The Sun. — London, England, 1810-05-08 00:00:00

1 tionA to 1);s- Maj , -!sty ht *Levee „Wav - fg.it _deeply • by the country; anctrarliled - ,in the - thiridi . of, any: With all due deference.to tli'e, - &oble 'Lora, .11e most, .completely diffeialrom him. He: did not- believe ' that thre exißtecl . -n'tepliiig of dissatisraaion in the -breast of a Mr.gte subj&t / bf the realm, whOse petition,, instead of being -presented.ta the King at thele'vee, was transmitted to the , Secretary State. He • hhd never, heard a complaint . on that point, nor did he believe that there existed the least cause for dis • satisfaelion.. - • ' - H.ORNEki thought, from the nature. of: the - question, conne6fed as it was with the right of the 'sohjeii to.petition, that-the Public must feel oblig . - • ea to big Hon. Friend fora bringing it forward. It - ' ha ll a - ten-fold importanckfronfthentanner in Which. it had been met. He thought the' coudurf of Mi nis!ers in-so -meeting - it most indecoffius.-' - The cumi.tances of the limes furnished no excuse for their condue..--If the poivers of his Majesty vt:ereso. much impaired asMiristers, for theif oven justification, ' _ had "represented .them. to be,=it would be' the duty - of that. House immediately toitivestigate.the subjea. But, happily; they knew that 'was not' the facl,..and he only mentiunvd what they had 'sail to mark the indecorons conoluEt . .Of his Majesty's - Ministers.— Such ,a. barrier between the subject and 'tbe.Throrte as had been-.olcQd between' the King.hnd the City of I))ridon..by the present-Government; - Thad not been.lhOught even in - the most despotic 'reigns. Alluding - to certain Petitions which had been lately - 'drawn. 4), be. ,thought he_saw in theMsOrnething more than -a. Petition intended. Though he de " fended • the, right. pf -petitioning„, he gave no encou ragement ra.such Petitions. • • -t• The House then divided, when the - numbers were 7— • . For-the :Motion - Against it .. - •Majwity against it yig -S6 DUKE OF BRUNSWICK, On re-entering - the G:ller), Mr, WIIITBItEAD was on his leg% opposing the Report of the.COrn mittee on his Majesty's.Mesgage respeaing sion'for the Duke of Brunswick. - Mr..TiEENEY, though be admitted, the propriety of making a provision for the 'Duke of *Brunswick, thought it ought to be paid from another fund, and wished to know what had .hedorne of the Admiralty. Proifs, as' also the amount of his Serene Highness's income, at present. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQ.UER was happy no difference of opinion existed aS to the: propriety or making a provision for that illustrious personage. He thought the tjuestions which had been - put to him would not have been asked had those by_ whom they were put been in the Howie_when',he brought the subjea, forward. The present income of. the Duke of Branswiek did not exceed 16,0001. The, pension was not to be placed ott the -fund from which it was 'proposed to pay it- as a permanent grant. , Mr. 1 3,- !NSONRY thought the sum proposed too large. The Duches4 of Brunswick - had 'lO,OOOl. per -annum, and now .t ,was proposed to grant to the DUke BrUnswick 70001, objeaed to it, thinking f7,p001. too much to be drawn from that fund. • • Mr. TI RaNEY again inqnired as to the Drcifs. Tile CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied. `After ~ : hich,the report was agreed to, and a Bill or dered accordingly. SUPPLY. Mr. LUSIUNGTON brought tip the Report of the Committee of Supply which was agreed to. On a 0100011 for the House resolving itself into a Comirn'ttee of Supply, • Mr. Hustussotst opposed'going into the Commit tee to vote the naval estiroa;es that night. PO Fri clay he had stated his wish to call for further doeu- Ments ; for which, however,--he did not move. It was titte; those docurnetif's were now on the table, but it was impossible. f`or him.ta look into them at 'that hour, in a-manner that would do justicel6 the Public. The object he had in view, it must be felt, was of gr,eat importance; not as. to. the feelings of a . party, but as it concerned the health, comfOrt, and safety of troops sent on foreign service, while at the same time; it involved a, questiob of public eco nomy. 1 - leshonld feel it tobe his duty to move for other f)apers; that the' queStion might , be' brought fairly 'before the Horse. - After 'all he could do, lie thought it would be necessary to move fair a Select Committee , 'to examine the whole of the documents, and repoit iliereoli to the House: The CHANCEL:LoII - of the Excti E Q.T/ E aF., , ,reed with his Hon.. Friend is to the importance of the .subjea. Hewould give all .the aid •he could, -and when he bad the intotniation he desired, it would- be for did House to decide on thernerits - ofsthe question., -The sobjellit, he beggfr - ,cl to inform the .Hon. Gentleman, had nevi: r been lust sight of, it was now in progress ; and some ships of lift line bad already been employed in thetranspott service. If . flie- Hon. Gentleman wished the . rote ler that service deferred, , he cer- . tainly would not ptess.t he subject; but if the Howie should be in favour of employing ships "of the line for transports, still he .believed-his Hon. Friend was awaie it was-t , ,eeessary'steli a vote shopitld pass lb : pay thedelit'sCoti-Ated . in the Transport service. IC he succeeded in convincing,% he thought he would not wish for any great deduction ftom the vote'; for pis own part, ' - was much shaken in his opinion that such 'a sytcr_l "would be less expensive than the pr4'.sent. He tho.- i i'ot there could be no objection to going into the Committee of Supply.. • • Mr. 'Husxissot<admitied, that as the , expenses were already to a great degree incurred, tbe'vote could not be omitted this yetr, After a few words from Mr. R.Ward, Mr. Rose, Sir C. Pole, Mr.' W. Smith. and Mr. Caleraft; the ,CoMmit tee was postponed to Wednesday. 7 : 1-1E . IRISI - I FLAX REGULATION SEED BILL. The Order of the Day being read for going' , jut° a Committee on this Bill, . Sir JOHN NEWPORT opposed it. -He said' this measure took' its rise fron - t the fameus Orders in Council. The difference's with Amierica having rendered it difiicult to. obtain' flax sued front' that country, there was a greaCsearcity Of that article in Ireland, aj - t,l it became necessary to endeavour tobb tain a supply of it from Eughnd." Insprg.9ois or 0;111111TESi6111.",r3 were Gent= from Ireland to this cr4itry to — find ilax seed, lit for _soWirtg ; they intcstigat,ld. all oil-mills of this country, and branded the' casks - of seed drat.. they thought f t for .that-rise, .With _the royal brand, which was intended tos•be a certificate to the bu)er, that it would, answer the purpose That he intended it - for ';but in ‘nine -cases out of ten, they, were . _deceived; and _ the present Bill went to indent, tiny the sellers against anions being. - brought against them, without . their unfortunate customers ltdd 'a written warranty. He (the Hon. Bart.) had a conversation - tyith one of - those ContrniSsioners;•Who told hitn. he thought. it was better that Ireland shbuld have half a trop-of flax than, none.: could this be .considered as an answer to the poor culta 7 -valor of the article, when he was led to believe, that, by the King's brand, he was free from im position. He could say further, that many had not a_ crop at.all, and. they and their familieS had 'been made objetls of charity.--He would not, at that late hour of - the night, enter further into the ques tion, 'but he thought• the Hon. Gentlemen on the opposite side, would feel at least the necessity of its committal being pO,..tponed. • MC. FOSTER contended that this Bill , was neces sary,.. .order to put an :end to the dreadful system of fraud acid perjury, which was at . present prat- tised-in Ireland,- upon this subject. A great num ber of actions had been brought, tand mere, 'he had no doubt, would be brought by the buyers of flax seed against the :tellers, and though no actual war ranty had been given respecting the seed, yet wit-. nesses were alwayS:found, who positively swore, that a warranty had been givon-, and Verdicts were given for the plaintiffs. The obje& of this Bill was to pro'- vide that no aelion -should be maintainable ex cept• where there. had been- a wzrratity in -writ ing, and the clause for that purpose had been issued verhatifn . frotn.the Statute ut Frauds. PONSONBY declared, that he could never, agree to such a measure as was then. proposed: The preanibleofhe-Bill set ow; that. no ; man could bring an anion against another for selling him an article in ferior in-quality to'what he had agreed for, without his having a written warranty. The Bill went to do away with that which he' never would cpnOnt to, the right of the-subject to bring in 'action. He would ask; why actions of this nature should be more liable to encourage perjury than any other t? He wished that an Hon. Gent. opposite him (the Attorney-General) would give his opinion of such a - .Bill ; it would. be that it was urronstitutional, that any class of men-should be d.eprived of the right Of applying to the laws of their country for redress, when aggrieved or imposed on. It was contended by the. Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Foster), that all the anions that had been brought, were supported `by perjury and fraud. How he could supporrthis_at%. gutiient, , he was, at a loss to know, when it was agreed on all sides, that the inspectors only contem plated-a half-crop, and the sowers were led to. be lieve, under the stamp of Goverment, they were purchasing that which would give a full crop. Under tbbse considerations, - he would oppose the Bill in every stage, more especially as he considered it 'as ,an ex post facie law. Mir. FOSTER -denied that it was intended that. this law should have a retrospective operation. - Sir CHARLES l; RICE complained much of - what the • oil merchants had suffered, The inspecto;s came to England, and tot4t upon themselves :to say, whether the seed would answer or not. Those they, bought it 'of never . considered,- or thought, that they would be called on. to guarantee that it should produce an extensive crop. He had docu= mews in his posession from Mr. M`Kenzie, an agent,. of an action h►ving been brought against. him from the failure of the produce of .some of this seed, where a verdict was given against him of ; the costs amounted to 701. The letters also mentioned,- .that juries and witnesses were pre— possessed against the English dealer. • Mr. A. BARING thotight the bill had a tebdency to oppression, which ought hot to be encouraged, and was of opinion, that it was like a proposition 'which had been made by - the Right lion. Gentle man (Mr. Foster) to cover Excise. Officers, which had been thrown out by that House. Mr. 1109 E said the rase of the owne.s of the flax-seed in' this country was a %wry hard one, •but he had Some, doubts as, to the remedy.' - The owners of the seed in this country- did not send it to Ireland of their own accord,; it was after much entreaty that they consented to dor it, because they were. making a very large profit upon Miele. They did, however, at last consent, but they. said they were not capable ofjudging whether the seed was fit for so - wing or not they had merely purchased, it for pressing.. To remove t his difficulty, Inspectors were sent over from Ireland, who examined the seed,' and affixed a mark- or brand to such as they thought 'fit for use ha Ireland.- The _sellers in this country thought that they had then no more responsibility, but sent the seed, so- selected and marked, over • to Ire land, to be sold I,V4hOut'any warranty on their parts. Notwithstanding this, a great number of, actions had 'been brought, and many of the sellers would be ex •posed to immense loss, if not to actual rein. 4 - • Mr. W. 'PoLE said • he would' only trouble- the • House with, a few words. The Right Hon. Gen tleman oppoiite_ to him. seemed 10 think this was in tended-as an ex postfab7o law; but that was not the case. The clause 1 - ight possibly bear that con struction, but he could assure the House that no such . intention . was entertained. He. did , not agree with- the worthy Baronet behind him; that this Rtli'vvas intended to afford relief to the persons who had suffpred,, but to prevent, perjurieS in future. It was thought that by making a war ranty necessary in every case, these frauds and per juries might be. prevented,' but certainly no idea was ever entertained of making the Bill retrospe6live. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that if the, Bill 'was meant to have a retrospedive operation be should have opposed it, Mr. BABINGTON oppoSed it ; and, said, he, was sorry.to hear_)here wa4 so much perjury in Ireland. Mr. FOSTEit: spoke again in explanation, and said, his whole. intention in proposing, the Bill was, to put an end to the system of perjury, whichAtiras so eager-. ly pursued-its that coi - 111 - y. Sir JOHNl';;;PyrniT 11101/Cd; " That the Bill should be comm i t t tea day -1-hree months," Strangers ,were ordered to withdraw ; but, on counjing• tile 'Members, there were only thirty-one. present, which not b,..ing syfficipnt to . form a douse, they adjourned at half past One o'Clock. . 'MAILS. ARRIVZD. , -1 Dublin, iyVaterford. Due—i Cadiz, t Lis. bon, i llublin, r Waterton!. 1' 1t ICI OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT TWELVE O'CLOCK. Consols - -70 Ai 1 1 . 1(ed.'Ann. - -69 U T S UN. 'SOLEM.QUIS•DICERE F4LSUM AUDEAT ? L D' 0 IV, TUESDAY, MAY 8, 1810. Letlers have been received from Holland .of the 3d inst. They are filled with ace.otmts of the ty rannical condu6l of the, French in enforcing BUoNA PARTE Decrees for the total extinaion of commerce. The Exchange at Rotterdam has been converted in to a stable for French cavalry. • We certainly were not 'absurd enough to suppose that the Opposition Writers would be .disposed to approve of any measure of the present Administra tion, whatever the merits of that measure might be; but we did think, after all they have said - about their good wishes'for the Spanish cause, after all the cen sures which they have thrown upon nUONAPARTR for hiS perfidy to the Spanish. Royal F3mily, that they would, in order to preserve the appearance of consistency at least have refrained frOm 'censuring an attempt ter liberate FERDINAND VII. Of the policy of such a measure—of the effeEt which .his presence must necessarily produce upon the contest in Spain,' no reasonable man could have a doubt., If then the ohjeet was desirable, was it praEticable ? Upon that point we have no other guide at present but the examination of M.,DE KOLLI, and he States• it to have been perfectly praclieable. He stales that 'FERDINAND might have been many hours upon his journey before he was missed. But it may be 'said that M. Ds KOLLI was too sanguine in his expectations. Possibly he might, but•surely it is but fair to suppose that he, who' had turned. all his•fa culties to the consideration of the subject, and who, had risked his ,life upon his-success, was quite as able to form a• judgment as those who merely form an opinion from the garbled report of the Moviteur. . When they ,talk, howeVer, of the utter impossibiLty of the plan succeeding, must .recal to their recolleCtion the ,escape of Sir SIDNEY SMITH from the Temple; an escape, at tended with difficulties infinitely 'greater than those 'Of FERDINAND from Vallancay. It. appears- then, upon the whole, that this object was most desirable, if it could .bp attaincci,—that there was certainly a considerable degree of risque in its accomplishment,' but that there was a rationDl chance of success.-• We're Minister, then, or were they not, justified in making the at tempt ? We would willingly subinit this question .to the determination of any rational and. impartial man in• the Empire. It must give the highest . satisfaetion to every friend to the British Constitution, and that is eery wise and good Man . in the United Kingdom, ,to find that even those. who are in geneial vehement agaihst the measures of GOvernment are open' and decisive in expressing their opposition' to those principles and designs which a certain unprincipled faction are evi.: dently labouring to bring forward, though the result would most probably be anarchy and ruin. The Lords GREY and GRENVILLE yesterday, in the House of Lords, took occasion, though tine subje& -ingnediately•before them was an intended Motion for inquiring into the State of the Nation, to deprecate those wicked attempts which are daily made by the Agents of a Faction who wish to mislead the Public, -and to bring .Parliament into contempt. Both of these noblemen, manifested ,a 'firm determination to sup i,ort the Privileges of Parliament, and, most empha tically declared, that it was impossible to foreseci ihe "fatal consequences which would ensue if those Pri ' vilegeA should ever be relinquished.. The same course was adopted by Sir ARTIE/A PIGOT last night in the I-louse of Commons. The Hon..Merfiber was not less.reiolute iii reprobating' the artifice's of the Faaion alluded to, and in representing, "in . , the most forcible Privilegesterms, the 'vital importance of the . . Privilees whichit is the aim of that Vatiion to de . stroy. We have reason' thgrefore to rejoice,.that the faridins deniagogUes alluded to, have gone to such extremities,, and by their attacks upon the funda mental - principles of the Constitution, h L ave induced the leaders of the former, who have a great stake in the country, a d who, howeVer they may be in fiuenced by political rivalry, have the essential iriterests; of the: Constitution irr view, to come forward,. at this ; important crisis to rally round it. The opinions of such characters, solemn ly delivered in Parliament,' must have due weight With all reflecting men, and must throw into insignificance and contempt the efforts of those who, from vanity, ambition, malevolence, and the most desperate views, are endeavouring to bring upon this country all the horrors that attended the revolution in'France. This conduct on the part of such distin ,'Ll'shed member:4 -)r society,. and (1: public spirit which has been just evinced by the ino-t respectable p . C-ssons in the City of London, to sup port .our good'old Constithtion agains- ail (Ito art:- fices . and plots of its enemies, must inspire confidence in the Empire at large. The pubEc spirit of theg-e ;t body of loyatcitizens who hive . come- forward, in opposition to the disgraceful violence and 1-1-li.F.cliiev bus arts of the Common Hall-politicians . andi,orat.ots,' is indeed a subject of pecUliar- exultation, and we must again express our hopes that so noble an ex ample of patriotism will be folloWed in every town and county throughout. the British .Empire. • The Right Hon. CHARLES YORKE this day took his seat at the Board as First Lord of the Admiralty. F. EDGECOMBE, Esq. is appointed his Private &ere .. tary. Bread remains at last week's-prices. 'We have received Paris Paperi, to the Ist, and Dutch to the,3d inst. ,Despondeney - continues to prevail in Holland, as the severity of the French agents equals their vigilance, in discovering and pro-, seething , what is deemed ail impolitic trade. 'pie other information contained in these Papers is nei ther important nor interesting. We beg to subMit .to the consideration of the violent opposers of the priVileges Of Parliament, ti,te following resolutions of the House of Commons, passed in- the good old times, ,the Jays of the'Revo lution, and of the Bill of Rights :- "- That to assert that the HouSe of Cornmbns i; not the only representation - of the Commons of Eng land tends to the subversion of the rights and privi leges of the House of Commons . , and the furlanien i tal Constitution of the Government of this country. " That to assert that the House of Com Mons have no- power of commitment, but of their ow,O Members; tends to the subversion of the Con' stitntionof the House of Commons. "That to print or publish any books or libels, re fleeting on the proceedings of the House of Com' mons, or any Members thereA, for or relating to ...hit service therein, is a high violation of .the tights •and privileges of the House of Commons." PORTSMOUTH, MAY 7...--Cagle in yesterday -the .Calista armed ship, HASMELL, Master, from the Downs, for Surinam. Sailed the trill, of Hull, FALCONER, for Ito de Janeiro. • j' Passed by the Brutus, for the West Indies. Dropt down to St. Helen's his Majesty's 0 1 P Rlicenix, with the outward-bound Indiamen, and 1 - will sail, it is expeeted, early to-morrow morning• i t Went out of harbour the . Ant schooner; and came in his Majesty's ship Osprey. j Arrived yesterday his Majesty's ship Pordargus from the Eastward ; also the Hopewell from the Westward, for London. ISailed ,yesterday his Majesty's ship Dapper on a cruize; and the hope, WALKER, and Scmarilan , KENNY, for. Sunderland., Arrived his Majesty's ship Hardy from a croize. . • - • 1 Old I>ON o Printed by It 1 C FIA RD BARR c; 4, Martlits•cwirt, Pow -street; and Published by WILLIAM AR MI GERSC RI PPS, Sotiih MOlton- street, Grosvenor St7t4OFFiCtip No. i 1 Stirand; where Aduertisetnents,. Ordia4 for the Paper, Letter; fol: the Editor, szc. (post-paid), mot . be addressed , We - have received, by a private ship, a lett* ° 1 which the following is an extract : " CORUNNA, APRIL I.—Gijon and Oviedo ar e - again in the hands. of the enemy, who is o;e r-run' ning the province of Asturias. The • French a te also continuing the siege of Astorga, but with very few troops.—The details from.the interior are fa' vourable," of Some dayisince„ as a boy, ten years of age, son - Mr. Whitehurst,.at Chisk, was' playing with a O r) in a room which a female servant was scowering, tb ° girl; not thinking the piece to be loaded, said, " ti f f at me." The boy did so, and killed her in an instant' Some of the -Life Guardsmen, While quietly walk' ing in the fields yesterday, at the bottom of Bake' street., were insulted ,by a mob, encouraged, doubt, by those miscreant orators, who are doing • every thing in their power to incense the peol" . against that force through whose assis.ance the Magistrates were lately enabled to frustra l ci the diabolical objeEls of Sir,FRANCIS BURDETT a ° his trait°, ous associates. BAD DOLLARS considerable number of per" .sons, principally females, are busily enraged in 1-3t tertug counterfeit dollars. They are retuarkaid well executed, .bat are'easily deteiled by I,veighnig e i 'being full three penny-weights lighter than go ° .ones. or A very rare and curious fish, called the Opao , King Fish was found on Sunday, 'cast ow the bcoc at Mundesley, Norfolk. It is that genus, whi ci` Linnaeus distinguishes by .the name of CllOO - oE l o°' and is said to be very common on the ( oast of 6 4 - u ; nee. Pennant, in his British Zoology. says, ti ) t r there have been 'only five instances of this.fish ben': in,our seas; four were caught in the North, and fifth at Brixham; Devonshire, in 1792. Ihttre were Four Prizes of Twenty Tkoll'-` e .Pounds each in the Last Lottery, •of Which ARDSON, 'GOODLUCK, and Co. sold Two. , The ROmans paid particular attention to the Q°".: 'dens of Fortune, and had no less than eight Tett); pies erected to her honour in their city. Tuilu Hostilius was the first who built her a Temple and from that circumttance, 'its easily, known wiled° her worship was first introduced amongst Romans. In England, although all ranks wors l4 .her, we know of no Temple ere6led to her h000t;',I unless, indeed, it be Cooper's Hall. In that ran' e place she will be-particularly worshipped on the_ A tli ' of Next Month :—the Lottery will be all drawn °n aiit day, aryl the ,gilts of the fair Goddess diOr i ; buted in profusion. Even the Sixteenth of it Tic ket in 4y gain 6000 i. ! ! ! 3itir GAAVEIIND, AY 6. Arrived,--the Earl Percy, S Story, M and the Harvey, •T' l °' Jlsr Patstone, for Montserrat: . fa' Sailed—the Pax, Harper, and Cornwall, Shawl, far ,r, maica; Friendship, Anderson, for Demerara ; ,Scllei r tot How, for St. Domingo; and the lane and Mary, Vi. 110;, Q„;ebec. , to VLr Ser ,- )N 1 1111. S~ ant kic Ed A Ar i t4l, !CC,.