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M A tt t ii,o,‘„P„Titc; 01. .; lAA !iri 7.-~~, . so much wished, as one general, struggle for thatireit tional good. Yet the argidrient of 'hie= Honourable, and Learned Friend, as applied ttothis system, was entirely presis*; tible—it was a pure and pe rfect chrysolite, totto terra atpd ro tundus—it was perfectly without flaw. It was However pripoti sible to convince, so tender and nervous webs thee: advocateeof corruption, it was impossibletto convince then, that any change however.minute or rentotelifould,be, effected.Wftlibuttentlanger ing the general systeinteSkich they c1ung,,,, 4 44* Stiehl listen to no compromise. Theiratudety and ale , here so lively, that though the eyes of Argus hatibeen clOgett one by one no thing cou ld close the eyes of einruirtien in, thilt House. Though the proposition itself iv4iviferfeellvtfateceptintifible,- yey•there was a necessity to maintain one ithStse or the strkeofievery other: Thus if in Edinburgh thirty-three Cinefieratory eent the Members to that House, it was recollected that at Bath a few Apothecaries exercised the scene pritilegs...' SLS what•coe you will; he witutil 'venture to say that. produce that,Otalouder note would be sounded, some , mill grosser instanr.e, Of cotrup don be produced in its justi fi cation. Ile hoped', nsiever, that his Luirned Friend, who hail brotight forward the Motion, would receive the support of some of his . ,Majesty's Alinisters: Soine of them were distinguished from their colleagues by being the pro fesse.d advocates of improvement—this liberal par t Ofthe adininis. tration —this part,.whichhe would call the feather of the adminis. tration, or rather the cork upon which it . swims in the mind of the coitutry, would, he hoped, support his Hon. Friend . upon this occasion. The adroinistration was composed of parts w r i nc i hich. he hardly knew how to 'describe * ' there was no greet pple or leading question of nationtil policy on which they were agreed. The most incongruous eleMents were mixed together. They might be compared to two slaves chained to the same oar--.to living and dead body joined together by some new !limn tins; arnple.ru In ntiorro.. , -to the double monster of Shakspeare ; . yet, by the aid of what his Honourable Colleague• had face tiously called his Majesty's Opposition, they contrived to struggle on. Ilecelled upon the Rhea lion. the Secretary ter Foreign Affa!re, who had always expressed hiniself favourable to the principlea of philosophy, which he truly said were the only wise regulator of human conduct—lie Called upon him, in behalf of the rights of the enlightened city of Edinburgh. The Hon. Baronet then proceetlot to urge upon Ministers the necessity of voting in favour of the motiun, if they would act in conformity with their repented professions of liberal and enlightened pr i nciples; -and suggested the probability, if such moderate and pertial refoions were constantly resisted, that the aletermination of the people to obtain a more comprehensive and effectual reform would becortie impatient and irresistible. Mr. K. DOUGLAS spoke a few words against the motion. Mr. C. PELHAM opposed it. Lord A. HAMILTON supported' the motion. Ile appealed to the Right lion. Gentleman opposite , whether it Was possible for him to 'maintain any semblance o f h liberal opinions, if he resisted a motion like the present, The only argument he had heard against the Motion. was, that it violated the articles of Union. Had not, he would ask, the sets of Boroughs been altered in Many instances and by various Modes since the Union ? Why this had been done in more than halt' of the whole number of• boroughs :in Scotland. Had not Rho the Union with' Ireland, maths since that period, a ► g reat change in the constitution "of that House. He deprecated. the principle that so long as a body of thirty-three -self-elected Corporator* could perpetuate itself, there should be no ftee. representation ,of Edinburgh. The Right Hon. Gentleman professed to be the friend of education, and when education was more gene. rally diffused, was this the beautiful system they intended to present to the enlightened people. If suet? was their intention, it would be more prudent, as well as more consistent, in them to desire that the people should retrograde. than that they should advance in intelligence.' TheNtible Lord set down after thank ing the House for the attention which they had paid to the obs nervations which he hail felt it his duty to make on an occasion `which, more than any' other in his multi, called on the House for its serious consideration. 'rite LORD A DVOCA'f E of SCOTLAND commenced by stating, that lie should not treat this es Is Scotch question, but Its a question affecting British interest,- and therefore altoge ther it British question. The Committee, he would observe,' -who sat upon this Bill had supported the proposition on whicli it was founded, and which he felt hlinself now conscientiously bound to support. The Noble Lord had moved last year for a return, which he expected would prove there bad been malver ration in the public business of Scotland. Now, in his opinion, it wart always wrong in principle to begin, in cases of mooted national rights, with the weaker vessel, more particularly when lie refiecti.tl on the means by which the national Union be tweet' the two countries had been effected. The consequence , of the legal rassure which had taken place lately was, that 'Edinburgh had been improving in resottrecs sill population tor the last few years beyond all former precedent. it was OrMtentiOdi tll4t the consequence of the present system ,WAS that those renting live pounds a.year in Edinburgh were shut 91•it 5 a0.1k...1115...1.414911 1 / 4 144tinstie l iallitotips. ow; jar env shirt altogether in England, Jralutul, anti Scodentt. Ihe better 'way would therthave been fur the Nubia Lord to have levelled his amuck generally swami* , the. state of tbe representation of the United Kingdom. If such were the tentleney of the Noble Lord's motion he should have no objection to meet:him on that subjedta provided, he brought it in ttlyat the broader principle applicable to a variety of other representations, but certainly he would not now sanction a motion which overlooked general Orinclidtie;. and mereirfor the bake of introducing a speculative system. of reform in it P4itict.ll:ir city, applied itself to time remedy of a specific alleged otiose, width' ought. on ',principle to fonts .rnerelpurettemin the class of allegial abitses.' For these reasons lie sitonhlnnorsia tiles motion. ?d r. Secretary CANNING observed, that oho grievance which the Noble Lord complaitieg;'Was not so much that the Bill sibiclite,hatblutroduced 411 divided, hsapplicable to the subject of Legislati on ) hut.thaethe mode of division had in sttaelt limo considered'objeCtionable. °lle - seemed to complain that it appeared there' was . collusion. in the manner of dividing the enactments with .reference to this object: • For his part he cOtild 'Beene 'soCh evidence , of colluvion wherein to found s() s+ritttfe andeectisationi He, confessed he could not see Whyliiialcahe, isolated as it was, should form the ground work , of a'imitioe:fer iParliaMentary Reform ,generally, for such to all intents and purposes it wait, though Coached in the wipe stamina terntiedan inquiry with 'respect to . the representation of thetlityof Edinburgh. Whatever might be his sentiments as welts propriety of a change in the .representation, he, it IS ,Plnstred,, NO been openly accused of having., advocated that Parliament tsry AefOrm watt not Linda any circumstances ne .ctsotary-1, Now he had. been . guided in that line of advocacy by timseriviction, that If the reform .meditated were carried into 'Wrt; or even attempted, it would entail on the country - mice input serious'. erila than those which it now experienced, frontAie.eperations of causes which were so often the subject of sleep legret with Others in that House. 'Nothing could be more fallirtnus . ; &Vaal were the idea of the lion. Mover, than at teMpting in found 'on this woe of, alleged abuse, precedent for .the';i i nttaltictiott. of Parliamentary •Iteterm _generally. So far "as, regarded' 'the Ideation of thee' National Union between the two , erandriestilas ,perfectly agreed with the Noble Lord In liCothrt ' eta.) ; Bp c,;rtitioly thought the weaker part, as it had been tiaid o tlie Uniiin, might' with great propriety, say, try the experiment of this sort of reform on yourselves hefore.you prelittitie to recommend . it to pia..,--( Hear y ourselves effect of the motion,:lf granted, would be to affirm that there was no popu lar election in Seotland', - tit least in the city Of Edinburgh. For OWnPart; lie could not but admit, that , it had been matter of general notoriety, that so far from Scottish influence having Conlinett itsel(beyoul the border, there were many instances in which the patriot spirit of that country, had ,shewn itself' by , assuming the representation of seVertil:Poroughs in this coon. try.—(A.;htugh.)-4. he were at liberty even to cast anew the representation of the country, he Abotild be of' opinion that the eoniniunion of representation would answer all the purposes necessary ; end.this he said, without fear of, being involved id ..asst thing like opposition to popUlar principle. As to the effect winch had been produced, it could not be doubted that had the suggestiotoi been legislatively adopted, it would have been much better for Scotland. MI were aware, at least, of the rapid ad. 'epees which that country had made as to every 'valuable im. provement of manufactures, science, end' art, since the union of the two countries. In fact there had been so great a diva. rity as to the introduction of Scotch Members into the Legisla ture of this country, for boroughs in England; that it could not be said the sovereignty had much influenced the returns ter Members of' Parliament as to the point of aseendimey. • The only exception, be believed, since the Union, to this remark, was the case of Mr. Fox, who had sat for the borough of Kirk wall, while lie was suspended from' Westminster. If the case were narrowly inquired into, it would appear that instead Of sieottand being afraid of any undue British influence in respect of tcopular elections in Scotland, the tact was, that Scotland had interest enough to fill its own boroughs, and even to fill occasionally the representation of certain Englioli boroughs.— al ear, and leughing.)—lf he were allowed to participate hi the feeling o ' many within those walls, he must say that he thought the motion would have been more fitly framed, if the Militia able :sod Learned Member had smoved that, amongst other sub. junta of Legislative liefonu, he should have moved that the principle of reform should, in the first instance, lie applied to . the borough of Calne.—(Louti cheers.)—Whilst cases of this well.known influence existed, it was singular to find the Hon. An d 1,„ r5)4 4, Member persisting in his motion for effecting the ref in of a Single Scotchrepreatintativ,e i . Whilst the Hon. and . fiehrnvit.Member objco4 t op the Smallness of the propon. .tion of electors for the city .91,p comprking 4S they did no more than thirty-three eleators, itio would only advise them to look at home as well as abroad, and endeavour to fled Oat if th e re was not as much to be done in the way of reform at home as there appeared to be in Scotland.---(Hear !)—IH fact, it was not at all a just view of the subject that the small ness of the number of persons confining the representation should decide as to the virtual representation of the general ~~~. body, for in some instances the smaller number comprised all the representable patt of the ; community—(Hear fact , were he to join issue with the Hon. and 'Learned Member who had brought forward thie'tnetion; he - should say that it.would be, perhaps, as well that his patriotic views should be'confined nearer home, as that Caine'itself should occupy some or, the Reformists' attention in the first instance.—(Hear 1)—In a word, his objection to the present motion consisted in this, that on the preeent occasion the Hon. anti Learned Member had en deavoured to set up a case for general reform upon a perticular case of alleged misrepresentation. There was no doubt that die principle, if carried into effect generally, was right, but.it was rather new to' he Constitution, that the electing popula tion should be always proportioned to the actual population of 'the plitee—(Hear !)—and for instances in corr oboration:of this opintotilte need hardly appeal to a variety of cas o es well knwn to nil who heard him. inally, he could never consent that '.any body in the State, qualified to send a representative to that House, should he disqualified merely because of: the paucity of its numbers, without its being substantively proved that the body, whether corporate or otherwise, had condutted itself in such a way as to render such an interference on the part of the Legislature a duty. For these reasons lie felt it necessary to give the prepoxition of the Hon. and Learned Member a de cided negative. Mr.•1101.111OUSE was surprised to find the Right lion. Gentleman had instituted a comparison betiveen the cape of tke borough of Caine and the representation of Edinburgh. Was it to be endtired that the City of Edinburgh should be repre- Sented through an elective' ranchise of 33 individuals. Ile was content to put it on the „broad principle 'so as to' meet at once the eloquent objections Orthe'RighillOn. Secretary. lie omit deny the inference attempted to he drawn that the metropolis of the north was properly and suitably represented. In truth it was well known, front the variety of petitions which from time to time were presented to that '.,House on the subject, that the Scotch,peeple were tar from, content with the state of their representation. It was a subject of regret with hint that the Bight lion. Secretary of State thenld, in consequence of the 'opinions which heihad uttered .in an early period of his politi. cal career, feel himself Wound to tiPPoie, f or the sake of con. siateney, every motion that should be made either partially or generally for reform in the representatiofi. He felt at least one, consolation, and that was, that the-question of Reform was daily gaining ground, .an l .he milt of 'opinion, that every Member of that HOLM who thought with -himself, .that this great country was not fairly represented to the Legislature, must be decidedly of opinion, that Edinburgh could not be fairly represented, when it-was well known to the p ublic and his Majesty's Ministers, that the elective franchise was confined in that metropolis to 33 Mr. A BERCItOMBY replied. The Home then divided, when there appeared. For Mr. Abercromby'a Motioa Against it - . - . Majority against the Motion - . SPRING GUNS. Mr. TENNYSON obtained leave to bring in a Bill to pros hibit the use of spring guns and man traps. WESTMINSTER ABBEY. Mr. IIUME moved that there be laid before the Ilouse copy of the Charter of Queen Elizabeth, conferring the A bisty on the Dean and Chapter. The Honourable Gentlema, ;.n sup port of his motion, stated the opinions generallrenntertaincd, that, the Dean and Chapters had appropriated to themselves the funds originally allocated to the support of Minor Canons, who were thereby deprived of their proper emoluments, and in con sequence ,their, remuneration depended on the door collections. Certain Kum of money having been regularly app ro p riated to •. ,• tho, Annoy Cumuli, all he wanted to know was time source from which thOso sums were derived, whether vested in land., houses, orotherWise secured. It was also stated that several sums had been lathy individuals, to, the Minor Canons, and i f so, there could be , ' no necessity tt exact Contributions front the public for a purpose already served. Ile hoped the House would aster. tam bow far that necessity did or did not exist. Mr. Secretary PEEL thought he might appeal to the readineits with which he acceded to the Hon. Member's former motion on the, subject of Westminster Abbey, in proof of his unwillingness to 'resist any thing like a fair demand. But in the present instance he c o uld not assent to so unreasonable a call as that which required the Dean and Chapter to produce evidence of their property. Such was plainly the purport of the Hon. Gentleman's motions, as they appeared in the notice which lie held in his hand. Ile called for a copy of the Grant , of 1697, which was made to the Choir, on condition that receiving the. benefits tabling from the exhibition of the monuments, they should keep them clean ; and also for an account of the allow. ances and ineonic received by the Alinor Canons, &c., and in whose possession were the lands arid houses, &c. Mr: HUME begged to say that that statement was not correct. Mr. secretary PEEL said it so stood on the only paper front which Its authentiehy could . be judged. , _ the paper from which the Right lion. Gentleman read the otos tion attributed to hint. lie admitted that he had no intention of withdrawing his other motions. Mr. Secretary PEEI. found that the copy which he held. im his hand was in perfect accordance with the manuscript notice In the book. When 'the Hon, Gentleman made his first motion he gave no intimation of withdrawing the others, and he had just. admitted as much himself, if' that 9ntitl be considered tiny an. thority. The rights of the Dean and Chapter of Westminster differed In nnrespect from those of other similar ecclesiastical 1 corporations. On is former occasion he awed that a retitle. ; tioo had been made from 2i. 3 d. to is. 3 d. in the price of tuliois.. ' 1110118, and this was touch more in favour of the publics than the arbitrary contributions which had been in use before. The Hem Member insisted that the public had alight to free admia t sion. If such were the fact, let the Hon. - Member himself enter and refut: payment, and if resisted, let him try the right elsewhere, but let hint not brink such a subject before the House. Pressed as they were with concerns of time utmost mo ment, how unfit for their consideration was the question whether the Dean and Chapter or the Minor Canons exacted greater al. lowances than they were by law entitled to claim ; or whether the revenues of the latter were vested in houses, lands, &c.- If the Minor Canons lead claims upon .the Dean and Chapter for funds unfairly appropriated, it was a question. to be ,settled somewhere else, and any interference in it was quite Inconsistent with the,dignity of, Pediment : on those grounds having given the Honourable Member so much before, it' he stood alone he WOW resist his motion in the present instance. Mr. HUME explained. He had been misquoted, because the flight lion. Gentleman hail not read from the proper p a p er.— That which the Clerks had •teken down expressed indeed the 'substance, but 'HAIM exert words of his motion. The SPEAKER. quid, that it ,was matter of courtesy but not, of strict right that notice of a motion sh o u ld be given. When given wrong, its effect was to 'mislead Members; and theh arose a question as to what perty was to blame. Hermon no partiettler allusion when lie said, that none gave more no tices of motions than the lion. Member, and therefore lie hoped he would take care to advertise the !louse of arty Instance of inaccuracy which might occur. Mr. HUME said:, that his reason for the present motion was that in one year 2,000!., and in another 1,51151. had been un fairly taken from the public. The Dean and Chapter said that there were no funds for the support of the Minor Canons; but he asserted that there were funds, which they had appropriated to their own use. He WWI willing to join issue with the Right lion. Gentleman, as to whether the House and the Dean and Chapter would golfer more in character with the public from letting so bad a system go on, or front interfering in order to its suppression. - Sir J. WROTTESLEY thought that if the exaction in ques tion had been an ancient practice, there might be some reason tbr neglecting to inquire into its legfility . ; but many lion. Members of that House knew it to be an infringement upon the rights of the public. He appealed to the Hon. Member for Somerset shire ; and he recollected himself when a boy ut Westminster School that a free passage front the Cloisters through Poet's Corner was always open to the public. It wax surely more consonant to die intention of the exhibition, that persons should be allowed to spend the whole of a rainy day in con templating• the brilliant points of their country's history, than that they should be confined to an uninstructive hour in the company of an impertinent and talkative verger.— It•was said, indeed, that the Abbey Was open twice a day for service ; but then it was only open at one door,. as he had himself seen on a Sunday evening , wh en the Church was crowded: The building was nearly , half 'a mile in circum ference, and there were five doors, which ought to be all open, a$ they were originally, else a stronger might not 'happen to find the proper entrance, and there was an obvious inconvenience in confining the public to a single one. The ma . - ney he considered to be the most unimportent part of the sub ject ; though it was disgraceful enough to those who enforced its payment. He highly eulogised the character of Dr. Vin.. cent, whose name authenticated the return of the Dean , and ChaMer, and he conceived that the spirit of that return could not have been in unison with his feelings,. Mr.'ll. GURNEY supported the motion. Mr. ASHURST argued thelegalityOf the fees from their antiquity. Before the Commonwealth they had been granted to; lidivuluals for life ; since the Restoration, they were held during pleasure ; and, in 17‘„)G or .1797, they. had . been granted to cerium gentlemen on condition, of keeping the ol 6dun ' entli clean;Fla bore the most unqualified testimony to the character ° t i f e t n il t 6 l e Dean b a t' h % l ' e c r:i t t a a ' b il l i e s te n r iti " gh a p n o ho doviments in the U n i vers i ty o f () s h a d. charity, who cont r ib ute d f rom hi s "private par se to 'Several en rur, i lo n u a r i a t ,ble and benevolent man tof inbounded Sir J. NEWPORT asserted that the shutting up of' the mo numents was contrary to ancient usage; and he was at a Inas to discover upon what principle such an innovation was introduced. The fees, tt was alleged, were divided among the minor canons ; . • 97, - 122 , hut they ought to be paid out of the income of those for whoni they did duty, and Who hatkappeoptiated to themselves the funds designed for the minor canons, and *filch Might be considered as their hard earnings. He evneplabied much of the matinee in which the return olthe Dean and Chapter was mmled'as highly disrespectful to the House. If aggrieved, they might petition for relief; but their return ought to confine itself to a statement of the simple fact. Let the house but observe the terms in which theirretum was couched. They were bound, they stated, in duty to their Founder, to guard themselves against all aggression or encroachment I On the part of whom ? Aggression or en. croachment on the part of the House of Commons. He hoped the House would not be induced to give up its privilege of enquiry, and that they would hold out against all aggression or encroachment on their privilege of protecting the public from unjust impoSitions, without driving them for redress into a Court Of Law, where the suit must be Su pp orted for t h e adverse p ar ty by fund's, the unfair abstraction of which constituted the ground of complaint. Mr. AV YN.N doubted much whether they possessed the right to interfere. The property of the Deiih and Chapter in the Abbey was absolute, with the exception of the times of service. Within his own memory only fld. was required for admission. The charge, lie regretted to say, was iiince raised.—(llear ! )-- Such a charge, he admitted was -in j udicious ; but he believed the Dean and Chapter had theright'tO act as they did. One point, however, was clear, that whether they had or had not the right, the House had n o ri g ht to interfere,, The case indeed would be different if the Dean and Chapter had applied to them for funds in order to the improvetnen t of dial. edifice. • It would Ithen be competent for the House to make in q uir y as to the public collections. But he by no means liked the House to institute an investigation, in which the Dean and Chapter might set their authoritrat defiance. Mr. BARING supported the motion. The. House then divided, and the numbers we - - hfi Noes M . 72 Majority against the Motion —lB e bglaid before the House to the Choir of West lii!lloetiadrethitt receg the benefits a return lllr. ofU A t p a ye n eon e pr x yl t oion,f7o ritev, e t here e the exhibition of the Monuments', they should keep a rti r fn i 4t g er fr in ara th theM clean. Mr. CARTER supported the motion. 111 r, Secretary PELL had no wish to resist any just demand. As the Dean and . Chapter alleged the condition, and sa id t h a t they had not kept them all clean, but that a part was kept in order at the public charge, he thought there was sonic ground for the House to make the proposed inquiry, declaring his intention to oppose the two other motions of the lion. Gentle man, he would yet draw a distinction and agree to this. He wished not to carry his vindication further than the subject me rited ; and with this feeling lie had no hesitation In expressing his regret that such it return had been made. It would be bet ter if the Dean and Chapter had made a simple return, con. tining their statement to the' factS required. Mr. HUME could not see how them could be any objection to the production a the document. The Dean and Chapter had given returns ) , and the lignite asked for explanation of those returns. Mr. W, SMITH said, tionie yearn ago persons passed through a part of the Abbey free. The increased demand for admission tone the Monuments was a novelty. Mr. Secretary CANNING Said,'a doubt had been suggested, namely, whether the grant was from the Crown, or trom the Dean and Chapter to some of their own Body. It was desirable, under that doubt, to pOstpone the motion until the real charac ter of' die grant could be ascertained. Mr. HUME said, he did not understand the objection. Mr. Secretary PEEL, in explanation, said, the first motion of the Hon. Gentleman was for a copy of the Charter, to the production 'of' which ' be had objected. The Hon, Gentleman then moved for a copy of the Grant of 1697, which was made an account of kecpiug the Monuments clean.. That Grant ,Wits understood to give the Dean and Chapter .power to levy% pay ments for keeping clean the Monuments. The Right Nom Gentleman found they had bean paid for that by the votes of the House, which relieved them from that. charge ; y therefore he thought the Hon. Gentleman had made out a case, provided the grant was from the Crown. He asked 'the Hon. Gentleman to postpone his motion until they could see whether it was a grant from the Crown. If it was a private grant, the House could not reasonably call for it. Mr. H UAI E %aid the public money was concerned, and if they gave up the right t o, enquire why the money was paid by the public, the motion was given up. Mr. DI&N MAN did not sec any ground to postpone the mo tion. The suppiailtion wax, that the I)ean and Chapter had made this grant to the Choir to keep the monuments clean. , lie could not admit that , Parliament had no ri ht to interfere, be cause parties might go to law. That argument would apply to all questions relating to Public Charities, and the House would .lip„ Mini were well executed'''''" that o f The House then divided — For the Motion - 37 ' Against it - 68 Majority against the Motion . _3l On our re-admission to the Gallery, Mr. HUME withdrew hire other motions, on die subject. He stated at the same time. his intention to take an early opportunity Of submitting. to. the House a question expressive of the opinion that House enter tMocdof the extraordinary CondUet of the Dean and Chapter. Mr. W. SM ITH postponed Mr. Brougham's motion on the subject of Slavery from the %Idiot' April to the 11th May. Lord PALMERSTON obtained leave, and brought in fill to amend the 62d of his bite . Majesty, relating to retired allowances to Quartermasters of Cavalry and Infantry, which was read the first time, and ordered to be read a second time on 'Monday. Lord J. RUSSELLpreposed going into Committee on the Bribery at Elections Bill, . for the purpose of filling up the blanks. The House accordingly went into Committee pro firma on the bill. The blanks having been filled up, it was reported and ordered to be taken:loo further consideration to. morrow seinnight. STEEL TRAPS. Mr. TENNYSON brought in a Bill to prohibit and declare unlawful the use of spring guns and men traps.—lieed the. first time, anti ordered to be read a second time on Thursday. Mr. HERMES brought in a Bill to enable persons to corn, pound for the assessed taxes for a longer period than the law et present allows; also a Bill to enable the President of the Board of Trade, to send and receive letters and packages free from the duty of postage; also a Bill to enable his Majesty , to grant additional salary to the President of the Board of Trade, and the same not to be considered as applying to a new Office. The other Orders of the flay were postponed, and the house adjourned at TWELvi o'CLocx. PEIMAG ES. COIIIIIITTEg OP PRIVILEGES, HOUSE OF LORDS, Arum 13. The Committee resolved that the Earl of DUNSAVEN had made out his claim to vote for Veers for Ireland. TJII (.7r AIiDN Eli PEERAGE. It was resolved that Man Hyde Oardner, the infant, had made out hiS claim to the title of Baron Gardner. . The late Peer of that title was Viscount, but, in.consequence of his having neglected to take out the patent, the barony only descends to his heirs. Li WWI IN I ELLIGENd t" ' 81"g 5 45* lr 1 • , I ;' f; in 'COURT Olf VignYIIENCH, APiatrsi 43. 1 1 4.. , IItETARICATION IN JUSTIFYING BAIL. Thomai RUAISCI was brought up in custody of one of the turnkeys of Nengste. 31r. Justice tiOLROYD- stated that the prisoner appeared before him yesterday, in the Bail Court, to justify bail in an action of debt for the sum of 1301. On examination by Mr. Comyn, in answer to a question whether he had taken the be. nefit of the Insolvent Act, he answered in the negative, and denied that he had been arrested during the last year ; and on persisting in the same answer he had been received as bail. lie was offered again immediately in another, action of debt, and Mr. Chitty having put to him the same questions, at first he returned the aame answers ; but on Mr. Chitty repeating the question's, and cautioning him that the contrary might be proved if he had not stated the truth, he then admitted that he had been arrested within the last twelve Months. Under these circumstances,' the Learned Judge stated that he hail ordered him to be committed to Newgate and brought up this day. The prisoner on being asked what he had to say, put in a petition 'stating that he was top confitsed by the questions of Counsel that he did not know what he was saying at the time, that he did not know how long it was since he had been arrested, as it was for a very trifling sum.t.and that he hail no intention of imposing in any may on the Court; he was a free holder of the county of Middlesex, and possessed of property to the amount of 5,0001.,.and concluded by praying the mercy of the Court. The LOIII) CHIEF JUSTICE-4f the Court could think there was any reason for believing that the conduct of the prioner arose from the confusion occasioned by his public examination, he would be immediately liberated. There was, however, nothing in his statement to lead the Court to .such ,a conclusion ; his conduct, oh the contrary, seemed to have been a wilful attempt to impose on the Court by the concealment of facts which it was material for him to have disclosed ; and it must therefore be considered as a most serious offence, and the,pri. aoner must. be made in 'example of, in order, if possible, to deter others who offer themselves as bail from misrepresenting their circumstances. The judgment of the Court is, that he be confined in Newgitte fotone month. EASE OF WILLIAM WAKEFIELD. William Wakefield having remained in Court, waiting the arrival of his bail, at two ..o'clock Alr. TINDAL applied that Mr., James Johnson might be permitted to justify for bail to the amount of 6001., and Mr. John Cuthbert for the sum of 1,500/. . • , The LORD CHIP! JUSTICE.-1 think there will be no ob jection to that, provided the prisoner eater into recognizance for 2,0001. , James Johnson, on examination by the ATTonwET-GE NE nat., stated himself to be a cabinet-maker and upholsterer, residing at No. 10, Paddington"-street, '3laryleboae, renting a house for 1131. per ann. The King's taxes were paid, and all the parochial taxes, except the trio last quarters, amounting to 3/., which were still due, as he was short of cash. Ile considered he was worth 5001. after all his debts were paid ; he had neither freehold property nor money in the funds, his property was in his books, and he did not owe above 401. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL-1 submit that on his own showing he is not tit to bedtime bail for 5001. We ought to have good security in such a case. Examined by Mr. TINDAL.--My stock on hand is worth about 2501. 1 hold my house for an unexpired term of 18 years ;. I gave 2001. for the lease, and have laid out about 501. on it. My house is partly furnished, and the furniture•may be worth from 1501. to 2001. I have good debts on my books to the amount of 3001. Mr. Justice BAYLEY.-:-I think a man who don't pay 31. for taxes two months after it is due, ought not to be admitted bail for 5001. . • The Loan CitiET JUSTICE—No, he won't do. Air. John Cuthbert, examined by the ATTORNEY.GENt naL.—He is at present residing in Grosvenor-square, but has a residence at Stonehouse; near Broadstairs; his property is chiefly 'in the hands of trustees for the payment of his mother's jointure and sisters' portions: But lie is possessed of a freehold farm in the Isle of 'l'hanet, now let for 700/. per annum ; and also of some chalk-works near Rochester, which he purchased, giving 2,000/. for them ;. only 1,0001: of the purchase-money is paid, the rest is, still due to the vender. Witness is now work ing the chalk-works, and theyy are of much more value than when they were purchased 'by him. The Loan Cstizr JUSTICE—I think his bail may be taken with the nognizaiicesl suppose to appear at Lancaster. The A vrottwEv-Gx.liFitAt—Y es, my Lord. Sir. Tiwrias. having,Stated that a most respectable gentle• man, residing et Macclesfield, had offered to become bail for the prisoner, an& wooll justify before a Magistrate of that county, The holm ClllEi< J trs i ict—Let the prisoner enter into With 48 . 11Oniii,neuee. • Thaprisolier waif then conducted out of Court. - On entering into Ri4 recognizanee, he described himself Of Reading, In the county of Berks. .(Vll*-40-tiflY - I',TfIatREADrUL FATE 0 861 , d. (From the..ooik, dated Wediresday i . The' heroic defenders of MiSSolOnghi have teased to live ! Reduced to 1,400 rhen,.who werey reduied to four o u nces of biscuit, they saw, till the 17th - February, the storm gathering. which was to swallo_ry them up; the Egyptians, directed • by Europeans, among whom there were unhappily some Frenchmen, having at that tine completed the -pontoons, by means of w hick they Were 'to cross the shallows to attack Aiissoloughi on the side of Nlavri Aliki, at which point there were no fortifications, because the lagoon defended the town on that side. On the 18th the enemy exa mined the ground, and the Turkish fleet having re-appeared at Procopanistos, at the . entrance of the Gulf of Missolonghi, there was every reason to expect an attempt .to storm. From that day every individual prepared himself for death ; and from the 19th to the '2lst of February all the Christiani., Celebrated their obsequies. The Bishop Joseph administered the sacrament to them, and_ the service for the dead having been recited, every one repaired to his post. From the 22d to the '2sth all was tranquil in the camp of Ibrahim, and the .enemy began in the night to place hispoutooni, Two hours after sun-rise the European engineers had succeeded in approaching within 100 . toitesof the town, and shouts announced the attack. . wolines of P ee ' T toons ending at the Same_ point joined, the cannon of the Christians began to roar, the firing of the musketry commenced, and at eleven o'clock, two pontoons having been destroyed, the barbarians retired in disorder. Acclamations and cries of joy announced 'to the inhabitants of Missolonghi the triumph of the Cross. , The 28th of Feb., Ibrahim, having united all his forces, made a seconal.attack, but without • success. On the 2d of March, in a third attack, the barbarians made themselve s masters or the head of the causeway, and fiom that mome n t, the pontoons having been united -at that point, the destruction.of the Christians, who had only 427 able to fight, was considered as inevitabl e ; yet no thought of surrender entered any bpdy mind, and no month pronounced the word capittt-,';' lation ; every one,seemed only to think of selling his- life dear. At length, on the Bth of March (20th of Marclfiteiv-ityle), tlie;,litst,hour of the Christiana sounded. At 10 o'clock the Tur ks had taken MissolOngiii by storm, the:Rie"P Joseph had beeu burnt by a slow fire, all the • men' hatl,been put to the sword, and the nunth r .r of corpse's' of drowned women and children choaked up the' lagoons." - • - Wean the Comltitntiimnel.) The following is the copy of the lettif by Demetrius, the, son of 'Marco Bottioris, from London, addressed to his trocli Nathis In Misso-- , longhi, and received during the agony, of tha t city, on the 20th-of February, ratory funeral service of- the garrison was bein g performed : w hilst the' Preps.' • . " Most venerable General and Uncle, most beloved Siemer Natbis, " In the midst of the dangers which surround you, peNlit me to implore your benediction on my head, and to offer yot, , _ the last kiss at peace, which I address to you. Prepared 51 you have been to deserve the palm , of martyrdom, by.elierlding your blood for the glory. of the Cross and of oar dear conatry. I experience but one regret, that of being Separated from yet; NVould to God that lwere near ou, to participate m the site combat in which you, as well as our dear brethren, have ro• solved to shed your blood ; but my youth keeps me afar o°l I will, like an eagle, the soldiers of Christ. • • * flak y,' me t h a t I rollart" ` la. double my e ff orts to gain as much instruction as possible, iel.; will fulfil what us impos e d u pon Me, and pointed out by takeiny flight to our dear country ; , glorious death of that father, who has bequeathed to Ina t honour of his FRENCH ru)ro" Arm!. it.-Five per A T c ts ' $471. 15c.—Three per Cents. 65f. 45c.—Bank Stock, 2 , 0 "71, -- f ., Itente de Naples, 74f. 40c.—Itoyal Spanish Loan. tine Loan, 7701.—Exchafige On.Londori one-month , - three months, 251. duthekititar,) TilE SIIANNON PEERAGE. The Earl of Shannon's claim to rote at the election of Irish Ttepresentatira Peers *us admitted. THE HE LISLE PEERAGE. ' The ATTORTIEY.GENEBAL appeared at the bar to oppose the claim. Lie said, that in consequence of instructions which he bad received from their Lordships, he had made inquiries into the nature of the present claim, and, as far as he could discover, it was entirely unfounded. The circumstances of the case are briefly as follows :—Sir John Selley Sid. ney claims the above tide as descended in the fethsle line from Lord Talbot. who, as is alleged, was entitled to a barony in fee, as descended in tire female line from Gerard Dc Lisle, who had been summoned to eight successive Parlia ments in the reigns of Edward 111. and Richard II.; but there was no evidence-on record of his having taken his seat in con. sequence of the Writs. No claim had been made to the title till the present, since the death of Gerard de Lisle; anti Lord Talbot was created Baron de Lisle of Kingston Lisle, by letters patent in the reign of Bdward VI. The Attorney-General admitted that a sitting in conse quence of a summons created a barony in fee; but it did not appear that Gerard De Lisle had taken his seat, and there was no instance of their Lordaltips having presumed a-sitting in consequence of a succession of summonses, unless the fact appeared on the rolls of Parliament. He contended " that by accepting the title by l e tt ers even if the, f act , o f his having taken his seat were clearly m bl arl ish e id c ; ilt ro i r n .point d o T f a l i a t t ) v o , t, the present claim could , not be este patent, precl u d e d himself from claiming the barony in fee ; and, ,consequently, all those who claim through him were pre. elpiled. The furtly.l hearing was adjourned to Thursday next- The claimatit I s married to Miss Vitzclarence. The Dukes of Clarence an t i S usse x were present, and seemed to t a k e a strong !ntertgit in it. SAVE lIEL i 1 IVi;Y."—' Over the door of an old lady, in a village in the Weald of Kent, ''who was: in the habit of practicing as midwife to her poorer neighbours, and who kept the post-office, was written as follows;—Ladies and Let ters safely delivered," COURT pF DELEGATES, APRIL 13. V. WILSON. ThiS was an appeal froth the Prerogative Court of Canter bury and it is"rentarkable that the wallas lastedupwerds of 50 years, having commenced in 1772. It was at ptesent in the state of a process in ineitern, and the proctor for the respondent applied to the Court, to pronounce the appellant in contempt. The Co u it'r directed the matter to stand over till next Court day, in order that he might if possible, communicate with the Other party. • •• 0141) BAILEY, THURSDAY, APRIL 13. The whole of the trials having been disposed of, the REcon, DER - , at two o'clock, proceeded to pass the awful sentence of death on the following 36 unhapped convicted individuals, John 4dward Goatly, William Wilson, 'Milli= Brown, John M`Nicholl, Joseph Long, John Eaden, Samuel Trives, John M 4 lntire, and Wm. Jones, far burglary. James Roberts, Muni Halckin, George Highborn, George Frederick Stanley, Thorhas Kingston, Mary Macarthy, Martha Plumb, Thomas Jobbins, James Fraser, Emma Farrow, Thos., Evans, Catherine Clark, .John Sullivan, Sarah Forward, Virtu. Gibbs, Thos. White, John Hockley, and Archd. Mitchie, for stealing in the dwelling house. James Arniitage ' for horse stealing. John Chick , Williarn Leach, and Peter Need, for highway, robbery. Thomas Gurney, John Smith, and Thomas Shaw, for sheep stealing. Henry Brackley, and Dennis Kelly, for returning from ransportation. Seven were sentenced to transportation for life; four for 14 years; and 81 to seven years: One for 13. months, 13 for six months, and a number of other prisoners for shorter periods, in the House of Correction' and hard labour. • Several were ordered to be confined in Newgate, and whipped in the gaol. The judgments on five were respited.—The Sessions then . adjourned. UNIVERSITY INTELLIGENCE. CaatnitiDGE, APRIL 13.-4 it a Congregation on Wednes day last the following Degrees were conferred t— ' Doctor in Divinity.—Rev. Miles Bland, St. John's College, rector of Lilley, Harts, and prebendary of Wells:(ComP4 Masters of Arts.—Charles Jeffreys, - Fellow of St. John's College ; Laurence Stephenson, Fellow of St. John's College ; Saniuel Worrell, St. John's College (compounder.); Charles R. Dicken, Corpus Christi College; 'William Russell, Fellow of Caius College ; Rev. John Chas. Williams, Catharine Hall. Bachelors of Arts.—Arthur Neate, Trinity College (com pounder); Henry Belmont Sims, Trinity College ; Ovien Lloyd, Trinity College ; • Henry Latham, St. John's College,: Thomas Chichester Hogg, St. John's College;, John Aleggo t ' Elwes, St. John's College (compounder); John Dunn, St. John's College; William Bird Frost, Clare Hall ; Henry John Branson, Otitis College; John Serjeant Alvis, Christ College; Edward Lindsell, Jesus College (compounder); Alfred Brocas, Emmanuel College. The Lord Bishop of Ely will hold an ordination in London on Trinity Sunday. The Lord Bishop of Lincoln' intends holding his next ordi nation in London on Trinity Sunday. We hear, that the Lord Bishop of Peterborough also intends holding an Ordination in his Cathedral Church on Trinity Sunday. On the 6th inst. the Rev. Francis Clerke, M.A. was in stituted, by the Bishop of Peterborough, to the rectory of Eydon, in the county of Northampton, vacant by the death of the Rev. Matthew Lamb; patron, the King. The Rev. Thomas Worsley, M.A. Fellow and Tutor of Downing College, has been instituted, by the Archbishop of York, to the rectory of Scawton, in the North Riding. The Rev. Richard Conington, B.C.L. has been empowered by dispensation to hold the rectory of Fislitoft with the Chapel of Ease in Boston, to the former of which he has been instituted on the presentation of Francis:Thirkill, Esq. The Rev. George Day, M.A. was on the 4th inst., licensed to the perpetual.curacy of Hemblington, Norfolk, on the nomi nation of the. Dean anti Chapter of Norwich. The Rev. Augutitus Dashwokl was, on the same day, in stituted to the rectory of Bi ntry w i t h t h e rectory o f Th eme l. thorpe annexed, Norfolk; patron, Sir Jacob Astley, Bart. FATAL FANATICISM. Yesterday evening, :tit I uquisition . Was takerl ag the London Hospital, .)tile-end-roast, before J. W. 110 1 1 14 Esq., the Coroner, on view of the remains of Joseph Dun •. an aged man, who put au.end to his existence while labonfwfr under the influence of strong fanatical feelings . The evidenc ft ' given on the occasion was as follows : üb. Eliza Harris examined-1 am a servant at the Swa n P lic house, iiwa.n-vard, Shoreditch ; the deceased came to: lodge at my Master's on Monday week; he came there 0 ? Tuesday, and towards morning became very restless. Abe°° twelve o'clock on Wednesday morning, I went up stair en : put the room' in order, and to make the beds ; deceased unfastened the door, by removing a 'chain from On my going into his apartment, he held up his, threat , which there was a wound, and desired me to look at did so; and he then told me , "that the devil had been %or him all night, and had cut •it .•" there' was at. the *Male, some broken glass in ,hishand.., Ile afterwards came dew stairs ; before he , he..pushed die bed from the Sig place; I saw a piecedid. o so f handkerchief. .My master asked tn: what he had been doing to the girl ; but he gave no ansvT o to this question : he afterwards , . however, told him thet., l i en devil had cut his throat. lie had a nail in his hand wi ut r, he came down ; -and in his bed-room I saw a pair ef ers, covered with .blood. He was removed into the 1 11 7 1 t. room, and a doctor was sent for ;- after „which he w as what to the Hospital. I never: heard hint say any morelthan.a D I thatchhve mentioned. He slept any himself, and I have no el irj ": t e committed the fatal act himself, and that he "%ad sane at tike time. The deceased was adv anced in yea" was, I bEieve, a dog-finder. • • he Sou ; Joseh Entto eamined...Ll am proprietor of t the de c eased was a x stranger to me, but was, . unilersrfDie weaver out of . emplayment. , The servan t c alled roe n his was coming down stairs; saw some blood . and- 0 0 4 dot room. I asked him what lie had been about; and he _ sa,, mo ot the devil had been busy with him. • T here ' Can bno but that he was the author of his own deskt/l• and Oaitv : that it The Coroner summed up the evidence, se t was evident that thc deceased had committed the .....d; himself, while labouring . u nder a fanatical delusion 0t1.62 171,1!_r, and he would therefore recOminend .the Jary to return " diet accordingly: '; • - • WO r e- The Jury coincided in this opinion,.'ind-i verd ic t aa to o corded " That the deceas ed committed suicide while In . of derangement,"