The Sun. — London, England, 1810-02-09 00:00:00

1 jeCt?----When the expedition was determined on in the beginning of June, I had afterwards various' meetings and conversations with Lord Castlereagh, relative to fhe state of the troops, and the means of assembling them ; after they were put itv':orarCh to. their several places of embarkation, and arrived there the end of Jurie and the beginning of July, they were put under the orders of the General Officers appointed for the expedition; a very large-prppor— , tion embarltd. ar- Portsmouth,_because theTwere catried by ship; of war lying there, and intetideCl to 'distra& the attention of the enemy, and leave them in suspense-as 'o7therobjet;l'srif the expedition, ; Were you. cotisultepi.opoti, the plan oldie expt . diT: tioti ?—I canoot ..further thatt-the times that I have mentioned ; I at. Ito tune baChitiy! COLDETWIIiCatiOII ;with the Admiralty Nal yon the genetal subjeEt of Waleheron, or themooe of execu., lion,: I had, with Lord ;Chatham and: the• Secretary. 'of State, conver%alions, retitive to ; the , troops and elnipment, and all sorts of things of that kind, and with .Lord Chatham individually perbapri .whether that amounts to consultation Lcatmot $437-. Was any detailed ,plan of the intended, operations submitted or communicated to you ?—I have no re colleaion of any detailed plan, any full plan sub mitted to me ; nothing regularly officially in, my si- • tuation of that nature; I knew, from • a variety of people, a great deal which was going on, but. no de tailed plan. Was your opinion asked.as to the ptaL9icubility of the attack on Antwerp, a n d th e p ro b a bl e resu l t o f the 'expedition, upon or after. the 22d of June 1— I remember• no opinion, nor could I exped any thing of that kind beim , tr asked alter the a r my was prepared ; I recoiled .nothing of the kind, , Do 'yen recollea aortsonsultation with 11;s Ma- Sesty's Ministers on .the.sUbjea - -of your answer to Lord Castlereaglo,--No, none. . Were you cons u lt e d .w ith a b or t the app(Atment _cif the Commander iu:Chief of the,kted forces ?—f do not recolleciobeing absolptelYeconsulted, by Minis ters, but I. thought it a very proper one; I knew. of , it.- . Explain lorthe Committee whether the:operation_ npon ivothich. , you. were consulted upon the. ?,ith .of March was the same operation that_was subievientiy carried into effe...t, or:do you consider it - Ac , iitc#,Oly, distinct operation ?,-7—Perlealy. distinct., - Was that operation, upon which you wer(> .coi;- I'!ed upon the 24. th of March, laid. aside• in conic- - quenre of the state of the. : arnay mot admitting at that moment of a force of 1.6',00.0.tuen. 'being aPpliO m that'service suppose:that was,a principal reg Aim, but I do not know what other. reasons.tbere:iiiiii:it be ; I have no doubt that was-,a principal reason, In point of fact, at-that time. the state ofithe army did not admit of 1-6,000 men being: employed.., on-that service.?—That _was..what. Istatvd.,l appre- • !tend, at the time. Was the basis of the army, employed in the late expedition to the Scheldt, 'the ardipzwhich returned after serving with Sit - John - Moore in Spain ?—That would be rnore,;carrv.4.ll3l, known. from, looking at the ,composit,on of ;)tilie force that went to the Scheldt; the names 4,the.regitnents.;, ttltink, on recolle6tim, that it was. ed'9 he eireHt . i . on tipon . which that. opinion . was given? That the papers explain, I should Cienlly ; the subject was the Sarnei Were 4 thb:Of)inions given by other officers who Pad been applied.t6' by you, collected by'you ; and transmitted through you o. • "Caiilereagh ? They, were, at .the same time with my own. What vas the opinion given by ybu in conse 7 quence of the slight observation you_ had been en abled to make,_ while, in command at Antwerp, of the probable state of defence of that fortress ?—I was enabled. to say, that the citadel Was a very consider 7" able - One certainly, and would require a siege of sOrne duration, 'probably, to take 'it. The town `was '111:- rounded by very high Wall ramparts, there wa i n. : very deep ditch, great.old mounds of earth;a4l6oer circumstances I do not know, I believe' thiit what is called a demi-rebufernent ; in short, a place that could not be,eAtered without a reguiar siege unless it was surrendered, - if there Was h Suffi cient number•otMen hi it; 'it has sastained,several: , sieges, ' and . has 'been giVen up Without . 6" siege, , but then it, was, always when the country ; was possessed by the enemy, and then it must fall of, course. Hay 6 not many Places nlore consideralle in point of defence than yOu at that time stated Antwerp to be, been surrendered on bombardment in 'copse- " quence of an, army appearing_before it with ado., , quate means, without a regUlar siege ?---Many places haVe bee n surrendered certainly of,that de scription,: and under thoe circumstances. In the case of Copenhagen, was not.t hat reduced . •without a regular siege i—lt W , 15 regular siege, apprehend,, as far . as it went ) there were all the-ce remonies of a regular siege, yarOels and batteries I. apprehend, but am not , stqciently.inforniud upon the subjee4 ; .lapprehend was atta4trd in a regular manner . for a certain 'ti me; t h e 'town was not carried, by assault, and I: do not - know that breaches were, made; the siege was a - regular one I apprehend. Is Copenhagen a more formidable place inpoint defence; than ,you considered Antwerp to be other,circumstances.suppoSed so be the same, I only judge from a,plan ; I never saw Cppen hageo, I should judge it to be a more defensible place ; a great nor tiott. of : it is covered., with N . valer, and is not to.be . approached. , - Were there at . .the , time you were in the com mand any out-workg to Antwerp, .to• prevent .an army from taking its position as near as it might find convenient to the place ?—I have mentioned that,l was not.enabled to know it completely,; ,but I do not believe 'there were any advanced forts or redombts; or works' of that nature towards, the land. • What was the popnlation of Antwerp ;' was it not fron' sixty to eighty thoUsandinhatitants?= I knoW nothing about the population ; it is a. very large old city; the hOu , ,es are very largein general; 'there is a great deal of vacant space within, which lies be tween the andel and the town 'is of very great t tc,ult, one of the Ltrgest towns in Flanders. Spelidt)g generally, what amount of garrison vtould it require to put Antwerp into a 61;1y:tent si sin of defence,, incuding both town and citadel? suppose not less than ten thouszind men Could he Fatiesi ii garrison for a town-cif that,lsind ; ,but more w.ruld be better; -if it 1, - vas. to be attacked, aad to be Was it riot- -a consiclerab' t e • t.inw : after the retnrn of that army, the army being !disembarked at differ,.. ent ports,: at?cl theTegimenk being very much' together in the transports before any effedtual means could be takeni for 4 . e4tting that artuyfor service ? it certainly was. . Did not w very, considerable -propottion of. the force afterwards employed in the Scheldt. arise from drafts from the Militia which were incorporated,, into those regiments ?=Not only into' those,regi ments,- but into all the regiments [,apprehend that - embarked ; I do not, know ,the _exact number,: but no doubt there must have been a considerable - number. • • Dojou recollea having repeatedly written,. at Lord Castlereagb's instance, or directed the Adju tant,General to write circular letters -to all the re; giments to accelerate the refi , tment.of the army,. and to desire to know the earliegt day at which the regi ments could be completed for. service ?--This' was repeatedly done.._ Do you reeulle& that ,some regiments in the Southern Distrias had not compleled their equip ments so late Bs towards the end of June ?-1 can- not recolleet. particular regiments, but _I: bav,e 130 doubt that was the, case; I am sure it was the case. You have stated to the Committee,. that. on .:the of Ma,ylou•made 4 ruturn -to the Secrztarra State, of the - corps ,of 25,Q00, infa t nr Tanc i., , 000 cavalry; do you speak of ti;c off - calves as-thPy then stood upon the poothlyronro, , , o,r 81:40:1 . to ,de scribe that corps as ha in been then repoltedcom ! , piete and .fit for service The ,nnothy;:s wer., collet - led from 'the Adjutant General -from last returns, and they stood on the return3,.as Would the effeaives• on the monthly returns`dis tinguish whether they were, equipped and fit for set- vice ?—They certainly were not from, the •monthly returns, but from the latest : returns, which were probably later. Dp those returns distinguish whether.they were effeetive, or - whether . they were e . quipped , and,„fit for, service ?,--4 cannot say, this goes to nutni?efs feete r i lv ; here is a return of, the Southern Distri6t.on the 7 - 1 h of May, of a great number of the regirnews; skewing the deficiejicies of-.those regiments, which Is of the nature alluded to ; . here is the deficiency of, accoutrements, , and, arms, on the 7th - May, transmitted .by Sir John Hope, of ten hat,. talions in that di,tricl, which is a specimtn of the Otheis. You have stated that you. delivered in a.. written. Qpillion to.. Lord Castlereagh; did you receive in •W•riting a.ry comment on or any litterin consequence ot it, from Lord Casilereaglin,--.1. do not recoliea receiving any. Had you any conference or ~conversation:with Lord. Castlereagh, or any other of. his 'Majesty's iinistvrs, on _the' subject. of that . opinion ?,-,1 dq trot recollea any formal conversation ; I very:,pro, bahly, .had with - Lord Castlereagh, .but ,riever had any . jOrmal way, of explaining or going deeper into it, or any thing ot that s:)r, ttat I recoJlea, ,had any Kon v ers4i Verengli in the natureof debate or discussion-Of that opinion"?—n, I had not. • . •. Had not Lord Castlerca';h iroin time-to time con versations \A it. t you with ..re i spea to the olyt;ual . kotis - th Scheldt' subs , Jquentli to receiving your re r , 1 ' port ot - the 3d of June ? , --Certainly, upon some defended, then it would require a . —I uo not recoiled. the particulars o' any such points; but•l do not recollect any formal converse- 'to attack it, 'of , course, in proportion. very great , army , . on. communication. Lion or exPla ' nof thae.a6sw er or re p o rt that I-I W as riot it reasona bl e ,to presume that aj t t i hon r ah, ! Is i it in the course of the serviee to discuSs mi- the responsibility of the officer employeih insefprrymicael,ioo: to d n i , :t e - 6 t vi lla h t. i :e e l: n o: , gave ; certaia there were const an tly conversations- , t h e c i ta d e l m i g h t not be got possession of, .1 , e , ., I . y o i nute y with you the plan of operations upon 'Which riS s ar 6 y ie to g° Co in ):: • of some kind o_ other_ relative to the state of equip- : of Antwerp might be forced to surrender . i 2,,,d . ; i o:d ce e s r s ment of the troops; that , --iiiAs the general subject - ' not see drat I can. answer th wouic al squts.tiQn eirttri ........! , d re u s c t t V i iiith l. be an eas o cannot sad lam so young in command . ,,,,, as appear to him more than the policy of- the object; that was none ' it is a 'matter of opinion, and I have not it, ; 'that _Officer taking such measures of my concern. • i ----Did-did rtot-yon - recollect-having-had ..cCitarnunicas__,.... .. kre y_ou of opipien. that_ik , knowledge of all circumstances to answer it. 1 Al d magazines tious with Lord Chatham and Lord Castlereagh ,i,ration for the .43.netny to-hare col.e-e i I ,at have not had - a" great file-11Y pepUriUnities of respecting the expedition, andpartieulafli respett- suffkierit to' Iraie : stibsisted - the inbabi!a s 'lts and the baying these points dlScuised ; I,k isci4sry noTtlit,tl, to': -.--It Mill - I- --communi tug the defences of: Antwerp ?--4 cannot think that . garrison- ot so large a town as Ismt-wrrp-r.,, I ~ , I could ;have- any cousidexablecconversatiort re a. possible fur me to say bow : ' [ -thitt skfitsr-1 , ; but think m i servlce of that kind ; unclfiutOrAy, the detail is left !- in tiatt_defences of Antwerp, for,,, I ••never saw a,. • from its situation and the "size of if, that it i w i , l o . u hi with . h 0 Le. . --011 Pnanxier;4A t o is res.i.4onsible for ji,, , ancl , ;• plan of, it ir *I do not Tecollea havingl.kplan•of Ant- , have required a very greatTfdict: 1 haveo ,,,T ilu ct t i o t e is7c t take cleargee.r.,, ~, communicatiorand 7,4 ,'• wet') siieWn me• ;•11ave been. there -myself, and as., „communication with idle countrjil wi . ) . A iat was ~ w inormat ion- thatenlected,• i a , :d ought 4 'far as:lA:new I- might.mention, but,it must be•a verY , , , bpen, tif,h,Ottyse provisions' Must c0rner,71 1 :::: ,. .r i a 1 ;e: : .7 0 ;) , ... ; course to 1)2 giVel. , l+4„hi xa.). , ;common conversation that. ' passed , on 'the .stkb.ieot ;-.- gpbAkiligltirientll}•;wi - rat fyrCe de ye,..11...f.„1,1_9,. ,lirit&il,,ii '- t‘'. as- iller, cMqttiAif telf-,ki y 66, as . bei ' d • . pg. itl,., y ,there Was 00thing;Nrittetl,i- nothing for,ruelo judge be, necessary, to cut off all comtnutitcallob In Lne ~ on the 2 , 2 ( 1 - 0 1,4 nei 4 ell ‘,.OLi `arid .. .; from but:mere conversation..- -.: , : must de- lir Castle' f - -. - j, - . ! ' 'l '• ' .manner stated in the last question ?—'''list : 4 clagli,. j(Oxt. . It' a slat '_•, ti-t it- i - ithout the aodTfi - e -- 'NC -. — ll 4 - ' ''' • " 4 "Ils- °"3 4 Did - not _Lord Chatham :and Lord a , itlereagit pend upon 411 e, stfengt h f of 'the eneiny w, , _ , ! aof %dila - -- b - e,.. l . iito d ~t •., 1 t 1 , welyr y r , t ' ' liose 'within 'the Weeks :' A • -srmt-11 , .. .e barked at communicate with. you on the, subjed of Antwerp, walls titnre . than t . .... , s .. . ct ~ „that time i--, , ,a my'tn- the , n ff e ?byre great-r part lap v - 1e ' ' 'rf Li — : ' the - Pe . on •theiground :of your baving;beaen 'Conunancler of force might do it if there wa • , to ' .elte but beT 1 , ,; ,Ay y ;vas; but y:were then In see2rate ..thift tortressabout the years 1793' and • 1- 794., 'with ra eountry,.but if there -was•an enemy's arttaip• . cantonment's, di,, p ;ms ::.: (l6 Yertheurnitry, attd . it te-: iviet.v of obtaining your general-opinion and know- • county from from the situation it, and its , con i - i t a i lu i tn a - , qUirert'alClittsiderable time JO., asseinble th:lit'ol4elger' ledge . of ;the state of the works at the time you were 'cation with the Scheldt, 'I liver •:of thet•hreat i, t n i (1. .1, yyur cquid , say they 'were.prepatt d an& teady for ein-.3- ; Commander ?-L!--Theeart`ny was . encamped neat'Ant- ; Magnitude-(4 depends •totallyinpon tl ‘.tore of I barkit'tio ;' 1- toe) , ‘ere in an eaeCtv6-Stat f o r gel'' . - '0 werp, and I was very considerably indi , pes.2d; and `enemy in the' conrittyyli if the ewer y of , , , , .. it . had sten as far •e s , i.. - -,-; •••-0114:, . • ~} .• e tic an It.eo ; CU !,.. - .. - 5 , • But if the Duke''of TOrk . desired rue. tq go to At ,t Werp, thousand'meir in the -coin - 10 - y, itS•upeuse , . , an bc ..ai i - my t , , •. ~ :- ..0 .; , you had had directions to put those trOops which' was in the rear.of the army at this time, as four times that size,Wouldboteesbryl.to. . eget i , :into eantontr!entinife ar e r the places 'Ot•entbarkation, .a sick- quarter,. and to take the command: I was' and to cut otf . ther commtinieation ut ..the: saa e ni'ght ot: nitglr!t . not that have been done 46 that there about seven or eight days; during chat tune I' time. '• •' ' ' - . ~..-• • .. - ' : the , *At -! ' sailed ~ 'July, , yAt ~ irto . b 'ti . fiof ' N with Lord_ Cris- _ cerv i„ , f . • ,by 'the rs, looked about as !much 'as -I could, but it was very i Had yOu ever any conversation= .., • A ') nut ; toe- troops scould. not have bin • 1 tile: 'however, I had -a •gettepl . idea of Ant-...1'; tkrea,_ gt) on 'the 'sObjeti:-of- vaking Antweip oY ••a . cell-e'en:4 - arTartsoool.llil by the Actof July, and 'll ..an " ex Jedition would „,- tie „-i , tg , if the _-••, - ~ . ever ['d a r e sAy 1 cornmunicat!d . that to ' coup de main i'--4 do not thik 3 1 _ ,) a, il,orce einbarkl,d at Portsmouth.. that kind; 1 T he ,• . .. Lord Castlereagh and Lord Chatham, eery riatu- have; been fitted out upon an expeCtattOn of luesnuo dies nest relate to the. period from rally. , Lord Castle ~ . . ) , ut, sunposine• pre loss in- Had not Lord Castlereagh, both . ; with and , with- ! versation.withLor , ~ • .st ructt ons t' • had ' 4 • ° llad you everauy q)rt , ,o, )•MI been i givcrt,',lo exi , edite - the out , Lord Cliithain, communications with you on " - reaelt on the - subject of , baking Atitwerp by a ti c:su,O,cn ;ern h ar i„ t i csi , ot the trio :s as.soun as. possibie, migbt , the subject of the difficulties of ascending the tic main ? , ---It is inipossiblelbr me tcotecollea 'ianigs.,.i 'nottlaey have been put :into such can toitments !as.to ! ' Scheldt, and the difficnities , the army -might• meet -, , of tlrat.kind ;it is 'very possible. Irmight, that' the have embarked by the I st'of July ?•--The Whole of ' with in its ulterior operations against AntWerp?-- :i!course of our conveisation a coup de main might "be —the troops were e.intearked between the ~ i ill of 'June •'. l ' I cannot recollect- particulars ; bit :I have no doubt ! nierrtib6ed,lfutinOserions-converegtion of that-kind, and ;the 9th ,Of jury. ' - • we had many such communicetions, from the in- ! ; and of the feasibility of it. • - . ikas not ,the,Whole of il iii • - - . ~t..art- n r pat motion 1, 1 , h , i , tereourse that' Was going on - bettveen Lord' Oastle- In' puibt of-''lad, 'did Lord Castlereagh ever, stale _t., uC :Veen t .4111 and ttie..4Bo, l `..in_e u i y ?___l , houi d reagh and myself,- and whirl? was always on a very to you: the probability of success it) the event. of a , think so; excepte-Hiose .thaL were very net - ir die friendly footing. • - • - .-' ! tacking Antwerp by a' coup de main ?—I do not . re-. Places...9f _; rn b 1 4, 1 4 1 ,... : ta i,..but,.,the whoe for'ce .of :'. NYas not Lord - Castiereagifin the habit saki - 16st of collets it ' •. : _ :.-: :• , - 37,31 25 , , besides artillery and cither fei-ee of that kind, daily communication with you, and of di:,closing, t Did , Lard Castlereagh state to you the general: . .tu .' ' - • were embarked-he • 'deff.the 24'1 "of. J arid'' : .. . ~ _..,.. ~. , 1 une tat: it the Most _Confi:lential --and unre.serve.L.inahner views he. had of the manner , in which that expect . .9,11).0f Ji_dy. -.. ~ .. . ' • • enemy ' - rl- W 1 Et re. military'Oper,itiOns lvfilch were in content ( ion ‘ 4. 's to he condutied -.against , the .- - ~, - —ou d s not.t heieniovingtheregi ments fr om th e i r ,•-• lion ?---Lord Castlereagh 'I think vf iW very inch on- cannot" say ; these:are. all accidental conversations lit. , qua.rters_. beforeilleir e49ipinents.'w completed"' ',reserved to me as. rime!) as I could poskihly look fur such' passed, but I -cannot reeollea , these_ sort_: have , retarded, instea&Of - •aede letat;d their ,go as art individual certainly. - . •-great deal ,of' 'most i . sti . , 1 ,, i( . e.. ~• - things : I dare •say:ho , stated :a mi, 0, „sir , f ,—,-- It , ct. rt 1 pa - ' tun y - won .a -.and. the • Did -the opinion, delivered- in writing by you to r •:tl,iug, but Ido nor .recollea -the . troops - ' -r- ' r e " .thingi that , oceurred to'him, - , - Lord .Castlereagh, ever 'beCome.'matter of - discussion 'detail:of - them, Or.tv bat they - were.. -•.-- .• , _ _' . did', .because they. could tii) s t li ave - got through the. ) between you and Lord Chatham ?-•=-No, I 'catitiot ; Do you consider yourSelfal'having been, consul ted. cooptry ; there Was:net 'quarters tor, them, there.`.' say particillarly ; IdO nOt•thinleit hada formal diS= as a military man upon. plan and 2executiou ot-: ' were a gt\-..at'nprribq.,Of, tfqops- following etch oilier .: • cession ; I &are 'say man'v- of the, points might, to , a i the late expedition:to-the Scheldt i-4 think I was- ,throug,,,h,.ths'same route;.„-they I, vefe s- oblii -, td to take, i certain' degree; but *as an opinion, it never cane un- - consulted :viii.m -LordCastidteagh, wroteitEtatflet ter to a Certain rime- befere the =. be a.ssenibled.so tile der disetasSion. - .: ' - • - me to whicii , l gave an , answerl att.ct;lido.‘bot :know .-. p „m t , ,, yr .enlbarkaiion '; that .s.-1 (I , e I apprehemi ' . Were you'eVer'asked- ter ifevise that opinion i . or ' that I was what yow call iegularlyeeonstr .„ _ Ited.-.gt - an-Yr' i• • t - -' s '9'l in ;Nitta.- a 1:1J utter ii4.,,4,15 po , sible,..frOM the. tube. -• called upon ' for a 'further 'opinion ?..4-I icier' ' was.- i other time further than cOme..rsatiun: .: _ .• _ - :I' of lltelk t eing 'plain-motion, and their belt tit in ' i asked to.' remise that opinion, Or .called upon for ano- : -Ts it nut customary . to consult you as. Commander MOLIOLI 'l.\'l.i ill cOnseq.l.lenee' df 'ilie ,; titne of em- .' 'nion of the'iarneilature ; that was'a , regular Opinion in Chief upon theappointtnent of officers _to corn,. . , harkation tieing fixed, and beta eel, the 24th of , I was requird'to give. , , -- mand detached expeditions ?;--It certainly.is: 7 Juni and • th6 , 9th of Atli,. tl-ey arriy -1 - 11 I Was ihe' Operation that gins afterwards attempt- I- Were - -' ' - ,itict.• _ ._ . , . , (... .., cces.ve, at .. . ._ .-e . you - t- , Vbr `ccinso, _•upon the - appointtpent the places,-ofeinbarkation; did W‘tre 'all ernharkd. of. Lord Chathin ta tilat con - it - nand ?HI . Was con Tilt- ; 45 44 1 3-not-4411 7 -atmest-ciertions_ ni the-Govern, ed in a certain degree ; 1-4-new b2fori.; he was ap- went and of all the tiepartments,'employ-ed "to pre-, pointed ; 1 knew lap was,-aneant_ to be appointed,,! pare that army „for.Krvice ; and to embark- if on the Cut it was not my choice_;, I_ f oods not a,,ked .as. a .earliest day:, possible ?•,--kihntK ti)ex,certairkl: w,. choice, nor did I ex-octet that,.•nor could I; at th e 1 - and under- ail circuinstances,. 1 do.not beliet' y e suC ere ht.." same time:, as I mentioned bet - ore, I thought it a most great exertions ever were made before with respeft, 1 , proper choice atthe time, to that point, the, equipment, and the etht ix kl it ro o. :,-, Dii . you knoW whether: Lord Chatham ever corn- -Did you give it as, your. opinion to. Lord ;Cas-4 manded any expedition,. or any force before out of. tlereagh, that_ it was Or' adicable to make art' at-' A this kingdom ?•-LA. do -. not recollect •th e .extent o f. tack on A r nwCrß.'4...r.!4e-Seheldt ?--, I mentioned it . Lord Chathain's services. •1 was myself with him in g enera lly as a combined operation of land and sea, ertmP ete e n l I that; kind was to, to give a peculiar Holland, and I know he served in the.American‘war, and therefore I was not Ido not- know the particulars of his services„ but , detail of. bbw an undertaking , thole Circumstances occurred to my knowledge. - •be condoled, because I was not master of, the. cir- r 'Do . - . . p,roiabi l lity, of Antwerp beingaaketi.by.a Caup-cO. r:11,,,,,'?,ri e .. 7l,g , tou:4.thilik not.. ' - served 'yo in a i-l k o ri lTa w nd i , n- a w nd 4at what s e itlu r it a i rik l L he l;cl ha elil d l a n tli t ri h m e - 7 -u ri sns ' l d a Y ile ° e u s..- g . 'l ' v it as- your Opinion that there was . , t bat country, tha : .14.)-w country of -Fla osiers, _if ,au army Freld oinffitcheer i i- 1 ‘ ) T i e ) 6 rie A a t n ne ‘ r v i • u a a r ti ?—, w a l ,p, ' l 't f l a i n i 'think kh was e a w iN as- l a -- ..:, i English fo . rJ . e . had. g - ot From the. n mil f, of • -- - - jor-General in. Holland. ~ . , ......er garrisons* iic! CPPmr hive, in possess on , of, - Antwerp, - ,do the ') u o a. ?;l6 ru n i k u n d oW ni lt fi h ‘, a e t L ti o jo rd us C an lT i t u ltm u e i ;c i i , e h r s b i e rf, fo .! r ( e )i - 1 1: - !a n d f, pcsilj:e they • Could.h:iVe ell: elect. - - der to return by :the Seh' eldt ,; 1 1 3 1 :1 u rr n ic d l e ll.' r .ar l i i Y is tli c ,'. .) iC iii - i. l - . t 3i i i) ?, 6 . ell y i . r . c i n ° 7 ll : 7 l , c. . r :t t ' il : i t: t e il w- I l ?:?: l s L u tt rz g le re ci a . i .) l , os ti s:•4-- su l l j l e i l a ti v t e , s i a t t i ec i l :) t f u e r tt h E r, rig n, l v an i d ie ?- 711a I d ,rej i, 1 7 1 e y, i e t a lo n n n s t a it ua sai n mand. • . Is it not a part of the duty of the Commander iii , we. must _have been_ Chief to be prepared to ans+,ver to the Secretary of 'I previously masters of_ thepaSsage frOrn the mouth of State, or the Government, what the services of a n y- the Scheldt to Antwerp. • • . officer have been whamther'propose to hi m t o b e . . }fave,.yeu not i.vitriese-.‘d Lord Chatham. in pets.on employed in i servie - ?H-The (..;ointnander in Chief exercising' eight or ten thousand men much •to Lis -. cannot'give a petal le ,were known to , 'knew . w hit particular occasio n the Hon.Alenibt.i - d accoun t of every officer's s e c .', • -- eredit as an: - ; () . tficer:i n the East e r n ' distria. ?—I do nor 2 nder in Chi e f ; * refers t 0.,; . very pos s ibly a t some of the reviews '; t v v ic e e r s ;: bi L ay r* a d s • C we h l a l t ,a li s an t - i: ) s t h s u er c v n iC u e i s ma . You that in .the 'Year 1794;'when you • be was a man of very high military rituk, arid who but f;tie.re were so . many at that time IdO not re conanianded . at Atierp, you cOnsidered - ten then- had always concluded' himself well• in his situation, nit"-!mber•ite - - - . -. ' . . , ''''' ' • in Holland - ; indeed, I knew him ; he served snore ' particularly in the division of the army I Was ikand . I 'saw every thing that was proper, very much so at s4nd.then wo.._ild._he . a wicieht garrison.' agaiiist,aa der:conipeten'lo.; keep 411 cfivc artily out- of Atop , ' that time, in Lord Chatham; 'he w:iiafte . rwards un- regiiral—siege; i.' , 'Vliariitarnher - of men - do ion-eon . ' - der my cOrrimand in Kent, and I always considered ' ~ .wortls " terrthOusand men" as 'a sufficient garrison, Him 'and found 'him a very 'excellent offic * er.. werp for_ ten days.?--4 did not make use.,.Of, tio Lord Chatham, do' you Without considering you as . responsible for:the LI though that the least that2Coprd be c4lled a'gar'ti iiiirdciliate appointment of not believe ' that Lord C3sllereagli • .communicated .1 -so" for such a town as Antwerp; A g:trrlso.n for do-. confidentially fence ,I Mean ; that - depends'. upon .so ln an y CiKeutconfidentially with you withrespect to that appoint-.f meet, before the command was Ijeop ose d to Lard . 1 watices'Of preparation, and the niiinla_4 of thatarmy Chatharn ?—Lord. Castlereagh'ee r t a inl y corm - nei n - et • and in short so-many-thingsethat !cannot give' a de",.. i voted td . the, as . fir as I earl recolied: and I could poi c:ded answer to it., Were the ditches of -Antwerp dry or - ftill of • water, _. disapProVe, becatise I thought him a very prOper m an and a good officer. when. you commanded there ?—I do not profes a Iyii-OLI 'knoik what difference _there , was iii': tie , 1 .1 local lcnow . ledge of Antw er p to that extent, but y knowa part of the-in-Were wet, and I belleve,,a:: 4 4 state of . Strength and fortifizatiens of: Antwerp • at' ! I was i;1 J.I was not irba sad the time the expedition was • undertaken froni: 1; of ." re d 17;• ii lion to go about.andknow the place critiCally2blif l that in which it stood when7Ort Were therein 1794)' No,. I do not ; 1 never saw ar.y written description,., I I belieVe they were partly both: _consider that,: in case of jittack, Frain the knowlecige you - hav,e,:of . - (het ‘ ; 11i").... or alry plan of it, and. therefore' could not judge.' . l' •You nave stated that you had conversation. wall ' Schekli , do - you i . lame ships- cOutd have gone up . uhcler-the protAcpoti the Secretary of State, Lord Ca s tl ereag h, en the sub • of the citadel ?-- .-I understOvd so, thatthey cotildigo Ject of Antwerp, and that y o u w e re requ i red to state up to the citadel, .and .if an attacking army iv.siitiot t what were the nature- o f its f or tifi cat i ons and its tko . e . ; did : in possession of the opposite sid e v f•itk ip ri ver thex strength in the year 1794 when you Nvere the Secretary: of Stat e coinniun i c r t e . to y ou that lie wotil:d - be safe thete, a t ;d Could,potbe,ipl ! :it: • '; had any information as to oily alieratio a in the. Vaii ; ' Do . Yon ltnaw‘ti'° distance 0"I r tP 3( 4 40 4 - e44 1 tore and strength. of the tort fie.ttions of Antwerli Atli Wt2rl) ?- No, I really do oat fror.O.Myi-ewn knia:* ft... - .ln that tine ?-4 do not' recollet`a: that Lord Cas- le(igo; I suppose froM fitfeen tOftwenty)rniles, ••• .. 7 _ tiereagh•recrired mew state partictilinly as to - Ant- ' is it - u-s'ai, in I " : dLl' . .Y 0 1. ) e 1 : 2 4, 1, "i15 , 't9q - 4 11 - o .Y.3o'nt' 40,nn0 men .on a coop de victin?..—rit • 6c.liaftily is, pot Werp, -I su i 'ipose it d i d happen i n th e - course of con ver,,ti.n. ' •.: . ' • - . .., , use.i ;it inay der-nd upon the nbje& and the . :sizo ~ of Om:Alma. ,end a ,variety 'of thin() s . Hit! I can' - • ,-- ive 'Di ..1 Lord C isCereigli communicate to yoli that -'. ethical ••. .. ' to-that nc, ausivez he Intl" ally infointation as to 'any 'alieratio::l ft .' the stat an ex'ample.—The•Affitnvss was &reelect to with. ,of dele;no.e. and fortificatiou of Ant W.:fp . ? , low. ( T he 4 i iness was agiltic , aned i ii). ... , . . . ._ - A tri;l; wlii 4tra Cat), gre; I ea at.t cf:q rio► riVt SO mel 50, I re for the fro] sel of ( for Wa Sai safi Drc I (c tro t s car I:4,ar np call jai the fie rri) th a lug is 1•,-. 11 0 t: