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r` i f I I vl.~'i:RiAL I'ARJAA'' ANT. 1100S1; OF PEEPS, TUESDAY, `,l A 11Cti 27. The Cornm;tii privikgt.s heard Counsel on the iclaitn to the Banbury Peerage. ' , On the second readint of the Irish Distillery .ord •DALiNi.mr, in a • short Speech pointed roilt ~..••••, • h,. +1;0 , 12 ht would' aiise from this B'll, in conseqnence of its encouraging the con sumption of ar4ent.sPirits among the lo:Aer orth-N. Lord BATI-11.31:5T, , i;opbr„,-Oblie.rve-1, that when th t • ~ f \ IS still ptaCtised in the interior of the cot - tatty. This Bill would therefore nrobahly has \ - e . the eff-ct -Co iieluce the small contraband distillers to take out lii7eliqes, and , do that by• -law which they otherwise would do contrary to law. lAVElit'uoL laid some Papers on the table, and. Lord LI A I:13W I niC. E presented a Petition frOm the De-ilers in Corn ar Wisbeach, praying for some re gulations in.that market: The Private Bills :before. the House-were' for ward-d in their stages, and their Lordships ad journed. • HOUSE OF. COMMONS. TUESDAY, MARCH ,27 ! jt FK4NC,B:IIO}W.ETT. Mr. sLETni3iiii?§, in consequonce of the notice which he had ,esierday given, rose with a degree of pain and embarrassment, which •he declared - he had never hi-fore fit; tti . - make .1 coinplaint against one of the: MemLers of the 17,)itekt coinwth , s of Great Brawn, who,..in hi; opinion, - .had violated the privileges of the fittuse. lie did not mean'to . ehter Upon the snbject itt4clf, but it - was his - intention, to lay upon the. Tahl,• the document .which the Hon. Bar 'net, who 'a as the object of the motion, had ?dmitted was-puhl.st,ed- by his authority. For' the purpose of sitvihg the tiny; of - the House, he had marked certau passages in that _docamew,_. which, in his c' pinion; more . p:irticCilatjy justified him in the charge which he Intd:preferred * against the Lint.. Baronet. (The Hon. Member them gavein.at, t Tani, Colbeirs freckly Political Register. of Satur..lay last.) - The Si*AKER desired the Clerk to I,roceed to read the P.-per - complained of. ±Le 'wished tlx knew t. 'whether the Hob. IZ:ml3-r, ~any other 'Hon. Niember, was dqstroug . that. part , : only,' or that the whole or the Poi:iis:r should be read'? • , Mr. L•rkißitlDGE lainentc , cl• that l.e should in trude UpOkl. the at erViori of, the .at time when so irnpoi tint a disgossiop as : tivit of the Wal- cheren Inquiry wils in Its.progress. _He_rep,elited ttiat he had marked she iagt.s the "Paper which. ap peared 16 him to he ri - iwt.uonL t xtons; at the game iime, he had not the slit : thirst objection to the - c,.hule being read, The SPEAKER--" Clerk, sea& the Paper:" 1 1 1 c accordingly'b , 2gon. to read Sir Fi ancis Burdett's Letter to Ins . Collstitunts,, but .had not finished - halla dvit-4 sentenC•es, whn • • Mr. FL Sumt.ieti sli, tie to order.. :He conceived that_it world be extremely convenient 'to. postpone the discussion of tqs subject, consideration of the important bUsiiiess which stood. for that night.• The SPEAKER, 'hOWC:Vel,' , CieCiartd, that prock:eW:d .so fat•,• it • b'Oond .. the . power of auy Hon: Membef thterminati.: the pioceediog. A com plain' h av i n g b e en .toad =a} an Hon. Member of the House; for a breach of privilege, it was indispen sabre that - the House Should know , the grounds .upon w:iich it .was preferred ; after which they would . de... terminit what course vursue. Until that time, they could not do otherwise than hear the whole of the complaint, "and also the whole of What the Hon. Member had' to say in his defence.- The Hon. Mem ber alCainst-whoM the charge was preferred would then withdraw, and the House would enter Into the consideration of tiie•steps which it would become them toadop . t. The Clerk proceeded to read the Letter, and the " Argument' which iollowedi the- whole of which occnpieJ nearly an hour and a half . The SPEAKER-- Sir Francis Burdett: Lord FOLKSTONE -Splke to , order. The Hot. Gentleman had merely stated that his Hon. ,Friend'! had been guilty of a gross breach of their privileges, and had followed that general statemeat, by laying on the table a dOcument, ,which is had taken neatly an hour and 0 half. to read. - It seemed absolutely utcessary that the Hon. Gentleman thould point out the Itarliettlar passages - to which he alluded, and ex- Va.n is vies of the subjeti, 'that hislion.• Friend mt,;ht know with what pr,cise offence be -was charse.(L Unless tYs was done it was impossiole for hi.: Ho.r. Fri-nd tO rise to answer an acctisation vaE;tio. and inde.finitt.. Mr. LETtiERIDGE` rlAted, - that he bail no Objec tion to point out. the passages, which struck hirti as ofle.fisive. He bad. before tatcd, that with at liew to save the time of the.Houst,t, lie l.ad marks: ed t-o,e pis !gi.s in the Paper which he had riven order-that, if t be.Honse chose, those passages 216ne might have beep read. He (Mr. Lethbridge) , had no thought, however,' 'that it would become •him to press 40c41 a partial evading upon the House, lest it shOuld have been - imputed. to him that he wished to ground his loeus..4itoti;upou garbled ex-' tracts. He was ready now,to state the passages, and tht n. to adopt any line of condua - Which the flOuve,. in its wisdom, might thii.k it proper to purSue. He was influenced by no - feeling of personal hostility to wards the:Hon. Baronet,'Ont merely by his sense of ditty as au Englishman, and as the it9prosentative of _As indeftendent a body of men as existed in she coun try. He said', the. first passage to which he wished particularly to call the attention of the House, was the commencement of tie Hon. Baronet's Letter to his Constithents Age 42 t of the Reoter).. Jt.was as follows : " The House of Commons hiving. passed . a vote which amounts to a declaration, that an order of theirs is to be of more weight than Magna,Chana and the Laws of the Land, I M i ra: it my duty ti lay my sentiments thereon before my character as freemen, and even whose persimiarsaiet), "depends,in so great a degree upon the de cition 'ihis gvestion, a question of. no less ihip-ortance than this i. whether our' liberty be still to be , secured by the lawsot faot forefathers, or be to lie at the absolute in:4.y of a p-rt our feVoN-subjeds colleded together by of which it is not necessary tor me to describe." -He appealed to the House whether that passage ;110::e would not have justified hiiu in bringing the übjed uudei:their cont.tder.itiun ? It was followed . , by (;therF, which ',he would proceed to read : the fist of .which (page 425), after asking •why the House, if they Could send_ whom they plci - 4,0,ta a. ja.l in London; might ,not send their prisoner. to York jail, confine then) in solitary cells, or fold them with chains and bolts, the flonotirable 13aroott. said-- " They have not gene these lengths yet ; but 'What is there to ►estrain them if they are td be the sole judges of the. extent of their own 1)0 , ,....er5., and if they are . to ekerciso those powers withotit any controuf, and without leaving the par. ties whom they choose to Oafish,' any-molleol , appeal, any means of redress. " - . . The next p.issage almost immediately followed -- " 1 shall (1. all that- novurenmins in-my power"-towards the c ,, treelion of -this,. as,l deem it, tnosi euormoui abuse of power, and most dasigerous . of all encroachments upon the, rights ithd liberties 'ot Englishmen." With this p issage, the Hon. Baronet closed his letter. Next came .the " Aigurnent." In p.. 426, would netbund the following passnge • Had 1 not been Prevented by •iridi , position from . being. preseot•when the House of .Commons passed, by , voie, a sentence otitnprisonment On Mr. Cale FaleS, -I should haNie endeavoured to shew, that under the false notion of. Privi lege, they were exercising a power; and committing an at of oppresSion, ill suited to the charader of guardians of pub. lie liberty, and destiudive of the first and most important object of the cOnstitutioni viz. the personal security of the subj.ed." In page 426 the folloiving passage occurreed 't Founded on such a basis, fortified by such authorities as I shall nave ,occasion to appeal to in the progress of this inquiry, I have little doubt of being able•to convince .every impartial mind, that the HoUse of Commons, by proceeding to judAroctict passing a sentence.of imprisonment —and issu ink a wayratit of commitment, has gone beyond its prescribed lunits, - acted in a Manner inconsistent with tale ends of its institution ; and viotatesrthe fundamental principles of the 'law and Constitution of thejand." . Passing onward, to page'446, the House' would meet with the following pAssAgc " By proceeding Ohs they • had exercised a jurisdiaiOn not vested in them; a .jurtbdlttiort beyond the Anna. ,of King, Lords, ond Commons, while May,na Charra reihains tiiirepealea and ropealed at can neN,r lac, till England shall have' ound her grave corruptionot a 1 1 : 01 IbV. Of ComninonS;" • In adverting to the Speqlter'g warrant for com mitting Mr. Jones to Ne.wgate,.. the Hon. Baronet expressed. iihns.elf in .the tohowing terms " • Let this - instrument -this thing , sii .genei-is, - he con trasted with the description' above given. ot ine properties of a lawful warrant. Does it,not evidently appear ttiat.this \piece of unsealed paper,signed by the .Spe.iker, by wlin.:ll'an untried sic „tett nas been outAweti, hears n c feature or lega lity ? and that trorn the commencement of this ; proceeling, inns progress; and to its concldsien, there "is not•one step" that has.not been marked in a peculiar 'manner with dis-e -s-pe...t torthe laws"; a disresped in which go I t he parts have been wondcrlully . consistent a ttirouglioue in eenstitUt.ing the most Unia.wtui aCt4rze mind •of Man can possibly conceive." The'last passago' with which he vould't . ro.uble the House -was contained in page 457. • , • • " - 'l'hey still, it seems,'were ettiboldenedto retain 'an ille gal power not pretended to even by the King ; bbt which, these local Sovereigns over the King, claim .as otrigitt. —But, no wonder, when they have so entitciy departed trout . the ends oftheir institution, as was offered to be ‘ proved by Mr. Maddocks, and'acknowiedged by themselves in the never _be-tirrgorren meriting of the ittii of May; 11309 ; whjn from being the lower or interior (tot it is the same sense t •one,being .EngliSh the other a Lain word; branch of 'the: Legi,lature, . they have become the prOprietors, by.Burgage tenure, of the whole representation ; and in that capacity inflated With their higtr-blown fanciful ideas of Majesty, and tricked out in the 'trappings of Itoyalty, think privilege and protection beneath - their dignity, assume the sword of :prerogative, and lord it equally over the King and the People." e would' trouble the House._ no further but. to say, that on these .specific passago he made his charue - 'against. the. Honourable .Baronet for a . violauort of the prwileges of the House of Com mons: . A paUse ensuing, the SPEAKER remarked, that the course of proceeding was, alter a. complaint had beery-. made, and after the complexion' of that complaint had been ascertained, to hear the lienotiv. able -Member against ,- whom -it had been pre fei red. , Sir F-BI.7•RDETT then addressed the. Chair for a very,few minutes, but in so low a tone of -voice, -that we . are not sure •we correctly understood the Honourable Baronet. As far as we could Pendency of his observations he appeared to us to say, that the pipe's which .had heen - puhlishe4 under his name, and which' had just been read by the Clerk contained Opinions which he had not formed without much consideration, and from which he did.not see any reason to depart. It was impos - -. Bible to understznd: what the Hon .dent. opposite meant by 'the term "Privileges of the House." He, begced to know, whether it was necessary for him to withdraw. The SPEAKER replied, that a matter Qf complaint of a breach of - privilege had been stated - by one Hon: Member against the another ;. the uniform- course under such circumstances was, that the person ac-: cused was first heard in his defence, in which he might'admit, deny, or extenuate the matter with which he was charged, and that then he was re quired to withdraw. It then became the duty of the accuser to submit to the flouse,some proposit. lions declaratory of their opinion on then fads before then), and of his proposition the House would'dis pose at its pleasure. Unless therefore the House departed from its usual coufge.of proceeding; which had beet) hitherto unchanged, and which be hdped was unchangeable, the - Hon. Baronet must with -draw before any other proposition could be made. .(2l loud cry of withdraw ! withdraw and Sir 1. •flurdett accordingly withdrew.) Mr. WiLsot , ; ;Ow, a-jd," was,. cotruntmcing some 01)F:1 - rations, when he was interrupted by The SPEAKER, who. said; That the lionj3aronet having withdrawn, ;i was 't he duty of the Hon. Gen tleman • in,• whom the affair originated - , to bring, forward such motion as hr, might think tuost advi sable. • Lord OSSULSTON was also proceeclng to make some.observations, when The SPEAKER again interfered. As yet there was no quebtion before the House. _ Lord OSSULSIOII made some further observations, which were wholly inaudible in the Gallery, He was stopped- by th*r cries of " Chair, Chair !" • The SPEAKER rose, in obedience. to the , call of the House, to set- the Noble Lord right.- As far as the transaction had: proceeded it I.v[ts perfealy in conformity to the usage of the House It now . , remained for the Hpnourabele Gentleman to make his motion. , . .LETHBRIDGE then said, that as It was the pleasure of the House, he would proceed to make such motions as appeared to him to be the roost advisable, Jo doing . thisite shoitld be extremely short, for •Itiany - rea . scitti, the prittcipal one'of which was; that— Lord Foig.sTON/3 spoke to order. The Hon. Gentleman had already - made a.:speech - on the pre sent occasion. :If it were the Hon. Gentleman' , intention to advance any !tin fler arginnents befl , r the. motion, he contended that fully rrititled . to hear them. His Hon. Friend . •ttir Onque,tionable right to hear all the charges that were io' be, preferred' against itim,_althongh_ the. usage at the. House might require that he shOuld withdiaw immediately before't he motion. • The SPEAKER. apprehended - that the course which the Hon. Gentleman was about; to pursue was iier fedly consistent with the fbrnis of the House._ ll was about to -submit 'to the 'HO w;e'a preposition of which they were to judge, a 'proposition founded on the complaint which the aimottrable Batonet against. whoth - it . was preferred had ken pteSent to bear., He apprehended that it was the duty of the Ho pourable Gentleman now'.to oifer his motion, tic companied with whatever reasons be might think it necessary to offer to the House, 'to .induca theut to adopt it. , • 4 -The CHANCELLOR or liie . Exontßoui coincidrd. With the Speaker, that such was the 'proper trithle of proceeding. -Lord Tor.x.sron persevered in his original opi nion, and adduced several precedent 4 in support of it. His Him. Friend bad been called on for his d!-- fence, but-it was impossible t r him to say any third `on the (unless indeed hi:',',IMPTV retracted pr, repeated 'his - opinion) until he had: ,bear 4 the argo meats by which the charge against him was to .be supported. TOe SPEAKER explained two gistina coors t s, of proceediog 'which the "Nol Lod had mihgh,,d in leis &ins'ideralion" of the point. de took the 9ul t i of the prindpte 'on' which Hie House proceeded to_be . •:)./Pmber charged ,sh , ulcilhave not of the ',tibstance of the chore, but not -of the argu ments in support of Mr LETHI)itIDGE contirmed: He assure t. th e that , he lud, many reasons - fur being. coielse in his address; the principal.one of which wa, hi s being little accustomed to speak to . a public assorn:: blv. Painfol and difficult as the ti•,sk was h e had sudde.dy bo-n 'called upon, to execute, he, had thig c nsolatiA),.that t e master was s , ) clear that it required no elucid He 'shoiild propose .two resoltv ions, and•-•he trusted ;jhar ther:wOuld.he adopted by the House if they ,wished, to - preserve their ownchatac , er and t'-at of ad Euglanci... He spoke from the bOttom of his .11.2 art. (and Ire wished that the forms of the House-did •not ireclude the Hon. Baronet from hearing' him) when he Alechred if 'to be his firm opinion, that if the House were de sirous of saving its character from utter .destrildion, it was high time that a.siop shoUld be :put to vac tices such as he complained of.- He. had heard it asserted in that House, and . 'the -assertion made his _hair s6tid . an end, that in point of character the the House " had riot a leg. to"stand on." He trusted that-the House,•in justice.th itscit rncl the country, wouldput a stop to such proceedings, and cdtichlded• by moving two resolutions. • • • • i. That a Letter signed Francis . Burdett, and a further ar ticle, .entitled-an : Argument,- inserted - in. Cobheit's, Weekly, •Register.of- the i,4ih of March, 18in, is a linclious and :.,.:iii dalous-paper, Teflecting on the. rights and privileges of ttle House of Commons. . i. That Sir Francis .Ettudett, Bart.-;wlio. had. perinitr., , l. the letter and further _article to be.. printed . -with aut h e _ rity; had viqlated the rights and privileges of the Home. of "Commons• Mr Mii.NEs 'seconded' the - motion. The course' of proceedingin this arse had. deemed- un , . usual . i• this was not the fed, for, it was filly jttsti lied by precedent, and he instanced, in proof of his assertion, the_ precedent of .Mr,:..Arthur Hall,. who sn long back as the 4tb of. February .15-08, was committed to prison. for a siarnar offence.•. Tills' evinced the jealousy of their forefathers ,with sped to their rights. and privileges, and he trusted that _ihe House . of. Commons of 18 to vuould, not„ be 'more regardtess of _their tights and. privileges .than the' House of Commons of 1508. He adjured the House to censider the dangers which nitglit arise. from allowing sack a .vebernent attack upon their character and dignity to pass unpunished. A spirit bad lately been raised in this cotintry by a cla ss ,_ o " f persons, few in number„ but .active, in disposition, which it became the House to ri94_.,11,, if. they wished to preserve the estimation in-which they 1 1 4 --biih er . to been had. Mr . PoNsbany had never been inclined to shew a disrespect :for the charatter of the House,_ but .he thought the - sn'r)jeCt required the gravest • and Most deliberate cOnsiderkftiOn, to the pied that . they might come to a satisfactory conclusion., Tile Hon. Ge,t tleman had caused a very long paper to be read, in .which he had pointed . out soma ohjedionable The,House must., however, he aware, that to jud,;e ,from some parts of a long document of the Whole paper, without comparing the various,. was very dif *ticult,.mo-e e,sFecially when it involved a. point . of law. He hoped the House would trot suspect him of shrinking trout the-discussion when he ,proposed an adjournment of that debate. There Wo• .ther important question before the House, for they were all prepared. •Ou that subject he - had some plain] to Jheir atlention. 'For. the subject then be fore the House, he thought it probable they were not so - well prepared. He was not, for his 'own parr: He would therefore move as anamehdment. that debate should be adjourned till that day se'n. 7 night, The CHANCELLO •of the EXCHEQUER had no intention to oppose the adjouiliment of the sub ,but 11(1-was averse . to its being adjourned, for so long a time. He though the earliest day that could be. named for .restuning, the debate, most des-T., able, as far as it respected - the- House as well, As •the individual. , The Meinber 'alluded to had been desired, to .withdraw . ; he'did not say how far 'that Circumstance interfered With his voting on another -question ; but if the law of the House would per mit to do so, which he theught Might be ques tioned, it was. not- very consistent with the diguiiy of Padiament, that a Member shQuld take part in their proceedings who had just .viaited their pri .vileges. He would, therefore, prcipose to the. Hon. Member, opposite, that .the debate should be resotu ed to-morrow (Wednesday), or on Thursday.:, He thonght it due -to the charatierer the House, that the discussion of ,a subject so important should not be deferred longer than was necessary. He hoped the -ion,-Gentleman would name to-morrow; if he. Would- not, he (the ChaliCaor'Of 'the Exchequer) would.move =amendment to that effect. He eon.. .curred with the proposition of adjpurning the. de- -bate, on the ground orits being necessary to ex unine carefuly a very long paper, which hxd been laid before them. He wished it adjourned tt,l toy' Inorrow, that • they tut ht have-tithe to give it a pa- tout examination, and that by that time they could d3l so, no one cotdd doubt. 'He concluded by. moving,. as. an amendment,- that - the '‘.l,•ord • tat , crow," should be substituted fur. that day se'it night. . , Mr. WiTITBI;EAb was certain his friend . ha d )noved in adjournment only because , he ished thiv House not-to come to a decision on the que S t i on illF they knew 'what the question - was. When the.. It.ght Honourable, Gentleman taropos:d such a mn lion, and that at a time a most import n - question was pending concerningliimself, he would not inv.:. rpotekto him -that he wished-to cal the atten:ion of, the country to another 4 , ibject, •or to abstra:A Pie -,tt,ntion of thi- fiouefroni , the Expr-ditiOn'to the Scheldt, -at a time when his. Hon. Friend, being it possession of the House, Was considered as speak.;;; Int ; but how could he say; that by to-morrow rho, House could lie fully prepared for the discUssion'of the subje6t ? Could they,•between the r ising of the iiotte and its again meeting (fatigued as in all pro- It_;}~ility they woul4 he) be stuirsed cipabh-, of pos. sensing themselves of the requisite information. for one was certain he could not Ibe prepared for th* subject by the time. As. the debate on the .Expedi.i* tluti t•) . -Seneldt would:not In all prObabllHy ter minat:e- Thurslty morning, he would propaso that th:• subject sliouldi,)e resumed Friday. Lord Fot,Ks:bke had,no 6.xNe3,ti , in of an ad. Journment 112 , 14 ploposed, bat tt tho . tau...! to lavcii, 6 “ - siri)jett ; - and he' wo ,-, d we to gay,- kb A th.l ,rnote--* -W3 log !fit°, wore woold redmlnd to the credit o his Pr!end,, !tifr t. implored he 1 - ;louseat , enti , ely to consid,r the portance of tir: . -cise, hop:d t,,ey Wooi down wi h foelings ve..o d troM t' moser and the seciin,icr ot the m tso would ri-g.ild que,tion, <>t . !he riase B ironer, but ilt.%c,te.d with the fkiiidarneutol t T • l bt . c,ution and I of 111;,1t11,1 opposite, he . hoped, Woull own they 11.: perly considered tlie B„,bjed. ile w.:s for the debate till ;that day se'nuigiit, • STEPHEN said the Noble, Lot d ha! ferni. :d 'unanswerable argurnents in ftvour of : Ment. The . .importance lie attached to the subject . was.suffictent to chew the impropriety 'Of , adtnitting rif any.delay. - If - a subjt a were sulferhi g nolaw Int. ly, anxious as he was tor the decision - on- that great question which concerned the charat:ter•of his A:glit Hon. Ci iend, yet if a man IA ere kinjtistly •i:nprisatis. inquire into the sub:p•ct hnuiedittey, whom fintlting...could . be urged 'ogainst such ii; iii cp.iiry but thal the clizitai!'ler (4 - ' his Right H , frieur" able Friend: Vvnaltf O!eared np iit a tiny suontr in . consequence Qi; it. Tile guys; iont nOt (1 1 :' relatecko.their.uriv_ilz;sei, but to the imprison= area of Mr. Gale4opes, he could therefore in 4.vicil a case hardly agree to potli t lg -it rill at Chancellor of the Ex - chequer hati-been . harshly • ac' cured of \visiting ,to•intetrupt the discussion of tlYi grand question then pending that he tnytt gain '; 1 few hours. The aeplg:ition inight have been m3..!e.With the same p Icity of reastat had, sun a circumstance occurred at the c:anmetici‘ent'a (tithe - •The pr•QpoSed• adjotfruinent. o f Ilia subjea till to morrow waS• quit: enough; ands 110 - doubted if it were nor too rut:ch, • The CiiANcELLori of the EACtiF:4uitt did not in" , tend' treubling' th,.! House' at length, though as' therd 'was a nel . ? question i •he , was not prohibited fr o m s" doing. When he was ai, - ;dused of endeavouring to in' terpose kday,.inerely to (mike a delay Of hours the discussion of the merits of the late expedition, 1 110 House would not exiled him to remain' siicnr, clAd he - thought it was in his power to make 4 s,Ati:if.c' torTanswer . w it hoot going into any length, as it %AM only necessary to ask the House, if he ever any step to interpose one day•or one 'loth' to jr4ol . ' rapt or delay their inquiries. If he had-Wished tor one day, .could the Hon. Gentleman suppose, thAC had he appeale3 tri the House soliciting suet indt4" • gence, frornthesii"tration in which the. - paperi "wer3 that had been laid'before the'House, Was it - to be sup' posed that sut..h art applicatio::: cc ull`itave•been by po s ' stbility resisted ? He Was ler Irony wishing tO cre';Ca any.delay; on the contrary he v..iisaS anxious for got' ting Orough with the business as i'aerHon. G-ntle 4 I mail himself could be, It. Was WTI"; to CINI.Y_t (tO / with catmng 4 • Was•he the ai:thf•r o: site lt' bel in, question ? Did lie prevail of L ib..` Hor s . net to publish it on Saturd y ? •-'lt was.. absurd to think so.. T.ll. ground on which li , ! - ha.i .. piopo.ed al) amendment wa,, that where a paper of -import...o;o was laid before them; it was trot well to come to 3 decision on the first reai4ing; bur .t . heri . tr:e Noold Lord said it was t'ibt . on. the raper btli , ol.i he Li ( that . they -were lo , decHe, it I.) ,. (itit.ea rpesi;oh i) such impor ance, that while c:_itleti,for: :heir g riisH est c Msideratioty; it denianded ti,eir.truritj-ji:ge tention. was!liine;tinn On whin the Op independence, a;)d even Ge k-xistui ße of Home depe.nde.d ; and :f th;.:y consented. to -1 , 44 , °' pone it Satre, hour unnecessari!y, 1114 coti.enteo trampled on, put! 'surren rei.l ;heir pl'iv,loir.s v.!-)kt hotrair m 8 , 3 doing. For these reasons tvonlc.l 0(.1 - withdraw his amen !intitt. /Cad 'irttle. cl4.tiht o ,{ What w,ould.be the sense (4 . 1 c se en tly je " , , naving bean so 1)) op -I most nuanimuu, vole. • . Mr. B.ITHUR,T 'Olol.4lht the s4:l3jel.it .shotd,i,no be'resumed till the debate on tia.t F. dalo1) to th 4 SChOldt had been b;ought to its Eel Mr. C. W. WYNINF.• addtset'd the cases 01 Sir chard .Steele, Mi. Er,kine, and IViaj,,r Scott, in , suplort - the'adjnirrnment till Monday, which considered necessary. ,When tl,e subject was . he , lore agitrted, there were but 164 Members n tile Hou;re. There were tii,en (yeste)day) nearly 400 present; to the „greater" part of whom tjresubj.o WaS Me NV. I.VIADDgeKs spoke a few words on the s:lnie side, atter which 0. diV4iqn toolt, place, who 140 nu fibers were— Forthe Amendment 196—Against it 146. Anotilt:r division took place on an - Amendment proposed by Mr. Whitbread, that the ditcnssion should proceed now instead of to-morrow, ° numbers we e-- , For Mr. Whitbread's A rren !mint e e 138 gaillSt it . ------ zi; pliprity for proccociiiig to. !')! TOY' (rlll4 day) --7;