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M 1 o:Ans to Mr. 130ais 30001. and he wrote to Igra, iett the bargain was made. by Mr. Bow, sub je to her appr9baiion ? That lie would write to her, and see whether she approved, of it. Do yon know any thing of any interest Mrs. Gardiner had for a Writershy in Ceylon ?—No; I do not. Do yotynot knottr that tins was a' matter of ex change; that one appointment, was given for ano ther ;: an appointment ten Madras for an appoint ment in - Ceylon ?•!-•-it - irecolleCt something. 4 that , kind ; I think-it was in Mr. Magniac's ease I have heard - the circumstance. */ ' 'lt is not within your knoWlidge ; Mr. Woodford did mention .something of titqAtraitix rlane . that it Wasa matterrit exelninge.q oict Did you ever hear the name of Mr, Greenslade Introduced into this , hUsinesfi,? - 4 1 0. 1 inki•ki'ave beard the namo mentioned by,,Mr,,,iVnodford ; there was in one of, them an exchatlgc :ffeeto., think; and Ceylon. , I recollo4 ~ perfealy haVe, been men. : t: , u ,It might be in this ?--It,roight be. 4 a Yritcrattip in Ceylon , reckoned of, equal Va.; • It. with a Madias Writership ?--4 do not,know. What is the ordinary value of the next . Pliellta• 0011 to a living in the West of England, where the, incumbent is old; how many years purchase?--4 calculate about ten years., Waf: it upon MrB. Gardiner's recommendation Only you riceeptad of Mr. Gardiner as being a fit person ?—lt was upon the recommendation of . Iny . banker, from whom I should haVe accepted of a recommendation of any one. DO you pay over five hundred guineas to Mr. Donovan the second transaction I did. With your own hands--Yes; in the presente of rny'brother. Mention your brother's name, and Whioe he lives in Argyle-Street---his name is fence; IS he a partner, with you ?—Yes. You paid it into his own hands ?—Yes ; 50J1. it) notes, and a cheque of pal. Have you at any time had any transaCtion with • 111 r Woodford; relative to the appointment ,of Cadets ?—None. What other transaBions have you had with Mr: . Donovan, rattive to any appointment to the East l„ dice ; I il.LeVe Mr. Donovan may,luve appiled to me, to ask me whether I could procure this, that, or the other ; he has several times ; 'hitt this is the only transaction I have ever had - with hits). Had. you :toy transaetion with Mr.. .Donovan, in which the name of O'Hara was introdined 4 Mr. U'L-larit's niuno was ittOver tuentioned an :tli*6 a Cour se (>1 that. transac tion; of Cour,ie I, know what .transaaion you allude; to; it seeined to be a trans action which . , was cobtbunded With that of Mr: Magoiae, when I read .Mr.Donovanti examinitiOn. State . ,what you know ,with regard to that ardoint 7 ment, in w hien the marni of Mr.,Vll t l'y3 wits tionecl ?—,l' know nothing, at all bill what J get from rite Paper ; I NI to assure, the. Poturnittee 4.) 4 t I tiot a tiatlicker these things; I . ‘clu not wish to do it, itOr ilitye I any Occasion it) do it. I N lii ti dia 00110 1 /all last i—lCatinot say exactly ;, t have not seti-lk Mtn, pencling the In quiry betori,..:4lie I lOtisc : Ot corpO19:1, • • • kit etilir~'t Wtlettier you are quite. ill it Woo4.llotel never mentioned : toyou how Lit obtained this NVihersitip:for NI?, • * G•ir quer • I c'o not wet' a - I to tai;e upon to say whidi it was i O,do j. colleCt that tin ptchattge w.as inciitionekt; and w th t t4 one of th e NViiterships ,as oy , " o eZchtmge i hut l cannot state .whicit. he ever ote;aion ta, you that Mr. :Witallan tad 'given him it Ceylon \Vrttership 'did atria , ,tion soniething respektioj a Ceylon and .1 believe it might be that. • Your recoj.q.lion does not* serve you. to state, oir eolivi:rsation, either kith Mr. Boast: or : , Irs. (arditicr, respettiog those rippointments, (.Steiner s appoitttnti.lit to a `~✓rift Is 1 , ,n was mentioned ?—No ;it it took e, it was with Mr. Woodford, and I he did Mention it was in exchange, but_ 1 / 4 .011c1, it, was I ("moot say. I)i3 Mr. WoottfOrd mention to YOur`lint oat aj tl to provide for Mr. (ieeetishid ?---iYes, this ; ;: he t!id ; be' expre s s e d 'n • desire ,to provide for One, Ij4'.`l eatu:ot :say the name ; I understood thatoite 'of the- Wri,eiAtips Was' applied in that way. y. Jou ever had any other trans:v.:tons with any pf,.p l on, tel.stive to the divosal of appoiottuents to t grist Indie ),0a have had no other transattion with Mt". Wooctol.d, ,fief you know of any other tratts4ction respecting List Patriar.2ige„ Obtainexl *through pay other..nitans 1,-1 had a conversation With a time ago, and I believed I 'suited. liirrttrol'eninewished to send a young man to India its Cadet, alit! said he.woulci obtain it for .one .as a to4t;;:r of ftie;poThip. / • , • Vitas it itated to that friend upon what terins.yOU that sittwion t----Itwas a voltintory 0tr , .., , r oil 0,41 to Obtaill it for , 1.14, you tm.:att by voluntary, gratoite),lis Ttiete w 43,110 pecuniary consideration mentioned 'Ott eittivr t.4ttt "*."' 1) 4 4 butt that Gt;niktil)ai4 ti d n and believe I wiaht.h3y, that if 'Mg:IOUL' should ihrow rite Dolt: behind the fire. 'Who is that person ?---1-lis i ndrpe is Dardis,,Wd liam,* Where .deer he live, and what is riU : ?—ue lives in Q l -eat Qrat,!ci-strecr, \V.istnihister, tokssion ;—Not thou 1 know Thvoug,n whist interci , it was this Ctideliihip to ho proem eit, Qnnot say. . . • 11,1, b e ne ver state to you wh;tt interest he had at flu India Howie ?—Never. Ji kh4t, the only transaction to which yOui: reef 4.. leaiot) enahh!s you to speak ?• : , -1 7 :4 1 ,. li.ne you the took now. Whit about might this 'be .with Darclis Jo, the..e.liist 3i% MIS. tiF,pl;:Gtr, DAVfB. 'What line of basine)s.to 'you follow proviohs to the Att, .heeti vouch own:exited in thO pegociation t hitt since tho t\tt pro, Whiting that, it bas linen cont Wed to exoi4nges. • Jo I k t artily ?---Yes, 'Po you bnsintos with reentd to other °dices, othees Ido not, •.• i)id pot twver near eiro6ted any thing .4 ) ; bvq)i, t(i trig araly; i)ut y tL3^t ifit sq arts t0, , ,gti04 out Have you not hien concerned as igeneral agent for all sorts of offices ?--Indeed I haie not, tainly not ; I have anxiously :*voided the idea, :and the reputation. of having any thing io do with whet are called Civil Appoint ments,: for there has been . sort of discredit ittLiched to' that..' :With regard to exchanges in the arpoy, his Majesty has set a price orlon them; but I have anxionlly avoided Civil ap pointments. Have you never had any thing to do with traffick ing. in .-East IndiL Military appointments,?-4 have treated;but have unit etfeaed them f I have Writer ships. What Writerships were those ?-, , There was ono with Mr. Donovan. Ff r i t y ji ) ,-4- s ince ?—I Ihi nit 1804; it arose from a Ur; Mq)etugull informing we. that he hid the power .of r. effetting a Writership, and asking me whyther, 1, knew, any, Gentleman who wanted one, audlretperubpr expressing my. doubts Of his power, and my wishes to decline ; hut I .received ,so m:wy tniPortunities in' the course of the day to bringforward:My friend to take ii, that at last he acquiesced. What was done in consequence ?—lt . cathe to no-. thing.. Could not the appointment be attained ?—So it appeared, justas . I predicted. In whose patronage was that appointment ?—I do not know. I afterwards discovered that Mr. Dono van was connected with him it) the negotiation. Dd you believe that that appointment took place No, certainly . I know it did not. I was ;unused with romises from day to day, every Court day, for several months, and it did not take place at all, , Ha & you ever any conversation with any of the Directors upon that subjea certainly not. What other Writer hips have you eter been'CCM . . cernd in attempting n) negotiate —.--fliere was one with the . giver Of a Peer, she offered it 'Me, but fe4ily.l should• not hesitate a 'moment on. how I should ad., were I asked such a question otherwise than by this honourable Conimittee. Do you know a Mrs. GroVe ?---Yes. ,To whom was she sister ?—She told me she was sister of the late Lord Clare, the late Lola Chancel lor of IreliMd. S that the lady you allude to ?—Yes. Where did she live at the time you allude to ?-- She Wed. at Mr..PonoVan's. Had you ever seen her before ?—•lndeed I had riot :1 did not ikrtow' her till she introduced' herself to me, and informed ine who she was. Had - yatvever hrud uf her under any other name ? I har.l not. yyou. know how long she has bad the IlatAC of Groves ?—No. :Ijo'yo4 know what former name she had ?----No; I under Stood she was married, sand her name was chanted; butt shbold, not have known who she was, if she had not informed me she was sist er o f the late Lord . Clare. what time did yob see her. ?---4n the early part of 180(i.; Have.yort seen her since that time ) —Not•since, brit for a month or so at that time while s he W a s . 't&mpting ego, this Writership. Dial you see her frequently then;? . ---Possibly hate dozln'titrttg. I4we you .Lev er seen her 'sincOthat time ?—Cers tainly , nor. not -her-by 'accident even Na, I do notretoolleeveteing .hco iunsecptent to , a month After,.tinit,vr it maitre hitt !weeks'; • I ham no re eolKiieti.:Of 'any other 'coinfnunitation3; certainly nor. , • •,„ • t „gad you-enyreasoer. tO'believe that she was the late I Ciftie's sister, exeeprher vroft , ssints Lit rsdif tir be Pretr"tairity tot, she. mentioned t sanlrtilitl's; ill -tilt f:sltil~ nattle ol'Je#l.liett, tor I no ticed to 41er-the se ll' wit b which _she te4led 'her letters, Orli - two J's and a corOnc.t . st:. l ,tt'rked a very shrewd, sen'ibte, clev_r winn I t h o ught. tong What. &a site offer - you Writiirship in i3en- I think it was. , • What t ult place in consequence ?-4 did intro duce a (4,:titi-iitsni to her, anti it Alas'tittettlpted ; but there Wa, ti >nt di'approultion of t h e secort); offer ed, and t e nt proceeded ill ; she employed a M. Ituditig or Healing. 'Where doei; Le do not know ; he lived at thattifto, Innikrsion,l, reen. 7 l ? t reet,,/Gros. venOr-hquare; 1 did not like his behaviour, and _therefote did not notice him , but he ha's since that ‘ltiqUl Ili the ;14 . 1 -Ming hone to mine : I I.ave heard he is in eir.barr.-iisineht, but 'Hid not notice him.' ' Do you know where heklives 'now ?---1 heard my servai,t say Mr. Reiling er as gone to the Fleet, He sot;lci it , I think, Reding; hut Mrs. (groves spell 3 it . . Was he an agent or a banker &not know ; , Ilic.wer saw him below lie was employed by her, I ttiuu to go to a Peer4l,N; and J conceived iliac name 4•as mentioned in that sort of - confidential way to be, that I was.not at liberty to impart it. It ne4erhas paised my' liavo you never written about it to any body did to her Lord, as I Mt cc ncerned that I should,. 4,usiibly, be Obliged to dit.ulge it. • For cv :tat purpose 11:d you write to bet Lord 1-4 r fiti t lUrit it in a ; I ihooght it would occa. fiott Su much uneasineha and distraetioni,. 'Did you believe that the transaction was to tako plAee through that lady L_t had no rt....thou to &sew. dit U ; . .Mrs Groves as.iored me .that was the case. tonsaclion take place'?—Ceitainly.not. Froin_whaf reason do you suppohe the negociation brukentl? rea,on was explained by Mrs.Giovess that at that inornelo there was a ch.m,;e in the Ad- MiniAration, and that it vial a Board of Control ap:: point:mutt. I recoiled .Mr, Reding,. 'or _Ri-ading, afterwarditintOrineo me, that there was no Court stibiegnent to that moment, during ti.e then Admi nistration, by which a nomination could properly take place card, I do_ nut _know whether it was a . card; ; or how, that there was rio oppQi.'• tonitr.of the person Ming appointed. Who itas at the of the Board'of Control thrt time dO not, know. , Did she not immtiors , by, whom it W3S to be given to your friend ?—A N9ble \Tit catuit was mentioned to me, Was not Lord.Castlereagh the person mentioned i ...fie was.. NVEs# lmr4 Castlereagh the person 'in whom you wrote, COMMUtticatilig the circurnstaucts ?—kie NV 11 ilow 101;4 asu w.:ls that Vaozataion?-4( Ns it) the beginning of ISO; it was the moment or the change of Administration that she applied for it. When I wrote.to bin Lord Ship, he requested me to call upon him at his °like in Downing -street, and I did'on that day. Did. you see him?—No, he was at. the c4b' cincii and I received a note the next day, acknowledging the, receipt of sir, and requesting that I would ex plain every thi og, so that the party who . made use .of his name should be detthed, or something of that kind. , , • , , Did he &cline seeing you ?—No, so far from that; his servant deliVered to me his complitneynsi and desired that 1 - would call at his house in Do-wil ing -street, anti, if be was not there, go to the House of Commons. .••• •„.••••••• „ • You have not seen him 3—NZ I have not. : And' no appointment was Made for seeing him in the note you received ?..-No ; but he reqoested I would lend my . aid in order -that the party who would' be daring enough to,malie ,so improper a-use of his name (I think that was the expression) , should be exposed. You could produce the note, if necessary?'..—Yes, certainly. . What other transaaions relating to East India Pa. tronage have you ever been concerned in I—The only other 'that I recollect is this, a Writership I attempted, in IA hich the consideration was approved by the Court ef , Direetors, that almost took place; it was Mr. Bent, the merchant, who was aft& wards Member for Aylesbury, wishing to obtain. a Writership ter his son ; his knowing the Bev. Mr. Bailey, a brother-in-law of a.Pitettlor a the name of Parry, of Berners.street ; . Mr. Bailey said he con.' ceived he bald interest with his brother-in-law to ob- - lain that, and would commute it fora living; Bent purchased an advowson tor him ; , and 1 - have understood, that Mr. Parry being called upon for his norninatiett, declared what his motives- werein giv iug Mr.'Bent's . son the Writership; and that 4 . 04 approved of by the Chairman; who rose, when he was called upon r ; ) assent or disient, and prodoC,4, an anonymous letter, declaring he mast dissent. to his appointment, as belief(' an anonymous letter in his hand,' that this Gentleitian's father had adver. tised, ciffering money. Mr. Bent °tiered to make an affidavit, that he never had dune any-thing of.the kind.; but, however, it was fatal to !he , upvoint ment ; and this disgusted toe so much, th.lt I thner • attempted any thing more. Do you know who *as Chairman at that time ? No; this was ten yearti ago, very neatiy . , 1 think, if not Are there any other transa6..l; ons re a ing o Gast India Patronage, in which you have been concern. fed None relating to Cadetships'?-None. Did ,Mrs. Groves refer you t9 .. auLh*ody of whom you might inquire 'whether she wa. the person she pretended to be ?...-No ; but sh'e - seerird to know Mr. Nowell, or rather, on explanation, their COWn nexions were acquainted, Do you know what Witted her to apply to yon ? In consequence td'an that I hadin' • sorted fora 1 think that must be the case, because it was a note f rt;ecived, addreSsed to requeitiug call upon her, ,or NO 27 Charles- street - i upon the writer, ut ,in to was subsequent to ILl'Duagall's and Donovan'ai, 'maim' a twelvemonth. .. • At whose iemtiest did you insert this advertise -merit in the newspaper 1-4 have ho tecolledtitin,- but I • ccilip4iVe it .was in con;egnenee of knowing that !sir. Nowell wanted a Wiati.f..itiip, -as titett iris :talon took place ~t.eiy alter. • • Have yott ttny now to' think that if ,'the Administration-Itadinot been .ohanged ,- at the, tittle you mention, this appointirent4ould have bran * proeured throu;ii the interest of Lard - Caitterenh 'fhe only ati....;wer'T can' 1114 e to '11 .! 1:11 Groves, ,aisureci,Me Jitat• the 9oly another Court would not be ;held. in order to e*L't the ;‘ 'Have yon' to letter of Mrs. GrOves's in yuittn* session ?-000 note' I have, it addreosed top. b. at a bookselier's.in , Do yon knoW that to be the. hand-writing of the Lady who , spoke •to YOU uhdet , the. DALOC liti Groves ?--No; I 'do nor; but I think L haVeanaher • Lit of paper %vitro) by her. 'LILA you saw her write ?--4 do not reeolled to have seen 'her .writs!. , orlogoa DAVls—(nelt tiny.) Have you brought those letters.whieli .you•men tinned pAtertlay F—Yeb ; I have beeri - tha!tinglitist diligent learch lot . Mrs.. Groves's all'OtlytllOUs desiring ine'to van 'at charliiii!.weet, -without effect ; but here is' a tiote.tihe sent me by my servant, SWCI t r Oli note I Wrote to her; would appetir,494.l . that; as. if I lhid written a I,6te to Mr. Realign, but I did not; the note referred .to must 'tuive dressed to Mrs. Groves. I recollect Mrs. Grosse: calling upon rne a'no informing into ine was mUtlio- 91 . Lady •Wastioeitih, . Was that in your first interview wiih think it w as. • , • • Have you any . other-note, or paper which you suppose to be Mrs. •Uroveh!ti irytta.uri,in ?—..1 do nut think I hive ; I have maaeli ii,l!zetit excrete, i but do itiOt think I • • tHR 1l US. A. C.l3itiklltiii'A • Arc you tomunlaitil Mr 4. Groves's hand wining ?—I tlitio, I am. • • Is it Grove or Groves-?—Mrs7 Jtiferiei Grove. '1)o youtielievit tint to be h.ir li,,nd , kv slung (the tote produced" by' &ft. vis) ? I ant triite'd,Aibtfni about it ; she in general wri very 1.14 . ge ii3nd in deed, and a very - kirte.tl stiff hand: • f Avai I , lolt-itit for some: of her letters to-day, . but findahey ,ire in the country,' about I wenty' Wiles tforn town, where 1 am going on Saturday j I itaPertnaie , .;in..town ; hut if I were to give an opip . ;on, I - rtAiy do not think it htir,hand-writing, 4;10 yct I positively sa:'/ the mati'3 mime at the licitd of lA, krIoN 1410 WA* unfortunately, - acquainted .v,ititf , lleadin - g, a . man' I WHS very near, 0 it was , the sattic s"in W died OOf a house by, and several 'other : , 4,•whers or the House; antottgit the -rest, Giles been very neAr 'swi*i)eci the same wity.hy.the mute o nip, a man tvilOtit;l:liS itilieats in Parliament, which initkes me . donbtfol, ateto ;the writing ;' her's i, a i , ery large hand in getteral,.lcari slr r the Comunttee sevetal of tier letters, • • Could yott, by taking that and comparing it with wine 0 1 her wrlthl, give a nfore occut . .,,to opiniou upon 10-44 think I could fifil)ly • whcie I-know there Ore Jettera of heed, and . cQklisi verinivo get better information against te.meirrow ; that Ley came to toxn and fudged at the house of Mr. Dui, pavan, and throjgh that Mr. Donovan b: c ime' Acquainted with Mr. Reading; and innumc able instances.of the tramc of these two Gentletwn I could - communicate to the Committee. (Mr.pavik.) • recolleEt the anonymous note . I recived was WO large band. ITe becentheffed.]. ,v,, t ~~,., .. MAILS. Do•z—s Cottenburgh, i 2 Waterford. PRICE OF STOCKS yttts Y AT TWILLV t Q'CLOCKe Consols . 68 6l Red. Ann. . . . 6yik THE SUN. soLem QUI4 Diem ►ALLULt At/O'AT ! LONDON, <ViDNESDAY, APRIL 1% 180 g. SECOND EDITION. SUN-OFFICE, RALF7PAST, TWO O'CLOCT, 0 . M. 'We stop the Press to state that Cai)tain Parmc • arrived, about half an hour ago. at Lord CAs.rLr: 114 A 0 M ' S Office, with dispatches announcing the Sur' render of Fort .Bourbon, and, of cour se ) the final rednaioO of Martinique. A Naval Officer attiV ed, at-4he same time, at the Admiralty, simi!ar intelligence. It gives us the most sincere pleasure to he able to state; that this most important Conn nest was effeaed with very litileloss on our pa-r. sr, t (in as the Batteries which 'll4' been raised against Fort Bourbon began to play, thei kept up so tremendous a fin!, that in a few ,dal! the French I,vere cirvM from all their guns.' The. Cipito ation fitted on the 27th. of Febroary. det:,ils %sill be published in en Extrao.rdinlri. Ga;ette, tlus ertning or tolnorrow morning. IMPORTANT INTELLIGENCE FROM t • d e .gt...ict, has been recetv,e l d at the miralty, of the surrender of -Vigo to the 'Spani sh Patriots, and his Majesty's Frigotes the . Lie?ly and Pilafs. The Frefieb COnsiiited of 160 0 men, and Otficers, who all laid amyl) t h ei r arm; befzire C. Ipt.:MACRINLV, and the them ore now on their way to Et)11 13tl • • The French Al4,tatt , dhest, and avuut 45C1 • d of lirrses were in_ Vigo . when it surrendered. ' greater part of course, fell into the hands of the Cotors. very grail inteniwmce 11 , ill also ;ppear the Gazette Extraordinark : ' In addition to to above, wo 1 13v e 1 .1 50 t he ple. sure ot r s`tming, tlth Ate/ hir .e ecit received front 1)1.; dittd "'.tit 111ard 4 tli:it . tlio'G,irriiott of Villa' Ffancn had stir' rendcici to Lim, mid thltt he was advancing; to Al torga- . , We have receiveci Spanish. Papers. to the 'ult. but they (.lotiot, Contain any accounts that co" Ceniidereci as interest lie in a military 1)0' 111 °f view. The French probalywill remain: on the de jenlite,iFt SPAth, while they are• ear,ryillg o n their Olin of lavailon ant of the , o vate Letters,:howierar, butte,: that' t h e F renc h hove pbtaind some forol4r .iaccOsisef, in Catalonia. The :ptfic9r *bow. arrival tti.Urn .Spain and Put : togaL rn4ntiyne.l yesterd.iy, was col. /toActt : tie µ'a s tb " Alearer of Dispatehei from the SupreMe.Jatitil which : weonde:stand ar.: 'of a Moot, oat; native. 11\e Su plcue Junta' D-u iO th t NI-in-li in the name of FE NA VII. it llBl l l . °Cl - e ; f Iha heroic g,arriso9and intiabitogo 4 for their vxtraordinary valonr and persevtl in Ff . dtteiice of tinit pLice, Tile Decree gt 30 5 thu Ji C:l hy the Otim-, defer,...lers and tiwir 13f ants, promotes ad theliiiicc:ri, and riot l ViOtS 10 the milk 04,4 p. ) t.. t .t jt arii,' c senlr r - 0 14.40 • fopmciinttitmilohi tor years,. an d -1 forth varitiu*ineitettients to es;oal siialoqr ()di ': parts of Spain. Yeiterday morning NI A JEsTy, Prineegit tW 4 T A y 111 V N l3, (4 ‘' llih 6 ra s ; j , CirW it, N1A.1%; N 3f11:4, }P . 2,1):!, JO , Cuurlt M NST It'. it, eihki COI. TA? 1.0.14. , tik art 11111 1 sCri - l'Ak, and rvturocil at - halt-_past Peace. A Cabins t cqutull;was hvld y,e4orclay`ot tha reign Office, .all tht. Member* iiz town wore gent: They Slit from t w'o till five o'clock. iq The,with, toth, several other regimet"' the Ewoerli Aistria, have receive!' uriteri to p re P a tortie.4.liately for 4rreice, of Tile Drorv. Lane Cotormy, by the inelolg enc ` c M ,. r ,;. :1 1 1A 4 1. s c , it a a l r l A c . l d w k l i t o:1 ;; ; I n i t jtanidicae of tilat l • :v fiViAt;. sivtl