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1 . , I.•the beech Deere,: leel beee se rigorously put in 0 ['reel - ice. Lord ERSKINE ..-, eoreended, teat () et no lie could.he ' exposed to danger-by granting the infortnetiop eidled '''' ' for, The information moved ter wee; Merely, that, of • - bare leas, without' thew-polies a ,er places Ofebode of those by whom they were eeserted, to have takee piace, The knowledee of ilietse ',Vets would preve the e .... ~. . MCCssity of the Orders in Council :- without 'i r, there ' w .e .. no woof or that i,c,,,,ity.. • - The LORD CHANCELLOR cotitended,•Ce- the •.,, other hand, that granting the heel elation of the pate teular ates'r el' ~ night lead to a discoyery of those by. • wle an information of thee) had been corn eitinicatetl.. Besides, Noble Lords bad not been speaking strictly 1 ,''':i •to the Motion which called for Extraets of such in -1 ': e.rutitien, '.,:c.; and reed the Mot iee to p?oye that .: the observations he hadjniir !wale!, by no Meansap plied to the words of the Motion. ' 'File question was thee pet rn Lord GRENVILLE's INlotiou, and the House cdivich .. t (.ements, -- - - present '27, proxies2o i. i Non-Contents .- peesent'23, proeies 15 • ' Contents - • - -' - 47 , 1 . , I\len-Coetents - - - 30 1 ~ Ma'ority for the Motion - - -e;i) e'i '' . Lord GitENVILLE teen proceeded to Move-for the' I a it,:f .capers tending to the sameebjed, and his'lll6- thins were agreed to without a division. De Nisei et,Eree. :. The Order of the Day wes next teed, end Lord Sl7)/110U/ /../ rose to, make his prOPeSed Motiou respeelitigthe destin at iOn of the Danish Navy ri,w in our "pessession. nut before hesentered off , ' • the grounds on' Winch he intended to 'support, his ;, • motion, the Noble Lord moved that the Clerk do' read the Nociatuation issued by our Naval and Mi .. Peary Commanders on their arrival before Copen-, ) 2 , hagen, The Clerk hat ink; read, it accordiegly, Lsrd SIAMOLiTH again rose, rind proceeded t o comment on the sentiments with which the Forces at his Majesty professed to approach the Danish ca , pital, and the terms proposed by our Commanders', . upon which the two Governments were to remain not only in a state of amity, but be bound together iii h tet h er bonds .of union and alliance. The plea upon which they grounded. the demand they made °Cale surrender olthe Danish ,Navy,,wes that cyan urgent . ' indispensable, but cruel necessity. , The opinion he entertained of that necessity he had already de- , dared in his place on two occasions. It was an ; le opinion that remained unaltered, and as .:far as he could see, would remaitreanatterable. The ne cessity had not yet been made out to his satisfae e , , lion. There would be nothing in the motioe he' : - should this night submit to their Lordships, in the least incompatible with his former opinion upon th Danish Expedition ; , and even had he voted with I lie majority on the two occasions to which lie , head al - beled,still he should think himself at li4erty to make l i i. ; prs t rit ru nt ion. ,The que,stion of the necesSity of .dzing the Danishieet had, nothing to de' with it. i 1;y the Proclainationa isseed by our („:urutottudel r 's they offered tO stipelaneand pledge the filth of their coverement, that it trie 13 ; iiiish Govc'rlimint cod . seated to surrender the Danish fleet, aud 'deliver it Op into their hands as a deposit, it t,hotild be kept slid preserved is such, to he restored tii Denmark at the . , eeeetesidu of - definitive pietee, in ,as.t?,oii-da it;tte as t, f;, that: in_whiel'. they bad reCeived it; Now the oh' i ct,',l ot•his inceien would be to "'educe the f1t,, , 1.151: to V,iVi..! it . i fi th e ir opinion, that GoVerritoeni should an in stria cotltorruity with I he letter 0110 Siill it of these Pro c h t - , That iO ll 3, and religiously 'redeem the pledge they had given. It whs clear that the Danish fleet we., token by us as e deposit, and not es a, ereperty of which . . • ' we bed a right to di9pose. )i ). e.t it would now appuir that Government 'hail (I(loP:the:et to use the D wish . . navy us 4 property. This determination Wes ot pub . . he notoriety. kle had hiMaelt seen a Paper that hall • beee'laid upon the, table .ef the other House of Par liament, from which it appeared that the Danish ships . J h;td been syeeyed by, order of ,Government, as a, pre timinary strip to their being etripleYed in hie M - ajei ' 'tit; service. Such a condleft in his mind was utterly irrecencilteible with theepirit of the 6onditiOll3 upon which it was taken pesseetion of. He would repeat it again. The Danish fleet wits surrendered as a de- posit, and not as a thing that Was to be' ma d e a pro pert), ot. This .disth&tioti, and the ditties. it im posed, were' creel - 1y laid down by the beSt4riters en the Law of Nationi, Ile would refer their Lord- ilbips''on this head itethe celebrated autiiineofs'De .lure Belli et Path, and from thet weirk ` t f r te,i ti.otild see, that what was surrendered tiia deposit, s ee s noele be converted into-Wie 'O4 a property, w ee_ out the most e.,.trerne . necessity. • On l •thop r ,,. , sent occasion, there 'was rib necessity of an y Li t id to jtigtily the tisC' WC were going ,to ainke, of the Dani;ih ' ship s ...:... te e ; ree . e „, e e. • lib should net call ir, ';"" ' e 'b et ( 1 ., , e '.. i1 )et TNUStI for •he - leer it tre.Tl i'llt - hcirit", , " titm %/AI ieh »t : coed most impli.2itly rely, 'lett ae . er A l e thereielitetee coeld give the atnsh;ehipit, eie,-.1 . all ' the time, labour, and expeoce, we WCre proceedleg, , ee.;. l to - bestow upon them, they would i tiei!er b e,s •iiit,ter : - • ''''''''' :thi, wear turd wet' e'' llikCi"..!i releit-Tfilieat t49....." 1( )T"'7' e l 4-:,,,,,'.'rendlatiour so ereployed . would be tues!emtirovidelet-: .eer, e l f etee emi eoeed t el..tat it the same sum of motie,y aed ee eeee3l W ete i rTh‘: out 'O9 the repair ef i trit . ish, ships itOw hewer drelovearid completing t,ho:.te'neW on the se ‘e I ei, a tench terve mid e Ire el ieteoite4l4ce Wei:lid: 1 . ,, i , ur0t341 04.4 it, Aridliit- tieter 14:44efierVieee - theft 46 rtlirtgi*lt' ei enyvepe lice - ceeld'keer be made of tho'nao6virbi l ig. Thele,),4, the piN%intert , st ) , as Welt as the public faith emd le/Pour, sl t fei'ld'i f fillsitailer Ge,v‘enmetit from convertie e the llleiih r itilvy to British use. II I was ieelle at a loss to corticaure ' ' ttpoti ...vhat groncids 3,l;nimera - wOold'eOt t (lll4ll4,l'jgtlt et' thus employin; Ihe . Danish shlesein'Tee kitisll ervice. He heeee of hilt one, and liereq4enoibling .hleiselt"to believe that such .. a ;0'64846614 t>e, se ' ricinsly set up, as the refteed of the Crowd Nike to ' i 11ifY 1 Ile Capit id': iti'i)ll, Wtgild lUbte Nati elak e , . }.o allowance for the teelities - of that exalted person , age on such an oketesion ? S . Vonld they rteidire I n to - to, ileike a saclifireetiflhi i homier, by"compelling'hini - 'to beeone: e part :in that trees:talon ? • Must 'they not recall to- &Mod Cite te e : eie f re pl y e t - ttp.:., com mit:e'er of Cepeeleieen le our sot - mous 7 10 'stir ' :retake... 7 e ii' We ,ere pieced (he says) leetweeletianier :iml di:l/bemire mid -there can be no choice for the Dee ...-, It was impossibie then- thee , tleeCrowil fe'ir. ; 0," pl.leed kr ti e . situation .rn which he stood, eee', , ; breee hilieielf to redly wheelie. cleetiled:a'dis'i• neer. 'L'e's retesel on his pare to ratilyethe•capi . I ,41,&011, IS thct e(orc co ittstitietitiou of our depart i:l,,, I,Otu the spirit of our first engagements, and I n , „., ehkiog use of the Iheisn vette as a property, instead of, preserylng Os a deposit., - Tlieir LordshipEi r d to tiptite EKertttive,,,,povernwint; - 147testtoi:4* still feel the impulses of their rectnt :devotion.. It .Lis t\f: - . - i , ;ty's , Miiii!Ors wet* pe , tualks i . IA was hut yerdetay they had prostrated themselves ht- -; their ground 'Of deface on thitstityj di, Ft th ur le fore the Almighty to invoke his' blessings an OUT !. deelared r that thgy w.ttejustitkid it their att. a l • . ... , Power that Were they seriously anxious I o draw down at'i unbtiending Power, gytheinfilni :. y uof thatt - Power that blessing on orir al-61s and our - cattle ;if they to resist' the influence of li'mnee ; i hen they main. were,they might begin by being just, and P!terve it. tallied it by a reference to pretended Secret Articles If they valued the honour .andeliar,t;:ler of the min- in the 'Treaty of Tilsit ) - and 'Tiai tli - 4 .- c - a7finaM• try, this was a moment to . shew Chetir anxiety to pre-' that-it was rendered necessary by the hostile'disposi ser,rethem both unstained. All the triumphs which tion pt Deurnark towards this Country. Inc; did not the genius or the fortune of the Ruler Of France had , helieVe that this hostile disposition e‘er existed ; he obtained ; all the glory, all, the laurels,' which his believed that the Crown Prince of Denmark had been exploits had won, would be nothirg io his eyes.,. most fbully calumniated; and•lie took occaSion,:to Compared with, the triumph which I c now labours 'deprecate the cowardly pra6tice, too common in this to obtain over British 1 .. iit1.1 and honour., over'the yeti Country, of throwing on FOreign Princes (in what ootarnished lustre of the British thoraatr. It was ever w'jy ihey,might have attained to that:dienity) not the extent of the population Over which he the imputations of the most base and unworthy de-' ruled, that we had .most to attend to and to tear, lieription, but the spirit and opinion , by which that population Lord RAItII6IVE Y defended his Majesty's Mi might be actuated. Let the lathe of Britain, con- nisters 'frOtu the accusation of having ,shitted the time lair in their 'eyes, and. they will continue to re , - i grounds . ot, whiclt they had defended' the . justice'and vere us ; once polluted, 'that veneration is gone, and policy of . the Danisti Expedition. The .faet ‘i'aB, v they will soon cease to fear whom they begin to de , that the proofs of that justice and policy were. so - spise. These considerations he felt, extretnAy de- numerous, that in arguing on the subjeia',•if was sirous to impress upon their, Lordships' minds.: he . impossible to enolnerate them all, and consequently also wished them to recoilea the concluding para. that might be considered an abdndonraitt of - motives; graph of the Declaration in answer to that of Deti s which was merely a' statement of additional oats, inark maclB in his Majesty's name : there theywOuld tThe Nohle.and Learned Lord oppmite, at the mo see it was his MRjesty's wish, that the stvord slrould 1 ment that he contended that the just ificat;on of the he sheathed as soon as the necessity ceased:that corn.. measure had' nothing to ciO with 'the que:,titlo befbre• pelted him to draw it, and that hostilities should not the liouse, Lttered a vioient c e n 4 or e: ag;l i ns i it. 'rho he'pfotraCted beyond the limits' oft that necessify.— Learned Lord bilked of coquetting; he might be ad:. Didsnch a necessity nuts exist as to compel us to ens dressed in the lines used to a coquette of anOther Oly th'e Danish Navy in the British service, and to f (I , 2seription ? . deviate from the conditions to whieh the oatiim* <. Thu' you migllt have a tight to dissemble your love, faith, anci honour have been solemnly plighted—if ss Yet—why diet you kick us•down ti ii i , 2 , V. not, their Lordships could not hesitate to acntue.w.e in the motion with which he should now have the honour' to coodude..—His Lordship. then moved " that it •is the Opinion of this Honse, drat it is for the honour of his Majesty's Government, and of this Country, to preserve; the Danish Fleet in a state eventually to be restored the_ same cpndi'. lion in which it was taken, conformably to the spirit of the different stipulations. into which the British Commanders entered to that died!' .Lnrd AQIUNGDON contended the seizure of : the Danish Fleet was justified upon every principle cif policy and necessity. , Independently of the friendly disposition of the Crown Prince totawds France, and the certain information that had been received of the 'fleet being about to be placed at the'dispiasal of France, M be employed against this Coanny, it was impossible for Denmark, were she even inclined to remain neutral; to preserve her fleet frora falling lute the hands of our enemy ; and even ► upon that principle, the ad of preventing its being so employed apinst us, was of, itself a sufficient jUB - of the measure.. Our condu.. in capturing the Spanish frigates in the year t 805, was itidispu s tahly justifiable upon every principle of sound policy, a 5 was aiso 'Otif possessing ourselves of the Toulon Fleet at the commencement of the last war; and his : Lordship argued that both these cases, the former in particular, bore, in point of principle and polity, a ,strict ':resemblance to that of the : Danish Fleet. His Lordship argued the principle at sotnelength, and :chewed that our honour was untarnished, while our means of security were inereased,and cow;luded by declaring himself against die motion. Lord JaLE4V.I4OIiOI2O,I observed, , that the resemblance which the Noble Lord discovered t; ; ,:. tween the seizure of the Danish Fleet and the cap.' titre of the Spanish frigates, or the cession Of the l'eulon Fleet, did not in reality exist. Although the* House was not called ots by the present mullein' to' approve or disapprove of the Danish ExpeditiOis . , yet he should think hiniSelf disingenuous and suss candid, lie Should think that hetoquetted with the Muse,' and the public, if he did not distinctly des dare, that in his opinion the name, charaEter; and honour of the Country ; had been more completely sacrificed In that transalion than in any on the an nals of; our history. It was a transaction which it was impossible to reprobate too severely. That il lustrious person, the Crown Prince of Denmark, had beet most unjustly slandered. Il u t th e measure was justified on ,the ground of its necessity. NO necessity for it existed, except, indeed, that kind of necessity which Was often pleaded at the Old Bailey. But for the sake of argunient, that the necessity existed to the extent assumed by hi s u s _ jesty's Ministers, surely indeolnification ought to be made when that necessity ceased to exist. His Ma joly's Government were very much deceived if they did net exited, whatever :night be the event of the war, that the restitution to Denmark of her fleet would be insisted en 'by the Continental Powers as the ,sine qua non of peace. Let us therefore deter niltiev that den- fleet should be kept in the same stme:ttli :thee - , th which' it was when it came into our passession. ' Let us determine by the vote of I/IN:Alight; to remove one' great impediment that, must:tulle:wise nbstrud the return of general tran quillity. , ''lre LORD (741ACELL(474 in reply, main taieed that his Noble Friend was justified in adducing,lfie'ciplufe n ' of the Spanish frigates, and the cesgio of the French fleet, as precedents of the justice of the seizure , of the Danish ships. Did not this country also in 1185 take possestsion of the Dutch marine on principle'?- As the Learned Lord had chosen to.charatterize the Danish Expedition in. terms of such severe censure, he would say, that as one of those . by whom the measure was taken, he was con . Yir444 that it. W 20,3 most : wise and justifiable measure, an 4 that, had it not been adopted, his Majesty's Mieliters, would liztee, been justly liable to, all the re prOacties the Learned Loyd showered upon them. Vier reSped to the propriety of restoring her fleet to Deimiark at any future period, he contended that by the Declaration Of War whidiDenotirk had issued, sitf;; . had for her claim to be considered as a nett- tral by 'ele6t Britain, and that her'ships 'Were un questienably liaule to he 'condemned as good prize., Lard HOLLAND, ,in very seam in terros, repro bated the conduct of his Majesty's Ministers, both for the Expedition itself, and 14 theirrefusal to ac cede to the Noble Viscount's Motion. Ho maintain ed, at considerable length, that the .attack on Co penhagen Was Most atrocious' and uncoiled for by any consideration of policy; but wore' ire' to allow that the reverse wits the faCt,.to what did the MOtion of the ::,;eble Viscount tend? nierely:to.reconnteutt that the Danish Fleet shoeld be kept , in such a state; that it might be restored , not initnedbtely, tint the eonclusion of hostilities, not at any defined p e - Lied, but simply svhenever It ishuuld be thought pro- He opposed the motion of the noble Viscount, ,be cause, instead of giving facilities in the 'negotiation fora peace, he was of opinion it would fetter Uovern-; merit, and prevent them from Obtaining, the terms they might otherwiSe secure. The arguments of the noble Lords went too far for theirTurpose, ler if they prOved any thing, they 'proved, not that the Throislaleet.should be kept in order, that they might be restored at some subsequent period, but instantly without delay. • Lord ERSKINE argued at eetisiderable length to shew the injnatice anitinipolicy of the Expedition to 'Copenhagen,.and the expediency of agreeing-to the noble Vi count's motion. . He concurred • with his noble and learnedli`riend on the Old Bailey kind of necessity urged ie its defence. Add with respect , to eventually retainingahe fleet in our posSession, it was __surely impossible we couldahinkot doing so afterthe Declaration made to the Danes,.in which it was stilt,. ed, that their fleet was required a, a " deposit" in our hands. Were we to attempt ultimately, to keep them, we should. net like a man who, from appre hension of being attacked . by thieves, should seize a fowling-piece from a neighbour who was. too weak to resist him, and afterwards point the identical weal On to its master's breast, and go out sporting ivith it for a whole seasoft. , His learned Friend had been accused of kicking Ministers doWn stairs in the de bote. This he had not done, for the former discds alotiS oil this subje& bad long left them at the bot tom.- He congratulated himself that he had at least entered aselenin protest against the measure adopt ed by Ge,:ernment, and by that means escaped tliu .'cessation of being , a partner in their guilt.. Thia Country had formerly been the day-star of Enrope.. To her Europe had looked for an -example of sheitty fidelity, honour, and adherence to the law of nations.. If from this proud eminence she should be hurled .by the criminal conduCt of his Majestyls Ministera, we shotild irrecoverable sink into the gulph of. ruin. and infamy, and no one would say " Gbd bless es." Lori? IVESTMOBLA opposed the motion of the noble Viscount, and deprecated the condual of that eighth, wonder of the world, the last Admini stration, who having by their weak councils and . in aetion placed the Ceuinry in a state of peril, censur ed' the wise and energetic, measures of his Majesty's present Governmect, by which we hail been rescued from the danger.'" The neeessity.of. the steps .taken by us Was notorious. His Majesty, in his tnost gra cious speech, had' declared intermation of that ueccs shy had been received by him ;• a declaration which, constitutibually.speaking, ought to have been receiv ed without hesitation. This information could niat . be communicated to Parliament . , but did it follOw that the EXectitive,Government were not justified aefing upon it ? If the Executive 'Government Were restricted from eating but on information they could communicate to the Government, ibis Counts y might sobri beciame like the wrestler so beauti fully de scribed by Demosthenes, who, instead of defending himselefrona blows meditated against him, was oc cupied in guarding against blows already struck. vri • r Lord 5e.,1.1 Itk'suppOrtea a_ Ustwith standing Ins approved oi the fr EXpeditioo, as he did not conceive us worrantedin retaining the ships. Lord RED ESDALE argned against the principle of the motien. .Denmark was hostile to us, and to return - the fleet Would be to afford her the means Of rendering her hostility etfeaual, and of throwing her naval strengthinto the arms of France, Lord D. eIRNLE I' supported the motion.. The proposition ought to be acceded to, not only from' a regard to good faith, but to the interests and security of the Country. • . Lord MA GRAPE could not but look on the motion as alt attempt to cast a. reproach and stigma on the Atinainistsation who had conceived and .cm ectued the Expedition, anaChievement, which, when duly considered, as it had beets by the *est, men in the country Was acknowle3ged to have in it e ver y thing that .could constitute a great, signal, and most useful service. Viewing the motion in thatlight,. he should give it-his decided oppositiOn. Lord GRENVILLE argued iii favour of the mo tion, and contended that , the restoration of the rivet 'wouldtend to conciliate a Power whose affea ions We had alienated. Lurd,lLl IPKESI3UtiY replied to Lord Grenville, and Showed . that independently of the fact of an ud derstandiug between Den Mark and France, the for mer had openly manifested a hostile disposition to wards us b e f ore the E%pedition 'was iniderta);(ll. lord iSM.,IIO/271 . 1 weak a short general lel)! after (in idud : Confehrs li, Proxies at)---- 4 t Nou-coMents - 6i , Proxies 44----toa Ma3ority _against the Motion - Adjourned 'at Two 'clock this morning. _--:~ ~ irOtISE, b` Jlii ITv ?vr's. _ - TlitniStiliY, FEB, I. . • A t ornititteOwaii appointed, by ballot; to try the merits of the Nottingham Petition. The following Gentlemon ate on the Committeei— I. H. C. Caveti4ish, Esq: Hon. I.•locelyn/ ~,.4...X.rstmliiiicy—Etirfr--; •-- - Sif , Wlll.. kllMOOratree. I. lioircyd, Esq. - Oliver ‘vyripc, P..sq, Sir Patrick Murray, Bart. T..Gttici.trilt - liiiqb .- Edwaro Morris, -E59. , (. T - Tuut, Esq. A all. IL iloldworth, - Esq. L homas Thompson, Esq. i. 'E. %V. Maule, Esq. NoxirsErs: Thinirascrzcycy, Esq.- Sir john Atastruther s Bart. The House was then ordered, to - be,called over on Tuesday next, and the several orders respeEting De faulters renewed for that day. • Sir JOHN LUBBOCK presented a Petition from the) CoMpany of Merchants trading: to the Levant—. Ordered to:lie on the table. • Mr. Secretary Ctisititrw presented from the Bar several Official Papers, pursuant to Order of the House; which were ordered to lie on the table, Mr. Secretary Canning intimating that the Papers were, printing, and Would - very shortly be ready for de livery to the Members; ARMY ESTIMATES. The Saciteri*Auy at WAtt presented the Army E4titnates fir the year IsoB which were ordered to lie ost the table ; and, on the suggestion of Mr. craft, to be printed. The Secretary at War then gave'notice, that he . should move these Estimates in the Conitnittee of Supply to-morrow, (this day) • ... , OIiDNANcE ESTIMATES. ll'iTcina • Thetice Estimates were presented by Mr. ASMICY Coor.ett, who, atter moving that they 1U on the.table and i.)e printed, gave notice, thii he Would move them to-morrow (this day) se'onight. A Person from the Commissioners for Regulating the Offices about thy; House of Commons, present* :ed certain certificates from Oern; which were order edto lie on the table. Mr. W. TAY Lott god notice of A motion this, day se'nnight, rdative to the carryiug.of specie from the :Sparikh Colonies to this Country. Colonel Wool) gave notice of tt Motion for to morrow (this.day) relative to•the amount of Forcer Naval an&Military, employed on the Expeditions tc the Dardanelles'and to Alexandria. GEOR . G Ft ,PoxsoNEYOve notice, thatiw to-morrow (this;ilay) make ,a motion for Papers, to shier what itiforrtation had been received by his,. Majesty's: Ministers, of the 'increased rigour alluded to io the Orders of Council with which the' Renc.lit 'Decrees had been 'latterly enforced. , . Ordered, on the motion .of Sir TrtontAs that the. Order of the House of the 2 Ist of July; ksol, respeling the Peligars, be renewed. Also, ()tribe motion .of Mr. DUNI)A9, the:stirerai Orders f of the House, of tbe 7th of August, relative td nctia affairs; were revived. • Ordered, on the niutioti of Sir THOSlX9 l reii) hit there be laid before the House an Account the atinar Amount of all ,Sums paid as tribute to thee. East India/Company, by the Southern and Western. Poligars,- bpeeifying the Sum paid by each lioligari Ordered, On the motion Of Mr. NVltvrsnitAY, that there be laid before the House, Lists of IA thes. Dank!, Ships captured and detained , previous to this_ 4th .of Nownber, t s • Mr; ilitimissors brought up she Bill for issuing the Sum of 10,1100,00 - in Exchequer Bills, for the, S'erVieo of the Year 1898. ne.ut a first time... and ordered to be.read a second time to-morrow. The Bank Loan Bill, the Unclaimed. Dividends' apd the. Bill for abolishing the Office of Petty Customer - of the. Tort of London; -each paseci. through a Committee, and,/the Reports were serea.' rally ordered to be received to-morrow. , 1 7 he American Treaty Bill was read a third , time,,: and passed. HS BULLER presented , certain,Papers front the 1-I . 'ol,C:cam of Admiralty ; which, were ordered , to lie oil , the table, and to he printed. Co i.DaATuf 071 . E1.Ds P luso N • • 'Mr. SHERIDAN rode to pre sent a Petition, which hq.held in his hand, upon a subject that he should recommend to the serious attention of the House, and'ofhis Majesty's Ministers: He wished partien., larly to address himself to . the Right Hon. the chem., cellos, of the Exchequer., as the circumstance of the' Home S&:retary being a Member of another House, rendered it impossible for him to address the head of the dePartment more iinmediatelycouneaed with tho subject to which the Petition referred.. The subject. was not •new to that • House, for in' the year J 800 be' had taken a considerable Shire with h worthy and Hon. 13aronot,whom he did not then see in his place, in th , inquiries- which' bad been made into the mci nagement of Coldbath-fi e ld s P r i so n, and v brought the, abuses in the government of that Prisnq t hich, under the onoideration of. Parliament. They bad, on that Occasion, cStablished the C' Me so, clearly, that the distinguished per Son, 'now no more (Mr. Pitt), who was then at the head of hig Majesty's Govern ment, was obliged to givd *ay, nod consent to a fish investigation of the whole trar7S34:t ion, Accordingly a Commission was issued. under his, Majesty's sign manual, appointin: Commissioner's, most of 1 twill Members of 'the Woose, /o prosecute the irtOrY , and aßeport was . made, which entered very rnuch,into thedetail of the subjea. Bitt unqeestionably the de tie or error of that iteport, was not, that it nogge' rated the abuse complained of in the interior adrnir nistration of the gm:1111E61u cif the - prisOm .1 3 . 0 found, however, that.the means recommended in the Repol.r, for the redreis of the abaqai.complairted'off had not been carried into effeel, nay, had been aban .doned; and, he Very much feared, that the abuse,. had' increased in conseqnence., The allegatiotis con tained in he Petitions he had not felt it' necessary: to inquire into, previous to his pr::3 , -:nting - it ',to the • Houk., bees use *be had recei Ved t Petition; from sncli a i - epect.able quarter; and upon such MO nu thority, that he could not entertain any• just doubts of , the cot reaness of the statements it COntained.--• 'fly: Petition was signed by Mr. Stephens, foretn"P' and 1 . 43:r the of her Members of the Grand:Jury of the County of iddiesex', as ‘!Vell as by Mr. Phillips, one' of the !F. : he:tin, a Gentlemm, who, infinitely - to his crtdit, applied hithself, with the most lauclatle zeal, gen ,? tii.,n of a!! the duties of his 'orduoes• could acsure the Right- Honourable Gotl-• ,!!t. that this 'muter was -not brought 111 ° Ie r : by v-ith any plitY the reiiir on e rc an y quell objett thei r ' contemplation. On the contrary, it h a d been b;i nraditie,. on entry occasion Whtin he h ad a