The Sun. — London, England, 1809-02-28 00:00:00

1 Mr. WttitiiiikAii tbotigM the flepoili ought la. have !) , ! , 2r) produced godlier than this evening;, and if the .Ntvy Estimates: were at 'all - dgpendent on any one or ahem, even Friday wbuld be too short a time for the proper consideratidn of the Reports, . TheCRANCELI,CiIt of t he EXCHEQUER said, there was nd question before the House ; but as the Re ports had been laid on the table so very recently as the present evening, and it was thought that one of them was at least material tciWards the due conside , ration of then); he would propose that the Navy Estimates should be taken into consideration on Fri= day fortnight. Mr. MARTIN, Mr. PULLER, mid Mr. P. MOORE each said a few words ; atter which The CHAIRMAN reported progress, and asked leave to sit again on Wednesday.—Granted. ' The Report of the Army Estimates was then or dered to be brought up, to-morrow. A new Writ was ordered to be issued for the Bo rough of King's Lynn, in Norfolk, is the room of Lord W a lp o l e , no w E arl of Orford. On the motion of Mr. BANKRE, the Serjeant was called to the Bar, and asked if he had any RkTort. to make to the House with respell to .1. Anthony Snee, r horn, h e h a d been ordered by that House to take into custody. The Serjeant stated, that the Messenger had called at his house several times, and could not find 'I It _l'the Messenger (Mr. Wright) was then called in, and Stated, that he had been in search of Mr. Shee ever since , the evening on which the House had ordered him to be taken into custody. He went on that evening, about . a quarter before seven o'clock, and being told that he might soon be ex petted home, waned till near twelve o'clock; ex petting his return. He called next morning, and was informed that he had not come home. He went again on the Wednesday and Thursday, but without success. H e then went to other apart ments which we.e described to him as belonging to Mr. Slice, where, he was informed, he carried. on the business of au Army Agent, under the name of Conner, but was equally unsuccessful. Mr. BANKRS then moved, that it appears to this House, that .1. Anthony Shee had absconded, in order to avoid being served with the Order of that Hodse. He then moved, that an humble Address be pre. Rimed to his Majesty, praying that he would be Pleased to , give orders tor the issuing of a piocla- Illation, with_ such reward as his Majesty might think proper, for the discovering, apprehending and detaining tho Said J. Anthony Oft, otherwise Con ! terokoOrdered. DISTILLATION BILL. The Order of the Day having been read for going into the further consideration of the Beport 91 the Committee on the Distillation Prohibition Bill, Mr. Folrait moved, that the Resolutions be read second time. Ski. NOWPORT adverting to the late division on this Bill, in w hi c h ' the majority was very inconsi derable, stated that circumstance, among othert, as * reason for re-committing the Bill, in order that 1 , 4 Merits might be more fully discussed than they bad hitherto been. He wished it to be re-commit. led for tne_purpose of extending the. prohibition to Veland. The 'tight Hon. Gentleman opposite had staid on a former occasion (as he was given to uti ritnanit). that lie would not propose the extension of the prohibition to Ireland, because it wes the natural disposition of the Irish to dtsobele the her. To Con tradiet this assertion, he would produce the testi mony of an old English writer of the highest reepec tability, Sir John Davis, who declared, that no peo ple were better disposed to obey the law than the rish, provided they were assured of equal justice.— But if there were a disposition to disobey the law, it did not exist exclusively in the lower orders, as he v i a_s_ lOW Will the 'statement made by the Itightilion. r r"tlettian.. The reports made by the Officers of .Iwise declared, that illicit distillation had been en tVraged t!) , the higher orders f or t h e purpose of en d ung their tenantry to pay their refits. The period it which the Bill of the last year was passed, and the Present Bill was under, consideration, were mate , r*ly different. In the former instance, the year eras so far a d vanced, that the quantity f grain iu the country, and its proportion to the consumption, could, with tolerable accuracy, be ascertained. That was not the case at present. Unquestionably a great good had resulted, in !rebind, from the prohibition of last year, by its tendency to increase the con dmPtion of malt l iqnors , and consequently to re the consumption of spirits. This was a strong Motiv e for its continuance. There were other very forcible reasons. Front the poit of Down it had. been distinttly stated, that if the distillation from !ern were persevered in, it must produce an alarm mg scarcity in the country. Nay, the Right Holt. Gentleman opposite had himself, not two hours ago, Itlleged, in the Committee of Supply, the increased price of provisions in Ireland as an inducement for :thetommikttle to vote larger seats to the different charitable institutions ; yet he the next morncnt sterile forward to • recommoud.- that the distillation from corn should be permitted lit Ireland, because provisions were not too high ! To whiCh of these 'two Opposite statements were the House to listen ? 1,!:.r himself, he was disposed to prefer the former, Is kb torn of Ireland was as much the corn 'of Great ith rlt t il l as the corn of Yorkshire) and if there was igiPPrehettaion of a scarcity in Great Britain, Ire- I. (Stitt nOt to be allowed to distil. He conclud- . / moving, that the Bill be re-committed. t. sir s POLLEIt thought, that of all the weak ques. 1 " s t his was the weakest. What I did his Majes. ties 1114144ra confess that they were unable to re- Plea With proceedings. If this were the case, and • . 14 . 1 46 proceedings were , allowed, he should hav e a good right to contend for a great body of his consti• tzeb!s along the costa of Sussex, who would also v ery happy to be indulged in a little illicit traffic; 4i MUnsters could not controul those who disob e y e d t t laws, at last they ought to be ashamed tif let- U,ng out such a secret. As to the Irish nation, they * v.! re a fine honourable people. The condua of the . " 1 „;$ 11 Members had been most proper and attentive. me wished . the two countries to be as one. With "%Pea to the Iris's in. Ireland, a greet deal bad been Said about their religion, and Other things that he knew nothing ofi for his part, be believed they s anly wanted catchin g and taming--(A laugh.) But Ilmv could they be caught and tamed if their spirits ire aggravated by the spirits which they were to ha allowed to distil, and which would make them than eVet. le thought the I he (Mr. t'.) ItAtfeect Nfiiinititd Of Sappiy that Bill impolitic and pdrtiali and would tlierefore move t evening to vote increased sums to pitblic charter for its te-doinmittrient. schools' on thd ground. Of the increased price bi _ . provisions. It was on the ground of the increased price of other articles beside.: provisions—of clothes; &c. If the present Bill were to hinder corn Cotuing from Ireland to England, he would not urge But it was only to prevent the veto from getting into the hailds of the private distillers, and thus ul timately fro+ insuring the morals of thec ountry: Nit one third of the illicit stills in Ireland had been seized ; and yet it was computed that by that otie third, no less than 800,000 gallons of,whiskey had been made in the month. t The quantity remaining cm hand of the foreign spirits which had been im ported into Ireland since last July, sufficiently evinced the enormous supply, from the private sills. Adverting to a statement made by an Hon: Gentle man opposite, that oats could not be obtained in Cumberland from Wexford under 375. a quarter; he expressed his surprise at this circumstantance, as he held in his hand an official return from Newry, (dire Elly Opposite to the shores of Cumberland), dated Feb. t t, in which the price of oats was stated to be 255. 2d. British, per quarter. In other places the price was somewhat less. An Hon. Gentleman behind him had talked of catching and taming the Irish. Part of them had been caught in the net of the Union. Did they require taming ? He wished the Hon. Gentleman would come over to Ireland, and see if the Irish were as wild and as violent as he represented them to be. On the contrary; he was satisfied, that although the speech which the Hon. Gentleman had made that night was tied about his neck, he might travel train one end of Ireland to the, other in perfe& security, and he was sure that be would everywhere meet with the great est hospitality. He denied that the Bill was any violation of the principle of the Act of Union, al though it might appear to be an infringement on the letter of it. • Mr. BROWNE stated, that to his certain knowledge conditional orders had been sent to his country from Ireland, to transmit thither very large quanti ties of grain, provided the prohibition of the distil lation should not be extended to that country. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHhQUER represent ed the improbability of such a circumstance,e it the Hen. Gent. meant that any but seed corn hail been FO ordered. For the price of grain being dearer in Great Britain than in Ireland, it was extravagant to suppose that it could be intended to buy in the dear market'for the' purpose of selling in the cheap. • , After a few words from Mr. Alderman Combe, Colonel Perry, and Mr. Barham, the question being loudly called ter, the gallery was cleared, and a di vision took place. „. For the Recommital - Against, it - The Bill was accordingly recommitted. IMPORTATION OF FLAX SEED. The House went into a Committee to consider of the propriety of encouraging the importation of Flax. Seed" into Ireland. , Mr. FOSTER, after stating that this was merely a temporary measure, which he trusted would lead to the culture and preservation of the article in suffi cient quantity for the uses of this country, proposed, that a bounty of ss, per bushel should be allowed' on the first 50,000 bushels of foreign flax seed im ported into Ireland from Bth March to Bth April, 1809. Atter some observations from . Sir T. Tartan, Mr. Rose, and Sir G. Hill, the Re4alution was agreed to, and the Report ordered to be' received to-morrow. The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at half past twelve o'clock. Sir T. Tuntoilt could not Perdeive sithythe -- pro , hibition shoilld not. be as extensive as it WAS last year: The prices acorn were ea high, the ports of the Continent . were as closely stmt. CoMmon sense and the justice of thecausedenaanded that the prohibition should be extended to Ireland.: By the Aet of Union it was declared; that a reciprocity of interestsiand a reciprocity of sacrifices' should exist between the two countries ; not that the landed in terest of t he one country should he upheld at the et pence of the other.. Adverting to the prices of grain on that day, he stated them to be as follow : wheat five guineas a quarter; barley, two pounds eleven shillings ; oats, two guineas, the quartern loaf was, fourteen-pence. Under such circumstances, if corn was as abundant in Ireland as it had been stated to be, be begged for God's sake we might have it here. There was great reason to believe that a considerable proportion of the wheat sown last year would be worth nothing.• It became therefore doubly incum bent on us to husband our present resources. He denied that,' in the measure of the last Session, the interests of'the West India Merchants.had been ex pressly consulted. The Report of the Committee toinvestigate the subjea had recommended the pro hibition of distillation from grain, on the ground of the scarcity of grain, not as a Ikon to the West India Merchants. As therefore.no boon had . in 'that case been given to the Welt India ‘Merchants, so neither ' was it right to-give:a boon to the landed interest of Ireland at the expence of the general interest of both 'countries. By such a Bill as the present, the 6th Article of the Act of Union would be violated both in letterrind in spirit. He felt pretty confident that he might with safety appeal to the Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer for England, whether lie did not on this occasion sacrifice his own senti ments to those of his Right Hon. Friend the Chan cellor of the Exchequer for Ireland. Mr. Hussar charaaerised the present measure as most extraordinary, inconsistent, and futile. The Bill of the last year did not originate in the distress of the West India trade, but in the scarcity of grain. At the same time he felt it to be his duty to pay a' just debt to the Legislature, by acknowledging that it had been most critically beneficial to that trade. The Bill before the House was composed of a va riety of heterogeneous propositions; which, like cer tain chemical qualities, when mingled, naturalized One another. This was a moment in which the ad vantages of the Union ought to be manifested.— Could it be believed that the law was so impotent in Ireland that it could not render itself respected ? He did hope, that if the unlicensed stilla multiplied like the heads Of Hydra, the Right Hon. Gentleman op posite would find strength enough to crush them. Why were they so numerous ? Only because the illicit distillation enjoyed superior 'advantages to the legal. Reduce those advantages, and the illicit dis tillation would cease. The sacrifice of a few shil lings a gallon in the duty on spirits distilled from sugar, would effect this desirable obje&, and such ,appeared 'to him the only mode of doing so with ed ge' antage. He trusted that the }lotto would'one do be, persuaded of the absurdity of interfering with le islative regulations on objects conneeted with grain or agriculture. Sir R. PRIME expressed his conviction that if the Bill was passed in lit present shape, the most fatal consequences might ensue. He wished .that the two countries might go hand in hand, and mutually assist one another. The North of England stood very much in need of the produce of Ireland. Owing to the depression of manufactures and trade, the people there were not half fed. The oats of Ireland would satisfy them. They • had hitherto COnducted themselves with great temper and pa tience ; but if they understood that a part of that which might be appropriated to their support was allowed to be consumed, not in the preservation but in the destruction of man, they, might probably not remain so well iatisfied. Sir A. WaLidisutz declared himself to be of opi nion that the people of England would not get a' grain of corn less out of Ireland, if the Bill should stand as it thew was, than if the prohibition were extended to the latter country. Grain in Ireland was much mote abundant than -in the last year. The price of provisions would show this, for though comparatively high' in the market of Dublin, it was Much loWer in Ireland in, general. If he thought that the, measure would bear hard upon Great Bri tain, he would unquestionably vote agajost it ; but being satisfied of the contrary, it iboulehave his cordial suppori. Me. CURWAK described the scarcity of oats in the North of England, and particularly iu .Cumberland, to be very great. They were not able to get them from Wetbrd.under 375. a quarter. He was de ttirous that the prohibition should. be extended to Ireland, and lie was. satisfied that it would not at all injure the agriculture or interests of that country. raur the purpose of preventing the illicit distillation, 4 reduction might be made in the duties on, thu i s%i u ri i i iti spirits distilled istilsletadtefr6oem thes e ug r ar 4nu ande such in the Pres ent t might well be mad e i n p re f erence to bearing sacrifice cr berd upon the people. He recommended that if t he.pre sent Bill should be passed, its duration should be' limited to two mouths, in order to'give time for an ample investigation Of the expediency of a mote permanent measure. Mr. PARNELL declared that the present Bill was a dire 4 violation of the A& of Union, and one of a nature Unprecedented since the passing of that Act. By that Ad,: a final and perManent adjustment of Commercial jealousies had been made, and the House ought to pause, before it cnaeted a law which dis tinaly violated that compd. Mr. Vomit replied to the various arguments that had been urged against the measure. He complained. that the Hon. Iliirenet opposite had misrepresented him, when he stated that he had said the people of Ireland naturally disobeyed the law. All that he had observed on that subjea was, that the lower orders, from theii; ignorance of law, field it in utter cont. tempt, and were guilty of disobedience to it. The Hon. Baronet had himself declared, that the higher orders were at least as apt to enequrage the infrac tion of the law as the lower orders to commit it.-- If therefore, he could for a moment suppose (which he did not) that such was the Hon. B a ronet's in. tention, he might Infer that' lie meant to extend the accusation of a proneness to disobedience, to a lunch greater split:N. The Um Baronet had Said. that - • 99 MAILS. DLit-0 Gottenburgh, z Malta, z Dublin, 2 Waterford. PRICE OF STOCKS ma DAY AT TWtt. V R O'CLOCK• Consols • • .• • 67 I Red. Ann. - • 61, THE SUN. 1110L1114 QUil DICIRS !ALUM AVbIIAT ? LONDON, 217111 DAY, FeBRUAItY 28 . , 1809. Wa have no furthe► information to communicate to our readers respeoing the Brest Fleet, and it is very probable that some days may elapse before any authentic intelligence respecting the course it has taken, shall reach this country. In the mean time innumerable conjeaures and speculations have been. formed respeaing its destination. . Ferrol,. Cadiz, Toulon, Martinique, and South America, have 'all been mentioned. We retain the opinion we ex pressed yesterday,' viz. that whatever may be the ultimate destination of that Fleet, it will touch at Ferrol first. It would be an objea of such great importance to Bo oNAPARTI3 to get the Spanish Fleet out of that port, that we think it Probable'that he .would risque the 13 rest Fleet to attain it. If there be any foundation for the reports which have reach ed this country from so many quarters, of Ole pro bability of at immediate rupture 'between Austria and France, and wo are strongly inclined to believe that there is, a very considerable proportion of the: French Army must necessarily be withdrawn from and in that case 81,10141APARTH would be corn pclled to relinquish the prize which he has obtained, v iz, the Spanish Fleet in Ferrol. It appears us, therefore, extremely prikable, that he may hive re solve►d to make an effort to get the Fleet away before the evacuation of the north-west of Spain by his troopt.. If this be his plan, we entertain the most sangUine briiptit that it ill be frustrated. Lord GA:eaten, we . know, had very early intelltgenee of the movement of the-Brost Fleet, and the Admiralty have made the greatest exertion to fit out another poWerful squadron, which we believe is to be placed under the command 434 has SAIMARBZ. 'the -S illo§ id the boirha 44 3iesterday tiidered, by a telegraphiti dispatch; to tali With all possible eipedition to Plymbuth And ad Order was received at Plyttiotith, m Saturday, for aft i;ine-of-battle Ships to put to Sea immediately, 1114 Centatir; Alfrrd i and St. Aiimies, sailed fr , )tt2 Pohl: mouth to join Sir It. STRAttIAt off Rochttfort,* Very great eitertionS haVe Beeii triads; rd.!. nh time past at Flashing, to equip the Naval force in that Port, and we ale asiniecl there are at present tip less than seventeen Sail of the Line; the gtk:ater part of which are in readlneas for Sea: Two more American *ess'els Wit arrived verpool, viz; the Example and the Missisipi. They are laden principally with cotton and tobacco. The intelligenee'thei bring is not of a more recent date than that: which had. previously rtitchtil We are happy to find by tome of the fast tettert froth Lisbon, that a very considerable number of the stragglers belonging ,to Sir JOHN Moona' Artny; who were left behind in Consequence of the rapiditt with which our Army retreated, ha've arrived in .Por tugal, and many of them hate even reached Lishoti: The Phetis Frigate is Appointed to col tot the' new Governors of Dernurara and Surinam ; the Thetis is at present ar Plymouth, but expeded to gv 'round to Portsmouth before she proceeds tO the Weit The conduti of the French hats been Wet-long wherever they have a ektended their power, that it is by ,no means surprising to find synipion3s of re.: sentment breaking forth in all those who have been released from their tyranny. The German liapct.ti give some indication of this sentiment, 'whiCh are nut unworthy of notice. It apprars, that during the Polish. war a gallant Officer, narnt , d ScittLL, was conspicuous in several resolute itallies from Colberg, which were not indeei4 important inithere result, but had at least the died of annoying the common enemy. This same Officer is now 'at Berlin;, and since the French evacuated that capital has been a great, favourite with the people in general, which has been demonstrated even by Milliners and ToY-meni who hare had their respetli%e articles de:igrtamd a la SOW, and such a popular imprinitztiii has...oc casioned an ample sale. Another instance of a dlr. ferent kind,. but proceeding, ftotti the same princi* ple, is mentioned in the same Journals. It scents, that shortly after Prussia fell into the bands of the French, a contemptible work, under the tide of Vertraute Bricfe, or Familiar Letters, .was published in their favour. This infamous production grossly flattered. the French, 'and basely maligned the old Prussian government, recommeading a partition 'and 'sale of the national property, as one of the best financial meaiures that could be adopted. As earn, as the French departed, the Anthor of this .despieo . ble publication, VON CoLax,''' who, to incierlie that enormity of his offence, was a Counsellor of'.War, was arrested in Silesia ; but what shows a greaten degree of spirit in' ttie Prussian Government than was to be expaied, the order for the arrest of this traitorous Parasite was issued before the French had aaually quitted that Province, and, according to its express words, was to take place when the enemy de. parted. These instances may be considered ns a test of the fe,:lings of all countries which the French have invaded, and the very circtilostaixe of their having been inserted in the Getman. Papers, may be considered as the attestation of a spirit . which wants nothing but opportunity to break forth in vigorous salon, against the Oppressor of Europe. The following is an accurate list of the Fleet whith sailed froth Portsmouth with the troops commanded by Gen. SHERBROOKE, under convoy of his Majesty's Ship. Mole, Capt.. LORING. This is an interesting document, especially in consequeneenP the disPer &ion of the Fleet t-- . Prince George,Leager, 8 guns, 308 tons, 217 troops; Bert.. jatuin Shaw, Broderick, 6 guns, 289 tons, too troops ; Q ueen . (agent), Bubb, 8 guns, 347 tons, 174 mops ; Ann, Siwir, 6 guns, 232.t0n5. army provisions ; Isabella, lateww.xl, 6 guns, 236 tons, 194 troops; Hampersdown, Gibson, 8 suns; H t tons, 144 troops; Ceres, Nichols, 4 guns, t 63 tons, 73 troops; Nile, Milbank, 8 guns, 301 tons, 193 troops , ; Amity, Goy, guns, Pi tons, ais troops ; Henry Clough, 8 guns, 316 tons, 208 troops; t rtincis and Eliza, Gibhins, 8 guns, .07 tons, 266 troops; Hcro, to guns, 41 5 te n s, 2 70 troops; Duchess of Richmond, Neu port, is guns, 324 tons, 223 troops, put into Waterford; Polly, Chapman, 8 guns; 28i tons, 193 troops; Rawcliff; Filbert, S guns, 345 tons, 2+4 troops Cora, Nero, is gulls, 421 tons, 289 troo . p . s; Sir L ' iseph inks , th • Lake, to guns, 340 tons, 227 troops I magnet, cwersdale, to guns. 463 tans, 320 troops; Alarm (agent), 'scabs, is guns, 430 tons, 2li c i troops; Sarah, Dowell, as guns, 332 tons, 373 troops; G rge, Ulack, 4 guns, 151 tons, medicines ; Traveller, - Two guns, *73 tons, ammunition; Calypso. Wright, a guns, tio tons, camp equipage anti me. divines, parted company the 34 of February ljt mate, not` since been heard of ; Tay, Elder, a guns, 172 tons, toittoppt i j,,ord flood, Smith, 8 guns, 331 coos, ,40 horses, parted ecru. pithy the 3d of February in a gale, not since been heardot Friend, Suter, 2 guns, 183 tons, alt troops; Trent. Walton, 4 guns, 279 tons, 28 staff horses.—Cork Mer. L'bra4„ , PORTSMOUTH,. FEB. 27.—Arrived the kmder i from North Yarmonth Saida, OWEN. from. Leith and the Lively,• GRIFFITHS. from Sailed his Majesty's Ships Cenlauf. and Alirvii for the Downs. Caine into harbour his Majesty's Sbip 1,1/4lter. A vessel called the Buosia Fee, is arrived at Pen. zance from Whoa, from whence she sailed w the loth February. She cleared fur a frendipoit, and put into Penzance in n leaky and aitna t ;ed She has on board 120 bags of Spanish stool; brings no intelligence from Spain. Bilboa was 'poi session oflhe French; and thu people of the place had, for some time previous to the sailing of aliv Burma Fee, bad been deluded into a supposition that Cadiz was also in the hands of the enemy, together with the Fleet. We are glad to find that tho.aceident which has happened to Sir'iM4l4s FeARIX is not so 'bad as ie. ported in a Mottling Paper. He fell trona 'a ladder in his house ; his left aitn is broken, and hi fins !erect a severe contuiionan the head, hut is in a ply iaaising state under such trircuwstances. - • ELLISTON, of the tote Drury-lane Theati , Fas taken the Royal Circus of theTrnstces, fur the of three years, at t s sool, per annum