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~. FACTORIES' BILL. Mr. WAKLEY presented a petition from Stockport, praying for a Ten Hours' Bill, also a petition from the inha bitants of St. Martin's-in-the-Fields, praying that the pre sent Vestry Act might be repealed, and that a new Bill might be passed, giving every person the right of giving one vote and no more. The Hon. Member also presented a pe tition from an individual of the name of Greenwood, a Master Extraordinary in the Navy, praying that House to give him redress, by restoring him to his place on the list, or by granting him a Court-martial. As this subject would be fully discussed when the Hon. and Gallant Member (Sir E. Codrington) brought forward his motion, he (Mr. Wakley) would not enter into the subject of this petition at present. SCOTCH MUNICIPAL REFORM. Mr. BANNERMAN presented two petitions from Aberdeen against this Bill. JOINT-STOCK BANKS. Mr. E. L. BULWER presented a petition from the Directors of a Joint-Stock Bank, stating that the more the proceedings of such banks were investigated, the more they would be found deserving of protection, and praying that an inquiry might be instituted into the liabilities, &c., of private banks. BALLAD-SINGING. Mr. POTTER had a petition to present, to which he re quested the attention of the House. It was the petition of Robert Mortimer, a solicitor of Barnstaple, praying for some alteration in the Vagrancy Act. The petition stated that two- weeks_ago two boys of the name of Callaghan were singing duets at a village near Barnstaple. Their. singing was perfectly harmless and inoffensive. While they were thus employed "'le villagers were much pleased, and in some instances ney gave the singers refreshments, and in others sums of money. A gentleman, he was sorry to say, one of the Magistrates of Barnstaple, ordered them to be taken into custody, without giving them notice. These two performers, the one eight and the other thirteen years of age, were brought before this Magistrate—the younger escapfid, but the other was convicted on the Magistrate's own view of the case, without any evidence whatever, and sentenced to be imprisoned fourteen days in gaol.—(Hear.) The committment stated that the boy had been disorderly. The petitioner represented the extreme cruelty of being in carcerated in a dungeon for exercising a pleasing and natural endowment. He lamented that all the open spaces that were generally appropriated for the people of England to exercise their games and pastimes upon were taken away, and he concluded by imploring the House to make .an alteration in the Vagrant Laws, so as clearly to define what might be considered 'as offences under them. The Hon. Member stated that he most cordially concurred in the prayer of the petition, and that if he could gain the assistance of an Hon. Friend of his next Session, he should endeavour to alter the Vagrant Laws, by softenint , their extreme rigour. This was not the first time that people had been imprisoned for singing in the open air, although he could not imagine that that could be considered as an act of vagrancy. He cod recollect when ballad-singing was encouraged by authorities, particularly at the commencement of the French revolution. Persons were then encouraged to sing loyal songs. The SPEAKER here interrupted the Hon. Member, and reminded him that he was out of order in speaking at length upon the petition. Mr. POTTER would merely move that the petition be brought up, which "was accordingly done and laid on the table. I POOLE CORPORATION BILL. Mr. PRAED gave notice that he should move the in , sertion of certain clauses in the Poole Corporation Bill this evening. BEER LAWS: Mr. BROTHERTON presented a petition signed by 450 inhabitants of Chorley, praying for an alteration in the Beer Act. DISSENTERS' GRIEVANCES. Mr. WILKS presented a petition from the Dissenters. of Hillsborough, in the county of Northampton, on the subject of the grievances affecting their body. POOR LAW ACT. Mr. HOPE presented a petition from the medical prac titiciners of Gloucester, against the system of farming out the poor, since the new Act came into operation. Mr. WAKLEY hoped the Noble Lord, the Secretary of State for the Home Department, would state whether it was the intention of his Majesty's Government to take any step to relax the present system. FACTORY BILL. Mr. FIELDEN presented a petition from Oldham, praying for a Ten Hours' Factory Bill. Mr. MARK PHILLIPS took that opportunity to correct a Mistake into which a Right Rev. Prelate had fallen in another place, when he stated that 8,000 dis torted children had Leen found in the streets of Manchester, which he attributed to the fakory system. He felt it his duty to state thus much to the House, as he had received information from persons acquainted with the subject, and pointing out the incorrectness of the statement which was ealculatedto do considerable mischief.—(Hair, hear, hear.) It had also been stated that the poors'-rates of Manchester were very high, and that this indicated great distress on the contrary, the rates were never lower than at' present, and he (Mr. Phillips) only trusted that those who took their opinions from , others would have the kindness to go to the manufacturing. -dig tricts and judge for themselves, instead of giving circulation to such mis-statements.---(Hear, hear.) After a few words from Mr. FIELDEN, the petition • was laid on the .table. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said the rules and regulations had been communicated to the Home Office, and he fairly. confessed he did not see to what points the Hon. Member alluded. Mr. FIELDEN said he would take an opportunity of bringing the ease before the House,' for he thought the matter looked very like a conspiracy, in order to enable the mill-owners to evade the A. Mr. BeuTHEnToN and Mr. POTTER were about to speak upon the subject, when The SPEAKER called upon. Sir A. L. HAY, who brought up the Report of the Holyhead Road Bill. Mr. HAWES presented a petition, numerously t signed by barristers and clergymen, praying the House to take steps to have a full Catalogue for .the ; British Muwurn ; and one relative to the hours of the Museum being open. Mr. C. BULLER presented a petition from Thomas Beaumont, complaining of the Merionoth election, an d praying to be heard by counsel against the return. The HON. MEMBER brought up the Report of the Record Commission. Mr. EWART hoped the subject would be inquired into. WAKLEY said the expenditure had been so enor mous. and the result so unsatisfaetorv, that he really hoped the Committee would make their Report at once. Mr. C. BULLER trusted that Hon. Members tvould not draw so unfavourable a result from the Report that had been presented. LONDON CEMETERIES' COMPANY. On the motion of Mr. T. DUNCOMBE this Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed to the Surrey List. JEWISH DISABILITIES. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL presented a petition from the Provost and Town Council of Edinburgh, praying p for the r emova l o f all c i v il di sa biliti es a ff ec ti ng persons of the Jewish p ersuas i on. H e was glad tpnd that th e p re . sent petitiofier s concurred in the prayer of Petition which he presented a few days since from certain Jews of Edin burgh. DUBLIN AND DROGHEDA RAILWAY. • Mr. O'CONNELL moved the third reacting of - this Bill. ,:THE SUN, LONDON - , TUESDAY. JULY 12, 1536. 7:$1 ) 01t T 1 NG INTE Li_ al • -17::S T nA 1. TA TTERNAI,/,':',‘ The only bets taken were 5 to 1 against - Gladiator. for the St. Leger; sto 1 about Mundig, for i. LiNeruool Cup.; 10 to 1 about Silentp, for the Goodr.-0•0. Cup ; 7 to 4 about Fille de Joie for the July Stakes (this day). The room , sas very thinly attended, most of the subscribers having left for the wmarket Races. LATEST BETTING IN THE COUNTRY. LIVIMPOOL CUP, I'. I'. 5 to 1 agst Sir J. Boswell's General Chasse--taken 11 to 2 agst Mr. BoWes's Mundig 10 to 1 agit Lard Westminster's Oswald. 10 to I agst Mr. Mostyn':s Birdlime 11. to 1 agst Duke of Leeds's Longituts—taken to 1 agst Mr. M. Foulis's Dc Roos 12(to 1 agst Mr. J. Robinson's Stockport 20 to 1 agst any other WILTON STAKES, P.P. 6 to 4 on Vulture agst Trapball TWO-YEAIt-OLD STAKES. 5 to 4 agst Calendar—taken ; 2 to 1 agst Lord Strafford NE WMA RKE 7' JULY MEETING. Monday A fternoon. The following is a list of the horszs in training for the great two years old races. TO-MORROW The July Stakes of 50 soy,. each, 30 ft., for two yrs on New T.Y.C. 23 Sul,s. Mr. Wilson's ch. c. by Comus, darn by Figaro; Mr. Pe tit's b. c. by Tranby, darn by ibier ; Mr Greville's eh. f. Mariette, by Priam; Sir AL Weed's eh. c. brother to Glaueus ; Lord Chester. field's e. by Priam, out of Alexis's dam ; Lord Chesterfield's c. by Shatspeare, out of Eliza Leeds; Mr. Ridsdale's b. f. Venilia; Lord Exeter's e. by Sultan, out of Miss- Caritley; Lord Exeter's f. by Priam, out of Varna ; Sir S. Graham's f. by Emilius, out or Farce; Sir S. Graham's f. by Shalcspeare, out of Twatty; Mr Hunter's gr. f. by Gustavus, out of Peggy; Colonel Peel's gr. f. by Sultan, out Fille de Joie ; GeneralYates's b. f. Rigadoon ; Lord Olford's b. f. by Mulatto, out of Ascot's dam ; Mr. Chifney's b. c. Lent. ------ • -. THURSDAY. The Chesterfield Stakes: of 30 SON'S. each, 9 0 ft. • Lord Cheste7field's c. by Pfiarn, out of Arachne ; Lord Chester. field's Well-a. day;, iv Priam ; Lord Chesterfield ns. c. by Shah speare, out of P'heasiatt; Lord Exeter's c. by Redgauntlet, out of Augusta's dam ; Mr. J. Rogers's ch. f. by Langar, out of Isabel ; Mr.. Newton's b. c by Cetus ' out of Brillant e ; Mr. Stonebewer's r. c. by Gustavus , out of Emma; General Yates's c. Grand Cairo; General Grosvenor's f. Laodice; Mr. Cookes's b. c. Win- ford. . Grand. Cairo is the favourite. Very few arrivals at present. In the course of the week the Derby and Oaks for lB3s Garden Stakes for 1836, and several Newmarket and Ascot Produce Stakes will close. The following are the appointments for to-morrow : Swzopstakes of 10 sovs. each, for three vrs old ; colts, Bst. 61b ; fifties, Bst. 31b. New I. Y. C. Sweepstakes of 100 sovs. each, h. ft.. for the produce of mares covered in 1833; colts, Bst. 51b ; fillies, Bst. 31b. T. Y.C. Duke of Grafton's c. Rubicon (dead) ; Lord Orford's f. by Jerry, out of Stays ; Mr. Spalding's f. by Jerry, out of Lady Easby. Lord Lichfield's Toss Up, Bst. Ilb., agst Lord Exeter's Jemmy 80.—T. Y. C. 100, h. ft. The July Stakes, a Subscription of 50 sous. each, 30 ft. New T. Y. C. Mr. Wilson's eh. c. by Comus, dam by Figaro ; Mr. Pettit's b. c. by Tranby, dam by Abler; Mr. Greviile's ch. c. Laocoon; Mr. Greville's ch. f. Mariett!:3; Sir M. Wood's Brother to Glau cos ; Sir M. Wood's ch. f. by Partisan, out of Aline ; Sir M. Wood's br. c. by Lottery, out of Bossy Bedlam ; Lord Chesterfield's c. by Priam, out of Alexis's dam ; Lord Chesterfield's c. by Shak speare, out of Eliza Leeds ; Mr. Ridsdale's b f Marchesina ; Mr. Ridsd;le's b f Venilla ; Ld Exeter's c by Sultan, out of Miss Cantley ; Ld Exeter's f by Priam, out of Varna; Sir S. Gra ham's f by Emilius, out of Farce; Sir S. Graham's f by Shak speare, out of Twatty ; Mr. Hunter's gr f by Gustavus, out of Peggy ; Colonel Peel's gr f by Sultan, out of Fille de Joie ; Ge neral Yates's b f Rigadoon ; Lord Orford's b f by Mulatto, out of Ascot's dam ; Mr. Chifnev's b c Lent ; Mr. T. H. Stirling's b; c. Aaronides; Mr. J. Day's br. f. Mustee ; Mr. J. Day's f. Claw. NEWTON ABBOT RACES—FBIDAr. A Plate of 50 sovs. Heats, Two Miles. Mr. Wreford's Tyrant, 3 yrs, 7st. 101 b: ...(Duke) 2 1 1 Mr. W. Ley's Rosalie, 5 yrs, Bst. 41b. The following also started, but were not placed :—Mr R. Wise's Coronet, aged, 9st. 91b. ; Mr. Nattles's Barbarossa, 6 yrs, 9st. 51b. Mr. Horsley's ch. in. by Defiance, 4 yrs, Bst. 71b. Won easily. A Sweepstakes of 1 soy. each, with 20 added (handicap). Heats (3 Subs.) Mr. R. Wise's Preference, 3 yrs, 7st. 4Ib. Mr. Nattles's ch. h. by Luzborough, 4 yrs, Bst. 51b 2 2 Mr. S. Whiteway ns. Rosebud, 4 yrs, 7st. 111 b. A . 0 0 Won cleverly. A Hurdle Race Sweepstakes of 5 sovs. each, with 20 added. Heats. a mile and a quarter. Mr. C. Trelawney's Mazourka, 6 yrs, I Ist. 121 b. walked over. A Handicap Sweepstakes of 5 sov. each, with 20 added. Heats, a mile and a distance. (3 Subs.) Mr. Nattles's Barbarossa, 6 yrs, Bst., 71b. Mr. R. Wise's Preference, 3 yrs, ist. 41b .. 1 3dr Mr. W. Ley's Rosaile, 5 yrs, 9st. 71b.. A good race, and won by a head. Marlow Races are fixed for the 3d and 4th of August, and Lit tlehamiston for the 10th of the same month. The Mintarch steam-ship, which left Edinburgh late on Saturday afternoon, arrived at Blackwall yesterday at 10 o'clock, after a rapid and delightful passage of about 40 hours. ------- SINGULAR BEE.HIVE.—There is now in the garden of M. Henwood, gsq., Pinsla Park, fn the parish of Cardinham, a rum puncheon, full of bees and honey. The industrious insects took possession of the puncheon three years ago, and it is now so heavy that two strong men cannot lift it. West Britcn. On Friday evening three youths (brothers) of the name of Forest, sons of respectable parents residing at Chel sea, went to bathe in the Thames, near the Red-house, Bat tersea. They had not been long in the water when the eldest, aged about seventeen years, got out of his depth, arid being but a very indifferent swimmer, the tide, which was high l and flowing very rapidly at the time, carried him out into the . stream ; he kept up as long as he was able, calling out to his two brothers for assistance ; but as they were unable to swim, they could not render it, and the unfortunate lad sank, after 'which one of the two brothers was so agonised in his feelings that he rushed towards the spot where his brother had sunk, and after a few ineffectual 'ef f orts to dive, he was about to sink when a boat arrived on the spot and picked him up. The other brother perished; and up to a late hour last night his body was not found, although the arags were put in requisi tion immediately after the accident happened. Within , the last week, no less than seven indivicivals, men and boys, have been drowned in the Thames, bct:veen Vauxhall and Battersea Bridges. The family of the youth are thrown into a state of great affliction, by the deprivation, they have sustained. A COSTLY SPREE.—On Tuesday morning, at two o'clock, Mr. Raven, of Church gate, was alarmed by bearing a noise, which he thought proceeded from an attempt to break into his house. Ilr rose in haste, and on looking, mt.. of his window, saw three young- men toiling along the street under heavy, oads, one of them being half smothered in a fea ther bed. Mr. Raven cried, " Stop thieves !" and down went the burdens—off scampered the men. The police received information of the suspicious occurrence, with a description of the three fugitives, and they were captured before five o'clock. An inquiry was set on foot, and other deeds of the night were brought home to their door. In due time, they were taken before a rugistrate, and the following narrative of their noc turnal doings came to light:—The young men had been to a woolsorters' " suprering," and were too jovial and, rampant when the party broke up to commit so unromantic a blunder as that of retiring quietly to bed. They therefore, previ ,ously, ravaged a kitchen-garden ; overthrew and broke two grave stones or, Mr. Foster's wharf ; backed a cart into the canal ; and (having neglected to cool themselves by follow ing the cart) took out the window of a house in Canitun-yard (a noted place), entered by the breach, and were making off with " all the modern and genteel household furniture," when Mr. Raven left his bed, and caused them to desert their. The valorous youths, who were omnipotent for mischief when the fi e ld was a ll t h e i r own,, and., having no opponents, " soug ht the bubble reputation - e'en at the cannon's Mouth," felt their courage ooze out, and flail helter-skelter at the sound of one snan's voice. But they were speedily in the clutches of the Police, sad called upon, to answer to the grave eloirge of bur glary. Tim owner of thin furniture, on hearing their explana tkm, withdraw his charge, and they were liberated ; after which, however, they had three unpleasant charges to set at rest, namely, for damn° done in Cannon-yard, 21. ; and for their Quixoti c attac k on the grave stones, vl. ; making a total of 71. 125., independent of other expenses. Wellope that all larking aspirents for ignoble fame, will in future rein their ambitious desires with the reflection that when the wool sorters' " wits went a wool-gathering," they had to " pay dear for their whistle." —Leicester Chronicle. A shommker living at Lyons was lately struck with the charms of the wife or a house-painter, his neighbour,' who, after a fortnight's solicitations, determined to acquaint her husband with the fact. This she did, and her husband immediately comprehended the reason of' his rival coming every day to his house to buy a certain movable cupboard from him. They both determined to be revenged, and concerted measures accordingly. The same evening the gallant arrived more gay and more smart than ever. The wife told him that her hus band had gone out of town to get 200 francs paid him froth a person who was his debtor; and. therefore, the gallant eqm anences his suit anew, employing by turns a little amorous persuasion and sometimes a little gentle force. The wife re mined impassive, and on a sudden an swere d h i m that he ha d a vtrong . smell of leather about him ; but that if he would consent to take a bath first, then perhaps she would not say no. The gallant agreed, and entered a tub indicated by the fair one. While in the midst of the operation the husband re turned, knocked loudly at the door, and the wife persuaded An unhappy gallant to enter, just as hi I,,as, into the cvpboard which he bad pretended a desire to purchase. Th e husband came in, cursed his stars for not liming been able to get ,his money, and declared that the very next morning h e would carry the cupboard to his friend the shoemaker, and sell it to biro for the 2001 r. So saying, he locked the door of it. and put the key into his pocket. Next morning the cupboard was carried off' to the shoemaker's door, and placed opposite to it, while ,his wife came down stairs to iaquirc what had be femme of her litoband. The painter replied that' he did not knOw, but that he brought home the cupboard which he had bought of him for ;200fr., so saying they put the key in the door and opened it, when, in a moment, there shot out of it a man, quite naked, all over red, with his hair on end, who started off like a wild beast into his own shop. His wife called out for help, and the shop-boys came and soundly bela boured the poor devil until he succeeded in ,making himself k now n. His punishment had been long and severe ; his bath bad been well mixed with glue and red ochre, and the figure of the poor shoemaker may be more easily imagined than de srribed. 'He has never shown his face out his shop since, 7 rench Paper. LEIS -''t L - 1111..TAilliEN T. HOUSE 01: COMMONS, Jc•r.r 11. The SPEAKER. took the Chair shortly before four o'clock. Mr. Crafer, from the Treasury, presented papers. Mr. HODGES brought up the Report of the Committee on the Med►vay Navigation Bill. Mr. MAHER moved the second reading of the Suir Navigation Bill. • Nii. G. BERKELEY presented a petition from Chelten ham, signed by 2,600 persons, complaining of and praying for; the removal of a charge that was made on that town of la. - extra for every newspaper and general post letter that was delivered from the Post-pflice. The Hon. Member considered the case of the petitioner one of great hardship, and one which h e believed exi s ted in no other town in the kingdom. Mr. BARNARD said the case of the petitioners was not at all a sinf_rular one, as it existed at Greenwich and Deptford. • Dr. BOWRING said that the same hardship existed it the city of Exeter, and he thought the subject was one wel deserving the attention of his Majesty's Government. Sir E. CODRINGTON believed that his constituents were in a worse situation than any of the cases alluded to ; for, although in that town there were upwards of 10,000 in habitants, the delivery only extended a mile each way. Mr. IV ALLACE could assure the House that the statement made by thc Hon. Member for Gloucestershire was perfectly true. This charge had been laid on by the Postmaster• General, against the provisions of a positive statute, and he was prepared to lay before the House three decisions of Lord Mansfield in corroboration of the illegality of the charge. He understood, however, that these charges were to be taken off.—(Hear, hear.) It was to be removed from newspapers, and it was not likely that it would be al lowed to be superadded on general post bills. Mr. WILKS said that if the Hon. Member for South ampton had not given notice of his intention to bring the subject before the House, he (Mr. Wilks) should have felt it his duty to do so. It was a singular anomaly that whilst one-half of the town of Southampton paid a penny, the other paid nothing. Lord ACHESON could not allow the Bill to be read a third time without entering hit protest against it. Since the present Bill was introduced, a new Company had been -established, for the purpose of forming a line of Railway from Dublin to Armagh, and as this line would be one of much greater public utility, he thought it should be pre ferred. He would not, however, take the sense of the Ilonse upon it. The Bill was then read a third time and passed. BIRMINGHAM :AND DERBY JUNCTION •• RAILWAY. Sir ROBERT PEEL presented a petition from certain shareholders of this railway, against a Bill now before Par, liament for the remission of tolls on railways. He thought it of great importance that a day S6uld be named, on which the sense of the House should be taken, because it was keeping in great suspense parties who had money to embark in these speculiitions. The present was the case of a Bill which had al ready passed, and was a direct interference with vested rights. —( Hear, hear.) He (Sir R. Peel) would feel it his duty.= principle to object to the measure—(Hear, hear)—and he hoped the Right Hon., the Vice-President of the Board of Trade, would state what the intentions of Government were with respect to that Bill ? Mr. LABOUCHERE, in the absence of his Right Hon. Friend, could only say, that he believed it was the intention of the Hon. Member to persevere with his Bill, but he could not say what was the intention of the Go vernment upon the subject. Mr. HAWES understood the Bill was fixed for the second reading that evening, and it was most important that the opinion of Government upon the subject should be known. Mr. ROBINSON said his constituents took a deep interest in the questibn, and without entering upon its merits, he would merely observe, that all they wanted to know was what the intentions of the Government were. It was rather extraordinary' that upon, a question of such importance the Government had not made up their minds ; the 'consequence' of which was, that a large amount of capital was paralysed, and extensive operations, in which the public were deeply interested, suspended. Mr. LABOUCHERE explained—The Hon. Member misunderstood him, if he supposed that he (Mr. L.) had stated that the Government had not made up their minds. He was satisfied that when the Bill was before the House the Government would be prepared to state what course it meant to pursue; but he could not take upon himself to state what that would be in the absence of his Right Hon. Friend. Mr. HAWES wished to ask whether, as Tuesdays were set apart for the discussion of Railway Bills, to-morrow might not be devoted to the discussion of this Bill ? It related to railroads, and it would be a great public conve nience to have the question settled. Mr. O'CONNELL said this Bill created alarm in every part of the empire—the more especially as being brought forward at this period, for many Bills bad already passed, and, of course, the interest in these was vested, and the Bill could not be made retrospective—it would, therefore, be unjust to fix it upon those in progress. He hoped the Hon. Member who had charge of the Bill, and who was acting openly, fairly, and honestly, would re-consider his plan, and withdraw the Bill for the present. Sir ROBERT PRICE was not prepared to support the Bill, but he thought there was a necessity for some such measure. Mr. M. PHILLIPS agreed with the Hon. Baronet (Sir R. Peel). He hoped the debate would take place as early as possible, so that the public might know how to employ their capital. A great deal of capital was laid out in canals ; and, upon inquiry, it would be found that no inor dinate profit had arisen from them. IRISH CHURCH. On' the Order of the Day being moved for the bringing up of the Report of the Committee on the Irish Church Bill, Mr. CLAY said that he had expected to have had an opportunity this evening of bringing forward his motion re specting the Danish Claims ; as, however, he could not do so that evening, be wished to know when he would be enabled to do so ? Lord J. RUSSELL was understood to say that an op portunity would be afforded to the Hon. Member, if the business of the House would admit of it, to bring forwai'd the subejct on Friday next. Mr. CLAY then gave notice that on moving the first Order of the Day on Friday next he would bring forward the subject. Mr. BERNAL then brought up the Report of the Com mittee on the Irish Otiurch Bill. Sir J. GRAHAM said that he perceived that some al terations of importance had been made in this Bill, affecting the quantity of surplus after supplying the wants of the Irish Church. He found that it - I'one instance the minimum had been raised from 1001. to 1501. ; and in another instance from 2001. to 2501. There had been also some alterations in the estimates of the income of the beneficed Clergy, on which he wished to hear some ex planation frtim the Noble Lord opposite, Lord Morpeth. Lord MORPETH stated in reply, that he had made the alterations to which the Right Hon. Baronet had ad verted. He had increased the mini/nu/7z in consequence of the objections that had been made by the other side, but it would in no degree diminish the surplus.—(Hear, hear.) Whatever amount of glebe land might be allotted, it would be free of rent. The Noble Lord then moved that the Bill be printed, and read a third time on Friday. Mr. GOULBURN said that a Bill had been read a first time the other night before 'he could know what the subject of it was. He bad had no opportunity of knowing the nature of the Bill until it had been sent to him. It struck him to be as extraordinary a Bill as was ever laid pn the table. Was it to be endured that a tithe should be abolisfied, without stating there was to be a com pensation or valuation made of what the tithe was that was to be abolished, merely because it was difficult to give a reason why the personal tithe should be abolished ? This was the only Rll he had ever seen without a preamble. Lord JOHN RUSSELL bad no doubt the Right Hon. Gentleman took a great interest in questions of this nature, but certainly the Right Hon. Gentleman had not spoken while a long discussion took place upon the subject. The opinion of the House upon a late occasion almost universally was, that personal tithes were a very great oppression, that they could not be collected, and that they ought not to remain any longer.—(Hear, hear.) He was quite willing, if it would be satisfactory to the Right Hon. Gentleman, to introduce a preamble stating—" Whereas it was expe dient that personal tithes should be abolished, and so on."— (Hear, hear, and laughter.) Mr. GOULBURN thought, if the Noble Lord would make a little inquiry, he would find that personal tithes formed a great part of the property of the clergy.—( Hear, hear.) He believed the tithe could be collected ; if not, there was no ,neeessity for introducing the Bill, but he con sidered it was but just, if the tithe were to be abolished, that some compensation should be made. He should take an objection to abolishing any kind of tithe abdolutely. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL believed the only per sonal tithe that would be abolished by the Bill was the tithes on labour.--( Hear.) He believed that by law they might be collected, but to the honour of the clergy, except in very rare instances, such a tithe had not been insisted upon.(Hear, hear.) With regard to the preamble, there had been a series of Bills passed, had received the Royal Assent, and had been made the law of the laud without any preamble whatever having been attached to them. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said that it was in consequence of a motion he. had made, that the House came to the determination that personal tithes should be abo lished, and it was in consequence of that determination the Noble Lord had brought in the Bill. The Right Hon. Gentleman had asked what reason there was for abolishing the tithe. On the evening he had brought forward the motion, he could only find one instance in which the tithe had' been demanded, and that was a case in Yorkshire, where a clergyman had endeavoured to exact four shil lings and four pence from a day-labourer, and that day labourer had been committed to prison for three months by,a brother magistrate. He was sorry the Noble Lord's Bill did not go further, and do away with tithes on fish, because that was a description of tithe that ought equally to 1;0 abolished.—(Hear, hear.) Easter offerings were ori ginally intended in lieu of personal tithes. The House then resolved itself into Committee on. the Bill ; the amendments were agreed to, when the. House resumed, EMIGRATION.—VAN DIEMEN'S LAND. Mr. WALTER, in pursuance of a notice that on an Order of the Day being read, he should submit a motion on tlio subject of Emigration to Van Di,emen's Land, after some observations on the system pursued by the Emigration Committee, which the remote position of the lion. Member prevented our hearing—Mr. Walter pro ceeded to read some extracts from a Hobart Town Paper i,f . February last, complaining of the tender age of the females who ilaa been sent out, and represent ing the difficulty of procuring them situations. As 1 1 0 wonld not have the benefit, of a reply, ho would pro ceed to notiao some of the objections which might be urged against them. Some gentlemen connected with property in that country might allUde to the testimony which had been given before them, but be (Mr. W.) would not receive any evidence unless it were most strictly examined. and sifted. Others might refer to the Reports of Com mis4ioners and Committees ; but he would pay very little ttputipn to .l'ietp—they were for the most part made up for seryin tb,e ptyp4es f i r Ow by, whom they were appointed, Thè kis!? f-me 11'ePpq n9Fr very much talked of-4 WIP ITit u 914 R` i. the English Report, which was most fallactous. :77 (Hear,) 'l he Report from the parish of Chordeley (as we under stood) pude such an impression upon him, that he went' down l;st autumn, in order to inspect the place, was true that the parish was ate 'op' by the Otes, hot what would the House think when hp informed. them that the whole parish consisted of not more thin', two 'fermi of fifty acres each, and forty-four acres in the parish was waste Lend? - He would now -be very .aiutious of receiving the Reports of Commissions generally without examination. If the facts which he had stated could be controverted, he hoped that such an opportunity would be afforded ; but he thought it his duty to lay them before the House, in the hope that they would be investi— gated. The motion with which he would conclude was for au 'humble address to his Majesty, that he Would be graciously pleased to issue orders to the effect, that certain circulars which had been sent to different Postmasters, and/ to Clergymen of the Established Church, detailing the advantages of emigration, might be withdrawn, and that the Secretary of State be directed to ascertain by whose autho rity such circulars had been issued Mr. WA K LEY seconded the motion. Sir G. GREY had already stated that these circulars giving publicity to the advantages of emigration to New South Wales had been circulated without authority. He felt it his duty to give this motion his humble opposition. He hoped that the people of England would not take their idea of the advantages or disadvantage of emigration from the state ment of the Hon. Member for Berkshire, or from the anonymous paragraphs that appeared in some of the news papers on the subject.—(Hear, hear.) He believed that emigration, wisely and prudently conducted, would lead to the general advantages of emigrants from this country. The Hon. Member in place of collecting - his information from newspaper paragraphs, ought to refer to tile papers of that House.—(Hear.) It was not be wondered at that out of so many some of the females* should turn out badly. The whole subject had, however, been taken up in the proper quarter—namely, by the Colonies themselves. Much good had been done already, and much more would no doubt be accomplished: He, therefore, hoped the statements of the Hon. Member would be received with great caution by the House.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. CHARLES LUSHINGTON hoped the House would allow him to give some explanation in reference to the statement which had been made by the Hon. Member for Berkshire. - He (Mr. Lushington) had been a member of the Emigration Committee from its origin to the present time, and he was competent to give every information to the House respecting its proceedings. In order to obviate the inconvenience of a preponderance of males, which existed in the col'ony, a bounty was offered by the Govern ment to encourage the emigration of young females, and that system had been found productive of great temptation, seduction, and frightful excesses, and a Committee of gen tlemen offered their services to promote the object. The Hon. Member here alluded to the various Members of the Committee, the characters of all of whom were, he would assert above suspicion. He would beg to read an extract from the letter of a clergyman of the Church of England (the Rev. Mr. Knight, of Torbay,) with reference to one of the last vessels of the Committee. He stated that he had been often on board, and testified to the respect ability of the females, and the good order observed by them. The Hon. Gentleman had stated that' no less than two thirds of the females that were imported into Sydney had followed licentious courses. The fact was they were contaminated by the vices of one of the most aban doned and dissolute colonies belonging to his Majes ty's dominions. And to prove this, the Hon:Gentleman read an extract from the charge of the Chief Justice to the Jury at the close of the Session of 1835. Then ,it had been stated that this vice and debauchery were con fined to the lower orders—that was not the , case. The Honourable Baronet opposite would bear him out when he asserted that a gentleman holding a judicial situation in the Colony of Sydney had been removed from that situation, because he had passed -himself off as an unmar ried man, and had endeavoured to seduce a female, who had arrived by one of the vessels. The Hon. Gentleman con cluded by stating he had no favouriteview to carry into effect; his sole wish was to promote that cause which was the cause of truth, humanity and virtue.—(Hear, hear.) The motion was then negatived without a division. COUNTY ELECTIONS. The House then went into Committee on the County Elections Poll Bill. Mr. GOULBURN thought the Bill would increase the expenses of county elections, as many more agents would be rendered necessary which would cost more than would be saved in the conveyance of voters. Another objection was, that the poll might be kept open till six o'clock. _ _ Lord J. RUSSELL could not but think that it would be a very great advantage to have the poll taken in one day. From the experience they had of the present system, be was quite sure that there was abundance of time for tak ing it. As to the. objection of shortening the time of an election to one day, the same objection might be urged for lessening the time of an election from 15 days to two. Mr. FOSTER suggested that when there were contests in adjoining counties, the election ought not to take place the same day. Mr. PRYME thought the loss of a single vote would be a very trifling one when compared with the advantages to be derived from the proposed change. Mr. BAINES remarked that even under the present system, persons could be easily polled in the one day. Mr. J. E. DENISON was decidedly in favour of the poll being taken in one flay. - Sir IC PEEL considered that no evils had followed from the two day's polling ; no valid reason had been given for the change.—( Hear, hear.) Viscount HOWICK thought that the Right Hon. Baronet never had the misfortune of standing for a county. —(Hear, hear.) If he had, he would not have said that there was no solid reason for the change.—(Hear, hear.) There was a vast difference to the candidate between a great number of polling places, to be closed in one day, and the poll bein g kept up for a great number of days.— ( Hear.) He did not see that closing the poll in one day was likely to increase the power of the landlords any more than giving an opportunity to the intimidation of the mob. After a few words from Mr. GORING and Mr. LOWTHER, Mr. HEATHCOTE observed that by the Reform Bill a person could have a vote in the borough and in the county, and yet a person who had property in two different counties could not, by this Bill, have a vote. Lord JOHN RUSSELL proposed that the hour for closing the poll should be changed from six to five o'clock. Mr. FORSTER thought that would be no advantage. For the clause Against it Majority -33 On our return to the Gallery, we found the House had resumed. MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS ACT AMEND. MENT BILL. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER brought up the Report of the Committee appointed to- draw up reasons for disagreeing from some of the Lords' amend ments to this Bill. The reasons having been read by the Clerk at the table, a Conference was appointed to take place to morrow on the subject. STAMP DUTIES BILL. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER then moved the Order of the Day for the further consideration ,of the Report on the Stamp Duties Bill. Mr. WAKLEY opposed the motion, on the ground that the order was the 22d on the list, and he knew that there were several Hon. Members who were anxious to take part in the discussion of this subject, but who had no idea that, it would come on this evening. He trusted; therefore, that the Chancellor of the Exchequer would consent, as an act of courtesy, to postpone the matter till to-morrow. It; however, the Bill was persisted in at present, opposed to it as he was in principle, and in most of its details, he should, though with very great pain, feel himself compelled to di vide the House upon almost every clause. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER de fended the principle of the Bill, and denied the assertion made at different times both in the House and out of it, that it was intended to impose additional restraints upon the freedom of the Press. He denied that assertion in the most unqualified manner ; but at the sable time he would state that he could never consent to ask the House to im pose a lower duty upon Newspapers than. that which had hitherto existed, unless coupled with the 'means and the de termination on the part of the Government of enforcing the payment of that duty. If the clauses of the Bill op peared to be incorrectly framed for , the object which they had in view, he was quite ready to go into the consi deration with every desire to amend them where necessary. But if the Hon. Member for Finsbury objected to the motion upon principle, that was an objection fatal to the whole measure of relief which he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) and his friends had in view, and he would certainly not consent to make himself account able for the disappointment which would accrue to the public from the postponement of this question. The public, and particularly the proprietors of the News paper Press, had already complained that tho new arrangement had been postponed beyond the period in the first instance announced, namely, the Ist of July ; and when he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) was pressed to state when he would be prepared to forward the measure through the House, he replied that it was his intention to bring it on to-night. An announcement to that effect was made by his Noble Friend the Home Se cretary on Friday, and also by himself, so he did not think that any Gentleman present had a right to get up and say, that he had been taken by surprise on this occasion. Mr. O'CONNELL had certainly understood that it was the intemtion of Government to no on to-night lyio this 1 4iq• h 6late period q the r 4epiett, he, 09404 it .e -ceedingly degirahle'ihat: the SUbjeFt should not be post poned.' They all agreed, he believed, that a reduction should ate made the Newspaper Stamp Duties, Whe ther the prppesed reduction was low enengh 4 4llcl Willkt g4 1 409 1 !4 Silfitlid 1).0 PRaCted irl respect -to it = were pur e ly mattPFS tq a t e PlP*lPrgcl irl Poramittee, He thought it would ha eneedingly unfair to impose a duty upon News- papers which was capable of l.ing evaded by those who (lAA the law ; this would be obviously unjust not only to the Revenue, but to those Newspaper Proprietors who paid the tax. For his own part, he thought that when they re duced the duty, they would find that they might also re duce the measures for its enforcement. He hoped the Hon. Member for Finsbury would allow them to proceed with the Bill. 'Mr. HAWES hoped the Hon. Member for Finsbury would not press his objection. Dr. BO WRING also hoped the Hon. Gentleman would not divide the Mouse "upon this question. Mr. FRESH FIELD said 'that although he had several amendments to move on many clauses of this Bill, he always understood that those clauses relating to stamps on News papers were to be considered first. Mr. WAKLEY repeated, that to his certain knowledge there were several Hon. Members who had no expectation that this Bill would have been gone into to-night. Amongst others, the Hon. Members for Middlesex and Bath, who were both extremely anxious upon this subject, were not in their places. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it was his intention, in moving the House into Coniiittee, on this Bill, to move also an instruction to the Committee giving it power to divide the Bill into two or more Bills, as might be found expedient. This he thought would be a con venient course, in case it should be found necessary to pass that part of the Bill which related to the StamP duties on Newspapers as a separate measure. The Order of the Day was then read ; after which the instruction to the Committee to divide the Bill was also agreed to, and the House went - into Committee on the Bill. Mr. ROBINSON asked whether it was the intention of the Chancellor of the Exchequer to proceed only. with cer tain parts of the Bill in the present session The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought it a matter of the greatest importance to perfect a measure for the consolidation of the laws relating to stamp duties with as little delay as possible. If, however, it were ob jected on many hands that at the present late period of the Session it would not be expedient or prudent to press for ward a general enactment of that description, he should certainly be prepared to listen to the objection. In the .meantime he sh ou ld certa i n l y move t h at a ll t h e clauses up to clause 162 be postponed ; by so doing they would come at once to the question of Newspaper Stamps, which they now had to consider. He begged Hon. Gentlemen to bear in mind the principles avowed by him in respect to this subject at the time lie first brought it forward, and he would assure the Committee that if any clause could h e pointed out w hi c h was not necessary or justifiable with re gard to the collection of the revenue, he should be prepared to consider the propriety of its omission. At the same time he must repeat, that in justice to the revenue and to those who paid their part of it, he must ask for powers sufficient to enforce the payment of the new duties he was about to propose. The omission of the clauses intended to be post poned would render it necessary to insert a new preamble to the Bill, and also to omit schedule A. Clause 163 having been proposed, Mr. WAKLEY complained that the new and cumbrous machinery created by this Bill would act as a heavy clog upon the liberty of the Press. By the law as it stood at present, a pamphlet, consisting of not less than two sheets and a quarter, and sold for no less than sixpence, might be published as often as the parties pleased. But by the in sertion of the words "or pamphlet" in this clause, pam phlets, whateier number of sheets they might contain, and whatever might be their price, Would be placed without exception upon the same footing as what were strictly called newspapers. He should therefore propose as an amendment to strike out the words "or pamphlet" from this clause. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the Hon. Member for Finsbury seemed to anticipate that the present Bill would have the effect of imposing a duty upon a class of publications which were not entitled to pay a duty at present. When they came to the consideration of the schedules, in which the word " pamphlet" would be more particularly definpd, he undertook to show most distinctly that such was not the intention. He hoped the Hon. Member for Finsbury would consent to defer his objection to the word " pamphlet' . until they came to the schedules. If the words were to be omitted in the present clause, parties might be induced to attempt to publish a newspaper under the title of a " pamphlet," in order to avoid the duty. He repeated the declaration which he had already made—namely, that it was only his intention to charge the duty of Id. upon such papers as, by the present law, were entitled to pay the stamp-duty of 4d. Mr. O'CONNELL supported the clause as it stood. His impression was, that if they were to omit the word " pamphlet" in this clause, before they had defined what a pamphlet was, partieS might bring out a paper called the Morning Pa m phl e t i nstea d o f the MorUitig Chronicle, and the Evening Pamphlet instead of the Courier, with a view to evade the duty. Mr. GOULBURN said that an Act had till lately existed, imposing a duty upon pamphlets, and in which, of course, was contained a clear definition of what a.'" patn• phlet" was intended to be considered. That Act having expired, it became necessary, in his opinion, to come to a clear definition in respect to the present Bill, as to what was a " newspaper." The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that if eventually it should be' considered that the word "pamphlet" would not comprehend a newspaper under an der another name, he should consent to its omission when the schedules were being considered. In the meantime he should press its being retained in the clause. Mr. WAKLEY, referring to the words of the clause, said that it clearly comprehended " pamphlets" as in addi tion to "newspapers." The words were "newspaper or pamphlet," &c. If the word " pamphlet,' therefore, was permitted to remain in this clause, it appeared to him that all the subsequent provisions of the Bill, must necessarily apply to pamphlets as well as newspapers--=not only as re spected the payment of the penny duty, but also in all the onerous restrictions contemplated by the machinery of the Bill. He thought before they went further, that they should define more p rec i se l y w h at a newspaper was, apart from any consideration of size or form. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER re peated that he should be quite ready to omit the word in the schedule if it were found to be unnecessary to the pur poses contemplated by the Bill, and which he had already explained. Mr. WAKLEY must still insist upon dividing upon Ids amendment. The Committee then divided— For the amendment 1 Against it 69 Majority against the amendment —6B On our return to the gallery we f oun d Mr. WAKLEY on h is legs, declaring that the Com mittee had declared that a pamphlet was a newspaper.— (Cries of " No, no !" Mr. O'Connell exclaimed, " Quite the'reverse.") The Chancellor of the Exchequer had said so at least, though he did not mean it. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that it should be recollected that provision was to be made for the free transmission by post of newspapers and pamphlets, and for facilitating in many ways the means of communication. It would be very. incorrect to say that a pamphlet per se was to be charged with a duty ; but at the same time it should be recollected, that if all pamphlets were to be excluded from the duty they would also be excluded from the benefits of the Act. Mr. WAKLEY hoped every Hon. Member would recollect the interpretation which, the Chancellor of the Exchequer had put upon this clause, as it might become highly important on some future occasion. Mr. J. JERVIS observed that there was a manifest injustice, in his opinion, in the provisions of this clause ; for they visited upon the printer of the supplement of a newspaper a penalty for a supposed fraud of which he was not, in all probability, cognisant. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the fact was, that this clause was framed at the earnest sugges tion of the Newspaier preprietors. When this measure was first proposed, it was suggested to him by the parties to whim he had alluded, that there were often foreign ex presses came in at a late hour, which, contained matter of great interest, and there were often debates in Parliament which would require much more space than was afforded by the ordinary size of the paper. On these groundS, amongst others, it was urged that if a supplement of a sheet were allowed on the payment of a halfpenny duty, it would be a very ()Teat convenience and advantage tq the conductors of Newspapers, and would not onoailon any loss to the revenue. So fa'r he was perfectly willing to go ; but if a general power was granted under the provi sions of this Act to a paper, for instance, which was pub blished onpo a week, of bringing out supplements on conse cutive days from that on which it appeared, the effect would be to have a publication brought out and conti nued subject only to half the duty intended by the law. Now to guard against this obvious fraud of defeating the imposition of the penny duty under the colour of the half penny supplements, the present clause was drawn up, w hi c h directed that the supplement s h ou ld be published of the same date and by the same parties as the Newspaper itself. —(Hear, hear.) He begged to be allowed to say that in the first instance, proposed, and ultimatel e.44 11 : 1 effecting, the imposition of a penny dt-113;,, and he certain(; was most desirous to protept 4,83 all COlf . esive praelkes‘ It was, at r(-11.4?, pt in was' intto(lococi for the, loenc:iit o, the publishers, and which was,, #n hja opi nion, well *calcolated- to p rom o ;) lltc 000 cd %ho public. D,r. W 4ilC4 1 i4511g, 11 % 144 the penalties imposed by this claw WON very disprop,ortioned ;_ for the pri n t er or publisllOr ottly compelled to pay a fine of 201. for a violation of its provisions, whilst any person who sold such supplement as the Act forbade, and who might, in all probability, be a very innocent person, was, liable to s,o g severe a penalty as 504 AT roRNEY-GENERAL pointed, out the fact that these penalties could only be put in force by the At torney-General, and not on the information afforded by a common informer. After a short conersation, which was carried on in a very low tone of voice across the table, .The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER did not hesitate .to comply with the suggestion which had been given to reduce the second penalty provided by the clattio from 504 to :20/.—(Hear, hear.) He was satisfied that the enforcement of these penalties being left in the hands of the responsible law advisers of the Crown ensured their never being imposed without an admixture of clemency and a perfect absence of all unnecessary severity. Mr. WA KLEY proposed that before the words " printer or publisher," in this clause the word " proprietor" should be inserted. He did not see why the proprietor of a paper should be free from those liabilities to which the printer and publisher were subjected by this clause. He believed that it would be difficult under this Bill to get a printer or publisher to incur those responsibilities from which those who employed him were exempted. But the fact which accounted for the terms of the clause as it at present stood was this--that it was drawn up by the proprietors of the Stamped Press of the metropolis, and that the Right Hon. Gentleman knew nothing of it until it was put into his hands. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER Was most anxious to apprise the Hon. Member for Finsbury, as well as the House and the public. of the mi sta k e i nto which th e H on . G ent l eman bad fallen when he expressed his belief that this measure was proposed by the proprie tors of the Stamped Press, and that the Government knew nothing of it until it was placed in their hands by the parties to whom he had alluded. He was prepared to state, as a matter of fact coming within his own know ledge, and as such, he hoped, entitled to credence, that there was no foundation whatever for such an assertion.. Indeed, so far were the proprietors of the Stamped Press from being parties to such a measure, that they were par ties most strongly opposed to any alteration in the present system. The clause as amended was then agreed to. On the 164th clause, which states who shall be deemed proprietors of a newspaper, being proposed ? Sir G. GREY had heard that his Right Hon. Friend intended, where the proprietors of a paper were numerous, they should be represented at the Stamp Office by two of the body. Mr. C. BULLER wished to know why the names of the proprietors should not be known ? If they were they would take care not to leave the lmsiness of their paper to the controul and superintendeue of worthless agents. Why should not, he repeated, the proprietors be known, in order that they should, if the manner in which the paper was conducted deserved it, he held up to public esteem ; and if it did not deserve it, and that it was made subser vient to malicious motives, or to the purposes of slander, that they should be held up to public infamy.—(llclus) Ho would go farther and say, that if the proprietors were not known, they should not be entitled to recover for their property. Dr. BOWRING suggested the impracticability of adopting such a suggertion as that which had been given. How could it be possibly acted upon in case the proprietors amounted to a thousand persons ? The CHANCgt,LOR of the EXCHEQUER was quite willing to acknowledge the justness of the arguments of the Hon. Member 'for Liskeard in .favour of every fair degree of notoriety being given to the proprietors of News papers. But the difficulty which he felt upon this ques tion was that which had been expressed by the Hon. Member for Kilmarnock, namely, that which arose from a number of proprietors to one concern. He should, how ever, have no objection to have the names of the persons originally engaged in the proprietorship before the Pinar started inserted at the Stamp-office. But he feared that if it were required upon all transfers of shares to heve due notice given, such provision would render the application of capital to the extension of Newspapers almost wholly impracticable. He had it at one time in contemplation to propose that the persons who representegta certain amount of the property of the establishment should have their names inserted, but he was really deterred.from doing so for fear he should be charged with imposing shackles on the Press.—(Hear, hear.) He would now be willing to give such a proposition, if proposed by any Hon. Member, a fair consideration.—(Hear, hear.) Mr, PRYME was of opinion that the object of having the proprietors' names inserted, was in order to answer for any charge of libel. . Mr. J. JERVIS did not see why the newspaper com panies should not be obliged to act in the same manner as the joint stock companies, who upon every transfer were compelled to register. He thought such a change would tend to raise the character of the Press. Mr. PRYME contended that the proposition of the Hon. Member would deteriorate the character of those who con ducted the Newspaper Press, because there would be many persons deterred from embarking in such a speculation if the responsibility referred to were imposed upon them ;• and if the better class were by that means excluded,;,t would throw this property and the control over it, intP, much less respectable hands. the o Lord SANDON was of opini on th a t i t was contrary to pen character of all our customs and institutions that , the proprietors of Newspapers should not be known, and be made respoteole for every act which they committed, to the same degree that they were in their individual capacity. It struck him that Newspaper proprietors, in the same way as, the steam companies and other companies, should be bound to register on every transfer of shares. Dr. BOWRING would be glad to know by what ma chinery a register to the extent desired by the Right Han. Member for Liskeard could be procured? The case of joint stock banks did not in his opinion apply to that of Newspaper property. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCP:EQUER was quite ready to assent to the principle of the proposition of the Hon. Member for Liskeard, but as the question was one of some importance he would suggest that the amend ment should be deferred until a further stage. The only thing he should then stipulate for was, that in any arrange ment to be hereafter agree(' upon, no unnecessary checks should be imposed upon the transfer of the shares. It should not, for instance, be required that each transfer should be registered at the very time the change took place. His view was, and he only gave it as an im promptu, that there should be a quarterly or half-yearly register, and that it should not be requisite for a party transferring his shares to change such register until the ad vent of the ensuing period. If they were to require each transfer to be placed upon the Stamp-office books on the day of its date, great inconvenience and expense would be imposed upon that department. Mr. C. BULLER was of opinion that in the event of,a general registry of pr o p r i etors, wh i ch it was now probable would take place, it would be very desirable to constitute the Stamp-office registry conclusive evidence of title in newspaper property. If this were done, the trouble and expense of transfer deeds would be saved. Although the Right Hon, Gentleman had been tolerably explicit as to his views, be (Mr. C. Buller) hoped he should be pardoned in asking him if it might go forth to the public that his sug gestion had been adopted by the Government. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER entirely assented to the principle of the suggestion, but reserved for further consideration the machinery by which it should be carried into effect. Had he not been afraid that by proposing such a measure, lie should have laid himself open to the charge of imposing greater restrictions on the Press than his duty as Finance Minister required, he should him self have made such a proposition to the House.--(Hear.) Mr. WARBURTON fully concurred in the proposi tion of the Hon. Member for Liskeard, which he was glad to see so readily'taken up by .the Government He hoped , however, that in its framing care would be taken to pre vent a proprietor from registering his name on the - first of Jannary, and then on the 2d putting down the- name of an irresponsible person. He thought the principle should be, that the party receiving the profits of the Newspapers should be made liable for its !aches. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER should bear in mind the Hon. Member's suggestion. 'Mr. WAKLEY expressed his satisfaction at finding the Government favourable to the proposition of the Hon. Member for Liskeard. He merely rose to suggest that the Bill for the extension of the rights of copyright to. 116 wapper publications would present a more fitting occasioni for the introduction of the proposition than did the measure • under consideration. Mr. BUCKINGHAM suggested that it should -- be made compulsory on each newspaper establishment to publish the names of its proprietary at stated periods in each year. It was his great wish to see the newspaper preSs of England edited for the most part 'by the parties a e i d e.l t a ha nott as riev‘P in - whom the property was vest e d, beeSeir d iN d G to copyrights ha , I h S e s e refrain from expres4n g hi s regret that the Bilt u n d er consideration did not contain Provisions for se cur i ng i t. It might have been, in his e l opinion, 'with great propriety introduced. If, however,that wm deemed inexpedient, he trusted that no time would be. lost in bringing forward the supplemental Bill. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observ ed that the subject of newspaper copyright was under con sideration, and that though it was one of sonic &Acuity, ho had every reason to hope it might form the subject 'of legislation during the present session. He thought, • how ever, it was requisite to have it in a Bill distinct from the present. They were then considering a measure of revenue, in which it would be neither convenient or in accordance with precedent to introdvice the matter alluded to. He would take that opportunity of alluding to another topic, on which several representations had been made to him— he alluded to the manner in which the stamps should im future be distributed to the several papers. He did not feet N