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r of use , 11,,1t tiesi Duc e the , ore ,e 1).• res re- ues - not vier tiiil! be° pl a' A r 10 %I n i rro ed r an. !r) • 11 , h ati Do: I " i” .01 3( di'" z i 0'; ( 1 4 ; 3 " jr sc ,ora Lt 74' • • t? u ;~he t L .tiset it3;;'" J• her' cYr 1..1 1 1.; c 7 frO ril yQt a t 0 36. JOnes k:'.o'`, v. I ° , v :!• trtl t , • Ix • )11) OfQ"'„'' Div ° Ili1; 11r‘ 131114: O foi,' bo on' t wit 0 ' 0 l'` would it not . be tOce e ,nrech "to demand at the man should. be contineed in prison because c onscientiously -be b a d-. erred . .?--.Seppose - - .fortes' heed since hit first confession changed his opinion, zt , id that his refusal to petition pktKet . ftied frorma con scientious motie, -- e, would, the Right lion. Gentle- Man .wish:to apply .the torture I .Jones 4 to, comply Itith , the Right. lion: Gentleman's. humour, must eiteer act the part of a hypocrie, or consent to lie iti prison. It must be recollected that Jones waa •proseeuted for a. libel, nor was it contended that' this-oft ence.obstruded the proceedings of tee liouse e Mr. W..thert referred to the cese of Stuck dale, prosecuted by the:Artort:ey-General fur a libel the House; as also the , case of Reeves.. The itight Hon. Gentleman bad confounded the crimes 4 4- Drake, Saudon, and Cheering, with that. of "tit es, but they were widely different, and hadask e-Lvehether .this. was the time. to clip the whip of Frivileges. ,The privileges met power. o 1 Parliament were commensurate with the casts. Tile Hon. Geo teinan declared he was not in the House when Jones `vas brought to the Bar. If he-had, he should have voted for sending him to trial as. a means cx; obtain lOg for Jinn - stria justice. He was prepared to con tend that he ought to be dischargedote every princi- Plenfjustice, andsh •uld therefore- ote thr the mu .lloll of his Ho n . aud-L earne d F rien d. • ,Mr. Wi tio n A m explessel l hi i osell decidedly hos- I lle to the p ro p ose d re l ease O f G a l e J ones. H e shou ld dt therefore, for the present, resist the Motion. - Mi. CANNING obseived, • that he was" not the tnasier of the time . at which the present discussion Ilari taken place ; he had not sought lot: thew agitation •it at the present mom. itt ; but as it ,bad been brought forward, it was his duty to give his vote ac cording to the best of his judgment. He was not ene of - those who entertained the smallest doubt of the validity of the privileges of the House of Cont coons, or of the right of exercising them. Those ,„. questions had' been deCided by the House; and, in e that decision, his own individual cpintoteconeuieed. • tit the House'were not asked to,recant, either in- . dividually or in a body ; ,were not asked to give t 'll . the privileges themselves, or.to cad in,donbt the Propriety of their exercise in the present in stance. The sialple .question before them was whether the" punishment which bad bee n already uealt out in the individual who had incurred their v i lispleasurw was - adequate to his offence.' No one .being prepared to say that there %,‘ as any precise or specific duration of punishment proportionate to the 4 effence, and all being left to judge for themselves t ipon that question, .lie could not but think that the Punishment which had been inflitted. was not.in '. e deguate to the offeu e e which had been committed. fie allowed that be felt great repugnance in agitate 'ng the subjet on that particular occasion. He could wish that it bad been postponed at least for k'rtY-eight hours. When, however, it was consider-- e d, that the agitation of the question was not the act • of the party immediately concerned, but of another, it would appear that that was no ground for refusing . to concur in the propused motion. If he thought that the Honourabte and Learned Gentleman had brought f orward this question in consequence of a co:nam e t lication with the iodividual immediately ccincern ede he would be ready to agree with those who C ontended that the choice of time ought to be ern chive against the motion ; but any such com lnuoicatioo he understood the s Hune and. Learned G entleman distinctly to disclaim. There was this al ternative, ought the House to exhaust on the of fence of Mr. Gale Jones else whole of the punistr 4)ent which they were capeble of inflicting on the host aggravated offence, or could that be considered very • severe panishint:nt which must necessarily soon arrive at a termination ? .The distinaion which 1 " had taken- the liberty of ,marking between the mod e in which this motion was brought. forward, `: 11 ( 1 I rte rn,ode in which it might have been brought , orward—in the one ease, with the concurrence of e t he. iirkoile, and in othel without it, applied to ano f,- ther part of the argumentoiainely, the question of vo ntuntacj.. If the apelicaeon to the House were " ) ade without the concurrence of the prisoner, it ~'3 ll lti not •by any means be contumacy in him not to have presented" a petitien, especially as he had im mediately atter the commission of his offence desired m ercy, and as it 'might appear to him that the Professions which were used in vain; to pre ' rent the inflation of - punishment,_ might be used t' vain to shorten its duratiOn. The' question, I. ,,a 4 °Wever, having been brought f o rward,. the 4-4 o bse had to consider which was the most 4 L i vantageous way of, disposing of it. He was • 149 4 one of ihoee who thought it a matter of great co ngratulation that all these questions of privileee / '"re brought.. to issue at the present time. He st ated thi s as hi s s i n ere op i n i on; without imputing . t ante or even indiscretion to any man. The, course i)f circumstances had produced what he did not con ?,eive to be a very desirable" conjuncture. That con iTteture had •however arrived, and must be met'. ;e should not be stispeCted of wishing ~to Oak* tc'ill the considemion of any - circurristanee ei ther lean any apprehension of" a (fired sort, filen the fuer so well described by . • his onourable and Learned Friend near him, the ' e ar of being supposed afraid. He confessed that 4 letugh he thought it would be unfair to allow any kXtritisic consideretion to operate on the manner in I :.: l tte:t the House Might deal with the individual • busy case was under disetassion, yet, that he should t m n With that indi.idteil with more reluctance, if .7 conceived that it would be imagiued by any one that the. question of priVilege was thereby set at `t'st or supposed to he done away. But, on the dis lussien relative to the CoOdua. of the great offen -400 who had since been justly and rightfullx int.; ratsotted und er the werrent of the Speaker, it e d been well argue d t h at i t was on t h e great of fender, and not mi the small alone that the House -°ll ght . to f ee l di spose d to assert i ts authority: - In .. °incidenc e with that argument he was at liberty, wt:lio ut t h e hazard of any induction injurious to his ' e ase of the honour and ditaity of the House, to "wend ilea the House might spew lenity to the rennet' offeiider, without the imputation of fear, . Ceeatase the questibn remained alive in the way Which was thought the must formidable.. For his tart, he saw no more to- fear in- the agitation o f .'i. `t -question than to wish ; but it would still remain irgitated, if the -minor though original offend e r lti t2 , l- r set at liberty. It was no more necessary for .ee.se- to proeced tit the• discussion -of their • " ••:.-;''s with .I\,3r. Gale .Jones jn their power, was uecessazy fur Sir Frencis Burdett to try •• , , . • . the `t:vliei) he, &pew& by pushing h is resistance to au.extent, by-which lie forfeited not only. the •good of thdse Strho, best .kotAir him, but also the favourable sentiments Of ninny in that House, who were, riot of the .namber of hi,s friends. Ofthe latter class he (111 r. Canning)-was - one; ; he. liad,expre4ied his favourable senritriems,, but thesubsequent conduct of the H0n..13 nenet - •doced` rr to recant . them altogether. Under all the circumstances of the cas-!, not thinkingtlial the absence-ut a petition was a. proof of contomacy,On the part of the. prisoner,: and conceaviug. that the,, punishment wilieh he had already sustained was commensurate , to 11;s - otleiee, he was. in: tined - to vote.fox his. release ; -that, by .so doing he should nut in the -srnalleit.,degree„impu, t. a siulle privilege of the House... The Souorroa-GetsertAL. declared, that at that niornent,, on that night,. undkr. all. ,the cirmin-- stances . .presented to their cwt , .idera:ion, li. did not feel called tipin in justice either to the individual or to the House to set aside what had liven admitted on all.han4- to: be, the uniform principle:of practice .ot the. House of.Conunon, Without giving any opi nion as to the vote which he. might be tiispoied to give at aoOtherpeciod, on the presentation Of a peti tion, he repeated,-that on that night, under the ex iStiag - circ•dustances, he could by no Means accede to the ; motion of his :Bon. and Learned. Friend^.- It was a total mistake to say, that by atetition the prisoner would retract his opinions on the question of privilege.; ail be waS• called' upon .tO ^express was, h:s sorrow that he .had violated the - psivileges of the. House. But it had hen - icontehiled th;it the Pri saner had alreidy dedared this orally, and that the • presentation of a PAition a mere form. Bot itr dila case, if it 'became 11:41:testion: whethei• the House. of ConutiOns shoirld relinquish an esta blished • wag - 7 ., or an int!ividual form. ) , from which. he woltld sustain no inconVetuchc,"^, the retdy was obvious to him. TO such - an indivjdiial it might be said, " - roferili -, 7 . z0n fit injuria." If,' the Howl- that:night; for the. first t:rne in the an nals of -I)drl;ainent, departed 'froth their usage, could any on, say that it r&ght not be a fatal blow to their .dignity and author - 4 Referring , to the cases of Santto(l and Clavcridg, he woalif whi(iO of , the two tv is chargeable" with - the greater guilt ? Sandon unques:tionably Sandoti - petitioned, and, was release * in Marsh ; Clavering di ! : not pe tition, and = e+ as not re-leased till June. If, tltt re. C fore, M. ale •Sonr's . were to be nosy , wi.no a having presented. a pettrion, eery' body wouh trestioo the justice ;of the House in not . having released Clavering without a peinion: the individual in:clues:ion pr,:ferred a. eert.in kin of poßuhrrit to a compliaucc with. the-form-, of the House, where was he • injustic, , :ot alaivking him to enjoy it ?--.11. lie were oaier‘!d to be, liberated; he might say, (I Thank' you for. nothing—' You have done what - I do neat 'watt-4 - woli:d rather • stay where Upon the whole,. he ;inc- ino7,! declared, that lie could not bring lornSeif on that . night to break in' upon - an by the infrioge n-..ent cif wiri•eb t tieehara&er, oigoiry,lmd: honour of the Hoose:Consmon,i, would be abludoiled: Mr. W. SMITH had not been accustomed to con . , eider the character, !ignity, and honour of the Honse of Cotninons as residing in points so tioe4sential. The learned . Geo:lernau bound up:in legal •t ram -Inds (unlike his Honourable. and Learnt d Dtiend near hi oh, had seievti,ki some - of the strongest cases . imaginable in slippirt of- Ids 'argument. t He luid adduced two cr,intrasted C.iSes which had be ter. been bored ,in oblivion. He did not recollect the comparatiVe time of thvi imprisonnients of 'Captain Sandon and General Claming ; if Gene 7 ral Clavering had been kept in prison because lie would not present a peotion, acknowledging an offence of which he did not, believe him self guilty, he bad been most hardly treated; and such usage woold not give the. country an exalted sense of the justice - of the House.. Mr; Gale Jones had stood in an unfortunate situation', He had, bzen imprisoned - 'a week longerthan he Might . have been on a ground totally distiti& from any crimi nality of his own ; 'and now many feared to release . him because it was' the vigil of' a t e-tain Saint. A most disgraceful reason ! To punish an individual for a greater length of time, because a certain question was about to be agitated in another place, with, which the House had no right to suppose that that individual had any thing to do, was a most unjust procedure. What had passed since the committal of• Sit F. Burdett to the Tower did not indUce hith to consider that measure more wise ,tban before; biat till the ‘whole-case was disposed of—till the trial (if to a trial it were to come) was over, those who were adiocates for - keeping Mr: Gale Jones in pri son, on such grounds as those to which he had allud ed,. would 'never want arguments to support them. All such considerations :were extraneous. The true question was, if- the party. offending had suffered a punishment adequate to his offence. Conceiving that he had, he should vote for the motion. • Mr. .MARItYATT thought the duration of the pu nishrnent of Mr. Gale. Jones had been Sufficiently long. • -Sir J. lIALL contended, that if the Huuse.did not releas6Mr. G.Jle loves till he they woutt then keep him in prison. lag_ during their own pica ' mire, but during the - pleasure of Mr; Gale Jones himself. He did not conceive - that the House should be restrained by any, consideration from doing justice. • . , - Mr. WitzenFolleuFaskt;d if .the duration of. the. /! punishment - was already propriloned to theoffenco, bow. it could possibly be extended with justice. .As had been well Uy the Right Hon.. Gentleman, having already cAtablislizd.their. power an a.greaser offender, the - House were .nacre. at liberty to remit the pinaishmenLailie less.. Although he.confessed that there were painful cireu.tnstances.attending the agitation of this question, yet a; oft the wh'ole nap— pearcd to him that M. Gale hanee.s.rinnislinictit ha4' been sullitient, .he should .vote, fue: ration. Mr. WARDLE_ trusted that on. no very cliatantatday: the main question of the power ofthe tiollse to imprison would be discus,ed. Ha.wculd theastate the grounds of his opinion that no such ppwerr.! existed. Mr. CROJCER ObjeaChi to the motion, on the - soi.e ground,that was in opposition to a loilg triiri of uninterrupted precedents, oti ;.vtioriple ucirer hero totore questioawd. Ir — any•deviation from s••cl) rn established usage couid be:drriitted;••. lie At.:pi rea,ty to allow that theprise. t Was 'a tit •case ; but Aviten hi recolleeied; that in ILO' who7e h4iniy of Pariia.... . inept there was not . a single irt.'ance.of, such a da viatioti, he could not think that this -was the parti cular case-, or.. this the particular time Nt filch should induce the I:louse to depart. from theit long esta blished Customs. - , Mr.13.1...vius observed,. that the Home were call:. ed upon to do ilO less than to depart from an unin. terrUpted Hoe of precedents.. At What time too ive!e they so- called upon ? At I-time when those privileges were . questioned, essential• to tt consti- Rijn!) of . the riouse.of Commons, without which` it con!Ll ey_kst; without Vhich it 6otiid not resist. the encroachments- of the Crowth• or protect the privileges,of the , P&Opie. He had: no disposition 'to oress fof s . t..vere punishment upon the offender; grezlt was it that he was required to do Ile was 1(.-.(itlired . merely to approach the with . that due humility which was proper for a per, - on, in hist situation.. ,What was; the peculiar merit of- Mr. Gale. Jones that the House should do that in his mse they had. never:done before? He could not conceive that under. such circum skaces it was Unjilq to refuse to liberate nny The fau!t was the indi - vida..rps 6!,vn, Above ali,• - he deprecd!ed iii.: success of the m , :tion at such a mo uric:at as !lie present,, and cobjored the House not to accede to it. Mr. H. Aunt N0.T0: , :, adverting to the. able state• - merit of the 11 , glit'lionotrrable th‘l Speakeriobserv ed,- that the gerier,dityof the ca-es adduced by that high authority, might probably differ from the case Of Mr. G ile Jones. The i nib's , ualS. to .w hOtri,"thoSe. cases referred - , .had perhaps • been committed to Newgote without having expressed any contrition.. Now its he understood (tor he was n o t pres ent ) Mr: G - ale Janes expressed .hiscorurition at :the Bar in is most decent and becoming manner.. It - w3B 11,t • common to. tummit after the express:on of Mich contrition,. At the same time he would say . ) , that had he -been present he should have voted for the_ cbwtnittal of Mr.. Gale Jones, not a, a punishment, but as an - example to deter others from the conamis sion of stAfilar offendes. Mr. Jones's viva voce contrition was a sodof petition that' he Might , not be sent to' Ne Argite at ad rind might. be considered as a petition virtually 'continuing to the House io release biro dtt twit- peasure. Thinking the ptioish mentAtat Mr. Gait! Jones had undergone sufficient,. be shiini,l tote tbr his release. Mr. OWEN contended, that justice required-that tie If.ruse should regard their own - privileges, acid !: a Mr; GaLt-jories ought to present-a petition be to: e .they :• , g.ee to iris release. It was net im -Ir:oh:fut. that former 'P rotirmitt - s Considerediliepre -tiling. a petition as 44 part of the punishment of the offender. - . • • • W, W1:N:;2 was the last man who would ak: n - • the. privileges or- authority of the 'House, hui the ad'oplion of the present motion would not in, his oi,ini.)o endanger crater.. With. respO.t, to the.. ca:ie of (4en.Ciavaing,„ which had been alluded .to, he had abitained froin moving the release of General . C:avering before the cad of the. Session, bectuse he cntreived, that it would be a lighter punishment to remain irl..prison a month longer than lie might have done,, than to be brought to the Bar of the House, and receive.a reprimand from the .Chair.. He re— gretted the day that had been selected for this tn.)tion, but when he eojisidered that it it were not ;.:,...'optect r.)-aay',•it catild.not, in all - probabillty, be brotv,ht 14ward again for a fortnight; when he •al,o eon stdert-d tha, the punishment of Jones had. been s,,f ticient for his otlence , (which was one that he .had no hesitation in declaring deserved punishment), he could not withhold his consent from it. . Amin, notwithitariding what had fallen froin an Honotirable 'Gentleman on the floor (Mr. Bankes); was yet inclined to doubt whether the rule 'requiring - petition previous to enlargement, was a rule invariably 'observed. He apprehended that there had been instances of liberations without peti-, tions, .but'this he would not . take upon himself to assert posititely. It= was however an usage, and then the questi:m was, whether .it was . ari usage 'aniounting to a law ? If it was an usage amounting - to a law, then it brought down the right; of coMulittnent to a right of committing for con tempt in the narrowest sense- , -contempLiti the nay rawest sense was physical obstrudion, in that case the vet 4 son'coromitted was necessarily, bound to ac I nowledge .his ()Once as a security against the retie;. tition of it.. Here then theregulatiou might - be.said to be - inveterate law, but then there were construe= tine obstruaiohs respeding which the House in the , e,c'cisd- of their jtidAtnent had, a wider latitude of discretirm. The exercise of that discretion must; of course, vary according to tile circumstances of (hal:rent cases ; they did not question the right of the privilege itself, nor at all wLlaken' -it 'by such a variation—since. die disct,Ssion was not Upon the existence of the privilege ; but upon the ex tent- and degree to tklich it had been miolated, and lie thought:that their •nOt being tied down to a strict observance of the same urkilorm Picceedings, in all cases rather strengthengd 'than Avealsened theft pri vileges,"whcreas the twinning the breach to the narrow ground of mele,C o.nempt; .%‘ lak ill& Out of the, :class of constrolivo obstruct it: n reda,c ing to that of plrsical'obuttv:tions mer,,y. It the,i the case now befuie them was not one of fikese, but, a construetive obitruttion, then the question was 'reduced to one of distributive justice,. and 'looking at it in the light of a question of dist( ;butive justice, he had no hesitation to say, that the arguments of the Right Honourable and Learned Genth-man (the Master of the Rolls) were tinans •.% et able, If then it, „ cpu appear that justice was tavonr rhe;mown, , IN hat was art& that lothie *um ? He thought, fir his part, that it wonld_shew more Courage to do their duty opetily, and in defiance of 'vulgar CaluMny, than to be, , clet, rrtql from, it by the 'fear of being atraid—th4 had demonstrated their pdWer not to be at - a!l , afraid of -cUmmiiting their authority by the liberation of Mr.,JOnes. He shan't! suggest, however, to his Learned Friend,, the pr&- priety of substituting WLidnesdi9r in his Resolution in - toe place of Tilesday, on account of .the popn i far meelips to be held on that day in Westminster Hall. • . Sir SAMUEL. ROMILLY readily accedeclA.o-the sug gestiop of Mr. Adatn, and varied the wording of his ; Atli°luticm accordingly. He coeid not as easily ac cede to the •suggestion of a Right Honourable Gen-- Ili:omit respetling 'the inserting , in the Resolntion a .thal from' tiiii , ch he. (Sir • 8 whitely ti,ht cledared•the House, in his hutnbleindgotent, had not any right t - He p ex &, t hought neces,ary, °wet, r„ :v read from the , Journal. what ikiaS there recorded rd speaing-that submission. It there appeared; that . Mr. Jones had, When called to the Bar; eitpre , Seci his sorrow for having erred therein. He said that he did not rises to add any thing to the strcrig Rego , - ments brought forward in support of . his metion, but to observe - updtt' one or twhi- indireet insinualiona which had been thrown out a,gaihst his motives in bringing forward this tnuiiun. It Lad been said, * in allusion to.the Westininqer Meeting, that was to take place to-inerrow, that the opportunity had been anxiously wit':hd• for, or eagerly catight at. If aoy rnan thoudt.t that he (Sir Shini.ei) . con:d be so influenced , ' iinthat. or an y . ohlier proceediog, to that Man he would not condeseend josh He could not. have foreseen, when he had wally given notice of this•itiotion, that it Would not.have Come on till:then: . Neither could , he, with pro. priety, haVe consented to poatpene it fill after the recess, as that would . be dehlying for three . weeki froM the time first fixed upon tor the eul a rge t nebt of the person, in ca se the House should then . agree this Motion: This Was no trillieg consideration to a-trian in such ill-health as he underchocelhhlr. Jones to be. Anotherconsideratiorhin favour of bringing • on this,diseussion. raflierbefore than after the meet- 7 ing at Westminster was, that he could not he cer tain thht there rnight*.not he Resolutions proposed to which' lie(IVI-r. Jones') Was not atall instrumental. Ile might yet sutler iii conseqtlenec: of the nature of. ; . shell Resoltuihns., makidgft-rather a delicate -mat- ; ter to submit that proposition : to the Moose. Sir Samuel then ptoceedetl to, argue briefly that there was 'noievariable'rpleotriniring petition on the part *of the- prisoner,. since the Warrant. stated /simply. during pleasure ;" whereas;. was , that , the rule, it :ought to contain . .also the words and until .the said prisoner has:shbrnittedto the House." - Aro- Iher thing that sheaved the usage not so • general was, ..thatdifle-reot Gentlemen did not agr-e among each other as to: the fthins of the praelice--i-as whethetethe petition should simply express sorrow ; or, also - cerilesS : guilt, end acknowledge the_juS- . dee r ,of the pimislitneot. • A_ Right Honourable Gontlethan had denied that the punishment* was. Sutficiently severe. This was not to be ar gued upon---4t was'a, matter of feeling. He had been charged with soplihnnh and a blbw had been given by anticipanon to Bills now - 'pending, and in the . ..uccess of which: he, acknowledged he felt a lively interest. The' . uphn Which they had been founded was said to be a sophism, but he felt consoled by the assurance,• that we a , ever were their . riaerits, the 'House would not peejedge them. But_ it had been' said that the punishment, for contumely was a poniShment for an offence in addition to the first, and that it was in- Ms. Jones's power to• ter minate, that punislitnenth--Thete was a- law•ouce very prevalent indifferent parts of th . e" and he 'believed now: existing in s seme countries, that no malefactor condemn e d fora capital otthece* should , be. executed before- he - had confessed' his ' crime, and.this, confession wesevorted by the tor tote rack. The cases of Ciavering and. Seuclen had , been relied upon, but they really appeared as cases . that ought. to have - been cited, in order to skew the injustice of Stich rule—Sandon_ was committed for prevarication pf )a very gross and, wanton nature-- the other was cortenitted for preverication by no • means so aggraveted. Bandon 5f2....t in an atjeit - tition, acknowledging his guilt, and. was folthwi disc:hat - 3yd; the other continued a pri son e r t he whole of . the 'Session, rather than say that he was conscious of ptevarication. He might plead con , lesion of understanding, and so, far comparatively re deem his charseter. It had been said that- the, pun islunetit wegh after all, limited, as he must he en larged at the end of the Session ;- but this meant rather that' their power Was limited, not the punish ment, for the King was not bound to prordgue . a 'Patliament—and thus the liberty of the subject was transferred to the pewer of the Crown, - and was that a state in which the criminal jurisdi6tion of that House ought to remain ? He concluded by a so , }emu declaration, that if he, werein the situation of iqr. Joint Gale Jones, he would sacrifice his liberty, - highly as he valued it, .before he would consent to . purchaSe it by . a' pititut.rqtraOation of hiseval semi merits, - compromising his -charaEter, and violating his integrity. The kiheSe then divided', when the numbers were-- • For the mofion' Against it . - - r6u - Majority against it Mr. WALLACE wished to state to the House A f 4 a which had just come to , his knowledge: ,Sub sequent to the publication of the-sgeech of the Hoti. 13<u - onet opposite, he understood an 'apology had been sent by the 'editorof the :paper in which it ap , peared i • • - Sir J ANSTRUTHER wished it to be understood he ,had not caused in any way the sobjeet to be brought forward. He did not know that it was theinten. tion of the Honourable-Gentleman opposite to takd up . 'the subjea, or he would, have desired him to give up his design, and let it alObe. lie'first knew of The offence fi otn the receipt of the apoL);:y. Mr. WALLACE confirmed -the- stateme.it of ihe ,Bight Hon. Baronet, as. Li; . his . being •wbolty unlc gnainted with his mtentions.---[Elere- the Conversa tion eildedj. _ , . . . Mi. WHITBREAD wed to know, now they liaj reached tilt, 16111 of Aiifil, in - what state of for wardness the arrangements were at the Stamp Otiice, which were to ha've been completed in the preseht Thont h. It' they :were not likely to 13±.t.,cotn pleird before May, he should make some motion on the subjeti. Mr.'WHARTort replied, 'that when he came into "Ofike he was told, that though the business . . Was complicated; it might be got through with by April. .In auswer to ;els renewed inquiries, he had beet, in formed it could. not be arranged as early as was ex peac-it ' ~, -- • -- ' . Mr. WmiTßßEADihen gave notice that he'would matte a motion On the subject shortly after the holi dvs. lie must .say, Oaf if the business had been set, about as an individual would go about his own concerns, it would haVe been completed long ago. COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY. The House, baving.resolved itself into's Commit tee of Supply, IVlr. WHARTON', after some observations, moved, that a sum not exceedirtg 548,4811. be grated for Ott expetice of Barrack's. T.ie excess above the vote of last year, he observed, was occasioned by the \~'