The Sun. — London, England, 1808-02-06 00:00:00

Such a most - tie, without due emu:Aeration. They eoul . d certainly not gay now, if they bad altered their opirnou upon the question, that it was lawful for them alone: to violate the law of nations, and that the door was shut against all infraction of that law from 'the moment when they retired froni office. It was now a time for indemnity for the Order of If3ol,.because upon that principle they should make reparation for all the measures that had been taken under that Order, restore all the Ships caPtnred, and repair 211 the loc.gei - sustained thereby. The Noble 'Lord had said that the Order of 1807 was only a slight departing. from the rule of 17,A; But if ever so trifling, it was still a departure, and au alteration of the law. It was not to be supposed that the late Ministers had adopted their measure in the dark.— Their's was the departure from the law of nations; the late Orders were only in conlertnity with that law, upon . the principles of retaliation, and upon these grounds, he should support the motion of his Right Hon. Friend, for referring the - Orders to the Committee of Ways and Means. Mr: WINDI-14111 could not bring himself to ' think that the argameniunt,ad hominem, the conti nual allusion to, and comparison with, the measures of the late Administration, as a justification of those pursued - by the present, was a mode of argument consistent either with the importance of the subject tinder consideratiOn or the gravity of the person by wljom it was urged. Still more was lie surorised at . the extent to which the Learned Gentlemall seemed disposed to Carry the new doctrines which he had broached that night. Much stress had been laid by both sides of the House on the due observance of the Law of Nations. It would, however,, now appear that, though the laws of nations might be extremely veinal)* yet it w-re absurd to be bound by them, when it was fintrai l convenietit and use to infringe them. But if that were the ease, of what value could they be considered of ? Whu could force nations to refilled them, when they should pear contrary to the interests of nations ? The same might be said of mural law. By what tics or re straints would the society 'of ,men be then regulated and bound f Most not , such doctrine drive at the abrogation of all law ? What would laws be more than thirse imtititted at Highgate—laws Inch only enjoined a conditional observance ? As absurd and ridiculous. was the idea set up of retaliation. It would lead to the most strange and ludicrous elites, if carried to the er.trerne whTeh was iusiouated, which seettzed ,. to be iutended. What I if Mau chanced - to thrust out your eye,. would you, in this spirit of retaliation, thrust oL.t the eyes of the blind al.tu ? ' Such, however, kvere.the absurdities' in which such doctrines were entangled, 3UCh ale in sane consegnenees to which we tintst.be 'driven, if any utility, however slight, were to justify the in (tint:mew of the law of nations. It Buonaparte enforces, fur example, one of his mad decrees at flatnbUrgh; are. we therefore justified in extending the sa't'e; severity to the rest of thy world ? Is his man& in chat particular to be a rule fur others to authorize them in adapting similar measures to an unlimited . extent ? Jt surely was ,not enough to consider how such measures of retaliation might operate on the two Powers more immediately con cerned. _lt should also be considered how they might affea a third party ; and above all, bow they might :urea. America. But ,hopes seem somewhete to be entertained that those measures 116 y produce the must distressing. elreOs on the Continent. W e may, it seems, be Ole to starve the Continent,, and still be not ade6ted- ourselves. What sr:o.e the Continent, • and not be affe6ted ourselves ! Is this, then, the manner in Which these vigbrous measures are to effeetume the salvation of the country But it is.likewise insisted that such proceedings belong .to the prerogative of the Crown, and that therefore Parliament should have no columnl over them. If that were true, why make them a subject of, Parlia. meotary discussion ? Why not continue to enforce than', without question or inquiry ?• It is unques • tiopatily the plerogative of the Crown to make War or Peace. No man will dispute it; yet has it •not been the praifice of Parliament, . and is it not in the nature of things', to inquire into the principles and Justice of those wars, or th e p o li c y o f t h e tr e at i es • by which they have been terminated ? Upon old principles it was impossible to reason upon these new doEtrineS. His chief objet in rising was to express edtire disapprobation of such &Laxities, and to entreat Ministers to re-consider and revise. th ese measures. They must own that they were ex ceedingly complicated; and lie could not burthink that a re-consideration and revision olthern was the I more necessary, when , it appeared thin not only we did nut understand our own measures, but, that we were still unacquainted with fhe nature and extent of the French Decree upon which they were founded, and which they were intended to conu tera6t. Tha MASTER ,of Me ROLLS rose to explain, and declared that he was not conscious of mtering ra syllable that could justify the Hon, Gentle- man in imputing to hint the dnariales which h e was said to have laid - down-no such ! ideas' lead ever :en-, tered his mila • . ,!? : - . Sir 4. NOGOTT sai+l, more pains had beet, taken to shew that the Order in Conned, issued by the late Administration, was wrong, than to prove the Orders since issued by the present Ministers were right. Ue was much deceived, or his Ma jesty's• Government would in a month, perhaps in a week, :regret the consequences to which these mea sures would give rise. He must therefore unite ha the wish and advice of his Eight'Hon. Friend, that be foto it was, too Ltte, Ministers would coutens to reconsider and revise thdrri, Oct seriously examine how far, under the circumstances that were likely to arise, they should adopt or reje4l them. At all events they should not be pressed now. The House should pause and retlea how ruinous their etreets :night prove to our trade;, more especially how they in i g nt afrekt our intrrcoupo with Amertca, almoat the only Power with whom we now hail , to remain at amity. If they, or any Neutrals, could carry on .tty trade -at all, the whole of that trade must be. car yied on through this Country, and under such regu- Lnions as we mays Ouse to impose upon it. Why then hazard cutting up our trade altoge i ther ? As to the Order in Council I:if.Tannary )807,.it never was intended. to justify it on the principle of retaliation. It never was conceived in that Spirit, or intended to ba enforced on that ptincipler. I,t was, therefore, Our Plymouth Letter fully confirms the assertion which. we have uniformly made, in opposition to several of our eotemporaries, viz: that Sir Alen AIII) STRACUAN had sailed in pursuit of the Rochefort Squadron. It appears that the gallant 'Admiral hav ing boen blown off his station, was not apprized of their sailing for some days. The moment, however, lie obtained intelligence of their escape, he sailed in quest of than. -lie was seen by the Growler ou the 28th ult. in 46. N. lattil. 5. .W. . The following is an Extra6l of a Lettcr :en Officer belonging- to Sir, 11,1cumtn STILACkI4S . I . Squadron, in Lit. 4G. long. 5. •to a person at l'iy mouth, dated the 28th gt, ;rim itoolufort Squadron sailed On the t6th January. Sir IlicuAitp did not hear of it till the 2-IA, they have therefore eight dayi start of us, with e fair wind. The aesar carried away her ruaiti-yard, btit took that of the .D.imega/ i we are Leven Sail. Sir lizottAtto told the Captain of the Donegal that nothing bAttheclibtance lie would have to go induced liit to . take tier yard. From that it is litippsed their destination is the' West In dies." A Debate of considerable length took place last night in the Hauge of Commons, upon the subject bf the Orders in Council respecting .the Trade of Neutrals. !iVe beg particularly to refer our Readers to the very able Speeches. of the Ca..N0E41,08 of the ExcluAtmu . and the NlasTstt of the llom.s, as the l y contain a most unanswerablevindication of the conduct of the British Government. Lord PETTY , • who originally opposed. the Motion of the Chancel. .lor of the Exchequer, did nut think it e:ipccilent to take the sense of the Rouse upon the question by. a division. In .speaking of the probable etYeet of the Orders of, CQUOCii upon America, the Cu tlcet..4 LOU of the Excutmuea observed, that apprehensiens had been expressed that they would iuduCeAtnerica to go 'to war with uq. He hoped and ~ trulted,not • no One would regret such an event more than WM.. self. - He 'was far from entertaining the idea that we might redeeru our own losses by the sufferings of America. Loss to America wOnid be eventually loss to Great .I:tritain ; and as he hoped that Peace would bepreserved, he. believed that if might be preserved. • Tier MAsanY Will hold a Drawing-zootu on Tio ,day. Yesterday morning the Dukes nrYottmatid ept, antnua arrived at,Windsbr, and trinisacted I)usiness with hiS MAJESTY; atter whic,h ltis MAJKSTY, the Duke of Yoati.,. PrilICC3.iC5 AUGUSTA, SOPtilA, and accompanied by Lady GUORGIARA BUCK-, LLY, Generals MANNING:HA:I4 and F 1 17.110 Y, and Col. Talvt.utt, rode in the Great Park, and returned at twelve (i'Llock. Her Mumivit and Princes ELfzAucru took nu airing. to Friigtnore. Oa Wednesday Lis MAJESTY'S harriers huntedin Windsor Park, The Madrid Cavite contains the official details of the actio►►s at l4enos Ayres they are of great leng►h. LIN MRS assert's, that tile Ell„Ilish army loSt . 4001) men in the. first attack. It is also stated that Gen. WniTimootte Made hi►it a present of a sword, as an acknowledgment foi the humanitkshewn by the Spanish Commander to, the English prisoners and the wounded.' In return, Gen. pre-; sented spine valuable Minerals, and other curiosities, to Gen: WHITELocKe. & great change, it is said, is about to be ope rated under the influence of BUONAPAitTE, in 'the Government OW.pain. It is said that the Prince of AsTun tAS is Xo,be declared Sovereigt; both of Pon. tugal and Si/44AM that his father is to'abdlcate the` throne of Old:latter Kingdom. In return for the 'acquisition of Tortugal, Spain is to cede :Porto Rico and Cuha 1941uoNANARTE, and to grant to Vrance a free trade with her South .American posses ions. Other neeett . 4ts state, that, on the `..7th of Decem ber the Que4in of f!: , ritutt IA had arriitd at Madrid, on her way fu. Portugal, where she was tq be in vested. with. the supreme authority as Queen and Gnardian of her infant son the King. 1,.411/ REPORT'. Consols putaishest by WziLIA •itoricia Scan's*, of South Mohan. street, Grosycnor-SiDtarci LoNDoN Prig tett RICHAIID Ha ti, of LID. 4, Martictr-folirt, Uovv,street; find At tbie SIM .Orvica Str3nd wher c . are? liseltivals Qtderi Itle .l4 4P.er, I ale: fot this alitor, itc (Pollfisid) s rpnx be. actdre4l6l. COURT OF KING's BENCH, Fss. THE KING 11. PICTON. The Court having intimated a .wish that • 11* case 9hatild be turned into a special verdia, on .sc" count of the great .importance of the questious? be considered ; it now only stands over IV tu f Counsel to agree, whether it shall go down to #l . t , 6 !' tried again, and a new mandamus issued to takeire" e „ evidence at Trinidad, or whether the case cannot r agreed to be settled upon the record. In this W I . the Defendant will have an opportunity of a blit h ' . appeal, which he could - not have upon a motion I MP a - new trial. • Of Mr. GAR ROW iS expected: to state the intent io n the parties to-morrow. est% ROYAL I-TtrlT..—On Tuesday morning a suin'- 01.1; field of Gentlemen Sportsmen bad a most el" cellitnt hunt with his MA;Erry's stag hounds. Ana • 4 report has been in circulation for son lo.-- b that the Hon. General Si. Jong had been tried f a Court Martial and broken. This statement pc,a(p. to, have been erroneous. General ST. JPAI hays not been tried, but a Special Board of 9 "t c (..)flicers was aointed by his MAJESTY to into bis condu t at the battle of LaSWaree 40 -report of which Board being considered by Commander in Chief as unfavourable, he has cow". munieated to General ST. JOHN, that it is IV O' Majesty's intention to appoint him to any 10 01 1 COI-wand. .0n Thursday evening, Fietkrkk ram° at charged before 'Mr. READ, at Bow-street, w' stealing a tool, •Bank Note, the property of C 4l,l t ) o r Wool) ; It appeared that the Prisoner was aO 4 e, at the Swau with Two Necks Inn, in Laci -14 7,i 4 ahr w 4siist h eu e rr r cl e iola t taom h: Ebhei C ireg a .sl p : t nit a \( i vii n ,oinia l e , ,n u no lg_ ,, e al d pip i or O eu r li. : iin s oc l l t edt O e r ,,, t va ti os : s e to l ,el P .ni ; n of4i , wic o e ' r : cOnfessedihe felony,. Tile committed for trial; • and the partici biPtlnd 0 14 prosecute. , . olopcesi . ef" Died, on Mondly last, the Ist inst. pl4ce, Miry-le:-bone, Miss OCTAVIA . 4S O Aaae, youngest daughter of H. J. HARD494B'•"r of the •Royal Navy, • AARIVID+.I Dublin, 6 Watertord. MAILS. mre! , GOUDA.- I Dublin, z Waterford. • PRICE OF STOCKS TDIS DAY AT TWELVL O'CLOCK• 0 4/ 63 i I Red. Ann. - On Thursday cycnint:, and —0 t B hc iß C T 'o H tintess of AloirJ, of 2 s°'4 DIED. 191% On Saturday last, at Bath, Abr a ham Linda, Esl. 0 1 On Nlonday last, at his house i n Ayrshire, t Ctauturd and Lindsey. Ott Wednesday 1 a t, the Lower.street, flaings"i - 413 10 nth year of her -age, Mrs. Watts, relict of M r. i Watts. I. o w er Tilt same day, suddenly, Mr. John Paxton, 0 - Tharnes.stteet, h ishnumger. 1311 C. YeAerda morning, Mr. I. P. Marchand,' of Siz i e* - 1 4)r, the 4 t h 11 of wvcentber, at St. retersbargh. _Without bond, tornwity of Hull. • HIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE RO W Morning, 38 min after 9. Afternoon, l7 min. after °. MONDAY. 4 mai , A ter t (• Morning, v. min. after 'to. I Afternoon, ". 27 with infinite surprize, that he heard it ampared with the measures that have since been adopted, 40d. in support of which such monstrous doetrines have been' broached and insisted on ; and his stxprize was further increased when he found it asserted, that the` Order of January even went to a greater extent: than the present Orders, and that their spirit and principle were deduced from it. Nothing could be; more confounded, -and nothing could he deprecate' more than a blind and hasty decision upon such im portant and critical points. Mr. EDEpI folloWed on the same side, and dwelt: very emphatically on, the mischief of provoking a rapture' w ith America. The Question was now loudly called for, and the House was at length suffered to go into a Commit tee, without coming to a division. The SPEAKER having accordingly left the Chair, the several Resolutions were ,read and agreed to, pro forma:, after some explanation as to the future pro gress of the proceedings between the CirArtcaLLott of the Excneauca and Mr. TIERNEY, the litinse resumed, and the Report was ordered to be received on Monday, to which day the House adjourned' at a QUARTI:Lt past Two this morning. THE SUN. EALSUM AVDT AT L 0 N 01V, SATURDAY, FEBLIUARY 6, 1808. NAVAL NEWS. gLIIMOUTII, FEB. 4.---Private Letters received here 40-day, state, that the Rochefort Squadron sailed thgnce on the t 6th .ISnuary, and that Admi ral Sir IL STaAdIiAN, who had been blown off his star ion in a gale of.wind, did not receive intelligence of their escape until the , 24th, on which he itunie diately made sail in pursuit of them, 'and it .Was the general opinion on board the Squadron, that the Enemy were gone fur the West Indies. The (Amer lost her main-yard in the gale, which was supplied her from the Donegal. Sailed the Princess Charlotte Frigate, on a cruize. The St. George, of 98 guns, and Donegal, of 74'guns, are come into harbour to refit. The Growler Gun-Brig, left Admiral Sir IL STRACKAN'S Squadron on the 28th'ult. after being four days in pursuit of the Enemy.- They were then under a press of sail, in lat. 46, long. 5. This afternoon weighed from Cawsand Bay the Bellerophon, of . 74 T guns, Rear-Admiral ; I(///e de Paris, of IQO guns; Fallon!, Impeteu.v.and Dqiance, of 74 guns each ; and Dreadnought, of 98 guns, to cruize off Brest, but they were recalled, and are again at anchor in Cawsand.Bay. Sailed the Brilliant Frigate on a cruize to the westward, PoarsuouTn, Fan. 5,--!Arrived the Cosa° mid Guerriere Frigate, having on hoard His Grace the Duke of A4NchesTan, ,from Dungeness Roads, these two Ships having been detained by the 'prevail, lug westerly winds at that anchorage, for several days past. Arrived this day Lct Chilranne Frigate, Capt. IVAINWRIGIIT, from the Mediterranean, with the George, Altiriner, Loyal 13riton, Sir John Boriose !Vitro', Sea I'Vymph, Melpomene, .Lord Duncan, and LatonaTransporti; 111144 Ceres, CooK., and El4za, PUNTER, Merchant Vessels, all of which are under Quarantine; the Goshawk Brig s . Capt. INNEs, and Curriez,. Cutter, Lieut, RAMSAY., 11:0111 the Downs. Cow ,s, FEB. s.—Artive4 the .Bremen Ship lia.nd -147.1g from London ; the Russian Ship Autumn fronA Memel,. bound to I.3ristol, with timber • the Sardi nip) Brig Ronuira from Gibrkdtar, with 14;rilla, found to Loudon. 4.large Fleet of Transports now lie h our Roads, baying troops on hoard for Sivily and Gibraltar, and wait wily a fair wind. They aro to sail tinder con voy of tlie Pe/ler, Lieut. EVELYN. Siteuvicss, FEB. the It - uolivich Store ship for the River. The Centinal Gun-trig has made the signal for convoy to thu Went out cif harbour and anchored at the Little Nore, after receiving an impartial repair, the nos phqrus Fire-brig. Came out of harbour to the Pale Nore His Ma jesty's Ship Ps anchise and the Snake Sloop of War. Passing by several Sail fc)r, the jiver. DEAL; FED., s.—Put.back last {light his Majesty's Ships Sato 4nd Centurion, with the East radiamen, ece. which sailed for Portsmouth in the morning. This morning arrived and sailed for the ;liver, the Union, DrcErNsoN, horn Lisbon, inniqeteep days ; 4 1 19ry-Anti, •Wityre, and the Williquz, Fits ox, from Malta. . • Tlv, following ii a List 4f . the Danish Shipt _of \Var which have been taken into His Ilajesty'‘.ser -Ikc, itua iho sicusacms by ..041;‘,44 thcy !aro to be cllitllls. gUiSlllld : . . C?,,:. , ' • To 6eC4l. l rd Christian the Geteenth - 96 - • . - Blenheim . . Waldemaar . , ts 4 . - . - Yarmouth. Princess SOl/1114 Frederica 74 , • —: C a tri liriOge. fustiee - - 74 - - 0 ricii4. • Heir Apparent Frederick 7.4 . - ' Cornwall. Crown Prince Frederick 7.1 - - . 'Norfolk. Fuen , •.. 7.1 - -•• •• Bengal. Oder; - . - 7.4 - Three Crowns , 74 - - Med Way. SkiolLl" . - - , 74 • . &interact. cruwn Princess Miltiie 74 . - .Torbay. Danmark' - • 7 4 - . Marathon. Norway . Princcus Catalina • ;:: - - Nonsuch. - BiJcanza. 711;GATES. to de called.. Te,be called. Pearl •., 'Theban, . Frecieriestein Teresa. . Honsewife - 'lloreas.',.• Triton* , . - Ilyirrolitus. Iris • - . A laric: • Little Belt - Espion. Rota - - Sensible. . h Fyila - - Lit.:y. •Velius - Levant. - CluCkstalt - Ralson. N yade . ' HeplixstiOn. Eytleten - U t ik. '• . Nymphot , - . Ikterininee. 1.13(). Tv he called. To he called. Glornmen - liritunkart. Sarpe . Voltigeur. Ned Elven . Legere.. Flying .Fish Venteur. Mercure - Tramler. Elvin - • liArlequin. Lord CAsmnite t toit, iti the debateon \Vedaesday, stated a circumstance which is of material import ance.—On the 2d of 'August, at one of his levees,. iIuaNTAPA writ, turning to the kortuguese Ambassa dor, asked him, whether he had transmitted to his, ,Court the demand, that the Navy of Portugal should' be ready to unite With . the other Navies of Europe against England, on t h e Ist o f S eptember ? awing. said this he immediately turned to the Danish Nli 'hister, and asked him whether be had made the same communication to his Court ? Last week Mr. P. W. Tommiss, Historical. E ngraver to the Queen, had the honour of attending at Windsor, to submit to the inspecljon of her Ma jesty and the Princesses the first Number, and the Drawings 'from which the Engravings had been Made, of the &Milt GALLERY Of VICTURES, about to be published under the direction and superintend ance of Mess's. TauffllAn, OTTL/k, and-Tait:lNS, Mien her Majesty and their Royal Highnesses were . pleased to express their warmest approbation of the very superior manner in which the undertaking had been executed, and to countensfice the Work by choir Itoyal Patronage and Subscription. GOT RA WIRT ELOCK E's l 1 LiL, EIGHTIF DAV. • • ' The examination of Lieutenant-Colonel 130t/ilu wits concluded yesterday at twelve o'clock, and that of Brigadier-General CRAUFURD commenced: • .This morning, at the usual hour the Court as sembled, and continued the examination of Oeuerai GRAUFUED, who, when our Reporter left Chelsea, was answering to a number of written questions that he held in his hand. .The Court was not so crowded as upc.T. any of the former days. LIST OF SIIERIFFS ritICKLD BY HIS MAJLSTV, ON WV.I3NESI.) . AY LAST, 1-.7.! 74iE ratr4iwr YiAit. Redfordshire—Rich. Orlebar, of Puddington; Esq. Beritshire—Wm. Congreve, of Aldermaston, Esq. liuckinthamshire—Rich. Dayrell, of Silliugstont, Cambridge and Huntingdon—Sir H. Peyton, of. Earn", Bart. - Cheshire—C. Trelawney Brereton, of Shotwich.park, Esq. Cu inberland.- T hos. I trine, of ( its tice Town, Esq. Derbyshire—Postpoiled. Devonshire—Sir 11. Carew, of ilaccornhe.,Rart. Dorsetshire—Nicholas Chas. Daniel, of Upway, gsq. Essex— john Coggan, of )'an teal. Esq. Cloucestershire—ir Thomas Craley gowey, of Halley Abbey, Bart. • Herefordshire—Sam. Peploe, of' Garnstone, Fsq. Hertfiardshire—jagi. Smyth, of Ashlyn's.hill, ksq. Kent—Cas. Milner, of Preston-park. Esq. Leicesterfliire—l. finch Sithpson, of Launde Abben ESd Lincolnshire—rhe Hon, W. Reauclere, of Radbourne. Monmouthshire— Win. Morglin; of Mainhilad, Esq. Norfolk—l. Thornton Mott, of Ilarmingliam, L5(l. Northamptonshire—C. Fleet Hirai:S t at Saxon, Esq. Northumberland—Cut ocrt Ellison, of Brooniliouse, ESel. Nottinghamshire—l. NlA.lners Sutton, of Ke'lliall" r " ;(1 ' Oxfordshire—The Hon, T. Parker, of Enshain.hall. • Rutlantllan.lshire—'flu's. Bryan, at Stoke, Esq. Shropshire—Ralph Browne Wy Id Browne, of CQYOIeYr /541. Somersetshira—L. Hemeys Tynte, of Haleswell, Lsg. Stallbrdshire—Postponed. County of Southampton—George Hanbury tield.lodge, Esq. Suttblk . —l-4. Vernon, of Naaon, Esq . . Surrey—James Mangles, of Woodbridge, Esq. Sussex- Win. Stanford, of Roston, Esq. Warwickshire— , Postponed. Wiltshire—J. Holton, of G-rittleton, Esq. Worcestersbigt—Sir sohn Packington, of Westwood, Batts Yorkshire—Win. Joseph Dennison, of Ayton, E4.q. Michgll, of 'MO. SOUTH WALES, Carmarthen—Morgan I'rico Lloyd, of Glansevin, Esq. _ Pembroke—John Henblergh Allen. of Carselcy, ski. Cardigan—Morgan toles, 6t Pauthyr Esq. Qlitmorgin —Hon. Wm. Booth pr EttizerYn. Brecon-45stponed. I . ladnar—Thornas Thomas, of Ponkerrig, gsq. NORTH WM.ES. Merione.th-l-Lewis Price Edwards ' 01: - olgarth, Esg, Carnarvonshire—Roberr 1:1101114S Carreg, of C4rces ‘ Esti, Anglesey—Edward [ones, of Croinkch, Esq. Montornerysikire—Robert Knight, of Gwemygoe s penbighshire—Rich, Henry kenrick, Nanidwyckd, ES+ Lloyd, of trcbierthl, Esq.