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i ZRIAL PARLIAMENT House OF PEERS. . • s. THURSDAY, JUNE 9. The House was occupied in a Committee of Pri fileges on - the Banbury Peerage, from two till nearly Ave o'clock.. - Several witnesses were examined, and Sir 5. - ROMILLY and Mr. HARGRAVE were heard as i Counsel for the Claimant; after which, , the further consideration of the claim was postponed till this day sennight. .• • Lord RADNOR moved an Address to Ms Majesty, praying' that direetions be given to lay on the table what further documents may be still found relative to the claims of the Banbury Family.—Ordered.. The Bilis 'on the table were *forwarded a stage each. BLAND's DIVORCE BILL. The LORD CHANCELLOR left the Woolsack, to de dare his opiniOn of the merits of this.case. The Noble and Learned Lord recapitulated, and com mented upon, the different branchei of the evidence which had been produced at the' Bar to induce their Lordships to grant the favour sought for by the Pe titioner. From that evidence it would,appear, that Mr. Bland has for a considerable tithe lived in open prostitution' and adUltery, in the King 's Bench Pri son, with a woman who& he suffer ed to take the name of Mri.Bland,`and towards whom he behaved in - every respea.as' his wife.. Although the . plea of adultery was not always admitted by the wife against the husband, yet this was one of those cases which in his eyes fully authorized this plea. He felt it to be his bounden duty to mark such cases ; and thOr Lordships wbuld, no doubt, feel the propriety of c6ncurring with him in thus vindicating the purity of the public . morals ; with that view he should now move, that the Bill, be rcjeaed. The Noble and Learned. Lord then resumed his seat on the Wool sack, and put the question, that the Bill be rejeled, and, it Was rejeaecl without ,any opposition.—Ad )ourned. / HOUSE OF COMMONS. 'hiURSDAY, JUNE 9. - Mr. ASHLEY COOPER presented an Acconfit of the Stores taken at Copynhagen, distinguishing the qinintity and quality of the different kinds' of Stores. Ordered to lie on . thejable, and to be printed. Mr. DAVIES .Grrair brought up the Report of the scuteir . Clergy Bill, which was agreed to, and the Bill ordered to to - e• read a thlid Clint! to-morrow. • Mr. DAVIES Ginpy also brought up the Report of Alr. Palmer's Annuity Bill, and on the question that the Amendments be read a second time, Mr. Bankes restated briefly his objedions to the measure, and proposed an Amendment to the preamble, upon , illicit the Gallery was cleared for a division`, though Oa: sense of the House, as. we understood, Was not alterv , :ards taken., upon tha Amendment. • The Amendments of the Committee were then severally zig,...;‘ , (1 . .t0,. and the Bill ordere' to be read a third trine ‘.; Ihti engrossed. •.• Or.lerd, on the motion of Mr. LONG, that there before. the House an Account of, the Regula tioiis wit:pied; by the,Coturnisioners ,of. the, British Musettrn since the • last Rennin; and,, also, an Ac cititit of th6'•Number, of Persons adinitted,to view ilia Institutibn, and,to read there, since June i etol, di';t i .each-month, _ brought up the Report of the Commit! tee on Mr. f'aliner s accounts.--Ordered to lie on tb,• 'zind L' printed. • iAs', ettruat then gave notice, that he 16 .v.h.)141.1, iu the Committee of Supply, i t , .t, tha t In c b.int, contained in the Report, be il;ti to Mr. Pd/IIW. • 1 cpurt of &Ir. Palmer's Bill,. Mr..*Bi . INKO 14 . 41 'tioutdd be re-Committed; and . was op• • uy Sir 'l'. Turwu. iota•the.. 6 allery was cleared,. we understood the ER to have stated the amendment ,to be,con tiar) to the practice of the House.. Thetuotion was tr„..tived without a division. JEISMINSON presented several Accounts pur fitiAllt t, Oidees-ot t;to House, the nature of which we could not cullect.—The accounts were respeCtive ly Ordered to lie on the tame. . IMPROVEkILN (S LN WESTMINSTE Mr. LoNG bro - uglit up the Repoli of the Corn 11titeilpovni appointed to consider of the In; proVemen ts necessary to oe,inade in the avenues to Westminster Hall, and both Houses of. Parliament. Report ceittain4 a .recom tnendAtion tliat sum of the 7.5,7201. stinuid be grafted in the present Session of Parli4- ment for co:hpleting theseimprovernetits.- 7 Ordered 0 lie ‘4,:i the table and to be printed. 111 r. LONG. then ~ taye notice, that he should on Dilutt:ay, - rn the Cotitinittee of Supply, move the gbotot tl,e.soin recommended In thelieport. Bills ‘vera brought up, pursuant -to . - the leave of tiie House,. tat, to amend the bialt Adu, and for reg‘iLlting Maltsters in Ireland; t4d, .for regulating the.grantihg of Permits for Excisable Articles in Ire laiid`; 3tl, t , ir the Encouragement of the British Fist.erio ; 4t - h to ehable the Conainis,sioners fur Auditing Accounts, and 'for the .Affliirs of to - tend Packages free, of Postage ; and sth, a l iii :or the better protection of ()pier l'islicries. Tot*: 1;ills were read set eraily .a first time, , and ortivrt. LA, the .four first to be read a second time to.' morrow, toe last '6ll Monday nex,t. ivlr. .BLBESVOIth presented a Petition from the 'county of Waterford, in favour of the claims of the Cathofics. The Petition had only reached his hands yeSterd:l) . 7 -Ordered to lie on the table. . • Mr. JaNKINSON presented, a Petition from the Pilots of Dover, Deal, and the Island of against, certain provisions in the Pilots Bill i .and pray in,6,l4) be heard by Counsel nglinst them.—Ordered to lie on the table, till the ithther COnsideratiou of the Pilots' Bill, which was then postponed to Mon day Der.% CARNAI IC, Sir T. TuRTON, i; 4. the 1 . -:citicst of Mr. - Sheiid4n, in . cOusetiocooe of the .ittantiiiy of au. lion. and Learned kriend'(Dr. Lawrence) to attend on l'hurb day next,. 'put off; tiro &notion of which he had given iiotice for that day, miative to the Ci:t ti3tiC, to Ifri. day. VACCINATION. Frosi, purSuant to his notice, rose to can the attentiOn of the House to the; important . subject. 'be objet he ba(.l in vi,:w Was . , as the etabli,iied rnstiatt . toti tulgt.t not_ prove adequatesto its purpose; t.,f the falling off .olprivato suts.C:ip•: ~~i~a~lS%~.: tiorii, to establish a public and central InStitution in London, whence the real vaccine matter would be distributed to all parts of the Empire. • He proposed that the PTesiderit and fOur Censors of the College of. Physicians, and a certain number of the College' of Surgeons, should be placed at the head of this Institution,‘Ad whom all doubtful cases would be re-, (erred. The Right Hon. Gentleman, after detailing all the circumstances of the case at Ringwood, and affirming that, though it. could not be said that the vaccine disease was A certain security in all cases against the Small-pox, yet the evidence in its favour shewed, as appeared by the Reports of , the,Colleges of Physicians and Surgeons, that the failures were not one in' three hundred, concluded by miring , a Resoltition in substance, " that the House, having under its consideration the Reports of the Colleges of Physicians and Surgeons in London,- Dublin, and Edinburgh, was of opinion, that .great public benefit would arise from the Establishment of a central In stitution in .London, for the distribution of the vaccine matter:* He had only to add,,that the ex pence would not be more than from 25001. to 35001. per annum. The several Reports having then been entered as read, on the question being put for agreeing to the Resolution, Mr. DAVIE'S GIDDY did not mean to oppose- the Resolution, though he thought it would have been much more desirable to have left this matter to•.take its own course. It was a wild and extravagant idea to suppose .that Small Pox could be exterminated. The *pie would, in. the course of a few years, km-. der such an hupresSion, negled the, precaution of inoculation for the Small Pox or Vaccination, and then the disease would break out with tenfold seve rity. Mr. FULLER warmly supported the Resolutiopi on the ground that the Small Pox had been extermi nated at Calcutta by the establishment of such an Institution, with proper persons at the head of it. Sir THOMAS TURTON would have wished that the motion 'of the Hon. Gentleman had been for a CoMmittee to inquire into the State of the vaccine matter in this country.. Lord H. PETTY warmly suppprted the Resolution, upon the supposition, however, that no compulgory measures would be resorted to for promoting Ilse objects of the Institution. _ Sir F. BURDETT would regret as 'much as any Hon. Member, that this discovery. should not be found efficacious in preventing the Small Pox, but was afraid,. from the alteration, which had taken place in its complexibn, that it was to be' considered only as a failing experifnent. The .referring the failures to the use of spurious matter, he considered only a shift on the part of those who supported the experiMent. Upon these grounds, he thought it ,wmild have been much better to have appointed a Committee to inquire into the matter, rather than . propese this Resolution, or adopt any legislative pro. vision upon the subject, especially as the Colk'ge of Physician's had not gi(ien any decisive opinion . upon the efficacy. of Vaccination. Mr. WILiERFORCE warmly supported the Reso lution, and dwelt upon the benefits that would re sult to the communit - from ,the Institution proposed to be established. , Mr. llosE explained. -His objet; was merely, to bring Abe House to a .iteSolution such as he had pro posed, and to communicate that Resolution to his Majesty by address, it) order to lus giving such directions as would be suitable to the case. Mr. Secretary CANNING . thittl i ;ht the expriment of Vaccination intilled to the trial, but be would by .no means be undeistood to countenance the idea of imposing it by legal p,ovision upon the public. Mr. WILBERFORCZ and Sir F.BLIADETTThUttIiIIIy explained. The question being called for, the House divided, Fur the Motion . 6, Against it - s. The Resolution was of course agreed to. TYTHES IN IRELAND. Mr. i'ARt4lll./, understanding that the subject of a Commutation of Tythes in Ireland was undet the consideration of his .Majesty's Government, with drew his notice of motion on that subje6t. Mr. FIT2GPRALD (of Kerry) wished to make some observations on thig occasion, but • was pre - - vented by the Speaker, on the ground of irregida•- rity. MAHONV'S PETITION. Sir Jou N rose pursuant to his notice, to call the attention of the House to the breach of the. Articles of Union, on the detention of some Irish •Stuffs brought to Liverpool from.Cork,.the property of Messrs. Maheny, of that. City, with the inten tion of being exported'to Buenos Ayres. A duty of two-pence halfpenny per yard, amounting to 20 per cent. value, was demanded on these. Stuffs by the 'Culleaor of Liverpool, without any allowance of drawback, and when appeal was made to the Com missioners of the Customs, they confirmed the charge. It was contended that the Schedule. of the Union allowed nu drawback such as that demanded. But there was a specific provision in the bth article of Union, allowing reciprocally the free ekportatitg2 : through either country, of the prothicq or tuattUfac tare of the other, on the same terms as native pro duce. kis objed now was, by bringing the HQUSU. to a ,Resolution declaratory of the impropriety of this proceeding, to prevent the recurrence of such violations of the pro Visions of the Union, which, though of small moment at first, might, in process of time, come to great reciprocal injuries and great dissentions. In Ireland no such charge was imposed on the eiiportation of British goo& • Mr. Iltisz aeCounted for the error committed in this case .froin the reference made by the Colleelor of Liverpool, in the first instance, and the Com- Missioners of Taxes and their Counsel afterwards, to the Schedule of the Ad of Union, and not to the body of the said Aa, in the 6th Article of which the proper provision in this case .was made. He wished the case had been referred to the Treasury, where the proper remedy would have been applied. fie put it to the Ifonourable Baronet un der these circnnistanees, he should not wave 1)6 mo tion, to give. an opportunity for proper inquiry and provision on the part of the Government. Sir J. NEWEORT thought l it still right to refer the Petition to a Committee of the House, which would cptisider what remedy .was necessary, in a ptifiiic view, and' what compensation Wai due to the mer, chants in Ireland, Mesrs.'Maliony, en the tiround of being dtptived of their tnor4et. • The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought the Collecto'r of Liverpool and the Commissioners of CustOms warranted in the stria adherence they had tnailifested to the Schedule of the Union duties -= 13ut in conformity with the spirit of the Article's of Union, he thought it right to make a . more clear provision on the point referred to. With this view, he suggested the propriety of consulting the Attorney and Solicitor General ; and, upon their advice, to introduce a Declaratory At, to remedy the defici ency complained of. Mr. G. PONSONBY did not like the precedent of a declaratory Ad, interfering with the Articles of Union,.which would be rendered less sacred by such interference. He wished fur some measure, amounting to an instru&ion to the Officers of the Customs, to prevent the recurrence of the evil here ,complained of. He thought the sufferers, Messrs. Mahony, were entitled to compensation for their loss, and wished the Board of Treasury to consider of the means of making that compensation. Lord H. PETTY enforced the argument of Mr. Ponsonby ; but insisted on the justice and propriety of making a compensation for the injury suffered by Messrs. Mahony, by the .breach of the Articles of Union in the case before the House. The influ ence of this compensation would be to prevent the recurrence of the mischief, and to satisfy the House and the Irish Nation that it could- not recur. . Sir GEORGE HILL thought there was no real in. jury in -the case, but only a tnisconstruttiou, for which there was some ground. He was unwilling to• create , misunderstanding between the two Coun tries by over-rating the injury done. Mr. GEATTAN wished for some' proceeding amounting to a general instWtion to the Coiledors of the various Ports of Great Britain. - Sir JOIIN . NEWPORT insisted still on the propriety of a general instruaion, and an indemnity to the particular sufferers He thought it better that a private compensation should be made, than that the sufferers should seek their remedy by a suit at law, as they were entitled to do. He withdrew his Mo tion. , SMUGGLING. Mr. HustossoN rose, pursuant to notice, to move for leave to bring in a Bill to amend and render more etiedual the Provisions of the Ad of 37 Geo. 111. for the Prevention of Smuggling. The evil which he had it principally in view to prevent was the re course now had by . the smugglers to the King's enemies, who . gave them proiedion under their batteries, or by giving them certificates of citizen ship.: He proposed to subject delinquency of this nature to the penalties of transportation. There were also ,some amendments with respell to the construction of the bonds. Leave was given to bring in the Bill. The Committee on the. Local Militia Bill w 4 de ferred till to-morrow. DUBLIN POLICE BILL On the tnotion for going . into a Committee on the Dublin Police Bill, Mr. Alderman. BERESFQRD (of Dublin) recom mended to withdraw the Bill, and toappoint Com. missioners to inquire into the abuses and defect's of the present Police System of the City' of Dublin, in preference to laying on a heavy burthen without' ap parent necessity or benefit. Sir A. Wai.r.vso4y, atter.the length of time this measure had been before the house,;.'iought it rigkt to go into the Comniittee.._ , Sir J. NEWPORT had no obje&ion to go into the Committee, if the Gentleman wished it ; but put it to him whether it would he wise to proceed further with the Bill in this Session. Mr. GRATTAN bad no 01,4e61101) to go into the Committee' if it was desired. He had no objeaion . to a measure which would give a satisladofy police to the citizens of Dublin, without 'the enormous in crease of patronage contained in the present But to this Bill he had a decided, objedionfas not giving a satisladery police, and involving a vast ex pence and vast patronage. - ' The House then went into, the Committee, - Mt: .GLORY in the Chair. The several blanks were filled up. Mr. Po: , ;soirrq wished to know whether the , old Officers were to be pensioned off, and a new esta- a blisliment to be formed of new people. • Sir A. WELLESLEY stated, that such of the old Officers as were competent to the adive duties of , the new establishmqdt were to be seleded, the others .to be superannuated. Mick some explanations between Mr. PONSONEY, Sir A: WELLESLEY, and Mr. CROKER, 'the pro • visions of the Bill in this respell were agreed'to. On the Proposition for extending the jurisdiction of the Magistrates - under the Bill to a circuit of eight miles round the City of Dublin, Sir J. NEWPORT recommended limitation to' four miles. • Sir A. WELLESLEY argued on the insufficiency of a security to the .tent of four miles. Mr. SHAW (Member for Dublin) thought four miles a sufficient extent. Mr. CHOKER stated, that Howth, where the packet establiblitnent was now about to be fwed, was - beyond- four miles front' DUblip, and 'flat it was par ficularly desirable to . protect the communication be .twz,.On the, town and the packets. That cominuni cation bad of late been partiZularly the object of the 'attacks of robbers. Sir JOHN NEWPORT having proposed to limit the extent of the juriizli6tion to four milei by an amend ment, a division took place— or the A inentlni,...qt . 17 For the original Propor.ition . On the clause relative to the increase of the num ber of districts, a long discuision took place, in which die merits of the succeeding clause re specting the number and description of the Magi strates to be appointed in each district were also considered. • Mr. PosisotisY charaAerised the measure as one, the sole object of which «as patronage. So great a Ort at Dublin was surroundetl by sea, thit no ex tension of the present number of diitriats appeared to him to be ne4essary. It` was proposed to in crease the present number of distrias from four to six,, and to appoint for each distria three Ma gistrates, vie. an Alderman, a Lawyer, and a She-. riff's Peer... He objet4eds to the introduaion of so itiany new Magistrates as a wanton expence, and particularly with respea to the Lawyers which. it 'vas proposed to appoint. He concluded by inov.:. itig as an Amendment, , to substitute for the words didtricw," tlic words ," four districts." T Mi. Syr47, add Sir J. NEWPORT supported the Arnendtnent. .Sir A. WELLESLEY contended, that tl:e increase of Magistrates was indispensable, to preserve the • peace of the City of Dublin. At present there we a in Dublin twenty-four Conservators of the Peau, besides the Aldermen , and County Magistrates, and yet the Police of .that City was in a most shameful state. As.to the introduaion of Barristers, he main' tained that they were the . most eligible persons for Magistrates. He had no reason Whatever to believe that this measure was disapproved of by the City of Dublin ; on the contrary; the inhabitants. wets almost universally of. opinion that it was necessary to provide some measure to secure the Police of the City, and in general they thought that the measure now proposed would answer that purpose. - Mr. PONSONBY denied that the Police of Dtain was in the state described by the Hon. Baronet. Sir A. WELLESLEY said, it. was true that in the. City of Dublin there were not many outrages cot' milted, tint then the Committee must recolleet that there was in Dublin a garrison of 7000 men , wl. ' ° were distributed in 40 different stations, and'had patroles out-all night ; but it was equally true that in the Country in the immediate vicinity of Dublin , it was very unsafe to be out after it was dark. Mr. DENNIS BRowNE concurred in opinion wit" the Hon. Baronet on this subje&. He appealed t° Ire' his couryneen, whether the late rebellio n in o land had not proceeded from that focus of mischief, the City of Dublin ? Its support of thin positioa,he enumerated the various atrocities that bad been com mitted in Dublin at that period, among• which were the murder of the Lord Chief Justice, &c. and glanced these leas as a proof of the necessity of more extensive and vigorous Police. Mr: FULLER urged the apparent necespity al a stronger Police. Mr. BEREsFORD and Mr. C. Wyssa argued against the Bill, contending that the present Pa ce 'Establishment was amply'sufficient to preserv;olle peace of the City.' Mr. GRATTAN, in replymaintained to an Hon. Gen tlest rMr. Dennis Browne) that fewer gea took place in Dublin than in any other c li P t r of Europe. TwaeleCtions had . given him a n oPP° ; , tunity of accurately ascertaining the , charatler . 0 ' the inhabitants of that City, and be declared that° found them the most orderly and well disposed pee ,the ple. He commented on e absurdity of acl eiv i the enormities committedduringthe disturbances!" Ireland as a pretext for establishing an unnecessarYo or Police now that those disturbances bad ceased, Iv re especially when it was recollecled that had the p' posed police existed at the time of those disturbance', it could not !lava averted the evil, which was not c fined to the metropolis, but diffuse d through t 11 5 1 ,' whole Island. This was a measure w hich, in opinion, was entirely carctilated to increase th e ' ence of the Court, he should therefore g ive !this L'e cided opposition: c 0 fined Mr. CuoKER opposed the amendnient. On a division, there appeared,' Per the Amendment', 3z -Against it, 6s-111:2jdfitY.43. Another debate then took place on the next c l3 ` )sc ' respeaing the number of Magistrates to be aPP° lnt. ed in each diistriCL Mr. Sit A w repeated an amendment, that, in: stead of ciihteen , the number of Magistrates -shod , ' beauty twelve, in order thus to exclade the six V risters. Mr. J. C. BERE3Fpp oppiwd.t he original clause , as creating unnecessary ,Ottices at a great expeure' while it intritted on the Charter of the Corpo rati6li e of Dublin. He said it would throw a great deal of influence into the hands of the Ministers, by creat ing such a number of new Officers. The proof that ceuld . be given of the degree of Winer; which this Bill would give the Minister was , t during the .short trip which the Right Hon. et had recently made to Dublin, he had cootrived of convince the Court of Aldermen of the proPri et i this measure, and the Ina was, that out of R 4 A ., dermen, 18 were Candidates for Offices under Bill, and many of them were now in London. an Sir A. WELLESLEY said that the Hon. Gentle tr , w • had not done him justice if he supposed that.. went over to Ireland for the precise' of inducing persons to support this Bill ; be declared so that wai not the case. The Citizens Of . Dublin we,t: aware that the present system of'Police rca~ very feCtive, and they in general approved of the Pre sel o i measure; but . that approbation certainly did . proceed trom.any promises_ which lie had made, strongcs_c l ave d he bad not made any. The Hon. Gentl eman said, that many of the Aldermen were Candidate' " i n , Offices under this Bill, and that several of "in were now in London. Flow' many of thet a were'," tively that he, Aldermim Loudon he did not know, but he could wtte had seen but one o f Debl. o _ . in London, who called ty pay 'him a visit It was true that this Bill did' to a certain extent taut terfere with the Charter of the City of DuDlitt o ' it was impossible to introduce any system ° I s that would not affea the Charter to a certain extet yesterdY.. From the Warmth with-which thislneasure wlO9 It A.. posed, it might be imagined that it woul d ref tlr large increase of aeration Dublin necessary lit large ibis was not the case : the expence of the areas de' was to be defrayed by the adoption of a better Mot., of colleaing the Revenue, and by other innr°l • • rt Mr. STEWART, COl. TALBuT, and Mr. TlE•••.'fir. opposed the Clause ; which Was supported by Cuoxett.'and Sir W. ELFoRD. The Committee then chvicled on the A P I' . !Pent :-- . , Ayes „ . 27. Noes 66 Mority ainst it ---39 The Committee s then pr against it —39 C ohr The Commiite then proceeded through the ( g i g Clauses of the Bill, upon which none but ‘'e b r"''. amendments were ()tiered i and the House eing. resumed, theßeport wai ordered to be receive d 611' day. Adjourned. - TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. MR. EDITOR, • It has I:or,en publicly stated, that since Mr. E 1 . 1.1 , ' 1# ;ox quitted Drury-lane Theatre on a trip to 1:1.1'F lib, before the usual period, Miss DtINCAN.I no" 1 3 . i de ; clined appearing in any play in which she b i d actor.perform Avid* that Such a refusal ‘vould so insulting to the other perforniers- %Ow"' t o Managers Lave considered as proper substilu te. 4 s l to Mr, /44.01 - 014 'so unjust as well as ungratelt