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i 4.IIERIC. , LV PAPERS. HOUSE OF REPRIISENTATIVES, Nov. to. EMBARGO. • Immediately on the meeting of the House 114r. CHITTENDEN said,he rose with considerable diffidence to offer to the 'House a Resolution on the subject of the Embargo.' Having witnessed the feel !ilgs heretofore excited by a similar proposition at the elst Session, he said he would assure Gentlemen thafhe had no object in view but to bring th e sub .. _led before the House, and excite a fliir and liberal .discussion. He had hoped that the situation of our affairs would ere this have authorized the removal - - of the Embargo. Disappointed in this, he felt it a duty which he owed to his constituents and to the nation, to endeavour to elicit an expression of the •• opinion of the House, to prevent ruinous specula tions, and to relieve the nation from:suspense.— The measure had now been in operation ten or eleven months, and he had not perceived the good effeds resulting from it. The importance of this subject, its interesting nature to his con stituents, who in addition to the coannon sufferings, had the extreme mortification of being represented 2 s In a state of insurrection, must be an apolegy for fits coming forward at this early period on the sub iet.i.of the EMbargo. He then offered the tollowtits -• ResolUtion • , Resolved, That the A& passed at the last Ses s:on of Congress, - entitled " An Ad laying an Em bargot on all Ship s an d V esse l s in the ports and bar nnts of the United States, and the several Ads . -.nPPlernentary and additional thereto," ought to be imMediately repealvd." • O n the question whether the House will agree to consider the Resolution, it was decided by Yeas and -I\raYs--Yeas 83—Nays 9. It was `then agreed to refer the Resolution to a en ounmittee of the whole. On the question for what -day it should be the 'order, Mr. CHITTENDEN moved to-morrow. A Debate of considerable length took place upon this Motion, in the course of which Mr. EPPES p r oposed the fellowing Resolutions, as an amend ment to Mr. CHITTENDEN'S Motion. I.c Resolved, That from and after the day o f next, all intercourse between the United S tates and Great Britein, its Islands and De pendencies, 'ought to cease and determine. of " Res o l ve d , That from and after the day States next, all, interc o urse between th e U n i te d • and France, its Islands and apendencies, ought to cease and determine. la: Resolved, Th at pr o v i s i on oug h t to b e made by for arming and equipping for intmediate,service already thousand militia, in addition to t h e f orce authorized by law." The Speaker then informed Mr. Ems that these could nut be received .witile another question was Pend ing; and Mr. ErgES withdrew them for the present. The Resolution was then made the Order of the 4- lay for Monday next. OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS. • - . iTPRODTao N,ATIONAL INTELLEGENCER. he dcCuments accompanying the Ait:.ssag e of the xiesident, too exien,ive. fbr inserticfn in one Paper, we have con6idered it inot satisfactory, in the first instance, to publish the- following, which Will furnish a tolerably correct idea of the situation of our foreign relations ) with the. :mud taken by our Government. In subsequent Papers the whole of the documents shall be given. E XTRACT OF A LETTER FROM GEN. ARMSTRONG TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE, DATED BOURBON L'ARCHAMBAULT, AUG. 28, 1808. " Since my arrival at this place, I have been honoured by the receipt of your Dispatch cat the 2 Ist ult. and would immediately return to Paris to re new my discussions w ith IV. De Champagny, either personally, as you suggest, or by writing ; had l not the most solemn conviction that any new experiment made at the present moment, in either form or offi cial charaaler i would certainly be useless and pro tablY injurious." PROM MR. PINCKNEY TO MR. CANNING. Great Cumberland Place, Aug. 2j,niScB, have had the honour, in consequence of the. or-. ders of the President, to recall your attention, in the • Course of several recent interviews, to the British Orders in Council of the 7th of January and 11th of November, 1807, and to the various Orders founded upon, or in execution' of them ; and I now lake the liberty to renew, in. the mode which I have under stood to be indispensable, my instances on that subjea. • I need scarcely remind you, sir, that the Go vernment of the United States has' never ceased to.consider these Orders as violating its rights, and aff4aing most destrut'lively .its interests, upon grounds wholly inadmissible, both in principle and fact. The letters of Mr. Madison to Mr. Erskine, of• the 20th and cgth of INlzii . ch, 1807, produced by the official communication of that Minister, of the order of the 7th of January, at.d the 'answer of Mr. Ma ' dison, ofthe 25th of March, 1808, to a like commu , tication of the orders of the 1i th November, con , tained the most direa remonstrances against the systeni which these orders intrmluce and execute, and exPres - sed the Confident epe.tation of the Pre sident that it would not be persisted in.• That ekpeaation has not yet been fulfilled, but has, notwithstanding, not been relinquished.- -Ow President is still persuaded that its 4ecomplish nent will result from a c.areful, review by his Ma- • Jesty's Government, made in the spirit of moderation and equity, of the fats and considerations which belong to the occasion. Jr is not my purpose to re-capitulate in this note the statements and reasbnings • contained in the above -mentioned letters of M r . M a d ison, in support . th e claim of the Government of the United States, that the:Britishorders be revoked. I content my , se..lf.xvith referrin g to those letters for proofs, which not necessary to re p ea t, an d for arguments cwald 'not hope to improve. but there are explanations whkh those letters . , not contain, and which:it 1s propet fl)r.nle pow .to make. 'Even these,. however, may h i ! ver . ; , :briefly given, since you have already been made acquaint e d, in our sate conversations ) with all their hearings and details. , • . • These explanations to chew, that while every - trto:.• five of justice conspires to produce a disposition to recall.t he orders of which my Government complains, it is become apparent that even their professed ob je6t will be best attained by , their revocation. I h id the honour •to state to you, Sir, that it was the intention of the President, in case-Great Britain repealed . her Orders as regarOd the United States, to exercise the power vested in him by the ad of the last session of Congress, intitled " An Ad to autho- rize the President of , the United States, tinder cer tain conditions, 10 suspend the operation of the Ad laying an embargo on all ships and vessels in the ports and harbours of the United States, and the several supplementary ads thereto," by, suspending the embargo laW and its supplements, as regards Great Britain. I am authorized to give you this assurance in the most formal manner ; and I trust, that upon impar tial inquiry, it will hzt found to leave inducement to perseverance in the British orders,, while it creates the most powerful inducements of .equity and policy to abandon them. On the score of justice, it does not seem possible to mistake the footing upon which this overture places tht.. subje& ; and I venture to believe that in any other view there is as little, room for doubt. It; as I propose, -your orders :should be rescinded as to the United States, and our embargo 'rescinded as to Great Britain, the effect of these concurrent a&s will be, that the commercial intercourse of the two countries will be immediately resumed; while, if France should, adhere to maxims and con duct derogatory to the neutral rights of the United Slates, the embargo continuing as to her, will take the place of your orders, and lead with an efficacy not merely equal to theirs, but probably much great er, to all the consequences that ought to result from them. On the other• hand, if France should concur in respecting those rights, and - commerce should thus regain its fair immunities, and the law of nations its just dominion, all the alleged purposes of the British . Orders will have been at once fulfilled. If I forbear t-o pursue these ideas througli all the illustrations of which they -are susceptible, it is be cause the personal conferences to which T have be-. fore alluded, as well as the obvious nature of the ideas themselves, render it unnecessary. I cannot conclude this note without expressing my sincere wish, that w h at I h ave now suggested, ° inconformity with the liberal sentiments and en lightened views.of the President, may contribute, not only to rembve - the more immediate obstacles to the ordinary intercourse of trade between your coun try and mine, in. a Manner consistent with the ho nour of both, but to prepare the way for a satistac tory adjustment of every question important to their, future friendship. 1 have the honour to be; With The highest consideration,' l Sir • Your most obedient humble servant, (Signed) WM. PINCKNEY. EXTRACT OVA LETTER PROM MR. PINCKNEY TO THE SECRETARY O STATE, D4I.TED 24111 SEPTEMBERi IC;08, LONDON. . " I an, 110%s/enabl e d t o tran smit to you a copy of 41\1r. Can n i ng ' answer, received only last night, to my note of the 23d of August. " I rigret extremely that the views which I have been instructed to lay before this Government have not been met by it as I had at first been led to ex pett. The ovyrtui e,cannot fail, however, to place in a strong light the ju,t and liberal sentiments by which our Government is animated, and in other respects to be useful and honourable to our coun-6 try:. - --~-- ~ FROM MR. CANNING TO MR. PINcKNEY. Foreign (Vice, Sept. 23, 1808. The Undersigned his Majesty's Principal Secre tary of State fur Foreign Atfair, h.id the honour to receive the official letter addressed to him by Mr. Pinckney, Minister Plenipotentiary of the . United States,• respecting - the Orders it) Council, issued by his Majesty on the 7thof January and 11th No'vem , ber, 1807. He has laid that letter before the King, and he is commanded to assure Mr. Pinckney that the an swer to the proposal which Mr. Pinckney was in structed to bring forward has been deferred only in the hope that the renewed application which was understood to have been recently made by the Co-' vernment of the United States to that of France, might, in the new State of things which vhas arisen in Europe, have met with such a reception in France, as would have rendered. the compliance of his Majesty with that proposal Consistent as much with his Majesty's own dignity and with the in terest of his people, - as it would have been with his Majesty's disposition towards the United States. Unhappily there is now no longer any reason to 'oe lieve that such a hope is likely to be realized ; and the Undersigned is therefore - commanded to com municate to Mr. Pinckney, thedecision which, un der the circumstances as they. stand,, his Majesty feels himself compelled, however unwillingly; to adopt. The mitigated measure of retaliation announced by his Majesty in the Orders of Council of the 7th" January, arrd the further extension of that. measure . (an extension in operation but not in principle) by .the Order] in Council of _November, are founded (as has been already repeatedly avowed by his Ma.- jesty) on the " unquestionable right of his Majesty to retort upon the enemy the evils of his own in justice" —and - upon the consideration that—" if third parties incidentally suffered by these retaliatory measures, they were to seek their redress from the Power by whose original aggression that retaliation was occasioned." His Majesty sees nothing in the Embargo laid on by the President of -the United States of America, which varies this' original and simple state of the question. 7 if considered as a measure of impartial hostility against both Belligerents, the , Embargo appears to his Majesty to have been manifestly unjust, as, ac cording to every principle of justice, that redress ought to haVe been first soi:igltt from the party ori ginating the wrong. And his Majesty cujrnot eon . . sent to buy that, hostility which America . ought not to have extended to hint at •the exPence i?f a concession made not to America but to France. If, - as it has knore generally been rePresented.hy the Government of the United States, the Embargo is only to be considered as an innocent municipal regulation which atieets none but the United. States themselves, and with which no Foreign State has any concern ; viewed in this light, his Majesty does . ' not conceive that he has the right or the pretension to make any compLtint of it, and he has made'none. But in this tightthefe appears not only no recip rocity, but no assigna'o:e relation, between the re 'peal by the United States of a measure of voluntary self‘restriaion; and the surrender by his Majesty of his right of retaliation against his enemies. The Government of the Utlited States is not now to be informed that the Berlin Decree.of Nov. 21, 180(i, was the praClical commencement of an at tempt not merely to check or impair the prosperity , of Great Britain, but utterly to annihilate her politi cal existence, through the 'min of her commercial prosperity ; that in this attempt almost all the Powers of the European Continent have been com pelled more or less to co-operate ; and that the American Embargo, though - most assuredly not in tended to that end (for America can have no real in terest in, the subversion of the British Power, and -her Rulers are too enlightened to ad from any pulse against the real interests of their country) but by some Unfortunate concurrence of circumstances, without any hostile intention; the American Em bargo did come in aid of " the blockade of the European Continent" precisely at the very moment . when, if that blockade could hive succeeded at' all, this interposition of the American Government would most etfeEtually have contributed to its site cess.' To this universal combination, his Majesty has, I opposed a temperate but a determined retAntion upon 'the enemy; trusting that/ a firm reiistalce would defeat this project, but knowing that the smallest concession would infallibly encourage a per severance in it. The strtygle has been viewed by other Powers not without an apprehension that it might be fatal to this country. The British Government has not disguised from itself that the trial of such an expe riment might be' arduods and long ; though it has never doubted of the final is:itre. But if that issne, . such as the British Government confidently anti cipated, has providentially arrived much sooner than could have been hoped ; if " the blockade of the Continent," as it has been triumphantly stiled by the enemy, is ratted even before it had bee,n well 'established; and if that system, of which extent and continuity wore the vital principles, is broken up into fragments utterly harmless and contempti= ble ; it is, nevertheless, important in the highest de gree to the reputation of tins con ntry-(a reputation which constitutes great part of her power) that this disappointment of , the hopes of her enemies should not have been purchased by any ,concession ; that not a doubt should remain to distant times of her determination and of her ability to have continued her resistance ; and that no step which could even misiakeply be construed into concession should be taken on her part while the smallest link of the COMederacy remains uodissolYed ; or while it can be a question whether the plan devised for her ,l e t struCtion has or has not either completely' failed or been Un equi voCally‘a bandoned. These Considerations, compel his Majesty to ad here to the principles on which the 'Orders in Coon- . cil, of the 7th Jannary, and th e t tt h NoveMbet are founded, so long as i'vance adheres to that system by which his Majesty's retaliatory measures' were bccasioned and justified. '. It is not improbable; indeed, that some alterations may be made in the Orders in Council, as they are at present framed ; alterations calculated not to abate their spirit, or impair their principle, but to adapt them more exaally to the different state" of things which has fortunately growm up in lurope, and to combine all pradticable relief to neutrals,wrth.a more ~severe 'pressure upon the enemy. jßut or alterations to be made with this view only; it would be uncandid to take any advantage in the present discussion : however, it might be hoped,. that in their pra&ical etre& they might prove beneficial to America, provided the operation of the Embargo were not to prevent her from . reaping that-benefit. It remains for the Undersigned to 'take notice of the last paragraph of Mr. Pinckney's letter. There cannot exist, on the part of Mr. Pinckney, a stronger wish than there does on that Tart of the • Under signed, and of the British Government, ,fOr the ad justment of all the differences subsiSting betwe e n the two countries., His Majesty has no other disposition than to cul tivate the most friendly intercourse with the United States. The Undersigned is persuaded that Mr. Pinckney would be one of the lastito imagine, what is often idly asserted, that the d e pre s si on o f any other coun try is necessary, or, serviceable ,to the prosperity of this. The prosperity of America is essentiel)y.the prosperity of Great Britain, and the strength and power. of Great Britain are not 1 - Or herself only., btu for the world. - When those adjustments shall take place, to which though unfortunately not predicable at this moment, nor under the conditions prescribed by Mr. Pinckney, the Unde'rsie,ned, nevertheless,- : confidently.looks forward ; it will perhaps be no insecure pledge for the continuance of the good tin '•derstaeding between the two countries that they will have learnt dilly to appreciat e e ac h callers friend ship ; and th a t it . will not hereafter be Itirputed to Great Britain, either on the one hand that she envies American industry as prejudicial to British ,corn merLe, or, on the other haul, that she is compelled to court an intercourse with America as absolutely necessary to her own existence. His Majesty would not hesitate to contribute, in any manner in his power, to . restore to the com merce of the United States its wonted aelivity, and if it were possible to make any 'sacrifice for the 're peal of the Embargo, without appearing to depre- , sate it as a measure of hostility, he wOuld gladly have facilitated its removal as a measure of income= nient restrielion upon the American people. The Undersigned is commanded, in conclusion, to observe, that nothing is said: in- Mr. Piuckney's letter of any intention ta repeal the Proclamation by which the-Ships of War . of Great Britain are i:'iter dieted from all those rights of ho§pitality in the ports of the United States, which are freely allowed to Ships of his Majesty's Enemies. . . dirigatice of an intercliciion which, tindc r such circumstances, amounts so t?early to dirett .hos tility, after the willingness professed, And the at tempt t! made by his Majesty to 'remove tire Cii11,4.7. on which that measure had been' originally tor:Oiled, I, would afford but an inauspicious omen for tuentOnie'llt of system , of «Intim! concilia;iofl ; ao4 1,11 the omission of any notice of that measure in the proposal which Air. Piiioliney has been instrut9ed to bring forward, would have been of ;.tseil a mak rial defeat in the oven ore of the President. But the tindersigned is conmtnided no further to dwell upon this sithjeti than for the purpose of as snring Mr. t'inaney, that on thiS and every other point in discussion between the tWo Goverw»ent,., his Majesty earnestly d es ir es t k e restorat i on Oa f perfe6.l gpod understanding, and thgt his Majesty would &cline no measure, for the attainment o f that objeel which should be compatible with his own honour and just rights,. mid with the interests of his people. The Undersigntd requests Mr. Pinckney will ac cept the - assurance of his high consid , 4ation. (Signed) GEORGE CANNING. In consequence of the death of tlfe -late H. P. ST. JOHN MILDMAY, Bart. the superb family seat of Moulsham Hall, in Essex, is directed to be sold, in various lots. It was buil t by t h e la s t E ar l of I' ITZ WALTERJ where GEORGE the Second generally passed a day and a night, on •his route to .Hanover, and who always declared it the best mansion heevcr entered. It devolved on Sir H. PAULET ST. JOHN, with an estate of 30001. per annum, in Essex, on matringe with ,Miss MILDMAY, daughter of CAREVV MILDMAY, Esq. (whose name he took) on cowlition that he shod make it his abode three months in every year GovernMent finding it neces sary to oosscss it as a residence for the Gt-tnerul and Lis s , ,tr of his distritt, and also to erect fortifications on a. considerable. part of the park, on Aft of Parlia ment passed hr that -purpose, by which Sir HARRY'S residence was dispensed with : the term for which Government took it being- now expired, the whole of this fine. strwilure, offices, &c. is ordered to be razed to the ground: • Thursday evening, about half-past eight o'clock ; a most dreadful explosion of gunpowder cartridges took place in Blewies-coutt,'Fet ter-lane. A iour , aeyman Carpenter; who resides in a one pair of stairs back room, uas st- home with his wi!e when the explosion took place, and the cause of the accident, or hoit; the gunpowder came there, is not known,---- The man, 'hi his 'great agony, juMped out of the window into the yard with his cloaths in flames, and in. this state ran into his landluly's parlour, and from thence into the court, where, with the assistance of several people, the flames were ext ing - nishe'd, and he and his wile were taken to the H oi pi ta l it) a most shocking and dangerous state. Th e explosion forced the partition, which separated the back and front room, where a woman and three children were, who providentially received no other injury than soMe bruises from the falling of the ainseot. The whole of the outside of the front room, together with the sashes, were forced our into a, r , hiw building on the O;;posite side of the Courl i ', The unfortti nate man and his wife have been%speechkss since th e explosion. - CottoNECs,lNanES4%—Felo de se. 7 --An Inquisi . sition was held on Friday . se'tiniglit, and continued by adjournment till the next day,, in the parish of Bethnal-green, before J: W. U-rovf&. Es . q. on e body of Frances li,avennagh, who had been missing for about three "weeks. Mr. Gilpin, of London field, Hackney, deposed, that the deceased had lived servant with him ; she was to have-quitted her ser vice on Monday, the 21st of Novetriber; On the Friday pr. coding, ltis housekeeper, having by acci dent found some tea and other articles in a, box, which led to a suspicion of theft, required to see clic Contents of her oilier boxes. The search produced the folloWing articles; namely, half a peck_ ollionr, three quarters loaves,' three pounds of butter, a potind of tea, another quant4 of less than a pound, two pounds of moist, and two pounds - of loaf sugar, some sugar loOse in a bag, a bottle of rum, another of brandy, and a third of gin ; sonic of the alleles. the witness could identity, others he could prove were' taken up ,of his tradesmen. The deceased, on being accused, acknoWledged the theft. On the Saturday evening she had called on a Mrs. Tipping, to whom shestated having been accused (Attie theta, but imputed the whole to the malice of Mr. Gilpin's houSekeeper, who, she affirmed, Inv' placed the things iq her box to ruin her. She added, " rather than be brought to justice, I will make away with myself," The deceased Called again on Tip pings,. on Sunday morning-, and staid till eleven o'clock. Elizaibeth Gray, who lives in the neigh bourhood, heard; about eleven o'clock on Sun day night three distina screams, in a female voice, in the 'direaion of a pond to the North of. the Hackney. Road, nearly opposite Darharn-Place.--, On Monday morning, Samuel Millwood . and his son, about eight o'clock, found, by, the side of the same pond; a pair of, black velvet shoes, .a shawl, a chequed apron, and a_pair• or garters ; a bonnet Was also found floating on the suffice of , the w a t er . The pond was dragged for a considerable time,with out finding the budy; but on Thursday last it was discovered floating. in the pond, by James Allen, a labourer. Mr. UNWIN observed to the Jury, that from the declaration of the deceased, the situation of the wa ler,- and the articles of dress fou n d on the brink of the pond, there could not•be a reasonable doubt of the faa of self-destruaion. The unfortunate wo, man appeared to have quitted the w o rld l oa d e d wit h and to escape justice had flown to suicide._ There is not a hint of ins:tntty in the case; and the law presumes all hotriicide to be murder till the conclusion shall appear, and ranks self murder with the worit of crimes. The consequence of a veldiet of sell-felony is well known, and it is hoped may operate as a wariiitig to surviyors. • .DISCOUNT ALLOWED ON LOTTERY Every Purchaser of Shares of Tickets, amounting to Five Pounds and upwards, will be allowed a as, count, at .1.4\r.; RNFlies FOrtunate Office, Ir, Corn hill, Where Capital Prizes ta a lrge amount have been recently sold in Shares,—Only two more days to craw, and the wheel contains three of 20,000 i, ore of 1 0,0001. one of 5,0001, three of 1,0001.&c. Tuesday will, be the next Day of Drawing. 'S ~: