The Sun. — London, England, 1810-03-02 00:00:00

ttC, it 11 Ilea the the 02' 110:1 1 ding cf rord, 1 11 : 100 a )13:1- ryrr „ u ~. t ~ri~-e:; . sr ic'%t ► ' •;.; - t\ . 11-I:VFRSi-011 Bit-L. . --, • . ..tit, e 'n the ro:),''on of' r:l':r .Bvtt,s . a elel. C(.M tee w .,.. • .. '.. -. , , - to any k i lt ., , -,'. 'lP:knot:l.i to toi...pesi :the Lords Journals, proedings by . their Lordships clur- . I n te-' ~.3.t.te presf.ilt. Sejsit-nt, touching the Bill-for Iso la" ing`the grantitig.cf Offie:,:a i'n Re'version: . . 7y s n the motion of Sh:-.l.:NtiwronT, an aecOitift sums ordered • to he laid before .the House, ,of the a boliti on been. had been_ granted as.Compe , satio!, f,r.tlie te ,,,, 1 t,t0n- of eeNitt•Fee-1-of -th'e Ct.,•Aili-n-lioi4s6:Qt:fi ,4l in Lo ndon, Bristol; 'and • Liverpoil, together fivers. san account of the, present ;diaries of those Of; • N t ,L, ;,. . ELLESLEV.POLE. rosis, pursuant to the poti:e l ea l l ' re rl :_h ; had giveti, for the purpose of nto‘ing for iQ e 2 - . °.,..b t ring in .u, Bill . to ; • atuend the, Al of . ..the. 11,,, s '' I L., It theiath seaion of that ,Act, a power t ail, g r anted to all petsons seized of in fee, toe I.!' 9r for: life, era' - - -'' ;lands . ..1 au tk i st ,, , L to . ut one !acre its trust - to -,e test ani v : -I - Chni-clat de n , r. ' aor tue. use of the Pro - batare Cbaner ,S"chools in the - - sa•cl parish.. The . etlabl of the alteration he meant-to .propose was,-10 .. e Perso n f land —ti rer Bo4 , s l 9 grant . t % , ,.o aer-fs ,oto , y ill i rtr ., : w r " 0 may be appr.oved of by the Bishop; 451);e:I. fort the Protestant School of the parish. His . 0 0 . ' ve g r In -tna.king .tbis proposition was, to enalet toe tins, 11 ?.r of Erasmus Smith's Charily to - dis bii ,idi„el. the sulplos . ?nods in their hank in su c h "g and endoing: Charity Schools. wityui *ere ° ;,Psktrish-e3; Inc -- Governors of • that charity • til e r''t unknown to the House-,they.consists (4. th e di.;.id‘ Clanceilor Qf .ireia t yd, tie ..Primate, bip,,, , e th isitupq, the • Chief Juitides fir the tiare illo,Z and ()Obit. persons ' eleeted cinder the au bad .?" . ,9f an A —a of P arliaMent.. These Governors kittriePtresent in their hands a large surilus of the hdesirous t,,11.1? Mr.."Era;mus Smith, and, - they were ouses 01 emplovi..... L i 4 these funds in building school lowill 41'.1hicq woulit Cost about 400 i. each, and al flse(lo` e ;thoelmaAer ' 301. a-year. It. was in 4114 to - ; -41)te °,f ll l ' , Gtiveruors of this -Charity ,wish .3l oa tsi. • ,s`'w moved . -be powe.ra granted .to thew that he 1 44 bt.,-, :. these !cave to briti, , z• in this 818. It would uttiii;orcessaryfor. Lira. alpresent to enter Unita , lhould i h 'he irntoute regulations; of the Bill; he - ` 4 ve /6 bri ng himself with moving for 4 , 16 i of s .rin ...•:- 4 1 a till lb explain and amend the Sir .ilf . 1 Joni Nawp , t le T .,• ottT said,he approved vary much %len / I • ° 'i'nn b ' t-i'' -e 7 - - c i leiN mu g t iorwar by 0 11 ep s h 4 I T ') but; he I,vistied to.‘kno*, whether any . i iluelleea' neeritaken.by the G ' overnmetit, 10.ColiSe- 1 . reht ) I °I. the tePoits . ;. - . - if the :troa;d of Education in 4 r. W , e l'ott s ,; tr-:, rg - oli, Said, that suc h 0 th e " —' t. ' B - e te icon s ` 1 'MI as had t::,en bef re hat_ -, end (3,e . er mi the eol isideratiiin ' of 'the Government,. ? Ca rry i'ercen w0n1(.. 1 tnd that.steps had been taken 'nard Ito*Yea the objeet recommer (it'd ty.. t lie t t/ Y, geriplncat.ion. Gove - iiiment ' 19:! ' il not 3-- d . P 1 5 11 • 7 11 6tt -4'3 .Yst'-:;i'•,i ; alien their reports, nor did he Z i n-lbe: how it could to done,, considering . thti. t 'Dort i "f rt 13,,b5e-tl they - embracl4. - .d.' tn ' t ever Y .- afl ielPegii ,seriously ,cousidercd, .cud steps t l e/Idei `.: taken 16. carry the nwasu:cs recoto 7 . 41 , the.lP-14:. ;AecUtion. Vith, regard ...tu 'this :nsi4rata.4o.)eot to_ which it related was under: the i f c 't 3 ,, ,•t - th ' ° ! . ; of . the Board Of Education ; they had -I,e, Frie d a I tepOrt; , .bUt as he had beard from %1 the ,e. ht thought it _better but to-lose taus 111. AZOr e lle had moved for leave to bring in the Ought faATTitr wished to have: a general_ . plan hav .orward at Dries upon this . subjea,- . and not • An b Oetail e d . . ) . ,r, i t „ . , , Measures. such 'as the present. • sticatio--I;4Lit I' 1,, 'VosTE4 stated, that lite Board of t "rt.+ aid -ere noW ernyloyed in drawiig up their. ). a . th u . ose their bbours kl generli plan le Intentlesilo cl • ' tt Y. ' for the Education of the Irish Pea -4,41 - / ' • .. .. . . a few . L i s iie pc._ *Words toin mr;•M. Fitzerald, Mr. mer • e wa s : s and .Mr: W. Pole, in explanation, Sir 4,/ g' y en to bring ' ' Bill. Ite 0 1 . 4; .,.,. mg in toe . • PI h 1-`4EWrora wished to know whether any P I ad k_ th uhtiletlt'`en caken .to carry into effeot the le ? q l e C0rt,.„.3. recottilbentled by the Bth Retest of cr ...404sione f Inquiryin Ir e land,and wile- . I) fi any coal rs o t h. ce rs of ~ tr l un icatioo had been race by the L'iw ' uter i , ttl.P Crown upou the subjed to the Lord kr "t. h it c. W. T o . . .. 4 ti ' ad bee I-4 said., that the first part•of- that re - 14,11e11.1.,,5t1e, attended to, but sortie doubts . had -- data tor ! ' 11 1!g that part relating to the Law Offices, i,,,. 14tIniNticin had ce rtainly been made tipcin , B L n : tint h, „.e s„;leers c . . 44..1 . 4 ,,,,1 \ L L "_ i rw.ofilcers of the . rowel P ice, ht ) 14 1 ..Oe tii i, W r nat Wished to know - if the - .. pieati o 'trin had any, objection to lay that - con - 4- k 4lr . \\yr' before the House • "l 't i' ' • 1)0 1..E . • • e l• (h 411,1 replied, that he had no objeeion, t o 4 / l ei t ,, n . t;/ it due', in point . of courtesy to the 11 , 6 ,ttit th e min o .44(.1 inade thi Communication,' to ' Ililr 3,4'uPnn tlre subject. : L 4 Ne w ii l Vl ,t .ti on c ., PoRT wished to know whether the j i‘:‘ z nol in : `'e"tletnan had rece ved .a . parer' from h. , w 1 , ! , , j .,, , ,, r „. !, of the Revenue upon this poutt.- . 41414: tiro -" ' ts LE Y' PoLE said,' be .sl-114)°';`-'d the' 0,, _ , net alludt'd to a paper ( riven Ilan by Lord "r t '- '.-'. He I 1 t` 'e ittt.) reti tle , .• sent. toe .TN vble Lord ithe Re -4 .3vt . , . 11 11 g ilitil .to give ll' opinion upon the r ( • Il e a , ta( ' 1 1 '11 4( v a ,i,, !swer wa;s.Very twig, and contained' k r 4 th e .„I of_opintons ; but-he did not. think (:),,,, d -! ,--1-;11. Pones u 01,./, . 1 - wool ~.. 0, ~. e. st- ^ he ot:,ja he had in view.. 0 1)1 s T / ~14 n 1 h . 1 .1. LRI ES pFIEZ E LA N I). , 1 r) e inot; • - 40. .o n of Mr.. -FOSTER, the House. went !. Ni ` - ', l 'nnlitl ee . , , .. , tt: r . , lio s , r „- • (4, tlte li:sli Distillery A&. - ; ( i ' l lioi oe - ' it ! s :li.l, he would •shortly 'state tO the . CAni ( 4 .1 tt e o , • -- I . ; , ttry ,14,1., toe u.,, . .)-. , T , - t he had -in vista'. 14 4r id, 4 rai:l W..s acriu:.ii.lted with the state of : ad b b riery tb it t t '' d' '''' • • L ue-inc-eas,s o. illicit !solution Pilh- , e eoru e 1 ., . ~ + i , ill otl ~f. ,j)ro.. igiously great, ever sniciZtlie pro-', I , l '' ) Put• A . oil:: qrsrillati9n, froth grain,. Indeed, lie , i 4 4 sure, ,a_ di"r.nling increase. principally. to that- , treat!ot-tier to s fanners e ncouraged the illicit, ,trade . y I Proc ure a market for_ their ! , reduce..So „„. ,lad this .. : r ki,:i lll ed 6 1r l'is4"L.., in I dO7, . t 1.16 Oillitilit)i of spirits 1 1, , , 24,, t • 1 ' d ;',':',open distilleries, was six, millions of L',.` Year , i t i"e rel'qie 1,3 0,0064. ; , v , thile,. in th ( 11, 4111 t%f 1 l i ar -. . car cely br : e - it so much as neeu ..„%„,, , ......, oua uj i., ; •I' I i ' "4:d. 1r .9r11 thi s 1 , ' 'Y•The- in,erc!ic o Licit at: 41 lat e .. (1 , 1 ,, ,, . ‘ciu, that the vacw),w, or •toter -1-11)11e .1 ' ) ...n ','IY, bet'As'em i 607 and ' iBOO, was t 1,.. nc,,.e:rsartu.e. illicit t i v itillation.. .'lt Was there= . As l . ' !'gr ill I. L o I o ok ' fur remedy to ; riciiCal . t 4. P . itt con, l': ~'sYtein of Irish revenue,--ja-ls.o-ISt 1,, 4 ~ •ILL.,td wt' g list V ' -'lll' .. ' ' .' `'i 44tu, c ier . ..o 'ties. . ‘ 1, .. ) til ) -- ce/ he al foL••••nd -t.nb-s}S Cal ors 't ' •' , A•, 'l .Y-i • -.-- ' ' - '---.. , ~ . • : . . lie hal since a6lea ] •in full. 4Jrca;. It Was rint a -wire prin l cip!e,.atid went to . eoeourage large, stills 'as_ se the,rn,ans of inducirt; parties pos ssed of exten= sale capitals to enter into . the trade., • However good iheiwinciple might be, yet it had failed in Irp • laud, and the illicit 'traffic was carried on by small stills to an almost incredible. pitch. His first - oh, - jea, with a view to r Stunionot this evil, woulP,:there,. :.f)re•he to promote the . dispersjon of Irv] ,small pals, alls'ov;, , r the country. He. did not -mean 'to diS , OUra•4e 'the. large still-:, but merely-to give an -. .vqrial chance' to the, sin-ill ones, - by discontinuing : the bountieslo . the:further. Tlis had partly .been done in iasoeii, arid the reduction that then took • piaci inight fairly be by the great distil lers; a; the notice to which ihey were entitled, after -. emb il ki t g in a sileculation on the authority of Go , . - ternineirt, of a dispasinoii,- on the,, part of that . Government, to' pursue another system. His se- . cotia ojea wouLl be tO do away the apprebetrsion that existed in the miticii of those ready to coin menet: distißation . on' a lithited plan, that - they . would be cempelled s ro work of in a limited time, • . In this point, limitations similar tc) those•whicire x - . iSted . il4 Scotia:id, wiluld be adopted, and stills• would ' .--: be ~ : Veraged at to() galloos, un4;tS•i their capacity et ceeded that quantity.. He AcknoWledged'that there' were some grounds for the complaints of the Irish Distiller - - onahe fluctuation of 'the Revenue- Laws, and 'would - endelvour to obViate similar cum plaints, in the t;y‘teni lie now proposed to h ave adopted, brgriaiting LicenSesToi thr-e years, which would give 'stability to a speculation, instead of for one year, ai had hitherto 'been . ' the Prac • . lice. . There was, bnother point which was de-i , . J 1 - serving of all . consaleration, and which-he had been induced to' adopt, after the moot minute investigv 7 !• tlon. - It:was', at once. to-reduce the Btvies frOni i their present iate,5i,..8,1. per gallon, to 2s. 6d. Her Ni - as s'aiified that the tevenne would not sutfer by this; for, though' in the 'first .year there might be •; . a risk of-a diannuti4, yet, whet) the illicit trade . , :;.Vii§ desirt;yed, . which' ht!; was - t!mrinced would be the. tendeticr of tins measure, the stint paid tr..): Government by the legal 'distiller, ' would imich ' rtibte'.iLan cuunterbaa.nce the. lower rate: of duty, - ..,B.nother.of his 'objects would be to simplify the law. Tho.se -who ,noi.v; cuteled into the distillation ' trade - could not be tipeeed to be men of mud) eddcation.: The less complicated the revenue laws we}:-; - , it would be the more advant:rkeons ; - he. tl a - aboli4i entirely the exi,ting, dis ,litictivits end draw backs on the quantity of malt or ' spirits, and simply charge the 2s 6d. t. -.r gallon on toe 9U unity ‘distilled, "ro avoid the iticreitied ex:- pen'ee of. :coaecting the revenue,' he proposed to *- nave the . cOilectors .ol hart 11 , i ales and • assessed tax es euipt(6r e d 6;30 in voile:ling this braiieh 01 the• revenue, without the i.,-..e.rvent'on ,if. the•ex c ii e ..... liisobject i was to pas.. a law bcoeficiaf to - ft - eland, . -11;•t1 he woald gladly li.itt -, U lo -s - ststions from . i - i t_i . , , , .. e‘ery dlu.ti 01 t 0..." s..i.otie, ‘‘ttuout Itliliii.t2l;',l pirty,, , 'or ditlerc--.ce of feelings on whet- points. ' Lie there • tore invited G,.... - ittienhfit -to* Cc:mania-irate to' 'him ever ide4 , thin.. would teLI=J to tender the mensurc jgener,diy uselia, ..B,e'vcaue, though ft pin' his siiuti- - . twit it I.l , glit. tee -thougi,it So,.- was net his • sole ob: jet. by the proy:,n.Lect : , y..iictor,• 11 - x morals-•uf Fie •petipl-•;aiNO,•ivliicti were sod , -(Tly - I, vi tre4 by-ti kt j s 6 illicit stills, wOuld be' imprci es, and the l aws v now Contemned. would, '' by being • enforced, be- . , conic more resperited. A dani;erous .:class of per- :.• to.4* would be pd. down. He alluded to those; - who, without the cognizari-Ce of, hid rnihtn ! wn to ' the•Aldzi.ttato, kept bou.es . fur ilic . sale of Spirits, illegally distilled,. under whose roofs had oliginlno - many Of the evils whiCh had lately :,o lunch dis tressed. Ireland. With these objects in view' i - he would : thoVe; .`.` That: the Chairman be instructed to ask leave to bring, iti a. Bill to alter and. ainerid . the laws in fthce rqspe4ing the distillation. in lie.; .:, • land." ' - • . • • , Sit JOIIN p-effealy - coincided with the ideas . -Of the:lttglit,Hon;Geiltkinan, which wil.: in fact the . same which he had-ferinerly endeavoured . „' inetfettually impress upon the House. He always Wistied that the encouragetneot the large stills should be taken off; and that small .licensed.' stills 'should b.: dispersed all over.tbe country. kie Wished, however, that there should be -a pure sys tem ot liter:sing without the duties on the survey. • Mr. POS'rEIL oticcireci, that tins duty.was n'eces-, saty, as ta,:a shiurd not be -all-or.t'ed to w or k what ever varitity they pieasi - -..d in a given dine. BEAES.Foito u isbed- to know it any coMpenL sation uot,ld 15e race. to the .holders at spirits;; th cous6quence ot: the redaction ot the:duty ? Mr: Fusr>rti said it was iinpiissAale to do sa, as there weoid be au .endless retarrence.of retailer tio whOlesaie dealer . , and wholesale clealet to gi.c. He had also loOked for precedents, and touud, in the coniniutatiQn of the tea-tax, that no cot - alien- sation had been made to the holders of te?. • Mr. PeIaNELL approted ot the - plan now sug;. itstedi 'butAgree:l with Sir J.. Newport, that the systern of jicense was preferable to that of survey. He akci ceutended-for Some alteratThn iwthe shape; , of tac • Mr. FOiTER rt•buttd the 'erguments on the latter point. . • • A desultor) conv&rsation - followed, in which Air. O'Hara, Mr.. flu:chinson, llr. D. Brown, Me - . D. Giddy,. and .41r. Foster', participated ; after which the motion wzs put and carried. . • ' . . . . . , The HO:i.se was then reslitned ; Mr. Lushington brought up the 'report, and leaVe was given to bring in the-E!it. FosrEtvgave notice, that on Monday he' would wove tor. a UottituiWe of the whole I - louse to .cutiCider of lowering the datizs oa the disci ~~r froro Corn in Irelaila,_ • . , - .Mr. itose _gave. tiotice that he would move to morrow for a ComMiitee of - the whole Howie on the Warehousing Ad, as Jar -as it rehites.to linen exported... • , i ~(~ tC+' on. the tot. ;it; . AV ) • LD ' rill 2; ld; 6 0tir Y of 11: 4 Z , r solt iciaA t Any. , s elf ~s~ +~# ih7o ace e fia* and o ;17 jvc4. ioutd 0120 dupG, (Lk: : can- ea— )CCa7 gIY -1 fees. en- vide 1111 :ilia• ; i• 11- S ° •o- f e tor LP.O O 9101 ',.„.we(„L Y w ~u,~. try • rsted AC . ( 1104 1 IS j.;' ' 4 • ARMY ESTIMA CES. • I.4rd PAPIERSTON brotlg(lt up !Ile,Repo..l- of the Committee o f Supply .on the Auny Estiniatea. Mr. M. FITZGeRALD said, -he could'not fe . e.l drat exultation at . hearing the peciple, of Engtina . ‘vo:re. Dow w.iintaining . a fored 600000 rneo th;t L: rd rnightAbiriit the staterneht calcul,t(.-4 to_ exc,te. - It Ix - 4s to:hiht,aa awful subj.4o of Mann' if • we hed suck a foue, buty:ithsiati-ditsg um ..abL.: to piaet.l akrit)us irupr.uiment itt the w,yidthc cacluy..'Soloethmg must be % . ic..itruzi iu Or_ 'out, orce. fr:xci uty ought to be icndet - cci at; 4;5pix3i...):(3. as ptis.,ito.e, ._ , , for. unless' disposable'lt,e;vae . not, preporty efie , :er e , Leee e :tnaeie tit..rendes. lb era ? effetaive. , The SUJJC& becaroe .truly reeriot:• , , -C . otip try to belene e d oroy !mt. : th e , ess es - it was remembered till! it. Was pTOpOSeti !!..) ote toe :tad to 'countivs_ not one had ben morrow for, . taking thiyiy'thotisand.Portuguest so!--f. s He should be: glad te,4t now - whether and_ diers int() tour pay, which Wo e lci increase our force hose[; this 'Money had- heiri exeetecied. Eyery man . to 340,835 men, independent of the Iri3lll‘lilitia, cost the country • npwarth .of i6l, Atlether atutirs FrOnf . the ; atateatemit - of the total .;;mount of our ; .Objedlion'..was the new. 'Board. Why force; • and.the number returled.effeive, it •appeir- j e,,were the inlariesofeehebonrd increased, he wcilid ed that the comory had to pay the offieers, eec e of a' 'zak, `and ;why -were oexsons •aijpeented. as old in very ,considerable torctl, not a member of.which years t, the. old- Board - Menitir ? Dr. - Weir, e.S • could be found in our ranks. Iti the last year be understood, „was as old .`as i 7Sir Lucas' Pep-. s ; 11,720 men -were recruited, w Teich, together- with that is, he is bet ween sev,eny and teg,ltty years old those drafted from the Militia, arnounted to more was examined' :as a ~ p hy•itiian. so'. far beck as the than 30,000. From the total, on account, of deser- year, t 761, rt period cf 4.Oyears. 'Pe might be a very , lions, 3387 must be` eeintied. It would then ape . good ruin, end an' este:lent Physician, but %•he , 4 ,pear that the arinv. 11-:(1 , made an actotisiticn of deeweetie;idedlly.Sir Lucas for tiot. going, as etees 26,000 men 'in the course of tle; heft year. The his ditty, herein is surely behove.] the Go- • .gular deaths .of the' a-ro.Y he b- het ed avei aged Nernmeitt to etike that ti cy [,lei} for 16,.00.p. -"lb that tiniuter tin eltli.ionAl 4000 might the new to.mrd in the full vigour of life. he. saute • fairly lie addet i l in - conseqneitee the neginetitation cebjettion applied to the Qt:wr Neu metobeis of the of o,ol' force, • l'he desertion's,. Tegithir dealliS, and 13Wrd. • , To hr. Uro, There might be one !eaten .casualties, fideled to the numbers lestitethe expe- . . wtlicit weighed• with the Comm older in -chi e f in ditiote to Virrt;Cheren, must, les thought, le-iv 4 .! taken ...a.ppoineing them, and that ; wase [dint they ail celne from• the army doubiethe amountOf the number e Nut lb of Ine'rweed, rind therefile, beine ceuetry recruited; must at leesthave reduced our army by .e.ien; the Corn - ma:icier M - chief - thought he tin t .. it 30,000 deli in .the coarse of tire ,Lbt, ye:tr. lieeruit e give them a -good turn, arid as.he wes u:d 'himself; ,ing, at that Tate', w oot -make tin OM - !yeses, fie wourd s^et sometliing•near.big own Age. It this and consequently: our ferec!.must repisily .014 members hati been - , dismkstd, w;isnot pit= unless some means w're e of :increasing the nishment-setlicient lot the injury done time Lere t ee, trambers Ot that c sti of.stiljects iron; winch our inquiry..otaget to be Cls :`,01: t iti artnies were principally recruited. .He eme , s. 'comptieet to the do its of the station they fi;leet, pressed bit - retell diSs'atistiect with the reti:sochaments they tooget to 10.7,eresigned a .,aed net Inise . etto.eed e . that were' slated le - bare beer o made: He theught from their. neglec't, theusands ,to 01-e of • .whele regiments of caviery..engtit JO reiduced, as . :these Geotlemen examined .at -s:te liar,- and 'who front nature of the tat ntr (he .f;poke oti:the hads c iyeUt%-ason that .he had not u.ted t aut hbrity of Sir J. Moore}, cise.-Ot vasiob,'not ;he grealcs.eexeceimtion, had since deelered that he Half of our cavalry eaul.l.l e 'Made ore s 0f.,• wink its WaS se (ea:fused A ;Ile Tier, that heediei eot numbers wore so enormoesly ;li , at. • lfthis Fere aelett lit. said.; he 10i,,` to vindiciie his clia=. true of tug - land, it w.IS iliore•so of Ire:eittleems rac!.ter lmehoectl. he ni;ght hale the, oppoitoiiity, had been pi oveti I.t},ad-I,cel said .teet it tie did not, the,n lie jlu t eht le , b 5 putmilmed.--- this.terca At•;;s ...;;;;Imii view, to sa con- • :I:qt. W: then etherted to seine ebstes ioas rn2.-10 litvitiat war.- Hew thii proved`? lii the -by Mr..l'Ver•ill; et. a Teti'ctn DMner, at. - t.'sqmi'elt Expedition to Holland:i greet eavalty was tan- Imeceelde . poyed ; • Whet cevalty . was to do in the (13•kei at - sliew the *Count,ry••how eleVen 'millions • atol:l4y l 1-loliand lel:. Ile tda'.()Nl consider' might be saved . . , howe‘er; hat sett - - that - as aproot of NI ieister,' ignorance ottik3cousitry. sec i uyntly. been disproycd, and eeedervint d sucl) In the cat.airv- was eiy*Mtv.:ll a:ss. rtiptre, •as tending to bring time (..3t. - oenitneilttnto 'wz - intcd; the wars in that.courttey Via', b.-en, a eri,o - epote.;.eseee'eelly z ie the trlthl:6l.lbl 4 c .gte:at deeitled by cevetty ; yet euch eves the .tione could eet be ! rote';. diffi t culty-ef tran pie otr. tbat of torte, that 'this staientent 'with the . specch of a:mottle; Honour- net . rno.e [hall, 17 or 1;;,o0 c ? rt'any .11in'a.tis brought. . ableGonlereset HusiOs.;n:ty, upon. thesubjet : Into action, in if Cocaniy. idieue 111,.•.t . c.)-retr.e.ecement, which s el) e t t.-as copy ef ;tie posed to leave nearly 27,000. He then. ad , :ert es is 'ether Genneinan'S- (NIT: In 111 A •sp.e( h the Volupteerm i .ht. tit f 11,1 wish tti spo :- he had Stete - e, th_mt greet sal log and retittetems ne t ebt: ly iliern, but their eaveliy, seleich eosethe code/ 1i in do in the Adinirally, the Urdnanee, the-iseiro y e ley attimUtilly 12,5001, and Opyvntd-s, ot%ltt 'be. re- rod in time fit `deo.in ineets of the- Sian.... Why duced.. I-le had iic\t t-•,) ifotice int expellee which fie had they not been - Rleelts..? tin the pleiri nelson, be- coesidered as being ridiculously einman. The Pro: - cause the First Lord of the Treasnry has no eon; rotg • he-. nit of Forlifienuo t :s- in the .Sliiitlry lead' vier the deear:ments.. n aid 'tele the rier,lee het eon!. per yea:,Whlle ilme.,Writieg and -E e eeing wheal:et ii veaS iii prn1101" t there shoutd be : 1 1 I\.lasters-had - tall. ea !t. Thetigh lid wished' those eifteient evi-ty 1 n° Ilteetostrabl e L'e well rewerded;.leerid not, think they 2 Genrietnnoliad stated, I,,htit a tITCF. Fe.,tl.t;;;,ii l w ere Might. lo'haVe I . llCo . lllev 104- St-t quql to the prziy• of rt trot . aticliJed to, ht was i'mpossible tißit'y I tot sor of • lfete ished 'for an'expla 7 . 'go 'on iii loriger. Ikloilaea!te liadedireei: - f e d itstiou oflhe tnediciouestilniitzi, and rccornmendett seit,j'agatint this'eetettry -- At the redisction.of the tililllma, •if • - praeticable; . but . bat wliet W 01.11, - 'he• t•ay.:lo the itiollitei:r.? Wf i ene: nt'tren Ministeis aleginenting Our forte by ...,Sieish euttebrity•ief , the - Gefftlemae--ssueh Liking 30;000- foitig.ners into On!' pay,..they e0e 4 . 1. hit fitianeia/ milli r ry e t\i ii!lew.the • DCA tL Ace,o, - 7 iii, .01 forged sate Of.:Ourlitninces, Wo‘ild tit:l Fretichin'en cur o‘Vti':-.old-iets, he therefore suppocel they would . l'orov4f•:up their eimo's and cry out.:--" 11;ire:s'tt e:er ,go on and still keep . BqQ,OOO - [nen in arms, • He here'S a pr. phet Lemo . w.the conquest is nelmicteed, ter th ! ..n gave a•sariety of state: eerits tenting to chew I one of your. great Financiers, ()tie pf your Ministees to what extent our force might be disposable, and friendsi'an Ex-minister, tells - You - that the country • concluded .endeavouring to shew *the:folly of .keep- can't go on much longer ?"—The Hob. *Ow - I . :It-man • in., up kit :unity atmecessarily great .to be uoprofita- hawing descanOsd fur some time on 'this tq f ib, and - bly . wested, -rind expressi n g a hope. that Aftmeisters.- exptessed his determinatiini cot to vote anot h er wouldietittichwhav e r v;as aseless, that the force fshilling without further' conchaded with of 'the. country' might.be afore effeetiVe. " - moving awarnenclaient, that instead of *the I s tef:ort (ieUehil "r ARLEII)I.I razefejt:the purposc , oicalt ug better "-now read," it be read " this clay the attentiop of.the'Hoti'se Co ,tie cavalry, wide' ) nigh 7;"• • hed .beene alluded-to in sAllai . coneetvdd a very Lord Pe-esteits-r)'- shee•tly: replied to 'the several manner: In d ing was urged serely Bakereakern%_ respect to the *Chief peitit inques;. , by an. sense of thug, because. - au Hon,. Lion,. Vi 7.: fedth:lion in- the expanditure, he had fo -- ,Gentletnap who -La just spokiei seemed to think state, that a per-I:mem' reduetion hatl s taken phme that - the cayalty stiOu'.(l:l. - /e ~reduced. The -Hon. of upwards of 300,0001. .A 5 to l d;[' Lid W Gen'tleinau - was so far from Joining in that opinion, Boird, 11)(4 - had been re - coutweel.ci by it' Board Of' 1.1141.11 e 4.`0 iii not avoid expressing his regret - , that his - General- Oflicests: • '.4ijesiya . Mittistera' bad acced' , ..d to the dismounting I Lord CASTLEIttAGIi to state, that its con of tmenty men per, 'troop. This comaiiderod au i sequence of Some - suggesonns Made -te him while imi itnpolitte prbeeeditig, acid lie . s.von4l hazard - his opt : - •ollice, he had signified his Majesty's ,desire . to • o , e hiou itlifitary Orticer., that" the cavalry is the Commander in chief that aneinqoiry into -the Me moA'yaluebleepan of the, army. • As.to the volun- I dical, Department should., take .pLaoe, both as t o -the teer eaValry,,taey, Were usef u l,: pareicularly , in 'the' 'condud-pursued while' on service, and after the re, distridiS to which they belonged, for by. confining . 17 turn of the 'Expedition U: - fins country'. A - Board of "heir services, in case of invasion, to.theedistridis, liC.;enerai Officers : was accordingly appointed, o f the Iniaetry might •be let loose, and disposed of else- W i llich he..b,:lieved General' Fox waq-the President ; where. The Gentleman led with', they sat at the Horse Guards for several weeks, a e:t itriplorit .e is; iselinisters not to redee,,e the cavalry. •• then drew up a- report, which gave a ;'Bost minute', adverted to one. or two items in the, statement of . the Hospitals and .theedifferent sea - - Estimates, whlch, in his opinion, requited explana- . lions, and concluded with giving'it•as their dehbe.: tion. ''.l'heie , was a charge of 3'0,0001. for foreign mate opinion, 'that the Medical Service - bad been corps. He - Wished to kno.vn wherq they. were to correctly •ccuilgOed. The NobleLordnotif.Yed anus be fount!. Tltete wets elso a Sulu of 75,0001, f or I .ther pointy viz. the regnlar army. , ke. - stated; teat-• temporary barracks. furs item required time strictest notwithsfattding the immense losses vvbicl; investigi t itoo. The abose of the Staff %Vas' ae o mber had ee.petienced.in the -field, the regular force great evil. Upon ibis. establishment-were. fifty-'. I _at this . pet iod 34,000 higher than it 'waibn.the 141 . 1 - ' seven GeneralS and sixty-seven Aides-de s Camp: all j of March 18'07,, on the Charge of the Goveronnete, wi.titileeven fromtheir 'Regiments, of 110 S•iriiQe,to and that if the- jecreitingiee.nt oti, -it would tie the - country, and extremely burtherisome. 140,000 more than in CO7. • Mr - ..PARN"EL'I. condemned the War -Oface Esta- .• Mr. Wrserniteare did nOt - rnetin- to iMpitie ‘ Milne blishinent. 'Additional offices on proposed to the .Goeernmeet for the cond-na of'the Medmcal. by the . Noble' Lard '(l"alinerston) 'had "lieti • este- Board. Witt resped to the estimates, he did not blished itt 1795, in 1802, and . in 1805, butstill time i know.whether it would not be mere prudent tore ectOnnes were in ermear. ~.fer them to a Seledt Committee,. before theliouse Mr. WiTITEttEAD considered the •estimates as not ' were called on to vote. , satisfactory. Perspiceto - us as the 'lNebie Lord was Mr....HusteissoN complained of having been in bis opening, still there wet; some of the:teams . conceived, and consequently miirepresented-by the u [rich detnandett - expiatnaiob T particularly K i trivr* the - • . Hon. Gentlemen. 'H e d en i e d t h at the speech to 'head " contingeneics," of whielenumber there were), -'which the Hon. Gentleman had alluded was a-coun thirtY-o.vo. When . tic called' ;or an account . of the tetpart.of the other Hon. Geritletnan' i s (Mr.Wtirriley.. the manner in-‘i,-hieh the ittiteS.ol hest ye4r -lied been He defended himself freirethe imputation al throw 'expended, he was denied the account, and there- ing indiscriminate censure upon his Majesty's Mt loge he'coeld not consent to vox any more.' The emistets, but admitted that Ire had some doebts as to Hon: Gentletuan then wept on to state . his objec- the Policy.of cootinuhig the excess of expenditure tions' to the Several items contained jn the EstiMates: teferred 1.0 in his speech on 'a former night. With respedt to 'the pUrchase of cavalry horses at t Lord FOLKSTONE defended Mr..Edinutld Knight, two years, hethOught it . would. be .inoee expedient wlio had .been alluded to in terms of harshbess- in the ,and ceonort4cal for - Gement - Mem to parch - se horses r course of the debate, from the imputations of blame at fiur' or five years old, and '751. per harse, t cast Upon his Condudin the Medical Department of `than 251. at - two years old, beeause in Me former the late Expedition. • • case, they would be fit for ironic-hate Time' - Sir 3 .'New.FOßT..objetied entirely to the estimate Mtinx Feimeible.4 Which ihe - Neble 'Lord had stated! relating to the Barrack' Department in Ireland. - to bee kept up for 1-:e.Rriee to ptriteet the reVenue " The lion. W. Poeu replied at considerable length .-- aesinst smugglers, s"as coulpite. d, es he understOod, to the lion. Baronet, and *armly supported the- esti ofeentenlets theueielvei. ssaa acct . mate of Which he torieplained. onlypieyndiCial to The - aeji.i, ;literal interest,:but also , C.,lanel WAttpea asked-the Noble Secretary for , • Last tite.expence for elothing was the War Department_; who the Banack Alast'er. one Illilitcty ;tins year 6510,t)0n1e aid what. preerests Genetal was; ,Who, i; appeared on the face; of the • • 1 1 I