The Sun. — London, England, 1810-03-03 00:00:00

'I oker, tition pray ng Of ►ne be al in- dig 110 to be ,?, Fi 5 laid re the itl7 at ap wise [e had t ~' R 13'' o r tod form tat ion- Fi °use 1 icutar • -- ieity 5 . t bey clic 6f r igtir, °f it. 'lequer or read)P aid ill of tl'e .b that the list the oat in wasure efre 6- t Chat- t aketi ;abi net lings t ° - a I con- - rho) *mg as" hale PI 3 ,1 the cc be-P -,rwar(4' a lreadY 41i00 1 ` 1 • ,1 rtaiue by th e i :11p3re" ans've l. 01(3 . 5' ) O3ll ) . s. , e vr,.. to 166 _ con tra'f F of r ile 36 0 " 9uo ,te 3 ' l „ , u es 'to 3'l y tr4m o whcf ,10 tll to b l it e. pre* . e 14 0 1 red 111" r • diStilrl) '; )Itl lAC ( 3 3; re 4 Cer t.° V al .3 ' •..! hoary er; l b° !1 to th e i ; ,it 113 ' ' v cr frol llllls. rt inetll7. t wer)•/ • .., odcf cci , 1111— • - I ; Nlibl 01 t (i L re 3 111}13 )igler' ll4l A •: . 1 , 1 dor role • to, t l ' A d d -0111°— hbl' 03 ; ) f• v :itic( l it alit O b. : D nito otrlin j by 0 . 1 ; ,een I ° l ' ,tto "" c i aserte ma , con a -scetet tt~ ';i 2°l Th-tizi t i e , g behind the throne greateiethan the throne i manner, as he hid etpressed an intention of pains ~ lie etene .,- 6 ya strange fatality, the son of that en- Yale evidence out of -the•question. _• Bur had he not tit eee.rinistere it appeared formed now a part of 1 - raised considerable prejudices against the iediviOal, et Power by v. {lici t • tusesd . . out of ol ' his patriotic Father was s i- : who Se. condo& be !lair `so fdltsodiscessed e -by con . , . _ . forts-rm hing about the Er,t so _ et , .. . ce. There had always been A ~ e- 1 foisting the evidence glveq : lik idtm-on the 23d With ThrOne :by which the et- ; that of the 27th; where n appeareckto be of aa un tereee-devell G . ovrrt - icoe t v tad been at tines con e- favourable- nature ?. • Was it tooiniUch to ,require, 11 ; u nne * 3-11 -- ft etings of -. b is MajeStY odglit not to (iiVee it every one there - was unacquitnted with flirt sush an Ce . ss atikY_iiolated by coMplaitits,.:but 'When evidence;) a e shOrt tithe to-consider of it? -Would it thoti,tt instance.Of secret influence was 'found, lie be well to burry themselves on an occasiott which eu t „, 6 e4i. the*.ing'.se)esshould he opened to the cir- .. might consign the charaaei of an individual to such to sei , 'c'', end shit he shohld beteid • the British obloquy as the - resolutiorts vent .te throw' ,on the er e , e u ti(m ktisSr bus of ostensible servants Of the Noble Lord ) Wlist advantage could there be in in % en • t e I s t . 'Y'ti t le: ty el that . ..l-Lease, by record- Passing those. -resolutions on a Friday, : that might dies, ' '''' T ,'-irrials th, iransa6tions, and byttaking not be i;ainedill iltey Were not kl,.ci nedbli till iAtni.- such .„ sYstepsi, to-guard tgainsr:the recurrence of i day ? sWould lt not be better to ee ~ rte them till it,neo.i(i=„.irentestatice. Luid Cho-them had not Only , thee', that they might at least haici;: ,'i appearance Le ta ,_ai9!ii ;he c Onstitution, but hi, c•oridtia had of coni,idering the s - übjed_before" tii ~ , i have their the army heiweeol reljeellensihle as .eo tend to create di•.•is:O , s : vote? • It was not well to decide on teat ; aideuce, ‘l , is aster anti the-navy and thuS'bring ❑new ; which- had only been put into s their hawk since:eu ;ears t Q a ' theeceantry e It was- the..glory of-late ; tering the House that days The iHoin. Gee:clef - 11ln tasion hat the two services were On almost every oc- ' had commented .on the evidence.: give') by - Lord e9m Tim e bined on the 1 - 1103 t cot dialeo-operation.. Chatham on. the 23d and. 27th-of Febrgarv.; but .01 t,fre 'll r 1:141-1a1 complaints ,A inch farmerly arose am, could it be suppO4sl:thrit 'Coe' House was prepared til e : (- "ces to •Whieli thousands'or our' wart in's to enter into' the 6Ubli.!:a ?—lf -' the conduct of the kray e , c ' d ifi eed.., were now - scarcely known; 'mid the Noble 'Lord had been such as hsd been imputed to iltio s e ,' t lavY in ifieir op - srations were al vvays - found him, he should think the resohniens submitted to theilu?,,eart atidhatel •in rite common cauSe ' Lord • the. House hot T setliciently .severe. ,If 'Lord Chat - 1 , 1 - 6tra ct ,,, i ''Oi i orientY. extolifea the canduet of 'Sir hamehad endeavoured. secretly to bList the character. +lad stii_.'"u• el.hoseelpressions of approbalion he et Sir R. Sfraeilan,- he 4,i l vuuld_ tehdily admit tbat tio 1 11.,j ott ) ::4 1 -jei4lji centea&ted; long alt er the eve- ~ ..c.rf' c ur. th.? House could pass on such eoeslutt would he , 41_ 7 1. t''• expeditioh; and that too at a timesvheo .be tot) severe. :But Was there . ally thing inthe c0n..... w ere c i lr Y - :'-was intended .(for he knew that Ministers dui of Loot 'Chatham that ',Ci*old give a coloer to . ti selen _ler,-tnined not grant au inq uiry). The Geo-, the•charge , ?• -Was there, any thing ' in 'his clioraceer inguir ° PPosite. did not know at that time that . an that could jp'§tify,such an imputation ? He weould aw are Y I ', °Lad be Wrong fron t them ; they werenot have them . try it - by dates put ,by ei oeunsoinces.--- .sta ries ° E.their we a k ness. Under these .c i r cuui-- _lf it had .been his object - to gratify any. malignant ke st e: Lord' Chatham, three days - before the motive: he not'.then speakipg - of tfte eroeriety . . .'to . g°f Parlia t e etst , - - quir . at a time when ,fie knew -of his conduct), he Was of .opireoe he oeie have , • • ' , '.Privy , was intended, had crept in a covered • adopted very different measures. lie wo of the , lien ,e manner to th, King; to stab the Constitu- - adVoCate of the Noble Lord; tinder all the cire:sre-- -, th e .if not to stabthe C'' - stabstances ; he thought his Coi - Ana in-pr e.SeSif elg file 7 enara .4 .• coi‘titution, at lea.t to • net uli ( l er o t a gallant .naval Officer:- Why was Narrative seek as . no man cosld tholotes'el:;ippl.- , ,ier, I,,, tha e Narrative made, public beforei? Lord- but it rernaihed to. be seep what dee - ree 4 eseee _ ,' - k ept it back- though t it cotnPlete in oOtober ; but he had he might deserve, He would try the deice se • '‘, l\ ;ana t i v a „ el ;_; e because he Wished it to go in with the whether or not any, tnahortant rweivee le' 'Qat a ll i 9'‘'3itß. he. •He did not thenskn'ow Richards Strachan could be fiirly ifie . the sob. sddress *Quid - be presented to. the King on If his . Narrative was intended to tiller would i i 3 e ° - ; i)or did he. know that Sr It. Strachan -rafter of that Officer, why.. in • the' name ii'- os.surie ask e d i ,. i ( -all-ed on ter any such. Narrative. When . 'and of sense did he keep,it back. at all :, t._ki e. hat cak e 1 0 1 - hadheard that Sir IL Strachair would . be" 'principle, could it 'be supposed that he delayed l'Stl eet n •br..euch apaPer, the had answered - that he to present% it till he 15t h January ? If it were in ' ti ‘e, it. Ile : Th'lted, that s he had reserved his Narra-, tended to injure Sir R. Sirscban' prir. - •atelp, • would Itienti .at shetwe might go in together; yet subse- Lierd - Chatham ever have recalled it with a view russtez)i ' t aPPeared on LordiCh a th am ' s b e i ng i n t er - to have it published ? For the sinettion in which the 54 , 4 , 11;1E1 ° 1 ' the subjea, that he did not think ' , Sir R. NOble Lord l sood, he (the Chancellor of the Foie . 11 \s- e e ri b '.'d such- a on e to sen d. O n thi s subje& chequer) felt hithiself to he in slime degree 'resport -, h° coo n ( • I .' l Ile, it spoke for itself,-and .required .-1 and unless r a unlesshis mind changed. very much,- be aol , d idua "3' t. Would it be said' that Lord Chat- would never place as Officer in a similar situation, - Sir le , t tt° Mean to cast a slur on the .charikier.of I' to unite in himself the Cabinet Minister with the Ls tere''._rachan, .when in - nit lesS than twelve places • General Officer. - The inconveniences arising out.of : . Iliou ghl w direet blame en- his condoet ; could . if be that cireumsiaece,which he had anticipated, wet e it ' me cot / '; . 11 :' the Noble _Lord threw his firebrands .of such magnitude (though there was nothing uncon- . \ t'etioe i. - "- full exposition Of all these eirCumstances stitutianal in such an appointment), that lie would t i l lete i .. l , l ' 4 Aeci, guard again's'. tho,e , fatal eonse- : ne.vereagainblend ilh : ..st,lo characters . If at a future to tetuiWenieh mtght otherwise haVe been eXpected period a Tsfernber of the-Cabinet should be thought and tee,. from such enndUCt.- He hoopt-i-d the. army aproper person to conduaran,Expedition, he. would 'nobs, Y- wo uld' cose'n -t b .. t d on• all_oCea- wish his functions - as a Cabinet Minister to be sus-• e i . se .._ _ . 1. ne o e.uni e . 'lit se , . - c wow ( ' r•-• not deiain the House llongt: on - tended, for the time. Elie Noble-Lord, - acting as •::b - °Jeat. He _- ' ttl it „ sse. fel: some anxiety on the occasion, lie did, was certainly not correetly.right, but i't waf" os ~ as , t ; eltier not the auxtetyof doubt or of fear,. or if not , fair khence, to argee that on any. - question he 'lat hi-, i: d .t • (114 ) . proceeded' from an aperehe!ssion could give,, advice without iris. cs4.eelertteSbeing ac- e tt ytt e e i a " not done the subjeCtjusticesseshat he [tad I:painted wit tr,the circumstance. He might hair() ‘"llui.,°,, tr=ite something that ought to have been-I: been in sonle degree driven into the measure by the • JeSt e , : 1, •'• - tie thonsht the House could not ob- . popular - keling excited against him.' It was n(4.. 4 dies LI ResolutiOnSite ,had t.O subriiit to 'diem: too much to say, that aftershe.evideneehadbeen s Feris.,," . , l, tf tiit;v.stopped short of passing a vote of given at their - bar, the currot of pride I . ndignation lacunae t ,,, i 'LL s i 'ell condur-Vbe thOUght they would act • running tatijuStly-. strong against hirp (titotot. it was, ritied- ~.„'I Y , and_wouict lose the credit they had •for•he contended - that .theee were no. reasons for Pin s . ' ; 111 y wo--',211;-.ir---tormer vote , but agreeing to it, putmg miscoeduet to him), it was,not unnatural for • h ‘as ti e ,, 9° Prove to the country that they had snot the 'Noble Lord, to think it would not be prudent to 44- 0 11 1' " a ct been represented to -be) been wholly produce his - CiM:t of . defence; before he knew what • 4 'uts re , l Y (11 'their confidence. He concluded by; counter-statensents, were to, be made, that such - s e - -S., h T hu t r . ... might not appear to answer his. - Again lie wished ` t - i e ttni e e - ''uhn Earl of Chatham, havinixequested the House to observe be ;was not the Advocate of ' ' I ; 4 ',e of i l l') ., 11 , • ° ) t • l 'il Alijesty to present to him a Mira- the Noble LOl7l ; though in - the view ,he took. of ''',.,''vat,,e, - a roceedings, did on 'the 15th of January _ his conduct he could see error, he could not consent `"ele t ir s t'brui t . to the King a paper; bearing date to bestow the epithets• proposed; he could not ac the, pro ' of Oslober • e t to be 1 Narrative.bf cede to fhexesolutiens. 'He did not wish to evade .tirpor to . I t' ll ' ctruc'eediugs of his. Majesty's Land Forces under the subject ; he merely wished to give the House a o sel i)i,aildi,of which he:withbefd all knowledge fair - opportunity ofreviewing the evidence. He' had ll 'aroh e s : N i i *sly's Ministers, and the Admiral coin- ria objeation to state 'that line of 'conduet he in veNueigi til , e N"ral 'part of. the Expedition, 'whose tended to pursue on Monday. He should move the , ' , ar ts of 111.-.nrd itnOicated in 'no' fewer .than twelve previous question. The Narrative had been spoken ' t e r c l 'ary e• I ; s \ t arrative, and that 'on the 10th of Fe- of as if it had been constructed - with a•view of ere . - ' 'cl a - ten -a " been returned. to him ;in Conseqbence sting diffeiences between the army :and navy. -There attle w i lleB f troth him toshat'effeeCand . that the were no more grounds for such a statement than if - to t es ~,,i ci!,.aip.tendered on the 14th - of February the substance of that Narrativ.e had been given in 'istr ef alestY, haVing bebn altered by the owls- i "evidence at the Bar.. The Hen. Gentleman had t , ll -rste te ., a Paragraph, • containina an opinion, the Stated the paper to have been drawn up by the No- 'llatli " e " w hich, from the eZamination of Lofd ble Lord at a time when he knew .. that Ministers ' a t° alley se , had not been able to ascertaih.. Were determined to grant ,110 inquiry. .He denied ' ern j oi c° "dlY, That it is the opinion of this House, the truth- of that assertion . It was determined to ' ha no ''''eo guilt' Earl of Chatham having thils acted, had give the House such 'papers as would_prove,t t vls.e,l,Yrof.an unconstittiiiotial abuse of - the pris culpability attached itself to the army or navy ‘llicii le en i"Yed of having` acc'ss to the throne, long before the paper was delivered. It- Was for the could -not but tend - • ' injurious - ' the House to determine. ere. calling for more; but, Public service." to be highly to . se e .. tessue CHAN6ELLOR . r complained - to• give so much at least. Gentlemen, however, ' 'lst a of •the ...ACHEQUER ei eeil nrost unfounded misrepresentation had been on then other side though!' they bad nothing to do but tV,I B i„ (4 11:!s'eolldua; He' had contended that if to wait to see- what Government did, and ther!welii t \N-consistent to 'ask a Cabinet Minister to reveal eve( line of - conduct they might adopt, condemn t steei hY Nth be w as f or b idden ' i o diSclose. Wi t h 'their measures; and assere that 'had, the contrary rice:'. t° the incOnsistency imPtited to Mtn in vot- course been pursued all would have . been well. if 11.0,,,aiest the Address niter he had stated it toy be the Noble Lord had Merited the itnputations thrown 1i . „',,; 4 ,'° adOte , s tlie out against him,- he (the Chancelibrof the Ex- 'Aironenn such, occasions, the h e e. : kisntlernan himself did away the charge while chequer) would have said teat he ought no loi:ger . Illail'iltade‘ it, He had said that 1a - waeld alWays . to have been .a colleague of his. , But ,under the. trig t e ain .. that right, Out always contend' for the us- Prcseet circumstances if Ministers had aeteclso; ,end o to b it . With discretion. s Sa 'in this, fie adMitted r saidtte should nce longer haVe remained one- of their ti ate . a fair question, Whet Y her g or trOt - tha i t was a number, it -would ..cliretly have been imputed : to tle ee t v v l 'ieb iccould.be used with discretion? He them that they had basely taken advantage of - the . Cp l ., It'te thinkingslip. of their colleague, and sacrificed him as - a peace-, it 'irfiprOper could consistently 111&"1,71t. With offering to the people, .ter that misconduet which respeEt. to the motion , he hoped' • tes e e e ?. ° e 'e lAroold trot be Precipitate, -mid' vote the Night to have visited in vengeance the whole•Of his ~ . - 1. ti •I 'l '' s e Pr°Posed without due considera'ion.— l‘Pajesty's Government. - lie had no difficelty ' sty • • 441 beet!ll'l.B'lY) `A'llen he was itiformed that notice saying, that under such circumstances-in -a balencea • it w as , given of such a motions he had asked if else , he would suppol-t a colleague- He'begged not . al, joist Pst that to be misunderstood ; lie did not mean. to say if a • the evidence (riven at their Bar • W s , e b . e ' e anvaesed before it had b beenkprinred.. It- colleague was wrong he should under any eircurn seider'°l Lir to.stk6t.ono or two questions from-the stances .he sueported. • But in a balanced case, ..11tii„lice''' for- the 'purpose :where a colleague .was merely io error, he thought of creating a- discussion. ``t . ori e ;, -- ,,' 1. -''',',' wtre in be pursued , of What use. was by deserting`his cause, be should be exposed to more - .ti i.ll - t " ' :,. th e Minutes of the • evideece, as Gentle- merited reprobation than could otherwise fall to his t(,,, , , s . . iio.•.on Gies account did not reaUlarlysattend, share. -Justice, decency, apt' , propriety . alike called. A<,,... e ' , Q t hd teepared tOr the debate. Tee Hon, on them to postpone coming "to a decision on the "liio. li!iti ,-,: et - d -- • --• s ' . -' ' Resolutions that night e ire , therefore concluded, by eecio.„. , ~ , red in some measure aware of . i ' tt) PE taking up the subject 16 such a ! 1.10 " 4,-, ean adjournment of the debate 01 Monday. h ;A- • .111 r. BRAND thought It Was much of a per 7 social . a • constitutional 'question., If he were office, and a friend ol , his acted- so,- he would -dis dain hien as a'" colleague. Ti?e question. vta3 More TseriOus than-Gentlemen might think. A secret,in flutuce bad - , long ,torround...,t; the Throne.' The gtea t est oraeor this country, had prCdt Iced Ci‘ir.Burkey, had 'prnuonuced (hit secret. Mt-hie:tee .to be danger ois.,7--.[lT,lere the Hon. Member read ,i,pasage ftom a publication of M Burke's, it) ‘'vhicif that secret . intluenee was spoken of, •as dra,.‘i,ng-a line between the Court and the Adt - ninistratien, whiciNvere for merly -quony !nous, the:, pus er of. the one being - concealed, while tat of the otiwr was .rendered : ostensible.] He was foi• art e !rly ,4ecision,. though if•poji poneftwot were 11,:fcc , :sary to the Clue 'consider. anion Of t!e subject, he 5h0!...1d be the last man in. the world to op-,:ose the, adjourtinlent. ! He was averse to personal questt6ns, but wi , erta favourite at' Court was seen ireltuking the Sovereign against the' Navy, he had less objection .tcout-h alueqion than. he-should. have ti,ati, , r almhst any other ell - 01171- stance 4. He concluded supporlit-the Motion. Mr. BtolitilliT 6omplimenLed .019 Hon. ,Gentle than who had .bt'ong - tt the subje.:t forward on the candour and abi!iiy ie ..'l.)adchspil . red. He thought a great c ,, nstiintio),.:ii question, and one so intillnvely -affect to,; thj_t hono.;) t.l an individuttl„ought to corne on at a time. ~ t hen 00 obj;c4irincould, be glade to the period of bringif.g it f a-watd. As the arriend simOly for art adjournment ; and -not-in= !en;_ted ro get rtcl of the Inotior, th4uglit ITO in tonVen-;euce could result -from Complying .with ,)c , ,inot Aid) the .13:siness unnecessarily proems , tinated, but lie them to i)djourndt, that ibex ttkin - r-tteiy d-eide 'in a m inner of which coul., not be still I!,:tt they had not had •time, for - duly Nutlject that they were taken by my)rise ) or that t , f: re cc.uldbe - o.ti . }i doub - tsas to the ,case of - the Hou,e on a question of such itn _. poccr , ce. • , . r - This AmendOlent was suiipartecl by Mr. Creeve, _ Sir T.'TOrton, General • Tarleton, -and Mr. Whit bre)(i ; and npposed by Mr.. Seeretary Ryder. Mr., " D. Browne, Colonel Wood, and Sir Maik Woo(t The' question, on the Ainehdrnetit was tll.rn and negatived. -The Report was ir.eceived and at.,,re rl . Bill-ordered to be .read, a third' time Monday: _ _ . dantion r of Mr. IiVntTBnEAD, an account . - of the names - -a"Lbitery:-Otrwe Keefets, and tLe numb.er. of Tickets t.Oned to,eacii Office, was orde. - r0 W-be laid - before the House. Adjourned at Nine o'clock till Monday, THE INQr7IRY: MLNUTIUi i 1 DENCE, Taken before'the Committee of the. whole_liouse,,arpoint;-,i to coosider of the l'ohcy 'and -Conduct of me fate tion - to tire Scheldt. - TWELFTH DAY. t • , The Right Hoq. the Earl of CHATHAm culled -Examined by the Commitice. - - In a leteet , orri - LOrd Cstl6teagli to 3our ship, dated the Septetpber, 869, to be fouhd paper (A. j • ill No: 6, you) Lordship is:rc~niuc}eil o' - poitiyd instructions reiative.to•Obstrpeting;the nay gation of . the Scheldt; -ibe w,ords'are- these am. ti ; expivss to your Lordship`llll../.l4esty'ri.cm:- fidertt persuasion that previous to' 'your.retorti; in Conformity tc,_ your irtsitnetions, dour `L , -ulsli will co; , operate- with the navy -in' giving 'effect' to .any.measOres Sir Iticliard,Strachan may 'think ii 4.4.6 'WHITBREAD conc&ved tne only possible f!vx!(!cis which cimid b:; taken to raise cavil deity .11rstied by .the Right Hon. Gentleman pijr. lei v,:;o;,witll ti.rtpect to his own conduct in .bring ii; forward the - business, he had uuderstoydrrorn hiS Hondf;iend (Mr.Ponsonby), that after he had quitted the House on the preceding ayening,lt - was settled that the motion was income on to-day: Els had so constructed his resolution, that it,:vvas not necessary for Gknitlemeti tb L e in possession - of the second day's evidence to come to ,a decision upon, the present question,, The ground of complaint against Lord Chathap was, that lie would not. tell the-Cotnmitte,:. what was the substance of t the alter-_ ations Which he had-n . 111(1'3 in the Nu-naive, Wish ing, however, not to be understood as - taking the House by.sur i ;rise, hushould - 6insent the adjourn ment, of the :debate' till_Monday, i upon .an under.; standing that nothing, should imettere with the re sumption of Oenefal _G-RosvENott w i as fully pershaded that the more. Lord C6athain'S condud vemigatcd, The better would, the Lot.ise be satisfied with it. General IIiFTUS thought that in ,candour and pro priety delay was called for. The CHANCELLOR of the EXI-TEQUER was r, ady to give the questiotr the prnedence on ; bat at the sanie.,.tiale he observed, that there was a tia tiee of, motion 'of an Hon. (Sir' F.-Burdett) fur that day. _ • ‘_ . . Mr. CI.EEVEY, lb :the absence of the Hon. Ba ronet; postprined that' motion Tbnrslday, and the &bald On Mr, Whitbread's. motion was .adjourned till Monday. . - • • , adopt fur obs!t z titipg the nas:tgation ut i tie - Si:twilit ;'-'• . What steps-dia your Lurclihip I,ake t , ) give effect that-insutv:-Aion ?—I had it not' in my polder' io give any How was the army ,epployeAfrom the ta,king of Flushing on' the i2th ur Y isth of. August,, . . _ retreat was re 5017,4 on ?—The ar(t)y'' was not ,L7n-f -ployed at all dOring - Ctiat Eeriod,i , it could not - be en - 1 7 . ployed_during;tbac pet idd. 13eturei or at t* time of t l t sarung of thse expe dition,. tray your Loalh:lip instruc:ted.to,bel;eve Ant- TREATY Wfl H PORTUGAL. The CHANCELLOR of the EkCHESAUER wisued to' postpono the consideration of the question - which stood for this day; because nQ opporttinity,had been: afforded of laying the papers relative to ,the expence of maintaining the ire'ops •proposed to be taken' into-I the pay of Great Britain on the tl;b16:: He hope't • they would be'ready on A . ,londay, and as it . was de sirable' that the discu4si9n should not arise until those papers had been receive;l,• he: 41ould propose that - the consideration be put oft till Friday next. Mr. PONSONini thV.i . OLthaf:it' would be better that the :further discussion or his Hon. Fsriend's ,mo lion' Should not be 'Prevented on-Monday, and there lore was for -the delay pi•opowd. The CHANCELLOR of •the EXCHEQUER was de- sirotwthat nothing should. intervene to . prevent the, discussion. Alter Some further observatiOns from Mr. Ryder and. Mr. Ponsonby (who ;visited it to be. understood ,that the Inquiry into the. Scheldt EXpedition should stand tor Tuesday; provided the debate tin NOnthy stiould precithle ,going" into it), it was agreed that the Pdi - Rigal question should stand forTriday l • Mr. CA LCRAF,T give notice, that as no securitiee. were taken for :he fidelity of the late Treasury - of' the Ordnance to his trust, he shoukl bring the, sub., ' jed undor. t 'consideration ot the House on Thurs- daY, the 15th ot March. •'• . Mr. WA rgxEs - gave notice th.tt on Tuesday he should 'move an Address to the King not to grant Places ity Reversion. - , . • The second' reading of the &inking Emheile , meta Bill was postponed trout illond,iy till Thurs thy, on the 0( Mr, The Foreign Linen Extort - Lill went .throwh' a Committee. : The Muhl) , Bill was reati a second time, aild committed foalonday. SPAIN., Lprd CpCHRANE wisted to know from his: Ma= jesty's 'Ministers, whArer they.intende,dlo crnfiloy any.military force. to assist ;the , Spaniards it pro tecting their coast, which was ill defended through Catalonia. The CHANCELLOR of the. Ekcn.E9,uE,R thought, that if any military 'force were 5.,?.0f 'to the point's which the Noble Lord desired, t would afford as sistance to, 'France rather than to .Spain. At the same time, lie wished that -the Noble Loid s ,would . not disclgse to the ene.my those points which were open to attack.• Lord COCHRANE, in reply, observed, that what ever the Right Hon. Gentlernan.might'.think, - ,the maters he had stated ought to be.attendeci.tO by. Miniiterv. • • LORD WELLINGT'ON'S ANNUITY. On the bringing up of ~the Report of this Bill ; it, "WAS opposed by. Lord POLKSTONE,. WhO, ; i:).wcl.:l - to 'wait for intelligence from Portifgai rtlati c , L 0 result of the 6tupaign, moved,rha . t,instca:l the word - '.' now,' the report be received on " Mundy • se'nniglit.'' werp to he prevailr by a- t.,up,-cle-stain had inteiligence-.cormMunicated to rner,tlrat the fortifica tions of Antwerp were, in 'so bad-a state that perhaps it !night be. optn to a youp-de-`rnain.: , success had attetid'ed the attack on the arsenals of:Antwerp and the French fleet,' was yoilr Lord ship instrueted to look- toauiyult riceulziect i•-1 had no other instrucloits_ than are. before the Committee. Your Lo'rdship having srated that you Iyad receiv. , ed intomation that the state of tile works' of T. _ •Antwerp,)lntwei pWra - liable to be taken by a ,coup- ,-- de-tnavo hum did - your Lordship seceiie this information ?—Jr was in the jnforniation which has been.laid on the table; I received it from_ the SeL - cretaty of State officially. . - . Did any conversation pass between your'Lordihip and the Secretary Of State, upon the 'subject oi - ttie • taking AO t werp by .a Cdripyde-main, do.noi . knowV , absolutely-by tv.coty-dc-mairri but I had conversations as to whether it ht:ight not, be taken' withoot---a re aniar sie o ue / or v., it bout a bombardment. -,. In .what,, way was it proposed at that time that 7, Antwerp should be' taken, if not, by a couptde-mlin; - ,yet ,witimuf siege or bombardment thqe had oyeniog. fix it irprn the state o: the 'anti the weakness. of_ the garrison;- probably by 'as, ; Sault. •.! Drd Lord . icastlereap, - h: ex`pres§ to ypur, Lord,,hip" any f exiectaiion. that Antwerp wonla,,Le. taken by asiault Certainly- emires,ed such expecra on, under the circumstances which I have s.tated,' . Those..- circumstances. mean - the ; o ',which .your Lor(:kiiii has referred ?-,-The w inky baitig in so bad 'a state, and the ; OrrisOn so .weal: 'to adinit of such a [fleasLire.- • • . - Did Lord 'Citstiereaci inform your Lordshl s tl at P ' he supposed the,works to be so weak, and-the' gay - - . rison to be in sudi a state as that your Lordship would- be able to take it by,assailt seemed certainly to think that it mi L lht be liosSiblei under the favourable circninstarices I have'tnentioned. . _ . With all the intelligence submitted to your LOrd ship by Lord Castlereagh, did your Lorbs,hip ever entertain any expeaation that you should be able to take Antwerp by-assault ?,—lf that intelli,gence, which represented the. yery dicayed state of • the . worliS,. and the absence of troops to the - peat ex teat stated in sotife:of the intelligence, had -tuit,ed - out to. be trife,l Certainly thought it might have been - possibe to hate taken Antwerp )337 some lons attack,. probably-by assault. _ Wia,cour, Lordship - state to „the Cornmittte the narri , A of any Geheral Officers with whom - you con versed on the subject of taking Antwerp by assault?" I should.think I alum have ineutioned it to all, the` General Ot4cers; or to all:plobably with whom I had conversation On the. subje6t. • _ Previous to at any other time did your' Lordsliip - evN:r ask the opinion of Sir Eyre Coote, as to the prattichility- cif taking-Antwerp - by assails, or • _the .probabifity ot - success in that enteptlie ?—I nut ask any formal opinion on the • sublet of Sir . 'Eyre QUOte . ; but xonvers2d with him op fetent mode's of operation that we might pursue: Is the Committee to understand that nd °Pinion - was asked-of orm?•,.!ssgiven by Sir L r,2 CO„ to on t bar_ pal ticular point ?--No -formal \\7,ts any opinion at all, formal.or to your Lori hip by Sir , Eyre Coote on that subject ? do nut know . th4t there was any optu'i(7n a, all , given ; "because I know thatslie . e.qlqtkrext onr &,:t -ratrOnsmust be reoitlated . 4 circumstan c es arrive d. Can,Yonr Ldrdship name any ()the: . General Otfi , cet - heside Sir „Eyre Codte ?-; r 1 Concei‘e, as 7 'said . before, that the questioh must-• haVe arisen_ in 600 7 versationwith all the General Officers.; we talked generally of the Ineanlnf out fuither operatiolls, but n distinCt opinion. Was asked, bedanse4 Aid not conceive the?coul:i give one. Discs iecolleeLany marked conyer. sati . on on that sutijett with Lord - Pagef? 7 4 Lad a gOoti 'deal of crn different times with Lord ,Paget. ; I do not recolleCt any morke ‘ d conr satioti, that is, any fornial opinion ikta by him upon "that ;subject • , • . s. General, GroSvennt:?4-I have had conwersi-' tion , 47ith . General GroSietior on,.t he subject generally. With "General ,Brownrigg-?,—l • _ . Upon that particular pOint thzit point._ Dues your Lordship recoilect theconveriaii,yn that passed Le6veen your LordOin.atici General BroWn rigg on that particular pOint ? 7 - 7 I cannot .recoileq , ,