The Sun. — London, England, 1809-06-20 00:00:00

-, , , ~ , i ll; be was convinced tnat .ttiat, , ) 41)ttfrave been lanN) ' ,doubled.. The next subje.4l-to- which he should ad- ' vtrt.,wasf.-Arinyv4gocy.p I SijaptllNVtfultutaTtttand seventy-one , pot Aids was tipl4`.., yipett44 kn t y,A qv& Agency. He Would take upon birnsefiti) rot, 111 at byallh. addition !ill ' to,0601; a': year *to - igis'Grierat Agency Office, ttlre4djt,estsbrahed,,tthe; witnle'-.iiif till business iTgyt,,l)o,4einv#,l,aucctvArtimrpippap.... Lie would not tke mto.icinsideratibiLtl`leOrdrtati c e 4 which was divided nito three heads; Ist, this r i se Artillery . , consisting of Prtrhops, 'which' cost min-, ally i 13,00.014ttdlyla therklo*K)QATlfilitipDr4rs, which cost annually (beSidesextraOhlinary., fopenco4) t 29,0001. ; and lasoy, the ContraZA.liorses, which cost •annually.'29:9,lit6l:' - i-ift'et' close intLeiry in , i i i quarter:Whence be . wascon fi den! , that ho btici: derive undoubted information, 119 , watonot-afraid tutalWrti that from all these expeuces the annual start of ;99,0004 i might-i,b4,i„444o,leaving : thp coontry In pOSSe'SjOUOf the w - lible of the I Torse Artillery, and be the Artillery DriVers ; )Vitiell N.: was prepared to Prove was.moteithao•conl'il I. v. iii tod untie r any pos• Bible circumstances. ; PigiA\rtillery Drivers were at present solely attached to the guns, the managernent of which Was , forfnerlytthe'excluSive province of the Horse Artillery.'l4e4atl been . told, that recently at 'Woolwich, when tkixtidery'drivers were with,. out employment and idle, the contract•horses were employed to do the very sarnedtity which the ar tillery drivers used `liamerly. l "'ll., next subjeat to which ,the attention •of th e HOuse ought particuthrly. to be direCted, was the col:Witt-1 of the fortifications at home. By the papers on the table it appeared, .;fiat seven hundred'lliotisand potinds had been ex. Fended within the last ,year for the erection arid le- isAir of fortification,. This was a . bighly uojustifia :Ole eXpendi•tne, and watild a pear the more sb, when the mode'id whiCh it was, applied ihould ".be considered. 'PO('instance, on a certain ,part of the coast, 'twenty-seven LI: itelln tower. had 1)e0 Ceded. It was'iniended that these towers should 'each carry along -gill) atid a lukwiter. , Atter they , Were fthished,• however, it was discuverd that they had ...been built on a wrong plan, and that they were only capable of carrying ailing guni ..I bucon-' Senuence,, of ,Wilic!,,was, that the gun could not b e . punned at , any otijeat within 2.50 yards of the tower. In NOvenibi,r too, itiot . oi,the.se towers were fOund by the engineers to, be;, plaCed in too low a situation, exeep,t, four th3t were a Tittle htglier than ltieit neighbo.tis ; . but these it se7ms wt.) e but it 04 ' 'illuickSatids. Nrt,ir ti as tlii; hi:Oiltioll uf thr..6C tir,s , er6 'ail advantrgecqs one. An extent of shore ,of six. Miles beYbitc! theta . WaS.,..tpore cutnincylioits tor a an. : *i!T, and yi;less' ri g iish pilots could be pot on baird k.: , - , 11 ships; it :Was not probable, that incase 'if '.11) ,aittii): at'inirasion, the'enetny would et er ap proach .1) , ,5 , :_, t - ~ .ts. St.II, however, they had cot i . the e.tontry a tni:, , ,- of rooncy ! Nor was Iliell',o l ,l llilitiiry Cntial a It•ui.i.; less reprehensibly Cu! dumed. i It vi;al ~ V ) cunstruaed, that iht) soldiers in the pa rapets could never bring their fire 16 b:.'ar on ' the .canal itself. It dio not prii.ici,S One !Linking 1 4 , 11 , :itioy. '4l,er it had been finished it was found ind.:tetisiblei.; 'and now it ‘ctis 'a 'iliatier qt . doubt, 14 healer, , at a prodigiCotts`eltpeliCe,, tl Inking poii t ion.; F,houid he'Ciirt struCted, or towers erected tbr its defence,. 'flitis %vat. tlierpubhe , tri.ney wasted ! and 'this. too, after the suhject bad been fu s lly'diseth.ged, •ah•ti so - coat vlettily tiecided id the llonse of . 6)mrtionsi. - FOr- Ailicattons ,'ere not wantod in this country." We it : was the use uf the t :i ~ i omits to; I iticatiorts . on the" 'Heights or Dbver > 'to txm tlio‘e !Oriiiit:ations and I)o‘er (;aqle`toether would rt'quire L>: ,(tall .liiti )c It was welt, hnown that 'l', , ionapitrre '.hook - ! not da rt to attempt a landitt . im tho liritish coastiti then taeu ' of 10,000 ' men; iltrd yet he was, a toiee ot hair doole that . :fnunbo'r' t6...68;1uc31..ed up, and itieliii t . vil;tittsti 'itid'itaiorr. ' l Ctut"Of b irie. SOM therefi)4 6. 9l 7C0,0091. aiinnall.sll)pi f ili'Afhif til LirsikatitiliS and i their re p o tit tibtr,t)tol'2.'nikill i ct. ell •be saved. Ill`' .. i , a . cfaitiiii) 4191,01iWtie. ha i l already Aated on shis sub-11 ; jeat,'he had to observeri7i7 the fortific its whic . ll" h zid`bOdiiere'nted . iiVll:Siek; 'We'it , .. land rk4P.,:tg.,, to 1 4e6y ; Ht,,i , that' rfe tiltrileriiiii4acyltd i ., 10 "at 1). , .- sent plongtted 'tip. Fie ittihritOoiniiat i iiiiiitaLy zoadAyas nukt?' titalitt i'C; Sew idod ) . wof,Ch i.e 5614: - postid , *(itildtiiion be • :):-..jtrd . fed: tar,:': dill t11...11 iylo- •thet-wOntAili . eolihn'folli.:4l tli i AN''.l":4%4 . ! lit the end of July, 1 80 7 3 , 1 .rtiiiiA'i(l'it i o 'lir Militar 7 . Crnal Id cat ) }- , ,), • 4;97,000i :I At - rr: stioaa'd,li:e4 (4 - c:oPsiOer ,6". e. 0 ) !i 1- ; iiiis4ariar ; .. 'Ot i ti."Uttihlo4 iiiihe i 4o s '.lo):,.:itA' Ic.-.eit ~ i I :leard . t&eliiiirOtPlalgiV ' ;.plit..t, . l'!i , :!11:11; - ;1;3;). 4 s related ef it tiP f .iii : ii:'N crt . ',.;le,y - :,' , :: . e,f0m, ,1 iii4:- cientltd i"teinirylN . ol.4iiiCifa ;'; , li,i ip. u1 , 41 ., 1 , -10(.4 ilifit ;, ' this toiltant: Officer, ' 01ib5,..: jut.i..U. , eiit zl) 4 iti, ac4ttrasy -.. were tliittotibei, - , ‘...as vi,..: t.-;(., ,, , I . p .. ,e,,,,2d With lo i i prg- :i setir CofnmiOilrilf,' ti:.!;; tic: 1%0 . 1)1,! , 21) w:9l:.kfilit. *Well' p receded it. Il e i.. p;) . ,;-: i':i e» the tal2e •w6iil'il *, that . m exp sheen, e enCe Cf tzie t.:(iiii. - .l!,,ariiit foi the i I; year - ending the 'lst 'of fa ifra ty, ) ;i 09 , wris.,l'Ll- Grcat 'PitAiti 1;642;7051.; t,,1. 1.......:!:!..,,!, ..:), - •„(i001, 1 1 111;i4 .; -in the wlible, 1,797,7ii.T. Wail: chi. (..; . ,i)cti;lii , ..it; was , an foreign station:4y' he V -, I:nt 1,)1 . ...p.i1eC. tu ~, - she*' ; but be \v as p-epoi - ed tii sh;,:w that by ,et.ono- !I miy mid a' proper estathibinetir, .e (cast •' . ..iii,f-n?ut itight.be iiii4norly ~ti‘4,,l*- .. ! > ('tt or 1 4::,:.: .iiOn.. I; . e 11i1..1 IlleOtiOned. "Ttld at NA it . ,:::11 ,of"»-ur 'bl s itifary e xpen cliturel*lnn'&ed to fte...•l7,drrxlt. Depa,amcint, l'he 13-irrtieks' or Crof Brit i :l'il nil irci,ild ,::(;;,..c• annu ally '704,94 . 21. IT 1 ... - ..e ‘1 . 0 , ;;.C. tn,:o npon IIiOISCII . 1.0 prove, that' this was n roost pr4:lligattit e . xpqn 7 dititre; and that sn', , ::!er liti , ,;ht i..): itsconitgtably . . . country of aetottio'.odated, 'with a saving to the , y . a . . , 300,0001 ear. -It was a curious fai . :t, that . large. ttrils had been ,experided .in Ireland in the mert,ttinti of' te;ri)r or ry and ' pertnanent bin - tztcks to lbeihrionnt 'Of i 05,0001, tit' the colic when there were three.or four large_tinoccupied batracks in', the county ofl i VickioW, antt a nuriiber at • tenyerarlf barraks that had net 'been ecenpi,:c.l tor six months. The next subject; a subjt-a to which it...: bad op a former occasion eallel the attention of Porli.upent, wasibe, clot hi rig ol' the artily. Vheniiver the dis- , cluSion should be' resumed, he was ready to i shew that (title shillings a roan tiVot he saveti'to;t he tab- tic if the Clothing of the army were made a mat tur o l open competition. 11)6 canttrati of -Mr. Cpurt-. 11 4, the clothier,. was 55. 6:1. a 10.111 under ,that of Messrs.' Pcaree and ()diets, who ,had private con trat.c.fs i and this wias without regard tu accoutte meats. It aceoutrei)lellii hilt' added, he felt jos titied in . rciwating, that iii: s„vil)g to fa , : public would be at has! !,!..).'a mail, niiiliiii.l upill 300,1)0,0 men' a saving tit no less .111 ~ i ou,- i t t Lin 1 J.5,0001, l'he -4 , :hithiqrs LI -private/Al - mt.:ll'i', tr: eve alai) in . Tho I,:niit,„ by their °A n ConfeiOna, , ' 1 C l 'it r '; ill. 10 -I•Ycr vt - 41 ' 1 * 4 dditi‘'La!, in CQli'svon.,:pce. ot . tilttn.iii)g paid .., i consideFatipn' o sirs h Ali aZtate , 9ifertr• "' /"!"' ' '" •", for Ai, mon atter tile :delivery of ih-;1,-.,7,t;!itot-ois..: 110 NOY , . ut%:,ol'Ved, that `lt ri.c; Sti i I) A64 , ;01.)01. tet 4 , 111 hei atierimhds, tip) t ithe littor#4.loiiitte,abl4 qp.47ifsgtilatißgyafcfy(;EßlAlclacEtus.94:, f 3,,O.) . ol, ayE4) 4l3 ;i 4t l to • I,ll)ffardi of &SNI,OSIt ii‘4 , a-j7ear7 - 1-re pledgeahipselt.to.lirrvg this Fitt of the lost to tho etfontty, and, together iki,fiihe tuteiv - st ititifB6tblbh.f‘Phillitetlei)( e;4lYTlV'thei t fek-fSeikihn::: of di4 aprrot)riitted to paying qty the I\litif3l4l' 1 )eht; amounted:in, ail tat', ttiAliaillo iPlarJ I AV hen tly - ilqure al tlifiii,q . ;?niktry,..pl i efev.si t .f t c.n it t ii t t !: a t suble4.was started beforef4tiitonftableGen 7 i_ n, ttir the hist,.. onr :years. Iti theyft;rrend- ticman had e-ave it :is los (Tinton that tilt,}'. ought to t at 4 tliVatitia * Fr 1 1 ) ti.(iGYr linfklV,,Pri IV I ';",;_4*-4 ,&, 11 -. i mintage the 4\ - 4tional byte, w ithotit receiving any iwilieti - yrdirssnillog.the IP ltraft.Fahuttry i80"7.01i t tell interest from the sum 4(A - updated tei l that l. ptupbse ;., I t i p ; 14,4715 4 8%91. ,‘,,iii tilits.ypin;,eit,lint.; flit:. 5t14 , 0-,1, , n. and he did think, for .his owrr pita; that that interest, 1808, it witi 1.5.,596,5: . 3b1:; ar.,.,1 io :1, , . ) ear erii.i.ing arnotintin to 2 I (1,(,941: - -nuiritt to be struck of •-•.-• wt. A , t :•., ~.....,_ .. ~,i ~, .....,_ 1 . ) .. ; , the stn 'tt ..t.10.10: i 800, it a.,,iiii . but t..) tu 5 . -id, 601. vca annually' expended, pensions and - 19;.too 0001. a.ln justice is') those (46 - Atlemen, • ‘vho , sitiscuresi '..Sinecure Offices of late bad been ; wasi-' i cett - ainiy were not in.the,driipit pf„stsa• ring hitn,: - . , ,bi1t.. - tiered 4ik•freeholcls. This was not the case in-t 1744, to whom hi tot fc.A therefoi - 4 . ,:',,M It;:iil4ltc,t , -,td valien the. i e Teitorships of: the. Exthequer were re tti'do jastice,' Ite most - olisett•(-' iliit - (''r 1 11:* - 10 CIO IWO !Vli3ecl aildreduced on aCtoant -of the increased ex years :t hat Aliey rwerein . atiir e ~:, the:nen - 1i turf-it-Ape a- --', : pente,ailet:ih et? the ,army.eitablisliment, If such an 1 diture of Ilittite.ouotryr.was,-tyouiltions 4 def t i,-ticin .economical'arrangetotnt..could be necessary . at that f what it had been under ;he inanacire'ntrof.their - period, how much rani: necessary was it at. the .1 • , ••. -A. ... ~ ,-, , ? ,„- ..:,.., ,. , i.,, „ ~ , . prenecessors: ' - taaving tilsrlitenea th .aittitory part preient f stiq,e7oi. tia: been given away in bonn tifi his Subject, he It should. proceed to - the Ci v il. ' ties, .some of .which he thought. at a very extraordi :,. appeared to bjtn ;hat a Verymaltrial.Savingtoight be nary nature. 3,5001. hid b e en given to the Froier , made io the colledion of the Revenue of the country.. Men of I.ondon and \\testi - n - 41 , 4 . er. ~ ,I- I e thought they ' And,: first,• \kith' o.6;iril . to' the Ptisi Office. By the hactelitouragerptent enough' withour'snch a rewaro. Reports on the .table, it was ,vident, that within; . He then spoke a qie , ex i iences incurred in esta four vears, - after 11:Ir.-Palmer. hid quitted: : the Post-. blisltiog. 3 new Nita; a bpos,' had „been none, •' Office, the txii.,,nce of that establishment increased ' cessarily given to the Pret,idnt "Cf the 13.:.r.0l of Con-. i about 187,0001. In Mr: `Dititner's time it was' tionl, wllich cost the ustion 90001. and in - addi- - ' 1200,0001. a-year ;t - now it teas 100,0001; 3-year.'. tion to •that, 300 0 1. had 6i.rit expended in repai r ing' ! NV.llyth is increase hat occurred he :knew, not ;, but one in -the Adelphi. About a .tuillton : and a holt' ! bis:tniod was strongly,tinoressed with the idea, that . bad . been sent in k•rny Extraordinaties to our it might be Curtailed. : He had o.l.,oained sonie im- ' tOotties, while IC,OOOI. had been sent to Steira:' portant infeimation '-ivith rep ect t0...01e collection of Leone. The Fishery ot CaP, RI eton itcpy cost us no the Customs, and to the patronageof that depart- ii -, eottsiderable sum-in bwoutes, 'hough in ii meat of the Revenue. Beforethe erection of the dal nut cantribute It. than 1,000,009 i. to the re East India Docks, 111‘... West l'wha Docks, the 1.,c.n. . venue ,of Fiance, winie it ernpl-yed SB,OOO . men. don Docks, 6.7 c. ' n P 1 band able difficulties to encounter tiom the xtent of the of the Atnerican WV - . r did not efweetl 400,0001. an- ~ I\rharls over . :which they presided ; : When dit.se raally. In 1799 it, amounted. to ' .2 0 900,u001. and ..di:cks were Lanai. ,and w& n tli, sphere of their la- since that pelitid it liad been' doiitA...to, and, nyw ' boors was cOnse:quenily vely coinnheitiolisly contaitt-; ' ainOnoted to 4,0 - 00,0001. sit , iCe 1799, i,Uoo,oool;had eel; it was , tahly to be expected that theirntimber been added teleet) those in onrck w.i.ko,..it. allowed. 1 .woul(i be decreased, On: tbe :eotiliary, they were a propt.r and constitutional indul:getiee,.sson.d be . increased. T. seven wiii), ~ ,i,,,idy e . ,05t,...d, three V , :ry `fat bent standing in fife 1; 01 . such a (ince to f more were attached. - Similar ;lbw...Ns of patronat i e in hind them to Iloglanci.-1-laving thus S'.'iated Ktitti• other deoarrnents Of. the Reyenue had come to'hia cienr.grounds for making the assertion, about:which knowledge, and'ite-trusted, t,eretore, that he - should bt) o , .ttcli had been said, tic now came to a sobjett-oo not be accused , of .proceeding ,tpiin Itglit &quads, whi,: - Ii yery strong opinions had been gis en out ot when he expressed his couviclion teat .i very niAte dnors ; tho grounds t - ,,r Which would have btell Cloth; • ri:d - publie r saving Might be etfeck.d in:these parti- away, had the suggestions of a gallant •Admital (Ad.. ttinars. In the Stamp' Office also, the amnia' charge roir.ll 'Markham) been ;Mendes! to. ".I'l i si deft. Gen , for the management was 130,0001.. fie verily 1100:- tleni..ii gave a stateme at Of exist tip . ; ;! tusc,s, it wou.d ed that he could point out :i tray by which 100,0001. bes,unbeconfirig in itim to Ive fin Opin i: in ii.) thar!siih. . ; of this sum might be deducted.'For the'Colf6dloa'of jett,dint he had every reason to I.iow to th e superior , Candles, i s percent.! Alt , these charges were stai r knowledge of, these from .whoin he,detivecl, his in ,ceptible of inucli'diminution.. He.should next •al- 1 formatitin. The InspeCtor of thetanyas in the , Navy vet t to die Receivers of taxes,,:who,, be tioderStood, ' Was, he understood,' no other than flit: per , ion by were allowed three billipe,lice In thepoutttl'on the whoa it was supplied, and it was in conserplecce un ithileetion of thelatiti anf.hossVssed taxes,'which land • favo,itably bad in it, quality. ; He then tittverteil 'to .and assessed taxes amounted to six millions annual- . the losses sustained iii purchasing tiniber, and some .Iy. But it. appeared that , balances to au enormous :which had co:ne to his knOwledge in the Victualling `artintirit had.heeti allowed to re`main 'in th,:n handi. ' department, in that as , WelPas in:the Cloathing dt.t.- Vhy , ettelt .a.prtteliee should be - tolerated, instead of partnient, there was no .competition, find the con, placir,g those balanceq.in the Bank of ..England, he tracts being thus shut, the conntry w:As put to an ,was at a loss to conceive., .By a compr e h ens i ve , unn ec es sary expent;e, e, wink. Iho :articles turriiShed statement of the expences atteinkint on the ciille t - were nut i n qua li t y wh at they ought to be. • He :don of: the 'Reventie inlitgland and in . Scotlantt,'.it thought the accounts should ,get intosueh a train. that ivatlikkappear, that •in Engitind the colledioti of every Nlen - iber of, tharlionse alight be Able to refer. to .Cnsionis coSt 91. 14.5. lid, per cent. of the .1:;x 7 ; to them without ditEculty, and ascertain the true ' ciiSe,.iir. t a . .,;.14. ; in Scott:Lod, the collealon Orate ; state of the eXpenditure of the cobotry. 'The pub . -esysoio;(i-.()0‘ til. -. ,tisl.' Bd. pee i cm. (;f the E x cis o , tic tunas b 4.1 great losers by their acconatsnever he lii..ss.LlC . ..7Tkritt differeace tA,•as very extraorditiary, ing.fititly balanced. A INl.t,,ble Lord (Lord H. Petty) ' a insthe was . persuaded.that,the expence of collecting bad state %1 that - aCcouitts of ••15;?,000,6001, of die the Revenue itiSecidtncl might at least be.redueed•to public remained' driati,!i wt.!. lie thought it of grt!ll. "ftitit . Which atf6iitiedtite colledion ot 'din Engianct. importance, that' tba accounts shotdd but 16'ly loves j 'she gross receipt of ihe Revenue of Great Britain, tigated as soon as possible, as it : thus sytentatically • tifir the 3eat;.entlipg .t.lke:frilt of.4o:nuary, 'Bog, was neglth:ted for aseriei‘tf.years the death •oi the ptriies .., r . tifintlitons. : the cjiari , i .., of tnanagement dpon . this principally concornea, iii , i a ,1116ty ,): C ; re'l'll' loll CCi litteMirblintetf 16'''''1":titi`,111..fti I. ' Wing A the rms . : , of might render their being 436 it:Actort;y tn:tcici.up, not 41:- - .1:24. pll.,!ptil:eiiel • :By bitch:Ring' this charge - to merely difficult litit.phy,i , :ally intro3:.ithle, '.Lie Lion. .41,PerEeti.i•vgi,ctiii . PliflOlNPltritt.Y...o .W.bititik 1 (a t. 1: had hot'iitit MO i ilter)tik(n•cd, . a dout4t in his own mind; the 'suni of 1,0;')I,93ol. ' • •• l'ito 4ce:Atiitsg.lt ti t :: f...ittWittztr; or die r' tat it eN.pett.litue . . •,.. of ti.c •...,:arcory3 tor the ia.,t ,iiirot years , ioiii lilt: sonoci, Might be sated to qie „, pilblic,in one year: 'lt st'iii's iy2ri,tificti by tl.ain; b 141,1 b.,(1)(...: t', f lotit,4.iitinguit,luog un:iCentintable, t 't hat* tr-e expel - ices of Colleaing the ti.o nulnbYs sinliii4c.i.fisthenistaiiiiilabroad.i.- • .11,41e.nue:indtVii441 iinimaity:'.Ll.Wlthe . year fiditv .. , ,Ddr...lio'sfiliiisopt •:-stt,h3, thef:tion.,Gentleinin ~had., -the 51.11 ors :faunal - I', tgo7;• it .as Vii, ..ss.' 2d. tier — b . y his former coat tit , excitet , surprise anti regret :: cent: '; the 4tit .of;t!anitary, i 811t3., , it va5 . :11' , ... 10s. )d i;t liii b:,,ot», Whii*Athis.e,resent statement fial t.iiled pu-t coot•tir. 6 ii t; * 4ll .'Ye ( te en l i"n the 5 . 1 . 1 2. 4 if Ja ""'irY. • to dissipate. 'file regret - Which be li id felt, did I Sol), it wai 41 ICs. ( . )c.I. per eclit. AN'lty. was this.? ~ ElClE,splittg ft 0111 htly apprehensions cue, tmos,:it - , hAkt ' Ai tile' Rev - thrik - iinttOisod'f fltoltates of Collenion Elena the il.ing,•roos eti4c-1 of ...PrillC-.121'..:5 hl.: t i t0it1 , ,,, -ought proportipozinlY• 'I ) 4l icoitiish. 11" is old tit in tin.iathed in killotwr plate as tinny had hi..., e1 ,. It h e dot he, late) Nilnigters the jattli7eiot • obieruin ', that`, ; : bad any substantial groands'for inii1.111:; such an a' tithing ille t r ' cliht h ltilmi ee'iii - utillie , rtli'-' itev""" \v a : ' sertivn, he should not hlve tiro:cll. - 2d the subjett -et ll&te:l •at , lowlerT. ra , d . ...- . . 'Since the year i 807, . v, , ,neye licc . h , l i but as a tram . Jitii of ii,, iittomils , of Aetten ` they quilted ()like, the charg,e for colleetiott 'the public, ht i ought to iw.veot.n ce , orword nod givco ' , bridltincreased 7s. fit-L per (lilt. inding .3 ditYer 6 Ote. /0a detail itt• a • (lisle s..sheri the H , a - tA3' cotild base.. 'of - nit; leN a banutilln . Q 05 . 452 1. 'p't "'min.. l'\ 4 tr',:ker t .. its ' valious -parts into their- consideration. t o die c o lleclinwot the Revenge' in Iri-lati-d,,,a recent ,13ut ,Ite S',lVlllect to.oollSidQr it his date to come for- # oiipbrotitity 'had 15 , en afforded the Eloose at •ASCer- ward on , helastnijoit of tit , 50,..,,k,0, Icy ithil.,:',l Slit:W . tittiiMg lOiv lit it was Carried , no. Tti, gross receifq " of saving . the Count6r' ii,069,0001. and .by cis:. • ad - the:etventle in - Iteliind - , `for the year - ending the serninating suchr an idea, excite discontent itl the stll of Jai!. 1809 was 5,55 1,6;;91. On this the' , Country by raising OW expeiialion :.o high, that . charge of management wait 13 0 less thAn 9 1 ., lib. Pee 1. it coati riot be satisued,• The. Han; Ge n rlenri n Ii iii . e ,..f l r. If ti , i3 were reduced to tile-tint:(eXetSgiVe as spoken as it lie would not lutve come forward, ,bad ! i't "t'Li") at which the 4 -1 -wePtle "r reirit Britain teas at ' he nut nee challenged ilia!' defied to prove the troth prc - ,...tit cf.2lected,, tiati;,:,y, 41. t . , - .:ts.,:gch per cent. an oft he - 31-, , ,, , ...r:i0tt lie Ivid ni;lde. ' Jr' was rather eXita.; i' , ltillazil saving. would ;:ecrueol .Q.B t„rid 91. ' BLit in • Ordinary that lie, . a . 12nart i .iin , of ,, th ii ,, taysti of l i t e i the rcsont ..year the ch.itrge oil 11.1.1 tuatLigemerit of putlii4, should not think it wont, Isis li.tunu to save; the Revelitte of had been increased to 't 11. • ; .... ...., I.e. k-oontiy"i't ,000,00t.)1; ap,ricallv :utile:is challenged i ty..se bd. per cein. An anntLil savititA, therciore, 111 to priiiv'eil..t. , 3 - settiOns lie bail til:i(l . l.e tter(S hot WithoUt 3fi3,5671: miglit , be vi-iirillici, if unit cl'iarf, o ww - a ' foundation. lierlitip4 th 641911 .- GetitOerriaii; Was afraid 1 . 'reduced only..tP tile- cllutge Itt PreSent ,-*=('"till4, in 1 Ile Shou'i - a not c(..nDe.in litne with 11 - ii.sl,ttesnents, it be 1 ~ , ~, Great - Britain, and that; this might be etfeded . he ' did ,tint seize the present oi , portnuity i r :ii, VariOUS ,t was pear46l3y. convinced. 'l:he charges on- the ma- , other stiteinenzi erpnlli inzeniens; and hr . (at..... , ,,1it for 1 . nagement of the Post-offic'e in I relaod. were also ex- i watt ! with.v. l u d i ecnifidt t i ce byltheir ,i..i . t t f f *c : tiv ai l .; 1 COSJis"tt, and lie..eauldnot 'pereeii. WIIY . 111 tv M were ig4t ' thors, ere iii. circulation. - lio-<Mr,. - kititsikision) not beassimilated to those ot Scotland. l '' '''''''" cif ; reniembered seeing a•book which coniained a plan I Scotland sere little more than - 12 per cent. On the ;,.„. „yi n ... I / ,:, .i;'•I , t) th e `s.ottn , 4Y n o' ieSs a SOW th:itt' 1 gross receipt, while-those.of Ireland amounted to 4ti ~ ,000,0001. antitiattY. - - I- le - wondered the. • lit,t). per cent: The Government .ExOresae l calO; which !_ til lemon bad nut enlarged , his , seheiiie, it was ea.illy were much More frequent than necessary, % (--;. .ould :if. * chino, He had said, : take off 400,0001. 7 here,. and fOrd . a subject fur tlie xxereise 'of economy. . The ' 5t. , 9,0•.0:. there, why he Might t i de lit :*.l.q Well hate .- next subject of expence to .which he should advert I ~ , said,. take off' 1,000,000 L; lt 10A11,1 not. be a 'tier,' ie:ts th.:t. 'attelidanton tlieComtnisaiotierc for auditing 1 t r a ii,... ult , ta ,,,k to e i mirtgo the itg intk , . an d to „ save onet Public Accounts, which_ npon'the average amounted i m .,...,,, as praoica bj e:.as to sat . t , titt , !3 , 1)3 ,,,,.. Th4 - iLioi annually to above 7 5 ,00'0!• it Vvas ifill:Ki 4 sible that ' Gentlermin had learned.th It tbe -national expe.nsidore- - these Commissioners could ever get through their i had increisest from 7 i,u00,000 in 7'),00 ),000 ~,tid tasks,' for he' understood, that owing to the iiccu- 1 ~, thence inferred, the I 1 ~000,000:rnight.' be saved. A mulation of , . unaudited accounts, they were V 5 i 1,,,,, h a d - b,,,,. rsts ,d , as wh i lt ,, , t n.,. „, '„ yar_ cont in t*s . , much .behiud hand :as they were three years :ago.- 1 out, ~„,n t0. ..,0) , , mo s t. .Nrioilier go. expellee was ''.. Besides ; , this was :i doty.which it was on I : incurred .b.i. , paying a t 1 lit -•II) die East , litdia Coin.: the 1-I ° ll 'e of Ciailrn°°' I h e thselve' to fitifil/ by an - 1 plity., kie did not styli/pie he. rtir'ild tove saved ikist: .' pOiniing Cortunitteei lot- the pttrpoe. They tni E ;lit Ilh e j ocras ,,,,l expell , ei o f our. N avy ,„6 ro(iunie d ; ,,,: a tlitol - sue ;1b.,. i) , :01)ii. , , , 76,6()01, a y,}rn.,, and ;tvoi,l' tip::: 1 m iin oo mit i., 3 L A II . . I';`, t t i ., a hc. , 1 , 11 - 00 , / ,, t , 0 , 1( gl'6lily ~ stiitu of t`,'‘ . il the „CL' il u t lY , 1) " . '"‘I"sc 11 "'Y 11 '''IL . I • the-es:pence's of the iN.T.ssy weie . :;it!r4.% , ,5 ,. 1„,h0Wgt,*...J:iy selves 11 ',Slected . to 'i"stgi'''.'' ills. Irll ' l "i''''' il' in ; the piieez,of hemp, pitt:lt y tat, '. - .ltit - 1 :,::: naval 4i.L`CS 4 • ' h 41il, ;`• l'i . ;c;ri ii:'' wAio . i• 9f ili4"eit'&29ieliii:...,2;::-., , , t lift& 1 4,6' tit fig ..• they kr ' i . ./ '.. y. cus . c., ley woo ,• not e ,it totis 0 judge ,of the ; opuse of lt6lt en increased expendifi i ore; though when a Gentl..,man came fart,'. - arct aria rourictly stated, the eXtlCll(liftiri! 1;(1J risen. front i r 71,020,900 to 76,0 00,0001. it intlit ;:t, fit'st•vtcne , urprise. In every part he could slieW reasons ccjitally cogent to account. for such do increaoc, but hr ilroo.!lit ihe should not Wiell. occupy the; ottention of the `Howse - by. giVing.a set of counter statements' (and 'nothing else could he:give.) It was true HMI., artnv were reduced, the sum vo:ed for their supp ort wou ld certainly, be smaller.'lf our cavalry wore reduced !from 1.48,000 to 4 5,060 siimeiliing might certainly be savedto the country. • But it should first be ascer iainedthat our, army is ioo large, Soon' a deo:it - tore Il'otn an established system as this r i neition . itiVo'it.cd in it, ought n ot to baye been Lirot.tht up 'On the last` night of the Sess:oo. 4giiinst suet) a procedufc'he felt it his ditty to eiltor,,lti.s pretest. Adverlingto , v1;It the - Honorrable Gentleman , foil 5340 , with res pect to the foreign Oros, he' did not think they de served to be spoken of as he had sOoken of them; he justified the policy and propriety of taking ioeinx into our servite, and thought, th at i nstea d of having reposed too much confid,,nce in. diet - 9, they had, been too oflen the obje•-.15 et suspicion and rtifstruit.' ,i-le would liot waste pine in fellowing ,the H ot i. G en• tlethan through all his details, but as in line in stance he thought he bad intie a Mistake, he telt it, his duty to clear it .up. The Commissariat of Ire land he had stilted cost the , country 9.5;0°01. a year. 'The impression made on the House by such an assertion was . that it was 'enormous, But he could stale, that, .:including. eet..ry 'thins, ,it did nut cost the Nation .marct shful ' !,:f, ' ,o C/P l .‘ He could guess what h ~1 lei the I - I.n. Chntlemoti into this mistake : he had united witil it ilt , .. corps of svaggoners, but that was not underst , al liy the i I Jose when he made Om assertion. That corOs iorfering tram toy in k;ngiaod, it was lie..e , ,sary, should! be sUppite.l . a 4 if ii was tt.'ip...illy it► the. field. In the'saate in iinner . he 11rid been irosiaiien with I`4^. Sped to toe chiaths sew to the Spinisl),l'ati.ots. ' The /Johoutable Gentleirnut hod s, 1)14...n at l i mes on tlitilicreasJ e of enilitinv expenthi tic it) 180$ , z*.tict . 9. It was necessary to stgte, , that on army when ..011rOad oitt ? t be it greiii , :..i expenee to OF , iuni,,o than wi , ett at'lloinc.' Alurcover it was to I.:L. rein... , lnher e d it liad'beeti' greatly augmented in those yea..i. Ile did tiot vish to t.if;ti font iliOii'Vlitiiiiktri t (i H . he Initi p , , r.iiseo, airy portion of nicredit for econon) On ceo., noiny he wit :Wit the piesentodoUld not emohlio);'hut it was worthy of remark; that that il.:ltoinistralion Wished to atigaient the peritapent forte of the Conti, try, and' it wias not to be expecled that that object could be accomplished without expense. Untlcr these circonistances seiicltassertions ought not to lie made, as liowever they might inflame the ignorata, be though; thein unworthy the coosiiieration of that flottSc, turd tuiwortiry the Hon. Gentlemian who brought. them forward. 'He had given an inconsiderate pledge, (not' frOM a bad unitive), which it him to bringfor". Wald these coruolainhu that those tint of doors might consider his assertion as Iming f , ,nne foundation ; he, ho . 4 ever did not think the way he took would an,- swer his purpose. I-Ie had complained Of the expellees of the Post-orrice being double since the time of Mr, Pairocr ; whip it I,v:of considered th at new D u st_ ()dices 111 , 1 been established,wherever the intereas of ' the country might require .titem • (sayitoipia lona of the 'hew' taxe , ), that increase of expense, could ex . ite no surprise. 'Anoi her ca'clintstanCe which lie ~1 11, ,,,kr „ ,1 35 it mu-s g‘,,1;.; /Ig - abuse was, (bat the In spi,taors of .iii Costoins hitil betut increased from seven to tali; he was certain Ow greatest care had ever been taken 16 guard against an litinecosary ad dition to• that estaOliShinent.. With toyed to (lie exp....nee attenditi4 stamps, artiouitting• to ii-oneoi. he wooL:ere:i lie Jul not tiiii.:iert,i.,!o Ifl SAVc,; the 0, 11'41e. It tvasncce:isity that s.!:iioiii :diould be diior.litited in overy vita of the „Kati..ioitr, anti, t o d o I nar cw'ithrult itXpni),CC ►,‘'..t.; impwisitAel NVOOI they. intended reducing the .ntlowariqe to the dis trihwors, no ont: w o uld ke eo his place, and ;he • older was ohtiged to be reluefantly recalled..„ Be• CV . iVerS of taxes till the yeir before last wete allowed sihi. in ihe pound, but sieve that 11.1 s been rqducA44l to duet.; halfpence, 'rite b.ilance. pt donal. : left in their bands, lit tllaitlSAitiCd, Was tieCCSSary to answer' alioaleotaihis iita,..e on Ilt•tti, "11te.. , ,titole- of the oercctit. ; ;;t• 4onount,:4 to z.2,N00,0001e-- i r Imy' 90 4 14 II) v o il,il v r, what kt a, done for the sums received.--r The Inspetims• of. Customs !pot only co . ,le,qed . the roevio.., oi.tt re dined other services to Ow i,..10b.. liJ., .As to Scotland, ii could hardly .b.!!. "es.pk. : .-,ted that the t,lni.-,s ci, , uld he collected in a ck,u , try ILitl. . ly inlizihited, :is ,tbey sse76 in piglatiii. 'The sum paid for coihotil..g could not be , regol:itt ; :ti': by trier amount of the stun collected, but by the labour and. ditlicolty .attending . the collecting. In Senitio.-1 :ii iwas , :necessary to allow 41. 1f..)... 9d. per cent. 'rho noti. Gentleman, in his usual-arbitr a ry manner, at onee'asserted it tnight 'be reduced to three. Why did be-not say to two? Since tho last t linistcrs were in most, it had been_fotindinecessary to increase the salaries of a nninber 'of Oilicer3, in all aniohntiog to at hondied and fory ttiotiAnd pounds per ann.— When fees weird abol!Shed: it .I..2oitte neeeNsary to ruse t h e salartesof.ll l ,3,,, e - cliff hAt:i'lytt,7'vinn:.ly laid en their fees. While speaking Of the auditors of public obconnti, heliad ..it o:nee been guilty' or the in consistency if pr.tishig thole. who pi.d . cc.A. tuein °nth; iit . 64trit expetisive cs,izthiishrnent, mid proposing to do . them away altogether, 'rhe lien. Gentleman pro- seeded to vindicate the - bounties granted by Govern went. , The Ishlnd or (4poßieton- liAl never con. iributed to the revstine of Pplice a million anntoilly 4 , The actoUnt'S'idiould' be exa Mined as soon as possible, and therefore'the Anclitotaiwere increased. Fre'ae.: prOeated the condutt o f the Hon G'entletnanin set tins, sech rufnotirs afloat, kpOWII% 14 119 did', what paths would be taken to circulate among the i 6,111 07. rant, 34St'lli014 Coen desiitute el continuo sense; itr every civilotod.country, this taxes . were greater in 'propertiou. than.' in_ this. .In , Fri t no o li g h t as •th e :i r taXtl aPpe3ted," tile) Were gietier, compared h' the. means of - the 'persons wrio. wer e to p a y the than in England'. - Ilieto, 11 3 in:ln- :i1, 1 '6 un fortunate, a soldier was qoptered op Mai, 'who fived on his property and detoroyed hi; conitorts. ~,vlao r. ,t i _Mafklt - ,no who hid rashly ii - o.'.uirted th3it.4lo-11);'rd of the expztzetis of the Navy might be .S.' , lV'eti, ,h 4 ,1 got provt24. Ow trot)) of that asst tion stint,';] . in I . ),'%vd„ . Atter further coritroyerting the fitatenlot* of the, . lionour.itiltscientlen)ttn i and t.ettilAritia his - ("ilnd Itft - -- itt . ot.',lti.to-- such assertions, - rash ntli.l tolonilthlLl as • • t i.. . t hey were in fatl: - be conclotted an abic and. arfut.