The Sun. — London, England, 1809-06-10 00:00:00

H.alfic. ()I Comnions could proceed to the pissing of . • t Bill tt ith 5111.;11 which providedincrem- • riitv for offences, not even coming within the know- ledge of thellOuse. . The CHANCEtkcitt of the Lx ,denied that it could bsrflArobjed of his Right Hooothab:e Friend to sanction fraud and•corruption tci CUt do‘i'n bpse reventles.,.,nt, the•head of which hewas plated. efeJla be no itbernative between the di. , ,;! • charge of every single otlicerpt present in the rev°. • noe, and the aJoolitl, of, this, measure. The former part of %this alternative could hot .be entered into' without the greatest irwooveoielice, and therefore be,should give his' assent to the extension of.. this' protection. Mr. • Calera ft, Mr. 'Marryatt, Mr. Hutchinson, Mr.°, Babington, and M.r.. Windham spoke- agains the insertion of this clattie.. • °. .Mr,CROKEII defended it, not noon the grOund of screening coreuption, 'brit tinder the assniance that it would strongly operate as a preventive of .fu ture 'frauds.' • „ The•gallery being cleared,' the Hoirse came to a division upon the insertion of the Cruse-- M es - - Noes 47 Majority against the Clause - - Mr. 13.tattAm witladre%tr Ins.molion respeCling the „distressed stair of the Wes! India Colonies, in con sequence of 'the . depreciation of produce in that • , qbarter. Wtirre'RE kb gave rotice, of his intention; in the next Si- s•ioo, to move . for a,,"reiorn of the' ap .pOintroent of the Ordnanee Keeper in Hyde •Park,- • With a view to his removal, it that appointment should not'he found satisfaelOry. Tit, DETO INDIA Mr. PatNneits'AsT observed u, on what had been said •by anHotiotdable Gentleman or; a former night-, as to the facility with which he would refrite his (Mr. Prenderost's) asseriions,,as, being friVolous and erroneous.. He (Mr. Prendergast) said, that now from docuthents he was prepared to prove the &reel. contrary of the lionontaLle Gentleman's ithi nuations. As on the eiening of his 'notice he. had entered fuller "on the subject, he . shoold not new trouble the House farthe'r than by an application of his statements to the. faCts. • 'the memorial which the Honourable Geotlettran (Mr. Grain) on a for mer everting' alluded to, he had. never seen but froM the 'advertisements at different periods, with regard to .thc, amount of (Online OW import and export trefght to He. did poss e ss documents" s'titildent to support the statements he .bad already r inad:!. The great giound'Of ,complaint • made by the Muichants in Ihdia,againm:the Direc t rs, was the application of the extra ships in die trade, to destinitions fertle, from the purpose of the Act by which they Were appointed. Even those dismantled Ships w(,iCh Were forced - tyan them were .not forthcoming, and u:'der the circumstance of thris having spare tonnage on their hands, they loailed.on the ret.iar shipS, Without specific'agree mem,' but under the c'e , lieeption' that the freight should be the srine as promulgated by the advet,use rottills•ot,' the tAiertlit 'seasons. " ll,er Lad' before ap plied to this coi.durt the leani` of injustice and 'op pression tothese 'he w Ladd now add fraud, cum _ mitred under the' Co . ( timi . tanee 'of possysing power . to carry their etleil. The 'Hon. Gentle. two here th, dilYttrein from' to I 407', mid as.. rtt'd that 'in .India twble the ittTioUllt .bait been taliell of the prices° charged in London. The documents which 116 thus stated from he tho ,, ght necessary to fefer,to f',r . the • porposb rclivang, himself, from the imputation of enoncous statement - on a forme'r eVening:. An HOU: Gentleman had, been pleastAl to tkay i Ahat Olt this'oecasion • 1.11/just • be would now retort that' preSSii:rt en the Hun. Gaitleinart, who, without suttleit;nt information on the Sllbi6o,' so incautiously hazarded that opinion. Under thts eXplahation he'sito"tild move, " that the eopyofeClt'ioorial of thVeliutl 'of DiretAurs for East India Athol44. to the Lords of tlre"TreaAtry, dated ad May, 171)7; together rwAili•tht four Appendixes accompany lag that document, presented before the House .on the Juno, !kir, he printed." Mr. poNnAs was Surorized that thelioli . . Gen tleman, understanding as lie did that no opposicion wa4 intendedto his motion, went at sucheonsidera „ble length into' it. Without deciding whether the system enacted' in i 703 was 'the * hest that could have been adopted, he Conti:it..led 'that' the ,doeu tneots at present called fur would not he•sufficient • to enable Parliament to decide on the question. It /mist be Laken in all the bearings in which. it could •affe& the 4ommerciul interests of the Country. As 'it was impo ssible-that the: discialsion could take . 'place in the preieht Session,•he thought it bard that . the condoa of a respe6table body ol,meti, such as the Directors of the East India Company," should he so severely cetiured, .at ti time when they could not h ave , t h e o pportunity of irvinicdi!itely defending' titeruselv,e; by the neeegsary dr.entn,-nts, which were so voluminous , that they , could not be produced in „ the pre.s6ot bessAin. ' Mr. Wm.hts contended, that after the .ekphina 'hot) which had • been given of the•conduet of the Direetors of the East' India Company by the Chair man,' on a recent evening,' the intereoce of the It in. • Gentleman; that the Last India Uompany had been 'guilty of injustice and oppression must appear to be. wholly uritotiodcd., • . Mr. GIIA,NIT observed, that a Committee wasJhen ' ,Til i ng on 'the subject, the consideration' of which had iormed the 'prifiCipal part - Of the tronoura.ble Uentlerrian's speech. repeated, at "Constdera-• ble "ktigtti, his former statements In:defence of the conduct .'of the Company on the oecasion al- Inied•to.. • • Mr, tiotwoßTll also . defended the condo& and, chargter ot the Directors of the East India Coin, •par,y C'ttit.t s:ttrie ,time lug took occasion to ob= ' h erve, oft a tlenrint! of ooti,oool..that had been re-_ eenaylain on the T'able by the East India Company, although it was I:nown, that pn the pornent of a million 'and - hve hundred thousand 'pounds, .the, Chairman of -thd . Coat - of Diretlors hart -declared;;; that the account- w ith. the , as . Public w closed •- • • A1t .,, ,-.Putiiugs:observed, that the account alluded to whit. }in accpiAtao,l3 retYt, which could not there fore l?e,easily cloud. •They. bad not been .finally (7(4),tiLvtvceof irdelAy 'that :had taken ii.;: of the regimental ,so- ~. f~~ tint+ 141P,i) j6( .." l „ tliti ;,; !,, lc liAgo II AIRI S, of No, 4, 11 , 1:trtlett,cP I rt, Bow street ; and Pviblisbell by 14 4 1 41. C; scizipps. Sciuthftlottivistrett. (;g4svettest 4 9 l2: :. i‘z, 'Nu, 1I 9; Strand, berc :,,icit.vrilionents ) Orders for the Paper, Leticts for Rho P1414:9-, .6ig G 0161,411aii)-,, T i t trillbt addil;sed: . • : , • t . . . his After -El few -observations from Sir. H: Menlo: - en a late _occasion.' This of - reticle was bv tbe Bel see. t leman wished-to aMeee thetiouse by. conce"'• ~ . s . . mere, Mr. p..l.lciore, Mr: Wallia,•end Mr:Prender- is. aired U ) - be: a..breach. of the PriVile•geeof - Parlrament, or show Pia coesinsild over the Etielish lanetoge lie , . . gait, the citation essas'eereed to e, tis MiCre also the : mid a Yiolatem of tire Common Law ; and ther e - might have socCeeded to theextetitof his Alk' l l , e'' , motions fur the other Papers. , , . fore if the Bill' was rejeeted on account Of some of bin if it eels his intention to answer the arguinttio.i; Mr. YrettiCertokse then moved, for tecopy of the ,•the clauses net meeting the approbation of Hole winch had been,{ forward on the opposite tiadsi oat le taken by the pireabrs of th e e East India ; Members, it- would be to abandon the great princi- t sick of the queatibe, .Ite tuu;t excuse bine, but .he Company, the Bye-leers' restricting the Pircetors :ple of the Constitution, 'And consign Ministers here. was too ditil to perceive that .he had effected 1, " 9 rut from Private Trade, &es. , i atter to imputilik.; . It the Bill lik e repealed the Cntn- prise. " The Foes:see! enattmetits, in his opinion.. A di•ictission .ensued, in which .Mr. Grant, . Mr. mutt Lpi..., then ' it woilid have been vieidus ;' bet, on ' cornpletedv changed the nature `of the hqi. Fitt pandas, Sir J. Anstrother, Mr. P. l\loorse the the tentrarys it confirmed the law, and added to its wotild give a.. efitlerent account 'of Ilie til'igin utlt 1 g Chancellor of the 'Exchequer ; and Alt-. Pensonby I force... It was true, that by, the present clause Mini- that given by the Isieht Hon, Gentleman. - When. • participated ;' 'the-. first motidft Was withdrawn, as stern would not be rsttlejea to the edditionah penialiae the Bill for prevent itig abuses in the vile of Officoc , forming.a part ol an Ad'of Parliameoteand the Hon. for implied contrails, but they were left sr i b k jeto'was passim thre Etugh the .u%e, his Noble Filend 'Gentleman did not persist an requiring the other mo- . the common law;and rendered, ti ,, the rcco;nition (Lord. Folkstotte) intended , proprising • a 'CLI.!I- 5 • tiOns to be, pill. ' • of principle liable to impeaChment and 1-einovai.-- i w'oich would ,I,:iave for its object: •the prevelidiart of - Mr.detercreaom presented a copy of the warrant Suppose it were true, as contended by'solue Hon. ttafflaciti (Pi sears , oat eli in Parliamentat:petiotfhiit • appointing.Commest . .•. .. i onera to - eate.toto consideration Gentlemen, 1 hat , .mtilley purchasing'` being by this Hon. Friend (Mr. Curwen) gave noocent his n ! . the administration of justice in Scotian* Bill excluded from, the market, seats were otTered to . ,teittyArnoteror t 6 tharetrea, and , tire dame vois nit . SEA'rS IN 'PARUANIENT BILL. j 'Ministers, and they agrced'eo gi‘e Offices for them.' ,proposed. Wileflo:i. Gentleman then 'adverrei !(-•'• • On the motion of Mr. Ctittn•ee, that the report The crime mnst be notorious, from the ' circum,- tbe eleitee 1,1:,:fiqr...-L1 against lard Calt . iiercailli mini of the. Seats io'Parliament Bill be taken ieto futtlier . stances atteridiog it, and pnnislnneet must COtiSC' censured the cOndo Noun', et of th Noun', as s , s'res•iiingsan-, consideratioc. quently follow He would therek'esa vote for the, ackttowledged '' . /.leliiritrettti• l Tip: 1L.,0 . Grit!, 11: 1 (t . ' . , • . Mr. JOHNSON stated his intention to offer his opt- , Bill as an acquisition. and 'recoettition of the Con ti- ' spoken otehe, jeopardy in which Nlinisters steod(al he' - flied on the Bill, upon the motion that it 'be en- , anion. It did not repeal or Weaken the common ver) - 'otten 40 netwithatentheg which . he helieveds grossed. • ' law, which was at thifetnentent pra6lically repealed; '} hinewell coins at to be onedt theiroutnher, Ile thotr;ht: • s . ' Tae report was then taken into further considera- i but, on the corttrary , strengthened and. renewed it. theavord " e x press" ought not to nu be used. No coinse 'times:in/ton the rnation of the Chanceller of the 4.- By it the practice which" had -Lassen tolerated weold: °entree or- si jurr e oneheir oath; _wrield', without 50n.... 'chequer, the Big was re- co m mitted as far as related to• . be rendered infamous;', and even . if 'no,petralee e was •sfart.al,e.ve - leitee pt. the existence of a cr,nt:.,,4, fwd . . nest ,- • .'• • the clause. - , annexed to , trAnSgl'eSSlO:),' this alone wo - iill - checi; ; any oethe'tratisae t tioes alluied ii) by the id.iit E"n. ~. P i , In the Committee, the CRANCItLtaft of the Exe ' and .controul Ilinisterit. He; tinil4ht the Pre;cnt Gentleman as cos-rting within - th'e por t iew (~t toj Oneo.nee proposed an. emeudtileur, by which the clause ought to be negatived itS- detriatent;d to the Statue. A Lt , .arneti (ientl,4ll,in hid slat;' , !, tNg it ). penalty for making a gift of promise is order to on- ; Bill, but the Bill itsttrt, and the•principle on Which ! cotieseseentee of- the omission of the 'word " c.nre" ' lain a retina) td Parliament, was fixed at 1000), (be• ; iteireceeded, should have his wertneStenpneet. their table on the next genera't eiodion i wo uld iii) sides' the original 5001.). .. „ , , , intl the Pers° ll so . Making a ' All% C,INN ING agreed wMa ehe Honourable G ees I covered with ite . titinna. He thoele the Le.;TA gift•or promise, was rendered incapable of sitting : tieman in Ihe joTOria:ice o'f this Bill to the; public ; , G :( =nil° lll4l ' i'culd li•ivc r. 6 st'd ifluJi 111 ‘)''''''''''! iit Parlittn-nt for' the County, City, ,Bernugh, &c• brit ilearettitig its general' merits, p o ocular details . mous argurent on :ho other silsk , of the quo•i- , " , I After, some further retnerks a he (Me. Wlti'br i) for which lie was in this tunimerteturned. lnid h it. .:11 iniport.incj atlaithed to Liwin which they After some rentlrlis froni Mr. Rant:es; Mr. Pon- did not deserve. ' .he attention of tl, , 1-i buse„ho : (1 6"" . l ed the•ChiPtc-40',Vfethe F•eeneriner I '.." l l 4 '''' I sonby, the Chancellor of the . Excheqser, and the le'ett' do eiL:cd att•Parts of ntioor conss•ettence, even ! stitte , d to endeavoni- to retake the -I.li;i ai etle,st,t,o , titi . posiihle, •How•had ta t ~'a Preens,- ? Ft"( Solicitor General, the amintdment was agreed te. in I he'colirs.• of the debite or' Unit night. If .the - • The House being•resumed, the Report was re- re traced the origin of 01011111, lie beheved it would : . by taking the.rrath away which he (Mr. Vsiltineeel) , Ceived. . . he. found, that 'it was prinipally direded by use i fltou,, , ht as props:rent:l necessary In b , .: take., by lii Mr. BAN KEs then, proposed, as an a rnen(l ' n ' ill 16 lionotrable I..;.,..leritait againsi.tp he.ratliee of pmt'- i --'!ec'ted,c :; .'s '.bY.•l4 0 leaur; and next addint: tit's' w °3l te• the amendment eereed tre - in ' the,Coo,lllliL c t ,', That , t ...tipias a seat in ;nal HOuse for a . sum Of steel{'} c " eX!:t y. corruption in c 1 . 1. ci ~' he screened , . (1 1 At' ; instead of the fine of 10001. and the inci,J;ihilily to , Subseqnctitly eit nbiet of Minor imPoilance aro:e . b d'-'!.. 1 ..,... 1 ) on the oil' of (-3- s mertntni• it:: did not sit for the place for which they 'sire r5t....e...1., the,' teett e aa ~ e e „ w tee teem 11„.. „,,,i,-....i„ ~,i to teem t 0,... suppose Joey would admit the .c:olora%'.l betwe9). 'person so tinikiog•a gilt er promi , e, should be thcla- app l y , 1 nelea l y se e h e di snoe e o f et e ess ss ei„, s i m i, c LJI:0 C.v..;;.- , eag.ll,,, r iml .. Nr. it,di , , 1g .....c , yto, - ,irii . S.' red ,ineapable of sitting in that Parlitenent. • t lir vie.,ay. It bud I)..ensritocl oil inithorifv -st'' , f ar pdater t ei ern the Treasta4 . .1e. , 1 1 710. 'lee did eel doubt lett . ~0 pen this the' House divided::-•- . , • •ir . " ' I „.;,„ t o o t h! ready s ! ', than his that it mi , Yht be wise to a 1 0 ;,:r tlie.prit.ei- , i:nti.' 11the si.rideits v woikld 11,-;ce .... , , , t.... ,,,,, , For the Original A m . :fi d dle/It a t h e Ch in . orate Ex, 74 ~ 1 ,. ple of the Bill with resped te the Deist's most pasti- , I ' l - IWO' 0 tite , 'ec44er.''''i s ite atm:bd . :mut seßa )I 'n't; ; `For Nlir. 133 t ikes.'i Ant:l4llE4'4n 4, - - . • d Govserument'eNclusively to purclia,eseitta, tended t 4 • '- 49 cularly ribder Consideration itrt he fi•;',l. kilaqiiilee, i ati • e •;, NT3)ority - - - - - - - - -.- -25 ;" , that it rni e eht afterwards he iy. , telidc.ci. . The e llouse ~ f',.‘ l ,'! tile'n "I ' •;,..e.e, , eeig 111.1 e 1 in. , . 'Some:verbal aniendments were then made anu . '-• .be thepelit would do its duty. In .meking a Nov:- i • . Y •el-- . •ei c Lite ~, er . _ dt: ,.: agreed to, , ' i • , tn 3 •• . l ose , thereoppose the'Bill aitogother {hail eiliS ~.1(,11 ti . SIOII ageinst a corrupt disposal of Offi'ees to pies .._ 4 _ .. lot lib` . Upon reading the clause originally proposed by the : seats in Parliameot ; but they oeght . to, be careful t I "s'Pn•en,the PePPlesebtftathepeaple wooto I e Creincellor pf the Estchequer, for imposing a penal- . •.-'' . , which , the , tv„, . c, , i b ; , ne t 1 ‘ ) , ..1t ),,, i i - l ci ot r r t.. ! . : , not to involve in the same .' pro;•isien trausettions . t defu"le- 4 ' l in I''' 6 t , as they could not but see - ° rendlt#3 ty ou pea son, transferring services for seats (fully de- - I• , • i ~ I • 1 • 1 their rerresentation worse than ever,,,eel Bight 4,!.t.,' . . • w men were tnnocent, in t ternr ivet , , ain t i ists spreat. s, t bated on Tuesday), , . . Lord Mt uro x ehjeCted to the insertion of., the'!" a snare for those who were actuated by . 1 loo! best ma- . i pourable Oent lemitn'hini almost' foi got liiinielf ! s o ty , word "expres e " aod stated that. if it• was persisted tities.. He dia'not think the ingertion of the word .! 0 - 540 .."Y , et ' 1 because a Bill was about to be bredgat ri '•() I ~ , e _ that : Lord Casleredgh was not : puni.latm . " - enre , ." could so Pir vitilie the prticip;e of the in 'hewould more that the clause should be omitted :7 altogether. . , Bill, 'as ' lb . giV'e i . ts' . form ' cr ' •ktipp'Ortels eanse to 'lnt:n .l , C . fit tittliaini • . , was preposterous F soch a reaseen ,ere.- -- '' - stems{ it were it nO in3ericd, 'Government, in taw 1 - . . ~ . - , . :.. .. ‘ ..._ g r ad l'he CHANCZ:LT,OR: of the ENCVEQUER •elpreased •; •,., e' ~ '- e s . L • - • s e. . ~ea 1 , , puttiShetentein 3 elliprit 1;c Lelieverseelrt".7' ~ , early alio oroinary olstrioution of of It w..L.,, ..14..„ . , , . ... . . , , S t "? CO the 1a1..'.01 iteats in Parliament ; but that t . i a his deei.4.•d opinion that withput this wet...1114e clause ( .. e. . Ihe felorieetr , aele Gerrie:matt s•-ritCrtl e ded s , (1 ,,`,•'• 44 , 1 i1 wonld I.c .tortaitrous,- and that every Member in en.. ; 1 . , • ,- , . )laccel in a state *of' jeopardy.: ' Ac.......r.1n0, to thc: '. 1 i 4it.iites w ,: ; 1 ---, . „ ..,. , ~, 5 107, !; ..9 be Ins- linteftt 0:i it ;s a c woro --r L principle laid down, as toat on una,,, 4,;,,„ (1 „,1 , „ , . , sun)* .Pat who bad wi th in the.preceding Si- • .. , • ~,, c, ! ~. , r , shoulti , Proceco, it would IC Ilt t...1. IU. .N ,_ . . , „ .. vett years cbt anted a situatiOtl_tOr A friend, Ai:oniony ... . ' sees L s' s. see ,in . explanation coil; es!. , ' Itl• *'t • bst i'• - •stowee' an emee on • majesty 4 . ints ets, eoe he hes, , . . a its omission be ,subjeCted to the. loss of his .seat, a . . 1 ••I t rir . ..--ti , d, on city cline , e. brnivia ti , ....'.44 I I - • ' V • .It . '' Who is there ti '1 1- ' " P ' 4 . L - ' ' L, , , :a .. , _ • - Any 'IMO tIC Lin , to a , ,c iitnsc sou eras tairly.and honourably obtained. . • : • • ; Loyd Qaitklegtr. bgc..oso• the.. eoutre.a --1)..41 .I;t4it. . • ''': remote to tic -- -, titi ►deternlint...o.ly = hi n i.de-...v•it I. ... ,,,n c: . trial ~ , . _ __... , . . , 1 ~. t ~ .. r. erica{ its:: eft t<;. 1 Heir stating i i., , w... .• Loyd PoIiCCIP.SI7.g Oppniied OW insertion of 1114' ~, whorl alld :Alp:halt ia iinpoi,,ibic any relation at cciit. " , 311 agilliSiiioll tlot the imam iclinn was nut jostitied.• word in the ,clause; and cootended, that it would .: scales can oxiat-who by his dfreci opposition, nor. • git:e the exclusive right sof purchasing seats •to the he incieles Mr. LITTLItToN tlroti . gli.t Abe : hilt, as -.origirragy„ only to my a rsenal , interests, but to t pe , , ),.0,1,1i. ~ 1 1 i.,.vl to e ~,e.,t .0,0,1 e vc town t , Treisury, and that if the word " implied" was added, • vet ' - • • , -`rod,., • ),„ If naye ever p rof s 'sets , ,Is w•t , , to it could by no Jury or Committee of die, House be s' • d e'•o ‘ . so hostile to me, Pr/ti eVtl) „ wit so far - altered in aube :tees! lie could no If->V•••• irCil 3.--W, 0 1,, ,rest_ . • nos , .. . , construed so as lb injure th e innocent. •ro triet e 6rs e 11 . stapper s t. s ~,, ' , - '•. , • ' .• ~ " . ' one connected )Nith v i e, Itlat I t%in 'r ic h P I • .1i H: . i -d• ed a. l , The SoeterroteGENtUAL ingueti in favour of the g ive lain% an °dice. under me ?" It. thew would beumbers over' ! sae otist.t len , tti r, at KIN. {fien , , . . &Attest) its originally framed ; pointed out the diffe- .on such a ehis , stick a `person be In to vote ilgain.it tot tli4 w 9 t‘i "ex pre...s" . - - '- 47' itisinst it '.: ' - - - -; . , . 74 . ' " rence between Money end office in corrupt praetices, Mioisters, as in consequence of going into,otlice lle ' • fitilmitti "- - - ..„ 7 . —:.....; - . • . . , • . anaosserted„ front the experieuce he Itatree similar must riot b e Seen to exthatige a still with 'he 1 •,. Upon string-ere bell e , te-elleittedinti;the63llsri e rt matters, that if the clause was passed without the Chancellor of the ENl:lletitiCr, Or ail) . ().1 li't !SLl . .i''Aly 8 W(.1101.111tI Mx, Witt CaItEAD on 111., lees opped":; I'• - guard of th e word " exPres*" it ,would have 111 °'"` , " Ministera, or to vote with leove.rnment out ally 00:0- a . :‘ , /1i. ,„ (53t the e e l he etieeese:a. . . k- , ' fed of precluding a Member of Parliament friendly . . s i re n 'whatever. It would then' fie necess.rry tor his ts ' Mr W. SZ,ILTH Spoke on :he lam(' ale. i • to Gpvernment froineasking a rayon% for arty person 7 Majesty's Ministers to resort to a sort of catechiser's . . ' Mr. \V.-721°Am - gave eotice, `{ciao on te ka s: -ti .-' d . in the, place for . which he was returned; or if hedid . wheneverean application was ' ma& for en aPllnint' readirrg.:he , tillable' proposc t..'.';) Chat,es.: .. . so, of ousting hint from his place. He then point- wilt. He wenhi suefroe f°r i'llit"ce l''''' fi ," ll ' 1 . A- coniers3tion leen eti,-...0..;.!,. %vivo her tho 14 '" (''' ed out. in Ntrung, • tcrms.the increase of litigation that : Friend the Dslerttber: for'York seethe. I II . recommene ;In shoehl sigoirs divide on . tile Bill this night, 0* I ' l ' • 1 would ensue it the word was left out.; the unplea. -: •. i• inl e t t o r An ) ..• Fs srfi te entirely the cir- s's a d ~. , i 4 ~ In(111 , • orally o levee i• ref, at i ► cant situation ill sit hich it would place every Eleelien , . e f : the ••t•t••r'' 0 S 'S ed of the leeal - taking' CtlniStane. cif 1),41 ) ii i .. 106 I, I L ~ Lore Milton and A•I ' rs Poaseerty were tor i ` i , Committee-of the Reese ; and the dangerous verse ' 'knowledge, itifluence, Ike. necessary to qualify hiM tee s ... tns of I f i.. 4 , . . ,e ous,:tuis in..9.t. Mr. I). Gviki;s : • •• quences it wonld have, not oft Government,. bot on ' for the Situation, it would be in the first l'hice KO - • Nir. Wilson, 'end the - Climic.l;or of the Exel'cq ur , the Members of the Hoeate by , exposing them to , per to ask-Q. Did he ever vote for ybki ?A. N0:-,- ' lit'utleti that an undie'Sts • . • • 1 at, 1 1 i•h• • eliding • I:3 I taken p AL ittfirent:olaud actessationa which, if ever so nolo- • Q. D . Ihe -.• t influence to procure, votus : '•• , . , 1.., neve r eater • his {.,'ere shiaeld be no Maher division. , „ calf, .it oyes iinoossble for them to reltut. • I eions ' for you ? 21.• No.--;0,. "Dice any ,of his,•ee .. . i Tlh! fluese; howovcr diVitlet.l on the 'inotiatl, ‘'''''" . Sir k. litsupeeT thought *the Bill.,nugatery in it 'A. ta.-a. Dirl any person beans! to him tar blebef, t! ' le number., r ,,............ aelf, and that the claose now' under conaideration ' conneded with him by inarriiigse by interest, or by ' tee . it ''''',',•• ..• ?.I I would have the died of giving additional-int - teepee • . . • '.1.• .1 ' } lo in, C ove r r enter you such 'a • • any culler tie re. .ttee to 1. Against it • - - 3i , : to Governmeet.-lie contended that the corn:gallon . N,Lijority .. , - St Service ? A... No.-These q IL: etions being answered, arising from the transfer of otlicea for seats . .Wai- 4C". it would . then , "be tiecess:ny to inquire-Q. Bei On our return into the aailsty w t e found the s . • much more iniseltievoes to the public interest th an e • .. have you lately Voted ag2iust our mata3ures ? that toreey. Gana to. et e . et s e er - o f the P ., ,1r that' of purchasing seats . w ith . .tnoney. ,Patriolic •, qoeirion being answered in the affirmative - e aten, and fer the st.-ccina rv , l o,i ftt:i ~,; 1 ;„_,, : 4, di, i i ,,, , S„ c i c liel Bill men Might purchase a seat lot the purpose nf sery then only, could the propriety' of 'making such an alt so lane an hour 11.2 c .!1! .1 .1..: i;ii oh of cote sit ing , their couetrye and a man who e e tepresed ' I his ! ' appointmeut be conaidered He . th en proceeded to iritoeiny di , kussioil ol :11,. lo ~:::?!r.-, .tltl ~...,i1)41e1:,"?... • own lo on - y wes in-every reaped preferable to ; ape sieate of ehe mlnner in which, Ifni 1311 before instil . 11;e vi - ,ra' late 'Period 'ef 6 'ie . '"' ' , I. !.:',' t::1)114111. ~.0 . Who was returned for a rotten borough.. •The• Mall had been. received. , His Right Hon. - Friend had pro- iwoilid be pr. yet to withdraw teeolio tear i ix liir`e." ll • who pant' into the Housethroligh the corruption of wised to give it a lair consideration, and make it in the oticees:andi'ies, ;elec.) sr, 1,..0. hLt ALAIN VIZ Office, IN is bound hand and loot, end could not by. es effeetual as passible. lie had given it hie ro ver'bal' it forw,ir lon an ear.‘: dav nea . t")e-ii , :ii, , To possibiley be independe'at ; 'but the num who . suppor t , but. a clause should not be suffered to pas Mr. \V. $ 2 ,tur.u. 5t ,,,,1 M r , V.:, 1 ' 1 - ;r , a L,‘l) made a o ft's bought hie seat might be the slave of DO partyiee- ..worele.d in titielt general terms as •to expose the west niisereations respecting the y . .i x } ii e „iel•iiiiiied 1 Otlit* lIC COrliidelTtr t i O be the most formidable shape blatneless'persone toehe shafts of cilumny, for being 1 ells Bill by their Ltariied Fri 4 4 , - (Sir S. lloinilb )0 elf ,cor runtion e and be would oppose it, . It was not " ticnicerne4 .in transaseions to w Inch no obloquy who was absent ; and' Atter a kit' ovum's ita'.rell't :the Mlle.:nee of the Crown, but eel Borough-anon- • Could With justice kie ' attached.• It was .inipos- It4tu tne Attorney General, roe' Bel e , a 4 v i i i t ial(3%` l . l ; 4 gars, • who trenched 'as much upon the Crown as ,,, Stele for anYMinistersio know ev e ry o n e they might . -The other Or.lesi of the Div ' tv,rt't theii ilispcoi.; they did upon the people. He then argeed•at some - have occasion to'employ ; they were. obliged to look of, AO' the •H. .use sdieurese at Terse o'Glo , :.'• letigth - on the ppiationa laid down by the lest Speaker, - : to the weight of local influence and local ylowledee, ;this day. - aa who, he contended, had assumed, that the pradice . and be guided in then' judipent by the character t• t- ' __see. of giving otlicea for seats would coutinue tnespite yen of ,their party by the person who recommended of the present Bi ll, a nd conci4dell by stating, : that' hirn' to their notice. If persons nominated by s if rieceiaoT, he would ,Vote or the,arnendinent• Nieteher were to be consiaered as tut 'et thy 0 e r ey telt • . The SOI.ICITOR-GalmllAL let the Hon. Baronet' t • . L . ~ cooler, iiie consequence would beltersons must be fight with rOpeCt to what he had said, 1n 'a nswer 'sent to different parts of the comitry "%vilely (testi to arguments founded on the universality of the . tude of that information and local knowledge whidli nbetice• that would ensue of transferring of fi ces for • r , . b ' '."I to the d• h• " fI . d '".- A might e essentia • isc aree ,c) his dais, seats,' he had in his answer gone upon the hypothesis • persorethus sent into Yorkshire or lancailtire, from that thia assettioo was true, but had never stated his some place remote to . - these cOunties,.ivouid be a acquiescence to' the principle, stranger' among hating stranger% unconnthedei he ' Mr. WILHERVORCe maintained that the cells that must be with those to whom he was sent by any' would arise front pitting in the word " express," . . kindred tie, by ' ' • interest. - any consanetunity of • lee would be incalculably greater than those attending , I ~ on' L.. te , clause,. iowevei, wilt& they were about to di ns ceijision. . . • vide, he thought was of little iniportance to 0 , the. gi- , . Mr, S. Wortley, Sir W. Leman, - Mr. Cerwen, nerd effed of. t 416 Bill, . • - and whatever {{light be the and Sir , i. Newport, severally offered a lew remarks, e ' • . • .ate of It, he hoped the klon. Gentleman woeld Mr. GitATTAN saiel lie would give the Bill lira think the Bill b {night eprodudive of cou , iclerable support, notwithstanding its, defects, as: it was a advantages, • the ' ' r " - as preventing purchihing o. heat‘; ii i 1 recognition of th eepestitittionel law inflicting a pe. . Parliament fur money;., . . naliy on Ministers fart the trensfeeof otficisa for seats , - in thAt IslOnae, wl;,eit had practically been repealed' Mr, ' i • . WI.IIIIIIIEAD thou& f the Right lion. Cett•• On ti• e 3 (.1 inst. at—Sutton, thy I lon. til ts, BNvllensoo. a 0 141 picuirfaz-Cryi4;:nr, js, of VIM. 11 `"` L': ` Lay.,vt ea",,nl 14 , of a ti,,r 0 • . C !" .Thur`daY .at Sttlik,Nt,... ichn Ei ( l Harr. t, ciAti '"' Lg . S itg:e. 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