The Sun. — London, England, 1809-02-01 00:00:00

~; ;,• - we stipulated for our n e w Alli es .spore th an w e t o t a k e place, he should not again entertnin the same peeson for a Sovereign, caletilited to renovate their . did .for our :ancient Allies, to whoin gi.‘e hacl been expeaetion ; bee:olSe he,couldnot colleen, any infae dcitigdom, by itupherinee merit - ell the Virteesor a . - bound by th e Most solemn stitnalatiore..ofeTtert- ! euetion like this, that „Spvereigns should thus blindly ti ew dynasty i . - He. i eee i !•,... Btie s h - 1 'i we e ld ties. The demand o f the restoration of - elle lawful I submit to dig the pit,: . ; tior : ...their• Own hell. HIS e:e - -. etev er adept :these e , e. ' ,•!, ,e. the - . lelaeoleon echool, - Sov:ereign of Spain . would also have been a.. que3tion pealttion was an b9 l nago: (9 ,the sPirtt t.it 1 It, or th o seef the* t -,: ~, - !.. ' irin wb;cit for sikteen which more particularly belonged to Spain to insult. 'to the . 11 , 1-6 t ,CaLISC 2 ,,pf , hurt reshot) - . the pritejele ,:. .-. ; , i r.,, hA,hee n . tb,-,,! .;,,,,,.., ~... ,7,ith e Tnisery that had uPone it .Would 'likewise .be :to - abandon, that ,hOld of self-presereatiOn. They: haul; epee the .eeee , '1•: ,t ,toe . ~,. ;i !, ; ~,. ~,, ‘ ,. e .„ , ,, , ,,,G e e t ep e e me „. e and liberal p o li c y, i n w hi c h the [-louse and the pub . sum flail t het ,the.. E.tnperer 19f Rweii t felt as n eti,d ,eitconc:enie ir to !)'• . .1. ,' .- ;apposed "ore thOT tO ',. „ , . men, theteeetit . that he' hold ,h avc been influenced 'pf ) l u t out to: the people o f Sp an] even ettch et - tries, as iicevere e last year agreed, namely, to leave Spain .to , herself; and not to Interfere in her internal concerns. by the fc'Aitlgs .of 4 01 11 in nature, and dire . .(ed ! the eye ot philosophy might" discovOr in ' the' best The demand that had been made: in reply to the 1)5 the 'fir.4 PriPciiiib'cif htiii 3 p , iolion, add cOnse- . furnied. Conefittatione. ; e;reat and . glorions. as was first overter es wog th e lowest bet at the same etnentl-y.,. that ,110 would not have . becottte' a perty :our own,: thee. eeoold cotisider themselves better: .-... .. 'time th e m os e e tet eae t ous th at h a d been ma d e , th a t to the designs of .Buonaparte. . If they had a6tert - :,.employed in --rectifyine, any. errors that might :have • 'Speir t might be adhiitied to th e negociation, that otherwke, it would have been said of them, that :crept into its p ure syst e m,, than .in ,p re t en din g to she might h ave the opportunity o f setting het own' they had aspersed ,Ilis' c4tt' l 4ter, and , thro'•vo *Ay _ indp rtor others; 'lliey were content to take $p ~ aill demand s ; _th a t the negotiation shiuld,-not. be ,con- 01 chance of peaces, [4e conft.tssed hintstilf to he tas they .futeuel it and never: wished teetake an lid ducted for her by us , b ut t h at s h e s h o uld be afforded one of those, witia entertained a •hope -that peace e i vantage of its misfortunes , :to modulate its Govern., , en ouportunity o f pleading her Own.cause in the per- might possibly be thes , ;sult of an °Vertu-I' o o6 which letnent into expe t n ue nt. They.ConsidereA it in : the sons other ovi•nplentpotentiariesbetore the assembfed Russia had - been a paety, especially as Russia . hed''',, -1, , 1e,,V the Spanish people_ thernsiblves took-they T kpresentatives of the 'Powers , of Europe.' It had on , e).l. occasions particularly interested ~h erself tor ~ offered no -counsei-the.y sugested no change----to . been stat e d in o il ie r plac'esehat.the proposal.of this ~ the .bonour and security. ; Qt . Spain. If it -,, was a eol.for the admisiion. of. the di facto Government, condition Was to have - demanded'a Preltmioarr con- . question - lot-nuking peare,,she intre;ited that Spain : was not .thereford ., to fuece any thing on Spat ti . , or: to ' Celqind , from France. .But so -far . from tleit being . Might he made a.partY ; it a queitiqu forehitking war, ,•• •interfere at all in the cootinuance or terminatio n o f tht , faa, so far tram ,concession, :having 'been . de- the request was , that.sp'ain i n i g .ht h e exempted troll,v,s ' the te. If eqer. the aosu'er returned by Ftance," manded with respect to the legittini" Soveceign , , the catholities of .oar. - The • recolleeetieti of these ,lV,lin el isters ' e recede Lfroto the cause . of 'Spain, then of 'Spain, it was only Ncluired 'that the existing ' fens, aed the .con'v!6tion how much it must be the . indeed. they would. have deserved' all these 'taunts,. Governm ent,: the .Governinerit de - faad in Spain ' intrest of "W, ash' her Self, to dieeountemithie the . all 'those' sospicions, and a ll t he s e doubts which 'should be admitted to negotiate, that the - Go- - , Pi/lions projects' of Frattee, rendered it not surpriet- e :during, the .interchange, of. couriers between the ver reeent that was in p o s se ssi on o f th e executive ing ;hat else shouldhaee. enterteined A' iStrking iM` i countries were preparing ',lot. them. - Butt° Set, the . authority should be so edinitted,•described too as it pression of the s'mceT. ,, ley ot any oYerttire tnr pcace '."designs o onaparte .still stronger putt tof described itself. as . a party to the-Proposed negotia- coining from su ch - a cleartere-eWhatever .(continiSed' ' view, he lutist recall tO the rec al l of Gentle, Hon. .Seerut.ary), was dope at Ertutth, men, thet :it wee not' in consequence of the fo rm e er tion. This we the least that could have . been done, H the Right seed this we, were bound to do, wit houtaoy dictatione , thete can be no doubt' but 11 1 6 'situation of SPahl, ' tred, to theErttuth overture that be.d towards Seeite, Which had ever been moitetudiouslY which, at. that. tirt.i . e occupied the attention of all us e d ' teemitietion to sohvett Spain', That deNritii- . avobied by his --Majesty's Government. Could any . Europe, formed a v e ry cOnsiderabl i epert of the clitt• .prition w • thi deelartd before the answer was reeeived, one be KO littldread in history, so little versed i n :h e , .cessions. Whet tlutil was the'shiprtie'd his 'ND,- The overtures reaehed this country on the evening mins:ieliona of modern times, as not to kr:OW that it jesty'S Government at seeing that su , l , ) . iett studious, of the..2vd Detoh(ir, aed - 13uoreiparte, on the moree ' was notorious, that in almost every instance GOVern- ' ly - omitted - in the 'Overtures '? ,They could .teitelielp ing.of.thof,;,ithof the same month, in' his' Speech ' men's se, situated had been 'admitted to participate supposing that SPain had,been 'eecriticed by ate kin- , ; or NlesSege,mhis Legisletiver Body, pledged' himself ineNegothitions without any notion- being' eete r t a u e . . peror of Russia, 'and they considered it as their parr, .io place the . Ciown of - Spain, by force; upon the e4.1 ::',..it such 4dmission amountgo•l o ' e a rr 7-,th e small, mount duty to. bong the matter immediate-it to' a ; .head_of his:Brotter, If. there were those Who ever est concession on either.sido. Who does not I:no , N, . 1 ) t ) ' fit; a,tid.to Si . "' '-', thlk it any relianee was ialac,ed i i ehotteht titer an opp4rtunitv , for. sticeelsful newvia - that iri the last wet . of wolitch Spain WrIS the theatre, . in the aid" of Ito;sia in . the Spanish t lose, it was a '; eiorChad b(?Ctlli 415 . ii4etd,. tht.ty ni'ight see from this the wee of seecession e iii .whioh Gleat Britain sne , ' 'reliance on a broken reed. It was therefore neeeee ••, Wher,•,er or not any other Imo of condoct , neethi ' riered'ehe Arelideke Charles,atid Fi'ance the Duke sari'. in their ' r,lnewer, as eeedieuely ,•te :introduce . - nut have been equally'ustiiesi. .Another elteree lee: of Anjotiothat,in that' vea.i there win no exclusion, of the wield ot Spain, as it had been avoided in the ' been : boeight iteeinet Givernmenr.• it . te:i, :;alt, ihe.ey4o.4:iing Goyfte,tnineut.froin 'negotiation, nor w as overtures, a'nd to adopt on e of twe Ways, either to i that whenever tieonaperie • had recolved 4111 iitlV the de;nand to ndmit it ..eonsidered as amoupting i ; eemand. ell for ,Spain i or o nly that ii should be ad- e measure,. eud declared that he would eeconeilis!.: ir, to .11.oy apptieation for preliminary coni.'esi.ion. ..If we ; nlitte,'d, at the. 01.;ciiing ci,t . negocialloni, 40 tre;at in it.s !'such. , : a declaration stittoi,d he reecived, as- the Let. of looked ...farthe r e ee ee t o .'t h e . w e e which separated : betel behalf, - They . pre terree the latter. What then : a,s u p er e or ty- l i o d, ;Aga i nst ,e i bia t 'i t was f ( Al y to op_ tut- I "'N'cOtp.trjris troth Shain e , we.should not find dent '; was the answer r - Twi , ‘A by France, and her faith- lip3C • any kind of resistance. ' :.kie never 'pledged chitiog Ow W hole of ji.s. continuance, the ailcnis,iten , -1 4 1 follo , ,er Ilt,r,st,. ? It had bleu stated, „thee ' lnuiself to antic thing. tint what he could . carry .into cif thi-. - exisiing Geveroment as Hti arty to neeoe i a , , Franeehad 10 a t,-; , .,..eive; but, twin the nature or : • execution I . ..Ris tesolves were inscrtno'nuti.ible''. His lion -% is eler' considercl - concessiblt, nor - was any , the•ees , xi`er &fen i1,e_ . ../;;;ii esh Government, they could , i i career not to .he stopped!. We welt! tlierefrire to sub-: attempt oi ßt s,, mad e t o ..exchide.it . from:any it- , . , otia- ;. Only reittirn a dire6t' negative to the demand there •', Mit to depencimeeeif he deciAred such b . ) bteliis will tine. It ere s. the meat; , : teezo, that thelow•Coon- made,; „het.this . •,teis.tiot true. France might have .1 and. pleeetiree•and sh . fat Topa diring• tun Maud •glo tries first rose to re s ist theeahlhority of the King of . seid, that. a s Be te i u en d s ee m w ei,e not ii i alli4ast?, ..f ,riously fortb , the•• champions of the . Contieeet; We SPzlitt, and lee Mil esendence, el the I7eitedPiovinCes the Go'vernoietit Of Spain might be pertnitttld to . 1, L e,ere. pot eseh to'think.tel 'deeittiditig out. eves :against bed not' been .ri,e-gtike(l' formally till the pylc, o f 1....: , . ,t, resent :in,..; . -akvtiyi-.the quesi.ion of rig , ht to the •.1 ':i.l4s. irresistible ieaderl'„Stiela th'eelit . be: the opiniou ' Iltlit 7 oe.r ni 164 a, During the:whole of that petiod . b;:wet,tigtr,ol. that countty. . i3y, „ Oliti weatts.,lintina- ' 1 'Ol Semi; bur , uch I.tial.nOt his opinion ; nor the out- the' existine Gorerteueni of th e provincese ee I b een , earl e e ()old preserve his dignity. : Oche- ittieht title I )!lull of tee British people: Ev, : o Wert:Jill : , ship io ' a..linitted to neeotiate, without such 'artimosaitin ha‘ing : said, we will admit the de j:gt.citi a)Vcrno . ) . ent of i which we,. Wete l'atbarked ‘dirlot)g, it Was Our' duty been coloaderett a concession. In (Temand%c, the ta - Si):tio to tre.,4, providvd y9t1,,..., ,, i4 . et the swine belle Ito struge,le against..th, o boi e te ro e s ei en ..,,, t , 4 b ut .,h, fore, that ThvG)vvrnitlent defarloi)f Spain shotild be admit nt . Pli.'lliiit4inialidi twill illy broth:or the d .J. Lever couki:ackhow.hidge 'that such was Mir st•3te.-; admit ti,d a party to the negotiation', we demanded the . jure .Kitt4. ' t ..t was tot noW , -tteceisary ln diSeLliiS t, we - wel:e..ridir t ig proudly. a r id n I Obiy. bliOymit en n tt,trii possihlo condition uf , t,b6 enemy ; at a dater . . What would have hoen the alt Wel - , 9 1 G . 'vt , lutnrlnt:: the wa es. ' (),# those". who entertained such ties ,,i ',event tna country ringlit possibly Contend for inure ; ,to thin proposition ;he nerely tnemtioaLd it :is the ' t ,pits Aug, secti; unman ,iach unseemly semi t bet veitleett tueatilitig to ititelt.4;rate ' . the interests of - reittin which might have beer) by Bii..:napat te : (Dents; .he WaS sure the nurr.ber lisps very sm-.11. Spain. Int telt that no more coded have been deMand- ! instead of 'a direct negative. Whit then AS h,; hats ' .Thev wire r t Ursed in ndo, and whet) publicly de ed tat rho hist instance; ...hid the moderation 1.1 the already. said, ;.wls. the answer . .ictvirnetl by •Bovita, . i crated, not. single voice Was - heard to cheer or che- . ., conilition wits SittliCient to quiet all suspicion in the parte ? Was it either of the two lie hadju e t epeci-. : risb. them- ...Even at the anxious and n...rilouS'im • tu . itids or yniiiitinid respecting, iho sineerity of our ;fled ? Nol it was dist:wetly this ' `` It' " 0 ;liriile 1 Anent when we Were ;stripling to Struggle ' with - these mist, for pee ve , What concession then r h i - 1 d . ',be i. 'shill! I -S- - 'I sl'•bs•• d ' '. I -.b . - • en . 1 ltt • paii4 ? npeop e L. ,1 inlittA tojie.a, ecoupe ariver6 , ;..., Ivaves our fittli and - honour .oueht . to demanded of It ' " ' ..nonaparte ~, auSoLutety none,. - .:The : 141 y .ate. n i a ~(- ; ii„ , Of teht:lii,it to Me aii'd :ii SO,e-• le; '? good ' s ' " preserved on .our buesogreso. In another, and adini,iion to negneiate ttione was dvinan;led for,the, i reten it is my.)si'ill loioipos& upon tUirt.' It 'wati eel utirly the iew bib! '' ret 't *-1 wl ith We mild Spatted) Goeorninentt, hot' the . admi,sion to ne . go . .' , ' dean BOUtree:irte ;led jot the Bia'll.,ll GeVereitic:ili •- " s r f I : li't '' t ' ' '' 1 i fti ) 1 t 'tl 1 S . ) , ' , , consoler . I 1111110 3 - 0.1:' CuimeL t. 1 1 ' I i 1 . 411), ,, t late would Ito; dt‘Citie the rii. , ,.lit. Jr had .been ' I l't - I L ' -' I •- '' ' I .satt ~ w lee) I.n. I equit, rei,e,,tetiott. t ": , , 11 0' coit- namely,. ary to nurowil interest, could atty one ot that Inv,' d.' 'nand ot.4.!ht to have been introduc o d i tained' in their tientaird. .it.i. a prAude t'o Ite.4ouiin ion ; the.'..t sw who lout; e l e ti • thi.i in'this selli'h hop the ' negOCiation, which might • h3ve• kieet . j` 'f: h . .I ' " • .i.. . tilt C .. li • 1 - Ii i '• • c ' . ' ' . 1 • '''' ''' ". ..' I; 4t In 11$ all6Wp • , , kk ."'- t ‘ "9 1 I k-t - 1,. :4. ast • ,vtew,• say - that we• otrrht to have abandoned'the entered , into upon the basis of 'the Nei eossidee I; had sitnpl . ' 'a i ' . •1 • ' ••'' it. ills y . I. 1 . . ' . ' ''. ' ... .Y s'" .A" ""` `''' .ll P ‘ .)1 , - ' , " ll '. i licuP e cause at Spells. . rhere might•he'many- opinions as its 'But bv• wl - t;.- . ' I. , •-- --se rig,tt, conlo Spein hive bee n e through their existio t e Guyerainetit to treat, it wOutd the'emode in which . assist'anee ought to . have been let lam f • h regoclattee upon:stick a besis, if not• 'i not' have I;e:eu ao beech, Oil the' reaeei lie tultnedi- ' rendered, but let ' one '• . 'I • , -,_. oe ‘i':itl y one opmion on t Its . . allow. tn..). -... ..+0 •411 flrlgl/14,V:irty to the.ne4otiatinn ? 1 at l / 4 .1) Atter as.ii e 'eeeti, pui an etei to toeitnestio.t. Ile ' point, that 'we ou - t ' ' •-- t seem .t eit not, in nay case, o o Who. - -. possessed Spain, •so as •to let in the considera; ; affirms that Jo.epli Bitonaitatte k..i.nig, :imi in coin- apply . - I. • ', It }l a d treed to • our cove paructi ar interest. *ion of her i I 1'; - . -. inter( upou "such a basis ?We bean o , poeng with his ereliteitiat ) ,we vy'onidi.oi. only tiave, I spread, by our .enenties.on the •Continent . , that Eng- ' right to negotiate. for Seain 'upon such fermis, he ib++nduntd the fleetest, but ilt ''l r ` ) Y'l t h e L''aill , " of ' hturl. stithulated the wir :•which, had so lout; disterbe cause We ha i hot the possession ofeSpein , Upon ! Spain; we most hive ialtritited their d's..eriptiott and '•' b ' - f 'ld . ' r 't' lie •Ow • * , • ese-e , a .reposeeo . Ilia world itt pu slit of i t anoillei• r - -*. hall )eeeston he telt ,it les duty eo,pretest l sanctioned their punishineitt as rebels. Yet it" et,ny, I advantiteee and: iO-no4tnent'her tuaritime superio- aeaiitt:, t;iis•print:i t ile Of fterretiatin'efor an indenerei- I further illestratien'of ill's plilleipieli W:"..'re tiiiC '3 . i• , • ' 3 ' . •' - - 'r e d •• ' 1 . . L „at), rity-end-thet it she tat in flat? preservation or it.r ent nation a' , • ' t , .:"'. , , i , ...., . : . r-, •-• . ~ , . .. a , s 'test_ had thr.pos*essia4 in Such an ex _ it was to be fen el in eti4. nest par.lgrapti, respeet ie r. o : allierS,'ithe Was; ever ready to share IW:their plunder. a-aoafill.[ . ti to authorise us to treat for it upon the hAsi4. o f . • Roman eatholicq of . Jreland. . Ile • (Mr. c,,) ( tllY , (lirt.then wA•• to he taken out to !suffer 'the impu -1 --. ' '''. . " ' . P °sl -) 5 . 0 o. He protested againt the principle . Mentioned t hie cireeetoLitice to reProb,in! it, i:ind titi-; i tatioreof a 6l ' " kind ...ot a: I,,i.it in the war for: Spain in the case of ' ''' the King of 'Sicily; 'atid lie abjared it : tic , ' , 'd , the ',irgrtan•tntinildw'ed by oor ell'ettiY, to slie`sy ,' and aoraittzs.t such a suspicien Ministers had most tall:- in every instance. If we had , aceeoted the tiroffere c e try falsity Itedece,ienen, though he ' Was tar from al- ' tionsr;luarded the.hotnimr oltheir country. 'lt . cer; basiswithout stipulating the adtuisi of the.s , ..1 ImiVirl'ir 'if iit, ev .n. 'ouhied in truth. ' kic b e ... -I 1 ' ' l. 'I L• 1)1 't - ' the ' . ' 0v ,,. . . , .,. .on ..i.tiniz,i. 1..., c. t... .. ,, .. ~, 't .r . )6 ( `, bilit y tit , ett pessi dor lei ,at emennettee , ern:Mem, it weight have given to Fianee .thee to ha undetatood as not acknowlerliplig' that end Ca- fu. tit of the 5 p panish waiatj have rentained neutral, Claim to the fortresses fe • ' t- "' t• they . • : - . ' ''' ,-,- 0. opatn,woten had gp 'tied th9licA i re Ireland' were rebeis; lint if ihei e were re- and ~said to out selves, we are "glad to see discord poisession °Eby treachery, upon the same priheielee • bets in that coutorv, they ',vete rebels to a King in springing up between Fretice aed bee , ullies ; but 'the ; n til*rhaPs-that was the .objeit which this .F', any complete pos. , :cSSlyi) of Ike, counity atid Petfeet,itilni voite and teeling a' ow .1-ititiiii wilton :declared' . bad irtyiew in thepeopt!stdeftheirdelusive Overtures, r i g hts . Y.:t t hey r e cto cony ar,c(i to tite;,finiverittl 4ourlly anthvelietnently aeairistell',e t . ....(itine:., - When By dernedcling the . adtiitssitiri of the SiTani . s . h Covern.- SPitokli h4','°" in..1tni,,:),. , ,',i11,ft the nsoritnO t i Of .lid- .We'..: had thee gone into th:t More. high nod elevatea Illetit to the NT ft of we hid given- Fran ce an , sepli litiontipiarte, ' l / 4 s. ho it( Otter lilt , ti; i :,E, Ito!' poi- line, we wer-'l)onnd to net [v.:P.3 to it i with the theee opportunity of doing aertiy 'all suspicion upon this sessiote To retu r n to ti-,..n r go r nni of nisisting on :1 vle(eir eed pktNOveratise. ii‘ lee had agreed tO the hejd, if her views Were hot sinister, 'There-we ee preliniiiiary demand, 'he had to rel)cat (hut the Bd. tcr r iti propoeel be Buotiap'ute,• Spain :won't! haVe °them v. ho woreof opinion that the acceptance of his I _ill:, eievernisiede ha lee: t empled twining, they had been in al Woi•ir, eoll44 . loll'.ln:in When i , h6 hest TO: - .;! 4i - it-overture had lic.en but a .rrier,e waste of . , ti t se e .„ Merely resist e d a ,d eto .l m ,f.'. , I, , ,eyhrici s„id, ~,,,, ,viit, against . t•ii ~ , ,.p,-,tiun. • Desereet in the tnemetit uf end thin consequently this might to'llave" h . , , , , e o ' re . not, with' a st'rolte of a peri,_diktfros a whole people, her greitcst no. , it, and given op to the Vell!„temice e eetited at . once. In thte prelimee ar y o pi n i on he was to slavery, :11,1 I aci:nowiecie a tyraitoot is -Itel usoip- tsn . enrag e d ,It e l Iff:emotes coructektr. lit theie.cti ziot disposed 'to concur. He and his colle:igues, ing ( f2/ 0, . , ' ,. . II .-.4 also been said', ti tat the . quos- lighte,:ted dap; tho impo'titiou of a ftneigli tlynr..tty. thbu!gh nOt , sanguine that the resnit would end in lion in Spa ti p.'eti w.iii tuth: • 6ly at to . therighteer'iliti•etent wls not regird,el with ..,,, int e e, ehlsoriencee as it wen .)esee.,..- 'yet thought the. trial worth making; and the . lciie,...oe and 'that , the matter between Ghales the , eettsidered whet wenn hitt:Teal . revulatioris the i:ircum.t 4 - • ; • ---.ance oft e.Ettiperor of RttSsla being join e d Foul . ; ti and 1. - ?erditiattd the .Sevdritle, 'did tint requive tlstirpers nitglit' tittrolue,:.. Glad was he to t hi nk in fuel,,,„i.i . ,- - .„. ;, i ~ .;•iittcation gave strepgth . ta any expeciatio n . • our interielenee. He readily agreed te'llitti; tivit We that . 1:41. ileteeta,ee a ni0.:.,., of reasoning was confined T )a ` "Olt be coieceivedof die possible restotatlon ot had •no business--wits) with the , qt:testion - between. ti:e7 , .. _tp t)::,iy a .. te w , p , ,h1i . c.41, s.ipecn!.l . ions ; the geneval " e t )lP. , ;:ltig,c of pcace. They had hopedet hat the. Eirr.: 'f ell a an d .., k g iii, n . ate • Sovi l reig n i, '. It 'wits .' the sense :ine it:elide; et in:lnkina retolted',lt the idea.-.-- Pert)r of Russia, IrOin a consider.eion• al flit; perfidy , person ' .wlinot till';, Country , ' unanitnotpdy p10t , ... 'rhere w..,; :An instin,.live teelitig, the better betetuse 4'itlr'Whieli the French fluter had rained r,0 ,, i,-,3i(a l tered • ,lii , •th.,:it- Ein'y, ~ t ho s t we rWt.BNli ODOl3d .10 it was ittstinctit C, '.'.'111 , 11 eeteht nations to repel. the oft he Priecipel. fortresses of Spam, 'ind of the vill.•nov iictitio'.i4 , lllo.: Rot '' we vv ere •oot 'to , consider Usurper, twe..to , ;‘.. lie ,-;ii. a , _;,:lttlferilf, will - ' -he ' . - - t which enticed the legitimate sovereign of the edict 'of Buorriparte as the YOrc6. of the -pihr . that country, first beyond his homier, and after Wards pie. Tite universal. enthusiasm .of the . There wan an triesieible impulse which bound men hid . him; with all the hiembers of his house,. into nation, in favour of. Ferdinend Vil e had deteentined itp their native soii ; witiOr :veil.' them etierieb their ceptivity, would have opened' his e y es to his sitna- this ,cuutitry , in it s de4iian. It had indeed been iadupentietice 3 . which united them to their legin e 'jot! ; would have calculated the degree of forbear- said, and asserted by our enemies, that thisuniter- mate Prinee4; :IA which tired them with enthue '' -i e "ce he 'had '. - to expect after such atrotities had sal entbmiatiln • was the result of arts pr.i:cf.ied'by si:ts.t ic iiichguation apitrat tilt: impoaition (if a foreign hero eetninitted against the best anti most Aieviice- - Britain. To' ,say nothing of the absurdity' of this yoke. , .- NO benefit to be received' frouvia coequeror a t t'le and most faithful ally and friend of Frenee i assertion, which count - only , I;d;sopported . by con- -critild, in tdv - .1 . r. meet, eteeee'ller the Itise Of nationaL the . ' - .mnst , susteining, nourishing,- • unreproaching founding all 'clatees end times, it 'was scarcely reqnie . jacteeientlente. - Let es then (continued he.) do ho- P w•vier that had "ever exhiusted its own means, - to site to point out the impossibility ot - sihring up t, in , ..ie to the Speuielteiattoll tor theireetteelimeet to Promote • the ambition and the, interests ;of an numerous provinces . at a dtstance'itom each - other, their native soti-een ettacheieei. which in its origin all y.- He '.lied an expedlation :that . 'the &Tee and resembling so ttlaq distinct' killgdOrns;'• to rise is d1v416 . ; and do not !,..t. t:t.i.t ~ t thern with' being e lee co u ld ittlinitt, ' from the' eompanitively little that at once :and Unanintottily lift up their hands. for ii- • cettioryheltind cis in e, ee. e , , , Tin keowledoor .1 " ! e ( Mld (10 for France i compared with what bad betty and independenee, • . Fifty , pruclatnations . had .• attactied to prejadtee. . i . ie',, , ,:, in politics, or iii neen done by Spain, and the possessors of Spanish • almost Simultaneously heon isatted .from - elifferetie i arts, e Inch ~ ve have !, , ii e e , .. ee,,teeintited. ,lii con, S'''ith America; could not look to any very exem. ' , pouts of the Spanish dominions, i s seliteb; 'with the i einsien, he begeed the House, in Judging of ethyl . P'ary, fort;earanee, and that die had at..letigth - toiception - of calk two or- thel.'''te;• aectijig- 1 i -.-.... as decker- -con,tuct ptirti.,ti ht his Lem t ; Mitti.fters, to lay 'qt?ed when he would endeavour to, retreCe hie ' Mg Ferdinand VII. to he the oleieet Of their clioieco aside te , ery 0110.1 ill zt . leir tolvont -, , ,:hieb int,,;ltt c4cit.d, ( ' 11 "se:-Si 1 16: 'lli jUfl6.llOO With ..Vl . 7,atle.': i'la was not :ovt-!, loyalty, and adinhation. Wthild it bc lent- `, 3;1 1111eR'it in ti,r.t ile , ri, and to julge them to Ilia it 44: stye, :that, if the .Erlartn J meeting - arc again tended titan it Wat; our duty to point [ 1 ena out a new , matter of the 11c.40titttlon i. 7. the ociaQsL rules, as • if they Had hoer) treating with an nni , orthy ally an I an Unetceptl'onal : le,eiwtny. Ifewas free ttrack.now lage,":hat,%- with this tx'ception . of thr.. - iotive due to SoAin being omitted, - .and s)ine f:!ht.r• uoi..t: in the nattire of ' thd language, the ,titsf ovvrtures lin E.- ;forth sc'erped caicnieed w htliq fln a nes:foliation 1)/ get th , g, - 'rid of all pleliminary '~ ' llc Rig t' ~ . .::ettret.irr then tonvt:d Ad2.ress. thankintk his Majesty - fur the cortni t tioi,Noira l o n thi :s s t itj t ,,, z 4 made to , t he ifonco. to NU } )- ,pert him trie"rnaintehance of the-war, nd proving' of the line of .condur..t pursued by I.VitiniF.teri on the late occasion of -ihe overtures made by and France from Erforth, &c Mr. WHITBREAD comptimentel Mr. Canning on the eloquence of 'nk and tor (N o me of the sentiments, which it ,contained but with respetc.t . to , I . he proposition troin 1 twill, he neither approvod of the condua of Ministers upon that occasion, nor was he convinced at present by the soeeeh of the .Right: Hon. Gentleman. He contended, that the A.niwer sent by our Government to lloon.iparte Weis insulting, and such- as 'ought not to have been sent. , Much had been said of the atrocities committed'by .Bnonaparte, but he by no means tnought, they were unparalleled. ' fie thought our own coodtiEt in India,. and in Denim k t and the parto ion of Poland by Russia, AuStria„ and. Prussia, 'quite as fea as Buena parte's conduCt. The, proposition, w!lif:h had been mode to our Geyernment from trfullh, spewed, in his oPinion, a good oispasition on the'part of the . vert.igns of Russia and France; but instead of_encou 7 rziging such a disposition,' it w:isnie't by our Minis ters with'insult and sareashi, An att'empt .had'beeti wade justify their conduet by an Assertion, that Buonaparte was not sincere in his oiLrs: this asser tion certainly bad not been p;T:vcd, 'and there ap pearad-to him strong gronndi for t;:/inking that Boo; nap;lrte was at . that tiAue sine-re in his with , for because be,stood rather in a I.eculi.:r situa tion witlrregard to Anstria. `PliccondivA Minktez, lioNve.ver, ba.d tenciered it inioo ,, ,vi')l.• to, ascertain' wbether he was lot, Jnil. , er which tray totes ;led. adverted :to what 13tipaaparie had !3-aid t}!:c; CazholiCs Ot Jr .11.1nd, and expresse , 'a hope tliat it would ilitiOCe 'l .. .iiipstqs to turn theli ;went inn to that body ormen.. \Vith regard to Spor.in, it appeared to 'him that thu entbusi.isrn whidi bad cxistod in that country • was guile, „OntiliO tiOL COMtitit to iht'd,anotiplr AtOp .of British blood in the cause, unless- a moral, certainty of success could be. shewn. After enlarg. Inquponthesedifleient topics loracon,idaAlet,lngtil of (lin e , be deeldreiii, that t inyugh . he was convinced he should he in a small stinclitY, both in Ihnnotliu and in Country, yet he c0n! , ..1 t)U give his assent to the,Address, and lie should <inure an a;ilerktuent,--- " thanking his frt.:joss), for the cointiontical ion of the Papers_; assnting bin) that tin hay,' rtvslted, extrernelp,had the clnse of SpAin aban...!oneJ„.• but that they did ttyti rya.; calh:d ter by the. other •Belligerents ; the Note trar.sruitted .by his l'irlai.ity!* Secretary for Forvig,n Artldrb Wi.IS Unwise, and eiinetestar for the c0u,“.".0f Spanish independence ; that the nego. Cla , loo ought to ' have been. tot tiler entered into, iu ordor to ascertain if any ben6it could,possibty ,iocroit rem it; • and to hem his Majeicy to avail hitn , .eit of any-fyktute opportunity offered of onnetuditig a peo•AS ;Consistent with the honour of the country and the ;dignity of his crown. 7 ' Mr. PONSONBY di ered from his -Hon. Ft iend , mot po;nts of the amendment w hiCh hip had pro. poft;ed. The i hononr of the Crown 'and. the iutereit& of the Country de.nanded immediate eXplana., tion, which Itad been required.bm his Nlklesty's Vernment with respect to the inteations ut FrinTrl. 'and Russia as to,Spain ; .nor diti:hathink that trom a .afore moderate tone happier ~results would have ensiled. It gave him grvat.pain.to differ from his Hon.:Friend, bet his public. duty eninpelled hitn.on Such an important - occasion explicitly to - declare Ins sentiments. :Mr. CHOKER replied with great ability to Mr. :Whitbread, and we regret , very tnuch that we. circa , sunali!e to give his speeeb at 'length. Adverting to the. allusion. made by the French Minister to thti". Irish Catholics, he reprobated it in the most pointed terms.. ~it -was r , a most', base and cowardly insirtni. tion, and; he firmly believed, a most foul sliptcler,,- . a4though he was convinced it. was not intendedby 13tionapatte to be so considered in this country. , 1 . 14! trusted that the British Nation would treat it with" the indignation which it ckserved. MC. li/IONTAGI.11: in short speech, in which) he was iepeatsdly called to order hy the House' and the Speaker, supp,orted• the Aizlendtlttmt. Sir FII ANCI S BLIT: D 31.1 Hort o tile ronendmetit: He recommended'. Oro 'House to take a hint froini BitotqApAitTE,•and as .fhe taunted , us with th don. gars .to Which we Nvei . tit i exposed front the Catholics pt Ireland, •to lOse no time ill avert'.. those clanger.), by.giving to the Citlt.Olies the [..i •: ; ( s wh dewatlde,d, 0.1;1 he 4 Ill.' '4 1..., ktd , I)elieved• 2 , , u;nion, .( on !or• unrelenting desk • , - shonid Ira t "to shew sympt,e4tri'''':4:rki what is • . or .to detend their tuwitry an With r !speet. to the general muck, i t% Spain, tlwre were Iwo lines or' conduct, one of v.: '..ch. ought to bave been ptirstied ; either we ihould have tien t ~300,009 toed into Spain, andlaken poss4ssion cat the passagoof .the Pyrenees, or we should ity.4ely have supplied the Sinntiards with anus, ainrounitit:•!4, &o.—Liut the. liriti.• f h Golerriontrat liad;taken iniddle course. incopc,:ity of Kiogs ;it :, 1 ,, re .; t ,...6 d ui 1400. G,:tir:ctrs.:ii 11161, o; 1)M Atyli •n=it not proposed if. olooi-yanco Miijtsty to remove then..., 6., the frst step towarcis the correCti o n of the abuses it!' the country otroondetl. Mr. .4totEs.Fejtp supported the .otigitial oration. Poricnr:sTErt depreeitttxl the tone of f.lito ww.. ai.iii)4lll, it, if \Vt.: Woe no lotit.; . er able to'inairi thin liescility, hot were forevd to the cnnest, a pori'ition he coo - 4,li* deroed. tie 0441101, flow-• ever, that the aos‘ver of our (.;'overritricnit might have been less irfitatitig, although lie bad no enneeptior4 that the result would in that case. have been different from what it. was. . . , Lord H. PgTTY oppono the titp,mdinent because 1w wos coutioced tthit probandity tit a pollee resulting trut h the, provis;t:otil troto ~.rturt Mr. CANNIIkiG rephod at sow( troiwtti. and withgt - eat a011:ty to the vitt ior.s :iLd."had boeh Lited on the other bide ; tt4t the °ye; Etr'i'SCo‘.ll4.l not have Jed, to peace wetted admitted' ffl all hands, and, the objediuto 0r50414 parts of the subietl Wittia i