The Sun. — London, England, 1838-07-11 00:00:00

COAL MARKET.-(THIS DAY.) Per Toe: last market-day, 112. e'er Tot, Walls End s. 21 6 Walls End Itussel's Hetton... 22 9 Walls End Stewart's 0 Walls End Hartlepool 2l 3 Walls End Adelaide ... Wa'ls End Barrington Tees l9 0 Walls End Barrett 2O 9 Walls End Deanery . 18 0 Walls End North G ordon.... 1 , 1 Walls End Seymour Tees .... n 0 0 Walls End South Durham.... 20 6 Wills End Tees of 6 Walls End West Tees l7 9 Brampton Main l7 3 % . 41 - 34 :4; 41 45 4:1 d.(l. 1). ti 00 0I 511 q 0 50 5a ;i6 61 60 6 00 01' 56 (3 90 10 f) 1 , , 0 II 0' 9, II 01 7(; 8 C Ships arrived since. Adair's a. 0. 17 9 Bute's Tanfield Moor l9 I) Carr's:Hartierl l9 3 Holywell ....... ..... 2L 0 Russell's High Main l6 6 South Tanlield TanVelcl Moor 21 6 Vvyl Walls End Gosforth 2l 0 Walls End Heaton 20 9 Walls End Kiliingworth Walls End Nrwmareh l9 0 Walls End Belmont Walls End Braddyll's Hetton 23 0 Walls End Hetton 23 3 MARKET INTELLIGENCE. (Preto the Neu, London Price Current of last Evening.) SUGAR—This afternoon the Market presented a more lively appear. twee; there was a steady demand from both refiners and grocers, and the rates previously established were fully maintained. The purchases privately amount to 700 hhds and tierces, besides a public sole of 129 bhds Barbadoes, which went at steady prices, and all sold, low to fine quality at 57s 6d a 6:10 6d per cwt. Of Refined goods the home trade have purchased very sparingly of all descriptions, although a reduction en former rates of is to Is 6d has been submitted to. Lumps rather under the standard have been sold in limited quantities at 745, and those passing at 74s 6,1 to 755; a similar decline having been acceded to for export kinds has caused buyers to take several parcels of double Crushed, in all about 350 hhds at 33s 0d to 345, but in the present state of the raw market, the demand is not general at these rates. For Dutch Crushed Sugar 33s is required, but there has been nothing done. MAURITIII9.—The buyers have purchased more freely : and two public sales consisting of 4,901 bags, which went at previous rates, and all was sold, good yellow 58s 6,1 to 595. The stock is 39,096 bags heavier than in 1837 at this period. The arrivals this year have been much larger than last. EAST INDIA.-2,419 bags Siam, and 2,257 biva Manilla were sub mitted to public competition, the former were nearly all bought in on rather lower terms, good white at 32s 6d, mid 30s to 31s, grey 20s ; 130 bags sold at 20s for mid grey ; the latter fetched their full value, bright brown but damp 19s Gd to 21s, heavy 1 is to 1 Ss Gd, washed 16s Gd to ISs Gd per cat. Fortatox.--For yellow Harannah there has been a steady de mand, and fully previolis rates have been obtained : at - public sale 2,036 boxes were all soil, low middling bright to very good at 26s to 29s 6d, oroinary rather soft 255; in white the transactions have been !United ; at auction 816 boxes wore WI bought in ls under their pre vious value; Brazil is held for late rates, but there are few buyers ; the stocks, particularty of Havannalt, are much heavier than last year at this period. For auction on Friday 300 chests Brazil are declared. MoLassz3.—Pries of West India have again given way Is, and buy. e.s have purchased sparingly ; 26s has beets accepted for a small parcel of fair St. `;scents, and 25s for 100 puns ord dark Trinidad, which which were taken in at pdhlic sale, but sold afterwards. C. Mt —This a:le:moon the public sales consisted of 30 casks West India, and 100 bags Cey'en, which brought full prices, the former 99a a 10-1 s 6:1 for mid and low mid Dominica and St. Lucia, and 84s a 89, for Rood and tine otd ; the latter ladled 83s 6tl a 84s for good, and 88s Gd tine ord green. The public sales de lared are 1.59 c sks Jamaica, °Ou bags Ilavannah, 200 bags of St. Domingo for to-morrow, 150 casks British Pl.mtation, 100 bags Ceylon for Thursday, 3,000 bags Brazil, and 4,103 bats Ceylon ftr Friday next. JtklM, BRANDY, ♦kl) tiot.taNns.—Tte Rum Market has assumed a more liveiy appearance; a brisk and general demand has betn expe. tier ced siren c ur last, both from the home tr.-de and the shippers, and an nrivalice on Irevious rates of id. to Id. has been obtained. In Geneva the purchases have b-en limited at previous rates ; Brandy has been sold to a fsir extent at late rates, first brands et the vintage of I tg36 in puns have brought 3s 7d to 3. 8.1 ; British Corn Spirits steady at JO+ per gallon. NEAL:O.-707 chests h,i7e passed the sale this day. Previous to the opening or the vale 33 chests, reported as having been sold previously, were withdrawn. They gruerally brought 2d to 4d advance on the Aprd salc's r.res; mid and deti.tive sorts went wiih iess spirit, and no uneveLly at from last sale's prices to 2d discount. TEA.— 'lie market eon - inues in a v-ry inae;ive stale, and pr:ces are on the decline. Tte .±cmand at a p.,lcic salcs, up to the present tiao., has twen very limited for all Lin.si and prices, as compared with tit- la t auct,t , s, r; dtv.dion of 3,1:a 4d on etic,d ,did tine l'olr,ou. 94* 3d 011 o d and mid, 3 t . Iwso:.ay, 3d on Peso:: and 3 -, uehong, a „,l k id t o .2d 0 ,, (•,,,, ; 1 0 , 1 an I Fokien 11 , 11 e •. Fosit Oil • thrre has t,n a god demand ; tr•u:bern 5t.1.1 at, lather be ter prie• a, wit; all were. tliSpoSeLl of, and to good quality bto'ig t •25/ to '271, at c: a f.w lots of tin ; Spat tit so'd to a tairux•ent nt 142! ; the denian I tot Limeed ha; bee•ttita Innltct.l, and a few small sa have bred 'mole at 6 233 0.1, wh,ch is [whet- lower than previously quotml ; h,a sold heavily, blown at 304 Cid to 37b, and pule at 33• ; P.drn is notnistal at 401. tiors.--'1 he ottity has laren to 140.031 q. The ma , kPt h!s beco me very 411.11:..0tt the :rceounts, from the Viaot-atio;ls bt ins of a ul.,re favour_ trtioar, prices not so goad as they were. fitc,,...—.‘t auct.on 1,1175 ha 3 ohly pa , by found buyers at retie' easier prices. mid. to dotal whir, at I-Is a 15. 6 ! per cwt. '1 it LLOW —P. V. Candle of first quality have yielded 41s 9d to 48s for smal , pare.•ls. Fin de 'very tto r.• has been a better dispo.itinn evinced on the part uf buy rs to do business, at,d pun ha:es to a lair txtent have 'en made for the lad three. mouths at 4tis 611 per cwt. Ptiovis.o,..—The to mend tad' loreign Euttvr ila3 inert a ed, and higher pr.ces have been obtained, flue Kite and im;adters lciaing for a fur her advance. 1.1 1.1,1) I.ttle to t.othittg doig. bacon continues to ha hel.i firmly for I..te and there .s tattler mote (lemma. Lard is unchanged in vslue, and the sales are trivia'. All kinds or Cheese dull at previeus rates. maid and Mess Ilt of and Pork are not quite so an .c to denaiid, and, lot the latter a slight reduction in wives has be , ql accepted. Sric.3.—This Afternoon the auetlang consieed of 475 bads Eastern rete,..,:, and 3,500 pneketi (linAer. time f.,;:her wegt at steaey prie grey mixed !mil' heavy at 3 j•tto add per Ib ; the latter we,.t at 213. It, .21i 6d. fur fa.r y. . . •";:t vrvicrug o a'scti:ms of 1,773 tagi Went al stilepr:co , , 235. Gd, to 9.45. 11:r refract:on 1 1 , to '2-1. i'ltlC:: t.l' • the higher' p-ire or ilrea.l hi the Jlet..potis is ;o'. for the 419. Loaf, .toots st.aa may be had at B'd. PRICE OF SEE.)S.—JuIy 9. Ye. Quarter. r er cwt. New En7llsh !Ted Clover:.o .70 Ss+ ISt. Fain 41s 49s st. 014 I).tto Ditto 4. -.4 -.4 'Rve u'ras• ls. 3. , s 40. Nrw I,Heieri Din • sls Ms 7.is I :......'y tiraas -s 4 : 2 , to o•d 1) tto Ditto -4 40,. no., , Linseed, for fe,,dn•4 -.46: 5",1 -r. New White Ciover •Oi 5N 0:;.. I I)itio, for sww:og .„-4 :•0 .=,r t , P. ,, Ihtto 14tto _......_....... _4' Oat", ha' crushing ..... . --ti .s to.. Ned Tre:..:l 'I. 148 21,. i'. , inv , y - ..to, 5o o.i 14:ttn -4 42s 18. limp -s :l es 46:. , wetn:ill , ll WA K. i 4.; Per Bps' vl. 2 ,. .t.th.. , is (Nrraway --; 441 4 41. White Nlustani...... is i : 9. oil. e'oreoni 1 )i!to -4 40, 4S, iirOWIT Dial, Coriander -s 0 , 124 I are. Ropse.o.e..l, Er.si..l: hoe .per 1,,,t1 IN. 3-2 . ~,,,,,, . 26.. f a u. 1-`141(41.4 OF 1•11)Pi.-Ju1y 9. Virnhaln v , ektol (10-r cwt.) East 1• ••• Pockets. Ditto Seq.: .... AIM Kent Pockets Ihtto Bags O. I's 4 5 to 5 E.'s. "I i.M. 9 14. to 4 2 Year: ngs Old Olds Ih. Os 1.. 04. to .2 1 >s. PRICKS OF POT ATOM AT SPITA LEIF:LDS Vork Reds 'front vessel) 4l fs. to ;II 44 ).o. ton Scotch Reds ditto. .,/. Lis. to 41 0. ditto Kidneys •"/ 1 i. to I/. Vs. ditto Jerseys -L. !s. to :fi. 104. ditto PRICEs OF LEATHER. Per 11) d to d. I__ _ ----'Per 11 , O. to tt. Crop Ilides,3o to 4011, each II 13 !Horse Hides, Herman ...... 10 21 ko 50 - Spzil!,..h ,d Cr' null Hides Hutt*, Vitriol ... .. IO, 17 --- 50 04' •RI `.:l - Englioh -70 Its +ll, 'A ---.... 1 . .1 - Owl Foreign links ln I'2 ----- small 2O ::2 the,sing (+des ...... .... • . . ._ .._ -- Shaved 12 15 I arils 8.-• t Saddle►s Hides ...... Horse Hides, English • If rounded 2a .to 4.1 per lb tru COUNTRY CORN MARKETS DURIN 7 12 6 8 7 13 Wheat. thrley. , Was. 3 LAST WEEK. Per Quirler. Corhile S. R, IO s. • VI S. • • 25 e 4 2.4 0.5 Y , 27 66 29 11 2 , 3 31 14) H.— —2., f47 24 Winchester 40 72 26 36 2.1 :it: Per ci:ishel. s.d. • s.d. Cantiarthen--. ,6 9 7 4 3 u 4 0 3 0 4 C Cowbridge 7 e s 0 4 2 0 2 6 3t: Newcastle (Staff.) 16 0 7 9 3 8 401 3 0 3 Nortliallerton 6 0 7 3 3 6 40 3 3 4 0 80 Rl3 40 4S 3+) 3.t' Swsnwei, Warwick !9O II 0 3(1 4C 20 3:3 Per Noll. ) arnarticastle 16 (3 20 0 8 0 9 (3, 5 4 6 Durham 1311 1.5 7 0 80; 5 3 79 Richmond 13 (3 17 071190 i 5 0 8 01 Stockton ISO 17 4 6 JO 61 5 4 6 0 tseara, Pease, to s. t 29 :'3 36 40 4 $. d. s..d. CO 00 Wu pp on 00 00 0. no 00 00 13 4' 00 00 76 110 tiff 90 90 P 0 10 0 0 WAKEFIELD CORN MARKET—JuIy I:. Waeat, Red, Nortoik and Suffolk ....F. 635. to —.9. fine 67t. ------ Lin. and 1:::111. Yorkshire a. —s. to r2+. fine I'6 . V/ hite . Foreign, tied —s. --... to —s. fine ..., White —s. —s. to —l. mie —s. Barley, Norfolk and Sulllslk Lincolnshire --- Yorkshire Wotd Foreign I:sans, Small 37. to 40, tine 42, -- Tick did, to Sila. tine 388, Oats, Potato 24s. to 2t1.. fine ts'Ss. Poland —a. 925. to 255. line 27e. Friezland and SinsP. —B. 18a. to 245. fioe lais. Mealing Shi.lling los. t. 32. Ikl. per load. Malt —% 354. tine 40s. per 1 .oad. Rapeseed SCOTCH MARKETS. Wheat. Barley. Oati. Beans. tlatzneal. Aberdeen 57 to Fe 26 to 27 20 to 21 —to 25 to at Berwick it i 5,) is 21 1)1 20 2t 45 :13 30 Coldstream Cupar (Fife' 4 50 126 3I I 4 22 22 1i _ Dundee ......... Elgin 5) 62 'a 30 t 0 9.1 ...t3 3: _ _ Inverness - Kelso ~ ..., 4 , 43 s‘t 22 24 14 19 28 is -. _ Kirkaldy 37 42 23 31 2u .‘Z) 43 48 4 43 .. Perth ..k:" - -, The sizz of the measure varies throughout the collo, ry. EDINBURGH CORN 3I_AI:IET.-_-July 4 : EDINBURGH CORN We had a very large supply of all kind, rather quick. Wheat. Barley. natl. Pen... First itis. fwd. 3:es 0.1 30s 8(1. 45:4. Otl t , ec0n.1....... tii o --0 27 4 42 0 Third - 0 e 5 0 41 0 Average price of Wheat l/ s 01. PitlCF:s OF rßovrsioNs, .+% c. Meer, per Ih. MA KET. Is of Grain to. .—Julys • -day, and th, ie sales we: e Bev , . Od 41 40 Os. 5.1. t,;11..7.1. Fresh llo;ter, IN.-- O. 71. to 4 I''4. 0 5 0 7 salt !mt..-.. ii 9 1' 10 0 6 0 9 Dato, per cat....... 81 II 90 0 3 ' 5 0 7 Eggs, per d0t..... ft ft ft 6 Lamb, per yr. —,.. 3 0 5 0 OatStraw(kp .).... 9 0 11 0 Tallow, cwt.......-37 n 40 0 Wheat Ditto ---10 0 I I 6 Puartern Loaf.... U 9 091 H ar l ey I litt9 __ 5 0 9 0 otatoes, 141 b. —.. 0 7 0 0 114 y. Herst.....— 0 9 1 0 • EDINZUR(II-1 MEAL MAIIKEI'.—JuIy3 There was a middlin: supply of Oatmeal at this day's market, and tho sales were ra' her heavy. Per Sack of 2141.5. [inn. Per Stone of 14th. In p. Fit st Oatine.:4 l S.4cond dim, B trleymeat I I I 0 Barley...eat .... O . I't 1 I .....aseiweal tot Barley—No. lOW, cwt, Ili.-2 1,14. ..4 , 0 .10 ..--ith, 15,.—P,.. I, • ) 0.. Pfilt GLASGOW CORN MARKET.—.I,.IS I. 4- - ' — "'N A moderate business doing In Orai.; little 'lteration in prices. ' , `.;2 ., ,,,,. Wheat, ~ er AGM. 5..1 5.51. ',at., per ..,:ti.,ir, .. .. ~. , I. v,i.,r British, old 0.20 to :is 0 Irish l7 0 t.' I 9 :1 near 4 „. - i5: 1 ,1 14 C marls, free IA J. 1.11 - - Parley, pvr 3,101 h, ;:i / it :ti,:ltisli 4A li ;rah 23 0 3.10 Fnirlish 7 ........... So)tti,tt E igliqh SI '.. !?2 0 Fear,e, S.. , ttish . 2.1 0 304) , Oaproe.ll, per 110 , 1 u z.:O 0 i h'kur, yet 2t4110. Fl ~~'v 2'o 2PI ... N 1 ;.:5 SECOND EDITION. SUN OFFICE, Sever, o' Clock LATER lAL PARLIAMENT, THIS DAY. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock. Mr. PEASE moved the third reading of the Hartlepool Dock and Railway Bill. Mr._ CAYLE4 opposed the third reading. He intended to have introduced clauses in Committee for the protection of the shareholders, but had been precluded doing so upon a point of form. As he could not introduce these clauses now, by the forms of the House, he must oppose the Bill. Lord DUNGANNON trusted the House would agree to the third reading. Mr. LANGDALE thought the Bill should be postponed. The SPEAKER said the parties, the promoters of this Bill, had given no notice at first. The Bill was then re ferred to the Standing Orders Committee, who gave the parties leave to proceed, on condition of giving notice, which notice was then accordingly given. The pe tition was for a different mode of raising money, which they were authorised by the former Acts to raise,—it was to this extent only, that the' notice went.—( Hear.) If parties were to be allowed to introduce clauses not included in their notice, it would be opening the door to great inconvenience —( Hear, hear)—because parties might then be taken wholly by surprise, as they would reasonably conclude that parties were to be bound by their notice.—( Hear.) This question, therefore, very seriously concerned the forms and orders of the House.--( Hear.) After a few words from Mr. PEASE, The gallery was then cleared, and the House divided, when there appeared, For the third reading 65 Against it Majority in favour of the Bill MIDDLESEX COUNTY COURT. On the motion of Mr. AGLIONBY, that the Middlesex County Court Bill be read a third time, Sir E. SUGDEN moved the omission of the 39th clause. Mr. AGLIONBY defende l the o:ause, which he said was common in all County Courts' Bill. Mr. FRESHFIELD and Mr. COURTENEY were against the clause. The !louse divided, and the numbers were— For the clause l5 Against it Majority against the clause —77 The clause was cowcquently struck out. On the next: clause being read, Sir E. SUG DEN objected to the cause. He thought the principle involved in it was ver y objectionable. Mr. A G LIONBY i mp l ore d the House not to be I , d away by the statement of the Right Hon. Gentleman. None of the clauses in his (Mr. Aglionbv) Bill were introduced in the p eseut measure—they were of a totally different character. The Bill then in his Committee related entirely to the power to be riven to justires, and the clauses under consideration related to the power to be given to a court presided over by a judge, who did not act Ministerially, but had power to hear nod determine all causes brought before it. He hoped the House would allow the clause to stand. After a few words from Sir E. SUDDEN, On the motion/16f Mr. FOX MACLE, the debate on tl.e remaining clauses was adjourned till to-no r ow. WESTMINSTER IMPROVEMENT. ~P ~l' S:r M. WOOD moved the second rending of this Bill. Mr. P. THOMSON slid the object of the Bill was uncl.-ulitedly laudable; but he objected to the mode by wltieh it sass prepo--ed to he effected—the taisirg 900,0001. by tontine. H, tint nnt Huu-e would sanetio ► sut:ll a p ,i„ c i p l e , Ii 1 , e , 5 .,,,s were de.irous to enter upon under t ikings eapital, let them rdse it among ae-nselvc , , 8111 not base re..-t.urse to a sehemc fee hocuspacnssiv people a t h eir money : and IL: hoped the [louse woul.l nut agree. to the 5.:c0.,(1 readieg. Sir M. WOOD said the respectable inhabitants; of West— minster. and the Dean and Chtiptcr, were %cry anxioua that the improvements contemplated by this Bill should tt.l: , place. if the tot.tine plan ore ohjectionalilc, it might be a:t-rcd in Commire.'. But the Government ought not at once to eppase a Bill, the ohjet of hie) um so important as t h e impeJvenient of a V're.i , cit y like Westminster. Lt.rd G. SOMERSET said his ohj , ction to this P.tll had r.r.t been temored. If the LegiiLlure tat determined on ;;;Aar with speculations such as lotteries, be thooght it ought uut to reco_tise a speculation for expending 93t) 000/. to ;Li.; master. Besides, there were eleven Members of this House who core Directors of this Company. S.r DE LAC EVANS said. tbvt althou.tli be sir ported this measure, he wvs no Director—he bad h;:en requested to he come one, but had declined d se.—( Hear. ) Lord G. SUM ERS ET explained. Mr. M•KINNON thought it unfair to lay down the prin epic, that because a Meni . oer ia as an hone• ary Director, la- , wing no interest or shares in the Company, i.e. should be pruhibitsd a rating. Mr. A. YATES sugg,estecl that the Bill should go into Committee, in old -r to make such amendments in -it as might be d,emed Mr. C. LUSH I NGTON had been a member of the P.°- visional Commit e, but he had declined to bec•onte a Director. because he thought it wrong for 31e:Ebas of that House to embarkin stv•hsi eculations. Sir E. SUGDEN ia;l7lso eirected Lis name to Le u ith drawn front the list of Directors. Mr. YATES explained that he also had directed his name to be withdrawn. S:r R. INC LIS would ack the Home what credit could be g Yen to a spi cula:ion from which three oot of the Mem bers present whose names were attached it as Directors, hail slated that their names had been published without their con currence ? Under all the circumstances of the case be could not agree to the second reading of the Bill. After a few words from Mr. P. THOMSO N, Sir M. WOOD withdrew the Bill. PAROCHIAL ASSESSMENTS BILL. Mr. SHAW LE FE VRE, in moving the second reading of this Bill, begged to state in a few words, the principle of the Bill. His object in introducing this Bill was to place the law relating to parochial assessments on a more sa tisfactory basis than that on which it at pr, sent rested. and also to put an end to that dissatisfaction which prevailed, owing to the introduction of a principle of rating lately, which had never be;ore been heard of. In the year 1830. the Pa rochial Assessment Act passed. The object of that Act was to procure an uniform rate throughout the whole county. The Honourable Member proceeded to quote at some length the case " Rex v. Joddiell." It had been laid down, he said, by the Judges that personal property was to escape rating. Doubts, however, existed whether the case of the King v. Joddiell was to be maintained. The Parochial Assessment Act did not conduce to equality cf rating ; the only good derived from it was, thae it gave a cheap mode of appeal to the special sessions, and plenty of appeals there would I e if this rating question was not settled. He was not consulted as to the introduction of that proviso, but those who were consulted understood that it should be in serted without the smallest prejudice to the landowner, and that it was open to bring the subject forward in the next Session. It was said that the clerical tithe-owner ieceived the amount which came to him as a rent. charge for the duties perfotmed, and that us that was a salary, he was to be exempt from rateage. He (Mr. L.) could not take that view of the matter. He always considered this as one of the most secure and valuable properties in the kingdom. It was better to the holder than any landed property.--( Hear.) If they introduced the new species of rate great dissatisfaction would be created in all the parishes of England ; and in the county which be had the honour to represent, the tithe-owners were rated at one-half while the occupiers were rated at the rack-rent. Such dissatisfaction had been caused by that mode of proceeding that all the benefits de rived from the Tithe Commutation Act would be counter acted, unless this House immediately interfered to remedy this difficulty.__( Hear.) He ventured, therefore, to ask the House to come to a speedy decision on this question, for if they did nothing in it, they would give the signal for litigation in every parish in England. Mr. GOULBURN was sensible how difficult it was to oppose any proposition coming from such a quarter. He would not have come forward to oppose the present measure, if he had not considered it to be inconsistent with the law for the commutation of tithes which had lately passed that House. The Bill was the more dangerous because it in a great de gree concealed the object it professed to have in view. lie had no wish on the part of the clergy to avoid any burden that might be ju s tl y cast upon them —all lie asked was this, that when the House called upon all classes to contri bute their proportion to the general burden, the clergy might not bo called on to contribute more than a fair proportion. Two years ago, the House had passed an Act for the Commutation of tithe 3 in England and Wales, and that Act was in the nature of a bargain which the present measure tended materially to alter. Every principal of good faith required them to anhcre to that arrange ment, and not impose an additional tax upon nhe clergy. The Bill was entirely different from the notice put upon the Books by. the Honourable Member, and from his speech it appeared that his intentions were different from both, Had he (Mr. G.) no other objection to the Bill he would cppose it, because the title of it had no reference to the matter it contained.---( Hear, hear, hear. ) It was called a declaratory Bill, but it was no such thing.--it was an enact ing Bill, and made a total change in the law of rating. The tithe-owner was the only one in a parish to whom no advantege was given by the Act, while it was proposed to exempt the landholder and the manufacturer from the tax. The principle of the Act of Eliz,beth, and every succeedine Act, was that ad parties should be equally ri,:ed. Th; average of the profits on a number of years might be made the foundation of rating. In the conducting parochial affairs there had certainly of late been great irregularity. If this Bill was passed, every clergyman would he taxed more than was just. Whatever might be the fate of the motion which he had to make, be thought when the Bill was sufficiently discussed, there was that sense of justice and good feeling in the ecuctry that would not ptrint it to rase The Learned Gentler - nail concluded by moving that the Bill be real a sacontl time this day three months. Mr. E. B ULLET: rose, and was (LEFT SPEAKING. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. -~:►- 110 USE OF COMMONS, JULY 10. Mr. lIUME hoped that he Wgtat be allowed to bring on the m.)lion of which be had given t,E:tici , , and which would put an end to the morning meeting.—Calear, hear.) did not know whether this was the paver time or not.—(Move.) It must be evident that the House would never meet in an evening after such a sitting as the present, and the business of the country would be impeded instead of forwarded by the present arrangement.—(" More!" and" Oh !") The Hon. Member was under stood to say, in conclusion, that he should bring on his motion at six o'clock. The Report on the Prisons (Scotland) Bill was brought up. COUNTY OF CLARE ADVANCE BILL. In Committee of the whole House, a resolution was moved em powering the Treasury to make certain advances to the county of Clare, in consequence of the defalcation of the Treasurer. Mr. GOULBURN thought the public ought not to bear the loss arising from the defalcation of an officer aprointed by thecounty, and who ought to have been compelled to furnish security for the amount that might be in his possession. Mr. O'BRIEN said the security was limited by Act of Parliament. Sir R. PEEL considered it was most unwise to pass such a Bill without enquiry. He objected to it, because the House was not acquainted with the circumstances under which it was granted, or what the amount of the security was, and for these reasons thought the principle very objectionable. Mr. LITTON instanced the case of the Treasurer of the county Tyrone, who was a defaulter to a large amount, and it was sub sequently recovered from his sureties.—(Hear, hear.) Unless the House was satisfied as to all circumstances of the case they should not consent to such a vote. From the absence of all explanation, he found there was something behind the curtain which required that explanation. Lord MORPETH, as it was was now past four o'clock, would post pone the vote. He had not anticipated any opposition, but he should be able to give the fullest explanation when the question was again brought under the consideration of the House. Sergeant J CKSON believed no hon. gentleman would impute any imprcyer motives to the noble lord; but the manner in which the whole affair was conducted spoke very little in favour of the system under which the business of the Government was carried on. Lord MORPETH understood that these unfortunate persons in the county Clare were absolutely in a state of starvation. He was satisfied that the matter would bear the strictest scrutiny. Mr. LYTTOIsT asked when this question had been first brought under the consideration of the Noble Lord ? Lord J. RUSSELL suggested the propriet3 of postponing any fur. ther discussion until the matter had been investigated before a Select Committee. Mr. O'CONNELL said a Member of that House had been one of the Treasurer's securities, and his estate had been sold to pay the amount of his bond for 7,0001. After a few worth from Mr. Sergeant JACKSON', Me CHAIRMAN reported progress, and asked leave to sit again and the House resumed. On the motion of Mr. ESTCOURT, the Vagrants' Act Amendmen Bill was read a third time and Passed. 'Re House th..n, at a Quarter-past Four, adjourned till Six o'Cloc:;.. RESUMED SITTING. The SPEAKFR resumed the Chair at six o'clock. Lord F. EGE RTON presented a petition, numerously signed by Clergymen of all parties, and other persons, praying for an alteration in the Beer Bill ; and one, to the same effect, from the Licensed Victuallers of Manchester and Sal ford ; also from Oldham. and other places, to the same effect. THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY, JULY 11, 1838. THE CAPE OF GOOD HOPE. Mr. G ADsT 0 N E rose to call the attention of the House to the netition from the inhabitants of Albany in the C a p e o f Gond Ilope, presented on the 15th June, and observed th a t the colony of Albany was founded as a frontier to our old colonies, for the purpose of warding off the danger appre hended from the occasional irruptions of the Caffietrlbes here_. totore bordering on the very limits of the old settlements. The country which these colonists bad inhabited had ob tained additions, which had teen known under the named of " ceded territory." and was peopled by British subjects, who had conveyed there their prope-ty, industry, and persons under the Government of Lord Charles Somerset and had to complain that faith had not been kept with them, with reference to the protection promised them, and the secu rity which they had been led to rely upon from the British Government,—(Hear, hear.) They had at different times made re:aresentations as to revere oss and injury suffered WI their frontiers from their barbarlous and hostile neigh hese reor-sentationF, they complained, had beet neJleeted hy the Colonial Government at licme, and their in terests so sac, ifierd, that the ceded territory (owl becti piven up to the C.iffa.! dominion, and those tr:bes now interfered ti ith the farrr•rs, to the injury and prejudice of the peaceable subyet; of Great Britain. Under these circumstances the eroutid held consequently gone out of cultivation, the prices for every necess a ry or life had beet, gr ea tly ra i se d , an d . w h at was the wort evil of all, the price of corn and meal had risen at !vast 301) per cont.-4 (!ear, hear. ) The conflicts between the Catl; es end these colonists had led to great 10-s cf cat.tle, vs well of human lire; and the consequence was that the Dutch boors who had settled in the colony were d i'ly leaving the protection ct the British Government. —(1 - 1par, hear. ) The Honourable Gentleman then concluded by moving that an Address by presented to her Majesty, praying her M-ij-sty to appoint a Commission to investigate on the spot the past and pri sect state of the relations of the eastern colonies of the _ Care of Good Hope and the Caffce tribes, and the h _e, t meant of vreventing the continuation of the recent immigration be yond the frontier. IRISH POOR LAW BILL. Messengers from the Lords here brought back the Po)r-law (Irt-iat.d) till' tht.irLordship's amendments. Sir GEORG E GREY—With reference t.o the. motion of the Hon. Member for Newark—had paid every attention to the statements of the petitioners to whom he had alluded, and he was quite ready to acknowledge that all the circumstances of the late Calf's, var required investigation and great consi deration.—( Hear.) With regard, however, to a Commission of inquiry, he did not see hose it could clear up the subject. I: appeare Ito him that it would be entirely useless—( Hear) —and the Govereinent had not Mt that they would be justi fied in granting it, especially when they considered that the ob• ject of such a Commission would be fully as well attained by the other 'twang which they had adopted.—( Hear.) An lion. MEMBER here moved that the House be counted, but there were upwards of forty Honourable Members present. end Sir G. GREY resumed. The Right Honourable Baronet :ben said tl.at all the necessary evidence on bith sides of the question had been produced, and her Majesty's Government trusted to th e p ru d ence, temper, an d perseve rance of General Napier, who b a d gone out to the C ape , to produce peace end order. Und er these circumstance. he was under the ne cessity of opposing th e mot i on of the H on. G ent l e man. The Henee thou divided, when the numbers were For the motion Against it Majority THE BEER BILL. Lord FRANCIS EG ERTON then rose to move for cer tain returns, and to call the attention of the House to the state of the law affecting the sale of beer. The Noble Lord said he had presented several petitions on this subject in the course of the evening, and if he again alluded to them more particu larly it was because he considered that the operation of the law relative to the sale of beer ought to be looked to both with reference to its effects in the large towns and the rural dis. tricts, in both of which, in his opinion, it was most • injurious to the com mun i ty.—( H ear, hear.) The professed o bj ect o f those wh o h a d pisse d the B eer Bill through Parliament , v i z ., the destruction of the brewers' monopoly, had not, he had every reason to feel assured, been effected—( Hear, hear, hear) —while the greatest evils had been produced upon the lower orders of society, every predi c ti on w i t h respect to the in. creased drunkenness and immorality it would give rise to among those classes, having been fulfilled to the letter. The Noble Lord then moved for " copies of any passages from pre sentments of grand juries relating- to the working of the Beer Bill in the years 1836, 1837, and 1838."—( Cheers.) Mr. K. SANDFORD seconded the motion. One of the beet-hou ses o f t h e lowest descri great evils o f t h e existing system was the creat i on o f small tion ; kept b men capital, a n d w h o o b tained credit from the p larg y e brewers for three-fourths o f t h e i r stoc k . As one means of o b v i at i n g the evil, it m i g h t b e advisable to provide that no man shou ld se ll beer wh o was net the brewer of it. The CHANCELLOR o f t h e EXCHEQUER was without p not yet convinced by any facts or any arguments that had been ' advanced, that an invasion of' the principle of the law, as it now stood, would lead to such an improvement in the morals Of the people as the Noble Lord and those who thought with him, supposed. He (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) bad always been of opinion that the measure of the Right Hon. Gentleman the Mernberfor the University• of Cambridge (Mr. Goulburn) which destroyed the o ld mo • uopoly nod opened the trade in beer, was ono of the wisest and most prudent Acts of the Legislature that he had ever in his time seen introduced in Parliament.—( Hear, h e ar.) He believed that the benefit conceded to the publi c by that l e measure was much grea t er t h an any l oss that might have be re sulted in a fi nanc i a l po i nt o f v i ew. —( Hear, hear.) lieeed, too, th a t th e re li e f w hi c h is afforded to a greater a e t r trade from vexatious int er p os i t i ons o f t h e excise was an great benefit. Ent erta i n i ng t h ese v i ews of the Beer Ac ,vehrey t for one, could never consent to an y mot i on, or an) pro • of which its principle might be w ea k ene d or endangere p d osition, did not relieve that it had been p ro d uct i ve o f so great * He an in crease of crime as had been stated. Mr. FAKING TON expressed his gratitude to the Noble - Lord for having brought this subject forwa r d. I t was almost impossible to overrate the seriously prejudicial effect whi c h t hi s measure had had upon the morals of the peopl e . Mr. H E could regard such motions a s t h e pr: sent only as meddling interference with the comforts of the p oor . ( Hear, hear.) He did not understand• why the poor man should not be allowed to drink his pint of beer where and when he chose, and where he could get it best and cheapest, whether within doors or without. It was melancholy • to see those who were in possession of the highest luxuries so nnxioua to deprive the poor of every little comfort. In his opinion they did not look high enough for the evil s o f which they complained. fie attrii.uted much of the crime to the want of education. Ignorance was the root of the evil. The people were brought up like brute beasts.—(Mur mere from the Opposition.) What education was given to them? Them were a few charities, but the people hail a right to be educated. They had as much right to education as th e y l i sd to a provision for the sustenance of the body. Ile begg e d the Hon. Gentleman opposite to inform him what education was afforded to three-fourths of the agriculturists? The Noble Lord said he had received information from, some one in London of the demoralisation caused by the Beer Bill. Would the Noble Lord state who that pasty way? li e ( M r. Hume) knew that the licensed victuallers had been very busy in getting up an opposition to the beer shops, and I I perhaps tne Noble Lord had had some corn nunicatioe with them. The Honourable Gentleman referred to some returns, f rom which it appeared that within a certain period, duting which 514 licensed victuallers had been charged b y t h e ids offence:, only 230 or 240 keepers of heer• shops had b e.t so chirged. He was prepared to show that the allegation that the morals of the peoelc were injured by the beer.shops wag quite unfounded. While they heard so much of the demoralisation of the pros, no msntion was msde of the iniceteitict of other classes. Who were the pat ties who disgracr cl themselves be gross m'seorittet :lout the period of tl.e Coronation ? Were they not Gentleineu and Noblemen ?—( Hear, bear.) He deprecated the dispo sition which exhibited itself year after year to meddle with the indulgence of the poor. Nothing bad for a long while pleased him more than the declaration of the Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer, that if they were driven to put down the beer-shops he should consider it necessary to take into their serious consideration the propriety of establishing a free licensing system, giving every man the power of taking out a license, subject only to certain police regulations. He should move to-morrow for returns, which would show a very different result from that anticipated by the Noble Lord. Lord DUNG.ANNON said that in his neighbourhood it was found that most of the crime that was committed was con certed in beer-shops. He trusted the return moved for would make out such a case as to induce her Majesty's Ministers to take the matter up. So strong was his impression as to the effect of the beer-shops, that he had strictly forbidden any man to sent such an establishment on his estate. —( Hear, bear.) Mr. WARBURTON thought if they bad a Committee to inquire respecting the conduct of the beer-shops, they ought to have a Committee of the labouring classes to inquire into the effect of the houses of entertainment generally. " Hear hear," and a laugh.) No doubt their report would be, that at clubs and such places there was much more drinking of champagne and other wines—that people spent time there which they had much better spend elsewhere--that there was not a little gambling, &c. He did not deny the necessity of police regulations, but let them apply equally. He thanked the Chancellor of the Exchequer for the course he had an nounced his determination to take with respect to this:question. Mr. DARBY said there was scarcely a respectable la bourer in the country that did not set his face against the beer shops. He deneid that the new beer-shop system was either a comfort or an advantage to the poor. Mr. HAWES said, the whole case, as it stood at present, rested on mere allegation that crime had increased since the new Beer Act had come into operation. Now this was a matter which ought not to depend on individual opinion, but upon facts • and he %yds prepared to show from authenti c do cuments that, so far from having increased, crime—he meant that species of crime which was said to result from the beer shops—had materially diminished within the last three years, especially in the counties of Middlesex and Surrey, where not only the population but wealth had increased, and the induce ment to crime also. The Honourable Member in corrobora tion of what he had stated read a calculation which had been officially made as to the state of crime during the last three or four years, and from this document it appaared that although forgery and some other crimes had increased within that period there had been a very considerable diminution of those crimes which were said to be engendered in beer-shops. He did not look to the repeal of the new Beer Law Act, or any other measure of the kind, for the moral improvement of the people ; but he looked for it in the diffusion of knowledge, and that extension of the suffrage which would oblige the upper classes to identify their own interests with the welfare of the poorer classes ot the community. Mr. SLANEY said, at present the beer-shop keepers were literally men of straw, and unless some system of rating as well as of licensing were adopted it would be impossible to 7ct resrectable persons to engage in this branch of trade. If the Noble Lord would restrict his motion to the improvement rather than to the extirpation of beer-shops, he would find a ready support from many Hon. Gentlemen on both sides of the House, which at pr,Fent he could not expect to.receive. Mr. M. PHILIPS ad nittr.d that - there were just grounds of con-plaint against the new beer-shop system, and it was his intention next Sesion to move fcr a Committee of It.quiry on the who' , suhicel. Lord INGESTRIE said that the beer-shops in' his part of the country had been productive of the worst possible conse quence;. They were the resort of the ill-disposed, and crimes of all kind were concocted in them. Mr. WALLACE said that if there had been no licensed victuallers they would never have heard a single complaint against the beer-shops. He contended that if evil exited, and he doubted it. that evil was to be got rid of by multiply inm the beer-shops ra her than by suppressing them. In was an exclusiveststemand not a free trade that generated evil. Mr. VILLIERS denied that the beer.liouses had been more productive of immorality than the licensed public-houses, and, therefore, if they w, re to put down the one, common jus tice required that they.should suppress the other. A'ter a few words from Sir JOSIAH JOHN GUEST, and Mr. BROTIIERTON, Mr. AG LIONB Y did not think tit It they had any evidence before them which would justify a Committee of Inquiry; but still he was obliged to the Noble Lord for moving for returns which, undo r any view of the case, would be valuable, inas much as they would sl:ow whether the evils complained of existed or not. He thought that it was a great advantage to the poor to be able to obtain good and wholesome beer at a cheap rate, and therefore, although he agree.' that some at tention should be paid to the character oti the parties keeping beer-ships, he hoped that Government would not deprive the poor of this advantage. Another Hon. Memsea, whose name we could not learn, said that in the part of Hampshire through which the raiway passed, the beer-shops bad given rase to no complaints ; and that. as to imoutati'ms against the Magistrates, they were alto gether without foundation. Mr. PARROTT said, that so far from the Magistrates of his part of the country finding fault with the New Beer Act. their opinion was, that it had been productive of very great benefit to the poor. Instead of paying 4d. or sd. a pot for beer, it was a great benefit to the labouring poor to be ebbe to obtain it fur OA. or 2d. ; and, therefore, even if there were some disadvantages in the present system, the advantages greatly preponderated. Mr. HINDLE Y agreed that the subject ought to be inves tigated by a Committee of that House. Lord FRANCIS EGERTON briefly replied, and the returns were ordered. BRITISH CLAIMS ON PORTUGAL. Lord SANDON said that some of the British claimants on the Portuguese Government had made out so strong a case to him in the support of their claims, that he felt it his duty to lay the matter before the House, and he should now do so under the impression, that it called for the interference of her Nlajests's Governinent. The Noble Lord said that the mo tion with which he meant to conclude was fur the production of a letter from Genetal Sir John Milky Doyle to Lord Howard de Walden, requiring his interference with th e G o . vernment of Do nna M ar i a f or the purpose of having the claims of those parties settled. The Noble Lord then a letter from a British officer, describing the sufferings of the claimants, and the manner in which their demands had been resisted by the Government which they had so materially served. The Portuguese Government, on various pretences, had got re ceipts from the men of the Legion, and were now giving these receipts as evidences against their claims. Commission after Commission had been appointed to investigate these claims without any good result ; and even the present Com mission, on which so much stress had been laid, was so fet tered by the Portuguese Government that it was likely to be as little efficient as the rest. Lord PALMERSTON could assure the Noble Lord, however, that the British Government had not been inatten tive to this matter, as our Minister at Lisbon had interested himself most actively, and had afforded every assistance in his power ; he frequently held communication with them, and but for him the present Commission would never have been appointed. He (Lord Palmerston) could assure his Noble Friend that he would not fail to pursue this matter, and that, what .ver influence he had should be exerted for the just es tablishment, and as early as possible, of those claims as was consistent with the resources of the Portuguese Government. After a few words from Lord SANDON, In reply, the motion was agreed to. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. Sir C. GREY rose to move—" That, notwithstanding the resolutions of the House on the 24th of November, 1837, or any other resolutions or orders relating to public business, any Member be permitted to fix the first day of the next Session on which Notices shall be entitled to the precedence of Orders of the Day for moving for the production of any papers." He should not regret the thinness of the House so long as he could express his grievance to the Speaker alone—(A laugh) —as he felt convinced that that Right Hon. Gentleman would not fail to remedy any grievance which should be satisfactorily proved. Mr. HUME said the object of the Hon. Member's motion was already attained, as that on the last day of the Session all Notices of Motion for the next were printed and published. The SPEAKER confirmed the statement of the Hon. Member for Kilkenny. After a few words from Lord MORPETH, Sir C. GREY consented to withdraw his motion. . The motion was then withdrawn. STIPENDIARY MAGISTRATES (IRELAND). Sir R. BATE SON moved for a " Return of all the Sti pendiary Magistrates in Ireland, specifying their names, sala ries, and emoluments, the date of their appointment, their re sidence, and the districts under their charge, and for what counties they hold commissions of the peace." Lord MORPETH had no objection to the production of the paper moved for, as he had no desire for mystery or con cealment. After a few words from Mr. Litton, Mr. Jackson, and Mr. Wallace, Mr. ELLIS had had a communication with the Lord Lieutenant of the county of Down, and having learned that the omission of Mr. Corry's name was still under the consi deration of the Government, he did not think that the proper moment for bringing the matter under the notice of Parliament. Viscount DUNGANNON advocated the return. The motion was agreed to. Mr. BROTHERTON then moved that the House be counted. but there being more than forty Members present, Mr. ELLIS moved for a return of the purchases of pro perty for the site of the new Houses of Parliament made by the Commissioners of Woods, &c., of the sums offered by the Commissioners to the parties, and of the sums awarded by verdict of a Jury and otherwise, and the legal expenses in curred by the Commissioners in each case, specifying the num ber of Counsel employed, and the fees paid to them; also the number of surveyors employed as witnesses, and the fees paid to cach of them ; and also the amount o f t h e costs paid by the Commissioners in each case to the opposite party. After a short conversation, during which the CHANCEL LOR of the EXCHEQUER opposed the motion, the Hon. Member withdrew ir. Mr. BROTHERTON again moved that the House be counted. Viscount DUNGANNON felt himsell called on to oppose tlin motion of the Hon. Member. The motion was wi , hdrawn. AFFAIRS OF OUDE. Mr. W. PR AED rose for the purp' se of calling the at tention of the House to a subjvct of much importance. At the 'love of last year the King of Oude. Nussur.od-decn Hyder, died, and upin his death a person who had for four scars previously been recognised as his son was appointed to the throne by the second %%ire of the late King. However, immedi a t e ly after the appoint:brut of this young person to the throne., cur tr.lops interfered. Thry oppos:d claim of the young Prince to the throne—they turned their artillery upon the Palace, and threatened that unless he and all his attendants left the Palace in five minutes, they would fire upon the Palace. The Prince and his attendants were not enabled to comply with the request in five minutes, and accordingly a fire was opened upon the Palace, by which it was said one thousand persons were killed. In other ac counts there was a smaller number named. The young Prince was then set aside, and a person put upon the throne in his place. The person who thus replaced the young Prince is the third son of the late King, and the second son of the King Akbaloo Dowlah Bahadoor is now in the British metropolis, claiming the throne which he asserted to be his right. The father was dead—the youngest son was dead— aud although the second son was living, the third son had been placed upon the throne. He (Mr.Praed) wished, there fore, to know what considerations induced the establishment of the third son upon the throne, and if it had any connection with a pecuniary claim which had been made a few years before upon the kingdom of Oude ? He had another ques tion to ask with reference to this change which had been effected, namely, whether it had any connection with a former despatch relating to the Government, or mis- Government, said to have existed in the kingdom of Oude, and also if it had any connection with an intention formerly said to exist,upon the part of the Government, to possess itself of the kingdom of Oude? He wished particularly to know if, in the regulation of the succession, any means bad been taken to secure the payment of those pecuniary claims upon that kingdom which were agi tated some time ago. He had shown that there had been considerable interference, that a Prince who had been recog nised for four years previously had been removed from the throne, that he had been replaced by the third son of the King whilst the second was still living; and he wished to know if this interference of the British troops had any connection with those subjects which he had referred to. The Honour able Member concluded by moving for a copy of any commu nication from the C our t o f Di rec t ors , or f rom any of the Com mittees of the Court, to the Governor-General in Council, whereby authority or instruction may have been given to the Governor-General, for the assumption of the Government of Oude, from the 30th of July, 1830, to the present time. Copies of all minutes of the Governor-General and members of Council in Bengal, and of all proceedings of the Governor- General in Council, and of all communications from the Go vernor-General in Council to the Court of Directors, and of all communications from the Court of Directors to the GOver nor-General in Council ; and of all communications from the Resident of the East India Company at Lucknow to the Go vernor-General in Council, or to the Court of Directors, relative to the death of the late King of Oude, Nussur-od deen-Hyder, and the steps adopted by the Resident of the Company for the regulation of the succession to the throne.— Copies of ell memorials addressed to the Governor-General in Council, to the Court of Directors, or to the Board of \ Commissioners for the Affairs of India, by any individual asserting a claim to the "throne of Oude, and the answers returned thereto.—Copies of all treaties negociated between the Governor-General in Council and the present reigning King of Oude. Sir J. C. 11013 HOUSE said that the Hon. Gentleman had correctly stated that the present Prince had been put upon the throne by the British Resident at Lucknow; but he could assure him that the rumours of the blood that was spilt on that occasion were most exaggerated, and that, instead of 1,000 then having been killed, the real amount was only thirty-five. The rrrxt point related to the claims of the Prince who was now in England. Into all the particulars of that point it would be useless for him to attempt to enter at that late period of the night.—( Hear.) From the papers, however, which he would lay upon the table of the House Hon. Members would have an opportunity of forming their own opinions upon that part of the subject ; and he could only say that, so far as he could judge from having lookel carefully into those papers, he had no doubt that the Prince now on the throne of Oude was the legitimate heir to that throne—( Hear)—and that he was designated by the Rs sident at Lucknow as the suc cessor to the late King. He could assure the Honourable Gentleman that, in the regulation of the succession to the Throne of that kingdom there had been no stipulation vilst ever made a; to the pecuniary claims to which he bad alluded, nor had there been any intention, by placing tile present Prince on the throne, to give to the East India Company any greater claim hereafter to the assumption of the territory of Oude. So far from the present Prince of Oude giving them any chance of taking possession of the remaining part of that territory, of which they had already nearly the half, such, he believed, was the character of that Prince, that, so long as he reigned, their chance of doing any such thing would be exceedingly small. He would now state what papers he would consent to produce. The only reason why he objected to the first division of the lion. Gentleman's motion was, that the papers to which it referred were wholly relevant to the conduct of the late King of Oude, and as they were instructions which had never been acted upon, their production could not possibly lead to any useful result. They were now a dead letter, and it would not be a good precedent to publish confidential communications between the late King and the British Government. As to any other of the copies moved for he had no objection, with one or two exceptions, to produce them. He ob jected to the production of' a copy of " all minutes of the Governor-General and Members of Council in Bengal," and of " all communications from the Governor-General in Coun cil, to the Court of Directors, relative to the death of the late King of Oude," for, as they related to matters that were now pending, he thought the Honourable Gentleman would not persist in calling for them. With respect to the words " any individual asserting a claim to the throne," he begged to say that he had in his pocket a letter from another individual, viz., the elder brother of the Prince, who was now in this country, and in which be put forth his claim to the throne of Oude.—( Hear, hear.) With respect to the copies moved for of " treaties negocisted be tween the Governor-General in Council and the present reign ing King of Oude," he would rather that the word " nego elated" should be altered into " ratified;" and, with these provisoes, he had no objection to lay the papers which the Hon. Gentleman required upon the table, and would only fur ther add that, if they should not appear sufficiently complete, he was sure that, in this affair, the East India Company, as well as the Government, both at home and abroad, had acted with the greatest moderation and propriety.—( Hear, hear.) Sir J. CARNAC confirmed the statements made by the Right Hon. Baronet with reference to the number of men killed on the occasion of the late succession to the throne. Mr. PR AE D expressed his willingness to accept the copies moved for with the modifications suggested by the Right Hon. Baronet opposite. Sir J. HOB HO USE replied that the document relating to his designation was dated before the death of the late King of Oude, and it was certainly not an after-thought of the Resi dent at Lucknow. Mr. PR AED asked if the Right Hon. Baronethad any ob jection to give him a copy of the despatch which related to it. Sir J. HO BHOUSE had no objection to produce that part of it immediately bearing on what he had just stated, but no more. The papers were then ordered as modified by the Right lion. Baronet. The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at Half-past One. HOUSE OF LORDS, JULY 10. The House assembled at half-past Three o'clock, when Lords De Morley (Mr. Ponsonby) and Carew were introduced by Lords Meath and Dinorben, when they took the oaths and their seats upon their elevation to the Peerage. Their Lordships adjourned during pleasure, and re-assembled at Five o'Clock. SPAIN. In answer to a question from Lord LONDONDERRY, Viscount MELBOURNE said no time would be lost in laying before the House the papers relating to the Spanish Legion. IRISH POOR LAW. Lord GLENGALL presented a petition from a place in Westmeath, against the Irish Poor-law Bill. Lord BROUGHAM enquired if there were any truth in the sta'emcnt that the Russians had taken Teheran. Lord MELBOURNE believed there was none, .but that the report had ori g inated from the takin g o f H era t. CRUIZERS ON THE SPANISH COAST. Lord BROUGHAM wished to call the attention of the House to certain orders which were supposed to have been issued by the Admiralty to certain cruisers on the coast of Spain, to prevent the access of any Sardinian or Dutch ves sels, supposed to be carrying munitions of war. He asked on a former occasion whether there was any objection to the production of such instructions, and was told to make a motion on the subject, and here he was at the desire of her Majesty's Ministers to do so. He felt anxious that steps should not have been taken which might tend not only to tarnish the character of the country, but in volve it in a contest adverse to its best interests—which might compromise England with foreign powers, and shake the peace of Europe and of the whole world. If the first ques tion should be answered in the negative, " have any such in struction been issued," away would go one-third of his ques. tion. If the second should be answered in the affirmative (the the first having been answered in the affirmative,)—" Have you made the regular notification of that to all neutral 'States?" if that (the second question) should be answered in the affirmative, much of what he would say on the third question was extinguished. But if both these questions were answered in the wrong way, then his third question was, " Can you produce to me the opinion of the adviser of the Crown in such matters—the King's Advocate—that this conduct is not a gross outrage and infraction of the established law of na tions ?" IF the third question were answered in the affirmative, then he (Lord B.) was at issue with that high law authority, and should be bound to confe, , a that the law of nations had unde - gone a total change—there was a new code of na tional law established ; and that which was formerly a breach of the law of nations, was now the law of nations.—(Hear.) He was in their Lordships' hands, and was unwilling to trouble them with a long speech, and would therefore wait to ace what answer he got from her Majesty's Government. Viscount - MELI3OURNE declined to give any answer to the questions of the Noble and Learned Lord. Lord BROUGHAM—When a person declines to answer a question which was clear to the meanest capacity, there could he no reason for such conduct but one, and that was that the answer mu,t be wrong according to his interpretation of it. He had, right then to assume that such instructions had been given; that no warning 'lad been given to other powers, and that there was no legal opinion to be produced for such a gross vio'at'on of the law of nations. He was dso forced to take for granted that we were at war, though it was not necessary that we should be so, though we ! , ide4 and assisted with one party. But even though we wcrc belliger eras, still we had no power to .top any one neutral power from trading, unless we had a com petent free, and used it so that no ship should any one day bc safe in entering any port or landing on the coast. Who ever heard of cne nation, tel . ause it happened to wish well to one of two parties, and was at war with neither, issuing an order to take all neutral vessels going to the assis tance of one of the belligerents ? Since time was and since men talked of belligerent rights and belligerent duties, or of the rights of neutrals, or the duties of neutrals— since the law of nations was used among civilised men, such a proceeding as this was without precedent.—( Hear.) This was not a light matter. In this case there were na belligerents in question. [A Noble Lord here. whispered "perhaps the instructions were confidential."l Lord BROUGHAM—They ought to have been confiden tial—they ought never to have seen the light at all. But a confidential order to a cruiser !_—not secret instructions— but an order to do what?—to stop the ships of one nation or another. Why, from the moment they were put in execution they became matter of notoriety to the whole crew of the vessel—(Cries of " Hear, hear")—and this led him to remark that they ought to have been published to the neutral powers—to Sardinia and Holland.—( Hear.) The vessels of these countries were laden with stores—nobody dreaming that it could possibly enter into any one's head to issue such a wild order—(Laughter)—and when they arrived on the Coast of Spain they were to be sent back—if they did not consent thus to frustrate the whole intention of their voyage, they were to be captured. He (Lord B.) was glad he had come forward to arrest the progress of the Government in this bad course, which was calculated to endanger the, peace of Europe. And he should deeply lament if satisfactory an swersnotspeedily happen withoutwe were apprehensionsnot returned to thatth eq mischief uestio questions begh might d put. He was in consequence of this order—for who knew what alliances ex isted between powers more powerful than Sardinia, or even Holland. Sardinia was a small power, but we had heard of de fensive alliances, and one was not improbable here. What if it should turn out that Sardinia had put herself under the protection of a powerful state? What it' Austria and Sar dinia had entered into any defensive alliance ? What if he knew such to be the fact? There was a defensive alliance which bound Austria to help Sardinia, and make com mon cause with Sardinia against any party with which Sardinia should be involved in war. Did he then go too far in saying this was a serious matter ?—( Hear.) It was possible that this alliance might have taken place since the instructions, but the date of the instructions would show that fact. Neither Austria nor Sardinia would be in the slightest degree to blame for having formed that defensive alliance, or for e o r en outrage materially e i r n i a l i l t y .. f k r e o e m pin an g t o •t if c e o n n a c ir e o ale o d ne ; , f b or en a a d n e se fensi self—it led to war, it began in the spirit o f aggress i on , was the v e l a a t l t l e h r e l e v e a s d a i ff n continued in aggression, and must accomplish its object by aggression. .He conceived that he had a right, unless strong reasons were shown to the contrary, to a production of these instructions, and should, therefore, move that an humble ad. dress be presented to her Majesty, praying her Majesty will be pleased to cause to be laid before the House a copy of instructions touching warnings to be given, or prohibitions to be issued, against the entrance into Spanish ports by the vessels of Sar dinia, Holland, or other neutral nations, and of any warning that may have been given to neutrals generally.—( Hear. ) Viscount MELBOURNE had declined to answer the question of the Noble and Learned Lord, not from any in ability, nor from any unwillingness, but from his intention, when the Noble and Learned Lord should make his motion, to submit to the cousideration of the House whether there were any grounds for the motion. He _knew that, of late years, there had been a great facility afforded for the produc tion of papers, much to the inconvenience of the public offices and greatly to the public expense; but he would submit that these papers should not be laid on the table of the House sir._ less some good reasons could be urged fur their pro duction. He would beg the House to consider what the ground and foundation was on which the motion of' the Noble and Learned Lord rested. It rested solely on an observation made by a Noble and Learneil Lord opposite (Lyndhurst). In the course of a former des bate the Noble and Learned Lord, in winding up his vev eloquent speech, said, " if it be so, as public report stews, public instructions have been addressed to our cruisers to stop Sardinian vessels carrying warlike stores to Don Carlos ; then it is more (using to good fortune than otherwise that we are not involved in hostilities which we should not fled it easy to cope with." This remark of the Noble end Learned Lord was founded on public report, and the motion of the Noble and Learned Lord was founded on that remark of the Nob]. and Learned Lord ( Lyndhurst)—( Hear, bear)—and he would. beg to atk was that a basis on which their Lordships would be pleased to do that which must of necessity manifest a jealousy of the Government to which the affairs of the country were committed, and must necessarily be in a high degree impoliti , , and inexpedient? He said that it was impolitic to mark 8 . ,), distrust, or suspicion, or jealousy of the actual Governielent which administered the affairs of the country. It was parti cularly impolitic to mark with any feeling of that deseziptiou the administration of foreign affairs.—( Hear, hear„) They might condemn the Government as they would—leL them re move it as scon as they were able; but in God's llama let them discover no doubt, no suspicion with respect to its relations with foreign countries. —( Hear, hear.) . T. do 'that would be to weaken and enfeeble, not only the Adminiv,cration and the whole Government of the country, but to weatien and enfeeble the influence and power of the nation in Eueope. Now, sup pose that something of this kind had :eked place —suppose that it had been successful—and suppose it bad been acquiesced it—was it right to state to foreign poteera that it had been called in question ? He would ask would it be prudent—would it be wise—would it be just to the nation ? The Noble and Learned Lord (Brougham) had gone with a great deal of length into the law of nations affecting the question of blocle ade, and on this point he had stated principles which he ( Vi s _ count Melbourne) had no doubt were just. Whether, hcaw ever, they were applicable could not he decided, unless the House should resolve to take under its own cognizance the: which was supposed to have taken place. The motion: vies entirely of a searching and experimental nature. It era first to inquire whether any instruction existed, and then, 'if they existed, to discover what they were. It did appear to ?aim that no ground whatever had been made to induce their Lordships to enter into that inquiry, or to agree to the preduct ion of the papers. He did not say whether the facts assumed by the Noble and Learned Lord were well founded or not, or whether the principles he had stated applied to these facts; but as Ile conceived that it would be highly imprudent to accede to the motion, he should on that ground offer it his most strenuous resistance.—( Hear, hear.) Lord BROUGHAM said that the Noble Earl at the head of the Admiralty had said " That he confessed that if the circumstances which were stated to have taken place, had taken place, he should have so instructed them " (the cruisers). He should wish to go to the jury on that statement.—(Hear.) Earl RIPON thought that the Quadruple Treaty was at a wise measure ; but be would deny that the additional articles,. signed a considerable time afterwards, were any necessary part of that treaty. It was already a perfect instrument in it self, and he could not see why they were to risk a war with all Europe to support the Government of Spain. If his Noble Friend said that the public service would be injured by this production of this document, he should not be d'isposed to press for that which in their responsibility they were disinclined to give; but he must say that not one word had 'been said in the shape of a reason on that point. He certainly felt that those instructions bad been [issued; and that they had never been acted upon or enforced against any penver whatever.— ( Hear, hear.) The Earl of MINTO said that he thought no reason bed 'been advanced for the production of these papers. The mo tion seemed to be nothing more nor less than a fishing mo tion—(Hear, hear)—first for the production of papers, and, then to see what could be made out of them. Assuming it tat be true that such instructions were issued, he believed it wes the first time any demand had been made by Parliament for contingent instructions—f or a prospective arrangement made by the Government to meet dangers which they might appre hend—the demand, too, being made at the time when this dangers had passed off. The statement of the Noble mil Learned Lord appeared to be nothing more nor less gifts as complaint against the Quadruple Treaty, to which treaty the: Noble and Learned Lord himself was a party, and a corn • plaint that it had been too faithfully observed. Now.. the first article related to the introduction of warlike: stores. From that it might very easily be inferred what the pricipal object of the Spanish Government was. The words in the treaty were—‘ , His Majesty the King of the United Kingdom of England and Ireland engages furnish hc. (ba by employing intercepting rn p o a n n ) n e w r a e s ounupo thelptd Catholic Majesty with arms, stores, and such munitions of wee as she may require, and to assist her Majes,ty, if neeesSat7,. with a naval force." In n c c i n i ar a rt r lh g o charge s coast?th a t Tohfes obligation pNaoinbea n Earl h ab a r w y n l ae E sp f u o aa g r er e l tn a y e t e tdtooon Don'd tti additional article : but the Noble and Learned Lord was se party to it. He (the Earl of Minto) would ask bow they could afford assistance if, seeing Spain invaded with artneell ships, for that was the present hypothesis, coming with anew. and men to act in conjunction with Don Carlos, they wen to turn their backs upon their allies in the hour of need, a n cd at the time, too, when we were called upon to act up to the obligations of the treaty ? He could not at all understa eat how they could be released from these obligations. The treury might be right or wrong ; but if there was one thing more remarkable than another for which this country was (Estin -- guished, it was the fidelity—the more than fidelity--witla which it observed the obligations of Treaties. The No'ole and. Learned Lord dwelt upon the law of neutral powers e.nd blockade. He (the Earl of Minto) did not understand that the Government was supposed to have issued any osdere established a blockade. What he understood th he c !. waso that there being a suspicion that S ar di nia was about to arg make an invasion of Spain, orders had been given to the cruisers on the coast of Spain to take measures to prevent the invasion. Lord BROUGHA M had never • dan • 'on mentioned invasion. He had merely said Sardinian vessels with naval stores aria arms. The Earl of MINT O said that his statement was that_ if he had seen any other power about to invade the dominions of Spain, that in such a ease he should not have hesitated to issue instructions for the execution of the Quadruple Treaty_ It was said that this construction of the Act was likely to era • danger us with foreign States. The Noble add Learned Lore. said, " What if Austria should come to the assistance of Sar • dinia 2" Now, if there were any treaty which could justi'r Austria in such a proceeding it went against th) N,ble au( A Learned Lord's motion, for the treaty under which we acte was much more obligatory than any general tr,m/y. (lied r. hear.) I t h ad been his (the Earl of Matto's) system 1 0 nu ,ke a little political distinction in the selection of otfi;..rs for h'4l and important communds. If it were necessary he wont( merely mention the names of a few with. whom he CO:TeS• ponded with as much security as if they h t t balont,red to ht, own party—Sir R. Stopford, Admiral R tss, S r G Colburn, Sir P. Halket. and L ,rd John fit . (Il tit r, h J ar.) Lord BROUGHAM hat hid n) corn - n t lea ion with any naval officer. His Noble L iced ( Lard Lynd hurst) had mentioned a num) t:t him, bat it tv is oF a pf 3 so-3. who had never belon,Tni to the s a serv.ce.