The Sun. — London, England, 1838-03-28 00:00:00

their receiving relief from their Institution, for they were eating but own, and were not living uon chrit y. No one rinchec..„ w the lot of makind. He had seen me a n of influence, and property, who had been humbled by the stroke of c .ortune, and not h av i ng ma d e arrangements had b een of to go to parish relief or to the public purse. He hoped they had arrived at the day when the public purse would be applied to other and better objects.—( Cheers.) If there were poverty among the Peers, let the Peers support them , selves, in the same manner as if there were a distressed Coffee house keeper belonging to that Association ; he would be as sisted by his fellows. He might, perhaps, speak strongly on that subject, but he felt strongly. He was only giving expres sion to feelings which he had expressed now for 30years. He had been now for 15 days upon the Pension Committee, examining the eases of those who had been burrowing upon the public. lie viewed with the greatest satisfaction the proceedings of the present meeting. It was to him one of the happiest moments of his life to be in attendance that day, for he eaw around him his fellowmen engaged in the cause of tem perance and sobriety, and determined to work out the best results. He had been requested, before he sat down, to pro pose a toast—it was,that he was sure every person present would join in—it was one he was sure every one would admire; and why, because the toast he had to propose was, " The spread of civil and religious liberty over the whole world.—(Tre mendous cheers.) The worthy CHAIRMAN trusted that the time was not far distant when the wish expressed in the toast would to the fullest extent be accomplished, and that civil and religious liberty would be triumphant. The Chairman then proposed the health of Mr. Ewart and the visitors who had honoured them with their company that evening.—( Cheers. ) Mr. EWA RT rose for the purpose of returning thanks amid ;t very loud cheering. The manner in which he had been received that evening was highly flattering to him anti compensated for any disappointment that, he had hitherto received. A toast had been put into his hands, which he felt conferred upon him a great honour—that toast was " The London Press," without which their feelings and sentiments were stifled. —(Cheering.) It was to the Press of the country that all the improvements in society were to be traced.— (Cheers.) Look at the Press of Liverpool, the town that he for nearly seven years had had the honour of representing in Parliament. It had sprung from almost nothing, and yet look at the weight it had now in public opinion --( Cheers.) The Press of Liverpool had now become, with the exception of London, one of the most influential in the. empire. If such results had taken place in that town, what was be expected in the whole'country ?—(Cheers.) The in.' s stitution of the Coffee and Eating-house keepers, with its various benefits, was, in his opinion, agreat progress in society. To whom was the institution of that Society to be attributed —to the Press, and to the Press alone.—( Cheera. ) The in fluence of the Press had been exerted in its behalf" and that exertion had been attended with success— " Si qux:is monumentum, eircumsplce." The public opinion was also with them, and he must confect that nothing gave him greater pleasure than attending there that night, for the purpose of furthering the objects the Society had in view. The Hon. Gentleman, after passing a high eulogium on Mr. Young, and his exertions in advocating the cause of liberal principles, concluded by proposing his health, and the prosperity of the London Press. ( The toar,t was received with loud and long-continued cheering.) Mr. YOUNG rose to return his most sincere thanks for the enthusiastic manner they had drank his health in con nection with the Press of the country. It was unnecessary for him to say a word about the Press after the eloquent speech which they had just heard from the honourable gentleman who had proposed his health in so kind a manner. He was not much accustomed to public speaking, and would much rather write a good speech than speak a bad ono.—(A laugh.) He was sorry that a pressing engagement had taken him out of town, which had prevented him appearing among them earlier; and from the specimens he had heard since his arrival he was certain he had lost many good speeches. He was, however, glad to see so many present on that, the first annual meeting of the Institution—in an hundred years hence, by the spirit of perseverance which he had no doubt they would show, they would equal the Licenced Victuallers, if not far surpass them.__( Loud cheers.) There would be no jealousy between the two Institutions. They are a Society of drinkers--you are a Society of thinkers.—( Loud cheers and laughter.) The trade of the Coffee-house-keepers greatly promoted thinking and reflection, two things which invariably tended to the improvement of the public. The more gentle men drink in their society the less capable aro they of think ing, though they add much to their profits; the more your customers are with you, the more their minds are improved ; there can be no jealousy, and they can only feel proud that they have made you to follow such a noble example. He had the honour of subscribing to the Licensed Victuallers' Association, as he believed all such institutions tended to the public good. With the same feeling he had contributed his mite to the Coffee and Eating-house Keepers Association, with the wish and the hope that many more connected with the public Press would follow his example. A worthy friend of his ( Mr. Anderson, of the Morning Advertiser) whom he hoped to have had the honour of introducing that evening, along with himself had been perforce detained down at Kingston hearken ing to the speeches of Learned Counsel, instead of being there enjoying themselves in such good society. He urged them to persevere in the good cause they had so nobly under taken ; perseverance would command prosperity. He stood before them an example of what perseverance could do. The . "tY practice of their business led them to disseminate infor 11141io ; and though he might be supposed to be speaking in terestedly, still he would strongly advise them to support those Papers which supported good principles. —( Cheers.) Let th em only support those Papers which advocated the greatest good for the greatest number.—( Cheers.) All were selfish 10r what other principle had actuated them in assembling there that day, save that of providing for themselves in old age or want. Let them all hear in mind the fable of the Bundle of Sticks, they were now starting from small beginnings—ho could not better exemplify his meaning than by quoting the lines of a celebrated poet, who said " Self-love but serves the virtuous mind to wake, As the small pebble stirs the peaceful lake : The centre moved, a circle straight succeeds; Another still, and still another spreads; Friend, parent, neighbour, first it will embrace ; His country next; and next all human race ; Wide and more wide the o'erflowings of the mind Take every creature in of every kind." (Loud and long continued cheering.) No doubt they would an b e happy to take in as many customers as they could, and the more they want the better for them. Take in good Papers, hi order to make your customers good citizens,— (Cheers.) He begged leave again to return them his sincere t.haillis fo r t h e honour they had conferred upon him, and sat down amidst loud cheering. The CH AIRMAN then proposed the health of the Vice-Pre- Mr sidents and C ommittee. . DEACON returned thanks. The CHAIRMAN then proposed " Prosperity to the City of London." Mr. WIRE, as a Member of the Corporation of London, felt bound to return thauks for the honour that had been conferred u P a him. He felt greatly the great good that was to be te a t ected by the S oc i ety o f C offee-house Keepers, and he trusted t that Society would succeed to the extent of their greatest expectations Their cause, although at first received by a frest had now been met by the cheering rays of the mid- day 4111-- -( Great cheering) —and he trusted that those cheering I:;;Vs would enlighten it to the end.—(Cheers.) It would be ' l l taste in him to detain them longer, but ho felt bound to congratulate them that upon their first anniver rtrY they h a d so great a philanthropist in the chair i s only a part of his benevolent efforts, in which he is daily eßho ngaged.—( Cheers.) That was one of the rewards of a man in looking around, saw the fruits of the efforts he had made ; he thanked them again for the honour they had done the Cor poration of L on d on, and ho assured them that that Corporation as ever alive to any thing by which the community entrusted to their charge would be benefitted.—(Laughter. ) He hoped to live and see that Institution flourishing, and rivaling the In stitution to which frequent allusion had been made (the Li censed Victuallers) ; he had some connection with that Asso ciation, and he could state, from pereonal knowledge, that the feeling entertained was not that of jealousy, that that Institution would bold out the band of fellowship in good works, and welcome all their efforts in the cause of charity; there would be nothing but a spirit of generous rivalry between the two Institutions, each endeavouring to outvie the other in the amount of good which they could do. The Hon. Gentlemen resumed his seat amidst loud cheers. The CHAIRMAN—The round of toasts which had been pre 'Pared for their adoption by those who had so ably and agree ably arranged the order in which they were to be given had !low been nearly gone through. He found one toast remain.. 4 aer, Which co u ld no t b e om i tte d, an d h e f ou nd one other w hi c h ,'ad been added—be thought they could be very conveniently 4 itt oi ned• The t oas t w hi c h h e h a d t o propose was the health o f r. Northhouse, the Parliamentary Agent of the Association, ad the d onors to the Institution. H e h a d no t th e h onour of kno wing many of the individuals who had distinguished themselves by making grants for so benevolent a purpose-- (Hear)—neither had he the pleasure of the acquaintance of istheir Parliamentary ag ent, but he had no doubt that he was 'loth abl e and active, or he would not have obtained such an t7 P°int , m enr. He had, therefore, great pleasure in proposing 0 health of M r . N ort hh ouse an d t h e D onors to the Institution. ir e toast was drank with three times three and cheers. NORTIMOUSR briefly returned thanks. Having had t o Z r a so PP,le lyith monopolies before, he felt more than a mere pro -t nal interest in the cause which they had entrustei to him. had little doubt of the oppressive coal monopoly being B , l k ) Fdily broken up.—( Cheers.) Not by the Lord Mayor and toermen who, upon this subject, could not for shame ae (ll,n the eulogies of his Learned Friend (Mr. Wire)— p a tt i t hter)—but in spite of them. Not by Parliament, for . r . Jament cannot force people to sell whether they like it or r't, but by the people themselves.—( Cheers.) They would soon 'Mr more upo n t hi s su b ject, here h e s h ou ld not d well upon i t. rived or not auth or i se d b y M r . Young—but whether autho thatu or not ;vas of no matter—he was happy to inform them thth at gentleman, in addition to his splendid annual sub relPtico, had requested to be permitted to pay the whole of e sne e ; l P,eases of their Parliamentary proceedings, the more (6 re e latlY as he had first invited them to conic forward.— i fte at Cheerin g. ) He could not sit down without congratu d ‘ ln g the on their Chairman, whole whole life had been their t -0 promote the education of the people,.to elevate lo w . me ntal, moral, and social condition—to raise t. - iem from b e in a nd brutish animals to high-minded and intellectual gB3 `- adV4nein g " from glory to glory "—disdaining " To rest their heaven aspiring wings Men w lae neath thei r nat i ve quarr y." and nieo knew their ri g hts, " and knowing dare maintain, ,, i n f amou s too, wh o a l so k new t h e i r d u ti es , for it was a f a l se an d Poa e d _ I calumny on popular education, to assert that it indis eallan nferiors to perform their duties—Scotland gav e th a t nY th e lie—Scotland, the best educated people in the THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY, MA. CEL 28, IR3B ELECTION COMMITTEES. (YESTERDAY.) (From our Second Edition of last night.) S H A FTE SHUR Y. The Committee had not come to a decision alien they ad. journed. HULL. The Committee met this morning at eleven o'clock. Edward Stephenson was the first objection gone into. It appeared from the evidence of Thomas Padley, that the voter told him he had received two sovereigns for his vote from Mr. Charles Hammond.—Vote struck off. William Cooper, of Stoneferry, was next objected to. Thomas Adamson deposed, that the voter had died since the last election—that in the course of conversation with him in September last, he stated that he had received a suit of clothes and is. from Mr. Charles Hammond, to vote for the Blues. Vote struck off. The vote of John Savage was next objected to on the ground of his having received a bribe from Mr. Dryden, solicitor. The voter was examined at great length, as to a transaction which had taken place about the time of the elec tion in, 1835, when the voter being in difficulties, cam e i n cola_ tact with Mr. Dryden, who paid the amount of his debt and costs taking a note for the amount. A few days bofore the late election, the voter met Mr. Dryden in the street, and came to an understanding with him that if be gave his rote fo r th e Bl ues he would hear no more of the Bill. Towards the latter part of the year, however, a distress was put into his house, and his goods were sold. Mr. Rollit, clerk to Mr. Dryden, was then called, and con tradicted the voter in several statements which he had made. The examination had not concluded at Four o'clock, wh en the Committee adjourned. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, lITARcm 27. The Gallery was not opened to-day till twenty minutes past Four o'clock, in consequence of the Ballot for a Commit tee to try the merits of the Kinsale Election Petition. The Gallery was then cleared that the Ballot on the Wor cester Election Petition might proceed ; but the order was eventually discharged, and no Ballot took place, as the parties did net appear. On re-entering the Gallery we found Members presenting petitions against Negro Apprenticeship. GLASGOW WATER WORKS. Mr. CHALMERS gave notice of a motion for to-morrow, to refer the petition presented by Sir J. G. Craig respecting the Glasgow Water Works Bill, to the Committee on that Bill. IGLASGOW WATER MONOPOLY. Mr. DENISTO UN presented a petition signed in the short space of three days by above 30,000 of the inhabitants of Glasgow against the Glasgow Water Works Bill, as a mea sure to create an oppressive monopoly in the supply of water, and place the community of that great city on short allowance of diet most important necessary of life, instead of a constant supply which the inhabitants have enjoyed for the last thirty years. The Hon. Member also presented petitions from the Glasgow Board of Police, the Magistrates of Anderston, the Magistrates of Gorbals, the Police of Gorbals, John Birkmyre, of the Glasgow Police Board, and John Boyle Gray and John Douglas, against the Bill. BELFAST WATER WORKS. Mr. AG LIONBY presented a petition praying for an ex tension of time till the 2d April for the bringing in of the Belfast Water Works Bill.—Agreed to. KINSALE ELECTION. The Clerk of the Committee appeared at the bar with the amended list of the Committee appointed to try the Kinsale Election Petition, which is as follows :—Henry Gally Knight, W. A. Mackinnon, Hon. W. B. Baring, Charles Green away, Sir T. Dyke Acland, Sir John Walter Pollen, Peter Ainsworth, Kedgwin Hoskins, T. W. Chichester, Sir C. R. Blunt, James Power. world, furnished the most obedient, orderly, and industrious domestics in the world.—( Hear.) He did by no means de preciate the superior candour of the English character, and en thusiasm of the Irish, but hoped the period would arrive when all would be blended together.--.(Cheers ) He congratulated them also on having been honoured with the company of Dr. Lardner, inasmuch as, if Dr. Birkbeck had the high merit of being the father of the Mechanics' Institution of the Kingdom, to enable the operative clrsses to read and study, Dr. Lardner had been the greatest producer of works for their perusal and improvement that the world had ever known. As Dr. L. was then out of the room, he might without indelicacy say that Dr. Lardner deserved their highest admiration, for ho had written or edited, and caused to be issued, upwards of half a million of volumes for the improvement and enjoyment of his fellow creatures.—( Great cheering.) He concluded by cordially thanking them for the honour they had done him.—( Cheers. ) The CHAIRMAN, accompanied by the visitors, then retired. Mr. HCMPIIREYS, the President of the Institution, was called to the Chair, and said that they had forgot one most important toast. They were all aware that they could scarcely carry on their business without the aid of their wives and the female sex ; he, therefore, proposed the Ladies. Drank with all the honours. After a most pleasant evening, the company separated shortly after Twelve o'Clock. THE VICTORIA STEAM SHlP.—Yesterday even ing an inquest was held by adjournment before Mr. C. J. Carttar, the coroner for Kent, and a jury, at the Mitre Ta vern, Greenwich, on the bodies of William Allen, the engineer of the Victoria steam-ship, William Thompson and Thomas Walker, the assistant-engineers, and George Brock and Jo seph Robinson, stokers on board the same vessel, and the im mediate cause of whose deaths was the dreadful scalding they received by the bursting of one of the boilers. After a long but uninteresting examination, the jury returned the following verdict :—lt is the unanimous opinion of the jury, that the de ceased persons came by their deaths in consequence of the bursting of a boiler on board the Victoria steam-ship, of Hull, and the jury wish to express the high satisfaction they feel at the conduct of Captain Bell, as also of the owners, for the manner in which they have brought up witnesses, and the pains they have taken to fully elicit the truth." DREADFUL ACCIDENT.—On Wednesday, two in furiated bullocks escaped from a drove, and ran through this city, to the great consternation of the inhabitants. In St. James's churchyard, they attacked a very aged man, named Mitchell, who was returning from dinner, whom they gored, and threw twice into the air with great violence ; the poor old man, whose thigh was fractured, his cheek torn open, and eyes seriously injured, was conveyed to the infirmary by the police. The same animals afterwards threw down a girl and two chil dren, and gored a poor fellow, who was employed on the quay in carrying coals on board the Torridge steam-boat. —Bath Guardian. Mr. John Barnett, the popular composer, has just arrived in London from Frankfort-on-the- Maine. He has completed a new opera, to be called Farinelli, in which several interesting passages from the life of that extraordinary singer are introduced. It will, no doubt, be produced at either Drury-lane or Covent-garden in the course of a few weeks. On Sunday last, between 3,000 and 4,000 remark ably fine,mullet were inclosed in one sean at Whitesand Bay, near the Land's End, and afterwards sold at Penzance for 6d. each.— West Briton. VILLAGE LIBRARIES.—It is gratifying to the friends of the " Diffusion of Useful Knowledge" to observe the increase of these valuable institutions in every part of our country. The rural districts of Cumberland are now becoming more generally supplied with them. Sir Wilfrid Lawson, Bart., has lately presented a handsome donation of books to the library which is now being established with a Sunday school at the Grove Chapel at Ravenglass , and other gentle men, we understand, have been making similar contributions. Carlisle Patriot. EXPLOSION AT A POWDER MlLL.—Last week one of those frightful occurrences against which no human foresight can guard, and which seem as if expressly intended to mock the devices of human prudence, took place at Stobs Powder Mills, belonging to Mr. Caldwell, a few miles from Edinburgh. About half past six o'clock on the morning of Wednesday, half an hour after the workmen had assembled at the mills, they were alarmed by a loud explosion ; on the pre mises, the fearful import of which they too well knew. It was found to have proceeded from one of the corning houses, where the powder undergoes the process of being separated into par ticles or " corns" as they are termed in Scotland, which is nearly the finishing process in the manufacture. In this house there were about twelve barrels of gunpowder, each barrel containing 100 lbs.. ? and two men, named West and Robertson, were engaged in the manufacture. On the rest of the workmen coming to the spot, the house was found a complete ruin, scarcely a particle of it being connected together. The first search made was of course for the two workmen ; and the most melancholy forebodings were soon realised—the body of West was found at some distance from the house, whither he had been blown by the force of the ex plosion. Robertson was found within the house itself, and was still breathing when discovered ; but he died before he could be removed. It would appear from this circumstance, that whatever the cause of the accident might be--and the fate of the unfortunate sufferers, as in all such cases, must leave that in perpetual doubt—the explosion must have taken place near where West was occupied ; and that Robertson, from his position, mast have been comparatively only partially affected by it. When found, their bodies, as might be sup posed from the nature of the accident, presented a shocking appearance. The property destroyed is also of considerable value. —Edinburgh Courant. On Monday evening, a few minutes before seven o'clock, a daring robbery was committed on the person of the Rev. Felix Norton, residing at Chelsea, who was returning from Paddington to Chelsea, through Hyde Park. When he arrived about the middle of the Park he was met by three foot s^ldiers (belonging to the Guards), who pretended to be in toxicated ; one of them ran against the reverend gentleman with such violence as to knock him down, when the other two fell over him, at the same time riflin g his watch pocket o f hi s gold watch and sea l s , w i t h which they effected their :escape. Mr. Norton, from the darkness of the evening, could not tell to what regiment they belonged. On Monday afternoon, as the Bishop of Win chester was riding at a quick rate along the Strand on a high spirited horse, the animal suddenly shyed at a waggon that was passing, and from the suddenness of it his Lordship was unfortunately thrown with great violence to the ground. His groom immediately rode up and secured the horse before fur ther mischief occurred. Assistance was promptly rendered, and his Lordship, at his own request, was conveyed to the King's College, where he was immediately attended by Dr. Todd, one of the Professors of that institution. After every possible assistance had been rendered, the Bishop was re moved in a coach to his own residence. The injuries, though serious, are not of a dangerous description. We regret to learn that, so destructive has the late winter been to the wheat plant in many districts, that large breadths have been ploughed up, and the land devoted to other purposes, from the utter improbability that a crop of wheat would be obtained.— TVercester Herald. Yesterday morning, between eight and nine o'clock, a labouring man, named Charles Bennett, was crossing the Liverpool-road, Islington, when a led horse that was passing by suddenly kicked out and struck the unfortunate man with such tremendous force on the back of the head, that the lower part of his skull was fract ure d i n a d rea df u l manner. He was conveyed to the University College Hospital, and no hope is entertained of his recovery. DEATH OF ATTWOOD THE COMPOSER.— Thomas Attwood, the celebrated organist of St. Paul's ca thedral, and composer to the Chapels Royal, is no more. He expired at his house in Chelsea on Saturday last, in his 71st year. W. Knyvett is spoken of as his probable suc cessor to the situation of organist at St. Paul's, and Mr. H. R. Bishop as composer to the Chapel Royal. The former, we believe, is in the gift of the Bishop of London, and the latter is in the appointment of her Majesty. Mr. Sale has been appointed one of the organists to the Chapel Royal (Sir G. Smart is the other). On Tuesday a public meeting of the inhabitants of Bath.was held at the Assembly Rooms for the purpose of adopting a petition to Parliament for justice to the Irish Ca tholic 3 in promoting education. The meeting was one most distinguished for the number and respectability of those who attended, for the eloquence of those who addressed them, and for the unanimity and order which prevailed uninterruptedly for a period of four hours. The conduct of our present Ministry towards the long-suffering Irish people has been such as nothing but inveterate prejudice can oppose.—Bath Journal. There is now living at Hildghausen, in Silesia, a man named Hans Hertz, of the extraordinary age of 142 years. He has not gone over his threshold for 17 years, and the only exercise he takes is to walk two or three turns round his room in a day. When the weather is fine he opens his window, and smokes one or two pipes. lie had not spoken for six years, but communicates his wants by inarticulate sounds, which are understood only by those who are constantly in attendance upon him. All his children have been dead many years, and he is taken care of by his grandchildren and great grandchildren. We have the following American jokes from Phila delphia direct, b u t w ill not answer for their novelty :—A very absent gentleman at Philadelphia, in a fit of abstraction lately put his candle to bed, and inadvertently blew himself out. Another person, accustomed to wear spectacles, by chance placed them over one of his ears, and positively walked three miles sideways before he discovered his mistake. The largest oyster ever seen was recently exhibited at New York. I . took three men to swallow it wh ole. —Literary Gazette. On Saturday morning, between six and seven o'clock, James Fielden, of Henry-street, Canden-town, green grocer, was returning in a cart from Corent-garden market, when he was thrown out by the off-wheel coming in contact with the wheel of a cowkeeper's waggon ' • he was run over by the near-wheel of his own vehicle, and had his ribs and chest bone crushed in a dreadful manner. WEATHER IN THE COUNTRY.-- A fter a week or two of more genial and spring -like weather, we seem again to have gone back to some of the rigou rs o f w i nter ; for on Saturday last we had snow, with the thermometer indicating 28 degrees for its minimum during the previous night. During Saturday night the mercury had gone down to 25 degrees, and all the pools of water were frozen over. On Sunday night the minimum was 29 degrees, and since then it has stood higher till Thursday night, when we had snow, and a mini mum of 28 degrees. Yesterday ( Friday) morning we had snow, and our old companion, the east wind.—Carlisle Pa triot. [The country papers generally speak of the severity of the season.) MAIDSTONE ELECTION. (From our Second Edition of last night.) (rhoM A CORRESPONDENT.) The polling commenced this morning at eight o'clock with great spirit on both sides, and at nine o'clock Mr. Robarts was at the head of the poll, with every prospect of winning. Mr. Fector's party, seeing that no time was to be lost, went into the market, and purchased votes largely at from 101. to 151. per man, the effect of which was to put him considerably above Mr. Roberts. The poll closed at four, but as the numbers will not be de clared till twelve to-morrow, the precise state at the termina tion cannot accurately be known. The majority will be somewhere about 100 ; and the greatest portion of the con stituency have polled. The bribery was of the most open nature—it, was hardly attempted to be disguised. A petition to Parliament will bring out a case seldom equalled, and ample proofs of the ve nality of Maidstone can be collected for that purpose. PRIVATE BILLS IN PARLIAMENT (YESTERDAY.) (From our Second Edition of lattt night.) COMMITTEE ON BILL (WEST SCOTLAND LIST. Lord WILLIAM BENTINCK in the Chair. Edinburgh and Glasgow Railway Bill.--Mr. \Vow), for the Bill, proceeded to call Mr. J. Miller, engineer of the railroad. Witness stated that the only deviation on the line proposed is near to Edinburgh ; the deviation in extent is about a mile : a diminution of 43,0001. would be the result of such altera tion, and a change of terminus. Mr. JOY addressed the Committee, and objected to the course pursued by Mr. Wood, in examining first as to alterations, &c., and in other respects altogether new matter. The Learned Counsel objected entirely to such a course. It was not right, inasmuch as this evidence was not taken before his Lordship and the Committee this year ; and there was no evidence to prove that this evidence had been correctly printed, or even that it had been read by many of the Committee. His Learned Friend was certainly presuming that he could take all the new as well as the old matter together ; and Mr. J,)y contended that a new Parliament having been elected since the last year, the newly elected Members, several of whom were upon this Committee, could not be supposed to be at all acquainted with matters relative to the last year's Bill; and yet his Learned Friend had argued that they were equally well acquainted with last year's proceedings as with those of this. Mr. ANDRRWS proceeded to combat the objections, when he was interrupted by Mr. FINCH, who recommended that Counsel on each side should endeavour to agree as to what parts of the evidence should be read. This would save time. Mr. ANDREWS then proceeded to contend that the whole evidence ought to be beard and received—the last year'3 printed evidence (as well as the written evidence of the short hand writer to the House) being upon the table of the House for Hon. Members to read if they thought proper. Mr. Joy replied, contending that if his Learned Friend succeeded in his aim as to the evidence, it would only prove that his ability and ingenuity could make that which was bad and inadmissible evidence, appear as good and admissible. It was impossible, in short, that evidence, which it was not proved had been read by the Committee, could now be put in. The room was then cleared. After which the Chairman announced that the Counsel were at liberty to proceed, and that they should call the attention of the Committee to such points of the evidence of last year as appeared material. Mr. Miller was then cross-examined by Mr. Joy. Witness stated that he considered the Company might possibly be in duced, under certain circumstances, to decrease the fares on the railroad, consequently he admitted the income of the railroad would be deteriorated. The direction of the line does not approach the property known as " The Lodge." It crosses over the parish road, at an • elevation of 22 feet and 1 inch, being 18 feet below for passage. A stationary engine is to be at the terminus, as proposed last year. No other deviation from the line is intended. The tunnels are a little extended, to the length of 128 feet. The line runs through the property of Lord Hopetoun ; the line passes through his estate at a very deep cutting. The trench is the same depth as last year. Does not think it would deteriorate the property, not being nearer Lord Hopetoun's house than two miles. No •' amenities" are destroyed by it. Does not agree in the opinion of Mr. Gilpin, viz., that "the man who could recommend this cut, did not do his duty to his neighbour, and could not be a Christian." Th e trench runs through Lord Hopetoun's property, for nearly four miles; the line is generally parallel with a canal running through the same estate. Mr. JOY here announced that lie admitted at once the printed evidence produced to be a true copy of the written evidence. Mr. Woon then summed up the evidence of last year and this year. He did so, he said, with perfect confidence, as the evidence was thoroughly sifted, and great pains taken to come at the truth. The Learned Gentleman argued that this evidence must--having been laid before the House—be considered conclusive. He then proceeded to extract from the printed evidence of the report of last year, from which it appeared that an enormous increase of population, trade, and commerce had taken place from year to year along the line proposed. Ho then entered into a detail, wherein he copiously extracted from the evidence, and strongly urged the import.. ance of the Bill, declaring it to be not only a great desidera tum, but an absolute necessity. The address of the Learned Gentleman took up the time of the Committee until nearly a quarter before four o'clock, the usual time for the Speaker's going to prayers. Adjourned until twelve o'clock next Thursday. SUB-COMMITTEE ON PETITIONS—(No. 3.) Mr. AOLIONBY in the Chair. Belfast Waterworks--(No. 2.)—By adjournment from last Friday.—Further proof of notices was gone into, after which it was objected by the opponents to the Bill that a pipe-tract was not laid down on the plan through the town of Belfast. Considerable argument ensued there upon, and the room was cleared ; after which the Chairman an nounced the decision of the Committee, that in this respect the Standing Orders had been complied with. Mr. Cubitt was then called to prove further compliance with the Standing Orders, when it was objected that the height of embankment of the great Reservoir, although exhibited upon the section, was not shewn upon the plan. A discussion, pro and con, ensued upon the point, when, without the room being cleared, the Committee decided that, in this respect, the Standing Orders had not been complied with. Lengthened arguments then took place upon various points of the Standing Orders, as to the ground and water levels, the datum line, &c., of the Reservoir ; and also as to the ten per cent. which had not been deposited, although it had been offered to Mr. Ley, the clerk of the House, who had refused to receive it. The room was cleared, after which it was decided that, upon the point of the deposit, the Standing Orders had not been complied with. The SPEAKER being at prayers, the Committee adjourned until next Wednesday week at twelve o'clock. SERIOUS CHARGE AGAINST A MEDICAL Pum.—Yesterday an inquest was held at the George, yon mouth-street, Seven Dials, on the body of the male infant child of Jane Batty, a poor married woman living in Mon mouth-court, whose death was the result of the non-attend ance of a medic a l p u pil a tt ac h e d to B rown l ow-street Hospital, Drury-lane. It appeared that the parents were laboti l ang people in very indi gen t c i rcumstances, hav i ng a family of s - iveral children. On Friday night last the poor woman was taken in labour, when Mr. Barton, an assistant-surgeon be longing to Brownlow-street Hospital, was sent for to attend. The messenger went twice, stating the urgency of the case ; hut, notwithstanding, he did not attend, and the result was that the babe was destroyed in the birth. The jury, after commenting upon the distressing nature of the case, returned the following verdict—" That the child came to its death from suffocation, the mother not having received proper medical at tention at its birth ; and the Jury consider that great blame was attached to Mr. Barton, a medical pupil of Brownlow street Hospital, in not attending to the case after having been twice sent for." On Monday a dashing blade, who gave his name as Charles Frederick Armstrong, in the garb of a warrant officer, with a Mackintosh, riding whip, and other spruce appurte nances, was committed by Mr. Postlethwaite to Petworth gaol to two months' hard labour, for going about the country with a petition, and obtaining money. under false pretences from the credulous and unwary. The prisoner was stated to bo the leader of a gang who were levying contributions upon the charitably disposed, by means of representing themselves as shipwrecked mariners, forming part of the crew of the brig Mary, wrecked off Portland. —Brighton Gazette. The weather was very severe last week in various parts of the country. Snow and frost on the Devon bills, and in Scotland also snow has again fallen and lies deep. The London mail to Edinburgh has been from three to five hours behind its time each day. NEGRO SLAVERY. Mr. MILES presented a petition from the congregation of Wesleyan Methodists of Pontefract, praying for the immediate and total abolition of Negro apprenticeship. Mr. SANFORD presented petitions from Chard to the same effect. The Hon. Member also presented similar peti tions from different places in the County of Somerset. Sir G. STRICKLAND presented 30 petitions from diffe rent parts of the country against Negro slavery. The prin cipal of those petitions emanated from a large meeting held at Exeter Hall. Th a t petition was signed by the Chairman, Lord Brougham, on behalf of the meeting. Dr. LUSHINGTON presented a petition from Thomas Clarkson to the same effect. Mr. PEASE presented a petition from Carlisle to the same effect. Mr. HAWKINS presented numerous petitions to the same effect, but we could not catch the names of the places. Similar petitions were presented by Mr. THORNLEY and by Major AGLIONBY. Sir J. DUKE presented a similar petition from Boston. An HON. MEMBER, whose name we could not learn, pre sented similar petitions from Huntingdon and other places. Similar petitions were presented from places in Yorkshire and in Norfolk, by Mr. Baines and another Hon. Member. IRISH POOR RELIEF BILL. Sir R. B ATESON presented two petitions from places in the County of Londonderry, against the Irish Poor-law. Also a petition from a parish in Londonderry, against the system of national education in Ireland. Also petitions from Belfast, Lisburne, and Londonderry, praying for a renewal of_ the Lin en A ct , w hi c h w ill exp i re a t t h e en d o f th e p resent Session. Mr. HODGES presented a petition from a Board of Guardians in the county of Kent stating that they had taken great pains to ascertai❑ the general working of the New Poor-law Act, and were highly in favour of its principle. Also one praying for the immediate abolition of Negro slavery. Mr. 13. BARING presented a petition from the Arch deacon and Clergy of Stafford against the suppression of the Bishopric of Sodor and Man. Mr. Sergeant L E FRO Y presented a petition against the system of national education. TITHE AND CORPORATION BILLS—IRELAND. Lord JOHN RUSSELL wished to ask the Right Ho nourable Baronet opposite, whether it was his intention, or the intention of the Noble Lord the Member for North Lancashire, to move an instruction to the Municipal Corpo ration Bill Committee to provide that the Municipal Corpora tions of Ireland should be abolished. Sir ROBERT PEEL —Sir, as I have been for some years past rather in the habit of administering than answering ques tions, the Noble Lord will not be surprised that I am desirous, for a few moments, of assuming that position which is somewhat more familiar to me—that of putting a question to the Noble Lord. I don't do this merely for the purpose of taking a lesson from the more practical experience of the Noble Lord in answering questions—( Laughter)—but because the answer the Noble Lord may give to my question may be impor tant, and may enable me to give a more definite and satisfac tory answer to the question which he has put to me, and to which I have promised to reply. The ques tion which I wish to put to the Noble Lord is, what course it is the intention of her Majesty's Government to pur sue with respect to the Irish Tithe Bill and the interest of the Irish Church ?—( Hear, hear.) At the meeting of Parliament, her Majesty directed the attention of the Legislature to three questions relating to the domestic policy of Ireland—the establishment of a system of Poor-laws, the Reform of Municipal Corporations in Ireland, and the altera tion of the laws regulating the collection of tithes in Ireland—and the House assured her Majesty, in an Address to which we unanimously agreed, that we should consider these subjects. Now, as more than four months have elapsed since that time, and, as I presume, the Government have made up their minds as to those measures to which they have directed the attention of this House, I mar assume that they have made up their minds as to the measures they intend to submit to Parliament on the question of Irish Tithes.—( Hear, hear.) The Right Hon. Baronet was proceeding to read the Resolu tions when he was interrupted by loud cries of " Hpar, hear.", After a pause of a few minutes, the Right Hon. Baronet con tinued—l did not seek this—the course which the Noble Lord has taken has imposed it upon me. I find these Resolutions on the journals of the House :—" That this House do now resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House to consider the state of the Church Establishment in Ireland, with a view to appropriating any surplus arising there from to the general education of the people ; that it is the opinion of this House that no m easure can b e i ntroduced for the s e ttlement of tithes in Ireland that will be likely to prove satisfac tory, that does not embody the foregoing - resolutions." Coupling the existence of these resolutions with the speech froin the Throne think myself entitled after the lapse of four months to put this question to the Noble Lord —whether it is his intention to bring forward any measure with respect to Irish tithes, and whether it will involve the principle contained in t h ese Resolutions. Having received an answer from the Noble Lord, I will then proceed to discharge the duty which it will impose on me. RUSSELL —The Hous e w ill see that as Lord JOIIN the Right Hon. Bart. has put the question with some care, it will be necessary for me to take time to answer it, and in order to put myself within the rules of the House, I s h a ll now move that the House resolve itself into a Committee to take into consideration the question of Irish Tithes on a certain day to be hereafter named. The Right Hon. Gentleman has complained that four months have elapsed, and that no measure has been brought forward with respect to Irish tithes. It did appear to m e th at it was the u n d erstand i ng that the House s hould g ive its attention to certain measures that were to be brought forward ; that these measures should be disposed of separately, and so sent up to the House of Lords ; that that House should not be called on to consider all our measures at the same time when, according to their own declaration, they had not suffi cient time to give t hese measur es a separate and dis tinct consideration. The first measure recommended by her Majesty was the Bill for the relief of the poor in Ireland, and that measure has not onl y been r ead a second time, but has re ceived the most careful consideration from this House through out all its stages, so that I think it cannot be fairly said th - a t there has been any delay in bringing forward the mea sures recommended by her Majesty ; neither do I think it can be said that it would have been wise to interrupt the progress of that measure by the introduction of others. With regard to the question of tithes in Ireland, it stands in this peculiar situation. In the year 1834, a Bill was sent from that House which was rejected by the House of Lords ; in 1835 a Bill was sent from that House, which was considered so obnoxious in its provi sions that it was not prosecuted. In 1836 a Bill for the same pur pose was introduced, but in consequence of its provisions being greatly curtailed it was not proceeded with. In 1837 another Bill of the same kind was introduced, and as his Noble Friend the Member for North Lancashire had declared, that unless the Bill was altered in its provisions he should oppose it, be considered that it was useless to proceed with it in its present shape. He (Lord John Russell) did not think it wise for the sake of legislation, or for the interests of the parties, that this fruitless contest should be carried on. It would, therefore, be the anxious wish of the Government to propose such measures as would meet with the assent of both parties, and would form a basis of adjustment between all. He would say likewise that he thought it was the duty of the Govern ment, in bringing forward the question again, as far as it was in their power, to propose a comprehensive measure, that would give security to the Church on the one hand, and give satisfaction to the people of Ireland on the other. With these views he would give notice, that on the 30th of April the question would bo introduced to the notice of the House, and he would state further, that the measure was of such a nature that it wou l d be necessary to take the sense of the House as o n f ormer occasions, not upon one, but upon various resolutions as the ground work of the measure. He thought it his duty to state that to the House, in order that Hon. Members might have a general view of the nature of the scheme intended to be proposed. But he declared that it was the wish of the Government to come to a settlement of the question ; and he thought that there was on the part of those who opposed it in fo rme r yea r s a grow i n g desire for the settlement; and he thought that if what he had-to propose could he made the groundwork of the adjustment of this ques tion, it would be an advantage to Parliament in all its branches, aid an advantage to Ireland.—( Hear.) At the beginning of the Session there were petitions from the clergy, declaring that they were satisfied with the present state of things ; but meet ings of that body had since been held which indicated an altered state of opinion. If indeed it were the opinion of one of the parties, most interested, that the law ought to be allowed to operate without alteration, Parliament would be unable to effect a satisfactory arrangement of the question, and it would hardly be the duty of the Government—indeed it would scarcely be posssible—to propose, in future, any measure whatever which could be satisfactory.-.-(Hear. ) The Noble Lord then proceded to read the resolutions to the following effect :—that the Ecclesiastical Tithe Composition, should be continued on a rent charge, at the rate of 7-10ths of the amount—that on the expiration of existing interests, so much of this rent charge as is chargeable in !Loa of Tithes and Ministers' Money may be purchased at sixteen years purchase, according to the original value. That the Ecclesiastical Commissioners of Ireland be em powered to purchase any proportion of Tithe Composition, not exceeding one-tenth in any one year.—( Hear, hear.) That until such Composition be collected the Tithe Composi tion and Minister's money be paid out of the Consolidated Fund. •—( Part of the resolution was entirely lost to those in the gal lery.) The remainder of the Resolutions were simply declaratory of the necessity of future regulations for the better adjustment of composition and rent charges. He would now leave it to the Hon. Baronet to state what course he would take, and should move that the House resolve itself into a General Committee on the 30th of April, to take into consideration the state of Irish tithes. Sir R. PEEL thanked the Noble Lord for his frank de claration of the intentions of the Government, and also for the decisive proof that he had thought. his (Sir Robert Peel's) question but a natural one, inasmuch as the Noble Lord was, without any concert with him, prepared with an answer. He would follow the example set by the Noble Lord, and endeavour to answer the question he had put, whether or not upon moving that the House resolve itself into a Com mittee on the Municipal Corporation Bill the motion made in the two preceding years,that the Bill should be separated, would be repeated. There might be some force in the argument that it was desirable to proceed with one measure at a time if the Noble Lord had adhered to that principle ; but he accompanied the discussion of the Poor-law Bill with the mea sure now proposed to be introduced with respect to the Irish Corporations. Of course, the Noble Lord could not expect him (Sir R. Peel) to express any opinion on the Resolutions. He participated in.the wish expressed by the Duke of Wellington at the close of the last session, that it might be possible for Parliament to come to some satisfactory settlement of the ques tions which had so longoccupied the attention of the Legislature. There was a prospect of settlement with respect to the Irish Poor-law Bill. He wished it might be so with respect to the Irish Corporations and the Irish Church Bills. But lie felt bound to say that full security for the stability of the Irish Church was an essential part of that settlement.—(Hear, hear.) He trusted that he would not be considered unreasonable when he proposed to postpone the Committee on the Irish Corporation Bill until after the sense of the House had been taken upon the Resolutions of the Noble Lord.—( Hear.) With respect to the Resolutions he could give no opinion, but he sincerely trusted the question would be settled, and the subject would not be left the constant arena for contention.--( Hear.) BOROUGH OF PONTEFRACT. Mr. WARD rose for the purpose of withdrawing his pro mised motion upon the petition which he had presented to the House from Sir C. E. Smith, relating to the payment of head money in the election of Members to serve in Parliament fur .he borough of Pontefract. Having examined into the al leged facts he found they were by no means substantiated. —( Hear.) The petition was then withdrawn altogether. Mr. HUME also withdrew his motion to extend to Election Committees the practice of entering the names of Members who vote in diiisions of such Committees, doubting how far it would be interfering with the Grenville Act. Sir R. PEEL begged to know from the Hon. Baronet op pcsite (Sir G. Strickland), whether his Hon. Friend (Sir E. Wilmot) intended to go on with his motion c,n the slave ques tion set down on the paper for Thursday ? Sir G. STRICKL AND said, on Thursday. _ Sir R. PEEL would be glad to know, in that case would the Noble Lord (J. Russell) go on with the Controverted Election Committee on Friday? The Spanish question, which would be immediately brought on by a Noble Lord (Eliot), would probably occupy the House two nights ; the slave ques tion could not be fairly considered in less ; and then, after four successive nights, would they have to enter upon the con sideration of the controverted elections? _ _ Lord J. RUSSELL, in case the unhappy prospect held out to the House by the Right Hon. Baronet were ♦erified, would propose to postpone the Controverted Elections Bill to Monday. STAMP DUTY ON FREEMEN'S BILL. Mr. W. WILLIANIS rose to move for leave to bring in a Bill to repeal the stamp duty on admission to the freedom of cities and boroughs in England and Wales ; but Lord J. Rus sell having objected to the introduction of the Bill, on the ground that a similar Bill had passed the House and been sent up to the other House, the rejection of which by the other House that House was not in the regular way cognisant of, withdrew his motion. SPANISH POLICY. Lord EL lOT rose, in pursuance of his notice, to call the attention of the House to the Order in Council made by her Majesty's Government, suspending the provisions of the Foreign Enlistment Act ; and, in doing so, he would be ob liged to bring under consideration their general course of foreign policy.—( Hear, hear.) It was not necessary for him to take a larger retrospect of Spanish affairs than the breaking out of the civil war. The House was aware that the Salic law had been introduced by Philip the Fifth. It also knew Ferdinand put an end to that law, and changed the order of succession. Hon. Members also knew that at the death of Ferdinand Don Carlos retired to the frontier of Portugal, to seek protection from Don Miguel. The treaty was then formed with the Courts of London and Paris for the purpose of expelling these two Princes from the Portuguese domi nions, and the expulsion of the two Princes was accomplished. The object of the treaty was fulfilled, and the treaty itself at an end.—(Hear.) But after Don Carlos had left this country, and placed himself at the head of his partizans, the Courts of England and France were again applied to for additional assistance. In the stipulation which followed, while England engaged to furnish not only arms and money, France merely bound herself to furnish a pre ventive police to prevent stores from crossing the Pyrenees. At this period the Duke of Wellington came into office, and his first act was to fulfil i❑ every respect all the terms of the Quadruple Treaty esta blished by his predecessors. — ( Hear, hear.) But not content with that he took measures to put an end to the inhuman prac tice then used by the combatants of both sides, of putting to death their prisoners. --( Hear.) He (Lord Eliot), as the House was aware, had been deputed to carry those humane intentions into effect. He had proceeded to the head quarters of Don Carlos, and, in justice to that Prince, felt bound to say that he on that occasion evinced every readiness to accede to the proposal made.—( Hear.) Having obtained the assent of Don Carlos he proceeded to the head quarters of Zumala carregui, and in fairness to the character of that extraordinary man he found no difficulty in gaining his assent. He subse quently proceeded to the head quarters of the Commander-in- Chief, and experienced from General Valdez not only kindness, hut a readiness and a facility in accomplishing the object of his mission. He acknowledged that he thought it would be diffi cult to have acted otherwise, because the numerous bands of robbers with which the country was infested would have availed themselves of the indulgence, under the pretence that they were the troops of Don Carlos.--( Hear, hear.) He would merely say with regard to this convention that he was rejoiced to say that it was attended with great success, and he had the concurrent testimony of the Spanish Minister and of the Carlist officers that many lives had been saved by its operation. —( Hear. ) He was rejoiced . to take this opportunity of disclaiming any merit in its success; if he could claim any merit, he must share that merit with his gallant companion, Colonel Gur_ wood, a man well known in that House, who bad established hi sreputation by leading the storming party at Ciudad Rod rigo, and had since conferred a great benefit on his country by devoting his leisure to the arrangement of the invaluable de spatches of the Duke of Wellington.—( Hear, hear.) He would now allude shortly to a topic which had for some time excited considerable interest in this country ; he meant the rights and privileges of the people of tie Basque Provinces. —(Hear, hear.) No man who had witnessed the progress of the present contest and the devotedness of that people to the cause of Don Carlos, but must feel that there was something real in those privileges on account of which they fought so desperately ; in other parts of Spain there was great devotion exhibited to the cause of Don Carlos. In no place did it show itself to so great an extent as among the Basques. Im mediately after his mission the Administration ceased, and the Noble Lord opposite resumed the controul of the Foreign Department, and from that moment a more active intervention was determined on. The Noble Lord sent his marine artil- lerv, and his munitions of war, and also put forth his Order in COuncil, authorising tho raising a force in this country for the Queen of Spain. He ( Lord Eliot) would not venture to enter deeply into the question of international law ; but he appre hended that none would dispute the proposition that war was not justifiable unless necessary.—(The Noble Lord here read an opinion of Jefferson, respecting war.) Even admitting that the Noble Lord opposite was justified in the view he took—that he was justified i n p erm i tt i ng t h e ra i s i ng of troops in this country for the service of a foreign State—still, looking to the interests of the men so en listed, it was the duty of the Noble Lord to see that all en gagements with th em were re li g i ous ly fulfilled, and that some provision was made for those unhappy beings who were sent back to their own country sinking under wounds and debili tated constitutions.—( Hear, hear.) He should have well re flected on the awful sacrifice of life. He (Lord Eliot) did not wish to make any appeal to the feelings of the House on this point, but he must express his opinion that the . Noble Lord did not exercise the sound judgment that became him on that occasion. He ( Lord Eliot) would not go into the military part of the question—that had already been disposed of by his Right Honourable Friand ; he would not talk of defeat or disgrace, but he hoped the Noble Lord would not quarrel with him if he alluded to what he must be allowed to call the failure of the expedition.—( Hear, hear.) He would read a letter on this subject which he had received—a letter of which the Noble Lord might believe as much as he chose-_a letter from a distinguished officer in the service of Don Carlos, stat ing the comparative state of Spain at the landing of the Le gion and at the present time. The Noble Lord then pro. ceeded to read an extract from the letter in question. Mr. SHE IL asked for the date of the letter. Lord E LIOT was not prepared with the date, nor d'.d he vouch for its accuracy, but he could without difficulty procure the date for the Hon. Member. Mr. S HEIL merely asked the question from curiosity. Lord ELIOT continued.—All he wished to prove was that the Noble Lord had not succeeded in producing any impor tant change in the position of affairs at the seat of war, or in the security of the Spanish Queen's Government. He (Lord Eliot) had lately had a conversation with General San Ali guel, who had served under General Valdez, one of the most distinguished members of the Exaltado party, and Secretary of State during the time of the Cortes, in 1823. General San Miguel deprecated all foreign interference, whether French or English, and said th a t if a nat i on cou ld not h er self achieve freedom she was unworthy of it—( Hear, hear)—and that he would rattier see the Carlists triumph than be indebted ted foreign interf erence f or t h e i r d e f eat . This was r: the" fueling all a . et . over Spain —n o t on ly o f th e C ar li sts , b u t o f t h ose ct:e wen t succour, who could never di ves t th emse l ves o f a IA w. ng of jealousy aga i nst t h e i r f ore i gn aux ili ar i es. Thi s was the elate of affair s i n S pa i n. A n d , t h en, they ha d t h e C ount T . , veno stating that it was i m p oss ibl e to get on w ith ou t arrangcm . cnt with Don Carlos ; and Espartero complaining of the to0:0 d, vitution of his army, and boasting as his only comfort that:. :he army of his enemy was in a 'worse condition. But the . Noble L or d wou ld , perhaps, say the Government at l east was grateful. How stood the case ? In August last year, when the public press was boasting that the successful exertions of Sir George Villiers had procured for the British merchants an exemption from taxes and forced loans, at that very xime Bar daxo was issuing his decree ordaining that no foreign rat:rchant should have any exemption. So much for the gratitude o: the Spanish Government. He (Lord Eliot) did not presume to give his opinion, but it was the unanimous opinion of officers of almost every nation, that at the time the Legion was sent out, forty thousand di sc ipli ne d troops would have been neces sary to restore peace to the country. They were told that a million of money had been expended in sending arms Sand mu nitions of war to Spain. He believed that that SUM ‘. , al, - short of the amount ; but now their own exigencies obliged !hem to send troops to Canada, and they had actually no musk, is for the men. The Guards, when they applied to have their' muskets (which had been eleven years in use), changed, were told that there were no new ones to replace them. Sir H. VIVIAN (as we understood him), dissented from the assertion of the Noble Lord. Lord ELIOT—No matter how the fact was, a great quantity of arms and munitions of war were sent out of the country. He could not help thinking also that the Noble Lord had incurred great responsibility to those persons who had taken shares in the different loans contracted by the Spanish Government. These people, seeing neither princi pal nor interest for their money, had just cause for reproaching the Noble Lord.—( Hear, hear.) In looking over the speech of the Spanish Minister Toreno he (Lord Eliot) found the Spanish revenue to be about 9,000,0001., and the expendi tures about 7,000,0001. The interest on the debt, at 24 per cent., was 3,500,0001. and the total deficit 3,500,000/. With such a state of finance be could not see how the present Go vernment was to be sustained. He would now trouble the Noble Lord with one more authority as to the propriety of this expedition. In 1823 Mr. Canning said : " There arc some individuals who think that this country should immediately send forth a maritime armament to watch the events that may occur on the shores of the Peninsula, Such a course would, in my opinion, be unworthy of a great and independent nation like our own, and would degrade us from a first to a second-rate Power. Ido hope that whenever we determine on war we shall determine to wage it not as an auxiliary but as a principal. Such had hitherto been our po licy, and on all former occasions when we had resorted to war we had exerted every nerve to bring it to a safe, a speedy, and an honourable conclusion. Tot o cola tam cor pore regni. This was the only sound view in which war could be contemplated." This was the only sound view, and, coupling it with the opi. nion so lately expressed by a Noble Duke, that a great country could never be engaged in a little war, he (Lord Eliot) thought the two authorities of such distinguished statesmen were entitled to some attention. But let them look to the conduct of the King of France—what was his language? He ( Lord Eliot) found in the speech of the King of France these expressions : I trust that the Constitutional Monarchy will triumph over the dangers which menace it ; but I have wished to pre serve my country from sacrifices of which it was impossible to forsee the extent, and from the incalculable consequences of any armed intervention in the internal affairs of the Peninsula. France reserves the blood of its sons for its own cause, and, when found by sad necessity to call on them to shed it in her defence, it is under her own glorious standard that French soldiers march to battle." —( Cheer.%) He would ask, could thoughts more just be clothed in expressions more noble ? and he would say that it was his earnest wish to hear some such speech emanating from the Throne of his own Sovereign. The Noble Lord could not hope to do much in Spain and Portugal now that France denied all assistance, and he would have to brave alone the storms he himself had brought down. He (Lord Eliot) wculd ask the Noble Lord whether it was right to provoke the enmity of Powers now in amity with this country—powers to whose me diation we were perhaps now indebted for the peace of Europe ? Because, if they had acted on the principle ascribed to them, they would hare actually assisted Don Carlos. lie believed tliat to entirely retrace our steps would be unwise, and to re trieve past errors impossible ; but he thought it was yet in our power to gain a position from which we might, at a fitting occasion, step forth as mediators, and propose a Government which would have the effect of restoring tranquillity to the country, and of effecting the object of his motion, which was, " That an bumble Address be presented to her Majesty, ex pressing to liar Majesty the opinion of this House that no ad vantage, either to the interests of this country, or to those of Spain, has resulted from the employment of her Majesty's; subjects in the service of her Catholic Majesty, in consequence of the suspension, by Order in Council, of the provieiona of the Foreign Enlistment Act; and since the continuation of such Order in Council is not required by the obligations of existing treaties, humbly praying that her Majesty will be graciously plensed not to renew it." Mr. C. FE RG U SSON could asmre the Nobte Lord that he was the last person in the werld whom he would charge as being a partisan of Don Carlos : on the contrary, he knew that the Noble Lord had exerted himself to the utmost to mitigate the rigour of that Prince's conduct Neither could he disapprove of the measure of the Duke of Wellington l sending the Noble Lord for the purpose of concluding the convention, had that measure been carried to its full extent on the side of humanity. There was no doubt—there could be no doubt—that the soldiers of the Legion were included in that convention, and, if so, they must a'so confess that the 147 Biitish subjects who fell victims to the Durango decree were basely and inhumanly butchered.—( Hear, hear.) It would be necessary to go back a little to consider this subject fairly ; but he would do it as briefly as possible. On the death of Ferdinand the Seventh the despotism which had afflicted the country for ten years, a despotism as bad as ever afflicted a country, terminated. On his death it was necessary that those Powers interested in the fate of the Peninsula should consider the line proper for them to take. The French were the first who interfered. They had the authority of Thiera's speech for saying that at the death of Ferdinand the. French Government despatched an Envoy with written des patches, the contents of which were to offer such succour and assistance as Spain should require. Let it not then he said that the English were the first to begin.—( Hear, hear, hear.) The French having thus taken the first step, the English Government had no choice; and accordingly they sent an Envoy. What were they to do? To remain neutral was impossible.—( Hear, hear.) It was perfectly clear that, if they had not taken some decided part, the way would have been open to France to do as she chose—to establish a predo minate influence, and defeat the interests of the British nation. —(Hear, hear.) If they had taken the other line, and as sisted the two Pretenders, they would have delivered over the Peninsula to the Northern Powers. Ile (Mr. Fcrgusson) believed that motions like the present would tend very much to promote that object.—( Hear, hear.) The Noble Lord had alluded to the Quadruple Treaty. The Noble Lord said that its first object was the expulsion of Carlos and Miguel, and that being done the object was accomplished. But he only stated one-half, as the object of it was not only to chase them from the territory, but there was an additional article binding this country to establish each Sovereign in her respective dominions—it was a treaty in fact not merely to expel the Pretenders, but ;to establish the rightful Sovereigns. Ho trusted the House would attend while he read the terms of the, treaty. The Hon. Member then read the treaty. lie con tended they had a right to adhere to that treaty, and that they were not restricted by the strict letter; but when they entered into alliance they might transgress the letter, so long as they adhered to, the spirit. Now, he would affirm • that nothing had been done, either by the employment of the Legion or by the Order in Council, inconsistent with the let ter or the spirit of that treaty. The Honourable Gentleman proceeded to read the preamble of the treaty, but in so low a tone as to be inaudible in the gallery, and continued. He would now refer to the obligations of the King of France. That Monarch tendered all the assistance that was in his power. His words were very strong. He promised the ac tive co-operation of France, and to do whatever should be settled on by common consent with his allies for the complete attainment of the objects of the Treaty. Now that Treaty had but one object, and that was to give stability to the Thrones of Spain and Portugal. That it was a hostile Treaty no person could deny. Louis Philippe was a party to that Treaty—he engaged to blockade his frontier (this was a bel ligerent measure) and to prevent the passage of stores through France. Could any one say, after that, that he was not a consenting party to the Treaty as well as England ? This was a material consideration. England did not act alone. She applied to France, and in France the Foreign Legion was raised, commanded by one of the bravest officers in the French Army, Colonel Conrad, who fell during the war. Let it not be said then that England acted alone. lie (Mr. C. Fergusson) considered that she was only on the same footing with the French Government, and he believed that both countries would have gone on well together were it not for the revolution of La Granja. After which the French people did not take the same interest in the affairs of Spain. On the other hand, England, by her fair conduct, had established her good faith throughout the world, and no part of modern his tory would redound more to the honour of Great Britain than the record of the manner in which she had fulfilled the Quad ruple Treaty. Were we not compelled to this course ? It was asked why did we not at once declare war against Don Carlos? Against whom ? Against a brigand, against the author of the Durango Decree, a man to be hunted down and not made war against ?—( Hear, hear.) We had never been at war a ith him—we had endeavoured to coerce him by all the means in our power, and in most cases we succeeded— in some we did not succeed. He believed the intention of the Noble Lord was to prove that no advantage had been procured I,)y the Order in Council. In considering that question let them consider the state of Spain when the Legion went there. The army was small in number and badly disciplined, and it was necessary to give some impetus to the cause, and he would contend that the arrival of the Legion produced an immense moral effect on the affairs of Spain.—( Hear, hear.) In a very short time the gallant acts of the Legion struck terror into the hearts of the Carlists, and excited the admiration of Europe. Ho (Mr. C. Ferguson) believed that it would be found by those who considered the campaign that but for the Legion St. Sebastian must have fallen, and also Bilboa, which event would have been imme diately followed by the recognition of Don Carlos by the Northern Powers.—( Hear.) This was his fi rm b e li e f. — Hear.) This was a calamity fr om w hi ch the Legion had signed H b e y htehled Queen in his b saved and, this amongst other a documents, n dthe civilizeda l w te o r rld. i