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T 'Friend near to him" do so. His Hon. Friend only stated that that was enough., for the argument of to night ; there was no reason to suppose that the Catholics would concedelhat which the Hon. Mover of the question deemed to be the indispensable ac companiment of any concession to them. If the House were desirous to collect the sentiments and wishes of the Irish Catholics, publicly expressed, let Mem consult the work of Mr. Keugh, to which he had before alluded. Let them read• the following passage :—" It is-time to lay the axe to the root of -the evil. If you sincerely feel that loVe of England, -a!id that loyalty to 'your King you are so for ward JO ptofrss : if, : in a word; your purpose be to save Ireland Waite empire, let her-experience an eternal divorce between religion and politics, in eluding the abolition of tithes, and the suppression of every species of public, plunder upon pious pre ' teuces. Let her see her corporate bodies, including the UniverSity, annulled ; for they are all organiied accomplices of old errors-, and of old vices,. against eery motal, politiesl or physical improvement.— Let her peasantry be freed fetal the pressure of . rack-rent, not by inoperative statutes, but by bring ing markes fewer bidders for more drable land ; by discouraging her grazing and by encouraging her do 'nestle manufadures. Let the progressive accumula tion of her taxes be terminated." The whole ended in an intimation of the necessity of dissolving the Union. On this last point- the . Honourable Gentleman opposite had vented a similar opi nion (Mr. Ponsonby replied in the negative.) • —Fle - was glad to hear it. The Honourable Gentle man, however, near him had certainly admitted the possibility of such a measurein'the course of his ar guineet, Mr. Keogh, who professed to speak'the suotinients of the Catholics of Ireland, did the same. If once the right of the Catholics to demand were admitted, he could not see how it would be possible to stop short of giving them all they dernanded.••- , - He saw no prospect of satisfying the Roman Ca tholic claimants by any measure short of giv ing them a full establishment of their Church. had always felt so ;- and he had al moiys argued so. Without therefore relinquishing that gro• iid of objection, he had thought it sutli • cienCto state what tie had stated in opposition to the Flom Mover, who, 'to 'preserve consistency, otigat to vote against his owtamotion and not for it. For it there _wt.re no wounds for the Hon. Mover's belief that the Catholics would consent to make a 16tisfactoty arrangement, then the Hon. Mover, on Ili; own principles should oppose the reterring of kOtttion to a Committee, the result of witio,e pi eeeeuings must be, , alter having-excited 'expecta tions which it was impracticable to gratify, to leave the public mind in a stile much worse than that in which it was toured. • At. WHITBREAD accused the Chaneeller a the Exchequer of bigotil and- intolerance ; deternicd the warmth of expression in which General ivlnt.; thew had delivered himself; and observed that though some of the Members of the University of Oxford had since chatiged their tone, their due ' tion of Lord Grenville to be their Chancellor was a proof that they were not unfriendly to -the Catho lic cause. The Chancellor of the Exchequer, c aninued he, would be satisfied with nothing short of having the' Pope secure. Why then not employ same Catholic Priest to smuggle - over his 'Holiness, as we had attempted, to smuggle over General Romano, and Ferdinand VII: But could the reflecting- part Of the people of England be entangled in the net of such sophistry ? They at least could not b r ut remember that none of our fleets could weigh anchor from Spithead, or none of our armies could coulend successfully in the field, with out the assistance of Roman Catholics. They were now under the banners of Lord Wellington in Spain, and'under those banners they had gained the glo rious battle of Talavera. You send them to fight your battles in Sicily and .Spain; but when you call upon them to join in thanksgiving for these vic . tories; you will nut allow them to address their God in their own way. On the whole, however, he must wish the Catholics to have patience; - for he saw a change operating in their favour, a change, which left no doubt in iris mind that their claims must soon be acknowledged. Air. CANNING had affirmed on a former, and he would repe'at it on the present occasion, that he had never pledged himself to any man, or to any set of inen„ to assent to a motion like the present. His opioioe had always been guided by the circum stances of the moment, as to the policy and 'ht.. im praeticaoda) of assenting to the claims of the Ca tholics. It was now acknowledged that so- clashing and conflicting were the opinions of the two parties, that it was impossible to ,reconcile them. It then, the Catholics - could not agree among themselves, , 'Why expect a greater degree of unanimity train the Protestants. 'reose surely woo moved the question., Should state the grounds on which they would receive . the boon which they solicited. The veto if wanted, could have no force, unless the Pope was to give it • his sanetion, but under the present circumstances of Europe, we could not .go to him to obtain that sane- titsn. "rhese and otaier circumstances, induced 'him to wish the question to be postponed, uutil the Pa pal dignity could be revived 'and regained out of (tie Lands of tee Ruler of France. The obstacleswhich opposed the asquiescence in the present motion, did not exist, as was iinagiped, in one quarter. It was :very generally opposed by marly'deseiiptioes of the (0111111Ullity._ Tne Catholics snoulu then wait for a moment - of mutual concession and - reciprocal good vt ill, atidnot attempt to extort a fat our from a re- , luctaut rival. , Weenever the favourable moment arrived for admitting their claims, he should certainly c foutid among the first to urge that admosion. Mr: HERBERT, of Kerry, spoke with much w:irinth, and at some lepgth, in favour of the ino lien, but the cries cif Cl . ..lestion, question, question ! were so loud and repeated, Ili& we could collect very little of what fell froM the Hon. Gentleman. Mr.HUTCHINSON rose amid loud and ,reiterated cries of ` withdraw ! adjourn, &c. After . a few r em arks on ihe fineness of the hour, he moved an adjourrimeot'of the debate. - '.ti snott cod s trsation followed .as to' the propriety • of aoj,airning,the . Debate, in which Mt. W. Smith, Mr. O'Hara,`' the Speaker, and Mr. Sheridan, par liciPated. The Ho se appeared disposed to adjourn it, but some diffiCay arose . in fixing the day on w i thal the bebate should be resumed, frucri the I 4 Of the l'ne - - - - • 35 Frigates" - . - 33 Sloops, &c. , - - - - 130 Total 198 But in the years 1807; 1808, and 1809, the cue ., my lost in ships of - war:which were captured, de stroyed, or rescued from his power— Of the line Frigates - 58 - 33 Sloops, &c. excluding Privateers - 197 Total 306 So that our success in the 1807, 1808, and i 809, exceeded that of 1797, 1798, and 1799, by 17 sail of the line, and 74 sloopS, being a total excess 'of 80 ships of war, but fall short in frigates by 11 ; while it also exceeds our success in 1804, i 805, and 1806,, by 23 ships of the line, 18 frigates, and 67 sloops, being a total excess of 108 ships of war.,--The No ble Lord concluded, with expressing his firm belief -- ; that our Naval power was fixed on that eminence which it would Continue, to maintain the security and glory of this country, whatever might be, the exertions of our inveterate enemy for its destruc t!on. MAILS. AatzvED—z llubtin, z Waterford. DUE -3 Gottenburgh; I Witterkold. PRICE Of STOCKS THIS DAY AT TWELVS O'CLOCK. Consols - - - On - mium - - - f 1.1 .1::A 6 SULEM QUIS DICERE FALSUM ALIDEAT ? LONDON, SATURDAY, MAY 26, 1810. Yesterday the Alllite upon Mr. GRATTAN'S Mo tion, respecting the Homan s eatliolics of Ireland, was resumed in the House of Commons, and continued till near four o'clock this morning, when it was again adjourned till Friday next. In the course of the dcoate LUraCtiSTLEREAGH contradicted, in the most distil - 1d terms, the assertion so often and so coufi- dently made, that, at the time of the Union, Go. verninent had entered into any engagement with the Catholics, to comply with their claims, in order• to obtain their concurrence in that measure. We this , morning received Letters and Papers from Barbadoes to the Ist ult. from which we have made some-extracts.. It appears that a general ex pectation prevailed in the West Indies, that the Toulon fleet would pay a visit to that quarter.. We know, however, that the vigilance of our com manders in the. Medic rraneau this etfectually pre vented the French horn carrying any such plan into .execution, if it was realiy in their contemplation. Some private accounts have been received from Halifax, in Nova Scotia, which state, 'that some events of'a very unpleasant nature 'Have occurred in Canada. Emissaries from BVONkkARTE have been, it issaid, very actively,and in some instances successfully employed in that Province, among the Frenchlnileni tants, and a plan was attually forrned to surprise Q.ae ec. The plot, however,was detected, and several per sons were taken into custody, among w Loin we are sorry to find mentioned sutm persons 'of consider able rank in the Pruviuce. It'is added, teat in con- sequence of this discovery every proper precaution had been taken, anti that tranqunity had been per- feetly restoreu. Such is the account given in private letters, which is so circumstantial, dm we Iwo?: not Ilthu to duubt it. At the same time we think it right to' add, that Quvetnment hive not rvceived any such intelligence, audit is to be presutm:ci that the earliest intelligence • of "he occurrence of an event of such importance would have been immediately transmitted home of ficially. Her Royal Highness the Princess AMELIA had not experienced any material change yesterd.7. General FERGUSON, who so much distinguished himself during the first campaign in Portugal, is going out to Cadiz, as second in command to Ge neral GRAHAM. One of the latest American Papbrs which we re ceived yesterday contains the following inielligence : " When the Spanish Minister presented his creden tials to tie Government of the United States, and was iejeeted with a full knowledge that he was authorized to offer Eight Millions of Dollars as compensation for. spoliations committed by Spanish ships under French lqfiuence on American Corn merce, •and also to settle the definitive boundaries of Louisiana, the dispute; respecting which _had once before nearly involved us in a war with Spain, the people %ere astonished that such proposals should be spurned in a coniemptuons manner. Eight millions of dollars in our " Ex hausted Treasury" would have been a pretty thing.— But our wisellulers thought otherwise. What will the people now say, when they find that the Spanish Government of Mexico, which adjoins Louisiana, • would not only have cordially joined to fulfil this 'Amicable arrangement in its fullest extent, but that .noW, considering the rejection as a hostile ad, they a-e putting their frontiers in a state of defence. Should we have a Spanish war on •the heels of our other national calaMities, great will be the re-' sponsib.lity .of those who have invited such a case what would become of Louisiana, for which we have paid Fitteen Millions ? These things are of a . nature to be trifled with."—Freeman's Journal. lon.street, Gropvenot tquars. ust common press of business standing for next week: Sir S. Romilly at length postponed hii motion which stood for Friday, to which day the Debate was ad journed, at four o'cloCk. The uncommon interest which was excited by the disemsion of Mr. BRAND'S motion for Parliamen tary Reform, on Monday evening, prevented us from giving more than a very faint outline of the important debate which took place on the same evening in the House of Lords on Lord MELVILLE'S motion relative to the expediency of employing Ships of War on reduced Establishments for the conveyance of_Troops. We cannot, however, avoid noticing, for the sa tisfaetion of the country, the very gratifying and encouraging statements which Lord MULGRAVE de livered, towards the close of his speech, of our na val affairs. His Lordship, after an animated reply to Lord, MELvitti's arguments on the particular question under discussion, observed, that having re tired from an office, productive -certainly of the greatest anxiety and the most laborious.duties in the State, he felt a proud consolation in reflecting, and he owed it to the able and intelligent men with whom he had for three years at:led, and whose kindness and valuable assistance he had 'ever expe rienced, to state to their Lordships, that the Naval Force of the country entrusted to his care .had not been wasted or misapplied. In contrasting the pre sent situation of the Navy with former periods, he found, that towards the close of last war the num ber of line of. battle ships-And frigates in commis sion was very much the same as at present, thongh the number of smaller cruiters had 'increased very greatly. But by maintaining a vigilant - blockade of the enemy's pOrts (that cheapest and most eff ctual of all protections to trade)', and at the same time covering the ocean with our cruisers, we had not ,only annihilated the very name of the enemy's trade at sea, but, in spite of his privateering systeria, bad afforded ample proteelion to oit own com merce, though increased in an unexampled pro gression. By returns on the table it appeared, that in 1797 the official value of our Exports was'not two-thirds of what it is at present ; the tonnage of the coun try had increased in the same deg;.ee, and we have 150,000 tom of transports requiring constant pro teelion, but notwithstanding - these east additional calls on the services of the Navy, it would be found that the rate of insurance had gone on trout year to year diminishing, being, in the Mediterranean and elsewhere, less than halt of what. it was formerly— but it had, owing to recent causes, increased in the Bnlt ic. i• Notwithstanding, however, that the narrow chan nels in this quarter were infested with privateers, convoys of not less amount than 3000 sail -had re turned in the course of the last season, without the loss of a single ship ! In 1808, the Admiralty sent, under protection, to or from foreign ports, a total of .10,78 r ships ; in 1809,. a total of 14,828 ; and in the first three Months of 1810, a total of 1784 ships, There sailed in 1809 alone 260 foreign convoys, besides 36 dtstinct convoys established be- .tween Halifax and the West Indies. In addition to all which, there was a double line of stationary miser, from end to end of the channel, Within four leagues of each other, to' enable. the coasting trade to pass unmolested. By these means, such .is the opinion entertained by the Merchants of our security at sea, that only within the last six months application had been made to the Admiralty to grant licenses to sail without convoy to foreign parts for no less than 2223 running ships. , Other services of the most important nature were also to be performed by the fleet. We had rescued from the power of the ene my the gallant ROMANA, and his army of 10,000 men. In the Adriatic, we had captured all the Se ven Jslands, except Corfu, and restored the septin sular flag in that sea; and in the West Indies, such has been our success, that now, for the first time in our history, the enemy's flag had entirely disap peared in that quarter. We had, besides, delivered from, the tyranny of 'the enemy the Royal House of PORTUGAL, its fleets and treasure, vs Well by our squadron were safely conveyed to their other domi nions. With ten sail of the line we had delivered our army from its perilous situation at Corunna. We also' fitted out the immense naval• force of 37 sail of the line, and altogether, 277 men of war for the Scheidt—a force, theprignitude of which is not to be paralleled in our annals. But he neverthe- . less trusted it would be .evisleat to their Lordships that the present establi hment of the Navy was not carried beyond' the calls of the service,. when for the relief of Cacliz i .and the,equipment of the fleet in Cadiz liarbot;r, it lyld been absolutely necessary to send on that -service the flag-ship oi the Com mander in Chief of the. Channel-Fleets,- and also he flag-ship of the Admiral second in command. Not withstanding, however, that such various and ex tensive services were required of our the un exampled security afforded to our commerce, and the proud and triutilpha3t attitude of the country, from a cdntest with which the enemy had in despair retired for safety to the inmost recesses of his ports, yet our naval- achievements, daring the last three years, by the astonishing enterprise of our seamen, would equal the most splendid periods - of our his tOry , and in this statement he disclaimed the idea of assuming merit to himself,' for he spoke it hum bly for himself, but not humbly -for those with whom he acted. In the" years. 1797, 1768, and 1799, by far_ the most successful of the last war, and in which the glorious battles of Camperdown; of the Nile, of St. Vincent's,. and the surrender in pledge of:all the Dutch fleet's, took place, the total loss which the enemy sustained by ships of war, captured, destroyed, or rescued from his power,, was— Of the line - - - 41 Frigaies - - - - - 62 Sloops and under (excluding privateers) 123 Total , - 226 In the years 1804, 1885, 1806, in which, the ever-memorable battle of Trafalgar was fought— and also the ailiuns - of Sir ROBERT.CALDER, Sir RICHARD STRACHAN, and Sir JOHN DUCKWORTH, 10 the total loss of the - ttlemy, in captured, de stroyed, or rescued; was— 1-9 N DON : Printed by RICHARD HARRIS, or No. 4, Martlett-court, Bow-street; and PLDlished by WILLIAM - A ItMIG hlt SCRIPPS, South Mo . I • At the Sus• OFFICE N0..112 Strand, where Advertisements Orders for the Paper Letters far the Editor , gore:Vast-paid) Er 1,, .-'; NAVAL NEWS PL Y MOUT It, NI A Y 24 ~—Arri ved the . schooner Catharine, of (Lis port', JAMES Doww, late master, from reneriffe, with a cargo for this port, Captain DOWN' died on the passage, sailed on . the 7th May; she brings an account of the loss of The ship Mary, Captain M‘DouEL ; of 'and froth Glasgbw bound, to Tobago, which vessel 'was wrecked some time since ori.a reef-of rocks near Teneriffe, the super cargo, a' passenger, and eleven of- her crew were drowned, the master, mate, andremainder of the crew were saved in the ship's boat. Arrived his_ Majesty's ship Revenge, from the Eastward; the brig General Doyle, .GuILLEE, from Madeira, with a cargo of pitch and staves for this port ; the Lively, JONES, from- Belfast, with a cargo of barilla for this port; and the Eleanor and Grace, BROWN, from Swansea: • Sailed his Majesty's ship Unicorn . for Basque Roads, and Pickle brig to the 'Westward. DEAL, MAY 25.—Arrived the Crane sloop of war • from a cruize. Sailed the Beagle sloop of war for Ramsgate Pier. PORTSMOUTH, MAY 25.•—Came in his Majesty's ship Ethalion from the West Indies, and the Chi , chester store-ship irom I•Voolwich. Arrive,' the Hawke, Alphea, Econonzy, Belle Bells, from Lisbon ; Melhard, from Cork ; Hawke, from, the Westward ; Sally, Ann, and Maria, all for Lon don ; also the John, FALHER, for Gibraltar ; Mary, BECK ; and Tont and Mary, PALMER, from Oporto; Sally, GREEN ; atlcl Lord Nelson, BRAND, for Lis bon ; Margaret, ---; Friendship, WARNER Brothers, HALL ; Two Brothers, PEARCE ; Union, CLARKE ; Christian, COOK; Friends, SPENCER; Sincerity, BADCOCK ; Tom Friend, OAK, from Lon don ; Industry, HOLDER, from Tarragona, for Guernsey ; Carnarvon Castle, JONES, from Dublin for London; Mary, SWAPPER, from Guernsey; Norridge, CONREL ; Mary, ' FARQUHAR ; Swift, •••••••••••• ; and Ann, FENWICK, from Siinilerland. Caine in this day his Majesty's ship Lavinia with a great many ships outward-bound, from the Downs. Sailed his Majesty's ship Hussar for Guernsey. His Majesty's' ship Rinaldo takes convoy to tile Downs. • FALNIOUTH, MAY 23.-Arrived this day the Rug' sian brig Admiral Tiscliolien, from St. Michael's with trait, 34 days' passage'; the Elgin, WAT ERs• from Newport; the George, RUSSETER, from Sheer" ness. _ . Sailed his Majesty's ships- Ganymede,' Captairl CATHCART ; Thais, Captain FRRRIER; with a COP' vov of about 8C sail for Poitugal, the Mediterranean , and Spain ; also. the Manchester packet, HALE,WIIh 'Mails for the \Vindwarci Islands ; • Princess Eliza, bah, KIDD, with Mails for Lisbon ; the General Giahani, BozArl, fur 'Malta ; • and the Mentor , YOUNG, for Malta and Messina. SPORriivc; INTELLIGENCE. NEWMARKET SECOND SPRING MEETING, Igfek FRIDAY, MAY Z . S. Mr. Howorth's lubileelack, beat Lord Kinnaird's Bt3" depburgli, Bst. 71b. each Two•yr old Course, jogs. Mr.. Wilson's c. by Cai,le, out'of Tim's dam, Bst. beat Kinnaird's Don Juan, Bst. 51b. First half of Ab M. sugs; Major Wilson's Juniper, Bst. 71b. beat Mr. Shakspe , r Harpocrates, Bst. Across the Flat, 5 ogs. , • A Subscri.A.:m Handicap Plate of 501. for 3 and 4-Yr olds. Sir Sneliey's b• C. Marmion, 4 yrs 85., 91b. Ld Foley's br. c. Illumination, 4y rs Bst 7111. - I Sir (: Shelley's Fanny, bst- alb, beat Ld Stawell's hive I lid, Bst. 71b. Ao M. booits. I d Grosvenor's A.ntonio, oat 71b. beat Ld 1 . Cosoornes Rabbit, 7st. I), I. cogs. The Gold Cup, value Begs. by Subscribers of togs. e•tc il . Eight Subscribers or no race, the overpiiit to be paid to 1 ",0 winner in specie, to be run tot by horses of all ges.. D. Ld Jersey's ' angton, aged, 9st. 71b. . Ld Stawell's yrt3st. 9112„. . Ld 's Gundy, 6 yrs 9st. • - 3 Ld F. .thntinck% Trump, 7st. sib. rec. slogs. f rom S ir W. W, %Vynn's Madi,ru Presle, BSt . 91b. R. M toogs, A Letter from Kilkenny (Irelank)), Liaied May 2 1 0 says, " This City !s lately been r of ItV mult and. uproir. - Upon .the arrival ' KerrY Militia, the popish mob instant;y now they had .their friends to support t, . would not leave an heretic alive. Every - 7 a i; the tatoo was attended by ferocious multiw shouting, cheering, and huzzaing tor such tors`' ; as gratified them ; at length they proceeded t ° . break the windows of the protestants, and.com- Mined violence on their persons ; the consequenc e was, they met with a spirited resistance and ono person was shot. Tranquility is now sothetyha t restored by the arrival of a large division of cavalry', and it is hoped the rioters will meet with condign punishment." Government have received advices froth Cartba gena, dated the 24th ultl by which it appears tha t through the exertions of that meritorious and rode' fatigable officer . Col, ROCHE, -two Spanish thre e , deckers, ,namely, the S an C a rl os an d Ferdinan d VII. of 130 guns each, have been saved from tailing into the hands of the enemy, who, 3000 strong, e n. " tered Murcia on the 23d, and on the following.dal were'within six -leagues of Carthagena. In aid of this important service, Sir SA MUEL Hoo p sent from Minorca, at the request of -Col. RocHis , the Hibernia and Aorthumberland, ships Of the line , which escorted the Spanish ships either to I.‘linorc# or Gibraltar. We are sorry to hear that accounts by the sale conveyance state, that the Spanish airny of t oe , centre, which had re-assembl e d to the amount 0 ' 20,000 men, under General BLAKE, have again I:g.' come fugi ti res. •The novelty of the Scheme of the Lottery b 0 caused an unusual clemand for Tickets. i