The Sun. — London, England, 1810-02-23 00:00:00

trex it 1L C ri 11~ r~•~ ~~:~- !'hl 11 11 ern' varo sue' and Stir isrly Jpeo t° :3010 Ott 4tiva acse. _40% 1 - L% - a rgt. and - ov t t of of -I"46CL fectoci .fit of ‘verti- coPY ;utattii 'eurn e'the : ' tetra's 0 ;IA °C t Nil ;cl calti I GC their wow' ati in' 1,2 d L °. .I)ad tlief in 04'. .10,4 kis tc , •-` ltly PS f !nt CSC 1 i ~ ~'{~ ,~i~,rj,:-l:. Se vi'C i s m;ll4' ,--, royee,. . . - "1""1-tr. . - meet ill , ..ti d i ' ir a '1 • ' linto'Scheldtllik ../ahi:or.....moth (list' ti, raves iee , , e ',o.. - Prtll %lore not -,been to : ,thet o _oette prace oinl e ' n4htry , ..- ,;raves"; orr . tii:.• contrary, Expedition:now, ; it was agreed that ? .the COnikulte 1-,„-,,,,0,ad enolortalie•-totierrls 'ties by their vol . oi•ies.. shoeld - hreak, up, at ,eight o'cloCk ; w bee the ant , • a: , I la b , : ct galoe t h latte,elS,--if. they. were' but- barren, ter • :appertaining' to the Distilleries might come gp,,, d 7 (18 s though barren,. were .not to be de- mence, oand ,he • appealed to the - House if that , was not-an houtowheo business of. importance tetras te m '" 1 " - ": Ilifqt2,ll - C,ifie'keiv.r -1 cal enity hal often, if not esually.brought forward. The Minis- I R e ,. , ' . 7 ,- .' l. '"wted by: our- disc , -ntfiter , s. Mini-64S ter's' seemed to Wish to 'go on from day to day' with D,l ni :; `"n" ,l with the. .10, d waited a! Walcher , ol---; _ the Committee without making arty progres4,..by Si-tr t:L(l, rid , -t -,'l''Ti tit,; why tbcso who opposed, them died des4ns, o ,arts, - devices, audonechanical prdcete. h ad b ' call' t -, 1 - • ttillr dorthissal froin office. They ,The 1•10.oe must recollea what occurred on the pre tlieoolTfor t it w hi !lh'ir oveo'ents did net call 'fOr c.!ing e.etling. It .had come to a Vote to preceed 2c,, ose e 'tu Ili , ' did otOt' -letioW- that it'eo ,, S'of ,inuch en. -tires Inquiry this' day at foqi 'o'clock, and to, E t p i,3, i o lll ,. e a Ce lo ' s, - •. l , t p l o, h rt -r ii .. g i" .l 6 . l• heads.were elf , - '`lf-'`lf cotitinueon-rl...Coomittee _until . eight, he therefOre .cOu4, not be, Saved :He wished.the HOUSe to preserve iti loreiotir and 'cep laio,cceostirt d the eonil ct of rali oistora, ,tindonain- aistency. and: not rescind a resolueoto which it come 4 ,, e, ;: lici t •h o tit ' aosiStattie- tl - o'v 'propo's'ed 'to scud, to on the fortia , -r. night.' If would be also recolteeted t sr id ...-' .4 - oovratoret service than if they =were 'to tha,,oite l of -tile Kortouroble Members' on the. Tree , - : Lt. ,, : ) r .ek o " ‘ ‘ t , ; a r lic t t , " i r lo l r v ) c ) o o l l .l - s t il e 'c, t - , e 2p , n1 ,, ' if l i t t i .. s Leereed - .F.iletad. Bury Behch w:: quarter, before ten o'c,lttek ; observed, From what ihe that t's ; ontlenten tied not the physioal.,Lrength -te -.1,01..t?,1,,,5.t-er,iary leet said of the love : Wel had, ea led -.proceed ' fnrther; and objefted to the . csilifig in of see'eolt should - Oopi,or .a - ,ery loving courieoliou Sef-I , 4ere c o et o . ' However, being rain `to a division,' wosmCd between England and the Peninsule.-..- theSeeree,ry of. Stott:. for the fiome , Dcpartnient - got h i:14 7 1. t. e French ado - Maid, they-, nnght,..perhops,' te;=aro.: 'made a speech of considerable length,.. he ev47, h e lrie ndslOcieettin - each ototfr'A. e:MbraCe. . ft - : •wo , a4d••rfoi say with 'a view to • speak against little, je o tlevons ,and. wicked: ti, squander -the 'lp'ehlk .- If toowere to f.illow the example, he wouid'oppose litirl.otY„,,w4Y Oil otvjeets which - ceuld, atm wer tu) one , ' the -Distillery, Bill . i.o ; every, stage, and :prevent it troth .. 11l ere `;•- He should vote for the, amendment ; being passed ;...but he. declered, on, his own ,part, oi.si was nOtliiii .reqnired-in the auier,dwe:i' but that-thePgtriewas•now a quarter past four o'clecki, Pyle ' ft e . I ?) , ,Whi, : l i. they rrrie.itt judge - 'of the pro- ~ if the finest!: would resolte itself into the COMMir .. k itt y of .the measure. If Ministers weuldobritig tee of LoqUiry on the"S - Icelat eio-edition, he, would Ne oei l r Y Officers to the .Bar of that House who ri erteete-thstab be :elaid a eight fart he purpose of ttroi ' ‘' de t,.e -the tutasure =afforded a-reasonable the House :then proceeding to the business - of the LoPe.,et of success, he would vote fur the AddreAs. !. Di ifilljri., s; .. • - _ ..- k w 't' BU CkINGI-lAMSRIRE concurred with iris 1 ' ,Mr. 6TEVEN said, ,io was ;:now obvious . that. the Att t i r l FriLici (Lord Sttlittotub)• in voting - for the,' ! Obj.2tit of 'Gentlemen 'at the: opposite.. side of the • sitee t -s, 'alit thiowing the -Whole of the revolt-. I, /louse - was 't() Illiil out isliui.ters, and put them !. hers Y . ,' 'Vito Minisoro—While the present Mem- i selves in t: eir place's, for which . they • sevt:o,-4d, to . 11 1% ° h ' OP Admit-list:Aim) ceetineedlio- offiee, 'he 1 languish as much a s * loteo 4re for . his iliiss ; but r e g ee tt lieYobeh: to put some cor:fideece in them. I bow tar the country tvo t ed b•-tiefit .by the eleasore: kelp,: HaLLAND kvzs ,ery sOrry . to 6Ce•. : erto• re- ! he would not sa y. T oe puNi e bolettess'he : woold, Vid'rvis-ogaiti entrusted to men who had so imero- ! homiever, aiiseit was bf trench Treater iipportanc,to' to iy . `'3'' waster! i hem alreadto - 1 - fe'woOdered how ! the dountryoaed } le , hoped it would not'be postponed Nve i r e biati could so couteliMent any set of tnen '. to coedit? their naierai impatience 'to get into place. `ion his p a tknowiedement of their coodua was . Lord GRANVlLL.LBvAsoWttosidered the propo tare T s "; The- NubleLned did not v/611 . 1.0 . 140 ; sition of Laid - Porjhester•very fair, a 1 .°r • the vote of teo i e words, but he thought, that Ildt Dill the I thepreqeding night. : • • • _•-.• 1. - i th e , i f - Y, but the whole . world were convittied' of i- . .Lord PORCHES - CI:It was auxiuus.-,that th,•Corti. bee n " ea raeity or Minioels - Their measures -had ; tifittee shotild 1;4,1111 eight. o'cl , ck,.• th.it it ought--re -10 so. fut tle,lhato;e , :relalif believed nia'goed was ; ceive the evidence of Earl Ctettha e, woo wa''then eer7oexp.edted in toe peninsula. As- to free Go- lin wailitt and iudispeed. Et- - LoN4htirlis.v.elleig! 'Pe; fo lle o n t.s , ills firm opinion was,. that for the pur- ' tObeexaininea until Heat howl, :lad he kir Cferttle-.)1 ti eel r defence . a I t Oiternment • could :not be too : then to deCide at - which side of the 1. - . louse the ini-o7 I)o r e c ' e ri ra 'le• The Noble Lot o ctneluded *lib sup- ' patietke lay. - -1 e il • • . . " 1' , Z ) .:,,, '- ' l.l ime.nrirrfent of the . Noble fl - iriOnt l\l'. MANNEIti Si;TTON opposed .tlee inottan. it -- • 11, 1 .1' c ' 44 'of Dee iOet Y SUPeorted i the amendment. couel lint, he eaid, be to veneti wittil-aty pablic .4,- 7 l'iunse'ttieti divided. • tonverielice the pestpoeiog ile. •Loooi!y , ior .it few ° . !..tho meoule Contents - - .99 hour), witiLe the business: before - tire tiotla waSsof • ' ort 6cAr ner‘drncn.r, ewitents ~ -43 • , Proxies . - 65-e24 the inost prel erg t mpottaeve, /to lie country. , Proxies - - - 52.-9.4 ' Tile (.'litiNc.t.it.i.ern ofthe Ex:cueductt rate.; amidst Tire Ix N•l4.lerity for rise motion - - - 34. cries o'r . - que.:,,i : (no question I. .audi - said he' coulk nut e ~ , o , - " cl ' is ad i'urtied S''FlAlf . 'o"t T'S' c l v e I ‘;.C IL I'' help mak, n,- sem, obse-vat tolls •oti •:whie,oad 'fallen , .. • ..., . .. , .., ... - • .. - • flou t iii! . r.T, , hie. Friend (Lard Go %,ver).ore tae -present , -re'OUSE OF COMIIIO2VS. ' yiVitio:).. ii' regrAti!d Coat his No;:le Frieridhad• bt th, oust' was stimmr;ned"tv the Deputy ILTSlier - u°t b€*" - . P't• .6`!.-"i iii the El`".lie.. at. thicc,l:7).l,',ell,c),'!'',i meta of the dettite to ha , e heal(' th e . t tired . 111,1 1 0,_,( tl . l r,a4+:;',41r,1t.1140 10 ht ai- his INfijesty'sCotittulssit'n ' to, ' 'he 1-f o o se - o i L o , e s. •o n o ho s noo k er ., re _ : 1t .. P . E1 HOU. Getq.l . !lll4i:l Opp , isite. I. (peso° tb -- hi. t : b(- ,eolon, ,that the Ro .. A .Ae,,,t -L--- was' declare d i fOiell*Hoese;li. , ,ts not !lOW one oftnere .preoe ice , tie,• I), "'ill Issi. o fight YH Henry - V II I 1,,,,,,. ~ -to the on. enry ees otos 'as to subjects Of discussien, but oolethet the I- (liso • weeetott e threatened attAirttitoe;ated by-tire meWie:6 , ‘ A . i i. ,"et, a:.d a NeuratizationAel. • the Of. 'hai = iisin , ' diviStons ' and ' :,-. d,.-e..larat ions, the if • ' L lt , to l "“"se frein toe LOrds , r.eidested that ' Pte., • ' '•• ! send them a Coll- cut' the Riith. Re- ' - aley did not now go into - -tOe:CosOn . tnittce. all .other' b i , ."t: ii,,. . . : . ~.), .•• . d 7 ,- - husitiess'will be teti“ . de..i,' attal. nothing will be done; -, lop , • • -rettte appetnieu to const er at the . i,,f.• ,iion.), s. e ml . • • T he Speaker' oe e , . .. ..o o, - iiont o asses. _ • This-was' the threht- of the Hen'. Gentleman, and if "..yielded t it, they would • stieW that they 'elk' "AP' AhosengerS,' tint- 1 .1 •6 - Rotate . would tht H°e4e 9 o .- • - . ati a , i 4rrersdered the tight .of Managing their ewe: deli-. Att'r by-:vier-nritrown.' • i . • berefions, and submit henceforwerd to the dictation In b, 4 ('QA•tmt. t• i'LF. , OPINQUIRY. . gt) tI 4 "`"Cltreirre of att. Ortier roAde . in the .1-louse of.the : Hon Geratlernan as to t . ha i t cow se 1119 , were • o k lti7j o ' lt ,."'ditig-,t)i 4 ,4lit tint'-the' 14Onse sheultt re- in every instance to follow.— .; le H .. 6 ,, 0 , 5e i s del , t e isa te t •ret - - `"r Into. the Corninittee . of Liquify into tfie. thean ta•ehandon their rights, •le tru)t _1 their' rode at:l eciii. i.lit to the Scoeldt this ;day - at ..ftetr o'clock,. would shove • the Hon. Gelitlemati that I they t e e d' I : ) e .n Ora te , of : I ile . b ay 7 haLfne c be e n at - c o rd i„, , .,l y ne ., it l het Labe thre.atened-nor . controuied in t tett - pro- Mk. 1.115. ... • 'tiOv e , i ''Otitill of Lord. PORCHEWI3II', Ili ! ; 'Lordship. . , . h '' tha'e 1 ' 04 e i'le SpoaKer shoidd leave the C hair`;': 6 Mr o istettertOospoke in favour of the rito:ton. tl utt, e- 1 - 111 , AtioN said, •he rose to orpOse the - ma- i . _- NI!" L'..'"? said, the- question for the 'Comtnitte of will', - ht ' '-use • - - • • . - Ili', , sC lie did not "conceive It consistent . .tetper . y. si tting this day at four o'clock, was nega .l4q) ';' P- ' -g‘' o (l of the.' country 'o, p , . stpone':ot her toed in tin' Committee last night; by a majority of klei(),r'';lit' business ‘4;b:Ch . stood. . for iiiicfrosn., ' . ore. But when the I-louse was resumed,', without to l e ' v '' - ich 'Alt not adinct . ' . 4f clelay. It aPpeared .' 'offering any argument, the motion . - was tn ade aeam,, Positll that-the'condeii .ot - Gettilemen at the op- . - when it.was only carried by a - majority of . two, t i o t'- sid t . , .„'aorT, - ttl• toe Hocse was texoeedingly ex _ t,' . The.ruestion being loudly called for, the House 4 11 , -. - ';'''"lY-- itt - 'pre-sing the resent . 'question. i divided. For the Speaker, leaVing the Chair, Chairo i ll t , 4 ,j ! tis' t3 !, % ' ° w ... ed . obled . vas tire removal ,: ef -his ! ' - • Ayes • Pr es .e -.Affintsleesi -, but - tie, doubted hatch, i th e - o n ! e .cllvelto • that would be; a measure for 1 riio ste ne fit ef the , ountrY: Inc. measure which I it, ts kiislied to have the preferenee this even= . 44 , dto o ,, e , ( ling the Distilleries, was a regulation of i. 7, th e . '",' 41 hot deterhiiiied iminediately, one . way v eno • Quer, ~,,,__ ..,. PUPA produee confusion o ,Whichithe o i !lb ""eh ' t 1 4t agi nod d the opposite-side otthe pouseprobably - "'as ' a as Prouiotiog the:ptiblic good, as long as t Ile e s .. lt ,' l ßred with their Er...e. , tirig bite place. It 'was_' It 00 5 ) to inform - ihe I : louse' tb,4lthe Distillery 1 Ntfo c \v ' i n font' ei ;lied' rot-iv Cla.. , S after the tom- tl • e tnent •' 1 I - . ' ' . t o ap s ,, i , (It tte. Session, thirty days had already s'lieloo - '' attdot single hour or day ordelity oii,ll4.trtt. 1 ‘ . 11 (. ,z . : detriMental to. the country.' The Gentlenaen .*?- 9 luat \ i• • . ere. a , , .- ,eu tee ntotton ; he was perfeetlY aware,- . ..kli e o ) '; 41995. in torn out. theillit . - sent Mittistors; but 1 4.o tio Lt i they sueceeded to Places "" :\I"JilYe 4 ,41i . ,,, S n Y.. could surely: out be to - them a matter of '. l ) e-o :r o r .. " 1 4t aoziety. He was therefore against the. Ilto t , e „, ' 1',22,-‘yingothe Chair, slim the House might • trieo.'m to (l iseusS` the stibjtiot relailng to tire Distil 'Geoeo...i niTßßEeti ohiertied; that thelcight Reit. lioeic;;tao intended him to 'pay and Iris friendszen Yik . lt r if ZuniPlirtient, by stating . .that -'bey had la'. • t4 tlr e ." ( # 4ll, sitt• of the present Minheers, 'WhiCh: It Y'.' ' Pi -nis ' d , rer.l wOuld be for the goOd-of -the coun bisters,..',.'ir of set Was.not only ttie removal,atNi• 1ei 11 ,,,,_ V,Lit, -also their ptaniihtn'eilt: The HOo..Gen 7 obi, ;'srl ad'aiked, if it was ihipoi i ant whether that day? ' 1 1_, , ‘" 34 )1d be accomplished on Moilday, or '.even sat i ll( i e vould say in reply, that it wits veryirnport -40t.i,,e,' d., b, cause; at tills moment, Ministers as:- Il e: . oi , t . with F.arl Chatham, the Master-Geneat of tt.,, Alanance;•ind Lord 7 l4 . 6lgraVe„ the first Lord I (i ' r oto rn ct etee al o i t Y ..; After' 'What - appeared before 'the , . •er• r0 ,... e0 . ti,iquiry,- and - Who' were now concert. In a ti.:l l us for sending outAroblis to Cadiz; aorleak, t rotr i l! e . Pest' of his Majesty , 30,000 Portuguese !, I '. l lltb r e ti ° ,", hl - , - i lleHott.'Nlember deity the fa - et ? Mr. ,"t.ll af , il b.srved, that -he and his fiittvls hat ; 4 1isi her - "sed • 'of wistitiny io - i)b-oruct „Vac- }tube . .)iy 4 ' tit vostiinhing Cie 8 .4 ~....,_ . ), 1 • - ' Dioiller • Ell Th , ; . ,ei sre presentation, and tie such thing,. ' If • Majority - - 44 , inSTIIIERY BILL; On the motion orMr. RosE, the House went into a' Coinmitte on the bistillery Bill, the Act for • prohibiting the ImPOrtatinn of Spirits from Ireland, and air instruction to extend the Bill. to Ireland, being alsb referred to the same Committee. • Mr. Ross then stated that the .ciretamstances of Englnel and Ireland -vvere widely different. in Ire land there was a sup.erahtinclant supply cif grain England and Scotland it was quite the reverie. It was not 'therefore his intention .to move that the Bill do •extend•ro Ireland ; but, in lieu thereof, to move for the continuance of 'the Act prohibiting the Impor ttrion of Sririts from Ireland. Sir J. NEWPORT opik)sed this measure is tepng nnot to the 11a of Union. It was hardly lair to al low the Imperial Parliament, by a forced interpreta .tiou of the spirit against •the letter Of the alit, explain away the work of two independent Parlia men tS. . , . - ativnntage, , at ..the expence of :England and Scot - land. .He maintained that !lit. house .ought to consider the., situation , of t he.!inanufa - 6416 ng classes of. • the- cotninunity; elpeciillY that . of ..khose• • the. North of - England,' who were but jest reco vering from :the severe pressure - they felt is _cats sequence of ~the late high - price of pro visions, ;They were ; in . a.‘great .. ruea . inre supplied ,trotri,;rer land ; , and tinles l the p ro hibi t i on was extended to: th?lt country, they. woiild reduced to the most perilous inconvenience. If _the : proposition was adopted, the supplies procured from :France might -be. - mot frotii - fieland, and the West India Planters • - woliid.have.the'benefit ofthe restridion all over the Aurnher, and it was nitwit better to promote th eir .Interests than t hose, of Buomiparte, t Sir JOIIN `&I3WPORT Opposed the resolution of the Noble Lord inia spee , :h of great ability, and anima- tion. He st. , itesl,,that if it were agleed to, the would. toltety ))o, to_ C onvert the tillage (if Ireland into pasturage', and wholly Jo r dehtroy the ' revenue Of that ctittirtiy, . . r.•Dt; oAs followed on 'thti.sitiue side; express ' nig his..detertninalion i to .shew that there was at least one C o unty 11.1einly,T . .Who aled frock a .sense of,geniral, and. not or partictilar 'interest. ). Mr. BoyLE : Cnai;itaine(l!lit! , ',xiseclieni7y of extend ing t he prohibition to . ; Mr:GRATTAN contended on. Centrarr, that: at ah,inattiediate injury on liel;nittl, and p•Jrinanc!ir injury on Etl,land and Sebaitid, by des troying ti spnrcqs . „froin ivhic-h :England Anti Scot = land now derived, and cnight lirreafter defilfesa.largo f . ti e . "ir :jct. port ion o . et e. Sir,W. 7 . - Wy inve objeaedto the prOhibition of in-toto. s ' • General T4at.ETok cashed, the prohibition to be eittended to Ireland. The in'terests of.t‘relve mil • 1-017 S ofp2Orile ought not to b 6 sacrificed to the it of Mr. WINDit..,N supported the propc?iition. • EOS'TER arguN: aaainst the elt.tebs;on of: the prohibition' t.n s irel,vad'.„-By adopting such Groat Britainn-a - tight incleed:sctite a mouth- - fill at tile piesent pllyneht,, - but it' would be at the risk of *;tillre scp.;city— Thg energies of Irele.nd• tiverkogr.at reTev, ainlot"g!it to i?e stimu lA:d ntrel castled. tottli•3 tint rei..AsA: S!inuttl the Irish t, prohi. itvd, frAnn distilling from graitr; it he i :0 s - uniy ay.; ci4iciency which ,ttc't a meaSurt• t o tit C.IS:C):) in tiv2:reveatlw:. . • TUItTON '..V .L 5 for tii.2 ou o qpstf tho Ali. W.,..iTERN Co i.d not coticor...in. io.flitingsuch a - i).-11,Aty on lreL.t i a, 'in -. t pruiAised by Abe ii9ble .1,9:a: -._. ' • - . Vui.Lnp, I:ept the' 1 - 14ttse in a to.i. r, coateude NV tit) , c'tery,Lici - 1 .t,lt I.;,..tllio:uan) fur the c . ....teutun Li proi, .to 1r •I;,liit. Sir Jolix dA supported the ne'dessi!y fur . •exteii.fin o pt.oit , bi;.i 111 t..) 'i'tie Copr.tiitto., then 4or - tbKl A. 1-14: . niltoi's Rolittio.n - . - . 63 • 110 ti proki4itipij k 4 I (Eland 1.44 z a ;eselution .c.‘"- than: vats. of the Coriiir,ii tee, thin ;he ot. the. 4A ± ,11.4 prestutt (the Aa tor &mil:biting . ine Sieirits between Great Bmain and' Ire in,l) be fo.rther continued." Atter a-short tlius-ion, in ivltteit Mr. Parnell,. Sit J Newport,. Mr. -1411.4ter,Mr. trutchinson, and Mr, W. Smith, p.trtigiwited, the Resoikation . was agt-Qed to without a division. The House it ts :ng,b9ert . .4esutntd, the report vies received, the Resolutions agreed to, aucl.it was ordered-"thatiChe an instruction to the Committee en,the Probihitio9 that theyshould make, provisions in conformity to the said Resolu- On the 'friction of Mr. AOSE, the gow4e resolved Itself. into - a Committee on the Distillation Prohibi tion Bill, in wttich . clauses corre:pnitdent to the re. solntionsjust agreed to were inserted into the Bill. The House having been resumed, the report .was ordered to . bereceived to-rnotrow: - T.. . ' On thc motion of LOrd Peacsaqtatt, ' the House , resolved itself into a Committee of Inquiry into the Tolley and condua of 'the Expedition to the Scheldt. —Strangers were immediately excluded. THE INQUiRr. DefINUFF.S OF EVIDENCE, Taken! before the Committee of the whole Muse. appointed. to consider of the Policy aial Condutt of the late hipedl, tion to the Scheldt. El,Ciirrit DAY; rss. 19. • • hear-Admiral Sir 11;tctt ARn kitATS called in, and, • examined by the Cop:a:Wee. • • '• Were you constilted With' by any of his Ma jesty's Ministets previously to the sailing of tire pedition ?• , ;-1 was not consulted by, any of I,is Ma jesty's Ministers, -but' I 'bad a conversations with Lord Castlereagh at Ptkal, which I did n.ot'conaider to be. Official. • it was merely-aceidental., . •• Did that conversation regard the Enedition It - • Have the g oodness - to state the sub3!ance of that` ..conversation, and the.chte oil ct ?-4 firs; re:late(' to ~the..state Of 'the Weallier,. whit.lll repteented as a very .untavotriablebatelt of weather at thlt season Of. the year ; the date I. believe wai the Q4th of July, Lord: A. 1-1401tr.TON contended, that it had been -, the day before I received my orders •to .proceed off Arced- by . Nlr. Rose himself, that bis motion, for I- Walcheren., His Lordship ",buentioned to int then extending the Bill to Ireland should take the prece- k . the objeet, of the Exnedition,. and spoke of. the: ,deuce. measures Jo' bo, pursued. -I observed to his Lord- . After !some conversation, Mr. Rose acceded, and , .ship, that if the fleet of th:e enemy at,Ant•.verp was with vr dre: , his , rnOtion. ". i • considered the great ob ject of the Expedition, ,that I. Lord A. HAsiwroN then moved, thatthe Bill do hoped we should' not find mil Sczbies involved- in th,e a : extend to Ireland. If there was sp superabutt- siege of .Flushing,! or the opeeations ,in Walcheren, 'dance of gram id Ireland, his LOrdship asked,how it .1,,1Nt that we should .proceed on to the ultimate object happened that special licensei were granted to without delay. On his Lords!,ip lutltioning me as port grain into this country from France. te,-my knoWledge .of Walelterea . , I tztfortnc•d him • liton. , C. H. HoTentkisoN opposed the resolution 4 ...,that I had no. other than What I procured Irons the injorithm to - the Agricultural interests of Ireland, charts .) , and that.l . conceived from that knotyledge, FITZGILIIALD argued _op the same side. t that'the better way 'probably would be to go up the There had been a deterioration of revenue to the East Scheldt; hid Liji•dship rej,lied , tha t atpount of Oda dliiiidD; id consequence of the sus;..,, ; beenin_cOntemplation', but thatiehal given pension. - , up on a further , consideration. also rePresente% Sir C. gURREL:L VV4s Against sacriftcittg the gene- ; from the very, bad batcti.of w e a th e r we-badat that . , ral interests of-the country to the particular intereit time , I much feare d, .unless a favourable change of any part. took.place, that-we ran great ri,k by Carrying zt &et -sir Roattr te• r Pgtttitiidnot perceive the justice so very Matuerous upon chat coast, tor that cet taint; , . . w of, the - complaints: of the 'Members for - Ireland.- • the weather was of a"worSe stamp than e might That particular 'country had no right to a peculiar leaso,pably have txpeeted at that gown. of the year. •,,. that was , the suhstance.of the conversltion thatl had with Lord..Castlereagh..= Can.' you state. what further, corrrersati n n t oo k place, in gonsequenc,e of your suggestion that time, should be lost.in the attack of ; •Walcheren rind Flushing.?—Gard Castlereagh rather heard wfrit I had to appeared desirous, I thought, of asking me partic9farly, .nor do I . remember if he made any . observation ,upon that subjed. . Do you know whether any _plan was.coneerted for the attack of Antwerp ?—i-No I do not. I know' .that A.ntwerp was the ultimate. obje4 - of the-lixpe dition, but as to the plan, I krviw not of ani - ; ez• cept tbat I unlerstood :part :of thefleet were to have gone up the West Scheldt; butille tundeof - attack ktpon Antwofp I did not.know, nor did I even know at that time the place at which it was inten :led' to diseinbark Ate.. army. In the first question I wits asked, whether ; I was conNuited by his' Majesty's Ministers;. I. shook state, I was sent fo to /Own, and was informed by-the First *Lord o f the Adrni..- ralty that. I was ,to; gn.upon the Exoediti , ,ii, bn r was not consuitgd;,,l w-is only informed that I was . to go; and - I,vhat obiea of the Expedition was, and.t4s.Pflicers_ that were going, UM I was asled no question. , • EA . great part of the renriinder of the evLlmte r•Attes ,tothe progress of the Naval part the Ex pedition, which, has aiready beets fully detailed: We shall extead the most passages. 3 ' • • , Were you acqminted. with the - stat-: art -Litlo, and the boom , across th e river at that plac e '--:I bad the advantage only.of seeing Lilo within a liew mites fretwthe.sitip in which ntyflag was hoiiierl, and on -My. approaching nearer. it-du stnaller Jesse's, I - :vas never nearer I presume than three miles And A half" or fonr i!ie boom was .eatly thrown across, I am not certain .ot the day, tor 1 ain not`sure we . pe. - ,:ce4ed, it immediately, but 'th ink it must have been thrown a,:ross of A no, t: , Dayou tale/111 tat lu • not thrown ficros3 t!,e tflth of . 'August '?—itheir flu rclif:(.! to . the,, I I tit, ort the arrival of Ohr fi ailla t . anci,l thnik.on the- lath went above the boorn;.;.l oink on the 13th or the . 1 : 14h the 1300111 was thrown across, „when their flotilla was all above the boom, , - xtas:tbeo. that..,the b , :nai 'was deied ; probably it •nad been constra aed souk time befofe. ?—I pre sonip,it :Is always in. consirudii.in ready to be ttr..own acroe; . _ Were you eonsulte.l: with, reepea to the poseire. lity of.forcieg the passage ;:t a CO' °Nivel) On. eec Rllb . j!.o . of ,ii!O cl shoick evillerey:LorePieeetlevei, l',l ti ei , .7 , r_i fs '.z t t l ra A tit. an': and set era; ieei.eee! Cielesees, i Aeeest. " Stet . what took place in th"e t t 'eeepecied etwOct eof the areiy rud tee 'eke:- SOYA .. .6 bi rah.. i ' , or • .2t:tting tetie LierkenSlebeile, but the . leo ;end() i being ope to teli6te the river narrows, a little . . - it was to sidereei by Sir Richerd Strachan thee uo further measures cin,tl.l be taken in peetee uteen of th'e 'ultimate olejeti •but iu Coi‘junteibn with. the adny. . , • - '\\yree it your opinion alit the' boom could linve been forced . ?-1t the boom could been foiced,. I see' - no possible zeood that could lreve e stilted from it, except the fot of Lillo arts" Lief kenshoeik 'could haVeteeneeken poseeision of. S4pOstnel it peseipossible,for e the , shipping . to, .hav e praseeaded up t Sch'ildt - towarde Antwerp, ite case the artny were compelled to retreat, would it 'have been pose:ble fur the large vessels to have eifeeted their retieat except with.a very favourable wind.;-- I . bald it impossible (or the fleet to leave pe;ised tip .the Scheldt, unaccompanied by the army. Their return in the event of the:army retreatiog, ttl that narrow naVigation, 'trust have been - greely depend.- . ent -upon the winds ; tor I believe the ehatmel t 4 in some places so narrow, that it would have been Un -praklicable to have tided it down. • e Then there would : have been danger that the 'fleet; -in its retreat, woeld not have kept pace With the retreat of the army 1-4 think, with eitrong Westerly winds, the fleet might not have beerfable to have got down but with a change of vein.% Is it your opinion that the fleet could not have proceeded up to Autwerp,..unless the army were in possession both of Lillo and Liefkenshocik It is. * Bupposiqg the army in possession of those forts, ' could the fleet have proceeded and returned .with safety, if the French were in posiegsion of the bark ofethe rive; between the forts old Antwerp?---1 think there would have been considerable risk, but with such ari object in view, I am of:opinion Sir Richard Strachan would have attempted it. H e aveiou any reason to believe that' the forts of. LillO and Lief kensheeik were .not in a state of de fence. when the armament sailed . froin Eugland ? I *line to the opinion that there were few troops in the country on our first arriaal ; lett I do not know that those forts' were not perk:-.tly garrisoned. ... Have. you any reason to, think that the fertific).- lions of illo and,Liefkenslioelk were not in r, state of - ant - they I,vere not. provided with de6rice, d [he , Sufficient meet :'.r ot guoe at Ole time o" tilti :Kling of the Esi.eJuiuti" . ? -,No, .1 , -have ,• '1 nteant In -Mll.4lo , toArnOpsi eves of opireon tee coun try Was almost destitute _ cxf at the time of our :first arrival: • ' , . . Then yon have no reason. to think diet :the'forts Were not in 3 -perteti state . of elefeece with respect to their works, at the "tiine of : rile - feet arriVa; ? No, certainly not. , • ' - • ' • i'eFeCirte the extent of the works of Lille and Lief ..kenslioeike." do they require requite many - Then to tegertiSteilethem ?—I do not know' the extent of works, but I should apprehend they must requite 'same 'hundred tnen 'at leeiit to garieson them. Supposing there were some hundred men 'to gar-. rison tlutie torts, would it not hive been imposeble, until those forts had been reduted by evert-, for the fleets to have co-operated in any attack upon Ant werp ?-e-The fleet cre:ld hot have - co-opereted in an` attack epon :Antwerp above Lillo aitd Liefiten shoetk. uetil they were reduced. Had_yote any knowledge of the state of the forti ficatiptis of Antwerp at the time you arrived at South .Beveland ?—I had not, -, 1 Had you, any knowledge of the amount of troops - in. Antwerp on the etli of August ?—No; there were various.reports-as to the state of Antwerp; 'some stating Antwerp to be destitute,-others she •' reverse.. it 4 11 ~~