The Sun. — London, England, 1808-04-13 00:00:00

Lord . did not seem ,to think c . ‘yupet, g lia 4 fri4neri niciorci, non a i etrtfieri per filura.". form edha4 .• his scheme, no on the sirople. Oen of ancient drama, but lid I, l ntrodtieed , ''eillt he linatle and utci , 7 . , dent, all t ipPlit,sticcessiOn' of exits end entretices, all the surprising 'and w itinsecal . ehangesof scene of modern. comtidy ;: and 'he Contrived also to keep, his. audience in a delightful suspense ; as to the catas trophe of 'his_ composition, wlsaterr complication, however, there might be in the mean, the end ' must necese,irily be 'simple. There Were two cibjeas, ' to the attlihmient of which every military system must be.,tiii - eaed. The firit was to provide an ade quate supply for the regular artny 7 —tie second to, guard again it the'dangerefinvasioli from a foreign foe. With Vespea to the first, the Noble Lord very pro-, perly had abstained from smiOg Apy r thilig„ fbr the regular army wps sufficient; With resp4t to the se , coed, which, to describe it sabre fully, was the cols 'sideration of the best mode of reederieg the remain tag part, of . the population of the country available to its defence from external attack. With respea to this object he differed very Materially from the Nable Lord. When the Noble Lord profeseed to speak candidly of the Treining A&, he expected that he would not treat it fairly, and so it . had proved. He hid never expected that from-that measure any very considerable advantage would be, derived, except as it tvaS a meads enrolling a.large proportloe. of the population of the Island, „and kegping,tt us readiness to be made use of 'on an emergency in any manner that - might be, tin - ight advisable.' He denied that thatAneasure Was oppressive, as stated by the Noble Lord; . L on the contrary, the extent of its advantage bad been' dirninlithed expressly for the purpose of rendering it less burthensome than it would other wise have been. The Noble Lord, however, bad chosen to describe he. Training Ate as a Measure calculated to produce the mast dreadful efreCtse•aS'a raw head and bloody bones, which•had alarmed the' • whole country. Now what Ved the Noble Lord done to even these evils ? proposed a memsire ten times more en 'ormous upon the people. 'He ;IA: . posed to take a man to a distance learn his home, and to compel him to undergo military discipline for twenty-eight days-. Did the Noble Lord 'contem plate the injury which the iebabitants of the eiatrifry would sustain- from such a proceeding,. not only in a ; pecuniary but also in moral point of view? He Would advise hint to ask any sober and serious Magistrate' what had b e en the consequence, in many inatehees, of'. putting a volunteer corps from the countryttlion Permanent duty its a large town. Ttie Noble: Lord kepi the' Training Mt Bill, but gave it additional farce and vigour. He. (Mr. 'Windham) Wished it had been kept a; left by him, but if not; that:lts iri-ers had been correeted ; still, however, retaining ts spirit as s Training 811 merely. And here f t he' Came to the great question between 'himself arid the Noble Lord, namely, as to what the Noble Lord called men regimented and mee 'unre gitnented. The Noble-Lord stated, that men trained its pursuanCe -of the -Training Bill,. if 4mited to a regiment, instead of conituOtlicatine strength. syeuld only create Coofusion. But would the- additional training proposed by ,the Noble Lord produce any very. superior effeas ? Antj altered!, were these men to a& aa individuals ? - syLIA it pr6bahle ,that they would be sent to join regiments ordered on imme diate service ? I:7,yea in that case they would t 4 )e bet ter than the volunteers with the iocumbrattee of their Officers, for to talk ,as the .Nolte Lord had . done of the Reports of the Field Officers, who had 'declared that many of the volunteer corps were fit to • as with the linee appeared to bier, to be most eh wird and childish. Would-any experienced Officer venture to cover his flank in action withsuch Men ? If he wanted to maintain the possession of 'an ,irn portent post, would he trust to the proteaibiT of such - a raw band ? Where troops were assembted to in a great body, a failure ; in one point endangered ' the safety of the-whole; and it might es'Well be supposed that an Adthiral would admit 'articiret the 7. Ships of the Line, which constituted his : bider' of battle, Frigates or Vessels of interior force, as that a General should Admit into the arras of his attack or defence, men, who °though they were ilreSeed and . wore the appearance of soldieler, were, from indvitable circumstances, incapable efficiently to tier Operate with regular troops; oti that footing. there fore he contended that the volunteer system was dee lusive, and so would be that of the compolsory militia. He entered into a .verY!detalled state. 'vent of the progressive advantages - which the Country was deriving from the plans adopted on his suggestion when in Administration, and con-' tended that they were broken Up for the ' sake of recurring to, that practice, so contrary to the usage of all otheie ages and nations, the enlist• rnent of soldiers for life. In the plans proposed by the Noble Lord, lie could not help suspea-- ing that there was_ a view ttipatranage and influence, / When the, volunteers patsed into regihsents, proe posed by the Noble Lord, those regiments must, have officers, and every appointment of that dee' scription would convoy to he granter a certain de gree of patronage and influence. Of the solicitude of -the present. Administration to secure to them helves as much influence as possible 00, this subjeti; he could afford to the House,a tolerable example, His Majesty's late Administration bad proposed an extension of recruiting officers, and had particularly wished that they should be takers' from the half-pay' list of the army. Abotit liOneofficera were so up- ' Pointed. But when his Majesty's present Ministers came into office, they substitoteil 5000 Oolunteer - serjeants. Now the 200 regtilar Officers obtained „ „ 200 0. recruits, in the.. sa m e l eng to :tat time that it • cost the 2000 voluoteer serjeants to obtain This was the rule of three . inverse. "Aye, but," the Noble Lord would, say, " the regular officers had :401. a man, while the volunteer Serjeanta had but tol, teman." Prue; but ihe former were nOder ' an en4agement to refund the money advaneed to them„ if they failed itiproeuting recruits; the letter were•allowed to retain it at all events. Whilethe Noble Lord Coot inued to recomniend. the predigious' expellee; which the volunteer system, occasioned, it • was absurd to talk of the pitiful savings which wire the subject of diseassion yesterday evening. It was e farthing of Wisdom, but a pound of folly.- mil ' lion a - year might. dedui9ed from the expense of the volunteers, and the'couturf be touch benefited by the circuinstence. • „. e. Lord CASTLEREAGH in' explanation, denied . that he had a6andoned th e Ri g h t Ho n. G entleman ' s • training system. All he. wished was not to carry it to eteater lengths than whatewas necessary. - With respeft to the recruiting officers f otn we arilly,allua.. ed to by11ie . ..j194. :Gentleman, they WCrt 400 in nurnber_when he catie into office, and mere rapidly . increasing, Aerjeant. WAS attached : to. each, -so that the expence ,to the country was considerable. ; It had therefore ben detertniued by his, Majesty's Government,4hat k t hose among thew .who had notT evinced any exertion, should be dismissed., The" volunteer . serjeat4s had otlly coipmissions, given them to enlist, but no sum, utiless - the wen w e re raised, 'Certainly. the :Inspecting 'Field s (Akers were all Owed to make advances to those serjeants, and the only reason why no bond of security was. given-by them on thdie advances, was; the large duties on such bonds, Mr. Wtiv n n.nsr eXplained . . General I'ARLEITON contended; that the time for making a radical reformation' in an army was peace and dot war; and that the army in this Min try, if a'proper disposi,tion were Made of it, would be amply sufficient, without the NositiOri. of any, additional burt hen 'upon ihe people by dallot or other.. . wise, to repel Whatever enemy might venture to at tack us. The path,:tie manner in which the Hon. Gentlerrian had so'repeatedlY deplored the subversiOn of his military system, reminded hirdoi the lamen tation of Rachel,' 40 according to the Scriptures, " could not be comforted.`' • 'Among other regula tions which 'fie thought it Would, be adviSeable to adopt in the preient itincttire, he strenuously recom mended the formations of Camps for the exercise of our army, both regulars and Militia s He was coo-,, vinced.lsb, that if tIA irolunteers were united for a time to regular troops for the purpose of sharing in their discipline,. and of being instructed by. their examplt , !,. - it 'would have an excellent effect, by awakening their dormant spirit, and by inspiring the whple of our military force with enthusiasm and patilotistn, ' Leave was then given to bring in the 13111. SIIPENDIARY:CURATES. • • The 'CHANCELLOR, of the ES.CHIM UER moved for leaye to bring inT -- a for making more effectnal provision tar th.e.maintainance of Stipendiary Curates, and for their residence - on their Cures. fie . Pre faced -his motion with a . speech of considerable length, in which he described the three faiiuree 'Which. this measure . had already experienced h 4 1,1 Parliament, contended that those failures by no' rnestts precluded., success in the present instance; aild'repeated all his former arguments as to' the Pro- 1 - . priety and necessity of the measure. _••• A very long discussion ensued, in which Lord. PORCRE,IIER, Mr. ette,Evci, Dr. LAWRENCE, and Mr. WINIifIANI, argued warmly against the mea sure proposed, as trenching materially and unjustly upon the rights of one set of men, for the purpose bienetitino• another. The measure was as warmly ad voCated by, the CuANcELA.ottpf the EXCHEQUER and, Mr. BAD . INGTON. Leave was then granted. Ordered, on the Motion ofMr. CaELVEy, after. a few obsematiOns . from him,. Mr. Iltisxissox, ud CHANC . ELLOIi Of 1110 EIi:CHELAUR : ; that there be laid below the. lionse an Account qt the Proceeds of all the Droits of 4dtuiralty received by his Majesil in ilic riglit_of hil i crown, and as High Ado:Aral of .linland, - from the year 1 , 792 to .theyear 1802 it;- dusiVe. .Mr. Rustt brought up tiv Ilepcirt Ott the Cot: ton Weavers' Petition ; whiat was ordered to be printed.. . he Irish Recognizance Bill pawl& through a Gcnnthittee, and was ordered to be reported this' day. Sir ART,HOR WF:LLESLRy brought up the Reports of the Irish Customs Fees Abolition Bill, and the Irish 'Promissory' Note Bill, which were agreed to iieverally i ;Rid .ordered to be read a thirdtime to- morrow., hlr'. . , brdught up the Report of the Cbmcnittee of Supply; the further consideration of which was deferred to this day, on the suggestion of . Parnell refetring to the state of the House, antk acce&le4 to by Mr. Foster, in order to give the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. P.) at opportunity of producing bis catechist o to a.fuller' House. REPORT OF THE ,BUDGET. Mr,WitNicroti brought up the Report Oldie Oonl nittee of Wilys•and Means; upon one of the Rest ; , lutions of wliich, relpeaing the additional Duty otf Country Banks; a short conversation took place be:, tix:ten . Mesars.,TimmEy and PAANELL. QH one side, rind the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEdiAR, Mr. ROSE, and Mr. HuStsassoN,.on the other ; the , for, trier wishing the Resolution to be' postpatied, on the ground that. no eVidence was produced to the House as a ground for the cdditional tax ;. that it. held out advantages to Bankets whose notes Were . payable in two places, without affording any additional security to the bolder, and would runt the honest. trader with small capital, whose hinds would not cliaNe„liim to establish creditfii London. :By:the latter it was urg ed, that thotigh ty)ailual:Cellateral security: was 41 7 . Lorded by the notes. being 'payable in the Country, and In London, ,the holders of them had ,a ,positive evidence()fate existence of some capital afforded by the' credit in London, that the .13anker.whose notes. werd payable only in one place traded with equal -. advantage and less expeuce than the ether, and wa.4 thercfiire. U proper ohje of increased .diity, and that the objet of, the addition was as meat to discourage, persons Withont capital from engaging in this-trade; whiCh was often prodii&ive of great loss to the per sons reposing credit in their solvency. The Report, as then agreed to, and a Bill 'ordered pursuant . thereto. On, the motion 011ie CuANCaltott of the Ett enap,Uka, the CoMMiitee on the further considers-, tioii of the Petitions ag - pinst the Orders in Council,; was put off to this day, and the . several . persons.sum- Awned' to attend. , Ordered to attend accordingly. The Spirit DifiWback hill pasped through a_ Corn mittee,and was ordered to be Aported to-day. The Irish .Glebe Houses Bill was read a second time, committed, and the Report brought up which Was ordered to be printed,- and taken Into further consideration on Tuesday, the 2tith instant. • The Committee on the' Assessed Taxes Bill stitti put off to this day. • A new Writ- Was ordeted for the Borough of Sandwich, in The room of Admiral Raibier, deceased. Adjourned at One o'clock: MAILS. • AP it c 111,1).-1 Dub io , .s Wateilard. Duz—s Coltenbursh, %%tate/fold. VKICE. OF STOCK% THI3 1).1 Y AT TWILV K O'CLOCK. COniol6 TH P, 8 , U V..' • , to L au.Quis TALsinic.AMDLATI • ' r : L 0 D 0 N, WEDVESDAY, APRIL 13, 1 SOS. WE are at length crmblcd to communicate to our Readers authentic intHligence respe4ing the Roche .fqrt Squadron. All the accounts which have reached Its through the medium of American Captains—all the statements which were so artfully inserted in the French Papers, respecting the Rochefort Squadron having passed the Streights, into the Mediterranean, appear to have been wholly without foundation.— The RciChefort *Squadixin did not pass the Streights, but directed their course Tor the West Indies. The Abraham., ftdru St. Domingo, arrived at Lan caster on Monday lat, and has the following Intelli gence inserted in her Log-book, by the Hon. G. .A. CaOkTON, of His Majetty's Brig Demerara, who had been dispatched to Bermuda by Sir J. T. D,UCK-• WORTH, off Mat Unique ; and wsi on his return to the Leeward Wands is Monday, 14t4 March, lat. 30. long. 63. 4t. " On Monday, 7th inst. the Mullet Schooner felt in with a French Squadron, consisting of six Sail of the Line, , one a three-decker, in lat. a t . N. long. 6g. W. steering W.N.W. and kept company with thew three hours." The above important intelligence, we,understand, was fully credited at the Admiralty, and was.putup at LLoto's. From the last accounts which' reached us from the West Indies, We think there is a great probability that DUCKWORTH will. fall in With, this Squadron. From the latitude and longitUde iu which the French.. Squadron were seen, there can' be. little doubt that they were going to the Chesapeake, and: if our Calculations "are not very . erroneous; they wl' meet the British Squadron somewhere about the mouth of: that . River. Sir Joas left Dominica . for St. Domingo on the: 16th .of February, 'and . in the event. of his not finding the-French at the lat-, ter Island, ;he would proceed dire& for the chesa. pOke, :where he would,, probably arrive about the Bth of March. The French Squadron,' judgingfrom . the latitude and longitude in which,they were seen by.the Mallet , would reach the C4hesapeake about the 12th. There appears, therefore, strong reason to hope that we Shall soon receive a satisfadory account of thiS Squadron. .Qua Readers need not be reminded of the attacks the,Opposition Writers upon our Naval. Adtuiui t.ti'atlone and our repeated contraOtions of all their false reports relative to the state ,of Sir Rtettatin STRACIIAN . S, squadron as to provisiens, thq,,want - of which, it was alledged by those Writers, preventp' ' him from immediately pursuing the. Rochefort &Ina deen. The Letter liOln Sir R. S - 14tACHAN, whieb we inserted yesterday', fully justifies . all that we stated in- contradidtion to those insidious and niale volent reports, for in that Letter, : Which is dated . the 16th of January, he says, " I feel.most sensibly the prompt' ifinn 'which' has been paid to the Wants ,of,the Squadron ; ' the liberal relief .. whia: their Lordships have been pleased to send has te moved all unfavourable state of the weather alone prevented Sl i y Rtetraan froM gettliik lii thd whole - of . the supplies - ,till the igth and It was not till the 93d Oat' he first rgeeiv'eii ntelligende of the escape of the Enemy, The same . uufavourable state of the weather, " the most tempestuous that he had ever experienced,' tained liim in the . BaY till the 29th.. After such , a complete,. confirmation of all we , Said in contra diaion to the -'malignant rumours' alluded to, no further comment it necessary on outpart. We liave received soth more Fureig,n Papers, ,xtraas from which will be found in a aubsegusent Column. Lour) ts.sit.zia.tott last night brought forward 'his Plan for improving the Intern , :l Defence of the Country, The.leadinobjea of thictueasure is the establishment of a Local Militia ; to be raised by• Ballot, and by Volunteering. Every Person , balloted . is to ierve iti'perion, no Substitutes being, allowed, c3t= cept in very Particular cases. I.'he rrntining is to pro— ceed'imPoace as well as War, and each person is to serve foiar years ; so that in time thetwhole population of the country will ha trained to the Use of arms, The artioiiitt of the Local - Militia, to tae called out. in the first instance, is 60,000. We are prevented by want atonal fromoffering any comments upon this Plan ; and Must refer our Readers for the details to the achnitilble 'Speech with which it was introduced by 'Lptets,CAriLitAßA. MAJ ESTY. Princesses Avoucra. and Si3pitiA, took an airing on horseback in Windser Pail:, soon 'after ten, aitended by Lady ALIIthA Cued 8 BELA rip, Count Mu NSTRIt i Getter4S GWYNNIE 'FITZ ROY, "Colollel TAYLOR, and Mr. Vtuttats they returned to the Palace about twelve. ThL-Gaiette of last night contains a Letter from Capt- 8.Q1.11' ERIE, of hits Majesty's Ship Ateibisa, g ivin g all kcceent of his having eapturc.l . . on the 4 t h, cljf,Lugger Privateer, of Dieppe, mounting 1 4 guns. ran idiv rATELLIGENCe. PRIVATE, CORR P_SPONDENCE; *BANICS . Oi'DFIE Ez.nk , MARCII . Ex . pedl: . lion againsf Sv, - ed'en - appears' to be for the pi•eient' abandoned. Oct the 27th nit, the French and Spanish Troops= received notice. that 'thong!) they ought to- , hold themwlves in` diii - stant ieaditiess triareb, the - itxpedition Wou!d not take place, ai VINS intended; at the beginning of the present mouth bui furtherorders from Paris were waited for. 'Some . attribute this to the Necroiiatione whiCh have laieLy . taken place bqtween Marshal BEIINADOTTE and the PaiNca We have had a report here from Eliineur, ;.',OOO men, of the Hanoverian Legion, in thirtytorte Transports, cont'pyed by two Ships of.the Line and a Frigate; - had. landed near Gittenburgh, and that more troops Are . expeaed. There are now, it is said, four English. Ships of the Line, four Frigmeg, and some smaller` essels; in the Frarbour.q . Got ten burgh; and, according to some private Letters, fif teen more British Ships of the Line, and derable body, of troops,.are speedily- expeded there. The Sw ; cdishConsul GRA r‘r , who hasben under a 1.,. rest for some time at Copenhagea, has been sentenced' .to pay a tine of 3000 rix-dollars for his 'imprudent condlid during the stay of . the Englisli :Ships of War there. A Merchant of the name 6f LUTKINS has : ' likewise been sentenced to a fine of .:Jock, en a shnilai: charge. A very respedahle Commercial House irt. : this part of Germany, h as rece i ve d- a d v i ee from a Correstioncient'aT Marsellic; ; ;het ever since the be glrf n lug of , last.month, all tivt carriages in theSozith ofFrtince have been pt t . in replisition to early pro visions to Toulon, to vidual and supply the Fleet. A . total - chauge of Govz..,rnmt4nt seems to, threated liome, Where Frenct.Troops, it is expeded,;will , seize the treasures, 44 . the Convents, in the same manner as they did in Portugal. The French Gene-, ral Miouts, when' h e entered Borne, ordered ca n - ~ , non to . be planted before the. POpe's Palace; but ori his Holiness expressing great uneasiness, and Making many Complaints, they Were. removed. AcCOUntS from Magdeburgh say, that the EntPe.;' ror 'll'ive.oi..eoY, notwithstanding ail the represeuta= tions made by the .Deputies from: that city, and even the inteteeikn of* new Sovereign, insists on the arrearp of the war contribution, threatening, if they are not pdidis to rnarci) 39,p0.0 wen into tne au by 'of - Maidetiurgls, now the d4arttnerit of the Elle. The war contribution wps in the witA i2,1e9,076 livres, andnitust be pi . , at ttared times; to a Catii mittee appointed for that purpose by the King of 'Westphalia. .According to sonze. private+ advice s, a great Tram port, With provisions, boond to has been La . 1 4(42 by the Is'ng.l4l. PLYMOUTH, AP4I,T., 1,.-.--Artiv'ed the lielterf:Ao n ;', of ,7 4 gut”i,froin•Torbay ; the Pioner Sloop of Wa r , from a_ . ernize 3 arid : the 11plin, from Ntadei - 6, with .wine andfrnit for ihis.Port. Sailed the Pailtts, Frigare'on a crnize to the MieS t ward, rtie Unicorn Frigate is come into Harbour to refi't. PORTS11;104TII, APRIL, t 2. -- - -S ailed this 0;17 tht Goshawk Brig, C.ipt.. frrNris,. Peacvok Brig, Cart. PRAM:, and Hardly and Dapper Gun-brigs, on 5 ,- .).pa rate orteze,s, .Ile .Dryad Frigate has eipfuroti and sent into this` Port. the French PrAiateer .13ri,g Le Reitnitr, of "; Bourdeatix. A' letter frOm Gibraltar, orthe .23d ult. gives the following , particular4 of the progress of the French in'Spain :—"‘The provinces of Catalonia, Navarre, and Biscay, no longer helot% to the Spanish Monar chy. They are taken rioskession of by the FrenA troops Land the Grand Duke of BURG has publishwi a Proclamation, st:iting that this inettsurn- is. taken for paciat purposes, This Proclamation has oCeasioned falLin the Valei i from .6J:to 60. The nuMber *of French troops whiCh have entered Sean* 'exceeLls • i.5u,0 00 two:" • A letter 'frail cateutta; dated the ed of Decem her; Mires, that Sir Gioacm BARLOW' was proceed ing to Madras, in the Sceptre Man of War. IVl oitAm MONF:r, Escf.'accompanied him as ins private Secretary. • We are sorry to add, that apprehensioni Were entertained of a Mahratta war. On Monday,morning a. man, who'is 48 years of age, and Weighs I ti stone, undertook, for a weer of 2,0 guineas, to run 'on yards;, while tied in a tive,, bushel sack, in six minutes, in NVindsor Park.. ,'=fl started about „seven O'clock, in the Long Walk BertOrtned his undertaking in three titinutestand 4t svcands; to the astonishment of several hundred spee-I_ tators, who were,assembled on the occasion, RORBERY:---A person very well'dressed, went on I?riday evening into • the shop of ,"fir: ,KEATINo i jeWeller, in the Strand ; and asked to look, at some diamond rings. Mr. KEATINo's man having some l'etson for suspicion, shewed him only pisk On", which the caber, d ou b t l ess cons i dered as cliamonus. 'Undok pretence of sheaving something ,valuable of his own, the tellow palled out a small hag of snuff, threw the contents into the shnprnan's eyes, / and ran otT with four of the prick rings, while tbe poor man was agonized with , blindness and pain. • CORN ,EXCIIANOR, APRIL la:—There are sqveral fresh arrivas of Wheat to-day—t hat of second and - ordinary cipalityis at less price'; auley is ready sale. and full ,as dear ; Malt and Beans df 11 64 1 1 sorts 'vary but little; having large- supplies of White Pe l ose, „. partly,,from Sweden, causcis reunaton in pi kje, tins ' week of full t Os. per gparter ; and the O.:114 , fully a t last prices; flour without alteration.