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IMPERIAL PARL jAMZiVT. HOUSE OF PEERS, ?AWAY, JAN. 29. Lord HAui.gS.UtlllY itatec.Vthitt owing to an omis sion of the Clerk, who ct►pied the Motions which he Wade yesterday, the' name of Major-General Thoinas Grosvertor was omitted in the Vote of Thanks. every. one wholnew that g►►llant,Oificer knew also but distinguished merit and the services he had ren dered his country. He therefore begged leave to ratify Mistake, by moving to insert the name of the aouve Officer in the Vote.—Ordered. His Lordship also moved, that the acknowledg ment of the services of the . Seamen and Marines. Should be communicated to them by the Captains of the respetkive Ships.-.-Ordered. Adjourned till to-morrow (this day), when their Lordships go in procession to Westminster „4.hhey. HOUSE OF COMMONS. EnDAY , , JO. 29. The SPEAKER acquainted the House; that the Recognizances on the Petitions complaining of un dee Electioos for Shrewsbury, New Mallon, and .Liverpool, which had been entered,into during the last Session, not having been renewed in the pre sent Sessiou, he had, in pursuance . of the AEt of Parliament, certified that default to the Court of Exchequer. Mr. *MITFORD, from the Office of the Com inissioners of Customs for Scotland, presented an Account of the number of Ships employed from that Country in the'Whale-tishery, of the quantity idol', 64c:- procured.---Ordered to lie on the table. Sir C. l'ot:e gave notice, that on Wethresday next be would move for leave to bring in a Bill . to amend the A& of last Session, tor ereablint , his Ma jesty to grant certain houses and lands ut_t..4 . 'reenwich, to the Naval - Asylum there. Henisolave notice, that be would, on the-same day, move fore. Copy of the Warrant, appointing Commissioners.to regulate the said iostitution. • • . °lithe Motion of Mr. -M. A. T:Vy not., the Order for ,::king into consideration the. Double Return from Poole, was postponed from the 2d of February till the.,l Ith of Fehruary •TKADE LICENCES. • . 1101fAriai declared, that he' did - not. mean to take up Mita olthe time of the Heim, as he Mils not aware that any opposition to his Motion wasin tended. lie did not mean , to anticipate the discus sions on the Orders of Council, but to tiring * forward information which, previous to the promulgation of those. Orders, he had thought it his duty to calf for; neither was it hi 3 intention, that his motion should refer to those Licences alluded to the other night, by a Right Hon. Gentleman, which head been granted by the Privy Council in tzonss - !iinetke of those Ordem In order to avoid all such inclusiOn, he meant to limit the period of his ,first Motion. The 'objeta he had in view was to ascertain .to what ex tent the pratiice had beet) carried, miqUestionahly within the law, and consonant to the legal exercise of the prerogative of the Crown, which .went not Only to impose ii restraint on foreign trade in . time of war, but also to exempt from that restraint on appli cation to the Privy Council, provided the Prify Council shoeld deem that anplication Warrantable. From the earliest periods of the Monarchy, this pre regative had been enjoyed. Of late, however, the pradice of granting exemptions had :considerably Increased more especially since our naval resources • bad fortunately enabled us to extend, to a greater degree than in any former age, the blockade of our Etierny's ports., It was origitrally his intention to call for such ail iltiorrnetiou us. would enable the House to judge how far this system of licensing -was more intimately connected with the system of blockade but on consideration, imperious public reasons had induced hint to forego requiring such information, lest it might injure the coMinercial Interests of the Country, by an unnecessary and improperdiselobure. He was desirous, therefore, of calliog,only for such Papers ai would put the House iii posiession of the Lumber at )..ices+ccs that had been granted during th e w ar., anoel the ,urns ecllected (rein the persons by Whom thiise Licences had been Obtained. Under this modern practice—he did not use the word'modet n . invidiously—brit under this prattice had been sub. stitutt'd tar "the ,ancient system of tereign trade, a " system which, however wise, was so'griaraim i mio . vation, anti touched so, nearly the commercial policy anti the 'constitutional law of the Cutiotry, that it was Indisptaisible to procure everyltiud ut information by W•hieh it could be 'elucidated.. The- prioelpies of commercial policy had bceit injtired'by transfer lug to the Executive Government die controul of the whole of the Foreign Trade of the Country; and by , submitting to the discretion of the Crown, what should,, or what should not be, the commercial in terrourse of Great Britain with any other State in kurope. But principles still more sacreti than these lead been endangered; the principles of Constitu notiel Law, by which it was provided that no money bbuuld be • exacted - from the. 'SdjeLt without the previous knowledge; 'consent, and controul of Par liament, And more especially that no money should be levied on Trade without that knowledge, cell sent, and cotoronl. He understood that : the yearly amount of fees received at the Privy Council Office for these Vcetices was very considerable. By What rule, or at what rate, they were imposed, .be knew not. He was not even aware of airy approximation to their amounts; but it was sutlicieitt for the House to know, that almost the whole, of the Foreign Trade was carried on by these Licences, and that in tbetu tees originated which were nuauthuriied by Varliament, anti .4/11101 amounted to.a impost and =aim on Fordo Commerce. He coneluded by moving, for in litunhle Address to linklaila3,esty, prAying tor an Account at the munber of Liceriu:s granted l?y .his Majesty in Caeocil to private Mei.- chants or when, permitting such persons to Trade 'in a manner not Otherwise legal, Irons-the cum meocemetit of lioctilities Its the present' time, dis • tiuguishing the number in each year, ke. W.f.:, utter complitneuttog .the Hon. Gen. tiecuan on the way in, which he ha* niiitrOt forward thi's m oth,n, 4SpLiA.: his M' lAiiisters to grant bun ail the, information. their power, went: .00 to observe, that the Hors, Gentlemen had stated tnis to .be a mettern poi:nee. It certainly was a modern practice, having cum roeueed in 1798. Had it WI been for this praeUce, we could not have carried on eta commerce. 1 Atter a abort conversation l between the - Cttette A. variety of circumstances now existed, which cUt.t.ott of the Eiceteeuea and Mr. Vitti'rsttgAb, bad never before opposed our commerce, 4:1L1 the laver refrained from making his Motion at tat whict4 if they had not been met by a departure time, but gave notice of it for Moi'day. • • from ancient forms, would have been seriously in. i VOTE-OF SEAMEZi. jerious to it. With regard to the legality of the I The House resolved itself into a Committee of Licences, most of them had boen issued under the Supply, Mr. WiiAKTON in "the Chair. eanaiou of an Aft of Parliament, passed at the corn- On the Motion ,ef Mr. It. WARD, tic following mencecuent of the present War . He objected, ; Resolutions were agreedeo, viz. • therefore, to the phrase " not otherwise legal," in 'That the number of 130,000 men should be etri tbe Hon. Gentleman's motion ; for it implied, that J played for the Sea Service of the present year,. in every case must be referred to his Majesty's Law eluding 14,000 Royal Marines. Officers .to ascertain its legality ; an occupation ' That a sumri not exceeding 3,10,5001. be granted ''which' ; must at least engage them for five or six to his Mejesty for the Wages of •the above men for years.. To 'giving the whole number of Licences thirteen months, at the rate of il. yea. per 'Man granted, without this distinaion, he had no objec. per month. lion. ' With regard to the tees, he was happy that . That a atom not exceeding 3,911,0001. be granted the subject had been brought before the House, as • ;to his Majesty for Vidtualling the ,above men for considerable ioisapprehension had gone abroad. both ' thirteen [neighs, et the rate of th i es. per man as to the amount and as to the application of those i per month. . .• 1 fees. It had been reported, that above one hunted 1 ' That a sum not exceeding 5,070,0001. be granted thousand pounds ,had been annually collated in this I 'to his Majesty for the Wear and Tear of the Navy, manner. It certainly was unpleasant to collect t for thirteen [Details, at the rate of 31. per twin per money in any way by which our Commerce was in month, the least degree oppressed, or by Which individuals That a sum not exceeding 5e1,501. be granted might sustain any inconvenience ; but in the pre- to his Majesty for defraying this Charges of Ord sent instance, the sum levied was not lar o ve; the ; ;lance for Sea Service for thirteen months, at the fait was, that the fee for Licensing a whole cargo rate of es. per man per month, MiS something less than 141., including 11. lOs. for 1 . In answer tea question:from Mr. TIERNf;Y, whe the Stamp. Of this sum 91. 35. 6d. went for the ther any diminution was made in the Naval Esti- Sign Manual. The Chief Clerk has 21. the Under mates, in consideration of the stores brought from Clerk 11. is, and the 'other Officers smaller sums. tkpecmbai;en, it was stated by Mr. Wnitri that there 1 A considerable proportion of the money thus raised, was no diminution. in the lisiituetes ;by Mr. Hes therefore, went to the payment of the.ecretary of , effiSee, that the eppliceiioti .of !file Money voted State,; and other Public Servants' ' thuedimreshieg 'would be a matter of subsequent consideration ; and the. public expenditere. Indeed the 4..ccfd fees in all by the cIiANMLOR of the'EXCAMWEIti that it was Ot ee.s . were the least to be cemplaitied of The certainly intended to reward teceCtitstera out of the, things tall did the most mischief were tie (lea- Stores, Of the value of them. . .teities, ited he would ceadily go any. length :u pre- The House having been resumed, the Rep ort W2S vent tkie tendering or receiving such Grain:o6,-, I ordered to be received on Monday. No sevetity of punishment that could be proposed, ?Ir. Husxlisost brought up the Report -of the would, in his opinion, be too great tor. Allis Factice, Committee on. the Reversionary Grants Bill. Ttis, even %%lens it to be :made sitnple felony. 'He ad- Report was agreed to, after a few words froni"Mr. vised some other alterations in the wording of the C. DUNDAS, 'who declared that his opinieneeras as motion. i:lr. HOPAR thanked the Tight Hon. Gentle- the senae of the House, he. would abstain treke t . .• man for the candour with which he had treated. peating his objections. The Bill was ordered:to be him ; but defended the motion as it stoed. He en- reed a third time on Monday,' to; which (tay the tered into. a ;long eeelanation, to shew that the House.adjourned. At to which the Right Hoo. Gentleman had al luded, did not extend to the Licences now under .consideration,. MAILS. Alm vID —A Dublin. Duc —3 Cottenburch, a Dublin, 2 Ylaucctura. The CHANC; LLOR of the EXclike2L 7 f.4 stated, the licenses were granted and saughi'to pre vent the detention of Vessels by his Majesty"scrniz ers, the present state of the world,' with respect to trade, being such-, that every ship engaged, in foreign commerce would be liable to interruption without such licences. A variety of different modes of li cences would`be brought forward I,)y the amend ment proposed by his Right Hun. Friend, which would .otherwise not be produced. Adverting to the licences granted in pursuance of the Orders of Coun cil, to which liceneesi hohad alluded the other nieht, he thought it right now to say, that in his opinion, the AO of the 43d of Geo. 111, had legalized the granting of such licenees, and, therefore, •he doubt ed whether a Bill of Indeinnity woOld be necessary for having granted them. After some further conversation, Mc, notrifat t adopted the suggestions of the Gentlemen on the other side, and the Account was Ordered, compre. hendiog all licences for commercial objedts.• • Oa the Motion of Mr. hotter t, an Account vas also ordered to be laid before the Home, of the whole yearly amount of the Fees and Gra,tuities paid to the Officers of the PriVy Council, by ,perso is , for peimission to4rade to certain . places, she v, lag their distribution, application, proportion, rate, See, from the eotutnencetitont of hostilities to the present time. T E SU N. SOGIAC ItUti FAL.UI4 AUViItAT ? LONI4O,IV, BATVSDAY, JANUARY 30, ylOll. We flattered ourselves that the answer whi,ch4b gave some days ago to the charges brought agaiOat the board of Atimiraity,respe6ing the vianaliing of Sir RICHARD STRActiAres'Squactrou, would have put that subjes to rest, hut it is this rooming re newed in a Morning caper in a new and Ingenious form, After mentioning that five Sail of the. Line were seen off Cork, on the 213,4, we allude proceeds the the par rail, _ to " 'We sboultleuppose this to have been t.tller (' Sic „tam; DubtwoaTti's Ur Sir it. StrfActio's te Squadron; • though we are at a loss to conceAr , " why they thunld have been so long M arriving_ off, " Cork from* their respective stations. The lat , .er DANISH EXPEDI'IIow. " , Oiled in pursuit of the Enemy on the 1 7th, and . .' - 111 r. U. ' PONSONBY rose; among other put. " anct the foriner on the evening. of the ,111th ; tint' • poses, to give notiee,of . bis intention of postponing ". though the .winds bet wet) those days and the 23d from Monday to Wednesday, his Motion for certain .f 4 have nut bectl quite favourable, , they were not so Paprfei relative to . the Expoo,ti,ti ag,insi.c„p.vona., A t :advetS. as.t k prevent our Squadrons . from inakine• to gen. . , Havitig•submitted to his Majesty's Miaisters, . t ' ' Copies of the Resolutions winch it was his intention' ". much nin=e way than they seem to have rand . e:- ' to propose, he thought. it would save , ate, 'were he much unite;- - , i. Surely it cannot be owing to tbe.aceolints we: the ,e -' cessary mixture of eiternere in A k ~ have heard of their bcing in want epropi:ibra or new to move for such'Papers as his Majesty's Mini- ,;*.• • . sters were disposed to grant. These Papers Mi g h t “. - • touter ' ! be on the table at the Houtte in , su ffi cient tim e to . .N 9, certainlyt it could not; the want of pro assist h tno approaLhittg . discessioti. '!'rte . first Aloe vivons .and water might (if the fact bad been so) • flan was for ",'Ctipiei of all- Prue4tinitielis that had have prevented our Stinadron,from pursuing, but it been issued .by the Commanders of his'Majesty's • -'' • • ' '' ' Naval and Military Foreeii seilile Were - Cope /l i l a- would by .no memo have• impeded them .in their get) ;as also Copies- t s r f. ; ;;,iraets of the Oin.,:,:neuica- voyage from -.Rochefort to cork. We recommend tietur that they had held with the Danish COveru l ,totu • i. w r, • t ppositiott Writers to drop the subject of ' the. Meet' toaching the serietider of the D:ibisti Ee e t by • ' Capitulatioul.: The seeoud Motion oils tor ~ c o - provisictijnil Sir 4. STR4C.RAN'S Squadron altoge pie,; of the Articles eitheCapitulation concluded bet . titer. The charge which they.mnde, has been coat tv..cen the Commanders of his Majesty's Naval 04 t uletely refuted, and they will etg no credit by m ain 'Mi;itary Forces, or either of them, and the Qffic..ers 't % - . .entinn„nning his Danigt, Majesty's le nre .„' ni. the f .adverting to-it,; even though, they confine themselves island of Zealand," Here, he was sorry to-say, was within the moder k t limits of doubts and iesinuntiens , an end of his Catalogue of Motions ter that day.— ' The renaainingp.'vrt of the paragraph - d e se rves cl), All the other information for which he sou 6 .lit 1)0 •• , true or beend'enicd hint by his Majesty's Mintsters. (A. most serious reprehension, whether it b e cry of No !no I) pe begged . pardon of the House, false ;—,if*true,'because it could only. tend to vc n o ey there was "another Paper, for the prodn4ion of information to the Enemy ola vulnerable poi nt ;: if winch they had consented. It was 4 ` the Suhstanco • • • - , • .. • . of such InforMatien ashact bc , en:reeeived from. his false, as we know it is, because it • 'cout t ii ns a gross Majesty's Naval OffiCers, as well as from the 0 . 61-. i and unfounded charge upon His , Majest'Y's.Gove rn ._ . cers ot his Majesty's Dock.yards, with reaped to the Ment. It is as follows :- . 7 . •• state'ut the Danish Shipping at the time of theit•Eur- . Cork:may . render, and subsequent to their arrival in British ‘.‘ The Fleet A, hich has appeared before Ports."' . . , •,, • .i" be that which recently sailed from Roebefort.-. ' The Motions forthese'different Papers were then • ,i• Should that be the case, there is reason' fur serious k severally pit and agreed to. In .sets voeS to a Ties- , a/arin, 'as outv'tg4nt Adttitittlty 'ha ve a ff or d e d so floe trom Mt'. PoNSOIOIY, MT. Secretary CANtiING • " Ilia, tile. on Monday he wautti lay before the House '," inanyfacifitiesfor their SUCCESS. Ire are assured ' i et)PY "t tht 'lPPVcat . tee matte 6 the Part'et the . " that there is atsresent but a 'mere Block•thip and nfi t i s i l uowinrow, for the mediation at. the ELll,i; " ii .. ! .',,•; - , . . , van,. of Pktet3ia, in the. ditrerenceS betweenklreat - Britain mid I..)enruark, with Hier Answer to that ap-.a-, rigat,o i n tue h arbour o f Cor k, ana ti n e Peutter:el " in the worst slate. Such neglea;Combined with plieation ' .• ' , • 'H' ' . " the conciliatory language of Mr. PERCEVAL to. Mr. WilIT/IRE4D, alluding to What had passed " ' • - -e of . Ireland, is well calculated on a late evening, when a Noble Lord had declared ' wards the people that his (Mr. W.'s) information w ith respett' to the : " to sef:Ure that Country to England." l oss oid capture' cif transports, their sent of sailiog : . Such language requires ile comment; but if there instrutitiow, &e. I,as - false, would, if the Gentl- be any persons who teel serious dem, we can assure me n oppusite had no (o)jettion i move for an AccoUnt . she wing the tnlll)ei alld COntilv . 6l Traitsports ' c o l« them it is witho4t the slightest foundation, and ever) pioye(i in ti=e 1:),n);:di EN.pediv?l'l That had uses tags w r i ter o f m e p tira ,f ra ph in question, and : we- •J-• eitiv,:r tAptur.!,l ear lust, vin• copies of-their Sailing 1 ' - be rejoiced tO hear, that h e lustruaioo, of the places appointed foi thor , 1 •11.- "..if;1115 daunt,, . • ' . -. dezvous, src. &c. - . , most egregiously imposed upon in the account which beings recuivo! of the KA;lacy and N3v4 rkfr:Del Of Cork. statement; however, upon which the wholo of the ingenious and patriotic observations which tva have quoted above are founded, turns out to he Wholly destitute of foundation, No Squadron o! Mart - of War; - either British or—French t was lien off pork Harbour, nor hag any account whatever been - received of the Ships that escaped from Roche fort, or of the Squadrons of Sir J. DUCKWORTH 5 Sir R. STRACHAN, except that which we have id• ready laid before our Readers. Therican,"howerar , be no doubt that the two latter are ui pursuit of the former, and there is the strongest reason to hope will fall in with them But even if .they should escape, there it no part of the world to ! •which. they can dire& their course in which they will not find a force able to cope with them. If ',they should go to the Brazils, they will find there 1 .1 1. Sail of the Line ready to meet them ; if to India, they find sir. Sail of, the -Line, and in the West Indies an Aqua), force. As to the Mediterranean, there is no chance.of their skewing themselves there. If they should go to the Floridas thecoes! will afford them no shelter; and if they should take refuge In the Chesapeake, they may be easily at' tacked there,--There is therefore every reason to hope that a good account will ere long be given of the Rachel art Squadron. 41ficlal Dispatches-from Botany Bay, of the 18 111 - .Mar;4l mention a 'conspiracy, to Which we allude , ed yesterday * of the Irish ,Convicts. They h ad planning their schemes for - several montbgi but were etleanally defeated. Dw Yea was" the 'leader of the gang. Their design was- to recto,the arms of' the loyal inhabitants, and with a view to coniplete the scheme, all the Irish sein . 3oii had been pledged, at a certain period, to inascti all their Employers, particularly all the chief peoPi° of the Settlement. Dwy.e4.lind been put on board tho Porpoise, P re 7 4 paratory to b"ks trial ; and BYANE, BP. V 1 “ 1 1 S P " other ringleaders vere alio in custody, 4nd liuely to ;eeeive the puniihinent they doserve. A Letter from Carlshamn., dated the Ith Jpnuall• so I received intelligence from Stralsund, tbot the French are tittinl7 catt Privateers in that Harbou4 which are to cruizo against England, swedan, I wrote immediately to a high cinarter to pro 4 pare a defence in our Harbour, the present wint e4 !specially, the season being so mild it is, to be 1 0 ' 61 th e r P.,o v my tna'y attempt try .burn nU Zneilistx sel lying in our Harbour. It had such an efftet, that orders wore laint" distely issued to the Csover.nors. in. the Fortiticat icia to take seriOua measures against. such art attenlPCk have this day extmtited flora a Veeci 4 PaP el : of the Wth, a Proclamation issued by the 4tt>r Zravat?k, in which she infoims her SObjeas, th o in consequence of n Treaty between ihroNApART* and the 4tNO of SrAis, 14 which her King4 o4l is ceaed:to the: former, she considers.ber Goveiv t.Pe.pt at an eud,. tt.nd absolves the People O f Etrarls from their oaths of allegiance: Ita'pßenrs, howe ver * that she .is try h.ave same other States. given tohe'4 Such is the facilily with which BVII44OARTS 4 poses of Kingdoms, 4n4fmch the blind and disg ll; ful submission of the Pvinco and people of,' Con neat to the will of as imperious UsurPer• Ter Wide which our lieaders w;11 find in nig STyrs of this day, taken from an American p a per, re' lative to the . present state of Btietzos Ayres, i'l °f .very interesting . and important nature, The fefilsa to admit Neutral V esse l s , even un d er th e sautlieo °( a` Royal . Licence, seems strongly to indicate a dispe' sition, on the part of the People , of that place, tv throw off the yoke of -Spain; -though they n'lst b° apprehen:iive of availing themselves of the assistaece - of Great Britain -in such an at tempt,:lest they eio ula ()lily change their Masters, rather than obtain t l4 d . indstpendenc'e to which, they must naturally fall° It iccertain the people of Buenos Ayres could nee make an effort .for their independence at a tner . Seasonable moment than at present, since it is not the interest of. Great Britain to obstru& their en deavonrsi and they have li t tle to dread from -the attempts °f Spain to keep them in subjettion,while this Count/ possesses'suCii a crititnand of . the Mean. - , Tat high - winds , and tides which have Well 08 so inueli klaiiiage on cut COaits, have been e4Oll/ clestrualve on those of Holland, as appea" by tlll tll • knowing article from the Fairciordiniry fl us '" Gazettf, of i"7th Jalluary : - 1 ft d Ilusatxo. JAN. begiOning of 10 ' W : proved extremely- unfortunate to the inhabitant° is Leyden, in consequence of WSW w ith 6° l l , 4.powdet being blown up iu the Canal ; indt hecu 1 t g mencement of the present was no less diqastroui our City, on account of'an immense &oil , hic , . exceeded by two f eet that Which happene al the year 082. Between the 14 th and -5 00 Ifts l a lltft about one o'clock in the Monlitio 1 t 4 -'