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INILiERIAL PARLIAMENT. lIQUSE. - QF PEERS, TUESDAY, MARCH 6. Counsel were foillier heard in the Atireal respetl ij.g a ---Scotch Eleaion, Robinson v. Gordon. . - Aftei a few obsavations.frorin .the . LORD CHAN-. cELLoR, the ultimate decision of the cause was`de , .fcrrsd till Friday nett. DISTILLERfES. L9V.r BATHURST gave - *notice, that cm Thursday next, a• we understood - him, he -- should move that the Order b:=3 discharged forbearing on - the reading df the bistillery Bill. Several Itivate Bills were brought up from the Comnions and read a_fiist time. Th 6 Bills on the table (all private Bills) were for 7 verded iii their.. respective stages. • . Lord DARNLE,'/' expressed something-like a corti-, plaint than business was not entered-upon at an ear , tier' hour, as Much more business might in that be daily gone through. - !The Lora CHANCELLOR observed, that this was a Nint upon which an understanding had several —tidies , been entered into; and it was generally agreed that the House should- proceed Jo- public bttsiness t regulariy at five o'clock. The agre.met‘r, however, had riot adhored to. 'Perhaps 'he _Might not be quite regular himself, Unless he was under an obligation of being so. „ ; Lad 1.1%ta - ,BEY again rose, and adverted to a report which he said was in very geneta.l circulation. cording to this report, it was the intention; of ters to send out oitthe Kingdonion foi - c ura service the-u bole of - the regular armed force o( the country. This.de i sign, if really such couLt exit, he could no; but consider ;is v'ery.alarmiug, au., if no other Noble 'Lord took up the subject,. be shotild think it his duty to call the .attention'of theii• Lord, ships-to it-on Thursday next.—Adjourried till Thurs day. I HOUSE . 0F CONLTIONS TUESpAY; MARCH' • • Mr. BYNG gave notice, that - he Wo.uld - to T tnorrow submit to the House a motion relative to the notices that in future' it should be- nec&sary to give for bills fut the maintenance of the poor. • Mr. Mteraasu brwight in the Gas Light Read a first, awl ordered to be read a second tithe, Sir J. SINCLAIR brought in a' Bill for Amending the Fiigh%vays.—Ainong the proirisions of ;he Bill, - is ,one, by which no boy of a less.age than 14 yeats is to be purmitted to drive a wagon, or of less-than - 1 d years to-drive a cart. The Bill was.relet a first time, and ordered to be read "a second time, and to be:printed. r , Mr. *.'POLA brought up the report of the Corn inittee onthe Petition fro:U . o:le Foundling Hospital , dbublin ; and obtained leave to.bring in 'a Bill for the. better regtilation of the said Hospital. Lvs - tr;NGTON brellgtlt up the Report of tlio CoMmittee on the Distillery .Aels and,a-Bill was . ordered accordingly. -•- Or. the motion of Mr.- Jlosa, it was ordered that the Hquse should to-morrow resolve itself into a o.irrAnittee ott.the Sh e ar l3ourny On the motion of 4 ,1 r. CALCNAFT, an account was ordered to be laid beforelhe , Hotis . e, of thc nornberpf Officers wanting- to complete the seven regiments of Dragoon Goards,,?nsl ,the twenty -five regiments . of Dragoung, on the, 25th of February, di,;tingoishieg the rank "and number of Qtficers in each regiment. Also an account of the ninisber of ordnatke and gunner-dFiters,'&7l.7.. _ On the motion c' Mr. POLE, a number, of Returns and Reports, re.l3*,to - .Ardglis,, Harbour, ‘i - ere or dzr-ed to be hid iletcire- t:)e House. On the motion. of Mr." Slow.; the House went into the further .con,iderafion of the Report of 'the Coinrnittee of Supiny. ' ResolutiOns were -all agreed to. CITY OF. LONDON. • . Lord Adver.ti . ,4lg to the notice. whichlie had given, olipoving for ten" Address to his _Ma jesty, praying that he would be graciously pleased to sta'e to the House by whom' he had been advised to return the answer, which he had ;teen to the thesi of the City of.Lendon, obs j erved, that the de bate of last night - prc:occtipied so -much of the dis, cossion which such a . motion would occasion,; and that:the termination of that debate• W 35 of so satis fattury a nature, that he would withdraw his notice. A copy was ordered; to be laid before the House of a letter from' the Sorgeon-General of the Army _to- the Secretary at War,. dated the 4:1101 August-, 1809, relative to the conduct of the Inspeelor- General, &c. _ . MUTINY BILL The House then resolved itself into a Committee 'on the Mutiny Bill, in. which a des.Jltory discussion took place on several of the clauses which related to 4e enlistment of iecrnits. 041 the ITlOuse being resumed, the Report was ordered lobe rec.civedto-rr,ortn,w. n:O the motion of . : Sir J. NEWPORT, an account orJered to he laid 'before the House of the state Of the iiirritclis in irelJud;-..the number of soldiers, it:tether cavAry or infintry, itlat they were,capahl,e oficUon:tining, &c. • .:tRu.vER.F,P)NARY NY, B,t kEs rost.:fr the purposerawo.posing an Address, to' his .I\laj,sly on Ole subject of Itever- Siunary. Grants. He reminded the House, -rho in 1847, Address of the nature of 'that he now wished carried to•thefoot of .the Throoc, - _ had been witi-ons one dis,yrD:iopi voice, under circum. • stances similar-to-the present.—[Uere the Addr es s . irOted Actrost- t.O, Isfr, - ,` WaS 7Cad by the Clerk 'He did out isool.v. hat grr.;unis ;he Bill, lately • ,passed in that House ha,i t. , terl thrown out in the - House of Loris. He hat thought it rnigio perhaps ha - ve b en, tli at th - ;4 Ji,adc a ckitiicuity of rendering a Susen,lisin A6l, Hr ilia not know that grOtii):l 'on which it .was thrown out, nor did he si-_eithit t o 1e was any reason fur rej , ..6ting it on tLat aCci;wit,,b - 7,S heiknew-there I.s,'i!re those who . : %vere inure par;kll.-to raising difficUNies than reaoly ing theru. He thuNld the Bill-proper, in point Of;I: Arso. mode adopte'd was the regu'ar mcide. When a principle api;ewed to resist prohibiting Re-.. ^wersionary - G;ants, and that House found itstlf so °probed, they had a tight to-.pricred s for.. wet bq could cunstitu:;onaily, by, doipg the'y cu;.l i;i 1847,-. when illy) , carried up an Address ‘. to his Majety, praying that he would be.A.ased to. Susperul the Exercise of shat part of his, prerogative till'another ,Session of Parliament, when they, might take measures for c-miieting what it) the first stance they had failed of amoi L lphshing; con cluded by moving, that ire Address - of 1.807, pray ing:that his Majesty would not grant ihe reversion of any place or otce in any part of the kingdoM till the following Session of Parliament, should be again presented 16 his Mpjkgry. Mr.. rt.YDER thought the circumstances under .which the Address was voted in 1807 verydifferent to the - present. That mode of proceeding - was adopted, tecause it ,was . the • only prat-Ilea) mode They bad at thartime of preventing the granting* places •In reversion. Now, ihough a Bill for abo lishing suchAr b ratits altogether had been lately thrown out bythe t.oids, they did not know that a Bill for suspending reversions for a limited time would meet with a similar fate. Might not therefore the intro duction of a Bill to that purpose answer the lion. Gentlemen's purpose as erfe6tually as the Address ? That house ought to be careful not to legislate for the 'Country at large, -unless obliged to do so Rom ,necessity. He wished them to revert to the hisory of the Calamities brought on the country by the long Parliament, to see the evils that might proceed from their imprudently pursuing such a line of condUCl. He had every reason to believe the Hon. Gentle man's.-,objvd. would be .attained_ by a 'Jilt. He did not wish to throw that burden on him (Mr. Bankes) and he would not object to taking it on himself.. H 9 hoped the Hon. Gentleman seeing no necessity ex istpd:ror voting such an AddreSs„• would withdraw his motion, that the experiment of a Bill Might be . • • • Lord A. Hit:Ali...rot; Was of opinion that if they meant to carry into effect the measure they had in _new, they would accede to the motion. He ap proved of the lion. Gentleman's proposition), as he rhought it tended to a refofm. - - Air. 11. DUNDAS understood the question., to be whether the measure shOuld he accomplished by the mode proposed by the Hon. Gentleman, or by a If they had no reason to believe that such a Bill would not pass, he thought that the more •con stitu6oaal mode of proceeding. It was an abuse of access to the Throne to make ise of that • privi lege, when every purpose coutd be attained' by, a Bill. • _ . Mr,. S. BoutlE.had always 'been a friend to. the measure ; but he was of opinion that it would he better to endelvour to gain their objea by a Bill than.by an Address. As a friend to the measure ire could . wish the Hon. Gentletuan would adopt that taiode, ns - beiDg the more constitutional., • • Mr. LANa never approved of the substitution tf '.suspehding for prohibitory Bills. It had . been said there was no doubt but a Bill for suspendipg such grants would pass; that he admitted, becaUse it was khown in the other 'House that acceding to such a measure was the ..most effectual .way of oppo4rg the nro,hibition of reversiouaty grants altogether. Mr D. GIDDY thought the Address would not be unconstitutional, and he knew Ufa% some Gentle men were of opininn tht .cupt, a proceeding - would be advisable previously to the bringing. in °fa Bill. ,Fie firmly believed his Majesty would give his con sent to the bringing in off: a Bill to abolish rever sionaty grants. He should vote for the motion. . Sir J. NEI,'PPItT- cautioned the House aoinst agaili entertaining n Bill merely . tZa the suspension, of relersiona:y grains. The sup'port of those who were for . t.r , pensicin only, he shouirt considet as very suspicious. . . Mr. 13A - crturrtsT thanght the Addre.s ,objetliOns started against the Biil. All the circti.tri s;ance, considered, he could riot give-the iitori Ii Ids s.upport ; he wished it to 1 - ).; wAndrawn for the in t roclui;. 3 , 4 ; 4 Bill. • ; Mr. P. Moot would rather con'Settrto vote Ad dress upen Address, than risk defeat by. placing the' measure at the mercy of those..wh9 were iutere:4td in oppOshig it; he shonld'therefore give . his vote tbr 'the Address.. • Mr. I,l 7 lycr.ttß4AD understood the objeCtion of the Lords to be of a technical nature. If that - Were all, he - thought the Bill might be agaio brought in to. try their sentiments.. If that could be done it might be well for the Hon, Gentleman to 'mak, the experi, ment, but if it •could not; by would prefer the Ad drel9 another suspension Bill. • • Mr. BANKES, though he thought there was little prospea of success, had no objection to make. the proposed experiment. Susponsion.Bills, he thought, Were jnjuiinus to the cause : with an Understanding - that he might again bring.in the Bill, he Would (if the House would permit nim) withdraw his motion for the Address. , • . The CHANCET e LOK of the Excncoosa thought it would be better to bring in a Bill for suspending the granting of reversions for the time mentioned the Addecss, as the Lords, tholfgh prtehatly,averse to aholishiug,them altogether, might be expe&ed to pass a .suspension Bill. If the original Bill •Were again brought'in, he should oppose or move an amendment to make it for a liniiterLperiod. He was averse to attempt* to attain by Address what they' might gain by a Bill. ;nd • hoped' the House would paid against stwii a principle. ..If the Hon. Gen tleman wished to withdra'w his Motion for the Ad , ' dress, that was sufficient for the present.' The SPEAKER observed, the speeches made in ,that House were not to, be quest;loned any where. Those made in, the House of Lo—,ls, were not to. be questionedin the Hou,e of Commons. ll,•ingso; they would offend against their own order. They must, not therefore discuss the particular sentimerus ,of the Speakers in th'e'House of borols'on the Sub vjeo. The'Bill was not thrown out on the scord of irregularity. It mighi have beep t!s'ade more corn. ,plete,.but it 'wits not unparliametnary. Lord POR - C ULSTER wished to lc,ow if the Lords' couldiagaiurecs-ive a fill which ti ey harthown out ? Could they (the House ot (3;arirnotis).,,liivi lug negatived a, Bi,kl from the other House, again The SPEAKtIi sa;d, Bill sent from one House • to the other must be, received. They would after wards detertnine '4(4 it should be disposed of. The motion wqs; : then•wi.lidrawnl: After a short Onversation between Mr. BANKES and the CHANCELLOR Of . the - ENCtifiQUEII, BANKES gave notice,. that on Tuesday•next he would moVe for leave - to bring in the Bill. The Order of the .aty for the. House resolving, it, self into. the Committee on ,the Expedition to the, Sche!dt was then read; and 'die douse went into' the Cor,nmittee. _ • , We have this day I . iubrnitted to oar Readers sa great mass of intelligence, brought by the Cadiz and Lisbon Mails . 'which :trrived yesterday. The ac counts will be found in • many instances confilsed and ontradietory, but -in Ole present situation. of Spain The great confusion must ilatnrally be expeaed. French have made some slight attacks on the en.. trance of the Isle of Let )n, in order to facilitate, their approaches. On the 11 th they made one, in - which they were repulsed with considerable loss. The French have got possess ion of St. Marys,• and are busily employed in ereaing - their batteries; their works are, however, very materially impeded by our • boats, and the line.of 4attle ships - will very shortly be brought . to bear upon them. NEYa nd-jtIN . OI: continue to threaten V'orttagal with a considerable force, hut we, do not th'ink they will make apy.se, rious attempt, at le. , ,st fcir the presetit ; tht.ir *object seems rather to be to kerri r Lord WELLINGT Q N from taking any steps for the relief of tYhe Spaniards. . Government have, vt-e understand, received dis= patches from Colonel - Romp; Who has been Itach• ed to,th9 Spanish Army 4 , lthe Centre for some time.. His di: pat Ches contain a detailed account of the fore ; ing'of all the positions of the Spaniards in the passos of the Sierra -Morena: H states the French force em ployed upon this service I o amount to 60,000 mar, 51im0......... Contradiaory/reports Fare still in circulation ye speaing the occupation v f Ceuta by our troops.--: We regret that it is not ip our power to remove the doubts that exist upon that ',ubi,eff, as Government Wave not received any intelligence resp4ing Ceuta. I A private letter from Gibraltar states, that a cot)- ; ziderable quantity Oaring_ sk7e- harl been. found con.- ; cealed in the holtse 'of a Spaniard. As there was 4 reason to believe that they. were concealed for the • 1_ most treacherous. purpose, ail the Spauidrds were in the garrison had been sent to Algesiras. . It is 19 us a suhject of sincere- pleasure-that the' House of Cpmrnons sdinitea on Monday-the gated censure prOpPsed by Mr. c.,';.N&INO, reapedittg Lord cmia,:rnaal . .'s conduct, instead of the strong re:, solutiera which Mr. WIIITnREAD wished to have: adopted ; for though it is iinpossible to deteral his • Lordship's cnndba in . 1 he .transadion -in rinestiro, yet there certainly is -no ground to impute to him any of thoseimproper motives of whichhe the first, instance, so .warrnbr. accused. But ivitzt ever may be the feelings of the Pubic upon this question, the QppPsition wiiters, Spe.aking we sup.. pose, 'the sentiments 'of the Party, tell us, very can , : didly, why, they rejoice in this decision, and what results they expel "fi' - oM it. Their satisfat9i6 n d oes , not arise from Any benefit which they think the Constitution may have 'gained' from the vote •0' f Monday, but froM the_hope it affords the:A:that it will accelerate the resignation of Minister. This, is the great leading . objed to which all their views, are direded, and which animates all their patriotic • exertions. It is impossible no,t i to be pleased with their candour, rtiore especially'as : tie are convinced that the openness 'with which the Party hate avow ! ed,their hopes, is likely to operate most - effedually in preventing their_ accomplishment,- It is curious to' observe with what facility the. party 'change their . • language y elraing Parliament, according as they } happen to be in a majority or a minority indeed we,. Imust do them the justice to acknowledge that they have a set of arinments ready .prepared for every event that may occur. When they are in amino rity, then they are defeated by Ministerial influene,e.; . when they are in amajority, of of course, then Par ha:nem speaks the sense the people.-Daring the • long period of M. Pyres AdMinist.rtion, whew his. AnajOrities were so large, we heard daily. from the Opposition, : ehargls of corruption, venality, Eii% .and- they clarnpur,:d, ar,aiast a Parliament that uniformly supported a Minister, as ,they -fight or wrong. - In toe present Session it has hap pened, three or fotir times, that the Altnistershiye been in a minority, and the Opposion, with great' podeaty, immediately tell - them that they ought to resign. So that by. this.ingeniOu.s species of reason-. s ing, they ace r doubly armed." If Ministers,have constantly large majorities, they are then guilty of_ corruption, and of course they ought to be turned out i on he other hand, they should happen, upon a few cccasions„ to divide in a minority; iben‘ the ihfcrence is, tbtt Minigters haye lost the. confidence of Parliament, .alld thon-fore odk - ht to rdsign. Nov, as it mist hippeu inevitably that I‘liniSters must always bt. , one - c , r other of, these predicaments,- it follows mcrst logi . that no Ministers can be justified in retaining, their p)aces--W hen the present. Oppusition are de , - - sirous of removi.ncr them. This reesohing is inge nious,. bUt We do not think it will convince either the Nrliament or the Country. We 4re,told evel day that Ministers have lost roc confidence ,of Parliament ; why then will not the 'Opposition accept , the challenge of the CHAWCE,L tha of the-, EXCFIE4UER, ad d meet that (Ines- , tion ? Why will . thq not adept a mode of proceeding whicll would remove all dcubt up on that subject—why will they not move for ,• anj Address to his Majesty to remove his . •pre. 'sent Ministers?—The' Opposition know very well that if they were to bring forward such a' mbasure, they would be' defeated; and therefore wisely re frain from making the .ex.perimcnt. , ~ We understand that o,ll' nrCHAIID . STRACHAN,yeS-. terday..leliverpd his Narrative to the Admiralty, and that it' will_this..day be'sent to-his M4,IESTY alid thu Ministers. . . Yesterday soon after twelve Ocloek, their MA- J ES - I'lllS, Princus AUGUSTA, LEAZAUETH, and-SoPlitA, arrived .at the (..,Ideeo's PahNe. from Windsor. la the course of 'the morn i ng the ".RqyarDukes . visited their. MAJ The Princess - MAny remains at Windsor with Princess AMELIA. The Duchess of BRUN'SWIC;i, `and the Dukes of ,P.JI‘.I.I3ERLAND aiId,SUSSE.X, dineu with their MAJES-. In the evening their MAJESTIES had a selea party , to tee, and car ds, IFS MAJESTY will hold a Oourt this day i at-thce Queeil's Polace.---71'o-rno.i - row her MAJESTY will will hold a I.srawin,,,r-liooni. A great portion . of the content's, of our privatei '66tutinuticatioN is Auperseded by the following 9154, ,cial document, .stiDscribed 'by the Secretary 'to the „Tuna, iVlJ)atl`e details'af the military events og- . cuiling on the 17th, 18th, and 1 gt . h of last-month. GAZETTE EXTRAORDINARY. FEB. 19. _ . " E 4 B, 17.—Froni iliguerita and Terrcn have' .arrived twn'yessels, 'one felucca, and six fishing •Qmacks, which have-brought hither-Brigadier-Gene ral and -Chief of DiviS,ion, D. Francisco-Copons y Navia, la. Olikers of di,lferon't&rps, with troops of the reginient of La Reyna; Murcia, the Canarios, 'and Marina, and solfie other, with an Adlutent and sovon Surgpns' Mates. - • . To-day he Portuguese regiment ocinfantry, No. O, calico tamp:, zw.tvir ' which came .yester day in six transports ( - roil), Lisbon, dkera.barked. " At break of day we were informed, that to the north 'of. ll* Trocadei4.), an t i bet,v:ven the War'e-, 11,buses, the enemy had form.e4 a parapet of sane} casks at the extreality 'of which, at intervals, seiti gels were tation,cd.. In, the course of the day a larger - number of Frenah began accutionlate, un. der the porches of the said Waietionses, and irregular parties of cavalry and. intanq'y we observed passing .• frornPuerto Real to Trocadexo.. The firing from the' ship 'St. ',Tristo and batteries was p!)ipt - 4d to that di- , redid j.; • , '". - At :noon, 38 covered waggons, apparently, , 1014.11 - swith 'arnmunition and artillery, and escorted by some horse', proccedc4 from the port to Puerto, • " By information :obtained this day, it is disco-.. vered: that the, force of the enemy employed, to gar r4on 'St. Maria consists of 3.00 . men ; that ia 'aka • field of Guia there are two is-pounders, and that near the .bridge of Sr.. pedro there are, two b 6 ,.. pousiderS and one 24-pounder. The bridge to, wards Puerto Real has in, waiting before it, until repaired, .two',stnall mortars, t*Wo . Obusses, five flying pieces, and about Gun waggons of various mensions. . , • WEB. 18.- 7 " 00 the night of the .16.01., and dur ing the whole of. the 17th, - an advanced battitY to' 'the right-of the post called the Salero, a battery was ere&ed- under the protection oflaunches, which att noys the enelny very much, and Jas macle withdraw his artillery. We are assiited in this.. ob-' jeEt , by the launches,_ by the ord batteries, and . byj the adVanced parapet on the Carmin6 Real. These have 'also killed many men and horses, as . waF as certained by the 1-iraht who con:eved the -answer given by his Excel'elk) , the Duke of Albuquerve: . ; " Accordtng to the lalcst accurate accounts; there are in Puerto Real 3000 French alrnost all of" them infantry, with six pieces•of brass cannon, 24-: pounders, They marched in on . the evening of . . the !WI); hont at tiliery, and by the road of the " At the mill of Monte Corto there•are 20 of the, Frenek guards; a thousand Pates froM 300; and in the town only obour 70,.. They have - . pillaged Chiclana; and they have conveyed away` foutwaggens to XeieS. where their forces' are Minishing, and from whence, according to repolf they are, about to retite. ht is . said, thatirom lama to SantiVerra, there are only 70 or 80, infantry ,Ana, the Miil, and the house. of the . Cots, and the Tower. We hear that they have cut , down much wood in the. toles's, and that the nurn 7 ber of the enemy lessens daily, - ; and some assert that tlie French designed to concentrate themselves hi . . Xerez. • . , (Signed).. " MANUE . I, MA.HIAAKC'E Sec." ca.l4, liebtl9, ". P. S. 4 . t one o'clock to-day, the discharges of o,e.artillery , of the, enemy were made ne:tr the Tro- . ,crldero, - from the parapet of Saint Cuses, befote mentioned. The cannon they employed - was ap parently a six-.poundor, and an obuss, which . was an eight-pounder, some grenades; some of which struck the, stern of • the ship St. Just:L . From this ship,, and from the, cannon of our adjacent battery, the proper return was made - ,for this compliMenr, and at three o'clock the firing of the enemy was dis contidued. It it supposed_ that the'pioces on his battery have been dismounted: . " The English,. who were et - Rived in a have had two killed and twO wounded."; ' • • • Lora CASTLEMEAM'a wished, before the witnesses were called, to exp!a in a Nil a his evidence . which bad ..I . )een cuisreprented through an error in the • , f printm. ' :Stranger w - ere th 6n orderc:t to withdraw, and the Gallery was cleat ed. MAILS..._ 4RR En . —i Dublin, I Watc-r=.orcl : —DoE--4 Guttenburgh. z Waterford. Ti 3 1: S UN. SOLEM QUIS 13: - CkRE FALSUM AUDEAT ? L Ar N. WEDNESDAY, MARCH 7, 1810..