The Sun. — London, England, 1818-04-30 00:00:00

P IA E NT. HOUSE OF LORDS, WF.DNpsnAy, APRIL 29. WIDOWS' ENSTONS', The NlarquiS O LANsnoWNE, in rising to move that the T'ap'ers relating to the Pensions- of Widows of OlE'cers should he printed, stated, that 'it kv.is not his ioterition to take anylart her steps on thefiithjec consequetwee of what bad taken • t,„ • phtre ont of •the HOuse : he had. learned with great satisfaction that the intention of abridging those Pensions had been 'abandoned, awl that it was - inset - 0111 to• 'continue the allowances' tree from all deductions - , which, - if they had been made, 'Would have had the appearance of an un worthy niggardliness, and have been quite contrary to their Lordships' usual strain of feeling. He hoped that the PensiOns to the Widows of Naval Officers would be put on the same footing as those ,of the Widows of Officers of the Army; awl wished to know whether-thttWidoWsof Naval 01qcers on the Compassionate_ List were still obliged, on receiving their pensions,' to'make an affidavit that they continued single, which was d great hardship, and ought to be removed ? He mentioned this, because be thought it might have escaped their Lordships' notice ; Ihnugh, if the'practice were to be altered, he should rather the amendment came from the side of Govern ment than any other quarter. The ,Earl LivatiPoot. replied, that the sub ject-would be considered with a view to further the wish expressed by the Nohlt Marquis Whatever his individual opinion might be as to granting pensions where the widow possessed other property, .there could be no possible prin ciple'under which the Navy was to be on a dif ferent footing from the Army. The purchase of CoMmissions in the Army ought not to make any ti-;fference ; for that was not a tax hut a boon, and was no argunlnt whatever for establishing a dif ference between the pensions. Tit* Earl of Rosstx:g expressed his desire that the regulations of the two services in this tespect should he alike, especially as the Officers of the Navy made contributions out of their pay. Lord MRLVILLE stated, that_ the contribution out of the pay of the Navy did not bear any pro, portion to the value of the Widows' Pensions--; the contribution was about 34. per amium, for what at the insurance offices - would cost 40/. How everithis did not aift•et the merits of the ease, and' (lie Pensions in the. Navy ought certainly to 'he on the same footing as those of•the Army,— 'Such was already the case with the Marines. The . Ilarqiiis- LAVtDoWNE stated, that in the navy the unmarried ~deers all contrihnted. He ti.asglad of the agreement on the other side, and should have moved for a return of the affidavit *node 1w widows, if the concessions made had not reoffered it unneceisay. Earl BRAUCHAMP presented the Report of the Conimittre on the Standing Orders, 185, 186, .187, and 191. GOLD COINAGE. The Earl of LAunettnALE hatl . heartl that a large gold coin>►t;e was intended for the year 1818, the expence of which would be 70,0001. Four millions }►ad b e , q) c o ined last year,. at all expence 0f ,40,0001. of which 2,500,0001._ had disappeared, •so - that 25,0001 had keen thrown away. In the same manner the proposed expenditure 01:70,0001. would be thrown away also. He therefore moved for an estimate of the expence of the gold coin age (0r the year 1815, and an account of the loss arising out of the old silver, and the issue of the tie IS ' EXCHANGE OF SCOTCH ESTATES. The Earl of LAUDERDALE gave notice, that on Friday he should call the attention of the House to 'all the Standing Oiders respecting the, Ex .c tinge of Scotch Estates. The Scotch Law of entails rendered the number of consents neces sary to complete an-excuange vety numerous: His purpose' was, to diminish this number..-Ad jammed till HOUSE OF COMMONS. The West India nee Port Bill was committed.—Report to- Morrow. The Spirit Intercourse Bill was committed. Report to morrow. IRISH GRAND JURIES. Mr. C. BUTLER moved for leave to bring in a Bill to re gulate the Grand .Fury Presentments in Ireland. Mr, coWPER insisted ou the necessity of some material .alteration in the present. law. Sir I. NEWPORT regretted. that so large a part of the Ses sion had elapsedithout same material amendment in the , existing laws relative to Grand Jurics. The abuses of the present sysl e!sl had produced infinite rnischief Mr. CROKER. expressed much apprehensiOn that the pro posed Bill c -old not attain the desired object. He remarked on the valions alterations %vhich- each succeeding Session had made in the law on this subject, without in any degree re moving the evils. It was not by any general sweeping mea sure like the proposed Bill that the desired amendment could be made. Gradual and progressive - iruprovoinent find publi city were the means by which the existing evils could be removed. Sir F. FLOOD maintained, that the remedy wished for might be obtained by a general Act to alter the whole of the present system, and therefore he hoped his Hon. Friend would succeed in the present Bill. He trusted, that this Bill would be passed without the obnoxious clauses which he had opposed in the last BR on the subject. Sir C. MUNCK thought the're should be an approxima tion of general spirit and systena of the Laws of Gram! Juries in Ireland to those,of linglann. Some standingorder ought to be made to prevent any' , Nlember from introducing -any Bill relative to Irish Grand Juries, without the Report of a 'Committee. or some other evidence before'the House, as to the necessity of the prOposed Sill. After a few words from Mr. Parnell, Mr. Chichesteri and. - General Hart, the motion was , agreed to. ..• INDEX TO THE' JOURNALS. • , On the motion of Nlr. B. uAT[TuRsT, a Select Commit tee was'appointed to inquire into the 'defective state of the •Index to the Jonrnals of the House, aitd to report as to the best means for continuing the same: Lord STANLEY presented a Petition from certain inhabi tants of Oldham, in Lancashire, praying for radical Iteformo.— .Readi and ordered to lie o the tattle. ,"LOAN 111 LL. On the motion for a Cothinatee on the Loan Bill, Mr. GRENFELL gave notice, that h - eihten'cled to 'move in the' Committee, as an - amendment, the omission of the clause which gave the Bank a-fee of Is. Bd., in the pound on the 3,000504 AL. and 'about lOU. in the pound on the 27,001001. Exche'opey Bilis to he funded. He was resolved take the sense`of the Committee on tills amend- • .111 r: J P,TGRANT conic' „ not anow;tbis opportu nity to pHss %%idiom expressing . .o4 , . suprise that in this the third year of peace, the Chancellor of the-Exchequer should come-dO*6 Ln the House proposing to borrow - for ifie supplies of the year noless thin 14,000;0001: The Right Hint. Chan cellor-of the Exchequer had never yet - hOd before the 'House any proper statement of die Fin ', ances but told them that he meant to provide for the in terest srt •the additional debt which he was year atter year incurring, not in the usual .way, - out. of the taxes, but by taking from the Sinking Fond. •He could not unde6tand the use of this nominal Sinking Ft,l4 ; if we were to go on borrowing .every year, and providin g imthis•way for the in terest of the debt. The Right Honourable - Gen tietnan,• though he required.l4,ooo,oool.. had no - t yet' stated how he intended . to raise it, except that 3,000,0001. of it was to be raised by way of loan. He theref.we supposed that the Right Hon. Gentleman intended to. raise t be °they 1 1,000,0001. by Exchequer Bille. This was serving no pur= pose but throwing a flimiy.veil over the real fittan7 eial . state of the country, which ir was the duty of every MeMber of the House to throw aside. • "Elie CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER that as to the addition to the Onfutided-debt the last three years, he only knew of two means of providing money for the public service, by taxes or by loan.- it was true that within the last three years we had added 16,000,0001. to the Unfunded Debt, but that during that time a capi tal, -of . the Funded • Debt of 50,000,0001. of stock, or about 40,000.6001. in money, . had been paid - okfi. So much for the operations of the three last years. He must - admit that the arrangements - tor • the present year were in some degree complicated - ; -but the result of these operations would be, that by the conclusion of the year we should have diminished die` Funded Debt to tie amount •of 15,000,0001. without hay-. iug added to the Unfunded Debt any thing be yond its present amount.. The House then resolved itself into the Coin mittee. Mr.GRENFELL objected to the clause allowing the bonus to the Bank. He said- that the nature . of - the lervice'perfortned by the Bank consisted , merely in receiving the deposits of the subscribers to the loan and granting' receipts to them. In ' 'additicio to this, they allowed 11 discount to those . subscribers who felt inclined to anaicipate the time (if paying•up their .subscriptions. - This was the whole of the service for. which the Bank •was, to receive the enormous recotnpence allowed by the present clause. When the immense advan tages which the - Bank derived in other respects. &Om the public were considered, be thought it was - not too much to expect that these trifling services should be perforMed without _the proposed recom pence. - The House, perhaps, was not aware of the enormous 'sums. which had been pocketed' by the. Bank during the War, on account of this fee on the deposits. During 'the last seventeen years of the war, the Bank bad received no leSs than 324,0001. for this fee. He also objected - to . the wording of the clause. 'He wished that the. question of this remuneration should be referred io the consideration of a COmmittee, and for the two . last Sessions had moved for the appointment of such a Committee. lie had - hitherto refrained from making a similar motion this Session, on ac count of the appointment - of the Finance Com mittee. But as tie now understood. that the in-. quiries of the Finance Conimittee were . not.lo be extended to this siJ)ject, he intended to move on TtieSdaynext for the appointment of.such a Corn mittee. The amount of the bonus which this clanse:wouhl allow on the present occasion was' 13,2001. 'This wati the very first tittle 'on which such a charge had ever . .been made oti the funding of Exchequer Bill: '. He eoncluded - -hy 'Moving. that this clause he ot;tittsKl, The CHANCELLOR of.the,ExCHEQU'Eß.said, that he had no hesitation. in sayi6g . that the subject dwelt von by the. Hon. Gentleman was a very, fit one for the considet whin of the Finance Commit- tee, although be had certainly, for particular rea sons, objected to their entering upon the conside.,' ration of it hitherto. As to the bonus allowed by the clause - in question, it had in every instance since the Revolution been.allowed. As to a sot& hr allowaocton the funding of Exchequer Bills, it certainly was. novel'. But .hitherto this opera tion had -been conducted in the Exchequer pill Office. In -the. present case.the tveratiou was of a verycomplex - nature, attended with a. transfer of Stock, and - and the -creation or a new Stock-, not conducted at. the Excherper Office, but originat ing at the Bank: It entailed even more expense On the Bank, and more trouble, than the operit , . !ion of a Loan. He had, however, objected to allowing the -Bank so large a sum as was allowed on Loans, and the Bank Directors had agreed to accept an.allowance of 4001.• on 'every million, or one-half 'the. usual allowaute on Loans. When all these circumstances were considered, he was sure 't he House . would be of opinion that the al lowance was not objectionable. Sir JOHN NEWPo-ST observed, that the Right Hob. Gentleman. admitted that the charge op funding Exchequer Bulls was a new . one. , .The ex cuse was, that the transaction was a'complicated one ; but he believed that all complicated finan cial arrangements' turned out disadvantageous to the public.• He was very much at a-loss to know how the funiling of Exchequer Bills in the pre sent case differed from other cases. In truth, the Chancellor of the Exchequer seemed to have been making so many alterations and ,rnodifications in his ' complicated plan, that he was quite at the mercy-of the Stock Exchange. He Was convinced ;hat art.ordinaty Loan •,woukl have - been ,more ad vantageous to the . The CHANCELLoft of -the EXCHECIVER —lt Was' to be considered that an ordinary loan,would have been attended with dohble the expense of the present plan. As to what was said of his being at the - mercy of the Stock -Fxchattge, it might be truly said that his plan was ,undertaken in direct defiance of the Stock Exchange.—(llear, hear !) Mr. J. P. GRANT said; if Ire understood rightly, the Bank received an'allowance on the *ansfer of old stock into the new, and received an allowance Opon the Exchequer Bills, as much as if it had been a loan ;• at least half as much. , He would wish to kno►i. whether . , taking the Sinking Fund into the account, the present plan was not as expen sive as a loan _ The CHANCELLOR. of the EXCHEQUER.—.—In ansWer Co' :the Poil.-anct - Le!ifned h e had no difficulty in riplyitik, that ati ofifinary loan could not Have .been effected at nearly so small an expence. 'fife 1-Ion: and Learned ,Gentleman seemed to think there :was a separate allowance on the. transfer of Stock' and on the funding of Exchequer Bills, which_was not the case. Mr. GRRNFELL expressed surprise that none of the Members of the Bank had risen to . defendlhat establishment on this occasion. It was no.answer to his objection to this allowance that it had: been tumid from tine immemorial ; in tact that ;was exactly. onemibis objections to it. He recollect - - ed when the chate by the Bank for the manage. meta of the Public Debt was as much as 5601. per million . , but it .was now redUced. to 2001. o r 3001,. , per million. It might as well have been objected to that diminution, that the 5601. had be-eu granted for time immemorial. After a few words in explanation. from the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, and from Sir WM. Buitaouatis and Mr. BANK.RS; the House • For the Clause . • 4G For the Aniendwent 3l Majority.... _ _ Mr. GRENEELL then moved, that the Chairman -should leave the chair, and report . progress. , —On this the House divided— • Ayes ; 25 Noes Against the motion —l9 . The Bill then went through the Committee, and the Report was ordered to be received to-morrow. Mr: BROUGHAM moved for an Account of the Number of Commissions of Inquiry into the Administration of Charita ble Funds issued under the 43d of Elizabeifi, hi-fore the year 1746, and subsequently; and also of the Number of Petitions presentedto the Lord Chancellor, 'and all.. Bills filed before the Court of Chancery, resperting the: abuse of Charitable Fun44s, and of the Names of all Charities 'touching which ConnuisSions 'of Inquiry have been isSked.,—Agreed to. Mr. PEEL brought in a Bill to amend the Act for Building Court and Sessions Houses in Ireland.--Read a first time, and ordered for it second reading to-morrow. On Mr. BENNET% motion, the House went 'into a Com -mittee on the Offenders' Rewards' Bill. The Report was re ceived, and ordere , l - to be taken into further consideration on sMonday. next. • The Pardon under the Great Seal Bill was read-a third time and passed. • • Mr. Alderman WOOD postponed the second reading-of the Irish Partnership Bill to this day fortnight. Mr. BROGPElsVbrought up the Report of the Cotton Fac tory Bill.--Agreed to,. and the Bill ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. . _ _ • • The Report of the Labourers' Wages' Regulation Bill was received, and the Bill ordered to be read a third _time to• umrrow.---Adjourned. , - SHEERNESS, APRIL 27. - On Thursday last was deposited at Wnster, in the isle of Bheppy, the remains of the late Mr. STRODE, Assistant Master Attendant at this port fin• several years past, whose death (occasioned by, the unfortnnate upse. of his boat when return ing from the Nore) was recorded in THE SUN of the 20th instant. _ l'he . Fernains of Mr. STRODE; .were followed to the grave by a fon , train of Naval O ffi cers and friends, headed by Captain WALKER, and almost all Lite Officers"beiht , NVrthurrilYe'rland - guard ! ship. A subscription has beets openc(l for' the purpose of placing a tablet to . his memory, as a mark of the es!cent of his bonerous friends ; and every effort •is unaking_t6 procure sonieladdition to a Master's pension, Which his highly respectable, but sadly afflicted - widow 'and large family, will now so greatly need. It seldom halipensln,4fen moving•in the sphere of . life Mr. sTßorsg,• to, be so much respected as he was 'while living, and so sincerely lamented now_dead.- lie was one of those rare characters, conibining. a haPpy, ittauity of manner and ame nity of . disposition, a nobleness- of nature.above servility, a gOodness- of heart above hypoctisy; a docility ynder, with firmness of purpose in, 'command, that gained him the respect, "the esttem, and the love of all 'who knew hint, He had served many years as a Master of a ship with tie late gallant Sir SAmuEL-Hoots, which alone would speak a volume . in. his praise. All the youngsters; followers-, of that. gallant. Officer, whose nautical., reckonings and' dreary days'. works Mr. STRODE7S.OIIty, as a Master, enjoined 'hint to contrbul and correct, as they rose to rank and command, 'never reached the port ~where he was moored, without making his .welfare their firs/ entptiry, and irever qiiitted.it.without blend ing with their wishes for hit Vrosperity their grateful acknowledgements that he had 'been to them .a guile .and:cOnnsellor in their youthful reckonings, a ready friend in their ‘vatit and need, and a fatherly monitor in their failings and their follies. Kr.. ST RODE has left a.large family, respectably. brought up under fiis fostering care, with little more than their father's good naive for their future sup port. He was the only sufferer upon the melan choly occasion, the whole °fit he boat's crew hav ing been picked np and saved. That such a man, apptirently living in the exercise of every .Chris tian virtue, upon whose existence depended the support and succour of so many amiable and de- serving fibjects, 'should be thus singly and sud-, denly snatched from life, is one of those mysterious visitations .of Providence which frail mortals are notTermittecl tocomarehend„ although daily called upon to contemplate ; to note, take warning by, and prepare for. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. MARLBOROUGH-STREET. ;" Samuel TuOridge was chaiged wil - hforging and. "uttering a bill of exchange, purporting to be of the value of 201., with intent . to 'defraud Mr. Joyce, a baker; in Rupert streeti Haymarket .—He was _remanded. George Turrier was fully committed for trial for having forged notes in his 'possession, which sub jects-him to tramsportatimi tor.seven years. Bion'MY. George' Coulton was - charged with bigarny; Of tither an,inteiesting nature. Be tad only ft'ed With his. second. wife a month, as it op- . , piared; .wh'en he pledged her gold watch, and other articles of value, and ansconded.-=The par tiptitaio Were .not entered into, and the prisoner %%las remanded. —'Yesterday, about one o'clock in the afternoon, a. Gentleman's servant riding along Finsbury. square' on a high spirited horse", - - which b'ing startled at something, beeame so unmanageable that 'lie ,threw his 'rider and fell upon him, by which he broke his leg, and received several other LAW INTELLIGENCE• ' COURT OF KING'S BENCH, Mau« g 9• MANDAMUS TO THE GOVERNOR AND COMM THE BANK-OF ENGLAND • ^ tin s ' be Mr. BROUGHAM moved, that Mai2dal”-ti directed to tiv Governor and Company of the d " 3 1 8 of England, ordering them to proceed to sqr ` all the profits accruing to ,t hat - establish ment P e vious to the 191 h of Mare') last, over awl obi the expellees incurred in the conduct of i ts c' fbir- of it . - Ells application was founded upon the af 6dav a proprietor of Bank stock, whose moue t , 0 1; not • state, id which it was sworn, to th e bes ble the . deponent's belief, there was a conmid e , r ,: ft o • balance in the hands of the Governor an ti `c i - 0 0 pony, - on which they had made and dec lare tha t dividend. The Learned Counsel obser ved, the object of the, motion was to.compel a ° re pliance with the provisions of the three se ti o s Latin; to the Bank of England; .by whic h ! t ar , of enacted that there should be no Bcm-1)010P-- capital.' Lord ELLENBOROUGH asked in what witY I- I of sworn that- there was a balance in the bait 's_ the Governor and Company.? j „ fors BROUGHAM answered, tliat as the "" - ,. c t iott would furhish 'no accounts, and allow no iosli e rlfrie of the books to the proprietors, it was itle s l 9 „ace for the depnnent to 'swear decisively to a b'bot in the hands of the GoverOor and COmils tl ?' he distinctly stated his . -belief - and conviction' apprehended that tlie' Cohrt was called . 0 1n ) ",,ot interpose Summarily i to prevent the infringe. 014.: of 'the•latv ; and one very learned "person ha d 0 ready given it as his - opinion that in this mandamus would lie. - vo , t hs ' 7 ' Lord ELLENBoRoUGH wi s hed t o kilo opinion were given judicially, or privafelY l t„ Mr. BROUGHAM answered, that he cerioni•libiti no right to say that it was given otherwise , to privately - 4 / but he mentioned as a watra ti n 7 o himself in advising and making the presen t 6r. cation. • -f the Lord ELLENBORoDOH inquired, if at anY Quarterly Courts papers had been moved ply of show the actual State of the funds in the 11° ' , the Governor and Company, and refused ? e Mr. BROUGHAM was not aware that the r : i i bst. been any Such proceeding ; but be contendeu t o ft their Lordships, upon an affidavit like t i n to which he now moved, would he e a lled - nPl o t grant a mandamus, even` should appear t a t the majority of the Court of Proprietors resi' t • o riti production ► of - the balanbe-sheet. If t he 11 i-o directed what was illegal, viz. that a balan ce s ';11 0 accumulate in the hands of the propriet°ls:die- Coart would take care that the acts of titc ment were'complied with. The inajoritY , () e Court of Proprietors might proceed to &P riv 0 0 minority of any dividend at all ; but, it sth , t itlif , , minolity would have a right to relief by res""tror to the Court of King's Bench: It Was c l r 5 0V, to the clear wording of the two first of n ,. totes, that any capital should accumulat e ,' i doubt existed, it would be removed by t" e i s ell statute, and by the by-laws'of -the companY' If, in the return to the mandamus, the G , ve ,be and Company should satisfy the Court II"' was no balancein their hands, no accano"l‘•o of capital, there would be an end of the t l it , e , sll 4 l or if It were shown that a balance _was " r r a tion g t s iot t to the conduct of the affairs of the COrl',": ' and that on this account it had been al''': . ; e o fo f remain and accumulate, still it would rer t ; aa g the Court to decide, 'whether even th a t ‘, ‘ ..,,tate s. contrary to the express provisions of the si te 'Lord pLLENHOROUGH.-11 capitA, tar, t coa ti uagemerit - and conduct of the affairs of I,,'“tter ba patty be an omitted ease, recourse had " c ; ,bad _to the Legislature to remedy the det ec :„ . t sor . Mr. BitouGHAM urged that, even upon id ver oo l. position . , it, would be the duty of, the (3 ':alta l it t and Company to .apply to ,p ar harneut had already said was clear and uneiv",3,e 010: they shall divide, 'Hutt shall not acqeiuonin' tal ;' and if an alteration be iteeessarY, tlie then; should prevail upon the', Legislature, to g rst- ,lre" indemnity for having infringed the act s -,ol oll ' passed', and permission for the future t °ll- late capital. take Lord ELLENHOROUGH.-:-.1. think yon . 0 18- rule to show cause. THE KING . V. WILLIAM AND CIIAEI IBO The defendants were tied and found the Sittings . after last Term, before 1.1,40 wit h borough, - on an indictment, charging t u v ' e rCe/r e having endeavoured to excite Captain'''. es , i fi l to fight a duel with the defendant C. Da this circumstances were at the time stated 1 014, per. William Davies was sentenced t ° i f„j e nt , Charles Davies to two months' col/ 6 ' l 'lop the custody of the Marshal of the Mats lita ere r Yesterday Francis Kelly, a p oor ou) lab °- 0 ployed at the new building in Barline, a bl r "' (lens, met with a serious' accident ---4 ,: hod, of bricks having . fallen upoA lit which he Was dreadfu l ly cut. • • COAL My).PKE'r, April fle. , vice' Skips at Market. Ships sold. • tO 415 64 Newcastlu 6 Sunderland. 6 465. :• BIRTHS dulls On Monday last, in Piccadilly the Lady 0, lle ar° O Esq nofTuesday the Adinira last, lty Mrs., of a Metcalf Gower7str son: c e., to 'square, , rreol of a son. . of dame s ~t • On the 13th inst. at Florence, the Lady Borkdoin, Esq. of a daughter. • At the Right Hon. Sir John Sinclair's, Lady of George' Sinclair, Esq. of a son and heir,• ' . MARRIED. of 1 0 1 • FM' yh i 0 Yesterday, at St:Pancras, Joseph Waltels, m a r e . lane, Cheapsiiie; and Edmonton, Middlesex, it,`:.iiices-str widow of the late James Foot, jdo. Esq. of Sei_taifields. . :1 ' DIED, • t o f relic ellts2 On the 26th inst. Mrs. Charlotte Skinner, Joseph Skinner surgeon 6f his' Maje4y's estb reg i ,„ S. daughter of the late Charles Davids, 'Esq.. of - " o t ol Wales. lls On the 27th inst. at Eltharn, Kent, of a fever , z aged 10, eldest daughter of Thomas Cleere, Esq. ----- mat p. LONDON: Printed by.). B: CARSTAIRS, of NO . i 7,/ 0 4 .0 Ormond-street, Queen-square; an d putylistleti (1,0, SCRIPPS, of No:7, South Ntohon.-street, at Of Office, No. 112, Strand ; where Advertisements) WWII ) am (post-paid) wait be addressed. .~ 2`4„ P c , '44, 44 °Sic. re)i 4r4 led P r ttoel t tell 4 th ~/ ~} on, P e „ ,) : LA ME a p eri, tig ek, 'i//,,,. Ti fif),i 4 fo r 444(