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SPIRIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURNAL S . These Tories are, after all, bungling blockheads. Honesty and truth are strangers to their cabals, but for cunning and dexterity they have frequently received credit. We dispute the title of the faction even to this merit, such as it is. If the Tories were dexterous or cunning, they would not for the last week have been propagating an insidious report, by means of the whip pers in, and of certain insiders and outsiders of the Dilly, that the mutilations of the Peers upon the Irish Church Bill, are per se fatal to the measure, in asmuch as the clauses from fifty to fifty-seven, being of the nature of a money-bill, could not be altered or struck out by the Lords, and these clauses having been partly altered and partly expunged by the Peers, the Speaker could not receive the Bill in its pre sent form. The object of this mendacious report is palpable. The Tories wanted to lull the Reformers into a false security, and thus to obtain for their own factious cause and selfish interests that victory by fraud, which they invariably failed to achieve by the force of argument or of numbers in the reformed House of Commons. Now this betrayed gross stu pidity on the part of the corruptionists—for at least two reasons. First, the liberal press of the empire has been for upwards of a fortnight urging upon the liberal representatives of the nation the paramount ne cessity of being in their places on the 2d of August. Secondly, the Prime Minister in his speech on the night of this day week, declared, in pre cise terms, that to . the appropriation clause he and his colleagues were irrevocably pledged— that to it they would adhere while supported by the country, but that the instant they ceased to have the support of a majority in the House of Commons upon this question, that moment they would retire from office, the seals of which they would not resign while sustained by a majority of the repre sentatives of the people. Now if Ministers did not anticipate the reception of the mutilated measure by the Lower House, and a consequent debate, and finally a division, for otherwise they could not obtain a majo rity, of which they are sure ; and if, also, the friends of Ministers did not see the necessity of having all the liberal Commoners at their post, what was the mean ing of the Minister's candid, manly declaration ?—or what was the motive for the earnest appeals of the liberal journals to the Reforming Members of the House of Commons ? With that declaration, and with these appeals ringing in their ears, it was not likely that the popular r epresentatives who had left town, or were about to quit London, would pay atten tion to the inuendos or impudent assertions of avowed Tories or despicable trimmers. It was, therefore, neither cunning nor prudent on the part of the Tories to spread a report which could not aid their purpose, and which they must have known, if they were not idiots, would be afterwards turned against them. Absurd and impudent, however, though the Tory assertion about the non-reception of the mangled Bill by th e Speaker was, its impudence is eclipsed by their later more audacions assertion that the friends of Go vernment have been circulating a rumour that there would be no division after all ! No further back than Saturday morning the renegade print had the boldness to interlard a characteristically mendacious and unprin cipled article with the following piece of outrageous falsehood :—" But they (Ministers) know this (that if i hey reject the lordly mutilations, they will be driven front office) it seems, anti have hit upon the clever expedient of shirking all discussion on the merits of the Bill, and sneaking out of this awful (!) pre dicament, by a resort to some question of privilege." This " question of privilege" has been already ex plained, it is the Tory device for winning a fraudulent victory, by cheating Reformers into a fatal security, sprinting from the notion that the 1-louse of Commons could not receive the mutilated Bill. This question was, however, set at rest—the Tory stratagem was blown to pieces—the fraudulent scheme of the faction was unmasked on Thorsday night last, when the muti lated Bill was actually received, and ordered to be taken into consideration on Tuesday next (to -mor row.) Thu recreant journal stated these facts in its own columns on Friday morning, and yet, in the tee:h of ite own report of what occurred in the House of Commons upon the Chancellor of the Exchequiu's motion, with the facts which, by anticipation, pee the tie to its leading article staring the writer in the face, that journal had the har dihood to publi:fit on Saturday the passage we have extracted. This complication of folly, malice, and turpitude, will not, however, now excite surprise. T .e public are too familiar with the incessant outrages o the apostate upon truth and decency and common sense, to he astonished at any particular offence of this sort, no matter how atrocious, that may he commit ted in Printing-house-square. Now-a-days what people marvel at in that quarter is a stray gleam of decency, or an accidental adherence to facts. With respect to the material point—the division on the Lords' Amend ments—that will, we believe, be decided to-morrow night. Ministers must be desirous to bring the sub ject to a close with the least possible delay. A con siderable deal of important business remains to be done, and all parties look forward with anxiety to the hour of prorogation. Hence we infer a short debate upon the hacknicd question of the Irish Church and a division on the first night. There is nothing in the present maimed offipring of Tory spite and lordly tyranny to win over doubters—if any such there be on the Ministerial side of time House, or to allay the indignation of all straightforward Reformers. The Bill, as now returned from the Upper House, is worse even than the mutilated measure which the country last year scouted. If evil result from the non settlement of the Tithe question, they alone arc re sponsible, before God and moan, who have indulged a factious spite and a corrupt motive at the expense of justice and of the peace of Ireland. Ministers pre pared a healing measure—the Representatives of the people passed it—the country approved of it—and the Tory Lords destroyed it. The Commons, for the public good, passed the original Bill—and for the public good they must and will reject the mutilated measure of the Tory Lords.—Morning Chronicle. The threatened Whig-Radical tactics remind us of the ingenious devices of the disciple of Dando, whose exploits have recently amused our police-offices. When the hour of reckoning arrived, that practised trickster was in the habit of producing a pinchbeck pencil-case, which he avowed his honest readiness to leave in pawn for the value of his vanished plate of' beef a la nzorle, or Irish stew, which, we believe, is the dish more in fashion now. So, to-morrow, when that straight forward and plain-dealing firm, yclep'd the Cabinet, after regaling another Session on the official banquet, are to be called upon to settle their accounts with the people of England, the nation, we understand, is to be bilked. Privilege, forsooth, is to be the Whig-Radical pencil-case, and the worthless gage by which these Dandos of Downing-street are to ex tricate themselves from their ludicrous embarrassments. But we tell them it won't do. One who knew them well has immortalized the fine touch and nimble mani pulation of their thimbleriggery, but it will require powers of deception beyond even their allies of May nooth or St. Omer's to palm off' this monstrous juggle on the English people as the act either of patriots or statesmen, or men of common sense, common honesty, or common spirit. What ! after destroying a Govern ment, menacing ancient establishments, aed agitating a whole empire in favour of the unnecessary enunciation of a barren principle,—after having declared, over and over again, that by this principle they would stand or fall, that without it there could be no good government and that, if but acknowledged, like charity, it would cover even all their sins, will they slink out of the back door of the great edifice of faction of which this is th e corner-stone ? Will they leave their precious bantling, the hybrid offspring of bigotry and plunder, in the lurch ? Will they fling away in a fright the blunderbuss charged for them by the Romish priests, and with which they have so long swaggered, and take to their heels ? And on what possible pretence is all this squeamish ness ? Their honour is touched, forsooth ! There shall be no division, say they, because the Lords, in some manner still unknown, and which we fancy will remain unexplained, have trenched upon our privileges So ! so ! The Whig-Radicals, it seems, are very D .v lorous, but they will not " fight upon compulsion." ~.., 1 Afeulftllppear that they are not in the cue for com orr4.,s7? - 40 3 1.1p{esent. The Lords touch their privileges. - 4 :1 i477: - ;:Wl6oit riltes ? Let them name and prove them. ‘ l .l 47;,,,: . ' 3:414 That there has been no hostile animus on the part of the Lords to the privileges of the Commons is by this circumstance mainly and triumphantly evident—that their Lordships, with considerate delicacy, forbore in serting their projected grant for national education in this very Tithe Bill, lest they might offend the feelings of the Commons by originating an enactment that savoured of taxation. Even so late as on the third reading of this same Irish Tithe Bill, Lord Lyndhurst renounced his intention of introducing another clause of minor consequence, inasmuch as it might be construed into an infringement of the privileges of the Commons. If, therefore, the privileges of the Commons have been invaded, the 1 intention of that invasion has been innocent. It might, as is constantly the case under such circumstances, be passed over sub silentio—it is often unobserved as well as unnoticed. Privilege is a delicate subject after all. It is not law ; it is not always custom ; but if it be so clear a case of violation, however unintentional, that the House of Commons could scarcely be held as doing their duty to their successors were they silent, and the Bill must consequently be thrown out, the practice of Parliament affords a prompt and easy remedy. Let the Standing Orders of the House be suspended, and let a new Bill be introduced and passed in eight-and-forty hours, Tories as well as Whigs would combine in this arrangement. Any thing more tolerable than blinking by an unsavoury sidewind the settlement of a question on which the nation has set its heart. That would indeed be pitiful. But the truth is, there has been no violation of the pri vileges of the Commons at all. The Lords have only exercised those powers with which the Constitution has invested them, and which the practice of Parliament has sanctioned. The whole rumour is an invention of the enemy, trembling in the recesses of their official bureaus, in all the degrading perplexities of weak minds and craven spirits. They know very well, that whether the Bill be lost or carried, their deplorable rule in England is terminated for ever. The merits of the Irish Tithe Bill are now so generally appreciated —it is so universally recognized as the most just, com prehensive, well-digested, and statesmanlike measure of reform that has yet been propounded, that no Mi nister dare, for the sake of a factious sentiment—no more—incorporated in a clause (it might for all prac tical effects be Erin-go-bragh as well as the appropria tion principle), counsel the rejection of a Bill sanc tioned by the whole of the House of Lords and nine tenths of the House of Commons. There will, then, he a division—there must be a division—ay I and a division, too, on the merits of the question. It is de manded by the whole country from the southern coast to Newcastle. Oh ! word of fear, Unpleasing to a Whiggish ear !" Three counties in less than three weeks were not sufficient to open the sealed eyes of my Lord Viscount Melbourne. Still he harped on the support of the country. Newcastle, we suspect, has couched him. Why, the Conservative party may adopt now the surname of the Macedonian conqueror, and style itself Poliorectes, or the Taker of Cities! Can the Papist party try their chance at a general election by a mare favourable instance? Here is a northern town, with a very large constituency, of extreme liberality in politics even before the reform of Parliament—a town now governed by a new Whig-Radical Corporation, with a revenue at their disposal second only to that of Liver pool ; and it is carried by a Conservative without a canvass, and in the teeth of a Government candidate who had been two days in the field I If the muni cipal Reform will not serve the Whigs in Newcastle, where in the name of funds and faction will it ? But the game is up. They may go on holding their Cabinet Councils, and guzzling, with what appetite thy may, their Cabinet dinners ; they arc as surly doomed as wassailers in some city of the pest with the plague spot rising on their front. We announced the malignant taint in their society when all looked fresh and fair ; and now it has spread and cankcred is uni versally recognised and universally shunned. And we, who have fought the battle of the English peo ple under all circumstances and at all seasons, were accused, by short-sighted poltroons and eager-mouthed traitors of deserting the great cause of civil and reli gious liberty because we opposed these men—because we hoked askew at the toleration of a monk's cowl and the freedom of a jacobin's cap—because, overtoppinp, the mists and heats of party, We saw, as from a tower, the end of all;" nd, forsceit:p. the ignoble tyranny impending over this ancient and illmtrious land, we summoned the En,- lish nation to their old allegiance, gauged the depth of the national heart, and struck the key-note of the national sympathy, and called the people back to old English feelings for the sake of preserving old English fr,:edoin.— Times. As to Cle Prisoners' Counsel Bill, altlionjh it is no small advance in the reform of our criminal jurispru dence, that persons accused of felony should be allowed to make their full defence by Counsel, vet we agree with those AI - embers of the Legislature who regard the concession as very incomplete, unless the last word be permitted to the prisoner. We think so, for this plain reason, that every accused person should be allowed the opportunity of explaining, if be can, everything of which he is accused, and every circumstance upon which a guilty construction is put. This he cannot do unless he has the last word. It is then for the Judge to weigh the evidence and the statements on both sides, and for the Jury to say whether the case for the prose cution is so well made out as not to be shaken by the prisoner's answer to the whole and every part of the charge.—Morning Herald. It always affords us pleasure, when our duty to the public and ourselves allows us, to extend our approba tion to the measures of the existing Government, re membering, as we do, that the cause of Reform owes very much to the exertions of those who compose it. We, however, cannot shut our eyes to its errors, and are sorry to be obliged to confess that they are becom ing daily more numerous. We shall turn away from Lord Melbourne's last speech upon the English Tithe Bill, which contained some very pernicious passages, and such as never should have escaped from the bps of a Reforming Minister, and come at once to a subject connected with the Irish Government, which has provoked the severe animadversion of our respected and generally well-informed weekly contemporary the Examiner. We allude to the appointment by Lord IVlul grave, of Tories, if not Orangemen, to situations in the new Irish constabulary. Really we begin to think that some dire fatality hangs over the destiny of the Whigs, which impels them, in obedience to a principle of cow ardice or something akin to it, to pursue a system of degrading and culpable conciliation. In Ireland, more than any other part of the empire, because of the ex traordinary virulence of Orange Toryism, the bad effects of this despicable system has been most appa rent. Lord Anglesey thought to conciliate the Irish Tory faction by promoting the leaders of that party whenever an opportunity offered, and only succeeded, by doing so, in rendering it more troublesome in its opposition, and more audacious in its attacks upon his Government ; while he gave liberal men reason to sus pect that he was either a very foolish or a very insin cere statesman, to neither of which imputations we think he was justly liable. Lord Wellesley, a liberal man in the main, but whose bias rather inclined to Toryism, adopted a similar course, until an attempt was made to break his head, in the Dublin playhouse, by flinging a bottle at it. This naturally aroused his indignation, and demonstrated to him the utter futility of endeavouring to conciliate such opponents. Lord Mulgrave com menced a very different career, and while he adminis tered the affairs of the Irish Government with perfect impartiality towards all, he avoided the error of at tempting to conciliate confirmed and implacable ene mies by convincing them that he was • afraid of them. We need not say that this straightforward course was attended with the best consequences, as it gave confi dence to the friends of Government, and discouraged its opponents. Unfortunately this plan has once more been superseded by the old practice of conciliation — and we have, therefore, Lord Mularave nominating to influential situations in the Irish constabulary persons whom, to say the least ofit, never should have been ad mitted into that force. We have perused with regret, and something like disappointment, the feeble defence set up by the Morning Chronicle, as a sort of pal liation of Lord Mulgrave's conduct, for having ap pointed an Orangeman, of the name of Little, to a place in the constabulary. It is to be deplored that this pitiful trimming does not stop here, but is again displayed by the elevation of Colonel Cuyler to be a stipendiary police magistrate of the city of Dublin, who is reported to be a red-hot Conservative. This truckling, we must persist in saying, is " too bad," and if persevered in must have the effect of alienating the confidence of the Irish people from a Government capable of descending to such meanness. What is the chief argument which Mr. O'Connell uses to induce Reformers . of every class to abandon those minor differ ences upon which they are known to disagree, and to sustain the present Government at all hazards ? Why, the injury which Ireland would suffer, should a Tory Administration return to power, by the appointment of a furious class of Orange partisans ; and yet we behold in the present instance Lord Mulgrave doing the very thing which M r . O'C on n e ll d e pr ec ates. We could wish that some persons would in time learn that if Whigs in office take it into their heads to act like 'Tories—that the people may at length begin to reflect whether the mere nominal distinction is worth con tending about—in other words, a perfect indifference may prevail as to whether we be ruled by Tory Con formers, or Conservative Whigs ?—Morning Advcr user. A report was current on Saturday that his Majesty's Ministers in the House of Commons mean to treat the amendments made by the House of Lords in the Irish Tithe Bill as a matter of privilege, and to attempt to persuade the former assembly that they are bound by the practice of Parliament to reject the Bill, as re turned to them, without reference to its merits, and simply upon the ground, that it is a Money Bill, which the Lords should not be permitted to alter. This rumour seems too absurd to merit much consideration, although it has been circulated with considerable industry by the inferior agents of the Government. The device would, no doubt, be a convenient one for Minis - ters, since it would, if successful, relieve them from the odium of rejecting a confessedly good practical measure, for the very insufficient reason, that it has been divested of a principle confessedly inope rative and useless for many years to come. But we will not believe, until we witness it, that Ministers will venture to -take this ground, and still less will we believe that part of the rumour dis seminated by Ministerial authority, that the Chair of the House of Commons is to be stultified and degraded by the Speaker lending his sanction to so preposterous a pretension. The Members of the House of Corn mons, in asserting such a claim as that which it is said the King's Ministers mean to suggest to them, would be attempting, in manifest violation of the Constitu tion, to legislate, to establish a new principle of law, by means of a mere resolution of their own, without the concurrence of the other branches of the Legisla ture. •It is not the law of England at this moment, but is, on the contrary, repugnant to the clearest prin ciples of the law of England, that the property of the Church is public property, which the House of Com mons can its pleasure grant to the Crown. The ,ap propriation principle even, which the Lords have ex punged from the Irish Tithe Bill, stopped very far short of this monstrous assumption. The vote which it is pretended Ministers will venture, on Tuesday, to pro pose to the House of Commons would therefore be a vote to alter the nature and subvert the foun dation of a particular description of property. It would be an attempt to effect, by the mere will of one branch of the Legislature, something more than the present Ministers ventured to attempt by means of an Act of the whole Legislature. If such a resolution were to be proposed and adopted, it might justly be regarded as an intimation that the House of Commons is henceforth to make laws for the country, without the assistance or the control of the Peerage or the Sovereign. The time is not yet come for this re volutionary arrogance, and therefore we conclude that the Lords' Amendments will bc discussed in reference exclusively to their merits, and that the coup (Petal e:hich has been for some days in the contemplation of I .Ministers will not be resorted to. We should entreat the Conservative Members of the House of Commons to be at their post, to assist at the division upon this important question, in whatever form it may be pre ssnted to the House, if we did not feel that any en treaty upon such an occasion must be unnecessary, and that if it were possible to believe it necessary it would probably be unavailing. If there be a single Member of Parliament calling himself a Conservative whose own sense of the importance of the decision to be taken on Tuesday does not far outweigh anything that it would be possible for us to say upon the subject, such individual, if such there be, is far beyond the teach of any admonition, or remonstrance of ours.---11.1(»-ning Post. SECOND EDITION. SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock. PERIAL PARLIAINIENT, (THIS. EVENING.) HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour. LEITH AND NEWHAVEN RAILWAY. On the motion of the LORD ADVOCATE the Eck burgh, Leith, and Newhaven Railway Bill was read a se. cond time and ordered to be committed. Colonel RUSH BROOKE felt it his duty to offer an explanation relative to a statement made by the Hon. alei - nhe . i. for Finsbury en Wednesday evening, on the pre sentation of a petition by the Hon. Member for Berkshire, and complaining of oppressive conduct pursued by the Overseers of the Union of Stowmarket. The Honour able Member here read an extract from the speech of Mr. Wakley on the occasion referred to, and proceeded. These observations having been communicated to him when in the country, lie had seen the Clerk and some of the most active of the Guardians of Stowmarket, and he was able to give the most complete refutation to them. With re spect to the first case, the Guardians never knew of it, and never applied for such leave from the Commissioners ; and with respect to the second, they had never heard any com plaint of the humane and skilful gentlemen who held the appointment of surgeons to the Union. They also added that the aged and infirm had received an addition to their out-door allowance last winter. He was most happy to be able to refute such scandalous charges. Mr. WAKLEY said he had, on Wednesday last, at once given the name of his informant. He begged to say that he was not answerable for the misrepresentations of the proceedings of the House which went forth. He had not made the statements alluded to in the way they were re ported ; but there was considerable excitement in the House when he spoke. The first charge of the blind man being ill and being refused the attendance of his wife till an order arrived from the Commissioners did not apply to Stowmar ket Union but to Besemere Union ; the other charge re specting the Surgeon related to Stowmarket and they had been confounded together.—(cries of " Hear, hear.") The Hon. Member after reading the letter he had received stating the case, observed that the only difference between that written statement, and the one he had made to the House, was that the Guardians had told the unfortunate individual that he could not receive any assistance, instead of the relieving officer. Captain GORDON had made most anxious enquiries on the subject, and he was informed that no such case had occurred as that alluded to by the Hon. Member. Mr. WAKLEY was most willing to furnish the Hon. and Gallant Member with the name of his correspondent, and he thought, after that, he would not question the truth cf the statement. Mr. WILKS presented a petition from the Chairman, the Vice-Chairman,• and the Board of Guardians of Ket tering, complaining that under the Poor Law Bill the poor who were in workhouses were not allowed to attend divine worship, and praying that some measure might be adopted to enable them to do so. Mr. MANSELL concurred in the prayer of the peti tion, which was then laid on the table. CHURCH RATES. Mr. HODGES presented a petition from some parish in Kent, praying for the abolition of Church Rates ; also two petitions from the same county, in favour of the re moval of the Jewish Civil Disabilities. COLONIAL LANDS COMMITTEE. Mr. WARD brought up the Report of the Committee, which was ordered to be printed. NEWFOUNDLAND FISHERY. Mr. WALLACE presented a petition from the Mer chants and Traders of Greenock, complaining of the great difference in the amount of duty that was levied on Spanish vessels returning with fish from Newfoundland, and British vessels, stating unless some alteration was made in the existing reciprocity laws with Spain, the trade of this country was very much injured. The difference of the duty upon fish landed in Spain from Spanish vessels, was 2/. 13s. less than on British fish. They stated that they considered that they ought to be allowed to enter Spanish ports equally as free as Spanish vessels were allowed to enter the ports of New- foundland. He hoped that the President of the Board of shire (Mr. Walter) were general objections. It was true Trade would attend to the prayer of the petition. The that he laid particular stress on two or three clauses, but Hon. Member also presented a petition, most numerously he went almost, if possible, to annihilate the Bill.—(Loud and respectably signed, from Inverary, in Argyle, also re- cries of " Hear, hear.") He did not say that he specting fish, but fish caught on our shores.— (Mr. Walter) wished to put an end to the Bill, but (Hear, hear.) The allegation of the petition, was very his objections went quite as far—it was plain, from unusual ; it stated that the fishermen of Scotland, Ire- the objections the Honourable Member made, that lie land, and Holland, had found out the breeding places wanted to overset the whole Bill. He (Mr. Cripps) had of the herrings, and had resolved there to catch them, and been apprehensive that great difficulty would arise from that since the discovery was made the fishery generally one clause of the Bill, viz., that which prohibited totally throughout the west and north of Scotland had annually and entirely relief to able-bodied men. He did feel that decreased. They prayed the attention of the President of there would be great difficulty in the way in which this the Board of Trade and the Government, with a view to clause might be construed, and he did expect that it would protection being afforded. No trade was more entitled to in a great measure be construed in the way it had been. He I receive the protection of the Government than the herring believed that out of a population of 20,000 individuals not a fishery, which was fully of as much consequence as the single child had been sent to the Poor-house. In some cases salmon fishery--(Hear)—there being no less than 100,000 that had come before him the fathers and mothers were un vessels employed in that trade on the coasts of Scotland able to support their children, and he had asked whether they and the northern coast of Ireland. had any objection 'to send them to the workhouse ? The Mr. G. F. YOUNG had, three years ago, felt it his duty answer was, " none in the least ; we know the person who to call the attention of the Government to the Reciprocity manages your workhouse, and he is a most excellent man." Act ; and the conduct of the Spanish Government, which With regard to the statement that had been made that the pressed most severely upon British interests. The reply of children were kept upon bread and cheese and water, he the Government at that time was, that the political state believed the only complaint that had hitherto been made was of Spain was such as prevented the Act being strictly en- that they lived too well. In the parishes round London forced. He hoped the matter would be taken into consi- in which he (Mr. Cripps) had made inquiries, the answers deration by his Majesty's Ministers. he received went completely to contradict the assertions Captain PEC HELL in seconding the petition of the that had been put forth.—(Hear.) In the Union to which Hon. Member for Greenock hoped he would undertake a he belonged they had desired the medical officers to put down Bill for Scotland, similar to that which he (Capt. Peelle11) had brought in for the protection of the English fisheries. Mr. P. THOMPSON said that great efforts had been made with the young Queen of Spain to enter into an ar rangement which would be mutually advantageous to both countries. He was sorry to say that there did exist a jea lousy with part of the Spanish Government towards the British navigation, that Government hating only a small commercial marine. The petitioners complained that fish from Newfoundland paid more when carried in British than in Spanish ships, and they prayed that a duty might be imposed upon the fish. Now to use a vulgar expression, that would be " cutting off our nose to spite the face ;" for we could scarcely even now compete with the Spanish in their own market, and by im posing a duty upon the fish we would not only lose the car rying as at present, but we would also lose the sending of fish altogether. Mr. FIELDEN presented a number of petitions, but in so low a tone of voice as to be inaudible in the gallery. Mr. LUCAS presented a petition from the minister and parishioners of a parish in Cloync, complaining of the delapidated state of their church, the want of funds in the hands of the church commissioners to repair it, and pray- ing for some parliamentary enactment upon the subject. - The SPEAKER thought the petition could not be re ceived as it asked for a grant of money. Captain PEC HELL presented a petition from the East Preston Union in favour of the Poor Law Amendment Bill. on paper what relief to be given to paupers—that paper was given to the relieving officer, and every pauper was dieted accordingly. He had investigated into eases in many parishes, and he had never found a more contented people than he had then seen. If Gentlemen would but lend their aid instead of making objections, they would then most essentially serve their country. The Bill in his opinion, had operated wonderfully—it had relieved pa rishes that were under great difficulties before, and the good effected by It was most unquestionable. Parishes which before could not pay their poor-rates, were now enabled to pay about fifty per cent.—(Loud cheers.) He hoped that those gentlemen who had such erroneous notions on the subject would not persevere in their statements that the Bill would never have a good effect. Lord J. RUSSELL must say that he did not participate in the apprehensions of the Hon. Member (Mr. Crpips) that anything that fell from the Hon. Member for Berk shire would have a dangerous or mischievous effect, or would render this Bill unpopular in the country. There was a time when the measure of Poor-law Reform was thought a very strong measure, and when it required great boldness on the part of his Noble Friend (Earl Spencer) to maintain such a measure in that House, and to BRIGHTON MUSEUM. carry it into law. At that time there were (if he might call them so) great personal interests in favour of the abuses of the Poor Laws. In the first place, there were the able-bodied paupers, who liked subsistence without work much better than the wholesome wages of labour.—(Cries of " Hear.") There was also the nume rous class of shopkeepers, who founded their best market in the parish funds, and obtained very exorbitant prices. In the next place, there was a small portion, he must say, of the magistrates of England who endeavoured to obtain a false reputation for humanity—who represented themselves as exclusively the friends of the poor—(Renewed cheers) — and who promoted the old abuses of the Poor Laws. These were instigated and moved on by the efforts of a portion of the press—(Loud and continued cheers) — who lent themselves to the most mischievous ef orts to misrepresent and traduce those who wished to reform the Poor Laws, and to represent all their efforts as tending to the injury of the Poor.—(Loud cheers.) There were undoubtedly great obstacles in the way of reform, but there happened to be circumstances that tended very much in favour of the success of that reform. There was in the first place the circumstance that this was not m tde a party question,—(Loud cheers) —next the great portion of the magistracy of England, con vinced of the evil tendency of the existing laws, were willing to try an experiment of reform.—(Hear, hear.) With these circumstances in its favour, Lord Althorp was enabled to carry the Poor Law Bill.--(Hear.) Among the many abuses that Bill was intended to remedy there was none that was more striking or in jurious than the practice of defraying the expenses of labour out of the parish rates.l (LEFT SPEAKING.) Captain PECHELL presented a petition from the Patron and Council of the Scientific Institution, and Me dallion Museum, in the borough of Brighton, praying their petition might be referred to the Select Committee in the British Museum, in order that they might get duplicate copies of letters, &c. WINDOW TAX. The Marquis of CH ANDOS presented a petition from a clergyman (whose name we did not catch) residing in the county of Bucks, complaining of the heavy window tax he was compelled to pay. POOR LAWS. Mr. H. WILSON regretted he had not been present when the statement was made by the Hon. Member for Finsbury, relative to the Stowmarket Union, because he believed that no allegation of unkindness or harshness could be proved against that body. He held in his hand a statement, which had been drawn up at a special meet ing of the guardians, in which they contradicted the whole of the allegations that had been made. Colonel RUSHBROOKE begged to inform his Hon. Colleague (Mr. Wilson) that the Hon. Member for Fins bury had already given him the name of his informant. Mr. WAKLEY said that his informant had told him that be had no objection to his name being made use of, and that was the reason why be had furnished it to the Hon. and Gallant Member for Suffolk. STAFFORD DISFRANCHISEMENT BILL. The Marquis of CHANDOS moved that a Message be sent to the other House of Parliament, to request them to furnish this House with a copy of the evidence taken at their Lordships' bar on the Stafford Disfranchisement Bill. —Agreed to. RAIL-ROADS. Mr. I'. THOMSON, in bringing up the report of the Select Committee on Railways, said that he would propose that the resolutions of the Committee be printed ; and, if that were the opinion of the House, that they should be taken into consideration on Wednesday (August the 3d). He begged to give notice that to-morrow he should move that the House do sit on Wednesday at three o'clock, for the purpose of taking these resolutions into consideration. After a few words from the SPEAKER (as we under stood) relative to the inconvenience of sitting at that hour, the resolutions were ordered to be printed. POOR LAWS. On the Order of the Day for the House going into Com mittee on the Customs Duties Bill having been read, Mr. WALTER rose to present the petitions of which he had given notice from the Guardians of the Poor of Wallington, in Berkshire, and another place, praying that the power at present given to two Justices to give out-door relief in cases of adults should be extended to widows with small children. Mr. II Alt VEY presented a petition from the Guardians of the Poor of the parish of St. George the Martyr, Southwark, stating that they could not enforce the provisions of the Pcor Law Amendment Bill without violating their consciences. The country was much indebted to the Hon. Member for Berkshire, for having so perSeveringly pressed this subject upon the attention of the Hot, se. Mr WAKLEY presented three petitions from places in Carnarvon, Norfolk, and Suffolk, against certain clauseS in the Poor Laws Amendment Bill. On the Order of the Day being read, Mr. WALTER said he could assure the House that he regretted the necessity for his troubling the House, which he would not have done, had his petition from Petworth been received by the House in that sprit which its importance ought to have commanded ; but having then been denied an opportunity of stating his opinions, and being anxious for fair play, he felt hound to press the matter upon the attention of the House.—(Hear, hear.) He would, however, not abuse the indulgence of the House, and would confine himself to the complaint contained in the petition he had presented from the magistrates, guardians, &c., of Petworth, who were not averse to any change in the poor-laws, but they nevertheless objected to some of the provisions contained in the new law—especially to that provision, which put an end to the system of out door relief to aged and infirm paupers. The magistrates had declared it to be inexpedient to comply with the pro visions of the law as it related to wages. Well, then, as to the new Poor Law Act, to correct the evils of the old system it had been brought forward, and when it was attempted to be carried into effect, there was nothing to be heard of but remonstrance and complaint. The Hon. Member then proceeded to read several cases in which the operation of the Poor Law had been attended with great oppression, and particularly adverted to the case of a female who had been treated with the utmost severity. Why was this poor woman to be imprisoned, and indivi dual charity taxed to relieve her from oppression ? The guardians of the poor refused to carry the act into effect with all the severity that attached to it, and had resigned their situations. Lord Brougham had said in the House of Lords that no one had ever dreamt or imagined that the husband would be separated from the wife, or the child from the parent.—(Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Walter) would ask had no one ever dreamt of such a thing ? Would to God that that was not the case. Not only was it not. the case, but it had been carried into effect with fearful severity.—(Hear, hear, hear.) The Noble Lord, the Secretary for the Home Department, had stated that one of the rules that had been lately made was, that husband and wife should be separated.—( Hear.) The savings, if any, which might be effected by this Bill, would eventually find their way into the pockets of the landlords in the shape of increased rents. He understood also that this Bill was not to be applied to the whole of England—lie was informed that it had not been introduced into Lancashire, and that it was not in tended to be. Why was this? No one in the country but would have cursed the Reform Bill, could they have foreseen that one of its first fruits would have been a Bill for separating the children from parents, and the husband from the wife. He then read extracts from a number of letters he had received upon the subject. The Hon. Member then read several other c ommunications which he had received from Newbury, Dorsetshire, and other places, showing the neglect and cruelty that had taken place ; and concluded by moving a resolution, which was to the effect that the House would at an early period of the next session, inquire into the operation of the new Poor Law Act, especially that part which caused the separation of husband and wife, and parent and child. Mr. CRIPPS contended that this Bill had certainly had a moat beneficial effect ; and, in his opinion, the country at large were under the greatst obliga tions to the Noble Lord who had brought forward the measures. When he said that, he never dreamt that it would be a perfect or unalterable measure, or one unattended with difficulties. —(Hear, hear.) He would say, that no Bill of the importance that this was, ever found so many difficulties in the way of its operation. But the difficulties stated by the Hon. Member for Berk- HOUSE OF LORDS. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat at the usual hour. The Duke of WELLINGTON presented a petition signed by SOO persons, against the Bill for the Abolition of Imprisonment for Debt ; also a petition against the D:s senters Marriages Bill. Mr. BERNAL and others from the Commons brought up the Charitable Trustees Bill, the Court of Sessions (Scotland) Bill, the Foreigh Collieries Bill, and several other Bills ; a message was also brought requesting a copy of the evidence taken before the House of Lords on the Stafford (Borough) Disfranchisement Bill. Earl GREY presented a petition in favour of the See o Durham Bill. The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition from Portsmouth in favour of a railway from Portsmouth to Lon don ; also a petition from the clergy of the diocese of Meath against any further reduction in the amount of.the tithes to be paid to the Irish Clergy. Lord TEYNH AM presented a petition against the Poor Laws Amendment Bill, and gave notice that next session he should move for a Committee to investigate the working of the present system of Poor Laws. DUBLIN AND DROGHEDA RAILWAY. Lord FITZGERALD and VESCI moved the second reading of the Dublin and Drogheda Railway Bill. Lord TEMPLEM ORE would not object to the second reading of the Bill, but he would feel it his duty to object to the last clause but one of the Bill, which he conceived to be most objectionable in its principle. He begged to move the introduction of a clause, the purport of which was that the Shareholders should be prevented from pro ceeding with the works unless they had obtained the sanc tio❑ of Mr. Verner, through whose property the line passed, and also the sanction of the Admiralty. The Duke of LE INSTER objected to the introduction of such a clause. The Bill had received very general support in its present shape, and he would not consent to any clause the effect of which would be to suspend, at any time, the entire operation of the Company. Lord FITZGERALD and VESCI said there never was a Bill which had received so large a share of public support as the present, and it would, in his opinion, be of very great benefit to that part of the country. The line was 32 miles long, and, because it passed through one mile of Mr. Verncr's property, their Lordships were now called upon to sanction the introduction of a clause which would at any time arrest the progress of the works along the entire-line. He should most decidedly oppose it. The Marquis of WESTMEATH also opposed the clause. Lord TEMPLEMORE replied, and strangers were or dered to withdraw, but no division took place. The clause was then added to the Bill, after which the Bill was read a third time and passed. PAROCHIAL ASSESSMENT. The Duke of RICHMOND moved the third reading of the Parochial Assessment Bill. Lord DACRE moved an amendment to the first clause, the object of which we did not distinctly catch; The Duke of RICHMOND opposed the amendment. After a few words from Lord LIVERPOOL, the fur. ther consideration of the Bill was postponed till to-morrow. RAILWAYS. The Marquis of L A NSDO W NE, in moving than an ad dress be presented to his Majesty on Railways, wouldobserve that the subject was one of very great importance, not only to that country but to Ireland. The object of the present motion was that a Commission should be appointed, by whom some general report should be made upon the diffe rent lines of railway in Ireland to be submited to Parliament next session. It was most important that that report should be made by competent persons, and by the present proposition it was intended that his Ma jesty should authorize the Board of Works in Ire land to consider the various plans submitted to them, and thus a general survey by persons best qualified for that purpose would be made before the particular Railway came before their Lordships or the other House of Parlia ment, and made, he would add, by a competent and im partial Board.—(Hear, hear.) He regretted that such a plan had not been adopted with respect to England, as it would have tended much to lessen the enormous expense and protracted competition for road lines that had lately taken place. Ireland was as yet a virgin soil, untouched almost by such undertakings, and in making the present motion, he wished it to be distinctly understood, that how ever strong the recommendation of the Board might be, the assistance of the public would stop there. The Noble Mar quis then submitted his motion. The Duke of LEI NSTER expressed his gratitude to the Noble Marquis for having brought forward such a pro position. Lord FITZGERALD and VESCI cordially supported the motion, which was then agreed to. MARRIAGES (ENGLAND.) The House then went into Committee on the Marrilges (England) Bill. (LEFT SITTING.) HEALTH.—At the board of the Infirmary, in this town, on Monday, only one patient was then an inmate of the Institution, and this too, let it be observed, in a popu lation of 60,000 souls.—Stockport Advertiser. At the sale of the Corporation property of Co ventry, which took place last Tuesday, among other articles was an elegant four gallon China punch-bowl, given to the Corporation by Mr. Serjeant Hewitt, who once represented the City of Coventry in Parliament. It was purchased for eleven guineas. .. _: M URDER. 1 A coachman of the name of Frazer residing in Shaded street, has been com m itt e d f or t r i a l f or h a ving murdered ' his wife. It appears from the information which has been obtained concerning the alleged murder, that Frazer and his wife were often at strife with each other, on account of the latter, in particular, being much addicted to spirituous li quors. The noise of quarrelling and fighting, it is saial. was heard in their house on Saturday night, when some ei the neighbours went in and found Mrs. Frazer lying on the floor, complaining of having been severely beaten by her husband. A noise was again heard about one o'clock in the morning. About three o'clock, Frazer awakened a ' neighbourin , * family, and t o ld th em hi s w if e was dead, and that he had found her dying on the floor when he a woke- The husband denies all knowledge of the manner in whic h his wife came by her death, but the body underwent all examination yesterday, the result of which, we understand, tends to establish the fact that her death had been cause d by violent kicks or strokes with some blunt instrument o n the side. There is little appearance of injury externally+ but two of her ribs are broken, and there is a Wound on the liver which must have caused instant death. There were numerous livid marks on the face and on other pa ts of the body, and a deep gash on the right temple ; and there were also sever a l m ar ks of vi o le nce on th e nea• When the Captain of Police and the officers were searehins Frazer's house after the body was found, one of the children pointed out a rope which was secreted, and said it had been used by his father in attempting to strangle his mother. Captain Miller afterwards discovered, hidden under some straw, a cap saturated with blood, and other articles of dress also stained with blood, which, it is alleged, the dc' ceased had worn the day before. When these were found , it was evident that some one had been washing them, a s they were quite wet. The opinion of the two surgeons who examined the body of the deceased, after Frazer h 0 - alarmed the neighbours, to whom he said his wife. dying when he awoke, was that Mrs. Frazer, at tha' must have been some hours dead. A child of the p s says he saw his father, when abusing his mother, wk;ti a knife in his hand.—Jersey Argus. The Augsburg Gazette of the 24th inst. contain' the following, of the sth, from Constantinople:—" A courier from London has at length arrived at the British Embassy: i$ is not known whether he brings to Lord Ponsonby the instruc tions relative to Mr. Churchill's affair, which he was expectinr, ' so impatiently. The Noble Lord keeps profound silence, an d up to yesterday at noon, had not had any explanations with tho Porte. A sensible degree of moderation is remarked in big proceedings, and he has already broken through the retiremen t which he has for some time observed. He has recommence d direct relations with the Porte, and the interpreter of the Bri" tish Embassy has lately come there twice a day. The net Reis Effendi has not so much talent as his predecessor, but be is not subject to any foreign influence ; he is the mute execiP tor of his master's will, or of the subordinate functionaries at' tached to him. Lord Ponsonby appears to have gained the latter over to his side by all sorts of sacrifices. He has not► however, regained his former influence, because he is 11 ° : seconded in every department, and because the Sultan bag lately called to his council a man of much talent, who has is former times shown himself hostile to England. This person is the famous Hassan Eglein, formerly keeper of the Divan at Tripoli. He has free access to the Sultan, and is treated wit h particular distinction, although he is at present only the edit ° of the Afoniteur Ottoman." A Toulon letter, of the 23d inst., contains the fol' lowing :—" Admiral Hugon has sailed f rom T un i s , with th e Jena, - Sainti Petri, Montebello, Ville de Marseille and Scipioo, of the line, and Het ~wine frigate, and the Diligent sloop, i ll the track of Tahir Pacha, who having learnt that the bay was blockaded by a French squadron, which had orders to oppose the landing of any troops within the RegeneY' changed his plan rather than enter into a conflict with France. and went to Tripoli, where he was able to land the reinforce: merits for the Princes of Barbary in permanent hostility Wit' the French. Tahir Pacha is now at Tenedos, whither Ad' miral Hugon is about to proceed also. The Prince de Join' yule will arrive at Toulon on the 4th of next month, and coy bark in the Iphigenie frigate, which will sail on the 6th for the Levant," MADRID, JULY 20.—Ministers reckon already twenty-three provinces in which their candidates or moderato men have been returned. They calculate that they hal ° already a majority of forty out of the elections hitherto ;ascer tained. Cadiz has selected MM. Isturiz, Galiano, Mendizab" and Badillo ; another ballot will be necessary for MM. P °- mecq and Mantes de Oca, the two remaining candidates. A is not doubted that M. Martinez de la Rosa will be return , '" at Grenada. These Ministerial advantages are, however, to! certain degree counterbalanced by the unfavourable disP° sl. tions of Malaga, which, in spite of Count Dunadio's effortsi will certainly return exaltados, and those of Albacete l e Saragossa, where the elections will be mixed, as will he the case in Estremadura. The elections of Barcelona will a ° commence before the sth of August. By the Toronto Albion we learn that the son ' 4 Sir A. B. King, of Dublin, has been drowned in UPP e i Canada. The deceased was seen running down the vrhe r and plunging into the water with his clothes on. Only tel minutes elapsed before he was got out. The act was alleg e d to have been perpetrated in a fit of despondency on hears* of the death of his mother. It will be recollected that the father of the deceased was Lord Mayor of Dublin at the of his late Majesty's visit in 1821, in commemoration of alli c event lie was created a Baronet. ANECDOTE OF HAYDN.—Haydn, on his fir st visit to this metropolis, domiciled at the house of Bland, Pi: music-publisher in High Holborn, who used to relate the '„, lowing story :—" When I went over to the Continent , secure the services of Hadyn at the concerts of Salomon , was introduced to him while he was in the act of shaving 11.1 1: self, an operation by no means the pleasa n test in the war l dn even when one has good tools ; but it happened that IlaY e was badly off in that respect, and feeling the inconvenic e deeply, said, Ah, Mr. Bland, if I had but an English razor: , would give one of the best compositions I ever wrote for, it i ; I immediately, without waiting to reply, posted off to ray 10 0 : and brought my best pair. Presenting them to the great 0 11 .' 1 , he put into my hands one of his quartetts in manuscript, Wh ic „ I afterwards published, and used to term it my Razor Qu a ' tqt."—The Musical World. 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