The Sun. — London, England, 1836-01-30 00:00:00

VERY SECRET DISPATCH of COUNT POZZO DI BORGO. - (From the Portfolio, Nos. VIII. and IX.) ENGLAND. The Imperial Cabinet is so worthily represented at Lon don, that I am compelled in some sort to do violence to myself in speaking of a country of which Prince Lieven knows so well the dispositions, and, unfortunately, the passions and jealousy towards Russia, and of which he gives so exact and judicious an account as often as the good or necessity of the service demands it. It is more then to avoid leaving a gap so essential as that which would exist in this report, if I were to pass over this empire in entire silence, than with the hope of adding in any way to the ideas which the Imperial Cabi net receive more directly and completely from the Embassy at London. At the commencement of the war, the Government, and More particularly the English public, sa w i n th e resu l t o f idea the campaign the overthrow of the Ott oman E mp i re. Th e of Russian supremacy and dominion established on the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles, that of fleets issuing from the Black Sea, the possibility, although distant, of their coalition and union with the French navy, and all these combinations together, roused their feelings and pro duced a resentment so much the more violent, that Eng land did not feel herself to be in a position to oppose us, without exciting a general war, in which she had only sa crifices to make, rendered very painful to her by the ne cessity of adding to the weight of her debt, without the least hope of increasing her power or her riches. The events of the campaign have delivered the British Government and nation from the fears they had entertained, and I have reason to believe that they now congratulate themselves upon finding in the Turks that resistance, which they would have been unable, without great embarrass ments, to present to us themselves. From the moment that the idea of the ruin of the Turkish empire ceases to prevail, it is not probable that they would risk a general war, for the sake of exempting the Sultan from acceding to such or such condition ; above all, in the state in which t hings will beai the commencement o f th e approac hi ng campaign, when eveiything will be as yet uncertain and undecided. These considerations would authorise the belief that we have no cause to fear an open rupture on the part of Great Britain ; and that she will content herself with counsellin g the Port e t o b e g pe ace , an d w i t h l en di ng t h e aid o f the good offices in her power during the negotiation, if it take place, without going further, should the Sultan refuse, or we persist in undertaking a second campaign. The Duke of Wellington has need of, and desires to Preserve peace. Th,s mercantile interest cannot be opposed t 9 it, because the inter:uption of the commerce with Rus sia, consisting as it does for the most part in raw mate rials, would be as injurious to it• as to ourselves. He can f aPProve of the armaments of Austc.;a, and yet dissuade her .r° l ll3. using the m , b ecause a ll E urop e would b e th ere b y called to arms. The manner in which the question of the blockade of the Dardanelles has terminated, likewise proves that there exists in the English Cabinet a great tendency towards Peace. Th e pu b lic of this country never showed more pre indiee and j ea l ousy than on this occasion. The Duke alo t o t withstanding hi s fi rs t s t e p, a pp ears t o h ave re sided the Or rent. The tumult appears now to have sub sided, an d tilt.. matter reduced to the natural state and Aneoreirelleqbuealcicnyg_fls ears to me, in the f to it. symptom apP . re Lisa ] yrin ce in reality of th e Britioli Cabinet to adopt the proposal of Metternich, to ini`erpose collectively to exhort, but to constrain, his Majesty the Emperor to make Peac e. The inconvenience anted danger (!) of this measure must have been felt at London, since all ex they abstained from planation on the subject with France. !ne t w ill con c l u d e these short observat i ons b y repeat i ng, I submit them entirely to those Prince Lieven will sQuail;e transmitted to the Imperial Cabinet on this important s e jeet ; for my arguments cannot be compared with his izlnerienee, and with the impression which he receives, and rile on he gathers from the company and conversation o e n on whom depend the decision of so grave a question. , A AUSTRIA. ustria is the Power from which Russia had the least Ea to expect the conduct she has experienced. Re t.,,ated in some sort on his throne by the successes of the th"'Peror Alexander, and the efforts of the Russian army, 4Th e E mperor Francis drew immense advantages from the eignanimity of his greatest ally. Italy was altogether :faeclv,ered over to him, either . by real acquisitions, or by the • 40, Y which was left him of exercising an . unlimited lati ue d nce over that which had . not . been subjected to his °ll-1 ,, 14i ". He augmented his frontier on the side , of Ger -14-..,, according to his pleasure, and obtained even some hrehtrocessions and advantages in Poland, which were only r" i ;: generosity on the part of its Liberator. b. Since th e Congress, deference and good offices have x y'en unbou n ded, an d w h en t h e revo l u ti onary movement i n i' L 4 Ples appeared to threaten the Austrian supremacy in all t h e country from the Alps to Sicily, it was again the Em peror Alexander who dispelled this storm, by his wise and generous intervention. Th e Court of Vienna obtained by this result the security of he r actual possessions, of her influence over the rest, and a n opportunity of , extracting from th e ki ng d om o f Napl es 26 0 ,000, 000 of francs (8,000000/. price o f h av i ng d e li vered it from the Carbo sterling), as the nari. The Greek insurrection broke out. Prince . Metternich determin e d on repiocing the glaive of the Sultan over this unfortunate people. Durin g four years he paralyzed and thwarted th e most noble sentiments, without regard either t o the delicate position of Russia or to her interests, con stantly abu s i ng t h e confidence which was pl a ced i n him, and snakin g promises only to break them. At length the moment arrives when Russia, France, and ttiagilland co me to an understanding, is order to put a stop ano.e massacre s w hi c h were incessant: repeated in this every arena. Austria y refuses t o a dh ere , and uses ree Sultry means, in spite of diff erent protestat i ons, to i n d uce m an to reject th e com bi nation which was proposed to with the view of preserving the empire, and shielding it r°4l greater dangers."' This fatal tactic has endured two years. It has been rt e mi . aced b y t h e Representatives of the Powers, who have n its acti on on the spot, in a thousand ways. At length ,Z, Sulta n f orces the Ambassadors of the three Courts to eill Con stantinople. He insults, he provokes Russia. He iT..ea the treaties. The Emperor is under the necessity Is r r i i n n ging him to reason by arms. treats icte Metternich is indignant at this resolution, and ever as a revolt against his supremacy. From that time dr ess y me ans are put in motion to injure Russia. He ad a.aLes nimself to England, with the view of arming her Phase th e Emperor —and he repeats his attempts at every th at all "well events present to him—he accredits the idea bee all the Governments are exposed to internal revolution, treaties Russia would compel the Sultan to observe her tamperses and he succeeds in intimidating many of them. He taise _ with the French Ministry, and is resisted—and he on e uP internal broils because of that resistance. On the t o he flatters the Bonapartists, and encourages them other he the memory of the son of Napoleon. On the ther,r he appropriates to himself the Gazette de France and 4nesTirotid.i.ertne, pretended representatives of pure Royalism uesuitisrn, and these papers, soi-disant Christian, be 4, :usk, overwhelm th e p u bli c w i t h a d e l uge o f i nsu l ts 00:1:usehoods against us. Th ese trut h s , C ount, escape no rep em e . r e - -the F renc h Mi n i stry i s conv i nced of them—it Th s and confirms them to me constantly. e i Duke de Mortemart, in passing through Vienna, 1)4 4 I° 4' conference with the Austrian Minister. The !rhi e V 4 av e me an account of it in the following terms, Ira qi "' 1. 0 guard against errors or forgetfulness, I committed h.diatejs, to paper. pres-tr.inee Metternich asked of M. de Mortemart what it-n -its „ 8 ' he had brought away of the Russian army and of hig l l e ",` lr als. M. do hlorternarte replied, that he had the it s 4‘ Opinion of the aussian army, and that the talents of t a , ta. eers varied as in oth(n• countries, and in every nume loss 4411 Y. The Prince added, " what do you think of the ittnaehs_th.at the army has sustained ?" The Duke replied, that the infantry it was nothing extraordinary, that the ea- LLl'L'aYmn,and lost many horses, but that the whole, amountin r ,s-to bi,aire,d,ute fraction.. ofthe forces of the empire, could easily be stu ssi _ . in no way affected the military strength of y_Cvrince Metternich, with a smile of pity, continued, hay ch, you allow yourselves to be dazzled ; trust to 'e e ßussians f three aad r „, observed and known the or so :,"ears. Their force is mere show, and it is more i llita s e tis moment than ever. As to their losses, they are and 1 1 . se; they will neither be easily nor speedily repaired ; the ultr ,eannot exp l a i n to myself how you have judged of Y." The D u k e , i n hi s turn, sa id , t h at Nevel. erentl 'me w as at liberty to estimate the forces of the for .: em p i re accordin g as h e th oug h t proper ; b ut as vra: loss es caused to t h e army b y the campaign, ti ?Rl_ refe r to the reports of the Prince of Hesse, of4.L.nad been s h own to him, and which agreed with those th...,` (le Mortemart himself, adding upon this subject, t _t,he Pri nce was too honourable a man to have trans irotherstleti of a different nature. The Prince appeared ib*,:sed b y th i s observation —afterwards he replied, ne rd ; every one w ill j udge of them in his own man ettle,onasleantime Austri a thi n k s herself forced to take pre ; her army is ready an d numerous, and if a second Powild?lgn commences, it will t a k e post on the frontier, and I,iserve Servia." Th e D u k e replied to this last me naCe " In th at case every one will be justified in advancing rns frontit r to observe his neighbour ; It en arrivera ce ‘ , 4 , 11 Pols rr " ri..atiOn.a. Thus fini s h e d thi s essential part of this con a•ee_ Ile Prince did not appear satisfied with the thninents and dispositions of the Duke de Mortemart, and s t ec gi at lt ed itw. thy with the customary form s o f politeness. I duty, M. le Comte, is inform you of .7 17;le,: partici-s;' becaus e th ey h ave appeared to si sa further proofs of the indefatigabio pains which Prince Metternich takes to raise up enemies against us, or to di• minish the interests which our friends bear towards us. The plan of the Chancellor of the Court and State is vast. He would show himself in a menacing attitude by his armaments ; he agitates France to enfeeble her ; he encourages England to make her our enemy ; he seeks to seduce Prussia, and to alienate her from us ; he proposes to the King of Sardinia, according to the conviction of the French Ministry, to give another heir to the throne than the Prince de Carignan ; in fine, he assumes the character of protector of public order , and whilst he employs all his energies in favour of the Turks, he enlists under his banners the ultra-monarchists and the ultra-Papists of every country. This conception is too vague, in my opinion, to take a solid consistence, especially in the interval between the pre sent moment and the next campaign. When it will com mence, Prince Metternich will only have at his disposal himself and the Austrian monarchy, if he is always master of it, as appearances would seem to indicate. The question will then be reduced to this, will he or will lie not dare to attack Russia ? These sort of problems can never be solved in an absolute manner ; because the premises, according to the nature of things, can only be founded on conjectures. However, as there exists no other rule, it must be referred to that. It is not in foreign combinations, M. le Comte, that I will seek this rule, but in the measures and internal re sources of the empire. The Emperor, our august master, ascended the Throne at a time when Russia enjoyed great consideration, and this consideration is visibly augmented since his fortunate accession. The blackest and most dan gerous conspiracy arrested by his courage, and punished according to justice, tempered by clemency and humanity. The Turks brought to sign the Convention of Akermann. Persia vanquished, and rendered tributary in consequence of her provocations. England and France anxious to find a means of termination (to the satisfaction of his Majesty) to the troubles in Greece—Prince Metternich having no other resource than malice and intrigue, and Prussia strengthening the ties of blood by those of policy. It is in this situation of affairs and ideas, in the face of the whole world, that the Emperor has been forced to enter into the present war. Nearly all the powers have recog nised the justice of it, and there is not one which has not been prepared for its successes. It was the Russian Em pire, after two years of observation and preparation, which put itself in motion against the Turkish empire, reduced to the Mussulman pupulution of Europe. At this sight the world had formed its judgment beforehand, but it must be admitted, that this judgment had not been verified by the event. This circumstance has disclosed the sentiments that each bore to us. The explosion took place at Vienna, and com municated itself more or less on every side. Those, how ever, who judge calmly, see the want of success in secon dary causes, and think they will not occur in the approach ing campaign. Thence the desire of avoiding it, and of preserving peace, if the Porte were sufficiently wise to de mand it, and Russia sufficiently discouraged to grant it upon conditions beneath her dignity. Under these circumstances, before demanding what Prince Metternich will do, it appears to me more reas ona bl e t o de- mand what we ourselves will do, and under what aspect we shall appear to his eyes. If he sees us profitinc , by expe rience, augmenting our means, introducin g i n t o them a de sirable order, putting ourselves in a position not to dread his attacks, persuading him that if he were to have us for enemies, he would find us formidable, inexorable, and de termined to pour out upon Austria all the calamities of war, which she stirs up against us, without sparing her one. Then will Prince Metternich, probably, pause in his policy, and adopt, perhaps, a better one, in counselling the Sultan to make peace, and to submit to the sacrifices which it must impose upon him. It is not the wish of the Chancellor of the Court and State, nor that of the Austrian public, which we have to guess at ; it has shown itself sufficiently hostile to relieve us from all doubts in that respect. When they rejoice that the plague mows down the Russian army ; when, - in their eyes, there are never scourges enough in nature, nor suffi cient means of injury in the enemy, to satisfy their hatred, we are dispensed from interpreting the sentiments of those who do not fear to profess them, and to manifest them with- out reserve. The best guarantee that we can have for arresting them, and combating their influence, is ourselves ; —it is in our energy, in the force, the direction, and the correction of our resolutions and our measures, that we have to seek our security. The patriotism, the position, and the resources of the Empire, are equal to all. Let them be evoked ; let them be exerted with order and capa city,—and the policy of Europe will cease to offer problems for our solution ; should that of our enemies become as tractable then as it now is haughty, because it indulges in magnifying our losses, underrating our talents, and dis- crediting our means. If we show ourselves such as we ought to be, and can be, the Government, and the strongest party in France will court us ; because they must provide for their interests, and enter into the lists, if Austria and England throw open the barriers—Prussia has her role already cast, and the objects of her ambition under her hand ; and it is not Russia that will suffer from her encroachments ; she will remain free to accomplish her own, if her interests re- quire it. Without doubt, it would be painful to see the shalt quo of Europe thus disturbed ; but to whom attribute the fault and responsibility of it, if not to the Austrian Cabinet, who would risk all, and overturn all, sooner than see the Emperor make a peace which would have for its first ob ject his honour ; and, for its second, some modifications incapable of bringing the least change to the real equilibrium established by the Congress of Vienna. It results from the preceding observations, that the question of the future conduct of Austria, cannot be exa mined in an abstract manner, and independent of that which Russia will hold, and of the display of force which she will present at the opening of the campaign. This cam paign has become indispensable, in my opinion, because the first has nut produced its effect. We will undertake it then with the chances that it offers to us—and these chances win be less dangerous in proportion as our efforts will be great and terrible. THE UNSTAMPED PRESS. It having been generally known that on Saturday last Mr. R.:Cruttwell, distributor of stamps for the county of Somerset, had laid informations against John Coyswell and Robert Croker, two vendors of unstamped publications, and that the case would come on for hearing this morning at the Guildhall, an immense crowd assembled, and the greatest excitement prevailed. At eleven o'clock, when the Magistrates arrived, there was a general shout of " Open Court for the Unstamped," which continued for a long time within the Court, and was backed by the multi tude without. At length the Mayor, W. T. Blair, Esq., came into the Court, and stated that he had received a letter from Mr. Croker, one of the persons against whom an information had been laid, requesting that the case might be heard i❑ open Court. His Worship said the Ma gistrates had taken that letter into their consideration, and had come to the decision that they could not in this case deviate from their usual practice of having it in the Mayor's room, but that it should be open to as many as it could accommodate; This announcement was deemed satisfac tory, and the case of John Coyswell was then proceeded with before T. Cam Clarke, and J. Phillott, Esqrs. The prosecution was conducted by Mr. T. Cruttwell, jun., and the defence by Mr. R. H. Hellings. John Doel was the first witness called, who stated that he lived at Perrymead, in Bath. On the 10th of Januar) , he purchased at the shop of John Covswell, in Chandos buildings, four copies of cleave'B IVeekly Police Gazette ; a female served him, whom he asked for her address, in case he should want more. She replied that she would ask her husband, and immediately went fur that purpose to another room on the same floor. He heard a man tell her to give him one of his shop-bills, which he now produced. On Saturday last, the 23d, witness went again to the same shop, and purchased four more copies of the same paper. At that time he was served by the same female, whom he thought was the wife of Coyswell. At that time no con versation took place. I❑ his cross-examination by Mr. Hellings, Doel said he was a wheel-wright, in the employ of Messrs. Farmer, car riers. Mr. Cruttwell gave him the money to pay for the papers. He was not paid for his loss of time, as his master allowed him to go of errands for Mr. Cruttwell. Did not know Coyswell—had never seen him till now ; nor did he know Mrs. Coyswell, but he presumed the woman who served him was her. This being the case for the prosecution, Mr. Hellings contended that Mr. Cruttwell, in whose name the informa tion was laid, was not that description of officer connected with the Stamp Office which the 22d section of the 60th Gee. 3, cap. 9, required. He was merely a distributor of stamps, and there was no proof of his holding such an office as gave him the power of instituting this prosecution. Mr, Phi Nett, after consulting with the other justices, overruled 141 r. Hellings's objection. Mr. Hellings then baiti he would take down the words in which that decision of the Magistrates had been con veyed---" that there was no necessity of proving that Mr. Cruttwell was an (*Ricer of the Stamp Office, and that the iidormation was laid in conformity with the Act of Par liameot," The Justices th#n Onsnhed together, and said they did not consider the case to hPre2 been proved, !I nd the de fendant Was acanitted — an announcement winch was re ceived by the evL4,44 jR 1, .1 44 41.9110 the ball With deafening shouts of approbation. Robert Croker was then called ; but previously to going on with g ig evidence in this case, Mr. Helli ngs said he should u rge the same filaieptm to Mr. Cruttw e ll' s qualifi cation to institute this prosecution as be had c i Qpn i n the other, upon which that gentleman produced his certificate of appointment from the Stamp Officc, which by the Ma gistrates was held to be satisfactory. John Doel was then called ; he stated that he purchased the paper produced, Cleave's Wee/l/ Police Gazette, on the 16th of January, at the shop of Croker, No. 16, Upper Borough Walls ; he was served by a man named George Turner ; Croker was in the shop at the time ; he paid Turner for it, who thanked him, and said he should be glad to see him again. George Turner examined—l am not in the employ of Mr. Croker ; I am with him ; I have some times sold papers for him, but not constantly ; I do not recollect see ing Doel on the 16th instant, on the Borough Walls ; I might have been there when he bought a paper ; I recollect the conversation he has mentioned, but it took place in Prince's-street ; Mr. Croker was present at the time, sit ting on the sofa. Doel was again examined, and persisted that he pur chased the paper in question on the 16th instant, at the shop on the Borough Walls, and that Turner and Croker were both present. The witness next deposed to having purchased four other similar papers at Croker's shop on Saturday last the 23d instant. The case for the prosecu tion having closed, Mr. Hellincrs contended that this information was unte nable, inasmuch ' as no evidence had been adduced to show that the documents before the Court were liable to a stamp-duty of fourpence as newspapers. It was so alleged in the information, but they had no proof of the fact. He then commented upon the disparity between the evidence of Doel and Turner, both witnesses-for the prosecution, and contended that Doel's evidence was not worthy of credit. If.,they referred to the several convictions that had taken place under this statute, they would find numerous instances in which proof of the liability of the papers in question to the payment of the stamp duty had been held to be necessary. In this case they had not one tittle of evidence of that nature before them, but the papers themselves. Were they as Magistrates to witness a case of assault in the streets, and were the parties subsequently to come before them to have the matter settled, he was sure neither of them would in his official capacity, and in the absence of any other witness, give evidence on the case, but dismiss it at once for want of evidence. Mr. Clarke said his brother magistrates and himself had given Mr. Hellings's objection their best consideration, and they certainly did not think any proof of the liability of the publications in question to the payment of the stamp duty necessary, as it was evident, from every paragraph, anl every column, that they were decidedly newspapers, and came within the meaning of the Act. They were of opinion that both informations had been clearly substan tiated, by which the defendant had rendered himself liable to the payment of two separate penalties of 201. A s thi s , however, was Croker's first conviction, they would mitigate the penalties to the lowest amount payable, namely, to .5/. on each, and in default of payment, the defendant must be committed to prison for two months on each conviction. They had dealt leniently with him, in the hope that he would desist from violating the law in future. Croker then exclaimed emphatically " I declare solemnly that I will never refrain from circulating political know ledge to the last day of my existence." He was then re moved in custody. We understand that he is not placed in the felons' ward, but among the debtors. At the conclusion of the business the multitude became highly incensed, and called most strenuously forihe-infor mer Doel, who would no doubt have fallen a victim to their rage, but for the earnest - entreaty of Croker, who addressed those assembled in the Hall, begging them to commit no outrage upon him, as he was an unlettered man, and totally ignorant of the purpose for which he was sent to purchase the papers. As it was, Doel was escorted from the Hall by four or five officers, who had great difficulty in protecting him. When will Government do its duty, and prevent a recurrence of such disgraceful proceedings? Bath, Monday, Jan. 25. 11 1 b, THE SUN, _LONDON, SATURDAY, JANUARY 30, 1836. SOME REASONS FOR ABOLISHING THE NEWSPAPER STAMP-TAX. (From the Spectator) The surplus of' income over expenditure, for the year ending in last October, was upwards of a million and a half ; the revenue accounts for the quarter which terminated on the sth instant, showed a considerable increase of receipts over the corresponding quarter of last year ; and as it is universally admitted that the state and prospects of the country are flourishing and favourable, there is no reason to apprehend that the surplus at the disposal of the Chancellor of the Exchequer will be less during this year than the last ; especially as scarcely any thing was done in the session of 1835 towards reducing the taxation of the country, the operation of which should be anticipated on the current year's income. From this it would appear, that the necessity of upholding public credit is not likely to stand in the way of a diminu tion of taxes ; so that Mr. Spring Rice's excuse for oppos ing the repeal of the Newspaper Stamp-duty will not serve again. The result has proved that last year the reduction might have been made with perfect safety. Independently, however, of the question of revenue, there is a good prospect of getting r►d of the Newspaper tax. It is quite impossible that the abortive efforts now making to stop the circulation of unstamped newspapers can be continued much longer. In all other applications of capital and skill, it is held that the regular tax-paying pro ducer is entitled to the protection of Government ; it is considered grossly unjust to permit the smuggler to compete with him in the same market. Yet this is what is done to a great extent as respects newspapers, in spite of the efforts of the police to suppress the illicit trade. It cannot now be pretended that the extensive circulation of unstamped papers is connived at by the Government. Considerable exertion has been made to sut a stop to it, and no slight portion of public odium has been incurred in the attempt ; which, however, after all, has failed completely. Thus it seems, that it is out of the power of the Executive to give that protection to the persons concerned in Stamped News papers which they unquestionably ought to have. There is but one mode of doing justice to all parties ; abolish the tax. Nobody would be injured by it ; for even those journalists who des►re to retain the stamp, profess their belief that their own circulation would be increased by the greater cheapness of their papers : in this instance, then, there can be no claim for compensation for injury to vested interests. We are aware that some of these gentlemen would oppose the abolition of the duty out of a tender re gard to the public morals ; and some from grand notions of the dignity of journplism. But Ministers have little occa sion to take any notice of their fine scruples. The Timts, the Herald, the Post, and the Standard, are all in opposi tion, and would not be won over to the Government side, the Whigs being in office, by a refusal to abolish the News paper-tax. The l llorning Chronicle, the Courier, and the Globe, may grumble a little ; but there is no fear of the hos tility of any one of the three. Most of the weekly news papers, and the Morning Advertiser, 7%e Sun, and the True Sun, are, we believe, for the removal of the tax Thus another reason, which doubtless had its weight in those days when Lord Althorp held conferences with Lord Brougham on the subject of " conciliating the Times, or declaring war against ►t," can no longer be urged against a measure which would confer extensive popularity on the Minister who carried it. It will be said by some, that the agriculturists have a claim on the surplus for the remission of taxes which press peculiarly and unfairly upon -them : but with the corn-duty at 50s. Bd. a quarter, we think that, in common decency, the agriculturists might be quiet on the subject of taxation. Let them come before the public with clean hands—let them abandon their gigantic monopoly of the bread-trade, before they put in claims for especial consideration in the reduction of taxes. The advocates for the diminution of the duties on glass, or other heavily-taxed articles of general use, have a better case than the agriculturists ; but, when the increase in the consumption of paper, and the produce, perhaps, of a light postage-charge are taken into account, the loss to the revenue arising from the abolition of the Newspaper-stamp will be too small to interfere with the more extensive claims which we have alluded to, even supposing (what is by no means probable) that a very material reduction in the tax on such articles as glass would occasion any deficit in the revenue. Mr. Spring Rice, then, will probably consent to the abo• lition of the Newspaper-duty ; for these reasons— _ . The public revenue is in a flourishing state, and the amount of the deduction proposed is small. The impossibility of preventing the circulation of un- stamped Newspapers, to the grievous wrong of those who buy stamps, is daily becoming more manifest. The odium occasioned by the efforts to enforce the law is too serious to be disregarded by any Government. The popularity out of doors, and the support in the House of Commons, which would be obtained by abo lishing the tax, are both exceedingly desirable at the present time. The parties who would most strongly object to the abo lition are those whose hostility to Ministers is invete rate, and who would not in the least mitigate their abuse, or desist from their opposition, in consequence of any attempt to conciliate them in this m a tter ; or they are those whom Ministers know how to quiet. The following table shows the amount of the mili tary pensions in France at several different periods, toge ther with the number of the pensioners. The cause of the reduction, it may be remarked, is the death of the pen ;;leners :-,-_, e4rs : Pensioners, Amount, 1 5 1 7 ...,,,.•, 168,000 ~..,,.,,.,• 69,000,000 f. jaw) „„,..„„, 150,000 1b323 ,r , ,,,... 143,000 ~,.,,.,,.•• 49,000,000 ltiti ... , ...... , 147,000 . . . 1829 ........... . 141,000 ~ „ 51,000,000 1832 ....Gglignani's Messenger, BIRMINGHAM DINNER. [UR. O'CONNELL ' S SPEECH CONCLUDED FROM YESTERDAY'S PAPER.] There is Belfast, with a populati on o f 53 , 2 17, h as only 13 i 2,665 corporators ; whilst corporators ; Dundalk, with a popul a ti on o f- 10,750, and 40 corporators ; Armagh, 9,470, and on l y 16 coporators ; 100,716 inhabitants, Dublin there are 3 a 6 n 4 d ,0 onl3. an d only Crk :3,600 corporators. But these details are necessarily wea risome —(Cries of " No, no !")—and I shall only trouble you with the general views—that the population of corpo rate towns is 910,393, including the freemen, who are 13,005 ; ,the governing bodies amount to 1,161, while only 251 participate in the Municipal Government.—(Hear, hear, hear.) As for the Corporation of Dublin, with respect to their expenditure, I find that they have been spending at the rate of 30,000/. per annum ; their income amounting to only 28,000/. ; thus spending 2,000/. per annum more than their income, without conferring one pennyworth of advantage upon the citizens. Well, then, I ask you, was there so strong a case made out for England ?—(Hear.) There was for Scotland—but certainly not one half so good for England. Of what use are the freemen in Ireland ? They have two privileges—they are free from tolls and have an opportunity of selling their votes at elections. At the last election for the city of Dublin, neither I, nor my friends, would give one of these fellows anything ; when one of themselves was found to jump upon the Commission table and swear that my Counsel gave him 51.—he was cross examined a little, and the poor fellow broke down so com pletely that he admitted; it was all a lie.---( Hear, hear.) He was tried for perjury, and is now under sentence for it. The certificate of every freeman used to be marked with three pin holes, awl he would then take it to William street where he received 3/. for his vote. I ask you, then, are we not entitled to Municipal Reform as well as England and Scotland ?—(Hear, hear.) Arc we not entitled to the sympathy and support of every honest man ?—(Cheers.) We stood by you in the struggle for reform—we stood by you when you sought an extension of the franchise, and we are ready to stand by you again, in every contest in which you may be engaged for the acquirement or the sup port of liberty. No Englishman can be more anxious than I am for the amelioration of the institutions of this coun try.--(Hear, hear.) I want a union, not of Parliament— not a mere Act of Parliament—but I want a union of in terest and of feeling ; and am lito be told, that whilst you are free in England, in Ireland, on the ground of religion, that great national injustice of which I have spoken is to be perpetrated with impunity ? No matter what may be the religious feelings of any man, he cannot be induced by Act of Parliament to give them up—whilst upon the other hand, it ought not to be made a ground for his exclusion from any civil office. But, indeed, upon reference to the re port of the Commissioners, I find that whilst Roman Ca tholics were for a considerable period eligible to be elected, they were invariably rejected ; and this principle of exclu sion was not confined to them, but extended to Protestants of liberal and enlightened principles. In Dublin there is a population of 300,000, and two Sheriffs are chosen or nominated by the Corporation, who empanel Juries for the trial of cases involving the lives, properties, and liberties of these 300,000 citizens. So strong is the conviction of the partiality of these nominees of the Corporation, that many a client of my own has frequently preferred refusing to go to trial rather than trust his property or his liberty to the de cision of a Jury of their nomination.—(Hear, hear.) lam trespassing, I fear, on your indulgence—(No, no)—and yet, in appealing to the honesty and good sense of an assembly of Englishmen, I should not have any apprehension of wearying their patience. We stood by you in every con test —we are ready to do so again.—(Cheers.) When, I ask you, was the meteor-flag of England borne into scenes of battle, death, and slaughter—when has the shout of victory ever risen from British decks—(it has done so for a thousand years, and will do so for a thousand years more)—that the commingling stream of blood that has floated you to victory, has not flowed equally from Irish as from English veins ?—(Cheers.) We want to be your brothers, and not either your enemies or your slaves ; and I ask is it fit that you should have all the spoils of victory— we nothing but the blows ?—(Hear.) Oh, forbid it, Eng lish justice—forbid it, English interests ! There are many things to be done for you yet. The English Corporation Re form Bill requires to be amended—the franchise to be ex tended ; and we are ready to assist you in the accomplish ment of both. The voters throughout the country require to be protected by the Ballot, and here we are to aid you in obtaini ng it.—(Cheers.) Let us th en rally together— England, Scotland, and Ireland—lreland, Scotland, and England. lam an apostle of that new sect of political religion who are impressed with the deep conviction that, in effecting the amelioration of the institutions of the country, there is nothing destructive of property—nothing tending in the remotest degree to the shedding of one drop of human blood.—(Cheers.) We want no revolution in the social state, or in the affairs of private families, except so far as improvement may effect such revolution in the affairs of the public plunderer. We require improvement —we require the movement forward. If asked when I propose to stop, I ask, in return, when do you mean to stop in improving your manufactures, arts and sciences, for facilitating your commerce, and by which your nation has been raised up to the station she now enjoys amongst the Powers of the world ? The moment you cease to improve the machinery of your manufactures, that moment would I cease to improve the machinery of the State : that moment would I cease to insist that there should be no taxes for which services were not performed—that no Lord Ellenborough should pocket 11,000/. a year of the public money, merely because he is called Filacer of the King's Bench, or some other equally ridiculous name. So long as abuses of such a description exist, so long shall I be disposed to look for improvement. We are willing enough to wait for some time until it be granted, but we shall have no stop-gaps—no Wellington and Peel coming in to stop the progress of improvement.—(Loud cheers,) Oh., Peel is the son of a manufacturer himself ; he understands the principle of the "spinning jenny ;" and shall lie come forward to say there shall be no more im provement in machinery ? There will be some gunpowder plot, or equally disastrous calamity, if improvement be countenanced in machinery —(Laughter, and hear and hear.) Some reasonable person amongst you would be disposed to say to him—" If your papa was of that opinion you would not be to day the great man you are." No ; Peel is op posed to stop-gaps in machinery, and lam opposed to stop gaps in politics. I shall not now advert to the House of Lords, or the question of Reform in that branch of the Constitution. In truth, I have set that question aside for five or six weeks. I use no argument on the subjeet at present ; and why ? Why, simply because the Lords will have met, and be at their work in about six weeks, and I am sure they will exhibit a disposition to do mischief, which will afford a much stronger argument than any I could use in favour of the necessity of Reform.--(Cheers.) I once heard of an Irish schoolmaster, who, when a carriage would be coming up near his school, would say to his scholars, " Come now, boys, this is the time to show what.advance you have made in unmannerliness."—(Laughter.) So it is with the Lords just now ; they will be presently turned out to show what progress they have ma d e i n unmannerliuess. But it i s said by some that they may be converted. Converted ! Lyndhurst converted to political honesty indeed ! Yes ; when the Thames turns against its current, and flows back to Windsor. Ellenborough con verted to an economist ! Yes ; when the Thames continues its backward course as far as Oxford.—(Laughter.) Lon donderry converted to common sense ! Winchelsea to Chris tian charity ! Newcastle to a conviction that the property of the people is not lawfully the property of his own family ! Converted, indeed !—( Hear, hear.) We Papists, you are aware, have much faith in miracles ; but it certainly does not extend so far as to put faith in a miracle of this extent, —(Hear, and laughter.) I have often, in addressing meet, ings of my follow-countrymen in Ireland, saiti- , = " Hereditary bondsmen--know you uot, Who would be free—himself must strike the blow ?" —(Cheers.) Here there is a great blow to bo struck—not a blow of bloodshed and violence, but a blow to the corrup tions and abuses of our institutions, struck by the honest and intelligent men who are rallying for the rights of their country. Let your Political Unions revive, and let that of Birmingham rear its noble head again, to terrify the hydra monster of borou ghmongeringeorruption.—(Cheers.) Rally in 3our union of good sense, of firmness and unbending pa triotism ; and then, Harrah for old Ireland, Scotland, and for England famed in story. And when thus combined, let us recollect that there remains but one monster, who, after desolating Poland, threatens the peace of Europe; and thou nistrati on , i let every one whose heart beats for the mothers of the ehil dren wh o per i shed in Poland rally with tho present Admi in the three no o countries, ll that the ise very aspect repro of 24 millions rder t tranqui and to duce union of combined freemen may strike terror into the heart of the despot—that their frown may drive the miscreant back to his northern deserts ; and the flame of liberty that burns in your breasts may shed its influence even upon the serfs, that are subjected to its sway,—(The Hon. and Learned Gen- Oman sat down amid loud and enthusiastic cheers, which continued for some minutes.) Mr. O'Connell and the principal guests then retired, after which several toasts were proposed ; amongst others, Mr. PAGET (the Mayor) returned thane -'s, The Corporation of Leicester," for which " The EArly Al ki d •' 1 1 , -- Icloa .corporation of the Borough qi Birrningllam," coupled with the name of Mr. Jos ir , who also returned thanks. The hilar't f h kept till a late hour% • XP e evening was up and ,ccounts from Copelthagevi hitatc that the Danish o . yernm ent is about tel contract a loan to cover the deficit i Ci n its tiqa,nces t The Hercuks, of iliQ fi l- U 4 ' "1 11 launched At the 11(1 Of Vehrnary at Toulon : orders are given to equip her Immediately. SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. BETTING AT MANCHESTER, THURSDAY. The only alterations of any importance that have taken place since our last, upon the Manchester Trades' Cup, relate to the Queen of Trumps, Usury, Jupiter, and Altamont. The first-named is now considered as certain not to accept for the race, and is consequently entirely out of the betting ; the second and third (Jupiter and -Usury), have each found many backers during the last few days, at several points less odds, whilst a rumour being in circulation that Altamont will not accept on Monday next, he was retrograded to the present figure. Red Rover's party are still very firm, and accept of all the fives to one offered against him. There is not much doing upon any of the others, and their prices remain as last week. CHESTER TRADE CUE, P.P. (GAUNTRY PRICES 5 to 1 agst Red Rover —taken 8 to 1 agst Jupiter—taken 8 to 1 agst Usury—taken 12 to 1 agst Barbara Bell 14 to 1 agst the Stag—taken 16 to 1 agst Lady Moore Carew—taken 16 to 1 agst Stockport --taken 16 to 1 agst Billinge—taken 16 to 1 agst Tamworth—taken 18 to 1 agst Altamont—offered 20 to 1 agst Turban—offered 25 to 1 agst Hectic—taken 25 to 1 agst Amurath 25 to 1 agst Oswald—taken LIVERPOOL JULY CUP, P.P. IQ to 1 agst. Lord Westminster's Touelistona—taken 12 to 1 agst Sir J. Boswell's General Chasse 16 to 1 agst Mr. Bowes's Mundig 16 to 1 agst Mr. Mostyn's Queen of Trumps STAG HUNTING. TWO EXCELLENT DAYS WITH THE KING'S AND DR BURGH'S STAG HOUNDS. On Monday last the King's Hounds met at the Black Dog, Bedfont, and drew a numerous field of Noblemen and Gen tlemen ; amongst whom we noticed the Noble Master the Earl of Errol, who arrived in a splendid carriage and four, followed by the Earl of Uxbridge and suite, Colonel Standon, Captain Fairlie, Messrs. Learmouth and Vvses, and a large field of equally well -mounted gentlemen. On' inquiring of Davis what deer was to be turned out, found that it was an untried deer ; but to insure sport his Lordship, with that fine noble feeling for promoting his brother sportsman's pleasure, bad provided a second ! Now Charlie, he of the Magpies, gave the office to move to the back of the Black Dog, near the bridge ; but whether through mistake or superior orders, the deer was turned out, instead of on a rich man's land, on poor man's ground, and away he took across the brook—a stopper to many. "No standing here I" says the Colonel—and first over. Tailing now commenced, over the Bath road, and on by Feltham, through Kimpton Park, by Sunbury, crossed the Thames, and was safely taken at Hampton Court, after a sharp burst of I twenty-five minutes up to the river. By this time the princi pal part of the field had enough; but a few of the good ones returned to Bedfont, about seven miles, • where the second deer was turned out, and took gallantly away for Stanwell, and over the meadows at a racing pace, for Longford--.few but Davis with the hounds—lying a moment at Colnbrook, and permitting the field to come up. A fine burst through Hitch ing's Park, and over to Sutton-green, through Langley, turned there, and made up for Iver-green, and was safely taken at Iver, after an excellent sharp chase of fifty minutes. Two better chases I never rode to in one day. De Burgh's Stag Hounds met the following day at the favourite Three Magpies, and drew, as such meets usually do, a field of first-rate riders, who know that something is in tended if luck is in their favour. At the usual aristocratic hour the deer was turned out, and took away well for the fa vourite country (Harrow). On the hounds being laid on they took over for Dawley at a slashing pace for Hayes, De Burgh, Vyse, and a few others, swimming the canal, the chase now getting interesting, as the deer was boldly facing a line of country for Harrow, crossed the London-road by the bridge, and on to Wexley, and up to Northolt church, over a fine grass country to Harrow, skirting that beautiful village, and on by Roxteth to Field-end Farm, up to Eastcot, where many had enough; but the deer was not yet at Robottam's (the Finish), but bent on towards Ruislip Park Woods, and over by the Reservoir, and up towards Becher and Moor Park, bending on to Watford, where this gallant hind was taken in a spinney close by Moor Park, after an excellent chaee of one hour and fifty minutes over as beautiful a grass country as a man ei; u ld wish to ride over. The line of country must have Inen from point to point some fifteen miles, but the grows', gone over at least twenty miles. This was one of the bee. I have had this season. Friday the Hounds of Waiter Wilkins, Esq., threw at Llanvillo, and after drawing several covers without success, they at length made for the beautiful furze cover on Alith villo, when, to the gratification of a numerous field of sports men, a gallant fox was unkennelled, which immediately made off a slapping pace for the Berry bank, but finding that not a safe retreat, he made from thence to the bank of the Llunvey, but still finding no refuge from his pursuers, he directed his course for Coedycriggin, where it was feared he would earth ; however, undervaluing the speed of his pursuers as well as dis daining so ignominious a refuge, he left the covert and steered his course across the Dillas through Trebarried Wood, in the direction of Llandevalley Hill, but finding himself so warmly pursued, he turned to the left, and passing through the large wood on Pontebatt farm, it was evident he would once more seek for safety in his former abode, but this stanch pack were determined that Reynard should have no quarters, and soon convinced him that delays were dangerous. Doubling his ground once more to the banks of the Llunvey, where he was talleyed in fine style, he sought Tregunter Wood, but being foiled in his attempt to reach his place of safety, be again faced the open country ; finding his strength nearly exhausted, he turned short to the left with the hounds close at his brush, and succeeded in getting to earth ; thus completing as fine a run as ever was witnessed in the county of Brecon, of two hours and forty minutes without a check. HUNTING APPOINTMENTS. The King's Stag Hounds meet on Monday at Maidz,nhead Thicket ; Friday, at Riching's Park-half-past 11. These hounds will hunt in the Vale of Aylesbury on the 9th and 11th of February. The Burton Vale Hounds on Tuesday at Burton Common ; Fri day, at Lydlinch Bridge. The Burton Harriers on Tuesday at Mapperton Farm House. Mr. B. Fretwell's Hounds on Tuesday at Cold Aston; Thursday, at Alderton Village ; Saturday, at Hawling Gate-11. The East Sussex Hounds on Monday at Swann Chailey ; Wed nesday, at Isfield Bridge ; Thursday, at Five Ash Down Common ; Saturday, at New Timbea Holt-qr. toll. Mr. Alure's Hounds on Tuesday at Brighton Green ; Thursday, at Thurlow-hf-. p. 10 The East Essex Hounds on Tuesday at Bulmer ; Thursday, at Stanvray-street; Saturday, at Notley Gate-hf-p. 10. Lord Petre's Hounds on Monday, at Nossey Wood ; Thursday, at Woodham Workhouse; Saturday, at Southall Bridge -half-past 10. Sir R. Hill's Hounds on Monday at Twe.:nlows ; Wednesday, at Chetwynd ; Saturday, at Stoke Heath-half-past 10. Mr. S. Owen's Hounds On rionday at Woolaston •; Frida at Aston Hall-bf-p. 10. y, Mr. Wicksted% hounds on Tuesday at Aqualate ; Friday, at Shallow ford-hf-p. 10. The Albrighton Hounds on Monday at Little Onn ; Thursday, at the Plough, Weston Heath ' • Saturday, at Bishop's Wood-hf-p.lO The Her e f or d s hi re Hounds on Tuesday at Ford's Bridge Friday, at Eastwood Oak--10. Mr, Wilkins's Hounds on Monday at Llanvillo-half-past 10. The Cottesmore Hounds on Monday at the Bull, Witham Com mon ; Tuesday, at Brook Hall ; Thursday, at Hollywell-qr. to 11. Earl Fitawilliam's Hounds on Monday at Elton New Close ; Wednesday, at Bamwell Wolds ; Thursday, at Abbot's Ripton-10. Sir R. Sutton's Hounds on Monday at Barling's Abbey; Tues day, at Coddington Plantation; Wednesday, at Brattleby ; Thurs day, at Wickersby ; Saturday. at Kingthorpe-I I. Air. Heanley's Hounds on Tuesday at Hagg Village ; Thursday, at Tumby Wood ; Saturd a y, a t T at h we ll H a l l-11. Lord Yarborough's Hounds on Monday at Gainsby House ; Tues day, at Swinhop House; Friday, at Hainton House; Saturday; at Rib y Cross-roads-at 11. '1 e Camblidgeshire Hounds on Monday at Whitehall t, Friday, at Staughton Bridge. Mr. Meynell's Hounds en Tuesday at Keddle'ston ; Thursday, at . Swarkstone ; Saturday, at Langley-half-paist 10. The Marquis of Hastings' Hounds on Wednesday at Cavendish Bridge ; Saturday, at Bunny-half -past 10. The Devizes Harriers on Tuesda:, at New Coppice; Friday, at South Down-11. Mr, A. Smythe's Hounds on Monday at Oare Hill ; Tuesday, at 'New Mill; Thursday, atWilster W oo d ; F r id ay, at P enton --11. Mr. W. Rcaltiek's Hounds •on Monday at the Star, Marshfield Howil ; Wednesday, at Beckhampton Inn ; Friday, at Freshford half-past 10. Mr. Portman's Hounds on Monday at Shillington ; Thursday, at Stalbealge Park-hf-past 10 Mr. Hall's Hounds on Tuesday at Chaffeombe Wood; Wednes day, at Bow Gate ; Friday, at Hatch Court ; Saturday, at High Ham-half-past 10. The Charborough Hounds on Monday at Canford ; Thursday, at Bere Wdod; Monday, the Bth, at the Kennel-hf-p. 10. The Somerset Hounds on Tuesday at Cocker Coombe ; Friday, at Buncombe Hill-half-past 10. The East Kent-Hounds on Monday at Ashley ; Wednesday at Sweech Gate; Friday, at Acrise Mill-half-pastlo. The Tickham Hounds on Monday at Snoekhurst ; Thursday, at Kingsdown Church-lif-p. 10. The Cheshire Hounds on Monday at Sandiway Head ; Wednesday, at Kinderton ; Thursday, at Bradfield Green ; Saturday, at Oulton Park ; Monday, at Peover ; Wednesday; at 13artington Heath ; Thursday, at Minshull ; Saturday, at Beeston Hall -hf-p. 10. Air, C. Brook's Hounds on Monday at Crowle ; Wednesday, at Broad Heath ; Saturday, at the Lickey-hf-p. 10. The Easton Hounds on Wednesday at Hill Top, Rochford ; Satur day,at Berrington Court, near Tanbury-10. The Sandbeek Houndl on Monday at Badby Toll Bar ; Wednes dayat Morthen Hall; Friday, at Todwick Bar-half-past 10. The Badsworth Fox Hounds on Tuesday at Fenwiek ; Thursday, at Ackworth Moor Top ; Saturday, at Cringlestone-hf-p. 10. Mr, Follambe's Fox Hounds on Monday at Blythe Law Hill ; Wednesday, at Jockey House ; Friday, at the Kennels-hf-p. 10. The Oakley Hunt (Mr. Dansey's Hounds) on Monday at Cran field ; Tuesday, at Cowper's Oak; Thursday, at Swineshead; Satur day, at Wilhamstead-qr. to 11. The Warwickshire Hounds on Monday at Farnborough; Tuesday, at qrFoxcote to ; Thursday, at Uft on W oo d ; Saturday, at Wellesbourne 11. The Atherstone Hounds on Monday at Wharton Village ; Tues days at Cadeby Toll Gate; Thursday, at Annesley ; Saturday, at Combe-qr. to 11, Mr, AlAster , a Hounds on M on d ay at the Foss Road, Strkggle thorpe ; Friday, at Epperstone-half-p. Afr. Errington's Hounds on *Ande l at Quenby Hall ; Tuesday, at Beddon Wooe • Thursday, at Shearsby, ; Saturday, at Wartpahy-qr. to, Friday, at Widmerpool; 11. The RuffOrd Rounds on _,At icsag a v at w e n aw ; Tuesday, Grange ; Thursda.y, iie_tth„, e ,.-- at Oxton Saturday, at the King's Stand hulf-pa4t 3,_. `4 ,W,l n n,stAY "NITA on Monday at New Bridge ; Wednesday, qt CAG E Dmix 1 Saturday, at Gobowen • Monday, at Allan Sadler, 1 Friday, at Wo r th en b ury Village -at li. Mr. Payne's Hounds on Monday at Kelroarla ; Wednesday, at Dallington ; Friday, at Great H (widen , • Saturday, at Welford arr half-r, I°l SPIRIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURNALS. - - The Reform D:nner at Birmingham on Thursday last, of the report of which we this day give the con clusion, reflects honou r on that wealthy and enligh tened town. The number present was little short of 1,000, and the room was literally crowded to overflow. ing. The spirit that pervaded the meeting was highly creditable to the Reformers of Birmingham. Of the speeches delivered on this occasion several were excel lent, Mr. O'Connell's in particular was in his best style. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman told the men of Birmingham that he could now appeal to the common sense of Englishmen in behalf of Ireland, a s the Reform Bill, before the passing of which the name of English liberty was a mockery, gave to the people of England the power of determining whether Ireland should have justice done to her, or should suffer from mis-government, and be in consequence a burden on this island. Mr. O'Connell very properly reminds his English hearers, that Catholic Emancipation gave to them ti - e blessing of Parliamentary Reform : " When the Bill for Parliamentary neform was brought forward in the year 1831, mark how the majority of the Representatives, as they are called, or, in other words, the majority of the Members of Parliament for England, were against that Bill ; the majoity of those who called them selves the Representatives of Scotland, but who were not the Representatives of the Scottish people at all, were also against that Bill. How, then, did it go through a second. reading ? Because the majority of the Membels for Ire land was so overwhelming, that it turned the scale." No wonder that the Tories should be so anxious to shed the blood of the Catholics —should be so anxious to revive religious prejudices, in order to kindle the flames of civil strife. The first use made by the Catholics of their liberty, was to aid in the rescue of their English brethren from the domination of a ra pacious oligarchy. But if the Tories will never for give the Irish for the loss sustained in the Reform Bill, carried by the overwhelming majority of Irish Members, that ought to secure to Ireland in return the gratitude of the people of England. Mr. O'Connell stated that wherever he had presented himself in Ire land, he found the people ready to give bp Repeal, if justice were done to them ; and " Here," exclaimed the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, " I am come to England now to say, that I will give up the Repeal for ever, if I can get justice for Ireland. But lam your fellow-subject, not your slave ; and I say this, that if I do not get justice from England, I will throw myself back upon Ireland again. I would not deserve to be co equal with Englishmen, if I were capable of consenting to any hopeless tyranny whatsoever." The reception Mr. O'Connell has met with in every large and enlightened community of England and Scot land, sufficiently proves that he has the hearts of the people of this country as well as 1 2:is own. The strength of the Irish is in this union, Nothing can detach the people of England from the Irish, so long as the latter seek only justice. The 'Tories, indeed, would refuse to do justice to them, because, forsooth, they are hostilely disposed towards England. But the people of this country are too powerful to dread being just. From Tories the Irish have, indeed, nothing to fear ; but if it should happen, for the first time in the his tory of the world, that even-handed justice gene rates disaffection —that kindness produces Vindictive feelings —the Irish would then deprive themselves of the strength they derive from their union with all the liberal and enlightened inhabitants of Bri tain, and they would become the victims of their own 7, - lisconduct. But we fear not the Irish ; we fear only the weakness which springs from an obstinate perse verance in injusti ce . Th e P rotestant religion is in no danger. Low must that man's estimate of the Pro testant religion be; who can suppose its existence in Ireland dependant on continuing the 910,000 inhabi tants of corporate towns the slaves of 1,161 indivi &pls. Justice is now poisoned at its source. The vile Corporation of Dublin, for instance, name the Sheriff's who empanel juries for the trial of cases in volving the lives, liberties, and properties of upwards of 300,000 c iti zens ; and " so strong, " said Mr. O'Connell, " is the conviction of the partiality of these nominees of the Corporation, that many a client of my own has frequently preferred refusing to go- to trial, rather than trust his property or his liberty to a Jury of their nomination." We were much ranused by the holiday which the Honourable an , :t Learned Gentleman allowed to the Lords. It reminds us of an anecdote told of Johnson by Bosavell. Johnson and Adam Smith had been disputing, Cadell's shop, and the fo rmer h a d behaved rude:ly to the economist, who left the shop in dudgeon, Robertson, the his torian, soon after approached, and Cadell, who was displeased with Johnson, said he supposed Robertson would fare no better with him. Johnson, however, 'was piqued into extraordinary politeness, and ever af terwards showed great kindness to the historian. "1 shall now," says Mr. O'Connell, "advert to the House of Lords, or the question of Reform in that branch of the Constitution. In truth I have set that question aside for five or six weeks. I use no argument o n the subject at present ; and why ? Why simply because the Lords will have met, and be at their work in about six weeks, and I am sure they will exhibit a disposition to do mischief, which will afford a much stronger argument than any I could use in favour of the necessity of reform.— (Cheers.) I once heard of an Irish schoolmaster who, when a carriage would be coming up near his school would say to his scholars, Come now, b o y s , th is is the time to show what advance you have made in unmannerliness.'— (Laughter.) So it is with the Lords just now ; they will be presently turned out to show what progress they have made in unmannerliness." It would be more than a Popish miracle indeed were the Lords to become just, to give the lie to Mr. O'Connell. One of th e s i gns o f the times, deserving of some notice, is the lamentation of the Standard that the people of England are so perverse as to de mand reports of O'Connell's steeches, which compels the newspapers to supply the demand. Alas, for No Popery I—Morning Chrinzide. From every part of the kingdom has the shout for Reform gone . iorth. The millions have every where declared in favejtir of the Ministry with an enthusiasm and unanur;ity which must strike terror into the hearts of the enemies of good government, and which will no uoubt exercise a most salutary influence on the proceedings of th e a pp roac hi ng S ess i on . Th e dubious Reformers in the House of Commons will be com pelled, by the force of public opinion, and the fear of meeting their constituencies, - should they be found wanting in support of a liberal policy to take a de cisive stand by the cause o f th e nat i on . Th e time.is critical, and any man who shall be absent from his post, unless through inevitable necessity, should be considered as a traitor to his country. The character of the Session will, in a great measure, be determined by the demonstration on both sides made at its com mencement. The Tories now have no hopes from external influence, their sole chance rests on internal intrigue. This has already been proved, by the result of last Session, to be inadequate to interrupt, though it has been sufficient to embarrass, the progress of Reform. Reform has now nothing to fear from open enemies, it is from false friends only that assaults may be apprehended.- Though all are now, by their own profession, Reformers, some in the extreme, but all in a degree, yet with many Re form is but a mask, assumed for the miat iniquitous purposes—it is put on to allay suspicion—asa disguise to gain ad m i ss i on to t h e peop l es ' conf i dence, but let us be on our guard. Should these maskers be admitted to our counsels, a death-blow will be aimed at the li berties of the country. As we anticipated yesterday, Birmingham maintained the glory it hag already ac quired in its unflinching and undaunted support of li beral principles. The account wi:;:ch appeared yester day, in our second edition. of the Reform Dinner, must give more that ordinary satisfaction. Other meetings ar e i n contemplation, so t h a t b e f ore t h e meeting of Parl ; :ament, there will be scarcely a place of any Kingdom that . will . not cownquence in the expression of . their allegiance have sent in the to liberty, and of c onfidence in . the Mi n i stry, who are at present identified with its success, It is madness in the Tories to suppose th at t h ey can ever regain the balance of affairs, from which th e y have been driven with as much igno m i ny as f ustice. An united people is irresistible. Euelaaj, s cf ., t h in d, and Ireland, have sworn to support Reform ac tion surely rushes on its own destruck h if it dare ; and f to cow in collision with the milliona who are ready at a moment to stand forth for the recovery of their rights. The people have made a great discovery in proving the strength of " Union''—we trust they will never be called upon to test the effects of simultaneous action,.