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ConStitutien.--(Loud cries of hkar ! heap*!. fo 0, the Opposition.) Tha Learned' gentle man supposed, from the acclamation tie .had lust heard, he should have "some, rule laid down to con ino that he mistinderstood - his profession; he would, however, repeat the queAion, and ask Where the . ' '• ‘vas to be found, because to practise it was that he looked for Constitutional rules. In prece • dent he knew there were none. He was not defend . In the Noble Eld against error; he had admitted_ that he had - erred, -- nay,' he would go farther, and say, that he would have -acted more _candid if, in his evidence at.the.Bar, had.declared what had passed on the interview ; but although he abstained from so doing, was there any thing dangerous in - what he had done ?—Why, there were many things dangerous to the Constitution. For instance, luxury _ was dangerous to the - Constitution. If 'a person gave an extravagant -dinner ) , that was dargcrQua to the constitution .and purse. also.: • Party spirit and fac tions combinations weld dangerous. (Loud cries Qf, Rear ! hear! front the Opposition)—l find, said the, Learned Gentlemun, I 'have touched a stting,,Which vibrates keenly ;, but those things are highly danger ;cons and impreper. It has been said that'tbe enceof:the Crown is dangerons to the Constitution. Is there any thing snore dangerous than party spirit ,But Gentlemen will not say, because it has an an evil tendency, that therefore it is uncoustitulionaL.— The Hon. ,and Learned 4 Gentleman obseryed, that supposing, under these circumstances, the question should be put upon 'the resolutions, and they should ,he paSsed, _then another rin.e - Stion of material iniport ance remained behind, and that this was theproper time when the resolutions should .be brought tpr ward. He must say, that having been brought for ward at this period 91 the Inquiry, the-Noble Earl bad been very hardly dealt with, and had much to' complain of both here and with the Public at large. He - had been' the victim of popular clamour to an extent beyond any thing. Se powerful was cla- Moor when exerted that it knew no bounds ;'it per vaded rile whole kingdoM. It. certainly was very natural that in,the event of the failure, at an Expe dition of such magnitude,. the Public should con. Ciive that-blame was imputable soinewhece, .and, as it was not very natural to . tax the naval 'service with failure, why - the land service was the object . He • could lay his haud•upon 'heart and say" that be' had done infustite to . the Noble Earl. (A laagh.)— Gentlem,en opposite might treat his „assertion witt ridic'ule, but the feet was so, for he: bad been the tool of clamour, from a suggestion which fell .flom his. 'Right tioh. Friend (Mr. Pereeval), he •thad read the evidence; that evidence he Was-justi in'saying, did not bear out the .advocates for clamour against the Noble Earl. He was a stranger to the NOble Earl, and 'in examining the evidence, was actuated only by a desire to ch; .justice to the charader of a Britigi Commander of - an Expedllion. 1• 'He was convinced„that in that examination'it was Utterly impossible 'to find that want of energy was 'imputable to . the Noble Earl ;' that any insinuation of . the kind could be drawn frart the testimony of elle. witnesses., Su :far, therefore, the Noble Earl was entitled to a presumption . in his favoni, that he had acted with .the. greate,st energy. fie did most firmly believe, that instead of des , ,:rviog cell - Sure, and being charged with prejudicing the Royal ear against his coidjutor.in the Expedition, charges' which hdi.i been whkly circulated in the public prints thronliout the kingdom, the Noble Earl' was nn,.- deserving of that public oblecioy 'and reproach which hid 'been so liberally cast upon him. He had done for the service all that could be done, and he bad. 'the Merit of not attempting while in the command,. ro do that which he was empowered to.attempt by his instruetioris. My . .. Lord Wellington had not id' his opinion . acComplOted more than - what the Noble Earl has dene; and in C'easing' s ti,,attempt accom plisliing what could_ not be-effe&ed, he had shewn . himself a meritorious. Officer.'.. With respO'A to the' manner in which the prosecutor had conduaed the • case against the N-ble Earl, he certainly had ab-- . 4tained from saying any thing favourable' to the • party accused. On the contrary he hail put it in . the strongesi odious light. The Hon. anti Learned Gentleman should • hav:e conceited; that the Noble Lord had some hereditary claims to the attention of the House. 'He had laid before them'a p tper which :comprised -his defence, and' then:cattle thrward as a • .witness at t.l e Bar in a case . which would exculpate excuse his own cooduCA: every opportunity was • taken by the 'prosecutor to examine him minutely, , - to that paper as well as every other. It. , had been inferred, that some bold . insinuatiot s'had . been con • tamed in the paper---that some strcing hml - been subsequently withdrawn, after it . was obi,ained fromhis . Majesty. - This; however, failed ; and then . . the HOn. Getttlemap took the only course which he could - take to stop the Inquiry, and brought forward - his resolu- ions. It was 3 sort of 0. P.ProCeeding, deavouringby clamours to obtain want they could net - dObyt evidence. Gentlemen had been very agent for preceeding with the 'lnquiry ; they could. not spare a . day from it ; they grudged every hour in which the House sat that was not consumed in the Inquiry; wilen the . case. was closed on their parts, and the' Noble . Earl ,was reedy to enter on his defence; they came with ;;ort . 'of episode to the catastrophe; and, by a' couple of Sweeping resolutions, endeavour _ ed to get rid of. the charge altogether, , distindly ar(i%ving that their o},a was to get rid of -the pre- - ,rot lli%risters. Finding they could riot - etled that object then, they hope, by. .these prematnre reso,- Ititiens to get rid at leaA, of one of the Ministers. It 1 .was therehare consistent with thy particular views of Gentlemen opposite that they should trytheir hands ' at an ouster: He believed that such proceedings ware 'never heard of many Court before; He would allk his Learned.Feiends opposite, whether be endnred in a Court of Justice, ti:t when a de fendant was preparing to otter a' defence to - the charges against hire, the prosecutor should turn him round aild s : Iy; No, ),ou shan't do so ; you shall not libel us." , Such condud,,if perMitted ano- • - the*. Cdurt, would be gross and palpable .injustice. in the present instance such was the/course of pre - • ceediug ; the conclusion, to which the House uuder these circumstances ,Must come, would 1)4 to vote the previous question. If the House did net come to that,canclusion, then he must eake the ad of the . Noble Earl to be. so piconstitutioirst—that there was something so dangerous in it, that it as irbpossible to pass it' over. Yet Mahe same time it was not de ' ri.edthat he might approach the royal ear, and cow- Municate any thing. The breach of the. Constitu cousisted io oenuni:tiog his opinions tp . . It was -impossible the , Houle get.at any bad •jeste advice elke propriety of he half nee sub etivit!:e verbally given, unless they could call-the ,So- milted to.hise colleagues, aedeven requested his . Nfa veteign before them e s an evidence. The.- Hon. - testy: to keep that advice from the kneveledge of .and Learned Gentleman considered, that hi bring- • ; those who ought to be considered his cuntitieetialS leg the charge against the Noble Earl he had been and responsible servants. .Tholtfe of the illustrious treated harshly. The House would not,' he hoped, person from whom the Noble Lora sprung, had.. forget that he was the son of the first_William Pitt, been spent in fighting the battles of his country, and the brother of the second William Pitt.— L and in contending . against that secret influence He hoped that the Cafoseand the Brutuses on the which', lurking behind the Throne, - hahadetraracter other side of. the Hopse'weuld not forget' his re- red Asgre ; a:er.thap the Throne itself,--Having long . lationship. 'When he saw the Noble Earl under ex- , 1 Strieggled against this hidden power, he httd resigned =illation at the Bar, he fancied he heard the tones his official situation, b:cause, as he himself expres ofehose prodigies of 'genius; °lice the boast of this sed it; " he . could np logger Ineresponsible for urea= - 1 country—that he heard the tongues of those Muss !. sures - over which he . - had no controul."—lt was on trious men, (MCC the ornament of the Senate, (new, this grotind so distinctly stated by teat great man, alas, mouldering in'yonder graves'). again rieett ing that .he -(Mr. , B.) - stigmatized the conduct which the attention of an admiring audience. (Hear, hew., took away from the men who araght to be respon. from the Alinisterica side.)---It was not :or the ho- stole their control over . the .measures of the -Sevee netts of king that the brother of the late thus, : reign, If it were to he tolerated that .eech Minister Arious Prime Minister ,should be thus treated. He ahouldoffer'tiethe Soeereign his Individual and se e invoked the support of his Fr; ads, he begged the • cset advice, the must serious evils might ensue: . aid of their eloquence to tell the House that the son Supposes an expedlion plaaned, and that one Noble ,of Lord Chatham, the brother of WiflianiPitt, at ; or Right Hou . person, giving. the preference to the least ought to have justice .done }time s -When employmeet ot. cassalry, offered to his Majesty se, heard the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Whitbread) address cret advice to employ that description of force; that the House, in moving the . resolutions, he was sere : another, proceeding on a difi - erent opinion, secretly prised and hurt that the' Honourable G, title recominaeded the embarkation of infiintry alone ; man would, in order to serve s a particular purpose, that a, third secretlyeadvised the attack to ire made hate quoted passages that were tittered by theagreat 'by a coup-de-mehrs a 1 reqatistiug - that their semi- Lord Chatham, to contrast them welt the condud of „, meets rel i ght be conceited ; chuld any thing he con the son. Mr. S. declared he would ant Isave qtioted. ceiked more dangerous ? Could cot:lesion be worse these passages—be st as a 'father, and he would rather cenfounded . than would be the probable rissult of have said e -e‘ Let not my conduq be daken.as the such condua ? The Learned Gentleman had term rule of guidance for my son. It he has done that ed,this accusation Of Lord-eh:same) ainepisode, for which requires, examination, let hirn be tried getting thetahe eet of secretly advising his Majesty tipop his owe merits; but do rot visit upon him was entirely distinct frotn the Expedition, .atid Was my particular expressions."--4f 1., said Mr. er e _ 'a whole of itself. - If the Noble Lore's condud in this phen, had accusations to bring against the sone, I aflitir, proved by his owthadmissions and by his Me wyuld not, Sir, run to the receptacle for the ashes' testy'sens wet to the Address, were not pronounced of dean, and pluck stones from the monument of by the House of Cotenants Ito be unconstitutional, the father to bruise the heart of the son. (Loud cries there wor ld hewn end at once to the rest onsitiility of of Hear, hear !) Tee Noble Lord is a soldier-adet Alin' s eers ; for how, in fairness, -could Ministers. be it not be forget that he has an illustrious name'to reehred responsible for 'advice which they had not support. In drawingd up the paper, lie ha aded • given ? in defence, therefore, of the present, and of .not with a. view of injuring any petsene bat solely feture Administrations ; in defence even of tee from a desiie, laudable, indeed, was, of ofteribg Crown itself, whose interests were intimately cone apt tin stetement of' facts' to public calumny. His ,fleded with the dectsien of the question, 'he called °Oh-pee was not-so much against, the Constitution as upon the House, to agree- to the liesolutions of his s egainst his colleagues. The Hon. and Learned Gen- Hon. Frichd. denten. concluded a _very able speech, with declar- t Mr. BANKES deemed the present a question of log, that as an honest man he could not vote forthe. great Moment., It 'had occurred to -him, even . before Resolutions. • he entered the/House, that beeought to pause be- Mr. BROUGHAM -assured the - House that he . fore he gave his opinion, and to coesid& deliberately would not detain them long, but called upon so:loudly whether: the Noble Lord whose condat was'eona as the supporters of` the Resolutious were by the deemed-he the resalutions - before the House, had Learned Gentleman who had just satdown,.to state been guilty of any pradice which justified the term by what lava or statute the at to.which- those Re- unconstitutional, as applied, to the! condude He solutions re'erred was. rendered onconsituttional, he had, listened, very 'attentively to the Learned Gen would humbly tender, to the House a few observe- tiernart. who had just sat down, and 'who, - he pre tions on the subjeEt. •He weuld first, however, a l- summed,. had collected all that •could be said iim, shp e lode toa great deal of extraneeus matter introduced port of the argument which Iv& had mentioned. by the Learned Gentleman., He ,could assure that , v hat :did that all ameunt ?- The Learned Gen Learned Gentleman, that he' was as anxious as tleman was of ()pinion* that theecondu4 of Lord himself that justice should be done to the son Chatham had been uncoestitutional, 'and thisiopis of the great Lord Chatham, and the -brother of .; nion he declared that he had deduced from7all the Nr. Pitt. He heartily assented seemly avota that, kno a n principles of the Constitution. The Learned hadeseee said in vindication of Lord Chatham's ge- Gentleman had stated it as one of thsete known need condush s It was true that the Noble L"rd principlee that the Members of 'the Cabinet Coen, had been basely traduced—it was true, that for , cd_should a& in concert. Now the fact was that the weeks he had been most shamefully calumniated by c'xifocticc 'of n Cabinet eosins:el was et:known to the the prese, and particularly by that put of time press Constilution. In old times the Privy Councillors widish espoused the cause of AhminiStration. The were the Constitutional adVisces of his Majesty, el- Noble Lord had been - accused of haaing . occasioned though it was true that in Modern times, (awing to the fdilurgoi the late EapeditiOn. Until the Inquiry fee occurrence originating in .a Cabal, a certajn num- . into the causes of that failure had made considerable ber of those Privy Councillors were usually formed progrees, to the negligenee.of his Lordship it had into a body and ealled the Cabinet Council. And been clamoromisly attributed. These were the calum- here he would remark, 'that when he agreed, area nies which .ksord Chatham had sustained, and he. recent evening, to the Addresa relative to th 6 pro heo:ily agreed with the Learned Gentleman that he' duction of any farther narrative of Lord Chatham's, had sostained them with , dignity. 'At length the it was not otalte general greendeolconstitutionel falsehood of such accusations had been made magi- cessity stated by the mover of that AddreSst His fest: . This was 'not the time, however, for him to . . 1 , reasotnfor concurring in the motion of the Address proceed to slew, that the. faults which had been was, that the House having thodght fit to require ascribed to Lord Chatharts ought to be laid at the the production of one narrative , andthere appearing door of others. So far he and We LearnechGentle= a suspicion that a prior narrative %'as sits existence; man were of the same Tinton. He Would now j he 'could see *no cause; as the second narrative had say,a 'few Wotdtin ref ly to that part of the Learned' been produced, why the first ought not to be de- Gentleman's speech in which he could not cuncitr. i mantled. He could by no meana understand on The Learned Gehtletnan did allow, that that ae,t of what principle of the Constitution the Learned Gen- Lord Chatham's, against which the Rest - A:ohms # Ileman Wended his doetrine,that.oneof the confiden proposed by his Honourable Friend were direded, 1 tial• ads isers - of his Majesty recognised as suchs ought •Was improper and unbecoming, The difference , not to have access to' his Sovereign to tender any ad- between, these terms and - the . term unconstitutional vice. that he might think proper. If such an .indivi appeare'd to be but Slender ; yet it' was most Ma:. I .dual were to take this step 'without the knowledge poi tent .that the House should mark their sense par-, :of.hia colleagues, to them it - might be an offence, tietilarly e of the " unconstitutional" character of the but cert.:linty none to the Constitution. After th.'s ad. It was not on the' supposition that Lord expeditioe had terminated, and LordChathata's func- Chathatn had insinuated into his , Royal, Master's i lions as Connuandeehed ceased, hail not' the Noble 6r any false or invidipus statement that the Re- Lord a right, ai a constitutional adviser of his Ma-• solutions were founded, but ..on the mode itt jesty, and holding the high situation which he did • which the statement had been made, and the in the Government of, the country, to demand . ail circumstances which accompanied it. Time House audience of his Sovereign, for time purpose of render botti by the Noble Lord's own evidence, and by ing to 'him an accounteif his proceedings ? Would Majesty's answer to•the Address, were in possession not the Noble:Lord have had *right to do this by of the fads Naar Lord Chatham asked leave of, his l word of meuthl` Not only had he a tight to de .- so,,but . Majesty to present to him a Narraeive of the Expea l lie would be culpable had henot done so.• If then ditto') ;,, that on the 15th of January that Narrative he had' a right to give Majesty advide.and infor . was presented, accompanied by a request of. sectesy; 'oration by word of mouth, what vas there in the, •by a request that hies Majesty would keep it from character of a written, and therefore of a more de the knowledge of his' other Ministers; that he would tailed and accurate statement by, which such a tight allow no human being to see it ; neither those whose was abrogated I—With respeei to-tile motives which conduct it described, nor those who, as the coefideb- induced the Noble Lord to withdraw his first state- tial 'advisers bf the Crown, were. responsible for the : meat for the purpose s Of returning it in an amended plan itself; that the Noble : Lord subsequently re- form, the House had not the means of judging. It claimed his Narrative—thaehe triade material altera- • was probable that they Would hat'e known more on tions in it—that he suppressed a paragraph of discus- thiS subjeti had it not been 'for the interruption sion, and that in this state it was again presented by which had occurred in the eiarninatien oftheNoble him to his Majesty. On these fads the llosolutiOns f Lord ; but even . were those rnotiVes criminal, the were justly founded. On these filets it was declared scrime was not against time .Coestit Olio's. It might in those Resoltitiebsc that the conduct of Lord Chae:. be a very heinous mot 4 but no stich. crime' ham had been highly unconstitutional.' He aerehd i Waacharged in time resf)lutions before ... the •H cuser----' with the Learned Gentleman, that it would be dith- j Nothing could be more dangeions.thau to charge '. cultao find any precise at of Parliatnent on which -an individual with a crime, the' nature of which was this declaration could be supported ; but it appealed not distinctly and decisively deScribed, bat which Was for its foundation . to-every one of those principles of Jett to be interpreted as circumstances which the Constitution was made up, and in which i He did not utter this opinion because the Noble Lord it existed. Was it necessary, in a constitutional j was descended from one of the most illestribus poiet of view, that the confeleutial athisers of the Statesmen, or because he was time other of tete of Crewn should consult. one another on their 'proceed- Ithe best friendathat, the country had ever enjoyede— ing4? ' Was it necessary for the public service that If the individual w hose conduct was - snider, con they should do so ? Was it necessary the. Cabinet tederaf.on was one of the meahese .in the . Council should"'Concur •in their :Measures for the realm, be wool - still contend, that it was •anietoler good.Of their country ). Above all, was it neces- able glieVanee to, charge him as the Resolutions sary that for , every at of theSuvereion, a respon- chargede he liable Lord. eThe Reseltitioes, it agreed sible edviser should be found ? If ° the levee ive . woeld thrt;tvent the Noble Lord's clraractee see must be the reply to theseanquikiesa wlea" could be ma mdse injurious-ta him as public main fervereel said-of the conduct of Lord Chatham, who, him- to, how (mete they to - befolloecdeip l Uuquestiots . suit , a Member of the. Oabtnet, toudeted to his Ma- ate). the kleuse ought to addle:sS his ,'t.L to remove from a eeae horn to be an ahteea - of the Roeal onr, :nal lator of the c:onstitutione The Coostitetion %vac , a laree baok which eveey man - reatl a in lkis,own way. — In what state ivould the country be if the intereree. tation ,of its contents were. perm;tted be regulated by parry feeling ? If such a proetice. were te prevail , he should indeed tremble bur the,country. t e Could • • not conceive a Mote dengerpos-situatiOn things than that the Hnuse of UOrinnons aasurno the „power' of caPriciotisly_ declarieig that to - 13 - laW' which they might chose so,todeelare on an inr mediate view of the case, and . witho,it refereoce to any .other authority. -It Was an incoati-oiertible prineipleOfithe Conatitution, that 'lien co uld nottl:' . Unconstitutional a g ainst whichahe o nsti ntion pose sessedno guard. Ministers were responsible for atal 'aa of the Crown ; bitt for adi ice adied action they ave , e 'not responsible. The, law did tf4' allow .that they should. be .responsible. Merely:, Sherefore e to offrr advice to the Sovereign was not unconStitutional,...bectiuSe t!'re Constitution did . not afford 'any guard, against such a circiamstaoce by reta . deting the indiVidual whOolfered it responsible. The. Nohle Lord, as a Peer and a Privy-Councillor, hada right' to have access to his Maiesty. ft the advic 4 ' conveyed to his Majesty's ear was acted ;'!'on' it could only lae so abted upon constitetionally throtigb the medium of a responsible Minister. There the check. Then a the proper and constitut iooal respon sibility. It affected him by w hom the act was done,not him by whom the advice 'night have been given. TbP. former was ostensible ; -thelatter it mi;eht be difficult to trace. In the course of the peesent discussion, and of fOrmer discussions on subjects connected ,with 'it, a great e deal had been said - of secret infbl ence2 At are early period of his life, on the corn' tuencernent, indeed,, of his political life, he had also heard a great deal about secret inillience. At thlt• period Li had not the means .of knowing whether the clamour was true ter false. The illustrious States- . ' man, father of the Noble Lord, had'anquestionablf given tO that clamour the stamp of his great audio -rtty, and had rendered. it more current. Froel Many pet-Sons, however, wh,o; were well o;iri6ed to judgealpon the subjen, he had - heard mock disbe-. lief eipresSedas to the existence of- this S, - xret iu floence," He really did not bin:l-at:lf possess tlz means'of ascertaining its existence; but even if,it did exist, the .Constitution afforded ne remedy ,against it. If there were Mipisters so base as . to ItOid 1 . 01 ).(41.. sible situations under irresponsible advisers; hcwever, great the. clamour Might be against those advisers,. and . greateven, however great the.mischief-that their ails v:ce.' might occasion, the Constitution afforded no means by Which they Could' be punished ; the re" sponsible- Ministers -alOne. being hal - de by the C0 3 " 1 ,' stimtion io.punishment for the eels- outwitted 14, tht-.11). At tote. Same-time - be begged tOdi,ckiitp approbation of such underhapdtransaetioirs. 4- o(it .was-indispensable to see what the Cons titution Wag upon the subjrs responsible ect, and by. the '`onstttutiouto Ode; If his Mejest misters improper conduct, the, HOnse of Commons ringlvt, address his Majesty, to rem ove. them ; hot no ae l ' .dress the - Hou,ecould:totich aitY individtial,wdo to Oa W uilty iff. t g was not a 'responsible Recliniug cose question, he contended that it the cron e , against against the Noble Lord in the proposed new lutions was . not ilistinaly made out..--,if It not proved that hiS conduct had been (Orila unconstitutionaF---nay, if there was the s l .o' t `;',„ -. doubt upon the subject, it would be 'an ac t of greatest injustice* to adopt a motion - involV in l ii i r e some serious consequences to the p ar tv accused" j was by the Noble LOrd's wish that his-Narrativ been moved for and presented to the House. eh Narrative had Certainly - . placed his Lordship in ail convenient sittataan. If he had instead beer) mined at the Bar on the points to which it releacdPe his',statementa in' his own defetfce would perhal° have been more excusable; and after all, the Narr' i e . , five; only stated what the Noble Lordhad•done, a stances of which he, was ignorant. called upon.the other service to explain the &an': deed be most unjust, if for any error of judglneY t the mode Of doing this, the Noble Lord should the subjected to a censnre so heavy as that .whic proposed ItesOlutions conveved..L.4l any audition t : 3 Koof were requisite -that EL; indiVidnal 'advi ce °, Minister to his Sovereign 'was not unconstitationae. It would it might be found in the conduct, on a certain 0c,c,31e. slot), of a man too warm!) , attached to the . Lion to violate it ; he meant Mr. Pitt, who, - 0 0 ti occasion, was closeted with his Majesty, b Colleagues were kept in the anti-root')). „a ir) Lord Tetsuo declared, that it bad seldom - - to his lot to hear, a speech so frill of most ektraort;:e nary and unconsitutional doctrine asqbat e c )f Hen. Gentleman whO had preceded bin?. 1-1 e ' - e * .- 4 1- not conceived the possibility that .af- etiP e ' e t;alr Much less at the present time, such a dotirine Cons!4!„ behroaChed.- The Hon, Gentleman Vrn sicier i et ;0' A conduta of the Noble Lord justified by his I . e Privy couneillor to advise - his Majesty.-; wee had-said that 'the Cabinet 'Council was a body,eei„ known to the Constitntion, and wh iCh had , ° t . o th e fitted in a eabal;. ,Certainly it was " I " l—vri leriy-" F Constitution, bUt woUld.the Honourable Gen' tbee contend- that the Members of it, 'call , d were to aft in' -the- King's confideotial atl° , ought net to possess ,the connuence„of one acr e to ther ? Would he contend that . th o:4e .6 e with 018 advise his Majesty ought not to advise e ject) another ? "Besides, at the, time of the cabal itt the Cabinet Council' originated , the PrivY C(34le„g, Tors were the Conatitutienal advi 3 unitedl): oe ;ir the The'cabal was composed of fotir the . principle of seeresysto advise' out - a communication .with the Cthioet at far e• _that occasion' Sir Temple • recoil-rine Con" La d, • Gorge il, ILI° take the, advice of .the Privy and to overturn the cabal ; yet this cabal was . ea r duded- by thee`HOn. Gentleman as a`constitutto He a" • ti jos .heation of the Noble Lorkl7s c ondue. -Ouced that' against which -the Constitution, ; teafed—the adduced it as an eaaniple for the 1 - 1 0 and as an excuse for- the Noble Lord. e-,a flan SibjestY, 01.1 e s pourable Genth., man 'was of opinion that tin advice given to his Majesty visor could nothe punished., Agrinst lie (Lerd'.l'.): protested ; ' be•than ked, God he . c not agree with the Son. Gentleman in his opn . l e w ee , of the ConStitutidn.. The Constterjon was not I r g ace ,lated by any written - law—it waS regulr4ed by P „,/ tire s and ,notlilui; could be more contrary to its P I , to , were acted upon, thi;.11..,;0, tie th:rn ,that aPrivy Councillor might atternleloe iloj'al mind, and - that if the SoYci' a g lit _to„ 'Notr be en 'dept Oq L 0;, Qh, Pt( (16 Lo w, lu Au lo t t►, ~; \\%.