The Sun. — London, England, 1838-02-23 00:00:00

SPIRIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURNALS. ~~ y .~~~ ~ ~. merely a variety of Ciat delicate sarcasm, which may be innocently employed in an after-dinner oration. Let Daniel do what he may, in the circumstances, it is not in his nature to avoid the perpetration of some mean ness. Let him, moreover, do what he may, his friends will, perhaps, extract some kind of satisfaction from ti!e reflection, that no variety of falsehood is new to him ; and that, by no act however despicable, can he descend to a lower point than he now occupies in the estimation of all honourable men. Sir William Moles worth still professes his determination.to bring the con duct of Lord Glenelg before the House of Commons on the 6th of March. That the conduct of Lord Glenelg has been obnoxious to the gravest censure, we willingly • admit ; but that Sir W. Molesworth should propose a vote of condemnation on the Colonial Secretary, does to us appear to savour of ingratitude. Without thepa se/ye aid afforded so copiously by Lord Glenelg, Sir Wil liam Moles-North's especial friends, Papineau, Mac kenzie, and their coadjutors, would never have enjoyed the chances of distinction which have lately been showered upon them. Sir William openly expressed in the House of Commons his hope that rebellion in Canada might prosper. Lord Glenelg did all that man could, by doing nothing, to ensure prosperity to the rebel party. Why then should chase friends, these active and passive allies of rebellion, fall out ? The proverb amines, that " honour" may exist amongst a class of men, prone to disregard the impertinent dis tinctions of zneunz and taunt. Why, then, should not amity exist between men, who, in their different ways, have aided as far as they might, the same holy cause ?—Morning Herald. The position into which the representation of Mary lebone has been thrown by the Parliamentary Com mittee who have announced the disqualification and expulsion of Sir Samuel Whalley appears to us, we confess, a very unintelligible one. Assuming that no legal objection can be taken to the mere property qua ; lification of Mr. B. Hall, we find that at the late election there were two additional candidates for the The claims of the Baron de Bode were last night, after an able speech from Mr. Warburton, and many able speeches in support of him, decided against the Baron by a majority in every respect disgraceful. A claim embodying greater justice was never presented to the House of Commons—a claim more unfairly treated is not, we believe, upon the record of its proceedings. If his claim be one which is utterly unfounded, why not agree to the appointment of a Committee to prove it be so ?—if right, why also object to the appointment of a Committee to ascertain the precise sum to which he is legally entitled ? " Give a dog a bad name," and every whipster will be up with his penny pistol ; and such appears to us to have been the case with the Chancellor of the Exchequer. He had no arguments to oppose to the facts adduced by Mr. Waiburton in support of the Baron's claim ; but he could say with truth that the Baron lived within the rules of the Queen's Bench, and therefore that he was not respectable—that he was a swindler, and that he hoped that no one in future would be come his victim, by becoming inmates of the same con fined circle. Very pretty language certainly from a Chancellor of the Exchequer ! If an impostor, why not prosecute him ?—lf a swindler, why not have a Committee to tell the world that be is a swindler, and that no one ought to trust him ? The case is one of atrocious injustice, and one whi c h c o u ld no t b ear a hearing in any Court of Justice. To that tribunal we recommend the Baron to apply without loss of time. The remedy is certainly one of considerable expense ; but after the speech of the Chancellor of he Exchequer last night respecting the Baron, there is no other remedy either for the salvation of his own character, or for the realization of what we deem to be his just claims.—Morning Advertiser. A sort of minor division on the Ballot question rather unexpectedly took place last night, although two or three Members, such as Mr. Brotherton and Sir George Strickland, allowed their good nature to be imposed upon so far as to sanction the introduction of a measure which, if by any chance it become law, must turn out a delusion, a mockery, and a mere pre tence of protection to voters. Mr. Slaney rose to obtain leave to bring in a Bill for the punishment of persons who used threats or intimidation to electors in the choice of representatives, and, as the hour was late, a general cry_ of " Move, move !" was raised, in order that the Honourable Member might not go into a statement of the nature of his proposal. Mr. Warbur ton, however, objected to the introduction of the Bill without reasons first assigned ; accordingly Mr. Slaney detailed some general grounds, and added that his in tention was to make the employment of threats or in timidation a misdemeanour, punishable by fine not ex ceeding 1001., past of which was to go to the voter, the offence being to be ascertained at the Quarter Session, or before' two Magistrates with the intervention of a Jury. To this plan Mr. Warburton and various other Members strongly objected ; and they were for refusing leave even for the introduction of a Bill, which was designated by them futile, nugatory, and absurd. On the other band, the Attorney-General complained that the Honourable Member for Shrews bury would thus be hardly treated ; for at first he been called upon to bring in his measure without observation, and then, after he had stated the nature of it, resistance in the first stage was offered. To this remark Lord G. Bentiuck replied shrewdly that the very grounds taken by the Honourable Mover, and the provisions he had opened to the House, showed that the scheme ought not for a moment to be coun tenanced. Of course all the friend of the Ballot, who are convinced that secret voting alone can protect the cowed and menaced electors of the empire, coin cided in this opinion ; and Mr. John Jervis con tended that nothing could be more idle or ridiculous then to attempt in this way to deal with an offence, which might be committed by the merest sign or slightest hint on the part of the person resorting to intimida tion. Mr. Goring was convinced that if such a Bill could be brought into operation, it would be enforced only against the lower order of voters, who might en deavour to influence each other, while wealthy land lords would entirely escape ; and Mr. James asserted without reserve, that the object was to divert the pub lic mind from the only real and effectual remedy against threats and intimidation. Lord John Russell, as may be supposed, was decidedly in favour of the introduc tion of the Bill ; and, referring to hie late speech against the Ballot, lie observed, that what he had then prophesied had already come to pass—namely, that if any body suggested a mode of protecting electors other wise than by secret voting, it would be instantly op posed by the friends of that - system. Surely his Lord ship could not be in earnest when he referred to the sessional resolution of the House against bribery, and suggested that a similar resolution might be annually adopted against intimidation. Does not his Lordship know that the passing of the Sessional resolution against bribery has degenerated into a mere form, or, as Mr. Gillon termed it, " a farce :"—and does he not also know that to give effect to it, sundry statutes have been passed to punish bribery by heavy inflictions ? Did he mean that a similar course should be pursued with regard to intimidation ; and, if hedid, will he show us in what way the offence is to be esta blished ? Bribery (as Mr. J. Jervis told the House) is an act capable of distinct proof, but intimidation may be employed in a thousand unascertainabl e ways. Then, as to the evidence : suppose intimidation in some cases to amount to an act, from whom is the tes timony of it to be procured ? Often only from the voter, who, by Mr. Slaney's scheme, is to be interested in the fine, and whose deposition, if received, would hardly be credited. Lord John Russell's view of the matter was naturally enough supported by Mr. Scarlett, Mr. Forbes, Col. Sibthorp, and some other Members on the Tory side of the House, who urged that it was quite a mistake, and that there was much more fancy than reality in the charges of intimidation. We do not suspect Lord John Russell of coinciding in this opinion at all events. What did the Chancellor of the Exchequer mean by talking of the indefinite language of the Bill of Rights when it declares that all elections shall be " free ?" They are to be free from intimidation, free from undue influence, free from bribery, free from the interference of the Peers, a ground of complaint which existed as long ago as the time of Edward 1., and, if our memory serve us, it is the very word em ployed by those great and acute l aw y ers , Si r Ed ward Coke and Sir Matthew Hale, in translating the pas sage in the earliest statute against the interference of Brands hommes at elections. The word " free" was employed in the Bill of flights to express in a single term the absence of everything that could improperly and unfairly operate upon the mind of the voter. We can perceive nothing indefinite in it; nor do we at all see, supposing it ever so ambiguous, in what way the remark of the Right lion. Gentleman applied to the question before the House. The ground he took, that leave ought to be given to introduce the Bill, in order that the House might see its details, was intelli gible enough ; but it was evident from the explanation of Mr. Slaney that his plan would accomplish nothing for the protection of the voter, while it might possibly be brought to bear severely against him. The discus sion was brief, but rather animated, and on a division there appeared— For bringing in the 8i11,~ Against it 23 Majority —27 On the motion of Sir W. Molesworth, a call of the Mouse was fixed for the 6th of March.—Morning Chronicle. borough—the one a nobleman, whose pecuniary com petency admits of Pro dispute, and the other an indivi dual who, notwithstanding his oath at the Speaker's table, is unable to establish a legal title to represent the constituency who have been gulled by his pretensions. To what extent Sir S. Whalley's insufficiency may be greater now than during the two preceding Parlia ments, in which he supplanted substantial gentlemen, or whether any means should be taken to make such an adventurer responsible for his impertinent as sumption of other people's rights, are questions which we leave to the solution of Sir 'William Horne. But the original injustice done to Lord Teignmouth and the Marylebone constituency, aggravated by the vexatious contest into which they are again plunged, cannot be so lightly disposed of. It now turns out, that in July last Mr. B. Hall and his Lordship, until the contrary be shown, were the only qua lified candidates ; and that the latter having polled nearly three thousand votes, had an undoubted legal right (though not till now established) to have been included in the return. Why Lord Teignmouth should for the present be excluded from a seat which, but for an unlawful intrusion, was already rightfully his, is what we cannot understand. All the sup porters of Whalley knew that their votes for th a t indi vidual were given under the usual risks and responsi bilities which pertain to the return of an unqualified candidate. They knew that in the event of a pro perty flaw on the part of their favourite, their choice would invalidated. But a new writ, it seems, is ac tually issued, and consequently a new trial of strength must again be resorted to. The struggle, it is unne cessary to say, will be a severe one ; nor is there the smallest hope for the constitutional cause, unless, (as in the case of the Burdett triumph at Westminster) the whole Conservative party in Parliament shall zealously support Lord Teignmouth's return, divide themselves into canvassing Committees, work night and day during the contest, and bring their entire 'Westminster experience to facilitate and secure the acquisition of this great metropolitan prize. Not an hour or a mo ment should be lost. One word to Lord Teignmouth's Committee. We know they will take in good part what we are about to say. Vor their diligence at the last election, their perfect organization as well as the ability of their general agency, we give them all man ner of credit. But let them learn wisdom from past experience. Let them keep a better watch at the poll ing-places, and interpose their protests against disqua lified voters with more vigour than they exercised on the former occasion. Let them mark on their lists the names of all the electors who are known to be disqua lified by removals or who are ascertaimed to be dead ; and let the Radicals who shall attempt to exercise an illegal franchise be publicly warned of their danger, and firmly resisted in their iniquity : let them be subjected to a thorough sifting and cross questioning at the poll. Moreover, the borough func tionaries must be compelled to listen to such reason able objections as may be tendered, and persons must be present who are prepared to substantiate them. We are credibly informed that nearly a thousand Radicals voted at the last election who had not the shadow of a right to do so. Now, Lord Teignmouth's Co:nmittec must really look to this. No doubt the efforts we are recommending will involve a good deal of trouble ; but the labourers in the cause of Conservatism will be richly compensated by the triumph which, in such cir cumstances, they cannot fail to achieve.—Times. ANCIENT NIANUSCRIPT OF THE GOSPELS.— The Rev. H. Todd gave lately to the Royal Irish Academy a short account of a manuscript of the Four Gospels, of the 7th century, and in Irish characters, which is preserved in the library of his Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury, at Lam beth. The volume is a small quarto, in the minute hand called Caroline, common to all Europe in the reign of Charlemagne, but now used only in Ireland, and known as the Irish charac ter. The present volume appears to have belonged to Mach brigid Mac Dornan, or Mac 'roman, who was Archbishop of Armagh in the ninth century, and died A. D. 923. By him it was probably sent to Athelstan, King of the Anglo-Saxons, who presented it to the city of Canterbury. These facts are inferred from an inscription in Anglo-Saxon characters (and in a hand of the 9th or beginning of the 10th century), which occurs on a blank page immediately following the genealogy in the first chapter of St. Matthew. The discovery of this manuscript and the satisfactory proof which facts afford of its Irish origin are important, as adding another to the many in stances with which we are already acquainted, of the em ployment of Irish scribes in the transcription of the Scriptures during the 6th and 7th centuries. It is now well ascertained that almost all the sacred books so highly venerated by the Anglo- Saxon church, and left by her early Bishops as heir looms to their respective sees, were obtained by Ireland or Irish scribes. POOR. LAW LOGIC.—At a recent meeting of the Poor-law Guardians, application was made by a woman, about 70 years of age, f or re li e f. I nqu i ry was ma d e w h at family she had. Her reply was that shu had two tons, one a shepherd, the other a labourer, and that they were very good to her in paying her rent. She was considered nol a fit object for re lief, on the ground that her sons ought to support her ; and a small allowance WV; made t , ) her, with the declaration that hsr eons' wages would be Attached for her support. Another woman of above 70 years of age also applied, who had a son , aho lodged in her house, who was not of good character. In t:lis case it was pronounced that the aged woman was not a fit object of relief, because she had this son under her roof ; and an allowance was made only on condition that she got rid of him So that it seems that aged and infirm people are equally unentitled to relief, if they have children, whether these be good or bad I—Lincoln Gazette. A melancholy event took place at the Circus Loiqset, at Brussels, a few nights back. In the pantomime of the Mort des Grecs, a soldier of the line employed in the theatre was killed by what appeared to be the top of a ramrod, discharged from a musket in the representation. His companions did not at first perceive that he was wounded until he fell, covered with blood, which flowed from the back cf his neck. The authorities, on an examination into this un fortunate catastrophe, were not able to discover from what negligence or carelessness it arose. The business o f b ot h H ouses, l ast n i ght, was of a miscellaneous description ; and was conducted in a gossipping fashion. Lord Brougham deserves great praise for the manner inwhicllhe c li ngs to the ques tion of slavery in all its departments, and for his refusal to allow Lord Glenelg, during the remaining period of his tenure of office, to convert the Colo nial office into a dormitory. In the House of Commons, Lord Maidstone gave notice, that he should to-night, put a question to Mr. O'Connell, as to the accuaacy of the expressions imputed to him, in the report of his speech at the Crown and Anchor, on the subiect of the election Committees now sitting. Daniel w il , of course, put in practice his familiar arts of shuffling and equivocation. He will deny that he used the objectionable words at all ; or he will al lege that he did not use them in any objectionable sense. Be will perhaps, a ccuse the reporters of be i ng " Tory perjurers :"--perhap s , he will declare the phrase to be ENGLISH MEDICALPRACTITIONERS INFRANCE. —Some time since proceedings were commenced against Englishmen practising in France, but were shortly afterwards suspended. They have been recently renewed, and in a ♦ery extraordinary manner. The Commissary of Police, with on• of his agents, without previous notice, has entered the different pharmacies or druggists' shops, and seized on the 61e of prescrip tions, on the evidence of which he has drawn up his pieces verbal, by which none have escaped- REMARKABLE LONGEVITY.--There were lately in the township of Wardleworth, ten persons (three males and seven females), receiving parochial relief, whose united ages amounted to 821 years.—Manchester Guardian. PoLITICO-POLEmics..lt appears that the Rev. Henry Irwin, a Minister of the Hi,gh Evangelical School, who officiates in a Church near Cullenswood, was selected to preach in Werburgh's Church, on Sunday last, in presence of his Excellency the Lord Lieutenant, and such was the paliti cal tenour of the discourse —so violent and vulgar in its party fanaticism—that the Cergyman and Churchwardens felt con. strained to address a fetter of apology to his Excellency. Such is the mode of showing forth spiritual-mindedness in in this new era of grace, --Irish Paper. vs . 4 IX ‘•_ THE SUN, LONDON, Fill DAY, FEBRUAItY 23, 1838. . Nii , '~►. COURT OF COMMON COUNCIL. (Concluded from our First Edition of yesterday.) PRESENTATION OF THE FREEDOM OF THE CITY TO ANDREW STEVENSON, ESQ., TILE AMERICAN MINISTER IN LONDON. At a former Cuurt the freedom of the City, to be presented in a geld box, of the value of 100 guineas, was unanimously agreed to be presented to the American ;Minister ; and a De putation, consisting of Sir J. Duke, Mr. Alderman Harmer, and several members of the Court were appinted a deputation to wait upon him for that purpose. The answer of the Minister to the deputation was now read. It was couched in very grateful terms for the honour proposed to be conferred on him, but regretted that he was cor,..y,lled to decline that honour, as the laws of his country forbade Isis receiving any valuable presents. Mr. Under. Sheriff WIRE, said that as the American Minister could not accept the freedom of the city in the man ner offered, he should propose that th• resolution of that Court be engrossed on vellum, and framed and glazed, and pre sented to him in the usual manner. A very long and animated discussion ensued, which it is imrssible we can find room to give at length. The motion was opposed by Mr. Heppe', Sir P. Laurie, Deputy Corney, &c. At length, at the suggestion of Mr. Alderman Harmer, Mr. Wire withdrew the original resolution, and proposed in its stead, that " the resolution of the Court, with respect to the freedom of the City being presented to the American Minister, and the answer of the Minister to the Deputation appointed to wait upon him, ho advertised in the usual daily journals." Th . ° question, on being put, was earried unanimously. ELECT lON COMMITTEES. (Continued from our First Edition of yesterday.) IPSWICH. . The Committee struck off ti;;;;Ote of Mr. Notcutt, Town Clerk, and Deputy 14fayor. Mr. Kelly was now in a majority of one. The Liberals then objected to the vote of a person whose wife had received parochial relief. The arguments were not finished when it was announced that Mr. Speaker was at prayers. most important question.—(Hear, hear.) I mean an Act which goes to revive the slave trade on a large scale --the Order in Council issued by her Majesty on (as we t understood) the sth of July. The Noble and Learned Lord ' then gave notice that he should move for a Copy of any despatch which had been sent out to the Governor of Guiana touching the said order, and also the date when the order appeared in the London Gazette. He had no hesitation in stating that he expected that the return would Le nil, for be believed tl.at the Order was never published in the Gazelle. He had twice before urged the subject upon the consideration of their Lordships, and therefore they could not now say that they were taken unprepared. He had stated his reasons for being most averse to it, and if the Order in Council to which he alluded were in existence, nothing he could foresee would prevent his taking the sense of the House on the issue and expediency of recalling that Order. The Duke of WELLINGTON hoped the Noble and Learned Lord would postpone his motion, as he would not be in town on the day he had named. Lord BROUGHAM said there was no person where con venience, whether public or private, he would mere cheerfully l e s o is ns o u p lt in t i h o a n n s th on at t o i f ie th s e nb N je o c b t le as Dnke of the e bec g a r te e es ate l s a t e led upon ortanco Whatever day the Noble Duke named he would readily as sent to. The Duke of WELLINGTON named Friday week. Lord G L ENE LG, as we understood, objected to so early a day being named, as there were several documents to be laid upon the table. Lord BROUGHAM could see no objection to the slay that had been named. The papers were merely Orders in Council, and could not be very voluminous. Lord GLENELG would observe, that with respect to the last Order in Council, it had never been inserted in the Ga zette, and he would add that it had never been the habit to in sert these Orders. Lord BROUGHAM—Then a worse habit in not inserting those laws where the Crown was legislating fur a remote part of the globe, without any knowledge of Parliament, he could not possibly imagine. The consequence was, that 200 vessels were employed in the slave-trade. Had he seen that Order in the Gazette, be would immediately have brought the subject under the consideration of their Lordships. His Noble Friend was perfectly free from all blame, as he had merely followed precedent ; but where the vast interests and properties of persons in these colonies were so deeply concerned, it was not too much to ask that these laws should be made public. Lord ELLE NB ORO UG H would move for an account of all the vessels which had been captured by British cruisers for the violation of the regulation with respect to the slave trade ; and he would beg to ask the Noble Baron (Glenelg) when he intended to bring in his Bill for the purpose of carrying into real operation the intentions of Parliament with respect to the abolition of the Slave-trade, and he would ask him fur. ther, whether it was his intention to bring the Bill into that House or the other House in the first instance ? Lord GLENELG replied, very shortly. It had not yet been decided in which House the Bill should be introduced. Lord ELLE NB ORO UG 1-1—" Very shortly" were awful words in the vocabulary of the Noble Lord.—( Hear, hear, hear.) It meant four months in dispatches which discussing w s h a i was sh n e o c reason ana d discussiona it ld e e Bill.—(Loud c r i es o f " H ear , h ea r.") E v ery hour of bdwvfl hadv:lli bring wi y th ths?, e hha—e n seo Buwan House iootnstue u ri p lon o o vfnf permitted dsl crime.eer.w at e T Lord BROUGHAM s i their There BROUGHAMentreated of his Noble Friend to ill as n w o t i t theire u delay.provin ce t Could o le g i n s l o a t t e t h u a p t o n li t o h u n s t e l d i e n a d l of subject ? If it were brought into the other House of Par liament, from the quantity of business to be disposed of there, it would come up at a time when all the mischief had been done. He would give notice, in order to quicken the production of the Bill, that if within a week the Bill was not introduced, he (Lord B.) would present his Bill. He was in possessien of the subject—his resolutions were before the House—and he had withdrawn them to give the Noble Lord an opportunity of bringing forward his measure. If, however, he found that the Noble :Lord, in stead of taking up his resolutions, sent them to another place, where he could neither trust to Lord John This, nor Mr. Spring That—(Great laughter)—if he found that the Noble Lord sent the resolutions among strangers, and for aught he (Lord Brougham) knew, enemies—(Renewed laughter)—he would take care of his resolutions and bring them in himself. Lord GLENE L G observed that the resolutions had not yet been two months before the House. Lord BROUGHAM considered two months a long time to prepare a Bill of that sort. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented a petition from the prisoners in the Queen's Bench, praying for the abolition of the punishment of imprisonment for debt. PARLIAMENTARY ELECTORS' BILL. - The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said, that he would take that opportunity of stating that it had been his inten tion to give notice that he should move the second reading of the Parliamentary Electors Bill in the course of next week; but in consequence of the conversation that bad taken plaee that evening, ho should not more the second reading till that day fortnight. BISHOPRIC OF SODOR AND MAN. BELFAST. The votes of John M'Loghlen, Robert Wilson, and Robert Murray, were objected to by Counsel for petitioners on the ground of insufficiency of value, and were struck off by the Committee. This made a total of ten votes struck off the poll of the sitting Members. The Committee rose at half-past three. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, FRB. 22. The LORD CIIANCELLOR took his seat on the Woolsack at Five o'Clock. Mr. CRAWFORD attended from the Treasury, and presented papers. Lord CAMDEN presented a petition from the Chancellor, Masters, and Scholars of the University of Cambridge against the suppression of the Bishopric of Sodor and Man. The Bishop of LONDON presented a petition frera cer tain clergy to the same effect. The Duke of WELLINGTON presented a similar peti tion from the Chancellor, Masters, and Scholars of the Uni versity of Oxford. On the motion of Earl SHAFTESBURY, the House re solved itself into a Committee on the Exchequer Bills Bill. The House resumed. The Bill was reported without amendments, and ordered to be read a third time tomorrow. Oa the motion if the Earl of SH AFTE SBURY the House resolved itself into a Committee on the Extent in Aids Bill. The House resumed. The Bill was reported without amendments, and ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. Lord GODERICH presented a great number of petitions, which he would not occupy the time of the House by enume rating, from Clergymen, Corporate Bodies, and others, against the suppression of the Bishopric of Sodor and Man. One of the petitions was from the inhabitants of the Isle of Man itself, signed by 730 inhabitants, and which was, as it were, a sequel to the petition which he had presented from the same place in December last, making from the Isle of Man a total number of petitioners of between 2,000 and 3,000. Lord ASHBURTON presented a petition from the Pro vost and others of Perth, in favour of a reduction of the rate of postage. Lord RADNOR presented a petition from the Town Council and others of (as we understood) Carlisle, praying for Vote by Ballot. THE ANNANDALE PEERAGE. Lord HADDINGTON presented a petition from his Hon. Friend and relative, Mr. Hope Johnstone, who had been long a claimant for the Earldom of Annandale. Last year he had presented a similar petition, and then Sir Frederick Jehnstono presented a petition for further delay. That additional delay had been granted, but *no step had been taken by Sir Frederick. Mr. Hope John stone now prayed that the House would be pleased to take the premises into its consideration, and proceed farther in his claim, a. that judgment might be pronounced therein. It was now four years since he had brought forward his claim, and he hoped further delay would not now be granted. Lord BROUGHA NI stated that when ho heard this case, as he did very fully, he stated an opinion on the subject, but he also stated that he could not satisfactorily dispose of it, by advising their Lo-dships one way or the other, until he had ascertained whether the Peerage Law only affected dignities. Afterwards, upon con sulting with some of the most eminent Scotch Judges, he found that it would not only affect dignities, but also real estate, which presented to his mind a point of the utmost importance ; thereforo he felt that he could not dispose of it until after it was heard again. It was now four years since ho heard it, and he agreed with his Noble Friend opposite that Mr. Hope Johnstone ought not to be further de layed. The Earl of RIPON, upon the order of the day for the second reading of the Bishopric of Sodor and Man Bill, said that he understood the Right Rev. Prelate opposite had had a communication from several of the Clergy and inha bitants of that island, which he had thought proper to lay be fore the Commissioners, who, after having taken those com munications into consideration, had come to the re solution to abstain from recommending that that Bishopric should be joined with Carlisle. lie (Lord Ripon) rejoiced the Commissioners had come to this decision ; first, because he thought that it was but right and just ; and, secondly, be cause he felt convinced it would be more agreeable to the generality of persons throughout the country, and would be productive of the best results to the country at large. Since he (the Earl of Ripon) had last brought this subject under the notice of the House, the late Bishop of this diocese (Sodor and Man) had ceased to exist. That excellent Pre late had with great zeal pursued this object, and he had been gratified in his last moments by the sanguine NEGRO SLAVERY. hope of its success. He (the Earl of Ripon) had on a former Lord DEMNAN presented a petition, agreed to at a pub- occasion stated what this Prelate had done for the promotion lic meeting of the inhabitants of Newark, against negro of religion and education in the island, and how largely apprenticeship in th e w est Ind i es. Th e Petitioners he had contributed from his limited means towards these stated that they thought that the money which had sacred purposes. He had then stated that the Bishop had been paid to slave-owners had been thrown away, and that the contributed 1,2001. for these objects ; but since then he ( Lord system of slavery had been only aggravated by the conduct Ripon) had ascertained that he should be under the pursued since. mark in stating the amount at 2,0001.—( Hear.) And Lord BROUGHAM said he held in his hand a petition, he might mention it as a circumstance worthy of remark, that which gave him very great pleasure and some pride to present, the last act of the Bishop, in his ecclesiastical capacity, had signed by between 5,000 and 6,000 (and might have been been to make himself responsible for a subscription towards signed by . 50,000 or 60,000 if time had been given), chiefly augmenting the incomes of the poorer clergy in his diocese. of the principal merchants of the town and port of Liverpool, An opportunity had occurred very recently of making against negro slavery. When he recollected that the a purchase of an additional piece of land when mcrehante of that town appeared as petitioners at their tageously to the diocese. There was a difficulty in Lordships' bar against regulating the space between the decks raising the money, but that Right Reverend Prelate, of the slave trader, on the ground that such regula- considering that the sacred cause of his flock was superior to tion would ruin them, and afterwards heard at the bar the interests of his own family, did not hesitate to give against abolishing the trade of negro slavery, on the ground his assurance that the rensainder of the money should be paid. that such abolition would ruin them, it was most delightful to Though he, from his generous habits, left no legacies to his find that their views had so altered, and their minds become family, yet he had left a legacy to the island, and a le now so enlightened as to cause them to approach their Lord- gacy to their Lordships' House, which legacy was this Bill ships with one voice, without a dissentient voice, praying that he now begged leave to move the second reading of. the House to put an entire end to Slavery. —(Eiear- ) The Archbishop of CANTERBURY had great pleasure The Nonle Lord also pres e nted similar petitions from Stroud, in adding his testimony to all that the Noble Lord who had just Bath, Bideford, Credit on , Bradford, Haverfordwest, 'river- sat d own h a d sa id, i n f avo ur of the piety, the zeal, the ac ti v i ty ton, Dungannon, and Wycombe Brook. The Noble Lord in the management of his diocese of the deceased individual, also presented four p e titi ons f rom t h e parish of St. Mark's, and above all to his attention to the interests of educ a ti on . Dublin, against tithes, in favour of Municipal Reform, an If he were to attempt to specify his contributions, he was quite Extension of the Suff rage , an d V ote by Ballot. Also a Peti- sure that theywould certainly exceed all those of his predecessors. a tition from P a i s l ey for repeal of the C o rn Laws; from St. Some days ago he stated that ho had had a communication Mark's, Dubli n , f or an equ it a bl e a ssessment to the Irish from the island informing him that proceedings were going poor; also a petiti on f rom c u p ar in Fife against any on which might lead to a satisfactory adjustment of the further endo wment to the Church of Scotland. The question. He had since received a communication from the Noble Lord seeing th e s ecre t ar y o f State for the Co lonies Counc i l , stat in g t heir desire of retainin g a B i shop , which they in his place, wished to p u t t o hi m the question wh ich felt perhaps the more stro n g l y f rom their r egard to the memory he asked the other right, relative to the Proclamation issued of the late Bishop. They had proposed a commutation ef 1 by the Governor of the Leeward Islands, to convene meetings tithes, which would enable them to effect the purposes they fur sending Deputies to take into consideration the amendment had in view, with respect to certain alterations in the distribu of the laves of those Islands. He (Lord B.) understood that tion of tithes between the Bishop and the clergy of the island. this step had been resorted to under the authority of two Acts They would undoubtedly reduce the bishopric in value ; but of Parliament, one passed in 1604, and the other in the the arrangement would leave a very competent income to year 1705. Now he ( Lord B.) had received information the Bishop, and a competent maintenance fur the clergy. from some of the natives of those Islands, that those Acts To the general object of the Commission, it was indifferent had been for a long time obsolete, and they looked upon whether the Bishopric was retained or not ; there was the course adopted by the Governor with great alarm. The no part of the kingdom to be affected by it, but the conduct of that officer might be extremely proper, bat he island alone ; and there the eighteen parishes would have wished to know from the Noble Lord whether he had any in- the s uperintendence of their Bishop, who would according structions from the Government upon the subject. If any to their ancient Constitution continue to take part in the correspondence had taken place, perhaps the Noble Earl proceedings of their Legislature. But it was of the utmost would have no ob je c tion to lay it on the table. importance that a better distribution of dioceses,should be ef. Lord GLENE LG said that last year Sir W. Colebrook fectcd : and if the measures of the Commission for that pur (as we understood,) the Governor of the Leeward Islands, on e should be infri n g ed u p on, their labours would be coin stated in a communication to the C o l on i a l Offi ce t h a t P ara tively useless. He shoul d g ive his su pp ort to the Bill. it would be desirable to call a G enera l Assembly that the P The Bishop of EXETER approved of the Bill, but fele Leeward and Windward Isl ands un der the Act of 1705, under bound to deprecate the constitution of the Ecclesiastical Com which a common assembly of the same kind was called in 179 8 . mission, which he considered was derogatory to the dignity of Lord BROUGHAM—Was Dominica included in the the Church. summons? sGLENELG replied that Do m i n i ca was expressly The Bishop of LONDON defended the course of conduct Lord pursued were excluded in the communication he had received. He (L or d G•) the in reply, informed Sir William t Colebro o k e t h at he thought h e lineby en thens constituted, Church th C e o c m o m m i m ss i i s o si n o e n rs e . rs By eon t ld he n Antct stephy whichoutof marked out for them. It was imposs i b le for the Com it very desirable that such a general meeting should *ssioners, constituted as thee were, to originate any measures take place, as there were many questions of common in- letin the Established Church. All that they could do was to terest, in the consideration of which all the islands might advantageously be represented. But there were two ques- law. A Commission was appointed lions for' him to determine before he took anyof the revenues of the Established Church. step. whole question a earry into g effect that which theirLo t r o d t s a h k ip e s ir d a e n te e r n i n ia s i i n d e e d ra to tie b n et t h h e e The first was, whether, under that Act such, a meet i ng could legally be summoned. The next was, whether it was m i v Tho chief objection to the first Commission was expedient to do so—that is, whether there were circumstances --a J t ' st- ' too few in number, but the reason of selecting . a to justify the calling of a Common Assembly, and on those that it was for the greater facility of doing business with That Commission became extinct on the demise of his late small number was points, he (Lord Glenelg) told him to consult the law-t o h I ear, their h Lord did d " -) officers of the Crown in the Island. The Governor did so, and in reply communicated to the Colonial Office that felt satisfied that the Commission would be the law officers of the islands were of opinion that it would productiveahiP' of no advantage. a l i e C t o h m obu m egt i ha s Commission because he righth e s o constituted.—(Cries st offer itut e t d h . e T e ( observationsec g ‘‘ be perfectly legal to summon the Assembly under the Act Til • Bishop of E X ETE R e x p lained —He thought the power alltnled to, and that lie himself (Sir W. Coleb roo k) was o f e ed on the Commissioners was most uncalled for by the opinion that it was highly advisable to do so, and he accord- conferred of the case. He believed it to be ono of the greatest ingly issued a proclamation for the purpose ; but with respect to Dominica, the Governor was told that that repel the charge that had been Church. He begged to island could not be included, but that with respect to t . against him by the Right Rev. Prolate who had last it some other measures must be taken. The Council spoken. bellows that had ever been aimed at the independence of the of Assembly of Antigua, however, in answer to the Message The Bishop of LONDON explained. He denied having from the Governor, refused to issue the necessary , writs ; and as it was necessary, under the Act, that at: MELBOURNE thought it unnecessary, after what should concur, the refusal of Antigua suspeenied the whole Lord had passed, to enter upon any defence of the Board. It was proceeding. Lord ICRO UGH A M said the answer was quite satis the L eg i s l ature s made any insinuation against the Right Reverend Prelate. now that . the question had been settled, that it le n ' ot be lightly disturbed. Ile trusted that further but that from reading the proclamation it did not ,its should appear q, c h an ges would not now be attempted, and if they were, he clear whether Dominica was included or not. .wish to see Lord BROUGHAM then said—My Lords; I give •,, then read 1 • ~ " ectory, desiriadb notice that on Tuesday next I shall submit a proposition to The uld f eß o i l n it w l as iis t i n li e i n ty r t e o n( re a sis s t ee t o h n e t rei t . nne. •se adjourned at twenty-five minutes to seven. your Lordships, for the purpose of taking your opinion upon a The Hen._ HO USE OP COMMONS, FRR. 22. In consequence of the ballots for Youghal and Tynemouth the gallery was not opened till half-past Four. TOWCESTER AND BURLINGTON ROADS BILL. On the motion of Sir C. KNIG HTL E Y this 13111 was read a second time. Mr. S. LEFEVRE observed that there was a very ob jectionable clause in it, imposing high tolls on vehicles, which he should oppose on the third reading, if not struck out before the Bill arrived at that stage. SODOR AND MAN. _ Lord JERMYN presented a petition from forty clergymen the town and neighbourhood of Bury St. Edmund's, against be abolition of the Sec of Sodor and Man. NEGRO APPRENTICESHIP. _ _ Petitions against the system of Negro Apprenticeship, and )raying for its termination on the Ist of August, were presented )y Mr. Barneby, from Broadway; by Sir George Strickland, from Bradford, in Wiltshire ; and by Mr. Wood, from a parish in Lancashire. POST HORSE DUTY. Mr. HANDLE Y presented a petition from the Postmasters on the Great Northern line of road praying for the reduction of the duty on Post horses. NEW POOR LAW. Petitions against the Poor Law Amendment Act were presented by Mr. GRIMSDITCH, from Macclesfield; and by Mr. W. TURNER, from Bracebridge. Mr. DUGD AL E presented a petition from a place in Warwickshire, the name of which we could not catch, against the suppression of the Sec of Sodor and Man. POOR RELIEF (IRELAND) BILL. Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL presented petitions fr, in parishes in the county of Kerry, against several of the provisions of the proposed Poor-law for Ireland, and in particular against th e clauses excluding Cl e rgymen from being appointed members of the B )ard of Guardians, against the appointment of Magistrates ex officio members of the Board, and against the rate-paying clauses of the Bill, which they considered burthensome and oppressive. Lord RAYLEIGH presented petitions from Witham, Chelmsford, Romford, Tendring, Rockford, and Halstead, in Essex, in favour of the landlords of small tenements being rated, instead of the occupiers. Mr. E. ELLICE presented petitions from places in Fifeshire, against any further endowment to the Church of Scctland. ..... Mr. KINNAIRD presented petitions to the same effect from Perth. Mr. WILBERFORCE presented a petition from the Chamber of Commerce of Hull, praying for a reduction of the duty on Marine Insurances. Mr. HAL SE presented a petition from Bishop Stortford in favour of the abolition of Negro Apprenticeship. Captain EGERTON presented a petition from Chester against the Poor-law Bill. Mr. NV. PATTEN presented a petition from Lancashire against the abolition of the Bishopric of Sodor and Man. Sir J. HOB HOUSE presented a petition from the Cham ber of Commerce of Nottingham, against the Stamp Duty on Marine Insurances. Sir R. INGLIS presented petitions from different parts of Oxfordshire, and from certain parties residing in Mauritius, in favour of the claim of the Baron de Bode. The Hon. Baronet then presented a petition from an individual of the name of Owen, claiming compensation out of the French Compensa tion Fund. The Hon. Baronet also presented a petition from the Clergy of Shrewsbury, against the abolition of the bishop ric of Sodor and Man. Lord SANDON presented a petition from 8,000 inhabi tants of Liverpool, praying for an immediate abolition of the system of Negro Apprenticeship in the West Indies. TYNEMOUTH ELECTION COMMITTEE. The Clerk of the Committees then appeared at the bar, and handed in the reduced list of Members to servo on the Tynemouth Election Committee. The following are the names: George Poulett Scrope, Hon. Geo. Anson, Walter Frede rick Campbell, Right Hon. Henry Labouchero, and Charles Denham Blandon Jcpbson, Liberals; Henry Gally Knight, William Dowdeswell, Lord Viscount Adore, Wm. Edward Powell, Chas. Baring Wall, and . Lord Viscount Clive, Tories. Liberals, and 6 Tories. Colonel WILLIAMS presented petitions front several Dissenting Congregations in Abergavenny, praying for the entire emancipation of the negroes. DANISH CLAIMS. Mr. AGLIONBY presented a petition from the ship owners of Maryport in favour of the Danish claims. TRADES UNIONS. Mr. SHAW presented a petition from operatives of Dublin, denying the imputations which had been cast upon th e ir Tra j des' Unions, and praying for inquiry. The Honourable Member was very indistinctly heard, by reason of the noise in the House ; but be was understood to present also a petition against the Irish Municipal Bill. YOUGHAL ELECTON. The Clerk of Committees gave in the revised list of the Members ballottad to inquire into the petition against the return for the borough of Youghal, as follows : Lord Ernest Bruce, Hon. A. H. A. Cooper, Lord Vis count Northland, the Marquis of Granby, lion. H. B. Lygon, and John Young, Tories; Hon. C. IN. D. Dundas, Hon. J. G. C. F. Strangways, Richard Walker, the Earl of Surrey, and Charles Standish, Liberals.-6 Tories, and 5 Liberals. Mr. SHAW asked a question as to the intention of the Go vernment, in regard to the Royal Hospital, Dublin, to which Lord HOWICK made a reply, which was quite inaudible in the Gallery. MR. O'CONNELL.—TORY COMMITTEES. Lord MAIDSTONE said he was sorry not to sec the Hon. aid Learned Member for Dublin in his place, as he wished to put a question relative to something which the Hon. and Learned Member had been represented as having uttered at the dinner given to him last evening at the Crown and Anchor regarding Election Committees of that House, and be (Lord M.) hoped the Hon. and Learned Member would afford hint an early opportunity of putting the question.__ (Loud cheers from the Opposition benches.) IRISH GRAND JURIES. Colonel VERNER moved for leave to bring in a Bill empowering the foreman, or any other member of Grand Juries in Ireland, to administer oaths to witnesses on bills of indictment.—( Hear, hear.) He had communicated his intention of introducing this Bill to the Right Honour able Gentleman, the Attorney-General for Ireland, and he had instructed him to say that it met with his entire approval, and that it should have his full co-operation in endeavouring to pass it through that House. Under those circumstances, and anticipating that there would be no opposition to the Bill, it was unnecessary for him to do more than to move for leave to bring it in ; but if any Hon. Member wished for farther explanations upon his part respecting the Bill, he should be happy to enter more fully into details. After a few words from Lord MORPETH, approving of the measure, leave was given to bring in the Bill. Lord MAIDSTONE gave notice of his intention of put ting to-morrow the question to Mr. O'Connell which he had before alluded to, relative to the speech of that lion. Member at the Crown and Anchor..--(Loud cries of .4 llear, hear," from the Opposition benches.) FRENCH CLAIMS. Mr. MACKINNON rose to bring forward the motion of which he had given notice, relative to the claims of Mr. Darcy Talbot, on the French Compensation Fund. On a former occasion, he had an opportunity of expressing his senti ments fully on this subject. It was not his inten tion to detain the House by entering at any length into the merits of the case; but he would observe that it was by no means a question of a political nature, and the only object he ( Mr. M'Kinnon) had in view in bringing it forward was to obtain justice for the individual in question. As several Hon. Members now present were not in the House when he brought the subject forward last Session, he should endeavcur, in a few words, to state the claims which Mr. Darcy Talbot had upon the consideration of the House.—(Cries of Hear.) In 1793, the French Government had confiscated all the Bri tish property in France, and in 1815, in pursuance of a treaty, it was stipulated that the claims of British subjects which could be substantiated should be compensated. For that purpose a certain number of Commissioners were named in Paris and London to take the matter into consideration, and at a sub sequent period it was deemed advisable that a sum of money should be granted for the purpose of liquidating those claims. In consequence of circumstances, which it was unnecessary now to refer to, Mr. Talbot was unable to bring forward evidence in support of his 'claims before the Commissioners. At a subsequent period another Board of Commissioners was appointed to take into consideration all the claims which, upon technical objections, had not been considered by the former Board. To these Commissioners Mr. Talbot applied, and he was told they would not take Isis claim into tonsiderseion, unless he signed an agreement to the effect that he would be satisfied with their award. At first he declined ac ceding to this unjust proposal, but being driven by the exigencies of the case, he was obliged to ac cede to their demands and sign the paper. When they got his signature, they pretended to take his case into consideration, and paid to Mr. Talbot, not the principal of the amount to which he was entitled, bat simply the interest. Now, he ( Mr. Mackinnon) would submit to the House, that if Mr. Talbot was entitled to the interest of the demand, he was entitled to the principal also ; and he hoped the Chancellor of the Exchequer would allow it to go before a Committee of the House. Independent of these considerations, be begged to recal to the attention of the House that the Right lion. Gentleman, wh en in opposition, was of the opi nion which lie (Mr. Mackinnon) now stated, and distinctly gave ' to the House his advice that the claims should be admitted. The claims of Mr. Talbot were rejected on mere technical grounds—the Commissioners said they could not entertain them because his application was made too late. That would have been a very good answer to the claims, had there been none of the money received from the French Government remain ing unappropriated. But there was a sum of between 200,0001. and 300,000/. in the hands of the Treasury which, if the House did not interfere, would be appropriated in some other way.—(Hear, hear, from the Chancellor of the Excise quer.) He was glad to hear the cheer of the Right Hon. Gentleman, and he trusted that it was an augury that he would grant the Committee which he sought. As this was the last time this 'object would be brought before the House by him, it was his intention to take the sense of the House upon the motion ho should make..---( Hear.) What would be thought :of a private individual in whose hands a sum of money had been placed for the purpose of paying off certain elehts, if that individual pleaded the Statute of Limitations as a bar to claim, and afterwards pocketed the money ? Such, however, had b een the conduct of the Government, because there were between 200,0001. and 300,0001. of that remain ing unappropriated. He hoped the Chancellor of the Exchequer would allow this claim to come under the con sideration of a Committee of the House, because in point of justice, and in point of honourable feeling towards -those who had been unjustly deprived of their rights, it was such a claim as the House ought to entertain, The Hon. Member then moved that a Select Commutes be appointed for the purpose of trAtino. into consideration the ciaims on the French Compensation ° Fund. Mr. MORGAN JOHN O'CONNELL seconded the motion. _ The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the lien. Member was in error as to the main point upon which be dwelt—that there was between 200.000/. and 300 000/1. of this fund unappropriated; he (the Chancellor of the Ex chequer) corild give to this statement the most unequivocal contradiction. The way in %%Melt the matter really rested was this:—there was a balance of the French Indemnity Fund which had been applied by the Government of Lord Liverpool—the Treasury having by law the full disposal of the funds—towards the erection of a Royal Palace. Subsequently this appropriation was found to be objec tionable, and the money repaid by the Woods and Forests; and afterwards, first by the Government of the Duke of Wellington, and then by a decision of Lord Spencer, it was appropriated under the sanction of a Judicial Com• mittere, investigating claims, and deciding upon evidence. tribunal was appointed for the investigation of these cases, which was of the nature of a Board of Reference, in order that the time and resources of the parties might not be wasted in useless litigation. It consisted of a mercantile gentle man conversant with accounts, and two distinguished law yers. It was recommended by the Treasury, in order that their decision should be final, that the same course should be adopted as was usual in cases of arbitration between gentle men—namely, that the parties should all sign a deed of sub mission, aerceing, to abide by their award. Now, there was not one of the claimants who did not sign the deed, not except ing even Mr. D'Arcy Talbot himself. No one compla ined ' of the injustice or hardship of it at the time. When the Hon. Member brought forward a motion upon this subject last ses sion, Mr. D'Arcy Talbot had not informed him of the exist ence of this deed, or of its having been signed by him ; and when he, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, mentioned the fact to time Ilense, it was deemed perfectly con clusive, and the House negatived the motion. Why w as the Honourable Gentleman not informed by Mr. Talbot that such an instrument had been entered into? The motion was made in 1837. The agreement was signed in 1836, or in 1335 ; but Mr. Talbot got a gentleman:to bring his case for werd in the House of Commons, and yet concealed from that Hon. Gentleman what was the substance of the case. The Honourable Gentleman would have the House to believe that there were unappropriated funds, and that it would be cruel to exclude Mr. Talbot front them. There were no unappropriated funds—they were appropriated to parties who were entitled to claim under the minutes. He rested his ob jections on these grounds. The gentleman had been twice heard ; he had been heard before a Committee appointed ex pressly to consider his case; that Committee determined against him. He signed a paper agreeing to be bound by their decision, and to consider it as final ; and yet, contrary to that decision, he now appealed to the House. He trusted the House would put a decided negative on the motion. Mr. PR AE D considered the explanation of the Right lion' the Chancellor of the Exchequer very unsatisfactory. li e could not conceive any case where a party could be entitled to the interest upon a debt, and not to the principal. He confessed, also, that ho would like to see some evidence as to the circumstances under which the agreement signed by Mr. Talbot was obtained front him. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said tha t such agreement was not a singular one in the case of Mr' Talbot—it was enforced by the Commissioners in the terms of the Treasury Commission under which they acted, from every claimant. Mr. MACKINNON said that for the reason he had for merly given he would divide the House upon his motion. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw. The House divided, and the numbers were— For the motion 52 . . Against it lOl Majority against Mr. Mackinnon's motion SALMON FISHERIES (IRELAND.) Upon our re-entering the Gallery we found— Colonel CONOLL Y moving for leave to brine . in 11 Bill for the protection of the Salmon Fisheries of Ireland. By the former Act, 4th Geo. IV., the police were prevented from affording any assistance in the cases of Irish fisheries. Now the object of this Bill was to enable the police to detain the parties arrested for offences against the Act in custody until they found sufficient bail, as by the enactment the only remedy was a distress to levy the fin° imposed, which often led to disturbances. The object of the se cond clause of the Bill was to prevent the destruction of sa lmon, tie until they came within the boundaries of the several prop er s which enjoyed the right of the fishery by charter or otherwize. The benefit which would result from the clause was ma nifest, as it was well known that extensive depredations had bee n com mitted on the north and west coasts of Ireland, and he f o rmer had suffered largely by them. These were the main securds,_l! which he proposed to establish by the Bill—the other ch!ns_e: were merely subsidiary to them. He hoped that li e had tisfied the House of the necessity of the measure, an d that thea, would now permit him to bring in the Bill. Lord MORPETH did not mean then to offer any °P t ; position to the motion, nor did he intend to discuss the men of the measure. It was certainly desirable that th e salmon fishing of Ireland should receive protection in the se , " manner as that of Scotland, legislation on which subject was then going on.—( Hear, hear.) He was glad to see that provision which prohibited the police from being gatne or fish keepers.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. ROCHE was of opinion that the Bill would prove a great benefit to Ireland. Mr. O'CONNELL begged to call the attention of the Honourable Member for 'Donegal to the opposition lie was likely to receive from the mercantile interest s, unless in his Bill lie steered clear of their interests in such rivers as the Liffey. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCIIEQMER the slightest intention of opposing the Bill ; on the contra9'; he was glad the subject was brought under the notico of the House.—( Hear, hear.) As it would be a matter considerable detail, he would suggest to the Honoura.ifil and Gallant Member, whether it would not be better to re cr it to a Select Committee. bad not After a few words in reply from Colonel CONOLLY, leave was given to bring in the Bill. BARON DE BODE'S CLAIMS. c all Mr. WARBURTON then rose, pursuant to notic e, to ßo the attention of the llouse, to the petition of Baron de do d ! and Robert Bruce, which he had presented to the H ouse a former occasion, relative to their claims on the F r ench . I_ demnity Fund. He intended to move that a Select C ommttcn he appointed for the purpose of inquiring into these elai.n! The Committee which had investigated this subject on a for mer occasion had recommended that this course should be adopted. The Hon. Member then entered into a lengthocu statement of the facts and circumstances of the cas e which had been brought forward in succession by Mr. Little ton, Lord Stanley, Mr. Ilill, of Hull (the latter during t" sessions), and Mr. Gisborne. The C o mmittee formerly al ) ": pointed had recommended the Baron to bring forward proofs In support of his claims, which had led him into an expend s " ture of not much less than three thousand pounds. The father of the Baron was a German Nobleman, who had held a com mand of cavalry in the French service, had emigrated to England, and married an heiress—a lady of distinguished fa mily in Staffordshire—and had invested the greater part of lair fortune in the purchase of a fief in Alsace. When the Frenc h Revolution broke out the Baron's father, to evade the effect of the decree for the abolition of feudal tenures , adopted the practice resorted to by many, of making out a deed of gift to the next heir male (the present Baron), which he executed in the most formal manner in open Court, the documents proving which had been laid before the Select Committee of the House of Commons. The Baron's father emigrated from Alsace in 1793. with all his family, to Russia, and died in 1797. The abandonment of his domicile was considered sufficient legal proof to warrant the seizure of the property, and the revolution ary authorities immediately took possession, and confiscated it accordingly. The present Baron (who was born in F,ngland)had the command of the Russian troops on the march to Paris in 1814, when he heard of the convention promulgated for the benefit of British subjects "unduly confiscated subsequent to the Ist of January, 1793," and hastened to lay his claims before the French Minister for Foreign Affairs (the Duke de Richelieu). Various difficulties were thrown in the way of recognition of the Baron's right as a British subject, and it was not till the establishment of the British Commission, in 1816, that his name was decidedly placed on the list for compensation , but it was not till the 23d of August, 1821, that lie received lull communication from the Commissioners respecting the nature of the proofs they would receive to enable him to substantia to his claims. He then found that a special objection w as taken Al" to his case, as it was alleged that his father's property in l sacs did not come within the apeeification of , ‘British pro perty unduly confiscated subsequent to the Ist of January , 1793," although the d ecree o f t h e C on vention against that description of property was dated the 10th of October, 1793" At the time the Commissioners rejected the claim of 13ar l o i n s de Bode it appeared th a t tile Baron himself was out of ir country, and no opportunity was given him to explain , re ° u contradict the evidence adduced against him. It a pp e that papers, of the utmost importance to the Baron de De"' f claim, had been abstracted from amongst the official papers o f the Commissioners, and given to the Chancellor of the Ex el.equer at the time. Nothing could be more like tampering.. with justice than the loss of those papers in the Chancellor of the Exchequer's Office. The CHANCELLOR of the li,XCHEQUER said that it might be seen from the statement of the Hon. Gentleman and the dates he had mentioned that the loss of the papers took place in the time that E ar l Sp enc er was Chancellor or the Exchequer, and that the transaction applied to his Lord ship's office; whereas it was to him (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) that it applied, bat it was when he was Secre tary to the Treasury. Mr. WARBURTON did not intend to apply personal blame to any one; liut he should wish to have those papers produced which the Committee called for, but which never could be brought forward. He (Mr. Warburton) considered that the Baron was entitled to have his claims fairly argued before a proper legal tribunal. With respect to the amount claimed he would say no more than that Mr. Finlayion, the actuary, had made a calculation that about 300,000/. was the sum. The lion. Member then moved for a " Select Com mittee to inquire further into the case of the Baren de Bode." Mr. HAVES seconded the motion. Mr. RICH rose to oppose the motion. He cams forward on the pr esen t occas i on i n consequence o f hi s h av i ng t a ken all active part in the investigations respecting the French Corpen action Fund, and could state to the House that two hundred and fifty persons had proved their right to compensation under that fund, and who had not yet had. the benefit of the award, iii consequence of the constant repetition of claims for further inquiry, as well as about 530 others, going as far back as 1820, who would still be kept, owing to similar praceedings, out of their just rights. After some further observations of a similar nature, the Hon. Member stated, that the main fact of the case , -- _~