The Sun. — London, England, 1809-11-04 00:00:00

• • COMA/101v COUNCIL. Yesterday a Court was held at Guildhall, ivbeii a Variety of business came before them. The LORD MAYOR acquainted the Court with the gracious reception which the Address of the City had Met with from his Majesty ; and it was unanimously agreed that his Majesty's most gracious answer should be entered on their Records. Mr. JACKS said, l►e begged to call the attention of the Court to the Donation of 20001. which his Majesty had been graciously pleased to make to the Society for Relieving Small Debtors. He thought the Court could not better express their deep sense of the Royal munificence, than by entering a Reso. lotion on their Journals to this etfeat : " That this Court telt - highly gratified, that their Resolution to grant the sum of wool. to the above Society, had been followed with such unanimity in every part of the Country; and that it has now the proud satis faCtion of observing that this mode of celebrating the both Anniversary of the Accession, waiapprov ed of by our beloved Sovereign, who has generously condescended to apply the sum of 20001. to the same charitable purpose." Mr. -MILLER submitted, that a donation of so small an amount from so munificent a Prince, did not call fcr such particular notice. It Would took a* if we were surprised that so rich a Prince gave a sum that had been nearly equalled by the munificence of priv4te individuals on other occasions. He recol letted that Sir F. Burdett lately gave 10001. to the Aiiddlesex Hospital, and yet he had never received any acknowledgment for so doing. He hoped the motion would be withdrawn. Mr. ;;;(I;niirely from the worthy G entleman. It should be recolleaed, that we were -this day told in the public prints, that his Majesty l'ad besides given 10001. for the same purpose iu Ireland, and a similar sum for Scotland. This was given out of his Majesty's privy purse, and it was a well known fad, that his Majesty's personal in come was by no, means great, and that he was not so rich as was generally supposed. Mr. S. Dixori spoke to order. in his opinion, his (lajesty's circumstances were not at all a proper subjed for discussion in that place. The Resolution, was then put, and , carried. MOORFIELDS. A Report was then read from the City Lands Committee, on the subject of an application made by Sir F. Baring and other Gentlemen, to ered Buildings on Moorfields, to accommodate the Lon don Institution. The Report said, that by the Charter which gave 01(xgrields to the City, they Were not entitled to build upon it, or to grant li tense to that purpose. After a good deal of discus sion on the subjeta, in which most of the speakers d welt on the propriety of affording this accommo dation, for the purpose of promoting the interests of literature and general instruction, it was agreed that it should be remitted to the Committee to de vise means, whether by Aet of Parliament, or other wise, to accommodate the Institution. MR. WARMS. Mr, KIIINISLE rose to make his promised motion for rescinding the Resolutiot , y passed by the Court on th e Ist of August last, wl:- u a motion for re nding the Vote of Thanks to Mr. Wardle was ne- T) P at ived. fee should first move that the Resolutions , ,9_uestion be read ; (they were then read,) eer. KamaLa begged to assure the Court, that be Was not aduated by any party motives in bringing f_,..orwarcl a motion for rescinding these resolutiouteee fie had not asked the *ueetert of any one person on the present occasion, oil lie did not even know whether it would be e eee „d ed ; but he was convinc ed that it would veeetor the honour and credit of the Court that they should be erased from their journals. Be did ceeceive that when the Court was regularly summoned to discuss any motion, of which due pre.. Vious notice was given, be was bound to submit to the decision of the Court, which must the n remain at rest. Now the Court was especially Convened on the first of August`, to consider the propriety of Testiading its vote Of thanks to Colbnel.Wardle..... A tthat time he happened to be in the Country, bus ...7 Was much astonished, indeed, white he saw that _7 e etletisen, not content with negativing 4 0 in° - (ion, **wilt forward a long string of Resolutions, whi ch had no necessary conneifition with tbq otter) and with which the Come could not be aegnainted from previous notite. Soch being the case, they ought not, to hiR opinion, to stand on the records of the Court. This, he veneered, could alone tend to the credit and honour of the Court, and prevent them from being taken by surprise in future. If this precedent were to stand, it would be in the rower of any man, by giving, no notice of his inten tions, and bringing a number of his friends here, to ant er carry y an.. amendment h e p l ease d. H e cou ld not into the question about Mr. Wardle; he lmerely opposed the Resolutions, on the ground that tleY were disorderly and unprecedented. He con. eluded with moving that the Resolutions of the first of August be rescinded. Mr. Deputy Box seconde , l the motion. These tesolutiont went to attac', ti en who were at the tiaae high h his Majesty's e'c .ncils and Confidence, end this when no fair notice was given of any such intention. The Members were not aware of such a measure being brought forward, and being Mien by surprise, the Resolutions should be obit te-ated. Mr. Alderman GOODBEHERE did not perceive the strength of reasons brought forward by the won. Y Gentlemen. They said they were anxious for ' - ne h onour ;and etedit of the Court ; but the fair 141erenne to be dtv.vn from their motion was, that Whenever these worthy Gentlemen were out of to wn, this Court was not to exercise its judgment c' l l any su bj es a whatever. Was it to be said, that toe motion against Mr. Wardle was to have a mere ¶I mauve or negative ? What was it our business to go but to investigate that motion in all its bearings, aced make such additional resolutions as might seem Proper and necessary ? He would ask, was it the usion) of the House of Commons, on similar am. ''lons ; to confine themselves to a mere negative ? Certa:_nly not; they always aaed as circumstances aPPeas'ekl, and such must be the case with every Other -public body. This mdion, if carried, will 'operate as a complete extinguisher on all the lustre lilts Court has acquired by its manly conduit. He feared iris worthy friend, the moser, had been con larr,ilvited by his residence in the country. He had itfc; . granted, that the worthy Member had '4)41.e,0v.er to their side, and had enlisted under the i.~..-. banners of reform; that he had left all those old prejudices which had well nigh ruined the country ; but he was sorry he was Liiitraken. fie says lie wants nnthing- No Baron or Squire. That ivat Knight of the Shire, was happier than the Worthy Gentleman. But we are not ignorant .of his industry in bringing forward his friends, when he had any purpose to carry. He had Allowed bin:tacit, that we were as much indebted to Mr. Wardle as to any man now living; then let us not damp the ardour of such men by coming to this Resolution. He had no hesitation in saying that Mr. Wardle had been shamefully calumniated ; he was passing through a fiery ordeal, and he will come out with new lustre. It ought to be known, that Mr. Wardle was of a most amiable disposi tion and character in private life ; that he was of a most domestic turn of mind, and did not indblge in those private indulgencies which had been Supposed. No, he did not ; though one Gentleman, who had railed at him, had said that he would, had he been in the satne situation. Knowing the slippery cha raCter of Airs. Clarke, it was fired by Mr. Wardle and his friends, that, if they left her behind them, in their tour, she would go e'et tb the eneMy's camp, and having got a glass coach fol. the lour ney, it was thought best that Mrs. Clarke 'should have a corner in it.—(Lcughter ) It was said, that Mr. Wardle had not followed up his charge of per jury against Mrs. Clarke; but the Grand Jury had found a true bill against her for a conspiracy. The circumstances attending the charge of perjury were so strong, that they had found the bill, and the trial for the conspiracy would be founded on the proof of her perjury. Let not Mr. Wardle then be calumniated by his enemies ; he was entitled to our indulgence, to our support, to our encouragement. Every man who dared to expose corruption would have a number of enemies, who would endeavour to throw a cloud on his reputation. It therefore be came our duty, if we were friends to our country, and enemies to corruption, to support such men, instead of discouraging them. It was not consonant With our duty to the publi=!, or to ourselves, to ob literate these resolutions. It was quite impossible to know before hand what amendment on a motion it would be proper to make--that could only arise from the nature of the case as it appeared upon the discussion. Upon the whole, he hoped that the Court would have a greater regard to their character and reputation than to agree to their Resolution. Mr. sActits said, that being some hundred miles from London when the Resoltitions were proposed, he had no opportunity of considering them, but would now offer a few observations on some of them : he would not detrad from Mr. Wardle's motives in bringing forward the investigation, and did not think that the late fatuous trial 'detracted from them; he had therefore no objection to the first Resolution, but that part of the Resolutions about the abuse of Church patronage be thought unnecessary. We had, indeed, heard what had been attempted by a man of the name of Beasley, and by another man, who had lately put an end to his existence. But though they attempted to obtain Church preferment by corrupt means, yet the had not obtained it. This, then, Was no proof of corruption in the Church. Next, as to the charge.sagainst Mr. Perceval and Mr. Henry Wellesley, of using Treasury influence in placing Members in the House of Commons :—all this only retuainect:io the shape of charges, and no proufK had been given. As to the conduct of Lord Castlereagh, there was a clear line of distinction to be drawn between it and the preceding. His mal practices were proved and confessed, and he should hav e given the paragraph _relating to that Noble Lord's conduct his hearty concurrence. The Reso lutions then proceeded to a general charge of cor ruption against the House of Commons. Now no one detested vice and corruption in the abstract more ' than he did; but some allowances should be made for great temptations. Even Laid Bacon, the father of philosophy, and otherwise a great than, had been convicted of taking bribes. He very much ques tioned whether Parliament were more corrupt t,ow than formerly. He fOund, from the Parliamentary History, that even so soon after the Revolution as the Year 1694, 90001. had been distributed in bribes among, the Members to forward the passing of theßast India Cusn any Bill, and that even the Speaker, Sir J. Trevor, partook of it, of which he was so ashamed, that he never returned to his chair, pretending sick. ness. So long ago as the year 1737, be found Mr. Pulteney declaiming against the corruption ofiParlia ment, in as strong terms as Mr.Watdle or any one else could do, as if corruption had come to its highest pitch, and could go no further. About the same time he found Sir W. Windham complaining, that I:! our smaller boroughs were as venal and merce nary as common prostitutes." He really believed that public men were not now so corrupt as they had been. Who discovered Lord Melville's case ? A Committee of the House of Commons. Who exposed Alexander Davison ? Why a Committee of the same House. Besides, did not the proposed toreoclunents of Mr. Wardle ,go a part to the di roinuctuu ui vas army, &he mama of our thAPS/00 ? and it was quite absurd to suppose, as be had done, that the House of Commons having such a multi plicity of business, and often engaged in debate till six or seven in the morning, could also be the au ditors of the pubic aceounts..—He would ask, then, were sash Resolutions as these expedient) Was it proper that opinions so crudely formed, and so tin expaaarny brought forward, should be promulgated by the brit Corporation of the kingdom, and re main for ever on their records ? He knew it was the fashion of the day to decry 311 public men ; but what Was to become of us if this opinion should become common, that all public men are acting only for: their own ends, and not with a view to the public good ? In that case anarchy must usurp the place of regular government, and all its horrors would be the cause quintet'. Re thought it the duty of every man to rally aiound the Constitution • he had lived an years ender it s Ise bad acquired a lit tle property that made him independent, and he had tio wish to see his life, or his property subjea to the mandates of a Revolutionary Committee, or the decrees of a de spotic Emperor. On these grounds he supported the motion. Mr. WAITIIMAN said, it had been his intention riot to trouble the Court with any observation of his, after hearing the speech of the Hon. Gentleman who introduced the motion, as that speech scarcely cilled for any reply. After the speech, however, IA hich thus had just beard, be should think incx • • • • easable, if he only gOvi sikhi en the occasion. -At first, he confessed tbat he had been ve,y much at a loss to conceive what reaiiott the Hon. Mover could advance to induce the Coint to rescind a former Re solution, of t , o much importance; but he had been considerably relieved from his embarrassment, when he heard the Gentleman declare that his objection was founded.only in the manner in which the Resolution had been carried, and was not at ail intended to mili tate against the original Vote of 1 - ii-ivhs to Air. Wlrdle. The Whole of the Centlenn-in's observations had been diretied, not apinsi :he 'l-T:ter of the Reso lution, but against the irregularity which he conceiv ed bad accompanied it, that resolution having be en adopted, without any previous notice, as an arneod mentrto a motion that had failed of success. With respeiEt to the irregularity which was complained of, he had only to remind them of the proceedings of last Court ;:ai, hich sheweil, th:it ~t•ien it suited the conveniency of the Court, the !:( could dispense with the strict letter of regulation; w hile they ad hered to the general spirit and opiiiion of :he Court; for it must be recolle6.ted, that, do the last day of their meeting; instead of adoptitig the proposition, On account of which they had been a.sembled, they had adcPted one of a very ditfetent nature, and the *orthy Gentlernari on that Occasion made no objec tion to the Resolution on the grodnd of its irregu larity. Circumstances; it had been urged, had transpired, since their original Vote of Thanks to Mr. Wardle, sufficient to induce them to rescind that Resolution. That such circumstances might have occurred was not impossible but, in order to judge of their weight, it was necessary to hear them, and, for his own part, he had as yet heard nothing, either on this or any former day, that could in the least alter his opinion. Much im portance had been given to the circumstance of the legal difference between Mrs. Clarke and Mr. War dle ; but whatever might be his opinion, or that of any other man on this subjeti, it ,would not alter the complexion and charaoer of his' public conduct, which that Court, in the first instance, had so readi ly and .4o patriotically approved. Whatever might be the private character of Mr. Wardle, laying aside all considerations of that nature, he could not deny him the praise due to him for the public services he had rendered the country. He could not be so foolish as to refuse the hand of a man who was ready to save him from drowning, because he might con ceive that rim to be of a vicious private diameter. He conceived that they were called on, on the pre sent occasion, to protect their own transactions, and to pass an opinion on the circumstances that had since occurred, or were pretended to have occurred, that might warrant any violation of their former Re solutions. The Gentleman who had submitted the moti 41 had pointed out nothing that could justify any change in their former opinion, and having pointed out nothing of this nature, he could not see the propriety of renewing the discussion. Notwith i standing the various speeches he heard in than Court from the Gentleman opposite (Mr. beki), in which • I he had seldom failed to cover himself u ith dust and and cobwebs, he had never been more surprized at any of those speeches than at that which they had heard this day. In his objections to the second pa ragraph of the Resolution to be rescinded, he could not deny that ecclesiastical trati,E:tions, of the na ture there described, had occut red : but like that arch quibbler, Mr. Canning, he denied their exist- ence, or (which was the same thing) their crimi nality, because they had not been carried into etfeat. eould it be denied, however, that Dr. O'Meara had been brought into the presence of his Majesty by the influence of a licentious woman, in order to pro mote his preferment at the instance of a prosti tute ? With respect to the next paragraph, relative to seats in the House of Commons, he contended, that the words of the Speaker of the House of Com mons had been very fairly and properly applied.— Tile Speaker had reprobilted that nefarious traffic, a :d Lord Liverpool had so lately as last Session, whAt he acknowledged its existence, spoken of it also la telms nearly of equal reprobation. The Sp aker lad said that an end must ibe put to this traffic, or the period must arrive when seats would be sold by public anaion, and involve us in univer sal disgrace and contempt. In the next paragraph, relating to fiord Castler e agh, the Honourable Gen tleman had regretted the odium cast on that. great than, as be had been pleased to consider him ; but he would venture to say, and it would require little proof to justify the assertion, that, if such were th great men they had to boast of, this coun;ry Iva lost for ever. If Canning and Castlereagh were the only Men in .whom the country 'could repose confi dence, there then was no hope remaining, and eve ry expectation of safety, as well as reform, must fall to the ground. The Gentleman had said a great deal on the subject of virtue and vice, which, be was afraid, he did not himself quite understand.— He hated rice, and loved virtue, in the abstract, as much as any man, he had told them; and he had no doubt that he loved the latter in the same man ner as he might liken good dinner, in the abstract; but he could not, for his own part, see what con nection those deep, if not impenetrable speculations, bad with the present question. He seemed to think corruption necessary, because, as he very wisely stated, it had existed in all ages, and attended the States of Greece and Rome, in their progress and de cline, as well as that of Great Britain, But if cor ruption was so general, did it follow that ive were not to resist it ? If it was a weakness attached to all human institutions, did it follow that we were to take no means, if not of expelling, of at least miti gating the disease, and removing it to a distance ?-- On the contrary, it would appear that those Gentle tlemen were friends to corruption on account of its prevalence. Mr. WAITHI4AN Laving continued in .his usual strain for some time, concluded with stating, that the people ought to support and encourage such Members of Parliament as supported their rights, and showed a disposition to check the torrent of corruption. He was, therefore, of opinion, that it was the duty of the Court to encourage such men as Mr. Wardle, and for that reason he hoped they would negative the motion by the previous question. Mr. DIXON had no intention to take up the time of the Court at that late hour, but could not sit quietly, and bear such language and such argument as had fallen from the last Speaker, wAhout express ing his most decided disapprobation. The Gentle man was telling the people of this country, that they were to expect no redress from Parliament, and chat they /Wait look out for their own remedies. As this language, would no doubt'to abroad, -rlittt Oepeopleta.think if they wete tanfortunatienntitet tr' bzlieve him ? What, too, Ina the enemy t . ,ci when they heard that cr,r.l.; , ,de, meta was so -I.la dotted and Corrupt ? • NV?is this time to .01c1 laaguage, then. Buonaparte, Lit en aged tr his former .embarrassments, Wil4 ready to dire c 7 his whule. , farce *Pa ost thi. ti.. ( ; : ,i not mit mcro than 20 - independent men in the 1-1-,ulse, Comm on;, and yet t.e alio.+ il3 last Sr4SiON 100 had supported Mr. tion. mi.+ case lee 11.0 union -unite') much. In the circssaimay , ss he cosint ought, 11- contended. to "' , m , :; , y to see m.iny thin ex..,t. a moment to give :unit 10 Ihe pes - ,i . might hugh, but Inughtis4iii different Tim: 'notion, I then vilified nor justified Mr. '. •, anc .It3Ll allusion to his condua it McCv the resolution of a fornitr day, on .1 irregular manner in which it had Gentlemen had argued on this subj resolution had been unanimous ; be recolle&ed that this far from he.ng though several were abseht who 'would have posed it. Alderman ATKINS contended, that the 125 who voted on I'Vardle's motion sheaved the Elt,use of Commons not to be that corru;)t body they had been represented. He had the honour of being: a Member of that, House during the inveitigatioit respelling Lord Melville, and maint.►iced that the decision of 'the House, on that occasio►►, served as a perpetual memento of its integrity and virtue. He admitted That the Court had a right to inves tigate the condua of public men,but they had certainly ly no right to traduce the House of Commons ;is u body, nor to charge men with any thing for which they had not proof. As the Resolution alluded to he thought went thus far, and as there was a depar ture in its mode of introduaion from their usual re &Amity of proceeding, he gave his concurrence to the present motion. Mr. MILLAS opposed the motion, and observed, that if it should be carried, it would appear as if they had merely voted thanks to Colonel Wardle in order to have an opportunity of rescinding that vote, and more effeaually insulting him. Mr. KEMBLX disclaimed all intention of re fledling in any shape on the conduct of Colonel Wardle or of altering in any degree the original Vote of Thanks. The question being loudly called for, the previous question was put, and carried by a considerable majority. Some of the Members, however, not sa fished with the shew of hands, called for a divi sion, and the Court was accordingly cleared. No. division, however, took place. The Committee then adjourned about six o'clock. SPORTING INTELLIGEXCE. NEWMARKET THIRD OCTOBER, OR HOUGH. TON MEE TING, 180,. LRIDAy, NOV. 3. Ld Sackvine's Bustard, Bst: beat Mr. Lindow's Sst. tolb. B. C. toogs.--6 to 4agst Bustard I.d Foley's Spaniard, beat Mr. Craven's Beau Nash, Bst. 31b. each. Front the Turn of the Lands la, 2.,.),-4s. h. ft.—. 4 tot on Spaniard. Lcl, Lowther's Loiterer, Sst. 31b. beat Gen. Gro.ivenor'a Trump, .3st. jib. Aneaster's Mile, jogs. —3 to E agst Loi. hirer. Ld Foley's Spaniard, beat Mr. Vansittart's Burleigh, Sst. 71b. each. D. I. wogs. --5 to 4 agst Spaniard. Sweepstakes of jogs. each, h. ft. Across the Flat. • Mr. Lake's Tumbler, 4 yrs Bst. 41b. . Mr. Kellermann's Zoroaster, 4 yrs 7st. alb. a Col. Draper's Cambrian, 5 yrs 7st. s lb. - - 3 13 to 8 agst Tumbler. Sir C. Bunbury's Fair Star, ?st. ;lb. beat Mr. Craven's 11‘ e Itu Nash, F,st. 41h, '1'1,v,,-)r oici Course, sogs.--; to ron Fair Star. Lady Shelley's V,:xation, heat Mr. Iloworth's Viscountess, Rst. 41b. each. Two-yr old Course, sogs.-6 la 4 on Vexa. lon. _ . Sir C. Turner's Middlethorpe, Sst. 71b. beat General Gower's Mirth, 7st. gilA. .Ab . M. zocgs. h. 11.-4 to ton M:ddlethorpe. A Subscription Handicap plate of sol. fur 3.yr olds and up. w eds. I). 1. Slr C. Turner's br. c. Cuardy, 4 yrs Bst. zlb. Sir !. Shelley 's ch. I. Fanny, 4 yrs Bst. - - Mr. Lake's b. c 'fumbler, 4 yrs Bst. taib. - - a., to b agst G uardy —6 to 4 agst Fanny-3 to r agst Gtn C:osvenor's Trump, 7st. illb: rec. 2.5g5. from D. of Rutland's Neu, ,st. 71b. Ab. M. cogs. We understand by letters from Oxford, that only. two Candidates have been trinounced for the Chan cellor's Chair, vacant by the death of the Duke of Portland : —Tile Right Hon. Lord Eldon, and thc Right Honourable Lord Grenville. A strenuou6 canvas is on foot, and it is expeCted that the elec tion will not be decided without a severe contest. The following are the Noblemen and Gentlemen invited by the Lord Mayor Eleat and Shetitls, to Lc their guests at the Civic Feast on Thursday nest 3 By the Lord Mayor. The Duke of Bedford Lord Darnley Lord Grenville H. Petty --- Erskine Carrington Spencer Mr. Canning --: Holland Sir Sidney Smith St. Vincent Mr. Henry Hoare Moira Mr. William Gee. By Mr. Sherif Wood. Lord Folkstone Mr. Byng Sir F. Burdett Admiral Keates Mr. Whitbread Major Cartwright. Mr. Wardle fly Mr. Shipciff Atkins. Marquis of Watertord Lord Castlereagh Lord Sidmouth Mr. Vansittart - Morton Admiral Colpoys. - St. Vincent The two Tyroleans who have been deputed by their gallant countrymen to solicit assistance from our Government, appeared on the Exchange yesterday at half past three o'clock. They are both extremely well-Looking men, and were dressed in the uniform of the Tyrolese Patriots. They afterwnds ascended to the Subscription Room at Lloyd's, where they were received with repeated cheers. Mr. A:ker mann of the Strand, acted as their Cicerone on this occasion. WORSHIP-STREET. Thursday Caroline Birkit, alias Fraser, was charged with burshriously enteving the dwelling-house of Mr, John Smith, in Gutter lane, Cheapside, on the night of ihe 7th ult. and stealing thereout yards of silk ribbon, value 7271. ; and 60 lb. of silk, value 1721.; part of t: e property was founl in her possession, sworn to, and sae was fully coannitted to Newgatt for Vial. G 1