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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, JuLr 5. The House was occupied up to 5 o'clock in hearing evi dence on the Stafford Disfranchisement Bill. POOR LAWS AMENDMENT ACT. Lord KENYON presented a petition from Gloucester against certain clauses of this Bill. BRIGHTON RAILROAD. Lord ASHBURTON presented a petition from Croy don against this Bill. MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONS. A Message from the Commons was brought by Mr. C. BULLER and other Members, praying their Lordships to permit Lord Lyndhurst to be examined before the Record Commission. WESTMINSTER SMALL DEBTS BILL. On the motion of the Earl of SHAFTESBURY this Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Monday. The Bishop of BRISTOL presented a petition from Arthur Morris, High Bailiff of Westminster, praying the insertion of a compensation clause in this Bill. PETTY SESSIONS (IRELAND). On the motion of the Earl of SHAFTESBURY this Bill was read a third time. SCOTCH UNIVERSITIES BILL. Earl GREY presented a petition from Edinburgh against this Bill. The Earl of HADDINGTON presented a petition from the same place, against Herriott's Hospital Bill. DURHAM RAILROAD. The Duke of. RICHMOND presented a petition from Bermondsey, in favour of the South Durham Railroad Bill. The House then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS', JULY 5. The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour. Mr. HAWES moved the second reading of the Hunger-. ford and Lambeth Suspension Bridge Bill. It had been in troduced at the beginning of the Session, but bad been de layed in consequence of negotiations between the Company and the Proprietors of the market. All opposition had now been got over except that of the Waterloo Bridge Com pany, but the public were not to be deprived of a great con venience because their Bridge did not pay. The Bill was read a second,time. On the motion of Captain ALSAGER the Lords' Amendments to the London and Croydon Railway were agreed to. Mr. WILKS presented a petition from a congregation of Dissenters at Great Kingston, in the county of Leices ter, praying that some alteration might be made in the law relative to the appointment Of Trustees of Chapels. As the law at present stood, the appointment of new Trustees was attended with very great expense. The annual expenditure amounted to 25,0001. merely for the purpose of renewing the Trustees of Chapels. The peti tioners prayed that some Bill might be introduceti to re medy these evils. TURNPIKE TRUSTS. Mr. LAWSON presented four petitions from the trus tees of the Boroughbridge turnpike roads, in Yorkshire, and other places, against certain parts of the Bill for the Conso lidation of Turnpike Trusts ; also a petition from Knares borougb, against the Ecclesiastical Courts Bill. EAST AND WEST INDIA PRODUCE. Mr. MARK PHILLIPS presented a petition from the inhabitants of Manchester and Salford, praying for an equalisation of the duties on East and West India pro duce. The Hon. Member also presented a petition from the Chamber of Commerce, to the same effect. RECEIPT STAMPS. The Hort. M EMB R then presented a petition from certain persons, inhabitants of Manchester and Salford, who had formed themselves into a Society for the protec tion of Trade, stating that the law as regarded receipt stamps was evaded in all large commercial towns, and pray ing the House to abolish stamps on receipts. SMITHFIELD MARKET. Mr. E. TENNENT presented a petition from the bankers and citizens of London, signed by 200 persons, and two others from the inhabitants of Smithfield and its vi cinity, against the continuance of Smithfield Market, signed by upwards of 800 persons, which they considered a great nuisance. He had a notice for that evening upon the.subject ; but as many Hon. Members interested in the matter were out of town, and as the Session was very far advanced, he would withdraw his motion for the present, and begged to give notice that early next Session, it was his intention to bring in a Bill for the removal of Smithfield Market. Mr. W. PATTEN presented a petition against the Turnpike Trusts Consolidation Bill. Mr. Alderman COPELAND moved for certain returns connected with the Report upon the state of the Gaol of Newgate, which had been laid before the Board of Alder men a the city of London_--Agro.ul to. Sir G. CLERK presented petitions from Edinburgh against the Bill for the regulation of the law of copyholds. Lord STANLEY presented a petition from Dunbar against the Scotch Universities' Bill. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, when he introduced the Bill for removing the disabilities of the Jews, an Hon. Friend of his had said that it was a matter of indifference to the vast majority of the Jews. He was happy that the statements he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) then made were fully borne out. He then presented petitions from all the congregations of the Jews in London, in favour of the Bill ; one from Nairn, praying that the duty upon Paper and Newspapers might be imme diately abolished ; and one from the York Bank, praying that the House would institute an enquiry into private Banks, of the same nature as was now being pursued to wards Joint Stock Banks. Mr. AGLIONBY presented a petition from the Mayor and Commonalty of Kendal, praying that the House would pass some measure for the reduction of the Stamp Duty upon Newspapers during the present Session. PAUPER LUNATICS. Mr.'A. CHICHESTER, understanding that there was no objection on the part of the Noble Lord, the Secretary of State for the Honepartment , t moved for a return of the number of Pauper atics in each county of England and Wales.—Agreed to._ _ LIGHT-HOUSES. Mr. HUME moved for a continuation of the returns of the receipt and expenditure of Light-houses, in the same form as those made by the Trinity House, up to the year 1832.—Agreed to. Mr. HUME moved for certain returns relative to the Church Establishment in India. The Hon. Member stated he did this, wishing to have the returns made pre vious to the discussion coming cn next Session relative to that Establishment. TWELVE O'CLOCK SITTINGS. Mr. WARBURTON said he had a notice of motion standing for to-night of a petition from two parties, claiming a considerable sum of money under the estate of the late Mr. S. Troutbeck of Madras, and as the case was of such importance to the parties, and required a long statement to rendered intelligible, he wished to have the opportunity of a Morning Sitting at 12 o'elo3k, for the purpose of having the case heard:—ho would take either Thursday or Friday. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE6UER would throw no obstacle in the way of his Hon. Friend's prOpo sition. He admitted the case was one of great importance, and as he was Counsel for the public, it was necessary he should be in attendance. Thursday would be the most -convenient dav-fopdbirn-to attend. Mr. WARBURTON then gave notice, that he would move to-morrow that the House do sit at twelve o'clock on Thursday. DOVER HARBOUR. This Bill was read a third time. On the motion that a new clause be added, Sir E. KNATCHBULL wished to have the opinion of the Speaker as to whether the Standing Orders had been complied with in reference to this Bill. The SPEAKER thought the alteration that had taken place was one that could not be made consistent with the Orders of the House. In his opinion, therefore, the Stand ing Orders had not been complied with. Mr. HUME thought the objectionable part should be left out, and the Bill should stand over for a twelvemonth. A conversation took place between the Speaker, Mr. Hume, Sir E. Knatchbull, and another Hou. Member, the purport of which we did not distinctly hear. Mr. R. STEWART said the whole question of this :harbour had been referred to a Select Committee, with power to inquire into its management. As the evi dence of that Committee was not before the House, he (Mr. Stewart) would not refer to it ; but, as its Chair men, he had felt it his duty to propose certain reso lutlini, to the efroct that leave should be given to bring in a public Bill to carry these resolutions into effect, and thereby vest the power of the Commissioners in the Admiralty. It however being the opinion of the Committee that the introduction of such a Bill might prevent the Com missioners from obtaining the money they required, and that such a step would not be advisable at that late period of the session, the resolutions were negatived. That was -what had given rise to the introduction of the clause in question. After a conversation between the Chancellor of the Ex ebequer, Sir E. Knatchbull, and Mr. Hume, the clause was agreeti to, and added to the Bill. NEW SOUTH WALES. The Order of'4.he Day for going into Committee on the Irish Church Bill hsving been moved, M r . H. BLTLWBR said lie was anxious to put a ques tion t o 'hi s ji co ..-yriend the Secretary for the Colonies. He wished t o\ k riow *Asher it was the intention of the Govern nett to introduce tile Bills of which notice had been given for c die purpose of re) jufating the leg islation of the colonies of San Dietiaen's: Lam t and New South Wales, during the palteat Session, or not at'r G. GREY was afyid it would be impossible to se. cure a due deliberation of the Bills this session, and there fore it would be advisable to postpone it till the next year. SLAVE TRADE IN PORTUGAL. Mr. FOWELL BUXTON said that perhaps the House would be saved the trouble of going into a dis cussion upon a notice of motion he bad given for to night, if ,the Noble Lord, the Secretary for Foreign Affairs, could inform him whether it was true there was now a treaty going on with Portugal, for the purpose of suppressiog the slave trade ? Lord PALMERSTON said there could be no doubt but this country paid a large sum of money, for the purpose of securing the co-operation of Portugal in putting down the slave trade. He was happy to be able to state that a treaty was negotiating between the two Governments, which was all but concluded, and which would secure the effectual co-operation cf . Portugal in putting down the Slave Trade. Mr. F. BUXTON said that means had been devised even in the Mauritius to evade the regulations of the Negro Eman cipation Act, under pretence of removing these servants. He begged to ask the President of the Board of Controul before he sat do xn, whether he had any objection to pro duce the dispatch of the Court of Directors, dated 20th February, 1833? Sir J. C. HOBHOUSE could assure his Hon. Friend that he would feel it his duty to urge the adoption of such measures as were recommended in that despatch. THE BRITISH LEGION. Sir R. PEEL begged to ask the Noble Lord the Secre tary for Foreign Affairs, whether he• had seen a document bearing the signature of the Commander of the British Legion, which had appeared in all the papers of yester day. The document had all the external marks of authenticity, but all the internal ones of being a fabrication. —( Hear.) The Order of the llay stated, that as the Legion was acting in concert with the British Marines, all British subjects taken with arms in their hands, and serving Don Carlos, would be treated as rebels, and suffer death as such according to the laws of England. As that docu ment was receiving very general circulation, the sooner bny authentic official information could be obtained upon what he (Sir It. Peel) must consider a fabrication, the better ; and if the Noble Lord could do so, it would be most important that it should be contradicted.—(Hear.) Lord PALMERSTON said the Right Hon. Baronet must be aware that the act was one relating to an officer not in the British service, or under the British Government,and for whose acts Government was not responsible. Govern ment could have no official cognizance of the document, and therefore if the Right Hon. Baronetasked him (Lord Palmerston) as a Minister of the Crown, he must reply that he had no information to give him ; but if he asked him as an individual whether he believed such a document existed, be was bound to say that he believed some such order had been issued. It was unnecessary for him to add, that no orderissued by a General in the Spanish service could be considered as an interpretation of the law of Great Britain. Lord MAHON wished to put a plain question to the Noble Lord with respect to the affairs of Spain. Was Englani at peace or war with that country?—(Cheers, and cries of " Chair, chair.") He thought that it was a very tortuous policy indeed that could not give a plain answer to a plain question.—(Cheers.) Lori PALMERSTON thought that the Noble Lord, in putting a plain question need not have gone into a tor tuous argument.—(A laugh.) The Noble Lord had asked whether this country was at peace or war with Spain, to which he answered that a treaty had been signed between this country and Spain, by which this country was bounc: to give to the Queen of Spain the co-operation of a naval force if necessary, and the Government were now putting in force, to *the best of their abilities, the tenor of that treaty.—(Cheers.) A Message from the Lords brought up several Bills. In answer to a question from an Hon. MEMBER, Lod PALMERSTON said that, upon a represen tation from Lord John Hay, a party of the corps of Sappers and Miners were now under orders to go out and join him. EMIGRATION. _ Mr. WALTER had a question to put to the Govern ment, to which he was anxious to afford the House an intro ductory explanation. The SPEAKER said the Hon. Member must confine himself to the question. Mr. WALTER said, in passing a country post-office he happened to see a large placard relating to fe mie emigration exhibited in the window. On making inquiries, he was shown a letter from the Secretary of the Post-office, desiring that it might be exhibited until the ship sailed. The placard stated that young women from 15 to 30 were wanted to go to Van Diemen's Land ; and it went on to state, he did not think very modestly, that young women were much wanted, be cause of the deficiency of population—CA laugh)—and that a great portion of those who had previously gone out, had already got married. Tho SPEAKER said the Hon. Gentleman was abusing_ the courtesy of the House ; he must confine himself to the question. Mr. WALTER would only say a few words.—(No, no.) Then he would ask whether this was an official docu ment or not ? Sir G. GREY believed that there was nothing official in the document, which emanated from a voluntary Association who paid much attention to their self-imposed duties. The Hon. Member for Chichester was one of the most influential Members of the Committee, and would be able to give the Hon. Member any information he wanted. Mr. ROBINSON gave notice that early next Session he would move for leave to bring in a Bill to amend the India Act, in order to afford compensation to the excluded officers. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. Mr. PLUMPTRE said, that on this day week the Noble Lord opposite (Russell) had given him a promise, that he should have the right of addressing the House this night, relative to a motion which he had in the paper upon the subject of individuals, in civil and mili tary services, being relieved from assisting in religious ce remonies to which their own tenets were opposed. if he could not be allowed to bring it in to-night, he should be glad to know when it would suit the convenience of the Noble Lord ? - . Sir R. PEEL wished to make an observation before the Noble Lord answered the question that had,just been put. They had had a division last night upon the first of a series of clauses, that first involving a great principle. Most of the other clauses were exe cutory clauses, for the purpose of carrying that prin. ciple into effect. He apprehended, therefore, it was not likely that any gentleman would think it proper to enter into a detailed discussion of the other clauses, they, on his side of the House, having entered a protest against the principle ; consequently if the Bill came on at a late hour of the night, the lateness of the hour would not form any objection to its being taken.—( Hear, hear.) 401 JOHN RUSSELL said that undoubtedly the Honourable Member. _for Kent had a right to claim the attention of the House to-night as far as he was concerned. As the Right Hon. Baronet had stated the course he meant to pursue to-night, if a division was to be taken again, either on the Report or the third reading, he hoped the Right Hon. Gentleman would give them notice of such an in tention. _ _ Sir R. PEEL would undertake to give the Noble Lord ample time of such an intention, to prevent any possibility of inconvenience. At the same time it would be distinctly understood, if they forbore: from entering into details, that it was not because they approved of them. He thought they had pretty distinctly last night manifested their opinion.—(Cheers.) Mr. HUME proposed that the House should meet at twelve o'clock on Friday.—(Cries of " No, no.") He did not wish to bring forward his motions respecting our posses sions in British India at night. . • Lord J. RUSSELL hoped the Hon. Member would bring forward his motion some day next week. He did not know if the Hon. Member was prepared to bring it on this evening. Mr. HU ME said he was quite prepared, Sir J. C. HOBHOUSE I;opedtht the Hon. Member would not come on with the Affairs of India to-night.— (A laugh.) On the Order of the Day being moved, Mr. PLUNIPTRE rose to move the adoption of an address, praying his Majesty, that his subjects in civil and military service abroad might be relieved from as sisting in religious ceremonies to which they were conscienti ously opposed. The Hon. Member trusted that the House would give the subject an impartial consideration, as it was one that had created considerable sensation out of doors. Lord HO WICK could not but give the Hon. Mem ber credit for the motive which actuated him in bringing iOrward such a motion, but he did not think he had made out a case strong enough to induce the House to agree to the proposed address. The two instances alluded to were the only ones known of any officer refusing to perform his duty upon such occasions, and he thought an interference such as proposed would tend much to weaken the discipline of the army. Mr. HARDY supported the motion. Mr. HUNIE did not think that the officer had been justly dismisse'd, and he hoped that those who supported the motion would vote with him for the abolition of Church-rates to the payment of which the Dissenters were eotiOivntiously opposed. Mr. BOLDER° supported the address. Mr. C. FERGUSSON said Captain Aitcheson was not dismissed fur not showing respect to the religious rites of another nation, but for disobedience to military orders, WYSfi supported the motion. Dr. LEFROY trusted that the Hon. Member would divide the House, and persevere WAR he should at last ob tain justice from the House. Mr. H. L. BULWER stated it to be his object to supe port his Majesty's Government upon the present occasion. Some Gentlemen said scruples of conscience were not altoge- THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY, JULY 6, J 836. ther to be attended to. Supposing a soldier was to say the morning a battle was going to be fought that his scruples of conscience forbade him to fight—that he bad turned Quaker—what would you say to his scruples of conscience, except that be had entered into the army knowing that he would be obliged to fight, and that he must abide by his own decision ? For this reason the Quakers did not enter the army. He then should be loth to place the positive control of a vote upon the discretion of the Government ; but he meant to express a strong feeling as to the caution with which that discretion should be exercised, in the care •.vhich should be equally taken to offend as little as pos sible the feelings of the Colonial subject on the one hand, 1 and of the British soldier on the other. Mr. A. JOHNSTONE approved highly of the senti ments expressed upon this occasion by the Hon. Member for the city of Waterford. Lord HO WICK trusted the House would not carry an address to the Crown which would prevent commanding officers from having a discretion in offerirr , or withholding a mark of respect to the people amongst whom they might be placed. Sir C. BURRELL considered the case of Captain Aitcheson an extremely hard one. He wished that it was taken into the merciful consideration of the Crown. _ Sir J. BECKETT remarked that Captain Aitchesou had been tried by a court-martial of 17 officers, and there was no difference of opinion amongst them that he was guilt• of a flagrant disobedience of orders. The finding of that court-martial was submitted to the Duke of Welling ton and the Duke of York, and their opinions coincided with those of the court-martial, that there had been a flagrant disobedience of military command. It was the orders of the Duke of Wellington, when the English army were in Spain, that the soldiers should present arms at the procession of the Host. In every country the English army was found to respect the religious feelings of the people of that country. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE supported the motion. Mr. O'CONNELL stated, if the motion were pressed to a division, he should feel it to be his duty to vote for it. A man could not be a worse soldier from having a strong sense of religion. The Earl of DARLINGTON supported the-motion. Dr. BOWRING said the question of military discipline ought by no means to weigh down the higher claims of conscience. —(Hear, hear.) Had the address involved an approval of the conduct of Captain Aitcheson, he certainly could not, after the statement of the Right Hon. Member for Leeds, have concurred in it. But the motion proclaimed a true, a generous, a philanthropic, and a Christian prin ciple.—(Hear.) He thanked the Hon. Member for bringing forward the motion. Colonel THOMPSON hoped the Hon. Mover would press his motion to a division. The House then divided— For the motion 3B Against it 44 Majority against the motion 6 _ _ On the reading of the Order of the Day, Mr. W. S. O'BRIEN rose for the purpose of moving certain resolutions of which be had given notice, expres sive of the regret experienced by the House at the con duct of the House of Lords, in rejecting the Bill for the Reform of the Municipal Corporations in Ireland. He thought it highly incumbent upon every Irish Member to express the indignation with which they had viewed these proceedings. Mr. R. WASON interrupted the Hon. Member, and urged him not to press his motion. Mr. O'CONNELL, although as sensible as any one could be to the indignity offered to Ireland by the House of Lords, did not think that the course proposed by the Hon. Member would be the right one to give expression to that feeling. Mr. W. S. O'BRIEN said, if the general feeling of the House was against the course he was about to pursue, he would consent to withdraw his motion. The motion was accordingly withdrawn. Mr. AGLIONBY said that the Report of the Criminal Commission having been on the table some time, he wished to know from the Noble Lord the Secretary for the Home Department, whether it was the intention of his Majesty's Government to introduce any measure with a view to carry into effect any of the recommendations of that Com mission ? Lord JOHN RUSSELL was understood to say that the Report in question was of a description to require a great deal of consideration, and that he did not think it ad visable to propose any measure on the subject just now. Mr. FOWELL BUXTON, in order to save the time of the House, desired to know if the President of the Board of Control had any objections to the praluction of a copy of the dispatch of the Court of Directors of the East India Company, dated 20th February, 1833, and transmitted to the Government at Calcutta, respecting the tribute collected from the idolatrous temples and their worshippers ? Sir 3. HOBHOUSE did object at present to the pro duction of this despatch. He.believed it now lay on the table of the Court of Directors ; but if it should appear that the instructions which it contained were not folio Ned out by the authorities in India, he would, at the meeting of the next session of Parliament make no objection to the pro duction of that despatch ; and in that event he would be ready to afford every explanation to his Hon. Friond as to the disposition of the Government to have the instructions carried into effect. CHURCH OF IRELAND BILL. ,The remaining clauses of the Bill were agreed to, with the exception of clauses 47 to 80, which were omitted, as they were intended to form the subject of a separate measure. Clause 42, which had on a previous occasion been post poned, was also, as we understood, agreed to. Some new clauses were added, and also a proviso for the purpose of constituting privy councillors of Ireland ex officio members of the Ecclesiastical Commission. The preamble to the Bill was then agreed upon, and tae Bill was reported to the House, and the report ordered to be received on Thursday. MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS ACT AMEND MENT BILL. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved the Order of the Day for the consideration of the Lords' Amendments upon this Bill. He had very great satisfaction in stating, that in respect to this Bill he did not anticipate any dis union between the two Houses on the ground of the amendments which the House of Lords had thought pro per to make in it. The first point related to the course of proceedings to be adopted in boroughs, where, owing to the town councillors having been equally divided in the choice of the mayor and aldermen, no election of those func tionaries took place. The Bill originally proposed that in cases of this kind the choice of the aldermen and mayor should be referred to the general voice of the constituent body, which seemed to him to be the fairest course that could be adopted under such an emergency. By the amendment introduced by the House of Lords, however, it was proposed to refer the matter to mere chance, so that the question whether the Conservative or Reforming par ties should be successful, was made to depend not upon the sentiments of the constituent rate-payers, but upon mere accident. Now what he had to propose with respect to this amendment was, that it should be agreed to so -far as the election of the president by lot ; but he could not agree that he should be allowed to have a second vote in that ca pacity. In cases, therefore, where the town-councillors were still unable to come to a majority, in order to decide the election of the mayor and aldermen, he should propose that the original provision of the Bill ha recurred te, And that the election be made by the constituent body. The other point upon which he disagreed in the Lords' amend ments was that relating to the trustees of the charitable funds of the Corporations. It would be recollected that a clause had been introduced into the Bill of last year by the House of Lords, constituting the old Corporations temporarily the trustees of these charities : the House of Lords now introduced a clause in the present Bill for the purpose of extending the trust of the old cor porations for, another twelvemonth ; and in that amend ment he could not concur. He was more particularly averse to this arrangement, because a Bill had been already introduced into that House by his Hon. Friend the Member for Northampton, for the purpose of arranging those charitable trusts upon a new, and, he thought, a fair and impartial footing. That Bill had passed through the Committee, and stood for report on an early day ; and in a very few days it would probably be sent up to the House of Lords. The other House might perhaps not have been aware of the existence of that Bill at the time they framed this amendment, which, under such circumstances, it appeared to him to be highly inconvenient for the House to agree to. Another point upon which he had to remark in the amendments of the House of Lords was cne relating to thesmaller courts of the different boroughs, in which it walk' proposed by the Lords that the recorder should preside. As it was deemed expedient, however, in many cases that these courts should sit oftener than the re corder usually attended, it was now about to be pro posed that the recorder should have the power of ap pointinga deputy to sit in his stead, under certain cir cumstances of the kind. There was another minor point, relating to the little disputes between the " Town and Gown" parties t as they were called, at Cambridge, which, Has the Right O! Member Nr Cambridge was not in his place jest n ow, lnc would not enter upqn at present: ThO T riplion of the Attorney-General wag then agreed to ; and on the last Ow Ileing proposed, it was agreed to defer the further consideration erlt. PAPER DUTIES D1T. 1 1. 4 , On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EX CHEQUER, the Howe re;;Qlved itself into Committee on this Bill. Mr. PEASE was anxious to know whether it was the intention of the Right Hon. Gentleman, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, to continue the existence of the drawback allowed to the 'King's printer and the two Vniversities, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied tat it was his intention to let these drawbacks remain as they now were. Mr. HUME did not consider the present a fit opportu nity for discussing this question. He hoped next Session that the subject would be brought before the House. What he now rose to call the attention of the Chancellor of the Exchequer to was, whether it was intended to accede to the proposition for an allowance on the stock of paper in hand, when the reduction of the duty was carried into effect. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, whenever a reduction in duty was made, and at whatever period it commenced, it was clear, without making some legislative arrangements, those who held stocks on hand at the time the reduction was effected, would meet those who laid in stocks which were subject only to the new and reduced duty with some disadvantage.— (Hear, hear, hear.) Various modes had been acted upon for counteracting this evil, and amongst them was the obvious and mechanical one now advocated by his Hon. Friend the Member for Middlesex, namely, to make a re duction or allowonce on the total amount of stock there might be on hand when the reduction came into effect. If that could be attained without inconvenience to the public, it followed that all traders would start on an equality, and enter into a competition on fair terms. Amongst the at tempts made to adopt this proposal was that which took place when a reduction was made in the duty on silk. A drawback was then allowed on the amount of the stock in hand, and the consequence was that the Government had to pay back a much larger amount of duty than was ascer tained to be paid by the silk proprietors. This, besides being productive of an enormous burden to the country, and fraud on the revenue, had this effect also, that, where ever a fraud was committed, and there existed an amount in the stock which had not paid duty, the parties claiming the drawback were benefited by receiving not only a sum for duty which had never been paid, but by being enabled to enter into competition with their honest rivals in trade on unfair terms.—(Hear, hear.) It should also be re collected, that when at past periods the duty on paper had been raised, it was never levied on the stock in hand ; so that, when the rise in price took place— (which followed from the imposition of the additional duty) the trader received a considerable benefit ; and the reduction in duty being now proposed, whatever were the disadvantages under which the trader was placed by it, they formed but a counterbalance to the benefit which he had received by former measures. Now, he should endeavour to explain in a very few words what it was his intention to effect by the present Bill. He must, in the first place, say that he did not object to the principle of a drawback, if fraud could be guarded against . by it. The plan which he had devised would effect its object without giving an oppor tunity for the commission of fraud, and be should explain it in as short a time as possible. First, he intended, under the provisions of this Bill, to postpone the commencement of the repeal of the duty to the 10th of October. The effect of that would be to allow parties to work off their existing stocks before the alteration was effected. This period he thought would be fully sufficient for the purpose which he had mentioned, particularly when it was con sidered that these parties had quite sufficient notice of the intention of Government—first by the Report presented by his Right Hon. Friend Sir H. Parnell ; next by the discussion which took place when the Noble Lord the Member for South Lancashire (Lord Egerton) presented a petition on the subject, and finally by his (the Chancellor of the Ex chequer's) notice of it on the Budget speech. But it might be said, that if things were left in that state, no pur chase would be made from the manufacturer. Now to ob viate that objection, he contended that it should be open to parties to take from the mill paper to any extent they pleased, which should bear not only the Excise mark, but be so identified and distinguished as to exclude all attempts at fraud. They might take this paper into their stock; and on every portion of it that remained on hand on the 10th of October, a drawback would be allowed, and return made of the amount of duty upon it.. That was the way in which he proposed that relief should be afforded ; and he did not think it would be just or expedient to go further. Mr. HUME thought that all attempts at fraud might be perfectly guarded against, by appointing to each town some one place and one day where an examination should take place for the purpose of preventing any forgeries. The Hon. Member concluded, by intimating that he would persist in his proposition. ' After a few words from Mr. Brotherton, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Mr. Robinson, Mr. F. Baring, Mr. G. F. Young, and Mr. Baines— The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER replied that, up to the 10th of October next, the present arrange ment should continue in force, but that after that date the class of paper alluded to would be charged three-half-pence duty. This arrangement would be rendered necessary by the impossibility of making a distinction between the seve ral classes of paper after the passing of the Act. The resolution Was then agreed to ; thy House vv.s u-- sumed, and the Report was ordered to be received to morrow. GRAND JURIES (IRELAND) BILL. On the motion of Lord MORPETH, the House re solved itself into a Committee on the Grand Juries (Ire land) Bill. Mr. W. SMITH O'BRIEN proposed that a system of fiscal representation should be adopted with reference to parishes and baronies, for the purpose of checking the evil. The Hon. Gentleman moved an amendment to that effect, which we understood was negatived. The clauses of the Bill to clause 6 were agreed to. On clause 7 a proviso was moved, we believe by Mr. FRENCH, to the effect of increasing the number of rate payers who were entitled to vote at sessions. After some discussion the Committee divided— For the proviso Against it Majority —26 On clause 7 (enacting that each surgeon of a dispensary, under this Act, should reside within five miles of the dis pensary) being put, Mr. WALKER proposed that the clause should not have a retropective effect. After some discussion, the Committee divided— For the amendment. Against it. Majority —33 The clause was then agreed to. The House then resumed, and the Chairman reported progress. The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at one o'clock. ... 45 The Author of " Peter Simple" is said to be en gaged upon a new work of fiction, the subject of which is ad mirably calculated for his humourous and witty pen. The pro ductions of this author now would form a library of most entertaining writing ; they consist of " Japhet in Search of a Father," " The King's Own," " The Pacha of Many Tales," " Jacob Faithful," and the inimitable " Peter Simple." Among the railroads projected by the Company, the chief office of which is at Rome, is one from Naples to Otranto, a distance of 180 miles, which will be divided into three stages, and will have branches to towns of lesser importance. It is said that one is also to be carried from Naples to Reggio. A very great number of the shares of the Company have been taken by the English. An artist residing near Compiegne, having lived in a state of adultery with a woman, who was the mother of several legitimate children, determined with his guilty asso ciate to commit a double suicide, and took the following extra ordinary means :—They shut themselves up in a small out- house, in which they had collected a pile , of faggots, and hav ing covered their bodies with essence of turpentine, lay down on the heap and then set fire to it. The flames were soon seen, but not till too late; for both the bodies were found half consumed. It is said that two pistols were found, one on each side of these victims.—French Paper. The Posthumous Memoirs of Sir William Wraxall, just published, involve more of what may be called the Private History of England for the last fifty years than can be found in any other work extant. One of the prominent fea tures in that eventful period was the trial of Warren Hastings, the Governor-General of India, the secret motives of which are fully disclosed by our modern Clarendon, who draws into full light the manoeuvres of Pitt, Burke, Sheridan, Windham, &c., on that memorable occasion. The real history of this great impeachment has never before been given to the public. INTREPID CONDUCT OF AN OLD MAN.-- On the side of the bridge at Kidderminster, is a small iron wicket to some steps leading to the river Stour, which is usually kept locked. On Friday week this happened not to be the case, when a child of the name of Griffiths, about five years old, was playing near, and the gate opening, the little fellow fell down the steps into the river, and was carried down the stream. An old man, John Slowman, nearly 70 years of age, jumped from the top of the bridge into the water and rescued him, and the child is doing well. THE DUKE OF WELLINGTON.--We were happy to hear, on inquiry yesterday morning at Apsley House, that the Duke of Wellington had passed a quiet night, and was so far recovered from his recent accident that the only incon. venicnce his Grace now suffers is from a slight stiffness in the knee-joint. MURDER.—Two Jews or Oran, named Mouchi and Aaron, were lately tried for the robbery and murder of a French woman named Beaufils, who from 1834 has carried on business there not of a most respectable character, They en. tered her house uudor the preteneo of drinking, and at about 11 &clock at night wangled her, and took possesslon of her money, which she kept tied up in an old black stocking. The noise made in the struggle alarmed the neighbourhood ; the armed force arrived ; the murderers were seized with the booty in their hands, and the woman was found dead, having been strangled with a rope, and her skull fractured by a blow from a large stone, The men were both convicted ; Mouchi was condemned to death, and Aaron, in whose favour there were some extenuating circumstances, was sentenced to hard labour at the hulks for life. They appealed to the superior court at Algiers, which confirmed the judgment against Mouchi, and reduced that of Aaron to 20 years. They have made a further appeal to the C;octrt Qf cass;tion.—.ogiiricini's Messenger. POST-OFFIC AFFAIRS. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SCOTSMAN. Sla --- -Inyour paper of Saturday, the 4th, I observe a letter signed Juba, narrating, as if uncommon, what really is a very common abuse in the application of the penny-post charge. Your correspondent does not appear to know that the partial application of penny-postage is a very general and growing source of complaint all over these kingdoms ; and that its re medy, or removal, is not less generally disregarded at the Post office in London, than has been the representations contained in the memorial on this subject, even although this was pre sented by the distinguished Members for the City of Edin burgh. In my place in Parliament I have frequently asserted the impolicy as well as the injustice of the application of the law by which penny-postage is charged. It is under a patent granted by the King to the Postmaster-General of the day, conferring discretionary powers, that this tax is squeezed out of the people, and chiefly from the poor too. The penny-post tax is, if possible, even more arbitrary and unconstitutional than the tax imposed in Edinburgh and Montrose for mainte nance of the clergy. For the charge of penny-postage, we have the fiat of a subject—a subject, be it remarked, vested with powers under a thing called a patent from the King, which confers powers the King himself would not claim or attempt to exercise. I have repeatedly asserted in Parliament, that to charge penny-postage on letters passing through the general post, is illegal—presuming, as I have ever done, that statute law goes before and is better than subject-made law, whe ther emanating from a Postmaster-General as to postar, or the sovereign will and pleasure of the Judges of the Court of Session, as fastened on poor Scotland by things called Acts of Sederunt. The grievous and partial impost stated by J u b a , is only one of the innumerable proofs which I can produce, and will speak to, in Parliament, please God, on the 14th of July. I assert here, as I have often done before, that the Post- Office have always carefully concealed from Parliament and the public the immense sums raised from the people, by departing from the statute law of distance being the only legal ground for charge of postage, and resorting to the mean sub terfuge of the Postmaster-General's patent, entitling that de partment at its will and pleasure to establish penny posts in stead of general posts. To superadd penny to general post age, is nothing better or other than cheating the people. The statute law says, letters shall pay according to distance only, and newspapers shall pass free through the Post-Office ; and in the face of this plain and just law, the powers vested by an old musty patent have been assiduously introduced, and covertly palmed on this intelligent nation, as a screen for the greed of revenue, most' unjustifiably and most unwisely persisted in during the long reign of Sir Francis Freeling. I enclose you the copy of a motion I intend to bring on in Parliament on the 14th July. +'—lf the people at large wish to get rid of postage, they will instruct their representatives to take care that one kind of postage, and one kind only, shall in future apply to any letter at one time, and none whatever, under any name or guise, to any newspaper ; un less where the publishers of newspapers in any town, shall see fit to cause their papers to be delivered through the post office in that town—but thus, and no further. The penny postage even in this case must not extend beyond the precincts of the municipal boundaries ; and every town and village what ever, must in future, in common justice, have its general in• stead of its penny post-office. We must get rid of this nick-. name of penny posts. At last, be it remarked, the Govern ment have been constrained to agree to abolish the sinecure office of Postmaster-General, and it will be a disgrace to the whole body of the people, if they allow one atom of subject made-law longer to press them down or tyrannize over them. Towns and villages have the same right to general posts as Edinburgh, London, and Dublin have—and have them ere long they shall, as surely as we have demolished the lordly sinecure office of Postmaster-General, and the snug things called post-office steam-packets. Along with theabove Reforms we require Day Mails, and must immediately have them sent from London in every direction. This I will accom plish, I do hope, before I give up my endeavours for a thorough reform in the post-office ; and I see my way so clearly, as to leave no doubt of two mails being sent daily from London to Edinburgh and Glasgow, as well as all over the country. By two mails a day only can an end be put to the shameful present practice of stopping the corre spondence of the whole three kingdoms fourteen hours out of every twenty-four hours daily in London, as well as the Parliamentary debates, and other public and private Parliamentary business, which are no less interesting and still more useful to a great trading nation. The sooner the active; and intelligent people of Scotland assert their right to be amenable to no Postmaster-General law, but to statute law only, so much the sooner will the empire at large be freed from the monstrous injustice and unspeakable caprice of penny post laws, and other similar absurdities. I have asserted that the Post-office has fastened the penny postage charge on the people in the most insidious, hidden manner. Penny-posts originated in London, and in process of time this penny charge was altered to twopence and three pence, according to distance from the General Post-office, and to the following circumstances ; but have the public been informed of the alterations which were made and the benefits conferred on raising the charge ? No ; the Post-office has care fully, and, like itself, concealed this from the nation. Twopenny and threepenny posts in London, besides letters, carry pamphlets and any kind of parcels of four ounces weight—three miles for twopence, and twelve to fifteen miles for threepence. Has the Post-office, or any of its boasted liberal, active Postmas ters-General promulgated the above facts as to this most use 4'.d oo.voyal 4ro,d'ing p.oplo ? No ; they have done the very contrary. They have not only not com municated the principle and the practice acted on in and around London, but they have carefully concealed and with held both. Is there any other town or district in the three kingdoms which have parcel posts? No, not one. Have two penny letter posts been withheld? No ; they have at last been partially conceded, when it was impossible longer to charge fourpence, or to refuse them on the principle of distance. Why have the Post-office officials acted thus unfairly and ungenerously ? I solve the question thus :—My belief is, it has arisen from the utter ignorance of tho Postmasters- General of the real substantial working of the business of their office. They knew nothing of the matter ; and consequently, unknowingly sanctioned the u itlable greed of revenue of Sir Francis Freeling, who all along has been the real Postmaster- General. Demand, then, to be placed directly on the same footing as London, and to have twopenny parcel posts in every town and village. See what benefits the inhabitants of Lon don receive from this kind of post, and then only judge of the advantages trade and commerce would every where receive if these were established all over the country. Believe me when I tell you, that the Post-office revenue would benefit by them in the same degree as would the trade and commerce of the nation; and as these posts are conducted with public money, every community has an equal right to them. Let me once more remind the public that postage, properly and legally so called, is by statute law chargeable on the dis tance only of one place from another, Here arises the ques tion of how does it happen, and tram what source has come the adding of penny-pnatafte, over and above the postage chargeable on lettera passing through the general post ? I will solve this, First, then, I assert that the superadded postage has been contrived, encouraged, and enforced in every pos sible case, in the most insidious and hidden manner by the Post-office authorities, until I took that department to task ; and even now, in spite of its discomfiture, it continues its un generous gripe up to this very moment, under the subterfuge of Postmaster-General's patent law, whenever the cries of its victims are not loud enough to be heard in high places, or the still more cogent reasoning with this subservient department of men high in power and influence crying out. The people at large will soon now see they have a right to put an end en tirely to the partial, impolitic system I have described ; to efs feet which, they must give up petjtjemieg for the redress of isolated local inflictions and grievanees—and join hand in hand in removing the baneN Incubus from the whole nation. The motion I am tq submit carries out this general principle, and you will please give it and this a place in your Journal, should you think them worthy of the space required for so lengthy a statement.—l am, Sir, your very faithful servant, ROBERT WALLACE. London, June 15th, 1836. • " Mr. Wallace—To call the attention to the whole sys tem of communication by post, domestic, colonial, and foreign ; and to the rates of postage, general, twopenny, and one penny, with a view to reduction, by an altered scale+ ; and by putting an end to penny-postage on letters and newspapers which have passed through the General Po I—To the powers, duties, and emoluments of Pnat-ataoe Surveyors and Deputy Post masters :—To the groat want of permanent Post-offices in cen tral situations, in towns ; and the present practice of obliging Postmasters to find Post-offices, Clerks, and other official re quisites, out of their own income :—To the present inconsis tent, inconvenient, and voluminous code of laws for the regula tion of communications by post ; and thus draw the attention of the Commissioners of Post-office Inquiry, his Majesty's Mi nisters, and this House, to the urgent necessity of a consolida tion of these laws, while the future controul and management of this great department is being re-modelled," THE ENIPEROR NApoLzoN. ,--Count Las Cases's far-famed book " The Life ; Kane, and Conversations of Na poleon," is now contOotod in Twenty Weekly P ar t s , pric e One Shilling eaoh, with no less than twenty spirited illustra tims ; and we arc rejoiced to find that this singularly cheap Edition (published at about ape f ifth of its former cost) has met with the success it deserves. " This work is of the highest interest. The author enjoyed constant opportunities of gra. tifying our curiosity respecting the Emperor, from having the advantage of living in his household, and passing daily many hours in his society, either conversing with him, hearing him read, and comment on the works of various authors, or writing at his dictation. His generous devotion to Napoleon, whose fortunes he volunteered to follow in the hour of his fall—the zeal and ability with which he served him to the last=give the Count a claim to the esteem of every honourable mind. His book, too, wears the appearance of perfect accuracy ; and, there can be no doubt that, generally speaking, his Journal may safely be trusted. There are few things more attractive in this narrative than the extraordinary candour of the Empe ror's remarks upon his own history, and on the persons with whom he has come in contact."—Edinburgh Review. The Plymouth regatta is fixed for the 20th, 21st, and 22d of this month, when the town is expected to be very full of company. A few days ago a quarrel arose in the streets of Mentz between a male and female mendicant, originating in jealousy of their respective success in duping the public. From words they came to blows, and in the conflict the woman tore from the head of her opponent a bandage with whioh cow of his eyes was covered. Her rage was calmed OA the instant by finding that she had been raising IoT hand against her own husband, to whom she syas married in 1809, but from whom she separated year after, and had not seen since. They ad jourued to a wine-shop, where a reconciliation took place over a jovial glass.—French Paper. ;t ADDRESS FROM THE BRITISH RE SIDENTS IN PARIS TO LOUIS PHILIPPE. A meeting of the British and American residents in Paris was held on Saturday afternoon at Musard's Concert room, in the Rue St. Honore, to take into consideration the propriety of addressing his Majesty, the King of the French, on his late happy escape from assassinations Tins was the result of a preliminary meeting at the library of Mr. Reynolds, 55, rue Neuve St. Augustin, on Wednesday last, and of some steps taken by Messrs. Ga lignani for a meeting to be held at Musard's Concert. room, to propose measures of the same kind. It was do , _ cided by all parties concerned that one general meel.ing should take place, and the time and place of it beir. g an _ nounced in the English journals published in Paris, it was held accordingly. Sir Sydney Smith took the chair at half past three, and briefly called the attention of the gentle man assembled to the object for which they b een . summoned together ; and expressed his most anxious hope that only one feeling of unanimity Reynolds, as S ecre t ary , read ter from L prevail. M r . apologising f or hi s a b se n , L e , o lord Granvill e , n account of, his wishing that the mee ti ng ould appear to be perfectly spon taneous ; MO, a note from the American Consul, Mr. Brent, to the same effect, was also read. In both these 'otters the most cordial approbation in the object of the meeting was expressed. By order of the Chairman, the address was then read by the Secretary, and was received with marked approbation. On the motion being put that it be adopted, a conversation arose. to the propriety of its being presented to the King n French as well as English. On the meeting being z. sured by Sir it. Steele and other gentlemen, that his Ma , jesty would receive it with equal pleasure in the original language, as on a former occasion, the suggestion of a douiAe address was abandoned, and the motion was adopted by acclamation. Sir R. Steele then moved that the Committee, nominated at the previous meeting to draw up the address, should be empowered to name 24 gentlemen-12 American and 12 English—who, in addi tion to the Venerable and Gallant Chairman, should form a deputation to carry up the address to his Majesty. Thi motion was seconded by Mr. Carnes, and, after a conver sation as to the propriety of a smaller or greater number than twenty-five being appointed, as tending to show th respect of the meeting for the King, was adopted.. A vote of thanks was then proposed by a distinguished American gentleman to the Gallant Admiral in the Chair, and carried with much enthusiasm. A. vote of thanks was also given to Messrs. Galignani and Rey nolds, for their liberal and effective aid in furthering the objects of the meeting ; and to M. Chabran, the pro prietor of Musard's concert-room, for the gratuitous use of it upon that occasion. The Committee were also em-. powered by the meeting to learn from the King's aide-de. camp de service, the time when his Majesty would, b e pleased to receive the address, which, in the meantime , was ordered to lie for signatures at the libraries of Messrs. Reynolds and Galignani on alternate days. The vieeting broke up at five o'clock, and only one feeling pomaded it, of respect to the King, and of indignation at t'ae late at tempt. About 300 American and English gentlemen of high respectability were present. The folk wing gentlemen are members of the Committee :—Sit Sidney Smith, Sir R. Steele, Mr. Niles, Mr. Mortimer, and Rev. Mr. Mil ton. A copy of the address, and a list of the deputation, will be published at the time of the presentation. KING'S BENCH.-TUESDAY. THE JUNG V. VAUGHAN AND OTRIRS. This was an indictment against Richard Vaughan the elder, Richard Vaughan the younger, Smith, Philpotts, Angle, Baldwin, Pledger, s,eston, Davis, and Haig, for a conspiracy, fraudulently to prove debts under a commission issued against Smith, w;Ali a view to defraud Smith's bona fide creditors, or to influence the choice of assignees under the bankruptcy. After hearing the statements of Counsel and their witness, The Jury returned a verdict as follows :—" Vaughan and smith guilty on the first and second counts ; Angle guilty on the second count. The other defendants not guilty," but the Jury begged to express the strongest cen sure on their conduct as being most irregular. COMMON PLEAS.-TUESDAY. SALAAM V. BIRMINGHAM. This was an action for a false arrest. The plaintiff in 1832 became a bankrupt, and at the time of his bankruptcy he had a policy of insurance in the Sun Fire Office. The premium of the policy not being punctually paid it became forfeited. However, at the time of its forfeiture, it being continued so long, the directors of the Company agreed to pay the bonus due on it to the plaintiff, provided the de fendant, who was assignee of the plaintiff, would join in a me morial to tho Board, which was accordingly done. Th e plaintiff received the amount of the bonus, but was arrested by the defendant as the assignee of the estate, upon the ground of his signing the memor'al to the Board of Direc tors. The jury found a verdict for the plaintiff—da mages, 201. EXCHEQUER COURT.-.TUESDAY, WATERMAN V. CLARK AND OTHERS, This was an action of trespass, and the declaration charged the defendants with having forcibly entered and broken into plaintiff's dwelling-house, and taken away divers goods the property of plaintiff, and also with having as saulted and imprisoned plaintiff. To this the defendants pleaded—first, not guilty ; secondly, that the plaintiff was not in possession of the premises ; thirdly that the goods were not the property of the plaintiff ; and lastly, they jus tified the assault—that it was first committed by plaintiff within the view of a peace-officer, to whom plaintiff was given in charge. The Jury found for the plaintiff on the issue of Not Guilty, under the direction of his Lordship, and for the defendants on the other issues. ARCHES COURT-TUESDAY. RAY V. SHERWOOD AND RAY, OTHERWISE SHERWOOD. This was an appeal from a decision of the Consistorial Court of London in a cause of nullity of mkrriage, by rea son of affinity, promoted by Mr. Robert Ray, of Grove House, Edmonton, against Mr. Thomas Moulden Sher wood and Emma Sarah Ray, the ckughter of the party proceeding. The case has already been on several occa sions before the public. • Sir H. JENNER said that be must take some time for considering the judgment. CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT. FORGERY.— WiIIiam Bowman, aged :18, pleaded guilty to an indictment for feloniously forging and uttering an order for 450/., with intent to defraud Sir Richard Carr Glyn and others, the bankers. A verdict of Guilty was accordingly recorded. Charles Brown, aged 19. was indicted for stealing 56 lbs. weight of lead, the property of the governors of St. Bartholomew's Hospital. The jury found the prisoner Guilty. The REcoanEtt informed the prisoner that he Inyd com mitted a very serious offence, and must expect to be sent out of the country for some years. The Court, for want of Bills, rose at half-past 4 ojclock. SURREY SESSIONS.-TUEgDAY. Thanzas Stanley, clerk to a solicitor in Chancery-lane, was indicted for stealing a glass cruet and three ale glasses, the property of Elizabeth Fisher, the landlady of the Ele phant and Castle, at Newington. The case was clearly proved. The Jury returned a verdict of Guilty, but strongly re commended the prisoner to mercy on account of a domestic eakinity which had befallen him, and also in consideration of his former good character. The CHAIRMAN said, that in consequence of the recom mendation of the Jury the Court would pass a l en i ent sente nce on the prisoner, namely, that he be imprisoned for seven days in the County Gaol, but that in the event of a repetition of the offend his domestic calamity would not avail him. pOLICE INTELLIGENCE. MARLBORO U GH-S TREET. yesterday, two journeymen hatters, named havis end Burke, were brought b e f ore M r . DYER, charged with having created a disturbance in Crown-street, Soh o , at the shop of a hatter named Ni c holson. _ It appeared that the journeymen hatters are establish ing. a " Union," and are going round the trade compelling workmen to join their combination. Parties of these per sons visited several shops at the West end of the town in the course of Monday, and about nine in. the evening seve ral of the same trade, among whom was Burke, came to the shop occupied by Nicholson, who is not a unionist, and began pulling about his goods. The intruders went away, but shortly afterwards Burke miurned, and began abusing Nicholson, and threatening him. Among the crowd which this conduct collected wust Davis, a journeyman hatter, and also an unionist, wile, on being appealed to by Nicholson for assistance agaihats Burke, said he would not see an old shopnwo ►lt-used, and he turned to and was bestowing a druhbing on Burke, when the police came to the spot. and took both into custody. Mr. DYER, having heard the whole case, deciajw. oo holding both the defendants to bail. " I talk a gocd deal, but I talk well," said a ,chat terbox, in the hearing of M. De Beautrie, "E 'Rt . that is true," replied the wit. I