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• i 41sion tliitiel* which 1 did it was, the t Lord Clan- , .. uy' i owing iliio earliatuerit might -thereby be fae•t , • ! ." If on that simple sentence he, without any • m nent., whatever; were to submit to .the Hotise a resolution of censure, it.would be impossi ble for them - lo 'dissent from it; - He could not see how any delinquency of such a nature could ever recei've"tlie disapprobation of the House, 'Unless that dis'approbation te - lrhpon thettirterltretifie - Ndbte - Liml upon the present instance. The evidence of Loot (.:11ticasty was as forcible and conclusive as that of the Nuble Lorcl. ' Stating, as be did, in the fil-. tuatiOu efitti'aoc;lier, he uanoliOutent himself' with merely referring, to. the recollection. of thei House, but woulil 4 poipt ; ,outlie„ passages which were the most - sit : tilting in that evidence. J-le then; read several parts:of thetvidenee i'it Lord Clanearty,l , Affil dm( It part iculutly on - the answer of ,•441ird / eqati-, Carty to 11'4 neestion. , ." Did I,,erd ,Ca oleteagh ' .0-,T r K you a ;Write.rAitip for the purpose of facilitating your returik : to.Parli;imentr To this question LorZl , :c•i.a(lCatly! ncpliedz-" certaiely," ,',lle i s evidence of Mr. Reding it was unnecessary to detnil,, as,it was , mildly in conformity.. te,thatt.given by the two No ble Lords. ...4,101 . 1 - ersre,hentUl oNsetvsep th,sit among . the' many siabfeTtli'ell s4.lree - wriin - f tiffs transaction afforded, it was"liolitliVietiStAtilifitsing to find that aettlYit'd Ve t iliott - ittiqt.lM ifVfanitfilitisittvKer Of -t! e tiNtillini,waii friiiiiikikelifitiqts-Aie\stt'Atiotild itttte i.zt+ ped ed. 4 hat the subordef f ate classes of society e t titilit be liiiiiegtt-arttLieltelirst\ie,lwon 4 llte'rtaW•dis i hilanesty , • • • pradised, and corruptiektstiOlietify ilvoWedlby their tidlietliotii4 l ^ .. He'. did , 'not , at? tilt be ignbrarit 'of the; htactitles - tvliteli , !were. supposed to prevail With rei irig(ll,l6 , ititerttlttifinitity*ats itii-that.flonse,'.and he fatpicartiOithiiitl44.lketillid Out .of.l heir Coe skier.; ;Ilion any teas which might proceed from their keowletige orittiVeiti4idnee- of: it& pradices, he thatiithittly Avast* theii‘ tante 'in addeesslng t hem .-.; 04 htifrestol that'they Would dli so: He stood there tx,v.4piftssostielipradtee'es , it...'- 41Oct-rely hoped that - the l nurse: wolad justify him, and wonldjustify their-i/wn'cltrader by thefe . ducliiToti. , riwas no palliation of the eondua of the Noble' LOrd, that . practices siviiilivr toillosto which he resorted,were known to 'exist: , The - Noble Lord was particelarly hoend to resist the temptation ivlsich •was held out to Wm. , Ks slYlembev OtParliarnent heniust , fre quently have 'concurred 'in i'eS'Olntillani censuring others. Kin ads whiCh it seemed he wasiihriself retaily to uotnthir.. As a sereant of the down, he WAS . bduud 14,4 sis colleted to uphold the character of the Governnient of which he was a member. But if there VaS one cireurnstaece which nenttered the niis eondtift of the Noble Lord pecillial4 ' flagrant,' it was - the situation which ,he had so many years held air President of the Board of Coot mel t ,' the very 'es- - ' send nOf the duty of post was to cheelc'every speciefrof'cortoption:i Ild'orie part bl the Report of the .entrimivtea- is was suited) . that hi 3 Lordishits had delivered to them a list of his; patronage. He did tiot, Isnpv/Pn- w l ,4:4,loPlind_.__lo,tllP NOW .L!ord, aii. Pre !get,: le the Board ,of Centroul, , bud, or ought to. e l oyiktnronage. , Ik.appearea,,to liiin-to be a . if? 1 riiYilifi; , tt , lipt, tosibi4.:pnitiVhe •attached little . gqctoice ; for were. elo. Nobig Lorcl to,conyince t, p i ptoefe that, this pairqnoge , wohis rightmtilhat l i ,l . e, was jui.titied, in ,clisposin&, , cif it, lit, SIIOOIEI still 4111tiltd thltip the .dispoitiuti of it the - Nobte Lord was bonnd by the same regulations as thy*: wisteli related to the patrena,.(re of aisy East India .I..)irc4tor. These regelatkons could. out possibly liave•eseaped, the. Noble, 1,,,0ri.1:s observation., The forgn nithq Oe:-. 14raticin, which it was necessary for the, : ,,Noble Lord ' to inat;,, ‘t outd be tOund in. the seventh:page, or the . Report. It; %eta to, mate,. " that lie had not re 4 eeivecl, nor ,wits.te ; receive • auv pecuniary considera.. ti..u,, , 0r any thing,convertible'lly. any mode iuto 'a pecemary netsetit." W,is it poslible not to attach to the Nobte Lord a strong suspicion that the patron age disposed, of by . him was .converted.intn it pecu- , two benefit..., (.4ord Cusaereugh expressed - his. d'is ' sent,}--- He was nappy to seas that , the Noble Lord disdainmt sach an imputation,;.but the expressions of that disdain would have come Much, better from the Noble Lord, were ii not for the evidence.ou the table. lie diselaime.l any wish to press more hard iy on „the Noble Lord than that evidence warranted ; but %ihen he saw that' the Noble Lord's patronage lad beets so disposed ef—when•hetrecolleded that that•the Noble Lord hacl,been President of theßoard of ..Controul—when he reeolleded that Lord Clan ,' carry had been a Member of that Board—when he re tnembered . t hat :Reding,. had ...been consulted by both, it was iropossiole forhint to conceive that the Noble Lord was a..straeger,to•the intended result.-- , 1-le.would.no, call the.attention of the House to a feitture of. the tratisattien Wore distressing, than any that be had yet noticed.. This was to be found in page (it eat the evidence, it) the examination of ante .Davis,. it appeared, that in a negotiation 'with a.Pilis. cloves, respeCting a IVritership, Alrs'. ,G. had mentioned to Davis the name of, Lord Castle .teagh, as an intlividiaal likely to further his put-. , p9ie. , This . was in. the .beginning of istki; and on Davis's calling . in DoWningfstreetv alid after- . ' wards at the House of Commons, the Noble Lord tt tier , led (0 he very anxious -to d&tett the parties by whom his character had been so abused, in onder that they might be exposed and.brought to-justice. - - W . .asthis a- genuine anxiety ?. When the House recollected that all this took place after the negotia tion with 1140ing, was it po-:sable for them to be li.•!te that it was so, or to give credit to the feelings Of ittilignation by wide!' the Noble Lord professed. to bo ai,i;nated ? . It was ;sot possible to, believe that he sc. ho had made himself Such a filthy instrument in Ile: former tratkiCtion, shan' be impelled by any other motive in this titan the' Itiar of dele(ition ra t her than Of guilt..., In that circumstance, however, in the itelignatien then expreSsed - by the Noble Lord, be might : tied, hail lie 'yet to seek fin- it, a justification tar` bringing forward a motion, which . bad lords ohjed to punish a similar transadion. ;•. I - fad : the Noble Lord, in the case which ballad men tioned, detel.ted•theicleliucieent, and prosecuted and convicted that delinquent of. slander, the House aniglit at that - ofoment be contemplating that indivi dual as..the subjed of the most unjust and unmerited Ittititslintetit. The Right, Hon.; the Chantellor at the Exchequer had lately .w formed the House, that in cunseqiienee of .sorne,Advertisements . that .had appeared tea the. Papers, . he. had thought•proper to lodge Money, and to take every possible step to en , ifap the parties advertising. , Had this: trap of the Chancellor of the- Exchequer's been laid a little tifiuner,.he might have been spmewhat *unitised at the pale he would have taken. It would havo/astO. i nislied hid) to h ive f.pringed ell? of his own lea s. He could nut avoid noticing one , point, which Might appear to pl-Am• liiinkrn an invidious si. tuationo In the Report on the table, `although the Iholetif the evideacesas detailed, yet there,seeined' inclination on the part of the Committee to point. out to the House the delinquency ofthe Noble Lord. He felt that this was an argument against, him Self ; bat entertaining, -- as he did, the - higtiarralFitrflir that Committee, be oontended, that it 'tvaiinot the indispensable obligation of every individual Member of the House to acquiesce wholly in auy report that might he made by'any Committee,however reipea ble. What could possibly occasion the deficiency to whiet! lie alluded, - in the report of the Committee, was at a loss to discover. He was equally igtio ,rant on, what grounds the . Noble Lord's condu§t r could be justified .or. extenuated: If he should hear general corruption, or the prevalence of sittiilar pra4ices, pleaded hy. theftiends of the Noble Lord, .1)9 should have a sufficient answer in the observa, tion,, that had former transactions, of a similaj flat - ture met with the. censure of the House, it would havo been doubtful whether the present trzinsaction. mould ever have occurred for their investigfttiop.. He then reeapitttlated . the various points of his speech, anticoncludediby Moving, if such a proposition were regular, that the evidence of Lord 'CiiAlercagh . and Lord Clancarty,` taken betbre theCornmittee on 016 Disposal of East , India Patronage, be entered as read. The SITAICER abSerVed, that the- course pUrsued by, the. Noble Lord was. such as. had ; been nano- tinned by the practic,t .of a hundred years. When- ever a charge was grounded on documents upon the table, it was the usual course to move that those do contents be read. Lord CASTLEREAGH then rose. He declared that before 4e,entgred on the immediate fiLlbjla ;of disctission, he could not refrain from expressing his regret, that bx . any aet or supposed act of his -the tune' and attention of the House should he thus oc cupied. No one felt more deeply than he di l / 4 1 for the privileges of Parliament, and no one was.more solicitous tip uphold them. He . was. perfealy pre pared to admit with the , Noble Lord, that with reference to the complaint made agai ns t hi m , h e , was subjea lo a peculiar and. mere than ordinary responsibility. He trusted that if he committed any 'error. Mille discharge of his official duty, he should be able to• prove that .than error had not arisen frcm 'any unworthy motive ; and he assured the . House; . that in the explanation which his . duty' to himself and to then bound him to give,' he 'should be careful mit 'to satiCtion any prin ciple which might be permanently injurious to the' country. He walieglad• of the course that had been Pursued; he was glad that the Nobje 'Lerd had htated .his general view, - .of, the transaction be fore he had been called upon to give' his explana tion. The highest criminality which iheirnagatation of the Noble Lord imputed to htirly was foundedbn that which proceeded from lirs Own lips; it vris the result of his own adtnissiou, and was not grounded on the evidence of others. He trusted, however, that he , should ,be able to prove that it was indeed but' intlgi-; nal ion/and 'that it bad no reid existence and solidity: Considerable Aggravations of the case had gone forth.. In the first place, he had to contend, that the crans right , or ,wrong; did .nut proceed from any deiiherate or intentional purpose on his part, to ac- Hquire by any means an undue influence in that ouse: In the whole of the evidence taken before, the Committee,- at . it related to the occurrences of several years,- there was no 'single instance acidneed. of 'any attempt on : his part to exercise hitt:patron age tor the purpose of obtaining political influence in the House of CoMmons. • No suet'? purpeseeVer eti tared his mind. It , had never occurred to, him, So, to uses the patronage of his office; although ltad such been his disposition, the Hops° might readily con; Ceive that there were moments in which that patron age might have been rendered available to such pur poses with considerable erred. He. fairly avowed that he contemplated with peculiar regret the cir curnstances which lied brought him into contad with such an individual as Reding, At that time he had no notion that such a charaCter existed in society as a trafficking broker; He , begged that the Noble Lord %vauld at least wait until the conclu s i o n o f what he had to offer, and that he would not so soon 'abandon his deliberative capacity. He repeated, that upon his honour, ~at the time he had an interview with Mr. Rediug, he had no .conception that such a charader existed as a trafficking broker. He was not aware that any objetiion existed to the exertions of an individual, for the purpose of facilitating the return of another individual to Parliament, uttleei that exertion were coupleti with undue . influence - of another nature. He had conceived that•l‘lr. Reding u Gentleman who bad a commtinieatioo of snob it eaturealone to make. As such beliad met him, and as such he had answeredliim; He' had seen him for the purpose of ascertaining whether his.power was confined to himself, or Whether he chose to . exercise it in favour of any other individual. 'Having stated this, he supposed that no one would, impute to him Inter. ester! motives. With.respeEt to his wish, that Lord Claucarty,should have a seat in that House, it was promptedby a view of the pubic advantage; for he conceived that the abilities of that Noble-Lord were such that' lie would beentineetly serviceable in Par lilment. It appeared most'distinaly, froth th e ev i.: dence bclore the Committee, that the only circurn- stance of turpitude in the transa6tion was an acci- dental feature of it. That lice had a share in any. pe, cuniary transaelion connected with it, there was no . - ,t lung whatever_ to prove. The th;tig itself was phy vitally impossible; there was a security against it in tho.parties concerned, for it must have been a sale either between a father and a son, or betwe e n an uncle , and 'nephew. He, declared most solemnly, that from the time of his conversation with Reding he had never , any communication with Lord Clan early on the subjed. It pertealy appeared that Lord Clancarty was ignorant of the oiled in view; tor on Reding's refusing to declare by whom he was employca,'the negociation' was broken ofd • The Nobte . Lord seemed to ground much importance on the evidence at a Mr. Davis. The fad was, that he never saw. Davis in his life, and could assure the House that he. neyer had any communication with him. Altogether _distinct from the question now. be fore them, and at _another time, he did receive let ter from that - person respealing a W ritership, which lie stated to be offered by'the Board of Controul ; but all the notice he (Lord Castlereagh) took o f this abominable proposal was to (fired Davis to go be,- fore the Committee and disclose all he knew on the .1.,0rd A. ,stibjea ; and 'to 'make sere of his attendance, he helots ee-- Went to the Chairnian:next. morning 63 procure his enforcement of it. The Noble Lord also imputed to him an official `power of .recommending persons which he did not possess. Of the power he really enjoyed, ho could say, that he had never tram ferred it even to his most ; bet ways retained the privilege of examining the candi dates till the very end of the transaction, in order to be himself aware that they were:properly quhlified: I This was , evident in the very: cage now alluded tee f ,As for the. aggravation imputed..to his conduct, from his being President of the BOardof Controul, be- I *sides what he had already sail!, on that Subjea, lie 1 eapprehended; that although the letter of the law , ' , might seem.partly to bear out thecontrary argnereeit the Constitetion never supposed' the executive), 1) Vo vernment was to • have no ; power in these tet:or mendatiuns, The law was calculated mer e ly to ',I break the mass.. of power , preciously held "by the Crown, and give . a portion Sii . it e lAiConct' of ~Direce tors ; but no one Was ever so romantic as to suppose that Governinerit.Was td"liateo•4tVrliTte fit 'all in re . commendilig periiins to suck,sl4,tenS., l ' The . .4atall share. of timer which the .Coure at Direflorr from grace and courtpsy alloWed to the BoardniCentreul or the Yresidat Of it, bad no illeffeCt. Bnefaleave the matter of proptiety,in.grauting.illis power to re_- commend, he contended that as it did grow oat of hie . official deity, Jet; was not mere responsible for it than if he bad not been in office, as' indeed : raany persons out of office equally enjoyed. Anil as for the.. declaration' Mentioned by th l O','Nobie 'Lord, it at, Cached na:triore to him asePreident of the Bow-chef Controul - than it would to any 'other servant of the Crown. He dicl not v. Ise to intrstele much :upon the time and attention of the House.; the ,case was be fore theta fairly:andeeenly, as he'himsell had dis closed it.. Whatever personA,_recutivenietice he mightexpea to ensue, finding 644 .was' his -mis fortune io.liave with a person `of the descrip tion ef Mr. it.ding, he hacl.deteresinedio• meet any karliamentary charge rather than pot make a full disclosure to the , Committee:. • 'He had'denethis, leaving it to the dkeretion of Pailianient to judge the matter as they saw proper. No corrupt influence of . any kind,- he, declared Upon his honour, bad pre sented itself I to his mind iu the trarisaetion. supposed tbe party wishing .to retire of the most re. speclable kind; and in the habits of acing with the Admink:ration 'Of that time. It was . net therefore to add to the *Weight of their party, or, attack the privileges `of the House, that he had =listened to the conversation of Nice Reding. . It was impossible Ilia[ the irant of the • favoer required, ,could , corrupt an , ' eleetton, .for, happily for thee-country,. places did teiet,..front whence...men ofereseetaable ,charaiSter, lia‘Ving the:interests. of .their Coentry at heart, and ready.to support her measures, could•without'cor nylon find ,their ‘way'llito that, I . louse, It vitas ne cessary fits Carrying on the systeet of Government that thiashould. t 'the case, aa it Wichbeedcriti&fid sd by.some greats is on 'good grounds,' with, whose • opinion lie perfAly closerepresen takitin.wateindispereiably ttece;sary for the business of the emery, 4mOitto send men to Parliament, who, from : fyom stodioits and lehttle betritie,ind.', from . other : ceases, not , take a share in, popular and general eleaiona. The qu'estibtt then was, was it : justifiable in lihn, as a tavolis4revin hisoflicial-situationor from himself,- to . promote the interests Of Lied' (lane:my?: Suppose Ilia intention 'to 'have been Carried into .enecetion (though be never took a praelie,ll step to that etreet, which, however, he would not erge in his detente, lest it might be construed hercalterinto what might be a popular injury), the 1aw:1444. - 0e ieterpre,t it into breach of the law of . ereafonte" Aneeiettio4 so procured 'would be valid, and' ;to coetept -trifle= flick, would be . inferred. But in the situation Ire stood as Minister of the Crown; lie • would;,.whither in or out of office, ever maintain this doctrine, that they ought to give their" influence to these Who would uphold_ and support Government ,on .liberal pies.' This position he intended generally,- and not as applying to individuals and particular From the danger of laying deem the principle tiro idly, be could not in strictness be justified in signifying that he would grant a favour, for which therestilt would be a seat in Parliament. He left it to the cool eon sideration of the House,' whether a cursory conver sation and incipient conception:Of a matter, which, if executed, was not legally wrong, should be,sub, JeCted to any heavy penalty. With respeetto the evi deuce of Reding, it was so notoriously false thseno part of it was to•be depended upon. He was sure, as a specinien of its Accuracy; that all who kneW hint would be aware that he could prOve an alibi, to playing cards, as given in hit testimony. The irans action was such, 'that it could, not, be entered ;into with a view to concealment, .Tl 4 case could not from its nature, -by a possibility be kept a secret.—. The retirement of a person friendly to Administra tion from the. House, the rearm of Lord Claucarty in his place ) and tbe-appointment of his sun or ne phew to a Nifritetship, Must of rieCteelity open the eyes of every Director -and, every-'Member of - the House tame circumstances: if,' therefore, he had acted rashly, there was at least no Moral turpitude in his conduct which, he kneW must. thus be discovered to the whole world.; He did net set-up as a defence that his idea had tieVei bqen'act,edinion upon , but if there ' werelines of distinction te he drawn in these cases;this was an important consideration. Nothing had been done, and it was elways in his power to have put an end to theiransaction. WoUld they believe that he, merely to ..oblige a -private friend, would have become a party to,. any transaetion with an im prestion on his mind that it was a breach of the pri vileges of Parliament, thereby exposing himself to the painful situation in Which he now stood ; to the sacrifice' Of all that was dear to him 'As arnan hi his character and . public situation ? Having stripped the case of the aggravation's with which it had been at tempted to load it ; 681 he could not possibly ba . Ve any corrupt Motive ; and that there was no vote of an ele6,tor to be corrupted, nothiug.rnore became him but to lament • the inadvertency into which an anxiety to serve a friend, and procure the assistance of a colleague acquainted with' the busi ness of the Board of Coetroul in Parliament, had . w buiTied him (and which, if f o ll owe d up as a prin . cleigeples into , danger} he must confess fi ,id a iluninit t) )k ly bring their privi submit to their decision. Having finished his defence, his Lordship bowed to the Chair, and withdrew. Ilia item, HAMILTON theii rose and re,ld tst. That it appears to the Clouse, from the evidence on the table, that the Lord Viscount Castlereagh, in the year lilies, - shortly after he hid quitted the situation of President, of the Board of Conti - mil, and being a Privy Counsellor an d Secretary Of State, 441 place at tho disposal of Lord CLlllt inlay, a l‘Pmber tit die said hoard, the nomination tea' Writership, in order to facilitate hit arocuring.*SeatjaPir liarncet: • • ' ad. That it was owing to a disagreement ainopg the subor. , dinate parties, that this trai,sacti.in did not take elect ; iNICi aci,, , That by this conduct Lord Castlereagh had been gui lt y oft gross violation . ° f his duty. as ,a servant 4?;:t he Crown; abuse: of his pationage:as President Of the-Board of .CanirPe); still.= 'attack:Upon the purity of that House. '•" The.first Resokution being put,by the Speaker, ,Lord fittitoo. said, as-the. Noble Lord (Castle- • . r reagh) would not defend his condnet upon . pie, so neitherhibtild he enter Coon that courtic.--. He lainented, „front hi; personal regard to him, that could not be &mei , but therewas yet a good deal Jobe derived from the evidOce, which in part did away malty of the position s 'maintained by the Noble Lord,Who brought forward htis charge. Here the -, Noble Lord Went into the evidence, and contended theref rom, that there Wa. no inetition p of t*-40pciiirof patronage by Lord Castlereagh; as , President ofthsAigard df Contronl. Iv Reding. he supposed simply Id: a g ent . of. tt . 'pitrty Gladly. to titßanMent; 'and' c„rczhttilti:4ll a seat in PM:litiment, -Colaur, ot- orieof the same f) O brat way rif:titit . ire,and had t.ent",.ft . t 1.:16411 , 151511i'at stihjek4: Tiiii the head and front of his offendiu, and w3s W.I Ilt) (bores Itilirrii-orzer—teciairiTteritioi7. Ertel iloped his Noble Fitidnltakid'A . .HAniiltor.) would, noi deittikedso hitiriturnar;)ry ni.,tter ruonos. His Noble Frtend taff.statediinit it was and the he s.voillApotprt-sii inird . opon the Noble g Secretary. He wished he had ki pt to this expressed resolution, and not entered iruo . what there was not a single ,tittle of evidence to support, se: consider , it as a pecuniary transaction, and 'what was, eq.ual, ly 'ntirair; to enlist the case at Davis into this. with which it had no connection. . It -appeared that the only return Davis - Met - with from . the Noble Lord . was indignation'at Ins' proposal ani yet this was to. be so turned, as to try to make it appeal that this inth i gpaut feelivg did tint proceed from a fair mill Pr9Per source. Noble Secretary must iitond or fall. on the case, and. whatever was the punishulenti it was for unextcUted intention.. He thought : that proposed,by muck too severe ; and suggested with out any consideration. of the proportions iir dis tinaions :which Ought to hold ill visiting offences. It could not, be followed up by less than from Otlice ; and though this was in some said - not to be punishment, • in this, where charges, were made, and accusations preferred,ic would be one of the most severe and could be adopted'. Under theie . consideratiotni , trusted the . House would exercise the. sod lion.appealed - to:' by the Noble Lord (c.sstlerogl) , an 1 while they did jus'.iee,tei' the ,public, do it also to the indhidu2l. He concluded by that tha other .Ordersid the D.iy be now read. No ll t f ie r. at er t . Lord , he certainly ' did dot chiding motion, as . atter cneiiaerleg- ponisheient pro posed by the 1‘ . ,- . 16 1 ,•er of eeestien as .e.trftee. too . sto t le t tr :e vlCl ß ei ; a 7;t 4 o l o c d llll oC: titrtaollieisPl3-rel:clirluttiludeles7il;t7v:bsel‘':°l4l;:liass;:tt;le:Yll:). as unworthy of detainiug them from tile. more im portant business of the day. Il i ; allowed that l:er e wo4 a great difference. betee en intention and cis.; cution ; but ~ sere they to 'say t hat emeriti& :into sec ii thTotlati( ne as no reilmwe ? ,Wh'en an -eXchate;e:ot patronage ter a seat(in n....ime,ut was the bte,..eun, were 1 -1 e l - to eXpreSi tio lieu or resolutioe on subs ct ' It (night, at least, have* been exp. CI , train the Noble Lop% that it he thought, the coursotoo severe ; lie would have proposed to sotto it by substituting other words for those ,objected 'and. if the resolutions then protectedthe House BO the CoUntry from the recurrence of such trahoe' it would have 'been his duty to give 004 'every cansideration. Ho did net- wi . sh. to cli3gol"' that sect) practices had exiited, and that limey, tuet,; dexterous thin the Noble "Lord, had escaped detec tion ; but when the. matter was brought' Borne bY evidence, was he to be suffered to escape ? It se, it was to say that any person in his situation alight tti' to market and sell his patrimage. He had heald th j it was customary for Secretaries of -State to use t kit influence in this manner at every general clec;ir)ll' If it was so common, they might feel sorry for i: dividual exposed to - -punishment for an es iabliAlle" practice; but stilt they had' but* one course tO l'" r " sue, and must do their duty. There were, he knew' many in the 'Housewho maintained that there v"' no berm in bribery, and Itiat a sear i n t e st Hon° was not vitiated by being obtained by money ; as acting under the Act of Parliament thermust - 1 7 it their duty to conform to 'the'. law. Por his O rl i '. he agreed *in the spirit and letter of the resoluti t ';', °- 1779, by whiel no Minister of the Crown could Iluence the election of Mein bers of that Heese , 1; oar bkifig guilty of a breach of privilege.* It 0 , 31 . ""' the . East India Company ought to be grateful l, , 1 11 " - " ing %veil clealified4persous recommended to the n !' l t h a e u t '' s a i i i s t e t c i c a o o t t i t t:s: t i d l d . ,: n r o e s d t o B l7l l 7:t ti p l e ? j r ( u s , o n s ti t t ic s o e , t: i o t e a f t ,i , e l t Mee delivered by the Committee, that all procured their appen - e:ieeits ought 1(4 be teeall e ,f, life blasted'. In seetiment c nt,;‘i but if it was well fou:c ' l l e " d l , l)3 ll:en a l l iy ri t ' ! . . l' men in office, vyhoe eat ronogeleio to undergo the plinishment. lu the case,. tile patron was aware at . the . 36125 e. 1 ! 1)(- Dot Justify, himself.. This latter ciretimata»ce .e } ii considereci as much in his favour, and ought to ")(t.(4 the rigour of his punishmeot. It teats muc h bet: : so than if lie had stool-up unblushing, as rite')' witnessed on farmer ocea . sons, t eli ded L i aelf,,on the itore.ot receiving,. no pt.euttiary ;la ! ! tags, He wished a censure to pass, to shew nothing of this kind could be brit;gl2l under without incurring * . It V.Z,!ii ;', ovellecl, 1 11 ; 4 • door to every thing of t the ,'!er, Parliament of -1809 would !,., • =p h! to future tunes; *lien . Might be el ' carried to a Cce,usion, oe ne c; rnenti being annexed to (1-e ;(7e provet dence, and canfes!;ed. ay• the pa. :v. le I ,:;, th Dirors cella not to be in ii,e liat)it changing Livour3 with iliese wbo wei 3;,1.1'.y . controui them, but he did not wish so, s.