The Sun. — London, England, 1818-04-16 00:00:00

heis of the Royal Family between - hint an( sire 'Throne, yetthry were older and hml no children. Mr. SAMUEL ThIORNyoN, after alluding to the liberal conduct of the Duke of Gloucester, which had gailitgl the esteem of the country, expreised Iris inttntiOn of voting . for - the reduced sum. Lord GOwea stared, that 'd tr 'I L .► the three years' residence which her !loyal nigh.ess the DucheSs of CYnnber!-Intl had twide in tit's cooli try, she had acquired its respect, and that the more she should be known the more would-she be found thy of esteem. Mr. BARCLAY here signified his readiness to withdraw his amendment ; but there being some cries in the negative, the - chairman,(Mr. Brogden) decided that a divi<ion Mu% t.l ake place. The question was . then loudly for, and strangers were - mitered to w ili,d raw . Th t House,however, did not divide. airing the S . rangers' absenc,e from he gallery, which lasted neatly three-guar tet:s of an hour, it was understood that the House proreedert as f o ll ows MrTtERNEv requested Mr. ; BARCLAY t with draiv amendment,,in Which proposal the Hon. Member acep.iesced.. Lord Gowelt spokein favour of the vote of 'et grant to his Royal Highness the Duke of Cum; berland, and expatiated on the exemplary conduct of the Duchess during her residence in this coun try. The Noble Lord stated, that her expenses were deftayed by the King of Prussia, in conse quence of P?rliament having refused to vote her an establishment. Sir CnirttLF.S MORDAUNT spoke in Tavour of-the smaller sum proposed. Mr , Lmuirros complained of the dilemma in which he was - placed. He observed, that he was agains• any gr , ant ; and that if .he voted against the 60001., he _might occasion a majority in favour of. the 10,0001„ to which he was still more adverse. - Sit GI LBERT lEATHCOTE thought that 114 e pre- sent incomes of the jnoior brand►es of the Royal Fa►nily were ample enough. lie, as an individual, was obliged to attend to his doMestie concerns,, and he thought they ought to do - the same.—(Some disapprobation was here' expressed.)-lle would bow to the opinion of the House, and was sorry to. give them umbrage, as lie never intended to - . . give offence to any individual.—(Hclar, hear !) Mr. CA.VPRT OhferVed, that rhe,..difficulty arose from the embarrass - cc, circumstances of the coun try. He that the utmost economy ought to' he observed in the intended grants. • Mr. liROUGFIAM adv,rted •to - the difficulty com plained of by Alt. Lamblon, and recommended }irn to vote in the. tiro instance for the smaller sum, which merely pledged the Committee to a grant not. exceeding 60601., atter which lie might, in- a sobs , q-ent state, vote for reducing that suip to an amount merely no-flirt +1 - Mr. TIPRNEY - understood that the Noble Lord- meant /0 propose s ,, m'ething by w•ay of doweiT, to whirl, be bad no objection, and therefore would Pin concur in any vote that ul:ght break up the Committee. Mr. CANNING Colltericted, that csith respect to bis Royal Pighness-the Duke of Clarence, it would never have titered into his contemplation !c) engage in the proposed alliance, if it had not been pressed upon hint as an act of public duty.— (Hear,. hear, and laughter !)—When be bad been desired to state on Atik at conditions he would conCraet:the mafriage, he had wished then; to belitnited to !hp provision of std; me a ns as wo,:id prevent hint ft on; incurring debts, and becoming in that udions manner a bindle!) to the conntry. With respect to his ancient debts, he bad himself madea pro vision for the payment of their interest and the oltimate liquidation of the. capital. It was not, therefore; an embarrassed man who applied for assistance ; he would not have wanted aid had-he tint been about to marry; and he did n o t 7onte a er thil 'alliance for his private desire and gratifiCation --(l0nd latighter)—but because it was pressed upon him to secure the succession to the throne. If there was any thing ridiculous in this, let the House thank the state of its laws ; let it thank that prohibition which Clad precluded the Princes Of 'the Royal Family from contraeting marriages of liking, and insisted , on their looking abroad for . wivis. But when, .in obedience to those laws, and to advice, they engaged in marria,ges, not of liking—(Hear, hear, and laughter)—for bow cont'd there • be any liking-between persons who had never seen each other, but founded on. public grounds alone, was it fair for the House_ to turn round upon then; ? The 'interval which bad _occurred between the bringing down of the. Message and the-present discussion had been em ployed in investigations Which Enabled him to state; that with 1.0,0001. additiona! a year; it was the opinion, not Of the Duke of Clarence himself, brit of the persons most conversant in the domestic concerns of the Royal household, that his Royal Flighneis could not take up o n himself the state and dignity - of a married Prince without incurring the danger of contra( Ong fresh debts.- This opi nion was given by those who had been &tiled to ascertain how low the proposition could be' brought. Front the infornration since collected by Alluisters,,they had felt it their duty, in obe dience to the tint to be mistaken sense of the nouse, to reduce the grants which they had in tended to propose.—(Hear, hear, bear !)—But they thought that less than 10,0001. additional would neither gratify his Royal Highness nor the country,lf it wished to enable him to sup port his establishment • without the disgrace of btirthensome debts. If the House voted only 60001. which might afterwards be redueed still lower, it would, in fat*, vote to nullify the con tract of. marriage of his Royal Highness. In voting 10;0001. it would only vote one half what Ministers intended to have proposed-- (Hear, hear l)—and what, though it might have been maintained by fair argument, they had sur rendered to the sense of the house.—(Hear, bear ! and laughter.)—He therefore trusted the House would come to a decided vote in favour of a provision, less than which would be wittily insufficient. Mr. WoDEHowts expressed his decided deter mination to _s - upport the amendnient...ptopused by the , liotr. :11entber for Surrey. :sir. W....SMITH thought that any grants which might be thought necessary might be taken from Other sources than those - proposed.. Ali , . Windsor :Establishment was on such a footing that it could yida a stilt equal to the - end in vie*, tvitbnnt in- piry to any Burson, or to the interests of the State. On a tormer occasion, in which a liberal provi sion bad been n►ide, the hearts ot,the House - and the Country bad been interested ; independently of all political feelings whatever. Sit: IV. GUISR was 'understood to object to any difference between the amount of the provisions. Lord CAsi-LEREAGH wished to correct a loose an'd general notion that' a large .reduction might take place in the Windsor Establishment. If the Committee had an opportunity of looking into it, they would find that it WdS cenducted oti the prin ciple of the strictest econoniy. The only branch in which some reduction might take place was that of the Officers of State of his Majesty, which amounted to 33,0001. i but even should the Groom rot the Stole and the Equerries be reduced, the saving would not - exceed 6,0001: a-year. Mr. TiniisrY should read the items of the AVindsor Establishment, that the . Flouse might judge whether sore reduction might not be made in it,. There was his :.Ilajesty'SlYrivy Purse, which amuunted to 60,0001. a year, out - of.which 18,0001, might be paid to the Physicians": 'The .Duchy. of Lancaster yielded 10,0001., and both these sums united - Made a fluid of 70,0001., which, with the - exception of the Physicians' pay, remained to ac cumulate for sonic •one,- Pis Majesty's Establish- went I.vis. 100,0001:3 . that of the Queen 58,0001., and with 10,0001. allowed, he knew not how; for travelling expences, 68,0001. To these•were to be added, 13.0001. for each, or 20,000 E fur the two*Princesses; making, -on-the whole, 20-1,0001. for the Establishment at Windsor. Yet could it be said, that the Queen and her two Daughters, and his Alajesty in• his present unfortu nate state, could not be maintained out of that fund, and some saving be effected ? Lord CASTLEREAGH contended that it AVP.3 not fair to include his Majesty's, privy purse within the Windior Establishment. He. also stated that her Alajesty was entitledio 100,0001.: a year as her jointure-, if deducted .from - the amount' of the . Hon. Gentleman's calculation, would leave an Establishment of only 164,0001., Mr. H. SUMNEti explained. r Mt. LAMBTON thought that he shonicl , ,be -want ing in . his duty to his constituents and his country, if. , he did not' support the reigning Family and the line of Succession to the Throne ; but in the present burthened state of the country, and when so many measures were required for the relief of the poor, he could not •consent to vote a single shilling. It was not sufficient to say that the wants - - proposed might be taken out of the Windsor Establishment, for if there was any excess iii that', Establishment let it be done away with - at once, instead of being applied to any puri.ose like the present. — rime quesiion !tether the House would not erthseot to 'vote, 6,9001. a year' to . enable his. Royal Highness ,the Doke of Clarence to marry - But had not that lloyal .Duke dissipated the 20,0001. which bad been already ;granted to hint And was the House to repair the conse quences of his misconduct ? This was not what 'lts constituents had a tight -to expect, and the (louse would not do its duty it it did iim-resist the proposition in-its very beginning. - • Mr. tVYNSP... -was understood to say that lie should vote in favOur of- the reduction of the grant of 6 4 401. for the Dukejof Clarence. if he should afterwards- -become heir apparent, the House might exercise its- judgment, and grant 'him a - further increase. lie contended that the case of the Duke of York was not one, in point: He ,also thought that the Windsor Establishment was a subject worthy the attention of Pkirliament, though the present moment was not proper for taking it into consideration.. • Here the Gallery was once more cleared, and the House divided on Mr. Hohne Stunners' amend ment, that time Grant be reduced front 10,0001. to 6,0001.- Ayes Nces 193 134 Majority agAinst Some conversation took place before strangers were again admitted, which ended in the Chair main teportitig progress, and asking leave to sit again. The. other Orders of the Day were then for warded ; and several accounts rehitive to the Batiks of England and Ireland were moved for and ordered.—Attjourned ;at Hall-past Eleven.' ENDOWED SCIIOOLS. FOIL THE SUN. MR. EDITOR,—The Public are indebted to you for your vigilance and attention to TUC BILL now before Parliament . to appoint Commissioners to inquire into -the ENDOWEO SCHOOLS of England and Wales. Since reading your obser rations of this evening, I have perused the Bill, and I cordially concur with your sentiments upon it. It has escaped your observation that the Bill will include ALL THE SCHOOLS which are under the immediate confront and superinteadance of the COLLEGES in Oxford and Cambridge, though, OH 'a hasty consideration of the Bill, it might appear‘otherwise.— I have endeavoured to trace the 'origin of this'measnre, and I think you are correct in your view of it. Everything proceed ing from THE PARTY . , which you have so truly characterised, mustbe received with suspicion and distrust. The friends of the Establishment must watch every measure of this nature, and guard with peculiar care all the avenues to it. It has been said, that a Bill of this -sort was passed to in quire into the Schools in Ireland; but there is no analogy— the generality of Schools in that country being maintained bit Parliament, whilst those in this Country baxe been founded by PRIV:VIC INDIVIDUALS. _ LUTHER. Richardson's Hotel, Wednesday Evening. SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. 'NEWMARKET CRAVEN MEETING, 1818. WEDNESDAY, APRIL 15. Sweepstakes of 200 gs each, h. ft. for the produce of mares co-; vered in 1814 ; colts, Bst. 71h. fillies, Bst:3lb. Ld Jersey's f: by Sooth Sayer, out of Web . • 1 Mr. Lake's c. by Seymour or Election, out of Lady of the Lake • Ld G. ('avendish's f. by Mi,ddletborpe, odt of a sister to WhAfelione One pd. ft.—Even betting on Mr. Lake's c. - Mr. Vartsittart's b. f. by Juniper, out, of ,Selima - , heat Mr. ThOrnhill's h. f. by Scud, out of Goosander, Bst. 51b. each. T.Y.C. 100 gs, h. ft.-5 to 4on Juniper f. Subscription Plate of 301. for two-yr'-iilds,.7st. three,.Bst. 71b. four, 9st. T.Y.C. Mr: Lake's b. c. by Seymour or Election, out of- Lady of the Lake, 2- yrs Sir C. Bunbury's hr. c. by Sorcerer, 2 yt Fifteen started--Two dr.—The Judge placed but two , High odds agat Mr. Lake's c. 'We received this tuornia , the Paris Paperi of Monday last. They are neatly des , itute of news. The 'following;` are the only articles worth ex- TO CORRESPONDENTS. ~~. TrtE Turfarroetical Epistle to the EDINDURRYI REVIEWERS as soon a, possible —Also, VERAX and other Favours, for • the delay of which we must refer to the Parliamentary ' Debates. THEATRICAL REGIST,IZR. Per Armed Last R'i Arbt. THrATRE DRURY-LINE.--The Rivals : Sir Anthony Absolute, Mr, Dowtoni Julia, Mrs. Davison. After which, The'Sleeping Draught. • THEATRE ROYAL, Coye:NT-GARDEV.—Fazio Giraldi Fazio, Mr. C. Kemple: Bianca, Miss O'Neill. After Which, '1 he Russian Festival. To which was added (3d time), Who's My Father ? A aalven—t Dul►lin, I Malta, 1 France. DUE--1 Waterford, I Guernsey and Jersey, I liatuburgh. PRICE OF STOCKS TDIS DAY AT TwELvE o'CLOCK. 3 per Cent. Red...... 47Si i.n4 3 per Cent. Cons 4 per Cents • • • • 9 7 1i1i 5 pvr Cent; Ann... 1 07i1# Bank Long . Ann. . 5241 HIGH NV PirER AT LoNIN Mornitig, 451 minutes after 11. India Bonds.-- .955. pgs. pr. Ex. Bills, 18s. Vls. pr. Ditto, lid. —183.935. pr. Cons. foe May 80 K IN BRIDGE TO•NIORROW. ' Evenii4, , , 13 minutes after 12. Ti IE SUN. 80LE51 Quis DICEMS FALSUM AUDEAT LONDON, THURSDAY, APRIL 16, ISIS. tract ing : " Pants, Aram 1 3 .—Yesterday-the Dote of Wellington had another conference with the Prussian Minister, the Duke de Richelieu, and the Baron Moonier. "The Prince Tablopowsky, sent to demand the body of General Kosciusko, arrived on the Mb ult. at Soleure, but the Executor of the General, M. Amieth, unexpectedly prn tested against the removal of the body to Poland, declaring upon oath that the deceased had desired to be interred with. simplicity, and that he believed the General 'had himself chosen the Helvetian soil for the interment of his remains.— It remains to be s e en what will be rhesultilOale deteuaina- tion." The general impression in the City, app - ears to be in favour of the new plan frr creating a 3 7 1 per Cent. Stock, as those who become holders of it will, there is no doubt, derive considerable ad vantages from its rise in price, compared with the terms on which they obtain it. A very corlsidera ble amount has, we believe, already been sub scribed into the New Stn.k. The subject of Debate in both Houses of Par liament„last night, is of great importance io two respects. First, in reference to THE SUCCESSION TO THE THRONE of these Realms, and next with. regard to the financial condition of the State. AS to the first we may say, in the language of a great 'political Writer, that ‘.‘ when Kings and Ministers are forgotten, when the force and direction of personal satire is, no longer' under . and when. measures are only felt in their remotest consequences," to which we may add when the wiles of Faction, shall, if possible, cease to disturb the operations of Government, still THE SUCCESSION TO THE THRONE of these Realms will be a•stihject of essential importance to the Empire, and as the Reign of the IlousE OF BRUNSWICK was . founded on the sound princirles of the Constitution, it will be of vital, interest to the Empire to have that [louse for ever entrusted with the support of that Constitution. rf o that House we are in debti'd for all the freedom which a people can en joy consistently with the due atithority of Govern ment, as well as for the preservation Vow. National Faith. On the other hand, tbecondition of the people should be deeply regart:td, and it should be considered whether • the burthens under which they have laboured, and still bear, with laudable and exemplary fortitude, should be 'augmented to provide against possible contingencies. 'fits SUN has acquired a reputation for a im partiality, and it shall, not- shrink from the discussion of either of these - must important questions, ‘ when we have heard•all that Ministers are disposed to,propose'and to maintain, and tin' the other; - what ,the hereditary Council, al:d thel RepresentatiVe Body of the Nation, shall appeat inclined to concede. Nor shall we fail to observe, and to reflect; on the judgment of the People et large, and the real'voice of - the Public, unmixed With tile clamours of Party, cr s?ft cited by the "fluttering unction" of 'ix slavish devotion to Mi. nistc rs. For the present we shall drop the sub ject, and refer our Readers to a copious account of the Debate hi other Columns of our Paper. • CANNING..---There is now no difference of opinion on the subject of the infamous Letter to Mr. CANNING. It rnmt be npire•rsally admitted, that it came from " a Liar, a' Slanderer, and one who only wants courage to beComean Assassin." We have, from the first, thonght that it proceeded from so►ue Correspondent of The Morning Chro nicle, and the contents of that Paper this day confirtyr'our - conviction. ,Though the subject of . discussion in bolt Hoitses of parliament last night . was of the highest interest to the Country and to Posterity, not one word on that important subject oppears in The Chroni cle of this' d.ty, but " 'the creature's at his - again," in abuse Orf CAN 9 “ 4. This is a strong presumptive proof uhat the libeh lOns Assassin is, in some respect or otlier, CO C‘l with that Paper. Its reasoning is as shall ° as its abuse, is contemptible. Because Mr• " 4 ' NING is a Minister he is, supposed, by The " 71' . nicle, to be destitute of the feelings of-a ozan, " I " der the most rancorous provocation. Mr. CdO'' NING, flow the impulse of a natural spirit of in' dignation, gave way, at once, to feelings that ( honour to his character, and forgot,that his infa 4 mous Assailant acted in such a manner a s to she t4 that l i e was utterly destitute. of honotir.--: Instead of ansvirering Mr. CANNING like a gen tle ' man, either openly or prixately, he sends M .r. CANNING'S letter to a Public Journal, witb an' other letter from himself, in which he threater's new abuse, -and concludes wit h a menace of Or der ! ! ! Yet The Chronicle applauds the antioln l-u Ruffian, and abuses Mr. CANNING for fecliog lik es 111811.-IVe retain our opinion that such a Itliser e ' 4 should only b e d ea lt w i t h accordi ng to Law , sn. we again recommend the offer of a reward lor t he discovery of the " Liar, the Slanderer, and tbc ineuaciug Assassin." The Times, 'which seems to emulate , Chronicle in rancour against Mr. CANNING, to the subject of the Letter this Oay, and,io to THE Surf, justifies the anonymous Det" ll ' er it 'attack on that 6e 4 ntlentam, - by alledgiog tlf the threat of murde r w a s not di rec t btlt ditipnal. We shall not a n s wer s uch d e ' P' : cable sophistry. The • Ti m e s w i s h es :10E s '3 ,l ' 0 01! would " study L,> ,ti. We wish :that it " _assume a vittue if , it have it .riot,", 11 7 11‘ , wear some semblance honour, candour: 114 5 , 3 and common sense, and Hat, W fie 1 /3 ic over the " very sanguine itml att' 0 upon Nr. C:ANNING, apply tho s e ep i t f i c,s t° Letter of that. Gentleman, in answer to the 0 ° rnymous miscreant who assailed him. • A Report has been at tinily spread in some P °l' o ".. Ccal circles, stating that a di s ti n tr,iished Po"). intended 'to apply to Padiainent for t he P 3 ' ment of his debts, amounting to not less ti' : el l 1 • 200,000/. !!' We consider this report as f oo " " l mert:?y in party : inatevolence, and as too ?)' , i' stilt! for notice ? except as it skews to what tent,ir the enemies T of Government will proceed in til t ' attempts to shake the confidenecof the POP``'‘ I 0 The following is the only - articie• of an y portanee in our Port Letters of this slay :---- ST. JoHN'S,NIZWroUNDLAND:NrAP.CII 6.—The ff e the weather has been very great since the 19th of We have only had a few hours thaw, and in the mJrni''"'ti, intervals, the thermometer has been 2.1::r degrees bel °W ie cypher of Farenheit's scale. Many attempts have been to cot the vessels out without suecess,bnt there now apP a prospect of their getting away in a couple of days' is " ar ° EAST INDIA SHIPPING.—The A h ierican ship rived. at Cowes front Canton, which piece she left a-":, wio" end of November.—The Corn pany's.ships ,Waterloo chelsea were dispatched from Canton the 260 So'noc., The Company's Atlas a rr;ved at Canton the 17th . , . COURT OF KING'S BENCH. ' t toll' A - PPEAL OF MURDER.—This morning, °,4,, r 4L: past 10 o'clock, the case respecting the 1 " - 'icA ea of MARY /?isIiFORD, of - which her brother ari ni r , e ABRAFIgNi THORNtOI4, * Came 01l forforthcr ` ) ,1,01 titnt., i\lr. CKIPTY CoUtilitied Spe3h :l 4 " our Parer went to press. g. SUN-OFTICE, Two s f Nire,stop the Press to st a te, that the ilu l g e .riti the King's Bench gave judgment in AstrO gy TtyIINTON, that the presornption of guilt `",si() 051 tliiciently st rong t o come w i t hin the excel and that as the Law now stan,ls, the entitled to his Pia!' -by li•ttile. The l'l''' e / p9 l) (raving, in his replication, p tave d ..it'ultj.'" c : )( , 1 14 eat made sine (lie,- time aliqsi•ed Mo 9 " ):" to the. Coonsel .for' tie Apptilant pnfq t'j Court, it they think I ' • r )into -n n,,for toci point. ~1 0 4 Yesterday her MAJEs•ry and Princess At 6 ,;,r, c arrived at the Q teen's PdlAe Iron Ii1"1":e50 \viere they were soon after visited 1:v the P : c luc K ot,GLotsc.;EsTER. At a (ratter befor,; fo'" ( 1 ) 1 c ,,s0 1 , the PIII)CCSS EL(ZABET:I• and Prince ( - 4 1 " H . _ omBERG arrived also from W ; it.dsor V r and his Serene Highness are to occup y A I CO snit of rooms on the tight side of the / ° hei r during their stay in London. Soon lift e f,,, t e t o arrival - ,the Prince went in a Royal , eor r '''' l oth Carlton-house, and had a low* in'ervievt r PRINCE REGENT. ' v er . QUEIiN'S-SQUAEL—Lientenaht DAMScr'lsL'oril terday brought. up attain to this OffiCe, a" - PALMERSTON attended. Ills Loi.dship gave 8 7 ( i‘ . 11 . . w deuce similar to what e before slated,a w ' AST LEY 'COOPER describt tithe e ff ect of the.vc°tlvil,ei The pris.ouer was fully committed, and CO uvceolo, to Ncwgate. The property found on bir o, sisting of eleven 1/. 'Bank notes, and Ot her tides, were returned to hint. ------- - - ---:-.- . -_- _ ___-- - BIRTHS. . , s , Ba fli On Tuesday, the 14th inst., at Sir William ClaY fnn , in Glonceter-phice, the Lads• of :11; 3 1 0 , cl a ytoo. c . , fa "' lt o' On the 9th instant, at Paris, Lady' George Jill"' .." sell, of a . daughter. . ----------- .f • 1 46). Sunday last, suddenly, at his - house, Wight, John Oeliarno, Esq. Mayor the norougk ° f f 1":1 (1 , port, Magistrate for the Couil•R of (Haits, Calttaill lld oil( niouth eastlt', Captain of the if Wight , d yeA of 'the- Lady of Sir T Ilr / - 1 . - Newport, 15sleess'v' LONDON: Printe - J byd. B. cAttsTAnts, of NU. 49, w, Ormond-street, ,Qu et ; t c.squ a re ; A n d published lit" 5 SCRIPPS, of No. 7, _South 2‘.lolton-street, Ti 4,0,199 Office, No. 112, Strand ; Where Adveltisenients, u Letters, &c. • (pt st.:vticl) must be addressed.- ~~ ,/ // I ~j