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nisu - nd r ietetood. As the cburse of Pailiatneritary usage was hoWever different, he did not feel dis posed-to resirit this practice. If the 'present motion were to, be considered by the House, as one of cri mination, he would meet it by a denial of the state.- mem, and by nsserting that its grounds were un footeled and incorred, consequently such as would iudnce the House to came eo an opinion upon its ferllity. 'From the history and course of the pro ceeding itself, 'he' would presume this opinion. In feet the lion. Gentleman had distindly said this; was only to be considered as one pf metry accuser time wrhich were still behind. He bad almost as dis , e tintily said. that he brought them forward, not so' lunch 'to vindicate the injured honour of Pattie. ment, as he did 'in pursuit of that line and object for which be thought proper to single out the Noble Lord and himself (Mr. Perceval), namely, tO shew the people the necessity of reform. It was for that purpose that he withdrew the notice which he bad oil is fortner evening given Ort that subject, and sub stituted the present motion in its' room, es more likely to effectuate his (shied. If thee House pere. mined such a proceeding, it would Serve others as a dangerous precedent, and they should take tate throngh what' confidence and what means an indi-; ~actual should be called upon to explain, or by his . silence be supposed to admit those fads with which he stood charged. It weekd be the establishment of an inquisitorial power more dangerous to the Me:reser of private and social lite than the House was eerhaes aware trf. There were various ways of obtaining unlimited information in this manner' . against public men; it may be done by a seizure of their letters. Under all the bircumitances the House and the Public would only'ael with 'consistency in not' noticing such charges. He' should strongly pro test against any inference being made from his silence on the pine; of accusation. So far es de nial of them went, it would be equal to the plea of not guilty.. He should . abstain from entering any turtherehan that denial; , tilt be should know Nv,he ther the Hoese entertained thecharges against hies or not When the House should have (settle to decision on that point, he should be ptepared to, Offer what would be both eatisfaetory to them and lilt own honour. In what lie had thus Stated, he did not mean to behave vk disrepe&t to the I louse; he felt himself called ' upon for sonic explanation ; be should now, having made his bow`, leave 'the Douse to its own sense, ott the sohjed,Meenherrass.: his preSence. - The Right Hen. Geetletean 'hereupon withdrew. Lord CASTLEttEAGU said, he felt it impossible to proceed iu any other manner than the course of statement followed by his Right Hon. Friend. What ever may be said on the subjea, in this stage of 'it, he was not enabled to otter any thing in answer to the charges." lie should, •theretOre, leave them as they stood, n trusting that from 'his chnduat in ail ing so, no improper inference would be drawn. At n proper~ peribd of the itesestigethen, be would reel it, perhaps, necessary to come to a full explanation. (The Noble ,Lord thee retired.) o se, The Monier' belies called iOr by the House lees, lee e eeee l ss said," that he should move for a Committee oo illouday, of the whole House,' to ine quire into the interference of Lord Viscount Castle reagh, and the Atight Honourable Spencer Perceval, in. the return QsiotiteDick, Esq. for the beruegh of Cashel. • Mte - Wneeenteen . seconded the 'melee. Mr. Tterteeet owned he did not feel the charges which were brought forward to be satisfadory. lion. Members had presumed they Were in 'posses e !don of the charge .wit ham possessing thesubstraturn neeettaary taleund it on. would be unreasonable to piceeed without a basis, and particularly on e tese"stbich 'many Memberss bad heard nothing of, being absent during the statement of the Hon. Gen tleman, Elite Clerk was here ordered to read the prece , dent of Mr, Shepherd's c 'as quoted by the Hun. Gentleman (Mr. Meeldocks) on a former , The SPEAKER wished to kite w whether it was the pleasure of the Rollie to adopt this precedent on all its points, It was not the predict:., he observed, to name the pariiculer day. • Mr. Wstereeteso said, the precedent. alluded to was merely a proceeding upon oral information, as it would be inconsisteet with the terms to lay written charges on the table of the House. 'He Was sure hls "Hon. Friend would have 'no objection to n omlethe rik•AitiOn Of the specific;day, and,it would then tally, with, the ,precedent of Shepherd's. The case of the leuke rsl York was one .Where the charges had been orally Made, and yet the Heuse thought proper to appoint a Committee to investigate them. He pre sinnled, that though, all the Members May not be present, it would be sufficient if there were so many as coeitituted a House according to form. The case would be ditlerent indeed, if the persons implicAted 'in the teettaaCtion were nut present. Mr. Secretary CAWNUro said, that the question was a double nfte ; that the hitter part preeumed that the Reuse had agreed to the former part. The first part was; whether the'cleirge sheuld be entertained ; the laster, whether it should be heard on a pertieelardey. If the Hon, Gentleman altered his , mtitioo, so as to put the question on the first part, leaving out 'the particill;ff ‘l,ly he :could five 'no ohe jeteion to its being put ire thet form ; or the sense of the 'House may be takru, *hether the charge should be etttertahred at all. Lord FOLK 70.N1L hoped the , Heuse would strialy adhere ter the precedent betbre it in every particular. M me neuees moved then that the Charges shoutd be heard at the liar of the House, before a Cemmittee thereof. • '' Mr. cA4T*III . OIrT Htn th4t .the ouoable Gentlernarr" had Secondod, out. of the HOWL:, OW sameifilogesf resoltitierie which he now proposed in it. He teemed that he *es as much attached to the Constitutioq, acid 'sensible of us blessings as .any other man, arid would go as far to correct abuses. 'Those whose object was reform, ,would • begin :by . pulling'dowe, without knowing *here to end. did not meets, to attribute; to any Hon. GeetleMao improper 'Motives. They ahetild, hewever s take eere n how they reburied their fame on reefer, and not reforen on their faMe. It :had been said, the desir'o of it was generelly felt, this he wouLl ,ebsee heels. deny. , mi:ae indeed apparent that the Duke ioveStigetion, and itSrestift, were received with ee extraordinary degree esf triumph. tete ef the reeoleeions proposed at a priblie eneedoe; on the aubjeet wf refortn, went to charge iwite the tuontent when the _enemy of Europe was making every effort towards his monstrous ag grandisement, was surely no proper season (or sow ing division in the country. He, for one, could not . allow the necessity of reform' in the representation. We ha. as much real liberty, and equal administra tion of justice at present in this country as at any former period. Thesenseof the conntrylid nag() With this clamour for reform. He knew of a,requisi iion which had been made for a meeting'on this stib jed, signed by 72 persons against, and 1.7 only for the meeting. Yet the 17 met, and voted their reso lutions accordingly.- This was, perhaps, an instance of. the sense of the country.. , Lord MILTON said, whether the charge against the Right Hon:Gentleman and the Noble Lord were true or false, it Would 'not alter his opinion of,Mi ,nisters. What Lad been done by all Governments, , could not be considered as criminal'in any tWo'ilidt. viduals. But feeling as 'he did that Such practices , should be put a stop T to, he shoold Move as an ;amendment, for retertina the charges to.a . Coin untie° above stairs. • The SPEAKER said, the Noble Lord would exe cute this intention as well by leaving out the wools, that the charges he•heard;"' and substituting'the wordS, " that 'the tilatter of die charges bereferred to a Sele6t Committee." - The amendment thee—altered 'was put' by' - the Speaker. : • • Sir C. MottOAN liniented that the time of the, House was ovenpied by such diseusiiiinS, instead of by attending to the business of the country. lle was as much disposed' as any man'' to Mien to the voice of. the people ; but he conceived, that on the' ,present occasion he should ilegleat his duty, if lie did -not give the.motion his deeided negative. Sir J. HtouuTHgit opposed the mothin.' It was a proceeding which might be.instituted against any execqtive Government, goOd or bad. The lion. Mover professed to hello patty man. It he meant that he did not kelengAoJhe party. who iitially. -acted together on that sideof the klousei 'or to the. parti , who usually a6ted ,together ox the other aide of the Hauge, he said 'true') but ,t here might,be , a party oti . anotlier desexiption iu the lioute (whether' the lioriourabls Gentleman belonged to it ornot,,hti kuew not) who meant .weil .to neitherside• of the liooe, nor to . .Any set 01,5nra above themselves. 4onouralk dkieinber had stated,. that he wm4d begin with Cashel, but that ilia inquiry. wyuld,,n9t step , therei on ~the edatrary, that .he wowed go through a whole seek ei of cases to show the wiluence of :Ministers, and otheriudividuils. I,llu point .of justice armed .Candour_the, kion...Meinber. ought tp . ..oaVe stated tlif3 .precise extentnOf fact i,4okrwiie ijoase might gu into' endlehs t'omuip oowhative anise to callinformation. By' lay;ng intOrniation on the table aglinst gni:thing on one clay, against' another thing on' another day, and against, a third - thing on , a ,thini day,,t :Lion., Gun. tlernan tuight gra tity tho public aste,for slander, and create a'clarbour whie'll might afterwards,be turned, arit seerriqd,to,hirn 1141 y tc, be turned, to Palliamen tary .destruetion, and not to Ilarliamemary itefOrtn, —The Noble Lord bell < ittd ,h4d stated that ,some, thing ought to be done prosPectively to preveot the influence of the Crown from being carried to such an extent in,the return of Members of Parlirnent. But how did the Noble Lord lgllow up this statement ? By propOsing to carry a criminal 'matter before a Committee of The House. fur one, deprecated this minglingo rcttrusNektive 'with prospeNive mea sures. The 11(M). Gentleniam in whom this 'diieus sion originated and himself, differed very 'noel) about the meaning of the 'word inform." The Hon' o'otlema ll had certainly used the word ".inforiri,'• but what information lie. had conveyed to t heHouse, it was not easy, to discover. Nut being a native at this part of the island, he (SirJ. Anstruther);:might perhaps be mi,stalten, , thaL he always u n d erstoo d that to inform, meant tocouVeyinformation. But .What information had the Hon. Gentleman con veyed to the'House ? If he had mil:eyed such loose and general information to'any . Justice of th e P eace , in any part of tire kingdorn,•,tvinst any individual whatever, that individual would not have been called upon to answer to the, charge. The little knbw ledge on the subject that the Hog. Ge n tleman did possess, could only have , been obtained by audit a honour as, if the Witness breach of confidence: and came to the Bar, must impeach his credibility. He trusted that all the ties of. confidence and private honour would not be allowed to be broken by the . rascality of Some indilitials, and by the. surinitw., of others, merely to gratify the public app f iik e , f ur slander. 'Where was a great,daerenee between the inforination in the case of Shepherd, and the sur mises in the present instance, The charge bad nit been reduced even to writing; conunon Justicede- Manded that the individuals accused should. have had this Means afforded them, of, canvassing : and, examining the accusation against them, before they were called upon to answer it.. The Hon, Gentle ,man had talked of the 'state of the public tined. Let the Housecousider by what, alas it hadbeen ex cited, Let.the House. alw4ya. ' keep in mind the candid confession made by his Hop. Friend near him, on a recent event, who stated, that on the question of Parliamentary lteforeri, he had been misled with regard to theptiblic voice, and that he found that it had been eli.eited by other cailses. He was convinced that on a fair investigation. it would . be discovered, that a groat sieal of what was called . the public voice woC.p4blio,clamour; excited by a few interested indiAlidals for the basest purposes. He trusted that the House of COOMBS, although they 'would sot resist tho fair legitimate voice of the people, would not listen to the. noise of fools-.-that they would give way neither to the influence of Ahe Crown on the , cvlie hand,. nor to the turhulence of a mob on the .other; but that by thus keeping the vessel of the state upright, they would retain the favour and love at a grateful and • atleaionate people, Lord Mtvrobi explained. I‘ll' .. euttwgti.could-littve wished that the motion had not beeit made; : but as it had been. made, he did pot see the poSsibiiity.of.rejeaing it. It the Hurt, Gentleman, lisd, made his charge, en light grounds, and could not sanitantiate lie had done a very serious injury to ,she country ; -h:it' he could not coneeive passible that any Hon. Gentleman would sb gros,iy commit himself. He who atq c d for the con option of the Coustfttifion, was no foetid tf , co6oo th,3 suite time fine .1:1ot outer this Lie lit tipt,;r uwde to reform the sewers over the Hon. Gentleman, he would have advised him to wait until saw whether the House would not do that which would put a stop to Such proceed logs for the futUre. a veil be cast over the past, and let the country look to the period which is to come. But as the motion had been brought; for.; ward, he felt himself compelled to support the in quiry,. and vote tot• the proposition of the Noble,Lord behind contended, that whether the. ac-.! kcusation was true or talse, the only manly and sails-. ladory way of meeting it, Would be by entering in- I to att examination of the whole transaction. Sir FItANCLS BUttn . RTT . declared, that on an in quiry. so nearly conecrning•the honour of the House of Commons, he was auxious to hear the opinion obothers before he offered inS own. A subjeb more important or mi,re nearly coneeintog the nearest and dearest interests of the House, 'he was at' a loss' o:Y imagine. The charge was so Weighty that he had hopedthat it would hate tiOn met' with .something. mole - or,Conilitiltif3ll . 4 Nasoaing, 'and, W;tili softie thing t o re of Constitutional precedent. .In every point of view he undertook to m,tinittht that the eon-: duct of his` Hon:Friend had ;been entirely gons4feit a;iththe Unitortn.tcnorof Parliamentary proceedings: lii the bettertinies ofour forefathers, a Metilber of the Hon'se of - Con - Impg was never elaeed in th e si teatio„if',of one who in the present dartrooght feu ,ward a charge of corruption. He wat'nerer actitted 'of indirect or repi•ebekisible notivesi. It had beep, dedided`hy ,a re s olution of the House; 'that eciaMon' fame was enough on which th ground an inquiry of .the presentsetiture. Ho did' net mean the common' fame of , the streets, but that which was known by , most and believed by all. He dared any one to get' 'up and,say, upon his honour, that he did not believe ! the matter . ~noder consideration.. If this .was the :ease, and it Ilia se inrolds 'on the Constitution wete considered more valuable than the Constution Men he wotild d,.clare Witt Buonaparte had a better ally Within those walls than •aty where else. He defied those who had cht4redisnlondly to show thitt Datictlt§oli4;tirOpe which had !fallen from their 'itidependeriter - bad done so ;from the diiatrettion of their om(nAiANWas, or from the introduction of French. Ictiendsof Reform in this country wished fotficeinnovation: They wished for nothing but the restoration of the Constitution as it existed in the best times of our history 'A. Noble Lord be• hind him, of whcksp r booonr4e44ro6ter it Wag jai ' PsSiOr 4 f4 4ioU6r - Ohad stotedrt:Ao be his belief - that • a.uniformestabliShed kind of tradiiVa6 carried on in the, prattices, denounced by his Hon. Friend, Bed had declared ihat he should nut think Worse of the two igclieidtial3ue,:used, if they %we, conviaed of the . charge.bronght against them. He was` anxious that one,of tWo courses 'should be pursued. Either that Corroptibn should be disproved, .or that the friends of corruption . should avow its existence ; .and its enernieiwiilildthen know bow tit meet theta. As to the Bill introdueed by the Honourable 'Gentleman who had Spoken la qt but one, Such measures could have no red effea, and might probably be . icsitarious. Every report ()revery Coturnittee shewed the existence of the !Oiliest corruption ; and should these - who Wished to probe the sore Co the bottom be told that theinen who wanted to film it over were the true friends to their country ? Where the source, is impure, such would be the stream, It was from the House of Commoos that the pe,qpiee*pt*.t.4l re dress';, but %VIM) they saw that tat individual who broil , ' lit 'forward sod) charges as 'the present met with any thing e x cept an answer, the character of the Howie would not be elevated in their OpiniOn. He could not see.the possibility of the' House re jecting'llre-inotion'or his Hoti:Vriend, which was a complete Parliamentary mods of proceeding. D: G,nv y contended, that no' 'Government coold'exist unless *property and power were united. When the Executive ,and Legislative Authorities op- Posed each other, 'the, result,must, be their mutual destruttion. It wasthe,great merit of the Constitu tion Of that Homo, that all interests . were repre sented in it. The Country.,s as never in a morec a fi lw Nourishing 1 , l nggcondition than Bribe present moment ; he, would nut say, that the Constitution bad arrived at the maximum of.perfection,ite would maintain that it was by no Means worth while to risk the manifold blessings .Which we enjoy, for the purpose of endeavouring to obtain some fanciful ob ject, which, - when °opined; would probably be tetrad little . Mr. t; itta: Y 'observed, that the Journals of the House would make a most extradrdinary appearance unless the Hon. ,Gentlentan would' lay do the table at written docuthent for the purpose .of having it put into, the bOoks. The Ci4Se of Shepherd' was, so re duced to'wliting when the informatten was, given. Unless - this was'done, he really'drd not know,,dis tinetly on what gi Ound he should be called upon to vote.—With respect to theeharge against the Chan eviler of the Exchequer, and Mr. Wellesley, it was of so vague a nature, that he should be ashamed of entertaining it . a moment ; but the accusation against . Lordcastleteagh, .that on a question of the Inust in teresting and important nature, he had prevented' a Member of that House 'from giving his vale atent-d -. Mg. to his conscience, was . most - Se:100S and he wished, that by s oma atheodateot, that part (if t tics Honouraide,Gentleman's charges could be separated -from the rest. lie did not • know any thing of the hilts. They might, or they might not be as tepre stinted ; but he should not considerhiniself as bound in duty to support an inquiry into them: As a great deal had been . 45341 about Parlianientvy Retertn, bts wished to add a few words on Thu subet.t. Allot a . whole life spent in supporting the expediency of Pdr iiameptary Reform, it ciattld not be sopposel that he should turn short round agaitist it. As thetv grew Older they might' certainly grow more. temperate in their opinions; but the principle, that time made 'things ,worse, and that which 'was made wnrseunght . to bU repaired, was ooe which de k ibett , :on tenotid only more firmly to establish:. Unt,totibitidly, it it depended upon !Mi n i to say whether or 1101 the tin e 6, tkiti 01 Parliamentary Reform should, be . rtglixed . at present,. he. should:allow that 1n thought thiS au , Mconiettient period ; but there was a, great ditiereoca between that adintssiou acid • the Mena; 1110 Se who sawt u,, but t • 1 agintion of it all, Lie ,woold noi because the' - ' sense of the conutry was not at, Pres!• 2o i for a. Parliatneuntry M aa t kid toi,k.th e: opptiacip t o, of ti Ot .rief . titXit up waS taLf. Icithent oe - aslollrd by the inquiry tow- the Doke of Yak's conduct, at the bottom of which . , thin under which the public laboured. It was true -; that in some reSpi.ltis the country was in a floriiishiag' state ; but he had mixed little; with general society who had not heard deep complaints of the weight of - taxation ; complaints aggravated by. - the mode of that taxation, when,it was considered 'that after - paying the rest of their taxes a duly of ten_or cent. - was-Unposed tilion - Weindiisfaus sOF the country, it was not surprising thlt they should, be ,di pored to listen.. to those by whom they were told thin it Parliament were more honest, their burdens would be less 'severe. It Was - nevertheless the foulest deCeption that could be Traaised' . on the people, to eudeavotir to , make them belieVe that fly ,any thingTailiament could do, anymaterial alleviation of their burdens could be effeCted. Ditheringfrom - the Honourable Gentlemen with. respect to the ex- . pediency of , bringing forward the question of Par 7 liatuentary-* . Reform .at the present moment,' be also differed Irom h him in the manner in which e thought s.l it ought to be brought forward. It was not necessary I in order to 4i in forward the sullied. of yorlianieet ary RetZtan to 'vilify and degrade every public'rnan in the country, and to irritate and inearne the na tion against i all patties 'and all Sides . iti thet House. in all tornier .etempts at Parliamentary' Reform he had never witiaesed any thing like that which be' ' had beheld i hitt the last few months. Every individuel.whu aimed at poeularitynow cried oot, " I am no party man-!" Tor himself, he had been lon conversant with public life, and he was silttA -6.e.d. that he could do Do good unless he was a pariY. man. He trosted that ne party feeling would ever lead him to do any thing which would bet disr#o o . : t" f"uhto the Crown, Pr dangerous to the Consittlin" i:eit he must maintain, that the country derived eon . siderahle adVaritaiie‘frem the good old lefOtii-l' ale warfare of ;pastievin.,Parliameot.• Lint . .sathatewer e the Hon. Gentleman and , his 'friends 'khey entered that . House, and they quitteit-it'as party. L'he discussion of some questions which ap peared to them of inipertanee, therattooded .es party. ,On the disenssloil of Others—such,;(or 10- stance, as the less of a British` army, they absented themselves as 4 party.. They came in and they went eut as a party. Who their leader was he did out know ; but they might: take: his word for that they twasehave a leader soon. : lie hoped they would settle this point speedily, in order that there might he some tostenAlble Person to whOrnipiestions might. lie addressed with respect to the intention* or the I tN : o rt s y eo . nG - ee i cnt t ,it.el p inl y , i no en r , I T,: : i. l tp l hae w b a rnt : ct, s s. 7r ( e it c s y ta t i t i t r icl g g s ge at et % / v t T giqui mystery, TheY Contented themselves easionalty-givirtg.notine that on such a day one of the party of the novrty men would brieg torward such e. or such 3 ntOtrOo a l37oltO7 n na,,e of that menen set conjecture at defiance.' The present was 4 1 ) , iNt illic(7 Of this sea of &untie& He 'confessed that h e re attlqi , d ripthrodi : vc ceNettaltis party with jealousy, for he was eltviqs. reatous of that 'which he did not .comprehend, eally the objeCts 'of these Gentlemen were by Jilin in comprehensible. It seemed wry extraordinary; Oat • hey,shotild say to Min isters," We have n'o otijqtioo • you; we by 'no means wish to turn you oat •t i D a tl t • are as good Ministers jas any others ;" cl . r at the very moment when they had in th e ir pockets chargei corruption seine made two ot the principal Nielobois csf Administration *talk Out uc ihe House. Ile did not.auk these Gm ntlemeyi to support the side of the I fon se with which lie nsdally acted ; but he should like to ho ow why they .were "so much in love with the Gentlemen opposite. At present he .had.not the most remote idea, although he was aware that it might be insi hunted .by illiberal people that a 'weak 'Administra lion.must be preferred by individuals wile had the views sometimes ascribed to the Gentlemen to Whornhe alluded. He 'supposed that he shut ll 4 now . hear the old cry that when a charge of , OP' minion was made, both sides Of the FlOase lesced to resist it. tle himself sto,od accused of corruption, for he could not deny that be had hee 3 in office, auchthese Gentlemen had broadly decl tred , that all men who had been in dike were" corrupt; and that they shared. among them the produce 0 . 1 the labour of the people. Was it possible that they could. seriously . believe. th is aisertion ? Or 0 6 ,0' other hand was it possible they'couid believe that in .the expenditure of seventy' or eighty Millions in the year it was practicnble with' the uituost vigilance uo the pith of Government to prevent occasional an d minor petulation? 'What would theSe Geritleintn do if they were i ja,s gi cg ) ,re . course to measures of vigilance. And did not the :n:renorts on the table :show the variety of efforts 0 1 ' 1 ! had b t al he adet guilty"o discover individi f l r a a i u s n and m c a o n r y ruption !,;curd not beets severely puniihed ?. It was impossible Un ti l any Government, howeVer pure or -disinteteste t but that improper prat to a certain extent ( " 11 , ' 4 l prevail, and all thaecould be done'weis that whit was done, namely, to use every eilbst . to reel them. - With respeCt to a Bill (Mr. Curwen's) which an Hon. Baronetl(Sir Fraecis Burdett) t.P 4l ' su.slightingly, he could only say, it had his most . o,„ r : approbation.' From Whit had fidhzo from 1 0 ; 'lion. baronet, it appeared to him, that there +v to some concealed causes which created that t „. it which he avowed. Parliament recegnise.l.the Po' I ciple upon. which it was founded, and their enattullo 'instance; would prevent a 'repetition *f •the practices it , thought proper to put an enct,to- It was, thereito:i Itoo bad to turn - short :upon two Hon. Members, make them the via ims ofa yae ice,ot which the In . ( Bart. himself athrmed.there were many exampleSeit, this were so, why stop with them, why not go I l i e titer there was not to be an amnesty on I l it occasion, passed out of doors it did indeed seem ,to sorne - Reform was necersieiiy gradual 1 31)1._ ICIIIPCr` o f Reform, to preclude these attacks on the jit'P r ', e whin was to take place ? Froin C , :tnrtloni. He agreed with what fell front 13° ,", seota' kiT. , • Gid d y) with rtspett to toe repre lion of the landed and money interest, Powe r , tto wealth uould ever - insure influence, hot it °ugh . the be' so guarded agitinst that it sheuld he out 91 Power mOoey inTort:hale SOf in that li+~ilitr They ought ti, proceed with - caution, it to gentesl voice was expeeset, he eenstci.-ed 4,3a be their duty to attend to it. The general 1f3ift.,`",,,, time not Ow mbich was excited by thotie,wlin, rr heiguage of Mr. rierke,'exposeil7slie shaiee , i , u,t ,„ F t o e of the Coustit , Wit be • pi:010 50 :- (} ?,`" lre et arionig the popular feeling agaiost G051,,'„, As far as the second part of euestioo cot"-,