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' .ing oh the Cr'inmanderin Chief, on any even ing about t j,, pc• loci' being ordered to g t j cut for change 0f ... a bank note by 'the'Dhke of York 1--A: I ;cio not.' , • . Q. Does .he recollea any other' servant being +vent, Scc.--:A. I recoiled the hooSekeeper, Mrs. Taylor, coniitig down with a bill one morning, and giving it to Lodowit.k, who went out and got it Clanged,' and returned the - money to the 1 ouse 7 keeper. .9.. Repeated.—A. No. Q. Does be - know the amount of the note given Ickl.odowiek bY,lhe hotiieke.p.,l I—A. Nu, I-do not. Q. Dia he hot - the housekeeper give the order ? --A. Yes. Q. Does he rem:Let the Words'of the order?— A. No, she gave him the note to cet change. Q. is he positive that the note was not given at night and the change btott,;ht back in the morning A. I atu Posittse-1 heard the order given to go and get chatle. (By Mr. BRAND). Was the Duke of York in the Juitift at the tittle the note was sent out 1.--,A.Yes he Was up stairs. Q. What time of the day was it ?---A. Near eight o'clt.ck in the morning., Q. Was the Duk, of' York up at that time I—A. lan) not certain.Q. • (Mr. J. GRAHAM). How long did witness live in Glo,cester-place ?—A. Eighteen months. Q. \ 4 v h e s to come there with the Duke 01 York. I—A. None but:Luomvick—ne‘er 83W ony other f-, 4 n e to tile. house. Q. Was this tile only note. he ever recolleas Lu &wick ,:being sent to The only one. Q. Did the Duke of York to Wtymouth at ,the same time M:s. Clarke went to Wurthnig ? A. The Duke.went tam about one o'clock in the ntortwig Mrs. Clarke :wow five. Mr. WARDLE- MAY Sidled, that he would go into, the case of Cot. French's Levy, and would call. Capt. Huxley Sanden its his first witness. 3' lb ~d i 'i CAPT. SANI)E'N'S EXAMINATION. Q. What interest had . the witness in Colonel French's levy ?—A. I wit's concerned With' hint in the lee y. • Q. In what say, and to what extent ?—A. The letter of service %vas gii , en to us both. To Colonel Rrnch anti Captain .Sat tden. • Q. Dues he know Mrs. Clarke ?—A. I do. Q. Did l,e or Colonel French apFly ti) .& r tirr her infloonc&, lit ordet'that they' Might GaVe the iesy We were told, in the first instance, that it was a person or great influence with a leading person in the 'kingdom. We did not know at'the moment it was Mrs. Clarke. U. What passed before they discovered the persOn alluded to was Mts. Clarke ?—A. They did not know it was Mts. Clarke, till after they had obtained the letter Of service Q. Who., gave witness The 'information that took him to Mrs. Clarke ?—A. Mr. Cot:1(.1)11e, my atior yey, 110 bold urn iethere was anything at the War- Office or the Duke of York's Office, which I was solicitous about, he wind reeolumend me to a per son who would be of service to me . Q. OW he 'recommend him to. Mrs. Clarke ?- 7 A. , To her age t, Who ?-4. A music-master of the,name of Corti. Q. Through the means of Mr. Corti, had be an intervkw with Mrs. Clarke ?—A, 140;11 know. Q. flan lie ever an interview with iNirs. Clar . Ee ? —A. Yes; a tong thine' Ann-. Q. Flow long k month or' Mo. 0,. What pa.ed bet'A'een Witness and Mrs. Clarke .on that interview ?--4. Nothing, the busine'ss was all settled belbre that. Q. For what purpote then had .he the interview ? --A. Mrs. Clarke Oished to see me. Q.: - What passed on that occasion ?--A. Co;onel Relich asked we t0 . .,'g0 with bun fo the agent ; I did not know .wh,,ilwr.inale. or terntik. On my ii-rivat at GlcnCester-place, to my .surprise I found it to be a female. . • Q. Rid Colonel "French seed "Mrs. Clarke before ? A.saiLedly. Q. ELLA he seen her before the letter of service was granted?---A, I believe not, Q. What Passed on this occasion I can't re colleet. Q. What was the substance of tile conversation . ? --A. A mere inttoduction—this is Captain Sandell, and that is Mrs. Ck rke. Q. Was the levy spoken Of ?—A. I cannot say it was mentioned. Q. Was it not mentioned. ?—A. I cannot say it was not mentioned. Q. Of your own knowledge had the'levy been mentioned before ?—A. I cannot say. Colonel French bad seen the person, but did not tell on % Q. Who was that person ?—A. I did not know till I had the pleasure of seeing Mis, Clarke. , Q. State the way in wh;ch The business w as set. tied between Mrs. Cl ar k e , Colonel Freach, and 601. —,A. Colonel Menet) and Mrs. Clalke wade the ogreerneor, I was nut e rhy to it. Q. What passed hkween C , ,lonel French and witness ?—A. Of course we wished ty get the levy • and letter•of service. .• . __...__. • Q. What means were taken to get the dtter.of uer` icn ?_,,k I uri&rotood'frOM COl. French, that he was give a stn of money tor it. , What'paised bet Ween ColOnel French and him on that subject ?—A. \‘'Vhen I saw hint, he' told me its befQrelitated, th t every thiligAvas CI• WI t were the terms ?—A. 501) guineas. Q. What further ?—A. I undurstand that was.all that was to be given. Q. Was that the - Only agreeMent .1 cannot say what passed between Colonel' Fi criic i an.i'Mf - s. Clarke. 'That was the only one I ktic,.w uf. " Q. Did kvitnesS 'any agreement 'with Nits. Cluke Q. Is tn. not Jtynre or any other bargain but that of the' Sou guineas ?—A. Not preoous to C.J,unel French's grAng to Irbland. Before.tits'aepartur t, he' told ate, if Mts. Clarke wanted money to let her haven. `Q. To .what amount ?—A. As far as .5, 6, or Q. Was there .any application roa(le to the Com- Mauder in Chief tor any its the letterui ser. L vile ?—A. There %vote warty alicrations iirAe ; the !I'lountyll 6 reed uit 0-. is 13 guibeal per ; the re. erkiiting service soon alter ro,r to 1 ! ) •,tutloas. •We t hough( ourselvtis eritii Led to that, .114.1 appitcd to till.: %; ommander itt Clii6laccordio6iy. Q. 'The witness means, that the other rzeruiting parties'were'alloWed 1,9 guibeaS, and his only 13 ?--- A Of course. - k . ' Q. Anti that lie did nor get th e IJ H TtineaS till he' . ,• applied to Mrs. Clarke ?..-A.' Alt the recruiting i-n -;' ties'were in the sao,e situation: ' Gi. To .whom did' lie apply to get the surf' rAis.'d ? L-A. To lietm Commander in Chief-of course. °1 i • Q. Then he did not apply, on that occasion, '4o Mrs. Clarke I—A. There was no occasion fur it. Q. Did he ever apply to ,Mrs. Clarke on any other occasion ? -LA: I dohtiroeoi:l( lle - . . ' Q. As to boys ?—A. You bring to my recollec tion that ten boys were allowed to every fiundred men at the same bounty.—The letter of service will ! i ti for m you more particularly. Q. - Dues he mean to state thatpo alteration as to' boys was made after the letter of service %vas granted ? A. I have mentionedal, the tircunistancearespect ing the boys. • U.. Was that done through the influence of Mrs. Clarke '?—A. I cannot say, Colonel French finished the whole transaction.' I . Q.Did he ever go to t h e Commander in . Chief. in consequence of a message H of Mrs. Clarke, to Lyon's, I • Inn?-L.A. I do not reco ll ect ever doing so. Q. Does 'h e recoiled any Gentleman b r i ng i ng 1 such a messag e I—A. I do not reColled. • Q. Does he know Mr, Dowler ?-'2-A. I have met (' Mrs. him at Clarke's. .. _ - Q. What passed on that occasion ?--A. Nothing. Q. Did he ever see him at chambers ?—A. Never. `,• Q. Did he ever go to tho Duke of York in con_ sequence of any message ?—A. I never saw the Commander in Chief but once in my life, when I went to thank hiM for granting the levy: Q. What 'sums of money has he paid to Mrs. Clarke ?—.A.. From 8001. to 8501. at various times. Q. Did he ever, give a check on .Grant for :++ool. payable Co r ti on'account of the levy ?—A. I re coiled vet), well giving:eool. (not ai check) to Mr. Corti, as the aBent from Mrs. Clatke, to Mr. 'Cockaylie; it ''tillB on hiS own account, not for Mrs. 'Clarke. Q, Does , he know of any loan from Col. French of hOOOl. never knew Col. French to be worth .wolf- in the world, and cannoosuppose any thing of this kind. We•have lost by the levy, and 'owe the agent now 38001. Q. He dues not recoiled this loan then ?—A. Cer tainly not. Q. state'whether the 8501. arose out of an agreement to pay so much per man ?—A. It was. part of a 'general . sum. lf theievy .we were to poy 20001. toAlrg. Clarke ; it failed there ct was no ~ p lith'iigrnient, It and she was. the only gainer b) the business. To , further questions, put by several Members, Captain Sanden stated that he paid Mrs. C. in Batik Notes, .and twver more titan 5.1001. at a tune; that. Mr.,Dowier ;fever called on him at Lyon's Inn ; and that, he never said to him that Mrs.:C. was over paid, and he could, give her no money at that time. The original bargain was 5251. to Mrs, Clarke, and 2001. to Cord, the former stud to be increased at his discretion, if they were suecesstul, to 20901. Mr. Corri was' riot made acquainted : with what they Wanted with Mrs. Clarke, but was promised 2001. for the introduction. Cockayne was his attorney, and spoken to by Corti. .He had:Seen Mrs. Clarke fifty times after the'leVy was put iii progress. • \Vas any direct aPplication wade to the Duke of York to grant the letter service ) —A.; •Certainly ; an application 'was regularly tutid, and : tide matter passed regularly through the Office, He then 'stated, in answer to other questions, that though he was of opinion that Mr;: Ciarke h i t no intleetice (from the length of the time of obtaining the letter of service after they applied) yet he was indnced to pay her, Money in coMpliance with the desire of Colonel ,French, who wished to try the experiment. He He did not think their .requ es t wou ld h ave been re . • . fused, but merely applied to Mrs. Clat•ke to facilitate the levy, 'Prat Mrs. Clarke deSired particularly that thcbusidess should be kept 'secret, and had ne ver told him she h a d i n f orme d the Duke of York di the circumstances ; on (116 contrary, wished it kept from him and all theiworld. Mr. Cord was then called in and examined. By Mr. W nt.e.-....Dues the witness know Cole pel French and Capt. , 4inden Only Capt. San, den. I never, vaw Col. French. 04 Does he recollect introducing Capt. Sanden to Mrs., Clarkt: ?-7.-A, I never introduced him. He in rtroduee Did. d khe - witness give Captain Sanden such direOtions, as would enable him 'to introduce ilirrle ith advantage to Mrs: Clarke -Quite. the contrary, Q., Of his own knoWledec i.td he know the con• sequcnees of (.7ititain Sanden's going to Mrs. Clarke let. Q. What were tli;3 . Captaili Sanden - wa4 intriodueed . to me by Mr. Cocknyne, who told him that tknew a Lady win.) possessed influence in Hie Ciptaia Sanden said, ha would give! 2C".';l, for her (13 aiitOOCC. r I would hpeilk to n Or! the Subject, which L did. She answevd, tl t could du the business, but tli:it it W3s a very di ticult matter, and that she could recommend only persotis of character. Q.. Does the witness know any thing more of the 4:trween Mts. Clarke, - Colonel - French, And Capt. Sanden Cain:l:n Sanden said, the Duke of serewt‘i itun down , very hard, Did he hear any 'more They sad a little among, aong thei,:nie,ve, .1 heard no "more,/ 'etrept in June - i 804, :when. i - WtiS at Ate Caution -Catke 7 twiaseiiiiitli - wa ? brought me froiti Capt.Samicti tot 2001. I put my,narne .upon. it, and gave it to Mr. Coa.arie,_tellitig him that I . was much obliged to him, ir,cl that he had better keep it. , Q I.,fe witn e s s k now nothing further of. the barg,,-, i—A. Nothing tridrc. No more busi ness of any sort passed . between Mrs% Clarke and me, ilicept my mush:—qa lough.) • , Q. Has the witness, since this business has been before the House of Commons, destroyed any •pa pers ) —A. I. destroyed smile .in July 1804, One day I went to Mrs, Clarke ; she told•me sh e %las just coming to tile to tt4l tue, that there was a terrible noise about the business between her and :Colonel French, and that the Duke of York was very angry at t..e circumstance. She desiredlne to destroy ad the 1 1 ,1pers ( °tweeted with the subject, which 1,e0n &.-quently dia. • . Itis the wiines3 &strop:Al any pareri since t 1 voiucuctnient of. ti prcieln proceedings bad notice. I haVe four !Wad in my pocket from Mrs, Clarke, received stern; the Ist ot January List. At the time when Mrs. Clarke, told we to destroy thO papers, I was very , torich terrified,' anti imme diarely burnt- them. (By Mr. Lerruirost)--- ,, Were the letters which the winie,,s received since the rst ot January, of a siroi. , lar purport to those which he cestroyed ?—A:' Ok i , no; they were invitations to dinner. Q. Has Mrs. Clarke ever stated to the witness the Duke of York's-opinion upon that transaaion Never. Q. When Mrs.. Clarke said the Duke of York was apgry, did she speakgenerally, or did she state particularly at what he was indignant ?- , -A. She told me at the. time that the Duke of York was watched so closely' by Colonel .Gordon, and that she was watched so closely by mr:Geteu wood, that she could scarcely contrive to get any I h laugh.) , (By Mr. Baar4sl ortra.)—What papers did the wit -:1 ness destroy They were of little consequence. ; Mrs. Clarke begged for God's sake that I would de stroy them, and my wile, who was present, went home and burnt them. I was tery much terrified, for Mrs. Clarke told me I should perhaps be brOught to the place where I have now the'honour to be. -.Did Mrs. Clarke state to the witness, that the Duke of York suspected. her correspondence with Colonel French and • Captain Sande') ; and that it was her fear of a discovery; that rendered her de- , sirous he should destroy tee papers When saw Mrs. Chake, her carriage was 'at the' door, and She was jut going to Exiisington 'Gardens ! She had. only trine to beg that I would destroy the papers. (By Mr. CaokPa), The witness has said, that after pitting his - name on the Bill for cooL which he received trout, CaPt. Sanden he' gave it to Mr. Cocka) ne. Dees he mean to bay that he received no reniuneration or reward for Ins services, between Mrs. Clarke and Captain Sander) ?—A. N ude what ever, not one shilling. What induced the witness to put his name on the bill Because. Mr. Cockayne told me it was payable to my ord e r. Q. Did the witness owe Mr. Coekayne any moony Yes. I had an account open with Mr. Cockayne iron' r 802 . to 180, and there was not a penny upon the Credit side but these 2001, Q.. What Nvai.the immediate obligation or consi deration which induced the witness'to give him the bill Its the first place, I thought he was en titled to half of I begged him, hoever, to.kee,p the whole; he did, and said, this is a great act of . generoSity, in you,. ,Mr. Corti:! U. Did Mr. Cockayne get. the money for that bill I know .nothing about it ; be wrote. me a letter to thank me for toy liberality. (By Mr..SneatnAti.) 7 , -I1 the letter's destroyed by the witne,s, did Mrs. CI at lie taw esi any apprehen--, sion lest the Doke should know t but pasSed between her, Colonel French, and Captain Sandell ?—A: She was; very much alarmed, atr4 said . the Duke was very angty._. TY. The witness hag itued:that he bad seen Mrs. Claike twice since.-the Ist ut Janwiry, What coil versatioil has lir had with ih;r resi , eCting this trans action ?—A. I SaW Ci4dixi die 6th and on the 1511).. Soon after dinner on the tit O, two Gentlemen camp in, ;Ind when they entered', subject Was introduced; I abietied that rs. Clarke had re .ceived -5901. i Mid that,. to my knoWledge, •Ntr. ,Coatayue had received 2001: Willett I had given up tO hint.. At this they itil,lauAlied at rue. Q. Did Mit Ctarke assio - eny reason for intro ducknethe .titjc:ct,on t.h. entrathx of the two Gen tlemen ?—A. No. Q. Did Mrs. • Clarke allude.to any similar trans. saian before those two Gentlemen ?—A., Nn 'he evening way spent'eanvivially, and at twelve o'en....k I left the two Gentlemen drinking' With Mrs.' Clarke. Q. Does the witness know who those Genilernen were O the dth of . Janu3gy Mrs. Clarke asked me if I cluld gtwss what one was. 1 t,airt Lawyer--at which they were much amused. On the ilk Ohre told me. Q. 'Were the sante Gentlemen present on both .days One wa:; a littltrone, with a iong noic, believe he was ; the other vas hot. Q. 'Who' did Mrs. Clarke say thn other. Gentle man was I—A. she told we, as a secret, that . it was Mr. -Mtllkh, the. Member, who, I suppwe, is now in this House: (.;fiartgii) Q. Does the witness know thenaine of the other Gentleman 'do nut ; but I could describe his lignre: My sight:is detective, or I should not be 6nrprised if I were to see hint here too. (4' Ana - . CI Was any other perion pre iont ? :vat on the Oth. On the 14th there was a persoi, who Mrs.', Clarke told me was a Writer. to a Newspaper. She `nientiono his tiame to nie, alai' the name of the papet with which he wax conneeted bat have forgotten - both. She told ate 1a was to take care of her. - - • Dist he seem acquainted with the other Gen tleman I—A. Yes : he shook hands with Mr.Mellish. . Mr. Corri ‘rati. then ordered to st ithdral,v. Mr. MELLISH, who. Ivid entered the House since his uat - ne bad „bQuo ..tnentiuticd by the last witti,.ss, rose to express his hope that some Hon. Gentleman would put the question to Trim: cot the subjea,: • Mr. Wmtlet,e, for t the purpose of .gratifying the Hon. Gentleman,- asked hiin, whether he h.id net with, Mr. Corti at Mrs. Clarhe!s on the 6th or tf..th of ,JanuarY last ? Mr..MaLtasu declared that he had•never been at Mrs..Clarlie's house in his Mei and the first time he had seen her was, at the bar of that Rome. He wished the last witness alight be recalled, that he might state whether or. tiot -he had seenitim in the instance alluded ti Mr. Corri.mas accordingly ag'aio called in , and on being asked whether C. MersiSh was. the Gen. datum. whom he had'scen at Mts. Clarke's, : he ro.- plied that he - was not. Tio Geotleman .whorn he saw was of a darker complc.:xion ; that in calling 1114 Gentleman !Vim Mellish, he h:Rd merely repeat ed what had been said to hito by Mrs. Clarke, and that it .she had told him a lie, .he could not help it. (ATTOLINEi-G2 A 21.1 A r.) —Can die witness de. scribe the third -perstm, the Yewspaper.rnati,' whom -he Raw ill Mrs. Clarke's 1-41:. He was of Wilalloiv Conirdexiun, hriti . 11 high forehead, um! wits rather ugly ; his' hair was (tark ;' he badly=dre-ssd ..ho .not appear like' an kluglislicaria„ and. was by no many tlegainit his=rneeithl Q. (fly Mr. B4n?stootto.) rfid he scitat I am not positive ; it he dint, tipint 11.1v v •qui:ied to the left, for I was_ Oa svl . c.; add did wit perceive it. Q. 4iVas :'lot his name Finnerty ?—A. I do noi knOw I don't. recollect his name ; I have . bad memory for names. He iold me that he t :id travelled a grew, deal, 1;00611a:1;its AlCca and .6 'speaking of .music, he ex pfeEse I his ;.zu'itality to Scotch. Q. Did he wear his arm in a sling ?—A. No. • Q. Was he not a Writer for the : Mos uil); Chro nicle ?.--LA. He was a Writer for either the Morni;i q Chronitile, the TiMes; or the Post, I den't remem ber which. Q. (By Mr. StiearpAtst.) Did ,the witness hear any one Call that Arson by the name of Finnerty A. No. - • Q. Is he acquainted with the person of Mr. Yin '. nerty ?—A. lam not. The name .of him to NV 4041 I allude seemed to be foreign., .The next witness, caller - 4' to the Bar 'Was M. DOWLER his' examinati64 was to the follow tog effeet (by Mr. WAttine.)-4ias the, witness seen Mr.. Cockayne lately have not. I only returned from the Continent on Thnrsday last. ilas he known Mrs. Clarke- long ?—A. For years. Q. How many Eight or nine. Q. Does• the witness recollect ever having seen Colt /trench and 'Capt. Sanden at Gioncester.pl i a c . : while Mrs. Clarke was under the protection at t his Duke of York • Q. Did the witness ever hear eitherof those Gen. tletnen speak to Mrs. Clarke on the subject or riwir levy'? —A. Yes. • Q. Did you ever converse with Colonel Frchch or Ciptahr Sander) on that subject, ny Mrs. Clarke haVe conversed on the several times. Q, What was the nature of these conversations ? -A. 1 5 . 3 W Coloncl French at Mrs. Clarke's hones, And was informed that he w.s•there on the Subjeti o.* a Letter of Service. For cut ip s ii ) i ti sa k e I asked Mrs. Clarke th e nature ofltis business, and learning it, told her I highly disapproved of it, and endea 'loured to dissuade her from a perseverance in that and similar plans. Q. Did any thing pass between.the witness and Colonel French that morning 1. 7 . A, saw Col. French several times ~tier that. Q. What was the suki= e(it of the•witnes•i's con versation with him Mrs, Clarketeld me th;tt she. was to receive one thousand guineas, and a guinea for each man, until the levy of SQO Men should be coMpletecL 1 was also present when 'Colonel French or Captdin Sanden, I don't know witich,, gave Mrs. Cl:rrke .6001, Qt . it. I att.'l:- 'l;vards saw ColonerFrench at Airs. Clarke's, %% hen he stated to her that it ‘vaiiatot possioie tk.) cure the number of men at the usual bounty, and begged that the number i el boys should be incr.,••• ed in the levy, which, as I understood, was aft,: wards done. •, (4, 'When the witness remonstrated against Mrs, Clarke's conduct, what anowr did she snake What• causes did she -7-A. She said tiie; Duke of York was so tor, money tit she could 'not bear to ask hint for any, and thia that was'• the only way by whicn s,re c 01.1.1 sup. port her establishment. . She was at my rc nionBtrapce, andin consequence I did not, hear trein her until my departute . to South in 180 G. Q. (By Lord For , F,,s .p oivc.) Is not the WitaOSS the Commis s aria t ?•-•-••.A. I am, U. How long has he been so ?—A. Sin. year 1805. • Q. How did he obtain his commission I—A, I purchased it of Mrs. Clarke.: 1.1. Did' the witness apply dire Elly to Mrs. Clarke, for the amiointrnent Certainly not. She, silo.- 0 gested it to me. 6. Did you give her any pecuni:iry reenmpence ? —A: In thQ fast placer 10001. ; and iit other different sums of money to a large amourit. Q. Did you at.the same time make a dire ,'.l arid regiihr application to any person in oflice ?--.A. "To no one. Q. You are positive as to that fact ?—A. positive: Q. In What department of Government is the presentation to the situation which you hold veste(l —A. In the Treasury. Q. At what,time, and in what m mner o.c WittleS3 proptne to Mrs. Clarke that ihe her influence for the purpoSe of ,ohtaining ;;,- , potntrnent ?—A. It' was shem Who aw. tne prop u . l . tion to me. Q. What passed on the occasion ?—A. She ,:tatt-1 'that.she was . -extremely pressed for money, awl re. guested that I .would fts4iit , her, as the Duke of 1"otk WM not pundnal , his'pziyinents. I applied to my lather in consequenc.r: he hesitated. I told Mrs. Clarke I could nut furnish her with .m o r e thacwhich she had iiirehdy reCtiVed tiolll tilt.', ShC then proposed to obtain for rue a Situation, but t}or tint which I now hold. My fatln at first wOuld not consent; bat atker many mouths lit acqui ed o . on my. confidently assuring him that the loaner would nut become public. CI. Did' the 'Witness never - make an appfleat;,:qt in another manner ; and how was the . 11p 1.)o thent communicated to him ?--A. I never to any other person ; Mrs. Clarke told me I 51i06:4 'be appointed sooner 'by much than I t.va, ;' and stated, that the mison of the delay- Mr. Langley, of th e l ot h reg i ment of Dragoons, muit first bt•Gazetted. Q. Might not he have made a regular apilioat:,, t) , through the medinin of hiS owe friends C 'tartly he did not. Q. Q (Hy Mr. litifiKlSB(?Ni. Noes the vvitne:is erilleet the date "iii`: his cornmw,,..catith, r,i4t ; eVirittvon this subjeti ?---A. I enitiot con-, , The first conversation ilt.t I had wit it 11 , ...r to the situkativn of a Conitnissione . r but that was set aside, because tilt. w s% 6 a given to Mr. A.. 11; Mr, Pites sli e then r-!cetntnended a situation in the enruni . 4.. an t , which 'she .represented as alive and gentlenhudY office. Q, What Was the date of the witness'; first coo 'mission from the Treasury ?—A. j thiuk About .icue or Jell 1805. Ct. Did the witness understand trom Alrs. Ch u 1 :c that she made a . dired styptic:limo to a n y 1 ; er ;,•„, the: Tronetvrt.