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t~ 11 : new arranctement. The Report was agreed to, and a Bill, was.ordered accordingly. ' The ScOteli Decree Abridgment Bill went"thtough a Cqrprnitter, the Report of Which .was ordered tabs received to-morrow: - • - Mf. CANNING postponed,' until next week, his motion, for certain-P,apers relative% Spain. . WA-RD. presco4ed the Transport Estimates for I §10..-' 4 =brktd to he on the.table. , MIDDLESEX PETITION, ' On the motion of Mr. I-3 - AnuAiNT ; the -House' re #nined the acijournetl &bate on•the motion resped ini the, Niadles,..‘t - .T.lie,SrE.Aksa having stated.that the questior. be-. fore the, Hotis‘.....was.," that -the Teiition do lid on • table„" - • Afr.llAttarAl'a rose. 1-le -said that he had been in dneed ye,Aterdaylo propose the'. postpo ! ipetnent of the fn tther' consider nor of. thie .tubject from-, tyre 'per; . s.nlston that „whatever .thight•be.the decision of. the House; that ( clectslon would have much greater ' weight lritheCountry tf it was the result- ol ;are deliberation, arid because . try such a po , ,tp(.)n, ment the HoeSe would be less.liable so tire impuia -•ton of having silopted any ,ineasure.in haste,' der the influenee . of passion. was .ceuvinced th,ltthe . postpone'inerit worild et - ble. every Niernti k ir - fa Vote : with greater satid;letion aatcl iconfitl:•-•tice. For••It s oWn part, "he cenfesse , t it was with • cOsi,' cl4trable pain that. hetelt it his clutV. to oppos , ttlie re ception.of the -Petitioli. It ti - a 3 impossible for any man to be More 'solicitous . than himself that the d'oors of thellouse shrinlcl - be opened iiVidr - even than they had been:to the - petitions* of the - people. - were no - allegitions—there were no argil , rnents—there Was scarcely any - prayer orap.etitiorr which he shoUld, be diSposext to, refuse ; but he felt •• constrained to.'refas — e'lliat.whielt was the siirjet't of . the plesenrilis - cussion, because it w:is net' a petition; but a protest ; b.:cause it was not an al)plication, . but a menace. - AgiiluSt ii e receptions of . such a do-' Cument, he - for one would, make a stand. It •,was -evident that thesse wlio teiThed thetnselve-s petition erg were trying how inUch . insilli the" House *bear. Had they heen in earnest in their oilen,ible Objt6f, they :Would iFat' cou:clied licit pctition lesS`dtleusivt.terrng: "Were thq:diglitity.;.ind privi leges of 'the House Of Commons the ..ptiscs;ion ' merely of the iw.fividual _Members, 'fht..) , niight r be abanclon,d , less difficulty; "thOY be- . lehged to the . peg ply, EnAlatid, and out.:;:lt to be rnatutair:cd: ► Little . did those who pretnoled such prkeedingg as that in which the 11Iich!le• sc); Petition origieated, perceive the coustqnenc . es", to which they ulight lead.,. Those conseqn uoceN such indi\ iclual4were pow,;rittl to bring on; lint they would find themßerves pow'et - lecs - tO stop. • . :would be ultimately swept ayay • chaff before the 'wind. Al} tnctd wen knew that sue - 11,.alterripts bin. one . termination ; they kpe.,k , „ that if ihe 1- , ,i,lie g es of the *Hone of CutniVions,were abandoned; the , narchy, 'endetit;Unied to crTile _equally"with : -the peopic, ankh whici it was t.14-! - duvy 0 - the:liouie of Co,i)n - :6116 to limit aild "trust_ ei!hefbe convtrted into at ab.,c.)lute d(:si,o:C in . -• deStroyed. this.tri4th was no i;cw by, the FrenCh revolu that • •suclra tcrtnirilviOil Wa's it; the - • Ciry"Frenc.'ll'iertAti,op . f9riiisi.ed so rscetit 11 . 6 • , himself tc;;;ie oppo:ed the ' reception of Petition,- lie-was at cw stoic tiinc anxious t , .) tlcNaway ally inisreprescnta , ton of mod+ e • - / s lo which the Hotist oft ht I‘3e IH1)1:-; by a , l(Ti nig I . '" - resolution that ;ley t%trv_upt 141;.•.. 1.,0ng to atrenu to of t• the prayer !:y pe tip; , , at not . A consent to r.cord I . inrnals protest,,gainst their I4e wished that s:)nle rinor . c able inilividu.~l than Inniqelf had'tikeri up this sub je6 ;, but he 14,1 d prcsuined to address the po,gt.-., ; upon it, bec,t4se, thou . ,;lit iiiirt , in "alder. to. ,'' strengthen the/t hands, they a ir) dcrn..tricl - the opinion of .all . their Wierrab,..... Before' he sat down, be would say ; a few •words on that whiCh ap • •peared to !Jul 16 be the' prihary eatpe of thelliSnit 'Which the House had- reCeived. The'llonoUrahle‘ Gentlemen on-the - 11'1liristerial . bericht2s:hlid . bests ire quently 'warned of the end to Which the' patti which they-had thought propel to pur,tte ~ nitisi. necessarily lead. Tney had wholly di;regarded the pdblie They:liad einbraeed i every opportininy, e‘'err• to the resent (Ivy, .of doing that which must na.n rally excite the public indignation What could be . die tAson that a - late AletiLber of that House, olio - bad, - deservedlv tindesevedly, experienced the nsure Of . the.i?uhlic, had just been lo'aded with re *ards-and honottis ?. Was the pres'ent a time far • such a protetsding? The Hen. - Gentlemen orposite thenikives furnished tho'a - rgutuents with which.the dernAngties deluded, the people. . Tht.Ty had them selicS decried all public vittne. When those who , were'opposed to.th!itn in politics, ,condemned iheir rne6stires, they ascribed their hostility to the utiwor . thy motive 'of wishing to regain their places, al - - thought ,it . could scarcely be believed that any one s . . 1 'would be so senselep a4to'o6.scfat the present mo; ment; The resolution which he intended tcasubmit to. the House WU— . • . " That the 1-iouse is of all times willing to receivitti-Pe.. titions of the'People; but tliatit cannot; under the name of tecelYe that which• is in Kt6t 'A Protest against its . ' .proceedinzs." • , - 'Mr. GauiNFELL - seconded the resolution of his Find He Sias convinced that if a Petition cOtrched in Elach offenSive langoage were received, • • the table of the.llonse of , Corninons 'would goon be loaded %%VI insults and indignities. Itr addition to , ~tho.cattsei stated by his. FIOTI. Friend as those in whi . eff.the blstilt &tiered to the House really origi . , nated, he w . oulB 'rneution the'veatattOus and ryranni:: ' manner'; in which the taxes were Collected, and which was felt by the people,much tuore'eppressively attuar burihen.. Ike did not -conci.-..ive - • that - the Cotidud of any ineeting at Palace-yard or Hackney ccltid be - so -perniciduS to • the country as 'that of thel3oard . of Taxes in Sotnerset-place. • ' • The 1-lOn.' Mr., WAitn, belone he offered to the nci.ll.6"e' any observations on the Petition then beibre them, requested that the . ` petition ilae:EledOrs • Westminster might be re ad., . • The Westminster Petition Was - , accordingly read • by the: clerk. W.S.llD..thdo proceeded to declare, that he v,rn ;id not have said a single word on.thc present stc . :je;•t . ,•, had he tw: §tooA in the situation of hi%l:na the reception of the Petition-wh'n'h bt en re a d. - Whether the well e or ill on'the stbjea of the 'Westminster Peti lion he would'not pretetid'to say el.e3t - thiS.h.e-wiitr)tl' e Si)ythat he did not egret'llavt,fig brought the-fan g.ltige of Vim Pet•itieV(tistirectly ettikk''r the o_treeioCre. ation of the House, Art' o' -hat ing.pr, : tt" coucfed in terms to him hi?reared of ,most offensive natufe, 1 - 4-.le:l2l:laid on their table suh ,siien4io. As -it was his :intention to vote:toe recepvieret of" the - Mi - dtlium moth - el for was actuated b) his anxiety to maintaM the of the iiiiuse or cdinfoons. y. was no rireaci Bart; rind-'as slit l - fotfse-had-t.he other day accepted: WieSAlTli t iSt v r , ire Could not .s,ee lioW they ,Could ;consis*loly rigt- - 26 1 thee. Petition front .11Iddlese:k. In all ;the'foreible iarguments- which he . had heard agaii;.i sciffermg dm ividdlesex. Petiiion to. be - laid bit egn, thents .whicle did he not consider qe‘estien decid'ed by the detertitination th& flons - e v. Ctli' Jespte:t To the Westminster Petition, WoUld he Con elusive in his mitidy, he 'had:tett heard' 'e n;>. which would unthave- applied• more foteibiy ii:0: iecePticin, of, the- - Westniint:" . ...r. : Ktition. Case 3 of this..sort before:the House ought to be dee . e'cl•-orr a broad printciple. The Hotise Ought not to redeiV6; one Petia-h, beta tls . e . ilie . OffeesiyO kinguage it contained might, be exphied rival, a..fereqd coniruCtion, 'and to reject atrether Pei Mott beCatne. ne,stich quibble could be rendt:,red aeplicAb.;e to it. The prattiee of Joe 'House , ought 'to be, uniform: . It was true that that • change, from clitury to`ce inUry it enight eveis airiuge frotti oue r‘i entyt yeifrs 'another ; but decency equired that it should pet change . in a wee'fi; or 'becareee - the Ch a ticellor lof Exclicee er 'fell 'a lit t:f-e' , Iti:n e p tiea I courage on • one day than he did on Another. - 1 to shOu'il±thei-fure vOte for the' reception j et 'die' Petition;, expiesing e at the same tuter,do-• testatiOttancLabLorreect of the wieciple.§ which it nletitanted,sand•his , eerfect.prepatfation, should any , tuturr Petition of a 'similar Alan:ire be 'pke - seticed, - whieh bete h and intelligible • difference, to , vote ter itk'reje - Aion. • • , • , , Mr. B. 'S. ,12i,u'reri . As'fr,•It himself at 'a Ie,SS - tO. follow the Hon. Gentiettem hi, his ideas of Consislenc . y. Gentleman heving been dversetoreceive the Westinins . ter Putt ion, and thinkieg tleat.. the. House had done wrong in receiving it, wished , the pousi. , to ibllow up* that which lie cw,eeised - to • . •, • be their error, by. cominitting another error inre ,ceiving 'the Petition . under consideration: This not eppeaf e to him to be- theebet ,Mode of preserving tee dignity of. the . House. fie imas e orie of tho J te who, 'on the first• reading of the WestminSter- Petition, thought' Wiftt : -the flu.. Gen tleman . that,it Contained, Matter of, so offensive a na ture as to precli4le the liouse'from receiving it ; but on -a etiore-at'ent fee-eons itier i en; • the objecjiorreble passages appeared.caftable of bear niterpr, , tedf - in a why in whicli it was desitable that ail. petitions p.te l 4 erited people to ;the klouseof ContniOns thouldo it peSsible, be interproette. But was the Middlesex.ptitiotv of= flint degoVprien ? , -Coold any, one:dotitit tli is it Wai - seut .tfti•th&House. , witleany "gther• Vi.. 2 ii).?,l) Wit:l a .eremeciitatat dsight.O.insult them ? 14 , ttrthe ei.i'jharge 0; tneirdeiy, tine-House p s ugtithot to be toe se. Let - dyne' 'Lin their an -- ktty - to siteW , that they tent: tee - n- cieer..s wide' open .to the peticiotls" 0 1 1; tler lipid received the • potei ce ., dr; tU'lf,leetei • ief. Y'Vee-teene. , .iter; did it . st• we • ,1:: - rt-• 8'1:1 •T' !Lir A•ty. petitions, each inoee insetting atle ogetisive-than its 'pfie.,deee, , set: ? Vvi,:tiever inieht liCftl:e sentiments of thePlon:•Geetietean, snub Weis noLin ills' pi 4tt(:li the.courie by Whitit the - Hutts.eev - otilcliY,qt its diKnity... The Hon.Zentienian jn whom the ti,s3ion that - eVerMig brei net ni, IT:iditscriVeW to his .Majesty's':.Mio'istere ;led: to - tliose, , who - tii)ported iheni, a great deal, et what s , he calk;cl the prevailing dissatistactiou of the country. lit the i:st place tie must be permitted •to doubt the existence; of that thS ,, atisfactioni If the Honourable Gentle- ~ : prat , really ; Oelipy...d that it existe,i, Iteolust believe that the donne hail lest the confidence of - the country. Fruit - ) sticli a 'coueltision he most 'completely &seined. • One. of the - itiStances ad-: -by the ;Hotjeurable:GeAttletuan 05 tendi-ng to create this supposed dissatislpCtion, it its, that ,his! • .nijj.sty had advised --- to _select a fo.f. 'fifl a high otEcial sitifatibneVfitiliad, wise her just ly:or uojustlye-re.ceelly been assailed .by popular cla .nt-tur. Now .he y conceived, that . it his, Ma,jv.ty' . s . Dilitiisters were to j eadase his MajestY"to' s liSten to 'pbtiblar clani otir, -.W et her degervedfor nrideierVed,; they would, indeed; experience the dissatismetion. the country. He . e was persp,,aded that the Honour e Able G.,:nrleinan had • used thiltexpression ihadver-- - tehtly, and that he'woUld be'di iposed to'retract it. .Another Hon. NGettlientan had attt - ibuted . h.greati _deal of; this. supposed thssatistaction to the conduct -Of the Board of Taxes.: . This was a most extraor e i — clittaiy and most OfjestaCCusatiOn." . The' Board' ofd Taxes were the mere instruments of nirlianiente' To singlenut that.loardos worthy of- censure for coif] eating a very .pairiful duty, which they w e re coin petit:cf. to 6ectite, flit',•:'eXecetien of which they • have no Option, was • to' cast bbthie where it was wi• spily uotnerited.. With . respect to the prOposed resolution, he did- not 'think it at all necessary, that' the rejection` of Petition' shedld - p refieed — by, any declaration of the itiotitk,:sh);' the House r Wereactttated..:Siiefi a -deciaration wasenot cust .nary. The Hou i scofc,erninotiS liacl,alfeady shewn ['their willingue;ts to receive the Peiitionse of the Pedple When' they catald do; So consistently with. je thelr..dirty to themseiv'ev :lint- their Co.nstinaentse . --; The -mere fact of the rej:mion and the reetd ink, of • the Pe . tition would sufficiently shrew the grounds,oo the HOtise pre6ettted: . .• Mt. Gli SNEELL and Mr;B - Atti-wt explained. Mr. PQNSONBY _colitetidede that whAt -his Hon. *Friend had said with respect - to the recent appoifire, meat of Mr: 'Voile to the Ii lall of the I . lsithiralty was perfealyjnstitiable. ' Bele ft - new: no TeasohS , -by • -tvlilciS the sense-of , tile'-people-of a ,counly sou id; be better collected, than try their refusing to re-elea any individual sem Back to them tOr tliat'purpOse;- Getilleman Condeinn-: • eel: his Hon, Friend for maintainiegtitat 'the aPpoint tuesit of -,lVlr.".'Yorite tot:Alice ; wes e nut sandtioped by e ptibie approbwloll, .the . conduet of the_ lileLtors of e2aftitifidg,B was a sufEC?eitt voucher' for tikeinjustibti of- that :tOticien]uatiOn. H.3 , -was - e...Xtreme/y sorry elioneyer ee that, of die sttbied under disc cussion ditTeredliom that of his /Icel. triettl. He shOhli t r,t vote for the reieCtion' of th 4 Pet Mott e cOUld'not, tellti- any thing - in' that-I'o4- I . -.. tiontmore o(Tensive than' tlle e4 - ..pressibusSpilt•ankl. to the present- Adrnini , tration, but he did then say, . it. the "Petition I.v4ich had , already'iieeti t:t.Cstikd by and 'ltewould'say• it ag.iin, that he . w °nisi rather 1 , 1 ' 6 , . Alit. lid se . ,. and hl-ebn.ht nevi' t file T aLi c r I.m . - pre , seint Minist...---rs should retain thcir offi....‘ei, and t !,a,' , • ro„,0 which tbighf 14, co.nstr :' . cf - itlet, otfo.a . ciau g ht o u . siwaid be able to leave them to t their des - c:il: 'to - hitilliie • the .Fiiiiru L iqo rej; ,the',Peti tion'J. itt the . d„in ts as heredit s ary _ possessions, iliati That the Co s i,' . . l $ 'pc',(iple., Let the, lioirtse constiler th e na• toce, of th e . i siltutt on of thexetintrysho . uld -be mined', He w 0 '.1 1 .". . 'objecq for, which the petitioners prayed. If the : uSe. every fair and constitutional means to prov . t-kl ,, '", . , peoele complained of an Aa•of that U09,:e,-was it . ,' the,GOVeinnient 01 .. ,he c9).ilitty•Oug.! . it t i o l he, t,z73Tri 'llac-" .. - ' tit infii*S?bte...that, they slonkftertny • lidtirions ?,: .nr otlrr fien d s ; ti t on socit, ail O . S.F f, r 1 . 0 , T - ,.. 1 r ~, ,1. C , - - . 4mtli-e,thalyt„ , -pcititiolls.. presented 'against l'ax 13-ills. give tuein his support. , tie vmult;l• -rii#ly-z` . .-t-0 04 ',`": . (alilup ,, k.skivii , petitiops,-were : - not• allowed- t4.! . .....•...•tLe_.Q(')Yertinien ( , but..rotta 4 ! he C . onst , outt_on.7 .. l ‘. .presented. utAkil the.SL-.;s,ion. succetlith; that in. tivich,, :*.were...htter th.it the .Aduunisi ration saquy , ,e..l s '. , ...s.- 'the Bjls i'Vei - e pi.is - Sed) , the tneaSures.dOinplained of • as p it..?ii, Clan 1 lia't t ke, Go e , :-J.tii,tot ithonl . 4_ , b i) .l.. • • , :-.....r - w f 6 psktfaliyo•cv,,.)•-nia,-,titi."paitial, oppressive at; :p.tfll'u -tO tit t.t'.-5,...and - the ecn`;'-ii‘"?ot!,.' °ls, c ' f . . ' f all we' - tat , ; 4 ;JD , - olltic,i, ll 7..Sd• c h i t titio'ps Were -never refused ; an , confary owr i -ttoowi!„ to pie . 9....: , , ... ...: ~?.... Y'L.l' 'lc ihel •-'l4i - JuSe ,-, w6re-'dispo4e& Itx - bu-•; - captiOugt.: hoicklear. ,:... .... , i ~:,.. , ~ A -•- vikli;,it •railrci,'W‘eClFl:iitita€(l-,,ri-thre'itisui ring,than ; to . leall' : .' i Mr. W.:B.il f riftitl'a;'nOi. l l.llliik : tliiS f';tit'iltti should - iii - cit'lb 4 kW 4 ilt 4 `l 3 ''' 444l6 P )sre ' siv Vo' il l id ' tlll )‘st'A lie-on.'lll,- ti r tit;.‘lic. l 6f.l4.'tl):-. it4.4 . (:t-,ittSt6 Nitiof f r So- . wit h"-rspet.l.-to .the Petition • befole 11 -}e'Lltioll :- if t a d beer? l 'ifg : Lel`tV,,„,'" 7 2,41:1W, p'.iti,:sp.'otti,sisilii'"llv`Ohr 0,. the: 1 )1. thAt klm::tioitse •ifail,assciined a„pii- ; ! .. thc,,tit , rs;ce.ivinfrttiat..-?01itt4n,.,b,-c - u.e. Lq.svas, a.cP. i • . v ilege, to ybicit,,,:t ii i o; AV; Y44,- . 11 '4 ePtitled-1 11 4 - et • - the,Y-. anion the -.0 117. 4 :18ive , ./pa.isages were merely direCtecl. had acted : i I I _l_gii : J..y. , :t .priii called . 1.1p014 01e1.11 I a re:yteW • J agßot tki6iy•offi,:44'... ,, :,Twia ng .ci a , •; .,• e r:il le IVI K IR-: their, conduct, -.WO tu r t •se.ititi their plioet'cling4•; : . ~C, 3 •. : se'?: It i'citiii-• li - e - Ilibited.lifli , ';•re'' orfeifsi; - a 6 a . il k' f all this there d'd.ric.it ia,ppearto him any olfyuce.,. , : lf ~ shpuldntntetagt*ist4itibttitause,ibe , A;as.olnpinion 4 -, tLeTetitioners really thought : that, whielt they ex ‘66..71:1•1 wits,Vite.ticl:2cl,,to be.....5Q. 'lt the - -pm-t:t., 3 ~..,,itio n ing n yess& t, heili'd o Ot see 7 hott , rI. couid ext,:: - es za i .61.6,a- . 4,ii,',../,', 3 •• ( •(;,1,i, dt i b e ~,,.: ~, j . , rt i .,,t t ri,...• 1 00" theiriselves otherv . ise; and . swhb would" 'y -ChU -tion 047;16 their.c.otver. %vas to be . d , iet!llintciatl' -. -::liii,,-: di;k=Cied tO such ObjeCts ()fight 'not to he i• 1 .. where Vurlii. 'that , . FlZitt:ie; 'ii. N.Vo;i Id ha v• b ac t - ' j 0 It , 71 $t ,i. 1 ' • ~, , • recoil ed -7 1 4V-0-, ve r y far, was 'it li-b i l ) hitil 10 . h.(l- had trieyrld.e.4kert n i .on tlol . i7iSe,' 426 ,S , )' atlihori la' lint the rrtilli' Of the Allegations which tli•e• Petition 1 : t to.•olv to •deckl , x on the :question :at. iyale : ;il,4 7 ,.vecil 1, contalned.--He knew' of no privilege -- Whieli . 11 nd - . th en ) , )1--l e tfthw t ht it iht - pos,iible:' for ai•ly one t j , I been exercisLd - by -the,..-'HoUse _that .they•had-.not: a reiftl - t - he "p - Ni - trou -- witlio - k - A - :szein'g - -scrrrirthi-rrg ti-fre - j= ii6rfect:i•ight to exercise% He kt - t.- - .v. : 01 no. iliegal , __l .• L'oen . better uei•ive to how far 'tiler might procy t -d •L' Hi itisol:, a.ct.triat they had•committed. lie bad indeed-read . 1,..4-, ce 0 - f ; 3117u1t . 1e consiStent I t ; with their ' Vir.it'C 4 in the•;Westininster im:(4 Aiizidloex•-PoulioriS.;‘ al -1(1 ' 41 ' getliag'it to lie On the tcl.)i..: ,He di' . 1)01 ti i i .h i; h' , ..) .. oi her.proditctrons,,,a great - .deal opout,tbe lieuse . of . wasintenton of the...Eletitors , ot .• V,re.,411,in-tef.,.• Commons as:smiting • to,. be botli„ludgesandji,irors; • .... ; _ n 1 ,(•rt t a i zteint PelitiOD Under sileh cirCuThstinrce 4 i &C. He - had. read all this without otife . ncei but did nOt tend to narroc:v th'e'right,of peil.lojilig... .I . P , certainlv witiirT?iret, f:,-..cause he . was sail's-M.-o)7d, had been a: Nierribr ' rlf tiytt ilog.e tw:ent,y,eix _IA; the privileges .ot Ti.htliattient 'must ;.be•inaintziined, t i,,,„:„.. t y_ seyerl - y ,, a , ,. and thougil at .. ijoh:l , hti fii i.ht , . :: :, in .orkler.Ar preserve; the liberties of the people, ‘tilci i tlive t.a , ki _ i -= . iii 1.1 , 1x) . ,- ;.1. - : ,, ar.side __ q - f `iris c 2 e5t ., , , , , , 14 , . beekrseqie kneiv -.t.hat'-' tlitt:7aoXfttiCCiliW2 Of.tlie: one I_' ii nOt:think Ile could..be 'cony ie4eti of, .:,:;,' -., Lilo_ . inu3t•ticeessatily!itivolyp,,that-0f,thq0.11cT,...1-1 , 9 re- COin i n i t i t , d _i t o n4 , ,-..,4,.. :ale r„, ( 1,,t i it t 4i.,••.' r , ; ( ,,, ~; :,..,ttit , :a.A .: - Ppted, l l4,lerekre,, that : he read : .atoll de p os itions • ",„ nc ,„l b y. 4 , , , 1y.. ii,.,1-, 3 ,7 1 . by - a ,.. , ,-i n d . 60‘ . y . , 4 ,1 ) , ; ,,,i ; . Le,..lr , wAtli • great regr,et, -but 11 , 3 took no _ca . :once at t he'n i •he should tie tilt:tight, voting.as:he.:lllll's`:,. ', i; f.; , W 3ll. Whatever. - The I-Iqn. Gen tßetkian opposite ii,l 0),...1, - „,„„.4,,m,,,,,,„_....A,„4,...4,.",„4_ 44 . 443 ,„... 1 ,,,..0.- . titlked of . ;the evil tles 9-n§ of 'the Pc9PIe.UY v . ltc en had been Said to , he Irirrie.C•hii-, , r)A-4d it - , :lic;outi&ti_;.' - Such iirOceedi!igs as..tCloSe in W,liiCt) these petitions nes : , so ' f.,t ! th, ) , J4 ht• . ft i l ! .rfiyii,•; • ! .- 1 „ ; ,.,,-, ,„•i r i..,..: -,,,,, 1 s 1) •1 riginatt4; were ii3stii.ote4,:- . - et,:f those deSigns be ;.,,,, I ) , c 40 ) .„ 11 1 ) ,,,, ,i;. : i . ,,„t b1 , w: ,k 7 ...# 7. . 1 - ;• ,. ,„ ,i„ 4 , . 09 ' lft - h4 nothing: lf IVlitisters' were-. satified 'that' ltad iii) ii,_,.i 61 .. 3 a. in ' , ..k.:: - ..:1iit:a4 . ,„ lii ,k) . 6).,..i . ,,,,,t. ill ._ such evi l . . designs existed„ it 'was their . dut y to.- part he Was• 861. in! .; - .Vas tLii . which I.va , i inttit !;-9, 6 ,jtl f ,- rnisliA -- P2iflialrieitt with , the ' means WI) ie , 11: • ruig htf t . huiq h , it . .,„.:,. 4 i tv6{ ; ( lit .0 ,,,, t 1 , - 63; 1 4, i .;4,04 14 :i ii ,0, ; / n.K enlble t relit' to' fdirti a - jodginent uport t he'subjeet. . - ,.i-ould ft Ift ttit_. -. tymist ii'n i - e- a any . ptyli)nate dj s - 0ttp0. 7 1 0 : 4 , . . is,,t 2 lie- frt - isteA that •Minite - es -would• not, lay too : ,i; e1 :, to 1,,,,L,, i - aT T '4II - IVliilt.‘,J,- it`,,..'l'ii.,spfi l Ic ca ; it l ticii - -O.MI much. stress on-.the reports of th'e.. - -'proCeedi , igs at ini`ddletnan .wrinic - t-be,,xposed.'.Q the ,:,'"1",.!,:1t..-: r thrta.C_ l C l ?: P.Ob'lie'lneeririgS ',wrildi c -he •new3ptilers : contained j . is ein , a , i , r ibie e i,iit - -, m iiy.,..ori.i l .1 .i. „ ! ffi t ,,,, , ,...,, t 05q% : - I.stiose reports . wer e , ti e was perstiiia,d,. 4fequently. 133riies; He _did I , ( , (,.ti)tn,k til3l . 6, ,, Lixf.r,..ire . il , / dia.. very,iiicbrre6,..' [lle,Hon.:•Ge'iltlentatt,- (Mr. Pon- t sot Otiuhat•sitft) - cif tiledHott - ,e Ak.:1 ,, -'' moat ,rei,,,eqdn't,, soot's) Rrocee:fed,in a tine s!rain . 01. nony•to s; , Y tt"'t the - COminittil of :Sir Franciilii - i?Oel.:as'biLl- Pq'-? - hehad even - reac,4 in:aneyvs . p.iiper tlia.t t '' l ith ) . Mew.: asii.etted.. Por iiiS °xi': part',!'hp had lwe.•• ivat.tist Pa ber for Oakhatnpton I(N,r, \,l'•:' die), at the meeting E tx „... m i l3! 3 nor lia.4 tie i.r.en .•,1 4 ,01,e ;vii..,....,5i It , a,l •In Pal r.w-y,ird, • fled dechred, that the moment . the ,b.; l cit a !: , ;lo , l l i, ey c ,,,,„,,,d ,_, .1mi,;„.i...,y tit . . f p, .,• itleitit%r for •I'V,- , .- - ,1, - ininter was committed 'to the ,N .O „, if 15,.. f4,l,:uil,iiie„ v,ied:„,,,iii: . t , i;iipivi!l4;_e: . . 1'4, - .or, tbe.whole ;A. - that:which was 10 - ni6.141 op - bp , - cou ki : it-b., 0. .. 4;4,g41.t, Plitt: tilt artiet ; ii - liiisiii.on!! . .. p , iition , sicle,ol , .tlie-.finuse liad•expresw.d their tail - wer - e'mo,trejoicad at thin circumstat:cd-2'- l'-fS rtnis" . . pO5l tO 1 to • ' raOY 4) 11 0 :his - IN'ii!-''t)l' - '- C' -) Ye'rnu.:ct t". 'F., ,y iii()lagig, 711 - ial ' lib "Ticottglit7flia, iti•rtm-e tr . .. - ril ~ ,N. w ,this he wit.; persuaded must 11.ivjbee'n a Pais--4 andiustlyloSt a parr, of its Os•pli(•.t,flitt,ty 4 1. tier''6'''''" . ripresenta,tiou of that ....l.:ich . the Hon, -Q-entlernan tbitclatt; T %131 t netvii , listanding it ha11..)414. 1 45,rp,Pe. 1- had:4l4l4y slid. For biti:sel.l th , ,.- , ,re w . a.l, uO, imai• in the Kin ,, 's D:)iniiiio6 , 4 less ai , ,„s.et.l,. to tally tal,iility andAveight-witli. tiie,p,4:/p.,re., ti., a i t . wa.t,l3(4 . ..riir , :-, r '''''''ld , ,soithv.•-li',. they. :should ()o f t kre i ty-ilip .. -:ihr ;.1.,...t.iit)•; 1 ' , a .... flis,Majty's Alitristeis, altlidughaltere'wls •no one 4 tnaiittaio , t1.,- , ,ir privilets. - - I:tiOtigh 1 1 6 \i - i 5 , i , ~,..3 , , •-,,,,,-;-• •• 1 " , ,-.,• , • , --;:"s ''''' "-%; ' 7 - ,:.; •' f ' '' . ts- c ' l '4' e•lie fora re:Orni'in - V.irliatnritt, he ,- vis f: :r ::••.:i.,;porE 4 ! • . Fl., Lie - o r Ciin'nior,S. 'Tile Sattie tic*: 1) Ter ascribed , li l i t i le it ls t ilk...'ileg-u - o f the f:l9,llsp of Ctiinim - ..iii : /, be' to grit, Saki . ic ,ii'on.'Geitt)eri - tan'S declaration, ~tlial* if ~. ea lige - , ft . thev were onCe to be surrender6,l, shOuld 1 , the coun't ry look6d 'at the pritiv . ii of ,theyreasiary Re c om L ,,,, ~,i cc. io ti, v i i,ii e d ; i t . Thi , 2,lii . 1 . ) , . ditti6 4, -to. • BL:idit And of that opposed to it, they.r . nuSt-preler • 1 regain:tuetn., altd,.7vi:rithout them i'lley f;oul.i not di:'' even idle former, • bee;ouse tfie . OppOsition had cell- eliarp I hei rt• - dtty . to the•itatitti at lare.• Ili:it ril ':' •, s'tirNilvr"tis AThieSfy's,lNfitkistt-rs for not having soop e r of t lie . Peti t ion NV b iclli rela t e ,t a tli.!: con iti i 6 t i ,ii , pi- ~ resorted to - fO'ree:durieig the late disturbances.: „Now, • that. • /jOu - 5 . , - , ‘ - cas ~,, a i h it i , 16 , .i irt i : , oci, 1,,, , , , t , ,juid ~, , ,j,o , • `DO,Och 'accus}ition, hid Ih.eri .tni-ftle• in the ~Lloovt •i- ''llebaa one , ' himself been a Petliioner for a P-;;Ii.- 1-1 - °a '. l. 'theniaty . It efor m, , and 'he Shoal' id 'b e - icNicly . s 6 't 0.t6 rill arihiathere.,foi.e.., it was impossible, t 114 t any .;_. Tor W'ard again, tint lied ia..n.ut 1 1 111 .it. w .ut't141,1).4;:w 51 G. L eatleatan',couki have clescribed it out Ot the ,1401 - 4se aslia•ving-been inade„ All this,tentle..i,t ! )° ..l e ' w I ._ l° ,w. i " .- .tom degrade_ tie-I:Louse-by giving._ uill ii.. 4.4.v.iie4'= 3 :,' ,icile 'aud.unw,ise it Si ;('' rely yin the. it s 1 P If' on . .a; for nier-io6casion a:tnore. tne,i,turg;:,qict..!" Newspapers el l tit,. p.iocedings .at pudic tr i cetings, i conclifeVlliiil e been 't.iiir'itibd;iolatiy uni;leantlfie:..r.': ewsp,apers to 'rencesiviould'ifi•ivelderriza;VOicled; z'inti riti'rhose, hitlf•` : It had. been. f - ,i - ther- stated in, the i\ - 1 . which he allndel, that the 'Jon. Gentleman. hadde- - w hi c h- had.:b e .el i t :ii,.,-,,,, iT i,i- it ' ort ' il - A ,.- 4 ,- . . i .w p ;A - 6i,--par 'cl.alied. that there were not above • - liva or six - indivi.-., , liarne . tlt. l i)4. l6l3 nyliaal.4k,irrmOtWattin,dikkjiltit,'Y • duals - in,the HottsepossesSed ot •autiicient:hotiCsty to '616,4 benefici!4'4lise(y6Effi;tts nifrolA t -fti t it*ill,i,l, 7 ' etntrieTilrn tu (11 " anfitt e'r 'if ' the Pec Tle• 11 -tufts suited, and he CratildnOl . bUt w,..141 tl4'ci P ''' I r i i illg lc iii.. rgAttil‘ 1 1 3 inipossibletliat the libn;Cieuteti t ian'could have made-: now . be applied ,. ' . . . ....,,, ~ : i . l , , ..-, .„,,,,,..-,- ‘;. ~ :.,..... 74 0. • a declaration, the dire6l, ii - )fer-ence 'front • which was, • ' 43ls• ' ` 4 ,•lr. At . Frr..Gi RA tp tiii:igfisei. - bi l ..'Atifi,jtiffie , b, rec.:wed without (tarter. The -.cotatut•li • "that out o - 05:8 A etnbcis of : Pat 3 atm t, aly..ut 6.3( : t Were! notorigus ' rogues. -He • concluded, by -S-4.- G., ! ,, j b „,,, ..,,,,,,; ; , ) ,, t .,,,A,,,,i•g e. - : p h ., fi tiu , i i,i . h a d!l,l!4" - -lug, 'that. the 'Vreefit- Petition tvas• one, :whit - 1 - 1/I' z r • lit ilt 16 ~,..,„ ~,, ,n ci .t.Ql , J .,ii i i.i i it r k , ii: r riti:44 , Li - ,•- . 6: t ri,o-.* ; - ii t , c ,„lril.'4‘. ;-- his opinion the'llou-se-waS - bound of all Others to.re-., ' the p6wc.r. 'of . the I - 16 Use 'Weft tsto;.HOC4 - 44.1A - 9 1,:ignknir . '„ '-, • ' *-: . . , tirig . Sir : Franels .; lititilett;.for'addregsitfmtA!nk . ,ir;t4, t t, t) : 'ceiAv-ch.*: li'VA-RDLE ‘ dt ', ,clared tl . la ' t ha had imt- read i.te Its as 'en rs.' a - s . he 'had dune... - . It -('_i4lti' . , a brl,i4 4/ i .A . iotx'. ' :steady part of .t he- c()lrktriil:t.y, Laiostiwbt. , -;4l(4't It'' 4) any the public printS any sueh statement's aS thOse zi -- ‘ 4 x-' t ! !... ...4i.i. 1. .;. 4 rhentoned by the Hon. Gentleman.' 'HP had cer- stea d y p a rt _the taxes,:. that lialdogL.... . . t tainly said,on the decasion'allOded to, iffit the en- nothing now rert rined . for the i-=' 6 . i . -tl aired' otiltrd , Tside --. 61 - Trie Hargi - liir‘Ctirith . lie - S t • COlncrlittals, COintnonsiO do bUt itovtlic - e: •:‘`, v: ti IF , i'l., , : ) fit ..it rt . i (the OpPosition. Side) -'did appear. atremdy rejoiced: .., tioriit':g iattogetwia . -. - It 'tlie‘B , Jl.)j . .c.t..,co;;li)-1-ni.6,-,4 , , at the commitment or Sir F. litardetr intheiToWer.; , grieVances, how • Cou.tri h e , ; i r i ; pett,i...n.,or .iiis...tr,r;afige'"' that they had taken file opportunity of declaring that Withont setting them fora's, as..initbr.tPecitigiiiiier l . they would rally roinid- lii ..I\l3jeity'S . , GOvsrnment, _it tocm ? So ce were afraid (ti,at:3elvitti l'el:ftilin .)i!V and that, as if such a'dedarai ion .were not enough, entertained,. they' .would' -,be','l,;')ild : :.V.Al l :: Writi,o 4 l, .it laad. , b , .!eu'added - ; flier if the presentAlinisi - ty had c . . ;rom all itrarters- - I'hat volnia, s - 6a.,0R4i,r, t 7 l i e ,ing,_ , _ even beredtt ary.se.4s, th , e• oUght to' be supported On consequence of its ' being ign - iiitiinlotiAtr . rejecieti such an occai•Aon.- It he was 1. - vtOng in •thiS st9terrient, - A n . aoh. Oe r al urn , in h a d ilk) fjiosc,'ic.,4,,ai-fi k t • iit, e , ...be was open to ' correction, but as neatly as b..e; 'could' of the House of ILlving hailed with; peouiiat , tr- 4) ' , ;, recolle4, • these were the sentiments' that had been , port the committal of Sir F. 131)rd - cu..' :He" bid . . altered. Whet her in 'the Howe or out of the House, - spOlten, of thetn with 'aerirnonv : fc.ir Sitting 9n 11 1 ' 4 he should always freely 6xpress his opinions vvithout. . side of the Hvuse. . Where woulti fill. have them' . any intention of offence; pd he should always feel 1 Sit ? • .Would lie - have them to g 2! o.ovet to the (3ther - it his peculiar duix to declare his sentiments of pub. , side ? or' would he havx any rticular benches "' lic men fully, honestly, and openly, on o cca s io ns lik e ! signed to them ?. he thought the a Housediould re that to whiA the 'Honourable Gentleman had 'al- f fuse' petitions, btu Upon: very strop; grounds.- He bided. As' he was on , his legs, he Would ttialte' a. ,thought it hilduty to gtiard.the right of vetitiooirg,, . single observiition on• the question before.the H ouse. - ' mostsedulouslY,,when: he remembered-- hOw.bis. lki 1-- . Thellight [lon. Gentleman opposite had consented • •jesty's Ministers had reprdved the City :of Lon ~ .I,ll ' to the . tekleption of the Westmitisier Petition, because • when they 'presentcd- one on the .C.intra'Conven- l Gis:he said,) ht bblieited jt to bp sent by the E1e.0..-„. 'tion; which - had covered the country , with irfe %tors of Westminster. He wished that,a similar trio- :• trievbie, diskrace: - -St ill 'mot e whererneasrberei Live would. actuate liLn With respect to the petition •••••jhwAl the petition on the subjeot.,of n the late caltin.i under cltscussioii. tous expedition to Walcheren lad •beria shut up it; 'Mr, Poiisorgeir and Mr. WARDLE- Mutually ex- the' cabinet of the 'Se c reiar y of State:. •Ministeis . • planned. . Sir J. .A-1,181 ' :were nOw desirous 'of'shutiitig Ili; that H o use agail:sE ' Inv was one of thos e w h o thought petitions. . An. -H en. 4 ent:4-'lllmi , h,; ( l. s;i i t i i t was 0 , . ,- the House had not tra oges:;ed against the onsii to- a _petition. He did riot I. rir.) W 1 4V hat ini2.;•ht be ili;it ton ott , thelaze occ 4:i01.1. Tue:q.:,iestion'w-a. not to Li .13 on. G,entlernan's definitito ow f the .oru e tition, , . what extetiohe privileges of the H ouse s l tou ld . b e h p but e w a s of °Pinion . that it Was, properly-,speakiagr. . exeited, but -Whether \the' House shotiki ha.ve-,Stich a petition. It bekatt ettir , - 'lora,- gripv:ltyi•t.. , „ riz4 . -, privileges. lie thougiit s::-,cli• privilege, we.ae ticcei- coi-wind c d . prayitq;, reli , f.. -, It ;was' the:-Ii:::;i , '- ll ' a. sar'y, and that they, could no . t, exerci,e th.'irincimsi- . sul;ject so to - do, i•nti. he wa., o f 0 •6 11 ,i on w: , i - ...1,,0 , e - , - tertar•tutietion;'wfthout, them. An Heil_ i,,,;:iti.' . . ,' ,') 4 : i. ;I: , (St.6onStlit' iti : (Will .1 1,‘ , 7,i' i . l • r'; l'-f:*. - r 1 :::- .-' I • ,- .111:16 had ail - ailed 'lO d'n'eic2pres'sibti 'that ha •.?.. iir:•p f .y.,;r.,t : •,...-, ~., -,,, n 2 _1f. 1 . t h ere, ,,,,„:„, , ) ,. : :. :n . ; . ;. ., ,• ;; ,..,.. :,.. . : 5..,.• . - tionf him on .a fortiter occasiou - i' lie-wai ri.r) fijellii ,'..'-',.; : .::', :',I;CIA satl, thi‘,-...v,- 2 :L' ;-.,? i ,j ;i l,-ci ka , e ,, , ,,-,..:,.". , :- . . . . , . 1 ; • • , ,: I dt 14 th a. ;,. 11 / 4 • 01 1 vol , - 11,c f i #~~i ~, iG Alt ~i ~t • ! !1* .1 ,