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ii now . befote the,. House contained the insult, and denied the privileges of -piivileges which were - essential to its The_ Westtniii+ter Petition which he siV;sorted had a specific obje& in view, but t his 'Petition bacinc;''otlrer objea than to insult the 1-1 piisr. • I Mr. HI'BREUT thought, that as various opinions , Orevaiied within doors as to the extent of the :1;-ges of the House, the Petitiobers ouw.ht nut to . be treated with severity. The House should aet with the greatest moderation, and not appear, as if . in fluenced by any othez native tliaa a real desire to do ju•ltiCe on the present occasion. The Petition, in his opinion, was not so very improperly worded, it iirqely denied the right of privilege to the extent whicit the , House had carried it, and if Iso the Petitioners had a right to complain. • The people had no It-gal means 61 redress against the privi leges of the House, and they were tonsetittently entitled to more indulgence on that account. He dtd not mean to say that ha entirely approved bf the Petition. ' Mr. BARNA . M was disposed to condemn the lan-' guage of the Petition. He thought the question of receiving it a vety important one, and fit for serious and mature deliberation. He fegretw ; the Hodse was not fuller, in order that it Alight reeeivethe dts- Cussitin now. He was far froui think ng that the ex pressions complained of were the effects of-inadvert ence on the part of the Petitioners.. It appeared to be a cool and deliberate attempt to try the temper of tic House, and to ascer sin how much they- Would really bear. The House were called-up:Arlo put a stop to attelupts of this kind, and to sliew Peti tioners that : they would not put up with wanton abuse. • He wished the House to take time to consider before they decided, but at the sOlue time, if he were called bn io vote he was prepared to do so now. The decisi n, if the House %tele faller, would carry with it m.:re weight, and he should move" That the debate be ahjuurned till to morriiw." - - Mr. GRENPELL sPconded - the. motion. • Mr SUMNER tould not consent `to, entertain the Petition for a moment, the House ought Jant, in his Opinion, to wait tilt to,MorroW ; •the.Uuariimity of such a meeting ought not to influence thti decision of the House. • • Mr. LAMB-thought that. as the Westminster Pe tition hadbeen rec6ived, the'.HOuSe ought not to rejeEt the wesent'Petitico, because the language was not str.heger than the ;one already received and lying on the Table, for that Petition stated that the House - bad committed a gross indignity- against the Eletlors 'of Westminster. The motion made by the Hon. Gentleman behind him fi:r delay had his support, because the House would be et:anted there by to come to the decision on the question fairly.-.. He was the more anxious for a deliberate discussion, as there was a disposition gaining ground ;through out the country, nut so much tp petition for a re- - dress Of grievances as to ex: , ress an opitii:in that the Douse was not-legally constituted. ...Under this lin pression, the House should bejealOnsof itsproceed- Tugs, and come to a deliberation and decision with firm .ess. He, for one, thought the House was . well constituted, and very fit to discharge the duties which were imposed on them, either with respeet to our affairs at home or abroad:: Theparagraph al luded to was certainly couched 'in gross terms; it wonid be improper to Rica the Petition altogether, ' and he should therefore vote for adjourning the de bate. -Mr. WARD.LE adverted to the paragraph alu7ed to, which he IZ•onsidered as conveying the truth, fur he had Milady declared in that .House that they had assumed a power to which they bad no right, and therefore it was tint to be supp6sed he could hava any objection to the Petition as con% eying a 113 He contend, d that the Freeholders of Middle ex had a right to'expres- their:sentiment's by Petition, and those Gentlemen it , Ito argued that 'the: , Petitioners meant to insult the Hous..! did not trteatzthern fair)}; the °lily object which the Petitioners- had was - to ob tain the prayer of their Petition. - Mr. ABERCROMBY thought the =Petition was n o t such a departure from decoruni asVoUld justify the-House in refusing to receive it. He:was not aware hoW the Petitioner's should have expressed themselves in other language so as to .convey their meaning, Mr. STEPHEN" had not the least hesitation in voting for• the rejection of the Petition, but the manner in which it had been discussed shewed the necessity of delay. With respect to the lan guage of the Petition, there was no Gentleman could say that it was such as the House could enter tain, but as to its bett.g libelous, that he could" not at present determine without an opportunity, of reading the whole of it. The Westminster .Peti tion which the House received was not a parallel cue ; that was a Petition from a body of Constitu ,t,'rits who had been deprived of their Representative, and therefore thought themselves aggrieved. The Honourable Gentleman wished time to consider the Petition. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was dis posed to acquiesce in the motion for adjourning the * debate, wishing to give an opportunity for a full and deliberate discussion of the Petition. Sir JOHN NEWPORT suggested the propriety of considering the Petition altogether, and not tak -mg it paragraph by paragraph, as it appeared to him, the object of the Petitioners was not that of offering an insult but to request most ear nestly that certain wrongs of which they COM.. plained, might be redressed. -He was for the ad journment. Arr. BY NG did not see how the People of England could express; their Sentiments in any ocher w a y. lie alluded to the case of Wilkes as a point. A Member, whose naive we could not learn; made a few obsei v'ations. Mr. CALCRAPT did not think there were any words in the PetitiOn which would justify , the House . . tejec-titig it. - - • Mr. HUTCHINSON expressed his surprise that -the House shOuld wish to reject the Petition, and to prevent the Peopk, from complaining of their wrongs. NTo.hing could be more injurious to the safety of the country than to refuse to hear the Pea , • pie's complaints. The question for adjourning the debate was then pm and agreed to. PRICE 0! YZSTE Rank Stock, 2691 Navy S per Cent. ion Irish 5 per Cent. 4 per Cent. .- ent. ,c(1 69114 fuel ;.ent. Cons. 70 L. Ant►. ill 5-16thsi, ti):JD ON I Printed by RICHARD HARR IS, 01 No. 4, Martlet.court, Bow.sucet ; and Published by WILLIAM AR MIGER SCRIPPS, South Molton. street, GnSvenoi4quare. At the Sorr-Opylos, No. t 1 T, Strand. where Advertisements, Orders for the Pape', Letters for the Editor, Sm. (post-paid), must be addressed. TOIIEIGItI LINENS. . . .On the motion of Mr. Rossi th e Bouie resolved itself - into a Counnitttc on the Foreign Linen Act. _ Mr. Rose observed, that at. the • time *rtitren'th :Bill was brought into Parliament -for imposing •3 duty on Foreign Linens, it was intended to . exempt from that duty the linen actually warehouied. It so -happened, however, that the Bill passvd without any clause to that effect, awl it was le remedy,this error that he tiow proposed to they COinrattee to instruct their Chairman to move for leave'tobring in a 'Bill to repay, in certain cases, the dUty - that had been paid on Certain Foreign Linen. • After a few words from Mr. O'HARA, who com plained that the German . Linen was, enabled to come. successively into . the 'market, in competition with -the' British and Irisi manufacture, , the resolution was agreed to, the H se was resumed, and the Chairman obtained leave o bring,in the 8i11... jUDQE§' SALARIES BILL. k The LORD ADVOCATE of SCOTLAND moved 'that the House should resolve itself into a. Committee on the.Judges' Salaries Bill. J.Mr. O'HARA wished that the salary of the Chief Justice at Princeldvard's Island should be incYeas ed, as - well as the salaries of the Scotch and Irish Judges; and was.cdesiious to introduce a provision to that e(ftct the,pendinOill. The SPEAKER however observed, that such a pro position riinst originate in the • specific resolution of a Committee of the whole House.. Alter - a conversation, in' which .Mr. DUNDAS, Mr; WHARTON, Mr. CALCRAFT, the Lotto ADVO CATE, and Mr. LANG participated, 'Air. O'flaitA gave notice that on Friday he would move that the House should resolve its e lf i n t o a Cochmittee ou the Judges' Salaries 'Act, for the purpose of making the proposition 'to which he had just alluded. The Bill then passed through, the.. Committee• the report of which was ordered to be received' to. morrow. -. MISCELLANEOUS SERVICES. The Eititnares p r esented tor' Mr. WHARTON on Monday and vesterday, having' been ordered to be re(rred to the Committee of Supply; the lioube re. Solved itself into the said Committee. - . On the motion of Mr. W.HAgTorr, a , . number,of, re , iolutions were:agreed to fpr granting to hisMa jesty.yal-lous sums of money for diffirent rniscelia , neous Service's ; but such was the rapid and inaudible Manner in which these resolutions were, read by the Hon. Mqver,. and repeated by. the Hon. Chairman, 'that with the most painfal attention on our part, we were not enabled to collect them, - with- sufficient acenracy, to warrant us in laying them before the public. .the Report of the Committee was ordered to be received to-morrow. ARMY EXTRAORDINARIES. - Mr. LONG gave notice, that in the Committee of Supply on that day se'unight he would move the Army Extraordi varies. - •An account was ordered- to be laid before 6'6 Hou.e of the stuns of money that had been paid to the families of Local MilitiaMeu of Ire land, &c. .. : The Irish Stage-coach Bill wa s read . a second` time, and ordered to be committed on Monday. LUSHINGTON brought up the Report of the Cow tpittee on the Insurance Acts, which was agreed to, and a Bill ordered accordingly. • . The House resolved, itself into a Cornmittee to consider the salaries of the Clerks of Session in Scotland. Sek tral Resolutions were agreed to, and the House having been . resumed, the report was ordered to be received to-morrow. The third reading of the Canal Robbery Bill hav ing been moved, Mr. Herbert rose to oppo3e it ; but on the suggestion of the Chancellor of the Ett a, quer, Sir S. Romilly being absent (in consequence, it was presumed, of not anticipating any objection to the 13111), the third re a ding was postponed until to-morrow:Adjourned. ORDERS OF fHE DAY. THIS EVENING. • The Bill for altering the mode of extrailinx Decrees from the Admiralty and Commissariat Courts in Scotland, to be read a second time. The Bill for altering the mode of extraling Decrees from the Court of Session in Scotland, to go through a Committee. • The Reports of the Committee oh the Ads relating to In surance, to be brought up. The Reports of the I rtsh atyl Scotchjudgis Salaries Bill, the Linen Exportation Bill, and ot the bill for regulating the compensation, in lieu of Salary, to the Clerks of the Session in Scotland to be brought ►3p: . ihi REPORT. COURT OF KING'S BENCH, M.n v Z. '.This day, pursuant to adjourntiacnt, Lord ELLEI.i: BOROUIi resumed . the' Sittings at Guildhall, and tried'some'Special J ury Causes, antUng.which t7itp 001‘d V. BRUCE AND OTIIERS. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL stated ; that the plain . til' was a merchant, and that she defendants were' underwriters : that the plaintitY had some very con-. siderable. transaalions with the_ house of Platanow, in Archangel; that in consequence of these transac tions he advanced several surns.of money ,to that house.; and they in return Consigned w him a quantity of hemp, towards the discharge of that money so :advanced; that the hemp was shipped at St. F i etersburgh,,on boards British ship there, in the montli-ofodober 1807 ; but that in a few day after it was.so shipped,. and before the vessel had time to quit the harbour, war being declared between Russia and OW country, the vessel and her cargo were seiz ed, and this. action, was brought against the defend ants, as underwriters, who had insured the cargo against all risk of Joss. The necessary evidence was given as t 3 the shiP.: ping of the goods, and the condemnation of the'ship -by orders from the Russian,Government. On-behalf of tine defendants, Mr. Serjeant BEST addressed the Jury and the Court; lie stated, that the case which he had to. submit was simply this, namely, that Mr. Platanow,- being a Ruisiiin subject ) , shipped the "hemp (As the invoice wou.d •slietv) as his ovi , n property ; ,that when the vessel was seized, , together with the cargo, be claimed the cargo as his pr , pery, and as such it was returned to, him by the captors ; but the ship, being:British property, was condemned.- This appearin A from the evidence ad duced, the Jury found fur the defendants. • Tue oilier cases were unimportant, except to those immediately concerned. WRIGHT AND OTHERS V., RR JAMES SHAW, BART. AND. ATHENS. This was an action. brought ,by the „plaintiffs,: who are surveytirS acting ui.der, the authofily of an Ad of ,Parliament of the 441,11 of his present Majesty, which enabled the proprietors of the houses which are built in Pickett-street, Terup!e bar, and in Skinner-stree., Snow-hill, to dispose of them by lottery, against the def n..anis, Sir James. Shaw, Bart. Mr. Alderman Combe, the Recorder of London, the . Common St•rjeam, and other Gen tletnen, who are Trustee: acting unJer that Act ; and the salon was nominally only against these de fendants, the real defendants were the proprietors of the houses - in these two places, and the object of, the action was ro procure a compensation to these surveyors, for the labour and attent,On they had be stowed Oti the examination of these differrnt considering, of their condition, granting. Cer cares of their fitness, &c. for the purposes.for which they were designed, &c. on which their sales, or rather the inducement which the public had to buy the tickets in this lottery, depended _ But after a full hearing of the Statement of the case; Lord Ellenborough held, that as there was no. specific provision in the Act of Parliament, for granting a compensation to these gentlemen, they could not claim-any thing for what they did, in a Court of Law / whateyer they might do in a Court of Equity ; and perhaps they would have no remedy without applying to Parliament. His Lordship de clared he was sorry for it, since, he had every rea- • son to be satisfied that these gentlemen's services •, had been useful to the concern of which they form ed so material a part ; but still they could not in force their claim for compensation in a Court of Law, without a specific ptovition to that effect in the Act of Parliament, for which reason the pluin4 tiffs were non-suited. , BRITISH IiEVIEW: A Letter to SAMt7PL NITHITBREAD, Esq. M. P. upon the Military Conduct of Lord WRLLINGTON, With some Remarks upon the Marquis WELLES -I,Ey's Government in India, and the fatal effeets of Party Spirit. By Britannicus, [Continued from the 23d ult.) "" I know the veneration in which the character of that great and good man was most deservedly held in India, as throughout every part of the globe, wherever his name was pronounced; and that his word was regarded as equal to the most solemn . . treaties : but it by no means follows, that a total Mr. WINDHAM was among those who opposed alteration in the established habits, or even preju- Sir S. Romilly's Bill on Tuesday night. After de- dices (if you please) of ages, was to be recommend fending the present system of laws on account of ed. .I am well aware, also, that justice and mercy the mildness with which it was administered, and are the very best and most permanent supports of all the terror it held out to offenders, he said he could Governments ; but we do not, on that account, di not help looking with an eye of jealousy on all such vest the sovereign of, the state and splendour which, visionary schemes, which had hutrianity and justice conformably with European manners, must of ne for their ostensible causes. What had we witnessed cessity surround him, to secure the full reverence within the last twenty years-? Had not the French due to his exalted station. As well might it be af- Revolution begun with the abolition of capit a l pu- firmed, that because ju s tice an d merc y are the grand nishments in every case ? but not till they hal sacri- I essentials in the characters of.our Judges, that it was ,fired their Sovereign, whom they had thus made, no longer necessary to invest them with the flowing the grand finale .to this species of punishment. robes, and other marks of external dignity ; and I When he looked, however, to the millions who know not, Sir, uPon what principle it has been so had fallen in the course of the Revolution, he could , lately, and in the opinidn of every ma n so w i se l y not but regard all schemes of th e ki n d w ith an eye :' determined, to augment the salaries of the Judges of jealousy. He asked, therefore, if such a system I of this Kingdom ; if it was not upon . the full and as this was, without consideration of any kind, to j entire recognition of the 'principle for which I am be put up against that of Dr. Paley ? I here contending. I must in the strongest manner A remarkable.phenomenon is mentioned in the i press upon your consideration, that with respect to French papers to hale occurred on the 17th of Ja- I every thing connected with the court, with the ma nuary, on the mountains in the department of Plai- gistracy, With the public establishments, and public sauce, where some red snow fell at the ne.nent edifices, these arguments, when applied to any Euro when thunder was heard. The snow that after- pean nation, illustrious alike in arts and arms, aug wards fell was white'and red intermixed. A French went a thousand fold in truth and justice, when ap chemist has applied this phenomenon to the expla- plied to . the Governments of th& East." nation of the ancient stories of a rain of blood, which I " I cannot resist, upon an occasion'of no common he supposes to have been red snow. . • censure against Lord Wellesley, quoting an audio . Miss Pratkowj Lupolowa, celebrated for her rity, to which .1 think even you, Sir, will bow filial tenderness, died lately at NovOgorod. Six i with the highest respeet. I might perhaps have years since she walked on foot. from Tobolsk to St. been pardoned, had I pleaded the unrivalled Petersburgh, (a distance of 400 worsts,) to solicit pomp and splendour of the imperial Autocrat from the Emperor the. recal of her father, who had i of France, who is supposed to know so tho been exiled to Siberia in 1708. 'lt is .on this 04- I roughly the human heart ; but I will beg to refer cutnstance the play of The Exile, which, by a you to the following extra& from the speech of an poetical license, places the event. in the reign of Emperor, in talents at least, if not in rank ; I Elizabeth ; is founded. ' mean the Right Honourable R. B. Sheridan. Its truth . and justice;Can en:y be exceeded by. its are-. sistible and ekeuisite huineur, and it was deliverej iti,a debate upon a farther in - ovisionl4. his 4uy;l I-ligliness the Prince,Pf Wales. For instance, Sir, (said M. Sheridan) you wham I have the hopour to address,anight di,sperrse with thexpensive selendcer of thacelegantthouse which is now building for you, and all -t he-state attached to your official suite, vv beli ever you are to_ obey the, orders of this house: in go irignp to present an address to his Majesty, you will have no occasion to take with you that shining bauble which is here the symbol of your power, nor to travel in that splendid gew-ga),v,ithe gildedcoacl), at present an appendage of your office. You have only to,walk to St, James's, Wrapt tiu your virtues and a warm surtout and if it should ruin, you will have the privilege of carrying an utnbrelia. There yvill be no Occasion for all the state a ttached to the movements ,ef our Judges on the circuit ; they cafi s , travel in the mail-coaches and the bar move as out 'side passengers, if they should not ;prefer the salu tary,exercise of. walking. The chief Magistrate of our metropolis will have no further occasion to dis play all that•splendour, finery, azd raree-show at tached to his office, which have „been hitherto the wonder of foreigners, as the symbols of our national wealth and civic dignity. You will then hear no . wore of Mansion-house banquets, of turtle and ve nison feasts, ofgorgeous processions on Lord Mayor's days, of aquatic trips from Blackfriar9 to Westmin ster, in gilded barges,, with buds of music and civic regalia. No ; th e L o rd M a y or an d Sheriffs may pro-7 ceed to St. James's in hackney coaches, and dine on their return at Dolly's chop-house, instead of ban queuing. at Gu;.elia,ll. In short, Sir, by-extending this saving principle to Secretaries and under Secre taries of State, and various other Stare-officers, you may save Motley, but I question much if you will thereby improve the popular resped for the State, or any thing that belongs to it.' " The Marquis of Wellesley has also been ac cused of ambition, Noble Brutus, " Hatt told you Cmsar was ambitious I " If ft were•so, it was a grievous fault. " And grievously bath Caesar answer'd it P' " He has not, indeed, been assassinated in the ca.. pilot by the daggers of conspirators planted in hiS body; but he has been attacked by the murderous weapons of envy, hatred, revenge, and malice; -br • enemies abroad, and enemies at •home; who re-• semble, in one respea, the assassins of Caesar, that they have all,tbe alleged ambition of the Marquis-of Wellesley without his good qualities—and in auotber 'respect thoy differ indeed, but the distinElion is cer- tainly.not in their favour. Caesar's enemies attacked -him, in ,broad and. open day, and risked their avvn,, lives in 'the attack 'but Lord Wellesley's enemies attack hith in. the dark ! They, suffer the body indeed. !' to be untholested ; but they do not hesitate to strit6 the iron into his soul ! They I .,shoOt . at hint bitter- - 'arrows,!' and in spite of a display of the most rare talents, and a series of the most.splendid services to his country, they' seek to mangle and des troy his honourable name and reputation ; .they , issue. forth from the dens of Reviews and Ne.A s••.- .papers, and Magazines; and, with a malignity and a perseverance, of which I - know no example in our times, they pursue him and his noble-hearted brother, the Dol of his army, and the strong buckler of his country, with a rancour andim plat able hatred, in the highest degree dishonourable to themselves,. and fatal to the: best intere,ts of tt.e country. Ido .not complain of the fair, liberal, and necessary dis cussion of the charaeter and condud of any states-. zuan, or any commander. It is my ardent hope, that such discussion's may ever be the pride and glory of a great and, above all, a free people ; but the incessant attacks which the press is daily and hourly vomiting forth upon these illustrious men, is p .reproach to the age we live in, and a dis grace to the once generous and manly, chancier of Englishwri ! The enemies of the Noble Marquis have, with that disdain of every feeling of grati.ude and con tempt of decet,cy so worthy of the school of modeln philosophy, assailed Lord Wellington with equal ma lignity, I‘..ir no other offence than because he was the brother of the Governor-General of India. " I will not pollute these pages with the proofs of these' assertions ; their notoriety supersedes the dis gustit.g nects,ity, and they are to be found in every village in the Empire,!' ;,ili,' ncNJ, ORAVISEND t MAY f. Arrived—the Union, Harvey, from Cadiz ; and the Swift, Logan, from Rio laneiro. sailed,the Inliane, Toussaint, for India; Transit, Vaux, far St. Thomas's; Archduke Charles; Moor, for Lima; and the Lord Cochrane, Bedford, for Cadiz. BIRTIIS,' On the 23th ult. in Ely-place, Dublin, the Lady of Co lonel the Hon Henry Augustus Dillon, of a Son and Heir. On Easter Tuesday, at Barham Lodge, Herts, the Lady of Thomas Haworth, Esq. of a Son. On the zStil ult. at his house in Bedford-square, the Lady of Geoige Shedden, Esq. of a Daughter. On Saturday, at No. 92, Strand, Madame Woolrych, of a Son. On Tuesday last, the Lady of William Moore, Faq. of Dodors* Commons, of a D..ughtcr. MARRIED, On the 26th ult. at Kingston, Mr. W. P. Brow.ne, Purse% of His Majesty's ship Fly, to Miss Mary Anne lluirnes, daughter of f . Holmes, Esq. of Portsea. On Tuesday last, Robert 1 - lacien, Esq. of the Inner Tent pie, to Harriet, daughter of john Stephenson, Esq. ot Great Ormond. street. Yesterday, at Mary-le-bonne Church, Captain Lan„ told Redwood, late of the S ist Regiment, to Miss Willie !Isorf, daughter of the late Captain lames k illiamson, ot rite Hon. East-lndra Company's Service. The same day, at Camberwell, Charles Chitty, Esq. of Gower -street, to. Miss S. E. I curdan, daughter of ' , tint our din, Esq, of Peckham Rye. D LaD. On Monday last, at Mr. Leworse's house, in Pimlico, Mr. Levi, a few: On Tuesday last, at Brompton, after a' long and painful illness, in Ins math year, Mr. Philip Sydenhatn, late ot merce-row,.-Blacli4iars, and only son of 11 , Irs. Saran Syden . ham, widow. *WOG fc...Y R DAY. India Stoc,c, ;86 India Bonds, tBs. 19S. pr. Exchequer Bills, 6s. ;3s. pr. Omnium, 1 I ulperial 3 per Cent, Cons. for 24th inst. -,-;"; i r 111 ' 1 o.\