The Sun. — London, England, 1838-09-12 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 12, 1838. CORN-LAW FALLACIES, WITH TEE ANSWERS. ....--- - ( Continued from The Sun of Tuestay.) 9.—Every shilling paid to a ANSWEL—The "Morning foreigner for corn is a shilling Chronicle" would be a great lost to this nation, and a shit- simpleton, if he insisted on ling gain to the recipient, upon making his own shoes and the same principle as the those of his servants, when Morning Chronicle would 105.,., he might obtain double the and the Morning Post would gain, if instead of the former's sh oes l' in t he same time by working at his desk, and buy inserting advertisements in his paper, he were to kick the in of the shoemaker. The customers out of his shop into loss is of the same kind, when the shop of his neighbouring a nation buys half a quarter rival, the latter. There is no of corn for the same price more friendship in the trade of that it might obtain a whole nations than in the trade of in- one. The contrary plea de- Cii;icluals7 and while England pends on concealing the fact, shall have a churchyard un- that the man who saves half ploughed, she ought not to buy the price of his quarter of a grain of corn from a foreigner, corn, as certainly expends no more than the Morning Chronicle should refuse to in- that ' half with some other tradesman, as he would with sert advertisements for the be half of the Morning Post.— the home grower of dear John Bull, Aug. 26, 1838. corn. To the rest of trade, therefore, in the aggregate, there is a balance. But re mains the difference, that in one case the consumer gets something for his money. 10.—As to the question A.—The quantity an in about "cheap bread," the af- dividual will get, depends on fair, as far as ploughmen, ar- the whole quantity which is tioans, and paupers are con- there to be had, and on the corned, is in a .nut shell. Let competition for it. The the price be what it will, they lanes to shut out foreign are merely kept alive as the corn, in order that by dimi wheels of a machine are greased—by quantity. What- nishing the whole quantity, ever has been, is, or shall be the artisan may be forced by the price of corn, it never did, competition to give more does not, and never will enter days' work for a bushel of into the head of a philoso- corn. Shut up the rats in pher to regulate wages on a trap, to-breed on a limited any other principle than that quantity of corn, and it will which enables a labourer, soon be seen how each is to whether at the plough or the have a smaller portion out loom, the canal, the railroad, ` , ~. . -, . • of tne innitea quantity than in the mines, or at the anvil, to buy a certain number of out of a greater. " ounces" of the "staff of life." Why - talk .about . the price then ?—the word quantity is your only wprd.—ld. 11.—The labourers--:whe- A.—ln all these cases, ther these who make the corn competition, and want of de to come in Ireland, and never 'nand for labourers to diminish taste it, or the paupers who it, are what make the mi did make the corn to come in sery. If the Irish arc ever England, and are now dying to mend their best chance ,by " ounces," or the weavers . who are brought down to the Is in the demand for muscle starvation point—all have which will be crested when is • nothing whatever to do with England opened to corn the, price of corn, particularly merce by the abolition of tits when that price is lowered or Corn-laws. If, the English raised even by forging on a poor are to escape from .piece of paper the name of " ounces," it must be by ob-. iVlosxs by JACOB, or the name taining the permission to keep of OBADIAB by EpartAtat_id, themselves, their betters now deprive them of. If the wea vers are to escape starvation point, it must be by ceasing to pay a . premium to foreign manuficturers for taking the bread out of their mouths. 12.—We hold it to be sound A.—Tim blunder, as be philosophy, and not such as is fore, of inviting the Morn caught from Scotchmen, that, ing Chronicle to make his neither a nation nor an indivi- own shoes. 4, dual can gain by buying of an other nation or another indi vidual, that commodity which the nation and individual can produce from their own soil and from thoirown loom.—ld. 13.—And it seems to us A.—lf the MorningChro squally sound philosophy that nick insisted on making his no two nations nor individuals own shoes, and the shoe can gain by an exchange of maker on being a. " Chro any commodities, unless some • • being third nation or individual will to Inmse ant mcle , be pleased to buy and pay for his own printer—this woul the commodities exchanged ; be an example of what two —ld. individualsmight gain,though no third person stood by to buy or pay. Exactly the same, if Germany insists on making dear manufactures and England on raising dear corn ; when, by the simple inven tion of an exchange, Germany might have twice as many manufactures for her pains, and England twice as much I corn. 14.—but the nation which A. There is omission, of exchanges money or merchan- whether it can be produced disc for foreign food when at the same price. If the that nation can grow or pro- Chronicle produced his own duce that food for itself, must shoes, when they might be ba mad—that's all. —ld. had by half the labour em p'oyed in his trade of chro nicling, then he would be the madman. But the madmen have always been for shutting up the wise. 15. —" Why choose this par- A.—We must preach tieular time toraiseenagitation against the folly, when it against the Corn-laws?" * pinches most. When men Why? because from the bad feel the pressure of want of weather it is feared that part corn, is the time to rally the& of the tillage land will prove against the absurdity of al unproductive, and the whole. imperfectly productive and lowing themselves to be sys this is the time you select to tematically confinedinstead to putting part of the smaller quantity nsteau land wholly cut of tillage! and the greater. causing the rest of the land to be less productively tilled, be cause tilled at a less profitll—Oxford Herald, Sept. 8, 183$. 16.—Suppose that the fears A.—We are kept at a of a deficient harvest are rea- famine _price always. The lizcd, what then ? The ports beginning and end of the are opened much before grain can reach a famine price. —Id. 'whole system is to get two days' work out of the la bourer instead of one, for a giiren quantity . of corn, by keeping him to " starvation - • polnt.lf 17.—The hole world will A.—They wanted yester starve before Englishmen can day, they want to-day, and wart. —ld. they will want to-morrow. Their laws are made (as Paley said the body was not made, to produce gout) for the propagation of this one thing, want. Artificial famine is the inheritance of all the industrious who have been bun within _these twenty years. 18. —The foreign corn will - A.—" Corning back to come in, it will be paid for in ou r manufactories," is the money, and this money will fraud which should tell the come back to our manufacto- L ondon tradesmen to scatter ries, if the enemies of the , tneir money about the streets, Corn-laws speak truly.—ld. because it would all come back to their shops. Where is the enemy of the Corn-laws, who ever committed him.. self by anything so foolish ? 19.—We all know what A.—" Make laws against commercial .speculation is ca. commerce, or commercial pable of; and can we doubt men will ruin themselves and that, but for the Corn-laws, you." If commercial men the existing anxiety about the are feeble enough to submit harvest would cause the to such nursing, they must markets and granaries to be take it for their pains. glutted with foreign grain long before this, to the ruin of the British farmer, indeed, but no les3 to the ruin of the British importer and of the foreign grower—and, if the enemies of the Corn-laws speak truly, of the British mew. facturer.—ld. (TO DE CONTINUED.) Sir Edmund Hayes, Bart, M.P., and Lady Hayes, have arrived at their seat, Drumboe Castle, Straoraer. Baron de Tuyll has left Mivart's Hotel with im portant despatches for the Hague. Lord and Lady Waterpark are making a tour in Scotland. Her Majesty's steam-packet, Widgeon, Captain Hamilton, is ordered round from Dover to Ramsgate, to take on board their Majesties the King and Queen cf the Bel gians, Count d'Arschot, Geaeral Goblet, M. Van Praet, and the rest of the Royal suite. The King and Queen will make a short sojourn at Ostend ere they return to Brussels. The Duke of St. Alban's has arrived on a visit to the Earl of Selkirk, at St. Mary's Isle, Kirkcudbright, N. B, where a party has assembled for the sporting season. His Grace's mansion in Piccadilly, so long occupied by the Countess of Guildford, is filled with work people, who are employed in beautifying it. It will be ready for the occu pancy of his Grace's establishment at Christmas. - The marriage between Lady Ann Wentworth Fitz william and Mr. MackerAie is to be solemnised about the midd:e of next month, at Wentworth House, the seat of the Earl Fitzwilliam, in Yot kshire. Theloc will net be any festi vities in honour of Viscount Milton, M P., as . stated. The rumoured marriage of Miss Phil;tis v..ith Vis count Duran, M. P., will not take place until early next season. The grand tournament intended to be given by the Earl of Eglintoun, at Eglinoun Castle, his seat in Scotland, in the nmuing spring, is def,rred until the follovung yrar, in eensegnerlcz!, it is said, of the vart preparations. HEATON PA Ric.--The Earl and Countess of Wil ton will receive a large panty at this splendid scat immedi ately after the anicaster IZares. The circle will Assemble on Saturl3y \veil. and ain,ng tbc guest; yjil be 6e Marquis and Karchilreso of Westminster, Earl and Countess of Cilt s tot-field, Earl of Eglintoun, Sir John (1; rat d, Lord iloAth, Lord Miltown, Mr. C. It. Sl:eridnn, lion. Col. and Mrs. A r son, &c. Lord and. Lady Sucield and Lord Cantilupe t..) join the party, I.cing at plisent in Scotland. Lord Stanley, owing to the illness of the Earlof Derby. it IN i ll not be able to avail himself of thc! 1,. , 142 4 C rt/arl's invitation. The Duke and Duchess of I,liiattfoit cannot be of the • being absent on the cvittilKutt P art : • (erred my motion on that subject, as we all agreed to do, till after Mr. Grote's motion on the Ballot, I took the earliest op portunity of putting it on the book. Owing, however, to the accumulation of business, there are often 1 8 or 20 notices down for the same night, and if you cannot get priority, which it is a very difficult thing to secure, it is impossible to say what motion will come on, or to make the necessary preparations in the way of attendance, to give it a chance of success. On one or two occasions I hoped to have brought it on, but was prevented by the absence of Members who would have supported the motion. When the form of giving notices was changed, and I had an opportunity of obtaining priority, I did so on two separate days towards the end of the Session. On those days my motion stood first on the list of notices, and I made all the efforts in my power to bring it on, but such was the disinclination of the leading men of both parties in the House, to entertain any franchise discussion, that on both days the House was counted out. This was no fault of mine. I have already given notice of the reotion.for the next Session of Parliament. As to the Pension List, I was never very sanguine of any great irnme diate results from the inquiry we instituted, but I was not prepared for the extraordinary smallness of the results, occa sioned by a circumstance which was entirely unforscen. The Pension-list is divided into three classes charged upon the English, Scotch, and Irish revenues. But • when the Corn. mittee commenced their inquiries, they learned on reference to the highest legal authorities,•that the whole of the Scotch and Irish pensions were wholly excluded from the investiga tion. The King, informer times, had distinctly .the right to alienate the revenues from those countries absolutely and without reserve or qualification, to any extent and during and term he pleased. All the worst jobs were put upon the :Scotch and Irish revenues. Every one of these patent pensions, or you may well calf them patent jobs, was thus excluded from ea .— (From the t heffield Independent of Friday.) the inquiry ; for the Committee found they h ad no p ower to take them into consideration at all. The next subject I have Yesterday afternoon, a crowded meeting was held in the to refer to is the Slavery question ; or, I should say the ter- Town Hall, to hear our excellent Member, Mr. Ward, ex- urination of the negro apprenticeship. That is a subject of plain his Parliamentary conduct during the past session. :dr. great congratulation. There never was a question in which Ward's appearance in the rocm was hailed with loud app l a use. the triumph of truth over prejudice and self-interest was On the motion of T. A. Ward, Esq., seconded by Mr. Brain ,so signal and complete as in this. If y ou look back ley. D. Knight took the chair and briefly declared the oject to former times, and observe the difficulties with which of the meeting. Mr. Wilberforce had to contend ; how ,he was impeded Mr. WARD, on rising, was received with loud applause. by selfish interests, ignorance, and piejudice at cvery IL said., Gentlemen, lam come among you to-day, in or- step ; and compare it with the progress of this last der to fulfil a promise I. made, the first time I had - the ho- great effort, you will see that public opinion is indeed irre-• nour of that-king you for an expression of t cur opinion that sistible, where it aims at right objects , and w here wise combi- I was . a fit terton to represent the town of Sheffief d in nations are adopted to secure success.—(Cheers.) ''v'i'e hate Parliament._ I told you then, that corsideringt as I did,. seen the-gradual progreas of the abolition of the foreign slave :did do, rur perent representative system defective, - be-. trade, and the kmancipstion Act of 1833, vrhich.was unforti ht-virg that Gee of its principal defects i 3 the long dura- na t e ly clogged with the apprenticeship system. With regird Lion of Pailiaments and the tendency which it - has to to that system, twas .- more mistaken than almost any body. I create a feeling of distrust and dissatisfaction between aes participated to the full in the general mistake; and Lord retentatives and their constituents,. by et eeleenirg tee Hayrick. (to his. honour be it said) Was the only plan in the i., ase of responsibility in the member, and deenving the House' Who had right viewe of the question. We were all c, nwituency of their right to express, their opitticens of their deceived as to the working of the system. We thonght it men begs' conduct, a fixed and short intervals '; consider, wild prepare the way for ' coiriplete• emancipation, and tees these things, I told you I %collie' do wtat in roe lay to give rise to a kindly feeling between the nrgroesand. their con cot the evil, until it should be corrected by law, by cooing .empleaers. IL did not answer this purpose ; and we shou'd t mong you every year, at the close of the s4 - ,Sion of Portia never have known -its_ precise operation. but for Mr. r..etit, to render to you, as in duty hound, an account of my • Sturgc„ and other friends :of burrianity, who atsisted, him stewardship, and to enter frankly and fairly in . ta explanatiens in a personal investigation upon tbe sport,- and through c:n aay points respecting whieh there mighnextst a - differer co whose inquiries we arrived at the truth. . Amid the conflict of opinion. By thus infusing sornethieeelike life and vigeur ing statements with which we hat to deal, 1 felt a great (1'1411.. hno the system of septennial irresponsibility, I hope, hen- city in making updny mind to that conclusion, and matters ever long Parliaments may last, to merit your eonfidtnce and give you safsfacticn. The srssion just patiod leas left seemed so nearly balanced almost to the last, that -I can nei ther blame nor be surprised at. any man who formed a different little that is gratil . ying or honourable to record ; and when I . opirdOrn I know that that was the case with some of the best loek back at the proud anticipations with which I parted from and most upright men of the day , who gave their votes with yon last }ear, my breast full, as it has since - continued to be. _ great reluctance and grief. However, the Colonial Legicla • of gratitude fer the kindness and confidence with which VOL. tures have settledthe question. I fear that the sirn::- had honoured me ; when I reflect on the. splendid unanimity excitement avliich has prevailed upon this question nay lead which at that time prevailed among all classes of Rererrners. to consderable injustice ; towards, men who came to a didhrent add whet great results we anticipated, I 'ask myself how it i - conclusion to that at which I . arri'ved. • And now, that cur that cur hopes have been chilled, and - that so tittle has re• common wishes are gratified by the result. 1 hope that alf ill stilted from the confidence with which we then looked for- satang will be . put an, cad., to and - three-two for ever. ward ? I may well, therefore, arras before • Lou- with great ( Cheers.) I must now! advert to the 'Corn-law q ues ti ne _- relutteriee end rain. W hat is it that has t' ii turned V.,. ( Cheers )- I know of few questions more jastly interestieg hopes I entertained in cornmen with yourselves last year? I its a grsaa commercial community like this. ThAt.ques,io.: must say, Gentleman, that the blame is in a great measure at- was brought forwent . with singular ability by my friend; Mr. tnbuteble to the conduct of our political leaders. I can in. Villiers, the Member for Wolverhampton:. I never heard any no leek on the part of the stet/sorters of the Ministry, .sut of suhject more ably haddled througaiout or more feebly op the House. I ice much that has filled me with vain and posed. The result of the division was, that out of 658 Member; grief in their conduct within the 1-I(:usc, cnmaity occasions. I 9.5 only were found to support a motion in favour of which I edmit the extteme l peculia i rity of Lord Itletbourne's situation, b e li eve the votes of 95 men gut of avery 10 0 woula be freele at :be cumrtancerucut of the Ses ion of Padidnent. llunourei given, if it acre vitt to the test of the national d•cision to yner s . te a deurce whcli I halt,* :n is tausil, with the pertonel con row. Tiisno nay t midid, is one of the ratots marked peculieriticg lid. eee al Li: Seveitignelard that Scvcte‘gn the. totte,gk of the -question. Lord Mekourne ii, his s?cech on the stdo 'llirarte, in his • polite Queen alto ever sat tedellis B• iti '. l j, et, in the House of Lords, said a great deal about the dang;cr elution Lecaw,e a dtry. , o have committed this Severe! ; I. of uncertainty and change ia cur economical system, winch in ..e ttrugele ni.lowoy portion of her people; for the pcipe he thought to be- the greatest of evils. - But there is au ev il :cede.: of Lis ewtt p 'tier, wauld Late been a carne. While which I' 'dread motet, and that is the tendency of the .systern as then. I eontid• a c .utinit to tate been iti•s duty,. it is for tlit it now exists to give a factitious predortinasce to the interest al..lati,.a of tha t duty, and nct for too redieh can::e-u3nev, that (.1 one class over all others, and 'the enforcing-of that prcdo.. i Mersin Lord M e lhoesno in Many instances, he has no minance by the liaw of the land. We have. been told by been I:sotto:is, iut rash—nut in.pa: tad], but piirti+—and, tri- Lord John Russell, that in Ids opinion the predominance of fo tena:ely, tie turn tidoes lava. , taken durlip; the ...bob the landed interest is essential to the stability cf. ouriesthu c nese a :;te S i3i:.43 Ides thnose , the weight of the tjovernment Lions. Th..t meAns, lam afatid, the Corn laws ; for cer and of tie Court, as n p-eseit,ed by Lord 51v11,,...ur0c, into tat taint) , one of the first fruits of that predornienrce is the Cori: seek of a parry, to Whom we b, listed the Coverer:le:A to to laws, which prodbee great dissatisfaction amongst all other al P••-sed. The first seep tl.e Goveri.ment took in the classes of the community. I have thought a great deal oii [louse of Commons was a fa'se step. hem that mement the subject, and )Lou well know that I have no other prospects t+ this, that downward course bees- Len persevered in 0 in the world for myself and my children- but. what depriii eitlrse which I was ore ef the fist in the house 0: q.- upon land. But I cannot allow any false notion of my own ;nuns to denounce), till we have teen f....talty evemp'ifi.d in the interest to misilad rric in this matter. I have arrived at the c2cie of fie Nlinls:ry, the ea•.y and r3.ld process by nbien clearest possible conviction that the 'Corn-laws are dc.trbnet.tql public naea may descend in public estiination, ar.d chill are to the interest of the landlord. I argue this matter as a laud eisc U•l i e the hopes and efforts of their friends. These an lord, and I consider that these; laws appear to separate their harsh words, Gentlemen, and I speak them with sincee gri,,f; interests from those of the rest of the community, and not ooly hut they arc the truth, andl am here to speak the truth. Ms . to separate them, tut to raise an instirmountnble barrier be awn feelings now are what they were last year—favoureble to Weer. them. 'lti3 a landlord's question purely.. We hear the steady piottre,s of democratical power its ibis country.-- a great deal about the agricultural interest, which ise a ( Ilea-, hear.) As to the mode of working that change, wine!, much abused' term. -It •comprchends not only the owners 1 I nose to be inevitable, and believe will he beneficial, I " 1 3 of the land, .but the labourers upon it. Noma's nothing can detire to make it gradual, because I wish it - to be safe and to be clewer thin that - whether we have a Corn-law cr not, we - be carried with the consent of many persons who would other- shall have a Class of tenantry, and I trust a thriving class, and seise be alarmed, and shrink from dangers which they believe that there will be the same employment for agricultural la to exist, but which I cannot see. Last year I thought that we bourers as hitherto. Whatever difference the - repeal of the might accept Lord Melbourne and Lord J. Russel!, vide - Jut !be Corn-laws tliav make, it will affect the landlords alone. This slightest sacrifice of principle on the part of the Radicals, as our risk the landlord's have to encounter on one aide, and the still leaders. But the whole fabiie on which we bad reared so many more formidable risk of compelling all the other interests of hopes, for which we had made so many sacrifiees, and shown the country to combine to put down our unjustifiable monopoly so much forbearance, was destroyed by Lo-d Juhn Russell's of the other. The effects of the Corn-laws upon the other speech oa the address on the first night of the Session, he ex- classes are seen in restricting trade and employment, in corn pressed an opinion which I was among the first to denounce in pelting the working classes to labour many additional hours the House of Commons ; and to this day I have not seen cause a day, and in curtniling the enjoyments and happiness of all either to regret or retract one syllable of what I then uttered. classes. .Every day the evils of this system are more exten s The principle then avowed has been pertinaciously adhered to sivcly fell, and all these miserable and hateful results are en. throughout the Session, and has created a harrier between countered for the purpose of bolstering up rents to an unnatural Lord John Russell and his liberal supporters, Which I now fear height. Such a system cannot be persevered in a moment after that no time can remove. Lord John Russell has raised up e it is understood. All sorts of delusions have been propagated new principle, and taken his stand as a Minister upon the respecting it. We have 'been told that we ought not to finality of the Reform Bill. To that principle of finality hr run the risk of being starved by foreign Powers, and that we is willing to sacrifice everything. He has expressed himself ought to raise our own food independently of the rest of the upon that point in terms so strong and peremptory, that until world. . These are the moat visionary and deceptive no tion s . that speech be withdrawn, Ido not see how we can again con- which self-interest ever put into any man's mouth. They eider him as our leader. He said, that having only five year.. will not bear looking at for a moment, and nothing but vile ago reformed the representation and placed it on a new basis, self interest could uphold such a gross national injustice. I he could take no share in any experiment that tended in any trust that every class in the country will direct attention to it way to alter the system ;he felt himself bound to take no part with a determination to bring it to an end.--( Cheers.) But is any large measure of reconstruction; nor could be r ive his "looking at the question in relation to foreign countries, we consent to repeal the Reform Bill , by adopting the Ballot, or everywhere find that rivals to our manufacturers are springing advocating any other question respecting the franchise. Now, up in consequence of the Corn-laws, rivals whose progress may against this principle of finality I set a principle of change. be distinctly traced to the operation of those laws. Vast tracts I acknowledge no principle of finality in Constitutional Legis- of the most fertile land in the world, in Prussia, Poland, and lation. We must move on according to the wants of the times. Germany, lie uncultivated; at the same time England finds All that the Reform Bill did, was to give a fair tribunal, the excellent markets of those countries closed against her before which national questions might be tried, instead cf by the operation of the Prussian league. Nothing can be the packed jury that we had in the old borough-mongering more natural than this. We have given a bonus to their times. Ido not see why because Sheffield has taken the place manufacturers, and have forced them to hocome our rivals. of Old Sarum, and Manchester of Gatton, and Birmingham All the old machinery will now be worked against u 3 of Saltash, that the people of England should be deprived of which we used to work against the world; and in conse their- right to legislate for themselves, and pronounce what quenco of the greater cheapness of the food of our rivals, policy ;hey consider to be most for their o wn benefit. But, we shall find them most formidable competitors in our unfortunallit;7. those Statesmen wllo originated the Reform trade. Now, I speak as a landlord, and ask what has given Bill, have been inclined to regard it, not as the means to an its superior value to the land of England hilt the markets of end, but as tile end itself, a n d h ave pl e d ge d themselves to our great manufacturing towns? The raising up of new Glass abide by it. This haot influenced the conduct of Lord Grey, gown and Paisleys, and the extension of such towns as Shef. Lord Stanley, the Duke of Richmond, Sir James Graham, fi e ld, which we see encroaching upon the neighbouring hills, and Sir F. Burdett—(Laugliter)—and is now, I fear, exer- is a direct advantage to the landlords. The more we encou cising the same fatal influence upon the mind of Lord J. Rus- rage and promote the prosperity of the community, the larger sell, who, if he do not change the principle which he has now will be our individual share, and the more solid the basis on laid down, must soon be reckoned a mong those pure Whigs, which our prosperity will rest ?—( Cheers.) This is my view those Reform Bill finality men, who in a time will find it as a landowner, and it depends upon the country,• when this difficult to point out any principle, or the shadow of a shade of question shall come cn next session, to give it proper effect. a principle, on which they differ from the Liberal Conserva- You have had a fair challenge. You have been told by Lord fives under Sir R. Peel. The Ballot division was a severe les- ' Melbourne that though he dislikes change it may be forced son to them, and I hope it will work. Lord J. Russell threw upon him his whole strength into the debate. Ho eunneuted with la•of 'the people, and if you bring all y the voice . e your organs to bear • upon the Corn-laws, I do - not the question of protection against intimidation and corruption, • think that t he two years.—( Cheers.) I wish can stand for which he could not deny, the extension of the suffrage and to see the landlordsh • uidenable osi short Parliaments and he refused them all. What ass tile , retreat in time from t .ein - dongradually, ,consequence? - That was one of the few divisions which have safely," make the change while it may be done ill be forced been honourable to the House of Commons. Lord - John Rus- iby satisfactorily. If they do not they will into dispo ses, sell found himself deserted by the bulk of his own parry ; the f o r y . some of those changes which Providence great body of the Whigs coalesced with the Radieals, anti N sin g l e . bad harvest will destroy them at once. o Government, valid it re or mixed, can voted against their leader. So deep was his mortiiication at , a c ter be Tory, Whi e ,, uphold them ino- for fOod. the unexpected result, that for 12 hours (though the thing Ought the supply the face of the people clameurin e _ e was but little known at the time) he was out. He sent in his' e ,lf , fo_od to a commuutty like this, to b made - the sub . resignation the morning after the division, and it was only s i ( ca indubling operations for. the benefit. of peculators,- with considerable difficulty that he was induced to resume his - ) d -ewho buy corn as they 'buy stocks or lottery tickets . ins c t7, seat in the Cabinet (Clieerss) That boson I hope will - bocome a :source e 1 • of allowing oar . ..de nand for food . to work. We have tried argument and remensvance in vain civilized world? fearAs i t n o cr t e b a e s . ingcommuntcation with the whole but nothinglas so much effect ue pon the minds of persons once 'b that our supplies might ..b cut' off in time of tVdr, I trust connected with the Executive of the - country as a vote of the - • ' add knowledge is daily renderie ,, at the increase of civ i dizatto i n House of Cornnsons.. Nmbers : tali better than are umcnts lin a period longer than that we neewda t r o m k o o r k e f inaproht e, I f 1 .) . upon official-Mem • The fact that two bundred s Members have dispute with one co..7,ntry should unfortunatelyvar' tee . voted, and will vote again, against I theie leader, with the arise, so long as we maintain our nnrivalled skill in roanufa t I ' g • a ' - o.or 70 who votec. with nun wereckagged •. c.unn e in ustry, sr owls-dee that the() our - capital, g - 1 - encr e v, and • perseverance, we may defy compe • division, and compelled . to vote against a' Mid i , if - '1 't ; • _ T, , :lutantly to the - heart'.we v.i! but give ourselves_ fair play.—(Cheers. ) proved—the • Itesonledrie ' • • seasurn which they in , ~.,.a p , , . .t n - lima t our attention to this subject -during the autumn, for on •erate in t S a l • se - no. Ind to .ut e Cli—i.:- of thest; circurnstancea can i the manifest. stationof • ' *- an epinion. from - communities like this, the - (drone - angusge with iell Lent ., • o f 5i0,19. NotwithStanding fh : ~ . .o. r .e o. the Geyer :anent will depend. a You cannot other- Balla, I bone that itaat Session • John Russell denounced tb ' , , i e s i e . expeLt thoexhibit , ion of energy on the part of the Governa different view of it, and to : he will: find it nic : l2sej'Y -(' take Ill' voice cs his onlylirn to c...3.4 ., 0 , f 51 t i v, ce1a11y when; they mug oppose this wishes of a lace recognise concession to the P ^ ''. 2u .nh- the petiole. Members in, ,400re . 0 _ 3 t . o eir seppeetors in the counties, and . }bur only re power: 'The matter now rests i a vOar i . 0 iu.omptd their attention-by the-decided expression • ials, ag Mi-. Wakley said gecera! ;re (:f ode of !.queeZable inc-,ert the, . pecinile haile their a t io n, i m .opinions. There is -• one Bill on the passing of of the 'Goverr.rnent,. erid wrin lie •' •,t _et gr ic at i allate you, as I believe it Will be fOund, of they it renicalLer that while ' .;:reat , pm:tic:U * lo n e Men - di - 213 in their handS• 1 hope - v il f L i i ,. dey ,co extratA daily the poorer •'t to all classes of ° the community,. cane they haVe . the crange. it is their even divot i - ' loud latinitten.) Bill. It was moediall:-;37-1 means the lindrisnninent for Debt lb' , .i nice.—(" "Mark ihat, - lar."- - Knightt' "as they call i. ,ti the Ileuse of Lords, trq - 1 with ilia • 'or, •as'l 'should E 3 ' . Tle Ballotetcrttaas lit he only questien eatinee ,o . e..,,re,...,, Lord 1 v,,.e.hurst ! m i nt:tat: d, by rivsing through the hands of views f tak , , of .politics v..hicir Li - 0 wr , td; an.F g" nt I' "r• - • ,i• t i. - e t e :i , i . n d ,.. n6w to, thee important quettions totteer ' ed. w;th Car- - With r.: ,, ,,,!ct to llt !leo/whist., tTierre is t he' s' lthe ulia ,... d I ii.., • •, r , e ,l. •;,;i'i IC : 1 ; '' : lrcland ;on the' first of these I arai:7lg the Lila ratite-rte. der Isas there been [it!' ';stn(: s , r :'' - • - d'..., e `it ta 1 .„ 1 .... •', - .. vcr s " rn '' ''' 011 h. -g . c.c*ld I bhve dif- I mt Km cotton ) , ssast ctss. By c,..,, ~:in) ecm . ,'Crtt all di: , ciussions on tliit ifrni - ..ci.l;e - I . le , u . early .epposad the.resoluf ions were. 50 • iP: iltle d till atter Hr. Grote'st motion 'en the 13;1! - , , . 0 - of toe Government, be - Oat:se I tonntideredthilillintsh, im l''' t1 , 3" , E , t I felt cotwine-11. r. -.• tto ---pchlth, viiii,h did tot c,rie on till the. kith - Fehrmiry. This is one 1 Reid . j -- • - that .4 fc.t...rnent could be caw', ,ef matenfesi or C 10-T :1,0o; :, r o m : s : isi,ich Ito ade. iiii I (I founded op en theft', our art system estettlislied thet was likely wide: 1 hediene I mnv,Lf aa US:, V 1 a n ..,, ,b,, tv i n -, nittilled. II to work, . I -was sware the 'Caurtdians had Just cause of cols._ ~are i:otice c.i'tlie rn, 'ion. w.liiirch 7 i•a•i,pruinis , :d to' i plaint against the GOvernment and the peepin of England, for insles, e ffeeting the. ill tet ., ,,li Of :i land,' anti i - :,triligebt body I a!,tiic4 "I Leh a eve na en perFtroted to thei:ar.-43 of 613 cnuntry, in ' l, *t chi , ":•'t - ttrn rsns h e nl'aStnn excluded flnna the Iran- 1 hat:ever little " . e ! 1 ' aY r.ve ic l : ol fn ('"I thsnh These abuse scent eh - t a w :n:7. ;flea' _n to. tiat S.;iiinf t eni, , at an: o o. liaado s e • I- • -ocass of Tsui !! , - mp. . . . ova. nv pub] ici ,y al.d tiw rol•resonta:iyelaj l t ec , f • . . . . ''''- • . • chapel fcr tl e ;ron crown, which was brought into the hall upon a velva cushion of the Lombardo-Venetian colours, which was held up on the, right side by a ear,on,and.on the left by a Churchwarden, who deposited it cn a table already prepared to receive it. The Archpriest then opened the casket, showed the crown to the Imperial and Royal Com missioners, and after shutting the casket again, and taking possession of the key, he consigned the crown to them, which was received into the bands of the First Commis sioner, he promising to restore it immediately after the co ronation. The Commissioners then carried the crown to the state carriage, drawn by six horses, in which it was placed upon a velvet cushion and secured with silken cords, both of which were of the national colours. The noble guards, on quitting the church, put on their helmets, mounted their horses, and, drawing their swords, placed themselves on,both sides of the carriage to escort it. On reaching the staircase oF the Pala-e, guarded by a de tachment of grenadiers, the Rol al Commissioners took the cr own out of its casket, and, a's'ter a short interval, it and the other Imperial insignia, coronation mantle, &c., were car ried into the chapel of St. Gothard, in the Imperial Palace, there to be kept under the guard of the noble Lombardo- Ve netian Body Guard until required for the coronation. Two days after the coronation the iron crown, together with the Royal sword and the coronation mantle,, will be earrid back to Monza in the custody of the same guardians, and with precisely similar ceremonies as those observed on its being brought from Monza.— Times. MEETING OF H. G. WARD ESQ M.P., WITH HIS CONSTITUENTS. /~ T the House of Commons, or in any portion of the Liberal party, and the opposition of the Lords, may serve as an excuse for the abandonment of a principle, we can never know what to reckon upon for the future, and might as well put the legisla tive power of the country into the hands of Wellington and Peel, a measure for which I certainly am not prepared. When I look at the conduct of our leaders, I do not wonder at the general dissatisfaction and apathy with which public matters are regarded by men who took an eager interest in them twelve months ago. A Liberal Ministry must advance or be destroyed. They have to deal with a strong party of resis tance; but the party of the movement, if it be ever discour aged, crumbles to pieces. I, hope, before the next Session that events may introduce a greater co-operation and con cert amongst the Liberal Members of the House of Com mons than we have hitherto seen. I do not mean that we should concur in a Tory vote of want of confidence, and at once throw out the Government; for though I would not sacrifice one iota of principle to preserve them in office. I should be sorry to have their fate on my head, since I know that we could only have a worse Government in their place. To Ireland they have been a great blessing, through the Administration ofthe Earl of Normanby and Lord Mor peth ; and I wish I could point out any advantages to Eng land, equally palpable, resulting from their administration. I cannot do so ; but I believe that both here and there we should have a worse' Government if we were to join in the clap-trap vote of want of confidence, which the Tories have been so long talking of, for the effect would only be to place a more Conservative man at the head of the Government. I trust that, next Session, there will be greater concert between Liberal Members, and that, on all questions of principle, they will take their course without reference to the effect it may produce on the policy, convenience, or fate of the Ministry. hope that the popular principle will be enabled to move onwards, and that we shall urge the great question of the franchise, and the other - seepe which we think .ought to be pursued, appealing distincsly and unequivocally to' the people. In your hands, thy fate of the country rests. I shall now close with the expression of a hope that my general line of conduct—though - many will necessarily differ from me on some points - -will be!deemed to be such as ought to be taken under trying circumstances by an honest man.. I heard last night, at the Cutlers' - Feast, of a Nobleman whose conduct had given satisfaction to 1,200,000 persons. Those days are now gone by, and happy indeed should I he if one twelfth of Lord Wharncliffe's good fortune . should fall to my lot. But I cannot expect even'thet. I know that there must be a great. diversity of opinions among yoa, and that manly questions are regarded with greet earnestness by all classes, some of whom nefortunately do not consider their interests to be so closely connected as I believe them to be. I cannot hope to give satisfaction to all of you. Ido hope, however, note of you will be of opinion that I have betrayed the trust you reposed in me, but that I have endeavoured to do my duty as a Member of Parliament and an honest man.-- (- ;r. Ward sat down amid very loud applause.) Mr. BEALE said ho had Witted upon Mr. Werafrom the Working Men's Association, to inquire if he would attend the meeting to be held on the 25th of September, for the adoption of the Working Mee'. Chas ter,demanding Universal Suffrage, aad Mr. Ward had declined, s ling, that if he atteeded the meeting, he must oipose Thiversal Suffrage. He moved that this meeting has not confidence in the futute conduct of Mr. Ward, owing to the explanations given this day of his political opinions.—(The speaker was frequently cheered in the course of his remarks.) Mr. GILL seconded the motion. From the repeal of the Corn-laws he anticipated little direct benefit, but it might do goad by producing dissension between the landed and the monied Aristocracy, and between the lan'dlords and the Church, and while they quarrelled, possibly honest men might get their own. Every moment of their lives injustice would be perpe trated upon the working classes, unless they obtained their birth-right, to their perauns were their title.s.—( Loud cheers.) . Mr. WARD—My orieions upon the Suffrage I never dis gui,ed. I told you that I wished fee the extension of the Suff. - age, as far as was consistent with national security ; and that I only required to be satisfied, that that security was at tainable to support as wide an extension of the Suffrage as the circumstances would' permit. Prove to me, that Universal Suffrage - is compatible with the security of the property of all classes. (Disapprobation.) If working classes suppose that every men who has property is in arms against them, they are sacrificing the prospects of the Liberal cause to a mosefatal delusion.—( Cheers.) I believe that the interests of property, large and small, are indissolubly connected with thorn of 'the working classes. There are delusions practised upon you, and in eeperating yourselves from the other classes Of society, you are destroying . the Liberal cause under the influence of prejudice and ignorance. You have a powerful aristocracy to contend with, which the whole force of the Liberal party is only sufficient to meet. And if you al low the party to be divided by a great schism, it will be to deliver over the Liberal 'cause bound hand and foot, to its opponents. People must be satisfied, before they take any step, to what it ' as ill carry them ; and if you arouse the fears of other classes of society, and show them that all they deem valuable is to be confided say it with no disrespect—to. the crude and in formed ideas of such men as your leadef, par excellence, Mr. Attenod—they cannot concur in it. I have no disrespect for Nr. Attwocd ; I believe him to be sincere ; but he is not the man to whom 1 could entrust the destinies of the nation.— ( Cheers.) I have no faith in Mr. Feargus O'Connor. I believe his views to be crude, wild, visionary, and theoretic. I stand on my own principles, and I think the working classes have made a great mistake in raising such a standard. I admit that their organization is formidable and respectable. I admit that they are intelligent and well-intentioned ; but I think they have made a great mistake in inscribing on their standard a motto in which -no other class can join. Mr. W. FISHER moved as an amendment, that the thanks of the meeting were due to Mr. Ward for his manly and inde pendent. conduct in Parliament, and for his attendance on that occasion, and the satisfactory explanations he had given.— ( Loud and continued cheering. ). kr. PALFREYBIAI4 ably seconded the amendment, which was carried amid immense cheering, by a very large majority. After a vote of thanks to the Chairman, the meeting broke up about half-past three. • But before the next Parliament; you know the Canadians had attempted to cut the knot with the sword of civil war. Men cannot appeal to two things at once. They cannot at the sametime appeal to public opinion and to arms. If men choose to trust to moral power, they must refrain from appealing to physical force.—(Cheers.) The Canadians chose the latter; and, therefore, when Parliament met, a new state of things had arisen. The sword had been drawn, and we had to make our choice between asserting the authority of England, and doing justice afterwards ; or permitting the troops of the Queen to be driven into the sea, and an end to be put to Eng. lish influence and interests in Canada. This being the alter native, I had enough of English feeling about me at once to set aside the mere question of abstract justice, and to rejoice in the victory of my countrymen, which 1 hope will be so wisely used, as to give us cause to rejoice in it for many years yet to come. Under these circumstances the Government plan was proposed, and I must say as I said at the time, that perhaps it was the best plan that could have been devised to meet the difficulties of the case. I believe the Government bad no end in view but to do justice to Canada, and I believe the means were necessary. The only rational way was to create a dictatorship for six months, and when I look at the man who was chosen by Government and the country, I feel confident that Any expectations as to a happy re sult will be realized. I was honoured to have some per sonal communication with Lord Durham, before he left the country, and I can state that no man could possibly entertain more enlightened, humane, and intelligent views on the question. He considers that the Canadians are enti• tied to a good seunal system of local government independent of the Colonial-office here ; and he has staked his reputation AO his future fame as a Statesman upon the success of his mission, which he considers to be a mission of justice and of peace. Lord Durham might have complied with every form of the law ; he might have set. Lord. Brougham's criticisms at defiance; he might have inflicted Upon these people a painful trial, causing great excitement in Canada, fruitlessly reviving the whole question of English supreMacy, and the justice of the insurrection ; but he has adopted the mildest possible course in banishing them (I hope it will prove but for a short time) from their country to an island at no great distance from their native shores, where they will be at liberty on their pa role of honour, and enjoy the use of their property and all the comforts it can pioeure. Lord Durham's legal right to send them to the Bermudas has been :disputed, yet he might have sent them to the penal colony of New South Wales, and his right to do so would not have been disputed. Yet he has be 'n reeressneed as having violatsd his duty, and greatly .stretched , his power. Where humanity is the principle of action, Ido reed. regard, the form ; and: 1- feel certain that wben : the result sha!i be. seen, Lord •Darham's conduct will be justified. Wait the results, and I think it will justify our expectations from the man ; but if he do not adhere to his principle 4, I shall be among the first to blame him, and condemn his con. dect o --(Ceeers. ) I next come to the: Irish: questions, on which I most disagree with the Governinent. Tnere were three great questions this S.ssion—the Poor-Law, the Mu nicipal Bill, and the Tithe Bill. The Peor-law was never made a ; party question ; though it received some opposition on the part of the interested - owners of land in Ire:and, who looked; with dissatistaction upon, the idea that they should be taxed fur the benelit , of the pooree classes. But this ht 4 never been made a party. q uestion.. Tne two great . party questions hare been the Municipal Bill and the Tithe . Bill. I referred to the Municipal Bill, when I was last among you : and I found no man who did not admit the right of lrelatni, as part of the empire, toenjoy the same privileges in their own affairs as we possess ; but the Tories chose to combine this question :with that. of the Church. On the Irish Church, I did suppose that the Government had givea such distinct .pledges to : the country, as to the policy they would Uursue_, that any deparoire from tiiem way in. o, - possible. They h av e departed trom them ;and I ht hesitation in saying, that • I consider the conduct of the Government, on this question, one of the g rossest instances of political terghasse.Con that ever occurred. • When we re memher the fect, that in 1835, this question was the Ministry's stespit g stone oe office ; that Lord John Russell then said, the principle of appropriation was one uf so much importance that if, Sir Robert Peel's Government could only exist by succeeding against theeprieciple, it were' better that the principle should succeed and the Goveinment- should fall that Mr. Serieg Rice said that the attempt to settle the question without this principle, was one of those impotzii hi:hies which no man in his senses could contemplate; that Lord Melbourne said lie considered himself pledged as a -gentleman to adhere to the principle ; and rentem .bering all a I confess it is pith grief and pain I have 'seen the coutse which ties. Government have .pursued on this question. There was no change in the circumstances' of Ireland ; there is no change in the public feeling of Ire land ; the people's sense of their grievance is. equally strong ; and, I must say, that while the enormity. el the injustice continues--while the , funds collected from seven millions of Catholics arc applied to the exclusive use of 700,000 Pi otestanis, I see but one way of remedying the and that is to chatge entirely the appropriation of the funds. That is what I understand by the appropriation pi in ciple ; it is no abstraction, but the great principle of real and practical j•e-tice. 'lhat principle was attempted to be worked slowly aid mildly in the farmer Bills ; but still the principle was there, nee the lri h were wilting to take the concessiones a proof that the evil would in time be removed: Yet now they have attempted to settle the question as it has-been done here, by a mrre conversion of the tithe into a rent-charge. without making any reduction in the Establishment, and ups • holdng every abuse which they have been denouncing for five • years ; and, as if that were not enough, they have thrown a niillion of the meney of the people of Englapd into the scale. I f.-el that lam not betraying any trust, when I tell you that early in the Session, I was apprised of the intention of Go.. remanent. I have alluded to the conversation I had with Lord John Russell in the House, on this subject, and there.. fore it can be no breach of 'confidence to mention it here. Lord John Russell informed me of the views of Government, or rather, he asked me my opinion respecting them.' I told him at once that I considered the attempt would involve the utter degradation of the Government, and be useless in itself. I expressed in the Strongest terms my conviction that thou sands in this country, whose opinions of the Government had been shaken by previous events, would be decided in their l judgment by the course taken on this question. Ito was convinced that, in any ncgociation with the Tories, for the concession of the Municipal Bill on the one side, and the surrender of the Appropriation on the other, they would be overreached. The result I told him would' be, that the Government would be saddled with a bad Tithe Bill, and get no Municipal Bill at all. It turns out that I have been a true prophet. I told Lord Johnht de Russe end 11, that ,as gar as my bumble efforts went , he mi g p upon my uncompromising opposition. This conversation was before the motion of Sir Thomas Acland for rescinding the resolutions of 1835; and in my speech on that motion, I gave not the slightest intimation that I was acquainted with the real views of the Government, for I hoped that motion would serve them for a warning, and prove to them the danger of the course they contemplated. When I heard Lord John Russell talking about Tory snares of which I warned him, I did hope he would not have fallen into them again. The next week, on the discussion of the Municipal Bill, I had the pain to hear him acceding to the soft words of conciliation uttered by Sir Robert Peel, forgetting the snares be bad just escaped from, and running his head into the meshes again. The negotiation, I was sure, could lead to no good result. On that, :I gave notice of my motion for confirming the appro priation resolutioni. That motion was couched in the simplest terms possible ; it merely cited those resolutions, and recapi tulated what the House of Commons had done in asserting the Principle on five occasions, and expressed a desire that that principle should be abided by. I told them, that on the 3d of April, 1835, the House had agreed to two resolutions which formed the basis of the Cabinet, one of which asserted the appro. priation principle, and the other declared that no other settlement could be satisfactory, unless it involved the gradual reduction of the Irish Church. On the 21st July, 1835, the House re fused its assent to Sir Robert Peel's motion to expunge ° the appropriation clause; and on the 4th of June, 1836, it adopted the same course. The House had rejected Sir Thomas Ac land's motion only six weeks before which was a vir tual re assertion of the same principle, and I thought that if there was any consistency in men, no one who had voted for the appro priation principle on those five occasions, could refuse to vote for it again on the sixth. But I was undeceived. Only 45 Members voted with me. We wore overwhelmed by the mass of those who were misled by the idea of a conciliation which b c olea o arsn i ta t uid l g: d ::hato n toelb e ndsy v e.i er be lasting, and never worth anything, it being naigssltt"'terriitenedueunefcnooearftniu:trer;aril c hip i se p r loonet other et ra T andt b too e ppE r t e ues tdt a ai, r tb e yul but opshuo nmtet willnwl et two modes egll trihes English Irish Church charged as a regular item in the budget, as much as the Army or the Navy. This was proved h the next day by Mr. O'Connell, Who, after talking give t he s such a t : o m -a ere a a t b o a e g m at e e r l i l t bagatelle o as thea millionqu question: t ando- n o f roSity of England, declared that his conviction ile; theepgenpele wtoi 1 i s i m n g o ll3 o; h m wo a u n l e d y This practical illustration of the principle was adopted, those who voted against me on the appropriations voted leo a million of your money to pay arrears of Irish tithes. Mr• Hume opposed this grant, and I divided with him occas ion, as well as against the third reading of this n discredit able every Bill ; but nothi n g we could do was of any use The money was given, but as to any prospect of peace, we • ht a s well have thrown the mone y into the sea Thefi might as step Mr. O'Connell has taken has been to originate a fiercer agita tion against tithes, than ever before prevailed. The question has now become additionally complicated. You will find the agitation extending to the rer;ts of the landlords, as well as to the tithes s a general bitterness and 'acrimony of feeling trill pervade the country on this subject and for this Ministers have surrendered their character for consistency and honour, and sou have .given a million of money. I deeply deplore the discredit which has been brought upon the Liberal party generally, by their Inistaken views on this subject. I know these views have beee rot cod upon the Government (and this is their onlyexcuse) by the ' Irish Members. :So long as the peasantry bore the brunt of the tithe sw r, they cared little about it, but they succumbed immediately when the - Exchequer processes were directed ageinst themselves.- lam happy to find that the course Mr. O'Connell pursued (for he and. Mr. Shiel were mainly instru- Men' al in, determining the course of the Government) has been neleVieted by tee penide of Ireland, who regret t h at t h e ir Memters have taken the million bribe, u a compromised their prig.:tetes They are detsrrained net to abide by the bargain, • • , 1 " •• f reed 'Mr- O'Connell sn•l Lave • - into a new agitation agaiast the measeee. Isiirthere are werse consequences in vah-e-dist vomerereiSe: It has been announced to the eheld; that if the (tense of Lords resist sufficiently lone any measure den tiedett by the Liberal patty, the leaders of that I arty will give way. It is a bad precedent, and there is 3.tyipg to what extent it may carry us. On no qucs tion' .e.t .strnnger pledges be given than w: re on this ; alai if the ' inetnetto 'temp rum, as Lord John Rus eel! termed it, •if the mere cheap ill 1 , 1•0 disposition , of STATE OF IRELAND. (FROM OZ'a OWN PONIZSPONDENT.) DUBLIN, SIFT. 8. The condition of the country, at present, is not easily de scribable ; or, at least, it cannot be truly depicted according to precedents. For, at no former period has its moral state borne any resemblance to that which is now exhibited. There is peace and plenty, and comparative content; notwithstand. standing that, disappointment and expectation which will, un doubtedly, continue for some time as the basis of further agita tion. And our prospects, moral, social, and physical, are far from being as depressive as at the end of so many Sessions of Parlis. ment as have terminated since our Union with England—not to speak of more remote epochs. The Tithe Bill, it is true, does net meet the full approbation of any of the parties inte rested therein ; but it is still a greater boon than the most sober part of the community expected from the Tory oppo sition in Queen Victoria's first Parliament ; and while it en courages one portion of Irishmen to persevere in that system of peaceable agitation which has contributed so much to the acquisition of " the instalment," and increases the despondency of that other party who have been so strenuously hostile to any Reform of the Church Establishment—it convinces every man capable of duly regarding the progress of events, that Ireland is being now subjected to the seritons attention of a Go vernment determined to probe her wounds and long-festering sores, and apply the best remedies they can procure to, her improvement. This, I say, is the prevailing impression on the minds of the most reflecting portion of the people, of all classes and shades of political feeling and opinion. But, while asserting thus much in general of my countrymen, I am free to admit that Government does not experience a full measure of approbation from all its supporters, more than from its opponents. The former think it too Conservative and defe rential to the prejudices of its political enemies, while the latter imagine that their rights and privileges are endangered in the enactments of the last Sessions. Time only can determine how far either party has just cause of complaint—or whether or not the policy of a juste milieu system of Reform, will in the end be most advantageous to the interests of all. In the meantime Mr. Nicholls, one of the Poor-law Com missioners, has arrived here, for the purpose of carrying the Act of last Session into effect. Never, certainly, since the advent of Henry the Second, has any Englishman come to this country armed with powers which are likely to have such in. fluence on the future destinies of the nation. It is admitted, on all sides, that the working of the " Poor-law system" must be productive either of much good or much evil to the social c ondition of _lreland. And if there be many persons sanguine, as to its favourable results, there are also many persons appre. pensive of the contrary : As far, however, as I can collect the opinions of the better this—that Lord Norma nb y' s Government and the Commission ersinformed on the subject, they amount to are both determined that the introduction of the measure shall only be proportionate to the actual wants of the poor, and to the extent in which it will be found beneficial ; - and that it shall not be prejudiced by the appointment of an ignorant or incompetent agency and administration. It is understood that the Commissioners have been left com pletely to their own selection of Officers, both by the English and Irish Governments, and that there is, at this moment, the most strict and rigid inquiry into the character and compe tency of the numerous candidates for employment under the Act. A perseverance in this course alone will have a good moral effect upon the country, and tend very mueh to elevate the social condition of the people. But the Reform effected in the system in England is not sufficiently known in this country, and therefore much prejudice on the subject remains to he removed. It is not known, for example, that the old system that prevailed in England and Wales for the year 1835, and which cost the nation eight millions of money an_ without relieving the. poor, or preventing those riot and conflagrations then so numerous and appalling, has been almost completely superseded; and that the "destitute poor" and others requi:ing relief arc now supported for half that su m ; and that prejudices of all kinds agai ns t th e c h ange are O intotp corruption of the system in Ireland have beer' s lowly vanishing. The arguments of all those wh o h ave c p. Fri o . a s i e n r i f yf tic f;u introduction ndedottthe a e b f m P e l o earn crrt - ' Engl.:ncl, not relscting that " rx abusu non arquitur ad u sum," and that the most elite advocates of the former have horn anost.strcneuus vud active in -* d • (-ter) ing rind removing the evils of the latte-. • Lou! Suffield eommeuted m c itnn [hint is expected to have a Euccesiion of members this vt ar, and to be conducted with much spirit.' CIGAR SMOKING.---Ts'Yo pet sous of very moderate .nge lia7c dird within a sho r t p er iod o f eac h et h er , at.Chelten ham, of i:lteinal ulcers, brought:on, in th , .:.(.01i00f an cm• 7 rent n.edicsl practitioaev, b: r the excessive use of cigars. CART CIRCULA WINDSOR, TUESDAY.—This afternoon her Majesty took. airing in the Park on horseback, accompanied by the King and Queen of the Belgians, Prince Esterhazy, Prince Nicho las Esterhazy, her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent, Viscount Falkland,- Lord and Lady Portman, Viscount Mel bourne, B troness Lsbzcn, Sir William Lumley, the Hon. Colonel Cavendish, and others of the su;te. The King and Queen of the Belgians paid a morning visit to her Royal Highness the Duchess of Gloucester, at Bagshot Pi;rk. Their Majesties returned to the Castle at three o'clock. The Royal dinner party this evening included the fel lo;xing:—Her Royal Highness , the Duchess of Kent, the King and Queen of the Belgians, Lady Portman, Madania la Baronne d'Hooghvorst, Baroness Lchzen, Prince Ester ' hazy, Prince Nicholas Esterhazy, Lady Forbes, the Hon' Miss Paget, the Hon. Miss Anson, Lord and Lady Falkland, Viscount Melbourne, the Earl and Countess of Albemarle, Count d'Arschot, Mons. Van de Weyer, Mons. Van Pro t ; General Goblet, Sir William Luwley, the Hon. Co orie l Cavendish, the Hon. C. A. Murray ; Mr. anal Mrs. Hsir court, of St. Leonard's; the Hon. Miss Cavendish, and William Henry Fremantle. ,k an . Colonel Weymss took his departure this aiming. Sir George Villiers transacted business yet tterday at the Foreign Department. The Agent for the Cape of Good Hope trstnsacted bug' ness yesterday at the Colonial Department. The Neapolitan, Turkish, Russian, and Fren ch. Ambassa dors transacted business yesterday at the Foreign Departm ent ' BarOn Bulow, Count Pollon, and Baron R. 2hausen tran sacted business yesterday at the Foreign Office. Williem Allen and Mr. Peck had intervice ws with Lord Glenelg yesterday, at the Colonial Office. Despatches from Sir Howard Douglas, Lor 1 High Coma missioner of the lonian Islands, were teceived yeste rday a the: Colonial-office. Despatches, dated the 14th of August, were received yes terday at the Foreign Department from the Bri fish Consul 51 : Alexandria. Despatches, dated the 15th of August, were. received Yes' terday at the Colonial Department from Major-General 13°6* verie, K. C. 8., the Governor of Malta. Despatch - s, dated the 31st of August, were received Yes terday at the Colonial Department from Major-Gen eral Woodford, K. C. 8., the. Governor of Gibraltar. • ed Despatches, dated the 4th of September, were reca ll '. yesterday at the Foreign Department from the British Charg cl'..Afftires at Lisbon. Despatches, dated the sth of September, ; were receivedi yesterday at the Foreign Departmentfrom the B ritish CO° at Oporto. Despatches, dated the sth of September, were -4 eceived terday at the Foreign Office from the British Con.ml at Despatches, dated the 9th of May, were receivt td yesterdai at the India Board from Lord AutOtland, the Governor- General of India. Despatches were forwarded yesterday from . the F°r ei g l3 Department for the British Charge d'Affaires at 31.adrid• FASHIONABLE INTELLIGENCE' ARRIVALS. it The Viscountzsa Asbbrook and the Hon. Miss Flowe r ' a, Fern Hill, Windsor, from Cowes, Isle of Wight; Major, Mrs. M'Farline, at Marshall Thompson's Hotel, Cavend_is' square, from Tonbridc Wells; Mr O'Flanagala and 01 '7 - Dowell, at ditto, from Dublin ; Miss Chauncey at ditto. S. Vice Admiral Admiral Sir Tremayne DEPARTURE and Lady Rodd, from Winv pole street, on a tour Lady and Mrs. Wombvveli A , on a ur - ,, tinental tour ; the Right lion . Thomas Grenville, from Cle ce ; land-square, for Dropmore Lodge, Bucks; M rs . Murry from Thomas's Hotel, Berkeley-square, for the Contine r "i Mr. Curran, from English's Hotel, for ditto; the Marquis at Marchioness of Breadalbane, from Park-lane, for Italy; 1 " 8 4 Louisa Lygon, for Brighton ; Mr. and Mrs. Henry Ba r ri e from Stanhope- street, on a vi s it t o Si r R o b ert an d Lady o at Drayton Manor, Staffordshi re; th e H on . Ri c h ar d Wats o ', for Rockingham Castle ; Lady Gore Booth, for Bright on ' ° Mr. and Mrs. Pleydeil Bouvcrie for their seat, near Cr', ;, lade ; Mr. and Mrs. Wyndham Portman, from Eaton - P °l ' for the Isle of Wight; Lady Glynne , Sir Stephen G 1 Y, 0 , 1- 0 - and the Misses Glynn°, from Berkeley-squa re , on a - Cont d the tal tour; Lady Blantyre and the Hon. Misses Stuart, fo r North ; the Earl and Countess of Devon, from O r d 5. nor-square, for Dover. _ CHANGES. na ; The Duke of Manchester, at Baden Baden, front Vi 6B- cf. the Right Hon. Sir Arthur and Lady Augusta Piget; td family, at Waiterleo-crescent, Dover, from their seat in `, L ; New Forest, Hants ; Lord and Lady Petre, and farniil , ;; the Bedford Hotel, Brighton, from Thorndon Hall, Esli e Lord and Lady Holland, from Holland House, Keasi4 :°or, for Paris; Lieut. and Mrs. Henry Brand, on a visit to M General and Mrs. Ellice, at the Governor's residenc i i, r . s r mouth, from the seat'of the Hon. Gen. Trevor, the Gly ale 0 1: „& Lewes, Susses ; the Ladies St. Maur, at Leamington,:2 tr • from Wimbledon Park • Lord Fitzallcn, at Milan., from , berry, Savoy ; Lord Claude Hamilton, at fronn a a Ol in Italy ; the Earl and Countess of Leven aad m e l„,;1 a ka family, at Balgonie House, Ftfeshire, front a tour; the rg ir , and Duchess of Leinster, and Lady 01iy;.4 Fi tz , e ra ld, at ; ton House, county Kildare, from Dubl:in; Admiral L o ri l uo st vine, at Dieppe, from Brightor;, the Earl of Ra rifut IY, ois Dieppe, from Paris; Lord anti Lady Suffield, from G u Park, Suffolk, on a visit t o t h q DukDuchess af e ando mond, at Gordon Castle, Banffshire, N. B. ; Count . 1 ` rr o . zewic, at Frankfort on the Maine from Wiesbaden ; ;,-. to countess Aslibrook, and th e H on. Miss Flower, from a vir"f o r Sir Charles Metcalfe, G. C. 8., at Ferne-hill, Windadr • the Isle of Wi g ht. _ • —. Her Majesty has been pleased to mary and annual order for Irish poplins, as an encor 3 s o ry. ment to this branch of manufacture in Dublin and its v' cl s pa A very numerous assemblage of the nobility ect ect relatives of his Grace the Duke of Wellington arc "1? - o etii., we arc informed, at Walmcr Castle, at the close of this -4 1 1 . 1 :0 give her cr..:.: Amongst the guests invited are, we understand. L' LI: and Lady Cowley, Lord and Lady Maryborough,.. Marcl.r . 7oo , . Marchiones s of Salisbury, Sir Henry and Lady En' i ll, g• dingo, Lord and Lady Fitiroy Somerset, Sir Thr-Prn,t / lo ye. Hardy, &c. Hi s G race w ill a f terwar d s go to Straelifiel" e.by r , The Duke an d D uc h ess o f Beaufori we re petted to b e j o i ne d at Ai x, the latter end of last w e "! Cod' Mr. C. W. Codrington, M.P., and Lady Georgia n rington, im me di ate l y a f ter wh i ch the whole party, .l i c, wer e ; the Marqui s o f W orcester and Lady Augusta Somer s ' to proceed t o Mil an . The party, after making a thr ee tour in Italy, return to this eountry. . 1 sin The Duchess of. iiordor having* disposed o ily in mansion in Belgra.ve-square, intends to res ide vv b° Scotland. left The Duke and Duchess of Hamilton I.l3„vGouglss town for Hamilt on P a l ace, N . B . The Marqu i s of v remains in town. a Are The Marquis and Marchioness of Thotro r ',.i th e at Tunbridg e Wells, and intend remaining there t- 4 ` l Court goes to Brighton. hav e • b The Marqu is and IVlarehioness of Sr.. ll s bur i Y os , , arrived at th e i r seat, Hatfield 'douse, from it tou r of v 1 j t o The Marquis of Cl te I L arrive in town fro 7, 7.nricarde is hourly exP e h c as be e rot . ortumna Castle. His LordshiP. „ t bin .° ,' on a visit to I `.la cousin, Burton, Esq., at his anel e i t is el; vial east:o4 of Carrigholt, on the Lower Shannon. ~,,baA4 , l -i i ptcted the Noble Lord, his Lady, and suite, will e 7 tv 's s"-j -the Russian capital, without lost of time, in her Mai e t ing A Pique, now lying at Sheerness, as the season is g e j vaeced for a voyage up the Baltic. f i er The Marquis of Conyngham, Earl Onsla vi 'lvisif, Cranley, Lady Augu s t a C ran l ey , t h e H on. W. A5.0°1,4011'; General Cope and Mrs. Cope, J o h n Gurney, E. 4 q., an go- J. Lynch, Esq., &c., &c., arrived last wee k at th e e s Ephraim Hotel, Tonbridgc Wells. les ity His Excellency tho Russia;- Ambassa l°r o ill I town to-morrow for * Richmond, w i siere his Excellency i journ for a month. 1 it' His Excellency C',Lunt Seal Pilasch tl ineu irri a° their Royal Highnes ses the Duke and Duchess 0-f Can/ st nw ar last evening, at stew Palace. • oto ll yrg• irl.: `o`p encer is about to go to Leam lo 9 o ., J on visit to his Lordship' s venerable mother - i n ' aft ii ii • Ackland. any the The Earl and Count ess o f C a rlisle a ' a bout ei Elizabeth Howard will l eave C ast l e H owar d on ° r ys P t " - „e Ist of October for Gr osvenor - p l ace, an d i n a few ":,-ille• Bat to Frankfurt to me e t th e E ar l an d C ountess Gran' ll Je,, The Earl and Countess Browulow lut e° oelV t A r 4 their seat in Lincolnshire to-morrow morning f or days' s e' square. They will tit 0 ' then proceed to Paris on their way to the on - r, tic' probably remain in, towit ten , yrs We hear that they will pass the wi»ter at Niee•a t .je " 4 0' The Dowager Lady Coekerell left - " e lbeing oly ie corner yesterday, at . an early hour, her departu re i i er n tened by the accounts of the perilous situation os At e, -r et/ - law, the Viscount Deerhurst. f % is ce le ' 'llse recent anniversary of the birth-daY o th, oti A te ° Lewisham, eldest son of the Earl of Dart'n °ll ii estS - Soil li t brated with great rejoicings, on the Saudersve sat ~rO West Bromwich. Upwards of 500 operative;oigst 0 P to a bountiful repast, and the day was pas sed festivity. • lirn °l'. eil , i Ric co L. Lord Leveson has left the Duke 0 Castle, off seat, Gordon C-3'tle, N. 8., for Drummond, esby , t I ,o' the seat of Lord and La ' Ny . ll oil))* d'Er 'l e 6 Ay i ou, • _, , e , l i t y - . 1 ,,, uutnerott , .; lied c I I - 31inguish,.d partj of the Po i ' arri f li'e sent hsscinbled, , int the 111 , f l'c it iS 110 W Ds-serf:A very confic!entlY to - , Aire.' ° ld. , of Lady Gewgiana Gordon Lennox, cif-lest ( I ",:nriers: 9 C e a if' Duke and Duchess of Richmond, with Visc ount 0 10 01 ell son of the Earl and Countess of Jersey, w ill b toW n the cw,uing spring. I left 09 Adinirei Sir Geon4e Martin, 13art• 4i ) tea Saturday last on a tour. i Bristo l doP i , -• , .• et», • as a . s be The Lord Bishop of Giouecsxr ,-• c , be 11 ,, ar il j, to hey,. pi , ,•en great saisfaction by rho Tirac t r etir c° , l %ee e „, o ufholdin4 coetireaations in sevcrat of the riw a ' t 0 ,, an , .. t . vbv t4, (: f ills diocese. t ills' ractice has been of g r , c oallY °o9ii'g Ter i e n, • . e „. c , sic, ingly convenient to p op W. - 4 beign 1 0 0 „... "Ve aV "e' i eitonvlres ci the upporLuniti :.,i e ct. l4 ,, , to ol' . !-:o cflOrd?tl them, which they _it hv so _ . : ce etr ' b ibi, cur rural ‘- !?'ai , velige-.1 to -:all: a long cliatanee to '' • 1 D" .t • .111, l' - -iiv , ' , Brikiol Journal. i thee scat, near lira ::grove, VI cre • r= Lord 2tart('LllishehHao3n.jcliti.letill..nii.l4,,,L,::'.l.:::l-0.1a"-ict C