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1, in opposition to the Righ't Hon. Gentleman, ehjeof- o the Petitioners was not - decidedly - House, and condeinned the mode in ch . theHonse-. seemed to seek for insult. The Hon.'•Gentrenn- had accused him• - of express ing'hieerlf in strong 1 inguage with . respeCt to the ,tit of' dignity and justice in the House of Com 'its. To this accusation, 'he would Only reply strong as his expressions had been, language was deficient in terms of adequate strength - to exeress the sense which he entertained of the want of eignity in the House of Commons, as consider ing tiler coeduel 'with reference to themselves, and 'of want of justice as considering their conde6twith reference.to others. TO the day of his death, he .`would fight the battles of the People with the House of Commons, when the House of Commons were unjust, and he did not know how he could better acquit himself as a citizen. 'Whoever might lead the battles of the Hots. Gentleman opposite, of this he w,..s convinced, that even .had the House justice their side-, the Right Hon. Gentleman was in capable of beingthat leader ; how Much more inca pable-did he prove himself to he,'when 'he betrayed 'the HOnseinte steps whicis they must ultimately be compelled to retread. The Right Hon. Gentleman had originally ,deluded the present :House of Corn 'mons by the grossest bigotry. It was probable, that unle , s they ,were found sufficiently pliable; he would be obliged" to advise their termination by, a sudden dissolution. -For his part, he had no heSitation in distindly declaring it - was his opinion, that let the existence of the present Parliament terminate when it might, it would terminate in disgrace. Lord A. HAMILTON• explained. Captain PARKER declared, that while he had a seat in that House; he would never agree to the re ception of any Petition which directly or indireafy insulted the House. The present was of the latter desciiption. It was not a Petition, but an artful snare to entr,sp the House.' The Petitioners set up their opinion against the opinion of thellousei but 'it was the duty of_t be.H9use to she the Petitioners that they did not regard their Opiniop, and that they consider their own much better. The Petition con tained nothing less ,than an accusation of the House 'of, Commons of murder. He would vote for its rejection. - As he was on his legs he would ob serve, that he conceived it a very unfair thing to bring the 'Teller of the Exchequer on the carpet on every dishission,, whatever it Might be. He un derstood that that Right Hon. Gentleman would unquestionably have gained his e;ea()I1 for Cam bridgeshire had he chosen, to persevere, Mr. Alderman COMBE could not consent to post pone the decision of the House one moment upon the Petition before them. Adverting to the obser vation male by the Right Hen. the -Chancellor of the Exchequer with_r e spe& to the paucity of signa tures, he. explained that that was owing to a Re solotion of the Common Hall, by which the nuni ber of those who were. to sign the Petition was limited. Mr. Secretary RYDER, in .consequence of the statement Made by an Hon. Gentleman, that tOhim (Mr. II.) was-attributable the refusal of his Majesty to receive in person'the Petition of the Livery, o b- seried, that he had done no more than the Hon. Gentleman's own friends. •He had a&ed precisely in the" same way as his predecessors had done ever sine:, Lord Grentille held the situation which he had abet) the honour to fill. Mr. WHITBREAD did not know how the Right Hon. Gentleman's predecessors had aged, but he knew that the I,,ivery of London had a right to have access to his Majesty, and he knew, that by ad vising his Majesty not so to receive their Petition; the Right Hon. Gentleman had closed one door to the Petitions of the subje6f... The question of adjournment was then .put, and carried without a division. SIR FRANCIS BURDETT. The SPEAKER informed the House, that he had been desired by the Serjeant at Arms to apprise them that he had that day been served with the notice of a process at laW by Sir F. Burdett. On the motion of the CHANCELLdi •of the Ex- CHEQUER, the Serjeant was ordered to be called to the Bar, to state particulars ; but as one of the Mes sengers reported-- that - the Serjeant was not in at tendance, the fi,.rther consideration of the subject was for the time postponed. • SPAIN. On the tnoL- - ei of Mr. - CANNING, an humble t `Address was ordered to be presented to his Majesty,, praying that he would he graciously pleased to order that there be laid before•the House a variety of ad— ditional dispatches to and frorn,Mr. Frere and the Marquis Wellesley.—We understood • the Right Hon. Gentleman to intimate his,wish that his Hon. Friend (Mr. Sheridan, who was not present), would defer for a few days his motion, which stands for Monday, in order to give time for the produc tion of the above - mentioned. papers. MACAO. Mr. PRENDERGAST; in pursuance of his notice, ente.ed into a long description of the:Expedition sent under Admiral Drury to the Island of Macao, and of the consequent breach of good,understand ing bet ween the British there and the. Chinese. Go vernment. Affer a variety of observations on the expvliency of procuring every possible information 'with Tete& to a transaCtion, which he charac tet ised as highly disgraceful and impolitic, he moved, that there be laid before the House the following papers " Copies of all Dispatches, with their dates, that had been received by the Lords Commissioners of the Admiralty and the Hon._ tliCouo of Dire tors of the Etst India Company, relative to the late Ex rdition sent under the command of his Excellency itt-ar-Admiral Drury, to the Island of Macao, in the `Chinese Seas. ‘.‘ Copies of all Orders issued by the Lords Com ' - missioners of the Admiralty to his Excellency Rear-Admiral Drury, on the subject of the Reports Inade by htm relative to the issue Of that Expe dition. . " Copies of all Orders given by the Board of Controt.:l, and of all Orders sent to the Governor- General of India, or to the Conitpany's Supercargoes et, China, relative to the late Expeaitioit to Macao, to any occupation of. that Island by the troops of the East India Company." ' . S. DuND" As; at...eonsider2ble length, de- `fended the Executive Government, Lord Minto, and 'the Company' S Supercargoes, from any imputation consequent upon the transactions at Macao. He opposed the motion, as tending to no good purpose, .but, on the contrary, calculated to produce some injury. Mr. G. JOINSTONE supported the motion.—Any attempt to ii.volve this country in hostilities with China, in his opinion, aemauded the most serious investigation. Mr. WALLts objeCled to the produCtiOn of the Papers, which would . be attended with considerable inconvenience. Sir HOME POPHAM maintained that at least a part of th , t Papers moved for might be produced. His motive in rising wa *to do justice to Admiral Drury, by calling for the production of the Papers. • Mr. GRANT disapproved of the Expedition to Macao,: but was of opinion no good could arise (Or m the ptoduetion of the Papers The conduct of the Commander in. Chief had been, in his opinion, most praise-worthY: After a long reply. from Mr. PRENDERGAST, and a few words from Mr. A. THORNTON, the question .was put, when the Noes"seemed to predominate. The Gallery was then cleared for a division,' but the Tiouse did not .divide, .the question being negatived (as we.understand) without a division. %VEST INDIA DOCK COMPANY. On re-entering the Gallery, we found -Mr. BAR HAM In possession'. of the House,. calling their at- Mention to the circumstance of the West India Dock Company dividing a clear:lo per cent nn their 'capi tal, without thence making any dedwEtion• for the property tax. He intended at that time to submit a resolution to the , ftouse on the subject, whiclihe had it in contemplation to folloliv op by a Bill. The Honourable Gentleman then moved as a resole- tion - " That it the opinion of this House, that the %Vest India Dock Company, in dividing on their capital a clear ro per cent. profit, without previously deducting.a due propottpn for the property tax, exceed the extreme rate of interest al lowed by the . /161,0f the 39th of his preknt Majesty." 14Ii. FitatqaT did not approve of the resolution. The A6l of the 39th gaye the Company a-free profit of ten per cent. making no condition wiih respell to the tricoine Tax, which did not - then exist. Every • new tax on West India produce, made the risk of the dividend's not amounting to so greater than befdre.. There was no doubt but the full taxes were paid on the whole profits of the Com pany. If, in : the Income Tax, there had been a clause, making it imperative on the Company to de dua the Property Tax from the dividend of each Share-holder, he would ask if the West India Dock Company would not have a case to 'submit to the House claiming same amelioration. • They would have said, "We have saved the Public annually 400,0001. and paid 150,0001 to the Revenue of the Country, if then by wise management we still make such a dividend, ought we to be subjeded to the operation of the Aat ?" He concluded by mov ing, as an amendment, That the D e b a t e •should be, adjourned to that day six months. Mr. BARING thought the subjeet should be fol lowed; up either in the manner his Hon. Friend had proposed, orin some other which might appear more eligible to the House. The -opinion of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman opposite would doubtless be anxiously looked to by the House as to the pos sibility of setting the question to te,t in a court of law. If a better way of proceeding were pointed out by Gentlemen - on the other side of the House, he should bow fo their decision; but if they did not do so, he should vote for the resolution. Mr. MANNING admitted that the Company had a right to their to per cent. but -out of - that they were bound to pay the Property tax, as every other subject did, from whatever funds his income might arise. instead of this, they had paid the Property Tax out of the Reversionary Fund, which was in tended by the Act to lessen the rates on West India produce. - Upon the whole, it appeared.they had misconstrued the Act. If they were to depute some peison.to make a declaration of their being disposed to submit to the operation of the act, further pro ceedings 'would be unnecessary. He should support the motion. Mr. HUGHAN opposed the resolution. ' The_ ATTORNEY-GENERAL said, the Company had a right to 4tlch profits from the 'Public as would make up:a diVidend of ip per cent.; but, when, their profits exceeded that, the residue was to be applied'tothe public service. • Wishing well, as he did, to the Company, of which no one bad spoken too higely, he thought they should be called upon to declare 'what would be their condua . in future. If' they would not •submit, the pu14.7 had a remedy, though to apply - it might be troublesome.—From the construction be put upon the ad; lie thought the surplus, appropriated to the public ought not to be burthened with the property tax .on their profits. That . ought to be' paid out of the 10 per cent. they divided on the capital. He . concluded 'by express, ing his regret at finding himself unable in the pre sent instance to support the Company. "Mr. • BARHAM, in reply, stated his readiness to adopt that 'mode of proceeding most agreeable to the House.. - Mr. W. SMITH thought the advantagis, arising to the country from the Company were incidental, and that the income tax ought to be paid- on the itiper cent, they divided on their capital, - The SOLICITOR-GENEata.,spoke in praise of the Company, but concurred with the Attorney-General in his, construetion of the Act, as involving a ques tion of private right; he hoped the resolution would be but a preparatory step leading to a measure on which both Houses could give their ()Pinion and set the•questiOn at rest. Mr. J. SMITII descanted at length on the advan tages arising to the Public from the Company. He had understood they had a right to share to per cent. on their capital without any deduCtion for the Pro perty tax. Mr. JouNsom expressed, his hope that no pro ceedings might be adopted by any resolution of the House, but that the question should be tried in a Court of Law. 11/Ir. - BARHA* said, that if the Company should continue thus tO divide,. it would then be the duty of the House to order an information to be entered against them. ). The CHANCELLOR Of the' EXCHEQUER was of opinion, that it would not be inconvenient for the House to_ express_ its sense .by a . resolution. It would be extremely. difficult . to try the 'question in any Way, and at the• same time keep the arrears out of sight, which necessarily ethbraced the interests of the West India Merchants. • The question was then put, and the - amendment was negatived. The original question was carried without a division. DUKE OF BRUNSWICK. Mr. WHARTON brought up the Bill for enabling his Majesty to grant an annuity to the Duke of Bruliwiek. It was reacra first time, and ordered to be read the. second time to-morrow. He likewise brought in a Bill for granting addi tional annuities to discharge the Exchequer fund; and a Bill far - bringing the duties.on Hawkers and Pedlars under that of hackney-coachmen. They, were both lead a first time, and ordered fo ra se cond reading to-morrow. He then brought up Papers, relative and supple mentary to the Navy Estimates, pursuant to an Order of the House. They were ordered to lie on the table. Mr, CROKER, pursuant to Order, brought up copies of Dispatches between Lord Hawkesbury and Mr. Villiers.—Ordered to lie on the table. The House adjourned at Eleven_o!Clock. FREI,CH PAPERS. PARIS, Arum 20.—M. Detnoustiers, formerly our Minister at Dresden, and who was late:y said to have b, en nominated Plenipotentiary to the United States of AmeriCa, set off from hence on the 20th inst. for Moilaix, where be has been empowered by his Imperial Majesty to treat-with Mr. Macken zie for an exchange of prisoners. Mr. Mai - Aterizie is the cousin of an English writer whO has pub lished his travels, and whose work is highly es•- Jeetned. He was Secretary to the Government in India under Lord Wellesley. The Grand Duke of Wurtzburgh, the Prince of Swartzenburgh, Austrian Ambassador at Paris, and the Count de Metternich, accompany their Majes ties in their excursion. General IVlontbrun,-, who is to command the ca valry of Marshal Massena's army, sets off to-mor row for Bayonne. Marshal Macdonald has set off for Barcelona ; and is tO assume the command of the French army in Catalonia, in the rooin of Marshal Augereau, who is obliged to go to take the waters on account of Iris ill health. • MAX ' i.-L-The Moniteur makes the following re fleEtions'on the debates_ in the House o f Commons upon the Expedition to Antwerp : " We - resolved to publish the sequel of the dis cussions and the investigation relative to the Expe dition. to the Isle Of Waloheren, though the ques tion is already stale,, and no longer possesses any great interest. But this investigation is a monument of the ignorance of the English respecling those af fairs which most concern them. What ! no.plan of Antwerp to be had in London ? What ! are they ignorant of the situation of those dock-yards, from which twelve sail of the line have been alreaiy launched, and eighteen more are on the point of be :ing launched ? They know not that since July, 1803, when the Emperor visited Antwerp, six mil lions have been expended uPon the fortifications, which were previously considerable ; and that the left bank, and the Tate de Flaudre, were proteaed by fortifications, so as to maintain the communica tion with France, and covered by an inundation to the extent of 2000 toises. " The English truly lay out their money to very little purpose. Lord Chatham knew nothing of the fOrtifications of Antwerp, but from the masons who had worked there. Europe and France will see with astonishment the extent of the ignorance of the English. , They know not whether Cadsand be an island. They are ignorant that - the channel which separated Cadsand from the Continent has been dry these five-and-twenty years, and that Cad sand is no longer an island. They know not that the French squadrdn could place ►tself in safety either above or below the fortifications of Antwerp. They know not that forts Litlo and Liefenskoeck were protected on the land side by inundations, and secure from every attack, and on the side of the river by 80 pieces of ordnance, which from the right and left supported the line of the gun-boats and the booms in the passage. - " It would be curious to Contrast with this ranee the detailed informations which the Topogra phic Cabinet of France possesses with regard to the coasts of England, and what the English Were doing there in 1805. Observations on the number of bat• teriei, their strength, the number of the workmen, the quantities of troops, the posts from' which re sistance might be expeded, those that could not be defended, the profiles of the works, &C. were daily arriving at the Topographic Cabinet of France. " Atter this, it Will not excite astonishment, that the English knew not that tlierC were 12,000 troops at Boulogne, who became disposable from the instant that the expedition stumbled . Upon another point ; and that the National Guards alone were fully sta cient, as soon as this point was found not to be ,me naced; that the Senator General Rampon command- . ed, at St. Omer, a chassitur corps of- picked National Guards, regimented these three years, and consisting of 12,000 men ; that the General of Division Cham berlan commanded, at Louvaine, a camp of eight battalions of the line ; that the regiments of Con scripts, workmen at Antwerp, 'formed more than 13000 men under arms; that the fortresses in Flan ders contained the depots of 60 regiments, 15 of them being cavalry-; and finally that the King of Holland had 12,000 men under arms, there being only, beyond his territory, four regiments towatch Hanover. " It is 'surprising to find the English so little ac quainted with France as to suppose that an expedi tion landed upon her territory should compel her to weaken the army she l , ad at Vienna.. • " The result of the expedition to the Scheldt has proved, and all Europe, which is in constant corn- Inunication with France, knew before -hand, .that a debarkation of 40,000 English on our coasts would .not create any diversion, but only .occasion the for mation of new armies." Count Dorsenne, General of Division, and Corn mandant of Oat Fool Orenadiets of the Imperial Guard, sets oft this day for Burgos, where he will assume the chief command of the provinc(;s of 0 16 Castile, Arragon, and Bisc - ay. We may turin an opinion how anxious the Engrill are for peace, acid how lunch th-y .teel ii e want it, by the sudden and :extraordinary of their funds, upon the first intell„;ence of -au exchange Q t ‘ . prisoners. ' They never rose hi g h e reven in time 0 - peace. • It is affirmed, that their Majesties - w;11 return from Antwerp by Ghent, Burgos, B.dulogne, Die!)Pe' Havre,_and•Rouen, and arrive in Paris before the oth inst.• Marshal Mastena' pass?d throlgh Tours on 0 16 Gth ult. at eight in the morning, on his way r ° Spain. , VIENNA, APRIL report is in cir, ulrelif 4 r h on the authority of letters received by certain Glf - ; 6 . merchants, that there have been disturbances a t' Constantinople ; that-some bloody scenes have boll' occasioned by the English party, and that our Inter' nuncio, M. de Sturrner, was exposed to the great's dangers. We are in impatient expectation of a ll ' -theistic intelligence. BAYONNE, APRIL 23.—We learn that the sir''' e of Cadiz has commenced, and that the French ar" tillery already plays upon a part of the city. The English are in expectation of being ! el l ( speedily attacked in PUrtug uese E s t rema d ura: thousand Portuguese destined for _Sicily, have re— ceived counter-orders, and are still upon the Tagt l . s ; but,- as a compensatio n f or thi s di sappo i ntmenti tit remainder of the plate belonging to the convects, has been. shipped off for England. PARIS, MAY I.—lt is said that the city of O r ' intends offering her Majesty the Empress a toilette of the value of 60,000 francs. It is Supposed that 'their Majesties will extend (be lt tour to Breda and Bois-le-Duc,• where they will b e met by the King of Holland. His Majesty the hijug of Westph4ia aucoinpanies them. Their Majesties reached Cambray at three o'clocl4 on the usth. At eight they made theirs epeal:4 llc4e in the .balcony, amidst the shouts of the inhabitant.s who crowded the parade, and witnessed a proccs s l o( carefilled with you n g fe ma l es e l egant l y d r essed' According to an aircient usage, this procession at ways takes place in the town of Cambray when ( b e Sovereign pays it a visit, Their Majesties atte' wards gave audience to the- civil and military aut rides. A letter from Florence says, that (113 Bishops the Grand Duchy have ordered the Curates and Pas . tors of their dioceses to cultivate upon e‘ery occ.a" sion,.in their discourses, that respea and obediencd which subjeas owe to their sovereignos, ANTWERP, APRIL 28.—The arrival of their Ma' jesties is fixed for the 30th. The Duke of Iteggi° and General Bertrand, one of the Emperor's Aid es' de-camp, have arrived, and also , the equipage of tlt Prince of Wagram. . - A handsome cutter has been built here, in Whic il -his Majesty the Emperor it is said, go down 'Flushing. Four of the seven ships which were 1 ° 1 " up for the winter in the canal of ltuppel, are r eturn" lug opposite to this city, and also two others that Were stationed off They are all complete l y armed, and newly painted. Th e fleet of the Sehe l " is working up the river, on its way here. It will play its colours, and illuminate on the arrival ° their Majesties. • ONE HUNDRE D THoUSAN h D POUND S may „e s tamed by the P ossessor o f the first-drawn Pril . above 151. 'on the Bth o f Next Mouth, and 6, 25° e , can be gained for thi r ty- two sliiihigs and sixpen c a Thus, by the purch,ise of a - Lottery . Share, • firbe may secure to yourself an ab,olute fortune. present Lottery affords a most inviting opportunity and CARTER, No. 8, Charing-cross, is the be ' Office to make the experiinent at. SHIP _ Rank . Stock, 266} Navy 5 pe► Cent. tot iil Irish 5 per Cent. 4 per Cent. Ss 4 041 3 per'Cent. Red. 69 4i 3 +1 et Cent. Cons. 7o Bank E. Ann. t 8 9-16thsi LOU N Prin:ed by RICHARD HARRIS, or No. 4, M afflett-co 130 W-street; and PublOied by WILLIAM ARM! R 'SC RI PPS, South Molton.street, G roFvenor square, At the SUN-OFFICE, No. 112, Strand. where iidverlisemenis, Orders for the Paper, Letters for the - Bd/tor, &c. (post-paid), , mast b 4 addressed. CR AVILSIND, MAY 7. Sailed—the Pilgrim, Horn, for Dominica ; and the Cl ii.9s Packet, Tyrrell, for Hayti. BIRTHS. A feW days since, of twi n s, making eght daniders, a t hi house Bankside, Southwark,• the. Lady of Mr. Mowb r '''' Attorney. On tl,e 6th inst. at Plymouth Dock, the Lady of CaP tli°' Thomas %Volley, R. N. of a Son: ot On Monday morning, th e L a dy o f Mr . D eputy G o ss, Queenhithe, of a Son, and ninth child. At Edinburgh, Viscountess Gle ntwort h, daughter,in--1•. to the Earl of Limerick, of a Daughter. MARRIED, At St. Michael's, Gloucester, the Rev. fame's Fusseo,* Preacher`ashiong the Methodists, to Mi ss R e ddi ng, t h e li (P " ..? dress of the School of Industry in that City. tisAi In Dub:ha,. Charles P. Archer, Esq. son of T 110: wo . Archer, Esq. of Mount John, in the County o f Wi1:0 0 . /u Caroline Eliza, eld est d aug h te r of the late Peter M 0 l lp , ford, Esq. - On the 30 inst. at the' Ch urc h o f Upper Deal, ale toteii George Henry Teak Farbtace, Retior of Eythorne, County of K ent, tO Elizabeth Bower, ouly daughter of 1 3 ';', z Methurst Poynter, Esq. of Upper Deal-I-16,48e, in the 5 4 * -- County: $o On Wednesday last, Mr. fames tinter, of Mitrichestxr_, , ~ Sophia, youngest daughter of the late Marmaduke Tho"*" .. son, Esq. of Tottenham, Middlesex.' • Yesterday, at St. Pancras Church, Captain W. C. 1.0" 1-5 Bird, of the Bengal Army, to Miss Aldous, of Upper fil l " toy-street. - The same day, Waite( Young, Esq, of Great Ormond. street; to Louisa, third daughter of the late lulinson son, Esq. of Portni - an-square.• - ' Mist). On the zoth ult. ft Greenock, Lieutenant Rodrick V l3- dead, of His Majesty's ship Slinotaur. • On Saturday the zilth ult. at his house in Kentish town. Mr. James Robert llurchett, aged 44, ho had been tar years a Clerk. in the house or Messrs. Townley and Soils , Doelors Corn-rons. • On . Wednesday last, after a lingering illness Mr. Joseph White,. senior, of the Hush I nn„Staines. On Thursday last, the infant daughter of the Rev. follr l Gamble. On ::attirday last, at Pimlico, Mr. Savage, Gaiter.-maltel, to the Ariny. On the 6th inst. at Epsom, Henry, , the third Fon of JoM Scott Whiting, Esq. On Sunday morning, Mrs. Elizabeth Mossop, of Proxnehl* Wilts, widow of the late Rev. Henry Mosso'', Curate of-5 1 ' Andrew's., Holborn. - • At Queensferry, Scotland, i n the 91st y ear o f hi s age, r' Surgeon: • PRICE OP' TpCKS • YESTERDAY. India Stock, 187 India Boncis l 253. 21S. pr- „ r , Exchequer Bills, 6s. 235. Y (Minium, Imperial 3 per Cent. Cons. for 24th inst. 76 I 1 I; • ~~t