The Sun. — London, England, 1810-04-06 00:00:00

t ,^ -• 1 ,,. _ , . :, I - r.- e l 1 `: 11 _. Pe " . . . • . . , Y v./min:ea neel-censere,l. - lie was theri ordered i eyerilnlitiis tibi prepar&l 1 . 6 SAY Whether or Mot the . still it i-2; essential td Government ; in a word, tin ..' °l opear before! that House, but refused to attend. 1 paper hefOre t-betn' was libellous,' fie (Mr. Stephen) i . :" , Creau i l power can exist without a right of ptinisli- . • r'er this com Heated offence the HouS& sentenced : bade hoped ; 'be - would have formed his opinion by ' Moat Kir contempt. Tile case of Gale loees was - a' ht' n' • P e 0 te 'six memths ienprisOntint nt, fined him • 500 i that time (yesterday), but he had b&e ,, ii ,,,, pp0int.,.,!: : deSpichnle grouted on which-to pet iliiS eitiestiOre— "'rkc. exedied him the . 1 -louse, !aed yet :mere, in . Ifbe. w e re di s p o sed to thinle ihe pa e el• wa. a' libel s !-Cteon this setbjed it was argued that no one could. ,'lcilition to. the six months imprisonment; ordered i all elaborete-ergurnents-to which , he had called' .b e coin.iiiered guilty of conterript nniess committed 411111 to be kept in pri s on till he retracted the semi - - the'ettentien of the House were 'irrelevant -to the :in presence . of the House., . Could it be possible= ti t)/ ""ts he had avoxed before 'the Chatieellor of the que;ticin before him, : and did not . bear hitn out in that the authOtity of the ilouse of Coannons and it'tcheqtei.r and oth e r Memeers •ot that-House, and e ppOsing' the motion. ' He could not consistently 1 the.Hoese of. Lords is put in tie situation of that •of the Piivi c ounke l d e le gate d b y t h e H ouse behire .Op•pbse...it ' ivititout • maintaining that- that Hjuse ! the C6nstable at the ni g ht, w h o p ossesses ; the right ; 4 ' . close of the Session to re, ei e his retraction if hail •in no, ease a ' right to commit. The of conenitting a drunken man to cie •mitch,hOuse., .; 46 statior 1 , during the vac:Lion. ' Could that be e - aper of the , lioriortrable Baronet (Sir Fr-Theis becaust:ebe is tail obstructiore,! i.Mr. Justice Black= f'Orded a . ; a pie: K i ent ? Could they now imprison . Burdett) went' to say, that they had vielated the stone states as clear as :possibly', that the authority , e t " . Six More Its 'or fine as at that tithe ?. If that Constitution. of the Country, trampled on Magna of a Court. rests on its inquisitorial. power; and in :, - " l 'e Were re. 1)-! quoted as 'a precedee - te theY - Intett - Charta, and sobfertedthe Liberty et . the Subject.— what does this coesisr, but in the - right: of putiishirig ,''''t have quoted the -Ct)tichia or the House at those . 'He Meant :to infer that. they had violated:their. first for contettiel ? Odee.deprived of,tiits, its aothorit ye i r,'ll:itts vli ert th e y sentenced. an ,otrender •.againef grezit (idly, .Ziti - (1 , - Ostlrpt'd a tytannic;il power to itn'• is .lost am - 611;j the people ; without ire to-oppose the l ''''l' privil'e4eS toil' ; Hose irf•Correetli;fi for life,' 'risen a menTillegally withont a trial bi`jtiry, and influence of the Crown would: be inetleetual; it is . , 4 the P111 0 . 1 7 . 1e Thar inoaece ree lit heetioted e in' the- - 'they.l):,d trang,re',sed beyreid. the bounds which a eeglit WeriP:lt eattoot - be told : !vireti it - commenced, 1 , 4 l . l ieh the House pteSurned to indict 'tittnishinent - reason and . w hi c h j ust ic e ' s h ou ld prese t ow to them... but steals oil iinthernori,d usage: .- The -time would f l 'huown t o tit law; by ordeting two persons WHa iiel.iti encho enured to sobstaminte ttis lay a seit of . ' "'come, wibetrthe voice of the People, through :that ' e L4I ()Wended a ga inst their privileges, to be placed on • s34tOgisna, setting fottfethat no Court possesed the House, isvolVil "drive awe), the preieut 'Ministers. ; ihnrsei-with their' facei• turned towdids tee rail, power of imprisoning the subjeei . but a Court of .fenn the reins of power ; such -WaS,fiis devoted '. e -n d thu s ion om inions!y lee ihrough the town'. The Record,- and ' that I HO. Court Co , Id be a Court of e prayer; Jet this was an ebjeet unattainable;•ohless V s " of Hall Was the only iii-'ante before the Long _Record in I,ehieh d amages amo t intiegee above 4,05. !by prOte.:iitig th ir priViieLO. The Honourable n d rliament o f a p e r'son boine.proeeeded ag,aoist - for could not *be recovered. If hi; Hint. Friend Meant • .I:t'letieer refernAt to the 'preceileht-Of : 1774', 'in the - t i l ing in a ma nne r der o oat te y .t o the digni t y of that.. twine:mein' that priseosi'tiOni heouget to liave stated - case of Mr.' Woodiall,.who pUblished a IttieleagiduSt 51 'se. Precedents inl'arliatnent,"it setauld be re- his intention ; but l ie ec h o iv e d - the ,right of the', the then Speaker. i'vlr. Fox moved that he should , t/ lieciett, were nonle g al decisions, bet 'instance - of House to co:omit - in certain ...tries, tthough he deni - 41 i be, committed 'to , Ne - wgit e , when he and Mr.. . exercise o * f ant'''Or . q , He '. the:) spoke' of the that Mr. G. J o n es had merited to fte so ceounitted. ! H o r ne we.r. brought in custody to the .:Bar e _The ,:soleti ons .o f t,i;og e Re‘oitriuns,‘ however, were - Thittliing so, it would not enough that he should.' latter pleaded rot guilty ; tint li e dated_ not then tell - , ti,.._ be reg ar d:- . di, e . laws ; this he shewed in•va- : Move fur his discharg e , H e e u g ht to g Ol l - 4th w er, what he •has kisperird momewhere now: -When - v . S . i ligtances, ded COke's 0 1 ,iiiions on the sebjeet; and solicit the Crowe .to-effrel bon some retnune- ' the greatest ant lierity and experieece existed, in the • , ~,l i r ) 'tad Staten ta•iii pai iiillir,:uniry- .ineiv , lsse c. : Jnir..l :. ;ration fOr the e.... , lltine.neiit - lie itms endured. It he - Gine of Lord e.",ortit - , the rights of Pad:tame:it were e r, Yhe defie e d by Metreers oi Parliamtnt, as they count petetta 'e th e HodSe to that, still oaeeneS - tiun net,er 'doubted, ,:etch contumacy were left to these ef . ' e notjenown tkerfehtls.. ether noticing the case would remain behind —whether - the act of commit:' times. At that tirild the was not - one word heard i t t he King v. Floe e r, b e adverted.to tt , ,lt of .the Ling. hin t -w as wilfolly illegal, 'Pinion; and arbitrary? a b o ut the p r i v il eges o f- t h e House: ! It was the nibre -,' ) 4i a , 4 WLO 11.1 d, been proved guilty .of a iibel . on a . as stated '€? the paelphiet. • They- had treen told that extraor di nary, b ecluse an acritnonious discussion took de--beriof the otnt..•r - House (the Bishop of Ilan- the opiniOns- of all - th e grea t law authorities quoted place, and the most em in ent liaraalers of the coma e et '), on which occasion, the que,,tion whether or were not to, be heei - ed, r a n d his Hon. Friend oad try; Fox; Timrlow,'Loeghbor o ueb, &c. took part Ala I the'House Of Loras bad : a right to eeprisciti a :censured th e _ d eete i o e t o e L or d Keeyoe, tie 'Lead in the - debate; but it never Occorredto there that the 4 , 11 for a limited peritid or ini , ibse a fine %vas much not been able to cotled from the e'atupitiet the - House of Coiemorts did not possess the power to • ( 1 6 0 ' , t i a:ed. (Nt; . rent cal; au ) thority' .' (1 - 13rgri,r - e),. gfOHllds 911 which these ,k'''(tre impea.:ll l ed. •- .In the commit either N . Ir. Wodfall• ot - Mr. Horti-e. It Wz:S V l utect- tery much the ekiit e nce,ot • such a power. case Crosby, the Court had "scared I-e 1-fo.,Se to be left .ror the tirth.ls in ..1 hich we liVe to diTtee such Cen the case was ;brought: into the Court of • the best judges of their own privilege, i the light . - potter and prrtqlege, and he althoSt Cott9i!.lered n a ;• t t lh e's'llencit, there were but two Judges present. e thus titre on- the . Legein et ColisetutiOeffi Par-r: waste of :thee to reb el - te a n y other precedeet. The ! 1 1 6 1.4 IC.ety , ,n diseused'of it as being a-case ill '‘.o.;iCit . lieve4ii. ,. Was sufficient i.o,estabitett tee reght of the Resolutions of_ 171 ; '/I deubt co t e ( ' exiet,. and no .obhgations required; -- . flanse- to commit for a Breach of their.Pr+viieges, as the division of so extraordinary a nature which foi-:. after the Kentish Petition-- .. f tri l .4ld.-vidu .1 had opportunities of- maeing a: d . ,, , ... in tleecese of Mr. G. Jci,,es. - .The ;0 .-, ,rines - q . .,ored • lbwed-:- he •events . of that period cown to 17q4— N t 'e, bet we Were ;eft...in the dark, whether or, ein beealt of,l3,Jr.dea -ad . eeen unfairly reed. •rtley this a groun.l of argual ent , f r om Lk tildi it is itl . l-, 1 1e. 4t1 detenee was taken • into 'consideration: It had . !had ' insitiortely ende,ivoired toi• elite tile words o f pwsib!e to be d.slodged.• The ca6.e ot . AShiey and t bri t t-Salii , hat!! 'when factious ale°, wished over- e Guise on the neture of a Calm of Record a - meani Lig Weite was put 'an ' el id to' by. a dissolatiGn .of . ' the Government, tin?), attacked the Lords and direal; contr4ry to their erne. on , as he;' of ~cif Parliant- i rt ; and. this of a ' as the' necessity e a 4 ,.3rrintig.'' The power 01 - pnuishing for contempt others,.- lead r,een most in fivou- of allowing th le e 'supreme ietervening power , ' was evident, was - Nva ! Itct c:-nfiu'ed- to Parliament ; a similar • p ower ! Hon;,: the powers of ‘• Qouri or R , !cor s. d . .' .. le. sup- •a Wise . resolution. Cro,by 'was refused a I-labbis •boll!.ested 'in etery Court of Justice. ' There - was : port O; ".;;i,, assertion ne. I.,,artud several passages Corpus; and in • the . year. 1752, one. Murray : ti et t nng in the proceedings of the Lords uncenstittf- i i 3 :.:0',.t.,, to's-he:it th ,t that ii.yaie hid exercised tee was broultt before; the Hoitse,--•:WhO applied to t...,!'llirt so bringing the case in - the Court of King's : aut eer i e ; •Je --ii g's 13•mch for a H .ii,lti - T.Cor pus: Tnis was'. of a Cou.et of Jo.licautre. 'l' tic case 0f... it le; torti "ch. He never recoen,beted . any person being - .tall ;......is exteely . ,n p - )ini - ;- but iit bit ctlse..tbe ; retused by Justice -Wright, en ueright Ju.i.,- anti, tet(i ltitted for t.tpi-essibg an opinion` 'on the pro=' HOdse. proee..- , ded much ei: :her than it would- think ' of Otableinisbed .elexaet el e who ti-ciiireJ CA_ tin so t it ,_ , 'llgs of a C ou rt of Justice w he n past. On 1 of .preeeedingin the . preseut case., H:s Honourable t dOing lie felt perf e ctly e asy i t a ins conscienee, i,,as t( jt r grou n ds h e Objected to the • legality o f th e .. Friend ,tad ssio he:was , tot aware of any authority . tough, as he craieeived such - a refusal to be! copse . - ' te.4ltnitmene of Mr. Gale Jones. H e thought no iof a Court to punish Jibe's' on its Al- , :tibt!r , . Here., napt to the 'f.,elineS of t he firittse. 1-1,-qtio . -. , -..a t..e 1 1 4' would say their proceedings, when past, should i the lion. G:1 , ! ;. , -1:11an .p.tot, ti- iii icketon at some authority of tile Lord ciiiet Jpstice Hale, from tli t oie e .r be atumadverted upon. H e teas not of that 1 length,•to prove- the Haase had aei et nie,ally, He nvititi'; - crip't in the possesSion of Mr. liare s rave ,sage ' ! e i tois,andfeeli n g as he did, he should be inclined, was astonished that - one ;:i - r.skillteJ in law, so sure 244, ~,S ap. iit.) which teates that the power of teen.; tt " the qoestion beforti the House was dispciSedl . l nuous an advo e ate for libery, ,stkoirl. Ic::hy t ,-:' IAI- . In It le, ! :•l6!igsro the House by Itylg and onquestwo- \ 1 „, 1 , 4 4 wove for the discharge of Mr: G.- deees, , vilegeS. of Peerliameet, and lea Le t ILIA If: '-i'd shot- ~ able ty,;:.ige, hut it ha,i ni,t.. the p.e.ver of give% ,Ja- I ll ' e l ut aTetition from him, retraciiiig th.... cents- ided da, or go ne,,,ging to h . Coon 1 1 L'm '0 es - 1 4 . • mattes. ni.,.k f rih,r con - ,, , ,,,a..ed it, mt. Hui - - ti t `' he bad avowed. If it were always . the cus- i blish th e ir J im hority. If the Heti , e did not ~. ,di: ' grieve 1) or on t h e Hetory of '-Parliainereary r e : ter ParliaMent to keep a man in' . risen tilt he i ca c, ite privileges, . should the Jr - l i eet, eepoiiited.' Telic , eure. Tine Wit Poetorty he • Shollicl• giltjte, ' , tt e 7 l 4 ,(ted eh it lie might have ads anced on any par- iby the rown be the arbitere ? ,:ittopid the 64 7 't•ottLi ••• that of o.it WU6in he might say was _edu ''r sulaj -et, tie thought it ' dieati;n 7 of 'the Fivilege, of tile ..Eldt;se - of', C; cit in Pa.:•liaMent, and 'Of te;io,n he never could - . . -..... e0 e . h 4 4 , -----,• er A custom , mons be 'finally vested,' by a ne:ni al itensition, spe,k .settiou-i the feriling - of ardent veneration and Abioreh,ottouic-it in , the taret;ll than in the obseeNanee." - I in the House- of Lords ?. He was littepy -to say. • alie..„,in. l' i dr.i . Vox beide asked, how far the pOWt-21' ,' I:he fexee- : • o f [lie fir:Aw ! extended in committal.? he answered, : l iz e :kti wof no tiibunalin Europe that of Lite years i popular discontent- no longer existed.. , f or s steel oh a man s retracting his assertions be dition, and the motives which dire.6led it, .were -it c mkt. cament for contempt, or misdemeanor, t e PUtitshrre et as reme led, except, miSptritual i I now - ekpained and aPproved of'; for the sake of the u.luch amounted to contempt :'ln a letter which ol h y, - i u t 4 ts. ! He houghethe case of the witness COM- i permanent interests of the Constitution, and for ' eucceeded, he . says, this power extends - , ta the put lei "d last Se,ston very hard, to be confined for so i the authority of the House, no consideration should nisbment for writing , contumaciously;,thereforedie t ( j a polo., • In New e ate, becaus e he would' not I Preclude the necissey of pirreiring . persons .. who coniiders" not merely comm on but con- . e l I r , i'ss that be had prevaricated at the Bar. - Think-, treated it with contempt. 'He 'Was quite astonished . tunnei)us - w thing can he punished - as contempt. Ili fig' as h e did, that th e -Honourable Baronet_ (Sir ! at tile assertion -that the Hou 4 e was the parties, ' writing, the contumely of expreSsion may be done ti:,hcis Bu r dett)" was rig h t i n hi s ma i n proposition, accusers, and Judges in this case ;he d e ni e d 'th a t - away or: confirmed by the context ; and 1)e-desired • je r u gh on the whole be- did not a pp rol e 0 1 th e p a= i they were parties; their au . liority -as not. exer-7 the House would consider the whole, when it could l a l ' he could not, assent to th e m o ti on: If t h e i ci s ed f or their ewn, nor for Vie sake of any ,iudi- net bat he acknowledged, that much might be con- • ‘o_gliage of Sir Francis was not sufficiently -calm, viduar, bet for - the sake of those who sent 'them - veyed in the form of argument, which is a gross io . , . . 1 111 Q: ,Ict., the House permit btm to remind them of : there. Out of such - questions the-I - loose could never stilt on inspection. ,He then read the eass , ee from the. . i e.. t, :iti d . t theirs had ,been oe a former occasion, in ,a i get with credit, .aed. - they.oNlat to have been passed '. Argil:nem, p. 441.—:" Yet limited.and circumscrib e r t; : ( 'si' - s.vith the Lords. . The Hon. _Beronet then ' ever. - Tee Honourable e's.ri-eneer here related an . ed; Sze. it calls (Joon the accused to ili.uinate him- . ei th '. an Arlress from the Ceminons,to the Lords, 1 anectlete of a wan called Ii so Matra y, who hap- self" . Ths•aSerthon he would pdistiveky'detty,'not, ft 'ell set kiln, th,it it was. not to b e won d ere d at i• ,peed to engage i n a quarre l , ill which be was beat only in the presenecase,but in that of Mr.Horne,who eh a e r their . Lordships' success on the Consti tu ti on , in a most unm erc if u l manner; the, next day lie ap-. , was called on to defend himself, and an opportunity • i ti,. l ti.ey should advanc e t o atta c k the whOle•frarne peared with hiS cos closed from the conteseens he given to kin - in - ion Witnesses allundi. M. "to the 0-- i t lt, and endeavour (:), bring all eroperty into the. i bad received, .a cut on bis•llbse, and'several of his . !seieatioes On . the warrant,' he coleAdered. then a 4ae. , e i(t "ittele and bottomless gut ]b of their Lordships'. •r teeth . driven from the front. of his mouth. On : gross libel . , and tending to cut up -tlie 'very roots,Of to,picantre, which .would alike swallow np'the pre- i heieg met by a coentryroan, be.asked him hew lie the Constitutien. He begged the Heuee to attend : - i ti t ,° 4 tive Of the Crown,' anitth'e I : betties of the peo- i coUl , tstiff:er hiMSelf to be distigitred in such a neat - to- to tii3 'pas:age " D.Je; it not eviden ly appear, le i , Was tim e any thing in.the paper before them Per, and for which be was a disgrace to his country. '_that this piece -of nasealed paper, iigli,!(.l by the 11; 4 so siroitg as t let which was the result . of the --To which he-replied; that lie took the world . ais . y. ' Speaker, by which an untried subject has been - out- Ik t i ll deliberati o n of that House ? They ought- to i Such a •ptiociple,. it was scarce necessary for him to Jawed, bears no feature 'of legality." Thank -Goa, , t„ With due precaution. The committal of one , observe, was the worst Possible method of getting - said the Honourable Member, (addthssing himself ~ 4, , ,tt bad produce.% another offence similar - to that 1 clear ofe or accounting for a misfortune. As to !to the Speaker),Ne 'neyer - had a 'sal of office - , your : (4, 1 ; `vhich h e had been punishol. Theyknew not how 1 the question - before the Hetise, he would.certaMly it:ltiV and authority, Sir, is our stanip- e -Do e .s that ' I °l . ll Y - 41; 2 ;1n be produced by anoti:er colninittal, as 1 , vote for the letter's. bein,g a breach of prig ilege; but ' warrant want a .seal which`orders a writ Lont the 'i 'cal eueishments, lik e pueishments.f e r heresy, !if it were passed over, thefirst cour-e which.should . Great Seal, :Sir, this .House, by its• priti'eges, A,,, c1 , 1 - 1 111 - ly prOduced 'pew di,ciples. Hee - concluded ! • be taken, must be‘to compensite G . -alejooes for the tcre that .seal from the ':Chaneellor Shaftehury, Ving a f e w [groat ks en the vo'e recently given on 1 •lesess 4e . has sustained, and t.-ett to remove from and f‘ made it speak." ,On this e suhict he would .. '4, t i t iestion.asio the policy, &c. of the late Expe--i the House all. power of committal. ' speak , oet, and -say the greatest p_unisinnerit .was iii ' 1 eon the. merits of winch he thought the I. • Mr.. ADAM Congr4tUlatel the Hoese on its co ! Ming merit. d ; but at preseet et Was not the:best mode; • . ,. • -t ;) ,„, . ' l l4Cleand tile Country as'muCh at variance as-they c-oolly and deliberately to coniider this irnpot`tant tip Rpso4ition, he trusted, would not emend tun sltirre'en the . quetions respeding bir F..Burdett and .1 qtrestion. 'lf the opinions delivered by his Honour- ther than a reprimand. He alluded to the.case of . le t 6 ."Jeties. _ .. i_ able and Learned Friend - (Sit S. Romilly) were•pre-• . Major - Sentt,-where the House 'del pronoun Ced 44, 4 ,,,1'• SrEmisN complimented his Friend on the i mulgated; he would say there was an - end: of the,- the pOblication libellons, yet thought' proper to pass 1 11:'"ration and urbanity so consistent with his-1 authority of this Honse. ' Shouhr this H6USe, the only a- rep ritr,and. Mr. nit, on ; the occasion he af- , 1 , ,- - - . 4 :4 4 ' 1 r chttracler, whichhe'bad on the present oc- 1.. champien of the 1 berti es of the people; whiCh it ' luded to, took" a particular part in the - discussion, tie •. , : t i.diSplaved, but lornenied that he 4 3 (1- (while ! vindicated agaiest the assertions of Janie§ I. and and - desired tlie . House to take it up with great mo tk te Ki ng on a stibjeet - oe winch" he wished the House Charles:H.—should this Hou e; Which forced James '. deration..., A reprituand vvould come, with peculiar tlici -- 'Utianitnoii - s) a.fvt , rted to topicrA all others the ! Ile. ! t o aty.h ca t e ,te i throne—which has ever strugglt ;. weight , and dignity from the person who filled the ' tle! t likely 'to' cri, , i i te dis un i on , If u n f o rtunat e ly i agaiest the itite.)vations of the Crown; and la Which e chair, .and to the feelings of a Gentleman he co:l.i st , 4 „''tee. of ti - ,e 'House: . had :‘ o t o .ccorded with the i strunle it has always ib. eiiSuCcesS'el, though:COl - het , ceived" it to be the severest pueishment. The au lit, Intents of ti e people, it din not then. follow ! with tyrantip---hould, he said, '.he Howe now re- thor of the 'pamphlet had totally Mistakenehe case - f,, I Lliey were n o t to assert then- privi ryes.. It fee .-: sign its right ? SiOuld dernietrAtiC power, when of Sir . Ile Steele,. and with i n g en i ous fallacy had ti ff had t a lfp u in ti l e pubhQ&stimation„ it we. » not i probed. to the bottom, be now pass Al over i n s il ence ? • quoted every part, of my Lord Coke's Institutes ex, l'i A , 4 'alto retrieve its character by pers:Jadiog the i - He was astonished, that one of such perspicuity cept - the last,'which expressly treats on the nature of eff ete 'it s, . that hO t h! s id es , white investigating a great' e and applicationi as his Learned Friend shoeld state, Court s and of Parliament; and of th e l a tt er i t s h ou ld k is l i trii olia l pr i nc i p l e, had unjustly committed a e that the prese n t ques ti on d e p en d e d on t h e case of : be recollected, that it possesses not th e i n f er i or , b ut to te,..' to pri son . Hi s Hen. Friend had not int e r- Gale' Janes,--that tr! House was occupied iii the it s ( a i r a nd j ust p l ace in th e C onstitution. tt li v i 'l the tnernimity of that vote by his single dis- eonSideration of the past, and not the p:esent sub- Sir S. ROMILOY, in ' explanati on , s t a ted t h at b e Itt lt ' - ..t - iere Six S. lioitiiliy. sigoitied.he was not pre- Sect. Qui whit d o e s ' the pdtver of it Coot tof Judi . never entertain e d the•smallest doubt of the nature of h er e] .If he %tere . not present, feelingly alive as he eature rest,• but a) the inaeretiabee of its eliarac- the paper in questi on , nor o f the privileges of P a r= Ale 14 1. s to -the•inter e sts of others, bad' that corn - - ser ;" has - ft beer' forgotten, that this' i's One' of the ' li.ittie;it '.; his only doubt was that'ofthe House f o r 1e, 1 1 9 1 tree.ek bi te as being unjust,, the first time he pritnary Courts of Jiadicature ?• He then pr o ce e d- ! commieal, as a punishment for' discussion on its tt h s .. t. 1 ,1 gyred'' the Heeie atierwards he would have e d to read a-passage frost)Lord:CAe's 4th - Institute ' procee.ii n gs e • _ ! le ) ' e !'i I ctn.' she . r.ikch; ll ,,, : of Mr...Jones.' He 'there- wheXe it staks, that it is impussible - for a Cetert - to 1' Mr. WHITBREAD expressed in warm term s hi s ... Qt : j e :0: it: nil e d, the House . bad not unjustly en- .be high in the estimation of the people, or et main- i afFeetipri and veneration for the - illustrious Mr. iti; c nlt lon th e liberty of the sUeject wbhe assettl. , tam its illithori'y, w.l flout a cei bin power, t i Lis t Fox; bo,i•with the arguments adduced front his 1 th,,,i,. ,- tills , . ..,. "when lieentiott,s, is certainly ittiutioes ; but i opinion by one of his Learned Friancls (Mr. Adatn) ! ~, ,‘..• '.., .• ~ • , I 4 •;'. ~ .„ , ,- ~ . , , ~„ lip is rather - diSs'llisfied, while thesc of rirro.7irei-! in los Mind, i-Crnained• tirtite tinitr.!pairer.4, I'n, 30: , 1-- , tipienty PI thZ? Hotise declared a lways to . b... :` 1. - IL.' Breathe in the nostrils" of the Speaker; Whether kood Or bad., ;He admired the falia6v With WhiCh the Ho • nourable MembK?r avoid A - discanting on the moire' of the priVilege of the- Ffot.i44--",v heri •t he question I came to thatbe , stopt: - -- W,..41 reiljtNc.: tq his ip-tation_ I frOrn .I.Ylr. Flargrave, he - wo-,,id ventore t , 1'14--!rt.tiat • nnonecalled more in quest Flu the Punic:l:Ps Of the Horse; while Me . . 7 Fos's 4. - c id:lielir s were the : - e,, , er s e. 1 The Hon. Gentleirt4t 4 ; l' , --..-:-' -;:iverAi 0 the opinion • I of Mr. Fox tiir6::, poink .oftlis n.rt..:re, and tic , ;.:iared, i' that tnuch as he idolized that : . i•e.rr r»an, :inA it' Wa4 1 i . - - not possi ble tor ney 't) In t , J:113:;z : - him rodre i - yet he cOuli.l not . a,::(11i . .,:4.ce in 15. t ,. s,. : , 6 , :r1. _nis dery.....fred i by_Mr. Vox - wih,ql -'ii. ..•.c ,of this d.:2.,c . iprialt c., ere • ...,, , formerly under diic•Asiroo in that House., ' _lndeed they were ittf bred in th)• y fr',.r a of that most (.1 , 4-- !• tingashed 6:...1te,t0an, v:!iyn Tlis ju, , lgtnent w,is not yet ripe; and' Wain- he ,:oke bona the T.reaury Bench.' ' But 'on r...0m.: t ir , ,11 ; ,:,,,d / s:,i' lit : , , fi c 1,,,d, 1;er;• laps, a . higheraiithc.l%lv, if higher authuri.:,- them could . be--;le rtant - 2,1,. Bork. 1i0 , ,V di i 'Mr. .Burke speak' of thry • 1-lqu,', of ( ."2cri'rn•riti in tl'at. Most extellent of nil phu t ;1 p , ;'' -, 1!•2!.-i, "Tirou:..;!:to•. On • the pi-ec-ni .I.2iF-: , riterfls ?'" Did 'fie ndt ti's- re contend, that' the Hous'e. or COCIIIT3'onS bttg!it to be a controu: :I tic; no , a c :urn II 911 tde ro pie ?' .Indeed Geiitletnen had o::(,-tt-- lout •tz, thu.. whore tenor o.{ the p:l;;aite be allurhd to, n:,l they would find tiw.t. t' - ,:c . i:171 : :1:.3:3: ; :: of Mr. Burl : - i- , _:s- .. pecting the rorHuct p-rd ihe , ::,6r.reer of th, 1-i ~.i,ce, wat. 111 etrery respect inupo. tnurts"on'; I hi r ) tn.r at' Si. ,. 1 1 '.1311. , d- , t in tf :,:- r , nbl.cation now ittider.di,f. A.- siun. Who , --,ust no:..how; ..ish r hat the •pub!icat ion • had never been noticed by the HonSe ? and if it was , not to be no iced, surely It was not to be r,preilf2ll.!ed. . 'The olast.lir',ations I , tin . ; effec-t winch had I:e'en of fered by 'an Hon. and-Learned Gvnt..(ihe MaSter of the Rolls) he could not 's. ,- ift:ic.irtiv commend Ind .. acirnit'e. Ti:;; , :it - L , ..,rned ( - -;. , ntlera t i a..:tvrsed tn.: g; ant irlL:3 of fur:her trine to corisid r a (I , ,l , 2'StiOu 111 its l:a -(Ore SO ir)ticate; anti by . proctiv: . . - g that h g ,:rent tittle:for the HOuse ~ he .-escut-d it trout the tli.gr•i:ce of a basty r rash,.,:ici inlempt.ratede-iSi9n. His par- ". tielqy to the pi alrii,its of his I.)ll.mint .Lea red _ Fri-rad, r'ilr . . - Al.arn, Was grtar on all . or,c !sinus, 01;1 1 , •:.. -Ins'. (o.:' ,S tiint of' ti)...! prese A t 0,:c;011:,n he! ‘'..er , i not convinCed by ,lri:i argurn tits. The case2of Mr. Gala Jones haj been coin r•art.d to itt ,t of -Sir Franck • B l!dety.--•-ani it was argac I, that ha\ ing pu..; , :atd the One., it was b.... 1,. right to ilat,',l.. the orl,er. He nei;her admitted the comp.lnson nor, the art. :r- . in.! - It • deduced - froth' 'it. A well . might it be ' cont-nded, -. that .hccause the Hot se had eon rutted one ail of -Thia.:4%.,rice,' therefore it ou: ; irt to ; coaLoit : , :otlif-r.--, Lie- Was- not present when the House carve to -duet 'resolution, 0 'd it "it. fiaLl, - 1 - re certainly would: hav e V ote d against it. His opinion, under the present err, - .4 - roances of he ease was, l':,a‘ the question '.no .v betoi e tn, , rases stinuid be ~ijourned 4,.,' 'a very. di :tam day, and that sir. Jones should be Mime •i-oely .released.. Ibis be "conc.ivects with the Mess e. of tne Bolls, to . 0 toe best in , de- of getting rid ot the q,;sti..n. As to the : pobric ition rtselt, he - could-5c o-,.t.1y bi ing bill) , :v 1 iin think re at it was a libel. - It was the.usud - , tyie And • manner ot-liie wort hy . Bart.; railer extravagant, And bordering on- the su;Trlative degree, arahmore iniq- rlous often to his own interest and cause than to any other. , In judging of it, the H(..),,se:st-, 04 1 ‘ 1 l et its pas sion subside, and consult only. its .reason-and j.ie l k , ment. in that view he should again repeat the Wrsta that the discussion. be adjourned to sortie %cry distant • day. . ; • Mr: STEPHEN and Mr. WIJITBLIVAD explained. Mr. CANNING thought that if there wa a fides- tion which should be discussed without animosity, the present .was a•quzstion of "that natur,e, and itow that it had been brought before the Mime, it waS' impossible .not to come so seine decision upon it. He had .given it a. most mature 'considera- ti n ; he, had paid the most diligent af:ention to the opinions that had been. delivered up .n it; and if any , Jloobts: yet Temain-cd on Ips mind• respecting A. they Were entirely removed by the climr and convincing, exposition *hid) .had been ,made of it- by. art :Ho - mutable and Learned Gent trtitr .(Mr,: whose Spet;ch 'he must cowi 'er as a rna:ite.-piece of constitutienalreasoning. With that Learned Gentleman he also perfealy agreed in gra interc..reation be had - given of the opinions of •which were placed in a light he did - giot., think th m Atuicemibie ,of it by. the 'Hon. gentle man -who 5. - p -, k::! k:St . (Me. Whit bread); There wa s no si:l4-uie bl - iween. the prese!.t'case and th;:t Mr. Reeve;. The . Fiouse then proceeded • by ,ad thes4., and sac wholof Mr::Reeves's guilt consisted a uu t !ph it ; ard'•for a metaphor Was he ptiool - He the case of - Mr. Jones and of Sir F. Burdett might be carefully :kept distin& The two cusps w re very different, and should be rea soned upon. trorn very different grounds. Of Sir F. Burdett, now that be was absent, he must fit justice say that. he was a' man of very extra ordinary .talents. That he seemed deeply to b.: im pre sed with the opinions he a'Jopted, and sincerely to ft-!el. for the interests of the country. wished' his abilities had alWays had alway been properly exerted: Often,. when hi he :rd s:rock across .his Tails cum . sis utinarn nostcr esses.— Some Gt.tritlemen seemed . anXiouson this oconion to trace the `.pedigree of the - Constitution, and to go . back to the history . of i±s birth. They anxiau-ly in quired whether-at first the House • enjoyed and exercised all the power and - the - privileges which it now exercises., fie would - nits say that it-did ; but still he could con Sider, *what addititriA it had mJdo to either, as justifiable and glorions usurpations ; usurpations which it made, not for itself,* but for the good of the people: These privileges - . • ti: ere in its own keeping, and they shonld be watch ed over with peculiar jealousy. He wished he had not been forced, t o decide the question ; bet if the priVileges of the House were to be called into - doubt, he must take care to assert' them. In so do ing, 'ever;be misted the House would manifest its justice and impartiality, and look 'with an equal eye on the hilt and the i tw. That the pubhcation now under consideration w:-!s a libel he: had no hesi tation to declare, and as . such it should pot be al loWed to pass Upnotieed and Uncensored. Mr: PONStibiBY was no - party to the commitment of• Mr. Jones, and bed he been in 'the liouse. he • should have opposed, it.. He aid net rise, however, to impugn the power and the privileges of that House; on the ccinfrary he was ready to,assert and maintain \ \O