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IMPERIAL PARLIA.MEN'i.' HOUSE OF PEERS. 'FRIDA*, MAACII lg. The Cotton Duty, and The Cotton Prohibition Bills, Were' brought up from the Commons. On the Motion that the Cotton ; Exportation Pru lnbitioo Bill be read . a first time, 1.01. - (1 LA VD E renewed his _arguments alitlinst the Orders in Council, tea far ag they Went' to , permit .an intercourse between 'America and • weden e and' perhaps. between America and Sar thnia = which intercourse mast .facilittite the intro- . .ductiteil of Colonial- produce of the enemy from ,t he3ee into the Continent. finis measure must tend Insides considerably, to lOwer the price of. cotton', and thereby prove. More detrimental to 4ttnerica, and mannish her v‘ith a. fresh objet} 9f I tilcontent; and_an additional provocation to war.. .. Lord , BATLIU4ST observed,. that he hats re . paatediy answered tint objetlions , o( the . Noble Lord pponthese . points; andanust nowt:Omen'. himself with tuiling him, that thesa.articks might indeed be iin p4,}rted hitt) Sweden,%ut that it dil follow they might be also imported into Sardinia; fay this dif. Yip rence must he - found between the two - countries . , , Sardinia was a ncutral Plower---Sweden an Ally,.ot his Majesty. . . Lord Ida) DE R 1)41,i4. would not now press the sub jea farther„ , but would take another OCCaSIOII ' lO revert to it. • , . • ~, • DAMISI-t- qIIPS. • Lord SiDMOUTHbrOught forward the motions of which he badgiven notice, respecting the Danish ships captured or detaini3d by our cruizers previous to any declaration of war. He not foresee there would be any objeCtiOn to the- produdion of the Ac counts he 'sherd(' move fOr, ; he only looked to thorn as the grounds. itin which ; to build a future and at penal motion, .'espeding these proceedings ; hitt • on, :What day .he should bring on that m o ti on , h e was Pot as yet. enabled to settle. With regard to the value of these captures, he should now decline mak ing any motion, because he had understood on. a for mer occasion that the Noble Secretary of State tHawkesbury) intended to lay, suet) account before he House; he should, therefore, waif, for the state tnent of that / Noble,. Lord, before he instituted any inquiry into that subject. • The Noble ViScount con cluded with making four distinct motions, the . object of which was, to ascertain the number of Ships arid VesSels belonging to Denmark, which were found and detained in the I BCo t ith .Ports,' previous to the issue at any'Order in Council for their . ,capture. or detainment. e) si ; arsfthe Ships captured and brcluglit in- parillaNE to that, Order; .and that Declaration of. Wag" ; 11)6) of the number, ofDanish Ships - that had been condemned and Confiscated, in .comet/hence of the decisions'ellbe Courts of ! Adiniralty and:of 'Ap peal ;. and of the number of 'Ships vviiosecase 'was pow pending bqcorad.hose Courts. Lard a/14'04K alluded to-assertions made,pn a neeasion by the Noble, Viscount, respeCthig 1 . 1 ? 0 value of those captures,. which amoutited, he sand, rt, more I han two millions.- He also .alluded he pro..ni..t. made on thst.ocoasiou by the Noble Vlseouut, that be.would institute. an iinpiry into the. rktanner large a , sum had been disposed ke trusted th e Noble Viscount would not low sightor thew objects; it wits -of the utmost,- MI- Psrtatico to iL;Ceriiiii them. :.Lord SIDNOUTII said, 'that wh+,ll, on a former oceasion, he had st.tied,'llint the value of tikile cap tures amounted to neatly two milliOni,he s .liad stated it to, be suit.:h troth reVirt only. 'He had, however,: since,made further inquirito, and' 'die re,lttlC tended, in a Olt . nicasut:, to c6titirtn that report. , 110 had' 'rot Olinquished the matter, but delayed • 'making any pmpositifiri with reglard tolt, in the expeClatip, ;;•• i,-• Lad t./efote said, that the Noble Secretary , wo44l- t , l. make a stafenieht "off that 7tO "14e that 4Litetpoot ;should he before ►;:, diet lie 41444'410 hi* duty to 0, ,k,l;- h i , , upoo the Matter., ' Lorli 11.1IPAE . 4.41idir ' certainly did intend I:Ly siich it statement bcrore the linnAe ; h.it much Wte-4 ekperienco its ptekriniit. fle should' •itow' deliver no opinion with tete& to the:yaluu of the captures ; he rather•believed, however, that the amount at which it. Was rated would be futintt to be exaggerated. As to' the•motions of the Mitre \lts,. coki t, be should not objet to the substance of therri; sand there wa.v . ery: little evau !that he widiedlii be Changed in tho form,- "Ille'Se rilterationg , hi.vihett wog- ' Bested in the fermi and wordingefthe , mot km, which were acquiesced-in by Lord Sidinonth,--after which j the motions were agreed. to by the HOttiie. • ! Tut.: Amity. • •, • 'The Order-of the Day was then movetk t ; and -the Hnnse resolved itself into a Contmittee•on the Alu 'tray On the c lad a being read for. allowing Men to be eiinsret.,,ot , . Drake of GLOU(:BSTIM nase, - and re stated' the o.)inion he had delivered 01 fpnylk9majon, the merits of the system-of OrVice. w,is a 3yitegig &most universally appioVetk.not only Cy' th,i ablest (.:,morals of•ftivign c h it ions, but by nzest eNoeritmced military nten of thiwaituntyi, It wits a system that v c grAduidly irnprOfpg,, and'. premised:the fairc.:st, restdis;, He,was sorry that ~uisit a moment as the present should he seized to ii,o , itupt its progress ; aild so convinced Was be of the ini:ichicti that tirthie from that inCer . roptioti, that he must beg leave to propose, as an Amendment, that , the *olds granting the power of enlistiog'foi rat: (JUL ofthe • 491ii . .110111,NGhON was:a friend to the system of red 'sorvice ; but . v arious yetwons concurred .to induce I)iru to Oncr,r in the clause,. hecansajt must obi iods''.'t hat a' Verydifferent sy,Ste *.44:pegesti. "respeet to our coloniid and our' ,kiottle de face . lc the Bents" but duly considered. the extent and distance of: our .rottiatnents, and the immenke zt ,i)e.tice incurred by .sencting, ont [nen tbinclia for tr(atnple, they ; must th:jt an enlittnent. fe)t.4vvert )eArS wooid by nio twantranswer the object r , gead to Inc Coloilies. 41 this re.v . pf.l: Oreat 13 .. .tic:n0 was very &dere . ..l3lly situated aby other .iirdry F.',nrope, it,6 and J)..-vaNLEY supported the plan for .1"! I,ltco. herviee, and, corniihine4 that the, present in in the kiill only with tin insidious intentwu to pi - Weill - title it. Loci 8UC.; : 1aNG21.4.1/SEIRE was convinced r. ' fit: 4 n e:4 - peLlence a that mixture of the-two synerns, limited and unlimited 2ervice, was btkit CakUlatea •'• the viii citetiwaitoceti of the &deuce of dip empire. Desertion. was not .to 1!;! imputed to the one t-more than to the-other it.arose 'from wholly .I:tilleonneeted ,with:eitheriand was getter:illy producad:Oktkiciliatdshipi:Of drillitar,:and'for, When - tijey enlisted, 'put habits ef• sOtue melt were . not srviiarecl; - • Lord GROSVENOR was lorid. in 'the ptai€ea of. ,t he.lintited system- 7 4 alone coulttgain us the heats as'Avell as •the arms of. soldiersy and-without-their hearts,Jheir arms ,would be of litt:eavail .io the moment of difficulty and daipifir'inwitiali tie Conn.: try might perhaps be soon etposed., there fore condemn any. attempt odar,i4io or Subvert that system.. • - , ) I . LordJ E4VILL E took . a•retto . spealvevieW of the state of the Army, - puct_of thtivariii'imans which hati' at clitferont times beendcwised,,for.keruitiog if. fie disliked the frequent interference: of the Lcgislature. in what regarded establt:thineot.,_ in :his 6Phllona was beat entrusted to the care and .ma 11110111ra of the .Chief Executive Magistrate; *rid a • was fonndof late to improve and tiourishninier'the auspices of the illustrions Person4.e . to whpse I , P.t! ri,!igp had contitled it.' tite.leount) . Y-netier lo.d at Anny,;•so ,nunterous and well, appointed?: as that it had to ,boast ;it the present moment and liow-;was , that I.‘riny Not• by, any o n e plan or 'exertion, not- by . . Metaphysical recruiting, and . a philosophical : investigation '.of . the rnortil tit'Opqnsities and liabits'of men, : but by a. combination' of various plane and exertions, adapted to 4c.liat t ureand elnploy,metits of men as they .were to'be found, :and to the. varying situation.and exi gencies of the country, Ot all :the' plans .to which the present flourishing state'of tha'Arrny might' be ascribed,: the Additional Fore' Bill enlisting, flub Ale 'Supplementary the ,Line; he thinceiVed to hafe been the most eificabions. But as no orie.system.or.exertien had raised our military force to its „ presentamotint and perfeLtion;.io no One plan or exertion Would be sufficient' to maintain it in that 'desirable state. 'A variety of systems and exertions tuuStoconspire tta accomplish thisixished-for obje4. : He wad therefore .tbrblentlitig-,arid uniting the two systems, respecting the merits of wind) Noble Lords seemed to be. so much divided Lvt the two sys tents go hand in - hand; let them mutually aid each other. and thus only, 'could a mili tary foie(' be raised and maintained, that 'wottid answeethe different calls of: our colonial. and home dt.feitee. TheSe were the two points to wh h nch the attention ,of dig House should chiefly be direct-, eel, •tinder. the present,circunistandefi 'of the . Em pire, arictthe relative .biruioioll eff:atirr iit 4 ti;s. It i is unjustly that 'MiniUter's sign -secretly to.ulidermine ttie syste'u of their pre- , decesssors: ••• He, for one, loOdly such.ari intention : for - he was :ready at .all - truArentsop l m.ly, 1?9141y to ,Censtii* and -to lucre.- out thodes• to which it must: 64, liatde. The Noble, Viscount : tlien . eincred into a ,minute examination of the by item of limited'Oervice, and ticliculed;' in :a' - vein at the hapkitst;lintnour,. the, tlieVriei and the reasonings upon. whie4ik wit; ,s o , whitxtsically bunt. It V/113 said wotilci intreduca a bettor detieription of • into the`iirmy,- 7 :-'-that:it Would induce rL:spearible fanners to prepare one of their sous 'to i 3 a solder; in short, that it would :..rnakethe.inilltaty'Sertrice a traile. The trade of a soldier there 'never was, ittid.neVer'•WioUrif be such a trade in this sense at' it ! What was-rnear.r byAket.: ter soo of men ?, Was it ti n t they' Were* taller or shorter, breader, or thinner ?; This t tight be, ititelti« gible, l,ut. it WPIS not the . The 11-It4'll that bad hitherto . - formed the British Armies :w cat!' Meti . of stunt hearts:slid. habitS ; :Inen of spirit, and CouraBe;' Tovers of bold enterprise. These were the 'matericils .of ieb• an army must . be ciiinposeti giVe llittt such , men, - thoitgli not ,of the betker.description the worse teen ;Were thcr tlttest.,for a solcherit; -keep the better ertionie.: growl& he must Vote for Ow arose as itiroVe's'fooil. • '‘ Lard 54 1 41 , 104'.11-laistr.er:tereti into-,,a47eiroapec tiveVit;w of the plan.- tfat bad b4en adopted'wii theSe fiitven years b;r4 for 'reeruitlni arid Mei:easing the Heletamitred • the Comparative merits of the 00'6f 'the Army of Reserve and at tidbit Vera! Lilt ; aod ciiittended that4 4 tft . 9 . for} ctr, no less a: tette Wati , liii3edAhati'37,g6o 641 ' . while the latter did not ;produce more He' could nut but disapprove of frequent changes in the military ,kystern of the coOnity,; that which was eitablMied a year and a halt age') wa,iliteilded . with if l / 4 videta s„uccess, and that 61.1CCeSS, mould gradually It was therefora.unwise, iii his mind, to unsettle such; a plan, under' the present circutn stane'es of the country. ° I.4ords Montt and HoLL.kistirendeavOuitif tOshew, that the two systetris must. countaratt eticit Other, and argued to praVe how tar, .preterahle„ wa e t tharfor litnited..,to .the.:,plan for 'nutintitcto' 'service. The' experience; ofetkry day confirmed' the hopes PlidY bud entertained of ,success, :011C1 therefore' they Must deprecatea , ny..clausks that might fruStrate the, ativantages by which it. bad, .been so signally at . terided. • ' • Lord WpsTmottr.AND saw nc, reason why the F10u4 4 ,1 should Lie intluenctid by the ol.irtiOtts 'nen w tit) It bettayed such a want of jiraaidal know ; ledge in military affairs. , Nothing, in. hiii.oPinion, was, tno;'e t.rndO and undigested ,than the Military: systwn in the praise of Which they were so profuse. , 'l he 1)0 ke of (;Louotivritt *shortly replied, after which the- 9tiestidn wag, 'put on the: AniOildnattnt,, which was negatived 'without a ,division, and' original clause watt ordered to stand part. Of au, Bill, .‘ some conversation ensued respOcting :he'day on which the Bill 'should he read t hird . Intik When it wa determined the third reading shi..)uld , ile tut utor :A.djourned at half past Eleven. NOUSE P2' . COMMONS. FRIDAY, AIARCit, 'lB. NIALI)EN. , . _ Mr. TAYLott,. Vnairrnan of the. Maiden Com mittee, reperted that the Sittitig Mem4er was (tidy ekaed, and ,that the Petition was not trivoiii , v, i.,. , vexatious. On the:Motion of Sir C. POLE, an Awn:llw vas ordered to laid beftirel4he Hotise of DotehYrO, .perty detained and condeptted as broits to Ma je.sty, froirt November 1803 to NoVettbe'r 1 4 804; its tikoislting the gioss artionnt front the spue.itio;4lc r tent 'Lot* tic. , Tlitilf,%iiietper Bills Bill *as read . a and .ordgrd to .bc vonarn . itted , on Monday: , : - ." . • . C)rdcr d, that . on its rising=the ilptaw. a d_ journ to Monday, . . . . A Ferson fr om the Past-Office - presented an Ae • ccul.r of thy. 6-urns that, had beau - paid for,,Govetn men: Expresses .to Ireland by way of Holkhealt. the.,motion'of Mr. l'oxsokuly this Account was ordered. to he'printed. • The Annual Qualificatiorr'lndertnity Biil messed through a Committee, the report of I,vltiQn_wat-or .dered to be received on Monday. itil)EmistlTY BILL. ; ' .211r.14t/S1 ISSON rose, in pursuance of hisno tice; to inure that 'the Copy of thee Orders in Coun cil which- he, had „presented on the„.ibth Mgt. should be referted to 4 , ; Conunitte.e of the whole House, f 4, the 'purpose of asking leave in that c...:ommittee4o bring in tr , 'Bill ‘to make those Ordcrkvalid, and lo indernuify certain per.ions' for remitting forfeitures, &c. Under the peculiar and difficult eircuinstaticeir in whith . the British. Merchants . in *Portugiil had lately been' involved, .it became the - indivensible duty of his .Majesty's ,Min'iSters to takeNaveiSVpOs sibte step to facilitate the removal of.e their pro petty ni fro':Portugal,' and the receptian. ; f it IK,, thia , . i Country. The Lordti- of 't he Treasury tail tlierefore ; isstied orders to the plitom-bOuse, 14 . iiiifinii .the entry into British ports of the produce of Portugal in vessels of every country,. in as - _tuirestrained a rnaniief as 'if 'those vess e ls were British. ,Fur 7 ther, in Consequence' of thie . declaration 'of his Majesty, placing the enentyl ports. in _a state of blockade, numbers of neutraVvesseis arrived in this . cothitry, some had cargoes on. board which the law ilia, not allow to be entered. '..lt 'had been thought,.eXpLdient by his .11.1ajesty's Government' tc.) permit the landing of these cargoes, and to allow of theirbeiriz_vAre' housed Tail an opportunity °fret - 7 . ed fur. their -exportation. Thesetwere'all- aels wilicb required the sanction or Parliament. In' the--Bill whiCh he meant to propose there were only two pro.. • visions applicable 'to the 'Orders; but ' it was in.-, tended to introdnepluto it. otherprovisions.-One grc4ing . out of the orders of blockade, liar it would be hard -.to subject vessels not . itnendi .to come to 'this country to the .operation of. tie' laws .of. forfeiture, 'the only other . provisto - Which it , n was intended to introduce, ..w.414 -to , i r iablOri . dd. Privy Council, to grant licences' to•petntitirktoni7 ,- ; diercial intercourse 'from certain countr4s, Whence the, British Flag was t:xeluded, in,any-vasels what• 6 . er, . It was Sven known .that:Anailiy .. of the . Powers of the Continent wer,eng4ked its war with this Country, not w,th any hostile mindtowards us, but cutopeiled Of the. overwheirnincintluence of. ':.,Friittea. A's ,the .law now,Stioed it carupetent to his Majesty to suspend his belligerent rights, and• to pertnit.the importation of goods under the flag of the: country in. whose • favour the iipSpeitsioh - was. made , he , doubte . d . whether' his IVltijesty.iivas. tr!inpOWered to allows }tbelligerent:flag , - - to:carry y ou 44 intercourse with any other country - to-:4witia such 'frog did not belong. It) the peculiar ditalhislin i ces of the present commercial war, it' *dal be wise 'and ii(tvantogeons to.give to ,the Crown this.po.wer certain limitations. -He would -first move, therefore, to refer the copy of the Orders in' ottn.- . cil, .which he bad presented on the 15th :inst. to a . Commitite.e at the Whole House, Alter a few-observations by' Sir Jo lIN NEWrORT, priticiP-4 11 Y EIPProbP . til.' . the '.measure Prui 4 ( 4o4, And a, short plantatOn 'bk . the cIiANCELLOR of the EXCIIMIER, • . ' 'inc. Orders were referred . to' a Committee, and the ficuse having riSaived itself in : 6.i he Coauri it tee, tile Cll,Litllitti was dittEted ', to move for leave to brii4;* it, tl. ~w,,Aill , for Making. ial id' certain Orders in Council under warratitlot the Treasury; for permit ting, dm:, invo.(loitott::atid,wardiousing . of certain goods - itnpOrted in.neutral vessels,' and for indemnify ing certain perst,ns for remitting the forfeins j u thereupon ; and also tor permittiniliii,,Nl l 'esritto ailoir geods.'to be'liworted fm ro corntin.le utri#4.• wheltee the Britisit'ilag is (=chided, in tiny, Vessels: whatever. , • - 1 .1.1ae House having been resumed, the itevort 7,v3s ret6ived, kid leave granted. -.. , , , Mr. BANKES brought up the Report of C.,n-i -rnittee a ppointed to search the v orJ.W,.jouri,'4,, v. , it,ii rove6t,to the _,Apversitkunry 411.--,Tne ,1,41441- v , ••is ottli.srecl to lie on'the. , table. .c, ~ . , 'Mr. Iriiikitrigfie tiolice, that he would"C4ll_ the attention of the_Hougo,to the subjecl'on !.'doutlay. Mr. W. trubtrk4s was d4.44.16h nt 1115411.R1 Ole .pret:the natpr_e ,otAie P.roetreiijpg ,µ h i eli : ., , or e i ff a it . 'Gentleman meant to prop Ise. ....'-: - ~ .._ Mr. L . V . Pili,l:s replied,: that zilt.iiollg iilleilid , i4 i wish absolutely to hind himheli by y f his . ertie teiit,, deehired, that .the htelination of Ins tflit4o . :A . , go A.: l e .was;. to move tut leave to b, it% in n Bill-A*o trnie ,to he limited, anti thus to (IpdeaV(Yar to;:tuake th,d . measure saatilat:lory to both tiotises of Parliament.. •Crilo64l STAizi:ay preseottd a 'Petition :from ; the inhabitants. of Manehester hod its netlibouihood, The :Petition, was read try the Cie*: It stated the distresseCtinder which fife Petitimers ' laboured from the 'ruin .or their ntmuiaetnyeri,hy the, eontinanen of hostilitie. Many of Then), with their wives and helpless children, wore reduced to chill:' ing poverty, - "and Iricl 110 reionree of the . peaceful• grave. They lainetited the rupture the . hite Neao. , tiation, and trusted , that. no opportunity - Woulebe loss of.resurtring it; • If the deinstids of the enemy were , incOMpatible 'With 'per honour arid inieteits, the , Petitioners would ever know and, feel the duty they owed their Country. The Petition concluded with praying, that the Houser . would address his Majesty-on thesubjeCi.‘ • • ' On Colonel STANLUY's Moving that the Petitkoh: do lie on the. table, , Mr. WityrtiattAD-rose to observe, that the l'eti. ! Lion, hs he unarstood,- wai signed by fifty' thou.' sand persons; inliddition to the Petitions 111ned bf s(tveral. thousands' on the table of the House. Ho' \l:i perfealy ignoiant of any- inciteitteuts having becn used to the producillon of those . Petitions he believed they were completely unsolioitedr, - And that thoy.wete forced, from the Petitioners by their neces ,,itios. The language of :he present PotitiOn was and the prayer of it ought to he ,at ended to,, Ic threw agreat :respon,ibility on . his i'4ljesty's,Mitftsters, who were bound to .li.teir to the ri"tpresentations which it cohtshiel If, ilMbe of a short time, nuinifestat ion was iiiade at their sit i tcere disposition , to attain the'Ob j...c.t Tor which the Petitioners -prayed, it. wolird'bo t ;to duty _of the House Af Commons 'to in:ila,.,`siituel representation to the Crown on the subject .--The petition was Bien ord , -;:rod tai tie , on the tank. 1:144 , Pitia.t4criLt.oit 91" the 4tcticAttitla moved tlie,third reading of the Bark Exportation ?rchibi tion Bill. Mr..HII3BERT moved that the Bill be t.ad 4 third time that day , three months. A long discussion etpued, in which Sir R.l'itsLa defended the Bill and Sir J. NEWPORT, Mr, G. VANSITT.ART, Mr. POSSONBY, Mr. WHITBREAD, Mr. HIBIIKRT,.Rpd Mr. N.. VANSIT FART ) opposed it. 0n a aiiiion tlTFriTppeared, 'Far the Bill - Against it . The Bill was then ,read a' third time and passed. After a short conversation, in which Mr. Fosral4 All . . Sir J. NEivPORT, and Sir A. WEL !LESLEY participated, the Irish Corn_ Laws Expiring 13ill was read a third time -and- passed.' )Mir. A. Biatko,adwrting to the•iitatement made by a Right Hon..genfie t ,man,olr,_,ltose) the , other 'evening, that the dxoOftsiif . the last nine .weeks ex ceeded by. t 00,0001.-a. wMr'-the kports of the cur. .respopding,nine weeks of the last Ottri, was desirous, in the absence of tic Hon...oentlernan, to • ask the Right Haii. and' Learned Qantleman oppo ,site,.whether intended. to' Slim this as the situation of the general expoits of the country, or Of the port of London alone ?' was proceeding, "With some obiervations on the subje6l, when ' Mr...TittyANki spoke to 'dicier. The SiAICER told the' Hon. Geiftremari that must confine himself to the . bac epwsiinn. TheCHAN - Ozw..ou of the &coot:ow:a rose to re ply, ha deviating - aho into some genetal remarks, Mr. TignsEr.again spate to.oider.: , The CHANCELLQR of 0 0. 1*Ottlyitrea then stated, that-nhts Right lion. Friend did pat allude to the ge neral ExpartS, bin therely totite.lXliorts from the Port of London: He could•coatirtif 'the statement that with the exception of theitrticle of Coffee; the Eiport'S' of the last nine - week4 had heed considera bly greater than the Lxports of the corresponding •••.4 weeks of the last year. Mr. 4ARINq gave: -notice,: that on - Menday ha Nvottlit move for an ACcount of the. Exports from the Port of Londonfor the last'tvtio tnimths, and for the two corresponding months of the last year. • Mr,.HusmssoN obtained-leave to bring in a Bill to - continue, for 'a time to., be limited, the Mt of the 46th of his Majesty'relative to Malt. The Bill was brought in, read a first tirne a .and ordered to be read a second time - on Monday. • ...I . ORDERS IN COUNCAI,„ • On the Motion Or . Mr. AldegLi totastl the Horse went.into the consideritiOn the Petitions from the Merchants of. Lendon, Liverpool, and Manchester, against the. Orders in Connell. It having been inquired whether Counsel were in attendance; and the answ'er 'being in ;the affirtna 4 tive, Me..Broughnln was, summoned to-the bar. • Messrs . . G. W. Wood and .Shakespoar merchants iitld manufacturers, of Manchesor,Ootil cerned in the trade to the United Staies of Arne"' , rica, were then successively nailed in, dud under.? wont a full'examination in chief and by cross tater" Togatories, touching the eftea of the . Orders in . Council upon the: trade- between this Country and the. United States of North America. The general tenor of their testimony..was, that the Orders in Council had had the effect of preventing shipments to Anae rite; but . that the failurc: of . Nymeitoief , . , ./lilis America upon London, for goods aoteee4ently sent., to America, had commenced as early as the middle of November last, before the .Orders in ,Counc; 1 • • could have been known in Americ=a, or have pro duced any effect -hero. . . • , . 3. Palmer, the next witness, described himself as an agent, but acknowledged himself to be qlcrit ttithe • house of, Geast and Company, with. a discretional poweTto direet the shipments and other business of that house, the absence of the' partners;„ who .were new ittaimeriea. H>r stated that the bettso Geast and Co.-had demisted from shipping good' for Arnim gins , the (Yeders of _Council had been , iSa.ned. If the Orders; in C.,kinc i I wen! rig3led, hm V:0914 .r.e.itune, , the shipments, in ahe confidence that . the etnnat'ago now exikting . in Atrterica would be te" well` as the Nen-finpOrtation Att. liß alibwd that exports to America caul& be:P. 24l wY o "br.,hY Bills of SxChan,ge, to be provided tar goods sent 1. - om'Aaa::i,:a. • L p e Jr. being„,found that tor.; .witness had signed t h e ~ tition before the Honse, it was stated,ateder.tae afew ,thority of the Cbair,•tliat he was not entitled to be heard'as a witness, hut the objettion Having stated:that he signed the ,C2 11 i 115 . ..the meeting fOr - •th.e purpose. of pelitiolog, with d i ."' tranT - of Geast-an o Geast-and; CO::- and that he signed the Pe n ' titan his : own atameii4s.being, independent f his agency for that house,,a shipper on hisoWn account; • though not to . any large extent, i t was prOposea, i tliiitahe.,t4trestion relatingjO.this,point, witlt„it s ai l • swer, be expunged. --' A diusion took placeaon this question. 4, • ' • For the expunging . . Against it - - - 43 . - "rife exarriinatiOn of "this Witness being , tertni 4 , nated, it as proposed,' by the,CitataFityißA - , -9 f EXCHEQL/Eni that, pervious to calling ia.any others., All , 'Counsel,shOuld be asked to - wha t s ibe. on,xl, to xartiitie This produced' tt AidttS si W 1 0h was: after some time, internipted by the SVi:A.Kftli, who said, the saving of time could be ef' , fake ainl► by deciding the question phoposedby the , CUANCiLGOK of the Exeosauctt at once. • ,• was dedded in the affir- The que.stion beingpnt, motive ; and Mr. 'Brangharn being watt instruCled to':preface the calling in of each Witnesv• • ' • I•d ntio. f 61 , 011 th . epoints to which lie Meant to exam , t ine • • r prove . ts, n- Alexander Glenn) , was then. _called Aao the difficulty of cilitaining ret uittanceffiromAi licri . ca * He ascribed this difficulty to tercourse . between America atld the Contiant.,' crenCil knew of no stoppage of AmericathShiPe Potts previons to the issiting'of _the Orders in Prill" Bell ..was next exacnined t o the. S3l/1C points a Mr. Glenny, ' . • • uo 'The Cit.V;iCELLQR of the ExciiEdu Zl2, See!f l g prospect of the examination being clos ed this night, ,11;19dght it right.,-at this.late• hour (one o'clock), 0 c . propose th i:dlournment of tliellirther proceedings 'ti,W4a it till Tuesday ; which was ordered according 11y,—Adjourned till Monday. 14AI I.S. A • "P,liviD. —I DUblin. Dug—a Cottenburllf, MAlth, Dublin, a Waterford.