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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENI. HOUSE OF PEERS. 'THURSDAY, , MARCH 9. , • The Maynooth College Bill was broughtbrought i p'from the Commons, and read a first time. . ." COPENHAGEN. The Order of the Day being read, Lord-SUFFOLK rose pursuant to notice, to Move for the Correspondence which had passed Ittween MS Majesty's Ministera 'and Mr. Garlicke, respea ing the hostile designs of the Court of nDenMark rtgaiast this Country,' .which' it had been . asserted, were made ,evident by. that Correspondence. It was desirable indeed that satisfadory evidence:should he laid before the - House, in proof of thedelligedi, eney or necessity which induced Ministera.toru , . bark in such a violent and unwarrantable measure as the attack upon. Copenhagen. He had as yet heard no argument or explanation -.to satisfy -his mind on these points; He- was, therefore anxious that some proof might be adduced .that -would de monstrate that necessity, and rescue the name-and charader ofthe Country from the shame and degra, d.eioo which that ill-starred Expedition must ether , wise fix upon them. It was moreover necessary to vindicate the individual .c.baraeler of Mr. Garlicke,. with whose dispatches Ministers had taken a liberty unauthorised by any pradice of , Parliament with which he was acemainted. The Noble Lord .con. eluded with kmoving an Address to his Majesty, pray , : ink that diredions -be given to lay before the ,House such Correspondence as had taken place.betweee Mr. Garlick° and the Secretary of State,' from No.' vember, 18e1i, to July, 1807i-respeaink the designs which in conjunction ,with Russia, Den Mark was supposed to be entertaining against this Ceunfr'y. . Lord .11.:111VES BURY obsCrved, tliftt' if the Noble Earl Who made this motion 'had .a . 4 - entled former debates; he must have known thatthe Papers he now moved for had already been'refuited; 1 and that the motion, the objet of which was to have them ptoduced, , had been negatived aftefili Itiainte end long discussion ; that such . Papettalijii4 been produced in another place, was no reason why they should he laid before 'their Lordships; the more so, as no special grounds had been slated fOr producing them, and es the subje't to' which they related had long since 6eau thoroughly investigated and solemn; ly decided on. As no necessity whatever was sho,vn for the produalen of such Papers at the present tuo 'luent, he. thought perfeEtly justitiq.l. in op. .paiing:the inuton of the Noble Earl. feed GREY argued at great length in support of the motion. When these very dacutn4nts were I; v: l tei.l. for in another place, they had been refused ors the plea that the prodedion of thetu might be detrimental to the public 'intereSta :..yet when the manse 'Papers were afterwards mcived far in order to vindicate the character of an individual, all appre hensions of public. danger vanished, and in order to • clear the 'character ef that individual from green& less tnisreprescutation the Correspondence was pro ;;iticed. The Noble Lord concluded` with a warm panegyric - on the condu& of Mr. , Garlicke,• which in all the situations that Gentleman had been, placed in, was uniformly marked by ability, integrity, and Neal. Lord lIMPKESBURY most cheerfully coincided in every praise that could bebastowtidOn Mr. Gar- licke, of who,e merits he had long been so convinc ed, that he l al omitted no opportunity of reeont 7 'mending him for promotion to his Majesty. As to the Copenhagen Expedition, every thing that- had :since happened only confirmed him in the opinion .of the expediency,. indeed the absolute necessity of that Expedition. . . Lord Gttruv tr.r.v. and Lord Hotr.Arin repeated morit of the arguments' which, on 'farther occasions, lod been urged against the Baltic' ExPediKiiii, and contended that every possible infornuircifi'should be lailbeforo the Otiose, to explain h'ihMiire, the consequences of which must every day come under discussion. Lord Mtn.c A.V r. very ably: . replied ; and, after sonie explanation tram Lords GaILNVILLE arid floi.-; LAND, the question was called for, ;Willa Motion• was negatived without a division. Oktmitts tN COUNCIL 'rile Older of the .Day . was then Moved by Lord 11.1wscsatitlY, for the House to resoltik it if into' a Committee on the Orders in COantilNliiht and the Howe acc ,, rdingly, after someobservatiOtts from Lord A.O Cbt LAND on what passed last' night,"tcstilv ell itself into the said Committee. On the Clause Wilding the penalty of death, snd other penalties of a heavy nature, Lord GREN .OI,LE WA 'OCCASiOn to observe - on the hupropriety . at introducing these - rigours of the law 'into Re twine Acts. moved thm. the Clause be oinittO, Lord !;trot allowed that it was a general evil in the . Revenue Laws to include these heavy . 114 hoped the NOble Lord, wc,uld not press, Ili the pw , ent Instance, ibr the omission of a Clause tehich was COpled front all the other tteveim ACis, lint It, was cellainly to be wished that SOtne trencr.:l Ad, brit:ging all these penalties into a 'comprehen sible compais, should be speedily passed.' . - Lord It ote.sn A tP. appeared . to agree ,in principle with: these Noble Lords, bat..to diff;Jr in .the de tails ()t the application. The Clause Was;a lowed tQ St:;itt;t. 'On the Clause for allowing East India Goods de tained in Forergrt Ships to be landed anti ware boused" f o r Exiwilmion, xceptioo was taken by L or d G:4Nytt.t.a, on the ground I haf:: it it violat,ion of the East India Company' Charter. An Antfndrnent• to this Ciaose was negatived wttbout a division.. No Other ainendtnent was proposed, and all the otlier.Clattses were agreed to; Alter some conver sation, it wits iigrced that the third reading of the Bill should *laud for to-tnorrow (this day.)—Ati jourried at halt' past one, 'MUSS Oh' C0MA101178.,,t-ii iAir, Vllt..4llilkll/0 MOOTLE reported "il'orn the rid y emlter t:,;omtniite:e, that the-,Sittiug !Ale:Albers had been duly elotled, and that tip,: Petitions ile" ; ;Iilliit thrtil sAts.:ri.!: Ilut iliVoiotlS nor vexatious; • A Alessagg from the Lords acquaintod the House, their . Lordships had agreed to the Irish corn Intvrcourse bill, . and seelal. - Vrivate without vy 4.leodulehts: • I WESTMINSTER PETITION, The SPEA KER informed the-House, that, as Tues day last' had ,been .appohited for taking 'into consi deration the Petition complaining of the last Elec tion and Return for WEstininster, and the Right Hon. Richard Brinsley Sheridan 'had not .appearid by himself, his Counsel, or Agents, within an hour after the time fixed for taking the' same into consi .deration, he had certified such default to the Court of Exchequer, in order to the recovery of the re cognizances. Mr. Bviso•Tresented a Petition' from the Com missioners of • Sewers in Westminster, againit the Bill for building a Bridge over the Thames opposites Southampton street. Referred to the Committee upon the Bill. •. An Account was presented of the quantity, of bar ley and oats used in the distilleries of Scotland in the year , 1807. Ordered to lie on the table. The INSPECTOR G6NERAL of Exports and Imports presented an Account of the number of Ships em ployed in the trade of the Port of London, with the amount of their tonnage, and the number of men and boys employed in navigating the same, together with an Account of the quantity -of died Cotton exported 'from the Port of London, and the other, Ports of Great Britain, to America and Denmark, within a Specified, time, pursuant to Order of the House. Ordered to lie on the table. ELECTION COMMITTEES. The Stii-ling and Penrhyn Petitions stood for con sideration this day ; but the ballot fur the Cominittee to try► the latter tailed. The following are the Gen tlemen upon the Stirling Committee:— P. Bayley, Esq. 1.• Albion, Esq. Lord G. Thymic, • P. F. Maitland, Esq. W. If. Fe Llowesi .Esq. Sir John King, .Bart. W. M—Pitt, Esq. C. Mitchell, Eat . A. M'Kenzie Frazer, Esq. W. Richardson, Esq. I. Marryatt, Esq. Charles Porcher; Sir J; F.li, hart. • r-cominsr.s: Win. Adam, Esq. Sir James Montgomery,'Bart. Ordered, on the motion of the CHANCELLOR Of the Excnno.unt, that the names of the'dethulters on the Ballot of .this 'day be reported to the HetiSe to-toorrow. The House was then ordered to be called over to morrow, and the usual Ballot orders renewed., ttusit GRAND lURY PREStiniiTMENTS. " • Mr. M. FITZGaRALD ' pursuant to his notice, moved, " That there bolndbefore the House an .Account of the Presentments which had been passed by the Grand Juries of the different . 'Connties in- Ireland,*at the Spring and Summer Assizes of the year . 1807, particularizing the pUrposes to which they had been applied." A6o, " That there be laid before the Rouse,. cOpies, of the- Query. Books of the Clerks of the Crown of the ditierent' Counties in Ireland, for the Spring and Surniner Assizes of 1807." Also, !‘ An Account,of the number of In formations and Bills Of Indiarnent sent up by the Clerks of the Crown of the different Coun ties in Ireland to their respeelive Grand Juries .at the Spring and Summer Assizes of the year 1807; and also an Aeceturt' of the number of days • each AssiZes lasted." In preferring these Motions, the Hon. Member' stated his intention to be, after produaion of tto Papers, to move, that they be re ferred to a Committee, in order that, on a subject so well deservitig the attention of the House, • they might. have the aid of the tittstit.Tt-t,,!u,,acquainted with the mode of rith,ittg att,i itioaies in the Counties of this Country. t oi)jea was not to trench upon the power of :;rzln , l Jtait;:.'§, but to pro vide the means of ha,. htg it e moDieggonted by th e Grand Juries. satisract9rily aeccuhtett , far to Parrs. merit. The last Return which he moved fir, wits designed to thew whether the time allowed tar Grand Juries to sit was ,sufficient for the ,ac complishment of all the business which it was their duty to attend to. After a short conversation be tween Mr. Foster, " Cal. Barry, Sir John Newport, and Mr. Fitzgerald, the Motions were severally Agreed to. IRISH LINEN BOARD. Sir JOHN NEWPORT moved, that there be laid betbre the House a Copy of the Letter of the Secre tary of, the Treasury in 'lreland, dated 7th Odtober, 1807, to the Trustees of the Linen Board, 'respeCt. nig the deficiency of the Funds intrusted to their care ' • also a Copy of the Minute of the Proceedings of tbe Linen Board, dated 15th October, 1806, whereby they suspended James Corry from his Of fice, as Secretary to . that Board; also a Copy of the Memorial of James Corry to the said Board; also a Copy of any Report of the Law Officers of the Crown in Ireland, respecting the ernbeizlement of , rhe Funds intrusted to the Secretary of the Linen Board ; also an Account of the. Sums which had been paid'to Mr. March, Surveyor and . ArchiteO to the Linen Board, from the Ist of January, 1800, specitying the n dates of the several paymeets, and the authority by which they were made, as also A% he titer made according to estimates previously pre pared, together with the balances due to or from the said March, at the time of the last settlement ; and also the names cf the Trustees who had audited or passed the Accounts; and several other Papers on the satire subjed. Alter a fet - u observations from Mr, FosTna, who did not objet,l to the produdion of the Papers ; and Ntrwvorti., who bad net the slightest idea of imputing a shadow of impropriety to the Trustees of the Linim Board, and whose oh:Jed was solely to remedy the deices arising from the, fluctuating na ture of their constitution, the motions wer e all agreed to. LAND TAX COMNIISSIONERS' APPOINTMENT Mr. HUMISSON obtained leave to bring in a Bill fol . Regulating the .Appointment of Commissioners to carry into execution - the Land and Malt Tax Aft of the present Session, In submitting his motion ' to the House, Mr. Huskisson stated, that, his object by the Bill was, that as the County Members had hitherto' taken upon them.the appointment of Cour missionerS under the former Mt, the lists:ofithe present ; Commissioners should' be referred to . them fOr the insertion of Other names, or the erasure of any now existing, as it should seem to them expe dient, "He proposed, that the Bill, when brought in, should be read . a 4ir . st time„ and then printed; slier which, it was to lie over for some time, and to 'he circulated through the country, in order to its being, fully understood, and adequately judged of by those nio,t intere4ed in it. The A.TIThi4EY oa, gave notice of a mc tion 6-morrow, which, as well as we could co l. iett its pi4ort, is for 10vc to bring in a lilt ing certain Proceedings and Ofil,er, of the Court of King's Bench. Mr.:WHARTON 'brought up: the P,eport of the Committee' of, Supply. The Resolutions were se yerally read and agreed to, The Orders in Conned Indemnity Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Mon day next. The Irish Bank Token Bill was reported, and ordaed to be read a third time to-morrow. PETITIONS.AG4,kINST the ORDERS in COUNCIL. The: CHANQEILOR of the ExciteQuax,gs after moving the Order of the Day for goihg into a Com- Mlttee on the Petitions against the, Orders in Council, thought it right, before he should move that the Speaker do leave the Chair, to state' the' course which he proposed to recommend to the-House to adopt on the subje& of the examination of other witnesses, and which, upon inquiry, he found to be conformable to 'the precedents of the pra&ice of they House on similar occasions. It.was therefore `not , his intention to move this day for the produc tion of other evidence, but according to the praCtice of the House, to allow the present Petitioner* to close their case, and after Wards to hear the observa tions of their Counsel upon the evidence produced by them. It would then, be competent to the Houae, if the evidence should not appear sufficient, to call upon the other Petitioners, or . Upon other Wit nesses, and to,examine them, touching the subjea: Betas it might not be fair to call upon the' Learned Counsel, suddenly, to submit his .observatieus the House, upon the evidence, he proposed, that, .however short the time may be - which wohld be OC cepied this night in the examinatioit of the remain ing Witnesses, the business should Stand over tjll Tuesday, when the Learned Counsel should be heard, upon the evidence. , . . Mr. TIERNEY thought, that even the course pro posed on the preceding evening, by the Right Hon. Gentleman, that of hearing the contrary evidence, and of being present by their Counsel to crust'-examine the VitnesSes that should be brought lorWard, before. he was finally to sum up, would have been triuth more desirable for the Petitioners than that now suggested: It would be peculiarly, hard Upon the Petitioners, if evidence should 'be brought forward to disprove the allegations of their petition, and con trovert the evidence they producel in support of them, that they should not be, permitted to cross-ex amine the. witnesses 'by their Counsel, or call other witnesses in support of their Case. The House was placed in a novel situation by the course .pursued by the Right Hon. Gentleman, though ail these diffi culties might be avoided it the proCeedingliad ori ginated in a Cominittee of Trade. - • :The CHANCELLOR of EXCHEQUER illSiSt64 that the proceeding was perfectly regular, : and adverted to the precedent of the course adopted upon a Peti tion against the Tobacco Bill' in the year 1790, as fully in point; on' which occasion the Petitioners' Evidence and Counsel had been , heard at the Bar; and the House had afterwards thought fit to call for Other witnesses, and to examine with reaped to the matter of the Petition, and the evidence brought forward in support of it.. Mr. TtettNEY acquiesced for the present; but re served to himself the right to oppose the course pro 'posed by the Right Hon. Gentleman, if. it should, appear to him not to be regular. The • SPEAKE3 then laid'down the praaice of the . House in a clear and satisfadory Manner. Whatever course it should ultimately please .the House to ,adopt, the proceeding, he observed, had been hither to perfectly regular.. In the opposition which had heen given to the Boston; Port and the Bill to restrain the Trade of New. England, Petitioners had - been heard by, their Counsel at the Bar of . this tionse, and evidence, examined in support of their Petitions, but that had not precluded the House . from taking such other steps as 'were deemed expe dient to investigate the allegations i 4 the Petitioners. There were many instances of the examination of witnesses upon Petitions, at the. Bar of the whole . House, but the latter pra6tice had been to exa mine witnesses at the' Bar in a Committee of the ' whole House. As .the proceeding . in a Com mittee of Trade, when Petitioners presented them selves 'to that House, and "prayed to be heard by their Counsel, the practice was, if their Petition was received, to accede to the prayer of it, and by the habit of the House, after hearing evidence, to per mit the Counsel to sum up the whole at the conclu sion of the case. The House had then many courses, any one of which it [night adopt, but it was quite impossible that a Committee of the whole HoUse should be tied up by the evidence produced in sup port of the allegations of the Petitions, .which might be erroneous, partial,' absurd, or even false, as might be proved by other evidenc e., _ There were also many cases wherein the House, withou t any claim made on the part of an 'adverse party to be heard, had thought tit, for its own satisfac tion tricall.for further evidence; after the Petitioners case had closed. The Tobacco Case, which had beenreferred to by the Right Hon. Gentleman (the Chancellor of ,the Exchequer), was one of that de scriptioe. For after the Petitioner and his Counsel bad closed the case and withdrawn, the House or, , delve' other witnesses to attend, and the Committee sat again to hear. the evidence ot,'these witnesses, - and the House took other proceedings thereon. it any Gentleman had any doubts on the subjeet,, he would do well to consider that case. The case of the Shop Tax Bill was similar. The proceedings, therefore, had been hitherto all 'regular, and the next step would be to hear out the case of the Peti-. tioners, and the observations of their Counsel in summing, after which the House would decidewhe titer it should order other witnesses to attend, or whether other evidence should be necessary. The HoUse then resolved itself into the Corns mittee, Mr. W HARTON in the Chair,' and proceeded with the examination of the remaining witnesses, in support of the Petitions., Mr. Garland, of PoOle, Mr. Pollock, late of Boston in New-Brigland, Mr. Mann, and Mr. Rath bime, were the witnesses examined. After the exa mination was closed, it was agreed by the Gentlemen whh eondo&ed it on both sides, that progress should b e roported, and that the Committee should sit again t ei TUdiday.—AdjourntA. F. 70,11 THE AMERICAN PAPERS. V: YORK, FEB. 20.—1 t w.ill be seen -(says the I;.lltimore Federal Gazette of Tuesday last) by the tt,.2k) . lutione . altered by Mr, DOVION yeserdiiy, r Congress intend soon to rise. We tau t view this in conneeiton with the repotted Special Mission of Mr. Nouess to Great Britain. it is not pr, bable that the Governowt.has offered such terms as the! are taught to belieov9, by Mr. Rosa will be acceded to by 'this Court ; and that Congress having no fur ther or 4egssary business (in their estimation) to perform tit. f pr,otiont, will adjourn, to meet again% about the time at which Mr. Noußsa may be ex peaed to return from London. We have no posi tive information of this being the present state of things, but from all the information hi our posses- Sion, we are of opinion that Congress will . adjourn this Month to meet early,in May. We 14zard no opinion as to the probab►lity of the embargo being raised sooner or later to consequence' of this agree able change of atfairs, • NEW YORK., FEB. 24. EXTlLit'll Or - ArIETTER FROM WASHINGTON, PRE. 20. r•Mr goie bas taken rooms in Washington city, for the Captain of thi Staiira . but 'on Wednesday' last gai'e thcni, up. It is interred from this circum stance; that tlie . :;Statira is about' to depart from the United Ata4s:: - • " The President has said, that it cannot be dem terinined till next - week whether COngress may ad- journ for two or ; .three , months. . it 1-las been pro posed to adjourn to . the middle :Of March,,aiid con. vene again itt - May., As soon. ds Mr. MAigsora iS able to attend to business it is expeCted that a long ilepOrt,,on our relations with Fiance will h!e, criads to CO'n#ess: " When the.news was yesterday received of an • , Algerine war, .au,,N Member of Congress • from grth. Carolina, inquirO, whether our Ships would . not, in' returning,-be liable to capture. The Learn ed Gentleman supposed they returned tkough the, 111editerraneau.'! EXTRACT "OF A VERY IMMITANT LETTER FRO? ' ' - WASHINGTON, DATED NEL. 4. ~ "1 lave:rict, from my political standing, access to, the ptlicial'; fountains—it ,14 not mine accedere ad foetfibut information from those sources has de scenthid 'ro Me 'through such channels - that. I can veli'ture to assur e you, almost beyond a doubt, that ourgdOtliaices with Great Britain will be speedily and asatisfittitonilyaccountiodated. Apprehensions of French influence upon our Councils have been en tertained, even by many of the Republican Party —but that danger is nearly over: .We,shall have peace with Britain. War with France will follow and America and Britain will be the only obstacles to •the gigantic project of NAPOLEON , and A L EX , . ANDER to - divide the world between • them. Gloomy, will be - 'the' prospect,' horrible will be the, contest l r7 Hemi"eit'alorte can save ua, and let us confidernlY . hope!that Heaven will yet smile on tho cause of , freedom." . ' . ,• - . . WAsIII?IGTON, FEB. 10.—ihE Bill passed to-day by•the House of Representatives, the ostensible ob jeifit of which is ,to explain the Non-importation Law, is in truth the virtual repeal of that Law. It - permits the importation of all articles in vessels of the United States which left this country prior to the 4th of December last? . The Embargo was laid • the 22d of that month, and consequently no Vessels are now liable to the provisions of the Non-importa tion Law, except those which left the country be , tween the 14th and 23d Deember. .Thlg very im portant amendment was yesterday introduced into 66 Explanatory Bill in a thin House, and whilst most of the Members were standing about 'the fire. Messrs. NICHOLAS and Nawrote said a few words, 'but in so low a tone, they could only ,be heard by a few.. The Majority of the House supposed the Bill very-sate- while in the hands of those ' Gentletten, and•gave no attention to the subjea. I doubt whe ther hall the Members know at thii Moment that the Bill contains any such provisions.. Thus, in the name and under the pretence of explanation, the hoitoe'4 measure of 'Non-importation l ms silently been - (retie a way, provided the Senate 'agree t o the Bill. . r.. , - .., WAsHINOTOIC, Fan. 1 2 . .—N0 particulars transpire of the pending Negociatiotil bat Id judge irons 04 conversations I have had with many ,veil-infOrrned persons, I continue of opinion that Atkitt er g i w in e ' amicably adjusted. Mr. M ADISON h a s been.confilied to his room for some days, and is to-LW 'very.all' well : this will of course ward the e croctation ; but it is expected that the President will make a corn . mu 16?1:4n to. Congress in the course of nex t week, 'edq iiiiiiting them of a salistiletury reparation h aving 'beei made for the affair 01 . the ChesapeJlte. TO Presideni has said, that it cannot' tie determined o . )n until next week, whether gTess may adjourn forN two or three Months. It has been proposed to ad' journ In the middle of March, and convene ag:aill in May. As,soon us Mr. MADISON is able to at. . tend business, it is expected that a long- Report ell our relations %yip France will be made to'Corigre s '' —(l7. S. Gazette.) WASHINGTON, FEB. 14.—1 cannot help repotting the repoit which' was mentioned in your Paper Of Friday, that a,,Treaty hes aatiallv be on framed he-• . tween Mr. ROSE and our Government. It ia uerncealso said Mr. Nouasa, brother of the Register oftill, Ticasury, is to.carry this Treaty so England.' 11 hitter circumstance, it is sn of some doubts as to Mr. R ppOsed,•iS in cons eq o so's powers. , There is some talk that Con g ress will adjourn . shortly, to meet again the Ist of May. WASHINGTON, Jan. 17.—For: those who are in the babits,of intimacy w ith the Members of the. Ad 7 ministration, it, is difficult, and for me it is imp_4l sible, .to give corre6 itiformatien cinicerning the 1,1 0, Veil oltd ver, Eaptof ega,i,as, of allowance. Such . iet it is, how,c ..c, gOcia(ion. \ly opinion is therefore to be. IS r I caittll)UniCate it to you. , I think. Mr. Rose's. N 1.14 gociatiou w ill not:terminate amiwbly., . ,You are well acquainted as iam With the pO•liiality Which Mr. Jut:reason his so long felt fOrltancp, andhots of course calcolated that when the Ernperer and li , - 11 ,,.. . drove him to make 0 choice of his . anm enistt , lw e would not decide , i n no , part e; his disclosures has he indulged • himself in evenie itgainst .)Vapoleon.. hint hostile t , } France. - Upon no occasion dee, 9 , 1 )11 , seent,te,k4ve been wanting in either the tlis1 30 ": 1 .. or ettstaft,to inf la me the pre-existing nat!onal a , to this day vie. mqsity 'against England. A. od even are _ignorant '‘theth.er he', liar ever dared to iiisti a ul AE*STRONG to wnonstrate, in an indepen 4 e!it_,.. , manly style, „AgainSt the Decree of Piracy 0!..N1300v,. 21, ltitiL So much for the general dispositiose! the Adinitlistration. Last bight, at Alr. E'es . l‘ 9 l _ o l4 , Levee, (indisposition prevented my being Pre, e o ", e i a Mr. hosier, a Geuilemaq that he . had bltig '