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13} per Cent., 3} and 5 per cent., were not mere guess work ; or whether they had been founded on experience ? lar.DWYER—The p rogress o f t h e ra il way was restr i cte d to Sa llies only during one year, and not until the Commis sioners had made out their Report, which might take a longer time. The profits had not been estimated by guess work, but were ca l cu l ated on by exper i ence, an d on t h e opinions of several most eminent engineers. The Rev. J. SHEEHAN remarked that the Dublin and Kingstown line did not pay near 13i per cent. The profit on that Ih - le was calculated by some at 6 per cent., by others at 2f. Mr. BALD replied that short railways were not as pro fitable as long. The Kingstown line paid 6 per cent. Mr. MICHAEL J. QulNably replied to the statements made by Mr. Dwyer, and maintained that private capital would be insufficient to effect so great an undertaking. Even if any Company could be formed to engage in the proposed plan, there would be no security for the com pletion of the work. Witness the example of Mr. Dwyer, who had lost three hundred pounds by a Private Company which never commenced the Railroad they projected. Be sides, it would not be just or politic to place so much power in the hands of twenty private Directors, over whom the country would hare no controul. The intercourse of the whole nation would depend on their mandate. Mr. F. DAVIS confessed that his views were altered by the speeches he had heard, and was convinced that Mr. Quin and he were in unison. It would be well that the public should have the option of purchasing shares. Mr. H. DOWNES considered the proposal of Govern ment a great god-send to the country, and that the citizens should do much to promote the undertaking. As to leaving out the Suir in the Report, he did not think the citizens should on that account refuse the advantages offered. Counsellor HAYEs proposed a resolution that Govern nient should be requested to undertake the proposed lines, and that the public should be allowed to take shares. It was then carried that the meeting should adjourn to some day within three weeks, to be fixed by the Mayor, with four days' notice, in order that the mee'ing might have an opportunity of hearing the opinion of Mr. O'Connell, who is expected shortly to visit this city.— Waterford Mirror. RAILWAY MEETING-TIPPERARY. A numerous and respectably attended meeting was held at the Court-house in the town of Tipperary, on Tuesday last, for the purpose of taking into consideration the Re port of her Majesty's Commissioners appointed to inquire into the manner in which railway communications can be most advantageously promoted in Ireland, more especially that part of the Report which proposes the establishment of a branch line between Limerick, Clonmel, and Water ford, running within five miles of the town of Tipperary. James Scully, of Tipperary, Esq., J.P., having been called to the chair, and Fran c i s S cu lly, E sq ., having been reques ted to act as Secretary, the Chairman briefly addressed the meeting, and was followed by Mr. L. Smith, Mr. Quin, Mr. J. Cooke, and Mr. N. Sadleir, when several resolu tions were proposed and carried in furtherance of the ob jects of the meeting. The thanks of the meetinc , hav ing been given by acclamation to Mr. Scully for his able and dignified discharge of his duty as Chairman, the meet ing was then dissolved.—Tipperary Free Press. GREAT SOUTH WESTERN RAIL WA Y (From the Cork Southern Reporter.) PUBLIC MEETING—MOST IMPORTANT PRO CEEDINGS. Pursuant to one of the most numerously and respectably signed requisitions ever presented to the Chief Magistrate of Cork upon any occasion, a meeting of the city and county —consisting of our leadiag mercantile houses, and of th e landed interests of the county, as represented by several of its leading Proprietors, was held yesterday in the City Court-House, at the call, and under the presidency, of the Mayor. Amongst the gentlemen present, we observed Sir William Chatterton, Bart., Sir William Wrixon Beeper, Bart. ; Sir Thomas Deane ; the City Representatives, Wm. Crawford, Samuel Lane, and a numerous assemblage of those gentlemen upon whom it usually devolves to take a leading part in the local affairs of the City. Daniel Con ner, Esq., o f Manch House, and Maskelyne Alcock, Esq., of Rough -grove House, attended, as a deputation from Bandon, &c. The Court was filled in all parts, and the utmost interest was evinced by the entire audience in the proceedings, which, for importance, have seldom been ex ceeded at any meeting held in this City for many years. We should say that Quinn, Esq., as the representa tive of the Railroad Commissioners ; and -- Smith, Esq., and another gentleman, whose name we did not learn, upon the part of the Dublin and Kilkenny Railroad, were also present. Mr. Meagher was appointed Secretary to the meeting. The MAiolt opened the proceedings by reading the re quisition, which, he had no hesitation in saying, either in point of numbers, wealth, influence, and station, was the most important document of such a nature that had ever been produced in Cork.—(Hear.) It represented the parties whose signatures it bore—and they were many hundreds—as being deeply impressed with the various and manifold benefits which would result from the establishment of a railway communication between the cities of Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Waterford, Kilkenny, and several other important towns and places—the vast employment that would be given to the operative classes—the mitigation of the Grand Jury and Poor-rates that would be the conse quence of it ; and being most anxious to promote these paramount objects, they requested his Worship to convene a general meeting of the Merchants, Traders, and other inhabitants of the city, to consider the best means of giving, effect to the Report of the Royal Commissioners, recom mending the promotion of the Great South Western Rail way. In compliance with the requisition, he had called the meeting ; the subject was replete with interest ; and see ing many about him who were much more competent than he was to speak to the great national topics to be brought under consideration, he should desist from saying any more, being confident that perfect justice would be done to the subject, and the utmost propriety prevail during the pro ceedings.—(Cheers.) Sir WIC-CHATTEITON, Bart., here presented himself, and was received with loud and repeated cheering. We are met to promote an object which involves, in no common degree, the interests of our country.—(Loud cheering.) The resolution, Sir, with which I have been entrusted, and which I have now the honour to propose for the adoption of this meeting, is as follows : " That the interests of Ireland would be materially pro moted by a general system of railway, embracing within its operations the most populous and wealthy districts of the country." I need not dwell on the advantages of railroad communi cation, for they are no longer problematical.—(Cheers.) England is already, in a great degree, in the enjoyment of these advantages, and they are extending themselves rapidly in Belgium and France. And when this great force holds out to other countries such brilliant prospects of wealth and prosperity, surely, Sir, it is time that Irishmen should exert themselves, and that we should endeavour to pro cure for our country a participation in those blessings which this extraordinary power is likely to bestow.— (Cheers.) We have, too, additional motives for exertion when we reflect that, perhaps, no country in Europe holds out so much probability for the successful application of the power as our own.—(Hear.) The nature of its surface, to a great extent, affords peculiar facilities for railroad construc tion. We have immense resources now locked up and un productive, the development of which would amply repay the undertaking ; and we have cheap and abundant labour, to bring these advantages into activity.—(Hear.) But, Sir, one great ingredient is wanting to us—that ingredient which is the mainspring of every great undertaking—capi tal.—(Hear, hear.) I trust, Sir, however, that this diffi culty will be overcome, and that the result of this great meeting, and of other meetings similar to it, will be, to give us capital from the source from which, in my opinion, it would most beneficially flow—l mean from the Govern ment of the country.—(Great cheering.) And be it re collected, that we only ask the Government to engage in an enterprise which, while it would bestow wealth and prosperity on our country, would prove to the Go vernment a secure and remunerating speculation. think, Mr. Mayor, that the appointment of the Commis sion, and where a valuable Report is now before the public, may be considered a guarantee that her Majesty's Ministers would look favourably on an application such as this. The Government must be aware what great political considera tions this question may involve. It must know that, of all arguments against Repeal, a judicious railroad communica tion would be the most effective and convincing.—( Ap plause.) It must see the immense importance of directing to so legitimate an object as this the united energies of a , r b egretted, a divided people - of ad great, but, it is to .. be . crivine - employment p to our po o p p u t- - ing a measure, which, by give us tranquillity and lotion, would remove wealth, and place Ireland in a position to become what she ought to be—prosperous and happy.—(Cheers.) Sir W. W. BECHER, Bart ., said that he had much plea aura in coming forward to second the resolution so ably in troduced by his friend Sir William Ch a tterton. For his part, being convinced of the extensive public good to be achieved by the project, he should a fford it all the aid within his power.—(Loud cheering.) The resolution was then put and carried unanimously amidst cheering. Mr. CRAWFORD said, I will commence the duty that devolves on me, by reading the resolution whic h I have to propose : " That deeply interested as we are in the commercial prospects of the country, we deprecate any undue interfer enceon the part of Government with private enterprise ; yet, we ere firmly convinced that the great cents al communications in Ireland by Railroad, being too expensive to admit of com petition, ought not to be left at the mercy of private mono poly, but should be undertaken at the cost of Government ; with a view that the nation at large should be shareholders, and that the reimbursement should be on such a moderate scale, as should secure to the public and the Post-office, the cheapest, speediest, and most unrestricted mode of intercourse. I come not here to-day as a mercantile man to advocate that Government should become traders, but I assert that where public interests are concerned, they should not be made matters of private speculation ; and the Government of the country should say, " We know we have no right to be traders, and we will take care after we are reim bursed for our outlay, that you and the whole nation shall partake of the profits accruing to the commerce of the country from increased facility of intercourse.—(Hear, hear.) On short lines, involving only small outlays, as for instance the Dublin and Kingstown line, I am opposed to the interference of Government ; but where the expen diture is millions, and the difference of time as four hours to one day, competition would be impossible. Mr. Crawford then described a trip which he made not long ago on the London and Liverpool line. He had been informed at the office in London that the journey would be accomplished in (as we understood) nine hours, and was travelling in his carriage reflecting on his pleasant and speedy Journey, when he was roused by the voice of a countryman of his own—such a one as would have mag netised the heart of any English girl—exclaiming, " By the powers I beat them in my donkey cart."—(Laughter.) On inquiring he was told that it was a very lucky train for the shareholders—that the train was very heavy, and the Company would not put on a second engine. They were three hours late in Liverpool, and he had to remain there for 21 hours. And in consequence of the railway being in private hands, the correspondence of this great commercial country was delayed for 24 hours. I think I have said enough to prove that railways of any great length ought net to be in the hands of private individuals.—( Hear.) It has been suggested that the money may be borrowed from Government on the security of Grand Jury Cess, but I think it foreign to the duties of Grand Jurors to sub ject the taxes of their county to the risk of speculation ; and what Grand Juror would consent to tax this city and county with 100,0001. ?—( Hear, hear.) If the Go vernment be disposed to lend the money, there can be no risk as long as they keep the lines in their own hands. And when we see what they have expended on the Welland Canal in Canada, what they have expended in Malta, in Corfu, and in Scotland ; and what Irish money from the Woods and Forests has been consumed in beautifying the streets of London, is it too much to ask, ought not some thing to be expended on the highways of Ireland ?—( Hear, and cheers.) Remember, too, the sums that have been lavished on our armies and navies. But peace has its vic tories as well as war, and they will endure when Trafalgar and Waterloo will be forgotten, or only remembered as specimens of those insane times when nation rose against nation, and country against country. I say, be it our boast, by monuments more lasting than the Pyramids, to span our valleys and to pierce our mountains, and to eclipse the vulgar glare of mere military glory by devo tion to the interests and the welfare of our fellow-men.— (Hear, hear, and cheers.) Mr. THOMAS P. BOLAND seconded the resolution so elo quently introduced by his friend, Mr. Crawford. To the Government he looked alone for the accomplishment of the great object ; and his anticipations were sanguine. The resolution was adopted without a dissentient voice. Mr. SAMUEL LANE presented himself, and was loudly cheered from all parts of the Court. The honour of pro posing the third resolution had been entrusted to him. It was as follows : " That, without pronouncing an opinion upon 1 - te respec tive merits of the line suggested by the Commissioners, and that adopted by private speculation to Kilkenny—either of which would answer the purposes of Cork—we call upon the Government of the Country, where the Commissioners have reported that remuneration adequate to the highest return of the National Funds would accrue from a much more remote and complicated line, to construct a Railway between two of the largest Cities in the Empire, viz., Dublin and Cork." The best interests of Ireland were, in a dogree, involved in the proceedings cf this day.—(Cheers.) The importance of constructing a railway communication throughout Ireland was i n calculable—(Cheers) —and the man who did not esti mate such a project as of the first moment towards lifting. the country into something like an equality with Eng land, sadly mistook the practical means by which such a state of things would be brought about.—(Cheering.) What would the meeting think of the vast advan tages which had already resulted from the establishment of steam vessels between Cork and some of the English ports, when he mentioned the fact, that in the article of eggs alone, at the port of Cork, no less amount than 120,000/. worth were annually exported. The freight on the article of eggs alone exported from Cork amounted to over 10,000/. a year.—( Hear.) And when such a fact was beyond question—when 120,000/. a-year was raised from England, by the means of steam, off eggs alone, what must be the result with regard to the exports of pigs, sheep, cattle, &c.? why it was almost incredible. An opportunity was now afforded, and he trusted that, setting aside all personal and interested motives,save those for the general good, there would be such a union of feeling and of senti ment—such judicious steps adopted, and active measures taken, as must, as far as they were concerned, tend to the accomplishment of the great project indicated in the Report of the Royal Commissioners.—( Loud cheers,) Sir Trios. DEANE said, that in coming forward to second the resolution so ably spoken to by his friend Mr. Lane, he was delighted with the scene before him. His fellow citizens and the many country gentlemen around him had met for one common object—the practical ameliora tion of Ireland.—(Cheers.) Setting aside all party feelings—forgetting those unavailing strifes by which Ireland had too long been distinguished, the present meeting had assembled and had enlisted its best ener gies towards the bringing about a state of affairs, which if effected, would tend to more advantage for their common country than their most sanguine notions could contemplate. —(Cheers.) The motto upon the hearts and lips of the people of Ireland should be " Our country's good."—(Tre mendous cheering.) He approved of the Poor-laws ; but following up their introduction, what could be more accep table than the identification of the Government with the formation of the grand trunk line of railroad, as pointed out by the Commissioners ?—(Cheers.) He entirely agreed with Mr. Crawford that the projected line should be under taken and sustained by the Government of the country ; he deprecated undue interference with private speculation, but he had ever been of opinion, that the direction of all public roads should have been vested in the Government. Sir Thomas Deane continued to advocate the immediate adop tion, practically, by the Government, of the Report of the Royal Commissioners, and resumed his seat amidst cheers. The resolution was put and passed unanimously. Mr. FAGAN, in proposing the next resolution, said it is gratifying to me to find, that my friend Sir. T. Deane has become a convert to the doctrine—(Cheers)—it is time that Irishmen of all creeds and opinions, should recollect that they belong to one common country.—(Hear, hear.) Na ture has done every thing for us ; Providence has showered down on us its choicest blessings ; we have spacious har bours—navigable rivers—rich fields—smiling hills —and fertile plains, and we have the broad Atlantic, encircling our shores, and ready to waft the burden of commerce to the remotest quarters of the globe—(Cheers)—and yet hitherto Ireland is the land, where destiny has fixed a blighting influence—where man has spread around desola tion, and distress, and where every exertion has been made, to mar our bright prospects of prosperity.—(Cheers.) It is, therefore, delightful to find the cordiality which exists here to-day, and the unanimity which has been so ably recommended by Sir Thomas Deane.--(Hear, hear.) There is nothing that improves the intellectual faculties of man, or encreases the prosperity of a nation, so much as facility of intercourse—rapid communication, and the con centration as it were of the wealth, the thoughts, and the energies of a people.—(Loud cheers.) See the position this country is in, from want of facility of intercourse. What do we know of the North ? What do we know of the North western extremity of Ireland ? What commercial communi cation have we even with the Irish metropolis ? Professional men visit i t i n pursu i ng their avocations, b ut t h e great majority of our industrious community know much more of London, and Bristol, and Liverpool. If by the facility of intercourse, the No r th an d South were brought • more in contact, and that they knew more of each other, we should not have cause to deplore the wasting antipathy that exists in the religious feelings of the one towards the other. Mr. Crawford has eloquently enlarged upon the danger of committing these great national undertakings to the enter prize of private companies ; he has explained how injurious to the public interests it would be to confide so important a portion of the national concerns to private individuals ; he has stated to you, how much expense and profit would regulate their conduct, and how impolitic it would be, to give a vested interest in the intercourse of the country, to private individu a l s . —(Ch eers. ) In all countries, Great Britain and Ireland excepted, the roads have ever been under the management of the Government. It is so in France—it was so in the classic period of Roman History —some of the noblest monuments of the wealth and power of Rome, which have been transmitted us, are their roads; these could never have been effected by private enterprize, though there never existed a people whose individual wealth was so great, or that wealth was so lavishly expended upon public objects. H ow , f or i nstance, could the great imperial com menced have been co m pl ete d b y private enterprise, which in Scotland, traversed the barbarous wilds of Bri tain, was again taken up at the modern Boulouge, ,passed through the forests of anc i ent Gaul, surmounted the Alps, passed through Italy, to th e sout h ern shores of the Adri atic—again atic—again was taken up on the coast of Greece, and finally terminated in the plain s of Asia Minor. This could never have been accomplished by private enterprise, for two reasons--first, it was too expensive, and next it was too unprofitable—so it is with railway communications. Short li n es might be undertaken by private Commies, for THE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY, OCTOBER 26, 1838. they will yield a remunerating return, but a long line of railway can only be executed at the public expense, for individual capitalists will naturally confine their specula tions to the paying districts. Another view to take of the subject, in reference to the necessity of Government control over railroads is this—that these lines of intercourse will ul timately become the highways of the country, and in that case it would be in the highest degree impolitic to entrust their construction to private speculation. At the same time, that I make these observations, I would not be understood to advocate any n.easure that would injure private indi viduals, without giving them an adequate recompense. I know that no public improvement can be effected, without in some way or other injurin g individuals, but I have al ways maintained, whether I happened to be a Grand Juror, or a Record Juror, that as far as money could rectify the damage, recompense should be given ; such are my feelings in reference to the 3 / 4 :iikenny Railroad Shareholders—though we will not consent to relinquish a ' great public object for their account, 1 conceive that they ought not to suffer in the spirited undertaking in which they have embarked.—(Cheers.) Mr. RICIIARD DowDEN said that it devolved upon him to propose for the adoption of the meeting the Petition to Parliament, founded upon the resolutions which had al ready been passed.—(Mr. Dowden here read the docu ment.) The Petition involved the general question, that with which the meeting ought in the main to meddle.— (Hear, hear.) The question had assumed a national cha racter. The objects to be created by the contemplated railway were national ; and it was beyond all doubt that the national resources of the country were prolific beyond cal_ culation ; hut they were loeked up ; they were undeveloped ; the people were without emp:oyment, Famine stalked through the land every fourth or fifth year ; and in place of Ireland being, upon an equality with England, she was rather an object of her charity than of her comp.eition.— ( Hear.) The Government were called upon rot to aban don to chance the undertaking reported upon by their ow n Commissioners. The public looked for such a line of pro ceeding upon their part, and if the Government would consult the best interests of the nation they would not he sitate a moment in causing the necessary advances to be made.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. DArelen then submitted the petition, and moved that it be confided for presentation to the City representatives. . Mr. JAMES LANE had great ple.isure in seconding the motion of his friend, Mr. Dowden. Mr. JAMES DALY, before the question was put upon the resolution, be4ged to say a few words upon one passage in the petition, which, he regretted to say, would entirely endanger the prospects of the great railroad now contemplated, unless Government became the sole prodrie tors. In his mind, the public money of the counties aid cities through which the trunk line would run could not be better appropriated than in advancing such an undertaking— the money to be borrowed from the Government on the se curity of the several localities ;. nor need they have a better plan of levying the money than that pointed out under the Poor Law Act—namely, half on the landlord, and half on the occupying tenant. Nothing was more mischievous than having the public roads vested in the hands of private indi viduals ; and he was anxious, in order to secure an identi fication upon the part of the Government, that the plan thrown out by him might be entertained. Mr. CRAWFORD looked upon the plan suggested by Mr. Daly as full of embarrassment. It had been so regarded by the Committee who had prepared the resolutioni and petition. It were better to leave the whole matter in the hands of the Government. such e bl Daly, r d r n sa e s fs seeing et onh t uta h itl a at t nadbd t a h lyes e( ba yar c nt a ce, r idv r e rldv d yioffisu i pci n deu t tkmi h ee e asr m r ec e rhyh, g a e io: r ib m jhpe ic o rste f he would address himself to th e o b servat i ons ma d e b y M r . ev who D u ded hcon tind, weimnerde i m —namely, the accomplishment of a main trunk of rail way through the land, by means of the public funds legiti mately applicable to such undertaking.—( Hear, hear.) The proposition of resorting to Grand Jury assessment, either to raise or to borrow the money necessary for such purposes, never could succeed ; nor ought to be resorted to.—( Hear.) He, (Mr. H.) had never joined in the unmeaning cry for the introduction of capital into Ireland for any purpose of carrying on the ord;nary purposes and objects of commerce or manufactures. He saw in the introduction of foreign capital for such purposes but the machinery by which the fair and natural profits of the trading community were ab stracted from those who ought to possess them—lrishmen, and transferred to strangers, to be eventually applied to ulterior purposes in which his country had no interest or concern.—(Cheers.) But the present was a case essen tially differing from that to which he had been referring. Here the capital would be so expended and fixed o I the face of the land, that to all future time it would be producing benefit to the people ; and on this account he looked at foreign capital as the most valuable adjunct - to those general views entertained by his friends to-d,ty, of developing the internal sources of wealth and prosperity' with which the Lind was teeming,—(Hear, hear.) Capital invested in this way in Ireland was in its effects very diffe rent from that which was called English capital invested in Banking concerns and Insurance agencies. The former, under the semblance of investing English capital, had, i n fact, abstracted from the country the native capital, and swept after it those profits which were consequent on Bank ing speculations, aid, in place of benefiting the country. did most materially tend to its impoverishment—so also with Insurance companies, carried on with English capital, as it was termed ; but which, in fact, consisted only of fifty pounds per annum, the rent of an office, by which thou sands following thousands were drawn away front us.— (Loud cheers.) The distinction was thus o bvious, and here he would encourage even foreign capital if it could b e o b tained. But there was no need to seek for foreign capital. The Committee, to-day, sought for the application of a ca pital, the common property of our common country. The resolution and petition were then put from the chair, and carried. Mr. J. D. CROKER—Mr. Mayor, as a country gentle man and landed proprietor, I propose the next resolution— " That this meeting earnestly call upon' the Proprietors, Agriculturists, and Traders interested in this great national object, to co-operate by meetings of Counties, Cities, and Towns, in aid of their proceedings, and that the Noblemen and Members of Parliament connected with the South of Ireland be requested also to give their support to the memo. rial, adopted this day." I heartily concur in the petition and resolutions, and shall endeavour to get a meeting in Madovv ; and as the line will be across the Blackwater, through the Clyda where my property is situate, I shall gladly give my portion without seeking damages, and I am sure many other landed proprietors will do the same.—(Cheers.) Mr. J. E. M`CAramr, Rathduane, seconded the reso lution. Sir . T. DEANE—A resolution has just been put into my hand of such a nature that I could not but come forward and propose it. It is— " That and laborioushatthism meeting assiduity gbolds displayed injus in the Report o her just estimation thetalenti in- Majesty's Commissioners, not only as it refers to a sy ßail wa y commun i cat i on , b ut as com bi n i ng a collection of statistical facts and details of the highest value and importance regardi ng t h e genera l con di t i on o f t h e coun try ; and that his Worship th e M ayor b e requeste d t o c on v ey these our senti ments to Thomas Drummond, Esq., the senior Commissioner, to be by him communicated to the Board." Mr. CHARLES CONNELL, J.P., seconded the resolution. Mr. Qum, having been called upon by the meeting, then rose and said—Mr. Mayor and Gentlemen, I must premise by saying that, in my opinion, from what I know of Mr. Drummond, and of the other gentlemen who have co operated with him in the business of this Report, that never were thanks better deserved than those to which you give expression in this resolution. Well do I know the labour which they have devoted to the arduous duty entrusted to them by the Crown, the results of which we have in the book and the map now before me. Ido not stand here as a representative of the Government. Indeed the Govern ment could have no representative upon this subject, until they bh o aid see what the country was disposed to do with reference to this Report. When they find the great land owners coming forward as Mr. Dillon Croker has done this day, stating their willingness to give those portions of their property through which the proposed lines of railway are to pass, to the great enterprise in question. I have no doubt at all that Government will act without delay upon the re commendations of the Commissioners. Sr W. BECIIEIt—I have conversed with a great number of country gentlemen, all of whom are anxiou s for railrodds, and I am sure that there is not one of them who would not be inclined to make a bargain to his own personal advan tage, and give a liberal invita•ion to the Government to pass through his g round.—(Cheers.) I must say, in the same candour, that I shall be extremely happy to join in the general expression, as my desire is that something should be done for the good of the country, and though I deny that good can arise on some disputed questions from agita tion, yet on this general question I am an " agitator."— (Laughter and cheering.) Mr. QUINN—The Duke of Leinster and several other noblemen and gentlemen are preparing an address to the Crown, 'ailing on the Government to carry on the rail road.—(Cheers.) I believe that address will be soon sent throughout the country, and then the landowners will have an opportunity of pledging themselves to do that which Sir W. Wrixon Becher• and Mr. Croker have, with so much honour to themselves, expressed their willin3ness to do. Mr. S. LANG—I think we are deeply indebted for the communication which the gentleman has niade,—( H ear. ) It amounts to this, that if the landed gentry of the country do their duty, the Government will make the roads.— (Hear, hear.) Mr. MSAGHER—I have received a number of letters from country gentlemen, among the rest from Lord Lis towel], evincing their anxiety to aid the project.--(Hear.) Mr. DowDEN—I am happy that we have arrived with such unanimity to the last resolution. If the Government determines on establishing a railroad, it may be necessary that some persons be appointed to communicate on the part of the public with the Commisioners, with the view of giving and procuring information. I therefore tske leave to propose— " That a Committee of twenty-one be appointed by this meeting to be in communication with the Government Com missioners, and to state to them such local information on the details of the proposed Railroad, as may seem to them indis pensable." I propose that the following Gentlemen form a portion of the Committee :—The Mayor, Mr. Daniel Callaghan,M.P., Mr. Beamish, M.P., Sir William Chatterton, Bart., Sir Thomas Deane, Knt., Alderman Spearing, Alderman Bag nell, Messrs. William Crawford, Samuel Lane, Topp, James Lane, Joseph Hayes, William Fagan, Michael Ro berts, Thomas P. Boland, Paul M'Swiney, James Daly, Charles Connell, John APNatnara, Daniel Meagher, M. H. Conway, &c. &c. The resolution was put from the Chair and passed, with permission to the country gentlemen to attend the meetings of the Committee. His Worship then left the Chair, which was taken by Sir W. Becher ; when Mr. Meagher said be had the honour of proposing the thanks of the meeting to the Mayor for his d;gnified conduct in the Chair, and his anxiety to pro mote the objects of the meeting. The meeting then separated. MONEY AND CITY NEWS. (FROM THE MORNING PAPERS OF THIS DAT.) TIM ES.—A very general impression prevails in the Money-market that sonic measures are in contemplation in the Bank parlour for creating greater facilities in regard to money. Some notice on the subject was fully expected after the weekly meeting held to-day, but it has not yet appeared, and some persons are inclined to think that a difference of opinion has arisen in the matter among the Directors. As far as can be collected, the intention seems to have been to make permanent that arrangement by Which accommodation is at present given on the deposit of bills of exchange, from the shutting of the books at the Bank to the payment of the dividends, and which is pro posed to be done at the rate of 3 or 31 per cent. No one can doubt, who understands the question, that any attempt at this moment to increase the issues of paper on the part of the Bank by any other means than those created by the natural demands of trade must have an injurious effect, and the affairs of the Bank have been conducted with so much prudence since the crisis, that it is difficult to imagine, but for the confidence with which these statem-nts are publicly n ade, that any such intention exists. The coun try circulation is of itself, notwithstanding the reduction that has taken place since the last return, more than it ought to be, so that discreet bankers in the manufacturing districts are beginning to draw in their loans ; and to take a contrary course by the Bank would be to add fuel to the tire. which otherwise would be quietly extingui%hed. The reports relative to the proceedings at the weekly Board at the Bank of England, held to-day, had the effect of slightly improving the Funds. Consols left off at 938 to 4 for Money and the Account. Bank Stock was 2031 to 41 ; India Stock, 2611 to 28 ; Exchequer Bills, 645. to 665. premium. There was a little speculation in Spanish Bonds, arising out of some proceedings taken by the Committee of Bond holders in Paris, against funds supposed to be in the hands of the house of Rothschild, then belonging to the Spanish Government. The bonds, however were little affected by the report ; the Active, with the May coupons, left off at l 7 to ; Portuguese 5 per Cents, 31i to ;,- i t ; the 3 per Cents, 201 to 4 ; Brazilian, 78 to / ; Mexican, 21 to 2 ; Colombian, 231 to 1 ; Dutch 5 per Cents, 100?,- ; the 2i per Cents, 534 to H. The Share Market was dull. Great Western 12/ to 131 ; London and Birmingham 84 to 5 ; North Midland, 2to 3 ; Southampton New, 21 to 2 premium. B r ighton declined to 2a to ; Blackwall were I ; Greenwich, 34 to 24 discount. _ _ Along report had been published by the Bank Commis. sioners touching the situation of the affairs of the Missis sippi and Alabama Railroad Company, carrying on the business also of bankers at Brandon, the failure of which, with peculiar circumstances attending it, was formerly al luded to. In this document some extraordinary disclosures are made, which serve to throw more light still on the way in which banking business has been got up and managed in the United States. Assuming that all the bills running and receivab!e, which amounted to upwards of 5,700,000 dol lars, were or would be paid—a consummation not very pro bable—there would seem to be a surplus, inclusive of the capital stock taken as liabilities, of 450,000 dollars. But, besides the bills on hand, a considerable amount of the reniutong part of the resources, which together were about 3,000,000 dollars, was of quite as questionable a value as the bills " rec4ivable." It consisted, in fact, of balances under the heads of " Stock mortgages, due f.om banks, cotton account, advances on cotton receipts,cotton agencies, railroad expenditure," and carious other items, which may he considered more available, although the sunis are trivial. It is stated that the total quantity of cotton shipped on account of the Bank might be calculated at 60,000 bales, and the balance left on hand 5,750. At the date of the Commissioners' Report, in August last, no account of sales had been received, but the Bank had been advised of sales of 6,400 bales, at prices which would produce nearly 50 dols. per bale, being not far from the averap rate of purchase. The paper circulation of the Brandon Bank amounted to more than 4,850,000 dols. upon a specie basis of just 9,015 dols. at the time of stoppage. So preposterous a disproportion ought surely to open the eyes of the American people to the vices inherent in any paper s)stem where no respon sibility existed for issues. Here was a Bank speculating and able to speculate, had the capital stock been paid up, to an indefinite extent, in cottons and provisions. Even as it was, speculation might have gone on for years, and a monopoly of the most grinding description been imposed both on the trading and producing com munity, hut for the resumption of specie payments in New York and elsewhere, by which the domestic exchanges were so raised against the non-resuming Banks as seriously to impair their credit. Such was the case with the Brandon Bank. Resumption was out of the question, and with the stoppage of credit a stop was put to its illimitable paper issues, and at last, having no specie, or funds convertible into specie, it was fortunately brought to a stand-still in its mischievous career. CHRONICLE.—Affairs at the Stock Exchange con tinue to look better. It was generally expected that a notice would have been issued at the Bank to-day, after the meeting of the Directors, in reference to a reduction in the rate of discount charged at that institution, but nothing of the kind was made known, and Consols conse quently remain the same as 3esterday. Attention is again becoming much directed in the city to the distressing state of the silk-weavers of Spitalfields. In the course of the last winter these unfortunate people, to the number of nearly 20,000 souls, were almost all un employed, and lived upon charity alone. This miserable condition of so great a number of the metropolitan population, it is feared, will be greatly increased as the winter approaches ; for not only is the silk manu facture becoming so much depressed that hundreds of the weavers are daily thrown out of employment, but this falling off in the business is commencing at a season when the necessaries of life are already very high and expected to be still considerably higher in the course of the winter months. If formerly the Spitalfields weavers have been almost a continual burden to the poor-rates and charities of the metropolis, there is little doubt that the expense of supporting them will be now very greatly in creased, and that also at a time when the rate-payers are themselves amidst all the difficulties of increased expenses for housekeeping, and a great reduction in the profits of general trade. Such a spectacle as that of twenty thou sand silk-weavers in a state of continual destitution is thought in the city to be anything but a confirmation of the opinion of some of the leading politicians, that the Corn laws " work well ;" the Corn-laws alone being perfectly well known to be the only reason why England does not take to itself the whole of the silk manufactures of the world. A preliminary meeting. we are informed, took place at the City of London Tavern on Tuesday, to take into con sideration the necessity of colonizing the Filkland Islands, and is said to have been well attended. A letter from Lord Glenelg was read, stating on wi!at terms the Government would grant a charter to enable a Company to carry the undertaking into effect. POST. —There has bet n an impressi on i n t h e pu b l i c mind that the Bank Direction interest id co n t emp l ate d a re duction in the ra te of ; but alth oug h no not i ce to that effect has been officially issued from the Bank this day, it is pretty well undr-.‘tood that th e B an k Di rect i on , purpose to co ntinue the is; .,, Jf interest upon discounts at 34 per cent., and upon loans at 4 per cent, u n til the opening Consols of in January next. Constls in consequence hate not closed so firmly as they opened in the morning, though t h e political aspects of the cou n t ry may h ave something to do with this heaviness. H ERA LD.—lt has been stated this day in some of the leading mercantile circles, by parties who are likely to be well informed upon the subject, that the blockade of Buenos Ayres by the French has been raised, and it is conse- quently anticipated that the raising of the blockade of M e xico, and the other dep en d ent ports, will immediately follow, as its continuance would evidently tend to bring the Governments of France and the United States into se rious collision. The final settlement of this dispute will of course, have a very beneficial effect upon the commerce I between the Mexican and Argentine States and Europe.' as well al that of the United States. It is understood that merchint versels have been chartered for those ports in consequence. Money continues very easy upon the Stock Exchange, and some large sums have been advanced upon Consols and other Securities from day to day at 2 per cent. The Go vernment Commissioners have laid out about 20,0001. ster ling to-day, about one-half in the Threc-and-a-Half per Cent. Reduced, and the other moiety in the fixed Annuities on account of the Savings 13,inks. Shares have been but in little request, and there has not been much alteration in the quotations. THE BISHOPS OF DURHAM AND NORWICH. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. Srtt,—l beg to draw the attention of your readers to a subject which the Tory Press has lately been wearing threadbare, and seems not yet disposed to cast off, in its eagerness to patch up the rents and tatters of bigotry. I allude to the case which has been got up against the Bishops of Durham and Norwich. 0 scelus incrcthbile, el prceter hoc ?MUM in vita inaziditunt !" These " mitred liber tines," we have been told, " have inflicted upon public de cency an insolent and unbearable outrage," &c. Your readers are probably aware that their crime has been subscription to a proposed publication of Sermons by Mr. Turner, an Unitarian minister of Newcastle. The heinousness of the offence is not very palpable to men who both claim and allow free agency in matters of religion, where no direct injury can result from it to society. To such men the mere naked charge is nugatory enough. Nor would the simple act of subscribing to a volume of Ser mons, were they disposed to he inquisitorial, amount in their minds to a pledge of indiscriminate approval of all the opinions that might happen to be contained in them. But in this case there are circumstances of a justifying ten dency to which little attention has been paid. Mr. Turner, to my knowledge, is a veteran of fifty years' standing in the successful service of science and humanity,-: and has contri buted eminently to the intellectual at least, if not moral im- Dovement of a widely extended district of the Bishop of Durham's diocese. Was the meed, when solicited, of the Diocesan's approbation of such distinguished merits to be withheld from considerations of theological controversy ? Is not the tree to be judged of by the fruit? and can a tree which has brought forth so much good fruit be indeed very corrupt, and fit only to be hewn down by the ecclesiastical axe, and cast into the expurgatory fire ? Abstractedly of Mr. Turner's merits, the character of Socinus himself', the reputed founder of the Unitarian sect, is a refutation of the prejudice against their creed, which is expressed in that courteous description, " pestilent heresy, and soul-destroying error." According to the Ecclesiastical historian, " Mos-1 heim Leelius Socinus was a man of uncommon genius and learning ; to which he added, as his very enemies are obliged to acknowledge, the lustre of a virtuous life and of unble mished manners. His mild and gentle disposition rendered him averse from whatever had the air of contention and dis cord." What, moreover, were the characters of Grotius, Le Clerc, Sir Laac Newton, Locke, and Dr. Lardner ? Did not these Unitarians shed an intellectual and moral lustre upon human nature itself? The savage intolerance which has recently been manifested against the mere tolera tion of opinions, boasting the patronage of such names as these, is worthy only of that theological spirit which in the 16th century persecuted Servetus to death. That the Bishops of Durham and Norwich are perfectly justifiable in the course they have taken is demonstrable by historical Las and precedents, a specimen of which has lately been collected by a member of the Church of England, of no mean order, in a pamphlet, addressed as a letter to Dr. Hook, on the Athanasian Creed. The Church of England is at present placed in the awkward position of a house di vided against itself, from which it can never be extricated so long as mere ecclesiastical dogmatism rules its counsels. Near one hundred years ago Bishop Warburton com plained : " To be assaulted with all the rude clamours and opprobrious names that bigotry is every ready to bestow on those it fears and hates, was the fortune of all my betters, of Hooker, Hales, Stillingfleet, Cudworth, Bishop Taylor, who were called politiques, sceptics, Erastians, Deists, and Atheists." Dr. Barrow also, near 200 years ago, com plained : " A considerable cause of our divisions hath been the broaching of scandalous names, and employing them to blast the reputation of worthy men, bespattering and aspersing them with insinuations, &c., engines devised by spiteful, and applied by simple people—latitudinarians, rationalists, and I know not what other names intended for reproach, although importing better signification than those dull detractors can, it seems, discern."—l am, Sir, your humble servant, CLERICUS. YORKSHIRL. (FROM OUR CORRESPONDKNT.) YORK, OCT. 24.—0 n Sunday last the Venerable Archbishop of this dioce , e preached his Farewell Sermon in the noble Cathedralof the See, before a crowded congre gat:on. Earl De Grey, and the officers and men of his regiment, the Yorkshire Hussars (who are at present in fronting there) were present, and Lord Milton, M.P., with nearly all the members of the Harcourt family, were among the auditors. The Archbishop has attained his 84th year, and he told his flock that •he felt he had arrived at that period of life when it was necessary for him to abstain from preaching. He said that it was probable that they now heard his voice for the last time, and affectionately urged upon them the duties of religion. With respect to the coming Municipal Elections, it is to be feared that the Tories will be able to complete their triumph, and degrade the Old Whig City of York, by the establishment of an unmixed Tory Corporation. If the Liberals, however, be united and active, they will yet be able to foil their plans. It is thought that the present Lord Mayor (Mr. Hudson) will be re-elected ; and among his party it would be difficult to find a better. Several most material improvements are in progress in the city ; and the opening of the Great North of England Railway, and the York and North Midland Line, is expected to add new energies to the commerce of York. A bridge is about to be thrown over the river Ouse to meet the railways ; and the all glorious east window of the minster—unequalled in beauty, size, and grandeur in the world—is about to be thrown open to public view by the removal of a row of va luable houses—which the Council, and Dean and Chapter, have with much liberality sacrificed, to exhibit the beauties of the church. The admirers of Westminster might take a hint from this. Last night there was a meeting of the friends of NA TIONAL EDUCATION held here, Samuel Tuke, Esq., took the Chair, and the meeting was addressed by the Rev. Mr. Abney, the Rev. James Parsons (well known as one of the most distinguished ornaments of the Dissenting Pul pits in England), and Mr. Pearce, Editor of the Yorkshire man. Mr. Cornwall, of the British and Foreign School Society was present, and delivered a powerful and impres sive address. The question of national education must be seriously taken up by the whole nation. SPORTING IN TE.LLIGEN CE. TATTERSALL' S—YEsrEnnA t. A thin attendance, and only one bet of 15 to 1 agst Mr. Wreford's Westonian (afterwards offered), to prevent it being a blank day. The Newmarket Houghton Meeting commences on Monday next. LATEST BETTING AT MANCHESTER. DERBY BETTING. 10 to 1 agst Lord Jersey's Brother to Bay Middleton—take 11 16 to 1 agst Lord Lichfield's Gulnare colt 17 to 1 agst Duke of Rutland's Flambeau—tak. to a large stake 20 to 1 agst Brother to Plenipo 20 to 1 agst Mr. Bowes's Epidemus, brother to Elis—take 25 500 to 15 agst Mr. Greville's Derrinane—taken 200 to 5 ag,t Lord Suffield's Vernon—taken 1000 to 20 agst Dragsman—taken 400 to 20 agst Sir G. Heathcote's lot—taken 100 to 3 agst Mr. Dixon's Maria colt 200 to 5 agst Colonel Anson's Zimmerman 200 to 4 agst Mr. E. Peel's Dey of Algiers 100 to 3 agst Lord Jersey's Ilderim—taken 100 to 3 agst Lord Jersey's Cain cAt—taken 15 to 1 agst Algiers and Deception coupled THE sr. LEGEIt. 8 to 1 agst Mr. Blakelock's Commodore—take 9 11 to 1 agst the Apothecary—taken Scott's lot backed at a shade beyond 3 to 8 The Countess of Pembroke and the Ladies Herbert are entertaining a family party at the Noble Earl's seat,Wilton House, near Salisbury. Earl and Countess Bruce, Lord and Lady Ernest Bruce, Mr. Sydney Herbert, and also some members of the Bouverie family, are among the visitants. " TIIE EMPEROR'S SON. ” —The most interesting and effective fictions have ever been those which are founded on personal themes; and never was a theme of this nature more deeply aff , cting, and at the slme time more strangely romantic, than the fate of " The Emperor's Son"—the young and unhappy Duke of Riechstadt. The f,rthcoming Romance so called is, we un'erstand, the production of a Lady belong.. ing to one of the highest families in the country, and her qualifications for the interesting task she has undertaken, are said to be singularly well adapted to the subject she has chosen. More salmon have been taken in the Wye this season than for many years past. In former years very few persons took more than 8 or 10 fish ; but this year the well.. known fishing blacksmith has taken with the fly 75 salmon between Glasbury and Builth, and a gentleman residing on the banks of Wye has caught upwards of 50. The writer of this article saw 17 fish taken at two hauls. If this beau tiful river were protected from the poachers, it would becom e one of the best frequented by anglers in the united kingdom At the Hay, at the Three Cocks , Glasbury, and at B u il t! : and Rhayader , excellent inns offer the most comfortable Sc. c otnmodation for anglers, with ver,, , moderate charges._ Wor. cote,. Journal. STATE OF IRELAND. (FRAM OUR CORRISPONDLNT.) " John Knox, as I recollect, used to say, art-r St. Paul, that all things were for the elect, and that the people were t?/ elect; and thus, by a false assumption, and an abuse of Hell Writ, he arrived at a political truth—but one wilich is never reduced to practice."—Dr. DoTLE. DUBLIN, OCT. 24. In venturing to give some particulars connected with the your present state of Ireland, I do not profess to supplY Journal with the earliest information of murder and publ ic meetings, which are by many folks regarded as the greatest news, if not the most interesting intelligence. Such " in ' munications, however agreeable to many of your readers, arc not within the scope of my undertaking ; nor were thel contemplated by you when you expressed a willingness t° render your ind e p en d en t and widely-circulating Journal the medium of such sound and accurate information as w° ll f best illustrate public opinion in Ireland. Besides , a ll sort °f news alluded to, both real and fictitious, is conveyed to the metropolis and good people of England through other tha n ; nels. There are in this city and different other p arts Ireland some very respectable branches of the " Fourth Estate," whose duty and pleasure seem to consist in elaho' rate descriptions of the " State of the Country," made 11 1 ) equally from facts and fictions. In the course of my 013 e nervations I shall take the liberty of alluding to such fact and fictions, only so far as they may serve to e xplain r e ., l object, IN-Lich is to give a fair and impartial report of pub° opinion as it comes within my vier" at this critical period. ca l I believe it is pretty generally admitted that the condition of this country is in a state of transitio n, and the' the future prospects of the empire at large depend yr! the tranquillity of this and some other of its more importan, members and dependencies. For some years past this v ie s , of state affairs has been forcing itself upon the considea tion of all our politicians and economists ; and accordingly we find at this moment no public writer or orator who does not, by his essays and effusions, corroborate these iniPr e . s c i sions. Indeed one of the evils apprehended by the rim l Tories, or which they affect to fear, from the rapi d mar e of events, is the speculations arising out of this state things ; for, the least alarmed and most rational of thel:4l say,—What between railways, tithe-laws, poor-laws, ee election-laws, we are likely to have established so ma i ; agents, boards, and commissioncr.hips, as will lay the foune e : tion of more jobbing, canvassing, and corruption than existed under the old system. That such evils are to h e apprehended, if not vigorously counteracted by the O r !, vigilant spirit of Reform, no man can doubt ; and there 1 not, probably, in the whole catalogue of difficulties enc env o passing the present Government, any one circumstance , embarassing as that involved in the suspicion that To r /a practices will become prevalent in the necessary mac hi n ery ee n. workings of Reform. I repeat it, there is not any one circa: it stance so likely to undermine the popularity of th e Preseit, Whig Government in Ireland, as the fact of their o ' 4 : tingly, perhaps, following the practice of their adversarled in ti,e di-trA.u'ion of their patronage. In no other can the Marquis of Normanby forfeit the well-earne d ° d i fiilence reposed in him by the people of Ireland. 1 30 t ° ne t is the state of things, that it will be difficult to avoid , s e 7 o f or later, falling into an error which the best dispose it his predecessors could not even for a season escape' er , seems to be the fate of Ireland to be unsusceptible o f f tio , manent benefits, even at the hands of her most di guished and devoted friends. c ur These thoughts have been suggested by the dailY.°°- of e rences happening in every part of the British domle!negae-e which, however, the most important and interestinb,r-be those domestic ones under immediate observation . , r , s l, Acts of the last session of Parliament, relative to Ire'a-ey though unquestionably devised and passed with there leer best intentions, are likely to produce but a small s ha er that immediate quiet and content which their fram ers „ c o re templated ; and the reason is simply this—because the/ to but niggard instalments of the long debt of justice d ue ( 10 poor Ireland. For, unless something like a generous COea of civil, religious, and municipal rights be conceded' and the whole system of administration here be altered, co o fundamental abuses, from which the minor grievsl3tbe issue, be eradicated, and the Go% ernment exe rcised fe r fe e good of the people at large, instead of for the benefit of tie s, who happen to become personally known to the authoo re, there can be no lasting peace, confidence, securi t y , 1101. in pose. No Government seeking to administer the law s o f the present state of society can retain the charaeter etbe thought or wisdom ; because these laws, falling t shortot or tea just demands and wants of the nation, are not tto with even that moderate share of respect and gratituo°„ie which they are fairly entitled. I should except from 7 11 , denunciation the provision for the poor, which, On ' to standing some new g rounds of prejudice, to be adverted re. presently, is very acceptable to the most industrious an, ja i, fleeting part of the community, and will meet a fair 'rity But the proof ofmy general proposition is visible in the ala,,er,,, with which the whol country is responclng to M e nell's call for further agitation. When he first annou tle : his intention of formine the Precursor Society, the PreP rL e a s was treated with compar a tiv e coo l ness ant i indiff eren ce. 4' 6 soon, however, as th e na t ure o f t h e new Tithe -law becalo generally known, and it was discovered that amongst th eight Assistant Poor Law Commisioners four only wer Irishmen, and non e o f th em o f t he religion o f the p eogie on whom the burden of taxation must fall most heal though some persons of that persuasion, wi th confe.st,7l, superior qualificati ons , are k no wn to have been candida t as soon as this information went abroad it is incredible :00'e a change came over the minds of the nation. great body of the people, always ready to adopt anY gestion from Mr. O'Connell, but persons adverse feltnitwit of his proceedings, and to the agitation of Repeal, iig et there was still occasion for its continuance. A n ew . e ible seems to have broken in upon us, showing how imP' ear sy it is for any, even the best-disposed, Government to : qu i, into effect the quantity of Reform and improvement r o ll's site for the permanent tranquillity of Ireland. OConoto carver for some time past has gone far to remov e the has e entor o d Not onlYsor prejudice against him ; his late letters, and particularieree last, in which he lays down the principles on which the. _ te a cursor Society is to be established, very much to this, and many persons nolv i r t ties him as deserving to be the arbiter of the °e a s e ad of this country. He invites Liberals pf every sba Tre isoti colour not et satisfied with the reform granted to ' O O 5 to join him; and he requires only two millionslof P r t a tio n ' in order to attain hi s obj e cts. From the best infor; elist from all parts, I am enabled to state that he w ill he: e el it number before the middle of the next Session. Su°, tat be insufficient, it is probable it will be doubled befer e a v st year 1840. With such numbers, then, knocking.l°;:os os.. the portals of the Constitution, and under a in clic to f °rr e ministration of the funds supplied by them, it is easy -oritise see the concessions which must be wrested from any peet r Cabinet, no matter how composed ; for the greates arties liarity in the features of th e p re sent time is, that P tt a, P c j i admit the necessity of a new order of things in 1r1 0 , 0 % fact, some persons say that Whigs have become .I°- c ert' Tories become Whigs. A n d thi s is proveable to sol6 extent, by the declarations of Sir Robert Peel, grbeetle• and other of that party. The former Right 1 1 °T he man boasted on a late occasion, that, standing o n ""P o f t site side of the house, lie was supporting the ve ryape ciples which the Whigs, when out of office, used todsoissioos from the very same benches. Mr. Shaw's of b e l e amounted to the same thing, when, in the dis elt°r % - e ot t ,',l civic . duties the other day, he told the Lord leien te : e cle c e ' times had passed away when such a policy as that in 1" t° by Henry 11., in appoietieg " his men of Br io) to bei f the Corporation of Dublin, need be any long er bothr ° These are admissions and declarations indicative sotil the signs of the times and of the Tory tact in P o r e r, on the nation's credulity. The Spectator 11 0151)9 ;v 111 , - ai , many other branches of what was once deem ed t 1 0. '0 pendent Bess, have taken much pains of late lea tr cate the same doctrine throughout the country' e e people should be put upon their guard against s jas tr e , tion. ,ern sions ; and they are quite awake, ready to reee ire se ot he ir me T nt he a y n m d progre ss ' wolv eg aythbeierconmeecedssisasrailtyisfiseidowwith the Pre het te ia s s i tt ie re e l p ec s ne e v in e t r h w in i g ll , be or p rr rt: , v r a ic i . l s ed pr u o p f %n sin to g. tole rate wi p rin ,i c i P t h ie d h e oe la te Irishmen, at least, will be long grateful for the ss the , have received front their present rulers ; and un ,, l r e °J oe ter fall too deeply into Tory practices, they nev-eeleit° our don them for their adversaries. While we r s - es siotb e to disappointment at the Tithe Act of the list gjoiStriheir cannot be insensible to the effects of the presen t t oe t ''„ e r, obtain for us better terms ; and provided they °fie coup e it desire to increase measures of melioration to tn. eo the people will never desert them. At tho sir; eo ee s ee must confessed that there is a spirit of in tel is e vei ll4l3 hy independence now in existence under the t u blic do , of which no Government can delude the t r to en' false profe.sions, as th e y h ee e been w °ll o be and On the other heed, limo rople will se.,_ ° oo o e _ t e abled to select from the st honest, enlig h u ose priv t 7 ci independent men of all parties, those men r i ir eMe i ee ts and public lives are the best guerentee in the public service. While the of ti f e the ir 11 1 1 1 0 preVaICOCC of fort oof and principles excludes no man, they s hould a . top eter s pe d encouragement to the mere " drummers and t.' be 11° t ee k t toe party to desert their old comrades. /a.m. it t h o se _ in that when the time for choosing shall arriivi Lave bebentbe hers only of the Whig party whose favo urpract ic ' keeping with their professions, will find elate rrithef of th ti Ve public. There is one circumstance arising out re do lon a, Commutation Act, which will be pr ob . ti . lely . ,P o f the ~ a re some advantage to the Liberal cause. Ateaeujeerneeenet vves lords of Ireland f a vourable to the present etericY6t than it about to convert this law into it greater .b ,cadi , he epe_ de , at first expected to be to the country. I ._ . l , l e izat end in of the most respected gentry of the et.v" :etee tioli' Wexford signified their pendent County of