The Sun. — London, England, 1838-06-01 00:00:00

NEGRO EMANCIPATION. " DRUMMING" IN NEW YOB.K. MEETING OF DELEGATES. The Delegates met on Wednesday at .the Guildhall Coffee.house, place. Mr. BLAIR in. the Chair.,` • Mr. PEASE had a resolution to propose, which he thought might have an eff - vet upon the , Ministers, that would materially strengthen the A oae s • It was to the effect that if the colonists did not of themselves .emaacipate their apprentices on the Ist of August, the friends of the negroes wouli renew their applications to Parliament, as well as their ex,irtions in general. He was of opinion that some such resolution would serve as an intimation to the Ministers, and through them to the colonists, that they would not get rid of the anti-slavery annoyance until the grand object was attained. They should also make it known that the agitation would continue in the meantime. The Rev. Mr. BITNTING seconded the resolution. Mr. G. TIIOAPSON thought it would hold out to the Ministers the no. Can that the delegates would do nothing for 10 or 1. months. _after some observations from Mr. Clare, Mr. Bunting, and Mr. Stan field, (of Belfast, not Cork, as we said erroneously yesterday) the follow ing resoiution was passed by way of amendment : I. That the Delegates pledge themselves to use every exertion in aid of Lord Brougham's effort to annihilate the Apprenticeship System in the British Colonies, by the Bill he has brought forward in the Upper Hon a ef Parliament. Sir. Scrams, held in his hand a parliamentary document which was laal en the table of the House cf Commons, the day before Sir Eardley enotrois. The object of presenting these papers at that par. ti tiler time was to give Hon. Members a text, on which they' might in. I roduce an attack upon the state gents of his excellent friend (Mr. J.) and himself. Sir Robert Peel referred to them to show that persons who went out to the colonies to collect information, were not always correct, and that as it was so in the case of Mr. Scobel, it might be so in that of others. Sir Robert quoted some remarks of Mr. Scobel to Sir J C. Smith, the Governor in British Guiana, respecting the administra tion of the law in one district, under a special justice of the name of Kermick. He (Mr. Scobel) had stated that the special justice passed e _44(1,411)1gal sentences, which gave the planters tremendous power—that he indicted pecuniary fines, and that he elso allowed the medical men to put in the stocks persons afflicted with sores. He (Mr. Scobsl). had further stated that the justice had thereby become a great favourite with the planters, uho had built him a house bought him a boat, and subscribed money to supply with two men to man his boat. Now, it appeared that in one of t statements he (Mr. S) was in error. The boat had been bought betas the apprenticeship system. But all the other fa. is were uncontradicted, end undeniable. Yet upon this ground the candid Sir Robert Peet. sta - ed that his assertions were not to be relied on. :feveral Delegates said—Oh, whas special pleading. alr. BUNTING said, surely the exception proves the correctness el' the other more important statements ; for if they could they would hove contradicted them.—(Hear, hear.) .g r. Scoaea continued—The moot unfair advantage had been taken in these papers of his private and confidential intercourse with the Go. vernor, whom he had visited ear express invitation urged upon him again and again. He stated to the Goternor that he did not appear as the accuser of the special justice and the medical men ; bat that he had come to observe what passed in the colony, winch he would report upon his return home. Xs:vantage was taken of that .intarview, and his oillhend statements were cemmunicated to the parties impacated, who set about to procure evidence in contradiction ; but in the end of the inquiry all his statements score corroborated excatat that about the boat.—(Hear, hear.) He vaas afterwards reqiiestel by the Governor to transmit to him suggestion_ to improve the cetelition of the negoeg. He (Mr. S.) did so, :aid the Governor thought some if his suggestions so important, that he sent out circulars recommending them fir adoption; and respecting others he issued an °retina:see, which, however, had not been acted upon (Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Scobel) received a letter from the Governor, which was marked private and confidential; upon which he wrote some remarks—of course cm - Wu:ens fiat as the l_ttcr itself—but from those remaras the Governor made ex tracts, upon which he wrote comments, to take off the edge. —O-lesr, hear, hear.) It was said that he was treated by the Governor with courtesy and attention—that he laid open all the public records, and thereby exposed to him the whole state of the colony. Now, the fact was, that ie two months after Iris arrival he re ceived a memorandum from the Governor to the effect that the pubise records were open to him. He applied accordingly for some returns ; hut in a few days afacrwal do he re :dyed information through a private channel that the returns wore sent to the Secretary's office, according to his :Mr. S.'s) request ; but that his Excellency sent a suspension of the order, because it had in the meantime been discovered that the pub. lication of the returns svoul.t give such an expesure of colonial (non mi. tree, as WOlll4l give the friends of the negro great power over the autho. cities. He manly another application—to which he received answer that as he was only a private individual, the Governor did not think he would be justified in entrusting the papers to him —(011, oh.) fterbice he made minute inquiries as to the working of the syatein in salt district, arid he brought to light many great atrocities. Ha lees the alietri - et, however, before he heard of any steps having been taken to pros , cute him, upon any charges arising out of his conduct there. But he had scarcely arrived in Demerara, when he found that he had been charged with acts of sedition in Berbice.—(Hear, and a laugh.) He wa4 charged with having met delegates from the several plantations, and with having given them advice which might lead to insurrection. 'hose charges were communicated to the Governor, with a suggestion that he (Mr. Si should not be allowed to leave the colony without be brought to trial, and to condign punishment. By order of the Goverhor a Court of Inquiry was held, and voluminous evidence was taken. But the negroes were not to be coerced or suborned to give false eridenee against him; and in the end, the whole matter fell to the grouna.—(Hear, hear, hear.) The negroes who were brought to give evitence against him, gave evidence against their masters.—(Hear.) Having uneerstood, however, that in the course of the inquiry many of the eases which he hasf discovered had been corroborated Icy tire evi armee, he applied to the Governor for a copy of the procee.lines. But this was refused. But the Governor admitted that the evidence estab. lashed that he (Mr. S.) had soothed the minds of the negroes, and had per, traded them to hear their sufferings with patience until they could get legal redress. After complimenting bins for this, the Govereor told him that he had sent back the copy of the' evidence to the Sheriff of Berbire.—(hear, and a laugh.) He mentioned those facts merely to show that instead of his receiving every accommodation, the fact wits the contrary, and every difficulty had been thrown in his way.—(Hear.) Mr. S et - RGE then said, that in the "- :slue book" to which his friend had alluded, there was (he understood) some reference made to a co, repontienee which took place respecting theattempt to force the children ro become apprentices for '2l years, without the consent of their parents. When he saw that this was the case, he was induced to interfere, contrary to the rule he had laid down for himself. He wrote to the Governor's secretary, who had an interview with him, and did not deny tine fact that there was such a scheme on foot to apprentice the children, al. though not for twenty-one years. He (Mr. Sturge) wrote home to the Colonial Office, from which subsequently a communication was sent to the Colonial Government. The Solicitor-General, in reply, referred to speeehes which he had made upon the subject before, to make it appear that the whole was false.—(Hear, hear.) He held in his hand a let ter from a person resident in the colony, who said to him :—' " It was owing to your interference, under Divine Providence, that the scheme was defeated."—(Hear, hear. ) He (Mr. S.) was ready to prove to any im partial jury that such a scheme was actually in contempl2tion.—(Heae.) Sime amusing things had been brought against him in the House of Commons. The Governor complained of his want of courtesy in not accepting his invitations to dinner ; and, on the other hand, John Ewart Gladstone complained that he had accepted the hospitality of the planters, and had violated the confidence of hospitality. He challenged any one to show onesingle instance in which he had dose Bear)—and in fact, under the circumstances in which he then was, he had rather dine with the negro, ender his tree, upon hair a yam, than with the planter in all his luxury.—(Hear.) Again, it was stated that he had been in error as to the punishment; in prison ; but the fact was proved by a communication front the Marquis of Sligo—who at least ought to be attended to—the communication was dated the - ),lst February 537, and it appeared from it that the whip was still in the hands of con demned convicts--Wear)—and that all the horrors detailed in Wil liam's Narrative were then in operatou.—(Hcar.) Mr.ScoaEncon firmed what had been said by his friend Mr. Sturge, and stated that when he was in Barbadoes, it was currently reported. that the children were to be apprenticed, and that an Act would be introduced for that purpose.— ( Hear.) A conversation having arisen respec , ieg the current rumour that some of the Colonial Legislatures had resolved to declare the Aprenticeship at an end upon the first day of August next, Dr. PALMER stated that, in Baibadoes, there had been a conference between the two Houses, and that it had been decided by a considerable majority that the. Apprenticeship should terminate on the Ist of Augu4t next. 7 here could be no doubt that this was decisive. The intelli gence had been received on Tuesday by letter, addressed to Mr. Les cene, an eminent merchant in the city, and himself a man of c dour. Mr. STURGE proceeded to read the resolutions which he had to submit to the meeting—(they appeared in yesterday's sun). He thought tn. t they were now in a peculiarly dangerous position at this mo ment. They had freed the Government to do whatever had been done, and therefore Ministers would be the less anxious to coon terset the machinations of the planters—(Hear, hear)--and tie latter /night timl it more ...ay to obtain polies and vagrant laws. They were to hear in mind what had been the erfeets of contracts for the labour of freemen at the ('ape of Gi.:.(l Hope.--(Hear, hear.) They were to re 5....11,A1 that even against the free people of colour the laws, even in An tigua, were aborninab!e. Let a negro be never so innocent, the onus prAandi was always thrown upon him. If he had any thing to sett, he must produce a certificate, showing in what way he became possesses! of it ; and this applied equally to a bundle of straw from his own allot. ment, which he was, by law, permitted to sell, a. to any product of his own labour.—(Shame, shame.) At the Cape of Good Hope the Hot tentots, who were never formally slaves, used to be induced to enter into contracts for service ; the abuse of which induce,! Sir George Murray to issue an ordinance that no contracts for labour should be valid beyond a month. If they could find a similar ordonnance for Guiana, they would hear of no more of hill-coolies. Mr. S. then read the following extract from a letter, dated 16th De cember, 1837: " Should you fail in a reduction of time, you have already triumphed so a reduction of misery. Three or fu:r treadmills are stopped, and though there is enough to deplore, and even will be under this system of vn•ong and folly, yet there is hope in the distance, and, by a careful, a r.er•.'r sleeping watching of colonial laws, you will secure at the termi nation of this system, liberty to the enslaved. Ever bear in mind, my Jear friend, that the present laws affixting free labourers are more ah.oninatok than the Stanleyan mockery itself, that these ALL expire in 1340, and that on what is then done—and a deep attempt will he made to re-enact them—the freedom of the black depends. I do feel deeply nn this subject." Mr. 13(7N - win—Short Parliaments and short contracts for ever,— fear, hear, and laughter.) S.!veral Delegates related instances of the partial and cruel operation of the existing laws as affecting the/We negroes in the Colonies at pre scut, and various suggestions were offered for informing the negroes of their rights, and enabling them to enjoy them. Mr. THOMPSON begged the Delegates seriously, to consider the pro. priety of establishing a Colonial Agency. He thought the greatest good might be secured by the presence of some one in the Colonies, whose object should he, living and watching among the planteis, to protect the negroes. Mr. STaNsFt EL°, Mr. STuaGE, and other.; followed, and a lengthened conversation ensued. Mr. CREWDSON thought that the time was approaching, when such a measure would be highly expedient, and recommended that its consider ation should be urged upon the Central Committee, and a resolution Was ultimately adopted. The CnA►RM%N then suggested that a Committee should be appointed to intbrin a few of the leading West Indians, of the views of the IMekttcs, in order to ascertain whether any thing could be expected from their fears, arid a Committee was appointed for that purpose. Votes of thanks to W. T. Blair, Esq., Chairman, and others, were then adopted, and this important and unexampled series of meetings closed. THE SHEFFIELD AND ROTFIERHANI R Alf.- wAv• About seven o'clock on Wednesday mo rning .i,,, as the men employed at the cutting on the above railway at b jin , were excavating a great quantity of stone, ear th, severs{ tons weight ; suddenly fell, burying and almost env ling plc.-es a young man.—Doncaste r Gazette. An interesting discovery is said to have been re cently made h Y M. Montgoifier, who has succeeded in substituting „ 00 ,/ for rags in the manufacture of paper. A few days since , Orne labourers. whilst a folndation in the 2a , tlen of 11. Etve, Doi , Cagtle.terrace, found two Riifftttn funer a l urns; one of the form anti sire L.:41E.1 for con'aining the utieliOf a female, and the other th a t o f an infant. They have been if4politel in the Dover Muieurn. They were quite empty ; but the bed in w h i scl3 they were found consisted principally of ashes.—Dover Chron. " Drumming" is a tern which the Sew Yorkers have inv:lited to signify what we Englishers denominate—" touting," er. " hark ing"— that is to say, lookin;. , ut for customers; and in New York the s; stem is not confined to the shop door—as with us, in Holywell-stre , t and Petticoat-lane ; but it pervadeth every place of public resort, from the oyster cellar and gin-slingery to the proudest saloon in the mobt spleucid of their hotels. The following exemplification of this " business-sys tem" was drawn from life 1:•st month : :cene— A bar.mern in the stranger comes in with saddle bags or his arm ; and strutting up to the desk, he chips his na:ne down in the Registry. He is Instantly observed by a Drummer, who instantly makes up to him, craning his neck, rubbing his hands, and showing his teeth in apparent deligkt ; and thereupon ensued the following colloquy:— Drummer—My dear Sir, how are you ?—exceeding glad to see you!— (Shakirg his hand with dislocatory grip)—Just arrived—eh ?—What news from the West? Stranger—From the South, you mean I 'spose ? Drummer—Aye—yes—from the South. Business good in yours ? sold off o'd stock, I conclude ?—Collections good no doubt ?—Pienty 0• cash to hand ?—Never was such times to buy for cash—cash can do and be astonished how low we go for cash in New Yolk here. Our stock is capital—beautiful !—suit you to a hair I calculate. "' " Stranger— Well, I guess I may wai.t a few articles ; but I've been out from home so lengthily that I don't know just what. Drummer—Oh, then, you stopped some time in Philadelphia to exa mine that market—you bought there its likely ? Stranger—No, I did'nt tho'—l did'nt buy nothing there. I always buy in New York. Drummer.—My dear Sir, I commend your judgment. I wish every one was as fully aware of the obvious and palpable advantages that the New Yoi k markets possess over those of Philadelphia. Do me the fa vour to put this card in your pocket, and let me have the pleasure of your company to dinner to-morrow at Astor House. Strange:.—Nell, I don't know nothing to hinder me; and I've a eurassity to get a squint at that great concern. • Drummer.--Then I'll expect you —Pray„ before I go, allow me to ask if you are in want of a beautiful new style of Frclich print muslins Will you call this afternoon and look at 'em ?—They are superb. Stranger. —Why —yes—l don't care if I do.—l want a yard and a half or more, I guess for my tittle gal. I promised her a frock ; —but, look 'c -here, you must sell cheap. I plank the cash down. And now I think nn't, if you've got tin plate, and you'll sell it cheep look'e, darn my skin if I don't buy three or four boxes of you !--for you or a darnation plaguey clever fellow, and I'll be swamped if I aint glad of your a - quaintance ! Drummer—(Pretty considerable flabbergasted)—Tin plate I—Permit me to ad: what Hue of business you are engaged in ? Stranger—Why tin peddling to be sure. I've been selling a power of tin ware this tom in Connecticut, and I've a pocketful of change to pay you the real grit I can tell you.—But what's the feeding time at Astor's ?—for I'm as punctual as a teapot—l am: The Drum:ie.' heat a sudden retreat—pleading that he had forgotten a "prior engagement," which would prevent his at Astor House as pe, - ,.052i1; 2:lfi the 'nit pedlar muttered he lacked down the *Are. t after iiim—Darnation to him !—I guess if 1 ri?. , l atin pz,llar, “; c0c..1 as he is ;—and plapey sight Liter" THE DOKE OF \VELLINGTON.—IIe i, alllVist variably to be seen amorn; the first to make the;r app,-ar ante on the up: u. ing of the do,rs, and he is usually among ill. , last to quit the House. ii is ut7ially wrappNl up, close to the mouth, in amu row brown rival:, which does not r..acli the length of his knee.. Ile is a man of wham the Tory party may well he proud; he Is in every respect a credit to that party. Most assiduously and heartily does he labour in their ser vice ; not, indeed, will' the view of promoting party purpose; but be. cause he deems Toryism to be heaven-bran, and, consequently, most conducive to the interests of the empire. I have no idea that any other consideration than that of a rrsuasion that he is acting for the welfare of the country, would ever operate cn his mind. Mis. taken as I regard him to be, in many points of essential import ance, I cannot resist the conviction that he is actuated by the purest 'notices. I cannot conceive that anything but genuine, even if misguided, patriotism could induce such active exertion in a man who has attained the advanced age of seventy; who has so distinguished a reputation ; and who is, moreover, so arivrmtavously circumstanced in reference to pecuniary matters as the Dune. It is no less gratifying than surprising to see a man who has reached such an ago', and undergone so much anxiety of mind,and greatiphysical fatigue, look ing so well, and in such excellent spirits. Nothing but an extra . irdinary energy of mind, and a constitution of the most robust kind, could have enabled the Duke to survive the circumstances in which he h, been placed, aid the hardships lie has undergone. There be sits, night after night, with his arms usually folded on his breast, and his right leg thrown over the left, listening most attentively to every thing which is passing in the house, and looking as fresh and vigorous as if he were still in the prime of life. his gray hair, approaching to whiteness, is th, principal, if not the only, ind,x to the accumulal on of years which has gathered on his head which his personal ;:spect affords. If one might judge f.om pre sent appearances, though in such matters we all know how deceptive ap_ pearances often are, the conclusion would be, that the Duke is deslined to live fur many years tocome.— Random Recollections of the Lords and Commons, Second Series. APPARATUS FOR MILKING Cows.—lll the common way of milking by the hand, the operation is simply to squeez out as much milk at a time as the teat contains: on taking sway the hind, the teat again fills from the udder, and is again squeezed out; and so on until the whole milk is drawn from the cow. Mr. Itlurton's in vention is to keep the hole in the teat open, by puttirg a tube or pipe into it, by which means, he says, the whole of the milk will run out of the cow without intermission in a continuous stream. He states that the tubes will not hurt the cow, and that she does not appear so uneasy at being mi;keil in this way, as by the milkmaid. As, however, with a plain tube, air might get into the udder, and produco pain and intlamma. tion, I.lr. B. adds to the mouth of the tube what he calls a " liquid valve" —which consists of a little cud, into which the milk first runs, and over. flows into the milk pail ; the mouth of the pipe is thus always under the milk, and when it has stopped running from the cow, the cup and pipe will be ful!,—so that no air can get into the udder. A pipe is to bc put into each teat about an inch up, and milk will flow front the whole of them at once into the pail which is to hang by ropes or straps over the Cows hind quarter. Ntr. Murton states that in this way, one person can milk nearly a dozen cows at a time. MISPLACED ANATOMICAL KNOWLEDGE IN CHINA.—They ;the surgeons) know that there are such org tus as the stomach, liver, heart, and kidneys; but, by some strange misehance, they believe them to be placed in situations the most contrary to wl - :ere the .atually exist. Thus the heart is, according to their no tions, on the right side, and the liver on the left.—The fian-pi rn China. Lord Brougham continues to sit in the part of the House which he chose for himsc:f, after his secession from the wool- sack. His choice of the particular seat he fixed on then was quite in. telligible at the time. Being at that period on the most friendly terms with Ministers, it was natural that he should have taken up his position in the House immediately on the right hand of Lord Melbourne. That he should have continued there has excited some surprise, now that he has avowedly br.ken off all connection with Ministers. It was ex. pected that, dissatisfied as he now is, with both parties in the House, he would have taken his seat beside the Duke of Richmond, and one or two other Peers who profess to he neutra', on the, cross bench:9. The tiob:c. Lord, however, has done no such thing. He still occupies his usual seat, which is separated from that of Lord Melbourne only by a passage of about three feet in width. It was an amusing s - eiie to witness both the Noble L,rds so close to each ethcr, on the night on which they bed the celebrated conflict together, as to v;hich was the greate4 n glossing, fawning, and playing the Spaniard at Court. If I a:, nut mistaken, the Premier would, to use an Irish expr:ssion, Ove a trifle to s^e Lord Brougham remove his locality to snrci, other part of the Efoure.—/I.;,id..nn ficc3lle:lions of the Loids and Commons—.Seolal Series. During the first week the number of passengers who paid oa the London and Southampton Railway was up wards of s,Litto. The Prefect of Police has issued an ordinance re garding the u , c of incombustible canvaas and paper for theatrical deco ration=s in order to diminish the danger of tire, to which theatres are so commonly exposed, and which has so often originated in sparks catching ome part of the scenery.—Paris Paper. The ricer Wear has been much swollen by the late heavy rains. Several ships in this port that were not sef,ly moored broke adrift during the ebb tide on Wednesday; some of which received damage. A number of bowsprits, booms, bulwarks, &C. were b:oken and damaged, though the injury was not so serit:us as might have been expected. A keel drove out lo sea and has since been washed on sho re, a wreck.—Sunderland Ilereffd. An accident occurrtd to the Chalford and Bristol branch mail on Thursday week which, we regret to say, was at_ tended with fatal consequences. The coach was proceeding at rather a rapid rate between Eampton and Nailslyortli, and at a curve in the road was overturned. The coachman jumped from the box and esra:nd without injury, Lut the guard, a man of the name of Verind.n*, was thrown with greet violence from his seat, and died from the effects of the fall on Sunday. He has left a widow. No blame, we are in formed, is attached to the coachman. Providentially there were only inside passengers, who e.caped with only a f.w bruises.— Bristol Gazette. The Helvette states, as an instance of the severity with which soldiers are treated in Switzerland, that some time since a young soldier, who was out shooting with his corporal, accidentally wounded the postilion of a diligence which was passing on the high road in the canton of Berne. They were tried for the accident on the :30th ult., before a Court-martial, and, although the postilion had been so slightly wounder: as to be able to continue his work, the Court con_ derailed the soldier to death, and the corporal to irons for twenty years, for not having used his authority as a sub-officer, to prevent the soldier from committing the crime! The sentence was confirmed on appeal by the Grand Council. PLANTATION FlRES.—These fires have become very general in the neighbourhood of Sunninghill, Ilagshot, and Oa%ing. ham ; in the early part of ►ast week five were witnessed in one day, and since then the plantations on the estate of Mr. Fo:b's have been twice set on fire ; and on Monday another occurred at riagskot. At the latter end of the week a letter was dropped at Sunninghill, addressed to the great landholders, representing that it would be useless to ke, p watch, as the party had determined to destroy all the plantations and underwood on the estates in that neighbourhood.—Heading Mercury. PRINCE TALLEYRAND.—In reply to the state ment of a London paper, M. G. de Perrey, who was `", years private secretary to the late Prince Talleyrand, and left his service in 1H36, writes to the Paris journals that he has nothing to publish, either rela tive to the Prince's manuscripts, or to certain great secrets of which he is supposed to ho in possession. M. Perrey declares that he will prose cute any individual who may make use of his name in order to confer the appearance of authenticity upon any publication relative to M. tie Talleyrand. He adds, that such is the answer he has returned to several London booksellers, who have hastened to write to him, and propose his selling what he possesses not, and what would not belong to him wece it in his possession. _ . We learn through Vienna that a Journal, established on the Ist of January, now appears twice a.weck a! Teheran, the fir publication of the kind ever undertaken in Persia. It is lithographed on two pages of a large sheet of thick paper, the first and last page being both blank. At the top of the two printed pages are the arms of Persia, a lion rampant, bearing the sun on his head, resting one paw on a globe, and holding in the other a drawn sword, with the motto— " The Lion of God is all_powerful." One page i 3 dedicated to the official news of Persia, but is rarely filled. The other contains general news, chiefly consisting of unimportant anecdotes. At the bottom is inscribed—" Printed at Teheran, in the house of the Calif4t, for the in. struction of the world." NOSE AND EAR ANCESTIIII.---The Chinese en tertain the milieu—but on what foundation it is grounded it in itnpussi_ L:e to say—that the nos, is the part of a person w-Ilich is first formed in the ovum. From this idea, the (list ancestor of a family is called the nose ancestor, a,l the most distant grandson is denominated the ear grandson.— The Fan qui in Usina. ANTIQUITIES.—In taking down the house lately occupied by Mr. S. Chace, perfumer, Catlicdral-yard, an znrient law document was found in the wainscot, bearing date of the year 1584 (17th October), "in the 26th yeare of the reign of our Soveraigne La,lye Elizahethe, by the Grace of God, Queen of Er - gland, France, and Ireland, Delendresse of the Faith, tic." It is an acquittal or release from Ger, a - d \Verde of Exon, " now servant with William Marten, merchant, to 'Robert Hyde, of Loudon, railer, for all somes of moneye delivered him by his father, W. Warde, in wytnesse whereof I have hereunto Bette my hande, &c." This was four years before the &Woe tioa of the Spanish Armada.— Wester: Times. rr LIE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY, .JUNE I, 1633. THE ARMY. DISTRIBUTION OF THE BRITISH ARMY. (Corrected up to this day.) The following regiments, service companies, and depots of regiments, of cavalry aad infantry, are thus stationed at home and in the colonies : IN E Regiments of Cavalry, viz. :--1 st and 2d lifeguards, royal horse guards, 3d, 4th, sth, and 6th dragoon guards, 9th lancers, 19th hussars, 12th lancers, and 14th light dragoons. Thir teen Regiments of Infantry, viz.:-Ist and 31 battalions of grenadier guards, Ist bat , a'ion of Coldstream guards, Ist and 2d battalions of S:•ots fusilier guards, 20th, 29th, 45th, 84th, 88th, 98th, and the Ist and 2,1 battalions of the r;fle brigade. Twenty-four depots of Regi. meats :-Ist dragoon guards, 7th hussars, Ist foot, 2d battalion sth, 14th, 24th, 27th, 30th, 32d, 36th, 37th, 43d, 47th, 52d, 56th, 60th Ist and 2d battalions 67 th, 69th, 70th, 81st, 83d, 89th, and 90th. IN IRELAND-SIX Regiments of Cavalry, viz :-21 dragoon guards, Ist, 2d, and 6th dragoons, Bth hussars, and 17th lancers. Fittceir Re. giments of Infantry-7th, 10th, 19th, 9.2 d, 25th, 3Sth, 42d, 48th, 79th, 86th, 94th, 95th, 36th, 97th, and 99th. Twenty-eight Depots of Re giments-Bth, 11th, 12th, 15th, 18th, 23d, 33d, 34'h, 46th, 53,1, 58th, 59th, 61st, 64th, 65th, 66th, 68th, 71st, 72d, 73d, 75th, 76th, 77th, 82.1, 85th, 67th, 92.1, and 93d. IN SCOTLAND-TWO Regiments of Cava!ry, viz :-7th dragoon •guards, and 15th hussars. Two Regiments of Infantry-Ist royals, Ist battalion, and 78th Ilighlanders. Three Depots cf Regiments 35th, 74th, and 91st. is IxDIA-Four Regiments of Cavalry, viz. :-3d, 4th, and 13th light dragoons, and 16th lane:rs. Twenty Regiments of Infantry-2d, 3d, 4th, 6th, 9th, 13th, 16th, 17th, 26th, 31st, 39th, 40th, 41st, 44th, 49th, 54th, 37th, Gild, and 633. IN Nonni AMERICA..-TWO Regiments of Cavalry, viz :-Ist Dra goon Guards, and 7th Hussars. Sixteen Regiments of Infantry-2d battalion Grena&cr Guards, 20 battalion Coldstream Guard:, Ist foot 20 battalion, 11th, 15th, 23d, 24th, 84t1), 43d, 65th, 66th, 71st, 73d, 830, 85th, and 933. IN MEDITERRANEAN.—Eight Regiments of Infantry, viz :-sth, 47th, 531, 59th, Ist and 2d kittalions of the 6in h rifles, 77th and 92d. IN WEST !MMES.—Eight Regiments of Infantry, viz. : 14th, 36th, 67th, 69th, 70th, 74th, 76th, and 89th. Is JAMAICA..—Fire Regiments of Infantry, viz. 37th, 56th, 64th, and 68th. IN GIBRALTAR.—Five Regiments of Infantry, viz.:-33d, 46th, 52d, Blst, ~nd 82d. IN NEW SOUTH WALES AND VAN DIEMEN'S LAND—Five Reg ments of Infantry, viz :-9.lst, 9.80), 50th, 51,t, and 80th. Iv CEYLON—hour Regiments of Infantry, voct—lStit, 59th, tilsi and 90th. AT TIIE CAPE or Goon Hoes—Threw Regiments of Infantry, viz 72.1, and 75th. IN THE MAURITIUS-Three Regiments of Infantry, 12. h, 35th and 87th. Ar BEIMCDA—One Regiment of Infantry, 30th. Ar Sr. HELENA—OM? Regiment of infantry, 91st. ON PASSAGE liuMG—Onj 11.7giGICIlt of Cavalry, 1 Ith Light Dra. goons. • Total—iii; Regiment; of Cavalry, 109 Battalion; of Infantry. The new Military Commission to inquire into claims ha.; been as!. jAtrned until after the Coronation. ‘Ve are much gratified in being ahl2 to state, on gi - ,od authot ity, that there is not the slightest ground fitr the report of the i3d regiment hay. ing lisen attacked hi the cholera at the Cape, thtelaa accounts from th t• lesTrib:vg them as unusually The 3:ith depot has arrived at Glasgow from Londonderry, and i., proceod on to Stirling. Tl'e 76th depot front Scotland has arrived in Dublin. Sir Ja,per Nie;nills is r*ortett as tiF:rly to stice,rd Sir Peee;.rin, Maitland in his o ioaid in India. Sr Lionel Smith, it is also said kill resin his Govclntnent of Jamaica so • soon as a successor is ap. pointed. We understalid that Miss Cooper, a 1.1,1 y of no or dinary talents, both an a vocalist and an instrumental perfirmer, is to gAte a concert at Hanover-sr - pi:ire Rooms, this evening. We heartily wish her the success which her acquirements so well des:Tve. SHIP SAINT OF TIIE CHINESE.—A light was burning (in the cabin) in a little cupboard. On looking into it there was a great profusion of decoratiiin, pieces of tinse', artilcial leaves, and the like, to be seen. At the back part was seated a little waxen image, dressed out with silks and gaudy ribbons. This was the guar dian saint of the boat, to which the sailurs, twice a day, otlhr sweet meats, fruit, and little cups of tea. After waiting a due time, to see whether she will accept the °fret lug, the boatmen generally assist her in the matter by swa!lowing, it themseives. She is considered the patroness of sailurs, and goes by the name of '• Tien-how, or ()leen of Heaven." In fact, it was a (Thus-house or church, which, upon inquiry, found was never omitted even in the s:nallest vessel.—The Fan-qui in Cizi o a. The most extraordinary otter hunt ever known in the West of England took place last week in Dagford Wcir, in the pa rish of Lapford, adj,:ining the Exeter and Barnstaple new turupke, with those well trained and justly celebrated hounds, belonging to that true and indefatigable sportsman Mr. Henry Torr, of Westleigh, near Bideford, together with those of that well known veteran Sedick. After hunting a beautiful frail, the otter was marked at twehe o'c'ock in that most formidable piece of water, being at least a mile in length without a shallow, and from 12 to 16 foot In depth ; from that tirn, to a quarter to nine, he was worked without intermission in the most persevering style., till ht. became quite exhausted, being repeatedly obliged to swim on the surface of the water, ansi was at last taken, and killed by the hounds at a quarter be:ore nine (after the protracted contest of eight hours and three quarters) amid the applause of scores of - admiring speetwors. This piece of water has ever been the terror of otter hunters, and hitherto an impe.gnable hold for otters, this being the first ever killed, although numbers have been found by various celebrated packs, owing to the nu merous strong lairs on each side.— Western Times. POISONING BY ARSENIC.—Ii is our painful duty to record another case of poisoning, by arsenic. A man and woman at Stodmarsh were a short time since brought to an untimel) grave by eat_ bug food with which arsenic was accidentally mixed. On Saturday morning last the daughter of Mr. Aslibee, of Saint Stephen's near this city, was taken suddenly and dangerously ill, when the medical gentle. man that was called in immediately suspected she had been taking the poisonous mineral, and a further investigation left no doubt that this was too true. 'the young wom.,n had been assisting a nelghbnur who had cry incautiously spread powdered arsenic upon bread and butter, and by some means a portion of it had been taken by the young woman. We understand that her life was despaired of for some time, and s!ie remains in the most imminent peril. An opinion has long been entertained that the Legislature ought to restrict the sale of this powerful destroyer of vitality, which is often sold without any admonition or inquiry. Another foal occurrence took place in the neighbourhood of Canterbury last week, where an inexperienced vender of drugs prescribed certain nos trums to a child who was ailing, and which, on the parent raising it to dress it on the morning following it had taken the " treating" draught, was found quite dead The effect produced on the mind of the unhappy mother, on discovering that her child was lifeless, was so overwhelming, that it induced some of the worst symptoms of mania —Kent Herald. GREEN TEA.—Green teas are very little used by the Chinese, though the " cup that cheers, but not inebriates," is uni versal throughout the whole of the celestial empire, and is brought Ibr. ward on all occasions and at all times of the day. Public tea houses are found in evyry town and in every village in China. On remarking to a Hong merchant that the Chinese only use black lea, and asking for what reason, he replied in a tone plainly showing in what estimation it is held, " What ! drink that poison stuff?" Ladies at home may take the hint.—Dr. ltusehenbergeds Voyage round the it mid (Bentley.) FLOGGING FEMALE PRISONERS--The Balti more papers give an interesting account of the female desperado, lately condemned to two years imprisonment it, the penitentiary of that city, under the name of George Wilson, for horse-stealing. Very few facts can be ascertained respecting her personal history, as she maintains a ne,iyoeytt,i:krt esst.aterporr dogged silence in all that relat to herself The Balli);iore Gazelle says: --At a very early age, say 12 or 14, she assumed male attire; entered years—fifteen months very young as a sailor before the mast, and has crossed the oeenn in that stealing of which time was passed in soltary confinement. While there, capaci ty confin e 1 eight h or nine ison lirr tv, slt o e y w e a a s r, some time since s!le steadily refused to work, and every effort of punishment or persuasion failed to hat the Last effect upon her. The tary confinement was resottcd to fir the purpose of brcal ing her deter mined spirit, but it was in vain. Lashings on the bare back, a regimen of bread and water for weeks at a time, and various other punishments, were resorted to, but she remained immoveable in her determination not to work, and w.ls only relieved at times from this severe treatment, by direction of the physician, who frequently found nature Yielding to severity, until the term of her imprisonment expired. In our state prison she is equally incorrigible. Under the severest punish. moot, she shows not the slightest sign of anger or emotion, and will strip to receive the lash with as much apparent unconcern as though she were . , • . going to bed—nor does she cringe under the stroke. Her determined perseverance is a source of mtaLb pain to the keeper, who cannot allow of any insubcml.naton, a.id has therefore to inflict such punish ment.; as the regulations of the institution demand in cases where pri scalers refuse to work. In stature she is somewhere about five feet eight inches, and as muscular as a pugilist. Her face looks like the face of a man. It does not show anytbing like a wicked spirit; but is settled, stern, and thoughtful —never relaxing into a smile. Sire of course knows nothing of woman's work. She can handle a needle with no further dexterity than will enable her to sew a button on her Pants. loons. She is an English woman by birth, and has intimated her listen. tion of having her life written out and published when she returns to her native country. _ _ A NEWSPAPER.—Freshness of effect belongs to a newspaper, ard distinguishes it from a library book, the former being the zenith and the latter the nadir, with a number of inlermediate, de grees, occupied by pamphlets, magazines, and reviews. Besides, in a daily paper, with advertisements, proportionate in its large size, what is deferred must, four tines out of five, be extinguished. A newspaper is a market for flowers and vegetables, rather than a granary or conser_ vslory, and the draw', of its editor a common burial ground, trot a catacomb for embalmed mummies, in which the deform, are preserved to serve in after times as medicine for the living.—Colerid ge . CHINESE BOAT RACES.—On the fifth day of the fifth moon are launched into the river boats made very narrow, but of such a length that they are cap..ble of holding from fifty to eighty men each. Every m.di works with a paddle, and, of course, the rapidity of the motion must be very great. These are called dragon. boats, from their great length, and the fierceness with which they compete together. This is almost the only time when the Ch:nese chew any rivalry in athletic exercises, but they enter into this sport with becoming spirit The long, narrow barges, being arrange d i n proper order, start together. and each stroke of the paddles is regulated by the sound of a gong, with which one of the men stands up in the boat and beats the proper time. In the heat of competition the v:ssels often come into collision, when others have been mixed they are frequently upset or broken, the cliscomfitted watermen swim- ruing to the nearest shore.—The Fan-qtti in China. The recent rains, the change of the wind from East to West and South, and a more genial warmth, have at length afforded a the enjoyed, it beautifies, it re better aspect to the Wheat ntti3: c o, b r s o ee p ep s nat i ic n )ll7 r et n is a g n ,ivi ) ei r ,de p r l ue a l c ) But oai t utterly marry fields fi c o; it withers, deteriorates, and E.—Pleasure is to women what with I;arley anti tihtiysecoi,u:F The Barley has come up well. — Siircws bur Y Chronicle. i o f f iitm. di nn m (° i li s ee t rr i aa c tt l ee i li f YY e, exercised, as DOM ESTIC L (f t li : e e sstir, s oe u si i a s i,du to ititt t i h tnil e iper fl (ol o uv w etis e c; r s they must be, in retirement, and calling forth all the sensibilities of the female, tire, perhaps, as necessary to the full development of her ch :rms,as the shade and the shower are to the rose, confirming its beauty and increasing its fragrance. CATCHING WATER -RATS IN way of catching the large water-rat is so peculiarly Chinese that it deserves to be mentioned. Time animals live in holes under the ex. eavateil banks of streams, and from thence sally forth into the water. The rat-catcher proceeds in the darkness of the night to the spot, and place', one of his showy lanterns immediately before the hole. wh en the rat conies out to see what is the matter, he is so astonished and dazzled with the light that he becomes motionless, and then the China. man is enabled to capture him with ease.— The Fan.yni ia China. CABINET AT THE TUILERIES ON THE RE ruuN Perim Ef.na.—ln the interior of the cabinet some curious things took place. The march of the Emperor had been so rapid, that many addresses to the King rrrived at the same time as the addresses to the Emperor. Napoleon took a malicious pleasure in ex: mining the signa. tures of prefects, and other authorities, who formerly hal b een loaded wa benefits fromhim. " Look at these men," said he, w i t h a smile of pity ; one must laugh at them to avoid feel.ngs Wel viation and regret."—Becolledions Caulincourt, Duke elf Vicenza. ELECTION COMM ETTE ES. YESTERDAY. (From our Second Edition of last night.) WESTMEATH. The Committee met at the usual hour. The CHAIRMAN announced he had received a letter from Mr. Rose, the Examiner (who had given evidence on tt'e . question of a Commission), to correct a statement respecting the remuneration to be paid surveyors, which, after some discussion, was agreed to. The scrutiny was then proceeded with. The petitioner's Counsel ob ject:l to the vote of J. Anderson, and called f. witness, whom he aske..l whether he considered a r:..spectable, a solvent, and responsible tenant would pay more than 101; for a haus:, the value of which the witness had stated at 111. per annum ? Mr. MERGER (for the sitting Member) objectod to the question, as irrelevant. The arguments on this point were notconcluded when the Committee at four o'clock adjourned. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS. MAY 31. The Loan CHANCELLOR took his Seat on the Woolsack et Five o'Clock The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER and others brought up the Ex chequer (13,000,0004) Bill, and the Regency Act Amendment Bill. The several Bills on the tble were advanced a stage. Lord PORTMAN presented three petitions for the immediate aboli. tion of the system of Negro apprenticeship. The Marquis of SLIGO presented several numerously-signed pe titions from ladies to the same effect. The Bishop of LONDON laid upon the table a Bill for settling the law with regard to ecclesiastical adrowsons and other property belonging to Municipal Corporations in Eng , and and %Vales. The Bill came recommended by the Ecclesiastical Commission; as Well as by the law officers of the Crown.—TO be read a second time the first sitting after the holidays. Earl RIPON gave notice that, to-morrow, he would present a peti tion from Nottingham, respe:ting the application from that town for a charter under the Municipal Corporation Bill. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY presented a petition from the poorest parish in the County of Donegal, against the Irish Poor Law Bill. The Noble Lord, at some length, supported the prayer of the petition. HINDOO IDOLATRY. The Bishop of LONDON said he should, at no distant period, put a question to the Noble Viscount at the head of her Majesty's Govern ment, with respect to the countenance given by the Government of India to Hindoo Idolatry, unless the Queen's Government should by that time be prepared to afford a satisfactory answer on the subject. Lord MELBOURNE replied that the Government of her atajcsty had felt it their duty to direct their earnest attention to the subject. NEGRO SLAVERY. Lord BROUGHAM asked what steps had been adopted for carrying into effect an order of the Imperial Government, dated August, 1835, for the liberation of 2,000 non-registered slaves in the Mauritius ? Lord GLENELG replied that these slaves had not been liberated— it not having been considered (as we understood), that non.registra_ Lion was a sufficient ground for their immediate emancipation. LOrd BROUGHAM remarked he was sorry to hear that. The Noble and Learned Lord proceeded to ask whether it was true that the Loral Legislatures of Nevis, Montserrat, Tortola, and Barbsdoes, had passed Acts lir immediately emancipating the Negro slaves in those islands Lord GLENELG answered in the affirmative. Lord BROUGHAM said it was an ac which did the highest honour to the local legislatures of these colonies. IRISH POOR LAW. ' The Order of the Day fOr the adjourned debate on- this Bill having been read, the House resolved itself into a Committee. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that the House now having re. solved itself into a Commilee, it was advisable that they should come to an understanding asr4o tEe precise amendment which had been moved —various words having on a former night been suggested. Earl FITZ WIT.LIAM said that the question which now arose was, whether the word " workhouse" should stand part of the clause. The Marquis of CONYNGHAM had listened with the greatest at tention to the arguments of the Noble Lords opposite, but he must honestly confess that he had not heard one which brought conviction to his mind as to the expediency of this Bill. It seemed to be agreed on all sides that they could not any longer witness the prevalence of misery and poverty in that country, without acknowledging that seine steps must be taken for the better maintenance ar:d regula. tion of the poor, and though he admitted that the generosity of in_ dividuals had been great,_ yet when they were told of the vast num bers who perished, if not , from positive want, at least from the dis eases which were brought on by want or by had food, it was mani fest that the case went far be3ond the reach' of the private benevolence. He had long thought, and his conviction had become stronger, that, with the example of the English Ponr.laws bef, re them, a measure like the present Might, could, and sheuid be given to the sister country, believ ing, as he did, that :nothing - was more likely to put a check to the struggles which had - unfortunately taken pare bettveen landlord and tenant. He maintained that the workhouse system would pro duce the most beneffcial effects; because, without overburthen ing the small landed proprietors, it would afford security that hence , forth no one should be allowed to perish for want.—(Hear, hear.) Nor could he imagine for a moment that the workhouses would be found insufficient, because it was acknowledged that no people could have a more sensitive dislike of workhouses than the poor of Ireland, and that, in fact, where they did not work, it was from no dis inclination to work, but from their inability to get any work. Let the House remember, too, that it would be easy to extend the operation of the measure afterwards; but it would not be so easy, after having once extended it, to retrench its operation.—(tTear, hear, hear.) He hoped their Lordships would excuse him if, painful as it was, he said a few words on matters purely, personal. Mr. Nicholl had particularly al luded to the property which was in his neighbourhood, and had said that a part of his property was in a dreadful condition. With grief and sorrow he owned it ; but with respect to his own property, before it came into his possession, in consequence of circumstances to which he need not al lude, that odious system of underletting had beets adopted. He could assure their Lordships that three-fourths of his tenantry held under an anneal rent of 51—(Hear.) Xt had been said, why did not he make larger farms I But circumstanced as Ireland was, their Lordships knew tharetuctance with which an Irishin'im gave up any portion of land— (Hear, hear)—it was not an object so easily effected. But he would at once a Unit that even if he had the power, he had not the heart to dispos. ECSS those miserable peasants of their small farms. It had been said that this treasure would hold out to the landed proprietors an interest in sweeping off, as it was called, these small tenants ; but he could tell them how that object might he carried into effect. Let them secure the inward tranquillity of Ireland, and they would soon have the farms larger; and if they would improve the social and moral con. dition of the people they must first chew themselves to be alive to their wants and interests, The Earl of FINGAL thought public opinion in Ireland was pre. pared for the Bill. In the report of the Commission, of which he (the Earl of Fingal) was one, they said " that it had been suggested to us to recommend a Poor Law for Ireland similar to the English Law, but we are of opinion that the provisions of a Poor-law for Ireland must vary essentially from those of the Law in England. The circumstances of the country differ widely, and in legislating we submit that the measure should be one of reference as well to circumstances as to principles." In this he fully agreed, but it had been said that he, with two of the other Commissioners, had signed a protest against the whole report. The fact was they had only signed it against that port which left the poor to look for relief to what was called the semi.voluntary donations. With re. sheet to the powers of the Commissioners, he thought in the eircutn stances of Ireland that greater power ought to be given than to the Com missioners in England. Everybody who knew anything of Ireland must agree in the propriety of such a course. On these grounds, there fore, Ire should vote for the substitution of the word poorhouse for workhouse. Lord FITZGERALD said that he would read the amendment he in tended to propose. It was as follows:—" And be it enacted that when the Commissioners shall have declared any poor-house of any Union to_be fit for the reception of the destitute poor, and not before, it shall be lawful for the Guardians in their discretion, but subject in all cases to the orders of the Commissioners, to take order for relieving therein all destitute persons, either incurably lame, blind, sick, or labouring under permanent bodily infirmity, and in consequence of such lameness, blindness, sickness, or bodily infirmity, incapable of gaining their liveli hood by their labour, or destitute persons incapable through temporary l ameness, blindness, or bodily infirmity, during such term as they should continue so incapable ; and also all orphans and deserted children ; and it shall be lawful for such Guardians to employ in such poorhouses all such destitute persons admitted therein as can be employed in any la hour suited to their strength." Lord PORTMAN thought it very wise to have avoided the law of settlement, and, having done so, he thought it would be wise to avoid the definition which the Noble Lord wished to insert into the Bill. If the discretion of the Commissioners were limited it would altogether alter the principle of the Bill. He was aware that any Englishman's speal:ing on the subject might be considered either an impertinence or an intrusion ; but lie had risen merely to express a hope that the relief would be confined to the destitute, according to the decision of the guardians. ' Lord BROUGHAM having debited the question on the second read , ing, should not now rise but in consequence of that which had fallen ' from his Noble Friend—the pleasantry of his Noble Friend, for he sup_ Posed he must take it as such. Nothing could be more consistent than • his opposing a Bill for the universal relief of the poor and his wishing to • Intuit a measure of the same kind to the narrowest bounds. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE did not see the ruin that would arise in Ireland from this Bill, but he quit:. agreed that the people would not consent to go into the workhouse. What was the use, then, of taxing the country to the extent of a million for this purpose? The only persons who would be relieved would be those who were at present ciamourous tar employment, and who .(as we understood the Noble Marquis) would receive some of the employments created under this Bill. It was said if landlords turned out their tenants that they would have a refuge. But how were they to have a refuge ? Mr. Nichol' had said that there would be So,oollpersons provided with relief under this Bill, but as there was no law of settlement those who had an intim. trious and thriving tenantry would have their estates inundated with tle paupers of a less fortunate district. He though that a poor law for Ireland ought to be confined, at least in the first instance, to the aged, the impotent, and the sick. Under these circumstances he would vote for confining relief within those limits.—(Hear.) The Duke of WELLINGTON concurred in the opinion expressed in the course of the debate, that the whole question with respect to the operation of this measure turned upon the point whether the word workhouse or poorhouse should be introduced into this cause of the But. If the word workhouse should be expunged, the whole tenor of the Bill would be altered, and this would follow, if the proposition of the Noble Lord was adopted with respect to that part of the Bill which he proposed to amend. If they substituted the word poorhouse for work house, they would then, by continuing the present machinery of the Bill, incur ant expense which the state of things for which they would have to provide would by no means require. If they consented to extend the proposed relief no further than to the relief of the aged, the infirm, and those other classes to whom it was confined by the amendment, why in that case they would not want the machinery of even almshouses. The machinery which at present existed in Ireland would be sufficient for what they had ill view, and would enable them to accomplish all that they desired for that purpose. He contended, however, that this was not the sole object with respect to which it was desirable to make a provision in Ireland. They must look farther. They must take into consideration all that had been done already, and that too under a form and state of circumstances the con tinuance of which they could by no means consider to be desirable, nor he would add, justifiable--a state of circumstances which ought not to be allowed to exist, nay, more, which ought not to be allowed to exist in any country. He alluded to the state of destitution which existed io all the large towns, not a'one in Dublin but in other host ns as well, and he alio alluded to the means that were resorted to to provide for the relief of that destitution. Lit them look to what was done by the Mendicity Society and by other Societies who attempted—for it was nothing snore than an attempt -0 relieve this destitution. After all they could do no more than attempt to relieve it. o u r, he would ask, were there no other circumstances in the state of Ireland which required measures a little stronger than the erection of poor-houses as receptacles of the lame, and the impotent, and the sick, as comprised in the amendment of the Noble Lord ? When discussing the measure before the House it was much the practice to refer to what passed in this country and in Scotland. He had certainly been much struck by the allusion made on a former night by a Noble. and Learned Lord (Lord Brougham, we believe) to the state of the law in Scotland, but the Noble and Learned Lord did not state what the law of Scotlaml was. The law of Scotland was, in many respects touching the relief of time poor, the same as in England (so we understood the Noble Duke), but there was no such thing in Scotland as workhouses erected by . rates levied on the parish. There certainly were numerous poor-houses and alms-houses in Scotland, in different parts of the coun try. There was no relief given to the able-bodied, and the relief under the law was confined to the aged and the infirm, but relief in other re spects was given by the charity of the Church. There was, however, quite a different state of things in !Mend. Contributi ns for the relief of deritution were collected at the church and chapel doors in Ireland. But, out of all question, if they entered into the present subject at all, they should do so in such a way as to afford a prospect that what they were about to do should be done in the most effectual manner. Go verned by all these considerations, and influenced by the s iews which he had submitted to the House, he hoped that their Lordships would de cide against any such alteration of the Bill as had been proposed. Shenk! their Lordships so decide, it was his intention, when they proceeded fur ther in the clause, to make a propositien to their Lordships, which he should put in as few wopds as would distinctly answer the purpose he had in view. He had it in contemplation to add a few words at the end of the clause, in order to limit the expense as far as possible, and to render it as economical as it could be made. With respect to that part of the subject he could not avoid reverting to a calculation which had been made in the course or the debate. It had been stated that the workhouses would in their erection cost 20,000/. each. So tar as they might judge from what they had seen in this country, he certainly thought that the sum would be sufficient for the purpose. But suppos ing that the entire expense for that purpose should be 700,0001, seeing the provision which the Government made for the defraying of the ex pense —seeing, also, that the repayment of the money was to be post poned for a considerable time—and seeing, also, that the interest was (if we understood the Noble Duke correctly) to be allowed to accrue for the payment of the principal—considering all this, he did not see how that part of the expense could fall heavily upon the landlords of the country, and he did not think that, so far as that part of the burthen was concerned, they would have much cause to complain. As to the other expenses involved it would be easy to calculate them. He confessed that there was one part of the measure —that which related to the mode of levying rates—which he considered to be highly objectionable.—(Hear, hear.) He thought that holders of land to the amount of 51. per annum ought to be relieved altogether. He also felt that there was another class who had strong claims to consi. deration, and who, nevertheless, were liable to taxation under this law. He alluded to persons who, though they held large estates, yet had large demands upon them for the payment of the interest of mortgages, ennui. ties, and other charges of a like nature. He mutt, however, admit that these persons had similar demands for the payment of grand jury coos and every other description of local charges. It was unquestionably a great grievance to subject them to taxation under this Bill, but he could not find a remedy unless they went to the extent of exc uoing them altogether. He would not at present enter upon any observations with respect to the power given by the Bill to the Commissioners and Board of Guardians. If the amendment now before their Lordships shotild be concurred in and pass, in that case he Certainly admitted that it would not be desirable that those powers should be granted. It was not fair to say that the Bill gave unlimited power of taxation to the Commissioners, whilst, in reality, another body—the Board of Guar dians, controuled the expense, and levied the rate far the reimburse. meat of that expense. He would not at present further trespass on their Lordships; but, feeling that an alteration of the entire principle was involved in the amendment before them, he should feel it his duty to vote against it.—(Hear, hear.) The Earl of CHICHESTER should regard such a measure with the utmost jealousy. It was a serious thilog to interfere with the charitable disposition of the people, and in particular where interference went to the extent of preventing its exercise, as this law avowedly was calculated to do. If they afforded to the able-bodied relief how were they to pre vent vagrancy and all its evil consequences ? How were they to pre vent the natural effects upon the minds of the working classes which such a provision would produce ? He, however, did not mean to say that it would be advisable to check vagrancy in Ireland by a penal law : for vagrancy in that country had not been attended with any of the moral evils which it tended to foster in England. The projected mode of relief had this objectionable feature; it proposed to tax for the relief of the paupers those who in general provided work for the labourers.—(Hear.) This was, in his (Lord Chichester's) opi. nion, a most injurious and ill-judged provision. He wished to impress upon their Lordships this fact that it was not to a legal provision for the poor they should look for a remedy against the evils that afflicted Ire land. The utmost effect such provision could produce would be to remove impediments which at present existed. He should certainly support the amendment. • The LORD CHANCELLOR concnrred in the opinion of the Noble Duke opposite that the amendment affected the principle of the Bill, and that they should not look upon it solely as being calculated to afford relief to the people, but they should also consider it as vitally affecting the general condition of the country. 'I he object. Of the Bill was to al. leviate the miseries, to relieve the distresses, of a mass of their fellow_ creatures in Ireland; and that distress and misery to no ordinary extent existed there could not be a doubt. If any Noble Lord was un acquainted with the real destitution to which the labouring class its Ire. land were reduced let them look to the report of the Poor Law Commis sioners—let them look to the statement of Mr. Nicholl—let them look to the statement of a Noble Lord who load the experience of being one of the Commissioners of the English Amendment Poor-law, or lie would refer them to the clear and able publication of his Friend the Hon. and Learned Member for Galway. Ile (the Lord Chancellor) was previously aware that much distress prevailed amongst the labouring population of Ireland; but until he had perused those:reports he had not the most distant idea of the extent to which it prevailed. It was quite evident that a most vicious system prevailed throughout all the agricultural districts of Ireland. Land was not paid for in money by the labourer, who held a cottage and a small portion of ground. It was paid for by the wages of the labourer. What was the result ? The farmer allot•el him the smallest portion which would enable him to maintain his life during the year. The labourer who required it for his actual existence, took it at any price, however exorbitant. What then was the consequence? Why, that frequently, from the exorbitant price demanded, although in labour, he was unable through its produce to maintain himself and those dependent upon him, and his wife and children were driven to wander as mendicants throughout the surrounding districts, depending for support upon casual charity extended to them by others, scarcely removed in the extent of misery from them selves. In this state of mendicancy they remained for two or three months during the most pressing period of the year. Cottagers were obliged to afford relief to those numerous applicants ; they were either frightened into an acquiescence, or their own generosity of dispo. sition induced them to do it, and they continued to afford relief to those mendicants until, in numberless cases, they were driven to mendicancy themselves, by this reckless exercise of charity. Was that to be per mitted to exist ? Was not the Legislature called upon to interfere with so glaring an evil ? Surely they were not to permit so frightful a system to continue in operation throughout the agricultural districts of Ireland, and refrain from making any attempt to check it. It load been said that the farmer, being the provider of labour, might be taxed toe heavily. But suppose the case of an able. bodied labourer, who, by being charged an exorbitant price for an insufficient quantity of land, was driven to mendicancy, would it not be a reward to the farmer for his overcharge, if casual charity or any other means afforded relief to the la bourer during that period of the year when the greatest distress existed ? The evidence went the other way, and so far from the far mer lacing allowed to remain free from taxation, he should be just as liable in his proper 'degree as any other. There was another aject ion torged'againse the Bill, namely, its magnitude. Surely, if the evils were of such vast magnitude, they required the more exertion in order to re. move them e or alleviate their pressure. Were they to avoid interference with the sufferings of the. working population, because those sufferings were great and of vast magnitule ? Was it right the people of Ireland should remain in a state of destitution P Surely it was not. 7 hen were they to refuse relief because the question of affording or withholding it was of magnitude and impOrtanee. With respect to the amendment, it would, if carried, be most injurious. The Noble and Learned I.ord then proceeded to state, that, in his opinion, when they had brought the agri. culture of Ireland into a healthy stale, then they might carry their prin ciple further—(Hear)—and establish some other test as to whether the poor man was or was not able to support himself. But let them nut say that because they nought be afraid that this Bill went too far that therefore they were cpposed to all accommodation in the matter. — (Hear.) Let them not destroy the principle in which it was proposed to relieve the poor of Ireland.—(Hear.) The Earl of HADDINGTON said the disease under which England laboured was not poverty, but pauperism ; but that of Ireland was ab solute destitution, and, in his opinion, this measure would be found quite inadequate to relieve it, inasmuch as it gave that as a test of destitution which he was afraid would be found to be no test at all, viz., the work. house.—(Hear, hear.) They were proposing to introduce into Ireland the principle of relieving the able-bodied.—(Hear, hear) By this the expectation of the Irish would naturally be raised to far too high a pitch —(Hear, hear)—and it would be a gross mockery to a people of so ex citeable a disposition as they were. It made the workhouse the test of destitution, and that alone would be food for the agitators.— (Hear, hear, and cheers.) In England out door relit f was td. ministered under the Poor.laws, and for every one relieved in the workhouse five were relieved out of it (Hear, hear.) In apply ing this measure to Ireland they were applying to that country the worst features of the system which had been for many years pau perising England; and how could they expect by so doing to improve the moral and social condition of Ireland?—(Hear, hear) They were not going to offer a measure of relief for the whole of Ireland, but only proposed to lodge 80,000 persons.—(Hear.) They must take a larger view of the question—(Hear)—they must look at it its a more practical view, and consider whether by relieving a certain set of persons only they might not be sowing the seeds of mischief that would spring up hereafter to the injury of millions yet unborn.—(Hear, hear.) Under these circumstances, then, he was compelled to come to the conclusion that it was a dangerous principle to relieve the able-bodied poor of Ire_ land.—(Hear, hear.) In proportion as they taxed the landlords of Ire. land fur the re:ief of the able-bodied in the same proportion would they be taking out of their pockets the means of giving such person! em ployment.—(Hear, hear ) They would throw on them a tax of some 400,0001. or 500,0001. a. year, and would it not be far better that that sum should be spent in employing the able-bodied poor in public works or any other way that might offer? Lord CARBERY said that the measure was too extensive, and would not secure the support of the gentry of Ireland. Would it not, then, be better to introduce a measure of a more limited nature, in order to secure unanimity, which was most desirable in such important matters as those comprehended under a poordaw for Ireland ?—(Hear.) The Eat I of ABERDEEN thought nothing could be more natural than the suggestion that they should try the experiment on a limited scale. They, however, were not about to do so, but to pass a Bill as extensive as it would be expensive. He &jetted to the workhouses, be cause he thought the money they wou'd cost might be mote profitably employed in other ways. Unless it could be proved that the poor could be better relieved in the workhouses than out of them, he should main. tain that they ought not to resort to the workhouse system. . - Earl FITZ WILLIAM, in reply, contended that if they established an irresistible claim to relief in the workhouse whi,th the Bill proposed to do, they would establish an irresistible claim under certain circum stances to out-door relief, as, for example, in the case of the workhouse being full. Under every view of the case he looked upon the Bill as ono by no means favourable to the people of Ireland. Ile therefore felt bound strongly to oppose it. Lord CLONCUR RY was of opinion that a measure like this would be unnecessary if encouragement were given to public works in Ireland, and facilities afforded to the landlords to employ the poor in the cultiva• tion of waste lands in that countryt He believed, however, that in the absence of such measures the present Bill was calculated to effect con. s band, so far from s u p port i ng the amendment, he would rather exclude good ,clud ethe impotent than the able-bodied from the right to relief. The Earl of RADNOR opposed the amendment, and approved of this measure, because under it no powers were given to the Commissioners beyond what was warranted by the necessity of the case. The Earl of OLENG A LL thought the measure was almost universally unpopular in Ireland. There was, indeed, one class who naturally enough supported the Bill ; tb r h e was informed by common report that there were 1,800 applications for places under it already.—(Laughter.) Ile felt that the Bill stood very much in need of amendment, and would vote accordingly. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE felt it his duty to vote against the pro position of his Noble Friend. The Bill was, he admitted, an expvri mental one, of a decidedly hazardous and dangerous character; still, it had been decided upon, after mature deliberation, as a measure warranted by the necessity of the case. Great expences in the building of work houses,&c.,would have to beincurred ; great changes in the local arrange ments of society throughout Irelmd would necessari'y be caused ; and he felt that there would be a consistency in allowing the primary experimental measure to be proceeded with in its integrity before ad. ditional expenses (and perhaps dangers also) were incurred by the in termixture of another and a contradictory system. If the amendment of the Noble Lord were to be adopted all the effect of the measure on the landlord, the farmer, and the labourer himself would be lost; and that thing which, of all others, should most be avoided in it—giving a right to relief—would be by its means created and affirmed. Thus a premium would be held out to frauds of eveiy description on the part of those who should choose to feign destitution. If ;his right to relief were established by the Bill in the present state of Ireland it would amount to a complete confiscation of the property of that country— s attorneys, and not O r the y r ( w H o e u a i r d )— th a e n n d b , e if a a ß l i a l w i fo o r f u s i e e t r t e le li r e n r en o t i. p zre to be superadde d, the W oo l se of Ireland. He had th e f u ll es t confidence that the provisi ons et t_e measure would be satisfactorily cart led out by the Commissioners. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY objected to the petition quote:.7, the Noble Marquis, inasmuch as toe high sheriff w ho had empann Ile" • It tion under these circu ms t ances a most extraor di nar y proceeding . _ the jury w himself' illegally appointed ; and he c nsidered i ts r rocuc u:d have no weight with the House. Wear respect to the measure question, as a laded resident proprietor, he for one did not desire. t hat the exreriment adverted t o by the Noble Marquis should be made Ireland. The Earl of MULGR AVE was p 1 ced in a delicate situation• th:Aet reilesentative of the Sovere gn in Ireland, he fit himself Friel le" .e from taking any part in the debate on the subject before the Ile ub e : but he could not permit the statement of the Noble Marquis resP o e b 7 e - ing the. Monaghan petition to pass tincantracticted. Tb e e , l4 e , be Marquis had said the High sheriff was illegally appointed. N OW the (the Earl of Mulgrave) begged to tell the Noble elarqu:s and House that Mr. K enny ' s appointment, to that office was perfectil le' gal, and had been so pronounced by the judges on the circuit inePtehe Court. But, putting the Hi g h Sheriff out of the question , di . • Noble Marquis me a n t o sa y th a t th e op i n i on o f t h e gran d jury, ase !o lodi r. viduals even, had no wei g ht ? Wh y, one o f t h em was the very Coote who the Noble M arqu i s asser t e d s h ou ld h ave stoo d in the plac e off Mr. Kenny, as High Slleriff of the county.—(Hear, hear, and a. laus b.) In regard to the 13111 before the House he (the E a rl i f Mulgrave) c o o nr not help expressin g the hi g h es t d egree o f gratification at the O le s „ . able, and impartial discussion which had been given it by their M ; ships in the debate of th a t n i g ht . A n i mpression wou ld b e wade by means on the people of Irel a nd w hi c h wou ld h ave t h e e ff ec t of Co" io ting their feelings to that H ouse, b ecause t h ey h ad from it a n ass ura v i r ' es that their desatution would not be allowed t o pass unnoticed o r u lieved; and that the prop er ty o f t h e coun t ry would be ma d e to co Otribn ta its fair quota to the supp or t o f th e poor. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY exp l a i ne d . Med Lord BROUGHAM th en sa id t h at t h e opinions h e h a d entert 2 on the subject before the H ouse resume d , remained untouched b y °l s argument addressed to it. Th e N o bl e M arqu i s t h e P res ident of te : Council had designated the Bill "an experiment," and said that it : 1, , " a doubtful, uncertain, and hazardsus messure." It was 014" r described it. Suppose thousands were perishing w.th hungal, "' hat ' bd a,kt.ll their Lordships, could the Bo a rds o f G uar di ans d o ? if they ea% hearts in their bosoms, coi l I th e y d o o th erw i se t h an t h e re li e ving e " — g in England had been obliged to do ? It was impossible, if they snot n o, men, with the ordi nar y f ee li ngs w h ic h b e l onged to men, t h at they under such cirsumstanses,.refuse relief. This would be the gre at la „ l i chief of a measure like the p resen t , f ir i t would tell the famishing p eople two things. It would n o t on ly t e ll th em t h at t h ey nee d no longer be t; want, that they could no longer perish with hunger, but that a Board W for the fiist time established, uith power not only to relieve their distress, lett to raise money from the rich landowners for tile. P. 11.4,50 if neces sary. That was what this measure would tell the famishing PenP le Ireland, although, in point of fact, the relief intended to be given wet to be restricted ; but for his o wn p ar t h e cou l d not un d ers tand h f •"; this was to be done, or how eith er th e B oar d s i n D u blin or Somerset House, any more than the Boards of Guardians, O I L, prevent the giving of out-door relief. the g: - eat objection to :l" measure Ives, nat it gave the same tight to relief to the able-be d se as to the impotent; and if that principle were once admitted, would defy them to deny relief to any one class of persons W% were in distress more than a no th er . H e was conv i nce d 'that th e i Bill would not on ybe a failure i n itself, butt that it would cast c°c:.. Ireland discontent and disaffection ; and if revolt should ensue 0 7 0 Parliament was not sitting the Gov ernmen t wou ld b e compell er give relief, and trust to a Bill of Indemnity to justify them in s . dni e g ib s es - They were all aware that the Irish poor separated from their wbit and families for a vagrant life, until work became plenty, with °a t ed terest sorrow; but, if that were their f ee li ng, was -i t not lik e ly that " e would prefer going into the workhouse to such a separation ? Noble Lord opposite said that the want in Ireland was not ernpl o Y rae- s e but labourers to do the wolk, b u t, if thi s were true, all he conk. 7; was, that it was contrary, not only to the Report of the Convsni sd fre r at ' but to all that he ever he a rd s t a t e d w i t h respect to the corrlition 0 ' country. His Noble Friend had sa id th a t t hi s Bill hail a double o b l e ; —that it would enable men to wok an d l andlords to give them enT.l°D. ment ; but he Lad omitted t o say w h ere the funds with which tb`e„ie bourers were to be paid were to come from. It was clear that I ,e , Bill would establ;sh a s y s t em of outdoor relief, and that be ~i ng: case, his Noble Friend th e P res i dent of the Council was, aecetweer his own declaration, bo un d t o g i ve it up on that, as well as 011 " tb grounds. The Scotch Poor-laws were, in reality, no t different eoiss those in Englanp. They were, however, differently a d cal tered, for in Scotland they w ere p l ace d i n t h e hands of those w ho vse r-s, vie terested in preventing abuse or relaxation, while in this country contrary was the effect produced from the way in which they were n ts• paged ; and yet what were they about to do for Ireland ? Wl L Y 'tsie place the management o f the I'oor.laws intended fur that country' in 1M hands of persons elm had n o t a s h a d ow, a sc i ntilla of interes t in guarsh ing them from abuse. S uc h was th e s t ate of things in Scotland Wese Fletcher wrote, that he gave it as hi s op i n i on it would be better to sell poorer classes to slavery than t o cont i nue t h em in their t hen P°' well He feared that this opinion of M r . Fl e t c h er would apply equally ere the proposed introduction of s uc h a P oor- l aw as the prese nt in° land. After a few words of explan a ti on f rom t h e Earl of MULGB'~VE a nd the Marquis of LONDONDERRY, Viscount MELBOURNE shortly' explained. He did not preten d - e t : . know the state of Scotland at the period referred to in the work of fi t ilf cher of Saltoun, but he apprehended that there must be aof ference between the state of Scotland at that period and the st ai r. ss Ireland in the present day. He protested against the aelen t'lwe : the both imprVicable and unjust, and was determined to adhere clause as it stood. D i v ide:" The Earl of WINCHILSEA rose amidst loud cries of , ethe r he' and asked of the Noble Lord at the head of the Government lied .sth had heard of the riots at Canterbury, in which an officer of t he e eig hteen' been killed, and a Captain Montgomery wounded, and in 0 ' 1" - or twenty lives had been lost ? easier ° Viscount MELBOURNE-1 have not beard it; but I Un— ursterealv there is a messenger waiting for me. the The House then divided. On returning to the G a llery we fou nd numbers to be— For the amendment Against it Majority against the amendment —66 The House then adjourned at Twenty Minutes past One o'Clock. ROUSE OP COMMONS, MAI :31. Owing to there being ballots for Election Committees the Gal lery was not open till twenty minutes past Four. NATIONAL LOAN FUND BILL. Mr. HALL moved the second reading of the National Loan Fun d Assurance Company's Bill. Mr. P. THOMSON said that he entertained very great objections t‘' the Bill. He would, however, wait to hear what would be sai d ;‘); Hon. Members for and against it ; but, as at present advised, he CO not consent to the second reading of the Bill. Mr. HALL said that the Bill was ver y s h or t . By it, it WO proposed to enable the National Loan Fund Assurance CoroP;1 to sue and be sued in the mme of their Chairman. The present became necessary, because the powers o f th e A c t o f th e I s t of Victo li3 were a complete f a il ure , an d did no t g i ve t h ose powers w hich V i ol c Companies had a right to demand. The object of the present ny was not to do away w i t h any respons i bility— i t was no t ins, a # way to limit th e respons ibili ty of the Company ; but it Bill to enable the parties to sue, and be sued in the name of their C,ll-0, man. Such in subst ance, and in few words, was the nature of t he'' , Under such circumstances he trusted the Right Ilonourable Ge ntl ,7 o ' , 3 lti would allow it to b e rea d a second time. If he did so, a nd if it '' be his intention, as h e apprehended it was, to make any Pr°P°s„jolle upon the subject, h e would postpone the Committee till such tin as would be convenient for the Govermnent to do so. , Mr. I'. TEIOMSON could not think that the only object of the was to enable the parties to sue anti be sued in the n a me of their Chain': j'is, If that were the only object of the Bill, they might have obtai ned power tinder the I s t of Victoria, and there would have be en li e necessity for comi ng t o th at H ouse. The objects of t h e Bill lrh very extended indeed—much more than the Honourable G e : rt ,,t, man seemed to think— an d i t went to carry into effect very di g "' gm , purposes, far beyond what the title of the Bill would lead to expect. That, however, was not the only objection lie had t° the Bill being read a second ti me. It went too far, as it gave t he ( " 7" e a ctit' grcsater, powers than they could obt a i n un d er t h e Ist o f Vi c t o ria; its I,•t are to enable the Company to sue and be sued in the name of the Clus irli' v a c ta only. Under the let o• Victori a no st:c h power can b e g i ve n under:3o.. circuinstances, and, therefore, the present Bill was brought fe r cu p. He did not mean to say that such powers should be given to Ile ht 0,,,e pany ; but what he said w as , th a t if t h ey were g i ven to one they ons be given to all, an d b y a general l aw upon the subject. VPO" 01,:e• grounds he should f ee l it hi s d uty to oppose the Bill, if h i s Hon° e ltv Friend pressed it. He might state that he had a n icas , u , r- r ing: preparation, which he trusted he would be enabled to introduce - ,, - ,„s# the present Session, which would enable the Crown to grant stud] l'7 oou it as ,lo , se sought hy the Bill before the House. The whole'subject w.osa then be before Parliament—the whole subject would be discussed full and proper manner—and the House would then be able to acid' tisfactorily. esd l Mr. O'CONNELL - -Sir, I hope this Bill will b e a ll owe d CO --,,,r01.0 a second time. Th e A ct to which the Right Honourable Ge nt- dot alludes has failed ; and he is so conscious of its failure, s e he has actually a Bill in preparation to bring before the title for that purpose. It is the most reasonable thing i n 0 ,0 world that these pa r ti es , lik e Joint Stock Companies, , IIL have remedies as b e t ween t h emselves and the public. Now this goes no fin titer than this--to enable the p ar ti es t o sue an d be su ed t)' 000 , public offleet—to enable theta t o ma i nta i n various actions a gainst partnels in the C o mp any —, n d against parties for iniscond°--„,4 jo. various kinds, which lett ers la t en t wou l d not enable the par ties. as p So far from pressing the House to this as a particular rneas'iret, t hG quite content on the part of thi s C ompany to have it understo ' a d tte t Bill be allowed to be now read a secon d ti me, and that the Coin°,4ll shall stand over till it is ascertained whether the Governme nt t i,c• carry their Bill through the House. The Governntent, 11 , 0 1 ;' Right Hon. Gentleman, has given consent to these lir nvi % ° r tiefj but if the Government will not bring in a Bill, why should the l est ~st be prevented from having that which the Government admit ; the necessary for the management of Joint Stock concerns? I b° , l) , eX- Government will allow this Bill to be read a second time, on tit rent " press understanding that it abides the event of the G °v , e , - , il et.l o ' Bill —(Cries of " Hear, hear.") I need not refer to the P a- i tlae in which the Act of Victoria is defective. Indeed, iL an d it opinion of many eminent l awyers th at it is grossly defecti'e 3 tha t Je letters patent for any av a il a bl e p urpose h ave been taken out r statute. Mr. P. THOMSON we undetood, there Mr. O'CONNELL , I s say fir av rs ailable said purposes. had. I 'Ann"' ; stance, certainly, in w hi c h l e t ters patent were taken out, a s econ d ran> but the parties have found that they have taken thee:, out svitlie t 4 l do ni. one solid advantage. This Bill remedies these hico'nveniencer , 8 " "re-' no more. It do e s not l essen th e responsibility of any individual ,05- holder ; on the contrary, it a u th or i zes execu'aon against any ene 11,,,jb ber for the full amount of th e d emand—it facilitates the suit o f the `„ey sic against the C o mp an y —it g i ves them advantages if Ili y ow e be to recover money—and it e na bl es the Company to sue individuate w ' rds should either o we m one y , or w h o should misconduct themsebv towa wej the Company. Under th ese c i rcumstances I ho pe the Bill will ba to be read a second ti me, upon the understanding that it sha ll n M e ot g proceeded with, the moment the Government Bill is br, - iught in. f nil r Mr. HUME said—Any man who has attended to the objects of t his cannot but perceive that it airords m an y i mpor t an t a d v antages to e'L and lower c l asses. In its w proceedings difficulties ha ve iris middling as to the redress hich individuals joi n i ng i n the Company sh all li' against each oth er. The question is, this difficulty beLnlr dis c ot covered, wh a t remedy is to be affisrded—will the Governinto bring in such a remedy ?—(lrear, hear.) If so, I will object t° ,c , d y Bill or any other, if the Governmoat will bring in a Bill to re n who these general ev il s complained ot: But if the Right Hon. Gentleman admits the evils will not agree to bring in such a Bill thin. Session, ‘`.. should he stop this Bill, which is designed for those acknowledg ed ' . l avowed evils which the Company had found in its procee.i.itigs.—CHe3% a Bill this I therefore ask whether the Government will bring in. such Session j'_ (Heat.) tlSir J. GRAHAM sa id —l am g lad this subjectfor it mer i ts the immediate attention of the Govurnment.—(lle It A. been ment ioned. : I have been told that in windin g up the concerns of the Northern 3;0 Central Joint Stock Bank it has been found that thereine t lyagainst part" o c , is either most expensive or wholly impossible, and that the winding I:tpa.n. this concern has been (nearly) wholly suspended, from the present " eni t : of the law twat) this subject. As I understand the Hon. and Learned her for Dublin, his proposition Is, "if there is no general measure brought in to remedy the evils complained of, we will bring in a particular measure in this case ; but if the Government will undertake to bring ut a general measure up on thi s su bj ec t , th en we w ill no t as k for the fnr ) w an , progress o f thi s Bill till we see what this measure is." Now, .1