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hail. read horn=book; ref the Wolf 'and the Lamb, in which the waif, on the lamb's denying that he had :disturbed the s river, - asserts, that hits lather then had done so, and on that being also de-. nied, declares that itinust have been his grandlatheri and immediately makes the innocent and unfortunate animal his prey.. 'Even in the midst of all the atro cities committed by Buonaparte in Europe, he had never attempted one of so deep a dye. He would put it more nearly to the House. What would any of the Gentle Men present tray 4 if, while' they were, paying the last decent regards to a deceased parent,. that parent should be accused by a Minister of cri minal pra6tices, and on the ground of that accusation alone, threatened with the deprivation of their pro perty, unless they were disposed to accept of the Minister's terms if such a monster were to 'rise in this country, he would never mount the' scaffold, for before he could. reach it, •he would be torn to pieces by the enraged people.. —There were two other points on which he should trouble the House. The first related to the accusation respecting tie assignment of the revenues. He contended, that on this subjeCt Omdut 1:1 Omralr had done no more than a collector of a. county Would do,' Who on a temporary defalcation in the ad :counts of the sub-colleator should accept from a friend a lean of 50001. and give in return an order on those sub-colleaors., Adverting to the present state , of the Carnatic, and of Itidia.in general, he describ ed them as most disastrous . ; bankrupt as the British Government in India bad long been in charaCter, it was now bankrupt also in fortune. With respect to the other point, which related to the Sovereignty, he reprobated the attempt to deprive the Nabob of that title, and to substitute for it that .of Viceroy. It was from him that the Company had 'received'their first Jaghire in India ; this was a fief, and the Na bob might have enjoined, 'military services as the tenure by which it was tote held. He felt how much he had trespassed upon the patience of the Mouse; but it had been impossible for him to do 'otherwise. He conjured the House by the national honour and dignity of which. they were the guar dians, he conjured the Ministers, by that regard for national faith which they ought carefully to cherish, to pOnder deeply . on this important•subjea. In the sacred name of justice, the foundation of happineSs . here, and of hope hereafter, he • called upon every .man in that House to pause before he gave his vote , upon it. It was his firm opinion, an opinion the re sult of many years investigation, that ;hill as the at tendance was, the decision of that nighCwould'de cide the fate of the British Possessions in Was there a native power on which we could depend if 10,000 hostile -Europeanawere to enter . the nar row pass of th e D en tal t , where.we had lately .berm so severely. handled ? Nut one. The very men :who were fighting for the British 'Government could nbt be depended upon, unless an alterationin the system were to take place; unless the British Parliament, in the t e rms, of his last Resolution, were to declare in the t'ace of the whole world, that .they Would never encourage, or sanaion, or, lend their countenance to any act of tyranny or oppression, even in the most remote dependencies of the empire. Alter a very able ands very animated speech, which 'exceeded four hours in length, and of . which our limits and the nature of the subject have enabled us tegive but a very ituperlat idea, the Honourable 40net concluded by moving a string of Resolul tions, expressive of the sentiments which ''he had just delivered. • Mr. Watalsce expressed hiss surprise . that six years h a d b een suffered to elapse, since this subject had been first mentioned in that House, and that the Papers had been so often printed and re-printed in three different Sessions without any decision t.eing come to upon it, and he was glad- that they were come at last to the discussion. He acquitted the Hon. Baronet, who for a great part of that inter val had not been a Meinher of the House, of any blame for the delay ; but certainly those who should support his motion, on the grounds he laid stated, were bound to vindicate themselves from thu charge of dereliction of duty, in suffering so foul a stain to attach for such a period; to the charaeler of thecouo try, without having brought the subjea under the consideration of the House. He hoped, however, that the decision of that night would set the clues tion. strest ler ever, and relieve the Noble Marquis . f rom , the calumnies and libels which. the ingenuity ,or malice of his enemies had heaped, upon him with . tespet!t to - this transaaion. It was not Surprising that a measure, which put an end to the 'abuses and corruption that had existed in the! Carnatic, should have excited the calumnies of those who were in terested in their continuance. Stich calumnious libels were the best recommendation of the measure, 'which was- ignally dearito the interests of humani ty and the happiness of-millions. He '-contended, that the conduct of Nlahomed Alli and of Oindut U 1 Ornrah had been such as to give the Company tights upon then), which on the refusal of their such ;essor to ac ce d e - to , justified the deposition of that 4 1) ". The manner in which, he proposed to ml " the as, first fir as to tthose.fights ; ese condly, as t ly, to the manner of+xercising those rights ; and third as to *the circumstances under which they were exercised, The British Government had 7 4ised . AlahoMed from the-dust, and restored him to the Sovereignty of the Carnatic. But no , &loner had , he concluded aTreaty with that Povern-; Alen t; engaging - not to form any connection With any foreign oruative PoWers,-without the consent of the: British GOveniment, than he entered into a corres pondence with Tippet) Shib, the' irnelacable enemy • Of -British interests, whose only object was thesde truction o f th e B r i t i s h P ower i n India. The first gnestion, therefore, was, whether the,Paperti were Gutficient to establish the perfidy, and he avowed a t hornugh 'conviction, that they were fUliy attflicient f ar its establishment. There might not be strictly legal evidence of the feet, but there was such a "trong presumption as nations were justified in ad 'lig upon. It ought to be received with caution, but that qiotion ought not to degenerate' into timi, ditY, and- he would have but little respect for any Govertior•General who Would, from the fear of misrepresentation or calntnny, abandon any of 'the irnkortant interests intrusted to his care. _Amongst Tippoo's papers there had been fbund evidence of negociatton for a Treaty hostile - to the British in terests, and thi4 this eviclenese•Was imthentic he was. sure the Honourable Baronet would not, deny. Any correspondence with Tippet), after the former Treaty, would have been suspicious, but when car ried on by cypher, under clri,;iannitances a conceal" 11 E S U N. QU'.3 DICIKS FALiUM AUD&AT LONDON, • WEnsr2:;DAY, MAY 18, 1808. --,- following ontward-bonnd Fleets sailed on SOnday from Fa!Mouth, viz. the West India Fleet, ttnOercohvoy of the Be/4t1.?; the Fleet.foT,Q.uehce and Halifax, undo convoy of the Avenger; the Mediteirmnean Fleet, under convoy of the and the Fleet, for the Brails, undif conc•a=y of thd Lightning Sloop of War. Ws stated some time ago that another Expedition was in agitation, upon a scale of considerable mag nitude. A part of the force that lately'sailed 'to the assistance of our Ally the K:ING of SWILDZN, return as .soon as the •service for which they, we,',! sent is performed, and will be employed in the .14 4 'xpedittpli, the destifiation'of which, of tows's..., it not known ; but, horn the circumstance we liaVC just 111VIltiOnttk4 it is obvious that it is not to the Tug Captain of a 'Vessel Ariel% arrived a few day; ape . atTlymouth from Lisbon ) states, that the 'LIS-- Skilllea in the Tagus was in such dkress for wain of provisions, that it. was expeaed that Admiral StNIAVIN wonld attempt to put to sca,.. even at the risk of falling in with our Bleckading Squadron, if the French did not prevent him. It has been as serted:in several of the Papers, that the reports of the scarcity of provisions in Portugal- were unfound ed ; the facit is, a supply of grain, sufficient for the consumption of a few weeks, was sent into Portugal from Spain, but it was Only a temporary relief, and further supplies cannot be had from that quarter. THE subjedt : of the Caruatic Question, which has so. long. been held over the head of Marquis Wm.- LESLEY, one. of the most able 'StareSmen that this Country has produced, to whose wisdom, firm ness, and perseverance, it is essentially indebted for the extension and security 'of its poisessions in the East, was last night brought forward . in the House of Commons. Though this Question has been, the subjea of much controversy rind misrepresentation, - and is involved in a variety of diderent statenients, it is. by no means ditficolt of comprehension in minds that enter into the inquiry. with can dour, and a zeal for the, discovery of truth and justice. MarquiS WELLESLEY, from all that we have read and heard upon the ,subject (and weoti have by no means -passed •it over with negligence or indifference), appears to have followed the lights thrown upon the subject in question by the Lords .MAcAttrzortY and CURi4W'ALLI3, a 3 well as to have exercised the judgment of his own ca pacious and I%netrating mind. With such authori ties before him as those great and unimpeachable chara6ters, and' with the evidence of fads and local experietace, he adopted that conduct .which policy, justice, and necessity, imperiously pointed out to hint— r and that conduct has received' the de approbation of the Direoors of : the„ 4st India Company, though they have differed with the Marquis on qther points. But the condua of the Marquis has nut only been approved, but 'highly admired for its Wisdom, justice, promptitude, and decision, by-all wlto have had any: opportunity of understanding the question, from loCal'evalence and actual observatirm. Frain what tippeared hist night, there is no reason. 'to believe that •the Public will ditThr from those who have hitherto approved of the proceedings of the Noble Marquis; but as the De 'hate on ibis interesting and important question was stiljourned, we shall reserve ourselves till the matter has been fairly and fully discussed, before we pre sume to say any thing farther on the subjea,r—re ferring our Readers to the copious and corred ac- COnlit of the' Debate which will be found in our. P4kr of to-day. We cannoti however, avoid an - expression of something beyond surprise :at" what' was said by Sir Thomas *r Otero!, who took, a leading part in the Debate of last 'night. This Gentleman, adopting e figure throWn out by' Mr. Eitimi.fi in tin! wanithmess 61 his imagination f intimated, that all,persons who. passed the Cape, in order to take higiiiituations in India, whatever Might be their inteivity in this country; sOon obtained all 'the et*.?r7 ruption usually. imputed to adventurers in -the East, and considered nothing but their : own interest.-- We could mention other wen Lave conduaed themselves in India lunch virtue as "could be Immo in any other 'part of the Earth, but we may fairly particularize Lord IVlAcotix' Lord Cen 14wat.z.ts, and, Sir T. CLAVIMING, as chatn&ers above.the reach of slander arid - 'suspicion, and who would have done hOifOur to the best of times. \\ hOK, therefore, that Sir Thomas TURTO - N 1),. induced ..to. retry dt this hasty censiiie, to use the mildest terms that occur to ns ; or that some, person resoltitely stand up in defence of. d: 4e izalted and exemplary itidit ideals. Acconnts•from Martin iv,. ?..4 . the 9th of March, repreient that Isl And most deplorableAtatc. The interruption ofits commcrce with. the United, StateS had occasionCttlhe inmost distrotis to the in habitants; and the Dihnit bb.ing closely blockaded, it was considered that necessity ‘vould shortly.c6tripel a surrender to the British arms. . Letters were received yesterday frOm Jdretnie, in St; Domingo, to the 30th Of March. These letters repeat the inrelligetwe that Port de Paix, as well,as Jean 'Rabe,' were — in the posSesSion of PHTNN. There were about 5000 of his troops at Jeretnifi i , under the command of a General GERltitti; several hundreds of %Atom were employed in dispersing the Brigands; who had taken reinye in the neighbour ' ing hills and woods. Lieutenant DENCII, Flag Lieutenant to Sir C. Corrotc, otf the Tagus, is promoted t4thultank of Cotertitnder, 'and 'appointed to the command of the Blblieni' Sloop of War, in lien of Capt. Ptoorr, p64ithi info Nympfte, of ;}ti guns, vacant by the 0.0:1111 of Capt. SIiMEV, who so gloriqusly fell in an 'attempt to cut out a Ves.;ol in. the Tagus. Her Ho) al Highnesi• the Princess of WALas at tailicti Wr r rtn,tn year yesterday,' on which occa ,;011 the Duchess ofilauNiwtcx. giive a grand enter ' tai!‘ozynt, told her Royal Highness's trades-pedple 13:3.1 , z,ratisi clinugr in - Greetitricii. • Tin! Ditche.ss of CluaDiiti had an t elegant , dinner n y:x o ...,tday, at Gititi&L.cms Hotel, in wip stric tvacer,. NAVAL NEWS. From Me LONDON CiatirtE, Afty ddmifrully-Office, May 17, 18Q8, Copy of a Le,ylvr flan!. Alexander Skene,;.l4l. cap tai►t of His Majesty's. Ship Gfterritre, to the Hon. IV. IP. Pule., dated on kard that Ship, Bartatioes, March ID, 1808. SIR, _ . I hare the honour to acquaint you, that the French Privateer Brig •Milviiia, 'of Nantea, eorn• unlade& by Monsieur Rena Salaun, Arid fourteen guns, with sixty men, together with her Prize, the Ship Juliana, were captured on the t.lll Ftthruary, .1808 - , by his Majesty's Ship un der my command. I,,have the honour to be, &c. ALEX. SKENE. FALMOUTH, MAY Is.—Sailed the Marlborough. Packet, BULL, With Mails of the 3d inst. for Gibral tar, Malta, and Meoina ; Mancheiter Packet, for Halifax and New York, and the 4Voticra Packer, BLIGHT, for Barbadoes and Jamaica, with Mails of the 4th inst. Sailed the hired Armed Brig Morristown, Bitft- KKR, with a Fleet of Coasters, thr Wales; us also the following Fleets, about 70 Sail, tinder convoy of his Majesty's Ships "Melia, ati guns, Capt..lanY, and his Majesty's 'Brig elvenger, 18 guns; Capt. Witurit, fbr Ifalitax, Quebec, and Newfoundland; his Majesty's Ship Cnnibrian, 40 guns, Capt. YIN.- CENT, 'for the Mediterranean; his Maj4ty's Brig 4tiiiettq, 18 . guns, Capt. SAUNDERS, for the West Indies; and his Majesty's Ship kietninr, t o guns, Capt. Dovcz, for the Brazils ; the whole of which got under weigh abourdaylight. About one o'clock P.M. his Majesty's Ship Presi dent, of 44 guns, with about 25 . Sail from Trirbay, appeared, and on ..receiving information (4' the sailing of the Fleet (then in sight), sailed to join . them. • • The Anterican Ship Osagc is expeaed to sail to morrow or Tuesday with Mr. Pr NCICNEY (son of the American Minister in London), and Mr. LE IS, who arrived here yesterday. Mr. Noma remains in London. PLYMOUTH, MAY 16,--Sailed the Dragon, of 7 I guns, to joie the Chanoel'Fleet i and the lindostan ) of 54 guns, with some Vi6tuallers tinder cimv9y, laden with, supplies, for Admiral Coi•rruv'i. fleet utt tbs. Tag4i. _ - - L'Eclair Sloop of War passed by yesterday from Portsmoutb with a Fleet of Vessels under convoy six Transports came in here from them, said to be destined for the Brazils, and to take on !maid the Portuguese Emigrants now at this Port. Accounts have been received here by a Vessel ar , - ri%ed from 'Lisbon,. that the Russian Vied in the Tagus ate in a very distressed state for want of pro visions, and that it is probable they will make an ef fort to e,cape from thence, unless prevented by the Drench troops. The Theseus,. of 74 guns, went out of Harbour this morning, and anchored in Cawsand Bay. Sailed the Hathquin Arthed Ship, with a large , Fleet of Merchantmen under convoy for the Downs. S:PORTIAG 11177'ELLIGENCE. NEWMARKET SECOND SPRING MEETING, ISA TiIIiSUAY, MAY 17. Mr. Goddard's 7st. 211). beat Mr. Andrew's Lydia, HAL 71b. Two-yr ()Li Course, wogs lt. ft.—s to 4 airtt Fatty Pounds for 3-yr old. Colts, Bst. 41b. Fillies, Sst. tt. hl. Major Wilson's ch. c. juniper, by Whiskey - a Lai Grosvenor's b. c. . Mr. War4oh's b. G. tbruen -•- 3 s to 2 agstl uniper-3 to a apt Sun-beam -4 to I agst Hymen. it Handicap Plate of sat. by Subscription (being- rho Third of he'l'l,rec std. elat.), 1.013, 4, s, 6-yr .olds and aged horses.' Acro's the Flat. Sir C. Duality's ch: h. snug, 5 yrs old, sst. Mr. C. Browne's b. h. Pavilion, aged, 9st. 211; Mr.' S11001; 1 1: br. h. Gaiety, 6 yrs old, Sst. sib. 3 Mr. Cirdlar's b. h. by Worthy, '5 yrs Old, Sst. - 4 Sir F. Stabttish't br. c. by Sir , Peter, 4 yrs old, S.r„ slb. Gen, (i rosvenot'sch. c. john-Q'G aunt, 3 yrs old, bst.iilb. b to to t agst Snug-:- . 5 to 2 agsf Pavilion -3 to t apt Wort* La, C. Soterset's White Rpse" - 9st. slb. , •beat (en.'Gros. venoa's lohn-o'-Gaunt, Bst. From the Turn of the Lairds, in. sa i is. —5 tri. 2 Apt White Row. LLI Lowther!slot, 9st. re 4. 58s from Ld C. Somerset's While Kose, 7st. Across tho Flat, sfgs.. • 111 Sst. 416,. re from Sir j. Shelley's Clasher, iSsr. 211). Y. C. zoogs. 50 at. • ' . L.l Fotcy's 1. Cecilia, by Worthy , s4t , tolb , rec. sots from La Lowther's Trafalgar, ,Ssr. 91b. Two-yi 29ogs. b. - '" • • Mr. C.:raven's Beau Nash, by.Trtimpa i ter, r 40,„ A:l.•i ti nt . Gen. G rotvenot's Welsh Fuziket; by - 2.11). each. Two-ytuld Course, rocgs. Crry Bufitrass.—A Court of 'Aldermen was held ye4ter4ity at Guildhall, at which the price of Bread Ai/tit 6rdered to be raisQd to'i ibc.l. the scluartcrn 144 t of Wheaten, and tod. Household. The Thanks ofthe Court were unarlitnously voted to the Dibliop of Statsny 11Y, and the Rev. Mr. Dab!), for their exceliqtit Sertraons pre:it:lied at Ciiri3t Church, Newgate-street, on Easter .141onday Toe.dAy hist, The Precept for the eleetion of Sheriffs and other Otticervepou 11'il4ittintuer D,ty liext, was ordere:l to issue. The Thattks of the Court wore unonintoosly vot ed to the Rev. JrA. 8A.1N133; Chaplain to the Long MAYuki, lei his s'o-rmons on Plough Monday, the Fast Day, ‘ and the Fast Sundayln Tenn ; rand WI was rigtested to print the b ne , and send a Copy to every ember :. . . _ The . LorthMayor,, agreeably to the A& of Corn mon Council oldie 7th of April, 1748, nontiiiated the` several following Gentlemen to •rbe publicly put in tiouilmition to the Livery of did several Conirm nies of the City, for Shcrirl's I.lf the City of London and County of Middlesex, on Nrldit,imtncr-day next, viz. • Messrs. Alexander Champion, jahll Lowlq, 'faddy, Titune44 Poynder, Thom is Whiphatt), ~,Tedtkes, juscph ,Leigh, t:haries Vitigin s • muud. -And tL Common Cryer was directed to tv a ;t upon them, and iuttgra thew of their a -x4rtiiilgly. • tsittit, the natural infeien4 ;Vas, tll'at live of)ieb of ipi4riotis to, the.-British. interest in The iught lioneutable : Gel ttl r ernap then proceeds ed to demonstrate, by Various extratis from the papers, that the, perfidy of the Nabob was clearly established - by them. The .Nabob, it appcared lsy One of the papers, had stated to Tippoo, that, when at occasion should offer he would manifest his fidelity, and he had realised that promise when the war after Wards broke out, by retarding its ope rations. The Nabob could not expeet all the pro-, teetion of a sublet with all the immunities of at, in-, dependent Prince, The charges had not been brought home tgainst•Oindut Ui Onirah, because it was not deeined right to disturb his latter moments, but all the rights which the Company bad upon him de scended. upon his successor. This opinion was 'founded on the authority of Mr. Domat, who stated that the engageinents and • the duty of Making reparation for the crimes or offences of a predecessor descended tVoll his heir, even though 'the predecessor should not have been convieled or accused. The Right Honourable Gentleman then proceeded to sbew what had been the situation of the Carnatic ptevious to ibis - change, from the letters of Lord_Hobart from Trichonopoly, and upon 'the testimony of Sir Eyre Coate, Lord Cornwallis, and every liberal and upright person who had any opportunity of knowing it, and was not interested in the continuance of the abuses and corruptions which prevailed there. He quoted the authority of she, Nabob himself to that part, by sliming that he had been prevented by the intrigues of his Ministers and European advisers from acceding to the modification of the Treaty proposed by Lord Hobart. The Right Hon. Gentleman then paid a merited tribute to the merits and services of Mareuis•Wellesley, whose 'Measures had added not so much to British territory, but to the splendour of the British military charac ter ill India, and concluded by moving the pre vious question upon the first Resolution, and de clared his intention to move a direct negative UpOu the others. Lord. AIICtIfBALD asstivrosi . contended that the Nabob's her and grandfather had lived and died in amity with die British Gevernment, .aesl that by the treaty of I 792, the Nabob was not precluded from any but a political' association or correspondence with the Native Powers ; nu one at of had been ,cOmmitted'by the Nabob, nor had he been proved in any instance to, have violated his inigage: tnents with the CoMpany. He could trot nrre `the view of , this stabjea, taken by the Right He -nourable Gentleman who had just sat down, bxause it appeared By the Papers, that the General Guvern . ment, in India bad the intention to annex the Na . 1104'S s tertilprieS to those of the East India Company', long before any charge of perfidy was iMputed to 'him. What must hav e been the' fidelity oh' the Na bob, if the G6vertar-General could not from the year 1798 to 1801, find any pretext for the usnrpa ti+3ll u d his territories, for a usurpation be considered it:, fie wa, aware of the indisposition of that House to attend to discussions ,On these subjals, and alter 'the fate of a similar motion on a late occasion (re. speding the Nabub of °ode) . lie offered ltiruMf nob without hesitation. But this was an Occasion that csiled for those feelings of integrity and British faith which ought to belong to alio tiuusey-and it' Parlia ment should ac(itnisce such. transadiens, it was impossible that the people should look up to that House with the satne veneration, or that the Charac ter and purity 'ef the British law should remain tie ) sullied and inVidate. _ . Major ALLO went into a general defence of the condat of the British Governors in India tor the la',t twenty years, and.particularly approved of the pro eeedings of Lord Wellesley. , He vindicated the con duet of Lord Wellesley 'in the case before the House, by citing the opinions of Lord Macartney on the ar, rangement wit h the :Nabob Mohammed My. The Nabob was bound to hold no correspondence with the Native Princes • and, in virtue of this obligation, he always sent' his letters to Madra., for the insi.,,e tion of the British Government. This correspotid• ence was clandestine, and contrary to the Treaty of 'O2. Without the assignment of the military and firvincial power, it was impossible that the Company or the Nabob should be sale. Prom his knewledge of the Carnatic, in' a survey that he 'had been etbployed to make, he could say positively that ,I,01)ie Were happy under the Government of the Company, and Wretched under the Government of the Nabob. - Sir 1. 1 110:.1 AS TUATON Clplaiiled. O the motion of Mr. WtNpnAm, the torther debate cat this (Ides tioh was adjourned to Tuesday next. The other orders. of the day were disposed Of,. and, the House adSourned at 1-lalNust One o'ClOck, MAILS. A.R/ 21.7.0.• Dublin, I 'Waterford'. Duz—AGottenburgh, . 1 Waterford. L'ItIC OF STOCKS fp & u„4 Twr.t,vr. otctocic• Consols . 6541 I ltvaucad.An.n. -67 i a