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robust, and must be particularly injurious to the in firm Ivltnbers. He,wished that the House should, sir till eight' or nine o'clock to-morrow,„ as it %yes likely to last a week, judging by the very long speeches which had been made, it only one Mem ber was to make a speech out of 100. ,He wished, for the accommodation of the House, that the two • men who adorned St: Dunstan's Church should be placed in a.coospicuous part of the House, to give. the alarm to the Gentlemen Orators who made such long speeches. The CHANCELLOR ;of the ..EXCHEQUaIt said, he wished the House not to,imagine, in consequence of what had fallen . from,the Noble Lord, tha: there was Any thing like an understanding, that the debate which had been adjourned would .Oot,conclude to night. • He was anxious that the (*Mien should be put into some. ibrio, and that the House Would agree to the fern), hoWever,Geetletnen . may differ as the substance ou which , the sense of the House might be taken. If the form was agree,d upon; it would considerably narrow the discussion, and he would have no obyttion to sit as lung as his Hon. Friend proposed, if that could be agieed upon. Lord FOGKSTONE said, it was by no means his Intention to insinuate that any understanding had taken place oti the subjett. The motion was then put and agreed to, and the • House was ordered to be called over on Monday next. Mr. W. WYNtii deferred his motion respecting • the Duke of York's letter sire die; and his motion respecting General Clavering, w hich stood fete Tues day, till the discussion on t of York's con duet terminated. . • THE DUKE OF YORK. The Order of the Day being read for resuming the adjourned debate on the evidence taken on the Duke of York's conduct, the SPEAKER read the ori ginal, Address moved by Mr. I , VAlint.e, and the Amendment moved by the Comsicieeoe of the Ex- CHECZUER, and stated the question accordingly. Mr s lisNe.es rose. He said he wtts donfident the • House would grant hint its indulgence, while he took the liberty of stating, what to him seemed the best mode of proceding to be adopted on the present occasion., lie should teel concerned, if through his ine,ms, any unnecessary • protraction of the affair should take place. But when he considered the ne cessity of attehding to the tome in which their del i - liberations should with propriety . .be moulded, he must express the conviaion of his mind, as to the necessity et laying* before his Majesty 'an uniform address. He had no oblation to concurring with the resolutions of.the Right Hon. Gent.'(Chancellor of the Exchequer) provided he agreed'to the amend-. inent which he would propose. In this discussion he was anxious forla full statement at once, iii order that the .House may be assured of what it was en gaged in. There was nothing which he • so much . ‘klstied so obviate, ai any intricacy in the matter. :His sole object was to amend the amendment, and substantially to Maintain 'the preliminary part of the Tesolutions. The propriety of discussion on the point of form, he stated to be proved by precedents in the years 1719 and 1783, which the Speaker was ' so kind as to a'tfold him. , Founding therefore his mikes on those precedents, it was his intention to bring the•HoUse to a division upon the amendment, while he should wish to preserve the previous part of the original motion. • In that House he was con& 1 , dent there , was no individual who attended the pending inquiry with more reluctance titan he did. . It was impossible for him to. conceal' his apprehen sions that the result of this inquiry would be.ot More detriment' than service. limas the House bad so • for gone into the case, he trusted it w ld ou aqui it self with honour. opinions which he had formed, he' felt assured that it would not disgrace him, As, however, he most certainly now entertained no wish fur the same pro.' lougatioii of 'debate as on former, nights, he should' not add to the ample discuision which had _already taken place oir the general question. What bad been done by he Right Hon. Gentlethan (the Chan cellor of the Exchequer) was not only perforitied with distinguished ability and creditable zeal, but with considerable fairness. What he had said he believed to be from the genuine impression ' of his honourable mind, and he conceived'that the whole House would concur with him when he asserted, that the speech of the Right Honourable Gentle . Man wart one of the ablest that ever was delivered by any Member in it. It' would occur, to the mind or any Honourable Gentleman, that of all other kinds of investigation, the present should be one least ieCumbered by the confusion which would in iallitily be the consequence of introducing into the }loose, what he knew to be always to its disadvan (age--a judicial form of inquiry. ' Great credit was due to the Honse for the means which 'it employ ed in the investigation, and he hoped that its deci sion would be attended with equal honour. He ,could not but expiess his surprise, at the extraordi naiy grounds which Some GelltirMell bad adduced s , ,r the invalidation' of evidence. Because some cuntradiakin had been proved, did it follow that the whole Mass of testimony Vas' to be rejetled ? :Was it conforniable to common tense to deny,' that there was truth in any, because some parts were taLe ? Would it not be more Cousimarit.: With. rea . son and, justice to separate the truth trout the false- . hood, and alt upon ',that Separation its the conclu sion which would be drawn ' When A variety,of were found to be - substantiated, would any that they . : should not be -taken into con side..rarion'?. Sonic points hid been proved so strong ly,' t o be out of the reach of coutradialti o n, "i'ltese, he conceived, were points which fully esta blished the connexion of corrupt prattices between lien and the Itoyal . Personage concerned. .A to the tempt of invalidating Miss;Thylor's testimony,.he I , VOi convinced it was unsuccessful. Circumstances themselves bore internal evidence with them. Miss Taylor stated what she knew, nod he believed that 1. 'r state tnentof a conversation between his Royal iglinesi and 'Mrs; Clarke' tended strongly to in eplye the bitter in considerable suspicion. It she stat,! more, which, float the degree of inti macy hecti re a ins ra. Clarke and her, ,it was contend luight, was that- any reason why her veracity in witat Slit; should be questioned ? The 01 . ijdicrts t.iisett'i:egairilt the depositions of this wit it e.-; he eonsitiOred to be extremely weak. He would tr.y ()late! note, which had.been - termed a mysteri ous one, that to - him it appeared thing quite in telligible. He considered_ it to be if fabricate I m.e, amidsent by Mrs. Clarke to Tonyn the Duke's, Tonyn being wholly unacquainted with the hand-. writing of his Royal Highness the Duke of York.: He believed farther, that, Sander) was the bearer of that note. It was 'pculierfeetly deer to- .hitn, that the transaCtion was Ir-sect - cc to his- Royal Highness. He had no reason, if he were obliged to say aye or no on, the occasion, why he should not answer in the affirmative. Though it was not the-object--of the .AmendmenEs which he: world proposeoo prove any personal corruption in the Duke of York, yet it was impossible not to snspeet its existence in a considerable degree. There were many melancholy confirmations of. it. , The case of French's levy tr songly proved the general intercourse whiCh was so highly 'discreditable to the Commander in Chief. .The letter of Dr. O'Mara was another case. Why should that.foolish and ambitious man apply to Mrs. Clarke, if he were , not convinced that she possessed . the influence which was -necessary to the accom plishment of his views ) . This case, he svogld say, entirely centradided the line of demarcation esta blished by the Right Hon. Gentleman, •on the sup position that the Duke avoided all conversation with Mrs. Clarke on affairs of that nature. It was abso- - lutely impossible that such concern should escape her knowledge, from the habit of unreserved cow municatiun with which he treated her. It would not be proper, he conceived, to propose any . crimi nal proceedings. But it would be the part ot justice to his Royal Highness, and the country in general, that the House should state its opinibns on the sub jed to his Majesty, as the father of his country, and an ztrfediOnate parent. He telt amazed that the con stant application of Mrs. Clarke to the Duke did not create Wale doubts and suspicionsin his Royal mind. In the correspondence between her and Sanders, she spoke of a mutual jealousy entertained between her and Greenwood and Gordon ;, she wished that San-; den would burn alt her letters;' and expressed her fears lest the cleverness of Greenwood's clerks should detect the transactions' in which she was concerned ; • yet, throughout, it seemed she had felt no appre heesions'from being seen with Sanden. This preyed that there was . o reserve between the'Commander iu Chief and Mrs. Clarke on her commuuications with Sandell. That House - (the Hon. Member said) was net only the guardian of the country's liberties, but also the guardian of public Morals. Was it poSsi ble, front . the evidence which had been unveiled to thu House, to entertain any doubts of the publib 'scandal which:had' been given by the conduct of his 'Royal Highness ? Were the present case dis Missed without its merited comment, he should say there were just reasons for inveighing aga;nst the morals of the country. He-considered that the substantive part of the Address to his Majesty should be coupled with a suspicion, that his Royal Highness must haVe had some knowledge of the'corrupt Pradices which bus..-existed. And he further felt, that the House would only be discharging an imperative - duty in stating to his Majesty their conviction that the pre- sent Commander in Chief would nut any longer re main On nseful servant of the country. Such a pro ceeding would be rendered necessary, in order to do away the-icandal whi'ch had arisen in the faCe of the At the same time, it may be necessary to t3.ly, that the existence of such a connexion as led to those events was sincerely lamented by the House. He would osk t ot any Gentleman, whether it ought to be conceived that their proceedings should.be the echo of a letter ? If there Were no other reason to induce the House to the adoption of such a line of condud as he proposed, it would be suflicient,of it self. To follow any other line would look like hum ble obedience to the instruCtion of that letter which was received under such extraordinary circumstances. What he proposed to their consideration proceeds ed, he' trusted, from a pure and honest source. In ,the propositiOu which be was, about to submit to the House, he knew, that he was by no means - singular in' opinion. 'He had found, in conversation, 'that his views_of the subjed were similar 'to these of many of his friends.. concluded, by moving an Amendment to the following effect ' . • 4 , Thar an humble Address be presented to his Majesty, stating to his Majestyohat information had been counpuni cated to the House, of various corrupt practices and 'abw. , es prevailing in the administration of the Army, with respect to ' the d i sposa l o f commissions and appointments,' into which 1 the House had examiocil, and felt theinselves'obliged to ac quaint his Majesty, that the result of that Inquiry was a con viction, that such corrupt prattled and abuses hid unques tionably existed. To assure his Majesty of the high satistac don which they .experienced in timing no groundi to charge the Commander hi Chief with personal corruption orcrimi nal connivance in those radices; but at the same filbert° o°. scrO, that while the House were anxious to ito justice to the advantageS which the Army had 'derived from the superin• tendance of his Royal Highneas, and more'particularly to the t.alutary, regulations which 'he had introduced (some of Whit h were directed against the very pratticeScomplained of), they were obliged to express their opinion tu'bis Majesty, that abuses could scarcely have existed to the emetic to which they : were proved to have existed,. without exciting some suspicion in. the mind of the Commander in ,C hict. • l'o sub tnit to . his Majesty, that, if even that circumstance were left out of the considerations, their opinion was, that the Com mand of the Army could no longer with propriety or Ind dcnce rema i n i n the hands of his Royal Highness ; the recent Inquiry having unveiled a course of COI duct tending to set the worst example; in the highest degree injurious to the cause of-morals and - religion ; and which, if not discounte nanced, must injure those tourcesof the tranquility a nd h a p. pints:Ad the country." Mir. Youtte expressed his satisfaaion, that among ihe'Members of the House there were so many, who; from their situation► in the country its Magi., strafes and Grand Jurors, were familiar with the rules of evidence, and would, feel the force of the observations 'which be thought it Ina duty to make. Adverting to a remark from the Hors. Gentleman in whom this discussion orientated, he declared his per stlasiPn, that 'although that House was the virtual repreSentative of the people, and ought not to aa without a referencc to popular feeling; ye_t that they- would on no occasion sacrifice their judg ment to popular clatimur. 'there were two general ,questions to which he should call the attention of the House : the first was, whether his Royal Highness was critninally implicated in the transac tions that had been developed (on the decision of which questipp another would arise with respe& to 'the. further proceeding that it would be preper to .adopt) ; or, secondly, supposing his Royal Highness to he acquitted of any criminality, whether he was still liliblz" to censure for negligence, or on any ether ground; and what proceedings it sioUld be adiisable for the House to pursue. Al t h oug h he eetirely differed-in opinion from his Right Hon. Friend , who had, just sat down, he was far from ascribing td him any purposed cvntrivrn es t ) ren der -difficult Lite course which the. House had to wlopt. He could not, hOwever, help being sur prised to hear his Right Hon. Friend say, that the course Which 'he had advised was calculabcd to avoid intricacy. The direct reverse was the Cale. 1 k nt, , Hon. Friend, in the address which he - had proposed, , admitted in substance the first resolution of the Right Hon, Gentleman near hint, namely, that it was proper the House shoild come to a' decision on the question ; but hi 4 Right Hots. Friend could not, it seemed, agree to the second resolution of the Right Hon. Gentleman, because t hereswas-a-seetence. in the latter part of it to which he objected. Would I not the most plain and obvious course have been for I. ' his RightHonoureble Friend; when that resolution" r was put, to_ propose to the House an amendment, ' , comprising his view of the. subject ? Such .a step, welsld have been simple, and would haveavoided . ' all that confusion which must reult from the chanii in the fOrm of the 'question before the House; in the first inataoce, froni an address to resolutions - , and now from :resolutions to an address. Having made these preliminary. observations,' he would pre- ' ceed to' conerbent on the case before them. The fedi were these ; that Ilia loyal Highness the :Duke of York had most unfortunately met with an :abandoned woman of the name of Clarke, w'elt whom he .continusSd connected for three years, during which period Mrs. Clarke; with the - assist ance of agents of the vilest charader, carried on to, : a certain extent a ,System of corruption with refer ' ence to promotions in the army and other transac lions. .Of these faCti, as proved by the evidence, there could be no doubt. it temained to be proved, first, whether his Royal Highness had any criminal participation in these occurrences; or, secondly, if not, whether he had been so negligent in his con dud as -to deserve the severe censure that it was propoSed to had upon him. What was the uature of the evidence that had beep adduced ; The prin: cipal witness was Mrs. Clarke; and he cont'essed that he could give no credit to that part of her testis mony which' affeeted the Doke of York, unless when it was corroborated by other evidence: There was one circumstance relating to Mrs. Clarke, whieli had not hitherto been adve4ed to: it had gone to the public, that'Mrs. Clarke was a.married wOman, who. having been debaucheri by the Duke of York, and seduced from the course of virtue, lived With him for a certain time, and that he then abandoned her.. What was the fad.? it had been distinctly stated in evidence, that Mrs. Clarke was very intimately acquainted . with Mr. Ogilvie, an Army Agent, before she resided in Gloucester- i ' place. She had beep exemined:on Ogilvie's com mission and bankrupt'cy, end her' iniwers shewed, that if she aid not live with 11 r. Ogilvise e he lived with her. Considering. her subsequent dendud, he had not the least doubt that Mrs. Clarke came to the Duke of Yerk, completely instructed in all the . mysteries of ',army brokerage. When Mrs. Clarke was asked on her examieanon, what could induce . ' 1 her to adopt this system of trafficking in military promotions, she replied, her distresses, occasioned by findiiig that her allowance was nut sufficient to defray the expences. 'Let the House consider dates ' is little. It had been stated by Mrs. Clarke herself, that nopruceeding•of the sort to which he had al luded, took place until some months, he believed half , a: year, after' She had got to Gloucester-place., ' The establishment at Gloucester-piece coinieenced' about Jenuary't 804. Now. it was to be observed, that the first proposal Made by Col. French to raise a levy, .was dated the Ist of February .1804. (He was fully satisfied that. Mrs. 'Clarke was acquainted with Col. French and 'Capt. Sanden, &ring hereon . nedion with MreOgilvie). Coltmel French's propo eals .were accepted in April 1804. it was impossible, , therefore, that the statement made by Mrs. Cierke, that her , having meddled with military transadiotis, was attributable to her' diieresses, could be true; . fur it was evident: that she must have been neg . ()- ; elating , with Cola Frehch and Cept. Sanden in Fe-• brunry and March 1804, credible that her distresses eostici . that early period. tied it w ha a v iri c io n t m it i t u t e h n e ce l d ea a st t complete - thecontradidie r n his of :i•i g e e a o re l d t6mhoi most material nit9atb:rial points of Mra. Clarke's evidence, and to shake the ,hido4linpeiritletrrU.:at.tlUserehowodli,iChis4?):o ly e v ilendeavouredevidence by t o: , h u i i 4 l h d Mrs. Clarke had been corroborated on this subject, Was by that of Misi Taylor. To Miss Taylor's evi deuce he could not attach any weight. She had • Made one statement which it ,was clear she must have known to be untrue. It :respected Mrs Favery. -Miss Taylor allowed that she knew 'Mrs. Favery when the latter lived with Mr. Elk, but she ne ver recollected her going by the name Of Farquhar. He now put it. to the common sense of the HOUse whether she could possibly be ignorant of thiscir- CuMstance. When this circurnstaece was consider.:: eds--when Miss Taylor's intimacy with Mrs. Clarke was considered—and whetethe defe& of her metio , ty on euery other point Was considered, hecontend ed that no weight could attach tu Miss TeyrOr'S'tes timony. But be that as it might, he was persuaded that the conversation to which Miss Tayler bore witness could tm} with justice be interpreted into any . proof that his Royal flighnesehad a criminal knoei ledge of the tratisadion to which it related. le was probable that some conversation might have taken , place; and it was probable, considering his iloyal Highness's 'Confidence in Mrs. Clarke, and consider ing that he Was. not aware t hat she came out of ~ hands .ot an army broker, that that conversation might hive a reference to military subjects. The probability, ',however, was, that -- t i. utmost that took - place might - tie a complaint on he part of.the Duke of York against' Colonel i'esncli and his levy ; and if the House could refer to dates, they would find, that just about that 'Mice, (April, 1'805), his Royal flightless was going to I.at an end to it. On some such remark he had little doubt that the other • circumstances were ingrafted. He knew that Mrs. Clarke was perfectly oval to the invention of these circumstances, and he did not know that Miss Taylor ' w s not equal ti) declare them true 'when. inventet: As to the case of Major . Tonyn, the only eircum , stance that connected his Royal Highness with it , was the note. On the face of it it was doubtful, whether that note:was written fly the Duke of York or not, and it could not be adiiiitted as es idence of his knowledge of the trensaetion to which 'it referred. No one couldidoubt, from the abandoned charades of Mrs. Clarke, that she would not hesitate to forge a note for the purpose of forwarding her objeCts. it had been proved that she pOisessed great facility in the inetation of hand-writing. The charades of her , . own 11: rti s writing hal some sesemblance to that of his Royal Highness the Duke of York. One of the witnesses, an individual conversant -with hand-writ ing, had cleelated, that, on a-second inspedion, he was by no means satisfied that the note in question,' was nut a forgery. Mrs. Clarke had an interest in forging this note. It was to procure for her the speedy payment of 5001. But whether the note W3S forged or not, it' was of such a vague description that is could nut be received ai evidence. It was withoia a date, and the name of Tonyn, a name by et) , bseans otreornmonrrnight-referto some other inch- , vidual ot that name. In an inquiry, .the tendency .of which was to Mill& such a severe punishment as that proposed, it was most essential that not any do etenentary evidence .shOuld • be admitted, the au thenticity of which Was, got completely established. Adverting to the case of Carter, he observed,' that this subject had been so tiuccessfully bancile.d by the - Rig!it Hop. Gent. near him, that he would say no- thing upon it, except that the Duke of York had 35 highs feeling of what was due to the honour of an' army as any man of the country ; nor would hede tain the House. with any observations on Col. Shaw f appointment=alransattion in which' t was . impos Bible that any criminal connivance on the part of hit Royal Highness could exist. On the case of Dowlei also . he - ghoold only refer to what had been said so ably by that Right Hon. Gatitletnan. Mr. Dow'. ler was evidevaly the favourite paramour of Mrs. Clarke, wham he had known for several years,- • and on whom, i: appeared by his own evidence, he, had eiperideclecnisiderahle Sums of money: Was to be believed, that under stich circumstances Dow-. ler could be required, by Mrs. Clarke to pay tier doubt for the but tbat e i X b e is rc i i i s a e d of her bee n influence ? h4 1)(}1 pose of getting 10001. out ot to the actual appointment, it was. to scan clear, that Dowhn• bad obtained it from Sir Broolio Watson;_ and indeed he: 11,id himself declared 'Oaf in. his subsequent cativi.:isati4)n with , Alderman Combe. He would now.proue. , (l to bake so!ne ob servipions on the general view or the ,whole case, anti on the course of pi Oc...eding which, in hi4opi nion, the Houseougill lu pursite. The address Pro - - I) 3 'e-a by'the Hon. (I:tittle-man opposite containei 11,1 di:stienq opinion outhe criinioality or innocence of his.. Royal Hiettess...ll insinttoede‘ery T thiafr a tid'ilietierifoiritog. Wit yet it e:Thellifeit w' questing his Aajesti to dismiss his ROyal'Highoe . e i Trorn the'coMMand of the army. TO'suCh positioa. there were iti3surtnount;tble .bbjea‘,tions. If 'his Royal Highness were thought by guilty of that which wits impeted tp t him, th e y ,aught to impetch hitn. oe that impeachment Royal Highness were found guilty by his Pe e '' of criminal paiticipation in corrupt PorP"s""0 or participatiop in these purpOsei, did atty, ingn thirik, that merely to' remove him from his :mend would be enough ? No ;. under Such' oil' entbstancea, it would be the duty of lob 10 6 " of .Parliantent to carry to the foot of the do:este a . Bill to eat:hide-his-Royal' highness from the woe, _ A s' Sion. If .it were deemed proper , inra tormeF,Prr" -,01- our history, to discuss the propriety of ex.oluditi‘. a Princefrom the suecessitio, because he ecn s ' eti ( !* 2 - ttie . retigion of his fOrefatlt,ers, he wetild Say, that if a.Prince in the preseal Peers, •of transataiotis so . base and criminal, d 5 tarnish the brilliancy of the Crown on th e bead of Majesty, and sully, the ermine . on his r c i)e., the 1 4° I ; p o Sition agitated in, the.; line of Charles 11. sh ° c loud now be carried into elle& and a to day, w'aeconvi4ed by hi s. s uch a Prince from the Toone ott:Ot to be agre ed •to by both Houses •of . Parliament. But that • Royal Highness the Dike of York hid be e ," platy of arty such dereliction of duty he absul itt,4 "' denied. There was not a.tittle of evidenee to or .putt suck p charge. ;There vas not one o f the fiAlt" cases uheged to be improper appointmen-t5, in which it was not sliewn that those appointments would have taken }dace b a d Mrs. Clarke abstain ,ed from any intetrference. The evidence of Col- Gordon ' - distinctly established this C7 . .0 101 ' 4 ; 1 ' Gordon , deciared,, that he' neVer-reeolleetecl to have been-expressed by. the Commander in Chief to depaet from the usual course of military promotion. Tne Hon. GAL opposite had laid a great stress ott the evil consequences of the correspondence het W e' the Duke of Ynik and Mrs. Clarke on military matters ;• but the only solitary instance of sitclit communication,' was to be sound in the letter? Mrs. Clarke in which his Royal Hiri a liness own' tioned General Clavering. lie Wa, therelige° • astonished to hear • tha Honourable Grentlein cil go on, and state that his Royal High ness Wits I ° the habit of corresponding with 'Airs. Chrlie military. subjeas. Mrs. Clarke had hei-seif sitivelyrdenied \ that -there was arty thing which re' tn lated to militatyprootions in the other lett , - 0,1b "„, hattreceived .from.his..Royal I ligito cA , a,, 0 11 - 'v. hole Re was convinced, that the evi.:etice that 10 been brought forward on thettO 'oases was:- far. °i t: being 'such to induce the House to accede to t .propositions made to - .chant, and the teodencY of which would be, to displaee front the con'or t u , l 4 . ' l .:" ; the army, Ins Royal 'Highness' the Doke ot an event which he shradil extremely de; lore, ho with a view to the. interests of the army, a"' i view to . the, interests of the country, Wt with the aratv. Tice 13rhish army 113 ,1 slevfir - tii r i ‘,.;•aishecl itself Clime - num at those t it titer coalman.: of it was vested in a roi?. • ilnstanced. The.. case cal' Kit% \\.l `.` l ,; %Oa) assutned the cdtinit:uld of his own atTY.,% . i-ar'' the of fi cers fetotta: s 6 nobly 0 4 4 ,. ; ,... guished thettisel . .‘'ei in th e glorious Sr" Wot cession. Another ilblAtiee was, 111° was under the come - et:ld of the Doke of C i ' tn ii ti laud, when it Signalizecl itself st other parts of Germany.' In additioo 1-1 D• stances, he would say, without fear of ccoteloa-, I",thot the army, Waled by his Royal Duke at York was not only the belt this posseSseri, but that, p t ing nuuihe r s tro t of the ( iro e lion, it was the titu.staro iy in 'Europe; At .° like the present, it 'woeld he to matte r it deep regret, if any. circurnsowee should necessary to placerthe chief cot:inland ot that A na, in other hands. In -better it coufd. nor lte; Was more than probable that the 'greatest inc niences „and evils must be the reit .ot An l-ton. Gentleman opposite Whi tb " 'jui r son said; that his lioyal Higlincs4 was not a fit' for-the chief co,nmand of the army, because aut i "a ) other things be waS irresponsible (A cry of " 1 . 1 c.,,;1; St) he had understood-the Von. Gentlet.P o "• at least her know, that such was the pibpolar ni); .;o ' Nothing orsuld be More . gtettildhiss. he V' ..,,, York was just as responsible as any other t' e j • That he was so, the present proceeding