The Sun. — London, England, 1810-05-02 00:00:00

f t Hon. Gentleman must -admit that it should, on oar ir:)rt, be done by way of advice, and not by coo. ;enlingthose whom we had assisted. When the t;t:lty canse to this country, it was necessary to make seme arrangement with respect to the militarylif en attack was inadeon Sicily. The inconvenience of -settling the exchange of the 300,0001. first voted Mss very great. i3y. the new arrangement, and by pr..viding the sum here, •nculoss could accrue to this cboiltry : besidns, there were arrears du& on the - payment of the iginal agreement, and it was in mo-igation of this, as well as for the better inducing the Sicilian Crown to accede . to the treaty. Tins tetaty first underwent a discussion here, b e t ween Lis Majesty', Ministers and the Ministers of ilia Si.. c lian Majesty, who had no doubt thejreaty would acecled ite and ratified ir.'the manner it was Sent over, and upon every consideration he hOped there, could be IYO good reason found why the House - 6hauld witiihold the grant which was so confidently expetled from us. Sir J. IVE wroaT said that he did not know of any err'ears, b ing due with respect to the rate of ex . chintge ; he thought it extraordinary that any duty could inate.rially effect so large a sum. It ‘Vould hove been far more advisable, and much more ex pedient,. if the first grant bad been seurbut inamedi etely ; the remainder then might he sent before the l'arliatnent close& . He would 'ask if the precluding the exportation of corn was no grievant: l e ? The Go verument is too apt to be thought of, and not the people whom we profess to defend ; , we should see Y .. that the body and strength of the country, was not - t misapplied. He adverted to the dispkehes of Lord Wellesley which lay on the table, relative to the affairs in Spain; in these a long line of dilation 'might be traced, in respell to not 'ading before the meeting of the Cortes. ; A Governtpent should not be diCteted to ; it was on this principle the French' got possessiou of the country ; it is a dangerous po licy, we ought rather to look 'to the atiedions of tee Beoyle, and consult the common cause. The CHANCELLOR of the . EXCHEQUER in expla ' nation, state:!, .that the additional grant of 100,0001. was not proposed. in this, but in the last Session.— The Hon. Baronet said that thepeoplesuffered froni the regulations respecting core; this, however, was occasioned by privileges belunging to certain gasses - and corporattens of p,ople' in the country itself. ' Gen. TAfteuToer, observed that nothing had been raid with regard to thtsdetence.ef the cou;itry. In-. stead of 10,000, he believed there were 15,000 men locked up Were ; this was not a wise measure. The, manner too of transmitting this grant in money he, conceived to be injurious to this Country ; such ab ex peud tue - was not justifiable . ; he therefore moved as au Awendment, " That instead of 400,0001. in tlie resolution, 300,0001. should be inserted." 4 , div ision was c a ll e d f or, when.. there appeared— For the Resolution For the Amendment Majority i , 0 25 - -40 • PRIVATELY STEALING BILL; ' Sir SAMUEL ROMILLY moved the further con sideration of the 'Report of the Privately . ' Stealing . 13;11. The Amendments being agreed`to, he moved that they and the Bill should be engrossed. Mr. HERktERT expressed his concern at differing Vk it h the- li.-arned Gentleman; he was sorry he could ti , :t now agree with hint. With respect to the frequency of capital punishments they were now considerably diminished. If we .take-from the list ctf those. guilty of crimes punishable by death; the many who es:.tpe frgrn the want of prosecution, by ititurcessioo, blibcry, the ingenuity of counsel, and lastly, .the means of trial by Jury, we shall find ttie nutnber of executions comparatively ftw. ,He la - nlented the many abuses arising from the maxim drat crimes are punished not for satisfaction, but to prevent future crimes. The Learned Gentleman had asserted that the statute of Queen . Elizabeth for punishing all persons above the age of fourteen, capitally associated, to be a barba- roils law ; the -Hun. Gentleman should have recol— leCted that in those tittles the posse comitatas was in efficient; incapable even of acting against gypsies. Takh,g this into consideration, it would appear that - this law was not unjust. Persons of such a.descrin two,. a statute of Henry ihe Eighth condemns to banishment; nd afterwards one of Philip and Mary enacts a capital punishment; it is in contirma tit-sn of these that the law of Queen Elizabeth al luded to was made ; have not we ourselves been as ,ievere in the Ads. we have passed in the case of 'the White Boys ? If the laws of England are con ‘.!einne'd on the 'principle of being enacted on an .enteigency, the Constitution must be condemn ed. He would ask what punishment could be in flicted besides death ? Would the Honourable Gentleman Wish, as in Russia, to introduce the *nom ? would he agree with the M arqu i s B eccaria, and condemn a cr i m inal to perpetual imprisonment,. adopt the mode of nailing the ears to a pillory, or sulitsry confinement ? he.believed 'here were many in the country who would strain eery nerve to pre vent solitary; punishment. We cannot lament the. joss of the lives of il.dividuals, when so many pubtic -' blessings are obtained by 'it. If- means rwere rather taken to prevent the extension of contagious . diseases, ninetc,n lives to one would be saved more than by the abolition of c:,,pital punishment. He' deemed the terror of death salutary in pieventing the lone of opening -letters. Blackstone, he said, dim. - dpi - c,vd of the alteration of capital Jaws. For all these reasons, be felt it his duty to negative the , engrossment. • :Sir J. NuwpoßT said, that if the Hon. Qemle, t x)an ar.prOved of the.severify of the law, it was ne cessary he should agree iii the deduaion from the principle; that the (13aSS of mankind were injuteti by So bloody a system was evident. , Many cases :ettici be adduced to prove that the severity of the law is not so much feared as the certainty of it. He recollteied that•some time ago, in Ireland, - it was felony to Cut:a tree by day or 'night, - He ficrivainteci with a very respeaable person who took great pride in the Cultiv at i on o f trees, and'on an incliacittal's being takrzn to the ait, of cutting One . of them, he Worked hiMself up to carry this rigbar into effeet. Previous to the assizes lie en -410 acotistantagitafion of mind, and when they did ore on, he declared that on consideration he could not kitig leis mind I th carry his rigorou's intent into •aleti?• - Such cirfUmitatices injure the country, A •.• person gUiley . of - a crime 'Calctilates'not only on his pnisimlCnr, • but on the-feelings'of Mankind; thif the . a criminal iT4 allowed to Calculate on his , - „.. • lA:ices; the 'cett4tttly of punishmentis taken a way. '. . • . . . _ • ' A -,' 6 - • ' , .11, ~ EVer7 , •Wriiei. co tile Sajt-A S3j-a that the effeets i an oppe . site 'hat - ure. While he admitted that few., ' teade'ont for tbeinterfereike of Pittliairt" a' v of punislineent result i not front . it s severity- but. Oleo:meet of cenairalionii were followed by the eettish- I should therefore se:peel/it the Bill, e •,t, from its_ certaitrty.• Whe n the ! Ho noura bl e -Geo:. - mo o t of deeth et he • denied that' the possibility' . that I The SOLICITOR-GFAiERM, cordially reit ; o ry. t,e, tletnan speak.; of trial by Jury, he: shoula re- - suclea puniehment might follow did not deter halal his Hon. Friend, that .the. of . the 1 9 i ' i • i i :- , 3 ret, ' • colleCt that . it rather is a . convincing .pr oo f o f , crim e .' It wat the onafortoneof those - who thought I - Kirk, uliich, though • dormant, woola . e.e. oe .the assertions of .hias Learned a ta r i e nd ; a Jury in- 1 with lifna, that they could not Point out the nes- t hoped . bednetficacious, and which provided li e " to. iti • clinesto mercy, and iLe. only_ way whiehtpreselits it- ',cider wiled) had teen prevented by the fear of ea pi- r, amendmenf of criminals by their conline e rn 0. in self of acquittal is oy perjury; th e Legislature should i tal punishment, because that which was prevented 't penitentiary. houses, ought to be pit i n for r not therelote put suith an onus on the mind of the could' never be seen ; but the feel- was-..not the- less i brder ft:l - preterit the contagion of vice, and to rin k. iii _ it a cce r lr ) .f, people. The lion. Gentleman gOes , to a different iiudobitable. There were cases in which . he con- 1 it pratiticable for a criminal to come out - part of, the world to find a.peni e h m e n t. He. ce r .el ceived that the stealing . in a dwellieg-house to the 1 ment an arn'ended suhieS,• and cepable of retuw 1 tainly did not read the Atat, or he would irate; seen' value of. 40s. might be . atieeded.with such circum- - 1 to an honest course of life. His Holl. and Learned,ew that on the very face of it his Learnedtlariend pro- stances as not to render the operation, of a law in- 1 Friend, in Whom the dismission originated, .. nt e sides a punishment, --by leaving it in the discretion I flitting capital punishment unfit. In the early part i tended that the present law by holding out the r cli it of the Judge ito infliol. He Was well aware that so- .1 of his life lie recolletated several instances in which t nishment of death, . augmented the- evils w i ii r , b i t bony imprilonutent is worse: than death; .yet, he lit had been int - naked on persons who had entered the 1 - professed to diMinish. With all his respea_ for bit believed, it would be of good to the community ;_ houses of cottage:is in the country ; the ju i ti e. .I Hoot and Learned Friend, he roust saY i i r li l eet e for then the prisoner Fdten left to commune- with 1 1:ltere was a great idifae r e nee in the consideration i own experience, 'confirmed by the.opinion or "±_.e. the his own thOughts, wouid'coth e out reformed ; wed s , whether- a law in existence should be eepealed, and I, who were the 'beat qualified to judge uPon nof, as now, instructed in the profligacy of others. " whether, a similar law not in existence should be t je&, was (fleet - 11y the 'reverse. - Would 3 11 Y _.,,a He, -at present, would !lever cease to say, that the - passed. Dino evil resulted from the law, .adminis- 1 state a casein which a proaecnter had been deter a r to pittiinal Law was defeelive e and hoped his 'Learned i tercdeait then stood, it ought not to be aliered.on a , from proceeding fur feaa of bringing the crirn in eol e Friend would continue his career of humanity until a mete.seeculation." In the former part of his pro- I a capital punishment a It might be so : but belle~ he had established his principlet of capital punish- I fessional life be had ptaaaised in Criminal Courts ; I such a case was stated To him 'be would not beta' f inept on a rock never to be shaken. - o 1 behad •recently sat as a Judge in a Criminal Court; a its _ existence. 'lf a erosecutor were desirous tio, Mr, Devtes GIDDY 4aid, that he wool.' offer a i and•he could tot say that on this subject more than i i avoiding the capital Fait of the charge, he l i ' lci _ o b, , few eiguinetils, in evhich be would neither approve • •anea otheribe - had eobserved that-;prosecutors had I ,thing to do but to,abstain from.stating that the; it of or oppose the mitigation of Capital Laws,. but ! 'been induced to abandon. presecutionet; that wit- bery toat• place in a . dwelling-liouee, or that rather adopt a middle course. The Learned Gentle- 1 - neases bad been influenced .to give false testimony, ' nenounteu to 20s ip value. It, %VAS an exagg er F t feet man in his peep s t am t h at Nature ha s fixed h er i o r that Juries tad been deferred from finding 'vet- , therefore to Beet, that the present law led to P e e et a' I limits on.une stye of the question. He would say 1 . mats ecCording to the truth of the .fl 6. On' this t impunity, It had been said that the laW ln uti ii that many theories are fallationie and human judg-.1 subjea,- which depended very much in .experience,' I witnesses to peure themselves.. Thisevas all ,iortiolaci menu? cannot be all- per ect o the mitigation of put; I - nen°. were so well qualified to form -an opinion as ginary, and he was sure that ne praCtical rnin '! itite •nishments lie would leave to the Jury. •Wit h respet . the Judges of the land. He did not fied hoteever, i etate that aehis opinion.. He allowed that Jai t ' ide . to.punishnient without express rules, though the de- 1 that any communication had. been had with the might occasionally be inclined toindulge a lar l ' ef 3 cision would be arbitrary, and odious perhaps as the i I Judges or. the present 'eubjed ; tier had he reason to t in valuing the-erticle i s which were the subject ' oat expression might seem', still he conceived it to bean 1 believe that their experience would lead. them to prosecution. This was exceesively censurable , .:# O5 , approximation to peried huma n jurisprudence:, He I conclusions similar to those of his Honourable and i• what followed ? Perfect impunity'? . By no nii e leat approved.of the necessity o f iie r t a i n ty in punishment a . Learned - Ft fend. It was no disparagement to either i The criminal was subject to the same punishieble. he thought, however, it should be united with seve- Lof Ids lion. and Learned" Friends to say, that they , as he would be were the oirt t aence made a cliarg eii sh . rity ale adverted to! the crime"- 0 f sheep-steali n g ; t could hot be so well qualified to 'form an opinion ; felony. To - take away one. description of pu r ni, a , value the - . extent of out cotnincins; and the of the law in question es those who _were in "the i ment would not lead to a greater certainty or l b° value - of sheep, if not punished with severity, th e daily habit of administering it. He was adverse' to i inhibit-tem : and he was pers ua d e d that no Ono 13 '; I . :ming was conversant with the administration of cri — h ..: consequences would be most injurious. He agreed the 13:11. • • .in the mitigation of punishment for. breaking open a, Mr.. MORRIS declared, that be had spent a great i law would contend that the terror of capital p un ' s , o t e . - . doer, which, if many are connected together, con , part of his professional life in Criminal Courts,. and , merit,' however surely inflicted, did not deter " tot demos the whole. He would rather wish that the that his experience wee in direta opposition to that i the commission of crime. He instanced sav i r lit . persons who immediately effected the crime should lof the Hon. and Learned Gentleman who had just cases in which criminals had_ speculated on ;i t only be punished._ • spoken. He had kii6an Otaily instances in which i crimes being only transportable offences. B u t The MASTER of th e R OLLS supeorted the ladl e the criminal was red ee med f rom t h e c a p i ta l part o f seemed time dread of a ca pi ta l punishmetit was to convinced that th e obje& Which it h a d i n content- the charge by p e rjury on th e p art o f. witnesses and operate on a pro secutor , on witnesses, on the Jury, oil tio pletion weuld b e e ff e tt e d if suffered to pass int o a ' the Jury. • This per j u r y h a d come t o b e considered e ve ryb o d y b ut t h e i ndividual tempted to comm it t " heorf • law. Without enterina into an exatnination of the las a sort of amiable weakness t lie was desirous, crime ! Was that a rational supposition ? The lee ett general 'opinions upon tge sutjetat, b e would shortly I hotvever, that such morbid sensibility should be ex- , of his Hon. and Learned_ Friend was directed 'agtaavr o slate. his reasons for thinking it desirable, indeed he ; chided from our Courts, and confined to our Chime 1 the whole system of discreti o n in criminal law, and believed that it was agreed on all hands that it was.'i hating Libraries. Tale evils existiog under the pre- if adopted in one case must be adopted in the read le so, the only question which arose - was; whether .if i sent law, were of magnitude sufficient to induce the He admitted that it would b e ve r y beautiful if P , any other punishment- • was marked, out instead of 1 House to adopt the proposition of his. Honourable law cotild be so contrived, 'as t hat a precise pun's`'. i death for the crime, it would have the oiled of de -• I and Learned Ft - lend. It was true that he had not , meat should be propos e d f o r. e v e ry individual (i ' ,,f taring persons from the commission of it. When 1 had any cominunication On the subjed with those I fence, without leaving any thing to the discretioa ~ i any alteratiOn in the laws of the• land was proposed I . venerable charatlers presiding de . our ,Ceiminal i those by whom the law was administered. But t Courts,. brit he had always . seen them exercise this - !-though this would 'be very beautiful, it wo uld.. to be made, it i became the-House to took into them, I and see vidietber they weteeititalive in their operaa 1, part a their authority with the most painful anxie,ty, ' , wholly inapratticable. All that cotild lie , ditiw l , s lion. Now what bad the Learned Gentleman who' ' and if he might be allowed to comet - lure on the sub- 1 - peattiee 'was to have a generic description 'of cridae l 0 , brought in this Bill said upon this head ? Why, he - i jekt, it was a, power which the Judges would . much . 1 The peculiar circumstances of aggravation ott td hark stated, that in many cases they were not opt- I ratherourrender than maintain. e ,• . 1 one "hand, and of extenua:ion eu the other, L'f : - Mr. F43ANKLAND contended, that if the• Judges which every individual case was marked, aa tl'% rative; ,for, that where the crime was punishable I were of the opinion ascribed to them by the Hon. i could not be foreseen, could not.be., embodied t , with death, the pueishMent, in very few instances ! had been carried into etre& The inference which .! and Learned' Gent. they would hiive declared it, 'the law. Let any one try his hand at such a pari!' he should draw frOrn that circerustatiae was, that i but the - reverse was, the feet. The •supporters of. eularization, acid he would' soon find the imPoasi e b ': either the law, or the prattice el it, , was wrong.--1 the present Bill maintained; that the punishments : lity of it: Even could it. be eecomplished, 9 0 13 ___'; - ejusdeoc • geye . ris. This be denied, t from insuring a certainty of punishment, it wtitZ" Whicliever•-was the . case, the truth wait that it had oaght to be, been contended, the laws were net efficacious in i Such a -priocipal•wesoontrary to all practice and ex- give the criminal the greatest oppot tut - Nes for e c i t 1 perience. He deniedialso that a capital puriishlttellt cape, both in the 'mode in which the indittioleP prevenett .' tke Clinic. The leffittion of death be le ; log abstained from, - he • appr e h en d e d" thetth e j oi t • oughtato 'be held out in terrorens • F or i ns t ance, in must necessarily be d raw h up, an in th e h es itant)a conclusion. to be d rawn was , t h at the prat:lice is the tnilital a code of the conntry, desertion, was which Juries would e n t ert ai n in consequence e' it ' decreed to . be punished w i t h ( t ee th, tt o r other ' Under all the circumstances, lie thought the prae • right; because, if the lats.- iii itself was wroag, would mos( assuredly .have been .noticed as ,such in punishment !" hot' one deserter, - however, in , sent system better than that proposed to be sula tfm some way orothar. If the practice - then was not 20Q,900, .was aCtueily peolshed with death. Did it oiled. • . blamed, and no fault had been found with the Judges- tthence follow that the tear of the punishment of I Mr. PANNING conceived the whole system of oa r . or the Kingia advisers, for not en:orcing, time lawi i t de at h did no t _deter from. desertion ? If, in the laws . to arise from cettain circurnstences, willcita - clearly _sliewed. that the public op noun was, that course of his walks, he had, for twenty . succestive from time to time, had pressed upon the native Pa years, seen in the oairldoia q a house a blundetbuss i the Legislature, and seemed to render the eneCimer it ' tl:e law is too Scvere, and is not _avhipted to time of- fence. - There seemed indeed to be a sort of tint- And a• watchman's rattle ; af, at time expiration of s i of such laws necessary. If eny one had found it s versa! confederacy in the people to abrogate the law. that tim, he had gone in and askeil the owner of O Way into the code, adtnitting too severe a puoish' 1 lain some instances prosecutors did not like to go on to that mansion how many persons 'be had shot with [merit for a critue, which, from its frequency at OP conviaion, because of the penally to the Offender. hislblunderbuts, and how often -he had sprung his i time the' AIE was passed, might seem to call lb; 1 Juries would in oth er c a ses exempt the offeoder. rattle.; ,if he bad been answ ere d t h at t h e tr i gger of 1 such severity, it did not follow that such a law should from the capital punishment, so that it might not the one had never been pulled, and that the not a ed •in force to the end of time,.or at pea, ibe left in the breast of the J u d ge to execute it; nay._ of t e e o th e r had never been heard, Would-it thence : rodswhen the crime had ceased to be frequent. even the Judges and the King's advisers were of the ' follow that their public exhibition had not deterred a the Hen:, Gentleman had proposed a Committee 10 same opinion, and did not thi n k i t a d v i sa b le to 'tie from the commission of burglary ? He deprecated t revise the whole system - Of:our Criminal Laws, he filet a punishment which time law had expressly de- ; any attempt to alter that systeM udder which, as he : should then have epproved of the observation o f Ida fined. With respect to the law then being ef f ectu a l, i conce i v ed, - British freedoni had flourished. In other i Hon. and Learned Friend (the Solicitor-General) ' offenders were prosecoted, and Juries' were induced' l i. coentrics the hand was watched while it was writ- i and have thought that it would not be well thus to to accent in many instances, not that they did not I ing ; the att . was checked before it ripened into I risk shaking the whole aystem,of our laws l t, was think the offender guilty, but because they thought : crime. But . such a sydem was far from desirable. clear that a discretionary power must still continue the offence. was to be too severely punished %snit It would injure the manly'spirit of the British cha-' to.be vetted in the Judges, and the question before death. The law, therefore, was- not good which , ratiter, to prevent any one from doing that Whit4ll he : the House was notwilether sh extinguish- left to the discreti on of J ur i es t o g i ve a verdia coti- the did at his peril. Wh ere th ere was li tt l e preventive that power; b ut h oe' far it y mi ould eht . be . proper 1 - trary to their oaths, or as Blaekstoue very ernphati- : justice there must be much penal. He - did not wish ;to limit its range. No man could . say it would. pally termed such decision which placed Juries in lb see the adions of Englishmen too muth controul- 'be extinguishing the, power to impote limits to its : the situation of " canernitting pious perjuries;" be; ed. He did not With. to see, as he had seen on Me range. The whole amount of the change went to t i cause it was ad verse to their. feelings of juStice.- - i Continent, .an armed matt steed In a ball-room, and rake from them the power . of dispenting life or i 4 Qught'the law to stand which men could. not ton- . . tell a dancer - that he must not tu r n hi s p artner sue!' . death, and to that he could see on objection. Whe- a. 'form to, without sacrificing their feelitigs'• or their or such lay. Nothing could } in his opinion, tend ther or not the existence of the punisonient of h , consciences ? It m i g h t be Said, that i t wou ld b e more to i njure the charaderiSitc freedom, a n d .the • cau s ed mercy, it couidnot preve nt th e comniiss deat on , . I wrong to depri ve the'Crowti il the power of par- • eonsequerit happipesaol this country, morethan the . of the cm ithe. The epinions of the vars higli Law (lolling. Without wishing to deprive the Crown of intr(Cduatien of a system by which the penal caie Autherities appeared to ie paired, lie foulghtthere that potver, it was quite another thing to endeavour would be weakened. The scverity'ot that code was ' fore be Juetitied in forming has own. His on. i• by indirect meens to lessen that power, for it was" the price we paid . for our . liberties. ~! and Letiraed friend (the Solicitor-General) ha& never tetencied thatolue King sheet(' !ewe the power - Mr. WILB . ERFoRCE could not conceive that our said, it wil'‘ strange that the seterity of the punish of administering the lask's generally, either under the - liberties could be infriogad,' or our happiness di- : Meet should pri,duce, so greti aii effed on a ll but advice of the Judges, hale Secretaries of State, or 7 minishecl by a miligation•of tit* Penal code. - TWo those on whom it was' to be infiict e o. Th e ill-re any other person whatsoever. In answer to those . -• hundred years age that penal code was much more gulated mind of a hardened seiner, inflarned by the who objeded to ariy.general innottation of the laws, rigidly, enforced: .Since that period the number of prospect of gain,would, from the: A' in ti cquency of the he would reply, that if laws were, from the change . capital pueisinuents had gradually decreased, and 'inflicting of the punishment detiotinced by tt.e law, of circumstances and opinions, fallen int o di suse , .yet our lib e rti es had been more generally diffused-- . more.readily braveethe dangar thus iticun'ed than' a . would it rot be wiser policy to make new la ws m ore more deeply founded, and more thoroeghly under- ; well-regulated mind would risk the possibility of confoiroable to the times? . The. discretion which stood. The question before the House was, whe- : condemning a tnan to death unjustly. It had been was to be left in the Judge waenot that of life and ther the punishment of death ought lo be annexed said that though die capital puiiisbiocrit was s e ldom death, but as to the,deert ee of pemisliment to be in.' to 'die crimes under disc u ssi o n ? i nt hi s op i n i on it inflicted on such offenders,- n a y diti ' not pe flitted, and when th a t p un i s h ment was known t h e , ought no t. B e tho ug ht th at th e eyes o f t h e coup- i trantportation and 'other ettnishments., This esca wal sarne'reptignance in parties to prosecute might not I try were gradually opening to the defeEts of our cri- true, after convitition the pariuts did not wholly exist.. Be would'agree to the Bill of his Hon. and 1 urinal law.; and, 'he trusted, that by the.adopt iota escape ; buf in t two previous eitotet there was the Learned Friend, because it was an experiment which iof the • confinement of criminals in penitentiary . chanese•d'f death or of opal to - v. 1114. It would be. . • he thought might be • safely tried, and which in his houses, crimes would be more frequently prevented, desirable to remove front Juries any temptationeo bumble opinion would prove efficacious. • and criminals rendered loss injurious" to seciety.— peijury, however benevolent their motives nit ht The Aoroesiee-GeNeeee slid, that without en• , With respect to the comparison of the Hon. 'Gen- -be ; and it wotlid iv -e better ttOt to persevere it a . teripg at large into the consideration of the general tiernan who had preceded_ him, he shooed tuertay syeem affording such faciliiles for escape, but doing . system upon which his Honourable and Learned , saya that if.the owner oldie house which that Hint. away the Severer punistun e ett increase the p re b ae Friend opposite proceeded, be would confine hint- 1 Gentleman badimagined, had fired his blunderbuss bility of tie offenders beitig . visited by the lesser. In hefselfeo some observations on the Bill immediately 1 1872 times, and had only hit once, be would not' aeling thus they would rut, no risk ef shakiog tee . ore the House. It bad been argued that the lire- have excited much alarm in his neighbourhood.— whole s} stem. No dread of innovation could be sent law preventeCtotfend,rs iron being brou g h t t o I Such w as t he pr o p ort i on betwe e n those; who, ac- felt, equal to drat which miitht have been eutettain punishmenee - that it deterred prosecutors, that it cording to the existing law, had . rendered them- :ed when the law was Made, after it had.. b ' 1 been seen bittsieti tviteeasee, and that it influenced Juries. . .4, s telvee - liable to tepeel ppnishment, and ttedse Who that in the course Of 4 co D wry: the Crime . and the far as his experience went his 7Cdneltuious were of t Lad suffered it. He thought a case had heini fairly nunislineent 'were so seldom f d it ' - - - .• i U N( at 01 at it to tit .~'. f e it _ ~~\