The Sun. — London, England, 1864-11-26 00:00:00

THE SVN, LONDON, SATURDAY.EVENN tr Disraeli and Mr Cardwell on Church Matters, OXFORD, Friday. A meeting of the Association for Augmenting Toor Benefices in the Diocese of Oxford was held this afternoon in the Sheldonian Theatre—the Bishop of Oxford in the chair. The attendance, which was very large, included the Right Hon. E. Cardwell, M.P, ; the Right Hon. B. Disraeli, M.P. ; r W. Walter, M.P. ; Mr Hubbard, M.P.; Colonel North, M.P.; Mr Beresford Hope, the Vice.Chan cello; and several other leading members of the university. The Right Rev. CHAIRMAN, in opening the pro. ceedinge, said that the object of the meeting was to move the diocese and the friends of the Church gene rally to assist in amending the small endowments in the diocese. His lordship entered into a variety of statistics for the purpose of showing that, mu if all the livings were lumped together, and then die Tided, they would not produce more than £270 a-year to each. It could not be expected that a clergyman of the Church of England, educated as a gentleman, with gentlemanly feelings, could main tain his position, educate his family, and perform the functions appertaining to his office with the small amount which he received for his labours, and he trusted that such an effort would now be made as would place him in a much better position. (Cheers.) Mr WALTER, M.P., moved the first resolution— " That the very small endowment of so many small livings throughout the country is injurious to the best interests of the Church, and a reproach to the Wealth and civilisation of the age." Mr H. BARRETT seconded the motion, which was approved of. Mr CARDWELL, who was most cordially received, said—My Lord Bishop and gentlemen, 1 have very great pleasure in moving the resolution which has been placed in my hand, for I think that no object of public benevolence for which you could have assembled the clergy and laity of this diocese could possibly be higher in its character or more practical in its scope and object than that for which we are met together this day. (Cheers.) The position of the parochial clergy must ever be an object of primary interest to a Chris tian land. (Hear, hear.) It would not become me as a layman to speak of that which is their highest attribute, their special character, their sacred calls leg. As a layman, I would rather speak of those great services to the moral and social welfare of the monarchy in which it is permitted to us, the laity, to participate with them. We know them as the friends and companions of the rich, but to the poor they are the guides and the advisers in every season of adversity. (Cheers.) They are the link which unites the different classes of society together and they are the welcome channel through which flows the stream of kindliness to the poor which mitigates their privations, and which ensures their comforts. Nor are these, the humblest duties of their calling, any part of their high religions voca tion. In the eloquent work which one of the most eloquent of Frenchmen, M. Guizot, wrote on the characteristics of the present age, when speaking of the unceasing efforts of the rich to promote the welfare of the poor, and the confidence of the poor in the kindliness and benevolence of the rich, he wound up with the eloquent words, " These aro the virtues of Christianity, faith, and charity and hope." And now I appeal to my brother laymen whether, in undertaking any case of social improvement they do not feel that their success de pends in a very great degree upon their enlisting the aid and assistance of the clergy. Take, for in• stance, the building of a school. The landlord may raise the material edifice. He may pay the stipend of the master, he may invite the scholars to attend, but in 99 cases out of every 100 the teaching is superintended by the clergyman. It is ho who gives to the establishment its vitality and its animating power. (Cheers.) And so, if you pursue him through every work of real usefulness—it you examine the attempt to build dwellings for the labourers, or to raise societies for the promotion of their temporal or their future welfare, in every one of these cases we may labour as wo will, but we always rely in a very great degree upon the support and assistance of the clergy. (Cheers.) I do not think it would be too much to say that, in the warfare which we are now actually waging against all those evils that oppress the lower classes of society, we, the laity, are the volunteers, but the clergy deserve to be considered as the regular army. (Cheers.) It has been said that within the last 50 years the greatest improvement has taken place in the ma terial prosperity of the country. When the sovereigne of Europe visited this country,and were received with a magnificent demonstration in the hall in which we are now assembled, one of them made a remark which is very agreeable to the na tional vanity—so much so that it has been remem bered ever since. He said, "England is a country in which I could see no poor." Now, if that same observer could have stood here to-day, he would have learnt that although in England there are poor, yet such has been the change during 50 years that have passed that the England of this day is as superior to that of 1814 as the England of 1814 was superior to the country with which he compared it. (Cheers.) There has been an increase of material prosperity with respect to which no country can be compared with our own. It has been widely dis tributed—it has been spread over all classes. The rich have become richer—the poor have become Ices poor. But I am afraid there is one class of the community who have not participated and taken their fair share in the great increase of material prosperity. Greatly as the parochial clergy contri bute to the distribution of these blessings, I am afraid their participation in them has not been re latively what it ought to have been. (Hear, hear.) Thirty years ago much was said about building churches, and large sums of money were expended for that purpose. Very recently much was said about the churches of parishes, Sir Rnbert Peel and the noble duke whose absence we regret to day, passed useful measures for the division of parishes. In church building and the division of parishes much has been done. Lord Derby, I should think at a great sacrifice to himself, divided the richest living in the country—the most valuable piece of ecclesiastical patronage of that description. What remains to be done is to increase the endow. meats. Much has been done in that direction, but still more remains to be done. Allusion has been made to gentlemen who have contributed large sums towards the increase of those endowments. Refer ence has been made to the measure which passed in the last session, on the motion of the Lord Chan cellor, for the improvement of the poor livings of the Crown. Bat, a hilst exigency on the one hand increases, and the material wealth and prosperity of the country increases on the other, these two should be brought together, and the contributions from assemblies like this should be poured in to meet the wants of the times in which we live. It was an old remark and a very true one, that a house going clergy makes a church-going people. Bat if you are to have a house-going clergy, it is not the clergyman alone whose visits are beneficial and acceptable to the people. The visits of the ladies of his family are most highly appreciated, and are still more advantageous and beneficial than his own. But if you are to enable him to make these visits, you must enable him to maintain a family, and to obtain for the sons and daughters of that family an education which is worthy of the children of a scho lar and a gentleman. (Loud cheers.) Reference has been made to another topic on which I will very lightly touch. We cannot safely afford to have the education of our clergy and the mental power of our clergy reduced. I am not alarmed at what I see around me in the temper of the present age. I teliee ethers is a deeper and more sincere convic tion abroad in this age than in former ages, but I am sure of this, that we do not live in times when the citadel of truth should be defended by feeble hands ; and if arms of precision are brought to bear upon the fortress, we should have a garrison within not untrained in the art of defence. (Cams.) Over the surface of the globe, wherever British enter. prise can penetrate—and that means wherever the sun shines, wherever land exists and waters roll, the British name is spread—and wherever the Bri• tish name is found the English Church is domiciled. (Cheers.) But I wish to ask you whether, when great sums of money are wisely and worthily ex. pended in sending bishops and missionaries to the remotest corners of the globe, it is honourable that here in Oxford—in the very centre of the English Church—there should any longer be such a want to supply as that which now exists P And lam sure this great meeting will not separate without doing something effectual to meet the exigenc'.es which have been placed befora them. (Cheers.) I will now move—" That this meeting trusts that the diocese of Oxford will not be behindhand in remedying this evil, and pledges itself to the endeavour." (The right hon. gentleman resumed his seat amidst loud cheering.) Mr DISRAELI then rose to second the motion, and was received with several rounds of enthusi' astio cheering. The right hon. gentleman said—My Lord Bishop, I can heartily second the motion that has been made by my right hon. friend, because it expresses only a feeling and a re• solution which in that part of the diocese with which I am more immediately connected, and which, in a certain sense, I may say I represent to.day, I have exerted myself to the utmost in order to find there a response which should carry into effect the reso lution which my right hon. friend has moved. I must say, however, that though some degree of sympathy has been found among some individuals, and sympathy has been expressed in a manner most energetic, the general result has not been in my opinion adequate to the greatness of the cause and to the character of those institutions which have been established in this diocese. It is a very diffi cult—perhaps I may say a more delicate than diffi cult—subject to touch upon; but it appears to me that it is necessary that upon this matter we should have very clear ideas. Those diocesan institutions which are established in the diocese of Oxford, and not so fully and completely, but in some degree are also established in, I believe, all the dioceses of England, in fact sustain, or rather would sustain and complete the parochial system of this country; and their object is to adapt the machinery of the Church to the ever fluctuating circumstances in the condition of the nation. There are two reasons why I think these institutions have not yet received in this country that support which sometimes I flatter myself I foresee they will acquire. In the first place it mast be remembered that those institutions are of a novel character. They have, conparatively speak• ing, only been recently established in this country; and in the next place—and that is a much more important consideration—it is a matter on which it is very requisite that we should have a clear con. ception. Those diocesan institutions have been established in England during a periud in which the Church has been, with reference to the State, in a condition of transition. Now, some 40 years ago or less a very great change took place in the consti tution of this country ; it was, in fact, a revolu tion. But when the principle of religions liberty was adopted as a principle of the political consti. tution of the country, an effect was produced im mediately upon the position of the Church. That party who are opposed to the Church in this country—and we cannot flatter ourselves that there ever will be a period in a country like England when there will not be an anti-Church party—that party, very naturally and very reasonably, of course for the object of advancing their views, called public attention to the anomaly which the Church in this country presented the moment the political constitution had adopted the principle of religious liberty. Until that . ...bulge the Parliament of England had been a lay synod, and they naturally said, "If you have a Legislature composed of those who are not in the communion of the Church your boasted union between Church and State must, of course, expire, and the fall of the Church is at hand." Now if, under these circum stances, we had only to meet the natural oppo nents of the Church, I think the position of the Church would not have been one of difficulty ; but unfortunately some of the best friends of the Church,--men who for their elevated character, their sincere principles, and their learning and devotion, could not for a moment be looked upon with an eye other than friendly by the Church and by Churchmen—were so alarmed by what they con sidered must be the logical consequences of that revolution, that, although for a perfectly distinct object and for a contrary purpose, they counselled the same policy as the anti-Church party itself and the dissolution of Church and State. An alarming opinion was promulgated and looked upon with favour by those whom Churchmen knew sympa thised with them entirely in all the great objects for which a Church is instituted. The consequence of this state of afflirs was a condition of great perplexity among Churchmen—great timidity, great apparent inconsistency of conduct, sometimes apathy, because tilts , did not know to what object to devote their energies; sometimes perhaps a fantastic though natural action ; but the practical result was that there was no long er a cordial co-operation among all chines of Churchmen for those objects in which the interests of the Church were concerned ; and all those diocesan societies so admirably adap'ed to the wants of the Church, and which would in their practice, as well as in their theory, have completed the parochial system of this country, were launched at a time when cordial cooperation between Churchmen, for the reason I have alleged, was really impossible; and that is one of the main reasons why that support has not been received by thosa institutions which they might have counted upon. But during this period, and especially during the last 30 years, when this principle of religions liberty which was adopted some time before—a principle which I am sure no Churchman now wishes to disturb or distrust—dur• ing this period, when this principle was developed and carried to its completeness, a paralysis was thrown upon the mild action of Churchmen. But then this remarkable circumstance happened, which indeed has happened before in this country, that the question of Church and State had been so dis cussed by the nation generally, had been so de liberated upon, had been so considered and pondered over, that the nation arrived at a result which may not have been as logical as the result of the anti. Church party, or of our alarmed friends, but which was a solution, like all solutions of great questions in England, not perhaps logical bat essentially practical—the country came to the determination that the union of Church and State is perfectly con sistent with the existence and complete development of the principle of religious liberty. (Cheers.) Now all the points that were urged then during the period of transition to which I have referred have been considered and solved by the country. Men who are of very temperate opinions, representing, I believe, the general opinion of this country, have considered that if you logically terminated the con nection between Church and State, it was not pro. bable, for example, that in this age and in this coun try an imporium in imperio could be tolerated by the State. They saw it was most improbable that the Church, if the alliance were terminated, would be allowed to remain in the possession of its consider able property and great privileges. They knew very well that the Government of this country, knowing the importance of the religious principle as one of the elements of governing mankind, would never allow it to run waste and wild in society. They foresaw that that would happen in this country which had happened in other countries where the alliance between Church and State has been terminated, or churches have been confiscated or plundered, namely, that the process of ministers of all religions being salaried by the State would take place; and there was a general feeling in this country that if that did occur, there would be some thing besides religious truth that might be endan gered, and that political liberty itself would be im perilled. (Loud cheers.) The country, therefore, after well discussing the question for years, arrived at that practical conclxsion. Well, there was another point. It had been held that it was im possible th at the Church could longer exist in this country in c onsequence of the dis sent. But during upon a statistical age.great spread of by the nation, and it this period of transition we fell discovered Statistics th w a e t r e the s r t e ud h i a e d d dissent not been a Spread of dissent had diminished —tr ee ; that, on the contrary, speaking of—that the —true religious dissent I am Puri tan families, of whom I des cendants shll of the old the respect which their higha a i l . ways speak with qua tties and historical character deserve,were almost merged in the Church, and that on the plea of a spread of dissent there was in fact no reason for supposing that the Church should not be maintained in its original constitu tional position. (Hear, hear.) There was another very important point which occupied the attention of the country, that being the question which was placed so prominently by the anti-Church party before the country generally, namely, the contrast of the ChurCh with those millions of the population who had either escaped its influence or certainly were not in communion with it. But the reault of deliberating over that startling condition of affairs was this—the country come to a conclusion exactly the reverse of that which the opponents of the Church wished to instil into the public mind. For, knowing the religions character of the people of England, it was argued that if there are millions who are not in communion with the National Church, because they never had the opportunity of being connected with it; if that is the case, it is our duty to provide and support a machinery which, when the oppor tunity offers, will be able to deal with this popula tion, and, in fact, instruct them in those great truths in respect of which their tuition has been neglected. It so happened, therefore, that the country itself solved the question in a manner which may not ' have been logical, but was essentially practical. (Cheers.) And while the anti-Church party and a considerable and most respectable section of Church men were discussing whether it was not prudent to terminate the alliance between Church and State, the period of transition passed, because the nation itself had come to the determination that the union between Church and State should be supported. I may take this to be the truth, that it arrived at that result some three years ago, after many years' dis cussion, as is the custom in England when great principles of policy are at stake, and I believe that that is the secret reason and the real cause of the ' change which has taken place in Parliament upon the subject of church rates. (Hear.) That subject of church rates is a matter no doubt of great im portance ; when we consider that in the Parliament which voted their abolition by a large majority, in the course of a very few years there was a majority in their favour, it can only be accounted for by this cause, that the country having determined to cup port the union between Church and State, having determined that the constitution should not be changed, and that practically its establishment was consistent with the full development of religious liberty, the country seized upon that question by which to impress upon Parliament that it had re solved that that change should not take place. The consequence of this state of affairs was very im• portant, because 30 or 40 years ago there was an alternative for the Church, and it might have been open to the Church to abdicate its nationality or to assert it, bat there was no middle course. (Blear, hear.) The country has resolved that its nationality shall not be abdicated, and the con sequence is that the Church must assert that nationality. (Loud cheers.) And, my lord, I re member, I think some three years ago, at a meeting of one of the diocesan societies where I had the honour of addressing you—l am not sure that it was not this very society—l ventured very briefly to point out the measures by which t thought that nationality of the Church might be asserted, prac tically asserted—and although I would not now enter into any details on that subject, I will notice them briefly, because it will complete the position from which I wish to draw some inference to affect the opinion of the meeting of to-day. I said then I thought there were five modes by which the na tionality of our Church should be asserted, and it being not only a duty but a necessity that that nationality should be asserted. Can it be asserted i❑ a practical manner ? That is the question. I said then that there were five measures by which I thought that practically that nationality could be asserted. I said, in the first place, with regard to the question of education. 1 hold that it is of the utmost importance that the Church should not in any way compromise that legitimate position which it occupies now with reference to the question of education—a position which the Church has ob tained by national circumstances, and which is sanctioned by law. (Loud cheers.) Secondly, I thought another practical measure for asserting its nationality was to support, not a wild and extrava gant plan, but a temperate and moderate plan for the extension of tl'e episcopate. (Renewed ap plause.) The third measure was, that in all eccle siastical matters which were not of a strictly spiritual nature the assistance of the laity ehou]d be called into co operation with the clergy—(hear, hear)—in order that we should erase from the public mind that vulgar, but pernicious error that the Church is an ecc'esiastical corporation. (Cheers) The fourth measure which I then ventured to say should be adopted was to assert the rights and the duties of Churchmen as they exist in our parochial constitu tion, and which are secured to them by law. And the fifth measure which I then impressed upon the as sembled diocese was to support and uphold those diocesan institutions to support one of which we are met this day. Now, in my opinion, these were measures temperate in conception, practical in exe cution, and if they were carried—and I believe they might be carried—for they are thoroughly adapted to the temper of the times, would add amazingly to the efficiency of the Church. As I am upon that subject I will venture to say also that there are three other measures which I think ought now to engage the attention of Churchmen. The first is, that we should in every possible manner favour the formation of Convocation on a broader basis, and with a fuller representation of the paro chial clergy. (Loud cheers.) It is not necessary nor convenient to enter into details on such a subject now; but I would just intimate that if the two provinces were united the basis would be much broader, and that at this moment in the province of York the parochial clergy are more fully repre sented than they are in the province of Canterbury, I think there is something ridiculous in the fact that in the bishopric of London, for example, where there are a thousand clergy, they are re• presented in Convocation by two parochial clergy men only, (Hear, hear,) The meet measure is one which I may induce my right hon. friend (elr Cardwell) to undertake—and that is to place the relations of our Colonial Church, which remember is not an established Church, in a more satisfactory condition than they are at present. (Hear, hear.) And the last measure—in my mind a paramount one—is the formation of some tribunal of last appeal in spiritual matters. (Loud and continued plau dits.) It appears to me that the circumstances of the day imperatively demand this. I know the difficulty—l know the delicacy of the question. Still, after giving it that consideration which its importance deserves, I am apt to believe that diffi culties may be overcome, and the most delicate cir cumstances connected with it may be treated in a happy manner. I do believe that, with that due and necessary full consideration of the principle of the royal supremacy, which I trust may never be lost sight of for an instant, it is possible to re■ concile the requirements of the State with the conscience of the Church. (Cheers.) Now allow me to repeat what en a previous occasion, some years ago, I had the honour of mentioning to you that the object of this measure is to restore the Church to its natural and, I may say, original effi ciency, by means which I think aro essentially practical, and which are in tone and in harmony with the spirit of the age in which we live . ; and I cannot but believe that, with cordial co-operation— or rather, I would say I could not but believe, that with cordial cooperation among Churchmen—these eight measures might be carried. My lord, they form a Church policy perfectly complete, perfectly practical, and perfectly efficient. I see no argument that can fairly be urged against them, and it ap• pears to me that if these eight objects were attained the Church in this country wo•ild occupy a position of great influence and salutary power which it has not for a long period fulfilled and occupied. (Cheers.) Well, my lord, I had hoped that when I should have the honour of addressing you again on matters connected with these societies I might have been able to congratulate you that the inconsistency, and timidity, and perplexity which have paralysed the fortunes of Churchmen for so many years would have entirely disappeared. I did think that cordial so-operation might have been expected from all classes of Churchmen after the significant manner in which the country decided that no disunion be tween the Church and State should take place, but that the old constitution of the country was con. nected with the fulfilment of the principle of civil and religious liberty. I thought that we might then have forgotten all our differences, and that with open heart and united spirit we might have laboured with perseverance, with temper, with no expectation of precipitate success, but with the determination of men who really see a practical object before them; that we might have worked for the attainment of the measures which I have noticed to day, and which in my mind form a complete Church policy. But I am sorry to say that on the part of the diocese with which I am connected I still find that difficulties are in existence ; and although they are different from those which we have encountered before, they ate of a nature which paralyse in a great degree the efforts which would be made for The support of diocesan so cieties, and especially of this which we are gathered toge ther to support. My right hon. friend has himself touched with delicacy, but with clearness, upon the nature of those difficulties. We are now told that the Church is in a very difficult position, and that its condition is not satisfactory; and these pleas are made the argument, and I have no doubt in many cases the conscientious ground, for not joining to gether and supporting associations like the present. But this I observe, in contrast with the difficulties that we had to encounter three or four years ago, that the nature of the difficulty is of a perfectly different character. In old days, during the period of transition which I have sketched, the Church was accused of apathy, having no hold on the feel ings of the great mass of the population, of exercising little influence, and its fall was prophesied in consequence of those circumstances. But the tone has now changed. No one ace cuses the church of not possessing influence. No one accuses the Church of,wanting power or intelligence. But they say it is still doomed, the Church must still fall, it is still in greater danger than ever, and that danger comes not from an anti-Church party, but from its own intestine dissensions and from the differences that exist in its own bosom, lam not here to deny, or, what is more, to regret the existence of parties in the Church. Parties in the Church have always existed. They existed in the Church at Jerusalem. They existed in the Church at Ephesus. They existed always in the Church at Rome. And it would be wonderful indeed, in a country like England, where party has always been recog nised as the most efficient and satisfactory way of regulating opinion and conducting public affairs, if party should not be found in the Church alone. My lord, what is party P Party is organised opinion; and as long as the nature of man is of that various and varying character which we all know it is, so long will there be various and varying modes by which it will express itself,or by which it may be counsel led upon religious matters. There are some who are sustained by symbolical ceremonies, and feel that their soul is only ado quately satisfied by ecclesiastical arrangements of that cha racter. (Hear, hear, and laughter.) There are others wbo can only be sustained by the ecstacy of spiritual enthusiasm but as long as they who counsel or pursue these modes meet on the common platform of the true, sound Church prin ciples—and I hold that the acknowledgment of the Church as the sacred depository of divine truth is a true Church principle-1 do not think that such a course of conduct is to be regretted ; but on the whole I have no doubt that it has been extremely advantageous to the country and to the Church. And I believe that the two great parties in the Church have effected as great advantages in the Church as the two great parties in the constitution have achieved for public liberty and the good government of the country. (Hear, hear.) But there is yet another party to which I must for a moment refer, because, no doubt, the influence of that party upon that cordial co-operation of Churchmen by which alone these societies can be effectively supported is very great, and I cannot say that it is advantageous. Now, that is a party which is described by an epithet which I have observed that a distinguished prelate of the Church has used in a recent address to his clergy, but which appears to me to be en epithet that I should not use within these classic walls, for it has hardly as yet entered into the category of classical expressions. (Laughter.) It is an epithet, my lord, that would imply a particular degree of comprehension. (Hear, and another laugh) But, whilst fully acknowledging the great abilities, Ihe great eloquence, and the great know ledge of the new Church party to which I am alluding,l must say that there is this peculiarity about the comprehension which they attempt to accomplish. Hitherto there has been nothing new in a Church party aiming at the comprehensive —but then this has always happened, that the comprehension which they have aimed at has been possible. (Hear, and a laugh.) They have always wished to include those who be lieved anything ; but the remarkable peculiarity of the com prehension of the party to which I now refer is this, that they seem to wish to include everybody who believes no thing. (Laughter,) Now, there is no doubt that the influ ence of the new party is very injurious to the society whose interests have called us together to-day—and if we attempt to get rid of the difficulty by avoiding to speak out, we in fact do not remedy our position, but the deleterious process from which we are suffering goes on without any effort on the part of our friends to oppose its evil consequences. The chairman having, as I think, successfully encountered the unsatisfactory condition of mind among Churchmen which was the consequence, and the long consequence, of the change in our constitution—having overcome that difficulty, and Churchmen having it in their power, by the measures to which I have referred, to place by their cordial co-ope ration the Church in its proper position in this country, and establish these diocesan societies in full work and in fluence, I want, if my friends will permit me, or care to hear my observations,to make a few remarks upon the new diffi culty with which we have to devil, for it would be unwise to treat the existence and influence of this new party with con tempt, and consider whether the difficulties which no doubt exist are insuperable—whether we must yield to them, or whether we have a prospect of overcoming them. Now, this party is not founded upon the principle of authority— on which all Church parties hitherto in this country, an d in all countries to some degree, have been founded. But it is founded upon a very singular p r i nc i p l e. It is founded upon the principle of criticism. Now, doubt is an clement : a c t .dh tendency is quite a philosophical possible, fo r a and example,not Y of criticism is necessarily in of that popularea ;l t rt a ii ct partyacli.s criticism, ri w oau: h lside i o c ut h htsh i e2 s ee f ent inded upon the principle of criti cism may arrive at conclusions which may be monstrous. They may, for example, reject inspiration as a principle, and miracles as a practice. That is possible. And I fithrlie; logical that, h aving arrived at that should repudiat e cree d s an d re j ec t arti tchoinnekluistionis, cles of faith, because creeds and articles of faith cannot exist or be i s ustained without acknow ledging the principle of inspiration and the practice of mi racles. (Hear, hear.) All that I admit ; but what Ido not understand, and what I wish to draw the attention of this assembly and of the country to is this—that having arrived at this conclusion —having arrived conscientiously at the conclusion that with these opinions such a party must re pudiate creeds and reject articles, that they should not carry their principles to their le g it imate conclusion ; but that, re pudiating creeds and rejecting articles, they are still the supporters of the ecclesiastical establishments—(loud cheers) —fervent upholders of the dignitaries of the Church—even of the rectors, vicars, and curates. (Laughter.) Now, this is a matter of enact consider as Churchmen, but for the country generally to consider, whatever may be its opinion on forms of faith — for the position may be very critical. If it were true, as I am told it is, that the age of faith has passed, then the posi tion of having a hierarchy) a vast hierarchy, apparently supported by men of high cultivation, brilliant talents and eloquence, and perhaps some ambition, with no distinctive opinion, might be a very harmless state of affairs, but it would not certainly be a very permanent one. But, then, my lord, instead of believing that the age of faith has passed, when I observe what is passing around me—what is taking place in this country, and not only in this country, but in other countries and hemispheres—instead of believing that the age of faith has passed, I hold that the characteristic of the present age is a craving credulity. (Laughter.) Why, i my lord, man is a being born to believe. (Cheers.) And t you do not come forward—if no Church comes forward with its title deeds of truth, sustained by the traditions of seve• ral ages, and by the conviction of countless generations to guide him, he will form altars and idols in his own heart and his own imagination, (Cheers.) But observe this. What must be the relations of a powerful Church, without distinctive creeds, with a being of that nature ? Why, of course, the great principle of political economy will be observed. Where there is a great demand there will be a proportionate supply ; and commencing, as the new school may, by rejecting the principle of inspiration, it will end by every priest being a prophet—and beginning as they do by repudiating the practice of miracles before long, rest assured, we shall bo living in a flattering scene of spiritual phantasmagoria. (Cheers and laughter.) There are no tenets, howeverrextravagant, and no practices, however objectionable, which will not in time develop, under such a state of affairs—opinions the most absurd, and ceremonies the most revolting. " Qualls, demoud Zgyptus portcnta solar," Perhaps to be followed by the incantation of Canidia and the Corpbanthian howl, (Great cheering and laughter.) But consider the country in which all this may take place. Dangerous in all countries, it would be yet more dangerous in England. Our empire is now unrivalled for its extent— but the base, the material base, of that empire is by means equal to- the colossal superstructure. It is not our iron ships. It is not our celebrated regiments. It is not these things which have created, or indeed really maintain our empire. It is the character of the people. (Much applause,) And I want to know where that famous character of the English people will be if they are to be influenced and guided by a Church of immense talent and great wealth and power with out any distinctive creed. (Hear; hear.) You have in this country accumulated wealth that probably never has been equalled, and probably it will still increase. You have a luxury that will come day probably rival even your wealth; and the union of such circumstances with a Church with out a distinctive creed will, lead, I believe, to a dissoluteness of manners and of morals that has been seldom equalled in the history of man, but which furnishes the tombs of em pires. (Cheers.) There is another point in connection with this subject which I cannot help noticing on the present oc casion. It is the common blunder—the common cry—that ar ticles of faith and religious creeds are the arms of the clergy, and are used to tyrannise over the land. They are exactly INOVEMBER 26, 1864. the reverse. The precise creed and the strict article are the title deeds of the laity to the religion which has des scended to them. (Hear, hear.) And whenever these ques tions have been brought before Parliament, I have always opposed alterations of creeds, articles, and subscriptions on this broad principle—that the security and certainty which they furnish are the special privileges of the laity, and that you cannot tell in what position the laity will be if that security is withdrawn. (Cheers.) I must apologise for having touched upon this subject; but it appears to me—l know it from my own experience--to be one vitally con nected with the subject that has called us here to-day, because the opinions of the new school are paralysing the efforts of many who ought to be our friends. Before I con clude I cannot but ask myself this question. Will these opinions succeed ? Is there a possibility of their success? My conviction is that they will fail. (Cheers.) Ido per fect justice to the great talent, the great knowledge, and the considerable information which the new party command; but I believe they will fail—for two reasons. In the first place, having examined all their writings—l believe with out any exception—whether they consist of fascinating eloquence, diversified learning, or picturesque sensibility— (laughter)—l speak seriously what 1 feel—and that too exercised by one honoured in this University, and whom to know is to admire and regard ; or whether you find them in the etude conclusions of prelates who appear to me to have commenced their theological studies after they grasped the crozier —(loud cheers and laughter)—and who intro duce to society their absolcte discoveries with the startling wonder and the frank ingeniousness of their own savages —(great laughter and cheers)—or whether I read the lucu brations of nebulous professors—(laughter)—who appear in their style to have revived chaos—(loud cheers)—and who, if they could only succeed in obtaining a perpetual study of their writings, would go far to realise that eternal punish ment to which they object. (Cheers.) Lastly, whether it bo the provincial arrogance and precipitate self-compla cency which lash and glare in an essay or review —(cheers, laughter, and a hiss)—l find that the common charac teristic in all their writings is this, that their learn ing is always second-hand. (Cheers, laughter, and slight hisses, followed by immense cheering.) I do not say that because learning is second-hand it may not be sound, or that knowledge because it is second-hand may not be true. But this I do say, without any fear of denial from any man competent to give an opinion upon the sub ject—(laughter)—that there is something in original re search so invigorating to the intellect, and which so braces and disciplines the human mind, that those who have un dergone the process arrive at their conclusions with great caution and with great circumspection ; but when a man of brilliant imagination has to deal with a vast quantity of facts which have been furnished by the labours of others, he is taunted too often to generalise with a fatal facility, and often arrives at conclusions which in time he not only repudiates but often has to refute. (Cheers.) la the second place, when I examine those who have been the masters of the new school in this learning, men who undoubtedly have gone through the process of original research, and have not found their e quals for learning and perseverance and erudite assiduity for many generations—the great scholars of Ger many —I find this in their labours. Doing full justice to their qualities I find this in their labours, that there is really nothing new. (Laughter and cheers.) I will admit their great qualities; as Hebraists they are equal to the great scholars who flourished at the end of the 17th century. In their knowledge of the comic semftie dialect they are infi nitely superior. In the new theory, or science of language, as it is justly called, they have of course an advantage which the old scholars have not shared with them, because it is a science that has only been developed in our own time. But this I do say, that in all important conclusions from the alleged materials of the Book of Genesis down to the forma. tion of the canon, and in every important event, historical, literary, and spiritual, that occurred in that long interval, they have been anticipated by the great Hebrew scholars who ft mrished in the 18th century. (Cheers,) I know it may be said, and they have said it, that the suggestions of Astruc or the investigations of Father Simon were known only to those who like them lived in their cells and their col leges ; but this is a vulgar and delusive error. The discovo ries of those men, unrivalled for learning in the age in which they flourished, formed the mind and inspired the labours of the two greatest bodies of intellectual beings that have existed certainly since the Greek philosophers, and who were superior to the schoolmen—the freethinkers of Eng land and the philosophers of France. Therefore, the con clusions of these great men—these great scholars—were placed before the public mind. All that inexorable logic, all that irresistible rhetoric, all that the most bewildering wits could avail themselves of to popularise those views, were placed before the minds of the two leading nations of Europe —the people of England and the people of France. And they produced their effect. The greatest of revolutions was, I will not say, occasioned by these opinions, but no one can deny that the promulgation of those opinions largely con tributed to that great revolution popularly called the French Revolution, which has not yet ended, and which is certainly the greatest event that ever happened in the history of man. Only the fall of the Roman empire can be compared to it; but that was going on for centuries, and so gradually, that it cannot for one moment be held to have powerfully or injuriously influenced the opinion of the world. Now, what happened ? Look at the ago in which we live, and the time when these opinions wero successfully promulgated by men who, .I am sure, with no intention to disparage the now party, I may venture to say were not unequal to them. Look at the Europe of the present day and the Europe of 100 years ago. It is not the same Europe. Its very form i s changed. Whole nations and great nations which then flour is eed are no longer felled, There is not a political constie tution in Europe existing at the present time which then existed. The leading community of the continent of Europe has changed all its landmarks, altered its boundaries, erased its local names---the whole jurisprudence of Europe has been altered—even the tenure of land, which of all human institu tions most affects the character of man, has been altered—the feudal system has been abolished. Nut merely laws have been changed, not merely manners have been changed, but customs have been changed. And what happened ? When the turbulence was over—when the shout of triumph and the wail of agOny were alike stilled—when, as it were, the waters had disappeared, the sacred heights of Sinai and of Calvary were again revealed, and amid the wreck of thrones and tribunals, of extinct nat:ons and abolished laws, man kind bowed again before the Divine truth that had been by the omnipotent power of His ineffable wisdom entrusted to the custody of and promulgation by a chosen people. (Loud cheers.) Well then, because all their views are second hand and nct new; because they have been already placed before the mind of man with a power and spirit that it is in vain to expect will be again equalled ; because, after so many sor rows and purified by so much suffering, mankind have re jected this new learning which is bolstered up for our edifi cation. I believe that the effects of this new school, power ful as they are and influential at this moment, and most injurious in these diocesan societies, will fail. (Cheers.) Before sitting down there is only one other point I will touch upon in reference to them. We are told every day that all I may have feebly expressed to you may be true; but at the same limo there is a characteristic of the present age which never existed in preceding ages, and which must be ruinous and destructive to the Church and to all religious establish ments, and that is the progress of science. the teachings of science and its discoveries are not, we are told, consistent with the teachings of the Church. Now lam sure there is not one in this theatre who is not prepared to do full justice to the merits of scientific men, and who does not fully ap preciate those discoveries of science which have added so much to the convenience of life and the comfort of man. But it is of great importance when this tattle about science is mentioned that we should annex to it precise ideas. I hold that the highest function of the service is the inter pretation of nature, and the interpretation of the highest nature is the highest science. What is the highest nature ? Man is the highest nature. But I must say that when you compare the interpretation of the highest nature with the most advanced, the most fashionable and modish school of modern science—compare that with some other teachings with which we aro familiar—l am not prepared to say that a lecture room is more scientific than the Church. (Cheers.) What is the question now placed before the society with a glib assurance the most astounding ? The question is this —is a man an ape or an angel ? (Loud laughter,) My lord, lam on the side of the angel. (Laughter and cheers.) I repudiate with indignation and abhorrence those views. (Cheers.) I believe they are foreign to the conscience of humanity, and I will say more, that even in the strictest intellectual point of view, I believe the severest metaphysi cal analysis is opposed to that conclusion. But, on the other hand, what does the Church teach us ? What is its interpretation of this highest nature ? It teaches us that man is made in the image of his Creator— a sourse of in spiration, of solace; a source from which can flow only and only every right principle of morals and every Divine truth. (Cheers.) I say therefore that when we are told that the teachings of the Church are not consistent with the disco veries of science, and that in that sense the inferiority of the Church is shown, I totally deny the proposition. (Cheers.) I say that the scientific teaching of the Church upon the most important of all subjects is, in fact, infinitely superior to anything that has been brought forward by any of those new discoveries. (Cheers.) In fact, it is between those two principles that society will have to decide. Upon our acceptance of that Divine truth of which the Church is the guardian all sound and coherent and sensible legislation depends. It is the only security for civilisation. It is the only guarantee of real progress. (Hear, hear.) Now, it is to promote, to foster, and to extend in this country, but mainly, of course, to pay in this diocese, the teaching of the Church that we are assembled here. Let us, if we can, carry out in spioit the resolution which has been moved by my right hon. friend. Let us act at least with united energy, with that cordial co-operation a hich, if Churchmen share, they will carry everything before them ; and the dis carding, as we have successfully discarded, all the attempts which for some time appeared to paralyse our efforts and circulate distrust amongst us from those who are the oppo nents of the Church and the Church principles. Let us equally discard those new-fangled ideas of this new party in the Church, which have extended only because persons are always captivated with a novelty, but which I think, as I have shown, is not extremely new; and let us by our united efforts support those measures to which I adverted at the commencement of my observations, and especially the actions or these diocesan institutions. (The right hon. gentleman here resumed his seat amidst vehement and protracted cheers.) The resolution was then put and agreed to. The subscription to the fund amounted to upwards of £5OO, and included £lOO from Mr Hubbard, M.P., £5O from Mr Cardwell, £2O from the Vice-Chancellor of the Univer sity, £lOO (in four yearly instalments) from Mrs White, £2O from Mr Walter, and numerous other sums of various amcunts. Railway and other Companies. GREAT NORTHERN. This company has given notice of intended appli cation to Parliament in the ensuing session for a line from the Wood-green station, passing through Southgate, Winchmore-hill, Enfield, Berkhampo stead, Cheshunt, Bishop's Hatfield, Bayford, to the Hertford, Luton, and Dunstable Railway at Hert ford, and a short spur in Hertingfordbury ; also a line from the Hornsey station to the new line near the boundary between the parishes of Edmonton and Tottenham, and a line to Digswell at a point one furlong south of the Welwyn viaduct. Another notice to apply for power to vest in the Great Northern and Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincoln , . shire Companies the undertakings of the Stockport and Woodley Junction, and the Stockport, Tim perly, and Altrincham Junction, the Cheshire Mid land, and the West Cheshire Railway Companies to construct a line from the Cheshire Midland at Great Bud worth to the rock pits at Marston, a lino wholly in the parish of Great Budworth to the salt works, and also a branch. Another notice of intended ap plication for power to make junction lines at Newark, Spalding, Essendine, and Barkstone, and a branch near Bradford. It is further proposed that the Great Northern Company on the one hand, and the Leeds, Bradford, and Halifax, and the Lanca shire and Yorkshire on the other hand, should be enabled from time to time to enter into agreements for the working, use, managements, &c., of the Bradford branches ; to authorise the company to contribute towards the cost of the Liverpool central station ; and to authorise the amalgamation of the company with the Leeds, Bradford, and Halifax Junction ; also to make a line from the Sleaford station to the Bourn and Essendine, at Bourn. HUDSON'S BAY. Tho report of the committee of this company states their intention of paying in January next a dividend of Bs. per share on the joint stock of the company, in anticipation of the result of the year's business, which cannot be ascertained until the 31st of May nest, when the accounts will be made up. The lands belonging to the company in Vancouver's Island and in British Columba and those in which it is interested will, no doubt, become a source of increased profit on account of the recent discoveries of fresh gold mines in these colonies, but the committee were scarcely in a position to turn them to the best account until all the questions connected with Vancouver's Island shall have been finally closed in legal form, and the arrangements with her Majesty's Government can be brought to an end. Another large item in the miscellaneous aggregate of property consists in the claim against the Government of the United States about to be arbitrated at Washington. The come missioners on both sides are probably at the present moment at Washington, and chief factor Dugald Mactavish has been sent to afford them the assist° ante of his local knowledge in arriving at the true value to be put upon the property affected by the Oregon treaty and the Convention of July, 1863. With regard to the construction of an electric tele• graph from Red River across the company's terri tory through British Columbia to New w es t m i n• ster, the report states that although the country between Red River and the Rocky Mountains was well-known to the officers of the company the com mittee thought it prudent to despatch Dr. Rae with an assistant for the purpose of examining and reporting on the best line for crossing the territory and traversing the Rocky Mountains between Fort Edmonton and the head waters of the Fraser River. Dr. Rae's report may be expected at any moment, and in the meantime a portion of the telegraphic wire and insulators are actually on the Mississippi, waiting only for the spring, to be sent up to Red River. Two other portions of the wire have been sent by sea to Victoria and York Factory respectively, as being at those points nearer their destination than they would be if sent through Canada and the United States. The warm thanks of the Hudson's Bay Company are due to the Grand Trunk Railway of Canada for the liberal manner in which they have assisted in the transport of the wire sent over their line, free of cost, and for their general aid to this enterprise. Telegraphic communication from the Pacific to the Atlantic across British territory must be an objet of the utmost importance, and the committee have no doubt, there:ore, that in itself this enterprise with ultimately prove advantageous to the company. The dividend is 3s. more than it was this time last year. Railway Traffic Returns for the Week. Miles Opened. Receipts. liallwaya. ~,..___....A...-...„......-..-.........__ 1864. 1863. 1864. 1863. £ 4 Belfast and N. Counties 136 136 2,001 1.964 Belfast and County Down 49 49 710 631 Blyth and Tyne gs 2 8 2,431 1 , 990 Bristol and Exeter l2l/ 1211 5,926 5,596 Caledonian Cambrian 9l 81 1,631 1,318 Cockermouth & Workington Bl 81 05 329 Cork and Bandon 2O 20 321 38 5 Cork, Blackrock, & Passage 6l 61 117 1. 0 Cork and Youghal Cornwall 651 651 1,226 1.235 Deeside ~ 17 17 292 2, 8 flublin & Belfast Junction.... 63 63 1,377 1.370 Dublin and Drogheda 75 75 1,580 1,6 .4 Dublin and Meath Dub. & Wicklow and Wextd 9ll 91 i 2,252 2,091 Furness, &c 5O 5 , ' 3,363 2,771 Glasgow & South-Western Gt. Eastern,Nrfk.,&E.Union Great Northern 387 353 36,216 33,070 Great North of Scotland 5B 58 1,613 1,632 Gt. Northn. & Westn. (Irel.) 7ll 711 460 477 '3(t.Southn. & Westn.(lrind.) 3871 3731 6,092 7,658 Great Western 12221 1169 62,142 69,113 Hull and llurnsea l3 _ 91 Inverness & Aberdeen June ll7/ 1063 1,358 1,181 Inverness & Perth Junction 1191 1191 1,533 5,309 Irish North-Western 145 145 1,772 1,49 Kent Coast 27 27 630 300 Lancashire & Yorkshire 403 401 33,792 34,340 Limerick and Ennis. Limerick and Foynes 26-1 262 147 131 Llanelly 461 461 6 5 555 Llynvi Valley London & North-Western London and Blackwall 62 61 1,714 1,769 I London & South-Western Lond. Brighton, &S. Coast 267 2611 17,079 16,024 London, Chatham, & Dover 72 221 6,832 4,800 Do. Metropolitan Extension 114 104 1,490 1,040 Lou., Tilbury, & Southend Man.,Shetileid, & Lincolnsh Manch. S.Jun.&Altrincham 94 ti 1,206 1,2;9 Maryport and Carlisle Metropolitan Midland (incl. N.-Western) 6611 611 45,748 41,623 Midland G t.Wes tn. of irind 262 2594 4,317 5 , 625 Monkland 714 714 1,612 1,661 Monmoutlish. Hail. & Canal 4l 14 2,837 2,574 North British, Edin., Perth _ __ and Dundee N-Eastern and Stock. & Danl 1095 1095 58,866 53,501 North London 9 9 3,225 3,280 North Staffordshire 254 254 8,972 8.653 Rhymney l9l 191 059 035 Scottish Central Scottish North-Eastern l3B 138 4,727 1,721 Somerset and Dorset 66 66 762 646 South Devon ..... 791 751 3.232 3,112 South-Eastern 3OS 806 18,9,7 18,70 J Taff Vale 57 57 6,637 6,965 Ulster lO5l 1051 2,133 2,3;)7 Vale of Clwyd Vale of Neath 431 431 2,851 2.403 Waterford and Kilkenny 3l 31 410 283 Waterford and Limerick 77 77 1,451 1.286 West Cornwall 271 271 751 769 W.llartlepool liarbr.Satail 521 521 4,402 4.032 Irhaven,Cleator,& Egrmnt lO 10 653 637 Whitehaven Junction l3 13 1,103 957 Whitehaven & Furness Jun 35 85 1,(,04 883 FOREIGN AND COLONIAL. Austrian B2B 828 44,795 34,765 Bahia and San Francisco 761 761 337 _ Belgian Eastern J unction 261 261 • 380 349 Bombay, Baroda, & Cen. India 1851 1851 1,873 2,100 Detroit and Milwaukie 139 189 6,456 5,040 Dutch Rhenish Eastern of France Eastern Bengal East Indian Grand Trunk of Canada 1335 1335 21,010 23,625 Great Central of Belgium 220 220 5,869 5,554 Great Indian Peninsula 5,3 5381 10,365 5,025 Great Luxembourg 134 134 4,793 4,252 Great Southern of India Great Western of Canada 345 315 12,158 13,052 Madras Madrid, Saragossa &Aiicant 653 650 16,077 18,665 Northern of Canada .. Northern of France. ...... ... 697 697 59,283 57,839 Norwegian Trunk Ottoman .. 4Bl 481 627 429 Paris, Lyons, & Mediterrn 1967 1781 134,856 144,507 Paris and Orleans 1616 1614 70,565 60,395 Pernambuco 771 771 636 454 &lade 165 105 - - South Austrian Southern of France .... 823 770 ',24,622 57,385 Victoria Welland West Flanders 75 75 1,199 1,121 West &N- %Vesta of France 960 931 45,639 41,804 [ADVERTISEMENT.] Holloway's Pills.—Functional Disorders.—Who would be well must see that every organ of the body does its duty fully and fairly, which everyone may certainly insure by occasionally resorting to these Pills, or by taking a course of them, according to the printed directions folded round each box. Stomach, liver, kidneys, and bowels are all reached by their purifying and corrective powers; and any departure from their natural action is strenuously resisted, and order and regularity en forced. Health ntay always be preserved by attentive obedience to Holloway's directions, and by using his medicine as advised by them. All obstructions will by this moans be removed, the blood will be purified, and its free and. faultless circulation established. Metropolitan Board of Works. -•--- The usual weekly meeting of this board was held yesi el : . day, at the offices, in Spring-gardens. The President, 1' Thwaites, Esq., took the chair at 12 o'clock. FINANCE. TI E sash statement for the current week shows a tots/- general balance of , 13s 10d• roLli TE UTILISATION 0F £506 THE 927 SEWAGE . OF THE METED. AND LORD R, MONTAGU. Mr FREEMAN called the attention of the b oard to ill evidence given before Lot d Robert Montagu's coratnittectio which it was stated that unfair means had been usedl their own engineer in the contract of the Thames En 11,,, ment for Mr Furness, although M: Ridl e y offered ado work for a smaller amount. He mond that the idin:,e and reported statement be referred to _ice Nain Dill Committee for consideration and report. Mr HEALEY seconded the motio. Mr D'IFFANGER said it was the common renl 3 . 11 , (4 . ~e s board are in the dark as to what had taken place be"-b, their own engineer and Mr Furness, the contractor, biltd, was surprised that a gentleman like Lord Robert gat; should, in the report which had been presented, lelicimullijo self to so dishonourable a course. (Order.) Wel l, the— would say, to a course so unfair, as he felt assure d the' b ard had done its duty. Mr SAIIUDA. said this question had already beett ; inquired into, and he considered that it would be n(ittija but a waste of time to fake up this matter again by refer it to a committee. Ho hoped Mr Freeman would withdr his motion. imp Mr H. L. TAYLOR said when he heard of this ra°" - nt to thought it indiscreet and unwise, as it was tan tau r h u- tilef an admission that there was something wrong wished to holster up by referring it to a comini tte lget therefore he thought it would be wise to let the "*" alone. lie moved the previous question. be. Major LYON said that insinuations and scandals 1 16- 0 1 circulated throughout the metropolis, through the Pr e° el' by gentlemen who take a prominent part in Pub lie ,eitr tions, and he was desirous of having the question fa di' vestigated ; but ho was opposed to the subjeot beicg h y cussed in committee by the board with closed doo rsvi bli 4 none of the arguments could be heard, and all the Pr -0.1 knew of their proceedings would be the result th e ' b ijo arrived at. Let them open their doors, admit the P u and the press, and then ho would vote for the motioe' Mr RICHARDSON said he had -already expressed 111:1;00 nion upon this question, and thought the board mig ht on the integrity of its proceedings. of t°4 Mr PHILLIPS said if the public know all the f-- ,ti A A% case there would be no necessity whatever for 8 1 31 1 ;10' examination, but as they did not, a proper state tneu to be put before them. Mr BIDOOOD was opposed to the motion, and he to . pared to justify the course he had taken, althea ° it might not always accord with the opinions of those sent him. IRO After some remarks from Mr Evans, Mr Le Bra and Mr Legg, Mr NIGHOLAT vindicated the evidence he ha d gl o io before Lord H. Montagu's committee, and said b e 97 .00 favour of a full inquiry into all the facts in reference Odessa contract. Mr ROCHE said he had given evidence also beie r "g R. Montagu's committee, but he was compelled t ° ,7 o dei an order of the House of Commons, and until be O S he did not know what evidence he was to give. 0° ; - 8 1 0 give his evidence coached up, and no list of question s ; 1 0 It to answer had been put before him, but he did eel tee was on the report of Mr Bazalgette that Mr ItidleYl° it isff was rejected. That statement he made before the 0 0 ,0 and that statement he was prepared to vindicate OIL' The Odessa contract afterwards came up, and 01 0 14.- ,04 1 suspicion upon Mr Bazalgette's report" in the publi ° 0 0 The secret of the Odessa contract was kept in the elloooo, breast, and he never even communicated it to the eb6 lo l° of the board. He said, without fear of contradiction, 'OO the board had been in possession of the facts of the° LI contract. Mr Furness would never have had t l ll, tract for the Thames Embankment. He had aP1 38 ,... 0 et1 f , fore a committee of:the House of Commons, and wr,„ could appear before a committee of the board. ge on his trial before that committee, and he defende d itte° in public, but he would never go before a secret 00100 If this matter were to be investigated, let it be done the the board when the light of day could be lee in 0 0 ; 1 00 proceedings, but if it was to bo done in secret b e ' 4l should decline to attend their meetings. After a few observations from Mr NEIVTOX - DOULTON, 11 4 11 The CHAIRMAN put the question, when the orig tion was put and carried by a majority of 22 to 10. of iti After the transaction of some routine business tile adjourned. COUNTRY MARKETS. LIVERPOOL—FRIDAY. troth We have hal about the usual attendance of 111 . 0 , ot r our corn exchange this morning, at fully Tuesday's prices. In flour there was a B . l° , to 110 and no change in value. Oats and oatmeal cable' id!, o with a very fla w ' Barley, beans, and peas also rather easier to bilY' o ,o 7 corn was freely offered, fine Danube being obtainao" to 26s 3d per 1801 b, ex ship. LINCOLN—FItII)IY. A O it ; There was an average show of wheat at our w a '4o" day,and recent currencies rather receded. Barley large. A large. show, and barely maintained former quota ti l; ell White wheat new, 40s to 436 ! Barley, g-rinding.... 2 ` 4o to, tied do. 36s to 32s I Oats, - .old, .. ..... o is toio Old white 42s to 47s New do .......... 425 t0. 1 4 Red do. 39s to 43s / Beans.. ......... •o7 s to' Barley, malting 33s to 31s / Beans, new.... °' BURTON. ON.TRENT—TuunsDAY . A seasonable supply of wheat, and sales were tud g at the rates of this day week. 4`24 0 4 4 Old white wheat..4U to 50s I Old red wheat, .•: 40 , 3 to 3 0 New do. 44s to 47s I New do. t° Malting barley....32s to 36s I Oats. ............ , 7$ to Grinding d0.....27s to 29s I Beans .......... WAKEFIELD—FRIDAY. 0 ill P re 4 The wheat trade is quiet, and there is no chang e , vious values; millers still buy sparingly. Barle.t its at Is cheaper, without tempting maltsters to 0 1 New beans fully as dear. Averages for the week : j Wheat 1989 qrs., at 4ls Gad Oats 8ar1ey......... 807 Peas .... 31 Beans ... 228 .... 383 76,13 a STAMFORD—FRIDAY. l'" °' 1/ 1 tc A fair quantity of wheat on offer, which met 911 ., 0 to d , sale, and transactions have been at fully previon at —White wheat, 41s to 435; red, 38s to 4 1 s per patter Barley, malting, 31s to 358; grinding, 2 7s t° 3 ,14 0 Oats, 18s to 233 per 24 stone. Beans, old, 3 03 .." qr. ; new, 36s to 3,43. COAL MAli,.liET. dice' frloes of Coal per Ton at tno close of the 0- A ~ s. d. Walls Brl' '" 0 Bower's West Hartley l 9 0 0 Cowpen Hartley 19 0 Hartlepool ........ "; v East Hartlepool...''. 0 South liar tlepool.., ' ::1 1 Trimdon Graogo. '' , t, 21; sold, 20, Walls End. Tunstall .... Ships at mark, Foreign Mail Packet List. Ig' Dec:ol MAILS.;DUE, Australia and Mauritius, via Southampton. ..... via ...... pee , 7 Brazil and Capo Verde, by British packet. ....... sof' Cape of Good Hope, Ascension, and St. Helona..pec.(,, China, Penang, and Singapore, via SouthaniPt ol3 'sof . vitt Marseilles •• • . Falkland Islands Gibraltar, via Southampton , V° . ; l .' India (Calcutta), and Ceylon, via Southampton. /40o,,:;0, via Marseilles.' • 'sof' 6, India (Bombay), via Southampton peo'b, via Marseilles ....... po, Portugal.... Malta, Egypt, and Aden, via Southa ........ ...... 1log'1; via Marseilles ...... • ' So f ' Newfoundland .............................•' ~1' Oporto and Vigo .. .. .. ........... 'Sof' U. S. and British N. America, by Brit. packet.. • • 0 by U.S. packet .• •.' l %;ov' i!' , by Canadian pack et. De e, '," W.C. of Africa, Madeira, and Tenerife ......... p10'1. 5 ; West Indies and Pacific Bahamas (via New York) ............... SO' 7 P , Bermuda (ditto) Cuba and Mexico ----- --_ — t o4° ABINGER.—On the 22d inst., at Abinger U 4 ' p Cep Lady Abinger, of a daughter. r EARNARD.—On the 23d inst., the wife of A ltki°- LO' Barnard, late 41st Regt., of a son CA" gp EKIN.—On the 21th inst at Bath,. the wife 0 ' - Ekin, of a daughte: . . -10 Marriages. P o d CIIAPFEY—KEEN.—On the 24th inst., at Brightl'e ° cc Chaffey, Esq., of Chard, Somerset, to Ara' v t ef er° daughter of A. J. Keen, Esq., of Belg r3. Marine 'parade, Brighton. t. j , "13, NICHOLSON—ROMILLY.—On the 24th inst., et,5,,,,e1 Paddington, Lothian Nr6holson, Lieut.-C°,-ight and C. 8., to Mary, second daughter of d i° .' Sir John Itemilly, the Master of the Rol ls ' 13" Deaths. DAMPIER,—On the 321 inst , at St. Lee" r- Sophia Frances Dampier, aged 60. BOOTH.—On the 24th inst., at - Oraa, near Ca t l g t dit ti ; wile of William C. Booth, E‘q , and Yen,,, n g,i - pa - otu e- b • of" of the late John Fielden, Esq 'ALP ,of •"°-,., P" SPOONER.—On the 24th inst., ' at L'eatolegt°-'Btr tif' Spooner, Esq., M.P., aged 82. ,„hoPe:o, STEWARD.—On the 23d inst., at 2. Little °T a l e , ' Mayfair, Elizabath Bracebriige Steward, 5' 4411 Bond-street, aged 97. SWINDELL.—On the 21th inst, the wife ° fFrecier4ci‘ of dell, Esq., 18, Berkely-square, aged 52 . Vsel +O O4 WILSoN—On the 21th inst., John i 15013.001143 Dar mouth Villas, Lewisham-road , and 11 A Bermondsey, aged 75. Births. sp p ;O. London: Printed and reblished dy VVILLI a tM AS S‘ l if of No. 112, Strand, Printer, at TuE SuN c e Strand, in the Precinct of the Savoy, To the lefiddigloc.-Baturday, November 26,166i'