The Sun. — London, England, 1836-06-14 00:00:00

S PI RIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURNALS. The Lords this day will report their Select Com mittee amendments of the " Municipal Corporation Act Amendment" —a Bill which the Commons sent them on the 24th March, and which the Noble muti lators have kept " up-stairs" for two months past. As we suspected yesterday, the Peers, or rather the Copley muster, have slyly put in a clause to continue the ex 'carporators Trustees of the Municipal Charities for one year more, notwithstanding their own clause in the Corporation Act of last year sends them out of office on the Ist of August next. This precious piece of legislative cunn i ng - and Lyndhurst design is c ouched as follows : " XXX. And be it enacted, that the said here it sums of money, chattels, securities for money, and other personal estate, shall continue in the persons who at the time of the passing of this Act shall be seised or possessed thereof as such Trustees, and in the Trustee or Trustees appointed to supply any vacancy by the Lord High Chan cellor or Lords Commissioners of the Great Seal for the time being, in the manner provided by the said Act for re gulating Corporations. for one year from the expiration of the present Session of Parliament, unless Parliament shall sooner otherwise provide, anything in the said Act not withstanding." Lord Lyndhurst, of course, designs to cast out the Ministerial Bill for the creation of new Charitable Trustees, and by his precocious legislation conceives that he can thus covertly and unseen give the Tory ex-Corporators a second year's use of the charities. Doubtless, however, the House of Commons will take care that whatever the fate of the Ministerial Charity Bill, the Lords shall not thus repeal a clause in the Corporation Act of last Session, which, on the Ist of August next, invests the Great Seal with the appoint ment of new Charity Trustees, if Parliament does not in the meanwhile legislate and create a new trust. If the Lords will not let the Commons move forwards, the Commons will not permit the Lords, crablike, to walk backwards.—Morning Chronicle. - - The vindication of the laws by the judges of the land, who are sworn to administer and defend them, appears to be so complete in Ireland, that the whole practical bearing of the tithe question in that country appears to have undergone an entire alteration. Two years—nay, 12 months—ago, the unfortunate clergy of our Protestant Church were at the mercy of Mr. Daniel O'Connell. The question was, whether the ministers of the Gospel should be immediately robbed of half their income by virtue of a Whig-Radical Act of Parliament, and of the whole of it hereafter, under c over of an abstract principle, forcibly and iniquitously ingrafted on that Act—or whether they should at once He down with their families and perish, without the interposition of such aid as the Christian charity of Englishmen and Scotchmen might afford them. Now the case, providentially, is altered. The fraternal be nevolence of Britons has intervened effectually, and supplied the most pressing wants of these harassed and persecuted servants of religion. The courts of justice have moved .with vigour to protect them per manently from those who would have plundered while they insulted them. The writs of rebellion issued from the Court of Exchequer have in numberless in stances,erushed the conspiracy against the lawful rights of the Church, and forced the defaulters, after a due display of bluster, and a quantum szyflcit of penance, to come down with the full amount of their several debts to the clergy. This, it will be seen at once, has placed the Church question upon a new and much amended footing. The friends of the clergy can no longer be wrought upon to sacrifice the intrinsic rights and existence of the establishment, from a humane dread of seeing its Ministers expire for want of food. The Protestant clergy cannot henceforth be starved outright during a time of nominal peace, and while the King's Writs are current.. A civil war, indeed, may take place, and they may, with other unoffending and loyal men, be butchered ; but Mr. Daniel O'Con nell has threatened that he will not indulge us with the luxury of open insurrection. If Protestants die a violent death, it is to be by shots from be hind hedges, or through midnight assassination— their dwellings burnt, their throats cut, their wives and infants exterminated with them ; no fair, stand tip fighting, nor manly war for the sake of " justice to the people of Ireland." We see, by the accounts from that country, that the Agitator himself has been drawn, through his own delinquency, within the grasp of the Court of Exchequer. To him it matters not, while an infatuated multitude, whether of low or high degree, call be found to bear a bad man harmless for THIS EVENING. BANKRUPTCIES SUPERSEDED. ROBERT JONES the younger, draper, Carnarvon. MARY TARRANT, milliner Cheltenham. Cadiz r. boa ... El rce , on a G ibrAltar his offences. Crime costs him nothing, and he will laugh at retribution. The consequences of Mr. Da niel O'Connell's disobedience to the Exchequer pro cess instituted at the suit of the Rev. Mr. Longfield, for an arrear of two years' tithe, will, doubtless, not fall upon the purse or person of that independent and highminded patriot. ; they will be borne by the much enduring peasantry of Kerry, and wrung from their wretchedness in the same manner, and through the same fraud, operating upon false sentiment or stupidity, as that under which the magnanimous Duke of Bedford has come down with his subscription of 1001., to indem nify O'Connell for the wilful loss occasioned by the un principled attempt of that incendiary to keep wrongful possession of a seat in Parliament, which in law and justice belonged to another person. Yes, the Duke of Bedford did that to which his own son, Lord John Russell, would not at first give credit. He sent 1001. to Mr. Joseph Hume for behoof of Mr. Daniel O'Con nell, expressly to encourage the Agitator in that course by which he has hitherto so eminently promoted " the peace, tranquillity, and happiness of Ireland ! ! ! We actually copy the old Whig's own expressions, in announcing to the parsimonious member for Middle ' sex this most reputable exercise of his Grace's bounty. However, the friends of the united church may now be satisfied that the personal interests of the clergy do not require an unworthy concession of any principle important to the ultimate security of the church. If the Ministers think fit to amuse themselves and their confederate Radicals with further displays of the ap propriation folly, let them ; they but leave the church where it is, or become parties to that civil war which may arise out of O'Connell's and their own joint machi nations, though against the wishes of the wily Papist, and of which the pious, loyal, constitutional, and un disguised motive, will be no other than the overthrow of that system of reformed worship which it was the main purpose of the Whig revolution in 1688, and of the Irish union of 1800, to perpetuate in both king doms—the expulsion of its Ministers from Ireland, and the consequent enfeebling of those principles, maxims, and institutions, essential to the enjoyment of civil li berty, of which temporal popery has ever been the ir reconcileable foe. Upon the Church question we fear nothing. The 'Melbourne Ministers have broke no effec tual ground against ..the clergy ; but the Church itself, with the entire Protestant people, are ready and anxious to see tithes commuted, abuses rectified, and the establish ment, in its religious as well as political character, cleared of all real impurities. As for the tales which have been circulated within this day or two, of the sense alleged to be entertained by Ministers of their own rather critical position--their rage against the House of Lords for upholding its legislative independ ence—and the schemes, misbegotten by fear upon mor tification, which the O'Connell Cabinet has thence given ear to, —we respect the judgment of our readers too much to assist in giving currency to idle guess work. Whatever may be attempted by the enemies of the constitution or their dupes, we can assure our countrymen, will be met with consummate skill and unflinching intrepidity. There are days which call for, and which happily afford, a class of minds fitted to subdue the elements of mischief.—Times. We know of nothing more satisfactory, or more calculated, in every respect, to secure the' confidence of the country to his Majesty's Government, as well as to assure the tranquillity of Ireland, than the manly and decisive manner in which Lord John Russell, and his colleagues, supported by the representatives of the people, are now dealing with the Irish Municipal Bill. The speech of the Noble Lord, characterised as it was by a frank and candid avowal of the most liberal and constitutional principles, must long ere now have diffused as much satisfaction through the sister isle as it has spread dismay throughout the Tory camp ; and the glorions majority by which his motion was carried given the most unquestionable assurance to our bre thren of the sister isle, that the representatives of the people will not rest satisfied until their claims to a participation. in the same rights and pri vileges which are enjoyed by the English and Scotch HOUSE OF COMMONS. BEER TRADE. TURNPIKE TRUSTS. have been con ceded. The proceedings of yesterday f h u o r o n r i snh o fe ample lver proof tha o than eight eig f 4 this d e termination ; of the in or one hour original rcestpr correspond s n p d o h n i g d t t o o them, th e m where were th ere restored , re any t and hat thoseo r o did c We like these decisive proceedings, and u nder the extraordinary circumstances in a ews b hp o ie l e i ci s ii 1.1 the d ! co untry is now placed. They are not only proofs of honest zeal and manly determination, but the i r ver y manner and air are eminently calculated to produce t he most beneficial results—not upon the Lords, we allow, upon whom argument and persuasion seem to have lost their influence—but upon that more sane. por tion of the community which, however opposed to the measures of the liberal majority of the Members of the House of Commons, is not blind to the dangers which are more than likely to result from the existing collision between the two Houses of Parliament. The refractory Lords may talk of the necessity of their acting as independent judges of all Bills which may be.sent up by the Commons, and of not being brow beaten by them into the adoption of measures of which they do not approve ; but the prudent portion of their supporters must see that the ultimate triumph in the case of a collision, must eventually rest with the latter, and that the Lords are only hastening their downfall, and digging a grave for hereditary wisdom, in attempt ing for a moment to gainsay the decided wishes of the Commons. The time certainly was, and is not long gone by, when the titled and brainless aristocrats might have safely indulged their anti-popular whims ; but that time is past, and they may as well dream of confining the waters of the Thames within the chan nel of a mountain rivulet, as of making head success-. fully against the hatred and indignation which their insane and dogged opposition to the will of the people is daily drawing down upon them. The Commons are not now nominated by them—they are the repre sentatives of the people—and if they would, they dare not betray the interests of their constituents.—Morn ing Advertiser. SECOND EDITION. SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Cloth. THE LONDON GAZE FTE \VAR-OFFICE, JUNE 14, 1836. MEMORANDUM. The half-pay of the under-mentioned Officers has been cancelled from the 14th instant, inclusive, they having accepted a commuted allowance for their commisssons, viz.:—Assistant-Surgeon A. Gibson, half-pay New South Wales % eteran Companies ; Lieute nant 31. Donelan, half-pay Ist Provisional Battalion of Militia. OFFICE OF ORDNANCE, JUNE 13. Royal Regiment of Artillery—Captain and Brevet Major C. Brigde to be Lieutenant-Colonel, vice D. Campbell, placed on the Retired List . Second Captain P. Sandilands to be Captain, vice Bridge ; First Lieutenant H. F. Slater, to be Second Captain, vice San di lands ; Second Lieutenant H. D. Moiritt to be First Lieutenant, vice Slater, June 4. Corps of Engineers—Second Lieutenant W. H. Mould, with temporary rank, to be Second Lieutenant with permanent rank, Dec. 12. WHITEHALL, JUNE 13. The Lord Chancellor has appointed William Ritson Dryden, of Kingston-upon-Hull, Gent., to be a Master Extraordinary in the High Court of Chancery. DECLARATIONS OF INSOLVENCY. ' WILLIAM PHILLIPS ATKINS and ROBERT FREE MAN, carpenters, Houndsditch. JOHN RISTE the younger, lace manufacturer, Ilminster. BANKRUPTCY ENLARGED. SAMUEL CEARNS, grocer. Liverpool, from June 7, to July 19, at eleven, at the Clarendon Rooms, Liverpool. BANKRUPTS. THOMAS MOGER, cheesemonger, Holborn-hill. JOSEPH WATSON, grocer, Newcastle-upon-Tyne. JOSEPH HAYTON, ship-owner, Maryport, Cumberland. JOHN II EIBBLEW HITE, woollen-draper, Kingston-upon Hull. ROBERT COOPER, jeweller, Rristol. COURSE OF EXCITANGE.—/THIS DAY.) A insterit.iiii C.F. 12 Gt.', ;Leghorn ,B Ditto, at sight llott, 'MARI '' U. 12 ti; , 4 Milan -1 .Iritwerp l2 5 Venice 47 Hatiii,urg 11.13. 13 14 vaplcs 4 0 14 Altstia l3 14 Palermo per oz. 122 l'aris, 3 (lays' ~g ht 4 ...r) CO Li.bon 7;14 Ditto ....... .............. '2 Us. 25 9) Oporto ~ , ,,i , 7 6 :.larseille,. Frankfort OR Mane, E. M. 154 Bahia Pctersbuigh, ruble 'I Us. 10 A Buenos Ayr,-; Berlin - Vienna, effective 11 Trieste ditto lO 12 Madrid SPA PRICE OF BULLION, PER OZ. '1741 Portugal Gold, coin .£3 14 3 M!, F or&gn Gold, in bars 3 11 9 :164i New lliintiloons ^Ali New Dollars ........... 4S Silver. bars. standard 0 5 0 IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT, The SPEAKER took the Chair at 4 o'Clock. Th. Southampton Water-works Bill, and the Preston and Longridge Bill were read a third time and fissed. SMITHFIELD MARKET BILL. Mr. PALMER presented a petition from the farmers and graziers of Essex, against the Smithfield and Islington Market Bill. MANCHESTER AND CHESHIRE RAILWAY. Captain PAGET presented a petition from Beaumaris in favour of the Manchester and Cheshire Railway. WESSENDEN RESERVOIR. On the motion of Mr. BLACKBURNE, the Wessenden Reservoir Bill was read a third time and passed. KILKENNY PETITION. The SPEAKER informed the House that the recogni zanees in the case of the Kilkenny petition had not been entered. The order was then directed to be discharged. TRALEE CANAL AND HARBOUR. Mr. MORGAN J. O'CONNELL moved the further con sideration of the Report in the Tralce Canal and Harbour Bill. Mr. EROTHERTON presented a petition from the beer retailers of Salfurd, complaining of the inefficiency of the present law,. and praying for alteration. CHURCH RATES. . . Lord ALBERT CONYNGHAM presented a petition from the Dissenters of Canterbury, praying for the abolition of church rates. Mr. BROWNRIGG presented petitions, praying for the consolidation of turnpike trusts. Mr. SHARMAI CRAWFORD presented a petition from Drogheda signed by 6,410 persons, praying that tithes may be abolished—that the revenue of the lands of the Established Church may be so economically managed as to supply a fund for the relief of the poor—that the lands of Ireland may be relieved from any charge, and that the House will not sanction any Municipal Bill for Ireland, which does not confer the corporate rights as those which have been granted to Eng land and Scotland ; also petitions from the parishes of Fahans and Dysteterny, County Donegal, and from Drumgooland, County Down, praying to the same effect. , Mr. SC HOL E FIE LD presented petitions from the paper stainers of Birmingham against the proposed alteration in the duties on stained paper ; also a petition from the inhabitants of Birmingham for the repeal of the taxes on Newspapers ; and a petition in favour of the Cheshire Junction Railway. Mr. CHALMERS presented a petition in favour of the Irish Municipal Bill, as it originally passed that House. Sir S. 'WHALLEY presented a petition from Essex, pray ing for a mitigation of the severity of the Poor Laws Amend ment Bill, as regarded the extension of relief to the poor. Colonel CONOLLY presented a petition from the diocese of Cloyne, against the Ecclesiastical Revenues Bill. Mr. O'CONNELL presented a number of petitions from the North of England and Ireland, in favour of the Irish Mu nicipal Reform Bill as first passed by that House. The Hon. Member gave notice that in the Committee on the Irish Church Bill he would move clauses to increase the per centage from 30 to 40 per cent., and to provide for the repayment of the 10 per cent. from the Consolidated Fund, in order to cover the collection, &c. Also, that he would move clauses in the Committee on the Registration of Votes' Bill. Mr. T. GLADSTONE presented a petition from Leices ter in favour of the Lords' amendments to the Irish Munici pal Bill. Mr. POTTER hoped the Hon. Member was aware that there bad been a most numerously signed petition to a con trary effect, which was agreed to at a public meeting, already on the table of the House. WOODS AND FORESTS. Mr. HARVEY was glad to see the Attorney-General in his place, for be had an important petition to present, which he had deferred from last Friday, in the hope of his presence. This was a petition from the poor to the rich. The petition was signed by seventy persons, who, with five exceptions, were all labouring poor. They represented that they had lived and were born in the county of Radnor, which till a late period was, at least the greater part of it, the property of the Crown. In 1826, the Commissioner of the Woods and Forests sold a great many of the manors in that county, chiefly, he regretted to say, by private contract. In that year one of those manors was purchased by private contract for 12,0001. by Mr. Watt, of Birmingham. From the statements of the petition it appeared that it was a custom immemorial for the poor of the district to inclose small por tions of waste ground which sloped the hills and vallies of the county, and out of their labour they built cottages which many orthem had occupied for upwards of 30 years without interruption, but the Gentleman to whom he had al luded, by purchasing one of the manors, had instituted an action at law to recover one of those cottages and a small piece of ground. In that action h verdict was found for the plaintiff, subject to a special case to be argued before the Court of Common Pleas. Three issues were discussed before • the judges of that Court, first, whether the Crown had the • power to sell; secondly, if it had, whether the wastes would pass under the conveyance ; and thirdly whether the enclosures • having been made for more than thirty y ears, the a ction could be maintained. The unanimous opinion of the Court was, the Crown had not the power to sell the waste ; that if they had the power, the waste would not pass under the deed, the Lord Chief Justice (Gibbs) observing that the law and justice of the case lay with the defendant. Since then the Attorney- General, at the instance of the Commissioners of Woods and Forests, had issued a writ to establish, if possible, the right of the Crown. Whether this was an e x p eriment or not on behalf of the Woods and Forests, was a matter o f little or n o mo ment, because these persons who wer e in p ossession of their little property were sought to b e dis p laced b y a most expensive, and a most dilatory process.—(Crtes of " Hear.") It was clear that these proceedings were at variance with the first principles of justice, and uncalled for by the law of Par liament. For by the comprehensive Act passed a few years since, consolidating all the Acts of Parliament with reference to inclosures, the Commissioners were empowered to sell, by public or private contract, the property committed to their charge. But it wont on to state, that as there were many im provements where it would not be expedient to disturb the pos sessors, it provided that where parties had been in possession of these encroachments for twenty years they were not to be in terfered with, but where it was for a less time, the Commis sioners had power to grant leases. This showed a solicitude to protect persons in this unfortunate condition. By the proceed ings instituted by the Crown in one instance an individual had been driven from his little home and his little all--from the rugged soil that he had tilled-with the sweat of his brow—from the cottage, the work of his own hands, to find no other home but in, the workhouse.—( Hear.) He bad another petition on the same subject, which showed how cruelly and severely these proceedings acted upon the poor. The peti tioner stated that he was 78 years of age ; that in 1801, he enclosed from the Crown of waste lands 20 acres of land, on which he erected a cottage. Proceedings were taken against him, and having no means to defend the action, he let judg ment go by default. He was thus swept away from his cot tage, and thrown upon the wide world. The Commissioners of Woods and Forests were only exercising their rights, from a sense of duty ; but he trusted that that House would manifest such a strong expression of feeling which would operate on the kind feeling of the Attorney-General, with a view to induce him to dispense with further proceedings. (Loud cries of " Hear, hear.") The ATT ORNEY-GE NE RA L said, that in consequence of the notice he had received from the Hon. Member, he had thought it his duty to attend in his place, and to inquire be ' forehand into the facts of the case. He had received infor mation on which he could place the greatest confidence, and he would state what the facts of the case were, on which he thought the House would agree with him, that nothing bad I been done that gave just cause of complaint. As the Hon. Member had stated, the Crown was possessed of extensive manors in Radnorshire, and a large portion of this which was public property had been taken in enclosures. In 1826 there manors were to be sold.—( Cries of " Hear.") It was the duty of the Commissioners of 'Woods and Forests, at that time, to dispose of the interests of the Crown. The property was public property, and it was for the public interest that the property should be disposed of. Every one had ac knowledged the title, except Mr. Parsons an attorney, and con sequently the action which had been alluded to was brought. Upon that action it had been clearly proved the Crown had a title. Mr. Parsons had refused to acknowledge the right of Mr. Watts, and had stirred up those who before had ac knowledged his right, to deny that he had a title to any part of the manor. Under these circumstances Mr. Watts had, as between himself and Mr. Parsons, laid his case before the Commissioners of Woods and Forests. An information had been filed against Mr. Parsons for this act, which would be tried at the next assizes of Hereford, when the question would be decided. Mr. O'CONNELL did not think that Mr. Watts had evinced any liberality in the case, becau - se he exacted a rent which gave him dominion over their property, and which en ' abled him to turn those poor people out, after they had im proved and cultivated the land. In his opinion the Hon._ Member for Southwark should move for a Committee, and if necessary, address the Crown on the subject. Mr. ORMSBY GORE could assure the Hon. Member that cases of equal hardship existed in North Wales; and he now gave notice that. he would move for certain documents when the Report of the Woods and Forests was laid on the table. Mr. F. LEWIS could not agree with the Hon. Member who had just sat down that there were many such cases. On the contrary, the prerogative of the Crown was in too many cases neglected, and advantage was taken of that circumstance.—( Hear. ) He would venture to say that no landed proprietor in Wales would allow of encroachment upon his property for a single day ; but the CroWn allowed an enjoy ment of its property to a certain extent, and must, therefore, enforce its rights. If the Hon. Member would move for a Committee to inquire into the rights of the Crown in North and South Wales, he (Mr. Lewis) would . second it with plea sure. Mr. TOOKE defended the conduct and character of Mr. Watts, which had been alluded to in rather harsh terms by the Hon. and Learned Member for Kilkenny. Mr. O'CONNELL explained. Mr. D. W. HARVEY complained that the Attorney-Ge neral had dexterously handed over the petitioners to grapple with Mr. Parsons, the attorney. He -only wished the Attor ney- General and his predecessors had been as careful of the public or Crown property in bygone times as they now seemed to be. The conduct Of the Woods and Forests had been most oppressive and flagitious, even to the extreme ; but there appeared to be a sudden sense of duty sprung up in the (Alice, and these po3r petitioners were the victims. These were encroachments undoubtedly, but they were encroachments of 30 years standing, and the Attorney-Gene ral was so eminent in the law as to 'know that no encroach ments could be questioned in a Court of Law after 20 years' enjoyment, except by the prerogative of the Crown. He would make further inquiry into the matter, and if the facts were as stated, of which he had no doubt, he would certainly adopt the course suggested by the Hon. and Learned Member for Kilkenny, and move for a Committee. After some observations from the ATTORNEY GENERAL, which were inaudible in the Gallery, the petition was ordered to lie on the table. Mr. HOPE presented a petition from Gloucester, praying for the abolition of death in all eases. Mr. JARVIS presented a petition from Chester, praying for an alteration of the timber duties. Mr. HODGES presented a petition from the Gravesend Steam Navigation Company, against the Steam Navigation Bill now before the House. Also; a petition from Frome and Dartmouth, against the Consolidated Turnpike Act. TITHES. Mr. H. GRATTAN presented six petitions from parishes in 'the county of Meath against Tithes, and against the Lords' Amendments to the Irish Municipal Corporation Bill. PARLIAMENTARY PAPERS. Mr, HUME presented a petition from an individual, stating that a considerable advantage had arisen from the%pening of an office for the sale of parliamentary papers in England, and praying that a similar: convenience might be afforded to Ireland. THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY, JUNE 14, 1836. TAXES ON KNOWLEDGE. The HoN. MEMBER also presented a petition from the work men in the employ of the Messrs. Williams and Co., of Isling ton, praying for the total repeal of the Stamp Duties upon Newspapers. The Hon. Member proceeded to state that he wished to ask a question of the Right Hon. Gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer on a subject on which there ex isted considerable anxiety, viz., when the arrangements with France on the subject of the Post-office regulations were likely to come to a determination ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that in the course of last week he had received a letter, stating that the treaty was almost completed—it was in fact signed, but it had not yet been sent over. He could also state that steps had been taken, in conjunction with the Admiralty, to carry into effect that part of the Report of the Commissioners which referred to the steam packets, which was the most press ing and urgent point. He could not, however, state the par ticular day on which he would be able to lay the treaty on the table of the House. PRISONS OF THE HOUSE. Sir F. TRENCH said he had a complaint to make, and the House mid the Speaker would be surprised to find that the complaint he had to make referred to him (the Speaker). —( A laugh.) He ( Sir F. Trench) had had the misfortune to be the first inhabitant of the prison of the House of Com mons.—( Loud laughter.) He did not complain of the new apartnients'or of the new paint ; but what be did complain of was, that from the construction of the prison, it was owing to a mere accident, that he and the Hon. Member for Ipswich had not been confined together in the same apartment.—(Great laughter.) The prison was so constructed that it would have been impossible for them to have remained there without im propriety or indecency, as one Member to get out would have been obliged to pass through the apartment of the other.-- He was very much indebted to fortune, because the Hon. Member for Ipswich, instead of being on the road to Dover or Calais, happened to be in his own apartment.—( Loud laughter, and a cry of hear, hear, from Mr. Wason.) He was not therefore subjected to the necessity of running the risk of a disagreeable collision with him.—(Loud laughter.) The Hon. Member remained in his lodgings, and he ( Sir F. Trench) occupied apartments in prison.—(Renewed laugh ter, and hear.) But: he must state that he was sure the Honourable Member for Ipswich would have treated him with all possible courtesy—(" Hear," from Mr. Wason, and a laugh)—as he ( Sir F. Trench) would have treated that Hon. Member with similar courtesy ; but still he would have been under the necessity of passing through the Hon. Member's apartments, as he (Sir F. Trench) had the misfortune to be labouring at the time under severe in disposition.—( Loud Laughter.) This, it was obvious, would have been attended with extreme inconvenience. He begged also to state that this prison was a very bad place to send quarrelling Members to—in fact, he never knew any thing more idle. The keeper was placed outside, and the Hon. Members were left together inside. He did not pre tend to be an architect, but it was obvious to any person that this was extremely inconvenient. He feared very much from the tone of the debates in that House of late, that a greater number of cells ought to be prepared.—( Laughter.) Accord ing to the adage that " a burnt child dreads the fire," he should endeavour to conduct himself in future as not to incur the displeasure of the Speaker.—( Cheers and laughter.) Mr. R. WASON complained of the Order of that House which could direct any Member to be taken into custody with out having transgressed the rules of the House. He had also some right to complain of the Noble Lord, the Member for Norwich, who at 3 o'clock in the morning had, contrary to all precedent, moved that he be taken into custody. Lord STORMONT was about to address the House, but was interrupted by the SPEAKER, 1\ 110 said there was no ques tion before the House. BREACH OF PRIVILEGES OF THE HOUSE. Mr. JOHN A. SMITH had to apologize to the House for a breach of its privileges on Saturday morning last, in coming into the House after the question bad been put from the Chair. He felt that in doing so he had committed a great irregularity, for which he trusted the Speaker would express to the House his extreme regret.—( Hear.) There was another person connected with the affair, for whom he also felt bound to crave the indulgence of the House, and he regretted that that person, cwho was one of the messengers , had been induced through his (Mr. A. Smith's) anxiety to vote on the question, to admit him; and as he was the party principally to blame, he hoped the House would not visit that individual with punishment. Mr. AGLIONBY felt very anxious upon this subject, for the sake of the Messenger who was implicated, as he was from the county with which he (Mr. A.) was connected. H e was a very simple and very good nutured man, who out of good nature had broken the orders he had received. This was the first occurrence of the kind which had taken place with him, and he (Mr. A.) would beco:ne his surety that it would not occur with him again. Under these circumstances he trusted the House would consider that he had suffered enough of punishment from the intense anxiety he had felt since the occurrence, and begged that they would not visit him with their displeasure in any higher degree.—( Hear. ) Sir G. CLERK, having been appointed one of the tellers on the division on Saturday morning, while performing his duty, was informed that several Members had voted who were not present when the question was put from the Chair. Of course, he had felt it his duty to mention the circumstance at the earliest opportunity. The usual course was, that the fact being mentioned, Members who had voted in that way declared so, and their vote was struck off.—( Hear.) He had no wish that anything further should take place than that the Hon. Member's vote should be struck off. He joined in the recommendation of the two Hon. Members, that no further notice might be taken of the conduct of the Messenger. He trusted that the Speaker would take such steps as would pre vent such a proceeding from happening in future. The SPEAKER said that he should certainly take such steps as would prevent such a course being adopted in future. Mr. AGLIONBY hoped the House would intimate to the Chair that sufficient had been done without calling upon the Speaker to interfere further.—(Cheers.) Sir JAMES GRAHAM bore testimony to the excellent conduct of Mr. Bailey. He thought the best course to adopt would be to reprimand the individual and let the matter drop. Mr. WYNNE thought the House was bound in general cases to visit severely any dereliction of duty on the part of any of its officers; but he thought, in the present instance, some leniency should be shown.—( Cheers.) The SPEAKER considered that he should have committed a great offence to the House, if he had retained in his service a person who had disobeyed the standing rules of the House, without bringing the subject of the individual's conduct before it. As, however, it appeared to be the wish of the House that no further notice should be taken of the subject, he of course should bow to the wishes of the House, feeling confident that the course the House had adopted would do more to convince the individual that he had acted wrong, than any punishinent they might inflict.—(Cheers.) The subject then dropped. TREMOUTHA HARBOUR. Sir W. MOLE SWORTH moved the Order of the Day, for taking into further consideration the Report on the Tre moutha Railway and Harbour Bill. Mr. CHARLES BULLE R said that this was rather a singular measure, for it was for the purpose of establishing a railway over a sterile country to a non-existing harbour, on an inaccessible coast: —( Laughter.) He thought it important also for the House to know how the railway had been got up.—( Hear.) There appeared an advertisement in the public papers of a public' meeting, in which it was stated the county Members attended and moved the resolution : would the House believe that not a single Member had been there— (Cheers)—and he, as a member of the Committee received a Paper making that statement. He should move that the re port should be taken into further consideration on that day six months.—( Cheers.) Mr. E. FRENCH seconded the motion. S r E. C 0 DRINGTON could not understand how it was that opposition was made to the Bill now when there was no objection made in the Committee. After a few words from Lord EBRINGTON against the Bill, Mr. G. YOUNG said, being one of the Members alluded to, would merely say that the names of eight Members of that House were put forth as having moved resolutions in favour of the Railway at the Crown and Anchor; their names were put upon the provisional committee, and immediately the shares were at a premium. They insisted upon a public retraction, which was given ; but still the original prospectus was circulated. Some thing of a similar nature had taken place with the Ship-owners' Society. The Secretary to that Society took some shares in the Company on his own account, and signed himself " agent." His name was then put down as proprietor of shares in the concern, as Agent and Secretary to the Ship-owners' Society, thereby making it appear as if that Society favoured the con concern. He hoped the House would instantly kick the Bill out of the House. Col. SIBT HORP was very glad to hear what had just fallen from the Hon. Member; he had nothing to blame him self with, as he had all along prophecied that such would be the end of these bubbles. The statement just made would open the eyes of the public to the system of humbug which was going on—it was sheer. humbug,—(Laughter.) He was informed that a gentleman was sitting under the Gallery who was possessed of 20 shares, but hearing a few words from him on railways generally went cut and immediately sold off his shares.—( Laughter.) Mr. WA SON had heard nothing against the Bill. If the Bill was thrown out now, Committees would be useless, for these statements might have been gi,yen there in evidence. After a few words from Lord BODEItT GROSVENOR and Mr. E. DENNISON against the Bill, Sir W. MOLES WORTH said that this Bill had received the unanimous assent of the Committee—no opposition what ever had been made to it, and he appealed to the House whe ther they would now throw out the Bill. That a harbour was wanted for the coast was clear, from the fact that in one season no less than 23 vessels had been wrecked on the coast for want of a harbour. Mr. HUINIE was altogether ignorant of the merits of the merits of the Bill, but as many Hon. Members stated that it was wanted, he thought that, rather than run the risk of defeating the Bill, it should be postponed for a week, till the subject was more fully inquired into. He should be sorry, without further inquiry, to reject the Bill. Sir HENRY HA RDINGE said that if parties at their own expense were willing to erect a harbour where it appeared to be so much wanted, he for one was content to take the harbour so constructed.—( Hear.) The very much doubted if the parties would pay, but if they were ready to sink theii 4 money in the scheme, lie walla not prevent them. Under these circumstances, if the question were pressed to a division, he would support the Bill. Mr. A. SaNnFoan, Mr. P. THOMPSON, and Mr. C. BUL LER, supported the Bill. The gallery was then cleared for a division, when there appeared— For the Second Reading 124 Against it • Majority (LEFT SITTING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. ARREST FOR DEBT. ~...-73 The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition from an individual who had recently visited the prisoner in London, praying for an alteration of the Law of Arrest for debt. Lord ROSSLYN presented a petition, praying for protec tion to Herring Fisheries. HOLYHEAD STEAM PACKETS. The Earl of LICHFIELD seeing a Noble Marquis (Westmeath) in his place, who had put a question last night to the Noble Lord the Chief Commissioner of Woods and Forests, with regard to the Post-office packets on the Holy head station, wished to make a few observrtions. That Noble Marquis had said the steam packets were in a dangerous state, and were not provided with the means of extinguishing fire should such an occurrence happen. Now the first answer to that was, that by the Bill which would be brought before the House all those evils would be remedied by transferring the packets to the Admiralty, but until that period arrived, not only their Lordships, but the public, should be assured that the packets were in an efficient state, and that there had been no apprehensions of any accident occurring by fire. They were provided with firebuckets and all necessary means of extingtish ing fire. During the time they were in harbour, a large fire engine was constructing in the dock-yard. That was not the most suitable occasion for going into the subject of the latter part of the Noble Marquis's question. A more convenient op portunity would be afforded for that when the report then upon their Lordships' table came under consideration, and then he should be ready to afford any explanation upon these points. The Earl of WICKLOW enquired when the reports would be likely to be taken into consideration by the House. The Earl of LICHFIELD said, intimation had already been given of the intention of his Majesty's Government to introduce two Bills founded on the reports. The Marquis of WESTMEATH said his attention had been called to this subject by having read the re ports on the table ; and certainly the Commissioners who had been employed had entered most satisfactorily into the subject. They laid very great stress in their report upon the want of fire-hose on board vessels to put out fire that might take place at sea. With respect to the malversation and peculation at the Dock-yard at Holyhead, he had only referred to that as part of the Report. The Commissioners had done their duty, and he was sure the matter could not be in better hands than theirs. The Duke of RICHMOND could not suffer the conversa tion to drop without making an observation. There had been two packets a day for the last ten years passing backwards and forwards on this station, and he had not heard of one being lost ; that of itself would have been sufficient to show there was no very great danger to be apprehended. With re spect to the fourth report he begged to give notice of his intention on Friday next to call theft Lordships' attention to the subject, for such a Report he thought he had never seen placed before any House of Parliament, and backed by such evidence as it was. The Marquis of WE STMEATH said the representations he had understood of the Captain's had not had due at tention. He, on several occasions, while a passenger onboard these Holyhead Packets had been very uneasy on finding there were not proper precautions against fire on board, and as usual when a landsman asked questions of a seaman, had got a very short answer.—( Hear, hear, and laughter.) Tile Duke of RICHMOND begged to give a contradiction to the statement that the representations of the Captains on the Holyhead station had not met with attention from the Post masters General. He had always given every attention to their representations. He had seen every paper addressed to him or to his predecessor in office, and he had no doubt that his Noble Friend (the Earl of Lichfield) would confi rm hi m in the statement that every letter or paper in the Post-office Department was uniformly communicated to the Postrna s t er - General, who signed his name on the b ack of it, with his opinion thereon. The Eli.' of WICKLOW remarked, that although no vessel bad actually been destroyed by fire, yet every packet on that station was reported to have been on fire, and one no less than three times.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") If that became known it would injure not only that station but also the revenues of the country ; therefore the Government ought immediately to remedy it. He hoped the Government would follow up the recommendation of the Commissioners, by establishing on that station a different description of packets altogether. The Earl of LICHFIELD said that with regard to fire engines on board being a security against fire, it was a curi ous fact that the only vessel that was seriously burnt was the Phoenix, and she had a fire hose on board. The coals in these vessels were placed between the side of the vessel and the boiler, whereas in common steam vessels they were placed in a mere dangerous situation, viz., on the top of the boiler. BREACH OF PRIVILEGE. Lord STOURTON hoped he should not be accused of a morbid sensibility, if he approached their Lordships not only in protection of his own honour, but in the protection of the ho nour and privileges of their Lordships' House. the document which he now held in his hand had been sent to him, and he did not call their Lordships attention to it from any desire to have the person with whom it originated punished. But it deeply and vitally assailed his (Lord Stourton's) honor, and charged him with no less than violating his oath. The Noble Lord here handed the petition to the Clerk, who was about to read it, when Lord ELLENI3OROUGH objected to its beim , . read. The Noble Lord might read it as part of his speech, if he pleased. Lord STOURTON would bow to the decision of the Noble Lord opposite, as he was not very well acquainted with the forms os the House. The paper purported to he a petition from the Corporation of Tailors, or Guild of St. John the Baptist of the City of Dublin. The petitioners, after entering into a variety of statements relative to the spread of the Roman Catholic religion, and the dangers threatened thereby to the Established Church, al luded to the passing of the Emancipation Bill, at which period a pledge was exacted from Roman Catholic Peers and Members of the House of Commons, that they would not use their privileges to weaken or disturb the established religion, and it further alleged that the Noble Lord, and other Roman Catholic Members, had violated these oath by voting on questions affecting the Established Church. After read ing some extracts from the speech of Sir Robert Peel on the Catholic Emancipation Bill, the Noble Lord suddenly sat down. Earl WILTON presented a petition from 8,000 inhabitants of Manchester and Salford, in favour of the Lords' Amend ments to the Irish Municipal Bill. The Marquis of CAMDEN presented a petition from the University of Cambridge, praying that the name of the Vice- Chancellor of Cambridge for the time being be inserted in the list of persons appointed to hold the Commission of the Peaee for that town. The LORD CHANCELLOR said the arrangement prayed for in the petition, was most strenuously objected to by the inhabitants of the town. So far as he was concerned, he bad no personal objection to the introduction of such a clause. The Bishop of GLOUCESTER presented two petitions from Gloucester, praying for the abolition of the punishment of death ; also a petition from Aberdeen in favour of the better observance of the Sabbath. RAILWAYS. The Duke of WELLINGTON begged to know whether his Majesty's Government had prepared any plan relative to the conduct of the various Railway Bills now pending before Parliament? (LEFT SITTING.) IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. 110 USE OF COMMONS. JUNB 13. IRISH MUNICIPAL REFORM. Ler.l JOHN RUSSELL informed the House, that all the imr ortant alterations made by the Lords would be presented by to-morrow at five o'clock, in order that they might then Le taken into consideration. SCOTCH MUNICIPAL REFORM. Dr. BOWRING wished to ask the Lord Advocate when it was his intention to move the second reading of the Scotch Municipal Reform Bill ? The LORD ADVOCATE could not positively say. REGISTRATION OF VOTERS. The House then went into Committee on the Registration of Voters' Bill, Mr: Bernal in the Chair. Clauses 34 to 47 were agreed to. On clause 48, Dr. BOWRING moved an amendment to the effcct that Dissenters' certificates heretofore made be admitted after ex amination. A conversation ensued, the result of which was that Lord J. Russell agreed to the appointment of commissioners for the purpose of examining Dissenters' certificates, and Dr. Bow ring withdrew his amendment. The clause was then agreed to, as were the remaining clauses, and the House resumed. The House then went into Committee on the salaries of officers under the same Bill. The clauses were agreed to, and the report was ordered to be brought up to-morrow. MARRIAGES BILL. The report of the Marriages Bill was further considered, and the Bill was re-committed. Clause I and 2 were agreed to. On the 3d clause being proposed, Dr. NIC HO L L moved an amendment, which would have the effect of enforcing a lapsed power in the Clergyman of the parish, that the word "dwell" be omitted, and that the parties should be required to be actually resident seven days within the district of registration. Dr. LUSHINGTON opposed the amendment, which he thought would be as inoperative as the present law. Lord J. RUSSELL was understood to agree to the amend. ment. Clause 4 was agreed to. On clause 15 being proposed, Dr. BOWRING moved, as an amendment, that licenses should be granted on the application of ten instead of twenty inhabitant householders. Dr. LUSHINGTON regretted that he should be com pelled to oppose the amendment, as he considered that the clause as it stood did not impose any hardship. Dr. BOWRING pressed his amendment, when there ap peared-- For the original clause For the amendment Majority lO6 Clause 16 was agreed to. On clause 17 being proposed, Dr. NICHOL L proposed as an amendment that a decla ration to the following effect, to be taken by each of the parties, should be introduced :—" I do solemnly declare that I know of no lawful impediment why we should not be joined together in holy matrimony." BAIN E S did not see any objection ; on the contrary, he considered it very proper. The clause, thus amended was agreed to. On clause 18 being proposed, Mr. PO ULTE R said he considered it a most fortunate one. In eight lines it did away with the entire present system of marriage in England, by separating the civil from the religious contract. He had heard many Dissenters express a wish to retain the religious ceremony. Any hostility to the religious ceremony arose out of the stringent nature of the old Act, which by its severity drove people to the other extreme. The religious ceremony should be retained, enlarging its basis ; and then many who separated from the Church of England, but who still respected her doctrines and discipline, might be brought back. Mr. BA INE S said the observations of the Hon. Member would be applicable if it were imperative on Dissenters to adopt the civil without the religious rite ; but, as the matter was quite optional, there was no grievance-4 Hear, hear. ) The Dissenters, in most instances, would add the religious ceremony, and the Bill as it at present stood enabled every one to have that ceremony performed according to his own view of the rite. The Bill of last year was unsatisfactory, because there was too much of civil contract and too little of religious rite. Sir R. INGLIS said this was the first instance in which it was proposed to separate the legal from the religious solemni sation of marriage, and he would urge the Hon. Gentleman opposite to press the Committee to a division unless the clause were abandoned. Dr. LUS HINGTON looked upon the clause as containing the great principle of the Bill. Marriage was a natural rite, and should be subject to no restrictions except such as were absolutely necessary to prevent illicit alliances. The Hon. Gentleman who made the objection relied solely upon his own opinion, and would render the religious rite imperative on all, because, in his judgment, it ought to be. Why should the Hon. Gentleman make his judgment the sole standard, and impose the ceremony upon others who entertained the direct contrary opinion ? In reply to the Hon. Member for Oxford University, he would say that, up to 1756, marriage might be contracted without any religious ceremony, as was the case then in Scotland ; and two people acknowledgint , themselves man and wife b e f ore w it nes ses were legally united.' Mr. HARDY said all that was required by the Bill was that the contract should be entered into in a licensed place, and before the registrar or superintendent. No ceremony whatso ever was required. Lord .I. RUSSELL could not see that the clause was ob jectionable. The aim of the Bill was to allow all persons to contract marriage in the manner least likely to wound their consciences. 'lt left the ceremony of the Church of England undisturbed. It gave relief to the Dissenter who wished for the religious rite, but preferred to have it performed in his own chapel. Others who looked upon marriage as a civil contract had a right to an equal indulgence, and it was af forded to them by the Bill. It was not right to say to one party, " I admit your scruples, and will make provision for them," and to another, " Your scruples are such as I can allow no weight to." Mr. POULTER presumed all parties would add some re ligious rite. If the clause were pressed he should divide the House. Sir R. PEEL said the ceremony, as he understood the Bill, did require a religious rite, as it would be valid if performed in a registered building. By his Bill of last year, which had been alluded to, the civil contract was required, as he took it for granted that the religious rite would be superadded. Was .: `~'~ it proposed by the clause now under discussion to dispens with the religious ceremony when the p arties were ofpu‘e Church of England? He presum ed not—that it wa gs n ot intended to interfere with the exist in g usa g e as re g ar ded the Church of England. There were large masses of Dissenters who would be sorry to dispense wit h the reli g ious cererne,," The Presbyterians, for instance , wo uld in his o p inion- b e to have the ceremony done away with, as its omission :0Z be likely to open the door to frauds amongst the lower clas sed The RECORDER of LONDO N thou g ht the claus e es !. It stood was calculated to desecrate the ceremony of marriag e. Mr. RICHARDS thought that some religious sancti on ought to be given to the solemn contrac t of matrimony. 11- Lord J. RUSSELL did not think it advisable to req u i re , any profession. So far as related to marriage , the Bill dif" fered from that of the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir R. Peel.) Sir R. PEEL said it would be difficult to compel perso ns to have recou rse t o an y religious ceremony. One party /nigh! consider that to be a religious ceremony of which others /ni g h: take a different view. There ought, however , to be som e record of an objection having been made to the religi ous ce remony. He hoped the committee would not come to - hasty decision. Mr. PRYME said he knew no means of ascertaining wh o were or were not members of the Church of England. Sir R. PEEL thought as regarded members of th e Church of England, the ceremony of marriage ought to b e left as it now was. Sir A. AGNEW said that in Scotland, though marriag e was considered to be a civil contract, still a religious cere, mony was required by the Scotch Church. Mr. E WART saw no occasion for a religious ceremony. It was only by a sect that such ceremony was made compel. sore. It ought to be voluntary in this case. Mr. MILES contended, as the clause stood that it would tend to encourage clandestine marriages. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL thought that it was alas°. lutely necessary that there should be some ceremony w hi ch would make it known to the world that a marriage compa ct had been entered into between parties. He did not t think that the adoption of the alter ations that had been suggested from the other side of the House would be at all advisable. Mr. ARTHUR TREVOR contended that making ma , riage a civil contract would be highly injurious ; and pa ss i ng the clause as it stood would greatly increase the number of clandestine marriages. Mr. R. C. FERGUSSON hoped that the House would not adopt the suggestion of the Hon. Member for Shaftes_ bury, which, if adopted, would destroy the principle as well a s the utility of the Bill. The Committe then divided, when there appeared — For the amendment . 58 Against it Majority The clause was then agreed to, as were also clauses 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, and 28. On the suggestion of Sir R. PEEL, the Chairman then re ported progress and obtained leave to sit again this day. The other orders of the day were disposed of, and at half past twelve o'clock this morning the House adjourned. HOUSE OF LORDS, JUNE 13. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the wool sack a little after five o'clock. CHURCH RATES. The Marquis of WESTMINSTER presented a petition praying for the abolition of church rates. MIDLAND COUNTIES RAILWAY. Lord LYNDHURST presented a petition from the owners of collieries in Derby and Nottingham, praying to be heard by Counsel against certain clauses of the Midland Counties Bill. THE LORDS' AMENDMENTS. Lord LYNDHURST presented a petition from Blackburn, signed by between one and two thousand persons, praying their Lordships to adhere to their amendments to the Irish Muni cipal Bill ; also a petition from Ipswich on the same subject. NORMAL SCHOOLS. The Duke of SUTHERLAND presented a petition from an individual named Worthing, praying for the establishment of normal schools throughout the country. IaILROADS. The Duke of WELLINGTON gave notice that he would put a question to-morrow to the Noble Viscount (Melbourne) as to the course to be pursued in reference to Railroads. HOLYHEAD PACKET STATION. The Marquis of WESTMEATH, seeing the Noble Lord (Duncannon) in his place, wished to put a question to him on the subject of the report of the Commissioners of Post Offic e inquiry. It appeared from that report that the present state of things at the Holyhead station had existed for twenty years,. and that it had now been ascertained, beyond all doubt, that the vessels plying from thence to and fro across the channel were in a dangerous condition. This danger resulted from two causes, namely, the total absence of all means of extin guishing fire in the event of accident, and the contiguity of the coal magazines to the furnaces used for the purposes of the boilers. It also appeared that a good deal of peculation and malversation had gone on in the Government yard at Holy head; and what, therefore, he wished to know from the Noble Viscount was, whether it was intended to supersede the esta blishment at Holyhead, and to contract with private individuals for the conveyance of the mails in future? He should also like to be informed as to whether any, and what, steps had bee-.a taken to guard against the danger to which he had alluded? Viscount DUNCANNON, in reply, said that his Righ t Hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer had given notic e of his intention on the part of the Government to bring tw e Bills into the House of Commons for the purpose of altering the constitution of the Post Office. By one of those the con_ troul of the packet stations was intended to be transferred from the Post Office to the Admiralty. After some further explanations between the Noble Lords, which were not audible in the gallery, the conversation dropped. ECCLESIASTICAL COMMISSION. Lord GODERICH wished to know from the Noble Viscount when the return which he had moved for some time back, relative to the expense of the Ecclesiastical Commission„ would be laid on the table. Viscount DUNCANNON was understood to say that the returns would soon be ready. MIDLAND COUNTIES RAILWAY. The Duke of BUCCLE UGH presented a petition in fa.. your of the Midland Counties Railway. Viscount DUNCANNON presented a petition, signed by between four and five thousand persons, on the same subject, MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONS. A deputation from the Commons brought up the East Counties Railway and other Bills. Lord LYNDHURST had moved for some returns relating to appeals before the Privy Council which were necessary for the discussion which was to come on that evening. He re gretted they were not forthcoming. The Marquis of L ANSDOWNE had the returns in his hand, and regretted they had not been laid on the table sooner. COMMUNICATION BETWEEN IRELAND AND AMERICA. The Marquis of LA NS D 0 WN E then presented the Report of the Select Committee, which had been appointed for the purpose of inquiring into the best means of facilitating the intercourse between the United Kingdom and North Ame.. rica. Although the Committee had obtained much and valuable information, they felt before they submit.. ted any specific recommendation to the House, that their inquiries should be further extended, and they therefore recommended that the evidence taken should be printed, and in the hands of their lordships : in the mean time the Committee would devote every attention to the subject, which would enable them to come to a satisfactory conclusion. NATIONAL EDUCATION—(IRELAND.) The Bishop of EXETER begged to ask the Noble Duke at the head of the Commission of National Education in Ireland, when the annual returns would be laid upon the table. The Duke of LEINSTER was not then prepared to answer the question. The Marquis of DOWNSHIRE said he regretted that he had not been present when the Report of the Cora_ mittee sitting up stairs en the subject of facilitating the intercourse between this country and America had been read. He certainly trusted that the Committee would not lose sight of a subject of such importance.—(Hear, hear.) It was unnecessary to allude to the advantages which would accrue to the country, in point of revenue, from a steam communication from the Western coast of Ireland and Ame rica, while it shows to the country at large that their Lordships were a.,are, and fully appreciated the na. tural advantages which the whole of Ireland possessed. Lord MELBOURNE pcesented a petition from shel against certain amendments made by their Lordships Cot the Municipal Corporation (Ireland) Bal. COURTS OF CHANCERY REFORM BILL. The Order of the Day for the second reading of t o h n e e : . for the better administratin of justice in the Court Chancery having been read, point l' h The fLORDform he CHANCELLOR w as under the necessity th n s o a f i d in t o lt t t h sh o e u vi g oor h auel i of the day for the second reading of the u:ist of the two Bills which he had lately introduced, yet their leZdshiP probably think it convenient that the two Bills—a 2 l e. the better administration of justice In the Court of Cn.:"Ty, respectingand the other the appellate jurisdiction of eir Lordships' House, and of the Privy Council, should be cussed as one measure. In point of fact, they depended on e upon the other, and the arguments which applied to the on e would apply of necessity very much when discussing the othe r , Before he said anything upon the merits of these two me t , sures, he had to state to their Lordships that on going jute Committee, he intended to propose an alteration in the stre r ,,, ture of the first of these two Bills. As it was printed, it ce r _ rectly represented what it was his object to attain ; but it W as short inasmuch as regarded the machinery fer carr d y is in so g lu t t h io a: sgt o l ihnbroojonoeruert of fdea i rnnr, Parliament, nutrtihtehlacte e moi inietnah ff os trmidie.tcejsimect:ufeaedtorsnaca.ertrjhsnt carry justified was, yeidtatttdey T ocisloset:titb h ainaal crlyit e vnestfi eoheocnntatmeasure Bill declared that thf!ir Lordship ' , House should, notwithstanding any prorogation d of Parliament, be at liberty to attend to the judicial . of the House. As far as the point of dissolution w h a u s s , i-11 : 11 - it it vh r od e u s i rld t de e gdnsa not td u r e p ta o opl n vpoaeo t ap h l rdreobrsooratea worth,2 corned, although upon p ohfi r etp i ee n ea c trs i iiu p mor l d e oes , it whi a le to leave the measure open royalondun operation. after ttrteihephat r t ortet o ttoi hooac a enßl t n i a. prorogation clausemlrelLordshipsoaNretxolvaiobjectionrogosohneuafa tltdiotthofhnooersa require tgpsmt oti should htr a ruhrooe t oleenugd s l, sa c al ;1. r oooa ei Ipom t s a o u of c e epflu id ai h nr i n s lf e e s i ocar o i roym n l ld l Lordships to meet for the purpose of hearing appea writs of error only ; and that it should be lawful for , a nd jesty to discontinue that sitting whenever he ple for th e again to summon the House during the prorogati'ounds b„ like purpose. He would now state upon wh0...:( readin g of called upon their Lordships to assent to the sot express his re the Bill. Before he did so, however, he mu'been made to a s: gret at finding that the returns which hart.