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search for British seamen in merchant vessels ; a subjed Which is wholly uneonnetlett with the case : of the Leopard and the Chesapeake, and wJtich can , only tend to complicate and embarrass, a discussion in itself of sufficient delicacy and importance. In stating the grounds upon which your Govern- . Ment expect with confidence that " the whole sub . jett of impressment shall be taken up at this and that in making the reparation which was claiin ed for the particular injury alludged to havepeetisits... tained by the. United States in the late unfortunate • transaction off the Capel• of- Virginia, " a remedy shall be provided for the whole evil ;" you appear to have been dire&ed to assume that this ad of vieleece, such as.you describe it, is the natural and aln-tosfne cessary result of the practice of impressment of Bri.. tish seamen iron; the. Merchant vessels of other States ; and to repreient the particular 'transaction, and the general question of. impressment as " idea - . tilted in the feelings and sympathies of your nation,, '• as well as in the sentiment of your. Government.'" With every attention due to the feelings. of the , people of the United States, I am sure you will rea. dily allow that those feelings cannot properly be . considered as affeeting the merits of the case. The first•Obullitionss' of ". national sensibility" may very naturally have eonsmdnicated an impulse to the pro, ceedings of the Americtin government ;. but it can not be expelled they should guide the deliberate opinions and condutt of the Geternmeut with which which you have to treat. I would farther observe . to you,, that . you Government cannot rea • sonably claim any advantage in argument 'from the expressed sense of its own. people, unless it ix: pre pared to take upon itself a. responsibility (whichthere is no desire of attributing to it) fur the outrage and indecency with which, upoh the late occasion, that expression has in too many instances been accotn nanied, It is, better for temporate reasoning, and assuredly it is more advantageous for the - G,ovein • went of the United States, that the'consideration of the popular feeling should Wholly omitted io this diseussioo. The right anti the praCtice of which you a..e. strutted to complain as irreconcilable with justice, and intolerable in all their parts, have been exercis ed by Great Britein from the earliest ages of the Brt tisla. naval power even without any qualification or' exception in favour of national ships ot - war. The grounds upon which such a•distinalien has been admitted in later times, and upon which, for the conrse of nearly a century,, the crown has for borne to instruct t he Commanders of its strips of tears to search foreign ships of war for deserters,. I have already had the honour to explain to you . : and you will have 'perceived that thosepounds are wholly in.- applicable to thipain the merchant service. That a foreign power will not knowingly retain . Inits national service mariners the natural born subjects of his Majesty, who have•been recalled 4. ' public Proclamation, may be regarded as a presump. tion arising out of the hostile natore of the 46t. and • out of the probable conseiiiettCes to. which such, au at of hostility niu.st lead- But with reaped to ceerehistt verse s, there is no such presuaTtion. Whin mariners, subjects of his Majesty, are employed in the private service of fo reign individuals, wider private civil contracts, the King% subjects, arid the foreieri individuals with wham they contract to Serve, enter into engagements inconsistent with the duty of his Majesty's subjects . towards him but to those erizapnien,:s the Goveru mem of the t9reigtruation bas not made itself a par ty. in such cases the species 'of redress which the pra&ice of all' times has admitted and sanctioned, is' the taking those sobie'cis at sea out of the service Of such foreign individuals, and re-calling them to rho discharge of that previous and paratuount,duty which. they owe to their Sovereign- and their Country. That the exercise of this tiOt involves some of the dearest interests of Great Biitaio, your Govern , ment is ready to acknowledge, and has aecordiugbr authorised.yon•to propose certain regulations, which you apprehend would be equivalent it► their, etlid. for the preservation of the. interests concerned. There will be no indisposition here to entertain at a proper tittle the discussion of such proposed re-. gulations. But when you recollett.that many pro.: - posals to this effed have already been found wholly inadmissible ; when you have yourself recently had occasion to experience the difficulty 'of framing any satisfatlory arrangement upon the subject ; with all the anxiety which. is properly felt by boas Govern atents for the speedy adjustment of the ditference between theoi, and fur the " healing of that'deep wound which you state to have been inflicted on the national honour of the United States :" surely it is not well advised to make the termination of that dif ference and , the healing of that wound dependent wholly on the complete success of an attempt whiCh has already been made so• often, and which has hi.. therto uniformly failed. Your own reasoning spews that you are aware of • the more than ordinary difficulty which must attend 'any arrangement for 'the prevention of desertioo be tween the two nations, whose similarity of manners... and habits, and whose identity of languagc,inter.;• pose so many impudiments..to the discrimination of " national charaCter." ' \ .To these circumstances, and not (as you seem al most to insinuate) to any peculiar harshness towards the .United States, it is owing, that the exercise of this right, as with resped to them, is necessarily more frequent than with respect to any other na tion, and is felt by them to be more rigid and vexa tious. Bat these circumstances cannot -furnish an argument for the suspension of the exercise of the. right with respeatio America, unless it be contend ed that multiplicity of frauds and difficulty of detee. tion are reasons against suspicion, or motives for ac. • quiescence. . As little foundation is there for the complaint that the pradiee • has grown out of the recognition of American independence; and that the character of 'that eveut is affected by its continuance. in thatanrepeat Gen pare operated' any chang e in that respek.l; un- 1 less it can be shown, that in acknowledgi ng t h e Government of the United States, Great Britain vir- ; tually abdicated her own rights as a naval tamer •' or unless there we're any express stipulations, s rint PAPER, RELAtIVE`TO AMERICA. .The following is an Official Copy of the excellent -Letter of Mr. secretary Canning to Mr. Munroe, of which we wade only a slight minltion• in our Paper of Tuesday. It is a document which we are ilr snacled will be read with plea tire, as containing principles awl arguments every way congenial to Bri, tishiteling and British spirit SIR, l'areign Office, Sept. 23.,.1807. . . _ . 1 have laid before the King,.roy master, the letter which I hail the honour to receive from you on the iill of iliii R10:1111. BetOie I proceed 'to observe upon that part of it which, relates iuore immediately to the question now at issue between our,two . Goi.ernments, I ant corn in the first instance, to express the sur prise which is telt at the total omission of a subjeot upon which Y had already been conunavded to apply to you tor intOrmation—the Ptoelatuatioh purported to have been issued by the President of the United Stares. Of this Paper, when last I addressed ?ou upon it, you professed not to have any knowledge beyond what' the ordinary c h an nels of public in- foitnation afforded, nor any authority to declare it to be authentic. • . I reel it an indispeuiible'duty to renew nay enqui ry on this subject. The • answer which I may rec3ive from you is by no Means unimportant to the settlernent of the' niscUssion which has arisen from the encounter between the Leopard and the Chesapeake. The whole of the question arising out of that transa&ion, is in fact no,other than a question,as to. the amount of leparation due by his it for the unauthorized ait of his Offi cer : and yo,u Will, therefore, readily perceive, that in so far a,ithb Government of the United States have thought proper to take that reparation into their own hands, and to resort to merkures of reta- Nation, previously to any cliakt% application to the British Government, or to the British Minister in • America, for redresS; in so far the British Govern- . ruetitis entitled to take such measures into account, and to. consider them its, the estimate of reparation. which is acknowledged to have been originally due. The total evlusion of all ships of war belonging to one of tub belligerent parties; while the. ships of war of the other were protected by the harbotirs of the neutral-Power, would furnish no light ground of c,,mplaint a b ainst that neutral, if considered in any other point of view than as a measure of retaliasion for previous injury, and, so considered, it cannot but be necessary to take it into account in the ad tistnient of the original dispute. , I am, therefore, distitiCtly, to repeat the inquiry, whether you are now enabled to declare, Sir, that the Proclamation is to be considered as the ,authentic adt of your Govern-' tnent and, if,so, lam further to inquire whether yQu•are authorised to notify the-intention of lour WI/eminent to withdraw that Proclamation on the knowledge of his Majesty's disavowal of the.ad which occasioned its publication The light in which you are direded to represent Mama' ilerlseley's conoud, and the delicription which you gibe at the charader of . the measure Ito , pined to lout : that " headed us - it he had the power _ to make war, and to decide'causes of war," suffi ciently evince the eecessay or comprehenditiz in this diA:us4ion all the circumtances which have led to, or have followed, the action with the Cltasa peake. Undoubtedly the •attack upon a national ship of war is an act of hostility; and • the very essence of the charge agiiinst Admiral lierkelex e a: you repre. sent it, is the having taken upon himself to conunit an aCt of nosiility without the previous authority of his.Guverninent. ,The proyucittion which may. have led to such an wiihotit such. previous authority, if it cannot. may possibly extenuate it : as they steps which have been taken in reprisal, though they can., not alter the character of the original act, may and. do Mate:lady aired every question concerning the reparation claimed for it, thi this ground it is, that while I am commanded to repeat, to you (what you consider` as so iatisfaaory), that the general and unqualified pretension to search ships of war for de serters is not asserted by, this country, I am pre , eluded trona concurring in the inference, that there fore " the national character of the men who were violently taken from on board the Ch es ap ea k e makes no part of the present question." If the right to search ships of war for deserters is not insisted upon by this country, it is not because the employment and the detention of British mari ners on.board the national ships of any Stat e are con sidered as less injurious towards Great Britain than their employment on hoard of merchant vessels (a proposition which would be manifestly absurd) -: it is not intended to allow, that the sailors of Great Britain.may be justly-employed against her consent, in foreign ships of war; but merely that redress is, in that _ease, to he sought fir by Government from Govermnent ; and not to be summarily enforced by the unauthorized Officer of any ofhis Majesty's ships of war. ' • It follows from this reasoning, that not only the " national character of the men *taken out of the Chesapeake is matter fur con.licieration r ,,but that the reparation to be made by the British Governinent to that ot . the United States, would depend, among other circumstances, on tire question whether an' a't, which the British Government would be justi fied in consi,:c:lng as an at of hostility, bad been cOminit led by the GovernMent of the United States (in ref Using to clisenaige British seamen in their na tional service) previously to the commission of an ad of hostility.by an Officer of his Majesty. The act of the British Officer would still be an unauthorised aft, and as such liable to complaiat i and disaperobatidn ; but the Case, as between Guvern mein and Government, would be ivaterially varied. At the sane time that I offer to you tins explana. , lion 61 the principles upon which his ..Majesty has authorised me to discuss with you the subject or your representation, and that I renew to yoti "the assur ance: of the disposition to condua that discussion in the most amicable form, and to : bring it to a conclu sion satislattory to the honourand to the feelings of both countries, it. is niattei of regret that you should hive been instructed to annex to the demand for re paration for the attack of the Leopard upon the Che- Lpyake' s any pri.position whatever • respecting the winch tli antient andliciutuptive usages of Grea Britain, founded in the soundest pr.nc pies of natural law, though still enforced against .the independent -stations of the world, were to be suspeuded when ever they might come in collo& with the iuterests or the feelings of the American people. I would now recall your attention to the conside.. ration 'of the - question yespeditig the late transatlion between the Leopard and the Chesapeake ; till the receipt of your letter, I imagined to- be the only question In discussion between us ;. and in consideration ot the delicacy and pressing im portance of which, `we had, by ! common consent, waved the consideration of all other matters pending between our two UovernmeOts. Into the discussion. of. this question I am pr pared to enter ; with what disposition, on the part of his Majesty's G.overnme6f, to consult the- feelings and the' honour of the Go - vernment of the United States, it' is not necessary for we here to declare, for you have yourself done justice to the sincerity of that disposition. The. difficulties in the way of such adjustment are already smoothed, by the disavowal voluntarily offer ed, at the very outset of the discuSsion, of the gene ral ana unqualiaed pretension to search. ships of war fordeserters. Them remained only to. ascertain the fads of the particular case, and to proportion the re- , prat ion to the wrong.. Is the British 'Government now to. understand,. that you, Sir, are not authorised to - enter into this question separately and distinctly, without having obtained, as. a .pielitninary concession, the consent of this country to enter into. discussion with respeCt to the prak.tice of searching merchant vessfas for des setters ? • Whether nny arrangement cart be devised by which Pis pratice may admit of modification, without pre judice to the essential rights And interests of Great. .Britain, is a question which, as I have already said, the tiritish government May, at a proper season, be ready to entettain ; , but whether the consent of Great liiritain w. the entering into such discussion shall be extorted as the price. of an amicable adjustment, as. the condition of being erdinittecl to make lionourablq reparation tor ati injury, is a question of suite a (lit; ferent.sort, and one which can be answered nclother wise than by an unqualified refusal. I earnestly re commend to y Ott, therefore, to consider, whether the instructions which you have received from your Go vernment may not leave you at liberty to come to an adjustment of the ease of the Leopaid and the Che sapeake, independently of the other question with which it appears to have been unnecessarily con nected. . if your iustruiaians leave you no discretion, I can,: not press you to act in contradiction to them. In that case there can be no advantage in pursuing a discussion which yoct are not authorised to.conclude; and I shall have only to•regret that the disposition of his Majesty to terminate thatditterence amicably and satisfattorily is for the present tendered unayailing. In that case bis Niajesty, in pursuance of the dis poiition of which be has giyen such sigtial proofs, will lose no lime in sending a Minister to Atiterica,, furnished with the n ecessary iinstructions and powers for bringing t !.is unfortunate dispUte to-a conclusion, consistent with du.; harmony subsisting between Great Britain and the- United StRIS:3. Rut, in order to avoid the inconvenience which has ariseil Cron) the mixed thitureal your instructions, that . will .taut . be empowered to entertain, as comic:W:4 with 016 s,utx jea,, any proposition Nspetling ilia strcli ut . were chant vessels.. It will, however, be far more satisfaCtory to his Utjesty to• learn that, upon • re-consideration; yoa think yourself authorised to separate the two tiaes tions. hope . you will allow me to express, at the same time, the sincere pleasure winch - I should feel in kaving to treat with .you, Sir, personally, for the. re establishment of a (,)od under.tanding between uur two Countries. I ilaVe the honour to be, with•the Laigheit con' sitleraiion, your most obedient humble. Set rant, (Signed)• Gr.ottoz CANNINLi. POLICE. Bow-STREET.—Ycsterdty, about one o'clock, a marl of a respetlable appearance calred at the, Clneen!ii Palace, and 'said, he wanted to see the King. Being found to be insane; Alacmanus and Toi,voshend, the ()Ulcers in attendance, took bun into custody, and conveyed hinv before Mr. 11F.An i who . sent lb: the Officers of the Parish to.which be biiilungs, to have him taken care 'of. He proves to have bison deranged some y..:ar), and has, been 4tbr; in custody, , At a late hour,, a few nights • since, as Richard Lintherick, and another of the patrole, were passing through Queen-street, Lincoln's-Inn-fields, tbey observed three men standing at the door of a house adjoining Mr. GRAHAAPS s the Magistrate ; they went towards them to see what they were doing, when two of theM ran off, and streded their escape ; ;iv/latent scuttle then took place bet Ween the other man and the Officers, and they all got severely wounded. The man would probably have . made his escape, being. very strong sad powerful, had hot a man happened to come up at the time, who as sisted in securing him. He proves to be a very old and notorious housebreaker. On searching him there were found two iron crows, a large one for breaking open bureaus and drawers; a bunch of pick-lock keys, some phosphorus, and a piece of wax candle. He was examined before Mr. Rsso i and committed for having implements of house breaking found' Upon him. ,He has been couvicited of this offence betbre, and transported. His name is Harry Gritfiths; The apartments in K011141%10/I Palace, which have been for some. time fitting up for the Princess of AVALSS . , are nearly completed : some of her Royal Highness's servants - have been at the Palace several days, .making preparations for her reception. fler Royal Highness is expecled to dress there on Sa turday, for court, on his MAJESTY'S Birth-day, and to sleep there on that night. A murdered infant was found. on Wodnesday, in one of the fields leading. trotn Pancras to Ketnisli Town, by 'two boys. Yesterday an Inquest was held at the sign of the Duke of York public-house, Somers Town, when a Verdid of Murder w,as rut urned against some person unknown. le.tt•eotpl, Bo w - st i ect; LONDON s Printed by tem stlin HARRIS, of No. a , Ntart 40 4 publistic by WI Lt.:A 14 AR/410E4 Sc* t PPS, Sfitith Nlnht At the SUN -OFPIcv No. it: Strand ; wh ore drivettisemtvis r O(CPS t or e, pow, I eitrn for the 4ditor s B:c4 (Ptift-Pgd 4 l.l . OAP B.i.t.ALE.r. Wedr. - 2scfly the Fessions.comnenced beff.): a Nei,: Justica Gtt )sE Mr. Daraa . GEA LIAM, ti 34 LOAD', I\letY OR A ItECORDEC mad. sow ()tiler City Nnili" traICS. _ . . i - Thema; Wood . was inclined for counterfeitiog a piece of coin of the likeness. and sitniliiude of the • good and lawful coiu of the realm. The substance of the evidence was this : ! --,,Slitubs. and Leadbetter, two City Constables, Went t 4, SVal;Ck 1, , r stolen goods iu FIeUX-de.LIS , Colirt;. 811141601** The krisonqr was there; he was stispetted ;. and tife)'. • went to. his lodging in Ilobit t Shoe4twe:. fliestolen goods were. not found, but all the rnate-,., vials necessary far coining sixpences were discover-..; ed, and the man was apprehended. The prittciPar Witness against him was Margaret West (the girt whose person was brutally ill-treated a short time,. agq, in Dube-street, Lincoin's-inn-tields).;, she very . candidly stated, that she never saw the Prisoner a: work, but. there was something of a secrecy about his door--when he was at home it was. locke.l, but when his wife only was at home it usually lily seem; and very early in tho. morning before be went out * the witness used to be disturbed in her bed with A heavy thumping noise.. Several .counterfeitsitt .,- • Fences were found in his pocket and ip his room. WT. ALLEY, Counsel tor the priaope, objected to the technicality of the Charge irfthe.indicimentg, as there WAS nut any impression on, any of ilia CO This the Qourt over-rulea,, on account of the pre sent lamentable state of ouw silver coinage,, itqa tlI Prisoner was foupd Guilty.-- Eath- Mary Miller, for stealing divers bank notes,. valoP: the property of Nathaniel Webb, privaNtir from his person—Z. Heaney, for stealing saverai banknotes, five linen and other. articles', (3 .C. . Jame Allardice—flyman Harris, for stealing rights silver tablt spoons, the propertx of George TWIW* Qa.nie4 atien, for breaking and entering the dwelt ling house of Charlotte Milton, and stealing a handkeri:hief, value ss.—.were eapita.4 convit.te• Yesterday u.ineteen prisoriers were tried, two of whom, were capitally convieted & via. Win ; Smith„ tot felonitausli breaking and entering the OvielliophoUgt of Christopher Waring, a r ced stealing a carpet I n' s other articles, his properly i I s aa c; Regus, for break . ' ing a.nci entering thedwelling,house of Ellen cragv, in the dayettime, no person being therein, and 61 01 ' ing four bilk gowns, it pair of sheets, aria athec Ara, cles, her property. ' • Nine were eonvitled of felony,, viz. John Kei ll°ll.l alias Brooks, David Swinston, John, Wilson, Thos, Aldridge, Francis Moore, Ann Mason, Isaac Israel., Mary. Anne Tyra, anti Ann Simmons i and eig. 4 were acquitted.• A shocking accident happened on. Wednesday af, ernoon last, four tuiles.beyond Rumford, A Geo' ttrtuan's carriage, driving at a great rate,. overturill' e 4 a can, with a man anal his wite in it, and wh h ich was pulling up to make way for the carriage. Tl were both unfortunately killed,. and liqta left nino children to lament their loss. Whey were conveyed to the village of Brook, for the CoroAter's ingoot• which met ye*terday, - Notwithstanding this fali, 4 accident, the Oentlenian's carriage never stopp et4 tent kiN , driver will eat. escape., as tin is tortuivatO, know). "' • SHIP N ELfS . 10.71. L. MAY 31. Arrived—the Jamieson, Marshall, train Malta And lbe Vlora, —, tram Sr, Michael's. CeAVISEND, IV :44 I. Passed by—the Trat..llt, Liston, from Malta; and th.q' Garland, Sanderson, front Gut.enburgh. d the S‘aitert the Industry, Wilson, for St. Ivlichael's ; an - Brothers, Stephens, for lhienisey. ellt 1 /la. • . . • On Tuesday morning, in Dorset street, l'ortman•s c l" ret the Klett Hon. Lady l•orts, of a Son. On Wednc•Aay last, at Unthatn; Iledfordshire, flit L a dy of lohu Campbell, Esq. (la Daughter. - ' f car . (hi IVedoesnay the 201 'ijt. Mrs. Sanders, Wil e . ° • taiii T. Sanders, of the kloit. East .Indta company's ShIP Northampton, on the 29th ult. at litooklands, Hants, the I.:0y of Will Stuart, Esq. ola Daughter. ---------il MARRIED. On Tuesday, at Titchfteld Church, Hants, bey the g'h v ' .- I%IK. Ratcliffe, Robert Curry, Esq. of Gosport, to 5 2 ' 2 " 2: youngest - daughter of john Payoe, Aitq, of port House. . The same day, a; S 4, —l4rhaln Prior, Cambridgeshire, Rco. bert Wilkinson E§q. of New Norfolk -street, C;rosvf,ll°trii, o u n g r it , er of of tli t o he square, to Catherine, eldest daughterof the late fbh l l 0 ' ;Mix; Esq. of Swart - ham-House • r7optairl On, Wednesday, at St. Georv's, Hanovertsqutire.,.w I N V ta il rg li at atn et, l e re ld la e n st a da t son, Commander of the Esti 'Dartmouth ,EastAndidn ion ' .. ofTLE . se h q, E o i .Is tn i :a r t si i., I. L a yta g ov. i g oeE t rr i i; mn Rector 01.;m...4, liri h. e o if, only I * ,t h i c e k ;I I Yesterday, at St ; Anne's . Church, Westminster, the liflf Of I • " mersall, Yorkshire. to PO The same day, Mr. Dixon, of Ironrnonser. l 4 llll, A lk l i a a te dr ca o plitasitnabDlisbvhi,ll .ronitio.:4' F Dra ke's: Yesterday at St. l' 1' , ancras, ohn Allen, Ef.q. ("„ n ie vitts Place, Worcestctsiiitt, tq Miss Cooper, of LIPP.' T -- st trot. • 6 4 bent* , The Same day, at Nlary-le-bone Church, IV. " • fto ig , eldest son ol E. Roberts, Esq. of Ealing, Midd lese idis. E 1142, steed dauglitia of the late T. W. A. WAllingc r l ~ or Hare-Hail, Essex. '4ll 11l i tn u rn i e ' h , B c t daughter l u l o o n i p t y s W: l i n ! 1 i t arii : ..."- cl o tj a..ift "In Saturday, Mr. Edit ends, s vrgeon , o f G r eetlVVl t , Miss Milne, of Viiiiburgo.elds, 81a,..-kheath. A few days ago, Mr. 1% All is, of Messrs. Robertig t a llil l Manly's Company of Cornediatu, to Miss Jaekitth• Doncaster. ____.....!gs' DY On Saturday last, at Hartlebury Castle, aged SS, 0; 111 / 1 ,11 Rev. kicitard Hurts, D.D. Lord Bishop o tWorcest i c • ho ts, venerable Prelate hid been Preceptor tp His itoYtil Thib" the Princrof -Wales. p ir os i st. On Monday last, at his !Awe in Castle.street, Mr. Henry Pride. r u nty ef On Tuesday se ' nnighr, at Broeton.Hall, in the — 43 —i ii ne* , Stafford, alter a• hing and p.ontul agod J y , n4 l,, KesslChrtwynd, Esq. third son of Sit George CPO' hat. ,of Grendon-Hall, Warwickshire, , tArs On the kith ult. at her house us Castle -street, Mrs . lonel Hay, relict of Colonel Hay, Q I CYarrieston,.tt nu of Sir Alexander Nlonro,. of Novar. IC F, Snit.' XS YESTIRDAY. I 78i I7S Bank t Stock I n dii Stock, lin 1,-.. 0 .. - : Navy 5 per Cent shut India bonds, PV, , 4 per Cent. 8 4 i. i ' tii. ;,her Cent. 8. ;:i 1 6 7 N;} 3 per C.vnt. Con. 6' i g °mutual, 4. 2i 3.; 3 r. , as =ilk 1.. w.,:, Ann. it, Li-16111,4 11.;,cpil:tliallIc311.1e4ifil:1121g,:::6‘ ? r.. Ditto Slant Ano. , Cfilli. tor 2251 loth oosi ___----"" NIGH VIA L'Eit. A . LON:)uN - TO-41°11•" itow. 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