The Sun. — London, England, 1818-09-14 00:00:00

~lllt. BROUGH Am. ON EDUCATION. FOR THE SUN. Mn. norrort,---.flu my arrival in town, I was very anxious to peruse Mr. BRoUGIIAM'S Letter to Sir ROMILLY, on the abuses of Pub lic Charities. I expected that he would at tewht to sink the provisions of the Bill as origi uoity introduced by him into Parliament, and which were so properly and so early reprobated in yoer excellent Paper, as unconstitutional, in quisitorial, arbitrary, and unjust ; and I find my sell collect in that respect ; for, throughout this lahoured, pamphlet, he has endeavoured to show that the powers with which he first proposed to invest the Commissioners were perfectly consist ent with the rules of onr Courts of Law and Equity, and not contrary to the principles upon which their proceedings against individuals, whose conflict is arraigned before tbem,are regulated. To enable the poblic, however, to form a correct opinion of the nature of Mr. Brougham's Bill, as FIRST brought into the House of Commons, I call on that Gentle man to add to the Appendix to his Letter, which is riot yet published, the Bill as originally intro duced, the Bill as amended, and the Act as carried up to the House of Lords. The public will then have an opportunity of judging correctly of this case, and of the degree of credit which is to be give') to Mr. Brougham's statements in his Let ter to his friend Sir Samuel Romilly. But until these different editions or revisions of this famous Bill are before the Public, and there were sir edi tions of it in the Commons, it will be difficult for them to form a proper estimate of the conduct which has been pursued on this occasion. Mr. Brougham in Ibis Letter most studiously avoids mentioning the case of Dulwich College, and the Bill to alter its constitution and management ; the provisions of which were in direct contradic tiou to the express will and the statutes of the Founder, and which would have compelled the Fellows of the College to violate the oath that they had solemnly and voluntarily taken upon their admissions, and from which they had pledged themselves never to consent to be absolved. Mr. Brougham also forgets to notice or justify the in road, which, as a Member of a Committee of the lost Parliament, it is said, lie made on that great constitutional rule, which, for ages past, has been observed in our Courts of Law, " that the information communicated confidentially by a client to a lawyer, in the exercise of his profes sional duties, is not to be disclosed." That this principle was most shamefully disregarded in a Committee of the last Parliament is notorious. It is to be regretted that the subject was not brought before the House. it would then have been seen, whether the House would lend itself to the assumption of a pourer and rigour beyond the law, for if Committees of the House of Com mons have a right to extort from professional men the secrets of their employers, a power not ill vested in the Courts of the Kingdom, it is high time that some legislative enactment should he made to limit all authority so dangerous to the cH, , ,iits, liberties, and properties of the people.— The assumption of jut:tic's'. power by Com mittees, of by the House of Commons, should be siewed,with jealousy, awl opposed, by all consti tutional means, by the Public. I may on another d., V' bring- to the recollection of your renders the circumstances which gave rise in former 'hues to the Kentish Petition and the Legion Letter, - and in more modern tittles to the celebrated Speech of Mr. 'Littleton, in which he denied this power in the Commons, and reprobated as unconstitutional their attempt to exercise it. It is very convenient to ,write and circulate pamphlets, and to suppress and overcharge facts; bat Mr. Brougham forgets altogether that the public attention was drawn to his Bill,within two days after it was first printed, by your remarks, and which were followed . up by further observa tions your Paper, and in other public Prints. Fur the present 1 have only to repeat my request, that Mr. Brougham will print the several editions and revisions of his t Bill in the Appendix which he is about to publish, and in the third edition of his Letter he may probably condescend to assign some reason for the unconstitutional and arbitrary conduct which he adopts throughout the inquiries into Public Schools and Public Charities. It he does, I may be induced to trouble you again, for lie must he aware that the Press is open to all parties ; and motives may be assigned for questions' asked, in the course of these inquiries, which may lead the Public to conclude that such zeal as he has shewn on these occasions is not always bot tomed in disinterestedness, impartiality, or the love of justice. That this measure of Mr. Brougham, Sir Sa muel Romilly, and Mr. Babington, for they were the triumvirate named to bring in the Bill, was not free from suspicion on political and religions grounds, is generally admitted. As far as the Public arc concerned, a less expensive, • shorter, sad more certain mode of proceeding might have, been adopted than that which has been establish ed in the present, instance. The great objection to the investigation of the abuses of Public Cha rities ,and Schools has been the want of funds to institute inquiries. If, therefore, the Attorney aid Solicitor-General had been by Act of Parlia ment authorised to direct informations to be filed at the instance of persons making applications to tliein, pointing out abuses in these Institutions, but at the public expence, wherever the funds of the Establishrnents were either inadequate or could not be resorted to for costs, the great ob j.ct would have been obtained in a manner con genial to the spirit and the laws of the country, and the present Bill rendered unnecessary ; for, in Mr. Brougham's first Bill, his own Commis sioners, with the large salaries which they were to have enjoyed under an indefinite commission as to duration of time, were directed to proceed at law, atter they had most likely spent more Homey in investigations than the costs of a suit amount to, and to draw on Government for their expences in carrying on the same. lu page ten of Mr. Brougham's Letter he says, " we had armed the Commissioners with the power of compelling the production of Papers, and obliging every one to answer such questions as (lid NOT criminate himself . ." Now, 1 venture to ask Mr. Branlt& ') if this assertion does not apply to the third revist in of his Bill,and not to the first or second; and whe her, in the first edition, the Com= missioners were not authorised to commit to prison, there to remain without trail or main-prize, " any person who wo ild not answer such questions as were pia to hi n ;" and whether the restrictive words, " wide') should not criminate themselves,'' were not intro bleed as an amendment, in couse quencedf the reprobation expressed in y'onr and other Papers ; and whether the powers origiftly proposed to he given to these Commissioners did not also authorise them to investigate the titles of the hinds, &c. belonging to these institutions, and enable them to call for title deeds as well as pa pers ! ! An inquiry into the management of pub lic Institutions of this nature is certainly necessary wherever abuses exist—but any attempt to dis close the tides of the estates by which they arc maintained and supported, is a strong feature of THAT SY!•TPSI which the writers in The Edinburgh Review have so long endeavoured to inculcate and impress on the Public Mind cases noticed iti Mr. Brougham's Letter are partially selected. lie probably Might, without much difficulty; have found a few other masterships of Hospitals similarly circumstanced will' those of "Mere and Spital, but then some of his own political friends and their connexions might have been implicated ; but more of this topic in an other Letter.. Other schools in IVestu►oreland and Cumberland might likewise have been men tioned, -as Well as St. Bees, but for the same reason ! ! ! NOT A LAY PROPRIETOR OF NORFOLK LIVINGS.' Trtvistock Hotel, September 32, 18;8. LONDON JOURNALS. [Morning Herald, Sept. 14.] THE QUEEN. Her Majesty, late on Friday night, again became exces sively restless, and unable to bear the least. deviation from a perfectly upright position in her chair. In consequence, she passed a painful and sleepless night. Throughout Saturday her Majesty remained, however, somewhat more at ease than might have been expected, an a l Sir Henry Halford left the Palace for London, for a few hours. At twelve o'clock the Duke of York arrived front his bouso in St. James's Palace, and, after remaining upwards of an hour with her Majesty and the Princesses, he went on to pay his customary Saturday visit to the Princess Sophia, at Windsor Castle. His Royal Highness intended returning thence to Outlands. In the course of the day, the Princess Augusta and the Duchess of Gloucester walked in the Botanic Gardens, with their Ladies in Waiting, and accompanied by General Taylor. In the evening, about five o'clock, the Prince Regent arrived at the Palace, front the Stud-house, and im mediately visited her Majesty. His Royal Highness after wards had a long conference with Sir Francis Milman and Sir .Henry Halford. At seven o'clock, his Royal Highness dined with the Princesses, General Taylor and the Physicians being of the party; and, her Majesty becoming more and more composed, his Royal Highness left the Palace, abou nine o'clock, for Carlton-house. Yesterday inurninir, the Official Bulletin was— " The Queen has had a very good night, but her Majesty's symptoms continue without any variation in thew. (Signed) " F. 111ILNIAN, " 11. HALFORD." .Up to eight o'clock, last night, no material alteration had taken place ; but (ruin these repeated attacks , , her Majesty, we understand, is in a state of the most distressing- exhaustion. The Princesses again walked out yesterday, accompanied by General Taylor, the Earl of Winchelsea, and Colonel Des-. brow, the former of whom arrived at the Palace from Wind sor, and the latter from London, about three o'clock. The Prince Regent arrived about five o'clock, and, as usual, passed nearly an hour in her Majesty's chamber with the Physicians, and afterwards dined with the Princesses. Ar rangements were made for his Royal Highness's re turn to Carlton House at nine o'clock last night. . [New Tiines.] - The Griffon sloop of war, Captain Wright, whose arrival at Portsmouth on Thorsday, front St. Helena, we have already announced, left that island the 2d of August, hav►ng been re lieved by the Dotterel, Captain Gore. The Conqueror, 74, Captain Wallis (flag-ship) ; Racoon, Capt. Brine; Podargus, Capt. Cairnes ; Redpole, Lieut. Pearson ; and Dotterel, Capt. Gore, were at St. Helena. The Favourite arrived at St. Helena the latter end of July, and was at Ascension when the Griffou touched there. The Eurydice was at the Cape of Good Hope. Mr. O'Meara, late Surgeon to Buonaparte, has come home in the Griffon ; Mr. Stoker, Sturgeon of the Con queror, had been appointed to supply his place. Buonaparte, it is stated, had rot been out of doors for several months, and was much indisposed with a liver complaint. The Governor had experienced a serious attack of bowel complaint the be ginning of Jul), from which, .however, he had recovered.— We are sorry to learn that the crew of the Conqueror, as well as the troops on the Island of St. Helena, were its an unusu ally u,healt by state, and that many 'deaths had taken place. Capt. Pasley, of the Redpole, died at St. Helena on the 9th July, after an illness of about six weeks. Lieutenant Pear son, of the Conqueror, had been appointed to the command of the Redpole.—Capt. Bunn, of the East India Company'S store-ship Mangles, died on the 29th July ; Mr. Dunning, of the Conqueror, passenger on board the Griffon, died on his passage. The James transport, laden with condemned stores front the Cape, sailed for England on the same day with the Griffon, and was to he followed in a day or two by the Brilliant transport, Lieutenant Bothwell. We were ycsjerday favoured with a tile of Sierra Leone Gazettes to the 18th of June. It gives us great pleasure to state, that they contain additional proofs of the increasing prosperity of this interesting colony, not only in the improve ments which are daily made in the colony itself; but in the rapid approaches to civilization which are visible in its ale pendencics. There is not only a considerable increase in the commercial relations of this infant settlement, but also, what is more desirable, a sensible amelioration of the morals of its inhabitants. This may be proved, as it is in the present in stance, by the continual decrease of criminal business at.t he General Quarter Sessions. For the last three or four of these judicial sittings we perceive that the calendar has become comparatively lighter, not only in the number of the accused, but also in the magnitude of. the offences. This diminution is, in a very great degree, owing to the active and persevering exertions of the Governor, and those who in). mediately assist hire in-the administration of justice. Amongst THE SUN. lOLEM QUIS DICEFtE YALSUM AUDEAT ? LONDON, MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 14, 1813. THE QU4EN.—The following is the Bulletin of this day : ' KIM PALACE, SF:PT. 14. " Han MAJESTY has not had a good night, but remains as well as yesterday. (Signed) " H. HALFORD. " F. MILMAN." We received yesterday the Paris Papers of Thursday last, and this morning those of Friday. The liING held a Council of Ministers on Wed nesday, which sat from one o'clock till half-past four. The Duke of GLOUCESTER, after visiting Bag- Beres, arrived at 'Montpellier on the 30th ult. where his Royal Highness viewed the different Establishments, and then dined with the Prefect and the principal Functionaries. The next day, after being present at the manoeuvres of the troops of the garrison, his Royal Highness set out, as before stated, for Nismes, which place he left on the Ist instant. The suit of M. de CHAPPEDELAINE aghinst the authors of the Leib - es Normandes, for a libel con tained in a paragraph respecting the alleged con spiracy, came on for trial on WednesdAy. After a long argument the defendants were acquitted. In Bavaria the people are occupied for the first time in electing Deputies to the Chamber of Re presentatives. An article from Berlin states it to be no longer doubtful 'that the Danish Minister, the Count de 13 ERNSTOI1FF, will enter the Prussian service, not as before stated, as Vice-Chancellor, but 0 $ • nister for Foreign Affairs., The discussions between Prussia and S° x°ll/ still continue, but they are said to be so far ter ' ['limited that th e C omm i ss i oners are only peed. pied in ascertaining the line of the frontiers ; labour, how ever , w hi c h i s ex p ecte d to laot t -e hO l during the ensuing winter. The Spanish Minister at Naples has been t on " missioned to demand the hand of one of the date ters of the Hereditary Prince, for the Infant P °ll FRANCIS PAUL. Great preparations have been made in the PO' sian dominions, at each stage, for the recce ° of the Emperor of Russia; The following are Extracts from the Journals of Ft idAy • ARIS, SEPT. 11.—The King transacted b aud ' u siness yesterday successively with the Duke a Richelieu and the Duke de Tarente, Grand CIO' cellor of the Legion of Honour. • We learn from Avignon that his Royal H i g h'' , ness the Duke of Gloucester arrived there 0 11 the Ist inst., and the next day went to visit the W it ' lain of Vaucluse. His Royal highness also ' ls4' ed the ancient Cathedral and the ruins of the PP' pal Palace. On the 3d he set out for Lyons' General Protean has been appointed bY bi Majesty Commandant of Calais. \ " The Review of the English troops is exPe r to take place immediately. The Duke of 1/4 ; lington will then, about the 20th instant, 5 01 out for Aix-la-Chapelle, and remain there O the termination of the Conferences. As s° 10 as they are concluded, the departing review °f , Allied Army will take place, and then every tingent will be put in route to return to ,h 1:1' homes. The order of march is already desig nate d viz. the Prussian Corps d'Arm4e will march throug the Grand Dtichy of Luxemburg, and the Terri' 0% tory of Treves ; the Russian Cavalry, after p fol 0 the Rhine, will traverse Germany t° ceed to Poland ; the Russian Infantry and /° l O ery will embark at Dunkirk. The English tr° will march successively to Calais and Bo" l°gI e : where they will embark; before ; their deP rt° bi s they will sell the hOrses, a nd a ll that part °f T be train which has become useless to them. t o Saxon corps will take the shortest road trt 0 Rhine; the Danish and Hanoverian troops 41. through Belgium. At Sedan, the principa l pages of the Prussian corps are ordered 10 re : o f grade to the Rhine. At Cambtay the Goof the English Royal Guards are disposing ° f horses, and every thing in the cantonment' b e flounces the preparations for departure: :t o French Colonel of Engineers Baudran, and Chef de Battalion Manrin, in concert wit h Se ea „101- ral English Officers of Engineers, are e lu t jiv e' in inspecting the places occupied, in ord er t „ tie rify their state, previous to their ,being surl-11 ed to the French Authorities. • IP t "We learn from Cambray the 7 th inst a n t , it 4 Lord and Lady Castlereagh arrived ther e : °c g, their suite, on the preceding evening, at 10°.c.,,,. They occupy the house of the Duke of W ell' s to ton. Lord Castlereagh, it is understood, °I be present at the Reviews. " Several quarries have been discover France, of stone suable for the purPses°t tliography. /‘ 41 . Jaye ci e Jaye Instruction examined on m n . r o f day two new witnesses, . respecting the a°l General Cannel. CO' " The Duke of Wellington set out fro l l) rhe bray on the o Bth inst. for Valencienn. '1" l o ci plo view of the E ': nglish contingent was t o t "" ' ft tic yesterday, near Bouchain ; and to-daY that Russian troops near Maubeuge. shot " An Englishman, aged about 22, 0° 06 on 'Wednesday in the park of Versailles' Aired in little more than an hour. FIVE PER CENTS. Shut price ..... 77 f. 75c• Ex. Div. Wedn es da ............ 74 f 40 y - Ex. Div. Thursday 74 f• 95c. Of the 22d March, DEFERRED STOCK Wednesday. Thurs(l3l. f 2 !• ..„ c 22d Sept. 1817....84f. 10c.... 84 t.w" f.l2llll , lareb, 1818 ..82f. c2O C. ... 621 * 2Clc. 1817.... Sri f. 10 c..... 86; s EXCHANGE ON LONDON . C. 241 . . 45 One Month Three Months . 9 gran D'`; ' " CONSTANTINOPLE, JULY 30.--Th e e received dispatches, confirtning the "P ull' br b i t es , Drehycli, the principal town of the Wec na al r im the. Ottoman troops, under the brs 1 d e n ° Pachi" It was expected that Abdallah if V orders ijed, h se the Chief of the Wechabites, would Jai made prisoner. for blli ldi4 ~ .--.1 r eparations are making here n il several ships of war. s' - ' l'Og t " The plague continues to raysge ''.) Bre o l , " the Islands of the Archipelago. l bere d 0 411 6c some cases of plague in this capio l P a of ' Pere. f t hC " RASTADT, SEPT. 4.—An Address o ' ed 0 l l ' t habitants of Darmstadt has bee n Pres° other new regulations lately planned for the better preserva tion of the laws, we cannot omit to notice one which has al ready been productive of the most beneficial results.—At the Sessions held in May last it was stated by the Chief Justice, the Hon. Edward Fitzgerald, in his address to the Grand Jury, that a plan had been submitted to, and approVed of br, the Governor and Council, which it was hoped would, by afford ing immediate redress in all cases of trivial aggression or fraud, put an end to those constant broils and frauds engendered amongst an irascible and IgnoraAt people by any lengthened delay in the settlement of their disputes. — This plan consisted in the establishment of an Office similar to our Polite Offices, where one of the Magistrates was to give daily attendance in his turn, with a power of investigating all complaints, and of affording such immediate redress as circumstances allowed. To any one acquainted with the character and disposition of the African negro, fierce and im patient of any controul where he thinks be is injured, but mild and tractable when he imagines that impartial justice will be ad mi nstered, this must seem a most wise and salutary rein lation ; and we are happy to learn, that as far as experience has been had of it in the colony, it has fully answered its ob ject : for we find the Chief Justice, at the ensuing Sessions, noticing to the Grand Jury, in strong 'terms, the good effects which it had produced : but this is still further proved by the state of the then calendar, which only pre sented four persons fur trial, and these merely for as saults.—Among the other topics introduced in the course of the address to the Grand Jury, connected with the general economy of the colony, the Chief Justice also impressed on them, and through them on the other principal inhabitants and heads of families, the importance of the duty of in structing their native servants and those captured negroes who were in their employment in the English language, in a more perfect manner than that in which they then under stood it. The English language was the medium through which all other instruction was communicated to those per sons, and an adequate knowledge of it would be found highly beneficial in all matters of ordinary btAiness, - as well as in all cases where such persons should have to give evidence in trials at law touching matters of property, or matters of criminal justice. At present it but too often happened that when a native who knew nothing of English was brought before the Court, another native was brought to interpret between the Court and him, who spoke such a jargon for English, that it became necessary to call in a second interpreter, in order to make the language of the first intelligible. And by this twofold interpretation the Court and Jury had generally to grope their way, not only on the most important cases of property, but also on the more awful trials of life and death. Now one part at least of this complication of difficulties might be removed by a more diligent attention on the part of the principal authorities and heads of families, in giving a better knowledge of English to those employed about them as occa sional labourers, attendants ; or domestic servants. The ad vantage of that care would soon be felt, and if it was neglected the injuries resulting from that neglect would become daily more manifest and grievous. THEATRICAL REGISTER. Pe formed on Saturday Night. THEATRE ROYAL, DRU ItY-LAN E.—Romeo and Juliet : Romeo, Mr. H. Kenthle ; Juliet, Mrs. Mackenzie (their first ap pearance at this Theatre). To which was added, No Song No Supper. THEATRE ROYAL, HAYMARKET.—The Castle of Andalusia: J)on Fernando, Mr. Daruset; Lorenza, Miss Matthews. After which, Teasing made Easy. To which was added, The Agreeable Surprise. THEATRE ROYAL, ENGLISH OPERA, STRAND.—The Turnpike Gate : Crack, Mr. Harley; Mary, Miss Lore. After which, Amateurs and Actors. To which was added, The Death of Captain Cook. MAILS. ARRIVED-2 Dublin, 2 'Waterford, 1 Guernsey and Jersey, 1 flamlmigh, 1 Flanders, 1 France. Due-1 Sweden, 1 olland. PRICE 0 STOCKS THIS DAY AT T 'EINE WCIMCK. 3 per Cent. Cons . . .7544 Exch. Bills, 2d... 13s. 20s. pr. 5 per Cent. N. Ann.... 1054 f Omnitun . .. dis. 31 India 80nd5...... 84s. 85s. pr. Cons. for Account 7511i HIGH WATER A'l' LONDON BRIDGE TO.NIORROW. Morning. 42 minutes after 2. I Evening, 7 m i nutes after 3. 1 4 ‘t. t t t' i t " i„:.1 (~ 1 ~~ t~ ` ~VI.