The Sun. — London, England, 1808-06-21 00:00:00

British Museum, for the lacigntent of the, Egyptian , Mr—R. WYNNE moved that an humble Address be presented to hip Majesty, praying that he 'would .graciously pleased to give direliOns for ere6ting heparate Prison for Lunatics detained under cri minal charges, according to the Aa 40th Geo. 111. -After a few words Iron) Mr. Ros e, leave was given :airing in the Bill. •DEFENUE OF ;TFIE COUNTRY. On thernotion for the third reading'of the Scotch . Local Militia Bill, Mr. YORK E lamented that he b4I not been p.a.., sent to state his Een ti wen t s with respea to thegene defence of the Country on the English Local Militia, He would now state his opinion of what "alight to be done with a view to this subjea, in a r,eneral manner, in.order that they may be consider (K.l previbus to the next Session. Buonapaite being employed in advancing his pciwer by more near and more certain means, de - sign of invading this r(;!lntry was suspended, in order to be resumed_ in a manner, and at a time, when it could be attempted with, greater chance of a successful result. He ac knowledged that our numerical fame_ was amply, sutlicient in extent, and in !arrangement as .nearly perKt as it . could be. He.saw nu .reason why the Training Art should not be adopted in Scotland as well as in li.:tigland. But ti approved' of the ex tension of the Local' Miiitiq to Scotland. He en tered'into a comparative statement of all the plans 4.l4lence, and urged the necessity of submitting to some rigprous system to enforce a training adequate to the emergency. The severity of the French ili:ary (ode tar exceeded that of ours ; and it was only by a rigorous system that proper energy and discipline could be established. He insisted on the • vigorous system of preparation pursued by Buona parte, and expressed his convidion, that naval, as well as military means of, invasiotr, v• uld be in a few wears in the power of, that determined enemy. He atherted to the situation, of Spain, and com mended the gallsntry and spirit displayed by the Spanish people. He also praised the spiiit of the Swedes ; but he did ,nnt think that much security could be looked for to this country from either of these qttatters. He stated the various escapes of the French fleets from their ports, notwithstanding the' vigi- Jance of our blockades, and from that he argued the possibility of effeelim . a .. .descent on the Briti s h Islands. Tim French, like the ancient Romans,: transposed the men of nations, and made every nitnon.the instrument cif the subjugation oranot her. Mr. 'Yorke also expatiated on' the effed 'of the prac.• Ike adopted by Btionaparte of- granting military fiefs to his Gen`rals, and contended -that,, by the intro-. ch i 9ion of that principle, in - one SUCCesgrui cain hero th'e' ctieEts of the Norman Conquest may be a second time realized. It Was n'Scessary, on all these considerationa, to . thave Sueli'a - Military' or ganization 'as , would be amply adequate to oqr sje fence and deliverance, without at all calculating on the Navy. The object, therefore, to he principally attended to was, how the wh o le b o dy o f th e peop l e could' be brought- had attion.if the occasion should arise. And that objed, .he thought, vas not yet provided fur. He was aware that much 1 - . ads been done sin the - sway of fortification on the eoris s ta. - 01 Kent and. SilSse% ; but nothing iu pcoportien, ie the vast auras voted for the ordnance service. He meant to propose a Secret Committee to inquire in to this expenditure generally. He thought there shotki be several lines. of posts and works between the coast . and the centre of England ; at every NM- Cessive chain of which a stand may be made, sup pihing us to be driven from that more advanced.— He supposed Plymouth and Portsmouth were in a pvrtett state of defence., But the Isle of Wight also should be in a state of petted security. - Without a perted facility 'of communication between the great naval arsenals and the fleet, the serviceA. of the Navy, could not be perfectly provided for: He Icareit that the,coasts - of Essex 'were not ,as well defended as those of Kent and . Susse?‘.• He thought the same degree of security ought to be extended to these coasts and the coasts of Scott iad. He tbiT t igt i t it e'Asential • that' the cormnunication between Great itcitain and Ireland should always be kept open, and therefore that all the pointy of intercourse on the ...Irish Channel should be fortified. The preservation nf, the capitalwas' next to be attended to. He had thought the fokification of London, unnecessary, Austria and Prussia were unbroken, and the weakness of Ilussia unproved. But. now Lis opinions s t vcre changed. with circumstances. Tie thought for tifications and facilities for.rnakini.?; a stand ought t o be established at several points between,London and the coast. Ile adverted to the plan formed under the administration of Lord Sitio-tomb, with the ap.: ptobation of Loral cathcart, for eretiang fortifications rout t :l London itself, where the population of the capif ai should be enabled to arrest the progress of the enemy, if he'should advance so far. But supposing London it , clf to bs reduced, he still : wished the country toware* the aources of the Severn, the Troll, and the _Mersey, where the hattieswonlsh "he to :he fought,. to be strengthestied. anti he recotii.., 9-wntled to particular attention the posts of 'Glint cest9r, 'Worcester, and Tewkesbury. No country could be defended with i ,ut fortresses , . It Ma by means of her fortresses that France was enat*d nut only to repel invasion, but to achiFve The length of tape ;bid 'Brannan. was rvt:iitivd by i.tt.inap'.ate, and his prohibition of the erectiots of t)t.tw fortrtoiss on pie Austrian kw:tiers', atter the peace of Presburgh, sufficiently stewed the sense of thdt great master of the art of war,On the . subjeet of firti:lC4il(M.' it was Wiling 10 the state Li t the forto fications, that of all - :.the filissian . provinces, Silesia alone was Ole to hilt ont..to the end of the war. It was owing to tie want of fortified places that Rub si:. was can pelted to make peace after the battle of Tilsit. Atter 'all iltese, examples, was the fate of this'eountry,to be so tar end.qtgered .as not to take piccaution4 so /....5,en631? A system of fortified Lilly ;sot - coincide with the jealoosy of the British nation with respe6t to its libertit:. But the Circut!istances of the games 11PASt vrcume their jea -1011,4;4, a s they aid the Jealousy of a standing army, 91iCe 5e 011110XiOUS. He reC0111,1114:00t'd ilea t! ideas to consideration, and hoped that no labour or ex pence yvpuld tie spared to lllStire the Sa!ety. ctf thy c.:ol.llltry.. 1 LORI CASTI,BitpAGIi agreed with his Gilt Hon. Fran4l, that the eirctitostatices ut the Country Here pot qt A ch 4 to Atintit,of h4,l\faj:.tsty' Minister; re p.);.:lg in a tall_ciotis Oat rather that th'cy b uch. .13 • w render 4oxessary every poibible precaution against any sudden danger with which , the country might be threatened. Still however" he was unwilling that the country shOuld be dissa tisfted, with what had been done, or that she etieni . y, should believe we were in a state of: greater weak ness than what we really were. However extea 7 sive the resources of a country, . it • was imp . ossible that any one should start from a system in sonic de gree abhorrent to fortified defence, to that descrip, tion of- 'defence which was only at present use'. in countries to which it had long been familiar. What ever the country now 'possessed of fortification,' bad been slowly •and recently 'acquired. His Right Hon, Friend knew how low even. the Ordnance Establishment stood before the present war, and it was a matter of surprise that it had so soon reached the standard at which it had now arrived ; a circum stance which sufficiently manifested the vigorous efforts that had been made. But comparatively high as the Ordnance Establishment now stood, still it was very inadequate suddenly togive . the country an extensive system of fortification, if such were de manded. :It could not be the work of a day ; it ought not-to be capriciously adopted. It must be the result of Tong / continued exertion ; it should pro ceed only upon a mature consideration of the neces sity of -the measure. If upon that mature consi deratiorithe Legislature should deem it expedient materially and immediately to increase the fortifica tions of the country, the Executive Government would be bdundto attend to that opinion. The utmost exertions had . been made at Chatham, at DoVer, and all the course of the Medway, to put the • covering stations in the most complete state of de fence, as well as along the whole coast. No part of the coast of France was by any means in the state of defence in which our coast from Portsmouth to the Thames had been put. The French batteries on their coast, had been tonstruated, not to prevent invasion, for to that they Were inadequate, but to defend their trade. As to the other part of our coast, measures had been taken to complete the de fence of it. When Lord Cluithatti left the Ord nance, the planswere completed for that undiertak . Mg. Without imputing any blame to the late Ad- Ministration, be should only state that those plans had oat been aged upon. During the present Set s* the necessary sums had been voted for the pur pose, and the plan would be immediately carried into execution. Ott the coast of Ireland, and particu larly at Cork and Bantry Bay, a great deal had been done to "increase the means of fortifteddefeaice, Lord Chatham had also taken into consideratioalhe internal fortified defence of Ireland, and on_ his re tiring from office, left in his bureau a plan for that purpose. That plan was now acting upon. With respeCt to fortifying the interior of this country, it Was a much larger qu6iion, and he was sure his Right lion. Friend would admit, that the' fortifica tion of the coast was qf More.pressing importance. He only trusted that his Right Hon, Friend would, not belit ve that, because no such idea had hitherto been prosecuted, that the country was at all to bp , considered in a defeneeess state. - With respect to the force to which the Bill before the House .innue diately applied, he had great. hopes that it might be - made conveniently useful, as a complete sulstitute for the volunteers, but he could 'nut think with his Right Holt. Ftieod, that it c. , uld ever be made equal to the regula - r This appealed to 4tini to be physically impu,sibie, nor did it appear to him to be at all advisable to angora di, regular it•ifitia into the regular artny, unless ai , o' ,ier e could be provid ed to supplyits place, wine:, he did nut conceive to be practicable. • Mr. , ,WiNDHAm did *not think that the Local IVII4 litia, with additton of Alfe fortifications recom mended by the Hight Hun. Gentle Man, would' be ciimmensttrate'to the datiur of the Contitly, the dectiis of which ; he %mild nut then enter. A greater question, however, than this of internal for, tification, or One of mime important tea. • .('V, tt wag 'impossible to Conceive. There was no pun it ui t which. the . opittioits were so opposite. It Was uot a local 'engineering question, but oce w hich e in - Eiraced in it the whole sysi en i of.our warfare.' Lie entered into a deleilee 91 the Traininglinl, and 'tk precated the sudden subversion of the military sys tem of one Administration by the Adir':iiistrttion that succeeded it. By the measures pursued by the Noble• Lord, be had 'reduced the security 'in an alarming degree. , He was apprehensive, that should . it be deemed . advisable to adopt a wore extetthive system ot . fortification, - the Noble Lord would mis take expencelor force. Alter a tew observations from Mr. FIETtIIERT, 1110 tendency of which we could not Collect, the Bill was read a third time, dnd passed. The CIiANOnLLOR of the EXCHEQUER gave* 116 , lice, that be would on Thursday next submit a MO don to, th 4 How, the object of which would be to To9nd a separate Rill upon the Resolution respecting Mr, Palmer's Claim. • IP answer to a question froth Mr. Whitbread, .we understood the Chancellor of the Exchequer to say, that he would also more the Appropriation Bill on . Mr. WINDHAM gave notice of a Motion fo r the • next . Session, probably' when the ,Mutiay Act should be before the Muse ; the objet of which would be the proteaionof soldiers who had entered fel. limit ed service, in consequence of the regulations of the year before last,. Hier proposition would be to pre-, vent' such soldiers .from consenting to extend their, service for life until the expiration of the engage nteot 'which they. had alr e ady c o nt ra ct e d, , FrIPENDI•kRV CURATES' The CHANCELLOR of. the EXCHEQUER having moved the third rtrading of the Stipendiary Curates' a tong discussion took 'place, in which all t! former arguments or and against the Bill were, again . repeated. The Bill was opposed by Mr. • Barham, Lord Milton, Mr. Tierney, Mr. Windham, Air. Dickenson, Dr. Lawrence, and Mr. Whitbread., The following Gentlemen strenuously supported the measure--Mr. D. Browne, Mr. Stephen, and Mr. M. ,Sutton. • A diviimit then took pl tee:— . . F‘ir the thud Keating, Ayes . 73 Agitinst it, Noes - . . . 'AO Miljr) rity . ------ 53 The Bill was read a third time: Whilst s; N o gers were excloded atiothet - di; ision took place oii a Clause by way of . rider, moved by Lord - Pox.. cnr.bv,ll :-- ' 'For the Clause - • - 7 t.gainat it - '' .. 6 ' ' Majority - — 54 The Bill was then passcd. The other Wen Dl' the My were then disposed of, and the House ad juilrntd at tialt . pabt tiz.t I Ait . R o— t Watcrt u Gottruiuegh, t Dublin, . t 'Waterford. PRICE OF STOCKS. THIs DAY Ai TIVELVE O'CLOCK. Consols -69 i I Red. Ann. - 68 thrinium THE SUN. ansm QUI' Die/AZ ITALSI:M AUDII/1.1" LONDON, TUESDAY, JUNE 21, 1808. ' We have received this morning the following Letter from Cork : " A number Transports arrived at Cove yester day, to receive the Troops forming the Expedition, and their embarkation will,cotnmenca immediately. The 2d Battalion of the .7th Foot, or Royal Irish Fuzileers, an uncommonly fine Regiment, arrived in the Transports, and marched in here yesterday.— , - This day the 6th Battalion of the Moth Regiment and the 71st were to embark. T4l-morrow the sth and JBt 1) Regiments will embark; the latter arrived this day, The embarkation of the whole will be completed on the 17th inst. , " Sever's' of the homeward-Pound West India Fleet have arrived in this I arbout . ; and a part of the Fleet have pissed to the East ward destined for England." His Majesty's Ship Belle 11 0 :41c. ith the . Fleet under convoy fret - 1i the, Mediterranean, sailed from Portland Roads yesterday. • YESTERDAY Madrid Gazeiccs to the 20th uit. reached Town, but they gives very little informa tion respeCting the stcte of ipain. They contain, • hoWever, the formal bocldation of CHARLES IV. by which he abdicates \,ho; Throne of Spain, and also the renunciation by the Prince Of ASTURIAS, and the Infants C'ekat..o3 and ANTONIO, of their claims to the euccession. The latter documents at).- peared in THE Suit of the 2d, iusthot ; the former will be found in aistibsequent column. No further intelligence has reached Town from Cadiz(rallan opinion seems to prevail, that, in conseiiienee of the failure of the Negotiation with . the Governor of Cadiz, General . SPECEIt had thought proper to return .with the Troops to Gib raltar. When the' last official accounts left the Fleet, 'General SPENCER certainly had not returned to Gibraltar,: we shall, however, not be' surprised to hear that he had adopted that mealure, beause, In t he event of the PeOple of. Cadiz wishing to avail themselves of British assistance (which there is strong reason to think they will do when they are acquainted with wiiitlias passed in the Norlhern Provinces), he could return to Cadiz in three or f lt is said 'that the Governor-General of Andalusia has acknowledged 'the authority of General MU RAT, and has circulated his Proclanaa lions ; and hence it is inferred that the whole Pro , - vinee of Andalusia is determined to submit to 800- NAPARTE. We must, however, again remind our Ileaders, that when these tiansaaions took place in that Province, the • Governor-General and the Inha biiants were totally unacquainted witli the determi nation ".of their Countrymen in. the North; and though they might nut think it prudent to oppose themselves singly to' the power of litioNAP,ukTs, it by no means follows that they would not join their Countrymen, if they found the spirit of resistance general. In the mean time, the Government of this Country is taking the most effedual means to give assistance o the Patriots of Spain. Above 40,000 pikes, and 5000 stand' of arms, were shippe - ; ‘t, Friday from Plymou i th, besides an immense ;°I:M -tity of ammunition. A • very considerable d_etacli ment of Artillery hav6 received orders to embark at Portsmouth. • ANtoNo all the absurd charges which the Opposi tion Writers bring against Mittisteri, one of the most extraordinary is contained in a Paper of this day. The Writercomplains " that all the real business of the Staters postponed to that seasonof . the year when the benches are comparatively deserted, and when the independent Country. Gentlemen, in particular, are almostto a man withdra * wn from attendance." Now, granting . that the real business of the State %vett, indeed, postponed, we should be glad to know where the fault flies, except in the Patrons of those Writers, who, finding they could 'not re fute The arguments of Ministers, have.endea vowed to destroy their constitutions,. by _such pro . ceedings 4s are of no use in the world, and only cal-' ctilated to prevent the operations of Government from being carried on with 'One aelivity and vi-', goor.. But we haye.the happiness of being able to ;Lisure the Public, that notwithstanding all those fruitless and vexatious proceedings, „Ministry harp not rellxed from their duty, but have adopted mea .., sure 4 of the inmost importance to their Country, in 'spite of all the obtacleS thespirit of Parry has ztturved tO tlie;r vtoy. 4 the iudern dent country Gentlemen have indeed weArial out by these party measure's, wbere is the wonder Trey have listened till. their patience and their Mrength are wholly exhauited, and 4 they retire it ii because they see no end to such a wa r ite of tirye,aud such an interruption of public . business, and because thl knew that' they cap safely entrust the concerns of the State to the men tO:whorn his Majesty has submitted them, and who, by their zeal, ability, and perbe verance, are likely ,to defeat the malice of our Ene my, and maintain the national interest and honour. Sunday evening their MAJESTIE4 and PR tcsiirss walked on Windsor Terrace, accoknpauied by FArl AYLESFORD, the Marquis of BATH'S. daughter; La lies C A IZOLINA WA LDEGRAVE, BULIC.RLEY, alld CUMBERLAND ; Count MUNSTER, and Colonel DES' BROW. A very genteel company of both sexes crowded the Terrace, whilst the bands of the poyal Horse Guards (Blue) with their silver drums, and the tafford Militia, played several martial and other pieces till nine o'clock. Yesterday morning his MAJESTY, Princesse s L :" GL' TA, SOPHIA, and AMELIA, accompanied by, idj(l7 ALBINA CUMB:::RLAND, COLIIA.MUNSTBR; Generals FITZROY, GARTH, Hon. Mr. VILLIF.RS, and Cel eeei TAYLOR, rode in Windsor Great Park, and returned at twelve o'clock to the Palace, On Sunday afternoon, at three o'clock, the F rill ' cess of WALes arrived at Kensington Palace) e tended by two Ladies. Her Royal Highness, atter viewing the alterations and improvements inakiag fur her reception, walked in the private and plibl iu gardens, and appeared much amused at the mac* rolls company. The Duke of YORK dined with the LORD I\TA" / yesterday. • His Bois' Highness left town this inure ing, for Oatlands, for the purpose of atteediog As' cot Heath Rims.. Lard MULGRAV2 will entertain a grand party to dinner on Monday next, Mins' house in the . (1. tuiralty. The . Portuguese Nuncio is to set put at tile eol of the present week fur the Brazils. 'The Sfore` Sloop is under orderii to carry his Reverence to ni ° de Janeiro. Gei,eral Domotieree has certainly, offered to take the command of the Patriotic Army of Spain. tter lr fO l t e h r e ia lietr%l7 i h h l a're7cegia, Leta inneslteitii:'ilio t n d t i ° ° ; the Sons of the Clergy, and a number of the' Nobi‘ lity and Gentry. . Sectworta FSra.—.-Yesterday the Countess e i DARTMOUTH gave a grand Dejeune, at his Lord ship's house on Blackheath. At about half slier twelve o'clock t he-Duchess of BauNSW JCR and 'the Princess of WALits were handed from their earriagef. by. the Earl of DAaTmotrrit, kilo the dining r 00 , 1 .11, K here about t went y-m . O p e jo " o f h e first tin lion sat thwu to breakfast. There were soveol marquees in the garden tor the reception of th e 1% merous and fashionable party th.tt tioated r" '. l elegant . Fete. The Officers of the Militia were invited, their Band plifyed on e y ' during the greater part of . the. day, and the Gl'en3" diers atied as- a goard'or honour round the prei nio in incid to tae' thitinguishericenap aey...aoa t° prevent the candille frore . tearing down the pa lins ' to get a close view of the company , which rheY otherwise would haVe (lane. Tile guests were of the most distinguished rank ; they were supposed t° to amount to nearly 1000, and they conti nued flock in from twelve at noon to five n'dock tho aftereoon. We't Lumen -‘ The following articles appeared in a Dutch NI T ' of the 10th instant - " A - camp is to be 'formed near Berlin of 40°a Vrench Troops. Vaiiour ( reasons are assigned. - French say, to ease the inhabitants.) i tt " A:National Guard is about to be orgoiie d . . the Austrian Dominions, similar to that adolit..--' 1411 ,,, , France. A Fortress 'of the first class is. to be ID!". i - • in Hungary. '. . • 111 I * of The FrenchFrench Minister for the Colonies lifts se % Ia message to the Board of Commerce at Bnurde 311 ; ! ordering that all Vessels bound to the Co! wile, illus take on board from '3O to 50 Soldiers. ac cordiPg o ° , the site of the Vessel; until to 0 0 0 men sivil ba, been in this manner conveyed to the Wostini''':.o' The Spanish Guar h a s received orders will' the army ot BRIINADOTTZ in I-lol,tein, and -11 ' 1 ' 16e' , tan its inar:4l." . . It is strongly reported at Amsterdam , that M" ' trig and Russia are about to enter into a very" clOO alltahee. 'l O ! . Extra& of a Letter rec e ived on Thursday tot ' ' Glasgow, from i respect a ble 'Merchant in GOfien' burg: h: OTTENIWROR: JUNE 6, .1808.---04 Pal° G army in Finland dues wonder'. The Itussiani i''',, e proi?isiiins, and they are in full 'retr at. our ' 4 l l t. • beendefeated in four engagements. We have la._,l` e "; .. they n tie N y o v : i i4 l iay tit l l i d e e s r i t n .,k ac , ,i i v l e o - i i i i i t i p ni res t e i t i l i t a great, many pieces at caution, eol,onig, and all ell under General Mooas, go there to.ca-operate 01111 them. Meantime the Norwegians are d`"„Y! beaten as often as -they return to shack o.lr reef On the eV!) May, 8000 Norwegians vale t ''''' t -,; with the loss of /heir artillery, by .Colonel 13801-: STEIO,4 with only his own- re4itnent, 1000 sto i ; In . Qiand and Gal bland; all the --11ussiatissate to'. prisoners. We are now raising 60,000 nev. , tro o 7 l SQ that we are perfeCtly tranquil. It is said t hlat d Colonel Ijiattrirso took the command at Swelinorsl; and defends the, place with much bravery. lif it t not say what credit is due to this aciount, but 11 ;th'ittliigiiigthig)tit:tg•c. el!. is true, we have lost very little as yet by the cats pato. .. earti A Duel was intended to h av e taken piece, .0 . yesterday morning, on Clapham Common , he lwef , t WO, Gentlemen %OA) arc 'junior partne rs in rell'eei .. able Mercantile Houses in the City, owing tblica dispute that originated on Saturday last at 3 P u t bd dinner. But intimation of-their intentions, in 0 interim, .came to the knowledge of one of the i i rn ic y..• Connections, who, in cnnse • - d'spatcheul). ' quence, i d att er Pet persons to' the place of meeting; 'an , .r thel Tvg,ittPg till the arrival of the parties, they' by . : iptcrprence. prevented the tneetingtaking Place..o Tie Spanish Gentleman who arr. ed in the Fe St .a'r ,14, Frigate, left lOWA 14s1 night, to emba e mbarkP ) r. v ,./ . The gentlemen of the Sp •m i sli ciao are "" g' 00 dinner irl a ttw d3ya tt) Count ,AlAVEltos,t, at 1,9u,d0n lives..