The Sun. — London, England, 1838-09-19 00:00:00

THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 1838 44.—C an t h e agr i cu ltural A.—Can the thi:f conten d Interest of England contend with Divine Pro:idence, with 'Divine Providence, which which assigned to a merchant , 'signs to cou n t r i es ne arer the or b an k er so muc h grea,"er ft:ireen earlier, more power- powers o f ma ki ng mon ey, and and more constant sum rner's sun, and which allots a gave to hint such a prodigio us snore substantial and expensive appetite ? But is all this a diet to the inhabitants of a reason why the thief is to be colder climate ?—ld. allowed to steal? He will perhaps say, " I must live ;" to which the answer must. 6 , as was made by the Frenchman in like circumstances, " Sir, I do not at all see the necessity." 45 . —Can the farmer, laden A.—lf the farmer is with taxation, compete with taxed, so are ,other people iukkintinental tenantry, called too. Lay a tax on home _Peen, notwithstanding, by the zeonnomists, not only to main- grown corn, and see what the poor, but to surrender etlxrceusfietclttethwaitll thos ebe protecting laws whereby poi.nt of tie Is enabled to bear his bur- are taxed. On th e (l ees, that the lower classes maintaining mfi'anirductr; tu i t r e i r n s niistake, f fltY purchase che bread, must be some great the poor', thee 'while the means for buying the It was understood th .... eco staff of life is withdrawn, nornists had just advised through the ruin of the agri- " throwing the poor moon eultural i nterest, already taxed their own resources." 'The for th e benefit of the poor of rl4 th eeople ?—./d. poor deserve their pove , p if they do not throw some body else " upon their owal resources. A 4 —Cheap bread must be A.—Try all these, by sup 'ear bread when there is no posing they were adduced, m oney in the p oc k e t to pur- ntutaiis nintandis, in support chase it. The destruction of of a tax on home-grown corn. the farmer involves the desti- Why should not they do just tutio n of the labourers, who well ? must fall back for their rates as w cat the manufacturing and com- Thereial interests. The distress of the landowners and farmers would entail a se/ere panic on the home-market. Thousands of s mall traders would be turned out of doors, through the destitution o 7 their country customers. Meanwhile a clamp -113113 body o f l a b ourers would appeal to the merc hants for employ ment. Di sconten t wo uld rise to its highest p itch ; and the political economists would run no small risk of being saerifi e d to the vengeance of an injured and cajoled po pulace. —ld. 47 —Foreigners alone A.—An ex traordinar y ‘,_!culd profitby the repeal of the w ay of causing the foreigne r aCorn-laws acquiring wealth t our expense to establish to establish manufactu res ; Ma nufactures.—ld. to furnish them ourselves. But suppose he did establish manufactures ; it is only what he is doing now. Let us have the chance of trying, Whether the foreigner may not be wiser. 48 . —The words of our A.—ls it possible the Great M ars h al will not fall to Great. M ars h a l ever said t he ground :-...." No point is anything so simple ? Sup a came to be dependent o certain as thi s , if England p os e they did to the utmost ever ble extent, w here I upon the countr i es border n• -conceive n ' should we be then, but where on the B a l t i c for its food that we are now ? An d if they th e E mperor of Russia, ' and the Kin g o f Prussia, the y did not lay such a ta x as to had d one before, would as levs stop transmission —as they tax on that food, on its bring to a certainty would not — embarked for transmission to then we should have the this country."—ld. benefit of the difference. We want to have what foreigners will offer us ; and not to be told of what they will not. All foreign trade should he stopped on the same principle ; " Do not have what you wont, lest foreigners should have raised a tax out of it." (TO BE CONTINURD.) Very ___ ---- favourable accounts were received in Gros r-squa re of the Earl of Derby. His Lordship is at length eonvales cent. , ----•-• r rince Doria will lead to the altar, at itCrue, Lady Mary Talbot, at t h e commen c e ment of the Carnival, 7hich will follow the Holy Week. lt • is rumoured that the husband of the late distin- Rutshed singer, Madame Malibran, is about to be united toiler Madlle. Garcia, whose vocal powers bid fair to rival those of the late lamented favourite. DONCASTER, MONDAY NIGHT. 'I he same objection to a lengthy account which we had oc casion to point GM •in the Epsom week presents itself here. We have travelled over the ground year after year till most of our readers must know all its striking features. There is only this difference to remark between Doncaster as it is, and Don caster as it was some twenty years ago :—We miss that mag nificent and truly English display of equipages which in the " good old times," were wont to gladden the hearts, and gra. tify the natural pride of those who witnessed it. Another change, perhaps, ought not to pass unnoticed—the St. Leger, once so absorbing an event in all the sporting districts, has greatly diminished in importance ; many of the old school have " closed their accounts," while those still " extant" have had their attention divided amongst a variety of new betting races that have sprung up at Goodwood, Liverpool, &c. Simply observing, therefore, by way of general introduction, that Doncaster, although still, and deservedly, highly attrac tive, has, like other places, suffered from the change of times and people, we shall confine our future notices to the business of the week. Since cur last dispatch there have been many fresh arrivals, and, judging from the subscription to the betting-rooms, the meeting, in the important item of ;company, is likely to keep pace with last year; many houses, however, have the ominous blue-bordered cards in their windows, and as the weather has suddenly become gloomy, the prices, like the glass, are dropping. The Course this afternoon was well attended, but not so numerously as we have seen it when the races have been con tested by horses of first-rate character, which, taking them as a lot, was far from being the case to-day. The Grand Stand notwithstanding was quite fulL'assuredly there was no percep tible falling off there. Besides others, there were present Prince Esterhazy and his son Prince Nicholas, Duke and Du chess of Cleveland, Marquis of Westminster, Lords Chester field, Wilton, Jocelyn, W. Paulett, Rosslyn, G. Bentinck, and Castlereagh ; Sir D. Baird, Sir J. L. Kaye, Sir T. Sykes, Hon. J. Macdonald, Hon. G. and Mrs. Anson, Hon. Colonel Westenra, Colonel Shubrick, Colonel Copeland and Colonel Cradock ; Captains White, Gardner, Hunter, Smith, Ives, Freestan and Dunlieve ; Messrs. C. Wilson (father of the turf, and now we are happy to state in excellent health), Thornhill, Payne, Portman, Crommelin, J. Stanley, 11. Aston, Bowes, M. I'., Somers, M.P., Phillipson, Worrell, Hawker, Foljambe, F. Charlton, Clive, Hungerford, Vansittart, S. Fox, G. Fox, Dolphin, F. Craven, &c. The following is a return of the sport : The FitzwilliamStakes of 10 sovs. each, with 30 added by the Corporation ; three yrs old, 7st. 51b ; four yrs, Bst. 51b ; five yrs, Bst. 121 b ; six yrs and aged, 9st. and a half. 5 Subs. Mr. Orde's b. in. Bee's-wing, 5 yrs Cartwright 1 Colonel Peel's b. c. Mr. Waggs, 5 yrs Mr. Heseltine's br. c. Slas hin g Harr y , 4 y rs 3 Mr. Osbaldeston's br. c. Allerston, 3 yrs 7 to 4 on Bee's-wing, 5 to 2 agst Slashing Harry (taken), and 7to 1 agst Mr. Waggs. Bee's-wing came out in her old form, made all the running at a steady pace, and won in a canter by a length and a half. Mr. Waggs laid next her throughout. The Champagne Stakes of 50 soya. each, h. ft. ; for two-yr-old colts, Bst. 51b ; and fillies, Bst. 31b. The winner to give six dozen if Champagne to the Doncaster Racing Club. Red House, in. 22 Subs. Duke of Cleveland's b. f Eliza Lye 1 Lord Eglinten's ch. e. Zoroaster Darlin 2 The following were not placed b y the Jud g e :—Hon. T. 0. Powlett's b. c. by Langar, out of Miss Fanny's dam; Mr. Att wood's b. f. Armella, by Physician ; Mr. Bell's b. f. La Sage Femme, by Physician, or Gainsborough ; Mr. Osbaldeston's br. f. Alexandrina, by the Saddler ; Marquis of 'Wertminster's br. c. by The Saddler, out of Flighty ; and Mr. S. L. Fox's br. c. Item, by Waverley. Betting-5 to 4 agst Flighty (taken), 4to 1 agst Alexandrina, sto 1 asst Zoroaster, and sto 1 agst Amelia. A little bet was laid agst Eliza, at 5 to 1, but she was not regularly in the betting. After two false starts the Flighty eolt went away with the lead, followed by Eliza, the others lying well up , wi th the exception of the Langar colt and Armella, who lost a good deal of ground at starting, and never recovered it. After passing the dis tance Zoreaster headed Flighty, and was immediately after chal lenged by Eliza, who was in front at the Grand Stand ; she kept her advantage to the end, and after a splendid race won by half a -^k. Item and Flighty severally claim to have been " third," and Irina and La Sage Fem me were so level with them, and all Alexsa.- four so nea : the second, that we are quite unable to say which is ,h e ; s onour. entitled to •Plate of 100 guineas ; for three yrs old, 7st. 91b ; Her Majesty's _ five 91b ; six yrs and aged, 10st. Four miles. kaway, by Economist, 4 yrs Calloway 1 four yrs, 9st ; Cardinal Puff, 4 yrs A A r a . r g F u e i r s g o u f s s N o v n e ' s s Velocipede, out of Miss Fanny, 3 yrs Mr. Powlett's bl. c by 4 i:;t 1 e;"; br. e. Mr. V a nsittart's ch. c. Smollett, 3 yrs 2tol on Harkaway, and 4to I agst each of the others. The gelding made running f or the first two miles, Smollett lying second, Harkaway third , and the Cardinal last. Smol ett t on with the lead, the gelding following him d t ie o a the distance Cin thedi seconffd d way. arnal Pu nroou:de,ndwelaievroeulrieed, at toss welloa!s Hasarkawalley, s ar S k m a :1 2. 1 e y t,t who, w ithout extending him self, defeated him in an instant, and ran in by himself. 4 miles. T Slibs• he Four-year-old Produce Stakes of 100 sovs. each, h. ft. Two by 8att1ed0re............ ev er. Sir R. Bulkeley's eh. c. Ban g alore, THE ST. LEGER , (TO-Z °3l P w). 2 to 1 agst Lord Chesterfield's Don Johri 9 to 4 agst Colonel Peel's lon 7 to 1 agst Mr. Parkins's Lanercost 8 to 1 agst Sir. Coombes's Cobham 12 to 1 agst Duke of Cleveland's Alzira 14 to 1 agst Mr. Thornhill's Saintfoin It is thought that these, with one of Scott's outsiders, The Hydra, and Sir C. Monek's filly (doubtful), will be all that will show ; but nothing definite is known. Robinson is en gaged to ride Cobham. GREA77 FOOT _RACE on SUNBURY COMMON. The long-expected match between Townshend and Fuller, for 100/. aside took place yesterday. Much difficulty had oc curred in bringing the men together. Townshend is well known by the cognomen of the " veteran." He has for many years been unvanquished, and for long distances was considered unequalled. Fuller is a young man, who defeated Byrne a few months since in a contest of forty miles on Wimbledon Common. The rivalry between the competitors yesterday almost amounted to enmity, and, although there was a great disparity in age, Townshend found a backer, who, relying upon his stamina and spirit, entertained sanguine hopes of his sue cow, There was very considerable betting, as it was known that this was a genuine match, and would be disputed as long as nattire could hold out. The friends of Fuller wished a forty-miles' distance as one best calculated for their man, but sixty miles %sere ultimately agreed upon as the distance , in fair toe and heel, walking, on Sunbury common, as presenting nearly a dead level. The match was arranged to be walked on a two-mile piece of ground, out and in. Both men had been for the last month in Imed training, the veteran at Nor wood, and his opponent at Putney. They arrived at Hampton on Monday evening, and at five yesterday morning were es taken by their backers to the scene of action. The mil chosen were from the 14th milestone, on the London side of the George, in the lane across the Common, to the stone three miles on this side of Staines. Umpires havotg been ap pointed and a referee chosen, at seven o'clock the men appeared. They presented a wonderful contrast when disencumbered of their loose coats. Townshend looked confident as ever, but it was evident he had more to expect from tact and game than from real training. Fuller, a fine young man, in the prime of life, with considerable length, would have been selected by any passer-by as the one best calculated for such a distance, and six to four were freely offered on him at starting. The lead-off was admirable ; Fuller went right away front his man, co mpleted his two mile out first, and finished his fourth three minutes and thirty-two seconds a-head of his opponent. All those acquainted with matters of this description declared that such speed could not last, and that it was more in favour of Townshend titan anything else. At the conclusion of the tws lfth mile Fuller had increased his advantage to nearly ten m ites, ails; bth appeared to be out of win 1. Townshend drank s ome ale ond ginger beer mixed, without making any drank stay, arta slid not appear to feel the least concern or annoyance at his adversary's gaining two or three minutes in every fourth mile. The ints.rest at the twentieth mile was very t consider- it able. Townshend h ad a pp eared very groggy, bu shook off, and kept up a q uiet, re g ular, lasting pace. Fuller walked lightly, appeared in high spirits, and when the twenty miles had been completed refreshed at the George, where he only rested seven minutes. In the seventh four miles Fuller was evidently distressed, and his adversary made way upon him, and gained upwards of three minutes and a half half the dis in the four miles. At one o'clock the men had concluded tance in the following order FULLER'S TIME. sus% SEC. The f i rst. four miles was perfor med in ........ . ...... 37 40 5 5 Second ditt0. .. ... . ..... 40 10 40 55 Third ditto ..................... Fourth ......... . 42 47 Fifthxth 43 26 Si Seventh 8 The two miles Darr; Total—SO miles In the sixth four mike the time occupied in refreshing included. TOWNSIIEND'S. TIME. mt.% SEC The first four miles was perform ed in 42 '23 Second ditto 44 10 Third ditto Fourth ditto Fifth ditto. Sixth ditto..... Seventh ditto The two miles, making half Total-30 miles sh. 39 7 The space of ground over which the men walked was at this time almost impassable from the frequent arrival of per sons in different vehicles from town and the adjacent parts of the country. Fuller came up to his thirty-second mile at forty minutes after twelve, and Townshend at three minutes past on es lively as a lark. 'rownshend started to complete his rty-sixt mile, but nature failed him. He complained severely of bodily illness, and resigned. Fuller went on comfortably, var ing from for t y -four to y forty-seven minutes in the execution of each four miles, nor did he throughout exhibit that indication of distress which might have been anticipated in his Herculean task. Ile came ~:-% to the mile-stone at five o'clock, with fifty two miles corn \ p l feted, a :7 l was accompanieri jo the last journey s by Byrne, at Wimbledon. He tc,)215, fifty minutes more whom he defeateal to make up fifty-six, am ,*.hen went away at If r allling speed ifor the final four miles, which ho ac —""iiillf Pa6iir MR. O'CONNELL AND MR. STE VEN SON. TO THE EDITOR OF THE MORNING CHRONICLE. SlR,—After my departure from London you published, at the instance of Mr. Stevenson, the American Ambassador, a species of almost one-sided correspondence which took place between us. I have been prevented by other more imp n-tant matters from sooner making a few observations upon that pub lication ; and now, as you gave it circulation, I think I may rely upon your c ourtesy t o insert my remarks. In the first place, there re had app; in the Examiner a report of a speech of mine at the great Birmingham meeting on the first•of August, which.contained the following paragraph : " I believe their very Ambassador here is a slave-breeder ; one of those beings who rear up slaves for the purpose of traffic. Is it possible that America would send h ere a man who traffics in blood, and who is a disgrace to human nature? I hope the assertion is untrue, but it is right to Apeak out." In the next place, Mr. Stevenson, on the 9th of August, wrote to me a letter, containing part of the above paragraph ; that is, he omitted the words which I have pat in italics, and which manifestly show that the report could not be more accu. rate, as these words made it involve a direct contradiction. And thus, having ascertained that the report could not be correct, he, with the gravity of a diplomatist, put to me the single question, viz., whether the report was correct or not? it being thus impossible that he should get any other reply to that question than that the report was not correct. Of course I answered Itis question accordingly, namely, that the report was not corroct ; but I referred expressly in my reply to another report of the speech in my possession, imagining that he would, upon suc h reference, call for the ac- curate version. 'Thus far it is quite clear that no apology had been required or made. lam no duellist, and should, therefore, if asked, have stated what 1 really did say, abiding by it only as far as it was true, and abandoning it in any particular in which it might appear that I was mistaken. But as I made Mr. Stevenson no apology, he determined on making one to himself, and accordingly he wrote a second letter, and in it presnmed that 1 had made a disavowal of of_ fensioe expressions. Now, this was either fancy or diplo macy, I care not which; but it was as gratuitous a presump tion upon his part, as the reality would have been unnecessar) upon mine. However, as my speech did contain an important passage respecting the horrible traffic, which it is asserted ( I hope most untruly) Mr. Stevenson participates in, I will state the paragraph as it was accurately reported in the Emancipation newspaper. Ido this the rather to afford Mr. Stevenson, who seems so anxious about offensive words, an opportunity of dis avowing, if he pleases, a thing most offensive in the sight of man and in the presence of God. The real paragraph is this : " It is asserted that their very Ambassador here is a slave breeder ; one of these beings who rear and breed up slaves merely for the purpose of traffic. Is it possible that America would send a man here who traffics in blood, and who, if he do, would be a disgrace to human nature ? I hope the assertion is untrue; but it is right to speak out." Such was the real passage in my speech. I despise duel ling, and mean nothing of what is called personality ; but I do hope that, as Mr. Stevenson has already rushed into print, he will give the report which I have shove alluded to a distinct contradiction. It is utterly impossible that anything should exist more horrible than the American slave breeding. The history of it is this:—The Americans abolished the foreign slave-trade earlier than England, but with this consolation—no small com fort to so money-loving a race as the slaveholders —that by such abolition they enhanced the price of the slaves then in America, by stopping the competition in the home market of the supply of newly im p orted slaves. Why, otherwise, was not the home trade stopped as well as the foreign? The reply is obvious. To supply the home slave - tr ade, an abominable, a most hideous, most criminal, and most revolting practice of breed ing negroes exclusively for sale has sprung up, and especially , we are told, in Virginia. There are breeding plantations for producing negroes, as there are with us breeding farms for producing calves and lambs. And as our call and lamb breeders calculate the number of males to the flock to the fe males, similar calculations are made by the traffickers in human flesh. One instance was mentioned to me of a human breeding farm in America which was supplied with twith men and twelve women. Why should I p ollute my page wa description of all that is immoral and infamous in such prac. tices? But only think of the wretched mothers whom nature compels to love their children—children torn from them for ever, just at the period that they could requite their mother's love 1 The wretched, wretched mother I Who can depict the mother's distraction, her madness ? 44 But their maternal feelings are," says a modern writer, "treated with as much contemptuous indifference as those of the cows and ewes whose calves and lambs arc sent to the English market." That it is which stains the character of the American slaveholder, and leaves the breeder of slaves the most detestable of human beings ; especially when that slave breeder is a Republican, boasting of freedom, slouting out for liberty, and declaring, as the charter of his liberal insti tutions, these as self-evident truths, " that all men are created equal—that they are endow ed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights—that amongst these rights are LIFE, LI BERTY, and the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. " My sole object in my speech at Birmingham, and my pre sent object is, to rouse the attention of England and of Europe to all that is cruel, criminal, and, in every sense of the word, infamous, in the system of negro slavery in North America. ktv delibernte conviction is, that until that system is abo iisbed, :0 American slaveholder ou g ht to be received on a footing of e(iu , . -, ! ;tv by any of the civilised inhabitants of Europe. I have the honou r to be. Sir, your obedient servant, DANIEL O'CONNELL. nane Abbey, Sept. 13, 1838. THE BATH POLITICAL DEMON STRATTON. (From the Morning Advertiser.) On Moirdey afternoon there was a Meeting of the Working Classes and of the Trades' Unions resident in the neighbour hood of the City of Beth, &c., to consider the People's Char ter, a Petition for its adoption by Per Lament. and the appoint ment of a delegate on behalf of the Bath district, to attend and watch, with other delegate', the reception of such petition in both Houses of Parliament. It was held on Come Down, a flee elevated place, nearly three miles out of Bath, but com mending m agnificent views of the whole country round, on to Wiltshire. The bussines were raised in the middle of a field, and it was computed that there were 15,000 persons on the ground. Most of the parties arrived in procession from Bath, from Bradford, &c., and they bore an immense number of banners, of various colours, sizes, and forms, and with devices appropriate, and strong inscriptions on most of them. Among the significant trophies borne to the ground were two 'emcee duly elevated, the foreign one being inscribed " .10.," the English loaf " 9d." This illustration of the working of the Corn-laws had loud applause. Soon after two o'clock the processions and trades were on the ground, and the hustings were soon crowded, chiefly by those who were to take part in, or who had arranged the meeting. Colonel Napier, who resides near Bath, was pre sent ; but Mr. Roebuck, whose presence placards had pro. mised, was not in attendance, some satisfactory reason, how ever, having been forwarded for his absence. Mr. Alderman CRISP (of Bath) having been unanimously called to the Chair, said they had not met for holiday pur poses; they had met on a subject that was highly important to the whole English people—to proclaim the rights of the people ; that the principles of justice should be carried out, principles urged in forwarding the Reform Bill of 1832 ; and that such Bill had not worked well, except for the few, it having produced increased misery for the many.—( Hear.) He assumed that they met to express their determination to have Radical Reform, and to be satisfied with nothing less ; that the industrious classes, as well as the property, should be duly represented. The " People's Charter" was presented for their consideration and adoption. Peel had heretofore said that " he did not know what it was that the people wanted." Perhaps not, but that Charter would tell him ; the people wanted Radical Reform.—(Cheers.) The people had to complain of misgovernment ; of the inequality of the laws ; of the meagre distribution of property and the burdens upon it ; arid that such results flowed from the people not having an equal right in the representation.—( Hear.) The evils re sulted from the representation, for the representation hitherto had legislated for a class, for class interests.—( Hear.) Hence had they to complain of the Corn-laws and other similar evils, which had produced that daily declining of their manufactur ing interests, now but too visible. And for what had there been that mischievous legislation? To uphold the landlords' interests, the high rates for their advantages, and to enable them to live in luxury out of the fruits of the toils of the labouring classes. The Reform Bill was not a remedy ; there fore the people must now find another remedy. —( Applause. ) Mr. BARTLETT moved the first resolution. They had as sembled to demand their rights. Hitherto their rulers had treated their demands with contempt. They had again met to point out the evils of which they complained, and the re medy for them : it was Radical Reform. He therefore with great satisfaction moved the first resolution, which was to the following effect :—" That we believe we have arrived at a crisis when our attention should be directed to the evils in the Government of the country, in order that some remedy may be devised so that legislation may be more in accordance with the rights and interests of the community, by making the Go vernment itself more sound in principle arid more just in prac tice. That we believe the source of the distress and misery which afflict the working classes may be traced to unequal re ; presentation, or in other words, to those laws which our rulers have enacted to perpetuate the present anomalous state of British society by choking up the principal sources of wealth, and by causing that wealth to flow into channels through which Government monopolies and every kind of political chicanery are engendered and upheld ; and that therefore we adopt some proper and efficient measures whereby all interests shall govern and obey by equal representation in strict conformity with the rights and sovereign will of the people," • Mr. MEALING seconded the resolution. Their oppressors mocked them with their ignorance and poverty, but in spite of such sophistry, they knew when they were hungry and naked—they knew when they were in want; they knew as well as the lords of the soil the value of the corn around them. The vultures, however, treated them as if the working men who assembled there had not souls—were not their equals ; it was as i.npudent slander. They would not longer endure the present system—they must have National Reform.—(Cheers.) Coloniel NAPIER then stepped forward, and was greeted with loud and hearty cheering. He said that he attended there to address the English workmen, at their own request and invitation ; and that if in complying with their desire be expressed any opinion not in unison with them, he hoped that they would put it down to that natural sincerity of temper which they knew to belong to him.—( Hear.) He approved of their cause or he would not be there ; but he would do nothing to violate his sincerity. He felt, however, that he was in some degree an intruder there. — ( Cries of " No, no.") He thou g ht so because he viewed that as a meeting of the working classes, convened fur the purpose of collecting their own opinions.--(Hear, hear, hear.) As a general observation, he must say that it was not in human nature that those who moved in what was termed the rank of gentlemen should he with them. Ther.3 might, be admitted, he many with them, from the abstract love of justice, and they would do much for them. But he would have them rely on themselves ; none but the oppressed could feel what oppression was, and so ade quately describe it.—( Hear.) They knew that they might to be free in their own land, 4114 he could net but believe, if they noted on that conviction, that they would work out the accomplishment of their rights. It might seem strange that, holding such opinione, he appeered there 1 but he at once declared that, having complied with their desire to attend there , he u nhesitatingly expressed his sympathy with thei r ca , i ,.,,,(boud cheers.) He was not an aecheed politician ; that oilnowq. I-le heel refused the representation of Bath, they knew • but he could add, what they did not know , t ha t as ' he h a d vellge!l larger and more important constituencies.— ( Hear.) under tlieee tdrpucustant s u s he trusted that, if they heard him , they would freely hear whatever he had to say on t he subjects before them. should he f, , ,0 on Loud cries of ~ Go on, go on.") It was, then, his fixed opinion that the Deo ,l e , s power ought to be constantly felt in the control of the 'affalrs of the nation ; so that King, Queen, Lords, Commons, Priests, 1-iishaP 3 4 Ar whatever ponstitytgd the fieeutiee or legislative antherities, should be eonstanty kept in con or, he declared, the people did not enjoy troul by the Peopte, therefore . , a the worlsing classes hid such freedom Atlat opinion , he joined in the led them to the declaration that they could only possess such power by Annual Parliaments, Universal Suffrage, and Vote by altos. 4nnual Perliamente were defensible, if on no other pri nciple they were gat that of t‘ slshorts reckeninge make long friends." Universal Suffrage was defensible as the right of nature and of the Constitution—the C wist i tei r era, it being ad mitted on all hands, declaring that none ought to be taxed without being directly or indirectly represented. Now, that was po t peaetleel. Therefore, that the deelged principle of the Constitution might be a reality and not a mockery, he considereeFthst they were justified in demanding the right of Universal Suffrage. And that reality arrain, if obtained, would be g moelserv, w ithout the Ballot.—(Cheers ) The Ballot might Fet ee eeet to the corruptislu, b u t that o l d ennnal elections would throw great stumbling-hlocks its its way.— ( Hear, hear.) He considered those three objects essential to good gove rnment —Annuals Parliaments, Universal Suffra g e, and Vote by Ballot.—( Loud cheers.) A Wpi t iciNg MAN.—What do you say to the payment Qf Members Colonel NAPIER knew nothing about that : he had no opi nion to e xpress on that subject. If they bad any intention to pull down the present form of Goverment, of " bringing America here," as some expressed it—he should not be against t h e m, but he should deem it his duty to join those who would resist such objects. The Government of Kings, Lords, and Commons, with a small exception, had lasted for 700 years, and he was for still preferring that form to exchanging it for that of a people who kept 2,000,000 of their fellow-beings in more degrading slavery than had ever existed in the world.— ( Hear, hear.) What I bring those Americans here to teach Englishmen freedom ! The thought was disgusting. — (Cheers ) But though he was for retaining te tnree powers of Kicg, Lords, and Common: ; ne was ready to declare that they must be responsible. They must not be irresponsible, far From it; they were made for the nation, not the ration fur them. The kingly power was to be ccn -0010 by the Lords; the Lords by the Commons; and taw Commons by the people—and those great and just ob jects would be achieved by Annual Parliaments, Universal Suffrage, and Vote by Ballot.—( Hear.) It was, therefore, wise, expedient, and patriotic to seek for tl.ose three things. And h e would hive them to achieve such objects by means as pens as their oaoae was holy and lest—by union and perse verance, not by violence ; by mind, by moral force, and not by the arm of the flesh. He would have them to demand all those things, and to take no less; and not to be deluded from the pursuit of them by any calls for a Republic.—( Hear.) It was the bottle of reason, let them be firm and they must sue card.,--( Hear. With respect to another part of the business before them—the " People's Charter'—he declared that as regarded its general principles, be ad hered to it.—( Loud cheers.) He did not approve of all its details, nor did he think they all had the approbation of its concoctors. As to t h e People's Petition, lie approved of it, except ono clause, the meaning of which was, he believed, purposely obscurely worded ; that which in effect demanded a return to ppaer money not based on gold.--(" Attwoad's plan.") They had hit on the right name ;it was the Atterood's. That he should resist as of pernicieue tendency to the people's interests ; and he, therefore, recommended them to strike cut that clause. As to the naming of a Delegate, that was so peculiarly their duty, th at l ie left its decision entirely with them.—( Cheers.) The first resolution was then unanimously adopted. Mr. S, BARTLETT moved the second resolution— . That we believe we shall not be fairly and honestly represented, inasmuch as legislation cannot be efficiently carried on until we hav e f o rced through the 'kora. of' Commons the five fundamental pzinciples of Radical Reform, namely—Uni versal Suffrage, Vote by Ballot, Annual Parliaments, no Property Qualification, and Pa) ment of Members ; and, therefore, we adopt the People's Charter, as drawn up by the London Working Men's Association, and et the seroe time pledge ourselves to use every effort to establish that Charter as tile law of the land." Mr. Pummel seconded it. Mr. Rowers supported the resolution, r declarillg that by fit. Paul the work we nt bravely on. the resolution was then adopted unanimously. Mr, Bowzi,t, proposed the third resolution—" That the petition submitted to our consideration by the Blimiegl.ae. Political Union expresses the sentiments and wishes of this meeting, and that in order to carry out the de nand which that petition expresses, agree to appoint a dclega'e to attend in general convention in London, to watch over t' le proceed ings connected with the presentation of the petition in both Houses of Parliament." Mr. TWITS seconded it. Mr. HENRY VINCENT, of London, strongly supported it. in a speech of considerable energy, and which was most fa vourably received by the meeting. He, for one, declared war, eternal war against all parties and persona who re•iistal or denied their rights—those five demands set forth by them of Annual Parliaments, Universal Suffrage, Vote by B Mot, No Qualification, and Payment of Members—those would long ago have been conceded but for the damning servility of the multitude. He called upon them to raise themselves from the ground, to stand erect, in the attitude of freemen, and to demand their rights from their insolent and ignorant foes. The , right to enjoy liberty and happiness di I not depend on Kings, Queens, Bishops, Priests, or Lords ; it depended on the people, who were the only source of sovereign and legitimate power.—(Hear, hear.) No, no It they were to he humbugged no longer. We would no longer submit to be governed by a set of nincompoops.—( Cheers and laughter.) But they were told that they were too ignorant to have votes. Ignorant Whose fault was that ?—( Hear, hi.) Had there not been the Church, richly endowed—expensive Ministers, and establishments and officers of all sorts, to take care of their bodies in this world, and their souls in the next? and were they still ignorant and besotted? But, in truth, those who so talked feared the knowledge of the working classes.—( Hear.) If there were proper laws, the labourers would be adequately protected against those who never laboured during their whole lives; and there would be no occasion for union pauper workhouses, and three devil kings to govern them.—( Cheers and laughter.) As to the present constituency, where were the proofs of their intel ligence? Had it been shown in the return of the two things that now represented, as it was called, Bath ?—( Cheers and laughter.) And what were the Members now returned by the constituencies generally ? Were they such bright speci mens of intellect as ought to satisfy the people? No; they were the very contrary; they were so many libels on humanity. —(Cheers and laughter.) The few that did or said any thing acted by their secretaries. Only think of having Mem bers who could not proceed without journeymen-brains. They had full reason to be tired of such law-makers, and the means by which they were called together. The people ought to try their skill in the making of laws, for the present hands had miserably failed.—(Cheers.) Hitherto the people had been kept down by a phantom, they had bowed down before empty idols ; before those who, instead of being their superiors were their inferiors in morals and intelligence. They had been kept down by those who were knaves. Lord John Russell was a knave ; Harry Brougham was a knave ; Peel was a knave ; the Duke of Wellington was a knave. Colette! Name, with greet earnestness, rushed to the front of the hustings, and most energetically exclaimed— I contrad* that—the Duke of Wellington is no knave. He fought for the country nobly, bravely, and successfully, and is no knave. Mr. VINCENT resumed.—l say that any man, be he a Wellington, a Russell, or a Napier who denies to me the right to vote, is a knare.—( Hear, hear.) He considered the present representation a combination to deprive the people of just and equal laws; and he called on the people to arouse, and put an end to such a state of things, and it could be done by moral force, if the people would only firmly exert themselves.—( Chdars.) [As Mr. Vincent spoke for about two hours, it is obvious that the above is only a sketch of his speech; but time will not permit of further detail.] Colonel NA?IER (after Mr. V. had concluded) again stepped forward. He said that he considered that Mr. Vincent had degraded himself, and the cause which he espoused, by the language he had used in applying the term "knave" to the Duke of Wellington.—( Applause, and " No, no.") Calling names did no good to any cause. They ought to remember the force of early prejudices and impressions ; and that a very honest man might be mistaken in politics. That he believed to be the Duke of Wellington's case ; but he was one of tilt greatest soldiers Europe had ever produced, Rua ntill4 . 440 t to have had the term "knave" epplieti tca " Ile was not spoken as a soldier, but as a politician.") Was truth so easily to be found, especially by those who had early and strong prejudices; and ought they to consider all who were against them to be knaves ? Ho would resist such per sons ; but he would not have them scold like women. If that meeting felt as men, it would respond to the sentime nt he had uttered. Mr. VINCENT again said that he hoped he should ever the courage to declare any man a "knave" who - -,ould deny to him and his fellow-workingmen the rie+' t o vote. That being his opinion, he hoped they w o c,-„ L ' ic t give three cheers for the causein which they there th being engaged.yworeproposition h c e e rwas * ) carrie promptlythree ro u nds (The ett' h The resolution was then p u t an d • • d unantmously. Mr. GAPPER moved, and Mr, WUITE seconded the fourth resolution, which was to the followi ng e ff ect :—" That a Com mittee of sit persons be publicly cho sen to act i n concert with the Committee of the Bath Working Men's Associatip n , i n the management Qf the subscription money which must b e ra i se d to defray the expenses of the delegates representing the people in convention ; and also to assist our Committee in the manage ment of the matters connected with this important affair."— carried - uttanirnouslf, Mr. VINCENT, after highly eulogising . the prudence of the proposed choice, moved (Mr. WRITE seconding the motion) " That Mr. Richard Mealing be elected as a fit and proper person to represent the people of Bath in the forthcoming convention."—Carried unanimously. Kiseocee moved and Mr. SAUNDERS, the barrister, seconded the sixth resolution, which was to the effect that this meeting, taking into consideration the attempt now making by portions of the public Press to divert the attention of the people from the CAUSE of all oppression to the Corn-laws, which are merely awe of measure alien receive any portion of our attention until the People's Charter becomes the law of the land. This resolution was also carried unanimously. Thanks having been voted to the Chairmen, and to the Bath Guardian, for the manner in which it advocated the people's cause, the business of' the meeting was declared to be con cluded, It then separated in the most al m er y manner, some of the Trades' Union Unions going away in procession, bearing their several banners, in the order in which they had come to the ground. Darkness was rapidly approaching the ' when parties uitted the !lei:). MR. ROEBUCK'S LETTEL The following letter was sent to Mr. Bolwell, the Secretary to the Bath WorLing Men's Association : " Christchurch, Sept. la. " Sir,—When I last wrote to you, I foresaw a ijossibility of my being unable to be in Bath on the 17th, and I am sorry to say that what I fo.mgavv has come to pass. Circum stances, over, which I have no control, have rendered it im possilli.z lot. me to go from my home at this moment. I am vexed at this, but I cannot help it. " I am, Sir, your obedient servant, "3. A. ROEBUCK. " Before the winter rbope to he in Bath. My presence at thi4 inoment 1 not very essential, the more especially ag you have so powerful a friend to the good cause as Colonel Napier near you. The really important part of your proceed ings will be the choice of your delegate, In which I sincerely hope that the people will manifest the very great care and discernment needed. Much will depend upon the conduct of the delegates, when they meet to act. While prudence and sagacity will very greatly forward the good work—violent, imprudent, ill-judged determinations will tend very materially to retard it A firm, prudent, well-judging man, sent from 134th, may do much good, and prevent much evil. Excuse these warnings—they are well intended, and will be found to be worthy of consideration. " J. A. R. " To Mr. Bolwell, ing Men's Association, Bath." Secretary, Work IRELAND. CORN-LAW FALLACIES, WITH T E ANSWERS. (Continued from The Sun of Monday. )- 37.—The depressed state of ANSWER.—What can de our foreign trade, and the ex- press our fora i•gn trade lower elusion of our flag from coasts o:an a prohibition upon im i.m.ome. morially open to our us. u nos enterprise, is to be di- what the people here rectly attrib u t e d to t h e absurd want portingto buy ? What use abandonment of the power to in talking of the exclusion redress insult, and defend of our flats, when we can the mercantile interests of not hinder our own Legis- Britain.—lfull Packet Aug. lature from forbidding its , 3, 1838 , appearance for the only pur - pose we care for—profitable • c ommerce ? What use in defending the mercantile interests, when they have not in telligence and union sufficient to defend themselves against such absurd tyranny as this ? 38 —That the Corn-laws A.—Give us for 20 years are " The cha r t er o f secur i ty a tax on h ome -grown corn, to all branches of industry, especiall y to the manufactur- for die sake of increasing the iinsg3s.interest."—ld. A ug . 31, q uantity purchased with our manufactures, and brough t by our ships from abroad, and we will demonstrat e that oust r this tax is " the charter of security to all branches of in ,, es , over-trading to the agricultural interest." From what uti.allger of over-tradin would that interest be r elieved ! 11° W Powerfully wou ld the agriculturists be struck with the cannexion between the benefit to the manufacturers, and to themselves I How unable to refuse acknowledging the vast improsement the increased wealth of the manufacturers roust make in the home market ! Can the agriculturists be sur e how long it shall be before this kind of le.r talionis shall be tried upon them ? 39 . —The diminution of ex- A.—Any reason but the ports i n 1_ 1 837, contrasted with f a ct, that we are prohibited 1836, amounting i s , to a sitoconneaderly- from trade by law. The re , is no use in allowing us to cable extent to be attributed to the shock whi c h commerce trade in anything but what sustained i n t h e United States;an wi ll 2; ay. There is an em but t h e i mminent d rto bargo on the merchants' which our mercantile suep re- counting-houses in Hull , in I n, a°3' is exposed, throucrh - the the words " Thou shalt not -insufficiency of our naval force trade in what, being brought l!'.0 protect a trade penetrating home, would sell with a pro wls° all parts of the world, fit ;" and then the blame is 8z,(1 the utter incompetence of to be laid on shocks in the Miaiste.rs to watch with states- United States, and want of manlike sagacity over the ope- expenditure on men-of-war. r ation of principles developed We want to be allowed to "y . the great men at the helm " penetrate," where nobody o..etmasff.airs its foreign countries, will stop us. Incompetent 17_,. Sept.s un a verted, and &c.— enough the Ministers may 4 '. 4 7, 1838. be ; but it was when they put one of themselves for ward to declare, that die prohibition of trade was essential to " the stability of the general institutions of the country." 40. The commerce of A.—The commerce of England is suspended with England is suspended with the whole coast of South the Continent of Europe ; A.mersca. A French blockade which is vastly worse. No la instituted to ruin British need of a French blockade ; commerce. Where is the legislators, of whom every glorious p ennon , o f Albion — one has sworn to a perso nal Where her hardy tars?—_'l• interest against us, hold us ;n blockade far sorer. Where i s the glorious pennon of 4 ‘;:jon—peshaps , they can tell at ;tie Admiralty. But Where her hardy tars—may be answerC*4 by saying they are in dock ..st home, by virtue of a prohibitiOP upon foreign trade. 41.—The alternation olf de- A.—As well tell a man pression and resuscitation in who is hanging, that the Al trade we believe to be periodi- t er _ -tions of depression and Cal ; and that the channels of ''''. • ---, in his choking our commorce are again work- resuscitate, - •t. at we ing clear of temporary ember- are periodical ; .... r xassments.—ld. confident the channels ..:11 his breathing are working clean of temporary embarrass 'events. When there is a visible rope round his neck—a pal pable cause, which all the time is dragging him to his destruction. 42.—But were it otheec' A.. —Why not all classes - wise, did imminent danger ex- be ruined as well, by the ist of our expulsion from the withdrawal of protection to markets o f f ore i gn countries, th,t. British manufacturer in 'thehoe he rui n o f a ll c l asses can on ly the shape of a tax cit! horne t accomplished by one mea tectionhteo t u li t gor e , British h al never f out, that lV ti Will r a men n e n y —ld. F(?afrrn:or: groini pccio,rn? is a perilous lessson when other anon learn to read. 43 . —Ever m n I has A.—Not one of them a ' resi ded abroady a wto . -is to ,d , knows what it reason why the ra r m . er should and l ave a perpetual sunshine ha mm er sky, during the rob his w o h lesonfe neigh- Lan; er months; to see the hour.. The farmer says he es t in Languedoc and cannot compete ; and the .., Pro vence, u ,boused by the middle manufacturer can. Why " 1 J ne ; to witness a labourerl • ten, i ,is the manufacturer cont ent to banquet on a piece (.1 . light spongy bread and a 'who can, to give way t o the farmer who cannot? Lunch of grapes ; to behold a tenantry paying sixpence an te n Supposin g the claims to be 4cre for rent, rates, and taxes. otherwise equa l, in what way ......id . does the ability to compete, throw the propriety of giving way upon the manufacturer ? But the secret looks out at last ; it is all tc. make rent, for those who were born to the profession of bLing owners of land. DONCASTER SI. LEGER,. .....--__ DONCASTER, TUESDAY. The following is tho result of the St. Leger : Lord Chesterfield's Don Jo hn 1 Colonel Peel's lon Mr. Parking's Lanercost 3 Seven Ltarted. DONCASTER RACES. noI 3tear';: 1 vi sl ''. „ In , trat e •; P e la s e n frr e6 : o 'eleve hi rt o- co o t; le ti Co 'ol is 001( dge for age to e e,) .ssi l ' cow go d leo- ! . ecoa ° l ' 3eive c , ait!°; aP - ,s. pers' 1 oi foo d .lor' Ts) Oro °,a, ioo' 18 01? b• ( t oo' .ice, nitti'"' fr og g' loP et In te fr i) " Lv is' t ot , tr ir' Co - For ic; f r o o ie. o p • IA 10 (6 1 01)11 /We , wad' ,oLlg q 33 ' iber titer Don c . v.,.r to o fr", v c ° th e A by rii e th e .pte p rice the P es t re , ' flee t 0 5 c11_ 4 i. ' apg r e ftle. C ; erro ati:orj es t'r4~ Fill IQl'' ‘lr• 011- the 0 (1 bilitY ° do' ' lic a bYirei f ►ro e l, 0 P_ . . n go mOo ylur r ioo.-.,, be Y tiO P 0 0 Cor REGISTRATION. MIDDLESEX. Messrs. COVENTRY and SITADWELL held courts yesterday, at the Sussex Arm s Tavern, Hammersmith, to revise tie lists of voters for the parishes of Fulham, Chiswick, atid Hammersmith. (Before Mr. COVENTRY. ) n the Fulham list, the name of John Goutel having been called, Mr. Davis said that the party claimed to vote in right of "leasehold houses," but notice of objection bail been served on one tenant only, the party himself resi3- ing at Norwich. He contended that every tenant in pos session must be served with notice, in order to make the notice valid. Mr. ADEY said that the intention of the Legislature was, that every person whose claim was objected to should have full notice of such objection ; and he contended that service upon one tenant was a sufficient notice within the meaning of the Act of Parliament. Mr. COVENTRY said this was a most important question. There were some decisions upon it in Mr. Delano's book, to which he wished to refer before giving his opinion. The claim of Lord Ranelagli, who was described as resid ing in Cork-street, was objected to on the ground of misde scription of residence, it being alleged that his Lordship had passed the two last years in Spain.---Claim disallowed. (Before Mr. SH•DWELL. George Clare was objected to by Mr. Holmes, on behalf of Mr. James Coppock. Mr. TURNER took an objection to the service of the notice of objection, on the ground that the signature of Mr. Coppock was not in the handwriting of that gentleman. Mr. HOLMES admitted that the signature of Mr. Coppock was not in that gentleman's handwriting, but he called a wit ness, Mr. Hugh Bernard, who stated that Mr. Coppock was out of town, that before Mr. Coppock left town he had in formed witness that be expected to receive a list of names from Hammersmith, to which he intended to object, and he authorised witness to object to them it his (Mr. Coppock's) name, which witness had accordingly done. Mr. SIIADWELL was of opinion that the notice wasn as ot vwere alid. The name of Mr. Clare wa s accordingly retained, the names of several other persons whose nitices were simi lady signed. The following is the.resn ULlt of this day's revision : FHAM. Over s:ers. Reformers. Tories. Objections... 0........... 14 ............ 19 Sustained ........... 0. CHISWICK. Objections 6............ 0... ......... a ............ 6 Sustained 6 0 HA NINIERSMITH. 0bjecti0n5............ 21.,..„ Sustained ............. 17......., 1.,,.., •,,, ,i 9 The Courts will be held to-morrow at Bedfont, ------- DREADFUL FIRE AND LOSS OF LIFE IN :. TENIIAM COURT-110AD.—At an early hour this morning a ver. distressine, occurre nce took place by fire in lace: which we deeply regret to stat e was attended with ) X sa certain c , thD of human life. As far as we have been able to fire was discovered about a quarter past four o'clo ck , T Tott on the premises of Mr. Holt , at No. 19, in the above pl iven on acen ham Court-road. Although the alarm was instar.tly g the discovery, it was for some time before the inmates were made aware of their imminent danger, and all escapud with tile exception of a female, wlv,se name could not bee got at, and who unfortunately fell a victim to the ra i n sui t, m t, which had by half past four completely envelopbed the building in question, Intelligence of the conflagrations oon reached the cars of the fire brigade at the Well-street Fire Establishment, and also those at King-street, Crown .stre. t, and Holborn. from whence engines directly started to th e spot; but such had been the fierceness of the flames that it was impossible to save any particle of those premises, and in consequence the firemen's directions were on the adjoining. It was not till six o'clock the ruins was made by the firemen. when the MI - taint that the fire was got under. shortly after an examination of placed in a shell and taken to the bone house of the unfortunate creature were found dreadfully burnt I they were o f the parish . With regard to the origin of the calamity no information could broke out on tae e4tensrve be obtained. A portion of the property destroyed is insured. On Sunday morning, soon after one o'clock, a fire to Messrs. Gale and Co., patent rope.manufaeturere, hovP:hlnet Slifid7 well. From the combustible nature of the stoelc premises belonging ge the pp : raises, and the great ascendancy the fire had 4ttainpd, it was some time Lefcre it could be subdued, and nOt OW an ire- mense quantity of valuable property on the premises was destroyed, besides work- , ,hops and storehouses. It is not i t ogAn in wh , flt manner the fire originated. TO THE PEOPLE OF I`ZELXND• LETTER II (FROM OUR OWN CORRESPONDENT.) DUBLIN, SEPT. 17.. —Slowly perhaps, Out surely never theless, the new agitation is proT:..-esing, six hundred members have been enrolled at rte Corn Exchange alone, and several of the metre;;;;iitan parishes have branch societies. The Sr:";atar may sneer and discolour facts, and the Courier may doubt and drivel, but all who know anything of Ireland are convinced that the warmest campaign of agitation in which she was ever engaged was less popular than the one now be fore her will finally be. Mr. O'Conn••11, out of his limited fortune, has presented a thousand pounds towards the erection of a convent-school in Cahcravern, in his own neighbourhood. This is a full twelfth of what he has been so heartily abused for receiving, given to promote education and morality. THOMAS MOORE.—The Theatre Royal was opened for one night, on Saturday, under the patronage of our national poet. To the disgrace of the Tory party, they carefully absented themselves; but the house was nevertheless fully and most fa shionably attended. The applause with which Mr. Moore was received was so enthusiastic that he was forced to acknow ledge it in a speech. • Last night, about eight o'clock, a fire was discovered in the Kildare-street Club-house. It originated in the library of that building by some accident which has not been accounted for. Considerable damage was done before the arrival of the engines, but shortly after they came into operation the fire was completely extinguiahed. The premises were insured. COMBINATION._The parties indicted for combination at Drogheda have made concessions to their emphayera, and been received back into their factory, with the exception of one or two of the leaders, against whom the law will be enforced. The town of Kingsoourt, in the county Cavan, was a few days ttgo greatly injured, several houses being completely washed away by a water-spout from the neighbouring moue. tain. Such an accident was unprecedented in the ecata%ry• BIRMINGHAM RiaLWAY.—By a lettLr from the Messrs. Johnstone, the news agents, which appears in the Eccning Mail of this day, the I. ish public will learn with so ne esti) nishment that the Birmingham Railway, instead of facili tating the intercourse between the two countries, will posi tively render it slower. The morning mail, which left late don for Holyhead at nine o'clock, taking the Merning Papeas., will not now leave till eleven ; and (which is the 07:ingest part of the business) daarinj %he additional two '..ours the Post office will tlp,t talo a letter or Paper mere tban if the mail had ktwied at the usual hour. Such is the ArrAngemont at pre sent, but it cannot surely be irmitl fi l lo wantinue• POOR LAWS. —Mr. 4 - k eley, cif. the starnp-office, has been apointc4 Secr•etarl 44 the' Commissioners of Poo r-la r . INir. (I'Llotkogu e of the jrish bar, Mr. Handcorse, of r-s wa(4ll sand MP. elements, (a brother of Lord Clements) have been appointed A s sist a nt Commissioners. The Rev • M • O'Malley is named as the fourth Comminioace4 but the ap rointment hp not let been ttwltit Darrynane Abbey, I Ith Sept. 1838. " Hereditary bondsmen, know ye not Who would be free, themselves must stril e the blow?" FELLOW-COUNTRYMEN !—How often bay.t I wished to-.see such a day as this, when Ireland might say to her s .ns—" Po litical freedom is in your power—you may be fr._e and yr u may lay down the basis of the permanent prosperity of your coun try of you have the virtue to insist upon it. If you deserve liberty it is within your reach." In the name of my country lad Tress the e words to yeu. I address them in no respondency ncr in any de-pair. I kno.v my countrymen well ; and although there be some traito's and some useless brethren amongst us, yet the people—the urn. versal, the honest, the persecuted--the ever faithful people a-e true to the heart's core, and now that they have the fu'l and im mediate alternative of either an equal participation of British rights, privileg,es, and constitutional liberty, or the ntreal of the odious Union, I feel a confidence founded on the profound knowledge I have of the head and heart of Ireland, that the great Irish nation will now show itself worthy of its high des tiny, and either obtain from others, or work out for itself, justice and freedom. The time is arrived for decision. We have done all that could be necessary to conciliate public opinion. Were we any longer to trust our rights and liberties to any others, however generous and high-minded, instead of asserting them for our selves, we should be laughed at as the most absurd and cola temptible of mankind. But this contemptible absurdity would become, in supreme folly, beyond the powers of any language to depict, if we were to abandon our cause to those who, however well-intentioned, do to themselves acknowledge that they have not the power to do us justice. Such is the case with the present Ministry. They have the inclination, the strong wish, the unaffected desire to do justice to Ireland ; but their enemies and ours are too strong for them ; and they can no more procure for us the legislative measte es absolutely necessary for the protection of our Hoer ties than they can stop the course of nature, or do any other Should you be asked to abandon your cause do the paternal protection of her Majesty's Ministers, and to continue your passive acquiescence in their efforts to serve you, ask in return why nothing has been done for Ireland in the last Session. We were confiding,—we were unagitating—we were supporting that very Ministry. Why have they done nothing practical for us ? It was not from wart of inclination or animated de sire. No; simply from want of ability.—from the superior strength of the adverse fraction, especially in the lieuse of Lords, and the absence of the means to 3efeat that faction. If a counsel at the bar were to say to a client, I am well disposed to serve geu, but I Irn totally unable. Therefore employ me. The client wolrid, of course, be laughed at as an idiot if he confided his cause to such a counsel. Men of Ireland, the time is come for you to cast off all that apathy or timidity could suggest, and to exert yourselves in your own cause. Seven millions of men never took their own cause into their own hands without being successful. Do I blame her Majesty's Ministers ? Do I reproach them? Do I mean to oppose them ? Certainly not. I feet gratitude and respect for them for their good intentions and their honest efforts to serve Ireland. I cannot attribute to them as a crime that our enemies are too powerful. Teat Ministry shall have my steady support—but, hereditary bondsmen ! we mnst work for ourselves. In my first letter I stated the principal and most prominent grievances under which Ireland suffers. I placed them under nine heads, containing three distinct classes. The first class in general, includes the partisan spirit of faction which still animates the old ascendancy, kept alive, as it is, by the revolting policy of the English Tories, and by oc casional encouragement even during the pre sent Adminis tration. The veond class relates to the administration of the law, and of what is called justice, and consists of four heads the judges —the sheriirs—the jurors —the magistrates. The third clt.si involves and includes the rights withheld fr,Au Onrier four kinds also—that is, by the continuance of OPruipt and exclusive corporations—by the continued exist ence of a state provision for a church not of the people—by the contemptuous res!rietedness of the electoral franchise, and by the gigantic) iniquity of refusing to give us out just and fair proportion of representati% es. I intend in this letter to take up the . ". Theutter /,7b topics undisposed of in my fi rs t l etter, a i d to s h o griev ances w"' ....ma Ige most strenuous exertions of the Irish of obtaining the redress of these n , -- efleniStiVeS• SL 'e 3 ndlY The mode in which such exertions can be rendered most effectual for the abolition of the grievances of which we complain. . Of the nine distinct grievances which I have specified in my first letter, there are are five which belong to the executive department, and four to the legislative. From the five first the continuance in office of a Ministry disposed to do justice to Ireland naturally tends to relieve us. The restoration to power of the Tories would aggravate all these mischiefs, and either perpetuate them, or sender a con clusive movement necessary in order to their termination. These are irresistible reasons for our giving all the support we can to the present Ministry, to the exclusion of their opponents. This will appear more clearly by considering what arc the two first of the three classes of grievances of which we com plain. The first is extensive, but consists only of one head —namely, the encouragement generally of the ascendancy party ; the second, under four heads, resolves itself, however, into one point—namely, the mal-administration of je A stiee. As to the first—the Irish Government of Lora Normanby has done something, perhaps I may say much., to put down the ascendancy faction—but much still remains behind; and as on the one hand Lord Normanby found all ;aces, judicial as well as ministerial, crowded with that pat:ty—so, on the other, his g ivernment has, on more than tr.,e occasion, augmented the number of those enemies of Ir:tand, by promoting them to, or directly countenancing ther e in, official situations. It would, indeed, be inconsiderate to blame too muds the present government for the mistakes—they were few—of this description, which they have made. Besides it is very pro bable that the far greater part of the wrong appointments wero dictated from London. But in any and in every case the re medy is to be found only in increased vigilance, coupled with energetic exertions, of a combined and continued nature on the part of the people. Unless the Irish people proclaim loudly their dissatisfaction at the continuance of any encouragement to the Orange faction, and call distinctly for a more manly and consistent course, there can be little prospect of any augmented zeal on the part of our governors. In short, there must be a pressure from without to enable Lord Normanby to cleanse the Augean stable of ascendancy. As to the second—mal-administration of justice—the most ;filleting evil any people can endure. What is there in Eng land to inspire us with hope ? Nothing. Nor is there, after all, enough in Ireland to inspire confidence. THE MAGIS• TRACY—AIas I alas! they have been but half revised; and every day a restoration or two makes that half what the Irish ehilaren call the smallest half. THE JUDGES—Oh !it is quite true that in this Lord Normanby has done well, and Richards and O'Loghlen, and take him for all in all, Perrin; and last, but not inferior to any in the British dominions, Chief Baron Woulfe, These, lat once admit, are pledges of what Lord Normanby and Lord Morpeth would do if they had the power. Yet, they do want the aid of public opinion, signified by po pular organization, to assist them in procuring the over-aged to retire, and the unhealthy to resign. But there are inferior judges—the assistant-barristers, who arc invested with political powers of the utmost importance. Upon their integrity and intelligence the elective franchise depends. The appointments to this office made by Lord Normanby bave, with few exceptions, been excellent. It was the habit of the Tories to appoint none but men of strong political bias. The consequence is, that such men rule the elective destiny in several counties. Take Sligo— for example—and without, in any degree imputing improper motives to the barrister, it happens that his judgment makes him require yet y strong evidence of qualification. He has accordingly rejected a multitude of claimants for registry. The appeal is to the assizes ; but the assizes—more than one assize—have been too short—mark that—to have the appeals heard, What is the consequence ? Why, this—that at pre sent a ccunty which ought to return two Liberals would to morrow return two Tories. This is a case in which, if public opinion in Ireland were strong enough to support Lord Nor manby, he would easily find a remcdy—and that strength can. be obtained only by means of popular organization. Then in this class are the sheriffs. In the appointment of sheriffs by Lord Normanby there is much to pi aise—yet, Low much is still wanting !—and, above all, has he not actually been persecuted by the House of Lords for daring to act with mpartiality in setting aside the improper nominations of the ludges? I will say little more of juries for the present than this, that ever there was a subject requiring the vigilant eye of pub. c opinion to be coneentred in order to controul enormities, it is this, Let me pause here in mournful meditation of the deplor able state of Ireland touching the administration of justice; and, on the heartless neglect, nay. even ridicule, with which the Radicals of England treat this all-important subject. If they had any geauine sympathy foi us they would show some respect for an administration which is daily diminishing this giant oppression. I now come to the third class of our grievances. Those grievances which can be reme . :iied only by legislative enact ments. They are, in fact, the great reason why I deem it absolutely necessary that agitation should re-commence and be more active and extensive than ever it was. These griev ances range themselves under four heads. First—The wamt of corporate reform. Second—The restricted nature of the elective franchise in Ireland, sad the consequent difficulties of a registration, and of sustaining the votes before a Tory Committee of the House of Commons. Third—The continuance of a state provision for a church which is not the church of the - dc ople. Fourth—The dcurivatir n of the I ish people of their fair number of represeot9f,res in proportion with either England or Seetland. The rci i ..ress of the se four grievances is the distinct object of the idu e o f m y political life. If they shall be redressed by t then, for the first time, will the U n i on t he unit , d Pa r iamen , be placed upon a just basis, and I am quite content to be bound by that statute. If they, or any of them, remain unredressed, then I devote the entire residue of my life to the Repeal of the Act of Union, and the restoration of a domestic legislature for Ire land. This restoration is in England, by the literary organs of the Whigs as well as of the Tories, called; separation" but it is no such thing—and they know it is not. Let them, therefore, call it " separation" as long as they please—l cagier not. Now, upon the nueisity of struggling for the redrus of a ll peso your grievances, many, and the most numerow, das,es ig bs a Cb C4 0 Olt 1, or ire to . area • . . in' . bp o9l is4l° I{, , a=dd,