The Sun. — London, England, 1838-06-12 00:00:00

UNIVERSITY INTELLIGENCE. I MURDER in the WATERLOO-ROAD. I ■ I " His liberal eye doth give to every one, " Thawing cold fear." PRIZEN RN. —SaNiost SOPHS.—Crowfoot and Paget. JUNIOR SOPHS.—Goodwin and Hue. FaEsnllA.N.—Gooell. CSAIBRIDGE, JVNE 9.—Porriox PRIZE. —On Tuesday lost, tho For. 14 n prize (for the beet translation of a passage from Shakspeare into Greek verse) was adjudged to Thomas Evans, of St..rohn's College. Subject—Henry V., Act 4, Chorus, beginning— " Now entertain conjecture for a time." And ending— The Chancellor's gold medal for the best English poem was on the same day adjudged to William Spicer Wood, of St. John's College.— Subject—Luther. At the congregation on Monday next, the following graces will be r.ffered to the senate:— To confer the degree of LL.D., by Royal Mandate, on Mr. King, President ef Queen's College. To grant 134 towards building a school-room at Barton. Tamil - COLLEGE EXAMINtTION.—The following 13 a list of the names in the first class of each year as determined at the late examina tion at Trinity College : SILNIOR Sores. — Eddis, Garratt, Gell, Guillebaud, Lawrence, Mait land, Marett, Mathison, Palmer, Pownall, and Whisla. Joxioa SoPn4.—Allan, Bienkison, Cockburn, R. Ellis, Marsh, Mate, Watt, and Wickes. FRESHMEN —Begbie, Bickerdicke, Braithwaite, B. Bridges, Bryan, Bullen, Bussell, Cope, E. Craufurd, Currey, Farish, Frere, Gilpin, F. Goulburn, Heathcote, Hope, H. C. Jones, Lonsdale, Martineau, Mas- Lew, Poynder, Preston, Richardson, 0. Robinson, F. Robinson, G. D. Smith, W. Smith, Stokes, Svrainson, Turnbull, Turner, and Ware. ST. Joules COLLEGE EXAMINATION.—The following list contains the Bret class in each year at St. John's College, arranged according to merit, as determined by the late examination : SENIOR SOPHS.—Frost, Cowie, Reyner, Cobson, Woolley, Bailey, Ackland, Cock!, Bainbridge, and Morrice. JUNIOR SOPHS.—Wood, Inchbald, Coombe, GriF.th, Ellis, Kirby, Williams, Calder, Rothery, Clifford, Lyon, Fiske, France, J. H. Browne, Pagan, S. L. Smith, Pitman, Spencer, Rhodes, Wilkinson, and Atlay. Fassnmax.—Riggott, Clubbe, Boultbee, Sangster, Scott, Beard, Tale, O'Flaherty, J. Smith, Gould, Ellicott, Parish, Bennett, Shears, Piggott, Braddy, Miller, Jeans, Stock, Watkin, Wrigley, Lovell, Charl ton, Boutfiower, and Rugeley. CHRIST'S COLLEGE.—The examinations at this College terminated as follows : FIRST CLASS—FIRsr YEAR.—Ridout, Ist prize ; Fitzgerald, 2d prize; Griffith,, Dean, Wheeler, Nice, Chamberlayne, and Harrison. SECOND YEAR.—Stevenson, Ist prize; Garvey, 2d prize. THIRD Ycale.—Tl,•ompson, Ist prize; Ball, 2d prize. GON MU , AND CAIUS COLLECT. MATHEMATICAL In Moral Philosophy—Wright obtained the first place. On Friday, the lat instant, Messrs. Dimmock, Falkner, Howion, Ick, and Layng, of Sidney, Sussex College, in this University, were admitted Scholars of that Society. The Rev. George Stevenson, M.A., Fellow of Trinity College, in this University, has bees presented to the rectory of Dickleburgh, Norfolk, vacant by the death of the Rev. Thomas Gilbeck. Patrons, the Master and Fellows of that Society. William Gurdon, 3i. A , barrister-at-law, of Downing College, has been admitted a Fellow of that Society, on the nomination of the Lord Chanc.ilor. Friday last, the Rev. Edmund Blake, B. A., has been instituted to the rectory of Oxwick, Norfolk, on the presentation of John aake, Esq., of Norwich. The Rev. John Watson, D.D., was recently instituted to the vicarage of Doddington, in the county of Northampton, vacant by the cession of the Rev. John Sargeaunt—on the presentation of the Crown. The Rev. Alfred Butler Clough, 8.D., was recently instituted to the rectory of Braunstein, in the county of Northampton, vacant by the death of Dr. Corbet Hue, on the presentation of the Principal Fellows and licholars of Jesus College, Oxford. On the 22cl ult., the Rev. Francis Henry White, 8.A., was instituted to the vicarage of Blakesley, in the county of Northampton, vacant by the death of the Rev. George Sivewright, on the presentation of John Wight Wight, Zig. of B!akesley Hall. On the 9.3 d tilt., the Rev. Thomas James, M.A., was instituted to the vicarage of Sibbertoft, in the county of Northampton, vacant by the re signation of the Rev. Lewis Francis Begot, on the presentation of the Lord Bishop of Otsfnti. M. ALEXAN D R E ' S ALBUAL—A private view took place on Saturday, at the saloon of the St. James's Theatre, of a very curious collection of drawings, forming what are cared Monsieur Alex? andre's Album. This gentleman is very well known to every body as a celebrated ventriloquist and as a very humourous comedian ; but he is not genera'ly known as a collector of works of art, a diameter in which he is deserving of a hich reputation. The collection which terms the " Album" contains many drawings intrinsically good, but it is chiefly remarkable as consisting ofa great number of drawings by artists and amateurs of almost every country of the known world, from the highly tultivated state of Italian design to the very primitive and not very highly cultivated productions of Van Diemen's Land. A drawing of a na tive of the last.mentioned place, by a native artist," is cer tainly sufficient to " astonish the natives" of London and Westminster. The name of the " associate" academician is Gobbie, or \\Vale, or Boggle, or some such euphonous dissyllable. There are many of the drawings of eminent individuals on the Continent, ;old many by Royal pencils, some of them very beautifully touched, and the whole affording what M. Alexandre intends them to afford--a correct notion of the general state of the art at the present moment in the various regions of the globe; or, as he himself expresses it, a " Cosmopolite" Album of art. There are, moreover, many eery rare autographs and letters from remarkable personages. A great number of the drawings which form the Album have been printed, and are in a process of publication in parts. The whole forms a curious collection of rarieties, end will repay a visit front the dileVapiti SHAKSPEARE AND HIS FRIENDS.—Both the de sign and execution of this work surpass our expectation. We could but regard as daring the attempt to give the great bard " of all times and ages" any other form than that vast and vogue one gathered from a study of the immortal monuments of his genius be has left behind him, or to piece in hie mouth any other language than that which he hierself so sweetly warbles forth "in his native wood notes wild." But, with a skill and facility that could only have been gained by a natural taste for, and a deep study of, his subject, the author has drawn Sliakspeare from that classic repose in which he has been so long left, and surrounding him by a group of " Friends" worthy of him and of the age, has woven together many a pleasant chapter, abounding with quaintly yet elo quently-expressed thoughts delicate sentiment, and sharp wit. Au ad mirable specimen of thee last is afflrded in a scene in which are brought together, in jovial companionship, at " The Mermaid," all this choice spirits of the rarest of all times in the literary history of the country, when Shakspeare and Ben Jonson pelted each other with the sharp mis siles of their wit, and the conflict was joined or witnessed by Beaumont, Fletcher, Donne, Raleigh, Selden, Carew, and other stars of the same brilliant tecstalatien.—Bigghton Herald. During the whole of Wednesday the notice of crowd of persons was attracted to a placard which had been printed and post t hn !it front of the Horse Guards, purporting to be a copy ofa letter sent t e Commissioners of the Board of Claims by a person named James liar d, declaring himself to be Duke of Lancaster, and lawful Sovereign ese and other realms. This curious document, which appeared to ex to so great a degree of interest, ran as follows :—" (Copy of a Lett delivered to the Board of Commissioners of Claims, Whitchall.)—M Lords,—l James Harland, now residing at No. 5, Albion-buildings, Bar tholomew-close, City of London, do claim to be your lawful Sovereign, i and by virtue of the several Acts of Parliament made and passed in th reigns of those Kings of England—viz., Henry 111., Edward 111., Henr IV., Edward IV., and Henry VII.; and by which Statutes, so made, pr vided, and declared, the Crown of England is inseparable from the Duch of Lancaster, and settling the same on those Kings and their right hei for ever. And whereas, by the grace of God, I claim to prove true right, and lawful heir of the above Kings of England, in witness whereof I hereunto set my hand and seal, this .Bth day of May', in the year of our Lord, ISI'i.—..I3TIIC9, Duke of Lancaster."--" My Lords, — Permit me seriously to impress on your memory that I ask for justice. I cried unto the Lord in nay trouble, and he graciously answered my peti tion. The Lord from Heaven informed me first in America, and aga'n at Liverpool, that I am the lawful Emperor of Germany, lawful King of England, lawful King of France, and lawful King of Portugal. (His tory will attest this.) This is the. Lord's doing, may He direct you to perform His will." Many vague and curious remarks were passed upon this strange production; but the general opinion prevalent among the spectators was the insanity of the author, who is the same individual Who a short time back placarded the streets of the metropolis with a declaration, attested by the Mayor of Liverpool, " That some solicitor, resident in London, had fraudulently abstracted from his possession the title and other deeds pertaining to certain property valued at a great amount." THZ QUEEN.—The following instance of her Ma jesty's generosity and kindness of heart is, we think, worthy of being re. corded :—For some time a decrepit old soldier, nearly SO years of age, whose person bears evident traces of his zeal in the cause of his country, has swept a crossing in Hyde Park, extending from the new opening by the Life Guardsman public-house, Knightsbridge, towards the dam over the Serpentine, at which post he has, by his cleanly appearance, on se. veral occasions attracted the attention of the Queen and her illustrious mother. On Monday last her Majesty, accompanied by her suite, while passing the Park on her way to Windsor, preparatory to the Eton Mon_ tern, seeing the aged veteran in his place, threw towards him from the carriage a piece of paper, which the old man immediately hobbled after, but being unable to stoop to pick it up, that was done by a bystander, who, on opening the paper, found its contents to be a sovereign. It is needless to say that he was delighted with his good fortune, and innne_ diately hastened home to the partner of his toils to communicate the good news. A casualty of a most distressing nature occurred at Warburton on Friday last, which has plunged the relatives and friends of a young and amiable lady into the deepest affliction. It appeared, on an inquest taken on Monday week, at Warburton, before Mr. John Hol lins, coroner, that the deceased, Miss Elizabeth Stringer, a young lady of IS years of age, and of good fortune, was with her guardian, Mr. Ridgway, of Manchester, travelling in a gig on the day named at War burton, en I is return from Lymm, where he intended to cross the River Mersey at the ferry there, and when within 40 yards of it the man on the opposite side moved his boat to convey over the horse and gig. When, however, he had reached half-way across the stream the horse became so frightened, that Mr. Ridgway jumped out of the gig and succeeded in turning the horse's head round to prevent his seeing the boat, but in. stantly the horse backed to the river, and the ground being on a rapid descent, Mr. Ridgway lost all power over the horse, and was unable to get the young lady out of the gig before all three were plunged into the river. The gig and the horse went down with the stream, and the young lady was seen floating for some distance until she sank. She was, however, taken out in about 12 minutes, and every means then resorted to, to restore suspended animation, but unhappily without the desired effect. MATRIMONIAL HAPPINESS.—On Monday Mr. Thomas Powell manfully brought his newly married bride before the magistrates at the Guildhall, and charged her with " absenting herself from home at those times she ought to be at home." The complainant stated his grievance at great length, complaining of his home being de. serted and his comforts neglected. The lady was ready to retaliate, but the worthy mayor and magistrates stepped her by dismissing the complaint, at the same time stating that, for their own sakes, they re gretted that there was not a law compelling wives to stay at home. Mr. and Mrs. Powell h ave b een eight weeks married. The fif,h day of their union was terminated by the lady receiving a sound drubbing, aed the husband being lacked up in the round house for the night. wife took out four warrants against her liege lurd for ill usage before the honeymcon was passed, and up to the present ch arge h a d b een e i ght ti m es a complainant against him. Mr. Powell offered his lady a separate maintenance, but she, " true to her birth-place, whether loved or spurned," declines! the offer, valiantly declaring that she would yet tame and make a good husband of him.—Hereford Herald. Yesterday morning, between two anti three o'clock, a desperate attempt at murder was committed by William Houle, resit!. lag in Peter.street, St. James's, on his wire, by stabb ng her with a knife under the left ear, with such violence that the blade percorateal the cheek. By the prompt interference ago= lodgers the infuri a ted man Was prevented f rom carry i ng hi s d ea dly intentions into effect. The to Charing-cross Hospital, where her wounds to, but she remains in a very d.angerous state. understand, are making nt Bou is Excellency, Marshal Snult, Duke of De'. irs. The French Government stea,ner, Me. ie Tower for several days to take his Excel irshal is expected to arrive with a superb state ,nue, to-morrow, at Boulogne, and embark for UNION-HALL.—(YESTERDAY.) (From our Second Edition of last night.) In consequence of the rumours which have been propagated this morning respecting the discovery of additional evidence as to the mysterious murder in the Waterloo-road, the whole of that neighbourhood has been all day in the greatest state of excitement ; and as it was said that Hubbard had been again arrested, and would be brought up at three o'clock at Union hall, the street in front of the office was crowded to excess long before that hour by people anxious to get a glimpse of the man who has attained such unfortunate celebrity. At three o'clock Hubbard was placed at the bar before Mr. JEREMY, and charged on suspicion of the murder of Eliza Grim wood. Inspector Field stated that he heard last evening that Hub bard was about to leave the house in the Waterloo-road, and was going to Berkeley-square. 'Witness watched him, and found that he went to Mile-End. Witness, therefore, relying on a letter which he had received, and which was placed in the magistrate's hands ;Mr. JEREMY—YOU must be aware that when a serious charge of this nature is brought before a magistrate, great caution is necessary that we may not be misled, and therefore I wish to ask you, as you have heard the whole of the facts, whether you believe the statements of this letter can be corro borated, and whether they are borne out by the evidence given upon the inquest, so as to warrant us in placing any reliance upon this anonymous letter ? Inspector Field—l have every reason to believe that the gentleman will come forward. Mr. JEREMY—Do you think the statements in this letter are correct, and that the writer will come forward to prove them ? Inspector Field.—l believe the information to be true, but as to saying be will come forward, that is more than I can undertake. The letter states that he will come forward, if a notice is published in the Papers. Mr. JEREMY.—Yes, but we cannot advertise the letter. It is impossible that we can advertise for witnesses to support a charge of this kind. Can you bring before us any other evi dence, besides this anonymous letter, which would raise a probable ground of suspicion against the prisoner? If you have reasonable ground for believing you can support the charge, that would Le a reason for my making further inquiry. Inspector Field.—Hubbard was taken into custody on that letter, and there is a person here who gave evidence at the inquest, and he will state some facts which corroborate the statements of the letter, and I should like your Worship to ex amine the brother of the deceased. Thomas Grimwood was accordingly examined, and produced a pair of gloves.—l took them off the table in the parlour; I thought they might have been left by some one, and I put them in my pocket. Inspector Field here observed that the gloves had never been mentioned in the evidence before the Coroner. Mr. JEREMY—That is a fact which induces me to place credit in th;s letter. That shows the intervention of a third person. Grimwood—l found them on the table in the paricur. They were found in the bed-room at the head of the bed by Mrs. Hubbard. Police Sergeant Pike was next sworn. Mr. JEREMY—You went into the room where the body of the deceased was lying the morning afterthe murder ? Price —Yes, Sir. Mr. JEREMY—Did you see the chamber utensil in the bed room of the deceased? Price—No, Sir ; it was found in the kitchen—it was empty. Mary Fisher was next examined..—Did not make the de ceased's bed. Mistress did so herself. Recollected having emptied the chamber-utensil the evening before the murder, and putting it on the wash-hand stand. Did not recollect seeing it the next morning. Price said it was in no part of the room. Mr. JEREMY then addressed the prisener—l don't think it right to ask you any question at this stage of the in quiry, because I don't know to what extent the let ter that has been put into the (IF - leer's hands is worthy of credit ; but when- the life of a fellow creature has been sacrificed, even though it may be a great injury to you, it will be my duty to remand you, in order that the matter may be thoroughly investigated. Hub!,.ard—Very well, Sir. Mr. JEREMY—But I say that charges of this nature ought not to be left to anonymous information—for I consider this letter anonymous although it hes a signature. A charge of this kind ought to be supported by evidence, and it is the duty of every man, whatever be his rank or property—whether he be the highest Noble or the humblest peasant, if he does know facts which would prove the guilt of any person in such a case, it is his bounden and sacred duty to come forward. If one-half of the statements contained in this letter can be proved, it would go most conclusively to fix the guilt upon some person or other. Hubbard was about to speak when _ _ Mr. JEREMY said, I have no objection to hsar any thing you may wish to say, but it must be with this caution—that you are aware that every word you utter will be taken no:ice of, and may be brought against you hereafer. Ilut,bard—Vcry well, Sir ; it is only a few words I have to say about my going away from the house last night. I was pressed by Mr. Grimwood to leave the house whilst the noise was going on, and he gave me some money to go down to my mother's, to stoo until he had sold the things, and settled the affairs. I took 11. 10s. from him, and he told me that it would last me a few days till such time as he had said the things, and then he would come down and see me. I was obliged to go round to Doughty street, to where my sister was, because she had the key. She was very ill in bed, and persuaded me to go down to Charles's house—that is the place where the Inspector found me. That was the reason of my leaving the house. I was persuaded to go away by Mr. Grirnwood, but I was very loth to go. Mr. Grimwood here made some observations, but the ma gistrate told him to mention to the serjeant any communica tion which he had to make. The prisoner was then remanded till Tuesday week. ELECTION COMMTTEES. YESTERDAY. (From our Second Edition of last night.) WOODSTOCK. James Giles examined by Mr. Aus - rts—The house of Prior consists of a small front shop, a room behind, a cellar, and three bed-rooms, including the attic. I value the pre mises at 91. 63. I consider it as a weekly tenancy, and made my valuation at 4s. per week, deducting the rates at I/. 2s. The yearly valuation would be about 21. less than the weekly. Cross-examined by Mr. ROGERS. —I made the valuation yesterday.—( Laughter. ) I had no instructions whatever, except to set a valuation on the house. I was sent by Mr. Wcstell. The house is near the Market-place. Mr. Henry North, the landlord of the house, deponed that he let the house to Prior by the quarter, at the rate of 101. per year. He (Mr. North) paid the rates and taxes, which amounted to about 30s. a year. The value of the house is 8/. to Si. 10s. Cross-examined by Mr. THESIGER.—I remember Prior's ease coming before t'le Revising Barrister. I was the only person examined a ,, linst the vote. Prior's brother was ex amined in support of the vote. Sometimes the rent is paid quarterly, sometimes yearly, and sometimes half-yearly. The house is let quarterly. I think I let the house for 31. a quarter for a year. That was in 1834. The rent was paid half yearly. Re-examined.--If I had let it for the year I would have taken 101. Mr. AUSTIN then proceeded to address the Committee in support of the objection, and Mr. THESIGEIL was beard on the other side. The room was then cleared for about half an hour. On our re-admission, The CHAIRMAN said the Committee had decided that the vote must be struck off the poll. They had also come to this resolution,—" That the words in section 27 of 2 William IV. c. 45, the clear yearly value of not less than 101.," mean a yearly value of 101. exclusive of the amount of the parochial rates assessed on the tenant. Thomas Crofts was objected to on the same ground—in sufficiency of value. The evidence in this case was similar to to that given on the last with the exception of the value, which appeared to be 6/. 10s. according to the calculations of Mr. Williams, and 3s. 6d. per week accord ing to Mr. Giles, subject to a deduction of 1/. 2a. for rate. On the other side witnesses were called, who proved the payment of 101. a year for rent. The Committee retained the vote. Henry Bayliss was next objected to on the same ground. The case had not been concluded when the Committee adjourned. SIR W. KNIGHTON AND GEORGE IV.—The fol lowing is an account of Sir William Knighton's visit to the death.bed of Mr. Dickie, a confidential clerk, and ultimately a partner in Coutts's, whose knowledge of the privy purse disbursements was peculiarly inti mate. Sir W.'s memirandum states---" In a few minutes I was desired to walk up to Mr. Dickie's bed-roam. He seemed exceedingly pleased to see me, and was evidently much affected. He looked very pale, his countenance considerably pinched, but his expressive eye still possessing its usual force; his mind clear and comprehensive as in the days of his best health. He took m) hand, and held it the whole time that I re. mained with him. He then said, I have seen Sir * here two or three times, full of civility from the present King, in the form of in quiry, and so on,' &c. Mr. Dickie then continued—' It is useful, some times, for a man on his death-bed to speak out. I thought it right to say to Sir *", that no monarch, nor any man, had ever such a friend as Sir William Knighton was to George the Fourth. He ma. naged and guarded his pecuniary concerns with an indefatigable care, and such a peculiar understanding that, had I not myself been a witness, I could scarcely have credited it. There were times when Sir William thought he was getting over difficulties, when large accounts came in of which he was not aware, like thunder-claps. He has more than once on such occasions, in my presence, most respectfully but firmly re monstrated with his Majesty upcn the impossibility of managing his affairs with any satisfaction, or, indeed, propriety of conduct, if such un foreseen expenditure occurred. Sir William's words, tone, and man ner, acted like magic upon the King. His Majesty, like a sensible man, seemed obliged from his heart; his whole demeanour showed it; and I myself, at such a novel scene, was struck with astonishment. From such circumstances, therefore, Sir *a * the name of Knighton is vary dear to ine. I think it right to inform you of all this ; and I say It on my death-bed, and will repeat that no monarch ever had such a friend as George the Fourth had in your parson.' "—Knighton's Memoirs. BURNING OF A IVllLL.—Yesterday morning (last Tuesday) about four o'clock, the alarm was made at the Police-office that the Provan Grinding Mill, the property of the Corporation, was on fire. The fire from its commencement had raged, with irresistible fury, and by the time the engines arrived, the mill was unroof'd. The whole building is in ruins, and a considerable quantity of grain has bean de strayed. The property we understand is insured. Strict In ;airy been made as to the origin of the fire, but as yet no information which can I,e relied on can be obtained._Glasgow Chronicle. A new mineral spring has been discovered at Carls bad: the water is nearly the same as that of the Muklbrunn in taste and tenlparature, but it contains a greater quantity of salt. pai was conveyed INE StV l / 4 ;Mate:4 attended ons, we, receive hi a? : - :( 4•14, A iehnuoul g : I ;ia th r: k , coattnUfilif us rctinu \...:f i stilf-T ay next, THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY", JUNE 12, 1838. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT HOUSE OF LORDS, JUNE 11. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Woolsack a' the usual hour. ROYAL COMMISSION. The Royal Assent was given by Commission to the Exche quer Bills (13,000,0001.) Bill, Regency Act Amendment Bill, Poor Law Loans Bill, Custody of Insane Persons (Ireland) Bill, London and Croydon Railway Bill, St. Helen's and Runcorn Gap Railway Bill, Brandling Junction Railway Bill, Newcastle-upon-Tyne and Carlisle Railway Bill, Cheltenham and Great Western Union Railway Bill, Manchester, Bolton, and Bury Canal, &c., Bill, Bristol and Exeter Railway Bill, Taw Vale Railway and Dock Bill, Deal Pier Bill, Bury (Lancaster) Waterworks Bill, Turton and Entwisle Reser voir Bill, Boughrood Bridle Bill, Londonderry Bridge Bill, Birkenhead Improvement Bill, Sheffield Improvement Bill, Gravesend Cemetery Bill, Oakham, &c. Small Debts Bill, Helsington (Westmoreland) Inclosure Bill, Dean Forest Roads Bill, Buckstones and Elland Road Bill, Stayley Road Bill, Twyford and Theale Road Bill, Salterhebble Road Bill, Wakefield and Halifax Roads Bill, Brampton Bierley arid Hooton Roberts Road Bill, Towcester and Hardingstoa Road Bill, Aylesbury and Thame Roads Bill, Balmore Road Bill, Linton (Cambridge) Inclosure Bill, Witcham (Cambridge) Inclosure Bill, Wiekwar (Gloucester) Inclosure Bill, Ches terton (Cambridge) Inclosure Bill, Higham Ferrers (Nor thampton) Inclosure Bill, Berden ( Essex) Inclosure Bill, Bishop's Castle and Nlunslow (Salop) Inclosure Bill, Earl of Effingham's Estate Bill, Painsivick Vicarage Bill, Le Jeune's Naturalization Bill, Newman's Naturalization Bill, Beurle's Naturalization Bill. POOR LAW LOAN BILL. This Bill also received the Royal Assent. The Commissioners were the Lord Chancellor, Earl Shaf. tesbury, and the Marquis of Lansdowne. NEGRO SLAVERY. Lord BROUGHAM presented petitions for the abolition of Negro slavery from Newcastle-on-Tyne, signed by 6,000 persons, from tho borough of So u th war k and many other places. POSTAGE. The NOBLE Loan also presented a petition in favour o: Rowland Hill's plan or postage. THE CANTERBURY RIOT. His LORDSHIP in alluding to this case, stated that the fact was, the person named Thom, and commonly called Courtenay, had been sentenced to transportation for a serious case of manslaughter in a riot, which sentence was commuted to imprisonment. He considered that all private influence should be excluded from that department whose duty it was to advise the Crown in the administration of the prerogative of mercy..—( Hear.) He moved for the production of the pa pers relative to the commutation of punishment in the case of one Fu!ger, an American lunatic. Lord MELBOURNE had no objection to the production of these papers. He begged to say that no private influence as as allowed to induce the present Ministry to advise the exercise of the prerogative of mercy on the part of the Crown. But surely representations, and information from tha parties, might be re ceived and considered—( Hear. ) The Duke of WELLINGTON said the sooner the decla ration was published that in these cases no private application would be listened to, the better ; and that the r,Tommendation of the Judge who tried the prisoner should be alone consi dered. —( Hoar. ) Lord WYNPORD said, the sentence of Thom having been commuted on the ground of insanity : care should hare been taken to prevent him from doing further mischief ; and those whose fluty it had been to tike the requisite precautions, and who had neglected to do so, were morally responsible for all the mischief that had occurred. This conversation, after a few words from Lord Lansdowne and the Earl of Winchilsea, dropped. IRISH 100 . 1 . Z.LAW. The Bill was postponed, we believe, till 1 7 :idly. Lord LONDONDERRY presented petitions against the Bill. NEGRO SLAVERY. Lord LYNDHuRsT presented several petitions against negro slavery. REGISTRATION OF BURGESSES. The Earl of HAREWOOD presented a petition from the Mayor, Aldermen, and Council of Leeds, complaining of the present registration of burgesses. ENGLISH POOR-LAW BILL. Viscount STRANGFORD presented a petition against the bastardy clause in the English Poor-law Bill. QUEEN'S BENCH SITTINGS BILL. On the motion of Lord DENMAN, and after a short con versation, in which Lord BROUGHAM and Lord NV YN FORD expressed their opinions that the provisions of the Bill should extend to th.i other Courts, the Queen's Bench Sittings Bill was read a second time. PRIVILEGES OF PARLIAMENT BILL. Lord BROUGHAM put it to his Noble and Learned Friend opposite, who had the charge of the Privileges of Par liameet Bill, vaictlier, as another Noble Friend of his had postponed a Bill which stood for Thursday, for that day, his Noble and Learned Friend would not consider it advisable to postpone his Bill until that day ? Lord L YNDH URST joined in (111 recommendation. In the absence of her Majei,ty's Ministers, and of the Noble Duke he trusted his Noble and Learned Friend would postpone the further proceeding with a measure to which he ( Lord Lynd hurst) entertained several objections. Lord WYNFORD would be very happy to postpone pro ceeding with the Bill if his Noble and Learned Friend would state what were his objections to the measure. Lord LYNDHURST said that i❑ live minutes he had dis covered four objectionable points in the Bill, and he had no doubt that in ten minutes he could discover as many more.— ( A laugh.) Lord WYNFORD then agreed to defer proceeding with the Bill until Thursday. THIRD REPORT ON CRIMINAL LAW. The Earl of DE VON, in pursuance of his notice, called the attention of the House to the third Report on Criminal Law. In the course of his observations on the subject, the Noble Earl dwelt on the expediency of extending in certain cases the system of summary con viction. It appeared from the various reports on the table, with respect to trials at quarter sessions, that two thirds, or even three-fourths, of the persons so tried suffered more imprisonment before their trial than any judge would have assigned to them for the commission of the offence. The Noble Earl moved that the third report be referred to the consileration of a Select Committee, with a view of pro viding by law for the summary conviction of certain offenders. Lord DENMAN supported the motion; and thought the subject one deserving the most serious attention. His Noble Friend was perfectly correct in stating that under the existing system many persona suffered longer imprisonment before trial than, if they were convicted, was imposed upon them as a punishment. In cases of ordinary larceny he did not see why the Grand Juries should be troubled at all. A more frequent gaol delivery was highly desirable. He thought the country much indebted to his Noble Friend for his present proposition. The LORD CHANCELLOR was quite satisfied as to the extent of the existing evil, but had some doubt if the pro posed plan would remedy i t . : Lord L YNDIIURST t h ought the subject worthy o f mo re deliberate inquiry, of his Noble F r i en d . The moti on was then agreed o and he sh ou ld therefore support the motion The Bills on t h e ta b le were advanced a stage, an d the House adjo urne d . t HOUSE OF COMMONS, JUNI? 11. The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usual hour. Mr. BARNEBY brought up a Report from the Selec Committee on Highways. Mr. FR E S HFIE LD brought up a Report from the Corn. mittee on Public Petitions. Sir M. WOOD brought up the Report of the Committee on the Metropolitan Suspension Bridge Bill; also the of the Committee on th e R oya l E xc h ange B u ildi ng Bill, which w as rea d a fi rst t i me. Mr. HANDLEY move d th e t hi r d rea di ng o f t h e South Holland D ra i nage Bill. The Bill w as rea d a thi r d ti me an d passe d . Report Mr. DENISTG UN brought up the Report of the Com mittee on the Garnkirk and Glasgow Railway Bill. On the motion of Sir J. MORDAUNT, the Leamington Priors Gas Bill was read a third time and passed. Lord ALFORD brought up the Report of the Committee on the Newton and St. Albans Road Bill. On the motion of Mr. M'Lean, the Pulliam Inelosure Bill was read a third time and passed. On the motion of Mr. PRINGLE, the Ladykirk and Norham (Tweed) Bridge Bill was read a third time and passed. On the motion of Mr. CRESWELL, the Liverpool Court of Passage Bill was read a third time and passed. On the motion of Mr. HALL, the P a ddi ngton Estates ' Bill was read a third time and passed. GLASGOW WATER WORKS' BI LL. On the motion as reoafd a NI third dltNimDe and passed. the Gl asgow Water Works 13i11 w Sir R. INGLIS presented a petition against the London, Birmingham, and Great Western Grand Junction Railway Bill. CHURCH OF SCOTLAND. Mr. WARD presented a petition from Sheffield against any additional endowments to the Scotch Church. BEER BILL. presented a petition from the same place againstir PARKE R theBe Beer r Bill. POSTAGE.. Mr. GA SKELL presented a petition from th e Edi tor of a Yorkshir e N ewspaper i n f a vour of a uniform Penny p ostage. Colonel VERNER presented a petition from the Apothe caries of Armagh and its vicinity against certain clauses in the Medical Charities Bill, and ten petitions from the same county praying for the restoration of the suppressed sees. Mr. HALL presented a petition from Marylcbone, praying that the St. Pancras Paving Bill be referred to a Select Committee. . _ Colonel CONO L LY presented two petitions from Donegal, praying for the abolition of Negro Apprenticeship. Mr. COLQUHOUN presented three petitions, praying for the suppression of ilindol Idolatry ; and a petition from Forfar against any further endowment to the Church of Scot land. Mr. WA RD said that, just before the adjournment for the holi days, he wishcd to obtain t he priority in giving, notice of a motion, and for that purpose he complied with the forms of the House. He put his name down the first on the paper, and W 713 in his placr, at five. when the adjournment was msved. The Speaker called his non,- the first on the paper, and he immediately gave notice of a motion for Tuesday, the 19th of June. H e now found that hie notice was inserted second on the paper in stead of first, and as this was a point of so No interest to his const:tuents he did not wish to give way if he was entitled to tllo priority. Sir E. CODRINGTON said that the Speaker called his name first, and he immediately handed in his paper. The SPEAKER did not know that he could settle it other wise than by referring to the Clerk's entry. Mr. WARD trusted that in future the original papers would be preserved. After some further discussion, which was not heard in the gallery, the conversation dropped. Mr. ING HAM presented a petition from Sunderland against the Postage Bill. Sir A. Clifford, the Usher of the Black Rod, then appeared at the table, and summoned the Members of the House to the House of Peers, to hear the Royal Assent given to several Bills, for which see Lords' Report. NATIONAL LOAN FUND. Mr. HALL said on Wednesday neat he should ask the President of the Board of Trade whether he intended to bring in a Bill to amend the Letters Patent Act of last year ; and if he answered in the affirmative he should then ask on what day he intended to bring in that Bill, because there were se veral Bills at present standing over until that Bill should be brought in. Mr. P. THOMSON had stated on a former occasion that he intended to bring in a Bill which had already been drawn to amend the Letters Patent Act passed during the last Session. It was quite out of his power to say when that Bill would be discussed, but he would bring it forward as speedily as possible. Mr. HA LL felt committed to the House, in consequence of the permission given to him to carry the second reading of the National Loan Fund Bill, not to take any step with regard to it, if there was any chance of the Bill of the Honourable Member being brought in early. It was impossible that this Bill (the National Loa❑ Fund) could be much longer delayed, and unless the Right Honourable Gentleman brought in his Bill in the course of this week, he (Mr. Hall) must proceed with the other.) FACTORIES' BILL. Lord ASHLEY gave notice that on Friday, the 22d of June, when the Order of the Day for the second read ing of the Factories' Regulation Bill should be read for the purpose of the Speaker leaving the Chair, he should call the attention of the House to the state of the law for the regulation of Factories, and move a resolution expressive of the regret of the House that such a state of things should be allowed to exist so long without amendment—( Hear, hear)—and lest he might take the Noble Lord by surprise, he would now state that he would most assuredly bring forward that motion, and although only one or two gentlemen should concur with him, he would take a division upon it. ELECTION PETITIONS. Sir ROBERT PEEL brought in a Bill for amending the laws relating to the trial of election petitions. He was anxious to bring it forward for discussion at an early hour, when there was a prospect of a larger attendance, but he was in the hands of the Noble Lord. The Bill was one so far of gener,,l inte rest as that it could not be considered in the light of one brought in by a private Member of the House. Lord J. RUSSELL had stated to the House that there were several Bills brought in not only by the Government, but by private Members of the House, which should be considered. Having already arranged that Orders of the Day should take precedence of notices, he was deprived of the power of acced ing to the proposition now made by the Right Hon. Baronet. Sir R. PE EL then gave notice that he should move the second reading of the Bill on Wednesday week. Lord MAHON thought it would be more convenient, if the Noble Lord would name some day for the second reading- of the Bill, when there would be a certainty of its coming on. On Wednesday week he thought there was business before the House that would prevent its coming on. Lord J. RUSSELL thought it would be desirable that such a course should be adopted, but he did not feel that he was called upon to name any day—that was with the Right Hon. Baronet. Mr. E. TENNENT wished to ask the Noble Lord oppo site (Morpeth) when the Irish Estimates would be brought on ? Lord MO R PETH said that the Secretary of the Treasury would bring them forward, but from the present state of busi ness he could not say on what day he would brine them forward. Mr. MACLEAN begged leave to ask whether the Go vernment intended to institute any Committee of Inquiry into the working of the National System of Education in Ireland ? Lord MORPETH said the Government had no such in tention. Mr. MACLEAN would then give notice that when the Irish Estimates were moved he would move the appointment of such a Cemmittee of Inquiry. Mr. CR ES WELL wished to know whether the Noble Secretary for the Home Department, in the absence of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, could inform him when the House might expect an answer to the Address respecting the Danish claims. Lord JOHN RUSSELL could not at present give an answer to the question. Mr. CRESWELL gave notice that he would put the question to the Right Hon. Gentleman when he saw him in his place. MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS (IRELAND.) Lord JOHN RUSSELL, in rising to move the further progress of this Bill would say, by way of preface to the motion, that the House in general would feel it to be more convenient, the Bill hating gone through Committee pro forma, and without having been regularly discussed, that it should be recommitted, rather than that the discussion should be taken upon the bringing up of the Report. He therefore moved that the Bill be recommitted. On the motion that the Speaker do leave the Chair, Mr. O'CONNELL rose and said—l request the indul gence of the House while I attempt to give reasons why this Bill should not be re-committed at present. My object in delay is, that I may have an opportunity of maturing such materials as have come into my possession lately, so that I may be enabled to show the House that the proposed plan ought not to be adopted, especially with regard to the City of Dublin. I mean to call the attention of the House to the p ar ti cu l ar s i tuat i on i n w hi c h the franchise in that city is placed, and to show the impossibility of giving a good municipal franchise to the electors of that city, unless the Heuse was in possession of more facts than it at present had knowledge of. When a prospect was held ou t o f conce di ng to t h e Ir i sh people municipal institutions—when it was discovered in Ireland that the Opposition party in this House had given up their inten tions of destroying the Municipal Corporations, it was received with unmingled satisfaction, and the lurking suspicion which dwelt upon my mind, that it would all turn out a delu sion did not find place in the breasts of my countrymen. In order t o un d erstan d t h e sent i ment that thus pre vails, the House ought distinctly to know what it is the people of Ireland require in this respect. They know Scotland has got a Corporate Reform Bill upon the Parliamentary franchise. They know that England has got a Municipal Reform Bill under another franchise. In England and Scotland tho Parliamentary franchise is different. In England it depends on the rating of the party for the poor. Each requires residence. The residence is required to be longer in England than in Scotland. The English Poor-law Bill is coupled with the necessity of triennial residence, and pay ment of rates, previous to the registry. It is desired to get either the Scotch plan or the English plan, and it is possible to realise it in every thing but in the payment of poor rates, which, of course, cannot be expected in Ireland, and there fore calling for the English plan would be an absurdity on the face of it, there having been no poor rates there. The Government proposed a residence of six months prior to the registry, and a payment of the triennial poor rates- That was thought too short a period by the Right Honourable Baronet, and he substituted one years' resi dence in place of a half year. That was his proposal. I am ready to accede to his proposal—of course . I am speaking of the substitute for the by-gone payment of Poor -rate s . - His proposal was to substitute an actual resi dence of twelve months. I adopt his substitute, and adopting his substitute in every other respect, I call on the House to give t o t h e peop l e o f I re l an d e i t h er the Engl i sh or Scotch Bill. In the circumstances in which Ireland now is, I would infinitely prefer the Scotch system. It is more simple, and it affords ma terials which we have in Ireland. If the House would give us the Bill, with the Scotch municipal franchise, I will accept it cheer fully and gratefully. But if the House refuse us the Bill which I should prefer, and give us the English Bill, identifying us with English institutions in this respect, I will adopt it at once, although reluctantly, on account of its complications. But I will receive it as a matter of conciliation and justice to Ireland. I want either the one Bill or the other. You have the materials for it in the Scotch Bill ; and I suppose we shall have the materials soon in the English Bill, as the Irish Poor-laws Bill has passed the House; so that we may be identi fied with England in this respect. But we ought to have one or the other. There is no justifiable pretext for giving us a third measure. There may be a reason which is not avowed—to diminish the franchise and - lessen the number of the elec tors. That reason will not bo avowed.—( Hear, hear, hear.) But that alone can bo the reason why we are refused either the English or Scotch system. Therefore it is I impeach the plan of the Right lion. Baronet. If you employ a rating, fixed at a particular sum, you must restrict the franchise, by trammels which do not exist in England or Scotland.—( Hear.) I wish to put the question so that the House should have before it the state of the Parliamentary franchise which is unincum bered by the details, by one-half of the charges, which the Right Hon. Baronet wishes to impose in the Municipal Reform Bill. Let the H ouse compare t h e popu l at i on o f Dublin with its Parliam en t ar y const i tuency, an d t h en say, will it be Justice to limit the municipal constituency in the same way. The inh a bit ants o f D u bli n are 265,316. Th e re are districts in the c oun t y o f D u bli n that are not inclu ded in the Parliamentary boundary of the city, the population in these amounting to something like 40 or 50,000. I leave these out of the calculation. I speak of nothing but what I have documents for, and for the 265,316 I have the Parlia mentary returns of 1831. The House ought to be curious to know how many voters are among them. They do not amount to four thousand. The entire of the constituency that voted in Dublin at the last election ran thue—the great est in number, 3,556, voted for me, and nearly the same num ber for my Honourable Colleague ; 3,467 voted for the de feated candidates ; and these were compounded thus-1,856 were freemen; of these 136 voted for the sitting Members, and 1,750 for the defeated candidates —( Hear, hear, hear. ) The municipal franchise is to b e f oun d among t h e res i due of the constituency. That is composed of leaseholders and free holders on the one hand, and householders on the other. The leaseholders and freeholders who voted for the sitting Members were 1,590; for the defeated candidates 1,065 ; making together 2,615. The householders who voted for the sitting Members were 1,830, and for the defeated can did ate 652, making alto gether 2,482. It is amongst these that you are to find the Municipal constituency. Supposing the Municipal and Parliamentary constituencies to be identical, here are the materials for finding them. But there must be considerable deductions from this. In the first place the house holders eynsist of 50/. freeholders who are not bound to reside —next of 501. rent-chargers who are not bound, and do not re side--of 201. freeholders and 201. rent-chargers who do not re side ; and from the 6th class of 10/. freeholders and leaseholders will the municipal constituency be found. There are, there fore, certainly only one-sixth of these 2,452 who being 10/. freeholders and householders will be at once transferred to municipal electors, if the municipal law and the Parliamentary franchise are to be synonymous. Add 600 to these, and you will have 2500 or 3,000 at the utmost—infinitely too small a franchise. Take it at 4,000 and the franchise is still miserably small, and is there any man in this House who would be disposed to lessen this franchise? Take the towns in England—take Leeds, which has a population of 150,000, and you will find that they have there 25,000 voters. Take Dublin, and behold what your Reform Bill has done for us—see what a gross injustice has been perpetrated in the shape of a Parliamentary Reform Bill —you have struck doan by your vexatious regulations, in a population of 265,000 — nearly double that of Leeds—the voters are only 5,000 at the utmost. The Hon. and Learned Member proceeded to say, was that to be made the basis of inflicting upon Dublin a greater wrong? He might be asked, what it was that prevented franchise being more extensive in Dublin ? He would tell the House it was the high state of the taxation which might be placed under five separate heads ; the voter could not be registered unless he had paid those taxes—he must pay the Watching and Paving Tax ; he must pay the Wide-street Cess, and the Pipe Water Cese ; and in addition to this he would now be called upon to pay the Poor -rate, the Insurance of the value of the premises, and the annual estimate of the repairs ; those three additional taxes must be paid before a party could register. What would be the consequence of introducing such taxes ?—( Cries of " Hear.") The Hon. Baronet proposed a Poor-rate, and that there should be a 101. franchise. Who was to pay that ? Not the landlord. In Ireland the landlords never paid such taxes. He never paid taxes for keeping premises in repair, or the insurance to the value of the premises, and the consequence therefore would be that upwards of one thousand voters would be dis franchised.—( Hear.) If the House meant by this measure to insult Ireland, as it had been so often insulted, it perhaps was a matter of little moment; but if they meant to effect ,good for that country, he called upon them to, hesitate before they sanctioned a scheme that would be productive of so much injury. The Right Hononourable Baronet had said that all that ha wanted was a criterion of the value. Was such a thing, he( Mr. O'Connell) would ask, wanted in Dublin? The fact was, that when the Right Honourable Bart. was in the Ministry he had passed a Bill to value the whole of the houses in Dublin, and a Commission was is sued. Two Tory surveyors were appointed, who had valued the whole of the houses in the city of Dublin. They had not only valued the houses, but they had given a description of what each tenement contained, and a more complete or particular valuation had never taken place. Before the Committee on fictitious votes the case of Dublin was many days considered, and there was no proof that there were any in that city—the only evidence on the case was that of a popular elector who gave the Chairman, who was a Conservative, the credit to say that he was too particular. They had already de graded Ireland ; were they then to go on and increase the burden and vexation already existing ? In the Scot tish Bill the Municipal franchise was the same as the Parliamentary one. Why, then, not allow the same principle to prevail in Ireland ? He wanted no more than that the franchise should be only that which had been clearly admitted on the records of the House. If the House consented to the adjournment which he proposed, he would be able to lay before them a statement which would demonstrate the injustice of persevering in such a course as was pointed out by the Right Honourable Baronet. If the Bill were once carried, he knew how he would be met with the cry of " the Church in danger" and "No Popery." He knew the difficulty of in creasing the franchise, and he did not wish to decrease it. Up to the period of the Parliamentary Reform Bill the rights were not only unknown but negatived. The Common Council or the Board of Aldermen could refuse any man who applied for his freedom in right of birth, servitude, or marriage, without as signing any reason. Nobody sympathised with him, but there was, forsooth, exceeding danger of letting in the Parlia mentary franchise; and what was the Parliamentary franchise after all? it was the management of the town, the keeping of the peace of the town, superintending the watch and superintending the police, furnishing streams of water to the town, and doing all those things that interest every individual. It was on this franchise that all their apprehen sion of having poor voters admitted existed. Upon the great Parliamentary franchise, that was to be the source of legislation for the nation, and government to the country, they were careless. They were ready to augment the number of freemen, but they had been taken away from the town and the Municipal institution, and had inflicted them with a sort of paralytic stroke—the Municipal side was dead, but they were in life on the other side—the Parliamentary franchise. He suggested the propriety of postponing this, in order that he should be able to give in detail to the House this enormous diminution of the franchise—not in the general terms in which he had given it now, but in the arithmetical exactitude in which be should be able to give it them, and the House would then have the opportunity of deciding upon it. He wished to call the attention of the House to the enormity which existed at present in the elective franchise, which they wished to perpetuate in the municipal franchise. They wanted to perpetuate the payment of ell taxes. No burgess, according to this plan, could register until he had paid all taxes, except those rated within the three preceding months. The Grand Jury Cess was laid in Dublin from the sth of January in every year, for that year prospectively. That was a monstrous inconvenience. The words in the Reform Bill appeared to be equivocal on the subject, and two Committees which had sat had decided that the voter was not bound to pay that tax in advance, but the Barrister registered no one who had not paid in advance. He wanted to bring all those details before the House, so as to leave no doubt, and he claimed the short postponement for one week, when he would be prepared with documents to show that the present Bill would not give more than a consti tuency of one-half per cent., or not more than 1,500 or 2,000 for the whole constituency. Should the House persevere, he im plored them to remember that the extent of his demand was to identify Ireland with England and Scotland. Let there be no difference between the three parts of the empire, as it was said they were identified by the Union.—( Hear, hear.) He called on the House to give Ireland the same muni cipal institutions with England or Scotland.—( Hear, hear.) He was instructed by his constituents that he would have in his hands the fullest details, and he would therefore move as an amendment that the Bill be committed, or as the forms of the House were, that the Speaker do leave the chair that day week. Mr. HUME seconded the motion. No Member having risen for some moments after the Speaker had put the question and amendment, much laughter was excited on the Opposition side of the House, when— Lord J. RUSSELL eventually rose to address it. The Noble Lord said he was not aware how his rising on such a question could occasion any laughter in the House. If it were the opinion of the House that the Bill should he post poned for a short period he would have no objection to con cede to the wishes of the House.--( Hear, hear.) Sir R. PEEL conceived the Noble Lord had charge of the Bill. If he ( Sir R. Peel) had made such a proposition at so advanced a period of the Session, it might naturally be in ferred that he wished to postpone the consideration of the Bill for another Session.--( Loud cheers. ) If the Noble Lord made his election to postpone the Bill, standing there as the representative of the Government, the House could not interfere.—(Hear, hear.) He (Sir R. Peel) cer tainly would not recommend its postponement. He would leave it to the Noble Lord to determine whether he would postpone the Committee or not. Lord JOHN RUSSELL thought it would be much better for the House to go into Committee to-night. Considering the number of Members present, he thought whatever was determined in Committee that an opportunity should be afforded to the Hon. and Learned Member of stating the facts to which he hid adverted, relative to the city of Dublin. lie thought that the facts showed a difference between the condi tion of the City of Dublin and other towns in Ireland and this country, and he thought the Bill ought not to pass through the House, without the case of Dublin being considered. But the House might now go into Committee, and take the gene ral question of the franchise. The question was then put on the amendment and nega tived without a division, and the House went into Committee. Clauses 1 and 2 were disposed of. Upon clause 3 being read, Mr. O'CONNELL moved that in addition to the words...— " That from and after the passing of this Act no person shall be elected, made, or admitted a burgess or freeman of any borough by gift or purchase," should be added the words "or at the discretion of any body or of any individual." The Honourable and Learned Member continued to say that his object was to do away with the discretionary power hitherto most unfairly used by the corporation of Dublin in the admis sion or rejection of freemen. Pending the Reform Bill the House of Commons sent an inquiry to the Dublin corporation upon this subject, and the answer they sent through the town clerk, and of course under the direction and legal advice of the Learned Recorder, was, that no persons were admitted of right to the corporation of Dublin. Since the Reform Bill, how ever, that had been changed ; they had admitted f reemen as of right in shoals. The corporation at present, in fa c t, re j ect whoever they please, and admit whoever they please, without assigning any reason. It was quite evident what use might he made of this for political purposes. It was an undefined power, and which could be used without responsibility. He wished to abolish this system. It was for this reason that he proposed to insert the words he had read. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that another clause would render that amendment unnecessary. If a person had an inchoate right a mandamus would lie ; if no inchoate right, then, under the Reform Hill, he was not entitled to admission. If the Court of Queen's Bench refused the mandamus in a case uhere the right lay a person might proceed by a writ of error, and in a case where there was an improper admission, the right could be tried by a quo warrant°. Under these cir cumntances he thought the words " gift or purchase" as they stood in the clause were quite sufficient. Mr. O'CONNELL said that on the showing of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman he ought to vote for the addition to the clause, for they were now denied in Ireland that corporate freedom to which they had an inchoate right if the Corpora tion wished. He had applied upon thoe grounds for a man damus to the Court of King's Bench in Ireland, and it was refused to compel the Corporation. So that the Honourable and Learned Member would deny them that right fur which a mandamus would not lie. With respect to the quo warranto, he had also tried that, and the King's Bench refused it be cause they would give an unqu difi , -d ouster, and this they were unwilling to do. What remedy, then, had they in Ireland ? They were I.,erfeetly at the discretion of the Ctrpocat ion. To remove this unqualified discretion was the sole purpose of his I suergestion. Mr. Sergeant JACKSON, on the part of the Corporation of Dublin, objected to the insertion of those words. Mr. O'CONNE Li, would ;elf. it to the 14.• - m c i Learned G ee tf einan w h et h er a man m i g h t not h ave tuitiLie all the conditions supposed to give him a right to the freedom of the City of Dublin, and yet be rejected on his application for admission thereto, either by the board of Aldermen or Common Council, without reason assigned. If that was ° <e * fact, what become of the inchoate right ? Mr. Sergeant JACKSON differed with the Honourable and Learned Member in his construction of the ninth section of the Reform Act, as it regarded honorary freemen. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER thought that a case had been made out in favour of some remedy for an evil of which he did not before know the exclusive existence: The exceptain in this instance claimed by the Colporation.Ot Dublin was but a f rau d u l ent excuse for the retent i on of poll' tical power. Sergeant JACKSON—It has existed time immemorial. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER would put the question t o a s h ort i ssue. T he Stamp Act on ly recog . nized two classes of freemen as entitled to admission. Were the Corporation of Dublin to create a third class ? Of tu e i . abuse of this ass um pti on , h e nee d on l y i nstance t he case 0 ' Lord Plunket's son, the son of the L or d Ch a ncellor of Ire land, who claiming to be admitted a freeman by birthright' was rejected by t h e C orporat i on for political causes. felt inclined to ad o pt some ammen d ment which would have the ef fect of getting rid of the anomalous state of things in question.. Sir W. FOLLETT should remark, without giving an ° P . nion on the subject then, that a right not very dissimilar t 0 that claimed by the Corporation of Dublin was at present claimed and exercis e d b y t h e C or ge poration of London in reg ard to the admission of i n di v id ua l s to the Court of Aldermen. should, however, b eg to o b serve t h at, after all, there was not sufficient information before the Committee on which to come to any decision on the subject ; and he therefore should O le against the amendment. After a few words from Mr. O'CONNELL, Lord G. So aIERSET, and Mr. FRENCH, Lord J. RUSSELL was not prepared to say that tr r amendments of th e H onoura bl e an d Learne d M em ber 0 Dublin were those he should adopt, and under these circum stances he thought it would be better to postpone the cleric for further consideration. Sir R. PEEL intreated the Committee to p au se ere it pro ceeded further in th e matter . I t was a new question ; and it involved the subject of rights, he hoped that time w u'. be afforded t o cons id er it sufficiently before an y d e cision we re come to. Mr. O'CONNELL acceded at once. After a sort conversation the amendment was then wlt ll.- drawn, and the clause postponed for further consideration. Clauses 4 and 5 were likewise postponed. On clause 6 being proposed, some verbal amendments we re agreed to i n th e ear li er paragrap h s, on the suggest i on of cit, R. PEEL and Mr. O'CONNELL. After a words from Mr. Sergeant Jackson, Mr. Hume , ?dr ' Baines, Sir E S ud d en , M r. W ar b urton, and Lord John Ru.s; sell, on that part o f th e c l ause being read which involves ta question of a 10/. or a 51. municipal "franchise, Sir R. PEEL rose and said—Sir, the Hon. and Learn it Gentleman the Member for Dublin has stated that the sperm , delivered by me i n thi s House some days ago, expressive 0 r e hope that the three questions respecting Ireland bad " or mained so long unsettled might be brought to a satisfaet t n is , issue bad been received in that country with unanimous to faction and applause, but that I had subsequently spoken Ito manner to disappoint the hope which that speech p i e . created. Now, I am sure it will be in the ree, ° " t i tion of all who heard me on the occasion to which Honourable and Learned Member alludes that tinctly stated on that eccasion t hat I was willing t° o ft draw my oppositi on to t h e Municipal Corporation Bill,Ze grounds which I th en f u ll y eiplained.--(Cheers.) grounds were that the municipal franchise in Ireland s h :" 11 , - e be a 101. franchi se o f a c l ear value to that amount. an(' ;ee the test of that v a l ue s h ou ld b e the test of rating. Upo n - t b hs point there could b e no mistake.—(Cheers.) This 'l a ' d ground and this was the proposition on which I co nsente net withdraw all oppositio n to t h e I r i s h Municipal Bill. Let this question be lo o k e d upon as a party question, or as „,- jt • which it is intended by me to offer any insult to Irelan d ' is impossibl e t o g i ve a f a i r or full cousideration to my Proper t i, a : sition without e xam i n i ng t h e state of the three ques tions , affect Ireland. Wh a t ever may b e done with the tithe anrfi priation principle we are secure in our own strengthu ate i power upon that qu es ti on , an d can d efeat any arrangemea t it. Ido not spe a k i n t h e tone o f tr i umph. I wish for a 7 l c ! factory adjustment, an d not to g i ve offence to the Pe°l3, Ireland.—( Cheers.) With respect, then, to the Mun' e Corporation Bill, I consented to waive all objection to th principle of establi s hi ng C orporat i ons in Ireland, and I Pr" tra posed that eleven principal towns, of a population of fiftc ...l thousand each, should have Corporations positively without any option, but that in the smaller toevne should be an cption to have Corporations or not, tl cording to the decision of a majority of the pal electors rated at 10/. The Honourable and Lear' e scsl- Member f u r D u bli n says t h at h e w i s h es to re d u cet s :_ local taxation in D u bli n , b ut t h at m i g h t b e done b y the r. 70 blishment of Board s . I suggeste d t h at a l t h oug h t he sy c qualification should prev a il i n D u bli n as i n t h e o ther 1 i!i - c towns, yet that I th o u g ht th ere s h ou ld b e a separate leer a nl tion for Dublin a s th ere was f or L on d on . M y propos:l6°n to the franchise is this :—I first propose that there s'aall be uniform franchise throughout all Corporate towns. that that franchise shall be ten pounds clear, ths.t is, - that thy house or tenement shall be worth the clear annual valet,: of tell pounds beyond the rent and, thirdly, I propose that the va" lue shall not be ascertained by the oath or the opinion of th e party holding, but that the value shall be ascertained by th e more satisfactory test of rating.—(Cheers.) These are thre° constituent elements of my proposition as to the franchise. 14 there, I ask, anything in this that implies an insult o r an l" . justice to the Irish people ? The Hon. and Lereraed Gentl(.'e man says that my object is to keep a monopoty of powe r " I the hands of the Orange p ar ty i n I re l an d ; bu t sec with wh at justice he makes the ass er ti on . Th e un if orm. f ranc hi se 15 t r) ,, rule that is establi s h e d i n E ng l an d an d S cot l an d . Th e No_u ni Lord opposite pr o p ose d a 101. f ranc hi se f or certa i n tow ns, a 5/. franchise for others. This was not tree uniform francw that prevailed in E ng l an d or S cot l an d, an d do I propose _v insult to Ireland when I o ff er th e same pr i nc i p l e to t h a t coun try that gover ns E ng l an d an d S cot l and ? I ask, i s i t 'ef that 10/. should b e th e f ranc hi se, or t h at rat i ng shou ld be 0.l ; test ? In England it is three years' occupancy, and the Pa i c . meat of all rates and taxes, and I doubt if that is not fol equal to the P ar li amentary franchise of 101. The Hon• anne Learned Memb er f or D u bli n says that he will be quite co nte d, with the same f ranc hi se f or Ireland that Scotland ha sr, that he will not consider that an insult to Ireland. NU le a re what the franchi se i n S cot l and i s. It is the same fora o liamentary voter an d f or a mun i cipal elector. The S cone• Bill says that th e tenant s h all reside six months on fh e te n or ment, and that it s h a ll b e of the clear annual vaitee ° f The Hon. and Learned Gentleman says, give menee o n but things. Here Ido give him things, not words. " Nusquam tuts fides." toh (Cheers.) Scotland, th en , h as the franchise of a cle ar value Mr. lIUME—Not clear. Sir R. PE E L--Did you not mean a clear francs Ise or 11°34 or did you me a n a f rau d? Wh at I want for Irelal .d iS annual value of 101. as th e f ranc hi se. With thr t. 1 l ect iort satisfied, but with no thi ng l ess. I w i sh to take: the e out of the power of the landlords, which a 51. .nebi. L se 1 01. not do. What was t h e op i n i on o f Lord Jeffrey as to tu e ab li s fs franchise for Scotland? Why that it w a s better to es t i c iral a uniform system, and that the qualification for -a manic elector ought to be as high as that for a Parliarrier ese aS one being of as much importance as the other. The P r ol tie Speaker, then Mr. Abercroinby, had expressed. tr° abe''' . merits. ( Here the Right Hon. Baronet reads ;xt racts '" speeches of Lord Jeffrey and Mr. Abercroint,y to the o f 13 effect.) The Noble Lord opposite, also, 'in spealu"id. 15., the gy land in the measures of corporate reform. 'lt ma y be a il 0 ,0 clause in the Ref , rm Bill by which the 10/. rate 4214 arranged as a qualification of voting, haci said, " " y e.. be prepared to defend that part of the Bill as 'ea' fectly unassailable." In fact, the principle now vocated was that adopted both by England and fora our opponents that they are exceedingly anxious to e xtetee ite measures of English and Scotch Corporation Reform tf , land, adjusted to a 10/. qualification, but adopting as vi e tab' the principle of rating for a test, that that vitie te i4 tty !dv entire, and converts th e booninto an i nsu l t . you shrink from a test which only goes to se cure o be? the qualificati o n sh a ll b e th a t w hi c h it profess, ;s t Nor shall I b e j us tly accuse d b y Reformers of inr.esa u vtlid insult to Ireland if I show them that, in the iirst itaae e !. to English R e f orm Bill requ i re d t h e amount , 3f quail ficat io A n d be based on and decided by the rating of the Poor. rate. we t why was this mode of rating abandoned? The sole„g;-f r eria was that in diff eren t t owns an d i n diff erent parish lei Queots-e" scales of rating existed with respect to these a o,3ss freelli ce , differences whi c h it was i m p oss ibl e to reconcile so ..a3 there" them to any uniform numerical expression of value . awned the fore the Noble Lord opposite very prope r ly a t e rt is test, as one which would be of unmanageable it ,equal. Al' practice. I well recollect the objections made . IV,", ° „ntteo thorp and Lord J. Russell to my propositions in t-' ° ,; e atiel: of adopting the Poor-law rating as the basis of qua" d, stet; for a 101. vote. They said that my principle wa s so° lity 01 would be practically unobjectionable if we had .te ecl u ,, But , Poor-rate established throughout the whole c-oo otry• u wait said they, "the feet is f ar ot h erw i se at preserit,:and if Y% long till that desirable unifo rm i ty i s established you ay wa ,; Nowt, enough, and the Reform Bill must stand stilt mean . while. : „i e or however, a similar obj ect i on no longer applies. Ant ivy prine'r to ,„ rating is to be appli e d i n Ireland, and the arrang. ement may introduced with perf ec t uniformity according to. t he mod aie .° tro , proved of by th e N o bl e L ord, and which he wof ild hav e ° B e e duced into England if circumstances had perneif .ted him. o r it has beer, objected to me that I am going eee raise the P: O4 , man's franchise in Ireland. No. lam goi as to m ake a„ franchise altogether, not going to raise t.he Amount of qualification unless it had heretofore been. previously unto:" taken at f ar l ess t h an it is sworn to be. --(Hear.) Dc Y°Ll. ._a think it right that the possession of the: franchise in frel the ought to depend on the opinion of the parties clainf.ng ht privilege ?—( Cheers.) I would request eny man who though t such a state of things desirable to refer to the procee ding s re , the Fictitious Voters Committee, and especially tce the evide t ,' .o given before it by Mr. James Lane, respecting the pract iles that prevails in registering the Parliamentary elect , ers in city of Cork. It is said that we ought to be mild o us in ,re ceiving thi s ev id ence, that Mr. Lane ought to be T ejecte d 1,1.,t, the vi o l ence o f hi s op i n i ons? Let him answer .f or himsel He was asked in the Committee— . What are your political opinions?. Mrs Lame reP i t e :4 l " I have no objection to say that I am what is eaj%ed a Liberal " Have you voted yourself?"—" I have." MIA " For whom did y ou vote ? " I voted for Map ft