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SECOND SUN OFFICE, &Teen o' Clock. THE LONDON. GAZE lITE THIS EVENING. WICZFEHALL, JUNE 15, 1836. The Kim", bits . ocen pleased to order a conge d'elire to pass the Great Sea', empowering the Dean and Chapter of the Cathedral Church 'if Ely to elect a Bishop of that See, the same being void by th.e death of Doctor Bowyer Edward Sparke, late Bishop they eof; and his Majesty has also been pleased to recommend to the .zaA Dean and Chapter, the Right Rev. Father in God Doctor Joseph Allen, now Bishop of Bristol, to be by them elected Bishop of the said See of Ely. The King has also been pleased to order a conge d'elire to pass the Great Seal, empowering the Dean and Chapter of the Cathedral Church of Lichfield to elect a Bishop of the See of Lichfield and Coventry, the same be ing void by the death of the Honourable Doctor Henry Ryder, late Bishr,p thereof; and his Majesty has also plcared to recommend to the !aid Dean and Chapter, Samuel Butler, Doctor in Divinity, to be by them elected Bishop of the said See. WAR OFFICE, JUNE 17. sth Regiment of Dragoon Guards—Cornet J. 1. Blackburne to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Stronge. who retires ; J. Conolly, Gent., to be Cornet, vice Blackburne, June 17. 7th Regiment of Dragoon Guards—Captain J. Crossley, from the 13th Regiment of Light Dragoons, to be Captain, rice Atkin son, wiro exchanges, June 17. 13th Regiment of Light Dragoons—Capt. T. Atkinson, from the nth Regimea of Dragoon Guards, to be Captain, rice Crossley, wbo exchanges, June 17. Coldstream Regiment of Foot Guards—Captain the Hon. R. E. Boyle, from the 85th Regiment of Foot, to be Lieutenant and Captain, vice Matthew, who exchanges, June 17. Ist Regiment of Foot—Staff-Assistant Surgeon A, Knox, M.D. to be Assistant-Surgeon, June 17. 6th Foot—Ensign M. Hall to be Lieutenant, wit'nout purchase, vice Latham, deceased, 7th Jan. ; Ensign. A. Barry to be Lieu. tenant, without purchase, vice Hall, w'nose promotion, on the 18th March, has not taken place, March ;H. Wheatstone, Gent., to be Ensign, vice Barry, 17th Jun , . 15th Foot—Lieut. T. Ros e , to be Captain, by purchase, vice Magan, who retires ; Ens;.g n F. Walker, to be Lieutenant, by pur chase, vice Rose ; J. Carey, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Walko.—June 17. 20th Foe,t--Ensign G. W. Rice, to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Briscoe, appointed to the 2d Dragoon Guards ; B. F. Vernon, Gent., to be Ensign, br purchase, vice Rice, 17th June. 36th Font--Major E. K. S. Butler to be Lieutenant-Colonel, by purchase, vice Keightly, who r etires ; Captain B. F. D. Wil fon to ho Major, by purchase, vice Butler ; Lieutenant J. Fraser, to be Captain by purchase, vice Wilson ; Ensign F. English to be Lieutenant by purchase, vice Fraser, June 17. 80th Foot—P. Gammie, Gent. to be Assistant Surgeon, J une 17 . 85th Foot—Capt a i n G. B. Mathew, from the Coldstream Regi ment of Foot Guards, to be Captain, vice Boyle, who exchanges, June 17. 86th Foot—Hon. E. S. Plunkett to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Blewett, who retires, June 17. SPITAI. STAFF. R. B. Galan, Gen H t. O , to be Assistint-Surgeon to the Forces, vice Knox, appointed to the Ist Regiment of Foot, June 17. MEMORANDUM. The date of Major Townshend's commission, in the 24th Regi me:it of Foot, is 10th October, 1835, and not the 25th of that month. Commission by the Lord Lieutenant of the County Palatine of Chester. • King's Regiment of Cheshire Yeomanry Cavalry—W. R. Court, Gent., to be Lieutenant, vice Marshall, resigned, June 3. DECLARATIONS OF INSOLVENCY. JOSEPH MITCHELL, boarding-house keeper, Brighton. BANKRUPTCIES SUPERSEDED. ISAAC LEVI, merchant, Old Broad -street. ROBERT FARR, dealer, Doncaster. BANKRUPTS. DEEN MAHOMED, bath proprietor, St. James's-place, St James's-street. JOSIAH TAYLOR, dealer in pictures, Pall-Mall. JOHN PIPER, coal-merchant, Prince's-wharf, Lambeth. FRANCIS SHAW, master mariner, Eltham, Kent. MATHEW MILLINGTON, j o i ner, Nottingham. JOHN HAWORTH, cotton manufacturer, Haslingden, Lam cashire. JOSEPH BURKE, shopkeeper, Standish with Langtree, Lan, cashire. JOHN HOGG, victualler, Mathon, Worcestershire. JOHN WILLIAMSON WEBSTER, currier, Salford. WILLIAM ROBINSON and JAMES ROBINSON, manu• facturers of fancy goods, Sheepridge, Huddersfield. JOHN LEGGE LUCAS, druggist, Birmingham. COURSE OF EXCHANGE.-(THIS DAY.) Amsterdam C.F. 12 6% Leghorn.., 3B Ditto, at sight l2 436 Genoa. . ,. 25 85 Rotterdam 2U. 12 6% Milan. 31 Antwerp l2 5 Veni.ce 47 Altona Hamburg M.B. 13 14 N . ap l es 4Ol 13 14 .. 7.!alermo per oz. 122 Paris, 3 days' sight 25 CO Lisbon 563i Ditto ......... ............ 2 Us. 25 90 Oporto 56% Marseilles. Petersbuigh, ruble .3 Us, .10 0 Buenos Ayre s Berlin t ... 7 3 Dublin, y 21 das' sight 1 39 Vienna, effective fl 2 ig . 10 12 Cork l% Trieste..—..ditto ..... ... 10 13 Madrid. 37 Cadiz .. ......... .. 37 Flilboa 36% Barceiona .... 3639 Seville Gibraltar PRICE OF BULLION, PER OZ. Portugal Gold, coin £0 0 0 Foreign Gold, in bar 5...... 3 17 9 New Doubloons 0 0 0 New Dollars Silver, bars, standard O5 0% IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT, (THIS EVENING.) 110 USE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the Chair at four o'clock. Sir H. PARNE LL moved the further consideration of the Report on the Dundee Water Works. Sir G. CLERK said it was of great importance that the town of Dundee should have a good supply of water. The expense had originally been estimated at 5,6001., and subsequently, in consequence of that estimate not having been carefully prepared, it was increased to 7,0001. ; and subse quently it had been raised as high as 13,000/. ; upon which a clause ha;i been introduced which altogether changed the cha racter ol the measure. Under these circumstances he should feel it nis duty to move that the clause do not stand part of the Bill. Sir H. PARNELL said the town stood very much in need of 'a supply of water, but the alteration complained of would be highly advantageous to the rate-payers; for instead of having to pay 3,0001. or 4,0001. a year for pumping, as they would be obliged to do under the original plan, the; would only have to pay the interest of forty thousand pounds r.or extending the line. Sir GEORGE CLERK explair-A. He hoped as the case was rather a novel one the ',3peaker would favour the House with his opinion. After a few words from Mt... CHALMERS, in support of the clause, The SPEAKER said Vile question was one of considerable importance, and proceeded to point out the difference between the clause as it stood iri the present Bill and that originally introduced; but the l'Jw tone of voice in which the Right Hon. Gentleman spoke prevented our hearing his observations dis tinctly. BRIGHTON RAILWAY. Lord GEORGE LENNOX brought up the report of the Committee on Stephenson's Line for the above Railway. Mr. ALSTON brought up a Special Report from the Committee on Rennie's Line. Both were ordered to lie on the table. On the motion of Sir OSWALD MOSELE Y, Thrings testate Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be coin mated. Mr. BALFOUR brought up the report of the Glasgow and Falkirk railway Bill. On the motion of Lord ARTHUR HILL, the Ban Re servoir Bill was read a third time and passed. CANAL NAVIGATIO7",. Mr. MACKINNON presented a ':etition from certain ~ mp laini ng owners of property in the parish of , i.aryleb one co of a great depreciation of property 5 . y reason of the increase of canal navigation. HENEAGE'S ESTATE BILL. On the motion of Mr. k. SANDFORD this Bill was read a second time. WESTMP:vSTER SMALL DEBTS. On the motion '.,f Mr. BYNG the Committee on this Bill obtained an exto'asion of time till Friday next to make their report. MEDICAL ATTENDANCE AT CORONERS' INQUESTS. Mr. WILKS presented a petition from seven physicians of Worcester, and other medical men of that City and County, praying some provision might be made by which medical men might receive compensation for their attendance before Coro ner's Inquests. The Hon. Gentleman also presented a petition from a place in Berks, in favour of the Registration of Births, Marriages, and Deaths Bill. CHURCH RATE. Mr. dpi- stated that, in consequence of indisposition, he had been unable to bring forward a measure respecting ChtP:ch Rates; but that he should ende"..vour not to let the session pass away without making some effort to relieve the 'Dissenters in some way Jr other from those imposts. EAST INDIA MARITIME OFFICERS. Mr. G. F. YQ ONG, in presenting the petition of which be had givr,n notice, begged to assure the Hon. Gentleman (the President of the Board of Controul) that he did not par tici'pate in the imputations thrown out by certain parties against the Hon. Gentleman ; on the contrary he ( Mr. Young) believed that he had been influenced by the very best intentions, al though at the same time he thought the course pursued by him had operated with great injustice towards the petitioners. At the termination of the East India Company's charter the trade was thrown open, and a f,,ceat number of the commanders of their vessels were in bill had '..onsequence thrown out of employment. A pass 'A that House awarding compensation, b ut b y the re a l fiations adopted t o carry the provisions of the act into 'Llfect, great injustice was done to the petitioners.—( Hear. ) Ile question had been brought by petition before the Pro_ prietors, who unanimously decided that the parties were en titled to the compensation claimed, and recommending the Court of Directors to admit the claim of these parties. Not withstanding both the Court of Directors and the Proprietors have concurred in that recommendation, that the grant should be allowed, they have been refused by the Board of Controul, and they now saw no means of obtaining it, but by appealing to that House. Such were the facts of the case. They had been pre vented from following their profession by the discontinuance of the Company's tr , ..Ade, and i n hi s opinion they had established a clear and inoont • le right to demand, at the hands of the Court of Directors, e compensation that had been provided for - the other officers o that service. He would not trouble t h e H o u s e further ; bit as he was wholly unacquainted with Vie opposition which' ight be off ere d to the petition, he 41, - fi I puio• . ~_ J __._..~..~ _.. __._ trusted the House would oblige hliti with e 11 reply. These gentlemen had a n u n d ou b te d rigbt 'to a, ac cording to the rule afrlaid dekltn ntretrot Control. - An Hon, Memetei, whose bathe was unknown, harbeen requested to support etl* pirayer of the petition, which he did with very great pttasure, because the claim was one of justice, and every ebb of the best feelings of man must be enlisted in tie favour. He was well acquainted with the service, to nrhich England owed much. All the science which had been applied to naval matters for the last 40 ye trs owed its origin to the East India service. Within that time not even a junior officer in that service but was eompelvtit td tiaVigate the largest of his Majesty's ships to any part Of the world. He would appeal to the person eiho was At the head of the scientific department of the Admiralty, friith which source he received the information he pessetsed. The Officers of the East India Company were witlint exception the mist gallant and the most detoteit N he ever witnessed. The Hon. Mem ber concluded bzlifiVing his most cordial support to the petition. Sir JOHN U. HOBHO USE; could assure the Hon. Member Who had just sat down, that, no man more than 'airnself estimated the value of the services of the officers a the East India Company. He questioned not their merits, but he must confess after looking over again the papers with r s.)ect to the particular case in question, he had arrived at the same conclusion to which he had come before. It was with the greatest pain that he felt compelled from a sense of public duty to resist those claims, more especially when, as stated by the Hon. Gentleman. (Mr. Young,) they were recommended by the Court of Directors and the Court of Proprietors. But the Hon, Gentleman made a slight mis take when he stated that. the Court ef birectors took in the first instance the srae view as they did now. They had at first decided that these clelms were not admissible, but they afterwarlts changed their opinion. He, however, had no reason to differ from the opinion of Lord Ellenborough, when that Noble Lord was at the head of the Board of-Controul. A total misapprehension prevailed as to the meaning of the Act of Parliament. It was never contemplated that the power of that House was to govern individual cases. If it was to be occupied in that way, the whole t:lne of the House would be taken up, to the exclusion of all other business. He had certainly given the most attentive consi deration to the case of the petitioners ; and after the most mi. nute investigation, he must say that he fully concurred in the decision of Lord Ellenborough, that the petitioners had proved no prospective loss. On these grounds it appeared to him that the present was not a case for Parliament._-( Hear.) Mr. ROBINSON thought the only question for the House was, whether these parties had been injured by the discontinu ance of the East India Company's trade with China. In his opinion they had, and their case was one of peculiar hardship, and he might add of injustice. The Right Hon. Baronet had stated that the Court of Proprietors had nothing to do with it. Undoubtedly the Court of Proprietors had no pecuniary interest in the matter, because their dividend was secured to to them ; but they had a right to interfere, because they were one of the three parties to the contract which had been made between the Company,the Proprietor,and the Maritime Officers. He was only anxious that justice should be done to all parties. He was not aware of the intentions of his Hon. Friend, neither could he then say whether he would take any ulterior pro ceedings upon behalf of other officers; but the,-case was one which the House ought,--in fact it was incumbent upon the House to enquire into the subject, and take some steps for securing justice for the parties. Mr. PRA I 2D, after detailing the state in which the ques tion was when he was Secretary to the Board of Control, said that be thought there was a strong claim on the part of more than tone of tho officers of the East India Com r.eny.—( Hear.) With respect to the statements of the Right Honourable Baronet, that Lord Ellenborough had given a decided opinion on this subject, he begged to say that that Noble Lord had not given any decided opinion on the subject ; he had only given an opinion on the case before him, stating at the time, that if a case of a different complexion came before him upon the:subject, be should give it his consi deration. Mr. V. SMITH did not think that the petitioners had made out a good claim for compensation. Mr. G. F. YOUNG would not occupy the House further with this discussion ; he merely rose to give notice that on the 7th of July he would move that the petition he he had just pre sented be referred to a Select Committee. IRISH CORPORATION BILL—LORDS' AMEND- MENTSr The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER appeared at the Bar of the House, and being called upou, said, that as Chairman of the Committee appointed by the House to draw up reasons to offer to the House of Lords for disagreeing to certain amendments mad e by th e i r L or d s hi ps i n t h e Irish Municipal Corporations Bill, he was directed to state they had drawn up those reasons, and to report the same to the House. The Report having been presented, was read by the Clerk. It began by stating the necessity that a good correspondence should exist between the twe Houses of Parliament for the enactment of good laws, and to promot e th e secur ity, peace, and tranquillity of the United Kingdom—it stated that the Bill for the better regulation of Corporations in Ireland was fsamed on the principle of a reform of abuses, retaining a system of Municipal Government, but that the Bill which was returned from the House of Lords abolished Municipal Corpo rations in Ireland altogether, and placed the Corporate funds ueder a Board of Commissioners.—( Hear, hear, hear.) The Bill, as amended, contained an entirely new principle. and a new title, and must, therefore, be considered as an original measure—that from an earnest desire of preser ving a good understanding and correspondence between the two Houses, and considering it essential to the well being of the Monarchy, that House had proceeded to take into conside ration the amendments made by the House of Lords, and they hoped that the measure founded thereon would meet with the concurrence of the other House of Parliament. The Clerk then proceeded to read in detail the various amendments made by the House of Commons, with the rea sons teeae for. Sir ROBERT PE EL hoped that it would ee distinctly understood that the reasons were given under protest, and that they were not the opinions of the entire House.— (Opposition cheers.) It was impossible to deny that arguments might not be urged for not agreeing to those amend ments, but that could not be done without opening the whole question and provoking a lengthened debate. By withhold ing or not provoking that discussion, he trusted that it would be undorstood that these reasons were given under protest, and with a distinct reservation on that side of the House. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that the understanding on such occasions, and as had been the case last Session was, that these reasons were to be considered as the reasons of the majority.—( Hear, hear, hear.) As re spected the minority of that House, the matter was a mere ex parte proceeding. He would suggest that the same course be now pursued as was done in the former occasion. They were the opinions of that side of the House, and of course did not in any way preclude the gentlemen of the other side. Sir R. PEEL doubted whether it would be a good prece dent to set, that the report of a Committee should be taken and received as the opinion of the House. 14t. S. RICE said they were read as a mere matter of curse. nhe Clerk then proceeded with the reading of the reasons, which having been agreed to by the House, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, Mr. P. THOMPSON, the ATTORNEY-GENERAL, and a great number of Members proceeded to the House of Lords, to request a conference (LEFT SITTING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. Their Lordship! met at Three o'Clock, and were occupied up to five o'clock with the examination of witnesses on the Stafford Disfranehisament Bill. MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONS. Mr. MACKINNON and others brought up a message from the Commons, requesting their Lordships to allow the Duke of Richmond to be examined as a witness before the Committee appointed to investigate the subject of Tolls and Turnpike Trusts in Great Britain and Ireland. Also', that the Commons had agreed to allow one of their Members (Mr. Williams) to be examined before their Lore'. ships upon the Stafford Disfranchisement Bill. The Tralee Harbour Bill, the Oyster Fisheries Bill, a' d the Administration of Justice in the Cinque Pcrts Bill, wcie also brought up• from the Commons. POST-OFFICE. Lord MELBOURNE seeing his Noble Friend on the cross-bench (the Duke of Richmond), wished to know whether he would postpone his observations on the Report of the Post office Commissioners till some day next week. The Duke of RICHMOND had no objection to consent to this arrangement, but he should like to have an early day, and if the House had no objection he would take Monday next. CONFERENCE WITH THE LORDS.—IRISH .MUNICIPAL BILL. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, attended by a large body of the Members of the House of Commons, appeared at the Bar, to request a conference with their Lordships on the subject of the amendment to the Irish Municipal Bill. The Conference w as agree d t o , an d cons i s t e d o f th e following Noble Lords :--The Lord President, the Lord Privy Seal, the Duke of Cleveland, the Earl of Tinto, the Bishop of Bris tol, Lord Crewe, and Lord Hatherton. It was ordered to be held in Committee-room, No. 5. After an absence of about a quarter of an hour the Coy fcrence returned, when The Marquis of LANSDOWNE announced that the Con ference on the part of the Commons was conducted by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, His Lordship then prcc2eded to vad the reasons of the Commons for disagreeing to the amendments, which will be found in our report of the pro ceeds of the other House. Lord M E LBO URNE then moved that the Bill as arnendA by the Commons be presented and taken into conzideration on Friday next.—Agreed to. (LEFT SITTING.) IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. ROUSE OF COMMONS, Ju.rs 16. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER klt it his duty to say a few words upon the last petition presented by the Hon. Member. It was from a gentlemen lately in the Preventive Service. The occurrence took place in the year 1822, and had been before successive Boards of Treasury, and it had been decided against the petitioner before he (Mr. S. Rice) came into office. It was due, how ver, to his predecessors to say, that he had been solicited to take the case into his consideration ; he had done so, and he found that it involved two particulars of complaint —the first was a complaint against his professional capacity, and the other complaining of the value of the cargo. g to the su bj ect , t h e After full consideration had been iyen tas 4‘c Cos- n tit. had felt themselves compelled to negative the u —(H ear , h ear )—but Lord Spencer agreed Ora a e lee should be made to the gallant Admiral the Member for Devonport, the result of which was to acquit him of any want of spirit. It was never exp2cted by the Government that the Gallant Admiral would decide the question of law. Upon applying to this individual, to know why he had not applied earlier for the reward, he stated to him (Mr. S. Rice), and he had a letter from him to that effect, that he had been induced to forgo his claim to the rewartb because tWo of hi opponents were of such different biltiratteis, and he could not claim his reward without includ:ng them. If the Gentleman who had presented the petition would take the trouble to read all the documents on the subject, he was sure he would see there was no' foundation for the alleptions of the pe titioner. Mr. O'CONNELL said that he had read the whole of the documents, and was of the same opinion as the Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer. Other people had captured the vessel, and in consequence the petitioner had not claimed the reward. Years had passed since then, and he now came forward to claim it. Tile pe tition was then ordered to lie on the table. REVENUE LAWS. Mr. BISH presented a petition from Leominster against the power of distraining for King's taxes. One of the peti tioners had been sued and committed to gaol. The petition stated that manslaughter was visited in a much less severe manner than offences against the Revenue laws. IRISH CORPORATION BILL. Mr. CHALMERS presented a petition from Montrose, praying the House not to agree to the Lords' amendments on the Irish Municipal Corporation Bill. Lord STANLEY presented a petition against certain clauses of the same Bill. SINGING IN THE STREETS. Mr. FOX MAULE gave some notice in reference to the Turnpike Trusts Consolidation Bill, the nature o f which we could not learn. The Hon. Member took that opportunity of answering a question put to him aday or two before by the Hon. Member for Surrey, respecting two persons who had been committed to prison by the magis trates of Hatton-garden for singing in the streets. H e had made enquiry into the matter, and he found that the charge upon which they had been taken' into custody was for creating an obstruction in the streets, and that they had been only in confinement for an hour instead of seven days, as the Hon. Member had been informed. Major BEAUCLERK expressed his satisfaction at the explanation of the Hon. Gentleman. OBSTRUCTIONS IN THE STREETS. Colonel SIBTHORP called the attention of the Hon. Gentleman to the obstruction of carriages and other vehicles in the streets, by which serious accidents were frequently occasioned. He trusted that some regulations might be adopted on the subject. TRINITY HOUSE, KINGSTON-UPON-HULL. Mr. HUTT trusted the House would allow him to in troduce the Bill for which he had given notice upon the subject of the Trinity House of Kingston-upon-Hull, and the discussion might be taken upon it at a future stage. Mr. ROBINSON objected to the introduction of the measure, as it took him completely by surprise. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER hoped no difficulties would be thrown in the way of the business of the evening by opposing the motion. Leave was given to bring in the Bill. REPEAL OF THE SEPTENNIAL ACT. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the Hon. Member for Finsbury had a motion upon the subject of the Septennial Act, which was likely to excite a prolonged debate. Mr. WAKLEY *would withdraw the question for the present, as he conceived it inexpedient to bring it for ward now. Independently of that, he was aware there was a general anxiety to have the Registration o f V o t ers ' Bill passed, and he should throw no ()bade in the way.— ( Hear.) IMPROVEMENT OF THE METROPOLIS. Mr. Alderman WOOD did not anticipate any opposi tion to the motion which he was about to bring forward. It was to move for the appointment of a Select Committee to consider the most effectual plan for raising money to carry into effect the necessary improvements required in the cities of London and Westminster, the borough of South wark, and the counties of Middlesex and Surrey, and for the purchase of the interest of the proprietors of Waterloo and Southwark-bridges, in order that they might be thrown open free of toll. He had been considered extravagant in the improvements he had projected in the City ; but the new street which had been opened from London Bridge, and the new street at the Post Office, and various other improvements had been carried into effect in a satisfactory manner, and bad, he trusted, satisfied those gentlemen that his projects were not so extravagant.—(Hear, hear.) He had attempted to carry the wide street from Waterloo bridge to the North-road, but he did not meet with that support in the Committee which be expected ; the conse quence was that he failed, and the wide street was carried only up to Bow-street, at an expense of 10,0001., while he proposed to have carried it all the way to the North-road for 100,0001. He proposed to get a fund for carrying his project into effect by a tax of sixpence per ton upon all coals imported into London, which would give an annual sum of 51,0001. He calculated that the poor man would thereby pay about Is. a year for the privilege of passing free over the whole of the bridges. He did not mean that the funds should be as heretofore, under the control of the City, but that Commissioners should be appointed, consisting of Members of Parliament, of the Corporation, and of magistrates, who would give their services gratuitously. The Hon. Member then proceeded to state his proposed plan, and concluded by moving that a Select Committee should be appointed to consider and carry into effect the necessary improvements in the City of London and West minster, and the Borough of Southwark ; and also the means of raising the money for that purpose. Mr. HUME, in supporting the motion of the Worthy Alderman, hoped it would be understood that he was not sanctioning raising money upon coals. No one more than himself thought it necessary that improvements should take place in the City of London ; and he hoped that , the plan suggested by the City of London would be carried into effect. He was anxious to give them an opportunity of submitting that plan to the House, and therefore it was that he voted for the motion of the Hon. Alderman. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he should object, if the public purse were to be called upon. Mr. Alderman WOOD said he did not wish to do so. Sir R. PEEL hoped that in any improvements that might be suggested, some little foresight would be shown before they were carried into effect.—(Hear, hear.) Supposing it to be manifest that great improvements would be made, he hoped that Government would not put a veto upon them—or upon the advance of public money. He would not say that the public should sustain any loss, or that the metropolis had any claim upon the public money more than other parts of the Empire. But it was possible that when great improvements might be made by the Govern ment advancing money, which could not be made by any other means, and when the public could sustain no loss, as in the transfer of Exchequer Bills—in that case he thought they might apply the public money upon perfect security. Whether a Committee was the best mode of making the inquiry, he was not prepared to say. He thought that a Board of Commissioners would be better adapted to the purpose. The motion was then put and carried. LOTTERIES. Mr. O'CONNELL would move as an amendment, by way of an instruction to the Select Committee, that an in quiry be instituted into the state of the law relative to lotteries, and whether any, and what alteration, was deemed necessary.—(Hear, hear.) Every Hon. Member of the House must be aware that notwithstanding the law restraining lotteries, they were carried on openly—they were advertised in the newspapers. Foreign lotteries were daily advertised, and tickets disposed of. Now, although the sale of tickets was prohibited, persons were not prohi bited from purchasing them, and by means of agents here money to the amount of between 100,0001. and 200,000/. was annually exported from this country.—(Hear.) Now, if there were an inherent immorality in these lotteries, the House ought not to countenance it, but when they saw what was going on—when they say 10, 20, 30, aye and 40 gaming houses open eve r y n i g ht t ota ll y unrestrained, he thought that the subject required investigation.—(Hear, hear.) They ought to enquire whether foreign lotteries should be suppressed or not, as his motion went that length, or whether they should allow the establishment of home lotteries? Mr. HUME submitted that this was a proper subject for a separate Committee.—(Hear, li:ar.) There was no connexion between the objects of the two mations, and he thought that a different class of individuals ought to be put upon the two Committees. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was very glad that the subject had been noticed. His attention had been already called to the subject, and he had a Bill in preparation which he hoped was calculated to meet some portion of the evils that were complained of. He would introduce his Bill in the course of a few weeks, and the House might then decide on it. On the contrary, he should support the reference of the Bill to a Select Com mittee. Mr. O'CONNELL e3.pressed his satisfaction at what had fallen from the Right Honourable Gentleman. SOCIETY OF FRIENDS. Mr. CHARLES LUSHINGTON had given noti ce of his intention to present the pet i t i o n f rom this bod y t hi s evening. As, however, it appeared to be the wi s h o f t h e House that other business should be proceeded with, he would postpone it for the present. ROMAN CATHOLIC ENDOWED COLLEGES. Mr. TREVOR postponed his motion on this subject till Thursday week. Lord JOHN RUSSELL replied in the negative. Mr. WASON then gave notice, that on Thursday next, he would bring forward a substantive motion on the subject. REGISTRATION OF VOTERS' BILL. The House resolved itself into a Committee on this Bill--Mr. BERNAL in the Chair. On Clause 2 being put, Sir J. GRAHAM made some objection to the clause, but the precise nature of the objection did not reach us. Mr. WARBURTON defended the clause. Lord JOHN RUSSELL supported the clause. Sir R. PEEL thought if the election was to take place upon a given day, then that the old system should prevail ; if afterwards, then that the new one should come into ope ration. Mr. WAKLEY moved that his Majesty's name should be substituted for those of the Lord Chancellor and the Speaker. An HON. MEMBER, whose name we did not know moved an amendment, that the appointment should rest with the Lord Chancellor solely. After considerable discussion the House divided. numbers were— The ~.. 58 ~.. 38 • Ayes Noes Majority in favour of Mr. \Vakley's amendment —2O On the reading of that part of the clause which pro posed that the revising barristers to be appointed under the Bill should be of at least five years standing, Mr. MACLEAN proposed as an amendment that it should be five years for those who practised at the bar and were not special pleaders, and two years for barristers who had been four years below the bar. He afterwards altered the amendment to three years at, and three years below the bar for all. Mr. AGL lONBY proposed two years and a half a and two years and a half below. The House divided, when there appeared (as we un derstood) for Mr. Maclean's amendment— Ayes ..... Noes 'k.... 113 Majority - 111 Mr. PRAED said that, on the bringing up of the Re port, he would move that the power of appointing Barris ters be in future vested in the Lord Chancellor, the Speaker, and the Judges of the superior Courts. Lord G. SOMERSET said that he should object to the clause altogether, as being calculated to impede the object contemplated. By the present plan the eight Barristers proposed to be appointed to do the business of 147 Barris ters, who had been engaged last year, would, taking the average number of days and hours during which the late Barristers sat, require 479 days out of the 365 in the year to do the public business.—(Hear, hear, and a laugh.) It was utterly monstrous to suppose that eight Barristers could have done the business of the 147. Mr. WARBURTON supported the clause. Sir W. FOLLETT said that it was not so much a mat ter of importance whether the number of Barristers was large or small, as whether the appointment should be vested in the Government.—(Hear, hear.) He had a strong ob jection that the Revising Barristers should be creatures and nominees of any Government. The House, in adopting the clause, would be acting with gross inconsistency. The proposition of investing the Ministers with so tremendous a power as the nomination of the Commissioners, on whose decision the elective franchise all over the kingdom was to be in most cases decided, was so objectionable and uncon stitutional that he should support the proposition of the Noble Lord if he pressed for a division. The House then divided, when there appeared— For the motion BB Against it 55 Majority —33 On clause 7 being . prop . osed— Mr. GOULBURN inquired if a barrister acting *du. ring 'the illness of a revising barrister, might stand as a candidate at an election ? The ATTORNEY-GENERAL replied in the nega tive, and introduced a clause to that effect. Sir J. GRAHAM objected to the appointments being in the Crown. Mr. JERVIS said that the Welch Judges had been si milarly nominated. Sir J. GRAHAM said that the appointment of these Judges was equally objectionable, and ought decidedly to be abolished. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that the objec tion arose from the Welch Judges having a seat in that House ; but, according to the Bill before them, the barris ters would not. The clause as amended was then passed. Clauses 8 and 9 were passed without amendment. Clause 10 was postponed. On the motion that clause 11, as amended, stand par' of the Bill, the House divided, when the numbers were— For the motion Against it Majority The clause was then agreed to. Clause 12 was also agreed to with some verbal amend ments. Clauses 13 to 16, inclusive, were agreed to, with some verbal amendment. Clause 17 being put just when the hour of I 2 arrived, amidst cries of " Adjourn," and " Go on," Mr. BROTHER - TON rose to move the adjournment. He did not, in moving the adjournment of public business at twelve, act from any personal consideration. He thought that in so doinc , he was consulting, n o t on ly th e conve nience and the health of Members themselves, but also the public interests. Mr. WARBURTON said the understanding of the was, that no new business should be entered upon after twelve. Colonel SIBTHORP said, if the Member for Salford had the least hesitation in moving the adjournment, he himself would do it.—(Loud cries of " Divide," " Adjourn," and " Go on.") Mr. AGLIONBY thought that the public business should not be thus interrupted at the whim of any particu lar Member. Mr. PRAED said this was a highly important Bill, and time ought to be given for full consideration of the clauses. The Member for Salford often moved an adjournment of any important debate, if a new speaker rose after twelve. The CHAIRMAN then put the question that—l now report progress, and ask leave to sit again. The House then divided, when there appeared— Ayes 25 Noes 39 Majority against the adjournment —l4 During the exclusion of strangers, Colonel SIBTHORP moved the same question. Mr. SHAW said he would support the motion. Sir J. HOBHOUSE said the understanding was that no new business should be entered upon after twelve. Mr. WALLACE said the Hon. Member for the Uni versity of Dublin himself spoke frequently fifteen or twenty times after twelve. For his part he never did and never should adhere to the rule of adjourning at that hour. He must remind the Hon. Member for_the University of Dublin, that while that Hon. Member was absent in Dub lin in the discharge of his duty, he (Mr. Wallace) and others must be in that House at all times during the session. It might be very convenient for Hon. Members to concur in a motion for adjournment who were not in their places all day, watching the public business. Mr. SHAW did not recollect that he had ever moved an adjournment of the House. If he was occasionally ab sent in the discharge of a public duty in Dublin, that was a matter for the consideration of his constituents, and not of the Hon. Member (Mr. Wallace.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that it was quite clear the result of a desultory conversa tion, such as had been carried on, would be to impede the public business. Now, he proposed that those parts of the Bill which were not to be opposed should be suffered to pass through the Committee, while those might be reserved on which a discussion was likely to take place. Mr. G. F. YOUNG said he would vote for the adjourn ment of the House. The public business was most unsa tisfactorily conducted by its being carried on to such late hours. Besides which, no human constitution could stand the fatigue. He thought no object whatever could be gained by going on with the Bill at that late hour of the night.—( Hear.) The House then divided. On the gallery being opened there appeared— For the Motion 3O Against it Majority . -53 The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER again suggested that the controverted clauses should be post poned, and the unopposed clauses taken. If that propo sition were not acceded to by the other side of the House, they might justify their conduct as well as they could to the country. _ _ _ Colonel PERCEVAL said that must of those Hon. Members on his side, to whom they were accustomed to look up, had left the House, on the understanding that no business of importance was to have taken place after twelve o'clock. Under these circtetances, therefore, he did not feel himself justified in allowing the Bill to go fur ther, notwithstanding the assertions made by the other side. Sir J. C. HOBHOUSE wished to know why did the Right Hon. Members to whom the Hon. and Gallant Officer had alluded leave the House ? But though they left the House, they had left behind them those who un derstood the details of the measure in all their parts—the Hon. Member for Yarmouth, the Hon. Member for Ox ford, and the Hon. and Gallant Member for Lincoln.— (A loud laugh from Colonel Sibthorp.) He (Sir J. C. Hob house) did not know the meaning of the Hon. and Gallant Member, but there was an old saying, which he recollected, that. " there was nothing so foolish as a foolish laugh." Colonel SIBTHORP (who spoke almost inaudibly) bad often heard language pass in that House which would not be reileaied b'u't of it.—(Cries of "Speak up.") If the Right Hon. Oenticnian Meant anything personally offensive to him—(Laughter-- iii / the Right Hon. Gentle man to be explicit. He asked hini itbether he meant any personal offence to him in his observations ?--The Hon. and Gallant Member then left the House.) After Ott few war& from Mr. MACLEAN,— Sir J. C. HOBHO USE' rose, and begged to state in the most explicit manner that lie made no personal allusion to the Hon, and Gallant Member for LineOln calculated to hurt his feelings or wound his sensibility, Mr. WASOH suggested that forty Members should put down their names to sit as volunteers until seven in the morning, Mr. BARHAM hoped his side of the House would not be deterred from doing its duty.—(Great confusion, uproar, and outcry on the Ministerial benches, which drowned the Hon, Member's observations.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that if Hon. Gentlemen on the other side of the House were determined that the Dill should proceed no further they had it in their power to prevent its progress. The real object of the Government was to carry the Bill throu r gh the House, and not to oppose the adjournment. He should therefore move that the Chairman be ordered to report progress, and ask leave to sit again. The Speaker then resumed the chair. Mr. BERNAL, in reporting progress, stated to the House that certain words had passed between the Right Hon. Member for Nottingham and the lion. Member for Lincoln, which, as they were likely to lead to ulterior con sequences, he considered it his duty also to report to the chair. It was for the Speaker to do as he choose in the matter. The SPEAKER inquired if the Hon. Members were in the House ?—(Cries of no—let them alone ; let them do as they like.) Mr. H. GRATTAN had not heard anything fall from the Right Honourable Baronet the Member for Notting ham, which could offend any man in his senses.—(Hear, hear, and laughter.) Mr. F. FRENCH said, that nothing had fallen from either Honourable Members, which was incapable of being satisfactorily explained, in the manner in use among Gen tlemen.7-(Hear.) _ _ _ Mr. R. WASON thought that both Honourable Mem bers should be ordered to attend in their places in the House.—(Hear, and laughter.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that the Hon. Members should be ordered to attend in their places in the House. By that means they would be brought under its jurisdiction. The SPEAKER then put the question that Sir John C. Hobhouse and Colonel Sibthorp be ordered to attend in their places in the House.—(Cries of hear, and no, with much laughter.) During the interval which elapsed between the order to require the two Honourable Members to attend in their places, the remaining Orders of the Day were gone through. Mr. WALLACE gave notice that he should this day move that in future divisions, in Committees of the whole House, be taken in the lobbies, as divisions of the House are taken. The SPEAKER then said that as the Hon. and Gal lant Member for Lincoln was now in his place, it became his duty to say that it had been reported to the House that certain words had passed during a discussion in Committee which were liable to be misapprehended, and which, in deed, had been misapprehended, by the Hon. and Gallant Member. He also felt himself bound to call on the Hon. and Gallant Member to say whether any such feeling still existed in his mind. Colonel SI BTHORP said that he had no hesitation in say ing that he did still entertain such feeling, and that he must still continue to entertain it until he heard from the Right Hon. the President of the Board of Controul a disavowal of the expression to which he had referred. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER wished to say a few words on the subject, as it had occurred not when the Speaker was in the Chair, but in Committee ; and in what he was about to say he would wi s h t o p u t as id e , as it were, the Hon. and Gallant Member himself, and appeal to his personal and political friends around him. The fact was, that a laugh occurred occurred during the speech of the Right Hon. Baronet, on the opposite side of the House, and his Right Hon. Friend applied to the circumstance a Latin quotation, which he translated that " there were few things more silly than a silly laugh."—(Hear.) Now, he put it to any man whether there was the slightest cause for personal offence in this.—(Hear, hear.) He was him self often one of the laughers on that (the Ministerial) side of the House, and he certainly would be the last to con sider a laugh under such circumstances a personal matter. —(Hear, hear.). The Hon. and Gallant Member had de prived the Right Hon. Gentleman of the opportunity of making the desired explanation in his presence, for he left the House immediately ; but when the Right Hon. Gen tleman did explain, he said most distinctly that he had not meant to give offence.—( Hear, hear.) He hoped, under these circumstances, that the Hon. and Gallant Member would put an end to the matter by at once saying that he was satisfied. Mr. EATON said that at the request of the Hon. Member for Lincoln he had had a communication with the Rihgt Hon. Baronet, who had authorised him to state that no personal insult had been intended. The SPEAKER here called on the Hon. Member for Lincoln. Colonel SIBTHORP (who was almost wholly inau dible in the gallery), was understood to say that he had acted, on the present occasion, in accordance with those principles which had actuated him from his earliest life ; and that he would rather at once vacate his seat in that House, than put up with anything that he considered an insult.—(Hear, hear.) As, however, the Right Honour able Gentleman said that no insult had been intended, he was satisfied.—(Cheers.) _ _ The SPEAKER then said that here the matter was at an end. The House then adjourned at Half-past One. HOUSE OF LORDS, JuNB 16. The House was occupied from 3 till 5 o'clock in hear• ing evidence upon the Stafford Disfranchisement Bill. IRISH MUNICIPAL CORPORATION. Lord GREY presented a petition from Newcastle, agreed to at a public meeting, signed by the Mayor in favour of the Irish Municipal Corporation , Bill as passed by the Commons, and praying their Lordships to re-con sider their amendments to that Bill. CHURCH-RATES. Lord DACRE presented a petition from some place in Essex against Church-rates. LONDON GRAND JUNCTION RAILWAY. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY presented three petitions from merchants and traders in favour of the Lon don Grand Junction Railway. The Duke of RICHMOND would take that oppor tunity of calling the attention of the House, more particu larly the attention of his Noble Friend who was the chairman of the Committee, to the Bill that stood for a third reading that evening. His object was this; it was well known there were employed upon many railroads, passing through local districts, locomotive engines. He was anxious their Lord ships should be assured there was no danger in those en• gines passing through crowded towns. One engineer before the Committee stated there would be no danger if five wire screens were placed over the engine ; and another engineer had stated he thought there would be no danger ; but he considered the House ought to have the best evi dence, by which they would he assured that there really would be no danger. He thought the best way would b e to postpone the tird reading, in order that a Select Com mittee might be appointed, before which more accurate in formation might be obtained. Lord KENYON said that if their Lordships thought sufficient information had not been obtained, he should not resist further inquiry or investigation to remove any alarm that might exist of this nature, pointed out by the Noble Duke. The Duke of RICHMOND thought there ought to be a more extended enquiry ; and gave notice that he should before the rising of the House move for a Select Committee. LONDON, BIRMINGHAM, BRISTOL, AND THAMES JUNCTION RAILWAY.. The Marquis of CLA NRICARDE moved the third reading of this Bill. The Duke of WELLINGTON rose to move the in sertion of a clause of which he had given notice on a former occasion. Parliament should have time to consider these measures, and to make regulations, in order to render them efficient to the public, and to prevent their becoming mo nopolies to the great injury of private property, and the ruin of individuals living under the protection of the Government. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE objected to the clause, not only with respect to the particular Bill be fore the House, but as to other Bills. His first objec tion to it was, that he thought it was manifestly unjust ; it ought not to be made retrospective as to those Bills, and it would be inconvenient to bind Parliament to an indefinite advance in legislation. If this clause were adopted, railroads would be put a stop to altogether. There was a great mass of capital in the country which must be employed, and if it were not employed here it would be abroad. Their Lordships should be cautious before they offered any discouragement to s p e culative industry.—(Hear, hear.) H e th oug ht it would be very unfair to those partie s w h o h a d en t ere d into contracts , and incurred very great expense, to impose upon them a condi tion which they were not aware of, before they had in curred so many he av y o bli ga ti o ns. For these reasons , he objected to the clause. Lord MANSFIELD did not altogether approve of this clause. Th e i n t eres t the public had in these railways had not yet been brought before the House. The p ar ti es petitioned for Parliamentary protection, and a monopoly, on be corn wo uld never the t the ground of its being a benefi t to the p ublic. He was atratu many of these projected ra ilwa y s pleted, which would be a g reat detrimentoh es public, and the proprietors of la nd g enerally. It was, etrhe fore, necessary that some security should be given to public, that the lines would not, o nly be completed, b ut would be maintained, at whate ver loss that might be to the sliNtaholders. That could on l y be carried into effect byetr making the shareholders liable to a s um la,er than th subscriptions. Lord HATHERTON submitted tha t the H ouse could not with justice insert such a clause in the Bills now , on the table. The measure ought to be moved in the shape of a Standing Order, saying that no Bill should. be read a third time without such a clause. Thiit would afford the come parties notice of the obligations they were to under. There was no precedent, e ither in that ort in the other House, for such a step being ...taken, a such a time.—(Hear, hear.) The usual course was/ to give notice of an alteration of the Stantling at the end of a Session, by which parties were 11 1: r e aware of what alterations were to take place. Ile could not agree with the statements that. . had be.? made respecting railways ; he could not think that ran' ways would ever become monopolies ; he could See no difference between them and canals. About seventy Order or eighty years ago, when canals were first formed, they were denounced in loud terms as monopolies, but !!•- perience had proved that they were utterly unfounded. He remembered the Grand Junction Canal being declared It monopoly ; its fifty pound shares were then selling 11 ' 6001. There was no doubt whatever that the profits viers good ; but the fact was, that subsequently t o -the ca Wei —capital being then in great abundance—a nevv vos cut, and then a railroad established , so that there were three lines and no monopoly. In 20 years there would be as little signs of monopoly in railroads. In 1825, when the Liverpool Bill was under consideration of the House, he lememberediLat Mr, Huskisson thought it expedient either to limit the tern; of the duration of the Bill or to re r strict the dividends.---(Liear, hear, bear.) He•had grel objections to the first course, and took the latter, we', knowing that it could never be carried into effect, but by that means he conciliated the opposition, and got the Bill. He suggested that it would be better to p ost p one the Bills for another year rather than Introduce such a clause as that proposed by the Noble Duke. If such a clause were introduced, it would lose to the country many of the advantages which would be derived to the public from future improvements, and the lowering of tolls, and particularlY after the parties had expended 20 or 30,000/. in earrY i l 'a Bill through its various stages , on the faith that the ir . rights would be protected. On these grounds he th ought such a clause would be mostinjudicious. The Earl of WICKLOW also objected to the clause' It was a breach of faith to the subscribers of those railwaY s who had paid their money upon the faith of existing ler' At all events the clause should not have a retrospective effect. The Duke of WELLINGTON dofended the claus e ' on The Noble Lord opposite (Hatherton) ILO sugges ted postponement of these Bills for a year, until the, considers tioa of their Lordships had been applied to them ; was th e very object of his (the Duke of Wellington's) p.ropositio.a. He did not wish that any obstacle should be tr1 e ,. 1 , 1 : their way, but he was anxious that the interests or " public should be protected. Lord ASHBURTON said that the question appeared to him to be one of considerable embarrassment. , Bills had certainly gone through the different forms w hie, Parliament required, and they stood now for a thir d reaa ing. Nobody could for a moment doubt the right of Dr liament to interfere, even at the very last stage ; for the parties could not be said to have any Parliamentary .nr, equitable pledge until the Bill had gone through the tlur? reading. Now the Bills appeared to him to stand in thlea position : that Parliament having gone rather with ra ilroa speed into these matters the Ho use of Commons began d doubt whether the public was suiqciently protected , an,. • now expected the other House to consider the s ub j e . c That House had not yet had time to enter upon any in need, He would suggest that a Committee s hould be appointed t=on, certainly without w leaving e itb better e b r e t bandied ar o d o i k e d at a t b h o which he had no doubt would satisfactorily' settle th e ° es- It e ut cas t ; a Committee, which need not sit more than eight o r tea days, and to let the parties know as speedily as Poss.:hie till terms on which they would be permitted to engage ill s ee enterprises. at next l e e a b r . ; Lord KENYON said that he thought it would be e!; tremely unjust to interfere with those railroads which had already received the sanction of Parliament. In the eas e of the Bill now before the House, he hoped their Le r :i ships would consider the expense to which the partie s h been put by merely coming to the House, and relying 110 1 that degree of kindness and those privileges which ha hitherto been extended to their predecessors. He, there' fore, trusted that the House would not give the PrFti-est cause to regret the confidence which they had p laced in con- With respect to the general question, he entertain ed siderable doubt ; but lie was most decidedly a opinionse that, if any impediments were thrown in the way-of the rail' roads, the result would be most detrimental to the mann' facturing interests of the country. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that he was dy sirous, before the House proceeded further, to state th e grounds upon which he felt inclined not to offer an y opPa' sition to the motion of the Noble Duke. He (the Mar quis of Lansdowne) did not understand that the N ei° Duke wished to prejudge so much of the question, as to apply it to those Bills which had now passed into la: but what the Noble Duke did prejudge was the ep. ' nion that, whenever it might be expedient to ante fere, the right of Parliament should be recognised. P.c. would freely confess that he did not grudge to the exist:22.h' undertakings whiz+ had been the subject of law, and had been carried into effect, any advantages they mighthBL derived from that peeference. He considered them P.'" neers of science and of public utility, who necessarily ke' curred more risk than those who followed in their wa and reaped the benefit of their experience ; and, ther efor b e t: he did not grudge to the many comparative differences in t state of the law between their undertakings and subseq ueu f ones. The words of the resolution that he was desirous seeing omitted were, " With a view to the advantegieci protection, and security of the public." It cetainlY e n v not have been the intention of the Noble Duke o the possibility of these words being interpreted, out o f the House, so as tocreate a larm a bout to amongst persons enter these undertakings. In concluding, the Noble 0.". t quis would again put it to the Noble Duke whether e would not be better to omit the words to which he h referred. in The Duke of WELLINGTON entirely agr eed what had fallen from the N o bl e Marquis, and he certainf bile o w was of opinion that the qu es ti on was entirely f a P u r h a ure —'H, ar, , hear.) He would nor, with the ,ern s sion of the House, w ithd raw hi s mo ti on , for the PeZP ° bi: of amending it accor di ng t o th e suggestion of the I .` e Marquis. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that it' the oula clause The were agreed to, it should be understood that it it icsnted in all other Bills of this kind. •t 60 0 Lord W HARNCLIFFE said that he bad no h e ' a d ov in declaring that if any limitation of ti m e were ia the parties before the House, it would be a very great hco justice. He trusted that the ti me wo uld soon conic ld some general regulations respecting these measures woo be passed. • ed The Earl of WINCHILSEA was exceedingly b e t to the Noble Duke for having brought the question ors the House. He sincerely hoped that the House s•ethe agree to the proposition of the Noble Duke, a nd at. en d same time agree to the proposition of his Noble Fr i nd ,. for the appointment of a Committee to consider the eta' ing orders of the House. curr ed The Marquis of LONDONDERRY entirely cone ‘4 in what had fallen from the Noble Duke. He tho.ugra that the House had a very strong argument before it 10 the shape of the Bill now before the Hunse— t h a t W un der the London Grand Junction Railway, wbich Was metro stood to continue the line from Birmingham to the hea rt polis, which stopped at Camden Town , into the very ing .. of the city. The Bill establishing the line fromnir.ll/ • e nio n ° ham had been passed some time, and if the Bill coou, the line were also passed, then the House would be;e,,f sating on two different principles with respect to o ne 1,01- Li i d road. He therefore thought that the Legislature nc' con adopt some mode for making general regula tions to co all schemes of this nature. t h a t neon The Marquis of SALISBURY gave notice, Corn , early day, he should move the appointment of r _„.., mittee, for the purpose of considering in what. ina nne b r u t e gulations might best b e introduced to p rotect the P t ' 0 s from imposition through these plans, which were numerous. hiPS The Duke of RICHMOND said the ir Lords should remember that parties had been put to it pens es in forwarding thes e Bills, and he did n ot thin right for that House in t h a t stage to present new d g geld tios, and throw fresh obstacles in their way. He she& vote for the moti on o f th e Noble Marquis (Clanriear and he should a t th e - same time declare his intention Of supporting the motion for a Committee Lord ELLENBOROUGH said . Noble Lords 01 3 ` peared to have forgotteu that in all of th ese cases there were two parties ; they considered only the interests of the _ speculators—(Hear, hear, bear) —and forgot those, vino, dissented. And when their Lordships were asked to g r u n t a great boon—why, undoubtedly in th ose cases.in whichto all parties were consenting, it migh t be a great boon t . consent to pass these Bills ; but what became of ht.,e dissentients ?—(Hear.) Did they not frequently, by gra'? ing a great boon to the speculato rs, inflict the greatesttri; jury and detriment upon those who dissented from . scheme ? In behalf, then , of the interests of those parties , • and the public, he should acquiesce in the motion of the 7 % = Y THE SUN .4,1207 ON, PRIDA.V. JUNE 17 4 183 g. I