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.TRIAL PARLIAMENT. ROUSE OF PEERS. VRIDAN, JUNE 10. .. 'the. House met• at ten o'clock, and proceeded till cast three in the Roxburgh Appeal, " Ker .lanes." Mr. GiJlies was heard in reply, and Mr. clerk partly in reply.—Further hearing to-morrow, The House then proceeded in Massey's Divorce 3111. Witnesses were examined to prove the fad of tdultery. The Bill was raid a second tale, and :oturuitted for to-morrow. The Orders in Council Warehousing Bill, and he Irish Glebe Houses Bill passed though COM nittees, aud were reported. Adjournad till - to•morrow (this day). HOUSE OF COMMONS. pu.DAY, JUNB IQ. - . Mr. CAMPBELL presented a Petition .from fl the Fpeeholders in Durnbartopshire, in favour of the Dithillation from Sugqr. MESSAGE FROM HIS MAIESTY. Mr. Secrerary CANNING presented a Message From.Ois Majesty, which was read from the Chair is tbliows : " Groitcs R.. - . Hit hlajesly thinks it proper to acquaint the House of Commons; that he has entered into a Treaty of Alliahce and Subsidy with hit Sicilian lk i lajesty, a Copy of which he has sraterettto be laid ~balora the Patliarnent i and his Majesty trusts that his faithful Commons will adopt such measures ss shall,enahle his Majesty to make good the engagements ;untained therein." On the motion of Mr. Secretary CANNING, his Majesty's Message was referred to the Committee of Sttpplyon Monday. Mr, Secretary CANNING took this opportunity of stating, that the Treaty was, according to custom, printed, and ready to be-delivered to the Members in the course of this evening. The amount of the Subsidy was 300,0001. per annum, The °We& was to enable his Sicilian Majesty to mate more effeplual pro Vision for . the defence of Sicily. This was no new measure. It was in the contemplation of the late Adininiitration, ever since the commencement of the War between Sicily and Fiance, in 1805. The events which had occurred in that year prevented the katiiiiition of his Majesty's Government froin be ing fixed to that objed. In 1806, the consideration of this measure was renewed, and Mr. Drummond was sent to Sicily to conclude a Titity, but not till late in the year.' In the year 1807, a Treaty con eluded byplr. Drummond was sent to this Country, bat with some conditions which it was thought right to advise his Majesty .not - to agree to. The Treaty was sent back and krfecled without the exceptionable provisions; and'was now completed by bis Majesty cud submitted. to ParliaMent. This he tiaougnt it right to state, in order to shew that the ..Treaty was not a new measure, but long meditated and now completed.. The American Treaty Bill passed through Com. mince. The renewal was extended to one yea:. The report to be received on Monday; The Loan Bill was reported, and ordered to be read a third, time to-morrow. The House, in a COmmittee, gave leave to his 'Majesty in Council-to 'make regulations in the eon dutfot the Trade with the Cape of Good Hope. ,:• Lcave was giien to bring in a Bill for the Conti nuance of the Bounties on the Southern Whale Fishery._ Mr. Rose brought it a Bill for 'regulating the Trade with the Brazils. • .Read a first time, and or dered to be read a second time ou Monday. The; Paddington Coal Bill went through a Com mittee. The Report to be received to-morrow. Mr. HusKiiirsoN brought 'in the' new ExChequer Bills Bill.---Head a first time, and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow. 'The Scotch Clergy Bill was read a 'third time, and passed. ' • Mr. SnitatDAN presented Petitions from Messrs. Dixo►; and Grey, complaining of undue confinement ih Ireland, and gave notice that he would, on 'Mon day, submit a motion, the objet of which would be to give a general relict in such cases. . St'AtlY, Mr. snzatnAta also gave notice that he would on that clay put certain questions to his Majesty's Mt ni4ters on the nature of the adv,ices lately received from Spain, tending to ascertain the state of that Country, and the conduit that this Country ought to pursue with reaped to it, and the. condo& his Majesty's Government meant to pursue. He did tiot mean to press for any improper disclosure, either with. respectto' Spain, or the measures to be adopted here, but merely to come to an understanding on general faas and principles. - • Sir Jottb! NEWPORT' gave qotiee that be would, earl)' in the neit Session, move for leave to bring in a Sill for the more equitable distribution between Laridlofd and Tenant of the large sums now levied by Grand Jury assessments in Ireland. PUItLICANV. LICENCES. Mr. SHERIDAN rose pursuant, o tptice, to move for leitve to bring in a Bill to aineud the Atis relating to LiCenee. His objeet was to make it obligatory en the Magistrates to assign a reason whenever they tt,olc away a liCence, or refused tv grant one. He adverted to the recent Meeting's of Members of both. Houses of Parliament, at the St. Alban's c o ff ee . h ous 'e, with a view to prevent the rise in the price Of I;osting; and the rpnedy . proposed by, the Mem ber for Sussex, by the refusal of 4,licence, on the part of the Magistrates, to any Innkeeper' raising the price of po.,ting. 'He-moved for leave to bring in a Bill to amend the 46 of the 32d of the King, on the stibjef.t.of Licences. , ' iMr. IluLLEß*said, it was evident there were many persons at the tneetingi at the St. Alban's Tavern, ;who not Metubeid of both Houseeof Parlia ment. 'for the Bight' Hon. Gentleman could have 14..ard' the statement lee had jut trade of his propo sition 014 from . the unfair understanding of a Post horie Master looking for the high prices.. What he had stated was, 'that the only mode of 'obtaining a tenielly 'wa.c,"' 'ondouragiiig competition. But' in ,cases of gross 'abuse in remote *places, where . there . urns no roots for competition, ;he alloWed he bug ieSted the propriety of the - Magistrates trilcing away Vie licenee, '9nd he cited thd'preeetlen't of a licence f4ii.eq away from an tanker tijlio charaeci a aeriell Ambassador, goln out of the country, .1501_ for a breakfast. It was fit the Magisirates should have such a discretion in eases of gross abuse, and to sub je6t them to assign reasons,. would be to subjeol them to the lash of the Court of Kings Bench, and the recovery of penalties by the criminal publican. The CRANCELL,OR of the Excueutmi deprecated the introdu&ion of a Bill of such moment to the morals of the people, and the constitutional rights of the Magistrates, it so late a period of the Session. After some fnrther conversation between Mr: Sheridan, who insisted on the necessity'Of legisla tive interference, and Mr. Hawkins Browne, Mr: Giddy, Mr. M. A. Taylor, and Mr., Rose, who de precated that interference, and denied the necessity for it, Mr. Sheridan's motion wa s negatived.. • The SECRETARY at WAR brought in a Bill for the better regulation of the Audit of the Pay Of fi ce Accounts.—Read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow. On thessecond reading of the' Oxygen, Muriatic Acid Bill, Mr. FOSTER objeeled td the Restriction Duty - on the Importation of .Aeil of Irish Nlanufgture, as contrary to the Articles of Union.—This gave rise to , a conversation, in which Mr. Husittssosr admitted the force of t he Articles of Union in This case, but contended for the equit-; able right of the inventors of thin,compoiition, so useful in bleaching, to the exaluiive benefit of their Patent of Invention, which tbey could not enjoy if free importation was permitted from IrOand, whete salt, which, • with sulphur, :was„the principal in gredient, was not charged With the hVaVy duty It bore here. Sir JOH N,NEWPORT, Mr. FOSTER; and.air GEORGE HILL, adverted to a suspicion of the use of lime in the manufadure of the acid in this country, the effeet of which was to deteriorate the lineris in the bleach . - ing ; and even the very suspicion was enough to . prevent the sale. Lord A. HAMILTON defended the prodess of mak ing the acid in Great' Britain. Mr. PoNSONAy. deprecated Legislative interference in the present case. • He did not think it fair to rob Ireland of every advantage enjoyed . in any particular branch ortrade. Great delicacy was duel° the linen trade in Ireland at present, on account of - the defi4 ciency of seed-in the last spring, and thb consequent scanty' crop. Mr. VANSITTART recommended • a postponement till proper iniluiry should be made, before a violation of the Articles of 'Union should be attempted. The CHANCELLOR of Alta EXCHEQUE' consented to a postponement till next 4,essions, swith a yiew to inqiiiry and investigation. Su' t he contnded, that there maybe cases of detail not adverted to' in the general.compaet of the Union', which would reqUire a remedy in order to . prevent great injustice. He stated a case in which the Scotch Distiller Might port his Spirits into Ireland under. an alvatitage . Of, two shillings a gallon, which, unless some remedial provision should be made, would' be sufficienr to ruin the Irish Distiller in his own market. After ,some further explanations, the Bill was ordered to be read a second tirite this day two months. MILITARY INQUIRY. The CHANCELLOR of the EECHECLVER, in Conse quence of the interval that had - occurred between the expiration of the Military Inquiry Aet, and the passing of the Bill to continue , that Aa, found it necessary to call on the House ,to pass a Bill to le galize the proceedings of the Conuniasioners in that interval. The House would recollea_that the fiat Bill for the continuance of the Military Inquiry was mislaid in,the House of Lords, and that Chas the ori- ginal Ad expired before another could be passed.— He thought it right to make the-present Bill appli cable to all intervals between expiring ALI 4, and Aeks to continue them, passed in the same session. He moved for leave accordingly, Mr. PONSONBY remarked, that :the passing of a general Bill would require much consideration; as there would be great bar( . lship as well as great con. stitutional impropriety in thus continuing taxes and penalties. The CHANOBLLOR of the EXCHZQUER allowed that cases of such a nature ought to be excepted. Leave was given to bring in the . Lord BINNING, presented the second Repot 01 the West India Committee. • Mr. FosT4tt broUght in the Irish Loan Bill, which was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow. . „ Mr. FosTau gave notice, that he meant on Mon , day to bring forward 4 Proposition relative to the in , tercourse in Spirits between Great Britain and ire , land. . . Mr. Husictssobr obtained leave to bring in a Bil to regulate the Charges of Manazetnent of Stock re , deemed. - ' Mr; Hu SKISSON moved that the House should to morrow resolve itself into a Committee on the 46ts relating to the Post Office. The object was to tix the rates of Postage on Letters to and from t h e Brazils, between which Country and Great Britain' it was intt3ntled to establish Packets,. COFFEE, _On the. motion of the, Camicax.r.mrof the Ex- CIIIMIJUrt, it was.ordered that the Hbuso'shoold to morrow go into a Committee to consider of theAkols relating to Coffee. His intention was to propose in the Committee the repeal of the duty of 7id. per lb. in order to encourage the moderate: consumption .of Coffee. flut it was by no meana intended to give such an encouragement as would injure the consomp. tion of tea, which was of so much importance" to the, pevent 4 e, ancl hi, the interests of the last India ompany. LOCAL MILITIA BILL; . On the Motion.of Lord CASTLini!Og the Local Militia Bill was read a third true.• • Lord,CtsrLaaaaGit introduced a titupber of new clauses by way of riders. Four of these, supplying Omissions of the Bill, were read and ageed to-with- out observation. On the fifth being Avn , 4glit . .up, which went to confer on Magistrates the power of alloting, at their discretion, to persOnsgtvinA ititoren.t tion of iiffenCes. against the sai4 .- ikaP&.'pinl nul ex ceeding one third of the penalty On cdtifiaion, Mr. BAattAm objeaed to this rundEof introducing. newprovisions into a Bill, without.affordinj:;- any op. Porn - 414y' of duly considering then,. Mr. WisDnActi concurred in the opinion Of the 'Horiotirible,pentletnan; declaring that hp thought li Aire riders on one. limo. . W tpo many,. • pwever ion hi§ back nti4ht be, LORI CAIrTLEREAGIT stated, that all the clauses which he had hitherto proposed, contained notli:ng m )re than what was necessity to carry into effect , the provisions of the Bill. -Sir J. Netvroar thought this clause of much im portance, and thatit was of still greiter importat,cp, not to allow this new pradice of adding so much additional matter, without a possibility of ascertain ing its precise tendency. this' Amendment, but it was negatived without a division. • ~ :4 On the motion that the Bill do pass, Mr. WINDHAM contended tat the • Bill mug prove wholly inadequate to.the ohjeet which it had . in view ; ',while it would put the, country to an itn• Manse expence, not, less than two millions anntiallyt and for what ? to purchase weakness—for it would be purchasing weakness at that enormous stun, to be locking up men in corps, from which yon could not disengage them when the hour and danger of inva• sion came upon us ; yet it was among the first ob jetas of the measure to avert the danger of invasion, and could any man of sensiexPea that it could ever be averted by such means ? , - • Sir FRANCIS Stumm endeavoured to shew, that Instead of being a Bill for the defence of the Coon' try, it was rather a Bill of pains and penalties on the _people. • • The SaCRNTARY at WAR defended the system pursued in the British Army, against the lamina lions and charges of the Hon. Baronet ; and asked how• an army could be kept together or be harmless without enforcing discipline. Was not the necessity of discipline manifested by the experience of all 41 1- ilOll5 and of all times ? The House divided. Por•the clause • . Against it - - Is Majority -46 . , - - Several other Clauses were introduce d by Lord CASTLEREAGH and agreed ID. - "Among thes4 were one enacting that nee conviation by a Deputy Lieu, tenant,- should be removed by certiorari into any of the superior Courts. On this Clauses short discus sion took place, in which. it was contended by Sir " A. Pigott anti Mr. Windham, That this was an un precedented regelation; and by fiord Castlereagh i;nd the Chancellor of the Excheyer,, that it was exa6tly,.. 4. similar tea provision in the old Militia 'Levis. ,-- - 1 Lord CASTLEREAGH then proposed a clause, em:- • pOwering the Lord Lieutenant the Sheri ff s, or three. Magistrates, to call rout the I:ocal.Militia for a cer . - lain number of days for the suppressioe of any riot . or tumult that might occur in .the 'country. The clause contained a provision, that the number .of days on which the Local Militia were employed in this service, should go to the diminution -of the term of their training for the year; 'and that.if that term should have preyiously been fulfilled,' that-th+y should then go to . the dimipution of-the eirin.oftile succeeding year. Ile observed, thatin„cascs of tu mult or riot, the Local Militia might be very use4dl - employed hefore a regular force could -arrive. On the motion for bringing up . this clause, ' • Sir F. BURDETT protested against it, and contend ed, that, like the Bill itself, it. was hostile to the whole spirit, of the• British Constitution. He con demned in the strongest language this new mode of legalizitig the bringing up of armed men to sup press riots, , declaring that the Constitution already • afforded sutficieni.means of effeCting that objet. Mr. WYNDHAM followed) on toe same side,• and ridiculed the idea of this being . an expeditious mode . of bringing an armed force to bear upon', any tumult oils meeting that might occur. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCLIEQURR defended the clause. If•any disturbance existed in the Coun try, to whom could the House entrust the power given by this clause more Safely than to the Magi. strates. •- , .• . ' - : Mr. WHITBREAD charaEterized . the dense ,al.,tt • - great innovation On the Constitetlinc - - Mr. D. GIDDY enied thatlit.was any innovation on the Coustituti ,_ • a f t Sir S. ,ROMILLY ntended, that as'it was a perfeal novelty, and involved in it most important principles, it ought not to be introduced by way of a rider to 71 Bia, but. ought to be brought forward in a separate form, and deliberately discussed. . . .. A division ensued : in favour of bringing up the Clause • 97 Against it - - - - . - . - - 30 - . Majority - - - -.47 ... The Clause was- then.. brought . up and read.--eOO the motion that it be agreed to, - - . • .. . Mr. WHITBREAD was desirous of proposing a modification, by which this obnoxious clause might be amended, it' this were,,tbe proper time to do so. The Stsattea informed, the Hon. ,GentleinaeAliat this was not the proper time. -•-. - - .. - • Mr.. SHERIDAN could not • conceive that any amendment could render this, cialise tolerable. ' It was one of the Most dire 4 infringements ,on the Constitution that, he had everknown.' - lis danger e , oes tendency could 'be equalled only by its absur dity. if it were thought advisisable to give to the Magistracy this power over the Local Militia, why s ' 'not give them the same, pOwer over the Volunteers,, over the Old Militia, or over the Regular Army . ? Nothing couk. be . more ridiculous than the present proposition. How would i; be possible to coiled the . 1 Local Miiitia for the purpbse - of suppressing a riot, and if oolleded, .how are they suddenly to procure their arms ) He prestimed,. that if a riot took-. place . . • on Saturday, the ,eotices for the Local Militia to ' assemble were to be affixed to the church doors on Sunday, and that eisriy on Monday morning they were to begin to set to work to .resiore traequislity. He gave the claesehis most decided oppOsitioe, Lord CasTegettaost statedmilat• this clause was literally 'copied from the Volunteer Ads, and as a cousiderable 'number of the . Volunteer Corps were likely' to:be:tome a Local Militia, it was: de'. .sirable to have the same provisioe_ applicable to t, N i t l - paper wasput to Press; 110 of f i c ia, :.0' . HEN t hi s u them in case of their being called out on this . • • •t. ng service. telligenee had reached Town . Iron . ) our Flee Mr. SHERIDAN, ill explanation, challenged the ._Cadiz; but a number of private accounts have been Noble Lord to produce any instance before the pre- received, which we thin, kit our duty sent till, in which the Army, or even Volunteers,. , • for the ir ' were placed at the disposal, by statute, oldie Civil our Readers, without pledging ourselves °core') Magistrate. . . . - • accuracy. It is stated,' that the Marquis Da S Mr, WINDHAM argued • against the - clause, be-' ' who ' - . '. . • - . p or togii , commands the S , )anisli 1 roops in cause the regular troops, 'in case of being called , • i • • ,C a use out to suppress it riot, aCted with a degree of can- ' declared his detertnitiation .to support the 'ant f tion which would not be exercised by an uudisci; of his Country ag ainst the: treacherous Invasi purred force.' ' - ' ' ',Ouste y the I.;:sclgli.:•.a.ud that -u rea -A r my belPg .. , • - Admiral Heavex explaiesd.• . - . - .:-- .' . ' ' ' d his ar ch Lord LOUYAINE, ME. M. MONTAGUE, and Sir similar ' sentiments, he had commence I s i s ' to . J. Oxpe supported the clause, which was .then read-• 'for the purpose nt giving .effedual ildisiance • o has aSetaand time; and, on the question that the clause. d o Embaig untrymen. • It is also stated that the be :read a t bird time, ' . entirelY r e : 01 '• • Mr. WHITBREAD proposed,' as an amendment, . . been taken off , at Oporto, . which was , , ~, • reent , • that the Magistrates, "or Deputy Lieutenants, call- risoned by Spanish Troops. BUONAPARTS IS 1 • . tá lay beta.. ing out the Local Militia in cases of riot, should eve ' r y ba' , i .,.. Spi n , exertion to pour , troops into .. not be Officers of such' Militia ; and alter a few . •. if the . determtnation of the People .1 ° r°'s t . observations from "Lord CASTLBRIZA9II and ' Mt.. ' WHITBREAD, the Amendment was negatived with- 'be as' to be. out a division. • t , :e . effUr ls Mr. SHERIDAN proposed; that some personal'eo-.L. w i . I lien,' it is, we have Huta - 4:61,N that thee. - general as we hare every reason evident that tice should be served upon the members of the Local Militia i when called out .on such occasions, befort'• '. ~ _. ,•. . • ,- . , i of •the cow, 11' b e c r o w ned , 'with ' inccesa., ,It is . Bettritai e ntertains- serious apprehens.ons , # Ihe hoi any penalty could attach ; . but that stiggestion•wae .. setacfences .of th is general Insurrecti on, are . over-e•tiled ; after which the Clause was added to the. . p ublished ltril' Bill by way of titter. • d 11 ' • he groon , . , . Several Amendments .were then proposed andi ing to raze eyerYVillage or Town to t • t of published the most ill fag) ous Prochitua ii ons,thre, 1n.c.10 to the. body of ,the Bill, but of ,an immate(ol. ; .wl)ich.aiwt,..irench blood should .be .she,..- r 'nature. On the clause diredink thanhe surplu4,4 ! 'p roc j a tlia amount or fines and penalties, over the amount :. - ma ' • f highe r of fines Paid into the Batik, abOuld be defra ed ' , ~ y out . at leatt they heve only . tended to raise to a still' airog Of the County rate, - • 1 Mr. W.. Wyl4int obje cted to that priwisiun, , .' Nation-, lig, ' tions' 'have hit h erto prodUced no etre& ° ):itch the indignation of the Spanish d 1 likely, to pioduce an injurious an 4 unequal efle6;": •, " •.- - - . and ruove4 an Amendment, to l ave out - t h e.wordi : 'siko i s k‘r:i,e.....j.s.4i f id Allies. . ~ - eit o as • the. Osurpei, W.hose.. arinies treacherously 't.;nter t " that 'a separate account- be kept of fines and pe- L , The•NobleS arid others v!' tialttes. bow short conversation took place upon . B - re ' fug.v.' .. ~ .. .. . ~ -.,- he viere' snip ., lllol3 , . _ A : Mr, WINDHAM explained'. The Hon. Mr. ROBINSON contended, that the dis cipline in the British Army . was milder than , in till army of any other country., The discipline in RUSSia and Prussia was severe to a proverb . ; and it wai w rll known that the stick ' was frequently employed in the gtonal.arrny. - - - 01 loud cry of No, ND on.. Gentleman could only-assure the House thet .I.vis heard so from persons who were witnessesof th e tad. Mr. V. WYNNE suppored the Bill. Mr. W. SMITH denied that. the stick %vas resorted to in the French army; it might perhaps have been so under the old regime ; but certain he was that such a prieticei.did not prevail at . present. Here , however, an Officer was known to strike the inv ,diers.—(4l cry oflro, No!), He knew it to be so, and therefore would repeat it ; he rejoiced, how' sever, that such a pradtice was now so loudly Co' demne4,.-and he was therefore glad to have it mend tinned, because the disapprobation now cxPre sse might tend to *correct the' praCtice for the future. General „MATHEW and 'General STEwitaT vindi cated ; the &trader of the British Of fi cers, as ais° did'Air. M. A. TAYLOR. Sir J. HALL and Admiral WIRVEY spoke in fa" your of the Bil Land reprobated the charges bro u g ht against the Officers of the,Briash Army. The trues/lon . was then urversally called for, a t ' d the 'House, div ided : Ayes A 104 Noes . xb • Majority for Ministers -78 The third reading of the S'ugar Distillery Bill WO, deferred` - till' Monday next ; and the (Apr ,Orders us the Day being disposed of, the Hotisl: adjouplod. three o clock this morning. • • r • Aftevisa— t Gottenburgh, t %Vaterford. Dut —2 Waterford. THE SUN. 0 0 ‘4 14 ROI* Dig& AUOlt• r ? L 0 N D 0 S, SATURDAY, tuna 11, 18013, Tuts morning a Mail fr`gm'Goltenburgh arrived the following are the only 'articles of - 41U:110 4. which it brings : GOTTINAURGH, JuNe 3.—Yesterday arri wad i here His Britannic Majesty's Ships the Brunisvio and Edgar ; at the same time a convoy from Lun a don, &c. reached this port. " The English Eipedition yet remains in 1101 ' boor. We have nu news to-Jay, of any particular import either from Finland or Norway." THE Kiakkes Danish 'Privateer, ,of 50 Men, 15 captured ,by His 'Majesty's Ship ifriadne, and seat into Leith ; fo - urteen of the Prilniteer's crew wer e absent, in prizes. The ;friadne has re-.'apture d Swedish Brig and sent her into Leith also, II I I ~~: