The Sun. — London, England, 1831-02-09 00:00:00

could not stand up and make some allowance for desperate men ? As a proof that the object of these poor people was only to destroy the machinery, which they believed devoted them to starvation, he stated, that when they went to break one of the thrashing ma chines of the lion. Member for Wiltshire, which W3' worked by the same stream which worked his mill, they did not—after they had destroyed the obnoxious machine —they did not touch the mill or the water-wheel. There fore, he repeated, i r, was perfectly evident that their object was not indiscriminate mischief; their hostility was merely against those machines which took labour from than:. Never, he observed, would he call a peaceable multitude a snob; hut an assemblage, he ;Mowed, there had been ;it Salisbury, and they were guilty of illegal acts. The ob ject they had in view, however, they had accompiished, and were going home—this was alter all violence had ceased--when, as they were passing through a narrow !me, this Hindon troop of yeomanry attacked them on either side, in two divisions , and c ut them to pieces in the most horrible manner, They drove them through the fields, and there one man was shot by them. The con duct of the labourers, be again said, was net to be justi fied; he was anxious to impress this his feeling upon the House; but he submitted that those men had been hardly dealt with, After the affray, many were seized upon, faint and wounded; they were pot into a waggon, and diiven on a cold night to tAisbury, a distance of yeomen!. however, refreshed them seventeen miles. The selves on the route, but no a , neseenwas paid to th e i r un fortunate prisoners. No M•.,C-7:4 of lint was given them to etaunch their wounds, no drop of water to moisten their parched lips. They art iveti in town in the middle of the t • two hours pasted before the gaolers and officers could be roused from sleep ; three hours before surgical assistance could be procured. He thought these circum stances ought to be laid before the House. Now it was curious to add, that very few of them were prosecuted. A Mill was shot by the yeomen, and an inquest was held upon the body. The verdict might be guessed from the fact that the fireman of the Jury was father of one of the cavalry. The verdict was justifiable homicide.—(Cries of " Oil, oh, oh !")—There was one other circumstance to which he wished to reer. A tenant of the Hon. Member for Westminster (Sir F. Burdett) in Wiltshire, was placed the most awful circumstances. A person who ought to have known better, a young man, was foolish enough to write a threatening letter to the person who was pro secuting his cousins. It was done in secret, and there fore the act was not justifiable ; for he said that the man who could deliberately sit down and write a threatening letter, or even an anonymous letter, was a coward.— (Hear, hear.)—Every day he received anonymous letters, threatening him with assassination on his way home over Westminster Bridge, for his attack upon the Pension List, but he treated them with the contempt they deserved. If they came post-paid, he threw them into the tire, if not, lie returned them to Sir F. Freeling, for the amusement of his clerks. He wished Government had treated such letters with the same contempt. The threatening letter thus written was preyed by a Bow-street officer to have been taken from a desk in the house of a man called Looker—the quality of the paper and the jagged edges of the sheet according per fectly with the paper which remained. Several farmers swore to Looker's writing, but acknowledged they had not seen him write for years: while, again, others, such as the schoolmaster and exciseman, who saw him frequently write on matters of business, swore the hand-writing was not his, nor like it ; and it was proved that his three sons sad other people had free access to the disk. Upon this, as iespectable and as well-dressed an old gentleman (for such i e might call him) as any in that House, was taken to Devizes gaol, and thence to Salisbury, where for nine nights he 1 ty in a cold damp room, with nothing for a co vering but cold damp straw. At last he was brought to his trial ; the Crown was the prosecutor ; and upon the evidenee ab eve stated, he was convicted, and sentenced to transportation for life, and the Judge, in passing sentence upon hie!, seemed to express regret that the altsraton in the law had prevented him from condemning him to the higher punishment. It was then that the Counsel for the defence stepped for ward, and produced the younger Looker in Court, who, as nearly as might be, wrote a similar letter, as regarded the expressions, in Court, and in a hand which was a once recognised to be the same. The father was acquit ted, and the son, on his own confession, on the exhibition of his own hand-wr;ting, was tried, condemned, and con victed to be transported for seven years. He saw the lad in gaol. He felt proud of having saved his venerable father; he had hoped that he would not be punished, but rather would he be banished for the seven years than pass one in the horrid gaol of Salisbury. He then asked what would be the consequence if, from fear, this boy had held back—or from a ssrdi4 wish to have his father sent out of the way that he might enjoy his property? How great would not have been the calamity ? As for the young man, he admitted his crime, but his subsequent conduct was glorious. He was doubtless guilty, but in pwient days, in Rome or Greece, or Sparta—(Loud laughter)—in Greece or in Athens—(Continued laughter) would have monuments erected to his memory and been crowned with evergreens—(Peals oflaughter)-- The House laughed ; but be attributed their laughter not to want of feeling, but to his own bad description. When the verdict had been given, the son at once came forward to sacrifice hi►nself in order to save his father.— He repeated that this was a subject for the historian, the poet, and the dramatic author.—(A laugh.)—He was sure that if the subject were well dramatised, and the escape of the father through the son's self-devotion were exhibited on the stage, they would produce a powerful tffect. Where was the heart that would not beat with sympathy for the pangs both must have suffered at such a moment? He appealed to that Hon. House whether that _ would not be the effect? He admitted that the people hai _ . assembled for the purposes of riot, and that one of them had struck a heavy blow with a hammer, but that blow was struck in retaliation. The man who struck it had been first struck with an iron-headed whip on the head, and, when pressed into a corner, and the blow from the whip was repeated, he turned on his pursuer, and struck a blow with a hammer which he held in his hand.— Unfortunately that blow took effect—it was a severe blow, and it knocked the person from his horse. He re peated that it was a dreadful blow, and was much to be de plored ; but he appealed to the House whether it was in the nature of an Englishman to suffer from the attack of another without retaliating ? It was impossible that any man should resist such an impulse. Indeed that had been the feeling of the prosecutors, for they never thought of corn :flitting the man for the assault, and therefore they com mitted him for the riot only; but the Attorney-General, in the exercise of his discretion, thought it was of a very serious nature, and recommended that the man should be prosecuted criminally. He was so prosecuted—the man was called on hastily fir his defence, and his Counsel came to the trial of the proseeuti , ,u quite unprepred for the defence. The man was found guilty, and actually left for execution. Tile case of I.thlt - wa very similar to tha, which he bad just noticed• That man Wa3 very poor, am had not the means of preparing a regular defence. When He was at Salisbury, he sent for the attorney, and when that person came, he received a paper from the poor man, who said, " that is my case." That paper contained, . . in fact, a confession of the whole circumstances. That confession was taken to the gaoler, who said that it was too long for him to read that day ; but he must keep it for that day or the next, and would then return it; he kept it for three days. Now he (Mr. Hunt) would ask the Attorney-General, who knew the laws, and the practice of the law, as well as any man, and was in clined to exercise them with humanity, what the gaoler could want with that confession, and to what use he could put it except to betray the prisoner ? He had stated that case in the proper quarter, to the Secretary of State for the Home Department, and that humane man, Viscount Mel bourne, had (as he believed) at once put a step to such a practice. If the prisoner had been put on his trial for high treason, the highest crime in the state, he could not have been treated in a severer manner; but he believed that practice wouH exist no longer, for no man of hums pity would longer sanction such a proceeding. When the Government became acquainted with these facts, lie be lieved they had had great wei7l4t in inducing the Minis ters to advise his M.ijesty to spare the lives of these men. The man who made the confession did not know the use to which it would be applied. In Spain, when a man made a confessi on t o t h e I nqu i s i t i on , h e kne w what would be its result ; but hure the man had made it under ver y different circumst ances . The confession was, in fact, a statement of the case made in the most unfavourable mann er for the prison er , f or that was the sort of state ment which Counsel, who were to defend them, always required, in order to be prepared worst pats of the case. He did not mean to sav that e Attorney- Gener al obtained ; bad made use of the confession tl the but for what put pose did the gaoler obtain this statement but to betray the man who made it ? However, tire was now put an end to, and he thanked th thjoPrae anent fur it. It would be his business on a future davern bring these proceedings befOre the House. The moymetnot it was made known to the Secretary of State, he de nounced it ; and he did the Government the justice to be.. lieve that the practice never had the sanction of their au thority. In asking that Honourable House to address his Majesty for a general amnesty and pardon for those men who were now about to be transported, he proposed to do it unequivocally and for the whole. He would not say that the Governmet were not justified in inking iA quiries, when any circumstances came to their knowledge, respecting any particular man, but he wished to put them on their guard against the means by which they came to the knowledge of these circumstances. There were many instances to show that the men selected for prosecution were men whose characters were obnoxious to the loyal Magistracy, not those who were thought to have had the most concern in the riots. There was a poor youth, with one leg, who had worked on his (Mr. Hones) farm, and who was among the men taken up. The tlenily of the poor youth applied to him to interfere, and from what be saw on that occasion, he was con vinced that men who were obnoxious from other cir eumstances where chiefly the accused on this occa. sion. There were seven men take❑ up at Hendon.— When he was told of this, and asked to interfere for them, the question he put was, whether any of the men were men of bad character ? One had been before a Ma gistrate, and all had been before Magistrates fin• poach ing. There were great game preserves in that neigh bourhood ; and such was the distress existing there, that no !man who was in a starving state could resist the temptatio❑ of becoming- a poacher. The wives of these inn assured him that their husbands had not been the leading men in the riots ; but they were selected as poachers. When he heard this he told them that if that was the case, there was no chance for them. He found that throughout the whole of the country these proceed logs had been instigated by the farmers. He believed that he himself had been accused to the Government of being an incendiary. He believed that an inquiry had been made, as it was the duty of the Government to make it, into the accusation, and he was exonerated from the ac cusation. Now he would tell the Government who were the greatest incendiaries in the country—the most deter mined, the most ruthless, were the broken• up farmers. One of these farmers came to him one day, and said Ire was going to Ilchester to be sworn in a special constable. That farmer said that he had rented a farm at 4001. a year, for three years together ; his stock failed. The landlord said he should not be pressed for his rent under such unfortu nate circumstances, and he was then induced to go on a little longer, and to borrow money from his friends, in order to get fresh stock—he purchased them, and went on with his farm, when, just as his harvest was getting in, the landlord came o❑ him for all the rent due, and forced him and his family out of the farm. That man spoke in contempt of being sworn in as a special con stable, and used the most violent language. That was the sort of man who was capable of any act of violence—he was driven to despair—he was worse than a common pau per, for he was suddenly reduced from a state of compara tive comfort to actual poverty. He (Mr. H.) found many of that sort of men in the country ; sad the general opi nion was—and Ire was most sorry to hear it—that nine tenths of the farmers were in a state of insolvency. Here was a state of the country for his Majesty's Ministers to contemplate ! Relief must he afforded ;it was impos sible that things could go on in this way. It was impos sible but a convulsion must ensue, if the people were driven to despair and left without the hope of redress. Every act of his life had been directed to prevent convulsion. Pie was not such a fool as not to know that he was so marked a man, that, if a convulsion took place, he could not hope to live over the first day.—(A laugh.) He was personally, therefore, as well as morally, interested in pre serving tranquiility.—(Hear.) He would tell the Govern ment, that if they granted the boon be now asked, or any portion of it, they would be conferring a great benefit on the country. The men now about to he removed were la bourers, and most of them among the best labourers in the country ; and when he told them that there was a scarcity of really good labourers in the country, Le thought they would be convinced that in recommending a pardon to these men, they would be doing an act that would hand down their names to posterity as benefactors of the country. He knew what obstacles the Ministers would have to con tend with in doing this. They would have to contend with rapacious landlords, who, in order that their high rents might not go down, would not suffer the farmers to raise the labourers' wages. He know this, and he was sorry for it ; but he feared also that there were others who were worse than these landlords. He was sorry to see, by the papers, that some of the Clergy were said to have com plained of the mercy shown to some of these men. He hoped that was not so. He hoped that in this country, where the beneficence of dispensing mercy was left to the Sovereign—(Hear, hear, hear,)—he knew it was left to the Sovereign, but then the Sovereign only exercised that prerogative by the advice of the Privy Council and the Ministers—he said that he hoped in this country there were no clergymen whatever who would dare to disapprove of an act of tnercy recommended by his Majesty'. Ministers, and he could assure those Ministers that if they did re commend that act of mercy, they would be honoured to the latest posterity. It was said that some of these men were not in extreme want.—(hear, hear.)—On that sub ject he would just mention what was the state of their wages ist the disturbed districts. He would state what were the allowances made by the overseers of the parish of Til bury. The allowance he should refer to was made on Nov. I, 1830, the last week before the riots began. J. Barrett, his wife and child, were allowed ss. a week. W. Sanger, who was prosecuted and acquitted, was allowed for himse and his wife Is. Gd. a week. The greatest misfortune that had ever happened to this country was the way in which the labourers were thus paid,—(Hear, hear, hear.) He had heard an Hon. Member eay yesterday, that the landed interest of the country paid all the poor rates. How could that be true ? The Hon. Gentleman who had settled the allowance he had just referred to, might himself give to his labourers a higher rate of wages, but the rate was settled by that Hon. Gentleman as Chairman of the Quarter Sessions for the county. These men were in work, ipit how did the parish make up the wages ? Why by the allowance of 21d. per day per head. In some eases they allowed less, not more than and in some only 2d. half a farthing a head. He appealed to the House and to the landed interest, to take some measure to remedy these dreadful evils, so that men might no longer be paid out of the poor rates, and thus be morally and politically de graded. Such a system drove men, who worked hard during the week, into despair and crime, and placed them in a situation more degrading, in some respects, that that of the unhappy slaves in the West Indies. When he (Mr. H.) had a farm, be never would employ any men who could not ear❑ enough to support their wives and families. His farm had been in the very next parish to that in which these riots took place, and he never paid any man less than 2s. 6d. a day. He asserted, that under the present system, the poor rates were ❑ot paid by the landed interest, but out of the wages of the labourer.— (Hear.) For proof that the land did not pay all the poor rates, he called on them to look at the parish in which he lived, the neighbouring parish of Christchurch. Let them see what were the rates in that parish, where there was not more land than was covered NVith houses. In many towns these rates were enormous, and were levied exclusively en houses and other property independent of the land. He urged the Alims , frs to aid him in attaining the object of his motion; for he repeated, that many of the best la bourers in the country were among the persons convicted, _ . and that in most of these cases there was no imputation on the character of the prisoners, except that they had been peachers. He believed th it the accursed Came Laws had been the great cause of the conviction of these men. If his motion were acceded to, it wou!d redound to the honour of that House, and would go far to secure the peaee of the country. He was sure it must be carried is his Majesty's Ministers concurred with him, for, notwith. standing - what some people were inclined to say out o! doors, the present Government had a majority in that House, and in this instance the Government and the ma- jority would be supported by the people. H e h ope d t h at they would think seriously of his proposition, and some of these men might yet be saved. He believed that there were numbers of these men who might be restored to society with the ututo,t confidence as to their future conduct, and that he might himself safely become bail for most of them. He knew that the Govern- ment would have a difficult part to play to satisfy the minds of all men. He knew that there were some who, for the purpos e of keeping up their rents, would not con sent that the wages of the labourer should be permitted to rise. He knew that such persons would advise the Go vernment not to listen to proposals of mercy. He would describe one of these men.—(" No, no.")—He would al lude to no one personally, so that there would be nothing but his description. There was a man who was for hang ing all the prisoners without distinction. That man was a farmer, aye, and a large and wealthy farmer ; he vas most violently disposed towards these poor men —but it was to be hoped that the Government would not listen to such a person. Twelve months ago lie called on a man i❑ Wiltshire, or perhaps it might he longer than that, it was just after the Catholic Relief Bill had passed. That person, who mixed Nvith the first society in Wiltshire, and who, by the bye, was always preaching up moderation to him, was at that moment just going out with his gun, and and he said, " If I could meet the Duke of Wellington or Peel, and my gun was loaded at the time, nothing should prevent me fro.n blowing out the brains of one with one barrel, and the brains of the other with the second."— (Hear.)—That was the sort of men whom the Government had to deal with. They would hang all because they would not allow wages to be raised. It had been said that there was a deficien c y of corn in the country. Ile denied it. lie never saw, at this time of the year, such a quan tity of corn as was now in the stack yards. Now that the thrashing machines had been put down, but smaller quantities of corn could get out at a time; but it would come gradually to market just as the demand for it arose, and in June or July, when corn generally rose, the rise would not he so great as it hal been heretofore. He stated this fact of the abundance of corn with much pleasure. It was true, perhaps, that the stacks made a finer appearance than was warranted by their real condition—that, in fact, there was a great deal of straw ; but still he believed that there was more good corn in the country now, than there had been at the same period during the list ten years. Ile thanked the House kindly for the full opportunity they had thus afforded him of expressing his opinion, and he should now conclude by moving, " That an humble Ad dress be presented to his Majesty, the King, from that Honourable House, prayin ! , that he would be pleased to grant a general pa r d on and ' amnesty to the unfortunate agriculturists, and other labourers, who had been tried and convicted before the late Special Commission." He asked the whole boon. It would he humane to grant it, and in speaking of the administration of justice, anti of the laws, he was sure that there would be no true peace in the country, unless the poor and the people at large were con vinced that the laws were administered in justice and mercy. Mr. HUME seconded the motion. Mr. G. LAMB and several other Hon. Members rose at the same moment, but they gave way, and the Hon. Gentleman then said, that on rising to answer the obser, vations the House had just heard, he should feel obliged to make some comments on the very circumstantial speech which the Hon. Member had just delivered. He was bound in the first instance to say, that that Hon. Member Lad in his speech fulfilled the declaration made at its com mencement, that he should respect that assembly in general, and treat all its Members with deference. He would, however, have the House consider that misrepresentations might not be less exaggerated, nor infianunatory state ments the less injurious, on account of the candid tone and the manner in which they were made. The Hon. Mem ber had professed his intention of avoiding everything per. sonal, but in one respect he had performed his promise, for from beginning to end, the speech, instead of beiog, an allusion to the nature of the subject, was nothing else but a relation of his own adventures in travelling through the country.—( Hear and laughter.)—The Hon. Member had appealed to him (Mr. Lamb) to know whether informa tion had not been given at the Home Office, accusing Mr. Hunt of being an incendiary ? He would answer that question by saying, that as far as his recollec tion went, no such direct information had been given, but there was little doubt, even from the sus picious of the Honourable Member himself, that rumours to that effect must have been in every body's mouth. The Honourable Member had said that he went into these disturbed districts for the purpose of his trade. He (Mr. L. ) was bound to believe the Hon. Member, though he displayed so much knowledge on the subject— knowledge which, if the Hon. Member possessed it before these occurrences, ought surely to have been communi cated to the Magistrates.—(Hear.)—However the Hon. Member had stated that his object in visiting that part of the country was peaceful, and he was bound to believe the Hon. Member. The only remark he would make was, that the Hon. Member was the most unlucky peaceful traveller that had ever travelled, for he blundered upon the successive tumults of three different counties.---(llear.) He would do what the lion. Member, in the pruriency of his description of the evils, had forgotten to do, namely to call the attention of the House to the nature of the mo tion—a motion that that House should address his Ma jesty on behalf of those who had been engaged in riot and tumult for the last three months. The Hon. Member called on that House to interfere with the prerogative of the Crown, vested in the Crown alone for the wisest pur poses, and always exercised with the happiest results.— (Hear.)—He did not mean to say that that House Lad not a right to address hls Majesty on such a subject— indeed he knew no case where that House Lad not the right to present an Address to the King ; but he thought . they would not resolve on exercising their right till a strong case of necessity was made out.—(Hear, hear.) Wtiat would be the situation in which they should place his Majesty—(Hear, hear)—if they went to the foot of the Throne with an Address of this kind, and thus pro claimed to the people that tkey had advised the King not to let these people suffer? 'They would by such an act take away the advantage of his Majesty's highest prerogative, and wrest from him the merit of that mercy which it was his highest pleasure to exerrise.—(Hear.) He asserted that the bare statement of the nature of the motion was suf ficient to induce the House not to listen to it. The Hon. Member had himself told them that the lenity with which a Magistrate of Kent had treated the first of these offenders had! , seen productive of much evil re , ult.—(Hear) It was to be feared that the lenity now requited by, the Hon. Member might, if conceded, operate with the same disadvantage, only to a greater extent. This was the fits time that they had had to regret a general spirit of dis affection among the agricultural labourers ; and were they then, after the offenders had been selected, and tried and convicted before the Judges of the land—tried, too, under circumstances of much lenity—to interfere in order to procure for them an extension of mercy? Were they to say to these people, "We began to treat you with lenity—we treat you so still ; and that is your encourage ment to future tumults and machine breaking." He wished to treat the Hon. Member with the respect which his conduct in that House deserved ; hut there was in his speech a tone of justification, not merely for machine breaking, but for the vengeance these people had taken, that was hardly prudent or proper; Le seemed, too, t o think that these persons deserved applause, because, in the act of gratifying their vengeance, they had spared a mill and a water-wheel. Was that to be considered a state of things that required the House to address his Majesty call ing on him to grant a large, a general, and an unex ampled pardon to men who had acted in this manner? The conciliatory part the Hon. Member had taken in theme tumults was so general and extensive, that he could not wonder his conduct had been the subject of some misre presentations. What was the state of Overton when the lion. Member was there? The farmers came out to him, and said, "We are in such a state, that we are ready to do anything—do you go to the people and do what you like on our behalf." The Hon. Member, on this, be came the mediator, and afterwards the guarantee of what he (Mr. L.) must call an illegal compact. The lion. Member tell the farmers to raise the wages, while he " cautioned the people at the same time not to commit an illegal act. Surely the becoming the guarantee for a com pact of any kind thus entered into, was contrary to the letter and to the policy of the law, and the Iron. Member had been mistaken in the course he then adopted. He (Mr. L.) now came to another point, which was of more serious importance. The Hon. Member, in the miscel. laneous oration which he had addressed to the House had chosen to attack the conduct of the Judges of the land._ Before he replied to that part of the Honourable Msm- bet's speech, he must protest almost as much against that House being made a Court of Appeal from the decisions of the Judges, as with respect to the prerogative of the Crown.---(Hear, hear, bear.)—He declared that if he was not convinced the Learned Judge in question tv.auld feel disappointed if he refused to answer that part of the Honourable Member's speech, he would not say one word about it. It was only in deference to what he believed to be the wish of that Learned Judge, that he now con- seated to refer to the case of Looker. That person was tried before Mr. Justice Alderson. The proof given was not of one letter, as the Honourable Member suppo,ed, but of three threatening letters, sent, as it wtta supposed, by Looker, to three persons of his neighbourhood, to pre-: vent them from prosecuting two of his nephews, who were indicted for machine-breaking. Four witnesses gave evidence that these letters were in the band-writing of the prisoner, and nine gave evidence that th,y were not. —( Hear, hear.)—The Judge, in summing up, took care to particularise the evidence of each witness, and the means he possessed of forming an opinion as to the prisoner's writing. Ile pointed out to them, that among the four, only one had seen the prisoner write once in ten years, and that another of them had been on bad terms with him. The Learned Judge then went to the other witnesses, tome of whom did not write at all, anYtWOof whom had acquired their knowledge of his writing by peeping over his shoulder. One or two others had not seen him write for years, and they gave contradictory tes timony ; but whit did the Judge tell the Jury? He said, that the evidence:to prove the letters were in the prisoner's hand-writing was so weak, that even if uncontradicteel, they could not rely. - on it ; but that, contradicted as it was, they must put it out of their minds altogether. But there was another circumstance which ha 4 not been ex __ plained. The three letters had been made out of one sheet of fisper—thc three pieces of paper exactly fitted each other, and tiitre was no proof that any one else had access to the desk whence it was taken. That circum stance was left to their consideration, and they, thinking it unexplained, were satisfied that it proved the guilt of the prisoner. He was of opinion that the verdict en the evi dence before the jury was right. After that verdict, the young man came forward—that young man for whom they were to erect statues, and crown hint with wreaths of evergreen. It was, indeed, a remarkable instance of filial gratitude. The Government, on being informed of the circumstances, at once sent down a pardon to the elder Looker. Then came the case of the younger Looker, who was convicted, and who, they were now told, was en titled to the mercy of the Crown. He would read one of the three letters whirls that young man had written Mr. Woodbine.•-If you goes to swear . ageinet any of the • rise lea men now in prison, you shall have your farm burnt ; and look out for yourself, or else your --- head and guts shall be cut out." Was that a man to whom the Government ought to show peculiar lenity ; or if an amnesty was to be granted, was not that the man who should be exempted from it ? The Hon. Member had related a story of a confession of one of the prisoners, and seemed to think that what he had done in that me had obtained for the prisoner the mercy of the Crown. He (Mr. L.) was sorry to say that the Hon. Member's communication had not had the effect he imagined. The snan experienced the mercy of the Crown, because he appeared to have inter fered, on several occasions, to prevent violence to persons and injury to property. That fact appeared to the Go vernment subsequent to his conviction, and the conse quence was that a mitigation of the sentence was awarded. He called on the House to defeat this motion, and be thought they would feel it was their duty to do so. The punish ment of transportation was a very mitigated punishment for the offences of these prisoners, Were these persons men who were to be called back into those scenes where they might see the devastation they had committed, and where, if they still entertained the same feelings as before, they would wander in a sense of triumphant impunity, after all their offences ? These turbulent spirits would take the vote of the House as a general amnesty—would go back in triumph to their companions, and sew fresh seeds of tumult and discontent. The Hon. Member for Preston had said that he had got into a mob, to which he was not accustomed ; but he afterwards corrected his phrase, and explained that by a mob be did not mean a peaceable assembly. He (Mr. G. Lamb) could, however, remind the Hon. Member of a time when they had stood on as open busting. together; when an Hon. Friend of his (now no more) had inadvertently termed the people there assembled a mob. He (Mr. G. Lamb) hoped, that as the Hon. Member had now found his way into the House he would keep away from mobs—as he had at length got into good company, that he would avoid bad : whether he represented Preston, or any other place, be would find that the House of Commons was a preferable place for delivering his opinions, and he for one should always be quite as ready to listen to the Hon. Member as any mob he had ever addressed.—(Hear.) Mr. BENETT would treat the Hou. Member for Preston with the respect due to every Hun. Gentleman in the House, but he could not help regretting that the Hon. gentleman bad not stated in his place what, according to the statements in the newspapers, he had said out of doors, in order that he (Mr. Benett) might have an opportunity of contradicting him. On his late triumphant entry into Loudon, the Hon. Member was reported to have said, that Mr. Benett, of Wiltshire, as Foreman of the Grand Jury, had acted as judge, jury, and witness, in his own cause, and that he had done all he could to hang the unfortunate men who had been goaded to excesses. Such was the assertion in the Times newspaper; and it was added, that the multitude had cried " shame !" as well they might, if he (Mr. Benett) had been guilty of such proceedings. He would now take leave to reply to these charges ; but, in the first place, he would remark, that the Hon. Mem ber for Preston had not quite fairly stated what had passed between them last night. When the question was put, he (Mr. Benett) had stated at once, and without hesitation, that the snob had been ex cited by the writings of Mr. Cobbett, and by the speeches of Mr. Hunt. He had said so last night, when appealed to by the Hon. Member, and he repeated it to-night, for it was his belief and conviction that the people had been so excited to commit the excesses, the con sequences of which they were now suffering.—(klear, hear.)—He feared he should be somewhat tedious, but he would do his best to bring a statement of the facts of the case into as short a compass as possible. The necessity of the case must be his excuse for the trouble he should give. Ele had received information from his bailiff, that great excitement prevailed in the part of the country in which he resided, and that nightly meetings, with drums, horns, and banners, were held within five miles of his dwelling. In consequence of these tidings he (Mr. Benett) had obtained leave of absence for three weeks, and within two hours after his arrival at his house is Wiltshire, at half-past seven in the morning he was awoke by his bailiff, who told him that there was a great riot at the other end of the parish—that the mob was about to attack a factory at Fonthill—that they were determined to destroy all threshing-machines, and among them those belonging to him (Mr. Benett). By about ten o'clock, after snaking some preliminary arrange ments, he reached the scene of action, and found that the threatened factory had been saved by the interference of a man belonging to it, and the aid of a fanner who rode at the bead of the mob, and had since absconded. Several threshing-machines had, however, been broken ; and when he stated to some persons that he would go to the mob, they warned him that he would most likely be mur dered. Nevertheless he was resolved to do his duty, and when he came up to the mob they might amount to about 500 or 600, led by two men with clubs, sticks, and sashes. Its knew one of those men, and they avowed that they meant to break all threshing-machines, and to raise wages to 2s. per day. He (Mr. Benett) had told the man whom he knew that he had already been in many scrapes, but that this was the worst affair in which he had ever been engaged. They refused to hear the King's Pro clamation, but nevertheless he (Mr. B.) explained it to diem, mentioning the reward of 50/. He had told them farther, that he would make no promises to men with arms in their hands—(Hear, hear)—but one—that one was, that if they would return to their homes and save that part of the country from the terror and disgrace of a riot, if anything were gained elsewhere by tumult, he would do his best to secure for them whatever was obtained in any other part of the kingdom. The mob abused him, and told him that he had come down from London to put them down, but that they were before•band with him. The fact was, that the overseer of his parish had betrayed a letter, mentioning on what day he (Mr. Benett) was to arrive in Wiltshire. That mob immediately went off, and others, perhaps a dozen parties in the whole, came by, whom he addressed, and should have persuaded about a hundred to quit the rioters, had they not been driven forward by others, and not allowed to follow the dictates of their own better judgments. When he threat ened to knock a man off his horse, some of the mob re plied, " We are not your men, we are Mr. H un t' s men —He then asked them if they had any hostility to bins, and they answered that they would not hurt a hair of his head ; but that they would break his machines, as well as those of his neighbours. He followed them to the next village, and saw them break two machines; fur remon strances were vain. He afterwards witnessed the destruc tion of a very large machine ; but he denisd that he fol lowed them, as had been imputed, for the purpose of ob taining evidence; his object was to save both the men and the machinery from destruction. At last the mob hid declared that they would proceed to his (Mr. Be. nett's) house, and one moan had then threatened to have his blood. He was satisfied that his barns might have been defended by twenty or thirty men, armed with good sticks : he had upwards of fifty man in his pay, and on the day of the riot only two were away, and they were drunk in a public-house. He had ridden at once to the mob, and said he should offer no forcible op position ; that he should resist singly ; that no•trick should be played ; and that not a single gun or pistol should be discharged at the assailants. He went away, and the rioters began breaking his machines. lie set spurs to his horse, but he was pursued by a shower of stones, and one struck him senseless. When he partially recovered, he found that he was on the ground, and wounded in the head : and, as his assailants were still around him, be drew a pistol from his pocket (the first time he had ever exhibited it), and threatened to shoot the first man who approached hire. He feared that his skull was fractured, and fancied that he put his fingers through the bone into his head. Ail soon as he could, he went to his house, and, with the assistance of four or five men, barricadoed it as well as lie could ; while the mob, by the toss of a halfpenny, decided that they would go on with the attack upon his machinery, instead of assaulting his house.—lie had had no time to send to Salisbury for assistance, and could do nothing but depend upon himself. After the rioters had departed, the Hon. Member for Salisbury (Mr. Wynd ham) had ridden up to his (Mr. Benett's) house, and asked him to tell him if he was dead.—(Hear, and laugh. ter.)—The lion. Member had inquired if he was alive ; and he (Mr. Benett) had replied in the affirmative.— (Hear, bear, and laughter.)—Mr. Wyndham informed him that the Mutton troop was near the spot, and what had subsequently occurred was nothing like the represen tation made by the Hon. Member for Preston. That lion. Gentleman had said, that having got the mob into a nar row lane, the troops had surrounded them, rind attacked them with the utmost violence and without mercy. The fact was, that the rioters had just finished breaking machine, and it was certainly necessary that they should go through a lane; but they had taken up their post in a large plantation, and he (Mr. Benett) had observed to Captain Wyndham, who commanded the troop, that they could not fight the mob, unless the mob chose to come out and fight them. It was then determined to divide the troop, sad the loters, as they, ought not in prudence to have done, quitted the wood, where horseaaen could not act, and from whence every man might have escaped, because be (Mr. Benett) could not find a single man on foot who had courage enough to accompany him into the plantation. There was an im mense multitude of men, armed with hatchets., sledge. hammers, stieka, and stones, and they commenced the attack upon the Hindon troop. He (Mr. Denett) had in vain attempted to read the Riot Act, and one half of the troop drove the mob back upon the other half who took them in rear, and dispersed them. The rioters again retreated into the wood, and the troop was withdrawn more than a hundred yards from it. Again the rioters might have escaped, fbr that part of the country was full of wood to afford them shelter ; how ever, they formed, and once more issued forth from the covert with an imposing front rank. He had ridden stp to them, and told them, that if they advanced or threw stones, the troops would be ordered to fire. Captain Wyndham appealed to him whether the ►men ought to fire? and he had replied, " For God's sake, do not fire, but at all events we must not let them conquer us." He was sure the House would believe him when he said—(Hear hear) — that the furious crowd advanced, armed with hatchets, hammers, bludgeons, and stones, and presented so formidable an appearance that he had told Captain Wyndham it was necessary to charge : a charge was made, and the contest lasted for about half an hour ; nothing but the coolness and conduct of the troops could have enabled forty-four men to defeat between five and six hundred rioters. He lamented as much as the Honourable Member for Pres ton that any man should have been injured ; one of the mob was killed by an individual belonging to the troop, who was surrounded by six or seven adversaries, and who did not draw his pistol until the last necessity. An inquest had been held upon the body ; but personally, he (Mr. Benett) knew nothing of the proceedings, farther than that the Coroner had asked him to show him some of the cartridges used by the yeomanry, in order that be might know the size of the balls. He had accordingly taken the Coroner into a room, and had shown him seve ral, from which it appeared that the belle were of various sizes, the men Laving been obliged to make their own cartridges at Salisbury. The Coroner had told him (Mr. I3enett) that the day after the verdict was given, three men had offered to perjure themselves upon the subject, by searing that the man was shot in one field, when, in fact, he was killed in another. The Honourable Member for Preston had complained that the men had been conveyed to Salisbury at night : they were sent off in two waggons, twenty-nine in number, and it was certainly dark before everything was over. The Hindon troop had received information that a rescue was to be attempted at a particular point, which rendered the utmost caution necessary. As to the hard ships the prisoners endured, he (Mr. Benett) could only say that if the commanding officer had had time to take refreshment, he would have taken care that the prisoners did not go without it. None of the men had once com plained of ill-treatment. He would now answer the charge—that he had been the Magistrate to commit the offenders. The fact was that no commitment was made out, and the prisoners were carried to Salisbury gaol for safe custody. In the whole there were 34 prisoners from this part of the country ; and as soon as he was able— that is to say, in four or five days—he had attended at Salisbury. In this interval he had obtained the characters of all the offenders, and he had entreated Lord Radnor, who presided, and the Magistrates, to discharge no lees than 21 men on their own bail. Previous good conduct was the only thing that had weighed with him in their favour. The next point of the Hon. Member for Preston was, that he (Mr. Benett) had sat a foreman of the Grand Jury. He had asked the Court to allow him to decline the office, as he was prosecutor in several cases ; but the answer was, that when his own cases came before the Grand Jury, he would know what course it became him to pursue. He had not presided, nor even been present in the room when his own cases were brought before the Grand Jury, and they occupied the first two days.— (Hear, beer.) It was impossible for him to contradict all that the Hon. Member for Preston had said against him, and through the Hon. Member all the newspapers in England during the last twenty-five years. His rea sons were best known to the Hon. Member himself; but he was happy that some charges carried with them their own refutation. One of these was the accusation that he (Mr. Benett) had given evidence to hang the culprits.— He had given no evidence on a capital charge; he was as anxious as the Hon. Member for Preston to alter the seve rity of our Criminal Law; and he felt so much repug nance on the point, that when he was required to prose cute two men who had assailed him with stones, and was told that the result of conviction might be the loss of life, he had refused, and the Attorney-General had allowed him to retire from a task so painful. No man had suf. fered death in consequence of any evidence he had given: he had identified only two nien, and they had been concerned only in a riot. The Hon. Gentleman had farther asserted, that he (Mr. Benett,) as Chairman of the Quarter Sessions, bad established some objectionable regu lation regarding the poor. The fact was, that he was not Chairman of the Quarter Sessions, and the regulation had been in force for the last 25 years. He bad been an acting Magistrate for the last two-and-thirty years, but during that whole psi iod he had not had more than five pauper complaints brought before him—neither had lie heard one word of complaint againt the regulation until the disturb ances began. He liked to speak what he thought to people's faces, and he had told the overseer, whom he had before mentioned, that he thought he and his uncle (who rented a large farm and had absconded) were the instigators of the whole riot. True it was that he could not bring home to them any facts to affect him seriouslr, but he was satisfied that the overseer and two or three others had been the originators of the disturbances. Those disturbances had had no connection with the state of the country, for when appealed to by him (Mr. Benett), the overseer had himself admitted, that for the lasi six years the peasantry had not been so well off as just before they committed the excesses. tie charged the overseer with being the instigator of the mob, because he had given no tice in church, that on the Thursday following a Vestry would be held for the purpose of raising parochial relief, and procuring an advance of wages. After this notice, he had sent men round the parish, telling the labourers that they were not to work on the Thursday, hut to attend the Vestry, and it was to this overseer that his (Mr. Benett's) bailiff had incautiously shown his letter. He had required the attendance of all men at the Vestry, that they might stand up for their rights, using the phrase, " Boys, it . . will be all your own way to-morrow." To tell the men to go to the Vestry, was only, in other wards telling them to go to the riot, and it was well known on the Tuesday before they broke out that disturbances were intended. So well was it understood that his bailiff had written to him on the subject, and his (Mr. Betaett's) family had received warning to quit his house if they wished to be safe. It was a curious fact, that nine-tenths of the riots in Wiltshire occurred on the same day, viz., the 25th of November. To show how inaccurately the Hon. Member for Preston was informed, be would refer to what he had said about .having gone to Hindon, when ail the wives of the men came round him and moved him to compassion. Mr. HUNT observed that he bad spoken of Aylesbury. Mr. BENETT continued—Of what occurred at Ayles bury be did not pretend to know anything—he only spoke of Hindon. As to the general character of the rioters, the Hon. Member had daVelt upon two cases, to show that the unhappy men were driven to despair by extreme necessity. It was undoubtedly true that selection had been used in the prosecutions : he (Mr. Benett) might have proceeded against forty others, but that he was influenced by the pre vious good characters of the men, and that the worst cha racters only were convicted. The two men pointed out by the Honourable Member were J. Barrett and W. Sanger ; and out of IS men prosecuted, only two were working for the parish. What were their characters? If the overseer had been asked, he knew what he would have said ; for he had sworn on oath that J. Barrett was a man of good character and an honest man ; and he persevered in this assertion on his cross-examination by Mr. Serjeant Wilde, although he well knew that he had been tried at Salisbury for housebreaking, when his own brother was transported; and that only a week before the disturbance he had been convicted in a penalty of ss. and 2s. expences for cut ting off the head of a tree. W. Sanger had b een brought up at his (Mr. penett's) place, and h a d worked for him some years, until he had committ e d an act of ex t re me dishonesty ; nevertheless, he h a d procured another place for him as gardener. Again he committed a felony, but still he (Mr. Bennett) recomm en d e d hi m to another situation.- , -(Cleeers and lau g ht er. ) After again offending. h To show that the offenderse was pu v pennyueep()n n he ali g ht ment i on the case o f a person of the name of M o l e h atch, who was a farmer, everyr ; thethat poor, roads, i e and was p a id at least a sh i ll i ng for earned. grocer, and cattle dealer, and sometimes paid sums cf 2001. or :3001. at a time in the course of his business. A wan who was a mason, with wages of JSs. per week, and 1757. in the Shaftesbury Savings' Bank, was another of the disturbers o f the peace, and he had drawn out 25/. to pay fees to C ounsel. In fact, in the wl,nle list of persons prosecut e d, w i t h the two exceptions he bad made, there was not on e w h o at the time of committing the crime was not earnin g for his fath er, and he had been very b usy i n destroying large wag e s. O n e was a blacksmith, worki ng iron work : he had broken a roller, which cost him (Mr. 13 nett) 16/, an i ron b r idge, waggon-wheels, a n d, i n sho r t, every thing that looked like i mprovement had been the object of attack. This blacksmith was the only man of goon' character who had been prosecuted. Only a few days before the 25th of November be had pre• rented a loyal petition from many of the parties engaged in the riots, and how it happened that they so soon be came offenders he could not explain, He did not think shat any agitators could hate excited them fence. The reason why he accused Mr. ing beeneat the bottom of the commotions one occasion, when he (Mr. Benett) had peaceable conduct of the agriculturists of Cobbett had said, in his Register, " Ah, know little what you are talking about : yul they are peaceable many days hence." So out, for their tranquillity continued only I days or a fortnight afterwards. He had, the lion. Member for Preston that he attri conduct of the labourers to his speeches al bett's writings. He was glad to meet tit, man (Mr. Hunt) in this place; lie had great good or evil, and great talents to direct trusted, therefore, that he would exert his good and permanent happiness of his counts Mr. Hunt went the riots began. Mr. Hie a place, and, of course, disturbances were was at such another place, and there distill panied him. The news was instantly r Hunt had come down by the mail, and was particular gentleman's house, and every body what would be the consequence. At he had never told the mob that their illegr were instigated by Mr. Cobbett and the Ho; Preston. He should not have spoken of Yeomanry if be had not held the rank corps ; they bad behaved with the utmos courage against a mob armed with hetet sticks, and indeed nd had run stones, andh awayadall, but antly he had dispersedyon bravery in that act than all his comrad , tsinly was not an experiment that lie (Mr. willingly have tried.—(Hear, hear.)—Thi man had said something about the ill-treatm, in gaol, but independent of the visiting Mag; Radnor, as humane a man as ever existed, • visitors, and he and Mr. Estcourt, the Char Quarter Sessions, had gone to the gaol en Sr to see that proper attention was paid to There had, therefore, been no want of yin Magistracy. It was asserted that proper att paid to the wounds received by the prisoners unfortunate affair ; for most unfortunate he eider it. Many unquestionably were wou for the conduct and presence of mind of Cat many lives would have been sacrificed. ordered not to fire until the list extremity, than nine had discharged their pieces. Cap' told his men to cut only at the hands of the . the consequence was, that ten or twelve had wounded. They rapidly recovered—not the shot dead—(Hear, and laughter)—but the surgeon had assured him that he never knew so speedily. The labourers had been ilia who suggested to them that the time was ri tion—that it was time for them to strike the was the language of those who put themeel of the mobs, and who urged on the mobs. it an unfair charge against the farmers that couragement to the violence of the rioter that in whatever instance they had been ins ply with the labourers, they were actuated of them took down their threshing-machine apprehension that, if they attempted to keep ing, their houses and farming stock would the incendiaries. But lie (Mr. Benett) ht to those apprehensions. He did not take (In machinery ; but neither did he allow any ni scented for the breaking of a machine whi had previously taken clown, because he the farmer himself had tacitly implied his cm struction.—(Hear.)—With respect to what of the conduct of the yeomanry, it should that they were all the eons of farmers, and in; have been unwilling that the work of destrn be allowed. The spirit in which the riote, expressed in language of this sort—" You permost logg enough —we shall be uppermone the labourers had now returned to peaceful they should again be excited by others. longer any outrage to be apprehended in his hood. He should go amongst the people dread of violence. He did not apprehend would again be flung at his head. Should burned, be had no feats that it would be people in his neighbourhood. When the place there, the riotous labourers themselves were no burners ; that the burnings were strangers. Persons were known to have travel the country in gigs, distributing inflammator his neighbourhood, two men of respectabl armed with pistols, mounted on fine horses— , black the other on a sorrel—being observed them, as they went along, what are called ters," were pursued and traced to Dorchester. Y , Q Li were not the o n ly f ac t s w hi c h proved that t h e s tbryi., 's klt tiros r were not perpetr a t e d b y t h e l a b ourers. Whene ver tennpted to burn, they always bungled the matte r • v orf' ir insi e t tel erri n e _l had not the skill of the other incendiaries, and t ke ssi l e ,ssi i3 Nle sot, they were detected. But in the western parts of t "j tYrJNP toe 11:1 try, the men had now all returned to their work, arl d(o 0 / !th t k4 t ot was no longer any rioting there. The labourerah! o se ;o ts fr !rtn s rt that they could get nothing by the riots but exP er ; t Ses ta tint 4 h ' t % pothersthe. (Hear, hear.) He trusted that they would n ev „ . 'la tats be influenced by the incitements of men who e ° e osio att s i h have their own bad purposes in view. —(Hear , " ets ol oti ter rit ttss etion a He would repeat, that Le had not prosecuted aeY se esl i , I ti kte )'' 1 4 4 1 1 the destruction of hie property. In any P r° o 4 0 : / . 1 itso i ,. 5 4 441 which lie had promoted, he had not been influee t t rt ` k th at el feeling of revenge or hostility to the people.---( vote jo r k ' t hos a m rit er , He had always, on the contrary, felt the deck Net, the necessity of severe measures towards anY ° i ts " ; 14 Y.5., bourers. He had now as much confidence as eve r Or a ' l l , e l 'e 4 r i4 f aite, s class of his neighbours ; and he was sure that th e i r o shr:,, Vs s s4 l4 lli protect him and hie property from the violence ° He now felt that he lived in a peaceable neig ht eln Nothing could be done to disturb the peace w- j oeti t ; r e b 4 ftt i s " li ght prevailed there, unless by the most artful naanans e o , o o" , 0) 4 4,'tt e) ,. with (Hear, hear.)—He wished the lion. Member w st aic• ti 'lt, li a , stand that he !Mr. Benett) had no personal I ° l s' itt3 l tI.Op him.—(Hear.)—It was not in his nature to e arl oserfA t ss i :' the vengeful feeling towards any man for any ac t-- r edi r , P bsol, s Titi o :a to ' nor did he mean to offer a personal offence in o n bet; :0 1 tu, t,_' l ')4 l , - ; ; ° f q, the statement of the lion. Gentleman—but vi cr sr,e 14, 1 th, gentleman brought forward in that House acilsr's,- pel t btu him, which lie had supported by no proofs, it W t vi re / te!te rti . oe s nary for him to meet that change by a statennen r ,4e et . facts.—[The Hon. Gentleman sat down, id: te e is t t to words, which, from the noise of persons leaving t aiati h the House, we could not hear.] e of rit'ttts,": 4, l of Mr. J. SMITH thought it material that sol t 00 1 1 ,1 rdes t. rota s allegations of the Hon. Member for Preston nu a g sti,, pass without contradiction. As respected S o sh ti a , . 4 0/s was sorry to say, that in the part of that county sse f er s i t:!tti ri ; s tion a , he lived, the sentiment which for a time pre" t here e ll s t l'it .s4l 44 it a revolutionary nature. Although charity via! t he oe kr,„4 ri p te le n n d t e i c f l u t l o m t a h n e ne d r i , st a r n e d sse t d he pa h r u t m o a f ri t i h tey l ot i f bo t u h r e e g re en T ryti e t l ,oAo : 111/4 t,rssd hetlettipel where else more extended, yet those labour h e o r: ti r e e tt o e ? ei r i i t :d ri t ,op : r 4 r t e ! ;t 4 e, i in large bodies, demanding money in a from every person from whom they could exPe ct l 'orP'ts p roept it. A mob of one hundred and eighty person a r 1 ) 1? fi at his (Mr. Smith's) house, demanding " bre ad ° bee I,lte sale le a , The • said r t g l e a l :a e s t: t i e t ) r u he t p y o a f a rt n m d i l f g t h g t e i h e i e r r ni s c f l r i w i o l e m d r r e en t e n w t e ° r x e ica st t a ec t i ' ; ° Sol ° l el" '4:skt s i t c) : :b lv °lll er tlr ' ll e laboularger part of that mob consisted, not Of i ges r i St r ; w 9t the coast of Sussex, whom the vigilance of v : hj _ 6 (5 1: 1 $ ( r ot ') . 141 k1: latent prevented f rom carry i ng on the i r tr ade• l:e sso cr e tne . ; s od the Now, of all those persons, one alone had been a c tios ts o .o o IN,s tt ery punishment. He was a man in good cir c a t o t ol ".„! at tr ' a t _kl but of a very bad character. Ile was sentencersoitio (i t , r pt, portation for 14 years, and there was not one per fro' re st tt ! it s 4 dr ive neighbourhood that was not rejoiced at his renes;iaeredtfive :4 I C r 'l A Noble Duke, residing near Chichester, had r bad 00 4 e't , ' t lts assistance in the suppression of these riots, ar', l ea s f e _aV s t i( iN7INY 0 , 1)I t pains (as we understood the Hon. 'Member) 1 ,i. 0r r tio 4 / ti t only °lithe worst description should be selectel:e od r th 7. del ment. Lie could assure his Hon. Friend (t" r , ol'ose ireaAtt,,; Pr, for Wiltshire), that the condnct of the labe Li o re sor e . o efb r e i i t ec h i l ' bad in some other parts of the country. ne, " 1 „ h 'tki the clemency of some Magistrates was at l e s -s r eedf ear and that severity was necessary. He quite g t be P li , i t s onl ever, with the Hon. Member for Preston, t ior sbu l e 4:414,1'4104 to the western parts of the kingdom were in " e l: i otia ls jitior: 4 : or tt ° condition. That he knew from his own 01 - 4 bat e o o3e se e moor he trusted that the Government would take d r v i,iog tb, ft (1 :41 4 1 of t ; into their consideration, for the purpose of e ves / t to improve it. Although he did na:diagerotef;iessoi:iie.sc:: :t4,tt,:l;ieft: plans of an Hon. Friend (Mr. W. 1 101 t °fl t l tr y sh° t oner e ejaa t L I the House, he (Mr. Smith) was sorry that ,39re eeli te d t ej N lc ati 'N el hoave his andsassstance upon that subject, inted to tant government. esithoug' , et he Pi io P many important points in Mr. Horton's phan , ,, J untr y, Into tan that in part it was calculated to relieve the ° p Mead, t.:ym'ltifled regretted that that gentleman should not I , , a r ' so rs rop isi o o ti -ta ti.. ns laity of again bringing it forward. Tn e y.s , sa o e, , _ parts of Kent and S ' ussex, in which there v ota reit r ,ose h p y or , the tai • " el j r nnent to be found for the population. ttanouihliernwo;:aieehlytde,s:oefunribno: individuals.etnrol n n idpt ; lemi a o n gyes s eehrdot w oNpuo e olft,o r ir e tt found tomn uitu to f i u o a es r p r po e r l p i o e tic s ie ' a n e n t?1, 5 0,,,,,: r i l r ri : 4, l " ;: i i ti i t f it ' l l: at i e i i l t m i e on . nteerhf l e l ar e de ts l wu id ffite r i a rl o o t tih t we b : r.:oosdlititi i icie ls:: :),ot/ :J o:el . s e . i tili lt s,', 4 4 :ni 4tz t, qst b .e ee kais:toti the._ e u v esd s bA' :R e i ni g v i e t ti t t l r i l a i i s t o i p o n n u . l ß i o is r a i r i i n o u n i s e e t n i t e t. e w i h n o li t v b e v i a a s c lately oeulogiseduut country, au 0 0111°c- La rrier, ' M le tr./ ti of ItteN t° I blve cobbett 0 142-4 merit w beeal l ' e 14 , 1 -9 4 was I a t alked of,t,httuintte, )f wilobir% sure the , Mr. D e l pe ( ;;for: I, t f the p( yOU Nil 3 hOUld j() it l' 3 ' ou t tliti n '''h the y for ° b e it ki ° l 4, lutd h t 1, therefert: esee a . ttribute a t ' e 11 4 ' r YO] Elfr. 1.1 a nd to 0e ,40 4 al the 1 1 °''' ,to ', lll a ide a treat e ve " for Pe 'ad re ' t h i s powere rk,er Pa. 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