The Sun. — London, England, 1864-11-02 00:00:00

Naval and Military Intelligence. The autumnal inspection of the 28 companies nposing the 4th Division of Royal Marine Light gantry yesterday commenced at Woolwich by al. J. B. Stransham, Inspector General of the cp. The General, accompanied by Capt. Travers, D.C., rode down to Woolwich from London, and Ls met at Charlton by Col. Travers, C. 8., Second Immandant ; Capt. Bane, Brigade Major, and her mounted officers, and was escorted to the bar ck square, where the division was drawn up in arching order in quarter distance column, and re ived the Inspector General under arms. The )neral carefully inspected the packs'and accoutre ;Ws, went through the barrack quarters, and in ected the men's messes, which were served up in presence. At two o'clock they reassembled on ,rade, and proceeded to the review ground on 'oolwich common, where they formed in three brig Ldes, in Oder command of Colonel Commandant opkins, C. 8,, Aide-de-Camp to the Queen, Bri- Idier ; Col. Travers, C. 8., Second Commandant; lent.-Col. Marriott, and LicutaCol. Louis; Capt. anco acting as Major of Brigade. The division ustered over 1,000 strong, and each man was sup led with 20 rounds of blank ammunition. Their )pearance in contiguous column, performing the lute, which• they did on the Inspector General's 'rival on the ground, was especially commended. fter going past the column front and rear, and aking a most careful inspection, the General and aff took up a position in front, and the bri- Ides marched past. A variety of field exercises Lying been gone through, the Inspector-General lied upon Lieut. Colonel Louis to put his brigade ,rough a course of bayonet movements. They were )rformed in admirable style. Skirmishers were len sent forward to reconnoitre the position and umbers of a supposed enemy in the distance, 'hereupon a general engagement commenced, and )ntinued upwards of two hours. At the conclusion le Inspector General remarked to Col. Hopkins iat he had never found the battalion in better con .tion, and that he was much pleased with the man er in which they had acquitted themselves iroughout. The inspection of the gunnery depart. lent, under Captain Carrington, and other por ons of the establishment was to be made this iorning. By a letter dated the 27th of October the Secre sry of State for War approves the admission into ospital when deemed necessary of the civilian ser ants of officers stationed at Aldershott, provided hat the actual cost of the subsistence in hospital, nether with the,additional expense for attendance, vashing, and fuel, be paid by the principal par. 'eyor, and that no expense be thereby entailed Ipon the public. A detachmentof the Roy al Engineer Train, under ;onamand of Lieut. Gore Booth, and consisting of i 3 non-commissioned officers and men, 30 horses, ix carts, and one waggon, is under orders to pro :eed from Aldershott to Shorncliffe, there to be stationed. Oa Friday the mounted portion of the letachment marched from the South Camp to Duilford, en route for their destination. On Wednesday last the route marching for the e.ason commenced at Aldershott, and the division proceeded by brigades, from its several parades in both camps, into the surrounding country. The gee neral rendt zvous selected appeared to be Farnham, and towards this point the troops converged, leav ing Aldershott about 10 o'clock. The 31 brigade, however, paraded in the North Camp at 9 a.m., commanded by LieuteCol.Gordon (75th Regiment), in the absence of Major-Gen. Russell. Tne brigade consisted of the 39th, 75th, and 831 Regiments. The second brigade consisted of the lot battalion 14th and 621 Regiments and 2 battalion GOth It'fiss, the E and F batteries 9th brigade Royal Artillera. pre ceding. The first brigade was composed of the 31st, 59th, and 85th Regiments, while the cavalry com prised the Ist and 2d Dragoons, 14th Hussars, and 1.) battery Royal horse Artillery. The appearance of the troops under arms was all that could be de sired. The troops returned to quarters about 1 o'clock In accordance with annual custom the 2d Dra, goons (Scots Greys), now stationed at Aldershott, celebrated the anniversary of the battle of Balak lava on Tuesday last, on the officers' parade in the south cavalry barracks, where there were a variety of games, races, and sports for the non-commissioned (Seers and men of the regiment and of the garri son. The games and sports were under the patron age of Major-Gen. Hodge, C. 8., commanding the Cavalry Brigade. Of the three regiments which formed the heavy brigadeatßaleklave, and executed the " heavy charge" on the 25th of October, 1854, two—the Ist (or Royals) and the 21 Dragoons (or Scots Greys)—are now stationed at Aldershott, and the third, the laniskilling Dragoons, in India. The first distribution of prize money for the cap ture of I)har, in the course of the Indian mutiny of 1857, has been made at Aldershott during the pre- sent week to the 14th (King's) Hussars, one of the two regiments at that station which were engaged in the action (the other regiment being the 86th Foot). The distribution of the prize money, which amounted to about £3,000, was made to the 14th Hussars on Monday last. Each private received £4O, sergeant £BO, and sergeant major £lOO. On being mustered, only 35 men came forward for their claim, and as a still further proof of the havoc made by the mutiny it may be mentioned that not a single officer who was present at Dhar is now with the regiment. The recipients of the prize-money have deposited a great portion of it in the savings -bank, and many have devoted their share to the relief of the necessities of their aged parents. An important and interesting military reconnals- Ewen commenced a few weeks ago has just been completed for the Quartermaster •General's office, by a detachment of officers from the Royal Staff College, Sandhurst. Stafting simultaneously from Bleckwater, Bagshot, Woking, and Chobham, the four dlvisiono of an imaginary corps d'arni4 were supposed to be marching southward to repel an ina vasion. All the staff duties of a large force were performed as they would be on actual service. The military positions on the Surrey hills, the roads connecting them, and those leading to the south, were surveyed, sketched, and reported on. The military resources and statistics of the town© on the line of advance were noted, camps were laid out, and communications constantly kept up between the advancing columns. The Weald of Sussex having been thus traversed, fresh positions were taken up on the South Downs. The sea coast was examined from Bognor to Shoreham, and reports made on the facilities or otherwise for landing troops in largo masses, and also upon those military positions on the shore which would be favaurable to covering at tempted landings. These duties performed, the imaginary enemy may be supposed to have been driven back on his ships. The following officers of tho Staff Corps, under the command of Colonel W. Napier, have been employed in these operations : Major Wood, Victoria Cross, 73d Regiment—Capt. Creagh, sth Fusiliers—Lient.-Col. Clive, Grenadier Guards—Capt.Gilbard,l3th Hassars—Lient.Young, 17th Lancers—Capt. Blundell, Grenadier Guards —a Major Goodenough, Royal Artillery—Lient. Faw• cett, Ist Royals—Capt. Knowles, 67th Regiment— L'eut. Blake, sth Fusileers—lkiajor Bolton, Royal Artillery—Capt. Hutchinson, 64th Regiment—and Major Bowen, 69th Regiment. The deaths of the following officers have been officially reported at the War-office since the let of October :—Generals J. Reeve, Colonel of the 61st Regiment—and T. W. Robins, Colonel of the 80th Regiment. Colonel 3. Buchanan, Royal Marines— Major T. Cochrane, sth West India Regiment. Capta. C. H. Costabadie, 3d Princess of Wales's Dragoon Guards—T. E. Gahagan,Roy al Engineers, It. H. Macfarlane, 2d battalion sth Fusiliers—J. Lamb, 100th Regiment—J. Gillespie, H. S. Tribe, It eyal Marines—and P. Conolly (Quartermaster), 20th Regiment. Lieuta. J. S. Humphrey, W. T. Scett, and W. It. Molesworth, Royal Artillery—P. Whinfield, Ist battalion 2311 Regiment—G. Fitz gerald, let battalion 25th King's Own Borderers— B. Recce, 37th Regiment—C. 111'14°d, 43d Light Infantry--eSa G. It. Barry, 13th Dragoons—W. Edwards, 58th Regiment--E. Mahon, 70th Regi. mint—and T. Alky, Corsicaa Ran go rs—Qaarter mister C. Bedfcr3, sth Royal Irish Lancers—and Pcgley, 4th Veteran Battalion. Deputy Com taiss,lry-General, F. W. A. C. Major—Assistant. Commissary-General S. M. M‘Lean Sutherland — Apothecary S. Jones. The officers of the 9th Depot Battalion at the camp at Colchester are about to preset t a testi monial of respect to Ccl. Knox, C.B. The annual sports of the 14th Hussars came off on the Royal Pavilion Cricket-ground at Aldershott on Thursday afternoon. Her Majesty's iron steamship Valiant, 4,063 tons and 800 horse power engines, built by Messrs. Westwood and Bailie at Millwall, and masted and rigged in the Victoria docks, yesterday went down the river at the two o'clock tide for Sheerness, in command of Commander Luke, steam reserve at Woolwich. On account of her great draught of water it was considered necessary to lay to at Green hithe for the night, and proceed this morning to Sheerness, where she will receive her armament from Woolwich and be completed for sea. The launch of a fine ship of 1,500 tons, likewise built in the above-named yard (now called the Lon don Engineering Iron Shipbuilding Company), is announced to take place at 2 p.m. to-day. She is to be named the Royal George, The following is a list of the naval and military stations to which the Contagious Diseases Preven• tion Act is intended to apply—Portsmouth, Ply. mouth, Woolwich, Chatham, Sheerness, Aldershott, including the limits of the parishes of Pirbright, Ash, Compton, Peper.Harrow, Frimley, Patten ham, Seale and Tongham, Elstead, Farnham, Birley, in the county of Surrey, Aldershott, Yately, Crondall, Dogmersfield, Wincbfield, Hartley. Wintney, Cove, Eversley, Farnborough, Binstead, Bentley, in the county of Hants ; Sandhurst, in the county of Berks ; Colchester, Shorncliffe, the Curragh, Cork, and Queenstown, The Eigar, screw line•ofbattle ship, Capt. G. P. Hereby, bearing the flag of Rear-Admiral S. C. Dacres, C. 8., Commander■in-Chief of the Channel fleet, accompanied by the iron frigate (screw) Warrior, 40 guns, Capt. the Hon. A. A. Cochrane, C. 8,, anchored at Spithead yesterday from the westward. The Himalaya, screw troopship, Capt. Lacy, went out of Portsmouth harbour yesterday on trial of her machinery, preparatory to her proceeding again on foreign service. The trial was perfectly satisfaes tory, and the Himalaya returned to the harbour to complete the necessary preparations for her voyage and the embarcation of troops, &c. _ _ The Aurora, 35, screw frigate, Capt. Sir Leopold M'Clintcck, steamed into Portsmouth harbour yes• terday to refit atter the Baltic voyage. The ships of war on the Australian station at the date of the last advices were—the Harrier, 17, Capt. Sullivan, at New Z3aland (ordered home) ; the Miranda, 14, Capt. Jenkins, at New Zealand ; the Eclipse, 4, Capt. Mayne, at New Zealand ; the Caracoa, 23, Commodore Wiseman, at Sydney; the Esk, 21, Captain,_ Hamilton, at Sydney ; the Fal con, 17, Capt. Parkin, at New Zealand ; and the Salamander, 4, Capt. Carnegie, at New York. Yesterday General Todleben, the Russian General and defender of Sebastopol, paid a visit to Chatham, for the purpose of inspecting the naval and military establishments at that port and garrison, as well as the system of fortification carried out at that mili tary station. The General travelled by the London Chatham, and Dover Railway, arrived at Chatham at half-past 11 a.m. He was accompanied by Gen. Sir J. F. Burgoyne, G.C.8., Inspector-General of Royal Engineers, and bis aide-de-camp ; Capt. the Hon. G. Wrottesley, Royal Engineers ; Gen. Sir J. M. F. Smith, K.H., M.P., Royal Engineers; Mr. E. J. Reed, Chief Constructor of the Navy ; and an Attache from the Imperial Embassy in London. On the platform awaiting the arrival of General Todleben were Major-Gen. Sir Robert Walpole, K.C.8., commanding the troops in the Chatham district, with his aide-de-camp, Liento,Col. T. B, Collinson, Lieut,-Col. J. W. Lovell, C. 8., Royal Engineers and other officers of the garrison. A number of carriages were in waiting in the station yard, in which the visitors entered, and were driven in the first instance to Chatham dockyard, where they were received by Capt. \V. IL Stewart, C. 8., superintendent ; Mr. Thornton, senior master ship builder, and the other principal officials. At the moment of their entering the dockyard the work men were leaving for dinner. This, however, did not prevent the General and the other visitors from witnessing the extensive operations in pro. gress relating to the construction and repair of the largest descriptions of iron-clad vessels of war. After spending a short time in the offices, where the drawings and plans of the principal iron ships were examined with much interest, the General proceeded to the dock in which the Bellerophon ironclad frigate is under construction. The whole of the workmen having been withdrawn from the ship, every portion of the interior of the frigate was traversed, and the vari ous parts of the vessel pointed out by Mr Reed, the greatest apparent interest being shown by the Ge neral in every portion of her construction, which differs very remarkably from every other vessel of the kind yet built. Leaving the Bellerophon Ge neral Todleben and party proceeded through the yard, passing the docks and slips on which several wooden vessels are standing in various degrees of progress until they reached the ship on which the iron.plated frigate Lord Warden is under construc tion, also from Mr Reed's plans. The brief time occupied in the visit to the dockyard would scarcely admit of any of the establishments being visited, and shortly before two o'clock the General, with the other visitors, quitted the yard and proceeded to the Royal Engineer establishment at Brompton. Lun. cheon for a party of 50 guests was served in the Royal Engineers' mesaroom, to which most of the heads of' departments were invited. General Todleben afterwards briefly inspected the companies of Royal Engineers, who were drawn up in front of their quarters in fatigue dress, previously to pro. seeding on the field works for their engineering operations. The hells of study for the Engineer officers, schools, and Royal Engineer museum, the latter containing a varied and choice collection of models connected with military engineering, as well as an equally interesting array of articles of all de scriptions obtained during the Russian, Caffre, Chie nese, and other wars were visited, and their contents inspected with evident interest. General Todle ben afterwards proceeded to the Royal Engineer depot field works—a considerable extent of ground stretching from the fortifications to the Med. way, and admirably adapted for the instruction of the officers and sappers in everything relating to military engineering, the construction of earth. works, formation of bridges, &c. Upwards of an hour was spent upon the works in witnessing the operations of the Sappers and Miners and the re sult of their labours during the past summer, and it was late in the afternoon before General Todleben and the other visitors quitted the ground. They returned to town by the London, Chatham, and Dover Railway, the General before his depar ture expressing the pleasure his visit to Chatham had afforded him. The following appointments and promotions have been made at the Admiralty : —Capt. J. G. Good enough, to the Victoria, commissioned—Comman der Mountford S. L. Peile, to the Espoir, commis sioned—Lieuts. H. L. Perceval, Hon. H. B. Hamil ton, Hardy M'Hardy, Walter Stewart, and A. H. Markham, to the Victoria—W. H. Drysdale, master, to the Victoria—Sub-Lieuts. Alfred T. Bagge, H. S. Hutchings, and C. P. Pelly, to the Victoria— Alleyne P. Pascoe, midshipman, to the Meeanee— E. J. Fellowes, midshipman, to the Racoon ; Mar. ens M•Causland, Robert L. Smart, Henry W. A. Littledale, Henry A. Askew, Meyrick T. Daubeny, William F. S. Mann, George H. Bruce, and Robert 0. Webb, midshipmen, to the Victoria—Frederick C. Bonltbee, nominated to a naval cadetship—E. A. Williamson, promoted to paymaster-in-chief on the retired list—Frederick W. Le Grand, M.D., vitals and Fle e t s , en promoted to be D eputy I nspector- General.of Hos. the retired list—Sidney J. Spark, paymast er , to the Victoria—J. H. Manley, assist.-paymaster, to the Blenheim—Henry W. Andrews, Wm. Phillips, and Henry Ellis, assist.- paymasters, to the Victoria—the Rev. S. K. Stothert, chaplain, to the Victoria—the Rev. J. W. llassell, chaplain, to the Liffey--the Rev. Henry T. Clerk, chaplain, to the Blenheim —F. Brinckley naval instructor, to the Victoria —Frederick M. James, clerk, to the Victoria—Henry Stubby and %Vali= W. Perry, assist.-clerks, to the Victoria ; On Monday about 150 gentlemen dined at Manchester under the auspices of the Committee of the Warehousemen and Clerks' Orphan Schools, A glee party sung a number of glees, &c., between the toasts. Lord STANLEY, who presided, in proposing "The Queen," said—Those of us who have lived to middle age have seen stormy times in this country, and we may see such times again, although all present appearances are in a contrary direction. But it is the happicess of our modern political system that under it no serious unpopularity can ever attach to the Crown, except by the faults of the Crown. It may be a paradox, but I believe it is the truth, that in proportion as the sovereigns have parted with that direct power and authority which they exercised in former days, in precisely the same proportion they have gained in popularity and even in social influence. (Hear.) The more men feel them selves free and self-good, the more ready they are to pay to the highest authority in the country that which no law can exact or enforce—the willing tribute of their loyal respect, (Hear.) I am not in the habit of flattering royal persons either present or absent, but it is bare justice to her Ma jesty to say that in the long list of English sovereigns there is none who has more uniformly made public duty and public interest the rule of her life. (Hear.) A court upon which, during 27 years, no reproach can be cast, is at all times a rare spectacle in English history—(hear)—and considering the influence which the Queen exercises upon social life in this country, I think we cannot doubt that she has thereby conferred a very real and substantial benefit upon public morals and on our English social life. (Applause.) The CHAIRMAN, in proposing the health of "The Prince and Princess of Wales and the rest of the Royal Family,' , said in this country the heir to the crown occupies a pecu liar and somewhat difficult position. He is shut out from any direct and active participation in public life, but he is bound to study and take an interest in the course of public affairs. He is naturally the most impartial and disinterested adviser of the Sovereign, but he is bound most scrupulously to avoid any interference with the functions or rights of the Minister of the day. (Hear.) In his position he can never be wholly free from ceremonial restraint, yet he is expected to see and to be seen. He must maintain a certain social re serve, yet he is expected to take part frankly in the plea • sures and pursuits of English gentlemen. To fulfil these various duties, to satisfy these expectations, is not altogether an ease matter. (Hear, hear.) Those who think as I do, that State shows and ceremonies are about the hardest work a man can be put to, would find, if they were to try it, that the highest station has its drawbacks, and that ample allowances may be very hardly earned. (Hear, hear.) We have not had the opportunity of knowing much of his Royal High ness. What we do know is this, that wherever he has gone he has acquired for himself personal popularity and respect. (Hear, hear.) I hope some day or another he may give us a chance of making acquaintance with him in these dis tricts. lam sure he ought to be glad to see Manchester; and I am quite sure that Manchester will be glad to see him. (Applause.) The CHAIRMAN gave " The bishop, clergy, and ministers of all denominations,' , and said—Truly glad I am that here at least, without dispute or objection, we are able to give that toast in that form ; because it shows that among us sectarian differences are not rife. (Hear.) I suppose we are too busy. I have always noticed that when people had nothing else to do they took to quarrelling; and whether met are minded to quarrel, religious differences often serve to that end. (Hear, hear, and laughter.) I think, how ever, the feeling here is that ministers of religion are not antagonists or rivals, except in a friendly sense, but aro rather allies, fighting in different uniforms against one com mon enemy; and if I know anything. of these things they've got their werk before them. (Hear, hear, and laughter.) There is plenty of vice to combat ; they will meet plenty of opposition of all kinds ; and what is more, they will meet men who are not much in the habit of submitting to any authority, and who are accustomed to speak their mind out. I recollect a friend of mine, an old clergyman who had a largo experience in various parts of England, saying to me that he would much rather deal with Lancashire men than with people from simply rural districts. " They are not so smooth-spoken, they are not always so civil to you, but they understand what pu say; and it you can once get them to :agree with you, and to say that they agree with you, you may be quite sure that they do, because they wont say it if they do not mean it." (Rear, hear.) I believe that is true, and I believe that the work ing classes in Lancashire, more than perhaps anywhere I else, have that kind of intelligence and shrewdness that they know a genuine man from a humbug, (Hear, hear, and laughter.) Therefore, if a clergyman is minded to throw his head and his heart into the work he has to do, I do not know that he could wish to be better situated than in Lancashire. (Applause.) The Rev. Canon RICHSON responded, and heartily com mended the Warehousemen and Clerks' Schools to the mercantile community, whose duty be said it was to raise the £lO,OOO needed for the erection of the contemplated buildings. He thought the necessary guarantee for the commencement of the work ought to be obtained in a fortnight. The CHAIRMAN proposed "The army, navy, and volun teers," and said—A few years ago there might be many persons to whom a toast of this kind would seem out of place in this city; but as we grow older we grow wiser— at least some of us do. (Laughter.) I think within the last two years we have discovered two things—one, that the world is not quite so near to that state of lamb-like innocence as some of us thought a dozen years ago, and that if we, working bees, intend to secure the use and en joyment of our own honey, we shall have to show that we are ready occasionally to use our stings—(" hear," and laughter),—though I hope, like bees, we shall only do it in self-defence. (Hear, hear.) The other thing is that science and mechanical skill have as much to do with the arts of war as they have with those of peace. That isn't a new lesson. It is as old as the days of Archimedes, and probably older—but it is a lesson which we had rather lost sight of in recent times. Now, in our state of society, when occasional war must be contemplated as a possibility, I think there is no feature about it more aatisfactory than the extent to which the results are influenced by scientific skill and by mechanical appliances, That is satisfactory, because it is a guarantee, as far as anything can be so, for the furtherance of our actual civilisation. It is a security to the civilised and educated nations of the world, that their power and skill will prevail against mere brute force and mere animal courage. I believe we may congratulate ourselves upon having here in Manchester contributed not inconsiderably to that result ; and if we should be unfortunate enough to be drawn into future wars, I believe that the historian of those wars will record the name of Mr Whitworth as that of a man who has done as much for the military successes of the country as our most victorious generals. (Hear, hear.) I believe we have an army and a navy which, though undoubtedly they have been very costly, aro yet efficient. I say that especially of the navy, although in that respect we are in such a state of transi tion that nobody precisely knows where we are. (Laughter.) But I believe we have maintained, and are maintaining,our relative superiority over other countries. And if, as the general belief is, success in maritime war depends upon three things,—the quality of our iron, the length of our purse, and the courage of our men, why, we have the biggest ironfields of any country, I believe we have longest purse, and as for men, if we only do as well as they did in the days of our grandfathers, I do not think we have any rea son to fear. (Hear, hear) One word upon the volunteer force. I look with great respect upon that force, and I think it is quite as important in a moral—(hear, hear)—l mean in a political and diplomatic, as in a material point of view—because it shows that though we may not have a warlike Government we are at the bottom a military nation. You may have a Government making a great parade of driving on a war, men who would much rather be quiet in their homes—(hear, hear)—but in this country all our Go. vernments, I don't care who they be, all those who are re sponsible for the conduct of affairs, all thinking men, are only anxious to be able to keep honourably and safely at peace. But, if you ono rouse the military spirit of the country, there is that in us that if we aro driven to war, I believe we shall go to it with a will. I believe the volun teer movement to be good in all ways. For gentlemen engaged in sedentary pursuits is bas been excellent as a sanitary measure, a sort of anticipation of Banting. (Laughter.) It has given to many men who were idle against their will, idle because they had a competence and no sphere of usefulness open to them—and there are many such in English society—the pleasure of employment, and the sense, for the first time, of feeling that they were making themselves useful to the commu nity; and that is a pleasure which no man need despise. (Hear, hear.) It has brought together clasees who had not an opportunity of meeting before in •he same way ; and last, but not least, it has done a great deal to put an end to those discreditable panics to which England used to be liable from time to time. (Applause.) I believe we may reckon at the present time upon an Efficient volunteer force of 150,000 men. I mean that there is that number on the rolls, of whom two thirds would be available at once if they were wanted ; and large as that force is, I believe it is only the nucleus of the force which might be available if auy national exigency should require it. (Applause.) The Hon, A. EGERTON, IMP,, responded. The children of the schools were then introduced, The noble CHAIRMAN said—The introduction of these weleAne visitors shows that I am about to propose the toast of the evening, 0 Prosperity to the Manchester Warehouse men and Clerks' Schools.' , I rise under some difficulty in proposing that toast, not on account of the weakness of tho case which I have to submit, but because on such a subject it is hardly possible to say anything that your own experi ence and knowledge of the world will not have already Bug gested. Tho proposition is to enlarge, or practically to found anew, thcso schools, for the benefit of orphans and ACCOEdi- tons children of persons employed as warehousemen and clerks. The questions we have to consider are—ls this thing wanted ? Are there any reasonable objections to its exist ence ? And if not, are we setting about its establishment in the right way? As to the first question, lam afraid lam not very well qual:fied to give an opinion. I have not with me a fact or figure showing what the number is in these districts Of the class for whom we undertake to provide. All I know is that where a million of people are employed in industrial pursuits, that class must necessarily be large. You cannot have any place of business without a clerk, few without more than one ; and those who have visited those magnificent palaces called warehouses, which are an equal honour to the public spirit anti to the taste of Manchester, and which brings strangers from distant parts of the country to inspect them, must be aware that not all the ingenuity which Lancashire can command, not all our laboursaving machinery, can avoid the necessity of a large amount of human labour being there employed. Then you have a numerous class to deal with. I may assume that you have also a poor class. I take it that very few persons go into the business of a warehouseman or a clerk who have any con• siderable private means independent of what they can earn. (Hear, hear.) I may assume further that, although men in that position may and do rise in society, yet in the earlier years of life their remuneration is rather small, and the sum that they can lay by is therefore insignificant. (Hear.) Give then those facts, a poor and numerous class, and you have this also certain, that out of every large number of persons there will be, a certain per tentage —an insurance office could give you the precise figures—who will die per maturely. That is a matter of experience and calculation. It follows, therefore, necessarily that in that class you will have a certain amount of poverty and destitution. Yon will have a certain number of children thrown upon your hands, and the question will be what to do with them. I see only three alternatives. One, of course, is the workhouse, I think those who look round this room will see reasons stronger than I can suggest why it is not expedient to leave children in that position to that resource. (Hear, hear.) But feeling apart, and as a mere matter of national economy, 1 should say that it was an unwise course. In this country to pauperise a man is to degrade him. (Hear, hear.) It may be right or wrong, but the fact is so. Poverty to a mode rate extent is a stimulus. But when a man gets to the very bottom of the social scale, he is under fearful disadvantages if he ever tries to make his way up ; and the same remark applies still mere strongly to a woman. In addition to that the workhouse training is bad, and on the whole I think you will not require me to argue at length that you would not like to see every orphan child of a warehouseman or clerk left simply to the tender mercies of the union. The second alternative is—Can or ought the employer to take care of them ? The practical answer is very simple ; there are some who can't, and a great many who won't. Though I am the last to wish to discourage private liberality or mu nificence, still I do not think that it would be very desirable that, as a general rule, there should be an expectation created that wherever children were left orphans or desti • tute, the employer should, as a matter of course, be bound to take care of them. I will tell you why I think that would not be a good general rule. We all know that men in that class of life can only provide for their families by pinching, by self-denial, by refusing themselves many little luxuries and comforts. I think it would he not a wise thing, I think it would be a premium on imprudence, if you were to put it into men's heads to argue in this way, " Why should I argue, and pinch myself, and be so careful to make provi sion for my family? If I live they will take care of them selves ; if I die I may look upon it as a matter of course that my employer will take care of them; therefore anything I lay by is saving his pocket and not mine." (Hear, hear.) If you were to establish that as a general principle, the effect would be to create a very general feeling of dependence and imprudence, which two words mean the same among that class. I put the alternative, therefore, out of the question. It seems to me, then, that you are inevitably thrown back on the resource of some institution such as that we are now promoting. Ido not think it is open to the objection that applies more or less to simple charity, the simple giving o alms, because the leading idea of the institution is the corn , bination of the principle of insurance with the principle of charity, It is perfectly true that the help which is given is not absolutely and strictly limited to the children of sub scribers ; but it is equally the fact, that, in all cases where the merits are equal, children of subscribers will have the preference. What virtually the institution says to persons in that position is, if you will help yourselves we will help you—(applause)--if you will make a certain provision for your families in the event of your death, and being unable to provide for them we will put something down; we will for every shilling you put down put down another shilling, and so we will help you, and encourage others to make a similar provision. I can conceive it possible that men may say, " Why in such a case aro you to give any help at all ? Every man can and ought to insure his life, and no man has a right to marry unless ho can make it reasonably certain that he can provide fur the children whom he brings into the world." My answer is that that is a thing very easy to say, but not equally easy to enforce. Of course there is truth in it; I do not deny that there is a certain practical logical truth in it; and I freely admit that if all men were perfectly wise and perfectly prudent there might probably be no need of such an institution as that we are now sup porting. But that is not precisely the state of things in the world in which we live. Men aro not machines. They are not merely reasoning beings; they have passions and feel ings, and if you are to condemn every man who marries upon small means or doubtful expectations, and if you are to look into the biography of notable men in this country, you will find that you are censuring many of those who have subsequently held the highest positions, and done the most eminent service to the State. (Applause.) And let this also be remembered, and in this presence I merely touch upon it, that if in one sense a family is a burden, in another sense it is a stimulus to exertion and a moral restraint. (Hear, hear.) Take the case, we all know it, of the army. Soldiers, as a rule, cannot marry; moving about as our army does from country to country, it is hardly possible that they should. Here I won't say more ; but we all know what the result of that is ; we all know that soldiers are not worse than other men, but if in some respects they appear to be worse, it is because they have not what most other men have—the comforts of a home. (Hear.) I think, there fore, that you would be straining too far a sound economi cal rule, if you were—wherever a man marries upon uncer tain prospects, fails in his expectations, cannot make provi sion for his family, dies unexpectedly, and leaves that family in distress—to say that you will punish, not him, for he is beyond the reach of punishment, but them, by con signing them to total ruin. Further than th a t I s h ou ld say an institution of this kind is no real encouragement to im prudence. We cannot help, or pretend to help, all who want assistance; we can help comparatively only a selected few. We require, I suppose, in every case evidence of character; we require in a great majority of cases to know that some contributions have been made by the father; and if on the one hand, we make it somewhat easier for a man to provide for a future family by giving him these means of assisted insurance, on the other hand we lead many men to make provision for a family which they have, which provision without such assistance they would not think of making, I think you may fairly set one against the other. I have only one word more to say as to the prin c i p l e of the ma t ter . I n cases of this kind experience is worth a great deal more than theory, and we know there is hardly a trade, profes sion, or occupation in England which has not thought it expedient to make some provision of this kind for its mem bers. I am speaking of London only, because it is the place I know best. Literary men, artiste, newspaper men, and railway servants have done it, so have farmers, grocers, gardeners, and licensed victuallers ; and I believe there are many more of which I kno w not hi ng . Schools founded on the principle of this ar e b e i ng f oun ded every year, and those that have bee n f oun d e d ar e regu larly and steadily supported. Of course I don't say that is an absolute proof that we are right in the principles we have adopted ; but I do say that when a large num ber of persons in different occupations, unconnected with one another, all of them interested in the result, adopt the same means to accomplish th e same en d, that is strong prima facie evidence at least th a t a genera l want is felt, and that there is a general agre emen t as to t h e ma nner in which that want ought to be sup p li e d . (Hear, h ear .) I do not carry it further, but it Seems to me that argu ment is sound as far as it goes. Spe a ki ng in this company, I need say nothing as to the union of classes as to the duties the rich owe to the poor, or to the expediency of obtaining, as far as you can, the support and good feeling of those who work with you. Everybody knows that gratitude and goodwill i are not things which can be bought with money, but so fa as money can help to buy them that is the beat investment of his capital whi c h even a M anc h es ter man can make. (Hear, and laughte r .) Just ono word before I sit down, on matters of practical d e t a i l. These sc hools have existed for eight years ; there h ave b een 61 c hildren elected, the num ber now in the school is 31, The income, excluding special donations, is about 41,000 a year, and there is a reserve fund of £1,500, which I hope we shall not touch. The im mediate necessity is to obtain money for a new building. I believe the schools have been carefully attended to, and as far as possible under the circumstances, economically worked. But there is a saying that nothing succeeds like success, and the converse of the saying is equally true that nothing is so expensive as poverty. (Hear, hear.) The cost of the staff of the house, what may be called the fixed ex penditure, has been, 1 believe, very nearly as heavy in the case of these schools as if they contained double the number, (Hear.) Therefore, it is a mere matter of economy to re duce that expenditure per head by doubling the capacity of the scho Is. (Applause.) I think you will see from what I have said, there is plenty of room for any exertion you will be inclined to make. I rejoice to see that many of the leading names of Manchester aro associated with this movement. I see some present; our president, Sir James Watts; Mr Ponder, Dr Fairbairn, and I might mention others who when they once take a thing in hand, are not in the habit of letting it drop through. (Hoar, hear.) Ido not believe that it is the practice in Manchester to give to any cause, or to any institution, a merely idle and nominal patronage; and I am quite sure that those who have given their names on this occasion as stewards will give something more sub stantial. Though this is comparatively a small matter, I confidently believe that in this, as in every other matter, Manchester will not ,forfeit, but rather increase, that great name of judicious liberality she has obtained during the two years of the cotton famine. Pardon me for detaining you so long, and let me ask you to join with me in drinking, with all the honours, prosperity to these rfiE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, NOVEMBER 2, 1864. Frederick IN. Sutton (B), promoted to be chief en. gineer—Johu Marwood, engineer, tt the Dauntless for the tenders—William H. Hooper, ergineer, to the Indus, as supernumerary—H. H. Mothersole, engineer, to the Fervent—Eyre Miles, supernume• rary in the Asia, promoted to be engineer ; F. T. Pendleton, in the Styx, promoted to acting•engi. neer—and Robert Walters, assist.-engineer, to the Formidable for the Lizard. Lord Stanley and the Warehousemen and Clerks' Schools. schools. (Applause.) The toast was drunk with applause. Mr R. N. PHILIPS responded. Mr J. DUFFIELD, the secretary, announced subscrips tions amounting to £1,131. _ _ Mr W. R. WOOD gave the House of Lords and the House of Commons, which was responded to by Mr T. BAZLEY, M.P. Sir J. WATTS gave the health of the Chairman. The CHAIRMAN, in responding, said—l wish' I had words to express to you how heartily and sincerely I thank you for the reception you have given me to-night. I am not vain enough to suppose that it is wholly or mainly due to any merits of mine. But I know the kindness of the recep tion which you have always given to my father when public duty has brought him amongst you (applause)—and I have felt all my life, as a public man, that a great part of any position to which I have msde my way was owing to that which he had previously attained. But I thank you for the welcome you have given me—l thank you partly because there is no testimony of good feeling which could reach me from any other part of the country for which I should feel half so grateful as that from which I receive from the inhabitants of that county in ,which I was born, and in which I hope to live and die. (Applause.) Partly also, though I won't say a word touching on politics here, I do feel that what Lancashire thinks to-day, England thinks to■ morrow—(applause)—and, therefore, the expression of kindly feeling in this district towards one who, whether he wishes it or no, is a public man, touches me more nearly than it could in any part of the country. (Applause.) I have said that I won't address to you one word bearing on politics, and I won't; but I will just say this, because I think it has nothing whatever to do with politics in a party sense—that I have often differed from the majority of parliamentary men in this respect—l always see them look ing out for something which gives them an opportunity for a fight. (Laughter.) That is not the view that I take of most public questions. I always wish to see how far it is possible to bring sensible and moderate men to an agreement, and if you cannot do that, why, then, of course fight it out. (Hear, hear, and laughter.) But Ido believe that upon a very large proportion of questions that are brought before Parliament, if you can bring men of business, moderate sen sible men, into one room they will come to a substantial agreement as to what ought to be. (Hear, hear.) There is only one word further which I wish to say. It is a com mon popular idea that every man who goes into public life is engaged in an incessant scramble for the possession of executive power. So far as I can see, that is a mistake— certainly, so far as I am concerned, it is an utter mistake, (Hear, hear.) I hold that a man's business is to help to carry on the business of the country to the best of his power and he may do that almoet equally well whether he is a member of the national Legislature or of the national execu tive. The difference to my mind between a mere politician and anyone worthy of the name of a statesman is this, that the one is thinking what the country will do for him, and the other is thinking what he can do for the country. I beg to thank you for the kindness of the reception you have given me, and I hope that, feeling myself as closely con nected with Manchester as anyone in this room, we shall meet publicly anti privately on many future occasions. (Applause.) The meeting then drank the health of the ladies, and the proceedings terminated. The Singular Claim of Property at Wigan The borough magistrates at Wigan were occupied for nearly six hours on Monday in hearing a case arising out of the extraordinary seizure of the Manor-house, Scholes, by two men acting as agents for one Horrocks, a grocer, at Spenney Moor, Durham, the particulars of which have al ready appeared in our columns. Mr Hilton, the town clerk, appeared in support of a summons charging Joseph Her rocks and Charles Rowe with having forcibly entered and detained the Manor-house, Scholes, then in the occupation of the executors of the late Joseph Burns, as tenants thereof. The defendants were represented by Mr Trotter, of Bishop Auckland, Durham, solicitor for the claimant of the pro perty. The first witness called was Thos. Swarbrick, who. said ho was one of the executors of the late Joseph Burns. Mr Trotter, learning that the will was not proved, at once objected to the reception of the evidence of the witness as an executor till the will was proved ; but this objection was overruled. The evidence went to show that on the 12th October the two defendants entered the house, stating that they represented the real owner of the property, that they were ejected by force, and that they re-entered immediately afterwards by the back door, followed by a crowd who sup ported their claim, that there was much riotous conduct iL the house till the representative of the owner departed, and that since that period they had held possession by forcible Means. In opening the case for the defence, Mr Trotter raised the point that, inasmuch as in everything the defendants did they were exercising a bona file claim of right, the jurisdiction of the justices were ousted, and in proof of this several authorities were quoted. In sup port of his assertion as to right, Mr Trotter said the pro perty had passed from the hands of his clients owing to cer tain forged wills, one of which was actually proved 10 years before the testator died. There was a long discussion on this point, and the magistrates, after retiring to consult, decided that they had power to hear the case, as the sta tutes of Richatd 11. and Henry VI. under which the pro ceedings were taken, seemed especially to meet cases such as the one they were then considering.—Mr Trotter then proceeded to discuss the merits of the charge, and stated that the men were in the house by permission of complain ant's co-executor on Burns's estate. He denied that there had been any forcible entry, and, as a consequence, there was not legally any forcible detainer. A great deal had been said about the wroneul doings of his clients, and it was said that Mr Taylor, the alleged owner of the property, was much to be pitied ; but surely, if anyone was to be pitied it was his client, whose family had by two gross acts of forgery been kept out of the property for along time. Many per- sons, no doubt, had bought some of the property not know ing these frets, and it would be hard on them, but he was instructed that the owners of an immense quantity of this Scholes land had bought it with their eyes open, knowing what was hanging over it.—The Magistrates' Clerk (Mr Part) said he had had to do with many titles in that district, and never heard of it; and several of the leading solicitors in the town who were in court made corroborative remarks —Mr Trotter said the case had been tried at the Lancaster Assizes in 1807, and a verdict had been obtained. He could not understand why the parties had not taken possession. He could prove that Burns had attorned tenant to his clients ; but if he could show that Swarbrick's co-executor, Prow, disowned these proceedings, there was an end of the case. After some consideration, the magistrates proceeded to the house of Prow, who was too ill to attend the court, and he stated that the proceedings were taken without his authority, and that when the defendants were repulsed on the 12th of October, he pointed out to them that they could re-enter at the back door. The Magistrates' Clerk advised the justices at once to dismiss the case, and the probeedings terminated,—The defendants were received outside the court with a hearty cheer; and the police evacuating the premises in dispute, they again entered, to the evident delight of a large crowd of spectators. Yes terday's proceedings leave the inhabitants of the town almost as much in the dark as ever as to the grounds of this singular claim. The claimants appear to possess a brief held by one of the junior counsel in a case tried at the Lancaster assizes in 187, Roe v. Tabley, and the evidence adduced shows, it is alleged, that a verdict was obtained in favour of the ancestors of the defendants in the case tried yesterday,a certain will under which the land was held being proved to be forged. The statement that the Manor-house is only a very small portion of the property claimed seems to be well grounded, and should there really be more in the affair than the leading solicitors in the town believe, no little litigation may be expected. A BRAVE LAD.—The Charleroi journals relate the following instances of fortitude on the part of a little boy only:eight years old, the son of a labourer named Malhaux, living at Farcinnes, Belgium. One evening, three weeks since, he was sent by his mother to fetch a loaf from a baker's on the opposite side of the railway. On his re turn, when passing a level crossing about 150 paces from the Farciennes station, he saw a train approaching, and in his alarm stumbled and fell. He nevertheless had the presence of mind to roll into the space between the rails and lie still. Unhappily, the clearing iron caught his blouse and dragged him along till the train stopped at the station, but the wheels had meanwhile passed over one of his arms and cut it nearly off. When liberated he exclaimed, looking at his mangled limb, " Pray, do not tell mother I" and asked the by. standers to fetch his loaf. It was found necessary to amputate the arm, and chloroform having been applied without producing insensibility, he bore the operation with the utmost courage, and only asked once or twice if the surgeons would soon have done. His arm is now healing. and the little fellow has returned to school as gay and cheerful as his companions. JUST TIIE PEOPLE FOR A SEANCE.—A correspou cleat of the Bombay Gazette, in the central provinces, relates an incident as having occurred at Reopen, which he had obtained - from a highly intelligent native gentleman of his acquaintance. He (the intelligent native) was with a great concourse of people at a fair held near the town of Raepore, and while sauntering with many other strangers in the fair, one of them began bargaining with two women of middle age for some very fine sugar-canes. The man got angry, and took up one of them, when the woman seized the other end, and a struggle ensued. The purchaser offered a fair price, the seller demanded double, The crowd looked on, and a good deal of abuse of the female relations on both sides took place. At last a policeman came up, and called out to the man to let go his hold of the sugar-cane. He re fused, saying " that when people come to the fair to sell, they should be made to sell at reasonable prices, or be turned out." I, said the informant, thought the man right, and told the policeman so, and that if he took the part of the woman we would take the man's part, and see fair play. Without further ceremony the Peeler with a knife cut the cane in two, in the middle, and pointing to both pieces, " There (said he) you see the cause of my interference." We looked and taw blood running from both pieces, and forming a pool on the ground. The fact was the woman was a sorceress of the very worst kind, and was drawing the blood from the man through the cane to feed the abominable devil from whom she derived her detestable powers; but for the timely interference of the policeman he would have been dead in another minute, for ho no sooner saw the blood than he fainted. 11'3 had hardly any blood left in him, and could not walk for ten days 1" SPIRIT OF THE PITI3LIC JOURNALS. TlMES.—England has every reason to be gratified with the reception heartily given to her Royal family, whatever country they happen to visit. Al though having no claim to that absolute power on which Royal magnificence principally prides itself, they carry with them a weight of character and an influence of position sufficient to satisfy the patriotic aspirations of the most vainglorious Briton. A signal instance of this was lately afforded by the reception of the Prince and Princess of Wales in Sweden. Nothing has been neglected that kindness and hospitality could devise in order to mark the goodwill of the Monarch and his people towards these illustrious guests. Their short stay at Stock holm was one course of the most brilliant and splendid entertainments. So it was in Denmark, though in more sober fashion, for Denmark sits in mourning. So we venture to say it would be in any Court in Europe to which the Prince and Princess of Wales might choose to pay a visit. No matter what the season of the year, no matter what the engagements and preoccupation of the moment, ' every other thought or employment would be set aside except the wish to ex tend to the Royal family of England the most munificent hospitality. Nor is this a matter between crowned heads alone. No doubt there is a natural wish to honour high birth and Royal descent in the persons of the noblest family in Europe. But the people of England also have their share in the compliment, and are quite disposed to acknowledge and discharge their share of the obligation. It cannot be said that these obligations of hospitality are discharged by Eng. land with the splendour and munificence befitting her wealth, the attention she receives from foreign countries, and her eminent position among the great Powers of the world. The melancholy ben reavement under which the queen has been suffer- ing for the last three years may well excuse her Majesty in the eyes of foreign countries,as of her own subjects, from taking any actiive part in scenes of ceremony or festivity. On these domestic feel ings her Majesty's faithful and dutiful subjects have no wish to intrude their opiniou, or to abridge the period which a great sorrow may claim as its own. But the presence of the Sovereign, although the highest ornament and the most attractive part of the nation's hospitality, is not absolutely indispen sable to its exercise. If the Royal family of Eng. land are to accept, as it is natural they should, the hospitality of the Royal families of Europe in suc cession, it is surely right that whoever represents this country should return a full equivalent. Great as is the amount of comfort, and even of luxury, en joyed by the residents of London, there is probably no capital on the Continent so forbidding in its aspect and poor in its means of receiving foreigners. It is the weak side of our national condition. We have never yet been able successfully to apply to our hotels those powers of organization and arrange ment which have enabled us to do so much in other departments of industry. On the Continent, where the palace is often more splendid than convenient, end the hotel at once magnificent and comfortable, there is no very deep descent from the abode of a great King to the resting-place of a humble tra veller. In London private life is very well cared for, and leaves little to be desired, but our hotels are still a mere refuge for the homeless, and an al. ternative which necessity compels us to accept. Such is our estimate of our own hotels, as shown by the immense cost at which the most fleeting visitors of the London season are ready to obtain a house which they might call their own. They would rather pay any sum within their power than be for a short month the inmates of an hotel, Yet this is the inevitable doom of our most exalted foreign visitors. Prince Christian of Denmark and his family were invited to England and had to take up their quarters at the Westminster Palace Hotel ; and when Prince Humbert of Italy came to England, a little while ago, it was as the guest of the Italian Minister, in■ stead of bring lodged in one of our Royal Palaces. Somehow or other in this country it is always the long vacation, or the short vacation, or the Court is out of town, or there is some other excellent reason fur not showing that hearty old English hospitality to our visitors which used to be the pride of the nation. No one can truly say that we provide for the wants of the Crown with a niggard or parsimo nious hand. The Civil List of the King of Sweden, who has just been giving so noble a reception to the Prince of Wales and his consort, amounts to about fifty thousand pounds a year. Surely, out of the abundance of our wealth and our prosperity wo ought to be able to afford as much as these hospitable Swedes. When this very King of Sweden visited England, three years ago, and when his brother, the enlightened Prince Oscar, came to us two years ago, they met with a reception very different from that which they gave to the Prince of Wales. They are now returning good for evil, and we confess to a certain feeling of humiliation when we reflect upon the attentions which we re ceive, and how little we have done to deserve them. Foreign Courts have little vacation, and are seldom so far from their capital as to be unable to return to it whenever the duties of their station invite them. They may not be on such good terms with their sub jects and their Parliaments, when they have any, as the Sovereigns of England, but they certainly deserve the goodwill of their own class by their openhearted kindness and boundless hospitality. Hospitality, we are told, is the virtue of a rude age and an undeveloped state of society, but so long as mankind shall gather themselves together into communities and select by descent or by election certain persons and families to represent them in the face of the world, they will look with interest upon the manner in which these represen tative duties are discharged. The noble palaces, the splendid parks, the vast collections of all that is beautiful in art or costly in material which our Sovereigns possess, were not designed simply for the use of the Royal family or this nation alone. They were meant to enable the chiefs of the State to exercise a worthy and becoming hospitality to those persons who come here with a claim to be considered the guests of England. In the present inability of the Head of the State to discharge in person this portion of the duties of Royalty, we seem to need some person corresponding to the office called Prozenos among the ancient Greeks, whose duty it was to entertain those who might be considered the guests of the State. The Prytaneum of Athens was ever open to illus. trious strangers. Oar Prytaneum seems to be one of those hotels of which we show our own estimate by using them as little as we can. The Lord- Lieutenant of Ireland, and even the Secretary to the Lord-Lieutenant, are expected, as part of the duties of their station, to maintain a suitable hos pitality, and the same thing is required of the admirals of our fisets and even the captains of our ships of war, however little able they may be to discharge the duty, It really ought not to be said that England is the only country in Europe in which it is not the practice to repay the hospitality which we receive. It is seldom that the individual Englishman is slow to acknowledge in his house in England the kindness he has met with in foreign lands. Ought England in her collective capacity to be liable to a reproach which her individual citi zens would eagerly repudiate? At any rate, it is fitting that some definite understanding should be come to on this subject. It has always hitherto been regarded, whether rightly or wrongly, as the duty and privilege of the Sovereign to represent the nation in the entertainment of guests of a rank corresponding to her own. If this duty is still admitted, we cannot but think that some plan should be hit upon for performing it without unduly trespassing on the retirement or hurting the feelings of any one, HERALD.—It is easy to find fault with the mes sage which the King of the Greeks has recently addressed to the National Assembly calling upon it to complete the constitution within ten days ; and if the critic knows nothing of the circumstances which drew forth the message, his indignation, assuming that fie is justified in offering an opinion upon a matter which he does not understand, is legitimate enough. But everybody who knows what has been the conduct of the Assembly, and the urgent need of some conclusion to its deliberations, will be inclined to excuse, if not to applaud, King George, or rather the experienced statesman who is his Mentor. For two years Greece has been without a constitution, and almost without law. The National Assembly which was elected after the expulsion of King Otho has passed a number of decrees, the main purpose of which has been to strike the enemies of the dominant party, or assure and prolong the Assembly's own power. Great excuse may be found for its proceedings anterior to the arrival of the King. Its that interregnum the men called at different times to the Government could hardly venture upon any real attempt to re establish order, or to project a constitution for re. generated Greece. The new King, whoever he might be, must be consulted as to the character of the cornd pact by which he was to be bound, and not know ing how to frame a definite law for the Assembly, expecting every week to be in a position to do se, was in no mood for discussing ulterior laws. But when the King arrived the Assembly had then no thing to do but to frame this constitution ; indeed it bad no right to do anything else. Its plain duty was to make the constitution as soon as possible, and thus give the country an opportunity of elect. lug a Legislative Chamber according to the terms of that constitution. But the members of the Na tional Assembly have made it their object rather to prolong their power. They have squabbled over every article of the constitution in en unseemly man ner. They have debated every clause at inordinate length, and, unable to convince each other by argue meats, hive had recnnue to blows. Twelve months have been wasted in this way by men who have shown themselves thoroughly wanting in real pa- triotism, and as thoroughly deficient in the abilitie: required for legislators. They had agreed to O a articles, but the time consumed in coming to tb! agreement was indicative that many months ni would elapse before they finished their task. A 01 3., all the time the country was without any real '0 vernment, without any settled law. The 1.. - og c° , l ll not act because uctil the constitution was seti leu s could not tell what were his powers or duties. Este . '! thing was in confusion ; the country was sufferieg terribly. All the ordinary necessary business of Parliament was at a standstill, and the King el l „ people had to see this ruin every day increas ie j e whilst the factions in the National Assembly jeng l l wrangled, and fought. But King George hed rig' to complain as an individual as well as a King jot!: rested in the welfare of his people. He accepted throne which Greece offered him, and wont there t; take up his abode amongst his new subjects, vei t l the understanding that a constitution should ° I once settle his position, define his powers, and P a him in possession of them. He has had to stay tho.; a year in a most awkward and embarrassing 11 08 . , tion, expected by his people to show them how roan better he was than Otho ; looked to as a sort °, Redeemer, and yet how utterly unable to set a to the restoration of order and the development the national resources; his popularity., his power° being useful to his people, his prospect of establ ie ' s : ing himself firmly upon the throne, were deeiud n away, and we think that he owed it to himself , owed it to Greece ; to take the steps which he 13t: done. As for the alleged unconstitutionality of t; proceeding, we confess we cannot discover it. the first place, there is no constitution confining t", King's action within any limits; and in the secoll his message is really nothing but a notice to tli„ Assembly that if it did not at once perform its p s , v i of the contract the King would hold himself relear from his obligations under it. He eaid nothing ra nor less than this—" I have waited for you to f ul l the conditions on the faith of which I accepted r 3; throne. I cannot wait any longer ; fulfil thew 11 ten days or I shall call off from the bargain." Aft, e o pointing to the length of time already consume al , discussing the constitution, and to the probabilitli of a further prolonged delay, he says, with gre l truth—" The prolongation of this position, whi c neutralises all governmental solicitude, and V itr a lyres all administrative action, not only unquest i l ably deprives the nation of precious advantages, bll will certainly cause evils which it will be difastl. A subsequently to repair. The impatience with whl.,, the people suffers this irregular condition of (Sal is known to me." He therefdre declares that be ready to accept the portion of the constitution Air es ': voted, and submits a draught for the r emaindo:, and requires the Assembly to vote upon it within tP,I days, declaring that if it does not he reserve himself full liberty as to his future course, which s'i l d be such as shall be dictated to ,him by his decei/o hopes; meaning, we may presume, that he Wa al abdicate the throne, heartily glad, no doubt, to F;1 rid of such an uncomfortable honour. The thr s e i had the desired effect, and the Kin 'e conduct e ft the further justification of success. The Assese b h ; voted the constitution within ten days, and i f ~"/, discontented party cannot succeed by another W I lution in upsetting everything, the new Legisle tl ; Chamber will soon be assembled and the conatk t o , tion at work. Of the character of the constita ti we are not yet in a position to judge, but therej no reason to assume that if the Assembly had b o allowed to continue squabbling it would have be at all butter than it is; and its defects, whee l , they may be, must not be attributed to the 8010 inter There really seems now to be a hope for Greece. The King seems to have a 'Nil his own, and the factions, finding that out, 0 4 bowed to it. What Greece wants is a strong Gesse'd ment—one that will resolutely set to work to rest t order and remove the abuses which have aeee lli b i lated during the two years of soscalled liberty, 0 real anarchy, of such a Government. The laist ° e of the country for the last thirty years show s th o can be no chance unless the Sovereign, taking initiative into his own hands, will disregard wo factions, whose sole object is place end power, life rally round him the people, tired of their pro °i sional politicians and eager for peace, order, ao material progress. A King who will uudertaheo: this way the redemption of Greece, and wt A ir show the plotters of disorder and the trade politics that he will not be their tool, may roc tit; in the apparently hopeless task of giving prosPe o o and order to Greece, and teaching her the dutY l lo the advantage of honesty. May King Georg° First of Greece prove such a real King. COUNTRY MARKETS. orv 46 LIVERPOOL-TUESDAY. There was a moderate attendance of town anu 4 e, i millers and dealers at market to-day, and the laustir" was of a more active character. Wheat, spring cp s Ip sold at id to 2d advance on the low sales of Tuesdol/ / Oats were more saleable at full prices, and oatmealv l P quoted at about 6d per load higher. Beans is dearei , e ' o ble . flour rather better prices were mace, and more g i e jr i Indian corn finds more buyers, and advanced fully qr. -- - LEEDS—TUESDAY. wee l The arrivals of English grain at our market this wore mt,derate, and the demand for wheat to.doirice not brisk, millers having to purchase at previous Pol l Barley about the same as last week. Beans and oats a little cheaper. tits Averages—Oct. 31—Wheat 40s Sid per - —Oats . 21s lid —Beans 40s lid •"' —Peas ..36s Sid —Barley 32s 31d —Rye ..33s Od MELTON MOWBRAY—TunsDAY. , Wheat came moderately to hand, but the denlatror d been fair, at about recent currencies. Barley in t os iot o request, at former quotations. Oats same as here h'! —The following were the currencies :—New white virooa 42s Od to 46s Od ; new red, 38s Od to 43s per 36 „s . ' 06; beans, 37s to 43s for old; new sorts, 358 to 37s per barley, 32s to 34s for malting, and 28s to 30s per ‘ 1 1“1/ grinding; new oats, 21s, to 24s Od p er 24 s tone; 43„ ' 4 to 28s. SHEFFIELD—TUESDAY. ill e The market was moderately attended, but both 1 : 61 and factors still bought slowly, and trade was dull I t ol rates. Flour maintained previous prices. Barley in,,'„" o , of the buyer. Beans a steady sale. Oats at late ra te Red wheat, per load of 3 imperial bushels...lss Od to n:1 \Vh:...l7s Od to !‘),,1 , Pr. „ . t o o - 14 , ,0, New red New white „ I, Beans . : 1 15 1 5 6 s s s:G d d d to 1,,,,i 7) 1) Peas, per qr Grinding barley, per qr Malting ditto, ~ 4 3 0 2 5 s Od od t t o o 4 ,:) .. 5 : : : 28s Od to ?,`As O 22s Od to b Oats 1, Flour, Is 5d to is 10d per 14 lb. Foreign Mail Packet List. MAILS DUE. Australia and Mauritius, via Southampton. •. NO' ii' via Marseilles Nov' 4, Brazil and Cape Verds, by British packet. No nfr Cape of Good Hope, Ascension, and St. H e l en a..._,N os A China, Penang, and Singapore, via Southampton..r 4° ,;lf via Marseilles l4 °.' Falkland Islands Gibraltar, via Southampt on isi of' 1. India (Calcutta), and Ceylon, via Southampton •1\1 -41 ' 4, via Marseilles N ° '' l' India (Bombay), via Southampton N N o ol , b. 4 via Marseilles P0rtuga1.......... 4. No Malta, lf,gypt, and Aden, via Southampton N. via Marseilles No/' Newfoundland Oporto and Vigo U. S. and British N. America, by Brit. packet 'O . ' by U.S. packet ...,. , 4 by Canadian pack et..DI ° 11 All parts of West Indies, including Chili, Peru, t Nol . California. and British Columbia. i Births. P IP ! BURBURY.—On the Ist inst., at CO, Boundary-roam John's-wood, the wife of S. ITawksley BurburYl of a son. .10 BAILARD.—On the 30th ult.. at I'embroke, South 18 , the wife of Comulander J. B. Ballard, lt,Isl„ of a , 11 ter. LISTER.—On the let inst., at Leytonstone, the - Arthur Lister, of a son. Marriages. S BO WTELL —RICHMOND.—On the _ 29 th _tilt., Stratford-le-Bow, Mr. Albert Bowtell, of ,0 road, Hackney, to Lydia, daughter of Mr. J. Ric' 4 e o of Victoria-park. HARKER-WE w.—On the 27th ult., at St.Thoma9,o4ollt William Jarvis, third son of the late George , 4 48 d Esq., of Upper Thames-street, London, to Julia, 'foe ter of Thomas Parker Mew, Esq., of Newport; Wight. P rool o Deaths. t Shy AUSTIN.—On the _ u. Austin, Esq., aged 50, 0 BIIO4IIEWA.Y.—On the 31st ult., at Stoke Newington f Alesr. Brockway, aged 74. e l. BADHAII.—On the 31st ult., at Old Charlton, the P' 13adham, INLA , aged 25. ll's' 29th .t., at .d, B, HALL.—On the Ist inst., at 9, London-street, Jr. - Hall, of Fenchure'a-street, aged 71. LB LEECH.—On the 29th ult., at Kensington, Mr. Joh n aged 47. 11°' PINILORN.—On the 31st ult , at Islington, James R.N., aged 70. , 00 07 ROUND.—On the 30 th alt., at Brixton, John 14 131- ' / Esq. SI L VESTER —On the 30th ult., at Spencers Ferret ~,gt.P head, Berks. Mr. Silvester, of 51, Aldgate city, aged 52. London : Printed and Prbltsited by WILLIAM A:" - s o ;4'4' ( of No. 112, Strand, Printer, at Ina Slav 01 1 ' 3° , 1 40" St ran d, in the Precinct of the Savoy, 71 th e AlicialoeaC,7Wedaesday, November 2, 180.