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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, Dzc. 17. . , The Lien CneNcruant did not take hie seat until Twenty Minutea past Five o`elock. The 'Nebo') of LONDON presented a petition from a Owe in the county of Essex, praying for the abolition of slavery. The Duke of DEVONSHIRE presented a petition from a place in Ireland, against a repeal of the Union. Lord KING said he had several petitions to pre sent from various places in Ireland and Scotland, the prayer of which might be summed up in a few words. The petitioners prayed for cheap law, cheap corn, cheap coals, cheap Government, free trade, and a Reform in Parliament.—(Hear, anti laughter.) With the hatter pert of the petition be mita say, that if the re presentation of the people in England was bed, that in Scotland was much worse, it was a mere farce. Its perfeetinn in this respect must exceed even the imae girrition of the Noble Duke opposite (Wellington), who could net " conceive any thing so perfect." He would now present two of the Scotch petitions, the one was from Artiroeth, end the other was from the county of Renfrew. This latter petition was certainly not very intelligibly worded, end it contained a passage against which he had been informed that their Lordships might possibly take some objections. In the firm place, the petitioners en treated their Lordships to counsel the people, which was whai their Lordships did not often do.—(A laugh. )--But the next was, that their Lordships were nut only to couneel the people, but they were to counsel them not to submit to nneonetitutional Representatives imposing tin-' necessary taxation. He did not think that this was lan guage which ought to prevent the reception of the petition by the Howie, nor did he think that it ought to induce their Lordship not to pay attention to the prayer of the pe;titioners. There were sums parts of the petition which eertairily were not very intelligible; hut if their Lordships came to a resolution of rejecting petitions because they were not intelligible, be was afraid that the right of peti tioning: Parliament would be very sensibly abridged. He should now move that the petition be laid on the table. The Earl of 11ADDINGTON moved that the petition be read at length. The petition being read by the clerk at the table, The Earl of ETA DDINGTON wished his Noble Friend to consent to withdraw the petition. Ile had no wish to impede the practice of petitioning that Hours, and much less did ha wish to throw any obstacle in the way of the present petition, as it was the first of the sort that bad as yet been received front a Seotch county ; but he ohjeeted to the language of the petition, and trusted that his Noble Friend would consent to withdraw it. • Lord KING did net think the petition of so objection• able a nature that he was authorized to withdraw it. The petition had•been agreed to at a county meeting. It ca. tainly did not look as if it came from Scotland, for parts a it were not intelligible, and it prayed their Loidehips to court el the people, the very last thing which their Lord ships would do. As the petition likewise prayed for relief against excessive taxation, he could not consent to with draw it. • Lord DUNCAN would bear testimony to the increasing anxiety of the people of Scotland upon the subject of Re form. The rine of the absolute necessity of a Reform was gaining ground rapidly amongst every clays of people thimighout Scotland. The boroughs in Scotland were in a much worse condition than the counties with respect to the representation, anti even for Edinburgh the Member Was returned by only three voters. Since the last census, the populatiou of Scotland had much increased; mid, taking the lower and middling orders of society throughout the • country, there was as much information as in the same' grades of any population throughout Europe; and he ' would put it to their Lordships whether it was possible that such a people could be blind to their absolute degra elation, under such a system of returning Members to Par liament. The people of Scotland, it was true, had hitherto been silent upon the subject, but let not Noble Lords iota . glue that it was the silence of apathy, for it had been that of hopelessness and despair. His Majesty, most forth ' noddy for the safety of the country, had been pleased to put at the heart of the Government, a Nobleman long cele brated fur his wisdom as well as for being the friend of • Reform ; and this fact had revived the wishes of Scotland, which had previously been dormant. Ile would avow • that he had confidence in the Noble Earl's intention to effect A neutral ; and he know that before many weeks their Lordships' table,woulti he covered with petitions from Scotland ite support oft het measure. Lund ELLENIiOROUGH did not see any reason why the petition should not be received by their Lordehips. Earl GREY thought that the petition might have been better worded, lie was always extremely unwilling to take hersh or illiberal measures with respect to petirione, and in the present case Le was very unwilling to object to the petition, hut he could not but consider it improper for any petitioners to urge their Lordships to advise the people to resist the other House of Parliament as a body of repre sentatives, illegtiliy and uneonstitutionally dawn. This, in hie opinion, was going rather beyond the usual language of petitions, and be should object to receiving it, on the ground that it called, upon their Lordships to give advice to the people to exert a railKtitriCtt to legal authority. lie did hope that hie Noble Friend would adopt the suggestion that had been thrown out, anti withdraw the petition. Lord' KIN(.; would not wish to press the petition against the views of the Noble Earl, and he would there fore coment to withdraw it. The Earl of HADDINGTON said, that he had no hesitation in acknowledging that the feelings in favour of RelOrm were growing rapidly throughout Scotland. The people were completely diseatistied with the borough re preeentetion, .and as the system no longer had the cool'. deuce of the people, it was impossible that it could work well. Ile would go farther, and say, that it was an abso lute impossibility fur any man, whatever his station, or however wilfully blind, not to are that a very great change of opinion upon the subject had been recently produced throughout every part of the empire. In this point of view he h It himself compelled to consider the subject, and the only point was to vcertain where to make a stand against t ,, oi , e disaffected persons who wished nut for Reform but for lotion. The Noble Earl at the head of his Majesty's tiovernment bad declared, that in reforming Parliament he would be cautious to preserve the institutions of the country, end be should come to the question with an anxious desire to give his support to the Noble Earl and to repose confidence in his measures. The Earl of FIFE thought that some latitude ought to be given to the language used in petitions, and more espe cially a petition that emanated from the warmth of the people in favour of Reform. Ile trusted that the Noble Earl (Grey) would be able to give a fres representation to those large towns that were now unrepresented, or the, re presentation of which was corrupt or imperfect. Lord denied that the Scotch *piton . ' of represen tation nolked well for the people of Seotland, though it certainly worked well fur those who enjoyed the monopoly of it, and who possessed thereby the power *1 laying on the taxer. Ile denied that the object of those who called for Reform WAS revolution, and he maintained that the en listing of the middle classes in the cause of Reform, was the lisAt and only security against revolution in the present character of the time*. The Ertl of lIADDINGTON explained, that his re math: is to the working well of the present system of representation was not applied to Scotland particularly, but was applied to the general amain of roprenentation throughout the empire, NlArquia of BUTE &nivel that the people of Scot lend felt thernselvea oppressed or degraded. Whe n h e heard such a statement mule in proof that the people of Scotland wanted Reform, lie altogether douhted that they entertAord any such deeire, lie conitended that Scotland was well aatisfled with her repreeentatices, or that their Lord•diips would have heard to the contrary long since. It Iran a new thing - to hear it 'said that the people of Scot land were nut well repreaented..—(flear, hear, from Lord Kitty.) The Noble Lord might cry "Hear, hear," but, in fact, the old story won, that the people of Scotland were too well represented, for they had been accustomed to hear of oithing but Scotch Jobs._ Lord DUNCAN, as e proof that the people of Scotland Were not well represented, stated that a few pare ago the Lord Advocate and a majority of the Scotch representatives voted against the removal of a stigma upon the Preshy teiians. The Earl of DARNLEY concurred with the Noble Lord (Ellenl.nnougb) in the opinion that this was nut the proper occaiion for discosaing the question of Reform. At the same time he wished to *tate, that be always felt con vinced that there Why much in the representation of the people in the other House of Parliament which requited Reform. He was persuaded that the question of Reform - Onidd'uot now be evaded or delayed. Hut would advise liir Nohl, Friend at the head of his Majesty's Government, mid their Lordships, not to refs tin, through the fear of goi tlg to o far, from doing that which was necessary to itit- OlfY the !public mind in this eventful crisis. lie was ilUtf, thrit Lordships would have more to answer for lion any other prison in the empire, if they did nut satisfy the public raper:Latium' upon the fitltttinr, of Reform. To tfrect that tinOfe must be some waaritival, and he was eoltli= dent they would not satisfy the publics:expectations if the di re ct nomination of Altibline of thellOutie of Commons by P eer s of that Hones wets nut taken away. Lord KING presented k yeti tioe (mut the overcame and inhabitant householders of &thou-hill, against ths par°. politan police. His Lordship stated that his own opinion I Was, that the new police constituted a great improvement upon the old watch. The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition from the eastern division of the county of Sussex, complaining of county assessments, and praying for a repeal of taxes, and particularly for a rep•al of the duty on malt. The Moulins of CLANRICAItOR presented a petition from the working carpenters of the city of Dublin, praying for a repeal of the Union, and a similar petition front a place in Galway. NORFOLK CIRCUIT. Lord CALTHORPE Wished to put a question to the Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsack, with regard to the Norfolk Circuit. That Circuit had experienced con siderable and singular inconvenience for some years, owing to the circumstance of only one Judge of Assist going that Circuit. Such hail been, unhappily, the increase of of• fences latterly, that the most serious inconvenience and in jury had arisen, from there being but a single Judge on that Circuit to discharge the various duties which devolves' upon him. lie wished to know from the Noble and Learned Lord, now that there bad been the appointment of some additional new Judges, if it was intended to make any arrangement to remedy that inconvenience ? The LORD CHANCELLOR said that the subject ad verted to by the Noble Lord was certainly one of great im portance ; and, undoubtedly, serious inconvenience bad been felt for many years from the want of two Judges going the Norfolk Circuit in spring and autumn. He (the Lord Chancellor) was one of those who deeply regretted such an inconvenience, and who only submitted to it froM the ne cessity of the case, there being too few Judges to do the business of the country. Twelve Judges had been long considered sufficient ; but now that three additional Judger had been appointed by his Majesty's late Govern ment, with the sanction of the whole profession, and in conformity with the wishes of the public, there was no etence whatever that only one Judge should go the Nor folk Circuit. He saw no reason why it should not be otherwise ; perhaps some persons better acquainted with the matter might think that the whole arrange mint should continue, but, for his part, he (the Lord Chancellor) could not discover the shadow of a reason why the evil complained of should not be remedied. Two of the additional :lilies would he allotted to the new circuit which had been made, and one would be thus left un appropriated. Now, he would say, and the person who held the Great Seal had usually a voice in such a matter, that is would be better that two Judges should go the Norfolk Spring Circuit, and that for that purpose the additional Judge left unappropriated should he selected. Ile was of opinion that neither the Norfolk Circuit nor the Midland Circuit should be seen with only one Judge going it, assisted by a serjeant or some other substitute. He might, perhaps, be permitted to take this opportunity to advert to some suggestions whisk hr understood had been thrown out elsewhere, respecting certain appointments vested in l'ie hands of the Lord Chancellor. The suggestions to which he alluded regarded the Court of C'hencery, and the disposal of the patronage of the great seal ; and, as they had been described as worthy of his attention, he rhould give them all the consideration which they deserved. It had been said in another place that be (the Lord Chancellor) had taken upon himself to name an attorney to a place which would ha more fitly filled by a barrister. He certainly felt the propriety of that suggestion, and he had endeavoured to fill the places, the disposal of the ap pointments to which was vested in him, with barristers. Bat the great difficulty to be encountered in aecomplishing that, object arose from this rireurostance—that the great seal was only held during pleasure, and that on the Lord Chancellor's going our, his Secretary, and the other officers whom he might have appointed, were turned out with hin►. It was impossible, therefore, for the Lord Chancellor to call upon a barrister to sacrifice his pro fession for a place of that description, and to leave the bar, for perhaps only a few years, or a few months. On the other hand it required a person of considerable experience u liminess to discharge the great and important duties at :ached to the office of Secretary in the Court of Chancery. It was absolutely necessary, for the proper administra tion of justice, that the office should he filled by a person of experience, and no barrister of experience would at, cept of it. Ile (the Lord Chancellor) had tried in vain to get an experienced barrister to take it. Now if the placo were given to an inexperienced barrister, the duties would not be performed, and thus would arise a great And grand evil, worse by many degrees than the mischief complained of respecting the appointment of solicitors— namely, that it was giving them au undue means of show , ing favour to the suitors in the. Court in which they prac tised. He begged to state that the persons filling the aims throe alluded to in the departments to which he had the power to appoint, had renounced all their private proles shutl practice in the departments in which they were em ' played under the Great But if a barrister, who in tended to go back to his profession, filled one of those situations, there might he greater danger of his making friends amongst the suitors in the Court, in order that he might have their aid when lotreturned to his profession. Ile spoke only of what might possibly occur, constituted as human nature was. That certainly was felt by his pre decessors, and the °dives to which allusion had been math , had been held by solicitors very recently, with the excep tion of one pl lee. He did not suppose that any charge was intended to he made against him with regard to the general d isposal of the patronage attached to his office. No man could consider that patronage a greater burden than he did ; and there was nothing he wished more to ' get rid of. It was the usual practice when a new Lord Chancellor Wag appointed, to dismiss all the individuals who held office tinder his predecessor. Now when he (the Lord Chancellor) was appointed to the. Great Seal, his first observation was, that he would not dismiss one of the individuate who held office under the former Lord Chan cellor. lie was told, however, that it was absolutely necessary to theorise two confidential secretaries who, in consequence of the matters confidentially intrusted to them by his predecessor, tout,' not be retained ; he retained, however, five nut of seven persons who tilled situations under his predecessor, and one of them, a Learned Gentle man whom he had appointed to a particular Ake, Ire had never sten until he came to thank him (the. Lord Chan rellur) for doing so. He could declare, that no human being that he had ever known or seen before, had received an appointment from him in Church or State, with the exception of two individual*, from private motives, and the nature of those motives, lie was sure, would he properly appreciated by their Lordships and the public, when he mentioned the mimeo of Romilly and Clarkson, as those of the two patrons whom lie had so appointed.—(hear.) The Colonial Avis Validity Bill went through Com mittee, and was ordered to be reported. Adjourned at Twenty minutes to Seven o'clock till Monday next. HOUSE OF COMMONS, Dre. 17. ILCIIESTER ELECTION. Mr. GREEN brought up the report of the Commit tee on the Ilehester Election, which declared that the sit ting Members had been duly elected ; but that the peti tion against their return, and the opposition to it, were neither frivolous nor vexatious, Mr. LEADER moved for a new writ for 'Beerhsiston, in the room of Lord Lovaine, now Earl of Beverley. 'fhe SPEAKER said, as the Noble Lord had not yet hart a sulattiona to attend the House of Peers, he begged the lion. Member to postpone his motion for the present. —Postponed. Mr. U, DAVIS presented four petitions from Bristol, p4iying for a repeal of the House, Window, and Assessed 'Taxes. Mr. LABOUCIIERE prevented a petition from Somer mdahire, praying for the repeal of the Award Taxes. An Ibm, Manne:u. presmited a petition from Manches ter and its neighbourhood, and another from Bromley, praying for a repeal of the Duty on Printed Cotton.. The petition war supported by Mr. Green, Mr. D. W. Hervey, Alderman Weithman, Mr. Drybdale, Sir J. Newport, and Mt. 11.,berly. CORBETT'S REGISTER. Lord PALMERSTON requested of the 'fon. Member opposite (Mr. Trevor) to postpone the motion of which he had given notice last night. lie made this request on account of the absence of the Noble Lord (Althorp), who represented the Government in that House, having been suddenly called from town iu consequence of a severe domestic calamity. Mr. TREVOR Asked what day would he convenient. Lord PALMERSTON hoped by Thursday next the. Noble Lord would be able to Attend. If, however, any thing should prevent his doing so by that time, he could as sure the Hon. Member that Ministers would not ask for further delay. Mr. TREVOR contented to postpone his motion on Thursday next. SEA-BORNE COALS, Lord JAMES STEWART presented a petition from Neith, praying for repeal or rtdoetion of the duty on Sea borne Coals; which, after a few words from Mr. TLI(.. N A NT, WA* laid on the table. NEGRO SLAVERY. Lord JAMES STEWART presented a petition against Slavery from Cambridge. Mr. BLOUNT presented a petition to the same effeci from the Roman Catholics of Sheffield. Mr: W YSE presented petitions from Fettled], and from (Aber places in the county of Tipperary, praying for a re psat of tilt 'Union. The Ilea. Mager dwelt upon the tresses of the people of Ireland, expressing a hope that Go• vernment would propose some substantive measure for the re lief of that country. Un'ess some other Member snore com petent than himself—or unlesa Government came forward with some measure of their own, he wished to be under stood as giving notice that upon an early day he should himself make a motion on the subject. Mr. C. lIUL\VRR presented a petition from a person of the name of Hudson, and another of the city of Water ' ford, against any further grant to the Ordnance of Ireland (as we understood); the Hon. Gentleman also presented a petition from West Lone, against slavery. IRISH LINEN TRADE—RULES OF THE HOUSE. Sir R. BATESON presented a petition from Alexander Barrett, a linen merchant, of Dublin, complaining of the distress of that trade, and attributing it, among other things, to the wsnt of an additional duty on cotton. Be fore 1826 there had been a protecting duty for the trade; anti the Hon. Gentleman was of opinion'that it had.been of great service. It now, however, was thrown open, and the consequence was that though the large capitalist was able to make a fortune, yet it operated unfavourably with respect to the working classes. The petition which be was then presenting was only one of a series which would be laid before the House after the recess, praying for the encouragement of that staple manufacture of Ireland; and he begged to observe, that now that there was such an attempt making to produce excitement about the repeal of the Union, the House could not do better than endeavour to better the condition of the working classes, which would he the means of ensuring tranquillity to that country. Mr. MABERLY could not allow the petition to be read without stating it as his opinion, that the very thing that was prayed fur would operate as the ruin of the work ing classes. What the lion. Gentleman had asked for was to put a duty on the raw material—on cotton. Nothing could be more unwise ; and he (Mr. Maberly) would rather see a bounty than a duty on its importation, except that the true principle was non-interference alto gether.—(Hear, hear.)—When a Committee had sot on this subject, he had stated in his evidence before that Com mittee that Leland would lose its linen trade. And what was the reason ? Because it was not applying dne skill in its manufacture, while, on the other hand, England and Scotland were turning a very close attention to it. The result of this must be, that the trade would disappear from Ireland, and it was this, in fact, that was in pro gress, and of which the Hon. Gentleman Ivae:complaining. Sir R. BATESON begged to explain, that he had net advocated the laying on an additional duty on cotton ; all he had done was, to state that the petitioner was in favour of such c measure. Mr. O'GORIHAN MAHON said that the real history of any decision in the linen trade, or in any other trade of Ireland, was the want of capital there, so as to make it competent to cope with the richer parts of the empire. As to any excitement nr agitation in Ireland, he denied that any existed there, if by that term was meant anything that led to rebellion and insurrection. To be sure, if it was merely meant that people felt warmly when their in terms were concerned, there was no occasion to deny that ; but in other respects the whole of Ireland was in state of the profoundest tranquillity ; and he would take upon himself to say, that that tranquillity had emanated from the agitation that had previously existed on the ques tion of religion, and when agitation was called for and neuessary. The consequence of what had then been done was, that now the Orangeman and Catholic were daily shaking bands, and feuds on the score of religion had en tirely ceased. WAITIIMAN complained of these discussions upon petitions. He had been attending three or four nights running to present a petition, and had always found from lion. Gentlemen indulging in such long speeches, that before his turn same, the time allotted by the House for the presentation of petitions bad elapsed. lie must claim the right, on the part of the people, of having their petitions heard, if he sat there all night. HUME said, that when the restrictions on the linen trade were taken off as respected Scotland, the same offer WWI ►node to Ireland ; but the representatives of that country withstood the otter. The consequence was, that Ireland wa• now feeling the ill effects of that, and her trade was rapidly slipping into Scotland and the North of England. Mr. C. FERGUSON said, that with respect to what had just dropped from the worthy Alderman, he thought that unless some other arrangement was made, the petitions of the people might as well be at once thrown aside. He hod attended five dap in his place to present a petition, and though he had always been down at the House by twelve or one o'clock in the day, and set his oasis down immediately, he hail no opportunity of so doing. He therefore trusted that the rule for public busi ness to continence at five o'clock, which was now existing, would undergo some modification and restriction. The SPEAKER said, that the rule made by the House was, as he understood it, that he should come down to the House at three o'clock, and that the public business should commence at five. But though the presentation of petitions was interrupted at five o'clock, an opportunity was again given fur the purpose after the public businCal was despatched ; and he begged to say that he had never failed, after the public business was over, to go through the remainder of the Petition List. With respect to the Hon. Gentleman, who ;puke last, his name had been in cluded in that remainder, and had invariably been called on.—(Rear, hear.) Mr. C. FERGUSON had no idea that ha had been called on after the termination of the public business. It might not he inconvenient to hint, but he was sure that it would be to many lion. Gentlemen to wait to so late an hour. Sir M. W. RIDLEY bore testimony that he had heard the Speaker call, perhaps, as many as twenty names Over on one evening at the close of business, and he (Sir M. W. Ridley) was the only one present. The non presentation of petitions, therefore, was lion. Gentlemen's own fault.— (Hear, hear.) Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN said that he bad been prevented staying so late by illness. The SPEAKER said that Hon. Gentlemen might be incapacited by illness; but at all events it was possible to attend, and if any did attend he did it also.—(llear, hear, and a 1au411.) The petition was then ordered to be printed. PATENTS CONTINUATION BILL. On the motion of Mr. Er.r.rex this Dill was read a third time and passed. CONSOLIDATED FUND. This Bill went through a Committee, the House re 'tuned, and the report was ordered to be received to morrow (this day.) COLONIAL TRADE BILL. Mr. C. THOMSON said, that he hall to propose that this bill should be postponed till after the holidays as there were many important interests involved in the measure, end the present Government was anxious to have an oppor_ tunity of giving theta due consideration before they made a proposition of any measure to the House. Mr. HERMES had no objection to the postponement, though Ill! wau sorry that any delayohould take place on s important a queution. lie could assure the Houle, however, that the Bill already before it had been fully considered by the Members of the late Government, and that every endeavour had been made to meet theinteresta of time, moat concerned in the measure. Mr. ROBINSON had one or two queltione to ask, and he would take this opportunity of doing so. From the eorrypondenee between the American Minister end Lord Aberdeen, it appeared that we had conceded to the United. Stales the principle of a direct intercourse between the United States and our West India Colonies, Into this • most injurious arrangement he would not enter at present, but when the time arrived, he should be able to show iris. sistibly that to grant such a pi meiple, without equivalent, was most unadvisable. The late President of the Board of Trade bail stated, th tt in en doing the Government had acted on the principles of Ale. Canning and Mr. thiskieson ; but he denied that this was the case, and he could positively state that Mr. Ihiskiteoo, shortly before his death, declared that be never would agree to euc . h an a rrangement w i t h out an equivalent, and that it was d irectly contrary to the feel. logs of Mr. Canning on the subject. Ile therefore thought that he bud a right to complain, for in I S'26 Canning, and afterwatde Lord Dudley, had stated that they never would consent to the concession of that prin ciple without an equivalent. On the faith of that asser tion the merchants of Canaria arid our Colonies in Nor th America bad embarked their capital. But row this very principle wee conceded. lie had rod the correspondence between Mr. Maclean and the Earl of Aberdeen, and he could see nothing in it but the greatest arrogance on the part of America—first making claim s to which she had not the slightest pretence, and th en t h reatening, i f t h ey were not conceded. In his opinion, th at correspon d ence was a disgrace to the Adm in i atsation under which it was carried on. One of the questions which he wished to ask of the Right lion. Gentlemen (Mr. P. Thomson) was, whether the present Government (after the late Govern ment had conceded the principle of a direct intercourse between the United States and Our W es t I n di a possess i on s, reserving to themselves the right of reg u l at i ng th e i r duties, as the Americans were to have the right of regulating theirs) was not aware that Mr. Maclean was re-openine the negociation, thereby daring —and he used the word advisedly—to interfere with this Government in the re gulation of their duties; and the consequenee of which would be, that, after the recess, another schedule of duties would be pot forward? He alto Wished to ask the Bight Hon. Gentleman below him (Mr. Berries), whether the late Government bad not written out to the usual officers at the Canadaa, stating a scale of duties, and that such were to be considered official? He wished to know po sitively if the Right lion. Gentleman sanctioned the scale of duties which had been sent out to the colonies, and whether official notice of that scale were sent to all the colonies, as that to which the Government was determined to adhere? The lion'ourable Member then censured in strong terms the conduct of the late Govern• ment, which, he said, had tended to confer great ad vantages on the inhabitants of the United States. Our Ministers had been completely outdone by the superior diplomatic skill of Mr. Maclean, who had shown himself far better informed than our negociators in all that con cerned the interest of our Colonies, as well as in all that concerned the interests of the United States. If there were any Power of which we ought to be jealous it was the United States. She already almost equalled this great maritime country in the extent of her shipping ; and while the measure under discussion would tend to dry up one source, anti the principal source of our national wealth—he meant our shipping, it woulei add 200,000 tons to the shipping of the United States. The lion. Member concluded by requesting the Government to in form him if it was now carrying on negociations with Mr. Maclean relative to this subject, and he requested his lion. Friend below him to answer the question he had put to hint. Sir H. PARNELL advised his Right Hon. Friend op posite (on tits Ministerial bench) not to answer the ques tion of the Hon. Member, for it was plainly not their duty to give him any information concerning an ex isting neenciation, which might materially injure its pro gress. With respect to the Bill brought is by the Right Hon. Gentleman the Member for Harwich (Mr. !Terries) he must oay that it was a direct violation of the Treaty we had concluded with the United States. There could be no doubt that negociations were going on, for the American Minister would nut fulfil his duty if he were not to endeavour t• atop the progress of the measure. That negociation must, however, lead to a new transaction. His Right Hon. Friend could not adopt the principle of the UN proposed by the Right Hon. Member for Harwich. Before that Bill could pass, if the Government meant to pass it, he would call for a copy of the correspondence between Mr. Maclean and his Majesty's Government. The principle of the Bill brought in by the Right Hon. Member for Harwich was the old principle of protection fur our Colonies and prohibition for other people. Mr. HERRIES—The question before the House was, whether or not the Bill should be postponed : and on that occasion he would not, nor was it fair to discus• the Principles of the measure. He regretted that having already spoken, he was unable to answer the observations of the Hon. Member, as he attacked the Government, which were as capable of being answered as the remarks of his Hon. Friend. Ile had never heard statements more susceptible of being answered, he had never heard assertions made more contrary to truth, nor bad he ever heard greater mistakes than had been made and commit ted. If he were not prevented by the forms of the House, he would expose the fallacy of these assertions by one single circutuatance, and he regretted that he was unable to do so. Ile denied positively that ever Mr. Canning had said that he would open the trade of the Colonies to the Americans. Ile had always stated, that if the American Govanoment would withdraw its regula tions of 1821 and 1823, he would then consider of open ing that trade. As to what his Hon. Friend (Sir H. Parnell) said, he must observe that to declare, during a pending negociation, that our Government was entirely in the wrong, was itself highly wrong. Nothing could be more injurious. He should be ready to demonstrate, on any proper occasion, that the Americans were alto gether wrong and the English Government altogether right. In fact, the Americans had not a shadow of right fur their claims. The question was, whether we had a right to regulate the transfer trade of our own colonies in relation to a foreign State. Any Minister who should say that we had not such a power would not be worthy of holding effice fur a moment. The Right Hon. Gentleman concluded by apologising for saying so much, and begging th e House not to draw any conclusion unfavourable to his views fir not having said more, as he was not at liberty to answer the observations of the two Hon. Members With respect to the scale of duties mentioned by the Hon. Alembers, he must say, that no official information could be given to the colonies that such would be the scale of duties, because that had to be settled by the Parliament, and could not be settled by the Comment. At the same time the persons connected with the colonies, who had access to the public offices, and must have such access, ben certainly reason to believe that such a scale would lie adopted, and they had probably sent such information to the colonies. Sir H. PARNELL and Mr. ItoniNsoN explained. Mr. HUME deprecated the language used by the lion. Member (Mr. Robinson) as to America, and condemned the Bill ao contrary to the interest of the United States and our own West India Colonies. An 'lox. NIIMItIM hoped that when the Bill was again brought forward the question would be discussed in conjunction with the general question, and not on any partial pound. Mr. POULETT THOMPSON declined to answer the question of the Hon. Member, and lamented that he should have indulged in such language against America. If that Power has injured us, redress could be better obtained by calm remonstrance than angry expressions. The second reading of the Bill was then postponed till February 11. LABOURERS. The second reading of the Labouring Poor Bill (Lord Nugent's measure) was, after a few words from his Lord ship, Colonel Sibthorpe, Mr. Sadler, and some other lion. Members, postponed till February 10. The Judgment and Execution Bill went through a Committee, and was ordered to be reported without amendments to-morrow. CARRICKFER3US ELECTION. Sir ROBERT INGLIS moved that a petition he had presented to the House yesterday evening, from Lord George Hill, stating that some of the names signed to the petition from CArrickfergus, complaining of his return, hail been forged, be referred to a Committee. Sir A. CHICHESTER opposed the motion, and stated that he was ready to defer the petition complained of. After a few words from Lord l'Atattarrox, Mr. Hour, and Sir lasts' GILAUAM, Sir A. CHICHESTER bore testimony to the cha racter of some of the petitioners, and denied that the state ments against them were substantiated. The motion Was then agreed to, and a Committee ap pointed forthwith to report on the petition to the House. _ _ THE LABOURING POOll. Mr. CIIRTEIIi, in presenting a petition from Sussex, took occasion to make some observation" on the state of the labouring poor, and declared he had conversed with many farmers, who one and all asserted that they never paid less than twelve shillings a week to any description labourers, whether married or single. For his part, although it had been stated that be paid to his own Is bourers Is. 9d. a day, be invariably paid as., with the option of their taking piece work, if they pleased. The agricultural interests were, however, in such a state of des titution, that they must, would, and should be protected. —(hear.) hlr. BRISCOE, in alluding to the condition of the Is. bnurers, said he was satisfied the only remedy for their distress would be found in the extension of the system 01 spade labour in the cultivation of ground allotted to them for that purpose. Mr. LONG WELLESLEY bore testimony to the ef ficacy of this system. Itt a part of the county of Essex, near Tilbury fort, six or seven hundred of the labourers who had been in a state of insurrection were reduced to quietude and comparative comfort, by the immediate adop tion of the system of spade labour. Ile deprecated, how ever, the discussion of these and other vitally important subjects on the mere presentation of a petition, and in the presence of WI small a number of Members. Sir JOHN SEIMIGIIT had devoted a good deal of his attention to the subject of spade labour, and actually allotted gardens to persons in his own parish, who were by no means connected with hid property. Ile found, how ever, that all projects of that kind lAiled. lord NUGENT knew in many eases that persons who p a id fifteen shillings of rent and two shillings of poor-rates for a rood of land, had actually earned five pounds by the cultivation of potatoes with spade Labour. Ile was con vinced that land let at a high rent for spade labour would produce an adequate return for the support of the labourer and the relief of the rates. Sir J. SEBRIGHT said in explanation, that on a large scale he was sure it would fail. Mr. BRISCOE, in explanation, considered half an acre sufficient for the object they had in view with respect to spade labour. Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN begged to give notice that on the 15th of February he would submit to the House a str ing of resolutions, showing the destructive tendency of the present general depreciation of property. Mr. SLANEY attributed much of the existing evil to the perversion of the Poor Laws which had taken place in some parts of the country. Mr. WARBURTON reprobated the terms of the de claration by the Hon. Member for Sussex , .—that, the agricultural interest must, would, and should be protected. Such hingaige nee calculated to increase the existing ex citement. _ Colonel SIBTHORPE coincided in the opinion ex pressed by the Hon. Member for Sussex respecting the necessity of protecting the agricultural interest. After a few words from Mr. Iltithven, Mr. Duncombe, Mr. P. Courtenay, Mr. Curteis, and Mr. Grove Price, the petition, which was from a pariah in Sussex, praying for a repeal of the malt duty, was brought up and reml. Mr. CURTEIS, in moving that the petition should be printed, said he could not have imagined that by the ex pression which he had used with reference to the necessity , of protecting the agricultural interest, he should have been euppostd to allude to any appeal to force, or to any means but petition and argument. What he meant was, that the state of the agricultural interest was such, that it must is attended to ; that if it depended oc the Members for Sus sex it should be attended to ; and that if the House did their duty it would be attended to. The petition was then ordered to be printed ; as scar another petition of a similar nature, presented by Mr. CIIZTEIS, from another parish in the same county. FORGERY. On the motion of Mr. LENNARD, an address was or• dered to be presented to his Majesty, praying for the num ber of persons charged with committing forgery, or utter ing forged notes, distinguishing the number convicted, and the numbers executed. KEEPER OF THE SIGNET IN SCOTLAND. Mr. LENNARD give notice for his lien. Friend, the Member for Ayr ► that on Monday, the 20th instant, he would move for a return of the emoluments of the K•eper of the Signet iu Scotland for the last ten years. TURNPIKE ROADS. Mr. LENNARD brought in a Bill to amend the laws respecting turnpike roads, which Ica read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on the 10th of February. PUBLIC ANNUITIES. On the motion of Mr. Alderman WAITIINIAN, an Account was ordered to be laid before the House of M Bey. received and Stock tranferred by the Commissioner , of the National Debt, under the Act of th• 10th of his late Majesty for the grant of Life and other terminable Annuities, distinguishing their respective ►mount, up to the latest period to which the same can be made out. Mr. Alderman WAITI L MAN moved for some Returns relating to the Amount of Cotton Twists and Printed Goods exported in 1826 and 1829. Mr. HUME presented a petition from the inhabitants of Horsham, complaining of distress. They stated that they had been compelled to pay higher wages to the labourers and that they should be unable to do so, unless they were reliesed from the present weight of taxes and tithes. The lion. Member presented a similar petition from Selsey, in which the petitioners added to their statement of distress a prayer for Parliamentary Reform, as its only remedy. He took that opportunity of saying that he was not fully sa tisfied with the explanation given of the words " shall, will, and must," because that explanation showed that the lion. Member meant to afford protection to the agricul tural interest at the expense of all the other interests of the country ; a mode of affording them protection which he must eai neatly deprecate. Mr. SAVILLE LUMLEY begged to say, with respect to the protection afforded to the agricultural interest, the present Corn Laws did not afford them that protection ; they were a complete fallacy. The graduated scale was good for nothing, except to benefit the factors and jobbers, who made it subservient to their interest. Colonel SHITHOIIPE said this was apetition for the repeal of all taxes, to which he cordially subscribed. Two Hort. Mesturns, whose names we could not learn, said they did not think the wages generally were as good as the Hon. Member for Sussex had supposed. Mr. CUItTEIS said that those who were regularly em ployed received from Is. 9d. to 2s. a day, in the parts of the county with which he was more immediately connected. Mr. SLANEY trusted that the Hon. Member for Sus sex would direct his ability to remove the abuses in the administration of the poor laws in that county, for, if he was not misinformed, every other person there, at some time or other in life, received assistance from the parish. He hoped they would return to the system in Northum berland, where wages were high and rates were low. After a few words from O'CONNOR DON, the pat ion was laid on the table. SLAVERY. Mr. MIME pretenttsi thirteen petitions for the abolition of negro slavery. ROYAL PALACES. Mr. lIITME moved for returns of the expenses of the apartment; in the Royal residences—of the names and oc cupation; of the parsons by whom they were filled—whe• then they were rated to the assessed taxes and county rate. —Ordered. COLONIAL REGISTRARS. Mr. HUME moved for a copy of the original patent by which Mr. J. A. Sullivan was appointed to the office of Secretary and Registrar and King's Receiver for the co lony of Demerara—a return of his age—the data of his sp pointment—the period during which he had exercised ar office as principal, and during which he discharged it duties by deputy..—the amount of the money he bed re ceived, with interest and compound interest on his re (Tip s, calculated at 5 per cent.—the amount of money paid to him as principal money in each year—the amount of the payments to his deputies up to the present period. Mr. COURTENAY wished to observe, that by an Act passed some years ago, such an appointment as the ono now referred to could nevit again be made. Mr. 11UNIE wished to know something► of the return and extent •f these appointments, for, if be was not mis• inf)rmed, the same person bad another office of a simil suit in Jamaica, with a salary of 1,5001, a year. Ile should move for the return to•morrow,_The first return was ordered. HOUSE AND WINDOW DUTIES. Mr. HUME wished to obtain some knowledge of the amount of the window taxes and of the house duties paid by each parish in London and Westminster, and by ten parishes within the bills of mortality, and to compare that amount with the ainount of the same true paid by the real of the country ; for he verily believed that Loadon and Westminster and the adjacent parts paid a greater amount of these duties, than all the rest put together. The Hon. Member then moved for returns calculated to afford the in formation he required. QUARANTINE LAWS. Mr. HUME presented ;petition from the Magistrates, &e. of Arbroath, complaining of the delay and expellee now occasioned by the Quarantine Laws, from the opera. Lien of which they had reteatly suffered. Mr. P. THOMPSON said, that the small sums paid by vessels under quarantine were required and applied for the support of the whole Quarantine Establishments. Mr. HUME observed, that the petitioners compl►ined of the amount of money required under these laws, and recommended inquiry into the subject of them. PUBLIC HEALTH. Mr. SLANEY gm notice, that on the fttla of Febru ary, he should move to bring in a Bill to keep some open space or spaces adjoining to all large towns, in order to secure the health of the inhabitants. Mr. SLANEY presented three petitions from Shrew• bury and its neighbourhood, praying fur the Abolition o Negro Slavery. Mr. WICSON PATTEN presented a petition from the Weaver. of Little Dolton, praying for relief to the Cotton Trade. Mr. SLANEY presented three petitions from places k Shrewsbury against Coloaial Slavery. Mr. :TALBOT, eight petitions from Glamorgatshire to the same effect. Sir J. SEBItIGHT, three petitions from various parts of Devonahire to the same effect. Lord NUGENT moved fors return of the affidavits •worn in the business of Cristotras and Excise during the last twelve months.—Agrred to. Sir M. W. RIDLEY presentcl a petition from those who constituted the Deputation of the Procession of Trades which lately went with an Address to the King, denying that they had used a tri-coloured lag, making warm profinisions of loyalty, and praying an inquiry into their conduct. Mr. FYLER bore testimony to the loyalty of the weavers of Spicalfieds. Mr. LUMLEY presented a petition from Mansfield rtg - sinst the Truck System, and a petition from an indi vidual named Benjamin Ellis against the Corn Laws. Mr. ROBINSON gave notice, that mit the 3d of Mardi ho should bring the state of Newfoundland under the con sideration of the House. The Buildings' Regulation Bill was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on tke 11th of Feb. Mr. WYSE gave notice, that on the 4th of March next, he should sukmit a motion to . the House upon the subject of the distresses of the labouring classes of Ireland. O'GORMAN MAHON presented a petition from Drumline, in the Barony of Bunralty, in the county of Clare, against the Sub.letting Act. Hs wished to State, that the rumour of his being opposed to the repeal of the Act was as false as another assertion which had lately been put forth respecting his conduct and opinions. There could be but ens honest opinion as to that Act, namely.... that it was most injurious to the people of Ireland. The petition was laid upset the table, and eke House adjourned at Ten o'clock. POLAND. (Flom the Morning Chronicle.) We have received from Warsaw, via Paris, the following letter from a Palish gentleman, who is more than a spectator of what is going on in that 't m e r Aac t e ll e a ltl n call severe iaeo b i t n r j u s t m h truth. d Undoubtedly , u id w iw ill' i aso I co c n a s Pu p tef i tuAd— r st a wl ► i c onf es—o pt"Thll ye:: f 4q. t )1 : 1 e t a l r ol d af o yP u a r ool o anw f yo ut h--o f g i a r s e : :te en :: w a h nt i l ch th h i a s ve ss j se ui r S tio h n ePP : u":: t sit he ar in ni a la :Cl ie% con o pired—our youth is ardent--and the Freesia Revell. cryi a e t o b u hf e r a r is t i i ib;6:;rraat liberty warmed s a ; v t ea w h mf alt oun e ng o d a which a s u p : i " t h e : a l e c among . sowed t i h d e pi° much at it hearts. l bsoa s c :iro t h et h gs: . ff tu al i s l I W sat sh b e market, g e en Is at 11 a hoo ss iout : y, tyranny which has caused that ; the Revolution and the o r f or r of tyranny which has inspired our minds with the love conspirators te as there are families ; each house contains rh i e s leoaaegmaaftaonveitareynbnbeditltei vso.oced;udrysuheswreleiiedoveowcprootpahnrrindesuesPrewf:rwholl:morii:heuthilislteedr77rtiirisampay 011 1 0 7::: :1 ° ~,, c w setp c u ohi r e r ushes us. Thus on the day of our* even re lw a t t l i hiiv : al4 r o o tam u u rnay g t .ani : sa l Y t Wit h a t i wp h e aetp e chh cl ehe h i e cacru o lnueh w i rrs c eo f the .ours our Revolution was, so to speak, completed; 1114 fighting —it was rather the execution of criminals--of. ,dt° agents of a foreign power, which public execration 11. 4. previously sentenced to death. In the twinkling of a* eye the army united itself to the youth, sad the wbele of the_ e present kingdom of Poland, from the Proust to 1111 Niemen, has already taken the oath of fidelity to the o i t o onal Government. I shall not enter into any fur glorious Revolution. Already since 141011 hundred coursers have carried the news to all the poiat,o of lag, coo ww a ae n rvd d e iry, not lwo y e ae e sr e seek of fo C r ina a it n sh y tearki t the globe. 1 will endeavour only to explsia 0010 1 1 Int which you will not be able to comprehend, o•ler 0 kr assistance ' --- of some person on the spot. " On the slay after the Revolution, the 0•1 111111.1/ 1 being still in the hands of the old lifinistlnh 4 wila° l4 lll4 , e h r o. s. that the should act in the name of the Entre" hello, that the grievances which the Poles might bare to otooPoi ft ..4 in consequence of the violation of the Cliarter. nil The Deputies collected at %maw immediately , sad alit a pacification of the Provisional Governments *0"„_'" following persons have been dismissed t--Prince Loll attached all his life to Russia, end formerly en Am/ • Suvaroff's army ; Count Grabowslci, s natural eoo of the towski); and Generals Koweeki and Bsutenstrauelts lo• tellites of the Grand Duke. Their places have been tilltd eohintg(hesinaolareitir,the susoAuf tagustibleillirauveoll.:4):-liiinig.;( with popular men. Thus the GOTefillatat, 01050 ii r placed by its first acts in a false position, 11011,0 senill caatobhnfe e il: l :.Fic u :i ding those who formerly a deputation to the Emperor, immediate!? panes dire was formed by t h e new member% look mui., 1 and meaning measures. All the male Poland between the ages of nineteen sad forty-014116T: empire, have been summoned to take •Pl r l a k s : L i t b fl usaiss verarnent, therefore, expects to be suppottou n n A ; - Nos Before this letter reaches you, the Grand ma'-' of ticen (Prussian Poland) will also have risen in imago is And if the Prussian army should succeed in l' itii/ Sa down, the whole of its population will emigrate totw.„. insurrection in Austrian Gallicia cannot fail teoole,11::: aid. We shall, therefore , . have a change, if not 0; 0 quishing, of Maintaining a war, till Europe 'hal a" or population of come to our assistance. We are in want of stro.l. so o ppressors have never allowed any manufactory of oTi s a he established among us . and our magssines 005,"..1.6. small q uantity ; but the enthusiasm and courage fint,.. will supply us with means. We shall fight with tas it 7 p. in front and with the scaffold in our rear. F•t's l E t a r r iere port will not fail us. Our cause i e t h e esul ti, of _, _ $ and of England. Poland re-established, she will -f0 0 • 0 , barrier with Turkey and Persia, which will prodr i o f Englawd her possessions in India, sad her inflow* 10 Mediterranean." • h 010 1 So far our correspondent. The wis es lie honest man throughout Europe must be for,:ii. Poles ; but wishes alone will not lave them. .1::, q uestion is, can they succeed by their own noir efforts ?--and if not, whether it is probable tniegt will receive that aid from other nations r they require t place, the population of Russia Proper is 05: than the official statements make . it, greaterublished in Lei c hate before us a small volume p. , Is himself E. P5,, 1 1 this year (1830), by one who cal Wh a t is the condition of Russia ? In the tit!, the result of thirty years' w ork), which states that Russia contains a .. ~..'" greater number of inhabitants than is generol_ol.l.7; ['eyed, at least one-fifth, and the ground.f jar statement is this :--" All the peasants and.ihttofflownd class of citizens must pay yearly II fou „ o wed observation (a 01: 0 1 some other duties to the Government ~01,..F., a according to the number of males. This A l l a / the door to frauds. The Isprawnik, the hes". ~, t h a number of his boors too low, for s good 11 :,,,, ta ee." ing with him is indispensable toy ie oWn 0"." 0 0 , If we may credit this author, discontent in . . e d. Circle, shuts his eyes, when a landholder glaitt'on. Speaking of the guards, he says-- Cabinetßoole " They never forget that all preceding ~,,r, too, tions have been effected by them. There at ,t: Oa sin itself is much greater than is generalli uPPw' in the Guards, a number of of fi cers descended 17000111 sprung from the old Russian Dynssty, and Dr Or this attached to the present new Holstein Di": 1 0 ; 0 01fi r r account both sides observe each oilier with 'nee t he p 13- lance. The ruling House Ober. o coasts:l4 n,,, 0 t he ciple of surrounding itself with foreign offiett,ol..°7o v/it: Military and Civil Services. Thus we Ili u'it'skerjortts Paulani, Liefen, Sievirs, and numberlets etntr" , It important civil and military situanoo* • e I , • I • it • ~i ft trat ' i l: FigreineditreieinitteiSaNckeiednh'srpdtie,boitrdheloPpaf,hl.ll7o'ttwie:T:'lls-Itgilltiiiteirs tinetly seen that Napoleon counted " From many papers that were intercePr. 0 ?pow aa a Russian party. But the Russian ?fold:Pt; tio , in the army and the whole people, Wes Il a,,t e i t i e tt freln _.,.. ti li a state of preparation for the results exp., 100 O W' The development of a more powerful arra Prussia e uuia army . w ith Th t e he ar for a succeeding period. I an d other " The great number of French prisoftelli s c i e cided to the O. , 0 0 as foreigners who remained behind in RussiasA ) ""i n isils, o ° B influence on the inclinations, the views lia ",, c o P le dialet3 o . merely of the people, but also a tbe 0000.,,,, „ ras sioo t ° But events produced a peeuliuly sttooll ',roes 0111 1 the most liberal proclamations inspired t,•..: The , th ostsb-• ,orso long stay in Germany and France cbsof• - to ► in °l long ter of the whole army. Offietrs sad I s 41 0 ' contact with all classes of the inbabitsollo. WO: cauntries, learned to see, hear, and oodi,.r.: b t he ir,d, the Russian soldier saw the Way in W PI 0 00° a ;bo sisna and French lived, and lode the el l s r l e bea° 'o r his own condition at home, what mot,. , a Wog, b , 1 impression on him ! Is was impossible that A te ' f eott r lot hinigybtres:llisegferersligol3r .°0011:_jilrii:::„Pliim: honour and freedom should not have hes ° ; t liell t ithe the example, as well as the wish to 12°11(dtecf!d-er in his own country. The three yew' , r l 7, pro.'llse Army of Occupation in France, under w- i , AO bi d, General Count Woroneow, predneed • Orr ce " n iset:d e rs, numerous scientific and political paints, ° _,,iiitsry _,„rod, this army found, the institution or ,". it t hht r ara r and many other circumstance. eonnecWd W is os ?kir re produced a particular spirit in this arlol. i soil r' ' L t oo, Alex ander was fully acquainted with {algid p 4 ot , t he ocip and with the spirit of these troops. lO 14 00 0 deem it prudent, on the return of this areal T oy 0 . in IBIS, to allow them to remain Wear bit rtl„ l° ,. & s. broke on the frontiers, and distribute° ~,,,;$ ofr - n . among other corps. This measure wee • ''' oe wits soo A . guide; for the views and spirit of thes., tP "; o 01 i• „ g ot turally communicated exteusively. Th• u the ri•eii c h wand, Count Woronsow, was received bl_.seeet•tur„, with great coldness, and instead of the edesTi e Oa , F ;., - 1 y , he expected, received only a new crag& ..itha beef,, isiii. wards named Commander of the Sd Core:44oe but lived on his estates, on the pretest ot "Bow. or He is now General -Governor of ri i _e if the foll/Ploell Manifeetos and l'roclamstions ethic ° e o p, 0 P re_ addressed to the Polish 0 1 ; 1 to iti re d t o , . as the Constitution which he grata oill, for , . DR° 01 duced the greatest sensation througnoos • o bit „,,,,,. cited in its inhabitants a wish to eschinge *D r b uett•l ) i e t a Constitutional Government` The EluPe...,„r% 0 Os t i ve tided the nation in this wish. In his ar:elool 111:Pt a at Warsaw, be *aid expressly , that he wo' 1 ' p a t * „,,o a similar Constitution to his other Statet a la thii r en ., contrast the subsequent treasures prese ws- t ieo Oil bu t mists. The increase of the police, the f0t.,113501004:4 to. tirely new secret police, not only in Sts r i d ' 0 00 w Z. 00 in the whole army ; the me unheard-of oevu'libiast ol"" ' wards both privates a officers on the OS were incYashi_auild:onifdikyinet ithoe,rgijilnu.o.7,l7.4