The Sun. — London, England, 1833-07-02 00:00:00

COURT CIRCULAR. , . The Dueness of KENT and the Princess VICTORIA, with heir suite; left the. Palace at Kensington yesterday morn ing for Portsmouth, where. _their Royal Highnesses were to embark on board the Emerald yacht for Norris C:stle in the Isle of Wight. Their Royal Highnesses the Princes ALEXANDER and F.aNEsy of Wirtemberg and his Serene Highness the Prince of Lsnrixazig also left the Palace at Kensington yesterday to visit the Duchess of KENT at Norris Castle; from whence , they will, in the course of the week, take their departure for the continent. The Duke and Duchess of CUMBERLAND entertained a select party at dinner on Sunday, at their residence at Kew. The Princes ALEXANDER and CHARLES of Selina, were present at the review yesterday, at Wormwood Scrubs. The Brazilian Minister was occupied for a c-nsiderahle time yesterday at the office of the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs. Viscount ALTHORr visited Earl GREY yesterday. M. VAN DE WryEa, the Belgian Minister, visited Vis count PALMERSTON yesterday, at the Foreign-office. The Commander of the Forces and Sir Its. GRAHAM bad interviews with Mr. Secretary STANLEY yesterday. COURT OF COMMON PLEAS, JULY . CARSON V. WILSHIRE. This ws an ac , ion brz•ught by a young man against his former - employer, a linen-draper, at Gosport, to reco ver damages for having given a false character to him. It appeared from the evidence for the plaintiff, that the plaintiff always conducted himself properly while in the service of the defendant ; that the plaintiff required greater wages, and therefore left his master, but they parted on good terms. The •nl;iintiff heard some time after of a situation at Mr. Mayhew's, a linen-draper, but on Mr. Mayhew referring to the defendant for his character, the defendant said he could not give the plaintiff one, as he had not conducted himself civilly to the customers. and had also behavedin a very ungentlemanly way to him. Mr. Mayhew consequently declined employing the plaintiff. On the part of the defendant, evidence was called to prove that orf more than one occasion the plaintiff had been in'oxicated ; e.nd he had once sad to his ma-ter, who had spoken to him resp.cting a custo mer " Curse the customer, and you too." It was also proved that his demeanour to the customers was very " off hand." Mr. Sergeant BOMPASS, for the plaintiff, remarked on the fact, that th"se points had not been detailed by the defendant to Mr. Mayhew. The CHIEF Jos-nut told the jury to consider whether the defendant had probable ground for refusing to rive a character to the plaintiff, and to teturn a verdict accord ingly. The fury found for the plaintiff — Dam a g es, one farthing. The CHIEF JUSTICE certified, and said that the case was one which should not have been brought into Court. COURT OF EXCHEQUER, JULY 1. A PORTRAIT.-MIC: T r .: V. MINAS!. Mr. Huciettr, tor the plaintiff, stated the case. 1.., plaintiff, a lithographic printer, had been employed by toe defendant, who is an artist, to prepare a stone and strike off 100 impressions • of a portrait of Sir James Searlett, the eminent advocate, which the defendant transferred to the stone. For this and for sundry lithographed impression. , of Signor Paganini, as "II Violino Magico," the plaintiff sought to recover the sum of 51. 9+, 6d. The prints did not sell, and the artist alleged that the impressions were bad, while the lithographer contended that the portrait (which purported to represent Sir J. Scarlett in his robes, but without his wig, seated in a chair in his study) was a failure. The prints exhibited caused much merrimmt. The kereli of Sir James Scarlett had been taken in court, and the artist laboured under the disadvantage of having to follqw him from court to court, in order to catch him seated. Mr. John Williams thought the portrait to resemble Lord Byron. Ano , her learned Counsel whispered the name of 'lie Rev. Robert Taylor, and Lord Lynd hurst said be should have taken the likeness for that of Hi tkentuff,.. Mr. Batt., fur the defence, contended that the Printing bAtily done. He, however, admitted that numerous impressions tad been sent out to America, and there sold Ins fac-similelikenews of Sir James.—(Laughter.) Witnesses were called on both sides. The Jury found a verdict for the plaintiff. MIDDLESEX SESSIONS, JULY 1. - - The CHAIRMAN addressed the Petit Jurors upon the present stite of the late as regarded the property of con victed felons, and observed strongly upon the injustice of giving up to the Sheriff the property which ought to he applied to the defraying of the expenses of prosecutions , and if any part of it remained it should be handed over to the relations of the felon. H' mentioned one case where the injustice of the law was sufficiently manifest. The bus haw' woman who supported herself and family by stole 3 s in el , “t or a very triflinc, , value. for whi. :fence he was tried, convicted, and sentenced to one week's imprisonment. The verdict of the Jury hav ing dechred him a felon, his property became forfeited, and the Sheriff seized the mangle, thus depriving the poor woman of the means of gaining a livelihood. Several Jurors here expressed their astonishment that the law could tolerate sucl: oppressive conduct. The CuAiamaN declared such was the fact, and so con vinced was he of the utter badness of this law that he bad given notice in his place in Parliament of his intention to move for its repeal. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. ALA RYLEB ONE. T 11E Mairsexaoate Pauresa.—..Cysan Street, and Elizabeth Street, the former upwards of sixty, end the latter thirty-five, years of age, were yesterday brought before Mr. RAWLINSON under the following circum stances : As police constab'e, D 120, was on duty about eleven o'clock on Sunday night he saw the two prisoners near Deyonshire.street, Portland.place, apparent'y in a most destitute condition, and cn questioning them he was informed that neither of them had any home, ner had they slept in a le , d during the last six weeks. They were then taken to the station-house. In reply to the M igistrate, the poor women said they were some time ago inmates of Marylebone poorhouse, and one day 1-ft their abode without permission of the overseers, in the hope of being able by their exertions to procure a livelihood. Failing in their object, they were comrelled to seek once more their former asylum, but were refused admittance: They assured the Magistrate that they were in great distress, and said they hoped they should not be suffered to starve. Mr. Rawt.PesOr: said that, admitting that they had left the Inatise ikhout the sanction of the overseers, ad vantage shotild not be taken of that circumstanc., and directed an offieer to proceed with the poor creatures to the parish authorities immediately. On the policeman'e return he informed the Magistrate that Mr. King, the inspector of the workhouse, hail un dertaken to receive them. MILITARY EVOLUTIONS EXTRAORDINARY. —A gentle man named Edward Riley, attired en miiitaire, who was stated to he a Captain in the army, reeinin: in the New •road, St. Pancras, was brought before the Magistrates charged with having amused himself in the following strange manner : Police constable S 122, as he was on duty about nine o'clock on Sendai, - eigl.t in Euston•:e,uate, the de fendant surrounih . d by a mob of about 200 person. Ile was very much intoxicated, and insulted several respec table females by pulling off their shawls and bonnets. About a quarter of an hour previously he was perform ing similar antics, when ! e (witness) dispersed the mob. and prevailed on the Captain to desist. After the second edition of hie gratuitous exhibition, witness took him into custody. A Mr. Griffiths, of Prospect-terrace, Camden-town, as be was passing along Euston.square, witnessed the conduct complained of by the p ‘liceman, in addition to which, 'li Captain seized him (w itness) by the throat with bands and would probably have strangled him if a young man bad not opportunely come to his assistance. Captain Riley denied the latter statement, and said that, ht the titne named, he was listening to an itinerant expounder of divine truth who is as holtliwe forth in the road, when Griffiths said. " You're a —sn'dier ;" upon which :e.• (the Captain) collared hint tstanter. n ews as serted that the " malt" spoken of the policem part of the preacher's congregation. Mr. RawraNSoet very properly and severe!) , animad verted on the Captain's misconduct, as sworn t by the two w itnesses, and ordered him to pay a fine o'' r)s. for brine drunk, and enter into his own recogniz trice for his future good conduct. Q UEEN SQUARE. THE ATTEMPTED MURDER. AND SUICIDE AT HAM MERSMITI3.—Y,sh•rday Mr. M Mantis, the Inspector of the T of the police at Kensington, attended he f;re Mr. Se coats, e • Sitting Magistrate, and in formed him that Charles Reynolds, the young man who had been apprehended by their division on a charge of wilfully and shooting at and wound ng with a loaded pistol Sarah l'ariy, at ii:mwqrgoith, tea upable i t, ' l / 4 to he brought before him, on ae'ount v; of as he had given himself. Both Reynolds and Strai t 'w ere still in St. George's Hospital. The wound which Rey nolds gave himself, by firing another loaded pistol at litt head after he had fired at Parry, appears to have taken a slanting direction ; his left eye is shot out, and lie has re ceived several severe bruises about the head from jumping out of (I , e of the up stairs windows when be found that he bad i,t neither instance completed the dreadful deed; his head, in 110, is completely covered with wounds, hut none of them are considered mortal by the medical men who attend upon him. Yesterday he was rather worse, and unable to speak ; the unhappy female appeared to be much more composed, and conversed very rationally. The Inspector had been to St. George's Hospital that morning, and the surgeon in attendance bad given him a certificate of the state of both parties. The certificate was handed to the Bench, from which it appeared that neither of them were in any immediate danger, hut it would be some days before they could be removed with safety from the hospital. Directions were then given to brine the parties up, when the surgeon of the hospital thought that they could be removed. HATT ON- GARDEN. ;14IPUDENT ROBBERY. —Yesterday George Richards , alias George Hutchinson, a middle-aged man of respect able appearance, was brought before Mr. LAING, in ti e custody \ of. Joseph Parrot, 78 E, charged by Mr. Simon Giles, of the firm of Giles and Goilby, clothes salesmen, of 37, Brook-street, Holborn, with having stolen a new suit of wearing apparel, under the following circum- stances : The prosecutor stated that the prisoner was frequently in the habit of calling at his shop and purchasing articles of wearing apparel, for which he paid ready money; and he was not suspected of dishonesty, until witness missed several articles from the various show rooms, to which he was admitted, after hi‘ luitted the place. The first purchase he made was a wide great coat, and in a few days subsequently he brought some articles to the shop, marked with the name of the arm, to dispose of, which excited some suspicion. Yesterday afternoon, about two o'clock, he again entered the shop, when the servants were busy with other customers, and said he wanted to suit himself with some clothes," and he was told to walk to the " show room" up stairs. He proceeded the e, and witness went into an adjoining room, where he cool' privately watch his manoeuvres, and he saw him take off his great coat, and put on a new body coat, and instantly slip on his great coat over it. Witness, being aware that a " -Yeot!orim" would rot so e:isily "suit" himself without a more minute inspection of the garment, felt satisfied that he was the thief who had so often plundered him, and he suffered him to leave the premises without interruption ; and when he had gone a few yards from the house lie gave him into the custody of the policeman, who brought him back and searched him, on which he found a new blue coat under the great one, a fashionably made waistcoat in his hat, and a pair of trousers in the greatcoat pocket, the whole of which bore the private mark of the firm, and were identified by witness as his property. Mr. LAING (to the Pri.oner)—What are you ? Pri soner, who appeared to affect to be deaf and dumb, made no answer, but st,red vacantly at Mr. Laing, and otl er persons in the office. Mr LAING (louder) —What are you, I say?—No answer. Mr. LAING said that he was certain the fellow bad been before at the office on some charge ; and on repeating his interrogatory with increased vehemence, and receiving only the stupid gaze of the prisoner, said he was no doubt deaf and dumb to suit his convenience; and, taking him off his guard, Mr. 'Avec avair. said. " What are you ?" adding emphatically, " Are you a thief?" Prisoner—No, no ; I am a prisoner. Mr. LAlNG—Where do you live? Prisoner—l decline au-wering that question. Mr. I-attic—Where do you live? Prisoner—Why, here. Mr. LAING—How often have you been charged here? —No answer. Mr. LAING--HOW often have you been in the House of Correction ?—No answer. Mr. LAING—How often have you been convicted ? Prisoner—l don't understand you. Mr. LAING—NO ; you are very dull. He ordered Lloyd, the officer, to bawl in his ear. L'ecd, in a tone sufficient to " split the ears of the groundhogs." did so, and asked how often he bad been convicted, and sent to prison? Prisoner—Why never, to to be sure. Waddington said he had seen the prisoner before at that office or the House of Correction. Mr. LAING said he bad no doubt but he bad been there before, and that was his reason for refusing to answer his questions. Prisoner—You labour under a mistake there ; the respectability of my (hesitatingly) friends and charac ter was my only reason. He was folly committed to Neweate for trial, and Mr. LAING ordered the officer to take him to the House of Correction and New Prison, to ascertain from the Gover nor the respectability of his character, and what offences, it any, he had been convicted of. UNION :L LL. Yesterday two men, named Marren and Yates, were brought before Mr. MURRAY, charged on suspicion of drowning a young woman (name unknown), whose body was taken out of the water at Bankside. A police sergeant of the M division on proceeding over Blackfriars Bridge on Sunday morning, about four o'clock, saw some pet sons looking through the balustrades, and heard Vent exclaim, " That a woman was in the water." He looked in the direction of Southwark Bridge, and, perceiving a splashing in the water at some distance off, lie ran round to Bankside, and by the time he arrived saw the body of a young female just brought on shore by a waterman. He also observed t.vo men standing upou a barge moored at some distance out in the river, and he had been informed that those men were with the female at the time she was drowned. Acting upon this infor mation lie procured a wherry, and irnmedi itely went on board the barge, and took them both into custody. The accused were examined separately, and Yates made the following statement voltintarily :—He said that he and the other prisoner were brassfoundere, [1 , 31 4 worked at a large factory in Sr. Martin's-lane. On Saturday night, after work, :hey went to the Cart and Horses, in Upper St. Martin's lane, which they left at half-past eleven o'clock, and then went home together, but did not retire to rest. At ball-past three o'clock in the morning they left home together with the determination of taking an excursion on the water. On their way to West minster Bridge they met a young female near the Horse Guards, and they spoke to her, and told her that they were going to have a pull down the river. She ex pressed a desire to accompany them ; they endeavoured to dissuade her; but when they hired the boat, which was at Mr. Lyons's, near the bridge, she said she was deter mined to go with them, and accordingly jumped into the boat along with them. They then proceeded down the river, the tide running that way, and in the course of their progress run again'st a chain or warp to which a barge was made fast. litis was about midway between the two brides, and in the attempt to extricate it the wherry heeled over and the female rolled into the river. One of them (Yates) got bold of the barge and saved him self, and rescued Monett, who was on the point of being drowned, and would inevitably have shared the fate of the female bad not Yates grasped him by the collar and pull e d him on board the barge. In reply to the Magistrate the accused said that he never saw the deceased before ; that she appeared to be 18 years of age, and that they were unacquainted with who or what she was. She was dressed in a dirk half-mourning dress, and wore u straw bonnet with ribarels. The other prisoner gave a similar aeceunt of ti teattea.aieu, aru wait: :o I .;e detained in custody, ns there were some mysterious cir cumstances attending the case. - - ----- THE CHURCH.—lturnour states that Mr. FIELDS, of Ashburton, and Mr. RorEa, of Ttignmouth, two Dissenting Ministers of the Independent persuasion, intend conforming to the Church.--Exeter Flying Fast. HALIFAX MARKET.—We cannot note any alteration in the state of this market, last Saturday, from that of the preceding week.—Halifax Express. At the Rochdale Flannel Market, on Monday East, a good deal of busintss was done, and better prices were obtained.—Leeds Intelligencer. HUDDERSFIELD MARKET. —Last Tues day three was much iliqrtand for padding, arid low woollen goads of every description, for the erican trade. The transactions in them, however, were not so extensive as they would otherwise have been, had the sup. ply been greater.—Halifax Expresi. BRADFORD MARKET.—The demand con tinued brisk, at this Market, last Thutsday, for all kinds of stuff goods. Ia prices, however, tnere was no varia tion, thi ugh, we undetstand, there were s everal Attemp s t r. ,de to rais, them, hut th e y invariably proved unsuc cessful.—Halifax Express. STATE OF TRADE.—Our merchants still continue bo.y, and there is a fair demand for goods; but as the advance of wools obliges the to to la quire an unproved price , which is not freely givt n by the merchants, die a mount of sales is necessarily mere limited than under other e ircuinstatices might yrobably be the case. The in ariufitetuters still complain of small profi*.—Leeds In telligencer. SECON EDITION. SUN-OFFICE, Seven o'clock. 11M PERM LPAR LEAMENT THIS EVENING. HOUSE OF LORDS• -- Lori SUFFIELD presented a p?tition, most numerously signed, from Kingston-upon-Hull, praying their Lordships to interfere with Russia on the subject of Poland. It was not his intention to declaim upon the barbarities committed upon the Poles, being aware ofthe importance of the mea sure now under consideration of Government in the other House of Parliament. which would soon also come before their Lordships. But he was sure that the s ubject would not escape their attention, and that they would take those measures most conducive to the object they must all have at heart. The House then adjourned. -- __ TilE LONDON GAZETTE THIS EVENING. LORD CHAMBERLAIN'S OFFICE, JUNE 29, 1833 . The King has been pleased to appoint Henry Brow n, Esq., Surgeon and Apothecary in Ordinary to his Majesty's House hold at Windsor. WHITEHALL, June 12. The Lord Chancellor has appointed Richard Randall. of the town of Southampton, Gent. to be a Master Extraordinary in the High Conrt of Chancery. Commission by the Lord Lieutenant of the East Riding of the County of York, and the Town and County of the Town of Kingston-upon-Hull. R. P Strangwayes, Esq., to be Deputy Lieutenant, June 24. Commission by the Lord Lieuteaant of t he County Palatine of Chester. The King's Regiment of Cheshire Yeomanry Cavalry. T. Marshall, Gent., tobe Lieutenant, vice Chantler, resigned, June 21, 1833. DECLARATIONS OF INSOLVENCY. THOMAS SAVI LE FLUDE, Mincing-lane, wine-boker. JOHN RUSSELL CASE. Hunter-street. Brunswick-square. BANKRUPTCY ENLARGED. JOHN K ABERItY, leather-cutter, Leeds, York, from 9th of July, to Tuesday, the 6th day of August, at eleven, at the Court-house, Leeds. BANK RUPTS. JOSEPH STR ANGM A N, Jun., flour-factor, Queen-street, C•eapside, 19th July, at ten, and 13th August at twelve; Young and Vailings, Mildred's-court, Poultry ; Clark, official assignee, St. Swithir's-lane. Lombard-street. TOMASO ROVi7DINO, music-seller, Manchester-street, ..11 , iy 12, at tei., Atigust 13, ei,vcll, the Court of Bankruptcy. Walthew, Norfolk-street, Starnd ; Lackington, Basinghall-strett, Official Assignee. H. HOLT, bookseller, Somerset-street, Portman square, July 5, at two, and August 13, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Belcher, King's Arms-yard, official assignee; Messrs. Dover and Lawrence, South- , quare, Gray's-Inn. JOHN ROBERTS, linen.draper, Llandilo, Carmarthenshire, July 9, and August 13, at eleven, at the Commercial Rooms, Bristol. Clarke and Sons, Bristol ; Jenkins and Abbott, London. JAMES MOORE, glass-merchant, Manchester, July 19, and August 13, at one, at the Palace Inn, Manchester. Holden, Liverpool ; Walmsley, Keightley, and Parkin, London. THOMAS CHRIS I'M AS, flour-dealer, New-street, Lisson- Grove, July 10, at twelve, and August 13, at ten, at the Court of Ectnkruptey. Young, Mark-lane. ' JOSEPH ALEXANDER TAYLOR, boarding-house-keeper, George-street, Hanover-square, July 10, at two, and Aug. 13, at ten, at the Court of Commissioners. Baxendale, Tatham, Upton, and Johnston, King's Arms-yard, London; Cannan, Lothbury, official assignee. WILLIAM DELA M AIN, wine.merchant, Wells-street, Marylebone, July 10, at three, and Aug. 13, at twelve, at the Cohrt of Bankruptcy. Druce and Sons, Billiter-square; 'Fur quand, C o th a ll-buildings, official assigno. SAMUEL PEEL, plaid-manufacturer, Leeds, July 9, and Aug. 13, at ten, at the Court-house, Leeds. Battye, Fisher, and Sudlow, Chancery-lane, London; Hargreaves, Leeds. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, Juzr 1. O'CONNOR DON presented a petition from the in• habitants of Kiltrusten in the county of Roscommon complaining of the improper conduct of a Protestant clergyman in his proceedings in the assessment of tithes in that parish. The Hon. Member said as this was a petition complaining of the conduct of a clergyman he had thought it right to give notice of his intention to present it. He wished that the allegations contained in it were untrue, but he was afraid that they could be but too well a uthenticated. The petition stated, that on the 7th April, 1826, there was a meeting of the parishioners to enter into a composition under the Tithe Composition Act; that the clergyman in question, acting on his own behalf, as well as on the behalf o the Rev. Dr. Brindley, propcsed that they should pay him 2001. a year; this was objected to, and ultimately the sum of 185/. was agreed to be paid and received ; the number of acres in the parish was to be taken from the county book, as it contained a less number of acres than were actually in the parish ; the county hook stated them at 3 007 acres, and the clergyman wrote down the rate at Is. Bd. the acre, but inuatcli to say it ion.. sAsoording to the county book; he had therefore charged the Is. 3d. instead of upon only 3,007 acres, according to the county book, upon the actual number, namely, 5,083 acres, thereby increasing his 1851., which lie egreed to receive, to 312/., which w.s actually 1121. more than be had at ties, demanded. The pieta censor of that eietgyment had only 100/. a year. Several Magistrates were willing to prove those facts, but the parishioners could get no redress from any authority to which they appealed. They had appealed to the Privy Council of Ire land, but in consequence of the documents having been regularly signed by a Commissioner, on behalf of the clergyman, and by one on behalf of the parishioners (which last was signed without inquity, because the gentleman who signed it was told it was a mere mater of form), they were refused redress. Indeed, he (O'Connor Don) had understood from the Right Hon. the Secretary for Ireland that the law afforded no redress, and therefore the petitioners were obliged to come to this House and to appeal to their justice whether the law was sufficient to uphold the rights of the clergy, and only impotent when the rights of the people were c o ncerned.—(Hear.) He feared that unless this petition was attended to, the people in that part of the country, Roscommon, would be so much excited, that means of coercion would he found necessary to keep them from disturbance. The Hon. Member read a letter he had received on the sub ject from a Mr. Patrick Tait, in which the writer said the tranquillity of that part of Ireland could not be for a mo ment insured if it were attempted to enforce the payment of the tithes according to the new survey of the clergy man ; and he knew not how the Magistrates in that dis trict could act, if called upon in any way to enforce pay ment upon an agreement against the justice of which they had already borne evidence. He (O'Connor Dan) called upon the Government to distribute equal justice, and, whilst compelling the people to pay what the law would enforce, to at the same time rescue them from such claims as those of which they so justly complained. Mr. HUME presented a petition from a person of the name of Gunn n, North-street, Alarylebone, complaining that on the 15th October, 1832, he posted a letter, con taining 25/., directed to an individual residing in Leicester, and which had never been delivered ; and although he had made application to the Duke of Richmond on the subject, no explanation or redress had been given. Tne petition set forth the great hardships which arose from the present Post-office regulations ; and which, while they prevented, by imposing penalties, the sending of money in parcels by carriers or other messengers, did not afford, by any weans, adequate protection against its irregular delivery and loss. The lion. Member stated his opinion that no deportment of State required more revision and mere regulation than the Post-office ; sonic alteration was ' 'wanly c riled for in order to facilitate the commercial and general communication of the country. If parties were obli ed to send their parcels of money by pose, Government shouter, at ati events, be ieepotesibie for their Safe iieiieeiy. The Hon. Member also complained, that by a recent alteration the conveyance of letters, &c., from England to the United States would be very much impeded; and expressed his hope that the Noble Lord the Chancellor of the Exclie qu-r would, ere lone, see it to be his duty, a s he hid two years ago stated to he h is intention, to being in a Bill which would place the whole question of the Post-office regulations before the House. The Hon. Member then presented a petition from the United Associate P res bytery of Aberdeen, in favour of the Ministerial pl en of Educa tion in Ireland. Also a petition from the working classes of Edinburgh, praying the House to satisfy the just complaints of the people of Ireland. The Hon. Member also presented a petition from the persons assem bling for public worship at St. J ohn'e.square, Lon don, calling themselves Free Thinking . Christians, com plaining Kirk, against the of the <ten mony of marriage,. according to the being imposed upon 1 also a petition s tfi y h i el t mn et s n ; oa o fl f stol la e y a Ep ia ttia t t r ti O ol onsahgeferdomiCni'll Scotland from London, praying for the repeal of the house and window tax ; also a petition from the Procurators of the ;sh e riff,' Court of Fife, cotnplainirg of th e Scotch system of conveyanc in g ; alto a petition from the gra duates and students of the university of Glasgow, fro the King's n e g ated a f . o e r .ha el n e e tt the repeal of the Apothecaries Act ; also a petition f i lzin ichi th p e ris p i i n i:on p e r r a s yi the law of debtor and creditor ; end als? a ;:etition tr om the parish of St. Luke's, Chesea, complaining of the expense of passing Irish poor. He understood the lion. Member fur Berks had a Bill on this storject to bring forward, but be was satiefied that it w ould not ucceed in affording relief, unless the• parishes i n Ireland to whici: the poor belonged .r were assessed for the payment of the expense of passing the poor to it. Supposing poor laws were not adopted in Ireland, this would be a proper intermediate step.—(Hear.) The Hon. Member also presented several petitions from Birmingham, from St. Andrews, and-other places, prayieg that the laws relative to beer shops might be so altered as that they might be placed on the same footing, in regard to the hours for serving beer, as public houses. He also presented a petition from Julius Adolphus Scroter, residing at Isleworth, complaining of the laws relating to patents. Sir S. WHALLEY called the attention of the House to the subject of the Irish poor, and hoped that some measure would be adopted to lessen the burdens which they at present caused in this country. He also called the attention of his Majesty's Government to one or two I subjects connected with the Post-office; one was the great loss which was sustained by poor p ersons in remitting money through the medium of the Post-office.—(Hear, hear, bear.) He thought it ad visable that every facility should be afforded to poor persons in sending money by that mode. The other topic was one that he viewed with much astonishment, and it was a practice that every Member in the House should endeavour to suppress. It was, the practice at the Post-office to open parcels which were sent from solicitors in thecountry to their agents in town, in order to see if there was a letter in them. Mercantile parcels were allowed to con tain a letter, but of all parcels he thought those sent by solicitors, containing title deeds and such things as those, should be allowed to have a letter accompanying and describing them. He felt confident that the Noble Duke at the head of that department would not sanction the opening of such parcels at the Post-office, it he was aware of the practice. For his own part, he could not und,rstand how any person dared to pursue such recourse, ant! not be deemed guilty of felony. He hoped, and shoot] he happy to heat, that that system was not sanctioned by his Majesty's Government. Mr. FINN thought that an absentee tax in Ireland would be the best cure for the emigration of the Irish poor to this country. At present a great many offices in the Church, and other departments in Ireland, were filled by English.. men, which could as well be filled by Irishmen. He thonght there was but one cure for all the evils of Ireland, and that was to give that country a dome:4de legislature. Mr. WILKS aas of opinion that the Bill now in the House, instead of remedying, would augment the evils respecting the passing of casual Irish poor in this country. He hoped that some really beneficial measure would be introduced in the course of the next session that would remove the evils complained of. Mr. LANGDALE moved that the writ for Warwick shire he susoelole.i (in the 11th of July. Mr. O'CONNELL moved for a return of the account of stamp duties on newspapers in Leland, from the Ist of January, 1833, to the Ist of June, 1833. Lord ALTHORP moved the order of the day for the House resolving itself into a Committee on the Bank Charter Act. Mr. FINN moved that a return be laid before the House of the compensation granted for the sale of boroughs since the union between England and Ireland. THE SPY SYSTEM. Mr. COBBETT was exceedingly anxious, before the House resolved itself into a Committee on the subject of the Bank Charter Act, to have the Noble Lord's (Al thorp) consent to the appointment of a Select Com mittee on the subject of which be had given notice relative to the matter of a petition which had been presented from the members of the political union at Walworth and Camberwell, complaining that policemen had been gent about as spies, and that they were taxed for the purpose of maintaining those spies. He did not wish to have the nomination of the Com mittee, but it was a matter of the greatest public importance, and in which the public were materially con ceined. His Hon. Friend (the Member for Lambeth) bad a petition to present on the subject ; and it was ex ti emely important that as little delay should take place with respect to the consideration of it as possible. Lord ALTHORP said he had no desire to prevent the Hon. Member trom bringing the subject forward ; on the cor.t.rari, he was desirous that the earliest opportunity should be given for the Hon. Member to mention it. When the police force was first established in the metro pile, particular instructions were given by the Right Hon. Baronet, who proposed their employment, that they should not he employed in the capacityof spies, properly so speaking, and when his Right Hon. Friend came into office, the same instructions were expressly given. The gentlemen at the head of the police force were equally anxious that the men under their command should not be so employed. He did not consider that the sending of men to public meetings— to such meetings as were open to all persons—could be construed into employing them as spies, in the acceptation of the term as used by the Hon. Member, even though they attended those meetings in plain clothes. Knowing the inflammatory language that was used at some of those meetinea, the Government would not have performed its duty if it had not sent persons there to take notice of what was going on.—(Hear.) If this man, however, had used violent language, and had endeavoured to excite the people, he had committed the most odious office of a spy— ( Heir)—and must not only have exceeded his duty, but have disobeyed his orders.—(Hear.) But this the man most positively denies.—(Hear.) With regard to the ap pointment of a Committee to inquire into the circum stances of the case, he (Lord Abhor's) could have no objections, provided it were a fairly selected Corn inittee.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") He had thought it necessary to give an explanation to the House of the conduct of the Government in the matter, to show that it could not be charged with encouraging a spy system ; and could further assure the House, that the police had never been employed to interfere with private society.—(Hear.) Mr. O'CONNELL said the best answer that could be given for the Government was the ready manner in which the Noble Lord had met the request for a Committee, which should he fairly chosen without any partisanship. Mr. COBBETT would again assume the Noble Lord that every allegation contained in the petition could be proved to be correct. Mr. TENNYSON expressed his satisfaction at the consent of the Noble Lord tote appointment of a Com mittee. The Noble Lord would remember, howevee, that the petitioners did not complain of the policeman attending public meetings, but of his having been a subscribing member to the political union, and of having used vio lent language, and having even corrected the resolutions at their meetings, besides offering to teach the accord exercise, and using various other means of exciting the people. Lord ALTHORP said the policeman had denied some of the most important allegations which were made against him. He denied ever having made use of violent or inflammatory language ; and although he had on one occasion thrown some pence into a bat for a contribution, he denied being enrolled as a member of the political anion. Mr. HAWES expressed the gratification he telt at what hart fallen from the Noble Lord. At the same time, of his own knowledge be (Mr. H.) could say there had been a system, though it might not be sanctioned by Government. of sending persons to those meetings, and allowing them to make use of most improper and violent language. From personal inquiries which he had made, he knew there were parties who were prepared to come forward to substan tiate the allegations contained in the petition. Mr. EWING, in a very low tone of voice, which was quite inaudible in the gallery, urged on the Lord Advo cate the necessity of postponing for the present session his Bill relative, as was understood, to the Royal Burghs of Scotland, as great dissatisfaction had been occasioned by several of its provisions. The LORD ADVOCATE was aware that the Bill, in its details, had met with some opposition, but it had not norasiored tl,at perturb .ti-n and air:in which t% c Hon. Member for Glasgow had expressed. At the same time be was not anxious to bring the Bill through during the present session. DECCAN PRIZE MONEY. Colonel EVANS asked a question of the Noble Lord (Althorp) relative to the distribution of the Deccan Prize Money, in answer to which Lord ALTHORP said the prize could not be distri buted until the decision of the Privy Council was pro nouncei. Mr. C. K TYNTE presented a petition from a place i n Somerset, praying for an issue of 11. notes. BANK CHARTER. The House having resolved itself into Committee on the Bank Charter, Lord ALTHORP said, that in moving the second re solution he begged to state to the Committee an altera tion he proposed to make in his plan—an alteration which he did not think of much importance, but which be was most willing to make, to meet the apprehensions o f those who apprehended that from payment in gold being only obtainable in London for notes of " 51. and u pwards," might cause a scarcity of coin in the country. He p r oposed therefore to alter the reading of this resolution, excluding payment in the country for all sums " above fi ve pounds; " so that a five-pound not., being presented for payment in the country would entitle t h e party presenting it to five sovereigns. (Hear, bear.) It was not such sums that occasioned a run, ~f which they need be apprehensive. With a view to prevent if possible, discussion of the sixth and eighth re. 01010115 viz., those renting to joint-stock banks, to ui,ht, his wish was to dispose of the other resolutions, if I:ossible, before the Houle resumed, “e upon them he should he able to brinv in 4 BM for . the renewal of the Bank Charter, which - he had prepared. Sir ROBERT PEEL—If I rightly understand the Noble Lord he means that for every 51. note, a man pre senting it shall receive five sovereigns. Of course, then, if he takes one hundred 5/. notes be will receive gold for them all. Lord ALTHORP—No, no. Sir R. PEEL—If he takes them sep ►rately, then ? Lord ALTIIORP—Why no, not in the same day, for that would occasion a ,erious run upon the Bank. If the effect of the alteration will be to destroy the effect of the resolution, I shall not persevere in it. Sir ROBERT PEEL—I am sorry if I have shaken the Noble Lord's confidence in his own pro position, which I most certainly cannot think he has well considered. Nothing could be so absurd as that a man presenting a 5/. note should be able to get five sovereigns, but upon presenting two Si. notes should not be able to g• t ten sovereigns.—(Hear, hear, and laughter.) Mr. W ARBURTON suggested, with a view to prevent the issue of notes for 51. 10s., they should be confined to multiples of M. Mr. E. DENISON expressed his anxiety to have the Noble Lord's doubts upon the point cleared up. Sir R PEEL was ccnfident that no such consequences were to be apprehended as the Hon. Member had just adverted to. Mr. ROBINSON said, with respect to the two last resolutions, the Noble Lord's (Lord Althorp) object was to avoid any discussion upon them, until those more immediately affecting the renewal a the Charter were cnmp!eted; of opinion upon those two resolutions than on all the others together, he would suggest their withdrawal alto• gether, in order that the others might he the readier pro ceeded with. At present those two resolutions would greatly embarrass the question of the renewal of the Charter, and it might therefore be difficult to get through them this session. He could not see what necessity there was, in discussing the renewal of the Charter, to consider all the circumstances respecting joint-stock banks. The latter be would submit bad better be left for discussion early in the next session. Mr. P. THOMSON thought that all this discussion arose from the misunderstanding of the object in view by making banknotes a legal tender. If those Members I would refer to the evidence before the House, they would see that, in 1825, there was danger of running the bank dry for gold, so continual was the demand for it. In most of the districts the amount of notes issued by the country hankers bore but a small proportion to the amount of their deposit@ and cogagetaet.t.s, for which they were ob;: g ea provide in times of pressure by applying to the Bank of England for bullion. It was to guard against such a danger that it was thought advisable to snake notes a legal tender, and not in reference to the amount of notes of country bankers, which bore so small a proportion to their other engigements. The fact was, that in a mo ment of a commercial panic the country bankers came up to London, and, as was the case in the year 1825, they asked, not simply for sovereigns to pay their notes, which never could wholly be returned to them—for he believed during that panic the amount of notes returned bore but a small proportion to the amount of paper issued—but they also asked for gold to meet all their other eneagements.—(Hear, hear.) Many coun try hankers having a circulation of only 15,000/. or 20,000/. in notes, required as much as 100,000 sovereigns to enable them to meet those engagements. Thus the Bank of England was constantly in this situation, namely—it must be prepared in a period of panic to deal out gold, not only to meet the demand occasioned by the returning of country notes, but also to meet all the antici deposits : that made it a dvisable that Bank of England nations of a demand to the amount of their notes should be declared a legal tender; and therefore all the alarm that was apprehended was utterly unfounded. Sir JOHN WROTTESLEY would not now discuss that important point whether Bank of England notes should be made a legal tender, although he would not deny that it was called for by the country.—(Hear.) He thought it would tend, in the opinion of the public, very much to depreciate the standard value, if it was known that those notes could not be paid in the way in which they had hitherto continued to be paid_(Hear, hear)—but he could not agree with his Hon. Friend thor, the present measure would be of any advantage whatever to the country bankers.— ( Hear, hear, bear.) The country bankers could not pretend to give the interest that was called for, and at the same time engage to have sufficient money in their coffers to pay them at a short notice.—(Hear.) He was sure that no prudent country banker would ever take deposits without an enagement that they should not he removed except after a certain notice. Sir G. PHILLIPS made some obatyvations in reply to the remarks of Mr. P. Thomson, the beginning of which were not heard in the gallery. Sea ued.rstond him to say that the Right Hon. Gentleman had forgotten that when the run on the B ink of England was made in 1826, the one pound country bank notes were in circulation, and the Bank of England had no one pound notes to issue in the seemd of them. At present its Si. notes w.,uld serve as tvell as sovereigns to pay country bank notes. The proposed plan would make a legal tender of its Si. notes. The bankers said, that there was now no opportunity of snaking a run on the bank, as there was no one pound notes in circulation. At present the Bank of Englan d notes of 51. were supported by the whole credit of th - Bank ; but if the Bank itself were to be doubted, it would be no got d snaking the Bank of England notes a legal tender. He :meat say, that he looked upon the resolution making Bank of England notes a legal tender as having a tendency again to expose us to a Bank Restriction Act, and to all those evils and dangers which we bad already encountered. When he first heard that it was the intention of the Government to make Bank of England notes a legal tender, the impression on his mind was surprise, and some doubts of its advantage. The more he had considered it, the snore be was convinced that it was not required. He could not see the necessity of snaking any alteration in the present system. No facts had been mentioned to show that it was necessary ; on the contrary, he thought it would be disadvantageous. Suppose , a run were made on the country bankers, they bad now the Bank of England to apply to ; it was stable and solid, and what advantage could be obtained by making its notes a legal tender ? If the country bankers offered Bank of England note., nobody could reject them. If the run were for gold, and Bank of Eagland notes were not liked, the proposed plan could only put off the evil for a day or two. The notes of the Bank of England obtained from the country bankers could be sent to the Bank of England. The consequence, too, of that would he, that the whole pressure, part of which is now borne by country bankers, would be thrown on the Bank of England ; and that pressure would be exclusively for gold. A demand of that kind coming from the whole country would be a pressure greater than the Bank could resist. The more he reflected on the subject, the more he was struck with the danger of interfering unnecessarily with the present system. After going through great suffering, we had got a currency established on the precious metals—it was stable and safe, and why should it be meddled with? It was most unwise to tamper with it—most unwise to interfere with it, by introducing the Bank of England note as a legal tender. It was at present stable, and why run the risk of involving the country in ruin ? At present the country bankers are the means of distributing through the country a copious supple of credit, and if they were de stroyed, and the supply were not so copious as at present, what ...now he the ennsequence? The consequence, he believed, svotrA be, that the people would demand the IL notes. If that demand were complied with, tbe eon.- sequence of that again would be another Bank Restriction Act, and ail the evils which f ,itoweti in Its train. He was extremely sorry that such a measure had been pro posed. He spoke doubtfully, indeed, of its effects, for he observed that there was a great difference of opinion among the best informed men. Another point occurred to him. It was stated in the evidence taken before the Committee last Session, by his Friend the Hon. Member for Walsall (Mr. Forster), and Mr. Stracey, that there was a time when the people in the neighbourhood bad doubts about Bank of Eagland notes, and that they had been supported by the credit of these country bankers. But suppose that such a doubt should arise after the Bank of England notes were made a legal tender—and suppose that the effect of his Noble Friend's plan would be, as he believed it, to put an end to country bankers, on what then could the Bank of ngland notes rest? At present the credit of the count7y bankers supported those notes; but when they were gone the Bank of England notes would have nothing rt rest on. He maintained that, in the country, the banke' there supported the credit of the Bank of Eng land. had no doubt that his Noble Friend (Lord Althorp) had done his duty in making the proposition, and he Ind only done his duty in disclosing his opposition to the prnciple of snaking Bank notes a legal tender. Mr. FARING adverted to the varieties of opinion which were enfrtained on this subject, which made it extremely desirableto be very cautious in forming and expressing an opinion. It was, however , the conviction of his mind, aper currency would not be safe unless the Bank of Eng gthroatunthd4 sod paper were made a legal tender. On that that ourPle should support the resolution. He understood Noble Lord had made, before he entered the House, t! a re ution of the currenc non, not on the grounds that it would operate as what b thought. an improper concession. He supported the resi yf but because it wgs his con- Chang PlYable oi stol en —and whichthat the it the circulation of paper, unless there was some securi y tha oordin -ti in prices, and those continual di ffi culties to which we have L oe ay g abl w " as la m tri ost e"l des a ira n b o l t e bshavoueltdhebefuelilteantal--Htage!nt t ISNor b t l fe e L th i! That w e t e p s o h e o e u d should not and t w be e i c e ll a o s mighted to be those aeoid ed,by continual e a b c l i h n a g the St it fu rt 1 country bankers to offer the Bank of England notes as It i England complete payment. Gentlemen were alarmed at the :mute Why shou of the Bank Restriction Act, but let them consider what was proposed. It was not to make a legal t e nder of Ban k seek reney, it only of England notes in place of specie--it was only removing would b the demand on the Bank one step. The country banke d " partial los ferent situ might be obtained for Bank of England note!, and they Stock. would give Bank of England notes instead of gold, but gold might be securely converted into specie at some place of ; 1 stock cot respectable and wealthy as any race of men in existence, • c withdraw other. The bankers of the City of London, who were se I made their payments by means of the Bank of En g la nd ' would fi n ' pose of pr If any gentleman was to go to a banker in Lombard-street banks, and present his check for fifty thousand pounds, and de' of their n mand cash, the banker would not give him gold over his nonseque , counter; he would give an order or note on the Bank es payable i England for the money, where it would be obtained. That in every ; was not a denial of payment in specie. He saw then, 60 Act of the proposed plan was only making the parties who de which ha aired specie take one step more before obtaining it. A 0 tion whi additional security would be given to the paper eurreod t i mes tno of the country—the security of the Bank of England.. , would in , and an assurance founded on its credit, that gold might twin in duously I be had on being asked for there, though not paid in ti ll other nee first instance. The measure was not introduced for al man nblwe won benefit of the country bankers; but it was a desiderata.. to keep out as much paper as possible, and to prev e n t a door th those panics or frights e hieh sometimes arose, from dir ficult to , maging the Bank of En land. It was to guard agaill i miles fro is-locker such fears, by giving the , ,e who were alarmed a delay distingui, twenty-four hours in getting gold, that he thought th e prope lle d measure good.—(Hear, hear.) Any gentleman must b l i two mon fastidious to say, that such a measure would injure th the curre Noble L, credit of the Bank, or endanger the stability of the cue . ; Lord Wei rency. The Hon. Gentleman opposite (Sir Georg declaring Phillips) said that we had at present a stable currenet But at I founded, as all currency ought to be, on the preciote maitre,_ metals ; and that it was not good to alter it from aill other the, W ., ly had slot crotchets of any man. But what security, or what st , s , ' bility was there in 1825 ?—(Elear.) Then we bad t"' direeted beautiful currency, which tle, lion. Gentleman though currency so secure ; but when the pressure came, it was fouo wanting. In fair weather, and under ordinary circuit!' Noble Lo stances, it was stable and secure enough, hut not when I I __ flaw, was tried. So the Hon. Gentleman might go to seat f proposed some tub of a ship, and find it sate enough in fine we paying Leer, but when th e gale came, he would find her untit tof (Hear.) stand the sea. We were only saved wi th our beautif., currency from thumping on the rocks by a miracle : A an repu 1826—that of the discovery of a box of I/. notes. these facts before them be could not say that our C":, be—... ,, i s rency was the best possible. Setting aside all reasont on dente, and all theory, experience showed them that our In up 0 , sent currency did not deserve the description given oi l , all otl, tr by the Hon. Baronet. The panic and difficulties t ii ruin, we, 1826 were yet fresh in their recollection; and it wan_,„ heard— make a provision against a recurrence of them that : be is sue , Noble Lord made his proposition.—(Hear, hear.) 1 , 4 but h ew , Honourable Gentleman had spoken of the cou p be odd bankers ; hut, he believed that they would find then with Ad selves in no comfortable situation if the credit of the IV, that noi of England were to fail. There was no practical ans° l : for a sm , all Lombard-street—and there were no more practice i bahly, el s nr experienced men in the empire—who would not cire t o at ; the Hon. Gentleman that nothing would be more 0, does at gerous than to boast of being able to fufil his engagenil under tie without the support of the Bank of England. In " 1 of th e 1 it was the great credit of the Bank of England 0° perh aps was the foundation of all individual security. A ~, as attempts made against the security of the Bank of E°l, ,:it At 0 , land would find it unassailable. The most wild of t of Lond, country banks would not be solvent but for the davit rretty n England. It would be impossible that the curre and deal could be placed on a safe footing, except by relying oo , and ails, Bank of England. It seemed to hint an :st unfurtult e p art oft to assert that the Bank of England might get i ° , in Scott discredit without the assistance of the country bank s ' gold re It was the duty of the House, in renewing the Bank ', almost rower England Charter, to render events of the description s merce h those of 1826 impossible. The great object was to P i also sal( against such events—to stop the panic inning the peer; paper ca and secure the Bank against danger. It was the deoln lating l] made on the Bank of England, to provide against,: than a demands on account of deposits, as the Right P ° gation I °I prtitioi Gentleman bad stated, which caused the principal rec b p a , n rf k ee n t the Bank. He admitted that the Bank notes retul safety t were not of so much importance. In panics, the cotre i bankers were obliged to be prepared for the demand', panics i their deposits ; and on this account be was prepare d which support the plan. t diinis Sr G. PIIILLIPS and Mr. BARING mutually explitiet,, ob lig e , S r ROBERT PEEL said the argument was, s o i conduc t ti h n e n a , b a u n n d da th n a c t e a ci n f s i. m .ti a e ll o n f ot o es ne st a i n m i ul: w te o d p u o n u d n u d e n s o pee teol m pr alpicoiro , the effect of encouraging the departure of coin from is alwa kingdom; and whenever a crisis strived, whenever tvt tirculai was a cotnmercial panic, all the deposits were irnmedi o, demanded in gold, because the depositors bad no o', smaller deuce in a paper currency. But His Hon. Friend hslis; a great right to contend that the paper currency was the , puny _ now as it was formerly. One and two pound notes 7, somata, now prohibited, and consequently a more equal diffir pu b lic. of gold currency was secured, whilst the existing 1 01 , t o b e ri was convertible into coin on demand. There was e t ,- l e , t h i therefore, no risk of any commercial panic similar to .A any br of 1825, for the inducement that formerly prevail e d to eau, longer existed.—(Hear, hear.) His' Hon. Ft iend it was highly desirable to secure the country againi% reusoci effects of plitical excitement. His Hon. Friend , apt) . quite right in making that statement, and he IWO a rw... ! the advantages which would accrue to the couetr); bod:l establishing unlimited confidence in the Bank of Engi , might Everything which tended to confidence and security i 0 decree country was good; but was it possible to give this Cl went, deuce by an Act of Parliament?—(Hear, hear.) 2: Al Hon. Friend had referred to the confidence plaevf Ihrin bankers' checks on the Bank of nglan True, , riach whence did that entire confidence E arise ? d. Because 0 A ir, was no interference of an Act of Parliament. A' , / 3 1 any n , had said, commercial confidence gave bankers' che c fared currency on the Exchange because they had nol le , mural Westminster Hall. All depended on commercial C f : twant dence ; and if his Hon. Friend were to pass a law to A l i people to pl ice confidence in cheeks, the result would t: ° ; Here reedy opposite to his wishes. His Hon. Friend Oa stronp referred to the want of confidence which ris i ‘ in Vie ford war or convulsion was likely to produce ; but whrt 6 , Panic! would ask, was that want of confidence likely first to el: Berm. Not in remote country towns, but in London. 11 1 tic al I too, had been spoken of the advantages resulting fre,, Possit intermediate state; but what had been the effect oi, Predi, in the case of the Sco..ett Rinks with their optional cli ) siona Tne Scotch banks ht.d f einetly the clause giving 1 0 issue, the option either of paying their notes at one, in toe,, stock currency, or deferring the plyment for six months, g'i keep interest in the meanwhile. The result of this, as i ! l i caul( fries, as s compa r ed state d , w as, with h t the exchangeCar li sle, full 4 was p,r cent.. agai n st ` (j o t. t ba i a l e t r o , hear.) He did not see any reason why the prope'r' t for ( terference with country bankers should take place. He 1 1, 1 say, let the country bankers issue notes convertible . I ' Sues metallic currency, and let them provide what seet l s pi „ might be thought right for the deposits put into f h a d hands, but give them the right of claiming notice e ii f or withdrawal of any deposit. This would be much lr, ten, than compelling them to pay in bank paper. i 3 c7 th e how open was this plan to evasion? As there vi ° , ir see bank note under W., depositors would only have 10 ' bti as many checks as they pleased for U. 195., and theY", t,, compel payment in metallic currency. This, of el! n , would not be resorted to on ordinary occasions ; bu t .. ; of on ordinary occasions there was no danger. The u'' II in view was to provide against the effects of a panic,'' p ther general or partial; and when this existed, no thi°, b the world could prevent depositors from resorting to ° l) ' t ' J possible expedient to withdraw their deposits and ~' payment in the only currency in which they could r i confidence.—( Hear, hear.) The Noble Lard Oa,' I Right Honourable Gentleman appeared utterly tot ' I discarded from their consideration the various T I of evasion to which this plan was open.—(''' hear, hear.) The Noble Lord came down to House to-night, and much to his surprise, pre that 51. notes should be convertible into gold demand, and this was a most serious and important alt tion. The effect of it would be this—to give g dir e r? gislative premium on the withholding of 51. notes , the market.— (H ear .) It wou ld a l ao , i n . hi s 0 1 11 '; operate most injuriously on the country bankers in $, of panic ; fur the whole scope of this Bill was to ir l country bankers cot to keep gold in their coffers, l'' rely on the Bank of England for supplying them tvi th means of meeting all demands ; and if a panic oc l l arise, the bankers would come up to town and carry not gold, but bank-notes. What, however, w ould t i bankers say when they found the holders of Bank of Ii hod Si. notes pressing them for gold, which they issuredly would do? The Noble Lord hail, indeed, that no man was to take two 51. notes together and e . l gold for them, because that would, in t,e , ,, be derner f ! gold for 10/. ; but what would the Noble Lord saytl e ! holder of several Si. notes were to present one at t' l ; terval of every half hour—or suppose he bad 501• '.f notes, and were to employ all his servants in oho• payment for these separately—what would the NO litve Ur i t as w Witl