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Judge differed from him, and proposed to adjourn the court till the following day. To this he objected, statirg that as it was not a legal court, they could not adjourn it. He afterwards transmitted a letter to the Secretary to Go vernment, stating not only that he could not act without the Chief Justice, but that all decisions come to in his ab sence were illegal. He (Sir G. Murray) thought that this was a question of law, and it appeared to him that the best course would be to bring it under the considera of His Majesty's Privy Council. He made some objection on the ground of expense, to that proceeding. But to obviate that complaint, Government undertook to defray the expense. The case was argued in the Privy Council, the Lord Chief Baron, the Vice-Chancellor, and Sir C. Robinson being present ; the charge of Mr. Willis amount • ed to this—that his removal was unwarranted, illegal, and void ; and the decision of the Privy Council was, that his removal way not unwarranted, illegal, or void. The petition was laid upon the table. Lord MILTON presented a petition with from 13,000 t., 14,000 signatures from bankers, merchants, manufac turers, and other inhabitants of the borough of Leeds, praying for retrenchment and a reform in Parliament. The Noble Lord observed, that there was scarcely an alle gation or wish contained in the petition in which he did not entirely concur. Mr. MARSHALL supported the petition, and stated that it was most respectably signed. After a few words from Mr. DUNCOMBE the petition was ordered to be printed. Lord MILTON presented a petition from Rotherham, Yorkshire, for economy and retrenchment. The peti tioners also expressed a hope, as the currency had been placed on a solid basis, that Parliament would not further interfere with that intricate subject, Sir H. VIVIAN presented a petition from Licensed Vic tuallers of New Windsor, against the Sale of Beer Bill. Sir T. ACLAND presented a petition, agreed to at a county meeting of inhabitants of Devon, and numerously signed by individuals who were either owners of land, or payers or receivers of tithes, praying for a commutation of tithes. • Lord EBRINGTON expressed his entire concurrence in the prayer of the petition.—Ordered to be printed. Nis I'. ACLAND presented a petition from Teignmouth and its vicinity, for a remission of the duties on coal and calm. Mr. W. SMITH presented a petition from about 500 owners and occupiers of public-houses in the city of Nor wich and its vicinity, praying for some modification of the sale of Beer Bill, with a view to prevent the consumption of beer on premises where sold. The Hon. Member pre sented a petition from the Mayor and Magistrates of Nor wich to the same effect. He also presented a petition from spinners of Oldham, praying that the regulation with respect to the employment of children in cotton mills, might be extended to their employment in silk mills, and in woollen manufactures. _ _ Mr. MARSHALL presented a petition from certain Protestant Dissenters in the county of York, against Negro Slavery. Air. O'HARA presented a petition from letter-press printers of the town of Galway, against the proposed ad dition to the duty on newspapers ; also a petition, to the same effect, from merchants, traders, and other inhabitants of Galway. Mr. FERGUSSON presented a petition from certain &Mere in wines and spirits in Castle Douglas, complaining of the conduct of the magistrates in refusing them certifi cates in order to obtain licences for the sale of small quan tities of the above liquors. Mr. ROBINSON presented a petition from the Mayor, Aldermen, and others of Worcester, against the renewal of ti:e Insolvent Debtors' Act. _ _ Mr. F. PALMER presented a petition from Reading, in favour of the Sale of Beer Bill. The Hon. Member stated, that the petition was higned by 1,500 persons in the course of Saturday last. The Hon. Member presented another petition, signed by 100 shopkeepers of Henley-on- I homes, to the same effect. - _ _ _ MONCK agreed with the petitioners, that the sale of beer could not be evade too free, and the only point in which he differed from them was in thinking that every seller of beer ought not to turn his dwelling into an ale house.—The petitions were then read and ordered to lie on the table. Mr. D. W. HARVEY moved for a continuation, up to the present time, of the returns respecting public charities, and the number of informations filed respecting them. Also for a return of the fees and emoluments for searches for judgments received during the last seven years, by the Jerks of the judgment offices in the Courts of King's Bench, Common Pleas, and Exchequer, stating the names of the persons receiving them, and whether such persons performed the duties of their office as deputies for others, and if so, for for whom.—Ordered. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER presented a petition from. Armagh, against the prijected increase in the stamp duties in Ireland.—(Hear and laughter.) Mr. BROUGHAM supported the prayer of the petition. Ile hoped the Right Hon. Gentleman would not turn a deaf ear to the wishes of his constituents,—(Hear, and laughter.)—The general opinion was, that the prfdeeted impost would annihilate the newspaper press in Ireland. ---The petition to lie on the table. Mr. WARBURTON pre seated a p•tition from Bridport, in favour of the Sale of Beerßill, w:th the exception of that clause of it which allowed the beer to be consumed on the premises. Also a petition from the owners of the Brid port brewery, against the practice of billeting soldiers on retail dealers in heer.—To lie on the table. _ _ _ Mr. DICKINSON presented a petition from victuallers of places in the county of Somerset, against the Sale of Beer Bill. —To lie on the table. Mr. Alderman THOMPSON gave notice, that on Wednesday, the 19th inst., he should move for leave to bring in a Bill to declare in what cases public charities should be assessed for parochial pui poses. FEES OF OFFICE ON DEMISE OF THE CROWN. Mr. HUME moved for leave to bring in a Bill to abolish the taking of fees on the renewal or continuation of office in case of the demise of the Crown. Leave given. Bill to be brought in by Mr. Hume and Mr. WARBURTON. LORD LIEUTENANT OF IRELAND. Mr. lIUME said that the saving of the salary of the Lord Lieutenant was, on his view of this question, a subject of minor importance. If the change he new pro posed had been made 25 years ago, many millions would have been saved. No less than 10,000,000/. and a half had been paid since 1800, towards the charitable institu tions of Ireland and for other purposes, which it was said would promote the internal government of that country. If this money had really been spent for the good of Ire land, he should not regret it ; but as he knew that a great part of it had gone towards keeping up party spirit, and setting a few over the mass of the people, he could not help lamenting that the money of England had been so mis-spent. The local influence of the Government of Ireland had occasioned the greatest mischiefs. When a Committee of that House, with the Noble Lord, the Secre tary for Ireland, at the head of it, recommended that great repuctions should be made in the expenditure of Ireland, and when these recommendations had been so little at tended to in the estimates laid upon the table, to what could he attribute this fact, but to the local influence of the Irish Government, which was too strong even for the Government of this country ? At the time of the Union Mr. Pitt, and his Majesty who then filled the throne, de. dared it to be intended that Ireland should be blended with England, and be united in all respects to this country. Instead, however, of being made an integral part of Eng land, Ireland had been converted into a province, and subjected to all the vices of a colonial government. They had passed separate Bills for Ireland ; the establishments of that country were on a different footing from the establish ments of England. The retainers of the Lord Lieutenaut were different from the people of Ireland. This could not fail of displeasing the mass of the Irish, and there could be no union till the system was altered. Of the Irish, too, the Orange party had the preference. In a word, we had treated Ireland exactly as we had treated the rest of our colonies. Canada and Ireland pre sented the same picture of misgovernment. The only way to get rid of the evils of this system was to retrace our steps—to place Ireland on the same footing with respect to its internal government as Scotland and England. The question then came, what would be the obstacles to the removal of this sys►em of deputed government in Ireland ? He had seriously considered the subject in every point of view, and be saw nothing which would prevent his plan being carried into immediate effect. In the present mode of government, no Irishman could have the same feeling of independence as an Englishman or a Scotchman. He must feel his country degraded to the condition of a pro vince or rather a colony. She was governed in the same manner as Jamaica or any other colony. The Lord Lieutenant, or Governor-General, was appointed in the cue case by the King in Council, and is under the control of the Colonial Secretary. In the other case he is appointed in the same manner, but under the controul of the Secre tary for the Home Department. The Hon. Member then went on to contend that this deputed power led to abuses which could never exist if the country were governed as Scotland or any other part of the united kingdom. One great cause of the strength of England would be found in her complete union with Ireland ; while the latter was in a weak or impoverished state, England must feel the ef fects in a diminution of her resources. When Ireland had a separate Pai liament_when she had a separate militart force, a Secretary at War, g separate artillery and corn, missariat,—then a Lord Lieutenant, as the head and di re ttr of the whole, was necessary; but now all these were removed, and the business connected with them was done in London. The Union —that measure, which, when considered dispassionately must, he thought, be approved by every friend to Ireland, as beneficial to the two countries —had brought a change not only with respect to those de partments, but also with respect to the Customs, the Excise, the Board of Stamps, the Post-office, and several other public dep trtments, the direction and management of which had been removed, or were in progress of removal to London; so that, is fact, the Lord Lieutenant had little more to do than the passing of some accounts laid before him by the Vice- Treasurer of Ireland (an office, by the way, Which he thought wholly unnecessary, and ought to have been abo lished if the Government showed a due regard to economy) and the nominal eXecution of some orders which might be as well done under the direction of a secretary for Ireland resident in London. The whole, or nearly the whole busi ness of the departments to which ho had referred, was now centred in the Treasury here. The Hon. Member then took a review of the principal business performed in Dublin under the nominal superintendence of the Lord Lieutenant, and contended that the whole, with perhaps the police, could be as well directed in London by a secretary as now with the expensive pageant of a Lord Lieutenant and his suite. The business of the Council office was, he ob served, but trifling, and might without inconvenience be as well yerformed here. It might be said that there was a great advantage in the fact of a Lord-Lieutenant holding a court in Dublin, but of what importance was that to the great mass of the people there? It might be advantageous, or so considered by some little-great men in that country, who affected great superiority over others by the fact of being admitted to the castle on certain state occasions, but it was certain that the holding a court in Dublin was de structive of that society which would otherwise be found there. He had no doubt that if there were no court in Dublin, many of the landed proprietors would go and re side there, as landed proprietors did now in Edinburgh, and enjoy an equal and comfortable society from which they were debarred by the existence in that city of those state parties. When he last brought this subject before the House, he was met by a statement of the evils which the removal of the legislature had brought upon Dublin— that grass was growing in the streets, and that a great por tion of her houses were, gone to ruin. He had since made inquiries into the fact, and he would state the result. So far then from its being true that Dublin had decreased since the Union, it had increased in the number of houses and inha bitants. From 1800 to 1822, (the year before that in. which he first introduced this subject) the increase of the number of houses was 3,463, being nearly a fifth cf the whole number of 19,864: The population was then 223,000, having increased between 40,000 and 50,000. The increase in the shipping was also great. In 1800, the number of ships was 2,575 ; in 1822, it was 3,400, and at present, 4,000. The tonnage bad also in creased 113,000 tons. It was suggested that this increase of shipping might have been occasioned at the expense of the out-ports ; but this was not the case, for the out-ports had increased in the same time. In 1800, the number of vessels was 4,800 ; in 1822, 7,900 ; and last year, 11,700. The tonnage in 1800 was 664,000 ; in 1822, it was 953,000 ; and in the last year, 1,470,000, being an in crease of upwards of 500,000 tons in the last seven yea's. It was impossible, then, to assert with any justice that Ireland had deteriorated since the Union. The exports in the year 1790 were, exclusive of those to England (as we understood), in official value, 3,450,137/. In 1820, 7,160,0001., being more than doubled within that time. The Mon. Member then entered into an examination of the business done in the office of the Secretary for Ireland, which he said was divided into twelve departments, the management or direction of the whole of which might, he contended, be removed to London, and be performed by an Irish Secretary resident bete. With respect to the de partment that related to the extension of mercy in crimi nal cases, he conceived that there could be no difficulty whatever in transferring it. His only difficulty was the selection of the way in which he should bring this subject before the House. He might have moved that the House resolve itself into a Committee, to consider on the expe diency of making some change in the form of Government in Ireland. That, however, was not the shape in which he intended to submit his motion, which was as follows : —‘, That an humble address be presented to his Majesty, praying that he will begraciously pleased to consider whe ther the office of Viceroy was any longer necessary in Ire land, or whether it could be dispensed with consistently , with the advantage of that country, and the general inte rests of the United Kingdom." The motion having been seconded, was then put from the Chair. Lord F. L. GOWER was entirely at a loss to discover the proofs upon which the Hon. Gentleman established his assumption. He had asserted, that the defects and abuses existing in the charitable institutions of Ireland would have been remedied, but for the continuance of the office of Lord Lieutenant since the Union. Now, he had to request that the House would have the patience to sus pend its judgment until he should be enabled to disabuse ;he minds of Hon. Members who might give credence to this representation, which he could do most effectually, by showing certain redactions in the estimates hereafter to be submitted. It was not judicious, in his opinion, to debate the present subject so soon after the settlement of the Catholic question, involving as it did, a great differ ence of opinion amongst the wise and moderate of all par ties in Ireland. He did not pretend to say, that it was a question which the House might not with propriety take into consideration, and still less was he inclined to affirm that the Hon. Member had adduced arguments which deserved to be treated with inattention or disrespect. He was not, however, prepared to assent to his inference that the subversion of the executive power in Dublin and its resurrection at the Home Office, shorn of its usual attributes, would be productive of benefit to Ire land. The Court of the Lord Lieutenant had not merited the stigma which the Hon. Gentleman endea voured to affix to it, by stating that it was surrounded by numerous needy dependents, who received profitable promotion, and cherished at the same time a rooted jea lousy and dislike of the native inhabitants and all else that might be considered peculiarly Irish. Such an ob servation applied to the courtiers who accompanied King John when a guest in Ireland, but his own personal experience of two Vice-regal Courts of the present day led him to form a contrary conclusion. The argu ment that the Irish establishment tended to prevent an assimilation between the habits of the people with those of England was, in his judgment, equally destitute of foundation. What had bren urged respecting a late arbitrary act of power on the part of the Lord Lieutenant but tended to convince him the mere of the utility of that office.—(Hear, hear.)—As to the vice-regal influence on the administration of the criminal law, it would not be tifficult to prove by detailg, with which the Hon. Mem ber for Limerick was well acquainted, that a most bene- ficial effect was thereby practically exercised on the work ing system as compared with that of England. He could himself bear testimony to the success of the exertions of two Viceroys continually directed to this subject. It was not in his power to devise, nor had the Hon. Member for Aberdeen suggested, any mode of removing the difficulties which opposed themselves to the adoption of his advice. The general advance of the prosperity of Dublin since the Union, it was admitted, bad been demonstrated; but .__ was it not rather illogical to conclude, that the system under which that prosperity was created ought to be changed ? In fact no 'case bad been made out which could induce the House to adopt the proposed resolution, and the discussion of the subject at present was both im: politic and inconvenient. Mr. S. RICE was particularly happy that the motion was grounded rather on good government than on eco nomy; for although no one regarded economy more than himself, he held the good government of Ireland to be a point of more importance. He did not perceive that local government was sufficiently recommended by local considerations. In Dublin, it was probable that this motion might be unpopular, but he was convinced that the people of Ireland generally were far from opposed to the change which it referred to. The speech of the Noble Lord certainly prepared him for Ministerial concession, and he had now little doubt that the time was Not very distant when Government would come forward with a propwal of the . . . kind contemplated by the Member for Aberdeen. This being his impression, it appeared to him that it only remained for the House to quicken their motion and anticipate their intention. If Hon. Members looked back to the frequent changes of the Chief Secretary of Ireland since the Union, they would see what must be the effect of the system of shifting and changing. The average continuance of each was 19 months. Just at the time when they knew some thing of business, they were led to abandon the country, _ and deliver over a most difficult political task to a new practitioner. This practice alone would lead to a system of misgovernment; but in Ireland there was a small body of gentlemen, called the Catholic Government of Ireland, men who were unknown, and who did not deserve to be otherwise, but who held the strings of office, and all the efficient power, and became the instruments of party, the discords of which they continued. Did the gentlemen of Ireland believe that the Noble Duke, as Lord Lieu tenant, possessed the whole influence in Ireland ? No : they felt that it was exercised by a small coterie at the Castle. This was the general impression, and it was founded on facts which deprived Government of strength. He did not think that the institutions of Ireland received much advantage from the presence of a Vice-regal Court; and he predicted that the accomplishment of the destiny of that Court was not far off. He concurred in the mo tion of the Hon. Member for Aberdeen, which did not pledge those who voted for it to the abolition of the office of Lord Lieutenant, but called upon Government to exer cise their deliberation on the subject. Lord L. GOWER explained. Mr. MOORE opposed the motion. The general• im pression in Ireland was in favour of the office of Lord Lieutenant. No circumstance would produce greater exasperation of feeling, or increase an opinion which was growing in Ireland, that Ireland was not regarded in this country, than the abolition of the Lord Lieutenant and his Court Sir H. PARNELL supported the motion. As to the feelings of the people of Ireland respecting the abolition of the office, he (Sir H. Parnell) had had several communi cations on the subject, and he could only say, that amongst intelligent persons, the opinion was that the lean ing of the people of Ireland was in favour of the abolition of the office. Lord OXMANTOWN said, it was only three weeks since lie had left Ireland, where this motion was a sub ject of discussion : he had heard the opinions of many on the subject, and never had met with a single individual who was not decidedly hostile to it. He opposed the motion on the ground that he conceived the abolition of the office would greatly increase the number of absentees in Ireland.—(Hear.) Lord ALTHORP said, that as the motion of his Hon• Friend the Member for Aberdeen was simply a motion to have the policy of continuing the office of Lord Lieutenant of Ireland taken into consideration, every Member who felt the slightest doubt on the subject, ought, if he valued his consistency, to vote in support of it. The question which his Hon. Friend had that evening submitted to the House was certainly a question of doubt; but still his (Lord Althorp's) mind was nearly satisfied that the office of Lord Lieutenant of Ireland ought to be abolished. There was no more r••ason for having a separate govern ment kept up in Ireland, with the present rapid and easy communication with that country, than there was for hav ing a separate Government kept up—he would not say in Scotland, but—in the northern counties of England. If, upon the abolition of the office of Lord Lieutenant of Ire land, there were appointed in each county of that kingdom a Lord Lieutenant, enjoying similar powers and privileges with the Lords Lieutenant of counties in England, all the difficulties which some gentlemen apprehended from the abolition would he entirely obviated. Putting out of his consideration the pecuniary view of this measure, he should certainly feel it to be his duty to give his support to the motion of his Hon. Friend. Sir G. MURRAY said that the vacillation observable in the policy pursued by the different Secretaries of State for Ireland was not attributable to the individual character 1 of the different Noblemen who had acted as Viceroys, but to the system adopted by Administration in England. That vacillation was now at an end, for a new system had recently been adopted with respect to Ireland, which would he beneficial, he trusted, not merely to that country, but to the empire at large. He was of opinion that, as a piece of machinery for conducting the Government of Ireland, the office of Lord Lieutenant had been of great advantage. It might, perhaps, be dispensed with now, but he was convinced that up to the present time it had been essen • tially necessary and positively useful. He confessed that he was inclined to think that the residence of the Lord Lieutenant in Dublin was of great advantage to that me tropolis, and also of no slight service to the country in ge neral. There was but one argument against it which ap peared to him to be deserving of any weight, and that was founded upon economy, a consideration which the Hon. Member for Northamptonshire was inclined to throw overboard in his mode of treating this question. He ad mitted that a saving to the public would accrue from the removal of the Vice-regal Court from Dublin ; but he thought that that saving would be a minor consideration, unless it could he distinctly made Out that Ireland would receive no detriment in any other respect from having such a measure carried immediately into effect. Mr. O'CONNELL said, that if the people of Ireland had supposed that this ;notion was seriously intended, their sentiments upon it would have been made known to the House in language and tones too plain to be misunder stood. He contended that the feelings of the people of Ireland were decidedly hostile to the abolition of the office of Lord Lieutenant; for they were convinced that it would considerably increase the number of absentee• from that country. Besides, there was an advantage in having a Lord Lieutenant resident in Ireland, which ought not to be overlooked. By his presence on the spot he gained an influence and authority over contending factions, which could never be acquired by any secondary species of a dis tant Government. In conclusion he declared himse: hostile to the change proposed, because it would inflict great injury upon the city of Dublin, where misery was al ready in the extreme. Mr. I3ROWNLOW considered the motion of his Hon. Friend the Member for Aberdeen entitled to the best con sideration and support of the House. Nothing like a substantial argument had been offered by gentlemen on the other side to convince the House of the propriety of continuing to maintain the Vice-regal Court in Ireland.— He had been much pleased with the speeches which he had just heard from two of his Majesty's Ministers, for those speeches convinced him that the real question upon this subject was merely a question of time.—(Hear, hear.) If there was no objection upon principle to the abolition of this office,—and as yet he had heard none,—why was it not the duty of Members of Parliament to press the ques tion upon the Government at present? He said distinctly that the time was now arrived for getting rid of this sys tem of government for Ireland.—(Hear.) During the last 30 years continual efforts had been made to assimilate the Government of Ireland to that of England. There had been an union of the Parliaments of the two countries; the Boards of Excise and Customs had been amalgamated ; various other public bodies had been united. Why, then, should not Parliament go a step further, and assimilate the mode of governing the two countries?—(Hear.) Why should not the English Cabinet tike the Government of Ireland into its own hands, and administer the English Constitution in Ireland as they did in England ? It was mere folly to talk of the people of Ireland being strongly attached to this form of local government.—(Hear, hear.) They had suffered too much oppression from it; they had seen too much corruption in its proceedings to have any predilection for it.—(Hear.) He concluded by giving his warmest support to the motion of his Hon. Friend. Lord CASTLEREAGIT should be sorry to see the office abolished without stronger reasons being offered for the measure than had been adduced on the present occasion. Mr. JEPHSON opposed the motion. Sir J. YORKE wished to see Ireland no longer go verned like a colony, but as an integral part of the empire, and therefore he would vote for the motion. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER opposed th e motion. He thought that upon qu es ti ons o f thi s kind the House ought to legislate with deference to the feeling of the people. It NV 4S notorious that the general feeling of the people of Ireland was, that the office of Lord Lieute- . . nant was essential to the interests of the country. Mr. HUME shortly replied, and maintained that his arguments had received no answer. His object was to put an end to the mal- government of a faction. The House then divided, when the numbers were, For the motion . ... 11 5 Against it Majority against it ll4 On our re-admission to the gallery we found Mr. BROUGHAM on his legs, but, owing to the noise which prevailed, it was almost impossible to catch what fell from him. We understood the Learned Gentleman to re commend the postponement of Sir James Graham's mo tion respecting the salaries, &c., of the Members of the Privy Council. Sir J. GRAHAM expressed his readiness to postpone his motion till Friday if the Chancellor of the Exchequer would acquiesce in allowing it take precedence on that evening of the Orders of the Day. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER could not acquiesce in such an arrangement. The conversation here dropped. NEWFOUNDLAND. Mr. ROBINSON proceeded with the motion of which he had given notice for the appointment of a select com mittee to inquire into the state of the island of Newfound land. The people of that colony had a right to complain that Government hitherto had done nothing to encourage agriculture there, and though the surface of the island was equal to that of England, the population was depending upon foreign supplies for their corn and other agricultural produce. duce Whenever the fisheri es f a i led, therefore, which they did to a great extent last year, the greatest distress prevailed in that island. The Government, therefore, should encourage agriculture in Newfoundland. The Hon. Member proceeded to state that the reasons which had induced him to bring on this motion, and he justified the course which he had adopted on the ground that the question had not been taken up, as it o ug h t to h ave b een taken up, by his Majesty's Government. He read a letter from Mr. Forbes, now Chief Justice of New South Wales, and who had formerly been in Newfoundland, corrobora tive of hie (Mr. Robinson's) sentiments as to the line of policy which had been hitherto pursued towards that colony, and that which it was now the duty of Govern ment and Parliament to adopt. To prove the importance of the trade of the island, he should merely state, that 831 vessels had entered the ports of Newfoundland in 1827, and that 400 registered vessels were employed in the fishery alone. This colony possessed the additional claim on our consideration, that it did not require any pro tecting duties for its produce. It had, besides, no local legislature, and could only look for justice to an English Parliament. As to the revenue of Newfoundland, the only expense to which the colony put this country was for the support of its military establishment. The Hon. Gentle man concluded by moving " That a select committee be appointed to inquire into the state of the island of New foundland." Sir G. MURRAY was of opinion that the Hon. Mem ber had not made out a ease that rendered it necessary for a Committee of that House to inquire into the state of Newfoundland. The original policy of the Government was to make that colony a nursery for seamen. That system, however, had been altered, and colonization was encouraged. The consequence was, that there was now a population of 80,000 or 9QOOO souls. The old system had been abandoned, they could not return to it, and all they could do was to give to this nucleus of population every possible support, and that he contended was done. The Hon. Gentleman bad observed that Government ought to endeavour to introduce the products, of New foundland into foreign countries on the hest possible terms. He admitted the fact ; but he could not see the necessity of appointing a Committee on that ground, unless it was meant to be contended and to be proved, that Government (lid not obtain such terms from other countries as they ought—an inference the correctness of which he denied. The Hon. Member had referred to the Treaty of Ghent as disadvantageous to this country, with reference to the Newfoundland fishery. He would ask was it fit that a Committee should he appointed to criticise the Treaty of Ghent? And what good, he demanded, could be derived from such an investigation ? He had touched generally on the topics introduced by the Hon. Member, and, so far as he could perceive, the Hon. Member had not esta blished any sufficient ground for the appointment of a Committee. In conclusion, be expressed his intention of opposing the motion. Mr. BERNAL was of opinion that the Hon. Member for Worcester had made out a ease that required the imme diate and serious attention of the House. Mr. LABOUCHERE hoped the Hon. Member would persist in his motion. - Mr. PONSONI3Y supported the motion. Mr. HUME charged the colonial department with neg ligence in their conduct towards this colony; and con tended that the labours of a Committee could alone remedy the evils occasioned by that negligence. He submitted that the Committee alone was the place to obtain infor mation. He hoped the Hon. Member would not withdraw his motion, but if he divided the House with only six gentlemen, and he was sure he would have a greater nucber of friends, he trusted he would persevere. Sir G. MURRAY explained. Mr. WARBURTON said, that those individuals whom he had the honour to represent depended almost entirely on the manufacture of ropes, lines, and ether things used in the fisheries, and it was of great importance to them, and to other persons residing in different places, employed in a similar manner, that the utmost encouragement should be given to the fisheries. Mr. ROBINSON replied. The House then divided, when there appeared— For the motion 2O Against it B2 Majority against the motion —s3 On our entering the gallery we found Mr. BROUGHAM on his legs. He observed, as we understood, that in the last session a Bill had come down flour the other House, for effecting an alteration in the pre sent system of the Court of Chancery. That Bill dis appeared almost immediately. He now understood that another Bill, which was in the p. esent session introduced to the other House, was also about to he withdrawn. In this situation of uncertainty, those who in that House wished to make some reform in the law knew not how to shape their course. He therefore begged leave to ask, if one Chancellor of his Majesty's Government could inform him whether the measure introduced by another Chancellor was likely to proceed ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, he knew nothing whatever of the rumour to which the Learned Gentleman alluded. Mr. BROUG HAM—Oh ! then I suppose I am to con sider the report as utterly groundless. Lord TULLAMORE moved, pursuant to notice, for a Select Committee to inquire into a grant of 18,000/. from the Irish Loan Commissioners to the Grand Canal Com- pany for the extension of the navigation to the town of Kilbeggan. The motion, which was supported by Mr. TUITE, and opposed by Mr. A. DAwsoN and Lord L. GOWEN, was negatived without a division. The other Orders of the day were then disposed of, and Is House adjourned at Three o'clock. OF TWENTY-NINE, IVII iT OF THE MINOR 10 VOTED FOR THE APPO QUIRE INTO THE STAI I IINTMENT OF A SELECT 3 OF THE ISLAND OF Graham, Sir J. Hume, Joseph Jeplison, C. 1). Lamb, Hon. G. Lester, B. Marshall, J. O'Connell, D. Peachy, General Porbonby, Hon. W. l'rotheroe, E. - Rice, T. S. Stewart, Sir M. S. Thomson, C. P. Uxbridge, Earl of Warburton, H. Ward, J. Whitmore, W. W. Wyvill, M. TELLERS. Labouchere, H. Robinson, G. It. L _it „,,,.,,, ---,,, i„........ i ..‘,.,:,,,_„, 0 1 .;PVia64 t 0 -. N. j e:6 7 • t I? :COMMITTEE TO INi N U IVYO UN DL 1N U. Althorp, Viscount Baring, F. Beaumont, T. W. Bernal, It. Bright, H. Brougham, Henry Clements,, Viscount _ Dawson, A. Denison, J. E. Einington, Viscount Gordon, It. PARLIAMENTARY PAPERS. REVENUE, SCOTLAND. Return of the Amount of the Revenue remitted from Scotland, in the Year 1829. Customs £929,114 16 0 Excise 1,096,105 0 0 Stamps 512,200 0 0 Taxes 242,727 11 3 Post-Office Total X 3,525,114 10 4 GEO. It. DAWSON. Whitehall Treasury Chambers, April 29, 1830. WOOL. An Account of the Quantity of British Wool exported from, and of Foreign Wool imported into, London and ti,e Out-ports, during the Year ended Jan. 5, 1830. BRITISH WOOL EXPORTED. lbs. Sheep or Lambs Wool 1,3V,097 Woollen and Worsted Yarn (including Yarn of Wool or Worsted mixed with other materials) 589,559 FOREIGN NVOOL IMPORTED. COUNTRIES FROM WHICH IMPORTED. Russia. 13,614 Denmark ................................................. 9,582 Prussia ......................... . .......................... 850,290 Germany 14,110,006 United Netherlands France Portugal, Azores, and Madeira 53,231 Spain and Canaries 3,755,485 Italy Turkey 394 Cape of Good Hope 37,619 New South Wales and Van Diemen's Land British West Indies United States of America 25,386 Brazil 4,648 States of the Rio de la Plata 158,515 Chili Peru 256,801 Isles of Guernsey, Jersey, Alder- r Produce 8,893 ney, and Man Foreign 18,775 Total 21,525,542 WILLIAM IRVING, Inspector General of Imports and Exports. r,spector General's Office, Custom House, London, April 30, 1830. We understand that Mr. SMITH, against whom Mr. SIMI, was so successful as special Counsel for Mr. OTLAMCRTY in a libel case tried at the last Assizes of Galway, is about to institute new proceedings to re cover further damages on a libel which he alleges was written by Mr. O'FLAHERTY, and mot made the subject matter of the trial in which be has already obtained a ver dict for 7501. from a Dublin Jury.—Dublin Morning Register. SIR W. JONES.—But his brilliant and useful life was rapidly approaching its termination. One evening, in the month of April, 179.1, after incautiously remaining in conversation till a late hour in the open air, he called upon Lord TEic NMOUTII, and complained of aguish symp toms. Those symptoms, in fact, indicated the existence of a complaint common in Bengal —an inflammation of the liver. Two or three days afterwards a physician was called in, but it was too late ; and the disorder, which was unusually rapid, terminated fatally on the 27th of April. On the morning of that day," says Lord TEIGNMOUTIE, " his attendants, alarmed at the evident symptoms of ap proaching dissolution, came precipitately to call the friend who has now the melancholy task of recording the mourn ful event. Not a moment was lost in repairing to his house. Ile was lying on his bed in t posture of medita tion, and the only symptom of remaining life was a small degree of motion in the heart, which, after a few seconds, ceased, and he expired without a pang or groan. His bodily suffering, frotn the complacency of his features and the ease of his attitude, could not have been severe ; and his mind meet have derived consolation from those sources where he had been in the habit of seeking it, and where alone, in our last moments, it can ever be found."—Dr. Lardner's Cabinet Cyclopadia, Vol. VI. LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, MAY 12, 1830. HIS MAJESTY'S HEALTH. The following Bulletin was issued this morn :-- 4 . Windsor Cattle, May 12. " The KING has passed a disturbed night. His Ma -TESTY'S symptoms continue the same. (Signed) " HENRY HALFORD. " MATTHEW J. TIERNEY." The following are extracts from Frankfort Papers, received this morning:— BANKS OF THE DANUBE, APRIL 2.—The administra tion of General Kisseleff, Plenipotentiary President of the Divan, has commenced under the most favourable auspices. The principalities see the germs of a regular order of things rapidly unfolding themselves, which promise to realize the benevolent intentions of their august Pro tector, whose will it is that these countries, which have been so long condemned to a vicious and versatile system of administration, shall at length enjoy all the welfare which their political situation and the fertility of their soil are calculated to afford. Six years have passed since the scourge of the plague began to exercise its ravages in their provinces, and the commerce and prosperity of the adjacent countries have not escaped the effects of its de plorable influence. " The sanitary measures," says the Wallachian Courier, " which have been adopted since the month of November last, have had the most satisfac tory result, the placing of all the persons diseased in laza rettos, subjected to a strict superintendence, and to the most assiduous care, a minute inspection extended to the whole country executed by special Commissioners, under the direction of several General Officers, and a system of pu rification applied with rigorous exactness, have naturally led to the almost total extinction of the disease. Among the few patients still in the hospitals, most are in a stare of perfect convalescence, and the small number of those who are not quite recovered, are however free from all symptoms of plague, and are confined only in consequence of chronic distempers." According to the reports of the Inspector-General, no new case has occurred for the last two months and a half to damp the hope that we shall see the ravages of the plague entirely cease in the country. However, this satisfactory state of things causes no relaxa tion in the rigour of the sanitary measures that have hitherto been adopted. Orders have just been given for a new general examination of the houses in all towns and villages of the two principalities, as a supplement to the general purification, during which ail sus picious goods and effects hare been destroyed by fire. . The preservative system is supported by the establishment of a line of quarantine along the Danube. Galacz, lbrailow, Kalarasch, Ghiurgevo, Zimnitza, Kalafat, Izvorel, and Czernez, have lazarettos, where travellers coming from the right bank of the Danube are subjected to military regulations. Pio-Petri, Oltmizr, Tournoul, Izlar, and Ozacheny, have been selected as places of ex change, and markets have been established there, to which the merchants are obliged to bring their goods. With the exception of the points selected, all communication between the inhabitants of-the two banks is prohibited on pain of death. The President has given notice of these measures to the Pacha and Governors on the right bank, so that henceforth the Mussulman, as well as the Christian traders, will appear in the country only, and dispose of their goods, and not to import the scourge of the plague. The execution of all these measures is of the highest im portance to the adjacent countries of Austria and Russia, and in general to all Europe. Among the numerous ameliorations recently introduced into the country, we must mention with praise the mea sures respecting abuses committed by the Administration, which impoverished the country and demoralised the in habitants, at the same time that they in many respects pa ralysed the course of the Government, which was ill se conded by a multitude of subaltern plunderers. Three Commissioners of inquiry, each consisting of two Boyards of good character and a Russian officer, visit the several districts, inspecting ail the barracks of the public service, and such is the effect of this measure that the cessation of all the abuses, and the disappearance of all prevalent re strictions, already certify the salutary fear inspired by an administration which is found to proceed reasonably in the way of justice and imprisonment. We have just learned from good authority that all the Russian troops stationed in the principalities, which were numerous, hare received orders to commence their return over the Pruth in the beginning of April, to go back to Russia. There will remain in the principalities only a corps under General Kisseleff. Preparations are already making to arrange the stations necessary to facilitate this opera tion, which is the more important as the whole Russian army in Bulgaria only waits for the depart ure o f th ose troops to return to Russia. Field-Marsh a l Count Die bitsch himself is expected at Salunoff about 27th April. INSPRUCK, Aram 26.—The Assembly of the States of Tyrol was opened to-day with the usual ceremonies. After Divine Service, the Count de NVilezek, the Gover nor, went to the Hall, and there received the Members of the States at the foot of the throne. The Goverunl eilt propo sa ls w ere l a id b e f ore t h e Assembly, and the lliar°llai having delive re d a speec h express i ve of the unaltera ble tr ,, tachment and loyalty of the States to his Imperial l‘fej estil the first Sitting of the Assembly commenced. FRANKFORT, MAY 4.—Exchange on London, frcf° Months, 1541. We have not, until lately, been able to pet" with attention the Report of the ext ra ordirl trial of MM. DE P OTTER, T IELMANS , and others, at B russe l s , f or a consp i racy against the Netherlands G overnment , o f w hi c h they 113 st t been found guilty, and sentenced to banishre e° from their country. Their offcrce was the put' lication of ar ti c l es i n t h e j ourna l s, recomme nd ( ing a national subscription for the indemnity ° those public functionaries who had been cli s ', missed from their offices by the Covert-10 1i This, the Judges of Brussels, who are refine r able at the pleasure of the Crown, have dete r , mined to be a seditious conspiracy,—a constre e. i tion which no English lawyer, and certainly English jurym an , cou ld poss ibl y h ave put on th act, had it h a pp ene d h ere ; an d f rom the re sult we may be tau g ht t o apprec i ate more hi g lo than ever, the inestimable value in political pro, secutions, of our independent Judges, and ') our incomparable Trial by Jury. The Nether lands G overnment have, we learn, demesne themselves s o f ar as to request t h e Frenc h Go' banished vernment to refus e an a sy l um to the N e ther Belgians, but even th e P OLIGNAC Mi n i s try i 5 said to have positively r e f use d t o b e a party t° so inhospitable a p rocee di ng , an d M. DE Pot' TER and his f r i en d s w ill pro b a bl y procee d t° Paris, where it w ill b e i n t h e i r power st ill t° contend for the lib er ti es o f B e l g i ans as muc h °s they please. At a ll events , w hil st Great Dri' tain is a nati on , th ere w ill never b e wanting IT asylum for th ose w h o are persecuted for libert y s sake. Our Go vernment h as now no power 19i arrest over suspect e d f ore i gners, as used to be the case under L or d CASTLEREAGH'S Aligl; Act, and it is with pride that we say that ei v ' freedom is the right of every man who sets h is foot on the British shore. Our Ministry ha s ' indeed, been subjected to some imputations for its treatment of the Portuguese refugees, but 4 should be remembered that this was done on th e t express ground o f th e P or t uguese h av i ng for me , themselves into a warlike armament, and C 5l : never, therefore, be any precedent for individO, cases. The sufferers from the persecutions e r continental despots may still, and will, we trust , always turn their eyes to Great Britain as their strength and refuge in the time of trouble. It would have been natural to suppose that s Sovereign called to rule over a people to whom by birth, by religion, and by national recollec tions, he was a stranger, would have done his utmost to conciliate the affections of a people whom history describes as at all times jealous of their liberties, and who had lately, in their union with France, tasted the sweets of many consti' tutional safeguards, of which the marriage of their country with Holland deprived them. It was obvious that, with the amount of intelligence possessed by . the Belgians, increasing yearly with the increase of the stock of knowledge of Europe, it was not to be supposed that 0 purely monarchical, or, as some call it, paternal Government, would satisfy a people thoroughly aware of the advantages of a Constitution, and full of ideas of a philosophical kind, directed to the amelioration of society in general. But when the Government, after an experience ,of some years, established for itself the character of partiality for the Hollanders—when it en' croached upon the guaranteed rights of the Catholic religion, professed by the inhabitants of the Southern provinces, when it attempted to enforce the Dutch language in Belgium, where it was a foreign tongue, and when it laid violent I hands on the Press, the murmurs of popular discontent which had been silently gathering since 1815, began to give themselves vent in a manner calculated to fill the Government with alarm in the progress of their resistance to public opinion. Government, however, like individuals, while they try to act on the principle of self-inte rest, often grossly miscalculate that interest; and the Ministry of the Netherlands has kept the people during the last three years in a ferment, which threatens to shake the stability of the Orange dynasty. Nothing could possibly be more in judicious than the late prosecution, because it has had the effect of drawing the public atten tion more than ever upon the very constitutional questions of which the King of the NzTnnit- LANDS has constantly deprecated the agitation. It cannot but hare excited the Belgians to a more firm and vigorous stand for constitutional rights than heretofore, and it has fixed the eyes of England, of France, and of other civilized nations, upon the Netherlands, whose situation cannot be at present viewed without a just in dignation at that course of policy which has promoted civil dissensions in a country pos sessing every moral and civil qualification for becoming one of the happiest portions of the civilised earth. The plan of M. de POTTER was undoubtedly calculated to embarrass the Government, but it would have been more effectually defeated by some well-timed measure of conciliation than by prosecuting as a conspiracy what was in fact a mere opposition manoeuvre. If M. de POTTER was a conspirator, there is no class of society in Belgium that does not abound with persons who deserve the same name, the truth being M. POTTER'S opini ons represent those o southern pro v i nces i n general, and t t i l l f l at t, the instead of his having disturbed the public peace, it is the Ministry that has done so by their contemptuous disregard of the public voice. We never remember to have seen a more full and perfect justification than the de fence made for the prisoners by their advocate, M. VAN DE WEYER, whose speech contains matters of reflection, not only for the Netherlands Government, but for the abettors of political prosecutions in what country soever. 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