The Sun. — London, England, 1830-09-17 00:00:00

iPIRIT OF THE JOURNALS. The calamitous event which has rendered the spectacle of the Manchester RAilWay fatally me morable will be found deieribed in our columns of to-day by various correspondents. Friuli the na ture of the injuries which Mr. Hushisson received, there did not eppear ' by the last accounts, any ground for hopin that he could long survive the accident, Indee d, a report has reached town that the unfortunate gentleman, who had already under gmemptation, is no more I Still this may be a prema ture a atteitmereekt of an event which appears to be inevitable, It is onljeirweek or two since we had the melancholy task of recording the untimely death of another individual upon this too celebrated railway. At the present moment, when the state of Great Britain, anti of Lurope, requires all the et tendon of the ablest statesmanship to 'control and direct to beoeficial .purposes the extra_ ordinary events that are or daily occurrence, we thought that the Premier of tegland might have beeo better employed, than in indulging in the _ pa geantry which htss led to this mournful issue. We like to see works of mechanical inge nuity and useful enterprise promoted by those who have the means and influence to contribute to their success; but there seemed always to be more parade and ostentation connected with this railway undertaking than was necessary to'recommend to public patronage a work or substantial public utility. There was too much of the " showman". about-it to please our taste, and to this bet the. life of Huskisson been unhappily, sacrifice‘ yhen Sbites men come forward to assist, by their countenance, and support undertakings of a trading company, they should take care to distinguish between. that sort of patronage which can only have the effect of enhancing, for a time, the value of shares, and that which really promotes the practical success of works. Surely if the Manchester railway is calculated to realize all the advantages, in a mercantile point of view, which are said to be its necessary conse quence, it did not require the system of " puffing" which has been for a long time past pursued with regard to it in the _provincial and some of the London papers. 'rite most stupendous public works of our homely and ho nest fort father* recommended themselves by their merits to the good sense and right judgment of the nation which they benefitted and adorned ; but, ever since the joint-stock era exhibitions, pageantry, and ' puffing, with regard to enterprises of science and commerce, are in more favour than they ought to be among a sober and reflecting people. If the Duke of Wellington had leisure time, as it appears he had, tom the cares and business of state, why did he not employ it in visiting the abodes f the distressed manufacturers, and in perambulating the tracts of country from which the petitions of the complaining agriculturists had been poured .into Parliament of late years ? He' would then have seen with his own eyes whether the statements that were made of the suffering and misery of the industrious classes in the last Session of Parliament, in particular, were exaggerated or not ; and, if he found that they had not exceeded the truth, be would have known how to rebuke and silence the taunts, and sneers, and flippant levity of those syco phants of power who treated the miseries of the people with acorn, and turned front their petitions with cold disdain. But the Duke had eyes for nothing but the indications of national prosperity I De looked at railways and canals, and extensive piles of brick and mortar, and told the assembled Senate that these things furnished abundant evidence. of the country being hi a most flourishing condition ; but he had not visited the dilapidated farm-house— the ruined cot—the hovel of the mendicant labourer and starving artizan, where no longer were to be seen thelreces of .".a bold peasantry, their country's pride," but the squalid family of him, who " rose early and lay down late, Olio! ate the bread.ol.care fulness," surpassing . in the cineunstaneea of misery ell that pathetic fiction has described\ of human wretchednese. These were the scenes in which an able and humane Statesman might have learned useful truths—such truths as would have t a ught him to endeavour to repair, by a wholesome policy, the evils which those who had an interest in de ceiving him denied—.such truths as he could not learn amid the glitter arid pomp of sumptuous ban euets and gaudy processions. There he saw only the bright side of the picture, and obstinately ad tiered to a system which wisdom rejects and huma nity deplores I—Morning Herald. Some of our contemporaries have endeavoured to depreciate the courage of the Belgians, and ridi culed them, partly by broad assertions of their own and partly by their Brussels correspondence, which, from its invariable partiality, and general 'gnomee of the eub i ect, appears to be of home manufacture. The Belgians have ever been famous for their human. belligucuse. Without going beck to the re. cords of Roman history, which extols the valour of the Belgian cavalry on many occasions, and particle. lady for the protection it afforded to the Roman legions on their disastrous retried from Persia, tinder Caw, we need only striven to the high renown the Walloon regiments acquired in the Austrian service during the lute revolutionary French \ver, these facts being perfectly within the recollection of the present generation, with the exception of only very young men, young politicians, and some news paper correepondents, whose recollections are, per halm, es limited as their reading. The regiment of Latour dragoons) served with the greatest distinc tion, and was long the terror of the French army.— Your times was this regiment renovated during the campeigus between 170 and 1801, every officer and men having bees either killed or put hors de combat, it being always indulged with the post of honour--that ie,the poet neereet to the enemy. The Belgian infantry was equally celebrated, and not °wily their regular re. glments of foot in the Imperial service, but even the contingent of the Ecclesiastical Prince of Liege,under Colonel Weatieige, fought most gallantly upon all occasions, op - Wally at the celebrated lines of 'Weise iseribourg, Many of the best Austrian Generals were Belgians. (letters! Clairefait, Beaulieu, Bel ',garde, and Prince de Ligne, to wit ; and the re giment of Duke Albert of Saxe Tesehen, one of the diets cuirassier regiments in the Austrian army, wag —e tr eemit-44 anti officered from Belgium as well as that o r Bosse Cheeseurs a Cheval, who suffered so much NI their charges on the Consular Guard at Marengo, bed been recruited ire Belgium. On the other haed,. let us imoire into the testimony of facts as to the warlike spirit of the modern Dutch ' either far titans. . selves or for any one else. In 1701, aed 1794 the :French overran all Holland, and scone g ioiat fired. In 1799 the Texel fleet struck tee regiment of English dragoons, and the Ai-10°4111001mi army gdagneed to Wain seven leagues of Amsterdam, the flativierei retreatiegbefore them, till s French f orce hastened from the Upper Rhine, by forced ;flambee, to their assistance, and turned the Outline of the campaign; and, afterwards, when the Beta. visits for Med separate corps in tIM Frentth army, under General Pemmican, anti even tinder Marshal, Augeresu, the Duke at Castiglione himself, they Rem achieved any brilliant fait:d'armes ; for Napo litie,,Who knew how to form a very correct jutlg realdotit intrunted them with any military opee atklDtatcansntjuence. As to the patriotism of the hs. inhabitants of this classical land of liPorY-e 4 eild gunpowder to Louis XIV. so blow their-own towns about their ears, hatter satisfied to turns penny its this way than to drivers trade in un profitable patriotism.—Morning Herald, ''l “ hitter rrOM a naval officer, who signs b li n" 11 "C. N. N.:' m subject of great national import/thee, viz. th 4nittotil viola ofa legalized code of regohstitios for the discipline of British seamen engaged in the triercitent.servieo of their counq. Some of the police reports have exhibited within these few day*, ss picture of the relittiOliff teed csfners, lilt we ere told, subtristing between the officers of East India Company's ships tad their settee*, which it wee impossible to look et without diaglifit at the system, or without iwrious alto rn forits cop sequences to the welftre. It appease than on o o d tlitue Vtilifikbit rotrobvit.ibips i and its service of such towering pretensions as that of the Honourable Company, a habit of foul language has been indulged iu , by the officers towards the sailors, wholly incompatible with that grave seltrespeet which ought to tharacterize the demeanour of per sons having authority over 'Others, and inevitably tending to produce on the minds of their inferiors a bitterness or a prostration of spirit alike unfavour able to the discharge of a seaman's duties, The Inglis, as may be collected from the evidence offered before the Magistrate, was, on her voyage home, a scene of the most deplorable insubordination, and, as usually—we do not say invariably—happens, the violence of the exasperated seamen may be treced to that which they had long experienced from the Ceptain of the vessel and his mates. It is not a fit practice--it is not a practice which would be tolerated on board a British man of war, or in deed on boftrd a merchantmen of any nation but the . English, to abuse men 'employed in laborious offices as if they were creatures devoid of feeling, and when they show a natural and human sense of the wanton indignities with which they ,ere outragekto tip them up and flog them like wild hews,- Why, if English seamen had even the benefit 'of the ect of that generous-minded states man (Ones; himself -.a sailor) the late Lord Erskine, the act against " cruelty to animals," no skipper durst use them with a degree of harshness like that represented by the witnesses on behalf of the crew to have formed their ordinary treatment at the hands of the Captain of the Inglis, and one or more of his officers. On the other side of the question, we are not insensible to the difficulties imposed upon the.' captain of a Company's ship, so fee as regards the seamen. With all their reputed wealth, :and real power, the India Company are the shabbiest set of shipowners whose vessels traverse the ocean. Their ships are the worst manned, their size considered, and the casualties to which in long voyages and insalubrious climates they are exposed,—the worst that clear out from the ports of the United Kingdom. It is not that the numbers of their crews are scanty ; but that from the poor wages they offer,—the smell precautions taken by them as to inquiry into cha racter—the absence of all provision for their sailors and petty officers after age or accident shall have compelled them to retire, and the consequent bad quality of many of their seamen, as compared with those who are admitted into his Majesty's service, the crew of an Indiaman is often such as to alarm the officers for the safety of the ship,' and for the lives of all on beard her. It is not, there fore, us against the officers only that we should desire to see a set of regulations, with respect to discipline, established and enforced by legal sane. lions. At present there is none but what proceeds from the assumed necessity of each ease as it arises; when tits Captain , thwarted or insulted by his men, has recourse to violence for want of legitimate power. Teach the seaman his duties by legislative authority, mid the officer will soon learn to respect his rights, because his own rights will be placed beyond the pale of controversy. The situation of a ship, and of those by whom she is navigated, is so peculiar, and the effects of crime so prompt and dangerous, as to justify the application of more direct and specific remedies against wrong doing than such ns may be extracted from the ordinary provisions of the common law, We can imagine no reason why a code of instructions similar (mutatis mulandis) to those observed on board a King's ship, should not be applied to the mercantile marine of England, and officers and men made answerable for their complete execution. Humanity and the love of Justice will assuredly be spared by such a charitable innovation, the pain of many a police recital like those to which we have adverted above.—Times, TO THE EDITOR OF THE TIMES. Sta,—Having seen in your Journal of this day a letter signed " T. U.," iu which I recognise the style of a gen thunarhwell known in the maritime profession, and who for many years has been the steady advocate of the right* of seamen and the mercantile navy in general, I am happy to see he has touched upon a subject hitherto nearly disre garded--,usinely, the entire absence of discipline in the merchant service—a defect which is gradually debasing the British seaman, and is the source of continual quarrels, heart-burnings, and between him and those placed in authority over hint; of insolence, drunkenness, and negligence on one part, and of intemperate endeavours to preserve their authority on the other. It would occupy too touch of your space to prove (what I am well able to do) that the laws now in farce for the government of the mercantile navy are a dead letter; nor can I follow your correspondent in the question of the al leged supineness of the Corporation of the Trinity-house in these matters; but, from an intimate acquaintance with the' subject I have taken In band, I can safely affirm, that if the humble voices of the ship-owners and their servants are too weak to reach the ears of Government, its atten tion will, ere lung, be aroused moat fearfully, and corn plaints will reach it written in characters of blood. Let it, for a moment, consider the situation of a man nominally commanding (but destitute of legal power) & crew of own reckless of consequences, and aware of im punity---a man who, in his solitary condition on the wide oceans, has no appeal hot to brute force—in charge of the property of others, often to a large amount. Let it sup pose him braved to his face, and the weapons of death within his reach ! I say no more. I do not mean to advance that sailors are more evil•dis posed than other men ; it is well known that the vulgar of every class are prone to insult their superiors when ever the strong urns of power its relaxed, and the prospect of punishment distant. Yet I am no advocate for summary punishment, or for the power of corporal chastisement being placed in the hands of an individual ; but from the personal observation of 37 years, I am con vinced that it alone can ever check the wild career of that mature child, a British sailor. lam also convinced, that whenever it shall become known that the civil authorities are vested with such power, a very material change will be effected in their conduct. The chaace of impriSonment and fine is laughed at by men who have bean used to confinement from their cradles, and whose contempt of money and ignorance of it* value is proverbial. Daring the war, the fear of being turned over to a King's ship held them in a tolerable state of discipline, but since that restraint has been removed, they have progressed front bad to worse until the property of their employers is unsafe, the comfort of the ir Commanders destroyed, and their own lives and health placed in ktopardy ; painful and humiliating it is to witness the contrast between them and the orderly seamen of other nations. But the mischief does not end here ; the source of our national strength is poisoned. is it possible that men brought up in uncoraroulled dissipation can be brought at once to comply with the orderly habits of a veletel of war, but by the most powerful coercion ? Most clearly no ; and it is through the exercise of this tremendous, though necessary, power, that the youthful sailor conceives a dis gust to the King's service, whereas, bad he been trained to obedient habits by a mild and and acknowledged disci pline clearly defined, the change from one service to the Other would only be perceptible in the diminished quantum of labour, and the more regular attention to his comforts. But I ern unwilling to trespass further on your space anti patience, and shall rest for the present in the hope that, through your widely circulated Journal, these re mark* may meet the eye of someone possessing the power and irndination to apply a remedy against an evil which, however feebly potattayed, strikes ta the very root of our country's prosperity and safety. , I remain, Sir, your obedient servant, Oreenwieb, Sept. 18. C. N. N. The Report of the Dolce de Broglie and M. ()taxer, on the state of France, delivered on Mon day night, has produced a great sensation. There can be no question that the Charter demands mate rial alterations; but we confess ourselves tumble to see so much cause for alarm as our correspondent xi 0. P. Q," sees in the tipeeches of the French Ministers. The Ministers assume the existing itt. stitutions to be suitable to the wants of the country; but they do not thereby declare that these iostitti. dens may not be improved. They will, and must be improved ; for we do not believe that the Chambers conceive the suffrage, sufficiently exten sive. But the existence of France will not terminate,, this year or the next, Public opinion will compel the representatives to agree to such changes in the Eke t ion Laws as shah be found, after due deliberation, to he best salted to the wants of the nation. Already the Election Law is much better than it was under the clovommont. Ao an election at this time, with the choice of men, from thirty, would return it ' very different Chamber from the last. But if the present Chamber, when its deficiencies are supplied under the existing law, do not effect the necessary organic improvements, the new election will. We wish it to be borne in mind always, that there are no interests in France sufficiently powerful to dare to refuse any alteration demanded by public opinion. The present Ministers are said to be honest men. They may be timid; but they are not the creatures of any Oligarchy, to which they must be subservient as the condition of their political exist ence. They will administer the existing laws fairly. The Judges may not in all cases be what they ought to be ; but the Chambers may carry laws imposing material checks on existing Judges, and securing better appointments in future. In the mean time the Press will be secured by Jury trial uga'nst the arbitrary notions and corrupt inclinations of public funct ionari co.—Morning chronicle. The opening of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway has been clouded by a most unfortunate occurrence. The undertakiug itself has been as successful as the most sanguine of its pro jectors anticipated; but during one of the tempo rary stoppages, Mr. lluskisson, who was in the space between the carriage ways, on the approach of one of the cars, which had fallen behind, fell on endeavouring to lay hold of the car beside him, and the engine passed over his thigh. The consequence was a compound fracture, rendering amputation ne cessary. Unfortunately, from the previous state of his health, his life is considered to be in the greatest danger. Down to the time at which our reporter's communication was sent off, he was in a state which rendered it impossible for him to undergp the dreadful operation. The Duke of Wel lington seems to have been greatly affected by the accident, and endeavoured to have the business of the day postponed. This, however, after much deliberation, the Directors did not deem themselves authorised to agree to. his Grace, however, did not join the dinner party at Liverpool. According to our reporter, the speed of the cars was, while be observed the time, at the rate of 18 and 19 miles an hour; but he was assured by Mr. Stephenson that, when they were pushing on to Manchester after the interruption, the rate was 24 miles an hour, and at one time even 33! This is unquestionably one of the greatest triumphs of me- chanical science. It is the commencement of a new era in locomotion. We may expect the con struction of railways on all the roads where a dense population render the speculation profitable. Al ready the shares of this company are at a premium, which is the best proof of the general opinion as to the success of the speculation. Dis tant cities are now brought near to each other. The ranting call of the poet to annihilate space and time, may almost be said to be realised. Before a citizen of London could proceed in one of those lumbering coaches which yet disgrace the streets of this me tropolis, the strong hold of so many monopolies, to the west end of the . town, u Liverpool merchant will have finished his journey to Manchester. The power of man over the material world has been augmented within a few years in so extraordinary a manner, invention having succeeded rapidly to in vention, that there has been generated a disposition' to believe that the elements may he made available to man to a degree far beyond any thing of which we have experience. lied rail-roads along which carriages might proceed at the rate of thirty-three miles an hour been hinted at to Swift, he would certainly have deemed the speculation adapted for Lap u ta.—Morning Chronicle. FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE. FRENCII PAPERS. CHAMBER OF DEPUTIES, SEPT. IS. The President took the Chair at a quarter past four o'clock. M. Curtin Gridaine, Reporter of the Bureau to Which the election o f th e Duke de Reiman, for the Haute Seine was referred, informed the Chamber that the Duke had not produced his evidences of qualification, and, consequently, moved that he should be considered as having vacated his seat.— Referred to the Minister of the Interior. M. Benjamin Constant addressed the Chamber as follows, on his motion for abolishing the brevets, or licences, of printers and booksellers :—To depict to you, Gentlemen, the salutary influence of the Press would be useless. The Press, for sixteen years, has been our only safeguard against a Government op pressive whenever it was in its power to be so, and hypocritical when it co u ld not be oppressive. When in the Chamber, which was the offspring of forced elections, an almost imperceptible minority struggled courageously for liberty, the Press, left free by the inconsistent fatuity of a presumptuous Ministry, was our only protection. From the Bth of August, the Press sustained alone a mortal combat against a power armed with fraud, and rose in strength as the danger increased. The Press led the people into the field of battle—they boldly followed, and we came to the support of the people; and we all, being thus united, achieved a miraculous triumph, and over threw tyranny. The Press is the only means of communication between messes of men, as words are the means of conveying ideas between indivi, duals. Such advantages overbalance all the inconve niences. I feel that these inconveniences must be re medied by good laws, but nevertheless the freedom of the Press should be extended. Let me now ask ! what is the legal condition of the Press in France? Is it this :—No one can be a bookseller, no one can be a printer, without having obtained a licence, which was revocable at will, I say revocable at will; because, by the terms of the law of 1811, the Go vernment is authorised to withdraw his licence from city printer who had become subject to a judgment. I um the representative here of those who have taken up the business of printer and of bookseller, end am also the organ of the workmen, who from the same occupation gain a subsistence for them selves and their families. The first of these two classes maintain that, were the Press free, it would become much more active, and find markets whi c h the monopoly neglects or :lisdains; the second class conceive that a greater number of printers would in sure an increased quantity of employment for their industry ; and, in order that you may be better able to judge of the arguments of the latter body, I will lay them before you in full. They say the printers, who are the possessors of this monopoly, formerly found employment for all the workmen who engaged in this occupation, because none but themselvea had the right of employing them, but lately important discoveries have been made, and the mechanical press has been invented and brought into use; from hence, under the system of the monopoly, fewer workmen have been necessary, and thus many are e se left destitute. I am not disp ose d to ra i se an Outcry against the invention a n d use of maclitvesiege. A , d foreach newly-invented machi ne is e a gain i for ie it t h us industry,been proved and an advantage to the diff us i on of knowledge. gain for industry, I sa y, because that, since the discovery of the art of printing, there have been more workmen employed as prin ters than there were copyists before • and since the discovery of the weaving t h n e o e r , weavers advantagen e rs than ea machine sayi i ato o r r e i t have r t b m e h w e a n s . of ledge. Eech machine creates a greater degree of leisure for mankind, and each leisure hour affords so much time for reflection and improvement. I will not, however, enlarge upon this question; h it _e longs to theory, and partakes of the idea of per fectibility,---a system 60 widely &necked by de claimers, yet so clearly demonstrated by recent facts, —for permit me to ask you, Gentlemen, if you would ever have expected to have found so much ratio nality in the mass of the people, so m uc h love of order and such facility of comprehending, even in the moments of their highest exasperation, the rea sonings addu ce d t o ca l m t h em, and save them from acting against the object th e y h a d i n view, and lend them to respect that which a moment of excitement had b ro u g h t them together to destroy ? I loudly proclaim that we have lived for upwards of aplomb, and we still live, under )i theru i l 7 eo n f e t e l . te rs li t i s i o t, n o at e i n d tl. in telligencee of the people men, everything depends upon our placing by the side of these discoveries, which simplify the mode of production, and thereby increase production, that liberty which is in all things the vivifying principle, and without which the most useful things become pernicious. By the side, then, of the mechanical press, give to every man who may wish to exercise the business of a printer the power of doing so; then will the workmen easily find numerous resources, and will no longer see in these valuable discoveries, rendered mischievous only by monopoly, a cause of their being in want of work. I have sought for ob jections that may be urged against me, and only find four. The danger to public order will be urged. Every Government ought to maintain the conditions to which it owes its existence. The fallen dynasty, which wished to rend that which it had granted, and which proceeded by deception to treachery and massacre, needed to stifle the Press; but the citizen dynasty we have placed on the throne requires that every species of liberty shall be spread abroad, and that which was the ruin of the one is the security of the other. You will be told, perhaps, also, that individuals, by launching into the career you will thus open to them with insufficient means, will run on to their ruin. Governments are not the guardians of individuals. Men become enlightened by the errors they commit. The third object merits a fuller examination. No doubt those who have purchased licences upon the guarantee of public V faith have a right to be protected from loss. This is the sad effect of false measures. When a Government enters upon a wrongroad,it draws in individuals who, not being themselves culpable, have a right to corn ' pensation ; but this is a matter of detail which I do not feel myself willing to enter upon in bringing . vforward a proposition, and which I leave to more venlightened men. They will` propose amendments or additional articles, of which you, in your wisdom, %sill form a just judgment. Lastly, I foresee claims will be made for guarantees of the morality or intel. ligence of those for whom I demand that liberty which I feel ought to be granted to them. This objection bears a strong analogy to the first. I behold with regret, in that which is called a gua rantee, something which resembles an impediment. Neverthess, a good is only created by degrees; and as gradual progression is good, is at once both solid and encouraging, and as impatience is the bane of all things, I do not intend to resist what in this re spect may be proposed, and may be deemed indis pensable. I am not so jealous of time ; and, pro vided we advance but one step in a good road, I shall be happy in the reflection that I have led the way. M. de Tracy approved of the proposition being taken into consideration. If it were otherwise the departmental Press would cease to exist. The late Government licensed printers in the departments in the proportion of one to five thousand souls. Hence there were continually law-suits brought by journal ists against printers, to compel them to print their journals. These suits did not always terminate on the side of liberty. The proposition was ordered to be taken into consideration. Messrs. Petou and Daumont brought up in sue cession reports from the Petition Committee, but the petitions represented no point of general jute rest.—Adjourned to Wednesday. The following Order of the Day, dated Sep tember the 13th has been issued by the Commander n-Chief of the National Guards : " The General Commanding-in• Chief conceived that he could not render a better homage to the sentiments of the King towards the National Guards than by putting on the order of the day the letter with which he was honoured after the review by the Citizen Monarch. The same feelings make him also eager to communicate to his brethren in arms, not only the proceedings, but the words, of the young and patriotic heir to the National Throne; their commentary will be found in the hearts of all the National Guards, not only of the capital, but throughout France. (Signed) " LAFAYETTE." " You will not be surprised, my dear General, that I should feel a desire of becoming one of that glorious National Otsard which you have commanded at two of the greatest epochs of our modern his tory, and whose heroism you have each time so nobly directed. It is the duty of every good citizen; and I, more than any other, am bound to fulf►l it. I desire to be inscribed as a cannoneer in the artillery of the National Guard, because I shall be able fre quently to perform the duties of that station with out failing in my other duties. I embrace with eagerness, my dear General, this opportunity of re newing the assurances of the sentiments I partake in common with that citizen militia to which 1 shall henceforth be proud to belong.—Your affectionate " FERDINAND PHILIPPE D'ORLEANS." DUTCH PAPERS. STATES-GENERAL. sEerma ov sxrrxstura 13 (CONTINUED.) HAGUE, SErr. 15.—His Majesty and the Prince of Orange having retired after the conclusion of the Speech (which we gave yesterday), the Prince de Gavre, who is appointed President of the First Chamber for the present extraordinary meeting, closed the Sitting of the two Chambers united. He then (in the French language) requested the Members of the Second Chamber to remain assem bled, in order to hear a communication from the Government. SECOND CHAMBER or Tog STATES-GENERAL. M. CORNER Hooky, who was President during the last Session, took his seat in the President's chair. He observed that, in order to expedite busi ness, they might attend to some preliminary mat ters, while waiting for the communication from the Government. M. liviEFELD made some observations, to the effect that the gentleman who had presided in the sitting of the States-General bed addressed some words, in a language which he would not under stand in that place, to the Members of the Second Chamber, which he supposed were meant to sum mon the Chamber together, but that if this were a message from the King, it ought to be communi, eated either in writing or by a commission; but nei thseirelmtatvAiyrig which heart he would not remain in an A was not legally summoned, either to listen or to take part in the decisions, and should go home. Some new Members having been admitted and taken their seats, the President read the following Royal Message : " High and mighty Lords,--According to the communication made by us, on the opening of your present I?,xtraordinary Session, to your Assembly, and earlier, by our Proclamation of the bat instant, to all the Netherlanders, we desire that your High Mightinesses may immediately take into your serious consideration— " 1. Whether has experience indicated the neces sity of reviving our national institutions. "2. Whether, in that case, the relations esta blished by treaties, and by the fundamental law be tween the two great diVisions of the kingdom, for the promotion of. their common interest, require to be changed either in their form or in- their nature. It will be itgreable to us to receive, as speedily as the nature of the ease admits, the free and sin cere communication of the sentiments of the repre sentatives of the people of the Netherlands on these important questions, in order to d e t erm i ne i n t h e sequel,m concurrence with yo ur Hi g h Mi ght i nesses, those we o m r b e e c necessary m in order to carry their opinion i nto effect. r' And herewith end your Isigh Mightinesses to the Divine protection. " 4 Hague, Sept. 13, 1830," Th. Chamber then adjourned till to-morrow at eleven o'clock. SITTINOS OF TUESDAY, SEPT. 14. The Chamber, first of all, proceeded to choose three candidates, to be proposed to the King, for him to select a President. The three candidates chosen were M. Van Toulon, M. G. G. Clifford, and M. Corset Huoft ; after which the Chamber !adjourned till two o'clock, to receive the King's answer : wilt) chose M. Van Toulon as President, during the present Extraardinary Session. The new President, having taken his seat, made a short speich in both languages, which the Cham ber ordered to be printed. The Chamber then ballotted for the seven Sec tions, and their Presidents and Vice-Presidents, after which it adjourned. THE HAGUE, SEPT. 14,—His Royal Highness Prince Frederick arrived here this morning at ten o'clock, from his head-quarters at Antwerp, and was welcomed by the citizens with the liveliest ac clamations. This evening the marriage of Prince Albert of Prussia and Princess Marianne will be solemnized in the manner announced in the programme. The whole town manifests its pleasure and gratification, and preparations are every where making for a gene ral illumination. Amsterdam, Sept. 14, Actual Debt, 21- per Cent sli to 53 Deferred Debt 1 to 1 Amort. Syndic 4i per Cent B7 to 89 Ditto Si per Cent 72i to 75 Exchange on London l2 07 5-10 Two Months l2 02 5-10 The Journals of St. Petersburgh of the 30th and 31st of August, and September 10, make no men tion of the French Ambassador, General Athalin, nor do they contain any allusion to the relations between Russia and France. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. MANSION-HOUSE. An old woman, who has several-other names be sides that of Martha Smith, was brought before the LORD MAYOR, charged with having robbed a iea man, somewhat advanced in years, of 15/., which be had that day received at the India-house. The seaman told the story of the robbery in a very characteristic manner. When he got his wages he went along Leadenhall-street, and an old lady twitched him by the jacket, and said she wanted to have a word with him; but he saw she was ould, and he told her he had a wife at home waiting for him, and mayhap the ould lady might have some thing to say to her. " Oh, " said she, " you may have a wife at home, and she may be a beauty, but my daughter is the most heedful girl in all Bevis Marks; she is only 16 years old, and she wants to see you." This description, the seamen said, raised his curiosity, because he wanted to see whether the young lady was as handsome as kis wife, and so away he went, arm-in -arm, with Mrs. Smith; but, before they visited Bevis Marks, they just stepped into a public-house, and tasted the various cordials with which it abounded, so that when they reached the lodgings of Mrs. Smith, the tar had forgotten every thing about the daughter. When he awoke he found himself alone, lying on the floor, and that his hat, which contained all his treasure, was gone. He had wrapped up his three Si. notes in a news paper, and put them in his hat, and he had a dis tant recollection that the old lady asked him what news he had for her? and that be took the news paper out of his hat, and told her she would find all the news she wanted there.—(Laughter.) The LORD MAYOR said that, tipsy as the sailor was, he was right in that opinion. She couldn't have received more agreeable intelligence. The sailor said he took care to remove the notes from the newspaper, and to put them, by themselves into his hat, which he put on his head and kept on as a night-cap, for the greater security. The LORD Mayon—And is it true that you have a wife ? The sailor--Ay, sure, and a good un. What did I want of this old creetur ? she couldn't be answerable to me. The LORD MAYOR—And why didn't you take your wife with you when you went to receive your money ? The sailor—Why, you see, we live in a house that has no lock to it, and so I thought it was better for she to stay at home, because we were to buy things to keep there, when I was to get my money. The LORD MAYOR—WeII, you are old enough at all events to know how to take care of your self; but I see you are just as bad as a boy who was robbed the other day of 1.51., by a woman of a similar character. Pray, what will your wife say to this ? The sailor—Ay, please your Wor ship, there's the wo rst o f i t; she knows all about it, and she's over there waiting till you are done blowing me up, to blow me up ten times more.— (Laughter.) It appeared that the moment the sailor found that lie was alone, and that his money was gone, he made a most tremendous noise; and that one of the officers of the ward, who was passing by Bevis markssunChristians cansaid, at the time, ran up to the room, and found him raving about his wife and his old sweetheart. The prisoner of course denied all knowledge of the robbery. She had, she said, consented to take the sailor home with her at his earnest request; and, as she fell asleep as well as lie, she did not know what happened while she was in that state. But she found upon waking that she had lost her bonnet. There however happened to be no lock to her room-door any more than there was to his. The Lone MAYOR ordered the prisoner to be brought up for another examination, and handed over the sailor to the castigation of his wife. BOW-STREET. On Wednesday afternoon a Jew clothes-salesman, named Goodman, came before Mr. MINSTIOLL, at this office, said be had a very serious complaint to make against Mr. Chubb, II bookseller and printer, and a neighbour of his. Mr. Mussitutx—Well, Sir, what is your com plaint ? Goodman—Vy, your Vorship, it is as dis here. I keeps a clothes-shop in Holywell-street, and Mr. Chubb he keeps a book-shop hopposight, and he is a man vat doesn't like de Jews , and so lie does all lie can to spoil our trade. Ile shows ' all sorts of hooks and picters in his vinders, and by dat means he gets a crowd about his own front, and nobody vont buy nothing at my shop, Mr. Mnistrut.t.—Well, if his shop is made more attractive than your's, I cannot help it. Goodman-0, but dat is not all, your Vomhip ; he pats great big papers up abusing de Jews , vereof lie hinders us from selling our goods. Here's a speciment, your Vorship—only listen now for a moment while I reads it. The applicant then read a placard, of which the following is a copy, amidst great laughter from the spectators : " Who is it that insults and obstructs every person that passes ?—The Jews. " Who is it that makes old clothes look like new? —The Jews, " Who is it that asks a pound for an article and takes five shillings P---The Jews. " Who is it that instead of keeping dogs keep barkers Wh ? o — ti rj r ‘ e lle th j e e% m vs o . st impudent people under the ?—The Jews. " Who is it that never lays out his money with it ?--.4he Jews. ig he nor tl a i n a t g 7 rTed Th w e itt el t v h s flast paragraph, for he 'did not believe the Jews were generally an ignorant people. Goodman—But isn't die shameful, your Vorship ? Nobody vont lay out deir money vid us, becoss of dis willanotis bill. I han't sold a garment for die week, I declare. Mr. Mtissitom—Does he collect a crowd about his shop by these means ? Goodman-0 tremen dous, your Vorship—two or tree hundred people all at once I see dere sometimes. Mr. Mtisstim—Not so fast, my friend, I should think three hundred persons more then ell Hely well-street would hold. Ones he exhibit any im moral or improper books or prints in his windows ? Goodman-0, terrible, terrible, your Vorship— quite shocking. Mr. MiNsum.—Well, if that be the case, you may indict him ; but I cannot assist you here at present. If lie creates a riot, or assaults you, apply to the police, and you will be protected; but I dare say die other side would have a great deal to say. Goodman then departed, but in the course of the afternoon came again in a great taking, and com- pleined that Mr. Chubb bad threatened to iota him and his wife. Mr. Mtsrsauti sent a message to Mr. Chubb le attend here in the evening, and at the evening sit.. tang all Holywell-street, Jews and Gentile', were et the office. Goodman re-stated his complaint, and in additim said Mr. Chubb had abused and threatened to beet him and his wife. In proof of this he called Mob* ther, a young lad, who swore that such was the facts Mr. Chubb, in answer to the charge, declared that what he had done he had been compelled to do in his own defence. The fact was, that no person could come into Holywell-street either to do bush ness or as passengers, without being insulted, end often assaulted, by some of the Jew salesmen, who appeared determined to prevent any bu t those et their own persuasion from carrying on trade there at all. He denied that any thing like a crowd ever ar sembled round his window, but he knew that u persons happened to stop to look at hie boob. or came direct to his shop, they were insulted hi the clothesmen, and it had come to such a pitch, till must either shut up his shop, or stop there sag al ruined. . 11 Mr. MINsHULL—But he says you e—t.loooo publications. Mr. Chubb denied that indignation, and defied any one to say,- Irog see „*6l that any but strict moral works were t rar , his shop. With respect to the threat All a him, he did not make use of it until Mr. " ;- brother bad pelted his (Mr. Chubb's) wit/AVW" which he did that very afternoon. I ) Mr. Elliott, a printer and wineemerebtet * street, corroborated Mr. Clatibb's stab fn°oll`„„e. said, it was impossible to carry oe Dow 4ll . J .' t t H ha e t w t a h s ere was the annoyance to width pero.lls irtrbilwq:2 by being obstructed and oftentimes literally dragged into the shops of clothes deface, ata. bound wer e t o je s w ay s , ihnot‘hveevsetrer, street what noisy discussion, said it and wished to put an end to the practice cum Pal Mr. MlNsuum, after a very lesthened whooni mr:enrot!dof anti ;Dips the Jews themselves created a great nuissnce .1! dt obstruction, and it was not to be wondered 14 , ill blood was excited on the other side. no sp iNi ree under the circumstances, take Mr. Chubb ', Dap under cognizance to keep the peace ; and Goodmel br must give bail for the assault upon Mrs. Ch ° throwing mud at her. and Bail was given, and the parties left the ,g the Jews loudly expressing their diesati lfict4ll - the Magistrate's decision. was quite cues r I greatitl nvh iet T gi Cluwesonsoti number amholeni noted bnshetgera rd3o d orw r b L o a ele A g ‘egg, n w r i f td m r a t p h bpy t:h am f e reesso ni e d i a : l to je l nee s ot i l l oo k i r AIBETH-STRZET. _ wo o o f and coaches), name nneiz ingt d utoiicen M nose.nsa : s • s e i i:g . F, a e r . ih nl y en a?d il L e": t bi L le9llr . e,,,llm ii terday charged before Messrs. WYATT lad 1 141 ',' 0 and Co., of Throgmorton-street, to the waggon, to be conveyed to Messrs. Osb orn and C0..0 of Colchester. On the way thither the woge," es robbed of the whole of the silk. The etht which tended to implicate the prisoners in tilelit e co: 111 / 1 - t• P o ° 1 1 ; action was that of two Bnw-street pato l f T O Gutteridge and Weston, who, upon bearingtAir robbery, displayed the greatest activity in.„1116 vouring to discover the perpetrators of it. . Tr ot i i . having seen a chaise, with two very suet looking persons in ir, go through Romford, idor;i his companion Gutteridge of the cireumstOneet is. told him to stop the chaise and examine whs, t h i e j in it. Soon after Gutteridge saw a chat' " go answered its description, and immediately gdroo, tics to Weston, and they both went i n lis ll4 Ifq and, by taking a short cut, they were ensbledle Isi the chaise near Stratford marshes. The chsiO bo y driven by the two prisoners, and inside o f , l t d 6 found a great quantity of silk. They 010,7 skips number of implements necessary for the l'' open the boots of coaches. fti . °l ured The silk was produced, and a g_enttOn tun dolfi, Edsell, belonging to the fi rm of Meorls:. ll tluit c p o ro n v si e g d ne t d ha t t o s i lkt tl e ess rs. w O a s s bo o r f n sitively swear to its identity. Its value No; / 3 280 guineas.—The prisoners were committe(!„.„„d Michael 211bCarlky, the man who steeds r o w ; th h e ut eem he • with the wilful murder of his wife, and YIN W bist , in mended until yesterday, was brought !VI JO consequence of the Coroner n o t having i 011,1; warrant, was remanded until th e Coroner dig SECOND EDITIO ' N.. SUN OFFICE, Seca o'Clog ••••••••••••0• 010,.... 1 , 0 IIIE LONDON GAZB OF THIS EVENING• DECLARATION OF INSOLVENCY. Thomas Chambrolain, Salisbury, victualler. BANKRUPTS. a V itit t .g li" James Smallbone, Titchborn4treet, Ihr l ile a wt. -,; dealer, to surrender Sept. 21, at three. 5 4 1 11 „, 1 ', / , ore at two, at the Court of Commissioners. 14°— Marylebone-stre See 4 ' Oct. 1 t l .l e , m a ns nd ß 2 r 9 yaet. 29, a t e l l i e in re e n in , ga-tlane, in C w our e- t k o hoo k. Jones, Princes-street, Bank. o b fr o co ke o rr or , oo ,o o Phil —i i toot sellierrh,°Smeaa pt. G 2 o l r , to a n t , jtuwno.: Oct. Gros v b c , n a o t r- t r ai o e T od ~, 2 9 g 0, at , - 01 _,, r. at the Court of Commissioners. Druce O a --lis liter-square. b .„. Iron' John Bullock, Featherstone-street, St. 1311;0114. monger, Sept. 21,28, at ten, and Oct. 29; s t ,. / L fee' Cou o t (h) t ‘n.t n . f ß2 C u9 o r,t u o i l n ai :i t s Ne i l i oe o tv n tt e ,inn r , s. ghaamt S w, h s a ilsot r o p .n e ne :l .:n nd iasofo F t i ac e i l :: se i t3;. g o b stbs , : sto# : ' V ud i j- Ilett and Larken, Essex-street, Strand ; " 34 haniTh'emas Elliott the younger, Goswell• street " A . 144 00 414:1 : Sept. tool- ma k er , S ept . 21, at WO, Out. f'' 3 " , 01. 22, at two, at the Co ur t o f Commissioners. 480 Broad -str e et. Joseph _, a gere pt. 29, 80, and Oct. 29, at two, at the CO ore r " n " , Bristol. Pool, Greenfield, and Cisi nisn. Inn-square; Cornish and Son, Bristol. tiro John Clark, Keynsham, Somersetshi re ' blisk lrisoli l ' i°n Sept. 29, SO, and Oct. 29, at.eleveni ti t . , the - - Aoro. Inn, Bristol. Ivirney, Harpur-street; it eu ti ; °P clon Aill i ) Sept. Clemen t Worts, 'Wapping High-street, .b.r c ot Thomas, Abercarne, Monraouthsbirsioriol, S 21, 28, at ten, and Oct. 29, at nine, at .h ere ~ Commissioners. Clab o n a nd Bush, Mar k.iint. 5ilW James Lloyd, White Horse, Peckham 14 8 , 1 ,00 victualler, Sept. 24, and Oct. 1, at twelve, 2'oolo at the Court of Commissioners. Altlrl o Cill ' Or °' Royal Exchange. ~ Ort.e. Jeremiah Taylor, jun. , Halifax) d e3 " -1 Lonrd and 29, at five, at the Bridge Inn, Bolt us t - ; P I . - Adlington, Gregory, and Faulkner, B6ifor d " .. man, Bolton. _____ PRICE OF SUGAR.. it ,,garo "";1 ir n . u 2 i 7 ' d h a e . a l v o from e a d ti g . le Returns made in the week eisu.":ol4'ireictOnt's.:o:lll ,g,ef paid or payableippetrrhiecereoewot.fa,Beoarnoewluneivoerio3flutil7evigtdoui;:the do the uiporta Great Britain. street, Grosvenor-place, or the ----.......--...""rloaTtioliii.zsrifoth, of ~,,,f no, ith inst. birs. CapOOtanninthpereslttohtt,incst..matofi:arateen, Surrert e Ai t h WV .r. On the 16th inst. atSlAt.RFßalnEcrpas., Stour J 1 are* t 5 / . 0 00 de Toledo, of the Colinnbian Leggii" in ilj er i r s e q 0. phis, only daughter of the late 11. F. Harrison/ '' Ely-place. A ntor e t C. On the 16th inst. at St. Genre% 114000,,,r _,, l i n e, or Canceller, Esq., of Upper Gower-street, to vr io ", 10' coed daughter of F. R. Paislow, Esq. Estou'r grave-square. St e m n On the 16th inst. at St. Pancras B. Ste Y ", - „Ate r of Gray's-inn-place, to i'rances, th'e second tofri. 00 the i tlaltendflia. Orme , Company, of Muhl', "l icieawr t° dis Al., .40' r DIED. gt kh ',.. On the 15th inst. at Alderaerplicer ,---ab, fe.- Guildford, J. Writ, Esq., for many yes° °` 1 meat, Finsbury. PON/1W ♦AND iIEO-11117-10-a-8-5-6/ TNT SUN ovrics, 87a,k014