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;tH I ~, / : r ~, ~• t / I AVE. AT a PUBLIC MEETIN o e MEN 4.11. of RYE, held at the Red Lion Inn, on Monday the ROth day of December, 1830, for the purpose of expreavine their sentiments on the late decision of a Committee of House of Commons upon an Appeal Petition front - the lev. GEORGE AUGUSTUS LAMB, DD. Rector of *e Parishes of Playden and Hen in Stint% and *ritilde- Srd in Kent, against a derision of a previous ComMittee, /lade on the 15th day of May last, which decision restored to the inhabitants of the town their ancient rights and privileges ; • . . ' . . . . . _ , -40 • •• i ..-, -,,,).). , f: • .NS ' 4. • 11l \_ .;•4 'TF. , ) , .* . h . ', , i , . , :c',. . A t !' -..- • - -,:`...„' i,, ,i-7- , !-.' , „„ 1- :7 47 x, . ~,,... - ' c. ; %.1.4,r„ . .1.,7..,,- 0 1,1,9, ';ir , ''' \ ..X L 'l , :t, T.:_•;71:14•,'y , ~:':, ..z, 4 4 ' ; ,I, ' :.: ~.,,,,,,' __ I. oo‘ ' l. r t- • .;.''',',.',. ,-;:* ''', . -?r•liziir.._ ). • : N.i1..•,,,er. ;',,,,i i ,, , , :.,, '. ''', q Attlf.. ~ .( , ~, . ..4,- ~,,, •,..; .. ~ . < t '''l * : ~..' '.. ',I ~4 t! • '. 4 • .. ; ;11.` qt t ' 1 " - •-•‘ — ' ‘ . '" : l. 4, : 4, ..... , ... 4 ....,,,..4 4 ,'' ' j. '7.72 ..s` 111,,'41, , i t ...' ,• . , ..... ,••". i ' • .. 1 , AWN*. " ' iPiiry .Mk bi.,.15 . rt inSif. , 4 , L'i , ..;l! tilikl , - oit T 1 140 --...,..... -• It Val unanimously resolved, Is►. That this Meeting has heard with the deepest in tfignition and astonishment the decision come to by the Committee on the above Appeal. Rd. That it is the firm opinion of this Meeting that such rkeisioi is an outrage on the feelings of the people of this country ; and more so as the members who sat on the fintrer Committee were in point of experience, reputation, and talent, far superior to those who have taken upon themselves to reverse that decision. • No. 11,947. LONDON, MONDAY EVENING, DECEMBER 27, 183, PRICE 71): PUBLIC MEETING IN FAVOUR OF'PAR LIAMENTAitY 1U FORM. (Abridged from thy Neveasait Chronicle.) On Tuesday last, pursuant to a t ti.nwal6 :Ott- Mayor, a public meeting of the inhabitants of this town was held in the Guildhall, t•) consider' the pro: :ptiety of petitionin the two Houses of 'Parliament for a Reform of the Commons' House of Parliament. From some preparatory meetings which had been held, and the extreme importance now attached to the measure, a high degree of interest was excited; :Ind soon after eleven o'clock the inhabitants began to assemble in great numbers, and' shortly after twelve the hall was crowded to excess. Among the gentlemen present we observed James Loch, Esq., T. E. Headlam, M.D , C. W. Big g ,, OA Esq., Charles Attwood, Esq., Thoma , Fenwick, Esq., A. Easter . bY, '4'li. Wright, J. Wilkinson, Esq., Ahhirmen Bell;Foster, 'Wright,. Surtees, and Shadforth, John liodga9n, Esq., M.P., the non. H. T. Lid All, 4e,,t40r At twelve o'clock ARcIIIBALD REED, Reti„, Mayer, took the chair, and was greeted with conqideruble applause. The requisition having beettread by the Town Clerk, • Sd: That this Meeting views with alarm the conse quences which are to be apprehended from this proceeding, tt heinr in° fact a legalization of the sale of the rights and privileges of the inhabitants of this town. 4th. That the just indignation of the Alen of Rye is Loused against George Augustus Lamb, and the three in dividuals, Daniel Gill, Thomas Harrison, and John Had dock Ladner, who have more particularly assisted in the tilbjugation of their fellow townsmen and the subverting of their rights by signing the Appeal Petition, and their Dames are here inseituliiwortler that they may be banded down to the execration of . ,tha latest posterity. _ _ EDGEWORTH'S PARENT'S ASSISTANT, . . bth. That as the ,blayor, at thOtte Election of Barons to serve in Parliament, made hie return of the Barons, ,elected contrary. to the decision of the . 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That although . we have been robbed of our rights, Re will perseveringly continue to demand them. We will do all in our power to strengthen the hands of his najesty's Ministate, in order .that they may redeem their pledge of efficient Parliamentary Reform, and thus save the cpuntry. from the calamities of Revulutioa and Civil War. • 7th. That Petiti.ms he immediately prepared for presen iation to tke King, and both Houvs of Parliament, pray ing for a redress of grievances. . That the Men of Rye do wear a Ribbon of blue and Owlet, on their left breast, until the .measure of Reform trr which the whole Country, and the Men of Rye cape 'billy, are now confidently looking for redress, shall be carried. • EARLY• LESSONS, .4 vols. 11s, ROSAMOND, a Sequel to Early Lessons, 2 vols. 53. FRANK, a Sequel to Frank in Early Lessons, 3 vole, 9s. half-bound. HARRY and LUCY concluded, being the last part of Early Lessons, 4 vole. 12m0., 17s. half. bound. MORAL TALES, 2 vols. foolscap, lON. boards. 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These Drops, given agreeably to the direction in the several and distinct cases, not a single instance has ever some to the knowledge of Dr. Norris, in which they have failed to Cure. Purchasers are requested to observe that the genuine preparation of Norris's Drops, will have . engraved on the Stamp, " Thome 1 1 ;44 1 f l o t t emer Ai i in-e." • Norris Maar& has eats islt Paul's Church yard ;:11Ir. Sanger, Oiford-stteet, opposite Bond-street, and Mr. Stradling, at the entrance to the Boyal'Exchange, Corishill; for the sale of the above Medicine. nice 21. Bd. II s., and in Family Bottles 225. each. RETIREMENT OF SIR ANTHONY HART, (From a Correspondent of the Morning Herald.) DUBLIN, WEDNESDAY. It being generally understood that the Lord Chancellor would take his leave of the Bar this day, the Court of Chancery became extremely crowded at an early hour, and numbers were disappointed in procuring places. About one o'clock the Right lion. William Saurin rose to present an address from the Bar to his Lord ship, on his retirement from office. From the situa tion in which I was placed, joined to the low 'tone in which the Learned Gentleman spoke, I could only catch a few sentences of his address. Ile stated that he was de pitted by the Bar of Ireland to express to his Lordship the high feeling of admiration which they entertained for his Lord.hip's character as a ;nitrate gentleman, his pro found learning as a lawyer, And his calm and dignified impartiality as a Judge, and their deep sorrow and regret at his Lordship's retirement from the high office of Lord Chancellor. " it may not be improper to add," continued Mr. Saurin, in conclusion, and in a voice scarcely art dible, " that with your Lordship'. retirement from this Court terminates my career at the Bar." The Lord Chancellor replied in rather a subdued voice, and appeared to be greatly ;Acted. lie declared that, in all his many vicissitudes, he had never experienced so strong a feeling of regret as that by which he was then in fluenced. It was not, he said, the loss of dignity—of rank.—for which he grieved—neither was it the loss of the emoluments of office—but it vas the delightful so ciety of the gentlemen of the Irish Bar, from which he parted with great %egret ; and he begged to assure Mr. Sandra and the Bar that he should ever remember them with the most Affectionate regard. His,Lordship appeared much affected towards the termination of his answer. Another address was presented to him by Joshua Dunne, Esq., from the Solicitors of the, Court of Chancery, to which his Lordship returned a highly complimentary an swer. During the proceedings the utmost silence pre vailed in the Court; and I could perceive, even among the political opponents of Mr. S., a strong feeling of re spect for his high political attainments, and fir the uni form honesty and consistency of his political career. After being h 0 years at the Bar, during 20 of which he enjoyed high office, and possessed imtnense patronage, he retiree into the bosom of his amiable family, without a coronet or a pension, with the admiration of all good men, and the respect even of his enemies. I have heard at the Castle that Serjeant Pennefather has declined the office of Attorney-General, and that Ser. jeant Blackburne has accepted it. This I believe to be true. The vagabonds of the 'milieus intend positively to exhibit black banners to-morrow, on the occasion of the Marquis of Angleseee public entry. Mr. Lost' said it now became his duty, on be half of the gentlemen who signed the requisition just read, to stare to that great and respectable meeting the grounds upon which they had called them to gether, and the object they had in view. That ob ject was to obtain for this great country a thorough and efficient Reform in the Commons' House of Parliament—(Applause)—and that object he trusted would be pursued by all fair and proper means. lie had thought that no one could, at this time, have entertained an idea that Reform was not wanted ; yet there was one great and distinguished person, and perhaps others, who' had denied that it was ne cessary. The best answer to that had been the manner in which that denial had been received, the unanimous feeling of the country on the subject, and the effect which had resulted from the expres sion of that feeling.—(Applause.)—He must be a bold matt, indeed, who would at the present moment venture to defend the grievous expenses of elections for counties and large populous places, or the too notorious corruption which was exercised upon those occasione, and, above all, that abomination called, close boroughs, where Peers and other individuals, claimed as their private property the tights and liberties of the people of this great nation—(Ap plause)—property which, if used at all, could only: be used for base and sordid purposes, and which, if not sanctioned by custom, must have brought di-- grace anti contempt upon every person connected with them. They might be assured that their friends in power would have difficulties enough to contend with, for it could net be supposed the bp roughmongers would tamely give up what they con sidered to be their property, awl every effort the people could make, would be necessary to strengthen their friends against the difficulties they had before j them. Such, he believed, was the feeling of the present Administration ; and unless the people at large supported them, he was perfectly con fident they would fail in their endeavours. Ar gument had been ,tried ssith those borough mongers; but to argumentthey had nothing to answer. Shame had been tried; but nothing in the world would make them loose their hold of that ill-gotten property, but the spirit. ett_the...people, shewn throughout the country—and that alone, would enable an honest Administration to obtain the end it con t em pigtft e ..ats they,innintroir_such. an. Administiatton, who were inclined fo persevere in economy and retrenchment as far as it was in their power; and he hoped that power would be strengthened by petitions from the people from one end 'of the kingdom to the other.—(Applause.)— He trusted the country, and this part of it iR par ticular, would give to the illustrious person at the head of the Government—their countryman, .the first Minister of the Crown, and of the people also —anJ his colleagues, time to show what their in tentions were, and if they were satisfied with those intentions,-not to be too hasty in asking for what could riot be hastily performed. He was afraid they were all apt to expect too much from pithli s men, and to forget that they had their failings and foibles as well as themselves. But if they saw the Administration institute a rigid economy in the expenditure of the public money—if they saw them abolishing all useless places and pensions—if they saw them endeavouring to preserve peace with foreign nations, attending to the distress of the lower orders, and, by every means in their power maintaining the public peace, and restoring tranquillity in the country, arid, above all, if they saw them honestly striving to pro cure an efficient Parliamentary Reform, he was con- j fident they would riot withdraw their confidence from thlim, though they might perceive some trifling errors in minor points o f their conduct.—(A pplause.) —The Learned Gentleman then proposed the first resolution, which was seconded by Alderman Bell, and carried unanimously. Dr. IIIiADLAItt oberved that we had a representa tive form of Government; but he would ask in what the representation consisted ? It consisted of a House of Commons, the majority of whom was actually appointed by a few individuals, chiefly Members of the House of Lords, without any con troul of the people.--(Cheers.)--He need nut draw the attention of the meeting to the conduct of the persons who were invested with so dangerous a power, nor to the consequences of such a corrupt state of things. Our public expenditure was en hanced by it—the persons who directed our affairs, anti regulated' that expenditure, levying the taxes with one hand, and receiving the money in the other.—(Cheers.)—lt was in this mariner that a Minister of the Crown was always able to manage a Majority of the House of Commons. He had only, as in the late war, to support a wasteful expenditure of the public money, arid to dole it out in places and pensions to those who governed over that as sembly, to secure their support. It was thus we saw, in many instances, time out of mind, the places in the patronage of the Administration occu pied by branches of powerful families, who either possessed, or were willing to purchase, seats in Purliament. As an illustration of this, he remem bered when he resided in Scotland, where nice cal culations of interest were well understood—(A laugh)—there was much discussion on a subject of feudal entails; and they always strenuously con tended for the necessity of keeping the head of their clan rich and powerful, in order that ire might be the better enabled to influence the Minister to provide for his pennyless brothers, cousins, and other con nexions.—(Renewed laughter.)—Sa it was with the aristocracy of this country. They furnished the means to Governtnent, and, in return, the younger members of their families were quartered upon the public.—(Cheers.)—No weirder that under such a system our resources should fail, and that we should accumulate a debt of enormous magnitude. Sure . he was that we had bought our experience dearly ; arid we now suffered from the flagitious expenditure of the last fifty years. But the very pressure of that debt upon all property, and every species of enters prize in the country, had opened the eyes of many per sons who were wont to praise the perfection of our Constitution, and to stand up in defence of the wisdom of our ancestors. The late war which Mr. Losh had stigmatised as unjust i n i ts or i g in, and ruinous in its consequences, was c ommence d after the first Revolution in France, for no other pur pose than to check the opinions with respect to Re • - It is said that the Irish Chief Baron, having now got his Peerage, positively declines to retire from the Bench, until he is paid a sum of 16,0001., the amount of fees funded during the suit between him and the Crown, as to the right of appointment to the Clerkship of the Pleas.—Dublin Mail. SIR E. LEES, AND TILE IttISII POST OFFICE.-It affords us sincere pleasure to learn that the above valuable and efficient servant is at length placed at the head of the Irish Post-office ;an appointment which will be hailed with the greatest satisfaction by the country in general, and snore particularly so by the mercantile part of the community, who have already derived much benefit by the new regulations adopttAl by the Irish Secre tary. It therefore now devolves upon Sir EDWARD to miry into execution those plans of Reform which lie has for some time past been proposiog. To effect this purpose, Sir Eow.ean is at present in active correspondence with Mr. SPRING RICE on the subject ; and we understand the Treasury is most anxious to carry his plan of Reform into immediate execution, by which means a saving of 5001. annually will be effected to th,s public, independent of the lbool. a year salary of the Postmaster-General oence.—(We are extremely gratified that the Irish Post office has been at length placed under the direction of Sir E. Lacs, than whom a more efficient officer is not em ployed in the public service. We trust that the proposed saving is not to be made by a reduction of the salaries of the herd-working clerks of the establishment.) —Dublin Morning Register. form which were then promulgated, and to carry or by a combination of the Monarchs of the day, nrut by military force, those princielss of the Holy All. ince, which took their rise in the base ratition - Poland, and were continued to the lait Treaty of Parise—(Cheers.)—But thanks to the diffnsion Jot ' knowledge, which his Hon. Friend had so ably de -scribed in, all its effects, a change has taken place in the opinions of all men. The people had non formed a better estimate of the principles of Go stennornt and of the resources of the country, and that diffusion of knowledge had broken the chain, which short-sighted diplomatists forged to fetter theta.---(Cheers.)--He (Dr. H.) was free to con fess, that he had the highest confidence in the cha racter of the Noble individual at the head of the Government, more particularly since 'he had made his liberal principles the basis of his administration, —(Hear.)—He hal observed his conduct through life; and he had seen him conspicuous for the most arise and just views of our foreign and domestic onlicy, anti for the utmost inteeritvand eceaS;Stencn intie whole tenour of his public life. Prepossessed its he was in his favour, he felt proud that he hail refused power and place during the greater part of hioa life, when he could not accept it without the sa ,crifice of his prieciples, and that he had at last enb, accepted office on the condition that. Reform should be made - a Cabinet measure.—(Cheers.)—But though he had confilence in Earl Grey, and the able and liberal individuals who were associated with him in the Government, he would repose no blind confidence in any administration. He would watch them, and see if they redeemed their pledge; and he would say, that if they (NI, they would be' en titled to the gratitude and admiration of the country. —(Cheers.)—Dr. H. concluded amidst general ap plause, by proposing the second resolution, which was seconded by Mr. A. Donkin, and carried unanimously. . Mr.W.H. ORD said, that if they had displaced one Ministry, and if they had now an Administration whose pledges had plated them in power, they had yet to win the Legislature. If they looked at the constitution of the two Houses, through which the measure must pass, be was afraid it afforded quite room enough for apprehension, without disunion amongst its friends. Look, in the first instance, at the House of Lord;" Ile could not conceive that those' members of thalassembly, who directly nomi nated to seats in the - Lower House members of their own 'OO &pendent, On themselves, thus giving them so much influence in the Litter, that it might in truth - he said there was one House of Lords, and another House of Lords and Commons could not Olio's that those Members of the House of Lords would look favourably on a measure which was to deprive them of this double, and some times more than double vote in the Legislatide! There was another class, who having, by the wis dom of their ancestors, very little left them, or hav ing, by their own wisdom, got through what was left them, found it convenient to live upon the money of the public; such men would not look fa vourably upon any measure of Reform which would put an end to sinecures, places, embassies, and other devices, by which a lean and hungry aristocracy contrived to get fat at the expense of the labour of the industrious democracy.— (Cheers.)—Then there was the Right Reverend the bench of Bishops.— (Laughter and cheers.)—He did not think they would entertain any very vehement or holy zeal in the cause of Parliamentary Deform—(A though..he did not .iw what—l - nigh t , be , effeetedhy a Minister, who, in addition to the gift of eloquence, bad the gift of Canterbury and Durham in his hands, though it was true they had not to look very far for miracle of that description.—(Renewed laughter.) —He slid not believe, however, that the Reverend Bench were likely to be very strenuous Parliamen tary Reformers. If they turned to the composition of the House of Commons, they would find a large majority of those returned by Peers and \webby Commoners, and by petty Corporations, or small bodies of individuals, who drove a thriving trade in the manufacture of Members of Parliament. These electors must all be declared enemies of Reform, and so must lie their faithful representatives. But besides these, there would be others who, from in terest and education—some holding high offices, end profiting by that expenditure which Reform would sweep away—and others, who by education, bated liberty, and were jealous of the people, had, by hook or by crook, obtained seats for places where, even under the present system, the popular voice, when roused, had still some influence---those per- Sons, though they might not oppose Parliamentary Reform, ',would prove only slippery friends,—(A laugh.)----Tit erefore Reformers should keep their eyes upon them, and be vigilant. They must be vigilant as well as steady, and mite care that those persons did not prove more dangerous enemies than their open antagonists.--(hear, hear.)--What were the best means of obtaining Parliamentary Reform in their present situation ? They should recollect that though the Reformers had long been used to • persevere in their cause, and were veterans in defeat, they were novices in victory, and had yet to learn the tactics of success. What ought to be the first watch-word and. symbol of our party ? Ile would say, Union—union amongst ourselves.—(hear.)--- What was the first object of any set of men who were associated for the attainment of any common purpose ? Union—how was that union to be ob tained among reformers ? By mutual CtilleiSsloll6 — 7 -by that simple method of give and take—a prin ciple which, in common bfe, bad effected the settles merit of more disputes than all the tedious wrangling of lawyers, and the slow decision of judges.— (Hear.)-11e felt moreover a confidence which be had not been much in the habit of extending to Mi nisters, when he saw that to the hands of Henry Brougham—and lie gave him that name, as it was by that, not by his tide, he would go down to pos terity—bad been entrusted the raising of the super structure of Reform—to the hands oldie man whose exertions and perseverance haul laid its solid and im perishable foundations in the education of the people. —(Cheers.)—But if Ministers had their task to perform, the people had theirs to perform also. It was with peculiar pleasure he hod lately heard that plain honest man who now holds the office of Chan cellor of the Exchequer say, " Thank God, the day had gone by when this country could be governed by patronage." That sentence, coming from a Minister of the Crowe, deserved to be written in gold.—(Cheers.)—But it would be the sentence of his own condemnation with the Aristocracy and the Parliament, if he were not upheld by the people; who owed it to him to give him the support which lie had required, by giving tip those sources of in fluence by which the Government had hitherto been carried on.—(Cheers.) —The Learned Gentleman then proposed the third resolution. Mr. EarrEnnv, in seconding the resolution said, he had been a resid en t in Newcastle for the litot .sixty years, and was one of the members of the committee, formed forty years ago, for a purpose similar to the present, and be couldnot but express his regret that lie saw only two members of that committee-411e Rev. William Turner and the Learned Gentleman who opened the question. On that occasion, th e y f a il e d in their object by slight differences among th e ms e lves, by splitting on minor points. Ile would urge the meeting, therefore, to support the petition which would be read to them, even though they might feel that it was possible to prepare a better one. Mr. LIDDLILL then rose and addressed the meet mg. First of all, the lion. and Learned Gentles nan who opened the question, in speaking of those boroughs which, according to law, do now return a esissiderable number of Members of the House of Commono, used language which, probably, upon re sonseleration he might be disposed to recall. He hail ascribed to the proprietors of those boroughs the basest and most sordid purposes, and talked of the wretched objects of corruption returned by them o the House of Commons. Does the Hon. arid Learned Gentleman recollect that those boroughs we not confined to one class of politicians, and that many of his own friends are returned to Purliament through them ? Lord John Russell, Lord Howiek, Mr. • Brougham, and Sir James Markintoih, to go no further, have sat in Parliament through the means of such boroughs; and will the Hon. and Learned Gentleman say that these persona are the wretched objects of the corruption he has desetiised.—(Cries of no, no, and disapprobation ?) If Wise true that by such boroughs many individuals have beets ill-, trodueed-to the HOttseead Commons, W 6 Were the brightest ornamenta..ottbit assembly, and who will he admired to the latest posterity as the greatest ornaments of the country, who could not otherwise' have obtained seats in Parliament, was it not evi dent that though t hese boroughs may be abhorrent to the people, they yet possess , countervailing advan rages which would render their total removal a most inconvenient measure.—(Tlte. lion'. Gentleman was here assailed with strong expressions or diseparebatipp,) mixed with cries of hear, hear, heer.)-- 7 1 att.. rialto sure nothing rem be gained (Mr, LsWene on) by refusing to hear a man who Inis coMe here, solely for your sake. I no longer stand .before you as a candidate for public favour; but come , here •as true friend of the people, determined to deliver my sentiments to you whether they meet with your ap probation or not.—(Cheers.)—The lion, and Learned Gentlemen has also said, " we are apt to expect too much from public men," a doctrine which it was rather novel to hear from him, and that " confidence should not be withdrawn from them because they do not act ,fully up to our wishes." I quite agree with the Hon. and Learned Gentleman ; 1 trust that he will extend the same charity to those on whom I have been accustomed to look more favourably than himself. The people' have a right to be well governed; and in the establishment and prosecution of that right I am prepared to go all lengths along with them,— (Cheers.)—But the people must recollect, that, if on the establishment of those rights, they are governed according to the dictates of reason, of justice, and of humanity, minor points should be contentedly conceded in exchange for the the bles sings or a rational, humane, and just Government. —(Loud and continued cheers.)—ls it then neces sary, in order to the constitution of good Govern ment, that a Reform of the House of Commons should take piece ?—(A cry of " it is.")—lf I were disposed to take the anti-popular side of the question, which I am riot, I might show. you that the present House of Commons, all cord rupt and impure as it may be, has just proved its independence, by declaring that it did not place confidence in the late Administration; and I believe the vote, which caused the resignation of the Duke of %Wellington and his colleagues was occasioned by the injudicious declaration of that Noble Duke in the House of Peers against Parliamentary Reform. Having conceded the point that Refocus is expe dient tit the present time, I may be permitted to • irtrjtiiie into Om nature - of the...iiefortn required. I deelarb • , my mo4victioqt to you that a t 'Rama should fiest,isoOtnini'inte, turd next be gradual.— (Dlsapprobatian.)" Temperate Reform," says one of the greatest Statesmen that ever lived, and much Mneater than any one now existing---Imean Mr. arko:--(Laughter and disapprobation)--"'Tem perate Reform," says that great man," is for the advantage of the people, it is for their advantage because it contains within itself a principle of growth. Whenever we improve we should leave room for further improvement. It is right to con sider, to look about, and examine the effect of what we have done. We can then proceed with confi dence, because we can proceed with intelligence." Such sentiments, however unpalatable they may be, will be acted upon by those who will bring for. wool the measure in Parliament. Considering Reform to be necessary, I should propose to give representatives to the large unrepresented towns. — That is the most rational and natural mode; and even that will be attended with great difficulties, because, unless you reform with justice, you had better not reform at all ; and if you refuse to pro ceed with caution, Reform may yet be longer de layed than you may be willing to believe. The present number of the House of Commons is considered already too large for a deliberative as sembly; and unless you are prepared to increase that number, you must disfranchise a number of boroughs to admit the new Members.—(A cry of " Undoubtedly.") The questions will then arise what boroughs would you disfranchise, and where will you affix the limit ? For a limit must be fixed somewhere.—(Cries of every one, at one fell swoop.) However sweeping (said Mr. L.) that declaration may be, considering that amongst these boroughs may be found every possible variety of franchise, and every conceivable diffsrence in the number of those enjoying such franchise, it is not one which would come with a very good grace from the responsible Ministers of this country. How is this distianchisement to be effected ? By Act of Parliament ; and there questions must arise of com pensation to individuals.--(Cries of " No," and loud disapprobation.) I say that these questions will arise ; end I have no doubt it was the difficulty of reconciling such mutters with any fixed pride Ales of action, that induced the late Ministil to make the declarations they did against Reform. But I con ceive that not one of' them is disqualified by those declarations from supporting Reform, if accompanied with such attendant measures as they may deem necessary.--(Disapprobation,) I am only perform ing a public duty in putting these queries. 1 know they are unpopular ; but they are more easily asked than answered. Parliamentary Reform, however ex tensive it may be, and whatever great additions to the representation of the people may be infused into the House, must in its origin be temperate, and he progress gradual.—(No, no.) I agree that it is highly desirable that the wasteful and profligate expense of contested elections should, in some degree, be di minished.' There is en old saying, " Eaperto credo." 1 do not see that an honest man, with it natural ambitioa to go into Parliament, with the sole disposition to do his duty to his country, should be obliged to half ruin himself and his family in en deavouring to get there. But in ,justice to myself and the freeholders of Northumberland, 1 will say, that not one halfpenny ever proceeded from me, or from any of my agents, in the shape of bribery. I speak only for myself; but I believe I may add, that notwithstanding the strife and excitement by which it was accompanied, there never was a contest ut which so little bribery avas practised.—(Cries of " Question.") The attention of one of the most valuable members of the Government (Lord Althorp) has been directed to the expellee of county elections. The Noble Lord moved fora Committee, which set many months, and had obtained much valuable in formation, of which he ( Lord A.) would know well how to avail himself. An important part of the question is the Vote by Ballot. We are told that it is justified by precedent, and is practised in France. 1 can only say that Vote by Ballot might be harm less, and perhaps expedient, if accompanied with a , --, • I it• -I 1 '7 '''.:''• '-'--- ' . ' 1 ? ife" f rn , .:; ..„7 / 11 • / hg q cation; but it ought not to .he adopted under a very extended right of suffrage.—(Disappro e- bation.) I see no reason why votes might not he ( ' 4 1/ */ taken in wards, and I think-mu c h might be done by 5„,,,,,_ . 4, ''' ' ' ::-. ".. : a system of proper registration of the freeholders, ~,,,% t=: - : ,. ., 14 ..... ;,, . , .;... !. .' 1 .. and taking all the votes at.the same time itrdi ff ereet (17 -- ---....:,1 . 15. , , ~i., - , ae -\,:-, . , i '. .. „4,1 parts of the county ; but I .do, not see why a free holder may not come forward openly, tied give his vote to whom he pliaseses(Cries of " the Doke of Newcastle," and et the Meiquis of Exeter."),' Mr. LOSH explairted. The Hon. Gentlerimihal stated that we ought to consider well beforeak° de.; stroy the close boroughs. Consider whet, foisooth ? Why that many honourable and great men haVe re. presented those boroughs. Undoubtedly they heve. But, if they did not come in for them, where were, they to come in for? What does it signify? What harm was there in Mr. Brougham's sitting for'a rot ten borough, us long as they are stiffCred to exist ? But, does the Hon. Gentleman mean to say, that if the country had been Lilly represented, that if all of you had the opportunity of exercising the elec tive franchise, Henry Brougham would not have been in Parliament ?—(Cheers.) Does the Hon. Gentleman forget that Henry Brougham—who, if he did not possess the power to disfranchise those boroughs, I am sure had the will—even with thing's as they are, was called forward by the people of the gr,atest county in the kingdom, and unanimously chosen their representative /—(Cheers.) Does the lion. Gentleman mean to ray, after this, that we should not disfranchise those boroughs, which, I re peat, I abominate, because they are the only places which able and honourable men can represent ? As a man of small fortune, and unconnected with the Arietocracy, has no chance to sit for large towns or counties, where he is to be placed ? The consequence is that, according to the present system, men of talent and integrity must either sit for close boroughs or not be returned at all. Fox, Sheridan, Pitt, and Canning, sat for such boroughs.—(llear, from' Mr. Liddell.) But, I say, that if there were a re-' formed House of Commons-4f the country were" fairly represented, we should have men of splendid talents and character returned to Parliament, witli out truckling to the great dealers in rotten boroughe; —(Cheers.) I repeat, it is disgraceful to them tei'" carry on that trade—for it is a trade -r and 'an abeit.z minable 'one. Smuggling is bad w ; but this is orst than imugglinge;-(Cheers.) We are told that poachers are abominable persons; but they are no* thing to the borough-mongers. Poachers have den!. inge which certainly are contrary to law ; but these borougleanongers set out with assuming the right to deal in the rights and liberties of other men.— (Cheers.) Yet the Right Hon. Gentleman has asked for compensation for them I Compensation, indeed I Compensation for what ? . Compensation for having ruined us ? Compensation for having re due d us to the last extremity ?. Compensation for having enriched themselves ?—thotigh I believe they miscalculated therebut they attempted to do it— at the expense of the industry, labour, and comforts of the people at large ?—(Cheers.)—Are they to be compensated for. this? I say they may thank the kindness and: coniideration of their countrymen if they estape : Without compensation of another kind. —(Laughter; and 'cheers.) The Hon. Gentleman has talked of chattered rights. How those close boroughs were founded I will not inquire, though I should Lave no difficulty in showing (if I were di posed to enter into the details,) that they were not intended to be such originally, stud have. only become what they are through degeneracy and coo. ruption. It is true they stand upon the law of the country ; but is that any reason why they should not be altered ? The slavesdealers held the same language; they told us they had chartered. rights and Acts of Parliament in their timer. But they were taught at last, by the people of England—who, I trust, will teach the lesson still further—that they had a right to alter the laws when they found they were oppressive, unjust, and absurd.--(Cheers.)— Though the sanction of the law may screen the possessors of such rights, is that any reason why it should not be altered ? Because it is the law. to-day, is it to be the law always ? I really cannot .lielp.thieking that this is an argument unworthy of the good sense and manly feeling of the Honourable Gentleman. If he mean merely to give Represents. Lives to a few large towns, and to leave the. bo roughs untouched, I say that is not such a Reform as I should call temperate; for it would be little or no Reform at all—it would be a mere palliative, in tended to put off, but not to cure.--(Loud cheers.) But we are also told that Reform should be gra-. dual. If the Honourable Gentleman means that we should give time to the king, Lords, and Corn mons to prepare and pass the 13111, I agree with him--(Laughter)--but they have no time to lose. No, they must do it its fast as they can; whether to-day or to-morrow, Ido not say, but after it was proposed, 1 would not allow them many days, for I am quite sure they cannot do it too soon,—(Cheers mil laughter.) I agree that the Reform should be temperate ; that is, free from violence; but I would have it steady, firm, and determined, and would not stop till every independent person in the country \V 11 s entitled to vote for representatives of the people. I mean, that all persons who are independent and not likely to be i nfluenced by others, should have the right of voting, that it should be as fres and ex. weir° as possible,end exercised as speedily, and is such small districts as would prevent men from thrase » ing away their money. The Hon. Gentleman has quoted some foreign language, probably Welch—. ( Laughter)—to tell us that he had experienced the effects of the present system in that respect; and we are obliged to him for explaining to us, that the persons who supported him in Northumberland con ducted themselves properly with respect to bribes. But has be shown us that there was no corruption in the lute county elections—that no one me or drank on such occasions at the expence of the cen didetes—that no agents were paid—that no persons were carried in chaises, carriages, or other vehicles, who were not accustomed to be seen in such fine things?--(Laughter,) And does he mean to say that this does not constitute a species otcorrup tion ? When a county election cost thirty, forty, or fifty thousand pounds, and when such an expendi ture is nn essential ingredient in making a Member of Parliament, does he mean to tell us, that this does not hinder the free exercise of the privileges of Englishmen, by continuing there presentation to per sona of large prospects, and that it is not another instance of Parliamentary corruption ? I say it is, and one of the worst kind; for the system of the representation should be such that every men' of character, talent, and integrity, however smelt his fortune, should have an opportunity of oiler ing himself to his countrymen.—(Cheers.)-11 that the case now ? No man can now contest a county or a large town, without incurring an enor mous expence, or, as bus lately been seen at Liver pool, without the most gross corruption ; such as is constantly, indeed, witnessed at many places-- Berwick and Carlisle, for instance. And if a pits son is not inclined, or is unable to conform to those practices, his only alternative is to throw himself upon those worthy wholesale dealers who bring their seats to market. 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