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Isoz,-, 4' ,-- ,- -t;,*; • .V- ....0,&•„-, — .erg' -, ico , --1/4 ,, pi', / 7 ~ • re l depen ;heir deo& uld 3ritain CO iarne Caallet dec litv by a ley c ou. co uld be CO n 'owes. to, • t his Me , u lt of Inut lbe . s ; ting . 1 the neutraht): by them ti: t is b" 00' I as the a l °' uence as 1,01 lus been co ADWRALTY, SOMERSET PLACE, APRIL 27, 1238. THE COMMISSIONERS for EXE mth CUTING the OFFICE of LORD HIGH AD •.AL a 0 , UNITED KINGDOM of GREAT 011RIZAIN andeIRELAND do hereby give Notice, tha i t ~oliEsnAv, the Nth of May next, at Ten o'cloc 0 B'7 Forenoon, j est A Superintendent will put up verq io his Mv's Dock-yard at Portsmouth, se- S to ; ‘ °4 of OLD STORES, consisting of Hammocks, i es, Canvas s and Canvass Bags in rags, Rope, &c., paper stuf f , .Haversack s , Lignum Vitae Shivers, Ocham Rubv r°4l Riga, and Italian Hemp, Hemp Flying' and he a4ll , Hemp Rakings, Yarns from rope and junk, lying in the said Yard. Ca pt alla. el : 1 " 3 Wishi ng r u rpose to view the Lots must apply to the Superint en d ent f or N otes of A d m i ss i on f or t h at etit a t th poes and C on di t i ons o f S a l e may be had here and ard, LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, MAY 1, 1833. No. 12,680.) ( PRICE 7D.) rate, and to impose difficulties upon that of the country in which it is obtained at the higher rate. 10. That the price of wheat in Great Britain stands generally at a higher level than in the other countries of Europe, whose inhabitants are engaged in similar pursuits with those of the British empire. was to come under the disethsion of the liou4e this evening. 2 d i n st., ef ,, an 01 th,e eye len t, an a appeinotics t ex n ,ctea Je ! ne Y 'AL Do tch Gov! e ne p, e i a tior'' appo i n ted! 16th ioa 7bst e on han • ri° a t this Pe 0J on O f 11 .,; - ;:iitous to - IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. Lord ALTHORP considered that it would be very pro per for such Members as bad petitions in their possession within the House on the subject which was about to come tinder discussion, to present them. At the same time it would be desirable that they should be brought up without any comment. Mr. H. HUGHES presented a petition from the parish of St. David's, in the city of Oxford, against the house and window taxes. HOUSE OF LORDS, APRIL 30. On the LORD CHANCELLOR. taking his seat on the Woolsack at five o'clock, The Marquis of DOWNSHIRE presented a petition from Ballydow•n and another parish in Down, praying for the better observance of the Sabbath. Also a petition against the Irish Church Bill. The Eirl of ROSEBERRY presented a petition from Argyle, against church patron ige. lie Earl of RADNOR presented petitions, for the. abolition of slavery, frem Canterbury, and from places in Dorsetshire. Also a petition flow Oldham in favour of the Factory Bill. The Earl of CARBERRY presented petitions for the abolit!on of slavery, and the better observance of the S,bbath, from the town and neighbourhood of Banff. FIFTY-THIRD SALE. CUSTOMHOUSE, London, April, 25, 1533. B y n FOR SALE, -lier of the Hon. Commissioners of his Majesty's On A CUStOMR,) lOUrtsnAT the 9th, and FRIDAY the 10th of May, c 43 3, at O ne o'clock in the Afternoon precisely, at thetn nlercial S ale Rooms, Mincing Lane, the follow i ng ng`4)6da, 11. That such higher price is in a great meas ure to b e ascribed to the laws which regulate the trade in for e i gn corn . 12. That the varying scale of duties imposed by the said laws operates frequently as a prohibition upon the import of foreign grain, and consequently upon the export of British commodities. Dr. LUSHLNGTON presented petitions to the sam: , effect froin the parish of Sc. George's in the East, and from Shoreditch, in the county of Middlesex. Mr. Alderman WOOD presented a similar petition from the vestry and inhabitants of St. Bride's, in the city of London. ,;et. Mr. PHILLPOTTS presented a similar petition from the inhabitants of the city of Gloucester. Major BEAUCLERK presented a similar petition from the borouvh of Finsbury. Mr. WARBURTON presented a similar petition from the householders of Stockbridge, in Hampshire. Mr. CLAY presented petitions to the same effect from the parish of Sc. John's, Wapping; from Bethnal green, and St. Leonard's, Shoreditch. 13. That, therefore, the manifest ,ff:cts of the coru laws are to leave the agricultural interest exposed to all the difficulties which arise from frequent and sudden fluc tuations in price—to discourage the export, and conse quently production of British commodities—to increase the cost of cultivating the soil and of producing the mann ftctures of the United Kingdom—to render the industry of the nation less capable of competing with that of °tin r nations—and to make the people lees competent to sup. port the several burdens which the various exigencies of the State have imposed upon them. U. That, therefore, it is expedient to revise the said laws and to place them upon a footing more consistent with justice, and more conducive to the welfare of the most important interests of the country. The Noble Lord, in conclusion, stated that, being inex perienced in the forms of their Lordships' House, he did not know what course he ought now to pungte, but he would conform himself to what were their Lordships' wishes. • crh l/ an d in ,; t 1 iciest tiec°"' pled the Pre ° t, ,int of f ", ru e, eqUal l Y 0 rid L"W C m od 3rEn iitleef t io 110 l e l v a e ?le o p ly dec, ijer t he id c os' Ivo , ; 0 , 0:: of t b e ' 0 ;r o b to O r es , e n s ti,o be recce' de, e 211° :0 14 th e neu tte° iu i t ive ca r a d is " . . 4 tit l as ohl b ` i hio •In i t red _dr of for ado by Lord CAMDEN presented numerous petitions for the abolition of slavery. The Marquis of WORCESTER presented a petition from the Magistrates of Worcester against the Beer Act. Lord SUFFIELD presented fifty petitions for the total and immediate emancipation of the slaves, all from Wesleyan Methodists ; also a petition from Liverpool, stating that they viewed with abhorrence the system of flogging in the army, navy, and the gaols. - The Earl of WINCHILSEA presented a petition, pray ing their Lordships wholly to the tax upon malt, from a parish in Kent, and to substitute some other. The Noble Earl stated that in looking over the Rate Lab , ur Ri I he had found a great fault—namely, that the Bill fixed the rate so high, th it it would be impossible for several parishes with which he was connected to obtain the benefit the Bill intended to bestow. Mr. T. ATTWOOD, in supporting the petition from Shoreditch, begged leave to call the attention of the Noble Lord (Althorp) to a declaration signed by several very re spectable members of a deputation, which had waited on his Lordship on the subject of the assessed taxes, on which he wished some exp'anation to be given. It was stated that Lord Althorp, on that occasion, had declared that on several occasions be (Mr. Attwood) had voted against the house and window taxes, and many other taxes, merely for the sake of embarrassing the Ministry. He wished to know whether that had been really stated by the Noble Lord. E irl GREY deeply regretted that his Noble Friend should have thought it neeess iry at the present time to bring this subject into consideration—a subject which could not remain too carefully undisturbed—(Hear, hear, hear) — and one of the greatest possible evils attending which was the perpetual stirring of the question.—( Hear.) He ap prehended the course to be, pursued i❑ compliance with the Noble Earl's (Fitzwilliam) views would be, that be should first move the resolutions pro forma—that the debate should he adjourned—th it the resolutions should then be printed, and the debate resumed at any convenient opportunity. The resolutions of the Noble Eirl embraced statements of returns—of calculations, revenue, and so forth, leading to results of great importance, not only to the agricultural but to the general interests of the country, which it would be necessary to look into, and he would the•refere propose that the debate should be adjourned to a later day than Tuesday next. He thought it would be more convenient for the consideration of the question, that it should be postponed till Tuesday se'nnight. Eirl FITZ WILLIAM said he should be most glad to take any cow se that was convenient to the House; he, tl,erefore, moved that the reso►utions be taken into fur ther consideration on this day fortnight, and be in the meantime printed.—Ordered. Lord ALTHORP said he had given an explanation be fore, and be would give no further explanation.—(Loud and general cheering.) Mr. Sergeant SPANKIE presented a petition, from the parish of St. Sepulchre, against the assessed taxes. Mr. CLAY stated that while his impression was that no such statement had been made by the Noble Lord on the oc casion referred to, he believed that the persons who had signed that declaration could not have bad the slightest intention to misrepresent. Dr. LUSHINGTON distinctly stated that the Noble Lord never m ide such a declaration, and expressed his regret that in the present state of excitation they had thought it necessary to broach such a subject. Sir F. BURDETT was sure that those who had witnessed so long as he had, the Noble Lord's conduct when in opposition, and on many clenching occasions, would hardly have believed him if he had stated contrary to his explanation. The Eril of WINCHILSEA moved for certain returns of the amount of the poor rates, &c.—Ordered. On the motion of the LORD CHANCELLOR, an address tvas ordered to be sent to his Majesty, praying for copies of the 4th report of the Common Law Commis sioners, and the 3d and 4th reports of Commissioners ap pointed to inquire into the Law of Real Property. The House then adjourned. ILK F OR HOME CONSUNIPTION : Manufact ures , Ch a lice, Chalice Scarfs chiefs 44,1 Handkerchiefs, Shawls, Camb , ic Handkerd ,tbtr, Bandanuoes, Taffaties, Grass Cloth, Combs, and A,,, 1R.4.4t India Manufactures ; India, French, , and other T , 4; 4 , ~"; Gilt, Ormolu, and Wooden Clocks, foys, O, s„fiia, Jewellery, Mock Jewellery, Bugle., Plate Glass, lisoki'l's, Musical Boxes, Beads, Coral Drop', Fish lti el sth er Ag4t el set ; Ermine Skins, Pateters, Colours, Goods mentioned in the Catalogue. T o Gaute Ribb ons f or EXPORTATION. 'll, ulttes-e view e d at t h e Ki ng ' s W are h ouse, C ustom H ouse , °eds.., set,str on Monday the 6th, Tuesday the 7th, and the hC II ,, aY the Bth of May, 1535, from Ten o'clock in rr i , ping until Three o'clock in the Afternoon. . II ,Lett. urehasers to pay down 25 per cent. as a deposit 44 Y th 'it ' (4 Sale, and the remainder on or before Thurs. In t l p e 23( 1 di), of m ay , 1853, at the Receiver of Fines of tre„`irl'llures Office, Custom. Hotise. between the hours Atte,- urea in the Morning and Three o'clock in the Coda or the deposits will become forfeited. The °II or r' h. " c ki fo r Hom Consumption must be taken away those held Thursday the 30th day of May, 1833, and ;‘ 1 11) 4 : °1 , for Exportation on Tuesday the 23d day of 4i li'd,: 1 83 : 3 , or the purchase money to become for -0o - ,' l " the goods re-sold for the benefit of the Crown, rC e „i 'arther time will in any case be allowed, the Com tf 4:el:a having directed that in future the Conditions Pl ea e t Ktriely adh ere d t o . !ill t ,„!, t o take not i ce t h at t h e G oo d s Ba ld i n this. Sale atm"' "a deli vered until after one clear day (exclusive of e t ") of the day they are sold. locsli'lfigues may be had at the King's Warehouse, Cus s'••• t '?', price One Shilling each. rtEAST INDIA HOUSE. APRIL 30, 1833. 'E COURT of DIRECTORS of the t 1 ,1 %. 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L b. o,,leztY has b een grac i ously pleased to grant a plate of itkle tnld ori °f th e P rivy Purse, to be run for at Lancaster. _ erst and the conditi ons are to be the same as for the Sy C; Nesv..ttako LT RRAGH MEETING, APRIL 25. S'e,yr.oes of 40 sovs. each, h. ft., with 25 sovs. added, kil t ,,,;Course, second horse saved his stake, was won by " Q 4, 4 ,."0 b. f. Lodola, beating Mr. Montgomery's gr. c. by liStili7,five others. il nitet s 4 ,7 l.o n's of 30 sovs. h. ft , Three.yr-old Course, second kite. his stake, was won by Mr. Maher's Shamrock, by 7 a ttog Mr. Hyne's br. c. Haphazard, and eight others. ki4: l o/.,`, Proved himself of first-rate speed. He was bought tg,"7 Lord Portarlington, and holds the favourite for the 'last meeting. THURSDAY. 147 4 1%, 1 ;1ate of 100 gs. for horses, &c., four miles, six en . <vo started, easily won by Mr. Disney's b. h. Sky -11411,_ w azY, beating Mr. E. Kelly's b. c. Despise. Aer sr Stakes, 10 sovs. each, h. ft., and 30 added for I t _ 4 lk; v e a admitted, Peel Course heats, won by Mr. W. tpAp4,4l.4b.istieyw,arence, beating Mr. Mansfield's Paul Clifford. NI , it jo , Mount Eagle, Mr. Mathew's Nigel, Mr. Cald. ko t ''", Mr. Maher's Helen, Mr. Gardiner's Rem- Q 's 14711 9 4 P'Seect. s 't.4 4 l: l l4 rcii n on er : each, 12st., from the end of the rails in, won s ch. tn. Blind of an Eye, beating Mr. Coghlan's 1 411 h, ' I LI MILITARY OBITUARY. 4 14. N t°444./t,'l4oL 1p ter. ° •EL B . — Ogilvie, 46 F. Secunderabad, Ma- NI Of 9 late C 4 (1' oot, of R. Art. Charlton ; Adam Peebles, b ett i : t aig Il e, h Cti„--,k i f,'• R. Mar. A l' 1 7 P. ch a `c?richeY, 10 Lt. Dr. Cawnpore, Bengal ; Ro -4%1%1, R. ) 4 , "arn ; Weston, h. p. 11. Art. Edinburgh ; •. h' 3 " r • ; Short, h R. Mar. • Lunn, h. p. 104 F. ; 4 1, hill. Portt a * P. ; • ' "rttE t, F.. -* ; Weston, h. p. Unatt. ; Mur- Autherford, of late 11 Vet. Bn. Jedburgh, t e4l ;e ) 44 :11 "111-- -C 59 billag,a Oates, 20 F. Belgaum, Bombay ; Robinson, k . h e i tt ` t, n ; s l= . Berhampore, Bengal; Aubin, 57 F.; dill ly ret. r "len ; Heatly, R. Eng. Lisbon ; Gray R. ki nn 4 seib,;,P, Inv. Art. Woolwich ; Brownlie, of late li n ; Sh a a , ditt o . 'gn ; Gilbert, p. K. Mar. ; John Pearce, '72l'.....Tartin, ditto ; Greenwood, ditto ; Harries, • 4, 4 3 St. ' r. • Scott, C o • ; 'Pens ° , h. p. 66 F. Barr. Mast. at Bal. n virg h . a "ea, h . ' "• P. so F. Canada; Buchannan, h. p. 7 tn; . ` 4, ls, 4 Line King's Ger. Leg. litt,„t24t ha zol,,, ; :L. SECOND LIEUTENANTS.—Johnson, 7 A. t lla CaY, hp. 79 F. ; Ralph, late of Vet. .; , late ati•l 3 , 0 n it -R. Vet. Bn. • Leutering, h. p. / #l l 11 ,; ; 1. 4itpritus h it. Mar. 4tl e3 , 14 4 , • P. 5 Gn. Bn. Panama; Ander. kg late b bi ctx, Staff., ' w en; 46 F. Chinsurah, Bengal ; 4 u%p "rPs. 4 4j g•v ela itirrlD, 0 4 414. ; s • P. m a ; Ord, Nied • Surg. Field, 2 Life Gds. ; As tact S Rate ; Calder; Halifax, N. S. ; Staff Surg. Cg a ' 'Ters e ., g•Caid Well :`,. Surg. Williamson, h. p. Banff, P• ; Surg. Young, h. p. 10 F. St. 81.43414 4/1 , * -- Rev. Horace Parker, h, p. ••ile e ce tins • feg d ,song f°r 'd °f it/ k to a voi t he tn i n ate th r theft yes event . thu d they fie" o ,3o o ; to ires 9 i v4 t he e tV t V., s ot u n shed so d irffO rt ; tho g bt tO t rt d' u tY s on the with e peace Earl BROWNLOW presented a petition from a parish in Lincolnshire, against any alteration in the corn laws. Earl FITZ WILLIAM presented a petition from Perth, praying for an alteration in the corn laws. The Noble Lord mov,d for a return of the amount of duty paid upon corn imported into this country from 113.29 to 180.2 inclusive. The Noble Lord said that it appsiiecl , whim to he the wish of the House, when he gave notice•of his intentions, that he should move his resolutions pro ifirma, and in order that they might be printed. He shou'd more them pro forma, and he would ask for leave to lay them upon the table. He should therefore simply confine himself, not stating the arguments, to the object of each particular resolution, as he should lay it before their Lordships. The first resolution which he should propose to their Lordships, would have reference to the price of corn which had prevailed in this country for a certain number of years. The second resolution would have reference to the price of corn in those countries of the world which were exporters of corn. The third would have reference to those countries, which like this, were also importers of corn. The 4th would relate to the total quantity of corn which bad been import& d into this country under the Act which now regulated foreign corn, stating the rate of duties levied thereon. The sth would state the same fact in a somewhat different shape, and in reference to the different rates of duty. The 6th would state the average importation, end the average annual sum that bad been raised upon that importation. The substance of these resolutions would then state the con clusions he himself had come to, and which he would explain to the House at a future iime.—(Hear.) The Noble Earl then read the following resolutions :- 1. Reselved,—That it appears to this House that the weekly average price of wheat, as fixed subsequent to the passing of the 9 Geo. IV., c. 60, was, on the following days, viz.— s. d. 1828.—July 11 per qr. 55 7 Oct. 3 1829.—Jan. '2 75 11 April 3 July 3 6B 2 Oct. 2 6O O i 1630.—Jan. 1 55 5 April '2 July 2 tB 6 Oct. 1 62 6 8. d 1811 . 1, --Jan. 7 ' per qr. 68 3 ' " April 1 • Ja1y . 1..... ............. Oct. 7 6l 0 1632.-3 an. 6 59 1 April 6 [July 6 6:3 Oct. 5 54 7 lEa3.—Jan. 4 fr e) 6 April 5 Anti that on the 19th of September, 1828, the average was fixed at 58s. 6d. ; and sgain, on the 24th of October, 1828, at '76s. ; that on the sth of June, 1829, it was fixed at 71s. sd. ; and again, on the 30th of Oct-ber, 1829. at 555. 4d. ; that on the 6th of August, 1830, it was fixed at 745. 1111.; and on the 17th of September, 1830, at 60s. 2d. ; and, further, that the I ieltest average under the provisions of the said Act was 765. 7d. as fixed on the 14th of November, 1826; and that the lowest average was 51s 3d. as fixed on he 19. oof Oc 2. That it further appears to this House, turns of his Majesty's Consuls abroad, tha prices of Wheat, at the following times and pl tuber, 1832. From the re- the mean Dantzic. Hamburg. Leghorn. "Philadelphia. '-- e. d. s. d. s.. d. s. d. July, 1828 24 3 23 0 39 7 29 9 Oct. 1828 56 6 41 8 44 9 37 '2 Jan. 1829 59 2 48 7 61 0 53 0 April, 1829 43 2 46 11 52 4 51 0 July, 14•29 35 9 I 36 11 47 10 42 6 Oct. 1529 3B 1 134 6 138 7 33 0 Jan. 1830 29 9 31 3 35 11 36 April, 1830 33 9 131 0 39 7 0 0 July, 1830 43 3 35 2 36 4 at 9 Oct. )83C 33 10 38 7 41 5 33 10 Jan. 1831 47 5 46 9 47 4 38 11 April, 1831 4B 7 49 0 43 1 47 3 July, 1831 45 7 37 6 45 '2 34 0 Oct. 1831 4l 1 45 0 45 3 35 8 Jan. 18.' ) April, 38 3 37 10 43 8 33 4 July, 1832 42 6 39 3 41 2 40 10 Oct 1832 3O 7 28 4 39 5 36 7 Dec. 11132 29 0 :19 3 4l 0 3N 9 3. That it further appears to this House, from the re turns of his Majesty's Consuls abroad, that the mean prices of Wheat at the following times and places were— Amster. Rotten- Ant. llav re Mar. darn, darn. werp. seilles. e. d. s. 0. s. d. s. d. s. 3. July, 1828 ... 30 9 33 4 31 6 50 3 52 0 October, 1828 ... 41 1 54 0 47 10 56 10 60 2 January, 1829 ... 55 0 April, 1829 ... 45 8 50 5 55 8 61 10 59 6 July, 1829... 45 11 48 11 52 1 60 6 56 11 Sept. ar Oct. ' 1829 43 '2 41 9 51 4 51 3 58 6 January, 1830 . April, 1830 ... 36 0 36 8 40 0 45 8 61 5 July, 1831... 41 10 43 2 43 10 47 1 58 7 October, 1830 46 9 48 () 51 5 53 0 59 10 January, 183 t ... 41 1 April, 1831 .. 47 3 57 9 52 9 49 0 53 3 July, 1831 ... 41 10 51 4 55 2 50 3 51 7 October, 1531 ... 43 2 50 6 57 0 54 6 58 7 January, 1832 ... 43 3 April, 1832 ... 38 3 41 4 47 11 52 1 64 3 July, 1832 ... 44 13 41 6 50 6 52 1 • October, 1832 39 9 37 3 143 4 51 6 55 10 December, 18:32 ...I 38 11 40 4 1.6 61 48 6 37 6 4. That it further appears to this House that the total qoantity of foreign wheat entered for home consumption under the provisions of the 9th George IV. cap. 60, to the sth of April, 1833, has been 4,795,746 quarters 4. That it further appears to this House that the total quantity of foreign wheat entered for home consumption under the provisions of the 9th George IV. cap. 60, to the sth of April, 1833, has been 4,795,746 quarters and 1 bushel ; and that the total amount of duty paid thereon 'has been 1,604,190/. 108. 101., and that the average rate of such duty is 6s. Sid. per quarter, or thereabouts. That of the aforesaid total quantities Were i mported— Qrs. Bush. per Quarter. In 1829 ... 1,260,633 1, at an average rate of duty of 9s. 4d. 1830 ... 1,494,311 7, 6s. 7d. 1831 ... 1,088,797 3, 4s. 9d. 1832 ... 162,607 7, _ —1/. 3s. 9tt. 5. That of the total quantity of 4,795,744 quartets I bushel so entered for home consumption, under the pre visions of the 9th of George IV. cap. 60, there were ad mitted— Qrs. Bush. s. d. 1,571,311 5 at a duty of 1 0 per quarter. 1,248,687 2 ditto 2 8 ditto. 561,437 0 ditto 6 8 ditto. 508,'217 7 ditto 10 8 ditto. viz. 3,89'2,653 6 ditto 10 8 ditto, or under. 903,092 3 ditto 13 8 ditto, or upwards. 6. That it therefore appears the supply of foreign wheat afforded to the people of Great Britiin, under th e peovi... !lions of the 9th Geo. IV., cap. 60, has been at the rate of 1,008,860 quarters per annum, or thereabouts; an d that ti e revenue derived therefrom has been at the rate of 337479/. per annum, or thereabouts. 7. Ti at nothing is more injurious to those classes of the community which are engaged in the cultivation of the soil, than great and rapid fluctuations in the value of their corn mod ities. 8. That such fluctuations cannot altogether be pre vented in the price of an article whose production is ne cessarily affected by the variations of the seasons; but that it does not appear to that House that the existing regula tions for the trade in foriegn corn have succeeded in di minishing those fluctuations ; but on the contrary, they have a tendency to aggravate them, by placing occasional and unnec, , asary nbs•acles in the way of a tree trade in corn with foreign eountt ies. 9. That any disparity between the price of provisions in one country and another. Las a tendency to give compa rative encouragement to the industry of that country in which the subsistence of man is obtained at the lower HOUSE OF COMMONS, APRIL 30. Owing to two ballo's (Linlithgow and N.-‘V Sarum) being fixed for this day, the gallery was not opened until 10 minutes past live o'clock. THE GRAVESEND PIER BILL Mr. L. HODGES hiving presentel a petition from some place in Kent, in favour of the Gravesend Pier Bill, moved the second reading of that Bill. Captain YORKE opposed it. Ile aid that any one who knew any thing of the navigation of a river must know that any projection into it must hive an injurious effect, as it would cause a deposit, and consequently a bank — thus greatly impeding the navigation. 13ettiles tt•e injury to the river, this B ll would create a serious injury to of 2,000 watermen who obtained a livelihood by carrying passengers to and from vessels; passengers in fu ture would be landed at the jetty, and then that Indus. crious cl .ss, with their families, would be utterly ruined. Last session, when this 13111 was in Committee, the merits of every clause were discu-sed and examined, and the Committee were pretty nearly divided in opinion, and many witnesses of high authority, particularly Sir G. C•ckburn, and Sir Byani Martin stated that the proposed jetty would be productive of great inconvenience to the naviga tion of the river. The Hon. and Gallant Member con. eluded by moving that the Bill be read a second time this day six months. THE LINLITHGOW ELECTION. Mr. Dyson app,areil at the Bar with the following li s t of Members, who had been b Ilotted for to form the Corn. mittee tor trying the merits of the petition against the return for Linlithgow. Wm. Christmas. John Fielden. Lord Ar. clover. Hon. C. A. W. Pelham. J. Alarryatt. Earl Grosvenor. Thos. Attwood. Sir S. T. B. Pechell. John O'Connell. Charles Tyrrell. Hon. C. O'Callaghan. The Committee having been sworn at the table, with drew. --•-- The discussion on the Gravesend Pier Bill was then reßurned. Sir E. CODRINGTON made a few observations which were inaudible in the ga'lery. Mr. L. HODGES hoped the House would agree to the second reading of the Bill, as the proposed pier would be a great improvement. Provisions had ben made against any supposed injury to the navigation of the liver; and whatever the evidence of Sir B. Martin and Sir George Csckburn mielit he, lie could state that the Board of Ad miralty, the Corporation of the Trinity House, and the C)rporation of London, so far from opposing the measure, were in favour of it. Mr. O'CONNELL wished to ask the Right Hon. the First Lord of the Admiralty whether he understood from the higher naval authorities that the pier would interrupt the navigation of the river. Sir J. GRAHAM understood that the prevent Bill was the same as that introduced last session. That Bill had been submitted to the Board of Admiralty, and Sir Thos. Hardy went to Gravesend to examine the probable effect of creating a pier. That Gall nt Officer felt sa , isfied with the arrangements, and that it would not only b,. harmless as regarded the navigation of the river, but it would be a great accommodation to the bear.) Lord GRANVILLE SOMERSET had understood, from high naval authorities, that the jetty would be pro ductive of injury to the navigation of the river. —(Hear, hear.) Sir George Cocklimn, Sir B. Martin, tire Port Admiral at Chatham, and other authorities coincided in the opinion that great disadvantages would result from it. If they linked at the petitions upon the subject they would find that, while only one petition was presented in favour of the Bill, several had been presented against it. Mr. Alderman WOOD, supported the Bill, contending that it was for the public accommodation that the jetty should be erected. Mr. ROTCII said, that as the jetty could not possibly injure the navie tion of the river, he saw no reason for not passing the Bill. Mr. HODGES said that the jetty was so much wanted that two lives had been lost during the last year, in con sequence of the Bill having been defeated last cession. The House divided ; the nucebers were— For the amendment 49 Against it l6l Majority —ll2 The Bill tear read a second tune. The Salisbury Eleeti:in Committee was then nominated, but amidst such noise that we were not able to catch any of the names. THE ADMINISTRATION. Ori the SPEAKER calling the name of Sir John Sir FRANCIS BURDETT said, the situation in which my Hon. Colieigue finds himself placed—indeed, I nay say havi ng taken offic.e under the present Ailministr , tion chiefly with t h e vie and in the hope of promoting the be ne fi t o f t h e public, he now finds himself i n circum stances which make it impo.sibl? for him at the sAne tim e to disch4rge the duty he feels that he owes to hia constituents and to the Administration of which he form e d a part—my Hon. Colleteue finding himself placed in a situation of such p, culiar embarrass ment, has requested Inc (having accepted th, stewardship of the Chiltern Hundreds) to move that a new writ be ii•u-d fir We,tminster. The motion wis carried without a single chi er or oliservation. Imie, , d it was evident the greater part of the 11-:use xvi;s prepired fur the announce.ment. Mr. H. HUGHES begged leave to abk the Noble Lord whether he would not allow tt:e presentation of those pe titions which immediately related to the subject which Mr. HUNIE presented petitions from Chipping Barnet and St. Giles, Oxford, praying few the repeal of the house and window tax, and the substitution of no other tax in its room. The Hon. Member stated that he most cordially concurred with the prayer of the petitioners. Mr. H. HUGHES, thaugh he could not go quite to the extent contemplated in the petition, was ready to admit that he was inclined to give his sanction to the adoption of a property tax. Mr. D. W. HARVEY presented similar petitions from the parishes of St. Margaret and St. George, Westminster. Sir 0. MOSLEY presented similar petitions from Stoke-on-Trent. Sir S. Wns.r..Lur pros-nted similar petitions from Paddington and marylei on .; and Mr. BEItKELEY from Morton-on-the-Marsh, G'oucestershire, from N,wark-on- Tient, and from Iltninster. REPEAL OF THE HOUSE AND WINDOW TAX. Sir J. KEY then rose to bring for ward his pro mised motion for the repeal of the house and win dow taxes. Although Honourable Members might be anxiously I , oking forward to the result of the mo tion he should have the honour of submitting to the House, eat he rejoiced in the delay—the short delay that had taken place, in affording tin opportunity of presenting peteiona, because it would afford nut only to Alinis.ers, but also to all Members or the House, an opportunity of seeing and knowing that not only the inhabitants of London and the large towns were anxious as to the results es_ the =vital he should submit, but th it the same expectation and wishes were txperienced in other ports of the coun try. He should have been well pleased if some Member or greater talent and experience than hitriselt had under taken the task or moving for the repeal of the house and window duties, but, representing one of the largest. districts ch efly aggrieved by the injustice and inequality of the tax, he trusted he should never be accused, in bringing forward that measure, of a wish to embarrass the Government. It would not be necessary for hire at the present period to enter into an historical ace unt of the rise and progress of those taxes ; It would be sufficient for hint to remark that, like other bid measures in their first imposition, they were so mild in their opera ion and so moderate in their amount that they met with but little opposition. When first imposed they only amounted to from 2s. to Ss. on each house, and in progress or tune had amounted to the enormous SUMS that were now exacted, producing a deadly influence on trade, and an almost total stagnation to industry, and swallowing a great portion of the income of the industrious classes who, as the sinews and support of the state, were entitled to have that income employed for their own comfort. It was true that the house and window tax had not risen to its present enor mous amount without frequent remonstrance ; majorities of an untelotmed House of Commons, which example, he trusted, would never be followed in a reformed Hewer, had borne down those remonstrances. The house tax, as ap pe tred from returns, amounted to upwards of 1,357,0411. I3s. 111., of which London and its districts within the bills of mortality paid considerably more than half; and if to that was added those hives of industry, York shire, Sinners-tshire, and Lancashire, it would be found that more than three-fourths of the amount was paid by ' four counties out of the fifty-two, showing clearly that the tax was chiefly on trade and industry. With the advocates of direct taxation, these taxes were obnoxious on two principles—first, because they were almost equally expensive in their collection with indirect taxes ; se condly, because they were a tax which appeared to be on consumable commodities, seeing it , bore unequally and principally on tradesmen. These taxes had the et&ct of increasing the price of commodities in their progress to consumers precisely the same as it the taxes were so much money Itvied on the commodities themselves. With the advocates of indirect taxation they must be equally 0' jec tionable. Adam Smith, and other disciples of political economy, had seated that the house tax was a just tax, and they defended their position by two arguments, first, that it was in the nature of a property tax, and thereby justifiable, orr the acknowledged principles that all property ought to pay towards the state for the protection it off irded ; and secondly, because they said the value of an individual's house rent was a fair criterion of the amount of his disposable income; and therefore an ad soh rem lax on }liaises in this way was equivalent to g tax on disposable income. The Hon. Baronet was prepared to contend that both those propositions were unsustainable, and that a tax in this way was not to be consi:iered either in law or t quity equivalent to a tax on disposable income. It would be idle to con sider it a tax on disposable income—it would have to lie if it were so, as Dr. Smith called it, a tax on the build ing, rent, and materials of the premises; and if that were really so, the humble tract swan wou'd be but lightly taxed, while the Noble Peer and wealthy Commoner would have to pay heavily for their splendid mansion. Dr. .Smith h a d sa id that , if a propert y-tax were thus imposed it would ruin half the nobility in the country. Supposing such to be the case, Honourable Members would have to recollect how many hundreds of honest and industrious traaesne:n had been ruined by the extrem e taxation upon them, caused by the unequal pressure of the system.—(Hear, hear.) If Nobleman and Gentlemen did not pay these taxes in proportion with the rest of society, they could not clearly have the same right to a protection for their property as if the same amount was laid out in the o'er changing channels 'a of trade, and w ere t h us contr ib ut i ng to t h e wea lth of the e th ° e nn f u t ni ct t , that Y.---(Hear het in th e c o un ty of Worcester there were but two h ouses assessed at . 2001. per annu m, con sidered to be a property r.) tax B" might that it cannothe kno b sv e n i , arid these to o were occupied fur business purposes. In the county of 11-dforif there were but two assrssed at 170/., a nd yet in that county were to he found Woburn Abb-y, and many other splendid palaces anit m insioret, upon which thousands had been expended. It would be absurd to call it a tax upon property, to say that such a place as Woburn Abbey should be assessed at 170/., whilst the City of London Tavern, paid 141/. 13s. 41, although the whole house was so completely devoted to purposes of business, that the pro prietor and his family did not even take up their abode in it--( Hear.) In Cheapside, the Poultry, and Cornhill, one hundred houses had been taken indiscrimi nately, which were rated at 160/. ; whilst, with the exception of the metropolis, and the principal manu facturing towns, there were not any two counties in England or Wales, which contained an equal number of houses so rated.—(Hear.) In the country there might be found 8,000 houses, such as those of which he had spoken, which had cost in their erection from 2,0001. to 200,000/. each ; but those houses in Cheapside, &c., cost in erection from 1,500/. to 2,000/. ; what then was the cause of this difference, but that it was the trade carried on in them that was taxed—that it was not in operation a property tax, but a tax upon trade and industry?—(Cheers.) Adam Smith seemed to justify the opinion that the value of a man's house was a criterion of his disposable income ; but it must also be recollected that he also said that houses used for purposes of trade were not to be looked upon as mere dwelling houses. Now the majority of the houses from which the tax was levied, were what ha properly called instruments of trade and 'sources of gainful occupation. Although the modification of the window tax proposed by the Noble Lord would afford a small relief to a small por tion of those who suffered, yet it would not remove the objectionable principle on which this tax was founded, for still the highly taxed houses were the residences of the producers, whilst the low taxed houses were the residences of the consumers. Trades men, shopkeepers, and mechanics must live where they could, but the mere consumers could live where they pleased. Competition raised the dwellings of tradesmen to their enormous rent, hut for the mansions of the rich and great there was but small competition.—(Hear.) The possessors of wealth were not confined to a particular pat of a town or to any of the 52 counties of Eng land and Wales, but might go to Paris, to Rome, to Naples, to Florence, and enjoy the wealth in the home of their adoption which they drew from this over-taxed county. The Noble Lord might suppose that shops were the only houses used for the purposes of trade, but such was not the fact, for it was absolutely neces sary for the health of many who resorted during the day to the crowded parts of the town, to hasten to the country in the evening, and spend the night in a purer air. (Hear.) The relief proposed to be given by the Noble Lord to the shopkeepers was as one to ten; whilst the injustice done them, compared with the mere consumers, was as ten to one.—(Hear, hear.) Perhaps the Noble Lord thought that, by tendering a small relief to the shop keepers, he should be probably following up the maxim of divide and conquer with success; but he was mistaken, for the housekeepers throughout the country would unite as one man to oppose this tax, which was unjust in principle, vexatious in its detail, and inquisitorial in its imposition and collection. They were of opinion that no modification of the tax would remove its objectionable principle. They would never, therefore, cease complaining of this tax, and he would never abandon the cause till it was abolished. Having, as he believed, borne out the two propositions which he had laid down at his opening, he would now consider the house tax by itself. It was a moat unjust tax upon trade—an income tax in its most objectionable shape. The income tax, in his opinion, was a heavenly one as compared to that in question, for by it a man only paid upon his real profits—an allowance was made for expenses and bad debts ; but the tax in question was one upon the very house itself in which the trade was carried on. The collector made no allowances for anything likely to happen, but dipped deep into the pockets of the tradesman who was losing by his business, as if he was making his fortune. The t ffeet it had was, first to consume his capital, then his credit followed, and upon its heels ruin and a gaol followed; for a bankruptcy was no protection to -he esta.e, the essil ctinn of these un just and iniquitous) axes having a pre ference over everything. Upon the window taxes he had not much to say, as all he had sail abut toe house duties, applied to those on windows. He woul.l only further state the injurious effect of it upon the health and comfort of the people. In many parts of the metropolis, where old houses t ad been fitted up for the poor, many of the windows were necessarily shut up, and it had leen found to have been most injurious to the health of the people during the late visitation of the cholera. The etra ct of it had been, that builders, finding it impossible to eat esil the law, had been obliged to build their houses so as to meet the law and not the comfort of the people who were to live in them. The first objection which he had heard to the repeal of these taxes was, that the exigencies of the State would not allow of it ; but he had never heard the repeal of any tax met in any other way, therefore that reason was not a valid one. The next was as to the collection ; it appeared that these taxes cost in the collection 5/. 7s. 6d. per 100/., while the indirect taxes were got in at a much less expense. Get rid of them, and then you may also get rid of the whole army of commissioners, collectors, sur chargere,window-peepers, spies, and informers. —( Cheers.) Let these two taxes be taken off, then, and the others might be collected at a much cheaper rate. There could be no greater inconvenience in a gentleman obtaining a license for any individual luxury, than in a tradesman obtaining one to deal in any article, or for acting as an auctioneer. As to the argument that the Minister could not do without these taxes, as he said before, that was the constant cry upon such an occasion ; but he would call upon the House to try the Minister, and no doubt he would find some way of getting a substitute. First of all, the expense of the collection of those taxes was 280,000/. a year; and next, they were peculiarly gathered from the working classes, who, by their repeal, would be greatly relieved, and thereby enabled to expend so much tee more in purchasing the necessaries of life ; and the proportion of income thus let loose would cause a great increase in the consumption of all the necessities and comforts of life.—(Hear, hear.) The House could not be ignorant of the great anxiety manifested by the people for the repeal of these taxes, and he hoped they would not accuse him of tresp dieing too long on their attention, in urging hie proposition.—(Hear, hear.) He thanked them fur the patient hearing they had given hits, and he begged to express his opinion, in which he hoped the House would concur, that these taxes were foijusr, impolitic, and oppressive, shat they distressed trade, fettered industry, and were li able to all the objections that other taxes were liable to, without producing any of the advantages which some taxes produce I. The Hon. Baronet concluded by moving as a resolution of the House—" That that part of the assessed taxes, relating to the house and window taxes, be repealed."—(Cheers.) Mr. Alderman WOOD rose to second the resolution, which a very consida ruble number of his constituents ihotight necessary. and in doing so he felt great satisfac tion. The House would perceive the extraordinary man ner in which those taxes operated, from the fact that he could scarcely pass five houses, in any of the principal streets, but he found one untenanted. Indeed it was stated by a very intelligent member of a deputation that waited on the Noble Lord, that in many of the large public streets, one in every three of the shop. keepers had been either bankrupt, or compounded with bis creditors. It had been said that if the tax were taken off it would only benefit the landlords of houses, and nut the tenants; that was not true, for in most of the streets of business the occupiers in fact were the landlords— at least for a time, as most of the houses were leasehold.--(1 - 1-ar, hear.) As regarded the relief that the Noble Lord had on a former night proposed to afford to shopkeepers, he ( 'alderman Wood) had a great number of Istrers from a large class of persons, complain ing that it would he to them no relief at all. It had been rumoured that the proposition of his Hon. Friend (Sir John Icy) was placed in a peculiar s ituation, for it was to have the support of the landed interes t, mixed with the question of the malt tax, and a threatened property tax ; also, that upon some of those subjects many gentlemen had chanced their minds—(Laughter)—if they had, it would appear very strange, and how they could appear be fore their constiluents he could not tell ; but for his part, if he had so acted he would not face his constituents again.—( A laugh, and a cry, " You were pledged.") He bogged to inform the Hon. Member for Yorkshire that lie was not pledged ; that his constituents had elected him without r quiring a pledge from }inn—knowing him to be an old and, as he hoped, a faithful servant. At a recent meeting in the city of London three propositions were agreed to—the vote by ballot (which an Han. Colleague of his had brought forward, though with no SU etTS3) the present mea-tare which his /ion. Friend (Sir J. Key) was intrusted with—and the shortening of the duration ut Parliaments, which was intrusted to him (Mr. Ald, Wood). f He could conscientiously vote fur ali:Afeitlnee proposition In round numbers he took the property of the country at three thousand millions, and he would at only I per cent. raise as much as would enable the Chancellor of ti e Exchequer to dispense with all our taxce.—(Hear, hear.) He would take off all the taxes with tie Wb e e x hrT ce ise;: p he t al i ls o o n spth o iEna f niA t i h . e taxes on spirits and tobacco, and he would have, he was quite sure, a surplus over expenditure. He was prepared to join the Noble Lord in imposing a tax geoxrnetaraticr,,obdpjecnerattriyyono,f feelany i s . ort, and a tax on income of any sort, provided he took o ff the assessed taxes, and those which generally pressed heavily on the industrious castes of society. He begged leave to second the Hon. Mem nKh nature, ea t , h ea e n n hdo put onue honour which h e e m cmh o a t oen admit r a no n ni and te ofs linable to Lor.l ALTHORP rose and said—As the proposition s grounds on which I very substance of the resolution with • which I shall conclude, to explain to the House the circumst a nces of the a nd the it necessary , plelleedcnatseer,ton taketl:e the course whioh I feel it my to duty adept. Sir, the divisio n w hi c h took place on Friday last l am not going to call a comp l ete surpr i se on the Hou se, because certainly the notice was in the House that the proposi tion should be brought forward; b ut gentlemen must r,- collect that on that evening four notices were on the order books, and every gentleman who knows the forms of the House must know on the question of a Committee of Supply, only two motions can be mode, one on the order of the day, and the other on the motion that the Speaker do leave the chair. Certainly, for my self, I did not expect that the motion of the Honourable Member for Lincolnshire could have been !airtight forward.—(Hear, hear.) The motion, however, of the Honourable Member for Oldham and another was withdrawn, and the consequence was that the Hon. Member forLincolnehire's motion was brought on. The question was supported by gentlemen on different ground-. and I certainly do not think that the decision which took place on that occasion would justify the Govern ment in taking any decided line of policy as indicated by the decision of the House on that occasion. —(Hear, bear.) Ido not think it could have justified Government in changing the whole course of the financial policy of the country, nor would it have justified them in thinking that the ultimate decision of the Him.- was de cidedly against them, and in retiring to make room for others who might be inclined to ((anew them.—(Hear.) On these grounds I certainly feel that the question is placed in a situation of great embarrassment, because I am per fectly ready to admit that it is very objectionable to make the proposition which I shall conclude with, viz., to rescind and alter, to a certain degree, the vote which 'the House came to on that uccasion._(Hear, hear.) But, Sir, I think, in the choice of evils, it is my duty to submit to the consideration of the House the course of proceeding it will be the duty of Government to adopt, supposing that the House perseveres in the course it took on that occasion. —(Hear.) The House shou'd be aware in taking into consideration the alternative; all the consequences of ir._(Hear, hear.) As I stated in the course of the debate on the former occasion, and I did not state it hesitatingly, I really did not think it of any very great consequence, whether the proposition of my Hon. Friend should have been fur a reduction of half or the whole of the malt duty.—(Hear, hear.) On the contrary, I am also prepared to say, if the House concurs that a substitution of other taxa tion should take place, that it would be a wiser course for the House to remove the whole tax—(llear) than to remove the half of the tax on malt. With the same view I look at the question proposed by the Hon. Baronet to night. I think it must be evident to all that it would be utterly impossible in common fairness to the inhabitants of this country, to give so large a relief to one claps of inhabitants without giving a large relief to another class.—(Hear.) Therefore, I do think that if the House does persevere in its resolution to reduce the malt duty, it will be their duty to take into consideration the proposition of the Hon. Barcinet, favourably for its adoption.—(Hear.) And this must necessarily produce an alteration in our financial system. —(Cheers.) Sir, Ido not see bow it is possible for any Gentleman to adopt these propositions without being pre pared to vote for the adoption of a property tax. The Worthy Alderman who has spoken last has avowed his perfect readiness to take that course. Now, I think the House ought to have this fairly placed before them. They ought to consider what the alternative is—they ought to consider whether that alternative is one which in their prudence and discretion they would think it' de sirable to adopt. N o w Ido not think that we ought to adopt a very small property tax, if the system is to he adopted at all—if it is to be adopted, it ought to be adopted as a system, and then it would be desirable not to raise less titan ten or eleven millions by a property tax, as a substitute for the other taxes. In this case I should say, it is quite clear this would be a property tax ap plying generally, as I stated in my resolution for to. night. Now I am not wishing to argue the question whether it would be politic or not to adopt such a course. lam pre. pared to argue, if necessary, that it would be impolitic to adopt such a proposition. But Ido say, I think it would be impossible to produce such a proposition to this House, unless it were proposed to extend it to the United Kingdom. As I have said before, I am not arguing upon the policy of the measure, but I must say that I do not think it would be politic to propose such a tax. Now what is this tax which at the present moment appears so extremely popu lar ? There are many Honourable Members in the House who I am quite sure will remember the feeling that existed with respect to the property tax in 1816. I must confess that I never recollect a tax so un popular as that—(Hear)—and why are we to supuose that it would be more popular now than it was at that time ? Gentlemen talk of alterations and changes, but in my opi nion if the property tax is to be substituted for any large portion of taxation, it is utterly impossible to exempt one class and lay it upon another. I say this would be the grossest injustice.—(Hear, bear, hear.) I have heard gentlemen speak of laying taxes upon pro perty really invested, rent, interest of money, mortgages and annuities, and leaving productive capital entirely exempt. Now I would only ask Hon. Gentlemen to consider the effect of this. Let them look to the case of a small fundholder, living near to a large manufacturer. What would his feelings be to find himself taxed for his little property, while his neighbour, for his great property was not?—(Hear, hear.) It is utterly impossible the House or the Legislature could seriously adopt such a proposition as this. If it was adopted it would be necessary, to apply it to all classes of property in the country.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") How far, I would ask, does this differ from the property tax of 1816, from that prop-rty tax, which every gentleman who recollects it will state to have been a most unpopular tax ? Inquisitorial power bad been spoken of—what in quisitorial power can be greater than that which was exercised with respect to that tax,? It was open to all sorts of imposition and fraud, and consequently despised by the whole country.--(Hear.) The Hon. Member for Britlport, on a former night, had stated, that seeing ob jections to a property tax, he was- prepared to adopt an income tax, and urge-I, very ingeniously and, admitting his measures, very conclusively, that an income tax migbt with great benefi , be made perpetual. How does my rea ly suppose that it would be possible to make, such 8 , tax perpetual with any degree of justice ?—(Bear, hear.) I say the effect of such a measure as 'this would be nee cessarily extremely unpopular, ittiri I am perfectly satisfied, before this tax hail been in operation one or two years, the table of the noose would h e l oa d e d w ith petitions for its repeal. What in such a case as this would be the situation of this country ? You would have repealed a large amount of taxation, and invested the re venue of the country an a system of taxation you aonot maintain, and then, I would ask, what weuld be the situation of the finance, of the country Now, Sir, I do think that to rest the financial reanuic of the country upon such a tax, would be exteernely dangerous. I do not, Sir, know of any proposition for the establishing of such a tax, that would not be o'iectian e :, able in one or other of the ways which I have pointe.i out. If any such should be brought forward . that would he, worthy of the attention of the Howie, I would certainly give it my utmost attention, and, it posSible, my support.—(Hear.) But I repeat that I do not feel any such expectation.—(Hear.) 1 cannot consent that such a large reduction as the one contemplated should take place without the adoption of a property tax, and this view I have embodied in the first portion of my motion ; and the second portion of it goes to show, that the adoption of a property-tax at this time is inex pedient.—(Hear.) I do not conceive, Sir, that in a ny future Hon. Gentlemen will find themselves bound, perry tax, by supporting this resolution. firstfu nreerro":"lnge,i discussion of the propriety of putting n . :_ ffu , an _p id _ r o e.. ; It has, Sir, been assumed, that, in this the Parliament, direction of f e t e the . 11ni:urs b g l o „ f ae th i e n fluence the opini ons of —(Hear.) Now, Sir, w I am free to a of the Ailmin , s • • tration, I am not bound to abide by the House rnayd have e 1 re u P ;h l n a t e; a lPl e s n: I:Ygl i ii n an a ii l :fi i -t v nr i rat d nh u eta a i l raeal A b l as e t m r a be t ; ay e x p re ssion of the opinion of this House. If may be ,aid n that by the form of my motion I unite ag inst me contrary opinions. I admit that I have united against me those who are in favour of a property tax, tl - ose who are is tavour of the repeal of the malt duty, these who are