The Sun. — London, England, 1854-02-22 00:00:00

SHARE MARKETS. (THIS DAY.) BRITISH RAILWAYS. Irata RAILWATS. Closing Prices this day. Buaineis done this day. Aberdeen . Ambg. Nottng. Bost, and Eastn. Janet... Belfast & Ballymena. Binning. Wolverh. Stour Valley Birkenhd. L a nesh. & Cheshire Junct Do. Chesh. & Birk , £5O and £25 Cons. Do., £20.... Blyth &Tyne original £25 (issd. at £45) Bristol and Exeter... Caledonian Chester & Holyhead. Cork and Bandon... Cork, Black, & Pass Cornwall Crieff Junction Dublin&BelfastJunc Dundee Perth&Aber• deen Jungtion Do. New ...... East Anglian.... Do., (£lB E & H) Eastern Counties Eastern Union, A Stock Do., B. Stock Do., New A East Lancashire Edinburgh & Glasgow Edinb. and Peebles Edin. Prth. &Dundee Forth & Clyde June. Glasgow & S. Westernl Great Northern Stk. Do., A. Stock Do., B. Stock Gt. Sth. &West.(lre.) Great Western [rish South-Eastern Lancaster & Carlisle Do., Thirds Do. New Thirds Lancash.andYorksh Do., Fifths Do., Wst. Riding Un Leeds Northern Liv.Crsby.&Southpt London & Blackwell Lond. Tilb. &Sthend. Lond. Bright & S.Cst. Lond. and N. Westn. Do. Fifths Do.lol. Sh. ,M&8...0 Do. Eighths London andS. Westn Do., £5O Do., £4O Lnndrry& Coleraine Lndndrry. & Ennisk. qanch. Shef. & Lincln Do., Man. & Lin. Un. Midland Do. Birmng. & Derby Midld. G. West. (Ira.) Do. Half Shares Newcastle & Carlisle Newmarket Do., Bury Extension Nwpt.Aberg. & Hrfd 1 Newry & Enniskillen' Newry Warrenpoint and Rostrevor. Norfolk Northn.Counties Un North British North Devon, No. 1 Do., No. 2 Do., A A Deferred Do., B Guaranteed, North London Do. New £lO N. &S. and City Jn North Staffordshire North Western N. & S. Westrn. June Nuneaton, Hinckley, and Leicester Oxford, Worcester, & Wolverhampton Portsmouth Scottish Central Scottish Midland Shrewsbury &Bi mg Do. L. & N. Western Guaranteed St &bk Shrewsby. & Herefd Shrewsby. & Chester (N. W. Min ; Do. Halveso. Do. Oswestry Shropshire Union Do. A, B, C,& D,fully paid up at per cent South Devon South Eastern South Wales S. Yrksh. & Riv. Dun Do Staines, Wok &W ok Stockton & Darling. Stockton & Hartlepl Taff Vale Do. £lO shares. Do. Pref., No. 1 Thames Haven Dock and Railway Vale of Neath Waterfd. & Kilkenny Waterford&Limerick West Cornwall. West End of London and Crystal Palace West London Wimbledn & Croydon York Newctl. &Berw. Do. Extensions Do. G.N.E. Purchase York & N. Midland 49 - - lA.berdeen IDo. No. 2, 7 p. c. Blyth and Tyne 10 per c. pref. (issd. at 500 Bris. & Ex. 4 p. c. St. Do. 4 p. c. Shares Caledonian £lO Chester & Holyhead Guar. 5 per cent Cork &Bandonsip.c Dundee Perth &Aber deen Junction _ East Anemia (1310 s) 6 per cent Do. (£5) 7 per cent Do. (£7l7s) 7 p. c Eastern Counties Ex tension, 5 p. c. No. 1 Do. No. 2 Do. New 6 p. c. St Eastern Union, Scrip Guar. 6 per cent Do. 51., 10 per cent. Do. 101. Debentr.Sh- FAst Lancash.6 p. cts. East and West York shire June. Pref... EdinbPrth.&Dundee 5i per cent. Glasgow & S. Western Guar. 5 per cent Great Northn. 5 p. c Do. 5 p. c. Redeem., at -10 p. c. prem... Do. 4i p. c. Scrip .... Gt.N. of Scot. Ist Prof Gt, Sonthn.&Westm. (Ireland) Eighths)... Do. 4 per c. Pref. Sh. Gt. Westn. (Berks Hants Ex. 5 p. c)... Do. coy. red. 4 p.a. Do. con. red. 4 p. c. Do. irred. 4 p. c.... Can. &York. F. £2Ol Do. 6 p. c. Stock.. Leeds N. 6 p. c. No. l Do. Quarters, 1848... London and Brighton Guaranteed 5 p. Do. Pref., 5 p. c. St. Do. Convertible, 5 p. c., 1852............... Do. New Guar.6 P. C. Lon. &N. W., Coy. & Nuneaton . . ......... London & S.. Western Con. Thirds ... . ... Londonderry& Coler. Shares Londy. & Ennis. iSh • Man., Shef., & in., Shares, No. 1. I Do. New, £lO Do. £6 Harypt & Carl. 4 p.c Do. 4i per cent Do Hid. Consol.6 p.c.St Do. Consol. Bristol Si Birm. 6 per cent Do. Pref. 4i per cent Norfolk Debenture .. Do. Prof. 4 p. c. Stock Do. 5 p. c. Eat Do. 5 fper ct.pref Do. Way. Val. 5 p. c North British North Staffordshire Oxford, Worcester, dz. Wolverh.Xls, 6 p.c. Do Scot. Cent. , New Pref Shrews. &Birm.N.G. Sbrewsby. & Chester (Nor.W.Min), 8 p.c. Do. 5 per cent South Devon De. fixed, 46 per cent S. Eastern (Reading Ann.) of £1 Os. 6d. Do. 4 per cent. S.Yorksh.4p.c.Gnar. Stockton and Dar lington, 4 per cent. Do. do. do. Stockton and Hartle pool, guar. 5 p. c. till Ist July, 1856 Waterfd.&Kilk. 6 p.c. York, Newcastle,and Berwick,4 p.c. Pref. IDo York&N.MidlandH, and S, Purch„ 70 3d 7“, 50 1 PREFERENCE SHARES. 99 = ith. 61 - 6i 3 - 31 4 - 4t i - i P, 1 -- lip i -- 13 -- 14 l8p 22. 23,3 .. ..."-.. ... 2i - 3i iii -i•1 1109 -111 1 #--4P 8 - 8i 6 - 7 99 100 90 95 93 95 id par 137 139 ...-' I. 2i - 3 12 -_-_- "13 6i 7 6 9 9. par i P 1.37 139 1 11 id ... - .. 100 - 102 iPml 9 16 . 16 - 1671 9 i -- 104 - 14 .. p 231 - 24 17 - 19 elm """ .., "'"' ... •-••• 11 ...... 94 - 97 3i 4 `44 20 - 204 4i 7-'" 5i 8 - 9 11 9 cusl 17 19 6 54c1 90 - 95 54i - 554 154 - 164 13 - 131 4b -- 46 - ii =. iii 6 - 67 60 - 61 a = ii 129 - 99 - 82i - 92 - 95 12i -13 p 12 - 13 p 651 - 661 7 -- . - ... 13 - 13,i 8i -- 81 par 96 -- 97 p LO4 - 1041 P g F d 80 -- 82 9 -- 8d 10i -94 d : 224 - 63 - EN% 36 - 36 55 57 d par 24 3 6 - 8 47 - 50 1 31 3)0 32 ... 33 8 10 -2, 6 - 7A 53 - 55 6 - 8 - 33 - 35 89 91 54 - 56 55 - 60 55 60 3 2 d 15 -- 17 7i -- 8 i 11 -- 13 3/ 3id 14 - 16 62 E 3 33 33 2 d par 5 7= a. - 2i 15t 15i 51 - 5t 24 - 26 6 - 7 6 - 7 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 17 11i all all all 100 42i 34 all 100 100 474 174 all 100 25 1 50 20 St. 16 16 8 8 50 10 10 2/ 2s 100 100 100 100 all 100 all 15 2/ 2s all 16i 100 all 51s. 100 20 St. St. St. St. 20 10 25 10 1.0.61 all all 100 all all' all 100 100 100 100 100 100 100 FOREIGN. Antwerp&Rotterdam Belgian Eastn. June Beziers to Graissessae Bombay, Baroda, and Central In dia,Serip Central of Italy Charleroi & Erqueiiu Demerara Dij ou and Besancon Dutch Rhenish East Indian Do. Extension Gt. Indian Peninsula Gd. Junct. of France Grd. Trunk of Canada Do. Debentures Do. do Gt. Central of France Gt.Westernof Canada Shakes Do. Bonds (Ist is.)'s7 Hamilton &- Toronto Do. 6 per cent. L a ke Coust. & Basle Lucca & Pistoja 5 p.c. pref Luxembourg (Railway)... Pref. Do. (Canal) Do. 6 p. ct. pref Lyons and Geneva ,Lyons & Mediterran Nfaclras Maria Antonia Do. do. New . Melbourne Dk. & Ry Namur & Liege (with interest) Do. (ex interest) Northern of France Do. 201. 3 p. c Bds (fmy. B. & Ams. Shs.) NorwegianTrunkPref Paris and Lyons Ditto Bonds ..... . Paris and Orleans Paris and Rouen Pails and Strasbourg ParisCa,en & Cherbrg Quebec & Richmond Rouen and Havre Royal Danish Royal Swedish Sambre and Meuse Do. 5. p. cent. Pref ' Southern of France St. Andrew's and Quebec (A) West Flanders Do. 52 per c. Pref Western of France West. of Switzerland Wiesbaden Zealand 3z— 3d 1 14 4 3d par i p . P 3 2id 2i 2ip - P - - ... ---- •• 2 2 d 4 -ip - -1P clis 61 7} 4t 1 1 1 1 id id- i p 7k 7i 28 - 29 .. - ... 74 - 8i 12 -14 p 41 —43 34 —36 xd 28 -28 i Pm 3 1 d 176 —18 i ld par . d 81 a • PM 3, __ 4} 2 - 2i p 5 - 4 1 4 P d 4 d i P 1 d 24 is 9 11 i— i d 7 9xd 5 6 li 24 28 30 i- i d 42 44xd par— A p 11 13 60 70 4 6 p li 21 13 - 15 id -- Par lt d 10i -11 i g * (11 64 6i I — 1d Id— ii P 17 19 i— # d i— 0 P 28 30 S 10 4a d 4 5 3 3a id d d - LLOYD'S SHIPPING.-(THIS DAY.) LONDON, Feb. 22.—Wind this day at Noon, S.W. moderate breeze, and cloudy weather. RAMSGATE, Feb. 21.—Wind, N.N.E. Arrived—lrene, from Dordt, for Hull, with loss of sails. MARGATE, Feb. 21.—Arrived—Maria Ann, from Tagan rog ; Sultan, St. Michael's ; Puzzle, do. DOVER, Feb. 21.—Wind, N. to E.N.E. Arrived—Joven Claudia, from klavannah, for Hamburgh, with loss of bul warks, decks swept, and other damage. COWES, Feb. 21.—Wind, E. Arrived—Falcon, from London, for Bombay. HARWICH, Feb. 20.—Arrived—Acheen, London for Bridlington, with loss of anchor and chain; Laurel, Lon don, with loss of anchor and 50 fathoms of chain ; Ark, do. for Hull, with part of bulwarks and two stanchions carried away, having been in collision with the Hawk, of Cromer. Sailed—Elizabeth Lewis, Melbourne, after re pairing. LOWESTOFFE, Feb. 21.—Arrived—Kezia, London for the north, with loss of anchors; Oakhampton, ditto for Shields, and assisted in, with loss of anchors; Shepherd, ditto for Middlesboro' , with loss of anchors and chain , ; Venus, ditto for Newcastle, with loss of anchors. BRIDLINGTON, Feb. 20.—A stout brig, supposed laden, was ashore on the south side of Flamborough Head, on the morning of the 14th Feb., but was got off by her crew; she left a kedge and 100 fathoms of warp behind, which were recovered, and are in charge of the Receiver of Droitshare. WARKWORTH, Feb. 21.—The Science, which drove in here and capsised has been got up and brought further up the harbour. CuomEn, Feb. 21.—A ship's boat, with Marquis of Wel lington, of Brixham, on the indde of the stern, was towed ashore here last night. • QUEENSTOWN, Feb. 20.—Wind, N.N.W. Arrived — Lady Chapman, from Bermuda; Bussorah Merchant, Blyth, Portsmouth, both for troops. Sailed—Gloucester, for Hobart Town ; British American, Savannah. Off Port—Adam Lodge, from Callao, and sailed for London. PORTSMOUTH, Feb. 22.—Wind, N.E. to S. Arrived — Herman de Ray ter, from Batavia for Amsterdam, with loss of foretopmast head, topgallantmast, and topmast rigging, jibboom, headgear, &c.; Helena Sophia, from Shields for Bermuda, leaky and with loss of jibboom. PLYMOUTH, Feb. 21.—Wind, N.E. Arrived—Fortune, from London for Adelaide, S.A.; Parsee, do., for Mel bourne. FALMOUTH, Feb. 21.—Wind, N.E., moderate breeze. Arrived—Lusitano, from Pernambuco, with fore and main masts sprung ; Catharina, Alexandria ; Trefleg, do.; Sil wrian, do.; Flor de Maid, Pernambuco; Rapid, Alexan dria and Plymouth. Off Port—Colonist, from Rio Ja neiro, and sailed for Liverpool. SHIELDS, Feb. 20.—The vessel reported yesterday as having struck on the Haid Sand, was the John Baker, from Boulogne, but she scarcely touched ; two steam-tugs being at hand, she was taken in tow, and saved from fur ther danger. TRooN, Feb. 20.—The Agnes, of Garlieston, got very much damaged 17th Feb., and will have to go into dock. The Darnhall, of Belfast, had topmast and bowsprit carried away. ANTWERP, Feb. 21.—The Alberdina, from Bordeaux to Amsterdam with wine, was stranded, 18th Feb., off Loos dumen ; crew saved. PARIS, Feb. 21.- The Lucy, from Nantes to Bordeaux, has put into Royan leaky, and was discharging. (BY SUBMARINE AND EUROPEAN TELEGRAPH.) GRAVESEND, Wednesday, 10.15 s.m. Wind, S. ; tide, 2 hours' ebb • very fine. Arrived, 21st—Ernst Moritz Arndt, from New Orleans ; oo9uetta, Santander. Arrived-22d—Little Jemmy, from St. Michael's ; Ann Logan, Alexandria ; Lusitania, Oporto ; Chieftain, Callao ; Mary, Smyrna ; Panther (s), Ostend; Batavia (s), Rot terdam. Sailed—Isabella Blyth, for Mauritius , Odessa, Deme rara ; Seine (s), Boulogne ; Belgium (s), Ostend. DEAL, Wednesday, 9.0 a.m. Wind, W.S.W. ; very fine. Passed—Agenoria, from St. Michael's, for London ; Gomelza, Bombay, for London. Sailed—Flying Childers, for the river ; Harvest, for do. Put back—Paragon, for Havre. MARKET NEWS-(THIS DAY.) CORN EXCHANGE. To -dys wheats. was very scantily supplied w ith h ome grown All kinds sold readily a t th e extreme To-day's market rates of Monday, and a clearance was readily effected. Most of the importers of foreign wheat demanded more enswe. money; hence, the business doin g was not eat • Prices, however, were fully supported. Floating cargoes so ld steadil y , at full q uotatio ns. We had an impr oved in q uiry for barley, at extreme rates. There was only a moderate inquiry for malt on former terms. The oat trade was firm, and there was more dig osition p shown to purchase flour. Beans and peas were dull on sale. ___ ARRIVALS THIS WEER. Wheat. 1 Barley. I Malt. 1,070 ) 2,710 80 Oath. 160 3,270 3,040 Flour. 1,320 English .. Irish .. • . Foreign .. 4,610 I 4,950 1,570 sks 1,700 bri WHITECFIAPEL. About an average business has been doing, as follows : Beef from 3s Od to 4s 8s; mutton, 3s 2d to 4.8 8d veal, 3s 10d to 4s 10d ; pork, 3s 4d to 4s 10d. per Blbs by the carcase. BOROUGH HOP. The demand for most kinds of -hops is steady, at lasi week's cuxeney, .0 7 5I 3 I all L 7 all 5i all 5 71 0 30 0 all :Oi 15 /0 all 5 I all .0 10 5 2 5 3 .0 5 !O 8 .0 - all' ;0 2 l 0 all n 1 all .6 I all !O all LO all !O 10 LO all LO all !O all !O all .oi 110, 5I 2 ;0 all 0 I 6 ;0 6 si all LO all !O 10 [0 5 !Co 2 !CI 15 1 all 1 I all Agua Fria Anglo Austrin. Gold :Anglo Californian Australasian Australian _Australian Cordillera Australian Freehold Ave Maria Udell (Gd. Duchy of) Blaenarvon Ir. & Coal isritish Austrin. Gold i3ritish Iron Brazilian Imp. (issued at .C 5 pm Do. Cocaes & Cuiada Do. St. John Del Rey Carson's Creek . Clarendon Con. Min. Co. of Jamaica Cobre Copper Colonial Gold Copiapo Copper MM. of Eng Do. Pref. 1 4. p. cent English and Austrin Copper Smeltg. Co General Great Nugget Vein Do. Registered Great Polgooth Liberty Linares Lond. &Californ. Gold Quartz Crush. Co Mariquita Mexican&S.Ammicn New Granada New Linares Mining and Smelting Co Nouveau Monde Pontgibaud Silver Lead Min. & Smelt. Port Philip Quartz Rock Rhymney Iron Do. Now Santiago de Cuba ' south Australian ' Tin Croft United Mexican Waller West Granada West Mariposa Worthing Mining of Australia all Yuba .0 2 ;0 6 1 all 1. all 1 all 1 all 1 all ;0 13.5, 15 246 1 i 1 6 5 all 5 all 10 all 2 all 2 all 3 all 1 all 3 all 1 all 1 all .0 9 1 all 1 all 1 I all ;0 all 51 1 1 1 all io iO 1 all LO 7 !Fii all 1 all 1 all 1 all 1 12s. 55f 4 5i 4i 15i 13 i 13 92 )1 3 76 tai 80 1291 i 82i i 3 66i i H 96i 6 i 100 23 2i 3i 63 i 93 80 131 101 83 33 2i 114 i n xd 1 69 i 1 128 198 i li pm pm 13t 14 1171 140 138 1 dig ...."--- ' 1 THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 22, 1854. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. neglect by the Government of this questiOn. He did not care whether this was to be treated as a private or a public bill, but he cared a great deal for the principle of the bill, and trusted that so important a measure would not be put aside by a paltry dispute whether it ought to be a public or a private bill according to the forms of Parliament. What was the provisions of the bill ? That education ought to be universal. To be universal it ought to be religious, but the religious teaching ought to be given in a fair and tolerant manner. It was because he believed that this bill would do that that he gave it his most cordial adhesion, and his opi nion was that this bill was, without exception, the most important measure on the subject of education that had ever been submitted to Parliament, and it acquired ten fold importance from the extraordinary part which her Majesty's Government had taken in this question of edu cation. When they took office last year they introduced a bill on the subject, but it did not even get to a second reading. Now the noble lord told them that this general measure was totally forgotten. They had instea of it a reform bill, which nobody wanted, and now that it was ' come nobody cared for, with a fanciful device for re presenting the minority, instead of a bill for providing education. The noble lord dwelt on the advantages of the present system of education. (Hear, hear.) He (Sir John Pakington) thought it perfectly clear that the present system did not meet the demands of the people. We had no system of education deserving the name of national. He should like to see in every parish a Church of England school teaching church doctrines to all who were willing, but, in the case of dissenting families who had children, that these children should be allowed, to come to the school, and if the parents made themselves responsible for the reli gious teaching of those children, that the scruples of those children should be respected. Would religion suffer by that ? On the contrary, he believed it would be greatly promoted. At King Edward's School, Bir mingham, which had on au average 1,200 scholars, this system had been adopted when the present Bishop of Manchester was at the head of the school ; and the re sult was, that there were pupils of almost every religious denomination in the school. Where schools were esta blished in destitute districts, where no sectarian schools existed, he would have them conducted on the principles of the established church, as was done in the pauper district schools, care being taken not to force Church of England doctrines on dissenting children whose parents objected to their being so taught. In that respect he did not altogether approve of the plan of this bill ; but with that exception be thought it the noblest measure of education that had ever been laid before the house. Mr. BRIGHT said that the right hon. gentleman in his opening observations seemed to think that the pro moters of this bill had some right to complain of the course which he (Mr. Bright) and his colleague had taken in respect to it. Now, those with whom he (Mr. Bright) acted did not blame in the slightest degree the course taken by the advocates of the bill. The fact was that the forms and rules of this house would not allow such a bill as this to be brought in as a public bill, and therefore no blame could be attached to its promoters for making it a private bill. (Hear, hear.) At the same time, the obvious requirements of the people of Manchester were such as to make it impossible that such a question could be dealt with by a private bill. He was not willing to admit that the promoters of this bill were the only persons that advocated the esta blishment of a system of education at Manchester. The movement in favour of such a system had been some years in existence in Manchester, and had commenced with the opponents of this bill. The present measure was one that had been brought forward in opposi tion to the plan advocated by the great majority of the people in Manchester. His party knew very well that they could not carry the measure they advo cated by a private bill, and they, therefore, had never attempted to do so. They felt that this was not the way to get this important question settled. The right hon. gentleman who spoke last appeared disposed to re. pudiate the authority of a corporation of a great city, because he said that it was not appointed for educational purposes. He (Mr. B.) did not:know that he was elected for educational purposes, and yet he felt he was entitled to express an opinion upon the subject. If any one municipal body was capable of expressing the opinions of the community, he should say it would be admitted to be the corporation of Manchester. He believed that every person who knows the proceedings of that body since it was first established, would admit that there was no town in the United Kingdom more indebted to the enlightened labours of the members of the corporation than that of Manchester. But what did this bill ask ? It asked Barliament, under the modest guise of a pri vate bill, to tax the ratepayers of Manchester to an amount estimated at no less a sum than 40,0001. or 50,0001. a-year. Now, he would ask the right hon. gentleman if he (Mr. B.) had brought in a bill to extend the same principle to the county of Worcester, and to lay the expense of carrying it upon the county rate ; to appoint a district school committee, and to give power to draw upon the county treasurer for 50,0001. or 100,000/. a-year ; and if such bill were opposed by every magistrate of the county, would the right hon. gentle man be disposed to support such a measure ? Why, the thing was monstrous and incredible. The present bill had never been submitted to a single public meeting in Manchester, nor had it been circulated amongst the members of this house. He confessed be could not un derstand how any one who valued representative insti• tutions or the maintenance of peace and concord of a great community should, because it was called an edu cation bill, snap at the first thing of the kind that offered, although obstacles of an insurmountable char acter stood in the course the promoters of the bill recommended the house to pursue. The measure pro posed to establish, by a system of district voting, ac cording to Sturges Bourne's Act, a district school com mittee, who would be empowered to demand those local rates for the support of the existing schools at Manches ter, under the present management, but for the benefit of the whole population of that city. The bill proposed that the whole of the children in Manchester should be educated at those schools—that the children of the rich, of the middle, and of the working classes should all re ceive the like instruction if they chose to go to those schools. Now that was different to the system which the corporation were in favour of. When this proposi tion was before the corporation of Manchester there was an amendment moved, containing an expression of opi nion strongly opposed to this bill ; but, in order to secure perfect unanimity, those words were withdrawn, and the petition commented upon in the course of this discus sion was agreed to. This petition could not be presented to this house, and he supposed that it lay in one of those small rooms which Sir Charles Barry had built for the concealment of such documents. (Laughter.) He asked whether it would be proper that a question of this im portance was to be settled by the gentlemen of the long robe up stairs ? (Hear, hear.) It was said that this was to be a model bill. They had already obtained a bill for Ireland, and he believed, next week, they were to have a bill for Scotland. Why should they not take those bills as model bills? When they had bills for two important portions of the United Kingdom, why should they not have a bill for England and Wales ? (Hear.) If even the house consented to pass this measure, the bill could not work. Did they think that the passing of such a bill in the face of sixty municipal councillors, al dermen, and mayor of Manchester —that its provisions could be carried out ? What was the theory which the bill adopted ? Why, that every man—whatever his reli gious opinions might be—should contribute directly and annually to the teaching of every other religious opinion in Manchester—some of those opinions he believed to be destructive— all of them to be erroneous. He observed the hon member for Warwickshire (Mr. Spooner) look ing at him with amazement while he uttered this obser vation. They had not heard of any of that honourable member's propositions this year as yet ; but he (Mr. Bright) would fully admit that the hon. gentleman was most conscientious in his notions. But he did not believe that even with the peculiar views which the hon. member held that he would be disposed to pay a rate under the circumstances required by this bill. (Hear, hear.) He (Mr. B) felt that he could not pay a rate under this bill without the same violence to his feelings as the payment of a church rate would involve. If this bill were to pass in any shape, he believed it would have the effect of importing into Manchester the evils of a church rate, which had been already abolished, and of causing such a revulsion in the public mind with regard to education, that, instead of promoting education, it was his honest opinion that a system of education would be postponed for many years. He was a strong advo cate of a sound system of education. He, however, thought that the problem would never be worked out by a bill of this sort, brought in by persons unconnected with Manchester, and which was in opposition to the views of the corporation of that city. He was of opi nion that the proper course to take would be to with draw this bill, and all those who were interested in the ' question would probably at no distant period agree upon a measure which would receive general approbation. Such measure should be a general one—should legislate very little, but should give permissive powers, some what extensive, to the various corporations in the county, or other authorities, to be determined according to the peculiar circumstances of each place. He was not against experimental education in Manchester ; but that was not to be tried by such a bill as the present. He was extremely anxious for this great question to be put in a train of settlement, and he was ready to afford his best aid towards the attainment of this object. With these views he asked the house to reject the second read ing of this bill. Mr. BALL might be excused in addressing to the house a few words upon this subject, when the right hon. member for Droitwich (Sir J. Packington) who had expressly warned the house against long speeches, found it necessary to take up an hour with his remarks. (Laughter.) He rose to adduce one fact to which he begged attention of the house. In Great Smith-street was a reformatory institution in which were received 100 felons. By a statistical statement, .in connection with this institution, it appears that merely secular education did not prevent crime, for 83 out of every 100 had been educated in secular matters. As the accounts well ob served, "You might as well expect to make a good musician by training his eye, a good painter by training the ear, as to expect to make a man moral by teaching him to read and write and cast accounts." Mr. WALPOLE would say a few words, more upon the inconvenient position of the matters before the house than upon the principle upon it that matter stood. Two important principles were involved in the bill, first, the imposition of a compulsory system of rating for the purposes of education, and, secondly, the taking of endowed schools from the objects proposed by their founders. The imposition of a compulsory rate for the purposes of education would have all the incon venience and unpleasantness of a church rate with out that prescriptive usage which was attached to the latter. The manner in which the bill would operate to set aside the intentions of the founders of en dowed schools was this :—lt was proposed that children might be sent to these schools, and yet be at liberty not to attend to those religious duties which had been annexed to the school Dy its founder, In process of time grees have founded schools, have contributed their own money to the support of those schools, have laid down their own rules of managemeut, and have appointed persons of their own connections to conduct them from time to time, and to take care that those rules of ma nagement are not infringed. (Hear.) This being done, the Government and the Legislature have stepped in, and have said, "As you are agreed in your general system of education, and as you support that system with your own money, we will contribute such sums from time to time as will enable you to improve the character of the education you give, and to perform the better the task which you have undertaken for your selves, and we will provide for a general inspection of your schools, in order that you may be able to raise them to the height of the very best conducted schools in this country." (Cheers.) This system you will call an imperfect system. (Hear, hear.) It is not such as any one, laying down a theory of national education, would propose as the best that could be devised ; but it is a very intelligible system—it is a very practical system — and it is a system which, by experience, has been found to extend the amount of education, and to improve its character in a very great degree. (Hear, hear.) But according to this bill, as I understand it, the ratepayers are, by means of a board which they are to establish, to undertake to pay the whole expense of the schools. (Hear.) They are to become free schools, and they are likewise, one and all, to be obliged to admit persons as pupils, who do not conform to the rules, with respect to religious teaching which the several managers have laid down. (Hear, hear.) Still it is proposed to be provided that the schools shall continue under the same manage ment as heretofoi e. (Hear, hear.) It seems to me that there will be great difficulty in carrying out that system. (Hear, hear.) I can understand that men may devote themselves with great satisfaction to the management of schools to the funds of which they have contributed their 11., or 21., or 51., or 101. every year. (Hear, hear.) I can understand their saying, "We have founded these schools in conjunction with some of our neighbours who agree with us in opinion." Whether they be members of the Church of England, or Dissenters, or whatever else they may be, I can understand their saying, "We are agreed as to the rules by which these schools are to be governed, and we will attend them from week to week, and from month to month, to see that they are perfectly conducted according to that system which we conscientiously believe to he the best ; " but when you say that these persons shall no longer contribute their money, and that the rules which they have laid down as the best shall be open, in particular cases, to exceptions, it seems to me that they will cease to take the interest which they have taken hitherto that they will cease to perform from week to week that duty of superintendence which is now a labour of love—and that you will, therefore, no longer be able to depend on their continued attention to the management of the schools. (Hear, hear,) It appears to me, sir, that, upon that subject, there would be this difficulty in carrying out the very laudable object in view. (Hear, hear.) My right honourable friend the member for Morpeth (Sir George Grey) has suggested that a permissive bill should be introduced in the nature of a public bill, to permit committees to set up schools according to one system, or according to several systems. (Hear, hear.) Well, sir, if there is a desire in Man chester to establish schools of that kind, I think that such a measure would be better—seeing the objec tion made by the town council—than urging any further progress in the bill before the house. (Hear, hear.) I am afraid it will be long before we shall be able to ob tain a national system of education in which there shall be anything like uniformity. (Hear, hear.) My hon. friend the member for Montrose appears to think that there is no difficulty in the matter which might not be easily got rid of by a very simple exercise of the powers of the Government. He says that if the Government would only make up its mind to such a system as he proposed for the establishment of schools for secular education over the whole country, leaving the religious teaching to the clergy and to the ministers of the dif ferent dnominations, the question might be settled at once. I think, iu the first place, that there would be great objections on the part of this house to entertain such a proposal ; and I think, in the second place, that if this house and if Parliament could be induced to as sent to such a scheme, there would be great repugnance on the part of the country to adopt it. (Hear, hear.) And, sir, I have never been able to persuade myself that that secular scheme which seeks to get rid of the religious difficulty would be suited to the people of this country, or that we should be acting in con formity with our duty in endeavouring to promote it. (Hear, hear.) It seems to me that religion is a thing not apart from, but connected with, secular instruction. —(cheers)—and that it is one of the very first things which in teaching the poor of this country, you ought to teach because by so doing you will be teaching them what they are to do in their progress through life ; and if you instruct them simply in reading and writing, in geo graphy, and history, and arithmetic—if you do not tell them what their duty is—if you do not make them un derstand the obligations which they owe to God and man—you 'do not perform the office you have under taken, and leave the work of education incomplete. I think the notion that one part of this work may be left to the schoolmaster, and the other to the clergyman or minister, is a very unpractical one. It is impossible that the clergy or the ministers of any other denomina tion can have time, without becoming schoolmasters themselves, to attend daily at the school, and to give the sort of instruction which is contemplated. I see, therefore, not only great difficulty, but great objection to the introduction of such a plan. It has been stated that there are three systems of education—the vo luntary, the denominational, and thesecultr— at present before the country ; and that the selection and adoption of any one of these systems would get over the difficulty. But every one of these plans is full of difficulties of its own. The denominational plan is subject to many dif ficulties wh - ch are hardly got over even in the plan at present entertained, of giving grants of public money ; and when you come to raise a rate, you will find those difficulties increased tenfold. I will put the case of a parish where the inhabitants are chiefly churchmen, or where the dissenters are not so numerous as to justify the establishment of a separate school on their own ac count. In that case what are you to do ? Are you to establish a school according to the national plan in which every child is required to go to church and to learn the catechism ? Would the dissenter not think it hard to be required to contribute by a rate to the maintenance the school under such circumstances as these? Then, again, there are a number of Roman Catholics in the country, whose opinions would hardly be satisfied, unless separate schools for Roman Catholic children were established ; and, on the other hand, there are a great many Protestants to whose feelings it would be very repugnant to pay rates for the support of Roman Catholic schools. The difficulties, in deed, are so numerous that I might occupy half an hour in stating them, but I only wish it to be understood that it is not from mere neglect upon the part of the Govern ment that the difficulties laid in the way of the settle ment of this question have not been removed, and that there are really grave reasons why we should pause be fore we attempt to introduce and to carry out such a system as that to which I have referred. (Hear, hear.) Before I sit down, I wish to say that I have been mis apprehended with respect to something that I said upon the subject of education in Scotland. (Hear, hear.) I said that it was absolutely necessary to legislate upon that subject ; that a bill would be introduced by the Lord Advocate, and that an opportunity would be afforded for ascertaining the opinion of the house, on the discussion which would take place upon it. (Hear, hear.) I did not say that I should he prepared to recommend the exten sion of the same measure to England, because a plan which might be very suitable for one country might be very unsuitable for the other. (Hear, hear.) The result, therefore, to which I come is this. I think that the house can hardly, in the face of the strong protest. against the passing of a private bill upon this subject on the part of the town council of Manchester, put the people of Man chester to the expense of going before a committee. I think there is a great deal of good in this bill, and that it is a most praiseworthy attempt. I cannot vote with my right hon. friend the member for Manchester upon the motion which he has submitted to the house ; and I think we must pause some time before any general and uniform system of education can be carried out. (Hear.) Mr. J. G. PHILLIMORE did not for one moment wish to diminish the importance of religious education, but in his opinion religious education was purely a do mestic matter, and ought not to be permitted to interfere with the passing of a bill like this. It was desired by the great majority of the people of Manchester ; and after the time and money which had been spent upon it, the house would be acting unjustly if it rejected the measure on the ground urged by the right hon. gentleman who had moved the amendment. Mr. W. J. FOX observed that the object of this bill was to promote, expand, and endow what was called the denominational system of education, and that system was one which, in his belief, could never be brought into harmony with the opinions of mankind. It was true that the people of this country were a religious people and that they desired that education should bear a re ligious character, but did any man desire such education to bear the stamp of a religion which he believed to be not only erroneous but pernicious ? And what had been the fruits of this denominational system ? Looking at our prison returns, he there found f ac t s w hi c h cou ld hardly be conceived. The numbers of criminals who had been and who had not been to schools were given, and he found that education as administered, had not proved such a barrier against crime as would be supposed. His remark did not apply to Ireland, for under the admirable system in force there, which went on the principle that while religious education was not neglected, the mind should be opened and the faculties developed, the num bers of criminals receiving such education were con tinually diminishing ; but religion, without general knowledge, was most apt to degenerate into fanaticism or superstition. It was said that one in 8i of the popu lation attended schools ; but what said the return of the registrar general of marriages for 1851 ? Why that of the 300,000 persons married in that year only 117,000 of the number could write their names, but made their mark. Our education, then, was what was vulgarly called a "sham," and what he recommended was that the govern ment should endeavour to carry out the suggestion of a right rev. prelate, uttered about a year ago at a meeting of the Church School Societyin Ireland, with respect to the establishment of a sound system of secular educa tion. They could at best but make the schoolmaster a very imperfect religious missionary, by substituting his religious teaching for that sort of work which he might be able to accomplish with credit to himself and useful ness to the community. On those grounds he should refrain from voting for the second reading of the bill ; while at the same time he thought the local objections were such as not to allow of the bill being further pro ceed with. Sir J. PAKINGTON expressed his deep dissatisfac tion at the speech of the noble lord (Lord J. Russell), and his regret that the noble lord had left the house, and that no other member of the Government was pre seat which he thought they might take as a proof of the HOUSE OF COMMONS-(YESTERDAY.) MANCHESTER AND SALFORD EDUCATION BILL. Mr. ADDERLEY moved the second reading of the above bill. It was a bill by which the ratepayers of Manchester asked Parliament for leave to rate themselves to support an education for all classes in that great city. He regretted it was a private bill, but he would take care, as far as in him lay, when it had passed a committee upstairs he would move for its re-committal, in order to the full discussion of the bill. (Hear, hear.) The advocates of the denominational system in this country invariably refer to the services of that system in America ; but, from the evidence of Mr. Twistleton, the principle most vital in America is not that of the de nominational system, but what he (Mr. Adderley) hoped would long remain there—the strong religious feeling which they have derived from the pilgrim fathers of England. He proposed as the only feasible proposition for this country, that there should be a rate for the pur poses of education, but that it should be made applicable to the foundation of all existing schools, in denomina tional hands. The bill he moved the second reading of was supported by the majority of the ratepayers of Man cheAer, and he hoped the bon member for Manchester would not—throwing over all his professions in favour of education oppose it. Mr. GIBSON moved as an amendment that educa tion to be supported by public rates is a subject which ought not to be dealt with by any private bill. He gave credit to the promoters of the measure for the motives by which they were actuated, but the first question, as it appeared to him, for the house to consider was, could they deal with the important subject of national edu cation, a subject of high public polity upon which Par liament had as yet pronounced no definite opinion —could they deal with it by what was called private legislation ? He believed it was never intended by the house when it framed its rules for the conduct of its business, that such a matter as national education should form the subject 111 of a private bill. He gave the hon gentleman credit for his endeavours to educate the children of Manchester, but he wished he had tried his legislative powers on Staffordshire in the first instance. The honourable gentleman called upon the house to commit itself to a principle of national education for the purpose of pro viding for the education of the people of Manchester. The right hon. gentleman then referred to the select committee on education, which arose out of a measure similar to this, of which he was chairman, which made no report ; but he had come to the conclusion upon the evidence that the measure was ill adapted to its purpose, and would lead to serious religious differences. At the same time he thought the gentlemen who had spent so much time, labour, and money on the promotion of this scheme were entitled to great credit, but however ex cellent their motives, he did not believe their labours would be productive of any great good. The right hon. gentleman concluded by moving his amendment. The LORD ADVOCATE referred to an observation made by Mr. Adderley, in which he attributed to him that he said, " that rather than that mathematics should not be taught in schools he would exclude Christianity." He did not know where or when he could have said such a thing, and the hon. gentleman had not informed him, but he was sure that it was totally inconsistent with all his sentiments. It was probable that he might have said that if you could not teach the people all that you wished, you should teach them all you could. With re gard to this bill, although be should be sorry to offer any obstacle to any attempt to promote education, he could not, as it stood, vote for the second reading. Mr. ADDERLEY said that he quoted the expression alluded to from Dr. Bryce's pamphlet. The LORD ADVOCATE.—Then Dr. Bryce had made an erroneous statement. _ _ _ Sir G. GREY, with reference to the course which it was advisable for the house to take, said that on the one hand there was a bill professing to remedy evils of great magnitude in large populations which had been promoted at a large expenditure of time and money, and in con formity with the rules laid down by Parliament, and for which the greatet credit was due to the persons who projected it, and on the other was the objection of the mode of proceeding by means of a private bill, which had great weight on his mind. It was impossible to look at the provisions of the bill in connexion with the evidence which was before the select committee on education, and not to see that this measure being brought forward as a private bill was objectionable, inasmuch as its principle though it was intended only for Manchester, was ap plicable to every large municipality in the community ; and the very fact of the hon. member for Staffordshire, who was unconnected with Manchester, bringing forward the bill should be a warning to the house that it was not applicable to Manchester alone, and the speech of the hon. member was a proof also of general applicability. He (Sir G. Grey) concurred in the principle of the mea sure, but having attended the committee which sat last year on education, he would be prepared to support a general bill which proposed a scheme for co-operating with all existing schools and giving aid to voluntary ef forts on behalf of education. .But he felt that the propo sition to go into committee of the whole house on the bill would not meet the objection to its being a private bill—for the whole house could not consider the pro visions of a bill of a local nature. If you went into a committee of the whole house, you would have assertion against assertion as to the feeling of Manchester. On that point ho was not able to form an opinion even on the evidence before the committee. He was anxious to hear the opinion of the government as to the course which ought to be taken. He would only offer one suggestion—that the bill should be treated as a public bill, with a permissive power, which would enable any locality to adopt it without coming to Parliament for fresh powers. Mr. NAPIER thought that this country was in a humiliating position on the question of education, and sooner or later it must be grappled with. The house ought to have the opportunity of availing themselves of the services of those excellent men who had promoted this plan, and he would give the bill his earnest support. After a few words from Mr. HARCOURT in support of the bill, Mr. WIGRAM said he should not perhaps oppose the bill merely on the question of whether it was a pri vate or a public bill ; but he thought if it passed it would to a great public precedent for all other towns, if it was seen that its principle was approved. The hon. member then referred to our having had for many years a system of education which had been of great benefit, and ob jected to any measure which tended to disturb it. He should vote against the second reading of the bill. Mr. HUME urged that the present system of educa tion was not sufficient to give education to the people generally, and it was necessary that Government should do something more. There was no chance of Parliament agreeing to any general measure, unless the Government laid down some rule by which a distinction could be drawn between secular and religious education ; but for his part, he thought the two ought to be kept entirely distinct from each other. The duties of the schoolmaster should be left to the schoolmaster, and the duties of the clergyman to the clergyman. Education, however, should be provided by the state, or by a public rate, and just as the law would not permit a child to starve, so it should not allow a child to go without some species of education. He, therefore, entreated the Government to take this subject up without further delay, and introduce some general measure which should be applicable to the whole of the country. (Hear, hear.) Lord J. RUSSELL—I have been asked several times in the course of this discussion to state what is my view with respect to the question which Is now before the house. lam about, sir, to comply with that request, although I am afraid that my view will not be of much use to the house in guiding it to a decision upon this subject. It seems to me that there are difficulties insu perable with respect to the proposition which is now before us. (Hear, hear.) The hon. gentleman who brings forward this bill is entitled, I think, to great credit for having undertaken that task. (Cheers.) Still more credit is duo to those who in Manchester have gone on, year after year, bestowing great labour and much time in endeavouring to bring to perfection a measure which should be for the benefit of the community, and espe: oially for the benefit of the poor. (Rear, hear.) Sir, I am sorry to think that the forms of this house should in terpose any difficulties in the way of accomplishing so laudable a desire. But it is evident, in the first place, that if the society or association who are the promoters of this bill had attempted to introduce it as a public bill they would at once have been stopped—(hear, hear) ; that you, sir, would have interposed your authority, and would have stated that the provisions of the measure being applicable to Manchester alone—it being a mea sure for the education of the people of Manchester, and not in any way extending to any other part of the coun try—it could not be permitted to be proceeded with in that form. (Hear, hear.) Then, sir, it having been in troduced as a private bill, I must confess Ido not think that the resolution of my right hon. friend, " That edu cation to be supported by public rates is a subject which ought not to be dealt with by any private bill"—is, in itself, an abstract proposition which the house ought not to support. (Hear, hear.) It seems to me that if the members of any community are satisfied that there would be great difficulty in carrying any general measure applicable to the whole country, and that the order, morality, and welfare of their own community would be promoted by a bill allowing them to raise rates for the purposes of education, the house ought not to inter pose any obstacle to their obtaining that object. (Hear.) But, sir, the difficulty here is, that the community of Manchester are not agreed in reference to the merits of this scheme—(hear)—and this appears to me to be the real objection to proceeding with the bill. (Hear, hear.) If, as I say, the community of Manchester generally had said, " We want a bill of this sort ; we think that it would be a great benefit to Manchester ; the number of those who are opposed to it is' very small ; will you allow us to vote some of our own money, to be raised by rates among ourselves, to purposes of education l" I should have been one of the last persons to prevent their having that measure. (Hear.) But a resolution has been passed unanimously by the Town Council, repre senting the ratepayers of Manchester, and requesting in effect that the house will not proceed with the mea sure. (Cheers.) Now, sir, with respect to the measure itself 1 do not wish to enter into details, because I think the details, if it were a public measure, might be subject to any amendment or improvement that might be suggested ; but I confess that I see with respect to one part of the measure very great difficulties. (Hear.) I allude particularly to that part of it to which the hon. and learned gentleman the member for the University of Cambridge has referred. (Hear hear.) The present system on which this bill professes . to be founded is a very intelligible system. (Hear.) Each religious de nomination—the Established Church, the Protestant , Dissenters, the British and Foreign School Society, and the Roman Catholic Association, all in their several de, ihe children not following the founder's religious views might outnumber those who did follow them, and thus the character of the endowment would virtually be changed. Now, without discussing these two points as principles, he (Mr. Walpole) would say that they were not of tha character to be dealt with by a private bill. A private bill was not printed and brought under the notice of each member of the house, in the same manner as a public bill, nor was the same notice given of its second reading. It was said that this bill was a private bill, but would the house allow him to point out that it was not of a character to allow it to pass through under that denomi nation. A bill might be brought in as a private bill, the object of which was the repair of churches and the levying of a rate for that purpose, but would the house allow it so to pass 2 So it was with a measure like the present, involving as it did a great educational principle. For these reasons he thought the course now taken likely to lead to great public inconveni ence, and he regretted that the Government should not have brought the subject before the house in a public measure of their own. He dissented from the amend inent as tying up the house from future legislation ; and as to the second reading, he thought that the course of the promoters would be best served by postponement. He would not support a motion for a second reading that day six mouths, but would suggest that the amendment should be withdrawn, and the second reading refused, with a view to the re-introduction of the bill and full consideration at a future time. Mr. MIALL advocated the voluntary principle, and opposed the hill. Mr. BROTHERTON said that although he had for merly been a party to the introduction of this bill, he now felt that, seeing it could not be carried out without the consent of the inhabitants of Manchester and Salford, and that they were opposed to it, there was very good reason for postponement. Differences of opinion existed in Manchester and Salford on the subject of popular education, and there were many symptoms of approxi mation, and he hoped the time was not far distant when all would agree on a general system. He should vote against the amendment, but if that were negatived should then support the postponement of the second reading for three weeks, and in that time he thought a bill might be agreed on which would meet the views of the people of Manchester and Salford. Mr. MUNTZ would vote against the second reading of the bill, not with the view of impeding the progress of education, but because it was evident that the town council of Manchester, the representatives of the people who were to be affected by it, were opposed to it. He wished to extend education, both secular and religious, but so long as the two were combined together in one measure, so long be feared they would be without a ge neral system of national education. Mr. ADDERLEY, in reply, said he would have been content with the proposal of the right hon. member for Morpeth (Sir G. Grey) for a permissive bill, but after the course taken by the opponents of the bill and by the Government he must divide the house on the question. Mr. GIBSON proposed to introduce the words— le present time" into the amendment. The house then divided— For the second reading 76 Against it The amendment was then put and agreed to. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. Sir J. PAKINGTON said as they had now got through the private business (quarter to twelve), he wished, before the house proceeded with the orders of the day, to put a question to some member of the Government. (Hear, hear, and a laugh.) But as there was no member of the Cabinet present, perhaps some other member of the Government would be enabled to say whether it was intended to proceed with the Oaths Bill on Monday next. Mr. J. WILSON, after a brief consultation with one or two of the subordinate members of the Government near him, said : The right hon. gentleman has given no notice of his question, and I am not, therefore, in a position to answer it. (Laughter.) Mr. WALPOLE gave notice that he would put the question to-morrow. Mr. WILSON believed the Oaths Bill would be pro ceeded with on Monday if the estimates should have been voted. NEW BILLS. Mr. PETO, a bill for the uniform assessment of pro perty for the purposes of rating. Both bills were brought in, and read a first time. The Friendly Societies Bill was read a second time, and committed for Wednesday, March 15. TRUCK AMENDMENT BILL. Mr. C. FORSTER brought in the Truck Act Amend ment Bill, which was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on Wednesday, March 16. The house adjourned at twelve o'clock. PARLIAMENTARY DIVISIONS. HOUSE OF COMMONS-FEB. 21. MANCHESTER AND SAL FORD EDUCATION BILL. Order for second reading read ; motion made, and question proposed, " That the bill be now read a second time." Amendment proposed, to leave out from the word " That" to the end of the question, in order to add the words " Education to be supported by public rates is a subject which ought not to be dealt with by any private bill," in stead thereof. Question proposed, " That the words pro posed to be left out stand part of the question." Amend ment, by leave, withdrawn. Question again proposed, " That the bill be now read a second time." Amendment proposed, to leave out from the word " That" to the end of the question, iu order to add the words " Education to be supported by public rates is a subject which ought not at the present time to be dealt with by any private bill," in stead thereof. Question put, ." That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the question." The House divided—Ayes 76, Noes 105. AYES-76. A'Court, C. Gladstone, Capt. J. Alexander, J. thmlburn. Ball, E. Halsey, T. P. Barrington, Viscount Hamilton, G. A. Beach, Sir M. Ilawicius, W. Bennet, Capt F. Ileadlam, T. Bonham-Carter, J. Ingham, It. Bowyer, G. Johnstone, J. l3rot herton, J. Jaffe, Sir W. Burghley, Lord. Ker, Butt, I. Kin J. Child, Smith Knatchbull, W. Christie, Samuel Liddell, 11. G. Cobbold, J. C. Liddell, 11. T. Codrington, Sir C. W. Lucas, F. Cowan, C. Lytton, Sir G. Cowper, W. F. Macartney, G. Davison, R. Maguire, J. F. Drumlmrig, Vis. Mandeville, Vie. Dundas, G. Maxwell, J. Egerton E. Michell, Dr. W. Elcho, Lord Moore. R. Ellice, E. Mundy, W. Evelyn, W. Namer, J. }'ley, J. North, Lt.-Col. J. Frewen, C. O'Brien, P. George, J. Pakington, Sir J. Palk, L. Percy, T. Philipps, J. Pritchard, J. Robertson, P. Ru-hout, Capt. G. Russell, F. C. Sinijth, sir W. Smith. 'W. Spooner, R. Stafford, A. Stanhope. J. Sturt, 11. Sutton, J. Taylor, Lt.-Col. J. Vance, J. Vausittart, G. Vernon, G. Whitbread, S. Whitmore, H. Williams. W. Wynne, W. TELLERS. Add erley, C. Chambers, T NOES-105. Adair, IL Hadfield, G. Peel, Sir R. Anderson, Sir J. Hall, Sir B. Pellatt, A. Atherton, W. Butte, Alex. Peto, S. Barnes, T. Hastie, Archd. Phinn, T. Bearnish, F. Heathcote, Sir G., Pllkinh, , ton, J. Bell, J. Henley, J. Pollard-Urquhart, W erkeley, lion. C. He . wood, J. Power, N. Biggs, W. Heyworth, L. Ricardo, 0. Blair, Col. J. 11. Hilyard, It. C. Robartes, T. Booker, T. W. Hindley, C. Roche, E. Booth, Sir Rt. Gore Hume, J. Sawle, C. Boyle, Lt.-Col. Hutt, W. Scully, F. Bruce, C. L. C. Jackson, W. Seaham. Viscount Buckeley, Gen. Johnstone, Sir J. Seymour, W. Byng, G. Keating, H. Sotheron , T. Cecil, Lord R. Kendall, N. Stuart, Lord D. Clay, Sir W. Rt. Kershaw, J. Sullivan. Michael Cobden, R. Laing, S. Thompson, G. Coffin, W. Lee, W. Thorn ely, T. Craufurd, E. H. J. Locke, J. Thornhill, W. Crook, J. Loveden, P. Vivian, H. H. Crowder, R. B. Lowe, R. Walmsley, Sir J. Duff, G. Luce, T. Walpole, S. Duff, J. Marshall , W . Walter, J. i I Duncan, G. Maule, Lieut.-Col. L. Watkins, Col. Emlyn, Vis. Miall, E. Wells, W, Fagan, W. Milligan, It. Wickham, H. W. Fitz Gerald, J. Milner, %V. Wigram, Loftus T. Forster, C. Moffatt, G. Wilkinson, W. Forster, Sir G. Morris, D. Willcox, B. Forster, J. Mowbray, J. Wilson, J. Fox, W. Mulgrave, Earl of Gardner, It. Muntz, G. , Geach, C. Murrough, J. ' Gower, F. O'Connell, J. Green, Capt John Osborne, It. Greville, Col. F. Paget, Lord A. TELLERS. Bright, J. Gibson, T. CHELTENHAM WATERWORKS BILL. Order for second reading read ; motion made and question proposed, " That the bill be now read a second time." Amendment proposed, to leave out the word " now," and at the end of the question to add the words " upon this day six months." Question put, " That the word ' now' stand part of the question." The house divided--Ayes, 85 ; Noes, 83. AYES-85. A'Court, C. French F. Alcock, T. Frewen C. Atherton, W. Fuller, A. Bagshaw, J. Gibson, T, Bailey, Sir J. Greene, Thomas Barnes, T. G r osvenor, Ld. R. Beamish, F. Iladrield, George Bell, J. Mulkey, T. Bethell, Sir R. nayter, W. Bland, L. H. Hea thcote, Sir W. .. vs vwocid J. 11,nham-Carter , ~, • —e -, - , B roc kman, E. D. Heyworth, L. Brotherton, J. Hindley , C. Boreal!, T. Butler, C. S. Jackson, W. Child, Smith Johnstone, Sir J. Clay, Sir W. Et. Kershaw, J. Cobden, R. King, P. Collier, R. P. Langton, 11. G. Coote, Sir C. H. C ra ufurd, E. H.S. Lee W. J. Crook, J. MacGregor, J. Duncan, G. Mall, E. Buncombe, TM. T. Milligan, R. Dunlop, A. E . Muntz, G. Egerton Esmonde, J. O'Connell, J. Fagan, W. Oliveira, B. Ferguson, J. Paget, Lord A. Foley, J. Patten, J. Fox, W. Pellatt, A. NOES-83. mair, 11. Gore, W. Napier, J. Adderley, C. Gr enall, Gilbert O'Brien, P. Alexander, J. Halsey, T. P. Pakington, Sir J. Ball, E. Hanbury,Capt. Hon. C. Ponso oby, A. Beach, Sir M. Harcourt, Col. F. Portal, M. Bellow, T. Ha s ti e , Archd. Powlett, Lord W. Bentiuck, G. Heathcote, G. Pritchard, J. Blacker, J. F. 11. Hilyard, It. C. Pugh, D Blair, Lieut -Col. J. H. Hotliam, Lord Seaham, Viscount Boldero, Lt.-Col. H. G. Kingscote, Capt. R. Seymer, H. Burghley, Lord Knatchbull, W. Shafto, R. Butt, G. M. Knight, F. Smith, W. Butt, I. Knox, W. S. Smyth, J. G. Byng, G. H. C. Langston, J. H. Somerset, Capt. E Castlerosse, Vis. Christy, Samuel Lascelles, E. S tafford, Marquis Chaplin, W. Lennox, Lord A. F. Stanhope , J. Liddell, H. T. Trollope, Sir J. Clinton, Lord C. P. P. Lindsay Lt.• Col. J. Vance, J. Cocks, T. S. L ov edeu, P. Cubitt, W. Davie, Sir 11. R. F. Macart ne y , G. Duff, J. Farrel', J. Vansittart, G. Lytton, Sir E. Villiers, F. Waddington, H. Davison, R. m li mea ai ti d e ei ra le na , , V . Farre J. iscount Whiteside, J. Milner, W. Fitzgerald, W. Mitchell, W. Whitmore, it. Buncombe, Hon. Capt. Forbes, W. Moore, R. Forster, Sir G. Morris, D. Freshfield, J. Mowbray. J. George, J. Naas, Lord Peto, S. PllkinglOn, J. Roche. E. iiTss;il,F. C. Russell. F. W. Sanders, G. Sawle, C. Scobell, Capt. G. Scott, F. ___ Seymour. W. Smith, J. B. Sotheron, T. Spooner. R. Sirutt, E. Sullivan, Michael Thornely, T. Waddington, D. Walmsley, Sir J. Walpole. S. Whatman, J. Whitbread, S. Wickham, IL Wilkinson, W. Willcox, B. Williams, W. TELLERS. Berkeley, Hon. C. Bouverie, Hon. E. P TELLERS. Jolliffe, Sir W. Mulling', J. 211 1 16 107 10 i 221 1 i 2 i larttion. SUN OFFICE, Six o'clock. SPAIN. The Gazette of the 16th contains a circular from the Minister of Public Works to the governors of provinces, directing them to call on the local au thorities to take measures for preventing an in crease in the price of articles of the first necessity. General Infante, one of the exiled generals, has obtained permission to go to Palma, in the island of Majorca, instead of stopping at Hisa—Palma being a more agreeable residence. The _Herald° states that the adjudication of the Northern railway, announced for the Ist of March will not take place on that day, in order that the government may have time to examine all the documents relative to the line, and make known all the information which may be useful to the capitalists. It is rumoured that the Queen will pass the Passion week at Seville. If her Majesty should go she will be accompanied by the President of the Council. Cabinet councils are very frequent. Nothing, however, transpires out of doors with respect to the deliberations ; but it is believed that the Council of Ministers is paying attention to impor tant political questions. The Diario of the 16th has been seized in con sequence of the publication of a violent article on the subject of the severe measures which the go vernment has thought right to adopt with respect to Generals O'Donnell and Jose de la Concha. News from the provinces are very satisfactory ; perfect tranquillity prevails everywhere." The Three per Cents. were done at 37i ; the New Three pe r C en t. at 19a ; the .Debt of the First Class at 8 ; an d th at of the Second at 41. STATB OP TBAYB. ( From the Mani h,e,4 ker Guardian of thii day.) MANCHESTER, Feb. 21.;-7-We have to report a quiet market to-day, and yet a much fteadier one than might be expected when the country is actually taking the first step in what promises to be a gigantic war. The lower kinds of shirtings, madapollainsijacconets, and certain descriptions of mule and water twist, which have been latterly much bought up by the, eastern mer chants are well sustained In value by their scarceness, and there continues to be some demand for them. In printing cloths, and in such fabrics as are more espe cially made for the home market, there is a sensible weakness, though but a small decline in prices. Such domestics and T cloths as are fitted for shipment con tinue to go off at the previous rates. Certain doubled yarns are as scarce and dear as ever. Besides being affected by political causes, our market as (well as that of Liverpool) has felt the influence of the American ad vices, which report a giving way of s to lc. per lb. in cotton at New Orleans, partly in consequence of in creased receipts at the ports, and partly through a tight ness of money; and the feeling of caution is more ope rative than it was some days ago, leading to a greatly restricted business. - - HALIFAX, Feb. 18.—Our piece hall has been very slenderly attended to-day, and but few goods have changed hands. The demand for yarn being greatly curtailed, the spinners are limiting the quantity produced, and working short time is becoming more general. The wool market is not active, and the staplers seemAesirous of quitting their stocks. ROCHDALE, Feb. 20.—The flannel market has been more than usually quiet. Wool keeps up its price, and the demand continues steady, but the manufacturers purchase only for present use. HUDDERSFIELD, Feb. 21.—The demand for goods in the Cloth Hall and warehouses has been very light, and manufacturers complain of a scarcity of orders. The shipping houses have been the principal customers in the market for the last few weeks, but their demands have slackened considerably within the present week. The wool merchants complain of a want of business. BIRMINGHAM, Feb. 20.—Orders for all descriptions of iron continue abundant, and the production is limited only by the supply of fuel and labour obtainable. In rails there has been a good business done. The scarcity of coals and ironstone still continues, and so does the unusual demand for the former by the country dealers. Very few unexplored tracts of mine remain to be opened in this district, while many of the older ones are fast wearing out, so that no prospect of any reduction of prices, or of any considerable increase in the make of iron, is yet to he expected. THE SOLDIER'S WIFE. The fate of their wives and children must give many an anxious thought to about 1,000 of the 10,000 troops who are just starting for the seat of war. Those best acquainted with the subject, and with the condition of the army, inform us that as nearly as may be 10 per cent. of our soldiers are married men, with one or more children. Freely and heartily—come life come death— are the men prepared to follow their colours ; but it is from their very zeal in the public service, and their total forgetfulness of other interests, that we draw the strongest argument in favour of their wives and children. We would, before going further, offer a few words of explanation upon the relative position of the sol dier's an:l the sailor's wife, when the husband of either may be ordered on active service, that as many of our readers as may not have considered the subject may be made aware of the full hardship of the case. In the first place, the sailor is much better paid than the soldier ; in the next place, he has the power of directing that during his absence half his pay shall be paid over to his wife. To be sure the sum is not much; but it always enables the woman, if she be thrifty and industrious, to set up some small business, and so to keep her head above water until Jack returns. Not so with the soldier ; he can just manage to maintain him self decently alive upon his pay—that is to say, by some mysterious process he obtains food enough and clothing enough, in return for the pittance which the country affords him for fighting our battles ; but when he goes abroad all those additional sources from which the sol dier contrived to extract a few weekly pence are dried up, and in the majority of cases his wife is thrown back upon the workhouse. Her little children are as stones round her neck when she seeks for a place as domestic ser vant, so that the history of a soldier's wife, when her husband is in the field, is the struggle of a few months as a laundress, or something of that description, and then the workhouse. The case of the children is just as bad. In times of peace there are the regimental schools, in which they receive excellent instruction. War puts an end to these arrangements, save, we believe, in the case of the Guards. The schools are shut up, and the poor children turned out with their mothers upon the wide world. Surely the situation of these poor people is a very distressing one. We trust we are chary, as men should be, of giving way to sentimental expression; yet we cannot but say that thought upon all these mat ters must give the soldier's heart a severe twinge as he is about to face the fire and steel of the enemy in the open field. The following letter upon this subject, with the signature of " A Naval Officer," is very creditable to the good feeling of the writer, who, being a sailor him self, comes forward so manfully to advocate the cause of the sister-service : TO THE EDITOR OF THE TIMES. Sir,—When the first burst of enthusiasm and admira tion excited by the splendid troops about to embark for the East has somewhat subsided, the country may be well disposed to think of the hearts torn with grief and anxiety of those dearest to them who must be left behind. The pay of the soldier is wholly inadequate to maintain his wife, even without children, in his absence on foreign service, and no better proof could be given of deep, and heal tfelt interest in the welfare of our s oldiers—of true s y m p a thy with the one care that is weighing heavily on the hearts of many of them—than by an earnest effort upon the part of the country to ameliorate the condition of their wives and families, who will be left, in general, in want and suffering. This is a subject which deserves our warmest support, and let a well-devised scheme appear in your columns, and the people of England will not be backward to prove that their hearts feel what their lips so unanimously proclaim —viz., a deep interest in the noble fellows who ar e go i ng forth from among us to devote their best blood to the Sir, your obedientr N se A rv v a A n u t, orFroBR. serv ice of the l co a u m n , try. United Service Club, Feb. 20. The Earl of Carlisle is not expected to return to Eng landlordhsbiepfore April. A ccor di ng to th e l as t accoun t s , hi s was staying at Corfu. THE LONDON ORPHAN ASYLUM.—The anniversary fes tival of the members of this institution took place yes terday evening, at the London Tavern, Mr. W. Kirby in the chair, when about 160 subscribers sat down to dinner. After the usual loyal toasts, "The Army and Navy" were drunk with unusual enthusiasm. The chairman, in proposing the continued proifivirity of the institution, expressed his satisfaction at its rapid pro gress and admirable organisation. All the - teachers had done their duty. During the past year, 255 boys and 127 girls had been admitted into the asylum. Not one of the boys who belonged to it had failed in obtaining a situation ; and it was a remarkable fact, that those who had once been inmates never ceased to cherish the warmest attachment to the place that had sheltered them in former years. He was glad to see among the company so many men who would ere long take the place of the present directors, most of whom were well advanced in years. A hundred boys and girls each paraded round the room, and I•eceivgi refreshuients. The company were enlivened during time evening by musical airs, under the direction of Mr. G. F. Taylor. About 2,3001. was collected in aid of the institution, the chairman contribliting 40/. After a 'few toasts to the working staff of .iihe-pylum; including the chairman, the party broke l upi• f 7: . [ADVKIMSNMENTI-.—The Earl of Aldborough and Holloway's Pills.—An astounding cure by this miracu lous medicine after every other means had failed. See extract from his lordship's letter, dated "Villa Messina, Leghorn, Feb. 21, 18 45 . To PrOfessor Hollo way , Sir—l beg to acquaint , yo u that y our p ills have ef fected a cure of a disorder in m y liver and stomach, whi ch all the most eminent of t he facult y at home and all over the waters s ten o t f h c ad ar il s o b t a b d een or abl e.tb effeet—nay, n o t even the Marienbad. (Signed) borough." Thes e wonderful pills will core Aid- any disorders of the liver or stomach.—Sold (also Holloway's oint ment) at Prosessor Holloway's Establishment, 244, t u Strand, London, and by all medicine -venders h-o , the world. gh. ." at Torts er to d en- esser ortly age iense The Trial TOW ears the tube way ifter Dva. tins tive all af taly ) in de that heir and per side 111310 mce and not the an Or 10U tion ude les, een Lnd the ;am the ave )rn the yen led nd BT- 274 22 25 25 25 18 20 At. 20 20 10 10 20 St. St. St. St. 10 St. 25 20 20 50 20 103 i ! If