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was Irelaudtonciiiated l He would let 1848 and the out rages which preceded and followed it answer the ques tion. Had it even conciliated the Roman Catholics here ? The abominable assumption of titles by Roman Catholic ecclesiastics was the reply. At that time the Roman Catholics rose like one man—(oh, oh)—to defy the law. If the Government intended properly to go vern Ireland, they should govern it in such a way that Irishmen should be on equality with the rest of th e kingdom. (Ch eers from the Irish members.) Hon. members cheered when he spoke of equality. (Hear, hear.) He was sorry indeed that the religion of Roman Catholics condemned Parliament to impose restraints uponi them—(a laugh)—it was no t the fault of t he. l egs - ture„ it was the fault of th ose t o whom Roman Cat holics , gaie blind allegiance. He was astonished that the noble lord,the President of the Council (Lord J. Russell) should take the course he had upon this question, stand ing as he did in opposition to the whole weight of public opinion. As to the plea of the necessity of finding a place for educating priests, he would point out to the house that it was said in Irish newspapers that 50,0001. had been subscribed for a Free Irish Roman Catholic University. He said to the Roman Catholics, why did not th e y build this university and send their priests there to be educated ? By that means they would get rid of all these questions at once; they would then have no annual or other discussion. Mr. HEYWORTII disapproved of the manner in which this question was brought on. Had the hon. member (Mr. Spooner) brought on a motion directly censuring the grant to Maynooth, he should have had his (Mr. Heyworth's) vote, but as it was he should vote against him. Mr. GARDNER should vote for the hon. gentleman who moved this resolution, although be felt very indig nant at the speech with which he had proposed it, the reason of his support being that he objected to all grants whatever for religious purposes. (Hear, hear.) He thought that the hon. members for Warwickshire were instruments raised up by Providence for the destruction of the Protestant Church as by law established. (Laugh . ter, and hear.) He was surprised that the two hon. gentlemen did not see how absurd their remarks were when the state of Ireland—with a Church Establishment, which it did not want, forced upon it—was considered. For his own part, nothing but the secularisation of the Irish Church revenues would satisfy him, and he be lieved that many hon. members thought with him, and that the day was not far distant when statesmen would think so too. The question was then put in the usual manner, and the house called for a division. The sand-glass was accordingly turned, in order to mark the time allowed for members to arrive in the house. The sand was nearly run out when Mr. BUTT rose, but his voice was instantly drowned in cries of "Divide." The SPEAKER said that he had not long since inti mated to the house that great inconvenience occurred through hon. gentlemen rising just as the sand was run out, and had intimated an opinion that it would be bet ter, when once the glass was turned, to consider the de bate closed. (Hear, hear.) Mr. BUTT again rose, but was immediately assailed with such vehement cries of " Divide," " Oh," and " Chair," that he did not attempt to speak, apparently considering—and not without reason—that hon. gentle. men would speedily weary themselves into silence. At length Mr. DRUMMOND rose to order. He wished to un derstand whether, by the statement which had been made from the chair, it was to be considered a rule that the debate was closed when the sand-glass was turned. The SPEAKER said that the rule had never been actually laid down in so many words, but when he called attention to the matter on a preceding occasion, his view seemed to meet with the general assent of the house. Mr. BUTT again rose, and after a time succeeded in obtaining a hearing. He considered that he was strictly in order in rising to address the house ; at the same time, after what had fallen from Mr. Speaker, he would not stand upon what he believed to be his strict rights. Be had not been present when the intimation to which reference had been made from the chair was given, and hence he was in entire ignorance of such an understand ing ever having existed. (Cheers.) He trusted that this explanation would be satisfactory to the house. (Cheers.) Under any ciretunstances . he would not have taken the course he had, had he not hoped that some member of the Government, even at the last moment, would address the house. (Cheers.) The house then divided— For Mr. Spooner's motion Against it Majority The result was received with loud cheers . .--16 SUPPLY. The house then went into a committee of supply. The following votes were agreed to :- 3,875/. for the University of London. 7,710/. for Universities in Scotland. 3001. for the Royal Irish Academy. 3001. for the Royal Hibernian Academy. Upon the vote of 2,6001. for theological professors at Belfast. Mr. WILLIAMS was not satisfied with this vote, in asmuch as he had understood that those allowances were-all to have been merged. Mr. BRIGHT stated that when the question of the Irish Regium Donum came on he intended to take the sense of the committee against it. The present vote was only an offshoot of it, but as it would be better to take the discussion on the main question, he did net now make any objection, and he trusted his how. friend (Mr. Williams) would also allow the vote to pass. There was the m ere reason for doing so as oven i f the d ec i s i on of the committee should be against the Regium Donum, Government would not like to refuse it this year though they might do so hereafter. The vote was then agreed to. 2,259/. was granted for the Queen's University in Ire land. On the British Museum vote, 55,255/., Mr. A. PELLATT complained of the public being re stricted to three days a week for admission to this insti tution. The excuse was that it was necessary to give two days a week to the students, but he believed the attend ance of students was comparatively small. Mr. J. BALL expressed a hope that the question of the management of the Museum would be considered by the Government, and that a radical reform of the existing system, which was replete with abuses, would result. It was not to be supposed that the 37 gentlemen who man• aged the Museum were enabled to devote that attention to the subject which was necessary, and the few on whom the management practically devolved, however talented they might be, did not always arrive at such decisions as were calculated to increase the efficiency of the insti tution. He complained especially of the refusal of the trustees to avail themselves of the offer of two valuable collections of English antiquities, notwithstandin g the paucity of English antiquities in the Museum. He sug gested that the institution should be under the control of some officer of Government, who should be responsible. Mr. J. G. PHILLIMORE drew attention to the fact that a great many of the most valuable works in the li brary of the Museum were still in MS., and instanced those of Wicliffe. Mr. GEACH saw no more reason why the Museum should not be opened to the public six days in the week han the Crystal Palace. Mr. W. J. FOX concurred in the suggestion, but with a reservation that artists pursuing their studies at the Museum should be enabled to do so at hours when they would not be interrupted by the general public. He had heard it complained that the students of industrial art, for whom lectures had been provided in Jermyn-street, had not ready access to articles in the Museum to which reference was made in those lectures, and suggested that some arrangement should be made to obviate this inconvenience. He also urged the importance of open• ine• the reading room at night, for the convenience of those young men who were engaged during the day in their ordinary avocations. Mr. JAMES M`GREGOR expressed a hope that greater facilities would be given for the admission of the public. After a few words from Mr. BELL, Mr. J. WILSON could assure the house from a con versation he had had with the right hon. member for Cambridge (Mr. Goulbu rn ), a few weeks ago, that the question h ow f ar it was practicable to afford greater facilities t o th e pu b lic for visiting the Museum had en• gaged the att en ti on of the trustee's. Mr. EWART regretted that the Forsyth collection of Saxon antiquities had not been secured, He thought, however, that ;be system wa s r norto not the ' • trustees, who, being many of them °Mei I blame than t . he 000esidtreuits high and important offices, had portu h n devoting that amount of time and attent7i l) t l y d n o g f to the ma. nagement of the Museum which was neceson reject Lord SEYMOUR stated that the d,,etcoila ttic: the collection in question had beet tees, at a full meeting, after the most mature " tion, it having been postponed in order that there mig h t be a full att en d ance. Considering the amount the it'iust tees had at their disposal this question of purchasing col lections of antiquities was one of great difficulty. Th e antiquities of every part of the world had its admirers. One society blamed them fir not buying up all the medimval antiquities they could get, neglecting all others. Another was for those of Greece or Rome only ; a third for the Nineveh collection ; others were for the Anglo-Saxon ; and some again for American antiquities. Every country and every age furnished its claims, and every class of antiquities had its special advocates. Now it was obviously impossible fur the trustees, with the limited sum they had at their command, to meet all those demands, and the only ques tion was how they could best secure th ose w hi c h i t was most desirable the country should possess. Some collec tions, as those of Greece and Asia Minor, unless they were purchased by the trustees for the Museum, would, in all probability, be lost to the nation refused altogethe r ; if whereas others, as those of this country,by the Museum, would be likely to fled a place in so me provinci a l m useum—as was the case with the Forsyth collection. H e did not think, if the matter were left to any one per son a ppointed for the purpose, the decision would have been different. After a few words from Mr. J. BALL and Mr. BWART, lIINNAIRD expressed a hope that the library of the British Museum would be opened in the evening, for the benefit of yeu no• men who could not attend at any other tim e . Lord SEYMOUR said the question of opening the library in the evening had been frequently mooted. It must be renieuiliered, however, that the library of the British Museum was different from a common lending library. Its real value was not for persons who wanted to read the common books of the day, or of the last fifty gears. There was scarcely any w or k of science, of his tory, or of m emo i rs i n Europe, which had notderived benefit from it. It should, therefore, be most open to readers of that class who came there to compile works, and who wanted assistance from books which were not of ready access elsewhere. There ought to be other me tropolitan libraries of common books, whe r e people could read when they pleased ; but to admit persons in the evening, and let them send for any books they wanted out of 450,000 volumes, would be to incur great risk. (Hear, hear.) The officers must go about with lights, and put them down while looking for books, and this would of course be attended with danger. The object could only be accomplished by putting aside a certain number of books to be read — an arrangement which would cause great dissatisfaction. When there was a new reading room, there would be much greater accommodation for readers ; but he thought , the department of printed books and the department of manuscripts were, as far as the public were concerned, the most useful parts of the British Museum. Sir D. .NORREYS thought it desirable to make a good collection of British antiquities, in imitation of France. There was no place in the country where there could be found a collection of national relics. Mr. W. J. FOX said the books which he wished to see accessible in the evening were such as were to be found in other libraries. Mr. BELL wished to know when the new catalogue would be completed ? The present catalogues (five in number) were very imperfect, and much loss of thue oc curred in looking for books. Lord SEYMOUR said these complaints were urged only by theorists and superficial readers. He bad seve ral times called for books, and bad them furnished to him in three minutes. Mr. EWART thought the library of the Museum should be lighted and opened by night. In his opinion there should be at least six great general district libraries in London. The vote was then agreed to. On the vote of 101,1421. to defray the cost of addi tional buildings at the British Museum, Lord W. GRAHAM asked whether Government had any intention of appointing a R o y a l comm i ss i on to in quire into all those national establishments ? Mr. WILSON replied in the negative. Mr. DANBY SEYMOUR suggested the removal of the geological specimens to another place, with the view of enlarging the accommodation for the books. He asked whether there would be any objection to the pro duction of the report of Sir Charles Barry upon those buildings? Mr. WILSON said there would be no objection to the production of this report. Mr. A. PELLATT said he should persevere in his motion to postpone the vote. A division was called, but none took place, and the vote was agreed to. 1,500/. for the expense of transmitting ancient marbles from Assyria to this country was agreed to. THE NATIONAL GALLERY. On 7,490/. for the expenses of the National Gallery, Lord W. GRAHAM inquired whether a salaried direc tor was to be appointed this year. Was there any diffi culty in finding a properly qualified person for the office ? There was a report that an eminent German professor was to be appointed. Mr.WILSON said the subject was under the immediate consideration of the First Lord of the Treasury. An appli cation had been made within the last fortnight from the trustees of the National Gallery for the appointment of such an officer, and he believed it was the intention of the Government to appoint one in a few days, if a proper per son could be found. There was no truth in the rumour of the appointment of a German professor. Mr. DANBY SEYMOUR said there was another vote for the National Gallery in the miscellaneous estimates. Why was it not included in this vote? It was a sum of 27,0001. for additional land at Kensington Gore for the building of a National Gallery. For the first time they bad beard officially that there was to be a national gallery at Kensington Gore ; and if it was intended to carry out the second report of the Commissioners of the Great Exhibition, such a gigantic plan would lead to an expense of one or two millions. That vote should have been put under the head of the National Gallery, and not in the miscellaneous estimates. The hon. gentleman then adverted to the in convenience of having the Gallery of Ancient Masters and the Vernon Gallery in separate buildings ; and he urged that the Royal Academy should be removed from the building at Trafalgar-square, and that that building should be appropriated to the national collection. Mr. WILSON suggested that the first point alluded to by the hon. gentleman should be deferred till they came to the vote. The 27,000/. for the ground at Kensington Gore was only a continuation of the vote of last year, addi tional land being necessary. With regard to the Vernon Gallery, that collection was left to the nation on the con dition that it should be kept as a separate gallery, and her Majesty had allowed it to be placed at Marlborough-house. He believed the public was satisfied that it should remain where it was. (No ) It was not convenient to remove it at present. He believed the public would be sorry to part with the annual exhibition of the Royal Academy in Trafalgar-square. Mr. DANBY SEYMOUR said that when the land at Kensington Gore was purchased for 150,00(.3., Mr. Disraeli distinctly stated to Mr. Hume that he took it for the pur poses of the Royal Commission of the Great Exhibition, and he did not pledge himself that it would be used for a national gallery, and the vote passed on that understanding. The Vernon Gallery was only temporarily at Marlborough house. Why should it not be removed to a more convenient place at Trafalgar-square. There was no chance of losing the exhibition of the Royal Academy, for it brought in 7,0001. a year, although they had agreed, when public rooms were assigned to them, that the public would be admitted to the exhibition gratis. It was also said that they had accumulated a sum of 140,0001., which was con trary to the terms of their charter. The whole question of the Royal Academy ought to be looked into, and he hoped that in the next session some move would be made in the matter. After some few observations from Mr. EWART and Mr. PELLATT, Lord W. GRAHAM said that he saw a sum of 2,8001. assigned to certain German pictures. Were they only curiosities, or were they calculated to serve the purposes of real art? Mr. WILSON said that was the object. They were pic tures of a very rare description. Mr. DRUMMOND complained that year after year large sums were voted for public buildings, which were at an expense far below what any private gentleman would have to pay for similar buildings. He was surprised that, considering all the inquiries which had been made on the subject of pictures, that they had not heard what had be come of the pumice-stone —(laughter)—and whether the pictures which were just brought were to be treated as all the others had been treated. tHear, and laughter.) There had been a committee on the subject, and he saw his noble friend the chairman of it present, who could no doubt give the house some information on the matter ; the report of the committee showed that it was most unwise to go on buying pictures and leaving them in such hands as tho others had been. No private gentleman would continue to buy pictures and leave them in such hands. The vote was agreed to. 2,0201. for scientific works and experiments and mag netic observations ; 500/. to provide suitable rooms for the meeting of the Royal Geographical Society were agreed to. The next vote was 11,250/. for the mixed commission for the suppression of the slave trade. Sir G. PECHELL hoped that the Government would keep up the squadron on the coast of Cuba in an efficient state, so as to give the slave trade, which the Spanish Government for the first time seemed anxious to suppress, a final blow. He had seen it lately stated that six cargoes of slaves had been landed in Cuba, amounting to 2,100 Africans. --- The next vote was 136,865/. for consular establishments abroad. Mr. WILLUMS said that amongst the items in this vote he observed the sum of 4,000/. for consuls at Russian ports; h e s h ou ld lik e to know if these were still to be maintained? There were also charges for consuls at Cologne, Frankfort, Paris (where we had au ambassador and a complete diplomatic establishment,) Madrid (of which the same might be said), Naples, Patras, Athens, Cincinnati, and other places, our trade with which was a mere bagatelle. He contended that all these charges were unnecessary, and a waste of public money, and that the appointments were made for the purposes of patronage. In answer to Admiral PECHELL, Lord PALMERSTON said the Government were un ceasing in their endeavours to obtain from Spain the due execution of the treaties for the suppression of the slave trade, and considerable impression had been made at Madrid on the subjLct. The orders of the Spanish Go vernment, which had hitherto been invariably disobeyed at the Havanuah, were now better attended to, and he entertained the hope that experience would show that the slave ti ado of Cuba would be materially diminished, if not entirely annihilated. With regard to the objections of the hon. member for Lambeth, he could only set his opinion against that of his hon. friend, and he was satis fied that his hon. friend's judgment was formed upon very light and erroneous grounds. In all the places his hon. friend had mentioned, the consular officers were necessary, and as to the salaries, they were in most cases no m ore than was required to enable the officers to keep up that decent appearance which was essential for the due per formance of their duties, and the credit of the country to which they belonged. Capt. SCOBELL said that no answer had been given with respect to the Russian consuls. Mr. WILSON said that though the duties of these officers were now temporarily suspended, they were still public officers, and it would be very hard indeed to say that their salaries should be stopped altogether. (Hear, hear.) They would not receive the full amount of salary after a certain time. Mr. D.A.NBY SEYMOUR, observed that the salaries of the consuls in China amounted to 31,000/. Ho wanted to know if they were allowed at the same time to trade in China, because if that were allowed they would have a strong interest in supporting the rebels against the autho- The result would probably be that rity of th e Emperor. h h :Y would lead the country into a war with China , as had T' en the case in Burinah. He heard it stated by persons n authority abroad that they would ultimately be engaged Lord i n a ot7r Wit s China, and that their eastern empire would bapfeAttiilll they had penetrated to Pekin. ply thia—th • troops approached that at the Chinsee was simpl y ..:7:TrOepNel forcesaid the transaction alluded to part of th e e mu j l e u e t t ely' an n d ec c e p sa nl our proceedings iubso tu'rtitetili mat acts of f appropriated violence ; a and do it British Nva sa s u b - he could assur e the China h ehin disturb the greatest forbearanne, peaceful relations in by force ; but so far from had not fulfilled their one al or to lead to encroachments, having any tendency to member that we had acted with and our merchants had Governmenth\vehi\svlee:trhaoeirreCyolroiti.pnieafisienl Sir G. PECHELL sai4aarereenta to the British empire, withstanding we had a consul at coast. had been attacked on the Riff :lion Qeen ' an English ship thing that our trade on that W of f L I, L 4O IA OI. M f Sorasikneterfporreters at information c it. was.sthaast,ernioouts np e i r 3, r a i t r e . s W. charge v . coast should suffer from rekrpectinz a °tl .l l. . P 4 ' '' c l e L B S . ON explained that it was in consequence of the increase of trade, and interpreter s traurdinary disburse ments Therhe nextv()te w ro a t s e t N li v e a u ,, l a s g , r s e oo ed i. t , o f . being necesary. Mr. missions IV! ° ,l 7s I L a. L b i ru ,k °r u : s l: , , o a f ft l e i r er a Majesty's eosbtys observations v e a r t i i i o b i a i s ssi f e r s om an m d N rfl yl e ii n e t l: was agreed to. On the next vote, 135,7721., for sups annuation and re tired allowances. Mr. V. SMITH said this vote ought to be nr.rrowly watched. This year there was an increase of 3,0001. in it. There was a number of allowances ou loss of office and re dactions, and he 'thought that those persons ought to ho appointed to fill vacant offices rather than that persons should be appointed to office for the first time. He scarcely saw any person who was restored to office except Sir Alex ander Spearman. Mr. 'WILSON was quite ready to admit the force of the observations of his right hon. friend, but he should re mind the house that the question of superannuations was fixed by act of Parliament, and the money paid was not out of the public money at all, but out of the contribu• , Lions paid by thi) empToyes ; and at the present moment there was in fact a great question among them whether the snperannual:i ons ought not to be larger or the contri butions smaller. Mr. W. WILL JAMS observed that in one ease a clerk retired at the age ;.f 61. His salary was 1,0001., and his re tiring allowance 9'161. Captain 5C08., - I:LL said he found that about 150 per sons had been put on the retired list for no other reason than a reduction in the establishments, and the allowances to these clerks were far beyond the pensions of admirals and generals. Lord NAAS asked when a decision would be come to with regard to the claims of the civil service ? Mr. WILSON said that was an important question, be cause the public servants felt, whether rightly or not was another matter, that their contributions to the superannua tion fund were too large, but it should be borne in mind that, as in the case of an insurance ottice at a particular period, the claims would increase. The whole question, however, was now under the consideration of Mr. Fin laison, and he hoped in a few days to come to some decision on the subject. The vote was then agreed to. The following vote:; were then agreed to without remark : —2,561/. for Corsican and Tonlonese emigrants, and Ame rican loyalists, Sze. ; 2,2101. for the Vaccine Establishment; 3251. for the efuge of the Destitute, and 4,2001. for Polish refugees and distressed Spaniards. The next vote was 4,4691., for miscellaneous charges, formerly defrayed from the civil list. Mr. W. WILLIAMS said that nearly all the items in this vote were objectionable. Mr. WILSON gave some explanations, which were not heard in the gallery, but were apparently satisfactory. Mr. A. PELLATT wished to know where the French refugee clergy were now performing their duties, or whether they were really hi existence. t h e W. WILSON—They were performing duties, one was at Southampton and another at Jersey. The vote was then agreed to. 1,3521., for the support of the - Foundling Hospital, Dublin. Mr. WILLIAMS objected also to this vote. He did not see why there should be. hospitals- of the kind main tained in Ireland at the public expense. There was no thing of the kind done in England and Scotland. He gave notice to divide on the vote the next year, if it was brought forward ; as well as on all the other votes of the same description. Lord NAAS said the sum voted was for the maintenance of persons who had been in an institution which was abolished on the passing of the poor law. The great hos pitals in London were supported by endowments given by the State years ago, otherwise they could not, even in this great City, exist. It had been proved that the medical school of Dublin could not exist without this grant ; and the committee on the subject had expressed a hope that these grants would not be withheld. The report of the committee was most favourable to these grants, and he wished the Government would postpone the grants until the reports were taken into consideration. Mr. MITCHELL was for having relative justice done to Ireland. There was only 2001. for vaccine institutions grantod to Ireland, whereas there was a grant of 2,0001. to England for the same purpose ; though vaccine matter was obtainable for nothing in England, whereas it had to be bought in Ireland. Mr. WILLIAMS maintained that the Vaccine Estab lishment was not to be compared with the Foundling Hos pital. All the charities in London were supported not by the State, but by voluntary contributions. Lord NAAS said St. Thomas's and St. Bartholomew's were supported by lands regulated by the Crown at the period of the Reformation. Mr. WILLIAMS said these grants were from the Church lands, the same as the estates of the nobility of England. Colonel DUNNE thought after the vast sums granted for the National Gallery and other metropolitan institu tions, it was not justice to refuse a pittance to the misery of Dublin. Mr. BRIGHT said a good deal of this discussion was in the dark, and he suggested that one or more committees should be appointed at the opening of the next session to examine into and revise the estimates. The miserable explanations given from the Treasury bench were always unsatisfactory. Mr. VANCE said it would - be desirable not to proceed on these votes until the report of the committee was be fore the house. That committee was chiefly composed of English members, and they had nearly unanimously come to a decision to increase these grants, though the majority were English members. Mr. V. SCULLY could not see the great advantage of the Vaccine Establishment, when so much money was spent on English officials. These Dublin hospitals were national institutions, which were of general benefit to the country. Lord J. RUSSELL, with regard to the suggestion of the hon. member for Manchester, said that some years ago a committee had reported on the miscellaneous estimates, but until the report of the committee had been received on this subject the Government could not propose any altera tion or increase in this particular estimate. He trusted that the present vote would be agreed to. Mr. BRIGHT said he had been on a committee on offi cial salaries with the noble lord, which made recommenda tions which would have effected a saving of 75,0001. a year, and yet the noble lord had not sought the change recommended. (A. laugh.) What he (Mr. Bright) desired was, a committee which should revise the estimates annu ally, with functions something like those exercised by the railway board. Mr. V. SMITH deprecated the executive abandoning their legitimate functions to any such committee. (Hear.) He did not object to occasional committees which should consider the general subject of reduction of the estimates. He considered it a disgrace for Irish members to ask for votes for Irish hospitals which in England and Scotland were supported by voluntary contributions. (No, no.) The Vaccine Establishment, to which allusion had been made, was open to the people of the three countries, and he deprecated Ireland appealing in forma pauperis in this manner. Mr. GROG AN contended that the evidence on which the committee had recommended the reduction of these grants was almost nil. Such was the feeling of the noble earl, now Foreign Secretary, but formerly Lord Lieu tenant of Ireland, with regard to the importance of these hospitals, that notwithstanding the report of the commit tee, lie prevailed upon the Treasury to continue them on the reduced scale. (Hear.) The vote was then agreed to. The votes, 11,859/. for the House of Industry; 5001., Female Orphan House; 1,2151., Westmoreland Lock Hos pital ; 5001., expenses of the Lying-in Hospital, and 7951. for Dr. Steevens' Hospital ; 1,9)0l. for the House of Re covery of the Fever Hospital; also a vote of 2501. for the Hospital of Incurables, were agreed to. The CHAIRMAN reported progress, and the house resumed. The Poor Law Board Continuance Bill was read a third time and passed. The Union Charges Continuance Bill was read a third time and passed. The Indemnity Bill was read a third and passed. The Insurance on Lives (Abatement of Income Tax) Continuance Bill was read a third time and passed. On the motion for the General Board of Health Bill going through committee, ' Mr. WYSE objected to the Speaker leaving the chair, as he intended to move that the bill be read that clay six months. If the house were desirous of going on with the measure—as it was a matter of importance to his parishion ners (laughter)—he meant his fellow-parishioners (renewed laughter)—he was prepared to go on with his objections. (No, no.) Sir MOLESWORTH would defer the bill till Thurs day, at 12 o'clock. On the motion for the second reading of the Episcopal and Capitular Estates Management Bill, Mr. LIDDELL said he hsd objections to the principles of this bill, and hoped it would not be proceeded with. Mr. A. PELLATT said ho objected to the second read ing, and would oppose it at every stage. He begged to move it be read that day six months. The house were about to divide r when it was discovered that there was no one but Mr. Pellatt against the bill, so that there could be no teller. This fact being declared, amidst great laughter, the division did not take place, and the bill was read a second time. TOWNS IMPROVEAENT (IRELAND) BILL. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL for Ireland moved the third reading of this bill. Lord NAAS said there must be some discussion on the amended clauses, and it could hardly be taken to-night. (Hear, bear.) Sir J. YOUNG proposed taking the third reading then, and postponing the discussion until the question that the bill do pass. Mr. I. BUTT said this was scarcely possible. The bill was postponed. USURY LAWS REPEAL BILL. On the order for the second reading of this bill, Mr. CHRISTOPHER objected, in the absence of the Chancellor of the Exchequer. (Hear, bear, and laughter.) PUBLIC STATUES BILL. The Lords' amendments to this bill were considered and agreed to. BRIBERY BILL. This bill was postponed. COMMON LAW PROCEDURE BILL. This bill was postponed. YOUTHFUL OFFENDERS BILL. This bill was likewise postponed. VACCINATION ACT AMENDMENT BILL. On the order for the second reading of this bill, Mr. BRADY objected that the legislation on the subject was extremely imperfect and unsatisfactory. Ho should propose amendments accordingly. Bill read a second time. PUBLIC LIBRARIES ACT. This bill was read a third time and passed. BENEFICES AUGMENTATION BILL. This bill was postponed. MERCHANT SHIPPING BILL. This bill was read a third time. On the question that it pass, Mr. GEORGE said he hoped its operation would not be postponed (as was now proposed) until August. Mr. J. O'CONNELL parti cu l ar ly dwelt on the subject of protection to deck passengers. Mr. CARDWELL said there was especial provision for deck passengers. As to the time of its coming into opera tion, the complexity of its details required some interval for preparation. Several verbal amendments having been agreed to, the bill wag passed. The Lords' amendments to the Church Buildings Acts Amendment Bill were considered, and agreed to. The Linen, &c., Manufactures (Ireland) Bill and the Turnpike Acts Continuance (Ireland) Bill were read a third time, and passed. The Lords' amendments to the Witnesses Bill were con sidered, and agreed to. Mr. WILSON obtained leave to bring in a bill to con tinue an act of the 12th year of the reign of her present Majesty for anieudinl; , the laws relating to savings banks i❑ Ireland. Mr. GROGAN obtained leave to bring in a bill for the registration Of bills of sale (Ireland). Mr. FITZROY obtained leave to bring in a bill to au thorise the enclosure of certain lands, in pursuance of the report of the Enclosure Commissioners for England and Wales. au . , , l ,l r . . g e ol N a ß m, D , : r l e ' m E t L o r h , e ob ru t , : t i. n ii u le r c a l e l t e u a r v e e d t : o it bring an b d i a ll ra t s o . Lord PALMERSTON . moved for leave to bring in a bill (so. 2 ) to regulate the police of counties. various in s ta : forAtlnre.repLloilticleS'Bllilnf E d e ß fe s r a c i u d c e the o noble those lord in euu N b v e i withdrew d w re h w o his re sameprented towns. He hoped the noble lord would pay the consideration to those members who represented the rural interest. If the noble lord desired to place the po3llicre malllLo}:B73:..nriglaEntcplEoBn, a t n h e e t3 s l a r me footing, the charge ought to be thrown on the Consolidated Fund. a t the Siret jth. late lo p l rxpdeirnNi not to t TO O Of a tx t h t proceed attempt :Postaitoo urged postponement,. H e E d N N L y l i : t l h r htahve having measure ss auurge dirde that no efficient police force could bo established until the , _ • polico of the smaller boroughs were amalgamated with the county force. Lord PALMERSTON agreed with the last remark of the right hon. baronet. The present measure did not origi nate with the Government but with the house. His belief was that before next session considerable inconvenience would be found in counties from the want of such a mea sure ; but he had done his duty, and if county members desired that it should be postponed till next session he would not now press it. (Hear.) Motion accordingly withdrawn. The house then adjourned at ten minutes before two o'clock. PARLIAMENTARY DIVISION. HOUSE OF COMMONS-JuLY 3. CONSOLIDATED CHARGES BILL. Amendment proposed, at the end of the schedule, to add the words " the President, Vice-President, and students of Maynooth College, and the expenses of the establishment, enacted by 8 and 9 Vic., c. 25"—(Mr. Spooner) : Question put, " That those words be there added :"—The house divided ; ayes, 90 ; noes, 10G. AYES-90. Aglionby, H. Forbes, W. Moody, C. Anderson, Sir J. Freest nu, Col. Mow bray, J. Arbnthnott, Gen. H. Gardner, It. Mu it tz, G. Bankes, Rt. lion. G. George, J. Noel, G. Barnes, T. Graham, Lord M. North, Col. J. Beach. Sir M. Gr, enall, Gilbert Pakington, Sir J. Bell, J. Grogan, Edward Palmer, Robert Bentinek, G. Hamilton, G. A. Pellstt, A. Beresford. Rt. Hn. W. Banbury, lion. S. Pigott, F. Blair, Col. J. H. Hastie, Alex. Pilkington, J. Bright, J. Hastie, Archd, Robertson, P. Brocklelturst. J. Hawkins, W. Sawle, C. I.:rook°, Sir A. B. Hayes, Sir E. Seymour. W. Butler, C. S. Borstal!, T. Smijth, Sir W. Butt, I. Hotham, Lord Smith, W. Cairns, B. Hume, W. Stafford, A. Challis, T. JollitTe, Sir W. Ta) lor, Col. T. Child, Smith Jones, Capt. T. Thompson, G. Collier, R. P. Keating, 11, L L e an e, g w ton . , 11. G. Tollemache, J. Cowan, C. King, J. Tyler, Sir G. Crook, J. Kinnaird, A. Vance, J. Crossley, F. Knox, W. S. Vysc,, Col. R. Wa:pole. S. Whitmore, H. Disraeli, Rt. Lion. B. Lennox, L or d A . F . Wi se , A. Drummond, H. le u ,. Viscount Liddell, H. G. Yorke, E. Duncan, Lockhart, W. Davison, D a irY rn P G. Dunclas, F. MacGregor Jas. Dunlop, A. MeTaggart, Sir J. Ellice, E. Matins, R. Evelyn, W. Miali, E. Spooner, R. Floye r, J. Montgomery, Sir G. Newdegate, C. NOES-106. TELL EBS. Atherton, W. Geach, C Peel, F. Raines, Rt. Hon. M. Goderich, Viscount Perry, Sir T. 13,01, J. Goold. W. Phi dimore, J. G. Baring, F. Greene, Capt.'John Phlnn, T. Bellew, T. Gregson, Samuel Pollard-Urquhart W Berkeley. G. Grevilie, Colonel F. Potter, R. Bethell, Sir R. Grey, Rt. Hon. Sir G. Roebuck, J. Blackest, J. F. B. Hervey, Lord A. Russell, Lord J. Brady, J. Heywood, J. Russell, F. W. Bramston, T. W. Heyworth, L. Sadleir, James Brotherton, J. Higgins, G. 0. Sadleir, John Bruce, Lord E. Horsman, E. Seholefleld, W. Burke, Sir T. Howard, Lord E.- Scobell, Capt. G. Cardwell. E. Hutchins, E. Scully, F. Castlerosse, Via, Hutt, W. Scully. V Cayley, E. S. Keating, R. Seymour, H. Clay, Sir W. ti t. Kennedy. T. Shea, Serjt. W. Cobden, R. Keogh, W. Shelley, Sir J. Cockburn, Sir A. J. E. Kirk, W. Strickland, Sir G. Cogan, W. H. F. Lindsay, W Strtitt, E. Corbally, M. E. Locke, J. Sutton, J. Drumlanrig, Vie. Lowe, R. Tancred, 11, Dunne, Col. F. Lucas, F. Thornely. T Eicho, lord M'Cann. J. Walmsley, Sir J. Ellice, E., jun. MacMahon, P. Wilkinson, W. Elliot, J. E. Maguire, J. F. Williams, M. Esmonde, J. Moffatt, G. Williams, W. Fagan, W. Molesworth, Sir W. Wilson, J. Feilden, M. Monsell, W. Wood, Sir C. Ferguson, Sir R. Murrough, J. Wrightson, W. Fitzgerald,Lt.-G.Sir J Norreys, Sir D. Wyvill, M. Fitzroy, Hon. H. O'Brien, Sir T. Young, Sir J. Forster J. O'Connell, D. Fortescue. C. O'Connell, J. Fox, R. Osborne, R. Fox, W. Palmerston, Viscount Hayter, W. French F. Patten, J. Mulgrave, Earl of TELLERS, PAIRS ON MR. SPOONER'S AMENDMENT ON CONSOLIDATED CHARGES BILL. FOR Cabbell, B. North. Col. J. Baldock, E. Herbert, Sir T. Archdall, M. Gilpin, Col. IL Itolt, P. Hall, Gen J. Codrington, Sir C. W Scott, F. Waddington, D. Egerton E. Packe, C Pugh, D. (lore, W. Goddard, A. Knightley, E. Newport, Viscount. Forester, Col G. Fuller A. Dalkeith, Earl Ker, 0, Drag, J. Leslie, C. P. Vane, Lord A. Welby, Sir G. Somerset, Capt. H. Hamilton, J. H. Stanley, Lord Miles, W. 31 eu x, Sir H Mandeville, Vis. Sturt, H. Dod, J. W. Vansittart, G. Knatchhali, W. Kelly. Sir F, Macartney, G. Clinton, Lord C. P. P. Burrell, Sir C, Smith, M. Deedes, W. Smith, Abel Sotheron, T. Verner,Sir W. Jocelyn, Viscount Williams, T. Bateson, Capt T. Maddock, Sir T. H. Hilyard, R. C. Freihtleld, J. Jones, D. Bernard, Vis. Stafford, Marquis Bective, Earl Neeld, John Davie, Sir H. R. F. Duncombe, Hon.W. Hamilton, Lord C. Newark, Viscount Booker, T. W. AGAINST Villiers, E. Vivian, H. 11. Ferguson, Col. Forester, Col. G. Marioribatiks, D. Dering Rh* B. C. North, F. Heneage, Geo. H. Jermyn, Earl Hawkins, W. Layard, A. H, Glyn, G. Carter J. Shelburne, Earl Clifford,Col. IL M. Byng, G. Howard, Lord Price, W. Herbert, H. Robartes, T. Forster, J. Fitz Gerald, J. Shaft° R. Otway, A. Adair, H. Sheridan, R. Cavendish, G. Biddulph, R. M. Buckley, Gen. Milner, W. Hogg, Sir J. W. Currie, Raikes Monck, Viscount Waterpark, Lord Caulfeild, Gen. J. Smith, J. A. Mackinnon, W.A. A'Court, C. Massey, W. Price, Sir R. Rumba!, C. Whitbread. S. Ponsonby, A. Divert, E. Grenfell, Chas. Johnstone, Sir J. Pinney, W. Mitchell, T. Coote, Sir fl. H. Ricardo, 0. Meagher, T. Vivian, J. H. Grosvenor, Ld. R. Dent, J Berkeley, 11. F. Ileatheoat, Sir G. Warner, E. Ramsden, Sir J. lieadiarn, T. Grosvenor, Earl Most yn, E. Smith, R. Foley, J. Castlerosse, Viscount Russell, F. C. COURT OF BANKRUPTCY.-July 1. IN RE CHARLES MATHEWS. His Honour to-day gave judgment on the question of certificate. He said—Mr. Charles Mathews, the emi nent actor, having become bankrupt, and having passed his last examination, applied for his certificate about a week ago, his application being not only unopposed, but supported by a paper signed by almost all his creditors, which was in these words :—" We, the undersigned creditors of Mr. Mathews, beg most respectfully to ex press our unabated confidence in him, and to request, if it be not improper in us to interfere, that your Honour ma y be pleased to award an immediate and high class certificate," This paper was signed by his largest cre ditor, Mr. Allcroft, and by the Marquis of Abercorn, also a large creditor, and by other creditors of amounts varying from hundreds to sums of 201. and under. I should have been glad to have relieved - Mr. Mathews's anxiety at once, but I knew so little of the case, owing to there being no dissatisfied creditor, and therefore no discussion before me at any stage of the proceedings. that I felt it necessary to call for the papers and examine them at home. I have now done so, and am happy to find that I can comply with the wishes of the creditors and give him a first class certificate. (Applause.) The outline of his case is as follows :—ln 1838 Mr. and Mrs. Mathews were induced by very tempting offers—offers which held out the realisation in a short time of 20,0001. and upwards, to go to America. They were at that time managing the Olympic Theatre, which had for many years been a successful undertaking. Unfortu nately their voyage to America ended in entire disap pointment, and during their absence the Olympic ceased to be successful, so that the result was, that Mr. Ma thews, whilst gaining nothing in America, lost about 3,0001. in this country. Mr. M a th ews see i ng no hope of retrieving so great a loss a t so small a theatre, was induced to accept an off er , seemingly very advan tageous, of a lease o f Covent Garden Theatre, but after be had struggled through three seasons the theatre was taken from him, all his theatrical pro perties were seized, and he found himself charged with several thousand pounds for rent, the justice of which charge, however, he never acknowledged. This though mistaken com pelled him to have reco urse to the Insolvent De b tors ' Court, which granted hi m the usual relief. Unfortu nately, under the influe nce of a high sense of honour, he w as no sooner relieved by t h e In solvent Debtors' Cou r t t h an he renewed such of hi s d e bt s as be thought were j ust l y due, by giving his acceptances for them to the am ount of 3,000/. This, of course, in volved him in fresh difficulties for the acceptances were passed to person s who had no scruple in su i ng upon them, and in a short time his difficulties were as great as ever, and in 1843 he found himself again obliged to apply to the law for relief. Relief was again granted, but unfortunately, un warned by the past, he would not retain the protection of the law, but endeavoured, by means of Mr. Delafi e ld, to make a private arrangement pay his cr e di tors 6s, Bd. in the pound, and, thinking he had arranged it successfully, be procured his petition to be dismissed. Mr. Delateld was prevented from cir cumstances, from and Mr. Matthews was, in consequence unable h to is p p a a y rt, the last instalment, the non-payment of which placed him in his old posi tion. His debts were revived. Meanwhile a capitalist had offered to assist him in taking the Lyceum Theatre, and so decoratin it and furnishing it to 'rake it attrac tive, rid havin g determined to engage in this specula tion, he spent a large sum, and incurred a large debt in carrying it out ; but, unfortunately, when the expense had been incurred, and the debt had to be paid, the ca pitalist fail e d , and Mr. Matthews found himself in greater difficulties th an ever. Still he strugg l e d on till 1851, w h en he found himself again compelled to invoke the aid of the law, His case happened to come before me, and he sought reli e fi under a modern ac t, w hi c h p rov id es f or pri vate arrangem en t s. At first I was impressed with the feeling that his case was not one entitling him to the pri vilege of arranging his affairs privately, but that he ought to settle iu open court, and I refused to sanction the proceeding ; but upon having the case more fully inquired into by an accountant named by myself, and being furnished with full details by that accountant, I decidedto protect him, and accordingly he was protected under that petition, on certain terms approved by his creditors, one of those terms being that the accountant named by me should keep the accounts of the theatre, and act as trustee of any surplus for the creditors. Under that protection and ari angement Mr. Mathe ws continued his theatrical exertions till the time of his bankruptcy, the Lyceum furnishing him and Mrs. Mathews with a moderate though decent return for their exertions, and paying its way till the Easter season of 1853 again brought him into difficulties from which his only rescue was, what lie had been constantly though foolishly endea vouring to avoid, bankruptcy. I say, foolishly, because to an honest debtor bankruptcy is the best protection. It will be seen from the above detail, that his life from the moment of his departure for America to the present time has been a constant struggle with difficulties, diffi culties against which it was vain to contend, because he was always in the position of a man trying to swim with a stone round his neck; he was overweighted with debt. He has been guilty of no dishonesty, no extravagance, that I can see. The only fault he had committed is one which, though in my opinion the greatest of faults--,I bad almost said crimes—public opinion will not regard as such, the fault or crime of flying in the face of the law on two occasions by rejecting its provisions anti Tllk SUN, T.4oNpp i ls,l l TITESDAIT G, J ALL Y 4, 1854, — substituting his own notions of right. in 1842, w - hen he applied to the Insolvent Debtors' Court, the law took all he had, but left his talents and industry unbur dened with debt ; he rejected this advantage and re vived debts to the amount of 3,0001., thus wronging him self and inflicting a cruel injustice on his future credi tors. I say a cruel injustice, because no man has a right to commence a career which of necessity involves the incurring new debts whilst burdened with old debts which he cannot have assets to meet except such as may be obtained from new creditors. Such a system is, in fact, 'robbing Peter to pay Paul. He repeated the same fault in. 1843. He had again obtained from the law that protection which was necessary to enable him to do jus tice to future creditors, yet he procured his own petition to be dismissed, and thus threw away that protection, and placed his new creditors again at the mercy of his old. I hope that he will not do so again. Indeed, if I thought be would, I would not grant him any certifi cate at all, for if I did I should feel I was entrapping future creditors. It may be difficult to persuade the world that such conduct is a crime, bui; in my opinion it}is a commercial crime of a deep die, a crime which nothing could extenuate, except a warning to each new creditor, without incurring a new debt, that he had by his own act made that law, which professed so send him back into the world of industry a new man owing nothinri, a mockery and a snare to new creditors. 'I give Mr. Matthews a first-class certificate with pleasure, and I hope his future career may be more fortunate in its pecuniary results than his former exertions have been,. Of course if, after fulfilling all new obligations, he at any time found himself in possession of a surplus, which he could justly divide amongst old creditors, and his high sense of honour disposed him so to do, to such a course no exception could be taken. . The decision was received with applause. Mr. Whitmore, the official assignee, reported on the case as follows :—The plaintiff was the lessee of the Lyceum Theatre, has been in difficulties since 1838, when, as lessee of the Olympic Theatre, he incurred a considerable loss, from the effects of which he has never recovered. By that loss, and by the loss at Covent Garden in the year 1842, he became so involved that in that year he was compelled to petition the Insol vent Debtors' Court, in which he got his discharge. He appears, hoWever, to have renewed immediately afterwards many of his old debts, for which he gave acceptances, which, passing into the hands of third parties, the holders took proceedings upon them as they became due ; and in 1843 he was again compelled to seek pro tection, when he petitioned the Court of Bankruptcy as an insolvent debtor, under the sth and 6th Vie,, cap. 1] 6. This petition was annuled on the creditors agree ing to accept a composition of 6s. Bd. in the pound. Mr. Mathews, however, was not able to ca rr y th a t arrangement entirely into effect, and having already lost the protection of the Court by the annulling of his peti tion, his unsatisfied debts again pressed upon him. In 1851 he petitioned the Court, under the 7th and Bth Vic., cap. 70, when an investigation was instituted, un der the direction of the Court, as to the origin of his then difficulties, which were ascribed by Mr. Mathews to his having been induced by the prospects of success, in which he had been disappointed, to incur a large out lay in re-decorating and embellishing the Lyceum Thea tre, and by the joint affidavit (filed upon the proceedings of Mr. Thomas, who prepar e d th e accoun t o f M r . Mathews, it wiliamount to 9,3301.) Mr. Mathew's pro position, under this proceeding, was to the followin: effect :—That trustees should be appointed, to whom the profits of the threatre (which, from the great undis puted influx of visitors to the Exhibition in 1851, were expected to reach a large sum) should be paid over for division among the creditors. Mr. Mathews, however, in common with other theatrical managers, miscalcu lated the effect of that Exhibition upon the theatres, in asmuch as, between the date of the petition in April and the time when the masses began to visit London,, there was a loss of 2,5601. 10s. id., and the subsequent large receipts only recompensed this loss, and the profits by the end of the season were 4701., which was insufficient to pay the rent of the theatre during the time of its close from October to Christmas. The subsequent proceed ings as to the threatre do not appear to call for any particular remark except the part to which Mr. Mathews ascribes his present difficulties, viz., the Easter of 1853, by which a loss was incurred prior to the end of the season of 3,2261. The result of it all is, that since the date of the petition for arrangement in 1851, the deficiency has increased from 17,7271. to 22,4451. ; the increase being accounted for by in terim law costs and necessary personal expenses, ex ceeding in amount' the profits of the theatre and of Mr. Mathews's professional engagement. The bank rupt has no assets whatever ; neither under the cir cumstances ought it to be otherwise, for he has not had for many years the means of either giving credit or of accruing property. The furniture of his house was originally rented, and the subsequent arrangement for the purchase of it from economical motives was ulti mately obtained. The bankrupt has given all the as sistance required in the office of the official assignee. Mr. Mathews, in a printed statement dated Lyceum, May 5, 1854, has related, the history of his case, the principal facts of which being vouched are embodied in this report. ROYAL ?BEE HOSPITAL. THE 'ALLEGED DEATH FROM A SURGICAL OPERATION. The Wheatsheaf Inn, Kenton-street, having been found insufficient for the accommodation of the jury, the barris ters, and the vast crowds of medical men who have mani fested an interest in the proceedings, the adjourned inquiry yesterday was held, in the Court of the Sheriff of Middle sex, Red Lion-square. Elizabeth Ritssen, a nurse in-King's College Hospital, said she was one of.the assistant nurses of the Royal Free Hospital.when the operation was performed upon the de ceased child. Anne:Fanlkner, the day nurse, took the child from the ward to the operating room. Soon after 1 o'clock it was brought back, and taken in again before two. She heard Mr. Weedon. Cooke and Mr. T. Wakley speaking about having the operation. Mr. Wakely thought he had a right to the ca e, as it came in , on Tuesday, but Mr. Cooke held that it was brought in upon the Friday, and he con sidered that it was his case. Eventually it was settled for slr. Cooke to have it. Mr. Scobell was present at the time. The child was brought back to the ward after the opera tion, about four o'clock. The nurse (Faulkner) said she thought the child would have died before it came out of the theatre. She threw it on the bed, and said it would be a. good job when the little devil was dead, and shook it. There was very little consciousness about the child. It rallied . a little before it died. The witness was subjected to a severe cress-examina tion by Mr. Serjeant Wilkins, in the co urse o f w hi c h much impatience was manifeste:l by the jury. The learned serjeant commented upon this, and added that it was not the first time certain members of the jury had acted so discreditably. Witness proceeded to say that after the operation Mr. Cooke and Mr. Soobell paid great attention to the child, that they visited it frequently at its bedside, and gave it wine and other refreshments. She admitted she had quar relled with Anne F au lk ner, an d cons id ere d s he had - been ill-used by her. By Mr. Clarkson-I\[r. Cooke's conduct to the patients was always kind and attentive. Mr. James Henry Crump, clerk to Mr. Evans, the solici tor, whose name has been mentioned, said he had never told Mr. Brent or Mr. Wakley that the al tered their minds, and would allow the in parents inquest had est to be put an end to, no r anything to that effect. What he said when he went with' Mr. Brent to Mr. Wakley was, that Mr. Evans would not give up h original document, but would pro ducet e_ it whenever it might be required. C ros s-examined by Mr. Parry—He knew that Richard son had signed a pa per, putting off the inquest ; and h e also that Newman, the other clerk, had conveyed it ktonethw ecoroner. Mr. Evans saw Richardson after ho (wit ness) and Mr. Brent had visited him. It was after thi s interview that Mr. Evans sent him to Mr. Wakley, with the message about not giving up the original document. When he called upon Mr. Wakley he thought he said he should come round again. Witness knew that Evans had received money, but he did not know how much. The Foreman (to Mr. Parry)--- I wish you to ask propel' questions. Mr. Parry, addressing the foreman, said—Sir, I beg to say that I think you are utterly incapable of judging what questions it is right for me to put. I would not have made this remark, but that I feel that you have prejudged this case, and are determined not to have an impartial in quiry. The Foreman said—Mr. Parry had misunderstood the nature of his objection. Mr. Parry remarked that it was a curious fact that the .fury never misunderstood Mr. Ballantine. There was a great deal of prejudice on the part of the jury, and he (Mr. Parry) was unfortunately on the wrong side. Mr. Serjeant Wilkins—He (lid not know how Mr. Evans came to be engaged in this case. He knew Mr. Gay (the surgeon who was dismissed from the Royal Free Hospital a few months since), and has seen him at Mr. Evans's office. Mr. Evans was Mr. Child's attorney, but he was not aware that Mr. Child was one of Mr. Gay's committee at the late affair at the Free Hospital. At the suggestion of Mr. BrAlkin, who thought witnesses should be asked something about the parcel of money which was given to Richardson at Mr. Evans's office, Mr. Ballantino examined him upon this point. Witness said he gave him the 20 sovereigns by Mr. Evans's direction the day before the inquest. They were wrapped up loosely in an envelope, which had been used. Richardson called and asked for Mr. Evans. Witness found that Mr. Evris had two gentlemen with him. Mr. Evans, on being informed that Richardson was there, said "Give him this." Richardson said, "Thank you," and added that he would call again. By Mr. Serjeant Wilkins.—No man could doubt on taking the envelope in his hand that it contained money. • Mr. Popham, a witness on a former occasion, was re called, and stated that the whole time occupied by Mr. Wakley, jun., in examining the child was not more than three minutes. As a medical man he should say that Mr. Wakley " examined" the child—he should certainly not call him the operator. He knew nothing of Mr. Wakley or of Mr. Cooke, and had nothing to hope or fear from either of them. By Mr. Serjeant Wilkins—He (witness) was present during the whole of the operation, but he was unable to say whether Mr. Wakley, jun , used the forceps. By Mr. Ballantine—He had . no recollection of having informed Mr. Collette, the solicitor, that Mr. Cooke ope rated upon the child 50 minutes, and Mr. Wakley 30 or 40 minutes. He might have said that what was done was sufficient to bring on inflammation and death. That was a common result of operations for lithotomy. He did not mention Mr. Wakley's name in connection with that state ment. By Mr. Sergeant Wilkins—He never meant to imply by anything he had said that Mr. Cooke operated upon the child 50 minutes. F ) repeated that Mr. Wakley's exami nation of the chill did not occupy more than three minutes. Mr. Edward Headland Greenhough examined—l am a physician, and reside at 77, Upper Berkeley-street, Port man-square, next door to where Mr. Cooke, the surgeon, lives. I was invited by Mr. Cooke to see this operation for lithototny. I have not stated my evidence to any solicitor on either side. I arrived with Mr. Cooke at the hospital about 2 o'clock, and found the child on the operation table. Mr. Cooke first removed a tumour from a girl's arm, which I should think took 20 minutes. While that was going on the child was removed and then brought in again. Mr. Cooke first sounded the child, and then, I think, Mr. Wakley, jun., and Mr. Gant sounded the child. It was not them under chloroform. After it was put under chloroform Mr. Cooke began to operate. Mr. Cooke first used his finger and then the forceps, He said ho.onco held 'the stone between the blades of the forceps. • During the operation Mr. Cooke had several Consultations with 1 Mr. Wakley Attempts were again made to sound for the stone, and the gentlemen listened for the sound of stone. I was one of those who listened, and I should say the sound grated against a hard rough surface. The os sacrum would not come within the definition of a hard rough surface, unless it was denuded. We listened by ear and by stethe scope, and both Mr. Cooke and Mr. Wakley examined the child repeatedly after that. Mr. Cooke introduced the forceps, and Mr. Thomas Wakley introduced his finger and the knife I suppose for the purpose of extending the inci sion. After that Mr. Cooke again used the forceps. (A pair of forceps was introduced to the witness.) That in strument is twice or thrice the size of the instrument used. After Mr. Cou ke had used the forceps some time, he turned round and asked Mr. Wakley to extract the atone. Mr. Cooke was, no doubt, embarrassed at his repeated failures to extract the stone, but I marvelled, all things considered, at his coolness throughout the operation. When he asked Mr. Wakley to search for the . stone, Mr. Wakley introduced his finger, and the impression on my mind was that he also introduced the forceps. That is my impression still. lam perfectly certain that Mr. Wakley made use of an instru ment which at the time I believed was the forceps, ani still believe it. . At that time I had moved round to the head of the table, or I should have been more positive. I had become uneasy about the state of the child, and moved round to the head of the table to feel its pulse. Mr. Wakley's manipulations upon the child did not last be yond five or ten minutes at the very outside. After Mr. Wakley had failed to extract the stone a syringe was brought, and two or three ounces of fluid were introduced into the wound. Daring the interval of sending for the syringe the child recovered partially from the influence of thetchloroform. When the syringe was sent for it seemed a very long time before it came, and I thought it never was coming. After the bladder was injected I don't think anything else was done, and it was thought proper to re move the child from the table and suspend the operation. I am perfectly certain that Mr. Wakley jun., did use the knife to the wound. By Mr. Sergeant Wilkins--Whether Mr. Wakley made any incision with the knife I cannot say, but I am positive that he passed the knife with his finger into the wound. At the conclusion of this witness's evidence the investi gation was adjourned till this daj: SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. TATTERSALL'S-MONDAY. • The business that was transacted afforded little room for comment. In the anticipated absence of any worthy competitor 5 to 2 was betted on Bonnie Morn for the July Stakes. The Knight of St. George was the only horse in demand for the Worcestershire Stakes, and only two or three in- vestments were made on him at the odds quoted. Hungerford maintained his lead for the Liverpool Cup, but was closely pressed by Heapy. Dr. O'Toole was backed for some money at 8 to 1, and Talfourd was in force at 20 to 1. The betting on the Goodwood Stakes showed Diana to be in the ascendant, and that renewed confidence was placed in Pros. Heapy obtained some support at 10 to 1, and a small outlay indicated that some hope was somewhere entertained of the notorious Nancy. The principal bets on the St. Leger were 3 to 1 to upwards of 2001. about Dervish, and 6 to 1 to a good deal of money about the Trapper. For the Derby Oulston was backed at 15 to 1, Bonnie Morn and Dirk Hatteraick at 20 to 1 each, Strood , t 30 to 1, and Dr. Cooke, a new outsider, at 33 to 1. Moon beam, colt, backed for upwards of 5001. at Stockbridge at 30 to 1, receded to 40 to 1 (taken and offered). 50 to 1 was laid to 1001. agst Rambling Katie, and 2,500 to 25 art her winning Derby and Oaks. The prices at the close were as follows :-- NEWMARKET JULY STAKES. sto 2 on Bonnie Morn. WORCESTERSHIRE STAKES. 6to 1 agst Knight of St. George (taken). LIVERPOOL CUP. 4to 1 agst Hungerford (5 to 1 taken). sto 1 agst Heapy (taken). 7to 1 agst Dr. O'Toole (8 to 1 taken freely). 12 to 1 agst Umbriel (taken). 15 to 1 agst Lady Bird (taken). 20 to 1 agst Talfourd (taken). GOODWOOD STAKES. 8 to 1 agst Diana (taken). 10 to 1 agst Heapy (taken). 12 to 1 agst Tros (take n .) _ 20 to 1 agst Nancy (taken.) ST. LEGER. 3to 1 agst Dervish (taken). 7 to 2 agst King Tom (4 to 1 take n ). 6to 1 agst The Trapper (taken). • 10 to 1 agst Ivan (taken). DERBY. 15 to 1 agst Oulston (taken). 20 to 1 agst Bonnie Morn (taken). 20 to 1 agst Dirk Hatteraick (taken). 30 to 1 agst Strood (taken). 33 to 1 agst Dr. Cooke (taken). 40 to 1 agst Moonbeam colt (taken). THE GOOD WEIGHTS COBRECTEI Age st lb Kingston West Australian 4 9 6 Nabob 5 9 4 Defiance 4 9 1 iobnut Rataplan 4 9 1 Stockwell Exact 4 8 11 Crusader 4 8 10 Balrownie Goorkah 4 8 10 Indian Warrior 5 8 7 Muscovite Jerry Kent 4 8 1 Andover 3 8 1 'OOD CUP. DP TO THE 3D INST. Age st lb Jotivence King Tom 3 7 10 Ulster 4 7 8 Hercules 3 7 7 Hermit Aquila Virago '3 7 3 Bracken 3 7 2 Fitz-Gladiator Papillon Roscommon Lincoln's Inn 3 6 13 Erycina Valeria DEATH OF Ma. SAMUEL BEETON. —We regret to an nounce that this ev e nt t oo k place somewhat suddenly last Sunday morning. By a very extensive circle of friends and acquaintance Mr. Beeton was held in the warmest regard for his practical benevolence, cordial sentiments, and strict sincerity. In the sporting world he occupied a very prominent position—the strongest testimony of the zeal with which he espoused theinte rests of the turf being in the establishment of the Great Metropolitan Stakes, and in the general success of the Epsom Spring Meeting. • RACING FIXTI JD' Newmarket Worcester 4 Barnstaple 6 Lancaster 6 Odiham 7 Harrogate 10 Mansfield ll Liverpool 12 Abingdon 13 Ipswich 13 RES FOR 1854. Stourhridge l7 Stamford Newton .18 Knutsford... l9 Nottingham 2O Great Grimsby. 24 Goodwood 25 Radcliffe 3l Deritend Pool 3l Ripon 31 SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE. VESSELS SPOKEN TH'. The Contest, Port Philip t o London, Wl April 19, lat. 58 S., long. 110 W. The Palemon, Marseilles to Mauritius, April 24, lat. 28 S., long. 27 W. The Onesca, Liverpool to Calcutta, April 25, lat. 26 S., long. 27 W, The Roseanoa, Valparaiso to Swansea, April 26, lat. 25 S., long. 27 W. The Gleniffer, Callao to Cork, June 16, lat. 28 N., long. 33 W. The Lucy Sharp,. Penang to London, June 17. The Ardencaple, Callao to Cork, June 19, lat. 35 N., long. 36 W. Tie Agra, Colombo to London, June 26, lat. 46 N., long, 15 W. The Accident, Cardiff to Gaboon, April 22, lat. 1 N., long. 4 E. A steamer, brig rigged, steering to the southward, May 14 lat. 5 S., long. 22 W. The Emma Lillio, London to Sydney, May 17, lat. 2 N., long. 25 W. An American ship, bound southward, with black horse in a white flag, June 13, lat 35 N., long. 40 W. The Philo (barque), o - Scilly, June 25; the Passenger, for "Carthagena, same clay. The Admasta, Singapore to London, May 12, lat. 5 S, 18 W. The Elise (French barque), Madras to Bordeaux, May 26, lat. 14 N, long. 31 W. The John (Danish brig), May 29, lat. 19 S, long. 22 W. The African, for Calcutta, June 15, lat. 32 N., long. 38 W. - - - The Lady Kennaway, June 17, lat. 31, long. 33. The Eleanor (barque), June 27, outward bound. The Leinder, Colombo to London, April 12, lat. 8 S., long - . 85 E. The Faithful, Colombo to London, May 1, lat. 29 S., long. 40 E. The Christabel, Mauritius to London, June 3, long. 7 N., long. 26 W. The Patriot King, Bombay to London, June 8, lat. 20 N., long. 38 W. The Lady Lydia, June 26, lat. 48 N., long. 10 W. The Unicorn, bound to London, lat. 6 N., long. 23 W. The Black Prince, Valparaiso to Liverpool, June 14, lat. 30 N., long. 42 W. The Boinbai Castle, Cape of Good Hope to London, June 18, lat. 35 N., long. 38 W. The Sampson (steamer), Clyde to Sydney; New South Wales, Lat . 3 N., long. 10 W., 24 d ays out. The Marshall Bennett, for Australia, May 21, lat. 5 N., long. 22 W. The Tally-ho, for Melbourne, May 22, lat. 6 N., long. 23 W. The Surprise (sloop), of Bideford, from the Clyde, May 25, lat. 6 N., long. 24 W. The Ostrich ; Southampton to Port Adelaide, May 12, lat. 3 N., long. 21 W. The Alexander Johnstone, May 21, lat. 8 N., long. 22 W. The Fatima, Calcutta to Liverpool, June 13. The Don Quichotte (French ship), Buenos Ayres to Havre, June 18. The 11yswyk, London to Bombay, May 23, lat. 2 N., long. 29 W. The Severn, Gloucester, to Melbourne, May 31, lat. 6 N., long. 29 W. The Africa, Calcutta to Liverpool, out 109 days, lat. 29 N., long. 39 W. The Ballarat (ship), of and from London, May 16, lat. 1 S., long. 29 W. The Vixen (schooner), Glasgow, outward bound, June 30, lat. 50 N, long. 5 W. The Susan Jane, Saldanha. Bay to Queenstown, June 20, lat. 37 N, long. 36 W. The Scotia (brig), homeward bound, June 18, lat. 34, long. 37 W. The Walcheren, homeward bound, May 23, lat. 11 S., long. 12 W. _ _ The Audubon, Calcutta to London, May 30, lat. 1 N., long. 22 W. The Duke of Lancaster, Madras t 9 Loudon, June 5, lat. 12, N., long. 30 W. The Ida (ship), of Liverpool, May 5, lat. 18 8,, bag. 39 W Ellen (barque), from Callao, earn° day. COUNTBY MARKET& CHELMSFORD—J - 41'NR 30. There was little business transacted in wheat to-clay, and that at a reduction of fully is to 2s. Spring corn a flat sale, barely maintaining la.t week's prices. Prices to-day were as follow :—Wheat, white, old 60s Od to 82s Od, new 60s to 83s ; red, old 50s to 78s, new 50s to 78s ; barley, 27s to 35s ; chevalier, 33s to 38s ; grindinc, 21s to 30s ; malt, 71s to 75s ; chevalier, 74s to 78s ; oats, 26s to 338 ; peas, partridge, 40s to 45s ; white, 47s to 495; boiling 54s to 618; dun, new 40s to 42s ; beans , tick, 411 to 44s ; Harrow tick s , 39 3 to 47s ; Iliazagan, 40s t° 449. COLCHESTER —JuLT 1. Prices to-day were as follow :—Wheat, white, 76s to 861; red, 72s to 80s ; b ar l e y, 34 s t o 388 oats, 30s 14343 • beans, ; Mazagan, 42s to 44s ; middl e and mall, 46s to 48s; peas, white, 56s to 60s ; grey, 42s to 445. Official Statement of the Quantities of Corn, in the port o f L on d on , f rom th e follosvin the 26th Juno to the Ist July, both inclus &c., receivea )g ports, from live. 44 . 8 .2 . 4 4 4 s 1 Colchester Harwich Leigh Maldon - - ' 340 121 - - 872 81 , 70, ii s KIRKCALDY—JuLy 1. Here to-day we had a fair supply of wheat, moderato of oats, and a iew sacks of barley. Wheat and oats sold at a reduction, the former of 2s, and the latter is per qr. Barley sold at is under last day's rates. Wheat. Barley. O a t s . I B eans . First 76s Od I 39s 01 I 37s 6d i Os (hl Second d Third Oatmeal, per bag of 2801bs imperial, 508 Od to 52s Od. T.--JuLY 3. he close of the market. WaUsend, Ste. E. d• Belthont ig 6 Hetton 2l 0 Haswell 21 3 • Plummer • • 20 0 South Hetton 20 9 Stewart's. ' 21 0 Caradoe Hetton Hartlepool 2O 6 Eleugh Hall 20 0 South Kelloe 20 0 Tees . • 21 0 West Kelloe 19 6 Whitworth lB 6 Grey's West Hartley l7 9 RAIL WAY SHARE MARKET. LIVERPOOL, JULY 3. STOCK EXCHANGE.—The market has been flat to-dais at a decline of 1 to 2 per cent. on all the leading stock/. from the rates current on Saturday.—Caledonian, 31i; East Lancashire, 164 ; Lancashire and Yorkshire, 66; Loudon and North-Western, 105 ; Midland, ts6l; Newry and Enniskillen, 51 dis. ; South-Eastern, 19g. MANCHESTER, JULY 3. STOCK EXCHANGE.—The market to-day opened eon• siderably worse than on Saturday, and prices were not equal to those obtained on that day. The sales were Blackburn, 4 15-16, 5 ; East ern C oun ti es, 13 5 -16 ; E as t Lancashire, 16a • Lancashire and Yorkshi re , 664 ; L on don and North-Wes tern, 1054 ; ditto, Manchester and Bir• mingham, Quarters C, # prem. • Manchester, Sheffield, and Lincoln, 21i ; Midland R ailway Consols, 664, I; South-Eastern, 19 5-16, s. SEABORNE MAILS. (N signifies that the malls are sent from the General Post-office by the night—and Mby the morning—despatch.) Day when made un From was whoa COUNTRIES. in General Post- Port due in Office, London.. Dispatched. En:riand. Every Friday .. Liver , America (by United Sts. packet) ..........N •• .• . Liverpool .. July 5 America (by U. States packet) ..........N Southampton Australia (via South ampton) ..........M June 4 ...... Southampton Jnly 4 Ditto (via Marseilles) NI . . Dover Ditto (via Cape of Good Hope) June 1 .. • ... Uncertain Africa (West Coast) ..N,23d of the month . Plymouth .. July 6 Alexandria.......... N 8,9, 24, & 30 of m. Dover .... Alex andria........ ..M 4th & 20th of mon. Southampton Bahamas ...........M 17th of the wont! Southampton Southampton Dover. July 16 Buenosße Brazil lgi il n . A . y : ..111 9th9l ) t. h a l o o Y f f fi e .; n 4: ; i month.. month., Southampton Cape of Good Hope ..N 14th of the montt , Plymouth Cape of Good Hope ..N 14th of the month'. Southampton Cape de Verde ......N 14th of th e month Southampton Ceylon (see India) Ceylon ..............N 14th of the month Channel Isles .. ..NlMon..Wed.,&Frid. Southampton,Tu.Th.gat* Chili • ....... i2d &17th of wont ! S outhampton; China (see India) Constantinople ......N 17,8,17,24,&27 o f m. Dover Constantinople 4th & 26th of mon. .Dover I Cont. of Europe N (Twice daily ..... Dover ..... I.rwiceasus . Twicadaill Egypt (see India) France .. M & NlTwie. daily Gibraltar ..... 21,4, 7, 17, 20, 27 of m Southampton Greece (see India) Greytown ..Mi2nd & 17th of mon.,Southampton Arrived Hamburgh ..........NiTuesday & Frida3 London ..... I Havannah .......... 51 2nd of the moot! Southampcor, 'Aug. I Holland M'Daily...... Dover Honduras .......... 11,f 17th of the month, Amithampto,. June i Endia (viaSouthampt.)M.4th & 20th of mon. Plytnarth • • July 4 India (via MarSeilles)3l,Blh&24th of month Dover ...... lonian isles (see IndlaX7, 17, &27 of mon Dover.. ; Ireland ........M &N, Twice daily Holyhead .. Twleedaitf Lisbon 9, 17.& 27 of m. Southampton 'July 6 Madeira 9th of the month Southampton .Madeira of month .... Plymouth .. Malta (see India) Malta 7,17,19,27, 30 of m. , Dover Mauritius (see India) Mauritius 14th of the month Mexico .... ~m 2nd of the month., Southampton Aug. 1 Naples s thlsth2.sthofmon. Dover New Granada '2d & 17th of month Southamptor k Arrived New Zealand IBy private skip .. Various port . Uncertain Papal States ........Nlsthlbth2sthoflnon. Dover Peninsula ...... 51I7thl7th28th ofmon. Southampton Peru Port Natal p of the' month Plymoutk Sicily ~ ........... isthlstll 2s thormon ;Dover ...... Tuscany Venezuela 2d&M l7th of month Southampton Arrived Van Diemen's Land (see Australia) - West Indies . m 2d& 17th of montb,Southarnotan July 16 COAL MAR; Prices of Coal per ton at e. d. Bate's West Hartley 17 6 Hasting's Hartley lB 0 Holywell .19 6 Howard's West Hartley Netherton 18 0 North Percy Hartley l7 C Tanfield Moor Butes 17 - 3 Walker Primrose West Pelton l7 Wylam l9 9 Wallsend, &c Halton Wharncliffe Bell 18 9 18 9 19 6 Arrived iSouthampton., (July 16 * despatW hen ed any of dates o a Sunday, the malls be ch on the following day, fall with the exception ot the In dia l * l * Southampton), ar.d the Malta, both of which will be despatched tb . Sep preceding. [ADVERTISEMENT.] Her Majesty's Royal Letters Patent, for valuable and extraordinary improvements is the most powerful and brilliant Telescopes, Camp, Race' course, Opera, and Perspective Glasses, to know the die' tances of objects viewed through them—of great impor tance to the army, navy, and others. Messrs. 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Opel" , race-course, camp, and perspective glasses, with wonderful power; an object can be clearly seen from 10 to 12 miles distant. Newly-invented Spectacles ; immediately the, are placed before extremely imperfect vision, evert object becomes clear and distinct; the most aged, de' fective sight is brought to its youthful, natural, an d ori• ginal state. D ea f ness —N ew Discovery—Me Organic Vi brator, au extraordinary powerful, small, newly-invented instrument, for Deafness, entirely different from all others, to surpass anything of the kind that has been, or pro' bably ever can be, produced. Being of the same, colour as the skin, is not perceptible ; it ena ble s deal persons to hear distinctly at church and at public as' serablies ; the unpleasant sensation of singing noises in the ears is entirely removed ; and it affords all the assistance that possibly could be desired. -39, Albemarle-street, rice cadillv. Observe, opposite the York Hotel. [ADVERTISEMENT.]—The Earl of Aldborough and Holloway's Pills.—An astounding cure by this miracu lous medicine after every other means had failed, See extract from his lordship's letter, dated "Villa Messina, Leghorn, Feb. 21, 1845. To Professor Holloway- Sir—l beg to acquaint you that your pills have effected a cure of a disorder in my liver and stAnach, which all the most eminent of the faculty at honit and all over the Continent had not been able to effect —nay, not even the waters of Carlsbad or Marienbad. (Signed) Ald borough." These wonderful pills will cure any disorders of the liver or stomach.—Sold (also Holloway's oint ment) at Prosessor Holloway's Establishment, 244, Strand, London, and by all medicine-venders through' out the world. BIRTHS. OF A SON. On the 29th ult., at the Rectory, Hertingfordbury; the wife of the Hon. and Rev. Godolphin Hastings. On the 30th ult., in Chester-terrace, Regent's-park, the wife of Captain Fanshawe, R.N. OF A DAUGHTER. On the 30th ult., at Thornycroft Hall, Cheshire, the wife of the Rev. John Thornycroft.• On the Ist inst., at 25, Abbey-place, St. John's-wood, tho wife of George T. Hertalet, Esq. MARRIED. - - On the 12th of May. at Nusserabad, Ensign Arthur Sop• pitt, 10th Regiment N. 1., to Erina, the eldest daughter of Surgeon Maleolmson, 3d Light Cavalry. On the 29th ult., at St. George's, Bloomsbury, Marl, only daughter of Mr. Josh. Timmins, of Bloomsbury-street, to the Rev. William Collins Badger, X.A., of Sherborne, Dorset. DIED. • On the Ist inst., at 40, Upper Bedford-place, Russell• square, Amy Stuart, youngest child of R. C. Carper ter, Esq. On the Ist inst., in his 75th year, the Rev. John Parsone, vicar of Sherborne, Dorset. On the 27th ult., aged 39, Mr. John Cartmale, solicitor, of Lichfield. On the 29th ult., in Suffolk-street, Pall-mall, Capte►ia Harry Atham Cumberloge, of H.M.'s 64th Regiment. 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