The Sun. — London, England, 1863-11-13 00:00:00

THE CIVIL W AR IN AMERICA, (Front the Special Correspondent of the Tones.) NEW YORK, Oct. 30. Unless the been' ',ling, blundering, eccentricities of American stra%ef fists for the hundredth time disap point the world , we are, indeed, on the eve of some great feat of, aims in East Tennessee. Gen. Grant, in comman d of all the forces stationed in Tennessee, Kentucky , Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, and part of West Virginia and North Carolina, is bringing up as T.nany men as he can muster from distances of 200 and even 500 miles to, the rescue of Thomas's array, hemmed 'in and almost beleagured by Bragg's Southerners at Chattanooga. On the other side, Gen. Lee, hating put a spoke in the wheel of the Federal Army of the Potomac by the destruction of the Alexand.rin and Orange Railway, is believed to have sent a, large division of his troops against Burnside on the borders of West Virginia, while it is stated a portion of Bragg's army threatens the rear of the same Burnside on the Tennessee side. The latest tidings of the Northerners at Chattanooga were ':e ther disheartening, for their communications were out off in most directions, and provisions could only reach them by a tedious march over a long and. wretched mountain road, rendered almost im passable by recent heavy rains. Lately, however, if we can give credit to a despatch of the 27th, lenich reached the Cincinnati Gazette on the 29th, % new communication has been thrown open for the benefit of the Federals between Chattanooga and Bridgeport, a place down the Tennessee river, about 3 0 miles below the Federal headquarters, and this Was effected by a sudden attack of the Federals, who succeeded, not only in clearing the left bank of the presence of the? Southerners, but also in driving them from their commanding position on Lookout Mountain. We have, up to this time, no other account of this combat, which is said to have cost tti' Federals only five killed and fifteen wounded, than the somewhat meagre telegram in the Cincin azati Gazette, which, in some unaccountable manner, has in this instance, stolen a march upon the all monopolising Washington official press. The Army of the Potomac, unl er Meade, enj o y s a happy holiday. Some changes in the positi on o f his forces are said to have taken place, with a view to protect the men engaged in the repairs of the damaged railway. The work of construction is pushed on with great eagerness and 15 miles-4 e,, nearly up to Warrenton Junction, are reported as ready for use. General Gilmore seems to have started up from his prolonged nap at Charleston, and, as if to rouse ale other sleepers in the neigh bourhood, has been, on th e 26th, firing away from Batteries Greg.; and Wagner against Forts Sumter and Johnson. It was, however, mere noise, and no hurt. One hundred shots were thrown from Morris Island and 160 from two Monitors which took part in the noisy fireworks. Fort Moultrie thundered in return from the besieged side. It is reported that Gilmore is making ready fora bombardment of the city of Charleston in dread earnest. The New York State election for which the 3d day of Lv e • alber i s appointed seems likely to t urn out rathee a tame affair; It is not about the choice of a n' •tiv Governor, nor about the return of new meath e rs to Vaeir Legislature, astir, 8 . 8 Yu'a are undoubtedly well aware; they are Sim ply co atending about the refilling of some megis- terial offices and naming a few second rate function airiest a matter rather of personal than of great g e net al interest. Every trifle is welcome, however, Whirl offers the least opportunity for a fight. The Der aocrats, borne down by the results of the late struggles in Pennsylvania and Ohio, are further W eakened by internal dissensions; and it is very d eubtful whether all the eloquence of Governor `Seymour, who is expected to address a grand meet ing at the Cooper Institute tomorrow evening, will have power to give weight and consistency to the Conservative vote. By his indecision and faintheart edness during the riots of last July Mr. Seymour threw away a golden opportunity which will never offer itself again. Moreover he is, or professes him self to be, a Unionist, or partisan of the war, " to the, utter subjugation of the South." Now a freak of fortune, some great calamity in East Tennessee, c,r some terrific panic in Wall-street, may perhaps open the way for the triumph of the peace-at-all ;price men of the Fernando Wood and Valland!gham :school; but the views to which Governor Seymou r is wedded are already represented in the Cabinet, and are even supposed to be entertained by the head ie'elf of the executive power, and are consequently of lio weight as au instrument of opposition. Pieced at the top of that see-saw in which the 13Iair-Seward party ore striving to outbalance Mr. Chase, and all tee burden of his million greenbacks, President Lincoln shifts and shuffles with a dexterity little cal culated to confirm the titles of " idiot" and " half witted fellow" with which some journals salute him. Letely he has deemed it good policy to exhibit some leaning towards the Blair faction. These Biaira are a mighty family. They have at 1 their head still living, and from his retirement, still swaying their c oun c ils, that F ranc i s P . Bl a i r, sen. l the right-he n d man o f G en . J ac k son , " whosetren chant batll ) .e-axe hewed down all impediments that stood in old Hickory's way," and who carried the election 1 of that little Dutchman Van Buren, whose I glory was limited to "treading in the footsteps of his ilius t rious predecessor." The Blairs have only one of their name in the Ministry, Mr. Postmaster-General Mnatgoniery Blair, but without the walls they reckon l'e r4 new P. Blair, sen., warrior a n d s t a t es man, in t im u selfh ost, a man gifted, it is said, with all the e7rnyttlnlistments of an Admirable Crichton, stirred tiee, " who :ion fully commensurate with his abili but e4O, __as said to aspire to Presidential honours, pos i,. inn o ldt ,, ehis father, probably considers the of a Ki ng, -k ma t a g-malter fix more enviable than that 7", like his fath e r an d th e w h o l e set of th ere, is . art the ins and outs, with all the machinery, - all the Pipes, wire te s , all the highways and byways, the strategy a n d to ' n r ill eYs, and trapdoors, and all the country, and every of every political party in of Old Cresidential candidate, from the uprising , r•nrar to the advent of ' Old .Abe.' " These Blain; are told, are causing the Frank and Montgomery, we Trrnoinistration a vast deal of trouble. The Chicag o Withene says their course completely identifies them the Copperheads ; and the St. Louis Democrat, a the ace of spades," says that th4 t ? t er " as black as akifrom anyt, line, bob, and sinker, over to the ere gone, "h oo k, real fact is, however , that the Blairs,P g ap artr Pertleade The o i r dizem en sc h e me they may have of personal g are peace men , p romoters of the ea ,,, e any terms that ma y be found consistent peace on the restoration of the Unio n ; and the y are in s °o f a drawn knives with M r. Chase and the , diceae r at lt these latter will only hear of peace and of the Union s itself conditionally upon the total and final ab o li t i on of slavery. The President, as I said, by his an swer to the Missouri Deputation, and by his abandonment of the measure of the draught, at least for the pre. sent, is thought to have evinced a wish to snub the too zealous Republicans, and to let the sun of his countenance shine upon the Conserva tives. There are letters in circulation, signed by some of Mr. Lincoln's intimate friends in Illinois, asserting that `` the President is, and has been for a long time, in favour of peace ;" and hints are even thrown out in some eccentric papers that he is sending out trusty messengers, in the guise of ped lars, scouts, and deserters, to see how the land lies, ;lad acquaint him with any chance that may present l i s, lf for n ego ti a ti on , w h e th er it b e with the rebel e 118 , or with any party among the Southern people whic h a miht show any disposition to come to terms. Without attaching the slighest shape of import ance to this idle gossip, I thnk it is just possible that it may snit the Pr e sident's present mood to humour the B and that peacefully inclined sec tion in hi s ealbaiiiirs, t and ‘ among the public at large which, rejecting the lymphatic" Mr. Seward as a candidate, sh ow a d th sl e , ostion to place him, Mr. Lincoln himself, a t head of the ticket f or th e n. , xt general election. "SecretarySeward and the Blairs," it is already freely blurted out candidate , " have dis covered that the Republican ate for the suc cession sr_ands six feet three inhis stockings, and that his name is ' Honest old Ab e :. s a great a part of the future destinies of this zountry depends on the vicissitudes of the war, a n d it seems so probable, in despite of the ungenerous efforts of the War-office to nip all military vegeta tion in the bud—that some successful commander may secure in his favour the suffrage of the multi tude, and be borne on the shields of his followers to the seat successively occupied by the Jacksons and Taylors, heroes of former wars, that the squabbles of these Cabinet schemes would seem to be, to say the least, strangely premature. Their divisions, however, have their own uses, inasmuch as they draw more distinctly the lines between the political parties, among which they seek their support, and may eventually enable one of them so to fix the principles of the Govern ment as to place it on an intelligible and consistent line of policy. The Blair party, the Conservatives, the Union peace men, are strong in numbers at the present time, and would be further strengthened a few months hence if the snowy curtain of winter were to fall upon the bloody drama of the war be fore any great episode came to relieve its dreary sameness; or if, in the event of a failure of the pre sent Enlistment Act, the desperate measure of the draught ware again to be resorted to. National union is at the top of the thoughts of nine Ameri cans out of ten, but speedy peace would also be popular with the worn out multitude. If those two blessings were to be combined together there cer tainly would be immense rejoicing about the re covery of the strayed Southern sheep and the negro would be the fatted calf immolated to supply the reconciliation feast. Only " how do the Democrats propose to bring about so happy a consummation ?" people inquire. "How do they intend to go to work ? There is something vague, utopian in their plans ; they do not tell us how they could negotiate for union with the South, so stubbornly bent on separation ; they do not acquaint us with the ad vances to be made, or the terms which might prove acceptable, to an enemy who gives no sign of laying down his arms ; and they do not reassure us as to their power of guaranteeing us against the reproduc tion of effects of which they do not propose to re move the causes. To save bath Union and slavery is a very arduous task for the present, and it entails endless difficulties, complications, and new perils for the fatute." On the other hand the programme of the Repub licans, and of the arrant Radicals among them, is extremely simple and easy. They purpose to carry on the War till they have emancipated the last black by the annihilation of the last white. There is something monstrous and atrocious in their views; but the scheme is not only feasible—it is what is already half done, what is being done day by day. General Buller, the man who goes in New Orleans by the name of "Beast Butler," made himself the mouthpiece of this per fectly consistent and intelligible, though ruthless, set of politicians. At a meeting of the Union State League of Massachusetts, held in Boston on Tues day, the General " took ground with those who be lieve the seceded States have annihilated themselves as States, while the power of the general Govern ment still remains intact over their territory. He combated the position of a member of the Cabinet (Postmaster Blair), that ' the rebel commonwealths, by throwing down their arms, should be received into the Union with unimpaired rights, and with their old local institutions.' . . If the Confede rate States were readmitted, and their representa tives took their seats in Congress, before some radi cal change were effected, what guarantee would there be that the Federal National Debt would not be repudiated, or made to stand upon the alternative that the Confederate debt must likewise be paid ? . . . The rebel States must be regarded as de. stroyed, or it would be almost impossible to choose another President, for the reason that no candidate likely to be selected would receive such a support in the North as to give him a majority of the whole electoral college, constituted of all the States, both loyal and rebel." You may perceive by this that the ruin of the South is decreed upon principles of mere reason of State, with which the everlasting negro has but little to do. The North has, by Mr. Lincoln's elec tion, reconquered a supremacy in the Union which had slipped from its hands for nearly a quarter of a century. It is necessary that the South should cease to be, or Northern ascendancy would be im perilled by the tacitly acknowledged fact that the unanimous South would always have it in its power to turn the scales in favour of any of the parties into which the North is hopelessly divided, and with which the South might choose to ally itself. While one orator in Boston appeals to the selfish interests of a coldblooded policy, another in New York strives to stir up the passions of a blind multi tude. Governor Yates, of Illinois, at a large assem• blage in the Cooper Institute last evening, indulged in that strong style of invective which has become so common in this country. " It," he said, "in setting aside your Constitution, if in rebelling against your Government, your pet institution, slavery, dies, I say let it die and be damned for ever." And again —" The traitor has only two rights. He has a right to be hung in this world, and a Divine right to be damned for ever in the next.' Mr. Yates is a pro found admirer of the President, but was "inclined to find fault with him because he was " slow," did not call out a million of men, and did not put forth his edicts of confiscation, emancipation, conscription, &c. He found out, however, after all, that Mr. Lincoln "could not move faster than Providence and God." And when he sent his flaming despatches to the President—" Issue your proclamation of con fiscation, and call out a million of men"—" old Abe" telegraphed back to him, "Dick, hold still, and see the salvation of God." (Tremendous cheering.) Another orator, the Hon. Lewis Barker, said, " We have a missionary spirit in New England. We send Bibles and money and tracts and men for the conversion of the heathen abroad, and we have a hOme missionary spirit sometimes, and when we fail to convert with the Word, we send bombshells and bullets and bayonets, and we prove our prin. ciples orthodox by Apcstolic blows. (Laughter.) We propose to convert and bring back our mis guided brethren into the Union, if we have to do it in the way the Methodist missionary made a convert of the blacksmith on the Blue Ridge—he pulled off his coat, and mauled the grace of God into his unbe lieving soul? It is to this odd mixture of unreason, profanity, and utter blasphemy that this church-going, Bible. reading people are becoming accustomed, as they frequent the school of their rabid stump orators. The multitude follows these rhapsodies but too eagerly. The notion that the Union is to be re established by the utter rain, disfranchisement, and degradation of the " rebel" States gains ground daily, and the only plausible solution of the great national question seems to be that which extreme Radicals recommend. No one can have lived any time in this country without being aware of the immense ground lately gained among all classes of men by the views of the out-and-out Abolitionists. They have no faith in the practicability, and less in L 4 durability, of peace on other terms ; and were it D"Bible to stem the mighty tide, and bring the P tl e i l a e 4a b oite a:k to milder views, any compromise a rate. too late to undo the work of destruc wits Etta said, is going on at so tremendous by tali?, C hattanooga has been made more The new s h ot , intelligible October 31. that on the 27% oa mornin g ' s despatches. It seems jug by force of arhie l t ra i l Smith succeeded in open on athEteanTodrll3nreisdsgeeepßoritv,ear.plaßcye tion between Chattanooga and and water communica tion Confederates on below Chattanooga this movement the position vedugered, and on the 29 r c als without the Look-out Mountain w as by the Southerners midnight, Bridgeport 28th it was abandoned to the attempt at resistance. Oa the any General Hooker was attacked at Brown's Ferry, on the river, betw een and Chattanooga, and, it is said," repulsed b.idgeport The fight by ra 3l'a li eit a ants in grand style." l asted till 4 o'clock in the morning. The co o d u et of the Northern troops is reported as " splendid." The result is the opening of an easy communication f or the Federals both by railway and waggon roads and by the river, relieving them from the worst anxieties of their somewhat distressing position. It is remarkable, indeed, that the Secessionists should have given up Look-out Mountain without firing a shot in its defence ; but it is presumable that Bragg had been compelled to weaken himself on this side in order to have it in his power to detach a large division of hi s f orces aga i ns t Burnside. The posi tion of the latter General, between a part of Lee's Corps and a portion of Bragg's troops, is well Cal- culated to create great uneasiness among the friends of the Federal cause. As was anticipated yesterday, Gilmore opened fire against the city of Charleston on the 27th, throw ing large shells containing Greek fire, No results are as yet known. The American papers seem disposed to make a "prodigious fuss" of the reception accorded by the President to Don Matias Ramero, the Envoy Ex. traordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of the Mexican Republic. The President, however, was exceedingly guarded in his expressions of goodwill towards a State with which amicable relations were never interrupted, and towards an Envoy who had won personal regard in his former residence here. The President simply as3ured M. Ramero that " the people and Government of Mexico had our good will and sympathy," and bade the Envoy welcome to Washington. No allusion to recent events oc curred in the President's answer, and the Minister had been advised to avoid such topics in his address. It remains to be seen what reception is reserved for the Ambassador of the Emperor Maximilian, when ever that potentate chooses to ask for recognition at the hands of the United States' Government. Mr. Lincoln's policy, as we all know, is " one war at a time." The newspapers, however, are already firing from all their batteries against the French invaders, and vowing vengeance against " the combined des potism and aristocracy of the besotted Old World." I have before me a few specimens of the new " fractional currency," several million dollars' worth of which is about to be issued by Mr. Chase. They are, if possible, uglier than the crumpled bits of paper they are intended to supersede. They are not green-backed, but red- backed for 50c. pieces, and purple-backed for 25c. They bear a vignette, with steamers, mail coaches, locomotive engines, and other emblems of a nation's movement and prosperity. The paper is crisp, and rather flimsy. In the centre, in front, is a gold circle in the shape of a little frame surround ing a likeness of Washington, so clumsily contrived that the great patriot hero seems to be grinning through a horse collar. The value of the piece is very cleverly printed in large figures, also in gold, at the back, The gold is obviously introduced as evidence that precious metals have not altogether and for ever fled the country. Altogether, this new paper money is rather a proof of the ingenuity than of the good taste of the "universal Yankee nation." ft is so contrived as to a great extent to defy the forger's skill, bat as to its durability—why, it is to be hoped that even the Republic, " one and indivi sible," may have longer life than this new currency with which it will soon be inundated. SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. LIVERPOOL AUTUMN MEETING. THURSDAY. A bright sun and clear atmosphere improved the aspect of affairs this morning, and together with a well-filled card, gave promise of an enjoyable day's sport, which began at 12, or rather would have done so had certain jockeys not been refractory at the post, thereby delaying the start for the first race upwards of half an hour—a crying evil, which no punishment seems able to meet, When they d l / 4 1 start, tho course being 3 furlongs and 100 yards, Cutaway re peated her yesterday's performance cleverly. A new race, a Handicap for 3-yr-olds and upwards, afforded a sharp contest between the four placed, Spicebox winning by a length; the other three separated respectively by a head each. The Sefton Handicap, a mile and a quarter, was an agree able change after the half-mile scampers over the T.Y.C. Charming Woman was made the favourite, and led into the straight, where Despair and Alice came up, and a fine race between the three ensued, Alice getting her head first past the chair, and Despair and Charming Woman making a dead heat for second place. An objection was made by Lord Bateman, as well as by Mr. Hart, the owners of Despair and Charming Woman, against the winner on the ground of foul riding, but after hearing evidence the stewards awarded the stakes to Alice. The steeplechase, although not possessing the interest of those held here in the spring, yet brought eight sufficiently well-known horses to the post, including Reporter, the winner of 'he Worcestershire, Lincoln, Thomastown, and others. De Ruyter was made the favourite, but Reporter found many supporters on the strength of his Lincoln and Worcester victories. The race is fully described below, and it is sufficient to say here that Thomastown,De Ruyter,and Reporter were in the front rank throughout, that the first-named took a very commanding lead for some distance after jumping the second fence, but was subsequently passed by lie ltuyter, Reporter, and Gla diator, and that on entering the straight the race was left to the two former, Reporter jumping the last fence ahead of his opponent and winning a good race by two lengths, Thomastown, who came with a rush at the last, securing third place. There were no casualties Worth reporting ; the Gift alone falling at the first fence, and being out of the race from that point. . The Scurry Nursery Handicap of 50 sous, for two-year olds. Winners extra. Three furlongs and 100 yards. 26 subs. Mr Barber's Cutaway, Bst 21b (in. 101 b ex.) (E. Taylor) 1 Mr Hodgman's Virginia, 7st 61b Mr Peace's Alice Leigh, 6st 61b (J. Grimshaw) 3 Mr W. G. Craven's Practitioner, 7st 104 b (Loates) 4 The following also ran :—Lady Nichol, Usher, Hypatia, Prescription, Lady Mary, Jane Shore, and London. Betting - 5 to 1 each agst London, Usher, Cutaway, and Practitioner, 8 to 1 agat Hypatia, and 10 to 1 each agst Lady Nichol and Virginia. A tedious delay of upwards of half an hour took place at the post before Mr. Marshall could get them in order. When the flag was lowered they left the post to anything but a satisfactory start, Hypatia, rearing up at the moment, being left behind. Cutaway with Lady Nichol next the rails were the first to show in advance, followed in the centre of the course by Usher and Virginia, and on the upper ground by Practitioner and Alice Leigh, to the en closure, where Lady Nichol and Usher retired, and Vir ginia and Alice Leigh took the second and third places, but with,ut having a chance of reaching Cutaway, who won in a canter by three lengths, Virginia defeating Alice Leigh by a neck ; Practitioner finished next half a length in their rear, Lady Nichol was fifth, and Prescription next. The last three (who got badly off) were London, Jane Shore, and Lady Mary. A Sweepstakes of 3 sovs each, with 30 soya added, for two and three-year-olds; 2-yr-olds, 7st ; 3-yr-olds, Bst 81b ; with maiden allowances. The winner to - be sold for 50 sovs. T.Y.C. 7 subs. Mr Hart's Jenny Wren, 3 yrs, 7st fib Grimshaw) 1 Mr Kenyon's Lord Dundreary, 3 yrs, Bst 51b.... (Dixon 2 Mr J. Peace's Crisis, 3 yrs, 7st lllb ........ (Hoystead) 3 Mr R. Riddell's Deerstalker, 2 yrs, 6st 61b (J. Grimsbaw) 4 Betting—Even on Jenny Wren, and 2 to 1 agst Deer stalker. They ran throughout as placed by the judge, Jenny Wren with a slight lead, which she retained to the end, and won easily by a length and a half, Lord Dundreary beating Crisis by half a length for second ; a bad fourth. The winner was sold to Mr Luche, and goes to Prussia. A. Handicap Plate of 30 sous, for 3-yr-olds and upwards; winners extra. T.Y.C. 14 subs. Captain Christie's Spicebox, 6 yrs,7st 61b (J. Grimshaw) 1 Lord Uxbridge's Erythia, 3 yrs, 6st 51b (Loates) 2 Mr T. Hughes's Vigil, 4 yrs, Est 71b (car 6st 91b) (Morris) 3 Mr E. A. Watson's Wetsail, 4 yrs, 7st 61b (H. Covey) 4 Confidence, Cutler, Rupture, Who's Who, Reviver, Acorn, and Atlas also ran. _ _ _ Betting-9 to 4 agst Vigil, sto 2 agst Confidence, 7to 1 agst Spicebox, and 10 to 1 agst Wetsail. Confidence, in the centre, jumped away with a slight lead of Erythia and Vigil, and made play to the distance, when they were joined on the whip hand by Spicebox and Wet sail, the lot running nearly in a line to the stand, where Confidence dropped back and his place taken by Spicebox, who won a fine race by a length, a head only dividing the second and third, a similar distance between the third and fourth, Confidence finishing fifth, close up, Who's Who was sixth, Atlas, Cutler, and Rupture next, succeeded by Re viver, who was extremely fractious proceeding to the post, and threw his rider, but who was soon remounted. The Sefton Handicap of 100 Boys, added to a sweepstakes of 5 soya each, for 3-yr-olds and upwards. Winners extra. Mile and a quarter. 34 subs. Mr Temperley's Alice, 3 yrs, Est 41b (Loates) 1 Mr T. Hunt's Charming Woman, 4 yrs, Est 81b (Neale) t Lord Bateman's Despair, 4 yrr, 7st 121 b (in 81b extra) (IL Grimshaw) 1. Mr. Saxon's The Monk, 6 yrs, Bst 21b (\lidgley) 4 Colonel Towneley's Newchurcb, 3 yrs, Gst 41b.. (Carroll) 5 Mr Redhead's My Mary, 4 yrs, 6st 101b....(Clarkson) 6 Betting-5 to 4 agst Charming Woman, 3to 1 agst De • spair, 6 to 1 agst My Mary, 7 to 1 agst The Monk, and 100 to 8 agst Alice. The lead was taken shortly after starting by Charming Woman, who made play at a slow pace, followed by Alice, The Monk, Despair, Newchurch, and My Mary in the order we have given them, and which positions they re faatvothueri tained to the Canal-bridge, where Alice ren up to the favourite and in a few strides further she obtained a de cided advantage, The Monk third, with Despair at his cii3uacakrters. On entering the straiglr, Newchurch dropped I 'l_ joined My Mary in the rear. At the distance Mr Saxon's: Ghtwa.o ah leaders,ors horse m shortly pa Alicef after beat hpu n g a s r o e ra ft' retreat; upon ri the w come up on th e exciting race head ; a dead heat for At the scale an objection w a the " dead heaters" s teu am th e at t h im e ewabsrcoour:hpteluledDtoesrualilr back k tw a e n en d home, Alice the three finishing a close and second e d winning in the last stride by a a t: i T d h in e g l:l b o u n t k t h was s t a e w b a a r d ds fourth. ov e r.. for foul riding, to Alice by the riders of NOVERI3ER 13, 1863, :DA ruled the objection, and gave the race to the owner of Alice (by Lord of the Isles). The Liverpool Autumn Steeplechase (Handicap) of 100 sovs, added to a Sweepstakes of 5 sous each. Winners extra. About three miles. Mr F. Symond's Reporter, 4 yrs, 11st Mr Holman ns De Ruyter, 6 yrs, 105 t.... (G. Holman) 2 Mr M'Naghten's Thomastown, aged, list 41b _ _ (Brotherick) 3 Mr Bennett's Gladiator, aged, lOst 121 b....( W. White) 4 The following also ran :—Lincoln, Maid of Perth, The Gift, and South Australian. Betting-5 to 2 agst Do Ruyter, 3to 1 agst Reporter, 5 to 1 agst Lincoln, and 6 to 1 agst Thomastown. Immediately the flag was lowered, Gift, in company with Thomastown, De Ruyter, and Gladiator, appeared in front, with the others lying up; but as they came across the com mon De Ruyter took a clear lead, followed by Gift, Thomas town, and Lincoln, to the bushed fence opposite the Stand, which the leader refused, and in so doing caused those be hind him to follow suit, the first to get over being Thomas • town, who was quickly followed by Reporter, South Aus tralian, Gladiator, Maid of Perth, De Ruyter, and Lincoln, and then came Gift, some distance in the rear. In these positions they cleared the water jump without a mistake, with the exception of Gift, who dropped her hind quarters into it, and sent the spray glittering in the air. Rounding the stable turn, Thomastown considerably increased his lead, and as they entered the meadows he was upwards of half a dozen lengths in advance of Reporter, who was closely followed by De Ruyter, Gladiator, South Australian, and Lincoln, Gift beinging up the rear, in which way they crossed the ploughed land, the leader taking a line to the left, the others going somewhat to the right. Approaching Valentine Brook, De Ruyter ran past his horses and assumed the command, Thomastown going over second, Reporter third, with Gladiator and South Australian, side by side, exbeing out 0f it, was pulled up and t returned . G r i n f e tt d whohonde followed, or no alteration in tnese posi tions occu red until clearing the fe nce by th e cana l b ri d ge, ftw it e u d e , n r . which the leading horses cleared nearly together, Thomas town with a slight advantage, which he retained to the turn into the straight, where Lincoln was beaten, and in a few strides further the leader was joined by Reporter, De Ruyter and Gladiator, who reached the flight of hurdles at the dis tance nearly together. Reporter and De Ruyter, however, being the quickest, cleared them in advance, came on toge ther, the former with a slight lead, which he held to the end, and won a good race by two lengths ; a like distance between the Second and third. Thomastown, coming with a rush in the last few strides, obtained the third position, four lengths in advance of Gladiator. South Australian was filth, Lincoln and Maid of Perth did not pass the post. The Hunters' Stakes of 40 soya for bona fide hunters which have been regularly hunted at least six times, with any established pack of stag or fox-hounds in the United liingdom. Three-yr-olds, lOst 61b ; 4-yr-olds, 12st ; 5-yr olds, l2st 81b; 6-yr-olds and aged, 12st 121 b. A winner of any race 71b extra. Thorough-bred horses 141 b extra. Gentleman riders. Entrance 2 Boys. Mile and a half, starting opposite the stables. 13 subs. Mr Saxon's The Monk, 6 yrs, 13st (inc. 71b extra) (Mr. G. S. Thompson) 1 Mr Ashworth's Zeloo, 3 yrs, LOst (inc. 71b extra) (Mr:Wood) 2 Mr R. Thorpe's Emblem, 4 yrs (h b), 12st (Ur. Bamfora) 3 Betting-4 to lon The Monk. Zeloo, making use of his weight, made a strong running, followed by Emblem and the favourite, to the half distance, where the latter got up in the last few strides, and won a fine race by a head. Emblem, who ran out at the bottom turn, was beaten off a long way. - The Helter Skelter Stakes of 5 soya each, with 40 soya added. Two-yr-olds, 7st 71b; 3-yr-olds, 9st 31b; 4 -yr olds, lOst; 5-yr-olds and upwards, lOst 51b. Winner to be sold for £6O ; if entered to be sold for £4O allowed 51b ; £3O, 101 b; and £2O, 141 b. Winner to be sold by auction, and any surplus over the selling price to go to the fund. Six furlongs. 11 subs. Mr Yardley's Mrs. Nesbett, 2 yrs. Est 41b (£2O) (Carroll) 1 Mr T. Hughes' Pilot, 4 yrs, Bst 6lb (£2O) .. (D. Hughes) 2 Lord Westmoreland's Annington, 2 yrs, 6st 21b (£2O) (Morris) 3 Mr G. S. Thompson's Prairie Flower, 3 yrs, Bst (£2O) (Owner) 4 The following also ran :—Telscombe, Saltant, Atlas, and Contractor. Betting—Even on Mrs. Nesbitt, and 6 to 1 eack agst Pilot and Annington. Pilot with the favourite laid together to the half-dis tance, where the latter got her head in front, and won c overly by a neck; Annington was third, three lengths in their rear ; Prairie Flower was a bad fourth ; the next lot comprised Telscombe, Saltant, Contractor, and Atlas. The winner was bought in for 200 guineas. A Handicap Plate of 50 goys, for all ages. A winner after the publication of the weights (October 30, at 10 a.m ) 71b extra. Entrance 2 says. About six furlongs. 24 subs. Mr C. Peck, jun.'s Bernice, 5 yrs, 7st 121 b (E. Harrison) 1 Mr R. Rich's East Lancashire, 3 yrs, Est 111 b (Connor) 2 Mr H. Guater's Poland, 3 yrs, 7st. llb Mr Saxon's Amazoni an , 3 yrs, Est Miss Livingstone, Ziileika, and Mousetrap also ran. Betting-5 to 4 agst Bernice, 4to 1 agat Polaud, 6to 1 agst Amazonian, and 8 to 1 agst Miss Livingstone. Poland jumped away with a clear lead, and with Amazonian, East Lancashire, and the favourite lying up, made the running to the distance, where the favourite came out and won cleverly by a length—a neck between the second and third, a like distance separating the third and fourth. Mousetrap was fifth, the two last were Zuleika and Miss Livingstone, have unfastened the front door from the inside to let himself out; the lock might have been picked from the outside. Witness found some Brs.zil nuts under the broken window. Miss Gorman, recalled, said that she had thrown the Brazil nuts at the window to make the Grieves hear. She must have thus broken the window. The Coroner said that although the persons who were disturbed in robbing the house of the deceased had, perhaps, no settled intention of killing her, by their violence they had caused her death, and they were therefore guilty of wilful murder. The police had so little present prospect of bringing the murderers to justice, that he considered a verdict of wilful murder against some persons unknown might as well be returnei at once, without an adjournment. The jury returned a verdict of " Wilful murder against some person or persons unknown." The proceedings then terminated. ALLEGED MURDER. Last evening Mr. W. Carter, coroner for Surrey, held an inquiry at the Anchor and Hope Tavern, Southampton street, Camberwell, respecting the death of Mrs. Mary Wat son, otherwise Gorman, aged 59 years. Captain Webster Wedderburn said he was formerly captain in the 4th Royal Irish Dragoons. He had sold out, and was now living on his means. He resided at No. 13, Addington •square, Camberwell. He lived with the deceased. She was his housekeeper for 20 years. Her name was Mary Gorman and she was 56 years of age. On the evening of the 27th October he was out. When he returned home he found the house in the possession of the police. Ho had only been absent about an hour. The deceased was lying on the sofa insensible. Miss Watson was in the room, as were also two police-con stables. Miss Watson was the daughter of the witness, and the deceased. The deceased had a terrible contusion on the temple and a black eye. She had no such injuries before the witness went out. The witness and deceased lived as Mr. and Mrs. Watson. Miss Ellen Mary Gorman said that she was the daughter of last witness. On the evening of Tues day, the 27th of October, she returned home at about six or half -past 6 o'clock. She had been out all the afternoon. The witness, in about 10 minutes after her return home, went into the back garden, accompanied by her mother. They noticed a light in the back room upstairs of the adjoining house (.No. 11), occupied by Mr. Grieves. It was Mr. and Mrs. Grieves',bedroom that the light was in. The deceased imagined that Mr. Grieves and family had returned home, and she eaid, " It is strange they did not thank me for looking after their house while they were out." The Grieves had asked her to look after the house while they were absent at the funeral of a relative. The witness knocked at the back pailings dividing the two gardens, but no answer being returned the deceased said she would go to the front. She went away for that purpose, closing the door after her. Witness remained in the back. Some little time after a boy knocked at the door and told witness that her mother had fainted. Witness closed the door, as she did not believe what the boy said, her mother being so well a moment before. Shortly after a ring of the bell caused her to open the door. Her mother came in and said, "Stay with me, or they will murder me." She fell down in the passage. The witness saw that she was very much confused and almost insensible. She ran next door to Grieves' gate, and saw a policeman there; He and another policeman returned with her to deceased, and they lifted her on to the sofa. She was insensible and breathed very hard A doctor was sent for. The next morning witness saw that she had a black eye. The deceased said that when she knocked at Mr. Grieves's door she heard some one coming downstairs. She thought it was Miss Grieves, andshe said through the keyhole, "It's only me, don't mind coming down." The door was then opened, and two men knocked her down. They did it so instantaneously that she had no opportunity of seeing who they were. The deceased became again unconscious on the following Saturday, and remained insensible till her death on Sunday last. The front door of Mr. Grieves' house was a few yards down a passage leading from the front garden gate. The witness had no relatives in England. She had a half sister and a half brother in Paris. She saw the latter about six weeks ago. The family were not on god terms with him. Her mother did not at surgeon,a n y time sa y sa ia she t h a t k n h e w e w w a h s o c s a t r l l u e c d k t h o e r. the l‘ d l e r. ce a G Tay lor, morninz, after the occurrence. She complained of headache. Her right eye was very much blackened, apparently from a blow from a fist. Dangerous symptoms set in on the Ist or 2d of November. They had not been before immediately alarming, but they were always more or less dangerous. She died on Sunday morning. The post mortem examina tion, in witness's opinion, showed that the cause of death was the blow which had been inflicted on her. He had no doubt that her death arose from external violence. Miss Mary Grieves said that she lived with ber father and sister at 14, Addington•square. On the 27th of last month wit ness and her father left home at half-past 11 o'clock. Her sister was at the residence of her late brother, and they all went to his funeral. The witness locked up the house. The front gate was locked and the windows were fastened, but the shutters were not shut. The witness took the keys with her. She returned at 10 o'clock and found that the house had been entered. The front gate and front door was open. A pane of glass was broken in the back kitchen window, next to the drop catch. A person could have entered there, but those that examined the premises believed that no entry had been effected. The witness found that a variety of things had been' removed. Some rings, brooches, trinkets, and silver spoons, and some clothing had been taken. She saw none of those articles since. A hat and a jemmy were left behind by the persons. They were found in the garden by a policeman. By the Coroner—Witness told deceased that she was going from home that day, and requested her to listen at the back, to see that nothing happened. Witness didjnot think that there was any access from one garden to another. If a person had entered the house from the beck he could THE RECENT MURDERS. Very few facts of any importance besides those already known have come to light since yesterday. The story told by the cabman who carried the Hunts from Camberwell to Shoreditch, that Mrs. Hunt called at the chemist's shop on the way, has been investigated by the police. It turns out that Hunt stopped the cab at a chemist's near Worship street, and directed Mrs. Hunt to purchase an ordinary draught and a medicine-glass out of which to drink it. The circumstance is well remembered by the chemist in conse quence of Hunt sending back the medicine glass to be changed for one with a foot. The post mortem examination of Hunt's body was made yesterday by Dr. Puckle, assisted by Mr. Flower, the divisional surgeon of the P division. The appearances presented by the different organs are indi cative of poisoning by aconite. One of the symptoms of poi soning by this powerful drug are mental hallucinations, which may possibly account for many of the apparently pur poseless falsehoods told by Hunt before his death. Aconite, or rather the poisonous alkaloid contained in it, aconitine, is exceedingly difficult of detection by chemical means, its action being somewhat uncertain and obscure; the proof of its presence in Hunt's body will consequently rest upon the symptoms before death, and the physiological appearance of the different organs which were examined at the post mortem examination. A cheesemonger in the neighbourhood states that on Saturday afternoon Hunt's eldest girl called at his shop for a small quantity of butter, saying they did not re quire more as they were all going into the country. The poor child seemed delighted at the prospect of the trip, and bade good-bye to a little acquaintance who happened to be in the shop at the time. Nevertheless, from the appearance of Hunt's house, the journey seems to have been suddenly conceived and carried out. The inquest on Hunt's body will be held to-day at half-past 10, at the Rose and Thistle ta vern, Warner-road, Camberwell New-road. Dr. Lankester and the foreman of the jury that sat on the bodies of Mrs. Hunt and the children at St. Mary's Hospital, on Monday, will be present. (From the Lancet.) The suicide of the man who accompanied the unfortu nate persons found poisoned in a cab, under circumstances which have produced so profound an impression of horror on the public mind, hardly diminishes in any degree the necessity for carefully prosecuting the inquiry as to the actual cause of death in those cases. Indeed, by closing the only course from which direct information might probably have been obtained at fist hand, it gives additional im portance to the inferences drawn from the physical ap pearances and chemical reactions of the tissues removed for examination by the order of the coroner, Dr. Lankester. The stomach and other of the viscera have by his direction been placed in the skilled hands of Dr. Matthiessen, F.R.S., and Dr. John Randall, the professors of chemistry and medical jurisprudence at St. Mary's Hospital Medical School, and aro now undergoing analysis. Their evidence will be given at the adjourned inquest early next week. The inquiry is still incomplete, but enough has been done, we believe, to determine the nature of the poison, with certainty, in the case of the mother. The stomach, we learn, presented a general condition of pink congestion, with three spots of the characteristic " plum-coloured" extravasation, each about the.size of a sixpenny piece, near the lesser curvature, at its posterior aspect. After distil ling over the contents; which were only about an ounce and a• half of a syrupy fluid, of treacly colour, the affir mative tests for hydrocyanic acid, with silver sulphide of ammonium and the " iron test," were applied, and the characteristic reactions obtained. Hence it may be accepted as true that the woman was poisoned with prussic acid. With a view to ascertain whether it was realty ad ministered in beer, the presence of alcohol in the stomach will also be quantitatively determined. It has been sug gested that the mixing of prussic acid with beer might be a work of some difficulty, in-ismuch as the prussic acid, being of much less specific gravity, would float on the surface ; but this would not be the case with the mixed acid probably used under such circumstances. It was considered possible that a solution of cyanide of potassium had been employed, as this poison has similar reactions and properties; but Dr. Matthissen has applied a test with tho view of ascertaining that fact, and we believe the conclusion on that score at which he has arrived is ne gative. The analysis of the contents of the stomach of the children is yet incomplete. In addition to the parts of the mother and children, some pewter pots, a cork, and three cakes and figs found in the possession of the children will be examined. And, in the first instance, the physiological test will be employed of feeding some small animals with parts of these cakes and figs. Little, however, can be ex pected from the examination of pewters, as the man is said to have emptied the pot after handing the beer to those sit ting in the cab, and some of them, at least, were used in the course of trade during the evening. 'When all had been done there will still remain in connexion with this case se veral features of a remarkable kind and difficult to explain ; for if it be assumed that the three persons were poisoned by the hydrocyanic acid conveyed in beer, it is difficult to see why some one of the three did not take alarm at perceiving the sudden effect which must have immediately followed the drinking of the beer in the others. The further examination of the contents of the stomachs of the children will be awaited with interest. The entire absence of any alarm given to the driver, or any appearance of a struggle, is a fact of importance in juridical science. Railway Directors in the French Corps Legislatif. In the Corps Legislatif on Monday M. Emile O;iivier formally announced tne determination which the Opposition had come to not to raise the question of the incompatibility of railway directors to sit in the house. His short speech is ve r y impor tant. He said, apropos of the election of M. La croix St. Pierre for the Doubs I do not oppose this election, although M. Lacroix St. Pierre is a railway director, and it has been argued else where that such a position is incompatible with the func tions of a deputy. It is for the dignity of the house that an objection of this kind having been strongly insisted on out of doors should be distinctly answered here. Now, in my own name, and in that of several of my colleagues, I am here to express an opinion that this pretended incompatibi lity does not exist. The argument is that Art. 81 of the law of 1849 is not expressly repealed; and that Art. 2 of the decree of 1852—which only in a general way repeals all former laws inconsistent with itself—does not affect this law of 1849. It is further urged as a matter of public po licy, that there is something repugnant in a deputy being entrusted in that character with the duty of overlook ing himself in the character of a director of a company privileged by the State. I do not deny that there is something in this worthy the consideration of the Legis lator—if not with regard to railway directors, at least with regard to Government contractors. But we have not to make a new electoral law at this moment. And, dealing with the law as it stands, we think it clear that the law of 1849 is repealed by the decree of 1852. Art. 26 of that decree says that all electors 25 years old and upwards are eligible without any condition of domicile. This positive enactment evidently does away with all anterior incapaci ties. lam happy that the Opposition has had the oppor tunity at this cur first sitting to show by an act what is the attitude it means to assume in the Chamber. The attitude will never be either annoying or ♦iolent, but on the contrary, loyal and high-minded ; for we feel that one of the privi leges of right principles is to have no need to resort to equivocal and blameable means. This speech was marked by loud applause from all parts of the house. Naws has, however, transpired since that one of the bureaux of which MM. Marie and Picard are members does not take the same view as M. 011i vier of the decree of 1 . 852, as having repealed all incompatibilities not expressly mentioned in it. This bureau, by a majority of 12 against 8, is un derstood to have voted that the Marquis d'Avrin court, one of the Emperor's chamberlains, is, on account of his office, incapacitated from sitting in the Chamber. STAMFORD ST. SIMON AND ST. JUDE FAIR.— This great annual fair commenced on Monday, and was brought to a close on Tuesday, The cattle fair on Tuesday was pretty well supplied with mulch cows, store beasts, Bcc. There was a fair demand, and good prices wore obtained. Mulch cows, £l5 to £2O ; barren cows, £7 to £l4 per head. The show of sheep was rather abundant, and a satisfactory amount of business was done at full prices— ewes, 40s to 50s; shearlings, 508 to 635; lambs, 25s to 36s each. Horses were in limited supply, and good animals were very scarce. The best cart cart horses made £4O to £l5; colts, £2O to £2B each. [ADVERTISEMENT.]—HoIIoway's Ointment and Pills.--- Gout, Rheumatism, and Sciatica.—These maladies are always more or less connected with disorder or disease of the digestive organs—hence the facility with which they yield to Holloway's remedies. Temporary alleviation re sponds immediately to the proper application of this sooth ing Ointment to the pained or i n fl ame d part, while the Pills internally reduce the digestive functions to order, and arrest all inflammatory tendencies; Nervous invalids will derive ease and consolation from the influence of these medicaments, which are free from mercury and all noxious ingredients. Holloway's celebrated Ointment and Pills the present, at a trifling outlay, the me ans of preserving health or uprootin g diseases which have assailedthebody through accident, luxury, indolence, or other causes. SPIRIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURNALS TlmES.—The customs and the law dell the world are very suspicious of absolutely gratuitous proceed ings. They endeavour to protect the simple, and to protect themselves against those who are not so sim ple, who appear before the world as spontaneous movers and disinterested benefactors. There must be some wisdom in a universal prejudice founded on a common instinct and dictated by Nature. No doubt, law itself discovers that the property and rights within its cognizance are transmitted much better in the order of descent, affiuity, alliance, purchaae, and other secular causes, than by the more ca pricious and impulsive rule of private or public benevolence. So a man is aways supposed to have an interest, an object, or a duty capable of definition and measurement. When men enter a meeting, they mnst have a known ground of interest or duty to stand upon. When a man appears as a deliverer of his conscience, or a messenger from Heaven, he unites against himself all who are conscious of a more humble footing, and who are content to be so taken. Even law itself is at a disadvantage when it interposes without eztreme necessity to reconcile or reduce to order, those who think they have really something to quarrel about. Such is the weak and odious position which England is invited to take in a European Congress. She can only appear with high-sounding moralities addressed to persons who are not moralizing, but playing a game of prizes and forfeits. In such a company England will always be as the stranger who intruded himself among them, and must needs be their judge. If we could imagine a man taking his post in a country fair, and preaching the moral duties of horse dealing, that would be our case in a Congress, The man who is most respected in that sphere is he who gets the most, or pays the least, for a given animal. If England is ever to enter a European Congress without more than the present occasion, she must either be an idle listener or she must take the office of preacher and adviser. Her position will be at once difficult and invidious. She has certainly a large budget of suggestions, but she will have to wait for opportunity and willing ears. We give a great deal of our time to business, and very little to preaching and praying ; end the latter is about the proportion of talk that England is likely to have in a Congress—that is, so long as she confines herself to her original footing as a perfectly disinterested and unprejudiced adviser. Indeed, if she is perfectly consistent, and so con tinues, she will come under the spirit of her own law which forbids the presence of a" spiritual per son" in her leading House of Legislature. The general impulse of the crew will be to throw the trou blesome prophet to the mercy of the storm, which his presence will be supposed to have created. But the discomfort of an unmitigated unpopularity will remedy itself by a worse evil ; and, that she may not be abused and insulted by everybody, England will naturally seek the friendship of some, and, therefore, the enmity of others. Ihe bad position of a representative who represents nothing but the public opinion of his country, and some harsh con clusions upon the conduct of its neighbours, will itself be an element in the materials of intrigue, and will be used by those who can use everything to their purpose. Every time the British Representa tive receives a rebuff, he will be driven to seek that sympathy which even the severe and impracticable sometimes require. In the years 1814 and 1815 England brought to the Congress immense sacrifices already ma le, and professions that required no proof. She had done all that she could, and nothing remained hut to of f er the moral of the tale which for twenty years had been sounded in the ears of all nations. But when she had done everything even to refunding as much as if had been the con quered instead of the conqueror, she found herself a mere shadow of the past. Mortified and out of temper, she quarrelled as all the rest did, and was on the point of an alliance with France against Russia, when Napoleon threw away his own chance by escaping from Elba, and taking the game once more into his own hands. It is impossible to say what England may be driven to do when she finds her words received with contemptuous neglect. It is said to be a reason against war that it is like a ball, in which though you know your first partner you do not know your last ; but if a nation enters a Congress with no partner at all, it is still less able to foresee what may change its resolution. The worst of all solitudes is to be alone in a crowd, and even the assumption of superiority does not make it agree able. Yet what will the British Representative be able to do in his original character but sit en his throne of opinion and proclaim those maxims of justice and piety the sound of which, according to the poet, aggravates the torments of the damned ? His first appearance in the Congress will be simply as one of those statues which, speechless and blind, hold their idle scales over the heedless mob of a market or an exchange. We know how little power the works of the mightiest artists have to overawe the living conscience or palsy the rude hand. So the statue will have to grow warm, to flush, to throb, to move, to descend from its pedestal, and take a part in the work before it. That is what the British Representative will most certainly do, and neither people nor statesmen can say what he will not do, what partnership he will not make, whose game he will nor play, and whether when all is over the East or the West, the North or the South, Sovereigns or nations, will have most reason to thank him. But even if it were possible to preserve a proud supe riority to parties and interests, and to carry out the character of umpire, that is the very character already assumed by the Sovereign who opens the proposed Congress. Even that barren dignity is denied us, and, having nothing to gain in a sub stantial sense of the word, we find the honours of impartiality claimed by another. France is to be the nus who governs the winds; France, th e J ove who distributes with equal justice the warning nod and avenging brand. Napoleon 111. proclaims to Europe what we have been proclaiming in every mode possible in a country and with a Constitution such as ours. By a dexterous obtrusion of his per sonal history he points out that, of all Sovereigns he is the one best qualified to instruct, to conciliate, and do all else necessary to a European settlement. He alone has played all honourable parts, suffered exile, confinement, poverty and contempt ; endured the threats and malignity of all parties and powers ; and be alone is capable of entering into all feelings and wants, understanding all difficulties, and media ting . between the direst an t ip a thi es an d the fellest antagonisms. How can England, stable, well-to-do, and tranquil, always rich, and always the same, pretend to vie with a man raised by Pr o vid ence f or t h e very pur p o s e ? There is only one thing wanting to complete the proof of a mission which makes such demands on our homage, and even credulity. It is that this almost preternatural personage should have shown bimselt exempt from the foibles which mark the common herd of successful adventurers. But though France may be glad for the moment to overlook a sew excesses of power, some trifling annexations, and a policy of aggrandisement, neither we nor the rest of Europe can forget so complacently. What we see in France is the man of violence, not the founder of a temple of justice and peace. Yet the last is the character claimed in this address to the Sovereigns of the Old World. Not even is this to be ours. What, then, shall we have to do in this Congress, should it ever be more than an ideal con ception ? There is no place left to us. The honours of peace and war, of abounding mercy and prevail ing strength, of conception and execution, of a humble bearing and a magnificent hospitality, are all to attach by natural gravitation to France. We should not grudge her anything that would make her happy and contented, if only because we know not how soon her fortunes may be ours ; but we must still ask what part is left us by this ambitious performer, and in what guise we are to enter the scene. We might be content with even a second or a third rate part, but we are left with none at all. DAILY NEWS.—The discussion which has fol lowed the French Emperor's speech has established a few points of which in the present state of nego tiations it may be useful to take note :-1. The pro posal of a Congress is made without the assignment of any adequate reason. The grounds put forward to justify it are unreal and factitious. An imaginary danger is :pretended in order to give efftct to the recommendation of a cherished project, offered as a safeguard. l'he proposal of a Congress is not founded in the condition or the requirements of Europe, but in the personal character of the Em peror of the French. 2. The Congress, as pro posed to the Governments of Europe, is without definite aims and objects ; it is a court to which all the passions, ambitions, and rivalries of the world are to be invited, but which will have no power to control them. It is, therefore, well adapted to become a focus of intrigue, and a nursery of war. 3. The Congress of 1864 is called expressly to undo the work of that of 1815, and, to mark the h nta g o - nism more distinctly, as that was held at Vienna, this is to sit at Paris. In order to efface the acts of the Congress of Vienna, that of Paris must assume in the name of peace and " the legitimate aspira aspira- tions of peoples a power not inferior t o th at as sumed by the other in the name of victory. L ess r i g ht cannot be attributed to generous than to the conquering sword. The Con g ress Paris must therefore take to itself authority di s tribute territories and dominions, wi th or to r e_ f o with out the consent of their possessors, or it will not rulfil the idea of its author. Without the rernante merit of the map of Europe, fores hadowed in many a publication in Paris, the Congress will not be able even to compare in impo rtance . with that which it is ckEsimg pnetrdor of the h to ec lipse . It is most un lik e l y t h at the F 4rene has set his mind on a meeting of this character Without having provided, by arrangements with one or more other Powers, for the success of his undisclosed plans. 5. T he claim of a Congress to the exercise of powers ade quate to a " supreme arbitrament" in the questions which the ambition of sovereigns and states may' bring before it, is certain to be resisted by those who may be prejudicially affected by it; and thus anta gonisms will arise, allianc es an d counter-alliances will be formed, and the Congress will have divided Europe into hostile camps. In the present state of Europe these, and such as these, would be the ten dencies of a Congress like that proposed by the Emperor of the French. They constitute a danger greater far than any which, apart from them, can be said to threaten Europe. On the other side, and to allay alarm, we are told of the pacific ideas of Napoleon 111. Nobody has the slightest doubt that the Emperor of the French desires and intends peace—that is to say, if the world will let him have his own way, be will not make war for war's sake. Further than this his Majesty's antecedents do not warrant us in extending our confidence. The demon stration, at recurrent periods, of his predominance in Europe is for him a domestic necessity. It is for Frenchmen the compensation for that privation of liberty in which they so strangelf acquiesce. If the Emperor's ascendancy can be established peaceably, well ; but if not, still it must be established, and that in a manner patent to all the world. Before this overwhelming necessity all mere sentiment gives way. The fact does not con cern England nearly so much as other countries. We do not live from day to day on assurances of the influence we exercise in this or that foreign capital. But our external policy is founded on respect of the rights of others, and we know that there is a point at which pressure such as the French Em peror seeks to exert becomes unendurable, and leads to war. The British Government has a most serious duty to perform in deciding on the answer to be returned to the Emperor's overture; but its course, we imagine, cannot be very doubtful. The Empe ror's proposal, though in many points objectionable, should be examined with a view to ascertain whether it is capable of modifioation,so as to become the starting poiut of a work useful to Europe. The British Government cannot be expected to embark on a p ilicy of adventure. We ought to know, among other things, whether any limitation of the subject of discussion will be admitted, and what is its prin ciple. We ought to know, moreover, what will be held to be the position before the Congress of a power unwilling to make the sacrifices which may be required of it. When war has placed some of the parties to a Congress in a position to exact, and others in a position to yield, concessions, the recon structive work of diplomacy Las a basis in face; but this is not the situation of the Powers now con voked. No general necessity furnishes a guarantee of general consent' For himself, the Emperor Na poleon may easily promise magnanimity and mode ration, because it is well understood that, although France may gain much in this Congress, she is not to be asked to give auything. The difficulty will arise entirely out of the situation of other States. The English Government certainly cannot attribute to the Congress power to override the rights of sovereign States, and if the intention todo so exists, and the combinations are prepared beforehand, we shall do better to stay away. We cannot lend our sanction to acts of aggression, past, present, or to come, with whatever specious sentiments or impos ing show of authority it may be sought to cover them. The Emperor Napoleon will be asked, there fore, to present his scheme in a more definite and appreciable form, with guarantees for the respect due to international rights; and upon the nature of his answer the decision of the British Government will depend. COUNTRY MARKETS. ------ - MANCHESTER-THURSDAY. At our market this morning the attendance was good, and wheat, both English and foreign, was held with much firm ness, but mil ers showed very little disposition to buy. Flour was in very limited inquiry, at the prices of this day se'noight. Oats and oatmeal fully as dear, but with only a moderate demand. Beans about former values. Indian corn the turn in favour of buyers. BRISTOL—TgunsDAY. We had a good supply of English wheat to-day, and sales freely made, last Thursday's prices being supported. Foreign more in demand at is more money. Malting bar ley unchanged in value; grinding sorts gave way 6d to is per qr. Oats a slow sale. Beans and Indian corn wet° neglected. BIRMINGHAM-THURSDAY. Wheat was in fair supply to-day, and all dry samples found buyers at fully last week's rates. Barley as before. English wheat was sold at 44s to 488 for white, and 400 to 448 per 36 stone for red, Barley, new malting, 368 to 42s per qr ; grinding, 26s to 30s Oats, old, 24s to 300 per 30 stone ; Irish, 21s t 0,258. Beans, 40s to 44s per qr. Peas, 36s to 44s per 36 stone. EDINBURGH GRAIN—Nov. 11. A large supply of farmers' wheat to-day, which met a fair sale at fully the prices of lapt week. Barley in good sale, and prices unaltered. Beans were slow. Oats were sold well, at rather more money. Wheat on the top 6s Od up. average Os 9d down. Barley on the top 2s Od up...........average is Od up. Oats on the top Is Od down ....average Os 2d down. Beans on the top is 9d down ..average Os 7d up. Total Supply and Sales. Wheat ...1190 qrs Sold 462 qrs 8ar1ey........1756 qrs Sold 1530 qrs Oats Beans 5B qrs Sold 52 qrs Flour sells as follows :—Whites, 38s Od ; extras, 36s Od ; superfine, 34s Od; fine, 32s Od. DERBY SMITH: 'IELD—Nov. 10. _____ _ Beef __ 6d to 7d Veal 7d to nd Mutton .. Lamb Bd to —d Rough fat, 3s 9d per stone. Hides, 3d to 41d; calf skins, 5d to 6d. Foreign Mail Packet List. MAILS DUE. ------- iustralia and Mauritius, via Southampton Nov. 18. via Marseilles .. Nov. 12. Jrazil and Cape Verde, by British packet. . Dec. 4 Cape of Good Hope, Ascension, and St. Helena.. Nov. 29. China, Penang, and Singapore, via Southampton. Nov. 15. via Marseilles ...Nov. 12. Falkland Islands Gibraltar, via Southampton Nov. 11. India (Calcutta), and Ceylon, via Southampton Nov. 18. via Marseilles Nov. 12 India (Bombay), via Southampton Nov.ll via Marseilles Nov. 20. Portugal.... Dec. 4. Malta, Egypt, and Aden, via Southampton Nov. 11. via Marseilles Nov. 1 2 Newfoundland ..Nov. 11. Oporto and Vigo .. C. S. and British N. America, by Brit. packet.... Nov. 11 by U.S. packet.... by W.C. of Africa, Madeira, and Ten C e an riff a e d . i . an .. P . a . Bahamas Nov. 20. , via New York ............ Mexico...... MI parts of W es t I n di es, i nc l u di ng Chili, Peru, I N ov . 13. Californi a . an d B r i t i s h C o l um bi a. . a.k.e.t..NNOvv. 10.. [ADVERTISEMENT.)—Consumption, all nervous, bilious , liver, and stomach complaints, in every stage, are only ag gravatea and accelerated by drugs of every description, but perfectly curable by Du Barry's health restoring Revalenta Arabica Food, as proved by thousands of cases which Dad been considered hopeless. We quote a few.—Cure No. 62,914. Miss Lange, 18 years of age, cured after the medical men had abandoned all hopes of her recovery from the last stage of pulmonary consumption, with Darinl cough, expectoration , exhaustion, spitting of blood, perspirations, hollow cheeks, emaciated to a skeleton. She is now, thank God, a perfectly healthy, blooming, fleshy girl.—N. Lange, Commissaire do Police. Cure, No. 46,270. Mr. James Roberts, of Fernley Surrey, of shirty years' diseased lungs, spitting of blood, liver derangement. and partial deafness.—Cure, No. 47,121. Miss Elizabeth Jacobs, of extreme nervousness, indigestion, gatherings, low spirits, and nervous fancies.--Cure, No. 54,816. the Rev. James 'l'. Campbell, Fakenham, Norfolk, of indigestion and torpidity of the liver, which had resisted all medical treatment. In tins, 11b, 28 9d; 21b, 48 6d; 51b, lls; 121 b, 225; 241 b, 40s. Barry du Barry and Cu., No. 77, Regent-street, London ; also Fortnum and Mason; and all grocers and chemists in every town of the United Kingdom. Births. BA.RNARD.—On the 11th inst., at Bowater House, Haar ton-court, the wife of Lieut.-Colonel Barnard, Gams' dier Guards, of a son. HERVEY.—On the Bth inst., at the British Legation, Dre 6. den, Lady Augustus Hervey, of a son. WILDY.— On the 11th inst., at 11, Queen's -terrace, R'e gent's-park, Mrs. Augustus Wildy, of a daughter. Marriages. GILISOUIt—FOSSITT.—On the 10th inst., at Parsontosv o t Ireland, George Gilmour, Esq., 21st Fusiliers, to .Re becca, fourth d aug ht er of Jon Fossitt, Esq., of j.m" Island, King's County. PA-NTLIN—FRA.NKLIN.—On the 10th inst., at St.George 'li t Hanover-squ are , Mr. Edward Pantlin of Rottingdef!DP bussex, to An n, youngest daughter of ' Mr. F. Franiclinf of Waltham Abbey, Essex. Deaths. ----- ARDESOIP.—O n the 9th inst., at 13, Southwick-cresce nts Hyde -park, Miss Ardesoif, aged 85. B ARNEWALL.—On the 11th inst., at Brighton, Fla i l Barnewall, Eiq., formerly of Copthall Court, aged 7.• R.I.P. DENNIS.—On the 11th inst., at King's Langley, ga te, the R e v. H enry D enn i s , age d 64 . GREENWOOD.—On the filth inst., at 2, M a nor Cotttlg e6 Upper Holloway, Michael Gre en w oo d, E sq ., a ged 87. MANSON.—On the 9th inst., Charles R oss Manson, 8 844 late of 24, James-street, Bucki ng h am - ga t e . RIDDLE.—On the 9th inst., at Brighton, Gabriel Riddle, Esq , aged 78. STEVENS.—On the 9th inst., at Brighton, Wm. Stever* Esq., of 78, Bishopegate-street w ithi n , a ged 36. Welds WELD.—On the Bth inst., at Marseill es , Gordon S. Esq., aged 34. R.I.P. c London : Primed and Published by WILLIANIANDREW`: "s o , 11.! of No. 112, Strand, Printer, at TILE SUN Office Strand, in the Precinct of the Savoy. ilitlEilCSeX.—Friday,November 13, 1803. in the CettatY " I