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the deliberations of the Government, without doing the least good. lf, however, the Hon. Gentleman should not adopt his suggestion by withdrawing his motion, he (Lord Althorp) must declare that he could not feel justified in voting against it. But at the same time he trusted the Hon. Gentleman would comply with his request, as he must see that no advantage whatever would be obtained by a merely !amen charter. Mr. W. WYNN had no objection that a Charter should be granted to this establishment; but still the House would do well, before they concurred in the motion, to consider in whom the Constitution vested the power of granting it. By the Constitution, this power belonged to the King, and the question therefore was, would they not he interfering with the prerogative of the Crown if they agreed to the present proposition ?—(Cries of " No, no.") He contended that not only would such an address as the Hon. Gentleman called for be an interference with the prerogative of the King, but that the motion was in itself premature, as tile matter was under the consideration of the Government. He said this without meaning any hos tility to the institution, for in fact he had given some proofs of the wish which he entertained for its SllCcess. (Hear, hear.) But he must at the same time join in the request made by the Noble Lord, merely because be tie. tight the motion would operate as an improper interference with the prerogative of the Crown. Sir R. INGLIS would not have risen on this occasion if the Noble Lord had placed the matter in its right light, namely, as his Right Hon. Friend had stated, that the motion would be an interference with the prerogative of the Crown. That was the question which in limine the Noble Lord ought to have raised. The object of the ad dress proposed to be presented to the King was th ;t his Majesty would be pleased to grant a charter to a body which had been associated together voluntarily, and b,ire all the characteristics of a joint-stock company.—(Cries _of " No, no.") He contended that the shares of the in stitution were as marketable as the shares of any other company that had been formed in the year 1825. In fact it had been one of the speculations which were set on foot during that year.—( Cries of "No, no.") If he was wrong in this he was at all events right in saying this establishment was formed in 1825.—(Hear, hear.) The House would recollect that in the May of that year the Hon. and Learned Member for Winchilsea, who had since been elevated to the Woolsack, brought in a Bill for the purpose of giving a charter to this institution. It was discovered, however, that this was a private and not a public measure, and the Hon. and Learned Gentleman consequently withdrew his Bill. But, although he had been in that House from June, 1825, to November, 1830, four years and a half afterwards, he bad never deemed it necessary to bring the subject for ward, although it was in his power to have done so if he thought fit. When that Bill was introduced the Hon. and Learned Gentleman expressly stated that none of the privi'eges which he intended to confer on this institution would enable it to confer degrees, or give fellowships or scholarships. He never intended that it should enjoy any privilege which could at all interfere with the two Uni versities; and he (Sir R. Inglis) was of opinion that it would be most improper to confer such privileges upon any joint-stock companies, for in no other light could he regard this establishment. It was clear that the Govern ment could have no knowledge of the doctrines that were to be taught in the London University ; and, as to the granting of honorary rewards for scientific purposes, it was as much in the power of that institution to do so now as if a charter were granted to it, as it was perfectly indifferent whether the reward was a wreath of parsley or of laurel. The object of the present motion, how ever, seemed to be to acquire political privileges, and that should never have his sanction. Knowledge without power was only a more extended means of doing mischief. It had been so for 6,000 years, and, as re ligious instruction was to form no part of the system of education in this institution, he was convinced that incor porating it would be attended with more evil than good. He concurred in the request that the Han. Gentleman mould withdraw his motion, but on other grounds than those stated by the Noble Lord. Mr. SLANEY also joined in the request that his Hon. Friend would withdraw his motion, and he did so not in any spirit of hostility towards the London University, but from a desire that the whole matter should be left in the hands of the Government. A large portion of the popu lation was wholly uneducated for all useful purposes. It had been said that great power bad been placed in the bands of the lower classes, and he did not regret it ; but it was necessary to make that power useful and not dan gerous, that the people should be educated. He was one who thought that the education of the people should he a combined religious education—(Hear)—and that no other was entitled to support; but not such a system of exclusion as would shut out one-third of the population. .Mr. STRUTT was much disappointed by finding this not made a Government question. The nation was much disappointed that the taxes on knowledge were not re pealed. The question was, not what was expedient at the time when Lord Brougham disclaimed a desire, on the part of the University, to grant degrees, but what was ex pedient at the present moment? The Hon. Baronet had called the London Uuiversity a joint-stock company. It edght be so, hut it sought no profit; its only object was to diffuse the blessings of education amongst all classes. He did not wish to depreciate the two Universities, to one of which be owed much, but he thought it vet y objection able that these honours should be confined only to those of the Established Church. Mr. ABERCROMBY had advocated the new esta blishment, because be thought it would he the means of extending the advantages of a University education to classes of persons now excluded from them ; and .ilso be cause the method was not a new experiment, but had been already practised m the portion of that empire to which he (Mr. Abereromby) belonged with distinguished success. It had been provided that the University should not have the power of granting any degree in theology, and lie was of opinion that that provision was amply sufficient to avert any of those dangers to the Established Church whieh ex cited the alarm of some Hon. Members. He thought th tt a degree ought to be made a distinction, whose importance should be estimated by the character of the University by which it was conferred. But as his Majesty's Ministers had expressed themselves favourable to conferring the powers required by the London University, he thought, upon the whole, that it would be better to withdraw the motion at present. Mr. ESTCOURT had no objection to granting Char ters to the new Universities ; but the great point was, what was to be the contents of these Charters? Mr. TOOKE said, his plain course was to divide the House. If the address were voted, it would then be left to his Majesty's discretion to determine the nature of the Cbarterli. Mr. HUME said, that having the pledge of the Chan cellor of the Exchequer to bring forward a meaFure for effecting the objects of the motion, he would strongly re commend is withdrawal. Mr. TOOKE would very reluctantly, and with a very bad grace, withdraw his motion. LIVERPOOL ELECTION. Mr. MARK PHILLIPS rose to propose the motion of which he had given notice :—" That the Committe ap pointed to inquire into the matters complained of in the petition of the electors and inhabitants of Liverpool, pre sented to the House on the 21st of Februiry, 1833, which Committee was instructed to report in the first place the result of their inquiries into bribery and corruption at the last election, having pre , eoted such first report, be in structed to pursue their inquiries into the whole of the matters complained of in the said petition, and repro t the result of such inquiries to the House from time to time." He had no private motive in bringing forward this motion. In a population of two hundred thousand in Liverpool, it appeared that there were eleven thousand electors, of whom a large portion depended upon the ancient franchise. His great anxiety was to eradicate these practices entirely front Liverpool, and to prevent them from spreading to other boroughs. Mr. LANGDALE contended that it had never been understood that the inquiries of the Committee were to be directed to the expediency of carrying the principles of which the Reform Bill was founded into further effect in the borough of Liverpool. He should oppose the motion. Mr. WARBURTON admitted that the report of the Committee which had already sat, stated that it did not appear that bribery and corruption had been ext en ,i ve l y and systematically practised by the candidates at the recent election for Liverpool. But it was distinctly to be seen by the evidence, that the electors themselves were as dis posed to bribery and corruption as ever. Ile repeated, that unless the report of the Committee had established the purity of the electors of the borough of Liverprad, the Committee ought to be re-appointed. The Hun. 111etnber then read the evidence of Mr. Theal, to prove that a Mr. Ackers and Mr. T. Horsfall, the son of the AL)or of Liverpool, offered half a day's wages to various bodies of the old voters, to induce them to come up to the p-11, and the testimony of some other p erson t o prove that ribb ons were given away with sovereigns wrapped up in them. Another part of the case referred to the conduct ~ f the canvassers, who, it was proved, went up to the polling booths with voters, not a small proportion of who', were in a state of intoxication. Others, too, on the briber ) oath being tendered, declined to take it, for though their rtneciencel would allow them to take bribes, they were not strong enough to take that, and refused to do so. The canvassers, however, oh Lord Sandon and Sir H. Douglas, it was proved, bad again brought these recusants op, urging them by every argument to swear they had not been bribed, or been promised a bribe. One, it was i" evidence, said "No, he'd be cursed if he'd take that oath," and made off; and another said, " No, I'll not take that oath, but I will swear by - I have been bribed ;" and a third said " he would swear he had not been bribed, but he could not swear be had not been promised a bribe." The Hon. Member, after going through some other parts of the evidence, said that he had shown sufficient ground for continuing this inquiry, which had been so ably com menced. An How. MEMBER should regret much if the useful labours of this Committee should be discontinued. Another How. MEMBER thought that after the exten sion of the franchise at Liverpool under the Reform Bill, no further proceedings were to be taken with respect to that borough. He could not see the use of continuing the Committee, without the House meant to follow np its report with some mark of reprobation. Mr. HOULDSWORTH regretted the absence of the Hon. Member for Birmingham, for he might learn from the discussion of this evidence, that in the event of a paper circulation, the price of votes, like that of other articles, would rise considerably.—(A laugh.) He thought that if Liverpool was punished, something ought to be done with other places equally corrupt. Mr. LLOYD must declare that he never looked at the Reform Bill as an amnesty for the past corruptions of Liverpool. The question before the House was one of principle. In his opinion, a case was made out requiring the House to probe the matter to the utmost ; and he should, therefore, vote for continuing the Committee. Mr. BANNERMAN supported the motion for continu. ing the Committee. Mr.NICHOLL contended that no case of general bribery had been established at Liverpool —consequently, that the cas« did not come within the Bill of the Noble Paymaster of the Forces. He should, therefore, vote against the Committee. Mr. AGLIONBY thought that further inquiry ought to take place, and unless some additional proceedings were instituted, those that had hitherto taken place must be considered a mere farce. Mr. BANNERMAN explained. Mr. NICHOLL also said a few words in explanation, which were not heard. Mr. GASKELL was of opinion that further investi gation was not necessary. Mr. GLADSTONE admitted the corruption and dis grace of the election of 1530, but contended that no such circumstances of guilt had attended the last election. In 1830, the corruption had partly arisen from accident. In the name, then, of justice and common sense, he besought them not to sacrifice the rights of the poor freemen of Liverpool to the establishment of a general principle—a principle derived from particular cases, and therefore in much danger of being fallacious. Mr. WASON said the case of those who contended for inquiry had been fully made out by the evidence. Mr. HODSON would vote against the inquiry. Mr. C. W. WYNN might, perhaps, have agreed to punish the delinquency while that delinquency was fresh ; but since the Reform Act, the new constituency had been so mixed up with the old, that he thought, in any attempt to punish the really guilty, the innocent might suffer. It did not appear to him, that, with respect to Liverpool, there had been established any amount of corruption beyond that which is generally inseparable from large communities. Mr. O'CONNELL appealed to the House, in the name of honour and justice, to allow a further inquiry. Lord SANDON said the real question was, whether the allegations of bribery had been substantiated? He denied that they had, and he defied any one to prove it. And what was the extent of this "gross system of bribery," even if proved ? Why it appeared that there was a direct sum of 31. 7s. 6d. alleged, with several other items amounting to the enormous sum of 341. Here was a sum to overbear a constituency of between 4,000 and 5,000.—(A laugh.) Oh, there was one other sum too alleged to have been ex pended in treating this constituency -61. 12s.—(A laugh. ) The other allegation was, that the electors of Liverpool were grievously given to receive bribes ! Was it upon such grounds as these, mere allegations, that the House were to disfranchise such a constituency as that of Liverpool ? (Hear.) There had undoubtedly been some bribery com mitted two or three elections ago, when there was a tre mendous contest, but he knew to a certainty that nothing of the sort was known at Liverpool now, or would be ever again perpetrated. Colonel WILLIAMS had been well acquainted with Liverpool for the last 35 years, and had never known more than one Magistrate elected by anything like pure means. The question at present was only inquiry; but he hoped that inquiry would lead to disfranchisement. He was an elector himself—(A laugh)—but rather than not have such a nest of bribery and corruption broken up, he would share the fate of disfranchisement himself. Sir H. WILLOUGHBY opposed the inquiry. The House then divided, when there appeared-- For the motion lO6 Against it B4 Majority On our admission into the gallery, we found Lord SANDON moving as an instruction to the Com mittee, that inquiry should be made relative to the two last elections, commencing with that of 1831, whether general corruption and brhtery did exist at those elections ; and also for the names of the persons guilty of corruption, and the amount of the sums given to each of them. Mr. J. NICHOLL seconded the motion. The question was put from the Chair. Mr. R. WASON did not see what advantages could result from the motion, unless it was intended to stifle inquiry. The writ of 1831 was sent down by that House, in order that the Noble Lord might have a seat to defend the electors and the interests of the b,,rough. Mr. WARBURTON said that an inquiry should be instituted as to the corruption of the sources of justice, and that it was therefore of much more consequence to inquire how the Magistrates were elected, and how Mern• hers were elected. He thought the instructions should be left to the discretion of the Committee, and said that no restrictions should be placed on their inquiry. Mr. P. HOWARD was of opinion, that as the House would have to decide judicially upon the merits of the case, it would advance the ends of justice to regulate the course the Committee should pursue, and not to admit all kind of hearsay evidence. Sir H. WILLOUGHBY knew, from experience, that a Select Committee was a bad mode of inquiring into muni cipal corruptions. Lord SANDON should withdraw his motion, with the understanding of bringing it forward at a future period. Mr. HUNlE—After the question had been now so fully discussed, the Noble Lord ought not to be allowed to do so. If there were any amendments to be proposed, that was the time for putting them. Lord SANDON still persisted in his wish to withdraw his motion. Mr. GORDON said, that there still remained much important business to transact, and that the House should not permit the Noble Lord to withdraw his motion. Mr. M. PHILLIPS (we believe)considered it the duty of the Noble Lord to promote inquiry in the present else, instead of throwing obstacles in its way. Col. WOOD thought, that the House should treat the Noble Lord with common courtesy. If it did not, he should move the adjournment of the House. Mr. O'CONNELL begged to rewind Hon. Members that they were now at the 4th, or rather at the sth ofJuly, and that the public business ought net to he delayed by this special pleading for the borough of Liverpool. The question that the House do now adjourn having been put, Mr. ELLIS should oppose the withdrawal of the mo tion ; but if the Howie was called upo❑ to adjourn, that was an evil he should be obliged to submit to. Lord SANDON said the motion for adjournment was only made in consequence of the lack of courtesy of Hon. Gentlemen. His Gallant Friend would, no doubt, can ent to withdraw his motion for adjournment, if he (Lord Sandon) were allowed to withdraw his own motion.— (No, no.) CARTER said that the Noble Lord should rem)). lent that, when a motion was allowed to be withdrawn, it was upon an understanding that it was not to be brought forward again. _ _ _ Colonel WOOD, if allowed, should move the o adi urn. meat of the debate instead of that of the House. adjourn. The gallery W 34 then cleared for a division upon the adjournment of the House, hut none took place. On our admission into the gallery, we found Colonel WILLIAMS moving for copies of the religious tests re quired .to be taken by persons admitted into or taking degrees at the Universities of Oxford and Camb: idge, which, after some discussion, was agreed to. HAILS. Arrived. Due. Arrived. Due. 0 America 1 0 Hamburg 0 0 Brazil 0 Buenos Ayres 0 0 Jamaica 0 0 Carthagena 0 0 Leeward Islands ... 0 I Dublin 0 0 Lisbon 0 0 Flanders 0 0 Malta 0 France 0 0 Sweden 0 Guernsey &Jersey.. 0 i 1 Waterford 0 CORPORATION REFORM. Mr. VERNON SMITH moved for an address for the appointment of a Commission to inquire into the state of the Municipal Corporations in England, Wales, and Ire land; and that the Commission should inquire into the defects, so as to enable the House to legislate, e illy in next session. At this late hour he would ❑ot detain the House by any observations. This was the plan recommend e d by the Report of the Couunitt:e. The motion was agreed to without a division. BANK CHARTER. The Report of the Committee on the Bank Charter was brought up and received. The Resolutions were read a HIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE TO-MORROW. ing ...41 minutes after 4. 1 Evening...s9 minutes after 4 THE COURT JOURNAL and GA ZETTE of the FASHIONABLE WORLD of SATURDAY, July 6, will contain, among other Ori ginal Papers--Men and Women of Fashion; No. s—Lady Laura Delisle--Modern Weddings, with Hiuts for Ba chelors—Water Parties—The Season—Original Anecdotes of Madame De Stael—The Theatres of the South of Germany, &c.—The Court Journal, containing all the Political and Fashionah!e News of the Week, is supplied (postage free) by all Newsmen. Office, 19, Catherine-street, Strand. second time and agreed to, and a Bill ordered to be brought in purniant thereto. The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at a quarter p ist two o'clock. PRICE 4 OF STOCKS 'ruts DAY AT ONF O ' CLOCK. 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The report of the Committee on the Bank Charter Acts having been last night presented to the House, we are enabled this day to give a correct copy of the resolutions on which the Bills for the removal of the Charter of the Cor, poration are to be founded. They now stand as follows : 1. That it is expedient to continue for a limited period to the Bank of England, certain of the privileges now vested by law in that Corporation, subject to such conditions as may be provided by any Act to be passed for the purpose. 2. That so long as the Bank of England shall continue to discharge in the legal coin of the realm all such of its debts and liabilities as shall be demanded at the Bank of England, or at any of the Branch Banks thereof, it is expedient that the promissory notes of the said Corporation be made a legal tender for all sums above 5/. 3. That provision be made by law during the present session of Parliament, for the repayment to the Bank of England of one fourth.part of the amount of the debt now due by the public to that Corporation. 4. That the rate of allowance and remuneration now se cured by law to the Bank of England for the management of the public debt, and services rendered to the public, be conti nued to that corporation for the limited period to be fixed as aforesaid, subject to an annual reduction of 120,0001. 5. That the laws restricting the interest of money to 51. per cent. shall be repealed, so far as they relate to bills of exchange not having more than three months to run before they be come due. 6. That all banks issuing promissory notes payable on demand, shall enter into a composition in lieu of stamp duty, at the rate of seven shillings for every 1001. on the notes which such bank shall have in circulation. The first is what any one may agree to, for the Bank Charter might be renewed, subject to conditions which every one would acknowledge as rendering it an institution as useful to the country as it is now pernicious and mischievous. The second resolution has undergone two alte rations ; one of no consequence whatever, and the other of such consequence, that if Lord ALTHORP do not take care to nullify it by the provisions of his Bill, the whole scheme will be virtually defeated. The first alteration was made at the suggestion of Mr. BARING. Originally Bank of England notes were made a legal tender, provided the Bank should he bound by law to pay its debts and liabilities in gold. Mr. BARING observed that it was now bound by law so to do, and appeared to apprehend that the expressions used might cast a doubt upon the subject, or hold out the expectation of its not being bound by law to pay its liabilities in the legal coin of the realm. The wording now used was in consequence adopted. The only prac tical effect of the change, as far as we can ob serve, is to make it barely possible for a combi nation of individuals to annul the legal tender privilege by creating a run upon the Bank or one of its branches (as long as the branches continue to exist), which shall make it stop payment. This is a contingency barely within the range of possibility ; but as to the change making the country forget that the Bank has been relieved, and may therefore again be re lieved, from the burden of paying its debts in coin, if that be Mr. BARING'S object, h e ma y assure himself that it is hopeless. The amend ment is just such a one as we should expect the calibre of his mind to produce. He talks sixty-four pounders, and invariably ends by firing a pop-gun. The other alteration in th e resolution is the celebrated one made by Lord ALTHORP, making Bank-notes " above 51." only a legal tender. As we observed yesterday, it will entirely depend upon the provisions of the Bill, whether this alteration will amount to nothing or to every thing ; whether it will be no restriction at all upon a man's wishes, or whether it will enable him, with the slightest possible trouble, to defeat the Bill. The third, fourth, fifth, and sixth resolutions are the same as were originally introduced. The object attained by the third was of little value, except as affording a handle for making a good bargain with the Bank; but as Lord ALTHORP has not availed himself of the argument it afforded, we really do not see of what service it will be to us. As to taking advantage of the present low interest of money to reduce the amount of debt due to the Bank, the operation must, in the first instance, be attended with loss, the rate of interest at which the money would have to be borrowed being higher than that now paid to the Bank. Besides this argument against the resolution, it may further he urged that the progress of time is at least as likely to reduce as to raise the interest of money. The bargain resolution has been received with such universal obloquy, that farther railing at it would appear almost as gratuitous as blackening the Devil. We will observe, however, that there are two things connected with this resolu tion, which we especially admire. The first is, the success with which the Bank Directors have worked this miserable tub in gulling the whale. By sticking out for the half of what they at present receive for the management of the public debt, the Directors have almost entirely di verted attention from the main object they have in view, viz., getting possession of the whole cir culation of the country. What will a few tho usands per annum more or less signify if they can add twenty or thirty millions per annum to their pre sent circulation ? Let them knock all rival banks of issue on the head, and the paying, in stead of receiving, 100,0001. odd from the Go vernment, becomes almost a matter of indiffe rence. We trust that the concessions made by Lord ALTHORP will prevent the fulfilment of the anticipations of the Directors, and that some degree of competition will be preserved to the country. But however the monopoly of the Bank may be thus limited, the renewal of its old privileges alone entitled the public to a better bargain. In short, any privileges being granted which yielded the Bank proprietors a profit at the expense of the public, created a right in the public to share in such profit. The second object of our admiration connected with the bargain resolution is the hardihood with which Members voted for it in spite of the plainest proof of its improvidence. Do they sup pose that a day of reckoning will not come ? The resolution for the relaxation of the usury laws is good as far as it goes, but we should Prefer seeing Mr. POULETT THOMSON renew his Bill for the entire abolition of that legacy of barbarian ignorance. The Tory Government showed itself sufficiently enlightened to encou rage him in the attempt he made to acomplish the object three years ago. We well recollect the opposition he received from certain parties in the House, who wisely thought that throw ing impediments in the way of money being lent at an interest proportionate to the goodness of the security, enabled them to obtain it for less than it was naturally worth ; but we should think that the commercial knowledge that has since been infused into the Legislature, would prevent the recurrence of such opposition, and facilitate the progress of Mr. THomsoN, or any one else who may feel inclined to take up this subject. With regard to the last resolution, we see nothing in it to which objection can be offered on the part of the public. We have now passingly examined the whole of the foundation on which Lord ALTHoRP proposes to build the superstructure of the new Bank Charter, and we still hold the opinion we have expressed from the beginning, that as far as it will be operative at all, it will be unjust ; but that, like all measures intended to coun teract the natural operations of commercial credit, it will inevitably defeat its avowed purpose. We alluded, a few days ago, to the forcible carrying away of several hundred male children from Warsaw by the Russians, for the purpose of flaying them brought up in the Russian mi litary schools and colonies, and eventually in corporated in the army; so that, in the course of a few years, those Polish youths, who, if left in their native country, would have im bibed the patriotism of the noble-minded but unsuccessful men who lately raised the stan dard of revolt, may become the instruments of Polish misery and degradation. It appears from very recent accounts, which have reached us, that Prince PASKEWITSCH having repre sented to the EmPEnott that the forcible removal of the Polish children had been at tended with an excitement which threatened a new revolt, the enlightened Autocrat has hit upon an expedient which exceeds all his former refinements upon atrocity. The Russian agents in Warsaw have been instructed to send ambulatory vendors of spirituous liquors and sweetmeats into the streets to dispose of their stores gratuitously to children, who, under the influence of' liquor, are followed by the agents, and easily induced to put on little Russian uni forms, and to parade the streets like drunken recruits in this country, inviting others to join them. If we had not received this fact from a source of the highest respectability, we should not have given credit to it, although experience has shown that, where freedom is concerned, the Russian Government is capable of any atrocity. We are pleased to find from Lord AL THORP'S admission last night, that plans are in progress for granting a charter to the London University. We see no reason why this should not hare been granted long ago ; still less why the bigoted, interested representations of Cam bridge or Oxford, should have had the slightest influence in withholding it. Because these two learned bodies are endowed with extraordinary privileges, shall the London University have none ? Because they are " virtuous," shall there be "no cakes and ale" for others? Luckily tLe day is gone by for monopolies, whether of commerce or intellect. Henceforth there must be a free trade in education, as in every thing else. it appears that Lord PALMERSTON and Mr STANLEY voted in the minority last night against the motion of Mr. PHILLIPS for an inquiry into the circumstances connected with the Liverpool petition of the 21st of February, and that Mr. EDWARD ELLICE, the Secretary at War, voted in the majority. The popularity of Mr.STANLEY and Lord PALMERSTON will not, we imagine, be increased by the knowledge of the fact that they staid until so late an hour in the House of Com mons, for the purpose of voting against inquiry into the a ll e ged ►malpractices of a portion of the Liver pool electors ; but the public will be glad to find that the brother-in-law of the Prime Minister— himself one of the principal Members of the Government—not only voted for but also spoke in favour of such inquiry. We are informed by a gentleman who was present, that shortly after the division, when Mr. ELLICE resisted the motion of Lord SANDON, the evident object of which was to stifle inquiry, some observation was made by Sir HENRY HARDINGE on the want of taste dis played by Mr. ELLICE in persisting in the course which he had adopted when he saw that the only two Cabinet Ministers then in the House were against him. Mr. ELLICE is stated to have replied that when the performance of a public duty was required, he never allowed himself to be governed by any other consideration than a sense of that duty, and that, as a Member of the House of Commons, he would not relinquish his right of independence. A private letter from Holland states, that previous to the arrival there of his Ambassador, DEDEL, from London, the KING was quite against arranging his affairs with the Bel gians ; but when he found the favourable recep tion tl - ,at DEDEL met with from the people, he immediately changed his determination, and sends t 9 this country an extraordinary agent, the Minister of War, his most confidential servant. We have seen a private letter from Lisbon stating that if the expedition had on board from 5,000 to 6,000 men they could have taken it with the greatest ease. We learn from the German papers that it is intended to transfer the sittings of the Hun garian Diet from Presburg to Pesch. A line of telegraphs is being established between Vienna and the latter city, which, it is said, will be ex tended to the borders of Turkey. Letters from Stutgard, dated the 26th June, state that about seventy persons have been arrested in different parts of the kingdom, on account of a supposed plot in favour of liberalism in Wirtemberg. The friends of Reform will rejoice to see that the attempt made last night by those who long for the return of the good old times of boroughmongering and corruption, when each man, with a purse—long enough, was sure of a seat in Parliament ; when every poor man in a borough town was sure of having a fowl in his pot at the election—if a freeman— Reformers, we say, will rejoice to see that Lord SA ND ON'S barefaced attempt to shield his friends at Liverpool from the consequences which must ensue from a fair and full inquiry completely failed. The real respectability of Liverpool, the merchants and tradespeople of that wealthy town, are much obliged to his Lordship for wishing to tie them to the corrupt body amongst which he finds his principal supporters. We have at last some evidence of the progress of sound commercial knowledge in France, and that the labours of the English Government to produce some modifications of the prohibitory system, have not been in vain. The Moniteur of Tuesday announces, from the Minister of Commerce, that the whole of the tariff of France will be examined at the next Session, with a view to liberalizing them ; while an ordi nance in the same Moniteur allows, among many other facilities, the exportation of raw and thrown silk—a concession long and earnestly demanded by the English manufacturer as a fair compensation for the admission of silk stuff into England. We rejoice in the triumph of these liberal principles. They will bear much fruit. We congratulate the country on the verdict of acquittal yesterday, at the Old Bailey, by an honest and intelligent Jury, in the case of GEORGE FUR S EY, who was charged with stabbing a policeman during the well-known Caithorpe-street affair. The Jury could have given no other verdict, which, indeed, they might very honestly have insisted on returning at the close of the prosecutor's evidence, though, like strictly conscientious men, they decided on sifting and weighing (even to the minutest atom) every scrap and fragment of evidence, no matter how superfluous and irreconcileable with com mon sense. The case broke down under the examination of the very first witness (the pro secutor), who said, " (liter I had received the blow, I retired back two or three paces ; I then looked particularly at the prisoner, and saw an instrument, like a dagger, in his right hand." And yet, when he comes to be subjected to a cross-examination by no means over-rigid or searching, this witness is compelled to admit, I had my sight until I was wounded, and then my sight was taken away." This is establi-hing identity with a vengeance ! The moq despotic parson magistrate that ever existed would hesitate at committing even a poacher on such evidence. As regards the conduct of the policemen, the trial at every stage of its progress afforded abundant proofs—were any extra proof needed-- that it was marked by bare-faced violence and effrontery. What says the Rev. J. PIERCY on this subject ? " The policemen," observes this competent and respectable authority, 4 , sur rounded the people assembled, and commenced to beat them indiscriminately with their staves. Nothing whatever had been done to provoke this. The people endeavoured to escape, but the police, who were in ambush, rushed out and prevented them. Saw many knocked down, bleeding,—in fact, deluged uith blood. Saw the policemen strike men, women, and children." The Rev. Gentleman further added that he " was not examined before at the inquest, but. sent a note to the Coroner requesting to be heard before him." This should be inquired into. There was no hesitation, we remember, on the part of the CORONER, to collect, and turn to the best account, every scrap of evidence in favour of the policemen : how comes it, then, that such reluctance was shown to admit the testimony of a clergyman, who expressly states that he " was in such a position as commanded a view of the whole meeting and ground to the end of Calthorpe-street ?" We repeat, this must be inquired into. But, indeed, the whole business must be made the subject of a search ing, unsparing investigation. Honest, peace able folks must not " be deluged with blood" with impunity. They must not have their brains knocked out, just as if they were so many sheep in a slaughter-house. One Man chester Massacre is quite enough in a century —and so Sir FRANCIS BURDETT ~ voulo think, were not his thoughts just now t oo much engr osse d w ith th e more important con. sideratiou of a Peerage. It must be exceedingly refreshing—to qtiotc a phrase never before used —to the Whigs tc, find that their reign has been almost as mucl, distinguished by a display •of brute violence against the people, as that of the Tories. It the. latter had their " Peterloo," the former have their " Coldbath.fields." It' Tory yeomanry cut men to pieces in Manchester, Whig police , knocked their brains out in the metropolis. Lord SIDMOUTH sanctioned the former p! ceediugs, Lord MELBOURNE actively super tended r the latter. We protest that we know I to which to accord the preference, Whig or To Both, in this instance, have done their best to rt a harvest of unpopularity, and (so far as we col to the contrary) both have been equally succe ful. Coldhath-fields is not a whit behind Peterli for though the Tory yeomanry used their swill and the Whig policemen only their staves,' 1 the amount of injury inflicted, and, above the display of brute zeal, was pretty nearly' same in both places. If Ministers have the slightest respect left ) character, they will not hesitate an instant' not one single instant—in instituting a sti inquiry into all the circumstances connect with the Calthorpe-street atrocity. When 01 they were clamorous enough in demanding investigation into the Manchester massacre ; Ilt that they are in, let them show thernselt equally alive to the not less pressing demands justice. Their consenting or omitting to ' so, will be a decisive proof of their integrity, otherwise. It is for their own sakes that' urge this demand ; for, though they have he guilty of countless blunders—which no hoot Journal, that advocates the people's cause preference to the interests of party, can possit overlook—still we would fain rank among till friends and well-wishers—fain hope that they vi yet retrieve themselves. GAS-LIGHTING. The Committee for Paving, Cle 'timing, and Lighting t/ parish of St. James, Westmins-e,, tort on WAnesdl morning, pursuant to public advertisement, to receive PO posal. for lighting the streets, &c., with gas for one ye from Michaelmas Day next. The Chartered Gas Compai having had the monopoly for the supply to that parish 14 years ending at the above period, and as the new CO' pany, called the Equitable Gas Company, had not be successful in their previous applications to be permitted! extend their mains therein, much competition between S ° two Companies was excited. Mr. GUDE attended, and stated, for the information!, the Committ ee , th a t a pl an w as matur i ng, and well' shortly be submitted to the public, to establish gas w ork in every parish. The manufacture of gas was now so cre understood, and the process so simple, that there would b! no difficulty whatever, without incurring any risk or tog, sance, and the profit, i ns t ea d o f support i ng a Joint St o Company, with an expensive establishment of Direcfo ti and clerks, would he derived by the inhabitants themselo The advantage of lighting separate parishes was not tb i only consideration —th e arti c l e o f co k e m i g h t b e 90 1 d i half its present price to yield a profit, and the other r u (l ducts arising from the works so ld to great advantage. V„ poor of the respective p irisbes m i g h t a l so b e pro fi ts h employed therein. It appeased that the Chartered Company had lately r e :, duced their charge 25 p e r cen t, t o secure t h e supply 1 this extensive and i m p or t ant par i s h, an d i t was represent_S, that by p kr i s h es manu f actur i ng t h e i r own, a much grea t saving might he effected. - The Committee, after some discussion, agreed to po t ' pone their determination for a fortnight. We understand that Sir FRANCIS BURCSI . ' has yielded to the entreaties of the Minitters, and will mediately be elevated to the Peerage. We are happy to learn that in the large tvil nufaciuring town of Leicester there is scarcely a WO unemployed. The first of the Circuits commencei morrow at Cardiff. Some surprise has been expressed at th e length of time whi c h h as e l apse d s i nce t h e R an k pu bli s h'i any list of unclaimed dividends. This information is yell itnpottant to the public, and ought not to be withheld. It transpired early on Thursday morning on 'Change that the house of FAIRLIE, CLARKE, IWO and Co., one of the first standing in the East India trade had stopped payment. The circumstance, though it hs,. given a severe shock to credit f or th e t i me i n that b ran (' of the mercantile interest, appears not to have been who' l l unexpected, since it was known that the house in Calcutt a with which this is connected had entered into some sr rangement with it s cre di tors not to press for a give" period the claims against it. There is no positive infer' oration as yet of the house in Calcutta having s uspend''' . payments, though it i s f eare d that the intelligence of dig failure here must, at all events, if it does not take pia ° earlier, produce th a t effect. Of th e li a bi l i ties o f tb' , London house there are several accounts in circulatiot s and, as is usual in such cases, varying extremely in amoun t ' I ut they are probably not near so large as they would ha r t been had the ca l am ity occurre d a year or two back, and we should be disposed to take that estimate as nearest the truth which fixes them at between 200,0001. a° 300,0001. On the means of the house to meet thos e liabilities it is impossible thus early to offer any opinion' The losses, it i s understood, will chiefly fill on tradesmet u manufacturers, and ineichants, who have supplied g ood ° for the export transactions of the house, awd on an e ster sive class of retired annuitants, who have placed thei r capital at interest with it. In this respect, and especially it the failure of the house in Calcutta should follow, the consequence must be in the highest degree calamito o ' numerous fluidics, who live at present in respectabili t i and opulence, having placed their whole means on that 0 4 ' curity. The high rate of interest paid, which was 7 c' r 8 per cent , as it was the temptation to such investmeO t t has been also one of the chief causes of the ruin of ti house in question, and of the others which have recently failed in Calcutta. The profits of trade, having naive' sally declined, could no longer afford the same high r ate of interest, but it was persisted in until It became lo'' possible to pay it.— Times. THE FRENCH COLONIES.--The Annal s Maritimes, a work published under the sanction of Go' vernment, contains the following statement of the popula' ticn and commerce of the French colonies for the year 1831 :-1. Martinique, free population 23,417, of whic h 11,628 are males, and 11,789 females. Population °( slaves e 5i836,5,259194, 13,554,477 7 f which frcs 4 ; 1,825 exports are of m d a i l t e t s o , n 2 (1 ,4 4 2 ; 4 3 :: females ; total population 109,716. Imports of merchaa" tse francs ; hal ince in favour of i mportationl,l33,ll2 franc , ' 2. Guadaloupe and dependenci. s ; free population 22,3 24 ' of which 10,555 are males, and 11,769 females. Pep; Winn of slaves 97,339, of which 47,259 are males, and 50,080 females ; total population 119.663. Imports of merchandise 11,053, 997 francs ; export of ditto 16,544,171 fran c s; diff erence i n f avour o f e xportation 5,490,174 francs, 3. Guiana; free population 3,7 80, population of slaves 19,261. In this colony there were 266 births to 417 deaths. This disproportion, which par ticularly remarked among the slaves, is owing to the disproportion of the sexes. To 7,483 males, of from 1 4 ' to 60 years, there was only 5,835 females, so that the (mb i tl, - t afos o van t 3ol ) %e i ‘:, l l. ,: a i, i tfa, ..i r.ol i ale t f, n ,ei 4i 21,6p,33i diminishes ,op8,;()::43ti67it tt. fiijznietBl Importsi2 t ,e i r 117 n ai u Bl6e a oB4o l ,s y ( : . opafftr.lo,l(: laTf:tte,hi2rsoewc.3,tlh4ai merchandise sa p fleevB c l i t nel p 4els u i:oo7 l l population ; o :o n 81:05 : 0 1 :e francs; exports of ditto 1,633,294 francs; balance I ' l h the total population is 100,558, inclmling 2,628 free Indian': Imports of merchandise 7,335,755 francs ; exports of . dam 9,910,980 francs ; difference in favour of exports' tion 2,575,225 francs.— Gallynani's Messenger. HUNTINGDON, JULY 6.--Yesterday morn ing, about eight o'clock, Mr. COOPER, baker, of this town , terminated his existence by hanging himself. F o r s ome, time past the decea se d h a d b een i n a d espon di ng state 01 mind owing to embarrassed circumstances, and in M' last he made an assi.gnment fur the benefit of his creditor* since which period he had been exceedingly low and de lected. Yesterday morning his only daughter was to ha" been married to a respectable young man, a coachmakerr , with the entire concurrence and assent of the deceased' The wedding party was assembled, and was just on 08 point of leaving for church, when 111 r. CoorEit's absene e excited observation ; inquiry was set on foot, a nd on hi s sun going to tt e flour-house, on the premises, he discover ed Lis label- suspended from a beam, and quite dead. FroUi tire time he left the house to the period o f hi s b e ing fou n d scarcely half •an-hour elapsed. He was about 60 yea r ' of age, and has left three sons and a daughter befo re alluded to. The rope which he had used was not tied to the beam, hut merely twisted round it two or three time s ' and as he w.rs a heavy man it i s rat h er remar k a bl e that i" continued firm, for on a person laying hold of it for the in pose of cutting him down, it immediately siilPed 011 Verdict—Temporary Insanity. 141P1 On enteri fifty Mernbei Mr. M. 0' Carlow, and the commut4 Mr. COB House now z At the begin Was made frc that if persi: adjournment On the in Temporalitie Mr. ROE] propriety oft petition relat (as Was unde of Fursey. Mr. HAIN had already s Lord ALT the passing interrupted understaudin the busines he ceisarY to 'c°'ne a prop, adoption of ti Mr. butt ltd be ma Were several continued in Lord A.L'j could be avoir The House Temporalitiea thebn me 131 the Blab% Mr. S HE/ to be added Would be deri Mr. STAN the t►umber e wastvrhe iw i s hed Sir tn e b c p o IP t l h e i ment had tak taken all this The Clause from 51 to 58. On the mot Mr. LYN( missioners sh Prneeeds from tome under t Mr. STAN ieetion the Mr. LEFR lion lbr an ar fund, liter a s h draw his ainc th e game eff , t he till. Clau s , co w 1 11 elattse C Wo rds, for the clate any aa,s4 Purpose totall C ame by app e , Clauses 6.5, 8') . 81 , 82, 9; 3 , servation or ai Ntr. FINN tw een 8 8 and v alue of a ben Of th e curate 1001•, to be pa Dr, LUSH] Pct. Where "tt Pluy a cur Would be to n a curate ; the Performed, ar (Hear, hear, I deteriorate tho Proving it. - Mr. SHEII amounted to 5 was little enou t nsn k curate Pas consideree —a church wl esteem ed, r d, i o nr ,l: l and from ecel, that come min salon for the Mr ' 3 TANLE clause would ; and t; l e*gen wo uid Colonel pE I of t• j. GRA the c tiergmen. hurcl S TAN w e ' res ent, an a s th e in th _ Intel that e next s l and measure citistressed mil' (Ili , D lri stsrtt tak erirrr es Werer.s4tehubhfevsi tsiwrii: Mr, FINK e.an d bei t iOl 3 'R abl e br, to • t ALI) Port th e t he cla use l'ip per that Sir m 3 :' Would ' NV o u i d have a . W that i it woUlel a s m Inte nded t etiratre Sti A NV th er he galle ry e aPPtared l ''' , th e i Against , A liori 11 The eia tY On out use 1 111 r, s li el 'te the 8 ,, Ell. -""' 4 1 Place, Wheore s atn°4 nt t t 0k ,,, o 3 00 Mr, FIN " ii terd int o ALTii th e e ffect th e dim e Parish on ultY Afr. er a i n ate e 84 EII . rt.; - .. 1