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A, T RADING to the EAST INDIES, do kt"e,N 6 tice, 4,11,4-PE9TAL GENERAL COURT o f th e sa id *lll he held by Adjournment, at their House F . en "lh o t t l e t t r u ee . , on THURS DA Y NEXT the 18th inst., , 11l !k, ie ecthiri • prAn„,,,, eration of the Papers respecting th• Rictiiiiii,larter laid before the General Court on the her opos :1: 11 11 that the Amendment, which was this (1 t o 4 , 6 .): waY of addition to the Resolution s t o. / lot% old ,Tleral Court on the 15th instant, is now Ail R0 4 ,W , 1T be r ea d y f or delivery to the Proprietors ' e St Ten o'clock To-morrow morning. PETER AUBER, Secretary. ana plo r " 3 , egg! !cretary, TAL I ' S/OP ito . 00 Vt. itervievii 1 1*. tie [looter, e Sestet ndaY resterdop (No. 12,668.) LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING. APRIL 17, 1833. ( PRICE 7D.) EAST INDIA HOUSE, APRIL 16. lIVIPERIAL PARLIA EN r. HOUSE OF COMMONS. APRIL 16 The SrzAxeK • ntrte i the H, l c e shortly after five o'clock. MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS. A Message from ae Lords announcers that their Lord ships had agreed to Soane's Mo-eum Bill the D nbigh Road B'll, and the Abergavenny Road Bill, without amend o'en t. VAIA:IATIT—Z'i;,7,-------- ry, VES TMENTS.—FREEHOLD AND '1•0 BE GROUND-RENTS. J liviiti.paSbfieLD BY PRIVATE CONTRACT. FREEHOLD GROUN D-* e ll 4 0 ` of 52L per annum, land-tax redremed, e ' r °Yd: ll 44 'n eight houses, five of which are fronting the NI a toad, and three adjoining in the rear ; all let .d 10 pivt"lTng to a valuable Ground-rent : will be sole Ihle eiOy t o u l t , Pint baser 4 1 ' per cent. Al.o a Yalu' asne NI.. 4G oniul-rent nt 65/. per annum, subject to the 'eternal °I N on death or alteration, of only 3i., with _. linear t°t4E•ttte in nine year.. Toe letn th °I, hbasea, with shops, in one of the most popu f: property con tiositntaaktflllrares of Brighton ; at present let at ten Nl lllnti g bi a b out 1001., but estimated to be worth 1 201. J3A,,, To; be mold for 1,300. t ri Z to Messrs. 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SOCIETY, 71, LEADEN - HALL_STREET. 41 b t.i .tIIiURNELL respectfully solicits the c40,-Acty and Gentry to inspect the largest and 14 4 Z. ‘t ' ' tock of Cabinet and Upholstery Goods in Si,,. ll 4lZ:'e CABINET-MAKERS' SOCIETY, '7l, i s ,le k , - .4 . , ti4 1 ,, , t, City, which Society is enrolled agree to itil rarliament, Bnd founded for the support ‘ 4 lll ) t od t Zent of industrious Mechanics, who all coin ' Ile to t i 14 i C tit i lnly the very best Articles, prov'itle for its Il etuS old age, and burial, and for survivors F% h ' By order of the Trustees, , p o :ls hi. . THOS, HASLER, Secretary, 4 44? b it iz ooal i„„_ 4i tto tc Alt ''' 47 four, 71, Leadenhall-street, City. `,Servants' chest of Itor4 k Wliii 4o 44: k l f . h _ • ..... .Z 3 15 0 ; drawers £2 2 0 lath', tini„,..,_ ti 4: ...... 18 0 Mahogany Pembroke 1 16 0 ic , re..!...: 7a l e, e-,, 315 0 table z 4 . Attr ess 'Mahogany diking table 3 3 0 44t%d'is' "tat ' .. 1 ' . 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Mr. INl‘KisiNos, in continuation, said— From the nature of the whole propositions he could not suppose that the Government had taken time to consider the question, for it was one that required much consideration, being one of the greatest importance —being nothing less than a material change in the trade with China, and the government of India. It was to be lamented that such opinions should be. abroad as those, because when the trade to India was opened, a great number of the manufactures of this country had been exported. The same would be the case when the trade with China was opened. But China bore no analogy to India what. ever—it differed from that country in almost everything. There was a great cry for a free trade with that country ; but merchants, if allowed to go there, would find that they would meet with men who were well acquainted with the principles of commerce, viz, to buy as cheap as possible, and sell to the best advantage.—(Hear, hear, hear.) He spoke with feelings of great respect of the Hong Merchants, for in them he had found friends when he was in need of them, and he had seen them do actions of kindness and humanity that would do honour to an Englishman. The Ministry ap peared to be much misinformed with respect to the manner in which the trade was carried on between the Companyand China and the sooner they made themselves acquainted with it the better. They seemed to forget that the trade with that country was carried on entirely through ten or twelve men, appointed by a most jealous Government. Did they know that, in the seventeenth century, in China, they had five ports open, but that now all were closed but. Canton ? At the time those ports were open, it was well known the trade was carried on entirely by a system of bribery.—(Hear, hear. They should also bear in mind that Cochin China had excluded the Dutch even after they had traded for many years and had established a factory, and that on many occasions they had excluded the Russians. He was not a friend of monopoly in any shape, but he would ask whether free trade could be carried on when it was only on one side ? Could it be carried on in the port of Canton, amidst all the jealousy that there existed, and being only confined to a few men? He would read an extract from a letter written by a gentleman of high character, uncon nected with the Company, in 1818. It was relative to the ap pointment of a Consul in China. It stated that such an officer would not be recognized by the Government, and could not put up, being the representative of his Majesty, with the insults that would be offered to him. He could not bear to have his letters returned nnopened ; and still uphold the national dig. nity. Also that habit had the force of law in that country, and that even though a Consul was resident, the natives would look up to the head of the factory, who got his great name from the high character of the Company. He was of opinion that it would be impracticable to place the regulation of the Indian revenue in the hands of a King's officer—(Hear)—and lie was confident that it would be unwise and impolitic for the Government to allow private ships to trade with China. This was not his own opinion alone, but it was also the opi. nion of those who were much more capable of judging of the subject than himself; in particular, he was supported by a petition which was presented to the House of Commons eighteen months or two years ago, from the British residents in China, which lie would take the liberty of reading. The Hon. Gentleman then read the petition, in which the great superiority of the Company's agents, and their great influence, with the Chinese Government were asserted to be such as no private individual could ever hope to possess.' In reading that document, he did not do so merely for the in. formation of the proprietors, but for the informa tion of the public, who he thought should have all the information upon this important subject which it was pos. sible to obtain.—(Hear, hear, hear.) That petition proved the superiority which the Company must always have in trading with China, and that in all cases when redress for injury is to be sought for, while an individual would fail in his application the Company is certain of obtaining it. Those were important facts in the considera tion of this momentous question. He asked what com. mercial establishment, either in Asia or elsewhere, equalled the Company's establishment at Canton in extent and importance ? would it be prudent to place that great establishment, which had been so long and so extensively conducted, to place it in other hands ? He was sure It would not, for that establishment had hitherto been considered as essential to the Chinese government. lie asked what change had taken place to justify such a course? He knew of no consideration of mutual interest which could reasonably require so great a change. At a club where he drank tea last night, he met several Members of Parliament, and, some how or other, the subject of tea was introduced— (Laughter)—and all present were decidedly of opinion that fresh black teas were better Ilan old.— (Laughter.) The Chinese, however, invariably preferred old black tea to fresh, and he believed that flood tea, the longer it was kept the better.—(Laughter.) He bad at the present time in his pos session tea that had been brought from China twenty-eight years ago, and if any gentleman would do him the honour of taking a cup with him, he had no hesitation in saying that he would not find better inGrosvenor-place or any other part of Lon don.—( A laugh.) In making these observations, he did not refer to green tea, but he would ask what security would the public have against the adulteration of tea if the Company were to be depriyed of their china trade.—(Hear) At present under the judicious arrangement and superintendence of the Company, the public were secured against such an adulteration, but if the plan proposed by Ministers was adopted, that would be put an end to.—(Cheers.) It had been said that the Americans could obtain teas from China at a cheaper rate than the Com pany, he admitted that at times, when there was a scarcity of money in China, they might do so, but it could not be at a I con sidered as a general thing ; but the Company, it must be remembered, had the advantage ; they always had the se:ection p the hest black teas.—(Hear.) He had great confidence in the President of the Board of Control and in his Majesty's Ministers; and be felt assured, that before Ministers sun. milted this great and important question to the con sideration of Parliament, they would well consider the in calculable value of the India trade to China, and would bear in mind that India was one of the greatest military powers in the world—(Cheers)—and had been greatly instrumental in adding to the military character of England. It must also be remembered that India yield au immense revenue to this country, on whom it had never been a burthen.—(Hear, hear, hear.) This country was, therefore, bound in gratitude to consult the benefit of that country; but was that to be done by abolishing the power of the Company ?—(Loud and continued cheering) He thought that no man pre sent would be rash enough to say that it was ; the Company had just clai ns to the privileges they now enjoyed, and the country owed them for the manner which they had conducted the affairs of India an immense debt of gratitude. The worthy proprietor coniuded by thanking the court for the patience with which they had heard him.—(Cheers-) Mr. WADING said, it was highly important that in the en. deavours to come to a proper and just conclusion upon this subject, they should look solely to the fact of the case, and therefore he had some reason to complain of the use which the Hon. Gentleman who had just sat down had made of the petition which he had read. That petition was presented in 1830, and was consequent on the alarm that was raised, and the advice that was given to the Proprietors to withdraw their capital, for their commerce was in danger. That petition showed what was well known, via. the great influence possessed by the Company, but it also showed the great extent of the foreign trade with China, that while the Company's trade had been 11 millions, the foreign trade was upwards of 30 millions. He was aware to what an extent the revenue of India had increased since 1814, when the existing charter was re newed, and he knew also, that that increase did not arise from any increase o; taxation, but from the increase of trade, cepital, and population, together with the introduction of better laws.—( Hear, hear.) He would beg to refer the Pro prietors to the evidence before them, with the view of coming to a determination of what they now should do. The Hon. Gentleman then read from the documents which had been published, the first intimation made to the Corn. pany by the Government, while the Duke of Wel. lington was in office—and when the period was arriving when it was necessary to give the usual Parliamentary otice respecting the renewal of the Company's charter, with a view of showing what was then the intention of the Government, He wished to put the real question before the proprietors, and it was this. Their lease expires in 1834, and, as appeared at present, there was no possibility of their getting a renewal of it. That being the case he would ask the friends around him whe ther there could be a more convenient time than the present in which to make concessions? Let them then say to the Govern ment, we will snake such and such concessions, upon the un derstanding that you will grant us a liberal compromise. He must say that'he had great confidence not only in the Directors, but in the men whom they employed, and he must say that in the whole of the correspondence they had the best of the arguments, and had totally beat the Government. All that they said was, if you do not do so and so, as we have made up our minds, we will pass Acts of Parliament, and then see in what situation you will stand. There seemed , to be a great lack of knowledge among the Ministry. Would any one have believed, unkss they had read it , t hat at this day it would be said that the territorial debts should be paid by the commercial assets, because upon the bonds the same names appeared as on the others.? Wh . y, what would be said of any person saying that Exchequer Bills ought to be paid by Lord Grenville, because his na me appeared on them? Yet the cases were parallel. He was sorry that he could not agree with the last speaker; but he could not put any confidence in the wisdom, and less in the intentions, of the Right Hon. Gentleman who was at the head of the Board of Control. He might do very well at the Board of Trade, where he formerly, was, but he was misplaced where he was. He agreed in the opinion that Ministers, in wishing to open the trade to China, were desirous of succumbing to popular opinion ; but amidst all the sacrifices they asked the Company to make was one most monstrous propositition, viz., that the Company should take the Government of India without any of The posveri to enable them to govern it well.—(Hear.) He declared that he could place no faith in the integrity of the pro- positions of h;s Majesty's Ministers.—(Hear.) It appeared that Ministers had even sought for opinions among the ser. vents of the Company to justify them, and among those servants was Mr. Hope Mackenzie, now a member of the Board of Con_ trout, who had assisted the Right Hon. Charles Grant, in his measures for the good Government of India. That gentle. man, to a question put to him relative to the appointment of persons who had heretofore been appointed by the Company, gave his opinion, that in the event of the contemplated .hinge, if the Government of England be administered on prin ciples of strict economy, it would be desirous to place the patronage of the Government of India in the hands of the King's Government--(Hear, hear.) If the Government of England were to be conducted economically, was it not monstrous that that should be done at the sacrifice of India?—(Hear, hear.) The good government of India, and the good government of this country were inseparable, but it seemed that to do one the other must be sacrificed. Yet that was the opinion given by Mr. Mackenzie, who was himself educated at the college at Hertford.—(Hear, hear.) One of the propositions was that the Company should not have power to recall the Governor.. General. The appointment of that officer was at present in the Company, although the Crown had to approve of the selec tion, and if the Company should have the power of appointing him, unless they had also the power of recalling him when oc casion required it, both countries might possibly be put to great inconvenience.—(Hear.) It might in that case be in the dis. crction of a Minister of the Cr . own to keep his friend in the situation of Governor-General, although there might be good grounds for recalling him. Unless that proposition be altered, he, for one, would not consent to make any sa crifice at all.—Let that be done, and he was willing to make great sacrifices. He thought the propositions of the Hon. and Gallant General (Sir John Malcolm) more deserving support than those of the Ministers.—(Hear.) — Having read those resolutions, he stated that he had no doubt that the revenue of India would be greatly augmented by the introduction of a good system of laws by which all the Indian commodities would be encouraged and brought to proper mar. kets.—(Hear, hear.) What were the Company now called upon to do by the Government? Why, to relinquish all their trade with India for the sake of English interest. Was that, he would ask, nothing ? He had consulted with several proprietors, and such was their feeling on the subject, that they had expressed their determination to give up their stock sooner than be plundered of their assets.—(Cheers.) The menaces which had been held out to force the proprietors to give up their assets were unworthy of Englishmen, and as one, he looked upon them with detestation. With part of the resolution proposed yesterday he could not agree, but with general propositions embraced by them he must heartily con curred. He was much afraid, with the Hon. Member who had proposed the resolutions, that the Company must submit to give up their exclusive privilege of trading to China, as he did not think that Parliament would give them that privilege again. Indeed, it was his opinion, that if exclusive trade was denied to the Company, they would themselves relinquish the China trade.—(No, no.) Notwithstanding that negative, he finnly believed they would have further reason that no corporate body c‘aild carrT on trade in competition with private indivi duals.—(llear, hear.) The transactions of corporate bodies could not be conducted so as to insure that profit which private adventurers would obtain.—(llear, hear.) With re spect to the privileges which the 'Right Honourable Se eretary of the Board of Controul had held out should be granted to the Company, he (Mr. W.) should like very much to know what they were, as he confessed himself utterly incapable, at the present moment, of discovering them. However, be they what they might, he hoped that the Court would take care that any measure that was adopted should give them such privileges as they were entitled to enjoy.— Cheers.) Mr. M`KINNON explained. Sir CHARLES DALBV said that, unaccustomed as he was to public speaking, be would not have addressed the Court had it not been for some of the observations that had fallen from some of the former speakers. It had been stated by the Hon, and Gallant Gentleman who was so long in possession of the House yesterday, that they held the Government of India on a very slight foundation—(Hear, hear, hear)--he would therefore impress upon the Honourable Court of Directors, in all their dealings upon the subject, to bear that in mind, for it was impossible to suppose that we could govern India with 30,000 in the spirit of coercion, we must therefore govern it by showing that they were acting in the utmost spirit of impar tiality and good faith. When speaking upon good with respect to the natives, he would allude to another question of much the same nature, he meant to the good understanding that ought to be between the Company and its servants, both civil and military.— (Hear, hear.) He alluded more particu. tarty to the military service, and he spoke not from any disappointed feeling, for while he held a command in India he had been most liberally rewarded, and would always feel obliged to the Court of Directors for it, but he would impress upon them the necessity of liberally rewarding the military in their service, and the absolute necessity there was for making the accounts of allowances more intelligible. He could assure the Court, that with the little knowledge of accounts that he had he never could make them out—(a laugh)—and it was always the first duty of an officer, on his arrival in that country, to require an explanation from the Government of the scale of allowances. Mr. JACKSON said the real question before the Court was, whether they could agree to the resolutions of the Gallant Gentleman, and if they could not, then what alterations sho Id be made in them. All he wchild require of the Governmen was, that they should not press harder on the Company than they were obliged to do by the general voice of the people, for it was well known that they, or any Government, must obey it.—(No, no ; and hear, hear.) If the people of the coun try had not called for a change, would they hay 2 had the pro positions that were now offered them ? The terms of their concession was all that was now left them to consider, for the command had come from a higher power, and all they had to do was to obey. In his opinion, India could not be governed with other governors than as at pre sent by the Directors ; for if the natives were made acquainted with the fact that their power was crippled, nothing could save the country. The Hon. Proprietor eulogized the comma of Sir John Malcolm, and said it was a most fortunate thing for the Company to have such an adviser, who had gathered expe rience while serving them for more than forty years,. One great consideration was the allowing of any persons to settle in India, for the natives were not now as they were in 1784. They now spoke our language, read our newspapers, and even printed their papers in their own language. If they were ripe for such a blessing as a free press, he would be the last in the world to keep it from them ; but when they saw that even in enlightened Europe the people were scarcely prepared .for it, what dire effects would it cause in India among such a people as was painted by the Hon. and Gallant General, How long would the country be in our possession ?—(Hear, hear.) The natural result of such a change, at the present time, would be the expulsion of the present Masters. A proposition similar to the present was once proposed by Mr. Charles Fox, which instantly led to his poll. tical anihilation, for even the men who cried out for an open trade, said to his Bill, no, we will not bo benefited by the robbery of the Company. The proposed security he denounced as a hol low and deceptive one, and one not fit to be received by that Court. They were threatened by Mr. Grant, too, that if they did agree to the compromise that was offered by him, he would overwhelm them by making them show that their trading profits since 1794 were not their own. This was just like a debtor saying to a creditor, no doubt I owe you a sum of money, but if you ask me for it, I wit get an injunction from the Chancellor against you ; I will throw you into Chancery. Suppose they were to conclude that they would not close with this proposition, without you fudy secure us our dividend, from a source that will not press upon the native of India. Let them say, rather perish our dividends than lose our honour, by having it wrung from the poor and op pressed native. What was to hinder them from trading, for they had ships and every thing ready, and could start in a week. They would not then be bound to their ten and a half per cent., and would not that be bet ter than drawing their dividends from the tears of the Indians. He would conclude his observations by moving an amend. ment, as an addition to the resolutions proposed by Sir John Malcolm. The Honourable Proprietor then handed in his resolution, which was to the effect that the Directors do not agree to the propositions of Government, unless the Pro prietors have the power to invest their own assets in the public funds, or otherwise as they might think proper, in order to secure to them their dividends. _ _ . The motion was seconded, and the amendment ordered to be printed, On the motion of Major GOWAN, the Court (at 5 o'clock) was adjourned, till 12 o'clock on Thursday. TIIE TIN TRADE.-A meriting of the per- COGIIeCICII with the tin tre.:le was held this day, at STEVENS'S Hotel, Truro, which was most respectably at ten led. L. C. DA CBAZ, Esq., was called to the c. air, on the motion of our County Member, E. W. W. PEN DAKvEs, Esq. A memori rl presented to the KING, as Duke of Corn,vall, for a remission of the onerous nuts levied on tit), with the reply given by order of his MA JESTY. were read. In this reply, the KING declares that he cannot give up his hereditary right to the tin duty paid to the Duchy, hut that all the tees shall be remitted, ex cept the post gro its, es hi;:h a e betel on lease, and which there is reason to believe will also he re witted, in a few years, when the lease expires; coinaiges are to be held every six weeks, and Hayle is to be made a coinage town. The me , ting passed some resolutions expressive of their thanks for the relief granted, but also of their regret that an arran:;ement court not have been made to remit the duty, which was the last remnant of an explode sy•tem ij England, Icy levying a tax on a native productmo to raw state ; and starin,!, that it the importation of Banta tin should continue, they joust again press their claims for relief upon the Government. —West Briton. PICKERING AND WHITBY RAILROAD. On the motion of Mr. CAYLEY, the Picketing and Whitby Railway Rill waa read a third time and paled. MARYLEBONE ELECTION. Sir R. INGLIS (in the absence of his Noble Friend, the trqois of Cisandos) cailed the att-intion of the House to she notice which his Noble Friend had given, on pre senting a petition from Abraham Wilkinson, praying to he allowed further time to enter into tecneW2 z.nces to prose cute a petition against the return for Mitylehone. Toe application was solely in the House; and although it would be an act of rrace to grant it, yet it was not unusual to allow such applications. 'the intention of the petition r to enter into his recognixtnessos was bona file ; hut it happened, that while one of the stinsties aventled before th- examiner, the other, by mistake. was waiting in the lobby of the House ; when the perisal had expired, he was found. but it was too lite. Under th-se eircuinstani es, the Hon. Baronet moved that the peti tioner he alluwed until Alonday next to complete his recognizances. Ar. O'CONNELL had always under.tond tbat the petitioner should be c 'fled in, and be requir,d to confirm what was stated in is petitinn. The SPEAKER requested the Sergeant to see if Abra ham Wilk;n..on was in attendance. Jr. HU.VIE thought there was no ground whatever for even calling the petitioner in. The rules of the 11,, use had nut been complied with, and according to the peti tioner's own showing be hid been guilty of gross negligence. The petitioner had received great indulgence before the ex:►miner, and now to make such an application was the most trumpery proceeding imaginab:e. He hoped the House would not countenance any such vexatious sppli ca,ion. Mr. O'CONNELL said it appeared that the petitioner did not even know the face of one of their own sureties. It looked very much I.ke getting up a thing.— (A lau,.h, and hear.) Mr. S RICE was strongly opposed to the motion, for it appeared the petitioner had received considerable in dulgence already. He thought that even if the petitioner was called in, and proved the facts stated in the petition, these facts did not make out a case to justify the House in granting the motion, and, therefore, in his opinion, it was unnecessary to call the petitioner in. Sir R. INGLIS. in supporting the motion, expressed his intention of taking the sense of the House upon it. The House th••n dividA, when there appeared, For the motion 22 Against it 62 Major;ty against the motion Mr. HUME moved for returns of certain monies re ceived by the Commissioners of Woods and Forests; and for other returns, the particulars of which were inaudible. A conversation then took place relative to the C ou• mission tif Inquiry into the manufacturing districts, be tween Mr. W. PATTEN, Mr. LYNCH, arid Lord ALTHORP. Mr. HUME asked when the returns, relative to sine_ cures awl diplomatic expenses, which had been otdered, would be lit d upon the table. Mr. S RICE said he hoped in the course of this week. Mr. EWART tieferre i his motion winch stood for this day, and gave notice of his intention to move for a Bill to remove the Lancashire Assizes from Lancaster to Liver pool. Sir EARDLEY WILMOT rose to bring in his Bill to alter and amend so much of the Act of 7 and 8 of Geo. IV. cap, 23, as relates to prweedings in indictment* against offenders, who had been previously convicted of felony ; anti to alter and amend so much of the said Act -is relates to the proceedings by ind.crtnent against persons tinder seventeen )ears of a2e, charged with simple larceny. The Hun. Baronet consideted some such measure as lie now p op lied was loudly call d for, the offences committed by young prisons having in. st materialy increised h ithin the last few years. Three.pai ts of the nuiniter of persons convicted at she Sess•ons were under 20 years of age. The clij et of this was to rave such offnders more summarily stied t oil punist ed, and to avoid convictions for felony, the off-nee being to be changed by this Act into a mis- denie moor. Mr LAMB thought the first objet the Hon. Baronet had iii view was already attained, because the Judges did not in the first instati, tell the Jury to find whether a pri soner -ad bet , n fore convicted.—(Ct tit the Jury knew i , .") He agreed it was not tight a jury should he prejudiced by hari is that ktiowl,te; and if the H n. Baronet could succeed in preventing the jury Irons knowir , g that a prisoner i.at: been betore convicted, he should be glad. With rer2tod to he second object. the Hon. Baronet had in view, it was certainly very desira.ile that tioys not har dened to criore should he sparrd the contamination of the rissociai.s usuary m t with whilst waiting in gaol to take th-ir trial ; hot he confessed that he saw gnat dificul y in the Honourable Baronet so framin4 this Bill as not to let yourig experiet ced thieves, bred up in crime from their cradks, escape, under the protection of the minor punishments to he awarded t.y th e juvenile tribunals the Honourable Baronet pro.. posed to erect. He thought it would be difficult also to six the precise age unier which buys shout I be, to entitle themselves to the benefit of these lighter but more speedy punishments. Some boys showed as much apti tude both for goo I and evil at nine years of &le as others did at 14. On account of these and other difficulties, 11r. Portman, not now in the House, had been obliged to drop a similar Bill lie once brought in. Perhaps the Hon. Baronet might be able to steer clear of those difficulties, and then f -re he should be happy to see his plan laid be fore the House. The object he hail in view was certainly a most , esirable one Sir T. FREEMANTLE supported the motion. lie considered the present system as only fitted to entrap a jut) , into a verdict of guilty.—(Hear, hear, hear.) He had been a Member of toat Houma-Al • House when Mr. Davenport hail introduced his Bill on this sub ject, and he (Sir T. Freemantle) bad then supported his propositions, and to the estati•i•hment of a separate juris diction fur tte juvenile t ffenders, he thought the great evil of it would be, .tioit a lighter punishment tieing by law awarded to persons and-r a e,rta•o age, experienced thieves would, in place of committing, depredations themselves, employ those young persons to the great injury of public virtue. The great obj , cr was to guard ag,inst the contamination of hose young offenders in gaol ; and he thought that might be otherwise effected. Sir 0 MOSELEY also supported the motion ; and stated that, as Ciair man of the Staffordshire Quarter Sessions, one half of the offenders who were brought before him were under the age of twenty-one. It was totally impossible., even under the best cyst-in of gaol di•eipline to keep the juvenile ori sutlers apart from the more practised offender. At St.dford they bail instituted a school for the purpose of protecting them from the influence of injurious example and association in the gaol ; but it had nut been found tffecrual. The greatest evil in the present system was, that there was no prorr distinction drawn between minor and more gr ive felonies. He had seen a young pet son committed for stealing three eggs and alter bt•in g in prison for two months previous to trial, was then brought up with as much parade of public jus tice, as if he had stolen so many hundred pounds. — (Hear , " ear• ) In this way the juvenile offenders got hardened. It would be far better, he thought, that a summary jurisdiction should be bad over such eases by Magistrates who could dispose of them more speed.ly, with less expense to the counties, and with much better effect to the offenders themselves. He held trial by jury to be the great palladium of our liberties, but it would be just as easy to get a jury at the pe tty as at the quai ter sessions. If the offender called for a jury, he could be remanded for three days, and then trit-d before a jury at the petty sessions, but if he chute he could be tried I,y two Magistrates owy. It had been t rvthe Right Hon. 0 ntleman (Mr. Lamb) , t i b lo a e tin ed by p. : pulou s districts, like the metropolis, the buys were as experienc e d as the adult thieves, of whom they wee made the tools and instruments. That, be thought, was owing to boys twin!, imprisoned at an early age for comparatively insi4ntficant offences, and confined with older offenders. The Bid was, in his opinion, o f very or-at importatice, and would be pro,luctive of much good. , „ tie 'Jolt d, the House would not lose sight of it. COBBETT hail no in ention to oppose the motion for bringing in toe Bill ; but at every subsequent stage, if the 11:11 extended the power of the Magistrates, or went to dispense with the triil by jury, lie would divide the House upon it, though he stood singly. The trial by jury hail been growing less and less during the last forty years. If they only went on'at this tilt-, and ulloa•ed Magistrates to try offences which subjected men to transportation without a jury, five years would not elapse before they would bang men without a trial by jury —(Cries of " No, no. ') Gentlemen might say no ; but already the M gis trates punished forty times more than the Judges.—(Hear, hear.) Who were these Magistrates? He spoke it with great respect to the two Hon Baronets; but they did not take into consideration the deficiencies of these Magistrates themselves; they did not consider that many of the Magis trates were clergymen of the Church of England, looking for preferment—(Hear, hear)—that many were half•pay officers o' the army or of the navy, looking for promotion ; yes, many of these Magistrates were half-pay officers, and a more dependent set of men were not to be found on the face of the earth. To such Magistrates he would give no additional power. It was exceedingly difficult to legislate with respect to young people, on account of the very great difference among them in all the circumstancea which c:rnstitute criminality. A child of Cue yews was frequeotly more advanced in that respect than one of fiiteen, and .it frequently happened that a youth of fifteen was more ac qitainted with p ,rticulars of what he ought to he iv wait, and more skilful in all the means of avoiding , deteetion when he had committed a c•ime, than a young man of twenty-one or twenty-two. It was im►rrrasinle to provide for all these contingencies. The Hon. Memher concluded by repeating his intention to oppose the Bill in all the fu ture stages. Mr. - iIARDY was understood to support the motion. Whether they wee members of the church or were con nected with the army, he had never seen men mole dis. pus, d to'do their duty than the • magistrares in general. Spe , king of them as a b.,dy, he considered them to be as nub aetu ited by an anxious wish to do their duty to the heat of their abilities as the Hon. Menywr for (Munn himself He had no wi4i in these observations to curry favour with his Majesty's Ministers. Mr. CORBETT explained. Mr. CHARLES BULLER alluded to a case of juvenile delinqn , ney, in which the young criminal was imprisoned for stealing a few potatoes for his Sunday dinner, and exposed to the danger of that contamination Which is unavoidable in the society of the usual inmates of a pt icon. He would, hvwevt r , h ye no objection to allow boys the benefit of the trial by jury. An HON_ MEMBER, objected to Magistrates possessing such extensive powers of summary convictions. He suggested the propriety of referring the subject to a Com mime up stairs, who should examine the whole question of secondary punishments. Mr. O'CONNELL could not allow the sulij-ct to pass without protesting against the deprivation of juvenile nd,rs of the benefit of tri •I by jury. He was friendly to the principle of inquiring into the previous character of prisoners. Nothing could be of wore unportanc.r thsn to impress upon persons the idea that character constituted a species of ea-tie. In his opinion, many of the proceed . ings on criminal trials were the most farcical that could easily be imagined. Nothing, for instance, could be more ridiculous than the scruples which were made about al lowing a prisoner to convict himself. The pri-oner in his opinion, ought to be called upon to explain any circum stance which might appear t►y the evi fence to be of an equivocal nature. 1, , r41 Alansfi -Id deserved great credit for the good sense of his remarks upon the subject. He hope:i he should live to see the time when ev.-ry criminal should be interrogated as to the particulars of the transaction tespection which he was accused. He would not advocate tie subjecting of a prisoner to any duress, to any imprisonment, to any torture, in order to extort a confession from him ; nor would he de • sire that a prisoner should, as in a neighbouring coun try, be subjected to all the ingenious cross-questioning on the part of the Judge, which was usual in a case conducted by counsel; but nothing could be more preposterous than the caution frequtartly given from the Bench to a prisoner ► not to criminate himself. Instead of using every method in order to reach the real facts of the case, it was not un- usual, upon a prisoner pleading guilty, tor the Judge to point out to him the favouraole point in the evidence, and to advise the prisoner to withdraw his plea, and take the chances of a trial. He had known V•at caution given in the case of a very bad murder. The criminal took the Jud.ae's advice, anti was succe.sful is obtaining a favour abl•• verdict; but he died in prison. There was also too much di-lay before the trial. The whole system of criminal trials required revision ; and the basis of the re form should be to make them come on snore rapidly, and to get rid of those foolish scruples, which operated as a protection to the guilty. Mr. SANFORD defended the conduct of the Magis trates. _ _ Lord JOHN RUSSEL agreed in the propriety of ques tinning the prisoner, and making inquiries respecting, pre vioirii character. Mr. RICHARD POTTER mentioned a ca,te, in which a juvenile offender hid nearly been sent to the tread-mill for see ,line 161 is of dung. Sir E. WILMOT agreed to alter the Bill according to the sug,otions :chicle had been thrown out. Leave eratited in iiring in the Bin. ALTERATIONS IN THE CRIMINAL LAWS. Mr. LENNARD, in rising to submit his promised motion, said, that when his Hon. Friend the Member for Middlesex, some weeks ago, presented the London peti tion for *he improvement of the criminal code, they were reminded, and very properly, of the great improvement which had already ern made in it. Although he fully aianitted that, yet he thought it could not be denied that much still remained to be done before the criminal code of laws could be said to be in a satisfactory state. The more the public were accustomed to consider the subject of crininal jurisprudence, the more anxious did it become to remove ell traces of that sanguinary character which were impressed on it in those times when, in the words of Mirabeau, blood, and nothing but blood, and pounds of 11--sh, were required for every offence. He wished the Government had leisure to undertake an entire revision and reform in the criminal code. It seemed to him that such a work could be best done by the Government. But there were many gentlemen in that House whose opinions were entitled to great authority who entertained a different opinion, and who thought that the necessary im prnvement in our code were hest made by the exertions of individual members bringing forward motions for such amendments as to themselves might seem most convenient. He teal therefore determined to bring under the omit iteration of the House the state of the law in regard to two offences, respecting which he thought there would be no question but that the law ought to be changed. But the change he should propose was rather nominal than real. The laws denouncing punishment i f bath on the crimes of housebreaking with larceny, and stealing in a dwelling-house, any one therein being put in fear, had 1-,ng been all but dead letters in the s atute-hook. They had been for meny years, and they could now be, nut very rare:y executed, and they seemed only to he left on the statute-book as a remnant of the barbarism of former times. Looking at the returns, it would he seen that for the crime of housebreaking during tie last seven ears, out of every 91 in Engiand and Wales who had been convicied, not more than one had been executed Taking the last two years, the proportion of executions to convictions 'vas still less. In 1831, out of 517 convic tions there had been only one excution. In 1832, out of 583 convictions there had been only four executions; and in this latter case he believed it would be Mund that these which were sta ed to be executions for housebreak ing were in reality executions for burglary. He had been informed that this was the ease on authority in which be placed the greatest confidence. Now, during the same two years in London and Middlesex, although there had been 122 convictions for this off- ace, there had net been one execution. It was true that it was stated that in the year 1832 one execution bad taken place, but th.t was a mistake. The execution alluded to was that of I)rewitt, and his offence was certainly nut bousebre k ing, but burglary. Of the other off-nces, va., robbery, Sec , no distinct mention was made of it in the re turns, but be supposed it was included under the general bead of larceny, Sze. An.. with respect ni that offence, what did the returas shun'? Why, that out of 567 who had been convicted of that offence to Eneland and Wal. s. 14, only had been executed. That in 1832, out o 59 persons convicted, none were executed. In 1831, out of 113 who were convicted, only one was executed, and , o on. Again, to London and Middlesex, during the last three years, there had been but one execution, and during the two Years preceding the last three years there had been but One execution in each year. Here, then, was expressed, in the strongest pussible manner, what Beccaria called the tacit msappronation of tin laws in the non-execution of them. If in the time o: Sir S. Roma!) , it had been admitted to have been a grave charge against our laws that not one in twenty of those who were convicted were executed, what could be said of a law of that sort where not one in -110 was executed ? In such a state of things it seemed absurd to pretend that the law could be any terror to evil doers. The criminal, were the chances were so greatly in his favour, was sure to calculate on the chance of escape. Bat it was a terror to the injured and the innocent. Those who had made inquiries into the subject knew that when in cases of that r.) ; uh e esu f :bne r l gsei escape op a we n ph d or .01 sort the law was allowed, as it was . said, to take its t course, the sure result was to make in any per sons more unwilling to prosecute than they were there were prosecutions, and to bring about that state tif things so well described by the present Archbishop of oeigi:bonrhood of persons of the best character not only re ee e met a labouring us c't with l e i a ; t r a y d n e e n e way o s u i a n to e e h ii t pion di : t ' Ole against the offences, and they could not bring themselves to incur even the remote and almost imaginary risk of ex posing a - thief to that fate. He held in his hand some tables which proved, beyond all possibility of contradic tion or doubt, the fact of the unwillingness of juries to make themselves instrumental in giving effect to the Nan rinary enactments of our code. Anything on this su:). ject, he was aware, might be looked upon as a work of t et s o rt; increase ut hibl atu:t, th e number of acquittals , where supererogation, so well ascertained was the fact; but it wee so clearly and unanswerably established by these tables, which had been drawn up with great care and la bour by Mr. Wrightson, that he was really anxious to trou.le the House with them for a few minutes. A com parison was made of the total number of acquittals on capital charges with those on non-capit-.l charges during the «even ye .rs ending 1831, from which it appeared that in England anti Wales the cente-imal propor tions of acquittals to c‘tminitments on capit eases were 28, whi , e on non capital charges the acquittals were only 19, the stiff-reuce between the two being 10. Thus in England nearly II more out of 100 com mitted ter trial were acquitted on capital than on non e pica! charges. Again, in London end Md.:les:4 it ap pears the centesiin I proportions of acquittals to commit ments in capital cases is 44 ; ditto, is min-capital cases, 20 ; the difference being 24. Why was this ? If airy looked at the number of cases in which executi ass took place in Lindon and Middlesex, and compared there with the number in England and Wales, t , a cause would be apparent. la England and Wales 5 out of every 100 we. e executed In Loudon and Middlesex 10 were executed. The greater probability t .at the last pen ,Ity of Cite law would be inflicted in the latter ca ie made juries mare re luctant to convic , as has been observed by Mr. W. ight eon, the author of those stateasente. Again, they had tables giving the centesimal poportions of executions to convic tiens, and the centesimal proportion of a quit ails to teinitnit inents for the cr lines of rubbery, burgl try, and houir-brealt- Mg in England and Wa.es, anti in L ion and Mid ii sex. Ttie first taele was tor England and Wale., the sec old for London and M dillesex, embracing a period of 21 yat a, trout 1810 to 1830. Looking at the first table, it ap peared that, throughout the whole of that period its Eeg ;and and Wales, the executions for robbery had been much more numerous than tor the other two comes in toe table. Tile acquittals for robbery had b. en much more witnerous also. In the fist period the proportion of exccutione to convictions had ronbery, 14 ; fur burglary, IS ; for housebreaking, 3. The proportion of acquittals for the same offences bad been as 36, 27, 22. Fdr the second period the elect' ions were as 12, 6, 1. In the thiid period the executions were as 6,3, 1. The acquittals were as 37, 21, 19. Again, burglary had ben pu nished who death less (Men than robbery, but more often than housebreaking. Par instauce, in the first period the executions fur burglary and housedetking were 13 and 3 ; the acquittals were 27 and 22. In the second period the executions were 6 and 1; the .cquittals w re 23 and 16. In the third period when the executiuns were 3 for bur4lary and 1 for housebieskin o the acquit tab were 21 and 19. Again, comparing the second period with the first, a considerable diminution was found to have taken place in ,the number of executions for all the three crimes in the tables. A corresponding ri t crease would be remarked in the number of acquittals. In the first period, the number of execution, being as 30, the number of acquittals were as 85 ; in the second pet iod, the executions being as 19, the acquittals fell down to 60 ; i n the third period, the executions for burglary declined in tote proportion of 6 to 3, and the acquittals for that crime declined luso. "1 he second table showed, as was observed by the author of those tables, the reluctance of juries to conv.ct of capital offences in a manner still more striking and more conclusive. In London and Middlesex robbery presented the greatest number of executions, and t e largest number of acquittals; the executions for robbery, burglary, and housebreaking being in the first period 5,3, 1 .—the acquittals 37, 22. 18 ; in the second period the executions tieing as 13, 8, s—the acquittals as 49, 34.31. It_ should be observed from that statement, that in house. breaking, where there was the smallest number of . xecu tions, there was also the smaller number of acquittals, while in burglary a medium number of executions and a medium number of acquittals. N.w, there watt one oilier view which these tables pees lard. It appeared that the executions in London and Alidllesex, in prupor iron to the convictions, were—for robbery twice ea nu • merous, fir burglary nearly three times as numerous, fur housebreaking five times as numerous as in Eneland and Wal e s. What was the effect? The acquittals ni London and Middlesex in proportion to the commttinents were, during the last seven years, one-third mare numerou than in England and Was , and that in each of the three crimes about 12 mole out of every 100 escapAl in the, farmer than in the latter. He had troutiled the House with these statements because they proved in the cleaest manner the repugnance of juries to find persons gui.ty of affences punishable with death, and he agreed with the very ingenious author of those statements, and he thought the H .use would agree oho them, that no further proofs coma be wanting. What; then, was the effect of lugattempt tobe toe excessive ?It only crime bypusenciushremd i mpunity iei t punishments which t o h tc• crime cir a test to great many cases where it ought to have been visited with a moderate punishment. With respect to the crime of hous e breaking, the law hail lately been made more s,vcre even than it was formerly. Under the old law it was necessary that property to the value of ss. should have been stolen; but by the act introduced by Sir Robert Peel that was altered, and a stealing to the smallest possible amount constituted the capital offence. Why was that course taken? He did not recollect any reason which the Right Hon. Baronet gave for it. It occurred to him that it might have been done, because. juries were in the habit of finding the value of the prtk, verty stolen under that required to constitute the capital offence. if this WAS the intention of the P.iget Rohs Baronet, he had failed, as teen ever would fail who attempted to legislate without reference to the public feel ing. Juries could not now secure the escape of the critninal by finding the property stolen to be of the value of ls. Ilit, but they effected the same object by a ver dict of stealing only. A atinilar failure had attended a so her of the enactments which formed pirt of the B It o t Right Hun. Baronet, and he mentioned it in order to, ii:ustrate ens prove the general principle which he Wag, ,ivocalin4. By the old law privately stealing in a iiwet, ling house to the value of 40s. was a capital offence. The Right Ron. Baronet, acting on a contrary principl• to tit it which he had pursues in the case of 11.usebreaking, rai.eil the value to 51. Under the old law j , irtes we.rek in the habit, in a great number of cows, of finding, tho, property stolen under the value of 40i.—viz. what did they do now? Why, they found it to the value of 995. A great deal had been said, at diff-rent times, uhun the atrocious and dangerous character of the crime of burglary; but there were two offences confessedly of touch less criminality and danger, to which the law awariltd the same putiishinent that it did to a higher and graver offence. There could not well lie a stron e er instinct., xthough the statute-book abounded with similar ones, of t - :e utter disregard of principle in the formation of the c, iininal code. Wilde it was so—while it was thus capri cious, and therefore unjust—could it be expected to obtain the respect of the public, or be iff cove for the floppies ro..n of crime? Was it not disgraceful to us to retain the capital punishment in such cases as those where toe oifence was comparatively a small one, while in oth-r states tilt.) , were making the experiment whether the ! ainislitnent of dtath might not lie dispensed with alto tzetber ? A writer, speaking particularL of the prisons of Pennsylvania, said there was the nest of all evidence— demons:naive proof—that brutal treatment, hanging, and gibbetin4 were neither the must econoinintl not the must Ilieactitus, as they were certainly neither the most humane our the most enlightened modes of punishing crime, or :donning society. o , tor states had been induced to ful -1 iw the example so successfully set by Pennsyvani t, and tip to that time with toe best effect. Ev• ry one koeuv , t.o, that Ow punishment ii death had a touhs'..st f um Tuscany for a period of 20 yews. It was rt-r . ive hy the authority of Buonaparte, and hail not ' l 7 :: e ben. fl,,:t,d. entirely attoiished, though it was very ra sly liut what was, perioap., n ot so well kno we', th it thr e Amino, a pe riot of 60 vs-{r+ in th .t " ea te l:ol t i ' ti k o, " t:, g tior 20 4 nd in t g he 20 su, • sequeitt•y— fiu.ing whom it Was abui.ae!.., a v periods of 20 years—she 20 preceding .tats-, t h an In either the piecteling or the i•utis,Au tit It was one of edise cases which, a s a tnarta of riods. f seer crimes bad be en comm it t e d during tor pet cod o t t . t, e tory, might appear /11010 riarprisii than fiatiou. But