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cline entering into that discussion; but tote reasons of his doing so were the very reasons why a Com mittee should be granted. The next point he should come to was the grant to the Society for Propagating the Gospel. In 1814 the grant was 3,6001., and from that period to the present it had gradually increased until the grant now before the House amounted to 16,182/., and the whole sum paid during a period of 16 years was not less than 200,000/. for the propagation of Christian know ledge:in the colonies. Looking through the whole of those items it was not to be questioned that they were such as demanded a Committee of Inquiry.— Were they without precedents ? On the contrary, numerous precedents might be found for such a course. A Committee had been appointed on the Irish Estimates—why not on the English ? The case was as strong for the one as for the other. This he knew, that when the Committee did go into the Irish Estimates, jobs were discovered of which the Ministers themselves had not` the slightest notion. It had been suggested to him not to take the division on the general question of the appointment of a Committee; neither did he propose to divide the House affirmatively or negatively with respect to particular votes, but when each in succession came before the Committee he intended to move their postponement, with a view to the whole being re ferred to a Committee up stairs. The Hon. Mem ber for Westminster had called the present a good weak Government. But let it be good or ,let it be weak on this occasion, he did not care a farthing for the principle, so long as it came to the proposal he had made. Lord RANCLIFFE said a few words which were inaudible in the gallery. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said his Hon. Friend had gone so much into de tails, that he thought it would be better to answer his observations on each item, as it came before the Committee. Lord ALTHORP agreed with the Hon. Gentle man, that such items as were objectionable ought to be postponed for the purpose of being examined into by a Committee up stairs. Sir J. NEWPORT—The House had been re peatedly drawn into voting money, under the idea of doing things by degrees ; and the consequence had been that the extent of the work had turned out much greater than the House had any right to expect. Another strong ground of objection was, that money was frequently disbursed before any proposal whatever had been brought before Parlia ment. This had been very much the case with respect to the works of Canada, which had been carried on to an immense extent before Parliament heard any thing about them. Mr. O'CONNELL—It should be recollected, that while the taxes had been diminished this year, those of Ireland had been increased; and yet in that country distress was daily accumulating; and he did not believe that any one could now be found hardy enough to deny it, The 300,000/. to he voted for Canada was to be raised extra in Ireland alone this year.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. HUME contended that a Committee of Sup ply was not the place for entering into the facts of a case; one assertion was always met by another, and nothing further could be got at. They were now called upon to vote, tinder the first five heads, no less a sum than 1,626,000/. It had been said by the Noble Lord, that all the objectionable items ought to be reserved for a Select Committee;' in that case he should vote for all being reserved, for lie did not believe that there was one single item that was not objectionable. Last year the Miscella neous Estimates had amounted to two millions and a half, which before the French war would have covered half the expenses of the country, with the exception of the interest of the debt. The Civil Estimates appeared to him as extravagant as the Military, and he therefore thought that the whole ought to go to a Committee up stairs. In his opi nion the whole Estimates ought to be divivided into sixteen or twenty parts, for as many Committees, in order that the House might have the benefit of their inquiries. At present the whole ceremony was a perfect farce, and it was a mere mockery to say that money was conscientiously voted. On occasions when such enormous sums were voted, it was diffi cult to obtain as many County Members as were present that evening, to vote about a mere private Harbour Bill. As ere long they must have a new election—(Order, order !)-1-1e did not know what the Hon. Member meant by crying " Order," but as this was the fifth year of this Parliament, and six was its natural age, he did not see what there was out of order in what he said. He m ould say— come when an election might (which perhaps might please the Hon. Member better), he hoped that those who had to vote for county Members would remember how seldom their representatives had at tended when these weighty money matters were to be disposed of. For two years Ministers had ob tained the votes of that House on the pledge that the Finance Committee should examine into affairs; but, in spite of the existence of that Committee, they had never come under examination further than calling for returns, which were now on the table. Sir M. W. RIDLEY could not accede to the principle of the whole estimates being referred to a select Committee. Colonel DAVIES wished to ask the Hon. Mem ber one question. Would he point out any thing like a practical responsibility of the Ministers ? (Hear, hear.) They had seen their Ministry doing acts for which they deserved impeachment—the whole of their foreign and domestic policy was re gardless of the interests of the country; and then they came to that House, proposed whatever they pleased, and were sure to carry it. Let them only look at the Lieutenant-Geneialcy of the Ordnance. Twice had a Committee recommended the abolition of that office, and still was it kept up, though he bad no hesitation in pronouncing it a most gross job. The question was then put by the Speaker for his leaving the Chair, and it was carried without opposition. The House then went into a Committee. Mr.' G. DAWSON objected to the principle of referring estimates to Committees up stairs; It was the duty of Government to propose such estimates as were necessary on the responsibility of the whole House of Commons. If he had any doubt on the subject, his experience of Committees up stairs would confirm him; for he had never left a Com mittee-room without being convinced that the safest way was for Ministers to come down and propose to the House those measures which they thought necessary. With respect to the statements made by his Hon. Friend, they had been made with much confidence as to truth ; but when he came to refer to the documents, he found, that, in the very first item he had stated to the House, he was mistaken. —Since his Right Hon. Friend had been Chancellor of the Exchequer, not a single public work had been undertaken without the whole estimate of its expense being previously laid before him. The amount of the Miscellaneous estimates had been gradually decreased from 1824, and it was less for the present year than for 1829, by 310,000/. The Hon. Gentleman concluded by moving, that a sum not exceeding 32,.575/. be granted to his Majesty to defray the probable amount that would be required for repairs, &c. of public buildings, for furniture, &c. for the various public offices and departments, and for certain charges for lighting, watching, &c. to be defrayed by the Office of Works for 1830. Mr. GORDON repeated his former statements; only observing (as we understood the Hon. Gentle man), that he ought to have made his comparisons with 1828 instead of 1829. Mr. DAWSON stated that 12,000/. had been saved to the public last year in the furnishing of putilic buildings. HOBHOUSE wished to ask the Right f, - 1-V t is. Gent. opposite whether it was the intention o e/his Majesty's Gove rnment to gra nt the publi c 1 '2'646 St. James's-park by Waterloo-place? He k bad on a former occasion stated that, if they do not dOc so, he should feel it his duty to move an Address to the Crown. That w ou ld b e improper now. He perfectly agreed with his Hon. Friend the Member for Cricklade, that all public works ought to be subject to public inspection. It was absurd and un justifiable that Government should have the power of ordering and executing public works without con trout or supervision; and he perfectly agreed with his Hon. Friend the Member for Cricklade that the subject ought to be submitted to the consideration of a Select Committee. Seeing the Chief Commis sioner of his Majesty's Woods and Forests in the House, he wished to ask him if it were really deter mined that the public should not have the access to St. James's-park to which he had already alluded. Since he had last addressed the House on the sub ject, he had been looking at what the Noble Lord and others had said respecting him on former occa sion, and he had consulted other Hon. Gentlemen who were present on the occasion; and the result was a perfect conviction on his mind that his Ma jesty's Government did originally intend, and did promise, that the public should have the access in question. Bnt even supposing that such a promise had not been given, still the public hsd a right to the access required.--(Hear, hear.)—He was will ing to allow that the parks added dignity to the palace of the King ; but they also added a great source of enjoyment to the metropolis of the king dom over which he reigned. To him it ap peared extraordinary that even a hint of the public feeling on the subject had not been sufficient to produce the desired concession.— (Hear.)—Even supposing we had among us an in dividual of strange and capricious taste, who was con stantly pulling down square Palaces, and building round ones in 'their stead ; " Diruit, adyfcat, mutat quadrata rolundis ;" was such a person to be allowed, on such a point as this, to interfere with the legiti mate wishes of the people? The Parks of the me tropolis belonged to the people of the metropolis. By courtesy they were attached to the Crown ; but they belonged to the people who granted them—to the people who paid for them. Could any thing be more absurd than the way in which that part of the metropolis had been treated ? Many thousands of cartloads of rubbish had been deposited in order to make a hill, from which the trees in St. James's Park looked like gooseberry bushes. He would state one fact to the House to show the gross injus tice of the reports on the subject. It had been said that the gentlemen who had purchased houses on the terrace were all exerting themselves to prevent access to the Park. That was not true. He would not name the parties, but he had received letters from several of the individuals to whom he alluded, informing him that, so far from being averse to granting the public access to the Park, they were anxious that it should be granted. The fault, therefore, did not lie with them. It lay with some individual whose name ought to be known to the country ; and when ever the time should arrive when, without impro priety, he might move an Address to the Crown on the subject, he pledged himself to do so. The diffi culty that was experienced on the subject reminded him of what was said in former times, when the shutting of the gateway into the Park was agitated, namely, " that the shutting of that gateway would cost only three crowns." The thing was wished for by the people, and as it was wished for, it ought to he given. - Mr. GORDON contended, as before, that this vote ought to be referred to the consideration of a Select Committee before it was agreed to. Mr. HUME urged the expediency of postponing its further consideration. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER contended that the question ought to be aye or no upon the motion ; and no third proposition could be admitted. Sir J. NEWPORT was at a loss to know on what principle the wish to postpone the adoption of the resolution until further information was ob tained could be opposed. He for one was not pre pared to vote for the question, but he was prepared to vote for inquiry. Why not postpone this reso lution on 'the principle upon which the preamble of a Bill was frequently opposed ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER observed that the present case, and that of the pre amble of a Bill, were not at all similar. The pre amble of a Bill was postponed for the purpose of passing it after the clauses of the Bill had been dis cussed and agreed to ; but no other opportunity might be afforded for passing a resolution in the Committee of Supply, if it were once passed over, Adverting to the vote itself, as compared with that of 1829, he maintained that the arrangements which had been made by Government had been produc tive of a large saving of the public money, amount ing to above five thousand pounds. The alterations of the Parks had been made with a view to the benefit of the public; but he would defer his ob servations till the Hon. Member for Westminster brought the subject distinctly before the House. Mr. GORDON maintained, that as the public paid for the improvements, they were entitled to all the advantages. _ Mr. ARiiUTHNOT had attempted to obtain for the public all the benefits he could, but he had never promised to open the Park. Sir M. W. RIDLEY, as far as he was concerned, had no objection to the opening. Mr. HUME objected to the many private dwel lings allowed to public officers. Mr. PROTHEROE thought that some place ought to he provided for the public records. Lord MILTON thought that the Crown had no right to exclude the public from property that no longer was the source of its revenue. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER and Lord MILTON explained. Mr.HOB HOUSE said that the arches now blocked up were once open, and if he had a majority the public would find them again opened. The Committee then divided— For the vote 139 For postponing the vote 123 Majority 7,00/. was voted for defraying the expence of works at Portpatrick Harbour. 8,000/. was then voted for the works at Donagha dee Harbour. 20,0001. was voted for the works at Kingstown harbour. 100,0001. was then proposed to defray the ex penses of the alterations and improvements at Wind sor Castle. Mr. R. GORDON opposed the vote ; he com plained that the original estimate submitted to the House had been 300,0001. It was subsequently raised to 640,0001.; and in 1828, the Chancellor of Exchequer said, that in candour he was obliged to state that 50,000/. more would be wanted to com plete the works, making thus in all 900,0001. Still 8,000/. was voted last year ; and now it was pro posed, without any inquiry or investigation, to grant 9,000/., and this too without any pledge that the present demand would be the last—( Hear, hear) — or, that, in fact, three or four hundred thousand pounds more would not be wanted. Encouraged then by the division on the last question, he would now move that the sum of 100,000/. be granted to his Majesty for the purposes of defraying the expenses of the alterations and improvements of Windsor Castle.—( Hear, and continued laughter.) Mr. O'CONNELL here observed, that many Hon. Members who lied Irish constituents, voted for this last grant, and this at a moment when the Chancellor of the Exchequer had in contemplation to impose 300,0001. of additional taxes upon Ireland. He now called upon those gentlemen to oppose this vote, for if they did so successfully, there might be 100,0001. of taxation spared to Ireland.—(Hear, and laughter.)—lt might be very ridiculous, but he was most happy to say that the opposition to the Chancellor of the Exchequer's scheme of taxa tion was progressing in that country amongst persons of all parties and persuasions. —(Hear and laughter.) On this ground, if he had no other, he would vote against the grant. The circumstance, however, of the original estimate of 300,000/. having beets so greatly exceeded, afforded abundant reason for op posing such profligate expenditure. 1115 CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that the measure of repairing and improving the ancient seat of the Kings of England was, when first proposed, popular, not only in Parliament, but throughout the country. He stated that the causes which had led to the estimates being exceeded had been frequently detailed to the House; and he ob served that there was infinitely more difficulty in calculating the expences required for repairing an old building than in deciding upon those which might be necessary for the erection of a new. He could declare that many unexpected difficulties had arisen in the progress of the works ; and, in conclu sion, submitted to the House, that the only question to decide was, whether the building should be suf fered to remain unfinished, a disgrace to the coun try, or whether they would consent to the grant just proposed.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. BROUGHAM—I rise with unfeigned re luctance to express my opinions on this subject. For reasons to which I will not now more particularly allude, there is no time at which I would more will ingly find it possible, if it were consistent with my public duty, not to say one word upon the question. But I cannot do so, and I shall, therefore, briefly and simply as possible, state the reasons why I, for one, shall vote for the motion of my Hon. Friend. If I could think that the question now submitted to this Committee was what the Right Hon. Gentle man has once and again stated it to be, I would vote for him. If it were put to me, " Shall the present buildings at Windsor Castle, with all the improvements which have been undertaken and are in part executed on this ancient and magnificent structure —the residence of our Kings—be com pleted, or shall they stop short where they now are ?" I say, if the question put to me were merely this, I should not hesitate before I said that these buildings should not be completed. But I take that not to be the question. I take the ques tion to be, whether we shall vote 100,0001. in ad dition to the 800,0001. already voted, before we ascertain how that 800,0001. has already been be stowed—(Cheers)—before we ascertain whether the 100,0001. now required in addition to the 800,0001. shall be found sufficient to complete the structure ; nay, before even any one man has stood up in this !louse and stated that the 100,0001. now required will be sufficient to complete these works. Let any one tell me that this sum will be sufficient— that it will do to finish the buildings, and I may then be disposed to vote it, though in the present state of the country I might grudge the expenditure of such a sum. But I am called on to vote this money without the prospect,nay, without the hope, that this will be enough; and the next time that a Commit tee of Supply sits in this House, I may be told that the structure is still unfinished, and I may again be asked whether I will allow i t, for want of 100,000/. more, to remain unfinished.—(Hear, hear.)—l differ, Sir, from the Right lion. Gentleman, in the view he has taken of the feeling of this Howse and of this country on this subject. He has said that the measure was popular in this House and the country. Why ? Because this House and the country have held most justly, and I concur with them, that we ought to wish to see the Monarchy provided for with a dignity that is becoming, and even a splendour which is befitting and decent; and when 300,000/. were stated to be fit to be bestowed on the repairing the palace of our Kings, though the sum was considerable, there was no objection made to the vote. But did it at all follow that the House and the country should be satisfied to vote 900,0001.—n0t for farther repairs, but foe very different object—that this measure should still continue popular when it was no longer what it hath been, but was totally changed ? At this moment we are not told that 900,000/. will be enough, and, for aught I know, half a mil lion more may yet be demanded. This is the plain view of the matter as opposed to that taken by the Right Hon. Gentleman. I, for one, should be ready to agree that his 'Majesty should have that Palace repaired, or even extended, with which so many associations of the history of this country and of the for Mer times of the Monarchy are connected. It is a reasonable and natural wish ; but we do. not put the matter fairly, if we state that we are only called on to make these rotes for one Palace, for while nine hundred thousand pounds have been required for Windsor, we have voted 500,0001. and more—not for repairing a Palace of his Majesty, but for build ing a new Palace, on the site, not of an old Palace, but of a modern residence, which of itself was, in my opinion, sufficient for the purposes of a Court. Even that I should not be disposed to grudge the Monarch, if I could only see an end, but (and I for one disclaim all invidious observations, and at the present am more than ever anxious to avoid them) I must say that these expences we can soon begin ; but, even when one million and four hundred thousand pounds have been voted and dispended, even at this hour, I can see no end to them. I say, therefore, as a Member of this House, bound on the one hand, to act with a view to the just protection of the Monarch, and on the other to watch for the advantage and the interests of the people, that I feel it to be my imperious duty to vote against this grant, in the circumstances under which it is now proposed, Sir J. SEBRIGHT thought there was no limit to the extravagance that had been committed. He should be much surprised if the Hon. Member did not obtain a majority. Mr. R. GORDON said his object was not to refuse the vote, but to refer it, to a Committee of Inquiry, and as 10,0001. had been voted on the last vote on account, he thought it would be more de corous to come to the same vote now. Mr. BARBER was of opinion that some com petent person should give the House an estimate of the sum really wanted. After a few words from Sir M. W. RIDLEY, Mr. HOBIIOUSE believed that the case in fa vour of his Hon. Friend's amendment was made much stronger by the Hon. Member, one of the Commissioners for these works, who had just spoken. Like the Chancellor of the Exchequer, that Hon. Commissioner was quite unable to answer for the future demands that might be made on this subject—an inability which in itself was the strongest reason for the proposed inquiry.—(Hear, hear.) — The Right Hon. Gentleman opposite had spoken of the responsibility imposed on Ministers in affairs of this sort. Let him consent to this Committee, and they would be relived from it. The Right Hon. Gentleman was mistaken in supposing that the people of England were interested in these works, though it might possibly be true that they would have been interested in the works, if they had been merely confined to the reparation of the old Castle. He was convinced the public would not be satisfied if this vote were given without inquiry. Lord L SANDON was understood to support the grant. Sir THOMAS ACLAND should vote for the amendment ; but he thought it would be m ore worthy the House, and more satisfactory to his Hon. Friend, if the Government would do what it ought, if a more distinct explanation of the whole case was brought forward before this vote was pro posed. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER agreed with those Hon. Members who said, that there were circumstances at the present moment, which made this discussion peculiarly painful. For his own part, he felt a great anxiety that the House should have the means of judging of the whole ex pence, and he thought he should not be showing any undue deference to the opposition made to this vote, if he did consent to the appointment of a Committee, for the purpose of ascertaining what would be the ultimate expence of these works. — (Hear, hear.) —He did so with considerable pain— (Hear, hear) —but he had a firm conviction that, in the circumstances under which he was now placed, his doing so would prevent a painful dis cussion, and he was sure that it would be found that the recommendation which he made to the Committee was justified by the necessity in which they were placed of carrying on the works. At the same time he had no objection that the House should haVe every means of judging of the expendi ture. He had no objection under these circumstances to withdraw his motion, and to agree to the Com mittee for the purpose of seeing what would be the whole expence. Mr. GORDON thought the Right Hon. Gen tleman's object would be equally attained by ac ceding to his proposal. If the Right Hon. Gentle man withdrew his motion, he would be the person to form the Committee, and with all respect for him it would be acknowledged on that side of the House, that he was not happy in forming Corn mittees.—(Hear, and a laugh.)—Having said thus much, he should leave the matter in the hands of the Right Hon. Gentleman. Mr. BROUGHAM did not think the deference paid by the Right Hon. Gentleman to the opposi tion in this case was at all too great. He always wished to see great deference paid when the sense of ihe House was distinctly expressed, arid that sense was in unison with the opinion of the coun try. The Right Hon. Gentleman was now de sirous of laying information before the House. As he could as well have done that before as after this discussion, it must be taken for granted that he felt he could no more pass the vote at this moment than he could pass a vote of ten millions for the same purpose. After a few words from Mr. H. GURNEY, Mr. GORDON withdrew his amendment, on the Chan cellor of the Exchequer promising to move for a Committee. Mr. DAVISON next moved that 8,0001. be granted for the erection and repair of churches in the West Indies. Mr. HUME moved that the Chairman report progress, and ask leave to sit again. The proposition was assented to, and the report was brought up.—Et was ordered that the Com mittee of Supply should sit again on Wednesday. Sir J. SCARLETT moved the re-commitment of the Administration of Justice Bill, with a view merely that certain blanks should be filled up, and the Bill reprinted. It was re-committed accordingly, after a few words from Mr. Jones, Mr. Bright, Mr. J. Wood, and Mr. P. Thomson. The report was brought up, and it was ordered that the Bill, as amended, should be printed. Lord MORPETH postponed until the 18th inst. his motion for the Repeal of the Act inflicting banis:iment for the second offence in cases of libel. Mr. F. LEWIS moved the Order of the Day for the Committee on the Navy Pay Consolidation Laws' Bill. In answer to a question from Sir J. Graham, Mr. F. LEWIS said that he might be obliged to employ a person under him, as Paymaster of the Navy, not being able with his own hands to discharge all the duties of the situation; he, hovvever,should continue responsible. The Bill was then committed, and Mr. F. LEWIS explained, that it repealed or omitted in the consolidation of the laws relating to the pay of the Navy, about twenty capital punishments. The report was brought up, and ordered to be re ceived to-morrow. Mr. HUME moved for leave to bring in a Bill to prevent the necessity of renewing Commissions on the demise of his present Majesty, or any other King or Queen. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER suggested that motives of delicacy at present should induce the Honourable Gentleman to postpone his motion. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL supported this recommendation. Mr. O'CONNELL urged the necessity of such a Bill. Mr. WARBURTON strongly pressed the mo tion. The House divided, when there being but twenty four Members present, the House adjourned at Two o'clock. yItICKS OF STOCKS THIS DAY AT ONI O'CLOCX. B tri, stack 3 per Cent. Red. 91% % Old Annuities — 3 per cent. Cons. 92V 2 % New Ditto 92 1 4 3 per Cent — Ex. Bills, £1,006 2d. 7$ '79 pm. Ditto Red. 99 % Ditto lid. '76 79 pm. 4 per Cent. Ann. Dittl, IS2F ' • Ditto ..... ~,...... lid. 78 '79 pm. hank 1- Ann IS 15-16 19 Ditts Small 2B. 78 79 pro. Ditto 30 cars lB 13-16 Ditto lid. 78 19 pm. Ditto 30 years India Strick India for Account ...239S 40S Ditty , Banda B3 St pm. Cons. for May 25 FOREIGN EXCHANGES ON LONDON. HAMBURG, APRIL 30.-13. lt—Two months. 13. 1214. Cesarrriaxta, APRIL 21.—Three months, 6. 28 Letesic, APRIL 23.—Three months, 6. 20. FIE awl. APRIL 27.—Three months. 7.0 1 ,8. VIENNA, APRIL 24. —Three months, 10. 5. STOCKHOLM, APRIL 23.—Seventy-five days. 12 23. BREMEN, APRIL 27.—Two months, 618. 616. FRANKFORT, APRIL 26.—Two months, 153%. AUGSBURGH, APRIL 26.—One month, 20. 13. r,,iit t ~.1 ~t~.:J 1 L LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, MAY 4, 1830. HIS MAJESTY'S HEALTH. The following Bulletin was issued this morn- mg :- " Windsor Castle, May 4. " The KING Elept some hours last night, and his MA JESTY feels rather better this morning. (Signed) " HENRY HALFORD, " MA ['THEW JOHN TIERNEY." DEATH OF SIR ROBERT PEEL. It is with much regret we have this day to an nounce the death of Sir ROBERT PEEL. This melancholy event took place yesterday afternoon, at Drayton Park, Staffordshire. Sir ROBERT had a relapse on Sunday morning, when an ex press was immediately sent off to Mr. Secretary PEEL, and the Right Hon. Gentleman yester day left town for the seat of his father ; but we understand Sir ROBERT had expired before his arrival. The Paris Papers of Sunday contain no news. The Moniteur contradicts the assertion that General BOURMONT had demanded a reinforce ment of 20,000 men, in consequence of the re ported alliance between the Barbary States. The Hamburg Reporter, and other Papers have been received to the Ist of May, from which the following are extracts : FROM TIM TURKISH FRONTIERS, APRIL 10.-Since it has been known the Protocol of the London conferences on the affairs of Greece has been received at Constanti nople, a report has been generally spread that the Sultan has totally refused to accede to it. Though this excites no uneasiness with respect to Greece, since we may be con vinced that the three Allied Powers will not depart in any point from the plan on which they have agreed, the struggle for its independence cannot be considered as ended. Athens, Negropont, and Caristo, are still in the hands of the Turks, which they must be compelled to evacuate by force, if the Porte does not give its assent in the time prescribed. It seems indeed inconceivable what the Porte thinks to gain by its obstinacy, and we are tempted to agree in opinion with those who take this re fusal of the Porte to be a mere artifice to save itself from further demands. In fact, the Divan appears to enter tain some such apprehensions (groundless ones indeed) with respect to Candia. However, what is not done now m ay be expected at some future time. Concha , will always be a bone of contention between the new State and the Porte, and as happened with the Morea, the intervention of fo reign Powers (perhaps, indeed, after the lapse of many years) will put an end to the effusion of blood. Cant.siturts, APRIL 23.—The melancholy news of the death of the Grand Duke of Hesse, which could no t b e concealed from th e M argrav i ne A me li a F re d er i ca , his sister, has had such an effect on the health of that Princess that fears are entertained that she will not recover. She is not yet acquainted with the melancholy event of the death of her other brother, the Landgrave Christian. BERLIN, APRIL 28.—Her Royal Highness the Electress of Hesse Cassel, his Majesty's sister, has arrived here with her daughter, Princess Caroline. FROM THE WESER, APRIL 27.—Baron Von Sierscorpff, who, in the year 1828, was banished, together with his wife, from the Duchy of Brunswick, for having displeased the Duke, and who afterwards obtained from the Pro vincial Court at Brunswick a decision that there was no legal obstacle to his return to the Duchy, or to his resi dence in the country, which sentence however was an nulled and destroyed on the 9th January, this year, by the Counsellor of Justice, Frecke, in the presence of all the Members of the Tribunal at Wolfenbuttel, has now applied to the Diet at Frankfort, and has had his petition printed, together with an appendix of 14 documents. LUBECK, APRIL 27.—Flis Royal Highness the Crown Prince of Bavaria and suite arrived here the day before yesterday. His Royal Highness will remain here a few days to visit all that is remarkable in our city, and then go to Travemunde. HAMBURG, APRIL 30.—The third number of the first division of the Alteration of the Laws of the Kingdom of Hanover, for this year, contains the Treaty of Commerce and Navigation between Hanover and Mexico, which has bee■ drawn up on the model of that between Great Bri tain and Mexico. By a Special Agreement signed on the 20th of June, 1827, by Count Munster and M. Camacho, at London, it is re cognized that the Third Article of that Treaty can hare no effect, as Hanover has no colonies; in like manner the Fourteenth Article is declared not to be applicable to the subjects of this kingdom. The fifteen articles are also de elared to be as applicable to the relations between the sub jects of the Kingdom of Hanover and the United States of Mexico. DENMARK, APRIL 22.—1 t is said that the General Board of Management of the Forests, and also the Coun sel for the affairs of the churches and schools, will be suppressed. Another reform concerning the theatre is spoken of ; it is no longer to be a Court theatre, but will he wholly under the management of M. Kusler Aulu, Counsellor of Leipsic, who will receive from the Grand Duke 60,000 florins per annum, on consideration of his paying the salaries and other expenses except the orchestra, which will always be composed of the musicians of the Court. M. Kusler will choose all the persons employed in the theatre, and will net be bound to retain any except those who are engaged for life, and most of whom are artists of distinguished talents. SWITZERLAND, APRIL 20.--A Papal Brief, dated from the Vatican, the 23d March, has been received from Rome, with the final incorporation of the Cantons of Argovia and Thurgovia, with the Diocese of Basle. HAMBURG, APRIL 30.—Boast x HALLE, HALF-PAST FOUR O'CLOCK.-Although the supply of Wheat, this week, has again been considerable, the parcels received were readily sold. The best samples were chiefly taken for exportation to England and France, and purchases were also made by our own consumers. The inferior qualities of grain were also in some demand, and the arrivals from the Lower Elbe were, consequently, mostly disposed of.—Prices the same as last week. In Rye a trifling advance is to be noted, owing to the smallness of supply. Barley and Oats are of ready sale, without any alteration, however, in price. Number of lasts imported during the week :—Wheat, 1620 ; Rye, 50 ; Barley, 45 ; Oats, 122 ; Buckwheat, 2 ; Pease, 31 ; Beans, S ; Rapeseed, 11. Number of lasts exported during the week :—Wheat, 1504 ; Rye, 33 ; Barley, 23 ; Oats, 16 ; Malt, 3 ; Buck wheat, 2 ; Pease, 1 ; Tares, 1 ; Rapeseed, 18. From the 17th to the 24th of April, inclusive, 68 car goes of corn passed through the Sound ; of these, 40 were hound for British, six for Dutch, three for French, and 16 for Swedish and Norwegian ports; one was bound for Hamburg, and of two the destination was unknown. Weight. Rix dollars. Dantzic Wheat 1'24 to 126 to Pomeranian 124 to 128 112 to 118 Anhalt, white llB to 124 120 to 126 - red 122 to 129 120 to 129 Danish 120 to 129 BO to 86 Dantzic Rye llB to 122 GO to G 6 Upland 116 to 123 GO to 66 Danish 116 to 120 53 to 55 Itlagdeburgh Barley 9B to 101 5O to 58 Anhalt 9B to 104 56 to 58 Danish 94 to 102 4O to 4t Meeklenburgh Oats 66 to 74 4O to 42 Danish 66 to 75 26 to 30 Pomeranian Malt to Pease, yellow, Upland Holstein Rapeseed to 160 to 168 To-day's liquidation passed off quietly. Funds, which opened firm, became dull as the morning advanced. Austrian securities were freely offered, and their conse quent decline operated unfavourably upon others, with the exception of the Anglo-Russian, which remained in favour. Anglo-Spanish Bonds were done yesterday at 22 per cent., coupons included; but neither in these nor in Greek Bonds was anything to be done to-day.—Disc. 4 per cenr. End of ApriL Anglo-Danish Loan 3 per Cent 74 Anglo-Russian Loan 10 9 ,4 Hamburg-Russian Loan 104% Polish Bonds 132 Austrian Bank Shares 1377 Austrian Iletalliquso lO2 New Austrian 4 per Cents Anglo Neapolitan Falconets 9 "i Portuguese Exchange upon London, at two months l3 12% -- at sight Amsterdam, at two months, 35 53-100 Paris Petersburgh, at two months. 9 17-32ds. The Fourth Report of the evidence taken be• fore the East India Committee contains a col lection of very valuable calculations made by Mr. CRAWFURD relative to the tea trade. The substance of these calculations (which, being twenty-two in number, we can only briefly de scribe) is, that the prime cost of the Company's teas at Canton exceeds that of the Ameri cans by 373,086/. ;—that out of the 25,746,339 lbs. of tea exported by the Com pany in the season 1821-22, 4,544,4251b5. were green tea, being only 17 per cent., whilst of the 9,292,400 lbs. exported by the Americans, the green tea constituted 65 per cent,or 6,078,2651b5.; —that the prices of teas without duty in 1829 va ried at rates of which two kinds are sufficient to give a notion, viz.—Bohea was in London 13.8 d., in Halifax, N. S., ls. Bd., in New York 9d., and in Amsterdam 9d. per lb., and Hyson was in London 4s. 3d., in Halifax 4s. 7d., in New York 2s. 7d., and in Amsterdam 2s. 10d. per lb. ;—that the American export tea trade greatly exceds that of the Company, so much so as to have surpassed it in 1828 by 2,068,353 lbs., and to have placed the American exports, com pared to the imports, as one to 33-10, while those of Great Britain were as one to 122 ;—that for five years, of which 1822 is a fair average, the Company's sale price of Congou was 2s. 5d., and its bond price 3s. lb. per lb., being an advance of 26 per cent., and the sale price of Hyson was 4s. 3d., and the bond price 4s. 11d. per lb., being an advance of 15 per cent. ;—that whereas, of articles of Indian produce, during the last 15 years the sale price of saltpetre has fallen 73 per cent., of cotton 68 per cent., of pepper 80 per cent., and of sugar 40 per cent. ; that of tea has, during the same period, fallen only 30 per cent.; —that on a comparative statement of the quan tities of tea exported to all countries from Great Britain and from the United States, there is an excess with the United States of 1,371,334 lbs.; and that the re-exportations of tea from the United Kingdom for the six years ending with 1828, were only 2,369,703 out of 192,339,840 lbs., being per cent. instead of 50, 60, or 70 per cent., the usual proportion of other articles of Chinese and Indian produce. Mr. CRAWFURD has also furnished accounts illustrative of the degree in which the price of tea is affected by the King's duty, and has shewn that the duty on Congou amounts, in the United States, to 153, in France to 85, and in the Netherlands to 15 per cent. ad valorem; and on Hyson, in the United States, to 84, in - 1 France to 22, and in the Netherlands to six pe cent. ad valorem. That on an average of the six years ending with 1828, compared with the five years preceding, the consumption of coffee increased in Great Britain 60 per cent., i4 l the United States 56 per cent., and in France 16 per cent., the rate of duty ad valorem (taking Java coffee as an example,) being for the three countries respectively, 165 , 47, and 84 per cent. ;—that the consumption of tea by each individual of the population is in Great Britain 11b.. 7oz. Bdwts., and in the United States 9oz. 4dwts., and of coffee, in Britain 10oz. 14dwts., in France 9oz. 13dwts., and in the United States 21bs. loz. 1 ldwts. ; that the King's duty on coffee is now higher than, that of tea by 21 per cent. ;—that the average price of all teas in New York from 1820 to 1829 was 25., and the duty ls. sd. per lb., being 79 per cent. ad valorem ;—that for the ten years ending with 1829, the average of the excess of the Company's sale price of tea over that of the Americans was 1,711,9291, per annum ;—that for the year 1828-9, the excess of the Company's sale price over that of a similar quantity sold et Amsterdam was 1,285,3361. ;—that on a com parison of the consumption and revenue of tea in Great Britain and the United States for the 11 years ending with 1828, the consumption for the second period of four years increased in America 30, and in Britain 6 per cent., and the revenue for the same in the one 32, and in the other 16 per cent., and for the last three years of the period the American and British consump• tion increased respectively 6 per cent., the revenue in the one increasing 14, and in the other, decrees. ing 4 per cent. ;—that a debtor and creditor account of the Company's investments for tel for four years exhibits a balance in its favour of 2,641,2291. being an annual profit of 660,3071., deducting which from `777,5501. per annum due on the bond debt, and for dividends on stock► there appears an annual deficiency 0f117,2431. that the sale price of the privilege teas exceeds cow siderably those of the Company, and in one instance so much as 28 per cent. ;—that under a system of free trade, specific duties might be levied, which, without raising the price to the consumer, would augment the revenue 1,170,011/. per annum that whereas the amount of duties received 0 11 cloves, coffee, and sugar, from the East Indies for six years, increased respectively 9, 35, and 70 per cent., those on tea declined 7 per cent. and, lastly, that the King's duty on tea is much lower than that on coffee, which varies from 71 to 378 per cent., taken ad valorem, than that on cocoa, which is from 86 to 583 per cent.; on sugar, being from 60 to 233 per cent. ; on foreign spirits, being from 192 to 794 per cent. ; and on tobacco, which is so high as sometimes to reach 2,057 per cent. These facts are worthy of all observation, and are, in fact, of themselves sufficient to set at rest the misrepresentations concerning the China trade, which have been so industriously propagated. But in addition to them, we have to thank Mr. CRAWSURD for another admirable pamphlet, entitled, .‘ The Chinese Monopoly Examined," which is a complete answer to the various pub' lications with which the press has of late teemed in favour of the monopoly, and, in particular, to an article in the 83d number of the Quar terly Review, "On the Trade and Inter course with China," which we noticed some time since as richly deserving castigation. Mr. CRAWFURD has utterly demolished that unfortunate attempt to bolster up a system which no man of common sense, who is free from prejudice, can deny to be injurious to the people of this country, and has exposed the ab surdity of the arguments advanced to prove that it is good for the inhabitants of Britain to pay some two millions sterling per annum as a tax for the maintenance of a monopoly, which at the same time shuts out their manufactures and their shipping from a valuable market, in defiance of all decency and justice. Mr. CRAWFURD'S Pamphlet must be read attentively before its value can be appreciated ; as a specimen of its tenor we subjoin extracts : " The Company seems now disposed to surrender every thing but the monopoly of tea in the English market, although, down to the year 1821, and, notwithatanding the recommendation of the President of the Board of Controul, and of a Committee of each House of Parlia ment, they obstinately refused to make the slightest con cession to the free traders;—not even to admit them to occupy that ground which they themselves confessedly had neither occupied, nor desired to occupy, nor were capable of occupying —the supplying of the continent of Europe, and of our own colonies, with tea. Let us see, then, the value of what is now proposed to be conceded. In 1820► when the boon was asked by the free trader, of permission to convey teas to the continent of Europe, the markets of France avid the Netherlands were open to us: they are now obstructed by an enhanced duty upon teas imported in foreign bottoms, of four times the amount of what is imposed on the same commodity imported in national ves sels. The ports of the United States are shut against us, under similar circumstances : and although the protecting duty be smaller, still more closely, by the distinguished enterprise and activity of its own merchants; Russia pro hibits the importation of all teas seaways; Denmark has a monopoly company of its own. Canada then alone re' mains to us, with a share of the supply of Germany, Switzerland, and Italy in competition with French, Dutch, and Americans. It is not necessary to urge upon any reader of common observation, that the Chinese will only take British manufactures in proportion as we take the products of China in return ; and I shall now show, that through the injurious operation of the monopoly, we con sume of their staple produce, less than one-half of what we should in an open commerce, and this without suppos ing any additional outlay of capital. In 1828 the exports to China amounted only to 863,494/ , while the imports amounted to 4,296,668/. In every wholesome and natural branch of trade they ought of course to be nearly equal ; but here the one exceeds the other by 3,433,2441., a difference which, fur the most part, is tax and not trade. Among the imports, tea alone, in quantity 22,678,731 lbs. constituted 3,853,367/. of the whole value. This sum remitted to China in British merchandise, or their value, would, without reckoning charges or profits, purchase, even at the Company's extravagant invoice prices, instead of the amount now given, no less than 61,440,909 lbs. It may be said that such an amount would greatly exceed the possible consumption of the country; but in as open, unencumbered trade, such I am conti.ient, would not be found to be the case; and, indeed, if we divide the whole amount thus given, by the present estimated p(pulation of the United Kingdom, we shall soon discover, even its moderation. It gives for each individual scarcely 2 lbs. 10oz. a bead per annum, or less than two drams per diem, which is but one thirty-second part of the common allowance, now made in families to domestic servant., and far less, even than the allowance made to the sick in hos pitals and poor houses." 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