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This day was published, in 3 vole. post Bvo.. rHE REPE ALER S. By the COUNTESS of BLESSINGTON. " Some popular chief, More noisy than the rest, but cries halloo, And in a trice the bellowing herd come out; They never ask for what, or whom they fight; But turn 'em out, and show 'em but a foe ; try Liberty, and that's a cause for quarrel." DRYDEN'S SPANISH FRIAR. Richard Bentley, New Burlington-street. (Successor to Henry Colburo.) 614 11 Wednesday morning, about nine, when Ty Water, a porpoise, weighing 75111., was shot in the 41 4 'es, n,ar Battersea-bride, by Mr. BATTocK, of Bat 'a, where it is now exhibited. According to letters from Havre, there are 't h *. rat that port 30 whale's fitting out for fishing voyages. 14 14 branch of industry was scarcely known in France or four years ago. t 4I XPORTATION OF COALS.—By a return adiament, it appears that during the year ending the t ilts January, 1833, 10,161 tons were exported to Gib -1,,4r, 605 tons to Spain and the Balearic Islands, 4,039 1: 1 % to Italy and the Italian Hands, 3,422 tons to Malta, k, BO tons to the lonian Islands, 2,435 tons to the Q li ln ports in the Black Sea, 323 tons to Turkey and tiC ti nental Greece, 647 tons to the Alorea and Greek 7,260 tons to Egypt. Total, 30,072. t,b , 411 E REPEALERS, BY THE COUNTESS OF I, i ` 4 SINGToN.—" The design of this work is not to ir 4 !'e tile question of the maintenance or the repeal of the Itl i N s th e noble authoress assumes that ti.e compact , joined England and Ireland was made once and for Pt o . „; and that fraud or delusion must influence all who 1 14,,, , r ''e to disturb the arrangement. A-sutning these i ") she proposes to show by what artifices detna 11,n'b.1" have succeeded in making the cry for " Repeal" Pt;„' 4 , l4 r, and the circumstances in the choacter of the thj l et and the condit'an of the country, which render 4 4 6 " 11 peasants peculiarly liable to be the dupes of such The truth of the characters is the great requi- Lady BLEsSINGTON has drawn them from the "....eltActicaurn. (IN G. 1.) 1.430, \ • .4 ) COURT OF BANKRUPTCY, JUNE 27. MISCHIEVOUS EFFECTS OF ANONYMOUS LETTERS, A SOLVENT BANKRUPT. Thomas Arber, of the Horseferry-road, builder, this day surrendered to pass his last examination, when it appeared by the bankrupt's balance sheet that after liquidating all claims upon the bankrupt there would be an overplus in his favour of 6,319/. 14s. 4J. The bankrupt's property chiefly consisted of free hold and ►easehold property, and he was driven into the Gazette in consequence of some secret enemy writing anonymously to his creditors, reflecting on the state of his affairs A creditor asked the bankrupt how it was that it was stated in the Gazette that he had superseded his commission ? Mr. Archer said he could not account for it, ex cept that it probably emanated from the same person as occasioned his bankruptcy. Mr. Lane, of Frith -street, Soho, the solicitor to the bankrupt, said he wished to remove an erroneous opinion which had been formed. The bankrupt had never thought of superseding the commission, and begged to inform the gentleman who made the inquiry that the statement did not appear in the Gazette, but in a Register, and was not sanctioned by the bankrupt. This fact had been publicly stated to the Commissions-r at the last examination, and the Advertisement tended to injure the bankrupt, inasmuch as it prevented his creditors from coming forward. Mr. Commissioner FONBLANQUE said he remem bered it being mentioned, and he thought the mat ter ought to undergo a rigid inquiry ; the editor of such a publication ought to be more circumspev, as if there was a corrupt motive on the part of any person he would be open to an indictment. Mr. Lane expressed his determination to press the inquiry. The usual questions were then put to the bank rupt, and the assigness expressing themselves perfectly satisfied with his accounts, he passed his examination. Mr. Lane said there was some doubt in the pro fession whether a bankrupt's certificate could be signed the same day he passed his examination. Mr. Commissioner FoNIILANQUE replied that there could be no doubt on the subject, for on the face of the deed itself it was stated, " after the bankrupt had passed his final examination ; and so long as it was really " after," it might as well be on the same day as any other. The certificate was then produced, and immedi ately signed by the assignees and creditors present. INSOLVENT DEBTORS' COURT, JUNE 27. EXTRAORDINARY CASE.— Thomas Hodgkinson Bainbridge, late of Augustus-street, Regent's-park, stone agent, was opposed by Mr.WOODROYFE on the part of Mr. Wm. Denley, builder, of Pimlico. He was supported by Mr. COOKE. The case occupied the Court to a late hour (nine o'clock), and,from the singularity of the circumstances, excited much interest. From the voluminous evi dence it appeared that the parties had been on terms of intimacy for some years, and in the month of April last Mr. Denley deputed the insolvent to obtain from a lady, named Williams, residing in the neigh bourhood of Belgrave-square, the sum of 1401., which she owed him. The money was paid in the presence of the opposing creditor's brother, and on the evening of the same day, which was Saturday, the insolvent met Denley according to appointment at the Running Horse public-house in Piccadilly. At this time Denley was keeping out of the way on account of some pecuniary embarrassments. The insolvent offered to hand over the money to Denley, which consisted of two Bank of England bills for 501. cacti, and a note for 401. This Denley, who w is in a state of intoxication, refused to accept, and gt. , e the insolvent to keep fur him four sovereigns and a half, as also his watch. An appointment was made to meet on the Monday following, and a supper was ordered. The insolvent attended on that even ing with the money and a friend, but Denley did not make his appearance. On the following morn ing, Tuesday, the 29,h of April, the insolvent af firmed that, while in bed recovering from the ef fects of the previous night's debauch, his wife said a man had brought a note from Denley for his money ; she read the letter, which was in the fol lowing words :—" Friend Bainbridge—l am sorry I could not meet you last night according to the ar rangement. I understand the officers are after me, and if they put me in prison I am ruined for ever. I do not wish any one •to know where I am. Be so good as go to the Bank and get the notes cashed for gold, which will be the best, and give it to the bearer, who is a very nice man and a man that I can trust." The note was signed as by " W. Denley," and turned out to be a forgery. The tale told by the insolvent was that he did not look at it, but dressed, and handed the money to the bearer, whom lie described us a rough looking sailor. The sailor said he must have gold, and he accompanied him to the bank; he got gold, and deposited it in a glove, and gave it to the sailor, as also the watch. He went with the sailor to London bridge, who told him that Denley wa- then at Limehouse, and teas going to Portsmouth by the steamer. On the following morning Denley called on him for the money. He told him he had sent it as he directed, which he denied, and the insolvent for the first time looked at the note brought by the sailor, and discovered it to be a forgery. Mr. Denley refused to give credence to his story, and applied to a magistrate for a warrant against the insolvent, which was refused. The insolvent was shortly af terwards arrested by Mr. Denley, and now per sisted in his story. It further appeared that on a former occasion the insolvent and a p rsou named Ackron had obtained from De ley, when drunk, no less than foul teen blank acceptances, which had since been filled up, and lately four had been pre sented to Denley for payment. Mr. WOODROFFE charged the insolvent with as audacious and impudent a robbery as was ever cum miyed, and prayed a lengthened remand. Mr. CooKE having replied, Mr. Commissioner LAW said he was inclined to decide against the insolvent. His story was incre dible, and he confessed himself at a loss to believe any portion of the tale. He would, however, give the insolvent the liberty of producing the person, Ackron, who was mixed up in the business. The case was adjourned sine die. COURT OF COMMON PLEAS, JUNE 27. MAYHEW V. NELSON. This was an action brought by the plaintiff to recover the value of fourteen dozen of felt hats, sent by the de fendant's coach, the Monarch, to Bristol. The claim was resisted upon the grounds that the hats described as telt or woollen hats were made of rabbits' fur, and therefore the plaintiff had a right to have paid an extra amount of carriage in the shape of insurance ; and further that the demand of the plaintiff was an unreason able one. This defence was met by the evidence of several in the trade, who proved that rabbits' fur is always considered as wool, and the price demanded for the bats was a fair one.—Verdict for the plaintiff. GRANT V. GILBERT. This was an action to recover the amount of a promis sory note tor 101. The defendant bein:; a married woman pleaded her goverture. To sustain which her husband was called, who proved his marriage with her ; but, for reisons he did not wish to state, they did not live together.—Verdict for the defendant. LON!)ON, FR !1)A N(G, Jil7% , :E 9 8, 1833. MIDDLESEX SESSIONS, JUNE 27. Mr. John Phillips, and his sisters, Miss Margaret Ind Miss Mary Ann, were indicted for assaulting Mrs. Jane Drummond Grindall. It will be remembered that about four years ago an old gentleman of immense wealth was, with the present pro secutrix, hurried away, and placed in a private madhouse. From some circumstances which accidentally transpired the nefarious transaction was discovered, and an habeas having been obtained, such evidence was adduced as to lead to a charge of conspiracy, which was tried in the King's Bench, and the parties concerned convicted, The old gentleman, after his release from the madhouse, re fused all communication with his relatives, and at his death left the whole of his property ,a comparativ e ,tranger. Great efforts were made by the nephews and nieces to upset ►he will ; but after proceedings in Chancery, in the King's Bench, and in the Ecclesiastical Courts, the will was finally established. It was some part which Mr. Phillips either had, or was fancied by Mrs. Grindall to have had, in these proceedings that gave rise to the pre sent indictment. Mrs. Grindall had been engaged in extensive I'w pro ceedings, and having heard that Mr. Phillips Lad in his possession papers of importance to her interest, she called to demand them. She was shown into a front room on the first floor, and after waiting some time Mr. Phillip s and Miss Mary Ann came in. Mr. Phillips said, " You are Mrs. Charles Grindall," and then att 'eked her and struck her on the chest and breast. Miss Mary assisted her . brother. Moss, who is a policeman, came, and witness was given in charge and taken to the station-house. As she was going down stairs Miss Margaret struck and broke the gold pin to which her gold watch wis attached. The Jury found Mr. Phillips Guilty, but the two Misses Phillips Not Guilty. The sentence of the Court was that he pay a fine of 405., and enter into sureties to keep the peace. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, JUNE 27. The Earl of RIPON moved that a message be sent to the House of Commons acquainting them that a confe rence would be held in the Painted Chamber at half-past five o'clock to-morrow, upon the subject of the West India resolution.—Agreed to. The Earl of SEFTON presented a petition from the Catholics of Liverpool, against the marriage laws. Lord SUFFIELD presented a petition from the me dical practitioners of Liverpool, against the proposed alterations in the Apothecaries Act. Oa the motion of the LORD CHANCELLOR, the House went into Committee upon the Limitation of Ac tions Bill. The Bill went through the Committee, and was ordered to be reported. The Freehold and Copyhold Estates Bill also went through the Committee, and was ordered to be reported on Monday next. The House then adjourned. invite them to go back to the most remote period ; but sure he was, that although they went back even to the Saxon era, they would not find any institution re sembling those Unions arrogating to themselves the power, authority, and privilege of overawing or en deavouring to overawe the legislative and execu tive, by endeavouring to enroll and place under their command large bodies of the people, and establishing a confederacy which might overturn all existing institutions, sold which were wholly incompatible with any Government, law, or constitution whatever.—(Hear, hear, hear.) There was nothing in the constitutional history of the country which bore any resemblance or affinity to the Political Unions; and if it were true that nothine of the kind was discoverable in the constitutional history of the country, it remained for those who were prepared to defend such institutions to show that they were in harmony with ti-e spirit of the constitution ; and that they might at any time be instituted without any violation or breach of the constitution. Now they could not have an implied existence, because all ttn it spirit and operations were contrary to the constitution. He would, however, admit that there was a period when societies similar to those had an ephemeral existence—he meant at the era of the French Revolution—societies whose roots bad been watered with tears and with the blood of millions. He conceived that those institutions, which were exten sive, and attempted to be established throughout the coun try, were anti-monarchical, were in violation of the privi leges of Parliament, and the prerogatives of the Crown. No one, let his ingenuity be what it might, could successfully defend those unions on the gri.und of constitutionality. He had no hesitation in laying down this proposition, that all political power which was not established by law, was an unconstitutional power. Let the nature of the power be what it might, there existed that which showed it to be unconstitutional. There was a great difference bt-tween natural rights and political power. All persons were re cognised by the law of the land, but no indi vidual could claim political power—it could only he obtained by constitutional grant. He (Mr. F.) could show in an instant, arid from an authorized document (he alluded to the resolutions of the Birmingham Union, and particularly to that which was contained in the 19th page of the document he held in his hand), that the unions assumed to themselves great political power. Having read a part of it, the Honourable Member went on to say that it there appeared that a self-constituted committee had framed a system, and arrogated to themselves great political power ; and without entering at all into the nature of that power, he was quite prepared to argue that that alone was illegal and unconstitutional. He was ready to argue that no body of men, however good their intentions—however much they might have an eye to the public good, bad a right to frame a system of laws by which they might acquire great political power. Their notions of power were derived from the doctrine of passive obedience. In that Council was centred ab solute power, and to this Council the members paid a military obedience.—(Hear.) What was the direct aim and end of their self-constituted power, might be derived from their fourth article which states it to be to watch the proceedings of the Legislature, and to peti tion, address, or remonstrate with the Crown when the rights of the people were infringed upon.---(Cheers). It was true they set out by saying their first duty was to prove themselves good, faithful, and loyal subjects of the King. —(Cheers and laughter.) It was said that man was the only laughing an i ma l, b u t h e ver il y b e li eve d t h a t if a ny irrational or savage creature could be brought to laugh, it would he by perusal of these Political Union regulations. He could not understand the logical deductions of the framer of these rules, whoever he might be, that could deduce such acts as those warranted by the Political Union regulations, from the text of order, faith, and loyalty. It was a recurrence to the system by which jacobinisna had been promulgated in France; which was, by the promulgation of clubs throughout the country, and sending delegates to form a National Convention, to su persede the legislative and executive government. Their supposed good order and loyalty to the King was a mere colouring to shelter them from the operation of the law. This was the case with those who had promoted the French Revolution.—(Laughter.) The tights of man were founded on the assumption that the foundation of political society was essentially popular—( Hear, hear) — and these Political Unions declared that all persons were eligible to become Members, by which they inculcated anew the doctrine of political equality.—(Hear, hear.) It had been said that these unions could not be more illegal than the Carbon-street and other conservative societies. Now fur his part he could see no more likeness between the Carlton Club and the Political Unions, than there uas between a man and a monkey.—(Laughter, and cries of " Hear.") These unions stated that, however de sirous both Houses of Parliament might be to promote the ippiness of the community, their Members had not the means of knowing their wants, bred up in the lap of luxury, and surrounded by parasites—the Members of the Legislature had no means of knowing the extent to whica distress existed in the country, and then they proceeded to say that they would watch narrowly the proceedings of the Legislature, in order to preserve the country from danger. He would ask, was it to the self-constituted committee that the Legislature was to look for light and reason ? Was there among these men that impartiality of judgment that would !eat) the House to give up its judgment to theirs ?—(Hear, hear, bear.) Was there that talent among them that would induce the Legislature to put itself under their tutelage ?—(Hear. ) Were its Members known as public men, or were they persons in whom the country could place implicit confidence ?—(Hear, hear, hear.) Or were they per sons who sought to engender a spirit of dissatisfaction in die country, placing the poor in open hostility with the rich, or did they put forth such arguments as would induce persons to suppose that through them, and them alone, natiimal regeneration wisto he effected ? He would leave the House to answer these questions for themselves. What was the interpretation to be given to the whole of Unit. proceedings ? He would leave tile House to say whether it was not that the Ministry ba formed out of themselves. Without prophesy, he could point out what such a Minis try would be, the appointments to which would please the council of the Birmingham Political Union. It was of course easy to say who would be Prime Minister—(Name.) Why, he would say the Hon. Member for Birmingham, Mr. Attwood.—(Great laughter, and many Hon. Mem bers took off their hats to the Hon. Gentleman.) Then it would be doing the Hon. Member for Dublin an injustice, unless he got the seals. He was told that the laws would not permit such an appointment, but then it ought to be borne in mind that the Political Unions were set up fur the express purpose of setting all law aside. Then there were two gentlemen at Birmingham of high legal attainments, who, he had no doubt, would do very well for Attorney and Solicitor-General. He would name Mr. Parkes and Mr. Edmonds.—(Hear, hear.) Then for the situation of Heine Secretary, which required sound judgment, good temper, and great discrimination, he would nacre Me. Larkins—(A laugh) _while for the office of Secretary for It eland, he thought the appointment of Mr. Steele would be most congenial to the Political Unions.—(Loud cries of " Hear, hear, and laughter.") That might all appear very extravagant to the House, hat if Hon. Members would take the trouble of reading the speeches delivered at the Unions, they world find that if those bodies hail their way, his Majesty would have no other choice. For argument's seke, he would- admit that those composing tile councils of Political Unions were very great Statesmen, and the greatest of patriots; but their whole power was based on popular enthusiasm, and would lead to universal suffrage ; and a Government formed from such materials would not stand an hour. Universal suffrage, he believed, would lead to universal confusion. 'nose bodies, the Political Unions, were formed on the same basis, as the Jacobin Ciubs in the time of the French revolution. The language used now was much the same as was heard then; they had the same allusions to the fate of Charles the First ; the same allusions about the beheading o the French Queen, and the uselessness of the House of Lords. He would read a few extracts—(No, no; Hear, hear)_ he meant to show that they were illegal and unconstitu tional. The extracts were from speeches delivered at Newcastle, and published under the sanction of the council of the union; they were therefore now not the speeches of the individuals, having been adopt -d by the Union. The Hon. Member then read an extract, which laid down the principle, that when existing law fails in producing justice, the people must have recourse to the law of nature, and made reference to the fate of the ancienne Noblesse of Fiance at the Revolution. It also declared that a representative Government, having demo cracy for its basis, was the only one which could insure peace and prosperity to the nation ; and that the people, with a voice of thunder, must demand annual Parliaments, (1 3 1-trcE 7D.) universal suffrage, and the vote by ballot. This thunder ing demand, the Hon. Member thought was not quite consistent with the spirit of our laws.—(" Quite," front Mr. O'Connell.) The Hon. Member then read another extract, having reference to the flourishing state of Ame rica, as resulting from the good effects of a republican form of Government. The Hon. Member made a similar comment upon this resolution, and then proceeded to con tend that there was an extremely conservative spirit pre valent throughout the country—(oh, oh ! and a general laugh)—lie meant a spirit of determination to uphold the laws. As to revolutions, in point of fact, revolutionary spirit was at a discount.—(ol), oh !) There had been a great deal of revolutionary experimental:zing latterly in various places, in most of which it had completely tailed ; and even where successful, the success had been any thing but a success calculated to please the Jacobi nical feelings of the political unionists. The French Re volution had merely effected a change of dynasty from one part of a family to another, and had added most conside rably to the standing army and to their debt. The Revo lution of Belgium was essentially a conservative revolution. —(oh, oh.) Yes ; for private property and national faith had been respected. It was not a revolution which consigned two or three hundred thousand unhappy beings to gaols, and thence to scaffolds ; nor was it n revolution which created twenty thousand sovereigns instead of one, on the " sovereignty of the people" principle. Nor was such a state of things as this; however ardently sighed for by the supreme council of the political union, at all desired by the great majority of the people. No, the condemnation of political unions, which he anticipated from the great majority of that House—(No, no)—well, whether there was a majority there or no, the overwhelm ing tnajority of the people—(oh, oh) —would raise their indignant voice against these Unions.—(Oh, ob.) They were for English liberty, not French anarchy.—(oll.) The Hon. Member then observed that Ile did not bring this question forward out of party feeling ; he would not wish his motion to be understood as at all a retrospective one. Let by-pones be by gones ; hut what he desired was, a prospective declaration from the House, so that if, at any time, Government should find it necessary to bring for ward any measure to bear upon these unions, they might be sure of the assistance of the House. Even supposing that these political unions were not formi dable as a political body, they ought to be put down as local nuisances, for, at present, it was necessary for everybody in their neighbourhood to be of their mind, or woe be to them. At several elections, oc curring where, or near where, those Uniens were, they always marched i❑ bodies to the place; and not only did any gentleman, who appeared to be opposed to them, run the greatest risks, but all his friends became marked men, and were constantly in fear of the consequences of their in dependence. Indeed, several gentlemen, who had com municated very serious complaints to him on the sutiject, had earnestly requested him not to mention their names, lest they too should become " marked men." It was, therefore, incumbent upon the Parliament to take some steps in this matter, at any rate, for the protection of in dividuals. The non-suppression of these bodies, too, would inevitably give rise to faction ; for it Ministers refused to interfere, rival confederacies must be formed for self-de fence.—(Hear, hear.) He was no friend to the Conser vative, any more than to the Jacobinical Unions, consider ing that the only Political Union should be the British Parliament—(Hear)—and if the latter bodies were sup pressed, he would lend every assistance to suppress the others; but he repeated, if no steps were taken for the protection of the description of individuals he had just mentioned, they must form into societies as a matter of self defence. It was said that this mention of the Political Unions was unnecessary and injudicious ; that they were fast dwindling away, and would soon expire of themselves, and that therefore any notice of them merely had the effect of giving them a certain degree of consequence. It was very true that they were dwindling away, but still the circumstances of the times were such, that not the least dust should be allowed to remain in which the spark of revolution might be kept smouldering.—(Hear, hear, hear.) iThe most appalling disturbances, pre dial and civic, had been the result of these Political Unions, and, he repeated, although they might not be, and were not, so formidable by any means as they were two years ago, yet, at tt e same time, they were not so insignificant as to render it a matter of no consequence that this House should, indirectly, sanction their exist ence. Besides, the resolutions he had to propose were very innocent and harailess—(oh, oh, and a general laugh)—and he could not conceive that the House would refuse to agree to them. The House had inadvertently given, as it were, a prescriptive legality to these Unions ; and it was therefore due to themselves that they should pass a resolution, declaring that such bodies as these did not exist with Parliamentary sanction. This was not a time to dolly with fire. Things were in such a state all over the world as rendered it imperative on us to preserve the utmost possible internal power. If we once allowed of internal convulsion, total ruin would be the speedy and inevitable result. He considered that the institutions of the cede:try were not only necessary fur the safety and happiness of the one hundred millions of his Majesty's subjects, but these institutions concerned the liberties and happiness of all Europe. Those, therefore, who under any pretence sought a purpose inimical to the British Constitution, were not only the enemies to the liberties of their own country, but they were the enemies of the whole human race. The Hon. Gentleman con cluded by moving a resolution, to the effect :—" Resolved, That certain voluntary associations, bearing the name of Political Unions, are subversive of the authority of the Crown, and are unconstitutional and illegal; and that his Majesty's Ministers would be fully justified in enforc ing the law against them, so as to suppress all Political Unions, which are subversive of the authority of the Crown, which are unconstitutional and illegal." Mr. PLUMPTRE seconded the motion, which he did with the greater pleasure, inasmuch as it had been said in another place only a few days ago, that political unions were inconsistent with any plan of good government. It was also said the law was sufficient to put them down, and if it were not, he would be willing to strengthen it, for he believed there would be no disinclination to put the law i❑ force. The people had no right to form such unions as the means of obtaining redress, for they had the right of petitioning.—(A laugh.) The King, Lords, and Commons formed, he might say, a political union ; and with their power these other unions were inconsistent. He must tell his Hon. Friend the Member fur Stamford, that his resolution went to give Conservative clubs a severe blow, as well as political unions ; and certainty, if those clubs were to oppose all reform, and were to lit themselves up against the spirit of the age, he certainly should not ite sorry to deal a very heavy blow at them. M. COBBETT and Lord ALTHORP rose together, but the House called for the latter. Lord ALTHORP said, that the Hon. Gentleman who brought forward this motion assume I, throughout his speech, that the political unions were illegal assemblies ; but, from all the information which he had been able to procure on the subject, he did not think that they could, in their present form, be said to be illegal.—(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Gentleman had, in proof of his assumption, quoted the proclamation issued by his Majesty two years ago ; but he entirely overlooked the particular circum stances which then existed. The proclamation Will issued against those political unions which assumed a right to organize their members upon a military principle, and even avowed their purpose of taking up arms. That certain y was a most illegal proceeding upon the part of those bodies. and against that the proclamation was dir cted. That was not the case at present. The appearance of the pro claination had warned the Political Unions, as it was intended, to take care, and the illegal course had been abandoned. The Hon. Gentleman w shed him to say whether he thought the prevalence of Political and the spreading of those bodies growing into great power, was not detrimental to the constitution, and cer tainly he was ready to say that the prevalence of such Unions was not devoid of danger to the Constitution. But the Hon. Gentleman said, and in th tt he cordially con curred, that the general feelings of the people of this coun try were conservative—that the feelings of the great ma jority of the people were in favour of supporting our pre. sent institutions—of preserving them, but, in preserving, to improve them—(Cheers)—and, by continual improve ments, to make them even more worthy of being preserved. —(Corers.) That was, he admitted, the general, he might say almost the universal, feeling of the people. lo every large and mixed society like ours there would be, and no doubt weee, persons who took a different view from this, but they were in this country very few. Be fore the House adopted the resolution proposed by the lion. Gentleman, it ought to be satisfied that there war great danger of these revolutionary views spreading—a greater danger than at present any man supposed to exist. ear, tear.) tie enneelveri the ham. Gtentlemany reZOTutiou uncalled for—(Hear, hear)—and he certainl's could not agree to it, particularly the first part, which was incorrect. The resolution stated that thee Unions evere and he did not believe that they were. With , e.pect to the other part of it, he did not see the advan tage of the House giving any opinion on the subject. It w.as to him a great satisfaction to think that the feelings of the country were in a state of great excitement at the time the Political Unions arose and were extended ; they had been preserved and extended since by a continued and even increased excitement; but he was happy to eoncur with the Honourable Gentleman in believing, that, in the present state of the country, their power was diminishing from want of excitement. For him self, he was not speaking out of any partiality to Po litic d Unions ; for of all the persons who entertained political opinions, there was no political party more hostile to the present Government than the Political Unions. He, therefore, did not come forward out of any partiality to those unions ; and what he said could not be charged to that motive. The Hon. Gentleman said that Political Unions had interfered at elections, and had pre vented those from being elected who ought to have been elected. Certainly he must admit that Political Unions had interfered with elections, and, he might say, had en . I e a vo ured to prevent the proper persons from being elected ; but their exertions bad not always been directed against the gentlemen opposite or in favour of those who supported the Government.—(Cheers.) He had seen seine of the gentlemen opposite glad of the assistance of Politi cal Unions on a late occasion. The Hon. Gentleman had stated that these Unions had drawn up a programme of an Administration, and they had stated the names of those gentlemen who were to hold offices in the State. The Hon. Gentleman said, it was one of their great and peculiar objects to get their own party into power; but he believed that no political party ever existed, which did not wish to have an Administration formed of those per sons who held their own opinion.—(Cheers.) Upon the whole, he thought the question was hardly one to speak seriously about; but he felt it to he his duty to give the motion a direct negative.--( Hear, hear.) Mr. COBBETT rose to say a few words, as he might, perhaps, be suspected of having organized these unions. He wished that the Hon. Gentleman had made out some harm or some mischief these unions had done. He should like to know what they had done to make them so distin guished. Since they had been established, there bad been a great many riots in the couutry, but in no one instance had the political unions taken part in those riots.—(No, no!—Hear, hear.) At Bristol, in particular, the political unions hail laboured, and laboured continually and success-, fully, and had prevented the riots going further. What, then, had the political unions done? There were great difficulties and great embarrassments is the gauntry ; there were various things which they all wished to make better; and there was a great deal to deplore; but would any Hon. Gentleman say that the political unions had produced them ? While the Hon. Gentleman had been speaking he had set down a few of the causes of these things, and if the political unions had produced them, the Hon. Gentleman should have gone a great deal further. If the political unions had caused the Bank stoppage of 1797—if they had caused the 22 years' war carried on against France to put down liberty—if they had caused the American war, which added 72 millions to our debt, and which ended, as few wars did, in our disgrace— if they had passed the famous Bill of 1819, which doubled all the taxes—and if they had, by partially repeal ing it, caused the panic of 1825, 1826—if they had made it necessary, after 18 years' peace, to keep up a f wee of 100,000 men—if they had given 600,0001. among 113 Privy Councillors, and Pensioners, and servants of the State—if they had given a multitude of pensions and sinecures to idlers, starving the industrious people—if they had given Mr. Burke a pension, which had been enjoyed for 33 years, and long after his death, till it amounted to 90 millions—(Great laughter, and some one behind Mr. Cobbett warned him of his mistake)—he meant 90,000/. —if (and he quoted it only as a specimen) the P.l tical Unions- bad given a man a pension for 21 years for being Charge d'Affaires at Florence for five months—if they had given a man a pension of 2301. per annum for fire months' service, while that gentleman was also a parson, arid held two livings—he would not take the pert of the Political Unions.—(Hear, hear.) If the Political Unions had made the debt 800,000,000/.—if Political Unions had done all or one of these things, he should say, put thetn clown—let them be trampled to the earth under the feet of the people, and let the name of Political Unions be ac cursed for ever.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. itIETHUEN had seen something of political unions in his own county, and could say that he had never on any occasion witnessed them engaged in as act of riot, or ever knew them guilty of an incivility. If political unions were to be put down, they must also put down Conserve tive clubs, for they were also an obstacle to the execution of the law—(No, ne)—and wished, he believed, to take the Government of the country into their own hands. If the political unions offended, the law was strong enough, he believed, to put them dowu. Mr. O'CONNELL would not have trespassed on the House, had he not been personally alluded to by the Hon. Gentleman who brought forward the motion, and to whom he felt grateful for the office he had bestowed on him. As the Hon. Gentleman had called on him, he would state his opinion. He believed that these associe sions were legal, and the motion of the Hon. Gentleman was the most unjust and silliest motion he ever heard of. It first declared these meetings illegal, and then it said that the Ministers would not be to blame if they punished what the Hon. Gentleman called illegal unions. That was something new, to call on the House of Commons to resolve that the Minister, would not be to blame for executing the law. But the resolution was unjust, for it prescribed what was illegal. It declared that some per sons, who bad not been tried, who had not even been committed, were guilty of an illegal act. If the Honourable Gentleman got his resolution to-night, he alight to-morrow post off to Birmingham and hand the resolution of the House of Commons to the megis- Crates, declaring the union there illegal.—(Hear, hear.) Would it be right in the House of Commons to pass a resolution to-night that the men who were to be tried at the Old Bailey to-morrow or next week, had behaved illegally ? That would not be decent in Parliament, and might bring the House into some danger. They had heard something of a coalition between the Conservatives and the political unions not tar from Stafford, and some comparison had been made between a monkey and a beer. He too had heard of showmen. One went about with an elephant and a calf, and when lie was asked which was the elephant and which was the calf, he replied, " Which your Honour pleases."—(Laughter.) The Hon. Gentle man had been taking lessons from these showmen. They travelled sometimes, and the Hon. Gentleman had met with one of them who had been abroad, as he told the Hon. Gentleman that there were two principles struggling f a- mastery on the Continent—despotism and superstition. It was a pity he did not also tell the Hon. Gentleman that these were not the only principles struggling for power on the Continent—that there was also cant and hypo crisy—(Hear)—Religious cant and political hypocrisy.-- t Hear, hear.) He could tell the Hon. Gentleman that these were rife on the Continent, and that they forced themselves into high stations and high offices for uo other reason but because they stuffed themselves out into im portance. Being in office, they made a great parade of their piety, and busied themselves meddling in every other man's affairs. They allowed no difference of opinion to pass, but condemned one man as an Atheist, and another as an Anarchist. They dealt in foul names and much abuse. We had none of these in England. There was no cant, no hypocrisy here. The Hon. Gentleman had never heard of them before. But if they were inverted here, what could they do? They would be tor e to over look the beam in their own eye—to point out the mote iu the eye of another.—(Hear, hear.) The Charles-street Society, the Conservative Club, the Orange Lodge, were iverlooked, and the Hon. Gentleman pounced down on he lowly political unions—those unions which had turned tint of that House, and kept them out—the nominees of the oligarchy. He considered it fortunate for the country, -het it y, t possessed political unions, for they were ready again to support the Government, should that other collo io comen wnul nbny, further allude, freedom thanwasthreatened, ands threatened to nhich by a Conservative club in another place, which sought to bange the councils of the country. The political unions tosay is n :„n might be more necessary than ever if that collision should came, and they would again protect, as they had before arotected, the liberty of the country, end would preserve tee principles of our free Constitution.—(Cheers.) Mr. HALCOMB contended, amidst calls of " Quese ;ion," that these unions were illegal. Mr. WALTER said he was neither a friend nor an enemy to political unions ; for he was certain that their nerit or demerit must entirely depend upon the nature of the object which men unite for the purpose of obt onieg. That object being beneficial, then he was thoroughly con. vinced that the best method of obtaining it was by unions ; ~ a utec,, : es of unanimity and concord would apply ; for in end all the maxims which they bed ever heard of the d,l - and detached efforts c,euld do but little. A mem, however, which the present motion induced Imo :ow to bring under the Dolce of the House, was not of oat laud able character, but was a political unien of a emit mischievous nature and tendency. In the email which he had the honour of repre-entieg, a political union had been formed, for an object which he had no hesitation HOUSE OF COMMONS, JUNE 27. The House resumed at a quarter past five o'clock. Lord Althorp was on the Treasury Bench. His Lordship looked very unwell, and seemed to walk with some difficulty. PATENT FOR INVENTIONS. Mr. GODSON brought up the report of the Cotnit tee on the Letters Patent Bill. The Committee had sent down a Bill to secure the property in inventions to the inventors, but they recommended that another Bill be brought in for regulating the mode of obtaining patents, and the expense thereof, be proceeded with in the next session. MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS. A message from the Lords requested, on the part of their Lordships, a conference with this House to-morrow at five o'clock in the Painted Chamber, upon a subject of an interesting and important nature. On the motion of Lord ALTHORP, the Messengers were informed that the House agreed to the conference. Mr. SLANEY brought up the report of the Comtniqee on public works. Mr. YOUNG moved for a return of all payments made out of the Consolidated Fund, under the 39th Geo 111., for the improvement of the port of London, and of the advances made to the Chamber of London.—Ordered. Mr. O'CONNELL moved that nine witnesses (whom be named, residing at Carrickfergus, and connected with the Carrickfergus election), be ordered to attend this House on the 3d of July next. The Hon. and Learned Member stated that an account had been ordered some time' ago of all dioceses in Ireland, in which divine service had not been performed for the last three years, and the order had been complied with in all but three instances, viz , Armagh, Kilmore, and Kilda: e ; he moved that a peremptory order be issued for the returns.—Ordered. The Hon. and Learned Member said, that there had been ordered a return of all parishes in Ireland in which there was no church, which order had been complied with in all parishes ex cept three, viz., Dublin, Kildare, and another ; he moved that those returns he orde:ed forthwith.—Agreed to. HERTFORD ELECTION. On the motion of Mr. BERNAL, the minutes of evi dence respecting the Hertford election were brought up, read, and ordered to be printed. TIMBER DUTIES. Mr. FRYER bagged to ask whether the Noble Lord (Althorp) was aware that parties were now in the habit of taking timber from. Norway to Halifax, and then re shipping it for this country, and so avoiding the duty our partial laws imposed upon Baltic timber ? LOrd 9LTHORi" said that be had be,ird report of such a tiling, but had no official information of it, and did not believe it possible that it could be done to any very great extent. POLICE SPIES. Mr. COBBETT gave notice that on Monday next he should move that a Select Committee be appointed to inquire into the matter of a petition he had presented from certain members of the Political Union of Walworth, complaining of the police being employed as spies, and that the people he not taxed to support them. He hoped the Noble Lord would read the petition, and perhaps then he would agree to his motion. POLITICAL UNIONS. Mr. FINCH rose, pursuant to notice, to bring More the House a subject of considerable importance, although not, p-rhaps, (.4 so great importance as some questions which had been brought before itiu the courseof the session. He begged that it might be most distinctly understood that be brought the question of the Political Unions forward with no party views, and his being a Member of no influ ence in the House, would cause it to lie debated without reference to parry feeling. He Lssured any Hon. Member who might take up the defence of Political Unions, that if he cool,' prove them to be legal or constitutional, lie (Mr. Finch) should be hippy to withdraw his motion. For him self he must confess that, after patiently investigating the subject, he had not been able to discover in these Political Unions any one redeeming vii tue. They were, in their origin, in their principles, and their development, as far as their influence extended, fraught with unmixed mis chief. He was not about to ask for any new law, or the suspension of the Habeas Corpus Act, or for restrictions on the press, or fur interference with the trial by jury —( Hear)—or the right to assemble at public meetings, or any other privilege of the people recognised by the law or constitution of this country. He meant to propose to the House a simple resolution, and, to avoid collision with his Majesty's Ministers, lie had selected its words from a proclamation issued two years back. In its substance, therefore, there could be no difference between him self and his Majesty's Ministers. The resrlution was to the following efftet :—" Resolved, That certain voluntary associations, denominated Political Unions, are subversive of the authority of the Crown, un constitutional and illegal, and that his Maj , sty's 'Ministers will be fully justified in enforcing the law of the land for their suppression, and for the suppression of all Poli tical Unions, be their denomination what they may, of which the nature, principles, designs, and operations are subversive of the authority of the Crown, unconstitu tional and illegal." Tlif-.; Honourable Gentleman then referred to his Majesty' s proclamation for the purpose of showing that it cop:Ca ined the same condemnatory words which be had inaje use of in his resolution, namely, that political unions were " subversive of the authority of the crown, unconstitutional and illegal." There might be some Hon. Members in that House who might conceive that he was about to encroach on the liberties of the people. — (Hear, hear.) 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