The Sun. — London, England, 1854-04-28 00:00:00

THE SUN ) LONDON, FRIDAY EVENING, APRIL 28, 1854. rn g lish unive►sities, which were dependent for theology on the Germans, although many of the doctrines of the latter were repugnant to English views. And this state of things he considered the bill was not calculated to correct. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—I, together with many who sit around me, have listened with great interest to the speech of the hon. member who has just eat down, bet at the same time I have not been successful M gathering his intention as to this bill. T will say a few words, before I refer to the motion before the house, on the general tenour of the speech of the hon. member. sympathise very much with his views as to the functions of the universities, and the duties incumbent on them un der the circumstances of the time, and the dangers to which they and truth are exposed under those circumstances ; but, thaugh I sympathise with him in regard to these partieu ,. lan) and though I am disposed to go some way with him in hie latneutatioue a,s to the deficient state of the university, . in regard particularly to theological learning, yet I must confess, and he will forgive me for so, saying that I think that his speech was pervaded by a tone of exaggeration. I eonfess that, both as to the dangers and the means of meeting them, although there is much of truth in what has fallen from the hon. member, yet I think the state of the case is far from being so bad as he has represented. I confess I do not think, although there are many sad and ominous signs in the state of the times, yet I do not think that Christianity is about to be exiled from the continent of Europe and to come a suppliant to our shores. I do not think either that we are so wholly deficient in the means of defending our faith, for it would not be difficult to refer to the names of many leading divines connected with bath Universities, who have given forth works of very considerable importance, and which are quoted with honour in this and other countries, and their authors are well worthy of taking rank either with the great theolo gians England has produced in former times, or with the eminent men of other countries distinguished in this great branch of learning. (Cheers.) I grant, howeve r , th a t there is in our universities a defect in this respect, and that for several generations the benefits derived from them have been small in proportion to those which under better legislative regulations they might have yielded. Let me point out one ereat error into whi c h th e hon. member has, I believe, unconsciously fallen. He has spoken of the duty of the University as connected with the produc tion of learned works; but let him not ascribe to the University the shortcomings in thi s respec t , as i t b elongs rather to the genius of the nation, to the active and prac tical character of its people, and to the disposition shown by all men in early life to hurry into the discharge of active duties. It is owing to the immense efforts which they have been making, and to the progress which they have achieved in all departments of human action which are furthest apart from speculative thought. (Cheers.) This much, I consider, ought to be stated on behalf of the universities. The hon. gentle man has said that the tutors were to be regarded, in the resent conditio n o f thi ngs, as the bane of the university. ere, I think, ho has sp o k e d a lt oge th er i n error . It was true, as h e had stated, they were not to look to tutors generally for profound research or an extended range of learning. This, no doubt, is so, but it is a condition which attaches itself to the nature of their duties ; but are they lor this to be called the bane of the university ? [Mr. Heeasetass.—l said the tutorial system.l Is, then, the tu toy dal system to be called the bane of the university ? That sy stem discharges, in part, at least, a great work. The greater portion of the minds of England are formed at the university. I grant that much more ought to be, and I hope will be so ; but the work to which the tutors are de voted is to the forming of certain habits of mind and char acter, and I do not think that it can be said that in this they have been unsuccessful. The hon. member has spoken of the learning of the Germans, and I can but echo what he has stated. I often felt ashamed to think that by far the most considerable and interesting work in the univer sities is by a foreigner. I refer to that by Huber, which is such as to make it a treasure to all interested in the uni versities. He has his feelings as a German, and is not blind to the defects of the university, nor does he attempt to conceal them, but lie says that it has discharged a great and essential part in unison with the national character of the nation, by training that class best qualified to guide the future destinies of this country. The course taken in this debate has been of a twofold character. One hon. member has entered at large into the case of the universities, and has not directed his remarks to the terms of the present motion, while on the other hand an hon. member has made a speech with a directbearingon the motion. I would state, however, in passing, that in one portion of the speech of the hen. member for Stroud a question was put, to which I think it my duty to give an answer, and which I consider it easy to answer in a way which will be satisfactory both to the hon. member and the house. The hon. member, after stating the want of theological and other learning in the universities, asks in what way this bill proposes to remedy this defect ? If there were no provisions in this bill which tended to remedy the defects complained of, I should have been sorry to have been a party to sub mitting it to the house. I feel, however, in answer to the hon. member, inclined to invert his question, and ask what provision in the bill does not tend to remedy these defects? (Hear.) And this is effected by the provisions of the bill, by infusing a spirit of freedom into the universi ties, and by releasing its Government from the fetters which have lain on it ; it is not easy to describe this by reference to any particular parts of the bill, but such is its general tendency. (Hear, hear.) The bill also is full of specific provisions of the strongest and most direct character. At present a large portion of the endowments of Oxford are held by persons chosen to enjoy them, not for any great pro ficiency in learning, but on account of the circumstance that they wore born in souse particular spot or related to some particular person. As a general rule, by this bill such endowments are to be converted into prizes, to be bestowed I on account of merit ; and. I am sure the hon. member will willingly admit that such provisions have a tendency to remedy defects. The hon. member, again, complains of there being no provisions to remedy the professorial sys tem. The hon. member has an adequate, I may say, a sublime, idea of the dnties of the professor who sits aloft and directs, through his instruments, the education of the country; and thin bill contemplates to extend this system and to increase the duties and emoluments of the pro fessor, and I am certain that the hon. member will admit this will have a tendency to remedy defects com plained of. But the bill does not stop there, for its pro visions go still further, by providing that fellowships and emoluments at colleges shall only be held on the condition of active duty or study. I think, therefore, that the last objection which can be seriou s ly ma d e t o th e bill is, that it has no tendency to remedy the defects as to learning, especially as to theological learning. The house has also to consider the question involved in the vote, which it has to give on the motion before the house, and, I think the member for North Lancashire must more fully understand the effect of his motion than he did on entering the house this evening, as he has had the advantage of listening to the speech in which his motion was seconded by the mem ber for North Warwickshire ; and from that speech he must have perceived the tendency of his motion. The hon. mem ber for North Lancashire has long made conscientious and energetic efforts in behalf of the attainment of the bene fits to be derived from the national institutions of edu cation ; but he will begin to question whether he has not made a move in another direction, when he is not only supported, but cheered, by the member for North Warwickshire. (Hear.) This motion in effect—and lam far from saying that such was intended by the hon. mem ber who moved it—but, in effect, the motion is to get rid of the measure. (Hear, hear.) Let us have no mistake as to this; and I do not apprehend that there can be much, for the evidence as to such being the effect of the motion is contained in the speech of the hon. member for North Warwickshire, and such evidence is unimpeachable as far as it goes. (Hear, and a laugh.) It is complained, and I believe justly, that we shall lie under great inconvenience when we go into committee, because so few of the mem bers are conversant with the institutions of the university or the provisions of this bill. I do not, however, see how the proposal to refer the bill to a committee of 15 gentlemen up stairs is to have any powerful tendency to remove the evil as to the want of general knowledge of the bill and the universities among the members of the house. I look at the question with reference to the state of the bill altogether. This is a bill containing 5$ clauses; many of these clauses branch out into a variety of particu lars and call into existence other powers to be placed in the hands of the universities, colleges, and commissioners, under which a vast number of processes of what I may term sub-legislation will go. The history of these colleges extends over a period of 600 years, during which period a number of institutions have grown up, no two of which are precisely alike, and the forms of their statutes are complicated ; added to this, there are a number of institutions extraneous to the univer sity, with their separate constitutions and the innu merable schemes for their interest which have been de vised for them through 20 generations either by the bene volence or caprice of individuals—every one of these will be referred to the committee, and there is not a school in the country interested to the amount of 10/. a-year in any of these exhibitions which would not come before the com mittee. I could not, were I the hon. member's most bitter enemy, condemn him to a severer punishmezet than that of conducting the committee which he has so rashly invoked. I, together with my noble friend, have had some expe rience of the preparation which a bill like the present re quires, and I may venture to say something as to this. I will not undertake to say the length of time such a com mittee may last, bnt I do not think that the hon. gentleman heveoul4,findd that after a lapse of six weeks or two months . efiector seti lseen h abled to bring back the bill in a shape as to whether' house. The question, therefore, comes it is desirable theb 'll should be rejected for a year, and secondly whether it is desirable that it should be rejected after thsesecond reading has bee)). affirmed by the house, without a division. Ido not think that it is desirable that it at I it is desirable that u il L be rejected, but if it is thought that be rejected in a plait a sh n o_uld be so, then I think it ought to made as t.,:titagn intelligible manner, by a mo tion directly the motives and reason s of thlerits, so that we might know bill should not be got of ( , se who rejected it. But the formed uner the words oe by a chance combination, apsurnotion honestly intended, but which d are used for the and convenience of others who have no syrnpathe4,Z motion. (Hear, hear.) The bill ought not mover of that pinion n ot to be rejected, and I think I may found this o summoned from every par g t en that of the uuiversity England to hers as discuss this measure ; it is shownaithvaidtetalieeonfnElet,a ambled at Oxford were equally hon. members were not content with the numbersd if wh o d let them analyse the comp osition of those numbers, a n d it id will be found that the great num ber of theme men the work of the university—men who were never mens tioned in this house without respect and honour---aps proved of the principles of this bill. (Cheers.) I do not believe the House of Commons will reject or refuse to con. shier a bill framed by the Government with all the care and skill it could bring to bear upon the task, and which has be en h a il e d b y th e u niversi ty itself, so far as regard s the majority of its working body, as likely to relieve them f r o m res t ra i n t and give greater efficiency to their labours, make the endowments more available for the pur poses for which [they were intended, and immensely to in crease the benefits which the university has conferred upon the country. (Hear, hear.) Ido stot think the house will reject a bill so framed and so received, and which, after ample discussion and time for preparation, was allowed, without a vote, to receive the sanction of this house on the second readings (Hear, hear.) When we have gone into committee and grappled with the difficulties which I freely admi t to exist, and ascertained how near we can come to one another—where we agree and where we differ—l can I quite understand how, after that, it be a ra tional as it. would be a perfectly competent might course for any honourable member to say - --" I feel myself incompetent to the full consid era ti on of this measure, and there fore I should wish t o see it referred to a committee up stairs." But this is clearly not the occasion which such a course ought to be taken, and repeat that, if i n the circumstances have s p o k en o f this -bill should be consigned to a committee for the consideration of its details, the effect will be the postponement of the bill for the present session. (Hear, hear.) There is one other tonic which it is necessary to mention, and it is this —the hon. member for Dumfries, who followed and sup ported the hon. gentleman who has made this motion, gave us to understand that they wished to refer this bill to a select committee in consequence of its not containing any provision for the settlement of the question which has been raised respecting the admission of Dissenters to the uni versity. I thought we wore to have had a fair discussion and debate, both on the whole merits of that important question and upon the eapediency of mixing the considera tion of that with the consideration of the present measure when we got into committee on the bill. The hon. mem ber for North Lancashire gave notice that he would raise that question on the bill going into committee, and, in these circumstances, I submit that ho ought not to pro pose to take the bill from us altogether on account of its not containing spontaneous clauses upon that subject. I will not forestall any question that may be raised in com mittee as to the admission of Dissenters into the universi ties. The hon. member for North 'Warwickshire says, I am under peculiar relations and obligations to the consti tuency which I represent. I admit that, and one of the obli gations 1 owe to that constituency is, that on all questionsin which their interests or feelings are engaged I shall be most circumspect and cautious as to the choice of times and op portunities for discussion. lam unwilling, therefore, to refer to the question of the admission of Dissenters to the universities, because it would be impossible to enter fully and satisfactorily into it ; but I put it to the hon. gen tleman whether he will pursue a course so ungenerous as to attempt to intercept a great measure of improvement for the University of Oxford because it does not contain some other improvement which he thinks essential to a full and satis factory settlement ? (Hear, hear.) The hon. member for Dumfries said that, very often, to grant a certain portion of reform had the effect of stopping all other reforms. I grant that it has the effect of stopping further reforms of the same kind; but what I say is, that if you think it desirable that the real sense, the real mind of the University of Oxford itself, should in the first instance be taken into consideration—that it should give full and fair consideration to the question of the admission of dis senters, then do not press your opposition to this bill. (Hear, hear.) We are going by this bill to restore the liberty of a corporation which, through the intervening agency of a particular statute, has lost the ancient liberties that it possessed. It has come to be in a condition in which its actual power to say aye or no on a simple ques tion depends entirely not on its own sense or judgment, but on the opinion of 24 gentlemen, of the greatest respect ability no doubt, but 24 gentlemen not chosen by the university; not put in to govern the university by the university, but chosen by particular societies to manage the affairs of those societies. (Hear, hear.) Ido not call that freedom. We are going to give the university some thing like a constitution ; we are endeavouring to provide - and Parliament I hope will approve the proceeding that the governing body of the university shall be a real transcription and representation of its mind. (Hear, hear.) Now, on this subject of the admission of dissenters to the universities, I say, without prejudging what the view of the University of Oxford will be, that it never has had the opportunity of considering that question. (Hear, hear.) It never has had the means, it never has had the organs through which to consider that question—to look into the question, and see how far it is possible without departing from the essential principle of their body to meet the reasonable and natural wish of dissenters to avail themselves of these institutions. (Hear.) We ask you now to pass this bill which will give to Oxford a representative government that will eeable them to consider that impor tant subject, and thereby advance the question to that point that will lead to its final solution. (Hear.) On these grounds I venture to express the hope that the hon. gentle man will not persist iu a course of action that is liable to the imputation of indirectly preventing the im provement of the bill in committee. (Hear.) At all events, the course of the Government is clear. As the effect of this motion would be the utter ruin and destruction of the bill for the present year, the Government have no option but to meet it with a most emphatic negative. (Hear.) Mr. HORSMAN wished, in one word, to explain that he spoke of the present system being " the bane of the univer sity," and that be did not mean to apply that term to a body of men for whom individually and collectively it was impossible not to have the highest respect. (Hear.) He should have wished the bill to go to a select committee, as there were corrections which ho was anxious to see made in it; but, on the other hand, he was unwilling to run the risk of the bill not coming back to the house in time, and therefore he could not support the motion of the hon. mem ber for North Lancashire. Mr. HADFIELD hoped the hon. member for North Lan cashire would go to a division. What was this bill to him, or to those who for 150 years and more, had been excluded from the universities? (Hear, hear.) He would have been better satisfied if he had received an assurenco from the Government that it was their intention to admit Dissenters to the advantages of the universities ; but no such assurance had been given, and the inference was drawn by him and all his friends that it was not intended they should be admitted. (Hear, hear.) He hoped the country would take notice of the speech which had that night been delivered by the hon. member for Stroud (Mr. Horsman.) The exposure which he had made of the university system could not be passed over very long. (Hear.) He thought it might be fairly understood that there was a division among Ministers on the subject—(hear, hear)—and that there had been a compromise between them, the effect of which was that they brought in a bill which excluded Dis senters from the universities. (Hear.) He had no sym pathy whatever with the measure before the house, which excluded a decided majority of the people, and he hoped it would be defeated. (Hear.) Lord J. RUSSELL—I did not intend to take any part in this discussion, and would not have done so but for the speech of the hon. member for Sheffield. I must confess that I cannot agree with him, and I protest against the spirit in which he has addressed the house. (Hear, hear.) If there is illiberality in any party—if there is any illibe rality on the part of the Church—if there is illiberality on the part of our laws and institutions, or in any depart ment of the State—the illiberality of the hon. gentleman completely distances any illiberality of which he can com plain. (Hear, hear.) The hon. gentleman asks, " What is this bill to me, and what good will it do to us who are ex cluded from the universities ?" I may be permitted. to mention that I have always been a member of the Church, but I belong to a society the principle of which is that schools shall be established without reference to the cate chism or the Church, and thereby Protestant Dissenters are enabled to obtain the benefit of education for their children. But what if I were to say, "Of what use is this to me ? Of what use is it to me that Dissenters should have the benefit of this education, and not Churchmen ; there for I will not support such schools." (Hear, hear.) Pro testant dissenters ever since the commencement of the reign of the house of Hanover have always professed liberality on these subjects, and this is the first time I have heard it urged, with reference to a case of reform, that it is one that does no good to the Dissenters, and will only suit some 5,000,000 Churchmen, who will be the only persons benefitted in the matter. (Hear.) I ask, are not these Churchmen the fellow-subjects of the hon. gentleman ? Are they not inhabitants of the same country as himself ? If their education can be improved—if poorer members of the Church are to be better rewarded for their learning, can the hon. gentleman not support such claims—has ho no fellowship, no sympathy but for those who belong to his own communion ? (Hear.) I really think the members of the communion to which the hon. gentleman belongs will hardly approve or sympathise with such sentiments. Then the hon. gentleman says this bill is a compromise be tween the members of the Government. He is equally un unfounded in that imputation as he is in his sentiments. (Hear.) When I aseented to the proposal for a commission when the hon. member for North Lancashire—who has been most earnest and zealous in this question—proposed a reform of the universities, and when I stated that the then Government had advised her Majesty to issue a com mission, I stated expresslythat I thought the improvement of the universities should be made a subject of itself, and that the admission of Dissenters should be reserved for separate consideration. (Hoar.) My right hon. friend who sits near me, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, was not connected with me in a political party at that time. We had no political connexion whatever. (Hear, hear.) I said at the time that I thought such a course was the best that could be followed for both branches of the subject—that it would be of advantage for the cause of university reform, on the one hand, and that it would be an advantage to the cause of the admission of Dissenters on the other. (Hear, hear.) I have 'always been—as the hon. gentleman well knows, having at no time disguised my sentiments—l have always been in favour of, and given my vote for, the ad mission of dissenters to the universities, whenever that question was brought forward. (Hear, hear.) Twenty years ago I voted in favour of their admission : but there have always been presented by the universities great ob stacles to the granting of that prayer. It was stated, for example, that it would interfere with the discipline and the organisation of the colleges now existing in Oxford. By this bill it seems to me that those who might bring forward a measure on that subject will stand on a far better ground than before. (Hear, hear.) The hon mem ber for North Warwickshire says that is an objection to the bill. I can understand how the heads of houses who oppose a formidable obstacle, that is not successful in this house, whatever it might he in the other house of Parlia ment, should oppose the admission of dissenters. But I can understand also, when a master of art s h as o p ene d a private h a ll i n th e University of Oxford, if this bill passes, that he should say all dissenters ought to be admitted to the universities, because he, in his private hall, could make such rules as would not render it obligatory on dis senters to attend that kind of religious instruction which did not accord with their own conscientious views. I say, then, that in promoting this bill I am promoting the cause which gentlemen on this side have at heart ; but I feel quite sure of this, that if, because we cannot obtain all our objects at once, we will take care that the Church of England obtains no advantage, that a poor boy who dis tinguishes himself by mathematics, or a knowledge of na tural philosophy, shall not gain the advantage he mi g ht otherwise obtain, because thre is another boy who is not admitted—if wo act upon a maxim so unfair, so illiberal, I say the reform we seek will be postponed for an indefi nite period. (Hear, hear.) I ask, therefore, in the cause of practical reform, that the house will not allow an objection of that kind to operate with regard to this measure. (Hear, hear.) With regard to the hon. gentleman who has made this motion, it seemed to me that his objections, whatever degree of force might belong to them, were questions specially for the committee, and that they are stions that can be f ree ly discussed in com mittee alone. With respect to many of the suggestions that he has made, it may appear on discussion that my bon. friend is right, and at all events he will have a fair hearing for those suggestions. My right hon. friend has truly said that, if he persists in his motion for a select committee,we may expect that that motion will be decisive of the fall of the bill. (Hear.) What my hon. friend can least of all ex- Peet is, that this house will name a committee favourable tlico_loisrahaineslev:ti:eesdveesr. would get It is evident that if he proposed Id gentlemen, with nine or ten of them holding his views, should foofr,hioasu it „ is e , up and propose that seven of these left wo u o l u a t — b a fa l v a o u n g r h a ) b — l ea to od maintainingt h sth einaj t o h r e i majority n o i f v t e h r e . sthitey heads o f as a hpmseame,ostitticeao:alr tn T ho h it e sh r ti e in f i „g o er bueobject, jli. themselves yg t i h i ; au t p i . t p n i. reform o o eln f edoifv. ourd (Hear.) discussion s n and I hope that, seeing the turn Mr. HENLEY t hat hth reference select upon the house. (Hea r , h e ar , ) ,—teahort,gicthare ;l'illlo s trsist in t pressing it e ch could be adopted. committee was the best cours e Mr. MIALL assailed the measure s a la c t r i subservience to epis co p a l authority,asa ennti'inaslnekdly sectarian spirit for a nati ona l object, dho thought that the dissenters would obtain a. hearins;beforeth e ee Mr. HEYWOOD regretted that he c ou ld not conn'slaenite; t to withdraw his amendment, and expressed his determination to divide upon it. air. DISRAELL—Str, if the hon. Member for North Lancashire had consented to withdraw his amendment to the motion now before the house, I should have remained inasmuch ashehael it my duty determin to expressedtod the opinions tthee house silent upon ;btt, i the subject, I fee l relathtievehtoen.itm. member haepriaernsett, in ome thatop i n itohnes amendmentwhi c which entertain m ad eby fact, an irrational one ; became Use question which wo are now sailed upon to consider is one of great magnitude and importance. (Hear.) It was admitted by the noble lord, when he introduced this measure, that the right hon. gentleman the member for the university, whose name is on the back of this bill, and the noble lord himself had not agreed upon what appears to be one of the main subjects of discussion —namely, the admission of Dissenters into the university. (Hear.) The noble lord and the right hon. gentleman had since expressed opinions on this subject quite contrary to, and the reverse of, each other, and therefore it was certainly not very absurd in the hon. member for North Warwickshire to think that somo other arguments might be used and some other reasons suggested relative to the scope and application of this measure. The arguments used by the right hon. gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer to-night have most assuredly not been very satisfactory, and I cannot in any way lend myself to the belief that, by acceding to the amendment of the hon. member for North Lancashire, we should necessarily be creating unlimited delay, or, at any rate, be subjecting the measure to useless procrastination. Surely this is not a class of argument to which the Government ought to have recourse, especially this session—when we have seen re forms of much greater importance than even those of the University of Oxford postponed. (Cheers and laughter.) Surely, sir, if we can afford to delay a reform of the Eng. lisle constitution, it is nut a very unreasonable thing that an hon. member should suggest the propriety of deferring for some time, or until proper inquiries should be made and satisfactory evidence obtained, the consideration of these university reforms. (Hear.) But I deny the assertion which has been made, that a reference of this measure to a select committee is necessarily a postponement of it. (Hear.) If this bill were sent before a select committee it would be possible to produce a bill from it for the consideration of the House, which might accomplish great advantages, and which would still be from the objections which, I think, are obvious on the face of the Government project. What I object to in this bill is, not that it attempts to reform and reconstruct an ancient institution of the country—it is not that it may lead to very great changes, not in the con struction but in the adminietration of the university—but that it strikes a blow—a fatal blow, in my opinion—at the self-government, the freedom, and the independence of the university. That blow I think, is an unnecessary one, and I am sure th a t if this bill were referred to a select com mittee, all the results might be obtained which are required, without dealing the blow which, I am sure, every gentle man on both sides of the house must greatly reprobate and disapprove. That is my great objection to this measure. You propose to form a uew constitution for the University of Oxford. Grant that a necessity is now admitted to exist for the establishment of a new constitution—why do you attempt also, at the same time, to realise what should properly be the results of the action of that new constitu tion? What you propose is not only to establish a new constitution for the university, but alsotoenterinto minute details into all those subjects the ordering and management of which are the proper office of the new constitution which you are about to establish. If the House of Commons is to settle how students are to belodged—if it is to adjudi cate upon a scheme so important as the education to be given by the university—if it is to be decided what portion of the revenues of a college. are to be devoted to the main tenance of the particular objects for which the college was founded, and what portion is to be dedicated to the more general purposes ofthe university—if the House of Commons is to decide on all these subjects where, I ask, is the necessity for creating a new constitution for the university at all ? If you establish a newconstitution for the university,and if you left to it to decide upon all these questions of detail, which are comprised in the sections of this bill, you would not be attacking the power of self-government in the university —you would rather be increasing it, and you would be giving strength and expansion to its freedom and indepen• dence. I may be asked, however, how it was that, enter taining these objections to the bill, I allowed it to go to a second reading without opposition ? Perhaps, sir, if I had altogether followed my own inclination, I should have opposed the second readi ng , an d it certainly was not I may say, without great anxiety and consideration that I acceeded to that stage of the bill ; but I thought the motion of the hon. gentleman the member for North Lancashire gave me an opportunity for expressing my sentiments with regard to the measure. The result at which the house has at present arrived is, that there must be some change in the present constitution of Oxford ; but if the Government project is referred to a select committee, it may make alte rations in the proposed new form of Government, or it may omit all those clauses which refer to what I think ought to be the natural results of the action of that constitution of the university. Take, for instance, the question of private halls—establishments which, perhaps, I may say, are rather 'hostile to the colleges than not. Surely this ques tion, if the university has an adequate constitution pro vided for it, is one which will be much more profitably decided by the university than by the House of Commons. But, sir, I doubt very much whether this bill in any one of its proposals will effect any groat and considerable change in the aspect and general character of the university. I do not believe that if you consent to pass this bill, that if you do actually provide for the entertainment of the stu dent at what are called private halls, you will at all provide for that class of indigentes of whom we have heard so much. The extension of the university in this manner is one of the great objects which you have in view, but I doubt very much whether this bill, if passed into law as it stands, will effect it. Look, too, to another point—the professional system, of which we have heard so much. I doubt very much whether by this bill you will be able to accomplish that great change -in the system of Oxford which has been so much talked of, and which by many is so much feared. A professor —at least, such a one as is expected by the supporters of this bill—is not a man that can be suddenly created, even if you increase his income to a considerable extent. We have heard much to-night from the hon. member for Stroud of the results of the pro fessorial system in English universities, as compared with its results in foreign universities. Sir, I believe there is a great fallacy in that argument. (Hear, hear.) Take Ger many, for instance. What sphere is there for the genius, the intellect, and the energy of Germany but in the pro fessorial chair? (Hear, hear.) Give Germany A House of Commons, and do you think that she would then produce those men of profound erudition, of commanding eloquence men who can bury themselves in speculative abstractions, and produce those results of erudition which, we are told, shake the world more than territorial institutions? (Hear, hear.) The fact is, that in Germany, with a gifted popu lation double the extent of ours, there is no avenue for any man by which he can make the world conscious of his powers but the chair of the professor. In this country you may increase the salaries as much as you please, but to suppose that you can ever produce a class of men like the German professors is one of the most vain conclusions at which you can arrive. Look at the events of 1848, when you had popular chambers springing up in all direc tions all over Germany. Who wore then the members of Parliament? Who were the Presidents and Vice-Presi dents of National Conventions ? Who were Secretaries of State, and even Prime Ministers, but these very pro fessors? I should like to know what was the condition of the German universities when half their chairs were engaged in public affairs ? The eloquence that had formerly adorned the professorial chair now attempted to influence a division; the man who had been the orna ment and glory of a university was now lost in the depth of a Cabinet, acting with the respon sibility of the fortunes of his country and of Europe on his conduct. Why, sir, you had the whole ability of the country devoted to politics ; and if we have not these pro found professors in England, it is because the character of this country is different—(hear, hear)—the character of our life is contrary to it. We are a nation of action, and you may depend upon it that, however you may increase the rewards of professors —you may give them 2,000/. year in stead of 200!.—ambition in England will look to public life—mon will look to the House of Commons, and not to professors' chairs. (Hear.) I believe, therefore, that there is another great point in which you will not find any ma terial change effected by what y ou con t emp l a t e w ith regard to this revoution—this great revival of the professorial system. You will not be able, however you think you may, to lay your hand upon 25 or 30 professors suddenly, capable of effecting a great influence on the youth of Eng land. You cannot get these men all at once; it will be slowly, by degrees, with great difficulty—by fostering and cultivating your resources, that you will be able to produce one of these great professors —a man able to influence the public opinion of the university. Whether, then, you look to the great change which you propose with respect to these private halls—which is, in fact, a revolution of the collegiate system—or whether you look to the great alte ration you contemplate by the revival of the professorial instead of the tutorial system —on both points you will meet, I think with great disappointment. With regard to that part of the bill which deals with the property of the colleges, I think it is neither more nor less than an appropriation clause. It may not at first assume the hideous aspect of such a proposition, but if you analyze it—if you calmly reflect upon it—it is neither more nor less than an appropriation clause. (Hear, hear.) But if you find, on the other hand, that the university is not extended by your private halls, and, on the other, that this new system of education by professors instead of tutors is ono which works very slowly—(hear) and which does not, even with the long sequence of time, effect the changes which you anticipate, you may say that the property of the colleges will not be consider- ably assaulted or diminished. Grant all this. But you grant at the same time that the bill before us is a harmless bill; because, in fact, it will affect little or nothing. , Upon subjects of so grea t i mpor t ance I cannot say that I am iu favour of supporting a bill simply because I think it may do no harm—according, of course, to my view of moral and social injury ; the very fact that you are dealing with great subjects and great interests, although you may ultimately accomplish little, is iu itself a very great evil. But I do not rest my objection on this, what may be con sidered, limited ground. Admitting that this bill is not an effective measure—admitting that it does not produce any considerable change—admitting that it does not mate rially affect the character and condition of the university —will there not, I ask, be a feeling of great disappoint. nient excited by it ? The real university reformers will naturally rise and say, " This bill of yours which we sup ported turns out just as wo suspected from the first—it does no good at all; Oxford is open to all those objections which we have always urged against it ; it is characterized by all those evils which we have so often denounced it re mains ; somewhat modified, perhaps, in form, but in spirit in the same, and, therefore, what we require now is a thorough and real reform." But will not these real re formers find some advantage in the bill before us, although it may not have produced any results ? Will they not take advantage of the clause in this bill which appropriates a portion of the revenues of the colleges, studiously and subtlely as the application of that clause may at present be guarded, and will they not come forward with re doubled force, appealing to your failure as a fatal pre cedent for a stronger measure ? I see in a moment what must be the consequences of the legislation now recom mended ; if this bill be successful according to its avowed objects, you do not meet the difficulties with which you have to contend, and if it fails to produce any absolute and actual change in the general character and condition of the university, it gives a standing ground of immense advantage for the future as saults of those whose designs I cannot sympatise with, and whom I wish to oppose. But if this bill be referred to a select committee, shall we not have means to counteract this difficulty? We shall then have the opportunity of framing the constitution of the university in that manner which we may think most likely to accomplish all that is necessary, and we can invest it with all the power which is necessary to produce the desired results. Then, if the, universities ever effects changes—if it deals with the ques tion of increased accommodation for students—if it deals with the question which system of education should be most encouraged by the university—if it deals oven with the appropriation of college property—it will be from its own action, with entire independence, with entire . free dom, with en ti re se lf- governmen t, w hi c h, in my opinion, it is of th e u t mos t i mpor t ance f or us t o encourage in those great seats of learning whose fortunes are now under our consideration.. I know it may be an observation distaste ful to many, though I make it with every respect—but I cann o t help feeling that if we do that which is somewhat difficult, if we fro% ourselves for the moment from that , heated p o li tical atmosphere in which we all of us move, and if we t a k e a general glance at our conduct for the last o years, say, we must observe that there has been what may be called a morbid tiodre on the part of the Legisla. tura of this country to effect changes in the institutions of the country. (Hear.) I say, on the part of the Legisla ture, because I am bound to say, that I do not see that desire and intention on the part of the people of this country. On a point like this there is nothing like refer once to facts. About 20 years ago, or less, there was oa the part of the Legislature an assault on the estates of the church. Then it was said that the ecclesiastical revenues of a considerable portion of the church were not directed and devoted in the manner most advantageous to the State ; there were anomalies and imperfections which ought to be removed, arid an appropriation clause was pro posed in this house with respect to those revenues. It was not the will of Parliament or the authority of the Sovereign that prevented that appropriation, but it was the good sense and the good feeling of the great body of the community. (Hear, hear.) Twenty years have now elapsed, and I should like a question of that condition to be brought before the House of Commons at present. I have no doubt that the verdict of the House of Commons would sanction the good sense and the good feeling of the great body of the people. There is no one at the present moment but recognises that that was a proposition on the part of the Legislature of a revolutionary character, which was not justified by circumstances, and which futurity has not sealed with its approbation. (Hear, hear.) Well, sir, there is another great question in which I see the same morbid desire evinced by the Legislature to deal with the institutions of the country, which, in my opinion, is not shown by the people of the country, and that is the re construction of Parliament. During the last 20 years there has been no scheme, however wild or however matured, which has not been brought forward by statesmen and by gentlemen opposite upon this subject. From the charter down to the last scheme of the noble lord you have had propositions brought forward in their turn to effect great changes in one of the most important institutions of the country—the House of Commons. (Hear, hear.) But I say that the morbid desire evinced by the Legislature to deal with the institutions of the country in that respect has not been shared by the people, because, certainly, with re gard to Parliamentary reform, as well as with respect to the attack upon the ecclesiastical revenues, it has not been the Opposition that has prevented the measure passing, but it has been the good sense of the people of the country. (Cheers.) In these changes we have had the estate of the church attacked, and we have had the construction of the House of Commons assailed by the Legislature. The unh a ll owe d h an d i s now l a id upon the ark of the universities, and the same plea is urged on the same fallacy. And what is that plea? The plea is, that there are anomalies and imperfections that ought to be removed; the fallacy i s , th at i n removing these anomaliesand imperfections we never calculate and we never consider that much greater injury is done to a country like the pre sent by outraging the principles upon which our institu tions thus depend than by removing a few anomalies and imperfections. I have had occasion to say before, and lam not ashamed to say it now, that this country is ruled by traditionary influences. You might have a stronger Go vernment than you haVe at present, by getting rid of these traditionary influenceseeyou might have a standing army —you might have a logical, inexorable, and vigorous sys tem of centralised administration—you may have State education or secular education ; you may have a stronger Government, but you will have a weaker people. And, sir, among these traditionary influences the influence of the universities of the country has not been the least consider. able. Its direct action has been great ; its indirect action has been greater. If I were asked, " Would you have Oxford with its self-government, freedom, and indepen dence, but yet with its anomalies and imperfections, or would you have the university under the control of the Government ?" I would say, " Give me Oxford, free and independent, with all its anomalies and imperfections." (Cheers.) But, sir, the painful alternative is not placed before us. We have a propitious occasion at present before us in which we aro invited, as it were, by the universities to increase their powers—to give them an enlarged sphere of action. Why do we not take advantage of that opportunity ? Why do we not come forward and say, " We will construct for you a constitution (which, indeed, under this bill you are professing to construct) adequate to the occasion. We will leave it to this new constitution, with all its independence and freedom preserved and respected, to make all those alterations, and to effect all those changes which the course of time and the altered circumstances of the country, of the age, and of the university require ?" So far you could advance with truth, with justice, and, I believe, you would advance with success. But the moment you quit that line you are degrading the university, and you are destroying one of those influences which, in the aggregate, forms one of the elements by which you govern this coun try. Remember what is at stake. It is the national cha racter of the count r y th a t d e p en ds upon y o ur respecting the institutions of the country. (Cheers) I know well the objection may be made, and it has been made by an hon. gentleman opposite, that the university has had the opportunity to make the necessary changes, and that the university has been found wanting. But is that true ? I t is very true that in 1847 the University of Oxford ac knowledged that considerable changes should be effected, and that in 1850 all the changes deemed necessary had not been accomplished. But was the task easy ? It is not true that in the interval nothing was done. Much was done, but it was not an easytaskfor a university which had existed for 800 years to accomplish in a short time all that was re quired. I have said before, you will have much to answer for if you place the universities of this country under the control of the State. I believe that is the great point in the question, and I cannot understand how gentlemen oppo site, though they may bo university reformers, and though they may be extremely anxious to see great changes, espe cially in the University of Oxford, for reasons that may in fluence them, I cannot understand how they can consent to obtain such results at so costly a price as to place a univer sity, which, of all institutions, should be independent and free, under the control and management of the State. (Hear, hear.) There is one point upon which, though I touch upon it with reluctance, I cannot allow the debate of this night to pass entirely in silence. It is that strange appeal which has been made to the house to-night in sup port, as I believe, of this policy of interference in the management of the universities of the State by the hon. member for Stroud. Isay I believe it, because lam totally at this moment at a loss to understand whE s course the hon. gentleman is about to take. [Mr. HOMMAN made a remark which was inaudible in the gallery.] I ate told that the hon. gentleman has, said at a moment I had not the pleasure of listening to him that he intends to oppose the amendment of the hon. member for North Lancashire, be cause until he had heard the statement of Government, he had not been exactly aware what the object of that amendment was. lam surprised that an hon. gentleman who goes so far into futurity— Mr. HORSMAN said he had been misunderstood. He had not stated what the right hon. gentleman had repre sented him to have said, but what he really had stated was this, that if the bill were sent to a select committee and would come back to the house this year in time to pass the Legislature, he would have supported the amendment of the hon. member for North Lancashire, but that, as he believed, if an amendment were carried, the bill would be rejected for a year, he preferred giving his support to the proposition of the Government. Mr. DISRAELI—That is an objection which I have al ready noticed. I do not think upon the subject of the university that delay can be more fatal than upon the sub ject of the British constitution. (Cheers.) And, if we can postpone the reform of parliament, not for a year, but for even an indefinite period, I am disposed to think we shall not incur too grave a hazard in voting for the amendment of the hon. member for North Lancashire. (Laughter and cheers.) But the point upon which I wish to touch, and which I touch upon in this house always with great regret and concern, is the appeal made to the House of Com mons to support a measure which I believe in itself would be ineffective for the ptirpose it asserts and al leges, and which I think would lead to most dangerous consequences, upon the strange and startling grounds alleged by the hon. member for Stroud. We are to pass this bill because Christianity is in danger, because we have a prospect before us of the religion in which we all believe finding a solitary refuge in the British isles. Sach is the statement of the hon. gentleman, and such is his opinion of Divine revelation, that that is a contingency more than probable, and it is a result we must arm against by the immediate institution of professors at Oxford. (Hear, hear.) But I must presume to remind the hon. ' gentleman that, whatever he may think of the erudition and the philosophy of Germany, there was a period when a country not less enlightened, not leas civilised, not less qualified by human accomplishment, under Divine favour, to influence the fortunes and the opinions of mankind—l must remind the hon. gentleman that there was a time when such a country produced men who, in genius, in acquirement, in brilliancy of conception, and in splendour of diction would not yield even to German professors. That country was France—a country enlightened by Vol taire and inflamed by Rosseau. That was the country where all the philosophers of Europe assembled, it was a country where they devoted themselves to the destruction of that system which the hon. gentleman thinks now in danger—which ho thinks can only be preserved by uni versity reform. But that was a country, and that was an age in which the highest genius directed to an end was eminently successful. There was not a sacred image in that country that was not desecrated. Every holy tradition, every divine thought in the inspired literature of the Hebrew people, in whatever language it was written, was treated with contumely and contempt. You had the triumph of philosophy (I know not who were the pro fessors of philosophy at Oxford at that moment)—you witnessed the fatal success of that insurrectionary at tempt which now appals the honourable gentleman. Long years have passed since that catastrophe. I and all of us have probably visited that laud. I have seen the churches in that country supported by no State endowment, but upheld by the sympathy of be lieving millions. I and all of use who have been in that country have seen devoted to the Christianity which the hon. gentleman thinks in danger all the re sources of art and all the divine attributes of genius, and I cannot forget that at this moment, when, after a peace of nearly half a century, England is again embarked in war— when England has entered upon a contest the fortune of which may alarm the boldest and make the most sanguine timorous—l cannot forget that the ruler of the nation to which I have referred is our most trusty, and I believe most trustworthy ally. (Cheers.) When I remember this, I defy the efforts of the German professors ; let them shut up churches, lot them tear down sacred images, and what will happen in Germacy is that which has happened before in France—the altars will again be adorned, and the cause of truth will be upheld by an influence more powerful than university reform. (Loud cheers.) Mr. BRIGHT felt himself incompetent to discuss the details of the bill, but it appeared to labia to be, like other recent measures, a compromise of a doubtful character. A clause that was good seemed immediately counteracted by a clause of another description. He did not think that the Government, not being agreed as to the measure, ought to press it on their supporters. Ho was invited to co-ope rate in a tinkering amendment of a bill said to be of a na tional character; and then he, and five millions who thought like him as to the Establishment, wore told that they had no sympathy and no part in the matter. He re marked that the boasted university system had not pro duced union even in the Church itself. The Dissenters would, if this bill were passed, find themselves forgotten. If Government could not carry the measures which ought to be carried, they ought not to meddle with them at all, and he called on Lord John Russell to make a stand for the Dissenters, and take the opinion of the house upon it, and he would obtain a majority. Mr. VERNON SMITH did not believe that the Dis senters would gain anything by referring the bill to a select committee. It was in the house that their admission must, and he believed would, be carried. He explained that he considered the committing the education of youth to the clergy, who were ignorant of business and of the world, was a mistake. Mr. BLACKETT gave his vote in favour of the amend ment, but reluctantly, because he would not appear to un dervalue the pains the Government had bestowed on the measure. But the more he considered its provisions, the more he was conv i nced that the house was no t yet in a position to discuss the bill. Mr. W. J. FOX protested against the coming division being taken as one on the question of the rights of the dis senters. The universities, which ought to be national, were a spiritual monopoly, and ought not to be in the hands of a sect which had lon comma to command the ro• Terence of the majority of the nation. But there would be ample opportunity for discussing the larger question. He should not support a proposal for procrastination. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in answer to an observation of Mr. BRIGHT'., denied that he had de clared himself opposed to the admission of dissenters, but said that he had merely reserved the expression of his opinion. Tho house, after five hours and a half of discussion, divided, and the numbers werc,-- For the amendment For going into committee 172 Mr.joritT for Govern=ent ---32 lir. HENLEY then moved that the committee should be postponed for a week. The bill, as last amended, had not been in the hands of members until that 'Joining, and there were mats rial alterations from the old bill. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER explained that these alterations were not material. Some discussion followed, and Mr. HENLEY pressing his motion, the house divided, and the numbers were— For going into committee For the week's postponement Majority for Government --59 The house then went into committee on the bill. Mr. WALPOLE had predicted the difficulties that had arisen ; but the noble lord had said it was too late. The house was therefore now in the position of considering a bill of which few hon. gentlemen knew the nature, unlss they had, like him, carefully followed all the changes that had been made in it. He (Mr. Walpole) had a great num ber of amendments to propose, and he had not as yet had any opportunity of consulting his friends on them. He therefore asked the noble lord, now that he had gained the advantage of progress, to postpone the bill for a few days, in order that all the amendments to it might be teen together. Lord J. RUSSELL could nit understand why the right hon. gentleman had not consulted his friends on the sub ject not only a few days, but a few weeks ago, as the bill was now six weeks before the house. Sir J. PAKINGTON said this was not the case. Mr. HORSMAN had several amendments to propose, but had not had time to prepare the whole of them. Mr. WAL eOLE assured the noble lord he had lost no time in preparing the amendments ho wished to propose. Lola J. RUSSELL named Monday. Mr. DISRAELI would like to have had a longer time, but would accept what had been so graciously offered. The Hon. CHAIRMAN reported progress, and asked leave to sit again. The Conventual and Monastic Institutions Bill debate was postponed till neat Thursday. BRIBERY BILL. Mr. WALPOLE moved for leave to bring in a bill to consolidate and amend the laws relating to bribery, cor rupt treating, and undue influen ce a t e l ec ti ons . —A gree d t o. Mr. BAINES moved for a select committee to inquit e into the operation of the law, Bth and 9th Viet., c. 117, relating to the removal from England of chargeable poor persons born in Scotland, Ireland, the Isles of Man, Scilly, Jersey, or Guernsey; and also into the operation of the law Bth and 9th Viet., c. 83, relating to the removal from Scotland of chargeable poor persons born in England, Ire land, or the Isle of Man. Lord J. RUSSELL laid on the table a copy of the con vention between her Majesty and the Emperor of the French. The house adjourned at a quarter past eleven. PARLIAMENTARY DIVISION. HOUSE OF COMMONS—APRIL 27. OXFORD UNIVERSITY BILL. Order for committee read ; motion made, and question pro posed, "That Mr. Speaker do now leave the chair." Amendment proposed, to leave out from the word "that" to the end of the question, in order to add the words "the bill be committed to a select committee," instead thereof. Question put, "That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the question." The house divided ; ayes 172, noes 90. AYES-172. • Acland, Sir T, Gaskell; J. Palmerston, Viscount A lcock, T. (leach, C Patten, J. Atherton, W. Gilpin, Col, 11. Peel, F. Bavihaw, J. Gladstone, W. Phdlimore, R. J. Baines, Rt. Hon. M. Gladstone, Capt. J. Phinn, r. Berkeley, G. Goderich, Viscount Pigott, F. Bethell, Sir R. Good, W. Pilkington, J. 'Eddalida, Col. R. M. Goulhurn, H. Price, Sir It. P.Ergs, W. Graham, Sir J. Price W. Bland, L. H. Greene, Thomas Ramsdell, Sir J. B iiam•Carter, J. Greg son, Samuel Ricardo, 0. .. Bouverie, Hon. E. P. Hall, Sir Benjamin Rice, E. Bowyer, G Heard, J. Bichanison, J. Boyle, Lt -Col. Heneage, Geo. H. Bolt, P. Brady, J. Henea4e, Gco. F. Russell, Lord J. Brainston, T. W. Herbert, H. Bussed, F. C. Brand, II B. W. Herbert, S Russell, F. W. Brotherton, J. Hervey, Lord A. Sadielr, James Isrown W. Higgins, G. G. Mohair, John Bruce, Lord E. Hindley, C. Saudars, G. Bruce, H. A. ilm.sinan, E. ' Sawle, C Buckley, Gen. Howard, H n. C. Scholefleld, W. Bulkeley, Sir R. Hudson, G. Scubell, Capt. G. Byng, G. 11. C. Hutchins, E. Scrope, G. Cairns, H. Ingham, It. Scully, F. Cardwell. E. Jermyn, Rt. lln. Earl Seymour, Lord 1 Chambers, M. Johnstone. Sir J. Seymour, H. Chambers, T. Keogh, W. Seymour. W. Child, Smith Kershaw, J. Shaft°, R. Cholmondeley, Lord Kinnaird, A. Shee, Sent. W. Christy, Samuel Kirk, W. Shelley, Sir J. Clinton, Lord R. R. P. Labouchere,Rt.Hon.H Shirley, E. Cobbett, J. M. Langston, s. H. Smith, R. Cockb ,rn, Sir A. J. E. Langton, IL G. Smyth. J. G. Cocks, T. S. Lawley, F. C. botheron, T. Collier, It P. Lee, W. Strutt, E. Compton, IL C. Lewis, Sir T. F. Sutton J. Dent, J. D. Lockhart, A. E. Tattered, H. Hering, Sir E. C. Loveden, P. Thicknesse, H. Drumlanrig, Vis. Lowe, It. Thornely, , T. Duncan, G. Mac iregor Jas. ThoriMill, W. Dunlop, A. MacGregor, J. Vernon, G. East, Sir J. 31eTaggart, Sir J. Walinsley, Sir J. Egerton, W. Mangles, it, Warner, E. Egerton. E. Massey, W. Warner, E. Elinley, VW. Mills, T. Whitbread, S. Esinonde, J. Ilolesworth, Slr W. Wickham, U. Feilden, M. Moncri,tr, J. Wilkinson, W. Ferguson, Sir It. Monsell, W. Willcox, B. Ferguson, J. Moody, C. Williams, W. Fulmer, Sir E. Morris. D. Wise, A. Fitzgerald, W. Itio w bray, J. Wood, sir C. Fitzroy, Hon. 11. Muntz, G. Wo dd, B. Forster, C. Oakes, J. Wynne, W. Forster J. O'Brien, C. Wyvill, M. Fortescue. C. Oliveira, B. Fox, it. Osborne, R. TELLERS. Fox, W. Otway, A. Hayter, W. French P. Palmer, Roundel! Muligrave, Earl of NOES-90. Arkwrlght, G. Farrer, J. Milligan, R. BagKe, W. Floyer, J. NI ic.,e•l, Dr. W. Baldock, E. Forbes, W. Mitchell, T. Bankes, lit. Hon. G. For:4er, Sir G. Mu ndy, W. Barnes, T. Proven C. Mu rrourgh, f. Barrington, Vist. Galway, Viscount Nei-legate, C. Beach, Sir M. Gardner, R. Borth, Lt.-Col. J. Bell, J. Graham, Lord M. PaAra, C. lienthick, Lord H. Greene, .'apt. John Pal ;ington, Sir J. Bentinck, G. Gwyn, Rowel Palk, L. Bernard, Vist. Hadfield, George Peohell, Sir G. Blake, M. J. Hanhury,Capt. tion.C. Pell •tt, A. Boldero, Lt.-Col. H. G. Hastie, Archd. Phi Jimore, J. G. Booker, T. w. Henley, J. Roebuck, J. Bright, J. Hume, W. Sm'ltn, J. B. Brocklehurst. J. Jolliffe, Sir W. Stafford, A. Brown, H. Jones, Capt. T. Stanley, Lord Buck, L. W. Keating, H. Swill, B. Buller, sir J. Kennedy, T. Trollope, Sir J. Cecil, Lord Kerrison, Sir E. Tyre!, Sir J. Cheetham, John Lf.ffan, Capt. It. Vyvy an, Sir R: Christopher, Robt A. Lennox, Lord H. G. Walcott, Rear-Ad. Clay, Sit W. Rt. Lindsay, W. Whit more, A. Clifford, Lt. Col. H. M. Lisburne, Earl Wig:TAM, Loftus T. Cliaton, Lord C. P. P. Lockhart, W. Willoughby, Sir H. Cobden, R. Long, W. Wy nu, Cap:. H. Codrington, Sir C. W. Lowther, Capt. H, Craufurd, E. H.J. Matins, R. Davies, 1). A. S. March, Earl of TELLERS. Devereux, J. T. SI astennan, J. Disraeli, lit. lion. B. M a unsell, Col. T. Heywood, J. Duke, Sir J. Alia% E. Blackeit, J. F. B. ART AND PHOTOGRAPHY.—There is a battle going on between the high-toned artists and the prActical men, as to the extent to which photography can justifiably be used in art. The aesthetic advocates vie yr the optical stranger with some distrust, and fear that. the power of taking dozens of copies of works of art with very little trouble will disentitle those copies to 'be designated works of art at all. Some of our eminent men, how ever—eminent as true artists—declare the y are ready to avail themselves of the art of photography, in certain tedious details of their art. A story is t. )1d of a noble peeress, whose portrait was painted by Sir Thomas Law rence ; both the peeress and the artist became tired and cross during the imitation of a satin dres e ; the impa tience of stillness in the one, and the renuirement of stillness insisted on by the other, nearly occasioned a collt,ion of tempers. Now it has been urged that the photograph might render admirable aid 1:o. an artist in hundreds of instances such as this. Mee h 'mical exact ness the photograph can realise, beyond the power of the eye or the pencil to imitate ; and th ere is ample reason to believe that, after accepting aid 01 'this kind in mechanical details, there will always be abundant scope left for the genius of the true artist.—Dick. ass's House- hold Words. THE DEFENCES OF THE NORTH EAST CO! AST.—TYNE MOUTH, THURSDAY AFTERNOON.—The Inspt actor-General of Ordnance is down here to-day surveying the harbour, mouth, and line of coast. The Sappers and Miners have staked out ground for a powerful lbattery com manding the estuary of the Tyne and a considerable range of the south-easternmost point of the Northumber land coast. It is stated that the line of ci cut from the Tyne to the Humber will be immediately sizif.veyed, with a view to the defences. The battery staked, out in this garrison is about forty feet from the east and south walls, and will occupy a commanding altitude. Clifford's Fort, at the mouth of the harbour, will also be fortified. The company of Artillery will be removed flonr. hence on Saturday week to Woolwich. They will be r elieved by a detachment of the 2d battalion from Leith. 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Indeed I was in utter despair; and never expected to get over it, when I was fortunate enough ',A) become acquainted with your Revalenta Arahica, which, Heaven be praised, restored me to a state of health which 1 long since despal red or att aining. My lungs, liver, stomach, head, and ears are all right, my hearing perfect, and my recovery is a marvel to all ray acquain.. tances.—l am, respectfhlty, ~ Jeans ROISEILTS, Wood Me' chant.' In canisters, su it a b ly packed for all cl i ma t es , ai d with MU Instruo. tions-1 lb., 2 s 9, 1; 2 lh., 4s 6d ; 51b., Ifs ; 12 lb., 22s : super re fined, 5 lb., 225; 10 lb., 33 5. The to lb. and 12 lb. carriage tree, cg, receipt of Post- o M ce order B arry , D u harry, a nd Co., 7 Revern street, London; Fortnum,3lasou, and Co., purveyors ti her midestY. Pi ccadilly; also at 63, Oxford-street; 60, Graceahurnb, S t reet ; 49. 731 4opagate•stron ; 4 cheapsicle ; 330 Awl 451 1 Strand, • SPQRTING LWTELTIIGENCE. YORK SPRING MEETING.-THIIRSDAY. The CONSOLATION SCRAMBLE of 50 sovs, added to a Handicap Sweepstakes of 5 sovs each ; for all ages. T.Y.C. Twelve subs, Mr. J. Osborne's Helena (h b), by Launcelot, 4 yrs, 7st - (Carroll) 1 Mr. Walker's Cimicina, 2 yrs, sst 21b (Bearpark) 2 Lord Zetland's C om fit, 4 y rs , Bst 3lb (J. Marson) 3 The following also ran—Guicowar, St Andrew, The Jewess, Donna, Nelly Hill, Tommy, and Bright Plicehus. Betting-7 to 2 each agst Comfit and The Jewess, 4to 1 each agst Nelly Hill and Bright Pbcebus. Won very easily by two lengths ; same distance between the second and third. Tommy, Bright Phoebus, and Gui cowar, the next three, ran in abreast. The Jewess and St. Andrew were seventh and eighth. Donna and Nelly Hill lost start, pulled up, and did not pass the post. The FLYING DIITCEMAN'S HANDICAP of 100 soVS, added to a sweepstakes of 20 sovs each, 10 ft, and only 5 if declared, &c. Certain winners extra. One mile and a half. Fifty subs, 21 of whom pay 5 snvs each. Mr. Howard's Virago, by Pyrrhus the First, 3 yrs, 6st 41b (including 91b extra) Lord Zetland's Ivan, 3 yrs, sst 101 b (Carroll) 2 Lord Eglinton's Vanderdecken, 4 yrs, 7st...(Ashmali) 3 Mr. Moseley's Alonzo, aged, 7st 71b (including 91b extra) The following also ran :—Talfourd, Ammonia, Light of the Harem, and El Dorado. Betting-4 to 3. on Virago, 9to 1 agst Alonzo, 10 to 1 agst Ivan, 20 to 1 agst any other Talfourd and Alonzo jumped off in front, but were soon passed by Ivan, who made strong running, with Ammonia second. Alonzo third, Light of the Harem and Tallourd the next two, the favourite lying last but one until they skirted the wood, when she dreg into the fifth place, and after making Middlethorp Turn stride by stride she gained on the front horses, until at the bend she was a clear second to Ivan. The race in excited a very lively interest. Until Ivan was within half a ilistance of home his chance was not extinguished. From that point, however, be dropped off, and was at last defeated cleverly by a length. Four lengths between the second and third. Alonzo was fourth, Talfourd fifth, El Dorado sixth. Arniuouia asd Light of the Harem pulled up and walked in. Immediately after the race Virago was declared not to start for the Loncle-iborough Cup. The EGLINTON STAKES of 10 arms each, h ft, with 50 added ; for two-yr-olds, 7st ; three, 9st. Certain al lowances. Three-quarters of a mile. Twenty-one subs. Lord Zetland's Hospodar, by Hetman Platoff, 3 yrs, 9:4 (J. Manson) 1 Mr. J. Osborne's Lord Alfred, 2 yrs, Est 91b (Carroll) 2 Mr. C. Peck's Lord Hill (late Eta), 3 yrs, Bst 91b (Holmes) 3 Mr. J. Adkins's Titormus, 2 yre, bet 91b .(Wells) 4 The following also ran :—Merry Moak and Twinkle. Betting-5 to 4on Hospodar. sto 2 and 3to 1 agst Titormus, sto 1 -agst Lord Alfred. The race was with Hospodar and Lord Alfred throughout ; the former winning by a neck ; three lengths between the second and third. The LONDESBOROUGH Cup. value 100 sovs. in specie, added to a Handicap Stakes of 5 sovs. each, for three yr-olds and upwards ; certain winners extra. The second to receive. 10 sovs. out of the stakes. One mile. Fifty-two sobs. Mr. J. Osborne's Helena (11 b), 4 yrs, Est 121 b (in cluding 71b extra) (Carroll) 1 Lord Zetland's Comfit, 4 yrs, 7st 21b... (Ashman) 2 Mr. R. Jones's Adelaide, 3 yrs, sst 51b (Percy) 3 Mr. Edwards's General Breezo, 3 yrs, sst 71b (T.Cliff) 4 The following also ran :—King of Trumps, Snowdot, Dunhill, The General, Captain Cornish, Braxey, Lord Lieutenant, The Hatchet, Patience, Syvagde, The Field Marshal, Kennyside Hero, Phoenix, and Orange Blossom. Won by a length and a half; same distance between second and third ; a head between third and fourth. The TYRO STAKES of 5 sovs each, with 40 added, for two yr-olds, Optional Selling weights. T.Y.C. Five subs. Usurer Cimicina Five ran. Won by a length. The Cm PLATE of 25 sovs, added to a sweepstakes of 5 sovs each ; for three-yr-olds and upwards. Optional selling weights. One mile. Seven subs. Mirabeau Bridek irk Six ran. Won ()amity. BETTING AT HARRER'S—TUESDAT NIGHT. THE TWO THOUSAND. 5 to 4 and 6 to 5 apt Boiardo (taken). 500 even between him and the field laic. CHESTER CUP. Peggy was frequently inquired after, but only two or ;hree email bets were laid. 25 to 1 agst Lough Bawu (taken to 1001.) DERBY. 9to 2 apt Autocrat. 6to 1 avt Dervish (to upwards of 3001.) 6to 1 agst King Torn. WEDNESDAY NIGHT. 100 even agst Virago's winning The Flying Dutch man's Handicap sad the One Thousand Guineas Stakes (laid 4 or 5 times). _ _ 6 to 1 agst her . winning the Name two and the Landes borough Cup (taken). THE Two THOUSAND. 100 to 90 and sto 4 agst Koiardo (taken freely). 3to 1 and 5 to 2 agst Ruby (taken). 7 to 1 agst Middlesex. 15 to 1 agst Champagne (offered). 20 to 1 agst Marble Hill (taken). 25 to 1 agst Physalis cost (taken). This meeting has now obtained a fair start in the race for popularity. Its prosperity must be dated from the establishment of the Great Northern Handicap—an event got up and maintained solely by the licensed vic tuallers of York and their friends. By the way, the suc cesses of Virago have induced the race committee to insert a new clause in the conditions of this race, to the effect that the winner of any two handicaps of 500 sews each shall be liable to a penalty of 141 b. The.meeting on the whole was the most successful of the spring gatherings at old Ebor. Not only was the subscription room more numerously attended than on any previous anniversary, not even excepting the year of the great match between Vultigeur and the Flying Dutchman ; but the receipts of the Grand Stand on Tuesday exceeded the amount on the opening day last yell. by 2001. The two leading handicaps of the meet ing were won by Virago. Immediately after her second achievement, her owner, being, as he expressed it, de sirous of not spoiling sport, requested Mr. Rudetone Read, one of the stewards, to scratch her fur the Londes borough cup. The business of the meeting was conducted in the most praiseworthy manner. The weather on the first day was fine but cold ; on Thursday light showers fell at brief intervals. LATEST BETTING ON THE COURSE. THE TWO THOUSAND. sto 4 agst Boiardo. sto 2 agst Ruby. Bto 1 agst Middlesex. CHESTER CUP. 18 to 1 agst Star of Surrey (t .ken). 1000 to CO ng-4t Dr. O'Tooie (taken). 20 to 1 agst Peggy (taken). 20 to 1 agst Aldtord (taken). THE DERBY. sto 1 agst Autocrat. sto 1 agst Dervish (6 to 1 taken freely). 7to 1 agst King Tow. 1000 to 30 agst Neville. RACING FIXTURES FOR 1854. MAY. Newmarket F S Chester Spring 9 Lewes l9 _ Lc ...othiansei Edinburgh 11 Newmarket S S l6 Shrewsbury l3 JU Manchester Ascot Heath... l3 Newcastle-on-Tyne 2O Hampton 2l Carlisle 26 JU Bath 23 Liverpool Hunt Spring 24 Epsom . 30 E. Bibury 2B Stockbridge ... .... ... 29 Ludlow 30 Winchester 3O Newmarket - Worcester Lancaster ..... Mansfield Liverpool Ipswich .17. Stourbridge l7 Stittnford lB Nottingham 2O Goodwood. 25 :).1 Ripon 12 13 AU( Brighton Brighton Club.. 4 Wolverhampton Yarmouth 8 Reading Odiham 9 North Staffordshire 9 Wolverhampton ........• 14 SEPTE 'UST. 0 2 Eg.harn 23 York . 24 Hereford 28 Eccles Chelmsford 99 Derby 29 Plymouth 3O Lincoln 3l :MBER. Warwick Lichfield ................. W-2stern Meeting 7 Rochester and Chatham_ 7 Doncaster 12 Pontefract 18 Bedford l9 Leicester 90 Manchester Autumn ...21 Lanark ......... 25 Newmarket F 0 26 Northallerton 2B SHIPPING INT ELLIGENC E. CUSTOM-HOUSE, APRIL 27. 'ENTERED INwARDS. —The Vivander, from Lisbon ; Mal, - ;- neft, Stettin ; Mette Claudiane, Malmo ; Success, Gothen• br t rgh ; Elane, Randers; Egersuuderen, Stavenger ; Ito ir tulus, Frederickshalde ; Vertrunen, Rugewalde ; Altnutt C :titharina, Hamburg; Louise, Stralsund; Minerva, Ma r lager; Terza, Calingerseil ; Eucharis, Gothenburg; Maria, ;tralsund ; Elizabeth, Rostock ; Matrone, Horsens and Fact org ; Minerva, Christiania ; Marsala, Marsala and Malta ; Ludocy, Rostock; Dolphin, Gerlisborg ; Helena, 4 tarhuus ; Rapid, Odessa ; Rustad, Ni olgast ; Helene Ca r oline, Rostock ; Pomerania, Wolgast ; Frederick . and . A .ne, Bogense ; Dustava, Ystad ; Wilhelmina, Nyktobing , A nna, do. ; Eva, Stettin ; Royal George, Calcutta ; Gofein, St ,a; Rowallan, Batavia; QAiver, St. Michael 8 Blanche, Ji imaiea ; Karen Maria, Asserts ; Twende bo, slt, PA ego ; Neva Burhoven, Uddewalla, ; . 7.1 elbacka ; Hoffnung, Thisted ; Ex n u'burg • Tre pert j2elhatnneDantzic Mario, It enriette Kerstine, Skive ; Apollo, Got te uddew 'tiller • -'3l 'odre, do.; Touderflea, Arendahl ; 1 71 ' 'se, (iO. ; Ostsee, Demtzic.• ; C ar l o rte ° , PP ;o ' rderschleuse '; A fona, Struer ; De Tre Brodre, Stege. Na The Blanche, for ENTERED OUTWARDS FOR LOADING.—The . Mari: , Stella, M E . ibourne ; Accommodation, .Fleu.esn Afo l itax and Brest ; do Ja ' neiro ; Afightin, Mad ras- Driving Mist, cAlgQ.—Tle 1•1 •ptw a e , ter CL, r., - ra ) OVIITAIID4 Willi Hernosand ; Emanuel, Altona; Jas. N. Cooper, Bogte n e ; Storm King, Quebec : Thetis, Calcutta; Jonge Ker s " Dantzic ; Baltimore, Hobart Town. MALTA, April 22.—The Speculator Al exan dria fel: Queenstown, was assisted in here April 18, with lose rudder, &c., by the Zlef, Ottoman Government steamer, the commander of which has declined to accept eV r ed muneration. The Calcutta, Boston to London, which W 0 ashore near Burrington on the Bth inst., was afloat on the 12th, making but little water, and would return to BOW ° or *t. Jodi n's, VESSELS SPOKEN WITH. Mvh The America, from Southampton to Port Philip, 1, lat 2 N. long. 20 W. The De Nivergheid, from Liverpool to Hobart TO D, same day. 4 N., The Wellesley, Calcutt a t o L on d on , 7th, lat. 23 W. A ship, showing first di s ti ngu i s hi ng pendant, and 1,458, standing to the S.E. r ib The John S. Harris, from Cardiff to New Orleans, A P 13. hit. 50 N., long. 11 W. The Boadicea, of Gla sgow , b oun d t o Singapore, 17t12 ' hit. 49 N., long N. W. The Louvre, from St, John's, N. 8., to Australia, F eb* 11, lat. 24 S., long. 42 W. 11, The Brooksby, fro m Clyd e t o S an F ran cisco, Feb' lat. 32 S., long. 35 E. song, r eb. The Josiah Quincy, fr om N ew Y or k t o H o ng 21, long. 32 W. itaro b The T. J. Rog er, from Cardiff to New York, • lat. 50 N., lon g 17 W. The Cynthia, of Mobile, from New Orleans to Anat" lig4 Feb. 22, lat. 33 N. t The :vana, from City P o i n t t o A us t ra li a , 23d,1e • The Rock :way, from ew Orleans to Liverpool, . 0 • 1 ' 1, lat. 33 N.: long. 75 W. 15. The Harmunia, from New York to Clyde, The Time, from Bombay to Liverpool, .March 1, 36 W. • to 11° The Mary H. Kendall , of and from Philadelphia don, March - 29, lat. 44 N., long. 52 W. 6115 i st. The Finland. from Liverpool to Baltimore, AP 44 N., long. 64 W. March ,04 The Essex (brig), from Clyde to New York, March el Nantucket Shoals. 2d• ar ch The Carthage, o f an d f rom B oston, f or Australia, 21, lat 4 S , long. 34 W. • A clipper, wi t h bl ac k cross in her foretopsail, stee rin g March 24, lat. 40 N , long. 53 W. ril 6 ' AP The Falu iuu th (b r i g ) , of Nantucket, bound B. - - lat. 40 N., l ong . 67 W . asa The Bombay, o f Li ver pool, from the East In di e s, supplied with provisions. The Ruby (brig), March 26, lat. 1 N., long 18 Vi r ..a sr ob The City of B euares , f rom the Clyde to Calcutta, 0' 27, hit. 4 N., long. 18 W. A large ship, standing S W., second distinguishing P e e dant, No. 6,938, April 20, hit. 45 N., long. 11 W. The Bedlingtou (brig), April 21, lat. 47 N., 10ng.,; The Onward, bou n d t o Liverpool, April 14, lat. 5 1 long. 20 W. 1, The Simonds (ship), from St. John's, N.B , to Liirere ° March 29, lat. 43 N., long. 53 W. The Callender. fro m Li ver p oo l t o B oston, March 2 3,15 t" 46 N., long 23 W. The Tullock Castle, f rom C a ll ao t o Q ueens t ow n, Fe b ' 214 lat 32, long. 34. The Lowden (brig), bound W., lat. 58, long. 11. 13, Tne Cassandra, from Demerara to Liverpool, AP lat. 51, long. 16. The Conservator, of Liverpool, bound W., April 13, Ist ' 51 N., long. 13 W. Ao The Ganges (barque), bound W., April 16, lat. long. 12 W. The Ch , rtes, of J erse y, b oun d t o M e lb ourne, AV.'" 19, lat. 47 N., long. 10 W. 14 °' The Albino, fro m C a ll ao t o Cork, March 19, lat. long. 25 W. h 2 0 ' The Antipodes , from Fal mou th t o A us t ra li a , 3ferc lat. 11 S., long. 27 W. The Virneiro, ch 21, hit. 7S. lon. 29 W• The Osprey, from the Clyde to 'Port g Philip, ]ldaroh 8, lat. 4 N., long. 22 W. CO UN 7BY MARKETS. DERBY SMITHFIELD—APRIL 25. th o There was a less numb er o f f a t beasts to-day thanw has been for s e ve ra l y ears pas t. Hi g h prices were obtako itied o and a clearance easily effected. The supply of sheep A law an average, whi c h maintained last wee k' s p r i c es. b for number of lambs offered for sale, but few fat oli" r e slaughtering. The number of fat and store pigs W Fat and store calves pleutiful. Ott; 4. ,n The following were th o quo t a ti ons : — B ee f , 7d mutton, 62d to 7d ; lamb, 10d t o Od ; vea l , Od to Oa la lb. ; pigs, 9s 6d to 9s 9d per score ; rough fat, 6s 0 ,1 ,t ° ,, id per 141 b.; hides, 24d t o 3d per lb ; calf.skina, 31" per lb. EDINBI7RGII GRAIN. —APRIL 25. 11P. Wheat ea the top 2 8 d own , an d th e average 2s O d oats Barley on the top 2s Od, and the average Id, down• th• on the top Eld up, and the %wrap is 3d up. Beans on top 6d, and the Average is 3d, up. Total Supply and Sales. Wheat 640 qrs sold 462 Vs Barley 5.6 qrs sold 372 4 11 Oats 599 qrs sold 576 Or s Beans l7l qrs sold 128 Ore Od Top of Wheat ......... ... : . ............... 64 lb 87s T „ A Barley Oats Beans 684 lb 544 . u Average of whoat Z 3 18 4 2-12 tbs Ditto of Barley ' 2 4 8 5-12thi Ditto of Oats Ditto of Beans . ....... ....... . ... 2 10 5 11-1.2t111 BOSTON—Antm 25. Prices :—Wheat, red, 68s Od to 81s Od; white, 81s Odd 838 Od extra. 85s Od. Barley, 313 Od to 34s Od. Oa 24s t 3 325. Be ans , 46 s Od t o 53s 0(1. Peas, 42 s Od to 471 per qr. NEWARK—A rnrr, 25. There was a good attendance of farmers, and a plantlf o ti c supply of grain of all descriptions, with a heavy 0 10 vrheat. Spring corn was rather on the advance 011. Prices :—Wheat, white, 84s Oil to 88s Od ; rod, , 1 ; 12 to x6s Od. Barley, malting, 38a Od to 40a Od ; gr in " -- ds 33s Od to 35s 0(1. Oats, old, 33s 0(1 to 38s Od ; ne w n ' to Od i%o 31s Od. Beans, 50s Od to 60s Od. Peas, 50 . 3 "'6d. 52s I'M. Malt, 66s Od to 70s Od. Tares, 70s Od to 720 SEABORNE MAILS. ogli ce (N • jgh Vies that the mall, are sent from the Gederal Poet by th 7,1, ht —and 1 , 1 by the tnordiag--despatch.) cotrx RIEi in General Most- Office, London,* From tglin When Port Ott - W A I )Is,,ltene. E nßl'. Es, lEac lll4. America(bylif lt.pack) America (by Ui sited Sts packet) kmerfca (by U State:- packet) • • • • kustralfa (via Muth ampton) • • • ‘i Ditto (via 'I at seillea ') N Ditto (via Pape of oo e Rope) .. Afyiea ( West Coast) •, '3O of the month klexandria.......... 14 . 24. &30 of it, sth & 20th Of mon Bahamas ...... ,17th of the mom Belgium , atly Brazil 1211 01 the month Buenos Ayre5........ tti et he month.. ('ape of Good tioL , e If 1 - 1 m the im•nt Can , . of Good hope ..N la tit of the month. ~ .`ape de Vents 14 at or the moot' , eylon (see India) Ceylon ........N Channe' Ides China (see India) Constantinople Constantinople ~...... t;ont. of Europe M & N Egypt (see India) France ........ & N Gibraltar ........ - Greece (see India) Greytown & 'l7th of mon. Haniburgh Tuesdla y & Frida•. , Havannah At 2nd c.f the mont • Holland M, Dai1y............. Honduras 51157th c f the mont tt India (vlaSouthampt.)Ml4th & 20th of mw- In ila (via Marsef Iles)51 'Mb& 24th of mo lonian Isles (see fridi,ol7,„ v , ..a 27 of ' no . , Ireland M & k 4 l a iv a le e i ir ra a 1 :! 3 fon th n ... tn . Aaita (see India) s, '7.17,19.. 4, 30 ofm. :Nita .... ....• • • • Mauritius free India , I no of the month attratai •. • • •• • • 71KI of the month. aples N bthtt , th2Sthorm on New f Iranada & 170)(0 month New Zelland ........ pn , ate ship .. Papal :.4ate•• . - 14.11,',th2' thonnon M 1'41;1; 0128 thotm oti •-• Every Friday .. 7rfny 2 •....... lApril 25.... mav 4 \I ay 8 . !lit h of the moot 1510 tr „Wed ,BcFri , l led 17th of moot 7,5,1 7,21,3c27 m. 4th S s 20th of mo.. Twtc = daily ...... iTwicet daily ...... 14.7,17 ,20,270fn) 1 4th of the m ont) Peru • M & :7th of mon Tith 1 'tli2stho‘n Tu'canyion, t , :15 , - 25thoano r . • :%1 2d r 17th of it until I tion an, en% L u , tralizt) West . 7th r> Pnonth Liverpool Liverpool ;APril ~outhampton MAY 4 o q southampton MaY ;- Dover June * IPlymouth APrll6 !Dover ;* 9 9 }Southamp io, I ~ iAoutti,orior,.. loaf Dover Daily South:J.lp ~ 11111 Y 1",,, Plymoir •• Mare 26 ,Southampton 'April 26 i4outharnoton 1,•. Srnithaniptor, May , l amer Apr ° ID So o t v tt e h r am . y . t . o . o ., i Tif ,• ice d,, „,,, Dover ...• •. •Tifleed4lll Southampton Mat Aouthamptoi, May I London Southampton May I ,Dover ~,,,,,,hatonte,. May 1 6 IPlpn uth May 4 April 29 t , Dover • iiMS tied.° Twle,dailf motiampten May 6 ,40,1thunipioa May 16 Ply "eGuth April 6 April 29 April 16 , Collthan ki)!4 , glay !Dover 313 Y 2 i.'Southar n p tor, M n al ilm.• jV4riou s t vert 2 Lover 6 T l sk ; ISouthampu;. ..Aa " l' , outha t n pro!, I I ' 2 Dover Nr ; V; Dover 31a, ~ o utharnpton i,Southamp+ori May , -------------------- Wiles . 4 len , Lny to these l ate- tall o a info n ty 1" , the t.' 11 11* So on the following with the exception of the Indii• &mthampton), and the lialta, both of which will be despat,Che' day preceding. BIRTHS. , OF A SON. On the 24th inst. at Wollaston house, Northampton' shire, the iof C. Es On the 21st iust., :.t Millorlhouse, Derby, the wif e of G. H. Strutt, Esq. OF A DAUGHTER. On the Vd inst., at the Priory Cottage, Breada• the who of John finish, Esq. On tho 23d iust., at Oakley-lodge, Fulham , Mil' W. Wood. MARRIED. Queen . On tho 25Th inst., at St. George-the-Martyrt,, y. 1.0. square, G. M. Seaward, &wt., surgeon of the ►of Booibay Army, to Maria, daughter of R. Mosley , - c • 8 " Juha-street, Bedford-row. 1)r E D. On the 26th inst., at Charles-street, Bath, 31. r. S• I:itlit' aged u se, On the 2lth inst.. G. Nicholson, Esq., of gelton-ho North bill, Highgate, aged 61. 1 R. Oa the 24th iust., at Pembroke, Harriet, wife of "• o l Bryant, Esq., and (laughter of the late Lieutenant•Colou Lascelles, 66th Regiment. -, i•n_oton , On the 2 ,th i ns t., a t 17, Hi g hburpterrace , 11 " 3 • — • Edward Wigan, Esq , aged 70. YOUr , a , NDON: Printeru d and Publiq-ed IP t 4 1)13 ..c4„ 112, 0. of Strand, in the Precinct of the Savvy', the Mu" Misltllersex, Fritly,y, April 28, 185*. 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