The Sun. — London, England, 1863-07-17 00:00:00

T MRIAL PARLMIIMI HOUSE OF LORDS—Last Evening. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his meat on the woolsack at five o'clock. - - - NEW PEER. Lord SEYMOUR, son of the Duke of Somerset, took the oaths and his seat as a peer of the United Kingdom. His lordship was introduced by Lord Foley and Lord Ches terton. PRIVATE BUSINESS The Birmingham and Sutton Coalfield Railway, Hast ings Harbour, Wextord Free Bridge, London and North Western Railway ,new uranches), and the Kettering and Thrapstone Railway bills were read a third time and passed. PETITIONS. The Marquis of BATH presented a petition against the Irish Fisheries Bill. ALTERATION OF JUDGES CIRCUITS BILL. The LORD CHANCELLOR moved the second reading of this bill, the object of which was to enlarge the powers rf her Majesty in order that certain alterations might be made in the circuit of the judges. The bill was rendered necessary by the rearrangement that had been made in the duties of revising barristers. Lt)rd BROUG a AM. expressed his approval of the mea- su*e. The bill was then read a second time. FISEIERIES (IRELAND) BILL Lord S lAN LEY of ALDERLEY said Parliament had already given increased protection to the salmon fisheries of England and Scotland, and the object of the present bill, of which he moved the second reading, was to assimilate the law in Ire and, ag far as possible, with that of England. In the event of the bill passing the second reading be proposed to proceed with it in committee on Monday next, when he should be happy to consider ary alterations in the several clauses that n4ht be suggested. After a short discussion, the bill was read a second time. The Greenwich Hospital (Prevision for Widows) Bill, and the Metropolitan Main Drainage Extension Bi 1, were read a second time. Their lordships adjourned at cLtht o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS—Last Evening• The SPEAKER took the chair at 4 o'clock. GREAT WESTERN AMALGAMATION BILL. On consideration of the Lords' amendments to the Great Western, West Midland, and South Wales Railway Com panies Amalgamation Bill, Mr. D. GRIFFITHS moved that the house do disagree to new clause E, enforcing a revision of tolls whenever the dividend of the united company's stock shall equal or ex ceed 6 per cent. Mr. HODGSON sec nded the motion. Mr. MA3-EY supported the new clause. Mr. D. GRIFFITH withdrew his motion, and the Lords' amendments were agreed to. The f• llowingbills were read a third time :—Banff, Mac duff, and 'Tariff Extension Railway—Banff, Portsoy, and Strathisla Railway—Date Valley Railway—Hammer smith and City Railway--and Uxbridge and Rickruans w rth Railway. GREAT EASTERN RAILWAY (STEAMBOATS) BILL. On the order for the consideration of this bill, as amended by the House of Lords, Mr. A. EGERTON opposed the bill on the ground that it was not good public policy to permit railway companies to become steamboat proprietors in addition to their present responsibilities. In the past the house had repeatedly re fused granting such powers to railway companies. Here power was sought to run boats between Harwich, Flushing, and Antwerp. The subject should be referred to a select committee. He moved that the bill, be considered this day two months. Mr. WARNER seconded the motion. Capt. JERVIS supported the bill. The house had authorised the Great Eastern Railway to make a line to Harwich at a cost of £25,000, and surely it would be mots wrong to prevent th( m from bringing traffic to their line by means of a new and expedition, line of packets; (Hear, hear:) Other railway companies had been permitted to run boats, and there were the strongest reasons why the powers sought should be conferred upon this company. The transit of passengers and goods to the north of Europe would be materially cheapened, so that he was not surprised the General Steam Navigation Company opposed this bill in order to perpFtuate a monopoly. (Hear.) Lord STANLEY opposed the bill on the ground that it would establish a monopoly over the sea traffic, which might be worked at a loss so as to obtain traffic to this railwa It would be well to refer the matter to a select committee, and to take evidence upon the matter. Mr. WOODD, as chairman of the committee, said the company had made out a strong case to be allowed the powers sought, but he objected delegating to companies such extensive privileges. Mr. M. GIBSON said there were precedents for the granting of such powers as those sought by the bill. (Hear, hear.) As the select committee of both Houses of Parlia ment had approved of the bills, he did not think the house would do well to throw them out. No persons having established steam communication between Har wich and Rotterdam, were they willing to forego giving powers to a company willing to give the public that boon, because it was probable that in the future some person might come forward and seek power to do it? Sir H. CAIRNS denied that this was one of the excep tional cases in which powers to run steamboats should be granted, looking at the past practice of the house. The company might so arrange its railway and steamboat rates as to run off all other competing boat•. Mr. CLAY said there were no boats to be run off the route. Sir H. CAIRNS went on to contend that the commit tee had not put before the house sufficient evidence, as was usual in similar cases, to support the granting of the powers sought by the bill. After a few words from Mr. CRAWFORD, amidst cries o "divide," Mr. MASS FY said public rolicy was materially con cerned in this and sindlar m. asuros. If thev gave enormous and ambi'ious railway companies extra p as in this case they had no security that they would not virtually end '.w them with monopolies nimical to the public welfare. In this case the railway company would enjoy a virtual monopoly. The bill was not originated in that but the other house, the standing orders of which were not very strict with respeot to the introduction of such bills. Besides, the select committee had net, as stated by the hon. end learned gentleman opposite, adduced a suffi cient evidence why the house should accede to the bill. After a few words from Mr. HENLEY, Mr. COBBOLD, as connec , ed with the locality and its railways, warmly supported the bill. This bill had not been brought fo ward until every means had been taken to in duce existing stealer companies to put on a regular line of communication, one having existed for centuries. (Divide, divide.) Mr. LOCKE said the real question was whether the General Steam Navigation Company, which ran from the Thames and occupied a long time in the passage to Rotter dam, should have the monopoly instead of the new company. (Hear, hear.) Harwich was the natural port, and the shortest and quickest sea voyage. Mr. MALINS supp or t e d t h e bill . Sir H. BRU .•E said the subject was thoroughly investi gated by the committee, who heard counsel at great length on both aides: (Disidei d iv ide.) After a few word s fromlsr s - sa.; d M who trusted the h ouse would not acr unjus tly au t r o . the , pro moters after the great e xpense to which they the had The SPEAKER r ea d th e standing order of thedhobuseeen,paund said, according to his interpretation, they had not in this ge case been compli e d w i t h . He sug gested that the bill should be recommitted, with an instructio n s to the committee to state their reasons f or - approving they had not , done, an d which was of the bill, which to those orders. was imperative, according Ultimately the Proposition of th and the amendment withdrawn.e Speaker was adopt e d, LONDON, CHATHAM, AND DOV ER The further consider a ti on of this bill ' RAILWAY. was postponed till Monday. The Morayshire Railway and the North British (Steam boats) Bills were ordered to be recommitted. HOLYHEAD HARBOUR, Col. DUNNE gave notice that he would to -13 day) ask the n oble lord at th e head of the Majesty's G°ornment to-morrow (this whether it was the intention of herG overnment Go vernment to pay any attention to the report of th e H olyhead commit tee, tee, and that subsequ entl y he should bring the t subject be fore the house, THE t ONSTRUCTORS OF THE NAVY. Mr. FERRAND gave notice that he should on v Monda nest move for a return relative to the ages , services, Bof., of the two construe ors of the navy, and also with regard to the recent appointment of Mr. E. J. Reed, together will his qu. ,lifications as chief constructor of the navy. MISCELLANEOUS AND Cl VIL SERVICE ESTIMATES. Mr. MARSH gave notice that he should, on an early day next ses-ion, move a resolution that, in the r pmio% of ti,at house, the civil service and miscellan.fous estimates had b,:en increasing, were increasing, and ottiht to be re. duced. STAFF-SURGEON D. W. EATON. Mr. CONINGIIAIVI asked the Under-Secretary of State for War why Staff-Surgeon Deodatus Wm. Eaton was e is missed while on sick leave, after 18 years' service, 10 of which were in the Exit and West Indies, without any pre vi ins warning. with no charge assigned, nor with any op portunity of explanation before either a court of inquiry or a court-mar ial been granted, and why had the applications for it made by Mr. Eaton been ignored. The Marquis of HARTINGTON said it appeared that Mr. Eaton was insolvent in 1859 and bankrupt in 1862. It was the usual course, though not the invariable practice, when an officer had become bankrupt, and thereby avoided his pecuniary obligations, to consider such a person unfit to hold the Queen's comm'ssion, and he was generally re moved. in this case the circumstances that came out be fore the court were brought in the usual manner to the atten tion of the Secretary of State for War, the late Sir G. C Lewis, who, after examining all the facts of the ease, saw ne reason for deputing from the usual course. A court- outti,l wirthen consicierea unnecessary, as all the facts were estabtisr : e in the Bankruptcy Court. Etzl de Grey had been applied to, but he saw no reason why Sir G. C. Lewis's order should be revised. COUta-MARTIAL ON CORPORAL AKE. Mr. CONING HAM asked the noble lord i e would lay on the table of toe house the proceeding the court martial on Corporal Blake. The Marquis of HARUNGTON said VI , pipers at pre- sent were not in England. It was unusual to present the proceedings of regim. ntal courts-martial in India to Parlia• ment. If the finding of the court was correct, it would have a material bearing on Colonel Crawley's case Inquiries bad been sent to India to ascertain the taets, and for such wirnesses as could give evidence on Colonel Crawley's trial in this country to be sent home. FACTORY CHILI)REN AND STEAM-BOILERS. Mr. FER -AND asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he intended to introduce any legislative measure to place children employed in potteries and paper-tube factories under the protection of the Factory Act ; also, whe her his attention had been drawn to the grea, destruction of human life for many years by the con stant bursting of steam boilers, especially by one near Leeds a few days ago, where ten people were killed ; and it so, whether he did not think that steam .boilers ought to be placed under Government inspection. Mr. BRUCE (in the absence of Sir G. Grey) said it was not the intention of his right hon. friend Sir G. Grey to introduce any legislative measure with reference to those children. The evidence and the report of the cotemi , :sion had been so recently published, thar sufficient time had not been afforded for their consideration. They would be, however, considered during the recess, and then the right hon. gentleman would determine whether or not he would introduce a measure founded upon the recommen dations contained in the report. With respect to the lursting of boilers, no doubt every year a considerable sacri fice of life took place from it; but the hon. gentleman could hardly have considered, when he proposed to place them under Government inspection, what he was asking the Go vernment to do. Steam-boilers were scattered all over the c. entry, end they consisted of those used in manutactures, for locomotive, and also agricultural purposes. Inspection by Government was, to a considerable extent, a substitution of Government responsibility for private responsibility; and unless they were enabled to make a real and complete inspec tion, it was better not to attempt i 4 Colonel W. PATTEN asked if the hon. gentleman's ob , servatiens applied to the whole or part of the commissioners' report. He alluded to that part of the report which was more particularly interesting to Lancashire. Mr. BRUCE said his friend referred to the whole of the report. THE TYRONE ARTILLERY MILITIA. Mr. GETTY, in ihe absence of Major S. Knox, asked the Chief Sec eary for Ireland why toe Tyrone Artillery Militia w. s not allowed a practice pound, the shores of Lough Neagh being within reach, and suited to such a purpose; and why this regiment was not supplied with light field guns. Sir R. PEEL said the point was submitted to the War Department, but they declined to allow a pray ice .ground on account of the expense, The forts in the county of TyreLe were being demolished, and from its inland position it was considered unnecessary to continue the Tyrone Artillery Militia. As to the supply of light field guns, it was now limited to Armstrongs; and as nobody in the Tyrone Ar tillery Militia understood the working of them—(laughter) —it was thought unnecessary to supply them. THE CASE OF THE 1 OUNTESS DELLA. SETA v. LORD VERNON. Mr. HARVEY LEWIS asked whether the attention of the Lord Chancellor had been called to the case of the Countess Della S to v. Lord Vernon, heard before Vice- Chancellor Sir J. Stuart, and to the language and demea nour of the Vice-Chancellor to the counsel and others con cerned in the case; and if so, whether his lordship intended to take any steps to prevent a repetition of similar proceed ings. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL—In the absence of my learned friend (the Attorney-General) I have to answer the question, and perhaps the house will pardon me if I make a short statement of the circumstances of the case to which the question refers, and I hope the house will be satisfiea with the statement I am t.bout to make. The case came on in the ordinary way before Vice-Chancellor Stuart; but, before the nature of the case was explained to the court, it was stated to his honour by one of the learned counsel em ployed in the case that some young ladies, infants and wards of the court, were parties to the suit, and were not only very materially interested in a pecuniary point of view, but that their reputation would also be seriously affected by a discus sion in open court. It is the invariable practice of the Court of Chancery to take all possible precautions fee the protec tion of infants under its care—and it is right it should do so with or without the consent of theparties, and the practice has been indisputably established by the highest authorities. Here it was not necessary that that rightshould be exercised on the mere authority of the Vice .Chancellor, because, al though one party did object in one instance, and pressed his objection, the learned counsel, with that good judgment and feeling which I trust ordinarily distinguishes the counsel practising in all our courts, eventually waivea his opposi tion upon the representations made to him. The Vice-Chan cellor, therefore, in taking that eourse, acted in accordance with the usual practice, and 1 am authorised by the Lord Chancellor to say that the course which was taken meets hie thorough approval, as in all respects worthy of the duty of the judge and tne character of the individual who eau , cised that duty. The hon. member's question further refers to some other metters which subsequently occurred. The course then taken by the Vice-Chancellor in the discharge of his duty was very greatly misund , rst , ood—(hear)—by some persons concerned or not concerted in the cause— Mr. MA.LINS--Not concerned. (Hear, hear.) ' The SOLICITOR GENERAL—My hon. friend, who knows the circumstances, assures me that they wets not concerned in the cause; but, at all events, by some persons out of doors, who obtained information on the subject. The result was that there appeared in scree of the public jour nals a representation of the circumstances, involving the gravest. imputati on t h at could possibly be laid to the charge of a . judge, namely, th at out of respect to the position of a nobiemin be had departed from the ordinary and proper course in a court of law, and had, contrary to his duty, and tor the reason th ere stated, determined to hear the cause in privete, in order to shield an influential, powerful, and noble person from the possible exposure of circumstances which he desired to have concealed. Of course the house will understand that if any judge had been capable of acting he would have been unwrthy of the position which he held. (Hear.) . Now th a t c h arge is utterly ground!, ss and most calumnious—(cheers)—and muse out of an entire misappre hension of the circumstances. That imputation could not but affect the mind of a man of high honour taich as Vice- Chancellor Stuart. (Hear.) It was quite open and com petent for him, if he had thought fit, to deal with it is a grave contempt of court, and have brought th e p ar ti es b e . fore him. His honour, however, did not think fit to do so, and if in publicly adverting to those circumstances he may have been betrayed into some warmth of language, if the indignation, which must have been excited in the mind of b n a o e r f v b a o t n i a o n u a r : I c a a m m e q t u o s lips re a i n t d a itl n fl o ll t e n n e c c e e d a,, t a h r e y to f n o r e o ala f y his in o a me to vindicate him befor e this house. (Cheers.) CUPOLA SHIPS. Sir J. HAY asked the Secretary to the Admiralty if it was true that it was the intention of the Board of Admi ralty to try the cupola ships Royal Sovereign and Prince Albert without any masts at sea, or whether the tripod masts proposed by Captain Coles were to be adopted ? Lord C. PAGET replied that it was n - t the intention of the Admiralty to fit those vessels with masts. They were intended for harbour defences; but if sent to sea, tempo. BUDGET. rary masts might TH beE INDIAN fitteDdliAnNthem. In answer to Mr. BAZLEY, Sir C. WOOD intimated that he should make his financial statement on Thursday next. LANCASTER'S RIFLING OF FIELD ARTILLERY. Mr. H. LEWIS (for Mr, Bernal Osborne) asked the Under -Secretary of State for War if any steps were about to be taken for the application of Mr. Lancaster's system of smooth oval-bore rifling to field artillery ; and if the corre spondence and papers relating to it would be 1 tid before Parliament. Ala), when the report of the Ordaance Select Committee would be presented ; and if it was proposed to remunerate the gentlemen whose services were commended by the late secretary of State for War in reference to the subject. '1 he Marquis of HARTINGTON replied that it was not the intention of the Government to take any steps towards the application of Mr. Lancaster's system to the rifling of field artillery; and that the correspondence was so mixed up with other matters that it would Pe almost impossible to separate them. With regard to the other questio n, the re port o f the committee had been laid upon the table; but inasmuch as none of the ystems tried had been introduced into the service, it was not intended to remunerate the gen tlemen referred to. PUBLIC SCHOOLS COMMISSION. In reply to Mr. G. Dim", Mr. BRUCE said that the report of the Public Schools Commission Would probably be reivy next session. THE CASE OF CAPTAIN MELVILLE WHITE. In answer to Mr. HENNESSY, Mr. LAYARD stated that the case of Captain Melville White had been submitted for arbitration to the Senate of Hamburge office. , but he did no t k now whether they would accept th CO SIMERCIAL RESTRICTIONS AT NEW YORK. Mr. S. FI I ZGERALD gave notice that either on the report on supply, or on going into committee of Ways and means, he should ask the noble lord at the head of the Go vernment whether he was aware that, n otwilhatandin g the remonstrance of her Majesty's Government, the American Government still required bonds to be given by exporters of goods from Now York that no portion of them should reach the hands of persons in the Confederate States; and. if 80 , what course her Majesty's Government intended to take in the matter. THE MARGARET AND JESSIE. In reply to Mr. S. FITZGERALD, Mr. LAYARD stated that no further information had been received with regard to the case of the Margaret and Jessie. IRISH RECORDS. On the motion of going into committee of supply, Mr. MONSELL called attention to the unsatisfactory manner in which the Irish records were being coil( cted and translated, and moved for a return of the moneys voted for the purpose in the three countries. Colonel DUNNE supported the motion. Mr. F. PEEL defended the appointment of the calen _ _ _ derer, Mr. Mon in, who was selected upon the recommen dation of the Master of the Rolls—but he ' , greed with his hon and pliant friend opposite (Col. Dunne) that Mr. Morrin bad made a mistake in forgetting the maxim," Nr sutor ultra crepidam," and that it was certain comments which he bad introduced in the preface and notes to his cal, ndar that had caused all his trouble. He could, how ever, inform his right hon. friend teat a more suitable re cord office was about to be constructed in Dublin, and that the publication of Irish records upon a more extended plan was dependent upon► all the records being brought unde, one root. TotsomeGEN E B observations AL i r Ir e l a ft: d m , Mr. GEORGE and the AT i tt E er y. MONSELL withdrew his motion. BRAZIL. Mr. S. FITZGERALD, in calling attention to the pre sent relations of this country with Brazil, and especially to the recent rupture of diplomatic intercourse with that Go vernment, expressed his regret that the state of public busi ness should have compelled him to deter the mot:on so long. He was very sensible, looking to the state of the benches aria the period of the session, that he was acting rather in oppo sition to the wishes ot the house in bringing forward the question; but considering the important interests that were involved in the matter, he could not reconcile it with his duty to let the session pass without entering his protest against the position occupied by her Majesty's Government in their late transactions with Brazil, and calling attention to the probable consequences that might follow from it Some weeks had elaps. d since the Brazilian Minister at this Court had asked for his passports and surpended all diplo matic intercourse with this country. This in itself was an important event. It was the protest of a weak 1 ower against the conduct of a great and powerful State; it was the pto test of a country that was well aware that in material ie sources and in military and naval strength it was not in a position to measure strength with the Power with which it had a controversy, and it was a formal and open st ep iu the face of the world against the conduct ot a country which had acted in the spirit ..f oppression towards it. Brazil had adopted a course of policy which had won the respect of the other nations of the world. She had paid this country the compliment of having model!. d her institutions atter the English rn,del; and she had gained the confidence of the commercial world so much. that Englishmerchants directed their at tendon to trade wthßrazil as one of great importance. One of the consequences arising out of the policy of her Ma je,ty'sGo vernment towards th..t countrywould be to bring into power the party who were advene to English interests. He would dismiss from consideration all that had been said in former &bates about the contradictory statements about the wreck and plunder of the Prince of Wales, and would con fine himself to the course taken by her Majesty's Govern ment, and the proceedings of Mr. Christie. In the first place, he w'shed to call the attention ot the house to the fact hat it was the representative of this country at the Paris Conferences wbo proposed that, when a dispute arose be tween two Powers, recourse should be had to the arbitration of a third and impartial Power before resorting to arms. That was the proposal of the British Government at the Paris Conferences, and yet, with strange inconsistency, this country was the first to depart from it in the ease of Brazil; and the Under- Secretary for Foreign Affairs had in a former debate justified this departure on the grout d that this coun try, being the party offended, could not propose arbitration. and that the offer should come from the Brazilian Govern ment. He would now come to the instructions forwarded by Lord Russell to Mr. Christie with reference to arbitra tion, On the Bth October Lord Russell sent a despatch to Mr. Christie, instructing him to demand a sum of £5,500 for the goods destroyed, and £1,025 for freight. Bat ul'i comely the noble lord, having some misgivings arising from what had taken place at the Paris Conferences, s'-nt a second despatch on the 4th of November, in which he in. strutted Mr. Christie that, if arbitration was proposed by the Brazilian Government, he .vas to accept it. But al tt ough Mr. Christie was in possession of ahe two despatches —the second clearly superseding the first—yet, notwith standing this fact, he addressed a demand to the Brazilian Government based almost in the identical words of Lord Russell's first despatch. (Hear.) The Brazilian Govern ment declining to propose arbitration upon those terms, Mr Christie at length took the extreme course of instructing the English Admiral to have recourse to reprisals; and it was on the morning after the ships had been sent to make re prisals, and when the reprisals had actually been made, that Mr. Christie informed the Brazilian Government that would be necessary for him to take forcible measures for obtaining reparation. They had this fact before them that, although Mr. Christie was in possession of instruc tions which would enable him to get ont of the complica tions, still, so desirous was he of " reading a lesson to the Brazilian Government," to use his own words, that he had recourse to forcible measures. He thought it was a grave charge against the Government that, instead of censuring our representative at Brazil for keeping back his despatch, and thereby reading a lesson, as he said, to the Brazilians, they had supported him in all he had done. The only attempt at excuse on the part of Mr. Christie was that it had been necessary to keep secret his arrangements with the British Admiral, and how had he kept them secret 1' Why that the Brazilian Minister knew nothing of what had been intended until the British ships of war had actually been engaged in making reprisals end insulting the flag of the Brazilian Government. His next point was with n gard to the compensation for the the Prince of Wales, and there he wished to observe that he meant to say nothing against the Queen's Advocate (whose acquaintance he had the honour to possess), because he believed that the document that had been produced in his name could not have emanated from him, the rule being that the law officers of the Crown should never make public the opinions they were asked to give. He should like, however, to know what facts and documents had been placed before that learned gentleman when asked tor his opinion. He held in his hand the mani fest at the vessel in question, and he found that the claim stated by her Majesty's Government on behalf of Mr. Stevens at £5,500, came down to £3,0u0. Of that value he (Mr. Fitzgerald) had had the opinion of an eminent tuercha t in the Brazilian trade, that only about £BOO worth could ever have been got on shore. (Hear.) But the most extraordinary claim that was probably ever put forward, not only by the British Government bat by any reasonable beings under the sun, was a charge of £5lO for "possible murders." (Hear, hear.) I here had been no proot whatever that anybody had been murdered at all, and it was just as possible that there had been no murders; but, supposing there had, how had that particwar amount of damages been assessed ? The most curitus part of the business, however, and that, which, if it were not a very serious matter, would be positively ridicu lous, was the mode of distributing the money claimed should it have been paid. It might have been supposed that it should go to the relatives of the murdered men, but they were not known, nor was it known that any men had been murdered Strangely enough, the whole of the money -vas proposed to be divided amongst those who had suffered by the wreck. Hear) Unless something was done to smooth down the oifficulties, he feared that the distress in the north would be greatly aggravated by the crippling of our com merce with Brazil ; and therefore he was aexious for her Majesty's Government to take some course that would lead to the renewal of friencly relations with that country. He suggested that the same conciliatory conduct should be putt sued towards Brazil that had been adopted tuwarus Para guay; but he was afraid the secret of the matter was that her Majesty's Government could afford to bully at It io, when it was too expensive to do so at Paraguay. Were, however, her Majesty's Government to change that spirit of hostility that had for years past actuated their conduct towards Brazil, it would be more becoming, more advanta geous, and, he ventured to think, more honourable to the character of the country. He charged the noble lord at the head of the Government with being more responsible then any other person for that spirit of hostility towards Brazil. The Aberdeen Act was a great mistahe, and ought to be repealed. And Lord Aberdeen, before his death, regretted that he had ever consented to its passing, and hail expresso d a hope that it would be repealed, But what was the noble P r A. I L T M z E G TL E lord's p os i t i on with regard to that Act with Brazil ? Depu tation after d ei . utat i on had waited upon the noble lord with S R T A . O L N D — s N a o d reference to it. Lord Mr. S. he had been informed so by a gentleman who had waited upon the noble lord. Lord PA.LMERSTON—When ? Mr. S. FITZGERALD said he was unable to state when. He would make in • qu o p• es, and if wrong he would give the noble lord the advantage of it. He h c urged the Govern ment with acting in a more hostile spirit toward s B raz il than they had towa r d s S pain for g " obliga tions with regard to th e slave trade. Spain had tlng treaty morn y on the distinct stip u l ation that ithlhould received at the slave trade. The hon. gentleman charged Earl p Russell down wi th having written to Brazil w i t hi n a week after the forcement of reprisals, one of the bitterest despatches, with reference to liberating negroes in the Brazils. which his lordship, with his very bitter pen, had ever written. In +act, that despatch was very much in the spirit of two old women quarrelling- the one having the last word, raking up all she could collect for years past, and throwing the most bitter scandal she could find against her opp onent. r nment had the means of m a ki ng ad- Her Majesty's Go ve razz inn government, and h e h ad va nces towards the B -g reason to believe they wo uld be favourably received ; an d if they repealed the Aberdeen act nothing would give mor e satisfaction to the Brazilian people. He hoped her Ma jesty's Government would not proceed as they had done, 'anctioning conduct that was adverse and contrary to what they had riven, and enforcing demands w t ich were in them selves ridiculous and absurd, but do their best to renew tuose relations with Brazil which had existed for so many years to the honour of toe country. He moved formally for copy of the manifest of the barque Prince of Wales. Mr. LAYARD said he did not clearly understand what object his hon, friend had in view in bringing the subject of . Brazil aga i n before the house. The question h a d b ee n d lammed - and amply ventilated in the house and in another place on many occasions. They had heard from the hon g e ntleman very great words. He had talked about t to lle th de ov s e G and di s h onour of the country , and had applied Government every term of reproach; but he • Layard) should confess- • . . _ that when he saw a question in; THE SUN, LONDON, FRIDAY EVIIINING, JULY 17, 1863 which the honour and cl , gnity of the country were concerned di icussed in so small a house as that before him, he felt some misgiving, as to their being any justificaion for thr strong expression of opinion which had fallen from his hon. friend. (Hear, hear.) He repeated that he was au a loss to understand the object of the diseursion, unless it was that the hon. gentleman wished the country to understand what be and his friends would have done inid they been in the position of the Government; that, althourh a British ship was wrt eked on a foreign coast, its cargo plundered, its crew murdered, and redress refused, they would remain idle, and do nothing for the protection of the property and lives of British subjects. ('' Hear, hear," with cries of "No, no" from the Opposition.) He should confess that the Govern- went which now held office was not inclined to adopt that view of their duty—(hear)—and they were not prepared to admit • hat a foreign Government was not responsible for outrages perpetrated en its coast by its own subjects. (Hear, hear.) And such was unquestionably the case in this in stance. (Hear, hear, and No, no, from the Opposition.) He stated positively that that was the case, and he defied any gentleman who had read the papers to say that a moral doubt could be entertained with regard to the murder of the crew. He admitted that there were not legal proofs of the facts, but that there was any morel doubt as to them he en tirely denied. (Hear, hear.) The hon. gentleman alleged that tee ship went down at her anchors. But where was the evidence of that ? The probl was all the other way. The hon. gentleman forgot that not only was the ship Steli several days atter the wreck, but that three boats and their oars had been found on the shore, and Admiral Warren was of ep'nion from their position that they must nave used them several times in bt inging goods from the vessel. But it' it were true that the ehfp went down at her anchors, howdid the hon. gentleman explain the findieg of barrels of nails onshore —still more the condition of the Manchester goods which were found unwet and unr , amaged by sea water ? (Hear ) If the object of the hon. gentlemen were not, as he hail already said, to show what be ana his friends would have done under the circumstances, it might be that it was to em bat rass lair Majesty's Government and injure British inte rest in Sou h America. if that were nis object he had suc ceeded. He had embarrassed her Majesty's Government in dealing with the States of S uth America, and had jeopar dised Biitish interests there to a very great even,. Already a great change had taken place in their tone as well as that of Brazil, and fur this the country was indebted to the hon, gentleman and his friends. The case of Paraguay showed that the Government did not desire to treat those matters with a high hand, and it Brazil had but imitated the example of that State, the difficulty which was now complained of would never have arisen. In regard to the compensation awarded, the usual course had been adopt. d, on the Brazilian Government refusing to inquire into the circumstances, of referring it to the Queen's Advccete, and although his Ma jesty the King of the Belgians had decided that no insult was intended in the vase of the imprisonment of the Forte, yet no one could deny that their treatment of the officers was - of a gross nature, and that if the admiral had not protewed against it he would have been negligent in his duty. The hon. member next proceeded to rebut the accusation that no sufficient warning had been given to the Brazilian G,ivern ment of our intention to make reprisals, by reading extracts from the correspondence to show that Mr. Christie had given if not publicly, ce r t a i n l y i n pr i va te, the amplest n o ti ce to the Brazilian Mi n i s t er, that. Admiral Warren had received instructions to make reprisals, although in the manner least offensive to the Brazilian Government. In the next place, he referred to the 'ct known as the "Aberdeen Act," reed asserted that no measure had ever done so much for . he sup pression of the slave trade. No doubt it was a very extreme measure; but in declaring that all Brazilian vessels engaged in the slave trade were to be dealt with as engaged in piracy, it merely ratified the articles of the treaty between the twocountries. And, moreover, he would remind the hon. gentleman opposite that the act received the warm support of Sir F, Thesiger, of Sir R. Peel, and other dis tinguished members of the Conservarive party. He himself most earnestly desired the re-establishment of amicable re lations between England and Brazil; but he must say, if they were to be re - established, it was not by the course taken by the hon. member. Tne hon. member must be aware that the King o f P ortugal had offered to me di ate b e t ween the two countries, and tha.. England had accepted the offer. If, howev er , t h ose good services were t o b e ren d ere d unavailing, the h on. member had on l y to p erse v ere i n hi s present course, and his object would be gained. In conclu sion, he asserted his belief that if ever again the British Go vernment found itself placed in similar circumstances, its duty would be to follow precisely the same course as upon this occasion. (Hear, hear,) Sir H. CAIRNS pointed out that the question before the house was by no means the same as that upon a tormer evening; nevertheless, the Under Secretary for Foreign Af fairs had endeavoured to revert to the previous discussion. He had come to the conclusion that the rude and contemp tuous tone pervading the correspondence of our Minister could only have led to the creation of a bad fe ling between the two countries. Thehme. and learned member then asked, was it becoming that the Under Secretary should hold such language, and reiterate the accusations against the Brazi lian Government aiter the whole matter had been submit ted to the award of the King of the Belgians, and after that award had been made? He now came to another point, for Lord Russel], after the rupture, addressed a circular, which was on the table of the heuce, explaining the reasons which had led to it, and stating it was a mistake to suppose that there were not other outstand ng claims besides the Prince of Wales. There had been various claims on Brazil on the part of British merchants ; and, on the other hand, ttterehad been several claims made on this country by individuals in Brazil which were pressed ou the Foreign-office by the to have the c l a i ms on b ot h Brazilian G overnme nt ; these claims arisin g un d er t h e Aberdeen Act and the Admiralty Court. In the year 1857- 58 Lord Cl aren d on proposed sides referred to a mixed commission composed of Brazilians and British subjects; and the convention recited that all claims remai n i n g uneettlee in the opinion of either Govern went should be referred to the commission. But whil e th e a i n informed M r . S car l ett, the Eng lish them that he h a d commission was conside rin g t he claims (here being S i British claims Minister a awlt Rio 108 Janeiro,B r zili received a despatch trom home directing him to tu , p nd 'he further sitting of the commission. He believed that this act of the English Government had d one grea t i n j ury to in several commercial men this c untry, for, if the commis- sh i n had not been broken up before its natural time of ex. g o about p ß a r r a a z .n i o l ti ; for, to t th e l e t h sv o r u o g n la g h dune,w asst still t i piration, their claims would be settled and the money paid. He was not surprisedthe G G i o rv v e7 rn m m e e n li t t s h h a o d u n ld ot b s e h unwilling with sheme and regret upon to have discu i s n si m ena in b c opinion ni de t r h ng a ,3: i t th eav ußrazil ian io „king id every step taken by the Government of this country in their negotiations with the Government of Brazil. The SOLICITOR GENERAL said there were two dis tinct subjects introduced into the p resen t di scussion; and with regard to that one whi ch had been the subject of de bate on a former occasi n, the hon. and learned gentleman who had last spoken expressed his opinion, while objecting to the form in which it hid been done, that there had been sufficient cense for this Government to exact redress from the Governneeet f Brazil. But the hon. member for Hor sham, in spite of all that had taken piece, and in the teeth of the evidence produced by Brazil itself, and the confes sion of Brazilian agents, felt it his duty to come down to that house and state publicly that the vessel had not been sacked, while Brazil confessed it had been. (Heir, hear.) made at the Paris Conferences with regard to arbitration : but on the Bth October Lord Russell wrote to say that if the principle of responsibility were admitted by Brazil, Mr. Christie was to accep t it. Mr . hristie t o ld th e B raz i l i an Government that it w as n e t t he British Government w h o dtheemasnudmes claimed by Mr. Stephens, th e o wner o f th e ves sel. the 500 and the £1,025 , b ut that these were Mr, Christie stated that her kajesty's Government were willing to have these claims and the whole que s ti on referred ; but in point of tact it was the Brazilian Govern ment objectedeson to arbitration, and re f use d to admit the principle who of r sibility. (Cheers.) Th e h on, an d learned gentleman then proceeded to say that after ;he peremptory ultimatum of the Brazilian G 'veil:meat, the admiral had no option but to make the reprisals in the manner that had been adopted, and that to say these reprisals were taken in an unreasonable or improper way was moat inexplicable. It had been said that war had been made against Brazil. but in fact all reprisals were pro lane° war on a small scale. But with regard to the amount demanded, he thought it had been made at a very moderate rate. The proposed method of appropriating the money when received he con sidered very reasonable, seeing that it was not known which of the crew had been murdered and which had not. The hon, and learned gentleman then referred to the con vention between the British and Brazilian Governments, and contended that the whole of the prop , -edings of the British Government had been not only proper in them selves, but strictly in accordance with the terms of the con vention. If there had ben any bad faith shown it had been on the side of Brazil and not of Great Britain. Lord Aberdeen had -aid that the treaty had been, with but few exceptions, systematically violated from the time of its conclusion up to 'he period when he spoke. British officers, his lordship said, were maltreated and assassinated whilst in the execution of their duty ; and justice, if not openly denied, had rarely fairly been granted by the Bra. zilian Government. lie contended that her Maje-ty's Government had acted in a pi oper and becoming manner in every particular. Mr, HENLEY doubted if the Government had acted wisely in bringing to light again the bad practices of the Brazilian Government. Such conduct was not likely to bring about friendly relations between the two countries He was sorry to hear the remarks of the Under-Secretary of Stare for Foreign Affairs, and the Solicitor-General, re lative to the arbitration of the liarg o the Belgians, that the English naval officers had been harshly used by the Brazilian Government, according to the lawsof that country. The SOLICITOR-GENEttAL said her Majesty's Go vernment accepted the arbitration, and were of opinion that no offence was intended by the Brazilian Government to the British navy. Mr. HENLEY said it was to be regretted these disputes had arisen, and he was afraid the discussion would have the effect of irritating rather than conciliating the Brazilian overnment. Mr. M. MILNES defended the conduct of Mr. Christie n his dealing with the Brazilian Government. and con tended that every allowance should be made for one eo de licately situated as he had been at Rio. (Rear.) Mr. B. MOORE, on the other hand, again impugned the - _ conduct of Mr. Christie,' and denied that the address, Which had been presented to him, represented the wealth, i❑telligence, or majority of the Britith merchants resident at Rio. He repeated his belief that the crew of the Prince of Wales had never been murdered, in-tsmuch as, fritm thi nature of the coast, it was impossible from them to have reached the shore alive, and condemned the mode in which the reprisals had been made. The subject then dropped. THE LICENSING SYST M Mr. LAW SON moved tit. following resolution:" That, in the opinion of this house, the laws under which licenses are granted for the sale of intoxicating liquors ara emi nently un►atisfactory and deficient in power to protect th, public, r.nd therefore require immediate alteration." The CHANCELLOR, of the EXCHEQUER opposed the motion, on the ground that no advantage could arise from discussing the question at this period of the session— and also upon the ground that it was always objectionable to pass abstract resolutions. Mr. NEWDEGATE said that from his experience as a magistrate, he could state that there was no question up 43 which there was a greater a ncurrence of (Onion, that the liceasing system should be revised. With t espect to the reduction sail to have taken place in the consumption of spirituous liquors he feared it was more owing to the d s tress prevailing in the manufacturing districts than to any increase in habits of temperance amongst the working classes. Lord FE itilloY thought the hon. gentleman wh t pro. posed the resolution deserved credit for his good intentions, but that be was going the wrong way to carry them out He (Lord Ftraloy) was for free trade upon the general principle, but not in licenses. It was a mistake to suppose that publioans as a body were in favour of drunkenness Drunkards were the great cause of their prosecutions and penalties, and working men only resorted to public- hou-es because they had no sources of popular recreation such as w,re provided by f, reign gov , rnments. That was the main reason why there was more intemperance iu England than abroad. Mr. W. E. FORS'I ER hoped the hon. gentleman would not press the resolution, because he should h•.ve to vote tor i', whereas he thought it was a matter which the Govern wen, should take up in some comprehensive measure ro as to improve the present highly unsatisfactory system of li censing. Atter a few words from Sir P. O'BRIEN, The house divided— For the resolution Against it Majority against reso ution THE NA."I lONAL GALLERY Mr. C. BEN TINCK called attention to a recent purchase for 600 guineas by the trustees of the National Gallery, and asked the First Lord of the Treasury wuether it was not desirable to discoL tinue the practice of acquiring at a high price pictures which wtre not authentic works of the mas ters to whom they were attributed, and which were in a damaged condition. Mr. PEEL defended the purchase, and stated that there could be no doubt the picture was painted by Bellini. Mr. CONINGHAM. condemned the purchase, and aleo the mode in which all such transactions were managed on the part of the National Gallery. The subject then dropped, and the house went into com mit tee of supply pro forma. Tno Fort►fications (Provisions for Expenses) Bill was read a third time and passed. The Union Relief Aid Acts Continuance Bill was consi dered as amenued, and agreed to. The Nuisances Removal Act (1855) Amendment Bill was read a third time and passed. Several bills were advanced a stage, and the house ad journed. INDIA, CHINA, AND AUSTRALIA. By the arrival of the Calcutta mail we have re ceived our private correspondence and files of papers from Calcutta to the &la of June; Hongkong, to the 30th of May; Melbourne to May 26 h; S ) dney to May 21st ; and Auckland to April 30th. The summary of the Calcutta Englishman of the B'll of June says :---" It is with considerable satis faction that we notice the steps taken by the Bengal Government to render the coming Agricultural Ex hibition worthy of the really rich resources of this province, and we are certain that, in view of the list of prizes, English agri cultural imp'ement makers will take oars that a fair representation of their manufactures be made in a country where the introduction of such is a matter of almost vital importance, and where they would be so readily received. The na tives have already entered into the spirit of the in tentions of the Bengal Government, and the wealthy, landowners have aiwaysevinced too great an inclina tion to avail themselves of any English invention likely to yield profitable results to render it at all doubtful that any implements adapted for . Indisn agriculture would not be eagerly sought after. 0 ccurse, the mere pecuniary value of the prizes would be no inducement to the home manufacturer. for they are necessarily comparatively small, but recent Continental Ex hibiions and their results have shown us that a desire for large money prizes is not the spirit in which the well-known implement makers of England have sought a means of spreading their useful fame over the world. In this ca , e, as in the others, there are honour and credit to be won, but there is also what is by no means to be despised—a fair prospect of tutimate profit." On June the Ist a flock of locusts passed over li , neegungee. It was about a mile in breadth—is way have been more—and perhaps two or three miles in length. The old cantonment was covered with them, but by far the greatest portion did not alight. but remained at a considerable elevation, gyrating in dense columns resembling waterspouts. As the flock moved forward these living gyratory n.asses assumed the appearance of clouds, and then disap geared in the distance. The flock was not suffi ciently thick to throw a deep shade, but the myriads of these destructive little insects moving in the air c4used a very palpable diminution of the intense glare and sunshine which prevailed immediately before their appearance and after their disappear ance. CHINA. (From the Times' Correspondent.) HONG K. , NO, Mdy 30. The critical posture of affsirs in JApan continues to excite the deepest interest among foreigners. Ni, apparent progress has been made by the Japanese since last mail in meeting the demands of the Bri tish representative, but be has granted a fur. her delay of 10 days (which expired on the 21st), and no one would be astonished if even more time were conceded; for at Yokohama, on the 13th inst., there seemed to be a growing conviction that the Tycoon would not object himself to attack Prince Satsuma, if assured of British support. It. is so mani festly his interest to humble the turbulent Daimios, who at present hold the balance of power between him and the Mikado, that nothing is more probable than a strong disposition on the part of the Tycoon to extricate himself thus from a very embarrassing and dangerous dilemma. Application for 1,000 men to strengthen the Btitish force had been made to General Brown; but be did not, as it appears, consider himself justified in meeting the requisi tion, although the departure of her Msjest3's 31st Regiment from Shanghai was countermanded. At Yokohama, on the above d, te, the extreme excite ment of the previous week among foreigners hod somewhat abated ; but at Nagasaki, from which the latest dates are also of the 13th inst., the Governor had given notice to the foreign residents generally that he would be unable to protect them in the event of hostilities, and the alarm was so great that many of them had lett the place. COMMERCIAL INTELLIGENCE. Transactions in imports during the fortnight have been to a tair extent. The s4les given below are for native con sumption, but a far larger quantity has been taken by foreigners for re-export to the Straits and India. At Clinton very little has been done. Sales at both places are as fol lows : Cotton—Bombay, 271 bales sold at Canton. Stock, 129 bales. AIIS rRAL lA. NEW SUU CH WALES. The Sydney Morning Herald of May 21 contains the following :—" It is generally understood that Parliament, will be summoned for the despatch of business about the 23d of next month, but the event does not seem to be looked forward to with much interest by the public. The fact is to be attributed to the absence of any suhj-cts at present exciting the public mind, such extensive concessions having been made to popmar demands that there is little left to agitate for." NEW ZEALAND. Both the correspondence and the summary of news of the Southern Cross of the 30th of April state that the worst textures of the Waikato in telligecce are conti.med Rewi and Kingi have returned to the Waikato, where they are actively er gagid organizing armed opposition to law and order. Their followers have gone to the south, to the num )er of saveral htindred—sume say 200, others 300, ard others again state that Rewi started at the .1.-ad of 500. We do nor, therefore, know the exact numbers, but our information leads us to conclude that 300 is about the 'ruth. The native educational and industrial ,stablishment at Te Awurnutu has been broken up, and the European women and children have already come to town. The missionaries most likely will come in ; in fact, it is only a question of events, as )ews may come any moment of an outbreak at l'aranaki, when it would not be safe to remain un protected amt ng the Waikatos. The natives are in a state of unbridled anarchy. There is no control ling power to check them ; and such being the case, one can readily perceive the difficu.ties that sur ound the movement for reinstating the Taranaki settlers on their former holdings. Tne professions of friendship vc hich Thompson and some other chiefs make are of little use; and we see no pro htbie end lo the present state of things unless B.itish law end authority are estbb.islitd Ihrougli out the island, or until the natives shall have ceased to exercise any political influence owng to their natural decrease." The Taranaki Herald of the Brh of May contain s the details of t. e tnurcer of two officers and eight men of the 67th Regiment :—'• A party of the Com rnissatiat Transport Corps, with two drays and 12 bullocks with supplies, were on their way to T taraimaka, on the 4th of M y. and, having erossei the Oukura river, heard the report of a volley of small arms and saw the smoke of the piece some heft mile before them. They saw that a party 01 soldiers and two horsemen, who proved to be (All cers, were attacked, and saw some of them fall, when they immediately abandoneo their carts, and hastened back to the Poutoko, and gave information of what they had seen. Captain Shortt, with a party of 30 a en only, from the Redoubt at Poutoko were the first to al rive at the spot, followed &tort ly afterwards by Colonel Warre, and it was their mournful task to gather the bodies of the follow ing officers and n en, savagely murdered : Assistant •Surgeon W. A. Hope, M.B. Lieutenant T. H. Tragett, 57th Regiment. Colour-Sergeant Samuel Ellers, 57th Regiment. Serge ,nt Samuel Hill, 57ta Regiment. Private Edward Kelly, 57th Regiment. Private John Flynn, 57rh Regiment Private Bartholomew Macarthy, 57th Regiment. Private Wm Banks, 57th Regiment. They were on their way, on military duty, to town from Tataraimaka, and apparently had been shot down without a moment's notice. The bodies were all horribly mutilated, and those of the officers stripped of nearly all their clothes. One of the drays was found where the escort had left it, but the other, which contained a quantity of flour, potatoes, and groceries, had been driven off. The other dray was subsequently seen being driven up to Kaitake, on the spur of the ranges. Dr. Hope's horse tad gallopped towards town, and was caught by the escort. This fearful tragedy cast a deep gloom over the wnole settlement. SPIRIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURNALS. TIMES.—Tne tone of the debates on the differences between this country and Br- , zil must make the Government aware of a very widespread feeling of regret at the rupture and of desire for reconcilia ;ion. The more the events which led to the present -uspension of relations are considered, the more Plain it is that, whatever faults may have been com mitted by the Brazilian Government, our own hae, to say the least, exacted quite enough compensation and ieflicted quite enougn indignity. In the present wet-k the ques ion has been discussed both in the Lordsand Commons with almost identical arguments on either side. On Tuesday evening Lord Cheime ford cleverly exposed what we may almost call the extortion of the demands connected with the wreck of the Prince of We es, and last night Mr. S. Fi z gerald went over the same ground, and added cir cumstances which confirm the view which Lord Chelmsford took of the affair. It is wearisome to enter into the details of this miserable transaction, but when we find that a friendly Government has been compelled by force of arm.; to pay a b ood fi, t or p , rsons who may only " possibly" have beet murdered, and when it is perfectly clear that the value of the cargo appropriated by the wreckers has been sctndaleuely exaggerated to the bent fit of pri vate persons, common morality and regard for the credit of toe country bid as pay attention to the facts that are brought to our notice. The stoty may be told in a few words. The Prince of Wales was a vessel laden with a mixed cargo, of which the invoice value was :3,500, according to Lort Chelmsford ; Mr. Fitzgerald makes it only £3,000. The cargo was made up of coal, kegs of nails, iron castings, barrels of beer, seamen's chests, and some soda. The ship was anchored three miles from the shore, and in all probability went down at ber an chorage. We leave it to our readers to compute how much of such a cargo reached the shore to be plundered by the wreckers. That some of the chests were washed ashore and seen broken open is the chief evidence that there was any wrecking at all. But when it w- a known that there was to be com pensation the shippers came forward at once with s modest demand for £5,000; and, though Mr. Fitz gerald tells us that, accoroing to an eminent mer chant well acquainted with such matters, only packages of light goods to the value of £BlO could have came ashore at all, yet the Queen's Advocate, an officer whom the Foreign-office seems to think endowed with omniscience, " roughly" estimated the proper comp-nsation at £2,36 Besides ibis, the sum of £B4O was demanded as comp. nsation for the murder of the crew, though it is admitted there is no legal proof of their hating been murders d at all, the reports current on the subject being the chief evidence on which the Queen's Advocate c me to the conclusion that several of them bed been "too proba bly murdered." Although this claim wes not urge° in the first piece, a demand was meth , for £B4O for flat possible murder "of the n en. Now, though it is undoubtedly ih,. duty of the Government to watch over the lives and property of British sutj- ors In foreign parts, it must strike every unprejuoiced person that these demands were based on very no -übstantial grounds, and enforced with a rigour sel dom employed to a friendly Government. It is not pretended that the Brazilian Governmen was guilty of more than delay in giving satisfaction, and this fault was sufficiently punished by the reprisals to which our Government resorted. Wnen the Em peror's Government yielded, it would have beet. courteous , o restrict the money demand wishit moderate limits, instead of taking the opportunity to make questionable charges. The defence of this part of the transaction made by Lord Russell or l'uesday night is singular enough. Tne very sub mission of the Brazilians is attributed to them as a fault, " When the Brazilian Government threw it upon the British Government to make this inquiry lone, saying that they would pay whatever sum tie oemireded, they pi, cal us in a post ion of concede table difficulty, because we had no one on the other side to dispute the various it. ms." Fancy an attorney eefending an extortionate bill on the ground that the victim neglected to have it taxen ! No one can believe that the Emperor 'really desires to encourage wreckers, or to murder the crews of the ships whist supply his country with every European article of use or luxury, and in return take away the pro ducts of his teeming soil. Let us therefore hope that there will be no opposition on the part of our Government to ate honourable renewal of friendly relations. The King of Portugal has offered his good (Zees, and as there is really no longer any question in dispute, there can be no obstacle to a good understanding. It will then be for the Minis ters who shall be appointed by the two countries to maietain the harmony which this mediation has re stored. POST.—We do not agree with those politicians who think that a member of Parliament's dinner is of no consequence. Sir John Trelawny and Mr. Osborne evidently entertain a transcendental idea or the duties of Parliamentary life As in the Apo cryphal narrative of Bel and the Dragon, this divi troy • of a statesman should never be seen to eat , bu t unlike the idol, on the otner hand, neither should here be any preparation made for him. He is pre sumed to live on nectar and ambrosia somewhere, but not within the ken of ordinary mortals, and any discussion as to what he should eat and drink is deemed to be equally derogatory to his great posi tion, his lofty intellect, and his immortal soul. It he appeals, in the person of Mr. Dillwyn, to the hardship of being compelled to eat bad meat ill cooked and worse served, he is told that be takes a low view of political life. We presume, of course, hat Sir John Trelawny and Mr. Osborne never dine anywhere. That is certainly the obvious deduction, from their speeches on Wednesday, whin the pro poeal of a select committee for the enlargement of the kitchen and refreshment rooms was brought before the House of Commons. In our judgment, the grievance that is complained of is well founded—whatever may be the best remedy. It is, in truth, a grievance on which twenty other grievances depend. The complaint is, that there is no adequate accommodation for dinner, and that the provlstons also are bad. Now, during tout nights every week, the. house si's from four in the afternoon (when there are no morning sittings) often until midnight, and sometimes till two a.tn; Of course, members of Parliament must dine in the in terval; or, it they were to maintain the old fashion of dining before the House met, (here would be an equal necessity of sup ) ing. However, there is an established usage of dining at seven or eight o'clock.: in London, and established usages are not readily invaded. At that time half the House, or probably three-fourths, go to dinner. The result is that, from seven to ten, little progress is made in the debate of the evening, although the " House" still drags on its weary length. Members who cannot get dinner decently served in the refreshment room of :tie House of Commons, go to their clubs or their homes, or dine with friends. The distance may be mile, two miles, or three. If the parsimonious opponents of the present proposed reform send them to that dis:ance for their dinners, it is not reason able to expect their return to tee House under zL couple of hours at least. Now all this is so much, ima lost in legislation. HERALD —Lord Russell, who refuses to recognise :he Soto), or to advise an armist cc, or to interpose it. any way in the great Arredcan conflict by which we are suffering so severely, has ac.ualiy asked an armistice for tie Poles, has addressed to Russia. what might almost be called a threatening letter on heir behalf, has all but r,cogniard th,m, nod h-s 'set red for their sake no trifling risk of an Euro pean conflagration. Where shall we seek a more striking con:rest between one Minister and anott?er hen exists bet .veep the Minister of inaction lei America and the Minister of interposition Poland ? the Minister who will not stir a fiuger . o protect the dearest interests and revive the most valuable trade of Great Britain, and him who is ready to assist in kindlin g the flame of oonii ,,,ntal war for a eau , -e in which we have absolutely no interest whatever ? the Minister wno spurns the appeal of our kinsmen, fellow Christians, all but tellow•country men of the S ,uthern States, and the Minister who does everything short of declaring war upon Russia for the behoof of a few housand insurgents of a race " alien in blood, in language, in religion ; " the statesman who thinks ',oinie g o f t h e tisk of a war between Russia, France, and Prussia, ending in the annexa tion of the left bank of the Rhine, and hesitates not to enter on a policy of which this is tilt the natural and foreseen conclusion, and the statesman whose scrupulous conscience shudders at the bare possibi lity of a war, which, if it came at all, would be ended in a few weeks, between France and Eng land on the one hand, and such remnants as still cohere of the Federal Union on the other ? Furious towards Brazil, a coward before the Yankees, an triguer in Italy, a Kingmaker in Greece, a would be arbitrator in Poland, but in America the advo• cate of a policy of isolation unparalleled in selfishness, meanness, and timf.dity ' • a braggart to Senhor Moreira, a blusterer to the Tycoon, but a pattern of patience and humility under the lectures of Mr. Adams and the insults of Admiral Wilkes, Lord Russell combines in himself a choice collec tion ofopposite and apparently incompatible faults, and may serve his successors, whether they be disposed to err on the side of caution or of energy, as a perfect model of what a Foreign Secretary ought not to be. COUNTRY MARKETS. MANCHESTER-JULY 16. At our market this morning them we. a slender attend ance of buyers, and there was a limited demand for wheat at a decline on last week's prices of is per qr on English, and 2ct per cental on foreign. Flour r eglected, at 6d per sack and barrel under the rates of last week. Oats at a re duction f id per 451bs, and oatmeal 6d per load. Beans and Indian corn firm, at late values. BIRMINGHAM-JULY 16. English wheat was sold at 488 to 56s for white, and 400 to 50s per 36 stone for red. Barley, new malting, 32s to 42s per qr ; grinding, 24s to 28s Oats, old, 24s to 30s per 30 stone ; Irish, 22s to 255. Beans, 38a to 44s per qr. Peas, 36s to 44s per 36 ,:tone. EDINBURGH GRAIN-JuLY 15, A fair supply of farmers' wheat to-day, which met a slow sale et about the prices of last week. Barley in good demand, a, lull prices. Beans a dull sale, at about former p, ices. Oats met a ready sale. W beat on the top 2s Od down average Os 3d up. tiarley on the top Is lid own average 2s lo up. Oats on the top Os 3d down average Os 5d up Beans on the top 2s Od down average is 3d down. Total Supply and Sales. - Wheat . 873 qrs Sold 712 qrs Barley... ll4 qrs Sold 101 qrs Oats Beans 39 qrs Sold 35 qrs Flour sells as follows :—Whites, 42s Od ; extras, 40s Od ; superfine, 3ts Od ; fine, 36s td. CORK-JULY 15. The following were the quotations this morning d wheat, 8s Od to —s 0 ; white, 108 3d to eod , barley, 6- Od tr. Os Od ; oats, 7s 6d to Os Od. ; black do., 7e 2d to Os Od. DERBY SMITHFIELD_JULY 14. A better supply of fat beasts to-day. The wants of buyers were very small, owing to the unfavourable state of 'he weather for slaughtering, consequently there was a larger number of animals remained unsold. The number of sheep a..d lambs in the pens was also larger, and fat calves were more plentiful. Fat pigs were about an ave• rage supply. Beet Hutton .... 6d to 7d Pork . 5d to Lamb 81d to 9d Rough fat, 3s 9d per stone Hides, 3d to 4d; calf skins, 5d to 6d. Foreign Mail. Packet List. MAILS DUE. it stralia and Mauritius, via Eoutbampton . . July 19. via Marseilles Brazil and Cape Verds, by British packet....... Aug. 4. Cape of Good Hope, Ascension, and St. Helena. July 29. tThina, Penang, and Singapore, via Southanipton.July 19. via Marseilles ...July 13. Falkland Islands Gibraltar, via Southampton July H. India (Calcutta), and Ceylon, vik Southampton J uly 19. via Marseilles July 13. rndia (Bombay), via Southampton July 26 via Marseilles July 20. Portugal.... Au 4. .alts, Egypt, and Ade n , v i a Southamptou . July g. 19. _ _ via Marseilles Newfoundland uporto and Vigo U. 6. and British N. America, ty Brit. packet.... July 22. , by U.S. packet.,., by Canadian packet. July 17. W.C. of Africa, Madeira, and Teneritle ..July 10 abamas, via New York Mexico .. A 11 parts of West Indies, including Chili. Peru, 1 July 14 California, and British Columbia.. ••• • Oersted's great experiment, step by step, has been deve loped until the latest improvements have given us the un failing magnetic telegraph. Herring's magnetic brushes and combs are now so perfected that they arc unfailing in restoring the colour to grey hair, and curicg neuralgia and nervous headache. N.B.—Counterfeits are being made. Offices, 32, Baainghall-street, London. [ADVERTISEMENT 3 — Consumption, all nervous, bilious, liver, and stomach complaints, L. every stage, are only ag gravate and acceler,ted by thugs of every description, but eriec ly curable by Du Barry's health restoring Bevalenta A rabica Focd, as proved by thousands of cases which had been considered hoi eless. We quote a few. Cure No. 62,914. iss Lange, Is years of age, cured after the medical men had abandoned all hope of her recovery from the last stage of Pulmonary consumption, with f arful coi , gh, expectoration, exhaustion, spitting of blood, perspirations, hollow cheeks, emaciated to a sk.leton. She is now, thank God, a perfectly hea thy, blooming, fleshy girl.—N. Lat g , Commistaire de Police. Cure, No. 4t,z70. Mr. James Roberts, of Frimley, Surrey, of hirty years' diseased lungs, spittingef blood, liv. r derargement and partial deainess.—t ure, No. 47,121. Miss Elizabeth Jac( bs, of extr. me nervousness, indigent on, gatherings, low sprits, and nervous fancies.—Cure, No. 64,816. I.e Rev. James F. Fahenham, Norfolk, of indigestion and torpidity of the liver, which had resisted all medical treatment In tins, ilb, 2s 9d; 2 , b, is 6d; 51b, IA; 121 b, 225; 241 b, 40s. Barry du Barry and CJ., No. 77, degent-street, London; also Fortnum and Mason; and all grocers and chemists an every town of the United Kingdom. Births. HICKMAN.—On the 15th inst., at 46, George-street, Port man-rquare, the wife of Mr. John Hickman, of two bona and a d.ugater. HOBART.— On the 16th inst., at 15, Eccleston-square, the H on . Mrs. Frederic Hobart, of a daughter. TAYLOR.—On the 14th inst., at 10, Eaton place, W., -Atm% Cavendish Taykz, of a daughter. Marriages. 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