The Sun. — London, England, 1831-10-11 00:00:00

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(Fliom A C ORRESPONDENT . ) c i .d ee ~ , news of thefl and people's Lords S p i ritual and Temporal rejecting the rights and liberties with disdain was on k su e n;;„ b ?' the eNtraordinary and meritorious ect , or t. h -t'sPa.per, the only Paper now to be heard of 11 searee lY in any hottse in this large town. 4in/oerstxpression of regret and indignation ; but happy am a s a -ed l i ? e ' titi,t_ ; 0 5 . that o disorder or signs of tumult arosenr I, o iu anse in their county of Hants owing to the judicious ,Io9Ue.nt declaratin in Point of ' service 01 Earl Grey . at the I rig i as il l s sPeec h—" But I will not abandon the helm of affairs c an be useful to my Ring or Inv country." He le roGelli,res stand by the King, and the king by his peopas't I totall Milk Which the borou ghinonger's-shi will shortly be e a. ty l ie rt,%,lP r qed• A great meeting was held th . is . da i y _ or t county is jortsmouth meets on Wednesday. A requisitio u i n f , the k' banding abou the nd meetings all over the . cot in g d etn, WU ,j hew Lords that the Bill, the whole I Bill, and nothing but the Bill. ..................._ people will have EA. cause iirouglit b e f ore hi res to say he bad dispatched every and that be had left no arrears in the department over which he presided. Decision, of such a nature required aid and experience; but if after the lapse of 50 years the decisions of that Noble Lord should carry with them that weight and respect attached to those of another Noble Lord—(Loud cheering and laughter)—then he should be prepared to give that Noble Lord the :need of approbation, which be could not consider him entitled to in the first year of his judicial life.—(Hear.) H e saw nothing in the measures propounded or carried by his Majesty's Ministers to call upon the House to express their unabated confidence in tbem.—(Cheers.) Mr. MACAULAY then rose. Never in the whole course of his life did be feel himself so much over powered as at the present moment, believing, as he that the country was brought to such a climax as it had never befcre attained. He trusted that a very short delay, however, would take place before their wishe s were complied with, and in the meantime it No. 12.193. LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, OCTOBER 11, 1831. PRICE 7D. ST—RETFORD OCT. 10. , ik t e h e e y n es e t ws of the defeat of the Reform Bill was received a . t , t i h , i i s , e et e ' .d aY to by the Rockingham coach, and um f, illence of the been anticipated for the last few days, eah, rs, ~,,h ,forebodings in the best informed of th_ l e n ,m L c o:l;:d 's a o p e ri . b red urn sZiwhen it finally did arrive, regret and d ahriost every countenance. However, we ' kl/teh'd the 'we can Aall rite yet exultingly exclaim, " Ye ,l'asv,cie-I:moittt the factib snake, 111 Y Lords, ye have not kill'd centx-like, and bid defiance to all the maFtnna i t i i t O r l y is . tile % ! p Ol l who have thus defeated the hopes of their co t u _ _ rlnot, 1, r s of England your triumph is but temporary . I..us " , )'''t .—it isnggrhetteisotus....iridseit,iotblvei,shes o f millions ! neliler ~cailuys.eouLr ~,s grotin, _ ,re, and beware, !,,lard, thereto keep down to k a s n t d ii i , t N; , , cl t il e ff i e ,t V i a n i g l ! Jp i n the zs,%ell of public opinion you yourselves be swallowed i n the Which your obstinacy has created !" Petty factioh ' ` h Bilk, (i'e',after the mails came in yesterday two or thr . ee , of i the heweastle's tr adespeople, who re s at flee . head oi a r,teaSion tn-'eke, actually engaged the ringers to rin 01 , , qthabitaht's- the great disgust of nine-tenths of the respectable ....._ SECON ) EDITION. SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock. that part of the motion which related to the manufacturing poor, confining himself at present to that which related to the labouring poor. (LEFT SPEAKING.) thought that it would be of advantage now and then to take a draught of beer in order to qualify it. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE suggested, that the Galway Franchise Bill should be committed on Thursday. The Duke of WELLINGTON agreed to this arrangement. On the motion of Lord SUFFIELD, the Manufactory Labourers' Bill was committed, reported, and ordered to be read a third time to-morrow. The Customs' Fees' Bill was committed, reported, and ordered to he read a third time to-morrow.—Adjourned. his resolution to-night, because he thought the ser vices to the country of the Members of his Majesty's Government, in these particulars, had been less known than in the great effort which they had latterly hem making, and because it was his parti cular desire to found his claims for them to the confidence of the House of Commons—to that confi dence which he was sure they possessed in the country at large—(Long and continued cheering) —upon those measures, as well as upon that great and all-important one which they had last brought forward, and without which lie was perfectly ready to admit all the rest would he of no avail—(Hear, hear)—and which whenever it took effect, as he trusted after no very great delay it would, (Great cheering) —as he trusted, after no very great delay it would, if the people were orderly and quiet, if the House of Commons were sincere and consistent—if the Government were firm and persevering —(Great cheering)—it would tend to consolidate and confirm all the other blessings which the British Constitution was calculated to afford. He had purposely avoided in the remarks he had made, and is those he had yet to make he should be as brief as possible, what had passed in another place. He could have no wish to speak harsEly of the Members of the Upper House. There were among them—and among those who had un fortunately voted against the Reform Bill—many Noble Lords, and many Noble Friends of his, who he was sure were as incapable of giving a dishonest, a corrupt vote, upon any occasion as he (Lord E.) hoped he should himself be; and the same indulgence which he claimed for himself, he willingly awarded to all those who had opposed the measure. There was one above all, of whom, when he spoke of him as being by far one of the most able and eloquent and enlightened of all the opponents of the Bill, no one could mistake the individual to whom he referred —an individual to whom he was bound by every tie of affec tion and respect—he assured the House that that individual's character was embellished by every thing the most able— every thing the most honest and disinterested—and upon , this, as upon every occasion of his life he could have been swayed by no other motive whatever than by (un fortunate and mistaken it must have been) the most pure and zealous affection for what he considered the best inte rests of society and the State, for such feelings had ever distinguished his political life.--(Cheers.) It was im possible, therefore, that he could be supposed to entertain any hostile feeling to any member of that exalted assembly. He hoped that forbearance which he had manifested would be followed by other Hon. Members, and he trusted that support would be given to the motion which he would have the honour of submitting, as he brought it forward consistently with the recorded sense of the Ilouse, consistently with what was due to the public, with his duty to his constituents and, as he conceived, essential to the tranquillity of the country.—(Cheers.) He therefore would beg leave to move the following resolution ; " That while this House deeply laments the present Dill, ster"/'e °1,11:i D e Ye9tercdsati?! IM PERI AL PARLIAMENT THE LONDON GAZETTE was the duty of every one to endeavour to avert civil discord, and uphold the authority of the law ; such were the objects of the motion of his Noble Friend-..- such were the objects of every honest Englishman-- and such objects would most assuredly prevail, if they took their stand in the placer in the Constitution which were assigned to them ; if they discharged with fecoming firmness the duties of the office which they held as trustees for the nation and as advisers of the Crown.—(Loud cheers.) At the present moment there was only one question before them, viz., the question of Reform: there were only two parties—the friends of Reform and its enemies. —(Hear, and loud cheering.) He would not now enter into a detail of the measures THIS EVENING. OF THIS EVENING; Is on :o.: - 6 0 7 0reig n P ;t 44 ered fr , ° 1 1 attended9left t 0 ACC° r*- 00 1( rd a 60 was Itadrtt n g le 1° '0 ti to a° Dts i fort on th e iv moa', o , l or dshlP I HOUSE OF LORDS. WAR-OFFICE, Oc T, 11 4th Regiment of Foot—Lieut. W. D. Hewson, from the 47th Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Haly, who exchanges, dated Oct. 11. sth Foot—Assistant -Surgeon J. Ferguson, M.D. from half-pay :'7th Foot, to be Assistant -Surgeon, Oct. 11. odth Foot—H. Briscoe, gentleman, to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Welch, promoted, Oct. 11. :nd Foot—Assistant -Surgeon, E. M'lver, from half-pay Sth West India Regiment, to be Assistant-Surgeon, vice J. Forrest, who exchanges, Oct. 11. 47th Foot—Lieut. W. O'G. Haly, from the 4th Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Hewson, who exchanges, Oct. 11. 51st Foot—Ensign H. Bolles to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Isham, who retires ' • A. Rice, Gent, to be Ensign, by pur chase, vice Bolles, Oct. 11. 56th toot—Captain G. M. Eden to be Major, by purchase, vice Gun, who retired; Lieut. J. P. Nelley to be Captain, by pur chase, vice Eden ; Ensign A. Thorne to be Lieut. without purchase, vice Walmsey, appointed Adjutant; Ensign W. Hard ing Woodgate to be Lieut. by purchase, vice Nelley ; W. A. .Conran, Gent. to be ensign, by purchase, v ice Woodgate, Oct. 11. 67th Foot—Assistant-Surgeon I). Williams, from half-pay 4th Royal Veteran Battalion, to be Assistant-Surgeon, Oct. 11. 57th Foot—Lieut. It. Mayne to be Captain, by purchase, vice Johnson, who retires; Ensign J. B. Pearson to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Mayne; J. Edwards, Gent. to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Pearson, Oct. 11. 95th Foot—Ensign G. Ste Wart to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice St. John, who retires, Oct. 11; W. N. Custance, Gent., to he Ensign, by purchase, vice Stewart, Oct. 11. BREVET. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Woolsack at Ten Minutes before Five o'clock. ROUSE OF COMMONS, OCTOBEIt 10. - - - In consequence of Lord Ehrington's motion for a call of the House, the gallery was not opened till Twenty 'Minutes past Five o'clock. The House was unusually crowded at this hour. There was some confusion when we were admitted, which prevented our hearing the commencement of the proceedings. When silence was in some degree restored, The SPEAKER stated that he understood tie prop. sition of the Noble Lord to be, that those Members who had answered to their names should remain on the list, and he called over at the end of the night. That any who came in in the interval should be struck off the list, and that the rest who did not answer, and had not been excused, should he ordered to attend on Thursday next. It wee understood that that proposition was agreed to. Sir F. BURDETT presented a petition. signed by 600 persons, from St. Clement Danes. The petitioners felt most deeply the disappointment caused by the re jection of the Reform Bill in the Lords, and prayed that all constitutional means in the power of Government might be exercised to carry the Bill into effect.—Ordered to be printed. The SPEAKER then put the question, whether it were the pleasure of the House that he should return the peti tion list ? . Lord WHARNCLIFFE presented a petition from three individuals on the Game Laws. Lord RODEN presented a petition from Coleraine, praying that British soldiers in foreign parts might be re lieved from doing homage to the host in Roman Catholic processions. which had been proposed or altered by his Majesty's Ministers; but if he did, he had no doubt whateva he should be able to defend the conduct of Ministers, and throw the charge which had been made by the Oppo sition back upon themselves. On the Timber Duties, however, he would ask whether the defeat which his. 111,j,sty's Ministers had sustained was more disgraceful to themselves or those by whom it was opposed.—(Loudi el eering.) What he would ask had become of the Hon. Member' 5 1 11144 Duties' Bill, when he was Chancellor of the Exchequer:-(Cheers.) The question, now before the House was not whether the Reform Bill was approved of or not; that the House had aimed"- decided by an immense majority, and lie con ceived, therefore, that it must be taken in that House that the Iteforin Bill was good. The voice of the public in its favour had not altered ; old Sarum had grown no larger, and Manchester neA smnalier.—(Cheering.) That House was as indepen dent of the House of Lords as the House of Loris was of that House, and they had as goad a right to retain their opinions as the Lords had to retain theirs. They were no more likely to be wrong in their opinions than the House, of Lords were to be wrong in theirs. The House of CoromosA was the decision of the nation, and it must be remembered that for forty years a party always opposed to RPforna had been in possession of the powers of Govern- The Earl of CAMPERDOWN presented a petition from Galway relative to the extension of the elective franchise. The Marquis of WESTMEATH presented a similar petition. The Earl of RADNOR presented a petition in favour of the Reform Bill. 0 / ClIA I " c ; 0 0 1 , ht frool o tY 'dinner Lord LYTTLETON pressented a petition from a parish in Worcestershire, in favcur of Reform. Mr. BERNAL, and others from the Commons, brought up the Arms (Ireland) Bill, which, on the motion of the Earl of SHAFTESBURY, was read a first time. Lord KING presented a petition from Suffolk, in fa vour of the Prescription Bill. He considered that late oc currences bad shown that the Clergy were against all change. Lord ELLENBOROUGH denied the assertion of the Noble Lord, and was sorry that the Noble Lord took such a position in that House as to disparage him in the opinion of that House. To be Majoas in the Army—Capt. F. Barrallier, of the 73d Foot ; Capt. G. Young, of the 60th Foot ; and Capt. Stewart, of the 67th root; July 2'2, 180. WAR OFFICE OCT 11. MEMORANDTJM.—The half_pay of the under-mentioned Officers has been cancelled from the 11th inst., upon their re ceiving a commuted allowance for their commissions, viz. Veterinary Surgeon John lons, half-pay 18th Light Dragoons. Lieut. J. W. Pollen, half-pay 48th Foot. Ensign NV. Plunket, half-pay 60th Foot. Lieut. J. Devenish, half_pay Cape Regiment. Lieut. G. Knox, half-pay 2d Garri,on Battalion. Ensign G. Linn, half_pay sth Foot. Lieut. T. Briggs, half_pay, 43d Foot. Lieut. W. Davies, halt pay, De Roll's Regiment. Ensign W. C. Trevelyan, half-pay, unattached. Ensign P. Hughes, half-pay 93d Foot. Surgeon Sir 0. Ballinghall, half-pay 10th Foot. Lieut. G. A. A utrere, half-pay 2.oth Light Dragoons. Assistant-Surgeon T. Dillon, half-a y 39th Foot. Ensign H. L. Worrall, half-pay 6th 'Foot. Lieutenant J. Clark, half-pay 66th Foot. Lieut. E. Jehring, half-pay York Light Infantry Volunteers. . ..... _ . Lord ALTHORP was understood to propose that the Orders of the Day be postponed on the present occasion. Mr. GOULBURN hoped that, if postponed, they would not come on at a late hour. _ _ . Lord KING seas obliged to the Noble Lord for his advice. He presented another petition to the same effect. Lord SUFFIELD said that the occurrences of the last few days had changed his opinion of the Reverend Bench. He entertained a perfect respect for the Church, but he thought the conduct of the Bench of Bishops on a late occasion had done them no credit. He had always observed that that Bench supported a Govern ment when it introduced laws inimical to the liberties of the people, but now, on the accession of a liberal Ministry, and on the introduction of a measure calculated to restore the people's rights, ►hey were found almost all in opposition. F,T 5 ' ..,.. OFFICE OF ORDINANCE, OCT. 8. Corps of Royal Engineers.—First Lieut. W. Gregory to be Second Captain, vice White, retired on half•pay ; Second Lieut. W. Robinson to be First Lieutenant, vice Gregory, promoted, Oct. 6. £he Earl of CA RNARVON rose to order. The Noble Lord had no right to question the motives which induced any Noble Lords to vote one way or the other, whether layma❑ or Clergyman. (LEFT SITTING.) Commissions by the Lord Lieutenant of the County of Warwick. Sir Francis Shuckburgh, Bart.) to be Deputy Lieutenant, Aug. ‘..15 ; Sir John Mordaunt, Bart. to be ditto, Sept. 14. Commissions by the Lord Lieutenant of the County of Linlithgow. Ist or Berwichshire, &c. Regiment of North British Militia. J. Swinton, Esq., to be Major, vice Dunlop, resigned ; D. B. Clunie, Gent., to be Ensign, vide Scott, resigned, Sept. 10. Commission by the Lord Warden of the Stannarics of Cornwall N EW ( -;AS'I LE, OcT 9. Yo li „ 'hour, s oo "Press ar • --------= • ner thant,'red here at three o'clock this afternoon, five I h r , s ,„ ' , le Express coach. eei vs`d h; ° P e n this t • HALF -PAST NINE O'CLOCK. k as ~,..,_ re. s o inform you how the doleful news was re tiveri.,!sse 441_ crowd waiting at the Exchange for the news In the a4etejeased 110 doubt, by your express having ar the s ee `o be res4".°oll• The subscribers to the news-room gave the paw 9 rit the' body of the Exchange, and I assure you &et tity ~,,.;11 , ,I te ssive to a degree On the reader announcing h,i - e h o r r ldt the measure, which he did first, the groans clisis t'„, well s u t l .e. The expressions echoed were, "We can to th a je h eanin Lek to the Earl ." " We wish we had the Mar th, tm Part of Eg, o dnderryfwhere bs t when the reader cause rk ke ra ef at , .t , Grey's speech 1 1 , ys he will not quit Th ey nn4f. of the cheers were treme 'e nd s o a ns and long. The „ I) 4e, a „ is hed wi s ti s Peech was received with immense cheering. "t'i? n redi t t l , three 4 three cheers for Earl Grey, three for the frilo ,h c is ? lrnit st at the ar ,the Lord Chancellor. When it was an ,al pail th e 4 ,„tetl, t, erl th e t i I ' Yneot would immediately be prorogued, w ., Nin,, „9od blostinlng,bam meeting, took off' their hats, and , t. to 49 Sunda i n f ,„ c a the k in „. , ,, 8 and actually sung, " God say . e 0 011 %0 Il y , 4 ay r l i a lZ horus, forgetting, seemingly by that, that it vccetisvot., 14,4n.rk4Xtraordinar --------- ,s wilia o w ill Lot, xci, _ e 4 laigeexceoritions, the news of the fat s a ta l: e liv o isio n n . , r , v , i ,hto _,,,,, ti ett ; , W `"I n ate are now if i i czu n rse t of t peor t i s l i e de in th a e x 1 0 ' ° a rtiPb te Will has asked if the o i le ng get hi s answ peop e can k th , e . do without -clin t gi h e e „t r IOC . 0 , in ----'"...!--.'-'""•••••,!.............-----_____ AIA" ni NG ---- „ s p. ~ .trk,, rr 0, ltkll 1 HAM OCT. 10. kk 4 PalV4,, ----------!- - - LETTER FROM A MGM!: RESPECTABLE f ' f th , ! --° n the e to p"re arriv al bet"D"r9UA) d I'4 'i ,", bri. betty tour and five o'clock on Saturday - erni - "ose s Ong the Third Edition of The Sun News tio,„ ne htiv ~ Pirsted roprietor the thanks of this town are 46, a g o ) talbrisT i l t . Kip 4 ., ° !,. great - n 's - 1g early infor- C il s of ' in citig i — 44 ndon at e s x ey e e rt n io o'c s l i Cc ' k g o i n i Saturday morn. ,s a , t. Ntart,e, fate of the Bill in the House of Lords, the ;V I C Knell ''" ' and St• Philip's immediately began to toll a , , Ve st nd e ooti • , . k t ~ nai f „, erd ay ~i nued doing so until twelve o cloc a to:ach oMfiled, 4',:i?(lliaY) they rang at intervals, during the i ltar il is keieeli u , t is morning two black flags were hoisted Att e s tton °f (Acne es, and the bells tolled full muffled. The I, tt iv r , oti L g krsuas.i.mnt and indignation, and will, Lfear, re there's whl' o as, in Ar ° ,n_, and palliati: es to prevent mischief. Arr. toe frog T ~ he h as ;2 .Gazette this Johned three &ot 1 , 0 `4(1 Altli o ' selV eds one from Lord Russell, ano t nee 1 Ahl rP, and one from Sir Gray Skipwith. Ihe n tsi sta yto lorp besee h" • &o r b nee to Prev eut a... c ing him to use all his influence, p ti ;,._ a e, ti .._ the l am anyy acts of open violence, but any sucl 4„,`liote o `e as thi s ~..ls t hreatened by the refusal to pay' taxes. ~i,nen out s t ,, e • es ! 'icing (as lie observes the one least likely to e o e rr tleumOt b erty s t I have just heard that disturbances . have 4,a.,,,t ,iiedt but I 11 (1 that the Post-ottice and other edifica t s 1 ,, 1 Y. do , !;!! .o ds, , 0 ,1,>e and trust that that informati t on e is , n ,. o r_ ki o. t a t ew , ot_t_sseeo th_l„%in,,k, holding the ba , lan7, a,savhe token%nisi -1'.., :., re th e ",.e, e I : , and the peopl . e,.shou dh . c hteous sr, s `,tneh, a ,„ 1 I decided upon giving an unrig uneven te q with y 'ruly a ;",,,i .n order to make that balance une ,le , 4.t, .er,,,,,,..1e f0,...,__,%( ac curateli' equipoised. What have they , eit enn ' e it , h, , W t 7 , !tton of the louse of Commons? Why in th:(,).t.nrooZ.Ftice was to thwart, the rights of the people , — , p e „rst t e ) . ' , aceh,„ , r . , IY,asked as a sanction of com plaisan , eli n v t S 0 r i,j e l t ) l l, T to h.,‘,,veniiich they qught not to have, assumed , when the King and the I, ll , '°4l, l 4 to e°rr l-Iliti o Y n a reed as they this instance ; but they 641dtti-e?od the -- :,:nd on their heads alone be the consequences.. w",arneelo„%faeenltiq'sTt'st;sislferings had been their ow , r i s i l ie Then T he e n s , Ugh to Ilnlikett'sesen e a , l i l e t: l m p I , indePe )re nd a gt o e f Earl Grey's, P r „ d .lai' ' i'e still e Z v ince any e thing but marble and adamant. ‘,„7,41,_ rate'nd I b,, - ie l ng s but the bells have ceased tolling since The. " o - inte - " e ve this latter circumstance to have arisen nt of „,. rfere ni ,, , , but whether complied ro,„hur ch n'te fe e i i „,.. 0 1 the priesthood, of right, I cannot say. b, ochettt I hol /:rd i s fu"isitofr as a matter I reateststate of exc n nn Wise. V shall he people In t te F hi but I fear it will * hi e Thto be '' t t Att w peaceable t o- . nig , placard, calling int. gill, Pea c „,, cioil has just issued a i nded I,' ao dnottn h 'e, and they will yet have 1 , I'll the r'r ' he 1 , 4 - 1 , 4 1! Yet I tObUt the Bill." It has produced the elf . ect - -so as t o ','hl , it them d'lticult to restrain the feeling ........uevent Committing acts of violence. 811---- EPP ------- 1, IR -- D, OCT. 10. - 6 0 ° a 6 ° s 6 - 0 1 1 1 4 l o ° 0 )ct• I ' 6 ol, 6 „ v . 5 f stis• , W ope ,; ve nAg ti oe ,kos , —• . 4 , 55 6 . ne 38 6 . 6 fi, 4,1 P 4 f l A pe 40 5 . Os. 65 e •., e , ‘226. son ',ct• P er VT, )3. l' Cr S P er V it. #/ RI& / 2 . 2 31 40 30 4 9,1 4 3 35 , 4S , 0. 5 ' and pi )," 3 ;al'e op, mjCl2/ top e v r e _, e , njeg o j • 4 0 I 0:4 hs,4l? „71-4 re EOITOR OF THES th rj e defeat of t? h,etiol4fojnra-litifi'lXitnratohrli.nanzseenxfpLeesrsas announcinghereoaubro, u . t . e . l f , ,‘ _ :, ketivi t s y ould,al. rligrhit, and even at that latien.., tcplll:44„,T,l;t 113117vuerrsaalehurCstVo'ne ol4dellAy i ;, r No timeqshould be lost. nextn ic.lanco ,tvaist,tgen t e n e r i o s f et g ei o ns he maatEl'o.oded from every one. 1 • and other 4e,lnut!ep.ien, annti titae Nies,s. pzivreymai?, ittrnatitriai.,et)s,, had set i a " morn ing Call a meeting '‘W wmith ra, t„tonUstjy,,,? focoltP,a47tei`nvitsv..h..ocf , r t t h h ' re l e n l'iaours, ,was l m e o v r e e r " r t e.: ;4?,"ac e t, ii;' f r o e i si!„„,eetfibly signed than , . tny requisitio n ord . s havi r i g (3taPi4atTheda ,the l'ciinc Of"tch)PYp'—‘,lel hseePtohemselves out the e ar ite y_ 411411 by . ' n it and his Gove• ern e m °l ent - --and thy th,. _thutowti -I,_nerity_ of 41, we, the iii , i s cl t er r s e i el spectfully . req r ue e s r t t,0011:1„witil e7iitaPpalirm r.fitlf eSeht,e,fligieltdismf.ay d (1 4 1o t ' i ' e da Va ' rl i i l a ' m o e d nt,. undersigned C' ir u itiab h itants l'eni'erisnll„hiiiliereksienngeNll)'emsetching ) 1 :d ine ea to te l a )r s o u r tticient numb e er n o e ! h:4 1 4 8 5; to ae-a?.itsyt sttirh.the'sr e c r olist a i l tuth r mal means as Tay D which has already i ar,!y, ra41,13',?,,t1,..111 I.lealtTo°naatl''a'e p a p s r u o r b ‘' a ' t p i f on ß ; ef a o n d ;Is( r ) e to z,, a n d,olWcsse, and Va'rbiZerjrfeoi r ;Zi 3 eti,i rdwalvinnuarff,dtleiisacsosliteirgilt(,),77 i !N l if e ig d is b ti•at " e l Z 1 k at,i 4,hTherchan,ditrsedw_hich inecudes th , e s name, o Bake, Esq., 'lll)'Pe4iata4Yr,„M sa'y thdat°tt.llieerll,'lTtachriulttkil, e,eiari4teting y"„illitt)lied with the'. request of the at twelve he r ' n . a held this day, in Paradise-sq trary t ti : " not the Rt. on the eon and h,. tunit,, -.lgritest disposition to riot ber i e f ; r j e o q h u u l a i sl e t , i o ' n st s , an d I mr l eto the King ''' alini,.-' to r e r ater of the people is, " —°,,-, ~ I wish it was I,,,Ssible for .;'m-ers,and s uccess to the Reform Dl"' (14,,n,,tir1e feris;,_4_ r.q ` V ice to witness te t! d without the rhh.,ll tuo,?fi,hainggrweetiuf;hnitkz•el(ltl take place h .. 1 ffy e tho e t r i e sand bl . e. ss'nmln= ~„,,,,,,,iii,tri3-410enscription, nave been heaped P e ,,,, demonstration 1* against u lt ° e r form.. , ti ls; , - ci, l'e'liell I.4l:l(l'ir°dnelhal-h4ratir lie'e f o o l r ? e le tw wl e ' ls e 'c• hours fror i n t e l u n r , nwi e t it,4 bears thoof the people of England, ' aYe t a to h( th Y is basf . Ca ; ta4tei.lsntdePralv4l,lhtiv aiveerrin .11yetiloirei tdons-lei''pport."The.isiiin/" Noothn,4gaih:', 3.„.aatlhe Iteefor rn e t t itill. l4 a Indeed, such is the rs o f dig hY h* “irkshi"Y..l...ord h arneliffe, that many members thei:.4,l44dcln,7e ,'teghneta of Yeomanry Cav°ry ' c n omn to resign r"st, keL,*4ve expressed their determinatio It I, • ,_ tools no longer. vtien, I,lPgossible t EIGHT `•} the m a ifnl thed s a tr.) ,;'',titii4addettsscrtiebt,th et sensaatnio whi ptea°,l'6ll air;a,t,,enance.. Still t he gloom is no fear . of any disturbance, pa,, rt,it.atki io"otesst al:e Oh the move, antlfcipatt;inaf ever took 1 . 1 d n me ' l l at c c h h o Op l r y 'eC vLaiOl which eo - II aekt Loilitlattihire ,!1- d;s.'ilaailse°ifi d P' o h t i l ic tli f e ee re l s n u g lt of the meeting I ain, Ni.:it:tigirtetapeSls, ItE PONDENT. SI. 2.'" ill ~ NO-I ' ll- & — G r :_______________ , 10. eener-As Yo „ -4' eh OR 0 p THE itiii.i.its t own of 40,1"-% tt'tate I ,''' the Jir,3_l,:per_ seems to be the grP.iid or S an y U ( o ,n f i . t e lt f e t l n li :e a:ix rtelleuei3i.bi, rh.l;hit ocnaitTco,trefuoertblar ofto a pprise t! tittls'?v k lisaP P° 4 *. The.sun on Saturday, ,,i i'i'n'ted'Ul(i'inti, (ine'Xball'e°all,nli °u)tiht Ti l! alrti r c e a r iio ° ll could no ‘, be ...,.. people becameneoti,leeptbngiltihlge has tirigte'o4 the t'arSriiAlaoYfbaoruing about 1,000 Person.lleo"umtivel. 4i:itPit) Was4ribbten fired t .,.. i r avail, vYbellB9Ma ().n.eca lametnte i,,, „ a ...ailed with nit,,teslnififtr. This A l s le t lS , (however ~.. mail passed the Y 3 he'„,,...„A_l!. ttedderley report the ~?..!fed his 110..._Was not forgotten, r ''..,„? 3 . 41. i,4,7,llT+Prudent as to wave a white kerchief and 0, _,.. , one o7rtlie Anti-Reformers, ha t radshaw, a tqi Nl.L.,op3;rap3d.broke his winadio4wl s ii , ' :l l sTi t e h r o e s n e in of g A. Manson, chemist, t' tr ' ' ari), 4 41111 hartinger, of Mr. \Vard,t.. 3 __ -ft, 'ak, 4 „_ er and baker, of Captain Clifton, a halt -I a) u 44 the ~.' ) - , - rpi, a haker, of 111 r. Cooke grocer and a few orrthigeir4; apitiewisoorOtuitp:t attaglc was on the holise of I\lr. C. N. Wright, to wst ,aet broken,,,,titt,fi.ztt,a,,, the; ier!,",.ll,l,eve'ry'ew° iln(iff'oci,t,tisifli" ?Nett tihop was literally mil e , a , ' g Pose, : z T,lletsleic t e , e c. iuld i gf7,rlhe ii Ma-tt°rtrsexto ft?, til'i?i:/p,lee witilltlst t4teebres.waiskiuetrucit hosrig° \ivsriegli°Vs the tptr:tl4i7Ocidiitl'eftlerlai,;?l!cisient the Tow i r‘ i ' C I IC. e 4k full g_allc;j ii - f a t r o k t et. it b i dark, e (I,,,lt?teible to save frolin dtal:?rttsco,lt!.tloterthaif-ri,,,,ed, 1n I r tof rtlinf Joiiin!,!': :n ati alc)ir,ZertY °I G. Strutton, 1.''...5q.,e ‘vlii) has through iii3li ,ty ahll s ,. It for. every I,olitical boroughinongering. aa__,, CY'tttur-,' Proto oter e s se 'nfured individuals were all signers ta:, 7 .1 .-kfk, of ~,,,of tht? silly Anti-Reform petition rl lt,hern, 1 1 ; ° a ryaiers'. ''oftl a gsll tic trtothis e .t macie for Athtli'e"s:4Zi'4W"'i!. marvel, rr, , e d isa waythey ~ ,, i,ra ' es i .) ll 'mode ''''.(-. -I fa'o iLayp the Eing" ,Wrias ~,,s!ruittg. 4ftal-11 the marketl -rßest public rri' uefelteinin, IVfltit tilk,',.chrlfun CNV‘Trhslakwis'lholding• ; 1.. ,t4 aid t„:,_,Place to addresb, th(e. K ing, to continue his p.owte,re autin;.rtiti,.7,srtLoonr,fit Gstirepii,,ti,ernFe , of 1-,fefor,i;i,,,,tnl,inesllatkoyr,inEsql ~ lell aZir'43sttVvocaies Of thais tghriejadealn'llliealing measure have, depi„,2l!ing: A'tty.th'PO lig. The astounding cheers assail t i t T ,i ears a di‘ap`l74." s eem s , a , li ve ;,,,. h,d li,-",.,-,,"".,1° I?,e.„retf)e anger of k;,,_ , toted ~,,_,, _er )y, slkteeirmiles west io.osefetti, ;he wriZol, knew no boimils ; two il_°thrt'eehetia,tii'esobneeerns seller, wri°,"' Ptisoll, 'andf the I,4ff/is w t e r ir brik. ti e tt i r l, se, 1. 0 the book 131itted, an the Anti-11e%rnaQUspeeti°tion l'ay, )erty. If . 3 many excesses have been committed on their pro has been literally ft'''..-: reckl`" Petitions gave the Anti Lords no cause of alarm, Co r i ° , . ess consequenc f ' r- wide plan of Reform feas,a 5.,.. 'grill, I fear ca use es this n some • opposed the a str._;„.vjsl3,,su., _,. them to regret having , h.. b ' la Itheri,,ifhil tatted and overtaxed peopte. NN , e must have have eta is ,IP °?4 , of Wee Pe to Fibs t 1 Citni-irPin::"-t' P' t v'rF *Hosti 4; - meeting wa,,,,,,ersinu„. th_,._ ust sb t,a.bppose ft: On P ' ' ' l e as - 4. ' l'hornas y, an'', fie_ld, E.,,,. ' "1 , ,i. y read a fettaenrafrol)laffliiriet.s.taitroerny!Gelieral, Ilan 't: rh,llcrirg,ints as firm who says, (171iiielti delighted all to hear that con. Tih'.'.._hhholong to ihre4l aan saifTteruin' eilltltaeyr ?,;(i)sdpbeolespsich,simi,aapnpcine.: . Ili, 11,st:011),w:ere given for the Forty-one, and , three rußhi:;-,1 ought to add that before eleven of''cloictl:Fon aturday in thi's''.zeiaNylayer had eight or ten requisitions tor a public meet- 11. ° lld e ' l O 10 8 0 Cl 9 9F 0 eR 6 / ct f(10 daY ; ...... ....•0 0,041. - A 1). 19 .° Y 1 1 , 91 i s j g 11 0 e 49 Datsr; ° , os o 13 '' 01 3J‘L O, oo Too' ° ,496 ~, 0 7 1 0 `64Od Io,' o o. Ssq" . AT 1° 5. , P 4 I ,0 HOUSE OF COMMONS. Mr. M'KINNON presented a petition from St. Mary le-bone and St. Pancras praying the House to adopt some measures to prevent the inhuman practice of bull-bait ing. The Hon. Member stated that Mr. Martin's Act for preventing cruelty to animals embraced all cattle hut bulls ; it ran thus—" ox, cow, heifer, steer, and other cattle," and it had been held that bulls did not come within each of those denominations. It was the ject of the petitioners to include hulls in that humane Act, and for that purpose they prayed the interposition of that House. _ _ _ The petition was ordered to be printed. Mr. ENVART presented a petition from the Mayor, Bailiffs, and Burgesses of Liverpool, against the general Registration Bill. The petitioners were of opinion that that Bill would create great expence and much litigation. The lion. Member could not concur in the fears of the petitioners, but the petition was entitled to consideration as coming from a highly respectable quarter. Mr. O'CONNELL said that so far from the General Registration Bill creating expense or litigation, it would prevent both if persons only took a proper degree 01 caution. Sir E. SUGDEN had strong fears that dangers would attend the Bill. When the proper time arrived he would state why in his opinion he thought the evils resulting from the Bill would more than counterbalance the benefits. After a few words from Mr. HUNT and Mr. CRAMPTON, Air. O'CONNELL said, that no civilized country on earth but had a general registration except England ; in France such had been the effects of it, that property had been raised in value five or six years' purchase by it. Sir E. SUGDEN made a few observations relative to the expense of the Law Commission. Mr. CAItIPBELL thought that that Commission could be very advantageously suspended for the present, As to the General Registry Bill, the objections to it were produced from ignorance and misrepresentation. The Corporation of Liverpool would have no cause for com plaint, because leases of the nature of theirs would be ex empted from its operation.—(Hear, hear.) He would now give notice that he should not proceed with the Bill any further this session, but he would bring it for ward again immediately on the commencement of the next session. Mr. D. W. HARVEY spoke in favour of the Bill. After a few observatinus from Mr. EWA WC, Sir E. SUGDEN, and Mr. CAMPBELL, the petition was laid on the table. Air. PELHANI presented a petition from Louth, in Lincolnshire, praying the House to take into consideration the state of Ireland. Mr. Crampton, Mr. Lefroy, Mr. Croker, and Sir Edward Sugden presented petitions relative to the Gal way franchise. Mr. ROBINSON took an opportunity of explaining the reason which induced him to give his vote last night in favone of the motion of the Noble Lord opposite. It was supposed that all the parties who gave their votes in favour of that motion gave their unqualified vote of confidence in favour of the Government; he begged to say that he gave his vote solely on the question of Reform, and in order that the House might act with consistency, and not recede from their own acts. He was opposed to Ministers upon other questions, but he gave his support to them upon the subject of Reform, because he believed it to be essential to the welfare of the country.: Mr. BLAKENEY addressed the House, urging the necessity of carrying the Reform Bill into effect. Sir R PEEL hoped the House would not encourage the presentation of such petitions. Sir 0. WARRENDER bore testimony to the efficiency and general good conduct of the police. Mr. HUME inquired whether the Right Hon. Baronet intended to persevere in the inquiry which bad last session been suggested, as to the relative expenses of the old and new police establishments. Sir R. PEEL should have no objection to such an in quiry, in order that the public might be satisfied that no improper expenditure was encouraged. Mr. MABERLY concurred in what had fallen from the Right Honourable Baronet relative to the pre sentation of such petitions as that under discussion, and he hoped the Hon. Member for Preston would slew more courtesy to the House in such matters than he was accustomed to do. Mr. HUNT explained, and presented a petition from some individuals in Birtningbatn, relative to the sentence passed upon Mr. Taylor for blasphemy. Sir jA;.LES M.A.:DONALD brought up the report of the Committee of the affairs of the East India Company. RIOTS AT DERBY. Mr. RICE TREVOR wished to know from the 7i:ale Lord opposite (Althorp) whether any official intelli_ gence had reached the Government relative to the present atate of the riots going on at Derby, and whether any effectual means had been adopted to prevent their con tinuance. Lord ALTIIORP was sorry to say that official hence had reached Government of great riots going on at Derby, to prevent the continuance of which every step had been taken which could be thought of. On the motion of Lotd Awn:me, the Appropriatio n Act was reaa a third Cmt?, and passed. On the motion of Mr. S. RICE the City of London Fresh Water Act was read a third time, and passed. - LABOURING POOR. Mr. SADLER rose f or th e purpose of bringing forward . hi s mot i on re l at i ve to t h e co ndition of the labour tog agricultural poor. It will his intention to postpone and Devon. Miners Militia of Cornwall and Devon. A. Jenkins, Gent., to be Second Lieutenant, Sept. 24. Commission by the Lord Lieutenant of the County of Salop, South Salopian Regiment of Yeomanry Cavalry. J. Turner, Gent. to be Adjutant, vice Ward, deceased, Sept. 27. WHITEHALL, OCT. 10. The King has been pleased to grant to the Reverend Thomas Gaisford, Doctor in Divinity, the place and dignity of the Dean of the Cathedral Church of Christ, in the University of Oxford, void by the resignation of Doctor Samuel Smith, late Dean thereof CROWN-OFFICE. Ocr. 11. NIEMBERS RETURNED Ti? SERI E IN Tills PRESENT PARLIAMENT. TowN or POOLE.—The Right Hon. Lieutenant-Geneneral Sir John Byng, G.C.8., of No- 6, Portman square, in the room of the Hon. Um. Francis Spencer Ponsonby, who has accepted the the office of Steward of the Manor of East Henpred, in the county of Berks. BOROUGH OF FLINT—M. Wynne, Esq , in the room of Sir E. P. Lloyd, Bart., now Baron Mostyn, and one of the Peers of the United Kingdon of Great Britein and Ireland. BOROUGH AF HIGHAM FERRERS.—The Hon. John Brabazon Ponsonby, in the county of Kilkenny, in Ireland, in the room of Charles Christopher Pepys, Esq., who has accepted the Chiltern Hundreds. DECLARATIONS OF INSOLVENCY, THOMAS MANSFIELD and JAMES HACKNEY, Col. ridge, Staftbrdshire, earthenware-manufacturers. NEWTON JONES, Bridge-road, Lambeth, snuff-agent. BANKRUPTS. THOMAS LEVER, King-street, Cheapside, Manchester warehouseman, to surrender Oct. 18, 28, at three, and Fov. 22, at two, at the Court of Commissioners. Neild, King-street, Cheapside. THOMAS BUSH. London-street, Fenchurch-street, HUGH FERGUSON', Euston-square, and OUNC A N WNAUG HT LIDDELL, London-street, Fenchurch-street, merchants, Oct. 14, 21, and Nov. 22. at one, at the Court of Commissioners. Oliverson, Denby, and Lane. Frederick's-place, Old Jewry. JOHN BAWDEN, Chard, Slmersetshire, merchant, Oct. 21 , , 21, and Nov. 22, at eleven, at the Old London Inn, Exeter. Moseley, Bedford-street, Covent-garden ; Kingon, jun. Exeter. WILLLIAM OWEN, St. Asaph, grocer, Oct. 24, 25, and Nov. 22, at ten, at the Red Lion Inn. Jones, Temple, London; Hurnphrevg, Rose-Hill, St. Asaph. THOMAS CROWNSHAW, Sheffield, iron-master, Oct. 213, 28, and Nov. 22, at two, at the Commercial Inn. Sheffield. Rodgers Smith, Sheffield; Rodgers, Devonshire-square, Bishops gate-street. JOHN WELSH, Whitehaven, Cumberland, tallow-chandler, Oct. 19, at ten, at the office of Mr. Hodgson, Whitehaven, Oct. 2, and Nov. 2 - 2, at ten, at the Golden Lion Inn, Whitehaven. Falcon, Elm-court, Temple, London, or Hodgson, Whttehaven. BERDOE WILKINSON, Hasketon, Suffolk, wine-mer. chant, Oct. 14, 15, and Nov. 22 at eleven, at the Court of Corn . missioners. Gadsden, Furnival's-inn, Holborn. SAMUEL and FRANCIS BURSTALL, Kingston-upon- Hull, merchants, Oct. 13, 14, at ona, and Nov. 22, at eleven, at the George Inn, Kingston-upon-Hull. Walmsley, Keightley, and Parkin, Chancery-lane, London; Dryden, Hull. THOMAS PARNALL and JOHN FRANK, Clark's-place, Islington, linen-drapers, Oct. IS and 25, and Nov. 2 2 2, at ten, at the Court of Commissioners. Hardwicke and Guest, Lawrence lane Cheapside. THOMAS SNOW, New-street, Covent-garden, grocer, Oct. 18, 21, at eleven, and Nov. 2 . 2, at one, at the Court of Commis_ sioners. Fisher, Queen-street, Cheapside. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, OCTOBER 10. - _ ( Continued from our Second Edition of yesterday.) The Limn CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Wool sack at Five o'clock. The Marquis of WESTMINSTER presented a petition in favour of Parliamentary Reform. The Marquis of CLEVELAND, the Duke of Noitror.K, and the Duke of RICHMOND then presented petitions on the same subject. VESTRIES—IRISH PUBLIC WORKS, &c. Lord MELBOURNE gave notice that he would move the second reading of the Vestries' Regulation Bill to. morrow. His Loansure then moved the third reading of the Irish Public Works' Bill. Lord CARBERY objected to the clause giving addi tional powers to the Grand Juries to make assessments, and suggested that as the legal interest of money in Ireland was six per cent. some alteration ought to be made in the law in that respect. The Marquis of WESTMEATH also objected to the Grand Jury clause; but still would not oppose the Bill, which, on the whole, would he very advantageous to Ireland. The Earl of WINCHILSEA highly approved of the Bill, to which he would give his cordial support. Lord MELBOURNE—The great object of the Bill was to afford some relief to the poor of Ireland, where there was a large population, without adequate empley• ment, and this relief was given in a way, perhaps, not well adapted to ordinary circumstances, but which would do much good in the actual situation of Ireland. As to the Grand Jury dame, the purposes of the Bill could not be answered without it There were checks in the Bill, however, on the Grand Julies. As to the interest of money, that was hardly a matter for legislation. It would be better, perhaps, to leave it to find its own level in the market..—The Bill was read a third time and passed. Lord ROLLE presented a petition from some place against the Reform Bill. It had been erroneously stated in the public journals that he had been employed in getting up petitions against the Bill, under the directions of a certain Noble Duke. He denied the imputation. He had not been employed in getting up petitions either for or against the Bill. But he would do his duty in that House conscientiously and independently. The Eat I of FIFE presented a petition from the parish of 'Marylebone, against bull-baiting, which at present was not sufficiently prohibited by the law, as it at present stood. His Lordship also presented a petition from the owners and occupiers of land in the county of Banffi against the use of molasses in the distilleries. However the petitioners had no ground of alarm, as the molasses had been struck nut of the Bill in the Committee. But he would suggest that some of the English beer-shops should be sent to Scotl and, and also some of the English skittles, to amuse th e ft equenters of those beer shops, in order to wean the people from whiskey-shops—not that he, by any means, would do entirely away with the mountaiu dew, but he Lord EBRINGTON rose amidst much confusion. When silence was restored, he said it had frequently been his lot to address that House under feelings of difficulty, but that difficulty on the present occasion was increased ten fold. So momentous were the circumstances under which they met to-night, so awful was the crisis, that he must confess it was his sense of the important moment, which superseded all private and personal feelings, that weighed so heavily upon him. He bad, moreover, the Justification that the debate on the motion he should sub mit, would not be determined by any argument that he should Tait forth. He was aware there were sitting round him many who represented important inte r, sts, and who had read the signs of the times, and made themselves acquainted with the circumstances of the country better than be had. He knew those gen tlemen by their statements would give the subject a ten fold greater impression than what he could give, and he had also the satisfaction to know that the case he was about to recommend to the House was simply a confirmation of that which they had already done.—( Cheers from the Ministerial side.) And he was satisfied that the House of Commons, which had the virtue to acknowledge its own deficiencies, and to pass a Bill for its own reformation, would not at this momen recede from maintaining its own consistency—(Loud cheers)—from vindicating its own rights—from obeying the recommendation of the Sove reign. lie hail for one given a pledge to his constituents, and if he were to refuse to bring the subject forward, it might imply a suspicion that he bad forfeited his pledge. Although he admitted that those Noble Persons who brought the Bill forward did not go so far as he was willing to go upon the subject of Reform, yet it appeared to him to• unite the suffrages of a larger portion of the people of England in its favour than he had conceived it possible for any measure, or that any set of men whatever, could be found to adopt.—(Hear.) With reference to this Bill, lie should take the liberty of calling the attention of the House to the cir cumstances under v. hich his Hon. Friends below him were called upon to administer the affairs of the country. That was at such a period that he (Lord Ebrington) almost despaired of the probability of restoring public confidence. He had no wish to repeat all the circumstances in which the country was then placed, because he did not wish to cast an unnecessary odium upon the predecessors of his Ilonourable Friends; butt this he would say, that without resorting to any measures of force, without bringing forward any penal enactments, they contrived to restore the flame and harmony of society, and to put a gradual end to those risings which prevailed to so great a degree in the southern counties—(Hear hear)--and, moreover, they framed a Bill which appeared to him to give a greater degree of contentment to persons of that influential and wealthy class—the middle class—many of whom he was sorry to say were by no means exempt from the bad feeling which pre vailed at that period.—(Hear, hear.) But be would ask, had the laborious duties his Honourable Friends had had to perform—bad the long and anxious discussions in which th e y had been engaged, prevented their doing any thing else for the public its the course somewhat short of twelve months that they had been at the head of affairs? Had the poor man experienced no relief front the repeal of the coal and candle taxes?— had the poor man received no relief front the repeal of the Game Laws? Those laws, which in spite of the attempts of the Right Hon. Baronet o pposi te, had c ontinu e d see to disgrace the statute-book.—(Hear.) sion a ft er session And, though last not least, h the suitor in Chancery gained nothing—(Loud cheers)—had he gained nothing by th e g igantic efforts of that great man, whose almost supe r h u man effort in another place he (Lord E.) would not more particularly allude to ? He asked had the suitor in Chancery gained nothing by the efforts of that great individual in cleansing the Augean stable of that load which had oppressed the suitors of that Court ? Those were acts for which his Noble and Hon. Friends were entitled to the confidence of the country. He was sorry to say that he thought there had been errors in the administration of the affmirs of the present Govern ment, arising, no doubt, from the purest sources, and which had been detrimental to their interests. He thought in this country, and still more in Ireland, there had been somewhat too much of a halting between two opinions. He thought there had been too great a dis position shown to conciliate those who never could be con ciliated—(Hear, hear)—to the acts of what he might call a liberal Government; arid in some instances they overlooked rather too much the claims of those old and tried friends who at all times had given to their pi inciples a cordial support. He thought that his Noble Friend at the head of the Government, in some things that he had done, and in some that he had left undone, consulted rather snore the unsuspecting kindness of his own gene rous nature, than the exigencies of affairs, and the necessary support of Isis own Government—(Cheers from the Op position side of the House)—and, if he were not mistaken, his Noble Friend had within the last two or three days received a pretty severe lesson upon that s core.--(Hear, hear.) He trusted that his Noble Friend would fall into such enrols no more. He trusted that if, by the vote of to-night, for upon that the fate of Government and the e mpire must dep en d— t h at if b y t h e vote of th i s n i ght, which injure an d by the confidence of thi s H ouse , hi s N o bl e F r i en d should be preserved — as i n G o d h e truste d he woul d and cont i nue d c h eer i ng)—at the head of affairs in this co untry, h e would henceforth abandon that ten i nt the mea s ures in s instances c o e f s hadhis Admini stration. been de cidedlyt Thi s a d v i ce he hoped his Noble Friend wo uld not despi se. It was the opinion of many others —the opinion of many of the best fr i en d s o f the porizoianigcu calculated policyto Government as well as of himself ; and he felt the less scruple and hesitation in making this statement, because there was hardly any'service In would pot willingly per form for the Government, es:cept that ef taking any official situation under them. In speaking of his Noble Friend, the Lord Chancellor, he had omitted to state one or two timings which redounded to his honour and virtue. He had reduced his own emoluments to a considerable extent. During one year, when a former Noble Lord held the office of Chancellor, he (Lord E.) had been informed the amount of the bankrupt fee:" came to 20,0001. This ;a formation he had from good authority, At all events the average yearly amount was seven thousand pounds and a fraction, but which at present had been very much curtailed'; and in these critical times, when no man could feel the tenure of office very secure, the Lord Chancellor had refused to allow of an addition maroposed to be made to the retiring pension of the Lord Ch 4 ancello'r. Li e (Lot d E.) had put forward these• claims of the Members of the Government, for time approbation of the !Tense of Commens. He had put them fonward miWe t b a n the great 44. whi ch v ure ""i" WAs the wain feature of fate of a Bill for a Reform in the representation of the people in the Commons House of Parliament, in favour of which the opinion of the country stands unequivocally pronounced, and which has been matured by discussions the most anxious and laborious, it feels itself imperatively called upon to re-assert its perfect adherence to the principle and leadißo• provisions of that great measure, and to express its unabated confidence in the integrity, perseverance, and ability of those Ministers who, in introducing and conducting it, have so well consulted the beet interests of the country."—(Cheers.) Mr. C. DUNDAS seconded the motion. He hoped that he House would come forward on this occasion and express its opinion in such a manner as would ensure tranquillity. Government would quiet the minds of the people by this explicit declaration of their intentions in reference to the measure which so much engrossed the interests of the country. Mr. GOULI3URN—In rising, Sir, to offer some observations on what has fallen from the Noble Lord opposite, and on the motion with which he has concluded, I deem it my duty, at a moment of natural and 1 great excitement, to so far adopt the example of the Noble Lord, as to avoid, in expressing my opi nion, every thing whichritaytend to promote irritation or warmth of feeling in the House. For, however I may differ on other points with that Noble Lord, I concur with him in recommending all abstinence from expressions of irritation with respect to the proceedings in the House, and I sincerely congratulate the House, that we can discuss, even in the most excited state of public affairs, without denying to the other House sf Parliament the full exercise of those lights which we are always prepared to vindicate for ourselves.—(Hear, hear.) The Noble Lord indeed has told us that in propounding at this moment to the House the proposition with which he `has con cluded, he rises under a deep sense of the duty which he owes to hims-lf and his constituents ; I can assure the Noble Lord and the House that I rise also under as deep a sense that I am undertaking a consciem tious discharge of my duty, both to myself and constituents, in offering toy opposition to the Noble Lord's motion. I am sure that after the discussions which have lately taken place in this House, the Noble Lord will not ex pect that I, or those who are on this aide the House, should concur in such a motion.---(Hear, hvar, hear)—a motion which tends to stultify all the proceedings which have taken place on the Bill for altering and amending the representation, and which goes further to contradict the course of our conduct on many other important subjects which have been submitted to the House. And, if I forbear to enter into the arguments so repeatedly urged on this side the House, in justification of the views which we have taken in reference to the particular mea sure of Reform submitted to Parliament, or if I for bear also to advert to those various measures which have suggested the occasion of doubting the wisdom, and contra vening the operations, commercial, political, and financial of the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite, the House, I trust, will give me credit for abstaining, being desirous to adopt the course best suited to prevent angry feelings, at a time when excitement so much prevails abroad.— (Hear.) Indeed, it is not necessary now that I should enter into a detail of former discussions, with a view to show the sincerity of the Noble Lord's motion, The Noble Lord had said that the present resolution was ne cessary to maintain the rights of the House of Commons. Was ever such a proposition heard of? With respect to that measure, has the House not declared its sentiments and opinions, and are we now for the first time to be told that after the Bill has been carried through its several stages and been sent up to the Upper House, if perchance it is lost, it is, therefore, necessary to maintain the rights of the House of Commons, that it should afterwards come to a distinct and separate resolution, But, Sir, when the Noble Lord calls upon us to eater our opinions on those measures to. which I have referred,by a vote of unabated confidence in the Right Hon. Gentlemen who administer the affairs of Government, I think he should bring forward some plausible grounds I on which that vote was to be justified. The Hon. Gen4, l ;.- man then proceeded to say, that in most of thl alz.asures brought forward by Ministers they he,d been defeated, or such alterations had been t . n..?„..1e in them as entirely t o alter their original character. On the Timber Duties Rill Ministers had been entirely defeated, and in severr.lother measures which he could not now enter into the details of, such alterations had been made au he had referred to. Yet such were the men and the measures which the Noble Lord by his motion called upon that House to sanction and support. The benefits that had been cluired by the people from those measures were : r .s,c4 commen surate with the evils that had res;!:ed from them; front the taxes taken off the 1,-410.4c na more advantage had been obtained ti i iAn r. reduction of about 250,0001. Many of the tneaawee on which the House was now called to g;-,,,a a vote of confidence in MiniBters,. had not yet ;r .e into . . could the Nest be a competent ~ t c h t se r? e foW r ei , t h reset to the Game Laws he opinion on the wisdom of judgeo ini i p ,ag e sr faperfectly i rsoucff, willing hbautmehaesuinresan,:he4iisoi:ceedreltxo.l.l;sp: thattilat tD in gi v v i e ew cre w di o t u t l o .d Mi x nistz i s: g o il r i b,z; :ingt . : t pe i r ie ati r oo r : nolpeo 4.y the object it had any , , e _ igin ...,,, , h e preferred to see how the laws they ~, , b fU e l iOr o e ' 11.4 enacted would operate. For that reason, on the g.O-4124 h}::_neg.....4walhianteisyterratidonis,:iteutp: ctl:te:tr,ioNA:::: of the Game Laws, he could not gi,e. si. vote of assumedconfidence b i ea nL t 000ttrih,d, another ri n sl gt i r n i: Ministers tnde::.l;3,:br discharge to:„.:oet;e his t o l d t f o u ct i r o i : e fi b d l e ; L c o ew r , ..... d i sien had o: one L tuop or o d snay ; the n n: o t. person in the 1,10,v;./e eptevtained a higher opinion than C l i Nh i e t ble o c f aLm th oe a vi t tod N ipd ob iro le ni: u L Trn o uc r e d's aa,o jt g u r d e ,g a i t : t ng a ili stationit Nb,-4htichvit'll'hh:en upon the character of a public officer, filling the hlgi. nient, and the Bench of Bishops bad liten alwaya tiled by Anti-Reformers. It could not be considered , herefore, that the decision of the House of Lords was the decision of that race horn which the Peers of the country were generated, namely, the great landed pro prietors of the kingdom. He should therefore support. the resolution of the Noble Lord as the friend of Reform,, but still more as the friend to peace, to propriety, and to order. No observant or intelligent man could contemplate the present state of the country without great alarm. He did not pretend, nor did he expect anything like open. aimed insurrection, but he did expect that the people would engage in a silent war against the law. I appre hend that in a short time, in Great Britain, we should have the same state of things which we had three years ago in Ireland—agitators stronger than the Magiatrate—As oeiations stronger than the Legislature—a Government powerful enough to be hated, but not powerful enough to be obeyed—(Loud cheers)—a people leagued in unconsti tutional associations, because they were debarred from the exercise of their legal rights. Pursuing the scene a little further, you would have the constitutional authority de rided—the strength of the law derided.—the tax-gatherer resisted—the public credit compromised—all professions insecure, and the whole state of society fast hastening to dissolution.--(Cheers.) So it is, I say, unless the Bill. pass into a law ; but often high and Noble Persons tell u#. let the law take its course—the law is strong enough—it has an arm powerful to put down.sedition. Sir, we hare heard this blustering before, We know its value--we know how long it endurerl.—(Cheers.) This, Sir, is the. language of little men who have fallen upon a great crisis. —(Loud cheers.) It is idle, Sir, to talk of the power of law after this fashion. Law has to hands wherewith it may act. Nothing but the assent of public opinion can give it validity and force, An Act of Parliament is no thing but a piece of parchment, with the King's arms at one end, and the printer's name at the other, until the public opinion has breathed the spit it of life into the dead letter.—(Cheers.) See the example—the Government (not this Government) endeavoured to put down the Ca tholic Association—indictments were preferred againse the Honourable and Learned Member for Kerry -they were submitted to a Grand Jury—they were thrown out. Parliament met—and an Act was, proposed to put down the Association. It was pasted— and what was the effect ? The Act had just as much effect upon the Statute.book as one that was made many years back, and yet slumbers there, and which declarer► that no man shall eat flesh-meat on Friday and Saturday, unless he pays a fine of twenty pounds, or be confined for three months—unless he have a special exemption from, the Archbishop of Canterbury.—(Cheers.) The causee. are exactly the same. The Association was not sup.. pressed. On the contrary, the Aksociation threw forth its branches and flourished, and became strong under the Act.—(Bear, hear.) Fitst there way the - election in 1326, and two years after the Clare election, to demon . trate the foil) , of the notion that a nation mitht be ruled by men, wax and parchment.—(Hear, heir ) The Go- vernment of the day felt they had hut the aiternative— concession or civil war. For myself, I do asy, Sir, that I most firmly believe, if the people conceived that the position to the Bill were decisive and final, they woad adopt the same line of proceeding—the same form of re sistanee, which had been pursued in Ireland. Ido not imagine they would he so imprudent —so insane as to break into open rebellion. Ido not conceive they will be guilty of any offenee which can be defined by law. }ha still there would be a sufficient derangement of all put& af fairs to weaken the hands of Government for all domestic arrangements, and for the preservation of our proper dig nity abroad, and to prevent the possibility of redress for outrage, the due observance and aathority of the law, and the accumulation of wealth.—(Bear, hear.) Ought we not then to endeavour to avert a chance so disastrous ? and who are they who now come so gallantly forward to express their entire contempt of agitators and associations and public meetings? The very men, Sir, who to the force and influence of these contemned things surrendered the boasted Protestant Constitution. Certainly, Sir, this note of defiance, so long and loudly blown, comes with peouliar grace from those who ae greatest glory is, that they bowed to the dust before the people whose humble appeals they had insulted until they drove them to madness.—(Cheers.) The Noble Duke and his party then were intimidated by Ireland, but they despised all rising, all display of force in England. This may be well ; but the Government, in its struggle with the Irish Roman Catholics, had Great, . Britain at its b&ck ; but whom could a Government have tr, suppor"i it against the Reformers of England 7..... (CUera.) Sir, i know only two wave in wnizti tv eat caiumunities may be guxersed—by public opinion, and by the sword. It wa.t by the latter means Ireland was go verned by Quiver Cromwell—by William lll.—by Pitt ;„ and ekl, perhaps, it might have been governed by the Duke of 'Wellington. But to govern Great Britain in this wan ner—oh, Sir, I cannot imagine it ; and if any stattuonan were to try it, he would find there was no better sword than that wlalw has been made from a ploughshare,— (Cheers t Sir, I can understand the Government at New York,-Tit subsists by public opinion, I can understand the Government at Milan—it is surted byAustrian bayonets; but how the Government of England could be sustained, when neither the tnuction of the one nor the force of the other cocouldlac. applied, I really cannot understand.— (C*ra,j• In fact, there is a great anomaly in this country laetween the authority of the Government and the power of the people. Our iostitutione are too popular, and not popular enough,-uot sufficiently popular in the making of laws 1,),*,1,t, too popular in the power of evading them. The composition of our Legislature is altogether aristocratic. The machinery, on the contrary, whereby this is pu t i n t o effect, i s as complete4rouocratic ; and th ere f ore are t h ey working in matte ways. Look, f o r examp l e, at our penal lAvri.i, ‘ which are notorious fox a cruelty s' hick a1.4,.:,,01ats almost to atrocity, and see how th e y are miti , , gated by adjudicatiou..,,ou zany occasions at the ex elllie of perjury.—(i444 hea..) Look, again, at out libel laws, au abaurdity severe—laws to which, if they mu d ire ;. - 4,rried, ic.,to raczt, every rational man would prefer is cen s;:r4ip ', and yet, notwithstanding these laus, Press as free as air. Let us runaother that in 1619 new law was passed—a law al great ae verity —agriaft I, IthemOus and secii,Goas lihels,and decilarin h ha. g ' 41,1 tau: or b a ed . ' i ll :0 a n we h re a was twice atA;:;)easively con virted of!!r--st-r- offence, and if to h ad libel '4,6 should be banished forbethe 14 md. How many IRS I returned, transported for t under this Act? Not our. I were banished or trantwor