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Gaolers; - and Keepers of Prisons, in 0 -4 'y any Prisoners, charged with Offences coin -4 the High Seas, or within the said Jurisdiction, , are hereby required to transmit a copy of the Ici:r3' measures may be taken for removing all iclll:ertillefiSfolei%c-ietroyr such u o c f h the P riAs(dmmeriratlotyll,lra. at his R o L ffi E ce , S , te .,_ Lan caster-place, Strand, London, in order that ~_,l l ers to his Majesty's Gaol of Newgate, for trial ''''' intended Sew' • and all Mayors, Justices, will be Sold on the fii st day, and may be viewed thrlotroent only 14 days prior to the sale ; catalogues erects are now preparing, and may be had (at Is.) (t t prior to the sale. The effects may be viewed by , ill , l el only, on Thuisday, June 20, and Friday, June . 'Publicly on Saturday and Monday preceding the p a rticulars of the lease may also be had of Messrs. 1 4, 41,1 Curtis, Upper George-street, Portman-square, Gray' s Inn-square. , FREEHOLD DETACHED VILLAS AND I y~ 4 ARDENS, LAND TAX REDEEMED, et_ 4 44 ' , arge Plot of Garden Ground, held for 300 years, ik4 *Wall part for 75 years, at Pepper corn Rents, Upwards of Two Acres; situate at STEWART'S GROVE, CHELSEA, Near the New Church. I TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION , By Mr. LAHEE, tilt Auction Mart, on MONDAY, the 24th of June, at Twelve, in Three Lots, k Convenient detached Flt EEHOLD ko t , ha VILLA with Coach-house, Stable , Plea s ure and Gard,-n ; let to a respectable tenant on lease 1 110 1 ,1 to expire at Lady-day, 1840, or at tenant's S i l tt Lady-day, 1837, at a net rent of 901. per st 2. A PLOT of GARDEN GROUND, with an V's frontage, held for upwards of 300 years, at a 4 1 1 ,:c c °rn, and a small plot of Ground annexed as garden t it , held for 75 years also at a pepper-corn. t 3. A FREEHOLD HOUSE, with large Garden ; I ng to lot 1, with considerable frontage on two , t 1; let t o a respec t a bl e t e nsnt, who paid 1001. premium „ Yeats, from Michaelmas, 1827, at 501. per annum, its tenant's option for a further term of four years, at 1.41:4 annum. Premises may be viewed with tickets, to be had, il l Printed particulars, at Ur. Lahee's offices, 65, New street. "T.—IIIPORTANT FREEHOLD ESTATE. "E FREEHOLD and MANOR o, ktl SWANSCOMBE, with all its rights, privileges, t bril:PPluttenances, most delightfully situate at Swans r'ear Gravesend, and extending downwards to the l ~ l yank of th e river Thames, with the high road to t;1: t 4 ,,!" Paris running through the Estate, will be sold ton, i n 23 Lots, by Mr. Adana Murray, at Garra eoffee-house, on Monday, the I st of July nxt. s tate contains I,OIOA. 2a. 12 r. , and is divided d ap for the convenience of Purchasers. No situa -44 be more picturesque and enchanting , combining 1 1 , 7 4 kv 1, 4 % . ( 11and, water, and distant scenery, probably un to the whole county of Kent. It is an interesting 4:lli ii tid ependently of the beauty of its situation being t iv - e til arly of the ttrightest events in the history of our ki t lin:? U ntry. A man of taste may here enjoy the rational L i t iilaruting pleasures of rural retirement, or recreate frorn the fatigues of business, while the short dist. kti v v ft „"al London (only 18 miles), and the facilit y of l i ti k i lit t r l eei both by land and water, afford ampl e oppor ilttkt,:)f Partaking, at pleasure, of the diveisi nus a n d L 1 1f ehts of the metropolis. It is presumed that this N fr uli und u l a ti ng , and commanding situation, em- Cltti alike ext e nsive prospects of a beautiful country , heart stirring scene of innumerable shit i iping, 0,1 their tre as ures from all parts of the world to the 2-andon, added to the short distance from the ca iii ' I LI render many of the allotments eminently de- CiA l Or the erection of Villas, Cottages, Oroees, and )t, :_,lltitry Residences. The property includes rich I N tl auetiv e Arable, Pasture, Meadow, Marsh, and th da, Chalk-works, Rail-road, and Shippnag-wharf 1 1" th arnes,—Housys, Gardens, Cottages, &c. ef Ul arla and Specifications may he had (after tie Lkl; 4 June) of Mr. Adam Murray, 61, St. Martin's 11,Zits, Esq., 5, Allred-place, Bedford-square; <9...: l Lnt, Harrison, and Tennant, Gray's arraway's Coffee-house, Change-alley, Cornhill. t ),7 01 Intended Session : and ait mayors , JIMILC., f 0 1 ,., and other Officers, before whom any Inquisi - lac k Zell:Wi ens , E xam i na tions, or Recognizances may 14,4 P iingki. rait r ii..., the same forthwith to Mr. JOHN CLARK , ' e C° llo 41._0f Arraigns of the High Court of A dmi- 6, 01 Zgland, at his Office, at the Sessions House in 104 0 -41 London. 1, GEORGE ELLIOT. tocl§, tAs t atrlt li t T INDIA HOUSE, JUNE 5 , 1833 . I, d COURT of DIRECTORS of the un ' NIT ofd 0 „ ED COMPANY of MERCHANTS of itta v 'J , TRADING to the EAST INDIES, 60 0 g ive Notice, pirilictothei Committee of Shipping are ready to receive e I:beyei in writing, sealed up, from such persons . as II e 4 „2„:s.negrytioceocceouziygoTeodntnoagßeeonngabi.oard Ship. in the iplail l %l 441 of Tender may be had upon application at the sel it ( t aolt h ; Office, and the Proposals, with the words tage t e d Ofa r pn fe r Freight" on the Cover, must be left at serfll ' -... if PETER AUBER, Secretary. ,% ' ' 'owea ~ FOR EDINBURGH. up o h '. ''' L LEITH AND LONDON NEW jt i es, *". b o A tTEAM-sHiPs, ROYAL WILLIAM and mpose l _,l ti i ,„ ADELAIDE, each 200 horse's power, are now to itee', 4 4 4 7° to sail from the St. K ttharine's Dock Wharf, he PA: and will land their Passengers, &c., in Leith s kin -1 1 :s as follows '— Z. 4 :44 AVILLI A li, Wllll Saturday, June 15, at Ten, P.M. Sn."Bo AI Ll ` l , Commander _ r 1 the itit.te,"ELAIDE, JAS 1 Saturday, June 22, at Ten, P.M. , it 1,;-ommander i 4 4 "ILLIAM Saturday, June 29, at Ten, P.M. ,Ildli eg I every following Saturday till further notice. ct i v e. i ',?1,.., r F ARES , INCLUDING PROVISIONS. 0 t I.:‘Cabi £4 4 0 lied Ito vos dnit i to 2 to 0 of tj a ges, Horses, and Goods, on Freight as usual. er)--' 10 . ~ bon obtained, berths secured, and Goods re - ,ur Al t o , • I. lllipment, at the Leith and Glasgow Wharf. Also , yoo t‘ k nobertson, 164, Strand ; H. Underwood, 56, it ' e t; M. Saunderson, Boar and Castle Inn, OR- IG. . . t; Mr. Stark, Old White Horse Cellar, Picca. t ii . Kl n't Mr. Gilbert, Blossoms Inn, Lawrence-lane , llo:l where light goods are received, and forwarded "earf till Five o'clock on the day of starting. cee JOSEPH ADAMS, Agent, 've r Leith and Glasgow Wharf. routill AIN 1 151i 00 R B ING MANUFACTURED STOCK OF che°,l Ni t IS.L BANTING, FRANCE, AND BANTING, y, bno, Manufactory Scagliola Columns, &c.,. removed from their st O r r, manufactory for the Convenience of Sale. E 3P ,i TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION, e it i l l 'or a, ~, By Mr. LAHEE, ' ad i r l a lawn's Rooms, 26, C nduit. street, on MONDAY, ,boto k ' 7 , at twelve, by order of the late Firm, to close the 7, 0 ttt e etlunts, the term of the partnership having • bas "- he 5d0:11, 'IB remaining STOCK of CABINET , rot ..4 ( .',.'vORK, of elegant designs, and of the choicest atTalso 41'0 coprising library tabls, consles, an ele ant I C , 'vet with Florentine mosaic pannels o to the interior 0 ,-, eB° ?ttlahogany circular centre tables, bed tables, a t h_ l e table, pembroke and dining tablets, a carved and r oe tr - "al screen, poll ditto, work tables, washing tables, . , ~ , e 03 I' e "4s, dumb waiters, camp tables, tea chests, a chain- `, , a small billiard table, footstools, various bed- % • 4 ,: 131 43re, and other useful articles, which being of otb" ." 11 Inanufactnre it is needless to say that the work• r °. 71 01 0 i r ottS o , i !s of the first order. 7 ts it I . ', 7 , Piewed on Saturday previous to the sale, when ver, tr , may be, bad at the Rooms, and at Mr. Lahee's waf : ' 65 , New Bond-street. dispal e ,,' tat e itindair r Mrs. Crompton's Residence, No. 33, Bryanston - e, beld at a pepper-corn rent for '763: years, and the Valuable Effect ose t,O t• LA ,ieldl is respectfully notifies, that he instructed by the Executors of the I ,te.Mrs. be" n"'• is t o A t submit to PUBLIC COMPETITION and 3 W% ®reserved nait ior e ri ,SALE, on the premises, 33, Bryanston- -44 01 ,:_,I ) ToEsnair, the 25th of June, and several fol- ' or der, a _uays, all the various elegant and genuine Effects of , s o t b .. r:ased ; comprising wines, plate, and plated ware, 1 to w . ' t a gs, prints, elegant books, ornamental china, china 1 00011 0 ' glass services, harp by Erard, objects of natural , b ., tbi ,_, in shells and butterflies, a chariot , a pony, mosaic, 3 f ee lr Il eterie, and Parisian furniture, musical and other d ~trip d led console tattle from Wanstead-house, and all the rr r e‘ e ge° ' kh. an d excellent household furniture. The whole of !1,1 ire t O O `e ,?ve has been selected both in England and on tin . at 'with the utmost liberality and best taste. Tin r sd k - 11 r e .g be t 00 0 0 1, , sis D ji • r ref:: 0. o f ".0 (No. 12,717.) ABBOTSFORD SUBSCRIPTION. SUCH of the SUBSCRIBERS to this FUND who have not yet paid the amount of their Subscriptions, are earnestly requested to forward the same to Messrs. Coutts and Co., the Treasurers, for the pur pose of immediate Investment. N.B.—Subscriptions continue to be received by all the principrl Bankers in London and she Country. THE COURT of DIRECTORS of the LONDON ASSURANCE CORPORATION hereby give Notice, that, for the convenience of their Friends, and the accommodation of the Public in general, they have OPENED an OFFICE, under the Manage ment of GEORGE ARCHER SHEE, Eq., at No. 43, PALL MALL, where the same facilities for the transac tion of Fire and Life Assurance business will be afforded as at their Office in Bircl,in-lane, and where orders for Marine Assurances may likewise be given. Attendance daily, from 'l:n till Four o'clock. JOHN LAURENCE, Secretary. 'MINERAL MAGNETISM, A novel but powerful remedial Agent in Nervous Diseases. DR. „R. BLUNDELL, 13, Orchard-street, Portman-square, Las in the press a Treatise on the application of Mineral Magnetism to the cure of Ner vous Diseases, in which the effects of this novel hut remedial agent will he physiologically demonstrated. This Treatise will record several cases in whic'i Iris improved Magnets (of very superior power) have been found instrumental in the relief and cure of Tic-Doloreaux, Rheumatism, Toothache, Palsy, Gout, Spasm, &c., which had long resisted every other form of treatment. (Vide " Lancet," June 1.) ELIGIBLE RURAL RESIDENCE, Combined with Sporting of every Description. ANY Respectable Married Couple , with one or two children, or single Lady or Gentleman, can be accommodated with BOARD and LODGING by a respectable Family, in a retired situation in a northern county, where rural quiet and comfort, combined with Sporting, might induce them to make it a permanent home. The situation is highly desirable for any Gentleman or Lady labeuring under a slight mental bereavement. Address (Post paid) A. B. Herald Office, York. THE ADVANTAGES of the PRO POSED NATIONAL BANK of ENGLAND, both to the Publ , c and its Proprietary, briefly explained. By THOMAS TOPLIN. London : Published by Ridgway, Piccadilly ; Bald win and Cradock, Paternoster-row ; and all Booksellers. Price 6d. • THE COURT JOURNAL, published on Saturday next, June 15th, will contain, among numerous other interesting articles, Sketches of the Fe male Nobility, No. VL—Marchiuness of Ahercorn—Men and Women of Fashion, No. lll.—Nicander—Kensing ton Gardens—Scraps from Lady Julia's Album—Bulle tins of Fashion, from Herbault, No. I.—Last Moments of the Duke of Reichstadt— National Tribute to the Na tional Goillery—With all the Fashionable Topics of the Week. Supplied by all Newsmen and Booksellers, postage free. Office, 19, Catherine-street, Strand. In a few days will he published, price 55., APOPULAR HISTORY OF PRIEST. CRAFT in ALL AGES and NATIONS. _ By WILLIAM HOWITT. Help us to save free Gospel from the paw Of hireling wolves, whose conscience is their maw MILTON'." London : Effingham Wilson, 89, Royal Exchange. NEW WORK BY MR. BULWER. Just ready, in 2 vols. post Svo., E NGLAND AND THE ENGLISH By the Author of " Pelham," Richard Bentley, New Burlington.street. (Successor to Henry Colburn.) Now ready, in 2 vols. Bvo., with fine Portrait, engraved by Dean, from an original Picture, MRS. INCHBALD'S MEMOIRS and CORRESPONDENCE. Richard Bentley, New Burlington-street. (Successor to Henry Colburn.) BY COMMAND OF THE LORDS COMMISSIONERS OF THE ADMIRALTY. Just ready, in 2 vols. Bvo., with numerous Plates, Maps, &c., CAPTAIN OWEN'S NARRATIVE OF VOYAGES Undertaken to Explore the Shores of AFRICA, ARABIA, AND MADAGASCAR, Performed in his Majesty's ships Leven and Barracouta, from 1822 to 1831. Richard Bentley, New Burlington-street. (Successor to Henry Colburn.) TRANSATLANTIC SKETCHES. This day was published, in 2 vols. Bvo., with numerous Etchings, &c., CAPTAIN ALEXANDER ' S 'TRANSATLANTIC SKETCHES. CONTENTS.-City of Stabroek—British Guiana—Set tlers on the Coast—On the Abolition of Slavery—De scription of Barbadoes—Tobago—Trinidad—Grenada— Jamaica—Cuba-11 , tvannah—Visit to New Orleans—ln dians of the Backwoods—Scenery of Kentucky—De scription of York and Kingston—The Rideau Canal— Sail down the Ottawa—Stay at Montreal and Quebec— Condition of Settlers in Upper Canada—Opening of Congress—Visit to Washington, New York, Connecticut, &c. Richard Bentley, New Burlington-street. (Successor to Henry Colburn.) EGYPTIAN HALL, UPHOLSTERY and CABINET MANUFACTORY, IS NOW OPEN. The CABINET MAKERS' SOCIETY, at the request of their Patrons, have taken the whole of that extensive and splendid establishment, the Egyptian Hall, Piccadilly, which is arranged in the following Fourteen Departments : 1. Carved Gothic Oak Chairs, in the style of the various reigns, from William I. to William IV. 2. Chamber Furniture. 3. Dining-Room Furniture. 4. Drawing-Room Furniture. 5. Silks, Tabarets, Damasks, Moreens, Chintzes, &c. 6. Plate-Glass, in Burnished Gold Frames. 7. Ormolu and other Lamps. S. 3,000 pieces of Paper Hanging of the best quality, from 2d. a yard. 9. Stoves, Grates, Fenders, Fire-Irons, &c. &c. 10. Scagliola Pedestal Tables, in great variety. 11. English Bracket and '1 able Clocks. 12. Mr. George Robins's Patent Filters. 13 Miscellaneous Articles. M. Auctioneer, Estate, and House Agency. Estates and Houses Let and Sold free of expense. The Public can now see the Hall, with all its arrange ments, free from charges. Warranted of the best materials and workmanship, cheaper than any other house in London. The nobility, gentry, and public are solicited to inspect the largest and best selected stock of cabinet and upholstery goods in England, suitable for all purposes, from the cottage to the mansion, at the Cabinet-Maker's Society, Egyptian-hall, Piccadilly, and 71, Leadenball, which is enrolled agree ably to Act of Parliament, and founded for the support of industrious mechanics, who all combine to produce only the very best articles, at the lowest possible price. The funds of the Society provide fur its members in sickness, old age, burial. The Society beg to return sincere thanks to their numerous patrons, including Royalty, Nobility, and many of the first families in the kingdom, for the ex tensive and generous patronage bestowed on them during the last eighteen years, and hope by their humble endeavours to merit future favours ; at the same time, they earnestly solicit a trial, as the only criterion by which the merits and decided advantages of this establishment can be fairly estimated. Every article is marked at the lowest ready money price, and from which no abatement is made ; they are all warranted, and, if a fault appears, exchanged within 12 months, free from charge of any kind. A printed list of articles and prices will be forwarded on addressing the Secretary, by letter, post-paid only. By Order of the Trustees, THOMAS HASLER, See. Egyptian Hall, Piccadilly, or 71, Leadenhall. The Hampshire Telegraph in announcing the appointment of the Parliamentary Committee to in quire into the British Channel Fisheries, says—" Tbis is a most important question, and one peculiarly interesting to the South of Hampshire, on the mud and sand-binks of which myriads of oysters are propagated, from whence they are fished up and transported into the fresh water estuaries of the Medway, Timms, and other rivers; but by injudicious management millions are daily destroyed in the spatting season." LONDON, THURSDAY EVENING, JUNE 13. 1833. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, JUNE 12. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Wool sack to-day soon after four o'clock, when the Consolidated Fund Bill was read a third time and passed. Earl O'NEILL took the oaths and his seat. Some private Bills were advanced a stage, and the House adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, JUNE, 12. The SPEAKER took the chair shortly after five o'clock. THE LEGISLATIVE UNION. . Mr. O'CONNELL gave notice, that on the very earliest 'day possible in the next session, he should move a resolution declaratory of the means by which the destitution of the Irish Parliament was effected—of the miseries which the measure called the Legislative Union has produced in Ireland—of the evils which it his inflicted on the agricultural labourers and operatives in manufactures in England—of the accu mulating pressure of the poor laws which it has created in England, and of the inevitable separation of both countries, which must result from continuing the Union as at present arranged and acted upon. And also for leave to bring in a Bill to render safe, secure, and permanent, the connection between Great Britain and Ire- land by the means of the re-establishment of a Domestic Legislature in Ireland. Lord ALTHORP said he did not intend to interfere with the other orders of the day ; but, if he had had an opportunity, be meant to have brought forward the subject of tithes in Ireland for 1831, 1832, and 1633, but he would not press for precedence. Mr. O'CONNELL trusted that for the sake of the country the House would permit the Noble Lord to bring in his proposition on this subject. Mr. PRICE said he was in possession of the House by a notice, and if he were now to put it off, he did not know when he should have the opportunity of moving again. He bad given notice in February, and here he was in June. Lord ALTHORP could not ask,the Hon. Member to give way, but there could not be any more Enclosure Bills this session, which he (Lord A.) understood the Hun. Gentleman's motion exclusively related to, and if his pro position were brought forward any time during the session, it would have the same effect as if it were to take precedence to-night. Mr. PRICE said that as that was so, he would with draw his notice for to-night. In answer to a question from Lord CHANDOS, Lord ALTHORP said it was not his intention to let any Government business interfere with the Church Tem poralities Bill beyond that of his Right Hon. Friend on the West India question. u pon Mr. H GRATTAN'S suggesting to an Hou. Friend of his the propriety of withdrawing some order of the day, . . . • The SPEAKER intimated to the House the necessity of proceeding with some degree of regularity, and in pur suance of the rules laid down by the House.—(Hear.) An HON. MEMBER asked the Noble Lord (the Chan cellor of the Exchequer) if he could state when the ques tion relative to the Bank of England was to he again brought forward, for there were many country bankers now waiting in London in expectation of its being brought forward at an early period? Lord ALTHORP said, from the great quantity of business before the House, it was impossible for him to fix any day, but it was his intention to bring it on as tepidly as possible. As to the gentlemen who were stated to be waiting in town, he could only say that be had had com munications with a great many of them, who hail pressed upon him that he would not proceed in any hasty manner to interfere with the system of bank. ing.—(Hear.) He had stated to them that he would not engage to postpone it, but that from the state of pub lic business they would have ample time for considering the subject. The NOBLE LORD again rose and said he did not know whether the House would at once take the orders of the day, or permit him to proceed with his measures. On those accounts he moved that the Bill be read a second time that day six months. Mr. EWART did not think the present time was the proper one for discussing the Bill, when many important questions were waiting. As an amendment he would move that the Bill should be read a second time that day week. Mr. LAMB rose amid much confusion in the Howe, from the Speaker having ordered strangers to withdraw. We could only collect that the Honourable Member was of opinion that the prisoner should have the same privilege of an address in his favour by counsel, as was enjoyed by the prosecutor.—(Hear, hear, bear.) He hardly knew how the House was posited on the question ; but he believed it to be, whether the Bill should be read that day six months, or that day week, and be should certainly vote for the shorter period. He must say that he had never heard a more triumphant case than was made out by his Learned Friend when he moved for leave t• bring in the Bill.—(Hear.) Mr. HILL said he rose to express his opinion on the working of the present system, which was, that it absolutely called for such a Bill as the one before the House.—(Hear.) The Hon. Member opposite had said there were few in stances in which innocent persons had suffered ; but he would ask the Hon. Member what were his tests of innocence? After trial there were no means of proving the innocence of a party who had been convicted. He would ❑ot now go into a discussion of the Bill, as it would not be treating the House fairly ; but he must say that be thought nothing was more the duty of the Members of that House than to protect the innocent front being confounded with the guilty. The Hon. Member declared that he h..d known persons to have been executed, who he firmly believed to have been innocent. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said his objection was that the proposed measure would be altogether impracti cable. He would frankly admit it was unjust and scan dalous that there should he a speech for the prosecution, atld that the mouth of the prisoner's counsel should be closed. He should, therefore, as he had said before, wish that the mouth of the counsel for the prosecutor be closed, or the prisoner's counsel be allowed to make a speech. But the present Bill in the existing state of the judicial esta blishments would be impracticable from the length to which the sittings at the Old Bailey, at the Assizes, and at the Quarter Sessions would be prolonged, so that the As sizes, which were obliged to be held between the terms, would last two months at one county where the busineis was now done in t'te space of little more than a week. After some further discussion the Bill was ordered to be read a second time that day se'nnight. LAW AMENDMENT BILL. . Mr. LENNARD moved the order of the day for re ceiving the report of the Law Aniendment Bill. The' Bill was limited to the single point of taking away the punishment of death in the case of breakin g into a house in the daytime. He hoped the Bill would be allowed to pass without opposition. It was called for by the present state of public feeling on the subject, as expressed in nume rous petitions, one of them signed by 1,100 persons accus totned to sit on London Juries. As Sir William Grant wisely observed, it was most important to the ends of justice that the feelings of the people should be consulted. After the manner in which this question had been argueil on several occasions by Sir Samuel Rotnilly and Sir James Mackintosh, he should be sorry to find it now meet with any opposition, particularly from Ministers. Mr. G. LAMB felt himself obliged to oppose the Bill from a sense of duty, and, as the support of such mea sures was an easy mode of getting popularity, it was natural to suppose that be opposed it with reluctance. He opposed it, in the first place, because be thought it desirable that there should be further time for considering the subject. He must enter his protest against it for another reason, which was, that, under the system of mitigation hitherto pursued, crime was greatly on the increase. He would call upon the House to look to the cases in which the punishment of death had been taken away. The punishment in cases of forgery was mitigated last year, and the crime had since most lamentably increased. It might be said that it was net the crime but the prosecu tions had increased. This idea, however, was now aban doned even by those who most fondly entertained it. Sir S. Romilly and Sir J. Mackintosh had not an opportunity of seeing the result of the experiment, and their opinions ought not to be set up against experience. For two years capital punishment in cases of forgery not having been in flicted, the punishment was supposed to be virtually abo lished, and the crime did not increase. It was natural, therefore, to conclude that it would not increase when this punishment was removed from the Statute Book. The con trary was the case. He believed the existence of the capital punishment on the Statute Book had a great effect in preventing the crime, as it was natural it should. Horse-stealing also was not diminished, and coining ap peared again. It was said that under the present law, a child by putting his hand within a window, and stealing a bun, became liable to death. It was so; but, under the alteration now proposed, a full-grown man may enter a house in the daytime and steal 30,0001. without any risk of life. He contented himself with merely enter ing his protest against this mode of legislating by separate and unconnected Bills upon a subject of such high im portance as the criminal code of the country. It was im possible satisfactorily to legislate for the prevention of crime in this manner. So many Members came forward ' to mitigate the severity of the criminal code, taking away the punishment of death from the most grave offences, that if the system were proceeded in it would operate as a measure of impunity to crime. Mr. BERNAL thought with the Hon. Gentleman who had just sat down that it would be much better and more satisfactory if the Government were to take the whole question of the criminal laws in hand, with a view to their amendment, upon some given and ascertained principles, so that every separa te part might in fact combine and harmonise with all the rest into a perfect system. The omission to take this course gave the Government infinitely more trouble in answering and opposing the different Bills that were brought for ward without concert or correspondence by different Members of the House. He could not, however, con cur with the Honourable Gentleman in the observations he had made respecting the abolition of the capital punish. ment for the crime of forgery, and the consequent, as he had alleged, increase of that particular crime. The Hon. Gen tleman had dilated much upon the bad effects, as he ex pressed it, of that alteration of the Criminal Code. Was it possible that he could contemplate the going back to the sanguinary state of law from which they had departed? Such a proposition, he was sure, if ever made in that House, would neither be sanctioned by the House nor the country.--(Hear.) It was, however, necessary that in proportion as they softened the rigour of the criminal law they should adopt some efficient secondary punishment. Solitary confinement had been tried in America and found completely successful.—(" No," from Mr. Limb.) Surely it would not be said that it had not been found successful in the great gaol of Auburn, where it had been tried with great care, and upon which a full rerert had been made, which be thought the Hon. Gentleman could not have seen. Then, as to the prevention of forgery which the Hon. Gentlem a n s t a t e d h a d increa sed so much since the abolition of the ca pit o l p un i s hment. A secondary pu nishment of a m ore severe nature would be a very good thing in the punishment of that offence. At present forgers upon being sent out to the penal colonies were ge nerally selected fer what were called situations of gentility, such as clerks in stores, or cashiers. He could not help lcolting upon this as a very erroneous part of the system. Mr. STRICKLAND did not feel satisfied with the statement of the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Lamb) that the number of forgeries had increased in consequence of the abolition of the ca pital punishment. Before be could im plicitly believe the fact to be so he must know whether the Hon. Gentleman deduced the fact from the increased num ber of prosecutions or from the increased number of offences. The latter only would justify the statement as to the effect of the abolition of the capital punishment. He was himself a magistrate of a populous district, and he knew that after the mitigation of the punishment attached to any offence th e n u m b e r of prosecutions always increased; and it must be known that great reluctance existed in the minds of society to prosecute for forgery so long a death was the punishment, which of course would not operate when that was removed. Some secondary punishment ought certainly to be adopted, and there should be great care in the selection. He thought that no adequate rea son had been shown for opposing the specific amendment now proposed by the Hon. Member for Maldon. Mr. LLOYD could not consent to oppose this or any other specific amendment of the criminal law because it was brought forward in a separate form, unless his Ma jesty's Government would pledge themselves to prepare a comprehensive alteration, which should render it more in conformance with the general feelings of the community. Not even the Hon. Under-Secretary of State himself ( ➢ iucE ID.) would say that the punishment of death should be attached to every ffence for which it was prescribed in the pres, nt state of the criminal law. There might have been an in crease in the number of prosecutions for forgery since the law had been mitigated ; but that had arisen because of the indisposition so generally existing to prosecute by reason of the great severity of the laws. He should not dwell upon this subject further at present, as it was his intention, should this Bill be lost, to propose another connected with the same question. He fully concurred with the Hon. Member who had brought it forward, and should certainly give the Bill his support. Mr. HILL concurred in the necessity of some general revision of the criminal law of this country. Too great severity created crime instead of suppressing it. In for mer times the criminal law was as sanguinary in practice as it was now in the letter. In the reign of Henry VIII. historians stated that no fewer than 70,000 persons were executed. This showed that the terror of the laws did not prevent the commission of capital offences. On the ether hand, as the criminal law had been relaxed in 'eve rity, offences had diminished in number. Even so late as the end of last century it was dangerous to walk out into the streets of London after dark, so many desperadoes were abroad, anti were seen even in broad day-light in the streets, but so well supported by their followers that the police dared not attack them. This was the statement made by Fielding, and confirmed by many contemporary authors. Now, how different was the state of crime. In the metro polis but little insecurity as to life was felt at any hour of the day or night, and the number of murders was very small compa , ed with what it used to be. He knew many persons who never would prosecute where the punishment was derh, not choosing to be instrumental to the loss of life in a fellow creature. This feeling was spreading—( Hear) — and it would be found to be impossible, unless they had Judges totally disconnected from the people, and actuated by different feelings and sympathies to execute a state of law which was at variance with the opinions of the majo• city of the people. So long as the Jury system formed part of the judicial system, it would not be practicable to maintain a system of laws which was contrary in its spirit to the feelings of the people. The number of the prose • cutions was not a just test of the increase of crime, as had already been observed by other Members. To argue that it was, was to argue like a clerk of the peace, who judged solely by the increase of his own business, that there must he a large increase of the offences for which his services were put in requisition. It was not a correct mode of ascertaining the point. The Hon. Under-Secre tary had talked of softening the criminal law as giving impunity to crime. Surely sending a man to Botany Bay for life was not impunity. At least it was that sort of impunity which he (Mr. Hill) should be very sorry to experience for any offence of which he might ever be guilty. He hoped there would be some general systematic amendment of the criminal law; but in the meantime be hoped separate and specific measures for that purpose would be brought forward. Mr. SHAW thought it would be impossible so to amend the criminal law as altogether to supersede the necessity of discretion in the Judge. It was impossible to draw the exact line which should render discretion in the Judge un necessary. There were no doubt anomalies and apparent contradictions in the system as it was written; but these disappeared when the actual practiceof the law was looked into. At this time of the year the capital punishment was taken away from a burglary committed at three o'clock in the morning. That, perhaps, required amendment. On the other band, the case which had been put of a girl breaking a window and stealing a bun showed how diffi cult it was to make a rule which should operate impartially and harmoniously in every possible case; and it showed also bow essential it was that the Judge should have a dis• cretionary power for the purpose of adjusting the balance in all such cases. With respect to burglary, the practice now was in all Crown cases to leave the words " break and enter" out of the indictment, unless in cases marked by features of great atrocity. Whatever advantage might be gained by a general and systematic alteration of the law, he thought great evil was engendered by these attempts to amend it by separate and disconnected efforts. Mr. AGLIONBY thought a general amendment of the criminal law would be preferable to the present mode, but he preferred to have it amended piecemeal rather than not have it done at ail. He should give his support to the Bill of the Hon. Member for Malden. Mr. ROTCH considered that the best mode of prevent. ing crime was by making the laws for its punishment cer- I tain in their nature and sure in their execution. They had now got a measure of decided amendment before them, and he hoped the House would not allow it to be lost from the mere expectation of what might be done hereafter. Mr. EWART said be should support the Bill before the House, but he thought it would be improved if the hours within which the offence became changed in its character should be distinctly defined. He thought the hours should be named in the Bill, and be from ten o'clock at night to five in the morning throughout the year. Par liament having modified the law as to the higher class of delinquents, were bound to do it as to the lower order. He hoped to see the criminal laws of this country more consonant with the feelings and opinions of a civilized people than they were at present. The report was then brought up. On the motion that it be read, Mr. SHAW asked if the last clause had been left out? If not, he was sure the Old Bailey in this country would become useless for the trial of offences. Mr. LENNARD said that the last clause had been expunged at the suggestion of the Hon. and Learned Gen tleman. The Hun. Member proceeded to show from sta tistical accounts that in many of the great agricultural counties the crime of sheep-stealing had decreased since the relaxation of the criminal code. Certainly he would admit that there were two cases of forgery which bad been prosecuted, and which cases were of a peculiar cha racter. The one was the case of the forgery of a will, which was not prosecuted to conviction ; and the second was the forgery of a bill of exchange, to which the pri soner pleaded guilty, and he was sentenced to punishment for the minor offence. The House should consider that hundreds of petitions had been presented to both Houses of Parliament, praying that the punishment of death should not be inflicted upon any person for forgery ; and he thought it would be clear upon all bands that secondary punishments would more effectually prevent crime than the chance of a criminal prosecution, or the still less chance, if the law were to take its course, of inflicting the punishment of death. With respect to the prevention of the crime of forgery, he thought the certainty of con stant and hard labour, together with imprisonment, would more effectually operate against it than the uncertainty of the punishment of death. The French Government had anticipated the inquiries of our own upon this subject in America, and it was there found that their system of pri son discipline had done more to prevent forgery in Boston, New York, and other large States, than the chance of inflicting capital punishment upon offenders.—(Hear, bear, hear.) Vindictive punishments never could effect any good purpose, much less operate to the prevention of crime. —(Hear, and cries of " Question.") He would not, seeing the temper• of the House, detain them any longer, for he was sure they would at once agree to his proposition.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. G. LAMB explained. Mr. ROCHE said a few words, which did not reach the gallery. Mr•. LLOYD said he only rose to say a few words on the principle involved in this question. The SPEAKER begged to say that the Hon. Gentle • man must perceive the object in discussion was the report of a Bill to remedy the existing criminal laws, and the question was, was the object of the Hon. Member's ob servations to go in pari materia with the subject matter? Mr. LLOYD said lie would bow with great submission to the decision of the Speaker. The proposed amendments were then agreed to. The report was brought up, and the Bill was ordered to be read a third time on Wednesday next. SUPPLY. On the motion of Lord ALTHORP, the further con sideration of the Committee of Supply was deferred to Friday next. TITHES (IRELAND). —THE COERCIVE BILL. Lout ALTHORP moved the order of the day for the House to go into a Committee on the Tithes' (Ireland) Act. (Order read). His Lordship then moved that the Speaker do leave the Chair. Mr. LAMBERT rose to move an amendment. He did not wish to embarrass the Government, or throw the least difficulty in its way; but he felt that he bad no other course to adopt than to move an amendment to the motion of the Noble Lord. He bad been prevented, last night, from making the motion he intended to make, and from giving that explanation he thought it his duty to give ; and having been prevented from then making his state- PRISONERS' COUNSEL BILL. Mr. EWART was sorry to interfere with the measures of the Noble Lord, but he felt it his duty to proceed with the Bill for allowing Counsel to prisoners. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said be should be bound to oppose it, for the subject was of great importance, and in the present state of the legal establishments of the country, he was confident it would be impracticable to be carried into effect. Mr. EWART said he should not feel justified in post• poning it. The Clerk then proceeded to read the orders of the day. The first was the Transmission of Property (Ire land) Bill, which stood for the second reading. It was postponed. The next was the Prisoners' Counsel Bill. Mr. EWART moved its second reading. Mr. MASON seconded it. Sir C. STEWART thought it was very unusal to move the second reading of a Bill, without entering into the details of it, and he wished to hear what the Hon. and Learned Member had to say in support of it. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said if it was the wish of the House that this Bill should advance a stage, he should offer no opposition at present to the second reading. Sir R. PEEL objected to this Bill in principle, and, therefore, he should object to the advancement of the Bill a single step. Mr. O'CONNELL designated the present practice as al together monstrous. It was productive in many instances of the most frightful injustice, he would say, in some cases, to the extent of mur der, particularly when conviction depended on cir cumstantial evidence.—(Hear.) It was the grand object of an ingenious Counsel to predispose the jury for a conviction,and thus circumstances immaterial in themselves appeared before them in fatal magnitude, and the counsel for the prisoner was prevented from giving those expla nations which would have turned the circumstances very much in favour of, instead of being against, the prisoner. He hoped the Bill would be allowed to pass a second reading, and then be referred to a Committee up stairs, with the view of having some change effected in the present system during this session. Mr. STRICKLAND supported the principle of the Bill. Mr. SHAW deprecated the mania for legislation which prevailed in the House, especially in the administration of the laws, Mr. HARVEY said there were so many important Bills already before the House, that this could not be properly discussed this session. Perhaps it had better go before a Select Committee. Mr. EWART said be had no objection to referring the Bill to a Select Committee, after it had been read a second time. Mr. SLANEY wished to see some measure adopted to give prisoners fair play, but he could not agree to this. Sit ROBERT PEEL suggested that the best course would be to withdraw the Bill and refer the subject to a Commit tee. Sir JAMES SCARLETT concurred in the suggestion, and deprecated the practice of pissing important measures at a late hour without discussion. Mr. PRYME did not consider this to be a fit subject to refer to a Select Committee. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL concurred in the sug gestion made by Sir Robert Peel. Sir C. STEWART begged to be distinctly understood as only objecting to the Bill, because he thought it would he injurious to prisoners. The House then divided, when there appeared— For the reading of the order of the day Against it Majority On our re-admission, we found Sir C. STEWART addressing the House. He slid his great objection to the principle of the Bill was for the prisoner's sake. A prisoner would place his hopes on the speech of Counsel, and an ingenious Counsel would try to make such a speech as would, in his opinion, warp the opinion of the jury. He would call the atten tion of the House to the standard of evidence now prevalent in the several cases of felony, misdemeanor, and civil causes. In the Court it was well known that a very slight balance of evidence would turn the scale, in a misdemeanor a considerable weight of evidence would carry a verdict, and these were to cease where Counsel were allowed to address the jury, while in felony it required that the case should be extremely clear. If the Bid were allowed to prisoners, a criminal Court would become a mere arena for speech making, and the gravity necessary in a criminal Court would be lost sight of. That might be an unpopular view of the case, but it was the duty of that House to do that which was right, whatever it might be thought of out of doors at the present moment.--(Hear, hear, hear.) went, lie felt Mosel Wised to being it before the House as an amendment to the motion of the Noble Lord. He could assure the House that he never felt greater pain and anxiety than be did at being compelled to purbue this course ; but it was the only one which was left him, in order to do justice to himself, and to those lion. Members who, like himself, would not have supported the Irish Coercive Bill, had they not been assured that it was not to be applied to the collection of tithes. He bad no other means of doing an act of justice to his own character, and the character of those who had supported that Bill, than to place the circumstances fairly before the country. It would be, no doubt, distinctly in the recollection of the House, that at the time the Coercive Bill was introduced, he stated that some measure was-necessaryto restore tran- quillity to that country; but he declared, at the same time, that no consideration on earth should make him consent to any such Bill, so long as it was to be applied to the enforcement of the collection of tith• s in Ire land. The House would recollect that the Nob'. Lord had then given a solemn Pledge to the House, Er rather two pledges, en the subject; and confiding on those pledges, conceiving that they would be re deemed, he and others bad voted for the third reading of the Bill.—(Hear, hear.) He had taken every pora'a pains to have a correct account of what the Noble Lord then said, and had collated two short reports or the Noble Lord's speech. From these report* it appeare.l that the Noble Lord had said—" It had been stated as another ob jection to the Bill, that it was only a cover to enable Mi.. Dieters to collect tithes.—(Hear.) He was anxious to be clearly understood on this point. He mid a.sure the House, that so far from that (the collecting of tithe,) being . . the object of Ministers, they . should feel that the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland would abuse the discretion which the Bill would invest him with, if he declared, in the exercise of that discretion, that any district was liable to the appli cation of the provisions of the Bill merely because tithes were not paid in that district.—(Hear.) To make the refusal of tithe payments a pretext for enforcing the Bill, would be, he repeated, acting quite contrary to the feel ings and intentions of its framers ; indeed, quite foreign to their views and detertninatima.—(Hear, hear.) He wou go further, and say, that thuugh the suppression of White- foot offences was the main and sole object of the Bill, and though he had reason to believe that the resistance to tithe was, in many instances, mixed up with these offences—. indeed one of them—yet, in order to convince the most . . sceptical that Ministers bad no other object in proposing the Bill than restoring and preserving the peace of the country, be should have no objection to the insertion of any clause or provision which would prevent the applica tion of the Bill to any offence of which the resistance to the payment of tithes was a portioa.—(Hear, hear.) He repeated again and again, that Ministers had but one sole object—the asserting of the authority of the law. The Bill had no reference to the collection of tithes or any other individual purpose, and, he would add, could or should be applied only to the maintenance of social order." That was the Noble Lord's speech, and relying on the per sonal character of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, he had brought forward an amendment which was in perfeot unison with the language of the Noble Lord. It was, he thought, admitted that the Bill was not to be employed in levying the arrears of tithes, but he had also thought that fact ought to be stated. He, therefore, did bring forward an amendment, which he would again recall to the House by reading it—" Provided always, and be it hereby enacted, that it shall not be lawful for the Lord Lieutenant or other Chief Governor or Go vernors of Ireland to apply the powers conferred by this Act in any way to any county or district merely because tithes shall not be paid in such county or district; and be it further enacted, that the provisions of this Act shall not be applied in any way for the purpose of levying tithes, or enforcing the payment thereof." He bad found, however, that objections were made to his amendment. The Noble Lord stated that he bad no objection to the first part, which was, indeed, in the letter and spirit, a mere copy of the declaration of the Noble Lord that the Act was not to be applied to the levying of tithes. The Noble Lord stated that he did not oppose the first part of the amendment, but that he did not approve of the latter part. He acquiesced in the lopping offof a part of his amendment,conceiving that what was essential was retained, particularly as the Noble Lerd then repeated his declaration, that—" it was intended by Government, as be (Lord Althorp) had already stated, to propose a plan to the House which would render it quite impossible that this Bill could be applied to the collecting of tithes. The plan which would be proposed by Govern ment would be one whereby the arrears of tithes would be got rid of, the only thing to which this Bill, during the time that it was likely to last, would by possibility be ap plied." That declaration of the Noble Lord removed every shadow of doubt from his mind. The Noble Lord bad repeated the declaration he had made on introducing the Bill, and had said distinctly that it was not to be applied to the collection of the arrears of tithes. It was said at the time, that the declaration of the Noble Lord was un called for, and that it was imprudent. He had, how ever, never doubted that that declaration was most necessary and most called for ; for, if the Bill had come before them without that declaration, certainly it would not have been possible for him—and he believed for many others—to give their assent to it.— (Hear.) But for that declaration he believed that the House would have scouted the Bill ; and certainly but for that declaration he should have considered the measure most unjust. But how could it have been passed but for that declaration? The House would recollect that a Bill had been passed vesting in the Crown all the rights to the arrears of tithes, and enabling the Crown to collect those arrears by all the powerful means at the disposal of the Crown, as a creditor. That Bill was a failure—(Cheers) —a mischievous failure—(Cheers)—as had beeu foretold by those who beat knew the state of Ireland—(Cheers)— but those who did not know the state of Ireland were de termined to pass it, and it was passed. Now, would it be supposed that any assembly of honest men would have listened to any Minister who should have come down to the House, and stated that " the Tithe Bill, with all the powers it gave to the Crown, has been a failure ; but do you give us the high-pressure engine of despotism, and we shall succeed ; do you suspend the Constitution—enable us to imprison men at our pleasure—try them by courts martial—abrogate all their rights, and we have no doubt we shall prevent all those disturbances which have been created by this very Tithe Bill of ours, which has been so complete a failure ?"—(Cheers.) It was quite impossible to suppose that, without such a declaration from the Noble Lord, the House would hays suspended the Constitution to support the Ministerial failure.—(Cheers.) The de claration of the Noble Lord, therefore, was prudent, and even necessary. He had been warned not to place confi dence in that declaration ; but he had stated he should be sorry to believe that the Bill, in spite of those pledges, would ever be applied to tithes, when the Ministers had also pledged themselves to bring in a plan by which the arrears of tithes were to be got rid of.—(Hear.) He con fided in that pledge. He wrote immediately over to Ire land to all the persons in his own neighbourhood, and to many persons living on the borders of the connty of Kil kenny, telling them that the Irish people might rely on the Ministers, who meant kindly towards them, and the Bill would surely never be applied to the collection of tithes. He had quoted the words of the Chancellor of the Exchequer. He regretted that he had done so, but he could not believe that the word of the Minister would not be kept. He had succeeded to a considerable extent in convincing the people that his own opinion was correct; and what had been the consequence? He stated that the Ministers had pledged their most sacred word that the Bill should not be applied to collect the arrears of tithes, and that pledge had been moat scandalously and most disgrace fully violated.—(Cheers.) It was on the 16th of Apri!, he believed, or about the time that the county of Kilkenny was proclaimed in the neighbourhood of New Ross, that a party of the police gave notice to all the farmers round that they must have the names of the inmates of their houses written on their doors, and cautioned the farmers to appear at their doors—for so the police said—and an swer to their names when called upon by the police. The farmers did as they were directed by the police. On the night that the Coercive Bill was enforced, the police came in a large detachment, and went round to fifty-seven farmers, many of whom owed money for tithes, and had kept out of the way, but who, relying on the security , they had been promised, bad returned. The police, how ever, came down upon them with a large military detach ment, called out these farmers, obliged them to come down, and arrested them for arrears of tithes. —(Hear, and cheers.) For claims made on the part of owners of the tithes, in the dead of the night, when these men had been gathered together by their confidence in the Government pledges, down came the police and arrested them. They were marched off to prison at the point of the bayonet—(Hear, hear)—and, though some of them were eighty years of age, they were not permitted to rest, but were urged forward by threats and insults.—(Hear, hear.) In another part of Kilkenny a mere outrageous case even than this occurred. He alluded to the case of Sergeant Shaw of the police, who arrested about thirty persons for arrears of tithes in the night time, and most of them for small sums. The Hon. Member mentioned several cases. The first was of a man who was sent to prison for an arrear of tithe amounting to Is. Bd. ; another tor 4s. 2d. ; a third for ss. 2d. ; all of whom were arrested and sent to the county gaol. In other cases, in which the men owed 2s. Id., 2s. 2d., they had found the means of payment, and Were released. These men were