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Was it betanse his Majesty'. pi Ifinisters did not possess the oonfidenee of the House of I '.,tj Commons that they desired to dissolve it ? It was no matter 16,: ef surprise that they did net possess that confidence ; they 14 1 were a Government of e xp e di en t s — a vacillating Gover n - I ment, that never deliberated before bringing down a me.- Nitre to Parliament, and was then compelled to move about front point to point, always infirm of purpose. It wa. .2 therefore evident that Parliament ought not to separate in the manner that that Government had advised the Crown to recommend them to separate--they ought not to seps rate wittolit providing for the possible occasion for which ..,. nothing less than artattgensents for a Regency could atle- r , 1 quately provide. 64 Articles. Periods of Delivery, VO Tons as soon as pos. 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My Lords, according to the ancient Consti tution of this country, the Parliament would have been immediately dims dyed on the demise of the Crown ; bat, my Lords, owing to an Act which passed in O A; reign of King William, and which was continued ,tt reign of Queen Anne, both Houses are now ei!,!Mg.. My Lords, his Majesty's servants have hutr;dy advised his Ma jesty to send this Message in, while his Majesty in forms your Lordships, ths,', notwithstanding it is in the power of Parlk;titent to sit six months longer, lie has been ;educed to declare his intention of dissolving it upon an early occasion, and that it is not hie intention to bring forward those measures under your consi dwation, which, under othercircumstancen, it might be con venient to have proceeded in. It is necessary, therefore, my Lords, that I should state generally to your Lordship what are the views and intentions of his Majesty's Go vernment, and what their motives in giving his Majesty the advice they have done. My Lords, we are now ar rived at the season of the year in which it usually happens that Parli :meet has been drawing to its termination Business has been so advanced as that generally, within a month of the present time, the business of the Session closed. It is not necessary, my Lords, that I should call your attention in detail to the present state of business. It is enough for PM to request your consideration to the votes of the house of Commons, and the vote* of this blouse, by which you will see that so much business still smith)* to be brought forward, that his Majesty's Mi nisters thought it their duty to advise the King to adopt the course which be has done, and unless hie Majesty had taken the course which he has, there could have been no hope of the close of Parliament fur a very considerside time. Under these circumstances, and considering the calamity which has recently befallen us. and which has beta axpeeted fora considerahla Period, all Snell knowing that when that event took place a new Parliament moat be called, and a general election take place, his Majesty has thought it better to ad-' vise the close of the present Parliament, under the cir cumstances stated, and also in consequence of there having been for the lent three months considerable excitement throughout the whole country is mute queue of the expectation of a general election. His ' Majesty's Ministers could not, therefore, have enter tained a hope of keeping in town a sufficient num ber of Members to carry on the business which must sooner or later be brought under the consideration of Par• liamont. Under these circumstances his Majesty's Mi nisters have thought it their duty to advise his Majesty to putt an end to the present session as soon as possible. Measures, my Lords, will be brought forward in the other House, and therefore it is not necessary fur me to enter into them here, for the purpose of taking into account the estimates that have already been laid before Parliament, and also for the raising of such sums as may be necessary for carrying on the business of the State. These measures are neves miry to provide for the honour and dignity of the Crown. All other measures, soy Lords, will be postponed until the meeting of another Parliament. Under theft circumstances', toy Lords, I shall move that an humble Address be presented to his Majesty, to return to his Ma jesty the thanks of this House for the communication which his Majesty has been pleased to make, mud to express the deep sense which this House entertains of his IlLjesty's kindness in king unwilling to recommend to the at tention of Parliament at this advanced period of the Session, and the present state of public business, any new matter which may admit of postpon emen t w i t h out any detriment to the public service ; and to assure his Majesty that this House most cordially joins with hint in opinion that it would he most conducive to the general convenience, and , to the interests of the country, to call a new Parliament with as little delsy as possible ; and to assure his Majesty that this House will apply themselves to conform tcs such measures, and will concur in making rub temporary provision, as may he requisite for the con duct of the public service, in the interval that must elapse between the close of the present Station, and the assem. tiling of a new Parliament. CM the motion that the Lord Chancellor read the Ad- Earl GREY rose, end said,—My Lords, I must confess that it did appear to me yesterday, that the proposition contained in his Majesty's most gracious Message was one of the most novel and extraordinary kind that I ever wit news'. My Louis, if that was my impression yesterdays, I 111110 say that that impreession has not been dimieished by the very inefficient and unsatisfactory explanation which the Noble Duke, at the head of his Majesty's Go vernment, has been pleiseeil to give of the course he means to propane to puma on the present occasion. My Lord'', he began his speech by stating to your Lordship. the effect and object of the law pained in the reigr of King and continued in Queen Anne, by the authority of which law we are et this moment assembled. That law was passed fior the purpoee of enabling Parliament to sit to enact legislative provision* in CARS of emergency, That being so, my Lords, and if it should appear to you, as I trust it will, that there are at this moment subjects of great im portauce, calling for our irntnediats interference, which cannot be delayed without injury to the public service—if such be your Lordship.' impression, then I think your Lord ships will see that there is no necessity for calling on your Lordships to assent to the proposition of the Noble Duke. My Lord., we are called upon to make a temporary pro vision for the service of the State, which, it is said, is neeesaery to be provided for, in order that they may be satisfactorily performed in the interval that awl claps between the close of the present Session soil the assembling of a new Parliament. That is one of the propositions of the Noble Duke. Another, my Lord., is, that we are met to express an opinion of the propriety and of the necessity of the itnaredi ite dissolution of Parliament. My Lords, I perfectly concur with the Noble Duke, in what he has stated as to the expectations of the probable alias°. lotion of Parliament, and tilat considerable anxiety Iris arisen in the contemplation (,t that event, and the evils that would result from the keg thened delay of i dissolution. This evil, it it be one, is out only of comparison ; and we inti.t weigh well before we avoid this lesser, lest we should fall into a deeper one. We saw this evil approaching us 'luring the long and afflicting illness of his late Majesty ; men's minds werevertatily directed with great carnestnesi to his Majesty, but still, my Lords, in the mean time, the business proceeded under an administration, as it appears to me, incapable of directing Hear, and cheers. ) My Lords, the Nolie Duke has told your Lordships that much time i 4 requisite still to complete that business which ordinarily would have been brought to a termination at this period. What proof have we that the business may nut be completed within a convenient time? Is it not my Lords a most extraordinary thing that we are to be told upon this occasion, afier Parliament has deliberated fur upwards of fire months upon those measures which were recommended by his Majesty at the commencement of the session, that they are to be delayed, and that hie Majesty's Ministers are in such a state of embarrassment that they find it impossible to proceed. My Lords, I defy any man to understand what is the object of his Majesty's Ministers. What are we, my Lords, now asked to de ? We are to confide in Ministers who have brought us into the situa tion in which we at present find ourselves. We aro .to confide in the means of going on by such an unreason.. able proposition as the one now submitted to the Howe. At . the same time it is proposed to your Lordships, in order to get tit of the increase of business, and to avoid the con fusion that would be introduced int ) the public service if some provision were not made, to place in the hands of the Ministers, who have already shown themselves incompetent to manage the business of the country, a temporary grant of public money. In what manner had they already de• served the confidence of Parliament so as to establish ground. fur its future confidence ? See, my Lords, the extraordinary circumstance under which your Lordships are called on to adopt this addremis.—(llear.)—My Lords, since the law was passed in the reign of King William, there has been occasion frequently to call it into practice. On the acces sion of Queen Anne, on the accession of King George 1., on the accession of George 11., on the accession of George 111., and on the accession of his late Majesty, the Perlin meat continued to sit under the authority of this law. At an earlier period of our history, it was frequently necessary that Parliament should, after the demise of the Crown, be re-assembled to watch over the public interests. This bad happened at all periods of the year. The accession of Queen Anne took place in January (some Noble Lords said August, some March, and Earl Grey correcting him self, said March). The accession of Queen Anne was in March, that of George I. in August, of George 11. in June, of George 111. in October, and that of his late Ma jesty, George IV., in the month of January. An accea sion, therefore, bad happened at different periods of the year, and under every possible combination of circum stances ; and in all these circumstances Parliament had continued to sit and to act. The only exception was on the accession of his late Majesty, when Parliament was immediately dissolved ; a precedent which it seems is now :0 be followed. In all the other cases, Parliament, whe ther autt;.!ily sitting or in rezee ; lei! having to he assem bled, and at all periods in former times, had not found it inconvenient to sit; and in almost all eases the Parliament had settled the Civil List, and provided for the support of the Government and the dignity of the Crown before it was dissolved. All the precedents of these former periods were departed from in February, 1820. The Parliament which was assembled at the demise of George 111. had it measure recommended to it similar to that now recom mended--a measute to make a temporary .provision fur the support of the Government, with a view to an immediate dissolution. But that precedent was not a good precedent. There are more precedents the other way, and precedents more worthy to be fol lowed ; but I will not pertinaciouly insist on the ne cessity of settling the Civil List before the close of the Parliament as an argument why the precedents of farmer times should be followed, in preference to the precedent on the accession of his late Majesty. I must, however, call on your Lordships to consider under what circumstances the Parliament was then placed. Par liament met in February, having previously met for short time. The Session was just entered on ; neither Supplies were proposed nor Estimates brought in, nor were there any alterations of the laws proposed. All the busi ness was to begin de novo ; and the time required for the consideration of them and carrying them into law. was so great that the time, it was stated, would moire at which the Parliament must les dissolved before they could he completed, which would occasion, as was represented, great difficulty, inconvenience, and danger. It was, there fore, recommended. to Parliament not to engage in any measures which would protract the period at which Par liament might be dissolved, without any evil consequence or danger resulting from the dissolution. But how are the circumstances now? Are we at the beginning of a Session of Parliament ? Have wenot time to pass the mea sures, not now to begin but in progress? Most we begin ' the whole business of the Session de novo 7 No, my Lord.. On the 4th of February, his Majesty's most gracious Message recommended some important measures, they were in accordance introduced, but some of them were not in so happy a state of progress as could be wished, or as the situation of the country required. It was neces sary for the good of the country that these measure, be brought to a termination before Parliament was dissolved, Far be it from him to wish to interfere with the Royal Prerogative ; but his sense of public duty obliged him to object most strenuously to the motion of the Noble Duke, Ile could see grounds of opposition in what was stated, and also grounds in omitting subjects that ought to, have been introduced, which called for the serious consideration of that House. lie wen not prepared, nor did he expect to hear, the proposition of the Noble Duke, and he hoped their Lordships would allow a further time for the. consideration of the important matters contained in the Message from the Crown. Nothing could be further from his thoughts than to titter a word of die. respect towards the distinguished individual who brought forward time motion ; but he wished that the Noble Duke and the Government had anticipated a subject which had been under the consideration of many of the Members of that House. It was a subject which he alluded to with great delicacy. He was well aware of the Willits and regular life of his present Majesty, and he might be blessed with long life, but at the moment he was addressing their Lordships how many were summoned to their last account without any notice. Under such circumstances, therefore, when the uncertainty of life was considered, what danger must the country be exposed to without a Parliament. Their Lordships would consider what a condition must the country be in if there was no successor to the Crown appointed during the minority of the next heir. Unless some provision were made, the moment the Crown descended to a minor sovereign, however young he or she might be, that mo ment be possessed all the rights of Majesty. In such state of things, the probability of which was very slight, the consideration of the subject ought not for a moment to tie delayed. lie did not know in what terms to bring the subject under the consideration of their Lordships ; he did, therefore, hope dist further time would he allowed. He should never shrink from any duty Ismeause it was painful; and be hoped their Lordships would consider that the public interests and the public safety required something to be done., lie thought the proper mode to introduce the subject to which he bad alluded would he by a recolumentlation from the Kier, and if the Ministers would have the boldness to propose such a course, he was mitire hie present Mairety would nut object to it....-(Hear, hear. )--He did not wish to do any thing but in the roost respectful loan nee, and only wished to recommend the adoption of such measures es would be conducive to the hunour of the King and the good of the country ; but be must at the Noblesame tha ty time Duke, i e )l nter y ica , amid n a P o e: t i t ; : w i t y n " a g et t hiosa:fgcattoiihtnis constitutional Govtm e rnment l a r 1:1:::: o t e i ra t t i n b o as y n n oc a o ef t im ef t it e )ia t t n - t. lismcntary g r ants. the Government of the country should not by any measure be thrown into anarchy anti confusion, which, if the pro. position of time Noble Duke was seceded to, was a poi. 'Why that he could not exclude from his mind. Undme such circumnotences be dill entreat the Noble Duke to al low of further time for the consideration of an address to the throne. If the 1\ obit) Duke did not accede to this he should endeavour to press it upon the consideration of their lordships by way of amendment. Ile should do it in terms the most respectful. He very much he. mented the necessity and the shortness of time that had elapsed since they were made acquainted with his Majesty's most gracious Message, but from en imperative sense of public duty he felt called upon to propose an amendment, that that debate be adjourned till to-muorrew evening._(clear bear.) Time Earl of tiAItROWBY stated, that he could not a g ree with army of time observations of the Noble Earl; but lie approved of the proposal with which he cuncluded.-.. (Hear, hear.) He differed with time Noble Earl in his view of the state of public business, and thought that it would be, looking at the advanced period of the &slime for the bock of the public, that the business befitre Per liament should be postponed. It appeared to him that, p u u si i n ,l g ic a l l ) l u,, p i s n ts es si s ble m i l l i i c li h ge e n o e u e l , 4 there not would ould remain a ina" and of carried through,as few Members of th e o th er h ouse would remain in town, and those few would be occupied with their own interests, it would be better to postpone all business which could be postponed. With respect to the settlement of the Civil List, the Noble Earl said he would nut insist on that: and with respect to the second point, to which the Noble Earl had alluded, and which was of great importance, if the Noble Esrl, with all his great talents and habits of public speaking, found a difficulty in addressing their Lordships on it, other Noble Lords might well decline say ing anything on the subject. He must agree with the Noble Earl in Paying that lie bad not overstated, he had understated the possible danger to which the country might be exposed. The Noble Earl had stated that A minor might be the King ; but it was quite possible that, at the demise of the Crown, there should be no King. He would ask their Lordships if it would be possible to ray who is the King at the demise of the Crown?—(Hear.) Ile saw that the allusion he made was fully comprehended by the Noble Lords opposite; they saw the grounds of the d ffictilty of determining who should be proclaimed King, Au heir to the throne was at all times possible, and there might yet be issue to hie Majesty. It was not only p oe . Bible in law, but it was not improbable in fact, that at the demise of his Majesty there might be in an advencedatage of existence a being who would be entitled to all their Lordships' allegiance, and what step would it be possible to take to provide for such a possible contingency? He was aware of all the difficulty of legislating on the subject, but some measure might be provided as a temporary expedient, not as a permanent law. It would be possible, he thought, to point out a person on the spot capable and proper to be entrusted with the power of Government. He thought, in such a ease, her Majesty the Queen might be autho. rised to exercise the powers of Government fur six weeks or two months after Parliament should assemble, or for six weeks or two months after Parliament were assembled. There was a person near the throne competent to exercise the functions of Royalty, and apparently the best person who could be selected in whose hands to place the Royal power, should such a calamity occur as had been hinted et. Ile only threw this out as a suggestion. He would consider her Majesty the Queen in the light of a trustee for the possible infant or 'Lir Presumptive, for a shout period. Ile considered the subject on the whole as sur rounded with difficulties, and he should vote for the post ponement merely on the ground that it was necessary to have a littl e more time to consider it. The Earl of WINCIIILSEA supported Lord Grey's amendment. The only motive which induced Ministers to recommend the dissolution of Parliament mast be the consciousness of their own inability to carry on the public business. At all events Parliament ought not ti separate until some pros;siaei vole made id the case of a demise of the Crown. Ile hoped they would agree to postpone the question. The LORD CHANCELLOIL—IIe was anxious at this early peri, d of the debate to express his opinion. The question, as it appeared to him, was purely one of ex pediency—whether they should go on with the present Session of Parliament, for the purpose of completing that !atinees which was already before Parliament, in addition to the subject alluded to by the Noble Earl, or whether they should at once put an end to their present delibe rations, in order to resume the general business of the country as early as possible. It appeared to him, when he considered the conveniences and the inconveniences of the case, that the conveniences greatly predominated in favour of the proposal of his Noble Friend. They had ass opportunity of knowing, front the votes of the other House, how the business stood there, aid he would ven ture to say, that if in addition to that business they were to take into consideration the two points to which the Noble Earl had alluded, many months must elapse before they could come to a close. Besides which, be begged to ask if so late a period of the Session was a judicious time for bringing on the discussion of questions of so great im portance ?—(Hear, hear.) With respect to the House of Commons, would it not be found that many Members were absent, and that many others were attending their electioneering engagement, ? and then, he would ask: whether, under theist, circurnateueee, it would be possible for theist to proceed with a subject ? The Noble Earl had re-' fared to the nature of the measures existing in the ether froteae, and had pronounced a sweeping condemnation of them. He could not consent to meet the Noble Earl on this subject in this sort of side-wind way; but he was confident that he could show that there was no ground for Bitch a charge. It had been said, that the Civil List might lie postponed; but if Parliament continued sitting, it would be disrespectful towards the King not to take that subject into consideration...Meer, hear.).--And let them recollect what was the nature of that measure, and what were the inquiries to which it would give rise, In 1820, When all the propositions for the Civil List had been in preparation fer three, four, or five years, nevertheless the single discussion of that question occupied the Atten tion of Parliament for five weeks ; they, therefore, could not expect that it would be less than several months in this instance. With respect to the other measure, lie must confess that he did not indulge in the gloomy anticipations of the Noble Earl : and he was tonfident that he could satisfy their Lordships, that the country did not stand in 'a different situation from former occasions. What was the case shortly after the accession of George the Thi r d ? The nit itw of Wales was b orn; W as the ease on that event immediately taken into consideration? On the con trary, he believed three or four Seasiona were allowed to pass before any allusion to the subject was made. All that was now required was the lapse of two or three months. In his apprehension the case with respect to infants was the same as with Sovereigns of a maturer age. Podiament would meet, as it had met on the present occasion the Privy Council also would assemble in the same manner, and the proceedings in all these respects would be the tune. It was in the power of a minor Sovereign to choose his own servants, and therefore if the previous officers of State were continued in their situation, it would be their duty to bring the question of the Regency before Parliament ; if others were appointed, then on them would all the responsibility of the Government devolve. In both cases the same &Ili , cultic* which had already been suggested would follow, except in such cases as when the heir happened to be the son of the reigning Monarch. Pediment, in such cases, had never interfered, but had always thought it more wise to wait the course of events; and then, if anything called for interposition, the wisdom of Parliament was always able to find an adequate remedy.—No inconvenience, in his opinion, could follow from the delay that was con templated ; and even if the circumstance to which the Noble Earl bad Alluded, should occur, no practical in convenience would ensue; for Parliament would imme diately meet, and provide for the difficulty. On these grounds lie should give his snppurt to the proposal of his Noble Friend. Viscount GODERIC4 could not conceive how any one who adverted to the course of business in the House of Commons could fail to see that nothing was done—( Heer, hear)—and if they were to separate without having dune anything, it would produce in the country such a degree of inextricable confusien, as all the skill, power, and in. tenuity of the Noble Duke would never he able to re. medy.---(Cheers.)—lt Was not necessary to state in de. tail the measures to which he referred; but they were some of the most important interest, as regarded the commerce, agriculture, and finances of the country, all of which seemed to hint to be in such confusion, as to ran_ der it impossible for Parliament to adjourn. It was very well to say that it was the fault of gentlemen who sat in the other House of Parliament---(hear).--and that tlay had neglected their duty, because they had not given ready assent to all that Government had proposed...- ( Heer, hear.)—Of all reasons for advising the King to dissolve Parliament, that appeared to him to be the worst and lie was astonished that any one would venture to pay the existing Parliament so bad a compliment. This then is a consideration which ought not to be overlooked, and he should like to know, before he voted with the Noble Duke, to which of the measures already before Parliament Government intended to apply itself for the purpove of having them settled—whether it was to be by withdrawal l i --whether by again having two or three alterations-....0 r whether by leaving them altogether to take their chance: They would he deserting their duty if they did not attend to time consideratione, and if they did not endeavour to impress, on the Government the propriety and necessity of reconsidering the measure proposed that night. With re.. gird to the other topic which had been started, he would not take on himself to add much. He could not how. ever admit that the case which the Noble and Learned Lord had brought forward bore upon the point. lie thought that it rather went to that there was a tie. cessity for insvaediate consideration of the subject than the reverse, and he thought there never was a case in which they were more hound than now to take care that they (lid not proceed beefily, ineonsiderately, or rashly. The Earl of ELDON hoped he shoeld Le estensed if be offered a few words in explanation of the reasotis that ift doted him to support the amendment of the Noble Earl. He had no inclivatioa to make any observations on the conduct of the two Houses of Parliament during the i te m s ! o n n t ; in a e n a t a l n re h , e e o u 1 t d h o t u h g e h r t e fo t re Lt l ooakt least at th ey pr es e n ttlie ought to adopt t h e p ro p osa l ci f postponing the subject to th e f o ll ow i ng evening. If, however] it were supposed that he hail any objection to an early appeal to the people of England, in order to deter mine, in a Constitutional manner, what they thought of the measures of the Government, it was a great mistake. If that were the only question in view, no one could he more anxious than he was for a dissolution that very night. They had beard a great deal of dissatisfaction stated in rumours and reports. He should, therefore, be glad for the people to have an opportunity of expressing that die satisfaction by acts rather than words; and when that opportunity WWI afforded, if they (lid not avail themselves of it, he should say that it was their own faults if they had further occasion to make use of the language of com plaint. Ile would not undertake the task of answering his Learned Friend on the Woolsack, but the impression made on his mind, notwithstanding the speech of his Learned Friend, and of the Noble Duke was, that they were both strongly in support of the pmpoaition of the Nottle Earl.—(Cheer.) Ths Noble Dnke had told them that the Parliament, in the reign of William UL, had thought it right to alter the Constitution of the country as far as regards the instant dissolution of Parliament on the demise of the Crown, and to give it a limited power of meeting and sitting after that event. Surely, if this chewed anything, it chewed the necessity that had been felt by that and subsequent Parliaments of having a Session after the death of the King, instead of an itnmediate dis solution. From the style in which his Learned Friend had talked of Royal infants, one might conclude that he thought them just as good as any ; and for the matter of that, he dared to say, that if he (Lord Eldon) was a Mili tary Prime Minister, he shoulsl like nothing better than an infant King.—(Loud cheers.) They had already, through the good offices of the Government, admitted into power what lie must still call idolatrous and superstitious; and the next step in the way of power, be supposed, was for them to have a little infant, of what size he really did not know, but, as far as he could guess, lie really did not believe that if it were placed under the ample integuments( which covered his Learned Friend's head, they would be able to see it.—(Cheers and laughter. )—And wty was all this to be? Because the law, in what the Scotch would call its fiction, and in what we call its preeutnp. wappuzi AIWA V.n infant, if Royal, had as much sense es if it had arrived at the age ef threescore and ten. But take this case as applying generally, and see vi!!4her it would lead them. Suppose they were to have another Guy Fawkes, and all their Lordships were to be blown up .if his Learned Friend was so lucky as to escape..-before the successors to the Peerages could be settled, and the next brothers admitted to the House, it would be fleece sary to inquire how many widows there were, and to ad mit no Peers presumptive till it was seen whether there was not so many little Peers inclosed in the bodies of those widows. It was, therefore, on the grounds of ins policy and inconvenience that lie should vote against the Noble Duke's proposition, and because it was evident that opriety required that the proposition of a Regency should not flow from the Parliament, but from the Crown itself. Lord ELLENBOROUGH, from hereditary regard for the Noble and Learned Earl who bad last addreksed them, would regret more deeply than any one the supposition teat they had been addressed for the last time by him; but he must at the same time expre.s a hope that they bad ' for the last time beard the. Noble and Learned Earl Wraps theta in a tone of jocularity on a subject which com manded such general and heart-felt sorrow, as a calamity. (Hear, bear.)--He certainly must say that he had not expected to hear from the Noble and Learned Earl such a tone in adverting to this important subject, and which, be would also add, be had beard with equal regret and e'er prise.--(Hear. )--The general desire of all must he to adopt , such steps as would be most conducive to the public ben.- fit. The Noble Viscount hail declared that nothing had been done ; but if that was the case he should like to know on what view of the subject the Noble Viscount had, within the last few days, founded the hope that much could now at this state of the Session be done ? All the difficulties of the case were increased. The Members of the House of Commons were now certain of that dissolution which previously they bad only apprehended. The Noble Earl (Herrowby) had admitted that there were no hopes of con eluding the business before Parliament witk advantage to the truistic service ; and therefore if these two questions were added, how much more hopeless must the cause be ? It had been said many years ago, " Stay awhile, and we mil make an end the sooner." He thought that this was a wise maxim, and because he thought so, he should sup port and he w ou ld say, s n o rt e v e F r , that l e ha il behg l never gt as the of e ! h l 1 04 ‘3,1 his t given an opi n i on w i t h a fi rmer in the judgm en t h e h a d formed. He regress f es exc ee dingly what hail fallen from th e Noble Eat! (Gr e y) ; and advert. ing to the conduct which that Noble Earl hail pursued since the formation of the present Government, he must say that be had not expected such a declaration. But at the same time, since be entertained those opinions, he re joiced that he had expressed them, so that they might know who were their friends and who were their enemies. Great as might be the danger of having such an opponent its the Noble Earl—..great as was his pain in seeing that he was at last and unexpectedly arraigned against them..... still they would maintain themselves in their strict path of public duty, reckless of what might be the consequences to themselves. The Noble Earl seemed to have forgotten that last year the present Government had earriesi a measure in pursuance of the same detertnination which he (Earl Grey) had year after year contended for, and which he (Lord Ellenborough) would take upon himself to say that no other Government could have carried. For the sake of the principles by which they were actuated, they had run the greatest risk; and in the same course they would continue, in spite of the opposition of the Noble Earl, as long as his Majesty was pleased to require their services_-(Hear, hear)—endeavouring to the best of their abilities to maintain the public interest, and to further those ohjecte which it was his Majesty's desire to promote. The Earl of HARROWBY briefly explained. The Duke of RICHMOND would tint detain rAuvv.i t d: h til e ir Lordship, many minutes with any general observations upon the question in discussion, still less would he pro ceed to answer the speech of the Noble Lord opposite, and for the obvious reason, that the speech consisted of nothing less than an attack upon the Noble and Learned Earl near him—an attack upon a character which stood infinitely higher than did that of the Noble Lord himself. lie (the Duke of Richmond) should not have troubled their Lord ships with even that short notice of the speech of the Noble Baron, were it not impossible for the Noble and Learned Earl to rise in his own defence, having already spoken. It was merely necessary to call their Lordships' attention to the circumstance, for nothing could be more needless than fur him (the Duke of Richmond) to take that defence upon himself, for the character adverted to was above all reproach. As to what the Noble Baron bad said of another Noble Earl, it was equally unneces rimy to reply to that, for in the short period which had been given far reflection since those observations bad escaped from his lips, be must have anticipated that he should rue the hour when he had dared--aye uncoe stitutionally dared to attack that Noble Earl —he would say unconstitutionally dared to do so, for no Minister had a right to impute motives to any cle)7trairollfy Phaatriliaunnednetrs--too((C1 ri t e l s ie of No " bl N e o ila n r o o ' n " et ' s ") (l — ay ! I ng e 1 1 glad his opponents had avowed them that he was xelves—for that it was much better to have a known opponent than a secret enemy. Now he would appeal t, their Lordships if that was not imputieg moiives.—( Hear, hear, hear.) Could any moan, with the principles or the feelings of tvgentlemate sit indifferently tinder such impu tations ? If any Noble Lord was of opinion that the Noble Baron had not made those imputatious, it was to be hoped that he would have the goodness to sta'e to the Howe what else he did say ; Itiele he sarit,:ni:iiii.ne,eo:loasatfo nistration possessed the confidenc e et the Crown, and that, IP t: :: 1 1e ) e t? : they v A e that "ei sree t of office. TheaPuvernment scented, and not without resson. ld nut give them large supplies without those wo er ex la la -11 1' taig:tiltitt:hrileies:on I) for Lord ELLENBOROUGH ran to explain, but he ti F 7?, trttated it would be hardly necessary for him to enter ie :'..1 any eiplanatioor lie hoped it could not he *opposed .t liie ~. that i i he meant to imp any improper mo.ives to the I. and Learned Earl, f o t wh om he entertained pereonally awl -; I otherwise the highest rege ,d, .4 what he might cell N 1...1 deep heredita r y res p ec t. H e b e lie ve d th at h e was exac tl y , k...; ute g 4 the last person in th e H ouse lik e ly to Impute to the Noll.. Lord SELSEA m a d e one or two o b eervat i on a, whi r l ) --,a were it:addible below the bar. M t The Marquis of LANSDOWICE f e l t hi mse lf b oun d no to enter into anythi ng eittaneosts upon a discussion like' and Learned Earl any b u t th e p urest mot i vea . I 11l the present; but he legged of their Lordships to look at r *, the painful condition in which they were placed, and in oi l which he fully concurred with the Noble Lord opposik:4 4 who spoke last ; hut they could not but consider it their .. first duty to give rep ots and tranquillity to the petiole ti,. But what was that Noble Lord's rceeipt for affording tier repose and tranquillity to the people? It was the moss r c. ? extraordinary that, under the circumstances bad ever been r . . enunciated in Parliament; it was, in these circumstance* t, of difficulty, to abandon the people; it was, iu these cir- i ., ,! cumstances of uncertainty and danger, to steeled to pro• :_ki vide for th e safety and good envernment of the people. ,::;; He called upon the and recommended them to leave to another Parliament to .7 - 4 do that which ought to be done inetantly,...-to another gi present Parilament to forget its duty, s.. Parliament to he hereafter assembled at an itsdefiuite t . 4 period ! He need scarcely remiud their Lordships V I: that to adopt such advice, would he to contradict . 1. - .1 the policy of all legislation in this coaster, from th earliest periods. W as i t not i n all eases the coins , v' .1 i which Parliament adopted, to provide for deaths and other possibl e events ? W as it not a large portion 41 the bus nese o f l eg i s l at i on to provide lot possibilities? :,, That was the argument. The course fur which he and ". his friends contended, it was alleged would prodtree much inconvenience to indivisleals--withent its appearing to he , ;.-z recollected, thatagre a t const i tat ' ona l precedent was elinsit -"L: to be created, the remote effects of which no man could v s ,: anticipate. He would retrace the question to a narrow i compass. Was Parliament to turn its back upon its own functions at a moment when those functions happen to b' of the highest importance to the public interest 7 lie l• skated not to affirm, that if they once gave way would put an end to the Act of William and to the Queen Anne. The Noble Lord seemed to ho' proportion as the exigency was great and clinic the incompetency of Parliament to provide fo. difficulty was great, but they were not capab riding for it. Was that any thing more than a. many words that the most important functions ment--Parliament was not able to discharge ? Acts to which he referred ought to be repealed at. ..,e ear liest opportunity; ',.!• would not enter ;aria part'culara ; I,ut they were difficulties which could not be considered insu perable, and which, if Parliament shrink from contending with, they would no longer be deserving of the fruit reposed in them by the Constitntien. They had been accused of having been actuated by party purposee, lie confessed himself totally at a loss to understand what purpose of party could be served by the course they had adopted : they had been influenced by no consideration, except a conviction that it was the duty of Parliament to provide, temporarily at least, for the exigency that might arise; and it was upon that ground that they called fot the delay of a single day to consider whether it might hr desirable to make the provision of which he spoke tent porary or otherwise. He could not conceive how Par• liament could lend a band to its own dissolution, leaving a case of so much importance unprovided for, involving a , great a change -4o momentous a principle of the Consti tution itself. The manner in which that contingency might be provided for is quite another question ; but sure he was, if it went forth to the public that, on an occasion like the present, Parliament had not provided fur the possible contingency, they could not but lose the con& sow lt iti w giiin o int ul i d ness , a n tn e a t igpe wi htri t f h : o onn u m t denee of the people, and they should deserve to lose it, if the inconvemence felt is the last reign left no impreseion upon their minds. or prodeeeti no effect upon their vote. t t reawn h h e o i to r th a t du ' d t s i be i n ties t t h ha m ou t a g d r h e e t : n u e g e e e w ssa h r ic y l f i r sin; good motive they shrunk from the present difficulty, and their Lordship s would bat bear these considerations is: mind, h e f e l t persuaded they would concur with him in thinking, that to ask a delay off twenty-four hours was not asking too mech. What might be done even at the end of that period, would sot afterwards shut them out from a full discussion of the question at a future time, nor would it pledge any Peer to the vote he might give hereafter. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY, upon so momentous nn occasion as that, would not occupy their Lordships' at tention for mere than a very few minutes. The Address which they bad been called upon to vote, introduced so many, and such considerations, that he could nut bring himself to advert to them in the slight and cursory manner which the limits he prescribed to himself necessarily im posed. He then entered into a warm defence of the character and conduct of the Noble and Learned Earl whse.,e,ortri the amendment, as well as of those who acted with He deprecated the haste with which the proposition of tn. Voble Duke was pressed forward, lie urged the advantages of g:ein, ; his Majesty's Government time to reflect upon the course the ) -weir pursuing, and he also entreated them to consider how irsynrtsnt it was for themselves to have time to reflect upon whs. was perfectly unknown to any one of them before they rams. down to the House that evening. He believed there was not a Noble Lord in that House who, before they sat, had least idea of the proposition that was to be submitted to them ; he therefore contended that en extension of the time was a matter of the utmost consequence. He also thought the case of considerable importance, from the mode in which it had been treated by the Noble Baron behind him. That Noble Lori, though he talked much of repose and tranquillity, had thought proper to snake personal allusion to a Noble Earl opposite, and that on an occasion when they were assembled to discuss one of the greatest questions which could be brought before them. The Noble Marquis renewed his defence or the conduct of the Noble end Lamed Earl --especially as regarded the great measure last yesse---offering the highest testimonies of admiration to the uniform consistency and di.intereatedness of his career. lie (Lord Londonderry) approved of that measure, and thanked the Noble Duke for tarrying it ; but he could not forget that it was the supporters of the presen amendment who sowed the seeds of that measure, thougl they never had the satisfaction of reaping the fruit. A the honour fell to those who same in at the eleventh hour bat it was a fact beyond dispute that it was the advocacy Noble Lords opposite which brought that great measure t maturity. He, therefore, could mot silently allow the Nob, linon to take credit to that Government for a measure, a' the gratitude for which was due be other pat ties. In far , it was one of those measures which sooner or later lose have been acceded to, no matter who held the reins of Ge veriment. Manyeecusations of party motives had been mass in the course of the present dissuasion; and that alone, thought, ought to influence the House in Tither adopting tl amendment thee the motion: and, agsin s as so many pe sonal allusions had been made, and as so little time his been asked for, he thought the Howse would hest consult i own dignity, as well as the truest interest if the public s b voting with the Noble Earl who moved the ansenshnen In so voting they pledged themselves to nothing. When ti question should come fully to be discussed, he was not pr pared to say what course he should advocate or vote for but in present circumstances he had not the :belie difficulty in **Ong, that it would be net only ineoi renienr, but indiscreet, fee Parliament to separate within making the necessary arrangements on the matter uncle consideration. ' 4 l "Si 3 ~~ The Marquis of BUTE then advanced to the tabl tuned away from the bar, and addressed the noose, t in a manner so difficult to be heard, that only a few frig., menu of what fell from his Lordship can be given. Tia Noble Lotd then entered into an culogium upon tit publi c c h aracter and Government of the Noble Duke, 0 0 expressed the deepest groirode to him fir the inea.ured last year ; and he thought also that for many oh r tner cures, the country h ad reason to feel very grateful to t Present Government. The Earl of CARNARVON put it to the Muse wh Sher the continuance of the StAsiso lot It few di longer was not infinitely a lass rift than parasite* the country to incur the htmarti of sash ao event that the twist a bility of vtbich was coitittoplattal. ) ottiv