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SPIRIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURNALS. It is said that the Factory Commissioners are quite inconsolable fbr the fate of their report, which they consider, since the vote of the other night, to be on the eve of a rejection. What a pity that such a mass of advice as was, perhaps, never collected together before should be thrown!, away upon the House of Commons! What a pity that such a mountain of evidence should he shaken to its foundation, and lead to nothine but disappointment, or, what is worse than, disappointment, to the contradiction of its con clusions, and the rejection of its arguments and suggestions ! But though it is natural enough for the Commissioners to feel annoyed at th(i prospect with which their labours are threatened; the public are very differently circumstanced;; they look with apprehension on the bulk of thi4 unwieldy document lest its very size should ob tain for it an undue importance in the mind of the Legislature. The way to di , vest it of ail importance would be to read it through. That, however, is a forlorn hope, and consequently there is still some dan ger that it may not be so justly appreciated and so fairly dealt with as its enemies could wish. There is something, however, so ridicu lous in the flourish of benevolence with which it sets out, that we can scarcely think it possi ble it can escape being laughed at. The sug gestion of eight hours as the limit for the work ing of children, can scarcely produce any other effect than that of ridicule in the minds of those .asho are seriously disposed to mitigate the pro sent system. The advocates of the Ten Hours Bill were charged with indulging, or affecting, a spurious humanity. But mark the humanity of the Commissioners ! Why they have out done us all. Talk of ten hours a day for work ing children Such cruel men as Mr. Sadler, Mr. Oastler, and Lord Ashley, may sanction such an enormity, but the Commissioners, the hired dry nurses of the factory infants, ate horrified at the proposal : they will tolerate no more titan eight. hours' labour in the case of children under 14 years of age ; but over 14-;-- aye, there is the rub—those over 14 are out of leading-strings ; they are adults ; they have arrived at puberty ; it is right that they should have their way, and to give them their way is, according to the recommendation of their new advocates, to work them while they have is leg to stand upon. The Commissioners, for all their humanity—is it a spurious humanity ? —wool(' grind independence out of the very hones and marrow of the manufacturieg poor, Another feature of the report, which can scarcely fail to make an impression, is the attack upbn the character of the witnesses, who, we are told, were turbulent persons, the leaders in strikes, Stc. " Good Lord," as Falstaff has it, ,‘ h6w this world is given to lying !" The principal wiinesses after all were the medical men and the cripples ! But the evidence of the medical men is excluded from the report. They had not room for it in their small abridgment. What will they do with that of the cripples? 1-low will they get over the evidence 'of their withered limbs ? The Commissioners may call the language of those poor people ex aggerated, but what will they say to their de formities? Is that an exaggerated limb upOn which the victim of premature and excessive labour halts, or an exaggerated back by which he is bowed down to the earth in early decre pitude ? If an evening Contemporary, who lias alluded to the Press, can produce such instances of deformity as the evidence on the factory question has disclosed to the world, we !aOll admit the parallel he has drawn, and the a!gu merit he has deduced from it ; but while the factory system stands alone in the exhibition of such shocking examples, it will be in vain to force the analogy for which our Contemporary contenns. The fact, however, is, that the po litical economists are in a state of alarm at the prospect of seeing so much paper, type, and labour thrown away upon a report which, arter all, is not likely to be attended to.—Morning Herald. We begin to see light through this murky crisis, which now no longer threatens the same immediate confusion that seemed to impend over us even 48 hours ago. The position of things is briefly this. If the Church Bill were to be thrown out by the Tory Lords, or the Ministers to he beaten in any one division upon it, the latter would, nay must, not teeder their resigna tions, but resign, without the delay of a moment. '1 he Tories must either come in, with whatever repugnance, or refuse to do so. If they be. came Ministers, they could not go on for half a week with the existing House of Commons, nor could they dare to dissolve the present one, and send the country to a new election, fer fear of a still more hostile return. The Con servatives of all our ancient institutions, there fore, must rule without a Parliament, or with a Parliament consisting only of a House of Lords. But if the Tory chiefs, having so much pre science, bolted into them by the force of an emergency to which no day-labourer from north to south of England can be insensible—if, trembling for their necks, they shrink from the post of absolute Ministers tinder a constitutional Monarch, and confess that their opposition to the Church Reform Bill was purely factious, and malignant, and vindictive, to punish the nation filr its reform spiri, and to embarrass and tor ment the Ministers, without even the ordinary excuse of an ambition to succeed them,—what, in that case, follows ? The Sovereign is once more thrown back upon his reform Cabinet, and its members, on the instant of resuming office, announce to Ins Majesty that which he must already have been well apprised of— namely, that with a House of Lords consti tuted as it now is, they cannot foresee any moral possibility of being able to carry on the govern ment. The result, then, of all is an extensive creation of Peers! We are by no means among the number of those who look to such a result of the actual troubles with indifference. Peers ought not, if the thing be avoidable, to rush by squadrons into that assembly. That House, like the other, is by far too numerous for calm and statesmanlike deliberation ; but since, nn happily, between an admission of new members and an expulsion of old ones (that is, apart from all reference to my Lords B:shop), the latter remedy would be considered the more violent of the two, there remains, we fear, no practicable inethod of putting the House of Lords in liar, molly with the two other branches of the Leeisla tore, and with the nation, but by banding over the majority —that is, the legislative power, from Conservative to Liberal Peers. Assuredly, if a question arises whether it be easier, through any means recognised by the constitution, to make the Commons Tory, or the Lords Liberal, there can be no perplexity about solving it. An election by the people would never put their representatives in concord with a Consere'ative Ministry, while a creation by the Crown would work miracles in liberalizing the ma• Jor i, •,f the Upper House. This, then, is obviously the only course to be adopted—not good per se, but by comparison excellent, and, if one were diSposed to prophecy, it appears to us that a speedy and extensive creation of Peers will be the euthanasia of our present parliamentary difficulties. But are the Tories themselves blind to these distinct characteristics of the passing hour ? We understand that within these two or three days their instinct of self-preservation has begun to act upon them, in lieu of larger and nobler motives. We hear that they are quaking in their skins—that whatever charms there may be for them in giving the freest vent to spite, they are beset by a more than equivalent appre hension, and will suffer the Bill to pass undis turbed (at least unchanged) through its succes sive stages. That Lord Althorp acted under such an impression last night, in recommending, and then voting, that Sir J. Wrottesley should with draw his motion for a call of the House on Thursday next, would be clear enough if his Lord ship's words and votes had always been traceable to definite or consistent considerations. The call of the House was designed by its mover for a sure means of swelling the majority on Thursday next, in support of the Church Bill, that is, of Lord Grey's Government. But the necessity or propriety of such a measure would depend on the occurrence of an adverse vote by the Lords on the previous (that is Wednesday) evening. If, then, Lord Althorp and Mr. Stanley conceived themselves justified in dis pensing with the call of the House, it must either be that they had reason to be satisfied of the non-existence of any such necessity, or that, as on some other occasions, they acted on the monstrous folly of attempting to conciliate their implacable Tory enemies, or, in other words, that they were traitors to themselves, and to those who trusted in them. It is, however, but commonly prudent to mark the progress of circumstances. There is not even the shadow of a doubt that the Tory project, even within these three days, was to throw out the Bill, taking for granted, we say not from what past expe rience, that Ministers would be willing to flounder on, under the chastisement of a daily kicking from their unmerciful but subtle mas ters. Nor is there any reason to question; that if they have abandoned their hopeless plot, it is fear—aad fear only—without one fraction of principle or generosity, that induces them. We have been told that if the Duke of Wellington (Coronation Oath Wellington) votes against the Bill, his friends, even his personal friends, will not. We know of some sagacious and discerning clergymen, who declare that, as friends of the church, they would support this • reform ; and report says that the Primate of Ire land himself (no bigot certainly, but a man of the world) may lie added to their number. In truth there seems to break forth now and then some reason for suspecting that the scheme has been chiefly concocted by the hungry and des perate subalterns of the factions—men who have good salaries to recover by a change, and no reputation (but such as they could spare) to forfeit. These vampires are the curse of all parties, which they never join but for plunder, nor desert but when that ceases to be attain able. Within the writhe of such unhappy rep tiles this great country can never fall again. But still if the friends of freedom and good government be not true to themselves and united in their energy, the trodden viper may contrive for some time to wound and injure us. The worst folly (and a most egregious folly it is) that the Whig. Government has ever ex hibited has been its apparent eagerness to court and appease a faction which has no prin ciple, no opinion, no conviction, to discuss the grounds of—a fiction which acknowledges no suggesting, impelling, directing, or controlling power, but that of a craving stomach, and which sees in the fairest and noblest region under Heaven nothing better than a field of unfor bidden spoil. We fear, that the Speaker cannot yet shake off the intoxication of those giddy hopes wherewith he was recently inspired by men whom he ought to have spurned with con tempt from his presence. We should grieve to see Mr. Manners Sutton self-placed in a ridi culous or odious light before his countrymen. In the meanwhile the barometer of public credit has risen sensibly, as that of Tory confidence has gone down. Look at the city corre spondence. But if all be not safe, what do they deserve from the country who forced Sir J. Wrottesley to withdraw his motion ? Of course the House of Commons will vote no more money until they see this measure through the House of Lords uninutilated.—limes. The Lords may perceive, from the feeling displayed in the division on the call of the House, in the House of Commons last night, what would have been the conduct of the Mem bers of the Reformed Parliament, if the timely concessions, which it was well understood yes terday were to take place, had not been deter mined upon. The entreaties of Ministers, backed by Sir R. Peel, and a large attendance of Tories, could only produce a majority of 35 in a house consisting of nearly 300 Members, on a motion directly levelled against the House of Peers. ft might have been as well if Mr. O'Connell had not persisted in requiring Sir John Wrottesley to divide ; but we cannot regret, as a division did take place, that so strong a demonstration was exhibited of what would have been the unanimous feeling of every liberal Member in the House, were the Duke of Wellington even able to carry into effect his threat of throwing out the Irish Church Temporalities Bill. Mr. Stanley repeated, very seasonably, the admonition which had been given by the Member for Cheshire to Mr. Tennyson, in the morning, on the extraordinary inconsisten cies which distinguished the Right Hon. Gen tleman's lucubrations on the present critical state of affairs throughout the day. We wish, how ever, the Right Hon. Secretary would Await) now and then 00111 his bitterness of tone in answer to Mr. O'Connell, to which he probably owes the division he appeared to deprecate. We hoped he might have left this feeling on the other side of the Channel, and more especially that he would have abstained from indulging it on an occasion when the Hon. Gentleman's observations were rather in a friendly than in a hostile spirit to the Government. We do not complain of the rebuke to Mr. Tennyson. We cannot comprehend the caprice which dictated the violent attack on all the measures of Govern ment in the morning, when a Tory Administration was reported as preferable to the present one, and the praise he was so much disposed to lavish on Lord Al thorp in the evening, and which was so promptly and indignantly rejected by Mr. S anley. W e live m strange times. The Government have no little difficulty in satisfying any party, and we wish they were safely through the session, and out of the hands both of Tory Lords and incon sistent Radicals. At all events, the country is deeply indebted to Sir John Wrottesley, and the friends who supported him ; anti although it may not have suited the Government, from the altered tone of their opponents, to adopt a pro ceeding which might, in the position of affairs, have been construed into a menace to the House of Lords, we mistake much if they are not equally, indebted to the Worthy Baronet. We suspect his notice had a large share in the grounds which i n d uce d t h e T or i es t o retrea t from their insane pursuits, and had more influence than any other circumstance on the councils of the Carlton Club and Apsley-house, when discretion was at last discovered to be the better part of valour.—Morning Chronicle. It is impossible, at this moment, to judge, with any degree of certainty, what will be the exact result of the measures which ihe House of Commons will no doubt determine upon adopting in the event of the Irish Church Tem poralities Bill being thrown out by a majority of the Peers ; for alth n ough there can be no doubt of there being a decided majority in support of his Majesty's Ministers, and of the cause of re form, yet there appears to be such an extraor dinary disruption of all party combinations, or rather perhaps, to speak more properly, such an extraordinary fusion of parties, that there are no clear and definite data on which to found a correct judgment. Both the morning and evening sittings of the House yesterday, fur nished very ample proofs of this fact. In the former the radical Members strove to outvie one another in the attempt to disparage the merits of the present Administration ; and in the latter both Tories and Whigs seemed to unite in order to prevent a motion for a call of the House from being carried, the express object of which was to support the Government. In the one, Colonel Evans, Mr. Tennyson, and several Irish Members, not only expressed their high disapprobation of the conduct of his Majesty's Ministers, but declared it to be impossible that the country could have a worse Government. In the other, Lord Althorp and Sir U. Peel— Lord John Russell, and others, his very anti podes in polities,—were seen to unite in frus trating a motion, from the carrying of which, we beg to say, in opposition to the opinion ex pressed by Lord Althorp, some good, but as suredly no harm, could have resulted. Assent to the motion might or might not have worn the appearance of a threat ; but what did it signify if it did? Have not threats come from other quar ters already, and denunciations been uttered such as had never previously been heard in a legisla tive assembly ? Or what did it signify, whether the threat went forth before, or after, the deed had been done ? Did the House of Commons never threaten the House of Lords betirre, and was the insult the less, because the threat fol lowed, instead of preceding its cause ? But, most of all, is the cause of Reform, and more especially of Church Reform, to be not only compromised, but to run a narrow chance of being lost, by any punctillio about measures and threats ? Not give offence to the Lords, for sooth ! Why, one of the very ends and objects of the passing of the Reform Bill was, that the encroachments of the Lords upon the privileges of the Commons should be done away with— that their dangerous power should be curbed— and that the spirit and influence of the Com mons of England, reinforced by the aid of the people, should be so enlarged and strengthened as to render it almost impolitic at any time—nay, almost impossible—for the Lords to gainsay their voice ; and yet we are now to be told that the House is not to express its opinions upon a great question in a firm and dignified manner, lest the expression of it should be construed into a menace, and give offence to their Lordships! Prohpudor ! If this be not truckling, what is it ? However, to return to the point from which we set out—there is no knowing how the matter may terminate. The indecision of Ministers—the vacillation of the House—and the total breaking up of any thing like party — render it utterly impossible to form a correct judgment ; while, on the other hand, it is still possible that the Peers tnay repent of their original designs, and sanction, instead of throw ing out, the Bill which is now before them. In two days hence the result will be known to every one ; and in the meantime let the people and their leaders be prepared for the worst, and to act accordingly.---Morning Advertiser. _A portion of the boundary wall of the Home park, opposite the Castle, and abutting the Thames, is being removed, and iron railings substituted, in order that the Castle windows may command a view of the beauteous silver stream beneath.— Windsor Express. LARCH IN HOP GROUNDS.—Of the many purpuses to which the larch has been applied, to none more than to the growers of hops is it likely to be of service; it having been proved that upwards of forty thousand larch plants may be grown in the course of five years, on one acre of hop, or other equally good land, of a sufficient height for the tallest hop plants, at an expense of one-half of any other poles heretofore made use of, and equally durable, care being taken to preserve the bark entire on them. —D orset Chronicle. We some time ago published the result of the revenue for the year, and the quarter ending the sth inst. This included, of course, only the revenue of Great Britain, for the end of June or the beginning of July ; the balance-sheet of the empire could not be made up. The following is that balance-sheet : The income is £4,895,007 The expenditure Leaving a surplus of X1,501,9:33 Pie income for the year ending July 5, 1832, was... £46,301,871 The expenditure Leaving a deficiency of .£1,263,.190 In adding, therefore, the deficiency of the year ending the sth of July, 1832, to the surp!us of the year ending July, 1833, we have an improvement in the means of the country, as compared with its expenditure, between the two periods, of 2,765,1231., composed of an increase of 593 1361., and a diminution of expenditure of 2,171,937/. This positive improvement on the produce of the same taxes, and this more than proportionate reductio❑ of ex penditure, are nao,t gratifying fea.ures in the financia tate of the rientry The Calcutta Papers, last received, contain some further particulars respecting the travels of Lieute nant BurtNEs and Dr. GERARD, and the arrival of the latter at the Court of Persia. After travelling through Caboal, crossing the sources of the Hindoo-Kosh, navi going the Oxus, and pissing about two months in Bukhara, they journeyed eastward into the territories o' Khiva, and passed down to the Caspian. Prom thence Lieutenant Burorys made his w3y, by comparatively well known routes, to Teheran. Dr. GERAR D preferred returning to India by the road of Herat and Candahar, and for this purpose struck off from the route of Lieute nant BuRNPS, when they were within about 100 miles from the holy city of 3leshitl, while the Lieutenant pursued hi s j ourne y through Persia , purposing to return to Bombay by Bushire and the Persian Gulf, instead of making a further circuit by Constantinople, Syria, Egypt, and the Red Sea, as at one period he had meditated. Lieutenant BURNES met with a vary favourable reception at Teher an , and in one of his audiences with the Schah, seems to have shown a very courtier like tact arid shrewd ness, peculiarly adapted to his sitnafion. He was closely qmstioned by that monarch respecting the countries through which he had p assed, and afte r satisfying himself he put suddenly ' „ g li,hman replied, " w h at s i ght is there ,t i v( n )o antl,iille etrhtravellerparticular , a, s ,t et : i r he iutvliisils j questionl!d to whichk no was the greatest he w ourney. " C entre o f t h e F ' w onderful than your Maj esty ' s radiant n Un i earthv e r s e , " moretlie countenance ?" The courtiers were vehement in their applause at: this sally. Lieutenant BurtwEs returned to Bombay on the 18th ofJanuary. We do not collect, from this account, what were the objects of hi s m i ss i on.— TiMes. GRAND JUNCTION, or LIVERPOOL aid BIRMINGHAM RAILWAY. (From the Liverpool Chronicle.) The first general meeting of the proprietors of this great national undertaking was held on Wednesday last at the Cotton Sales-room, in the Exchange•buildings, Liverpool. John Moss, Esq., in the Chair. A brief, but interesting report of the proceedings of the Committee was read by the Secretary, Mr. Chorley, an which the proprietors were congratulated upon the suc cessful termination of their efforts •under so many circum • stances of discouragement, delay, and opposition. The Staffordshire ironmasters, who so vigorously opposed them, had been prevailed upon to yield to the reasonable conces sions made by the Committee. In the act just obtained, the arrangements for tonnage of goods were favourable to the concern, nor was there any clause limiting the rate of profit to be divided, or a reduction of tolls required, if the profits should exceed a given amount. A very important clause was introduced in this Bill, which we hope will be likewise introduced into every similar concern, that " after the completion of the rail way, those Directors who annually go out of office shall not be re•eligible until the next general meeting after their retirement." The present Directors are to remain in office until 1835, when three of them will have to go Out, but they or their successors, until the railway shall be completed, may be re-elected. A single board of management was considered essential to the well being of the undertaking, and on the ground of convenience and economy it was recommended that the meetings of the Directors should be generally held in Liver pool, for which purpose it was desirable that. the greatest proportion of them should be residents of this town. Three gentlemen from Birmingham, who attended the meeting, in a very liberal spirit acceded to the general arrangements that were proposed, and were chosen as Director.. No operations are to be commenced until the fullest plans and specifications shall have been completed ; and until it shall be clearly ascertained that in every part of the line, however minute, the best possible direction has been chosen. MI the work, without exception, is to be executed by open contract. The capital necessary to complete the work is fully subscribed. The expenses incurred in surveys, applications to Par liament, law agents, travelling expenses, witnesses, print ine, salaries, &e., up to the present period, have been 15,5271 10.. 7d., the bal once in the Bank being 10,613/. 16s. 7d. The meeting was numerously attended, and we were pleased to see a great portion of the most public-spirited, intelligent, and wealthy part of our mer chants present. - An attention to economy, so important in great public works, was strongly enforced by the various speakers. Amongst those who addressed the chair on the various topics discussed, were—Mr. William Brown, Mr. Bourne, Mr. C. Lawrence, Mr. Benson, Mr. L. Mosley, Captain Moorsom, R.N., Mr. Thomas Bolton, Dr. Briggs, Mr. W.W. Currie, Mr. Bickersteth, Mr. Rawson, and Messrs. Turner, Ledsam, and Walker, from Birmingham. A sum not exceeding 1,200 guineas per annum was voted to re munerate the Directors and Sub-committees, who devote their time and talents to the superintendence and manage ment of the undertaking. Mr. Swift, solicitor, was chosen as the Clerk of the Company, and Mr. Cbcrley as Treasurer. After the bu siness of the meeting tertninated, the ballot commenced tbr the choice of Directors, and we were much pleased to see the result in the judicious choice of the following gentlemen:— John Moss, Esq. Robert Gladstone, Eq. Charles Lawrance, Esq. James Bourne, Esq. John Copper, jun., Esq. Hardman Earle, Esq. Richard Harrison, Esq, James Heyworth, Esq. Joseph Hornby, Esq. William Rotheram, Esq. Joseph Sandars, Esq. Charles Tayleur, Esq. J. Walker, Esq. from D. Ledsam, Esq. Birming- J. Turner, Esq. ham. The greatest portion of 'the above-named gentlemen have been Directors of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway, and their experience will be of the first import ance in the management of the present line. The public will, no doubt, feel a lively interest in the progress of this work, and the other equally important undertaking of the London and Birrn'ngbam Railway, which will give em ployment to thousands of artisans and labourers, and, whe❑ completed, will be of such vital importance to the general ntereits of the empire. INFORMATION AGAINST BOOK- SELLERS. (From the Birmingham Journal.) It will be seen in our police report, that another con viction has been obtained against one of the vendors, Mr. Guest, of the report of the late Newhall-hill meeting. We understood that some of the magistrates had declared that they would not sign any more informations on behalf of Martin, on the ground that he was in the habit of com promising with defendants. It is extraordinary that this fact did not come to the knowledge of these magistrates somewhat rather, seeing it was perfectly notorious, that both Martin and the other miserable wretch, Mackie, have been in the constant habit of so compromising with de fendants. Indeed, as regards Mackie, if we are rightly informed, Mr. Henry Gem, one of the magistrate's clerks, could have given their Worships some valuable in formation, inasmuch as we are told that he, not more than two or three weeks ago, acted as the agent of this in former, and received from Mr. Cooper two pounds as a douceur for Mackie not appearing against the de fendant, Mr. Cooper. Now the law has very properly male the compromising with a defendant, on the part of an informer, a penal offence—and for these very sufficient reasons: if the defendant be really guilty of the offence charged he ought to be convicted, and, in all probability, would be convicted, providing the charge be gone into— in which ease half of the penalty goes to the King ;—if he be not guilty, the information must have been laid for the purpose of obtaining money by fluid, or by the exciting of fear, when: ver a compromise takes place. In the first case, therefore, a case of guilt, the King is defrauded of his share of the penalty,—and in the second, the defendant is robbed by means of preferring against him a false charge. Now, as we have said before, the two wretched individuals in question are in the constant habit of compromising in formations, and we are glad to find that, under these cir • emnstances, Messrs. Clarke and Lee, whose conduct on the bench last Thursday was most fair and impartial, have intitnated their intention not to entertain any charges brought by informers who have compromised with defen dants. The law, however, with regard to imprints, ought to be altered, for though we feel satisfied that no penalty can be legally levied under the Act, yet still honest men may be much annoyed and injured under it by those pests of society, common informers. We ought, perhaps, to add, that with respect to a Bill of Indemnity, the Secretary of the Birmingham Printers and Booksellers, has received letters from many Members of both Houses of Parliamen., promising their support to such Bill. He has, however, received no answer to his application from any of the War wickshire Members, with the exception of Messrs. Dug dale, Attwood, and Scholefield, who have promised their support. The following are copies of Mr. Dugdale's and Mr. S. Rice's letters : " Brook-street, June 26. " Sir,—l will certainly pay attention to the subject you men tion in your letter of yesterday, and support the Bill of Indem nity which may be brought in. " I am, Sir, your obedient servant, "To W. G. Lewis, Esq." " W. S. DUGDALE. " Treasury, July 2, 1843. " Sir,—l beg to inform you that the subject to which you allude is under the consideration of the Government, with a view of deciding on the steps which it may be necessary to take. " I am, Sir, your obedient servant, " W. G. Lewis, Esq." " SPRING RICE. On Thuradiy last Mr. Guest, newsvoider, &c., of Steelbouse-lane, appeared at our public office to answer an information laid azainst him by Mackie, the informer, for selling, on the 23(1 of May !ast, a copy of the report of the late Newhall-hill meeting without the legal imprint. The Magistrates before whom the case was heard were N. G. CLARKE and T. LEE, Esqrs. When Mackie advanced to the table he was addressed as follows by Mr. CLARKF.—You have not been compromising with any of the parties against whom you have laid informa tions, have you, Mr. Mackie ? Mackie—No, Sir. Mr. CLARKS—Because the Magistrates do not choose to be made the me a ns of ex to rting by proceedings of that sort. Mr. Gem here read the information again st M r. Guest , to which he pleaded not guilty. money from the public Mackie then produced his witness, who gave his na me as James Harrison, that he resided in Princep-street, a n d was by trade an informer. In his cross-examination by Mr. Bray, who appeared on behalf of the defend int, wit ne,s stated that be had purchased a number of copies of the sime pamphlet at various booksellers in the course of the same day for the purpose of laying informations. Mr. Bray submitted to the magistrates that the publi cation alleged to have been purchased by the witness did not come under the denominati on o f " a pr i nte d paper, " under which denomination it was set forth in the infer niation. It consisted of more than one sheet, and wa, regularly folioed and folded as a pamp h let or bo ,k . Ac cording to Johnson a paper was 4 'a single-sheet printed or written ;" and he qtneed Locke and Shakspeare in sup port of that meaning. This might appear to the maps. crates to be a trivial and unimportant distinction ; but in a ease of this nature be (Mr. Pray felt assured that they would be inclined to give the defendant the benefit of any valid objection which might be raised, particularly when they recollected that he was brought here in a most vexatious manner by a common informer, who acknow ledged that he got his bread by thus entrapping honest men, and who did not scruple to compromise their infor mations, and thus cheat the King out of his moiety of the penalties, supposing convictions to have taken place. Mr. CLARKE-But is it true that this man (alluding to Mackie) has done that? Mr. Bray—Yes, Sir; I can prove that a few weeks ago be compromised a case of this nature at this office, with Mr. Cooper, of Union-street, for the sum of two pounds. Mackie—Well, and suppose I did, what has that to do with the present information? Mr. CLARKE inquired if Mr. Bray was prepared to prove that this compromise had been effected ? Mr. Bray—l am, Sir, and I now ask Mr. Gem if be does not know it to be true ? Mr. Gem—Oh ! you can't exa mine me. I know nothing about it. Mr. Bray—l can assure you it will be the subject of a legal prosecution ; but if the Magistrates will allow me I will send for Mr. Cooper, and prove what I have stated to be correct. Mr. Gem—l do not see how that is to affect the pre sent case. Mr. CLARKE—No ; but I will only say that if such a case were proved against an informer, I as a Magistrate would not entertain any more of his informations. The conversation here ended, and the Magistrates, after coal,•rring together, and consulting the Act of Parliament on which the information was grounded, convicted the defendant in the mitigated penalty of five pounds. Mr. Bray said that he certainly could not advise his client to pay the penalty, and he thought, after what had been stated, the Magistrates would not think proper to issue a distress warrAnt. IMPORTANT CONFERENCE of the WEST INDIA BODY with Mr. STANLEY. The West India Proprietors, particularly those of Ja maica are much dissatisfied with the provisions of the Bill for the abolition of slavery. On Friday last a Committee, appointed at a meeting of the Proprietors, waited on Mr. Stanley, the Secretary for the Colonial Department, and, after a long and earnest discussion, the conference was ad journed to Saturday. Another long discussion took place, but no satisfactory arrangement, as far as relates to the West India proprietors, was arrived at. 'We understand that the deputation strongly protested against that part of the Bill whereby the Legislature of Jamaica is prevented from taking measures themselves for carrying the abolition of slavery and the intentions of the Government into effect. The deputation said they were anxious to afford assistance to the Government, and they had sought the conference in consequence of their entertaining a strong opinion that the Legislature of Jamaica would reject the Bill, if accompa nied by any compulsory provisions. - The Committee urged the peculiar injustice which would be committed on the West India proprietors resident in England, if the Go vernment persevered in their interference with the rights of the Legislature of Jamaica. It was admitted that the %Vest India proprietors were entitled to compensa tion, but that compensation was not to be given to them, unless the Legislature of Jamaica passed the Act for carrying the Abolition of Slavery into effect. Now, if the Colonial Legislature chose not to pass the Act, then the West India proprietors would be shut out from their property without being recompensed for the loss of that property. We understand that Mr. Stanley replied, that the British public could not be called on to grant the com pensation unless effective measures were taken for carrying into effect the object for which the grant was made, viz , the abolition of slavery. A long discussion took place respecting the suspending clauses inserted in the Act, and the deputation adduced several instances in which the Co lonial Legislature had resisted such clauses, and their right t,) do so had been acknowledged in fornier.titnes. Their resistance was similar to the opposition raised by Ireland in the case of Poyning's Law. The deputation having observed on the impolicy of imposing the abolition of slavery, not on its own rights, and of forcing the Colonial Legislatures to pass the Act, urged the rejection of the first and second clauses, which virtually abolished all slavery. Such a change would produce great excitement in the island of Jamaica, and no preparation had been made to meet it. There was no magisterial authority imposed in case of a refusal to work. Mr. Stanley said that special magistrates would proceed to the West Indies immediately after the passing of the Bill. The deputation objected to those clauses which made a difference in the dura tion of the apprenticeship of the two classes of slaves-- the prandial and the non-plasdial. Those clauses, they said, would produce great dissatisfaction. Mr. STANLEY replied, that the labour of the prtedial slave was limited to forty-five hours; but the labour of the non-prsedial slave was not limited, Therefore, the non-praedial labourer ought to remain in apprenticeship only half the time; besides, the non-prmlial class was better fitted for liberty. As to the hardship on the pro prietors, it would be subject to redress by the Cointn:s sioners to be appointed for paying over the compensation. The deputation then made objections to some of the minor clauses—such as those provided for cases of intestacy, for alienating the services of the apprentices, &c. The de putation also objected to several clauses, such as those relating to religious toleration, the salaries of magistrates, &c., on the ground that they interfered with the rights of the Legislative Assembly of Jamaica. The deputation had a long argument with the Right Hon. Secretary on paying the compensation on the principle of per capita, but the Hon. Secretary, although he took notes on this and the other points, gave not the slightest intimation that the Government would yield to the West India proprietors. The deputation then strongly pressed the Hon. Secretary to undertake the whole legislature of the colonies, as the proprietors were convinced the colonial legislatures would not pass the Bill as it at present stood. Mr. Secretary STANLEY replied—How was it pos.ible to legislate for the different colonies which had so many different interests? The DEPUTATION replied, that Jamaica contained half of the slave population, and that it would be better to pass one Act for Jamaica, and another for the smaller colonies. The legislatures of the latter were not likely to oppose the Bill, but the case was very different with regard to Jamaica. Air. STANLEY assured the deputation that all their points should be taken into the most serious consideration, and the deputation retired. LOCAL COURTS BILL.—Lord BROUGHAM'S patriotic attempt to establish Local Courts in England, and thus open the door of justice to the mass of the English people, was defeated on Tuesday night by a strong muster of ids,n , fficoa proxiesicts,uic: t re: Tistii o,nsw hich collected es. House. Lord BROUGHAM distinctly intimated in the peroration to his reply in the debate, that though the measure should be unsuccessful for the present, it would not deter him from persevering in his efforts to obtain cheap and expeditious justice for the people. This intimation showed, at least, that though defeated and disappointed, his Lordship and his Colleagues W ou ld not suffer the issue to affect the stability of th e i r Go vernment; hut if it be happily innocuous in this re spect, we can venture to assure the Tories th a t it w ill not be so in relation to them and their charact e r wi t h the nation. If they were odious and d e test a ble as politicians before, they must be utterly worthl e ss and contemptible now. What more signal proof than this could they give to the coun t r y, o f th e i r ignorance of th e state of society, and their u tt er bl i ndness to the signs of the times ? In a spirit w ort hy of the darkest period of feudalism, they treat a measure of pure justice and expediency, as if it were a question solely of party ; and , as if ambitious to crown folly with wickedness , they deny cheap and expeditious law to the pe o p le at large , for no other reason apparently tha n th a t t hey may affront and annoy their politica l o pp onents. Most truly has it been said, that prognosticatet o all whicht tu t t he themselves c af nttfi fe have afv eh e rn i eo t d i is ta as other a pr • l ee e se a u r r al t a g se _ t h t a h n e sun at noon day, that the Opposition Lords are hasteni ng t h e ir own destruction or degrad a ti on . Let them only go d y o n thus for another twelv e mont h s, an d i t will not be Memoirs of Mrs. Inchbald," just pub - fished, form a book which, on many accounts, is one of the most curious in existence. This character of the work is to be found, not only in the singular events of her life, and the interesting nature of her correspondence, of which the greater portion was preserved by her, and has been mho died in the volumes, but in the fact that her present bio graphy is constructed front " her own diary," wherein she chronicled the occurrences of each day, and recorded her private thoughts and emotions. This remarkable diary was k-pt by the fair and celebrated writer as minutes for her intended autobiography, for the copyright of which she was offered, by a living City bookseller, no less a sum than one thousand pounds ! LEAP EXTRAORDINARY.---Oh Thursday morning a cow was being driven into the fair fur sale and as it was proceeding down Clinrch-wall.gee at a smart trot, a bull stood exposed for sale actors the street, and directly in the cow's path. Instead of divergiu! round the bull, the aspiring beast took a spring and cleared it at a bound, as cleverly as a greyhound would overtop three.feet hedge, and deliberately pursued its way.— Maecks,field Fourier. TRICKS OP INSOLVENT DEBT, A countryman came up to London in Apt the purpose of avoiding a hostile creditor, and house in the neighbourhood of Smithfield. creditor promised to follow and arrest him, enable him to take the benefit of the Ins°!vet Act. After a delay of a few days, finding that had not arrived, he disclosed his condition to thi who at once offered to introduce him- to r with a convenient conscience, conducted him. t+ house in a court in Fleet-street, and there acquainted with a Mr. D. 8., who agreed, for 2/., to put him into Whitecross-street prism called Queer-street. B. communicated with hii left the house, but returned soon with a bundli exchange, out of which he made a selection directed the countryman to endorse it. That ceremony being over, and the 21. for the fat arrest having been paid, it became necessar: who appeared to be the detaining creditor, tend the Insolvent Court on the hearing of th, man's petition. The self-made creditor, thought the thing too good to be abandon( squeezing a little more money out of it, a, cordingly refused to honour the Court presence. This course produced another pours, attended, and swore he never knew the man had arrested, as before described, nor where him, till within a few days of the arrest, when vent was pointed out to him by a friend. T' seeing that the countryman had been collusivelt dismissed his petition. The scheme having failed thing the countryman naturally sought was, hi and he sent to B. for his discharge. "No," Bah have your own acknowledgement that you owe I sum of money, and out of quod you sba'n't le you hand me over six quid (pounds)." The c( in vain reproached the fictitious creditor. All would abate of his demand was 1/. ; and the ui countryman, who has no money at all, is now u, retributive justice in Whitecross-street, where ht upon the gaol allowance, as his family cannot sem single shilling, and where the only consolation the bitter one that he in reality owes not a sing' to the person who detains him. B. is well Whitecross_street prison, from whence he was in November last, when he pleaued great po , begged for pecuniary assistance. This worth: on payment of a certain sum of money, to detainer against him, and immediately proceeded from a tin case a bundle of old bills, out of which one, which he desired the man to endorse. This and next day some person made oath that the em indebted to a prisoner confined in Horsemonger, 201. and upwards, and a writ was issued accorditn, of the more respectable of the prisoners in W street having heard of this circumstance, metal, the Governor, who immediately investigated and caused the detainer to be withdrawn, and man's name to be struck off the bill. If this had the case, the wretched 40s. prisoner would have with the Insolvent Act ; and after selling the from under his wife and children to pay the erg going up to Court, would have been completely turned : . as the Commissioners would doubtle,s have seen throP the scheme, and dismissed his petition. LONDON MARKETS. PRICE OF BREAD. The highest price of Bread in the Metropolis is gd. for 41b. Loaf. There are others who sell from jid. to 1301. i 1 that price. PRICE OF SEEDS.—JuIy 15. New English'led Clover Seed (per Cwt.) 40s. 60s. fine 655. Old Ditto Ditto.. New Foreign Ditto O ' d Ditto .1.1•00••••••••••••••10 —s. fine —s. 40s. 565. fine 60s. —s. —4. fine —s. 255. 28s. fine 30s. —s. —s. fine —4 20s. 255. fine 265. New White Clovi 0 fd Ditto Diti 31d Ditto Rib Grass English Carraway Foreign Ditto - -8. —B. 7.35. fine St. Foin Rye Gra .(per Quarter).---.. 465. 48s. fine 50s. 255. 30s. new 335. 365. 445. new —s. 50s. fine —s. 445. 50s. —s. fine -4. —s. 70s fine Ditto Canary Seed, Ne; t l itto Old White Mustard Seed......(per 8u5he1)...... —s. Bs. 10s. tine Brown Ditto . - —s. 20s. 245. fin' Turnip Seeds, Rounds . —s. --s. 18s. tine Green and Red Ditto -A. —s. 18s, tine Tares, Old —4. 4s. fine se. Ditto New .—s. ss. fine ss. Rare Seed, English, fine (per Last) 25/. 28/. ..... Foreign 241. PRICES OF HOPS.—July 15. New Kant Pockets (per cwt.) 51 Os. 01. Os. to 61. 61. 63. 01. Os to 71. 61. Os. 71. 03. to Cl. 71. 10s. 01. Os. to 01. 0!. Cs. 01. 03 to 01. 0! 03. 01. Os to 01. 41. los. 51. ss. to Oh The Hop Duty is estimated at 17(,000/. East Kent Choice .... New 5.,,51 perfine PRICE OF OIL. Rape Oil, brown ........-35/. 05........... Refined .......,15/ Linseed Oil2o 'MP 1 q Linseed Oil Cake at the Mill, p;r thousand Rape Cake, per ton ---..,..—.... WHIT ECHAPEL HAY 51 ARKET.—July 13. Hay 503. Od. to 803. Od. Clover Od. to 100 0 ' Od. to 30s. Od. PRICE OF POTATOES.—JuIy 15. New Ware —.. 4s. rd. to ss. Cd. per a t , Middling - 2 s. Od. to 3s. Od. ditto. • Chats •••••••••••• ••••••• PRICES 0: Per lb. Botts, 144 24 Ditto, F0reign........ 14 19 Dressing 12 15 Ditto l3 15 Ditto, light Crop Hides, light_ 12 133 Ditto 40 to 501 b. 124 16 Ditto «...,.14 18 LEAI HEtt. English Fro P rs er e l. Hideo,,. 12 Spanish Ditto 1 0 Per dozen. Calf Skins.. 30 to 4(lb. 111 Ditto 40 to 601 b. 14 Ditto 70 to 901 b. 2 1 Small Seale. Greenland 16 Large ditto l9_./ PRICE OF CANDLES. The price of Store Candles, in the retail shops, is as follovil . # Candles, per doz. 7s. Od. to Ss. Od. I Moulds, per d0zen—......9 {ET.—July 15, ' _, Per Ton. O. Walls End Heat0n........." O P Walls End Hi1da.....—...... 0 Walls End Newniarch.., 0 Ditto Northumberland.. 0 Walls End Perkins & CO. 0 Walls End Riddell's ....• 0 Walls End Walker ...,...• 0 Lambton's Primrose ..--..• 16 Walls End Hetton ....." 0 Walls End Adelaide ...-* 0 W. E South Durham 0 Walls End Tees ~—......." , last market-day, 15. anseed, for feedinj fOr crush ai:esal.t ten:el:liana . „"40, t;ixf, ri et} el I . nit, : vtt:. ;earro;t lz it:, ilnet telt 4,o4:oettlip4 : fe.rtit 1. v.ittti....e.ete ° , u.1:0. ettn:f r eugrndet:i ,1 1,1 vosn a :ie, rtalenanivast ebeh,e, digestion ate gth I rs l :Pi° 1 ,1; i it It if I t 34 1 .I,t,l'eet No t It ni ll 41. ‘ , ,IY-r ti s_ r o L n_ lliki, et l ' e I nt:'n: 51 ill °°l'° ,l 31 : : I;v ot i ll r " l foaeet t ' ' et 1 i r i t ; 68 4, tlre l t tleaarlri It ti e e o u: ra : t t be L d'Umw°e r fe e b e si iaCl : e) t at u)e_arellun Irice ei : itrn g tile E ne e vrh i i l w ey e 'cha p e , d°nPYn r teid:ftoe ets n ai lsds bti sme n fa ta w . tn iae°: i tf hr eee o n ee n t : n ol e a i fa , ,6‘if : .i.d t t. e tri i c ti'l I ' i disili N at, re quest roir e A tng the rn P W Flatiril7. ri 7 Rlr °rA PPet't ' g V e gra. 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" B offeri, e pills kedi ed ever ) ii?itildr„ sicker be Pill S P i ll eves' m no Y nigl P a gentle a , „ i l ee ,.. any other tit yrs Should I, l li r two will be th he pills, tai eit e %I * °ham, Tool talin', 4t era, and a litev-eg of any corn I Th. lb fiaitely b e 4 1 ..? are also tl titn;: o and it ba g ft t i- it ad,p t the krittir These D. i t 44 d; „ d se e ta a toP) of 47' L rgery and , .iii qessr s . t ro ' w rottati SROWNEtteana hr i r his valuable I ►iel l ' itt e and e n ' s 'ff„ ng and Str • p hial Core for t he rePar ed an o d r t i el Pri ce of 3 to till O w l,,, t iii This n ' l e : - .' t AN aner di Irb abli ' 4 B pills g's"te a / bar ' Wi ll be f 1 14 0 _, ce of alleviatio Iluer---the Er tilt repared and - tlet Price of 61. eat .t!!'e) with th N - A p ii an i ejettedr! Ino : t 'l " , do n. by ret ili t * * Perso n i, ,t,,tlyt of aier.sqriu.esli •, 4 i totnedi ate a Btl'llura. B rown ) near Bea, Hr I,nrgdviiyoaes.enroteotedsrY.Anoit rolls. ROYAL A OTICE I a a invy r ooesspnen l i tAihfmg l at o hbouoaeter d eooafpornv i uhaot g ld a nyripluabstuln e ole s oedid:etu l ob s frege,,l. 0,,r; .Exhibitors . et idnv vounepxsdents pa.nphhmeßin.a.a.tlt ybipdftptß.set,,teaies,,movit,.iyicrmain,o(ieoeTt. Whatever sue t jeihnfed2sNi fi r snetF o u4(i (nar(l:htnfr i t, at his talogme One i w d he lan& me silt prpt.tlett,isLoonredcoeni v . e I\ bows (Edinbur led wit' co nsu l ted pen, n an d d , with e et.stre,r, L n a whom ?Noe generally to sen d 4"e successful th e h y t i a l e e r :2. f e cE s . t ujr p ., r pa o en o , f d les' rt the , strangely his liberl I' Z' t e him abus aid 8., il l '', Scale of cr budge s,' labouring country' ,e blood , erupt;o I the Is ond, w ill b e fi unfortw. gaily, the underc t k_l'eneres, w he is li calf Quack, w end hid 11 ;°, as Our pa nhe 4 1 , is e ttlfined to ;le f ar ,t e i . 7 give advi, knows Our motti (heels Metter, post by (de . r * Jardine, 11,11.‘11.71test ND :TnßewENanG: :I.illeitien r i a d re ec b i e d ne d o was GESTIVI N v h h e i s te eA c i i g a i ns in t h e tnean s thi mer ioned !.!` hoc the " dating be t e l eod th l gerou s n sP*llln lt e 'dee n o ti f y th a e d ver z P ens r;.ll2 llt le dpyrnoeoretyeeolloplyzat,er. Kent Choic COAL MAR, Per Ton: Adair's 13 3 Beaumont l2 6 Charlotte 13 0 Chester Main ll 6 Dean's Primrose 12 6 13 6 Polito', Windsor 13 0 .14 6 l'ownley ............. 13 9I Wylam .......—...--.. 14 6 Walls End 8r0wn'5,,....... 13 6 Ditto Clarke and C 0..„.... 13 0 Ships arrived since NEWCASTLE CORN MARKET.—JuIy lf. pi We had a good supply of Wheat from the farmers to-daPoi little in coastways during the week, and sales were ready. $ 0 advance of full 2s. per quarter. Oats were in small suppli_t4 sold freely at late prices. For Barley there is a retail deMv,l our quotations. Fine Malt and sound heavy Rye fait Little doing in Beans. No Pease oaring. Fresh Flour readily. New. Old. Wheat, Northumberland 448. 590 ....... -a. - 4 : - Norfolk and Suffolk 50s. 605....„, - 5..--: Berwick and Scotch 445. 565. ...... -5..""" Foreign ....., Rye, Norfolk and Suffolk 30s 36s -5... .# Foreign 30s. 351 -0. -A Barley, Malting, Norfolk and Suffolk...-s. -s -8. -*"! Grinding and Feeding .235. 25s -a. Malt, Norfolk and Suffblk 48 , . 54s -0. : 2 1 Beans, Small -b. -s 315. v" -- 51' Tick -s. -s. 308...10 &3 5 : 30 58 1.... -- - 1: Pease, White -_-_,_ Gray Oats, Northumberland, Potatoe 19s s -4. o ,s. Feed l7s 19s -4.. . 4,, --S. —S 36s. 0,11, Foreign _ Flour. Fine (per sack) BIRTHS. On the 10th inst., in Devo ns hi re-p l ace, the lady o• r Cure, Esq., of a son. On the 23d ult., at St. Omer, France, the lady of Jain.- wick Wetenhall, Esq., of a daughter. On the 13th inst., at Shottesbrook Park, Berks, the I ? Sir Henry Watson, C . 8., of a son, who survived on li , hours. On the 14th inst., at Denmark-hill, Camberwell, the G. Oelrichs, Esq., merchant, Baltimore, of a sen. MARRIED. On the 11th inst., at Hellingley, near Uckfield, SussAiA eldest daughter of A. P. Cumberbatch, E sq ., o f th e same to the Rev. H. C. Mitchell, Lymington, Hants. ofir On the 13th inst., at Canterbury, J. G. Dalhousie Esq., Captain 13th Light Infantry, youngest son of th e 1i Lieut.-Colonel Taylor, 20th Light Dragoons, to sareb oo Knyvets, eldest daughter of W. Knyvets, Esq., of 111 of Wight. On the 13th inst., Charles Bromley, Esq., of Sout.l to Margaret Elizab e th , second daughter of the late '' Henry Lintott, Esq., of Romsey. On the 10th inst., at Bolton, John Horricks Al o s Esq., of Halliwell, to Elizabeth, eldest dau g ht er o f the lat h Shaw, Esq., of Old Burlington_street. , PRINTED AND PUBLISHED BY MU RDO YOU IiO,A SUN OFFICE, 112 STRAND, LONDON. DIED. ,J Y On the 13th inst., Mr. W. Pryce, of Qoldsmith.stre. - . , cji4 4 On the 12th ipst., in Manchester-square, Jeremiah r , aged 79. Mrs' On the 13th inst, at Holland.pl ace, Kennington, NaL„,fre,7 Tyler, aged 77, relict of Robert Tyl er, E sq., l ate o f Stocl ie On the 9th inst., at Henlow, B e df ords hi re, age d 6S, t John Francis Stuart, Rector of Lower Gravenburst. „Kr On the 14th inst., at Milfi e ld L odge, Brighton, I'loo, Eliza, wife of Frederic C o tt rell, Esq., of the )43c," valry, daughter of Fran c i s Robertson, Esq., of Reffen Brighton, and Chilcote, Derbyshire,