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IMPERIAL PARLtAMENr. ROUSE OP LORDS, ItIoNDAY, Nov, 5. tor4l TF.NTEUDEN 1:.1.1 on the table several Bids, which he stated were intended to ea; ry into effect the re commendations eontiined in the second report Of the Coin missioners appointed to inquire into the state of the com- . mut law. The Noble Lord said, he should leeerve a fuller explanation of the provisions of these Bills to a more seasonable opportunity. The Earl of ELDON observed, that the Lord Chief Jo s tice had done him the honour to consult him as to the expediency of the Bills in question, which he, *honk! merely say were, in his opinion, of st nature to entitle the: Noble Lei d to public gratitude, for having been at the trouble to prepare them. After a few wards from Earl Geosvesoe, the Bills - . (w.: believe four in number) were ordered to be printed. Earl GROSVENOR then presented a petition from cer tain inhabitants of Wiltshire against the continuance of the slave trade. In so doing the Noble Earl was pro• ceeding to recommend a moderate Parliamentary reform, when he was called to order by The Earl of HABDWICkE, who deprecated such a discuoiun as irregular. Anti-slavery petitions were then presented froM Mallon, and six places in Gloucestershire, 1w the Doke of Gr.on eysTrta ;—from two congregations of Wesleyan Methodists at Newcastle-on-Tyne, by the Earl of &maw ;--from Hotings and two other places in Sussex, by the Etrl of CHICIIIOSTER ;---Imm 20 Dissenting congregations in Pem. brokeshire, by Earl Cawnoat ;—from Chester, and three other places, by the Bishop of Lotrnote ;—from severe! parishes is the com.ty of Southampton, by the Bishop of Winertrarrxx ; and from Huddersfield, Leeds, and !Bother places in the West Riding of Yorkshire, by Lottl WtrAurt currx. On the motion of the LORD CHANCELLOR, it was ordered that the House should he aummoned for Friday next, but we could not learn fur what purpose. The Earl of Ennort laid on the table a Bill for the amendment of the laws relating to bankrupts, which was reed a first time, and ordered to be printed. BELGIUM.—THE RING'S VISIT TO THE CITY. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said be would avail himself of the present occasion to put a question to the Noble Duke, or rather the Noble Earl opposite, respecting the relations that subsisted between diet country and the Netherlands, of which be had given notice on a former evening. It appeared by the preamble of a treaty signed by the Earl of Clancarty, our Ambassador extraordinary to the Netherlands, that the terms en which the King of the Netherlands had accepted of his Sovereignty were fully stated in the protocol to which that official document re ferred. Now, in such important transactions be thought it would he but right that Parliament and the public should lie thoroughly satisfied that nothing whatever was on record which implied an obligation under existing cir cumstances to ioterfere with the Netherlands. He was himself satisfied that no expressions employed in the treaty with the King of the Netherlands could be so interpreted at to imply any ouch obligation. He felt, moreover, in (mouton with the country, that if they had never coot mitted themselves by it guarantee, their policy and inte rest demanded an abetineece from interference with the future government of Belgium.—(Hear, hear. )-Thu inte reat of the inliehitants of Belgium was equally at variance with such an interference, for the recent example of Fr ince sufficiently proved that their efforts were compa tible with moderation in success, and a determination to up liald the institutions they had created. The true interest of Belgium: he repeated, supposing the inhabitants to be equally patriotic, would be best promoted by the Govern ment of England's forbearing tointerfere, unless when in vited by the people of the country themselves. He bad seen with regret the passage of the King's speed), pig pm sing to provide for " the good government of the Neo therlawle," because he conceived it was the policy :of England merely to protect her own interests against suffer ing front any change which might occur in the several Governments of Europe. lie wished accordingly to be infermed whether, if the protocol alluded to slid exist, it contained any guarantee not to be found in the other official papers to which he hail already had access. The Earl of ABERDEEN said he should have no ob jection to lay the protocol in question on the table of the Ilea se, at the same time assuring the Noble Marquis that it contained no engagements, express .or implied, at all different from , those involved in the treaty of the eight attielee. Ile conceived it was unnecessary then to enter upon further discuesion of the subject, but would merely observe that the interests of this country, were so inti. tamely connected with the owe of the Netherlands that it was ioapoosilete to look with indifference on transactions of such Importance as those of which the provinces at present were the theatre. Be might also add, for the satisfaction of the Noble Marqnis, that no interference, except one of on amicable nature, was in the immediate contemplation of lie Majesty's Government.—(Hear.) The. Marquis of LONDONDERRY said that, diffiring as lee bad dune with the Noble Secretary for, Foreign Affairs during the greater part of Iset session, he should feel ashamed of sitting Silent on an occasion like the pre sent, lig if these was one passage of the King'. speech which he approved of More than another, it was that in which they, bad been assured that the faith of treatitta would be observed.—(Hear.)--..The French revolution, he was sorry to find, had been mentioned with applause, for he was firmly persuaded that they were only in the begin ning of it now, and that they might be inundated with blood before that revolution should be concluded. What was the prevent state of the French Government ? Had they not a King and a Chamber of Deputies that had tel ready annihilated half their Peers? Could th e y even exercise the prerogative of mercy its the case of certain misguided persons now emerald* to the law without being overawed by a military guatel-wan exasperated mob—and a republican General ? Thu truth was, that they durst not do their duty, lest their guards should 'RAr an infuriated people to walk its and overwhelm them. If, then, such a system as • this were to he established in Belgium, what, he demanded, would become of British ;viaticum with that country ? A inn and decided union with those allies, who in conjunction with England hail subjugated Napoleon, lie WAS unalterably persuaded would be our only resource. He rejoiced, therefore, that Mildews bad taken chit course, of acting in conceit with the allies, which it eppeared they had resolved on.. l'ior could he look without fear• ful apprehension to the present moment, the exigencies of which reqoired that they Should stand by the throne, th e executive, and their own" order." He was lilteWise con vinced that the Noble Earl opposite (Berl Grey), fur who e, talents he hail a high respect, would agree with him in thinking that this wail the true policy of the aria . totracy, whereby alone they might " cause ideal dangers to dwindle into dust." A Noble Bari (%VlnchilR say also had lately spoken float the:cross-bench, and *seemed to himself the met it of being the organ of e party, had awed that the, speech of the Noble Duke was net calculated to conciliate those with whom, be genctidly acte l ; but this, however, be had no doubt, was far from letios the fact. The Doke of RICHMOND rose to order. The Noble Lord alluded to was not then present, and it was therefore is regular to icier to what he had been slammed to have stated. Besides, the Noble Marquis, ha leletalt bowed nosier great misapprehension as to what had really been said,—(Bear, bear.) The Marquis of LONDONLIIIIRRY resumed. lie StOan corrected. Ile saw that the Noble Botts) whom he al luded was not in his place. Ile was Sites that the Noble Duke who had called hint to order would be the hint roan to suffer himself to bit put doers by any one getting up to arrest his observations. Toecturn to what lie was saying, he understood the Noble Earl to have sail, that the Noble Lords on the cross-benches were determined to reject any bait othielt might be thrown natio them to induce them to glee their support to the Ouvernment at the present juncture. Now he believed the s moderate Tory feeling to he, that the principles contained in the Klog's Speech were the pt lociple of the real Tories,—(G No, nos)--anti if act ed upon, Tories would support theist...-.( 44 N 0 . 49-11, had said inure than he intended. He must confilv that hie feelings unite' him away. It was impossible not to fret in an extraordinary degree excited, in contemplating tint situation in which the country stood. Ile hoped that ',host who reallybad property, and must feel that their hest interesti were at stake; would stood by the throne and the Government at the present moment. Tile Duke of RICHMOND said, be did tott intend to treeatto htog on their Lordships' attention, particularly pt? the Nulde Marquis bad just stated . that leis feelings had carried hint away.. In hie opinion the Noble Marquis had matte as west erajststifiuble attack on a Noble Levi who was nut Tresent. lie btu Disks of Itichmood) - was not pre, swot whifft the Nate Earl addeested their I.ol'th:hips on a torsi o n; evening, hut he tonierstroal the 'Nubia Lail to have ended duet lie vette only lila oWit ilia-tektite! had no wish to put down the Noble Mar qui.. anti finty loon because lux woo adverting to a speech delivered io, it former debate, whielt"was against the iaikes of th e Moro , . !fioi Nolite 514rquiti W , a pow lOW h tpot ter stf 0,,v ! rikruel;t, Imt ti, eeconecLeti that last ec.sion the No;.ile neeipiii':e eloquence was dittaiteil ;against Ministers day after sty wish re s pect to the bout). „wi t , * eire e ee.,...c Itogbje-r-Witeo Ito teinetaLereil that, he nnist Say, with peileei coactoy, that be slid not drink it wurth 144 lc, put ittiwo the Noble eren if he had the talent to de so,—(Hear.)—The Noble Marquis called upon those who had property to stand by tide Throne and the Government. He (the Duke of ilichmemd) for one, said that those who had property shuttld do thia,—they should take care that .no needless alarm Went forth to the country.—(Hear, hear.)—Those who had property to lose would rally round the Throne and the Constitution; but this he would say, that the best way to induce men to rally round the Throne,--the only way to make them rally round the constitution,--weed to have a Government which ►rssessed the confidence of the p, ople.—(Hear, hear. )—lt was not by writing a letter to the Loyd Mayor, and preventing his Majesty from going to dine with his loyal citizens (and he hoped that Govern ment would be able to explain the cause of this proceeding) —it was not by exhibiting such alarm, and spreading consternation throughout the metropolis and the whole cottony, that Government could obtain the support of the people. He felt confident that hie Majesty reigned in the' beetle of his subjects.—(Hear, hear, bean). — le would stake all his property, his character anti his ex istenee on the fact, that the King might go, unaccompanied hy policemen or guards, through the whole nwtropolis, amidst the cheers of the people.—( Hear, bear.)—He knew not the distinction or Whig and Tory on this °es. tas:inr. All honest men would in times of difficulty rally round those whom they thought best calculated to save the country and promote the welfare of the people. Those were his opinions he they Whig or Tory. SeMething had lean sai 1 to-they about Porliamentary Reform. He was no radical reformer, but he thought that a practical re:- form was necessary.---(hear, bear.)—He had never, in that House or el•ewhere, declared himself to be adverse to the amendment of the laws. He would not at present state hit opinion us to the nature of the reform which he considered necessary ; but whenever a measure of reform should be brought before the House, he would give the subject all the attention which it required. He agreed with the Noble Earl behind him, that reform was Moo- Intely necessary at the present moment to satisfy the feel ings of the people. lie was the last num to care about the clamours of a snob ; but he thought that Parliament ought to atte►fitl to 4tho wishes of the educated part of society, who wished 44 to the institutions of the country. In conclusion, he'ativised the Noble Marquis, when he in tended to deliver another lecture, to come better prepared for the task, anti less inclined to give way to his feelings. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY explained. The Duke of WELLINGTON said he would not have addressed the House on the present occasion but for the observations of the Noble Duke who precede l him. He felt an obligation to the Noble Duke for giving him au opportunity of explaining to the House the circumstance of the letter to which the Noble Duke had referred. Before however, he entered upon that subject, he must beg leave to state to their Lordships. that no man could concur mute entirely than he did with the Noble Duke in stating that his Majesty was probably the most popular Monarch tha► ever reigned in this country; and that probably his Ma. jesty deserved the popularity which he enjoyed more en tirely than any Sovereign who had preceded him..—(Hear,) The let►er which was written last night by his Majesty's co►nmand to the Lord Mayor, was not connected in the least degree with his Majesty's popularity; on the contrary, he believed the letter itself stated that there was no doubt of the attachment of the citizens of Lond,,n t f his Majesty. Firat ofall,lie would begin with that which was more im mediately personal to himself- On the day before yesterday Ira reeeivtil from the Lord Mayer elect a letter, which, with the permission of the Howe he would rea d ..-(Hear.) It was at follows " My Lord Duke,—Front the situation of Lord Mayor, to which I have been elected, numberless communications are made to me, both personally and by letter, in reference to the Pth, and it is on that account that I take the liberty of addressing your Grace. " Although the feelings of the respectable citizens of London are, decidedly loyal, yet it cannot but be known there are, both in London as well as the country, a set of desperate and aban doned characters who are anxious to avail themselves of any circumstance to create tumult and confusion. While all orally respAxtability in the City are yieing with each other to testify their loyalty on the occaslon i from what I learn It is the intention Of some of the desperate characters above alluded to, to take the opportunity of making an attack on your Grace's person on your approach to the Hall, Every exertion on my part shall be used to make the best possible arrangement in the City; ' and at the same time I feel that should any 'violent attack be made In one quarter, any civil force alone might not be sufficiently effbctual, and I should not be doing my duty, after what I have heard, did I not take the liberty of suggesting to your Grace the propriety of coming strongly and sufficiently guarded. I pro. bably may be considered giving. you needless trouble, but the respect which I, as well as every person who really wishes the welfare of the country, Must have tbr your Grace, and the grati tude we owe you, has inducted ma to adopt this course. I have, scc. (Signed) ' 1 JOHN KEY, Lord Mayor Elect." When he received that letter he considered it his duty to refrain from going to the Lord Mayor's feast. He certainly telt that he was placed personally under the protection of the law ; but he did nut think that he should be justified either -tip going to incur and' . 'brave the risk of creating confitaioh and tumult in a procession in which the King was to appear, or to seek for himself protection under any force, civil or military, and thus not only to have created that confusion anti tumult, but likewise possibly to have occasioned bloodshed.—(Hear, hear.) Under these cir cumstances, when he received the letter from the Lord Mayor, lie considered it his duty to refrain from attending the feast. Htivittg communicated this determination to his colleagues, and having, besides, communicated to them, not only this letter, but several others which he and his night lion, Friend the Secretary of State for the Home Department bail received, on the saute "object of the possibility of tumult anti confusion in the city, on the occasion of his Majesty's visit to the Mansion. house, they considered it their duty to recommend to his Majesty that bit should postpone his visit to a future occasion. He needed not, on the present occasion, go into the particulars of all the informatioU which he had re ceived on the subject. His Right Hon. Friend and hint. self had, from a variety of quarters, information of an in. tentinn to attack the police—of an intention to extinguish the lights—of a variety of intentions of riot and disorder; and although they had in their power the means of Sup pressing such confusion and tumult, yet he must say this, that they considered it far preferable not to have such con fusion and tumult almost in the•pretence of the King, but rather toTecotnmend to his :Majesty not to put himself in the situation of witnessing it.—(Hear, hear.) The case did not rest here, lt would have been impoesilde tie such confusion and tumult could have been put an end to without the shedding of blood. The people were to he collected to without a pageant—namely, the visit which his Majotty intended to do the Corporation' of the city of Lon don the honour to pay to the Lord Mayor. It would have bean the King and hit Ministers, and the Corporation of London, who would hare collected the people on the very spot on which the confusion would have taken place. The very chance of such confusion, ti e d the chancel' of the con sequesers that might result from it, were sufficient grounde for his Majesty's' advisers recommending him not to go into the city.--(Hear, hear ) The - Noble' Lord asked whether there was any general disposition to riot and tu mult in the country. Ile answered that question distinctly in the negative..-.(blear, heir.) lit sa u te parts of the country tit which the Noble Duke moat know more than he possibly could, namely, the counties of Sussex, Kent; and Surrey, di.tutbmeee prevailed ; but, with the excep. tien of those •dirittirbances, and the stoppage of some works anti milfa in Lancashire, lie believed the nunntry was as tranquil at the regent moment as it had beat at any ((inner peeled. At thereinto: time he had au) doubt what ever of the troth of the tact stated by the Li-rd Mayor, namely, that there tvoitild.haVelleen confitsiim and tumult ,itt the city if the ptc.o tint hrul taken place to-morrow.— Having:sold so much upon the subject to which the Noble Dpke.had . referred, be would now only state, in addition to whit had fallen from his Noble nitro), that he Inai 11.1 ohjadlon so the production of the papers caller! fur by the N o w, mo rlit ii'epposite. There was no intention on the part of this Gevernuirr.r, :gird he believed there was none on the part of any Government, ta interfere between the two parties in the Nethet loots, except fr;r Prit purpose of establishing peuce,—(llear.) Thai Pled of FliflllVW.qpililY said, that the best hope for the - salvation of the curiahrY 40( 1 4 on a cordial union in support of the great' cause of reform. Iteform ale .t come, :Sooner or later ; lot the Willer it V/ 48 delayed, the less advantage would result from it, it will the misfor tune or the country to be strip! art AtbuittistrOlots wh'udi would yield only to intimidation. Those were not times in:which it would he wibe to trifle with the fueling* and interests 'of the .country for the benefit of a few indi viduale. ilttletts. shout I retrench every iota of that spies of cOen:iiture Which was tolvantageous only to 11.:::fl:4elL'es, but of an serviee to the country,—unless, above uli, they should restore to the People their just share . in the managonea of thOr'owri concerns, of which tit:; revolution of time had r4;liell theni,—tuiless te• vented with justice and impart:loy, they would never succeed jp gaining the confidence of the cowitry, or esta blishing the prosperity of the nation on .a solid hipp, The Noble Earl thee alluded to the eowlitiou of leelsnd, and speaLii.g of Mr. O'Comndl, said, that however mis taken that individual might be in his ,sett a, and iniwcver imprudent in his conduct, hr could never forgi.ft that he had Crowned the c :use of religious liberty with sttecess, 1%, Marquis of CLANHICAIti)L . tail' he would refer to the only point which engrossed the attention of the whole metropolis,--.ha meta the extraordmary conduct of Ministers In the advice which they bad given his Ma. 'Pity rodpeetinq his inteaded visit to the Lod 111,yor. What bad they done 'Y y advised his Majesty not to antonst ltim loyal subjects, thus throwing a tut cal the Corponition of the city of London ) and Rlamuat on the King himself. Did Ministers know the conse quences of the publication of the letter which had bein published that morning, without even the meagre explana tion which the Noble Duke had now given? The funds had fallen three per cent. in consequence. This wise an actual loss of property to the fundholdets, which, as, the Noble Duke seemed determined at all hazards to retain offi,* with his present colleagues, they were not likely soon to retrieve. The excuse which the Noble Duke had of fered for the advice which he had given to the King was, !hat he (the Duke) was unpopular. Was it news to the Duke to hear that he was so ? The Noble Duke had stared nothing which was not known on Saturday. Why, then, had he allowed the letter to the Lord Mayor to be circu lated all over the country without explanation ? Any per aunal attack on the Noble Duke, he Would deprecate. as strongly as any man ; but as a' Minister be was determined to oppose him, and he only lamented that others who moil dereii his government detrimental to the best intere,ta of the country, should resort to an unjustifiable mode of ex pressing their hostility. Nothing had occurred to justify the Duke in sounding the alarm through the country as he had done. A large military force had been drawn up round the metropolis—artillery was iu readiness, but all these preparations had been set aside by the Lord Mayor's letter. The postponement of the King's visit was really a disgrace to the Ministry, and would lower the Adminis tration still more in the eyes of the country, by proving that it was as incapable in minute affairs as in more weighty and comprehensive rustlers. Earl GREY said he understood from what fell from the Noble Secretary for Foreign Affairs, that the. protocrl which had been referred to by his Noble Friend, made nu variation in the general AN:idiom existing under the ge neral treaty of Vienna, and in the obligations annexed to the junction of Belgium with Holland. So far, every thing was satisfactory, and the Noble Earl had declared his intention of laying the protocol before the House. lie must confess, however, that some of the observations which had fallen from the Noble Earl and from the Noble Duke at tire head of the Government, had caused him some uneasiness. He would repeat—what he lied stated on a former occasion, mid what hie Noble Friend had also' urgsd that night—his conviction that on the face of tire treaties there was no obligation contracted which could en gage this country to interfere. in the internal government of Belgium and Holland. He concurred with the opinion expressed by his Noble Friend, that it was cons'etent with sound policy, justice, and the independence of nations, to abstain from all such interference. The Noble Lord and the Noble Duke opposite, when they spoke of amicable interference, seemed to point at something like interference with the internal government of the Netberlarals. He must pronounce his opinion, that this would be the most fatal policy that could be pursued on the present occasion, contrary to the interests of the country, and likely to lead to results of the most dangerous nature. He must also advert to what had been stated by the Noble Marquis (LonConderry), for whose expressions of personal kindness he felt obliged, as he always did when thine, expressions came from an individual fur whom he felt asincere respect. The Noble Marquis thought that the French revolution had been spoken of in terms of approbation in that House. He had certainly expressed his opinion upon that impor taut subject, but lie begged the House to recollect, that he had said all revolutions were to be lamented, and only to be justified by extreme necessity. Ile bad expresed his approbation of the French revolution, which was rendered necessary by the most flagrant attack on the liberties of the subject ever made, which reduced the people to the dreadful altereative (and the measures now being pursued in this country were leading us to the mime situation) of choosing between absolute aubmiSsion or resistance. This was fuel principle on which be applauded the revolution which had taken place in France, followed as it was by the greatest moderation and generosity on the part of the successful party.—( Hear, bear, )—Still he should never allow himself to take the liberty of commenting in that House on the conduct, Legislature, or Government of an independent country iu the way which the Noble Marquis hail done, who, having formerly disagreed with his Majesty's Mi nisters, now felt bound to support them. He hoped his Majesty's Ministers did not agree with the Noble Marquis in the sentiments expressed by him, for that Noble Lord not only called for an amicable interference in the affairs of Belgium, but went the length of desiring armed inter vention. if the Ministers did agree in the sentiments so expressed, adieu to the peace of this country to the peace of Europe !....(Fleur, hear.) So much in refer ence to what had been allutital to in the early part of the discussion. Since then many subjects had been intros duced, and one most important, on which the interest of the House had been chiefly engaged. Ile felt, in common, he dared to say, with every hotly who read the letter, signed by the Secretary of the Home Department, inserted in the newspapers of the day—a feeling of something like irrita. Lion ; and its was not without regret and disappointment that he saw that the Government hail thoughtit necessary to issue such a letter.—(Hear, hear.) We were at the present moment concerned with no inconsiderable danger at home; did his Majesty's Ministers suppose that it would tend to diminish the dangers, or increase the means of re sisting them, by making such an exhibition to the world ? —(Hear, hear.) We were at present engaged in difficult, not to say doubtful, negociations abroad ; did the House believe that it would tend to the NUM ss of theme negoti ation* to find Ministers holding out to tine kingdom and to Europe such a picture of the state of things in this cram. try as that of the Alonareh being advised not to fulfil the engagement he had made of acceding to the wishes of his loyal people of the City of London, by appearing among them ?---(Hear, hear.) Therefore, he certainly felt some thing of irritation, disappointment, and regret, when he saw the announcement which appeared in the newspapers. That there might not be circumstances of danger to make such a proceeding necessary he was not prepared to any. On that point his Majesty's Ministers knew more than be did ; but unless they knew much more than had appeared in that night's debste, lie could , not help thinking that the measure which they had adapted was very ill ad vised.--(hear.) But notwithstanding the many pain ful feelings excited by this subject, there was one topic of consolation and of pride, to which he alluded with plea suria—natriely,the announcement which was now- made, that' that measure was, not (minded on any necessity fur providing for the safety of his Majesty'eperson.—(Hear, hears )' He lilt, us the Noble Duke opposite and many other Noble Lords bad expressed themseivee, that if ever monarch reigned in the heart of his subjects it was the present vertigo. That august person did, without doubt, enj ry tire undivided affection and attachment of the people of this country,-..(;tear, hear.) Ti, him personally, them mathd be no danger, nor, hoisted, .did it appear, from the slatenertit of the Noble Duke .opposite, drat any dans ger was threatened. But the Noble Duke had produced it letter from the Lord Mayor elect, accordime to which, the principal danger to be ripprehended was an attack on the person of the Noble Duke.--(Hess, heir.) On the subject of an attack of that nature, be must, with his Noble Friend who spoke last, declare his utter abhorrence. -..(Char, bear.) Were he the political enemy, which he was not, of the Noble Duke, he would yet be the first to place himself, at any post, where he could most effectually defend, tire Noble Duke from an attack, which was uns untidy and unsEnglisli in its nature.—(Hear, bear.) Ife deprecated in the strongest manner any attack on the per son of the Nuhle Duke, and he regretted, that on any po. litical account such feeling lied arisen in the entitle of any part of Majesty's subjects.—( Hear, hear.) Yet this wactlasiger to the Noble. Duke's person, which the Noble Duke very properly intended to avoid. That he (Earl Grey) thought was a wise and prudent determine. tion. But, as far nos respected the promiueut feature of the ' letter front the Lord Mayor elect, the danger did not appear to be such as net;tl bave prevented. his Majesty from going I to dine with his loyal subjects.—(lleac.) But there was something loosely stated of other ilangers....eo me tia og about placards concerning the police ; and disaffected per sons, it was said, would take advantege of the dank night --(eusl it seemed now, for the drat time, to ler discovered that there woo dark &rights in November).-to create tu mult*, ar i d commit oiler illegal acts which bad not been very clearly dear:Hied. Ile must say, that that informs- Con wire rather vague and loose, and was not of such an elerniing nature as need have inducest tile Adoption irf the d e t e r w i sla ai o n to which his Majeatys advisers had come. At 14 h ut t i mo did the Government hope, that in this great Mum, containing among its virtuous iababinuns many evil.iiisporieri spirits, a tinge assembly of the people might be coll e ct e d in the open Or in the desk. hours of night, and no illegal eat be committed ? If the Noble Doke waited till the hour when such danger would no longsr exist, not only to-morrow, but every day, would his Majesty be pie. - ven t e d f ra m allowing to his arbuirieg people ; and no considerable meeting for the purpose of etrirlic rejoicing oathl take place without being aborted to titian. flinger.-- ( Hear. )—Nothing could be more loose or more unutisfue. - Cory than the statement of tile Noble Drake. If such a colminuitiotilitx be4.loen made to him (Earl Grey) a s was made to th , N o m e Doke, his fast ohjeet would have been to inquire into the circumstances, and to endeavour to learn w h at were th e grounds of the statement of the. Lord Mayor elect. Their Lordships knew, that at 4 former period there had been a Lord Mayor who was a Man of peat timidity, and who was prosecuted for entuluct which was the result of excessive fear. Ile alluded to the Lord Mayor of the year 1750. 110 did not know what was the character of the Lord Mayor eleet ; he might he a man , of similar timi . , ,city, and disposed to miugnify daugent.—(li ear , h ear .) — He took it fur granted that the Duke had tootle ,ccurate inquiries respecting the statement of the Lord Awor elect, and had satisfied himself that the danger was real : that attempts vete intended to be made of the most dal nature; that means existed of carrying these inteta iotts into effect ; and that there was no other way of pre. venting those attempts than by putting a stop to the core .nony of his Majesty visiting the citizens of London. 11 :hat were the case, something might be said in approval of the step which the Ministers liad taken. But the in formation which lie hail received was of a very different nature; and even since he had been in that House, infor mation had come to him of a meeting of the Court of Aldermen of the City of London having taken place that very day to inquire into the subject, and the result of their serious deliberation was, that they had come to a resolution that every necessary precaution had been adopted; that they were satisfied there existed no reason to apprehend real danger, and that the Lord Matra Elect was totally unauthorized to make the communication he did to the Noble Duke opposite.—(Hear.)—This same statement had been made by authority from the Court of Aldermen in another place, and under such circumstances he did think that the honour of the Government was brought into ques tion in a manner that could not be very well justified.— (Hear.)—He had thought it necessary to ray thus much. He regretted extremely the course which bad been taken, and which appeared not to be authorized by sound judgment end discretion. No danger, it was clear, was to be feared on account of the Sovereign; the Noble Duke being the person threatened. lie regretted that that was the cue. He discountenanced and abhorred any attempt on the Noble Duke's person ; but he regretted that the Noble Duke did not resort to time remedy of which he at first thought. As it was, the course taken had occasioned alarm, when there existed no real foundation for alarm, and might materially affect the influence of this country with respect to other powers of Europe.—(Hear.) - The Duke of WELLINGTON, in explanation, stated that the Noble Earl was not correct in supposing that the letter from the Lord Mayor elect was the only Infor mation he received. He had referred to other letters beside that particular one. lint he begged leave to recall ' their Lordships' recollection to that very letter of the Lord t Mayor elect, which inflamed hint that the Lord Mayor -could not dependant the measures adopted by the civil au thorities to keep the peace, hut required military assistance. —(Hear.) He (the Duke of Wellington) had also stated to their Lordships that he had received information from a variety of quarters that an attack was meant to be made on the Westminster police. A Noble Lord asked— Could not his Majesty proceed to any part of Loudon without the police ? His Majesty certainly could do so, and needed no protection from the Westminster police. But it was nut a cave of his Majesty going alone to any part of London, but of a procession, which required the streets to be kept cleared for 14 or 16 hours out cf the 24. The police would thereke require to be collected to• gether fOr the purpose of executing their duty; and sup posing an attack were made on those persons, and that it were found necessary to interfere by military force to save their lives, was the Government to stand by rind take no measures? Would it be fit that his Majesty, in proceed ing to honour the citizens of London with his presence, should see a battle in the streets between his sold .cts, who came to behold the pageantry, and the police and the military? But this was not all. He happened to have in his pocket a band-bill, from which it appeared that colours and standards were to be hoisted, and a petition presented to his Mujesty in the course of the procedion.— ( Hear.) The variety of accounts which Ministers received from persons ready to come forward to substantiate them, was sufficient to induce the Government to hesi tate, even if they had not received the letter from the Lord Mayor elect. ' But he went further. There was a gentleman acting for the present Lord Mayor, who went out of office to-morrow, and that gentleman himself toll him (the Duke of Wellington) no later than yesterday that it would be absolutely necessary for the escort of honour which attended his Majesty to remain in the neighbour. hood of Guildhall during the time his Majesty remained there. It was, therefore, not impossible that blood might be spilt; and his Majesty, the Ministers, the Lord Mayor, and the Corporation of London, would have been the cause of collecting the people together. That was the view of the subject to which he wished to direct their Lordships' attention. Ile could assure their Lordships that he had never taken any step more satisfactory to himself than when he advised his Majesty not to go to the city to morrow. But the Noble Earl said that Ministers disco vered On Saturday last, fur the first time, that there were dark nights is November. He begged to state that some days back he received information of intended tumults from anonymous correspondents, from magistrates, and from persons who signed their ow n names t o th e i r com munications, and who came forward and stated them selves the ground* on which their intelligence was founded. Yet be was not disposed to take any measures until he got the letter from time Lord Mayor elect. That decided how he should act with respect to himself; and upon cornmu gedtnsia:mia)ectitneetouiliet,ri,ntioagytthlirinaigtdhelettetatrenmrdiansraidutitoludntahyuefrinsainitrvvniistiiinncglgt, to th l A a s ( ic l uojeil e se c tay e g rived unets)t, o it, o n e determination la c t‘ i ivo t i y 4ni c festival. be thate A nwcur g e r a e nt a to t at tl hi e in a n ! ge l beenainidsce c t h i l c on seq u ence inac s r a ei d oonf a w b t o ut hi th the mieforteno which might have happened to-morrow, if Miuisters had not taken that step; which' they did after considering the matter well, and viewed the consequences on both sides.—(Hear, hear.) The Earl of RADNOR did not think the second expla nation of the Noble Duke satisfactory. The Noble Duke had told the House that he had received information from a variety of quarters, respecting intended tumults; but he ltd not stated whether he took the trouble to inquire whether those npprehensitins were well founded or ground less. If the Noble Duke made any investigation in the subject, he bad certainly come to a different moult front that at which the Court of Aldermen had arrived. He regretted that the letter signed by the Secretary for the Home Departmeut had circulated for 16 hours in different parts of the country, unnaccornpanied even by that expla tuition which his Majesty's Ministers now gave of the matter. It there was disaffection in London, watts there not also disaffection in the country, and would not that letter create confusion and alarm? Would it have no effect in Ireland ? If the Noble Duke had inquired into the state meets contained in the letter of the Lord Mayor elect, and found them (oared, will be not follow up the step he has taken by some other measure? What caused this disaf fection—what occardoned this rebellion in London? Forty or fifty thousand respectable householders were ready to be sworn its to preserve the peace. What, then, was the fear? There must be a rebellion, if the Lord Mayor, with that great force, was incapable of preserving the peace. The Noble Duke was bound to take measures tar inquire into the causes of diseffection in this town, and which were being spread in several parte of the country. lie expressed his astonishment at the indifference with which their Lordship* had treated this important ques tion. It was quite surprising that when matters of such moment ought to occupy their attention they had con sumed nearly an hour in (pedicure about the slave-trade, and radieal or moderate reform. He gave credit to the Noble Duke for having investigated the information he received, for it would have le:eir the height of retainers nut to do so; but lie thought the Noble Duke ought to have *bleed the first moment of corning down to that House, and calling open their Lordedrilre to take measures to pre serve the peace of the country. He should say no snore at present ; but he thought that if the Ministers did not follow tip the course they had taken by some substantial 'measurer., it would seem a betrayal of their trust. The Marquis of BUTE • eouhl net conceive how the Noble Lords opposite came to the conclusion that the rea sons assigned by the Noble Duke, for the advice which he gave his Majesty, were insufficient. That advice was given with the view of avoiding the shedding of blood and the destruction of property. Na MU, 110 would venture to sa y, knew better than tits Noble Duke bow to encounter these risks, !lc dares do all that does become a man e f. Who dams do more is none," He give him credit for taking every precaution to avoid the spilling of blood. lie lied heard a great deal about the unpopularity, of the Noble Duke, but he asked their Lordships what wam this popularity of which they talked ? bid not their Lordships recollect, that a few months ago there was not a more popular man than the Noble bake? At the time of the reviews in Hyde -park, what man wet mo re popular ? if their Lordships troubled their heads about' personal popularity, he for one did not; and if by t h e advice which Ministers had given their Majesties they risked for a moment their poptearity, he was sure they. Would ultimitely gain more general popularity than would have result, d him following any other line of conduct. Ho felt gi meinl that these men who knew the value of weed, bad tal;cn precautions against its being spilled. The diseipiNion here eloSed. Upon till motion of the AsArqUis of LANstiowNE, an whieess with ordered to be preheated to his Mujeety, pray itlg f o r copies of the documents which the Noble Marquis. 1 1 ,4 specified in his address to th e m dse . Adjourned at Half-past Seven o'clock. HOUSE 01" COMMONS, MonoAv, Nov. 8. The ktirtAVY.IL took the chair shortly helot.. Three 'cloak, several :Members Were sworn in, and many peti. ions prevented. Ag soon as Sir ROBint? Put. had taken hie Neat, Lord ALTHORI I rose. He . did to for the purpose of alai the Right Hon. Secretary of State, whom he now .8W is his plane, what could have been the cause of the extraordinary course which his Majesty's Mi nisters had advised their Sovereign to adopt, namely, that of declining to dine with the Lord Mayor and Cor poration of the city cif London. Such a course was to his (Lord Altborp's) mind most extraordinary, and be had not the least doubt many other persons were of the same way of thinking. He way sure the step that had been thus taken would lead to the greatest alarm and confusion. lie felt most anxious to know the cause, being certain that such a course could never have been warranted had not his Majesty's Government had some intimation of the dangerous consequences that would result from the adoption of the course originally intended to be pursued by his Majesty. Sir ROBERT PEEL—Sir, I feel anxious to give every information and explanation on the subject to which the Noble Lord has adverted. I have no hesitation in saying that the letter which appeared in the newspapers of this day is authentic, and that the signature which it bears is "my own. I have felt myself bound to give that advice to his Majesty, from a desire to preserve the public peace. His Majesty feels perfectly satisfied of the loyalty and affection of the citizens of London ; but he was at the same time well aware, that when thousands of innocent people were assembled together at night and in such a situation, any person might, for the purpose of plunder or outrage, produce such disorder that might be productive of the worst consequences. There was one good and sufficient reason why the Govern ment should have taken the step they had done. A new body of men had been appointed by the House to preserve the public peuse, and if his Majesty had gone to the city a great number of that body must have been withdrawn from all parts of the me tropolis, and from nine o'clock in tho morning all the streets leading from St. James's Palate to Temple`. bar must, as it wee desirable to preserve the peace by civil force, be guarded by the New Police ; and as many of them had to be on duty all night, many parts of the town most be left neglected, and consequently, if any misehievous designs were in contemplation,tbuse parts would be exposed to plunder. That.austh designs were in agitation there was great reason to apprehend. In fact, he Will of opinion that there was net a sufficient civil force to preserve the peace.—(l'fear.) Let the House consider the disturbances of Friday and Saturday last; and they must have noticed the industrious attempts made to influence and inflame the public mind against the New Police. Many thousands of handbills were printed and circulated against the civil force--.-some of which he would read. The Right Hon. Gentleman then read several— The first beainning, " To arms! to arms !—All London meets on Tuesday next;—and, Englishmen, shall such an opportunity for redressing our wrongs be lost?" ifcc. &c. The next bill began " Liberty and arms ! Englishmen, remember that London meets on Tuesday. You may rest assured that there are 6,000 cutlasses in readiness for Peel's bloody gang !—(Hear.)—Fly to arms," &c. Now, he (Sir R. Peel) would ask, what chance there was of the public peace being preserved when such means were being resorted to? There could be no doubt there would be sonic attacks made on single policemen or some atnep body marked out for vengeance. The military must be called in, and as such must inevitably he the case, he saw no reason for exposing the lives of innocent men, women, and children. Ile regretted as much as any one the ex pence that took place ; but he thought the public peace paramount to every other consideration. To show the disposition that was felt by the New Police, it was only necessary to show the assaults that were committed on that body on the 2d of November. The Police then had been attacked in the most wanton manner, and with out the least provocation. In the execution of their duty they apprehended a thief, and, for safe custody, lodged him in the house of an individual, whom house was shortly after attacked by an infuriated mob. Sixty-six cases of assault ou police-constables were heard before the Magistrates on the 3d of November. Forty-two were ordered to find bail, 19 were fined, and the others discharged on their own recognizances. It would therefore, be Been that no less than sixty individuals were charged in one day with attempting to break the public peace. Could, then, he would ask, a Ali , mater of the Crown, who held a responsible office, look with indifference on the dangers that everywhere threatened. Before he came to any determination, he bad received such evidence that carried a conviction to his mind that notwithstanding the universal attachment and loyalty to the King, his visit to the city would be at tended with alarming, and in all probability fetal consequences. The blouse would recolleCt that his Majesty's Government bad asked fOr no new lure 'to sup press the disaffection that now existed. They only stated that they were determined to pUt in force the authority they now possessed to put a stop to the agita tion that existed. He war aware—be was fully aware of the great disappointment that would he oc casioned by his Majesty's not going to dine in the city. lie knew the great sacrifices that bad been made, and great expense incurred, all of which no man regretted more than himself; but, as he had before mentioned, all consi derations were of minor importance, compared with the public safety.—(Hear, hear.) On an occasioa like the one contemplated there would naturally be assem bled on a November night an immense concourse of per sons ; and amongst them, no doubt many that would dis turb the public peace ; to preserve which it would be ne cessary to call in the military to assist the civil authori ties; in attempting to do which, in a dark night, it was probable the lives of innocent persona might be lost. These were the reasons that induced Ministers to advise their Majesties not to visit the City of London, and thereby spars them the pain they would endure in case human blood' had been shed. He knew it had been' said his Majesty's Ministers haul become unpopular ; but he would rather it be said so, than it should be said lie gave advice or agreed to a procession which was likely to be at tended with danger to the lives of individuals. He would submit to any taunt or any sacrifice rather than consent to a measure calculated to occasion a rlisturbance of the public peace,—(Hear, hear.) Mr. BROUGHAM said that in his humble opinion his Majesty's Government had acted most culpably in the ad. vice they hid given. He could assure the Right Hon. Gentleman that his letter, which appeared in the newspapers of this morning had caused the . greatest alarm and consternation.—(Cheers.)—All mercantile transactions had sustained the greatest inconvenience, and he could assure the House AS a fact, that the stocks bad this very day fallen three per cent.—(Loud cries of bear, hear, hear)--and this, it should be remembered, was after a fall of four per rent. during the past week. Such a state of things could not he looked ou without the greateitt alarm and. apprehen s io n . A n i n di v id u a l, w i t h out any fault of- his own, without any speculation, who was worth tens of thousande to-day, might be reduced to beg gary this day week lie thought the letter of the Right Hon. Secretary was a sufficient ground fur the country to sup pose that Minister', felt great alarm at his Majesty's in tended visit. Ile (Mr. Brougham), was, however, happy to hear from the statement of the Right Honour able Gentleman that he entertained no fears for the loyalty and attachment of the people at London and Westminster. He was glad to hear fist they were nut tainted, but had offered every mahatma, In their power to protect the Sovereign and preserve the pore. But then the Right Hon. Gentleman said it would he very den• gereus to have a great crowd collected on a November night. He could sce no such danger-convinced as he was that nine hundred and ninety out of every thousand were ac tuated with the greatest loyalty and desire to preserve the public peace. The King never could go in procession ' without a great crowd being collected, anti it was only justice to the people of London and 'Westminster to say that his person, whatever might be the crowd, Would be safe. On one day the country were told that the Sovereign could go in safety to visit the loyal citizens of Lon• don--and a fe v days afterwards, a letter comes front the Secretary of State to the Lord Mayor, which says tliat the King could not do so with safety.-• (Hear, hear.)— To what an opinion must this lead in the country, or more particularly abroad, where his' Majesty's popularity was not so well known: did it not look as if' our gracious Sovereign had lost his popularity when they were told by an officer of the Crown, that he could not go through town without creating a riot?--(Dear, hear.) — Such, however, was not the case. The King was as po pular as ever. The King could go as irately through Lon don as ever.—(Cheers.)—The King should go and leave the unpopular Duke at home.—(Cheers, and liughter.) Lek him be shut up in his house, and there defend it.— (Hear, hear.) He would repeat that the .King was us popular as ever—that be would be as safe as ever —and that lie would advise him to go and leave his unpopular compulion behind biro.- (Chcerr.) Sir," concluded the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, " I will' I had not lived to see the day when forgetfulness of those memorable achievements which have made for the Duke of Wellington, as a soldier, as a conqueror, as the defender of his country, a great, a brilliant, an imperials. able renown, has been coupled with the deviation of his Grace from his own proper sphere, and his attempt to' nialse himself what, it is plain,, : naturee who made him so great a General, never intended to make him,-__a great and useful Statesman :—when forgetfulness, by the rabble, of those splendid merits which no subsequent demo he ought ever to erase from the memory of his country; merits as a soldier, and, in some reopen, write ti A Statesman too (although I am aware that on that 86 ,. ! there are differences of opinion );-- I say, Si r ; I ws 4 1 part of the people, united with fee t /. debase un the pet I mpossible for him safely to accompany his Sovereigs ta el l l lil l ', o l'''r o ti a lali d ls v l. v ti visitC t l'ilet e i ) ih i h'e i n °l l. y f p: 'e l iP o n:l c O Glt s De . t:a i l u ntl t ' u Ln'ilel i i p a‘ n r k.ft e el j i l t ' : s e d ioi:t9 yn o t o tml.t ° ,l% )fc °‘. e °'d i g t th t l a ui u er : E yw i l l r' es e (de o b Ssl i i "I r aou d i tsn' pi disclaim I , l r e i v aaieng , ne c oi l : . cp c ah'dc uo el eatph i l i , : lye , lrye as o :l'a l ) iv when proper foi. t eh:h) ci a r st i :n i n a oose CS t ept t a eeh a a 4npc heartsct i:c i r k r i tut t r e o ufrl t a°ll v h f' l oalreir: fvo I.:it sasuhntrh lei8);1 ::rinil 1 ilij:l.'s:::td(min:.l; 5:1:::::: sitii t m he w o h Lef en rsod evinced. lie condemned ma much to woo lington. That cheer of his to which the Right flos• Gentleman had so pointedly alluded, wo excited by Ids that the Right Hon Geutletunt's tru er to quillity of the country, and his finding that it rosily, r'''' carded only fiom the unpopularity of the Duke of el. lingfon. , But were his Majesty's Ministers to cogitate thus wantonly to endanger the peace of the tosotg? Were they to continue to allow their own unpopulafilY , prevent his Majesty from enjoying the popularity al"' own character? Sir 11. pm,. said, it must be evident that be did oot wish to treat the protein question as a que.tioo oi 1)1 1 . His object was to co-operate with the Hum and Ford Member for Yorkshire in endeavouring to coniplillin I '' s country. He would, therefore, omit all natice of his sa casm ; express his admiration of the Hoe. and Lar' l Gentleman's intentions ; and admit that he had put a ca rect construction on the whole transaction.. lia l i ' e. e f e e lieve with the Hon. and Learned Gintlemon that their Majesties might have gone topliietrbaceiYocuittalyriewedAittoehnnoliDuoyntfgaciakt"teilityhatolditir4iuld'fPBl3:•:' venience but that perhaps arising from an exuberance of affection on the part of their subject'; he did believe that from one end of the procession to the other,. their 310/ ,„ would have been received with one uolstresi tlew""" i t ' l :( of loyalty ; he also believed that every pools P"'"" K " property would have exposed himself to any intiger in e. deaveuring to preserve dole public peace, a foli 14 which the voluntary offer of fourteen or fifteen butndre from p e rsons fur that purpose afforded sufficient evidence. So for respectable inhabitants of the ci t y of believing Lo that any disloyalty o r disaffection ex^ated amo b e' ng the he ev that on no occasion bad a greater spirit of attach, ! meat to th e S o v e reign been man ifested thou would, baleve been manifested during the intended viait. But l i the e e cHonotutasebciesalmwloyureldflieicatveoubtbeien cousenelimtiebnitdin issulloientei All All would have been placed by the projeeted festival. An t l ' ili firemen would have been employed to the procesion . 4 ", an early hour of the day. Would it have beru soli . leave the whole suburbs of the town exposed too oes t tns i wil Y elliaev o colinie u scyru l h d ob junoi i e,n t euing h tth a wa v te e ntost br i:ea t et ii i i ng g ifii h nn t oedlffen v o o toar l d u e u tee t g a n r t i ipe ; :r t iob o uini a ieb l i l o o nit w oob t ii ; h e ord e m o e ll :, gation of an enormous crowd on a November night, 0 1 ; might be avoided ? St ould it booboo right to rli me v il s h i tt l i, a eris i eleoy ? usuep : alti lve ird a t l l i t , em h: was anxious to weld 1141 ' pre sent a ll t la a j n e ) s , ty til to ureyes; the affections of his subject*, or °lt Btu Hoare at an Mr. Alder:a f t: Wit any Hon. Member in his &Wow, and that hello' iir l e ng . twh i h t :As to ibK,u l r re itiin xi; elitosit:dsluottynoipwtet.ion:us°llipiliL:rof.oltb"t:telt:illtier;l:::: H altogether silent. They were-placed in a nowt ex _,... 01 , nary situation. They were told tint almost then:frt oular Monarch that ever sat on the British throt, 77, not go and see his subjects in the city of L0..10,,,p,";,,, the risk of disturbing the public pare. It I s Cato the t lysaf o li oini d r r u e deviate flow observed, that u rte y l is tuviltli liretsorrYoul; en him to state some farts which it was impel,,,,„ House a nd the public should know, iu addiiiros 10110 which had been stated by the Right Hon, Gentitono P ly would also venture to express, not what Ills hi' P o ly alone, but the opinion of the Court of Alderisea expn. called this morning ou account of the Right Hou• sat,_u: tlemin's letter. Among twelve individinde doe , one dissenting opinion. They were Magistrste tioor:lti city of London. Having sat in Committee 4 '7,1 „4,,,, take precautions for the preserratiosi of the . p d r ie t i t iw r ie fo, having sworn in a great body of retPee' able 1 7.i titie nt 0 0 that purpos e , i t was w ith t he greatest sstott , o, , _ t ht they this day heard that any apprelleo'i°" 'S t , t ju "tre matins of his Bfa* ' Government on the bar. .. A. c a o g n o t ed inun de ic a at l io o n fjr h a a qt d Yus t i n t aPPl3Pc7",wdh“tht: tittni:drilv'tiiit:tvabil:S°ll7l:)°l on the subject by thre e ,Ivirt ~caber individuals b had taken au active part ." hu , 1 fur the present Leid the Lord Mayor elect, who sae- c tatn uoicatioei l ' ei Mayor. Into the particulars °I ible'en°tlemsu would re would not enter; the Bight Hort. ' „ , he w ould OW' late them much better than he could. P t " ~ Lo ,ti May this :—shat when it was wet wined that t: eu:00 co,‘, elect had written to the Duke of Welliall n disturboor ' mattes, in answer to an inquiry whelber an y that,, 0 0 11 V" aPPrehentled, were unequivocally inquiryto tt i t., ay apprehension was entertained. 01 . de ' ro , hod geared that au Hun. Baronet, a iVorthY 4 . 1 , .11 ( 10 ; tl' been running a good tleal backwards and t u n , ' ~ ,t pi s though he (Mr. Alderman Waitliman) of c,frieoset:oo,4 icnow the nature of his communication. li, ‘,,,,i beta that it wa s most strange that no conorionicallo7ooo,l Made to the !Magistrates of London respeettlt;:catlite'' that was deemed of so much importance, ! im ` ta upoa i s ' Councils were, be believed, held Cat aelibera. woo He, although a Magistrate of the y, wits n-;, 1 , 00 by t bt the hoard ou which be stood of the letter o e ' n ' idlit iiit Lord Mayor elect, until the moroeut whey di ,',.ri t aota Gentleman's letter arrived. He then whey loy OA , down to the House, where he wan WO t° , ll c ook ti t Colleague of his, who, lie doubted not, make. sfa 11 ~, statement be had thought it h is duty to po t da !;; that the police of the city of London 1 1 ' 0 ,7 4 lo P 1 duty, and that the Alagistrates were not tor of Loaa,l the peace , was a groat reflection ou the I,...,l'beil e ' which it indignantly 1 epelled.—(llesn, be 1- ,;,/ tott his 0,1; was that one of two things' must go forth- - ,,„ 0 0( ie in,. , jest) , was nut eufficiently popular W triot i tr ; virt r Principal city, or that be hed an Atlicin's„o,oo f,',,:, was unworthy of his confide:mt.— ( llW.) ''„ l , tbe la the Right Hon. Gentleman's Mier had been 70epoo i j gistiates all declared that they could keep tier, frets „ anti it wait doubted' by his Hon. Colleague the of l' subsequently by many others, whether the .1, poll, day, the Under-Secretary of State for the /he tip t quire .pt Limeat° ftoriega nl ,:ielji il Right ig At l i 1 l e di f e l ti a uh i n o_ t Y u l at E ti w : r ti d th e eG ir ae e wl tei r : ne ptieth g genuine, t:p W een w mrisu a taporuee u x g .‘ i e. e t i at i d sd n si o h i l u w a n s ai lionies Guildhall , e . u et il to j c i n fity l , a t i i : de dt a t i ;: u s e l n iwiv r i iige i s i l pir il r e h i et i i t ta i ll ti i : : ., : : : i 1.. 1 0 : : : : i t t i t: e t: f l )41 : 1 9 tritir, 1 i t i.,, n t l i 1., , , pt; P : i i, b,. ! ' —that a most lamentable fall bad taken VW * , : - thri aig i ,: country. He again asked if it was not On, tb* L° rd Mayer Elect should not have crosulteti re d o dec &trace, or with the Members fur the 01' - a el 0 ..5 he could not trust himself with the expree'S-0 Arum', talon upon a subject on which his feelings nirro_oilastal excited. If the procession leery to have oec d w a ppreb es ; the delivery of the Speech from the 'Doge; Beor tt i t ' j sins) of tlw kind dwelt upon by the Right Ou t. 8e t`,.'l could have been entertained. lie stated , in ~ the ( 1 1 c , that speech had created great dissetisfaction ' 30 00 4 but still be anticipated no disturbance. 'fl i t : of titi , ', l to ogre well prepared to preserve the peace , 1. , t o ti a ale of Temple-bar, it related with the tioveronwe'hio, 4,• necessary measures for preventing' any di*T."Lats 6 7 01 felt as strongly as any other person could fee"ni w ati will were molesting the New Police.--( ! l ea ., Welt e d had never pronounced an opiuitat resPec ting... :i 110 1/. 71:1 kqew not whether the , ayatem wou ld be founo to•- . Jed tee': aer beneficial or not. It wry true be can't . " hut It ', ,- t ., • . mi. establishment of the New Police iu the v. 7 ' a lt" f because they had peculiar laws and govern:nen , twi t o own. In addition to their ordinary pace Wei ll , p rooe: people were ready to come forward and plescreel their o no, detaintethin.weialrtrt:nhti,inantthiatthattbeiflailinuisityerswehread ale ... 0 O s to at ar.:,„(ilior, it could not fail to bring In a verdict of iluela iE Y' and laughter.) • coul:dlr.assfluOrellifthOeUHSoEu,etrutshtedei that, as Memher t ,f i s tt r j!l minater, he might he excused fur *eying 1 1 . " ; „at la st should be YerY.ll.: Ile I" few' its possible on so momentious an occataiTj. ,i 0,,,, ate a. felt it his duty to inquire as far as he °w it h, Noll Speech from the Throne , and the declaration o be ito i F e ls Duke in another place, wbether or 11'4 o " o c baug o f nerally braid, namely, that there we, !Tyralitos._, the public of Won with respect to the Adam" ' wolfs ills w ien) l ° tSP even (if he might be allowed the ex pr e j otos ~, King himself, was true. And now he loyt e l ivoct i t y 4 8-i f illicitly to confirm what had been said by 0. 00 , or ot detruan. He begged to confirm tbe.stAtnwe and See r p its tole might, that there was, in the cotto na !, the citY* I A seise of the word, no disaffection whatever I _ l . w , it Al e tint common aoceptatiart of the word iiisarcc:lo,ot, leiti be applied to the general system of Go, !.. wy d set peodent of the Admioi.tratiott of the ..! c iao . EfoL, the term in this sense, he asserted, that n' s j ot a sstrli ws the Member for Middlesex Would coallrla