The Sun. — London, England, 1833-02-15 00:00:00

StCON_I) EDITION.. tided large same 107 count what the :11 he Corporation '9'it s treets, 63 42,54 ing gaols, free-s, üblic buildinBs; in i in prov n _ c o s of the tolls ' ild show thateth,,, the last 130,3 r hy tN 1 corporati.on!..', lose tolls n Lster, an d one ot."bi 00l thetrlna, roughs, who corporatio n. n-resident free4atrie An action o l ' il ytl ?tely establishteo, d withheld 1,3,010 irrears. Tills t o 0 Id he bel led t oo , ' overset 33 t° „ep6t so great 3 he Th v-sio e L ( v e done. ,_ v ho had fortnernbo Tower, b ut s' s ett proceeded Pr ° ho „01 i Learned CO" he al!' d had not 5nL5" SUN-OFFICE, Seven o'clock. chtZETTE THIS EVENING. iy's proceeding' ;SED c av OF ST. v — 4 I Y.) ;hly resPec` a- .... le f eri' d other rate-r',oll Id in the ves trY ;ol , t serious cowide 31 v islature to repel tnportant bu", n Bann i s ter 30 4 s ' io e os t respeetablY senior church' d the notice (03rrc; 3 the churchs, S. t h i jl consequenc - ;, h e c hurchWa r ";: e . pre Y to convene tl:top, s, it might n3 se eal of the 11° 4 ° Lave scrupled ' n too Such fe eli , i'g t ' ort i ! a ta x CO t e c oppressive ns`" bt that ire anx i o us or ,idered him sP ot it would aPP°into Board was al' kyal R . WA R.OFFICE, FEL 15, 1833. ,mrient of Horse Guards—G. T. Quin, Gent., to be teeth purcna.ie, v;ce Tyrell, promoted, Feb. , 45. Ad'eglinent of Dragoon Guards—Lieut. J. Vv V. D. Hebson to P eb,ie t ctt, lit ( .;erard, who re s i gns th e Adjutancy ooh, ~,,,Rllaent of Foot —Ensign NV, Landreth to be Lieutenant, to b e p"ase, vice Macleod, promoted; A. C. Sanderson, Gent., itb ',gm, by purchase, vice Landreth, Feb. 15. rpkirchwt't—Ensign M. Fortescue to e Lieutenant, without ti th;.,v,ce Dra:ie, deceased, Jan. 2; ; Ensign J Greethaln, s . . t esey e 'alf- PtY of the 30th Regiment, to be Ensign, vice Fon.,Feb• 15. 7 h ,`" -- , Lieut. C. T. Freer, from the lia.,:f-pay, to be Lieu. 111ptpeti~11:eqiii,:Vhi5e difference, vice Byng appointed to the '29,h • lase, B V. Derinzy, to be Major, without ptir- Z' 4 ee deceased ; Lieut. I'. Marsh, to be Captain, ro ) j4 l ,,,nzY ; Ensiga E.• \Volley, to lie Lieutena tr it , , m Gentleman Cadet E. A e N NVolle e y an F , els. 15. r i 4 !S ri s the tb.toooqt.suf_rollcogebtof be Eosig n n, i• ,t),,pg,l-le. SurgAen nvit.e : - N lie . tte d rs r o eu ,:3 . l.l) from ' the 78th ReFi. • who exchanges, Feb. 1, FT, viceol"-Capt. • Senhouse, from the half -pay, to he C no• Calder, who exchanges, receiving the difference, 1,41 i . W. F. Byng, from the ith Regiment, to ,.. be `he diffeanlenleielcevJe.bOi‘rN:Teill, who retires upon half-pay, receist g ART T.___Al BANK RUPTCIES SUPERSEDED. 11 - ' rstiod ~„ . 4 8 G ANK ROL/GER, erchant, Hud '"it"CLA It K F., ale .brew m er, Worcester. de • t „, \ VILL, IiANKRUPTS. . L.,(:1-,''"l FR EDERICK SPACKMAN, oilman, Wharf'. 40,`Y-od. 0,.1i jl 3 : II_EA RN, pl " ber,"Maldon, Essex. _.,.. -, tt .-..A1 DO LLAlt u a ni nd GEORGE THOMSON,. 31 er.. koHt‘rehousemen Bucklersbury. , . j,O,Ip;iI.V,YOLLAN; carpenter, Hatfield, Yorkshire. '4,116,0 r,031A.5, grocer, Walsall, Staffordshire. A '417 48 L OY I) JONES, brewer, Holyhead, nglesea. Lgtolil.AAG tailor, Birmingham. b i \ettkm:PlC, 'YZ A li, ti mber-iperehan t. Tuxtet".4rk* noar 'l4ll A Ni t. 13 I NXS, flour-dealer, Manchester. ki t .') WOODS, coal-mercant, Liverpool. N„I•11i 111,„YNE, dyer, Leicester. .41ki.^LIET PHII.LIPS, saddler, Plymoli '4 '6D, I. r-S H OLTZENDORFF BYRNL, th s . ailmaker, Li. 1AN1,,,, ‘ 1.„, COGSWELL, wharfinger, Liverpool. :OeOv%.O,d,vl4OOl:SELY, ' Staffordshire warehouseman, High_ die, G NI A THE WS, wine -merchant, Lawrenae Poun E.. • ‘ l Priti ALP Vitt lA- 11 EN I TIM EVENING. 1,1 H OUSE OF CO3I3IONS. ro, sp, L AxLit took the Chair about five minutes before n t kei eK . After prayers a number of Members went up L i l '!k,t a A l e to he sworn, among whom was Mr. Pease, the 4 1r, L " i ther. The other Members were sworn as usual f6 eY, the Chief Clerk, while that Hon. Gentleman th Az r malii•n administered to him at the corner of tke ". Ley, jun. On shaking bands with the Speaker 4 g 1e1, 11, general cheering front both sides of the House, It tl hi t 11 °o. Member acknowledged. He then went and eV' on the Ministerial side. I r t kha ro ,h'KIPWITH brought in the London and Bir- L'.ot,i I< Railway. Bill, which was read a first time. ti r v ' c lkild i t 2 4l/ ETH gave ' notice, that . on ,. the 2d of April h q i "ove for leave to bring in a Bill to make t 6'4 of a Quaker equal to the oaths taken by '''lt.lit-ofZee,, whereby he inight be enabled to lid any 144:',.41ticr.Man WOOD moved fur several returns re th e t h e L 111. snap trade. C KSTONE presented a petitio n p ra yi ng f or ,f1,11:,17 4 0% Ilse rvance of the Sabbath D a y. t f t iER presented a petition fr om th e U n it ar i ans • si l t. ~. p „ Ying f or a system o f general education. C a klad ."•NS supp orte d t h e prayer o f t h e pet i t i on. He I ,,, h t .t.lti t `° see that a notice bad been given for a Select h„I t o consider of this subject, the deliberation of h t ", 4l ', 10,""Pecl would lead to a great good. th e ft teoi , `)T HEETON also supported the prayer of the alrhfry. short speec h , not one word of which reached gnl~ in „ -ivENDIsu presented a petition from a Atlib"u4eX, praying for a b e t ter o b servance o f t h e eti l „Y; also one praying for a commutat i on o f t i t h es . r: 1 6, b 4T EIs said, from the fr e qu e nt communica tb 4 ' l had o f l ate w i t h hi s const i tuents , h e was k11)444 n othing at present agitated the public min d d ki th a ' this su bj ec t— no thi ng t h at they so much de commutation of tith es . H e hop e d th e subj , ct of ti'N' t , - "rm would not be cor.fined to It el ind, but would Engl ind,where it was almost equally needed. dgathe ~ fr "lo the liberal measures now put forward o,,,Pkint,7"mnent that the public wou ld not b e furadd • in their just h o p es . T o s h ow t h e g11t,,,, C hnrch R e f or m i n E ng l an d, h e wou ld on l y f ki l thi th e ltlStance. T. elf. was the parish of P e ven se y, h t M e vicar h a d not d one d uty, i n wh i ch, i n "ad not set hi s f oo t f or t h e l ast seventeen 11,4tt Wu h this v i car must be an advocate for li Yet tli t ' Ol , as w e ll as he himself was. His opini o ns tti ht tl 'it /I " , b ieet of Ch urc h R eform, were well known, dio 4 10 • Gentleman was one of the only six clergy- Ykti " Pported hi m at his election. H e mos t cot.- R t e l'Po rt ed the prayer of the petition. Rt iev 'k h lsatstcK olso supported the prayer of the Ll 4 "Ct s , hoped that in tl e.e d a y s o f R e f orm t h e 11,:kt,, i ', S oder whi c h t h e Di ssenters laboured would not t4°. P,! en t of: Such a cost. as hof b een c it e d by hi s 1401 w as enough to op en th e e y es o f any one to 14, w"tesaily ( h ere was for a speedy and efficient Re 13,ittt„d " it to b e a ll owe d t h at such casi.s should be f t( ' vXist, as t h at a in :n should draw upwards of ttl, i 4 ts b . r '''n a parish, anti yet for such a l eng th o f t i me ey h,.." n ear that pl ace , w hi c h i t was supposed (anti di 4 o -:" o , terianced by rece i v i ng th e money ) h e was 14 44 AI RAtidER said, th a t if every par i s h i n S ussex td t th:!**°t petitions similar to this, the excuse would tr b virig unaware of th e j ust i ce o f i ts p rayer , Thin C 5,4 t 1 W, (1, 1 tile subje c t, h u t b ecause t h ey h a d t h e ~ajhtitiawee in hi s M a j esty ' s Mi n i sters ta ki ng i t up. lyt t ,a' then l a id on t h e ta bl e. t " h 4l t l) CURTEIS presented a petition from "may of Sussex, praying for a repeal of the 4 tbl, t u t concu rre d i n t h e prayer o f t h e pet i t i on. i4c:tik R RELI, supp or t e d t h e prayer o f t h e pet i t i on, t Lt 11,4 4Poitunity of objecting to the Beer Bill, ,hti t Ptopi said, had tended greatly to demoralize 41 8 blo r ,:' h 1 tempting labouring men to spend N I) , , at beverage shops, instead of brew- Pes t NI), ?lesome at horne. Besides, these Nee*err,' d of having th e i r own b eer , as was ex • ' o pplied for th e most part b y t h e great brew he Whoi rr k 4 tt t 41 Many o f t h e s h ares b e l onge d . It .4,.t0t,, alt duty had b een t a k en o ff i nstea d o f 4p N , AA L Y , it w ou ld h ave b een much hotter. the 'LER said th a t b e h a d a l ways opposed the 6ti t fluty, and it had pre c i se ly th e e ff ects h e u rtv °l vt i b it w ould. N o t one o f t h ese b eer •shops brewed n wii t t, ", but received it all from the great public hall reaped all the benefit. At Quarter 't4,.*ttiri tlo ev ery where else that Magistrates had the r ., 4l 44, 4 'ti tri Y o o f convening together, they were all ready to L' l 'ltritt, - : ) '..t o the evil effects of repealing the duty. ''vt!,,.',, t k, - „ 1-j uvrices for which persons were tried at the titWitipac'n!, were found to have originated at these t he b 'ch were not as touch under the control ;tired fro ° 1 t, 4 S r fk R a b t " the public houses. 'atlitTON said that the test of success •niorit 4, 1 11 .is OP , his ' 1 )14 t tp. qulred to be applied by the Hon. Member, 1 ) 1, w ith th, i y p ow 00 It: et,m io e ility be applied to any Bill. The Hon. Verald. 4 b e _ I 1 4in e d that the beer-shops did not brew bar n ' • s fe 1, 41 4 I ke ", hut rung , t eei w.„re supplied by the great brewers. by ill' t ku Pie mrl , rcnase t he id( iratiuractures, that a large quantity offered 11 .tes' .. f e not I, '" at a cheaper rate than a small one, .and T " 0 1' ;1 4 th e ,: t. ''Pt from the operation of this principle. uce an 'I, Whilst the small beer shops could Chrd sic.- ; n th ( ititt4u. get old per 4 from the great brewers—cheaper os ID ° trot brew it theinselves—it was natural they !ee( r o d, oc i tr P P ')lk. t u th em ; and surely no law ought to be t ina V ti l e ser P i, 'th r u Plet this natural arrangement. s. it 4 ,'Qt r 4,."Pvet th immorality which had resulted I or °° „ 0 0 ,,e 11„ .4 11,,q't h" the rs • ifthe time 0 ty 7 roEti Beer of course, Hon. ty t•-•• that t e 'het Y tip d '"lre said that the part of the country nd hi, e suffered in its morality, dose' r o t U, th '4l, t, "li ort o la. tr' wn re ; t he° ,t t( \ ,, ut w 0 ) could not positively . Lon . 4- 4) " ed one • , Orkin 14, respect to the district with .e, 00 its pr t,4 ,ohurton) waa best acquainted, namely, l ''tv e ? s , v e4 f h the r : ets s Le could fearlessly say that the ,ef l• 'oft 0 4 . k ''Y th,; v6r king classes had been it any thing, Lieut.-0' 1 0 , 01 , , tßettlti,tnAktittico, a nt fo,Peration of the Bill. He could, icey p, tflab e t tl, I t, r a good deal of the attacks on, the Beer Bill, manifested by country itl 4 4014::41,trtttlit.Z. cir cumstanc e mentioned by the Hon. the 115icie' h „t O f namely, its having taken the ex t! Wio':•, ou n got °44'osi t i 7 .11 the poor man's pleasures and recrea- Haver" , I:4l ctrr t 14 41„ ° 41) 4nd5 ----( Hear.) ciae c sf "id the Hon. Member for Btidport e S 6 'eti • ° tt, at 11 . liness , b l e .5t op, the argument. He (Mr. S.) fully , t ••••(1,, Nre, " rt ioti, that immorality had greatly An i 'of tch h 4r ) • t ` l4 "-ne• ucen l ist e • - -it l of the estafbisliment of Beer rAit tad , rg a s 40 particularly so in the county if Q Of Pitt "Let l ,• n. th e pr i v il ege possessed t -y ‘, 0, h i it 41 public - houses, he knew that th e r e )U 4 elttrAte., duty so uopiessmat and so roorr. (THIS Dl° rong. —Arriv ed 'ara, Barbadn,, the Two 13 , , ° 01 an d remain so t S. W.- Ai l , w. to S.S.E•' 1 haler, Harrig , r i r:4os e islands, an d 01 0 ' e p roc eed to 1' o f tV d sold—Part )rt the TW ° Si't 1, Stewart, from from Tere eir3. o o Plutarch, J° h car' rleans. The ,on, from 3 1 3 '00 , from Ne vi , sP e Pearl, "ve'nloo Off port the '" ti° ll fary Camp bell' ,r 1 from Dern e ! o f 0.- th ; and all' 0.0 0 enty-sil d ,) x t, ids, on the i v. tr ee: isembarking ;00 1 gate, 011ie ho sailed f r '' ''' „ e rVl , The Gl e9 ' Clyde and l ie : 1 4 offthe c ° 4 3s- :.;or ll' I , fajesty's Hance, fe° r° I,o o' ter the Jao., e o ', tP I I)ominica DAY.) O' CL 0 I, C e lC ;i uebec to t ece if have been T. )USC. rs.) l bt past enve• - • 0 1,31). tion to the P 1 ,,,e0 ;eat in r 3rl ;i At las been n al'' , fry lose disnzi's a. , ptlr lepartmem , ,,, !of Assen w ' pre t 31 4 hat a ruinoll re would tal'e seAt resigns i''' G oe o I AttorneY- )f interest• tet i ;h ti rec- , ° . E ly, cal news f" came loWe - A er do' left off Ye' ig as yet. o f ite as that yesterday AST 01V ne ve a continent o f II early Pa rt od e Account! 0, se i s a ttrib u to .1 ry ordersfay' ng been fa' to Market. 0 .0 tbeY, tl , ) the pr e ' 3 ifit l' ecurities ..- O'CLOCK' _ ...... _ , .. . _ \ - 1 ..... 1i ( ‘• . ' , 2. 11111116411...* ..: .1 s '.."d.. -' 4 1 ~.. '.... '- ----___.---- (No. 12,616 ) Icatme as that.—(Hear, heir.) The Bill was no douh. Of some advantage in great t, - ,wns, but it operaied very it furiously in the county. Mr. L FENTON said that in thst pat of the country to which he belonged there was sca , cely a murder or rubbery contempla-ed but had its origin in beer-shops : and it was high time that the Legislsture too!, into its consideration the best means of altering at. Bill. He regretted the retnarks th,t • had been mad, on the Magistracy ; and he implored Honourable Men,- hers to look at the difference in the mode of conducting ' public-houses and beer shops. In the .0! iner there mi.. great order, contrasted with the latter.—(Hear.) H knew be spoke the sense of the 3lagi•traey when I, declarsd that not one of them rested a particle of his fame or credit on having control over the public houses. H e was sorry it was the fashi-n of tie day to attack the Magistrates, and to bring into disrepute a class of per sons whoa. duty it was to ke 'p other classes in order. Mr. SLANEY was of opinion that it would be better if some greater security cs ere required from persons keepin;.-, beer shops, and that, in taking the supervision of th,. Magistracy, the Bid .had done very great injury. I, a matter of this nature, where , the lal.ouring classes were so much concerned, they should proceed with grett cite and caution, and by aiopting a middle -course- they I woe t 1 remove the evils complained of, and at the same time reserve the benefits of the measure. An HON. MEMBF.R. was of opinion that the greites• boon that could he given to the people would be the repeal of the rn.tlt tax.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. HUME did not attribute the evils complained ni, regarding the morals of the poor, to the beer-shops ; and f thought that by suppressing theni none of the evils would be removed, but the people would be driven to the gin shops. The whole of those evils he attributed to igno rance and a want of education : remove those cause, raise the character of the people, and nothing was to b: feared if the beer shops were allowed to be continued open, Mr. HARVEY strongly advocated the repeal of the malt-tax, and the means of enabling the poor man to brew for himself a wholesome beverage. At present be could not do that for two reasons; the first was, that he could not afford to purchase utensil., and the next that he could not borrow them, for any person who lent utensils for brewing subjected himself to a penalty of 50/. A friend of his (Mr. Harvey's) was fined 501. for lending a person his brewing utensils. The petition was then laid on the table. Mr. YELVERTON presented a petition from the bo rough of Carmarthen, complaining of the election of their Magistrates. Mr. TYNTE moved for a return of the 8111114 paid in all the counties of England on the personal estate tax. Mr. SHEIL presented a petition from Listuolin, in Tiperary, for the extinction of tithes. The Hon. and L'-arced Member gave notice, that in the Committee on Irish Church Reform he should move a clause to exclude Irish Bishops from the House of Lords— (Hear, hear, hear)—and that on the 25th of February he would move to bring in a Bill to enable Roman Catholics to hold scholarships and lay-fellowships in the University of Dublin. Mr. ROEBUCK presented a petition from Bath, fcr the repeal of the assessed taxes. Mr. HUME presented a petition from South Shields, complaining of the intimidation used during the late elec tien at that place. Mr. INGHAM nefended himself from the charges in :he petition, and contended there was no fon ndation for :hem. LEFT SPEAKING. HOUSE OF LORDS. The Loan CHANCELLOR having takon the Chair at five o'clock, The Earl of RODEN presented petitions, numerously signed, from Brecon, Dundee, L , rig Preston, in Yorkshire and several other places, praying I,r the better observance o! the Sabbath. Good example ought to be set to the lower orders by the frimers Qf the laws and Vie higher classes. There was one hardship especially to which shopkeepers and trades:nen who were desirous of decent y observing the Sab , :ath were subject, viz., shops being kept open on Sundays by other persons, to the great injury of their trade. The Bishop of LONDI.N and the Ea;l of WnsTmottE LAND presented several other petitions up,ln the same subject. The Earl of WARWICK presented a petition from a town in Warwick4nre, praying for an alteration of the poor laws. Lord COLVILLE gave notice that, on Thurs lay next. he would move fur the re-appointment of the Committee upon the affairs of the West Indie. DISTURBANCES IN IRELAND. The Order of the Day having been read, Ertl GREY rose, and moved that that part of hi• Maje , ty% Speech which related to the disturbance, in Ireland should be read, which having been done he •he clerk of the fi,ose, the N ble E,ll addressed their ships as follows :—My Lords. in conformity wish the g,aciouit communication which you have just beard rraii from his Majesty's gracious speech from the throne. I now rise to per ottn the painful but necessat v , uty of propo-itu, to >our Lordships a Atli I r the more effectual suppression of local disturbances and tiangf rous a.s• mblies in Ireland. It is, indeed, my Lortis„ sinful to hear of the extent of violence which is stated in his Aljesty's speech to have pre raihd to an ext , nt that is most lamentable, ren dering lie and property insecure, bidding defUnce to • . _ the law, and threatening if not prompdy and eff squall) suppressed, the most fatal consequences ; still more painful is it to me to state th.. conviction that this melancholy necessity cannot be sufficiently provided for by the ordi nary powers of the law, and that it should become necessary to propose to Parliament to enforce the executive Govern ment with aslditional powers in crder to enable it to per form its duty of protecting the loyal, peaceable, and indus trious portion of the community against a system of folly and violence threatening them with the most serious cons e . quences. My Lords, beft,re I proceed to lay before your Lordships the grounds upon which the measures I shall have to propose have been founded, and the details of the measure itself, it may he fitting that I should state why his Majesty's Ministers have not, as has been usual, thoug's I believe the course has not been invariably pursued on former occasions, applied for the previous ap pointment of a Committee to inquire into the circumstances which have produced the necessity of adopting such a step The reason is obvious, and highly indicative of the state in which that country is placed. It is, my Lords, be cause the evils that exist in that country are so notorious, that they cannot require a Committee to induce your Lordships to act promptly and vigorously. It is not in this case, my Lords, a secret conspiracy acting under an appearance of peace, and directing its attack covsrtly against the Government. It is nor, my Lords, the secret growth of the seeds of mischief hidden from th-' eye of day, but threatening the most serious consequences, which it is required to provide against, in order to convince those who are s 3 acting that they are doing wrong ; but it is to a system of asso ciations framed under an organization, and directed to objects which threaten the peace and safety of the community, the unity and equanimity of the empire, and which must be repressed in the most lamentable consequences will ensue.—(Hear, hear, hear.) It is a system, my Lords, of violence, of armed bodies act ing apparently under a system of organisation, commit ting the most atrocious outrages, violating all the rights of property, inflicting the penalty of death for the double object of intimidation and vengeance, deterring prosecu tors from proceeding before courts of law, witnesses trona appearing, juries from doing their duty, and rendering tie law itself impotent for the protection and safety of the community.—(Hear, hear.) My Lords, these are the dangers against which we have this night to provide, and the cony quence of which it is tha' his Majesty's Government have felt themselves called upon, in the perormance of their duty—a powerful, but imperative duty, to propose to your Lordships, measures which I admit to be measures of a severe nature, incon sistent in the ordinary form and principles of the Consti tution, and which would be justified by nothing hut the necessity of the case, hut that necessity existing, they are measures which his Majesty's Government would have been guilty of a direliction of their duty if they had not pro posed to your Lordships for acceptation. My Lords, it is perhaps not necessary to inquire front what sources these disorders have sprung. As far as they can be traced to any real or just cause, I am sure that your Lordship wi I concur with me in thinking that it will be ' of our first duties to provide against them. But. my Lords, at th sante time that tne Legislature and the Government show a disposition to correct GZ.-- ,___P • ~, --, c,, n N 1)0 N. FRIDAY !W t. : I . '"t . t3ll HY 15, 1833. elm-es, and to obviate causes of compleint, they wi I no desist, notwithstairding tie tires nt unfortunat e situation of affairs, to the accomplishment of— that they feel it necessary that the authority of the law should h e restored that peace and or d er s h ou ld h e r e -est e hli s h e , an d that we, shone . ' be enabled to place erwiety. in that state of eerurite which is necessary for the accomplishment of such chi-cry. My Lords, I aria unwilling to detain yorr with these detail., known, as all the ctreurosranees must be, to your Lord ships, but it was necessary for me to state them to a ctn. tain decree, in order to lay the foundation of those trea sures which I am about to propose. My Lords; not. withstanding all the powers of the Goeirnment, the ordinary execution of the laws, on account of circum stances which I need not detail to your Leer% ships, have been hitherto found quite inadequate to the protection of the community from these excesses, which are now so lamentably prevalent. My Untie, I have slightly alluded to the extent of the dis turbances now prevailing —an extent which ren d-rs absolueely insecure the peace the rf individuals and property - . Need I call upon your Lord ships' attention, in the first place, to this nosily -esta blished association in Ireland. When I- - 7 - may the newly-eetablished, prtnips I use improper language, because, under a new name, it is to be con. shirred only as the revival of an association which before existed. 1 allude to that new association known and entitled by the name of the Volunteers of Ireland. My Lords, the object of this association, formed under the pretence of the redress. of grievances, is avow edly the Repeal of the Legislative Union.—(Hear, hear.) It has been said that al! the disturbances which have arisen, have arisen from a mere sense of injury, and that reparation of injury if alone will be sufficient to restore tranquillity to Ireland. Would to Gad, my Lords, that 1 could lay that flattering unction to my soul, that any hope arising from p ass experience, or from the present aspect of affairs, would allow me to indulge in the hope that, by an address of grievance alone, the peace of Ireland could be established. My Lords, we all remem ber the Catholic Question.—(Hear). Nobody was more was more sanguine than I was in my hope that that great, that necessary, that Parliamentary and fundamental mea sure would have produced peace and contentment through out Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) My Lords, I say it— thr truth ohliges me to say it—but I say it with regret and pain, that hope has been grievously disappointed. Nobody indulged in it more fervently than [(lid. Nobody ever felt at the same time more strongly than I did, and I express that feeling in every dehate upon the subject, that through this was the necessat y, the primary, and fundamental measure, still, that that alone would be found insufficient; and that it cannot be followed by other measures of an alleviating and effectual nature to repair the injuries of centuries.—(Hear, hear.) But I did hope that that fundamental measure having been once passed with this earnest of the Legislature and the Government to attend to the just wants and complaints of Ireland, it would have enabled us to have proceeded to our improvements undis turbed by popular violence. It was true that Ca tholic emancipation was too lung delayed.—(Great cheer ing.) It is as true that we looked forward to the com pletion of the measures of those who professed from the beginning to redress grievances, and it was hoped that that would have satisfied them for the present, as an earnest for still further relief. I did hope that Ttiose measures of further relief would have been waited for, but I have been greatly mistaken. Almost from the moment that tire great measure of emancipation was accom plished, the agitation was renewed, and the situation of Ireland became, and is at this instant, perhaps, in' a worse situation than at almost any foamer period. Do, I say, this, because I feel that the course we then pursued was wrong? Certainly not; for I am cenvinced that that course was one of justice and policy, and that the measure was both expedient and salutary. I have always been of that opinion, and also flirt there was a sincere dispesition to follow it up by other measures for the pa cification of Ireland. From that time various measures of improvement have been propos , d, some have been (tallied, others are under consideration, and more have been aunounced as in a state of preparation. All, however, has not been sufficieet to satisfy those who expect that the pacification of Ireland is to be eff-cted by agitation.— Accordingly, this Society of Volunteers has been formed, and we are told tth,t agitation will be continued, not until Pm - Lament has undertaken measures of redress, not until it h,:s employed itself to cure the evils arising from th e church seas, from the resentment to Grand Juries, fro m the local administration of justice, from circumstanc es c t o o n n ne w c a e s d no w t ittoh thcease e C w h h u e r n eh all E t s h ta t b se lis o l l 7; i 7 no, ag ita rsc were ac compli,hed, but when a rep-al of the Legislative Union ha. been granted,—(Hear, hear.) In other words, when the two c nutria are placed in hostile a -, •tu lest wards ach other, and tie fainaation of tile British cunstitu- mired power has been completely overturned. Till then, '0 use the words of threes-ening emphasis of the great r of the question of repeal, ,rgitaiion, agitation, ag tetion.—(Cheers ) It is iu vain, tlp.ri, to sv, it for th ff•ct of healing end reeneiriable Ineasures.—(H •ar, hear.) We must re-tore the earth. rity or the land.— (:iear.) Look, tiny Lords at the principles and m e aniesign of this se e nn y . I , is a society frareed ripen the pattern Velunee rs of 1782. Aly Lads. t name, tee period, the cireun st-ince of that ant) iat , on, which ansturied as the model of the premien , -utEeierylv showed the designs of those who have insti 'wed it. Look to the very term Vo unteer. What does it m 'an in she ord nary acceptation of the word ?__A person, who of hts on free will, who em:a n es In the performance of something like a military duty. This organisation is to be extended over the whole eoun • try. A central asso: iation is to he established in Dublin, from which pacificators are to be sent into every corner of Ireland, three being established in each perish, Tire object of these pacificators is to enlist and ern of tie farmers, te- tion ? This will form one of the first objects o' the bill whicla I shall hlve to propose. But it is not n y aglinst these volotite•-r associations that we shall hay. , 0 provide, the ohjogzs of whieli are cert :inly most mischie vous, for iu many parrs of Ireland thrre is a state of things at this moment little short of actual rehelli:)s. (LEFT SPEAW/NO.) KING'S BENCH. CORPORATION OF LIVERPOOL versus BOLTON an, OTHERS. Continued from our First Edition. (Mr. T. Corrie's cross-ex imination continued.) The Common Council appointed the auditor of witnea.' accounts. The 4/. that was retained was a charge upon osailder roots. Such roots came in small bales from time Mediterranean. Mr. Bolton had himself, from time to time, admitted that he was the exporter and importer of the goods in question, but refused to pay the tolls, for doe purpose o f t r yina the question. Did not know in which Dock any of the goods Were land e d. Wit ness h a d b een in the Common Council of Liverpool since 1811. The Cor poration had been at great expense in huiloing churches, of all of which the presentation was in the Corporation, the sittings of which they let, supporting all the establishments. By Sir .1. SCARLETT—Had hail complaints on the heavy dues demanded on the importation of IMumgeet. Mr. Bolton had always paid the duty up to 1830. Fire bricks had been imported and exported to and from Li verpool, but witness did not know the difference between their value and common bricks. By a Juror—Canes paid a duty of 2d. a thousand, should also charge the same upon bamboos. Joseph' Molesdale examined by Mr. POLLOCK....-Wpl principal coast officer of Runcorn. Remembered the late Mr. Knyvett, the receiver of the dock and town's dues fie Liverpool at Runcorn. Had been frequently with him when he had calculated the town's dues, and received them. A person named Jones was the present receive:. Witness did not know whether Mr. Bolton hisd had any goods landed at Runcorn, as it was not his business to inquire the name of the owner of the goods. Mr. Foster, examined by Sir JAMES SCARLETT—Since the death of Mr. Statham had been appointed town clerk. There was a Court of Passage in Liverpool, of which the Judge was the Mayor; all sort of causes were tried there. Witness had acted as coroner for the borough, and had sat on bodies taken up on the Cheshire side of the river. Had never summoned Juries from Runcorn ; they were always summoned from the borough. The writs in the Court 01 Passage were executed all over the waters of the Mersey, Warrington, and Frodsham Bridge, and the Red-house. Had known persons frequently arrested on the river, and had himself arrested persons at the extremity of the liver who were running away. By Mr. Sergeant WILDE—Had other chatters than those which had been produced. This dosed time case for the plaintiff. Mr. Sergeant Mane then rose to address the Jury on behalf of the defendants, previous, however, to which the Learned Counsel submitted to the Learned Judge, whe ther the evidence which had been produced by the plaintiff was sufficient to maintain the cause in Court, the deeds which had been put in clearly not tracing the property into the possession of the Corporation of Liverpool. The LORD CHIEF JUSTICE said that he would take a note of the Learned Sergeant's objection. But in his charge to the Jury he should tell them that if there was a right to tolls, that right was in the Corporation. Mr. Sergeant WILDS then proceeded to address the Jury. The Court and Jury had been occupied a day and a half with the case of the plaintiffs, without a single allu sion having been made to any point that was material to the defendant. He believed that the defendant had a per. feet good answer to the case. The Corporation of Liverpool received no less than 50,0001. a year, through the medium of those tolls, and they did not spend Is. to afford conveni ences for the very parties upon whom the tolls were levied, It was true that they had improved the town, but three parts of it were their own ; it was true they had built new churches, but it was equally true that they appointed their own sons to be Alinisters of those churches. It was true that they had widened the streets, but who ever heard of that being necessary for the improvement of a port? Now, with respect to the grants upon which the wholesrase rested, he (the Learned Counsel) denied it to he iu the power of the King to grant tolls, unless such grant would confer a benefit on his subjects. The present toll was clearly nothing else but a toll thorough, which could endure only as long as a benefit existed. i .. e .The pri vate Acts of Parliament which had been put in were no more evidence of the plaintiff's title than if they had been blank paper. In the reign of Anne, the harbour of Liver p of not being' sufficient to arcortunodate the trade, the Corporation did not enlarge the harbour themselves, but applied to Parliament, with whom they made a birgain, that a certain portion of time public money should be ex pended in the erection of a dock, they giving security for the amu unt tin their tolls. Were the Corporation of Liver. pool, therefore, woo would not give time public that aceotn• modation they wanted, but wfich was given at the public expense, now to reap the benefits of time outlay of public money ? The thing was in itself monstrous. His Lea: nrd Friend had said that if the present tolls, were put a stop to, time improvement of Liv rpool would he at an end. If it was proper that Liverpool should he improved at the expense of time public, he should say, let it be don, by Act of Parlirment, but don't improve it by taxing the pur.lie in the manner they had been taxed at Li verpool. He, the Learned Counsel, thoug .t that 50,000/. a year was rattler too good pay for doing nothing. Ile nev e r saw a toll so cunninely exacted as time present, nms sooner did a ship ent•r the port of Liverpool, than instantly a man with a large brass plate of office appeared to demand the Gills, and such was the colour given to the transaction that peopie were off their guard, or if not, they were afraid to try time question with a wealthy Corporation ; he should tie very sorry to recommend any gentleman to assert that the costs of time present coolest would not exceed 15,000/. People, therefore, were obliged either to submit to he ruined by this heavy tax, or by a law-suit, if they re fused to pay them. It was said that Mr. Bolton had paid the du- sup to 1830, th at was true, and so he probably would up to the present hour, had he net heard that a neighbour was carrying on his trade without paying a single toe, and all because the Corporation had chosen to make biro a freeman. The Learned Counsel then con tended that the grants referred to g ave no such toll as that which was now demanded by the Corporation of Liverpool. He had endeavoured to get from Some "1 die witnesses some information about the Corporation, but it appeared they bad left their memories behind them ; and to ask them about the docks or Corporation, was to them like an at• tack of the eholeta.—(Laughter.) One gentleman could not recedlect that upon a parcel of munjeet, which paid 81. in town's dues, only 4s. 6,1. of dock dues had been charged. What would the Jury think of such an enor mous charge as 8/. upon an article, the whole business 'elating to which had been done by the Duck Company for 4s. fid. The Learned Counsel said he would next ad vert to the Acts of Parliament. He would assume for the present that the toll was well founded, and then, be con tended, that if he c,end show that the consideration for the toll had been withdrawn, the toll was no longer payable. The Act of Anne recited, that, whereas great danger and loss of life and prOperty had accrued to ships and crews going to Liverpool, from the want of convenience, and the want of buoys and landmarks, and it provided, that, consideration of a certain toll upon the tonnage of shipping, the Corporation might erect a wet dock. The very recital of that act allowed that there was not sufficient accommodatien for shipping, and therefore there was the, no consideration fur the dues now claimed. The dock made in accotdanc e with that statute was now filled up, and the land used for building purposes. There was an end, therefore, to the consideration for the toll. There were several other dock acts, and it appeared that all the foreign shipping trade was dOne in the docks at Liverpool, fur the shore was so shelving that it was impossibl e to land goods in any other part. By one of the Acts, time Corporation were to appoint trusters, who were to make by-laws, and manage the docks. There was then the whole business transacted by the dock's trustees, and the Corporation had nothing to do with Use shipping. Tbr whole management had passed away froen the niqur, bailiffs, and burgesses, as a Corporation, and was vested in the trustees of the docks.. The considera tioa, therefore, for these tolls, as regarged the Corpora. tion, was withdrawn, and there being no consideration parr, they, had no right t o see k t o en f orce t h e The Lea rne d C ounsel lasving proceeded at very concsuded b e ca lli ng on the Jury to discoun tenance present cl a i ms , an d to set t h e quest i on at rot g(b o iy n rue::fi t l i .n m e dl verdict for the defendants. rants, and laly•ttring, p•tpul ,tion in this great associat;on, which, when c mp!: t in all its branches, is to be under the guidance and direction of the central assoct .lion in Dublin. They are to meet simultaneously with the quarter sessions, and are to snot r.ede the necessity of a police force. WI ea the organ I :too of t una - al and numerical a rengtb is c tmpleted it will be sup:rior to the tiovernment, and is to prove its success by the establish- ment of a Nitional Guard, upon the plan of that in a n .iL;hboui ing country. Tiris association differs from any which ever before existed. It is not bound togethrr by oaths, nor are its discu-sions and objects s cret ; but, nevertheless, are both ruch as would tre he pursued by sect et ti,sociations. It has however been so framed by a person, ingenious in the law, as to lite,. just wituout the reach of its penalties, lint at the same time to be ready for the most desperate purposes. Is it necessary to state to your Lordships that this is a power which cannot be suffered to exist, and much less to extend itself without the abandonment of all those securities in which the safety and power of • tre Government rest. This, however, it is said, is an Association intended only to pacificate and regenerate lieland. I have stated its organization, its principles, thsigns, an:l ultimate end ; but, my Lords, it de pends at any time upon the mere breath of man, even now to bring this immense osgaration into lime• (bite action. When the plan of the Volunteer Association was brought forward, it was proposed that Mr. Steele should go into the country as the chief pacificator.— (Hear, hear,) He professed himself most instrumental in the pacification of his country, as a Member, sent forth in his character of pacificator to prevent the working of Irish degeneration. That person said that no man cm be pacificator unless he was !tt the same time a tierce popular agitator—(Hear, hear, and laughter)—and had every measure of confidence in D an i e l O'Connell. In the double character of agitator and divine pacificator there is something naturally characteristic.—(Laughter.) I , is very much like a man going into a fair, and after dealing hi s bl ows r i g h t and left, crying out peece and pence and good wail to all.—(Hear, hear, and Laughter.) This is the sort of peace which these things are likely to produce. Ile ttlls the voludtters, as he told the people of Clare, that if such a crisis shall arise in Iceland as that of 1798, I) ,niel O'Connell requests them to have recourse to arms, and have recourse to blood, if necessary. And he further states, t bat he will not order any men to go in o any othcr p rsons wood to cut down trees, but that lie will send them to cut down trees in his on 0 domains.—(Hear., hear.)Though it is said thatthere is contemplating the period when these volunteers may he aimed—when the Association may be regularly armed, vet that they are not to be so till the law allowed him, we highly promot e d by th e i r l ea d e ., d ec l ar i ng , onas(nsig,nal from hi m , t h ev w id h e rea d y to assume seet , ht r u'ia per) s. Is it necessary, my Lords, to urge any thing more to show the absolute necessity to frame laws which shall enable the Government to put down this A4ocia- 0 ~c-Z,ev)--& ( PRICE 7D.) IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, FEIISUJItr 14, Mr. BARRON moved for certain returns relative to the magistracy of Ireland, and the numbsr of commitment, in Mayo, Waterford, and another county.—Ordered. Mr. SLANEY said that he had brought the subject before the House consecutively for four or five years, and it lmd every year increased in urgency and import.nce. He thought it essential that something should be dine in the ma►ter, without the loss of a single Mr. EWART considered the objection, founded upon the magisterial tribunal, before which the caves were to he tried, was another circumstance proving the necessity that new tribunals should be establisher:, which com bined celerity with propriety in the administration of ustice. Mr. WIGNEY presented a petition from Brighton f r the better observance of the Sabbath. Mr. OLIPHANT presented a petition from the minis ters and members of the United Associate Congregations of Perth, for the abolition of slavery. Mr. KENNEDY gave notice that he would on that day week move for a Select Committee to take into onsi deration the existing law of entail in Scotland. CASE OF MR. PEASE. Mr. WYNN rose to call the attention of the House to the report of the Committee which had been appointed to examine the precedents on the subject of tie admission of a Quaker's affirmation in lieu of his oath. He found it necessary in so doing to bespeak the particular indulgence of that House.—(Hear, hear.) He considered the present to he a pot'ely judicial question, and he would especially discourage any discussion of any general or abstract prin ciples, either of the expediency or inexpediency of imposing oaths, or of Members taking them. The House was sitting in the present instance, not in its legislative, hut judicial capacity. They were not to consider what the law ought to be, or what it most advantageously might be, but what it actually was. He trusted, at the same time, it would not be necessary for him to enter into ' aoy very leng , hened detail. The Committee, however, thought it necessary to lay before the House every Act on which it was possible for any gentleman taking a different view of the subject to build an argument. It appeared to him, however, that the question I.y within a very narrow compass, and that it rested merely on the construction of the 22d Geo. 11., which would he found at the bottom of the twelfth page of the repot t. It appeared to him that there really was no serious di.- tinction to be taken between the words of allegiance usu sly submitted to his Majesty's subjects and to Quakers. It appeared to him that the words of the Statute were so strong that had he been sitting in the case of Mr. Archibald, he would have decided differently from them.—(Hear, hear.) Whatever distinction might be made, he thought it highly expedient that the question should now be set at rest. Should the person now asking to take his seat in the House be permitted to do so, on being balloted to form a Member of any Committee, the House would have the opportunity of imposing the same oath upon him that they imposed upon other Mem bers, substituting the words "I do solemnly affirm," for "I do swear." The two Houses of Parliament were UU- doubtedly superior to all Courts of Justice, and their power,. could not be limited by implication—there must be express Acts of Parliament to limit them. The House of Lords was the first Court of Justice, when sitting on appeals, in the country ; and how was a Quaker examined at the bar of that House when they desired to have information from him respecting the passing of a Bill ? Why, in it• legislative capacity it examined a Quaker upon his solemn affirmation. Indeed this very individual had himself been frequently examined at the bar of the House of Lortis upon his affirn3ation.—(Hear, hear, hear.) Upon the same principle, Sir, it appears to me that it is clearly our blunden duty to admit Mr. Pease upon his making his solemn declaration at the table instead of taking the oaths.—( Hear, hear.) .If any doubt was entertained on the subject, he should urge the propriety of passing an explanatory law. But he thought no suf ficient grounds existed for entertaining any doubt what ever. The Right Hon. Gentleman concluded by moving that, " It appears to this House, that J. Pease, Esq., is entitled to take his seat upon making his solemn affirmation of the oaths taken at the table." The SOLICITOR-GENERAL rose to second the motion. From the ♦ery moment that it first bee t ine his duty to consider this question, he entertained no doubt upon the subject, and it had been his firm convic- tin that Mr. Pease was entitled to take his seat upon miking his solemn affirmation. Until the statute of the sth Elizabeth, oaths were entirely unknown, and till that statute was passed the imposition of them was against the common law. Until the statute of William 111., in consequence of a previous Act, Quakers could not sit in that House. If the present was a question of Parli.ment-iry privilege, the decisions of Courts of Law would have no weight upon the subject; but as it was a question strictly upon the construction of Acts of Parliament, the decisions or C urts of Law were most vrluairle. Now in a cas. in the reign of William 111., b. fore Lord Chier Justice Holt, it was decided that the Acts of the 7th and Bth of that King were not confined to criminal oaths, and it was then decided that the affirmation o! a Quaker was equally as available as his oath. The Hon. G •ntleman then cited several exceptions, but lie said this was not one of them, therefore the affirmation of this Quaker ought to be taken. They had had two de c.,..iorrm at common law, and those had decided that the qu-stion was a perfectly clear one.—(Hear.) The 221 uf George 11. removed all doubt, for by it it was established, that where an oath ought to be taken, the affirmation of a Quaker should have effect. That House was in a sense a Court of Justice at that ime, and all that it had to do was, to say what the in tention of the Lezislature Was when it- passed that Act. I.9oking at it under all the circumstan..!es, he could only come to the opinion that it contemplated that House as well as the other Courts of Justice. (Hear, hear.) Under those circumstances, he hoped that the House would come to an unanimous opinima that the affirmation of the Hon. Gentleman ought to be taken.— (Hear, hear.) He hoped that Mr. Pease would, withow any dissentient, be allowed to take his seat with the unani mous voice of the House, so that it would not have the discredit of keeping out one of the most humane bodies of men in the country. The SPEAKER then put 'bo gu , ' , .tinn that Josepl De allowed to make Lis affirmation at the table in idaee of the usual oaths. The qu,stion being put, the Ayes were overpowering, and not a single voice cried No, which decision was re ceived with loud cries of " Hear, hear." A petition was presented against the return of Arthur Hill for the borough of Newry. CORPORATIONS REGULATION RILL. Lord ALTHORP, before making his motion for a Committee to inquire into the corporations of England, wished to explain why he desired that his other motion, which stood for to-night, should be postponed.— (Hear.) From the inquiries he bad made, be found that some alterations were desirable, and he thought that it would he more convenient for the House that it should be adjourned till he was ready to bring forward the motion in a more perfect sh ,pc. In many corporate towns such was the effect of those corporations, that, instead of being for the benefit of the whole community, they were a source of quarrels and ilia. putes which extended so far, that in cased of confusion and riot, the corporations could not obtain assistant,• in restoring peace.—(Loud cries of " Hear, heir.") It was, therefore, highly desirable that an inquiry should be made, whether there could not be an alteration in the constitution of those corporations, in order tlia' they may be made more popular, and more beneficial t , the communities to which they belonged. His Majesty',. Government had intended to bring forward a Bill upon the subject on their own respoosibility ; but, looking at the great variety of interests and at the ,imount of property which belonged to corporations, Ministers found that i was impossible, without inquiry, to devise and pro!ere measure that would be Natis c!ozy. They then fore had determined that the best course to pursue would be to submit the subje tto a Committee of the House. He w afraid that it would impose on the Committee a v.-ry laborious—a te•iious and a lengthened duty; but, in addition to the ben:fits which such an inquiry would give, . - whatever measure emauated from it woo ti not only be mere desirat.le and more satisf:ctory, but would come with greater weight. He did not expect uny 'apposition to his motion—indeed, be was petty confident tbut inging it forward he ,hould meet the gtneral con , -- . 7 , • , , ~,. - ,.-,L 1- wtt• - -,.., ,1 1! • . `,-, , • ' , • ' ~, ' •-:0 - t;tair t -...': •--- - ,1 - ~,........ .. ..•,,, \5 , , a ,‘ , ., ; , ,, , ,,,1;•,.. , - , ( c • .... 41 .• •14.7.,„.. . •:• - (07, ~, , , .--lkov ~,, c.• . . ~;,,. - \,,.., ~_ , . . -. , ..v. ' ~ ,,, , z, . ;, , ,,,,- '9•• , • ' -s , itu.- - --, - - - - - -1:04 ' J., ' ‘ • —AA - -5-- '.,.‘ ' ' N•••• kl:-.7. - • ~,.. ~, /- '. • s to., r..! , -- -' 4. .-..-. • ' ~ - \ vt , -. '''./.' ' .?/ ',•- s 4 r, `..-,. - 4, .:0 ~, ,, .., 44 , ~ •,,,,.- ~ ~,_•, - ,:,,.-! i 1 : 2. , -4 , _) - t,i ,ll „ -,, • z,..,..." . r,„ n , 4 : 11 , -,,,t(_, 2 , 0 , t 0 -____-t.:l' ',:__•.o-, ~~r~ sat dr "UM s ,o • t , the potent 4%c:cation.; There was one thine, kin :Viotti which be thouebt there was some dif f iculty, and that was as to the appoint ment of a Committee; for many gentlemen were in 5 ,, me way or other connected with, and felt great inter eat in, some one or more carp rations.—(Hear. hear.) He intended to propose a larger Committee than usual. It was necessary he should do so, because, as the Committee was to take into consideration nut only the state of the Cor porations in England and Wales, but al4o 'in Ireland, it was requisite that a certain number of Menibvrs from Ireland should also be on the Committee. He would state the grounds on which he thought the inquiry isto the stst• of the corporation s o f I re l an d s h ou ld b e i nc l u d e d . I n t h e first pl ace , i t was very deelra‘de that the instil riens in th e t wo countr i e- should he ersiaiilnted as mtrh as possible. —(Loud ch eers .) A s a genera l ru l e , wilate!st' was prop er an d r i g h t f or a corporate body in Engla ot er d would b e equa ll y so fur a corporate body in Ireland. There was a l so another practical reason that inda •ed biro to unite the inquiry into the state of the Corpora tions in the two countries in one. If the C romitteo. with respect to the Irish Corporations, should Cettist simply of gentlemen from Ireland, it was probable that the eager feeling which prevailed upon political points might render their deei.ion ore which would not be quite so satiefactory as the dei•is . on er a Committee formed of the Members of the United Kingdom. His Lordship then moved that a Se lect Committee be appointed to inquire into the state of the municipal corporations in England, Woke, and Ireland, and to report whether any and what ateu.es existed in them, and what measure was necessary to he adopted for the correction of those abus:s. The Nobl e Le n l f ur th er state d t h at t h e L or d Advocate of Scotland had a Bill in preparation for the correction .of abuses in the corporations of Scotland. Mr. WALLACE said that he regretted the motion of the Noble Lord did not include Scotland, where assuredly corporation reforms were as much wanted as in England or Ireland. He did not see why Scotland should be treated in a different manner from those countries, and he was sure that he not only spoke the sentiments of the great sea-port he represented. but of the whole of Scotland, when he said that the municipal institutions of Scotland contained greater abuses than those of England and Ireland united. Among other offices which the Government might beneficially inquire into, was that of the Lord Advocate himsel'. He thouoht they would learn, upon inquiry, that his was au office utterly inconsistent with the times. If the Government did not attend to the representation he now humbly made to it, he should hereafter move an amendment to include Scotland in the inquiry proposed by the Noble Lord. An Hoat. MEMBER—You can now. Mr. WALLACE—If that he the case, I beg to move that he words " England and Waite be omitted, and " Great Britain" he subatituteft. Mr. HI/ME seconded the motion, and thought it would be satisfactory that the Lsrd Advocate, as he was now in his pace, should explain why he had omitted Scotland, and his Huu. Friend could th-n, if j;e liked, withdraw his motion, and give notic of it on a future day. The amendment having been put, The LORD ADVOCATE raid that he regretted an accident had prevented him from being present when th e Hon. Member opposite had made his proposition. He was quite mistaken if be supposed that Scotland %eta not included in the motion which hard just been made, because it was considered that Corporation Reform was not required in Scotland. On the contrary, he believed it to be most eminently required--(Hear, hear, hear)-- but the reason of Scotland not being included in this motion tyro, that the Government was prepared with a Bill to amend the corporations of Scotland in a more direct arid simple manner than was proposed with res vet to those of Ireland and England, with respect to which, perhaps, the tiresome, but indispensable inquiry of a Corr. mittee must b e gone to . Th e reason why a Committee wr not necessary w ith respect to the corporations of Scotland was, that for forty years past their condition had been under discussion. Lord Archibald Hamilton bad moved inquiries upon the subject year after year, and a great va riety of publications had come into the hands of the public, in consequence of the information his Committees bad elicited. The materials of reform in the corporations of Scotland were therefore mature, and rendered unnecessary the delay which must take place, if information had to he gathered by means of a Conamittee.—(Hear, bear.) But there was another reason why Scotland ahould.be treated separately by a Bill. No three or four of the cor porations in England laboured under the same grievance. In the different corporations in England different abuses prevailed, for the ratification of which no one measure would he sufficient. But in Scotland the case otherwise. By the arbitrary statute of 1649, its cor pr.ratione, which had formerly been liberal, were by the single, unequivocal, and baneful influence of that Act converted into rotten corporations ; and the no mination of the magistrates and counsellors was, by that one fell sweep, declared to be no longer fit to be intrusted to " simple men"—(A loud laugh)—and it was enacted that in rime to come the existing magistrates should nominate their slue,. censors. All that was to be done with respect to Scot. land was to abrogate that Act, and provide at once a popu lar constituency. Now that remedy had been prepared which, he hoped, from its simplicity, would he embraced in a mingle direct and satisfactory enactment England, however, from the varieties of abuses, from the diversified forms olcorrup tion that existed within them ; required more minute and diversified inquiries, and the application of a more complex remedy. There was no necessity for inquiry into the state of the Scotch boroughs, and he bud given notice already of his intention, on the 12th of March, to move for leave to introduce a Bill to establish the undeniali , ,s And flagrant evils, and to provide what, in form and substance, would be to take away the corruption of the self-election system. Mr. HUME, after the explanations of the Learnej Lard, recommended the Hun. Member for Greenock to wit;:. draw hig mewl/writ, Mr. WALLACE then withdrew bit amendment. Sir R. VYVYAN said it had been truly stated in hit Majesty's speech from the throne that sutjects of great importance would he brought forward this Se , sioct, but no statements had been made with respect to municipal corpo rations. He felt surprised at the course adopted by Ministers, as be did not think it either fair or just that Members of that House, the majority of whom had oxpressed themselves averse to corporations, shou•di cortxti tor a Committee to inquire into :he sti.jeet. He offered no arguments either for or a, ainai the measur e. He did not stand there as an advocate for corporations, Lut he would say that, in his opini.:n, a mote unfit tribunal to look into that great question could not he found.—(Laughter, and cries of •' Oh.") Sir M. W. RIDLEY observed, that his Hon. Friend, althaogh he decried the formation of a Committee to inquire into corporations by Members of that h a d not stated any means by which inquiries coulo made into the subject. He thought the observations of his Hon. Friend rather hard, and a little unfair, especially at a time when he had not learned what slemhers would I,rtn that Committee. —( Hear.) Connected as he was with . .. a large corporation, he could nut avoid expressing on their part his entire concurrence wi►h the inea.ures GL his Majesty's Minister*, and their entire readiness rt: meet any Inquiry into the state of the cnanaJement 01 their env❑ corporations. He was quite aware thit kre.lt distinctions existed in many part+ Of the counriy, as to the management of corporations, but the corpora tion 0! Newcasth- courted rather than shunned inquoy into their management. Mr. O'CONNELL could not but express the great plea. sure he felt that the Mt-inhere for Scotland expies.ed their satisfietion at the determination of the Nob:e Lord to correct sbuses in Scotland, and at the appo'ntment of a Committee to ir,quire into the subject.--(Lowi cheers.) lie felt it also to be his duty to orate the very great gratification he felt that the N Ade Lord should have included the corporations of Ireland also, feeling confident that the inquiry to be set c.n foot, would not be a mock one, but formed with the deermination to correct abuses. Let him, however, not be eg►iu mistaken, or his feelings misrepresented, as it was by tNe Hon. Btronet opposite, the Member for Westminster, who con :ended, indeed, that because he approved of the principle on which Church Reform had been, as far at it went, conducted—because he was grateful for the boon conferred in removing the burden of the Vestry Acts, that he should tie content to suffer Ministers to proceed in unconstitus. rional measures. But, to return to the corporations : he did not know a more serious grievance in L el sod than the existence of the corporations in their present state. Th. ~ov e of having these evils abated would give the greaten: taisfaction to Leland. Toe post which announced it would do more towards tranquillizinz Ireland than the ar rival of twenty reeirnenta. The monopoly of the few in corporations had been the ruin of the many. The Ptes condition of the Irish corporations was a monument of the •nizratitude of the English Government to its Irish sub j,cts. Catholics there were exclu• ed front the corpora_ ions, under the same pretence NS in Sc alaod—namely, to ,revert tumults. The Stuarts made an alteraziou which t once took away all poptil.relec , ion: float the fhe two great w hilities tor a iortn>.er of this Committee ,: e ti Jul acquainted Ir eg. beiminptead7tiwaliitrh the abused y, a 1 uta u t sto itsp i nt he uni 4 The c orearativo of Cork 1144 tin ditikrusAl oi 70,0001, a year.