The Sun. — London, England, 1830-12-17 00:00:00

`► the borough were diefrancitieed. The que-tion was, tete:titer the House had evidence before it sufficient to prevent the issuing of time writ—(liver, hear,) — k • • i tl Whether they should call upon the penple who el e 0 been etirrterpt at tins last* election to send two other feed:ere to that House? That was the single question leafiee tee floosie, and the oirjections urged to it wet e three feta., yew., there eves the objection of the Pon. Nlein- Is 'eh,/ SPA ndshire, that to euepend the lawman!' tin writ tepid!! I,,t , :at a tenalenevto interfere with the provisions of the Grenville Act, -slimittiutle the punver of E!ection Gommittese. Alt at erguntent had uo fattneation. The Feection Commituee had thi.fly to decide between the silting Member , ' arid the notalidates ; and at far as they were concerned, the el of the Cenunittee was find. If the liouee were to inteetere with the ettspension of the writ, that term's' not he dealing with the &vision of the Eleetion Cninmitter. e The 'quilt of that Committee ' related to the sitting Netlike's, Lord Kennedy end Sir Charles Cockerel) ; hut the Committee had also made a special report, as the Noble Lord had Mated. The ordi nary report was, that Loral Kennedy and Sir Chitties Ceekerell were not duly elected. That was the ordinary, report on which their exclusion was founded. Awe:IAA to that, however, was another report, which . etated that Sir Charles Cockerel), or big agent, had been guilty of lathery, and that veveral of the elect-ere had suffered them " .eadees to he !Hilted. That was the sr chi' report. The Glenville Act dial mitt maktethe special report binding en the Hawse; but it said, that if the Committee appointed So determine the rights of sitting Met:there shalt imefftlet its Ch tirmett to make a gpvcial repair' to the Alotte, the iloutte may conform orelitagree (rein the resolution of the Committee, amid make retch n ()trier a' it liked, If the ILaria:itt adopted any ortlevor tehmeti to adopt it, contained hi Hoy special report, it would only he acting in enit toe Lathy w ith the egrineip:e laid down by the How ef tan trieurteeeentl, therefore, -he cow a idered the tibleetion of tluiHon.,)iemher of no ,fittee. "'The teeet argumetat was that irf. the Nasife'Lord, whit had referred to precedents ; tint mated, in thigh IH9 noted, that, these precedents, elanmigh generally foonded in reason, were net to ise 'slavishly followed. Ile would put it to the Noble Lord, if true precedents he should quote teetildeuii make the Noble • Lord adroit that the writ ought not, to ie'ue. Two prece• rteretta might be referred toe-those of Pentyhtt and Camel , !tine!, In the Penrylin cape, the epeeist' report steed that and. Mr. had been guilty of corrupt price tient, and Henry Parker anti eevegenher elegem hail retied „ w bribes. to induce them to gt e e e ine vmes. There teas no imputation of general corruption. There were two per emu 'accused, of ideertipting bribery, and seven AWES ac cused of receiving bribes;; eted it was thought by the House, of Commonteihet , it teas sufficient to suspend the wait that onlittight petvems had been guilty of bribery. In the ease of Evesham, though there was no epetial, ttport. it was stated that twerity e tt4 'persona received bribes. If in Pent hen lbw e evere only eight petanne bribed, end if, a'u it could not he dottitted.that twenty-twit were bribed in Illeeetoun, noglit the Ihnirte,etne to conclude that the iteuing of the writ ought to be enspended in the care of Evetthant an in the case of Petallyn ? The House elemid• tonsider that the motion, won net • to suspend time wt it indefinitely, but only till the evident% shook) be laid before the theme 1111 the rase of Cstnielloni, what was the special report ? Stewart hami acted in a corrupt remitter, and 'wen guilty of bribery, and was ineepable of sitting ; and that •--, attil Inerother elestear, had corruptly endeavoured to erotetre the return of that Member.. In this case there were only foot voters renew, anal yet the !rouse of Com mono had suspended the writ., There was no general allege. t' oh of corm ohne Here then were two preeedents ofeusperel. int; the issue of the writ---clear cases, end would not the House, therefore, suspend issuing the writ Ism Evesham, , ire wnten.tweratyetwo voters hail been guilty of corrupt practices, .and had emitted bribes, only till the House haul read ihreeVialenee ? The 4oble Lord must see that the precedents were not in his favour. If the Noble Lord would reject precedents, and try the case by the principles of to settee end triton, he would probably come to the 'temclueione that the Writ ought not to be issued,. Could there he any doubt on the subject? One Hon. Gentleman hetai'etated tliat'eoittption had been the ieveterzte prac tice, of the berasugh tor fifty vette. In his opinion, among the sesevoterit preetiee Was general. They had the 400, of an Ilsno :Vomiter, who bail ;dated, that belied retimptithed his connection . with etre barough be e o wee I.s , totild not .cetteientiomiely consent to the demands Vor (line tratale . on hing. • ° riut was in evidence before the . Mete ; and did not, then, good arose and reason say that the writ ought 'to 'be .sitepended ? Was it in fact possible to leteiteto under *itch circumstances? Thellon. Gentle ten 'Miler(' said, let the: llousetemsider : tlaat we have note Aihninietration pledged to Reform, mut . Itt it leave to that time task of -inquiring. Admitting -th at we have suoli un Atheiniettailon, , •Int meet deity that the Gevern meet was competent to inquire into all the peculiarities of resident anti ormtesoterse Wet it fit that the House should delegate to the Ministers the propriety of deciding the elective franchise tsf this borough, and of determining, to u at a phrase of the lion. Alemher, which itemell remarked. of the propriatroVextirting Abe berough itself? If it went se he 4 lone, let it be done by nil inquiry instituted at that , bar, mei not "wee by: a private inquiry instituted by hi. iAlajeany's Wild:gee. The Government was not fit to in• stitute cud, an hanuiry—it meld not reveler evidence, and het did not Ittlinir any ;den more likely to be productive au bajoetiet to the patties, than for time Government to under take the inquiry. On the ground, then, of the Grenville Aeteeetni the score' of preeetiente, and on the principles gmf geed rierise and ereutoreend justice, it would he wier to miler it euseseterion of the writ till the evidence wee letfore the, Houle. With , reference to the arse-fors zeal with which the lion. and Loewe! Gentleman taunted him, lie cow& ett te'lle was. nut olmoxinus to the Ilan. and Learned eateetleman's months. Tint lion. and Leerned,GentLe Ta.ition was not opposd by him—on the contrary, he sop; opted that motion, and net widest with touch t e le t videlicet than others, both itt the osiers of Penrhyti end. that of-East Itetford, that the writ aught not to issue, le Ined always! contended 'that the franchise wart given for •u imultitc ptirpooe, end !het the House hed , a right to divpose . ..of it wheat that would benefit the , public. fie bad Mittel tilt pert iu any former debate that rhombi preclude him on easy fit oettadon from etreotfertimig a franchiett from some eat:lgit borough to lilt mingluute In the Penrhyn case, itt. haul been trilling to trawler that franchise to Manch-s -4.1,4 Ile had Teetered, Jointed( at fell liberty to give the trentddet to great,tovens. die teat not, however, disposed to i;nter into tile . general question. He would only ask, whither it tteaulai be wive, after the allegation which had bend made h, the Meinbeis of the Committee, to entrust again the la sit chisel to a boreugis which Ind &biased it ?' litt slial es et ean oat the Houle: iu .decide that it should not be 4 ortatted,-.4,10 WR.Ip4 the spiteitien; but to decide that it'Woultewat give the trust till it heti seen the evidence. Lied A1.111004' .agreed with his Noble Friend and the theist Hem Gentleman, that this question was to be decided on the ovum ground of pr.omt ; but that pre vedettes were not to be ',lavishly. followed. The Iloitee most ,decide if preeedente authorised the suspension of the writ e and it was a matter of coins importenee that the House gammasl not make a new precedent without slue oonsider ntion. lie did not think that *haven:micas quoted by ult. fli g ht Hen. Gentleman justified the suspension of the lit. lie differed from bim, trews°, in, the two geese. eaeits he lead quoted, bolt the Committee' had reported ereettst the election, In threspreseet, cage, the Report of rim Committee was wintined to calamine elle Members. 1 . 110 )light floe. (iies)tistmos :said that Members of the Committee compleimted of tineentreption I. extended to , the ejectors but' that Was only the opinion olindividtud Members, are the Committee. tleeided ageing a special re. p os in the ether roes quested by the Bight lion. Oen. thrintte the cemetietee; had nettle special reports ; but in those cases where stewed reports were nee made, and Only tho,ttitting Men - liana were unseated, time. Manse had never thought to train.• e! the writ, .. It was - net rieettruity for him to quote pie (Talents ef the kite! from. Sikg 4010101 bl ; they %v .re an entnereue, tight cry Member rotiet know it was, curtti u u g il y cipltcyn;:oy for sittieg Members tor t lie un heeled by the,repor t of tile Committee, without te writ being etimpoteled. Ile (lid nest . rousidcr it, of any. coolie ' twelve! whether. the Writ were 8001PaPintl or net ; and if it Welt the nlt , , ititiu (dale lluit tliatit 11110tih) be euspendiel, he for one Amalfi teat, oppose the litileptU)Sipil. In doing 11th, cote tidy et wee he opiaiote that Ithey ; ate itea t imet paeceiiesset, mei it teas peither, desirable nor neees eery Alert 'the Hew , "korad totafee any new, preeed,ente tied olt vs! an y greet nent*4.loe ifiStkilig it, and, hv uwlicti OM pat lid , nut tow , tain t Any injury .Fooled accrue if it evete, withheld for a short time. If, therefete,, the ileuse were diepogrel to withhold the. writ, he should not oppose the mosoore, Au Hoe, Ajx,mugn i who was a ,Itlember. of ,the cametaittee, eeplaievi that the Committee hail agreed to make 14 i . Cpart tiirlilas tot tb t ,k4ada by the Ceammittee of ee lietfunel. fielerequeetty that deebriee yes trice!, ausai tt. (:'ene n itt e e w e re Neel)) , divided, wheit the ; Chatt „ meat eeve its seining trite sit (mien. Of iii erdinaty report. ;Iluete tower wet a speri,il report rerolved ott without its • - l','"4l"Va to itittito44oe t." 4 writ. 101)01 , 0 that due tee the evide!ipt, awl not *lndio') darn. I 1 , 1A stole. teterned It, a, plate which had been jee ilte alt tub fOrtol,4oo, %Yelp as einropt the eieeteal, mod ought to he prrniehed. He did not e liev e why the llott - hferether "bo t tle b e so r eo dy tp e we, bute improper motitel fit other ,Hote Menden 0010$6 it ~o w i kkft leet po 4 1, i,tobe.}10.1)ttu much diesppoioteel, " teiiustr e fi e Wee not tite bitting Member for 131riningtieni. He was fully as independent and as upright as the Ilon. Member, ay.ti had no motives of which he was ashamed for his conduct. It was said that there were oply tWenty:-two electors convicted of bribery out of 4ba ; of the reason was, that only tkenty-twb were brought forward. The object of tl u Who opposed the Members was only to ttristat them, anti they brought (onward no more evidence than MS necessary for that purpose. MI the cite:ter* who were brou-ght forward were convicted of bribery ; and if more were not convicted, it was because mere were not brought forward. That was sufficient to establish the e at, anti he should support, the Noble Lt u motion. Mr. TENNISON explained, that what he meant re specting the Hon. Gentlemen opposite was, that he sus pected that it wis their littentibn, which he could not approve, rot to trattst'er the franchise to a large town. Mr. .. 1 01.1 t .'; MARTIN said a few wor,is in favour, as ?ve Metelirood, of the staying of the writ, bee iese iSere could he no doubt that gross corruptiott bad 'um very gr. beral in the borough of Etreain. Lorti'MOllPEril, following the course which bin duty Prescribed to him, could not, with the most sanguine wishes for Reform, fee) himself warranted in voting for the proposition of the Noble Marquis (Chemins.) Ile had, in the course of the debate on the East Retford shown the view Inc took on questions of this iiature ; but. there was. this peculiar dilreitnee h. the regent case—that although the Cotrattitt!e had reported the Al mhos to be guilty . of Ittilery and corruption, they made no pima thkt the electors were also corrupt and unfit to exercise ) their rights. The report of the Committee did nut iltebl pate the berough, althot.;li it declatee. • the 'election void from bribery; and ilietvore thought that they were not, es in the vet RetfOril, called on to exercise that jut‘licift Part of their functions, which might have Ittieh called into exercise by a different species of report. The resolution of supersedeas which the House wits now called on_ to assert, was, as far as he could understand, pro• (limed by a division of iMNitiiiiiniong the Commhtee with rcapect to the report. The Committee, however, having reported As they ditl,l4ett absolved front the bee wiry of adopting i anPulteridMPasure; and be was the his dissa tisfied with that resolution, because the ereat iluestinn of geherel Refortit would so amen be determined either in that Pat liament or the next, which WbUld doubtless be immviii aiely called together if tre present refused its assent to the tneastiretrof ttiormation which would be proposed to it. —(bear, hear.) Fir these reasons, and because he felt that the cause of staying the writ was not warranted by Hoy precedent, or called for by any extraordinary ciretup stances, he should vote for the itnmediate issue of the writ. Mr. WARBURTON could see no advent ige they were likely to reetiee from suspending the issue of the writ, and h should certainly not vote against it. In a ease of much the soma kind—that of Stockbridge—he found opinions stated on the subject by a celebrated Mt miter of the House of that day, which en perfectly coincided with hit own, and were, withal, so perfectly applicable to the case, that he should take leave, as they were very short, to read tint nto the House. g. If," said that Hon. Mem.. her, " 1 twee the candidate pay ti e money down on that tab'e, en I the 4letems take it up, yet I would not vote fur e airf a o is merit of the boiongli : for I ask you, how you can take the franchise away front one or two phut., when you refine every proposition for a general Reform ?" And he adds, that it is better the abuse should become so owing that the House would be compelled to put •an end to it. This was the language held thirty years ago on this subject, awl he thought it still worthy of adoption as a principle. Mr. BANKES thought the opinions min-acid by the Hon. Member for Brideort so extraordinary, that they did nit require much observation on his part. He would merely say, that if generally adopted, they would go to the extension and eneettragement of every conceivable abuse in the system of representation.--(Hear.) In his opinion, the arguments relating to the course to be pur sued with respect to the borough of Evesham lay in a very narrow compass. They had been very happily Oared by the Right Hon. Baronet; cod his precedents of Camel.. fiwel and Penrhyn seemed to he so consonant with com mon sense, that he should pot venture to attempt to add any further reason fer his agreeing with the motion of the Noble Marquis for staying the issue of tke writ. Sir 0. WARRENDER was always happy to agree with the lion. Member for Dorsetshire (Mr. Minket); hut, as tin elector of the vet) , borough whose rights were now under disenesion—(fetughter, and hear, hear, hear,) —he felt himself called on to say a few words in its de fence—(Hear)--in defence of the 141 electors against whom no imputation was laid—and in defence of more than 100 of the out-voter', comprehending a vast propor tion of the respectable gentlemen in the neighbourhood, and in the county of Worcester, who, like himself, had taken no part in the late proceedings. Ile was a friend to Reform ; hut he considered the present case offered no precedent for the suspension of the issue of the writ ; be cause, as it had been already well observed by a Noble Lord, in all cotes where the report of the Committee on the petition declared that the Members were guilty of bribery, bet found no case to report on with respect to the borough, the writ immediately issued. In the present case it appeared that the Committee had not, on the mini nation of the evidence, felt thenwelvee werranted in de claring the corruption so g. neral as to induce them to re. commend the disfranchisement of the independent voters, in coneequence of the offences of a few; and be trusted that, under such circumstances, the House would not sanction the adoption of a dangerous precedent.—.-f Hear.) Mr. MARERLY did not intend to take any part in the debate ; but ut he was connected with the borough of Eveshom, tin ough oust of the candidates, be felt bound to ally that he would not have suggested that proceeding if he had been aware of there being any irregularity. Mr. G, 13ANKES declared 1,1% ileiermimition to vote for the proposition of the Noble lklarquil, and defended himself from any , imputation of Inconsistency, in cow.. quence Of his having acted differently in the 'Case of East Iletford, by contending that the Committee had not in that case gone as far as they Might have done, or shnuld have done. In every ease, however, if there was a briber, there must be a bribee, and it was therefore idle to argue on the difference between a report of the Committee, at trihuting bribery to' the Members, and not reporting cor ruption on the put of the electors. After a few 1 - volds won Mr. Twiss in favour of the int;don, The Marquis of CHANDO sitA, that Ware the House came to a decision on this question, he wished to ask the Hon. Member for Birchingley (Mr. Tennyson) on what grounds he considered his (Chandoe) conduct to suspicion?—(Hear.) --.The Ilcuie would do him th , justice to recollect that he had, on every 00CA• lion, endeavoured to preserve consistency in the mime of politics which his judgment induced hint to adopt; and he hail at all times laboured to preserve it free from the suspicion of insincerity. He thought he was also entitled to soma explanation from the Hon. Alember for Staffordshire (Mr. Littleton), with respect to the charge of a new-born zeal in the cause of Reform. He (Lord Chandos) had always advocated the course which, to his mind, seemed the best, and ha should be glad to know how long the Hon. Member bad himself exhibited a zeal for Refornt.—(llesr.) Mr. TENNYSON felt obliged to the Noble Lord for allowing him an opportunity to explain any expression which might have given bim cause of offence. He at all time+ entertained great respect for the Noble Lord's con. duet, both in the House and elsewhere ; and he could as sore the Noble Lord, that nothing was more foreign to his. wishes than to offer him any offence. What he add was, not the Noble Lord's conduct was suspicious, but that be suspected the objects of those who wished fur this delay, as being intended to administer the same remedy to the borough of Evesham as they bud already adopted with rt. gard to East Hetford, and to snake it another Bassetlaw. Mr. LITTLETON, it+ he also had been called on by the 'Noble Lord to explain the meaning of his expressions, hogged to observe that he did nut intend - to offend thefetl- ings of the Noble Lord, but he might be permitted to say, that during the eighteen years' be bed held a seat in that Houle, he had invariably assented to propositions fur He form, and had zealously supported.the motion of a Noble Lord (Lod J. Wiesen) for giving Members to Leeds, My- mingl;am, ctna filarichestet:: He had also expressed his willingm as to rapport the general motion of the Noble Lord ett the Wile subject, if the Noble Lord consented to make a slight alteration in his resolutions, and he re gre4fel that the Noble Lord 'was not present to confirm that statement. He could tell the Noble Mai-gals that his seal the cause of 'Worm was nut the birth yoterday. Lie . bad expressed his ourptise that the Noble Ahrquis's opinions differed so much. from those they had k►gard before on siniiler oeemions; and he again wive ut ulna; to his regrikt th.it it had given the Noble Aleninie any olfence. The motion tyaa then put and carried without opposi titm, linsl;,tite SPY/ I 'l , lllft ohk,crved that, in anticipator' of the dectaiuri of' the Howe, be -had. dratted Ihe - wtit,; to. be prtvold, and it, vow, vitet hit signature, which would he ap i ligtfted 44 itp,rom*, GENIWA t, JoiiN CAMPBELL, in rlaing pnrauant to his notice to rnov.e for leave to bring in a to establish a General Begister InrA bottas and Inatrurnenta affecting Real Property in gatgland and. Wale., Raid that the plan wee in conformity with the recommendation of the Law Commiasioeers. The itate of tide country, with respect to tie transfer of real property, bad long excited much surprise and complaint. In many eases estates were pur chased, which, at the death of the vender, were claimed by some heir in tail, and it wee frequently found that pro• perties sold by the app trent myner were, by the limbic tion of some long-hidden wrested from the pur chaser. All this might be avoided by an alive for general registry. Various expedients had been de vised at %whims times to remedy the existing evils, One of those expedients was the purchase fur long terms--for terms of eight hundred or a thousand year.. This, however, was a clumsy contriVanea: And, besides, not half the ntates in England had terms . attached to deem ; for it was only where mortgages had been effected that they were operative. They, besidis, gave oc casion to three or four titles being sometimes advanced t the same lard. There „ waseleriafitteAy in ascertain , ing what the terns ti t;: practice was likewisie at tended orth great expense. It was hoped that some of these mils might be corrected by the Ecclesiastical Com mission. He hail a great respect for that Commission, and he hoped soon to see among the results of their labours the establishment of one Court of Probate fur the whole kingdom; a measure that would be exceedingly advan tageous. lb was a great admirer of the wisdom of our ancestors f lint he than sure, that if our ancestors were alive, they would feel that different -cireumetanees re pined different measures. Because there were no regis s ter* when few prisons could read, was that a reas'on why then. should be no registers at ..pres'eht? So far beck, however, us the reirt of nenry VIII., the Statute of En rolment passed, which served as a register, although clumsily. Since that period registers bad been established fur judgments; registers for annuities; registers for ships, Was the House aware that in Scotland there had been a register for above two hundred years ? It was established in 1617, and bed been productive of the happiest effects. In the beeiening of the last century a register had been introduced inn') Ireland: There Was also a register in Middlesex, and another in at cbitnty of York; comprehending a fifth of the Opolation if the island. There nimre reenters in Germany, in Fr mess, in America, and in the English coloniei. The next objection that had been suggested to the plan was its expellee, If the offices connected with the proposed re gister were to be sinecures, be would not recommend their establishment. lint economy would be found to Aurae terise his plan ; it would create no office which team not efficient, and no officer would he overpaid. The expence of a general register would lie less then the expense of the registers in Middlesex and Yorkshire. The effect of a ge neral register would be an immense saving to the public. Information would be obtained in a few minutes, and fur ten shillings, which it now required several weeks to dis cover, at an expense of perhaps of three or four hundred pounds. The great evil at present was, that every tran saction wasrendered atorwe expensive and dangerous. The next objection to the measure was, that it would occasion disclosures. But it must be recollected that the register would have nothing to do with the past, but only with the fu ture. lied any inconvenience resulted from disclosures in Ireland, in Scotland, in Middlesex, in Yorkshire? It hail been said, that such disclosures would affect com mercial credit? But a most respect ible body of mer chant!, had declared their conviction, that the mercan tile world suffered more from a false appearance of property than from any other cause. Disclosures, there fore, would, in that respect, be beneficial rather than injurious. Let it be recollected whist extensive disclo sures might be obtained at Doctors' Commons for a shilling. The plan of registry which he intended to propose was so plain and simple, that no danger could re sult train it. That person who suffered from not regis tering had only himself to blame. The lowest degree of care was sufficiet.t. If an agent was negligent, the prin cipal would have a remedy against him ; and if the fault was in the office, the injury would be made good to the individual. What he proposed was, that instead of de tached register offices, there should be one general office in the metropolis for the whole of England and Wales. The easy communication from all parts of the country by post would render that a very eligible plan. For the informa tion of country solieitnrs, he would observe that they would not have occasion to employ London agents. They might transact their business with the register office by post, and without the aid of any intermediate person. There were two modes in which the registry might take place; either a memorial of the deed, or a duplicate of the deed, might be deposited in the Register Office. Ile pre ferred the later. At present there were no means of knowing what debts were due to the Crown. An estate might now he purchased, and might turn out not to be worth a farthing, in consequence of a debt of many years standing before due upon it to the Crown. He proposed therefore, that every obligation of that nature to the Crown should he registered. As to the indexes, the sub ject was so technical, that he would not enter upon it; except to observe, that by the proposed plan all the deed* which respected any particular piece of property might be seen at a glance. A sort of ledger account would be kept fur that purpose. There was one point of con siderable importance. It was, whether the notice of en unregistered deed should prevent the party whose deed was registered from having the benefit of that re , gistry ? He meant to propose that the party should not be so deprived. On the subject of pedigrees be wished to say a ward. At present there was frequently a difficulty ' in tracing a pedigree. No register was kept of births; only of baptisms ' • and of those only as respected Members of the Church of England. It appeared to him to lie of the last importance that there should be, not an ecelesias• tics!, but a civil register of all births, marriages, and deaths.—(Hear, hear.)—Such a proposition would not form any part of the present measure ; but the present measure would afford great facilities for the formation of such a measure. If the measure which he was about to propose were agreed to, the register to which he had just alluded might be added to it; and the whole be carried oa under one roof. The authorities in favour of such a proposition weregreat. The illustrious name of Sir Matthew Hale, and of many other high legal authorities, might be quoted to show the evils which resulted from the pre sent system. It was true that an illustrious individual of the present day, a man whom he must always respect and venerate—he meant Lord Eldon—had expressed himself disinclined to the measure. Bnt be must own that he would rather listen to the Noble and Learned Lord's opi nion of what the law was, than of what it ought to be. That Noble and Learned Lord had all his life paid so much attention to what the law was, that he bad hardly any time to consider what it should be. The measure mint not lie partially adopted. To give it a fair trial, it must be tried as a whole. If it were tried only in counties, it would not answer. It had been objected against the measure that it would change the system of conveyancing, and alter the habits of the profession. It had been supposed that the measure would be opposed by the attorneys. For the members of that branch of the profession he had great respect ; believing that in most cases they were honourable, liberal, and enlightened men. But he did not think they need be under any panic in consequence of the proposed measure " Othello's oc cupation" should be " gone." lf, however, their profits should be diminished by it, let it be recollected that those would be benefitted from whose pockets those profits at present came. The expense of looking out a title under the present circumstances was frequently enormous,. He knew an instance in which the vendor of an esmte, having engaged to prove the title, and having found that he could not do so without going to a prodigious - expence, was liberally told by the attorney for the purchaser, that if he (the vendee) would give hint (the attorney) the estate, he would find the title.—(A laugh.)—He was sorry, how ever, to say that that he did not hi lieve the reduction of the profit* which flowed from the present system would b e so great as was in some quarters apprehended. The improvement must, from its nature, be gradual : and he feared that a great part of the existing generation would pass away before its beneficial effects would b ecome strik ingly apparent. After apolog zing to the House for the imperfect outline which he hail sketched of his proposed measure, the lion. and Learned Gentlemeniil forconcludedeitia.l moving—" That leave be given to bring in a h Wishing a General Register for all Deed * and Instruments affecting Real Property, for England and Wales." Sir E. B, SUGDEN disclaimed any intention of offer ing a captious" optimisation to the proposition of his Ilon. and Learned Friend ; although he would take a future op portunity of stating in what he differed in opinion front him, H e n ow, l e wished to askhilhm. and s L ea rne d own et responsibility, d tllh' ever, or r whether'evriebrought it h t a l d e b e en rne as p u r r e e v previously s o i l ; submitted to his Majesty's Government ? Mr. CAMPBELL had brought in the Bill with the concurrence of the present Lord Chancellor ; but not as n measure to which Government was at present pledged. Government was not at present determined whether to support or oppose the measure. The measure was, in' the first instance, brought forward by him LI a Member of the House of Commons ; but with the full concurrence and approbation of the Lord Chancellor. Sir E. B. SUGDEN observed, that the Commission appointed to inquire into the laws affecting rest property was authorised to investigate, but not to originate any measure thetittielver. It was the bounden duty of Govern. ineni to consider whether the rneaseres recommended by the Commission ought. to be adopted ; end if they thought so, to originate them on the responsibility of the Law Officers of the Crown. Sir C. WETHEBILL 'loped that when the Bill came to be discussed, the Houle would have the beuefit of the presence of every County Member Who ruight prefer haVing the ti ie deeds of his estate in his own house, rather than in the recondite mausoleum of parchments which his Hen. and Leaned Friend proposed to erect. He trusted that every County Member especially, and that the Hriuse at large. te, uld hesitive before they edop.ed what, he could a a but think, was a proposition pregnant with the greatest mischiefs. Ilia would not, have risen on the present occasion, however, het for hit Honourable and Learnt d rrienel'e ambidektraus ailusion to Lotd Wan. His Hop, and Learned :Friend certainly paaeJ that Noble and Learned Lord wish the one t hand„lo thea.heknocked him rio,wn wit)a the otl;er. . The vocabulary of praise Was exbanstal on that noble and venerable Oben in the tirst instance, lint then it was added that he was so learned in the law as it stood, that lads mind was not strong trough, or liberal enough, to consider of what amendment it was susceptible. The Noble and Learned Lord was certainly not a hasty reOrmer of the law, Itemise he knew what the law was ; hot there was a class of persons in the country who teished hastily to change the law, because they did not know what the law was.—(Hear.) Those persons had not had tptite to much experience of the law as the Noble and Learned 1. , rd. He f Sir C. W.) had a weal respect for ail tle members of the various law commissiona ; but with ell that respect, he must take the liberty of raying that be could nut put their knowledge and experience of the law into competition with the know ledge and experience of the Noble and Learned Lord. With respect to the proposed measure, the present was not the proper time fur discussing it. Otherwise, he should be disposed to ask who was to build the immense fabric, the construction of which was contemplated by his Hon. and Learned Friend ? It would lie necessary to have remorse to the assistance of the B , ard of Works in building su enormous an establishments He thought that the plan 'Elf a general revisal( i•elrer Wald b e On these grouhda therefore, he should Iteitintte before he gav i e his concur• retire to the plan proposed by his Helmut ab!e and Learned Friend. He gave his Hon. and Learned Friend the ful kilt reedit fur the ingenious and pleasant speech he had rmade in introduciee the measure .—: t speech in which he had attained an object not often attained by lawyers— mil it of making a leg rd subject intelligent to al, and a dry subject the means of much pleasantry, thought his pleasantry, by-the-bye, consisted ci , iefly of some goodly diction.--(A laugh.) With these facetise, however, he had inclined the House to lend a favour able ear to his measure, though it certainly had not met with the appro bation of some of the highest names in the ptofesnion; and he (Sir C. Wetherell) might say with Lord Eldon, that though evils did cettiinly exist at present in the mode of transferring and mottling the titles of real pro perty, the evils which the proposed system might intro duce, might probably lie at least equivalent to those from which the owners of lands were at present suffering. He could not, therefore, give his concurrence to the measure. Sir C. FERGUSSON might perhaps feel with the Hon. and Learned Gentleman opposite, that it was a little extraordinary that a numsore, introduced by a gen. denten who was a Commissioner, to inquire into the I VW* regulating real property, and who was at the same time a Member of that House, should not have received the con currencoof his Majesty's Government; but will, whether it had that advantage or not, it should most unques• tionably have his best snpport. There was, however, no wonder that the plan should have wanted the approbation of Lord Eldon, for it was a plan of Reform, and that Noble lord was no reformer, as was clearly proved by the fart, that he had presided for twenty-five years in the Court of Chancery, and yet, though the alarms of that Court had been so manifest that no man now ventured to defend them, that Noble Lord had not once in the whole course of his judicial career proposed a single reform, but seemed to have found the whole of the law of that Court to be the perfection of human reason. The tneasure now proaosed fully deserved the support of every men in that Mr. HUME said, that whether the Hon. and Learned Member who introduced this measure did it as a Com missioner, with the authority of the Government, or as an individual Member of that House, be was equally en titled to credit for his exertions, and for the learning and ability he had so usefully directed to this subject.—(Hear, hear.)—The measure was one of very necessary reform, and it had his (Mr. flume's) support. Having heard much praise of the register system of S •otland, be wished to see that system introduced here. He trusted, therefore, that the House would not be led away by the opposition of the Hon. and Learned Member for Boroughbridge, nor by his fearful pictures of a metropolitan mausoleum of deeds. in spite of what had been said on a former occa sion, he (Mr. Hume) wished to have law so intelligible that everybody could understand it—he amongst the rest. —( A laugh.)—The lawyers might wish it otherwise, but the statement of theirs, that law was and must remain science, amounted to this—that the people mull not and should not do without them. Now he wished to do with out them altogether.—(A laugh.)—He should support the measure of a general register. Sir JAMES SCARLETT observed, that this was not a fit moment for the discussion of the merits of such a measure as that of a general register: he should, there fore, abstain from enteting into the details of the quistion, but would give his opinion decidedly in favour of the measure, as far as he had been able to consider it at pre sent. He should reserve his opinion on the details till the proper time came for the discussion ; and all he should now state was his opinion that, when it had been fully dis cussed, It would be found worthy of the ability and learn ing of the gentlemen who bad devoted their time and talents to its formation. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said, that the ex invasions employed by an Honourable Member with re. spect to Lord Eldon were rob Oily not intended to apply to that Noble Lord alone, hut to the other membera of the profession, for lawyers were not generally considered a re forming tribe.—(A laugh.) But that very circumstance gavg additional value to this measure, proposed as it was by a lawyer of great eminence, and having the support of many of the most learned members of the profession.— (Hear, hear.) He should be surprised if, on the fullest discussion of the subject, the opinions of the best educated men, lawyers ay not lawyers, were not found to he in its favour.—.(Hear, hear.) It was no objection to the mea sure that it had not obtained the declared support of the Government, for it did not require authority, founded as it was upon sound good sense, and upon the necessity of the ! case.---(Hear, hear.) 1 he measure, however, if autho rity were wanted, had the authority of the lion. and Learned Gentleman who introduced it, himself a very learned lawyer, of the farmer and present Lord Chancel lor, and certainly of a majority of the present Govern nient. That fact ought to relieve the lawyers from the imputations that had been cast upon them. Suppose the necessary calls on the attention of the Government at the present moment hail prevented them from considering it so that they could not give it their declared support, still the House were obliged to the Hon. and Learned Member for bringing it for Ward, and he was certain the Government would do nothing to stifle the measure, even if they did nut support it ; but he hoped it would lie found they could give it their full and cordial support. Mr. PRESHFIELD defended the branch of the pro fession to which he hail the honour to belong from the imputation about their fear of their occupation being gone. He was sure that the attorneys and solicitors were as ready as others to sacrifice their personal interests when the public welfare required them to do so, and Hon. Members had no right to 'suspect them of opposition to this or any other measure of Reform tili they had declared themselves opposed to it. Mr. CAMPBELL did not mean to assert that any par ticular portion of the profession was opposed to measures of Refirrn, and, indeed, he was bound to say that the Cknninissioners hail received the most able support from members of all the branches of the profession.—(H e ee.) It was his ambition to improve the law of the country rather than to seek promotion, preferment, or additional advancement. He hoped the Government would support this measure, for without that support it would not suc ceed. He wished the Bill to be printed and circulated, on as to give an opportunity fur everybody to consider and offer what objections to it he thought proper, and that the second reading should be put off to a distant day.— Leave granted. COURT OF CHANCERY. • Sir E. B. SUGDEN, in rising to call the attention of ! the House to the administration of Justice in the Court of Chancery, reminded them the when he was in office he had given notice to bring forward a measure relative to the imperfect administration of Justice in that Court. As he sonhtaod note introil r etiredoc fr om introduce that measure, o o ffi ce, lie was n • which into P :l r t e hands perhaps of abler men, but certainly nut of men inure zealous than he in the discharge of so important a d u ty. Had he continued in office, be should have pos sessed the power to introduce a measure which he verily believed would have been of great benefit to the suitors of the Court of Chancery, for he had had the honour to be long to as virtuous a Government—(Laughter) —as ever existed.... 4 Government that he was sure would have put down' whatever abuses were clearly shewn to exist, with. out regard to the interests of friends or foes. He felt that he should have r ece i ve d t h e i r f u l l support, end on that any p m or t t ai l: u e r s i lae o u f li t l i hsaivmeilraerlikndedih, be should ive!it his sup..ad lie brou g h t i n hi e Bill. g Whenever the p resent G overnment should bring forward poet. He must say, that the subject of the' Court of Chancery had never been fairly met, but hottl.ilways been used for party and political purposes. in what he Was about to Atte he wished it to be understood that lie aid I hot pledge the late Government; but be would now men tion that lie had been desired to undertake the introduc- ' thin of certain plans of Reform. Ile did tin lertake them; but before they tumid he matured am! presented to the Government for the expreseien of their opinion upon them they had gone out of office. Ile would eey wh.st seemed to him a proper course to alloet. lie wofild eh% dowli et patent plate* now Veld in reversifin—g iniiinnessoletaike•l from feci pail be , the suitors of the 'Court, eapecialty when paid to persons ivho took no part in the administration of Justice. The Lord Cuanctllor, too, held at this m u tnent a branch o , income ameutiting to 10,000/. a-year, delisted tram fees paid by the suitors. Front the amount of tie ee fees lie would strike off 2 000/. a year, and add that sum to the amount of the fixed salary of the elate : that would be a great relief to the suitors. Another evil at present ex sting was the state of the Court 01 Chancery itself. If the Vice-Chancellor's Court and the Robe' Court had I een properly settled at the time the first of them was created tend If et the same time the e tifieces toeneetereteith.ilieut had li^rh pinperiy regulated with a view to dear off the business--the complaints now merle would never have been heard. Such a course would have been much snore advantageous than it would be to separate the Inteiue.s of Isankruptcy from the Lord Chancellor's jurisdiction. In his opinion, nothing could be more mischievone than such a separation, and lie hoped never to see the day when that would be done. That the general adsninietratien of hank ruptey was hail he was ready to admit ; but lie del not think it ought to he made a separate jurisdiction It bad been said by some eersons, when it was proposed to issti titte the Vice-Chancellor's Court, that that Judge *saild db nb litisiness. That Eeppossition bed praised ,to be in ferlY tinfouniled: The Vice Chancellor's Court had be come, to all intents and purposes, the Court of Chancery, and the Court of Chancel) , had become a Court of Appeals, and little else. The Lamson+ who produced the measure for instituting the Vice Chanctllor's Court never ima g ined that teat Judge would do so much business that four R gi•ters ceuld not keep up with him ; but if they h lid f ircaren that fact, they ought not to have appointed him, without appointing, at the same time, those officers who would have removed the impedimenta that stood in the way of the discharge of the liminess of the Court. As the Vite-Chancellor's Coat, and the Conn of the Master of the Rolls, now stood in relation to the performance or the business of the Court of Chancery, they debited with each other ; for If two parties were about to make cross motions in the cause cause, though both these twinges ought to come on together, one party could take his motion t 'Sint-Chancery Court and the other could take his to the Court of the Master of the Rolls. Jr. consequence, too, of the present state of these two Course, the Vice-Chancelsn's Court and the Court of the Alaateruf the Bells each had a bar of its own ; but the bird Chancellor's Court never could have a separate bar, but must draw its bar front one or other of the two other Courts. The Lord Chancellor could not hold his sittings there regularly, on account of his political functiens, of the appeals Ise bail to hear in the House of Lott's. Hie proposition would avoid that difficulty. Ile would make the Rella' Court a Court for the transaction of all busi ness except that of bankruptcy, as the Vice-Chancellor's Was now ; for as they were at present constituted, one set of Counsel might he heard in one of the Courts; in discussing a motion that really decided the merits of the cause, and yet, when the cause itself came on again in the Court of Chancery, different counsel were also of necessity employed. He should propose, that in future no draftsman should draw a bill, without fixing on it a mark to show in which of the Courts that bill should came on. It had been the intention of the late Govern ment to mike a most important alteration in the Vice- Chancellor's Court; for he had had the authority of Loud Lyndhurst for proposing a measure that would have made the Vice-Chancellor an independent Judge, instead of being as be was now at the beck and call of •the Chancellor. fleeing said thus much with respect to the Court of Chancery, he now came to the alterations he proposed to make in the Court of Exchequer. In consequence of the uppointment of an additional. Judge in the Court of Exchequer, be would propose that he or one of them should be the First Heron of the Court, and that the Chi, f Boron should confine himself wholly, to Equity; and that in cases where,he felt a pressure, be should call in the assistance of the Filet or most competent Baron ; and that, on the other hand, the First Judge of the Law side should, in case of questions of difficulty, more par ticularly connected with Equity, call in the assistance of the Equity Judge. This would render the Exchequer a most effective Court for the decision of cases, both of Law and Equity. Before he came to the subject of the appel• late jurisdiction, he would make one other observation on the subject of the proceedings in Chancery ; and that was, that the whole of the orders of that Court should be re vised and remodelled. The new orders had not by any means been attended wilh the good effects that bad been anticipated from them, and; nothing would answer the purpose except a revision and remodelling the whole of them, both new and °W.—(cleer, hear.)—And they ought all to he made so clear and simple, that even a Member for Middlesex might understand them.--(Hear.)l And as to the orders and system of proceedings in the, Exchequer, he wuul I propose that they should be the same as in Chancery, that the country might be saved from the inconvenience and disgrace of having two sys tems of equity procedure. He had said that no set of men were snore disinterested titan the equity lawyers when the question came to be what was best for the public be was shout to give the House an example of that disinterested- 1 vent. There were such thins in the Court of Chancery as motions of courses, which were really of no use. These were wholly in the hands of the junior Counsel, and the fee on each was half a guinea. These he had proposed to have abolished, but feeling some delicacy in proposing an improvement, which would cost himself nothing, without communicating with those who were to be affected by it, he mentioned the matter to the junior Chancery liar deters, and they, one and all, concurred in the pro priety of the abolition of these motions. Some of these fees came into the hands of the Master of the RON, but they served no necessary purpose in the progress of a suit, and, therefore, ought to be abolished. There was one remark on the 'subject of the despatch of business in the Courts which he felt hisuself called upon to 'make. It was very common in that House to praise a Judge fur . despatching a great deal of business in a short time, and the natural consequence would be, that Judges would be anxious to d. serve that praise without perhaps duly c n sidering other essential requisites in the progress of a cause. Celerity was only one thing to be considered. It was of the last importance that the thing should be well done, as well as speedily done; and no despatch cou'd be proper that interfered with due deliberation. He could not help admiring a rule of Cromwell made two centuries ago, which war, that when, after a cause bad been heard and the Judge was ready to proceed to a decree, the decree should be drawn up and completely settled in the pre- Bence of the Counsel on both aides before any other busi ness was gone into: This was a most wise and judicial reeulation, and he wished it had always been adhered to. But as the matter was managed at present, there was no time to set down and settle what had been done in one cause before another was called on, so that it could not immeiiately be exactly knoWn what had been decided. The consequence was, that perhaps in three weeks after it was necessary to have a second hearing at the Registrar's Office, in order to settle what had been de creed. That was not a mode in which the business ought to be conducted. Time ought to he taken after hear ing a cause to settle the decree at once; and if that could not be dons according to the present system, then it was his opinion that a new Court should be appointed for the purpose. Without rare in this respect, there was danger that they would forget the case, and have the whole of their work to do over again. Another most material point 'in hie opinion was, that, as Lord BACON had said, the Judge should take the law out of kis library, and not out of his head, as otherwise there might be reason to appre -1 head that the law would escape them, and Counsel would be at a loss what opinion to live ; and very little de pendence could be placed on the opinion when given with reference to the ultimate determination of the MSC.- There was another thing which he was most anxious to r see established in the Equity Courts, and that was Special Paper Days, where they might argue the law upon a s settled state of facts, and not he always disputing, as at I present, on cases of mixed law and fact, each stating the facts of the case in his own way, and applying the law to his own state of facts. The practice of the Court of s King's Bench afforded an admirable example in this Way. In that Court difficult and important causes were turned into what are called special CUM in which the facts were settled and agreed upon by the Counsel fur the parties, with the assistance of the Judge, if necessary ; and then I the eases came on to be argued on the special paper days • upon the law only, upon a settled and indisputable state of facts ; whereas, according to their practice in equity, t every man merle hie own statement of facts, and applie, the law to that particular state and view of the facts. t They had also causes which were called short causes, in which it was understood that important and difficult points ought not to be introduced. Nevertheless, it I was not uncommon et present to introduce delicate and important questions of few into such cases, so that f they were decided without that deliberation which their i importance demanded. Another proposition which, he , would,thersforc, have made, was that such points should he carefully excluded front short c lust% He nose pro. 7, ,inn ed , : mthe t a o t,. . 7.o, t , :e : a th e Fe, r } c r .a t i e t r m e ta v n i ce l than n n a i, n n y (i t i l e t , a i t i h n e to le fi el t : l e: t "tied, anti one whire,.Thriiiiiii:ipervirri;:usultyferceanleeleds t f o or the a renel liott e r l s t i a.. l ; ' ). s e rdi t g li ' t tiontet.:ll:l,aneSat:oeir,ei.rets,(iit:-Ittistri.ralef)neiritirn4e!l ithti::::::,,hikaissliterr:Ptoirirt:eogeaostaictilevtri:, ~ report whether the prison claiming to he the Were" A 8 t‘t a elhr ra,po, : t an i t t r i ot e : 4 ' :l l .ti t islis ii‘ .,ie t b.ti . .t i st i viiyy, : t a . e i,: s li ...tli t . t d(ti le ,,;% '2 l ‘r ‘i ‘ ..::: .: ,o ace . t. ,v e inrui 6 i r io ‘ ii:t e ' r v i :lib eil it ilt, t: ei e ..l., i st,ipti l ilh z..v: i n titi y ,e w i elde t t ) t t uu ttr t ati . ar i l is o t n i i inbet n i e .y u g t t 1 s . : iil iti i7 a:leao l tu l iii;i v a e riffe. da mit v te l .t l l 4 s i i:B -t t.., l i o ia,(l . l..co e' laln i t(i i . td ‘ l a i, ' l l ,,:ii, a i o n' eon i t e rt b f : l .t l iV ilf, n t: fi ll i ri ' .e ' iti;l ' C a l), : ,:i4 n r mc r • re t iir l!. si l e. no, l e c t in n' e t gli t c 4i' vti l tti e et. ' e : upiaini . y l i p c o il e ie seee tt if : n ( ine t vi d tle wi,ceerco l iab y ehoi : oo: :" :, : toly ' f ilt o i r i 'l' nbtl be ta l ,w, ' n r n( ) ). ti e : i t ni,a : i r i e ,abeo ust it ri ' .. l ian i i i e nD l iT t eat: introduced yite.s. h ouholt :l e e drgi:ei alteration le o i I f b o w : fi, i :i n ree co h r t i e , iti coh e oluiirti e l l acid concusiou into the administration of justice. Whit t be braid in their regular order anti in no other top was the first rule that ought to 1 1 a r.i tt:::: ed i P s ,: S i I h st i ot a i n t: :::::1 n i t e r e t l j h ie s e u l id:grBu:l.l:lelpybawt;:sianoto,nucetia;:laalYyy,ftoihnicri' rt,shhisee,arhiujel7r.i n w g 1,1'10f:07 1;u! tge t j u inii e ia . re a te r hunt i ej, t .e ! piwirg t e _ s l vi u hl e ei,,ie r e n ought t t t.a n t o , I % ) . e as no g 1 ) : o n i o u r t e , 1 delay e Iz et i:n . h im a p r t y ro B n i f il t n rO rig iinh h ei t ll ,cir. e i C ,,te i i !r .r!r t u l s t iiiguenl T ,,,h,ti, l i k t i n li st ß if . a . Sibtrbethme omittuittupp:irit:nbtadixn.iont coefocts;l: f b iti t n i i e f f a! : 1 tt the e s t 4 . ilti r t.ih.,: e nuti t ;i n e.itns I i e t y of the ititlrirs to hake the jy. l 6 - ineei gtveti as epeedily.as linmitiff: ittei . ilie hiding 1,10 be n finished, and of V t constant applications to the Coon' sal to know when the judgment of the Court 'void be r ccoatsft uihotetfoitiram);ait aiet.rierpr,btiratatoy:iinitu,insc.,. etaittfil,:ht,ntiiiieriunia.,comisrese,rnnimistii:iituiellgi,niktrtalai‘itaenstuvld:hepie:;ahtgie, wriosic,u,,shli.utlnnemidpciii,hiuvilitinieriuncioai:st,epii.eulresi,o,iii:iiroll.elefiniyetuituticYrairiinliallta,mesitptnii,:serlstopitartirniihdicroftai:out:titawriereantacrinhtiii:iinailossi,gonadtinril,oatitceret:o4o,,fgeigorfelileftl: istre.sit *tinily under the eye of the Judge, the list, 00 th' Suiturs. From this simpl . plan he expected meehkenefit ...and nne was in the mode of keeping the accounts of i t h hi l ;t:::::dcp::::diliiiiiiriiii commencement of the suit WAS scarcely WIJIth a5b1,11...g0 oes it matter of appeals, and that sot i„„iii,. "Etpowhia'insun:sateoynnnmet i ‘wi t ig l ii ed littitch a beha t . th t ende b et e ivrined C; s o no ge ddi ice .1 0 i r 0 t i c : ot e t rl t i l ric et to e h ti o colt u i, liimip.swellitirihicTsil:josci:titirrtoweirmee. je:r.iathe.ite,',:rn.::;..i.. out h a y ing th e whole of the causes broutht hrfore luahnitonn o t inion tuf the Court on one pattiettlar point wan, . 0 _, Y a i n stances, a ll that was wanted ( or tin di s trileuti ( e ,n e to o. . e. fund ; and in Scotland the Court had the storejorisdicti 0.d.,,e ride upon suchspecial point , ' without haring Any iiei.l, thet' case brought before thorn; and the poWer n...,: ercise-d. But in the Court of Chancery bare, Wit aces *pinion of the Judge could be had on any one P 0.114 ,. 0 „, necessary to file a Ilill, and bring thew hole eiretunttl,int of the case before him, whereas his judgment uncap,rlhe might be all that was requisite tio the distributono the fund. What he should propose, therefore , W 111 1) _trio Judge might be c tiled upon for the shjudiestion, %gm rn Ito IA point without haviug the whole oft Wise P l ° 0 of befire him And now he came to the consisktP°,l. treat ri l °I the appellate jurirlietien. It was certainlY'la , eat fiat to find ape'son for the head of the late '0.7. pap sufficiently well informed in law and e quity and olt , i l li r oil titulars, so as to be able in the best manner to perfurrii to the duties attached to his situation. Ile did taut gi n. n f a Lay that it WAS a decided objection to the arlearteeter:;eii nun to the head of the law, that he had Pot Pr c irat chiefly in a Court of Equity; but it. certainly watotago, drawback on the administration of justice. It _ o. l _ o , questitunsbly a great inconvenience that a man's bat r eal in equity should be made as Judge of thsti tolc_."4o Court where equity was administered. Tien; 3 _6' .. .; when it was thought proper to appeal a cause, tit ~Prr e lay to the very same Judge in another place. ._ 'l ie andw n f a l e t i ll' : t: p oll r His u °ll ditlPf,ll)llale'ente tc°l7estnoun"rn. bio‘b:°i3l:lllW(lil4id exactly U° a bK(lb l lvei ; nr Y l . a t 7 u sih: t iein t ut h enbi * o ed e ma :i s detaihoil the the : 1 .... 0411:i: 4; jwtwt:hhouhdeeirdcicecLitiistarro,:thraredtaidonnhcidirlyabebtaittunhnalecrirui;c:tuoiaanorsdu.tai ifrpetidr presiding -- not gni niu c stfi t: ii dtctriruyilnhandtsagoiinceonaf t t pahropoy f ef a etia t t l ,hial etod t ne e :i. li a it wit, i tself. y e e,l t ilts I t ilol ' le ed e_ w r o eiji;o:siblviti appeared the sante individual Lord Chance 01 .) ,_7. 0 , 0 , there with a knowledge ad equity acquired since tl i i to ' hi , tion to the trench, instead of *knowledge carrie dberef:ro, „a, tthoatthtehbeenapcpeluilatNeVihuaritsdhicetisohnootifltdhepTipouos:o:f eLficir l ap h i o s t e u , l l l l he put on a totally different footing. 'lll tur.,lier Chn he should propose that a sort of Equitirt_7.lool.l consist be, should be appointed, anti that the COirt gr" the Ai )het of the Lord Chancellor, the Vice.Chentalle s ioi 00 that of tits Rolls, and the Chief Baron. lb P n r, o or she nr the Counsel should be made really responsit 1 blurt. lie re , peals which should be brought helot,' the nab i i r e. membered when it was a matter iyhich co , ile. fleeted on a Counsel to sign which tbere or a ppeal l' i r via , one asof' d were no reasonable grounds ; but now that br : 00 , an i with, and the most frivolous, appeal' w trg a tin , ' tj t h i e w a se rd..— w Le o th h e a . d greseastesincoronovaenpipeenaz sitvilicli fare of worthy of coming tinder the review of :!„01,1r, a ah r jurisdietion. Wlcat be should propoirs there_.,t'arril, o that a moral responsibility, s hould tin ... r ow o f r , "; created, and that it should be &Wei a 7_ 14 0 11 ''' deetion oat Counsel to give their. sanction so j i or ie„ . which there were no reasonable grostel6 tio•oento Counsel could not be mule respord lbl ? I f hp pot. e r„ their appeals, but every Connie.' bad it 3 ,,, h t here ":".. e . take care not to sanction an Nitre' fir which to , eont' i o no reasonable grounds. The Court bei:s,,,, ,Peon toted, be would give the parties, sirilatp o ' t bore hearhri. go before three of theme Judges , wit' 11 ,—t a lero of the °t it t! the cause; before the Lord (,' hales) or to r t° 6 ' il Judges ; or before the other , three Judir.i. I he f ah Oi l e House of Lords. If this. plan Were atiolo u ' whi ": e re that it would stifle nine-tenths of the Or a i ls ro peefi t l i" now refilled, more partioularlY the,',.li rli Tht", I :, ° F e s sl of the Counsel should be well estAbl'",;,ida °' a nt ' the the appeals from Scotland. Tit . Pl o y nfer e ,, e--" oion t of r ootrliw'nhff:enrttrytleekeettehislehbaqvadruo,:rebuegiterpenaih,optbeeirlot otentfrlignmloa(i'letnwuirt7;giiiynaoletritglaooonlinvdttede.tirldeyibbnweasiChibtib:lllW;;lfft°l{o„;°,lllotr►elo arcadeti' l : l r l: • • Gnat OP AOS tied mined to be wade in them particuTi boettl'aibere was ripe for them. Almost all thee. Pia:ere a tid d A nearly two centuries ago, but th ere theY" tor eher, k en and it was fisting 0, 11 or i o bita i l the remain there any longer. )11 03 1.1040 0 / dry made with a .vievr to them ill oto in vo og ht, new Administration had great gc. . 0 ,0 prat, p ot them into effect. Another part of the ei . .prober,pere in his opinion, to be, that the Lord annno hie sal t hat the power to call one of the Equity Jodie ° . ' thirt een ° for it in cases of appeals in the House of Lot 1 ' oorr eieo.lo l that Judge should sit with hint, and not _ .. ,,i c htl!, mot was obviously inconsistent with thestatio:twh; sot to , coo , Chancellor held, and ought td holds i b is 0 0r sl i t the any Judge over 'dm. He ought "not t° . _ wide 1 0 1 t" trout of any Jude.g The object *lns i° F ie s tit IFii . thE appeal should nut be to the dame Judge , A r e „,,Cletts the tame Judge was little else than a . 1 11 n 0 041111orld remedies whieh he suggested were attende,ajo a t on the greatest advantage would be gained, 1'1,00;011e be uniform anti certain. Now, to post° ii .', O 0 00, 4 0- . of offices in the Courts, without which tine worge With respect to them, his inteotio.olte.ol ailt ~„1 I ; ' r cure: be would adapt them to the rral ett . 4 _, l : e ol it°l o o hY of the duties required by the interests of t 1 _, 13 he . .„,aty if it should be found that the duties C°.7.,, orolF"cort c smaller numbers, then he would abolish l i , ;be . re parts of the offices as vacancies oautred• to 0 10:: h a d of Chancery there were thesis clerks i ( 10 i,„), E/2!, r in f..em bad been propOsed . two eenturiesl74l. Iltsow lititslitetuocotiOoLunritoyuoegrahrc,t with very little dutY t° p ea ,ifilootitii% WI the duty Chancery guadiponnts°:l:l3!St:Ppeljr: 1: 117$ 14 :: '' ' . ;l i c vid o : ; I let Cll y a i; ; : i d. i Common Law ought to devolve on the L o h Ito, at. MSS would thus be taxed lite attoPt e'r e , orouott/'itisoll tiefactory warmer. The duty had boo tl' l 7 o btr! ii r s eers tended the court in exult terms ill a I to Iste i Wel that duty employed in reading evidences _ohs a e rap oe - that duty had been diepensed with, 111'dailotafttd, Oil ! WAS to no purpose. What he ithituld ...t„irfalt`' was, to relieve the clerics from tkiat natl. P'"-