The Sun. — London, England, 1854-07-26 00:00:00

Liberal rty. He is 72 years of age. He was a member of the Cabinet in 1823, and was wounded in resisting the French intervention that year, under the Duke of Angouleme. There can be no doubt that the appointment of General San Miguel is only temporary, and for the purpose of conduct ing the affairs of the moment, till the arrival of Espartero. Private letters of the 19th state the Progressistas and Republicans have united on the understanding that the throne of Queen Isabella will bo preserved. It is also said that the convocation of the Cunsti tuent Assembly is not yet. determined on. The friends of the monarchy are very anxious to oppose the convocation of the Constituent Assembly, as it is feared that it will be dangerous to the Crown. With respect to Queen Christina, it is said that she is still in concealment in Madrid, and that her hiding-place is the French embassy. The following is a copy of the address which Espartero issued to the inhabitants of Logrono, when leaving that place. It ran thus : "I quit Logrono, my adopted country during the last seven years. My country and the call of liberty require me to act, and I leave for invincible Saragossa. During my absence obey the orders of the most serene Junta, and uphold the liberty that has been achieved, (Signed) " DUKE DE VITTORIA? FR A_NCE. MM. Black and Durand, merchants at Constan tinople, who are charged with the negotiation of the Turkish loan, are now in Paris, and have placed themselves iu communication with the Credit Mobilier and M. Mires for that object. It does not appear, however, that these negotiations have as yet led to any definitive result. It is said that a proposition to facilitate the loan was this day p-esented by the Marquis de Lavalette, en-Minis ter of France at Constantinople. The weather has become for the last three or four days intensely hot ; the accounts from the provinces would show it to be general, and they also are highly favourable as to the crops. If the present weather lasts the harvest will be abundant. The accounts contained in the Moniteur as to the progress of the harvest are of the most favour able nature. A considerable fall had taken place in most of the markets, and the yield was expected to be one-fourth more than the average. The following are ti receipts of the principa. ie last returns of the gross French railways : Pa , sen- Dates. Goods. Total. gers last ye w ar Norihtra fuly 9 Ju'y Is 381,809 418,104 803,013 669.052 11 ° 11,1 1 •• •• fuly 9 July 15 107.429 100,681 208,110 a 30,4,6 Havre .... •• .. fuly 9 July 15 38,125 5. ,6 , 5 88,770 102,815 Orleans an.. l irsne'es July 9 Julyls 383,495 487,808 871,363 695,582 Strasburg •• fuly 9 July 15 27 - ,327 3 3 937 609,164 42,865 kontereau .• Suiy 9 Julyls 11 , 551 17 . 337 28 " •• • • ... Jn y 9 July 15 267 721 198.067 485.7-8 392.128 "tern •••• • • July 10 July 16 141,992 4;,700 185,692 137,831 ' , Yong to the litediterraneab fuly 2 July 8 '127,237 129,956 257,193 Grand Ceutral ( Lyons to Ito . mule) •• •• July 2 July 8 52,123 136,724 188,847 164,105 The Three per Cents. closed yesterday at 70f. 95c. for the end of the month ; and the Four-and-a- Half per Cents. at 97f. 90c. • Orleans Railway Shares, 1,167 f. 50c. ; Rouen, 1,017 f. 50c. ; Havre, 672 f. 50c. ; Great Northern, 816 f. 25c. ; Strasburg, 785 f. ' • New Shares, 620 f. ; P ar i s an d Ly ons , 941 f. 25c. ; Lyons to the Mediterranean, 840 f. ; Western of France, 640 f. ; Bordenux and Cette, 605 f. ; Great Central of France, 492 f. 50c. • Lyons and Geneva, 502 f. 50 c . ; B an k of Credit Mobilier, 683 f. 75c. MARKET N E IVN-t T HIS DAY.) CORN EXCHANGE. We had a very limited supply of English wheat in to day's market, yet so little business was transacted in it that Monday's prices were nominally unaltered. The show of foreign wheat was good; all kinds moved off heavily, and the quotations were utmost nominal. There was nothing doing in floating carg oes. Barley and m a lt were d u ll, an d must dscriptions were offering on lower terms. There was very little inquiry for oats. B eans an d peas were excessively dull. The flour trade was heavy, at Monday's quotations. Wheat. 220 ARRIVALSI THIS WEILL Barley. I \ta!t. t Oat: I Flour. 110 t 2,04) 60 ( 860 I 14,470 I 2,790 brl English .. Irish .... Foreign .. 7,310 i 1,320 BOROUGH HOP. There is very little business doing in our market, and prices are next to nominal Duty, 50,0001. to 60,009/. WHITECHAPEL. The demand ruled heavy, as follows :—Beef from 3s 24 to 4s 4d ; mutton, 35 . 4 d to 45 8d ; lamb, 4s 44 to 5s 4d ; veal, 3s al to 4a 84 ; pork, 3s 44 to4s 8d per Blbs by the carcase. BLOYD'S SHIPPING-(THIS DAY.) LONDON, July 26.—Wind this day at Noon, E ; light pleasant breeze, and fine weather. OFF THE SOUTH FORELAND, July 26.—(Per Elec. Tel.) —Grafton, St. John's. OFF THE START, July 22.—City of Hamilton, from Montreal. LowEsrorr, July 25.—Wind, E.N.E. Arrived—Maria, from Ham burgh. HARWICH, Jnly 25.—Wind, E. Arrived —Lady Eliza beth. fuomjiondon, for Rotterdam ; Adler, do., for Altona. SOUTHAMPTON, July 24.—Wind, SE. Arrived—Anna, Cobjornsen, from Christiana; Henricus, Emden. PLYMOUTH, July 25.—Wind, E. Sailed—Peltona, for Malta. PORTSMOUTH, July 25.—Wind, S.S.E. Arrived—So phia, from Gefle ; Moses, Ton s berg; G ra titude, Brevig. Sailed—L e il a , for Cadiz. FALMOUTH, July 2..—Wind, E. Arrived—Packet, from Rio Janeiro ; Ursus Mino, Krageroe. Off Port— Hindoo, from Havannah, for Hull ; Rainbow, Quebec, for Southampton ; Adolph von Nassau, Samarang ; Clio, Quebec. OF DUNGENESS, July 21.—Arrived—Swea, from New York, for Bremen ; Michael, Torrevieja. OFF Borroiluaca (Isle of Wight), July 24.—Arrived— A Hamburgh barque, showing flag with No. 15 on it. BRISTOL, July 25.—Wind, N.E. Arrived—Bellero phou, from Memel. Sailed Mary Ann Bruford, for Africa. MILFORD, July 25.—Wind, N.B. Sailed—Birkenhead, for Quebec. W A R RENPOINT, July 24.—Wind, W. Arrived—Brothers, from Quebec Huii, July 25.—Wind, N.E. Arrived—Rostoff Rosen kagee, from litiraMiChi. SHIELDS, July 25.—Wind, N.E. Arrived—Pacific, from Licata • Angelis, Genoa. CORK, July 22.—Wind, S. Arrived—Challenger, from St. John's, N.B Sailed—Jantina Roelina, for New York; Emilia, Lisbon. SCILLY, July ?4.—Wind, E.N.E. Sailed—Lady Sale, for Bremen. Put back—Merlin, Francis Harbour, with loss of bowsprit and foreyard, and with mast sprung. STETTIN, July 23.—The Humber (s s), from Stettin to Hull (cargo, wheat and spelter), is on shore near Caseburg, in th. river Swine, and must discharge part of cargo. GIBRALTAR, July 10.--The Cecilia (Danish schooner), from Marseilles to Falmouth, and the iron merchant steamer Lisbon (another report gives the name of this steamer Pericles), from Bordeaux to Constantinople, with provisions and specie (two million francs), came in con tact, on the 6th July, about 30 miles south of Malaga, when both vessels foundered ; crews (except one man) picked up and landed at Malaga by the French lugger Maria—Viand, master. PER ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH. LIVERPOOL, WEDNESDAY, 10.30 A M. Wind, E S.E.; fine, The Himalaya (screw steamer) sailed this morning, at 8 a.m., for the Mediterranean, with the Scots Grays (Second Dragoons) on board. (BY SUBMARINE. AND EUROPEAN TELEGRAPH.) GRAVESEND, Wednesday, 11.5 A.M. Wind, E.S.E ; tide 14 hours' flood ; fine. Arrived, 25th.—Merry Cutter, from Rotterdam ; Wil liam Thornborrow, Guernsey ; Young Hero, Konigsberg ; Australasia, Portland Bay ; Norfolk Lass, Rotterdam ; Anna Ge rgina, Ipata. 26th.—Auguste, from Soderham ; Adler, Dautzic; Johanna Jantina, Leer; Kertina, Ko nigsberg; Anna Maria, Schulperseil ; Johannes Minde, Soderham ; Freedom, Girgenti ; Batavier (s), Rotterdam. Sailed, 25 th—Arnon, fo: Launceston ; Irene, Adelaide. Sailed, 26 th —Allred the Great, for Bombay ; Druid, California; City of London (s), Dunkirk; Belgium, for Ostend. Wind B. N DEAL, Wednesday, 10 a.m. .8., fresh an d fine. Passed, 25 th—Deigutte Hoffning, from east to west- Ward ; Elizabeth, Koser, for Bristol ; Beethoven, Bremen, for New York ; Ino, from Newcastle. Anchored off South Foreland, and will pass with next flood tide about noon.—The Gr a ft on , f rom St . J o h n ' s; Devonshire Trinidad ; Sagittarius, Anti gua ; M erry M ae and Corregio, Quebec • Grange. Pa.tras ; Acastus, Mar °ells. ; Poiti ers and Queen of r:heba, Pnrt Phillip ; Belle of the West Boston ; Minerva, Punta Arenas— all for London, vs Passed 26th.—C anda h ar, from L on d on, f or B e li ze; Bella rortina, Loudon Liverpool. Passed off D The barque Louisa, from Callao, for H ull. Dungeness.—The CHTNA..— According to the telegraphic MI p It n ' Bong yesterday afternoon, which reach 6 h to the t accounts from of June, the rnte of exchange has experienced onl . y a s alight declin e at Canton, while at Shanghai it rema a in ce without a lteration, the quotation at the formeri o _ bein g N. gild and at the latter 6s. Bd. Shipments ue f silver from tliin country are likely therefore to contin i _t .. especially as lard do t 881 it i id that the newly-coined f tea net pasfi current at Shanghai. The export o to date was Carolus c ol 73 , 9 00,0001 b , and • of silk 57,000 bales. New tea tnuiters were expected from Oonan in three weeks, but it was doubtful if there would be any from Oopack. The state of the tea districts was still unfa vonrable. From Calcutta the exchange by the present mail appears more favourable for this country. The aParmail steamer Douro, reported to have been lost on the acels, i s sa i d to have been got off with considerable dama ge. THE CHOLERA IN LONDON.—A death from cholera is reported in the case of a man named Saltine, residing Au Ducklersbury, who was carried off in a few hours after the commencement of the attack. Should the isolated cases, which are manifesting t hemselves. in various quarters, be exchanged for a general prevalence of this fearful visitation, the officials of the metropolitan hospitals, we are glad to say, will be found quite pre pared, extra wards having been fitted up, the means, o f remedial t reatment abundantly provided. THE HERO OF SCINDE. THE NAPIER TESTIMONIAL. On Saturday afternoon, the Committee of the Napier Testimonial assembled at the United Service Institution, • in Whitehall-yard, for the purpo-e of taking into con sideration the state of the funds at their command, and the amount of subscriptions still outstanding. Amoi , g those who were present were—theßi..fht Hon. the Earl of Ellen • borough, the Right Hon. the Earl of Harrington, Gene ' ral Aitchison, Lieut.-Colonel Kennedy, Captain Claxton,. R N., George Jones, Esq., R A., and several other gen . tleinett who have taken either an active part, or a lively interest, in the project of raising somewhere in the streets of our metropolis a suitable public monument to comme morate the late illustrious General Sir Charles James Napier, the heroic conqueror and administrator of Scinde, the glorious victor of Meannee and Pyderabad. The Earl of Ellenborough having been voted into the chair, the report of the joint secretaries, dated July 22. 1854, was then read by Colonel Kennedy. It proved to he a report in every re-pect, we are bound to say, eminently satisfactory. It showed that, notwithstand ing the suggestion circulated by the committee, recom mending that subscriptions should be restricted to small sums, yet the subscribers had been so numerous, and some of their contributions so liberal, that an amount has already been realised, amply sufficient, it is calcu lated, to raise a statue twelve feet high, namely, one of colossal dimensions. This, according to the estimates obtained—estimates of a reliable character, and provid ing, moreover, that the first class of artists that the country furnishes shall be employed in the design and erection of the monument. As illustrative of the satis factory operation of the principle of small subscriptions recommended, it may be well to give the following quo tation from Major Wynyard, Birmingham, when for warding his 10th list :—" In forwarding this last list likely to be sent from hence, a significant fact should be noted. The ten lists have contained, besides the contri butions of other classes, the unsolicited subscriptions of upwards of 1,600 pensioners from the Coventry, Glou cester, Northampton, North Stafford, Shrewsbury, and Wolverhampton districts, and in a period of great priva tion and high prices." It was next intimated by the report "That a simul taneous movement having been set on foot in India for the erection of a public testimonial in that country to the memory of the late Sir Charles Napier, it has not been deemed advisable to take any very active steps to bring the subscription list for the home monument before the Indian public." The grtsss amount of the subscription list reaches the large total of 2,7081. Os. sd. The amount actually paid into the bankers', 2,3991. 19s. Bd. Incidental expenses, 1171. 10s. 6d. The sum actually in bank, 2,2821. 9-. 2d. Altogether,. as already observed at the outset of the re port, it is estimated that a sufficient sum has even now been secured to the funds of the testimonial to supply the amount requisite for the raising a gigantic in. tal statue of the Hero of Scinde upon a huge granite pedes• tat. The report here adds—" That several subscribers and members of the committee have expressed an opi nion as to the eligibility of giving an additional record by the erection of a tomb, somewhat in accordance with the accompanying design, over the body in the Ports mouth churchyard ; but that the family desire to erect this tribute themselves, and measures are accordingly being taken for its execution." Finally, the Report said, "That a change having taken place in the organisation of the Scinde Camel Corps, the commander of that corps has forwarded the colours of that regiment, with a request that they may be placed in the Portsmouth Military Chapel, inserting under them a marble tablet, with t' - ‘e following inscrip tion, all of which has been executed according to his de- sire, viz. : " 'The standards waving above this tablet are conse crated to the memory of General Sir Charles Napier, G.C.8., the conqueror of Scinde, by whose genius the Scinde Camel Corps was formed. Happier than most con querors, he secured the affections of the vanquished by a wise and beneficent rule of that noble province which his valour and military skill bad won for his country. May his glorious name animate the breasts of British soldiers in the day of battle I' " So closed the report, with the signatures of J. P. Kennedy, Lieut -Colonel, and C. Claxton, Captain, R.N., as the joint secretaries. The following resolution was then proposed by J. G. JONES, Eqg , seconded by H. KENNEDY, Esq., and una nimously resolved— "That Messrs. Drummond, the Oriental, the Union, and any other bankers or individuals, who may have re ceived subscriptions, be authoiised and requested to pay to Messrs. Cox and Co. the balances now in their hands respectively, and any moneys that may hereafter be received by them, on account of the Napier Testimonial." Another resolution was then proposed by the Earl of HA.RBINGTON, seconded by Captain CLAXTON, and una nimously resolved— "That the Earl of Ellenborough, Lieut.-General Ait chison, and Colonel Kennedy, be appointed trustees of the funds, and that the signatures of two of them be sufficient for business transactions ; and that the trustees be autho rised and requested to invest the moneys subscribed in Government securities, as to them shall seem best." Subsequently a third (and final) resolution was pro posed by General AITCHISON, seconded by Lieut.-Colonel KENNEDY, and unanimously resolved— " That an executive sub-committee, composed of the following noblemen and gentlemen, be authorised to take such steps as they shall think desirable to obtain designs and estimates for a fitting statue of the late Lieut.-General Sir C. J. Napier. with a pedestal, to be erected in London ; and to obtain a desirable site upon which to erect the same, and finally to conclude such arrangements and bargains as they may think advisable for the speedy execution and erection of such pedestal and statue, and that three members of the executive committee shall form a quorum : His Grace the Duke of Richmond ; the Right Hon. the Earl of Ellenborough ; the lii,;ht Hon. the Earl of Her rington ; the Right Hon. the Earl of Devon ; General Lord Seaton, G.C.B. ; General Sir John F. Burgoyne, G.C.B. ; General Sir George D'Aquilar, K.C.B ; Geueral Aitchison • J. G. Philliruore, Esq., ili.P. ; George J 01113.4, Esq., R.A. ; H. A. Kennedy, Esq. ; the Joint Secretaries, Captain C. Claxton uud Lieut.-Colonel J. P. Kennedy. The committee then adjourned—everything being now satisfactorily arranged fur the speedy carrying out to a successful completion of this very noble and nit , tional testimonial. gUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY EYENXN(, JULY 26 1 leb4. ROYAL HIGIILAND SCIIOOI, SOCIETY. On Saturday last the Rev. Alexander Fletcher, D.D., accompanied by Mr. Mackie, secretary, had the honour of a conference with the Lord Archbishop of Canterbury, at Addington-park. The Lord Archbishop having been educated at the same college as the secretary, and other pleasing remi niscences, rendered the visit highly interesting, while his grace's reception of the venerable chaplain was no less cordial. But the chief object of the visit was to present th e mos t gra t e f u l th an k s of the society for his grace's late pious advocacy of one of the oldest mis sionary and educational institutions in the kingdom, having been incorporated by Royal charter in 1709 ; and to represent th e many diffi cu l t i es w hi c h , t h roug h his grace's kindness and condescension, had been so happily removed. Public dinners having become no longer a profitable medium fpr working a public benevolence, the secretary had endeav oure d t o prop i t i ate t h e advo cacy of the ministers of the gospel. Some, whose place it was to respond to his repeated solicitations, having declined, lie appealed to his grace, and, through his be nign example, several wort h y c l ergymen h ave s i nce readily consented to preach in behalf of the charity. The excellent prelate returned a most gracious answer, and the party retired, hi g hly d e li g ht e d w ith their re ception. Another clergyman, a visitor of Dr. Fletcher, was present at the interview, who was much moved by the courtesy and condescension of the highest dignitary in the Church, whose ui banity of manners has become a proverb in this country. On Sunday the Rev. A. Fletcher, D.D., preached in behalf of the institution in the Rev. R. Redpath's chapel, Wells•street, Oxford street, in the forenoon, to a highly respectable and attentive auditory, selecting for his text Proverbs xix. 2 " That the soul be without knowledge it is not good." In the course of his sermon be expatiated on the infinite worth of the soul, and the sublime importance of Bible education. He compared all the riches and treasures of the world, the wonders of creative genius, and the vast stores of wealth, all brought together, to the value of the soul of a ragged babe on the breast of a beggar; and he de clared that all the wealth of the world could not be taken in exchange fur that single soul. The Highland School Society had more than 12,000 juvenile immortals under their daily care, besides adult and Sabbath schools. From these had been sent out hundreds to every corner of the world, who bad been useful members of society. He drew no uncommon picture in mountain life when he described the joy of grandfathers, fathers, and other old people listening to the juvenile missionary reading the word of Divine Ttuth. The eloquent sermon of the worthy Doctor was followed by the Rev. Ranald Mac pherson, the minister of the Scots Church, Swallo street. who only a week or two since delivered two ser mons for the same benevolent purpose. Being a native of the Highlands, he gave a most in teresting account of the c oun t r y. He compared other charitable institutions which fed, clothed, .and educated children whose parents were in comfortable circum stances, many above the middle ranks, and those poor suffering children in the Highlands who were educated for less than ss. a-year. He deprecated the practice of converting those charities which were founded for the poor into seminaries for the rich, woo were sheltered in the asylums which rightfully belong to the`children of penury, who are left to wander about in rags, friendless, and destitute of any means of subsistence except by beggsry and theft. He had no wish to conceal such disgraceful facts. On whatever plea of custom, or of civil law, this perversion of the stream of charity is sought to be justified, it is, in reality, nothing better than a downright spoliation of the truly necessitous. It was the meanest and most atrocious crime that ever was perpetrated coolly and deliberately by men who were ceded by the name of Him who voluntarily became poor that by his poverty the needy might be enriched. He drew a line of demarcation betwixt such charities as the one for which be pleaded ; the smallness of the ex pense of education ; the poorly-paid but well-educated schoolmasters, whose salary averaged from 181. to 201.; and the provision for superannuated teachers, who, by age or infirmity, were incapable—the old men about 101., and the women about 81. But we cannot follow the rev, speaker at present ; it is probable his sermon will be preserved with that of Dr. Fletcher's by the secretary, as one of the many tri unaphs he has obtained over the secret enemies of this excellent society, if any such there be. - ARRIVALS FR OM A UST R LIA. --The Blackfriars, from Sydney, and the British Isles, from Hobart Town, are announced, but their quantity of gold, if any, has not yet been ascertained. PUBLIo•HOTASES ACT IN . , SCOTLAND—TIII?EAT lENE!) ASS.-11r1,T ON THE .MoRAT, FREEDOM OF THE CITIZEN IN ANGLAND.. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN, Sur,—Some short time back, one Forbes Mackenzie. then in Parliament as one of the members for Liverpool, but afterwards deprived of his seat on account of illegal practices at the election —i. e., bribing the electors with short drink—was successful in carrying through the House of Commons a bill which, among other.most oppressive enactments, closed against the public ail houses of enter taniment where beer or spirits are sold throughout the whole of Sunday. That a person so insignificant was able to effectuate such tyranny I should think surprised everybody —and must have surprised himself. I now notice that three members of the House of Commons, designated as Mr. Wilson Patten, Mr. Henley, arid Mr. Sotheron, have introduced into the branch of the Legis lature of which they are members a bill of much the same description, and that at the fag-end of the session. Several measures of great importance, announced in the speech of the Sovereign at the opening of Parliament, as the plan . for extending the franchise—a measure of transparent equity—have been abandoned or defeated. The restrictive, oppressive, and most insulting legisla tion•of the trio just named may,- however, be successful. Those parties I never, to my knowledge, heard of before ; buteven feebleness and unpopularity may work wonders in a case like the present. You may recollect that I addressed to you a denunciatory letter before the Mackenzie affair was perpetrated. Ido so again before Messrs. Patten [ and Co. have had time to earn the same success, and be crowned with the laurels of the same virtue as the ex- M.P. for Liverpool. The people of England are not so ready to submit to fanaticism as my countrymen, I am sorry to say, are ; and I trust that on this occasion they will stand forth to vindicate their fair fame as the steady supporters of civil and moral liberty. That the limited right existing at preient to procure refreshments such as beer on the Sabbath may be abused, and is abused, in a moral sense, I am sorry to be obliged to avow ; but the idea of punishing the community for the faults of some of its members is monstrous, and exemplified in any other case would at once arouse indignant opposition. The law, by an extreme stretch of its- power, punishes drunkenness ; it very properly arms the magistrates with authority to deprive of license publicans allowing, drunkenness on their premises ; it closes houses of entertainment during canonical hours on Sunday. Pre caution has, therefore, been carried to its extreme limits, and homage done to the public services of our holy reli gion.' Surely, in reason, this is quite enough. To de prive the poor man of, the means of refreshm en t on th e Sabbath because some get drunk, is a piece of prepos terous tyranny, and should at once be resisted in every constitutional way. Such legislation is extreme and unusual, and is utterly unwarranted by the mild, wise, and generous spirit Gf the Christian faith. In this country for many years every approach to sumptuary laws has most properly been avoided. What we shall eat or drink, or where withal we shall be clothed, has been wisely left to the individual conscience and to personal choice. Sump tuary laws are the parent of hand and hypocrisy, and tend to demoralise those more immediately employed in carrying out their provisions. In no country of the world was the Sabbath more rigidly observed than in Scotland; but during ages of that piety and virtue which, right or wrong, called forth the admiration of other na tions, such a thing was not thought of as preventing, under certain regulations, the sale on the Sabbath of the ordinary beverages of the country—so often employed even as cordials or adjuncts in numerous forms of ill ne,s. This transaction, indeed, was regarded as quite different from the traffic or cotntnerce which, lawful on other days, was forbidden on the day of rest. Laws of the kind under notice proceed on principles dangerous to the peace and welfare of society. If some crochetty, prejudiced, or hypocritical persons, without sympathy with the feelings or situation of others, be al lowed to add the force arid sanction of law to their va g.ines the dearest rights of the citizen are perilled. At a former period tyranny was directed against religious liberty; its work is now against moral freedom, and it can here operate most successfully. Such evil ordinations tend to prejudice the citizen against the laws of his country-, to render the administration of public justice obnoxious —or, as before suggested, depraved. Either the statutes which are of such a character are not enforced, and are, therefore, held to be null and void by an authority lower than that by which they were passed, or, being carried out, are likely to attract public sympathy towards the offender, and that from persons otherwise excellent citi zens and loyal subjects. This is a bad, an unhappy state of matters, and statesmen and senators should eschew what causes the impressions and convictions to which it is owing. Let the people of England recollect, too, that if the bill by which they are now menaced be passed into law it will remain unalterable. In cases of the kind, unlike what Obtains in [natters of a political or religious nature, there cannot be secured such a pressure from without as will secure the repeal of even a most unjust and oppressive statute. A large number of the people are timid, and cannot encounter the invectives of fanaticism; numbers conceal their real sentiments on such subjects ; and many well-meaning persons, substantially impressed with the sentiment that the opposite of wrong is right, are willing to allow of certain severities in order to ex tinguish obvious evils ; forgetting all the while that the vice they deplore may only be more secretly and more dangerously practical, while great social rights may be invaded or overthrown altogether. There are other good things to be seeured besides sobriety, and other evils to be dreaded besides drunkenness. It is not the abuse, but the use, of moral liberty which here and else where is to be reasoned from. Since the passing of Forbes Mackenzie's bill we have had strange work here. The police, of course, are con verted into a set of spies on the licensed victuallers, and one poor woman, who keeps a public-house at Porto bello, a watering place, about two wiles from the city of, Edinburgh, is under prosecution for selling some liquor to two persons who came from a distance, and alleged they were travellers. Numerous prosecutions have been directed against publicans for contraventions of the sta tute. Hotels, as well as humbler places' of entertain. ment, are open to the inr oa d s o f th e po li ce. A c i tizen without family cannot even get a dinner in an inn as before. In Aberdeen, however, the police commissioners refuse to allow their constables to be transformed into teetotal spies, and the new law is, in the meantime, at a stand still'in the "city of bon accord." In some places the abstainers have formed committees of vigilance, to see that the law is enforced. One of those impudent harpies entered a public-house in Dumbarton, along with a local policeman. He was very properly ordered to leave the premises by the landlord. He refused, and an attempt was made to eject him, but so violently did this man of temperance conduct himself even before the officer that the life of the publican was placed in peril. This outrage is to become the subject of a trial in the jury court here, the damages being laid at a heavy sum. Of course the partizans of the bill are loud in its praise, and some of our journals merely pander to the views of these men. All manner of stories are put afloat through the press, and strange theories suggested as to the effect of the new legislation, and the walls are posted over with abstinence placards of the type common to the school. Some "Alliance," too, is mentioned, and a " Maine Liquor Law" is urged and lectured about. What the Absta.ners lack in number they labour to make up by activity and forwardnehs. There is not wanting, also, a sufficient stock of impudence on the part of their allies of the journals I might ask the managers of the Eng lish restrictive and penal bill this question—Has any Scotsman, Forbes Mackenzie. or a limb of the law, a noted Teetotaller in Edinbu, gh, had communication with you, or leave others of the same class and aims interfered, or have abstinence people in England urged you to your present enterprise ? The interpellation is important, for in the bill under notice we may have but the result of a factious intermeddling with the conscience and the rights of others. if they had the p ower , wou ld shut up the persons o n n ee s d scarcely who,say to you, sir, that here there are highways on the Sabbath, and exclude the citizens from the green fields—and prevent a journey even of necessity or mercy on the Christian•day of rejoicing and of rest. I may tell you we have some very high purists in the Town Council of the city, to whom the bill of the afore named Forbes Mckenzie was highly acceptable. The Provost (or mayor), a cold-hearted canting member of one of our strictest sects, is at great pains (somewhat un necessarily) to prove what he wyrisiders the issues of that wild:and tyrannous measure. Well, a proposal was made in the Council to open the Botanical Gardens near the city— be it recollected when —only after FOUR in the afternoon of the Sabbath ! This measure of concession was resisted by the Lord Provost, and also by others of the voluntary school, who, hostile to the powers of the civil niagistvate in matters of religion, have no Brea; ob jection to exercise a part of the obnoxious prerbgative so that it embodies itself in their own carcases. The motion was defeated by a majority of 13 against 9, one member declining to vote. So much for the bland liberality of the Edinburgh Town Council. I may men tion that in Glasgow, containing a larger population than Edinburgh, and numbering vastly more of .the sons of toil, the Botanical Gardens are shut through out the whole of the Sabbath ; and, were it in the power of some parties, a cordon would be drawn around Glasgow Green. I am deeply anxious that all able should attend the services of our holy reli gion. Rightly understood, the ways of Christianity are pleasantness, and her paths are peace. But I see nothing to hinder a man's recreation on the Christian jubi lee —nor, the sin . of drunkenness strictly avoided, the refreshment of the body by means of a moderate quan tity of the ordinary beverages of the country. lam not the less confident in these views, from knowing that the ferocious zeal which characterises certain parties against what is called Sabbath-breaking and drain -drinking at times exemplifies itself in those whose small stock of religion is made up of little else than this furor. I could tell you strange stories as to this part of my subject, but rather choose to forbear. More than I could do the same. I will not at present draw mere largely on your indulgence ; but trustn:g that the people of England will now as hitherto guard and protect their moral as well as civil rights, I beg to subscribe myself, Sir, your obliged and obedient servant, SAUNDERS FITZSAIJNDERS, Edinburgh, July. P.S. May I respectfully beg that the editors of other journals iito theirNoVtil(, on Cloiun n püblic s. ed at this let teract—however humble and imperfect the communication —than would avow their feelings of approval and sym pathy. MADAME TUSSAUD'S EXHIBITION.--ThiB popular ex hibition has ju t had an important addition—it is a nor -trait model of hcr Majesty the Queen of Spain, and in consequence of the stirring events' from day to day passing in her kingdom, great curiosity is felt and ex pressed by the numerous visitors who crowd this most excellent place of instruction and amusement. I L LidAL PA I tLIAMENT HOUSE OF LORDS-(YESTERDAY.) AIEDICAL GRMY(T..kIPES (LONDON UNIVER- SIT BILL Lord MONTEAGLE Y) moved the second reading of this a short explanation of its ob)ects, which have already been fully reported. The Duke of ARGYLL approved of the principles of the bill, but feared. that it would settle the grievances of the profession in a partial manner. At preser:t licen tiates of the medical schools of Edinburgh and Glasgow were prevented practising in England, and their case was not provided for by this bill. It was quite clear that thiv exclusion could not be preserved, but that in any general measure of medical reform we must have free trade in doctors as well as anything else. Pending that measu re , h e would confine the privileges conferred on graduates of London, to a removal of thy penalties respecting vaccination and lunacy, which were provided for by the second clause. He begged to remind the house that this bill, although supported in the other house by Lord Palmerston and Lord. J. Russell, was by no means to be considered as a Government measure. He moved that the object of ths bill be confined to re moving the pains and penalties inflicted for practising in vaccination and lunacy cases. Lord CAMPBELL asserted the claims of the Scotch universities, bUt was willing to accept the compromise proposed by the noble duke, pending a general measure of medical reform. Lord MONTEA GLE replied. Lord BROUGLIA.M. defended the bill, as being only a just following up of the charter upon which the Uni versity of London was founded. After a short discussion the bill Was read a second time, with the understanding that the Duke of Argyll's suggestion should be considered in committee. POOR LAW CONTINUANCE (IRELAND) BILL. This bill was read a third time and passed. HERITABLE SECURITIES (SCOTLAND) BILL. This bill passed through committee. JUDGMENT EXECUTION BILL. This bill was read a second time. NATIONAL GALLERY (DUBLIN) BILL. Tr.b bill went through committee, and was reported. posrAL ARRANGEMENTS, IRELAND. The Kiri of DONOUGHMORE rose to call attention to the state of postal communication in Ireland. He stated the fact to be, that since the establishment of rail ways in Ireland, there was less postal accommodation than before. Viscount CANNING could assure the noble earl that the Government, both then and at all times, were quite ready to make any improvements which were needed. He could assure that house that the Post-office authori ties were most anxious that justice should be done to the commercial connnunity of the sister country. After a few words from Lord MONTICAGLE, the sub ject dropped. Their lordships then adjourned. HOUSE OF OOMMONS(YESTERDAY.) The house resumed at six o'clock. QUEEN'S MESSAGE.—ADJOURNED DEBATE. Mr. BOtJVERIE having brought up the report of sup ply on the vote of credit. On the question that the resolution be read a second time, Lord D. STUART rose to move the addition of the fol lowing amendment, of which he had given notice : "That an humble address be presented to her Majesty, to return her Majesty the thanks of this house for her most gracious message, and to assure her Majesty, that her Ma jesty, deeming it expedient to provide for any additional expense which may arise in consequence of the war in which her Majesty is now engaged against the Emperor of Russia, may fully rely on the cheerful zeal and constant affection of her faithful C.nninous, aad to assure her Ma jesty that they most readily do make provision according to her Majesty's wishes, and humbly to pray, that her Majesty will be graciou s ly pl ease d no t to prorogue her Par liament until she shall h ave b een ena bled to aff o rd t o this house more full information with respect both to her Ma jesty's relations with foreign powers, and to her views and prospects in the contest in which her Majesty is engaged." He had stated hist night that he thought it desirable such a motion should be made, and the occurrences of last night had convinced him that such a motion was now not only desirable, but necessary. Probably the annals of Par liament did not record a I,imilar occurrence to that which the house witnessed with astonishment last night, when the loader of the Government in that house came down on a Polemn occasion, and not in the heat of contro versy, and not in reply to observations made by his opponents, but deliberately made an exposition of the policy of the Government—of the objects which they pro. posed to attain in the present war—and then, not after the lapse of any length of time, but almost within the same hour, contradicted what he had said before, and gave an explanation which was understood by the house to be a retractation. (Cries of " No, no.") It was an explana tion so different from the former statement of the noble lord, that he knew no word by which to describe it except " retractation." It appeared that almost every one in the house had understood the noble lord as he had been under stood by the right hon. member for Bucks, the leader of the opposition. (Cries of " No.") He did not hesitate to say that such was the general understanding, and on look ing to the usual source of information in matters of that kind, he found that by all of them tilie noble lord was un derstood in the same manner. He found from the report in an organ that favoured the Government, that the noble lord said-- Lord J. RUSSELL—Name. Lord D. STUART—The Times_ (Calls of "Order.") n which journal, favoured the Government. The noble lord was We11, i h A ee would l o d u t t i t k ) f e order report e i p n . r r t e t o *, r erring another by name oeg to that The establishment of in thereeq uallywh ic h t h reportede position t o have said i d . i t : u — s s ' i ` a ißuts menacingthere to another tbe mode inde pendence and integrity of Turkey. a great fortress prepared with all the combination of art and science, made as impregnable : is it is possible for art and mien as to snake it, and containis sg within its port a very large fleet of line-of-battle ships, re lady at any moment to comedown with a favourable wind ~ to the Bosphorus—that I consider is a position so menaciing to Turkey that no treaty of peace could be considered safe which left the Em peror of Russia in that same tuenacis sg position with respect . to Turkey." (Cheers) His friends had cheered that quota tion very much. They were delighted: with it, and so was he. He hail cheered the declaration of the noble lord as loudly as any one; but did the noble lord stand by it on its being repeated? The noble lord afterwas els got up and said that he had made use of no :inch expressiions. (Cries of "No, no," and " Hear, hear.") The nobl e lord said, " What I said was that I thought Russia could not be allowed to maintain the menacing attitude wh lob she has lately done by keeping so large a fleet at Sebas topol." (Hear.) Was the declaration the same? (Hear.) Did the hon. gentle man. perceive no discrepancy between them ? According to the latter explanation, if Russi a were to reduce her Black Sea fleet to one -or two sail of the line, that would bring her within the terms of the latter explanation. How the noble lord ha-I come to diminish. his declaration to that extent it was not for him to explains. It would seem to an impartial spectator as if the noble lord had received some communication from some of his colleagues either in that house or in another place—perhaps from the noble earl at the head of the Government, or per haps the noble lord hail a o e i n n i g o . n i ii n h t a h t e a h fi a r s w t e i ( n i s t n t a e n re c e t , h t a h n a e t v it e 17 m t i h g a h t t t n h o e t y be altogether after h av i ng spoken out his sensible, bold, manly in harmony w ith th e opinions of those with whom he was —not even in agreement with that: nselves, but vacillating and distract e d i n th e i r councils. (He tar.) It a ed now by men w h o were not in accordance withone another pp w ea e r r e e d go to v h er i n u l): that though, some of them lord he believed was one —of carrying on the war with a others who desired nothing so vigour suited to the great objects to be attained, there were a conclusion, no matter on what terms. He believed that the countsy were generally might be desirous—the noble easily have been prevented if there had been at the head of the Government a man of capacity, firmness, and reso lutions f m e n i h m. s n t t o ha b t r t i bring the war war mightto Intion, who would not have bison afraid to meet the designs of the Czar by bold and determined language. His belief was that if such language lead been used the Czar would never have made that aggression in Turkey, which, having been made, had neces sarily led to resistance and to but his measures to war. If they hail had any other minister than Lord Aber rtlianthLisoroXiAniboeardeen was sincere in his desire i t a h e e v o i a ta p b ac le ity of averting it his pusillanimous conduct, un ister of a gre_at con l d never have it taken had f place.ai lfulled, Aber deen oHn e oe e dpr n btriheen t ylv h sieet e tenvha w tee:t a iumo, afirn, Re could not, therefore, a• minister who, besides , hag taken the wrong course a. , -..ad. failed in the means he I had adopted. He believed that the country, hail rendered the People felt that those had not the sagacity t„ , . z.arceive i ange , I r in the the capacity to meet it it came near. That opinion was supported by facts. when . feel pe a .s r o n n n e s y c e w r s e s h s a o p r e y c t a nf for .1. . • A belief had sprung h, but no results had up that the Govern meat wished to saddle the country W i th _ e Gb l e i re s e t na a t n p c ar e orm w ina ci tm r e e den. n t o s t h l a i c k i e h ly een to s h e. n ay t e fort a maximum of ex pense, and with a minimum of r.esalts, in order to disgust them with the war. Our fleet in the' in had captured some tar, and seine exploits had been affected of a gallant nature, but what victories could we boast of that were a Some lives st a s it ? n i g sf h a t iat t os n ar ha n v o e atnla Karleby, chiefly because the fleet had not been provided with vessels of a small draught of water. In the_ Black Sea Odessa had hadlike I b y o t o o n have lost i n a vessels of shal . we had ultffaktieeresni decisive ii v p icee o setshfrease:itoonofilGot: the ewh f o r t s a t the been half bombarded ; and—what was D B a l I n ft u w b t e he te_ hads these e. hags r thins d i g h t h T he righ t r u o e i I u c t i o n of the des doubt 1 1 b n : o we u n t h de ffroaefue the Danube. loiiniz tho 3 ago. vented the Russians crossing he anube. he righ hon. baronet the Fret Lord of the Ain:arena, had made a grandiloquent statement of a convoy of twelVe transports, ' W rn hi a c r h e than four had been cibumt utnnettipo patch showed that these twelve transports were miserable laden taken f withr o coasters that hel been pickd up from time to time by our I th p e ro n vi a si s o s n ia s ns an ; munitons of war was oatmeal. (A laugh.) The result was discontent cruisers; to otl each t ; h a a n t dtheira that crew swhat didiia had been o tave r e a a g l e l e d among our forces. We had not marched our troops to the his ability as a assistance of Oiner Pasha ; and at the present mosuegiestntehraely, were stopped at Varna for want of the means of transport. The only satisfactory achievement in the wa as by the and d rk t s h . e O Turksn er P t a i s i o il i e r had oo r s a h g o o wn as The arrogant Russians, who talked of driving the Turks before them like chaff, bud of taking a military promenade to Constan tinople, had been bold enough in affairs like Sinop°, or against a disabled steamer stranded on their coast, but had been ignominiously defeated by the barbarian troops of that power which the Czar talked of as moribund. No one last year would have dared to prophesy that Russia would in 1851 be driven across the Danube by the Turkish troops, unassisted by their allies. Yet such was the fact. Of late the noble earl at the head of the Government had "experienced the talked of carrying on the war with the concurrence of "other mr e h p a o d w powers." t . France and the "other powers." He wished to know what Perhaps Aus tria and Prussia were referred to. What assistance had Awuasstiiiii.eaanretnblyerethde -two()rudsB? hostility of Prussia; true, but that was all that could be said of her. A treaty had been concluded between Austria and the Porte; hut why had Austria not entered the Prinuipalities? They had been told that Aestria would dive the Russians out of the Principelities, hut the Russians had' not retired, and were preparing to defend themselves. What was meant then by the use of such words, when Austria had not declared war. E thing had been d o n e t o conc i l i ate Austria. It had very eve been the policy o f th e E arl of A b erdeen to conciliate Aus• r tile, and to look to Austria as if Anetriut ought to be the guide to British eeuticils. It wee in reference to such a disoosizien, that the noble heal the Home Secretary, now a collaague of the Earl of Aberdeen, untie use of the re markable expression, in speaking of that noble earl, that the country WfIS guided by the counsels of antiquated imbecility. When the war 'broke out, it vvits proposed to enrol-a body of Poles in the Turkish sae-vice. He believed the noble lord the Homo Secretary approval of that pro posal, but it had been laid aside for giving offence to Aus tria, though it now appeared that Austria did not object to it. It would no doubt be a great advantage to have Austria on our side. Let the allied forees since attack Sebastopol, as the noble lord talked of their doing , and they would soon fi n d A ustr i a on the i r side. (Hear, hear.) But so long as the troops of Russia were able td set at de fiance the allied forces of England and France, so long would Austria be unwilling to declare war against her Now, the hon. member for the West Riding, who in speak ing of him had used the expression of " his hon. and de luded friend," but in whose case he might return the com pliment by calling him his hon. and philo-Russian friend, had observe i th it the coutest ie which we were now engaged was nut one favourable to the cause of oppressed nationali ties. But was not the Emperor of Russia one of the great est enemies of nationality? Had not he crushed the liberties of Poland and of Hungary, and would it not be desirable that that arch-enemy of freedom should as far as possible be humbled? His hon. friend had spoken of crum pling up Russia, but he (Lord D. Stuart) could not see that we had as yet succeeded in making any impression whatever upon that power. Such being the position of affairs, after four months of war, a general distrust of the honesty and energy of the Government in prosecuting hostilities had begun to spread throughout the country. The people of England had begun to entertain fears that wa may even be hurried into some ignominious, unstable, and unsafe peace; and that the House of Commons may- com bine with the Government for that end by permitting the war to be carried on, as haul hitherto been the case, with out vigour or energy. Under these circuaistances be had thought it proper to take the course which he had that evening adopted, and for that course he might observe that he haul the authority of precedent. A motion similar to that which he had submitted to the house hail been made by Mr. Dunning in the year 17SO, by Mr. Erskine in 1783, and by Mr. C. Grey, afterwards Earl Grey, in 1805. The noble lord concluded by making the motion of which he had given notice. Mr. S. HERBERT said the noble lord who had just sat down had concluded his speech by referring to precedents, in order to justify the course which he had that evening thought it desirable to adopt. Upon the ground of prece dent he had no complaint to make of the noble lord. Simi lar motions had been made upon questions of natures the most diverse; but they were distinguished from that of the noble lord by the peculiarity that they bad been brought forward by opponents of the Government as a direct cen sure upon its acts,. and as an expression of want of confi dence in its administration of affairs. He could only say, that if the noble lord had that evening thrown clown a chal lenge, the Government were ready to take it up—to offer the noble lord battle upon his own terms, and to abide by that decision at which, with respect to their conduct of the war, the House of Commons—the representative of the opinions of the country—might arrive. Before he pro ceeded, however, to deal with the speech of the noble lord, he should wish to offer a few observations to the house with reference to some statements which in the discussion of the evening previous had been made by the hon. mem ber for Aylesbury (Mr. Layard). That hon. gentleman, having made some quotations from a letter which he said he had received from the East, bad gone on to remark that the Duke of Wellington having complained very loudly at the commencement of the Peninsular war af the great des ficrency which existed in the organisation of the commis sariat department, had, by the application of the high ad mMistrative ability which he possessed, brought that de partment to a state of the utmost perfection towards the conclusion of the campaign. But the hon. gentleman had gone further, and observed that the admirable system which had been framed under the Duke of Wellington had at the conclusion of the late war been suddenly altered, if not completely abolished ; so that the fruits of the Duke of Wellington's labours bail been lost to the country. Where the hon. member had found the materials upon which to base that statement, ho (Mr. S. Heriiert) could not say ; but, in reply to the hon. member, he should simply state that that system which the Duke of Welling. ton had succeeded iu bringing to perfection towards the end of the war still continued to remaiu unchanged. It was true that in England the commissariat had beau alto gether abolished, but the system of the Duke of Welling ton had been maintained throughoui our colonies exactly upon the same footing as that upon which that illus trious personage had placed it. The only change, in fact, that haul been made in connection with the sub ject had consisted in substituting for the head of the commissariat department a responsible minister of the Crown—a change which had been deemed necessary for the welfare of the service and the interests of the country. The person whom the Government had selected to conduct the affairs of that department was Mr. Commissary-General Fielder, who had served under the Duke of Wellington, and in whom the greatest confidence had ever been placed by his distinguished chief. So far, therefore, from the system of the Duke of Wellington having been upset, that system had been, as he had shown, maintained in full vigour. " But," said the hon. member for Aylesbury, " you sent out last autumn to Turkey a gentleman connected with the commissariat for the purpose of proeuring information, and all that he has done has been to write au essay on the manners and customs of the inhabitants of that country." Now, the observations of the honourable gentleman tended to induce the house to believe that the pamphlet which had been written by the gentletna's in question treated of every subject rather than that with re spect to which it was desirable that information should be procured. He (Mr. S. Herbert) should, however, merely quote, in reply to thestatemeutof thehon. member some of the marginal heads, indicating the subject matter contained in the several paragraphs of the pamphlet. They were as follows :—" Supply of food," Price of sheep," " Where to be found," What are the best ' means of transport," " What weight you can put upon a camel," " What weight upon an ass," &c. ler short, there was contained in the work in question a variety of the most minute details with respect to subjects; upon which the heads of the commissariat might desire to obtain in formation ; and he believed that the pamphlet had been submitted to the hon. member for Aylesbury himself, and that he haul been kind enough to make some corrections in it, with the view of making it useful to those engaged in the public service. But the hon. member had further said, '`You sent out only one man for the purpose of procuring the necessary information." His (Mr. S. Herbert s) answer to that statement was, that eight or nine persons had been sent with that view, and that one gentleman had been ordered to put himself in communication with Mr. Cal vert, the very individual who was best fitted to give such information as might he required. The hon. member had made those statements, relying upon the truth of letters which he had received from persons who in maay instances were not themselves upon the spot, but who merely re ported the rumours which reached them, and whose asser tions were believed to be correct, because they were made by individuals residing in the country where the circum stances narrated in those letters were supposed to have occurred. He should give an instance in corroboration of the accuracy of his opinion upon that subject. It had been stated by a gentleman connected with the Ordnance De partment, who haul taken occasion to cast blame upon the conduct of that department, that we had sent out a large number of 6-pounders. But, with the exception of the Case of the Horse Artillery, would the house believe that no such thing as a 6-pounder had been sent out at all ; upon the contrary, 9-pounders only had been transmitted to the seat of war. He maintained, therefore, that we should be extremely careful before we agreed to accept statements coming from abroad as positively correct. The hon. member for Aylesbury had also referred to the medical department ; but he (Mr. S. Herbert) must say, that if that and the commissariat depart ment were so greatly neglected as they wore repre sented to be, he was at a loss to account for the extremely good health which prevailed among the troops in the East. Taking the whole of tee army into account, there were in hospital bat four per cent. out of the number, and out of that 4 per cent. nearly one-third were under treatment for diseases which could not be said to have been contracted in consequence of any deficiency in the commissariat arrangement, but to which men were as liable in the streets of London as iii the field. At the pre sent moment, in short, the health of our troops at Varna was quite as good as the health of the army in any part of England. (Hear, hear.) There were, however, he might observe, certain situations in whi c h troops n.ight be placed, in whichi no care or providence, no matter how great, could keep them in good health. The hon. member for Aylesbury had, among other alines, contrasted the arrange ments made for the comfort and efficiency of our troops with those which haul been made upon the ,part of the French Government with reference to their army. Now, there could be no doubt that those two great armies, both of them equipped iu the best possible wanner, must have much to learn one from the other—(hear, hear)- —nor could he state that no fault had been committed in fitting out our troops. He was not such a pedant as to suppose that, in a case in which the greatest expedition was necessary, everything had been done in the most perfect manner. (Hear, hear.) Sir W. Napier—a great authority upon such matters—had observed that mistakes upon such occa sions were the rule, and not the exception. He might, however, state with reference to the subject, that every effort had been used to fit out oar troops in the best man mer possible, and that the arrangements connected with our expedition to the East might be favourably contrasted with those of any similar movement. He should, with the permission of the house, real a letter from one of the very ablest paymasters in the service, which was dated the 29th of Juno, 1851. The writer, in alluding to the English and French, expressed himself as follows : " I am happy to say that a most excellent feeling exists. Our army is well fed, and there is not the shadowof , a complaint; the supplies sent out by the Government hae been a great boon, and are highly appreciated; the y are all good of their kind, and, as Lord Raglan has most judi ciously put the issue under regimental arrangements, the most perfect confidence and satisfaction has been the resu lt es, of the arrangements. Had it been through other chan nel s, the regimental authorities would not have bee n so are, rested in the goo working of the system, and th e m en . moreover, more satisfied to be dealt with regimental ly; the complaint can be remedied, if there should be one, without going further—indeed, all works well." He should also r ad other lett Ts from persons, who, in consequence of the positions which they i'c army, had the best means of becoming ouracqcunied in the officersinted with the events !which were taking place. One of wrote to the following effect : "No one can believe, who has not see n it, of what value tl, e troops. I am Chobhain encauipmeut has proved to . a oggoroecto quite sure the health of the troops in isgiennearar of owing to the knowledge, now be p eo , : ha, g 3 most intelligent system of encamping. m in, with whom we co?ugtumn3ti'l'iicat‘e on all the quartering of , i h s a o s frequently told us he the army in and near Scutari , little illness, and that could not conceive why we hat. no Turks could have remained on the Scutari Hill so long in camp with impunity. We ca n on l y answer h im that he should see the care and attention of our officers, and the ad vantage of our white cap c . overs over the s enseless fez w hi ch his people persist in wearing on their heads, with no pro tection for the eyes or back of the head, and h e would learn the true cause of the difference between us. General Forey called here yesterday to see the barracks, the 95th happened to be parauling in th_eirtfatigue froeks, which he much admired. I aske d to wheel them into line, pleased that he General Furey beiug so which and it mail in the regiment asked for two or three moveine its, executed a dmirably. I am always g l a d they should see what our inter ior really is, and bow littl e we do for show." He should trouble the house with only one other letter, which had been written by a man whose chat meter must secure for his words a respectful consideration. In refer ring to the opinions which the French officers had formed of our troops, the manner in which they were equipped, enca mped, and fed, the writer said— " Seeing the abuse that is lavished upon every branch of the British army, and that we are told all thy long that the arrangements and equipments of the French army are i a every w ,erior, I was surprised to hinl that we we!e) viewed in a al'erent light by officers of experience in another service, and that justice which is denied to us by many of our own countrymen is really conceded to us by foreie ' ners." He had gon e i n t o those details, being of opinion that he was in no small degree responsible for the manner in which our troops had been equipped, and he felt assured that the house would extend.to:lim its pardon for having. entered ateuch length iutsetepies which weee not. itutnqdia t alY con nected with the question under their notice. (Cheers.) Passing from these details, he wished to know whether it was true—as had been asserted by the hon. member for the West Riding and by the noble lord who had just spoken— that, although a powerful armament had been sent to the East, yet that no great results had thereby been up to the present moment achieved, and that our armies had won no laurels? War hail been declared upon the 29th of March, and the noble lord seemed to be astonished that Russia bad not been " crumpled up" in the four months which had since elapsed. That consummation hail not been attained ; but was it right to say that nothing whatever had during those four months been effected ? An hon. gentleman stated last night that a great number of accidents had taken place in connection with the expedition to the East, and that we had succeeded in monopolising more than our share of those accidents. Our troops have certainly been subjected to casualties in the course of the operations which in the north and south of Europe we have been em ralodyed beenin d c e a s r t r r y o i y n e g o h u y t . fire re The as s T h i e g e w r had C o b n e v e e n y l i O n s g t — a a p o s r vessel f however alludingo the ve s r o it c , l o, i n e tg r h s a that flthemightss b he fi e t t hhDragoon might hteio s np eo t r o fm t t i thhteee d Eataros—t say, you,: dethat brilliant the actions which in its progress might take piece —no man's name wou ld b e more honouredby Englishmen than that of the gallant office r , w h o, with none of the glorious excitement of the battle -field to excite him to the performance of heroic deeds, faced in cold blood death in its most frightful shape in order to save the lives of those whom he commanded, and who, notwithstanding the soli citations of his own soldiers, refused to leave the sinking ship while one living soul remained on board her to receive his generous aid. (Loud cheers.) It was also true that grievous casualties had occurred in the Baltic —that a boat's crew had been sacrificed in the endeavour to cut out from beneath the enemy's batteries the enemy's ships. however, such events as those were subjects for regret, we should bear in mind the spirit and the gallantry which they had evoked. (Cheers.) If it were true that the cou rage of our seamen amounted almost to foolhardiness, we should not forget that the great renown of the British navy had been acquired by a series of exploits such as those to which he had just been adverting; and, instead of giving way to useless regrets, we should rejoice that that spirit, whos e man if es t a ti on had raised this country to the summit of fame as a naval power, still continued to exist, brilliant and unchangeable. (Renewed cheering.) But in answer to the statement that no practical result had as yet been brought about by British arms in the present con test, he would ask, was it nothing to have established in four months a complete, an effectual, and an irresistible blockade of the enemy's ports? Those gentlemen who spoke lightly upon that subject seemed to forget that one half the lifetime of the gallant Nelson had been passed in maintaining a blockade. (Hear, hear.) If the country expected that we ought to hear at once of vic tory following victory over an enemy who dared not meet our fle.te, why, then, the country expected the performance of impossibilities from those gallant sea l' men who had already demonstrated that want of courage or want of enterprise formed no part of the reason why these results had, up to the present moment, not been attained. (Cheers.). But has nothing else except the institution of a blockade been effected in the Black Sea? How many pounds sterling, he would ask, had been spent by Russia during the last quarter of a century in erecting along the shores of Circassia those forts which constituted the chains by which she had kept the Cir cassians in thraldom ? All these forts had fallen into our hands. Mr. LAYARD—They were abandoned by Russia. Mr. S. HERBERT continued—The hon. member did not seem satisfied with the fact that we had it all our own way. (A. laugh.) It was said that the people of England liked to hear of a good battle, and of the sacrifice to a vast extent of human life. That, however, was not, he be lieved, the general feeling of the English people, and he felt assured that they rejoiced to find that these fortresses on the coast of Circassia had fallen into our hands without the loss of a single man, with an account of whose fall the pages of the Gazette might be adorned. But had nothing more been effected? The noble lord the member for Marylebone had stated that the Turks had manifested the greatest courage and fortitude and skill in the present contest, bat it was a matter of astonishment to all Europe that armies so small as theirs had not only maintained their position, but achieved great successes against overwhelming numbers. Such was the fact; but had th it result been attained solely and entirely by the forces of Turkey ? Had the Russian armies no enemies but the soldiers of the Sultan to encounter? Was it nothing to have wrested from the Russians those means of communication by which they were enabled to supply the troops with provisions? Hail the closing up of the Black Sea no share in producing results so favourable to Turkey ? He was not aware whether the noble lord had studied the history of the present campaign, or whether he had observed the manner in which its operations had been carried out? At the present moment the Danube, Sebastopol, and, in fact, the whole coast of Russia on the Black Sea was blockaded. No provisions, no ammunition could be conveyed to her armies save by land across the full extent of Bessarabia ; and he had been informed that when provisions were being transported by land for the Russian troops, the air became tainted by the putridity, in consequenc,i, no doubt, of the length of time occupied in transmitting. them to their destination. The Russian Government had been compelled to resort, in order to provision their army, to the use of small carts drawn by bullocks, in a country where the roads were extremely bad, and where the distance to be traversed was ao great that by the time the carts arrived at the camp the bullocks themselves had consumed nearly all the grain, and were reduced to a condition so lean as to render them unfit for human food. Now these, he would venture to say, were no trifling results, although they might partake of none of that brilliancy by which some hon. members wished all our movements to be characterised. (Hear.) But he should likewise say that Englishmen might cl rim some share in the defence of Silistria through that young man (hear, hear)—Captain Butler, or Major Butler, as he should like to call him, although he had neverheard of his promotion, or of his having been placed by her Majesty in the Guards. (Hear, hear.) He said th a t y oung I r i s h man —(hear,hear)—di s pl a y e d during that siege qualities which marked him out for certain eminence—not merely dogged courage, but likewise a remarkable power of command. He, a stranger, accompanied by another young officer, having gone to a strange town, although not speaking the Turkish language, had by his energy and determination so imposed on the men by whom he had been surrounded, that, in point of fact, he had almost had the command of that garrison. It was by the pertinacity and energy with which be had pressed his councils on them, that the sur render of the external forts, which formed the keys of Silistria, had been prevented, and that that glorious suc cess had been accomplished. (Cheers.) The noble lord said that he had no confidence in the Government. We (continued Mr. Herbert) meet him fairly upon that issue. (Hear We are called a ministry on sufferance • and it is true that, feeling the d ee p respons ibili ty which lay on us, and the necessity after having entered on this war of put ting the country in a position, financially and strategeti calry, which should enable it to urge the war with success, we felt, unsupported as we were by the Louse on domestic measures, that it was our duty to continue to hold the reins of office. We have been met by contumely and in sult, but it is for the House of Commons to decide this question. If the house does not choose to have a govern ment on suffsrance, and if we do not choose to be &govern ment on sufferance, let the house manfully and explicitly declare its opinions upon that head. We are prepared to abide, as we do abide with confidence, on the decision to which they might come. (The right hon. gentleman re sumed his seat amidst considerable cheering.) Mr. LAYA.RD insisted that the construction put by the house upon the words of Lord John Russell, on the pre vious evening, with respect to the menacing position of Sebastopol, was the correct one. The general inspresion was that nothing short of the destruction of that fortress would be satisfactory to the Government; but when the noble lord came to explain his meaning it appeared that all that was meant was that Russia was not to be allowed to have so large a fleet at Sebastopol. The object of Aus trig was clearly to drive Russia from the principalities, and nothing more, and it was much to be f eare d th a t i n th a t policy England would become entangled. It was a great error to count upon the alliance of Austria at all; but looking at home he had great confidence in Lord John Russell, but none whatever in the Earl of Aberdeen. Mr. WILKINSON contended for the identity of the two statements of Lord John Russell. Colonel DUNNE deprecated the delays which had taken place in the advance of the allied armies. Admiral BERKELEY repelled the charge of unneces sary delay, and denied that the Government had at all tied up the hands of Admiral Napier in the Baltic. The fact that nothing great had been as yet attempted was to be attributed to the formidable nature of the fortifications. Mr. F. SCULLY defended the Earl of Aberdeen and the Government. Sir J. SHELLEY said that a strong feeling of distrust pervaded d e e nand t h h e e coCuouldntorynlywivtihe view respect amendmentto the Ea a t 1 8 a o f voteA beorf eta,orlimpWlyhailewesnarpoofretoinng. t w h a o n a t m o t! ndm e nt, confidence d the noble e an in the o o t i li e t h r em memb ers were mostof th e an G x i o o v n e s r Government, ecnatr, carry r h thee s t A n l g i e n t i h s e te r rs ag w a o in uld atseae Sir J. WALSH opposed the amendment. w bfied a le r ine t vc o ee( an advantageous result. Mr. M. MILNES also opposed the amendment, but ex ju e l e s t n Y p essed his belief that h p er ar M lia a v th er e y p e r s o r i l i y rie p t e y rio o , f i. calling effects Mr. HILDYARD deprecated a statement made by Admiral Berkeley, to the effect that Cronstadt was BERKELEY said he had received private im pregnable, as calculated to produce most pernicicus in the Baltic to the effect that Cron ltehtArtoedtrisignlfii rr o oa u mi t Eur officers. stadt could not be taken ; but the French G overnment were sending out reinf orcements, and whatever could be done by gallant men would be dose, he h a d no doubt, in the Colonel Baltic. BLAlß said h o would support the amendment, not so much as a vote of want of confidence in the Govern ment, as of a de c l arat i on of tb a necessity of having an of Parliament. hesitationParliant. autumnal r. pE T s session sin had o no as to the course he ‘hould pursue on the vote before the h placed in a p Melon of °use. If th e fl ee t h ad been confidence the house m i g ht h ave shown a wan t of j in the Government. But no thing of the kind had been done in the Baltic or the Black Sea. Few persons could be aware of the difficulties that beset the Government. He (Mr. Peto) had always found when he had hi s people ready half his work was done. Four months had elapsed, and nothing had occurred to shake the confidence of the country • in the Government, or in the conduct of the war. To tie the hands of the Go vernment, however, was a want of confidence, which they could not tolerate for a single moment. The course pur sued in that house was mischievous to the country, as well as unjust to the Government ; for it compelled them to disclosures which, perhaps, ought not to be made, in their own justification. He believed that it was nothing but a high sense of moral duty which had kept the Govern ment in their position, under the continued impatience of certain supporters of theirs, whom it was his (Mr. l'oetc) the only sorrow to find still sitting on the seine side off house with himself. (Oh, anti laughter.) If ther e e were rem to be opposition, and a vote of want of confide n ir it. f It gentlemen opposite, he could perfectly understa hon. member was quite fair and right. When the right _ . 200,nd for Buckinghamshire (Mr. Disraeli) got up in h 9 I P attacked the ministry —as he alway but when a s did—f ai rly, openly, and manly, be could well und e r s t a nd that; house, • l noble lord, sitting on the mini s terial site of the Professing to be a supporter of the Governmen . t, a n d ut• eat wlth regard tering all manner of philanthropic swam elfeneesetel* to nationalities, res;;d te7:77 1 7 4 t s t s.o a*tisili, FA i onust Ray that the noble lord showerl liftleulacquaintanee* i• with the real feelings of the country, which, in his (Mr. , Peto's) opinion were decidedly in favou r of leaving the conduct of the war in the hands of the Government, with the firm conviction that they would do what was right under the cireurnstances. (Hear, hear.) Let the noble lord at once avow that he was - no longer a supporter of the Government, and had no farther confidence in them. (Hear.) That was a course of policy he could understand, :and so Would the country, which. had given the ministry its most unreserved confidence, in the belief that they would carry the war to a successful issue. (Divide, divide.) " Lord J. BUSSELL—There are but few things which I _lind it necessary to say in this stage of the debate. I will not certainly accept the invitation o f ray hon. friend the member fo r Aylesbury (Mr. Layard) th a t I should make over the speech I made last night. I cer t a i n l y again do not think it necessary to give any further explanation of the statement I then made, (Hear.) I have seen this morning the reports of what I then stated. Those whisk I have seen appear to me to be accurate, and I am quite r Cobden) for the West Riding (M •followin g hon. mem ber who said that the object of the war willing to abide by that statement. (Hear, hear.) The anther hon. gen tleman tion of Sebastopol, the transference of conquest of the Crimea, and, I think, the was the dismemberment of Russia, proclaimed last night that our objects were the destruction the Crimea to some other power. Such was the inference the hon. gentlem a n drew from whatit was a I said; but which I perfectly gratuitous inference, and the stateme n t have, made did not bear out th a t c o nstruction. But w e in fact, every ki n d o f opponen t t o d ea l w ith ; som e who te ll us that it i s wrong to go to war for t h e di smem b ermen tof Russia, and others who tell us that we are not seriously at war, and that we are unwilling to do any great injury to Russia. In this state of affairs, with expressions rife of various kinds, I certainly thought it was due to the House of Commons, now almost upon the eve of prorogation, that I should enter more than is usually done into the question of the objects of the war. and into the present state of our foreign relations. I slid so as fully as it was possible for use to do so—(hear, hear)—and lam willing to bear the consequences, if I made that statement with too little re serve to the country. I believe that in carrying on a war in which the feelings of this country are engaged, it is not imprudent to state to the country at large what are the general objects that we have in view, and what is the na me mber onal purpose that W 3 h ope to attain. My hon. friend the for Aylesbury says he wishes there was some statesman who could take a statesman-like view of the ob jects of the war, and that would take that view which a statesman alone can take of the importance of the object and the magnitude of the contest. Well, if we who belong to the Ministry are entirely benighted in this respect ; if, iu all the debates which have occurred, we have never pro perly expressed why we went to war, and what should be our objects in going to war, I was in hopes that the hon. gentleman, who is so touch more enlightened, and who has calculated the interests of all the powers in Europe, would have told us what these objects should be, and in what way we were to carry on , his contest. But he has not, lam sorry to say, so enlightened us upon the subject. It appears to rue, indeed, that the case might be generally stated i n very simple language, and without any very great profundity o f view. (Hear.) The Sultan of Turkey is attacked by the Emperor of Russia. Is be unjustly attacked? Yes : he is unjustly a tt ac k e d H ave we an y in t eres t i n d e f en di ng him ? Y es , we h ave an i nterest i n d e f en di ng hi m. (Hear hoar.) And there, as it appears to use, is the very simple, plain case upon which the minds of the people of this country are satisfied, without those profound calculations and those mysterious views which my hon. friend has in his own breast, but which he so carefully conceals from us who are his inferiors, no doubt, in experience and under standing. (Ministerial cheers, and laughter.) Then, with regard to the conduct of the war, in stating the reasons for taking this vote, I refrained purposly from entering into any defence against those generally anonymous accusations which have been made ag dust that department of the Go vernment which sent out our fleet and army, and those who are in command of that fleet. No such accusations had been made in this house, and I thought it not unbecstning my position to wait and see if any such would be made. I am sorry to say that some of those unfounded accusations have been repeated here. But my right hon. frieud the Secretary at War (Mr. S. Herbert) has furnished so ample an explanation upon that subject that it is quite unneces sary for me to add one word respecting it. We all knew —at least we ought to have known—that one hon. gentle. man, the lion member for Surrey, hinted out to us, if we had not found it out fur ourselves, that this is a war not similar to many wars in which we have been engaged. Had Sir Charles Napier, for instance, instead of having to encounter dangerous shoals, granite built forts, narrow channels, and continual fogs, gone to distant seas, I have no doubt that before this time, a whole archipelago of islands would have yielded to his flag. But we have in this case a sort of rhinocerous to attack, and it is not a. very easy thing to penetrate the hid/ of such an animal. (Hear.) With regard to the Black Sea, it is an inconsider able advantage that those forts which Russia has for many years been constructing, 4 ith the view of maintaining and extending her power in the countries bordering upon that, sea, have been yielded without a blow being struck by the Emperor, who, whatever others may have felt has himself confes ed that the inferiority of his forces in the Black Sea was a reason why there should be an armistice on its shores. There is one other topic which has been dwelt upon both last night and to night, respecting which I think it is absolutely necessary I should address a few words to the house. Some hon. members have singled out the noble earl at thehead of the Administration, and have made him the peculiar object of their attacks. Now, what ever may be the constitutional nature of this motion—and I do not deny that, as a motion of want of confidence, it is constitutional—yet there is nothing constitutional in the attempt to separate the Cabinet from the noble earl who is at its head, and to snake him alone responsible for that in respect to which all his colleagues must share his re sponsibility. With regard to the general measures of the Government, those measures have been considered step by step by those advisers of her Majesty who are usually called the Cabinet, and when decisions have been adop ted all th e colleagu es o f L or d Ab erdeen are alike responsi ble to this house and to the country with that noble lord. (Hear.) With regard ag a i n t o part i cular departments—with regard to the Miui s t er o f W ar, and with regard to the First Lord of the Admiralty—who are deeply charged with the con duct of this war—l am sure lam satisfied in saying that there is no measure which they have opposed, in order to impart greater vigour to the operations of war, and thus ensure the success of that war, which my noble friend at the head of th e Government hasi not zealously encouraged and supported in the Cabinet. (Cheers.) That my noble friend for a long time believed in the possibility of main taining peace, and wished to avert the calamity of war, is, I think, a reproach which he can very well bear; but with regard to any del a y th a t t oo k p l ace, or that has been charged to have taken place, in commencing that war, those who acted with Lord Aberdeen as his colleagues are alike chargeable with him for such delay. Let me remark, however, that that which was for some time the great sub ject of attack —namely, that when the Pruth was passed by the Rthsians we did not at once advise her Majesty to declare war, or to take such steps as would show that we were determined to encounter the risk of hostilities—that that event occurred when Parliament was sitting, and could have interfered to give its advice to the Crown, and that the more vi gorous measures of sending the fleet first to the Bosphorus, and aftewards into the Black Sea were taken when Parliament was not sitting, and during the recess. (Ministerial cheering.) I do not, however, wish to ad dress myself to the particular words of the motion ; I wish merely to state that the Government do consider them selves responsible for the conduct of this war, with regard to all its operations ; and that they consider themselves responsible for accepting or refusing any terms of pesoe that may be offered them. (Hear, hear.) I have already stated enough, I think, to show that we should look for guarantees and for security in the event of any such terms being proposed. But reverting to that which has been stated in order to make comparisons between different members of the Government, we were told last night that there was a great difference between the language which I held in this house and that which was held in another ......._ ....._..... ___ _______ stated in this house, I can I stated as much as I thought it necessary only say that for a large vote of to state, in order to justify me in aski ng 'Alice. With regard to what I sta . . if necessary, burdens make grants of money, and to impose 'House of Parliament upon the people. What the other money from this house, whose nce that they would peculiar function it is to measures which were had to be asked was, to give an assura nce and I think it was of the noble e ,ri who had perfectly judicious on the p art indispen sable clieerfull himself • content. Wit h merely to ask for that support, to rca h rr er y M in a g j y support fo t which was requisite for the purpose making the statemen t hehad Majesty y the i n a w n a y r ; think therefore, that it is either cons c i tut . onal or generous o draw in this house distinctions between different mem bers of the Government, and to hold up certain members of the administration to a kind of suspicion with regard to their public conduct, while others are not to be rendered liable to the same odium or to the same suspicion. (Ironi cal cheers.) If, then, the house is not satisfied with the administration, let it vote the terms of this address, which would serve the purpose as well as any other, though they are not very a p propriate to the occasion, because it so hap pens that they have generally been moved in cases where the mini s t er h as thought it his duty to refrain from informatio n as t o the state of our foreign relation gi s " a n ni as to the general prospects of a war. Everything that can he stated has been stated on this occasion in order to give information to Parliament ; and, therefore , the noble a lord (L or d D. Stuart) has done what great histo rian says is one of the most common, but ono of the most grievous of errors —namely, taking a precedent which . was ht for another occasion, and applying it to an occaFsion for which it is not fit. (Hear.) However, as I have already stated, for I do not wish to prolong this ad dress, the house has now to say whether it will confide to us the disposition of these 3,000,0001.; whether it will con fide to us the discretion of advising her Majesty to call Parliament together in case it should be necessary, or to refrain from calling Parliament together if in their judE inent the public welfare does not require it. If we are fi t to be Ministers of the Crown, we are fit to have that d i cretion. (Hear.) If we are not fit to have that di_fr?_tr eze u on the other hand, we are no longer fit to remain e r o Ministers member for of the Crown. (Hear.) The noble lord the why, to Marylene has chosen, I do not, and I e exactl h y si t w a bide by the • issue, bring the bo matter to this decisio n o f th e h ouse . (Di v id e , divide.) .. t he first wow Lord D. STUART, in explanation, a i n dignation reorm lord (Admir a l Be r k e l e y) had with some , h e3n ted him as stating that the is fl ee t s of t country ' had that was not fit zor fte been sent forth in a condition e . _ sa id anything of the tion. If he (Lord D. Stuart) t e l l do so. what he from his inten i to he believed the ileets sort it was far ts was. that meant to say, at all even te , of efficiency such as enabled were sent forth in a sta . the world, and give an excel ft e t. in not fit for the them to meet any but that they were lent account of them;which they were employed, and for particular service in draught of water and mortars which vessels of land ligh ter fortifications were most required. for bombarding In conclusion, the noble lord intimstea th a t h e was se. tisfied with the dec larations which h a d b een made to the the part of Government, and particularly the house on statement of the first naval lord. He would, wit • h the . ask leave to withdraw his motion. (Cries of therefore, . oh, no , and divide, from all parts of the house.) t - ran gers were ordered to withdraw, but no division took place. The amendment was negatived without a division, and the report was brought up and agreed to. The Bankruptcy Bill was read a second time. CINQUE PORTS BILL. Mr. DEEDES did not mean to oppose the second read ing, but objected to the clause which placed the compensa tion to the officers of the Lord Warden on the county rates. IMr. WILSON said that was a point which would beat be discussed in committee. The bill was then read a second time. The remaining orders having been disposed or s the h 9119. ;l:tionrned at 2 .