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of very great importance, it might form a precedent that would be prejudicial. An How. ME xia said, that on one night he came down to the House at half-past six, and found no, less than about 200 papers stuck throughout the House to secure places for Members, not one of whom, he believed, had that evening been down. He had every reason to believe that those papers bad been put there by the servants of the House—(Hear, hear)—and he had made up bis mind never to have recourse to such conduct. The SPEAKER put the motion, which was carried nen. con., " That on days appointed for taking into consideration any election petition, no Member having been present at prayers, shall be allowed to keep any place for himself unites be shall be present, and shall attend the service of the House during the Ballot." LIVERPOOL ELECTIONS. Mr. BENETT moved for a Select Committee to in quire into the matters complained of in the petition of the inhabitants of Liverpool (presented 21st February), and to report the result of their inquiries to the House. The Hon. Member stated, that bribery and corruption, not only in the election of Corporation-bfficera, but in that of Members of Parliament, was a common source of pub lic nuisance. ite held in his hand a document that would prove What corruption had been made use of in the election of both. Mayors and Members of Parliament doting a long spare of time, up to the present period. At the election of 1831 for Members of P urliamenr, he would Prow; t} at upon that occasion there were three thousand freemen bribed. He had seen the books and the accounts of payments made to that number of persons. The ex pense of that election to the party that had recourse to bribery was 80,0001. But, then, it had been stated that no recourse had been had to bribery since the election of 1831. The Noble Lord's (Sandon's) statement might be true ; bet he had examined evidence, and consulted Coun sel, who assured him that never was there made out a better case of bribery and corruption than the present. The Hon. Member then contended that the Government patronage, extended to the members of the Liverpool Committees and clubs, was a misusage of that patronage, and was in eft ct eqUal to bona fide bribe.; and that those who offered that patronage were as guilty as if they offered money. Never would this systeM of bribery be wiped off, unless a Committee was appointed to inquire into the purity of the last elections. In wishing fior this inquiry, he had no personal feelings towards the Noble Lord, but his feelings were entirely against the Corpora tion abuses of the town of Liverpool. If a Committee Were not granted, he considered that it would be a stigma thrown upon the Liverpool elections. In asking for this inquiry be only demanded justice, and nothing more. Mr. R. WASON seconded the motion. Lord SANDON contended, that the petition should be confined to late elections, and should not go back to those that took place twenty years ago. Much had been said about the effects of patronage in the Liverpool elections; but he held in his hand a list of many who supported, from principle and by public subscriptions, Messrs. Brougham and Creevey, when they were candidates for Liverpool. This was a proof —one of the best he could give—that the electors of Liverpool preferred principle to patronage. He had known them now for the space of two years. He had no patronage to offer—no influence ; and, consequently, his election could not be attributed to corrupt motives. He (Lord Sandon) could say that on his first election, after a canvass of ten weeks; his whole expense amounted to 1,8001 only, and at the last election it was still less, for it amounted only to baween 1,4001. and 1,500/. What other Member in the House, repre senting a popular constituency, could say that he held his seat on so small an expenditure? Or was it likely that with so small a sum as that mentioned by him, bribery to any extent could be carried on? He begged the House to take care, that in following the course proposed by the Hon. Member for Wiltshire, they did not disfranchise the innocent as well as the guilty. The whole number which he proposed to disfranchise was 1,448, while the whole number guilty, according to his statement, was 3,600. Of these a considerable number were younger sons of merchants, book-keepers, and others of that class, who, if taken from the 3,600, very few would be found who could be supposed guilty of bribery.—(Hear, hear.) As to the mode of inquiry proposed by the Hon. Mem ber, he (Lord Sandon) would beg to ask the House if the tribunal to which he wished it to be referred was a proper one, as the Grenville Act, which regula'ed the proceed ings regarding election's went in the preamble, that " where as the present mode of conducting inquiries on election proceedings obstructs business, is enormously expensive, and is not found to answer the purpose for which it was intended ?" Its first proviaion then, for the protection of parties, was, that a strictly impartial tribunal should be provided, and for that purpose it was enacted that a Com mittee of the House should be balloted for ; and that the tribunal might be further purged, it provided that all per sons interested should be excluded from the Committee. It then provided that the Members of the Committee should be sworn to do justice between the parties,, and it give them power to call and examine witnesses upon oath. He would beg leave to ask the Hon. and Learned Member for Wiltshire which of those provisions he thought ought to be dispensed with.—(!fear, hear.) Yet, in the tri bunal suggested by him—namely, a Select Committee— the Members were not sworn to do justice, and they haul no power to call o itro saes before them or to administer a❑ oath. It had, therefore, none of the wholesome previsions for the protection of parties provided by the ti burial to which such matters are ordinarily referred. He had no objection to a full examination into the circumstances of the Liverpool elections as long as he was connected with them, and he knew that his Committee was equally anxious that such an inquiry should be entered into. If, really the House agreed to this Committee, he (Lord San don) should expect to see the bar of the House surrounded with petitioners praying for similar Committees.—(Hear, hear, from Mr. O'Connell.) Ile understood the meaning of the cheers of the Huun. Member for Dublin. The Sta tute of Limitations would prevent them from examining into the corruptions of the full period of thirty years, but they could do so for twenty.five years. But he thought taat this was a subject which did not require the appoint ment of a Select Committee to examine into it, as it was uae of the objects of the Corporation Committee. He (Lord Sandon) thought the whole subject of the corpora tion abuses was brought into play merely for the purpose of swelling the prejudice already felt against the meinkers of the corporation. There was another subject on which he wished to set the Hon. Member right: The Hon. !!ember stated that the Mayor of Liverpool was one of the persons who signed the petition. That was not the case. He asserted, likewise, that the brother of the Mayor bad sat as Chairma❑ of his (Lord Sandon's) Committee. That statement was likewise untrue. And as both these allegations were found not to be consistent with fact, he left it to the House to say what faith could be put in his other allegations. The Hon. - Member bad likewise as serted that the old freemen refu•ed to take the Bribery Oath. If that were the case, how could they make the return ? He knew, too, the Bribery Oath was ad ministered only to procure delay, till they could bring up those who had not come forward ;. but their ob ject was defeated, for a sufficient number did come for- ward and took the oath. And the first person to whom he (Lord Sandell) saw the Bribery Oath administered was a freewaa' on the opposite side, who refused to take it, amidst the laughter of the people assembled. With regard to the large majority against him (Lord Saiadon), to which the Hon. Member al uded, it was easy to explain it. The old freemen, and that class of electors, told bim that they would not vote at the same time with the small householders, but would come forward on the second day. That accounted for the change which took place on the second day.—(Hear.) The Noble Lord then said be wished to take that opportunity of correcting a misstatement which appeared in the public prints in the report of the speech of his Hon. Colleague on presenting the petition in question. The misstatement was impor tant as regarded the corporation, and he wished therefore to remove the impression which it was calculated to make on the public. The report to which he alluded said that the petition complained of a mi.appropriation of the corpo ration funds. That was not the fact. The complaint was regarding funds belonging to the Dock Company. It was alleged that 300,000!. of the funds belonging to the Dock Company were misappropriated and applied to the general Corporatio❑ purposes ; but that was impossible, as the funds of the Dock Company were applied to exclusive purposes appointed by Act of Parliament, and the property belonging to the company which had been sold was pre. viously valued by a Jury ; so that it was impossible for those who had the management of them to misappropriate them. He thought it important to set the public right on this matter. He would not detain the House longer than to read to them a passag e or two from a letter written by the Rev. W. Sheppard, with whose name the House was well acquainted; that Rev. Gentleman confessed that he himself had been a corrupt er : not that he had received bribes, but that his pocket. had been considerably lightened by the sums he had distributed for purchasing the votes of others. Having done this, it was not his intention to put on a hypocritical face, and set to work prosecuting others for the very offence of which lie himself was guilty. N o ; he should assume the humility of penitence for what he had been obliged to do, and sin no more. Mr. ROBINSON thought these subjects ought rather to come before the Municipal Committee, and not before the House ; supposing, however, the House were to grant the Committee now petitioned for, what would to the necessary effect of investigating the allegations before a Select Committee, where neither the examiners nor the examined would be upon oath ? He would take upon himself to say that the Committee would be so entirely confused by the complicated and contradictory statements which would be thus made before them, that they would be utterly unable to fulfil their judicial duties. Or suppose even that this Select Committee did come to a judgment, and it were in favour of the petitioners, would this House consent to disfranchise such a body of freemen on mere statements not given on oath ? Would they not insist upon having the whole case thoroughly sifted and re investigated before them. Would they not summon the petitioners, witnesses, and counsel to the bar of the House? If they did so, the expense and delay which would be the result would be dreadful ; and he need only refer to the trouble and expense which had attended the investigation of the East Retford case. One great branch of bribery and corruption—the grants of appointments—had been altogether knocked on the head. For himself be could truly state, that during the whole time of his being a Member for that city, he had not had a single appointment to give away. He denied that any case had been made out for gjanting the prayer of the petition for psrmi ting an investigition which would cost the country an enor• mous suni—not much under 8 or 10,0001—and would occasion very crest delay in public business. He implored the Government, by their sense of duty, to recollect the immensity of business they had to transact this session— to recollect what time thy would require for the discus sion of the imp irtant question last night before the House. Mr. WASON was in favour of the appointment of the Committee. It deemed to him that the opposition to it was an opposition to justice—was a shield to corruption. The whole aim of the petitioners was against the atrocious system. The Hon. Member then related a case wherein, on a presentment made by the Grand Jury of Liverpool against bribery and corruption .practised at the election of the Mayor, the magistracy had directed their power against two poor men who had foolishly allowed them selves to be bribed into going up to vote twice. These two ignorant men were disfranchised for this offence. Here were these poor men punished for an offence by the very magistrates by whom they had been corrupted into the commission of that offence. The Hon. Member then detailed the various circumstances of the several elections at Liverpool since 1830, which he said fully proved the grossest bribery and corruption. in that city. He particu larly 'dWelt upon the fact, that after the election of 1831, when the present Member for Nottinghamshire (Mr. J. J. Denison) who had been selected as representative both by that county and by Liverpool—when that Hon. Mem ber made his choice for the former representation, there was a vacancy for Liverpool, and the House of Commons decidedly refused to issue a new writ, on the ground of gross corruption having been proved as existing at the previous election.—(Hear.) Indeed the Noble Lord, he must say, was now in that House purely by the influence of bribery and corruption.—(oh, oh.) Mr. O'CONNELL thought the House could not avoid this inquiry. If the allegations made by the petitioners were true, it was essential that justice should be done to the delinquents. If unfounded, it was due to the cha racter of the inhabitants of Liverpool to have the asper sions cleared up. It was clear, however, on the face of it, from the incontrovertible facts stated on oath before the Committee of 1830, and contained in their report, and from other evidence adduced, that the most unblushing bribery was carried on at Liverpool, from the lowest in habitant to the highest magistrate. The facts stated in the report, too, had been fully borne out by the Noble Lord (Sandon) in a letter from the Rev. W. Sheppard, confessing that he had been obliged to have recourse to bribery to support his political opinions. It was notorious that the name of freeman of Liverpool was synonimous with bribery and corruption. Liverpool was only a mass of corruption as a whole, but there were cycles of corrup tion. An Hon. Member had said, " Let the corrupters be punished." So he would say too, but let the cor rupted be punished as well. He regretted to hear the speech of the Noble Lord (Sandon). He could not think of it but as throwing a shield over corruption--as protecting the offence, and encouraging the offenders. There was no imputation against the Noble Lord ; his purity was perfectly established. He should support the petition. Lord W. LENNOX regretted extremely that the Hon. Member for Wilts had felt it his duty to have again brought forward this question. He thought the valuable time of the House could be better employed than by raking up tbe grievances of 1830. He would oppose the motion, because he felt it was an act of injustice to punish the in nocent for the guilty, and by this measure 4,964 persons, who have never offended, would be disfranchised. In con• elusion, he would merely add, that he would yield to no man in his desire for purity of election ; he was happy that the Reform `Bill had worked so well in that respect. Sir HENRY WILLOUGHBY opposed the motion. Mr. P. THOMSON said, the question was whether—a statement having been made of a case of gross corruption existing in a certain borough—it was not the duty of the House to appoint a Committee to inquire if that state ment could be substantiated? On such a subject, it was no answer to the demand for inquiry, to say that the time was gone by. It was the duty of the House to preserve the purity of the election of its Members ; and therefore it was its duty to inquire into all cases of alleged gross corruption. Mr. HUME supported the motion. -The House was bound to purify itself, and to keep elections pure. Such a case as this was seldom brought before it; and when it was said, why did not the parties go to an election com mittee? he answered that the expense prevented them. He hoped the House would interfere, and put an end to bribery whenever it occurred. He wished to ask the Noble Lord if be meant to say tbat the whole expense of the election was only 1,4001. ? Lord SANDON was understood to say, Yes ; with 801. for the hustings. Mr. HUSlE—Then he must say that was impossible. —(Oh, oh, Hear, hear.) As regarded the Noble Lord, he had no doubt that the Noble Lord was correct ; but it was impossible that the election could have been carried for that sutn.—(Flear, bear.) They were bound to have an inquiry, such as that now proposed, after every alleged ease'of corruption ; and he, there!ore, should vote for the Committee. Sir JOHN WROTTESLEY reminded the House, that during the discussions' on the Reform Bill, it was proposed ro disfranchise the freemen, and it was with much re luctance that be consented to abandon that plan. But the Reform Act having been pas.ed, and the freemen be ing allowed to remain, he regarded that Act as a general amnesty for all alleged corruption in the freemen previous to it. He therefore, would never refer anything which had happened previous.to that Act to a Committee of Inquiry. He maintained that at the laid election, and since that in quiry, no corruption had been proved against the freemen of Liverpool. It had been alleged, but not proved. An Horr. MEMBER, name unknown, was opposed to the appointment of a Select Committee. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said, that from the difficulties and expenses that beset the investigation of elections, it would be utterly impossible to prevent bribery and corrup tion, unless the House resumed its ancient inquisitorial power.—(Cries of " Hear, hear.") The most scanda lous Liverpool election on record, was that of 1831. He would, therefore; support the motion for a Select Commit- tee, but would postpone the appointment of its members to a future'da, and would then vote for selecting them by ballot. Lord SANDON had no objection to that course, if the Committee should be impartially appointed. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL thought that the elec tion of 1880 should not be drawn into a precedent. They should allow a locus penittntice to offenders. He thought, however, that the Committee should be instructed to inquire into the proceedings of the last election; and that, should bribery and corruption be found to have prevailed then, the whole question, including the practices in 1880, should he probed to the bottom. In his opinio❑ the argument, that at the utmost no more than 1,430 persons would be punished, was exceedingly futile. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said, the manner of the Hon. Member for Liverpool (Lord Sandon) seemed so fair and handsome, that he thought the first inquiry should refer to the last election. Colonel WILLIAMS would make no opposition to the motion, but thought its effact would be to di,fraochise him- self. The last election had witnessed bribery, merely that consistency of character might be preserved. Mr. SHEIL was proceeding to make some observations on the prop,iety of inquiring into the last election, when Lord SANDON bad no objection to that course. Mr. SHEIL then quoted the Grampound case, and said that the Committee had recommended the disfranchise- went of the borough, not on account of any bribery at the election immediately preceding, hut that which had been practised at former ones. That was an important prin ciple ; but, moreover, it was fully confirmed and established by the similar case of East Retford. Lord ALTHORP add the House was agreed as to the propriety of examining the last election proceedings ; but he thought the Committee should be instructed not to con fine its inquiries to that alone.—(Hear, hear.) . If the place should be found free from bribery for the last three tlections—particularly taking into account the late infusion of houbebeiders—he thought the case should proceed no further ; but if bribery had been employed at .tlie last - : election, it was only just and fair they should suffer for offences aggravated by being committed after reform. An How. MEMBER said the freemen would always con. rupt the representation. Mr. GOULBURN strongly protested against referring the petition to any but the usual sworn Election Com mittee, appointed under the Grenville Act. It was a most unprecedented step, for the question would ultimately be decided by a majority of the House. Mr. BENETT was perfectly content if the Committee should he instructed to inquire into the proceedings of the last election, and as far back as might be necessary. The question was then put—whether the petition should be referred to a Select Committee on the 21st March inst., and that the Committee should then report to the House— and carried in the affirmative. The SPEAKER was then proceeding to read the first instruction to the Committee, that they should inquire into the proceedings of the last election, when Mr. GOULBURN repeated his former objection to the motion. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said no Act could be more useful as between man and man than the Grenville Elec. tion Act ; and the purity and impartiality of the proceed- ings under it gave uniform satisfaction. But it was very ill-calculated to promote the general interests of Vie repre sentative body; in fact, they were lost in its restricted views and proceedings. Mr. GOULBURN denied that the Noble Lord at all understood the operation of the Grenville Act. The Com mittees under it made general reports. Mr. WASON said that a Grenville Committee bad re commended the disfranchisern-nt of Psnrhyn. After a desultory conversation, in which Lord Sandon, Sir E. Kiiatcobull, the Solicitor-General, Sir John Wrottesley, Lord Althorp, Mr. Benett, and Mr. O'Con nell, took part, the motion was agreed to without a division. Lord JOHN RUSSELL proposed that the Committee should be chosen by ballot in a similar manner to Election Committees, but that the attendance of Members should not be enforced in the store manner. He moved that the Committee should consist of eighteen Members, two to be named by the House, and thirteen to be chosen by lot. The ballot to take place on Tuesday next.—Agreed to. Mr. O'DWYER moved for a return of all persons de riving any ply or emolument from offices held in the Privy Council of Ireand, With the amount of salary, &c., —Agreed to. Mr. O'CONNELL took that opportunity to inquire of the Noble Lord opposite whether he would be enabled to fulfil his engagement of laying the Irish Church Reform Bill on the tab'e of the House during the present week Lord ALTHORP hoped he should be enabled to do so during this week. The only circumstance that now caused any delay was the copying the Bill.—(Hear.) Mr. HUME inquired whether any measure was about to be proposed by his Majesty's Government in conse quence of the report of the Commissioners to inquire into the law of debtor and creditor, which sat about three years ago? Lord ALTHORP said a Bill had been prepared which was under consideration. Lord G. SOMERSET inquired when they might ex• pect the report of the Poor Law Commissioners ? The N.ible Lord, about a month back, had given the House reason to anticipate it by this time. It was very impor tant that Members should have the benefit of consider ing the result of these inquiries during the vacation, before they were called upon to legislate on the subject. Lord ALTHORP admitted that he had given some such expectation. He would communicate with the Poor Law Commissioners, however, and let him know in a few days. Mr. HANDLEY (Boston) inquired of the Solicitor. General whether it was his intention to pursue a Bill which pissed through the Upper House last session to refer certain cases to arbitration ? The SOLICITOR-GENERAL had too much on his bands to bring forward such a Bill. Some of its clauses were useful, but its general principle was bad. Compulsory arbitrations were very objectionable ; but if any Hon. Member thought proper to collect the salutary provisions, and introduce them in the shape of a Bill, he would give it his best attention. Mr. FOWELL BUXTON wished to correct a mis apprehension which had arisen in Monday's debate during his absence. The Noble Lord (the Member for Bucking hamshire) had said that he had withdrawn his notice for the 19th. Now he had no intention to withdraw his notice except upon certain terms. He withdrew it on the understanding that it was the intention of the Government to introduce a measure of emancipation, which he hoped would satisfy the country. But he begged to assure them that no measure would be either safe or satisfactory to the nation, unless founded on the principle of entire and im mediate emancipation.—(Hear.) There was also a ne cessity that it should be introduced without delay. He hoped that the minds of his Majesty's Government were impressed with a conviction of the extreme danger which must ensue to our colonies of the fearful chance of a servile war, if the present system were not pt;;;;;;Ito;iih out any unnecessiry delay. He warned his Majesty's Government not to lose time in settling this question. Mr. SHELL inquired whether it «as the intention of his Alajesty's Government to introduce any measure as to Irish tithes ? Lord ALTHORP said that it certainly was the inten tion of Government to do so, but he was not at pre , ent enabled to say when. On the motion of the Nosuz LORD, the House then went into a COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY. Lord ALTHORP rose to move the renewal of the Su gar Duties. With respect to the question of continuing the duties on sugar, the necessity fur it was grounded on the circumstance that it was required for the public ser vice of the country. He (rid not feel that the state of the revenue was such as, with due reference to the other ques tions likely to come under consideration, to enable hint to propose any reduction in the amount of those duties which would afford any substantial relief, either to the West In - ilia interest, or to the people of this country. Under these circumstances, he felt himself—knowing, as he tilt!, the distressed situation of the owners of West India pro. rrty—called upon to consider whe , her he was enabled to propose a large reduction ; and not being able to propose a large reduction, he felt that a sin dl one would not give them any advantage. Unless he could make a reduction which should reduce the cost of sugar over the world, or give the planters a❑ effective monopoly in this country, the reduction would he of no use. Under these circumstances, he proposed to the House a motion, " To grant to his Majesty, as part of the supply, that all the duties o❑ sugar and molasses, granted by an Act • pas , ed in the first year of the reign of his present Majesty, should be renewed." The resolution did not state the time, hut he proposed their renewal for one year. Mr. HUME remarked, that this was the first occasion that the Reformed Parliament had to impose taxes. He was much surprised, therefore, that there was not a better attendance.—(Hear.) He was sorry and surprised that the Hon. Member for Oldham was not there.—(Loud cries of " Hear.") He was, doubtless, not aware of it, or he would have been present. There were 314 new Members sent to that House, but when he looked round him, he did not see half that number in the House, and the larger portio❑ of those present were old Members. This did not say much for the industry and attention of the new Members; but he hoped that, on a future occa sion, they would have a better attendance. He was sorry the old system of placing upon East India sugar a duty of 10s. per cwt. more than upon West India sugar was to be kept up. He hoped the Noble Lord would consent to an equalization of the duties. It would be a great benefit to our oriental possessions, by enabling them to pay for Bri. tish manufactures, whilst it would not injure the West India planters, as it was impossible, considering the dis tance, to compete with them ; and it would be destroying the appearance of a monopoly which in fact was none. He hoped the Noble Lord would take this into considera tion; and he would make a motion to this effect on bringing up the report. As to the smallness of any reduction which the Nob'e Lord might be able to make, he hoped lie would not hesitate to do it on that account, since, to a poor man, even a trifle was of consequence. Mr. WOOLRYCH WHITMORE supported the pro position for equalizing the duties, as highly beneficial to both countries; and also condemned the system of ut . er prohibition of foreign sugar, as contrary to the principles of free trade. Lord ALTHORP said the present was an improper time for taking into their consideration any general mea sure respecting the sugar duties, because they were about to discuss the question of the renewal of the East India Chart. r—a questio❑ with which the sugar duties are inti mately connected ; and when, with respect to the other great interest, to whom the sugar duties were of impor tance, the Government was expected to propose a measure which would make a considerable alteration in the situa tion of that important interest. With regard to the reduc tion of the duty on sugar, as a measure of relief to the labouring classes, he agreed that it was desirable to reduce them on that account ; but it was necessary to pay propor tionate attention to all classes of his Majesty's subjects, and it became a question whether the reduction of some other tax would not he still more beneficial to the labour ing classes themselves. Mr. GOULBURN congratulated the country on the bright prospect held out to it by the first financial measure brought before it by Ministers. In the time of former Parliaments, it was usual for the objects to which the taxes were to be applied to be stated before the taxes were voted ; but it was reserved for a Reformed Parliament to see the taxes voted first, and their objects--whether for the army, navy, or other service—left to he determined afterwards. The usual course being so different from the present, he hoped the Noble Lord would excuse his few observations. The Noble Lord ought, before proposing a vote for a tax, to have made a statement of the burdens under which the country a'ready labours. He was per fectly aware that any laree reduction of taxation was incon sistent with justice. It was of great importance that the West India interest should be immediately settled on a sure basis ; and it was certainty true that the removal of these taxes would be a benefit to the labouring classes. While they relieved the poorer classes, it was right that they should give some relief to a class who, though not belong ing to what were called the poorer classes, were yet amongst the po , rest who lived under his Majesty's sway. Lord ALTHORP observed that he would merely an swer the speech of the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Goul burn). The first objection made to the vote was merely one of form. The Navy Estimates had already been pre sented ; but there was no vacant day for taking them into consideration. The postponement of the alteration of the sugar duties till the sth of April, would throw it one day beyond the expiration of the financial year. It was im pessible for him to state what he could reduce, until he could tell what was required for the support of the Govern ment, and what would be the state of the revenue. It was the duty of Government to pay every attention to the interests of the lower classes, but not so as to exclude other classes. Mr. ROBINSON observed, that though he and other gentlemen on the same side were not inclined to believe that a great reduction of taxation could be made, yet many besides himself would be disposed to call upon the Noble Lord for information as to the practicability of taking off the taxes which pressed upon the poorer classes, and com muting them for others which would not be liable to the same objections. Mr. WARBURTON observed, that, to say the least, it was very inconvenient to vote four millions, without having an estimate of the expenses of the year. He was sorry to find that the Honourable Member (Mr. Poulett Thomson), who ought to be best aisle to answer the inquiries which he was about to make, was not in his place; but, in- his absence, he would ask the Noble Lord (Althorp) whether the experiments which hail been instituted for the purpose of ascertaining the qualities of sugar, had made such progress as to enable the experimenters to make such a scale as would be necessary for an object which he considered extremely eesirable,• viz., for imposing a graduated duty in proportion to the quality of sugars. Lord ALTHORP replied, that the experiments had not been carried so far as to enable them to make such a scale. The experiments, however, had proved that the calcu lations on which the Excise bad formerly proceeded were erroneous; but the amount of the error had not yet been determined. It certainly had been proved that it was con siderable. The House, he was sure, could not but observe, that the persons interested in colonial affairs, and imme diately connected with the colonies, had purposely abstained from opposing, or in any way embarrassing, his Majesty's Ministers upon the present question—feeling as they did that it was a matter of the utmost importance that the still greater question, and that which more largely affected the colonies, ought now once and for all to be settled ; and, therefore, he, and all connected with the co lonies, were most anxious that nothing whatever should stand in the way of that arrangement. As to the observations of the Hon. Member for Mid dlesex, and his advocacy of the interest of our East Indian possessions, he must be allowed to say, that they were as inconsistent with the principles of sound policy, as with the advantage of that dependency of the British empire. There was not one of the great interests of the country who would thank that Hon. Member for his ad vocacy ; for experience bad taught them all, that his sup port was more troublesome than useful. Mr. HUME could not refrain from deprecating the prac tice of making bargains with Government on questions of that nature, or of any kind. That which was right should be done, without improperly agreeing to vote away any portion of the public money, in order to attain that which should be attained without any such sacrifice. As to what had been said respecting his support of one party or the other, he hoped he should gain credit with the House when he stated, that he never got up there for the purpose of supporting the exclusive interests of any por tion of the empire, and therefore he desired thanks as little as he expected them. There had been for centuries in this country too much talk about maintaining interests, and too little respecting the advantage of the public. His object was the public good ; he therefore cared little for par. ocular interests, and did not want their thanks. He defied any one to show that either his support or his opposition had ever been factious. lltt defied any uric to fix upon him any party motive. Captain DUNDAS, as one of the young Members, hoped it would not go abroad that, because one of the Members for Oldham was absent, any considerable por tion of the new Members were inattentive to the duty they owed their constituents. Mr. FAITHFUL, who obseived that he was another of the young Members, expressed an earnest desire to get rid of the present motion in an unobjectionable manner. He was, he confessed, most anxious to set it aside for the pre sent, but he had not sufficient experience to know how that object cool I be effected according to the forms of the Homoe. It the Right Hon. Member below him, who poeseseed more experience than he could boast of, would only have the goodness to inform him of the proper mode of proceeding, he should most readily adopt it. The Noble Lord had teld them that in the present session the) must not expect any considerable relief from the pressure of taxation —or, indeed, any relief at all.—(Cries of " No, no," from the Treasury Bench.) He acknow ledged he was rejoiced to receive that contradiction, and he sincerely hoped the fond expectations of the country would be realized. The people expected relief, and it those expectations were disappointed, he would take upon himself to say, the Ministry would lose the confidence of the nation, the great body of the people would be driven to desperation, and thence some convulsive movement must of necessity arise. Mr. RUTHVEN strongly objected to the motion, and moved, as an amendment, that the Chairman do repor progress, and ask leave to sit again. Mr. FIELDEN said the House was now called upon to vote tour millions of taxes, and that was a question not to be lightly dealt with. In the district with which he was immediately connected there were 20,000 out of a popu lation of 200,000 who had only 2.-td. a day each to pro vide food and clothing and the other necessaries of life ; and of that number 2,200 were out of employ. How wretchedly insufficient, then, most the remuneration for labour be ! and what a state of things was that, which brought a labouring population to so low an ebb! and how necessary, then, was it that the representatives of the peo ple should watch with a jealous eye every new vote of tax. ation ! Those unhappy beings worked hard from Monday morning till Saturday night, and their whole remunera tion consisted of a day. It was perfectly true they were not consumers of sugar. No, truly; their diet con sisted of nothing more than potatoes for dinner, and oat meal porridge morning and evening. The state of the country was most alarming and most revolting to the feel ings of humanity ; and he therefore could not give his consent to any supply, until he had obtained a promise from the Government that sometbiug effectual should be done for the redress of grievances. Mr. STRICKLAND adverted to some letters which had been published in the newspapers, denying the state ments of the Hon. Member, for Oldham; it was, be be lieved, by no means the fact that such great misery pre vailed in the manufacturing districts as had been repre sented ; for the employment, at the present moment, was pretty general, though the wages were low. That was a state of things which, in his judgment, was by no means s atisfactorily accounted for ; and he sincerely hoped the Hon. Member for Oldham would bring forward some mo tion upon that subject. Mr. FIELDEN declined to enter into any controversies with anonymous writers, who produced no authority for their assertions. Mr. POTTER was most anxious to see the duties re moved from soap. Mr. RICE observed, that confessedly the sugar duties did not affect the class whose distresses had that night been made the subject of complaint; therefore why should the Hon. Members who urged the condition of that class as matter of the highest importance, object to a tax which did not press upon those whose case they thought the har dest? The present was not a conclusive motion; it was only a vote on which a Bill was to be subsequently grounded. A MEAIBER (name unknown), while he was anxious that taxation should be remitted as far as was practicable, expressed his confidence that his Majesty's present Go vernment would do all in their power for that purpose. Conceiving also that the duty under consideration was not one of those which could be remitted, he saw no reason for voting that the Chairman should leave the chair. Mr. FIELDEN made a brief explanation. Dr. BALDWIN said he had been instructed by his con stituents to state that he should not feel it to be their duty to supply his Majesty's Ministers with funds for the pur pose of enforcing military law in their country. A Mamma (name unknown) felt it his duty to declare that the population ten miles round Manchester, were, at the present moment, as comfortable as they had been dur ing any period within the last 12 or 14 years.--(Hear.) Mr. GUEST said the population in the neighbourhood of Manchester had never been so much distressed as within the last two years ; hut, be was happy to add, their con dition was at present improving. After some further conversation, Mr. RUTHV EN persevering in his amendment, the Committee divided : For the Amendment 8 Against it Bli Majority —7B The resolution WriB then agreed to; as were also Lord Altborp's remaining resolutions ; and, the House having resumed, the report was ordered to be received this day. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL brought in four Bills to alter and amend the laws respecting real property, courtesy, inheritance, and dower. They were read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on Wednesday next. Adjourned at one o'clock this morning. MAJORITY AND MINORITY ON THE FIRST REA. DISTURBA. MAJO DING OF THE IRISH NCE BILL. ENGLAND. Littleton, E. J.—South Stafford. shire Locke, W.—Devizes Lopez, Sir R. F.—Westbury Lumley, Lord—North Notting. hamshire Lushington, Dr.—Tower Haml. Lyall, G.—London Lygon, Hon. Colonel H.— West Worcestershire Moberly, W. L.—Chatham Macaulay, T. B.—Leeds Madocks, J.—Denbigh Mahon, Visc.—Hertford Mandeville, Visc.—Hunting donshire Mangles, J.—Guildford Manners, Lord IL—North Lei cestershire Marjoribanks, S.—Hythe Marryatt, J.—Sandwich Marshall, J.—Leeds Marsland, T.—Stockport Martin, J.—Tewkesbury Methuen, P —North Wiltshire Meynell, Capt. H.—Lisburne' Mildmay, P. St. J.— Winchester Mills, J.—Rochester Molyneux, Lord.—South Lanca shire Moreton, A. H.—West Glou cestershire Moreton, H. G. F.—East Glou cestershire Morpeth, Ld.—West Yorkshire Mostyn, E. M. L —Flintshire Neale, Sir H.—Lymington Neeld, ippen ham Nicholl, J —Cardiff Noel, Sir G. N.—Rutlands'aire Norreys, Lord—Oxfordshire North, F.—Hastings Ord, W. H.—Newport, Isle of Wight Ossulston, Lord—North North. umberland Owen, Sir J. B.—Pembrokesh. Owen, H.—Pembroke Paget, Sir C.—Caernarvon Paget, F.—Beaumaris Palmer, C. F.—Reading Palmer, R—Berkshire Palmerston, Lord—South Hants Parker, J.—Sheffield Parker, Sir H.—West Suffolk Patten, J. W.—North Lancash. Pechell, Sir S. J. B.—Windsor Peel, Sir IL—Tamworth Peel, Col. J.—Huntingdon Pelham, Hon. C. E. W.—Lin colnshire, parts of Lindsey Pendarves, E. W. W.—West Cornwall Pepys, C. C.—Malton Peter, W.—Bodmin Pctre, Hon. E. It.—York Phillips,:Sir R.—Haverfordwest Philips, Sir G.—South Warwick.. shire Philips, M.—Manchester Philhpps, C. M.—North Leices tershire Ph illpotts, J.—Gloucester Pigot, R.—Bridgewater Pinney, W.—Lyme Regis Plumptre, J. P.—East Kent Ponsonby, Hon. W. F. S.--- Dorsetshire Potter, R.—Wigan Poulter, J. S.—Shaftesbury Powell, Colonel—Cardiganshire Price, Sir It.—Herefordshire Pryme, o.—Cambridge Pugh, D.—Montgomery Ramsbottom, J.—Windsor Reid, Sir J. IL—Dover Ricardo, D.—Stroud Rick ford, W.—Aylesbury Rider, T.—West Kent Ridley, Sir M. W.—Newcastle upon-Tyne Robarts, A. W.—Maidstone Robinson, 0. R —Worcester Rolfe, R. M.—Penrhyn Hominy, J.—Brldport Romilly, E.—Ludlow Hooper, J. B.—Huntingdonshire itoss, C.—Northampton notch, B.—Knaresborough Itumbold, C. Ed.—Yarmouth Russell, Lord John—South De vonshire Russell,Lord—Tavistock - Russell, Lord C. J. F.—Bedford. shire Russell, W. C.—East Worces shire Russell, C.—Reading style, J.—Macclesfield Sandon, Lord—Liverpool Sanford, E. A.' .West Somer setshire Scott, J.W.—North Hampshire Sebright, Sir J. S.—Hertfordsh, Snawc, R. N.—East Suffolk Sheppard, T.—Frome Simeon, Sir R. G.—lsle of Wight Skipwith, Sir o .—Worwicksh. Slaney, N. A.—Shrewsbury Smith, J. A.—Chichester Smith, J.—Buckinghamshire Smith, R. V.—Northampton Smith, Hon. R. J.—Chipping- Wycombe Somerset, Lord G. C. 11.—Mon mouthsnire Spencer, Captain—Midhurst Spry, S. T.—Bodmin Stanley, E.—West Cumberland Stanley, Hon. E. G. S.—North Lancashire Stanley, H. T.—Preston Stanley, E. J.—North Cheshire Staunton, Sir G.—South Hants Staveley, T. K.—Ripon Stewart, P. 1M —Lancaster Stonor, T.—Oxford Stormont, Lord—Norwich Strickland, G —West Yorkshire Strutt, E.—Derby Stuart, Lord D. C.—Arundel Stuart, W.—Bedfordshire Sutton, lit. Hon. C. M.—Cain bridge University Talbot, C. R. M.—Glamorgan_ shire Talbot, W. H. R.—Wigan s° p s pe t y n o h r a k m . Talmash, A. G.—Grantham hh s k r e nP essne: RP Thomson, Hon. C. P.—Man chester Throckmorton, R. G.—Berks Todd, J. Ruddell—Honiton Tooke, W.—Truro Townley, R. G.—Cambridgesh. Tracy, C. H.—Tewkesbury Trelawney, W. L. S.—East Cornwall Trevor, Hon. G. R.--Caermar thenshire Troubridge, Sir E.T.—Sandwich Turner, W.—Blackburn Tyrrell, Sir J. T.—North Essex fyrell, C.—West Suffolk Vaughan, Sir R.—Merionethsh Verney, Sir 11-t - -Buckingham Vernon, H. G. J. V.—South Derbyshire Vernon, G. H.—East Retford Villiers, Viscount—Honiton Vincent, Sir F.—St. Albans Vivian, J. H.—Swansea Walker, R.—Bury Walsh, Sir J. B.—Sudbury Walter, John—Berkshire Ward, H. G.—St. Aibans Wason, IL—lpswich Waterpark, Lord—South Der. byshire Watkins, J. L. V.—Brecon Watson, IL—Canterbury Wedgewood, J.—Stoke Welby, G. E.—Grantham Whitbread, W. H.—Bedford Whitmore, W. W.—Wolver hampton Whitmore, 'l'. C.—Bridgenorth Wilbraham,G.—South Cheshire Williams, W. A.—Monmouth shire Adams, E. H —Carmarthensh. Althorp, Viscount—South Nor. thamptonshire Anson, Sir G.—Lichfield Anson, Hon G.—Gt.Yarmouth Ashley, Lord—Dorsetshire Ashley, H.—Dorchester Astley.SirJacob—West Norfolk Astley, Sir J. D.—North Wilt. shire Atherley, A.—Southampton Attwood, M.—Whitehaven Baillie, J. E.—Bristol Bainbridge, E. T.—Taunton Bankes, W. J.— Oorsetshire Baring, H. B.—Marlborough Raring, NV. B.—Winchester Baring, F.—Thetford Baring, A.—North Essex Baring, F. T.—Portsmouth Barnard, E. G.—Greenwich Barnett, C. J.—Maidstone Beaumont, T. W.—South Nor thumberland Bell, M.—South Northumberld. Benett, J.—South Wiltshire Ben tinek, Ld. G.—King's Lynn Berkeley, M. F.—Gloucester Berkeley, C. F —Cheltenham Berkeley, G. C. F.—West Glou. cestershire Bernal, R.—Rochester Bethell, It.— Ea st Yorkshire Bewes, T.—Plymouth Biddulph, R. M.—Denbighshire Biddulph, R.—Hereford Bish, T —Leominster Blackstone, W. S.—Wallingford Blake, Sir F.—Berwick Bolling, W.—Bolton.le-Moors Briggs, R.—Halifax Brigstock, W. P.—East Somer. setshire Brocklehurst, , J.—Macclesfield Brodie, W. B.—New Sarum Brougham, J.—Kendal Brougham, W. -.Southwark Bruce, Lord E.—Marlborough Bulkeley, Sir R.W.—Anglesea Buller, J. W.—Exeter Buller, E.—North Staffbrdshire Bulteel, J. C.—South Devon Burdett, Sir F.—Westminster Burrell, Sir C.—Shoreham Burton, Henry—Beverley Buxton, T. F.—Weymouth Byng, Geo.—Middlesex Byng, Sir John—Wareham Calcratt, J. H.—Wareham Calvert, N.—Hertfordshire Campbell, Sir J.—Dudley Carter, J. B.—Portsmouth Cartwright, W. R.—South Nor thamptonshire Cavendish, C. C.—East Sussex Cavendish, Lord—North Der byshire Cavendish, H. F. C.—Derby Cayley, Sir a—Scarborough Cayley, E. S.—North Yorkshire Chaplin, T.—Stamford Chapman ' A.—Whitby Chaytor, W. 11. C—Durham Chaytor, Sir W.—Sunderland Chetwynd, Capt. W.—Stafford Chichester, J. P. B.—Barnstaple Childers, J. W.—Cambridgesh. Clayton, Col.—Marlow Clive, Edward B.—Hereford Clive, R. H.—South Shropshire Cockerell, Sir C.—Evesham Codrington, Sir E.—Devonport Collier, J.—Plymouth Cookes, T. H.—East Worces tershire Cotes, J.—North Shropshire Crawley, S.—Bedford Crompton, J. S.—Ripon Curteis, H. B.—East Sussex Dare, R. W. H.—South Essex Darlington, Earl of—South Shropshire Dashwood, G. H.—Bucks Davies, T. H.—Worcester Dawson, E.—South Leicestersh. Denison, J. E.—South Notting. hamshire Denison, W. J.— West Surrey Dick, Quintin—Maldon Divett, E.—Exeter - Donkin, Sir R. S.—Berwick Duffield, T.—Abingdon Dugdale, W. S.—North War wickshire Duncombe, Hon. W.—North Yorkshire Dundas, J. W.—Greenwich Dundas, J. C.—Richmond Dykes, F. L. B.—Cockermouth Eastnor, Viscount—Reigate Ebrington, Visc.—North Devon Egerton,W. T.—NorthCheshire Ellice, E.—Coventry Estcourt, T G. B.—Oxford Un. Etwall, 11—Andover Evans, W.—Leicester Ewart, W.—Liverpool Fazakerley, J. N.—Peterboro' Fellowes, H. A. W.—Andover Fellowes, N.—North Devon Fenton, J.—Rochdale Ferguson, Sir R.—Nottingham Fielden, W. J.—Blackburn Finch, G —Stamford Fitzroy, Lord C.—Bury St. Ed. Foley, J. H. H.—Droitwich Foley, E. T.—Herefordshire Folcy, T. H.—West Worcester. shire Folkes, Sir W.—Norfolk Fordwich, Lord —Canterbury Forester, G C. W.—Wenlock Forster, C. S.—Walsall Fort, J.—Clitheroe Fox, Sackville L.—Helleston Fox, Col. C. R.—Tavistock Frankland, Sir R.—Thirsk Fremantle, Sir T.—Buckingham Gaskell, J. M.—Wenlock Gisborne, T.—Nortn Derbysh. Gladstone, W.E.-N ewark.upons Trent Glynne, Sir S. R.—Flint Gordon, R.—Cricklade Gore, M.—Devizes Goring, H. D.—New Shoreham Goulburn, H.—Cambriuge Uni versity Graham, Sir J.—East Cumber. land Greene, T.—Lancashire Greville, Sir C. J.—Warwick Grey, C.—Chipping-Wycombe Grey, Sir G.—Devonport Grimston, Vise.—Hertfordshire Grownow, Capt.—Stafford Grosvenor, Lord R.—Chester Halford, Henry—South Leices. tershire Hall, Benjamin—Monmouth liaise, James—St. Ives Handley, Wm. F.—Newark upon-Trent Handley, Benjamin—Boston Handley, Henry—Lincolnshire parts of Kesteven Hanmer, Sir J.—Shrewsbury Hanmer, H—Aylesbury Harcourt, G. G.—Oxfordshire Hardinge, Sir H.—Launceston Harland, W. C.—Durham Hawes, B.—Lambeth Hawkins, J. H.—Newport, Isle of Wight Heathcote, 0. J.—Lincolnshire Heatlicoat, J.—Tiverton Henniker, Lord—East Suffolk Herbert, Hon. S.—South Wilts Heron, Sir li.—Peterborough Herries, J. C.—Harwich llill, Sir IL—North Shropshire kJ obhouse, Sir J.—Westminster Hodges, T. L.—Kent Hodgson, J.—Newcastle-upon- Tyne Hornby, E. G.—Warrington Horne, Sir W.—Marylebone Hoskins, K.—Herefordshire Hotham, Lord—Leominster Houldsworth, T.—North Not tinghamshire Howard, P. H.—Carlisle Howick, Visc.—North North umberland Hudson T.—Evesham flyett, \V. H.—Stroud Ingestrie, Visc.—l lertford Ingham, IL—South Shields Inglis, Sir It. 11.—Oxford Uni versity Jermyn, Earl—Bury, Suffolk Jerninghain, H. V.—Pontefract Johnstone, Sir J. V. B.—Scarbro Jolliffe, Colonel—Petersfield Keppel, Hon. o.—East Norfolk Kerrison, Sir E.—Eye Kerry, Earl of—Caine Key, Sir J.—London King, E. B.—Warwick Knatchbull, Sir E.—East Kent Labouchere, Henry—Taunton Lambton ' H.—North Durham Lamont, J. C.—Wells Langdale, Hon. C. —Beverley Langston, J. IL—Oxford Lee, J. I—Wells Leech, J.—West Surrey Lefevre, C. S.—North HantsLem nn o aa n rr , ,, r. C li ii t tdh C o n o E r s n s w e x a I Len Lennox,Lord W.—King'sLynn Lennox, Lord J.—West Sussex Lennox, Lord A.—Chichester Lincoln, Earl of—South Notts Williams, T. P.—Marlow Williams, IL—Dorchester Williamson, Sir H —NorthDur ham Willoughby, Sir H. P.—New castle-under-Lv ne Wilmot, Sir E. E.—North War- wickshire Wood, vv n ootdd i t i Windham, ie n se g c(r o_ Ty n ,vv : Bs V r: S a.... : el i i jst x. T.—Brecknockshire Lancashire•ordtth s f t e o a y lk t fordshire Wyndham, W.—New Serum Wynn, Sir W. W.—Denbigh shire Wynn, Right Hon. C. W. W,_ Montgomeryshire Yorke, C. P,--Cambridgeshire Young, G. F.—Tynemouth SCOTLAND. Abercrombv, Right Hon. J.— Edinburgh Adam, C.—Clackmannanshire Agnew, Sir A.—Wigtonshire Arbuthnot, Gen.--Kincardine shire Baillie, Col. J.—lnverness, &c. Balfour, J.—Haddingtonshire Bannerman, A.—Aberdeer? Callender, J. H.—Argyllshire Colquhottn, J. C.—Dumbarton• shire _ . Lonl—lnverkeithing Dalrymple, Sir J. H.—Edin. burglishire Dunlop, J.—Kilmarnock Elliot, Hon. G.—Roxburghshire Ewing, James—Glasgow Ferguson, R.—Dysart, &c. Ferguson, G.—Banffshire Fergusson, R. C.—Kirkcud bright Fleming, Hon. C.—Stirlingsh. Grant, C.—lnverness-shire Hallyburton, D. G.—Fortarsh. Hay, Sir J.—Peebles-shire Hay, A. L.—Elgin, &c. Hope, Hon. Sir A.—Linlith gowshire Jeffrey, Ht. Hon. F.—Edinburgh Johnston, A.—St. Andrews Johnstone, J. J. H.—Dumfries. shire Kennedy, T. F.—Ayr, &c. Loch, &c. Mackenzie, J. A:S.—Ross-shire Macleod, R.—Sutherlandshire Marjoribanks, C.—Berwickshire Maxwell, Sir John—Paisley Maxwell, John—l anarkshire Murray, J. A.—Leith Oliphant, Laurence—Perth Orinc:ie, Earl of—Perthshire Oswald, R. A.—Ayrshire Oswald, J.—Glasgow Pringle, R.—Selkirkshire Ross, H.—Montrose, &c. Sharpe, General—Dumfries, &c. Stewart, IL —Haddington, &c. Stewart, Sir M. S.—ltentrewsla. Stewart, E.—Wigton, &c. Traill, G.—Oxfordshire Wemyss, J.—Fifeshire IRELAND. Acheson, Lord—Co. of Armagh) Bateson, Sir R.—Londonderry MINO: ENGLAND. Attwood, Thos.—Birmingham Aglionby, H. A.—Cockermouth Bayntun, S. A.—York Beauclerk, Aubrey Wm.—East Surrey Blandford, Marquis of—Wood stock Bowes, John—South Durham Briscoe, J. I.—East Surrey Brotherton, Joseph—Salford Buckingham, J. S.—Sheffield Buller, t harles—Liskearti Bulwer, H. L.—Coventry Cobbett , William—Oldham Cornish, J.—Totness Ellis, W.—Leicester Faithful, George—Brighton Fancourt, Major—Barnstaple Fielden, John—Oldham Fryer, R.—Wolverhampton Gaskell, D.—Wakefield Grote, Geo.—London Gully, John—Pontefract Harvey, D. W.—Colchester Hume, J.—Middlesex Hutt, W.—Kingston.on-Hull Ingilby, Sir W. A.—Parts of Lindsey, Lincolnshire James, W.—Carlisle Kemp, I'. R.—Lewes Langton, Wm. Gore—East So mersetshire Lister, E. Cunliffe—Bradford Molesworth, Sir William—East Cornwall Palmer, General—Bath Parrott, J.—Totness Richards, J.—Knaresborough Rippon, C.—Gateshead • Roebuck, J. A.—Bath Scholefield, J.—Birmingham ! Tayleur, W.—Bridgewater ' Tynte, C. K. K.—Bridgewater Tynte, C. J. K.—West Somer- - setstiire Warburton, H.—Bridport Wigney, 1. N.—Brighton Wilks, J.—Boston SCOTLAND. &lion, W. D.—Falkirk Kinloch, George—• Dundee Wallace, Robert—Greenock ENGLAND. Andover, Visc.—Malmesbury Apsley, Lord—Cirencester Barrington, G.—Sunderland Blamire, .—East Cumberiant Blunt, Sir C.—Lewes BOSS, J. G..:N(Tril;allerton Brudersell, Lord—North Nor thamptonshii e Cal!ey, T.—Cricklade Chandos, Marquis of—Bucks Clive, Viscount—Ludlow Cripps, Joseph—Cirencester Curteis, E. .11.—Rye Davenport, J.—Stoke-on-Trent Dillwyn, L W.—Glamorgansh. Dundas, Sir R. L.—Richmond Fenton, L.—Huddersfield Fitzroy, Lord J.—Thetford Fleetwood, P. H.—Preston Godson, It —Kiddermimt2r Grant, Right Hon. R.—Finsbury' Grosvenor, Earl—Cheshire Guest, J. J.—Mert , :yr Tydvil Guise, Sir B.W.—East Glouces. tershire Hardy, John—Bradford Heathcote, Sir G.—Rutlandsh. Heneage, G. F.—Lincoln Hill, M. D.—Kingston-on-Hull Howard,.F. G.—Morpeth Hoy, J. B.—Southampton Humphery, John—Southwark Hurst, R. H.—Horsham Jen is, J.—Chester Johnstone, Sir F.—Weymouth Kennedy,Ja. , es—Tiverton Lester, B. Lester—Poole Lewis, T. F.—Radnorshire Lloyd, J. H.—Stockport Lowther, Viscount—WestCum. bnland Lowther, Col.—Westmoreland Maxfield, W.--Grimsby Miller, Wm. H.—Newcastle. under-Lyme Mosley, Sir o.—North Stafford shire Newark, Vise.—East Retford Pease, Joseph—South Durham Penruddocke, J. H.—Wilton Pjllock, F.—Huntingdon ELECTION PETITIONS• tIS Of Ili% FROM THE VOTES AND PROCEEDIN,-- HOUSE OF COMMONS. Mercurii, 6- die Martii, 1833. 010 tb(4l Carnarvon Borough Election—House inforrned , p ieri tij o f Select Committee, appoint e d t o t ry an d d eterm ine th e ia iont„ the petition of Owen Jones Ellis Nanney, Esq., c°rn esr 081- an undue electi on an d return for the borough ,- ser' in the county o f C arnarvon, had determined, ss100 0 ! That Sir Charle s P aget i s not duly electe d a Bu rge in the present Parliament for the said borough of C P- D eeo and that Owen J ones Elli s N anney, Esq., oug ht to bO e do ° turned a Burge ss f or th e sa id b oroug h . That the petition of the said Owen Jones Ellis not appear to the said Committee to be frivolous or 71, 0 t0:i 0 That the opposition to the said petition does not 314;i:r tre o said Committee to be frivolous or vexa ti ous . To b e , t the Journals—Deputy Clerk of the Crown to attend to amend the return. A ° o l f tr 4 Mallow Election—Petition of John Jackson, —genose larging the time for entering the recognizances in t he A od f Mallow election considered. Mr. Jackson called , fled the contents of his petition upon oath. - A; r e - Ordered, That the petitioner be allowed time u - e r the 19th day of this instant Mar c h, t o ascer tain wh e— erei t ii cognizances in respect of the Mallow ele c tion petit i° : s os o executed within the time allowed by l a w, and dull • to Mr. Speaker. IRISH VOLUNTEERS. SM ") (From the Dublin Morning Regi s ter of T oe The following letter was read at the meeting op 10' 0 ; London, 45th Febrult;ooopf My dear Friend,—We had a sitting of the CorP °r th e mittee this day, and went through the case of e ve ~‘*; Bath. We have British co orations enough °L ot t V",„itn more, and by that time the ,Rec rp order will be back ' —before whose arrival here Ido not intend to g . " I ' tee , the O ar r f O pa n u anti-corporation ° h ie, rdonstrthcaeeet happiestipia ,m p m, i i eeni e sst applicable l t i ssrdenf t srst o t:h: t ca h es ;d C ii,reade o lmrl r al o ssibea r o a st, u t hwo i re o rsi n t whti o :fct f ronet D reei ; Oa :tocile; we es to the corporation itself. e v o .0 t f`', l The c" Infernal Bill," as the Pilot calls it, is -°„, on next Wednesday. It will meet more opposi t '" ii sco' ne ' rt have any idea of. England is rousing itself, s o rea t sun g has already caught the alarm. We shall havehgi could 0 01 from the country. In the mean time, I sv is r„,r, enough of leisure to address the people of De la- 00 0- to implore of the wretched and wicked Wl:ll4feet to cease from th e i r cr i m i nal courses—cou rses wh ich oa ti t] ; bring down punishment on themselves, and T . ' l o l- dr sa' country. How I fervently wish I had Isisur e , L rite to v to proper address. Do you do all you can. V ‘ Co cir C t la Catholic clergyman in the disturbed districts are joiOs l if amongst the deluded people the mischiefs 00 f r oM e themselves and to their country. Get petitions e c eex e e t i s l o i f t quarter against the " inf e rn a l Bill." on th ous' Petition—Petition—Petiti on . If 1 . 13a voices, would yP z o , y f to ll P pediment ld in b the tiir way c of sio lt a cordial co-operation o f a ious 't ,;de resist, in a legal and constitutional way, the a military rule with which we are pressingly menaced NS ldi/ Believe me to be, very fait hful l y yours, ,Cu., , Edward Dwyer, Esq. DANIEL 0 The Society was adjourned to Tues da y . Petitions—Petitionlhrovi and of gui t r esP e ' Much clisappointme74t and regret are rienced in the beau monde by the retirement amiable Duchess de DING from the fashionable citcj- sal the season, the Duchess and her (laughter intendiug t°ool company Prince TALLEVRAND to France. The ()il . e . Ball so much talked of last season, and expected tdbre",,ge, not now likely to take place, although many PPlea clid i n o. were in a forward state of preparation for the OW n 'i , lll oA cccccccßlß ß asoooite e eanlor l irineti f entiok a i:e:le s t,iy.Loresrm i nye:d:stagas, Ea k:rdeirr:holc i :sov o L:e.. f ......isc....rd - i rni.gu vz Lew . uw i o:„..o„T„ t . towto.Jm n .." . ::: :lo.4l:, Browne, D.—Mayo, Browne, J.—Me A " • Carew, IL S.— ail_ _.oru 4 , JCD:nrberbsys,,, Hon. c.B . . . . . .14 .1 1g Evans, n, Sir C0..,,,,i Ferguson, Sir it-- 1,00d .1t Lilli Cp. 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