The Sun. — London, England, 1833-02-13 00:00:00

~.~--~.- I \ 1%1/4 VIC&CRA.NCELLOR'S COURT, Fn. 11, THIS 19° IN S. ER took the Chs,oll yore about f rcii ,e Lord ir. Marsh all, 1 v." 11 the Ministe".ls3, I with the o°' uniforcm r t pe of the day was dope. .tate carriage u , t h e court arP.,:sed graciously IA DAY•) ,LS sat to-d 3Y : p tie d that in future PlEl l • GArt the fa case, re prese The ,po a d present." suit U 1 ) institute a 1)1 a bond givi nesen tative e , b oo hi c h had n ot to be set do lle is t raised by cu lt) Id feel no di' . ....__ ol' !i• an d Agu it" ' n r, w ilso.- a nd Oil ill, with 05°' nAY' .(THIS- TD OTHE R iv,P . the Court of hick Lin manor, in:oere ity 7 to whi c ' tit ‘ l' upon the 10 3 . lord. Dints of Court, and th e tiff. DAY.) the law_ vl'lll ---- j' d upon g red upon .nUt n 111 , bd rtunate ; h o, ure, vi 4" hgg by threate!, ble nature . . e of the Rev' , 14 !Tight, Feb' do t am bound, net the Horrou;to e m, as slnfu l D: nely End, P' - o g I attend to 6 „ ° ,01 hear the no d! a it, but C pr i g l ec ting of g o g ot. :e sinful life.. ' fo! is of all t a f ' o o Pray tap e " b e t e' t you 11)•• • rier• Dying s ' n ~j(11 ) ge t their 0,0, [AS ATT"' S DAY) • 36 Trutte . ' ) AIVIES 43 . ) L• 2 ° t° 2 15 4 3 15 'I 4 0 i W 110 009/ :es barely , s-- .c 2 5 to 0, 0 0 /1 ' l5 a 11 177: : 4 0 ✓ B t,' :es barelY ° 0 1 ippon. is d• m 34d. tO 41' S). 11. •J• 603. fi ne 6 91 Anc, -s. 545 fir"` # f s'!B. 43°1' 6 34 ' CO 28. 60s. 6° , 4 . -s. 504. „r` e doe. s s . 355. -3. -3. " ' P . 04. 303. 6nl -3. 1 7 6-35 ' 6 0 1 4 ' I '' 126. TY! 44 1 0 tss. 424. 6n ;oh _ c -8. Ile .-461, Its. 383. n e e d i -3. 563. fin flo C ti' kt 33. 553. -3. --s. 193 finS., foe , -8. 9'. 6 0 •'•' - -8 8. - '203. 11Pql ---S. 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COLEURN. i°j. case Mr. KNIGHT, on Saturday last, obtained an 4 1, 1 t a- h t e iect`i i r'en atts, z t o Parte fretn proprietor and on behalf of the plaintiff, Mr. restr ' ain the defendant, Mr. Colburn, who publisher of the Court Journal, he t , t l ubl 'hing a weekly newspaper, of which notice had d whi c h Z a _ d y Rir-n by advertisements and otherwise, and title nf 4r4 to have appeared on Saturday last, under the C4 ro ,the Naval and Military Gazette, or Weekly th e ( - I ", ic ie °f the United Service, upon the ground that pron,"ndant had pirated the title of a weekly paper, the Nis,„ t h t Y, of Mr, Watts, which was to be devoted to the tio,:l e ets, and which was also announced for publica tie, "Cl' Saturday l ast, under the title of the United Ser- T eA ze tte, and Nava/ and Military Chronicle. bur n) to y o Mr. P EPYS appeared on the part of r. Col. kr. \ Move to dissolve the injunction. boar of KN IovIT Objected to their appearing at that late Air the day to dissolve the inj• nction. ver y e ,, l4 _ a ,P . l's said that his client . h . ad already sustained tr itzt ,, d u ° iderahle damage by this injunction having been lie f e l, u pon the assumed similarity of the two papers. o'4 ';' u te that, if t h e Court had been made fully aware sot b t ae cir cumstances of the case, the injunction would lat4ve been granted on Saturday, just an hour before its "d 'd Publ' • '- The v Ication. the& IC E 'CIiANCELLOR said that he knew nothing of -C "tho 1 • before him on Saturday -to th e only question was tiott ntailarity of the titles, and upon the represents "' • •n. 1 . ;1 mad e he granted the injunction. cotiat i d er °l4 ° l lw, after bearing Counsel and affidavits at of the t able length, said he thought, looking at the titles that PaPers and the mode in which they were printed or e e i ul d of four years old, who was sent to purchase Il tn erilt could not mistake the one for the other. ii,tit-cloght th e best plan to pursue, under all the mourn Kt „, itnp e t4 '. wo uld be t o l et th e d e f en d an t p u bli s h his present without any p re j u di ce to the generalinjunction. he tato d ?uld allow th e p l a i nt iff to file such affidavits as bear l° ans wer to th ose o f th e d e fendant, and he would tl4 e Parti es f ully to-morrow, when h would decide 4 54 1 . 44, 1 question upon a close examination e of the T 6,1 Court rose at a quarter after five. TUESDAY. Th. WATTS V. COLBURN. th :* °gni:Rents of Counsel were resumed again to-day, 4 4 411 18 c aaci Mr. KNIGHT and Mr. WARWICK having Eli e e N' i support of the continuance of the injunc t i on. "tki h — O.ltoun said, that it was not necessary for h im b to ve t) , l a other side, as the case appeared to him to e h a 41 Riti e ' t ar ° fle• It was proved beyond all doubt, that t . e vil lt 4' title, the United Service Journal, w as first b , l l the defendant, Mr. Colburn , as appl icab le to his O r ki for it was spoken of in two advert isements por e °a held in his hand, and which had been printed 4 Pi' t t ! 'i , ° _ t lvn years ago. Now it appeared to his Ha .e clear, that the conception of using the tern; tiy Service Journal by the plaintiff, was borrowe d IPl'e lttl ed fr °in the preconception of the defendant. It ;:- clearly from the affidavits, that the plaintiff i q rai as l;te back as the 30th of January, that the Nii 4 4 - , 4 " intended to bring out his paper on the 9th :of t1 4,/,'Y; this app eared from the two advertisements in nws aper. It could not, therefore, e 14 ► 4 t Y purp e ose p that the plaintiff had delayed up t o Pti: t ri Morning of the publication of the defendant 's .. * Lip ~4 cowing to this Court to obtain an in unction, , , - L e Other part could not be heard in opposition to 't[l: 4 " c onduct on y the part of the plaintiff was neither t hat " Q r fair towards the defendant. His Honour thought i, t4l 4P : 4 i nspecting the two papers, both as to their titles 1 1 :t i n - tn° deinwhiclt they were printed ; no man . in tthly;* could take one for the o th er, in his opinion L ere as to tally distinct as any two things could pos -4(1 Ile vias;finally, of opinion that as the plaintiff b° 40 4 : t acted fairly or justly by the defendant, either in '°4l,: i4 g his title, or in the delay which he create d trep i t , to this Court for the injunction, that the injunction Itirin thi s case should b e d i sso l ve d w i t h costs . noßoun rose at four o'clock. e°IJ RT OF BANKRUPTCY, FEB. 12. A kit 'UOMAS MONCK MASON'S BANKRUPTCY. 4 1 „ 4 '14 4 4 44 ing of the creditors under the fiat of bankruptcy against Mr. T. M. Mason, late lessee of the e Xt ki l heatre, was held yesterday afternoon for the final 1, I'h: 4 :ion of the bankrupt, the proof of debts, &c. f 4 'half ' r ot question considered was the claim made on L . 4 114 o f k Signora Troll to be admitted to prove for 28,400 a pp ring the balance of 48,000 francs stipulated to :rtt ' 0 her by Mr. Mason, pursuant to a contract en. s 'tk," l ' s _ t ° at Milan, whereby she agreed to perform during sun. M "Cli Mason sta'ed the nature of the agreement kal 411 into th„, • The Signora had refused to attend rehear- Nag }, she had kept the music three weeks, and he 14 t1,„,7 ed considerable injury. She was to have sung 1); 4 " of a statue. 41 4 ' re ceipts of Mr. Mason during the season had been tr ow l th -- -From the Italian Opera, 38,583/. 18s. ' 11 4 4 4 1 4 . ' tellch ditto, 3,522/. 10s. ; from the German, n I ; from miscellaneous, 2,2771. 19s. 4d. ; 11, e ° 't total of 54,939/. 19s. lid. IN:.....: l Peoses during the season had been as fol -176601.'0rr conducting the French and Italian Opera, , 5 1 1tt,8 0 , 4. 9 d. ; for the German, 6,358/. ; for the terl t '' . °9l 190. 3d. ; f o r th e o r ch e stra, 6,4481 Os. 2d.; 16 . 0 50 i. for miscellaneous, 11,4701. Os. 4d. ; I The 4tutal of 66,256/., and showing a loss 3 C o e i ~.uNtissioNera said be was glad to b ear from 'Oll, 41. K. th e official assignee, that the accounts were 1110 ti table. He then asked Mr. Mason the usual 4, ' l ' and that gentleman passed his final examina- Nip I'4 d ebtse proved to-day were small. —The pro- RI rur ned. Sk t. - - TRI4°'(,VALUABLE AUTOGRAPH LET -63 and SINGULAR MANUSCRIPTS. 1 6 1° 4 1 1 . 'tic% Gave examined a very interesting and curious col -140t,te,, Zaeutograph letters and manuscripts at Mr.Evans's re they are now exhibiting previous to the sale. ' W h ere tn t exception the most important assemblage of ' , al -a that were ever in the possession of one indivi- IL aisd ` t a r,, We cannot but entertain hopes that many of k t ..a v th 'e purchased as literary treasures to adorn our lns titutions. Some of them are historical, and tl e ll atl ' ,: i t : i 'lera . ble light on e . vents of peculiar interest ; r ee t s t i,. , admit us to the private thoughts, and to the In tercourse, of the most distinguished characters tit ,cast three centuries. We have, for instance, a most tt.':(44lilicvg w M e er of Mil-on, with documents relating to al ( ' only knon autograph of Ariosto ; the t ji , "ter of Luther to tLe Emperor Charles the Fifth; m4. l atrZ et trious secr e t negotiations of James the Second %it re the C a th o li c religion into England ; and let piLkt an original drawing, by Michael Angelo. We g 4f llte 41 4 ' notice the secret negotiations for erecting Bel ly, t° an independent kingdom in 1789, with a letter lait e . ' Pitt on the subject, the whole tieing, we imagine, ! t Pie % ilt ty to the world ; nor must be forget an important ;hiel l ! letters of the great Marlborough, from one of fare ,we lear n that he was at one period upward . s of five ! vvuhi_ ° , t. u the power of the enemy without their know uNed "e must observe, that the catalogue is admirably ,; ( l ais t - ' The series is very well classified, the first con k% ar t he autographs of sovereign Princes, atnongst t4 ici, t hose of Henry the Fourth of France, Mary de N te o i C harles the Fifth, the various members of the 4 lt ti c" ty :s il A ijz i o e ih d n iel, Christina and Charles the Twelfth of Sobiesky, Henry the Seventh and Eighth, eenti )etli, Mary Queen of Scots, Charles the F . irst ti lt Thi rd °, Oliver Cromwell, James the Second, William St ots,' Queen Anne, and a variety of others, some of Nvlt t h oilet : rand ern and singularly curious. Those of great k w ' , A t th en foll ow , suc h as . Richelieu, Mazarin, De Eta Regent of Scotland, Sir Philip Sydney 4 ef , l. ' kicon, Sir Edward Coke, Lord Strafford, an.,%11 `"bur f 7.+ Y ; then eminent military characters; but 's Peculi ar l y r i c h i n re f ormers , churchmen,. ar y ,'lEt ticer n , t—Nlartin Luth e r, Metancthon, Arm nus 1, 14 4 4 tis nelon, Bossu r t, Jeremy Taylor. Sl Vtlper Lite.?tie characters have next their place, among i / st y °4 ,l ne a t ', i 'cos, Sir Isaac Newton, Vesalius, Boyle, Sir tts ttiaC 4 li ' t4 ' ' 'way others. Among the poets is almost Atti e P.."l'l3lled natne—Ariosto Tasso, Alfieri, Me ilaLe4,!'t;tirni7eille, Racine, Cowley, Dryden, Poye..— h.tsstl) Fttatd ett ,"—Michael Angelo, Poussio, Carlo Dolce, " r andt, Sir J. Reynolds, Gainsborough. foi.-tond lavish expenditure must have been corn it'g this collection. • A b It, ak 4 11 1t:Z 110 1 :i t i ib t o 4 : R CHARACTER.—There is living "hood of 13ankfhot, a man 40 years of i u 4 4 ; 4 11 t hi 3 ne :er 10 miles fiom home ; never slept . a k eai Ne w own bed ; never drank a gill in a public esr tipsy in his life but once ; never wanted Ich 1 '44 1 . quart er t h 6 1, stl , 0 1 an hour past his regular time ; and I li , ea, "Y e illness. Although he never was at rrse t i j 'ay bread well, and understands his Bible better : t ra r', his ester scholars. No change has been oh , us a sulhments for the last twenty years. He 0. 1 , 1 wea ver ertl 4A , , h and is as regular in his attendance 4 " .0 44:4! in all the other actions of his lile.— eser. . • K„„. No. 12,614.) SECOND EDITION. S UN-OFFICE, Seven o' clock. IMPERIALPARLIAMENT THIS EVENING. HOUSE OF LORDS. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY took his seat on the Wool sack, to-day, shortly before four o'clock, and, after post poning some private business, their Lordships adjourned till to-morrow, at three o'clock. LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 13, 1833. ther he intended to diminish the number of the Irish Bishops in the House of Peers ? Lord ALTHORP said that it was not the intention of Government to diminish the number of Bishops in the House of Peer.. _ Mr. HUME begged leave to ask the Hon. Member for Staffordshire opposite (Mr. Lyttleton), who was a member of the Ecclesiastical Commission, whether the Ministers had directed their attention to the subject of the motio❑ of the Hon. Member for Colchester? The Noble Lord's objection seemed to be, that there was at present no measure before the House which would require the assistance of these returns. It was clear however, that if the Church of England were at any time to come under the revision of the House like the Church of Ireland, it would be absolutely necessary that the House should have the information now sought to be obtained. Besides, if the returns should show that the amount of property in the hands of the Bishops was large, that of itself might be a rea son for bringing the subject under the revision of the House. It had been said that the property in the hands of bishops and clerical corporations, was not more than suffi cient to pay the whole clergy ; and he was not prepared to say in opposition to those who had made the subject their study, that the case was not as they said ; but sup. posing that, instead of being worth a million of money, that property were worth ten millions, would not the Noble Lord consider this amount so excessive, compared with the duties to be performed, as to make it his duty to revise its distribution? The Noble Lord had stated last night, that much exaggeration had existed with respect to the vslue of Church property in Ireland, and that he himself had thought it much more than it proved to be. Now, might it not happen that the property of the Church in England had been equally exaggerated ? At any rate, they ought not longer to be kept in ignorance. Perhaps, in altogether opposing the motion of the Hon. Member for Colchester, the Noble Lord had better lay it before the ecclesiastical commission, and consult them as to the possibility of obtaining the information required. Cer tain he was, that some way or other it must soon be bad. Mr. LYTTLETON, as one of the ecclesiastical com missioners referred to, had no hesitation in saying, that compliance with the motion of the Honourable Member would not produce the information required. The only way in which it could be obtained was by va luing all the Church property, which would materially delay the report which the Commissioners were anxious to make. He would tak , ..: that opportu nity of observing, that never in the whole course of his life, had he met with any body of gentlemen more anxious to forward the public business, and give the fullest information required of them, than the Prelates of the Church of England, with whom he was brought in contact. He had not met with a single instance of conduct which did not do them credit. Mr. D. W. HARVEY said that the Noble Lord's prin cipal objection, namely, the expense of procuring the in formation, hardly afforded a sufficient answer to a motion of this kind. He did not see there would be mnch delay oc casioned i❑ furnishing this information, because it was not an inquiry that would have to be directed to all those per sons whe were in any way connected with Church property, but merely to the Bishops and Corporations. He submitted that this was not only proper information to be given,but that this was the fittest period at which it could be given. He was, as the Hon. Member for Middlesex had said, quite sure sooner or later this information would have to be supplied. If the Noble Chancellor of the Exchequer had come to a determination not to yield to the mo tion, he would not push the question to a divi sion at this moment, but at some future period he assuredly would. The Hon. Member then withdrew his motion, and gave notice that he would bring it i❑ this day week. . . _ The Marquis of CHANDOS was desirous from a cor respondence he had seen yesterday, to put a question to the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of the Ad miralty, which was, whether or not there was an order of the Admiralty which precluded officers in the Admiralty having command being in Parliament.• If so, how was it that a Member who served in the House last Session, had the command of a frigate, and another was in actual command in the River during the whole time he was in Parliament ? Sir JAMES GRAHAM had not the least hesita tion in saying, that there was no order of the Admiralty which disqualified a naval officer sitting in Parliament from having the command. It was the in variable practice, and it appeared to be the paramount duty of the individual holding the office he now had the honour to fill, of exercising a discretion in the selection of the officers who were appointed to a command connected with great public duties. If the Noble Marquis should think proper to call in question before that House, the exercise of his discretion in the particular cases to which allusion had been made, it would be desirable that he should bring the question forward in the shape of a specific charge.—(Hear, hear.) The Noble Mar quis was correct in the two instances he had referred to. There could be no doubt that, generally speaking, there was a great difference between the situation of a gentle man chosen by a large body of constituents to represent them in Parliament, and being able to devote the whole of his time there, to that of a gentleman whose active duties required constant residence elsewhere. Mr. O'CONNELL moved that an humble address be presented to his Majesty, praying that his Majesty would be pleased to direct returns of all the electors resident in each town and city in Ireland entitled to vote at the last general election. Mr. HENRY GRATTAN wished to know whether the Hon. Member had excluded from that return the Uni versity of Dublin? Mr. O'CONNELL observed that his motion did not include the University of Dublin. That must be the subject of a specific and separate motion. Mr. SHAW saw no objection to the motion, but he confessed he could not see the object of it. After some observations from Lord ALTHORP, which were totally inaudible in the gallery, the motion was agreed to. Mr. O'CONNELL observed that yesterday, in conse quence of the statements of the Noble Lord opposite, the Right Honourable Member for Cambridge had moved for a return of all the benefices in Ireland, in which the Divine service of the Church of England had not been performed during the last three years. With the permission of that Right Hon. Member he should wish to substitute in that return the word " parishes" for the word " benefices." If the Right Hall. Member would not allow the adoption of such an altera tion, he (Mr. O'Connell) would feel it his duty to make a specific motion on the subject. Mr. GOULBURN thought the alteration contemplated by the Hon. Member was calculated to produce great injustice, because in many cases, where parishes had been joined, in one of those parishes the service of the Church of Ireland might not have been performed for the last three years, and yet the petitioners had received the benefit of divine service in the other parish. Mr. O'CONNELL said that the result of his motion would he, that the House would have a return from all the benefices, and from all the perishes within those bene fices. He knew of one benefice that was twenty-seven miles in length. In one parish, there were but twenty six Protestants, and there was not a Church within a distance of twenty-five miles. Lord ALTHORP objected to the notice, as framed by the Honourable and Learned Member. Mr. O'CONNELL consented to withdraw his motion, and said he would shape one in such a manner as would afford all the information which he required. The motion was then withdrawn. Mr. WARRE moved for a return of all vessels belong ing to the Royal Nsvy that have been lost by shipwreck since the Ist of January 1816. SESSIONAL ORDERS. On the motion of Lord ALTHORP, the order of the day for resuming the adjourned &bate upon the Sessional Orders was read. The Noble Lord, after observing that the motion which he had made did not on the first discussion meet such a favourable reception, stated that he was not prepared to press it, but would move that it be referred to a select committee. The Noble Lord then moved the usu d sessional order relative to the inter ference of Peers, Lord Lieutenants of Counties, Sze., at elections. Mr. D. W. HARVEY, after alluding to the late case of the Baron Le Bode, said that the Committee of Justice, which fornp-rly been a mere for mal matter, would, if now appointed, be must h to take such cases into their consideration. In such Committee they could be much better considered than be fore the whole House, attended as it was likely to be now after being reformed. Lord ALTMORP agreed with the Hon. G,mtleasn, but he did not see there was any necessity to have a stand ing committee for such a purpose, as the House could nt an y ti me appoint a Select Committee, if a cage requiring it came before it. Mr. BARING said that very few of those personal claims came before the House, but were some of the greatest jobs. After a few words from Mr. LITTLETON, Mr. GOUL BURN, and Mr. ROEBUCK, the sessional order relative to bribery was put. Mr. O'CONNELL proposed a slight alteration in it. As it at present stood it denounced the vengeance of the House only upon an individual who had procured for himself to be returned to that House by means of bribery. He proposed that the order should he so altered as to in clude the individual who had either procured himself to be returned by bribery, or through the bribery of others. Lord J. RUSSELL thought the amendment might lead to the implication of innocent parties. After a few words from Mr. GOULBURN, and Mr. O'CONNELL, The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said, that, with all submission to the House, it was of very little conse quence in what form their order was put, for till the law was amended, all hope of putting down bribery must be laid aside. The courts of justice had determined, and that House had recognized their decisions, that there was no bribery unless by previous contract. The " miller " might go round, or " cheesecake" might be distributed after an election, it having been perfectly well understood from the beginning that five or ten pounds should be given to every voter, and yet legal bribery would not have taken place. He, therefore, most earnestly expressed his hope the' his Noble Friend, the Paymaster of the Forces, would give his best exertions to the subject, without which the Reform Bill would not be perfect. Mr. SHEIL said it struck him that there were but two effectual preventives against bribery. Respecting one or them there might be raised doubt, namely, the imposition of an oath upon the candidates. The next was, that if an Act of Parliament was introduced to give the power of exhibiting interrogatories by the House to the candidate without releasing him from the necessity of answering questions that might implicate himself, that would be the most effectual mode of putting a atop to the carrcpt system. Mr. O'CONNELL proposed, as one of the modes of punishment, to make the guilty candidate liable to the pay ment of all the expenses upon the bribery being proved. He could not but regard the practice of giving sumptuous breakfasts, dinners, to two or three pounds by indivi duals, as in substance bribery. His great object was to bring before the House cases of unsuccessful bribery, and which were not likely otherwise to be brought forward. Successful cases of bribery were likely to be brought for ward by the defeated candid ite, and they would be more frequently brought before the House if it were not for the outrageous expense attending it. No person could bring a ease of bribery before the House from a remote part of the kingdom, or from a borough in Ireland with out the expense of from 1,0001. to 5,0001. There ought to be some cheaper mode—some cheaper stimulant of getting at justice. He proposed that there should be a standing committee of probably twelve Hon. Members, entitled to take into consideration all undue interference of Peers and others in the election of Members to serve in Parliament. In his own county he had known no less than five, six, or seven Peers advertising in the public newspapers for a gentleman to come forward and stand for a county, they pledging them selves to support him. He could mention several cartes in Ireland in which enormous sums had been refused by per sons for their vote. In one instance, which be could name, an individual who was not worth twenty pounds in the world, had not refused less than two hundred pounds for his vote. The SPEAKER then put the question, and Mr. RUTHVEN rose—He did so, not for the purpose of opposing the proposition, but for the purpose of en treating the House to preserve their character. He had read a report of a Noble Marquis's speech some time ago, how for it was true he could not say, in which that Noble Marquis had been pleased, in speaking of the House, to use language which he considered highly improper; he had said that hitherto it had been an honour to he a representative of the people in that House, but it was now no longer so,—it had been con verted into a receptacle for gamblers, and men who wished to avoid the payment of their debts, and not of persons who came there for the interest of the nation. It was also full of persons belonging to Political Unions. (LEFT SPEAKING ) IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, FEBBU ARY (Concluded from our Second Edition of Yesterday.) Mr. CLAY presented a petition from the inhabitant householders of Shoredirch, praying for a repeal of the house and window tax. The petitioners expressed their confidence in the intentions of his Majesty's Government to reduce the taxation of the country, and they were most unwilling to embarrass them. At the same time they considered it necessary to call the attention of the Legis lature to the unequal and very grievous nature of the taxes. The lion. Member expressed his entire concur rence in the prayer of the petition, and would take another opportunity of expressing more at large his sentiments on the subject. At present he would only say that the tax was most objectionable, especially as it pressed with such peculiar severity on the working classes. Mr. COBBETT gave notice to the Noble Lord oppo site, that on his proposal to go into a Committee of Supply, his intention was to submit to the House a statement of the grievances of the people with regard to taxation, to show its monstrous inequality—to demonstrate, that in some cases the poor man paid forty times as much as the rich man, and that on an average he paid ten times as much. He hoped he could then show to the satisfac tion of the House, that until some specific pledge was given as to its reduction, they should not go into a Committee of Supply.—(Hear.) Mr. HUME begged to ask, whether his Majesty's Go vernment were prepared to state the day on which they , would come down to the House, and announce their in. tention respecting the reduction of taxation. Lord ALTHORP said the balance sheet, as far as it had gone, at present looked I...vourable, but he could not at present say how it was likely to be at the end of the) ear. evils under which that country labolirs. Nine years ago, I bad the honour of submitting to this House a motion with respect to the state of Ireland, though I do not pretend to say that, at the time, I was fully acquainted with the circumstances in which Ireland was placed, or that, unconnected as I am with that country, I could be wholly aware of the grievances which afflicted it. But it must be evident to the House that the grievances which I then selected would be those which then pressed most prominently on our attention. I wish to recall to the recollection of the gentlemen who then heard me, what the grievances were which I then stated to exist. I stated then, as t must state now, that many of the grievances of Ireland were entirely beyond the reach of legislative enactments—Cl - fear, hear;-- were grievances which it was utterly impossible any laws could entirely remedy. I said then, as now, that those grievances must depend on the inhabitants of the country itself; upon the good feeling of parties one towards another; and upon the conduct of both the richer and the poorer classes in their relative conditions. The grievances I then stated were several. Catholic disabilities was one which I brought forward ; the ex clusion of office by law at that time ; the existence of Orange and Ribbon Societies, which occasioned great evil to the country ; the tithe system ; the Church Establishment; the Grand Jury cess ; the taxes that pressed heavily on the people of Ireland ; and the ob jectionable laws between landlord and tenant. I should wish now to draw the attention of the House to those as they now exist, and in their altered state. The Catholic disabilities are remov.d. and therefore I have nothing to say on that point. With regard to Catholics being employed under Government, to which reference has been made, the only rule Go verntnent ought to have in view is not to con sider the religion of the party employed, but impartially to select those who will best discharge the duties of office.—(Loud cheers.) In a former de bate, it was stated that in the case of stipendiary Ma gistrates, no Catholics had been employed. I believe that to be a mistake. I don't know the number, but some Catholics have been appointed. Mr. Gahan and Mr. Baldwin, I believe are both Catholics; but whether that be so or not, I can assure the House the question of religion was not made a consideration in the appointment. The appointment being one of a temporary nature, the individuals selected were selected impartially to ful fil the office. Another observation has been made with respect to the Sheriffs. That is accidental, because in former years Catholic Sheriffs had been appointed, and it is merely accidental that in this year they are not; they are all, I believe, Protestants.—(A cry of " All but one.") But with respect to the Lord Lieutenants of the counties, several of them have been selected from the Catholics. With respect to other appointments, Catholics have been in them; and I sin sure Government will not do its duty if it does not continue to appoint Catholics where they are fit for office, just as readily as they would appoint Protestants_(Loud cheering)—end as the majority of Irishmen are Catholics, I apprehend, as their education and fitness for office increases, no doubt in proportion appointments will be given to the Catholic population. Now the next grievance is the state of the Orange Societies. I sincerely believe that the feelings which produced those societies still continue to exist. We showed our inclination to put down these societies by the Bill which we passed during the last Session. With respect to the tithe system, Sir, the great griev ance is, the mode in which it interferes with the power of the occupiers in the cultivation and im provement of the soil, without the improvement going against the interest of the party who has im proved the land. In the principles on which we have gone, in endeavouring to eradicate these evils, we have not given satisfaction to all ; but that prin ciple has always been based on an endeavour to take away from the occupier of the soil those burdens that bear most upon him. With respect to the Grand Jury presentments my Right Honourable Friend will shortly present a measure for the consideration of the House, and it will be for it to amend or alter it as it may think proper.—(Cheers.) With respect to the Church establishment, the tithes that press upon Ireland, the internal tithes, are not great in smothers, but they press heavily upon Ireland. I admit, Sir, the pressure of taxation upon Ireland, which at pre sent acts most grievously upon one of its principal manu factures, namely, soap, which, though not taxed in Ireland, but in England, yet from the mode in which the drawback is paid in England, produces a most unjust pressure on the people of Ireland. With respect to that, Sir, 1 have a remedial plan to offer to the House. I can assure the House that whatever can be done, shall be done for Ireland. We have always shown our inclination to do so and ever will ; but the great cause of the evils of Ireland, Sir, is its want of capital.—(Hear, hear.) That, Sir, can only be remedied by the preservation of peace and good order, by which means people will be encouraged to lay out their capital in the country.—(Loud cheering.) Now, Sir, the only other point to which I alluded at that time was, the transactions between I indlord and tenant. This must be considered as without the range of legislative enactments, but at that time great complaints were made of the interpretation put upon contracts oetween landlords and tenants by the Courts of Justice. Several witnesses, Sir, who appeared to be acquainted with the state of Ireland, were of that opinion. I new come to the question of the Church Establishment of Ireland, of which it might be said, that, like all other important question., the longer it was delayed, the more would it be expected that the remedy should be effective which it would be proposed to have provided.—(Hear, hear, hear.) Upon this question many others had arisen, and of these not the least was the exaggerated difference between the amount of the population of Ireland, and that of the Church Este blishiment. I confess that I believe I have ex aggerated that difference in my own mind. The first part of the revenues of the Church of Ireland comprises the revenues attached to the bishoprics. I ant sure I shall surprise the House, after what they have heard upon this subject, when I state that by the returns we have had of the actual revenues of the Bishops, the net amount of the sees is only 130,0001. a year. The gross amount is 150,0001., but the net amount is only 130,0001. It is certainly true that a very large tract of country belongs to the Bishops of Ireland, but, Sir, the Bishops have not themselves the beneficial interest in that value. Those, in fact, to whom they lease the land, have five-sixths of the value. The amount of the real value is somewhat about 600,0001., but obviously the Bishops do not receive more than 100,0001. This, I apprehend, partly accounts for the exaggerated ideas which gentlemen entertain of the ecclesiastical revenues in Ireland. With respect to the deans and chapters, their whole incomes amount to 23,606/. a year, but the necessary expenditure, before it can be divided, amounts to 21,400/, being little more than a surplus of 2,206/. a-year. With respect to the value of the other benefices in Ireland I am not prepared to give any very accurate statement. The Church com mission has called for returns, but from a number of these no returns have been made. It is, therefore, only from a calculation, founded upon the average of the returns we now have before us, that we can arrive at any proper estimate. The whole of the other benefices amount to 1,401 ; those from which we have received returns amount to 1,149, which leave 373. The whole amount of the revenue will be 580,000/. a year ; but we may take it at 600,000/., and in that we do not go below the fair calculation. According, then, to the statement I have made, the Bishops receive 130,000/. ; and the Deans and Chapters, not the holders of other benefices, receive 23,606/., and the amount of the other benefices is 600,000/., so that the total revenue of the Church of Ireland, applicable to its support and maintenance, does not exceed 800,0001. I have wished, Sir, to go into this detail, and to press it particularly upon the House, in consequence of the exaggeration that prevails, and which might prevent gentlemen from corning cahnly to the consideration of the subject. Now I appre hend that whiaever difference of opinion there may be as to the right of Parliament to interfere with this property', all those who think it has a right to take a part of that property and apply it to the State, as well as those who think Parliament has no such right ! ell will agree that the first claim upon the property is from the Church itself, if the Church Establishment is to be maintained a t a ll. If not , t h ose who thi n k so will not agree with me. It will, however, be generally agreed that the revenues of the Church, as at present existing, ought to be applied to the necessary purposes for supporting and giving to the people the benefit of the Church. Now Sir, are these purposes at presei.t provided for as they should Ire? Sir, we have heard statements of benefices where there its no duty performed, or where there is no church ? aid wherc there is SHIPPJNG INTEREST. Mr. YOUNG gave notice th it, on the 22d of April, be should move for the appointment of a Select Committee on the shipping interet. ADDRESS TO HIS MAJESTY. The SPEAKER announced that the House bad attended his M , jesty this day with the address of the House, to which his Majesty had been pleased to return the following most gracious answer : " I thank you for your loyal and dutiful address ; I rely with confidence on your determination to support me in main taining inviolate the Legislative Union between Great Britain and Ireland, and you may be assured, that in exercising the powers of the Government to repress all acts of insubordina tion and violence I shall feel it to be my duty to assist you in applying such remedies as may be required for removing all just grounds of complaint in every part of my dominions." Loud cheers followed this answer, especially from the Opposition. IRISH CHURCH REFORM. Lord ALTHORP rose at half-past five, and addressed the House UR follows : —ln coming forward to propose the measure of which I have given notice, I do so because it is a measure connected with the government of Ireland. I am quite sure it will not be considered by any gentleman who has heard me speak, that I come forward to perform this duty because I am more competent than my Right Hruourable Friend, the Secretary for Ireland. I doubt not but that he would have performed this task much better than myself, but as this is a measure of his Majesty's Government, it has been thought best, by myself and colleagues, to follow the example set us by preceding Administrations, and appoint a person standing in the highest situation in this House, to bring forward this measure, rather than the particular Minister, to whose department it might naturally be thought to belong.—(Hear, hear, hear.) I will not, however, detain the House by apologies for myself, but will pro making any ceed to explain, as clearly as I can, the grounds of the measure I intend to propose, and the provisions I should wish to submit for your consideration. In the first instance, however, I think it desirable to go back a little into the history of the legislation of Ireland, in order to show what hats 4eentione,anti what gill =aim to 1)e done, to remedy HOUSE OF COMMONS. Mr. TENNYSON obtained leave to bring in a Bill to amend the mode of collecting the rates, &c. Ste., in the parish of St. Giles, Camberwell. Captain YORKE presented a petition from the Isle of Ely, praying that the duty on Licensed Victualling might be taken off. The llonourable Member could not coincide with the prayer of the petitioners, believing that the tax on public houses was a most proper tax. Mr. SHAW presented a petition from the traders of Dublin, praying for the more due observance of the Lord's Day. Mr. O'CONNOR presented a petition from a parish in Cork, praying for the total abolition of tithes. He trusted that the measure which bad been brought forward by Ministers last night would be productive of good effects; but he considered he should be practising a cheat upon the House, if he did not state that he thought that measure would not produce satisfaction in Ireland. The people were determined to petition the House, as long as a grievance remained. Sir GEO. CAYLEY presented a petition from Scar borough, praying that that corporation might be elective. Mr. OSWALD presented a petition from the soap makers of Glasgow, for the repeal of the duties on soap. Mr. O'CONNELL supported the prayer of the petition. An How. MEIIIIER trusted that the prayer of the peti tion would be listened to in this respect, and that some thing would be done to remove a tax which pressed so heavily on the poor. Mr. PELHAM presented a petition from Coningsby, praying for the extinction of slavery. Sir F. BURDETT presented a petition from the parish of St. Anne, Westminster, praying for the repeal of the house and window tax.—(Hear.) Sir J. HOBHOUSE said he had been instructed to support the prayer of the petition, and he could assure the House that the same feeling that pervaded the pa rish of Sr. Anne, relative to those taxes, pervaded all other parishes in Westminster. He hoped that his Ma jesty's Ministers would see whether they could not, con sistently with the state of the revenue, do something to re lieve the country of these burdens.—(Hear, hear.) Sir M. W. RIDLEY stated that the saute feeling re specting these taxes prevailed in all pats of the country, and if his Majesty's Government would pay some atten tio❑ to this subject, they would render more imme diate and effectual relief, than by the repeal of any other tax.—(Hear, bear.) He hoped the Chancellor of the Exchequer would see that it was his duty to give his attention tirst to this subject, and repeal a tax which pressed so heavily on th- industrious classes. Mr. COBBETT said, that the house and window-tax did not press so heavily on the industrious classes as some others he could name, but it was more odious on ac. count of its great partiality—its great and notorious partiality. The burdens were heavy enough in them selves; laws though severe might he just, but they could not be just if partially administered. If any propo sition should be made to put money into the hands of the King's servants on the vote for the supply, he should make a statement which he thought would in duce the House to consider whether a change should not I;e made in the manner of imposing the taxes. In some instances the poor man paid forty times, and in many instances ten times, as much as the rich, and that was the great ground of complaint—the poor man paying the taxes for the rich, who received them. He, however, would do the Noble Lord the justice to say that he did not believe the Noble Lord was aware of the very grievous manner in which the taxes were imposed. An How. MEstraErt, whose name we could not learn, said the house and window taxes were more degrading than any other tax, and he was quite sure that many persons who kept large establishments found means to evade the payment of taxes, and throw the burden of them on the middling and lower classes. Mr. JOHN PENTON (we believe) presented a peti tion from Rochdale, for the abolition of tithes, and for the repeal of the duties on malt and soap. Mr. WALSH brought in a Bill for holding the Sum mer Assizes for the county of Suffolk, at Ipswich.—lt was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on the 27th February. . Sir EARDLEY WILMOT presented a petition from Atherstone, in the county of Warwick, complaining of the system of the Poor Laws. On the motion of Mr. HUi\IE, a motion which he made last session, for a return of the amount of all sinecures where the offices are performed by deputy in England, Scotland, and Ireland, was real and agreed to. The HoN. GENTLEMAN then gave notice that to-mor row be would move for returns of all moneys belonging to bankrupts' estates in the Bank of England, and for the names of Council of the Governor of Jamaica, with a depo sition of the places they held. Mr. ESTCOURT presented a petition from Tetbury, praying for the better observance of the Sabbath. General PALMER presented a petition from the pa rishes of St. Peter and St. Paul in Bath, praying for the abolition of the assessed taxes; also one from the overseers and inhabitants of the parish of Walcott, in the county of Suffolk, to the same effect. Colonel LANGTON, Mr. KEMEYS TYNTE, and Mr. ROEBUCK, supported the prayer of the petition. This tax should he particularly repealed, because it mili tated against the public health, and because it pressed most grievously upon the poor. Mr. PLUMPTRE presented a petition from certain freeholders in a place in Kent, " against nocturnal le gislation."—(A laugh.) The petitioners considered it not only injurious to the health and comfort of the Mem bers of that House, but they considered earlier hours es sential to healthy and vigorous legislation. Mr. D. W. HARVEY moved for certain returns rela tive to the locality and description of ecclesiastical property charged with any rent, pension, stipend, or other payment on leases ; specifying the probable num ber of acres, and the value thereof, and the customary returns of renewal held under ecclesiastical bodies, either for years or lives. He considered these returns as neces sary in connection with the subject under discussion last night. They embraced a species of Church property as to which no returns to the ecclesiastical commission had yet been made. Lord ALTHORP said that the object of the motion, as far as he understood it, was quite unnecessary. The Commissioners were appointed to inquire into the Church revenues as applicable to the support of the Church. The Honourable Gentleman wished to know what was the estimated value of the property of the Church, as at present applicable to private individuals unconnected with the Church. It appeared to him (Lord Alchorp) that such returns were not neces sary, at all events in connection with the subject under discussion last night.—(Hear, hear.) If the returns were granted it would be absolutely necessary to have a valuation of all the Church lands, which would be extremely operose and very expensive. Under theae circumstances, as the returns would not be of the slightest use, awl would interfere with the possession of Church property by those in whose hands it had re mained for many generations, he felt himself bound to re sist the motion. Lord STORMONT begged to ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer, whether it was intended by his Majesty's Government that the money to be raised by making Bi shops' leases perpetual, was to be applied to other than to ecclesiastical purposes. Lord ALTHORI replied that he should have thought his own language, as well as that of his Right Hon. Col league last night bad been sufficiently clear upon this point. The money which would be thus raised not being consi dered by him the property of the Church, he thought it would be applicable to the purpose of the State, without raising a question upon which he knew great difference of opinion existed. Mr. HAMMOND begged to ask the Noble Lotd whe- (PRICE 7D.) a • a ..., . ;?„, mT a (minister; bat it it lit pokily' will il . . in 9Utty parts .1 Ireland, where Pro. , , it to Ise supplied with the benefit! of the there is a difficulty tin its due perforsance, cite the clergy have large enoolumentsfla - ...; l eg industrious class are very inatlecrtilatelY - and are in very distressing eircumstanei.e? 7 irly 200 livings in Ireland ofJe4 thensiOOL .le this is the case—where *eie)a-a..-4)40- ;rege4eq, IV duties required ofeOegs+gymei p , Ida t fairlk say that the clellgy havt mai alfeser rts,y,,, in the Church. For - the purpose of ' supplying the deficiency there has been a grant made out t,f the Board \sf First Fruits. This Board is differ ens in Engle d , from what it is in Ireland. Ira Ireland itsrsobject is the repair of the churches, but its England and Ireland, in consequence of the lapse of time, what is called the first fruits of livings or benefices, does not amount to any thing like what they ought to be.— ( Hear, hear.) - It was a mere pretence, and, in fact, they may be almost said, not to exist. It is, therefore, proposed to abolish the Board of First Fruits, and the system altogether ; and in lieu of that, it has several times been suggested in the House that a new valuation should take place. But the opinion of the law officers of the Crown is, that we cannot make a new valuation without an Act of Parliament. We think it best to get rid of the Board of First Fruits, and the first fruits themselves, and in lieu of them to make an annual reduction from the amount of benefices. Those which are under '2OO/. we do not propose to reduce; from those from 2001. to 500/„ we propose to take five per cent. ; from 500/. to 8001. seven per cent. ; from 800/. to 1,200/, ten per cent.; and from all above, fifteen per cent. It is difficult, for various reasons, to state what the exact amount of these deduc tions will be; but it is presumed that, upon the average, it will t b h e e a b ecclesiasticalo ut s even pe r b c e e n n e t fi . c o es n t i n h e Ir a e n l n a n u d a I . va l lu o e ug o h f t t t h o e h w a h v e o I e c b o _l' served, that it is proposed in this arrangement, whenever a Mi nister holds more livings than one, that the deductions should be made as if the produce of all the livings were the pre_ duce of one living. For instance, if a person has one of 7001, and another of 300/., it should be taxed as upon 1,000/, namely at 10 per cent. instead of the two sums of 7 and 5 per cent. In this proposition are included Deans, and Chapters, and Prebendaries. But it is evident that if this ratio should go on and affect the Bishops in the same proportion, they would be taxed unfairly, because the expenses of the Bishops exceed in proportion those of the private clergy, and it would not be fair to commence with the lowest sees with a re duction of 15 per cent., and to increase by the enormous per tentage to the highest annual amount. It is proper, therefore, to make a difference in the scale. We propose, that from all sees below 4,000 a year, 5 per cent. be de ducted; all below 6,0001. a year, 7 per cent. ; all below 10,000/. a year 10 per cent., and all above that 15 per cent. I am aware that in making, the proposition I do, I go at least the whole length which justice would justify me in going ; but when I consider the nominal amount of first fruits that have hitherto existed, and when I consider the great advantage it must be to the Church to submit to a sacrifice in order that the clergy may secure to themselves the affections of the people, I feel the strongest hope that we shall not meet with any strong opposition from them upon this point. I will say more, I have reason to hope that we shall not.—(Hear, hear.) Now, Sir, there is another circumstance , which, as it appears to me, is immediately applicable to the measure which we have in contemplation. It was stated the other night by an Honourable Member (I forget whom), that, at the time the aepointinent of the present Bishop of Derry took place, he received that appointment subject to a reduction in his income, whenever any general arrangement should take place with respect to the Church. Sir, that was correct. With respect to the revenues of the See of D rry, the greatest misapprehension prevails. The revenue of theßishop of Derry amounts, I believe, to 12,159/. a-year. It is pro posed, in consequence of the arrangement we made at the period to which I have referred, to reduce this amount to B,oool.—(Hear)—of course leaving the Bishop of Derry subject also to the reduction I have before mentioned, which upon 8,000/. will be 800/. ; that is to say, in other words, we at once reduce the ineome of the Bishop of Derry to 7,200/.—(Loud and continued cheering.) Now, Sir, I have stated what are the immediate means that will be placed at the disposal of the House, by the plans we are bringing forward. We propose that a Board of Corn. missioners shall be appointed for their management. Be. , fore I go into the temporalities of the Church, I will state the object with whieb the Board will be appointed ; and I beg to say we intend—though it will, as it neces sarily must be, be composed of members of the Church of England—we intend that every means shall be taken to render it as independent as possible. That Board will have placed at its disposal the management and distri bution of the sums I have stated, together with such other sums as may fall in under the proposition I have to make. The House will perceive that the duties which will be imposed upon the Commissioners in whose hands these funds will be placed,will not be light. I think the House will agree with me,that wherever you have a Church establishment, it is the duty of the Legislature to provide the means of religious worship, both as regards the edifices in which it is to be performed, and the expense of performing it.—(Hear, hear.) Now in Ireland great complaints have been made, and I admit they are well founded, of the mode in which this obligation of the State to maintain religious edifices has been performed. The rate levied for that purpose in Ireland has been for the most part paid by Catholics, while the management of this expenditure has been placed under the direction of a Protestant vestry. (Hear, hear.) This is a double grievance; but the Church rate, I think it will be ac knowledged, is quite of a different nature to tithes.—. (Hear, hear.) Tithe is a burden upon land, which the party who buys land knows his estate has been subjected to, and will be subjected to.—( Hear, hear.) In fact, the tithes of an estate are a part of its produce which do not belong to the owner of the rest. A church rate is of a different nature. It varies according to the manner in which it is levied and applied. By abuse lied mismanagement it may be increased to an immense ex tent, while, by frugal management, it may be as much dimi nished. It has been, therefore, a particular grievance upon the Roman Catholics, that they should have to contribute to Church rates over which they laid no control. Having stated this, the House will not be surprised to hear, that it is the determination of Government to abolish Church rates altogether.—(Loud cheers, which continued for some time.)—We estimate the annual amount of Church retrain Ireland to be between 60 and 70,000/. Now, as far as we can calculate, the means which I have stated as to be placed at the disposal of the Commissioners, they will be about 60,0001. This is certainly a smaller amount than that now de- I voted to church repairs, but from all I have heard, I am satisfied this is an expense which may be most materially dimi nished by proper management, and I have not a doubt 1 that this sum will be found sufficient. The Commissioners, I have said before, will have a most laborious duty to perform —for the expenditure which will come under review before them, must occasion an examination of numerous accounts. The other object of this fund, as it accumulates, which I shall presently show it will do, will be the augmentation of small livings, and the building of glebe houses where required, 1 under provisions similar to those now in force in England. But, Sir, as churches may be built where they are not required, it is intended to be provided that they shall not have the power of commencing the building of lama churches unless a certain sum shall have been raised by private individuals, or a certain amount of pew rents have been subscribed for.—(Cheers.) The commis sioners, of course, will have liberty to lay before Parlia ment all their proceedings. I think, Sir, that the means placed at the disposal of the Commissioners will he sufficient to cover the amount of the present Church tees. But, Sir, as there are many other mat ters that are very important to the wellbeing of the Church of Ireland, it may be said that what I have stated goes but a little way ; and I will now state to the House the prospective alterations which are hattajed to be effectel at the death of the present incumbents. At present, Sir, the revenue of the Primate of lie land, about which considerable exaggerations have gone expirationsi e so n h a e te ee: in t they altogether, ok ir a ge e r e e tt hi ui pre senteenmr, forth, amounts to about 14,4601. Now it is proposed that this should be reduced at the hl incumbency to 10,000/. a-year, and that, subjected to the reserves to which all the attic! episettpal revenues are to be subjected, will be further reduced to 0,000/. With thoserof exaggerations, the Anothera o Deans ue and ai point la respect s s p to ec a t t tb the Majesty' s tt, e D uin e o e v et teor a na n m d co Chapters, unrtel os f tos souls, ualb w s 0, connected with the cure of souls the proposition of e do l t n o e w m h o i s c t h i n l i t u n r u i :t u a s lst s l a n Pft w ri h w ic h h ie t h he c r a e n h h i i looked upon in no other light than es sin ecures , w il l h i i t a e pt l n e t e o n t r g ht ; e ioa b tlie t , the Church of Ireland. I mean, Sir, those livings, in whit no duty is or can ha performed. 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