The Sun. — London, England, 1861-07-20 00:00:00

_ ____ _ _____ ______ ........ 9ay). THIRD EDITION. SIZARE MARKET.—(TIIIS DAY). 40. ------ SUN OFFICE, Six o'clock. ORDINARY SHARES AND STOCKS. ~, Cl o sing Business AUSTRIA. Sh are Railway& Fait" Price. Done NT. Chancellor • all ) be taken 50 ! Belfast and Ballymena A Vienna letter of the 16th says :—" Several stock 14 .ant to psY drafts of answers to the Address have been sub- I B B l3 i i ir r y i t ' h . W , objectionS and Tyne all —a, aannddcShtrj.Vunaal 10 a 0 11 . _ 8 _Bl he late a. witted to the Emperor, and all Vienna anxiously stock Bristol and Exeter 10 Bost Sleaf. and-Mid.Co all 6 7 3ral houses awaits the resolution to be taken. All that is posi. stock Caledonian ... . istead of aCarmarthen &Cardigan tively known is that two Hungarian Chancellors 10 Cork and Bandon all all -- been a de- have determined on resigning at once if their drafts, 20 Cornwall ..... in which they recapitulate all the stipulated ancient 20 pork, Blrock., &Passage all — 5 — 6 CA gets no div. 10 Do A x`all sere v7asn o and historical rights of the Magyar nation, should 10 Do B • Q • all nit &MOM ( ' not be accepted by the chief of the State. It is also so , untilubeeepiirl ue.troaint Dublin & Belfast June all 42 43 25 Dun., Perth, &Ab. Juno all 81 9 i t, and IR' certain, on the other hand, that all the members of stook East Anglian lOO 171 18 the Imperial Government, withthe Archdukeßeg- stock Eastern Counties lOO 491 511 491 stock Eastern Union, A stock 100 39 41 28 30 inquiry °C ' Hier at their head, have unanimously resolved to Bt4 2r 8 0 0 Nw A, d 7atelUtris. 1004 phi in the retire from office, if the bases of the Patent of stock East Suffolk the defea - 20th October, and the fundamental law of 26th of stock Edinburgh & Glasgow 100 87 59 directed 11 stock Edin. Perth, & Dundee 100 28 29 aid by t he February, are not decidedly applied to the national 10 Forth &Clyde Junction all stock Furness lOO ) plaititifro representation of Hungary." stock Glasg. and S. Western 100 107 109 10 Great Ntha. of Scotland all 130 140 1 path i n- 1 stock Great Northern lOO 101 109 auch of the 11.10NEY MARKET AND CITY NEWS. stock Do do A stock stock Do do B do it with tili ! -4 , stock Gt. S. &W. of Ireland 100 104 106 to rer ef CITY, Two o'CLocK. stock Great Western not be a b ly stock Do Str Val gua. stock 100 58 62 The inquiry for money, as usual at the close of 12 Irish South-eastern !Il the week, is rather quieter, and instances are re- stockc L ,..n ro s n hi a r n e s z l3Tac rkshi a r i f i 1 1 00 wl Ll -- , 1 40 11 82 21 112 111 corded of first-class bills being negotiated a frac tion under 51 per cent. There is evidently an stock Lond.. Chat, and Dover 100 2 stock Lou., Bright. & S Coast 100 119 ,8 4 12 6 1 4 1 6 19 4 stock Lond. &Nth. Western 100 945 051 95 45 100 95 06 96 LEAT IISII abundant supply of capital awaiting employment, et --k ;5 ' ITl l e ci ;ry 4' 8 : 1I eo V le e r s a t i e n rn e •—• all and the banks and discount firms are 5 consequently 25 L'derry & Enniskill en all 101 11 , 2 ,, 74 stock Man. Shet & Lincoln lOO 475 481 send, got , 'willing to accept lower terms rather than keep so Maryport and Carlisle all w asy 12/ Do do 1 shares all andtheir resources idle and unproductive. 71 4 s d assignees' , 10 Metropolitan 100 1214 1221 122 carried OP About £90,000 in gold was sent into the Bank stock Midland 1.4.0. 1 11 p WI . of England yesterday. 8.4.0. Do new .. stock Do n ew. g. & Derby 100 95 V Musa,of Ireland all I, of Gr Bles- The foreign exchanges yesterday afternoon exhi-2g Wr Vol t tiliares • cli art Brotheis bited no change of importance. 25 Mid Kent .. ... all taatS. Since Monday last the imports of specie have been 100 10 Do, Cray Line Newcastle and Carlisle all let the de b about 10 Newry & Armagh, def 9 8 6 d WO ing sec 6 about £315,700, and the exports £350,500. 20 Newry, Warnpt. & Ros. all — 7 58 Continued activity prevailed in the Liverpool stock Norfolk .. ...... party in tia Of CreditOrt4 Cotton Market yesterday, and prices were well stock North Britisl ... 100 624 631 63; stock '..Cor.Dev.Rail&Dk.stock 100 —•— ng from the supported. The sales were 5 , 000 bales. stock Do k 3tk ; A revs no d. until opchas beenpd.B 100 La ve been di ° The following communication refers to th e Debt sto ck Do B stock .... 107 . .•. 100 of Venezuela :—" The Committee of Spa nish stock Nth. Eastern.—Bei4ek 1 1064 1074 25 Dodo, 4 purch .N.E.purchase 16134 M stock Do Leeds ed. American bondholders made an u r g ent re p resenta- .....• • •...... ce P OP ta 3 p N 84 5 34 stock Do York lion to the Government of Venezuela on the subject stock North London maker hi al ° 5 • ul3 0/ of the existing arrears on the foreign debt of that .10 Do new 45 44 1 .e acco 19.16 4 North Staffordshire l7l To ere tu t republic, and requested that the Government would 10 N. and S. W. Junction al 10 10/ stock Not. dt Grantham Rail_ 100 86 83 ioubtfrAl 1 ,34 at once appropriate 25 per cent. of the Custom-house 10 Peebles ...• a fair pre" duties to meet the interest of the debt , h a ve received 20 Portsmouth 10 Rhymney............ • • all arge additil9/1 a reply from the Minister of Finance dated Car- stock Scottish Central oes diopiltill accas, the 21st ult., stating that in the actual un- k Scot N. E., Aber. stock 100 331 341 settled state of the republic, it is impossible for the stock soc Do Scot Mid. stock lOO 87 89 stock S p 0 46 48 10 Sitti s bong U e ni Sheer. "all present to comply with that requisition. The stock South - Devon le in lo Government are, however, occupying themselves stock Lirtl i n a a r s a tetn i ' an .. c ... 1j .. n 1 20 05 811 811 811 1 1 t r 0 1 me UP 1 • °- ,4, with efforts to obtain such financial resources as stock South Wales .... • stock S. York. and River Dun 100 95 97 Brother e Le may enable them to meet their engagements to 20 Staines, Wok,. and Wok all 4 7 25 Stockton & Darlington all 391 101 , ut ther e *- their foreign creditors. " grants ° 25 Do do .13 9# 10# p 22 4 I.l* grail There has been a very heavy Market for Public 25 Do New (1800) 3516t p stock Taff Vale . .•.. .. 1 0 0 Securities to-day, a farther decline of i p er cent. stock Do Pref. No i — l 100 2 5 Tb a mesHavenDk&Raili 22 —-- ['Lis PaP ) has taken place. Consols having receded to 891 I so ulster .I• • • ''• • i 20 24 351 for transfer, and to 89-1 I for the account. This _25 Do .. . 12 10 Do , : ._. ••• • 2 id kr movement has resulted from a continuance in stock Of Neatn - — 9 4 i nal 10 Victoria Sta. and Pim all 11# 114 Speculative sales. The New Threes and the Re- UN.-- vo s stock Waterford & Kilkenny 100 d urt-roa , o f duced are steady at 801 1 ; Bank Stock is firm at kc.o Waterford & Limerick all 20 ir% e at st Cornwall wall .. • • •••• all 55 61 everal ga nn ! o f 231 ;India at 221; ditto New Loan Scrip remains 20 West London ...ell 10 Do Ist class Mr. COQ ta . at 1001 1, and the 51 per Cent. Enfaced Paper at 20 Do 2d class .. .. 379, 00 1011; Exchequer Bills, March, are 98. dis. ; and stock W a e n st d lit t f i tlepool Harbr 100 _ _ ole ditto June, 38. to ls. dis. stock West Midland—Oxford 100 46 48 47 1 in his evi. g , Do. MI, ~ .I..linrya in the Foreign Market have been s s t o o c c t Mg= 100 42 81 Do. their foreign creditors." There has been a very heavy Market for Public si Securities to-day, a farther decline of 1 per cent. st has taken place. Consols having receded to 891 1 for transfer, and to 891 1 for the account. This 12 movement has resulted from a continuance in 81.4 speculative sales. The New Threes and the Re duced are steady at 891 8 ; Bank Stock is firm at 231 ; India at 221; ditto New Loan Scrip remains at 1001 1, and the 51 per Cent. Enfaced Paper at 1011; Exchequer Bills, March, are 98. dis.; and sti ditto June, 38. to Is. dis. The dealings in the Foreign Market have been st: exceedingly limited, and prices show no change of - importance. Turkish 6 per Cents. are 79 to 80:; ditto, 1858, 66 to 661 ; ditto, £lOO Bonds are steady at 68/, Grenada Deferred are firm at 51. Business in the Railway Share Market has been inactive, and little change of importance has taken place in prices. Bristol and Exeter declined Li, and Vale of Neath improved 10s., Eastern st, Counties, Lancashire, and Yorkshire, Midlands, st ; North Westerns, South Easterns, and Manchester, at Sheffield, and Lincoln, brought former prices. The Foreign and Colonial lines were flat. Great Luxembourg brought 71 ; - Antwerp and Rotter sty - dam, 57- 3 ; and Bahia and San Francisco, 111; Grand Trunk of Canada declined to 181; and e st Great Western of Canada remained steady at 101; sti East Indian realised 981 99; and Great Indian Pe- st, ninsula, 95/ 951. st Joint Stock Bank and Miscellaneous Shares exh: bited little variation. London Joint-stock improved 10s.; London and County declined 10s.; and Peel ; 6, River Land advanced ss. to 10s. st pl in his evi: 3o o n coneecl u o, ischarge a ral of ger in 1 . 11 _ 1 ,, e 4 0 3 Lad elDO e '' is I custOlVer° Marlbort i t be ughes 100 io. cent. eow . : 0 0, Abbey ssage for ;vied ree l of Paoli' ter , 5, Francis' day last. ad. t Mr. %C rtel ig at Ile I. The ~S eo og is Hord-on- 0/ he Lord ell >pring-gar de y g g special t° BRITISH FUNDS.-.—CLOSING:PRICES. Bank Stock 3 per Cent. Reduced Annuities B 9/ / i 3 per Cent. Consols Annuities New 3 per Cent. Annuities India Stock. .• 221 Ditto 5 per Cent. Ditto Loan Scrip, 5 per cent Ditto Enlaced Paper, 4 per Cent. — Ditto 51 per Cent Ditto Debentures, 1863 Ditto 1864 96 Consols for Account, Aug. 7 .. 89 1 i I India Stook for Account — Ditto 5 per Cent March. June. Exchequer Bills, £l,OOO, 2d — 3 1 dis Ditto £SOO Ditto Small FOREIGN FUNDS—CLOSING PRICES. . ( Edin 1,0 1.1 Lisition co o leach, t° c o y mty is i u and year, ,„„ >re i gn trair_°;o, anore co l ' ti g s : j lent, was re with a v oi d, of nervs, e at t shot, to )ast Toss 11 P D ot rifle to 0 . r . e .,„' do crushe the mire' very s t mman dall oui g r, in an.n s of Brig , ° off? oss to 01 0 Sad sent 0 New Grenada Active, 31i per Cent. — Ditto Deferred Spanish Cert. of Coup. not funded.. si Turkish 6_ per Cent — Ditto Account Ditto New Loan Ditto Account Ditto £lOO Bonds Dividends on the above payable in London. TWO O'CLOCK. Consols, Money - B9i I Ditto Account al decree:llc ie general , tte °; 03 0 between icipal da l e 0 assieas' ve ' ser" T eo ?renal ell' 32f. o ra o tbe f 31. ; frac'. 1r *3 to and es bIY -400, 0- ler the 01 , 0 foreign I re ren al) pigs, by F fi pedr Igar 3cla re ore e , under 9 s . a isa •emiunls gra )kle and' s om afore the sea rrny h ad co. ort ade up . 11 ', 9 119 ;area h ' s re ci , er into a P the magera ent ge s e— ri ror ; E ro p e f, he pariah P ea, st bad rg for sought f , ee host t o igth a b' , MptY reP •l9,O• ee cat i on of °tied/ ) een succ l , 4o elation- ah e reach, 813 did -day, t ll4 ay Row' 95i 4 I 100 100 491 100 100 sto( 100 112 11/ 101 eta 1191 sto 46 eta 95 411 2 - - ato 122 I stc P 21 58 I 21 64 21 107 il 21 P 21 62i 3 21 94t 31 21 • I i PREFERENCE SHARES. Share ; Railways. Paid • Closing Business Price. Done. - - LO2 104 20 21 51 6i 99 101 108 112 105 108 107 109 106 108 121 123 78 80 109 111 90 92 75 77 Blythe and Tyne 10 per c. pref. (issued at £5l Bris. & Exet.4 p.ctstock 0 Do. do. do. Shares ;ck Caledon £lO, 0 per cent >ck Do. Quar. Shares, No. 2. 61 Cork & Bandon, 51 p. c. 10 Cornwall. 5 per cent Dun.Perth&&ber.Jun. 14 Do Ist Class Pref xk E.Angn.Class A 7 &5p.0. Dek Do. do. Class B 6 p.c.- 3ck Do. do. Class C 7 p.c Dck E. Coun. Ex. sp. a No.l Dck Do. do. No. 2 Dek Do. New 6 per ct. stock. Dek Eastern Union, 4 per ot ock Do. 5 per cent. guar... ock Edin.&Glas. sp.c. shares ock Do. 4p. o gua. S. &D. __ock Edin. Perth& Pun. 4 p.c. stock Furness, 5 per cent .... stock Glas.& S. West.g.a. 5 p.c, ick Great Northern, 5 p. ct ,ck Do.sp.c.Redm., 10 p.e.pm wit Do. 41 p. c. do. do. 10 Do. 5p.0. Redm. 5 p.c. pm .0 Gt. Nh. of Scotld. Ist pf. tit Sn. & W (Ireland) k p. et. pref. stock i 0 ,reat West (Berks and Hants) Ext. 5 p. ct. )ek to. Redeemable, 41 p.ct. )ck Do. Redeemable, 4p. ct. )ck Da Irredeemable, do Dck Do. 5 p.ct. Redeem. Pref. 8 Do. Birm. Pref. Shares. 10 Gt. W. Ches. 8 p.c. ptsh. 10 Do. do. 6p. et pref ock Do Birmg.guar. stock.. 263 Do. Chester gua. shares 131 Do. do. do. 20 Do. do. do. 00 Lan. & Carl. 41 pc. pref ock Lan.&York 6p. c. stock ' ock Do.Barnststf.,s 3s 10d pc ock Do. 6 per a (E. Lan.) ock Lon. & Brig. 5 pc.gu. No.l ock Do. sp. c. ........ No. 2 ,ock Do. gua. 6p. ,ock Do. do 5( a Na 4 ocic Do. do. 4 per cent..... ... • 5 Do. do. 4 p. a shares.. bock Do. 7 p.ct Pref. stock. lock Do. 6p.c. do. (W.E.&C.P. lock Do.4p.c.S.(div.dettil '65: Lock Do. 4 per cent. Prt Lock Lon. Chat and Dover Do.W. A rceiv. no div O ~Ex•A til 6p is pd on Do. B B. & Brom ex. 0 Do. Metropolitan Ex B a Lon. and N.W. Coy. and Nuneaton, 5 p. ct Pck Lon. & S.W, 7p. et, stock Lek Do. 41 per cent 6d. Do. (Prtsm. perpl anus. of 2s. 6 ..... 121 Londondy. & Cole. 1 sh. 12 Londony. & Ennis. 1 shy )c Man. Sh. &Lin. 6 per 01 1 6 Do. X 6 Dck Do. 31 per cent 1,0 Do. redeem. 6 per cent 121 Naryport & Car., 4p. a 124 Do. 41 per cent ock Mid. Con. 6 p c. stock ock Do.Con.Bris. & Bir. 6 p.c ock Do. 41 p. c. pref. stock 6 Do. 41 per cent ock Do. Lela & Hit. pref. st. ock Norfik sp. e. Ex. st 1846 ock Do. 51 p. c. Pref. do 1847 ,ock Do.sWay. Val.Ex.st.lB47 ock North British, 5 p. o. ock Do. New, gua. 5 p. c 10 1 Do. Bor. 'Urn. g. pi. shs 10 Do. do. do st Nth.Dev.R ail. Dck.Co. st N-EastCons.Pret 4p. st Do. 41p e. redeemable.. at Do. G.N.E. 4 per c. pref. .7 Do. Berwick, 4 p.a Pref. • Do. Leeds, 6p. 121 Do. do. Quarters, 1848.. 15 Do. York, H. &S. Parch. I 0 North Staffordshire.... 10 Rhymney Guaranteed. 81 Scottish Central, new pi, st Scottish North-Eastern 31 p. c. pref. stock.... st Do.Aberdeen,gua.6p.c. st Do. 7p. o. prof. stock 100. South Devon, Ann. 10s. 10 Do. Fixed 41 per cent .0.1 South Eastern (Reading Ann., 1,0,6) st Do. 41 per cent. t Do. Fixed 11 p.c. Ist is. it 4outit Wales, gua. 4p. c. it Do. 41 per cent it Do. 5 per cent' ... ;t S.-Yorkshire, 4p. c, gua.! 15 Stock. & Dar. A. sp. C.. ?5 Do. 13 6 tier cent 15 Do. C 6 per cent st Watrfd & Killtoy, 6p. c st W.Mid -Oxf Ist Gaa stk st Do. 2d do st Do. Newport 5 p.mpf. red, f3t Do.Peet. 6p.c. pf 1866 st Do rp . till 1869. Ist is. Busin Busin ess LI NES LEASED a id . A T l, e l: I s I. X n : 7 RENTALS.CIosing ---------- R a ilways. Co.'s Price. Done, 100 o ....... 91 98 IhnkinghamEthlre • • • • Bediordandßletehley all Do .. .. Chester & Holyhead... Do ....... 121 123 100 'Do... ..... 5 2 / 1 63i Do. 6} percent 100 .. 111 112 Do. 6 „ 10 ° D ° ' 'd •• . 1 01 10 1 Clydesdale June . _,,. 100 Cale on.. ku Li n n i co on l , n i p arwi . Colchester, Stour.Na.l. all 1/110,•&-E• 15i 164 Do. Woodbridge.... 100 5t.c.N00unrtth5..1324414341 134 " eh P e S r h c s . . l a C l e ; Gls.Barr.&Neils.Dret. 100 iCalition... Do. new lOO ;Do. _._._. •• • Gl o ater &Dean Forest all Gt. West. Hrtip'l Dock & Rail.. all Yk.N.Stlir Hull and Selby.. all Yk.N. Bid. 112 114 Do. halves... - Do. quarters........ all D 0.... ,_, . . Lane.&C a rl. gua. 6 p.c. 100 Ln&N.W 200 203 London & Greenwich. 100 S.Eastern 59 61 Do. Preference .• .. 100 Do. .. .—.. 112 117 Lon.,Tilburyot S -end 100 Peto4SzCo. 83 86 Lowestoft gua. 4 p c.. 100 Norfolk.. Do. 6 per cent . . .... 100 Do — Mnc„Bxtn„&slatlock all L NW&M 34 31 Mid. Bradford Prefer- • ence Stock .... . . .... 1 00 M idland.. 53 9 5 Nawmarkt,Buryl& Ex. gua. 5 per cent..... 1. 5.6. Counts. 4 i p Northn.&Eastn. sp. e. a ll Do.. 65 57 Do. ap. c. Do. Fixed sp. c all Do.. .. •_. North Western all Midland 15i 15 L&NWI Preston and Wyre. I all Az L sk . j Do. 4 Shares A. all Do. — Itnystn.llitch.,&Shep 100 Gt. North. 131 133 Shrewsbry& Hereford 10 0 T.Brassey 118 122 Do. do. S.-Staffordshire all 51 t D ‘C o le;a e n s . t . : Wilts and Somerset lOO 0 88 1 90 — ip - :fimbledeu &Croy du. all .1a4Br161) Si 31, 117 112 104 108 97 99 96 98 87 00 88 00 [OO 102 gb 10 16i 174 10k lof 74 76 20 21 10 10i 15 151, 116 116 140 116 103 150 , 155 127 130 74 88 90 134 14 125 127 P 1 68 'lO 134 136 102 103 92 93 110 112 108 110 1 11 91 13 101 103 104 108 P ip -r it d ip 22 Z 3 182 184 10 101 23 23i 99 100 99 100 98 100 85 00 26 3 / 4 27 3 / 4 31 3 / 4 32 3 / 4 31i 32 3 / 4 45 48 124 128 118 120 100 103 120 122 115 117 211 IS DAY'S SKIPPING. . LONDON, July 20.—Wind this day at noon, South- Westerly; light breeze, and fine weather, but rather cloudy. DEAL, July 19.—Wind S.W.—Arrived—Josephine, from the River for Sydney; Oscar, from the River for Bi Martinique. f3' PLYMOUTH, July 19.—Wind S.W.—Arrived—Stanen, et( from Richibucto. MILFORD, July I.9—Wind S.E.—Arrived—Medawaska, from Quebec. etc BRIXHAM, July 19.—Wind S.W.—Arrived—Frede et i - ricko, from Quebeo for Sunderland. et, MARYPORT, July 19.—Wind S.W.—Arrived—Nelson, from Quebec. FLEETWOOD, July 19.—Wind W.S.W.—Arrived — Marchioness of Queensberry, from Quebec. (ELECTRIC TELEGRAPHIC DESPATCHES). SOUTHAMPTON, Saturday Morning. Arrived—Alliance, steamer, from Havre ; Clemence, from Cherbourg. Sailed—Courier, steamer, for Havre; Dispatch, steamer, for Jersey. (BY SUBMARINE AND MAGNETIC TELEGRAPH.) GRAVESEND, Saturday Morning. Arrived, July 19—Ferona, from Montreal ; Aliwal, from Guernsey; Amanda, from Leghorn; Siccia, from New York; Gannymede, from Aalborg; Rosina, from Quebec; Juno, from Gothsborg ; Edward, from Cron *tad t. Arrived, July 20—Cosmopolitan, from Hamburg. Sailed, July . 2o—Monarch, steame r, for Colombo; Leip zie, for Hamburg. We have reason to believe that Lord S. Russell's elevation to the peerage is only preliminary to his retire ment from public affairs, and that important ehanges may in consequence be shortly expected in the Cabinet.-11forn ing Herold. Advices from Turin state that the new Italian loan promises to be highly popular. It will be adjudicated on Tuesday next. HORSES NAMED AFTER ACTORS.—Not only have we a "Ben Webster" and a " 33uckstone," but we observe that Mr. Thorne has named his yearling colt by West Aus tralian, out of Garnish, bought at her Majesty's sale, Howard Paul. T H E ROYAL AGRICULTURAL SOCIETY OF ENG -I.AND.—The show-yard at Leeds finally closed yesterday afternoon, 40,777 persons having been admitted into the yard in the course of the day. The amount received at the entrances during the week was £9,896 10s. 6d. EXTRAORDINARY CAPTURE OF WHALES.—A whole shoal of these valuable animals was driven ashore at Benbecula on the evening of the 9th. The whales were first observed by some parties belonging to the surveying vessel Woodlark, who were in a boat, and whu managed to alarm the shoal so as to send them in the direction of the shore. Other boats joined in the pursuit, until at length the animals were driven on a sandbank near Gramsdale Ina. A wholesale slaughter then commenced, which lasted during the whole night, when it was found that up.• wards of 400 whales had been captured. The animals ringed in length between sixteen and twenty-five feet, and must form a valuable prize to the fortunate captors.— .Edinburgh Witness. A movement is being made among the leading merchants and brokers connected with the colonial produce markets to induce the Lord Mayor to call a public meeting against the enormous increase in the rates of fire insurance. A requisition is in the course of signature at the principal colonial and corn markets. all 102 i 100 100 100 all all THE SUN, LONDON, 'SATURDAY EVENING, JULY' 20, 1861. ',usiness done THE POST-OFFICE. BURY, POLAND. all all 131 all all 18.8. all all all all all si 2 1 1 10} 11 34 3i 2i 24 22 23 71 ei 8 81 19 20 87 88 si P 37i P,84 53 .15 6 sii 11 n In 98 81 19 Ist 5} 51 1 8A 84 2 If d 21i 22i Of di 9* 9t 191 20i 051 i 94 3 IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. rpusEnweLoßts7,4-rasTERDAT.y The LORD CHANCELLOR took ills seat on the woolsack at five.o'clock. In replying to a petition presented by Lord SHA.FTES • Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEY said the recommen dations of the recent committee on the Post-office had al most all been adopted. The Marquis of NORMANBY presented two petitions urging the cause of Poland on the attention of their lord ships. Lord BROUGHAM also presented a petition from Stockport on the same subject. The petition prayed their lordships to take active steps to obtain access to the corre spondence with Russia during 1831 and 1832 on the sub ject of Poland. He spoke with the deepest regret of the partition of Poland in 1772, and again in 1794, and passed a warm eulogy on the late Prince Czartoryski. Lord STRATFORD DE REDCLIFFE presented two petitions from Sheffield and Bradford on the same subject. They prayed that an address might be presented to her Majesty, praying her to suspend all diplomatic intercourse with Russia until the kingdom of Poland had been restored and reparation made for the disregard by Russia of the treaties of Vienna. He must not be under stood to back these petitions with his own opinion, but they were very numerously, and he believed very respe ctabl y , signed. STATUES OF PUBLIC MEN. Lord TAUNTON asked if it was true that statues were about to be erected in the immediate vicinity of that house to Brunel and Locke ? He must not be understood to cast any imputation on the memory of those great men, but he thought the neighbourhood of that house should be re served for the statues of men who had been famous in one or other house of Parliament. He also thought that it was a mistake to erect any statue not originally contemplated as a part of the achitectural design. Earl GRANVILLE said the chief commissioner had in formed him that he intended to reserve places for 28 statues round St. Margaret's-square. The side facing the house would be reserved for the statues of persons who had been famous in the Legislature, but it was proposed to allow the erection of statues to other persons in the other faces. POLAND. The Earl of HARROWBY rose, pursuant to notice, to move that an humble address be presented to her Majesty, for copies or extracts of all correspondence which passed in the years 1831 and 1832 between the Government of Great Britain and those of Russia and other countries on the sub ject of Poland. After presenting a number of petitions to the same effect as those before mentioned, he proceeded to say that the attention of Europe and of the world in gene ral, which had somewhat slumbered with regard to the affairs of Poland, had been revived by the events of the last few months, and it was a matter for grave consideration and doubt whether the condition of affairs in that country was such as was contemplated by the Great Powers who were parties to the Treaty of Vienna. They were all aware that at that moment the retention of Poland as an integral part of the European system was a matter of the deepest inte rest to statesmen. Not only the supports of the principle of nationality, but persons who were the last to be suspected of enthusiasm, such. as Lord Castlereagh and Prince Met ternich, considered the Polish nation, as a most important element in Europe, not merely on the ground of outraged rights and outraged nationality, but further as a great and important barrier between Russia and Germany. Their lordships were aware that the feeling on this subject was so intense that the Governments of England, France, and Aus tria were at one time on the point of entering into a treaty for the purpose of declaring war against Russia with regard to this question; and it was only the return of Napoleon from Elba which put an end to that treaty. Their lordships were also aware that afterwards, when it was found impossible to succeed in the object which the Powers had in view, by re establishing the independence of Poland, the next best step was taken. When the proposal was made for the distribution of the several provinces of Poland between the three great contending Powers—Austria, Russia, and Prussia—that partition was accompanied by very particular stipulations. It was not to be a mere distribution of territory, but it was to be accompanied by obligations all tending to coun teract the partition, and to keep together the severed na tionality. Precautions were accordingly taken for the put , . pose of retaining the national feeling and the enjoyment of the national name. The Poles were to be made subject to their several rulers, but they were to obtain such a repre sentation as the respective governments should think it use ful and common to grant. This was not therefore a common case of partition, but that of a partition accompanied by pre cautions that it should not destroy the nationality of the people. An attempt was made to secure to them nationality, good government, and liberal 'institutions. Now, it might at first sight be supposed that a political disturbance in Po land was a simple question between the Poles and their governors. That he (Earl of Harrowby) could not admit. It was a matter of importance no less than of interest to this country. In this instance not only were our sympathies excited, but our sense of justice was evoked in defence of liberties which had been specially chartered to these people in the face of Europe by the very title deeds under which they were held in subjection. For by what title was the ter ritory of Poland held, except the treaty of Vienna? Now, from information he had received, he was led to believe the Government of Russia was extremely sensitive on the sub ject. He hoped that on this occasion it would yield to the marked expression of the public feeling of Europe which had been manifested with regard to the late affairs of Warsaw. He should not therefore ask her Majesty's Government to renew the protest which they had already made, but he would confine himself to the motion of which he had given notice. He might add that perhaps some personal feeling might have led him out of his usual course to enter upon this subject. (Hear.) [The noble lord concluded by a warm eulogy on the character of his lamented relative, the late Lord Dudley Stuart, the precise terms of which were not heard with sufficient distinctness for a report.] Lord WODEHOU SE said.nothing could be more natural than that the noble earl, who, for so many years had taken so much interest in the Welfare of Poland, should be desi rous of bringing it under their, lerdships' notice at a time when the attention of Europe was so much turned towards it by the events that had recently taken place in Warsaw. Though he (the noble lord) could not add anything to what had already heen stated by ,her Majesty's Government in another place, he wished to say a few words upon a topic in Which he took a great personal interest. Nonno could read the history of Poland without feeling sympathy for a na tion so gallant and so unfortunate ; but besides that, the Polish questionhad given rise to considerations of the greatest interest to the general welfare of Europe. The extinction of Poland as an independent power had perhaps bad a greater influence upon European politics than any event that had taken place in modern times. Above all, it had the greatest possible influence upon the position of Ger many; for no one could look at the map without seeing that Poland and the ancient Polish !provinces, instead of being an outwork of Germany and a bulwark of Western civilisation, had become an outwork of Russia and a dan gerous menace to Germany, the danger having been in er r e e g c r t ow : d ht ihanteevffact, t in creased by "the system of fortifieationg which had been dent questionp o w did e power n appeared n tseeot o h hi i mint to o bebe at practically preent e there Russiante mre Poland, is:to bet and etii no n w s to h ofr i cehfowr Polandei r t e i ne n et e h a ae r n l f y u equal nudree p,et hn i n o. m strength to the famous quadrilateral. However they might Poland had been dividedamongst three of the impossible— andpsrtraocntigeale s to anne d. most powerful states in the world, and they could not hope for its recovery from the overwhelming force that would be brought to oppose its liberation. It must be a matter of congratulation to its friends, however, that in the recent events the Poles had manifested so much calmness and I moderation; for it showed that while the ancient patriotic feeling was as strong as ever, the events of the lest few years had taught them political wisdom. There was reason to hope, too, that better days were dawning upon them from what was taking place in Russia. It was only due to the Emperor to say that the measures which he had adopted as regarded the serf's, and which he believed had emanated en tirely from the Emperor himself, had inaugurated a new era. He felt confident that the progress of liberal ideas in Russia would tend to secure greater freedom for the Poles, and the enjoyment of those institutions to which they were en titled under the t reat y of Vienna. At the same time their lordships m ust recollect tha t to surrender Poland would be to reduce R ussia a g ai n to a position of great infe riority inignEmuro7eThey were in th e h a bi t of talk i ng a b out P o land; but the anci en t P o li s h prov i nces really comprised a very lar g e an d important portion of Eu ropean Russia. While, therefore, h e conten d e d t h a t t h e restoration i Polishindependence was no longer a practi cal question, and n more et o d aid h iincreasing the civilisation of Russia, and in h edone that th e P o l es would b e ena bl e d more inst itution s more in c on f or mity with the ofo introducingr general system of western nations. (Hear, hear.) With regard to Prussian Poland the case was somewhat different. So great had been the increase of Germans, that they now formed, with the Jews, almost as large a portion of the population as the Poles themselves. (Hear, hear.) The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH observed that the present position of affairs in the Duchy of Warsaw could not faila great and mater i a l e ff ec t u pon the state of Europe. For his own p ar t h e en t er t a ined a very to have strong sympathy for the Polish people. They had suf fered for sixty-five years under the wrongs which had upon their f ore f athers; an d d ur ing the bwhol e een inflicted course of that poriod they had shown grandeur of mind in great adversity. (Rear, hear.) They had at all times maintained the dignity of their national character, and they had made themselves respected even by those who had trodden them under foot. In whatever field of foreign service to which voluntary inclination or force had impelled them, they had maintained a military reputation equal to that of any other country in the world; and it had been to him a subject of the greatest astonishment that every sove reign of Russia bad not put himself forward in an endeavour to conciliate their affections, and had not felt proud to place himself at the head of their noble battalions. He (the noble earl) spoke not only as the friend of Poland, but as the friend of Russia ; for he altogether put aside the memory of recent differences, and looked only to the long friendship— happily re-established — which had prevailed for so many years, a n d w ith so much benefit to both nations. lie was old enough to recollect the events of the year 'l2—the noble self-devotion which Russia had shown, and the great ser vices which she had performed in;the re-establishment of the liberty of nations. Besides, the present Emperor had just bestowed upon his subjects the greatest boon of impe rial benevolence that the world had ever seen, and he could not but entertain a hope' that, with so much benevolence for slaves, his Majesty would not be insensible to the claims of freemen. (Cheers.) The result of the present, attitude of Po land had practically been to paralyse the action of Russia in Central Europe ; and that could not happen without serious mischief. The balance of power was so extremely delicate, that no one great power could be temporarily disabled with out affecting the welfare of the whole. If, for example, the action of France could be entirely neutralised, the injury that would result to Europe from her temporory disappear ance would be far greater than that which would arise from any action she could take in the pursuit of her material ag grandisement. (Hear, hear.) The important question, then, was, in what manner Russia could re-establish her position; and he knew of no mode so likely to be effective as a frank reconciliation with the Polish people. (Hear.) Nor did he despair of the possibility of such reconciliation, In days past, Italy, Lombardy, Naples, and Flanders gave their most cordial loyalty to the Emperor Charles V. And why? Because they enjoyed self-government; because they were happy under his rule ; because they felt that he loved them as well as the rest of his subjects; and because when he was amongst them he appeared as one of themselves. In more recent times, the Hungarians—not merely in theearly times of Maria Theresa but much later—loyally supported the House of Hapsburg. And why ? Because they were allowed a separate existence, and were treated rather as an allied than as a subject state. Again, the Hanoverians, during the 100 years they had been connected with the sove reigns of England, maintained their loyalty to the last. And why ? Because they were always well governed, and go verned as an independent people. (Cheers.) He could not doubt that the application of the same principle by Russia to Poland would produce the same result; for, however much individuals might change, there was no change in nations. The Romans always considered that the most powerful enemies made the best allies; but then it was only when they were well treated. Let not the Russians despise the Poles because they were poor. Poverty was always dan gerous; for poverty was always thinking of its wrongs,was always desirous of change, was always aspiring. Wealth, on the other hand, was content to let things be as they were ; and if, therefore, the rule of Russia over Poland was such as to lead to self-government and wealth, there could be no doubt that it would soon render it loyal and content. He had always thought that there was no agency so influential over a people as generosity; and especially when that people was itself the bravest and the most gene ous of nations. He did trust, therefore, that there might be a conciliatory proposition made to the people of Poland) and that they would receive it in the spirit in which it was tendered. The Poles must see that the:re-establishment of their independent nationality could only happen as the effect of a disruption of all the states of Europe, such as 40 or 60 years ago brought the first Napoleon to the Vistula. The first Napoleon held out promises to them; he used them for his own purposes, and after they had ehed their hearts' blood for him, he deceiyedthem. Did they hope that in any future convulsion of Europe, France would act again towards them with greater fidelity ? (Hear.) If he (the noble earl) could approach the Emperor of Russia, he would most earnestly counsel him to adopt a course of clemency and generosity; and he would with equal earnestness coun sel the Poles to meet his advances frankly and with firm ness. Insincerity in a sovereign was a crime which could never be forgiven ; but ingratitude in a people was a crime of equal magnitude, and it was one that deprived them of all sympathy. (Loud cheers.) The Earl of MALME S BURY was anxious to express his entire concurrence in what had fallen from the two noble earls. If the present was to the Poles a time to grieve, it was not one to be disheartened, when they contrasted the present state of things with the state of things seven or eight years ago. Then they had an absolute sovereign, whose only idea of manifesting his power was by military force ; now they had a ruler who had done greater things for the cause of liberty than perhaps any of his contempo raries. Justice had in fact hardly been rendered to the Emperor of Russia. He had information on which he could rely as to the Emperor's sentiments. His Majesty had near him men of experience and judgment, in whom he had the greatest confidence, and who were pursuing the very course which their lordships had to-night expressed their wish that he should follow. On the other hand, of course, as an ah solute sovereign he had advisers who would urge him to take an opposite course ; but when he knew the natural turn of the Emperor's mind, and that he had about him those who could give him good advice, he felt confident of, before long, a milder rule in that country. But he should be sorry if anything should, be said in that house, and nothing had been said, that could encourage the Poles to take a course fatal to their own welfare. There were parties among them who took up the subject in different ways. There was the moderate party, the leader of which was Prince Adam Czartoryski, who had just died at Paris, who looked only on the improvement of the condition of Poland under the sovereignty of Russia. There waothers whose patriotism went to the extent of wishing 'to ie-esta blish the monarchy that was crushed nearly 70 years ago But in neither House of Parliament, as far as he had ob - I served, had anything been said to encourage any section of the Poles to attempt impossibilities that could only result in bringing thein under a more stringent tyranny than that to which they were at present subjected. But there was one thing that no statesman in this country need be afraid boldly to state. It was, that the present rule of the Polish nation was a breach of the treaty of Vienna. No one could deny that, though some might excuse it. He could not ex cuse it, because he believed that the Polish rebellion of 1831 was entirely the 'result of a very flagrant breach of that treaty—a breach carried out in a cruel and inexcusable man ner. Therefore, while he said that nothing could excuse the breach of that treaty by the Emperor Nicholas, nothing could excuse the present Emperor in imposing on the Poles a rule from which the treaty of Vienna protected them. But he would entreat the Poles at this moment only to con sider how far they could obtain what that treaty promised them—a constitutional Government, such as their fellow countrymen possessed in Prussia—and at once to dismiss from their minds any dream of reconstructing the. Polish monarchy. To attempt to do so would convulse Europe, and could only end. in retarding still longer the liberties to which they were justly . entitled. The Marquis of BREADALBANE said it was not true that wealth never conspired,. e believed there never was a greater conipiracy of wealth Manifested in the world than in the spoliation of Poland, or a greater crime committed by power against right than was then committed. against that unfortunate country. Lord STRATFORD DE REDCLIFFE said he had no intention of going over the ground which had already been gone over so satisfactorily. But having at an early period taken an interest in the questions relating to Poland, he should be sorry to allow the discussion to proceed without expressing his sentiments. He concurred in the opinions which had been expressed on both nodes of the house as to the character of the Polish nation and the cha racter of that illustrious man who had lately died. He thought no one could look back on what had been done with regard to Poland without feeling that a serious violation of the public law had been committed in the infraction of the treaty of Vienna. One small and interesting town (Cracow) which that treaty guaranteed should have a free and inde pendent constitution, at this moment formed part of the Austrian empire. It was satisfactory to find that the voice of truth could be heard in the British Parliament, and that those who had succeeded in carrying out their ambitious views had at last to find that they stood opposed to the opinion of Europe expressed by a Parliament which more than any other body in Europe had a right to express that opinion. Lord TALBOT DE MALAHIDE said he agreed with what had been said in favour of the rights of Poland. There was one point to which he would call attention. One of the greatest grievances under which the Poles at present suf fered had not been alluded to, he meant the great religious grievance. He had been assured on credible authority that at the present moment there were more than five millions of Poles who had been forced to abjure their religion and to conform to the Greek Church, which of course they did only in appearance. He also heard that there had been an attempt to bring up the Jewish children in the Greek faith, andthat hundreds, if not thousands of them had been carried to the baptismal font. Their lordships had heard a great deal of the Mortara case, a case which fully called for their sympathies. Many of the States in Europe had interfered in that ques ti. ea, but he believed that for that instance of what was con sidered so great a grievance, there were hundreds if not thou sands in Poland. Of course they must all feel a great in terest in what was going on in Russia, and they all wished the Emperor success in his scheme, but he would be better able to carry it out by having the support of the Polish provinces. He trusted that some sinister rumours they had heard about papers having been circulated among the peasants, urging them to rise up against their landlords, a ruse which had been practised before in the Polish pro vinces, had no truth in them, for a more fatal policy could not pursued. They were told that a war of Jacquerie had broken out in some provinces in Russia. It would be a fearful thing if an empire with a population of between ilk and sixty millions should come und.br the dominion of an ignorant and degraded peasantry. On the other hand, the Polish provinces could feel, no sympathy in this movement. Poland. would act as a breakwater to Europe, instead of being a source of danger. The Earl of HARROWBY said he would follow the re commendation of his noble friend and alter his motion ac cording/yr. The motion, as amended, by leaving out the words " and of other countries," was then put and carried. DRUNKENNESS (IRELAND) BILL. The Earl of ST. GERMANS, in moving the second reading of this bill, said its object was to enable magistrates to commit drunkards to local bridewelle. The bill was read a second time. LANDLORD AND TENANT LAW AMENDMENT (IRELAND) ACT PROCEEDING BILL. This bill was referred to a select committee. PUBLIC WORKS (IRELAND) ADVANCFs se.ND REPAYMENTS OF MONIES BILL. This bill passe d through committee. TRAM WAYS (IRELAND) ACT AMENDMENT BILL. This bill passed through coparuitteo. TRAMWAYS (SCOTLAND) BILL. This bill passed through commitee. EAST INDIA COUNCIL, &c., BILL. The report of amendments was received. ATTORNEYS AND SOLICITORS (IRELAND) BILL. This bill passed through committee. PIERS AND HARBOURS BILL. This bill passed through committee. COUNTY SURVEYORS, &c. (IRELAND) BILL. This bill passed through committee. APPROPRIATION OF SEATS (SUDBURY AND ST. ALBANS) BILL. Earl GRANVILLE moved the second reading, of this bill, and suggested that it would be more convenient to take the discussion on the next stage of the bill. The Earl of DERBY said he quite concurred in the opinion that it was not desirable to take the discussion in so thin a house. Their lordships then adjourned. HOUSE CF COMMONS=-YESTERDAY. The SPEAKER took the chair at twelve o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The Lords' amendments to the following bills were considered and agreed to :—Aberystwith and Welsh Coast Railways ; Bishop Stortford, Dunmow, and Braintree Rail way; Cleveland Railway; Forest of Dean Central Rail way; Hatfield Chase Warping and Improvement; Inver ness and Perth Junction Railway ; Ludlow and Clee Railway; Hill Mersey Docks and Harbour Board; Much Wen lock, &c., Railway ; Salisbury and Dorset Junction Rail way; South Eastern Railway (Folkestone Harbour, &c.) ; Vale of Clwyd Railway; and Ware, Hadham, and Bun tingford Railway. The following bills were read a third time and passed : Caledonian and Symington, Biggar, and Broughton Rail way Companies; Caledonian Railway (Rutherglen and Coatbridge Branches) (Queen's consent, on behalf of the Crown, to be signified.) NEW WRIT. On the mction of Mr. H. BAILLIE a new writ was ordered for the county of Selkirk, in the room of Mr. A. E. Lockhart, who has accepted the Chiltern Hundreds. INLAND REVENUE BILL. On the motion for going into committee on this bill, Mr. W. MARTIN moved that it be an instruction to the committee that they should have power to divide the bill into two or more bills. Mr. NEWDEGATE supportred the motion, and said he considered the bill as a sequel to the Consolidated Supply Bill of the Chancellor of the 'Exchequer. He contended that the latter measure should have been divided into three bills, in conformity with the spirit and practice of Parlia mentary proceedings. The Chancellor of the Exchequer had shown great dexterity in regard to this bill now before the house. In the Consolidated Supply Bill he forced through the principles of the charges proposed in taxation, and he had reserved for this bill the details that were neces sary to give effect to the carrying out of the alterations introduced. Direct taxation was odious, but it was when it came to be enforced that its objectionable character became apparent. He believed some of the provisions of this bill were unnecessary, and he called on the house to show that they would not assent to the innovation of the Chancellor of the Exchequer in requiring them to legislate in the dog days on important financial questions. Mr. GLADSTONE said the hon. memberdid not under stand, and misrepresented the nature of this bill. How ever, he had considered the motion of the hon. member (Mr. Martin), and he would assent to it. Mr. HADFIELD contended that by one of the clauses of this bill relating to beer-houses, flood-gates of vice and ' immorality would be opened for the purpose of repleniSh ing her Majesty's exchequer. Mr. HENLEY supported the proposal for a division. After some remarks from Sir J. FERGUSON the motion was agreed to. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER entered into some explanations, in the course of which he stated that he proposed merely by this bill to obtain administrative powers, and denied that he had introduced any fiscal novel• ties by this measure. What he proposed was only to ex tend principles that were already in operation. In illustra- Von of this he referred to the clause relating to the income tax, and contended that the only object proposed was to effect a more equal distribution of that impost. With regard to the 43d clause, to which there had been considerable ob jection, , though he did not concur in the views expressed by some hon.' members, yet ;he would aban don it, considering the late period of the session. Under the circumstances he trusted the hon. member (Mr. Hennessy) would not presslis motion. Mr. HENNESSY said that he did not think the ex planation of the right hon. gentleman satisfactory. He (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) had disclaimed having introduced any novelty, but he contended that it was a novelty to be required on the 19th of July to discuss im portant financial changes which should have been submitted to their consideration in February last. He concluded by moving " That this house will, upon this day three months, resolve itself into the said committee." The CH ANC ELLOR of the EX C HE QUER said the hon. had member not made himself acquainted with the real nature of the bill, and he trusted the house would not accede to the motion, which would have the effect 'of in juring seriously the interests which he was desirous to protect. Sir S. NORTHCOTE defended the course adopted by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, but he thought the clauses relating to succession duty should be postponed, and, if that course were adopted, he trusted the hon. mem ber (Mr. Hennessy) would not press his motion. Mr, PHILLIPS agreed with the last speaker, and ex pressed a hope that the succession duty would not be pressed. After some further discussion, in the course of which strong objections were made to the 44th clause, which imposed pains and penalties of a novel character, Mr. HENNESSY said he would withdraw his motion if the Chancellor of the Exchequer would omit from the bill this clause. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he was sorry he could not comply with the proposition of the hon. member. The house then divided— For the motion Against it B2 Majority —33 Sir J. PAKINOTON asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer to afford the house some information relative to certain clauses before the house went into committee. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that he could not conveniently adept that course, and must re serve his explanations until the house went into committee. After some irregular discussion the house went into com mittee. In reply to Mr. HENNESSEY, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER explained that the object of the clause was to enable mithylated spirits to be sold without license, which would eonfer considerable benefit on the public, there being at present a 10 guinea license imposed on this article, the use of which was ex tending daily. Clauses 1 to 8 inclusive were agreed to. Clause 9, with some modification, was also agreed to. Clauses 10 to 14 were agreed to. Clause 15 was postponed. On clause 16, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it renewed the duty on race horses, and did not, as had been feared, affect Ireland. The clause was agreed to. Clause 17 was also passed. Clause 18 equalised the penalty for selling game without an excise license, and was agreed to. On clause 19, Mr. HENNESSY moved an amendment, which had the effect of restricting the power of dealing with cases of illicit distillation to courts of petty session, consisting of two or more magistrates, instead of one only, as proposed by the bill. The amendment was agreed to, and the clause, as amended, passed. The following clauses to No. 37 were agreed to. Clauses 38 to 40 were postponed, and clauses 41 to 44 were negatived. Clauses 48 to 53 were passed, 44 and 55 were struck out, and clause 56 agreed to. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER saint should proceed with the postponed clause.. on Tuesdaynext. LACE FACTORIES BILL. The house went into committee on this bill pro forma, and its further consideration was postponed till Tuesday next. _ The house resumed, and the sitting was suspended at four o'clock. The house met again at six. THE GALWAY CONTRACT. Mr. CONINGRAM presented a petition from Mr. G. V. Malley Irwin, similar to the one be had presented the other night, with the exception that the petition asked for an investigation instead of a prosecution by the Attorney- General. He believed he was expected to express an opi nion upon the petition, and he had no hesitation in saying that he thought there were prima facie grounds fo rtee in vestigation. Should a discussion arise respecting peti tion he was fully prepared to state the grounds on which he thought au investigation necessary The hon. gentleman concluded by moving that the petition be read. The petition was accordingly-read by the clerk at the table. The petitioner described hiraself as the projector of the Royal Atlantic Steam Navigation Company, and charged Mr. Lever and the officials connected with the company with false and fraudulent preitenkes and practices ; he stated p th ra a y t ehdotwhaats apnreipnacirueidrytomsiugbhattanb e ti m at a e his deinto al t l h ega e ftrioanusd,ulaennat do lie on the tabl e , b th a t ee t h e n e/ : m p m e t t t e o d n . pr .( j ac po tic n es th w e h q i u ch os h ti a 3 d n Mr. BOUVERIE rose to order. It was the practice when charges were brought against any hon. member to hear that hon. member, if he wished to make any remarks, before taki m n r g . R an o y E fu n t u th e er K tep so . me motion ought to be made before the member is heard. The SPEAKER—The quest ion is, lie upon the table. lotl requested ted LE ti V ie E p ß er , mis wh s o io w n a o s f h _ called for, that the petition do then rose and far a eagle suegmio4 us, 4.1. on the slightest fo • emphatically that there was , ouse to s t a t e u,,__A:.finctl and 440 'Petitiep. ow, bear.) lie unlation BRITISH POSSESSIONS. ,4,x-1 r -Railway4. l o Paid. Atlantic & St Lawrence Bom.,Baroda&.Cent Ind Gu. 5 per cent.. Do, Do. Buffalo and LaKe Huron Do. New . Do. Preference Buffalo,Brant&Godrlch 5 p. ct. bds. Aug. 1, 1872 Do. do. July 1, 1873 Do. do. June 1, 1871 Clcutta. &S. E astn.f (Lim) 20 Cape,Eastn.Prov. (Um.) 20 Cape Town & Dock Scrip 20 Ceylon Guarantd. 6p. c. 17j Demerara _ 20 Eastn. Bengal gu. 5 p. el ocklEast Indian, gu. 5 p. c. ODo. F Shares Ext Do. Jubbulpore Do. 4i p a Debentrs Do. 5 p. c. Deb., 1864 I Do. 1865-1870 bock Grand Trunk of Canada DO Do. 6 per cent. Pref )0 Do. 2d Pref. 6 per et )0 Do. 6 per et. 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It was not right that he should be continually annoyed by a man without character. He had documents with him which would establish the truth of his statements, but he thought the fairest course would be to appoint a committee of inquiry. He should, therefore, move that a committee of inquiry be appointed. (Hear, hear.) Mr. CONINGHAM said that the other night Mr. Irwin was charged with forgery, but he had appealel from his conviction, and the question was still under consideration. Mr. ROEBUCK—Hear, hear I Nine months in gaol. Lord J. MANNERS rose to move that the petition be referred to a select 'committee. Mr. ROEBUCK—If a committee is appointed, it ought to be directed to inquire, in the first place, whether the matter contained in the petition is of such a nature that the house ought to take cognisance of it. Would the house toke notice of it if it referred to the hon. member for Galway in his private capacity? I say that the accusation comes from a man who has been convicted of forgery. To tclt me that the question of his guilt or innocence is still under discussion is utterly futile and false. The - trial was in 1835, and the man lay nine months in gaol as a convict. Mr. CONINGHAM-110 appealed. Mr. ROEBUCK—Appealed in 1835. We all know the meaning of that phrase. The man is a convict forger. He has brought actions against my hon. friend, he has been cast in them, and he is going through the court because he is un able to pay the costs. The whole matter is sub-judice, and. it would be unworthy of the house to sow broadcast the accusations contained in this petition. The hon: member for Brighton (Mr. Coningham) has not even stated that he is prepared to move for an inquiry. It would be unworthy of the house to send the petition to a committee without a preliminary inquiry whether it contains matter into which inquiry ought to be made. Mr. BOUVERIE hoped the house would not in if hurry take a course of which it might afterwards repent. The house hid better determine the question now before it, namely, whe ther the petition should lie on the table, before considering what further steps should be taken. The proper course would be, if the house meant to proceed further in the mat ter, that the petition should be printed, and that on a sub sequent, day, after due "notice, either the hon. member for Brighton or the hon. member for Galway should move to refer it to a select committee. (Hear.) They might then discuss the petition, whether or not it was a Matter into whiCh the house ought to inquire. If this course were not taken, they might be embarking upon an inquiry into the private affairs of members into which they had no right to inquire. Lord J. RUSSELL—The course taken as yet is perfectly regular. I quite agree with my right hon. friend (Mr. Bouverie), that the hoase ought to take any future steps with deliberation and caution. The hon: member for Brighton having given notice to the hon. member whose conduct is impugned, has regularly brought before the house a peti tion containing grave charges against that hon. member. The hon. member has challenged inquiry, and he was per fectly right in so doing. But it is for the house to consider first, whether this is a sort of charge which ought to be in quired into by the house ;, and, secondly, what precedents there, may be in similar cases. I do not think anything should be resolved on to-day further than that this petition, if considered at all, be printed for the use of members only. Formerly, when petitions cif this kind had been printed and circulated, it had been justly complained that the house was circulating libels. He saw no objection tolhe petition being allowed to lie on the table, and to be printed for the use of members, and then any hon. member on a future day might make a motion respecting it, being of course respon sible for his suggestion if he recommended an inquiry. Mr. CLAY concurred in the suggestion of the right hon. gentleman and the noble lord. He was glad that the hen. member for Galway was ready and willing to meet the charge against him, and he remarked that the fact that the petitioner had been convicted of forgery was not in itself a reason for refusing an inquiry, inasmuch as the forgery had been condoned by his subsequent employment by the hon. member. Mr. MALINS said that a•petition containing charges of fraud against an hon.. member required the serious considera tion of the house, but considering the position of the peti tioner, the statements in the petition ought to be received with the greatest caution. Before the house embarked upon an inquiry into the conduct of any, one, of its members, it ought to be considered whether such conduct could be in • quired into by any tribunals of the country. If the charges were of a civil c.r criminal nature, the petitioner could pro ceed in the courts of law or equity in England or Ireland ; and if the charges were substantiated, it would then be for the house to consider whether the hon. member should be expelled or not, as in the case of James Sadleir. Suppose the petition were read, and ordered to be referred to a select committee, in what capacity were the members of the com mittee to act ? (Hear.) Were they to act on the same as judges in the courts of law or equity ? If so, then he would merely say the ordinary tribunals were open to the peti tioner. For this house to enter upon an investigation of this kind would be going far beyond their jurisdiction, and would be a course fraught with great inconvenience and danger. Sir S. NORTHCOTE said he thought the hon. member fer Hull (Mr. Clay) had, in taking notice of something said about the character of the petitioner, stated that the hon. member for Galway was not in a posi+ion to refer to the charge of forgery, because he had, by employing Mr. Irwin, condoned that crime. It was not fair towards the hon. mem ber to make that observation, and he rose to claim fair play for him in this matter. The house would not act upon the statements of the hon. members for Galway and Sheffield, but upon the statements of the petitioner made in the courts of law and before a select committee of the house, and it appeared that when the hon. member for Galway made the acquaintance of the petitioner he was utterly ignorant that ho had been convicted of forgery, or of his antecedents. (Hear, hear.) Mr. CLAY rose to explain, and also to express his regret. The observation which he made was addressed to the hon. member for Sheffield, who had stated that the petitioner was unworthy of their notice because his character was bad. He did not wish to state anything unfairly against the hon. member for Galway, or to prejudge the question. Sir J. PAKINGTON said it was hardly necessary that the house should dwell longer upon the matter, and he thought it was the wish of the house to pursue the course pointed out by the right hon. gentleman the member for Kilmarnock. Mr. PAULL said it seemed to him that the house should not give notoriety to this petition, and they ought to be en treutelyjealous before they consented to assist the petitioner in making these charges against an hon. member. The house had heard sufficient of the allegations, and they ought not to encourage such persons as the petitioner to come before them, but leave him to the proper tribunals of the country. He begged to move that the petition be re jected, because he thought the matter ought not to go further. Col. FRENCH thought that if the petition was to be printed, the usual course should be followed of giving notice or leaving the matter to the committee on printing. He saw no reason why they should depart from their rules. Mr. PAULL rose to explain, but was met with loud cries of "spoke" and' order," and consequently he resumed his seat. The house divided— Ayes . __ 99 Noes Majority The'petition was then ordered to be laid on the table. Mr. HOPE said he had twice voted for the reception of the petition, and he had done so, net because he had a good opinion of the petition, and still less as to his case, but of re he felt that it was impossible, o n the general principle ceiving petitions, to shut t heir doors against a petition of this kind, and thus give to members an immunity which the allega fothe hon. for the o ther persons did no t p ossess. (Hear, hear.) Having voted for the recepti on of the petition, he might now s t a te that he thought , before a member presented a petition of this kin d he ought, to a certain extent, satisfy ground whether t h i himself that contained there mem ber for Brighton was prepared to follow up this matte r by moving that th e alle g ations of the petition be in quired into ? iwt."Hperiwmiashefadd:oe " o The SPEAKER —The hon. member ought to have ar.) con cluded his inquiries wit h a m otion. (Hear, hear . ) Mr. CONINGH AM said it had been his • intention to move for a select committee to inquire into the matter of the petition, and he would now give notice that he would do so o n a future day. The SPEAKER—This is a question of privilege, and, therefore, it is competent for the hon, member now to move that the petition be printed. The course pursu ed in cases that analogous to this is, without notice, a mo tion may at once be made that the petition be printed, and for the use of members only. Mr. CONINGHAM then moved that the petition be printed for the use of members only. Colonel FRENCH would not oppose the printing of the petition, if it were distinctly understood that the hon. mem ber would found a m otion upon it. (Hear.) Captain JERVIS thought that something should be said for those who had voted against the reception of the petition, because it had been stated out of doors that the house wished to cover an hon. member from any inquiry into his conduct. It was perfectly well understood that the house could reject a petition. He did not see why they should receive a peti tion which was presented against a member, but which they would not receive if presented against a private individual. If the petition had not been presented against the hon. mem ber for Galway, and directed against the Galway contract. the house would not have heard a word about it. It was an attempt on the part of those who disliked that contract, and wished to get rid of it—(hear, hear)—to bring the matter under the notice of the house. Mr. CONINGHAM begged to say that if Otose observa tions were directed against him, he wourd give them the most distinct and emphatic contrinuctiou lb had no per- 1