The Sun. — London, England, 1827-03-09 00:00:00

House having resolved itself into a Committee (Sir A. Grant in the Chair), Mr. CHARLES GRANT moved the first Resolution. When the CHAIRMAN was about to read it, Mr. BANKES said, that as he meant to move that the scale of protecting duty should be raised from 60s. to 64 5., he thought that that was the most proper time to offer him self to the Committee. The Hon. Member concluded by moving, as all Amendment, that when the average price of wheat should become 645. (instead of 605.), the protecting duty should be one pound per quarter. Mr. BARCL A.Y was glad that all parties had now nearly come to an agreement as to what ought to be the maximum price, and trusted that that circumstance would facilitate the de cision of this question. On the ground that the present proposi tion offered a fair medium between high and low prices, and would t herefore equally benefit the manufacturing and protect the agri cultural classes, he should support it. Lord ALTHORP had already expressed his opi nion upon this subject, and he was very happy to find, that what he had said had met with the approbation of his constituents.— (Hear, hear.)—He was very glad to be able to tell the House, that at a meeting of the farmers on market day, they had declared their full approbation of 'l.e present measure.--(Heai, hear.) Mr. FERGUSON thought that it was impossible this debate could terminate without taking a more general turn t han that of a discussion upon the difference between 60s. and 64 5• Ile was of opinion that the question ultimately would be, whether 30 s . at the price of 509, would afford an adequate pro oftion to "the grower. N evertheless he approve d o f t h e pr i nc i ple t he Present measure, s i nce, i n compar i son w i t h t h e Act o f 1815 , he thought it was calculated to restore order and perma nencY to th e pr i ce of corn. He ob j ected, however, to the duty now Propos e d to b e la i d on barley and oats, and if it was deter mined to preserve that duty, he felt so strong an objection to it, that he should feel himself compelled to vote against the Bill. b ep Alt . CANNING had been asked why 60s. had cult - 'elected a s th e me di um pr i ce ? P er h aps i t wou ld b e diffi -Ito say why tbere had been any selection of a particular point . variety w hi c h h a d been offered to their choice, but he be theleved that 60s. had appeared by analogy to be the natural point at °f 8° W hich the me di um pr i ce s h ou ld b e fi xe d. I n 1815 t h e sum °. Was assumed as the medium in reference to the averages of the twelve p receding years. During the first six years, the to gang' had o n ben 98s ,and during the latter six years it had fallen i .„'`, l . Below even the latter sum the medium had been chosen, and been fixed at 80s , in consequence of the cessation of the c ,,'" and the decrease of ' those inflated prices which had been ti e : teti by it. In 1822, the sum of 70s. was assumed, because p e „ Prec e ( ling averages had rather gone beyond that sum. The a „ - r- Was accordingly assumed rather below than above the aver 'e : f t he Preceding - twelve years, during the first six of which th e and'e had been 709., and during the latter six years 50s.— average of these two averages was within a fraction of 605.,. avera&teaverage was supported by the evidence of the positive Itav er the 1 the last four years, which was also 60s. On these h e rages the medium price of 60s. had ',seen now selected. , T ex is i sti " t ia ion had been made, although some circumstances now el , g k erred to justify the choice of a lower price. The pre sen t Nealption o f t h e average me di um pr i ce was, t h ere f ore , mos t ha:l_ le ", especially with regard to the agricultural interest, who th ese u eeu rather favoured in the selection. If the rule which f analogies seemed to have established was now departed ,r°lll, .r tu s i seemed to him that they would fix a medium price arbi fiahl Y. Such a course would not be safe, nor would it be justi , e, merely because some of the agriculturists might consider it ire-a4°Laahle. Another question which had been asked was, why ne e : : a nY alteration? His answer was, because of its positive wh eat Y; for by the law under which we are now living, till, could g ut 11 1) to the former price of 80s., not one single grain tut„ he admitt e d i n t o th e coun t r y. If it was now poss ibl e to go th e L.t e a rgument, he thought he could most distinctly convince ez i kt °Mmittee that such a system could not long continue to 6.--(Hear, hea r !) objected the :10nel WOOD t o t a k e i the averages n if t h e , which th e Ri g h t Hon. Gentleman had proposed ; and th• in a ",,nssion was adjourned till to-morrow, he wished that one It b esides th e amount o f t h e med i um price should be noticed. e l es "" been said that the calculation was made upon the Win bushel. Now, he believed, he w as correct i n assert i ng th se ter k tw o LY law the Winchester bushel had c ease d t o ex i st w i t hi n t h e e b 7, t Years. He therefore thought that if the discussion s h ou ld ado JOurned till to-morrow, the Imperial measure should be t -"„ sn, hru as the standard of calculation, and in conjunction with Ztandard the sum of 645. as the medium price. w ; 411 e CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER i i ,;";rcl to say a word or two in explanation of the supposed diffi- Ise, of the two measures. It was undoubtedly true, that the gra .'sr the Regulation of the Weights and Measures had produced p e - e Leltpence, and some confusion, and at first sight it might ap plieiZqo so in the calculations upon the medium price, as ap there' the stand ar d measure o f corn . B ut if h e was not m i sta k en, m ete s -s an expr ess p rov i s i on i n t h e Act passed, for altering the a rnpe l • es, that th oug h men were compe ll e d to b uy and sell by the ret utl t l ia l Measure, yet the calculation of the Inspector and his bu s h el w ere to be made upon the standard of the Winchester nor k ; There would n o t, therefore, be any practical difficulty, Co u ld Y real confusion arising from this mode of calculation. He let consent to any alteration in the medium price. . was I ' C ALCRAFT thought that great confusion he t)i nl 7,ucecl by these different standards of measurement ; and Mt, gat the Act ought to be repealed. Winch .I)4 VIES GILBERT had recommended the ,„ blishea h ' r measure, but as the Imperial measure was now esta- P r efers Y th e law of the land, he thought they ought to use it in iv flet to the other. discuj' oh ill tOUGHAM really could not suffer this ditioa 0 1 r . Pass by without expressing his opinion, that the ad matterProposed by the Hon. Member for Dorset, was a in sil ence 4 ° khan importance, and ought not to be passed over of the c o ' Re heartily approved of the principle of the change we e°lll 4l r i l L La ws ; and he agreed with those te state.d that prese tt --. go on with the law in its present The was ewes3;stern ,„; ~ was one in which every possible disadvantage the o ne h-- 11 th e country ; i t was a system of constraint . on of la st ye n a r nd .' and monopoly on the o ther ; and the evidence It sve n a sy u silo wed to what "ii lery it was liable.—(Hear.) — receiv e t h e i at w e arrive ern under which t j he gg value of Corn would go on, till this, l b ofe7Peeo-- a famine price, before the country could hope to le a O b n enefit from ' importation. In consequence of this side the water might be starving on a price, arket3 w e was s price In 'I. 1 while hs elling at less than half that price at L. of Amsterdam • and till it reached the famine have tonew.......utehun• portatiou alone was permitted;relief they could . 1" "' in th e ; "'ear, hear.) So much for the harshness of these " °w did the: "' ear, on the consumer. On the other hand, s hiltPon thi °P "ate ou th e grower ? ILI what he was going to gy of etseß trusted he should not be accused of being w h ich he k n rt4 e ,...?bag the dumnable heresy of free trade ; a guilt Ipractices of ~-,,,Was accounted by some as the worst of the mal lauSh.) I ,l ?);`,iri Right Hon. persons.—(Hear, hear, and a ' tw i ce ! , he ' ,C o ",er, therefore, might be his opinion on that cause he wa s ~ uelhtl cautiously confine it to his own bosom, be rible crir n i naiie ° atiOo Which ~,e : arui to -°un d by any law to accuse himself of such ter expose himself to the dreadful denunci that poi nt Was, Ili.ore to follow it.—(A laugh.) His opinion on his f.onscienne, sued his religion, a matter between himself and e uritv ' --- "gte g i, tee he should do what he could to enjoy it in se of " d r ° as well a fo r tha t was clearly for the interest of the grower se steady. sr. ly neertain r 1 4 1 1 , 4 au re.gularity, of the consumer, that the prices should be man' of t_he aseragee, Th V e u ki thi s r espect, was opposed to all comfort and to be overwiteleasa hy a "ern of importation, from the mismanage daud other causes left the landlord liable to or' , am ong othe rs, Whether th e Illutaio,f inconveniences : and for that rea ‘ way of irop ro P y l.° Pesed new le4 the approach of a new system. did not m ean ae erets ; but h e 5 c „.,.. - `.t. Neat Whi c h sYStena went the whole length in the th en to state, he would have thoug ht desirable, he c ould not regularl; aen s o e rry to lle ni las in entitled t o keep his own ing permission jet. Let those t hose who did anothe r place , which he toy ent er ii,sl.(mao persons had pr . evailed in obtain . - othe r wish h inquiry upon this sub o f the Corn L aw . c 'r an a i te e na.o meld appear that g o o he nu th e ottld f'calltY " ° 4s ll , if not change go to the one side, and ratio n in the present system the &frai l and then, he believed it a c ed tho se who had taiked confin e ,l Lut any alteration would be were hostile to the ;Item, amWere t e h a considerable ed . about th e n ZelY to the Tellers. Ire. n aght at least to b I n min pri ce ot e ights and measures, and convince e ue ev i cad hardly etn 601 ., agreed that there embody in t t: Y ration in the present their speeches all other. T were the innumerable Y in ea c er h sQ o l e tg, he believed they Suppose they 4 w hich had hecoPamPhlets publish e d t had been stated in p erhaps, r ee d th P am bhilshed f On t his Slab. in coni,, and, Lindeed, now a treatise on logarithms or som e s ubj ect.—as to those weeks or months ago, few, world, .-....50u vir i resding•—(A laugh. ) ` B ut 44 aucb Pamphlets, - • be easy and light a ll the argum ents arkt i su ppose ts rea sun i ogs whi t leytm )e t e o n gozz ah r again t his subject in pa mphl , or otherwise, th ey could n P ot now h n . 0 convince each other e . 'tbe general principle of then an t they could di e , d what But they could easil y come to a vote oPe amendmentsuahotheui isuhordinatme the n ew syseeon q p u r e o s p t o in se n d e, tlovhtheethmer; any, 4 be made in the details of the new system. But in another place, he must not say where, they were proceeding upon quite another plan, and had already, as it was said, got into the mire and slough of despond, with refer ence to this matter. New inquiries bad been projected, as if there had been no Committees on this subject in 181 4 and in 1822, and there had been no voluminous Reports from these Committees. Notwithstanding all this it appeared in to be con ceived in a certain quarter that they were still the infancy of the question ; that they bad been all along in a com plete hallucination on the subject; and that it was still ne cessary for them to enter into an inquiry as to the facts. They said this was a most important question, and therefore asked that they should now be allowed to inquire into two points-- there was very good logic there—but what were these two points. First, an inquiry into the price at which foreign wheat could be sold in the home market; and next, the price at which wheat could be obtained in the foreign country? In order to follow up these inquiries properly, it would be necessary for the inquirers to examine into the state and effect of taxation in those foreign coun tries; into the parish rates of Poland, if there were any such rates there ; and into all the circumstances connected with Odessa and other ports.—(Ct of question, question, and hear, hear.)—That was the question, no doubt.---(A laugh.)—He begged of the House to hear him a little while. as be might not have an oppor tunity of addressing them on this stiaject again. But certainly he did not think that when they came to argue the question now, they ought to be called upon to enter into inquiries as to the po licy of Russia and Poland, and other States, since they had en joyed abundant opportunities before to make themselves acquaint ed with all the material facts that bore upon the subject. Most of the Members of that House knew the mode in which Bills were sent out of that House to the other. But in case some of the new Members might not be aware of it, he would state that the practice was, when a Bill passed the House of Commons, to ap point some Member of that House to carry it to the other' House. The Member who carried it up mentioned the passing of the Bill in the Commons, and desired their Lordships' concurrence ; but when the Bill which was now in con templation for carrying into effect the new system should be presented in the other House, with a request that they would concur in it, the reply might be, " No, we will not concur in it ; we have an inquiry pending on the subject ; and if you will please to come to us at the end of next Session, when our in quiries may, perhaps, be terminated, then we will inform you whether we shall concur or not."--(A laugh.)—He was one of those who had no hesitation in saying, that proper protection ought to be given to the agricultural interests ; but while he ad mitted that, he begged of the agriculturists to recollect that they were not entitled to any undue advantages to the prejudice of the other interests of the community.—(Hear, hear.)—To protect the agriculture of this country was just and necessary.—(Hear, hear.) —The farmers of this country, under all the circumstances in which they were placed, could not produce corn at the same price which formed a remuneration to the foreign grower. Upon this ground, he was perfectly ready to allow the agriculturists that ex traordinary protection which their extraordinary circumstances re quired. He was willing that, in consideration of the heavy bnrdens to which they were subjected, they should have an equivalent pro tection ; but beyond that point of equivalent protection he could not advance in their favour a single step. When any person pro posed to go beyond this in support of the agricultural interests, he acted in a manner as extravagant as it was unjustifiable. It was a mockery of all reason and common sense to say, that the agriculturists ought to have any thing beyond what was a fair and just protection. When the restriction on the importation of foreign corn went beyond its proper medium, it ceased to be a protection, and became a most unjust tax in favour of the land lords, upon all other classes of the community.—(Hear, hear.) — Many of the arguments urged against the Landowners had his de cided disapprobation. But at the same time it was a little too much to say, that the landlord should have for his corn in this country, more than double the price at which corn could be pro cured abroad.—(Hear, hear, hear.)—lt ought to be kept in view, that from 1735 to 1793, or 1795, this was an exporting country as far as respected wheat. That it was during the same period an importing country was true. But what was the price of wheat in the home market in the intervening period ? The average price was 455., and yet at that rate there were spe culations in England for carrying wheat abroad. He bad some doubt, therefore, as to the accuracy of some of these Reports re lative to the prices of wheat in foreign countries. For instance, it was stated that the price of wheat was dearer by ten shillings per quarter at Dort than at Rotterdam. This was most ex traordinary. The places were not much more than two hours' journey from each other. He had been at these places, and could not understand how this difference of price existed.— But the inference which he drew from the whole of this cir cumstance was this, that the present low price of wheat in the ports of the Baltic and other parts, was the consequence of a glut.—(Question, question.)—He could explain more in detail, why he thought that the price was the consequence of a glut.— but he would not enter more particularly into the matter at pre sent. But it was perfectly well known that the prices of wheat had been in the Dutch and Polish markets 575. and 625. per quarter, when we had no prohibitory corn laws at all—(Cries of question, question! and coughing).—He was not in the House in 1815 ; but he knew that the country was then in very particular circumstances, and that this, perhaps, might afford some justifica tion for a peculiar policy, respecting the Corn Laws, at that pe riod. But it was clear now that a reformation was required, and he wished that the reform in this, as in every other subject, should be gradual, and such as not to scare the minds of those who were to be affected by it. That was one consideration. Another was, that they ought not to make too great strides in the way of Re form, where great interests were in jeopardy. This doctrine was that which he maintained in all matters of reform—wheth er Par- liamentary Reform—Reform in the Law of Property—Reformin the Criminal Law—Reform in Commercial Regulations—Reform in the Agricultural System—or any other Reform—(Cries of " Question !" and coughing).—He was anxious to address the House then, because he saw that the next day they would be laid up with colds and coughs.—(A laugh. )—He concluded by observ ing, that the interests of the landholders, however important, ought not to be set against the general interests of the country. Mr. CANNING wished to set the Hon. and Learned Gentleman right on one point. The inquiry in the other House had been allowed only on the express condition that it should speedily terminate, and not interfere in the least with the progress of the present measure. In the meantime, he thought it better that the further debate on the question should he ad journed till to-morrow, when he understood an Amendment, the reverse of that now proposed, was to be submitted to the House. After a few words from Mr. Wodehouse, Sir John Sebright, and Mr. Baring, The Committee divided on the Amendment—. Ayes l6O Noes Majority against the Amendment The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the House Adjourned at a Quarter past One o'clock. THE MARKETS. haring been still m ore li m i ted than that of this day se , SOUTHALL MARKET. —M arc h 7 . 'asn'd"Pbni t 37 h the London and country buyers numerous, each This day's kind of meat met with a brisk sale, at the following prices per stone of 8113 s. to sink the offals. Beef.—..------35. 10d. to ss. Od. I Veal _. _ 4s. 6d. t o 6 s. Od . __ __ Mutton ___ The foregoing quotations are Beef and Mutton 2d. per stone higher than those of this day se'nnight ; in prices of Veal and Pork, no altera tion. But a small proportion of the supply left the market unsold. 8eef....,., Mutton LEWES 3IARKET.-9larch 6. 4s. Od. to 4s. 10d. Veal I 0 1 10 Pork Supply good, and trade dull. MANCHESTER CORN MAR KET.—March 3. The great surprise occasioned by the expected expose of the views of the Ministers on the Corn Laws, limited the transactions of the week to the mere necessities of purchasers. That expose, now before the public, induced a full attendance on 'Ch ange t o -d a y ; but the high commence ment of the specified scale of protecting duties, prevented any weight of business being done, even at a small advance. Sixpence per bushel more has been demanded for Wheat, and 2s. per sack on Flour, but in the present state of uncertainty, we do not alter our quotations. Customary Bushel. Pease (Imp. Qr.) a d. tos. d. Wheat (70th.) s. d. to s. d. Blu e , (Boilers) 7 6 7- 9 English, New 9 4 9 7 White...(do.) 0— 0 Red 8 810 Beans, Irish, 811 9 1 Engli s h Irish and F, 8 4 8 9 Canada—___ _.. __ BlO 9 6 Foreign ..—......--„.. 8 4 810 Barley (601 b.) For grinding--** 5 9 6 0 Oats (451 b.) English and Scotch 0 0 0 0 Welsh,. _ 0 0 0 0 Foreign Irish, Kiln.dried ........... 4 9 411 ---Undried.- 4 8 4 9 Per load of 6 Impi. bushel. Malt, New .....--........48 0 50 0 Old . 0 0 --- Inferior ..•.......,37 0 44 0 0 58 0 51, 0 _:oreign.--47 0 Per bag of 2801 b. Flour, Fine Notts 45 0 46 0 - Yorkshire,fine44 0 45 0 - Irish, fine 0 46 0 - Seconds 40 0 42 0 Barrel Flour Sweet 0 0 Sour-49 0 31 0 Per load of 2401 b. Oatmeal, English &c.— 0 42 0 Irish 0 41 0 Old (food) 0 34 0 Tares (Imp. Qr.) 0 0 0 0 Bran (broad) per 201 b. ls.3d. a 15.50. A new kind of punishment has been inflicted in Lisbon upon an English soldier. Wishing to have his fill of Port wine, and his finances being rather in a low state, he sold a pair of breeches, to obtain the means of quenching his thirst. This fact having been reported to his superiors, the soldier was to stand sentinel two hours at the door of the barracks in full uniform, but without his breeches.—French Paper. Os. Od. to Os. Od 40 4 6 SPIRIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURNALS. The tone of Mr. Canning's late speech on the Catholic Question, and the manner in which he treated the Master of the Rolls, who yet professed that he was not one of his Majesty's Ministers, has somewhat inflamed or inflated the rumours about the changes in Administration, and the claims of personal precedency in the ap proaching arrangements. If a colleague of Mr. Canning should take Lord Liverpool's place, both at the Treasury and in the House of Peers, then is Mr. Canning lowered inasmuch as the other is raised. Though stationary, his relative position is changed ; and if an enemy of emancipation (such as Lord Colchester, for example) he admitted into the Cabinet, then is Mr. Canning's power abridged, as much as his dignity is obscured. These observations, springing out of the reports in circulation, will indicate what the reports are : they are probably unfounded; but when it is known that changes must take place, and vacancies be supplied, conjecture will take upon it to prescribe the ap pointments. For our own parts, we know not who is capable of taking up the various threads of negotiation which are in the hands of the present Foreign Secretary, were he removed,— among which threads that of America is not the least knotted and entangled : and if he remains, how painful to resign the post of honour to a younger and a feebler man ! Mr. Huskisson's illness is worse than injurious at this moment ; it is ominous. The partial favour of Lord Liverpool could hardly protect its object during his Lordship's health and vigour ; it will be but little thought of now in his ill ness and necessary retirement. If other men's examples could but teach humility to those who are given to be proud of talents— who would wanton without restraint in the insolence of wit—the present situation of the Secretary for Foreign Affairs Might instil that lesson. If he were contending with the great, if lie were trafficking with his equals in genius and spirit, his contest would be honourable, and there might be no shame in a defeat ; but to sink under the vulgar hate of those who dare not show themselves, and, undermined by their mean arts, to be obliged to leave the path open to rivals of respectable name but humbler powers, must inflict wounds that will be felt, but cannot he described, Times. A very beautiful specimen of the importance of a class of men to themselves, was afforded in the House of Lords last night. Lord Lorton, alluding to some attack which had been made on him by Mr. O'Connell, in the Catholic Association, said, "he would merely remark, that the Dublin Convention was the great source of all the disturbances which existed in Ireland, and they caused all the miseries of that unfortunate country." The history of Ireland has been, with such few exceptions, a history of dis turbance and bloodshed, that the exceptions naturally make an impression even on the most thoughtless, and are easily remem bered. Now it so happens, that one of these rare exceptions,—one of the few periods of complete tranquillity in Ireland, commenced with the commencement of the Catholic Association, and has con tinued during its whole existence. So well is this understood, that, during the discussions in Parliament, which preceded the Act against the Association in its first shape, the peace of the country vas actually made a ground of accusation against that body. The able writer of an article on the Catholic Association in The Parlia mentary History and Review for 1825, happily observes on this point, "If the Association had not pacified the Irish, that would have been a reason for putting it down ; but it did pacify the Irish, and this also was a reason for putting it down. It was discovered, that as it had power to quell disturbances, it pro bably had power to raise them ; and as it was probable that it had the power, it could not but appear certain that it had the will. Upon this principle, we should be justified in throw ing a man into prison for helping a drowning person out of a river. If he had power to drag him out, he has power to push him in ; so dangerous a man must not be suffered to go at large ; no time must be lost in depriving him of the means of doing mischief." But Lord Lorton's position is, for all that, not without a meaning—." The Dublin Convention was the great source of all the disturbances which existed in Ireland !" Only put Lord Lorton and a few of his caste for Ireland, and then we shall be able to understand his Lordship The Catholic Association. We have no doubt that the Association causes no small degree of disturbance to all the great and little oppressors of the country. The dread of exposure through the Association must operate as a very unpleasant restraint on gentlemen. The handwriting must be frequently seen on the wall. Now so long as disturbances in Ireland were confined to the peasantry—so long as they amounted merely to the burning by Rockite or Whiteboy peasants, the haugards of other peasants, the evil was to be borne. But when gentlemen are interfered with in the exercise of their supremacy over those who ought to vote as trustees for them, but who, at the instigation of the Association and their priests, presume to have a conscience, and hesitate to perjure them selves, that is quite another affair. That is being " the authors of all the miseries of that unfortunate country." One of the Members of the Association had even had the insolence, in speaking of his Lordship, to use a very expressive, but very odious monosyllable; and of course that was more than a sufficient reason for putting down the association; and his Lordship con cluded with observing, that it was indeed "an indelible disgrace to the Government of Ireland, that the Association was not put down." The Lord Chancellor availed himself of the opportunity to give Sir W. Plunkett what may be called a rap over the knuckles for his leniency to the Popish Convention. "He would say, that he would not believe, on the authority of news papers, that those things had passed in the convention which the Newspapers described, because it was impossible, if such things had passed, and evidence could be given of them before a jury, that the parties should not be apprehended who had behaved as described in the newspapers. It was impossible to believe that such things had occurred as had been represented." So much for the lesson read to the Irish Attorney-General. Lord Clan carty improved upon the Noble and Learned Lord, for he said, "he should be sorry to be connected with those who stood in the situation of the Law Officers of the Crown.—Morning Chronicle. No men in the world were ever more justly entitled to have re.. course to the well-known exclamation of " save us from our friends" than the Catholics of Ireland. We allude, of course, to the steps taken and the language used by their friends out of Par liament—for in Parliament no cause was ever served with more zeal, fidelity, and talent. But in Ireland itself, not only are the imaginary and alleged wants and wrongs of the many made the stalking-horse of the personal ambition and aggrandizement of the few, but these latter—either, as may be charitably hoped, mistaking their course, or else finding that to say one thing and mean another answers best their own purposes—have done more to defeat the object they profess to have in view, than has been accomplished by all the opponents of the measure, great and acknowledged as the zeal, talents, and exertions of many of them have from first to last been. No one who has attended to the conduct and lan guage of thosewhliamocahnot, butoset mocuoant be satisfied,sider themselv es that far the more e th th ol a i n c leaders out of Parliament, the small majority by which the question has recently been lost, have been alienated from ,the cause of the Catholics, by the intem perance and folly of these the most bitter enemies of the cause which they profess to espouse. Had the persons to whom we al lude, instead of wantonly and madly scattering firebrands among their followers, given their minds to the same calm and temperate view of the subject which distinguishes that talent by which their cause is supported in Parliament—had they, instead of inflamma tory menaces, used their influence to assuage, and, if possible, remove the well-grounded prejudices of Englishmen upon the subject—had they, instead of insisting upon unqualified de mands, set their minds to devise such qualifications,and securities as would have quieted the apprehensions of the timid, and silenced the fears of prejudice and of bigotry, an opening might have been made, and a first step, at least gained in the New Par liament, instead of that which has been lost. That it has been' lost, we think can astonish no one who h as con t e mplated the efforts of the persons to whom we allude. O n th e c ontrary, it is only to be wondered that, under such circ u m s t ances , the majority against the Catholics has been so small. W e are t o ld a great de a l of the discontent, the irritation, and still m ore ser i ous consequen ces which are likely to ensue in Ireland from the di s appointment whi c h the issue of the question is likely to produce. We do not beli eve any such thing. The enlightenment which is taking place throughout Ireland by means of the press of this country, w i ll we are convinced, induce the bulk of the people of that country to appreciate the services which have been rendered to them by their friends in Parliament, and convince them, that it is only b y a calm and patient obedience to the laws, and an entire abandon ment of all injudicious and unnecessary excitement, that they can ever hope to obtain the objecfs they have in view. it is im possible for the well-informed part of the Catholics to read with attention the ,debates upon this occasion, and not to perceive where their error (or rather that of their s elf-constituted organs) lies; and that ever to obtain their object, the first step should be to retrace the many false steps those organs or leaders have taken. The lower class of Catholics, too, cannot forget that it was but the other day that those very persons who now profess so much zeal in their cause, were the authors of those very "wings," by one of which the political rights of the whole mass of forty shilling free holders were to be sacrificed and done away with, and that under the ridiculous pretence of obtaining for them civil rights and pri vileges, of, to them at least, infinitely less value. For these, and many other reasons, which will naturally present themselves, we hope and believe that the rejection of the Catholic Claim s , upon this occasion, will have no other effect upon the sensible part of the population of Ireland, than to induce them to reform and to disclaim the errors by which, for the present, their object has been 105t,..-/forning Herald: POLICE INTELLIGENCE. BOW-STREET.—Mr. Raikes, whose difference with Mr. Brougham the public are aware of, was brought to this office on Tuesday night, in custody of Smith, one of the principal officers, for the purpose of entering into securities to keep the peace, in consequence of the misunderstanding to which we have alluded. Mr. Raikes was accompanied by Mr. Hughes Ball and another gentleman, who came forward as his bail, and the requisite securi ties having been complied with, Mr. Raikes and his friends retired. UNION-HALL.—A man named Cushion and his wife were brought up to this office, charged on suspicion with having mur dered their infant child. It appeared that a few days back an inquest had been held on the body of a child which was found in a privy at the rear of a tenement in which the prisoners lodged, situate in Loman's-pond, Southwark. The evidence adduced before the Coroner merely went to prove that the female prisoner bad been suddenly taken ill on the night of Thursday se'nnight, and that her husbr..nd had got up out of bed, and was heard to proceed down stairs and return back to his room soon afterwards. When the body of the infant was found, which was stated by a medical man to have been a full-grown one, suspicion immediately attached to the female that she had been delivered of a child, and that the circumstance of her husband having gone down stairs on the night in question, for the purpose of concealing the birth, by throwing it into the. place where it was afterwards discovered by a female named Smith. No individual, however, summoned on the inquest, could satisfactorily prove to the Jury that the female was observed to have been pregnant pievious to the discovery of the body of the child, and therefore a verdict was returned on that occasion which exonerated the accused from the charge. Subsequent to the inquest they were apprehended, and placed at the bar of this office, before the sitting Magistrate, R. J. CHANI- Baas, Esq., when the following evidence was adduced in afidition to that taken before the Coroner. Mrs. Belworthy, landlady of the Duke's Head, in Loman's Pond, stated that the female prisoner was decidedly pregnant previous to to the body of the child having been found. The female prisoner—l am innocent of the charge. I know nothing of the child that was found in the privy; at the same time, Ido not deny hut that I had a miscarriage a few days back. Mr. CHAMBERS-Was your husband present at the time of your miscarriage ?—No, he was not; but I informed him of it afterwards. Her husband here stated that his wife bad spoken the trtitli.— " She could not," added he, "have been delivered of a full-grown child, from the time we have been married." Magistrate—But can you state that you tad not been carnally connected with her before marriage ? Cushion—l can swear I never had, for I have been at sea until within the last four months. After the examination of several other witnesses, none of whose testimony went to prove the charge against the prisoners to the satisfaction of the Magistrate, although he remarked that there was considerable suspicion attached to the female, he discharged them. As soon as the prisoners were out of custody, and had got some distance from the office, they were Stacked by a rabble, who had been lying in wait for them, and their lives in all probability would have been sacrificed to the exasperated feelings of those by whom they were attacked, had not some of the officers been near the spot, and prevented further outrage. DISCOVERY OF INNOCENCE. The case of Hannah Russell, who, together with Daniel Leany, was convicted at the Lewes Summer Assizes, for the supposed murder of her husband, must be familiar to most of our readers. It will be remembered that Leany was executed on the Thursday after the trial, protesting his innocence to the very last ; and it would now appear that he was really guiltless. The woman was respited on a point of law. The evidence against the prisoners was merely circumstantial, yet it was deemed conclusive by the Court and Jury, although some individuals who were present at the trial were of a different opinion. The medical evidence was deemed very strong in proof, that the man was poisoned by ar senic ; and the witness was Complimented by the Court for the decisive manner in which he gave his evidence. An eminent surgeon of Lewes, well known in the literary world, Mr. Mantell, who happened to be in Court, did not, however, consider the ap pearances of the body of the deceased, as described by the wit ness, or the tests employed, as conclusive, and while the examination of the surgeon was going on, he handed a note to the prisoner's Counsel, suggesting the propriety of other questions; but, unfortunately, this suggestion was not at tended to, and Mr. Mantell being called out of Court, and hearing afterwards, from the highest authority, that the prisoners were convicted upon the clearest evidence, considered that any interference in their favour would be improper and unavailing. Finding that the poor woman was respited, (Leany having been executed), and that the more he reflected upon the case, the more improbable did it appear that Benjamin Russell's death was the effect of poison, Mr. Mantell communicated his doubts to the High Sheriff, and they were immediately laid before Mr. Baron Graham, who, paid great attentionlo the communication, and en couraged Mr. Mantell to investigate the case in the fullest manner possible, with the valuable aid of Mr. Ellis (the solicitor who con ducted the woman's defence), and who generously tendered his ad vice and assistance gratuitously. Mr. Mantell was, at length, enabled to obtain such a mass of evidence, that the Learned Judge expressed his conviction that there were grave and seri ous doubts whether Benjamin Russell came to his death by arsenic or any other poison, and directed Mr. Mantell to obtain this additional evidence in the form of affidavits, and transmit it with a memorial to the Secretary of State. The result was, the free pardon and discharge of the poor woman. It may he inte resting to our readers to know on what grounds the innocence of Hannah Russell has been established ; but we can merely state, that in the affidavits alluded to, it was alleged that the appearances on dissection were equivocal, and more likely to have been the effect of disease than of poison ; that the tests employed were un satisfactory, and that metallic arsenic ought to have been reproduced by a process therein described; that the time in which the death of Benjamin Russell took place was too short to be the effect of arsenic. that the deceased had been for months previously to his death, sub ject to an affection of the heart, which was likely to have pro duced sudden death after any violent exertion, and yet might have left no appearance of disease in the heart after death. The conduct of Hannah Russell while in confinement in Horsham gaol has been most exemplary, and we trust this fact, together with his Majesty's free pardon, will have due weight with her former neigh bours, and lead them to view her past sufferings with regret, and receive her among them in the spirit of Christian charity and be nevolence.— Times. NIFETINGS OF CREDITORS. LONDON DI ARY..—SATURDAY, MARCH 10.—(At the Court of Commis- sioners, B.asinghall.stree't.) Bannister, T., Norwood-green, brewer COUNTRY DIARY.—MONDAY, MARCH 12. Board, J., St. Michael's—London inn, Taunton Collins, R., Chew Magna—White Lion, Bristol Ferryman, J., Cheltenham—Royal Hotel, Cheltenham lO Hepner, W. and 1., Armley—Court-house, Leeds min, J., Roehead—Court of Requests, Huddersfield Robertson, T., Oxford—King's Arms, Oxford lO Sharp and Co., Newcastle-upon-Tyne—Half Moon, Newcastle ll Stroud, G., Gloucester—George, Gloucester l2 Wakeford and Co., Andover—Star and Garter, Andover 4 MARCH 13 Baggott, R., Ledbury—Feathers, Ledbury ll Beatson, A., Hudderstield—Mr. Allison, Huddersfield ll Beaumont, W., Stedshill—Mr. Allison, Huddersfield ll Bunting, J., Liverpool—Commercial inn, Sheffield l2 Calbreath, G., Houghton—George, Newcastle ll Cash, J., Liverpool—Star and Garter, Liverpool ... H Goodrich, C., Ltton—Old Sand hill inn, York • 11 Hacker, S., Canterbury—Guildhall, Canterbury ll Hallewell, W., Sheffield—Angel, Sheffield l2 Higgs and Co., Bristol—Bush, Bristol Hodgkinson, It, Cucknev—Red Lion, Worksop ll Holgate, W., Stainton Cotes—Golden Lion, 'Settle, Yorkshire Irish, M., Lewes--Star, Lewes 44 0,41•• ........ ..... 11 Ledgard, E., Brighouse—Swan, Huddersfield ~ . 11 Pattinson and Co., Leeds—George, Kingste _Pe mat n-Hull . ............... /1 Musgrave and Cc., Wincanton—White HOW, Wincanton ......... ... I r Robertson, T. Oxford,- ; King , a Arms, Oxford ...................... ,„,... 10 Halifax—Swan, Huddersfield ~,........... 12 Sharp arid Ca, Leeds—Court-house, Leeds Sehorfield, J., Sontbowram, „, .. ...... ............. 11 Skinner, R., Tiverton—Angel, Leeds Smith and Co., Hanley—Swan, Hanley ...., .................................. 12 Strickland, A., New Malton—Etridge'a hotel, Lendall Th om as, W., Ledbury—Feathers, Ledbury Walker, IL, Prestomr-Mcssrs. Blanchard and Co., Pr es t on INSOLVENTS APPLYIN( Petitions to be heard at Portug M!►RCH 13, G TO BE DISCHARGED, al-street, Lincoln's-Inu-Fields, A.l` NINE. Lee, C. Leeds Lucas, W., Castle-street Matthews, J., City-road May, E., Wighorough Mills, 1., Tipton Green Page, J., Birmingham Pearson, T., Spitalfields Price, D., Westminster Scott, 8., Walworth Wallis, ~ Marylebone Butti, A., Clerkenwell Chalener, R., Hoxton Church, C., Spitalfields Collins, T., Hoxton Cowling, W., Huddersfield Greenaway, G., Green w i c h Gun n, S. J Loughborough un., H a dland, J., Flower, Notts Jackson, J., Barnsley Jac k so n, J., Pudsey COUNTRY.—At the Court-house, at Norwich, March 12, at Ten. Richardson, T., Attleburgh, farmer At Lynn, March 14, at Ten. Taylor, R., Lynn Curson, R., Lynn At Southampton, March 14, at Ten. Baron, .J., Southampton I Richmond, R., St, Mary SPORTING INTELLIGENC4, Very little was T was done, indicates a change in the places of ' favonribst. A doneT T E yesterday 11 S A Ll. ' o S n . — a :l y a o r th ß e t3 B . ta i efi, but what tif Web keeps rising, with every chance of becoming high as his brother two years ago, unless he should run and ge beat for the Riddlesworth. The St. Leger betting is very un ' ; iaso r much, that it is difficult to say which is second fav unite for ten minutes together. The only horses backed were the ollowing:.— DERBY. 5 to 1 agst Web* 9 to 1 agst Tatter 14 to 1 agst Defence 14 to 1 agst Espagnolle 18 to 1 agst Trumpeter 20 to 1 agst Elfrid 22 to 1 agst Bfameluke 22 to 1 agst Gustavus 23 to 1 agst Spondee 23 to 1 aget Cathefine 24 to 1 agat Dablist No others mentioned. 11 to 2 agst Maria 15 to 1 agst Duchess 15 to 1 agst Totteridge 18 to 1 agst Pantina 18 to 1 agst nunstition 18 to 1 agst Souvenir 20 to 1 apt Morel 22 to 1 apt any otfier. :GER. 20 to 1 apt Nivalis 23 to 1 apt Moonshine 23 to 1 apt Matildg 25 to 1 apt Granby 16 to 1 agst Jupiter 17 to I agst Reviewer 18 to 1 agst Olivera 20 to 1 agst Popsy 20 to 1 agst Sancho Those marked th is (49 were taken. MANCHESTER MEETING, 1827. LORD NfOLYNEUX AND HENRY BOLD HOGHTOW, ESQ., STEWARDS, WEDNESDAY, JUNE 6.—The Wilton Stakes of 10 sprs. each, with Fifty Sovereigns added, for all ages.—Three-nor olds to carry 6st. four, Bst. 11b. five, Bst. 101 b. six and aged, 9.1 t.— Mares and geldings allowed 31 . o.—Twice round the Course and a distance. Derby, I J. M I ytton, T. Houldswrth, W. Wynne, J. White, J. Clifton. r The Produce Stakes of 50 sovs. each, h. ft. for three-year old colts, Bst. 31b. fillies, Bst.—Untried stallions, &c. allowed Twice round the Course and a distance. Mr. Houldsworth's b. f. Leda, by Filho da Puta—Palatine's darn br. c. Bhurtpore, by Magistrate—Elephant's dam Lord Grosvenor's br. f Burlesque, by Blucher—Boadidia Sir W. Wynne's b. f. by Catton—Fanina Sir W. Wynne's br. f. Brenda, by Catton..Banshee A Free Handicap Stakes of 30 sovs. each, 10 tom it., with Twenty Sovereigns added, for four-years olds. Two mile and a distance. Sir G. Pigot's b. c. Granby, by Spectre—Sunflower 8 4 Mr. Beardsworth's b. c. by Amadis—Misa Cragie 8 0 Sir W. W. Wynne's ch. c. May-Fly—Alexander Sir T. Stanley's ch. g. by Tiresias—Maid of Lora 7 12 Mr. Johnson's b. f. Vesta, by Governor, darn by Sir Peter 7 le Sir J. Byng's ch. c. Males, by Tramp—Margaret...,. 7 10 Mr. Thompson's ch. c. Predictor—Paulina 7 0 The St. Leger Stakes of 25 soya. each, with Fifttotereigns added for three-years old colts, Bst. 61b. fillies, Bst. lb. The St. Leger Course—one mile and three quarters. . Lord Derby's b. c. by Magistrate—Rosalba • Sir W. Wynne's b. f. by Hobgoblin—Signorina's darn Sir T. Stanley's ch. c. by Sir Oliver—Racket, by Castiel "*" 4 Mr. Houldsworth's hr. c. Bhurtpore—Elephant's dam !• Air. Giffard's b. c. Billy Lackaday, by Spectre—Morgiana Air. Johnson's ch. c. Jupiter, by Tramp, darn by Sorcerer:l. Lord Grosvenor's b. c. Gros de Naples—Bombasine .` Mr. J. Scott's b. c. Nonplus, by Catton, darn by Walton Mr. Mytton's br. c. Lechmere, by Master Henry or Csitrei Mr. Clifton's b. c. Fylde, by Antonio—Fladladinida t His Majesty's Plate of One Hundred Guineas, for four-year olds and upwards ; four-year olds to carry 10st. 21b. ; five, Ist. ; six, I Ist. 51b. ; and aged, 1 lst. 71b.—Heats, three milts and a distance. THURSDAY, JUNE 7.—Two-year old Sweepstakes of $0 sows. each, h. ft. ; colts to carry Bst. blb. ; fillies, Bst. 21b.-41.vaa quarters of a mile. t Mr. Houldsworth's ch. c. Vanish, by Pbantom~Treastue ‘ Mr. Giffard's b. f. Fairy, by Tiresias—Dimity 4 Lord Grosvenor's b. c. by Blacklock—Tempe .- Mr. Petre's b. f. by Whisker—My Lady , Mr. Leicester names b. f. by The Marshal k Filly Stakes.—Sweepstakes of SO sows. each, k. fl. for throklear old fillies, Sst. 31b.—One mile and a distance. Sir W. Wynne's b. by Smolensko, dam by Beningbrough t.' Mr. Houldsworth's b. Leda, by Filho da Puta—Treasure Mr. Johnson's ch. f. by Whisker—Ringlet's dam s beet4 An Elegant Piece of Plate, value 100 gs. added to a Su iion of 10 sous. each (with Fifty Sovereigns added, to b e giv to the owner of the second horse), for all ag e s. Th w olds to carry fist. 61b. four, Bst. 21b. five, B s t. 101 b. si sad aged, 9st. Mares and geldings allowed Slh. Two mile : and a distance. Lord Derby's gr. h. Autocrat, by Grand Duke, 5 yrs Lord Derby's br. c. Necromancer, brother to Urganda, 3 yroL Sir W. Wynne's br. m. Signorina, by Champion, 5 yrs Sir W. Wynne's br. g. Orthodox, by Filho da Puta, 6 yrs Mr. Nowell's b. h. Longwaist, by Whalebone, 6 yrs Mr. Deane names br. h. Brownlock, by Blacklock, 5 yrs I t Mr. Houldsworth's br. f. Fanny Davies, by Filho da Puta, 4 yrs Mr. Johnson's b, f. Vesta, by Governor, 4 yrs Mr. Leicester names b. m. Fleur de Lis, by Bourbon, S yrs' General Sharpe's b. h. Canteen, by Waxy Pope, 6 yrs Lord Molyneux names br. h. Doctor Faustus, 5 yrs Sir T. Stanley's ch. h. Grenadier, by Waterloo, 6 yrs Mr. Gleave's b. h. Miller of Mansfield, by Filho da Puts, 6 irrs Mr. White's br. c. Euxton, by Rinaldo, 4 yrs Mr. H. B. Hoghton names b. c. Granby, by Spectre, 4 yrs Mr. Sykes's b. g. Cock Robin, by Blacklock, 5 yrs Lord Grosvenor's b. g. Glead, by Bustard, 6 yrs Mr. G. 0. Smith names ch. c. Leviathan, by Muley, 4 yra Mr. Rushton names b. h. Sam, by Rhadamanthus, 5 yrs Mr. J. Smith's ch. in. Sophy, by Comus, 5 yrs Mr. Thompson's ch. h. Cyrr.Leiine, by Octavian, 5 yr% Mr. Clifton's b. h. Brutandorf, by Blacklock, 6 yrs ch. h. Mr. Munn, by Ardrossau, 5 yr s Mr. Mytton's br. h. Flexible, by Whalebo:Ae, 5 yrs L A Maiden Plate of 601. for horses, Bv.i. that never won. yrs. old to carry Ist. ; four, Be:.. 41b. ; five, Sat. 91b. ; sixl.l aged, Sst. 121 b. Mares a nd geldings allowed Slb. Hatt, twice round the count' : and a distance. The second to be en titled to 101. FRIDAY, Ju1 4 74 B.—Sweepstakes of 15 sovs. each, 5 WWI. tt... with 30 sovs. added, for three and four-year olds. Three year-olds to carry 6st. 91b., and four•olds, Bst. 61b..; f -, Fillies and geldings allowed 31b., a n d m a id en horses, S UN St. Leger Course. Lord Derby's b. c. by Magistrate—Rosalba, 3 yrs Sir W. Wynne's br. c. Sancredo, by Filho da Puta, 4 yrs Sir W. Wynne's ch. f. Lattitat, by Champion, 4 yrs Sir W. Wynne's b. c: brother to Signorina, 4 yrs Mr. Houldsworth's br. f. Fanny Davies, by Filho, 4 yrs Mr. Houldsworth's br. c. Bhurtpore, by Magistrate, 9 yrs Mr. Johnson's ch. c. Jupiter, by Tramp, 3 yrs Mr. Johnson's b. f. Vesta, by Governor, 4 yrs Mr. Leicester names gr. c. by Catton, sister to Bourbon, 2 yrs Mr. White's hr. c. Euxton, by Rinaldo, 4 yrs. A Silver Cup, value 50 sovs. added to a Sweepstakes of 5 save. each, for horses, &c. not thorough-bred. Three-year olds to carry 9st. 10Ib., four, 11 st. , five, llst. 10th., six and aged, 12st. A winner once to carry 51b., twice, 71b., and thrice, 121 b. extra. To be rode by Ge7.tlemen. Proper certificated to be produced before runnirtg, that the horse; &c. is not thorough-bred. Two miles and a distance. Mr. Leicester names b. m Antiope, (late Miss Holland,) 6 yrs Mr. Parkinson's ch, c. by Walton, dam by Apollo, 4 yrs Mr. Grosvenor's gr. g. Thompson, by Buffer, aged Mr. Memil's ch. f. Edith, by Waxlight, 3 yrs Mr, Richardson's br. g. by Ardrossan, 4 yrs Mr. Alderson's h. e. Paul Pry, by Bigot, 3 yrs Mr. G. 0. Smith's bl. h. by Bourbon, 5 yrs Mr. Thompson's bl. g. Oliver Snape, by Aladdin. A Plate of 100 sovs. for all ages. Three year olds to carry bat. 71b., four, Bst. 21b., five, Bst. 101., and six and aged, 9st. A winner of one Plate in 1827, to carry 31b., of two or more, 51b extra. Mares and Geldings allowed 31b. Heats, twice it round the Course and a distance. The second to be entitled to 101. EAST INDIA SHIPPING. The Marchioness of Ely, Mangle; was to be the first Cotte pany's ship to sail from Bengal, Dec. 28. MADRAS, OCT. 9.—Arrived from Bengal, the Jane, Moncrief; 13th, the Theodore, Langlois, from Bombay. Sailed, Oct. 10, Lady Raffles, Cornwall, from Bengal ; 11th, Circassian, Douth wait, for Ceylon and London ; June 14, Moncrief, for Point de Galle. Passengers per Lady Holland, from Madras—Col. P. 0. Ag new, Mrs. Agnew, and three children; Major 0. Reilly; Capt. Beddingfield ; Capt. H. Stone ; Capt. Hele; Capt. Woodgate ; Capt. W. B. Rowley ; Capt. Wilson ; Mr. Harris ; Mr. Ely, and one hundred invalids.