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ti rable htemlor's persons whose ion was ordered from Kingston, ton.—The peti imittee. the House re• English Reform the question Was iche , luk A. 102 of Medon was n con& quence of its bei.ag placed t that it might roes., no which ;wards (1'27,000 ; entitloti to the his intention of ugh at a future being I:ormected intended at some ng should return i was i.ix times e two additional ,ur. He trusted to du I subject. Reform Bill, but had done. rthy Colleague in lint Hedou should a more corrupt ‘leinber opposite or population had and opulent pact :o the propositions 207,000 inhabi similarly circuit r, and such discre exist. According •t of England that accuracy, the ut n which could not essed the slightest dditional Nlember be should un- lber be given to Member to Par- ' ught that surely into schedule A ► a pen through lg what such a e. He wished to rd Althorp), who pure its utmost hick he was lolly the other Mini , .emed to pay but indeed), why a stand in the same in a parish? He Caine, Tavistork, eep their places as rnt. Though he the superinduced uld not help con egarded the Es , t not to be a Bo- The public, the require, and must Elation respecting iect to certain be d lion. Members= were investigating ree of minuteness -a measure which , ellian in its cha- ce, said if boroughs nation as those in would hardly be ole country would uld not go into Caine, Tavistock, ,e proper period to nchised would be Learned hlember they should be ich a motion be :olleague should be should not go into iding Members to hat forward would nmittee, proposing mat his Maj,sty's r population and ation. Minist, rs Yen allowing their ey had given go at only, when po sses, the effect of afair, partial, and try strong cam, for :ens had been made ounty Minntiers of it appeared to I ben laid down isinnations thrown g in that borough, IV.IB easy to assert ises really existed. was in the same sure his Majesty's r returned to that pies than he wsii, eeerley in Parlia home offer, made pendent borough, but be bad de is he considered to ower he would en- sal of communice- I from documents ; the Members for to fur or against le determination of in, schedule A. the Hon. Member for f the borough, and ame of his patron. er Heclon should be ayes being pre .he schedule. _ Heytesbury and edule A, for which ed in the affiriria- ()rough of llindon .t only wasting the d that the 150 her ny modified system' rliament.—(lleary it for his seat; he Milers, into which rismigrsted, would the country in far one word on the ught where it was injustice—(hear. to the enfranchise hat the best coupe of these borough' by which all itu• ctually done swill on the subject, the proper titre lonest electors of coin them ; and ,vatted or in.ulted he Bill by making tee for, if they did iad need of amend" oily in and a large titers to pass the head ;" or, to toe tither on a former ler to his boroug h was covered wit 4 lie tip of the chin , is (Hear, heard u tn.ke a sacrifice led that the tner Morin, and that 1 t eft shoulder to th e t described to the istocratic measure. not be duped bY • tav in t• lt ca lla a wimp • to *Mob It wag not Pnt;tlA, and it could not be called a measure in favour of the people, if it took away-the franchise of any part of them without city, He would write to his constituents to-morrow, acid tell . .them yesterday they were killed.—(A laugh.) H owever,.he would endeavour to restore them by moving at a future' period that this borough be incorporated With sorne others. In illustration of his opinion that the Bill was too much of a Reform, and by its great disfranchising clauses ought not to get so great a na me, the Honourable Member said it reminded him of a circumstance which he heard when a young man about tW entY years ago. A foreigner arrived in France with the tautologous name of Mouski•Moutiki. Ile was ac costed by a Frenchman, who asked him—" Comment e aPpelle to ?" " Mouski-Mouski" was the reply. " Ah, ' 4 " anti," rejoined the Frenchman, " soyez Jlfouski si "us voulez, coals vous ne serez pas Illousid-Moushi: 'eta ne passe pus." The Frenchman thought that a man should not have a monopoly of a name ; and in the same w ay he (Mr. Weyland) would say that this Bill ought not to have a monopoly of the name of Reform if it were nut a Reform Bill in reality. He did not wish to see the People under a delusion as to this Bill, which they cer t'inlY were, if its effect should be to take from them wholly the rights which they had inherited from their ancestors. Sir C. WETHERELL was gl id to hear this from a reformer. He was glad to find that a reformer admitted t he injustice of taking from those boroughs the tights Which belonged to them, arid excluding them wholly from shar e in the representation. He agreed with the Hon. Member that there were persons out of doors hallooing on the Afinisters.—(Hear.) Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN complained of the time °l , the House being tak e n up by d esu lto r y co nversa ti ons , ( w nieh had no connect i on w h atever w i t h t h e quest i on be fore them. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman opposite never failed whenever lie rose to speak on all kinds of Pestions and might v er y p ro p er ly b e com p are d to th e I twYer Endless in the play._-( Hear, hear.) He hoped that the Chairman would in future exert his authority to Put a atop to such lengthy conversations.—(Hear.) GOULBURN quite agreed with the Hon. Alder taao that the time of the House ought not to be uselessly hiu ted ; hut he thou g ht th a t th e H on . Ald erman h a d n iself afforded a practical illustration of the violation of the doctrine which he had propounded.—(Hear.) Sir C. WETHERELL said that his conduct in that Wif„, e was solely gov e rned by his o wn discretion. lie to -4 under no or d ers to spea k, nor was h e un d er or d ers not ''P e sk.—(Hear, hear.) He could, however, mention a ' a ce, the Memhe:s of which were under orders not to speak, but to vote.—(Hear, and laughter.) They were " f li.it•et to a sort of Old Bailey judicature, and if any one e th em wished to hear evid en c e b e f ore he gave his vote, Would be arraigned at its bar.—(Hear, hear.) The P i ' l ee he alluded t o was the city of London— (Flea ) , hear) 44 if the Hon. Alderman presumed to speak what his f n,,stituents might not like, before that base and new- T 'led he would be arraigned —(Hear, hear.) g ' l ouse had lately witn e ssed one of its Memb e rs dis -444hi1l dragged before that cature—(Hear, hear)— 01 whic y h he was ordered not to speak, but to vote.— ( si ' t. sri hear.) Rather than submit to such controul, he tvilli C. Wetherell) would perform any penance; he would 'beetl •• g Y in preference stand a whole morn ing to a white 1,C --- (Great lau g hter.) "e CHAIRMAN of the Committee submitted to the th e "' slid Learned Gentleman, whether it was right, upon th question of the disfranchisement of Hindon, to ( occupy t s t ,itoe of th e Comtnittee with another subject ?—flear.) 'lid (-•''• WETHERELL would throw himself on the groent of the House.—(Cheers from the Opposition.) I I : asked whether he had not been first attacked by the 44 n; Alderman, w h o , w i t h a f acet i ousness not common to kr e 4 _ lde rma „ _(Latighter)—picked something out of some T h : or pl ay , an d appl i ed it to him.—(Hear, bear.) (t ie Vi the H o n. Ch a i rman h a d ca ll e d hi m to order— t,r hear)—lre wished to know why lie might not en his justification, and be permitted to declare that L t 'reatird with ineffable contempt and ridicule the oh ol.stions which had fall en from the Hon. Member for Hear, hear.) p o uf'4l JOHN RUSSELL hoped the present discussion not be continued. 1, 11 4 , 1 r. Alder man VENABLES, leeing one of the repre k,',4tives of London, hoped to be permitted to give his IC' entire contradiction to the statement made by the I. 'l d . e nd Learned Member, that the representatives of mn were at all restrained ` oftih respect either to their osZ t v i ll on. ° ‘ r their vote r —(Cries " Oh !" from the Op- A)lderman WAITHMAN was elected by his fel l:11,10wZ t n s , upon a full and fair declaration of his opi that'l,4•l'' i t lie departed from that opinion, he considered I s, ir is constituents had a right to call him to account. LE E exPressed his belief that the inhatsitants of k rill " were favourable to the ministerial plan of Re- Ai r - 7,,,,(8ear, hear.) ths t h or ' Y EYLAND ran the risk of losing his election for l istn". °u gh, in consequence of having, in the last Par -1.6 voted for the Bill which disfranchised it. 14 4. , e question was then put and carried, that Modem 7,u4lisrt of schedule A. e next question was that " Ilchester stand part of A.° PETRE did not rise to object to the motion, for favourale to the Bill, but to pronounce a short , oration ov e r the borough—May it rest in peace . ,iehe ster was added to schedule A. 1 1‘ ' 4e CHAIRMAN then put the question, " That East stand part of the same schedule." 1 ;r• DAViES GILBERT suggested the propriety of f r l4 g West Looe and East Looe together, for the purpose one Member. 11. A. HOPE also spoke in favour of joining the two Zglis together. r * STANLEY said that the two borou g h s had ti „''.Peil themselves as being total . ). distinct, by each re. two Members. ONNELL said, th a t th e re was on e b o rou g h A ft ( 2trupt tha n E ast L ooe , an d t h at was West Looe. 4 ,. d : r a few wor d s from Mr. KEMMIS, which were not L oo u " , J. RUSSELL sa id , t h at suppos i ng any except i on st it be 'node to the plan of the Bill, he slid not think is, t i c " Were the particular boroughs which ought to Nir.ie advantage of it.—(Hear.) Lit, d, 4 '..; BARING said, that if these boroughs were 'Lis /tie : l ' 4 'y would cease to be nomination-boroughs, in L ich we t " of the new constituency of ten-pounders 4 hwiti old be created. The Bill propose d a monstrous 4 ry i t °ll of the representat i on o f t h e sout h ern , in ord e r per to th e northern, pelts of the country. More th e al lY was the transfer made from the agricultural commercial interests.—(Hear.) He cs rtainly tope that the different interests in the State ought to iitatirestiated, but he saw no advanta -e in giving repre• :_ifhs " e t ti nt v_a • terin , g-pl aces such a!i Chelte , nharn.—(Hear.) 4 Si fewe."4NCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER admitted pas S tembers w ou ld s it f or C orn i s h b oroug h s a ft e r 5 slo ts 4 „g of the Bill, b ut b e t h oug h t t h at t h ere wou ld rt e at „ of m en returns d from Cornwall than there L'a•a t s ,eot.—(M uc h c he er i ng .) letrrnt"lETON considered the decision which the , " earn e to last night respecting Downton to be Parture horn the rule which the Noble Lord had 't -44 Y ex! but only the addition of another rule to that istin g _ titto), b AWSON was surprise.' that any man o f fear, senhe fro cou nt the w conduct of Min i about rules and principhs, when I tt Esters last night, • Y i: i t ! t ended to be guided by neither one nor the d s "e Hon and Learned Member for Kerry had 1 1l wti ps, , a l e only true principle on which the House _ 1 : 1 41 4e _ with any degree of fairness—namely, the I•euse of of all boroughs which were under the st come °I u 5,,,,• • and . -striation, that shape the question cL store the H ouse , o f er a ll t h e di scuss i on of th taken p 1 lice. H ow th en wou ld ;Ministers gut 4 s? e dif fieuity in which they had involv e d them -100 to ) A t f i ter the passing of the Bill, the borough of Pit a . Q he more than ever under the nomination of 4 I eei i d atie • Ws,uld the public he satisfi e d w i t h i 4ii o ' \; ? N, No, they would laugh at it. ,ert at ,:,ELL said th e Right Hon. Gentleman i i !c we ? of a di sappo i nte d T ory turne d Whi g. In calisr "tfurther than N 1 higgism, and touched upon hefo; B ereaits-r, if th e R a di ca l s should attempt t o 4St b° ° f urther, they wou ld ta k e T ory speec h es f or d ie . If th e Right Hon. Member would pro se,otti . . un sement of Mahon he (Mr. O'Connell) bo te u rn , otion. II s object was to get rid 0: f ac et tedg n s , by means o f w hi c h persons t o t a lly 4 ti i,tow th the places they represented found seats ?. I) A . Atso N . std not vote wishedit to he understoosl, that he r hb, er• the disfranchisement of any borough 4d is who e at ti_on. and Learned Gentlemen's sneer at , 1 2:i ttl ea,,,, e _S . for places with which they were uncon 04,kr : L v r i e t e h a very bad grace from one who had been 11 ° triem counties, arid was only slightly connected I t tININ,„:_ th. ruf L e __'x'Y begged t o remark that whilst the lee .r ood Member tOr Kerry- had been retu rned 1 1 a , with which he was unconnected, the lid fa,„ ii",eeritl.eman had found it impossibl e to get re iirelp, 444 °Elly county with which he was connected. • 84 0 , ,ughter. ) ' LI EN said that measures ought to be taken .t .7r Trtel-POI VOT'Twq . - s to check the Overflowing influence of the democracy in this country. The question was then put and agreed to. The next question wa., " That the borough of West Lone stand part of schedule A."—Agreed to. On the resolution being put that Lostwithiel stand part of schedule A, Mr. GOULBURN observed that by a note to the re turns, it appeared that the borough of Lostwithiel ex. tended to two other parishes; making a population of 3,11Y7. Moreover, it was the county town of Cornwall. Lord JOHN RUSSELL referred to the rule established in the case of Appleby, that where a borough extended into another parish, tl.e whole population was not to he computed; and denied that even if that were not so, the numbers in the present case would be sufficient to exclude the borough from the schedule. Lord VALLETORT observed that when a question was once put by a Court to a person who had been de clared guilty of a crime, why he should not be sen tenced, the answer was that he was innocent ; on which it was observed that he was old and impotent, and there fore must be punished. Now he allowed that the bo rough of Lostwithiel was old, but he denied that it vas impotent. It was net less fit for the exercise of the elec tive franchise than when it first esjoyed that privilege. The resolution was then agreed to. On the resolution that Ludgershall be included in schedule A, Sir S. GRAHAM expressed the cordial assent of the nominator of the borough to its extinction.--(llear.) The resolution was then agreed to On the resolution that Midhurst be included in sche dule A, Mr. J. SMITH rose, not to oppose the resolution, but, on the contrary, to give it his entire approhation. At the same time he observed, that during the last thirty years the burgesses of th it borough had never received a shilling, nor one favour, direct or indir,ct, for their votes. After a few words from Mr. CRESSET PELHAM, the resolution was agreed to. A resolution that Milbourne Port be included in sche dule A, was agreed to without observation. On the resolution that Minebead be included in sche dule A, Mr. LUT TRELL stood before the Noble Lord as be fore a Judge with the Hack cap on his head. He must, however, contend, that the course which the Noble Lord and those who supported him wore adopting, was unjust and unconstitutional. The borough of Minehead extended into the parish of Dunster, and the population of the former was, in I S2l, 2,134, and of the latter 1,235. It was singular that it appealed by the recent returns, that the population of the latter had grown exactly to the amount of that which the former had been, viz., 2,131. He maintained that the parishioners of Dunster, if they were bona fide occupiers of houses in Minehead, were as much entitled to ♦ote as the parishioners of Minehead.— Even if there were any deficiency in number, Minehead was situated in an agricultural district, highly popular, in which there would be no difficulty in making it up.— After various other observa.ions, which were not dis tinctly audible in the gallery, the Hon. Member cf , ncluded by moving, as an amendment to the resolution, " That Minehead be struck out of schedule A, and placed in schedule B." Lord JOHN RUSSELL opposed the amendment. The case of Minehead w ay the same au the case of Lostwithie'. He referred to the returns t show that, by the rule ap plied to that case, 111inebead was not in a capacity to be comprehended in schedule B. Mr. GOULBURN denied that the principle applied to Lostwithiel was applicable to M nehead. Lord J. RUSSELL observed, th it the right of voting possessed by the parishioners of Dunster belonged only to those who resided i❑ Miuehead. After a few words from Lord MILTON, The Clerk read front the Journals a former resolution of the House of Commons relative to the borough of Mine head, which stated " That the elective franchise in the bo rough of Minehead was in the parishioners of Minehead and Dunster, being housekeepers in the borough of Mine head, not receiving alms," Mr. ROSS contended that Minehead was fully enti led to one Member, as the parishioners of Dunster ought to be included in the number of ten- pound housekeepers to whom the elective franchise was extended. Mr. STANLEY repeated the explanation already given respecting the limits of the borough, declaring that only a portion of the parish of Dunster was included, and adding, that within those limits there were only 1,745 inhabitants. He accordinJy maißtained that Minehead should be placid in schedule A. Mr. S. WORTLEY was of opinion that the parish of Dunmter ought to be included, as, by the resolution of that House, it was clearly contemplated they should enily an advantage over all strangers. Lord ALTHORP again explained that the whole of the parish of Dunater was not in the borough, and that the being a parishioner of Dunster, without being also a house keeper of Minehead, conferred no right of vote; there was consequently no reason why the external portion of this parish should enjoy the elective franchise. Sir E. SUGDEN maintained that, according to the resolution of the House, the words of which he repeated, the right of voting resided in the parishioners of both parishes—the parish of Minehead and the parish of Dunster. Mr. STANLEY denied that the right existed in all the parishioners, but simply in those parishioners who were were housekeepers of Minehead. Sir E. SUGDEN repeated the opinion, that according to the resolution the parishioners of Duneer enjoyed privileges with respect to the borough of Minehead which could not be extended to strangers ; and he thought that under the existing circumstances the franchise ought to be extended to the two p urishes. Mr. O'CONNELL contended that Minehead ought to be disfranchised, and that it was mere special pleading to say that the parish of Dunster generally should enjoy the right of voting. Any person residing for a time in the borough would have the same privilege with a p irishioner of Dunster. Sir W. LIORNE did not conceive the parishioners of Dunster generally had any right to be calle I in. Mr. GOULBURN argued that the parishioners of Dun ster stood in a peculiar position, and were, aecolding to the principle of the Bill, entitled to vote for MineheaJ. Sir R !'EEL observed, that it was not the fact that strangers who resided and parishioners of Dunster stood in the ?ame p(ssition respect to Minehead, because a pa rishioner of Dunster being a housekeeper, was forthwith entitled to vote for Minehead, whereas the stranger should previously acquire a right of settlement. Sir C. WETHERELL concurred in the statement, and was of opinion the franchise should be ext nded to Duuster. Mr. O'CONNELL thought every man residing in a parish was a parishioner, and consequently, if in Minehta I, would, although a stranger, have as good a right to vote as the parishioner and housekeeper of Dunster. Sir C WETHERELL repeated that the stranger should in the first instance acquire a right of settlement. Mr. ATTWOOD contended that all the parishioners of Dunster had a right, an imperfect right it was true, but still one which was entitled to respect, and he thought the franchise shou;cl be extended to the parish. Mr. PRAED explained the different position in which the mere stranger and the parishioner of Dunster stood in respect is Minehead, and was in favour of communicating the right to the parish. Dr. LUSIIINGTON said that no claim had been made out on the part of this borough fur the continuance of its elective franchise. He did not think that the right of voting depended upon the payment of the poor rates, and even if it did in the present instance, still he thought that, with respect to the borough of Minehead, it would be too much to continue it when it was clearly one of the nomi nation boroughs. Mr. HUDSON GURNEY contended that the parish of Dunster ought to he united with the borough, as that parish had been a borough in the time of Elizabeth, and had returned Members at that time. Sir C. WETHERELL said, that, for the purposes of representation, Dunster and Minehead were the same p'ace and might be united as one borough. Lord JOHN RUSSELL answered, that a residence in Minehead was nectasary to give the tight of voting, and that consequently the parish of Dunster ought not to he taken into consideration in the calculation of this matter. Sir J. SCARLET I' observed, that though the pay ment of poor rates did not, perhaps, alone give the right of voting, still the payment of the poor rates was general!) taken as evidence of the right of voting, and that was the reason why the two were so often united in the " last reso lutions" of the House of Commons. The right of freedom in a borough was often only a mete personal right. If the payment of poor rates was in this case any proof of the right of voting, to disfranchise this borough would be to disfranchise the two parishes. Mr. GOULBURN was satisfied, so far as the arguments went, that the parish of Dunster ought to be united to the borough of Minehead ; yet lie would not divide the House upon it. The question of the borough of Minehead forming par of schedule A was then decided in the affirmative, without division. On the question, " That Newport do form part of schedule A," Sir H. HARDINGE admitted that Newport came A,1LT05119 Tr JO within the line laid down by the Noble Lord. That line was most arbitrary and unjust. Ile submitted only to that necessity to which others had submitted in similar instances. He should only observe, that the borough had possessed the franchise above 800 years, and had over been charged with abuse in the exercise of it. The only offence of the borough was that it was inconsiderable. The motion was agreed to. The question " that the borough of Newtown, Lanca shire, do form part of schedule A," was also agreed to. On the same question being put with regard to the borough of Newton, Isle of Wight, Mr. GURNEY rose, amidst general laughter, in which he himself could not help joining. He was understood to say, that he was astonished the Hon. and Learned Soli citor-General was not in his place to say something in favour of this borough.—(A laugh.) This borough never had possessed a population on account of which it was allowed to send Members to Parliament. It had returned Members to that House in the right of its burgage tenure; and for rears it bad been in the hands of one branch of the Royal Family. It afterwards came into the hands of a privive family, and the patronage thus possessed had al ways been exercised io the most proper and constitutional manner. This was a case of spoliation, and in yielding the franchise of this borough, he only submitted to that ne cessity under which the weak always were obliged to sub mit to those who for the time had the strength in their hands.—(Cheers.) For himself, he had long represented this horoarair—he had always been independent, and that independence had neva r been touched upon by the advice of constituents.—(Hear, and a laugh.) if he saw the extinction of the borough of Newtown, he should have the consolation of knowing, that he had never seen a Member of that borough make himself such a spectacle for men and angels as the four Members for Lo )(lon had been.—(Loud and continued cheering.) Mr. O'CONNELL said that the people would under stand that cheer, but it was but a small still voice com pared to that cheer of joy which the introduction of this Bill had produced from the people of England, Ireland, and Scotland. Their cheer bad in a voice of thunder announced the death-warrant of these boroughs. Mr. ATTWOOD asserted, that the constituency of this borough had always been respectable, and so had been the character of its representatives. After such a borough was marked out for disfranchisement, and was denounced as worthy of a death.warratit, he should expect that the Peerage would be denounced, and finally, the House itself denounced.—(Heir, hear,) Really the decisions of this Committee appeared to him to be only suited to the revo lutionary assembly of France.—(Hear, hear.) Lord JOHN RUSSELL could not sit still, and hear, night alter night, those attacks upon Members of that House, and upon the Members of the city of London in particular, without saying that these attacks had no foun dation whatever in reason or justice ; and that thus con tinually repeated, they were most offensive to the House. One lion. Member had said, that the decisions of the Com mittee were founded in iniquity ;and another Hon. Gentle man had asserted, that their decisions were only suited to the revolutionary assembly of France. When he beard these assertions made, he could not sit silent ; but must say, that in the House of Commons, so long as he had sat there, he never had before heard such langtnge used towards the majority, as those Hon. Gentle men had thought fit, night after night, to indulge in.— With respect to the Members for the city of London, the plain truth of the matter was this—The last Parliament was dissolved en the question of Reform ; and when the candidates presented themselves to the notice of their constituents, they were naturally asked what were their opinions on the question of Parliamentary Reform.— Having seated their opinions, and their constituents' opi nions and their own being found to agree together, they were elected. When, after having thus expressed their opinion, they gave a vote which appeared contrary to the opiniena they had stated, it was very fair on the part of their constituents to ask how they could prove that that vote was consistent with the opinions they had declared upon the hustings.—(Hear, hear, and No, no.) They had heard much of the excellence of nomination boroughs, and those who defended them seemed to think that there was nothing so independent aed so pure us a nomination borough. Now, he should like to know whether Noble Lords, who were borough proprietors, never asked the per sons whom they were about to return what were their opinions with respect to this Bill—(Hear, hear)—and whether, if one of these persons should say, " I am an enemy to the Bill, I think it hostile to the best interests of the country, and I will oppose it to the full extent of my power ;" arid if, on that understanding, that person should of tain a seat ; and if within one month afterwards, that person should give Iris vote for the second reading of the Bill, the Noble Lord would not ask him how he could reconcile that vote with the previous statement of his opinion.—(Hear, hear, hear.) He must say that those who talked of time M ml.ers for London being degraded, and being in a state of depethnce, spoke in the most irrational manner, and as long as he had a seat in that House, and as long as he continued to be a citizen of London—for citizen he was—he should feel it was his duty to defend the city from the imputations thus cast upon it by the minority.—(Hear, hear.) S r J. SCA 11,LETT and Mr. SADLYR rose at the same moment. The CHAIRNIA N declared that the former had the right of precedence, and he addressed the House. He had been not a little surprised at the zeal of the Noble Lord on this subject, until he heard the Noble Lord's peroration, when he found that the Noble Lord spoke with the feelings of a citiz nof London.—(Hear, hear.) He rose only in cons quence of what the Noble Lord had said, and in order to express his &sag's ement from time statement of the Noble Lord, e - iat the citizens of London had done no more than their duty in calling the Hon. Alderman, one of their representatives, to account. That act of theirs seemed to him to be an illustration of the inconvenience of multiplying very much the number of representatives who were to come from places in the im mediate neighbourhood of the metropolis.—( Hear, hear.) As to the quest on put by tire Noble Lord with respect to t H ir c e ilic.e odct of Noble ,niu,ewouldnut say what iu sending at‘l.as tiie A c le.m a , se be w rs into itha that lithe Members for boroughs; but he could answer with respect to some Alembera in the negative. It was true that con stituents did require to know the general sentiments of those whom they elected as their representatives ; but there was a vast difference between the sort of jurisdiction lately exercised by the city of London, and th it sort of dissatis faction which was felt at men who were found deviating from their pledges.—(Hear.) The Hon. Alderman whom they had called to account, hail not broken his pledge to them—he had only done what was his duty as a Member of that House. Ile was acquainted with certain facts relating to tl e borough of Appleby, anil he had given the House the benefit of his infotniation. He must say that the jurisdiction thus exercised was a popu lar jurisdiction of a most inconvenient kind, when a sub ject was actually under time consideration of that II hear.) If he required a proof of the inconvenience and mischief of the sort of representation which this Bib prooosed to introduce, he could not expect a stronger proof of it than the one to which he now alluded. Could that be a deliberative assembly—an assembly of men sent there to exercise an honest opinion, where those sent were thus liable to be called to daily account for their conduct ; and if, at any time, a vote was given by their Member, to send a notice to him to attend iris constituents and explain Lis vote to them ? If such a representation was to exist, it would no longer be a deliberative assembly. Ile never was disposed to consider the people as the sovereign in the sense of the sentiment that was always employed to express that sovereignty. The Members of that House were sent there by the people.—(Loud cheers from the Ministerial ' benches.) He did not call the people either entirely tire mob or the ten-pound householders.—(Hear, hear.) There could be no deliberation if all they were to do was to know what was the will of the people and to execute it.—(llear, hear.) Ile could not avoid making these observations, for he thought that au recent and so strong an example could not be passed over. He could not agree with the Noble Lord, that no allusion ought io i.e made to the subject. 0 r the contrary, he thought it ought to be alluded to as a warning to that II ,use against giving more than sixteen Members to the places in the neighbourhood of the Metropols, 1 every one of whom, during the time that any great qu,:stion was depending in that House, would be liable to be petually called to account before another deliberative assetuhly.—(Hear.) Every parish, at least every p Irish within tire reach of the Moaning Journals, weuld contain on e of these deliberative assemblies, which would daily sit for the purpose of every morning calling the Member to recount fur the vote lie had given the night before.— (Hear, hear.) Ije asked whee her coils was the represen tation that men could wish for at least, whether it could be desired by those who wished to preserve the safety had never ngi. f:iv,,,(ce of time Thron e , or o f t h e Constitution ?--(Hear, hear.) Alr. Ald erman WAITHAIAN hal never heard a more unjust, and ar t o tht t . l re T ir e ,u lion. e might a l most say a more malevolent conductallu ion. G of hisenoceomnastnitoupenpotssittheaLd spoken had been ira favour of r o tt en b oroug h s, and had sa i d much in favour of his ow n i n d ependence; but he (Alderman Waithmau) rof heard thei that igh I t s l oann.d liberties etrtiern of the ie people.-- (Cheers.) utter e o o n p e l e s . c_ (Cheers.)n • Ile wou ld tear l ess l y declare that the law A/embers for the City of London came into Parliament in 3 more honourable way than any other four Members in that iiouse.—(Oh ! hear.) Candidates for time honour At 9 J, ni baud]. d • ~t-Ana -s;s3 • • . . of representing the City stated the sentiments they en tertained upon the Bill, and the people had a right to see that those sentiments had been acted up to by the Members. • The Members for the City came into Parliament free of expence. Had that Hon. Gentleman done the same? If not, would the Hon. Gentleman get up and tell the House what sum he had paid.--!Hear, and no,•no, no.) One of those who had attacked the city representa'ives was himself a citizen. Now they had heard much of the superior intellect and information of the 'Members for boroughs. If that was true, and if those Members were on the right side, and were convinced that they were so, why did net they attend the public meeting in the city, and show that the citizens of London were wrong.—(Hear, hear.) One Hon. Member opposite often met them at city dinners.—(Hear, hear, and laugh ter.) Why did he not take advantage of those oppor t inities to tell the citizens what he thought, and to set them right on the subject —( Hear, hear.) The doctrine put forth by the Hon. and Learned Gentleman opposite , -•xeited his astonishment, and would have excited the as tonishment of all the constitutional lawyers that ever existed if they had heard it. The Hon. and Learned Gen tieman denied the right Of constituents to call their res oresentatives to account for votes given in that House. Why, the opposite doctrine was supported, not only by all .h e great constitutional lawyers, but by Mr. Pitt, Mr. Fox, and Mr. Burke, the last of whom had said, that the wildest enthusiasm would be better than the want of sym pathy between that House and the people.—(Cheers.) Hon. Members who represented patrons in the House might say, they were not bound to obey the wishes of those patrons by their votes in that Honse; but he mast say, that if an understanding upon the subject of their votes existed between them and their patron, they would be dishonest if they did not act up to it.—(Bear, hear, hear.) There were some Honourable Members, who denied the existence of any such understanding ; but then there were some men who could turn, and " turn, and turn again, and yet go on" as before.—(Loud cheers.) A Noble Lord, in another place, a patron of a borough, had said, when a question was put to him on this subject, that if he sent a Member into that House, and that Member should vote against him, he should expect that. Member, if he was an •hOnest man, to resign his seat.—(Hear, bear.) He was astonished that any gentleman should stand up, and give a solitary and disgraceful precedent to the contrary. The eyes of the public were upon the House, and it would be seen by the public that these discussions were kept up, night after night, merely for delay. The argument on the other side was, that with a fair and free House of Com mons the Monarchy and Aristocracy could not stand. If they could not stand honestly they ought not to stand.— (Cheers.) lie knew well what he had said ; but the King and House of Lords were but trustees for the people, and were paid for doing the business of the people. The National Debt, the Pension List, the Army, and Navy, in which appointments were given away from private and party motives, all arose out of the evil influence of the Aristocracy, and excited the public indignation. Every debate tended tn ire and more to open the eyes of the people.—(Hear, hear, hear.) They were aware of the motives of those who resisted the progress of the Bill ; aor could the Hon. and Learned Member for Borough bridge, with all his talents, and all his contortions, mislead them. He varied his style, " from grave to gay, from lively to severe," or, in the words of another poet, "'Twas sad by fits, by starts 'twas wild."—(Laughter.) But all in vain, for the nation saw how the boroughmongers were weeping and wailing and gnashing their teeth at the woe ful prospect before them.—(Cheers and laughter.) They were mingling their tears with the waters of Babylon, but excited no compassion out of doors; for, in the words of Lord Chatham, " the people will perish in this glorious struggle, rather than abate one iota of the Constitution." —(llear.) The state of the country, until the late change, was appalling: it might be said to be on the eve of a re volution, but it was saved by a popular Sovereign and an honest Ministry, whir brought forward this (by no means sweeping in its provisions) as the best method of restoring confidence and re-est ablishing the Constitution.—(Cheers.) lie (Mr. Alderman Waithman) had been quite sorry to see the desperate condition to which the Right Hon. Ba ronet had been reduced last night ; he had absolutely found himself in the melancholy plight of being the only I wither at his own stale joke. That he laughed at his own joke. was not perhaps so new ; but that he should be the only laugher on this occasion was to be accounted for on the score of its frequent repetition.—(Cheers.) Yet if talent could do any thing against Reform, there were no less than thirty or forty lawyers who were introduced into the House—not to represent the people, but to continue the means of carrying on their trade—to purchase seats, and to obtain places. In the House, and out of the House, he would do his duty by contributing all in his power to the passing of the Bull, and to the removal of trifling ficulties so easily seized on the other side. He would maintain his post, division after division, as long as health and strength permitted, in order that the great objects of the measure might not be defeated by a factious Opposi tion.—(Cheers. ) Mr. SADLER denied that any promise or pledge bad ever been exacted from hint ; even his opinion had not been previously asked in order to entitle him to his seat in Parliament. Supposing, however, he had been re quired to state how he intended to vote on the Refortn Bill, would it not be much better that a man should bow down his conscience before a high-minded and single hearted in dividual, than before ten thousand tradesmen and artificers. crime of the sale of seats, but, on reading Oldfielirs —(Che ers .) A great d ea l h a d b ee n said about the heinou s History of Boroughs," he saw that no longer ago than 1812 a Noble Duke (with whom the Noble Lord might be acquainted) had sold Camelford for 32.,000/.—(llear.) Surely it would have been but fair, now that the place was to be disfranchised, if the Noble Duke, imitating Judas (to whom the factious Opposition, as it was called, had been likened), hail thrown down the thirty pieces. It would be very well for a West India Proprietor to vapour on the inhumanity of slavery, and on the impossibility of grantin g compensation, just after he had sold his own es tate.--(Hear, hear.) The value of the boroughs retained would be enhanced by the diafr.nchisernent of so many ; it, therefore, became doubly imperative upon Ministers to be just in their selection, lest their conduct should be liable to the imputation that they had favoured their friends at ow ne qua 4. s4 bihn h o li e, :aredsdte.9lulg:ettidPo:vii':oeescv.vnynetteacjil himself ogur re saet, the expence of their enemies. When the franchise was n) d e same given only to ten-pound househol lersi, would the Noble Lord venture to assert that the lower and more industrious classes paid no tiles, although they were the very source of all prop e rty, and were entitled to no representatives? He denied that the r esistance to the progress of the measuse was factious, or that it Wa4 illtellded to defeat it by delay ; but th e impatience of the House prevented the lion. Aleut ber from b -in. distinctly le rril. Mr. C. ANDERSON PELHAM said, that although the borough of Newtown bad not corninitted any offence, yet lie Was of opinion that it ought not to be allowed two Members when so many large towns were unrepresented. Sir R. PEEL recalled the attention of the House to the question before it, which had been lust sight of in the blaze of the Hon. Alderman's eloquence. He as well as the Noble Lord (J. Russ,ll) was a Member of the Livery of London, and it was not fair to the great body of their fellow-citiz..ns that the Hon. Alderman should make such apeeches. Ile protested as a Liveryman that lie did not Cheers front the Minist:_tial side.) i l i t k t e io s t uc o h n ly V a c i e lv c e b r e ted — to ( the principle of the Ell, but to tile and he hope 1 that tht lion: Alder- National Debt, the Pension List, the array and navv, and in short ever y topic di•cussed for the last fifty years.— eNample in older to (Hear, lwar.) These were not specimens of oratoiv which nanimous, and it affo one admired, v e° g n Ood citi;ens that their Members h L f n o ' r s • not folksy I , 't• - '4i4 in sentiment, It was a rded a specimen of what • u : irs rt eep t r u oe u sf n a t n Aa d t pv i ie t es s i.) vicinitye Thirty h( s : l t i ry o RI or h . 1 p e , I) thought that his Hon. Friend (Alderman Thily in tl:a y. he had the ri rends of a i p l. pcji , t e l e t a t d I f: o C t forty of 4 the principle of the Bill honourl) h e b trusted vote tl t amid they wonld again swell the minority when the Committee Commissioners, and Ir a n: cmoet:rtiiii,itig eame to the clauses which r. hated to the division of coun ties, the „i g ation of the franchise to the ten-pound householders. w h ere his Hon. Friend the Alderman had been called to accou nt fur his vote upon Appleby ; but he would venture iie( t s h i e r to assert, that if the lion. Alderman had" ermansaid at once, I will not obey your instructions, and I nil' not resign my seat, I pledged myself to Reform, but not to the details of t h e Bill," t h e L ivery of London, at the next election, would hate placed him at the h ea d o f t h e po l l.—(Cheers a nd laugr.) Colo1ie) SIBTIIORPE contended that the public were open i ng their eyes mo re and more to the objecti ona bl e na ture of the Bill. Mr. GILLON submitted to the Committee, that the s peech of the lion. and Gallant Member who hail just sat down ryas a continuation of that fruitless and vexatious delay which had been already so much complained of. The question was then put and carried, that Newtown stand part of the Schedule. • The next question was, that Orford (Suffolk) stLrel p a rt of the Schedule. - Mr. CROKER—(Hear, h ear,)—Considered the case of that borough far too important to allow it to he passed over without drawing the att ent i on of the Comm:tee to I L 34 t ittsaciimi ,/firoN ts 96 .tmo . . . sib a Lvitteft- its peculiar circumstance,. He thought that the prin ciple proposed by the Hon. Member for Montgomeryshire ought to be applied to this borough and to Aldeburgh. He admitted that neither contained the number of inha bitants which the Bill stipulated as the qual fica tion for representation ; but, as a matter of good policy, h e th oug ht it expedient to unite them so as to constitute one borough. Orford contained upwards of 1,700 inhabitants, and Aldeburgh more than 1,300 ; and the two towns were eituated within three miles of each other, being separated ouly by an arm of the sea, which at low water was for the most part dry. Besides, the ofii.ads of the Revenue and of other departments of the public business were in both towns the same persons. He thought the continuation of the repre sentation to these towns particularly expedient, in ennse quence of one important feature of the Bill, which he 'Nought had not yet been sufficiently attended to. On examining the Bill, it appeared to him that the Noble Lord bad laid a hand peculiarly heavy upon the represen tation of the agricultural districts.—(Hear.) He by no weans said that the partiality was intended, but in effect it was exceedingly injurious to the agricultural interests. —(llear, hear.) The number of the representatives to be returned by the counties south of the Trent was -0 be, by the Bill, ninety less than those counties returned at present ; whereas the counties north of that river would gain by the Bill 20 or 30 representatives. So that the preponderance of the manufacturing counties, in the representation would he increased by 110 'Members. The county of Buckingham would lose five of the present wieldier of its representatives. Devonshire, which at pre sent returned 24 Members, would, under the Bill, send but 16. Darsetehire would have its representation re duced from 18 to 8 Members; Kent, from 16 to about 12; Lincoln, from 10 to 9 ; Hampshire, from 24 to 13 ; Northamptonshire, from 7 to 4 ; Somersetshire, from 14 to 9 ; Surrey, from 12 to 5 ; Sussex, from 26 to 11 ; Suffolk. from 14 to 5 ; and Wilts, from 22 to 13. Whilst this substracred ninety Member. from the southern counties, he found that the northern counties gained con siderably, as the following statement (which he would read) would show :—Staffordshire, having at present 8 ' representatives, would have 9 ; Warwick would have 6, instead of 4 the present number ; Durham- would have 7, instead of 2 ; Cheshire 5, instead of 2 (he begged the Committee to bear in mind, that he spoke only of the borough representation in the several counties) ; York shire, having now 28 Members, would retain that number without augmentation. Now, he mentioned these par ticulars to show, that the fu 1 tide of the measure was set northwards. But, while the representation was thus carried from the southern to the northern counties, the increase of the representation in the oneand its diminution in the other were unaccompanied with a corressonding in crease and diminution of their population. He was desirous that it should be clearly understood that iu advocating Orford, his object was, not to support that borough itse.t, but to defend the landed interest.—(Hear ) He would compare the population of two or three of the counties with the alteration in their representation, to show that the changes were altogether in favour of the manufac turing counties. According to the census of 1821, the county of Suffolk contained 270,000 inhabitants, and re turned t i Parliament 14 Members for boroughs. Of those Members every one was connected with the land. But nosy the lauded interest of that great county was to be deprived of nine Members, retaining only five Membeis for the boroughs of Bury St. Edmunds, and the half borough (as the Bill made it) of Sudbury. What, then, was the case of Durham ? That county was not by any means so populous as Suffolk—having, indeed, only 207,700, that is, nearly 60,000 less than the letter county—and yes, whereas Suffolk was to lose nine Members, Durham was to gain five.—(Hear, hear.) In the same way, the great, indeed he might say the metropolitan, county of Surrey--having a population of 338,900, and being one of the largest counties of England—was to be reduced in its representation from twelve to five Members; whilst, on the contrary, the county of Warwick, being inferior in population to Surrey by more than 100,000, was to have one Member more than the latter county. Now if that disproportion were accidental—were referable to ancient' prescription—or were the result of a long-continued course, it might be less objectionable. But when they were told that this B:11 was davieed for the purpose of setting the represent ition right, and of restoring it in a due propor tion to the population, he thought it tight to draw the attention of the Committee to those inconsistencies. Nor folk had a population of 344,000, and Stafford, as nearly as possible, 311,000—that is a few thousand less than the other. Under the old system of representation they re turned each eight Members. In that respect they were exactly alike. Bit the arrangement was now to be changed, so that one Member should be taken from Nor • folk, and bestowed upon Stafford, which should therefore have•two Members more than the county which always exceeded it in population, arid was before equal to it in representation.—(Hear, hear.) Although that was not a very large change, it yet served, with the other cases he had mentioned, to chew that the tide of the new repre sentation was against the agricultural counties.—(Hear. ) Sir H. I3UNBURY did not think that there could be shown any sufficient reasons fur the union of the two bo rougris (Orford and Aldeburgh). There was no close com munication, and there was very little intercourse between them. They were separated, at full tide, by a broad ex panse of sea, and at low water, by a broad expanse of mud. A great part of that expanse might sometimes he dry, but he (Sir H. B.) had many a time attempted to cross from one town to the other, and never had found the passage practicable. As to the population, they were troth declin ing fishing towns, but yet much frequented in the season fur sea bathing. In sunitner, therefore, there might be found a very respectable and numerous constituency, which he feared would be reduced to a very small one at an elec• tion in winter time.—( A taught.) The Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Croker) had said that the boroughs of Suffolk were necessary to repro-cut the apiculturel in terests of that county. But he (Sir H. B.) believed that the Members for the boroughs of Ipswich and Sudbury had never been persons connected with tie landed interest. —(Year, hear. ) As to Aldeburgh, he could not say whether its representatives had ever been other than per sons connected with manufactures or commerce. To show that the people themselves did rot set touch value upon the representation which those boroughs afforded them, it was sufficient to say, that he had presented a petition from the borough now under discussion, praying that the present Reform Bill might be passed by that House.—(Chcers.) Mr. CROKER would not insist that those boroughs should I e united. Lord John RUSSELL (lid not see any good grounds w: erefore those two boroughs should be united. The arguments of the /tight lion. Genileman opposite (Air. Croker) took rather a partial view of the counties, which he had set one against another, than a general and compre hensive view of the representation of the whole nation.— ( Hear, hear.) 'With regird to the representation of the agricultural districts, the flight lion. Gentleman, in l' argument, had entirely overlooked the additional which were given to the counties ; anri i - nis fact also— that in counties • where there ';ere large manufa c turing towns, the m inufacturee: were deprived of their prepen before posses-rd in the c o u n ty elec dtieurnavnet, ei cis si. t 4 f l e c e i l l io . l Y freeholders in those towns which were to re ceive Members were precluded by the Bill horn voting for the county Meruliers.—(llear.) The Ili, ht Hon. Gently man opposite appeared to contend tat the small boroughs were generally represented by persons connected with the agricultural interest, and therefore gave the means of a virtual representation to that body. Now such an argu ment could scarcely be consistent with the objection, which was founded upon the notion that the disfranchise ment of those boroughs would leave the commercial inte rests without the opportunity of obtaining a sufficient number of seats in Pardatnent. An Hots. Alintscit who had represented both place., was enabled to inform the Home that thy were within three miles of each other, and that Vie communications might be kept up at all states of the tile. Alter a few words from Mr. CROKEIt, the question was put and carried. The next was Petersfield, upon whi 'h Colonel JOLLIFFE adiressed a few obsery .tions to the House, almost the whole of which were inaudible. He was understood to propose that it he ma disfranchised, but that the right of election he extended so as to include the whole of the parish of Beriton. He contended, that if thrown into Betiton, it would serve to deprive the present patron of all power whatever. Lord JOHN RUSSELL was coot klly difficult to be heard, but was understood to say he could not assent to any such proposition. Mr. GOULBURN observed, that if the 111ayor made a mistake, it was no reason why the electors should .ulcer. Mr. CARTER opposed the proposition for preserving the franchise to Petersfield. The questio❑ on Ntersfield was then put, and agreed to. The next was Plympton. Mr. HUN I' hoped that the House would then adjourn, it being past twelve c'clock.—(Cries of " No, no.") ll had understood it to have been arranged that they shoul“ adjourn at twelve o'clock. Lird ALTHORP did certainly not pledge himself to any such arrangement; hut, on the emtrary, choeght thty ought to go on to one o'clock atleast. Sir C.WETHERELL thought it was rather too tutu h .TIVROLLITI"eI Vol3fr t continue ever y day from five in the ahrtnorin till one the following morning. Lord V ALLETORT then proceeded to discuss the ques tion of the disfranchisement of Plympton. He said it must he in the recollection of the House, that yesterday the. Member for that borough presentel a petition from the electors, and to that he hoped Hon. Members would tura their attention. The claims of the borough stood exactly vi d on the same grounds with those of Appleby; it touche I two parishes; but upon other grounds it ought not to liar been included in schedule A. It contained 130 brn•poun 1 !muses; ten Magistrates were resident within the parishes, and they yielded to the revenue, in the form of assesse ! lt,.taxesse observationsupta vrds of l 0/ per front any annum. pe ial desire l He to d se i d e j ot ; mak mp to preserved, but for the purpose of rend-ring apparent th absurd character of the B:11. He could not sit down without sa) ing one word as to the manner in which th t Press thought proper to take up this question.—(Hear.) The sprit in which this was done was pretty well shown by the following extract from the Times :—" Lord Al tliorp, if he be the leader of the House of Commons, (night to lead, nut merely the proceedings of the house, but the sentiments and judgments of the majority. His Lordship ought, therefore, to keep up a more lively spirit in his c imp, by not being satisfied with doll defensive war: he ought to carry the fight into the adverse quarters. He might never to repulse the boroughmonger crew, without attacking them in turn. Why not meet at ten o'clock in tie morning? Why not force the disfranchisement of no mination boroughs in the lump, instead of strangling the reptiles by the tedi :us and troublesome process of succes sion ? The majority, if he will but blood them a little, by closing instead of always skirmishing, are with him to any constitutional extent he pleaseC The coantry is with him,—the Press is with hint,—what Goes his Lordship f ear ?"—(Th e reading of this paragraph was accompanied with loud cheers from the Opposition. ) Sir C. WETHERELL said, that after the specimen which hail just been read by the Noble Lord, his only cut prise was that the Ministers did not have a levy en masse; especial:) , after the experience they must have learned in the case of one of the Members for the city, where, because that lion. Gentleman thought proper tti think that evidence ought to be heard, he was arraigned bef,re a most unconstitutional tribunal.—(Cress.) lie really thought that after such an instance, the Noble Lord could not do better than adopt the suggestion of his friead of the Press, and have the whole schedule carried at once. —(Cheers from the Opposition.) ~ r •~ Mr. HUME was of the same opinion; and, therefore, begged to propose that they should add the remaining boroughs in schedule A to Plympton at once.—(A laugh and cheers.) Sir G. CLERK thought that it would be at least he coining in the Noble Lord to answer the statement of his. Noble Friend (Lord Valletort.) A MEaIBEK was not the least surprised that no answer was given to that Noble Lord, for the Noble Lord had himself stated that the case of Plympton was similar to that of Appleby ; and as the later c Ise had been answered over and over again, there was no necessity for reiterating the same arguments.—(Hear, hear.) Ti.e N.ible Lord (Valletort) appeared to be afraid of the power i f the Press ; hut how had the Press gained the power it pos sessed ? It was because the public did not look with con fidence at that House.—(Hear, hear.) Let the Reform Bill paw, and i‘would be found that much of the power of the Press woultrcease.—(Cheers.) Lord J. RUSSELL otoerved, that the princip/e upon which they had proceeded as yet did nut open the door to the arguments Of the Nuhle Lord in favour of Plympton. Mr. ROSS thought that Plympton had a perfect right to call on the Noldr Lord to remove it to schedule B. Mr. CROKER wished to ask why, as two parishes were inc'uded in the borough of :Walton, they were not also to be inclu•led in the borough of Plympton. Mr. STANLEY said that the question of the Right Hon. Gentleman put him in mind of the observation of Fluellen, " There is a river in Macedon, and there is, moreover, a river at Monmouth—it is called Wye at Mon ►nnuth."—(A laugh.) The cases of the boroughs of Malton and Plympton were 'LA at all parallel. Colonel SII3TIIOIIPE complained that the interesting debates in the Reform Committee were not properly given in the public Press.—( Hear.) The fact was, that the Press was corrupt—it was bought and paid fur by the Government.—(Cheers from the Opposition.) What the Ministers and their " follower►► up" said was given in detail, while all that was said on the other side was cur tail, d, misrepresented, misinterpreted, and (he believed, in his conscience, by the advice of the Mini-ters) suppressed from the rssblic by the most nefarious practices.—(Cheers from the Opposition.) The questi ,, n that Plympton stand part of schedule A was then agreed to. The liouseresumed, and the Chairman reported progress. QUEEN'S DOWER. Lord A LTLIORP moved the Order of the Day for the third reading of the Queen's Dower Bill. Mr. lIUME said, that in the Bill bestowing an allow ance on Prince George of Cumberland, a clause was intro duced requiring him to reside in England. He wished, therefore, to ask if the allowance or Dower for the Queen were to be continued should the Queen reside abroad ? Lord ALTEIORP Maid, that the precedents he had fol lowed in proposing this Dower were uniform front the time of the Revolution, and he could not think in this ease of departing from those precedents ; to annex a clsuse like that proposed by the Hon. Member would be derogatory to the Queen. Mr. lIUME thought that a clause in the sense of the question he had a-ked might with propriety be introduced. Lord EBRINGTON sl.ould be very sorry if any pro.. vision like that proposed by his Hen. Friend should be introduced. It would give pain in a quarter where alt the Member, looked with feelings of great satisfaction. The Bill was then read a third time and passed. Lord ALTHORP gave notice that on Monday he would move for a grant of public mosey for Public Works in Great Britain. The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at a Quarter after Two o'clock. LIVING LITERARY CIIARACTERS...-ThC series of engraved Portraits, under this designation, in the .New Monthly Magazine, will be enriched by that of IR. P. \Vann, Esq., the distinguished author of Tremaine, which, we understand, will appear in the next number of the work, On Monday evening a number of the pea santry, to the amount of several thousands, assembled on the hi 3 Sheeane, and attacked a party of the police, who were convoying a quantity of meal front We.tport, for the relief of the inland distressed districts. Serjeant-Major Anaorr, who commanded the party, drew up his men in a defensive poltion around the carts, and despatched a nit s nug.: to Westport, when a reinforcement of the 34th toot, an I a party of the 6th Dragoons, were promptly despatched to their assistance, and the convoy passed on in safety. The road was literally blocked up by the country people.,and had it not been for the judi c ious a r r angements of Serjean•-Major ABBOTT while keeping off an immense body with his handful of men, it is probable that much mischief might hive ensued.—Mayo Constitution. The following advertisement appeared lately on the cover of the New Sporting Magazine :—" Ma triniony.—A gentleman resoling in one of the principal hunting counties, of middle age, and sportsman-like manners, is desirous of uniting himself to a lady possess ing a p melon for field sports. Fortune or beauty are not the object of the adve:tiser—the former, if any, may be settled upon the lady, and as to the latter, though not an objection, it nevertheless is not api imaty object. Good humour, a small foot, and an easy set on horseback, are the principal qualifications required. As this is the adver tisement of a fox, and not a fortune, bunter, it is hoptil that no one will answer it out of i.lle curiosity. Every respect will be paid to real applications, addressed to X. Y. Z., 47, Piremoster.rovv, London, and the utmost secrecy may he relied upon. P. S. None with red hair need apply." The advertiser must have been Neddy Bray. FREAKS OF THE BOROUGH ARISTOCRACY. .....We learn that his Grace the Duke of 14a.tatuoitouriir, in imita ion of the Duke of NeWCASTLE and other worthy borough patrons, is also determined to do what he will with his own ; and has accordingly Ewa mess ages t o Di e . WILKES, a resp. , ctable coach propri*tor at Woodstock—to Mr. Par.stsa, the principal surgeon th. , re—and to Mr. Niraits, the glove-manufacturer to his MAJESTY—for bidding them or theie families from ever again entering Blenheim Park, which is open to all the other inhabitants of the town; the reason assigned being, that the three gentlemen named took a very prominent part in promoting the election of the independent candidate, Mr. BUCKING tiAm, against his Grace's son, Lord CHARLES SPENCER CHURCHILL, and his other nominee, Lord STORMONT ! Such are the steps by which some noble personages thinkit tight to maintain the 'rdignity of their oredr.' The public may, perhaps, think, that as Illenhe lo i7 . l ph hark was given by tile crown to th e Duke's anetanttor , from the funds vicei, and has been sopportedb.y p a re g present a t nt G-ace to exclude of tile country, it if]-becomes fir their loyalty, and for sup. e . bi any of his Majesty's hi stt ed the KING, a.. well as his Minis ptpeorarse,ki porting Re openly fiiri" appe aled sy to the nation to fluppor.-Huhl