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I . Arent opinions would still prevail. The commission was to make no recommendations as to a new mode, of dis tribution, but was merely to glean , statistieal t° rtnation, to be laid before Parliament, and to see whether t here was an excess or not. A s f or th e proposition that ad bee n ma d e b y an •hon. • gentleman opposite, namely, t hat the same amount should he-given to the Protestant ,' l ereymen of the- church of England as was at present al to Wed to the Presbyterian ministers in Ireland, he (Sir R. peel) wail sure that the house would agree with him that such. an allowance would be altogether inadequate. (Hear. ) 4 gein, be would ask, when was the proposed inquiry to be concluded? (Hear.) When he looked to the length of other inquiries by commission—when he looked to the cor- Aeration inquiry, and to the Irish church inquiry, he could tot, help feeling that the inquiry proposed by the noble lord You'd not be concluded for a considerable time. On re lenting to the labours of the commissioners appointed re „sPecting th e I r i s h c h urc h, h e f oun d that the inquiry hitherto had been confined to the archbishopric of Armagh, and that „ ° "IY. one 'diocese had been•inquired into in the course of ten ;ea rs. (Hear.) To what period, then, might it be ex- , r e W eted that the present inquiry would extend ? ,hat would the consequences in Ireland while this inquiry was going on? By adopting the course proposed they would Paralyse their 'own acts, and would destroy the measure , t , I leY had fr ame d l as t year. (Hear.) By that measure `"eY had ordered the protestant landlord to pay the tithes to the clergyman, and had directed that it should be a rent : 11 alr. If the course recommened by the nobl e l or d was le : d upon, the protestant landlord would be left in a state °' uncertainty as to the future conduct that would be pur foeti. He would be left in a state of uncertainty as to Wheth er or not any surplus that might be found to exist W ould be devoted' to, the payment of th e c l ergy o f th e Roman Catholic chureh. - (Hear, hear.) Would, then, adoption of such a proceeding tend to allay the dissatis action which now existed? On the contrary, would it r f iot te e d greatly to increase it ? On these grounds, there 're, he would not acquiesce in the appointment of a corn loission and therefore if he gave his vote for the previous question he was not to be supposed to approve of it. The generous and high-minded party with which t • -acted never joined in any vexatious or factiou s opposi •'°ll to th e government. (Hear, hear.) They had never 304 tied with parties opposed to them in that house for the ptrPoee of thwarting a ny measur e s of hi s M a j es ty' s ;p -rm:tient. (Hear.) They, :.had felt that it would be in- Zisistent with the conduct which they had. determined ' t Pursue to act on such and had ever .felt desire to give their support to his Majesty's government- When they found thata course was pursued consistent with the interests of the country. The maintenance of the fttablished church in Ireland was involved in the motion Wthe hon. member for Si. - Alban's. He (Sir R. Peel) hs,„ ready to discuss the question, and to state his reasons ''t the opinion that he entertained in favour of the contie nuance of the Irish church. During- the whole of his 'Peech - the hon. member for St. Alban's contended for the ° Pinion that the State shoald not recognize any established ' Nion. The hon. member certainly stated that he only f l 3 Ptied his principles to the state of the Irish church, but the opinions of the hon. gentleman were correct as re garded_ Ireland, they were also applicable to England. 'id cheers.) He (Sir R. Peel) would attempt to show e . t this was the case. He, however, would previously h'"de to two arguments that had been Used by his right °li• friend the member for Cambridge, Mr. Spring Rice, (ii.'which pl ace h e was st ill a represen t at i ve ., eA laugh. ) h 11 right hon. friend, in answer to the speech of: the right „ ( lti• gentleman the lete Secretary for the Colonies, said, in 'lesio n to the property of the Irish church,. that if '1 excess of property was an inducement• to excite petit it became the duty of the Legislature to inter el'e• The principle of fine would affect as , much cor r.uYation -property as the property of individuals. If the t leht-- how. gentleman thought it right to deal with an tbstraet principle, and had made up his mind as to the Eger of the excess of property, he should work out his i lnion to itej us t conc l us ions. Nothing in his (Sir R. thers) opinion, could be more dai-,getous than talking of don excess of property in the way , his righi 'hon. friend had He (Sir H. , Peel) could imagine the case of an in eteential person, who had funds to-such an amount as to ahcote an alarm in the minds of 'some that there was such excess of property as to be dangerous to the State. ere they in such a case to appoint a commission to in- Quire into the subject? The argument of the right hon. Z:ilitleman was just as strong in the case of the individual kit was in th a t o f a cor p orate b o d y . If property was not e e bY prescript:on—if it was not safe by law—for God's eliev e hem from any difficulties or doub on the ` l .‘,..tele r ct by at t once declaring that to be the case. ts The right gentleman (Mr. S. Rice) had alluded to the diffe -sttarrangements that had b een ma d e l ast year, w i t h d to certain sees in I re l an d, w hil e no c h ange he kind had been suggested in England. But, a fi ght might be applicable, as 'regarded Ireland, which . "',,tiCht not necessarily be applicable to England. `' k ear, hear, hear.) The established church was e "ited Church of England and Ireland, and it was A t ?ssible th at a change in arrangement m i g h t b e requ i re d i n t r i l l atter - count r y and not in the former. An inquiry . ttake place as to a change of arrangement without tra it t loo' but_ it" was an entirely different thing when it thated the g rea t ques ti on o f property . If t h ey to ld hi m t they intended to appoint a Commission tcringeire as d ia lle number of the clergy of the Church of England, the vi e : they had to perferm, and also their income, with a t 6 see whether a portion of the revenue might not be voted to other pureost s than it now was, it ceased to be a ;flitter of detail, and became a question of -right. (Hear. ) itn.,,e,V had pas s ed a Taw for reducing the number of bishops Ireland. They had retained the number 'of sees, but "4(1 reduced the number of bishops. This was a matter of nkement, and while such a change was not demanded England there were circumstances in Ireland which L l tht render it desirable. There was in that case no ab -"ttiou of property from the Irish Church, and as long the property of the Chnrch was devoted to cede-- tktal objects, with a view to an improved dis qhution, there was n o party in that house who would ','Ppose such a measure. Last year a measure was Passed for relieving dissenters from the Establish -I:l9ent in Ireland from the payment of church rates. Du „IR the present year the noble lord had found himself tiiigea to act i n t h e same way with regard to the dis rater s - in England. And what took place with respect to l i t e noble lord's proposition? When he came down with a th e asure to provid e f or th e p a y m ent of c hu rc h rate s out of e Consolidated Fund, with a view to the relief of the ilsenters, he was opposed by 140 members in that house , N 7 l 'esenting the feelings and opinions of the dissenters, ,e'.lo refused to assent to the arrangement. The house tilight pass measures intended only to apply to Ireland ; 4 e ,Y Might be anxious to afford relief to the dissenters in ; !,tand ; but it would be impossible to do so without ex ts,"lng similar demands in England. ( Hear.) He had been ,tnebted to the hon. member for St. Alban's for a cor rected copy of his speech on this subject, and he thought t' 4 4 he could not have done it a greater compliment than e had, namely, he had read it, and he co u ld assure the ~°l l. member that he very seldom read reports of sp eec h es - "Me in that house. He had, however, read the ho iotirable member's speech, as he (Sir R. Peel) was ti c : a t ,Preeent when it was delivered. He would . ehow her 41e.e principles laid down by the honourable mem as necessarily applicable to the establishment I h 4 ee t,gland as they were to Ireland. The hon. mem th_ toldthem that they were called upon to sacrifice asti principle of truth to the principle of expediency, but eiN e e g isl atore they had then nothing to do with the of truth, (No, no, and a laugh.) [Such we under- S t - 0 0d to be the observation of the right hon. baronet ; but hgefenseqnence of a noise in the gallery he was indistinctly . gr d-1 Had he (Sir R. Peel) not a ri,,e g ht an to d? con ( s Th ide e r What • , was truth in Ireland was truth in- En th e how. baronet then proceeded to read an extract from speech of the hon. gentleman, in which he contended ';lat it was unjust to compel th ose who objected to any ° I'M of religious worship to contribute to its support that ' 4 l establishments were nominally f oun d ed on the principle at truth, and that even the Spanish Inquisiti on had me ' mated in that principle.] It appearea then, said the L i ght hon. baronet, the hon. member applied this doctrine i",the Irish Church, but it was quite as applicable in Eng h,-l• The hon. gentleman said that it was degrading to a t een to be called upon to contribute towards the main- I l e o rla nce of a religion of which he disapproved, and that in lie n ' eas e ought it to be allowed. 'the adoption of such a ulieht be attended with the most objectionable tl % en -t ,„ 1 " 01 instance; he would s u pp ose the case of a b S ' cotland, who had inherit ed an estate, and Sup- Pose l e -- ` se th - re a e s attached to the religion of h i s country. sup was-another individnal who was anxious to P a 4 ,! ch se land, an d wen t to the nobleman, who sold ra vortl on of his estate, calculating on the charge that was tatidentrfyo.r the maintenance of the established religion of his What wo u ld b e th e feelings of the Presbyterian noblemanand whehaa‘thee purchaser of the land turned upon him said, " I Pay the clergymen a religion kdoption of the principle of the h i o d i roofigious scruples ? and will no longer The ease as this involved a fraud. dissent from?" WOuld put it 0 the hoe; member in such h a He (Sir R. Peel), ow ;,[nember whether those who this purchased land in'lrelandb urandenir wasd one. worthso ansuybjteheitngto, i t e legal c harge? If the are e t wae appliceble as well to the Church of Scotland and the oreli Ar England. (:). that of Ireland. He had never Prcsm3s t i h t e i° d n i 4 sa ti b l i 4 - t I, e4 rd ie the various discnssiens on the i it t been brought forward for the iettioval °co t ote d d • s ' s p•inei 1 laid down such aS had been I n th e P es• 1.1 , •, a •ne or h o z). - discussion of that question. a ppealed to the h member for Westminster whether, in the bill which 4lee, ; d brought forward for the removal of the civil disa 1-tie.s .affecting the Roman Catholics in Ireland, it was the distinctly stated that the Protestant fa,th, according to es blisi t i t.. Qct 'in of the Church of England,.was 4rra(Air. —lQ o th the esta vCl • • hymn in Ireland, and that t eestablishment was inviolabl e ? The lion: and learned member tra,s f er C onnell) had asked what right they • had to •`esta nt Property of the Catholic Church to a Pro that at e stablishme n t? He (Sir R. Peel) would reply, (slo ir , h 'he Period alluded to they had only refermed the he then established. (A laugh from Mr. O'Connell. ) ila,. ( Z e ated that th e y hail reformed the abuses of the niei self and he told the hon. and learned member that he to th t ' r weillit be ashamed of the abus es th a t t h en ex i s t e d Ca tholic church, and 11041 d be tQ reform them ; that the lion. and learned gentleman himself would never attempt to justify;" that then existed re specting,ibe i•xerciscd by the indulgence , : Popes. He (Sir:;;. that the hon. and tlu.i (' church Protestants. act the of union that learned gentleman 'ePn it ri jeired- :li; alit t c' ei: in nt the the Protestant-faitli o.l.initt continue the established reli gion of the country. - In stating the opinions Whieli he had he had only expressed formerly entertained by many members of the present government. He recollected when he had the satisfaction of actin !! with Lord-Plunket, one of the most eloquent and able advocates of the Catholic claims, and with whom he ( Sir R. Peel) then differed on, the subject, he came to the s.uge conclusion with that noble and learned lord as to the propriety of maintaining the esta blished religion in Ireland. Lord Plunket had stated that the reformed P ro t es t ant c h urc h i n I re l an d w a s not main tained for the religious instruction of all, but that it should also be richly endowed, and that the heads of it should be placed amongst the nobles of the land, and he had no hesi tation in adding that the abolition of it would be severing the bonds of union between the two countries. He thought that they should not on light grounds sanction such a principle as that - a different appropriation of the sur plus revenues of - the church was expedient; for such a principle once ,established would, he was convinced, be dangerous alike to the foundation of all religion. It would be calculated to alienate the minds of Protestants who had consented to the relaxatiOn of the remnant of . Catholic dis abilities on the strongest assurance that the removal of those disabilities would redress every grievance and restore political equality,- (Hear hear.) Were they now to tell these men who had so consented, and who now complained that the .faithful ministers of their - el - lurch were robbed by every species of combination and resiStance..(Hear), were they, he repeated, now to tell them that the revenues of the Protestant church might be severed from that church, and appropriated to the establishment of another faith, against which they protested? (Hear, hear.) Such a course of proceeding would, he contended, give a shock to Protestant feeling inireland, the consequences of which it would not be an easy matter to foretel. It would argue an indifference on the part of the legislature to all reli gion ; and in agreeing to a principle which had nothing whatever to do .with truth, but which related merely to civil policy, they . would be adopting a course that was cal culated not only to shake the foundation of all other pro perty, but to sever the links , which bound Ireland to' this country by its legislative union, almost as effectually as if they had concurred in the motion which the hon. and learned member for Dublin had on a former occasion brought forward on that subject. (The right hon. mem , ber resumed his seat amidst loud and long-continued cheering.) Mr. O'REILLY must express his regret that the ques tion had not at once been met by a direct negative. That was the course which the noble lord ought to have taken, and if the noble lord had.taken that course he Should have had his most cordial support. (Hear.) He (Mr. O'Reilly) was the advocate of civil and religious 'freedom'; and, therefore, et an honest and conscientious Roman Catholic, he never could consent to deprive the Protestant Church of any portion of the revenues which were attached to it. He considered the appropriation of the revenues of the Roman Catholic Church, at the time of the reformation, a monstrous robbery, and he hoped that they would not now sanction the perpetration of a similar robbery, under preterice.of purchasing the allegiance of the Catholics of Ireland: • The allegiance of the Catholics of Ireland -was, he could inform them, to be secured by no such Sacri fice_;._ and for, his • art he should- never wish to see the efiurch of which he was a member connected with the government. He desired the Roman Catholic Church in Ireland to remain free and independent as it was, and in this opinioo he was supported by the highest' authorities of 'th a t c h urc h. (Hear.) On his own behalf, and he might,. say on the part of the great majority of the Rpriaiot Catholics of Ireland, he must disavow the doctrines!laM down by the honourable and learned member for Dublin. It was not true, as that honourable and learned gentleman had asserted,' that the Catholics of that country entertained any conscientious ob 7 jections to the payment of those imposts which they were bound by law to bear. (Hear, hear.) Undoubtedly they had resisted the payment of tithes, but then that resistance did not arise from any conscientious objections which 'they entertained against the system, but merely from a dislike to the manner in which tithes were levied. The name of tithes had become hateful to them from them . anner of their collection ; but, although this was the case, he was. still satisfied in his own mind that the better order of Catholics would not object to pay an honest and fair computation. (Hear, hear.) He had never, whether in or out of the house, advocated the total extinction of tithes, as it was understoOd by, some parties in Ireland, nor did he wish to see them taken away from the Protestant church, although be did not belong to that. church. For his part he strongly objected against any interference with the chnrch esta-, Wished by law, and he did so because he regarded that Church as the great bulwark of Christianity in these coun tries, as, in fact, the protector of all other Christian esta blishments, particularly that to which he himself belonged. (Hear, hear.) The discreditable struggles that were con tinually going forward on the Continent of America fur nished a powerful argument in favour of a church esta blishment. The Catholic church did not require any-por tion of the endowments of the. established church, having, so long existed and flourished witheut such assistance ; and therefore he for one should not only reject but strenuously oppose any measure of the kind that might be proposed. Mr. CLAY felt the utmost reluctance at being obliged to oppose the noble lord in the course which he had taken on this occasion admitting, as he did, that he and all who thought as he did were bound to support a cabinet which the events of the last few days had so materially altered. He would not deny that the government had parted from talent; but then they had preserved that which was of far more consequence to the country, namely, their unity of purpose. (Hear, hear.) . . It was, he could assure the noble lord, with the utmost . reluctance that he took any step which was likely to cause the government embarrass ment; but, although he had a strong inclination to vote for the noble lord's amendment, he could not; after what had fallen froth the right hon. gentleman the ex-Secretary for the Colonies, and the right. hon. baronet the member for Tamworth, justify himself in taking such a course. The right hon. gentleman (Mr. Stanley) had declared that he would not under circumstances consent to the alienation of church property, 'no, not even if a Protestant was not to he found in any one parish in Ireland ; and therefore the members of that house would be guilty of a dereliction of their duty if they did not place on record the fact that .they concurred in _ the principle of a measure which they wished to see carried into effect. It had been said that the King'would not consent to the appropriation of the revenues of the church to other than ecclesiastical purposes ; but this he (Mr. Clay) did not believe, and, if any doubt had existed in his mind as to the course which he ought to take, the arguments of the right hon. baronet the member for Tamworth were conclusive with him. Not only he but others of the Tory party had taunted his Majesty's Ministers with practising something like delu sion. They had said that it was quite possible for the Government to appoint a commission without being sincere or honest in their intentions, and hence it was that it was in the highest degree important that they should affirm the present resolution. The right hon. baronet the member for Tamworth had said, that if this principle were acknow ledged as to Ireland, it would soon be extended to this country ; but he would tell the right hon. baronet, that the English people never would submit to make Ireland one vast camp, one great garrison, for' the purpose of forcing upon a reluctant people a church to which they were hostile—a church which might be said to be in many places without a congregation. But it had been asserted that the rights of church property were the same as the rights of every other description of property. To such a proposition he could not assent, and he submitted that it was a gross delusion to sa: that a clear distinction did not exist between the rights of the property of individuals and those relating to the property of the church. Could it be maintained for a single moment that a clergyman who had no duty to perform, who had no congregation,. in short, to attend to, was as much entitled to his income of 2,0001. as the owner of an absolute estate in possession had to the rent which it produced ? In his opinion the true nature of church property was that it was a fund held in trust by the' state to be applied in providing moral and religious in struction for the people, and, if this was so, could' it be . doubted that it was competent for the state to i nterfere i n its distribution ? He thought not. It had been said that,' according, to these principles, tithes could not be pro perty; but this he denied. He was favourable to a proper commutation of tithes ; but, although that was the case, he was prepared to contend that- tithes constituted a species of property with which the State had nothing whatever to do. (Hear, h ear .) It was the duty of every State to provide for the m ora l an d rel i gious education of I the people, and this was precisely what in principle now proposed to be done by this resoluti on . I t had beenvas said by Dr. Johnson that, however good a church esta ' blishment might be, it . could' only be defended on the Iground that it formed the belief of the great majority of the people; and he (Mr. Clay) was willing to admit that they were bound to enter upon the appropriation of chu rc h property to other tha n the p ur p oses to which that prop er t y was now applied with very great caution. He must sa y I that he never did like t he way, in which his hon. friend's resolution was worded; but still, as it amounted only to I nb an o a le lord sser would tionof have exercisedassertionfact,ana obfettrtuetrhd,ihscerethtiooungi,hft the • ' stead of moving the previous question , he had at once boldly assented to the right of Parli a ment to deal with the church g ord a C p , r , o m p tn elit s y sio o n f s l u r c elan has d, an heh d ad lollowed it up described. gabdythapepnooibniteinl of thetaken this course, he should have had his (M r. • support but, after what had fallen from the antagonists principle contained in the resolution, he could not avoid voting against the amendment which the noble lord proposed. It was ,the of the noble lord not to have come forward with a manly, straightforward, sincere des claratien, and if he had done so he might rest satisfied that hii Government would have insured for itself the sapport of the people, on whose support alone they could with any thing like confidence rely. • Mr. HAWES observed that the speeches which had converted the hon. gentleman the .member_ for the. Tower liaralet3 from his original purpose had produced a very dif- ,Pr"4/111 ritrent effect upon his mind, Those ..eeches furnished :.•• I ' s trong arguments as could be, used for inducing him t port the present' Ooreenaneid rather ;than throw out that which he regarded as a liberal administratimi. (f fear. ) He denied that the question to be determined was either for or against'the church. On the contrary, all they were required to do by giving their support to th; amendnient of the noble lord was to express an intention of upholding a government identified with the great measures that were now, in a more or less complete Shape, before the house. They must either be content with the present Govern ment Or submit to a more conservative administra tion ; and it was, w ith that view, although at some little sacrifice of prinCfple, that he should vote with the noble lord; and take upon himself any responsibility that his do ing - so 'might incur. But what was it they were called upon to do? Why, to pass a resolution that - "was altogether un necessary. Even if that resolution were agreed to, they would require a commission, and, as the noble lord had expressed the willingness of Government to send forth a commission, they would obtain all they wanted without coming to any decision upon the subject. Mr. BARRON should, also vote for the previous ques tion, on the supposition that the views of the government were hostile to those Of the right hon. gentleman the ex- Secretary for the Colonies. He felt strong confidence in the government; but, although he meant to support them on the present occasion; he also approved of the prin ciple which the resolution of his hon. friend laid down. Sir R. INGLIS said that the hon. member for the Tower Hamlets seemed to approve of the present adininis tration, because he thought it had preserved its unity of purpose. But could any one have heard the speeches de livered by the two noble lords opposite and. his right hon. friend, who was still one of the members for the town of Cambridge, without being - convinced that a difference of opinion did exist in the cabinet respecting church pro perty.? It was quite manifest that the noble lords had made their minds up to appropriate the revenues of the church to other than ecclesiastical purposes. The lion. member for Middlesex complained that there was great mystery in the way in which the noble lord deli vered his sentiments ; but, in his (Sir Robert Inglis's) judgment, the noble lord made a much stronger avowal of the views entertained not only by himself, but by the government with which he was connected, on this subject than accorded with his taste. It was,. he res , peated, impossible to have heard the nektiijords without being convinced that they had made up MP minds' to a different appropriation of church property to that which now existed. But what had his right hon. friend the member for Cambridge said when descanting on the result of the commission proposed to be appointed? He said that when the report of that commission was before him he should examine it with a free and unbiassed mind ; but it was not a little observable that a syllable had not escaped him which'could.pledge him to any such lengths as his noble colleagues were evidently prepared to go. Here, then, was an obvious difference of opinion entertained by the three members of the government who had spoken. He did not allude to what had fallen from the right hon. gentleman the President of the India Board, but he thought he had said enough to show that distinct opinions respect ing the appropriation of church property were held by the members of the Cabinet who had spoken that night. Two of them maintained the right of the legislature to ap propriate the revenues of the church how they pleased, while the third, his right hon. friend (Mr. Rice), de clared that he should keep his mind open—that as yet he had arrived at no conclusion as to the course he should take on this momentous question. Surely here were the elements of dissension developing them selves, notwithstanding the congratulations of the hon. member for the Tower Hamlets that nothing but unity prevailed in the cabinet. He (Sir R. Inglis), however, thought that with much more reason he might congratu late hon. members on the back benches on the prospect that was before them, of being at no very distant day called upon to sit on the Treasury benches. But, without adverting further to the honour of a connection with such a government, he would merely say that, in common with his right hon. friends (Sir Robert 'Peel and Mr. Stanley) he felt the difficulty in which he was placed as to the vote which he should give on the present occasion. Of the two propositions before the house, the previous question cer tainly was the least objectionable, and, although he should of necessity vote for it, he would, had the rules of the house allowed of his taking that course, have felt it his duty to meet the resolution of the hon. gentleman the member for St. Albans, by moving a direct negative. If this or the other house of Parliament undertook to regu late and reduce church property in Ireland, they were equally entitled to do it in England ; and, above all, the same principle which would justify regulation and reduc tion would also justify extinction. He would defy any hon. gentleman to show that the principle, once adopted, might not g o o as far as to the extinction of the established church. /Now, the question was, was the country pre pared to go to ;his extent ? (Hear, hear.) If it were com petent for Parliament'to reduce the property of the church, it was equally competent for it to annihilate or to transfer. In his opinion, as far as the vote of the House of Com mons could go to establish that principle, and entail such consequences, this motion would do so if carried. Upon the grounds he had stated, and having to choose between two evils, he should vote for the previous question." Lord PALMERSTON said it was a source of great satisfaction to him that the house were not now called upon to express an opinion upon, or even to discuss, the questions embraced in the motion of the hon. member, because it would be most painful to him at the present moment to enter upon a subject with regard to which he very strongly differed in opinion with those of his right hon. friends from whom he had, with so much pain to himself, been lately separated as official men. ( A laugh.) Although some gentlemen might laugh and talk about the love of friend- ship, he was sure there were others who could appreciate the feelings subsisting between men acting officially to gether and he knew that his right hon. friends would be lieve him when he said that their present relative position had afforded him the greatest personal pain.. ,He was, therefore, glad that the question really before them was only this, whether it was now expedient for the house to come to a decision upon the important questions in volved in the motion of the hon. member, or whether, for the reasons stated by his noble friend, they should pre fer the previous question. He must say that, in the whole course of the debate, he had not heard one argument stated to show why the latter would not be the preferable course. It had been asked what had occurred since last week, when the Government were understood to have been prepared to support the motion, that they should now move the previous question. In answer to this he appealed to the speech of his right hon. friend the Secretary for the Colo nies, and to the appointment of the commission. The circumstances to which those speeches referred had placed the question in an entirely new position. The hon. member who•brought forward the motion had said, .that if his mo tion were carried there was nothing he could propose to follow it up which he should so much prefer as that very commission. The hon. member for Middlesex had said the same. Why, then, were not those gentlemen pre pared to withdraw the motion, and adopt the course re commended by Government, instead of asking the home to decide upon facts first, and then to inquire? It would be the grossest absurdity if the house was to accede to the motion. In any case, if the house was prepared, without obtaining previous information, to deal with a question of such importance, and involving the religious feelings of a whole community, they ought at least to proceed with pe culiar caution. What was it that the motion called upon the house to avow ? Why, that the Protestant Episcopal Establishment exceeded the wants of the Irish community, and that it ought to be reduced. What would the people of Ireland say if the House of Commons had made such an answer ? Would they not expect that such a declaration should be followed up by the immediate mea sures of relief ? He was perfectly prepared to declare the principle that the property of the church could not be regarded as it had been described by the right honour able baronet the member for Tamworth, as standing upon the same footing as private property. He never could • consider that the two kinds of property . stood upon the same footing. He regarded it 'as exercising a trust, which might be altered in its conditions, if the legis lature in its wisdom should at any time see fit. In fact, that was a principle which they had already, acted upon in the measures they had passed relaing to the Irish church. He did not apprehend that although such a course had been taken with regard to Ireland, that the same would occur in England, because the state of the establishments and of the two countries were so different that it was impossi ble to argue from one to the other. The hon. member for Wexford had asked whether the Cabinet as it stood was united upon this question? He had no hesitation in saying that the present Cabinet was united upon it. Therefore, if any hon. members should be disposed to support this motion upon the supposition that any part of the govern ment required to be coerced upon this question by a vote of the house, they were entirely mistaken. He thought that sufficient had been done by the commission which had passed the•great seal, and those gentlemen who reposed confidence in the government, and were desirous of its con tinuance in office, could not, he thought, have found many grounds in the debate for voting against the previous ques tion, but might have seen much in the speech of the hon.. and learned member for Dublin to induce them to vote against the motion. - Mr. D. BROWNE said that the real question before the house Was, would they or would they not endow that religion which had existed in Ireland for the lastthree hun dred years, in spite . of every persecution ?, (Hear, hear. ) Thus was the question then actually before the house. He would not conceal it that what Ireland wanted was the re cognition of the rights of the Catholic church, and nothing short of that would pacify her. In any measure of that 'nature the Presbyterians ought to be taken into considera tion.; but, compared with the Roman Catholics, their claims were small. There were, besides, the Catholics of Ireland, a million of Catholics in the empire ; and he 1 would ask if it were possible to continue to, treat those seven millions of Catholics as a tolerated sect ? It was argued that the tithes were the property of the Protes tant church in the same sense that the landsbelonged to the landlords of that country. This, too, he denied. The Pro testant landlords got their lands in It eland subject to tithes before there were any Protestants in Ireland at all. (Loud laughter and cheers.) It was easy for ge n tl e men to laugh,, but the persona he meant were the - anceoters of 01910 FP?* ~~~ estants. r. • • ) What would the gentry of England have said if Janses-IL-had succeeded- in 'hinting. the Ca t belie church in this country ? How would they have born it ? Why, not at all. (A laugh.) He did hoPe the govern ment were now disposed to.do justice to Ireland; and lir, should have-heen glad to vote_with them against the motion if they had but declated that a part of this fund should be given to the catholic - clergy, not as a matter of favour, but of right. (Hear.) But they had not so come forward, ant he therefore felt bound by all the principles of his life te vote, for the motion. They had tried for 3QO years to put down the Roman Catholic religion by persteution, and the} had failed ; and there was now nothing for them to do but to adopt it. (Cheers.) There, was nothing now for the go vernment to do but to make the religion of . three-fourths of the people the established religion, for that was the only meausef.secarring the tranquillity of the country. • - Mr. - ELLICE thought that if the house had heard no other reason why they ought to delay the consideration of the motion before them, the speech of the hon. member who last addressed them would supply enough. The pro , .. position of the hon. member was that the funds now to arise from the reduction in the church should be devoted to such - purposes as the raising the ascendancy of a Catho -4-e Church in Ireland. (" Na," from Mr. Browne.) He understood the hon. member to say that he would not vote for government unless they were prepared to say that the religious wants of three-fourths of the population of Ireland should be provided for out of the - funds - of the church. (Hear.) If he was right, he thought that a reason why, the. house should refuse to pass the motion before it. But he agreed with the hon. gentleman that the people of- Ireland had for a long series of years laboured under great grievances, and 'that they had been Oppressed by numerous abuses almost beyond endurance; and that it•was full time that these should be made the subject of inquiry, with a view to their efficient and entire redress. Always since he had had a seat in that house he had taken a strong interest in the question now before it, having many years ago seconded a motion of the hon. member for Middlesex upon the subject. He then said that the grievances of processes for tithes and dues to the church to which the people did not belong were such as .no county in England would have endured for one year. Since he made that statement it was true that they had been giving gradual relief to Ireland, but.'. it • was impossible that the present state of the shuich could be upheld. He had at the same time stated that the course he proposed was necessary for the main tenance and strengthening-of the church itself. He ad hered to those opinions, and any measures which he should support must therefore unite the two objects of upholding the church and affording redress to the Irish people. He might have been desirous to concur with his right hon. friend (Mr. Stanley) in the views he had taken but for the difficulties which he foresaw in maintaining the church at all without some conciliation to Ireland, and without which he felt they must give up all hope of her internal tran quillity. Having, therefore, taken his' determination to stand upon the principles which had been so clearly and forcibly stated by his noble friend that night, he was com pelled, however 'painful to himself, to separate himself from his former colleagues who took a different view. But when the hon. baronet the member for Oxford talked of a difference of opinion still existing between his. noble friend and some other parties in the government upon that most important question, namely, whether parliament had or had not the right of appropriating the property of the church to whatever purpose it /night- deem desirable, he thought it necessary to declare that there was no such dif ference, in order that it might go forth to the country that the government were completely - united upon that ques tion. If this, then, were the case, he did feel. himself entitled to make a very strong appeal to the honourable member who brought forward the motion, and ask him whether he thought it expedient to press it upon the house? He would put it to the hon. gentle man whether, after the speech of the right hon. baronet, the member for Tamworth, he did not see a danger that might arise from an appeal to the Protestant feeling of this country? (Cheers.) Let him assure his hon. friend that those who had witnessed the course of previous events in this country, and who knew what the state, and strength, and depth of that Protestant feeling was (Loud cheering from the Conservative benches), he would assure his hon. friend that they who knew this must have some little feel ing of apprehension for the result of any division amongst the friends of liberal principles on subjects of this descrip tion. (Cheers.) He threw that out for the hon. gentle man's consideratien, for he believed that they had the same object in view. (Great cheering.) If the cry which he heard from the opposite side meant that he had for Isis ob ject the full and complete reformation of the Irish church he avowed it. ( Hear, hear.) He had joined the govern ment upon those principles (Hear, hear); but if it were meant to imply that he had, views tending to the destruc • tion of the church, then lie denied it. He had equally in view the support of the church and the pacification of Ire land. It was upon these principles that he stood where he was, and this policy alone he was convinced could give them the least chance of eradicating that state of things which had so long and so unhappily existed in that dis tracted country. Mr. D. BROWNE explained that his right hon. friend had mistaken him in supposing that he meant to propose that the-whole of the fund arising-to the board should be given to the Roman Catholic clergy. He never wished any Such thing ; but he really d d think that half ought to be given to them. (Laughter and cheers. ) Mr. LEFROY neat addressed the house, but was gene rally inaudible from the Confusion. that existed, He re gretted the course pursued by the . Government, and that while professing their 'attachment to principles of conserva tion in church questions they were all the time acting upon spoliative prin.iple, and exposing the church to its applica tion in all, time to come. He felt that they were now come to times when every man must make his "choice whether the country was to have the constitution and an established religion, or an infidel republic upon the principles of Tom Paine. All men must come to that choice,' and he regretted . to see a government in this country, while professing an attachment to the former, adopting a course of policy having a direct tendency to bring about • the esta blishment of the latter. The honourable • mem ber then proceeded to correct the exaggerated state ments of the mover 'as to the revenues of the Irish church, but was not distinctly audible in the par ticulars. The honourable member had stated the gross revenue of the church at 937,4561. Now he had examined the items composing the total revenue, and he undertook to prove that they did not exceed 521,4311. He would undertake to make that out to the satisfaction of the house. The first statement of the hon. member he should notice was that of the bishops' revenues, which he gave at one hundred and twenty odd thousands. He ad mitted that this had been the revenue of the bishoprics; but the hon. gentleman in stating that had forgotten to deduct the cancelled bishoprics, 'which amounted to 50,7301. (Hear, hear.) Then in the revenues cF the dean and chapter he had omitted to give them the credit they so justly took for the sum of 21,400/. which they devoted to the repair of cathedrals. The hon. member for St Al bans had, perhaps not intentionally, exaggerated the re venues of the church of Ireland by nearly one half. The true amount of those revenues did not exceed 615,0001., of which sum about 449,000/. was appropriated to the bene fices of the clergy, which were 1,456 in number, giving an average revenue to each of about 3031. per annum. He stand would this statem ent fearlessl y , and was prepared to stand He l pl e d g ed to its truth. If any honourable member dis puted in o a ma df the anbyuve and livings decorousngs did state further that six not exceed 3 00 /. , and that many of them went as low as 30/. If it were to be contended that the revenues of not a hundred mannere rd i t to let and hdoim seventy-eighto. 'few livings we re redundant, and that some parishes were cons iderably overpaid , he would assert in reply that there were as man)! which were underpaid. If it were proposed to appoint a com mission onl y to inquire into the extent s u and revenues of the different parishes he 'would not object to it; but he regretted to find that his Majesty's Govern ment had mixed up with that proposition .R principle de struetive -to the church establishment in Ireland. It was i m possible to have a satisfactory result upon a matter of this kind from a purely lay commission. - When the hon. m ember for Middlesex brought forward a similar motion in the year 1825 Mr. Canning opposed it by declaring that it wou ld be a " most barefaced infraction of the Act of Un i on ," and desired the clerk of the house to read the fifth clause of that act in support of that declaration. One word i n c onclusion in reference to the protestant population of Ireland. The hon. member for St. Albans had stated t h e m at only 600,000; but he (Mr. Lefroy) would appeal to documents before the house, documents furnished by evidence upon oath, to show that that was not half the real amount of the adherents of 'the Established Church in Ireland. • Mr. WARD rose briefly to reply. The house had hear d the question so fully discussed, that he doubted not they. ad already made up their minds upon the subject. Ile could not but allude to the observations of the noble lord opposite, who had declared that he (Mr. Ward) in his .opening speech had not advanced a single fact in sup port of his proposition. Now all he could say was, that the noble lord could not have read that speech very atten tively before he made that remark; for he roust say that all that had passed since in that house tended most triumph antly to support the arguments he had advanced. Many hon. members, amongst whom was the right hon. the late Secretary for the Colonies, had spoken upon the subject that evening, • but 'he would ask whether .they had disputed any of those arguments ? The only opposi tion they had met with . was from the hon. and learned member who h a d l ast addresse d th e - h ouse , an d w h o , he must say, had spoken in a very temperate manner. That hon. and learned member, however, had accused him (Mr. Ward) 'of having grossly exaggerated' the revenues of the Irish Church Establishment. Now, he must say, that the km. and learned member had himself erred very grossly on the other side. The statements which he (Mr; Yard) had made he had calculated upon the returns before the house, adding one-foUrth only in - consideration of 27 parishes from which no returns had been received, With r espect to, the commission which his Majesty,'t government proposed to typoiot, he regretted that the noble lord ( Al thorp) had not coupled that appointment with the recogni tion of the principle contained in the motion he (Mr. vv.) had proposed • It was with very great regret that be felt himself called upon to create a schism ill the liberal Tara- tl7at house 4 yet, upon a question in which he had al '"'' dy so deeply pledged himself to the country, he should feel that he neglected his duty if he did not press that prin ciPle to a cote. Mr. GOULIIURN, amidst cries of " Qu , stion, goes ion!7•inquired whether the noble lord wis pr pared to lay before.the house the commission which had be issued by his Majesty on this subject? Lord ALTHORP replied that be 1 al not the slight( st objection to do so. • The house then divided — For the original motion For the amendment • •Majority • —276 HOUSE' TAX BEPEAL BILL. On the motion of ALTHORP, the House Tax Repeal Bill was read a third time. p: HUGHES, in pursuance of notice, then moved the following clause; by way of rider to the bill:—" Pro vided always that all and every persons or person who were or was assessed tethe rates and duties on windows - or lights for the year ending on the fifth day of April last, shall be entitled to make or open, and keep open, free of luty, any additional number of windows and-lights in their, his, or her dwelling-house,Avarehouse, shop, or other pre mises, by reason of the same not containing six windows or lights in such dwelling-house, warehouse, shop, or other premises." Mr. HUME seconded the motion. Lord ALTHORP recommended the hon. member to ! - )ostpone the clause,until the House Tax Composition Bill zould be renewed. After a few words from Colonel Evaxs, Mr. G. F. YOUNG, and Mr. JERVIS, in support of the clause, Mr. H. HUGHES consented to postpone it until a. future occasion. The bill then passed. UNIVERSITIES ADMISSION BILL. After a short conversation the second reading of the Universities Admission Bill was postiioned till Monday next. ‘rwl CIVIL OFFICE PENSION BILL. Sir J. oitAiliAilmo;edtl;t the Civil Office Pension Bill he read a third time on Friday next. Mr. HUME gave notice that,he would then move that the bill be referred to a committee up stairs. The house adjourned at one o'clock. COURT CIRCULAR. The King gave audiences yesterday, at ,St. James's Palace to Earl Grey and M. Lichtenberg, the Hano verian Charge d'Affaires. The Princess Augusta, the Princess Sophia, the Duchess of Gloucester, and Prince George of Cain bridge, visited their Majesties yesterday. Shortly before 4 o'clock the King and Queen left town in . a carriage and four, with an escort, to Wind sor Castle. His Serene Highness the Prince Ferdinand of Saxe Coburg left Kensingion Palace'yesterday afternoon for Dover, to embark for the continent, on his return to Vienna. The Prince paid a visit on Sunday to the Princeis Augusta, - at .her residence in St. James's Palace. The Duchess of Kent, the Princess Victoria, the Princess Augusta,' and the Duchess of Gloucester, patronise the grand fete champetre on the 16th, at Chelsea, for the Royal Dispensary for Diseases of the Ear. A very numerous, meeting of members of the House of Commons was held yesterday afternoon at the Fo reign -office, between 3 and 4 o'clock (summonses had been issued). Amongst those present were Earl Grosvenor, Viscounts Sandon and Ebrington, Lords Marcus and James Stuart, the Right Hon. J. Abercrombie, Hon.- Edward Petre, Sirs Francis .Bur dett and Francis Vincent, Admiral Fleming, General Sharpe, Messrs. Whitmore, C. F. Berkeley, Lytton Bulwer, Shaw Lefevre, Bulteel, Oswald, O'Ferrall, Ewart, George Byng, Fyshe" Palmer, Ward, &c. The following members of the Administration were , pre sent :—Viscounts Althorp, Palmerston, Duncannon, and Howick, Lord John Russell, the Right Hons. Poulett Thomson, Charles Grant, Spring Rice, Ed ward Elllce, E. J. Littleton, and Robert Grant, the Solicitor-General, Messrs. Francis Baring, and Chas. Wood.. Viscount Althorp, Mr. Abercrombie. &c., addressed the members, who continued assembled dur ing an hour and a half. The Swedish, Greek, and Spanish Ministers tran sacted business yesterday at the office of the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs. The departurQ of the Mediterranean mail has been deferred till this day. --- FASHIONS FOR JUNE. (From the Lady's Magazine and Museum.) WALKING DRESS.—Drawn capote of _rOons de.taire tas. The crown is high, and rounded at top; and the front, in which three whalebones are inserted, stands up nearly perpendicular from the face. The trimming, which is of the same riband as the capote, is brought up into an immense high bow on the top of the crown, and retains two large branches of acacia ; another riband encircles the lower part of the crown, and descends at the sides to form the brides. The hair isin ringlets, very much parted on the forehead, and descends low at the sides of the face. Dress of grin de Naples, with sleeves a l'imbecille, finished at the wrist by ruffles. Canezou of cambric, with triple pointed jockeys on the shoulders, and double falling collar pointed at back; it is finished at the throat by a band of entre-deux (insertion), two rows of entre-deux go down the front of the canezon, and the jockeys are a pattes in front, the ends cross beneath the ceinture ; the cauezou is trimmed with narrow lace. The ruffles, to match, con sist merely of a band of entre-deux, with a narrow lace at each side. Brodequins the colour of the dress, white silk gloves, cambric handkerchief. SOIREE, OR CONCERT DRESS.—A dress of organdia, made to look as if open in front ; the front of the skirt is richly embroidered en tablier, and a row of very broad lace, which commences at the waist, is carried down each side of the front, and rounded off at the bottom, in' order to give the dress the appearance of being an open robe ; the lace' begins rather narrow at the waist, increases in depth as it goes down, and is diminished again at the round ing off below.. The corsage is a l' enfant (a full body) and a pelerine ; a deep pelerine embroidered, and trimmed with lace, goes round the corsage; it is square at back, rounded on the shoulders, where it is sufficiently deep as to conceal the sleeves entirely ; it is sloped off towards the centre of the front, where it becomes quite narrow. The dress is worn over a satin under-dress. The front hair is in full ringlets, falling low at the sides ; the back in two high toques, with a high braid in the centre. A light flower, with a great deal of spreading foliage, is placed at the right sides of coquei ; the branch of foliage crosses at the back, and mixes with the ringlets on the left side; a small gold band foims a knot on the upper part of the brow. Pompadour of wide gauze ribband, knotted at the neck, and fas'ened under the ceinture ; white lace gloves a fours, finished with a quilling at the top ; black satin shoes, silk stockings. (From the World of Fashion. ) MAKE AND MATERIAL OF MORNING DRESSES.— The summer fashions have just appeared to enable us to pronounce judgment, and hand them over to impatient votaries ; no material change is observable in the form of morning dresses.—Long sleeves are as large as ever, and, with muslin dresses, plaited at the wrist; the, sleeves of 1 silk redingotes are usually double sabots. Some license is allowed in the ornament which confines the gathers on the shoulders; this is sometimes divided into - three or four small points, very often a demi-circle cut en coquilles. The corsages of morning dresses are opcn at the throat, and under them appears a chemisette of worked muslin, edged round with narrow Valenciennes lace ; cuffs en suite. The skirt, if possible, wider than ever, - is double plaited, and closed at the side with bows of riband ; the belt also fastens at the side. The pelerine is of various shapes ; some are like canezous, painted before and behind ; others are cut quite square on the shoulders, and brought down in a narrow point to the waist. Collars thrown back and edged with a tulle ruche, will be very much worn in neg lege, as an addition to the pelerine. 'Muslin pelisses lined with coloured sarcenet are always in good taste for rural parties or visits in the country ; the ribands which trim them should be delicate in their hues and glace. A little scarf or colleret of bright colour gives a pretty finish to the dress. HATS AND BONNETS.-Rice ' straw is in high favour, and nothing can be more appropriate to the season The crowns are generally en eapete. For demi toilette, feathers are the fashionable ornaments ; four or five small ones placed quite negligently on one side, and underneath the brim, a little cap trimmed with a tulle ruche, and perhaps, a moos rose and bow of riband almost amidst the glossy curls of hair. A carriage hat of pou de sole Chine, green and acacia, and its green leaves ; gross de Naples ribauds en suite, A camte white, adorned with , branches of the adapted for the country ; rose colour silk glace Covered with worked muslin;' veil of British l ace , rose-colour riband, embroidero with white, to imitate lace-work. Hats and bonnets of Italian straw are worn much larger than those any other kind. The appropriate trimming Ls gauze riband and simple flowers, Straw-colon' is su much the vogue, that these flowers are often of no other tint. Paillassons are an universal, that they can no longer be called a mere fashion ; they are part and pai e 1 of every woman who visits the country, walks out neglige, or enjoys a cool drive in the Park after a fashionable early dinner. Turbans are more worn than they were last month. Tull, embroidered in gold or silver for full dress , or with white silk for demi toilette, is preferred. The esprit should rise on th e l e f t s id e . Lady F- appeared at the Opera last Satu r d a y i n a turban of Bengal silk, pals' green, white and gold. An agraffe of diamonds, and. a , golden chain attached to it, forming a coronet ;ound the head: two shade s o f rose , an d pale blue, myrtle greet, Fo ul Vt 77 PREVAILIN G C OLO URS FP,R, JUNE.--Straw co l our , Persian ikl,as‘ OURTMARTIALj ON CAPTAIN-HUGH PIGOTT, R.N.-SEVENTEENT H DAY. The `officers comprising the courtinartial on Capt. Hugh Pi - rott re-assembled as usual . on board his Majesty's ship H , oinp's, at Sheerness. The Court having been opened, the JUDGE ADVOCATE read over the twelfth and last charge :-- - " For conduct irregular and injurious to the service - , as well as inhumane to the sick, in doing away with the sick berth on board the Barham, and consequently depriving a considerable portion of her own men 'who were unwell at the same time (in or about the middle of May, 1832), of the accommodation and comforts provided for . them by the service. --In-alleging the want- of a-Biel-berth 'as a reason for refusing to receive on board - from the Hind tender, a short time previously to that period, a patient, repre sented by Mr. Read, assistant-surgeon, to require &rester care and accommodation than the means of the . Hind af forded." To substantiate the above charge Lieutenant Walker c-lied Bruncker, the engineer boy of the . Alban ; Lieut. Walker, of the Barham. ; Lieut. Wilson; of the Marines ; John M'Donald, a deserter from the Barham ; John Higgins and William Leathercolt; seamen ; and Mr. Cyrus Wakeman, clerk of the Barham,. 1 . This concluded the evidence, and the Court was ordered to be cleared. Upon being re-opened .Lieut. Walker was informed that the Court thought_that there was - no.further subject for their examination. Lieut. Walker then claimed a right he had previously reserved, of calling Mr. Gluyas- as a 'witness upon • the seventh•charge ; in place of Mr, Aykbone, who , was still unable to attend. Mr. Gluyas was then called in, but his evidence, relating only to a conversation WhiCh had taken place between him self and the officers of the Barham, relative to his exclu sion from the mess-table of that vessel, was ,declared by the Court to be inadmissible. Lieut. Walker then . stated that he had closed his case. The COURT then called upon Captain Pigott, to know when he would be prepared for his defence i to which he replied, that he would be ready the following morning, and the Court adjourned. THE MARKETS-(THIS DAY) HAY MARKETS.—. Lohd -4'36 Trusses CUMBERLAND. • 'oarset.eavy Lowland Meadow 1-lav ................E3 5 to £3 10 • , Vew Meado w Hay il 0 0 0 Useftil Old • atto Fine Upland Meadow and ttye.grass , lay 4 10 :1 15 lover Hay 4 5 5 0 Oat Straw £1 Bto £1 101 Wheat !qtaw ... 1 12 1 .4 SMITHFIELD. Coarse heavy Low[son Meadow Hay 13 0 to £3 5 NJew Meadow Day ................. ........ „ 0 0 0 0 es , ful ()Id Ditto 3 10 3 15 teme 1 pland Meadow an , t lvve.eraul-tay ..... 4 5 4 111 lover Hay (extra 0ne)...£5 0 Generally 4 it 4 15 <it Straw ...LI 10 t 9 LI 12 11Wheat , craw.... 1 i 2 1 14 11UNGERFORD. _ _ goarse Meadow Hay £3 0 to .£3,,5 N'ew 'Meadow Hay -0 Usefdl Old Ditto Fine Upland Meadow and Rye grass Hay 4 0 4 S Clovei Hay _ _ "- • Oat Straw - 1 Bto fl 10.1 Wheat Straw... 1 10 ! 13 PRICE OF, .iREA A. l'he highest price of Bread in 'the Metropolis is 850 fat 0 e Vb. Loaf. There are others who sell from 4d. to 1140. be ow that price. PRICE OF SEEDS.—June 2 .Jew English Red Clover Seed (per Cwt.) 425. sfis fine Cds. 695. - Ild Ditto Ditto.„-- _ _ .... —s. —s. One —s..-3. New Foreign Ditto. Cis Et te r, fine —s. fifis Old Ditto ............. s. 40s. fine —s. 56F. New White Clover 6s tine —g. ISs. 20s. fine .2-Js 24,-. 14s ISs fine 20 21s. —s. —s. 80.. line 8,4 s —s. —s. 78s. fine F2i, —s. 12s. fine —s. ,(per 28s. 3"s. fine :335. 36.. —s. —s. new 4135. 6445. s. —s. new 54s (Ina. —s. 48s. fine --s. Xs. 465. Ms —s. fine —s —s. —s. 0, tine C 33. —s. —s. —s. tine —s. Old Ditto Ditto lew Trefoil O 43 Ditto alb Grass English Carraway F reign Ditto Coriander --.-- St. Foin Rye Grass Pacey Ditto Linseed, for feeding Ditto, for crux h ing— Canary Seed, New 'itto Old White :Bustard Seed,.—(per Bushel)—.... —s. 10s. Ils. fine. —s. Brown Ditto I4s. 16,. fine —4. l'uruip Seeds, Itounds. —s. —s. IRs. fine 20s. Green :Anil 'Red Ditto 18s. line 21s Tres, Oid 4s. 4d. tine 4. fid. tto New ss. (Id. fine tv. R.4,•eSeed, English, fine (per Last) 461. . 0/. 42/. 40, PRICES OP HOPS —June 2. • New Kant Pockets (per cwt.) 6 Os 0: 0 , to 71. Ps. Chr•ice Eir 0; N. Os to 101. Os . East 71 0;. 01 Os. to 81. Os. Choice New S sex 12, 41. Os to 6 . los. Superfine 'biro 71 Os. 0!. 05 to 7.. lOS Far ham (fine) I/ 11s 0/ Os to 12 12, Ditto (seconds) 0. 0/ Os to I Ir. us mu). —June 2 Middling Marsh Champions Scotch Chats 2/. Os. to St. :Os. per ton. .01. Os. to 21. Os. ditto. .41 10.. to St. Os. ditto. .5/. Os. to Fl. Os. ditto. Us. to 21. its, ditto. Olt. nape t,rpwn o , i. Relined 44 0 Linseed Oil i. , nseed Oil Cake at the 'Alin, pest thousand rake, per tpn 10 U 'Wli I Et 11 A 1'1;1. ti A •• Kr, si . Flay (Os. ((d. toto4. Od. I ( lover 1 0 0 z, (Id. 5traw.....,..... 28: 414.1. to 32.. lld ritlcES Per lb. •d. rod. Per lb. 6.. tort. , otts, English —l4 0 English Horse Hides... I , i 21 . t ;440, F0reigit............. 14 1.0 Swinish Ditto ........... 21 3tl Dressing Hitie5............ 111 15 Per dozen, Ditto - — i 2 16 Calf Skins.. 56 to 4111 b. 14 21 Ditto, light .......... Ditto ...... 46 to 6 , 111 t. 17 ;2.11 ;2top Hides, 1ight..,.., 12 IS Ditto ..... 76 to 14tilb. )4 .23 u1tt0.....,—.40 to 50th 12 17 'itnall Se:Als„ Greenland 16 IS 'Vito— Mk .8 I.4rge t11tt0............. 12 16 RICE OF RAW FAT, per stone of 81b. Price of Tallow (as stated by the Tallow. Melters) ...N. sd. PRICE OE TALIA,W, fown Tallow 445. Od. Yellow Russia 444. Od. Arhite _ s. 04. Soap Ditto a Od. 'Melted Stuff*. 31s. 04. Ditto lid. COAL MAR -- Per 'Pon s. d. Bishop's 4 6 liensham Main 5 9 ly well - 7 3 0 7 WS R ed h I) 5 0 Pontop Windsor ---. 6 6 Russell's High Main 4 0 West Hartley , 0 0 Wylam Walls End Bell & Brown 6 6 W E Robson,& Co. 6 6 ,% ails End Bewicke& Co. 8 W.E. ati, 5 W all- Eno Onsthrth 7 9 Walls hod 6 6 Walls End listsi•ur 6 6 Ships arrived since ', SO A P, &c. per I liii7" -- Vellnw 50ap........:.....—.., Mb , . Dd. Mottled _ 70, lk.„ White 72,.. (1.. Graves .......................... I 6s. I kI. clood Dregs ..........—.......„. 5.q. od. K ET.—June 2. Pt•r Ton s. d. Walls End Killlugworth 17 0 Walls End N ea+ soarch—. 16 a Itto Northmnberland.. 17 0 1 li Walls End 1 erkin5.......... It: 3 elPs Primrose --- 160 Eden Main Wads End Helton —».» 19 0 W. , 11. I nd Stewart's...». 19 11 "ixon'sßutterknowl... » . 16 9 Wails End Adelaide..,.,,, If. tk, W. E South Durham-,, 14 Si Waifs Ind'i'ces )8 :3. Walls End West Hetto4 17 R 81ythe.,......—....... 14 0. -- 15 9 lan market-clan 3. Hirtlei HAMBURG MARKETS. HAMBURG, MAY 30.—BoasEN HALLX.—Strveral pur chases of Wheat for exportation have been made during the week, and on the whole there has teen more life in that article than for some time previelisly. For other de scriptions of Grain the lifeless state of the market conti nues. For Beans there has keen some demand, but there are scarcely auy at rrfser: c i n t h e mar k et . F rom t h e 7 th to the 24th inst., 47 cargoes of Corn passed the Sound:- 3 were bound British ports; 16 ditto Dutch ditto 11 ditto 1:11 ::ssian ditto ; 16 ditto Norwegian ditto; 1 det tinattn unknown. Rix.dollars. Wheat, Anhalt, white --.- red tZ to 70 Blacks - 7O to 74 ' Mecklenburg Holstein Lower Elbe 56 to 62 Rye, Upland 5O to 42 - Mecklenburgh 4B to, Si Holstein Barley, Anhalt 42 to .is —.- Lower Meck leElbenburgh 34 to -SS —. Oats, Mecklenburg -- Lower Elbe 24 to SO Malt, Pomeranian 3B to - , 42 Pease, Upland, yellow 45 to 70 Beans. Tares — tt, Rapeseed ....... '— to Ditto Cakes Linseed ditto The followine table shows the quantity OF Grain imported and exported during the week, as also the o.. in tity supposed to re main on hand for sale:— Lasts Imported, lasts Exported Stock on hand. Wheat ............ 520 ....... 164 .......- ...... -.7300 11Ye ••••••.R. ........ 67 , 27 MOO Barley ...... ...... D', 25 Oats. . 44 . 431 Malt .. — — — 9 O Bttkwhr.):at Peas , •P'ean. — — ..: - SO Tares -- Rapeseed — Funds were heavy to-day at the opening, but in the course of the day the market became gradually•ffitilei_ Ifi s eount, • I:yi, per cent. • - , - End or May. Aliglo- Danish Loan, three per cent. ........ ....... ..... 72 Auglo.ltussian 102 Russian Inscription, 5 per cent, 182+1 vs% Ditto, ditto, It:31 ....................... .........:... vSq Ditto, ditto, 1832.. .............................. - 9554 .. .. ..... ...... Certificates • Polish Bonds ... .... . .................. .... '.. ...... ....".. '& 7 7 1 Prussian Bonds , 1 . 83i1 . .... ll3 Austrian Rank Shares ..... . ......... ........... 1 294 Ditto Metalliques ...... .‘,..., " ,: v......... ........... .... 1 •oW Ditto 4 per Cent..„ ............ ".—"" 91% • ............ Spanish 3 per Csa, Spanish Co;l t es (A..F. Raldinianii and ons).--- : 3 Si. Ditto A per Cen t 3.i, DiktedyN, per Cents. ---••• 5l Ditto 3 per Cents. ~ t+ s l4 Portuguese Regency .../diamburg Reporter. It was said. of a stupid parson, who was always out of the way for debt except wi fa he preached o.i Sundays, th, t six d Lys. he was the seventh he was ineamirelteasible„ f rich red ion etlY ~~..