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This day were published, 11 1 six Volumes, post 3v0., with numerous Engravings, price 31. 12s. in extra boards, eELEBRATED TRIALS and REMARK ABLE CASES of CRIMINAL JURISPRUDENCE p" Ln g a popular Account of extraordinary Cases of Crime and thuenishment which have occurred during the last 400 Years, in United Ti ingaohrt, and the ccl,t of Europe, - and America, Fa I n Lord Cobham in 1418, to John Thurtell and Henry untlero, in 1824. t , Collected and Translated from the most authentic Sources in 'le English, German, and French Languages. his Work is destined to supply the place, in. the English 1 tarp, of the well-known Causes Cilebres in the Libraries of froin which the most interesting Cases have been chro "lgically intermingled with all those equally interesting from o ur own records. Pend trial of Lord Cobham commences the series ; hut, in an Chronicles, others anterior have been collected from the early s pi r - °n ieles, and a condensed View has also been given of the Fral Trials for Religious Opinions, and for Witchcraft. The b e s „gnof the Work, the first of its kind in our language, has ton.to avoid the technical prolixity of the State Trials,' and pli V ia l_ulgarity of the Newgate Calender,' and to produce a po ineJ and tasteful work, on a class of subjects which possess 0,.. in ..na teresustible claims on curiosity, a nd a never-failing intensity 1. Printed for Knight and Lacey, Paternoster-row ; and West arid Tyrrell, Dublin. r 71.1.1}4 .11 tUE "ult. STEERS'S OPODELDOC," iROM its penetrating quality, is found de- Pro cidedly su p er i or to any other external application in moting the natural circulation when inn torpid s ate, arisin g from 'cold, or other caus e s, and in g rigour t he parts affected. When pr o mptly and copiously ivin rubbed in to , !! c ures Rheumatism, Chilbl a i ns , the. Cramp, Sprains and 4 ti ruises, &c. If dissolved, and applied on the first appear nce of Chilbl ains, it prevents their breaking. The general se of this valuable Remedy has induc e d man y persons to spurious sell imitations of it, which are without effect. That uul v is genuine which hits the name "F. Newberry" en groed in'the ( lON - eminent stamp on each bottle. Price 2s. 9d. Sold by F; Newberry and SUM, at the Original Warehouse ptor Dr. - James's Powder, St. Paul% Church-yard ; but as :San) , persons Mistake the House;observe th a t it i s th e Thi r d ot Chepside, the Number 4.. Sold also by 3. Sanger, g O xfod-street 'Hawkins, • B o nd- s t re e t ; Harris, Luc!. ate-str ett ; and str:oliq, Royal EXchange. YD AD PAPERS. (No. VI.) " 'Tis True, 'tis pity and pity 'tis, 'tis true." TO THE PROPRIETORS OF EAST INDIA STOCK You are called, .on the 18th of March, to de.. cide upon not only a very important but a very novel ques tion—viz. to disapprove and censure the " Public Dispatches under certain dates, of your own Directors, and to pass a vote of thanks, and of exculpation, to the Marquis of Hastings, as far as regards the late money transactions between the Nizam and Messrs. .Palmer and Co." You , have a very serious and un pleasant duty to• discharge, and it behoves you, in this mo mentous business, to act with discrimination, not allowing yourselves to be biassed by the cl&mours of interested duals, or the influence of men in power. Before I furnish . you with a brief and general notice of-the. unhappy affair (for such it assuredly is), 1 cannot too Arrnestly impress upon your recollection that the dispatches alluded to have met with the approbation of the Board of ContrOul, a cir cumstance that must add greatly to their weight. I need not remind you,. that the Board of Controul consists of a few men of some little note and character, as for instance, Lord Liver. pool, Mr. Cunning, Mr. Peel, the Chancellor of the Exchequer,. Lord Bathurst, and a few others ; that the Board is under the able Presidency of as conscientious a man as any in the king dom, Mr. Charles W. Wynn, You now see the way before you, and it rests with your selves whether you will have the imprudence and folly to attempt to revoke the solemn acts of your own Directors, sanctioned as they are by the approbation of the Ministers of the country. I shall say nothing on tile .danger attendant on such a pre cedent, indeed, it is so obvious,. that it would be an insult to any one's understanding to offer a word. • The more difficult part of your duty, is, how you will have the ingenuity to separate the Hydrabad transaction from the public administration of the Ex-Governor-General, and what part of the blame attaches to his imprudence (it was nothing else) in tolerating for a moment the existence of a house of Agency, whose tendency was that of involving your Ally and friend the Nizam, in a boundless depth of debt and ruin. A good deal has been said and written upon the subject, but I fancy the majority of the Proprietors are about as wise as to the real merits of the case, as before a word was written or spoken. You have beer, favoured with two or three pamphlets, in which as much pains as possible has be e n taken to confound your judgments, and to make the " worst appear the better reason." You have been delighted during six separate and entire days, with an abundant overflow of speechifying —all the eloquence and talent belonging to your honourable body have been brought into play,—indeed, the vast quantities of dormant and retiring genius and erudition called forth on this occasion, has even surprised th e mos t pract i se d spea k ers of St. Stephen's Chapel. It was a glorious sight to observe the vir tuous, indignation of Mr. J. as he dwelt with a fervour and enthusiasm peculiarly his own, on the unmerited treatment of the Hydrabad people,—the profound and complacent attention given - to the speakers by the Directors themselves.anct rho flight: Mr. D. perched on high, with intense anxiety leaning on his stick, fearful of losing a word, like a fond mother, watching her children play ing, nodding at one and smiling at the other, correct ing at it were by the mere expression of countenance the actions and checking the ebullitions of the playful and talkative broad below. There was a fat getleman who stood behind the speaker'at a desk who appeared as if rivetted to the spot with intence joy, indeed so gratified did he appear at that part where Mr. J. alluded to himself in 1793. "In that Very Court" while his eye in " fine phrenzye rolling" that I apprehended he was fainting, but a comfortable wipe of the forehead restored - him, and happily the auditory did not lose the rz:nainder of this beautiful imitation of Cicero's best style. But my friends it all wilt not do, we cannot separate the business at Hydrabad from the public acts of the late Governor General, and no man more sincerely laments it than I do. I love the Marquis of Hastings and know him to be as honourable and as high mind ed a Nobleman as any that grace the British Peerage—hut I call to God to witness, were he my father, I would reprobate the weakness and favouritism be sheaved in the late atihir—we cannot slur it over, and his well earned fame, not merely dur ing his brilliant administration in India, but for half a century, is defaced by this very transaction. We cannot divide the cause and effect, and although we may turn the Court's Room from the ignoble occupation of trafficking in Tea, and elevate it into a Debating Society, and debate till Doomsday, there is no getting over the plain matter of fact, any more than there is of forcing men to believe that which they utterly anti uniformly refuse to give credence to. 1 am so satisfied of the great utility of these debates at the India House (although the last was somewhat protracted), that I propose arty should be held three times in each month ; with this proviso, that no debate should extend to more than four days, and no haranguer should occupy the Court more than four hours; it is astonishing to conceive what eloquence, what wit, and what learning, would be displayed, and how much hidden information and valuable knowleage would be brought forward it is impossible to conjecture. I have no doubt Ministers would patronize the Debating Court, and likewise the aspirants after fame; for it is clear that the Court would answer the purpose of a preparatory school for intended members of the House of Commons. The East India Directors, would, 1 have no doubt, gladly aid in furtherance of my plan, for, as it is admitted, that they know little or nothing about India afthirs, often neglect their duty, and generally make shift to mismanage ; self-interest the most powerful of all. stimulants to action, would compel them to avail themselves constantly of the abilities and knowledge of die various speechifyers—as I (lei not wish to return to India, I only request to be appointed Serjeant at Arms, to take into cus tody refractory Or noisy members. I have four subjects of debate ready cut and dried. lst—Whether it would not have been more prudent to have allowed the Burmese to have entered Bengal, and then have defeated, them : than to have gone, at a great expence, into their own sickly country and done it ? 2d— Whether Guzerat cotton, or Bengal cotton, is the cheapest to cultivate, and which is most productive of profit to the company ? iid—Whether it would.not be advisable to recommend to his Majesty's Ministers the appointment of an Ambassadur to the Court of the Shah of Persia, to watch and controul Russian in fluence ?—N.B. Should this be carried in the affirmative, and I not appointed Sergeant at Arms, I humbly recommend my self (lacking friends to do it for me), as I know the Persian language, to fill the situation of Envoy Extraordinary. 4th—Ttiat it is desirable that th e Court should be furnished • every month with an attested medical certificate, touching the health of that poor and much injured !Bodo° Prince, Bajee Rao, late Pillina of the Deccan. In the present state of the ' conduct of Lord Amherst, Mr. John, &c. &c. it is not unlikely to save the pension (100,0001. per annum,)given to that afflicted Ex-Sovereign ; they might. administer a dose of opium, by means of which lie might die against his own will, and the express wishes of the Court. Now, worthy Proprietors of Stock, whether " Gallant Of ficers or Learned Gentlemen," here is a field open for the full display of your oratorical powers, but I have a higher object than merely proposing an arena where gentlemen may gratify a little praiseworthy vanity at the expence of the patience of others ; 1 have something more noble and useful in view—it is to elicit valuable and practical information regarding our Oriental possessions, and the management of the Directors; in short, that we may correct and remedy that which is defective or bad, and applaud that little (and it is very little) which is good. It may be said here that 1 am unnecessarily harsh, and that my strictures are directed against the Directors collectively and in dividuallyi—nothing of the kind. I have.a favourite object to attain—the e stablisAment of an Oriental Radical Debating So. ciety, with periodical sittings, 41 Pro firma, instead of the pre- $ t r „...., ..,>' -,._.*--c,,,- - - \t - - r zi)• —.--. 1c% ,Or -..,„ EAST INDIA HOUSE, March 3, IHE COURT of DIRECTORS of the UNITED COME ',NY of NIERCHANTS of ENG• 'LAND TRADING to the EAsT INDIES, du hereby give Notice; That . a GENERAL COURT of the said COMPANY will . be held at their Holm , in Leftdenhall-street, on FRIDAY, the isth Instant, from Eleven o'clock in the Forenoon until ,Six in the Evening, at the desire of the order-mentioned . , P6prietors, : • " JOHN DOYLE " DOUGLAS KINNAIRD "'THOMSON HANKEY, "ALEX. NOWELL " JOHN MILLER " JAMES PATTERSON " RANDLE JACji.SON " JOHN FULLARTON " ALEX. JOHNSTON" To Ballot on the following Question, viz..= " That this Court having taKen into consideration the Papers printed in pursuance of its Order of the 3d March 4 ' last, relating to the pecuniary transactions of the House '' of Messrs. William Palmer and Co. at Hydrabad, with the Govetnntent of his Highness the Nizam, is of opinion that " there is no ground for imputing corrupt motives to the hit Governor-General of India, the Most Noble the Marquis of " Hastings, K.G.. or to any other Member of the. Bengal " verntnent ; at the same time, this Court feels called upon "to record its approval of the Political Oispatches to the 4 . 4 Bengal Government. under date the 24th May 1820, 280 " November 1921, 9th April 1923, and 21st January 1824. JOSEPH DART, Secretary, NOTICE TO ARTISTS. AL. L WORKS of PAINTING, SCULP TURE, and ARCHITECTURE, intended for the en suing EXHIBITION at the ROYAL ACADEMY, must be 'lent to SOMERSET-HOUSE on MONDAY, the 4111, or by fix o'Cloek on TUESDAY, the sth of April, after which time none can possibly be received. • • The Regulations necessary to he attended to may he seen in the Last. Year's Catalogue, or may be obtained by appli cation at the Royal Academy. HENRY HOWARD, R.A. Sec. BRlnsu INSTITUTION. PALL-MALL THE GALLERY for the EXHIBITION And SILE of the WORKS of MODERN ARTISTS IS OPEN DAILY fron► Ten in the Morning until Five in the Evening, By Order, Keeper. Admis-ion is.—Catalogne Is. The Subs cr ib ers to th e Pri n t from Mr. West's Picttne of Strionr Healing the Sick in the Temple," who have (1 1 , - „,, a4 "idy teceiv,d their Impressions, nrq receive them tl B,:.'!Yment the Remaindet of their Sithicriptions, at It Institution daily. ° UNTY FIRE OFFICE, AND PitOVIDENT LIFE OFFICE, REGENT - STREET, LONDON'. PRESIDENT AND TRUSTEES. The DUKE of RuTLAND • . MARQUESS of NORTHAMPTON RAitt_ a-itchy LORI) BRAYBROOKE - LORD KING, tscc. &c. DIRECTORS. 3 •'l'. Barber Beaumont, Esq. Hon. Thos. Parker Francis Const,.Esq. Sir Henry Pyun Sir John Doyle, Bart. • Lieut. Col. Samwell Sir George Duckett, Bart. James Sedgwick, Esq. Sir John Eustace Walter Strickland, Esq. Sir John Harrington, Bart. Sir W. E. Welby, Batt. !Sir S. B.•Moi land, Bart. M.P. Sir Robert Wilson, M.P. &c. Sic. &c. CAPITAL, A MILLION STERLING and upwards The ii6ifr;iarediß•itled amougst.those wlit; now insure, AS well as the original Members, in just pi , oportion to their respective Payments. In the FIRE-OFFICE, .RETURNS, during . the last Eleven Years, to the amount of L 47,000, have been paid to alt Per sons wh o have confirmed insured Seven Years; upon Annu a ,* weil as Septennial Policies, and whethek they have been ~I :titferer.. or otherwise. • lit the LIFE OFFICE, BONUSES of Xl3 Ss. and £?G 125. Per cent, bar e been divided durine, the last Fourteen Years ; and other very peculiar Advantages arc afforded. r 1 r f 4A' 4.0 td /r dr:a 2 P a "6 THURSDAY EVENING, MARCH sent hum-drum occasional Courts got up by only some half dozen Proprietors, whose zeal in the service of the general body throws too much responsibility and labour on the shoulders of a select few : it is really unkind in the 'great mays of the Pro prietors thus to keep aloof and cruelly thrust forward the will ing but overworked few. In questions of direct oriental policy great good must result to the community by the united services of half a hundred in stead of only half a dozen Proprietors. True it is that many of the Directors are Anglo-Indians, and have been some few years or months in India, but, still they are Directors, and that word in our Dictionary signifies corruption and incapacity.— However I am disposed„.notwitlistanding the sneers of my com patriots who accuse me ofbeing a luke-warm Reformer toallow some little share of probity, talent and knowledge to those Di.: rectors who have served in India, far instance Mr. Bibb, formerly of Bengal ; Mr. Thornhill, do. do.-; %'lr. Edmonstone, do. do. ; CoL Bailie, do. do. ; Mr. Ravenshaw, forinerlyof Madras ; Mr. Plowden, do. clo.; Mr. Money, formerly of Bombay ; Mr. Morris, du. do. ; Mr. Soone, do. do.; Mr. Majoribanks; Mr. Clarke; Hon. H. Lindsay; Mr. Loch; Mr. Prescott; the .last five Gentlemen having visited and resided in various parts as Commanders of the Conipaoy's regular Indiamen, I would wish to allew some credit atheie 'Gentlemen, but my coadja tori 'object to it, for they say " be they what they may, they are still East India Directors,*and that is enough for us." My friends of the intended Debating Society, cavil at the term Radical, I have given them the authority of Shakspeare who, I believe, says. " Diseases desperate grown by desperate' medicines are cured," why not then, in acknowledged Radical defects, have Radicals to remedy them ? I have now done my duty, and have recommended a certain cure for all the evils under which unhappy and oppressed Hin dostan groans ; and, whether they originate at Chawringee, in Cannon-row, or Leadenhall-street, our specific shall reach them all, and millions yet unborn, black and white, shell reve rence and glory in the Oriental Radical Debating Society. The present generation will hail it as the Salvation of India. • One obsetration more and I have done. We are told by the Ancients that statues were erected not more in honour of the dead than as incentive to the living. I observed the other day a spare, niche or two in our debating room ; now, as statues are stimulants to noble actions, and the cruel practice of hanging people by the neck until they are dead, opposite Newgate, is nothing more than an example or warning to others, I propose that the celebrated blue book, that little mountain of a volume, the Hydrabad Reminiscences, be placed in one of the niches, and underneath be written—" By me warning take," a friendly hint to future public servants not to allow their friends and de pendants to dabble in illegal money transactions with unprin- cipled Ministers, dissipated Princes, or needy and intriguing Courtiers. Now, my friends, Proprietors of Stock, male and female, or, in modern parlance, ladies and gentlemen, give an honest vote when . you come to the ballot ; allow not a fraction of weight to what has been said about Chundoo Loll ; for, be lieve me, there is not a Native' Minister in India • whom. an European Agent could not, by a bribe of two lakbs of rupees, prevail on to do and say any think. Ask yourselves why the Loan to the Nizam was not brought openly into the Money Market at Calcutta; and I will tell you that the cash might have been procured at U. per cent., put it to your hearts whether the firm anti conscientious opposition mani fested by Mr. Adam and Mr. Stuart to the transaction does not deserve your warm approbation'? •, Enquire among your selves whether there was not solid grounds for the opposition of these old and eminent servants of the State ? Enquire among yourselves whether Sir C. Metcalfe has not most honourably and zealously done his duty in suppressing the evil, and expos ing the movements by "which it was. Conducted ? Put yourself in the situation of Governor-General, and would you think it proper to allow your relative possessing your con fidence, and by the natives supposed to possess a part of your power and influence, to proceed to a corrupt Native Court to enter into loan jobbing, at the sametime forbidding and pre cluding competition with any other ImritcanaprßeAnT i.. o44 uitue,,Lotay. ag Anil done all in his power to crush them ? Ask, if Messrs. Palmer at this very period were not lending money to individuals at 9 per cent Ask yourselves these questions, and if you have had the temerity to undertake the perusal of the flail Blue Book, many others, and your voice must be raised against the proceedings at Hydrabad, you must support the amendment, if you du not, you abandon India. • I am, Ladies and Gentlemen, Your obedient Servant, _ S: LA DAR. TURNPIKE ROADS.---(IIANTS AND SUSSEX.] FOR. THE SUN. Mit. EnlTort. r --11) Ow present ramt l for making new TostsirsliE ROADS, in all directions, it seems necessary to call the attention of the Inhabitants of Alresford, Alton, and the Parishes bordering on the old Road from Petersfield up stonarhill towards those Places; and of all persons travel ling from the south of Snglatal through Petersfield towards the North of England, to the following Statement : From Petersfield there is an old much-used, and very useful Road, by the Rushes over Stonarhill, the Barnet, &c. to Al resford and Alton, which leads direct towards Oxford, Chel tenham, Newbury, Windsor, &c. and the North of England. This old Turnpike Road was made by authority of an Act of Parliament. about 50 years ago, with money borrowed, and lent on the faith of its being guaranteed by that Act of Par liament, and a Debt of 1,800/. is still remaining due to the Creditors who lent the money—the Tolls received at the Rushes Turnpike Gate, near Petersfield, have furnished the means of repair to that old Road, and have been the only security to the Creditors for the payment of interest and principal money. A Bill is now before Parliament to make a new Turnpike Road from Petersfield to Winchester,- and the said Act is in tended to authorise the putting up a Gate near and parallel to the aforesaid Rushes Gate, so as to take away -a considerable part of the Tolls (hitherto received at the Rushes Gate), to be applied to the new intended Winchester Turnpike Road, which must operate to the very great injury of the said old Road, and of the Creditors on it; an injury and injustice which the public, in general l do not seem to be aware of ! It is gene rally supposed that the Winchester Road can never pay interest to the lenders of the Money on that )(pad, or keep it in repair : yet, if that Road shall be made, it willnearly ruin the old Road, by an abduction of a considerable part of its Tolls, and it will also greatly lessen the security to the Creditors, who had hither to supposed that their debts were well secured, and guaranteed by Parliament—was it not for this abduction of Tolls from the old Road, no one would have a right to complain, but surely this abduction will not be tamely submitted to, without some rea sonable legal resistance. It has been stated that the Winchester Road will open a communication front the south to the north of England, but it is presumed that that Communication is better made by the old road up Stonarhill, which is at this time in a course of con siderable improvement—Or, If the making a better communication to the North of Eng land is the real object of the promoters of the new Road, a map of the country will shew that a more direct line of road may be made from Brighton, Chichester, and the South of England to Oxford, Cheltenham, and the North of England by Midluirst, Liphook, across Woolmer Forest- to Alton, whence there is already a road to Basingstoke, &c. which at once opens a direct road to the North and North-west of Eng land. This last-mentioned road will certainly be attempted, if circumstances should render it necessary —this last-mentioned road was sometime since proposed, the expence estimated, the line measured, and the plans made, &c. &c. &e. and it is be lieved that they can be easily adverted to. A new Turnpike Road from Farnham to Petersfield has been also mentioned, and steps have been taken to carry that scheme into execution. If it should be attempted in the next Sessions of Parliament, it may be worth while for those interested in the preservation of the old road from Petersfield up Stonarhill, and the inhabitants of Petersfield, Alton, &c. to turn their thoughts towards the subject of the said road from Midhurst to Lip hook across the forest, to Alton, &c.—Money to make such a be had, and S tonar hill avoid road can be had at a short notice, and by suc h a roa d cross i ng the projected road from Fax...la intentions of p art i es are snore in to Peter s fi e ld, a s h orter roa d ed from e l b o A u p t l e t d m o If this statement shou ld induce those who are-inte r est e d in . n or t e o o P f e t t h ers i s fi w el h d e n m t a h y e . the . old road to see td, .and duly consider their true interests, (having,-at the same time, a due regard to a paramount duty, the general good of the Public), it will answer the object and purpose of the writer. A. B. 11l arch 14, 1825. 7, 1825. - u PARLIAMENT, HOUSE OF LORDS, MARCH 10. Dr. ParwmoltE brought a message from the Commons, requesting a copy of the evidence in Green's Divorce Bill, to which the LORD CHANCELLOR replied that their Lordships would send an answer by a messenger of their own. Mr. Bitoomeit, from the Commons, brought up the Assess ed Taxes Bill, which was read a first time, as were several pri vate bills, brought up by Mr. PITT and others. Earl GROSVENOR presented a petition from John Gale Jones, against cruelty to animals, particularly bears, badgers; and other beasts, kept for sport within the purlieus of their Lordships' house. The Noble Earl introduced the petition by some observations, in which he classed the acts of cruelty under three heads. The first class_ consisted of acts of cruelty com mitted in - the public streets, roads, &e. To the second class belonged the atrocities committed on animals, such as those described in the petition, which were kept sol e ly for the pur pose of cruelty. The third class comprehended the cases in which the cruelty was only incidental, such as fox-hunting, hare-hunting, &.c. These sports were defended as the fa vourite amusements of country gentlemen, who; however, he thought might easily find a better and more useful way of employing their time. With regard. to the first class, their Lordships had already legislated, and he did not think they could legislate on the second, without legislating on the third. —Adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. An account was presented from the London Dock Company, showing the soul to he expended on the new works, METROPOLITAN WATER COMPANY. Alderman WOOD presented a petition from the Brewers of the Metropolis, against the Metropolitan Water Works Bill.— Referred to the Committee. The same lion. Gentlemen pre sented a petition from the Hampstead Water Works against the same Bill.—Referred to Committee. ST. KATHERIST'S DOCKS. Mr. S. WHITBREAD presented a petition from St. 80. tolph's, Aldgate, against the St. Kat er i ne ' s Do c k s Bill. .Mr. Alderman WOOD presented a petition from the inha bitants of the precincts of St. Katherine's, against the St. Ka therine's Dock P.ill.—Referred to the Committee. EQUITABLE LOAN BA NK. Mr. Alderman WOOD presented a petition from the Ward of Cripplegate against the Equitable Loan Bank Company.— Laid on the table. Mr. J. SMITH presented a petition from 900 Householders of Whitechapel, Mile End, and Stepney, in favour of the afore said Company.—Laid upon the table. Mr. S. WHITBREAD presented a petition from St. An drew's Holborn, against the Equit a bl e L oan B an k . Mr.IAMBTON presented a petition from the 'Pannell of Bermondsey in favour of the Equitable Loan Bank Company. Mr. ORD presented a similar one from the Silk Weavers in favour of the same Cot»panv.—They were laid on the table. METROPOLITAN FISH C,OIiPANY. • Alderman WOOD presented a petition from several persons connected. with the Fish Trade, against the Metropolitan Fish Company. Sir E. KNATCH BULL presented a petition from the Fishermen or Greenwich against the same Company. Mr. J. H. CALC RAFT presented a petition from the owners of fishing vessels at Deptford against the same Company. Mr. CA LCRA FT presented a petition from the Fishermen of Gravesend on the same subject. They were referred to the Committee. Mr. J. Sill ITU presented a petition from an individual named John Peacock, complaining of the conduct of the Corpo ration of Dublin in levying rates upon the inhabitants.--Ordered to lie on the table. catii ulAtt l a; Ft Ts hei lasatfa.'"'" THAMES QUAY. Col. TRENCH brought in his Bill for making a carriage road on the Bank of the Thames, from Craven-street to Black friars. _ _ . On the motion that the Bill be react a first time. Mr. CAIXRAFT declared it to be his intention to take the sense of the House again upon the second reading. PATENT BRICK COMPANY. Mr. BROCIDEN presented a petition from certain persons, praying for leave to bring in a Bill to incorporate the Patent Brick Company : —Referred to a Committee. WESTERN SHIP CANAL. 11.1 r. BENT presented a petition from Sidmouth in favour of :he Western Ship Canal. EAST LONDON RAILWAY. Sir E. HARVEY presented a petition from the East India Company in favour of the East London Railway. Mr. ELLICE presented a petition from the Householders in the Commercial and East India Docks Roads against it. —Laid on the table. CHELTENHAM THEATRE. Mr. HODSON moved for leave to bring in a Bill for li censing the theatre of Cheltenham.—Leave granted. KINGSTOWN RAILWAY. Mr. TA LBOT presented a petition from the inhabitants of Dublin in favour of the Kingstown Railway. PERUVIAN MINING COMPANY. Mr. GREENE moved the second reading of the Pasco Peru vian Mine Company Bill. Attacks, the Hon. Member said, of a very unwarrantable nature had been made upon the scheme connected with this Bill. The company had the, authority of no less a man than Humboldt for believing all they proposed to be perfectly practicable. Moreover, he denied that the House had any right to inquire into the speculations of individuals, while those speculations tended neither to private nor public dis advantage. Mr. HOPHOUSE said that, before he sat down, he thought he should make the House subscribe to a very different opinion. He did not wish to go out of his way to interfere even with gambling speculation. Individuals, while they would be con. tent to remain silent, might dupe one another upon the Stock Exchange to their hearts' content ; but it became a very diffe rent question when they appeared before the House of Com mons, and asked the House, not merely to notice, but to sanc tion what they were doing. That which he had address to the House, he stated in the discharge of his duty, and not with a view to the offence of any man ; but he would state it most fully and explicitly, and, the more, because both private and public means had been employed to intimidate him from doing so.—( H ear, hear !)—" That which 1 say," continued the Hon. Member, " I can prove; and if it were necessary I ci -_..ld de velop some details which would perhaps surprise the House a little."—(Hear, hear But .1 trust that at least—l don't wish to use a coarse expression, but I scarcely know what other term to use—l trust at least that we shall not allow ourselves to be bullied, here, into measures which we do not approve."— ( Hear !)—The pretence on which these speculating companies came before the House, was that they might have power, for the general convenience, to sue by an individual, and be sued. But this pretext was a miserable delusion ; what they really wanted was, to be seen in communication with authority ; they wanted to raise their shares in the markets, by having it understood that what they published was done with the knowledge and with the sanction of Government.--(Hear, hear !)—But he would shortly state, for the information of the House, the regular detail by which the original shareholders in companies like the present were daily putting large sums into their own pockets. The thing was done without the smallest risk, and almost without any advance of real capital. Suppose, for instance, a company projected, like the Pasco Mining Company ; that there was to be 10,000 shares of 100/. each (making a capital of one million), and that the original projectors were 50 in number. The 50 projectors agreed at once to take all the shares among themselves. Each took 200 shares, and paid a deposit of Si. on each share, so advancing, in his whole proportion, I,OOW. Now how did this operate ? Why, by management well understood on the Stock hotchange, as soon as prospectuses were issued, and people came to purchase stock, they were informed that the 51. shares had risen to 161.—(Blear, hear !)—Thus an original projector sold only 66 of his 200 shares, and got 561. over his cost price—having 134 shares to get what he could for, ,clear profit on the transaction. And this was supposing a moderate profit; in many cases the rise had not been from 1001. to 1111. (on deposit 51. to 161.), but the 100/. shares had been resold at 6001., 700/., and even as high as 1,200/.—( Hear, hear !) toeing almost immediately immense fortunes to the projectors, without the slightest risk on their part. The puff's and adver tisements by which this system was supported weie absolutely disgraceful ; so disgraceful, that he shoUld hardly expect belief from the House, if' he'did not state them in their precise terms. In the sirst prospectus issued, he found the folldwing state ment :.—". It (meaning the company) has_already secured con- t; ~~ :~ .~ 1. 4 s iSc PitcE -vvENrr,&,r. tracts for a - long term of yearefoe some valuable niitiesiseathe celebrated heights of Paseo." Now, who were theas--con tracts secured with ? Why, with an Individual of tale name of Quiros; who was an expatriated 'patriot at the very. date when that prospectus. was iesue4, the !loyalists being stahat time in_ possession of the whole territ or y - s a id t o b e conareete d for.--(Hear, hear!)—Again : the same prospectus anateeettat " all engagements for the payment of money on betntif of the company" were to be made. in such a manner.*,; ,. that the liability of the shareholde rs sh o uld not , in mi:saes, exceed tlit!t amount of the instalments remaining unpejal, on their respective shares." Why this was not-only in the ,weirs of the law, which already made every such shareholder lielsld is the extent of his whole fortune, but the Bill absolutely beeright into the House contradicted that whide regulation, and diabetes', that it should not be lawful for the company to enter iato- any contract limiting the liability of its shareholders. In the:Pro spectus, purchasers were told that they were not to he and a Bill was brought into Parliament directly makisigettein liable. Now, was not this a delusion ? People were to, buy under one presumption, and to hold under another. Theli an. Member then adverted to the opiiiion laid down by.;l4.llisf Justice Abbott in the case of " Joseph to Pebrer,!assikecon tended that the Pasco Company came entirely under • theepre visions of the rubble Act. In the second prospectus 13840 -by the Company, it was stated that " a contract for additional mines in the district of Pasco having been entered intasan be half of this Company since the publication of the prospectus the Directors deem it eipedient to submit to the Shareboisters the following general outline of their new engageniensa:—lt comprises upwards of 360 mines, each mine occupying.:SeStir face of about 1,800 square yards." Now he. would call r4e at tendon of the House to a small book, which was publiAlsed by order of the Viceroy of Lima in 1796, in which was givens list of the silver mines then worked. These were stated at 78 s and the number not worked was 21 ; making in the . s vilidle .99 mines in the district, and these belon ge d t o seventy-tio owners ; but in the face of this, the Directors - stated; that they had contracts for the working of upwards of 360, which far exceeded the whole number given in the official 'account as in the whole province of Tannin According to the account quoted from Humboldt, the mines of Pasco produced in the Year-7196 1 '27,514 marks of silver ; and in the year 1801, he gave their produce at 237,435 marks; and he (Mr. H.) supposed it would not be estimated at a greater amount If worked in the present day. Yet surely that must have been a very small amount, if there were so many mines at work as the company would have the public believe. The directors, however, to meet this ob jection, quoted in their pamphlet an extract from the Lima Gazette of 1821, in which allusion is made to 3,000 mines in. the district. Mr. Caldcleugh stated, that there were 5,000 in. habitants in the district ; so that it would appear that there was just one man and a quarter to each mine. —(Hear!)—He knew the object with which those things were stated, and what was meant when all these mines were spoken of, to create an im pression that there were so many rich mines in existence. Ile admitted there mi g ht b e a great num b er o f excavat i ons or shafts communicating with the mines, but he utterly denied that there were so many mines in existence in that country.. The iotAler was, that instead of 360, they did not mention 365, which would just make a mine for every day in the year. It was next stated, that there were in the vicinity of the .thines " fields approp r i a t e d to t h e growth of barley." lases that p ro ' bable ? was it prob a bl e th at b ar l ey would grow at an -eleva-- tion of thirteen thousand feet above the level of the sea, -Where it was always freezing ? How was it, then, that all for mer miners employed in the count r y w ere ent i re l y depending for support on the maize sent to theist from Lima ? The state ment was on the face of it erroneous. But the matter was set at rest by Mr. Calticleugh, who stated, that at an elevation much lower than that of the mines, at the height of 12,300 feet, he met with but one solitary minute The prospectus next,ent on to say, " The owner has undertaken to convey the whole of this property to the company,. either in perpetuity, or in-any other manner which the laws of Peru iniehe reenae. ee- --at, - gentleman ammeu to, Von Juan V was, had no right of (ailer ship. Neither he nor Mr. Quiros could convey any right of ownership; one was an expatriated patriot, and the other an exiled royalist, whose property had been put under sequesta:etion. But it was said that this sequestration bad never been enforced; but why had it not ?—Because, in fact, the mines had never been worked since then. General San Martin was no autho rity ; for, on the contrary, he'himself had run away from the country. But let Honourable Members refer to whit . was stated by Captain Hall, and they would find a very dif ferent account of the transaction ; and it was more than probable that the Government of the country, when they came to have a settled government there, would reserve the mines for the use of the State ; and it was already intimated, that they were to be offered as a security for a loan which was about to be contracted fin- by the Peruvian Govern ment here. The Directors next talked of the coals discovered in the . neighbourhood. Humboldt never said a word of any coals being there, but he (Mr. Hobhouse) would admit That coal-mine had been recently discovered, yet it was much lower down in tire tnountairn It would require great laboureta ex tract it, and then immense labtriar to take it up to the mines. With respect to the statement of the Directors, " that the pre sent owner of this property stated that he had realized nearly 100,000 dollars per week for several successive. weeks froM one single mine;" he would observe that it was a novel proceeding to take account of the value of any thing from tile :But the fact was differently stated in the Lima Gazette, to . wliieli they so willingly referred. That described the produce 11,50,000 dollars, and that not front one, but from four mines; and Mr. Vivas' property was valued at 400,000 dollars, which ; would be beyond all propo r ti on b e l ow i ts va l ue , if i t had picitinced 100,000 dollars per week. He would admit the account given by Humboldt of the produce of those mines to he correct; and that they would yield two millions of dollars a year; but still, that would leave the company, who possessed only one tenth of them, not :more .than 2(10,000 dollars, or about 40,0001., and from that the expence of working was, to be deducted, which, when done, would leave those engaged in the speculation hardly any remuneration for their labour.. The Hon. Member, referring to his statement of a former evening, that this attempt had been made before, and without success, went on to describe the contract entered into in 1812 between Messrs. Abadia, Arismendi, Uville, and some others, with the owners of the mines, for draining and . afterwards working taiem for a certain term of years. That was followed up by the send ing out of some steam-engines from England; which, afterseve ral years, were erected. The first effects of the working Or the I engines had been hailed with transports by the Spanish iiithe rides, as calculated to produce the happiest results, which'; to I use their own words, would " deluge the country with a tor rent of silver ;" but, notwithstanding all those great expecta tions, and all the assistance given by the local authorities, the hopes entertained had never been realized.. The whole project failed ; and the parties in. this country who had engaged -in It, and sent out some machinery, could never get their contracts Gratified, and he believed the whole of the Europeans who went out to superintend and assist in the working the rairiettliecl,• except one. He next proceeded to chew, that if any parties could claim a property in these mines, it must be the creditors and representatives of Abadia, Arismendi, and the ethers: A claim of that kind had actually been'made, and their interest was bid for on more than one occasion in the market. The House might form some idea of the difficulties attending the working these mines (supposing the title of the parties,was good', when he stated, that it took 3,000 mules and 4,000 Indians to convey the two steam-engines from Calleb to Pasco. The Government at the time put all those peiSple in requisition to assist, but-that was an indulgence which, the present company could not hope for. Let the House astinsi der what was the opinion of Mr. Helms, who went out to that country by order of the Spanish Government-in 1789., And they would see the impracticability of working them byl;:uro apbeoaunst fi d e f t m y . o a n i x s t r l e a t a e g d u . e , T a h u e d distance r e from 6 d P a y a c s to o to ai accomplishwas journey up, and 13 down. The' objection founded upon the• difficulty of travelling was attempted to be met by • " A P asco Shareholder," who stated that an o ffi cer in command' of• a body of troops, performed the journey down in six days. 'That might; perhaps, he true, but it did not meet the • general' ob jection. The difficulties of the journey, and the manner in which parts of it were to be performed, were well describettin a book which he held in his hand, and to which he would, refer Hon. Members. Another difficulty with which the 'corriaiany • would have to struggle would be that of the procuring-thi'-as ' sistante of the Native Indians. These were no longer, lithked upon as slaves, arid all future operations in. that -country,..,thust ro d t: t . y fr , ee an la d bo so ur i . t hers. the labourers.l Jas it should ul i d ex b i e e° profits o f the. speculation ? •He had heard it -urged that - pain b e o wee n rca s e i:i i e a r eid e d d ot w w n o h b a 'y t an immense drawback this would be ohathe 'had derived large revenues from the working ef those mines. , He admitted she had, because GoVernment took its otstlfiftly clorlaeriansa