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my TOniet,WAIS, why he had gout out, and ,I should have no objection :that Ise-sliouldermaie Le 4!.taill, _which I think he may, perfectly, conscientiously, and honouralay.doe_ Mr. PEEL—J.. admit that, it woad he e rtuire regular to pass to the question for this night's .discussion, to which I expected this evening would be devoteit. But .I : lnnst say. that lam very far from being satisfied with the explana tion of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman,as.to theeirinci ples upon which the_peesent coalition has taken dace ; and yet a proper explanation of these ,prineiples involved ques tions of the.greatest importance, and upon the explanation given would depend the degree of confidence which could be properly placed in the. present Administration. In com menting on the conduct of the Gentlemen who now sit on the Opposition Bench, the Hon. and Learned Gentleman has adopted the same tone of sarcastic remark which cha racterised his speeches-when he himself sat ou the Opp°, sition side of the House. He has congratulated the Opposi tion on the new tone of asperity which it has acquired ; but I muse. also congratulate the promptitude and facility which he has displayed, in employing that tone of sarcasm in favour of the Ministry, which he so lately employed against them—eat least against the head of the present Mi nistry. I cannot help congratulating the Right Hon. Gentleman on the facility with. which he has fellen into the cant by which, as he himself used to say, the supporters of the old Administration were so often tainted. But it is a very grave question, whether these Gentlemen bad oat abandoned their principles in the short space of a week, and the subject ought to he treated with another temper. I need not say that I feel no personal animosity against the Hon. and Learned Gentleman. I never did entertain any such feeling towards him, nor. do I now. But lam sorry to say that our political differences are as wide as ever, if not wider ; for he certainly has not as yet been able to give me a full, satisfactory, and clear explanation of the prin ciples upon which he has contributed to form, and has joined, this coalition ; and yet a full, clear, and satisfactory account of these matters is, as every one must know, abso lutely necessary, before any one can venture to repose con fidence in the Administration, as at present constituted.— What, for example, is to be done with the question of Par liamentary Reform ?.--(Cheers.)—ls it to be brought for ward in any specific form, and supported by the new friends of the Government ; or is it to be postponed until all those shades of opinion can be blended of which I have this even ing beard for the first time?--s-(Cheers.)—That question certainly was with those Hon. Gentlemen a common bond of connection; I do not say uniting every man in its sup port, but undoubtedly including so.niany.of them; that from it a great Parliamentary. Party took their colours and derived their name.. L should have, thought that no Government -that hoped for the.support of Parliament, would have countenanced so .essential a change. in the constitution of the House as the_party to which 'allude calls for.—(Loud cheers.)—lf these opinions be not coun tenanced by the new Government, on what principles, then, I ask again, is the question of Parliamentary Reform to be discussed ?—(Cheers.)....ls it to be left as the Ca tholic Question is ?_(Cheers from the Ministerial side. ) do not say this reproachfully, for I know I concurred my self in the arrangement with respect to that Question—but I ask, will it be suffered to remain still.—(Loud cheers from the Opposition Benches.)—These questions must pro duce the elements of discord in the new Administration, unless, indeed, I am to gather, from what the Hon. and Learned Gentleman has said, that. Parliamentary Reform is also to be made an open question, though truly he was not very explicit in his statements. These, however, are points of the utmost importance. I have listened atten tively to the speech of the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, but the satisfaction I have derived from the explanations he gave, was so far from being complete, that it has, I confess, only increased my anxiety, to hear something more of the conditions on-which lie has agreed to support the new Go vernment. When I hear it stated, as one of the grounds of this union; that his Majesty was abandoned by his former servants, and that his very prerogative was_ so put in jeo pardy by their seeeesion, that my Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Canning) had no alternative but to appiy to his political op ponents for their support ;' if, for the sake of argument, I admit it to be strictly true that on that ground the coalition was formed—that "its chief, nay, its sole object, was merging every subordinate point to maintain the preroga tive of the Crown, why, - then; I ask, if that be the ground, is it not declared so at once ?—(Chia.)--Why do they not avow that to he the real reason ?--(Cheers.)—Why do they not say that they will forget the Catholic Question and Parliamentary Reform—that they findnhe prerogative of the Crown in danger, and they have rushed forward to defend it?—(Cheers.) —Why do they allow the first places in the State to continue unfilled, like empty boxes waiting for those who have engaged them.—(Cheers) ? Why, I ask again and again, do they not come down to this House, and tell us frankly what are the principles on which they have entered into this coalition ?—(Continued cheering.) Their conduct, Sir, I repeat is net satisfac tory. It is not fitting to the fair dealing and =splines, in which this country delights,— (Cheers.) It does not accord with the principles-of the Constitution for one party to unite with another, cm condition that there should be a period of probation, in' order that they may determine whether their principles of action will 'agree or not.— (Cheers.) If it be a union of parties, why is it not so publicly proclaimed? Why-is not the emergency declared that has rendered this step requisite? If difficulties have arisen, which strong and firm minds' are wonted to en counter, why are the public offices filled with fagacious Ministers? In two months—the probable period when the intended arrangements will be completed—the dangers of the time will have passed away, and with them the ne cessity of this junction Will'have ceased, if it be founded on the maintenance of thepreragative of the Crown.—(Cheers) I am anxious to see the character of party men and of the great parties in this country upheld. I should not be glad certainly to see the great Whig party in affice.—(A laugh.) They ought, I think to he excluded from power; but I should he sorry to see their eheracter, as a party, lowered and disgraced. But it will be tarnished if the principles are not made known on which the 7,tnion has been effected, and unless a satisfactory explatmeion of the reasons why that union has been delayed—(Cheers, )--unless a clear and perfect satisfaction be given on these poieta, I than apprehend that the character of this party will not for the future stand very high with the public. I ask again why is this delay? Is :t that there are on the notice hock some inconvenient entries, which the Members of that party know not, how well to evade or erase?—(Loud cheers.)--What, for example, will they do with the notice of the "Member for Bandon (Lord J. Russell), for the re peal of the Test 'and Corporation Acts? This is another important question, which I suspect will e er lay the ma terial difference that exists between the opinion of those Right Honourable Gentlemen, whom I had lately the honour to have for colleagues, and their new allies. If, after the Noble Lord has consulted with the leaders of the Protestant Dissenters, he should be prepared to move for any further concessions in their favour, I give him notice that I intend to oppose him, And that I will always do so, whether in or out of power. That, in deed, is a circumstance of little weight or consideration to me. The most cursory view of my past career will show that I have been actuated by no ardent desire of office. When i lave accepted it, it has always been a personal sacrifice to me. So fir as lam personally concerned, I ran may truly that I care not whether I return or not. I feel grateful for the confidence of the Crown ; but I am, thank God, independent of it. My principles are not changeable with ray position. I will adhere to them a through good report and throughevilreport,"---(Cheers.) _—lt is with these sentiments that I now say that the points to which I have referred--Parliaomutary Reform, and the motion, entered on the notice-book, for the Repeal of the Test and Corporation Acts...and, still more, the Catholic Question% have not been explained satisfactorily.,..(Hear.) _..j will not deny that 'I observed. myself that, fancily, there was between my late.colleagues end the Hon..Gen ttemen who have now joined,: them, on many snbjects, a dm and cordial alliance.) But Ito protest e that if I had been told, only the day before the RUM, that the Hon. Baronet (Sir F. Burdett) would have offered himself to the notice es this House the first night after, the, adjourn ment, in onlenne give his active support to a Government still divided on ti,e Catholic Question--(hear, bear,)—if, alter what I have heard the Members for Caine (Mr. Aber crombie) and for KnareshoroZ.,,gh (Mr. Tierney) say in this House, imputing all the evils of Ireland to the existence of divided Councils in the Government of that country, which, they contended, prevented any firm or consist ent course of policy from being pursued towards it; —if I had been told that now, or a few months hence even, they would be prepared to give their sanction to the support of an Administration still divided on the. Catholic Question, I could not then have believed it possible. — (Cheers.) —On the necessity of putting an end ,t.o that system of a divided Government, the Resolution of the ll.m. Baronet for the Relief of the Catholics was founded. Let that House now look-at the sincerity with which these principles had been acted upon. In the new Adneinittra tam, it is true, there is UG difference between the Home and Foreign Secretaries of State ; but we Lave a Prime Wit:Lister and a Lord Chancellor oppoeed to each other, enl very recently in conflict on this very question.—(Cheers. ) —Hitherto we have had the two Law Officers of this country united in opittioe. The present Administration 'nee been the first to disturb this agreement, and, by trans sierring the chief office to an advoCate of the' Catholic Claims, to create a disunion where before it never existed., --(Hear, hear.)—Should his 3lajeity's - Attorney and foli:itor-GenerOciow called on to advise the Crown on any measure touching the Catholic Association, suppose it ! should continue, in what a situation will they be placed ? It is a fact—one of the curious events of the day—that these two Learned Gentlemen Nave both presented them selves as Candidates to Represent the same University . (Cambridge), professing to differ essentially from each other on this question, and founding their claims to support respectively on that very difference.—(Cheers.)—These circumstances are so strange—so extraordinary, that it is not by the sarcasms and joke of the lion. and Learned Gentleman (Mr. Brougham) the public can be reconciled to them. But, above all, when I recollect the motion brought forward a few weeks ago by the Honourable Member for Armagh (Mr. Brownlow), from. the very place, I believe, where I am now standing—which mo tion, deeply affecting the official character of Lord Manners, was supported by the Honourable Member for Limerick (Mr. Spring Rice), who took the op portunity of repeating his conviction, that " all the evils of Ireland were attendant upon that absurd state of things in which a Protestant Lord Chancellor was conjoined with a Catholic Lord Lieutenant in the Government of that coun try," how shall I now express my surprise, when I hear that the first act of the new Administration has been to prevail on the Lord Chancellor of Ireland to revoke his known intention of retiring from office ?—(Hear, hear.) — With these facts before me, I say, that the union of the Whigs with the new Administration is an extraordinary coincidence.—(Cheers.) —This is not an occasion on which I can be expected to give expression more fully to my opinions ; but as my votes on many questions that will come before me must depend on the degree of confi dence I possess in the Administration,—(Hear, hear)—l feel entitled to call upon them to state what are the con ,litions on which it has been formed, particularly with re- ard to Parliamentary Reform and the Established Church. see that the Member for Montrose (Mr. Hume) yeste_r- lay postponed his motion respecting the Church of Ire land, avowing as his reason for so doing that he had full confidence in the intentions of the new Ministey, though I believe, from 'no bottom of my heart, that he will find he is mistaken in his expectation of support from my Right lion. Friend (Mr. Canning), who, I believe, will man fully defend the Church against all his attacks. But when hear the Hon. Member for Montrose publicly state such a reason for postponing his motion, I must pause before I Tive any vote of mere confidence to the present Admini itration, till I know what are the principles on which it is founded, as to Parliamentary Reform and the other great Oestions of equal importance; whether they are to be open, like the Catholic Question, to free discussion by every ?;ember of • Administration, or whether those who are called by the honoured name of Whigs are prepared to op pose them when they may be brought forward? The Right Hon. Gentleman was greeted by loud cheers on re siiming his seat. Sir F. BURDETT instantly rose to address the House, but gave way to Mr. BROUGHAM, who wished to explain a passage in, his speech, which had been misunderstood by the Right Hon. Gentleman ; who, he began by remarking, had not attempted to answer any one argument he had used (Cries of spoke, spoke ! order !) An honourable MEMBER on the Opposition side, ;pose name we do not know, rose to order. He objected to, any repetition of what the Honourable and Learned Gentleman had already said. _ _ _ Mr. BROUGHAM assured the Honourable Gentleman that he was not going to say it again. He had said it once, and that was enough for him, as well as for the Honour able Gentleman.—(A laugh.)—He rose to expla'n a mis apprehension of the Right Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Peel), who had supposed him to impute the quality of fac tiousness to the mere common act of asking questions cal culated to annoy the Government. Now, in fact, he (Mr.. 3rougham) had said nothing that warranted that construe ti4n. He did not represent that practice as indicative of faction, or even impropriety. But he had said that it did !o41( something like faction, that when one Honourable Gentleman had opened a motion, another should interpose with another motion and debate, though not for a factious ruirpose. Sir F. BURDETT then proceeded—Though, Sir, the Right Hon. Gentleman has not attempted to answer any one of my Hon. and Learned Friend's arguments, he has thought fit to bring forward a variety of insinuations and personal allusions, and groundless charges of inconsistency and want of principle, neither to be maintained by reason it justice, nor in any degree warranted or called for by the occas i o n,—(Hear, hear.)—l must confess that the soreness of the Right Hon. Gentleman shows—notwithstanding the apparently fair and general professions which he has in this place made, and in which Le has denied that he partici pates in the bitter feelings of some of those who are opposed to the Government—that he is, nevertheless, inoculated with the virulence of the same spirit; or be would not so 4uddenly have forgotten the manly line of conduct within which he has, up to this time, confined himself. I did not think that the Right Hon. Gentleman was called on for any justification at all. If, on one consideration, he felt bound to resign his situation, I know of no Constitutional prin ciple that could be injured by his so doing.—(Hear.)--He has, therefore, only succeeded in proving what nobody dis puted, and in defending himself from accusations which nobody bad made against him.—(Hear, hear. )--But while he now loses that view of his position, and converts into to attack on the conduct of others what was in the first instance only a justification of himself, he must be made to feel how that attack recoils upon its author.—(Cheers.) —ln reply, I will tell him, that every word he uttered in his own defence was a complete justification of all those who have acted with me on the present occasion ; for, either he had no reason to withdraw from the Administration, or we had ample reason to give our sapport to it.—(Hear,hear. ) I will allow him the full benefit oEhis principles; and on precisely the same ground, though with an opposite view, I have stood in maintaining, defending, and pro moting my own. The Right Hon. Gentleman has talkea a great deal respecting Whigs and Tories. lam nei ther one nor the other. In fact, the terms have now no meaning. They are no longer applicable to the circum stances of the country. Though they might be somewhat convenient to indicate the distinction of opposite parties, it would - be well if, for the sake of clearness and precision, the use of il,:ern were discontinued. The Right Hon. Gentle man, I believe, .foes not reckon himself a Whig ; lie aspires to the higher honour of being accounted a Tory. For my part. I class myself simply as English subject, ready at all times to maintain the principles of the gonttitution, and happy in en opportunity to show that the piofess:,ons I made under other circumstances I am now prepared to fulfil.—(Hear, hear.)—l feel it my duty to support the Crown in the just exercise of its prerogative, against any factious band who may, by any concerted design, think to put it in a dilemma, and compel it again to accept their services.--(Louti cheers.)--,The prerogative of the Crown has been exercised in the present case, according to my opinion, in a most fortunate manner for the benefit of the country._(Cheers.)—lt was not my intention to have introdueed any hostility of feeling into this debate, o: to invite any expression of anger, still less of animosity. I did hope, that with the candour which he has always pro • teased, and with that discretion which has usually at tended hint, but from which he has egreg;ossly departed en this occasion, he would not have dealt out insiimaticsis respecting the condues of others, which he must have foreseen . would be repelled with equal warmth. I tell him again, that as far as they are intended to apply to me, they have not the slightest foundation in reason or justice—(Cheers.) What object of private interest can I have in view' Who, give me lease to ask, can impute any sinister design to me? The Right Hon. Gentleman, notwithstanding all his pro fessed cheerfulness in retiring from office, would, however, appear, fsom what he has said on the former and present occasions, an Bonsidering what his Hon. Friend the late Linder Secretary op pssitz (Mr. G. Dawson), to have with drpwn as reluctantly froniofilce a; if he were leaving the " Warm precincts of the cheerfsl day." If the course {surmised by the Right Hon. Gentleman was not absolutely irregular, it was undoubtedly not fair ; and particularly unfair, when be a-et out by a promise to adhere to the question before the Chair, and not to enter upon the discussion the topics on which subsequently he had exclusively expatiated.—(Hear, hear.) This conduct certainly seems to he something like casting A longing, lingering look behind." —(Cheers.) The Right Hon. Gentleman best knows his own motives ; and he has stated positively, that he and his late colleagues retired together, without any concert.— The fact, no doubt, therefore, was so ; but if there was no actual concert, there unquestionably was a kind of sympathetic concert.—(Laughter, and cries of "No, no.") The Ftiglit Hon. Gent. has founded several of his insi nuations on what re calls "extraordinary coincidences." — Now I cannot help reinarkieg, notwithstanding the de clarations of the Right Hon. Gentleman, that there was an extraordinary concurrence of resignations in an eitraor dinar). mantier.—_-(Cheers.) Whether it was intended to intimidate the King, is put him in a dilemma, as I said before, which would compel bun gain to call back the retiring 3!inisters,—(Cries of "No, no"), I a a snot now positively dectsre ; hut that certainly would be my opinion, if it were not for the aireei: declaration of the Right Rum. Gentleman to the contrary. When I look at all the circumstances of these resignations, i cannot avoid suspecting that they originated in an' attempt un justly to fetter the exercise of the prerogatives of the Crown -(Cheers.)—lf, I repeat, the Right Hon. Gentleman had not asserted the reverse, and I was guided only by the ap t' parpt facts of the case, that would be the natural and in- evitable conclusion at which I should arrive —(Hear, hear.) —One principal ground on which! give my support to the present Administration is, because it does practically and in effect uphold the King in the just exercise of his prero gative. That is my justification on that point. But I will tell the Right Hon. Gentleman further, that putting aside all the great questions which he is so singularly anxi ous to bring under discussion, including among the rest that of Parliamentary Reform--( A laugh)—l see sufficient rea aon to support this Administration---(Cheers.)---The Right Hon. Gentleman seems never to have known that there was a schism on the subject of Reform. It is news to him that there were ever shades of opinion upon it. He was not aware, it appears, that there were as many different views of the general measures as there have always been of comprehensive political questions. Some are for con fining it within narrow limits; others for extending it to the widest. lam ready to vote for any measure of Reform. By, supporting the present Government, I do not aban den or sacrifice one iota of my principles as a friend of Parliamentary Reform, or any other question on which I may deem it fitting and prudent to deliver my sentiments. —(Cheers.)—Asa man of common sense, I must wish to achieve some practical good in my time. If I cannot do all I would, I am bound, without waiting till, perhaps, more extensive views may be adopted, to promote all the good which the opportunity of the passing moment offers me.—(Hear, hear.)—lf I can, by my feeble efforts, gain the slightest chance of advancing, in the least degree, the public welfare, I receive all the satisfaction that can be afforded. The Right Hon. Gentleman will taunt me in vain with a dereliction of principle, while lie finds me thus engaged.-e-(Cheers.)—lf I can seize and secure any good for my country, I will grasp it. I have dedicated my life to this pursuit, and I shall be too happy if I live to be sue cessful.—(Cheers. )—The Right Honourable Gentleman has, unfortunately for himself, also attacked my Honour able and Learned Friend (Mr. Brougham). In this re spect he only followed the example of his friend, the late Under Secretary. Indeed, they go in couples ; they hunt together. The difference between them is only in the degreee of expression, 'not in the principle of mo deration or wisdom, but simply in words and temper ance. My Hon. and Learned Friend well said, that the late Under Secretary's language was an honest expo sure of his sentiments. It was the honesty of anger, of passion, of uneontrouled feeling, unmitigated, unmodified either by reason or discretion.—(Cheers and laughter.) -- I feel grateful to the Right Hon. Gentleman for having assumed the same tone. I can now speak of them toge ther. He has done a great service to the Ministry as well as to me. My Hon: and Learned Friend, who stands in the most extraordinary and honourable predicament, has beea attacked. But never was there a public man who occupied so conspicuous a station, which he renders still more conspicuous by the perpetual exertion of his unri valled abilities for the public good. He, in order to raise no obstacle to what he thinks an advantageous arrange ment to his country, lost all consideration of himself in the public benefit.—(Cheers.)—Though qualified to command as a General, sacrificing all pride and prejudice, -he serves as a soldier in the ranks. The saying of a great conspira tor in a bad 'cause he has exemplified in the best.--(Hear, hear, hear.)—He is an instance how a Statesman may be suspected 'and calumniated, though acting from motives of the purest patriotism.—(Lond Cheers.)--The commonest considerations, if not of candour, at least of justice, should have induced the Right Hon. Gentle man to have avoided the course on which he has this even. ing entered. Like my Hon. and Learned Friend, I have, I can have, nothing to hope, to fear, or to expect from this Government. I can have no view of personal advantage. There is hardly any sacrifice I would not make to remove the obstructions that impede the progress of my principles. It is no small good to have removed from the King's Coun cils that r arrow minded, higotted part of the late Adminis tration, who, perhaps, et,,)-years back, might have been highly esteemed, but who were no wise adapted to the century in which we live.—(Cheers).—Their resignation leaving us nothing to regret.—(Cheers.)—For a long time they have weighed heavily on the best interests of the people, while they clogged the superior intellect of their Colleagues, and prevented their advance in conformity with the state of public opinion. Thank God, the Administration is now purged of that dross.—(A laugh.)—His-present situation may raise important reflections in the mind of the King himself. When he sees how he is supported by the people against the faction that sought to enthral him,—(Cheers,) he will perceive how much safer and more secure, as well as more honourable and glorious, it is for a King of England to have.his power founded on the hearts of his people rather than have its basis composed of factions.—(Loud cheers, and cries of " Order.")—l cannot refrain from noticing some phrases which are reported to have come out of the mouths of those who have lately done the public the favour to resign their offices.—(A laugh. )—These phrases are so singular and extraordinary, that it is impossible to pass them by . wholly without comment. The parties to whom I allude have found out that that portion of the Press, which is influenced by the Administration of the day, is a foul and calumnious Press.—(Hear, hear.)—lt is now heaping abuse on them whom it long basely flattered. But while it only operated against their opponents, net a word of complaint was ever heard to pass their lips. As to the 'Right' Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Peel) who has, on this occa sion, thought it necessary to secede from the Administra tion, I am bound to say that his language has been, on all occasions, distinguished by a candour and a. sincerity which leaves him free from all reproach 'upon this subject —a can dour and a manliness which those who call themselves of the same party have, happily, I would say, for the country, not had the discretion—l might almost add the decency— to imitate--(hear, hear, hear); hut what, I might add, can satisfy the malice of disappointed ambition—(Hear, hear) ? What language can express the feelings, the fury, of narrow-minded bigotry, or of the virulence of faction—(Heer, hear, hear) ?—For I would say, without fear of contradiction from any Member upon either side, that, during the whole of the time I have had the honour of a seat in this House, there never has existed a more factious Opposition than that which we now see arrayed against the Government.—(Loud cheers.)—[Mr. Peel, we believe, was here observed to laugh.] The Right Hon. Gentleman laughs, and thinks, I dare say, that I am stating a most monstrous proposition, and thinks, perhaps, that he could state some things which would prove those who formerly occupied that station to be entitled to an appella tion of quite as much discredit. I would challenge him, however, to chew a single act of that Opposition which was not, as far as related to the late Government, in this Mese, perfectly disinterested. I defy him to shew that any party in this House ever acted upon principles more purely disinterested towards any Government, than those who lately occupied that situation. That Opposition supported the Government in its attempt to introduce those liberal principles of policy for which it has re ceived so much credit in the country. It upheld it with that House and with tire country, when it was in danger of being dragged back in its course by that weight from which it is now happily freed, and prevented it from standing ill with' the country from its being connected with those who were hostile to the progress of all national improvement, and whose separation From that Government, I may - say, without fear of contradiction, has, in the eyes of the people of this country, and of Ireland, freed it from a weight which retarded its advance—which oppressed its energies, and frustrated its best endeavours for the advantage of mankind. --(Cheers.)—My Right 'Hon. Friend (Mr. Canning) has been accused, among other things, of an overweening ambition. That accusation, even if true, is not of any ac count at all ; but he has been accused also of having abused the rights and privileges which his high situation afforded him, of injuring the reputation of his colleagues, and of furtively and basely pouring a leprous distilment into the ears of the King.—(Hear, hear.)—No man, however, of common candour or common honesty, who had listened to the plain and manly statement of the Right Hon. Gentleman, could give credit tosuch an accusation. If to fulfil the slight est wishes of his Sovereign with respect to the constrction of 14s Government, to give immediate obedience to his com mands, and to offer his honest advice with regard to the course which prudence required him to adopt, be to betray the interests of his Colleagues, then I would say that the accusation may he true ; but I can hardly think there are many men in this House who consider the application of such an expression to the Right Hon. Gentleman's conduct on this occasion to he in the slightest degree justifiable.— (Cheers.)--[Mr. Peel here observed, that he had used no such language, nor made any such observation.]_l (con tinued Sir Francis) am not now alludiag to the Right Hon. Gentleman ; I did nut say that he had done so ; but the Right Hon. Gentleman always seems to think that he only is spOken of—(Cheers)—that he only is the person against whom the observations upon these trans actions can be addressed.—(Cheers and laughter.) The Right Hon. Gentleman, with all the modesty °Ms cha sectee, did not. when he had occasien to address his statement to the liouse, iorget to mention his services. ___(Laughter, and hear, hear.) But the Right Hon. Gentleman ought to recollect that there may be some thing else worth noticing; and he ought to feel, that whee I speak of such things as these I cannot allude to the Fr : ;lit Hon. Gentic i man, but to the squad.—(Cheers and laughter.)—lf some individuals made charges utterly unfair, and grossly false and unfounded, I may be permitted to allude to them, without being-supposed to reflect upon him ; while I say, at the same time, that those charges, and the violence and acerbity of feeling they display, atlord the highest gratification to me, as displaying a strong con firmation of the propriety of their exclusion, - and of the justice of those measures which bad been adopted.—(Hear, hear, hear.)--The Right Hon. Gentleman has asked, how ever, .upon what principles the Government now means to proceed upon .certain .questions of policy ? Among others, he has mentioned the State of the Roman Catholics of Ire land. Does the Right Hon. Gentleman, then, not know that principle ? Issthere no principle resolved upon with which the Right Hon. Gentleman is acquainted?—(Hear, hear, hear. )_And if, then, there is no principle, why did he quit office ? If there was no principle to be adopt ed upon Catholic Emancipation, why did he, upon the ground of that question, desert the King ?—(Cheers.)— The Right Hon. Gentleman, in that case, is embarked in the same boat with me. Ile is equally with me engaged to support the Government; or if not, his question is a two-edged sword, which wounds only himself, or at least, the sharp edge is applied to him, the blunt can only be turned upon me.—(Hear.)—He has not been justified in abandoning his colleagues in office, and withdrawing his 'support from the Government, if I am not justified, under the circumstances, of affording that Government all the support which it is in my power to bestow.—(Hear, hear.) There is another point connected with the question of Ca tholic Emancipation, to which I wish to advert. It is not by, the exertion of party spirit, however powerful, that ouch great measures are to be rendered successful. The Emancipation of the Roman. Catholics must depend upon the progress of knowledge. It must advance with the advance of mind—(hear, hear)—and the diffusion of better and more liberal feelings.. These are the only means by, which I ever thought the question could be supported in this country ; and I may say now, that it was never said by me, or by any other Gentleman who advocated their cause, that we were prepared to raise the standard of re bellion in this country, unless we obtained our object.— (Hear, hear, hear. )__We have worked, or as we must still continue to labour, by argument, and endeavour to still the fears of the timid, and obviate the objections of the conscientiously hostile. We have endeavoured to proceed in our course with the same caution which I trust still to see displayed ; and I cannot doubt, by a union of wisdom, of prudence, and of temperance, with that caution which ought never to be abandoned, we must ultimately triumph. Let us not, however, allow our efforts to be counteracted by the sugges tions of our adversaries, nor suffer ourselves to be taunted , into a course of folly by those who know that precipitation would be destruction.—( Hear, hear.)-1 think great good has resulted to the country from the secession of those who were opposed to, usk--always excepting,the Right-Hon. Gen tleman, to whose merit I.would do every justice. It might be considered even an interposition .of that Providence which permits not .even a sparrow to- fall to the ground without its knowledge...4liter, and laughter. )—I must hope, therefore, that thefallof theme. Ministerial sparrows was intended for some wise and benevolent purpose—(hear hear, hear 9.--and sorry should I. be to see , the acts of &Vine wisdom and justice receive any counteraction from the efforts of human industry..--(Hear, hear.)- , -With re spect to Ireland, I have been told this very day, -from an authority upon which I can depend, that it begins already to feel the influence of . the beneficial change in the Go vernment, and to enjoy the blessings of tranquillity. I ',ear that the Catholic Association, so long considered formidable to the Government and destructive of the peace of the Empire, no sooner saw fair hopes held out to them of a fair consideration of their claims to the attention of the legislature, and a reasonable prospect of justice being done to their representations, than they seized the op portunity to give a proof of their confidence and satisfac tion in the Government. They felt that' the reign of narrow-minded bigotry—of that intolerant opposition which would, from the most indefensible feeling, shut cut the dawn of hope, was at an end ! They felt that the light of hope was breaking in upon the darkn e ss of their political degradation, and that they must participate in common with their fellow-subjects in measures of general improve ment.—(Hear, hear.)—The Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Peel) has taken his stand upon a spot from which he cannot recede.—(Hear, bear.)—But the mind. of England is not chained to any party-prejudice; it is not, as the Right Hon. Gentleman and his coadjutors have declared they must be, stationary.—(Cheers.)—lt is open to argument, it is free to conviction, and knows how to appreciate. the effects of those enlightened principles of policy which I am now here to support and to defend.—(Hear,.hear.)—And however satisfactory the reasons of the Right Hon. Gentle- , min may be to .himself and to those who participate in his prejudices, they will not be equally satisfactory to the country. Convinced that the :time must come when the force of argument must be felt, and satisfied that we cannot go back, although I,would not now shrink from advocating the cause to which have pledged myself, and 'declaring my continued conviction of the propriety of concession, to the fullest extent, I have ever maintained it ; yet, convinced, I repeat that there is no standing still—that the intellect of the English people must go onward—that it cannot go back, I feel satisfied to trust to its effect for the ultimate accom plishment of that object which I have ever most earnestly desired.—(Cheers.) — . Sir EDWARD' KNATCHBULL complained of the language which had been used to the Right Hon. Gentle man and hie . Friends,' as' wholly unjustifiable either from their conduct or expressions: Nothing was, in his opi uinn, more natural, nothing more reasonable, than that his Right Hon. Friend should feeLanxious to know upon what principles the Government *as in future to be conducted, ' and who were the men to *loin. the realising the plans of those principles was to be entrusted. He did not deny that . the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Canning) pos sessed great talent and great eloquence; but he recollected very well, that an Hon. Member, now'sitting upon a. dif ferent side of the House, declared but a very few weeks ago, when seeking to know the steps taken in the formation of this very Administration, that although lie bad heard a great deal about measures, not men, lie had always consi-. dcred the expression as net very alien from nonsense.— (Cheers.)—Now, that was precisely what his Right Ho nourable Friend desired to know. He wished the Right Honourable Gentlemen to say, Who were the men who were to propose and carry into effect the. measures. That was what he wished to know himself, net from any ob ject of otiose Curiosity, but from a sense of duty to his Constituents and the country. After some high compli ments to the manliness of character, and clearness of expres sion of the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Peel), and an ex pression of his deep regret that he did not form a part of the Government, the Hon. Baronet observed, that no man was fit to preside over a divided Cabinet, but a man of the high character, profound judgment, and exalted rank of Lord Liverpool. It had been his fate to differ from the Right Hon. Gentleman now at the head Of the Government upon a very vital question. If that question had been carried in that House, he for one, protesting against its principle, and deploring the consequences likely to .result to the country, would have felt it to be his duty to bow with submission to the decrees of Parlia ment; but as the opinion of the House had been most decidedly expressed against the entertaining such a pro e position,' he felt it more imperative upon him to require from the Right Hon. Gentleman some intimation of the nature of the principles upon which the Government was in future to proceed. Then came the question of what con fidence was to he reposed in a Minister? Every thing, it was known, in this country, turned upon confidence, and it was therefore a matter of the last i in portaece that the person placed at the head of the Government should openly avow the principles upon which he intended to proceed. The Hon. Baronet then animadverted with some severity upon the topics advanced by the Hon. Baronet (Sir F. Burdett), and declared that it was altogether impossible for him or any other person who had been in the habit of supporting his Majesty's Government, to continue his confidence to au Administration formed of such a strange mixture of poli tical parties. Could any thing be so irreconcilable with all the notions entertained of an efficient Government, as the fact, that when the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr., Canning) was asked to etplain the principles of his Government, that explanation came not from the 'Minister at the head of the Government, but from the Honourable and Learned Gentle man (Mr. Brougham), the Member for Witichelsea. It had been said that the Honourable and Learned Gentle man would be able to give a more active, liberal, and efficient support to the Government by not taking office. That his support was efficient, every one who knew great abilities must allow, and that it was liberal as yet, he was prepared - to admit ; but he preferred knowing the exact condition in which that Honourable Gentle man and his friends were placed ; for so long as the Right Hon. Gentleman abstained from entering into an explana tion of the principles neon which he *as to conduct his Administration—so long as he avoided naming clearly the persons of whom it was composed—so long must the con fidence of the House and of the country be withheld.— (The Hon. Baronet was vehemently cheered by Mr. Peel and others during the whole of these observations.) Mr. CANNING then rose and said—l hope that the House will permit me to say a very few words in reply to the very didactic speech of the Hon. Baronet who has Just favoured the House with his opinions, and in explanation of my observation upon a former occasion. The speech of the Hon. Baronet refers principally to the reception which I have given to a question addressed to me in the com mencement of this debate. Ido not object to that ques tion itself upon any considerations connected with its oh.. ject, but I must take leave to say, that I have never known, in the whole of my Parliamentary experience, these rules which courtesy permits, and which convenience has sanctioned, to have been violated to so great a degree by any Member of this House.—(Cheers.) —,Upon the un derstanding that the answer is to be a mere matter of courtesy, it sometimes does happen that a Member, with out any previous notice, asks leave .to put a brief ques tion to the Minister, upon a subject of pressing import ance. Such I have, speaking from my own recollec tion and experience, always understood to be the course ; but I never, I repeat, recollect any instance of a question . without notice being accompanied by a speech such as we have this night heard from the Hun. Member opposite..—(Cheers.)—This was my impression, and I have since consulted others, who declare it to be correct.—(llear.)--That any Hon. Member, under the pretence of asking a question, should seize the opportunity of introducing a motion, and that motion, too, thrust forward in the middle of another motion of great and almost paramount importance, the business' of the evening, and the discussion upon which the House was most anxiously awaiting, is, however, I repeat, a circumstance alto gether unprecedented in the annals of Parliament.—(Loud clieers.)—To that question thus put to me, and under these circumstances, I applied my observation when I said the attempt was only calculated to excite disgust.—(Hear.) —There is a consequence, too, resulting from it which the Hon. Gentleman does not foresee; and that is, that no Minister, if such a course is pursued, will feel himself bound to answer such questions at all.—(Hear.)—The Hon. Member made it a matter of complaint against me, and as a reason for his conduct, that I was not in my place at the time he expected, and when he wished his question. to be answered. But did not the Hon. Gentleman recol lect it was usual, in such cases, to have the courtesy to give some notice of a Member's intention ? If he had given me, by any means, the slightest intimation that he intended to put any question to me, it certainly should have brought me down instantly to give a reply, but, even then I might hare felt not a little surprised at the course pursued by the Hon. Member—a course so absurd and so inconvenient, that any one must see it could not for a moment be tolerated.—(Chee.s.)—l rejoice, Sir, how ever, that the standard of Opposition is at length raised in this House.—(Loud cheers.)—Such an act is to me worth a thousand professions of qualified neutrality.---( Vehement cheers.)—ln whatever mind the feeling of hostility lurks, let it come boldly forth, and boldly will I meet it.—(Con tinned cheering.)—There have been one or two questions asked me—l trust the House will extend its indulgence to me i while I briefly answer them. I am asked what I mean to do on the subject of Parliamentary Reform? Why, I say—to oppose it—to oppose it to the end of my life in this House, .under whatever shape it may appear.— (Ch ee ee.)—l am asked, what is nay opinion nu , the subject of the Test Act ; I say to oppose it.-•,- 7 (Citeers.)-- ,, 1t - . has happened by some coincidence, that the Test Act, is one 'of the subjects upon which it has never yet been my lot to pro nounce an opinion in this House.: But yet I have an opinion upon it, and Ido not hesitate to • declare it. I think that the exertions of the Legislature ought to' be directed to the relief of practical - and not theoretical grievances; and that inasmuch as any meddling with the Test Act might go . to prejudice that great question, the success of which. I have most truly at my heart, there fore I will oppoie it.—(Cheers.) I hope I have spoken out. I hope I have made myself clearly understood.— (Hear, hear.) As to the charge brought against us by the Hon. Baronet (Sir E. Knatchbull), that the Government, when called upon to give an answer upon the subject of its composition and its policy, left the answer to those who had no apparent interest in or connection with the ques tion. Sir, I deny the charge.—(Cheer§.) I say, with out hesitation, that the accusation is untrue.—(Loud cheers.) I did not shrink from the question. It was not addressed to me ; but I never will shrink from explanation or defence, either to the hostility of the open and manly foe, or to the not less dangerous insinuations of the dis avowed opponent.—(Loud and long continued cheering.) Sir. E. KNATCIiBULL said, in explanation, thatbe fore the Right Hon. Gentleman so warmly declared the ac cusation to be untrue, he ought to have first known what that accusation was. He never said that the Right Hon. Gentleman refused to answer the charge brought against him—he only complained that others had given that answer which ought to have come from the Government. Mr. CANNING.—I am sorry to say, that I.think the explanation makes the accusation worse. The Hon.. Bart. mistakes, or seems to mistake, the real state of the case. I stated that the accusation was altogether:unfounded, and,. he still maintains, that Government being called upon for ex planation, I declined to give it, I say, that the call was made upon those, who have joined the. Government, to chew why they have supported it. The proposition 'advanced by the Hon. Baronet is, therefore, founded on the argurnentuni ad inridiuni, in the highest degree.--(Hear, hear.)--His charge was, that the Government of the country was called upon for explanation, and that I declined or avoided giving it. In his second charge, he said that others had taken the explanation out of my mouth ; whilst thaact is, that the call being, as I have already stated, made upon my Hon. Friends, to ehew why they support me, they rose to do so. Not a word that has been said called upon me for explana tion. There was another thing by whith the Hon. Bart. might know, that what was &list did not call upon me fur reply, for my Right Hon. Friend,. I. know from my know ledge of his character, would not, whatever others might have done, have put categorical questions to me, to which I could not by the rules of the House, have replied, having already spoken, I have no hesitation in saying, that there has been nothing like wilful misrepresentation on the part of the Hon. Baronet.—(Cheers.)—Whatever-mistake he may have been betrayed into is referable, solely,, no,doulat, to the heat of debate ; and, as to any personal feeling,which he may have attributed to me, I can assure.. him, that I bear anger on these occasions but. as the flint carries fire.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. PEEL bore testimony to the correctness with which his Right Hon. Friend had stated the effect of his (Mr. Peel's) allusions.—(Hear, bear.)—While, however, be ac knowledged that the Right Hon. Gentleman- hail set his Hon. Friend right in this respect, lie must contend, that he had a fair political right to ask those who had accepted office, under the new Government, why they had so taken office ? He thought, however, that, throughout his speech, he had most particularly implied, that he was satisfied his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. Canning) intended to adhere to his principles, and, acting upon his own views of the in terests of the Established Church, he (Mr. Peel) still consi dered, that he was fairly justified in demanding of those who had taken office, on what principles they, had Joined, his Right Hon. Friend ? In conclusion, he could not help saying, that he looked upon the animadversions of the Hon. Bart. on the other side; in relation to any thing which had fallen from him (Mr. Peel) as totally - uncalled for.—(Hear.) Sir F. BURDETT explained, 'but was not audible in.the gallery. Lord J. RUSSELL had-felt considerable surprise at the irregularity which the late Right Hon. Home Secrctaary had committed, in at first saying, that he was about to speak on the propriety of the Houses voceLlling with the motion of the Hon. and Gallant General, and then going into certain charges, at great length, against those who had accepted office under the new Government, and giving hi s own reasons for refusing to do so.—(Hear.) : —Now, as he ; (Lord J. R.) did not mean to accept office himself under it, lie might, - perhaps, the more readily be allowed to m a k e a few observations on the speech of the Right Hon. Gentle man, who had said. among other things; that he supposed, if there was any principle of union which bound together the parties comprising the present Administration, it was the wish that there should be some change effected in the Con stitution of Parliament.--(Hear.)—He (Lord J. R.) was astonished at this remark ; for the Right Hon. Gentle-•' man might have remembered to have heard the Hon. Member for Knaresborough, but a very few Sessions ago, declare his conviction, and from the other side of the House (Lord John Russell spoke from under the Minis terial gallery), that Parliamentary Reform never could be a party question in this country.,—(Chiere.)—lt might be allowed him, also, to state a fact, which he had, perhaps, better reason to he informed of than the Right Hon. Gen tleman, and that corroborated this vieiv'of the case. He himself, some feW years since„ had expresSed his Wish that the whole 'Of the party with which 'he 'Voted shOuld unite to promote the cause of Parliamentary Reforni ; but it then appeat'ed not only that most of the leaders of that party were'deiirous that it should 'not be made a party question, but that the Whig party, if they should come in as a party, would be opposed to it, or any other measure having Parliamentary Reform for its object.--(Hear, hear.) This fact he mentioned to show that it could not be justly imputed as a crime to any person, with whom he had been in the habit of voting, to have taken office on the present occasion, without having stipulated that Parliamentary Reform should be made a party question. But, perhaps, the Right Hon. Gentleman expected that he (Lord John Russell) should introduce that question, again, to the House. It happened unfortunately again, that the` very last time he had mentioned the question, in the course of the last Ses sion, he had declared that that would be the last occasion of his doing so. And why had he (Lord J. Russell) made that declaration? Because he had found a great lukewarmness on the subject throughout the country— (Hear)—and that growing lukewarmness, h believed to be attributable to the improvement whiCh had taken place in the manner of conducting the Goverm;nent.—(Cheers. ) Whether the people of this kingdom were right or wrong in allowing themselves to become indifferent upon such a cause, it was not now for him to examine; but he did be lieve, that as long as they saw the general affairs . of the country well conducted, and actuated by a spirit of im provement, they would not look too narrowly into the Constitution Of that House of Parlianient. At all events, such a lukewarmness - did at present prevail ; and be had, therefore, found it necessary to give up the course he had pursued formerly, of constantly bringing this topic under the consideration of Parliament.—(Hear). 7 ---" The Right HOU. Gentleman hiniselfwould give him leave to , say, on the other hand, that if any one thing more than another could be calculated to produce Parliamentary Re form, in a few years it would be placing that Right Hon. Gentleman in one of the highest situations of the Govern inent—(Hear, hear.)—for, in that case, and under such political principles, Ireland would be so afflicted with con- tending factions, and all their trains of insurrections and political misery, according to his anticipations, that her dreadful state would furnish an irresistible argument for the necessity of Parliamentary Reform.—(Hear, hear: )--- Ile (Lord J. Russell) too sincerely loved his country to desire to see Parliamentary Reform effected at such a price. Then, again, as to the Right Hon. Gentleman near him (Mr. Canning), after seeing him for so many years backed by those who had now deserted him, and his progress fettered, and his powers' clogged, on too many occasions, by the views of some among those with whom he had co operated, he was, also, too. happy to find that Right Hob. Gentleman no longer so restrained, but at the head of his Majesty's Govvernment, to wish to moot against him the necessity of Parliamentary Reform, under circumstances like the present.---(Loud cheering.) Mr. DAWSON, in reply, began by declaring that he should not divide the House upon his motion.—(Hear, hear. )—But he must observe, that a question having been by him addressed to the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Canning), that Right Hon. Gentleman had got up, and, in a manner most uncourteons, and as he (Mr. DO thought, very unparliamentary, certainly had answered him. Of the conciseness of that answer—(Laughter)—be had nothing to complain, but undoubtedly it would have been• much more satisfactory to the country at large had the Right Hon. Gentleman condescended to reply more fully. Upon the points to which his question referred he had thought he was justified, as a Member of Parliament, and in the discharge of his duty, in seeking for informa tion. Having obtained that information substantially, he should not divide the House on his motion.—(Loud cries of " divide.")—No, he would not divide, but other Hen. Gentlemen who desired to do so, might. Before he sat do*n, he must take the liberty of observing,' that the House had little reason to congratulate itself upon the mode in which one of its Members, who had so risen in his place forthe purpose of propounding a question; had been treated' -..-treated, therefore, in the' performance •of his own duty. Tl 4 Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Canning) ought to recol lect that for 5 years he had served with him, and voted with him, on the other side of the House—(a laugh)—that, for five years, that Right Hon. Gentleman had never met with an uncourteous expression from him—(laughter)—that he (Mr. Dawson) had never refused to that Right Hon. Gen tleman the tribute of admiration eo justly due to his ex.= traordinary talents. All this , the Right . H on . G ent l eman should have recollected, before he adopted the sort of man ner he had that evening assumed in answering his ques tion.—(A laugh).—ln introducing the present motion, he (Mr. Dawson) had carefully abstained from all allu 'oes to him, except to state his opinion of the manner in which the Right Hon Gentleman had attained to his present distinguished station. He must take leave to say - , that had he thought proper to go into all the details which had been elsewhere alluded to, he might have recol lected some passages in the past life of the Right Hon. Gentleman, which would create and justify, in his own mind, some suspicions of that Right Hon. Gentleman, as a political character—some suspicions :touching the man ner in which he had got his present office.—(Cries of " Order.")—But he (Mr. Dawson) had done no such . thing ; he had carefully abstained from every such allu sion. After what had passed, however, - lie must observe, that if that Right Honourable Gentleman looked back upon his.experiences in past days, his reflections on what had taken place in those days could be of no gratifying descrip tion.—(Murmurs.)---The Right Hon. Gentleman had thought proper to say, that his (Mr. Dawson's) motion had been received with disgust by the House. Now, the proposition had not been received with disgust by the House. But if it had been received by the Right Hon. Gentleman himself with disdain, he (Mr. Dawson) thought hislown character in that House justified him in repelling this insinuation, in the same feeling with which MIN been made.—(Here the vehemence of the Hon. Gentleman's action knocked some papers off the table, which excited a degree of merriment in the House, that prevented us from catching his concluding sentence.) Sir G. WARRENDER expressed his surprise at such a / discussion having arisen out of a question, and a reply, which the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Dawson) seemed, how ever, to think of so stinging a character.—(Laughter.)— At first, he had expected that there would be a degree of neutrality, as between the contending parties, in respect of the; Roman CathOlic Question : and he was the more sorry that that neutrality had not been observed, because he could feelingly declare, that the absence of it had very nearly lost him his election.—(Laughter.)—On the pre sent occasion, lie must say, that as fair and honest a factious course had been pursued by the Gentlemen op posed to the Government, as it hail ever been his fortune to witness.—(Much laughter.).—The Right lion. Gentle man, late the Home Secretary.-for• whom- he (Sir -G. Warrender) had the highest respect—in the first place, had deprecated the going into a discussion, which, would prevent the House from fully entering into the motion of • .the,Hon. and Gallant General (Gascoyne), and then went on, , te his (Sir George's) great surprise, , into almost every irrelevant topic which could be suggested—(A laugh, and cries of " Order")—he meant, for example, such topics as Parliamentary Reform—a subject that, for his own part, he really thought bad not been mentioned in that House for • these eight years past----(A laugh. )—Seriously speaking. be must thank the Gentlemen who had taken so active a part in fomenting this discussion, because it enabled him to per ceive whit was the course of opposition which they were attempting to pursue, in regard to the Right Hon. Gentle man (Mr. Canning.)—To that Right Hon. Gentleman, he, for one, should tender—a most inefficient, it might be, hut certainly a most cordial and zealous support.—(Cheers.)— Ile was afraid that he had been but an idle member of Par liament ; but he had had experience enough, as a member, to appreciate the very unfair sort of attempt which was making, to surround the position of that Right Hon. Gen tleman with all sorts of difficulties, by agitating the Ca tholic question.—(Cheers.)—To that Right Hon. Gentle man awl the Government connected with him—a G overn . ment which the Hon. Member for Kent imagined had lost the confidence of the country—be should give his utmost, and his most zealous aid. The question on Mr. Dawson's motion was then put, and negatived, the'‘ noes" being extremely numerous and loud. th ii General GASCOYNE then observed, that if he were now to bring forward his motion, the House might divide upon it ; and he therefore thought it would be advisable not to carry it further at present. He appealed to his Right Honourable Colleague (Mr. Huskisson) to say, whether or no the question should not be postponed for the present. Mr. HUSKISSON was not prepared to give a decided answer to his Honourable and Gallant Friend, as to whe ther his motion should be pressed at present, or deferred to a future opportunity. The judgment of his Honourable and Gallant Friend must decide the question. This much however, he would offer his Honourable and Gallant Friend by way of advice. If he considered the present occasion a fitting opportunity for pressing the question to' a division, there was no reason why he should not do so. If he should be of a different opinion, he ought then to withhold his motion until - a proper time arrived for bringing it be fore the House. Perhaps his • Honourable and Gallant Friend would postpone his motion until so-morrow. Mr. HEATHCOTE hoped that a further time would be allowed before the discussion of this most importanl question would again be urged. One thing was certain, namely, that while the question relative to the formation of his Majesty's Government was open to the observatiiina of Hon. Members, neither this question, nor any other un connected with the one at issue, would - have the least chance of being fairly and dispassionately handled. Sup pose the question were fixed for to-morrew, might not the Alember for Derry again come down, and in the midst of the discussion bring forward some motion similar to that with which he had favoured the House to-night?--,.(Hear, hear.)—There never was a time when the spirit of party was so high as at present ; and he might truly add, that there never was a question brought before the House which required more temperance and less of party feeling than that which the Lion. and Gallant General had this night proposed to bring forward. The Honourable Gentleman concluded by moving that this question •be now adjourned. SCOYNE . said, that in o b e di ence w i t h the of the House he would at o nce pos t pone the gen T Ger l e i n e le i rf r ea m ell t iG i li o g e A , we believe, was not seconded. mo tion until to-morrow. Mr. HUSKISSON — Or Monday. A co nversation then took place b e t ween M r. Hostage: sox, General GASCOYNE, and other Ho n . G en tl e men in terested, as to whether to-mo rrow or M on d ay wou ld b e the most convenient day for the f ur th er di scuss i on o f the (P,e*".. tion brought forward by the Hon. and Gallant Member for Liverpool ; and, after a short consultation,' it was decided that the motion should be brouglit forward . gain on Mina- -: day, Mr. Peet having signified his intention to withdraw his motion for the further consideration of the Report on , • the criminid Laws' Consolidation Bills, _Nt'fii94 1it494 fqr'