The Sun. — London, England, 1861-02-20 00:00:00

MONEY MARKET AND CITY NEWS. CITY, Two o'CLocx. Although the money market appears rather easier in consequence of the diminished inquiry for accommodation, very little improvement has yet occurred. The best descriptions of short dated bills are negotiated at a fraction below the Bank minimum, but securities having a full period to run cannot be discounted under 8 per cent., and the smaller class of traders still experience con siderable difficulty in providing for their require ments. Upon the whole, however, a better feeling prevails and increased easiness is shortly expected. Gold is now 3-10 per cent. dearer in Lo - ndon than in Paris, and about 6-10 per cent. higher than in Hamburg. No material alteration took place in the foreign exchanges yesterday aftermion. The first meeting of the Universal Marine Insur ance Company has been convened for the 7th pros. Increased dulness was exhibited in the Liver pool Cotton Market yesterday, and prices wore id per lb. lower. The sales only amounted to 3,000 bales. The Board of Trade Returns for the month of December, and for the year 1860, have not yet appeared, and the delay in their publication is loudly complained of in commercial circles. Arrangements have been made for a transfer of the business and effects of Messrs. Ledgard and Sons, bankers, who recently suspended, to the Wilts and Dorset Banking Company, the latter agreeing to pay the creditors 10s. in the pound, and any further amount that may be derived from the estate. A decline of about per cent. has taken place in the English Stock Market to-day, owing to several speculative sales. Consols are now quoted 914 4 for money, and 91 92 for account. Very little business, however, has been transacted, and an unfavourable effect seems to have been pro duced by the embarrassments of M. Mires, of Paris, the contractors for the last Turkish loan. There is also some pressure for money among the dealers, which adds to the heaviness of the market. The New Threes are flat at 914 j ; the Reduced at 91 t ; Bank Stock has receded to 236 . and 238 ; India IS per Cents. are 1001 ; ditto New Loan Scrip, 1001 a ; ditto 51 per Cent. Rupee] Paper re mains at 101. _ _ . Very few transactions have been recorded in Foreign Securities, and prices show no variation. Turkish 6 per Cents. are 691 to 70 ; ditto 1858, 55 to 551; Portuguese remain at 461; Mexican at 231 ; but Spanish Deferred are firm at 40f ; Bra ziLian 41 per Cents. are 851. Increased heaviness has prevailed in the Rail way Share Market, the decline in some instances amounting to 1 and 1 per cent. Eastern Counties, Midlands, and West Midlands have receded ss. ; Great Western, North Western, North British, and South Eastern, 10s. ; London and Blackwall, 155.; and Lancashire and Yorkshire, IL Great Northern have advanced 55.; and South Western, 10s. Business in the Foreign Market was almost sus pended, and prices were nominally unaltered. The Colonial lines were flat. Great Western of Canada declined to 111, and Grand Trunk remained heavy at 22 ; East Indian receded to 98k. Joint-stock Bank and Miscellaneous Shares also exhibited symptoms of depression. Bank of Australasia declined 10s. ; Union of London, 55.; Crystal Palace Stock, 10s. ; and Royal Mail Steam, £l. Red Sea Telegraph Shares improved ss. BRITISH FUNDS—CLOSING PRICES. Bank Stock 3 per Cent. Reduced Annuities 9ll / 3 per Cent. Consols Annuities - 1 New 3 per Cent. Annuities 9ll 4 1 1 1 Annuities, 30 yrs, expire Sth Jan., 1880 — Ditto for 30 yrs, expire sth April, 1885 l6l India Stock. ... .. ,••• Ditto b per Cent Ditto Scrip - 1 / 1 Ditto Enlaced Paper, 4 per Cent. — Ditto 51 per Cent lOl Ditto Debentures, 1858 Ditto 1859 Ditto Bonds £l,OOO l5 dis Ca ssols for Account, March 7 Exchequer Bills, £l,OOO, lid Ditto Small FOREIGN FUNDS—CLOSING PRICES. Braailian 5 per Cent Ditto 41- per Cent. ISGO B5l 1 Mexican 3 per Cent . Ditto Account New Urenada Active, 31 per Cent Portuguese 3 per Cent.. 1853. •• • Ditto Account Spanish 3 per Cent Ditto New Deferred — Ditto Account Ditto Passive Spanish Cert. of Coup. not funded.— ... 61 1 Turkish 6 per Cent .. Ditto New Loan Ditto Account Ditto Guaranteed, 4 per Cent. Venezuelan 3 per Cent Ditto Account Dividends on the above payable in London. THREE O'CLOCK. Console, Money 9ll 4 - Ditto Account THE WEATHER. METEOROLOGICAL REPORTS. This Day, between 8 and B. E. M. D. F. C. LS. 9 a.m. --- _ Nairn 29/4 43 39 S.S.E. 6 3 b. 6 Aberdeen 2946 41 40 S.S.E. 5 3 0. 3 Greenock Berwick 2945 41 39 S. 3 3 c. 3 Ardrossan Portrush 29'12 44 43 E.S.E. 3 4 o. 3 Shields Galway 2 9 .01 44 43 S. 8 4c. 6 Scarborough 29130 39 38 S.S.W. 2 2 b. 3 Hull Liverpool 29•61 42 41 S.E. 4 9 0. 3 Yarmouth 29'68 42 41 S. 2 7 1. 3 London 29'66 43 41 S. 1 8 0. Night extreme 29*71 34 S.E. 1 5 c. liew 29 Gg 42 41 S. 3 9 0. Dover 2 9 .68 45 44 W.S.W. 3 7 0 . 5 Portsmouth Portland Piymouth .Penzance EXPLANATION.—B. Barometer, corrected and reduced to 32 deg at mean sea level ; each 10 feet of vertical rise causing about 1-100th of an inch diminution, and each 10 deg above 32 deg causing nearly 3-100ths increase. E. Exposed thermometer in shade. M. Moistened bulb (for evaporation and dew-point). D. Direction of wind (true — not magnetic). F. Force (1 to 12—estimated). C. Cloud (1 to 9). I. Initials :—b,, blue sky; c., clouds (detached) ; f., fog. ' • h., hail ; 1.,. lightning ; m., misty (hazy) ; 0., overcast (dull) ; r., ram ; s., snow ; t., thunder. A letter repeated augments—thus, r.r., much rain. S. Sea disturb ance (1 to 9). WIND AND WEATIE Alderney, S. ; cloudy Ayr, S.E. dull Belfast, S.E.; blowingstrong, IR REPORT; FBB. 20. Holyhead, S.W. ; strong breeze and clear Leeds, S.W.; dull Leith, S.E. ; fine Lowestoft, W. ; light fog Manchester, S.W.; fine Middlesborough, N.E. ; fine Milford Haven, S.W. ; blow ing a gale, with rain Newcastle on Tyne, S.E. ; cloudy Newmarket, S.E. •,' fine Norwich, S.E., light ; fine Perth, E. ; fine Peterborough, S. ; fine Southampton,q.S.W.;cloudy Stockton on Tees, W.S.W. ; fine ' Sunderland, S. ; fine Wakefield, S.W. ; fine Weymouth, S.S.W. ; windy Whitehaven, S.E.; cloudy Wolverhampton, E.; fine York, S.E.; fine very wet Birmingham, S.W. • fine Bradford, S.W. ; fins Brighton, S.W. ; dull Bristol ? S. 9 S • dull Combndge,lS.E.; light, clear Cardiff, S. ; unsettled Carlisle, S. ; dull Chatham, W. • fine Deal, calm ; fine Derby, s.w.. dull Dublin, S.S.E. ' • rain Duinfries l _N.E 2; dull Dundee, N. ; fine Edinburgh, S.E. ; very fine , S. ; fine Glasgow, E.N.E. ; fine Goole, S.E. ; fine Gravesend, calm, and. hazy Hartlepool, S.E. ; fine Harwich, W. • dense fog Inverness, S.W. ; fine accompanied by The Queen and Pr ince Consor t , the Prince of Wales and the Princess Alice, honoured the performance at the Adelphi Theatre last evening with their presence. In attendance were Lady Churchill, H on . Caroline Cavendish, Lord Cremorne, Lord Alfred Paget, Lieutenant-Colonel the lion. D. de Ros, and Major Teesdale. . Accounts from Nicaragua menti Yo on k th well e as known sassi nation of Mr. Joseph L. White, of New r, both in the United States and England as one of tthe prin cipal promoters of the Nicaragua Transi t Company. Mr. White was shot i by a fellow-countryman who was engaged in eome rival speculation. A young Arab, named Ahmed Ben Sonidi, who, after serving in the native riflemen of Algeria, took up his residence in Paris, and got his living by acting as agent for the discount of bills, was some time back condemned by the Tribunal of Correctional Police to three months' im prisonment for swindling, in having, in the discount of come bills for a female named Forville, induced her to ac cer4, instead of money, certain securities which he repre sented tv he of value, but which turned out to be worthless. An appeal aganst this condemnation, presented by the man to the Imperial was heard on Saturday; and as he succeeded in satisfying court that he had not given the securities with any fraudulent ru,--ti on , and had even recommended the woman to ascertain for hersvig Value before taking them, the judgment was quashed. • SHARE MARK ET.-(THIS DIY.) ORDINARY SHARES AND STOCKS. Closing paid. 115 117 110 112 104 166 132 131 110 112 70 701 61 64 111 f 1121 62 64 1134 114} 4S 50 904 100 93i 945 105 lla 51 sli Si 2id 132} ISM 14 lip 104 106 7 6d Railways. 3h 13.14 stolk Beitast and liallyinena ,Air., Wol , and Str. Val. Birk., La., and Ch June Blyth and Tyn6 Boat. Slew: and Mid.Co Brim ol and Exeter Caledonian :Carmarthen ,t Cardigan Cork and Bandon 'Cork, iilrock., t.L'assage !Cornwall Do A ` A tvets nU div. unt i ti pc peran. Do B r hasbeen • d. toB Dublin & Belfast -June. Dun., Perth, &A.b.dunc ' East Ancrli an Eastern Counties Eastern Union, A stock Do do B do Do Nw A, late EU3ds East Suffolk Edinburgh Glasgow Edin. Perth, 1.; Dundee Forth.L Clyde Junction - Furness GlasL - r. and S. Western Great Nthn. of Scotland G'reatNorthern Do do A stock Do do It do rlt. S..t W. of Ireland ;Greet Western .. Do Str Val Leta. stock 1 Trish Sonth-eastern T,aneashire It Yorkshire London and BlackwalT Lon., Brioht. &S Coast ; Lond., Chat., and Dover Lend. &Nth. Western Lond. & t , th. Western , L'derry & Coleraine L'elerry & Ennisxillen Man. She'. & Linooln Maryport and Carlisle Do do shares Metropolitan Midland . . Do new Do t!irminz. Derby )11d. Gt. W. of Ireland Do A shares Mid Kent Do, Cray Line Newcastle and Cerlisle Newry Armagh, def Newry, Warnpt. & Ros Norfolk.. ... North British Nor.Dev.Rail&Dk.sto,9z D , A stk ; A reef; no ri. until 6pclias beenpd.B Do 13 stock Nth. Eastern—Berwick Do do , G.N.E. 'purchase Do Leeds ..........., „ Do York .. North London .. .. Do new North Staftbrdshire N. and S. W. Junction, ; ot. &Gra.ntham 1 - zebles Portsmouth ITZhymney.....- Scottish Central IScot N. E., Aber. stock - Do Scot. Mid. stock... !Shropshire Union Sittin t? - bourne & Sheer. South Devon .......... Nt hn. Counties Union S.-Dnrhani & l,anc. Un.. Smith Eastern South Wales S. York. and River Dun Staines, Wok,. and Wok Stockton t Darlington Do do Do New (1860) Taff Vale Do Pref. No I ThrimesHavenPlazßail Ulster .... 100 100 100 16 13 4 100 100 100 r. 174 all stock stock stock all 100 100 100 100 all 100 22} 100 100 100 D 0....... ....... .... Vale of Neath IVictoria Sta. and Pim • Waterford & Kilkenny) Waterford & Limerick West Cornwall West London Do let class all 100 all all all all all S$ SO S 2 64 7 99 101 97i 984 6 61 44 45 S 84 15 16 48 49 37 39 26 28 SR 88 264 20 Business Done. 981 7; 15 481 i 111% : 105: 70} 60; i 70 1111 11 101 64 2 114 49 100 99a a 94a 13!& I P 52 54 644 65 61 3}; 3 102 10241 P 1p 58 59 int oi 101 103 bo 2d claßs IWestHartlepool Harbr and Rail West Midland—Oxford Do. Newport, Do. Hereford, 3i 3 to JO, 8 si 114 116 335 .345 86 88 49 51 55 65 39 41 86 861- 60 62 80 100 4 7 41 42 10.3 114 0 6 6i p 5.61 56h 2 t 67 69 11 5i 61 45 47 41 43 82 84 PREFERENCE SHARES. Closing Business Share! Railways. Paid i Price. Done. , ftlythe and Tyne 10 per' c. pref. (issued at £s l ', , sris. & Exet.4 p.ct.stock Do. do. do. Shares Caledon .£10,41 percent' Do. Quar. Shares, No. 2. 1 Cork & Bandon, 51- p. c. Cornwall. 5 per cent Dun.Perth&Aber.Jun Do let Class Pref RAnem.Class A 7 &sp.e ! Do. do. Class B (I p.c.. „ I Do. do. Class C 7 p.c E. Coun. Ex. 5 p. c. No.l Do. dn. No. 2 Do. New 6 per et. stock. Eastern Union, 4 per ct. Do. 5 per cent. guar... Edin.&Glas. sp.c. shares Do. 4 p. c gins. S. & D. Edin. Perth& Dun. 4 p.c. Furness, 5 per cent .... ( - 41.att.& S. West.g.a. 5 p.c. 'Greht Northern, 5 p. ct. Po.sp.c.Redm., 10 p.c.pm Do. 4A p. c. do. do. Do. sp.c. Redm. 5 p.c. pm Gt. Nh. of Scotld. tst pf Gt. Sn. & W (Ireland) 4 ? p. ct. pref. stock Great West. (Perks and Haute) Ext. 5 p. et Co. Bedeemable,4l p.ct. Do. Redeemable, 4 p. ct. Do Irredeemable, do Do. 5 p.ct. Redeem. PM Do. Birm. Pref. Shares. rlt. W. Ches. 8 p.c. pf.sh. Do. do. 5 p. ct. pref Do Birnw.cruar. stock Do. Chester gua. shares Do. do. do. Do. do. do. Lan. & Carl. 4i p c. pref. f.an.&York 6 p. c. stock. Do. riarnsl.st.£s3s 10d pc Do. 6 per c. (E. Lan.) Lon.. Brig. 5 pc.gu. No 1 Do. 5 p. c No. 2 Do. gue. 6 p. C. Do. do. 5 p.c. No. 4 Do. do. 41 per cell'. Do. do. 41 p. c. shares Do. 7 p. ct. Pref. stock Do. 6p.c. do. (W.E.&C.P ' Do.4p.c.S.(div.def.til '6s' Do. 4 per cent. Pref lon. Chat. and Dover Do.W. A rceiv. no div. Ex.A tilap cispd on, no. B B. & Brom ex. 1 Do. Metropolitan Ex It' Lon. and N.W. Cov. and Nuneaton. 5 p. ct. Lon. & S.W, 7 p. et. stock Do. 4A per cent Do. (Prtsm. perpl anns 1 of 2s. 6d. . Londondy. & Cole. i sh Londony. & Ennis. sh Sian. Sh. &Lin. 6 per ct Do. £6 stock stock stock s tock stock stock itock 261 104 ; 1 21 P 89; 901 891 ; sai 1 Si f stock stock stock stock stock stock stock stock an 1100 stock stock stock stock stock 10 stock stock stock 2s. 6d 12 121 stock [OO 102 Do. 34 per cent Do. redeem. 6 per cent llaryoort & Car., 4 p. c Do. 44 per cent. Mid. Con. 6 p C. stock Do.Con.Bris. & Bir. 6 p.c. Do. 41 p. o. pref. stock Do. with option till 1860 Do. Let. & Hit. pref. st. Norfik sp. c. Ex. st. 1846 Do. 51 p. c. Pref. do. 1847 Do.sWay.Val.Ex.stlB47 North British, 5 p. a Do. New, gua. 5 p. o Do. Bor. Tin. g. pt. she Do. do. do Nth.Dev.Rall. & Dck.Co. N-East.Cons.Pref. 4 p. c. Do. 41 p c. redeemable.. Do. Ber*lck, 4 p.c. Prof. Do. do. do Do. Leeds, 6 p. e. No. 1 Do. do. Quarters, 1848 Do. York, •.& S. Purch North Staffordshire.. Rhymney Guaranteed Scottish Central, new pt Scottish North-Eastern 31 p. c. pref. stock stock Do.Aberdeen,gua.6p.c. stock Do. 7p. c. pref. stook 10s, South Devon, Ann. 10s. 10 Do. Fixed 41 per cent. 1.0.6 South Eastern (Reading Ann., 1.0.6) stock Do. 41 per cent. stock Do. Fixed I4p.c. Ist is. stock youth Wales, gua. 4 p.c. stook Do. 41 per cent stock Do. 5 per cent: stock S.-Yorkshire, 4 p. c. gua. 25 Stock. & Dar. A 5 p. 25 Do. B 6 tiler cent 25 Do. C 6 per cent.— stock Watrfd & Kilkny, 6p. stock W.Mid -Oxf Ist Gua stock Do. 2d do stock Do. Newport 5 p.c.pf.red. stock Do.Perpet. 6p. a. pf 1866 stock Do. till 1869, Ist is. 121 Do. do. 2d is. stock 12; 12 stock stock stock stock stock stock stock stock stock 101 10 stock stock stock stock stock 20 21 6 6f 99 101 112 115 1N 108 110 112 108 110 124 126 76 80 100 100 100 all all 101 i 104 126 f LINES LEASED AT FIXED RENTALS. Railways. I , , ao. i Leasing \ Closing 1 Business ' 1 Co.'s. Prioe. Done. Bedford and illetch ley i all `Ln &N:Vir in.. .. 1 Backingh.shire ....I 100 Ln &N.W 97 99 Chester & Holyhead..; 100 Do. 53 531 Do. do. 5} per cent. ) 100 Do 122 124 Do. do. 5 per cent , 100 Do. 110 112 Clydesdale Junction.. 100 jCaledonin 101 103 Colchester, Stour Val. all E.U.&E C, 16 17 E.Lincolnsliirea.6 p.c. ICO Gt. North. 135 137 E.Union,Hdrwich Shs all E.Counts. 41 41 Do. Woodbridge . . 100 i crl Barn& Neils,Dra. 100 IC4,ledonin I". New ... .... 100 IDo. ..... . Gloster& Dean . I , ` , ‘rest all ;Gt. West. Hartlpool.Dck.& Rail. all IYk.INT.&Br Hull and Selby ...... all IYk.N. Md. i Do. Shares ......, ajl .Do. Do. Shales ....: .. all IDo. .. ..• • Lanc.& Carl, gua.s p.c. 100 :Ln.,.tN.IV London & Greenwich 100 S. East... Do. Preference ..... 100 ;Do. Lon.,Tilby.& Soutend. 100 'Peto &Co Lowestoft, g - ua. 4 p.ct. 100 'Norfolk Do. 6 per cent .. . ~ 100 ID o . Manc.,Buxtn. & Malk. all IL NW&M Midland Mid. Bradford Prefer- Ne egu win neaer a al r t k 7 t e . ek ,B (.l. u .s r . y .p l -..c;c: i 5 1 . 0 : 6 i E.Counts Northn./c Eastn. 5 p.c. all D 0.... Do. do. 6 per cent .... all Do .. • Do. Fixed 5 per cent. all IDo. • North Western l a oo ll ( D 4t o . . N . 0 .. r . th. 1 all iMidland F r eston and Wyre. 1 all I t sz 4 L N .y W k. } ROyStll.l4l . Hereford' 100 . T.B ' rasseyi Sltrewsbry& Her Do. 1 Do. , &Sh A ep . l I gilts and Somerset lOO -Gi-t. West. I Do. 1 Shar . e te s ti Wiaivv.ioniz Croydn. all 14.103ren South Staffordshire .. all IM'Clean.. 3i 31 3it I 97 99 i i P 56 53 15i 16 122 13t 'lO4 106 11 11i p 90 92 8 i 9i 81 9 [l2 114 90 92 .17 119 12 114 [O4 106 84 86 98 100 99 101 89 91 90 92 101 103 10 10} 174 18i lei 11 76 78 204 21i 10% 101 15% 16 135 137 112 115 112 115 135 140 112 115 101 103 150 153 128 131 170 73 88 89 116 116 150 155 131 14i 123 130 70 72 I 134 136 102 104 95 97 111 113 109 111 & la I 90 92 100 102 100 108 i II) }dip 22 23 132 134 14 11 23 24 91 93 1 100 102 87 90 27 28 22 33 32 33 45 48 125 127 120 124 101 103 123 126 116 120 1109 111 207 210 61 63 115 100 88 n THE, SUN, LONDON, iiRITISR POSSESSIONS. Railways. Paid Closing Price. 74 77' 92 03 16 161 d 41d1 all all all 100 6 7 75 80 65 70 65 70 i pr Business done 92i 2 Atlantic & St Lawrence, Born., Barodait.Cent Ind Gu. 5 per cent... Do, Do. Buffalo and Lake lluronl Do. New Do. Preference nuffalo,Brant,S;(uclricl: p. ct. bdB. Aug. 1, 1872 Do. do. July 1. 1873 Do. do. June 1, P•5:4 Clcutta.ctS.Eastn. (Lim Cape,Eastn.Prov. Cape Town & Dock Scrip Ceylon Guarantd. 6 p. c Demerara Instn. Bengal gu. 5 p. !East Indian, gu. 5 p. c. Do. F Shares Ext Do. Jubbulpore Do. 41 p c. Debentrs Do. 5 p. c. Deb., 1864 Do. 180-1876 ' Grand Trunk of Canada Do. 6 per cent. Pref.. Do. 2d Pref. 6 per et.. Do. 6per et. Debentr. Do. 7 per cent. 1862 Do. do. 1867 Do. do. 1872 'Gt.lndiaPenin.gua.sp.c. Do. New gua. 5 p. c...' t. Soutb.offndia (Lim) guaranteed 5 per cent. Do. do. I IGt. - IV of Canada Sharesl Do. New .. Do. Bonds pay. '76, with opt, till '6O Do. do. '73 till '6O Do. do. '73 without opt. Do. 51 p. c. do. '77 d 0... Do. 54 p. c. do. '7B d 0... Madras, guar., 41 p. c... Do. do. 5 per cent..... Do. 4 4 p. a Extension Do. Fourth d 0........ Meib.Corp. 6 p. o. Bnds.l Newßranswiek x Candal Ry.,tLand(Lim.)g.6pci , Class A Capital Share Do. do. Land i Do. do. B Capital do. .. IDo. do. Land do. ...... lOude (Limited) ........, f Scinde ......... ,:l . ..z Do. Pun,jaub .... 4 g Do. Du. ........ ea ? Do. Indus. St. Flo. _?t Trinidad (Lim.) Scrip.. FOREIGN Antwerp & Rotterdam Ardenne5............ .• Ball.&S.Fran.•Lim.7 p.c. Belgian East. Junction , Bezters to Graissessac.. Ca , " - neaux Mine lz Rail Copiapo Ditto Extension .... Dutch Rhenish ........ Eastern of France .... Grand Rus. Guar. 6 p. c. Do. do. - Great Central of Franoe ,G t. Luxem., Con. shs... Italian Junction .... • • Lierre & Turnhout .... Lyons & Geneva. Namur & Liege Do. 6 p. c. Pref. ........ Northern of France.... Do. New Shares ..... Norwegian Trunk Pref. Paris,Lyons, & Mediter. , Paris & 0r1ean5........ Recife & S. Fran. (Pern.) gua. 7 . Ct. lim Riga & lJunaburg...... Royal Dani5h.......... `Royal Swedish ..... Do. 7 per cent. Pref.... Sambre & Meuse ...... Do. 5i per cent. Pref..... 'San Paulo, lim, g. 7 p. c.( S.Aust.&Lomb Venetin 'Southern of France S. East Portugal 7 p ct. 'West Flanders ........ Do. 51 p. c. Preference.. W. & N. W. of France .. West'rn of Austria.... IVesttrn of Switzerland Wiesbaden . po. 8 per cent Pref Kealand .. 11 li t d i pr 11 lid 98 99 97 99 100 101 21f 221 73 75 CO 63 44 46 50 55 42 47 42 47 95. 96 lid 1 d 2 II d 11* 1I 9* 9} a 93 96 93 96 94 97 89 n 82 B 4 92 93 • 85 87 2 1f 6 7 5 7 97 98 2d 111 —d 90 92 t Id ,ATLWAYS. q 52 - -P I* * 114, 111 12 13 3 21.1 3 23 24 7 s 19 20 374 384 8 9 36i 87i 55 57 3 2&d S 4 51 8k Al If Id 11 l i d 20&21f 5f 6 91 9f 21a 22 BRITISH MINES. A - fired Consols l Millack.ll.lo l ' 20 !British Iron , 16 Clifford nil Devon' G. Cons. (Tavist ) 1 1 ,East Bassett (Illog - an) 3O 'East Caradon i IE. WI 'Russel (Tavistk )1 7.4.0 'Gam.&St.Aubyn(Gwen J 1 541 Great South Tolgus l7s U. Wheal Alfd. (Philaek)! 13.9.61 G. Wheal Vor (Helston) 9/ Grenville 5.14.0' ,Herod's- Foot ! 8.12 Hingston Downs 4.10.6' - Lady Bertha I 1.8.6 Margaret (tiny Lelant), North Downs ! 21 North Frances (Illogan)1 11/ — Basset (1110 ;an) 1 I North Wheal Crotty ! 9.18.9 Par Consols (,St. Blazey)! 1/ 20 'Providence (Uny Lelnt.). 10.6.7 Surtridge Cons. Min. Co., 11s South Caradon(St.Cleer), 11 S. Cain Brea (Illogan) 1 1 S. Dev. Iron &G en., Lim.' all , S.Wheal Fran. (Illogan)118.1Q,9, Stray Park 24.8.0 5 Tamar Sily.& Lead Min. 41 10 Tin Croft , 9 Vale of Towey (Carm ) A3s 6d West Basset (Illogan) „ 1/ W. Caradon (Liskeard)' 5 West Seton Wheal Basset (Illogan)! 5f - Wheal Buller (Redruthy Wheal Edward (Calve. - , 'Wheal Kitty (U.Lelant: Wheal Mary Ann (Men. Wheal Trelawney_SLis. 13 6 71 81 91 1 48 45 i I 300 310 3} 31 Iss 190 38 40 2 21 5/ 6 17 18 80 82 345 355 11024 1074 ,140 150 2 24 12 13 18 20 11 13 81i 2 7.5 1.7.2 -- E NE „. FOREIGN' MINEB. 20 l Australian 1 IBonAccord Copper,Lim 17.6 d 8 # , 20 Brazil St.J.del Rey,Lim 15 314 321 5 Do. Land and Mining Co. all 1 Clarendon Cons.MinCo. die. 40 Cobre Copper al l 4O 42 Copiapo 1 DunMoun.Copiding 00 ail ft 1 2 Fortuna. all 21 21 20 'General all 20 22 2 Gt N. Cop. of S. Austr lpr 5p 14 Kapunda (Limited) 1 14 14 p 3 Linares all 9 10 5 Lusitanian 2 pr 4p 1 MariqUita all # 1 N.RhineCopofS.Aus.L 7.6 d. 4 Id 20 Pontg,ibaud Silver,Lead Mining and Smelt all 4 6 5 Port Philip 1 1 Scottish A ustrin. (L.) los. I 4 I 28'2'81 United Mexican . 1 Worthing ( Limite d) all t 4 1 De. l9s. JOINT-STOCK BANKS. ../lIWP 100 Agra&UnitedService Bk 30 83 .E 6 40 Australasia all 67 70 69 4 81 25 Bank of Egypt all 181 19 1 100 Bank of London 20 Bank of Turkey 3 14 15 14 50 British North American all 20 Chtd.Bank of India, &c. all 201 21 201 1 25 Ch.3ler. of In. Lon.& Ch. all 100 City 100 IColonial 26 38 39 20'11 'Com. Bank of Canada.. all 100 ' Commercial of London. 20 20 , Eng., Scot., & Ans. Ch.. all 154 16 20 Gen. Bk .of Switzerland all 20 I Lon. Char.Bkof Austral all 224 234 23 50 London and County .. 20 344 354 50 ILondon Joint Stock .. 10 20 ILondon and S.Airican.. 4 it 15 55 100 Londen & Westminster 20 614 625 614 4 100 Nat. Prov. of England . 42 20 jDo. new l2 -- -- 50 ; National Bank ........ 25 20 'New South Wa1e5...... all 25 I Orient. B. Corporation . all 47 48 484 20 Ottoman Bank . 100 Provincial of Ireland - ' 10 Do. new all 25 South Australia 25 Union of Australia 50 Union 01 London l2 24 25 245 4 4 109 Unity Mutual.... , COLONIAL GOVERNMENT SECURITIES. Can. Gov. 6 p.c.Ja. & July 100 10 114 Do. 6p. cent. 1879 100 - - Do. 6p. cent 1880 100 - - Do. op. cent. 1884 100 - - Do. 6p. o. Feb. & Aug. 100 :07 109 Do. 6p. c. Mar. & Sept. 100 [lO 112 Do. 5 per cent lOO lOC/ 1015 101 4 Cape G.Hope, 6p c,lBBO 100 107 108 Do. 1890 100 1074 1081 N.B.G ov. 6 p.c. Ja,&July 100 1054 1061 106 Do. 6p. c. Ap. & Oct. 100 N. S. W. Gov. sp. c., 1866 100 96 98 Do. sp. 0., 1871 to 187( 100 96 58 Do. 5 p.c.,1888 & upwds 100 901 974 Nova Scotia Gov. 6p. c sterling, 1875 ' 100 1054 1064 S.Aus.Gt 6 p. 0.1878 &up 100 - - Vic. Gov. 6 p.c. Ja. &July 100 - - Do. do. 6 p.c. Ap.&oot 100 107 108 1074 4 DOOKS. _ stock Commercial lOO stock Do. 4 per CentPref.3lin. 100 stock East and West India . 100 1194 stock London stock St. Katharine.. lOO 60,; stock Southampton lOO stock ' Victoria .. ........ Commercial Do. 4 per Cent.Pret.llin East and West India London St. Katharine.. Southampton Victoria ........ ID 100 100 I`,lo 100 100 100 100 2 98 100 id par NIISCELIANEOUS. lAnglo-Mexican Mint ;Atlantic R. MI Stm (1d) 'Atlantic Tel. (Limited) Australian Agricultural Berlin Water (Limited) ritish American Land B.&l.Mag. Tel. A. (Lim.) Do. 8,7p.c.ti111852 (Lim.) too. C. (Limited) Canada Land Chan.lsl ands Tel. (Lim ) Cop.Min.ofEng&Srultg Do. Pref. 7 per cent Crystal Palace Do. 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Co.ofUpr.Can.l Yan Diemen's totud all all 158. 8 100 all 131 HI 29 31 4t 4t 35 37 18 20 13 15 113 117 23} 2 , 1 1 301 31 1101 1(3 id par e 97 101 3,1 3$ 1 I 100 all all all all 5 28 i 1 11 1 24 3% la lid 1 Old i 1 1 1 3 -1 hr 47 A) 70 72 11 12 17 2 154 17 19 5 6 4S 50 120 130 32 34 6 1 ) 9J 10 2 I 190 200 390 400 10.5 110 14 in 6 61 22 24 76 8 I 1 24 3 1! 34 36 2 2} I; 60 62 3i 4 35 45 stock 131 981 9 81 951 ci 901 161 111 11 ElOO 10 all 100 1 !WEDNESDAY `A - EVENING, FEBRUARY 20, 1861. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. neglected a great and important duty. As to piracy, the Chinese flag was not protected as it ought to be ; but the British Government had done its best to suppress it, as would be seen from the accounts which from time to time appeared in the papers of the gallant exploits performed in its suppression. No doubt the Treaty of Nankin led to the present treaty, which was an extension of it. There were many difficulties connected with our dealings with the Chinese, as there always would be when barbarism and civilisation came into contact. The only way for us to be at' peace with Asiatics was to keep away from them. (Laughter.) This was true of Turkey, China, and Japan. The fact was, that the Chinese Government brought the war upon itself by its treachery and continued insincerity. (Hear, hear.) If we submitted to the insults and evasions of Asiatics, they would gradually increase ; we must there fore enforce directly the observance of treaties entered into with us. He quite admitted that when those treaties were enforced, they shook the fabric of the Government of China; but what was to be done? (Hear.) If the strict observance of treaties were not enforced, we could not have intercourse with China at all. It seemed impossible for us to have intercourse with Asiatics without quarrelling. (Hear and laughter.) If we once rave way we were sure to be beaten by the wiles of Asiatic diplomacy, and then we had to cut the Gordian knot with the sword. His noble friend had drawn a lamentable picture of the condition of China, and he regretted to say that it was not less lamentable than true. As to the rebellions not having occurred before, or lasted so long, the fault was that they had several times occurred before in the recorded history of China, and had lasted so long as twenty or thirty years at a time. There was nothing new, therefore, in that respect of the present state of China. As to the oourse pur sued at Shanghae, our authorities did perfectly right to dc fend the lives and properties of our fellow-countrymen, and he could not see what else they could have done under the circumstances than that which they had done. (Hear.) There was, at the same time, not the slightest intention on the part of her Majesty's Government to interfere with the civil commotions now raging in China—(hear, hear)—but whenever our fellow-countrymen were menaced we should always protect them. His noble friend said we were likely to have the same troubles in Japan as in China. We, however, had shown no disposition to quarrel with Japan; we had raised no frivolous grievances, and though we had kept at peace thus far, owing largely to the judg ment of Mr. Allcock—(hear)—he must say that we had not met with that good will which his noble friend as cribed to the Japanese, but with all the distrust and chi canery of an Asiatic Government. His noble friend justly eulogised the conduct of Lord Elgin, but was not willing to accept his treaty. With regard to the indemnity, he could not help regarding it as moderate under the circum stances—and more moderate than any demand ever made under similar circumstances by one Government upon another. Again, we had in our attack directed ourselves as far as possible upon the central Government of China. The general conduct of our troops was excellent, and the attack upon the Summer Palace was amply justified. The loss of life was comparatively small, and war had seldom been carried on with less distress and injury on our part, while the general conduct of the Chinese Government was any thing but calculated to raise that Government in our esti mation, it was barbarous ; and yet we did not impose upon them a single additional condition. He should not follow the noble earl into his general remarks further than to say that he did not believe her Majesty's Government could have pursued any other course than that which they had adopted. (Hear.) The Government of China was emi nently a Government of centralisation. They would find in the despatches that when Mr. Bruce spoke to Prince Rung of the events at Shanghae, and of our policy, he treated the matter as one of which he was altogether igno rant, thanking Mr. Bruce for having given him the infor mation. The communication of Prince Kung to Lord Elgin and Mr. Brute showed that if the Chinese Govern ment could be enlightened as to the state of its coast pro vinces, it would in all probability pursue a sound and wise policy in its relations with us. There was also a curious document in which the Lieutenant-Governor of Shanghae gave an account to the Emperor of the attack of the rebels on that place. In that report not a word was said of the assistance he had received from the European forces. He declared that the repulse was entirely due to the local troops, who all ran away at the outset. (Hear, and laughter.) And in reply the Central Government stated that they had given a red button to this man and a white button to the other. (Continued laughter.) If the Cen tral Government were so weak that no influence could be brought upon it to enforce an observance of the condition of the treaty, and if ruin should eventually come upon the Government of Pekin, our relations with China might be thrown into a state of great confusion. What he maintained was, that in going to Pekin and concluding that moderate treaty, they had made a wise, just, and righteous effort to prevent the evils they had been discussing; and as they would be careful to observe its conditions in good faith, should those efforts fail, the responsibility I would fall, not on themselves, but on the Chinese authori ties. (Hear, hear.) The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH said he was willing to allow that debate to come to a termination without express ing his entire concurrence in everything that had fallen from his noble friend who had just spoken. Ho thought the rumoured intention of sending an expedition up the Yang-tso-Kimag was one of the most important subjects that could occupy the attention of the Government. If we were permitted to go up the river by the Government, and should be fired upon by the banditti—for they were nothing but banditti who thus placed obstacles in our way—we should be justified in using arms to remove any obstruction we might find in our path. We might in that incidental manner materially assist in restoring the authority of the Chinese Government, by putting an end to the combination of miscreants who desolated the empire, and who added the prime of blasphemy to the violation of women and the destruction of men in their works. Only in that way could we hope to make any atone ment for the misery we had brought upon China, and the outrages on humanity which had marked our conduct in that part of the world. (Hear, hear.) After some remarks from Lord GREY in reply, the motion was agreed to. HOUSE OF LORDS.—(YESTERDAY.) The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack it five o'clock. THE INDIAN ARMY. Lord WYNFORD asked the noble lord opposite (Earl De grey), with reference to the recent changes in the orga nisation of the Indian army, whether officers, when they received an appointment tc the staff corps in India, would proceed immediately to take up their position in the army, so that promotion might go on rapidly from the regiments from which they had been withdrawn ? Earl 1)E GREY said that, without being in a position to explain the whole of the arrangements contemplated, it had been decided that, whereas under the system existing pre vious to the proposed changes, officers appointed to the staff corps had been left on the roll of their regiments, the same course would be, for the present, adopted, and such opportunity would nct be considered to create regi mental vacancies. CHURCH RATES. The Duke of MARLBOROUGH gave notice that on Friday next he should introduce a bill to amend the law re lating to Church Rates. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The following bills were read a second time :—Aloa Rail way, Bonelli's Electric Telegraph, Clitheroe Gas, Corn wall Railway, Dewsbury and Batley Gas; Dumfries, Loch maben, and Lockerby Junction Railway (Deviation) ; Dum blane, Doune, and Callendar Railway ; Edinburgh, Perth, and Dundee; Grand Junction Water; Kinross-shire Rail. way, North British and Peebles Railway, Portsea Gas, South Essex Water, Southwark and Vauxhall Water, &c. INDICTABLE OFFENCES (METROPOLITAN DIS TRICTS) BILL. This bill passed through committee. FICTITIOUS SAVINGS' BANKS. This bill also passed through committee. CONSTRUCTIVE NOTICES BILL. This bill passed through committee. THE WAR IN CHINA. Earl GREY rose to move that an humble address be presented to her Majesty for copies or extracts of any despatches received by her Majesty's Government explain ing the objects of an expedition reported to have been ordered to proceed up the Yang-tze-kiang, and to call the attention of the house to the papers relating to China laid before it by the command of her Majesty. He said, in moving for the papers mentioned, he had no intention of pressing for them if the Government opposed the motion for their production. His great object was to bring the subject of China before their lordships fer discussion, and had any other noble lord in timated that he intended to bring the subject forward he should not have taken upon himself to do so. He did not propose to dilate upon the disasters at the mouth of the Peiho, nor upon the events which might have happened had that catastrophe been avoided, but what he wished to do was to call attention to the present condition of our relations with China, and in acquiting himself of the task it would be necessary, for him to look back on the history of our past intercourse with China. When China was originally opened to our commerce, the spur given to trade was great, though not so great as had been expected. In the beginning of his remarks he must say that he considered the Eng- lish Government had no . : more right to interfere with the regulations of trade laid down in China, any more than it had to interfere with those of France or Spain. , For a time all things went on quietly, but at last a circumstance occurred by which we considered ourselves justified in forcing a change, and by farce and corruption we re-established a large smuggling trade in :opium. At the conclusion of the Chinese war large concessions had to be made by the Chinese, and as we had completely subdued them, they had to accept auy terms that might be dictated to them. In consequence of the large concessions that had been obtained by treaty, traffic in opium had been resumed, and ever since it had been re garded as a regular article of commerce by the Bri tish Government. The whole of the trade of China became in consequence demoralised, and no attempt to correct abuses was made, but, on the contrary, the consuls ♦ied with each other in their efforts to impose their frauds on the Chinese Government. But a much worse trade had sprung up, he referred to the trade in Coolies. The Coolie trade had been vigorously carried on, and a system of gambling had been carries to an extent that many unfortunate Coolies had gambled away their liberty. In one case a widow was possessed of two children ; the son gambled away his liberty, and the mother, anxious to redeem her son, actually sold her other child, a daughter; but when she went to release her boy she found he had been shipped to a European colony. Lord Grey then endeavoured to prove that our policy in China had injuriously affected our pecuniary interests, argu ing that the state of anarchy and rebellion, which checked all internal commerce and communication in China, and the smuggling and piracy on her coasts, dated from the treaty of Nankin and the opium war. Judging from the past, he said it was impossible not t 9 perceive that the re cent treaty exacted by Lord Elgin was a further step in the wrong curection, and would produce like results. At the conclusion of the, opium war, when the Chinese resources were unimpaired, we had required only £3,000,000, but now, after a long rebellion and a costly war, we asked £5,300,000. How was this sum to be paid without weak ening the Chinese Government so much that the empire must at last collapse—a result by no means desirable even from a low point of view, that of interest ? The object of the expedition up the Yang-tae was to overawe the rebels, but in doing so the Government would be trying to stop abuses which they themselves had fostered, and he warned them that their efforts would be useless unless they were prepared to maintain a large and permanent military force in China. The treaty which had been concluded with China by Lord Elgin contained the germs of future difficulties, and he feared of future wars; and he begged their lordships to consider the matter seri ously, the more so as the same events were likely to take place in Japan, where similar abuses existed. This country. he asserted, might, had a different policy been pursued, have obtained, without war or violence, the means of car rying on a large and profitable commerce with China. As it was, we had inflicted the horrors of war on the Chinese at an enormous expense to ourselves, and left our trade on even a more precarious footing than it was before. In con clusion he expressed his regret that we had not, before act • ing in conjunction with the French, ascertained whether the French grievance was a just one. Lord WODEHOUSE said he would offer some remarks upon certain portions of the noble earl's speech ; and, first, he would observe that he had no objection to the production of the papers moved for, and to lay them,*or extracts from them, upon the table of their lordships' house. As to any in terference on the part of this country in the insurrection in China, Lord Elgin had said that he would not at all inter fere in the quarrel that was going on between • the insur gents and the Imperial Government, except for the purpose of making arrangements with regard to trade. That inti mation had been conveyed to the Imperial Government, and no objection had been made to Lord Elgin doing so. With reference to what the noble earl had said about Wee Treaty of Nankin in 1842, he must say that the noble earl had given an exaggerated statement of the conse quences, and had not taken into account the difficulties they had to contend with, for the Government of this country had done their best to carry out the provisions of that treaty in a proper spirit. The first point in the Treaty of Nankin was with reference to the question of opium. Practically it was inevitable that the opium traffic must be carried on in China, and he believed that the regulations under which it was now legalised were the best that could be framed. As to the customs duties, that was a very embarrassing question. We were bound by the Treaty of Nankin to assist the Chinese Government in enforcing the duties payable by our merchants ; whereas other nations would undertake no such obligations, and the consequence was that a system of inequality was established, which became intolerable. Unscrupulous men evaded the pay . ment of the duty, whilst honest English merchants paid it, and were thereby placed in a position in which they could not carry on their trade with advantage. We therefore took measures, first at Shanghae, and afterwards at other ports, by means of the foreign inspectorships, to enforce the payment of these duties, the collection of which was superintended by Chinese officials net in any way depen - dent upon foreign Governments. Under these regulations, as Mr. Bruce had pointed out, the Chinese Government had received no less a sum than a million pounds sterling. As to the noble earl's charge, that our consular establish ment had not done their duty previous to the establishment of these inspectorships, he quoted from a despatch from Mr. Bruce, in which that gentleman stated that " Her Majesty's consuls had omitted no effort to insure thepaTment of these duties by imposing fines upon British merchants who omitted to do so—a system by which he incurred the odium of our fellow-countrymen by inflicting penalties on them to which the subjects of other Governments were not liable." (Hear.) Moro than this we could not do. We could not make the Chinese Government strong and incorrupt. (Hear.) He agreed with the noble earl as to the iniquities of the emigration system, but the Government had done what it could to put an end to the system of kidnapping which was going on, and which was gradually irritating the Chinese population against us, and their efforts had not been without some success. Mr. Austin, a gentleman well ac quainted with emigration to the West Indies, was sent out, and under his judicious superintendence an excellent sys tem had been organised. This system secured the confi dence of the population, and whole families now emigrated, including some 300 or 400 women, who never before could be got to emigrate at all. These women were moreover of the respectable class. All this was done, not merely with the approbation of the people, but with the full consent of the Chinese authorities, and an end was put to the systematic kidnapping. The Government should be extended to other ports than Canton, and with that view had communicated with other European Governments, and with the Govern ment of the United States. This was one of the most im portant points of the Chinese question, and should there be any Government refusing to co-operate with us he must say that a grave responsibility would rest upon it for having THE CASE qF MR. TURNBULL. The Earl of SHAFT ESBURY moved for a copy of the memorial presented by the Protestant Alliance to the Foreign Secretary. The noble earl said that the noble mar quis (Normanby) came down to make a motion on this sub ject, and he (the Earl of Shaftesbury) attended in his place in order to give him his answer. The noble marquis, how ever, had put his motion off indefinitely; and as he (the Earl of Shaftesbury) felt, as the president of the Protestant Alliance, that he was under some personal charge in refer ence to this matter, he was led to take the earliest opportu nity of stating tha grounds upon which that body was acting. First, they were charged with circulating the memorial secretly, whereas he could show that a copy was sent to Sir John Romilly as soon as it were issued. Then it was said that they had charged Mr. Turnbull with having tampered with the public records entrusted to him. They never made such a charge, and he defied any one to put his finger on the passage where it occurred. The third accusation was that they took that course because Mr. Turnbull was a Roman Catholic. He denied that it was so. With the views they had, and the principles they proceeded upon, they would have felt it their duty equally to proceed against a Protestant. He hoped the noble marquis would state, as soon as possible, what were the precise charges he had to make against the Protestant Alliance and himself. (Hear, hear.) The Marquis of NORMANBY said that the indignation exhibited by the noble earl was perfectly unfounded. He told the noble earl that he did not intend to bring forward the charge, and he told him why he had delayed it ; namely, first, because he thought it better, in the interests of jus tice, that an appeal should first be made to the Prime Minis ter, to see whether he, acting under the inspiration of the noble earl and of the Protestant Alliance, would disregard the remonstrance of the high legal functionary who had expressed his sense of the eminent qualities possessed by Mr. Turnbull; that that gentleman, so admirably fitted for the duties of the office to which he had been appointed, should be removed from it on the mere ex parte statements of the Protestant Alliance. One word as to what had passed within the last two days. lie accused the Protes tant Alliance, on the testimony of the noble earl himself, of having published that which they must have known to be a misstatement. They published in their monthly state ment these words :—" That Mr. Turnbull was engaged in writing the religious history of the reign of Queen Mary." Now, that was distinctly a false statement, and it was ad mitted to be so by the noble earl himself, as appeared from his confession in the public journals of that morning. The noble earl, however, need be under no apprehension that he did not mean to bring forward those charges, for it was im portant that it should be known whether a person, because he was supposed to entertain strong religious opinions, should be prevented from fulfilling a duty for which he was in every respect so peculiarly qualified. lie could not, however, fix a day at present. (Hear, hear.) The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH said that if there was to be a discussion on this subject it would be a con venience to himself, and perhaps to other noble lords, if the noble earl would produce some paper or document, or if some papers were laid upon the table telling them what the Protestant Alliance was. (Laughter.) He never heard of it until that case had come before the public. The noble earl represented that great Alliance in that house, which had kindly undertaken the protection of the Protestant re ligion. (Renewed laughter.) He was greatly indebted to them for their good intentions, but whether or not that was a matter of practical advantage ; he was desirous to knew what they were, who constituted them , and what they were to expect from them. (Cheers.) When the noble earl was asked to state the grounds of his charge against this unfor tunate gentleman, his answer was that he ma no de no attack was upon his personal character. Well , then, if attack made upon his personal character, it came to this—that a man who had been selected by the Master of the Rolls for his ability, and because he was eminently suited for a par ticular employment, was to be driven out of that employ ment because he was a pious Roman Catholic. If that was the ground on which those proceadings had been taken, he must say that though he was a Protestant as well as the noble earl, he could not concur in the course adopted. k The Marquis of NQIIMANDY said he would consult his 36 i 1% 171 noble friends opposite as to the day when it would be least inconvenient to the Government to bring on the question. After a brief conversation, it was understood that Tues day was named as the day for bringing on the subject. Their lordship ;hen adjourned, HOUSE OF COMMONS.—(YESTERDAY.) The SPEAKER took the chair at fcur o'clock. NEW MEMBER. Mr. BARNES took the oaths and his seat for Bolton. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The standing orders were reported to have been complied with in the case of several railway and other bills. The following bills were read a second time :—Colc ford, Monmouth, Usk, and Pontypool Railway; Dowsbury, Batley, Gomersal, and Bradford Railway; Elland Gas; Exeter and Exmouth Railway ; Galashiels and Peebles Railway ; Hawick Police and Improvement; Kingstown Improvement; Mid dleton Improvement; Oldham, Ashton-under-Lyne, &c., Junction Railway; Tonge Improvement; Universal Pri vate Telegraph Company ; and Wexford Harbour Com missioners. STREET RAILWAY COMPANY BILL. On the motion of Mr. CHILDERS the second reading Of this bill was postponed for a week, in order to enable the promoters to consider whether it should be dealt with as a private or a public measure, as it affected the country generally. COMMITTEE OF SELECTION. The members to serve on this committee were sworn, and the committee will sit at 3 o'clock on Thursday next. PETITIONS. Some petitions were presented against the unconditional abolition of the church rates, against parochial assessment, against the sale of intoxicating liquors in the provinces at certain hours on Sundays, from Huddersfield for the ap pointment of Roman Catholic chaplains in workhouses, for a reform of the Established Church, for the passing of a Reform Bill without delay, &c., &c. THE SHIP CROCODILE. Mr. W. WILLIAMS moved for a return of the amount expended on her Majesty's ship Crocodile, stationed off the Tower ; stating the amount for repairs ; the number of officers and their rank ; the number of the crew employed ; the number of men enlisted for the navy, and the total amount of expenditure on the said ship in each of the years 1858, 1859, and 1860.—Ordered. EAST INDIA (ARMY). Colonel SYKES moved for address for returns, regi mentally, of officers of the line who proceeded to India with their regiments between the Ist day of May, 1857, to the Ist day of January, 1861 :—Of the number of those who re mained in India up to the latest return received ; of the amount of pasage money paid annually on the outward voyage to India for officers : of the amount of passage money paid annually for the homeward voyage from India for officers : and, general return, showing the number of officers present with their regiments in India and those absent at the latest return, in the case of absentees distinguishing the cause of absence : viz.—Staff employ; civil employ; colonels of regiments; depots in Great Britain and Ireland ; in transitu for exchange from regiments or battalions in England ; furlough in India on medical certi ficate, or to Europe; furlough on private affairs ; absentees from any other causes. VOTE BY BALLOT. Mr. H. BERKELEY gave noticeof his intention to ask this day fortnight for leave to bring in a bill for the better protection of electors in voting for members of Parlia ment. FOREIGN AFFAIRS. Mr. P. HENNESSY gave notice that on the motion for the adjournment of the house on Friday week he would call the attention of the house to the interference of the Clovernment in the affairs of Italy, and the effect of such interference. QUEENSLAND, AUSTRALIA. Mr. MARSH asked the Under Secretary for the Colo nies, whether it was the intention of the Government to lay upon the table of the house the despatches of Sir Geo. Bowen, Governor of Queensland, Australia ? Mr. C. FORTESCUE said it was not the practice to produce such documents, but in the present case an excep tion would be made, and the despatches in question would be laid on the table. POOR LAW OFFICERS. Mr. P. WATLINGTON asked the President of the Poor Law Bond whether it was his intention to introduce any bill this session to provide for superannuation allow ances to poor law officers of unions and parishes ? Mr. VILLIERS said that a committee had been ap pointed to consider all questions relating to the Poor Law, and this amongst other subjects would be submitted to their consideration. DELIVERY OF IRISH LETTERS. Mr. BRADY asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland if his attention had been directed to the fact that Irish letters, arriving at the General Post-office, London, at 7 o'clock in the morning, were there detained, and not delivered before the second delivery (even so late as 12 o'clock, a.m.) I' Mr. CARD WELL explained that the delay in question was caused by the tempestuous state of the weather during the last two months, which prevented the arrival of the Irish mail in time to be delivered by the first post ; but, with the exception of a few instances, Irish letters were delivered by the second post. COUNTY FRANCHISE. Mr. L. KING rose to move for leave to bring in a bill to extend the franchise in counties in England and Wales. He said he had hoped that after the occurrences of the lust two years in reference to the subject of Parliamentary reform, it would not have been necessary for him to have to bring this subject forward on the present occasion. However, as there was no Reform Bill entertained by Government, and no allusion to reform in the speech from the Crown, he thought that the present was a fitting opportunity to bring forward his measure as an instalment of reform. Many persons in the country I think that Reform should not be attempted in the shape of a comprehensive measure, but that they should en deavour to accomplish it in detail. (Hear, hear.) In conformity with that opinion, he considered that it was desirable that he should introduce the present bill for the purpose of extending the franchise in counties to £lO occupiers, the effect of which would be to augment largely the existing constituency in counties, and admit to the exercise of the franchise a class who were competent to use the privilege conferred on them with advantage to the consti tution of the country. In support of his motion, he ad verted to the fact that the principle on which he based his proposed 'bill had been already recognised even by those who had been formerly opposed to it, as was shown by the measure of reform introducedby Lord Derby's Government. That bill, however, presented the principle for which he contended in so mutilated a form that he felt bound to oppose it; and, in consequence of that mutilation, it was rejected, the noble lord (Lord Derby) was deprived of the confidence of the country, and his party driven out of power. Having censured the noble lord the Foreign!Secretary for the course he had adopted in reference to reform this year, he concluded by quoting the noble lord's words in favour of reform on a former occasion. Mr. WARNER, who had the following amendment on the paper :—" That a select committee be appointed to consider what changes it may be desirable to introduce with a view to amend the represen tation of the people," said he had no objection to the principle of the £lO franchise in the bill of his hon. friend (Mr. Locke King), but at the same time he believed that its adoption was the reason why no measure on reform had been successful in the recent attempts that had been made to legislate on the subject. (Hear, hear.) He concurred with his hon. friend in his censure of the noble lord, the Foreign Secretary, whose conduct he considered was injurious to himself and to his party. At the came time, however, he thought the noble lord was unjustly blamed for not bringing forward some measure similar to that of last year. There were no petitions in fa vour of such a measure, and even the unenfranchised whom it proposed to benefit had made no demon stration in its favour. But there were other courses open to the noble lord which he might have pur sued with credit to himself and advantage to the country. He (Lord J. Russell) might have proceeded by resolution, as he had done so successfully on former occasions, and move for a select committee to form a bill on the subject of the franchise. He objected to the proposed bill of the hon. member (Mr. Locke King), on the ground that it proposed a fixed ground for the pos session of the franchise, which he considered impolitic. L. his opinion, any reform bill, to be efficient, chould be founded on the necessities of 18G1, sus not in conformity with an adherence to the principles of the Reform Bill a 136 Z. He thought the best course would be to leave the matter to be dealt with by the independent members of the hone. At the same time they should remember that they (Reform mem bers) were a mere remnant, and not as the were tw years ago, a powerful party. (Hear, hear, from the cOapuptioosnz lion benches.) They should therefore proceed N c rn iiii th only one He drew attention to the fact that notwietheretansen j, still the out of seven of the constituencies wthasinrg y • like revolutionary general feeling was opposed change. The hon. melbertocoannauded by stating that he amendment, but bring it forward would not then moveash on a future occasion as Is substantive motion. moved the following amendment : Mrr D. GRI . F "That, considering- that the object of . the . proposed . bill in volvesp actical adoption of a principle which has ge thebnrconsierd as opposed to the spirit of our Par anermaentary constitution, namely, the uniformity of the 0 6 u nty and borough franchise, it is not expedient to reduce the county franchise below £20." He considered that it was most desirable the house should make reasonable concessions to a desire for the extension of the suffrage ; at the same time he considered the alteration proposed ley the hon. member (Mr. L. King) was too ex tensive to be carried out with safety. Captain JERVIS seconded the amendment. Mr. NEWDEGATE, referring to the conflicting esti. mates of the number of electors which thisimeasure would add to the county ooastituency, and observing that of all changes this was the one respecting the effects of which the house was least informed, insisted that it would be most imprudent to adopt an isolated measure on this great sub ject. Instead of increasing the representation of the opera tive classes it would aggralate tho anomalynow complained of, diminishing relatively the representation of these.classes by increasing that of the occupying classes. Mr. BENTINOK remarked that, although the pretence for the bill was that its object was to extend the county franchise, its practical effect would be to inundate the rural districts with an urban constituency, and import into those districts the corrupt practices of certain boroughs. Lord PALMERSTON—Sir, there are two things which Ido not mean to do. The first is to oppose the motion of my hon. friend for leave to bring in his bill ; and the second is to argue the subject of which that bill treats. (A lau g h, and " Hear, h ear .") I w ill not oppose the introduction of the la, because, in the first place, that would be discour teous to my hen. friend ; and in the next place becau-e it would expose me to the imputation of a change of opinion upon the general question, which I cannot admit. ([leer, hear.) I will not entei into a discussion of the subject to which the bill relates for the same reason as that which led . her Majesty's Government to decline proposing a measure of reform in the present session ; that is to say, because I think it would not be expedient to renew those discussions which occupied so much of the time of the house last year. (Hear.) I shall therefore not be able to vote with the hon. member for Devizes (Mr. Griffith), because the immediate Effect of carrying the amendment would be to negative the motion of my hon. friend for leave to bring in the bill, and because to adopt that amendment would be to anticipate the discussion which eroperly belongs to the committee on the bill, and which ought to be reserved for the expression of the opinion of the house when we reach that stage. My hon. friend the member for Norwich lamented that he be longed to a small remnant of the Liberal pal ty—(a laugh) —and appeared to be inspired with a profound grief by that idea. I would endeavour to console my hcn. friend on that. point by pointing out to him what I think proper reflection would lead him to see—that so far from being the deserted remnant of the Liberal party, he and those who agree with him are rather the centre of a very large Liberal party, and that all sides of the house have come round, more or less, to the principles which we used to call Liberal, and which we could not have expected to see supported so unanimously in former periods. (Hear, hear.) When we observe both parties alternately bringing in a bill, the principle of which was to enlarge the constitu encies of the country, and compare that with the period, which we all recollect, when the Government said there should be no reform at all, when we remember the great number of Liberal measures which have been carriel'-`en''' the common aseent of all parties in the house, we must see that my hon. friend and his supporters, instead of lament. beg that they have been deserted, ought rather to con gratulate themselves on the great progress they have made in bringing round to their opinions almost all parties in this house. (Hear, hear.) I must say I regret that my hon. friend has made this motion, and that my hon. friend the member for Leeds has announced another motion of the same sort during the present session of Parliament. (Hear, hear.) I regret it, as I have said, because I deem it inexpedient to revive the question of Reform in this session. My hon. friends, perhaps, thought it necessary to propose these motions for the purpose of showing that they had not changed their mind, and of recording their continued adherence to those opinions and sentiments which they expressed on former occasions, but that was surely unnecessary, because nobody could suspect either of my two hon. friends or those who agree with them of changing their views on this question. (Hear.) But if they expect that these questions shall be fully dis cussed in the house and brought to a final and suecessfnlissue I think that the experience of the last session of Parliament has in some degree been thrown away upon them. They , are proposing to us piecemeal the very measure which was discussed as an entirety in the last session —(hear, hear) — minus, indeed, a proposal for the transfer of seats, but I have no doubt that that omissionnvill soon be supplied—(a laugh)—and that some independent member will propose to bring on the third portion of the Government bill of last year. Now, the Government bill of last year failed, as it appears to me, from two causes —first, a cause connected with time, and, secondly, a cause connected with substance. The Government felt it to be their duty, a duty arising out of former opinions and pledges given, to propose at the earliest moment a measure for extending the suffrage. They redeemed that pledge, and it remained for the house to determine whether the bill should be accepted or not. But that house had been very recently elected ; it was impossi ble that members should net have fresh in their recollec tion all the inconveniences of a general election. (A laugh.) It was not likely that their constituents should not also remember all that disturbance e.f private mercantile and. • other transactions which necessarily accompanies an elec tion; and therefore it was not to be supposed that tither the members of this house or their constituents should for its own sake wish for a recurrence of a general election;, and yet it was obvious that a measure of that comprehen sive character, if carried, must at a very short subsequent period render necessary an appeal to the country. Ido not mean to say that that feeling would have been paramount, and would have prevented the house from accepting a mea sure which was in itself agreeable to their opinions ; but it. was manifest, from the lengthened discussions which took place last year, that the particular measure was not alto gether to the taste of the majority of this house. (Op position cheers.) Some thought it went too far, and others contended that it did not go far enough; but whether it was too great or too small, it was • quite evident that that measure was not destined to meet the acceptance of the house in the course of the session. Well, now, is the time much altered ? A very few mouths have elapsed since that bill was with drawn, and I should not think it is reasonable to believe that the objection in point of time can have very mush altered in the interval. Does the objection to the substance vary ? Why, my loon. friends have taken care that that. objection shall not vary, because, as far as their two pro posals go, they introduce the identical details which this house was last year not prepared to accept. We have seen in a public document which we have all read this morning,, a remark which I think is not wholly inapplicable to this subject—viz., that there is a time for action, and there, is a time for waiting. Now, with great deference to my hon. friend, I would venture to say that with regard to the question of an organic change in' the representation of the people, I think that the present session is a time for waiting rather than a time for action. That was the opi nion which the Government entertained, and I am sorry that it has not been shared by my honourable friends.. However, they have thought it right to bring in their mea sures, and I am not going to oppose the introduction of either of them. At the same time, as the Government have not thoughtit their duty to ask the hcuse in this session to undertake the question of reform, and as, while I differ from the hon. member for Norwich (Mr. Warner) and do not, think that a plan for altering the working of the constitu tion of the country ought to be referred to a select com mittee upstairs, I am of opinion that great and important measures of this kind ought rather to originate with the re sponsible Government—(cheers) —than be thrown loose by individual members to take their chance. I certainly regret that my hon. friends should have taken upon themselves a duty which I think properly belongs to the Ministers of the Crown. That being the case, although I would not even if I might succeed, ask the house to be guilty of the discourtesy of refusing permission to bring in these bills, still I must say that my hon, friend must not expect those facilities which the Government is often asked to afford to members who have charge of bills. (Laughter.) "Do not," it is said, " throw us on to Wednesdays. Time is passing; difficulties arise. You have only the estimates in hand, you have only the Bankruptcy Bill—only measures of public importance; give us a day." lam constrained to say that I shall object to make such concessions to these bills, and therefore my hon. friends, having brought in their measures—as I trune, they will be allowed to do—must take neon themselves aIX the responsibility of their further progress, and must hol her Majesty's Government free to deal with them, as fir as we may feel it our duty to mix ourselves up with thers e exactly as we may from time to time see fit. The only thing as to which I can pronounce a decided intention is that e we cannot afford any assistance to my hon. f r i ends in further- in g the progress of their measures by g ivin g u p Government days. (Hear.) d after the tempo_ Mr. DISRAELI—Under the circumstances u nder which this bill is introduced to our notice, pia lord, especially rate and very sensible remarks of the to f u the Government, I with respect to the future c til on:h! in e troduction of this bill, am not prepared to oppose asked by one who is so well en more especially as leav - e th ibon. m ember for Surrey ; nor titled to courtesy a n d not that hon. gentleman fallen into nature of the measure which I intro when he claimed me as d supporter duced into this house, a s h g o r u e l a el t principle of his bill. The hon. gentleman was one of o f t he who would not allow the Reform Bill of l er h r a o v r e as ri t s o en t h"he the Liberal party, Lord De rb y' s Government to be read a second time, and I have no doubt that it is in consequence of his precipitate a ction upon that occasion that he is so ill acquainted with the details of that measure. (Hear, hear, and a laugh.) The bill which I introduced did not adopt the principle of the hon. gentleman. It certainly proposed a £lO occupa tion as a qualification for the suffrage in comities, but the primary qualification was an occupation of land of that annual value ; a suffrage very different from that pro poeed by the hon. gentleman, and one which, had I been permitted to go into committee upon that bill, I should have been able to show would have produced con sequences quite different from those which nee' hon. friend the member for 'West Norfolk anticipates will flow from the bill of the hon. gentleman. That bill also embraced as a secondary suffrage a £lO occupation of houses, but the primary suffrage was derived from a •.£lO occupation of land. But was that all ? Besides these occu pation franchises there were, I think, ten other very im portant county franchises created by that bill, of all of which the tendency would have been—l do not use the epithet in a party, but in a political and social sense—of a highly conservative nature. There was introduced into , the counties that lodger franchise to which I attributed very great importance ; there was also a framehise arising from the possession of funded and personal )property,and a variety of county franchises founded upoe e intelligere and education, Therefore the hon. gentler ma n is Iv 3 has B°long ot all justified in stating that gentlemen on idxiis olde o n ; the house have adopted the principle which and with so much honour to h is cons i cp a c te u ne i L rat 44 advo cated, the discussion of which ha s, however, , valuable public time, and th e adoption of, which would to lt- Br ile ;ot Ley ;he ct, he if a Ur. call 9011 ha aid Y's ;hare 100 stk 18 20a 201 10 100 stock 160 stock stock stock 20 20 100 stock stock stock stock stock stolk 6i 61 all all all ail all 61 7} i 8} 8 3 1 I OP"