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ever num 11l the icitor-- )esible five. 6 Shall tduce- ary is ir.) ful to LOU to Bauch it the But n the T life, Hal eatie• tb47li! ties of Lord Cottonham, Lord Brougham, Lord St. Leon- ards, Lord Campbell, and Lord Langdale, who, at differ- ent periods, have recorde 1 their opinions against the present system, and recommended changes, any of which would be better than that now proposed. This is an usurped jurisdiction on the part of the House of Lords, and it was so characte, ise I by Lord Hale, Lord Holt, and Lord No t nghanr. It was a jurisdiction originally exer cised by the King and his privy councillors, and a deci- sloe was arrived at, but not through the Lords. Sir, of two things one must bs done. Either the Houss of Lords ' proprio vigore, must endeavour to amend their j urisdiction ; o*, failing in that, they must frAnkly, openly, and honour. ably, and with a view to the public good, abandon a duty Which they cannot satisfactorily discharge. (Hear, hear.) It has been suggested by many high authorities that it is quite a, mpetent for the House of Lords, without our intervention, to endeavour to amend their jurisdiction. I believe they have the power to summon, not only the common law and equity judges, but members of the Privy Council ; and I cannot see why, at the commencement of tack session, the Lord Chancellor could not make a classi ilcation of the cases to come before them and refer those 1, to common-law and equity Scotch judges and privy coup- ~ eillors. If that be found insufficient I know of no remedy ~ within themselves which would lead to a more satisfactory solution, and nothing could remain but for them to aban , don their jurisdiction. But of this lam sure, that l' things cannot go on as they do now. The public and ', th e profession will not allow it. Sir, the House of Lords 1, is an assembly of politicians, and it is wonderful to ~ expect that- Chancellors and ex-Chancellors who meet:, r to debate in the evenings, sometimes with great keenness and bitterness—(a laugh)—should meet in the morning to agree in their judgments as if nothing 1 , had happened. (H ear , hear, and a laugh.) Lord St. , Leonardo, in his a ble workl on real property, says th a t to the science of law nothing is so injurious as debates 1 1 eu the law. And yet, in his honest eagerness, that noble .; end learned lord has broken thionh his own rule, and de- ~ fends his own decisions with remarkable ability and keen bees. (Hear, and a laugh.) I can give illustrations of .1 th e action of this political influence. There was the O'Connell case, in which the hon. and learned member fur Enniskillen was counsel for Mr. O'Connell. Of the nine common-law judges, seven were in favour of the convic tion, and two against it. The case came to be decided by th e law lords alone. The hon. and learned member for Suffolk was counsel for Mr. O'Connell ; but I believe we have his opinion that if it 'had been the case of an ordi nary mechanic the judgment would have been prononnced th e other way. Vice-Chancellor Stuart has also given the Opinion of my late lamented friend Sir Wm. Follett, that i th e House of Lords On that occasion impaired their juris- i diction, in a manner never to be restored, by failing to put Aside their political bias and upholding the opinion of the majority of the judges. (Hear, hear.) Then there was th e case of the Irish marriages. Ten out of the twelve Judges in Ireland:pronounced an opinion, and that opinion Was upheld by the English judges; but it was by pure ac cident that thai judgment was upheld by the House of Lords, as there w a an equality of voices, and no judgment A all was arrive at—(hear, hear)—so . that,' literally, the decision was red seed to a matter of chance. (Hear, hear.) There was also t e Bridgewater will case, in which eleven Judges were calla irl. Nine out of the eleven agreed with the Lord Chance tor, and the Vbaocellor having decided i itl his own court, acked by ride judges, his judgment was reversed by the pica of four ex-Chancellors. The Scotch cases are more remarkable still, and this bill does not pro tide a remedyi But if there is to be a Scotch deputy, What would the People say to his deciding on matters "ffeoting one-third of the property of the kingdom ? True ;t is open by the bill for the Crown to appoint a Scotch l awyer. But what is the administration of justice in Notch appeals? , Lord Erskine, after he had been raised to the Chancellorship, frankly declared that he knew as !Inch of the law of Scotland as of that of Mexico.' My Ord Truro—than whom amore honest, upright man never Ailed th e s e a t o f justice —( B e ar, h ear )— a nd who possessed 1 % quality even more precious than learning—the strongest Possible love of justice—(hear, hear)—was not ashamed to °Wn his imperfect knowledge in this respect where justice etas at stake. (Hear, hear.) Lord Truro sat by sad c ompulsion for a whole session hearing Scotch appeals *done ; and, at'the commencement, such was his deficiency with regard t o the practice of recording Scotch entails that home borrowed an' elementary book on the subject to take %Me with him. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL. —That was on an Irish a PPeal. ' :"- Sir J. GRAHAM.—Lord Truro was sitting in equity, 1 4 141 all his life he had been a Common-law lawyer. (Hear, oleeze) He sat for a .whole session on Scotch appeals, and l e;!/111 was his sense of justice, that during all that time he `•. 4 1 norproduce a single judgthent. (Laughter.) The Lord J ustice-General of Scotland, ih answer 1 , 03, declares that 4 Ppeale to the House of Lordi are undertaken on the spe• a elation as to the character of, the tribunal at a particular time. The Lord Advocate, e4hom I see sitting here, has fated th a t h e h as h ear d things avouched at the bar in the "louse of Lords es the law of Scotland which the youngest kember of the House of Corninons would be ashamed of, I nd that agents did not look !to the merits of cases, but ! Peculated as to the light in which English lawyers would 7,ew them. It is said that a Lord Chancellor, who pre tt,"led on the wocl s a c k f or y ear i, w ith e n tire satisfaction to ; me people, pronounced judgments most consistent with ' l letice, and redundant with learning. He kept his own e t/masel..but at last the mode by which he arrived at his decisionsZ transpired. The Lord Chancellor said that after hearin g a case he always retired to his closet before pros 40uncing a decision, and he acknowledged that he a,ffixed 4 numb e r to the cases pro and eon. and having thrown a dice decided according as the numbers turned up. ("Hear, hear," and laughter.) Now, sir, it is to chance and ape !lllation that we are asked to give our sanction. The re ne:eatery process haii been commenced by the Lords them &elves, but I think that an inquiry into the appellate jur isdiction in the last resort would still lea a useful and " ° nourable employment. (Hear, hear.) If this bill be delay e d by inquiry, we may remember that the session is k icawing to a close, and that the appellate jurisdiction will not b e called upon to decic'e upon appeals for some months to come. I have been asked to sketch a scheme of im provement by which the intervention of the House of I"lnnions may be avoided. But if legislation be necessary us begin de 710110, and consider how an efficient tribunal _ e ati be instituted. As b .tween my vote for delay and for e n bill I have no hesitation. If lam driven to it I shall he against the bill ; but perhaps, on the whole, it will "a better to support the motion for a committee of in quiry. (Loud cries of " Hear, hear.") Ir., ROUNDELL PALMER said the arguments which bad been advanced in support of the bill were sufficient to d e u tifY him in any opposition which he might g ive to it, if he felt so inclined. He cousidered however, that the sub- Ject seas one'that urgently required leeislationond although Ile thought the bill was weak in its details, yet he believed divisio n were open to amendment, and if they were to go to a uivision on the principle of the bill, ho must give it his t a ! -I PPort. He did not believe the exaggerated representa el?ns as to th e d e f ec t s o f th e j ur i s di c tion of the House of rde,_although he was free to confess that there were. a lly defects in it. They should reflect that they had to de al not with a mere question of prerogative, but with the question of the interests of justice, with the necessities of t "'jug courts of final appeal, which should be satisfactory 4 ? the suitors and to the public ; which should maintain ,;!le independence of the judicial system, so that such a j n 'neater° mieht be enabled to stand at the head of the etlieatories a the kingdom. The choice lay between the r emoval of the power of aeal altogether from the Home 14 ° I Lo r d s, or the appointment of officers of a new class such es bill propose d . It was th e i r fi rs t d u ty to consider the 0 ect the bill would have in the administration of justice. n that point of view he should aproach the question. 4 ° l be believed would be the real a p lternative, but as re tied the principle of the present measure he would not el ee th e a lt erna ti ve. Hi s h on . f r i en d b a d propose d t o ,T e "aify the cases of appeal' into Scotch, Irish, colonial and f ri , ° , l) , and would constitutea committee of Scotch and Bath lawye rs equity and'Common law lawyers, and delta \ t , o ssto them th e appe ll a t e j ur i s di c ti on . Thi s was t o g i ve : determi na ti on o f th e appea l t o th e ver y jud g e s from 11 lane the appeal lay. If this was the case, they would ill, wan t any court of appeal at all. There was already t , Court of chequer Chamber, which would answer 4 - ' . : Ramo purpo e. 'This principle was simply that of solv 'o". h i e difficul y by cutting the knot, and saying that no 1 °ll ' t °f epea was wanted at all, and that everything t . 44 ° uld be one l y courts now sitting. There remained the r 9'"'ng the appeal to the Judicial Committee of the j o lvY Councili Now that committee was composed of T,"Ve who 114 their tenure at the pleasureof the Crown. p' i p effect th4efore of constituting this appeal in the tt riv Y Council Would be this—that the judges of ultimate peal would' be removable at the pleasure of the Crown. e ° that, while pll the lower steps were independent of the ittu.echwTrah,itihe highest court of appeal would be dependent on Might appear to bee mere question of form, but into question s were liable at any time to be turned , ee : a u qeestion of grave political importance. There G t hi 3 pcact cal objeetion to the proposal—tbat you, ust first des roy, and then reconstitute the Judicial, Which of he Privy Council—a court the merits of must the sou ,r;er had long acknowledged. A new court i •e n ut be consti bed, exercising new judicial powers. Now eulltii4lning a n w coutt, they must bear in mind the diffi ieses of constituting a new court of appeal for our coin fra ' When 'he constitution of those colonies was first of is n ? d . there ems nothing unconstitutional in the Court th e p r ' v Y-Conncil as a court of appellate jurisdiction from: ev ot e k ° n 4 . B C' Ant if they were to create a new court, there to this new se •eMs obstiuctions on the part of the colomee , ell ulis new 'en rt'of appeal. Then, again, after all, was, 37. e traditional espect for the judicial power of the House too t °,rde so eee rly baseless, and was there nothing in tha br -4 °f aPPea being connected with one of the great for 9ehes of th Legislature? Did theudicial system ent ketrnna Navinits root in the House of Lords—so inde. Pendent of allother influences whether of the Crown or off hi Y oi °tl l e r ? e believed that the judicial system gained' I the T inity, vieur, and stability from its association with dignitylaLottse of Lords ; while that house gained equally in. i tti and stability from its association with the court off tb ee eat twe e He could not help asking the question, iff to r e: would establish a court of appeal in the House off e . would it not be better to try to do so thanto . vene , leis e • " new experimetits elsewhere ? As to the bill itselff of e llgiat bon. friend objected to the bill on two grounds; cierriPin; which were these : the manner in which the, et oo st on of life peerages was dealt with, and the recogni- Net " t he_practice involved in the present judicial eonstie ketnbn.or the House of Lords. As to the first, they weim Mutt i t the , ,_.._ arguments, On the one side it was urgedi ster ee t e 6llo Powers to the Crown in the creation of lifie seig at r; B, and' on the other that they diminished the pre-- falsepee, by limiting these peerages. Now he (Mr. R. right T, why of !opinion that the Crown had an undoubted!. du e b t ° eteate life peerages. Until the late debate no, • bo w e ..livae; ever expressed on the subject. One noble hereto c eptie 're ardent against this principle, had in his judiciull c s p e4 ',LY in the case of the Devon peerage, maintained non ages, the Crown had the power of creating life-peel-- Pee r , Th e f making them during the lifetime of anothez Pass e d v !Power of the Crown in creating peerages haul Pos a ib ie urough so many modifications that it was ime hoe. to exclude the power of creating life peer , V ane The late Lord Londonderry sat as Lordl !ineit a e l i e ll ' ',the • House. of Lords, with the express; 'r th e a l ° a younger child by a second wife, anal sae s principle h a d b e e n carried out Lord Londont euoiir W ould not h ave b een a bl e to sit in the house unclear th e e c° ,nditione. H would add that, whatever might late ere ae " to n e aY of those He advised the Government on thee th at te u_ of Lord Wensleydale, there could be no douhtt Pre e s e ". ° Lord Chancellor was actuated by the object off • •• es e. - s.;Arotvelleriv?Thi.ne: le aep 4kior what the bill itself was intended to provides, laiawnadnt in'the appellate tribunal of the Lev* ~he did not think the prerogative of tlue ti e , of .peered by this bill. He thought that the prerogra attsettele CroWn might safely be given up for some mile t n ia° F rare .. Pport in the'absence of any power of enforcing eeeri e t . ':lative, of , creating life peerages in the House elf Crop s _e iN. Gr Will there any sound practical reason why tine t e ee oe a o nould be advised to refuse its consent to this limn . !I -peer ative i'ae ree eedee . eg .It was not a principle which e a n ew _ t'n LO be widely applied -it was only intendeed ur owe u„: 4 Practical difficulty. The prerogative of thin ee t . a. "_°' had been limited in the cases of Irish and Scoteth big, and of bishops. Under an act of Parliament, tine '''`°Ps Rare • . • re limited in their number in. the Howe. uxf From si be Mon. it is their ['here Lo or atop eats- • 1r life the more Lls or The ey do that. much „: 13 not 311 t of -- ure ip v ry to'r 1 edent dionS:l' desiia IP , r rite in - s, the refuge have MODS. istory have we over but Worth I pole, Ice to [orace le ex im." trans- • co and years ' is title xo the most theme & re agefor The tes and s exer• otnent :le con- Lords. There was, therefore, nothing unconstitutional in regulating the prerogative of the Crown in the matter of peerages. He regarded this bill as a means of supplying a judicial want. It would be a consistent course to uphold the prerogative within the limits of this act, and at the same time to limit it in the direction from which danger I was apprehended. His right hon. friend had drawn such a picture of those who would obtain this questionable power, that he (Slr. R. Palmer) could not help suspecting the reasoning which supposed that, under such a bill, they would go on overleaping the barrier till every man would have the finger of scorn pointed at him who accepted those honours. and yet the army, the navy, and all the profes sions, till they came to that to which his right hon. friend himself belonged, would go on demanding to have these honours, such as they were, conferred upon them. Really, no one would] eccept life peerages unless on the ground that they were more acceptable to themselves than hereditary Peerages. The descendants of a man who had accepted an hereditary peerage without the means of supporting it, would not look back with gratitude on the founder of this peerage, and would wish that he had contented himself with a life peerage. As to the Court of Appeal, it must ;be chiefly composed of lawyers. Now, all experience showed that you cannot always command a sufficient number of lawyers ready to accept hereditary peerages. One reason why lawyers made large fortunes in former times was that there were moans incidental and irregular of g.tti ng money, all of which were cut off now. All that was done now must be by the legitimate means of honest labour, and the consequence was that very few of those large fortunes of oil were now built up. Once they were, there could be no reason for not allowing the Crown to create an hereditary peerage in that instance. No one who shoal I go through the fortunes of a lawyer for the last seventy s ears could fail to see that it would have been far better if, in most instances, hereditary peerages had not been taken. Only one colossal fortune had been raised—that of Lord Eldon. If this was so, it would be better even for those who should rise to be the ornament of their profession not to accept hereditary peerages. The result ha t been, that for many years very few hereditary peerag is hat been conferred upon lawyers. The remedy, even if Lo 'd Wensleydale's creation had been ac .opted, must have been imperfect, because there would still have been no compulsory attendance, while practical, regular, ordinary attendance of persons willing to give their con stant attendance to business, could not be secured with out the payment of salaries. Still, he thought that many of the details of the bill were defective. The number of judges under it was too small, so that they would hereby have to apply again to Parliament for a larger measure. It likewise only gave the judges the salaries of puisne judges, 5,000/. a-year. These were points which' they might consider and amend in committee. The principal was, that they should maintain and improve the judicial constitution of the House of Lords, and on that principle he should vote for the second reading of the bill. Mr. COLLIER admitted that the measure, as it stood, was imperfect ; but its opponents had none of then agreed as to what ought te be done, or suggested a remedy for the existing state of things. That being the state of the oppo sition the measure, he looked at the bill and found it a practical measure, which went some way to meet the evil with which it proposed to deal. The main grievance in the present system of the House of Lords was, that'there was no regular attendance of those who were the judges. /'The bill proposed to appoint three permanent judges, who were always to attend the sittings of the house, and. who were to form a tribunal, the sittings of which would be co-extensivein duration with thoseof the courts from tvhieh the causes before it came. If the suggestions made by the Solicitor-General before the committee of the House of Lords had been attended to, he believed they would have met all the exigencies of the case, arid if no one else did so he (Mr. Collier) should in committee endeavour to adapt the bill to those suggestions. He should support the second reading. Mr. J. G. PHILLIMORE objected to an argument which bad been used in favour of continuing the appellate jurisdiction of the House of Lords, that it combine& legis lative and judicial functions, which he declared to be an anomaly and opposed to every principle of a free constitu tier. He urged that the judicial functions of the House of Lords were a usurpation. In the time of Charles 11. an attempt was made by the House of Lords to get an original jurisdiction, which they had to a certain extent acquired during the Long Parliament ; but it was strenuously op : posed by Lord Hale. After Hale died, the House of Coins' mons, rather than see causes decided by such persons as Charles 11. would have appointed, acceded to the usurps; tion of those functions by the House of Lords, which were now talked of as if it would be sacrilege to touch them. It was the duty of the House of Commons to get a competent tribunal of appeal by the payment of any sum of money, but it was bound not to continue to support au inefficient and inadequate system. Lord J. RUSSELL—I confess I could have wished to hear from the Solicitor-General some other reasons in sup port of this bill than those which I have as yet heard. In deed, it appears to me that two very great authorities who have spoken in favour of the bill have, by their speeches, rather tended to increase the doubts of those who are unfa vourable to the me aura than to confirm thos e who are anxi ous to hear reasons in favour of it. The Attorney-General almost made an apology for introducing the bill. He said it was not what it ought to be, and that what he desired was a bill which would erect a tribunal of appeal quite in dependent of the House of Lords. (Hear, hear.) The hon. and learned gentleman pointed out how much better such .a tribunal would be than that created by the present bill, and he did not state to the house any reason against such a measure, except that the House of Lords were deter mined to go against reason, to overbear all the motives of justice and expediency, and to stand by their appellate jurisdiction, however mischievously it might work to the country. (Clißert4.) I must confess that would give one a very bad *ion of the House of Lords, and I cannot but think it vvuld give the country a bad notion of the House of Commons if, acknowledging the measure to be bad — knowing that it has been recommended to us as a bad measure—we: .were, nevertheless, to accept and adopt it in its present shape. (Hear, bear, and cheers.) Then wo were told by the honourable and learned mem ber for Plymouth—and I was glad to hear his remarks, because they coincided with the opinion which I had my self formed—that if the proposed -tribunal were to be cre exted, not only would 5,000/. a-year be an inadequate salary ilor the judges to be appointed, but more than two Deputy -Speakers should sit in the House of Lords ; and ho added that unless the salary were larger, and unless two more members were added to the tribunal, the bill before us would be a miserable failure. Bat we must take the bill .us we find it ; and, however much the hon. and learned gentleman may wish to amend it, I know nit that the Go vernment would be prepared to adopt the alterations which he proposes. (Hear.) lam toll, however, that the hill is the result of a bargain between the two sides of the House of Lords, and that we have nothing to do but to assent to it. Now, instead of inclining me to acquiesce humbly in such a bill, it does give me some suspicion of the measure to be told that it is a compromise between two opposite parties. (Cheers.) In the first place, in spite of the learned authorities which have been quoted, I have considerable doubt whether the pr posed remedy is absolutely required. I am told that the House of Lcrds is unfit to exercise the functions of a court of appeal, because very frequently the Lord Chancellor sits alone; because at all times the attend ance is uncertain ; because there may be present two ea- Chancellors, or ony one, or none at all; and, because the members of the court do not appear iu judicial costume. Why, Sir, the greater part of those allegations refer to a state of things which less always existed, even when the country was most satisfied with the constitution of the House of Lords as an appellate tribunal. We have heard the names of Lords Hardwicke, Mansfield, and Eldon, more recently of Lord Cottenhans, as well as of Lords Lyndhurst and Brougham, who ere still alive; and I think no one can say that there has not been from Lord Hardwick° down wards almost a perpetual succession of periods in which men of great intellect, of very powerful understanding, and with vast treasures of acquired legal knowledge have pre sided in the Howe of Lords. If that has been the case, I am disposed to think, when you are toll by competent wit nesses- men, too, who cc mplain of th e axis in g s y stem—that when Lord Lyndhurst presided in the House of Lords and Lords Cottenharn, Campbell, and Brougham attended, it was a most powerful tribunal, and one satisfactory to the country, you are endeavouring to provide a permanent remedy for a temporary evil ; 'that those disadvantages which you are informed exist in 1856 may in two or three years hence utterly disappear; and that the tribunal may then be as much an object of veneration an i confidence as it has hitherto been. I agree with the hon. and learned gentle man who spoke last, that in the days of Charles 11. the House of Lords in its judicial capacity was e new tribunal, and that Lord Hale was opposed to its appellate jurisdiction ; but, when so much time has passed since the beginning of the reign of that monarch, I must be content to take things as they are now, and unless that appellate tribunal is quite unsatisfactory unless lam forced to look for a remedy—l must endeavour to be satisfied with its constitution as it exists at the present moment. (Hear.) At the same time, it ap pears to me that there is great force in what is stated by several of the witnesses with regard to the Lord Chancellor sitt ng alone ; but I think, with the Lord Justice Clerk of Scotland and the Master of the Rolls in England, that an ac cOmplished and able man giving his full attention to o case, even though it may not relate to the particular law with which he has been most conversant, is likely to come to a better decision than a tribunal of inferior men, though they may be more numerous. (Hear, hear.) The instance which has been quot d from the evidence of the right hon. member for the University of Dublin is rather a proof than the reverse of the truth of that observation. Examine it for a moment. The right hon. gentleman says that Lord Truro, coming to sit in the House of Lords, was so ignorant with respect to a particular act of Parliament referring to Ireland—the Irish Registry Act—that he asked for a common text book to take home with him, in order that he might learn the A B C with regard to that law. But the right hon. gentleman does not stop there, for he goes on to say that Lord Truro, having mastered the cases having made himself perfectly acquainted with that act of Parliament, came down to the House of Lords and delivered a most luminous and elaborate judgment. (Hear.) Therefore, Sir, it appears to me that your practice of selecting the ablest man in the legal profession who be longs to the party which happens to be in power, of placing him at the head of the House of Lords, and of confiding to him the appellate jurisdiction, is not so utterly a failure or so entirely disgraceful an arrangement as some hon. and learned gentlemen at the present day seem to imagine. (Hear, hear.) I admit there are many things with respect to which we might blame both the Lord Chancellor and some of the ex- Chancellors who sit with him, but they are matters of arrangement which, with more care and attention, and with a little more respect to the public, the noble and learned lordi themselves can manage. Instead of two noble lords delivering an elaborate judgment, and a third saying that 'he was not aware the case was coming on that day, and was not prepared to give his decision, I think it would have been respectful to the public and decorous to the parties whose interests were to be judged if the case had, been adjourned to another day. Again, Sir, great fault is' found with respect to some defects of manner, and a noble and learned lord, whose qualifications as a judge no one will question—Lord St. Leonards—is much blamed because he has been seen to slap the table with his hand. (A laugh.) Now really, Sir, are wo going to alter the whole jurisdiction of the court of last resort because one of the judges slaps with his hand upon the table? (A. laugh.) These are matters which should be remedied by the noble and learned lords themselves. They should agree to sit together in judicial costume, if ne cessary ; they should do some things far more essential than those to which I have adverted ; they should, above all, very much diminish the expense of those printed copies and of all those preparatory proceedings which are now necessary before a case oan come into the House of Lords. (Cheers.) Why, Sir, these are vestiges of the time when lay lords gave their opinions in the house, and I have no doubt that three fourths of the expense might be taken away. (Hear.) There is another point to which the right hen. baronet the member for Carlisle has adverted, and which I know engaged the attention of Lord Cdttenham. That noble and learned lord thought of re commending that a judicial committee of the House of Lords should sit during the recess of Parliament ; that at the open ing of the session they should make a report upon the several cases they had heard ; and that then the House of Lords should be moved to confirm their report and deliver judgment accordingly. Why, Sir, that would remedy a great part of the evil complained of. It is complained that, during a period of two or three months, most useful forjudicial purposes in other Carts, the Rea* #4 11491111 slogs. Act Nit. I have siqwn hqw THE SUN LONDON, TUESOAY EVENING, 'SLY 8, 1856' that might be remedied without any such alteration as that now proposed. But, Sir, if I were to yield to the learned authorities which have been euoted iu favour of a change, I should still remain of opinion that the prop sed remedy must result in making the tribunal worse than at present. (Cheers ) The Attorney-General spoke of the mischief and impropriety of a single Lord Chancellor sitting alone in the House of Lords and overruling decisions which the superior courts at West minster, or the Lords Justices, or any other tribunals much res2ected in the country, have arrived at by large majori ties. Let us suppose another case. Let us suppose the Lord Chancellor, a very eminent man, thoroughly qualified for the duties intrusted to his charge, sitting in the House of Lords with two puisne judges, or persons holding the rank and receiving the pay of puisue judges, and those two individuals overruling the decisions of the courts of common law, and of the Lord Chancellor likewise. It appears to me, Sir, that such a tribunal, instead of being an improvement, would be worse than the one now in existence. (Cheers.) I can well conceive that if, as the hon, and learned member for Suffolk has proposed, there was a tribunal of five persons—the Lord Chancellor. presiding at its head, and four judges receiving 6,0001. or 7,0001. a-year each—such a position might be an object of ambition to men learned in the lave, and we might have a better court of ap peal than that which we possess at present. If a change is to be nettle, I -should be in favour of such a change ; bet what I say is, either leave the Lords' appellate tribunal as it is --either leave that court of justice to make some improve meut in its own constitution and procedure —or, if you have a remedy to propose, let us have a complete and efficient remedy. (Cheers.) Let us have a Lord. Chancellor, with four of the ablest men you can have, sitting as an appellate tribunal. If you can secure such a tribunal, trustworthy and efficient, I am ready for one to vote the necessary funds, and I might go along with the proposal of the hon. and learned member for Suffolk if a change is to be niado. But I say, do not fill between the two; do not have a tribunal which is neither the House of Lords nor a good appellate tribunal chosen from the best men who can be found, but a hybrid creation which partakes of both and does not satisfy the just expectations of the country. (Rear.) The tribunal which is to be formed is to sit in the House of Lords, and that ap pears to me to be the only thing in which it can be said to be the House of Lords deciding appeals. (Hear, hear.) The House of Lords, as the Attorney-General said, are very anxious to maintain this tribunal ; but whet is it they are wishing to maintain ? We all know that 80 years ago, the lay lords assisted in the judgments of the court of apPeal. On the famous Douglas case some lay peers sat on the twelve days during which the case was heard, and they gave their votes upon it. I happened to stumble the other day upon a speech of the Duke of Chandos, in which he claims merit to himself for having attended the legal as well as the general business of the House of Lords. The court of appeal was, then, either a good or a bad tribunal —hat it was at least 'a reality ; it was really the House of Lord's Presided over by such men as Lord Camden or Lord Mansfield, and therefore not uninstructed with regard to the law, and deciding on these cases. That went on until the time of Lord Eldon ; but then, all on a sudden, the house declared that two lay lords should attend day by day is order to make &quorum. Two lords, therefore, often attended at the beginning of a case, two more at the middle, and two more, , who- had not heard either the beginning or the middle, attended at the end. (Hear, and laughter) Why then the mystery was an veiled; the arcanurn, imperil, was at once discovered. No body could then pretend that these were lay lords, hearing and deciding appeals; it was obvious that no one but the Lord Chancellor and the law lords gave their opinions on such subjects. Well, then, having got over this, the Upper House propose to go a step further, and they say, " Leave these lay lords out altogether; let only the ex-Chancellors attend; let the Lord Chancellor sit with two other persons," who are not to be, as the ancient peers were, judges because they aro peers, but peers because they are judges. (Cheers.) Why, that completely alters the nature of the tribunal. The Lord Chancellor sits in one room with two Lords Justices, and that is the appellate tribunal of the Court of Chancery. He sits , in another room with two learned lords as Deputy-Speakers, and, because he sits in the same room iu which the House of Lords sits in the evening to discuss political matters, that is to be called maintaining the appellate jurisdiction of the lords. (Cheers.) Sir, I hope the home will not give its sanction to such a sham. (Cheers.) I really think the House of Lords, if they had not been intent upon this bargain upon making this compromise would themselves have, been ashamed of pro posing such a scheme as this, calling it the preservation of their appellate jurisdiction. (Hear.) I have mentioned that there is another question concerned in this bill, and it is a question upon which I am sorry to touch at all; but it is impossible to avoid it, because the House of Lords have sent down a bill iu which that subject is touched upon. I mean the creation of peers for life. Well, that is a very grave ques tion, and I own that I very much regret the course of the Government with respect to what appeared to be an unneces sary creation of a learned judge, who might have been made a peer in the ordinary manner, and whom everybody would have respected as ail hereditary peer.' (Hear ) I say I am sorry that so unneeeSiary a step was taken for the purpose, as it were, of trying the .question, and I am very sorry that the lords immediately caught at it as a matter of dispute, and decided in a committee of privileges that the noble lord so created could not take' his seat. Sir, I don't think we yet seethe end of that decision. (Hear.) We know very well that in the time of Charles 11., as the hou.gentleman who spoke last reminded us, there was a decision of the House of Lords — in fact, several resolutions were passed—to the effect that they possessed original jurisdiction. That they have entirely given up. We also know this house decided, andupon full authority, that Mr. Wilkes hadno right to a seat ; and in spite of an im mense majority of the freeholders of Middlesex, the House of Commons persisted in giving the seat to a gentleman who had a minority of votes upon the poll. These resolutions, how ever, after being stoutly maintained, were, as we all know, expunged from the journals of the house, and are now uni versally acknowledged to be a precedent that ought never to be followed ; indeed, when a case afterwards occurred some thing like it, we pursued a directly opposite course. So I trust that that resolution of the House of Lords upon the re port of their committee of privileges will some years hence be repealed. There is, indeed, a decision by them upon a peerage question with regard to which such a course has been pursued. They decided, soon after the Union, that a Scotch peer could not sit in the House of Lords by virtue of an Eng lish peerage, hut after the lapse of some 60 or 70 years they found they were mistaken in the law ; they altered that de cision, and they seated another noble lord who WAS a Scotch peer and had no more claim than the one they had formerly refused to admit. In the same way I trust this decision on the subject of life peerages will not be permanently retained op the journals of the Upper House. (Hear.) The question is a grave one, and has been decided, as I venture humbly to think, without suffieieet argument. Everybody knows the doctrine held by Lord Coke, that the Crown possessed the prerogative of making peers for life. The same doctrine is stated by Judge Doddridgo as one which did not admit of doubt. It Iles been stated over and over again by various text writers, who have all copied this dictum of Lord Coke and Judge Doddridge. It so happened, in a case solemnly heard before the House of Lords, that Lord Brougham, when Chancellor, having occasion to refer to the assertion of Judge Doddridgc, went cn to dispute another dictum of this judge upon peerage law, but he did not notice as a subject for dispute that the Crown might create peers fur life. Lord Wynford followed the Lord Chancellor, and stated he should be very sorry to see the King make peers for Ile, as he thought it would do great injury to the cons itution, but neither Lord Brougham nor Lord Wynford, nor anybody who ever mentioned the subject—except Mr. Butler, in a law work—ever positively, and with any authority, contradicted the opinion of Lord Coke. (Hear.) I do not say that that opinion is to be accepted without dispute, but what I do say is, that when the House of Lords had to consider the subject they should have made some further inquiry, and should have heard at their bar sonic persons to defend the exercise of the prerogative of the Cruwn. I own I was somewhat sur prised that the learned Attorney-General did not appear at the bar of the House of Lords, in order to defend that which the Crown had done. (Hear, hear.) But let us sue the position in which the question now remains. Contrary to the authority of Lord Redesdale, the House of Lords have refused to allow Lord Wensleydale to take his seat. Do they mean that the Crown is to be deprived of that power which Lord Coke and many great authorities have declared it pos sesses? They find themselves, as my right lion. friend (Sir J. Graham) says, in some embarrassment at setting themselves so positively against the prerogative of the Crown. What, then, have they clone? They hew agreed that a certain num ber of persons, not more than four, shall hold peerages for life ; they have mixed up that important subject of life peer ages with the appellate jurisdiction, with which it has nothing whatever to do, and they have laid down that no more than four peers of this kind shall sit in the House of Lords. Do they intend in this way to take away or circumscribe the pre rogative ?—a question you may well ask. My Lord St. Leonards, the Lord Chief Justice, and acme other peers, said that it did take it away ; Lord Lansdowne said that it did not. A noble peer proposed to insert words which would make it clear. But that would have left no subject of dis pute in the house, and neither side would have adopted it. (Hear.) Then the House of Lords sent the bill down here, and we are asked to accept it in this ambiguous way, and to make an act of Parliament for the continuance of those two parties in the Upper Chamber, (Hear.) I will venture to say that, whatever different opinions persons may entertain with regard to the prerogative of the Crown in the creation of peers for life—and my own views upon that subject may not coincide with those of my right hon. friend the member for Carlisle—a more indecent measure, or a more unfit mode for Parliament to deal with the prerogative of the Crown, has never been brought forward. (Loud cries of " Hear, hear.") Well, sir, I will now state and I will state very briefly, my own opinion upon the subject of life peers, as my right hon. friend has so fully stated his. My own opinion is that there are so many authorities in favour of the ancient prerogative of the Crown to create life peers, that as it is stated over and over again by the very highest authorities that peers haze been created with very great limitations, and; among others, with a limitation for life, there can be no doubt as to the ancient prerogative of the Crown, That prerogative, how. ever, not having been exercised for so long a period—not having been exercised during the good times of the con stitution not having been exercised since the Revolu tion, with regard to any person who has taken his seat in the House of Lords, I am willing to admit that I think that, if such a prerogative were now to be exercised, it would be fitting to lay down, by an act of Parliament, the exact limits within which it might be exercised. (Hear, hear.) But then I think that the question is a very serious one—(hear, hear)—and one which ought to be dealt with by a bill relating to that subject alone—a bill which would require the most mature consideration. (Hear.) I believe that, if we are to have peers for life, it would be advantageous not to confine those peerages to the profession of the law. (Hear, hear.) There may be gallant admirals and gallant generals whose services are deserving of the approbation and admira tion of their country, although they may not be so brilliant as those of Wellington or of Nelson ; and such men might, I think, be very fitly placed in the House of Lords as peers for life, I think, likewise, that if the number of peers were fixed at a certain limit, we should not be introducing any anomaly into the constitution of the House of Lords, because at the present moment there are in that assembly more than 70 peers who sit for life or for a term less than life. There are the Irish peers who are elected for life, the Scotch peers who are elected only for the Parliament, and the bishops who hold their seats for life ; and I believe that the creation of another set of life peers, limited in number, containing men of eminence at the bar, in the naval and military profes. sions, and in statesmanship, would not only not tend to dimi nishgthivee general it st r e strength—(hear) —and the autho rit y of the Hou se of Lords, rdes,b.ulzd would ould,on be' spirit h of the times. (H ear .) I may be told that there is no necessity for such a course at the present moment. Well, I dare say not, but it is true i c n o contrary, tiletnyd towith with regard to the naval and military professions, more so than with regard to the law, that there are not the same means which used to exist for members of that profession to obtain fortunes sufficient to enable them to sustain the dig. nity of an hereditary peerage. They have no longer those means by which a general in Flanders, or an admiral in the East or West Indies, or in the Pacific, may obtain a fortune sufficient for that purpose ; but still we cannot wish to ex clude those men from honours which Wellington and Nelson were proud to gain— (hear, hear)—and upon them we might confer a peerage for life. I think, therefore, that we should. derive great advantage from the creation of life peerages, but I must say that, to confine such creations to four per sons in the profesSion of the law, to say that they shall he life peers, and that no others shall be admitted to that distinction, would be to place those persons in a most invidioul position; I will not say iu a degrading position, but still in a position which many men who aro eminent at the bar would not wish to occupy. I come now to my last objection to the bill, and that is that I think that its tendency is to offer to the puisne judges a temptation which ought not to be placed in their way. (Hear, hear.) By this bill a temptation is held out, especially to the puisne judges ; they are told that they will have easy work, and that instead of being employed the whole year they will, if they obtain one of these scats in the House of Lords, be em ployed for only a small period of it, and at the sole time they will suffer no diminution in their salary. Well, sir, I say that that is a change for the worse. (Hear.) It is a great merit, with regard to our courts of justice, that the puisne judges do not look any further than to the retiring pension to which, after many years' labour, they are entitled. Upon the whole, I have mete to the conclusion that, although I see no immediate or pressing urgency, however much I may differ from others in that opinion, for any great reform in the appellate jurisdiction of the House of Lords—for I believe that the House of Lords could themselves make such changes as would render their court of appeal satisfactory to the country, still if a change is to be made, I say let us have 'a change which takes away the tribunal of appeal from the House of Lords altogether—(huel cries of " hear, hear") — and let us establish a tribunal which shall be complete in it self, and which shall consist not of the puisne judges, but of the most eminent men that can be found in the profession If it be necessary to introduce a judge from Scotland, al though I must confess that I have never been convinced of the advantage of so doing, then lot one be introduced ; but at all events let us make the tribunal complete ; but, above all, do not, while you aro amending the tribunal of last re sort, introduce another very grave and serious subject into the bill. Do not at the same time attempt to fetter the pre rogative of the Crown in a manner which may at the same time be mischievous. to the country. If we were at an early period:of the session I might perhaps be content to say, let us send the bill to a select committee—but it is quite obvious that to send it to a select committee in tie month of July would perhaps be a more polite but not less effectual mode of getting rid of the bill during the present session than by directly negativing it. For my own part, I approve the more direct manner of getting rid of it, and I shall, therefore, give my decided vote against the second reading. (Cheers.) The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that every person who desired to amend our judicial institutions, and especially to improve the tribunal in the House of Lords, must have heard with regret the animadversions of the right hon. baronet the member for Carlisle, and he must say he could not concur in many of the observations which had fallen from the noble lord the member for the City of London.' It had been said that the judicial authority of the House of Lords was a mere usurpation. Now it was impossible to con ceive a greater mistake. The House of Lords had always had a juri , dictien to pass judgment on writs of error, and had been the tribunal in the last resort on all questions of law cerried up from the courts of law in. Westminster-hall. It was true that after the jurisdiction in equity was settled, a difficulty arose as to the appellate tribunal from the Lord Chancellor. From 1685 they had the right to exercise that power, and it had been conceded to them without any ques tion. The question for consideration was whether assistance should be given to the House of Lords in the performance of its ditty. It was the character of the people of this country to endure suffering very long, and it was the character of the House of Commons, when a remedy was proposed for a griev ance, for a great number of gentlemen to quarrel with the re medy, and thus leave the grievance unredressed. (Hear.) One of the inconveniences of the present system of the Lord Chancellor being the sole judge in the Court of Appeal was that his various other duties frequently compelled him to break up his sitting. Another was, that the appeals being on a variety of subjects, it was impossible for any ono judge thoroughly to understand them all, and deliver sentences which would have the effect of the laws of the Modes and Persians. In the Courts of Que.eda...Bench and Common Pleas a plurality of votes, and a plurality of minds, were recognised as their distinguishing characteristics. And it was proposed that the same •rfile should be extended to the tribunal of last resort. (Hear.) When Lord Lyndhurst, Lord Cottenbam, Lord Brougham, and Lord Campbell attended the appeals there was no call for a different tribunal ; but new the at tendance of more than ono or two peers could mit, be secured. When Lord Eldon was Chancellor he was anxious that Lord Redesdale should sit with him, and in the time of Lord Hard wicko he was always desirous of having the assistance of another peer. The necessity of a change was now universally acknowledged. (Hear.) ' The House of Lords was anxious to give satisfaction, and our judicial institutions would be in a most unsatisfactory state if a proper appellate jurisdiction sitctild not be established. Now, what was the remedy to be resorted to? Deputy speakers had from time to time bean appointed, and it was desirable to render that perpetual which had only bee* resorted to on a few occasions ; and he would ask whether it was not better to accept the proposed mode of insuring competency and a sufficiency of mem bers than to pull down that tribunal and institute uo one knew what? A most important but absurd g o t b h l o e nlo. lord the hart. the memimember scheme efmo Carlisle—had been suggested au for the city of London had eulogised the time when noble lords, who had not studied the law, wore soli ci t ed t o t ak e part in judicial decisions. But the no ble lord must recollect (laughter)—and the time when petitions were presented by handsome daugh ters and sisters, and suitors appealed to lords who had no knowledge of the yew. The house was asked to reject the bill. But if they did so, were they prep ared to continue the presentsystem ? There was the greatest p ossible uncertaint y with respect to the court of appeal of the P riv y Council, and at the present moment the business of m ore than one court was suspended on account of the absence of the j ud g es at the Privy Council on other business. • This inconvenience would be greatly increased by the proposal which had been sub mitted by some hen. members. Was it not better, then; to preserve than to demolish, to repair rather than to destroy, an old institution of the country ? (Hear.) The measure be fore the house had been spoken of as a miserable one, and described by other contemptible epithets. No hon. member, by giving his vote for the second reading of the bill, should be prevented from making alterations in committee. For his part he should be very glad to see the basis of the court enlarged, and that the office should beenade more attractive to the members of the judicial bench and to the bar. With regard to the question of the prerogative, he thought that a considerable degree of confusion existed with respect to the right of the Crown to create peers forlife..•-Now, no person could doubt for a moment the right of the Crown to create life peers ; the question was, whether such peer was entitled to take his seat in the Houk of Lords. The bill before the house undoubtedly left the question undecided, but for the purposes of the act it puts a limitation on the number of peers to be created. There was nothing unconstitutional in such a limitation of the prerogative, for a limitation of that kind took place at the time of the Act of Union b ;th with Scotland and Ireland. What the house was called upon to do by the amendment was to say that the House of L rds was wrong in taking the view it had done with respect to its own privi leges, by passing the bill. Were they in a condition to pronounce this opinion in the face of the universally ac knowledged right of the House of Lords to be the judge of its own privileges ? If the Crown and the House of Lords were iu accord on this subject, was it right for the [louse of Commons to step in and say that no such con cord or agreement should exist!? He trusted that this bill, which, by the unanimous concurrence of all those who had practised in the House Of Lords for many years, was con sidered as highly acceptable, would not be refused a second readily! by the House of Commons. (Hear.) The house then divided, when there appeared— For the second reading Against it 142 Majority for the second reading --49 The bill was then read a second time. INGUMBERED ESTATES (IRELA.ND) BILL. The house went into committee on this bill. Clauses I and 2 were agreed to. O❑ clause 3, Mr. WHITESIDE said the select committee en the bill proposed the court should consist of two commissioners only instead of three as at present, and ho moved the in troduction of a clause in the bill providing for the removal of 11Ir. Baron Richards, and that the staff of that learned gentleman should he divided among the otker two. A sav ing would accrue to the state of the salary of the commis sioners removed, without injury to the constitution and working of the court. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL for IRELAND said that legislation on the subject would be unwise and unnecessary —for the clause of the act at present in operation limited the number of commissioners to not more than three. By reason of the want of judicial strength in the court the ar rears were so great that it would be impossible for two eommissioners to get through its business satisfactorily to the suitors. He could noLconsent to the introduction of the clause, which would have the effect of disarranging the working of the court. After some remarks from Mr. WHITESIDE, in expla nation. _ _ Sir J. GRAHAM expresuel his disapprobation at the bill being limited in its operation to one year. If it were extended to two years, the Government in the meantime would be able to reorganise its officers, and provide a bet ter court of appeal. He approved of the clause for reduc ing the number of commissioners to two, which would al low Mr. Baron Richards to return to his court in the Ex chequer and also go on circuit. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL for IRELAND said he had no particular wish to retain Mr. Baron Richards as chief commissioner. He objected to the clause as unneces sary, because by the present law the number could be re duced to two. The emergency of the business in the In cumbered Estates Court rendered it necessary that there should be three commissioners for the present to get rid of the arrears of business. The committee divided on the dense. The numbers were — Noes B3 Ayes —35 Majority. .. Mr. WHITESIDE t hen g ave notice that on the tkird reading he should raise t he same q uestio n again , and also c d h o a w ra h c a t t er he of h t a n d e n w ot ho b l e e fo t r r e an a s t a t c e t m io p n t . The bill then passed throug h com mittee, and the house —namely, expose the resumed. Mr. WHITESIDE then inquired when the bill was to be read a third time ? The ATTORNEY-GENERAL for IRELAND—This day. Mr. WHITESIDE—Then that is contrary to the forms of the house, and I shall object to it. The hon. and learned gentleman then said that the bill had passed directly contrary to the sense of the committee, and he should oppose it in every stage. MAGD ALEN HOSPITAL (BATH) BILL. This bill then passed through committee. ENDOWED SCHOOLS (MOULTON) BILL. This bill passed.through committee. COURTS OF COMMON LAW (IRELAND) BILL. This bill was read a third time and p assed. LUNATIC ASYLUMS (I gt or lage eharacterise the RELA.ND) BILL. The ATTORNEY-GENER AL for IRELAND moved that this order be discharg ed. that he could this measure, use conduct Co t l h o e n r eel of could uh U led N G N eox, E pe r er ns express s ide hisn tthw with feeling;t nh respect l n to and he should oppose the motion, and. move that the bill be considered immediately. Mr. HORSMAN said he could not understand that sudden ebullition on the part of the hon. and gallant gen tleman. The fact was, that an amendment that he (Col. Dunne) had carried, had made perfect nonsense of the bill, and, therefore, the Government moved that the order be discharged. Lord NAAS then moved the adjournment of the debate, on the ground of the unfai r conduct that had been pursued agree to the adjourn ment.wabTsehveewryobuiillnldcwonaysenaient to have bills by the Government. money bill, and po Mr pr . :o nma H seAd O i tGi ß awA S atN ll sh sa A sota N ildwa s tai a eyt i . d ought to have been introduced in a committee of the whole house. The debatp.was then adjourned. 'REVENUE (TRANSFER OF CHARGEI,OII,I6L. This bill passed through committee. COMMONS ENCLOSURE This bill was read a third time and pa sse d. NUISANCES REMOVAL (SCOTLAND) BILL. This bill passed through committee pro forma. CUSTOMS. Certain resoluti , ma with respect to the duties on imports of music%l instruments, &c., were then agreed to. JOINT STOCK COMPANIES BILL._ _ _ The Lords' amenaments to this bill wore considered and agreed to. The remaining orders of the day were then disposed of, and the house adjon rued at half-past two. PARLIAMENTARY DIVISION. HOUSE OF COMMONS.-JULY 7. APPELLATE JURISDICTION (HOUSE OF LORDS) BILL. Order for Second Heading read ; Motion made, and Question proposed, " Th at the Bill be now •r ad a second time e ." Amendment proposed, to leave out the word " now," and at the end of the Question to add the words " upon this day ;three months :" Question put, " That the word now' stand part; of the QuestiOn Hnuse divided; Ayes 191, Noes 142. ' AYES-- 191 . . • .., , : Agnew, Sir A. Gooch, Sir E. Mundy, W. • Annesley, Earl of ' 'Graharn, Lord M. • . Naas, Lord . Antrobus, E. Greene, Thomas Napier, J. Archdall, Capt. M. Gregson, Samuel.. Neeld, John Atherton, W. Greville, Colonel F. Newark, Viscount Baines, lit: lion. M. Grey, Itt; Hon. , Sir G. Newdegate, C. Baird, J. Grey, It. Newport, Viscount Ball, E. - Grogan. Edward ! Norreys, Sir D. Ball, J. Hale, Robert North, Col. J . , Baring, 11. Hall, Sir Benjainin O'Connell, D. . Barrington, Vist. Hamilton,Lord Claud Oliveira, B. . • Beckett, W. Hamilton, R. C. N. Osborne, It. Bective, Earl Hardy, G. Paget, Lord A. Bentinck, G. Hayes, Sir E. Pakington; Sir J. Berkeley, F. Heard, J. Palmer.Roundell Bethel, Sir It. Heathcote, G. Palmerston, Viscount Biddulph, Col. R. N. Homage, Geo. F. , Peel, Sir R. Diandford, Marquis of Henley, J. Peel, Gen. Boldero, Col. IL G.' Herbert, IL Pennant, Col. E. Bouverie, Hon. E. P. Herbert, Sir T. Philipps, J. Bromley-Moore, J., Higgins, G. 0. . . Bolt, P.. , - Brand, H. B. W. Hildyard, R. C. Russell, F. W. Bruce, Lord E. Horsfall, T. Rust, James Buckley, Gen. . Horsman, E. Scully.V Buller, Sir J. - Hughes, W. - - Seymer, H. Iturrowes, Robert Johnstone, 3. Sibthorp, Major Campbell, Sir A. I. - Jolliffe, Sir W. Smith, R. • ' Carnac, Sir J. R. • Jolliffe, 11. Smith, Abel • Cayley, E. S. Jones, Admiral ~ • Smyth, John Cecil, Lord ,sing, J. • . , gpooner,R. Chambers, T. ." - Kingscote, Capt R. • • Stafford, A; ' - • Chelsea, Viscount Knatchbull, W. •Stafford, Marquis Christy, Samuel Kn'ght, F. - - Stanhope, J. Clive, R.. ~. • . :,_... Knightley, ft. , _, 'tat'tley,, Lsord . . Cockburn, Sir A. J. la. Labouchere,Re.lion.li Starkie, Le G. Cole, H. A. ' Laslett, W. - Steel, John •• • %;: l • .• • Coles, 11. - Lemon, Sir C. Stracey, Sir H. Col.ier, R. P. . '-t ' .Lentox, Lord .4. F. , Stewart, Sir M.:, , . .„ Conolly, T, Leslie. C. P. Sutton, J. Corry, H. T. L. Lewis, Sir 121. C. • . Taylor, Colonel Cowper, W. Liddell, H. G. Thesiger, Sir. F. Craufurd, E. H. J. •• • Lindsay, Col. ./...-- Vance, John. - , Dalkeith, Earl . Littleton, E. • Villiers, Q. Davies, D. • ' Lockhart, - W. ' • Waddington, 1). ' - • Deedes, William . • Lovoine, Lord • Waddington, H. • Dering, Sir B. • - Lowe, R. ' - '" - - Watpdle: S. ' Disraeli, B. , . Lowther, Col. H. C. . - Welsh, Sir .T. , - Drumlanrig, Vie. • Luce. T. - ' ' ' "Wafren, S. ''' •"- Duncan, Viscount, Lushirkton, C. M. • Watkins, Col., : ,, z L , Dunlop, A. kacartney,G: - " " - wettiy; Sir G.' - Elm'ey, Viscount - . 3l'Ojegor, John L ..:. yir_ha4an, J. •: c I L ; Esmonde, J. Malins, Richard Whiteside, .r. Farnham,.E. .. . Mangles,.s. D, , Wilitmore:„ll., .1 _-_ Feliden, M. March, Earl of Wigratn, Loftus T. Fellowes, E. - • Massey,, W. •• -i ~, . WillouglahnSir.ll:„ ii Ferguson. Sir R. Matheson, Sir J. . Wilson, J. , Fitzgerald, J. liiles, W. L .• '• W•pod, Sir C:., - • , ;• Fitzvrilliam, G. Milner ,W. M. E. Wrightson, W. Follett, B. S. • • Moffat; G. - • '''. - Wyndham, It. • -.- • - Forester, Col. , Monck, Vis. ; , , Wyndham. W. / Freestun, Colonel Moncreiff, J. ' . - Wynne, W: "1 .' ' Freshfield, J. Morgan, 0. . . _ ..; : .• Galway; Viscount' MostYn, E. ' • ' ' rmorma.—•'•---' Gilpin, Col. li. • , ,Mowatta. '. Hayter, W. , ~ Goddard; A. Mowbroy, J.R. 31tilgravt,`,Earld' • • ' NOES-142. • - - • - _ . _. Adair, R. Gladstone, Capt. .T. Phillimore, J. G. , inderson, Sir J. Goderich, Viscount Pigott, P. Baldock, R. H. Gordon, A. Pilkintr , ton J. ,<? Baring, Sir F. Graham, Sir J. Portman, W. - - Barnes, T. Greene, John Price, Sir R. Baxter, W. Grenfell, Charles Price, W. Beaumont, W. Gurney, I. H. Pritchard, j . . Biggs, John Hadfield, George . Ricardo, 0. Black, Adam _ Hamilton, J, Ricardo, S. Blackburn, Peter H.inkey, T. . Rice, E. Bonbam-Carter, .1. Harcourt, G. G. - Rich, H. • - t Bramston, T. W Butte, Alex. Ridley, George Brocklehurst, J. Headlam, T. Robartes,- T. • • Brotherton, J. Heathcoate, Sir W. Roebuck, J. A. Brown, W. Hogg, Sir J. W. Russell, Lord J. Bruce, H. A. Holland, E. Russell, F. C. Butt, G. M. Hotham, Lord Sawle; C. Ityng, G. H. C. Howard, C. Serope, G. Cardwell, E. Hutchins, E. Shafto, R. Cavendish, G. C. Ingram, H. Shee, Serjt. W. Chambers, M. Kendall, N. Shelley, Sir J. - Cheetham. John Kennedy, T. Smith, J. B. Clay, Sir W., Et. Kershaw, J. Smollett, A. Cobbett, J. M. King, L. Somerville, Sir W. Colvile, C. R. Ktnnalrd, A. Stirling, W. Compton, H C, Langston, J. H. Strickland, Sir G. Cowan, C. Langton, H. G. Strutt, lion. E. Crossley, F. Lascelles, E. • Stuart, Captain Currie, Raikes Layard, A. 11. Tancred, 11. Davie, Sir H. H.P. Lennox. Lord H. G. Tempest, Lord A. V. Denison, E. melte. J. Thompson, G. Denison, J. E. 31 acEroy, E. Thornely, T. De Vere, S. E. M'Cann, J. Thornhill, W. Dillwyn, L. L. MacGregor, James Tottenham, C. • Duncan, George Vernon, G. D r) u n t n ic e o ° ln n b b e e , i1 11 0 0 n n . .17 --i le r .." M3 M I a i ag l g li va gTn eW , ' H i. . F. Vivian, 11. H. • Walmsley, Sir J. Egerton, W. Milnes, R. Watson, W. ' ' Ewart, W. Michell. William Whitbread, S. Ewart, J. Moore, G. Wickham, H. Fenw ek, H. Morris, D. Wilkinson ' W. Ferguson, Colonel Napier, Sir C. Williams,, W. Ferguson, J. O'Brien, P. Wortley, J. S. Fergusson, Sir J. Palk, L. Wyvill, M. Fitzgerald, W. R. S. Paxton, Sir J Foley, J. H. Yeacocke, G. TELLERS. Forster, Charles Pechell, Sir G. Forster, John Poll itt, A. PhlU'more, R. J. Gaskell, J. Perry, Sir E. - Bowyer, 0. PAIRS. FOR. AGAINST. Vyse, Colonel Hindley, Mr. Smith, Mr. M. Dundas, Mr. G. Vernon, Captain Reed, Major Fuller, Mr. Duueombe, T. Paget, Lord G. Evans, Sir De L. Berkeley, Sir G. Glyn, Mr. Verner, Sir W. Williams, Colonel Raynham, Lord Warner, Mr. E. Berkeley, Sir M. Gladstone, Mr. Clifford, Colonel M'Taggart, Sir J. Ponsonby, Mr. Divett, Mr. Robertson, Mr. North, Mr. F. Cubitt, Mr. Tito, Mr. Mackiuncn, Mr. Irton, Mr. York; Mr. Keating, Mr. Dashwood, Sir G. Duke, Sir J. Peel, Mr. Fox, Mr. W. Hamilton, Mr. G. M'Mahon, Mr. EXHIBITION OF ART TREASURES OF THE UNITED KINGDOM. MANCHESTER, 1557. LETTER FROM H.R.H. PRINCE ALBERT. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. Sin,—May I ask yon to invert in your pap9r the ac companying letter from his Royal Highness Prince Al bert to the president of our intended Manchester Exhibi tion. 'When permission was Fought to make this valued com munication public, Lord Ellesmere was informed that his Royal Highness's letter was not intended for publi cation, but that as it was written in the hope of being useful to the committee, the Prince condescended to leave it ei l itirely to them to make such use of it as might best serve their purpose.—l have, &c., (Signed) THOMAS FAIRBAIRN, . _ . Chairman to Executive Committee. Manchester, July 7. ._ . (Copy.) My dear Lord Ellesmere,—l was very sorry not to see you with the deputation from Manchester that came to me yesterday upon the subject of the exhibition of art treasures which it is proposed to open in May, 1857. Lord Overstone, however, as well as the other members of the deputation, left nothing to desire in explaining the objects which they have in view. I could not fail to admire the public spirit which has prompted the people of Manchester to enter upon so large and magnificent an undertaking. e had a good deal of discussion upon its general principles, upon the soundness and fitness of which much of its future success must necessarily depend. Manchester enters upon this undertaking nt a certain disadvantage. It has been preceded by the Exhibition of 1851, that of Dublin in 1853, and that of Paris during the last year. That a mere repetition of what has thus gone before would fail to attract sufficient notice and public support, appears to have been felt by the com mittee ; and they most wisely gave a distinctive charac ter to their scheme, by making it an exhibition of what may emphatically be called the art treasures of this country. How to succeed in collecting such treasures, fondly cherished as they are by their owners, who are justly jealous of their safety, is the problem to be solved. In my opinion, the solution will be found in the satis factory proof of the usefulness of the undertaking. The mere gratification of public curiosity, and the giving an intellectual entertainment to the dense population of a particular locality, would be praiseworthy in itself, but hardly sufficient to convince the owners of works of art that it is their duty, at a certain risk and inconvenience, to send their choicest treasures to Manchester for ex hibition. That national usefulness might, however, be found in the educational direction which may be given to the whole !cherce. No country invests a larger amount of capital in works of art of all kinds than England ; and in none, almost, is so little done for art education ! If the col lection you propose to form were made to illustrate the history of art, in a chronological and systematic arrange ment, it would speak powerfully to the public mind, and enable, in a practical way, the most uneducated eye to gather the lessons which ages of thought and scientific research have attempted to abstract ; and - would pre , sent to the world, for the first time, a gallery such as no other country could produce, but for which, I feel con vinced, the materials exist abundantly in private hands amongst us. As far as painting is concerned, I enclose a catalogue exhibiting all the different schools, with the masters who illustrate them, which able hands have compiled for me, and which was communicated to the National Gal lery Committee of 1853, and printed by them with the evidence. If such a catalogue, for instance, were find up with the specimens of the best paintings by the different masters enumerated in it, which exist in this country, I feel certain that the committee would come with very different powers of persuasion and a very different claim to attention to their owners, than when the demand for the loan of certain of their pictures was apparently de pendent upon mere accident or caprice. A person who would not otherwise be inclined to part with a picture would probably shrink from refusing it if he knew that his doing so tended to war the realisation of a great national object - . The same principle might be adopted with regard to the other branches of art, extending even into the field of manufacturing industry. Whatever may be the decision of the committee, I assure you it will give me the greatest pleasure to g i ve you any feeble assistance in support which I may be enabled to render. And I may at the same time repeat to you the assurance of tie Queen's Lest wishes for the success of your labours.—Ever yours truly, Buckingham-palace, July 3,1856. ALBur. Sporting Intelligence. TATTERSALL'S-MONDAY. The dulness which has of late marked the business at "The Corner" was not broken this afternoon. Beyond paying and receiving, the subscribers had little to oecupy their attention. LIVERPOOL Cur.—Typee was in strong demand ; 5 to 2 way taken freely about her early in the afternoon, and subsequently 2to 1 was booked. The higher odds, however, were obtaivab!e at the close. Goldbill was not mentioned until near the termination of business, when it was announced that he had won at Stourbridge; 7 to 1 was then taken about him, but the outlay in his favour was inconsiderable. In certain quarters 100 to 5 was offered against Early Bird, but the only bona fide transaction about him which came under our notice was 200 to 14. The odds quoted against Brother to Grey Tominy were taken to 501. The other investments were in trifling amount.. GOODWOOD STAKES.—Zeta was somewhat unsteady. Indeed in the City, during the morning, 100 to 7 and 100 to 8 had been betted against her. When "opera tions" wore resumed this afternoon, 201. was invested on her at 9 to 1, but ultimately 10 to 1 was laid against her to about 751., and these odds were to the last currently offered on the field. 12 to 1, and finally 10 to 1, were taken to a little money about Bandalore. 100 to 6 was laid three times against Libellist, and afterwards 20 to 1 was offered. GOODWOOD COP.-5 to 1 was taken " kindly " about Yellow Jack, and those odds were not obtainable at the close. The last bet about him was 4to 1 ; odds which were freely offered against Fisherman. ST. LEGER.—Ellington was backed for 1001. at 4 to 1, and Fly-by-Night for the like amount at 10 to 1. DERBY.-2,000 to 300 were taken about Mr. Bowes's three " mixed, " Bel Oiseau, Bird-in-the-Hand, and Co lonist. 28 to 1, and finally 25 to 1, to upwards of 1001,, were taken about Zudyer Zee ; and the Sprig of Shille lagh was supported for nearly 4001. at 25 to 1. 25 to 1 was booked about Schiedam, but afterwards 30 to 1 to 1001. was laid. The other quotations do not require comment. CLOSING PRICES. LIVERPOOL Cur. sto 2 agst Typee (taken) 7to 1 agst Goldhill (taken) 8 to 1 agtt Marchioness (taken) 12 to 1 agst Brother to Grey Tommy (taken) 12 to 1 sgst Lady Tatt )n (taken) 100 to 7 agst Early Bird 20 to 1 agst Tom Thumb (taken) GOODWOOD STAKES. 10 to 1 agst Zeta (taken and offered) 10 to 1 agst Bandalore (taken and offered) 12 to 1 agst Swyndel Dhygga (taken) , 20• to 1 agst Libellist (offered) GOODWOOD CUP. 4to 1 agst Yellow Jack (taken and offered) 4to 1 agst Fisherman (offered) 6to 1 agst Monarque (taken) Bto 1 ag►st Muscovite (taken) 20 to 1 agst Nettle (taken) S. LEQER. 4to 1 agst Ellin:ton (taken) ' 10 to 1 agst Fly-b} -Night (taken) DERBY. 25 to 1 agst Bel Oiseau (taken) 25 to 1 agst Sprig of Shillelagh (taken) 25 to 1 agst Zuyder Zee (taken) 30 to 1 agst Schiedam (taken) 40 to 1 agst Blue Jacket (taken) 50 to 1 agst Lansdewn (taken) 1000 to 15 agst Lady Hawthorn (taken) 10,000 to 150 agst Glenmasson (taken) TREBLE EVENTS BETS. 1,000 to 10. agst Typee winning the Liverpool Cup, Zeta the Goodwood Stakeß, and Yellow Jack the Good wo,,d Cup. 1,000 to 10 agst Typee winniig the Liverpool Cup, Zata, the Goodwood Stakes, and Fisherman the Good wood Cup. _ 1,000 to 10 agst Typee winning the Liverpool Cup, Goidhill the Goodwood Stakes, and Fisherman the Goodwood Cup. 3,000 to 15 a gß t Goldhill winning both Liverpool Cup and Goodwood Stakes, and Fisherman the Goodwood Cup. STOURBRIDGE RACES-MONDAY. The Prestwood Stakes. Indian Q leen Van D um& Eight ran. Stourbridg Handicap. • Thnotheus Gay lad Seven ran. Won easily innkeepers' Plate. Miss Thrch Roving Betsey Three ran. All Captain White's horses are struck out of their en gagements at Liverpool. RECENT SECESSIONS FROM THE TURF.—Two gentle• men have recently seceded from the Turf, under pecu liarly unfortunate circumstauc?s. Their horses, in training, aro advertised to ha sold, by order of the sheriffs of Was and B,rks, on the 15;h inst. THE LATE MR. WORTHINGTON'S HORSES.—The fol lowing horses, in training, the property of the late Mv. Worthington, were sold by auction by Messrs. Tattersall on Mouthy : Gus. Lady Palmerston, by Melbourne, dam by Panta loon, 4 yrs old Adam, by Birdcatcher, out of Lady Palmerston's dam, 3 yrs old The Clown (own brother to Adam) 2 yrs old Kenerdy, by Birdcatcher, out of Collina, 2 yrs old 348 Sir. Humphrey, by Gamoboy, dam by C sick, 2 yrs old IRELAND. DUBLIN, MONDAY EVENING. TYE MASTER OF THE ROLLS AND THE IRISH ATTORNEY • GENERAL. At the sitting of the Rols Court this morning the Master made some extremely pointed remaike in reference to the observation of the Irish Attor ney-General, at the close of Friday's debate in the House of Commons, with regard to the case of Mr. James Sadleir and the conduct of the Irish officers. After alluding to the order made in the case of John Ginger and the English shareholders, the Master of the Rolls proceeded to ask— " Hay I now inquire, on the part of the public, whe ther informations have been sworn with respect to the facts disclosed in this case ? If so, have any effie tuAl or bona fide steps been taken to make any of the parties implicated amenable ? Is it intended to prefer a bill of indictment at the next Clonmel Assizes, where some of the overt acts were commit. ted ? I have reason to believe that not a copy of an affidavit or any document was ottainecl, by the directinn of tho law advisers of the Government, of tie Master's office, or from the official manager, 'until on or after the 20th of June, the day I gave judgment in this case ; though long prior to that date I had called attention to the fact that the Government had made no sign, not• withstanding the notoriety of the frauds of the Tipperary Joint-Stock B:mk. If the Irish Government were ig norant of all the details, it was their own fault. If the Crown solicitor had been directed to communicate with me before or atter I had given judgment, I should have referred him to several affi,lavits and documents, and given him the dates and particulars of each. I did not obtrude advice or information privately—first, because I believed then, and believe now, that it would have received no attention whatever from the Government for reasons which the public well know. I shall only add that, if no bona fide proceedings be taken at the next Clonmel Asbizes, the resul will be that the duty of a Privy Councillor, and the nature and mean• ing of the oath, will probably meet with more discussion than the Irish Government may be aware cf. His Honour concluded by expressing a strong opinion against the conduct of the Master in Chancery (Murpby), who, it seems, had examined Mr. James Sadleir in his private chamber, no person being present but the official manager and his counsel and solicitor. It could scarcely be considered to have been a purely voluntary examination unless Mr. James Sadleir was very strictly cautioned that it might be given in evidence against him, and if the examination should not, according to the principles of law, be used directly or indirectly to his prejudice." The observations of the Master of the Rolls were listened to with deep attention by a crowded court. [ADVERTISEMENT.] SIGHT sap HEARING. SPECTACLES, POWERFUL TELESCOPES, OPERA, RACE, AND PERSPECTIVE GLAsszs.—Messrs. S. and B. Solomons, opticians, 39, Alhe marle-street, Piccadilly. Observe—opposite the York Hotel By ker Majesty's Re) al Letters Patent for valuable and extraordinary improvements in the most powerful and brilliant Telescopes, Camp, Racecourse, Opera, and Per. upective Glasses, to know the distances of objects viewed through them—of great importance to the army, navy, and others. These telescopes possess such extraordinary powers that some three and a-half inches, with an extra eye. piece, will show distinctly Jupiter's moons, Saturtt's ring, and the double stars; with the same telescope can be seen a person's countenance three miles and a half distant, and an object from 16 to 20 miles. They are of larger and all sizes, vAth increasing powers accordingly ; while their vary ing from 4 to 6 inches enable us to discover more than the above and the Georgian, with his 6 satellites, kc.—The Royal Exhibition, 1851.—Valuable, newly-invented, very small, powerful waistcoat-pocket glass,the size of a walnut, by which a person can be seen and known 1 miles distant ; they answer every purpose on the race-course, and at the opera houses, country scenery, and ships are clearly seen at 8 to 10 miles. They are invaluable for shooting, deer-stalking, yachting, to sportsmen, gentlemen, gamekeepers, and tourists. Opera, race-course, camp, and perspective glasses, with wonderful power. Newly-constructed Spectacle Lenses of the great est transparent power. The valuable advantage derived from this invention is, that vision becoming impaired is preserved and strengthened, and very aged persons are enabled to employ their sight at the most minute occu pation- can see with these lenses of a much less magnify. ing power—and they do not require the frequent changes to the dangerous effects of further powerful assistance. Deafness—New Discovery.—The Organic Vibrator, an ex traordinary powerful, small, newly-invented instrument for deafness, entirely different from all o th er s, to surpass any thing of , the kind that has been, or probably ever can be, produced. Being of the same colour as the skin, is not per , coptible ; it , enables deaf persons to hear distinctly at churcl,; and at public assemblies ; the unpleasant sensation of singing noises in the ears is entirely removed ; and it affords all tt e assistance that possibly could be desired.-39, Albemarle , street, Piccadilly. Obecrve—opposite the York 1344 THE RETURN OP THE GUARDS. In our paper of Saturday we gave tile memorandum of the arrangements to be observed on the occasion of her Maj!bty reviewing the Brigade of Guards, on their re• turn to London from the Crimea. We have just received, from Sir Richard Airey, an amended copy of tbeidocu• mcnt, in which the alterations which have beenLmade will be found in the following paragraph : The column (each regiment preceded by its band) to move by "fours" along the Wandsworth-road, over Vaux hall-bridge; turn to the right along Crescent-read, New. Millbank-row, Millbank-street, Ab ngdon-street, _ 0 d Palace-yard, Margaret-street, • Perliatnett-street, Whitehall, up Whitehall to Charing-cr,ss, by coOkSpur street; along Pall-mall, and enter the Park by the gates between Marlborough House and St., Jamees ,Palace, and thence by original route to Buckingham Palace and Hyde-park. - FURTHER ARRANGEMENTS—BRIGADE ORDERS Some particulars from official orders have already been published, and the following Brigade Orders have since been issued as final : "Horse Guards, July 8. " Her Majesty having signified her gracious intention of reviewing the brigade of Foot Guards in Hyde Park on Wednesday next, the Field-Marshal Commanding in Chief desires that the four battalions, including the 2d battalion of Grenadier Guards, from Windsor, may be formed by a quarter before 12 o'clock on that day. The brigade wilt be formed in line of quarter distance columns, at 95 paces interval, lacin , Park-lane, the rest of the line resting upon the central clump of trees. " The band of the brigade will be at the Nine Elms Station of the South-Western Railway at half-past 10 o'clock on Wednesday next, to receive the traopi ' who will at once proceed to Hyde Park by th e route already marked out. On the ground officers appear in Guards' review order dress, with silk sashes, &c. " Upon the Queen entering the ground the Field- Marshal Commanding in Chief will present a return, &c., of the troops present, to her Majesty, in acco r d ance with the Army Regulations. FINAL DISPOSITION OF THE GUARDS AFTER THE OVATION TO-MORROW. The Guards will be disposed thus, as officially de cided : The Ist battalion of the Grenadier Guards, now at the Wellington Barracks, proceed to Aldershott. The 2d battalion of tha Grenadier Guards, now at Windsor, leave fur Dublin, there to be stationed ; and the 3d bat talion of the same corps just returned from the Crimea will move to the Wellington Barracks. The Ist battalion of the Coldstream Guards returned from the Crimea will proceed to the Tower of London ; and the 21 battalion of the same corps leave the Tower for Windsor. The Ist battalion of the Scots Fusiliers from the Crimea will occupy St. Geirae's Barracks, and the 2d battalion, from St. Geor ge ' s 'Barracks, will proceed to Aldershott— - Within the last few days the Soots Fusilier band has had the addition of a companion in the shape of a beau tiful white goal. Our readers may have seen already in the streets - a dark one, highly accoutred, that accotepa riic s the Grenadier Guards. The Scota Fusiliers Lave still in barracks the splendid stag which, having been in early life saved from the stalker and beagle, has now rttired" from active servico, owing to age, but he still enj , ys the kinine , s of his gallant corps. By some acci dent a short time since he was deprived of one of his burns. ROYAL VISIT TO ALDERSHOT GAUP. ACCIDENT TO VISCOUNT HA.RDINGE. The royal party, on their arrival at the Royal Pavilion, Aldershot Camp, yesterday afternoon, by the Duke of Cambridge, Lord Hardinge, Lord Panmpre, and the generals of the different brigades and regiments. Sh , rtly after reaching the Pavilion, and whilst lur Majesty was in conversation with the gallant veteran in the state room, an accident, of a somewhat singular na ture, occurred to Viscount Hardinge. The noble lord was seated on a couch, resting his arm on a table run ning on castors, and as he was about to rise, he leaned rather heavily on the table, which caused it to slip from under him, and losing his balance, he fell, injuring his foot. His lordship was raised from the ground ani re moved to head quarters, suffering much pain, and upon a surgeon arriving from the hospital department, it was found that the ankle was so swollen and inflamed that it was difficult to say whether the foot was sprained or fractured. At the request of the noble commander, he was remsved in an easy carriage ts Farnboroue, from whence he was conveyed by a special train to town, and thence to his residence. Her Majesty expressed gre tit anxiety at the occurrence, and repeatedly sent Coion.l Biddulph to make inquiries as to the noble viscount's progress. The weather proving very unfavourable, it was sag gested to her Maj -sty that it would be betttr to post pone the review. The Queen said a little rain would not harm her; and it was only on being notified that the men might suffer by being paraded during the rain tiirit her Majesty acceded to the suggestion. It was definitely arranged that the troops should be mustered so soon as the rain ceased. Orders were given fur every man to he in readiness ; and so complete were the ar rangements that it was etated that the men, numbering 16,000, could be cut in line inie , s than ten minutes after the word of command was given. Thu rain, however, . did not cease for a single moment. During the fore part of the day the let battalion of the Riff+ Brigade, 1,000 strong, under command of Lord A. G. Russell, marched into camp, beaded by their fine band. Of the original battalion who left for the Crimea, only 250 have returned to their native country. Her Majegly expressed a desire to welcome them, and the whole of the men were ordered under arms, and re mained for some time in the rain ready to march at a • moment's notice, hut the weather prevented an ir;...p ee . tion. Her Majesty wag to remain at the Pavilion until to- day, intenoing, t) proceed with the revitsv, when the weather allowed ; hut when our report left there seemed but little prospect of a favour,,ble change. To-morrow the Guards leave the camp, and the Rifles and 1 - ligh!andera ~hill do the same in the couNe of the week. MOTS AT ALDERSHOT. ALDERSHOT, July s.—Several slight disturbances took place yesterday betwe, n eight and nine o'clock, p.m., in some of the public-houses situated in or near the camp. It appears that some of the troops that recently re-, turned from the Crimea, by the way of celebrating their return to " merry old England," indulged rather freely. Numbers of soldiers were seen in a state of great ieso lotiety, the natural consequence of which was a regular ",et to." In two of those dens the Guards were fight ing with the Ist Royals ; in another place a disturbance took place between the Guards and the Germans. Order wa4, however, speedily restorcd. The officer in com mand of the G,rtnan Legion, having been informed of the row, ordered the alarm to be sounded for his corps ; and I ant informed by good authority that at roll call i.o man belonging to the German Legion can mirsing or drunk. THE LATE COLLISION IN THE MERSEY. --.t5-- LIVERPOOL, Monday.—hull details of the awful col lh,ion off the Reck Lighthowe, between the Dublin steamer Mail and the Belfast screw steamer Excelsior, hare been published to-day, fr.im which the followit g particulars have been obtained : The passengers consisted principally of labourers, who were coming over to the harvesting in this coun'ry, and nearly the whole of these poor men were lying slumber ing on the main deck, under the spar deck. Many of the poor creatures, from the violence of the concussion and the confusion and scrambling that ensued, fell into the water and were drowned. Six were killed on the spot, and the brains of some of them were scattered over the windlass and the damaged gearing of the fore part of the vessel. Their sufferings were short, but must, have been fearfully intense ; they were jammed to pieces by the bow of the Excelsior as they lay quietly in their places. It was an awful, indescribable spectacle. The dead and the wounded were in a heap together ; men who, a few minutes previously, were stout and pOwerful, were now lying still in death—mutilated and frightful corpses. It was thought at first that the Mail would sink in a few minutes after the accident occurred, but foitunately she made no water, and upon the Excelsior getting clear of the disabled vessel, which occupied a con siderable time, the Mail was able to proceed towards Liverpool. The Excelsior, which we believe escaped with trifling damage, left 15 fathoms of her chain and her anchor in the bow of the Mail before the vessels were disentangled. Captain Bailie, without loss of time, made for the Clarence pier -head, where he landed, those of his passengers who had sustained no injury. The captain of the Excelsior did not stop, but proceeded to sea. An inquiry into the cause of the collision will take place on Wednesday, before the coroner for Liver pool. THE MURDER BY A SPANIARD.—It will be recollected that, at the last session of the Central Criminal Court, a Spanish seaman, named Bernardo Henriquez I was convicted of the murder of one of hie country• men by. stabbing him with a dagger, and be was seri• tenced to death. It seemed that there had been some scuffle at an earlier period of the day in which the transaction took place between the prisoner and another seaman, during which he received some injury, and it appeared by the evidence that the prisoner stabbed the deceased man without having received any provocation. The jury, under these circumstances, were compelled to find the prisoner guilty of murder ; • but the whole of the facts having been laid before the Secretary of State for the Home Department, he consi dered himself justified in recommending the prisoner to ' the clemency of the Crown, and an order was on Satur day received at Newgate, commuting the capital sentence to one of transportation for 20 years. 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