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NOTICE. :n a few days, when the arranvements for that pur pose are accomplished, The Sun will be conside rably enlarged, and printed with a new and beauti ful type, cast expressly for this Paper by the cele brated Alex. Wilson and Sons, of Glasgow. -P _ C I DV (AIX:34 Q.‘ 11 1 14 - , LONDON, MONDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 17, 1834.. The University of Cambridge seems deter mined to maintain its pre-eminence in orthodox bigotry, and shut out from its recesses even the slightest ray of reform. Several of the heads of colleges and professors in the Uni versity, aware of the injustice done to Dis senters, as well as the injury which the University sustained by closing the door against a respectable and numerous body, signed a requisition to the Caput, for the purpose of instituting an inquiry into the restrictions on which degrees in medicine are granted. These restrictions are, that, no candidate can be admitted a Bachelor in Medicine unless he belongs to the Church of England, and no one can obtain the degree of Doctor in Medi- cine unless he subscribes to the three articles of the 36th canon. The Committee proposed to inquire into the expediency not of doing away with all religious tests, but simply to inquire whether the law might not be so altered as to admit all those who professed the Christian faith. The half dozen gentlemen who form the Caput, this six-headed Cerbe rus, growled at the very sound of reform, and then, like their three-headed prototype, laid themselves down to guard, in all their pompous dignity, the entrance to the sacred edifice. It makes no difference whether the person applying for admission be a PRIESTLY or a DAVY—the brightest genius—the most important discoveries in science—the most indefatigable labour in ad vancing the best interests of the human race—are all as a drop in the bucket when put in the balance against Church of Eng landism. No friend of the Church can approve of such narrow and bigotted policy. It is desirable that a person, who is called in to assist at the death-bed of a fellow creature, should be a believer in that faith which forms the last and surest consolation ; but is it necessary that he should be a believer in the 39 Articles? What connection have these with the healing art ? And why might not a Presbyterian or a Wesleyan be as fit and useful a physician as the most orthodox Protestant ? No rational answer can be given to the question, and we can conceive no reason for adhering to the exclusive system, not even the selfish reason 'which actuates the greater number of monopolists. The objection can arise only from the purest spirit of illiberality. The East India monopolists, the monopolists of rotten boroughs, of corn, tea, sugar, anti any other necessary of life, might adduce good rea son for resisting the intrusion of strangers, be cause by " these crafts they have their wealth ;" but the monopolists of degrees cannot pretend even to such an excuse ; on the contrary, their blind obstinacy has diminished the number of pupils has driven men of scrupulous, religious feelings to other schools, and deprived our Universities of the honour of having reared some of the brightest ornaments of the age. Oxford and Cambridge are the Old Sarums of medical honours, and their rottenness has created the new consti tuencies of Edinburgh and Dublin. It was this exclusive system which drove the Catholics from the Universities, and made way for the present occu pants, and unless the Legislature takes up the ques tion, the same illiberal spirit will bring about a se cond revolution. We despair of the Universities and the Church introducing substantial reform; anti we therefore trust, for the honour and se curity of both, that no confidence will be placed in them, anti that measures will without delay be adopted for giving them constitutions suitable to the advancement of the age, and to the gene ral feeling of the nation. The Hon. Member for Worcester, Mr. Ro- BINSON, seems disposed to try the test of re form upon the financial burdens of the country. He is one of the few popular representatives who are aware that Parliamentary reform would, in' itself, be of little benefit to the people, unless its practical objects should also be effected, of providing the means by which some portion of our taxation should be rendered less oppressive on productive industry. _ _ When the House of Commons was for the most part comprised of Members who were returned either by the recommendation of the aristo cracy, or the weight of their own pecuniary in fluence, it could scarcely be expected that any attempt to re-adjust taxation, and throw off a portion of its weight from the productive to the affluent clasies, would receive much attention ; but when the invigorating infusion of popular representation, was thrown into the National Assembly by means of the Reform Bill, we certainly hoped, that any proposal which might tend to the amelioration of our financial difficulties, would at least receive un prejudiced attention and patient investigation. Mr. ROBINSON'S motion, last session, for a Select Committee, was negatived by a nume rous majority, and indeed the same indisposi tion towards anything like a property tax, which was a striking characteristic of the unreformed Parliament, appears to have obtained too much influence amongst the present Members. Al though the word " property tax" has been made a leading feature in Mr. ROBINSON'S motion, yet perhaps we may correctly class his propo sal under the more extensive view of a com mutation of the taxes, and thus at once render his measure a precursor of the numerous proposals which already crowd the motion list. If by any safe means (and several have been proposed) we could relieve the country from the immediate pressure of a few millions of taxation, there would be no great difficulty in uniting the proposals of Sir HENRY PARNELL, Sir WILLIAM INGILBY, Colonel To RRENS, and others. Our contemporaries of the daily press appear to have been as inattentive to this important branch of our national polity as the Members of the House of Commons; but we have observed with satisfaction many inte resting and able articles in the provincial papers and monthly periodicals, where the subject has been candidly treated, and such arguments have been adduced as leave little doubt in our mind that Mr. ROBINSON'S motion will be a most important one to the country, and that the ap pointment of a Select Committee ought to have the universal agreement ofthe House of Commons. We rejoice to find that Mr. BAINES has been returned for Leeds. He is a thorough man of business ; liberal in his politics ; and well ac quainted with the wants and wishes of the constituency which he represents. The high Tories, of whom Sir JOHN BECKETT was put forward as the organ, made a desperate effort to oust him ; tricks and manoeuvres of all sorts, we understand, were had recourse to ; but the Leeds electors were too shrewd to be duped by such stale artifices, and nobly resolved to return the man of their choice. So the son-in-law of the great Magnate of the North is thrown overboard, and has nothing left for it but the consolation that virtue is its own reward ! We wish him joy of this recompense, taking for granted, how ever, that he would have preferred a more sub stantial one. The Paris Papers of Friday and Saturday have been received, but they do not add much to our previous intelligence from the Continent. In another column we have given some ex tracts, and an article relative to Spain from a Morning Contemporary. The meeting of the Cortes is looked forward to with great interest in the Peninsula, and we sincerely hope that their labours may hasten the amelio ration of that distracted and long misgoverned country. As the liberal cause seems to triumph in Spain, the virulence of the Carlist faction increases in proportion. The conduct of the QUEEN _RE GENT is now made to appear in a most odious light by reports (whether false or true we cannot say) that she is following the course of her sister, the Duchess de BERRI, by taking a young officer of the Guards into her particular favour. If true, such conduct is not more scan dalous than impudent, in her peculiar position—and if false, as we hope, such report shows pretty clearly the desperate shifts to which the Carlists are put. The French Chamber of Deputies will be dissolved after the Budget is voted ; hence the lukewarmness manifested by many of the Members in the discussion of great public questions on which their constituents entertain certain national prejudices ; particu lady those relative to free trade. We trust that in a short time our friendly neighbours may become more enlightened, and that they will meet us frankly in the true spirit of reciprocity. German Papers have been received : they con ain nothing important. MPERIALPARLIAMENI' THIS DAY. MONDAY, FEB. 17. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the chair at the usual hour. Mr. DIVETT brought in a Bill for removing the mar kets and fairs from the high streets of the city of Exeter, and providing accommodation in other places. The Bill was read a first time. Mr. SHAW LEFEVRE moved for leave to bring in a Bill for tl e improvement of Grosvenor-place, founded on _ _ a petition from the inhabitants of that part of the city. —Leave granted. Mr. HAWES moved the second reading of the Lam beth 'Waterwork, Bill. The Bill wai read a second time, and ordered to be committed. Mr. POTTER brought in a Bill to unite the Wigan and Preston Railway Company. Sir OSWALD MOSLEY moved fur leave to bring in a Bill for the enclosure of Waste Lands in a parish in the county of Stafford —Leave granted. Mr. WILSON FATTEN moved the second reading of :he Liverpool Gas Company B.ll.—Read a second time. The Hon. Gentleman also moved the second rending of the Bainley Market Bill.—Read a second time. Mr. HODGSON presented a petition from the Super. intendents and otlnTs connected with the Sunday Schools of the Town of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, for the better observance of the Sabbath. On the question that it do lie on the table, _ . Mr. COBBETT rose and said, that he thought some provision should be made by which the Hon. Members of that Howe might be better enabled to observe the Sabbath.—(Hear, and laughter.) Last Friday night the Navy Estimates were laid upon the table of that House, containing forty-five folio pages, and upwards of 1,200 money items, which were all to be called on and decided upon that night. Taking into account the time employed in eating, drinking, and sleeping, he (Mr. C.) should have had only the Sabbath Day to examine those accounts.—(Hear, and laughter.) He agreed with the Honourable Gentleman Mr. Hodgson, that the Sabbath ought to be observed, but he (Mr. C.) could not do so last Sunday without neglecting his duty to his consti tuents. He hoped that the discussion on these estimates would be postponed. Lord ALVANLEY presented a petition from the in habitants of the Royal burgh of Stirling, complaining of the Church patronage exercised in that town. The petitioners begged that they might revert to the state in which things were in the year 1645, when the election was in the hands of the people. He trusted that when the subject of Church patronage cause before the House it would meet with due consideration. Mr. F. O'CONNOR presented a peirion from the county of Wexford, for the repeal of the Legislative Union. As there was a very large attendance of Mem bers who had business which would occupy the attention of the House, be would merely observe, in answer to the allegation of some Membe,s, that this question was losing ground, that at the Dungarvan election the in fluence of the Duke of Devonshire and the Conservatives bail been overturned by the voice of the people, in favour of the repeal of the union. The petition was laid on the table. The same HoN. MEMBER gave notice of a motion for the 24th of next month, relative to the tenure of land in Ireland. Mr. CUTHBERT RIPON presented a petition from the dissenters of the borough of Gateshead, praying for the removal of all grievances affecting them in their reli gious profession.—Ordere i to lie on the table. Mr. STAVELEY presented a petition from the borough of Ripon, in favour of the better observance of the Sabbath.—Ordered to lie on the table. Mr. lIUTT presented a petition from upwards of 6,000 electors of Kingston-upon-Hull, praying for the reeegni• tion of a new constitution of their municipal corpora tion. The petitioners expressed a hope, and be united cordi ally with them, that the new measures which were under stood to be under the consideration of Government would be such as to place that municipal corporation on a po pular basis.—(Hear.) He bad seen with some alarm a Bill to be introduced into the House, and proposed by the Lord Chancellor in another place, in which measures were set torah which would give anything but satisfaction to the jieople of England.—(Hear.) The corporation referred to in the petition bore some resembl.ince to the present corporation of the city of London, which was not disbored by many blots found in similar institutions, but was very far from being suited to the present enlightened times.—(Hear.) Excellent as that corpoiation was, how ever, he was persuaded that it was any thing but the per fection of human wisdom, and ►.e would refer in portico __ lar to the establishment of Aldertnanie Courts.—(Hear.) That such should exist, without full responsibility, ap prared to him to be a solecism of the grossest nature.— ( Hear, hear.) He hoped Ministers would bring forwar I measures on this subject woi thy of the authors of the great Reform Bill.—(Hear.) Mr. O'CONNELL said, though there was no Minister present, he hoped the observations made by the Hon. Member who presented the petition would reach them. When the Noble Lord (Afthorp) opened his budget he held out hopes of some ameliorations besides those which he dwelt upon more particularly, but he was totally silent on corporation reform.—(Hear.) He (Mr. 0 . C.) knew that this subject engrossed considerable attention in Ireland as well cs in England —(Hear.) Mr. PRYME said he had been requested to support the prayer of that petition. A great portion of the evils arising from corporate misgovernment, originated in the practice of electing aldermen and magistrates fur life.— (11 ar, hear.) '1 hat opinion was now prevailing through- out the country, and upon this practice the most decided disapprobation vs as expressed.—(Hear.) Ia regard to Ministers being silent respecting corporate reform, be begged leave to remind tie House that the report of the Corporation Cotninissionc,s was not yet made, and that it would oe vet y voluminous when complete. Mr. O'CONNELL, in expl ination, said, that the very same observation would apply to the poor rate laws, the report of the Commissioners of Inquiry into that subject was not yet made; so that he was afraid Ministers did not intend to go as far with Corporation Reform as they ought to do. The petition was ordered to lie on the table. Mr. 0 - 1/WYER presented petitions from Mr. Cowell and Mr. Edward Attield, two surgeons of Drogheda, praying for a revision of the Apothecaries Act in Ireland. To lie on the table. Mr. HODGES presented a petition for leave to bring in a Bill to enlarge the powers of the Crouch-hill Im provement Act.—Leave given. The Hon. Member also presented a petition from the County of Kent, praying for a commutation of tithes. Mr. CUTLAR FERGUSSON rose to give his cordial consent to the prayer of thdt petition, and trusted th it if any measure should be introduced, it would not be one re• quiring to be periodically renewed, but of a permanent duration.—(Hear, hear.) He hoped the charge would he fixed upon the land as it was 200 years ago, and thought if England could only obtain what Scotland did - ,;.00 years ago it would be a great blessing. Nothing could be more monstrous than a scheme by which land was taxed for its improvement far beyond the profit which could be derived from it. He tor,k that oppor tunity of correcting a misunderstanding which had gone forth relative to what ho had on Friday said respecting Mr. M'Culloch's doctrines and proposed scheme of corn laws. He had been made to say that the plan would throw 500,000 agricultural labourers out of employ. He said no such thing ; but he would refer to the 88th No. of tbeEdinburykßeview, to show that such an infrence might be drawn from the doctrine laid down by Mr. M'Culloch, who was of opinion, that if men should be thrown out of employment by his scheme, they would easily obtain it elsewhere—an opinion in which he (Mr. F.) could not agre e. It should also be understood, that he (Mr. M'Culloch) was ❑ot speaking of the total abolition of the corn laws, as had been represented. Mr. 11PCulloch he believed to be a sincere friend to the agricultural interest, an d h ie ing himself a landholder, it was not likely that be would designedly propose any scheme which he knew might prove adverse to that interest. • Mr. COBBEIT considered that the doctrines put for- ward by Mr. Macculloch should be discussed elsewhere than in this House. He would ask whether any harm was done by absenteeship from Ireland, by the spending of fortunes - and rents 'collected there at Rome and Paris ?—(Hear, hear.) The petition laid on the table lust now for the commutation of tithes was indefinite, so much so, that it would mean anything. The Hon. Member's opinion was, in his mind, quite untenable. He took it for granted that tithes were injurious to agriculture —in fact, that their existence was an impediment to agri cultural improvements. But it should be remembered that tithes had existed a thousand years ago, and he would put it to the Honourable Member whether agriculture had not been in a high state since ; all the shtep shearing and cattle shows took place since then, and agriculture had arrived to the greatest improvements. Tithes were taken in kind, and if any commutation took place, the paying of them in kind would be of the great est service. The Hon. Member for Kent must know that during the war husbandry had advanced ; drilling and the application of machinery, new manures, bones were used for the purpose of manure, and he at present under stood that bones were being imported for the purpose, and a great outcry raised here,—(A laugh.) It was a bad argument to make use of that tithes, were an impediment to agriculture; it was one upon which their opponents could beat them easily. He should be glad to know whether, if tithes went, would the enormous pensions and sinecures he dealt with in the same way ? He (Mr. C.) was always an advocate for giving the parsons nothing but glebes, and to allow them to depend upon voluntary contributions ; and last year a petition was brought up, in which it was shown that the clergy would be better off with such an arrangement. There were seven parishes not far from London in which 5,0001. a year was collected ; yet the seven clergymen enjoyed only 2481. ; the rest going amongst lay and clerical impropriators. If a proper al teration were made in the collection and disposal of tithes, .hey would be rather a good than an evil. Mr. CUTLAR FERGUSSON stated, in explanation, that his argument went to show that tithes pressed upon the industry of the people. Mr. O'CONNELL considered tbrt there was no tax more discouraging to the people than tithes ; and he was astonished that the Hon. Member for Oldham, possessing, as he did, such powerful common sense, held the contrary opinion. He would coincide with the Hon. Member for Oldham'a plan concerning the appropriation of a glebe to each parser, and allowing those who were preached to by the parson to support him.—(Hear, hear.) It was fa:se that a people could not support a Church, for the poorest people in the world supported one, not in splen dour certainly, but in a manner compatible with the dig nity and comfort of the clergy. He alluded to the people of Ireland, who supported the Roman Catholic Church in all its gradations—Archbishops, Bishops, Deans, Arch deacons, Parish Priests, and Curates: there was no forced levy made on that people—they did all voluntarily; and when a people in such poverty were able to do so, it was lan experiment, the success of which proved that the peo ple of England could do so much more easily; but then no man who did not work received any pay—(Hear, hear)—and it was the best stimulant to the exertions of the clet gy, th it their reward should be commensurate with their labour. Sir 11. W. RIDLEY said he did not agree with those who thought that the Church could be supported by vo luntaryeeatthaeiisctlaekregyhatdo letraibeuatiaoininsonsuffideceieenateyt.o eAnaghrl gone forth with respect to the measures which it was the ive w itl o ev n to tithes ; and it wa s now generally expected that any the G o vernment should br in g forward for the plan which intention of his Maj est y 's Ministers to propose with resp ect commutation of tithes would amount to a total abolition. He would put it to those to whom his arguments were addressed whether the abolition of tithes would be, in fact, giving any advantage to the occupiers of land ? Landlords must know that if tithes were totally abo fished, land would be far more valuable to the tenant, and the landlord would get a better rent ; so that the only difference would be that the tithe would go into the pocket of the landlord and not the clergyman.—(Hear, hear.) He would willingly support any measure for the commutation of tithes that would get rid of the present vexatious manner of collecting them, but he would oppose any plan that would merely transfer tithes from the pockets of the clergy to those of the landlord. Mr. HODGES said that since the war the tithe system had been pressed to an extent that was extremely preju dicial. He knew himself more than one large and at one time, flourishing parish, that had been totally ruined by tithes. He trusted that the measure which would be brought for ward by the Government, whatever it might be, would be temperately and fairly discussed, and be sin cerely trusted that it would dissipate that uncertainty and those disagreern:nts which prevai'ed under the present system. The petition was then ordered to lie on the table. Mr. PLUMPTRE presented a petition which he said was signed by 1,000 freeholders of the Isle of Tbanet, with respect to the regulations of the Trinity House with regard to the superannuation allowance made to pilots, and complaining that there was no regular account of the receipts and expenditure of the Pilots' Fund. The peti tioners complained that the superannuation allowance to the pilots had been reduced from 40/. a year to eight guineas, and that out of the 180 almshouses only twenty were appropriated to the use of the superannuated pilots, whilst the rest of them were tilled by the friends of the captains of vessels, who had never contributed to the fund. They complained also that the mast rs of docks, porters, &c. &c., who contributed but little or nothing to the fund, received very large allowances, while the pilots themselves were in the most distressing circum stances, and actually dying from want, or reduced to the poor-houses upon a very small pittance. He would not venture to say that all the facts contained in the petition were accurately stated, but he was sure that the House would agree with him that the facts demanded inquiry. Mr. A. CHAPMAN replied to the Hon. Member on the part of the Corporation of the Trinity-house, but as he spoke in a very low tone of voice and with his back to the gallery, vary few of his observations were heard. We understood him to sly that the complaints made by the petitioners were totally without foundation, that the Cor poration distributed the funds exactly in the way they were ordered to do by Act of Parliament, and that the accounts of the Corporation were laid on the table of that House 20 days after the commencement of every session. Mr. O'CONNELL presented a petition front Clondal kir!, in the county of Dublin, praying for the repeal of the Legislative Union. He would not tut they detain the House on the present occasion, than by observing that the petition was most respectably signed—the first name to it being the signature of a gentleman who was one of the oldest Grand Jurors in the county, and who only a very short time ago held very different sentiments on the question. If any of the Ministers had been present he would have asked them to look at that petition—at the effect of the language which they had put into his Ma jesty's mouth. The petition was most cordially supported by Mr. Frrz - SIMON and Mr. RuTrives. Mr. O'CONNELL torn presented petitions for the re peal of the Legislative Union, from the parish of Crews town, in the county of Meath, from the parishes of L.dy's Island, Gorey, Templetown, and St. Josses's, in the county of Wexford, from Carnew, arid the men of Shillelagh—(A laugh)—from Kilmartin, and several pa rishes in the county of Cork. Also, petitions from nearly all the above places for the total abolition of tithes. Mr. PLUMPTRE said he could not let that opportunity piss without expressing his extreme sorrow that the peti tioners had n led into so much delusion upon those two subjects. They could not possibly entertain any thing like the slightest hope that either the one or the other of their petitions would be granted. They c-aild not foragtwhievaret u p theyme i t s o t h t d u e : tep t i l iii : ol:( s ies u ree p tlnyy p eeo ( m ): e itefi t i: f ;rc a t ni:o t t i rr l me e h,ol ß iiman ri te t oin i: ett l i l ietb P lie: (la a :un r e gd l v i hes a ot m fi e ttt n hh t poasot w es : w : ii t il l hi l al t oet l r would soon petition. He come lle t d rt i mi i i e ,g ( ae l h u u n ( Fit 3 n l e t eu( d )r i n v , , . d o a ae u : n r i ist : l l eti hi ; s urri e g l n i ow o t bo p h: e t (ol o ithe t hn l a t e i Idea) obedience to h (ts)t o : e=tysitihete:musta o(nillyeai . proceeded T notwithstanding ie gi t ra l o re wa icnagnstit feelingsu statements tion of only again express his sorrow that they had been so grossly Union ntAihloern. people Ups inevitable.—(Hear.) down,iws a feltrepea l e p aal o f con vince d , o tlie ng f the people of that country rendered it almost impossible ultimately to doubt of success. With reference to the abolition of tithes, a pretty strong opinion had been ex pressed in England, and those opinions had been as strongly expressed in Ireland. Mr. A. JOHNSTONE trusted that there were not many intelligent persons either in this country or Ireland who would much longer continue under that most extraordi nary delusion, that the payment of tithes in either country was a sort of personal tax, whereby one individual of or, persuasion was compelled to support a clergyman of an other. It astonished him that any person could have been led into such a belief. He would take upon himsel! to assert that it was no personal tax. Should, however, it ever be proved to be so, then, most unquestionable, th question would assume a different complexion.—(He ir, hear.) He agreed with the petitioners, if they could make out a case where they as individuals had b en called on to support a clergyman of ano her persuasion than that they bad a case ,for the interference of the ' I e I House. With regard to the mass of petitions brought ;:t, fore the House by the Hon. Member for Dublin, he trite ' .1 that when the subjects to which they referred came . fore the House they would have all the considerstiol, which they justly merited. He would, however, pa!, take upon himself to say that the Imperial Parliameir would never accede either to the prayer of one class! petitioners or the other, and for himself he hop ' d be shoufekf never see the day when the repeal of the Legislan Union should take place. With respect to the Prott. Cants of Kent, Itrhealatnifdthheey sclownucludrbreedsowdietihurneasHoonsu. pMpnoe:_eia3rhit, rep, al of the Union would put them in a better co 1 , t l ° . , than they were at present, they would find then:eir, most terribly mistaken. He felt no however th at the Legislature wouid take care that h eyth Am°low _. it be ~sh i a r n . d F e . d 07cerotNoNtloieRtencdoenrsimdeerrecdi,eiifof those in f could not put the gee i test confidence, considern3g present sta'e of the country. under delusion upon the subject of the petitions prese_i?oi by the Hon. Alember for Dublin, it was the two _H a , Members opposite.—(Hear, and a liugh.) The II: Now he (Mr. O'Connor) was a Protestant, Member for Kent seemed to think that t he question::' a Catholic que s ' he constituents, h ' had Union l 'o thoughtww a h s o s a o g ii r te e l ;d i s wile duty on the subject. Inde dof pen-ent this, be b ad a ttended ierons meetings for the repeal of the Union, at 1/ 111 be a means th almost without any exception, the strongest re (Hem were forward with as fixed a deterinina a t n i proposed and seconded by Protestants.---. .4 If it ever was a Catholic question, it had now " 33- be so. Th e Protestants of Ireland considered that ' givenin Catholicsu h p , the P H e bat. doubt that it would astonish Memb:rs to learn teat, possible attempt was made to put down in thiscount jogs for the repeal of the Union. Some time ag,e , a meting was about being held in London. For this P the Hon. Member state 1, a few days since a had been taken at the Crown and Anchor Tavern, h t ? 1 n ta ke in bid , the e .. after the publication of the King's speech, and scil two or three days of the holding cf the meeting, the sons having agreed for the rent of the room, the prietor told them that such a meeting would be in violation of the King's speech, and that it would be t:iarssoaach.reairfide.t_ec: (pHargoedeaur.rth; eeYartso°hrnaesduspevisailtl but treason to allow the meeting to take place in house. Was that, he would ask, fair discussion ? ' had been often told that the fair way to learn opinion, was by the petitions of the people, but he would ask, would become of the value of pi opinion, if the people were not allowed liberty of un: discussion ? The Deputation afterwards had gone to London Coffee-house ; the proprietor did not exactly them that it would be treason to hold the meeting, but he six times the fair rent upon his room ; 5 o much, then freedom of debate. Notwithstanding the attempts which been made to smother the question, he could assure the Gentlemen on the other side that they were labouring ui delusion, that nothing could stop its progress, that " no of vituperation ," as the Hon. and Learned Member for had ter temptedmedt it, would put it down. In proportion as the be crushed it would gain strength. , his ost o hearty support to each of the petitions pees npr: vehoi eoper rent eeal legal 0 Union gtf it o f : his the Hon. and Learned Member for Dublin. Mr. FINCH said, that a question of this sort should; cussed with temper, but while he admitted that the Wer t ! the question should be fully and fairly discussed, he must dicate the opinion expressed by his Honourable and friend on his right (Mr. Johnstone) that the Protestants who affixed their names to petitions of this laboured under a great mistake. He would not say for that term might be displeasing, but he did think that laboured under a great mistake—he entertained highest possible opinion of the talents of the Hon" and Learned Member for Dublin, but with respect to a , lution of the Union, there was something so absurd on that of it—there was something so ridiculous in supposing t 3. thought it would have deterred any Hon. Member frogs a . e r : , separate Legislatures would work better than one--tha t entertaining it. There was some secret and i . ' llo o. influence which he could not discover, and Learned Gentleman out of his depth. There e d toS secret agency at work, or he would never have proP" repe al British Legislature that they should consent tann abetrafed, of the union, for otherwise such a propositi,mr. utter imbecility.—(Hear, hear, hear.) If be an t d Lea ros 4 l could penetrate into the secrets of the likatahat he did at! which hurried trw sco t Member's breast, he was inclined to think mus'. Ohl expect any successful result to th is question. make that it would be extremely difficult to ke twoLe gs I► recoa' work together.—(Hear, hear.) T he y would disc that when the question of a Regen parliament hole% the differences between the two Houses of c cc cited much annoyance and inconvenience, the Cr their being obliged to work toget her being c o ri ce 00 e' ca, When Honourable Members recollected that the tho. repeal of the Union would be to have a Roman Government sitting in Ireland--(" No, no," Irons t' ity, M—underaProtestapt Government in this cOOn f under a Protestant Executive, there was on the face ° i d , anomaly so gross, so extravagant, as he dared to say te; is vince those around him that the present state of the thj 9lo- ;ttea which was most advisable. But to consider regarded our commercial, foreign, and domestic inte,,,Vese first with respect to our commercial interestS• '„ - t o ion Member for Oldham had a few nights since led them secrets respecting the commercial jealousies which we'oet if the Repeal of the Union was effected. I n that al e nta ier denied that there would be any friendly intercourse 3 ! ,: s if pu hl between the two countries—there would be a sort of tility, and in that case a restriction would perhap s t ler upon the e th l e oy im al p r or n t g a i t i i s o h n y o e f o l m ri e s n h , corn. that n not tHOen one would an st" _:.ald template such a state of things without di o sn' t. atb ,Cr w n ve C n ;t b c ol l respect to our foreign relations—would net 3 0 w hat AO totally dissent from a Protestant Parlianse nt be considered the most judicious course ? „ am ount l o ss'i power of the Church of Rome, which Was P f o reiga land, recommend a totally different system of deo , toreu t y from that which a Protestant Parliament Woul d s , effect their objects ? With respect to our dosn e cold be to d object of an Irish Roman Catholic Parliament vi to et tern'ial° vance the interests of the Church of Rome ; owe so% the Protestant religion ;to impose a grievous O s ho ° _,, make absentees by a series of petty persecutions ; e k ' new sor r - 0 restorelthe forfeited estates.—(Cries of " Hear.") t he OLIO thing of the feeling which had bnen impressed, ande by Ce;fo that had been implanted in the minds of the Pe e p '",se itinerant orators—(Loud cries of " Hear, hear") i o f ill ? perambulating the country, reminding the Pe e P the A d grievances and persecutions they had endured Cron" 4, f " hes' of Henry the 2d., during the reign 0 be ar, ie si the administration of the Penal Laws—ale °, o e Oa t- kV There was, he admitted, a great deal of truth in th , the pe op l, and it was endeavoured to be kept in the he i , ei ters that all the forfeited property belonged to their an:: tect sw'n.;,, should be restored. This was one of the paramount owcototati. as Would not fi, c the advocates of repeal had in view ; another was t h . . e d digo it of the Church of Rome to her former bonours.T;weaces What was the next step ? to produce endless 6 . '1 to tal r tween the two Parliaments, and this must lead t e o i ; it of! connection between the two countries and, A a to reso.tt' (Hear, hear.) If England would be consP el '" and!' this with her fleets, with her armies, with herTtilsrtS:'i,e i j a l to . sixteen and a half millions of Proiestant S P 'a C a tholics would be again subdued and thrown b as , 11 miserable state in which they were sixty years hte°T)--'," E.nancipation Bill would be repealed—(Great lang w pe% coun t r y would be desolated, and civilization An' meet thrown back for centuries. (Great laughter./ would,sf tocaanonntdc clergyman,luadert b o m y a n relatingafter Catholicat n h e parishioner passinganecdote. ofAtihnferaiEenn:dr4:oll?los Bill, Creme excitement, anticipating the almost immediate of his Church. The clergyman said he stee d a B in such excessive joy, for the effect of the Cs t ; merely be to introduce forty or forty-five 1 1°.- ateod lic Members into the House, and what could th ey -° , r estL' o i 600 ? The man replied, that fifty foxes could dO a rs t 7,s, among 600 geese.—(Laughter.) He hoped Flom Ate — v alisaYs not suppose that he was the person to say that t he who passed that Bill were geese.—(Laughter.) l gan; f able Members voted for it because it was a eue sti'in d ° lA, a s grievances. He would tell the Honourable y ro pe Member for Dublin that he would obtain a ve rted i O6 the union when the intellect of England was ce"deptsne pusillanimity and folly—when the eye of her ° for the o r was put out—when the 50 foxes were a matc h t i gs o English Members—when the English Parliarand a n v oil verted into 600 geese. , --when the sixteen millions a t ' t hen , Englishmen became subjected to the Irish nation not till then, would he obtain a repeal of the union- be e el Mr. FINN said he knew certain itineran ts haa - toa bulating Ireland with the Bible in their hands, tstoghl more mischief, and excited more dissension , and, b e i f isn did more to destroy the Established Church than an her tors had done, and if a return were made of the nunitheOry converts it would be found to be very small and tha t no t which induced them to become converts were creditable to either party. With regard to the Eng":,,,ed, it appeared that the Irish Protestants were to he ; e s the Catholics by those gentlemen ; Ise would hove_ere v- ipc the Hon. Member, that the Protestants of Ireland ,'1:00,t ning to see their true position, and that theY 0.004 dially combine with the Catholics of that counts"); ;ihicPol their mutual rights and freedom. In the county 03_1 represented, there were 165, 0 0 0 Roman Catholies'g toritil" 5,000 Protestants, and there were ten par ishes 19it%ae tsr in that county (Kilkenny), in which there was h e , de 0,0, Protestant. Was it then to be said that with so ''. e rt a" it jority of Catholics they should be compelled to sar 0 0;i stitution to which they did not belong ? Ida" , Mr. O'CONNELL said he could not help renlat: t ost , Rome was once saved by geese, he feared Irelan d c ol o/ be.—(Much laughter.) 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