The Sun. — London, England, 1834-03-22 00:00:00

• I I I 1 SHIPPING I NTELLIGENCE -(THIS DAY) DEAL, ~ an d sailed the Drytno, " A ecil 2 FROM LLOYD'S. I. Wind E.S.E.—Arrived from the River N ew York . t P d oters mourit Upton, and Boston, Wheatland, for , A Ltacti 2 1.—Wind E.S.E.—Arrived the Re_ arikpacket, from Plymouth. PA' ~,°UTII, %licit 20. Wind E.—Sailed his Majesty's ship !! .e zeh, for Malta. th:alker ANT,v'M°VTR, MARCH 20. Wind E., strong breezes.—Arrived . B N autilu s from ' Tennant from Oporto; and his Majesty's ship „ a : , fProottuir, NiAticit 20. —Arrived off' port the Tiley, Ed- Memel. MILP Oa LiverpoolD, MARCH 2 0.—Arrived the Virtue, Rouel, from ho und to }j aw , tiBsfrc;''.:_' M4eCll2o .—Arrived the Leslie Alexander, Mor_ London. m • Wesi ev ' ~ Aectl 15 . —Part of the cargo of the Confidence, Ty ree l i : n om the Clyde to Hayti, wrecked on the island of shor e " a !,_ be en saved, and a part has since been washed on on Lae island of Coe. The ch,,, Wid era _ 'IQ; Bohn, from Messina to Copenhagen, is lost at T he 5 on th e coast of Sweden —crew saved. wret3/4 Brothers, 0 ,., Baker, f rom S un d er l an d to Stettin, was tota ll y ell th e coast of J ut l and the 10th instant—crew saved. koy 41' SW EDISH --" OR N AND WEGIA ""--- GENERAL CONSULATE. ~,h 3 41, *--1 , i 17, Great St. Helens, March 21, 1834. ll -° it be 'eave to acquaint you, for the information of a holm, h 2.1 co ncern, that the Royal Board of Trade of Stockd diretti,,:* e nder date of the 17th ultimo and 3d instant, issue . dared 11 7 that the following places, shall in Sweden be consi- N ut the tr ee from the Cholera Morbus, and that vessels . arriving clean bills shall not be subjected, on being provided with to quaraln7f health, issued by Swedish and Norwegian Consuls, t t °tt egal i lt ne . viz. : all ports in England, Scotland, Ireland, h r•°vitiee;:.eighlea, Hamburg, or the Elbe, in the Spanish arid that ~ Granada and Andalusia, and Holland, all Norway, , 'hai l, in eo n s com munication between Sweden and Norway, 'hai l ' restr„,!„ 644e noe, by land or by water, be exonerated from • Jotir u tobto - bed '" , asehtto quarantine.— I remain respectfully, Sir, I servant, 1 4 / 4 11,_ CHARLES TOTTIX. . 'ubl " Es Ll d" ' q., Secretary, oy J. ...___ SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. C RESTER RACES. MANCHESTER, THURSDAY NIGHT. Cartel. i3T TING AT MANCHESTER. to 2 As k 14 CUP, I to agst. erseverance (offered), 1 Btoi Poonla tor (offered), 2 P l3to 2 agst. Independence (off., 3 1 , Flo Controller (taken), to 1 agst. Birdcatcher, S t P ride7t ak to 1 agst. The Cardinal, 12 to 1 agst. bona's lievera_ (taken) to 1 agst.Les Grace (taken), sto agst. Per ..ce and Independence (taken). 11 tO 1 TYE DERBY. 10 to :at a a s, Bentley (off ere d), 6 t o I agst. Bubastes (taken), Sbilelah (offered), 13 to 1 agst. Oly m pi c , 18 to 1 25 to F. aggm. st vnita2.wr (taken2_B to 1 a st• Comet, 22 to 1 agst. Delirium, )! B tO 1 ag s t , TUE DONCASTER ST. LE GER. 13 t o 1 .. Warlaby B aylock (offered), 10 to 1 agst. Bubastes, kr. p_art. Ben tley (taken), 15 to 1 ags t . C ot ill on, 20 to 1 agst. t o 1 4 . e7t's colt (taken), 20 to 1 agst. V a l para i so ( taken), 28 Queen Bess (offered), 25 to 1 ags t. Bran (taken). 110„,.. -._______ ,uange in the Oaks and Liverpool Cup. HUNTING APPOINTMET su e King's Stag H ounds meet on Monday at S. Iver Heath; —4,4rsday, at Winkfield R ow—at 11. e Sandbeck Hound s mee t on Wednesday at El roton ; artSa it, at Au g ht on B ar — at half past 10. gar O sbaldeston's Hounds meet on Monday Toll past at Badb y 1 i We dnesday, at Sibbertoft ; Satu r d ay, at Fox Hall at half o . L a T w he Duke of Grafton's Hounds meet on Monday at Great Satan' ~. 'Yar dley Chace; Wednesday, at Stowe Nine Churches ; a Y. at Stowe Park—at half past 10. w kr . Ber keley's H oun d s meet on Monday at Knotting Fox ; air Pas 'd t 1 h edne at the Kennel; Saturday, at Kimbolton Castle at aY 0: ~_ kr, b r .,_ , -Uarm `Le 6 Hounds meet on Tuesday at Rye street Kennel; half ""s'a3r, at Islip Town End; Saturday, at Dorton Spa—at kDalt 1 0 . r. I), „ Th e "'lora Hounds meet on Thursday at Lamb Hou ß se, r a to t . l . l TuudaHolderness Hounds meet on Monday at Cherry day 3' ,. . at Thearne ; Thursday, at Lowthorpe Village; u Satur: ~:. atistlrto Agnes—at 11. waod";Essex and Suffolk Hounds meet on Monday at Stour kr.v. T p hur sdaY. at Assington Hall—at 8. Ceut a . 1 ' 'eu°lB's Harriers meet on Monday at Swaffham Race III: I(Wednesday, at East Winch—at 11. C hurch , naPten Harriers meet on Tuesday at Aldborough Saturday, at Sadls er' Mill, Pasto n — a t 11 . ..............- ---______,..,_ THE FUNDs_(rins DAY.) cl7"1" TWELVE O'CLOCK. The easterly • winds have prevented us from receiving any ar :lva's, with the exception of the French mail and the express 4.0111 Paris this morning. If we can lace credit in the infor natation of the private letters from ParispresPecting !.,3 41 11, we roust presume that the civil war is raging there the situation t l e t n Juore fury than ever, as it appears that a general i i i g o o s. stat e athsts had been place; and the accounts from B b ~- . that town o full of troops, which were driven in by the ,arltt chief, Zahla. General Quesada published . a t pr a o t c tio h on in.... the 9th inst., in which he tells the Navanse to h s ' ii , hay s: los_ialled in the attempt to induce the disaffected the sword.tnni Was , kretle,,_, resolved to enforce order by tire and the dismassal IN, `l4 Llatider was about to deman frouft Nl* the Ministry, and the state l of ni Ma p d stat e o,l?tt tranquil. but of late we have This is certainly a g onc r t i d u r b e w e e o a f n s t h f s le r niti e h d that distracted country; . sioistereeeived by letters and information purposely adopted for giv e er..iews and stock-jobbing measures, that we can scarcely Up ed t.. it to anything but official information. 14 6 , ••• the present hour we have no further i a i rrlv tn al i s ng from --Iti but may be expected every hour by the . g THE FUNS. forelils°lB Acco ce p e ned at the pri they heft off yesterday, 911 1, Danish ge unt' w ith little o r not hi ng do i ng. .... 30; to 31 ; Portuuese, 6,11• l'he Frenchcomelowerg from Paris, 78f. 55c. ; also Funds ~ VI Spanish HALF-PAST ONE. Wish great change has taken place since yesterday in , the ,S,peray heavannri^ t d e P t rd ua is S ecurities. Yesterday they is atC;ib;" th e s Peculators are eager to purcha '' s e e on on . dto its being a great Bear account, hopingand ftoth Lisbon. ~"2.44Y we shall have some important arrivals r'e which that ai"'yin.itUese has been done al 65; ; Spanish also improved to Little 01 . „ Consols e been "Ming is doing in the Consol Market. Aeentrnt. '4'414 the whole of the morning, at 91 14 { for the Consols for the Account, 9 I THREE i O'CL O CK T h ------'-------' the Isle of Nvi kne. present Vicar of Brading, in years, IS %aid to have held that living upwards of seventy D Cl4l3Eit OP ST. MICFIAEL AND ST. GEORGE. "" i i - -y a recent rg 1 • app roved by his Majesty, the 'lights Grand eCuroaesi: of this new Order are, in the order of their nomination, Vice-Admiral Sir G. Aliwe, Ad0,i,.. 41 Sir 11. Neale, Vice-Admirals, Sir P. Malcoliii, t. Who m E. Codrington, and Rear-Admiral Brig g s, all haveo 1,1„-41; With the exception of the .1 anedterrnizettefd,inthe iressively filled the post of _c ~.elliternineari. The Hon.. Caporntaimn...Smir...Anteaeitl.anit, son " Lord Lauderdale, and Sir H. Nu] , 1 , h d bee th e utt4 with the insignia of Knights mrnan ers o th - .vi t. vaillWe understand that a sort of influenza pre- Irnongst horses in a part of thersEesAsbteßlimiiigiinneg, to one the Prelent p,rind. No less than tltleroa, o w A ith this complaint, , were seriously aff fi ec v t a ei h l h a t , s%- ./ . A irt of the present week . tanner at Ripling. diqu;l it l' er, in. 4 p.n4ted, has lost several of his horses by the same .."44°1/ Packet. E---,"lON,, —Yesterday b the execution knee of tee lay/ wa s carried into effect, y the la-t assizes the dreadful sen °ff ti'e ; ine l bdi alY, Thomas Gee, convicted at tv of Mr. Sharp ° sett.ng ore to a wheat stack, the proper, sad ; ther, at Guildsborough. The other priso a n ls e o r, p A a u ss s e t d in , Ok•n% upon whom sentence of death 4 received a revit e in consequence of c w on a s s iderable inte resenta- r!it having been made in his behalf, from the !I_Teatthat he had su bsequently to the offence r m eP anifested ..e contrition, and has generally borne a good character. .. eunduelperit proceeded towards the drop, trihrea. escorted by Sheriff and his attendants. tryinguk they offered up a prayer, and the p T ri l s e on ß er r ev a . .t , A t_h i , r i e s . g moment shook violently. All being prepaed o%,n_ sadd en ascended the scoff , Id, but, in consequence 'it's o_s i v ti . . " 4 torn of the bead, the rope was removed yelled r ibpd • from tators the rop e h hooted o ?nudti,,:vhen the drop fell, most frightful inant!er th ; e th q e e k c not of mitt e d he 44114 shiftid completely under . his chin and ad wer e dretitiftiellp:es: supposed, 6,900 perm ror by violenn:Y protracted. There were, it is h t :" m p a i n t y ation, by which . his sufferings r h in o after th d Qelittl'es and enafewlahmoarntiotenast.ifi'ldmtmeediate.lye Woodtvoarkr,nwPif,l.htte wretched culprit's knees climgtotn ot tim e, ' were not removed for a short space . multitude below Wall tbasnori lu d te n i t y in d g e :.: ll 4 !'h the yelling of i t! tits multitude suffered dorietta_d_fullY, while thei tcu l t 'n o r ne se r v p e u ra lled his legs, a EnidBl til:lrZeeratioas of the people. Tile b 1411,42e1,1°! atom an hour, it was cut own and delivere, dy Lying been Preaz 7 "ve 3 of the deceased. -- Northampton Free IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE O 1 COJTMONS, 111ARcn 21. The SPEAKER took the cildr at a qu ater past five. Returns from the fink of England of ti:e number of notes issued during certain periods, were brought up, and laid upon the table. The bill for lighting the town of Gloucester with gas, was brought in and read a first time. Mr. F. BUXTON moved the second reading of the Alliance Marine Insurance Company Bill. Mr. HAWES brought in the Newport Harbour (Mon moothshire) Improvement Bill, which seas read a first time. Mr. BAINES presented a petition from the bandloom weavers of Hilsden (Lancashire) complaining of distress, and praying that a board of manufacturers be appointed to regulate and equalize the rate of wages. The same HON. MEMBER presented a petition from the methodists of Holmfetb, complaining of grievances, and praying redress. Mr. COOTES presented a petition from the dissenters of a town in Surrey praying relief. Captain W'NNINGTON presented a petition to the same effect from the borough of Worcester. Mr. WILKS presented petitions from the dissenters of Bet khampstead, Herts ; Castlehedingham, Essex ; Crea ton, Northamptonshire ; Duckenfield, Cheshire ; Guels borough, Northamptonshire ; Southminster, Essex ; Tot t2ride, Herts ; and the baptists of the Rev. D. Perrey's congr , gation, Liquorpond.street, Boston, praying relief. An. 110 N. MEMBER presented a petition from an indi vidual of the name of Swift, complaining of the Glasgow Lottery Bill, seating that lie should be much injured by it, and praying to he heerd by counsel against it. Mr. TOOKE presented a petition from Chemsford, and another from Evesham, praying that a bill might be passed to prevent the employment of children in chimney sweeping. Mr. PHILLPOTTS presented a petition from the inhabitants of Gloucester, praying that an act might be passed to prevent the employment of children in chimney sweeping ; also a petition from the same place praying for an act to be passed to enforce the better ob servance of the Sabbath. Mr. PICOT presented a petition from a place the name of which we did not distinctly hear, praying for the repeal of the malt tan. Lord HENNIKER presented a petition from the dis senters of a parish in the county of Suffolk, praying to be relieved from their disabilities. Mr. HUME presented a petition from the Governor and Company of the Chelsea 'Water-works, against the Great Western R tilway. Mr. STANLEY understood the hon. member opposite (Col. Davies) meant to move an amendment on the motion that the house resolve itself into a committee of supply. He (Mr. Stanley) had had some conversation with his noble friend Lord Althorp, and found that there would be no objection to that motion, theref.re the hon. member might, perhaps, as well move his amendment now. Colonel DAVIES was quite sensible of the inconveni ence of moving an amendment of the nature of which he had given notice on such an occasion, but he had found himself in a very awkward situation with re sptct to this notice, and he had only taken this course as a last resort. As there was no opposition to it, he had no objection to move now, which he did, that a select com mittee might be appointed to inquire into and report what would be the best mode of expediting the business of the house. The amendment was then agreed to, and the committee appointed. Mr. STANLEY, in answer to a question from Mr. IL L. BULGIER, said, though he could not positively state that trial by jury had been introduced in all cases into New South Wales, yet he was happy at being able to inform the hon. member and the house that his Majesty's govern ment were taking steps for the purpose of introducing trial by jury into all cases in that colon•. REVISING BARRISTERS. On the motion for the house to go into a committee of supply, Mr. GOULBURN rose to draw the attention of the right honourable gentleman opposite to the ease of the revising barristers. Those gentlemen had at their last circuit been put to very considerable ex pense, in some cases to upwards of 100/., and up to the present time the Treasury had not been able to afford any remuneration even for the expense which they had been called on to pay out of their own pockets. This, he confessed, appeared to him to be a case of very considerable hardship, and had put to great inconvenience those individuals who had been appointed under an act of Parliament, and had been obliged by the act to pay these expenses out of their own funds. The commissioners upon corporations bad received pay ment of their expenses and labour, and this, the case of the revising barristers, appeared therefore to be one of very peculiar hardship. His object was to obtain a favourable answer, and he hoped the right bon. gentleman opposite would give the house an assurance that the revising bar risters should at least be repaid those expenses which they had piid out of their own funds. Mr. WOOD said he was afraid his answer would not be so satisfactory as the house might expect. He was aware of the hardship those gentlemen had been put to, and he agreed with the right hon. gentleman that the case was entitled to a most favourable consideration. As yet the Treasury had not been able to pay the money that was due to the revising barristers, as they could not do so till the money was voted by the house. This was the rea son why the payment was postponed. With respect to the corporation commissioners, he (Mr. Wood) was not able to give any answer in the absence of his light hon. colleague, who was better acquairved with the subject. Mr. HUME regretted that th , ! noble !old at the I cad of the department of weods and firests (Lord Dun cannon) was unable to be presiit, as he (Mr. Hume) w!shed to put a questicn to him, which, although it in• volved an expenditure of but trifling amouct, was', in his opinion, usele,s.—(Hear, hear.) His attention had been attracted by the erection of an immense wooden building at the bark of Whitehall, which he lied ascertained cost the public from SO/. to 1001. a-year, and which was built merely fur the distribution of what was called the KinesAlins ; namely, a few pounds of salt meat. The cost of such a building for one single day in the year appeared to him so extravagant that he hoped it would be ii) future dispensed with. The SPEAKER then put the question, that the order of the day for the house to resolve itself into a committee of supply, be read, which was agreed to. On the question being put, that the Speaker leave the chair, Mr. HUME said he had given notice of a motion on which be had intended to take the opinion of the house, and had reference to ordnance estimates. As it was the wish of the government to have it postponed, for fear it might be any impediment to public business, he would not now bring it forward, reserving to himself either in the com mittee, or in bringing up the report, to introduce it if he found it neceisat y. Mr. STANLEY said his Majesty's Government felt indebted to the bon. member for not pressing forward his motion now. It was most important that the Ordnance Estimates should be disposed of as soon as possible, for his noble friend, Lord Althorp, was anxious to take an Opportunity of stating before Easter what his plan for the commutation of tithes was. MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS. A message from the Lords was announced, requesting the house to communicate to their lordships copies of the reports, and evidence upon the bill for excluding the freemen. of Liverpool from voting for members of Par liament for that borough. The messengers were informed that the house would send an answer by messengers of their own. The house resolved itself into a committee of supply, COMMITTEEwhet, lABERLEyMATES. grEAYER.OhFaviSogUPI PLY.--ORDNANCE ESTI- The eft the ch a i r , Colonel A Ordnance Estimates, w a ' s h in p risin g to brin g forward the able to effect reductions evean- happy to st ate t h at h e h a d b een beyo n d the m os t sangu i ne expectations which in th e last session he had expressed to ez d the house. The apparent savingb,astcoobute pen pared with was the ed, s timates of last year, on th e um stimates 257,0001., and on the sum to be v ote d the apparent sav i ng of e, on t m he ount. wait s 295,5000/.of He ransfe said r a to the arm pparent sav y in et s because a part conisted a t ing to 175,000 1 . The real s aving , therefor to be expended was 82,0001., and that on the sum to h e voted 120,000/. He believed that this would be deemed satisfactory by the house when they took into considera tion all that had been previously done. In the ordnance estimates of 1829, as coutpared with those of 1820, there was a reduction of 600,0001. The saving effected in this department by the previous Government was 370,0001. ; and from 1830, when the present Govern ment entered office, there was a still further reduction of 335,000/. This took place in a department which had been frequently pruned down before by their predecessors He wou d now call the attention of the house to a few points. The first was the Irish survey. The estimate for th - s survey had been formed on insufficient data, and the consequence was that the vote was now exhausted. It was, however, the opinion of his Majesty's Go vernment that the survey ought to be proceeded it:. Indeed he did not see Low this could be avoided, because Government had almost pledged themselves to the Irish members that the survey should he completed. This sur vey was of the greatest importance to Ireland. It was an agricultural country, and the first step to all beneficial reform, whether as regarded tithes, land tax, county, or grand jury cess, was an accurate survey. The taxation, for want of a good survey, had hitherto proceeded on insufficient and very unsatisfactory data. This gave rise to much trout le and Learthurning, and the only way to set this at rest was by having an exact survey. Such being the case, he trusted the house would not object to the expense necessary for prosecuting this important work. The next point to which he wished to call the attention of the committee was the agency of the Ordnance Board. Government was pledged to some alteration in this branch of the estimates, and an alteration was in contemplation; hut it was not considered an effectual one. The agency was 7,0001., of which 1,0001. was paid by the officers themselves, and 6,000/. by the Government. An esta blishment with a charge of 3,000/. would he necessary, and, therefore, Government set about devising some other means of saving this expense. The payment of the Chel sea pensioners was undertaken by the Paymaster of the Forces, and thus a saving of 2,700/. was effected. It was now proposed that the agency of the Ordnance also should be transferred (as we understood, for the hon. member was scarcely audible) to his noble friend's de irartment, and thus a saving would he efficted of 3,000/. a year. The last point to which he should refer was the removal of the depot from Tooley-street to Woolwich and the Tower. The great accumulation of stores was a subject of complaint last session, and in this way he trusted that ground of complaint would be re moved in future, and a saving effected of 4,0001. a year. His colleague had a plan in contemplation for a more ef fectual check on the issue of stores, which, he trusted, when brought into operation, would be productive of much good. He would not trespass further on the attention of the house than merely to remind them that in judging of these estimates they should consider them as the ordnince expenditure of one of the greatest and most powerful na tions in the world. The first resolution was then put, . - " That a sum not exceeding 70,562/. be granted for the sa laries of the Master-General and the Officers of the Ordnance, and for payment of the salaries of clerks in Woolwich, Pall mall, and Dublin." -511. HUAIE said there certainly was some improve went in these estimates as compared with those of former years, but it was not so great as it ought to be, and as it might have been. The first point on which he would observe was the Irish survey. He had opposed the vote of 300,0001. for this survey. It was voted on the condi tion that the counties of Ireland should pay a part of the expense of the survey. He now put the question, did they do so? It was true the additional sum now proposed was only 25,0001., but before the survey could be completed it would cost 250,000/. more; for not more than two thirds of Ireland were hitherto surveyed. England had nothing to do with this survey, and should not be put to the expense of it. He hoped some honourable member would explain why the pledge given that the Irish counties would contribute bad been deviated horn. With respect to the agency, be was satisfied that the distribution of it was an inconvenient one. All the money voted under the bead of Ordnance might be pai 1 through the same channel. His honourable friend seemed to think they ought to stop short in reduc tion in consideration of what had been done in 1829 and 1830. This was not his opinion. The reduction in the present estimates arose principally under the head of stores and ordnance works. The actual saving on the military and civil establishments was only 8,4931., a very inconsi derable reduction ; so small, indeed, as scarcely to deserve notice. He was sorry to see so great an indifference in the house to these estimates. The whole expenditure made in this department previous to the late war was not more than 500,0001. He decidedly objected to the civil and military branches of the ordnance service. In time of peace they were both enormously extravagant. Here they were at peace with the whole world, and still paying for the support of the army, in all its branches, no less than 13,000,000/. He approved of the removal of the stores from Tooley-street. They should also remove all the pe rishable stores both at the Tower and at Woolwich. The consequence of having kept their perishable stores there was a loss of many millions, as he could prove very clearly. He way anxious to ate the pay department both of the army and the ordnance put into one office. The total estimate was 1,366,0001. Now of this Greenwood and Co. paid 592,0001., and only 774,0001. was paid by the department itself. The different branches of the civil establishment cost 195,0001. ; barracks and stores 272,7681. Now in 1792 the whole expenditure, under the head of barracks, was only 18,0001. The pay ana other incidental expenses of the engineers and artillery was 560,0001., while in 1792 the charge under this head was only 159,0001. Was there any necessity that they should have now so many as 8,000 engineers and artillery when there were not usore than 3,000 in 1'792 ? There was nothing in the situation of this country, nor in that of Europe, which could war rant them in keeping up so many as 884 artillerymen. There was a charge of 26,000/. for the hire of carriages on marches. This he considered totally unnecessary. As to the pensions, they could do nothing with them until such time as they fell iu by death. The next item on which he should observe was 5,109/. for the professional establishment at Woolwich. The three last items under this heed never before existed in time of peace ; nimely, a Director General with 3501, a year, a DirectoreGeneral of artillery 5001., and the loyal carriage depai talent. He did not complain of the amount of salaries, but the offices should have ceased altogether with the war. The next item was that of works, 194,4041. The charge for management, officers, and pay of del les under this bead was 30,738/. Now in any other establishment, public or private, he did not find that the charge for manage ment was more than Si. per cent., while here it amounted to nu less than 881. per cent. The charge for barrack expenses was 261,708/., a sum much too large. Barracks were now rising round them like palaces. Look for in stance at that now building in the Birdcage. walk. It was superior to any public work in England. It was to much to call on them to vote additional sums for this purpose in Windsor. Valuable as their molly was to defend the country in time of need, such extravagance was not justifi eble. There was a charge of 7.2151. for the lodging of barrack masters and barrack-sergeants. This was a large allowance merely for lodgings. Tne charge for barrack-masters' expenditure was 57,8191., for building and repairs 135,0001., and for clerks of works, overseers, and lore toe n, 28,0001. ; that was a charge of 20 per cent. for mere superintendence. He was well aware that the present government found the department in the state it now was in, and therefore they were not so much to blame; but they should immediately proceed to alter the plan. By a return laid upon the table in the year 1820 it appeared that there were then in existence sufficient barracks to accommodate a much larger number of men than that composing the present army. What occasion could theme be then for new barracks ? This partly arose from the circumstance of keeping the ordnance barracks distinct from those of the line. He was informed that at Portsmouth the government was actually paying for the tnessrooms and lodgings of troops of the line, and that this was occasioned by a jealousy which prevented them being allowed to make use of the ordnance barracks there. In place of the present complicated mode of dealing will the ordnance and the line as perfectly distinct branches of force, they should have recourse to a simple plan. In every other country but this the line and the ordnance were placed under the same commander-in chief. The whole establishment should be simplified. In place of expending 1.:th s 0001. in the building and repair of bar-. r..eks, and 28,0001. for superintendence, they ought to pull down the old barracks instead of building new ones. The whole charge fur barrack-masters in England, Ireland, and the colonies was 36,191/. The next item was an im• portant one, the stores, and it naturally divided itself into two parts, the civil and military branches. He thought Coe military branch ought to lie brought under the Com mander-ins Chief. There was an office in Pall. mall, at a charge of 70,000/. a year, while the amount of the stores annually purchased did not amount to more than 45,0001. What was the use of a seperate establishment fur the ord nance stores, great coats, and similar articles? Why not contract for these articles as was done for other branches of the army, and have them supplied immediately ? There was a charge of 18,000/. for bedding. Now this, like the great coats and other stores, might be contracted for, and had immediately when they were wanted, instead of being left to rot in stores. The whole amount of stores required was only 90,000/. worth, and for this an esta blishment was kept up at an expense greater than that at which the whole exchequer business of the country would atiwneadsmta3hne,:ave9 whole tri o. under the pl an l a t e l y propose d b y govern ment, the proposed ex p ense o f th i s b e i ng only 11,0001 The expense of th e s t ore k eeper ' s d epartment at Woolwich le ; t e l x ie pe e n x se p s en o s n e k o e f epi la n h g ou s r t e o r r s es th w e e m e re 83,88,92 59/ 7 .i . So that there was a charge of 100/. per cent, on the amount of stores the ordnance received. If these stores were supplied by contract there would be a saving of athe 100/. per cent. on t h e whole. He would ask house, e ' then, whether this was an economical vat ltappeared clearly to him that all thi s waste plight be saved and these unnecessary expenses were not warranted untfe ' r any e.rcunistances. He would sh ow w h at was the result of persever i ng in this system, and some of the few hon. mem- Irers present might recollect the battle he had in former sears fought to lessen the storekeeper's department, which at last he had succeeded in cutting down by 100.000/. a year. This saving related to all perishable articles in store ; and he would point out to the house how some practicable results might be come to on the subject. He made a motion last year for a return of the amount of stores, of all perishable'articles in store, in order to know what was their cost, and what was the expense of keeping them in the storehouses. The return he alluded to showed that the prime cost of those stores amounted to about 180,0001., and that, adding thereto two items for interest and compound interest and for expenses of keeping since the stores were first purchased, namely, 154,000/. and 200,000/., the whole charge would amount to somewhat more than half a million sterling. He held in his hand a catalogue of the sale of ordnance stoles of the amount of the original purchase money, and of what they were sold at. The third day's sale consisted of harness, collars, back bands, breeching, &c., for horses; and the first lot, which cost originally 684,000/., to which add 17,000/. for interest, at the sale fetched only 37.000/. From which, if agency and other expenses of sale were deducted, the net produce to the public would be about 25,000/. In the same manner he found that every other item of stores was disposed of. In the Finance Committee that sat in 1828, he caned for a return of the number of mus kets then in store. By a copy of that report, which he held in his hand, he found that the number of muskets and carbines in store was 926.850, and that the annual charge of keeping them was 20,000/., and they had been twenty years in store. He was happy to see that some of them bad been since sold to France and Belgium. But it was monstrous to have such a stock of muskets in store— a stock sufficient for at least fifty years. If we were to go to war now, or if other countries were to go to war, they would be found of very little use, and would not be pur chased, in consequence of the late improvements that had been made in that arm in France and in other countries. He would advise his Maj , sty's government to turn them into old iron ; and he was glad to see they were doing so, since they were selling them by thousands and tens of thousands. Ever since the war lie had been hammering at them—(A laugh)—and he considered he was now en titled to expose the folly of such a system. So much for muskets. The number of pistols in store was 50,000, of swords 154,000, but there was still a much more extra ordinary item. What he alluded to was 287,353 sets of accoutrements which were in store, consisting of pouches, bayonets, and belts, the average original cost of each set being 14e. Would the house believe that after all the time these things were kept in store, and after all the expense, of keeping them, they were sold out at the price of ls. a set ? But such was the fact. We bad an African corps to supply with accoutrements, but so bad were those that were in store, that the Ordnance was obliged to go on contracting for new accoutrements, to supply this black African corps. When such was the case, what hopes could that house have from such a de partment ? He did not blame the present department for selling these stores at a loss; but he ma `e this state ment to show the inevitable losses that must arise from keeping any perishable article whatsoever a long time in store. There might be some excuse for adopting such a system before 1793, when there were difficulties in the way of having manufactured in a short space of time a large quantity of these articles; but that excuse could not hold good at present, when, in a given time, in conse quence of the great improvements that had taken place in manufactures, more arms might be supplied than would in any event be necessary. In voting the present estimate the house would be supporting a system that was at the same time insulting and ruinous to the country. He would say nothing about 60,000 ball and blank cart ridges; but he could not help mentioning that there were in store 279,000 barrels of gunpowder, the annual ex. pense of keeping which was upwards of 6,000/. So that of this one article there was a store for forty years; it was a perishable article, and deteriorated in quantity every five years. Besides, we bad powder manufactories, which kept going on manufacturing every year, for no other purpose that he could see except to keep men's hands in practice. There was a powder manufactory at Fevers barn— An HON. Maxima—Why don't you blow it up?— (A ldugli.) - Mr. HUME—I wish I could.—(Laughter.) When he was at Feversham last year the warehouseman would not allow him to visit the establishment, because he (the man) said that a man at Woolwich was dismissed for allowing Mr. Hume and Mr. Benett to go over the laboratory there. —(Laughter.) He understood that the establishment at Feversham was now kept up merely for growing willows. Although there was in store gunpowder for forty years, still they went on making two thousand barrels yearly, at the expense of Si. or 61. a barrel, which would not sell (or more than half that price. So much for gunpowder. He found that there were in store 30,000 iron guns, 2,000 brass guns, 16,000 carronades, and 18,000 gun-carriages. Think of keeping in store 18,000 gun carriages ! But it might be said that 12,000 of them were ship-carriages. If they were taken from ships they were good for nothing, and of whatever sort they might be, after keeping for some time, they would rot, be condemned, and thrown out as useless. Was the folly of such a system practised by the ordnance nothing ? As he said before, it should be joined to the military department, thereby getting rid of the esta • bliahment in Pall-mall. He found that there were in store a twelve years' aupp) , of wheelbarrows, which, unless they were made of me:al, could not last, and must be thrown away as rubbish. He also found that there were in store 93,000 blankets, 44,000 paliasses, and 112,000 sheets. Tois was a dead loss to the nation. They could be all supplied by contract and would be fresh and good, and the expenses of storekeepers and of clerks, who had only to keep rotten stores, would be dispensed with if such articles were contracted hir. He was one of those who had approved of that part of the report which re commended that those things should be placed under the direction of one responsible individual who should be obliged to see the whole of the duties of storekeeping pro perly and cheaply performed. If he had shown, as he thought he had, :he bad policy of keeping in store perish able articles, the loss upon them in the shape of interest, &e., the charges of storekeepers, desks, and labourers, it must be evident that the system was in every way a useless and losing one. He knew it to he a fact that guns, and good ones, were now seliing as old metal. There was not a warehousekeeper in the kingdom that would not take charge of the whole establishment for 10,0001. a-year. In the next item in the estimates he Lund among the miscellaneous expenses 45,0001. which he was bound to say ought to form no p irt of the estimate s. In the miscellaneous expenses, which amounted to 78,0001., he found the sum of 4,0001. for packing stores. Now this sum would be saved by contracting, for the contractor would be made to pack the stores at his own expense. Teere was another expense which he must allude to, namely, for vessels removing gunpowder, 4.830/. He could riot see the use of ibis expense, and it ought to be removed. He saw another item, 2,8501., for the purchase of land. Upon this point lie asked for explanation. The law expenses he found amounted to about 7,0001,, and the Exchequer fees to 1,147/. He had hoped to see these latter done away with. One great ground of complaint was the civil expenses of the Ordnance for superintending the expenditure. The persons so em ployed were paid as follows:—Master General, 3,000/. ; Surveyor General, 1,2001 ; Clerk of the Ordnance, 1.2001. ; Principal Storekeeper, 1,200/. ; Treasurer, 1,0001.; Secretary to the Master General, 1,000/. ; Se cretary to the Board, 1,400/. ; total, 10,000/. Clerks' salaries at Pal!-matl and the Tower, 5,012/. ; at Wool. wich, 3,069/. ;in Dublin. 1,5501. Salaries at the out. stations of England, 15,237/. ; 'at the out-stations in Ire land, 2,1671. ; salaries of clerks abroad, 24,8311. He would put it to the house if this account was not a strong one, and whether such expenses were necessary ? The four clerks in the Tower received more than the Exchequer clerks. The t ital expense of the civil department was upwards of 128,000/. This was an exorbitant sum, and the expenses of the establishment in London were partied larly e xorbitant. If the house would not go with him, were they prepared to vote all these expenses for keeping stores, and of the civil department of the establishment? If the store branch alone were got rid of, there would be a saving of 39,000/. There would be a great saving in every department if the business was transacted by war rants on the Bank, or the agency of Messrs. Cox anti Greenwood, or any other similar firm. There was no mode so economical as this ; it was adopted at Chelsea Hospital, and the agency expenses in every 1001. amounted to no more than 1/. Any agent would transact the business of the department at at least one-third less than it was done at present, and even in this way the expense, of the Army Pay-office might b, saved. By adopting this principle all the Treasury expenses would be got rig generally extremely extravagant, and the OBrdonaaninscewere Board was the most extravagant of all. The whole of these civil expenses might be saved by placing the ordnance department on the same footing on which stood in every part of the world. In India the artillery an d engineer departments were under the commander-in chief, as was the case in Germany and France, and this produced an immense saving. If such a principle was adopted in this country, local boards might be got rid of altogether. The amendment he intended to propose in the committee he would defer until the report was brought up. Al;. COBBETT thought that the house ought to be very much obliged to the hon. member for Middlesex far ening into these details. The bon. member had asked, when would the soldier cease to live in palaces? Why, the answer was plain— Orel; the 1 lieurer should again live in the cornent hens,. znerly to dwell in. But when was that.? When ski, e should be the amount of taxis cellected antra ti!y in...cid of fifty millions. He knew it would be ea lad ae ill-natured observation to say that soldiers were kept for collecting taxes, but if they were not kept for that purpose, what were thy kept for ? They had now had sixteen year; of peace, and his Majesty kept constantly assuring them that there was no danger of war. Since that was the case, what were these soldiers and barracks kept up for ? The house was about to vote upwards of 1,300,0001. when there were not fifty-one members present. He had much to say with respect to the expense of surveys, and the large sum paid to the half-pay officers of the artilhry. Hr tound that there was no less than fifteen officers of the artillery on the half pay. Colonel MABERLEY said that the hon. memlaer for Middlesex bad mixed up the charges for the various de partments in such a manner that he (Colonel Maberley) found it extremely difficult to take them from the chaos in which they had been involved. The whole sum to be voted was about 1,346,000/., which was divided into ordnance service, barrack deparment and buildings, military stores, and superannuation. The hon. member, in the first place, silts fell to the large establishment kept tip, and the great number of soldiers in the ar illery. It was obvious, on reflection, that it required a much longer time to train an artillery soldier than on•• for the line, as the former must necessarily receive setnething of a sciela tific education. It was-necessary to drill him as a cavalry soldier, and in the use of military weapons; and it was also necessary that lie should be made in some degree ac quainted with laboratory practice. He believed that it was not possible to instruct a recruit to make him an efficient artil:ery :addler in less than three or four years. If the artillery were not properly drilled, it would hardly be possible to send out an expedition with a chance ul success, however it might be called for. He would appeal to any roan at all conversant wi h tnilit try matters, whe ther it was not necessary that the artillery corps should be placed on a different footing from the troops of the line. The troops of the line, in case of need, might be replaced by the militia, but that could not be the case with the artillery. He thought that, if the honour of the country was to be maintained, comparatively a large force of artillery must be kept up. As it was, England did not keep up near so large an artillery as other countries. Even America, in proportion to her military establish ment, had a much larger artillery than England. LI the United States he believed that there were four bat talions of artillery, and only six battalions of the line. The corps of artillery was much below what would be considered sufficient in any c• ntinental state in which a large army was kept up. Toe lion. member had cam plained that the artillery corps was paid by the ordnance storekeepers, and not by the agents. That was done because the storekeepers were necessarily obliged to per form a great part of the duty of agents. Tne hon. member said that the payment of the corps was the only thing to look to, and they ought to consider the cheapest mode in which it could be done. The object, however, in the present mode of payment was to see that the artillery were not paid snore than they ought to be. There were between seven•y and eighty clerks in the war-office who were occupied in checking the pay of the army, and it was deemed necessary that a similar check should be kept up by the ordnance. One-third of the civil establishment of the ordnance was kept up for this purpose; therefore the hon. gentleman was wrong in saying that the civil establishment was kept up for the stores alone. 'rite next point to which he came was the barracks. He believed that the ex cellent discipline of the British army- was owing, in a great degree, to the barracks. The expense certainly was great ; but it was not near • - o much as it formerly was. No military roan, who had the interest of the army at heart, would wish to do away with barracks. —(H ar.) The question then was, what should be the cost of the barrack establishment ? He was prepared to show that within the last few years great reductions had been effected in this department. In 1814, when the charge for barracks was transferred from the army esti mates to the ordnance, the amount of the estimate was 270,000/. ; and in 1834 the charge was 196,000/., thus making a saving in the barrack establishment in 1834, as compared with 1824, of no less than 96,0001. He, perhaps, could not do better than rca 1 to the house a statement of the reductions that had b en made in this dep artinent. In i 824 there were 157 barrack-masters, eight deputy barrack -masters, and 28.1 barrack-sergeants. In 1834 there were 103 birrack-tuasters, three clerks, and 244 barrack-sergeants, thus showing a reduction in the years of 54 barrack•masters, five, clerks, and 42 sergeants. In Ireland the establishment was not one third more than it was in 1824. He thought that the ord nance department were entitled to credit fur the reductions they hail effected. The next head lie came to, was the ordnance expenditure, and he was prepare'', if necessary, to show that it was less as compared with that in time golden time of the hon. member, namely, 1792. At that tune, also, the ordnance had not to defray the charge of the ordnance survey, or the ordnance sea service. Ha would mit, however, enter into details. It ought to ne recollected that the ordnance had to euperinend the budding and repairing of lot ts and barracks in almost all p irts of the world, and it was absolu ely necessary that the utmost care should be taken, to see that the work was properly done.—(Hear, hear, hear.) lie ought previously to have observed, that the ordnance had determined, for the future, to have as much work performed by contract as they safely could. In that case, however, it would be alisolutely necessary to keep up many officers to superintend the buildings and see that good matetials ware used, that the work was properly done, and al--o that the articles furnished by con • tract were of the pope'. quality. The bon. member m ale seven' observations respecting stores which lie (Colonel Maberley) cow(' scarcely class in any order. The hoe. mintier complained of the large stuck of stores. Un doubtedly there was a large stock, but the Ordnance were taking seeps to reduce i'. There was then sitting at Wool %tech a committee to inquire into the subject, with a view to determine the quantity of stoles net should be retained, and what should be disposed of. Wi h respect to tae ma nufacture of gunpowder, when they had such a large stock in hand, be would only observe that nut noire theta one or two thousand barrels were m ode in ti e year, and it was considered desirable that this manufacture should be conti nued, fur the put pose of having a number of persons well acquainted with the niaeufacture of the article, and also that scientific experiments might be tried as to the menu facture. With respect to the establish Meat at Fcversham the hon. member was in error, as it had been dune a.vay with some years age.—( Hear, bear.) He had already admitted that the quantity of stores on hand was very large ; but it would not do to get lid of the whole stock, as had been suggested by the bun. gentleman. He was sure that the house would agree with him that the Ordnance would he guilty of a great neglect of duty if they did not keep up sufficient stores to be prepared for hasti lilies. His Alajeaey's Ministers had fully concurred in the recommendations of the committee, of which his honourable friend the S orekeeper of the Ord nance was Chairman, respecting the keeping of stores. The committee recommended that there should not be an accumulation of stores fur more than a consumption of three or four years, and also that a great part of the surplus stores should be disposed of. It like wise recommended that many attic:es now manufactured should, for the future, be purchased by contract. His hon. friend the Storekeeper-General had acted upon the suggestions of the committee, and he (cal. Maberley) would not do more than refer to what had been done since the committee made their report on the 29th of July, 1833. It was found on examination that nu less than 13,050 various articles were in the depot in Tooley street, and the - military committee had struck out those articles which they thought should not be kept. In 1833 the number of articles in store was 13,056. There were then only fifty.eight articles in store in Tooley•street (Hear, hear.) He was, therefore, justified in saying that they had succeeded in making a more sweeping reduction than was suggested by the hon. member for Middlesex. He trusted that he had shown to the satisfaction of the house that the Ordnance establishment was not larger than was necessary. A desultory conversation thin arose, in which Mr. Ag lionby, Mr. Hume, Mr. Littleton, Wood Maberley, Mr. Shaw, and Mr. Warburton took part. . Mr. G. F. YOUNG asked whether any steps had been •aken to reduce the stock of tnuskets and gunpowder on hand. He found that there were 96,000 muskets in store, and 240,000 barrels of gunpowder. It would take forty or fifty years to get through such a stock. Colonel MABERLEY observed that the committee re commended that there should be a stock of gunpowder kept on hand (goal to two and a half or three yeas' con. ,umption. The average consumption of gunpowder wa s bout 6 000 barrels. With respect to the stock of nuts. kets, he thought that there were many objections to dia. posing of them. Mr. G. F. YOUNG thought that t; ree years' stock of ;unpowder was too large a quantity to keep on hand,. The vote was then agree I to. The next vole was 6,1784 to defray tile expeubes of &c., at the thdliaLee Department, Woolwich.•—• A :reed to. The fo,lowing resolutions were agreed to, after brie f c mv-rsations, viz.:— 15,237/. for (i, fr ying the salaries of the estah ishment "t the Office of Ordnance at the whole of the stations at nrn+ . 26,9981 for the salaries of the Office of Ordnance at th, out--!arions in Ireland and foreign parts. 36,19-11. for the salaries of barrack-masters, deputy ,xrvack-masters, and sergeants of barracks in Great Bri lain, Ireland, and the Co!onies. 5,000/ for the salaries of the master.gunners of the sev,ral ga , risons and batteries in Great Britain, Guernsey, Jersey, and Irehod. 75,411/. for the expenses of the Royal Engineers, com monly called the Sappers and Miners, and the establishment for the education and tr,ining of S.ppers and Miners in Great Britain, Ireland, and the Colonies. 276,2271. for the pay of the Royal Regiments of Artil- Hy in Great Britain and Ireland. 35 97i/. for the pay of the Royal Horse Artillery and Ri•iing-houses in Great Britain and Ireland. 2061. for the expenses of the Director-General of Artil lery and Field Train Department. 10,1981. for the expens , s of the medical e , tablishment f the milt try department of the Ordnance in Great Bri tain Ireland, and the colonies. 30,7:38/. for the superintendence of Ordnance works and repairs in Great Britain, Ireland, and the colonies. Mr. CORBETT complained that the regulation required all candidates for commissions in the artillery service to aye been educated at the Wooiwi,:ii Academy. Ttlis pre vented privates from ever hoping to receive cototni.:sions, however deserving them, which he thought an injustice to the country at large. Mr. HUME hoped the time was not far distant when a ray of hope would be held out to the soldier in every branch of the service of rising from the ranks, as in France and other countries. Sir E. KERRISON had the honour of knowing many valuahle officers who had served under him who had been so raised for their merits. The vote was carried without a div.isi6n. The next vote of 29,714/. for the extraordinaries in t,:e o...fiance in the colonies was agreed to without a discussion. Upon the vote of 28 0761. for the superintendence of repairs of barracks and fortifications, Major BEAUCLERK should move the reduction of the amount taken for these fortifications. Mr. STANLEY suvested that the sum to which the hon. and gallant member had alluded had been granted on another vote, and he must move his amendment upon the bringing up of the report. Mr. G. F. YOUNG complained of the largeness of this sum for superintendence, which was twenty per cent. upon the expenditure. Colonel MABERLEY said that the duties were arduous and responsible, and could not be adequately provided for at a less charge. Mr. COBBETT said that, of all the cheating and robbery that ever took place in the world, nothing ever eqarilled the doings in the barrack department in the colonies. Would the hoatse believe it possiale that a birrack ha I been entirely built in the colonies by the soldiers, without a farthing addition to their pay, and a charge of fourteen or fifteen thousand pounds made at home fir the building? Ha believed it, for he had superintended the buil ling of it.—(H , ar, and laughter.) The right lion. Secretary for the Colonies asked when this was ? Why it was before the right hon. gentleman was born.— (A laugh.) He had no doubt be could prove it even n ow if he could get access to the papers of the office. He mentioned the mat er to put the right bon. gentleman on his guard against such things for the future, and to assure him that nothing on earth equalled the roguery carried on by the people in the colonies. It had become so inveterate that he believed nothing short of the fear of the eternal wrath before their eyes, would deter them from their roguery.—( Laughter.) Mr. STANLEY was very sorry to hear from the hon. member that in the building of any harrack,in the superin tendence of which he was engaged, these should have been so much roguery.—(Hear, and a leugh.) The fact was, that it was in consequence of this very system of cheating in the colonies that the works had been transferred to the Ordnance, the superintendence of which formed the ground of the present vote. The vote was then agreed to. The next vote moved for was a grant of 14,4041. for extraordinaries of the Ordnance.—Agreed to. - The next item, of 65,031./., for barrack-masters' ex penditure, and lodging-money to officers in Great Britain, Iceland, and the colonies was then proposed. Mr. COBBETT deprecated the increase which was yearly taking place in expenses of this description. Kings had teen encouraged, of late yea's, to surround them selves with barracks and a forest of bayonets, as if they were afraid to trust their lives to the affections of their people. Such was not formerly the case ; in the times of Wiliam 111. and the first Georges, the royal guard of honour was kept up more as a show, than by way of def.nce to the royal person. The following items were then agreed to, without comment :-129 582/. for military, civil, and !wrack contingencies; 55,0001. for military and ordnance stores; and 20 0001. on account of stoles required for toreign works and repairs for the year ending March SI, 1836, ; 3,5141 for Ordnance Office expenses, unprovided for in the years 1832 end 1833 ; and 1,7471. for Exchequer fees. On the sum 01.168,198/. being voted for superamtuated allowances, witloxs' pensions, &c., Mr. IJUNIE asked a question which was inaudible ira the gallery, to winch Colonel MABERLEY was understood to reuly that co officers av , re permitted to remain on the superannuation lit who were capable of service. After a few observations frotn Mr. COBBETT, Mr. RUTIIVEN, Mr. HUSIE, and Colonel INIABEILLEY, the vote was agreed to. The hou , e then resumed, and the report was ordered to be received on Mond4y. POLISH EXILES. Oa the motion that the house do resolve itself into a committee on the Exchequer of Receipts Bill, Laid DUDLEY STUART rose to rut a question I n the noble S i...etary for Foreign Affairs, whom he had the pleasure of seeing in his place, It appeared from thw n tirspapers that a circular had been addressed, on the pare of the Emperor of Russia, to the several European G. vernments, desiring them not to receive or afford staceour to any Polish exiles who might happen to come into their respective territories. He (Lord Dudley Stuart) would be glad to know whether any authoritative message had been received by the British Government? Lord PALMERSTON had no hesitation in replying to his noble fro.nd s iiquiry that no such communication as he alluded to had been received by his Majesty's Govern.- mint. EXCHEQUER OF RECEIPT BILL, The house then resolved itself into conatoistee on the. Exch, quer of Receipt Bill. On tiie second clause being proposed, Mr. HERRIES rose to make a few remarks upon some of the general tea'ures of the bill. The first particular in the new Exchequer arrangements to which he would adv,rt was that by which two officers were appointed to the head of the departments, either of whom had full authority to act in the absence of the other. It was entirely a matter of discretion with those officers to ab sent themselves, leaving a subordinate officer as their deputy, eothed with all the authority and responsibility of the office. Now he (Mr. Herries) thought it was very expedient to the public service that the public business should be directed by the principals, and not by deputies. As the bill stood there was only au efficient and constitu tional control over one officer ; and in that department, which was one of so much public responsibility, there should he the most efficient control, whereas before there was a double chance of efficiency and integrity, as there was a control over two. In all issues of orders of money such a security was desirable. The office of the teller and that of the auditor were heretofore placed under r p e r n o e e r c of h t e w ck o . not greater diedrs e e n c r i t t y h a t t h a t n h eocnoen. cur . an efficient control over the principal officer ; but h e officers It couldgave w -s alleged that the entries of the assistant would be (Mr. Herries) did not consider that it was a fair or safe mode of managing so important a public department to have only one chief officer and another to check him. That was a b xl remedy against fraud or negligence. The system of double entry was no safeguard against frauds. It was undoubtedly a good mode of keeping one's own accounts, but if one allowed another to adopt that system in keeping his accounts it would be opening to the agent a door for fraud. Under the French government, and in the management of the weighty concerns of the Eist India. Company, there were no large sums that were not checked by another. He (Mr. H.) hoped that if the government would not allow two officers in opposition to each other. they would not appoint two officers to the same office. The office of the assistant should not be designated in the same way as that of the principal; there should be a distinction drawn, so that one should not be a mere agent Of the other. If the Coition oller.General, in case of illness, or from any other cause, were not able to dis liarge the duties of his office, and it appeared there was :lathing laid :loran in the bill by which to ascertain what would coustitu:e cause of absence ; there could be wham