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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. 110 USE OF COMMONS, SICti'EMBER 5. Colonel EVANS presented a petition from the inhabi tants of the four districts of the tohni of Manchester, rela tive to the coneeptenees of certain 'clauses of the Reform Bill, and praying that such alterations might be made as would extend the franchise. The petition wat T 5. OH by John Whittle, as chairman of the meeting at which it was adopted. The lion. Member moved that it he printed. Mr. HUNT said the chairman of this meeting we.s the proprietor of a Newspaper, who had before reed out for " the Bill, the whole Bill, and nothing but the Bill," but it appeared now that be was dissatisfied with the Bilk After a few words from the SPEAKEn, and one or two other Members, relative to the printing of the petition, which could only be taken as that of the person who signed it, Colonel Evans withdrew the motion for printing it. The petition was then read, and ordered to lie on the table. The same HoN. MEMBER then presented another peti tion !--.) the same effect. 'Mr. BRISCOE presented a petition signed by the Se cretary ott behalf of the Labourers' Benefit Society, No. 51, relative to the Bill now in Parliament, by which parishes Were to be empowered to hire land to the extent of 50 acres, for the purpose of letting it out in small allotments to the poor. They prayed that instead of limiting the quantity of land to 50 acres, every parish mieht be em powered to hire as much land for allotting to the poor as the wants of the poor of the parish might require; and that also every parish in the metropolis might have the power to rent land for a similar purpose within ten miles of the parish. The Hon. Me:nber said he concurred in the prayer of the petitioners, and he would reserve his ob servations upon the subject until the Bill should ba in Committee. The HoN. :MEMBER neat presented a petition signed by 950 inhabitants of the metropolis, praying for the abo lition of punishment for religious opinions, and pray inn also that the House would address his ilLjesty to remit the remainder of the sentence upon the Rev. Robert Taylor, us an act of grace at the approaching Coronation. Deprecating as he (Mr. Briscoe) did the opinions of that individual, and lamenting their influence on the minds of the people, he must still say that he highly disapproved that an individual should be subjected to a punishment disproportionate to the character of the offence, and he thought that Mr. Taylor had a very just cause of com plaint, when he found a very different sentence passed upon Richard Carlile, in an adjoining county, for a simi lar offence. Mr. HUNT concurred in the prayer of the petitioners, and expressed his hope that the Hon. Mtmber, who was a Magistrate for Surrey, would exert that influence which he possessed, to procure a remission of the remainder of Mr. Taylor's sentence. Mr. BRISCOE said the Hon. Member greatly over rated his supposed influence. The petition was read and ordered to be printed. Mr. FOLEY presented a petition from the noaltsters of Dudley, in Worcestershire, against the use of molasses in distilleries. _ . . Mr. M. O'FARRELL presented four petitions from as many parishes in the county of Kildare, against the grant to the Kildare-street Society ; also a petition from the Patriotic Insurance Company in Ireland, praying for a repeal of the duty on marine insurance.—They were read and ordered to be printed. Mr. STEWART presented a petition from the diocese of Kilmore in favour of the grant to the Kildare-street So • eicty.—Ordereil to be printed. Mr. FLUME presented petitions from the Catholic Clergy and Laity of Myress, in the county of Cork, and also from Eden, against the grant to the Kildare .street Society. The petitioners prayed, that as the street Society had not answered the expectations of his Majesty's Government, no more money might be granted for its support, and that whatever sums might be in future grantad for education in Ireland might be so appropriated as to he properly applied to each creed, the objection of the petitioners being that the children in these schools were educated by persons of a different persuasion. 'I Hon. Member then presented a petition from the parish of Marylebone, agreed to at a public meeting, complaining of the heavy rates levied in that parish, and their mismanage meet by a self-elected vestry. They prayed for the abolition of theaelf-elected vestry system. The Hon. Member said, this pal ish was kept in a state of irritation by the proceedings of this self elected and irresponsible body, by whom the parish fonds were illegally and unconstitutionally appropriated. He therefore hoped that his Majesty's Government would speedily put an end to a system which caused so much ill will and dissatisfaction. The petition was read and ordered to be printed. Mr. HUME then presented three petitions, one from the inhabitants of Dudley, the second from certain inha bitants of the metropolis, and the third signed by 5,000 inhabitants of Manchester and Salford, complaining of the prosecutions for religious opinions, and praying the inter position of the House with his Majesty for a remission of the sentence upon the Rev. Robert Taylor. The Hon. Member said that he understood the signatures were those of respectable persons, but he was bound to add that the first name on that from the metropolis was that of Mr. Taylor himself.—(A laugh.) The petitioners especially deprecated the prosecutions being conducted by a self constituted body, calling itself the Society for the Suppression of Vice. In presenting these petitions toe Honourable Member (Mr. Hume) wished to tea understood as not in the lcatt identifying himself with the opinions of Mr. Taylor, and he regretted that individual hail forced those opinions en the public ; but still he was the decided e nemy of all prosecutions for religious opi nions, and be considered the prosecution of Mr. Taylor a disgrace to any conntacy, in which the inquisition was not established. So many petitions, signed by such numbers of persons, upon this subject, had been presented to this I louse, that he entertained a hope that the attention of hie Majesty's Government would shortly be called to it. The petition was read, and ordered to be printed. [At this stage Mr. Straw, the Recorder of Dulilin, and a'ely returned for that city, was introduced, and took the oaths and his seat.] Captain GORDON was anxious to embrace the oppor tunity furnished by the reference that had been made to the Society for the Suppression of Vice, to state shortly from an official prospectus its constitution and principles. Their first object was to olieck the !rade in licentious pictures ; and since the institution of the So ciety 69 prosecutions bad been instituted, of which ;into one or two had failed of success. The second head of the Society's plan was to repress blasphemous publications, and thirty three places formerly notorious fir the sale of Mich pro ductions had been discontinued in consequence of the So ciety'sexertions. This alone, the Gallant Officer submitte was an advantage of no ordinary value to the welfare of so • viety. The third object was to enforce, as far as pos sible, obedience to the laws for the preservation of the Sabbath. Their prosecution' tinder this bead amount, to no less than two thousand, many of which had been undertaken at the solicitation of magistrates and ministers of religion. The Hon. 'Member considered it a duty which he owed to the House to mak e thi s statement he was willing that the Society should be. canvassed, but if it was impeached, the ilar i seaehment should be Faced n a knowledge of the real objects and operations of the Society. Ile would only say it hail been found worthy of the advocacy of a Portent and a Bishop Watson. Mr. HUME said it was the duty of his Majesty'' Attor ney-General to undertake all such prosecutions, and he could not ace why any private individuals, whose n ones were unknown to the public, ought to institute and carry on such prosecutions. Colonel GORDON was quite ready to furnish the Hon. Member with a list of the members of the Society. Mr. PRINGLE bore testimony to the good character, ljects, and successful operation of the Society. HUME presented a petition from a number of per sons in the metropolis, stating their regret that a great many individuals had been arrested and confined under the 16th George 11. chap. 23, usually called the Hawkers and Pedlars' Act, for selling publications in the street. As ten individuala were now imprisoned, they prayed for corn palliation for loss of time, and that the House would pass a Bill of Indemnity to those liable to prosecutioas. Colonel SIBTHORPE thought this subject very im portant ; and as a new species of article h now been got "P in the shape of a political handkerchief, printed on cotton, measures should be taken to suppress it. Ile con sidered it a fraud upon the public, on the revenue, and on those Editors of Papers who were obliged to pay for stamps. Mr.Alderinan WOOD had hail a person before him to day, who had been in the Compeer since Saturday, for selling these tracts; and, after hearing the whole case, he had felt bound to discharge him, being confident that what he had done was only to save himself from starvati on . Mr. HUME bad no hesitation in saying that many of these publications contained a good deal of dangerous mat ter, but be thought th e best way to ,put S ro ' publications woo to abolish the Statute an end t ute alto.ethe lfe had not the least doubt, unless that was done, everykind of article would be made u se of for the purpose of enabling parties to put forth these sort of publications. The HON. Muaosan presented petitions from Stockport, the Brunswick Brewery, in Kent, front the Golden-lane Brewery, and from Stepney, against any alteration being made in the Beer Laws as they at present existed. In doing so, the Hon. Member hoped the present session would hot pass by without a Bill being brought forward, giving leave to the retailers of beer to keep open their houses as late as the gin shops. Sir JOHN NEWPORT thought the came indulgence ought to be given to . the beer-shops as was extended to the public-hotosts. Ile would much rather enthiorage the sale of beer than that of ardent spirits. • Sir RICHARD VYVYAN thiMght the Hon. Baronet who had :just spoken had forgot that public-houses were lie-nsed by Magistrates, and that the Hon. Membr for' itiidtitesex had made the great mistake of 'otifounding the public-houses in the country wi'h those in town. The great object of the Magi•stre'Ves in wishing to put down the beer-shops wan ; that they might be placed under the con trottl -Sl7 the police, and he was sure, if these places were allowed to be increased, the peace of the country would re quire an increase of the police. Mr. WILKS observed that it must lee at:parent that the police, at the present moment, heal an authority to enter any beer-house that was tact properly conducted, and no one could keep tine of these houses without entering into a bond for the preservation of the peace. Mr. WEYLAND was not aware of the right of a con stable to enter these beer houses when they pleased, and he had no hesitation in saying-, that these houses often sold much more intoxicating liquor than the regedar publicans. He Ireiieved that great distinctions ought to be made hetween the houses in town and those in the country, in which latter place many of these houses occasioned great imischief, and were the means of corrupting the lower classes of society. Mr. HUME saw no reason for putting thee, houses undt r any regulation; he did not see why beer would not be sold i in the same manner as tea and sugar ; he considered the beer-shops had great ground of complaint, and he hoped ,ill these diecttsaions would end in the sale of bre: ;Join; throtrn completely open. Mr. ESTCOURT would tell the non. Member for Mid dlesex that the reason why beer should not be sold in the same manner as tea and sugar was, that the one made a man drunk, and the other did not.—(Laughter.) Mr. D. W. HARVEY suggested that the better way of suppressing the gin shops would he to enable tire poorer classes to brew for themselves—(Hear; hear)---and that would be most effectually done by taking the duty off ma k...e( Hear, hear ) It another tax was required in its place let a property tax be substituted. He weeid also suggest that in every parish there should be implements for brewing to lend to the poor, as perhaos it was not generally known that a gentleman lending his brewing utensils was 1 subject to the penalty of ;AL "STEAM PACKETS. Colonel SIBTHORPE begged to call the attention of the Secretary at 'War, whom be now saw in his place, to what he had stated on a previous occasion with respect to steam pickets, denominating themselves war packets. The Right Hoc, Secretary was doubtless aware of the many accidents that hail lately occurred on board these packets, and he (Colonel Sibthorpe) trusted he would do something to deprive them of thus imposing on the publics Sir H. PARNELL observed, that the owners of the vessels, referred to by theGallent Colonel, had made use of th e names on account of the conditions of their contracts, and until those etentracts ceased he could not very well see what alteration lie could make. Colonel SIIITHORPE then gave notice of his intention to eariee to-morrow for the appointment of a select Com mittee, to take into consideration the many calamitous ac cidents that hid taken place on band steam peekets. Mr. HUNT presented a petition from the industrious Masses of the metropolis, complaining of the imprison ment of persons for selling the Poor Alan's Guardian. The Hoefougamot Meestueo also gave nodee of hi; intenti on to move to-morrow that an homble address he presented to his Majesty, praying his Majesty to exer else an act of grace to all Crew debtors on the approach ing Coronation, and Blau for the grant of a sum, cot ex ceeding 21,0001., to be appropriated for the discharge of debtors imprisoned for small sums throughout the United Kinedom. Mr. Alderman WOOD presented two petitions from merchants, ship-corners, and others interested in the navigation of the river Thames, in favour of the Bill for the regulation of steam-boats in the port of London. The Honourable Alderman then stated, thet from what had passed on former occasions he was induced to proceed no further with that Bill, and that be should therefore withdtaW it—at the same time eiving notice that ho would on a future day move for a Select Cotnmittre to investigate the best mode of prevents ing accidents by steam-vessels. The order of the day for the second reading of the , Steam-boats Bill was then dierharged. LIVERPOOL ELECTION. Mr. GRANVILLE VERNON rose to move that a new writ be issued for the borough of Liverpool. fie was aware bow precious the time of the House was at the present period, but he was induced to make his motion cri the broad and eciiii grounds of Parliamentary usage and comeaen right. He was aware of the difficulties he had to encounter from the opposition of the Honourable Member for Wiltshire (Mr. litinett) ) as well as of the Hon. Member for Ipswich, and he could not but conceive that those difficulties were somewhat in the nature of a pettyfogging Reform, at a time when the House was en gaged iel carrying into effect a large andgentral Measure of Reform. He thought,while such a geoeral measure of Refre m was under disettion, It Would be much better to allow this writ to isrees without entering into any discussion on it. `!'lose Honourable Members would not be convene Itosed as to any ulterior measures they might !hint: proper to adopt by agreeing to his proposition. His attention had been called to this sOl.ject on the presentation of a petition signed by 14 000 merchants, bankers, and others ef Liverpool, praying to be allowed a full representation, and the only Hon. Member for Liverpool had stated in the House, that the great eel varied interests of that large commereiel town could not be properly at tended to by one representative. He brought forward this motion en the ground of public expediency, for he conceived that a population of two hundred thousand inhabitants, and producing a million of revenue, were en titled to the benefit of a full representation. He did no t atoetept to deny that groan brlbety and corruption hat prevailed et the elections in that town, for it was in evidence that the returns of Mr. Roscoe, Mr. Canning, and Mr. Ituskisson were obtained by that corrupt system ; bet there was no precedent to justify the tuspension of a writ for so long a period. At this oerticOlter peeiod, while the Reform Bill watt being discussed, it was unjust to leave a large hortugch like Liverpool without a representative, unless some Parliamentary precedents could be produced to justify it. The Hon. Member, after citing the cases of Grarnpound, Penrhyn, East B.ctfood, trod Aarnataple, none of which, he contenderh applied to this case, concluded by moving that A, tretV writ be issued for Liverpool. Mr. BENETT (Wilshire) said there had been an un derstanding in the House that the writ for Liverpool should ' be suspended till he brought Forward his motion on the subject. He did not wish to delay the Reforin Bill, but, as Chairman of the Cotnwittee on the Liverpool petition, he felt it his imperative duty ItO propose a series of resolu tions, pledging the House to take the subject into serious consideration. (The Hon. Member then proceeded to read several extracts from the evidence taken before the Liver pool Election Committee, and which had been printed se veral months since by order of the House.) 'This evidence, he proceeded to eontend, could leave no doubt on the mind of any min that gross bribery and corruption prevailed tnost extensively in Liverpool at the electien before the last. Five pounds were given by tile friends of both cane didates in the early part of the election, but as it pro ceded 401. was the price given for a vote. It might na turally o:cite surprise that so large a sum should be spent by any man for the sake of obtaining seats in that House It was to he considered, however, that there was enor mous patronage in Liverpool, which had hitherto been placed at the disposal of the Member of that town, if he happened to be a supporter of the Government of the dey. Such practices, he hoped and believed, were now to he done away with fur ever. —(Hear, hear.) It was nntot hors, however, that the situation of Town Clerk of Liverpool was worth 4,0001. per annum, and that there were several other situations averaging between 2,0001. and 3,000/. a year in that town, in the disposal of which the Members had usually exercised a great in fluence. He did not believe that either of the gentlemen who were candidates at the election bad any sinister mo tives, or any other object in view hut the laudable ambi tion of obtaining so high an honour as a seat in that House for the great commercial town of Liverpool. He acquitted the candidates themselves of any improper mo tives, but there might be other persons behind the curtaiu who tool an eye to the disposal of the patronage, and with that view were willing to spend la-ge sums of money in bribing the electors. However this might be, he con ceived that the constituency of Liverpool, by gross and ex tensive corruption, bad forfeited their rights. The lion. Member concluded by moving a series of resolutions, to the effect that the House agreed with the report made by the Select. Committee on the 26th March last, that gross bribery prevailed at the late election for Members to serve in Parliament for Liverpool—that the House had taken the subject into its most serious consideration—and that it was the opinion of the House that leave should be given to bring in a Bill to prevent bribery and corruption in future elections for the borough of Liverpool. The question having been put on the amendment, Mr. HUME should support the original motion, because he considered that the extensive Reform Bill now before promdings in the Hum would put a check to all such if the borough of Liverpool for the fettute.—( ll ear.) there had not been eo staleeping and important a general Deform Bit: before the House, however, he should have felt it his duty to give his support to the amendment pro posed by the Hon. Member for Wilts. Lord AIORPETH, as a Member the Committee, felt himself called upon to 'state that a case of gross and extensiVts!ceitst!lption had been clearly made out. Never theless, as his object was to prevent rather than punish, and as he conceived the present Reform Bill would effec • tually prevent the recurrence of bribery, he should sup' port the original motion. Mr. WASON thought it a etrileints flea'Zre in thisdis mission that there aS.ppTse ! : the amendment of the lion. Mertatte'e for Wilts rested their arguments on the general Reform Bill. They were only willing to apply the same remedy to the case of Liverpool—one of the grossest cases of corruption which ever came before the House, or excited the indignation of the country—which they were also willing to apply to the whole of England— to those pure and unsuspected constitneneles which 'returned many of the lion. Alerobers Who Sat around him. Air. LABOtCHERE thought the conduct of the electors of Liverpool sufficient to justify the House in dis franchising them ; but as it was a great hardship for a town of such importance to be so long without Members, and as a day wouhl come when suds ptesetitees would be punished, he would vote for issuing the writ. Mr. CROKER was of opinion that the issue of the King's writ at the general election ought to have been a condonation for the past offences of the electors of Liver pool, but the Pelona Bill had produced a great change on this subfect. By that Reform Bill all those electors con iSited of bribery and corruption would not only escape un touched, but would have the right of voting for lifes He therefore most raise his voice against such a coutate course which deprived honest and inSiependent electors of their right, and continted the franchise to the convicted electors of Liverpool. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, en a former occasion, had voted for continuing the writ, not for the pure se of stifling ineeirly, but because it would be a great inconvenittZe for such a large and commercial town as Liverpool to be so long without representation. The questien was, however, whether or no the wt it should issue ? and Members ought to recollect that, though the writ should he issued, the Hotise would not thereby be precluded from going into inquiry, for tile subject could be ae competently taken up after issuing the writ as before.. He had refrained front saying a word on the subject, because he had not formed any decided opinion, and wished to be guided by the opinion of the Home. In that ease. though in scone respects contrary to his opinion, he would vote for the amendment. Mr. VERNON was rather surprised at the statement of the Right lion. Gentleman (Mr. Croker) rel itive to the convicted electors, and the complaint he had made, that, notwithstanding such conviction, they should still he allowed to vote. The Right Hon. Gentleman ought to recollect that, when the franchise was extended from East Retfard to the hundred of Bassetlaw, the convicted electors of that place were allowed to vote, and the Right Hon. Gentle:nal) was one of the strong supporters of that Bill. —(Hear.) Lord AIANDEVILLE said a few words, but they were not audible in the gallery. Mr. AUNT was glad that the Noble Lord, the Chan cellor of the Exchequer, had expressed himself in the way he had done; for, if the House were to vote for the issuing of the writ without inquiry, he should consider it one of the greatest disgraces that could happen. Mr. W'ILKS was quite sure that those who voted fur the suspension of the writ never anticipated such delay as had taken place, and that ought not to be brought forward against them when the general question was again brought under discussion. Mr. C. PELHAM said that, whatever delay might take place, inquiry ought to be instituted. Justice ought to be done, whatever delay or expense might ensue. Justitia fiat root (Yawn. The House then divided, and the numbers were— Noes 70 A yo Majority -41 On re-entering the gallery we found Mr. BENETT cn his legs, moving tor leave to lining in a Bill to prevent bri bery and corruption at Liverpool. 1111.. HUAIE thought that the Bill would delay the great measure of Reform ; if so, he would oppose it in every stag=: after its introduction. Ile had voted for the issuing of the writ. Mr. C. PELHAM was astonished to hear the Hon. Member for Middlesex make that declaration, considering how clearly corruption and bribery had been established be fore the Election Committee, and how strongly that Hon. Member had always insisted upon abuses being corrected. Mr. C. FERGUSON concurred with what the Hon. Gentleman who h id spoken last had said. Mr. WARBURTON said, if the Bill now sought to be introduced were likely to delay the Reform Bill then he should oppose it. Lerd JOHN RUSSELL, as it was not intended to proceed with the Bill until the measure Wfts disposed of, should support the :notion of the Hon. Member for Wiltshire (Mr. Benett). In his (Lord J. Russell's) opi nion such a Bill was highly essential. Air. ROBINSON thought it disgraceful to the House to allow the proceedings at Liverpool to pass without notice, and he contorted in the necessity of bringing in such a that as that now under discussion. Mr. CHOKER looked upon the Bill as aiding and as sisting the measure of Reform. Mr. BENETT begged to say that, if the Hon. Member for Middlesex would review his reendnet, he 'Would be sat is. tied that nothing would he done by him (Mr. Benett) to retard the Reform measure.—( Hear.) Mr. IRTAIE, after hearing what had been asserted, woold not object to the introduction of t he Bill.—(Hear.) Leave was then given to bring its the Bill. SUPPLY. The CHANOMOR of the EN:CHEQUER said that previously to bringing up the clause in the R,forni 13.11, when it was in the Committee, which provided for the payment of harrist rs appointed to revise the lists of voters, it would be necessary to take a resolution of the Committee of Supply for a vote t o p a y them ; and he now, therefore, moved ''that the Home do resolve :'self into a Committee of Supply , to consider in what way to pay the barristers who are to be emp lo y ed in revising tF lists of voters at electors." The question was then put and agr eed to, after a few words from Sir C WETHERELt. and Air. CisokErt. Ca the question being put that the brEAKER leave the Chair, Mr. B. WALL rose for the purpose (before the House went into Committee) of put tin g a q uestion to the Noble Lott!, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, respecting a pro ceedings to which he Would now Call the attention of the House. It would be recodected that, on Priday evening last, there Was a debate on that clause authorising the ap pointment of Commissioners, and he begged that Hon. Members would bear in mind the dates to which he should refer, for upon them depended lunch of what he was about to urge. On the 2d of September the debate took place ; now he had a lett( r which be had that day received, enclosing ;Mother from the Secretary of State's i Office, dated August 21th, which letter he would now. with permission of the House, read.—(Hear ) It was addressed to the churchwardens of St. Mary's parish, Guil ford, and was in these terms t— " Hentlemeti,—l am directed by Viscotint MclbournC to re quest that you will furnish Messrs. Dawson, Drinkwater, and Sanders, with all the information which you possess respecting the boundaries of the parish of St. Mary, Guilford, and other matters connected therewith.-1 em Gentlemen, your most obe dient servant, " GEO. PHILLIPS. " Home Ottice, August 24, 1831." It was, in his opinion, an extraordinary proceeding on the part of his Majesty's Ministers to issue a letter under the authority of the Secretary of State fur the Home Depart ment, requesting that Messrs. Drinkwater, Dawson, and Sanders, who were not then appointed Commissioners— (lkar, hear) —should be furnished with information by the churchwardens upon the subject of boundaries. This document was sent to the churchwardens with another, which he would now real. This bore the date of August 26, and it was also addressed to the churchwardens of St. Marv's, Guilford. It ran thus : , " Messrs. Drinkwater, Dawson, and Sanders, present their 1 compliments, and beg to incline a letter to the overseers of St. Mary's parish, from the Secretary of State for the Home Depart ment; and they beg to add that they shall be obliged by being allowed to inspect the parish books." (Hear, hear.) It was dated " White Hart, Guilford. " Now he hoped that the public would know these facts. Oa the 24th of August his Majesty's Ministers directed a letter to be sent from the Secretary of State's Office, to furnish Commissioners, not then appointed, with infor mation. On ti .e 26th the Commissioners go, and on the 2d day of September the Noble Lord comes down to the House and moves the appointment of the Commis sioners under the Bill, among whose names those g-ntlemen are included.—(Hear, hear.) lie really thought that the course pursued by Government was im proper : the House was treated very cavalierly indeed. — (Hear.) It would have been a more constitutional pro main —it would have been more consistent with the Noble Lord's candour—had he first come down to that House and obtained its sanction for the appointment of the Cononi: sioners, before they had been despatched on their mission.—(Hear.) He was quite aware that it was ne ! ecsary to have further information, and through that House the Bill might pass, but through the other House of Par t litunent in his eonnienee be believed it never (Hear.) He bad thought it fight to mentiUli these bias to the House. He did not know whether he should found a motion Upon the subject; but he was anxious the House aril the public should be made acquainted with what had transpired. The question which he wished to put to the Noble Lord was whether circular letters were or were not sent from the Home Office on the 21th of August to the gentlemen proposed to be appointed Com missioners, and whose names were afterwards submitted to the Committee The CIT.ANCELLoia of the EXCHEQUER, as was understood, said that a letter had been sent through the gentlemen whose names had been mentioned, but that the parties to whom it was addressed were not bound to attend to it The communication was not of that Official character compelling an answer. The Ho nour ible Gentleman had said that he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) would have acted with more candonr had he stated what wet-e the intentions of Ministers re specting the appointment of Commissioners. The House would recollect that be had informed the Committee on the Reform Bill that inquiries were going on—(Hear) —and part of those inquiries had reference to the proceedings now complained of by the Hon. Member. The object Isis Majesty's l'iitlistert was to Coll'aa materials for carry ing into effiet tha Fill, and until the Committee had de cided that Messrs. Drinkwater, Sanders, and Dawson should be Commissioners, they were of course not ap pointed. If Government had postponed collecting this information until the Bill bad passed the Lords, then blame would have been cast upon Ministers.—( Hear, hear, h e ar.) How fry rpiesitly hal it been said, in the discussions on the Bill, that there ought to nave been much more informatien obtained, and how often bad Mi nisters been charged with negligence on that head ? Sir C. WETHERELL Considered the proceeding named by the Hon. Member (Mr. B. Wall) so extraordinary, being neither more nor less than an infringement of the privileges of the House, that lie should assuredly found a :notion upon it—(fear) —and he now said that on Wed nesday he would bring it forward. The Noble Lord had treated the affair as a matter of course. He (Sir C. We therell) viewed it in a very different light. It was a most extraordinary and unconstitutional mode of proceeding, to islets letters from the Under-Secretary of State's Office, treating persons as Commissioners under the Bill before their appointment had received the sanction of that House; before the Bill had been read a third time. Mr. HUME was sure that the country would thank Isis Majesty's Ministers for what they had done.—(Hear.) It was part of the tactics of those who opposed the measure to get up every thing which could delay it.—(Hear.) This was the game practised by the opposers of the Bill. He was surprised, or rather he ought to say he was not surprised, because it tendril to delay the Bill going into Committee—(Allrugby—ihar lion. Gentlemen, who had so repeatedly cried " Give is further information—let us have full and accurate data upon whirls to proceed—Mi nisters ought to products information," should now turn round and complain that information was about being ob taMed. Oh ! but they said "it was procured impro perly—it was an unconstitutional way of getting informa tion." This appeared to bins to be blowing hot and cold— (Renewed laughing)—but, as he had just said, he be lieved their object was only to delay the progress of the Bill. He urged his Majesty's Ministers to proceed with the inquiry.—( Hear.) Mr. B. WALL now understood from the Noble Lord that the Commiaiioners hail no authority to compel the information to which the letter of the Under-Secretary had reference. ITe (Mr. B. Wall) had that morning received a letter from his friend, the churchwarden of Guilford—(A laugh)—he would repeat that it was from a friend, and be hoped the country would know in what wry the middle orders were treated when spoken of in that House. The Commissioners told that gentleman that they bad come by the authority of Isis Majesty's Government—(Hear) — and he hoped that it would go forth to the world that the Commissioners had no such authority. Sir E. SUGDEN was not disposed to find fault with the arrangement if the object were to obtain information. He had himself pointed out to the Committee the necessity of having further information at different times. He must, however, object to the Commissioners exercising their offi cial character before they were legally appointed ; and the question now was, whether they had proceeded officially to the performance of their duties by direction of Government? Mr. WARBURTON said what he understood the Noble Lord to assert was, that the Commissioners had no autho rity under the Bill.—(Hear.) They trail, he presumed, authority from the Secretary of State's Office—(Hear) — and he was extremely glad to find that the inquiries were set on foot to enable them to psi form their duties. Mr. 11. HUGHES said, on Friday last, in answer to a question which he had himssff lust (we believe) to the Noble Lord, inquiring whether the Commissioners had pro ceeded to obtain information, the Noble Lord had signified that the information was in the way of being obtained. The discovery now made appeared to be what might vul garly be called a mare's nest.—(A laughs.) Mr. CROKER begged to ask why was not this infor mation obtained before ?—( Hear.) Why were not these facts rsspecting Guilford brought forward wben that boroughs was under discussion?—([)ear.) It seemed that the Noble Lord disposed of a matter, and then called for information. Mr. HUNT wished to know whether a gentleman named Talents, whose name stood among the Commissioners, was the Mr. Talents, the agent of the Duke of Newcastle, and who had been emplsyed in the Special Commissions in the West of England ? He (Mr. Hunt) had received letters from the West of England stating a wish, if the gentleman was the one whom they suspected him to be, that he should not visit irs his official capacity that part of the country. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that the Mr. Talents so appointed a Commissioner was the agent of th e Duke of Newcastle, and had been engaged in the Special Commissions. He (the Chancellor of the Exche quer) then defended the Committee and Government from the charge thrown out by the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Croker), that information was sought to be procured re lating to Guildford after the borough had been dealt with. It appear e d to him necessary to have infotmation for pro ceedings with the machinery of the Bill, as the delay was so great.—(llear, hear, from Sir C. Wetherell.) Ile would not use the word " delay" if it were disagreeable to the Hon. and Learned Gentleman—(A laugh) —but the Bill was going Twa rd so slowly, that is was thought better to have th e information wanted with as much expedition as possible as soon as the Commissioners were appointed. Mr. CROKER hoped that, on the report being brought up, the, horongh of Guildford would be taken out of schedule B. REFINING OF FOREIGN SUGAR. Mr. KEITH DOUGLAS wished to ask the Noble Lord when lie meant to bring forward his Bill for allow ing the refining of foreign sugar ? Whenever that was brought f o rward, he would move that a Committeeof the whole House should b e a pp ointed to take into considera• thi n the accounts and calc ulations submitted to the Board of Trade relative to the finances, &c. of the West India Islands,which hail been laid before the House in Feb. 1831. Lard ALTIIORI' intended to bring fxward that Bill en Wednesday, but he was afraid it would not be possible. The Speaker then left the Chair, and the House re solved itself into a COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY. Lord ALTHORP moved a resolution in accordance with what he stated in proposing that the House should go into a Committee. In reply to a question front Sir C. WETHERELL, Lord ALTHORP stated that it was not yet in his power to define the number of barristers. Mr. HUME doubted the propriety of snaking the pub lic pay these expenses. The barristers would he more un di r controul and ch e ck if their expenses were paid out of the county rates and out of the funds of time borough where their services were rtquired. Their sittings might be prolonged indefinitely, unless there were some check of this kind phsced on them, and they were under some respon sibility. gen tlemen were to Lord ALTHORP thought , a s these be appointed by an authority higher than that of the county, the suggestion of the Hon. Member would not place them under any controul. The h Rod expenceou thou was to b e incurred for the p ublic benefit, ane ght the public ought to bear tie expence. In boroughs, too, it would be very difficult to apportion accurately the share of the expenee which each parish ought to pay. Mr. `SILKS wished the principle extended, for he was persuaded the expences incurred under the Bill would fall ve ry heavy on the me tro p olitan districts. He wished the ex p e nse should be a s much as possible paid by a general tax , and not by a local tax- Of this he was quite sure, that, the relieftolefnttheo ofpthtrosse persons out of the fund r a is e d for would create great dissatisfactio n b HUNT was of opinion , that tho s e who gained votes ill should pay the expences of securing, m that those who gained nothing by the Bill ttre ug b Eye: tpud t B he country. Mt.o tl should not he called on to pay anything. Mr. HUME suggested, that any individual who re gistered his vote should pay a shilling or half a crown at the time he did so. By adopting that course they would raise a fund sufficient to pay every expellee. Ile under stood that in the county of Middlesex there would he near sixty thousand voters, so that it wad be very easy to raise money enough in the way he mentioned. If they thought half a crown or a shilling too much, then be would pro- sikpcncc, or any sum which would in that way raise a fund large enough for the purpose. Mr. CROKER said they had heard a good deal of the anomalies of the Bill, but of all the anomalies they had yet heard, the most extraordinary would he that which the Member for Middlesex wished to introduce—that those persona should in future pay money for giving their vote, after having throvigliout all the former ty.rt of their lives 7eCzi - zin,;,7 money ior the same purpose.—(Hear, and a laugh.) Most certainly that was one of the anomalies to which he would offer no objection. On the question that the Committee do agree to the resolutions, Mr. HUNT expressed an opinion that some definitive sum should be named instead of voting money in that manner, to lie at the discretion of the Government. Lord ALTTIORP said it would be impossible to tell what t=ine would be occupied by the barristers in the per formance of the duties, and they could not therefore name any sum. Sir C. WETHERELL, adverting to the report that the Commissioners named last week had already com menced their labrnrs, begged to telt the noble Lord a ques tion on that subject. Had the Government, or any Member of the Government, promised these Commis,ioners a guinea a day and their travelling expences ? Lord ALTHORP said, that some of the Commissioners had, he believed, been calk! I on to act, hut no sum beyond their travelling expences had been promised by any Mem ber of the Government as a remuneration for their services. Mr. CROKER observed on the extraordinary fact of these Commitisioncrz being employed in this manner before they were really appointed by the House, and before it was known that their services would be useful—and the Government, at the same time, stipulating to pay the cx pence of that service. Mr. RICE said, the Right Hon. Gentleman must know that the same course had frequently been followed on other occasions by the Government with which that Right Hon. Gentleman was connected, and the money afterwards voted among the contingencies. Mr. CROKER was understood to deny that. Sir C. WE fIIERELL said, the Government, in thus employing the Commissioners, and promising to p7iy them out of the public money before they were really appointed, had been guilty of conduct most uuwarrantabl• and ille gal, and be should certainly bring the question, by a formal motion, under the consideration of the House. Mr. HUME said, he could not allow the expression, unwarrantable, to pass without reprehension. The Go vernment had done what was quite right. It was just the same kind of justifiable expence as that which had been incurred in obtaining information before the introduction of the Bill. Sir C. WETIIERELL thought it rather odd to be called to account fur the use of strong expressions by the Member for the county of Middlesex.—( Hear.) Every body knew that tie language of the Alember for Middlesex was not the smoothe•t to be heard in that House, and that the Hon. Member very frequently fell into very strong expressions himself.—(Hear, hear.) Every body knew that the sentences of the Member for Middlesex required a good deal of the lima labor to render them fit to appear a delivered iq that House—(Hear, hear, and a laugb)—and it was rather too much, therefore, that the Hon. Member should take objections to his. The Member for Middlesex had render ed himself remarkable for his objections to ex penses of all kinds ; but his course in this case would b a little uncommon. The Hon. Member for Aliadlesex seemed inclined to allow the expense then, that he might have the pleasure ofobjecting to it afterwards.—(A laugh.) Air. HUME observed, that the Learned G ntleman was perfectly wrong, and he was perfectly right.—(A laugh.) That was just the state of the case. If he had used the mud unwarrantable improperly he was sorry for it. The resolution was then agreed to, and the House hav ing resumed, the report was ordered to he brought up to morrow (this day). Sir CHARLES WETHERELL gave notice, that on the bringing up of the report, he intended to move for a copy of the circular addressed to the Commissioners, and fur a return of the names of the persons to whom it was so addressed. REFORM. On the motion of Lord ALTHORP, the House then re solved itself into a Committee on !he Reform Bill. Clause 33, which requires the overseers of the poor in every parish to make out an alphabetic Al lit of the persons entitled to be registere), was then read, and several of the blanks having been tilled up, Mr. WILKS said he thought that was the proper occa sion for the consideration of a suggestion he had to offer to the Noble Lord and the Committee, with respect to the payment of the expences of the lists, notice:, and the other forms connected with tie registration. The House and the ,Government did not, he thought, estimate to its full extent the cost of these proceedings. In the division of the Tower Hamlets there would be 40,000 I.ou-es, and he believed the expence of carrying the provisions of the IBill into effect in that district would not be less than two or three thousand a year. Ile thought that a sum so large as this should not come out of the rates. Alderman WOOD said, the whole of the duty could be discharged by a clerk for 200/. a year. Colonel SII3THORPE contended that the expence' would be very great, and that no one could calculate the amount with cert,inty. Lord ALTHOILP said, that the Government thought it much better to have these duties performed by the over seers at the cost of the parishes, than by persons appointed and paid by the State; because they were satisfied there would be a much stricter attention to the expenditure, and that the parishes would be able to keep a more effectual controul over their own officers. Mr. HUNT complained of the power put in the hands of the overseers. Mr. WILKS suggested that the churchwardens in pa rishes where there were not overseers should be invested with the same powers as overseers. After a few words from Lord ALTIIOItP and Sir C. WETHERELL, several other blanks were filled up in the clause. Clause 33, as amended, was then agreed to. Some merely verbal amendments were also introduced into clause 34 ; after which it was agreed to. Lord ALTI-1011P then proposed the s ubstituted clauses, 35, 56, and 37, and the Committee proceeded to the con sideration of them. The 35th clause was agreed to, aft r a few words from Mr. .1. CAMettELL, Mr. Roes, and Sir E. 13. SUGDEN. The 36th clause was also gone through ; and it was agreed to without any other amendment than that pro posed by Mr. Wilks, to provide that copies of notices should be given by the overseers, &c. of any parish, on the payment of the fee of one shilling. The 37th clause, as amended, was ordered to staid part of the Bill. The 38th clause, as amended, was ordered to stand pat of the Bill. The 39th clause was in the same manner agreed to. On the question that the 40th clause 1P agreed to, Colonel WOOD said he was convinced that this proposed plan of registration of voters would he found both too ex pensive and too troublesome to be carried into effect. There was an instance of the same attempt at registration already upon our Statute-book, and it had been a complete failure. In the year 1758 an Act was passed for the registration of freeholders in their respective parishes, and in the follow ing year another Act of Parliament was passed to repeal the first Act, it having been found utterly ineffectual. He believed that, if this clause was passed, an Act would be found necessary in the course of next year to repeal it. Lord ALTHORP said, that the Act of 1788 had not escaped the consideration of the Committee. That Act had been introduced by the late Lord Stanhope., and it gave to freeholders the opportunity of re 4 iste ring them selves in their respective parishes. It fur nished the ma chinery of registration, but it did not compel any parties to employ that machinery for the registration of their free holds. The consequence was, that very few persons availed themselves of the means thus afforded. The Com mittee had considered this circumstance, and, with a view of obviating the objection of the Gallant Colonel, no longer left tile registration a matter of choice, but made it compul sory on the freeholders. The clause was then agreed to. The 41st clause was then agreed to, after some verbal amendments. The 42d, likewise, underwent verbal a mendments ; and the several constructions to which it was liable, as well as other matters connected with it, of a merely technical na ture, were the subject of a conversation, in which Sir C. Wetherell, Mr. Serjeant Wilde, Sir E. B. Sugden, the Attorney-General, and Mr. J.Campbell chiefly participated. counties The clause was eventually a g reed to. The 43d clause was then ag reed to. On st ht ‘thateat the ott uffio v h si e ,r 44 ei t is h einont e l l y a f( u i asmet,hpell:.lprolling of voters .HOU I v ..DS er N m i VOR n large r'li :r th ought v Lord ALTHORP thought that the number of booths that would be opened would he sufficient. Mr. STRICKLAND said, that in the East Riding of Yorkshire there were 30,000 voters, and they would never have time to poll in two days. Sir C. WETHERELL thought that a week was the shortest time to which the poll ought to be limited. Lord ALTHORP said, that in Yorkshire, w id e !, lad been spoken of, there would he fifteen polling places, and in each of those places there could be ss many booths as the case might require. In consequence of that arrange- mcnt, and the facilities which the new system of regi.tra• tion afforded for getting quickly through the poll, be 1 0. satisfied that two days would be found quite sufficient. t - h i, . was known, in the instance of the Norwich election, that . the poll could be taken in two days, and that being th t case, it was desirable that the Bill should provide arrange'. 1 ments,for doing so in all cases, and for compell'ng it to te Mr. 11013INON thought the poll might be taken in two days ; but that, should an unanticipated contest arise, the intervening day, between the nomination and. the commencement of the poll would not be sufficient for giving notice at the different polling-places, so that the, necessary arrangements for Liking the poll might be made in time. Colonel SIBTHORPE objected to the shortness of the period allowed for the poll, as not allowing voters t me to put questions to their cindidates. Mr. WILKS thought, that should a contist arise, it would he impossible to bring the out-vote:s in tim to the Mr. HUNT recommended that the thne slabuld be e• tended to three days. Mr. WRANGH AM said the effect of the clanse would b-! either to dispense altogether with the non-resident voters in counties, or to cause them to be brought down preinatur.ly, on the probability of a contes.. For if coatest should arise, they not being on the spot, it woul d be impossible to send for them. Mr. STRICKLAND said it would require thirty booth s for Yorkshire, and each bomb, with the c!erks, would cost 701., making 2,1001. This was an anomaly which he desired to see removed. He recommended that Yorkshire should be allowe I to return a greater number of c ounty Members. Mr. KEITH DOUGLAS thought it would not be ro sible to pill all ti e electors of populous place-, lik e the 'Tower Hamlets or Manchester, in two days. The question was then put to fill up the blank with the %lords two days, which was agreed to. The other blinks were filled up, and the 44th clause was then agreed to as whole, and ordered to stand part of the Bill. The Cu.\ lamas then reported pr , gress, the House re• snivel, and the Committee was ordered to sit again this day' SUGAR REFINING BILL. Mr. PAULETT THOMSON moved that the Com mittee on the Sugar Refining Bill be postponed till Wed nesday next. Mr. R. GORDON and Mr. KEITH DOUGLAS objected to the course pursued by the Government on this s ubject; and the former proposed, as an amendment, that the rot' ponement be for this day three weeks. The Hon. Member said that he wished Hon. Members to do something ob noxious to the Government en this Bill. The Hon. Mow ber subsequently altered his amendment to Friday week. Mr. GEORGE ROBINSON condemned the Govern' went in -trong terms for having intruduced any such MO' sure into the House. The G r•lery was ordered to be cleared for a division, but Mr. Gordon withdrew his amendment, on its being ettled that the question should come on on Monday nest., The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, anu ;he House adjourned at Five Minutes to Two o'clock. ISO USE OF LORDS, SEPTEMBER J. Lord COWLEY Was introduced by Lord, Mmtvisoaoc okt and STUART DE ROTUSAY, when his Lordship took the oaths and his seat. Mr. BENETT and others from the Commons broog bt up Turton'a Divorce Bill, which had been agreed to with out amendments Two private Bills wore a'so brought up by Sir F. VI I " . CENT and Mr. BERNAL. Lord KING presented a petition in favour of Reform, fro:n the Isle of Wight. his Lordship also presented an other from Ireland, agiiinst the Subletting Act. Earl HADDINGTON presented a petition from Had. dington, against the use of molasses in distilleries. Lard TENTEIIDEN gave notic., that on the loth be would move the second reading of the Bill for the lunit' v tion of time of prescriptions. The Marquis of DOWNSHIRE presented a petitiee from a district in the county of Meath, in favour of the grant to the Kildare-street Societ . COMMERCE WITH PORTUGAL. to The Earl of ABERDEEN rose, pursuant to notice, -4 present a retition from the merchants, manufacturers, 10 sliip-owners concerned in the commerce of this count r i with Portugal, praying for a renewal of the ancient eoar inertial relations between the two countries. The Pe t '' tioners complained that the commercial relations whie had so long prevailed between the two countries, so artie h j to the advantage of both, had been of late interrupted ae suspended. From the extraordinary advantages eniq' i by the subjects of this country in their commercial int er ; course with Portugal, that intercourse was expo'ed inter; many difficulties and dangers, but these difficulties a% dangers had been much increased by the conduct whit, his Majesty's Ministers had lately pursued in regard d Portugal. The difficulties at present did not prorre :nerdy front commercial causes, but a feeling wai l (lured in Portugal which exposed the subjec t s of te eo country residing there for the purpeses of commerce ee be to personal danger. But a future opportunity would , afforded of discussing the commercial policy of this count? in regard to Portugal when the pope's on that which the Ministers had promised to produce, should c " laid on the table ; and when those papers should be P r 'r deiced, he would give a frank and sincere opinion on tlij contents. But it was obvious that the commerce eclu, not be carried on to advantage unless the commercial -for lations between the two countries, which had beendl,' some time suspende I should be again renewed. it carrying on of that commerce was more difficult tha n would be if no other relations had existed than tne re , a ' those of peace, or the absence of a state of war ; for, fr ° ,, the nature of our commerce will Portugal, it was lie c ;, nary that the two countries should stand'on the most !co tin to and friendly terms with each other. The r elati o in which this country and Portugal had stood bet each other had often Been compared to the relation beteo a mother country and its colonies; and the French, a1°,1,1 tealtius of that relation and intimacy, had frequently P o ds out that Portugal was the colony or factory of Eng lae ol The present state of our connection with Portugal , l e , the suspension of the friendly and intimate relation' cl ) tween the two countries, was most injurious to our subjects trading with Portugal, and also most injurio lls the Portuguese, and also exceedingly endangered the Plit of the Peninsula, and even the peace of all Europe. 4 4 was aware of the misrepresentations to which he ell )° , b ,t himself in treating of this subject. He was aware ' l r the Ministers would say, as they had before said, that 301 was always disposed to prop up a despotic power• he must say that charge was not well founded. It s' sf trite that he did not bawl out liberty on all occasioo*w the Ministry did ; but he certainly had no partieubo liking to despotic government in the abstract, . 1 4 looked to o bat was a good government. In look, at Foreign States, his attention was directed to oth er 'l° i' lities besid,a the nature of their government. He col j dered whether they were actuated by a love of England, e of of peace, instead of looking to what was their f° 1111 , 0 0. , government. The Government of Portugal was absof and very imperfect; but so it had been for many ye a to' it had existed for ages , during the time w he n the in°' o ol timate and the most friendly relations bad be en maitit'l e oe between the two countries ; and although the Goveri ll t was absolute, yet all i.s obligations towards us bid', r most honourably . and fairly performed. It might , perPed to he said that his notions of what was due front Bogl en ere Portugal were erroneous. He thought that they of , correct ; but he was sure, at ail events, that this wa'' bi d during a long tract of years, that the French def t domineered without controul in the Tagus.—(Hear, bejt Whatever changes might take place in the GovernnOlott Portugal, or whether any change took place in it or or e our duty was the same; for we were bound to fulfi l the coo ditions of our treaties with that country. It was clea t 1,0 the Portuguese did not desire a free Government, but I v or was no reason why any change should take place to a ds , ft iendly relations with that people. Mr. Canning I' s r lio' claret!, in almost the lairt speech which he made 1)466e; ment, that the people of Spain were adverse to a free ,j o' vernment and Constitution ; and the same might be 6 31 , e r the people of Portugal. We might rail at them for a eefililt stii huts and ignorant race, but the fact was indisru.ce.6 Anti when they saw what had been the conseque n t p ° those countri s in which revolutions had of late cot place, it was not to be wondered at that they were ta r to change. They saw what had been the effect 01 ° 1 glorious days at Paris and at Brussels. They 6'!„b10, baakruptcies that had followed , and the miseries Whi keen produced by these revolutions, and having sea, the, coasequences the Portuguese might well hesitate bef br,o followed the example of France and Belgium. f r , ( 10,1 ought to consider whether our own attempts to tit 4t free Consiltutions into other States had been so sue „s' as to induce us to attempt the same experiment in reg ot it ( Portugal. The Portuguese did not want a flee Co ' 0 1 0 : 1 tion, and the attempt to impose such a Constitutioor the would be like that of the father who as dete iv m w or to make his daughter happy by compelling her CO e tf the loan whom she of all others detested. " aUi er 1 ,0 ,‘ mined (said he) to make her happy, if I break 11 r e i , fur it." This appeared to be the mode in wbieb tbe P t ,„t r Ministers were desii ous of dealing with Portugal ;06e would be better in these matters to leave the Porieg"eg manage their own affairs in their own way. 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