The Sun. — London, England, 1834-03-26 00:00:00

1 t i i i I 1 1 i thus suffered from her machination—th 3 two former Elie robbed of valuable adjoining' pro vinces --the third she has nearly - devoured, and alt e is now drawin g her net closer and closer aroun d fourth victim, which nothing but the interference of England and France can rescue from h er grasping embrace. All accounts con cur in the fact that the SULTAN and MEHEMET are renewing their preparations for war, and all circumstances lead, not to the supposition, but to the conviction that Russia is the prime mover in this second plot. The late and sudden (I ', an ge of the con d uct o f t h at P ower towar d s 1 urk eY, is not made without the best reasons. h t. "' the m ost bi tter an d re l ent l ess enemy , s h e as become her only friend. Not satisfied for merly with occupying Wallachia and Moldavia, she Pursued the Turkish army almost to Con -Btaittino plc,at and stopped short in her victorious cie er only on t h e promise that a vast i n d emn i ty siaultl he paid, or t h ese P rov i nces b e fi na ll y ce d e d. °w all these a d vantages are g i ven up out o f pure zea ' ru sitY—out o f compassion for a neighbour inghis rebellious p :11 ,overeign, overpowered by , 1 . Thi s i s qu i te i n k eep i ng w i t h R uss i an in°,Y---the o n l y o bj ect s h e pro fe sses now i s t h e th u epend ence of Turkey, and the better to secure at , the deluded Sovereign has been induced to !: ve ttl) the k eys o f the Dardanelles—in other le ord s, s lut out Fr a nce and England, and If a.te t he SULTAN to her tender mercies. Soltda se cond attack from MEHEMET ALI r not aff or d a pretence f or i nter f erence , a A t at Con stant i nop l e most i nev i ta bl y w ill. hutt er fiPts, too, are made to gain over France, t ile best interests of the country, and her zeurit y on the sid e o f th e M e dit e rran e an, are : 4 / 4 4 at stak e , t o a ll ow h er t o se p ara t e h e r d e -se from that of E ng l an d, an d t h e indepen once of Eu rope. If LOUIS PHILLIP, how eeer, is made enough to join with the continental pots, or th e even to wink at their despotic deeds, KiPeople of France w ould soon render the ng of the Barricades as harmless as the priest 'et ud C HARLES X. F rom t h e overs i g h t or heren gross negligence of our Government in ref using the SULTAN assistance, Russia has g , ined all this influence. They now seem con scioua of the fact, and, what front the general feeling of the country, and a natural wish, we h ope, on their part to make atonement for the Past, it may reasonably be expected that they take some decisive steps to retrieve the h onour of the country, ind save Turkey from unPending ruin. 1 Col one l EVANS brought forward a petition 'aSt bight, in th e H ouse o f C ommons , which ha dh 4- ueen previously agreed to at a public meet ing' praying that the Polish exiles now 'resident n England might meet w i t h some p ecun i ary rel ief from Parliament. Sir H. VERNEY se epntled th e prayer of the petition, and in doing k , said--c, He t ruste d , as had ouce been said b y an lion and learned member of that house W r h o i!ament, now presided over the other House of Par ree and open tribunal, that that house would ever continue a and °PPressed of every i t i o atio vi n 'ich might the apply distressed ss e d and nD l t apply in vain,no matter ho v high and power - fu were their op p res sors.—(flear.) This was said °lt a discussion relating to Poland, and as that noble l. I, 1 and learned lord wa; now in a station which Justly gave him great influence in the councils his Sovereian, he trusted that he would now e 'te . tt his influZce in doing something to alle ime the distress which had been brought upon m any distiuguished natives of th a t i l l - f ate d - "Untry.—(H ear , hear.)" Lord BROUGHAM, We trust, will think this significant hint worthy lliii a ttentive consideration. He has great a nd a ii"eerved influence in the Cabinet, witn ess e di fil eility with which he has ju s t procur the elevation of Sir THOMAS DEN MAN to use a peerage. M r. O ' CONNELL took up the Ward ett of the P o l es in an intrepid, straight-for. , generous spirit. We like the warmth Wi th whi c h l ie expressed himself. " He should Wis h," h e said, " to see the nation a l sy m p at h y : 13 f t sed in a way th at b ecame a nat i on of te e l e i men. He should like to see a national as m tit : B an individual morality." Lord PAL- M an °ll made j ust the sort of reply that a self; 41a , r k e i s lo when be . has nothing to s a y f or him stronl tool(g y roused ugh his charitable feelings were in favour of the Poles, yet he breeehesPeebd care to ke e p t h e Ministerial pence stoeltets close buttoned. Not a six thou,h, tit ' i l h ld• they get from Government, t e sam e time, Government felt the dee t est, t h e surl i er' tenderest commiseration for their is re , l i n gs• This sort of theoretical sympathy sli. al l vqy ridiculous. Far better his Lord gat had said nothin g at an. The French Papers of :Monti fro m S p ai n of more im ay conta i n some 1t appears th at t h e tr ek's than usua l . Carlists were in such force tinder ZUNIA,LACAREGUI, that they tnade a , and after (14 %h on Vittoria, which they entered they evacuated etriintitting frightful excesses, resit Place, carrying off a number of the most especiable inhabitants as hostages. t o It a „ by no means appears that Madrid was th e Wan t the people feeling very dissatisfied at )e want of ener g y man if este d by t he QUEEN'S go t o f However, if we ma y credit the tailset ac However, from that quarter, the character of b etter 4ilinioistralion is to be changed for the 1). . .- 1 . 1 'he Ministry have resolved to strike a butoll. blovv • CARLOS, a , ) not only against Don r , gal" Dun MIGUEL. For this purpose a - arm ' , • p rice .7 1 s ab out to enter Portugal so as at utvt° An nihilate C ARLOS an d attack Mt to t h e B ar rnY in the rear, and thus put an end cert.. Pretensions of both adventurers together. al l & ~ settl e 04 the interference of Spain would be t h e in ci vil wa r i n P ortugal very soon, and th e c an i is e t, 4ll s ti ol counter ac ti ng t h e d es i gns o f r ves of Fr‘it'n4lore effectually. The favourabletepresenta fto amid England are stated to be . su c h an t " project. The only wonder is `) l ong del. obvious course should have been be that d yed. The reason we apprehend to hea t , . many of th e QUEEN'S advisers are not ) 1 " the cause. 1i ! ,,, 1 --------..........„. th e se health s Paper s of th e 24 t h i nstant state that of the young PRINCE ROYAL is better. Dr. CLARKE, physician to Prince LEOPOLD in this country is stated to have arrived to give the I,cnefit of his opinioh, as al.o Dr. MonEA tr, from Paris. Ihe 35,000 Dutch troops on the frontiers seem to give a good deal of uneasiness to the Belgians. The activity manifested by the Dutch since the arrival of the Prince of ORANGE from St. Petersburgh and Berlin, looks rather ominous at Ste present juncture, especially when taken in conjunction with the warlke demonstra tions in the East of Europe. It is evidenly good policy for the Emperor of RUSSIA to keep up an alarm in the \Vest, and so distract France and England, while he is pushing his game of con• quest in Constantinople. What France and England will do we cannot say, but certain we are that a Tory government would never permit Russia to act as she has been allowed to do for the last two years not even for two minutes. The Tories, with all their faults, had one rare virtue, that whatever they threatened to do they performed with promptitude and spirit. In foreign matters they never suffered themselves to be trifled with. BELGIAN FUNDS.—BRUS3ELS, Mallen 22. Actual Debt, 2 % per Cent. Rothschild's Loan, 5 per Cent 971 Loan of the City, 1832, 4 per Cent. 941 —Brussels Papers, March 24. The contents of the German Papers this morning are rather unusual, as will be seen by the following : BELGRADE, MARCII 7.—We had here a marriage of no common order on the 2d. The twin daughters of our Gover nor, Jefaim, brother of Prince Milosch, celebrated their nup. tials on the same day. The bridegroom of the one was a brewer, from Semlin, that of the other a merchant of Belgrade, both civilians. The hereditary Prince Milan, of Servia, at tended in the name of his father. Five per Cent. Metal!iques 97 ; Four per Cent. ditto 88 3-10 ; Bank Shares I,247f—Allgemeine Zeitung, March 19. REPRESENTATION OF THE COUNTY OF CORK. We have it from undoubted authority that Mr. G. Stan dish Birry has resigned hie seat for the county of Cork. SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE-(THIS DAY) FROM LLOYD'S. DEAL, MARCH 25. Wind N.E., strong breezes.—Sailed the whole of the outward-bound. Arrived and remain with the homeward bound the Towlands, Smith, from Newport for Lon don ; Admiral Lake, Rood, from —; Percy, Moreton, from Demerara; Good Intent schooner, from the Westward; and Eveline, Friend, from Liverpool, for London. PORTSMOUTH, MARCH 25. Wind N. to N.E.—Passed by the Bombay, Sellaway, from China. Pi.vmouTti, MARCH 24.—Wind N.W. to N.—Arrived the New Jane, Pomeroy, from St. Michael's; and Anne, Williams, from Tarragona. FALMOUTH, MARCH 24.—Arrived the Goldfinch packet, from Rio Janeiro—sailed the 14th January; Swallow packet, from Jamaica—sailed the 12th ult; Opossum packet, from the Lee ward Islands, with advices from Barbadoes to the sth, Antigua the 10th, and St. Thomas the 20th ult.; and Effort, Collis, from Licata. MARGATE, MARCH 25.—Arrived off' port the General M`Letn, Freebody, from Cape Coast. RAMSGATE, MARCH 25.—Arrived the Elizabeth, Wallace, Philemon, Smith, from Newry; and Brothock, Watson, from Westport. The William (cutter), and the Adelaide (sloop), were wrecked at Grenada; the former on the 11th January, and the latter on the 13th ult. THE MARKETS.-(THIS DAY.) CORN EXCHANGE. The arrivals of all descriptions of Grain this week are very short ; and of Flour the return is scanty. The Wheat trade manifested no disposition to improve this morning, and prices must remain the same as rated on Monday. Barley, Beans, Pease, and Oats unvaried. Flour remains the same as last reported. ARRIVALS. Wheat. Barley. 920 qrs. 1,619 qrs. English Irish Foreign Oats. I Flour. 740 qn. I 2,110 sacks 750 FUNDS.-(THIS DAY,) CITY. TWELVE O'CLOCK. We have several arrivals this morning from the Westward. A mail from Rio Janeiro, by the Goldfinch, sailed on the 14th January. A mail from Jamaica sailed on the 11th Feb. ; also one from St. Thomas (the Leeward Islands), on the 28th Feb. The former brings information that the ex-tutor of the young Emperor, at Rio, was on board a frigate, until the vessel in which he took his passage sailed from that port. All was tranquil at Rio Janeiro. By the mail from Jamaica, papers have been received at the North aid South American Coffee house to the 1 Ith of February: they contain letters of im portance. Files of St. Jago tie Cuba papers were received there to the 3d of February. Don Jose de la Hera, the Go vernor, had issued a Proclamation, urging the military and inhabitants to be faithful to the Queen of Spain. His Majesty's steamer Rhadamenthus arrived there from Carthagena in three days. All appeared quiet in the Island of Jamaica when the packet left. At present we do not hear of any news of importance by the Leeward Islands mail. Buenos Ayres papers have also been received at the North and South American Coffee-house, to the 21st December. (From the British Packet.) We have little to offer to our readers in the shape of domes.. tic intelligence this week; even the official documents become scarce, but the country enjoys tranquillity. FINANCE DEPARTMENT. The Government, considering that the prohibition to export bullion is now devoid of any reasonable object, has ordered and decreed— Art. 1. The regulations relative to gold and silver, which existed before the prohibition, are restored to their full force and rigour. Art. 2. The exportation of bullion, the formalities and re. quisites prescribed by the decree of the 15th of July last, re specting the exportation of coined gold and silver shall be ob. served. By the French mail, this morning, the Memorial des Pyre nees states that the corps artnie of observation, on the Pyre nees, becomes daily more threatening, owing to the civil war in Spain raging with more fury than ever. Bands of Carlists have appeared in Catalogna, but according to the last letters from Barcelona, they were hard pressed by General Breton. There was a Carlist movement at Leyria, which was soon sup.. pressed. Letters are in town from Oporto of the 15th inst., but they do not contain any news, therefore we presume that the con tending armies are in the same positions as on the previous accounts. We understand that a loan has been contracted for at Rio Janeiro by the Government for about 40,0001. at 52i ; stock, 55i. The express from Paris this morning has rather a gloomy appearance for the cause of the Queen of Portugal. It appears that Vittoria has been taken by surprise by 6,000 Carlists, who made a number of prisoners, and put them to death. This is a terrible warfare, as no quarter will be given on either side. It also appears that the Cortes Bonds will not be recognized so soon as was anticipated by our speculators ; in consequence of which, Spanish Bonds receded this morning about 1 per cent. : they were done at 31 ; at present they are 31 / . Portuguese also lower-6.1 65. Report says that a Spanish force will immediately march to the assistance of Don Pedro, and drive Don Carlos out of Por tugal. o Consols, whi c h lett off yesterday at 91 i £ for the Account, pened at tug to i. Consols at pr esent are 91 4 HA LF.PAST ONE. % for the Account. Spanish, 313 t ; Portuguese, 65 % 74 • HREE Consols for the A ccount, 111 T I. O'CLOCK. CLOSING PRICES.- - FOUR O'CLOCK. Bank Stock !India Stock 3 per Cent. Red — Ditto Bonds... . . ...... ...• 30 pm 911 South Sea Stock . lo'2f 3 pet Caw. Cons Ditto old Ann.., af t per Crnt. Cent. 991 Ditto New Ann...... 891 31 per Cf nL R 981 Ex. Bills, 10. Vt... ....... 53 pm. D!..9 5ui.......... 53 pm Ditto Small . 54 m , Long Ann. to expire Bank S. for Ace. ...... 2 ....... • 1 43 . j a ,, 1860 Cent. _ Console for Opg.. ........ 911 17 3-16 India St. for Opg. — 4 N p e :ei: t t. 3l 1 c s i f Jac, 1860 FOREIGN FUNDS. Austrian, 5 per cent 9i Portuguese, 5 per cent... 651 Belgian, 5 per cent 991 • Ditto, Reg. Bonds .... ..... 651 Brazilian Bonds Buenos Ayres, 6 per cent. 25 Rus sian Bonds,s p er cent poi Chilian. 6 per cen , .... ...... 25! Ditto, Metallic 104 Columbian, 6 per cent 2si Spanish, siper cent 3ll Ditto, 1824 25 Ditto, 1323 ail Danish - 75 French 5 per Cent.... —1 —c Greek, 5 per cent 2B Exchange 2sf 30c. Mexican 5 per Cents, 1825 3. French 3 per Cent 7Bf. —c. Ditto 6 per Cent., 1825 3B-1 Dutch, 2f per cent. 5O Peruvian 6 per Cent 24 Ditto, 5 per cent 971 AN IRISH RAINBOW.—A Carlist chief in Guiposcoa, in a proclauwion in which he calls on the Spaniards to take up arms, and rush into a civil war in supp , irt of Dun Carlos, sir "peace and justice are the rainbow which precede him." j IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT, THIS DAY, WEDNESDAY, MARC!, 26. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the choir at twenty minutes past twelve o'clock. BRIGHTON WATER_WORKS BILL. On the motion of Mr. WIGNEY, the Brighton Weer works Biil was read a second time. Mr. H. HUGHES moved the second reading of the Foley or Friars Bridge Bill. The hon. member then pre• 'tent e d a petition from certain prnpri-tors (f the Biirotigt. Wa'et-works against the South London Water-Toll:A B IL—Referred to the cnmmiwe on the bill. GREAT WESTERN RAILWAY. Mr. RAMSBOTTOM presented n pe , ition from the mayor, corpt , ration, and ,principal inhabitants of New• Windsor, aga'nst the proposed line of the Great Western Railway, and praying that the line be altered to as to go ihrough that borough. Sir J. B. PECHELL presented a similar petition from the same place. _ _ Bnh the petitions were referred to the Committee on the Bill. CARMARTHENSIIIRE RAILWAY BILL. Mr. VIVIAN brought in a bill to enable the Carmar thene&eßailwayCompany to raise a farther scum of money, which was read a first time. On the motion of the qame hon. member, the Motirsouth Market Bill was read J.:tee:mil time. Mr. JAMES OSWALD presented a petition from the Monckton and Kirkintulloch Railway Company against ;lie Dumbarton Ro-idi Rill. Dr. LUSHINGTON presented a petition from the Commissioners of the Ratcliff Pavement against the bill to widen and improve Upper East Smithfield. Lord LUMLEY presented a petition from William Woods, E.q , against the Newcastle Water Works Bill. Mr. MORRISON brought up the report on the Til bury (Wilts) Enclosure Bill, which was ordered to be recommitted. POLISII EXILES. Mr. BUCKINGHAM gave notice that on Thursday, the 24'h of April, he would move that an humble addre:l4 be presented to the crown, praying that his Majesty would griteous , y pleased to extend his Royal bounty to the Polish exiles, now suffering under great privations in this country, and to pledge the house to make good such sum as his Majesty may be graciously pleased to appropiiate to their relief. CAMBRIDGE PETITION.-ADJOURNED DE- BATE. The debate upon this petition was then resumed. Colonel WILLIAMS said that as this petition was in fact a consequence of a communication or correspondence he had with the University of Cambridge, he might lie expected to take some part in the present discussion. A., however, he had a motion upon this same subject, :is it had been thought advisable that this motion should be postponed till the 17ili of April, and as the hon. member for Lancashire had allowed his (ColonelWilliams's) motion to take precedence on that day, he would reserve any observations he had to make on the subject till he brought forward his motion. Sir ROBERT H. INGLIS said that the right hon. secretary for the colonies had prefaced his oh servations yesterday with an apology for speaking on this subject inasmuch as the petition was from Cain. bridge, and he (Mr. Stanley) came from Oxford, and secondly as the subject matter of the discussion was with reference to a petition. It any apology was deemed ne cessay on the part of his right hon. friend the Secretary for the Colonies, it was doubly necessary on his (Sir R. Inglis's) part, inasmuch as he had the honour of representing the University of Oxford, and inas much as if any hon. memil►er bad a right to speak on the presentation of a petition, the right hon. secret try would have a much better right than be (Sir R Inglis) had. He thought, however, as stated by the right hon. gentleman, that as the subject ened in the petition was one of a general and imperious character, it would nut be unbecoming in him to take part in the discussion. The practi-e, moreover, was sanctioned by the concur rent con uct of both sides of the house. He was per fectly aware of the inconvenience of discussing a gene's! question upon the mere presentation of a petition, as no legislative result could possibly arise Irmo it, for after two or three days protracted, and per haps irritated discussion, and after an exhibition of talent from hon. membi re, the house most come to the sitnple conclusion that nothing could be done in resi.ect to .the subject matter, brat merely that the complaint itself should lay upon the table. This was truly verifying the line— " Non fumum ex fulgore sed ex fumo dare lucem ;" as nothing could be more inconsistent with the object of vitious than to employ the time of the house, which was more fitly the time of the public than of intlividu ils, in iiiscussing measures which must end in a simple affir mation tending to no practical result.—(Hear, hear.) His right hon. friend had said that he was not prepared .o come to a decision, and therefore lie thought it desirable that this discussion, which had already tasted two and would probably continue to site close of this sitting. should be carri,d on, in order to prep ire the public mind, and the minds of some bon. weathers perk ups, against the time when the matter would lie more fully brought bef,re the house by the right hon. and gallant member (Col. Willia , t,s). Many of the remarks which had been ma 'e in the course of the debate, however, applied very little to the general claims of the dissenters, and were merely intended by the right hon. Secretary of the Co. lorries, as— "Straws Thrown up to see which way the wind would blow." He deprecated the prolongation of a discussion upon a petition, but at the same time be might safely ask pardon of the house for following the example of other hon. mem bers. If, in the legal phrase, he should he confined to the four corners of the petition, he should not be able to do justice to that great body which he had the honour to represent. Though their interests had not been attacked in direct terms by the petitioners, he could not help saying that it was paltry in them not to admit that the dissenters would not be satisfied with the parti- cular conc.ssions named in the petition. There was a great fallacy in the use of the term national establishments as applied to universities. He asked what was meant by the term national establishments? Was it meant in the same sense as the national debt? Was it meant to be implied that the universities were endowed by the nation for the general good ?—(Cries of " Yes " from Mr. O'Connell and other members.)• He was not to be tempted from his line of argument by that cheer. In what sense could the universities be considered as national establishments ? Did the nation endow them ? Did the mere donation of 401. a-ye rr to a professor in each of the Universities authorize the dissenters to claim admission? If not, be did not understand why they urged their admission. The college of Maynooth, in Ireland, was a more national institution than either the c ges of Cambridge or Oxford. One thousand end ten pounds were given annually to the college of St. Andrew's, 1.397/. to Aberdeen, 560/. to Glasgow, 1,8901. to Edin burgh, while Oxford had but 2001., which was but the 7th of what was granted to the academy of B-lfast, which enjoyed an endowment of one thousand five hundred pounds. The payments that were made to those col leges (Cambridge and Oxford) were payments of right. Lands were settled on them in the reign of Henry VIII., and it was found more convenient to the Crown to give the equivalent in money than to make payment by crown rents. Why was it that the internal discipline of those colleges should be interfered with ? Was it for the paltry sum of 401. a_year_a mere pittance to professors. The situation of regime professor was one which always at tached more celebrity to the person holding it than it brought emolument. The selection of the individual to fill that professorship was always creditable to his 11.1,,j-sty. But, for twenty times the sum granted to those colleges, they weuld not have their discipline interfered with by par liament. He (Sir R. I.), on looking over the petition from the dissenters, perceived that they alleged all the colleges of the University were national, except one or two. Now if by that it was conveyed that those colleges had been founded by them or their forefathers, they were under a very great mistake as regarded history. The bon. member for Boston whom he (Sir R. Inglis) regretted to of char 4‘Hvc see absent, could not certainly grant the validity of the Nlrll dissenters' claims on those surreptitious pretences. Toe real qu:stion was, what were the disc nters entitled to demand, and government prepared to give?—(Hear, hear.) The house was not aware exactly of what the dissenters demanded, or what the government would grant. The disserv ers required admission into the Universities, which, op i t : ily y aw t t al ni e ii g g : l4 - } d tt , ,i e ,ie ra n joy e d a monopoly of education. He (Sir R . . I °o9 had read a very able article in the Standard universities i t t ilevsas enjoyed a N t va ' s ‘ t a lie m o o n n l o y p m ol o y n ii l h :l nodif, L y. t nlogont:l t , h ,egn e r :i d ana i b, s n, : ad e : n rcit : des e rving institutions the institutions at H o x • on h a e degrees charac t er been acquired bestowed as high by t bha yesthat ' universities these institutions will be of as much value as those bestowed by the universities. But could it be said that the same titular distinctions could be bestowed ba the dissenting institutions as by the universiies ? If not, then he (Sir R. Pl. I.) contended, that giving permission to the dissenters to bestow the same titular diatinctiocs, could confer upon them all they require& Nothing pre• v e nted the dissenting academwe from bestowing the, •istinctiens at present, in his (Sir R. H. I.'s) opinion. elways excepting these which the King by his charter, tit the le ti»lattee by its acts, hail the power of bestowing. Let the dissenters create degrees equal to the M.A. an 11 A. of the colleges, anti then they would have obtainer' they desired. But they could not pass off their money in the country as current; but le them mike it of the same value as the stun late noney and then it would pass cu. rent. The cheer of the hon. and learned member for Dublin when he (Sir R. H. I.) had stated that the Universities were not founded en rulowed by the ancestors of the Diss nters, was such as -nabled him (Sir R. H. 1.) to meet the hon. and learned nember, even with respect to,the opposite view be low t,ken of the matter, viz., that the Universities which 'lad been founded were founded by these whe were not nembers of the church as by law established. That he understood to be the object of the hhon. and 1. erne(' member's cheer. There was hardly any more populist error than that on which the hon. and learned member's cheer was founded, namely, that they were monastic eidies, and founded in Roman Catholic times by person• emitting the same religious opinions as the hon. and learner member for Dublin. It was very true, that of the 18 houses of the University of Oxford, 12 had been found-, before the reformation, and only six since. or the 5,274 names in the books of all the colleges of Oxford, there ,sere 3,045 belonging to colleges founded before the re• formation, and 2,229 to those founded after the reforina tian.—(Heir, hear.) lie would next take the fellow ships, and he found that there were 287 founded by Roman Catholics, and but 30 by Protestants before the Ref - urination, while there were 261 founded solely by Protestants after the Reformation. Even of those which were founded in Raman Catholic times, not one of them was founded by individuals who held the particular doe trines that now governed the church of Rome, and therefore, those persons in the thirteenth or fourteenth centuries might be fairly supposed to have levied towards the principles of the reformers of the church ; there was no evidence that those individuals would no. have adopted the principles of the Reformation if they t,tad lived. Having gone into the fellowships, and the eel eges, and their endowments, he would look at the ei dewments, and with the exception of the Likely Margaret professorship, all the professorships in all the colleges of Oxford were founded by Protestants in Protestant times. Se much for the right of the Church of Rome to claim admission into the universities on the greund that the professorships were lauded by their ancestors.—(Hear, hear.) Now as to the lands belonging to those establishments. From inquiries he had made, and on another occasion he could prove in detail the truth of his information, he found that a Cambridge (which he took for his argutnent, because the petition came from thence) net one-fourth of the property now belonging to that establishment belonged tii it in right of any Roman Catholic benefaction. Of St. John's College nine-tenths were Protestants—of Clare Hall two thirds, and of Magdalen 19.20tlis•—(Hear, hear.) Now, as all dissenters . sought admission on genera , grounds it was clear from the above statement that the Roman Catholics had no claim. The lion. and learne member for Dublin, as well as other members, had teen tended th it as the legislature had interfered once it bait e right to interfere again ; htit he put it on the score o common honour and honesty, whether that would he the principle adopte I by any member in private life—whether having made a gift to a particular individual he would cell for it back again, because cf its having been a gift. Hon. members might say, if they pleased, that the Oft had been abused, and then tie could understand the principle of which the legislature might he e died upon to review its former decision. But it was not even alleged by any one that the two Universities had ~hosed the trust confided to them. and therehire he hoped that the house would nor interfere and withdraw the gift.—(lleac, hear, hear.) These institutions were founded previous to dissent ; the founders never contemplaied the admission of persons holding opinions dissenting from the est &ensiled church, for in no instance whatever were the universities uncon Elected with the established religion of the country. He would s-oe, in answer to the observations of a right hem. gentleman 01) the first day of the session, that 1616, in James the First's reign, was not the first time when the imposition of subscription was required on the part of those who were admitted to the universities. With respect to Oxford, he knew this, that articles ot subscription had been in use there since 1581, for at that time there was catechetical examination connected with the discipline o: the church of England. He was justified, therefore, in stating, that as at the beginning no form was necessary to exclude persons who were Dissenters—for as there were nti Dissenters, there was no necessity for guarding against their admission —so, when Dissenters were admitt d—for they were not admitted before the time of the reformation, as the blood of martyrs could sp ak—but since that time the Universiti• a were made the guardians of time religion of the country, and no one was per. itted to share the benefit of those institutione,who did not by either subscription or conduce, give some security that he war a member of the church to whose service the universities were consecrated. With respect to the mode in which the articles were subscribed at Oxford, he heard nom a gentleman who was in time habit of attending young men on their entrance at Oxford, that out ot 400 young men whom he bad attetided, there was not one who did not feel the responsibility be was taking upon himself in subscribing those articles.—(Hear, hear.) No individual could obtain a degree without passing a severe examinition.—(Hear.) The hon. member was not present who spoke of the students being at wine ptrties, or he would characterise his remarks; but he would say, the hours were so limited, and the regulations so good, as to render such practices impossible. No body of young men were a greater blessing to their country than these. The whole question of dissent would be raised by consent to the petition ; a dis senter was not an independent only, but the term dissen ters would include every class of persons differing from the church, not excepting Roman Catholics themselves. If the hon. member for Boston and time house thought the dissenters would be satisfied with the matters mentioned in the petition, they had a much lower estimate of the claims of dissenters than that body i'self. It was not a question with him whether dissenters or Roman catholics founded the colleges: the present possession was held by law, and a possession of 600 years, without any abuse b e ing pro ve d, ought not to be disturbed. lie had read a pamphlet, by Mr. Suett, in which it was ettted that the universities were mete localities, and therefore they could not be con sidered as national esoniliehments. This house was not the place for education.—(Laughter.) To interfere with the universities would lie to risk the safety of education, and the maintenance of christiinity in the country. He begged pardon for detaining the house so long, and ex• pressed his earnest hope that this question would receive the deliberate attention which, it deserved. Mr. O'CONNELL did not require the apology that he might derive from the distinct allusions of the hon. baronet to himself to rise to speak on that question. It was one which involved the cause of religion and the civil rights of all classes of Christians. It was one which re lated to freedom of conscience, and had the beneficial ten dency to disconnect the exercise of a spirittial feeling from the influence of temporal advantages.—(Hear.) It was a stwb?ouuaretne' lnitivtllie'itsna:ssontdttlhiehe;)ena(nii:ecii question upon which all members of that house should ex press themselves, and if he (Mr. O'Connell) bad no better motive for rising than to disclaim any intention of discourtesy towards the hon. liaronet, it was sufficient. There was nut a gentleman in that house whom he re eve, see' more for his invariably good deportment, and the praise should stop there.—(A laugh.) The hon. perfect candour with which he expressed his opinions. was unsound—his politics were net more ° is h' e g x Y clusiveness of principle—ee (Mr. O'C.) ' hut t u r w t ez i s d enoughin n o call y it bigotry,other place— was whit he considered worst of all. It was such as he s hould hate ex: eeted to have found locked up in the (Air of Salamanca during the days of the inquisition; it was bad there, or here, or any where; and he did not think it improved, though delivered so chaunt ingly by the hon. baronet himself'. It aimed at the legislative power over property. The hon. baronet argued, that what was granted as a gift by government to a public body, bore a parael to a private gift to an indi. vidual; certainly a gilt to an individual could not be retracted ; but what analogy was there between such, and the transfer of property which was made from a Roman Catholic to a Protestant establishment ? There was no com parison whatever between the two cases. He (Mr. O'C.) should proceed to notice an objection brought by the honourable member (Mr. Cobbett) next him. Whatever came from him bore the mark of common sense, and was entitled to the highest respect. He argued, because Protestants were more wealthy than Dissenters, that therefore the concession of the dissenters' claims would be no advantage to them, because their poverty excluded them Com enjoying the benefits ot education. Yet the injustice was still the same; because, in the event of the dissenters becoming rich, they were debarred from the advantages of opulence, while the rich pro testant was in full possession of all privileges. Again, if a poor dissenter by industry accumulated wealth, and a poor protestant did the same, the latter would meet the rewards of that industry, while the former was excluded from them, because of a legislative enactment.—(Hear, hear.) Also he (Mr. O'C.) should ask, was not injustice at present done to the rich dissenters, and was not an injustice to a rich man as censurable as that done to a poor man ; so that on every ground the hon. member's objec tion was invalidated. The hon. baronet (Sir R. H. Inglis) in- Bulged in arguments of quantity, without stifaciently adhefing tp arguments of principle. He spoke of Vie property accumu lated by the colleges of Oxford and Canfiridge since the time of the reformation. What did th, .t ? The inference would be immediately drated when ii was known that in Ca tholic times Cambridge university had 14 colleges,and since it then had but three , Oxford, durinii C itholic times, had twelve dollegee, and non' it had but six. The question was one entirely of principle. knovitiedga . ts'asi: a &Rod thing in itself, because it led to the discovery of truth, and consequently to the establishment of principle ; but separate knowledge from ;trinciple,•add what wOuld be the result ? Why, it was know. ledge without • prindiple that burned the Lo:irds • in the reign of Henry the Eighth, and burned ben Catholics sod Protestants during subsequent relgns.. - --(Hear, hear.) Principle, without knowledge, had ever been the great scourge .f the human race, and he was sorry to see that it had partisans md apostles even from among the elected of those Universities. ['here was no instande in Vshieh the temporal interests of the 'stablishment did not influence the eorldisct of the clergy edu ' _sited at these Universitiei. They had preached tip the doe. ',rine of passive obedience and non-resistance, and continued Cosies iii every Change and phasis of government; dawn to the iassing of the Reform Bill—and noW they opposed the admis aon of the Dissenters to the Universities, as if they had some thing as powerful as the Inqiiisition at their backs. The hon. coronet, when he had discussed the question of quantity, had introduced his rellgiona opirlidns ; and Said he would uirder take to prove that the Wickhams and other rofintltirs of the aniversities, were riot the Roman Catholics of those, but he .vould meet him upon that point. He would ask him, were not the protestants of the established church of the present lay placed in this dilemma. They eantended fur the right of deciding for themselves, but the moment any other professing protestant attempted to decide for himself, they turned round aim and called him by some nick-name of dissenter, add de nied to him his proper name of protestant.— (Laughter.) He would ask the hon. baronet whether that Bishop Wickham lid not say mass every Sunday and every week day ; at his •hapel at Winchester ?—(Hear, and a laugh.) He would ask him did he not believe in the invocation of saints and the doctrine of purgatory? and if Bishop Wickham believed ill those things, he would make the hon. baronet a present of the title of protestant.—(Laughter, in which the hon. and learned gentleman himself joined.) It was evident that these institutions were founded on private endowments from grants made by private individuals, and for private purposes, viz., for offering prayers fir the sou's of the faithful departed; but all :hose private intentions for the disposal of private property had • been overruled by the legislature.—(Hear, hear.) He (Mr. O'Connell) acquiesced in that arrangement. It was property which had been given for a great public trust, and al though he differed from those by whom that alteration was effected, he had not only submitted to it, but he had enforced that submission against others. He contended that the nation had a right to dispose of that property—there was no statute of limitations, and if the Parliament, as the hon. baronet would insinuate, had not the power, then it was a robbery, and he called on the hon. and conscientious baronet to make resti. tution.—(Much laughter.) The hon. baronet had then taken an excursion to Ireland. The college of Maynooth, he said, was entirely supported by the annual grant. He was quite sure that the honourable baronet thought the case was so; for he knew that he was incapable of making any assertion but one in which he believed—(Herr, hear)—but in that he was mistaken. The college, by law, was prohibited from pos sessing property to the amount of more than 1,000/. a-year, but to that sum they were entitled ; therefore, it was quite plain that only a part of the college was supported by that annual grant—(Hear, hear.) That college had flourished in spite of the severe times of the penal laws—in those times two acts had been passed in Ireland, one prohibiting Catholics from being educated at Maynooth under pain of transportation, the other forbidding them to go out of the country, in order to obtain education, under pain of pre. munire, total loss of goods and propeity. Now what was the effect of those laws ? Why, that Catholic families sent over their property to the continent, where their sons were allowed to receive the great blessing of education without fear. Esen in his own person, in the University of Paris, he was entitled to 35 exhibitions, which were worth more than 10001. There were many Catholic families in the same situation, and if Governmsnt at the convention of 1814 and 1815 had taken as much care to have had a restitution of the ecclesiastical property belonging to subjects of this realm, as they had done of other kinds, they would now have had more than the Parliament had ever voted towards the support of Maynooth. Then there was the uni versity of Dublin, which was an exclusively Protestant establish. ment as it now stood, it was also a national institution as well as Maynooth. In the reign of Henry VIII. the Franciscan friars. who inhabited it were turned out, and the revenues with which it was endowed, amounting to upwards of 60,0001., devoted to Protestantism, yet in that University, Catholics were enabled to take degrees—(Hear)—and had the result proved advanta geous to the University, or rather had it not proved most bene ficial to it, in every sense of the word ?—(Cheers)—and not only to itself, but also to the country generally. By the act of 1792, a Catholic might till the medical chair in that University, and it was clear that it also intended that Catholics should be eligible to scholarships, but after two or three had been admitted, the Fellows had thought it necessary to require the oath of supre macy to be taken, which again excluded them, but it was clear that that was according to the practice, and not according to the law. It was for the benefit of the county; his sons had met in that place in fellowship with the sons of those men who were most opposed to to him--(Cheers) —and there they formed private friendships, which might put an end to feuds that otherwise might have disturbed the country.—(Cheers.) Besides another arg"ment that ought to weigh touch with the hon. baronet was, that it was the fact that many had been won to the Protestant religion from their attendance in that college.—(Hear.) That was. therefore, a precedent of the highest class and of the first order, putting an end to all that was said of the great mis. chief which would accrue to the church, if the dissenters wee allowed to take degrees at the Universities. One such fact was worth a million of prophecies—he had proved that the ex periment had been made, and that it had been trium. phantly successful.—(Hear, hear.) the petition from Cam bridge hail been ushered in with great talent by a member of the government, and supported by many members, as being a very important petition, emanating as it did from such a quarter. But he could not assent to all the praise which had been bestowed on it ; he thought it a miserable and stingy pe. tition, and that instead of its being cre.litable to the Univer. city, it was highly discreditable. It appeared that there were 17 heads of colleges, only two of whom signed it, 25 professors and only 11 sigued it, and 74 tutors only 10 signed it. Alas! for those who did not sign it.—(Hear, hear, and a laugh.) What was that at the present day? Salamanca was nothing to it.— (A laugh.) It seems that they allowed the dissenters to be at the university as long as there was any money to receive —(A laugh)--and then turned them out with a mark that went to degrade them below their protestant fellow-subjects.—(Hear, hear, hear.) In the name of the great principles of conscience why did they not sign it ? In his opinion they were degraded for not having done so.—(Hear, hear.) He meant nothing offensive to them—they were most learned men, and " most potent, grave, and reverend seignors." Yet, with all the praise and congratulation that had been bestowed on the colleges, only a very few had signed it, and they were lauded as the best, wisest, and gravest supporters of freedom of conscience; yes, they were—for themselves, but woe to those who were of a different opinion. But where was Oxford all this time ? Oxford was left completely in the dark, for they refused altogether to enlighten the dissenters.—(Hear.) Hon. members might say that they were supporting the este blished church, but had an established church continued long in any country where the opinions of the educated and en ' lightened middling class has been attempted to be destroyed ? No established church continued long, unless it possessed the sympathy and affections of the people.—(Hear, hear.) He asked, were they the friends of the established church, who left even him (Mr. O'Connell) to expose them, as it was in his power to do, by a statement of facts.—(Hear, hear.) If the Catholic church had continued to mix up political feel ings with its religion, and had enlisted the principles of per secution—so alien to Christianity, and so alien to every Ch►istian church—lf it had continued to do so, the banners of the Protestant church would long since have flourished over her, and if she had existed by temporal means, it was b cause the most sincere of her children were the most convinced of the right of every human being to worship his God according to the dictates of his own conscience. He was afraid he had trespassed too long upon the house. He thanked them for the favorable hearing they had given him. He meant no dispa. ragement to the hon. baronet, the member for the university of Oxford, but, on the part of the dissenters of this country, and for a moment he would consent to be called a dissenter—he would not object to be so called, recollecting what a noble set of men the dissenters were—what learning was amongst them, what talent, what principles, and, above all, what Aertion for civ.l and religious liberty, only therefore declining to subscribe himself a dissenter, however much he must respect the name, he would not object to be called a dissenter for one moment, whilst he, on their behalf, asserted that religion was an affair between man and his Creator.—(Cheers.) That God alone who saw into the human heart could know who was sincere, and it was a violation of what he thought the pre rogative of the Lord, and the rights of man, to interfere by force, fraud, or temptation, between man and his God.—(The hon. and learned member sat down amidst loud cheers.) Mr. SHA W said he had but one single observation to make on the subject. He agreed with the hon. and learned member for Dublin, that the admission of Dissenters into the Uni versity of Dubin had hem productive of great good.— (Cheers.) He approved of the principle as applicable to Dub lin, and he would be glad if it applied to the English universities ; but he did not think that it could apply. There was a material difference between the Universities of the two countries. In the English Universities residence was necessary, but in Dublin residence was not necessary, as the term might be kept at the examinations which were held for that purpose. In the English Universities degrees could not be conferred on non-residents, the contrary was the case in Dublin. There were about 300 non-resident members of the Dublin University who attended the lectures but wereunder the guardianship of their friends, so that the question of academical discipline in reference to religious principles did not apply. The terms " College" and "University"of Dublin were vaunt mous, and it was not necessary to alter the constitution of the university to admit dissenters, but only to change the practice; its principles and constitution being quite compatible with the admission of all classes of students. He could wish that the principles would be applied to the English Universities. The Roman Catholics, however, were not satisfied, for they no% asked to be admitted to fellowships and professorships, enc. there was a notice to that effect upon the books, he believed, at this very moment. The hon. member for Boston had boldly dill tt, the frsseilters wanted absolute liberty . . . d finition, in his opinion, required to be defined. 1. clv that Lard PALMERSTON would not trespass but a few minutest upon the time of the house, but having had the honour of re.- presenting the university of Cambridge for a considerable pe r!-;(1, he was desirous cf taking the present opportunity of expressing his eelig!it at the petition which !rut been presented to that house.—(Hear, hear, hear.) Although his political connection with the university had c oased, it was impossible but that he should be deeply sensible of every thing that regarded its honour and interest, and he thought that the petition redounded greatly to the honour of that university, as a compliance with its prayer would, he was satisfied, contribute to its interests.—(Hear.) die saw among the signatures to the petition those of many :istinguished individuals who had honoured him with their .rivate friendship, and political support. Some weight had .cen laid on the fact, that it had been only siened by a minority .f resident Members, and that it did not bear signatures of any on.resident members, With respect to the latter argument, it had been signed by non-resident members, he thought that objection Might be fairly taken, that persons who were .lot conversant with the discipline or government of the university had petitioned for that which would be injurious to its interests.—(Hear, hear.) Undoubtedly the somber who lied signed that petition was numerically small; out if the house took Into account not only their numbers, but their attainments in science And natural talents, he would say, if these members were allowed to multi p l y their votes by the treasures of lifCrAture they had stored up (as the members of another assembly were entitled to multiply their votes by their riches)--if that were to be the Case, the petitioners would re. present the great majority of the intellect and talent of the uni versity.—(Hear.) He (Lori Palmer ton) did rot wish to db. parage the character of the several very eminent men who-c names were net attached to that petition. The objections to its prayer appeared to be of two kinds, first, that the dissenters en joyed all the advatiteges of education in the University already, and seetand, that if theprayer of the petition was adopted it would be fatal to the interests and character of the University by deprive • ing it of its claim to disp,rsing a sound religious education. With regard to the first election he (Lord P.) desired t h at the Dissenters could partake of all those honour, the hope of which was the greatest stimulus to the exertions of young men in their academical career.—(Hein) It was said that the mere effect of attaching the letters M..`' or B. A. to their names was of too trifling a . nature to be mat.. ." the grave st 7 matter of complaint. Suppose th es e titl es were nothil. but empty honours, still he (Lord P.) maintained that as hon ura and titles were matters of local and conventional valne f much depended upon the labours with which these honours were obtained ; and he would venture to say, that any young man of genius and talent, who had toiled through the labours of academical study (and few hon. members were aware of the vast labour), not one worth any thing, and who had undergone these toils, and who had succeeded in crowning himself with academic laurels—no man of that class would listen to those who would tell him that those titles were empty. It must tie galling to the heart of any honest man to find hifizs'elf de prived of these honours merely on account of conscienee— because he had adopted the creed of his fathers, and becaus.' at an age when such matters have not been well considered. he had declined to subscribe his name to articles which, as an hon. baronet had justly said, comprised some of the most im portant relations of life. Was there no grievance in that ? They all knew that with respect to the learned professions, physic and law, those degrees were most essential to the future advancement and prospects of young men. He (Lord Palmerston) remembered having heard some observe. tions upon the importance of those degrees, made in Trinity College, Cambridge, by the late Lord Erskine, who, with that talent for which he was so remarkable, was x_ plaining how he ascribed all his professional success to having taken out degrees in the university of Cambridge.—( Hear, hear.) He stated that being called to the bar early in life, he was about to quit it with disgust—(Hear, hear)--when it was suggested to him that if he went down to Cambridge and took out his degrees there it would bo of essential benefit to him ; he was encouraged to persevere, and to that degree he mainly attributed his success. So far as the dissenters were concerned it was a great griev ance, and so far as the public were concerned it was si still greater grievance. It was impossible to ascertain the amount of talent and genius which this absurd principle had diverted from its proper channel. No man of common sense could defend such a principle. Would it be asserted that a man must subscribe to the thirty-nine articles before he could pre tend to cure one of a fever, or that he could not save one from the grave.digger until he had satisfied him that he was a member of the Established Church ? It was contended that the discipline of the university would be interfered with by the admission of dis senters, and that it would cease to be a seminary for the education of members of the established church. But, it was forgetting that the dissenters at present enjoyed the advantage of education in the university, and therefore did the argument he alluded to fall to the ground. Catholics, dissenters, and even he (Lord Palmerston) knew a member of the Greek church to be admitted to the university : then how was it to be said that the admission of dissenters to a share in degrees would contaminate the morals or principles of the students more than the present system did ?—(Hear.) But it was thought that the compulsory attendance at service morning and evening would be done away with, and what consequence was it if it were done away with. Now was it expedient or necessary that young men shouli rush from their beds to prayers—unwashed, undressed, and half dressed—and in the evening rush from their wine to prayers, and from prayers to wine. Could auy mate. rial change be effected in the constitution of the uni versity ? Now, the senate of the university had no power to make an alteration.—(Hear, hear.) The collegiate uvernment alone had that power. Fellowships could not be gained by Dissenters ; they therefore could not have any share in the college regulations, and no injury could arise from their admission to degrees. His hon. friend (Mr. Goulburn) entertained apprehensions for his son. Now, was not the same risk incurred by any young man under the present system as under that,which would make no essential change in the educa. tion he must necessarily have in the University. The noble had concluded by begging of the house to consider the claims of the petition delberately and fairly. Sir] H. PEEL considered that if civil disabilities were attached to the dissenters, they should be removed. He (Sir Robert Peel) knew that civil disabilities couldnot be conti nued, but the assertion of the dissenters, that they laboured under such, was the most extravagant he could imagine. It was by telling them the issuing the decree from Newmarket, and the character of the King who issued it, that the right lion. gentleman opposite made so much effect on the minds of members, than anything touching the real merits of the case (Hear ) The right hon. gentleman glen said, " oh but leavethc time of James, and go to the happily period of Elizabeth—the period of freedom of conscience.—(A laug'l.) Why, in the first year of Elizabeth a religious test was enforced, which affected Dissenters. The Act of Uniformity was also passed, compelling all persons to resort to the parish church or place of prayer, according to the church of England, and that fixed a test aga.nst dissenters, which was the foundation of the practice of universities. The right hon. gentleman then, in speaking of James, said the Monarch who required a subscription to the three articles, was the author of a work on Demonology; that argument was absurd, and did not bear ; but when a prejudice was created by such topics—(Hear, hear, hear)—it was necessrry to show that they were not worth a farthing. But did not Elizabeth pass acts respecting demonology ? Why, she declared if any person used witchcraft or sorcery, by which persons might be abused, and property destroyed, he or she shall be put in the pillory for six hours, and there shall confess her crime— and, for the second offence the punishment of hanging was attached. But Lord Bacon said it was reported that witches fed on man's flesh, and if they did, man must send forth a vapour to stir up the imagination of the witch. He (Sir R. P.) only showed these things to prove that King James and Lord Bacon, at that period—(Hear, hear, hear)—in com mon with the rest of the people, were under a a belief that witchcraft did then prevail. Now as to what the dissenters actually wanted there had been three days' deLate, and he did not know what it was.—(Hear, hear.) '1 he hon. member for Leeds, in demanding something in the name of the dissenters, said all he demanded was true, equal, and perfectly consistant. Why he (Sir R. Peel) was precisely in the same position.—(Hear and a laugh.) But the hon. member wanted to measure that liberty as he thought fit, reserving to the dis senters the means of afterwards acquiring something more. It was right to know the full extent to which those claims go. The present petition claims that they should be admitted to degrees.—(Hear, hear.) The right hon. the Secretary for the Colonies and the noble lord (Palmerston) say they would a .mit this claim but that they would not go further. Now if they went this length he would ask if they would not be com. polled to go much further still. The very same argu. ment would also apply to a further claim, for would it not be said to open the door to the Dissenters to take de grees, but to shut them out from all offices of honour and emolument ? They were told, when they admitted Dissenters into Parliament, that they must also admit them into office, otherwise they would be arrayed against the monarchy and the Government. (Hear, hear, hear.) Did r ot this same argument apply to the present case ? for he would ask, when they admitted dissenters into the university, and ,!,)ahvaitngprqiunacliiptleetictohuelmd t t o h etaykeexaclsuhdaerethoefmthefrgomoverthntne elleofint othe would corporation c o as t' the e o f u n f i e v r o s w i t 6 y h ? i p — s H o e n ar , w h h a e t a r. entering into orders—what preve n t e d t h em from ps b accepting ) ground e cou ld they exclude dissenters fro m felloWshibefore fellowsbiptl rtlCE—They subscribe the articles. - - Sir R. PEES.—Subscribe the articles—why you are going to relieve them from subscribing the articles.--(Loud cheers.) This first concession would create the necessity for the re mainder. It would be but a partial remedy, and only say "peace, peace" where there was no peace, and give Dissenters an oppor tunity of entertaining the remainder.—(Hear) Should dissenters be excluded from attending the forms of religious .vorship in the University, the religious education of the university wouid be at an end; and if not, the Dissenters would complain of being controlled in matters of consci,nce. --(Hear.) The rules of the house precluded him from itirther remarks, but he felt bound to say that he foresaw the •onsequence of these concessions would be the demand or athets, until the very principle upon which our universities .re:e established was destroyed. _ _ The SPEAKER left the chair at three o'clock, alit the de;;Al c o I!equently stands again adjourned.