The Sun. — London, England, 1825-02-28 00:00:00

'.hat Government was not justified in impeding so heavy a charge 1 on the Nizam's Government, ss that of supporting so large a military establishment as was raised through the advice and direction of the Resident: was it said to have been paid by Palmer and Co. ? Ile declared most distinctly that every ehil ling which had been advanced for the public se rvice of the Nis= had been completely liquidated. The sanction of the British Government was eaual to any gua rantee of payment.— . Ile could not, therefore, see any reason for Palmer awl Co. charging such an extravagant rate of interest. Ile repeated that he had throughout acted in principle as a public se . rvant ; and 'boldly claimed the approbation of the Court for his long and faithful exertions in then service --(Cheers) Mr. WE CUING conceived that the transactions o t f _W i l lie_ m I Palmer :trod Co. with the Niz.am's Governmen yd a chai ling n of connection with the conduct 9f the Marqui as. which iaerfactly ineepaiable. And with regard to t t he, substance of the speech of the late Resident at Hyder atm* (Mr. Russell), he declared the whole to be a palpable fallacy, and perfectly untenable.—( Hear, hear, hear !)—The Cart would keep in view that even he (Mr. Russell) was kept in ignorance of what was going on ; and was it not, therefore, reasonable to suppose that he would use conjecture where he .had no information by which to fill up his account ? Hear, hear 1) He would-defy any man to prove that there was a single rupee due of the sixty lac loan. All, and more than all, that was advanced, had been repaid. He would ask the late Resident himself if he could say that, previous to 1815, the house of Win. Palmer and Co. had not advanced money illegally to the Nisam ? No; and therefore he con. e:dered that the conduct of the Marquis of Hastings was re prehensible in not having inquired into their transactions.— He had not read the opinions of Counsel which had been ob tained on this subject, because he had quite enough on which to form an opinion in the papers before the Court, and the late Resident might as well attempt to lift a mountain as to clear all or any of those concerned in the Hyderabad transactions.— He mould ask if it was proper—if it was to be countenanced, that a political resident was to sanction the transactions of such a house as Palmet and Comp an y with the Nizams Govern ment, when he was receiving at the time 12 per cent. for his money from that house, a higher rate of interest than he-could hive obtained elsewhere ? When Palmer and Com pany applied for a license, the Governor-General, without any inqairy, grants it, with this provision, that they should at all times when required disclose to Government the. nature of their transactions with the Government of the Nizam._ .blameil ,the Resident for applying . for a loan of two lacs to pay the trop I ps, without any stipulation as to inte rest or otherwise. t appears that when these matters came to the knowledge of the Governor-General, lie wrote to know if the arrangement was favourable to the Nizam's government, and if none more favourable could have been made. Mr. fins s_ll, before he answered this leiter, intimated to Palmer and Co. what he meant to say in reply ; that he meant to inform the government that he had granted his sanction to all their mea eures, and consequently that government were bound to sup port the 4rrangement entered iato. Pretty political agent, truly said the lion. Proprietor--(llear, hear t)—When the Accountant-General, in consequence of the reference to hint, made certain inquiries, Sir Wm. Rumbold, on ascertaining the n attire of those inquiries, protested against the House giving copies of their accounts to their co n s tituents—amon g whom he ranked the Nisam—at the same time that he had in his pocket the license which stipulated, that they were at all times to make _ their transactions with native powers known to the Govern• ritent ?—( Hear, hear !)—lly the Governor-General's minute of the 10th of November, 1819, it appears that when Sir William Rumbold was called before the Council, he object ed to submitting the accounts of the House to that Supreme Council, because they must necessarily be transmitted to the Court of Directors, where they would be liable to miscon struction,' from the ignorance of those to whom they would be submitted, of the localities of India —(Hear, hear!)— And yet the Marquis of Hastings admitted the objection, and the Accounts were not called for in consequence. He was sorry the Member for Aberdeen was not present. What would he say to accounts being refused to be produced, b e cause the party who was to produce them, did not think that Court competent judges of their nature ?—(Hear, hear!) — Suppose the Court of Directors were in like manner, to order any of their servants to send home accounts from India, what would he said of his replying, " a fig for your order, I won't send home any accounts, for the best of all possible reasons— that you could not understand them if I did ?"—At the time of the fit/ lac loan, all the houses of agency were advancing money. at 9. and with few exceptions, at 8 per cent. Was it therefore justifiable in the Governor-General to sanction their (W. Pal mer and Co.) receiving 24 per cent. in the first instance, and 184 per cent. afterwards ? He would -say, if the Noble Mar q‘tiss's friends would permit him, that he was kept in the dark ; bat no—and he therefore must declare that he considered that that-the Marquis of Hastings had most unjustifiably kept the Court in ignorance of these transactions. Why, he would ask, unould money be raised at such a sacrifice, to pay the new levies, when two Regiments of the Nizam's troops were regu larly paid by the British Government ? Would it not have been better to have had these levies paid likewise by the Bengal .Crovernment ? .11r. Huss F.LL here interrupted the Hon. Proprietor, and said that he must labour ender a mistake. The two Regiments alluded to had, it was true, been paid out of the Company's treaeury—but the money was first obtained from the Nizam's r:.vetnie. And latterly, to save trouble, was paid directly to the troops, instead of being as formerly handed from the tree aery to the Nizam's minister, and from the minister - to the trooi;s. \lr. WEEDING resumed. He conceived that the Gover nor (Jeneral's statement was at variance with truth, when he that he could not advance the sum required by the Nizani out of the treasury. And as to the sixty lac loan, it appeared to him a palpable attempt of Wm. Palmer and Co. to obtain 13:3 per cent. for money at a time when all other houses were advancing it in Calcutta at 8 and 9 per cent.—that they , were_ sanctioned in this, he conceived a strong proof of the undue partiality shewn to them. The Marquis of Hastings had stated that he could not meddle with the Ni. l:47l's pecuniary matters. Why not? Could he not, he would ask, nave procured money for him on easier terms ? tin such terms as would enable him to repay the debt at a tirae when. he was borrowing for the Bengal Government at •64 per cent.' It was unbecoming of him to leave his ally at - the mercy of a house who were charging him ISij and 24 per cent: for money when he could - have borrowed for him at half • that interest.—( Hear, hear !)—He could not help coming to ele.conclusion that the Governor-General was so far guilty as to render it quite impossible for the Court to adopt the original motion.—(Hear, hear !)—And more—after reading the papers before them, it was impossible to grant one Cowrie more to the :Marquis of Hastings.-,(Hear, boar, and order, order !)—Under all the circumstances, he was only astonished how he had been granted what he already received.—(Order, order, order I) The CRAntmats - maintained that the Honourable Proprietor was in order, as the papers before the. Court touched upon re- • 'lion. D. KINNAIIIn wished to speak to order.—(Great cla sziamr, and the lion. Member sat down:). • • The CHAIRMAN' declared that the lion. Proprietor was not out of order. Mr. WEr.iirso repeated his . astonishment, that the Mar quis had received what he had done.-.(Hear, hear !)—Could Honourable Proprietors, after; all that was read and hear , assert t:fat They approved of the character and conduct of the Mar tinis of Hastings? He considered that they were called upon in the language of the Chairman's amendment, to acquit him of personal corruption, but not of-undue partiality. He could. not rig down without expressing his approbation of a gentleman, whose character had been most,tinjustly villified. lie meant that worthy, faithful, and tried savant of. the Company, Sir charles .Metcalfe.—(Hear, hear !)-..lre habeen accused of in gratitude, but he (Mr. W.)tienied that most strenuousl y . Sup ."p-oss he bad received private favours. from the Marquis of Haat- . inga, (which he was not.disposed to adniit,).waS this, he would air, to infere with his public conduct? -It was moat unjust to expect it. He concluded by again conjuring the members of that Court to abopt the Chairman's amendment. Sir CIIARLES FoasEs--With that guarantee svas there a man in this Court who would envy them what they could have got ? He confessed he had not read the.voluminous hook be fore the Court ; but he had read enough of it to speak to the moderation of those transactions on, the part of Messrs. Palmer and Co. as compared with those of -other-houses. •Jn the year 1793, such was thdifriculty of rasing money experienced by Lord Wellesley ; at the time of the Mysore war, that the Go vernment issued proposals for the loan of 100,080 rupees-upon t .rens which amounted to from 20 to 25 per cent.; and .18,000 rupees were paid into the treasury upon that occasion by his own house, on terms making-thog,ether, 34 per-cent.• for one year (hear !) ; and high as that was, that sum was all they could spare upon those terms. Now which was preferable-34 from the Company, or 24 from the Nizam ? But it -was said that this litSuse had w h a t was equivalent to a guarantee'frorrr the 'Com .pany that being the case, they would have a right to look ter., this Court for conor nsatzon. He' (Si r C. F or b es) h a d no con nexion with any .these parties ; but in a conversation which he had-with Sir W. ILumbold on this subject, to every question tie put to him he received a clear, explicit, an d sat i s f ac t or y ex planation. It was almost impossible for men who had not been in that country to understand the difficulty of raising money - there. He had a letter in his pocket from Calcutta, apprizing him of a loan which had been made at the rate of 12 p er cen t. for three months, with a bonus o f 10 per cent. ; making gether 52 per cent. per annum. lie thought that this was a touch-injured and calumniated establishment, and that the members of it were intitled to restitution at the hands of the Court. He did not sec how Lord Hastings could accomplish ._ the object he had in view for the interests of the Company en ore beneicial terms. After complimenting Mr. Russell upon Ile brilliant and convincing statement, be said he was may to give the directors credit for fair and just intentions, although they had been misled; but he would not be bound to approve of the dispatches referred to in the amendment, for the reasons mentioned in the able dissent of the Hon. Director. Ile would give his consent to nothing that would conclude the claim of these unfortunate gentlemen.; tuit he would be glad if any ad: justment between the resolution and the amendment would be proposed, which he would cordially support ; otherwise, he should vote in favour of the original resolution. Mr. STEWART wished to explain one part of the lion. 13a ronet's speech. He did not say that government had guaran teed the loan. Ile only said that the sanction given by the Supreme government to its ally appeared to him equivalent to a guarantee—(Hear, hear !) Mr. DIXON came quite free into that Court, though he con fessed with a prejudice, from all he heard, against the MarqUis' integrity. The gentlemen who had spoken on the first and se cond, and even third day, had convinced tine of one thing, and that was, that several of them had searched diligently and anxiously for matter of recrimination against the Noble Mar quis.—( Hear !)—They at the same time cleared him from all personal imputation, but accused him of undue partiality to Palmer and Co., for which reason they would votefor the amend ment. The original motion went tolcompliment Lord Hastings, but the amendment, with the sting at its tail, was no cauipli ment. Those gentlemen who were for the amendment, wished to bring in, s. in Scotland—not proven ; but did not seem de .sirous of bringing the Marquis in not guilty. One thing was very plain, gentlemen opposite had come there with speeches got up for the occasion ; but he must be _allowed to say that they smelt too much of the.lamp.(A laugh.)—He had never before heard so much from those gentlemen that was so unsatis factory or inconclusive. Mr. Russell again spoke to perfect ' conviction, from his personal knowledge of all the transactions during his long and faithful services at Hyderabad. What came from him was preferable to any thing that could ha gleaned ' from books, and letters, and papers.—(Hear, hear !) —Before Hon. Proprietors would decide. he entreated them to consider the importance of character. The memory of an humble indi vidual like himself would not be likely to suffer much by any imputation cast upon him, as it would probably go down with himself to the grave ; but to an illustrious public character like the Marquis of Hastings, it would be subject matter of history, and would go down with his name to posterity. —(Hear, bear !) —lf the house of Mr. Palmer and Co. were proved to be ever so guilty, it was necessary to prove that the Marquis of Hast ings was guilty of encouraging and approving of their impro per conduct, before any slur should bs cast on his character. — (Vehement cries of adjourn and question.) Mr. PATTISON hoped that they would permit him on a future day to be heard before 5 o'clock.—(A laugh.) The question of adjournment having been put (on the motion of General Thornton) by the Chairman, on a spew of hands, he adjourned the Court at a quarte r past five, to Monday next, (this day) at 12 o'clock. From the LONDON GAZETTE, Feb. 2 6 . Foreign Office, Feb. 9.6. The King has been graciously pleased to appoint Edward Cromwell Dimbrowe, Esq., late Secretary to his Majesty's Le gation, and Charge d'Affaires in Switzerland, to-be Secretary to his Majesty's Embassy at St. Petersburgh. The Kiv has also been graciously pleased to appoint the Hon. Wm. Henry Fox-Strangaw•ays to be Secretary to.his Ma jesty's Legation at Florence. Lord Chamberlain': Office, Feb. :M. The King has been graciously pleased ,to nominate Alm Nussey, Esq., of St. James's-street, Apothecary in Ordinary to his Majesty's Person, in the room of Richard Walker, Esq., deceased, and the Lord Chamberlain has appointed him ac cordingly. CARMARTHEN SPRING CIRCUIT. Samuel Haywood, Sergeant at Law, and J. Balguy, Esq, J ustices. Cardigan—Wednesday, March 30. Ilaverfordwest-Tuesday, April • Carmarthen—Monday, April'll. BANKRUPTCY' ENLARGED._ William Broadhead, Ashton-under-Line, and George Broad, head, Manchester, stone-masons, from March 12 to March 24 BANKRUPTCIES SUPERSEDED. John Hopwood, Chancery-lane, bill-broker. Claudio Areanzelo, Gloceater.terrace, Bethnal-green, feather merchant. BANKRUPTS. Thomas Owens, Toxteth-park, Lancashire, carter, to surren. der March 28, 29, April 9, at the George Inn, Liverpool.- Solicitor, Mr. Whitehouse, Castle-street, Holborn. Gaetano and Nichol() five, Sheffield, hardwaremen, March 8,9, April 9, at the Commercial Inn, Sheffield. Solicitor, Mr. Capes, Holborn-court, Gray's Inn. Richard Pilkington, Blackburn, Lancashire, timber-mer chant, March-24, 25, April 9, at the lintel. Blackburn. .Soli citors, Messrs. Milne and Parry, Tan held-court, Temple. John Griffiths, Holywell, Flintahire, corn-merchant, March 14, 16, April 9, at the Bull Inn, Denbigh. Solicitor, Mr. Jones, Pump-court, Temple.. Thomas and James Dawson, Meitham, Yorkshire, clothiers, March 7,8, April 9, at the office of Messrs. Whitehead and Robinson, Huddersfield. Solicitors, Messrs. Clarke, Richards, and Medcalf, Chancery-lane. Thomas Stonehame, Little Chelsea, brewer, March 5, 12, April 9,fat the Bankrupts' Court, Basingliall-street. Solicitor, Mr. Cranch, Union-court, Broad-street. Samuel Keene, sen., Long Ditton, Surrey, coal-merchant, March 1,8, April 9, at the Bankrupts' Court, Basingliall street. Solicitor, Mr. Chester, jun., Parsonage-row, New ington-butts. John Perry, Gravesend, confectioner, March 0, •1.5 April 9, at the Bankrupts' Court, Basinghall-street. Solicitors, Messrs. Saunders, /Leawood, and Matthews, Upper Thames street. William Pattinson, Liverpool, merchant, March 4, 25, April 9, at the George Inn; Liverpool. Solicitors, Messrs. Lowe, Southampton-buildings, Chancery-lane. Henry and William Evans, Oxford street, lacemen, March 5, 12, April 9, at the Bankrupts' Court, Basinghall-street. ,Solicitor, Mr. Hurst, Milk-street. .James Erstl John Fuller and John Fletcher, Radcliffe, Lan ,cashire, provision -dealers, March 21, 22, April 9, at the White Bear Inn, Manchester. Solicitors, Messrs.. Hurd and _John son, Temple. Thomas Blunt, Twickenham, Middlesex, 'grocer, March 5, 26, April 9, at the BankrUpts' Court, Basinghall-street. Soli citors, Messrs. Humphreys and Caitto,Tooley-strcet. DIVIDENDS. March 18, D. and J. Glover, Leeds, merchants--March 1, W. Beale and .1. H. Wrathall, Union-street, Southwark, hat •makers-March 23, J. Sykes and J. Hollis ' Manchester, iron end copper-dealers-March 22,W. Simpzon,3lanch ester, linen draper-March 2,5, 31. Morgan, Newport , Mo nmouthshire, shopkeeper-March 23. W. Higgs, Bristol, leather-factor- March 23, B. Wadliarn, Poole, cooper- March 21, .1. Cowell, jun. Torquay, Devonshire, wine-merchant-March 24, J. Tay. .for, Leominster, skinner-March 19, V. Stewart, Mitre-court, Cheapside, merchant-March 22, 11. Gerhardi,Savage-gardens. merchant-3l arch 5, W. Cleghorn, Ratcliffe-highway, cheese. monger-March . 19, 'F. S. Tarling, Leyton, Essex, tailor • March 5, C. C. Beecher, Lothbury, merchant-Marchl9, ,Vincent, St. Margaret's-hill, Southwark, jeweller-March 19, •J. Hurry, Liverpool, ship-chandler-March 23, R. Bradbury, Stone, Staffordshire, dealer-March 19, E. Birks, Sheffield, grocer-March 5, J. Harrison, Padihain, Lancashire, cotton: .spinner. CERTIFICATES, MAnCit 19. G. Ferrer, Mincing-lane, merchant—T. Hoggart, St. John street, West Smithfield, stationer—S. Fletcher, Lawrence-lane, Cheapside, .woollen-factor--LT. Clark, Paradise-street, Bother- - hithe, lighterman—J. Skidmore, Sheffield, scissors-manufac turer—B. Hartley,. Ripon. Yorkshire, mercer—W. Pocock, Layton, Essex, cabinet-maker—J. Seagrim, Jun., Wilton, Wiltshire, carpet-manufacturer—lt. Banks, Paddington-street, Marylebone, tailor—R. Nunn, Queen-street,.Cheapside, ware houseman—J. Ball, Watling-street, straw-hat-manufacturer. PARTNERSHIPS DISSOLVED. -S. Earp -and J. Bailey, Nottingham, bobbin an foal,K. ma kers—S. and E. Cross, New Woodstock, Ohire, . g lovers—W. Wilkes and J. _Sard, Shrewsbury, drapers —J.. E. Baker and Popplewell; Doncaster, sacking-manufacturers —W. amd J. Sidebotham, Apethorn-mills, Cheshire, cotton spinners--J. and W. (graham, Coventry, drapprs-:-.W. Mis. kin and G..Skrimshire, Commercial -place, Kent-road, surgeons —T. Lamb, Swindon, and R: Phillips, Highworth, shire—S. Rogers and G. Lowe, Old Ford, Mand iddlesex Crawley, , .chymi cal-manufactarers--H. Porter, W.. Troby, J. Warwick-lane, Newgate-street, meat-salesmen, so far as re gards H. Porter—J. Clegg and S. Cooke, Manchester, timber. merchants—T. and W. Morley, llancliester, calico-printers, —W. Codgbrook and H. Knighton,,RUshden, Northampton shire, common Barriers —g. Pinilett and J- Bugby, Northamp ton-terrace. City-road, straw-plat-bleachers-J.•. Votlg.and P. Edwards, Winchester, drapers:—W. and J. Wson , Berwicworth upon-Tweed, ironmongers—J. ironmongers—J. He ath and J. Winck, Bath, dentists—J....Nil:las and B. Brown, New Windsor, Berk- . Berk shire, grocers—R. Boyer, Burchall, and G. Woolley, Man.. chester, wholesale druggists—L). Parry anti .l. Britain, Bir mingham, brass-founders—A . . Paris and .I. Harvey, London, and A. M'Causland and T. Harvey, St. Petersburgh—S. lteed, S. Gallilee, W. Agnew, and J. L u nch, Sun Tavern-ticlds, Middlesex, rope-makers, so far as regards W. Agnew-LJ. Thorman, W. Talmadge, and T Thornian, Lawrence Pount ney-hill, wholesale tea-dealers —J• and J. Kirkman, .Little Lever, Lancashire, bleachers. HIDEIIABAD PAPERS. (Nu. V.) Felt THE, SUN_ Sl - 4 I.llrJ no hostility to the East India Company; on the •‘ contrary, fear nothing so much as tl:at do* Government sof " Intha should over be withdrawn from it."—(3lorning Chron.) EuiTott—ln my last letter I gave you, as a motion, an extract from the leading Journal of Europe, (a proud title) the Tina.: newspaper of the 18th of this month: My present letter I preface with an observation from another celebrated Journal, the Morning Chronicle. Here, Mr. Editor, are the sentiments of two of what are generally termed Opposi tion Papers; but whatever their designation may be, assuredly they are the best conducted papers in England. With their politics 1 have nothing to do; every man in this free country has a right to think as he pleases ; and happily our glorious Constitution has granted him the liberty of speaking what he thinks. In observing the talent and the industry of the Editors of the papers just mentioned, we must not forget their well-known independency of character, and the high reputation both papers hare maintained for a series of years. It will be admitted, that i n b ot h these papers we have an acknowledinent of the most direct and positive kind, one journal admitting that the loss of our rule would be to India a calamity, and the other avowing that the British name stands very high. 1 most cordially agree in the sentiments of the Times, and of the Morning Chronicle. Neither of these papers are likely to flatter the East India Company, nor are either of them likely to abet any body of men who have the implied and direct support of the Ministers ; yet neither of these Journals have raised their voice in behalf of the long detailed affair at Hyderabad, nor have they urged the expediency or necessity of complying with the requisition of the Proprietors, who are most anxious to.force the Directors into a vote of thanks to the late Governor-General—(l have personally such a profound respect for that - Nobleman, that 'positively, if I can avoid it, I will not xnention his name.) if the Times and C'hronicle will not espouse the cause of those who are supposed to be injured and ruined, or panegyric,. the Administration of a deservedly eminent and virtuous Noble man, what are we to think of both cases. "Is there not some thing snore than meets the ear ?" - - - - • Before going into the details promised in my last letter, le me put a plain question to the public—Zs it possible that 24 Directors of the East India Company, ato say :nothing of the orders or wishes of the Board of Centroul), would per tinaciously persist in • opposing the proposed motion in favour of the Ex-Goverenr-General ..without they had some strong and irrefragable proof? It is e9ually utAikely and impossible that this large body of 'Directors, composed of men of the highest characer, and many of them Anglo. Indians could collectively have but one opinion on . both sub jects without solid grounds. Personal prejudice must be out of the question, private pique cannot exist among a body of twenty-four eminent men, they are not the common beef-eat ing, porter-drinking, careless and illiterate jurymen.; no, they are enlightened persons known for their probity, a -faithful dis charge of their important duties, and a determination. to protect their regulations (as sanctioned by the Legislature) from covert infraction and open •contempt. How then shall we account tsar the resistance the Court • unanimously make ? If they were vindictive, ortmjustlyprejudiced, assuredly the Board of Controul cannot possibly be influenced by prejudices or hos tility -similar, but would, on the contrary, revise or correct the acts of the Directors, over , whom the wisdom of former Mini sters (Messrs. Pitt and Fox) thought it expedient to hold a con trouling and salutary check; but we have nothing of the kind, the inference is that there is " something behind the curtain," which a false delicacy, a kindness of intention, have prevailed on the Hon. Court to keep out of view. I should as likely think of accusing my Lord Elden of collusive practices with a suitor in the Chancery Court, or my Lord Liverpool of receiv ing a bribe from Prince Metternich, as that of supposing that the Court.of Directors would, from motives of injustice or hos tility, oppose the proposed motion, or without strong political and well-founded reasons, have stopped the proceedings at Hyderabad. Such a supposition is an insult of the worst kind to these Gentlemen, and equally an insult to the mind of any man of common understanding, and whose judgment is unpre judiced, or what is of more importance, not concerned either directly or indirectly with the house of Palmer and Co. It is among these Gentlemen chiefly that we have the vociferations of " Hear, hear !" and applause, while the other and far larger body of the House, the great majority on tho ether side, know ing the cause to be just and uninfluenced by party feeling, or private and personal interest, do not utter a word ; for large and deep rivers run slowly and quietly; it is the little shallow brooks that make the tnost noise, and well they may, for they have a rough and stoney bed to go over, while the river runs in its own deep channel, quietly and usefully pursuing its course. You will hardly think it possible, Mr. Editor, that a man of my research, natural hatred of long speeches (except they are those of-your Cann inge, Broughams, Tierneys, and Robinsons), would go to . hear for rive . hours these Gentlemen talk. Lord, how they did talk, and to how little purpose ! Such, however, is really the fact, and such is my misfortune; it being very hot, and having a right to a scat, I was compelled to stand ; now I will tell you what, to a man who knows political ruarneuvres and party management so well as you do, can be no secret, viz. that there was a great deal of violence of gesture and expression in those who knew their case was hopeless, that they accord. ingly helped up their interests with shouting, and other modes ofself.gratification—while the larger and disinterested body re mained quiet and peaceable, depending more on the justiceof their cause, than in making a noise, rather than approving of each other's echo. Now to finish the matter of the debate, for in that there is more wisdom than in listening to it, I came away very weary and very.disgusted, and almost as wise as when I went. Gale Jones and Mr. Thelwall might have been gratified, but to an old Indian Soldier, who well and truly knew the merits of both eas...a, it was " stale, flat, and unprofitable." At the debate I heard something from Mr. littineofh " trick" played by the Chairman (Mr. Astell, Dl. P.) of his spewing the " cloven foot," &c. This was in bad taste, it was likewise un deserved. The Chairman did no more than move an amend ment (a thing Mr. Ilunie so often, and .so judiciously doe:9,- o, t h a t t he Court should approve of the dispatches under cera tain dates of the Court of Directors." I was very glad to ob *rye a right feeling in the mass of. the Proprietors by the ap plause they bestowed on their Chairman, when he remonstrated against this injudicious and personal attack.. • Mr. Hume, you are deservedly esteemed for your zealous, honest, and most active services, in the Senate of your country ; but pause a moment, lest by an overweening and ill-judged . zeal in friendship for those whose cause you cannot assist, you lose a portion of that celebrity you have so justly attained. I know you, Mr. Hume, and from my heart believe you act conscientiously ; you know me, for you have written to me (when in the country), and I admit the honour conferred ; but, Mr. Hume, I should never for a moment have supposed that the Grand Inquisitor of _Abuses, the known Champion against all jobs—and collusive practices should have stepped forward to advocate:the present business. That you can attempt to vindicate the high charge of inte rest. or defend the bonus obtained by the late house at nyder . abad; is to me a matter of perfect astonishment. Would you tolerate the same thing were it done by his Majesty's Minister at home ? would the measure have met with Your approbation, had the 4'..aamberlain of Lord Amherst (we will suppose him to • haVe been the brother of Mr. Wynn or the son of Mr. Astell), provided on a voyage of profit to a N a ti ve C our t, clothed with the strong and influential character of _the servant anilfriend, nay, relation of the Governor-General of British India, decked out with the acknowledged friendship of the Viceroy, possessing - his confidence, and carrying w ith hi m a ll t h e we iiht(in the eyes of the natives, end according to their ideas of Europeans, no man can be incorrupt,.without his " ear is to be filled,") of an official servant of the State—would you not, .11r. Hume, on improper, i a what you i t would ldhave sai a this occurring, have exerted our talents, and told us, it was appears to me (and I have given it the greatest consideration) unprecedented -it must not be alloweda-thie totally inexplicable. pages of the Oriental Su arguments, or unmeaning conjecturesra g lgv . As Ido not wish, nor have I time, to unnecessarily. fill the zi w'iathmlanwybY You have not said it now, long;-winded to e r p d u e t ateilt f o e r w y questions, numerically and briefly arranged. I should wish the answers-to be as concise as my qu estions- ' 1. Under whose auspi ces were t h e two loans to the Nizam s Government advanced? 2. Was the first Loan sanctioned by the British Government, and was it not afterwards carried into the BG Leith Loan which was guaranteed ? • .. 3. How was the Bonus of 8 Lakhs of Rupees to Messrs. rainier arranged —was the British GovernMent apprized of that . . t t r e i n t 4 n ..t s i l ci t n c o t e i us o l n od , vne o or r t:at d th i ce d the Native Minister, Cliundee bol, inform . the Resident of it? exceeding 9 per cent ? Did not Mr. John Adam and J ../. eatedly sugges ocured t the of rupees that they did not know how to invest or employe and did not these two eminent and old servants reiterate ob jection against the employment of and tile excitedterms- Hyderabad House their , which Mr. Stuart happily designated Pecuniary Monopoly," but to which I s illegal and dangerous by the a added should have the honour of the British e Stuart, Members of the Government, rep tiLt Calcutta l a i t or rather ate 0f 2) interest have and ü b d e been chargesprr _ a innneosdt e necessity and advantage of raising, olio FundswiltiloChaeldcuitiaillbieynas , free competition among the Monied Interests ,: .5. Was..the interests of the Nizam or . consulted by thus pertinaciously adhering to a transaction which rnikett have been avoided ? b. At the time this Loan was arranged at 24 per cent. were' not Messrs. I'ahner lending money to Europeans at 9 per cent ? 7. Did not the Governor-General himself write to the Firm, stating that some doubts existed in the minds of the Members of Government whether or not " Mr. Russel the Resident was _not in some way connected with the house," and further adding' " it depends on the house whether I also must not admit doubts?" 0. Was it not at this period (and not before) that the disclo sUre was made of Mr. Sotheby having been a partner in the Firm? 9. Again, is it not admitted that Mr. Sotheby had no " right to inquire, or in any, shape interfere with the affitirs of the Firm," that he " was admitted out of pure friendship," then why thus situated, should he on quitting it be " presented with a sum of money," which Mr. Sotheby with great candour and honour says, " He had not any rigkt to expect," as he never " inter fered or inquired into affitirs" for what was this sum given ? 10. Is not the situation of political assistant to the British Minister at a Native Court one of great weight, and must not the holder of it possess much influence and power? Colonel Bailie, Major Carnac, and Major Close, who were all Assist: ants before they became Residents can answer this question, Mr. Russel can answer it, for he was formerly an assistant to Colonel Kirkpatrick (I believe). 11. Although the High Legal Authorities have allowed from the complei character of the " Hyderabad Affair," and the distance at which it took place, it would throw insuperable diffi culties in the way of a Jury, by what epithets, and in what language, have those Crown Lawyers designated the transaction from beginning to end 12. If the above " Legal Opinioni" will not carry convic tion to stubborn minds or interested persons, why not get the opinions on both of Mr. Stuart and Mr. Dandesnell (with former Members of the Government), Mr. Buller, Mr. Trant, and other respectable Gentlemen at that very period filling high si tuations at Calcutta, but now in England, or even my humble self who filled a high and confidential military appointment at that time, although not belonging to the Bengal Iresidency ? 13. Was not the admission of Sir W. Rumhold, Bart., the per— sonal friend and official servant of the Viceroy of India, into a Banking Establishment, 900 miles distant from Calcutta, a dangerous precedent, and in itself a most imprudent measure? would not such a personage, coming front the Government House, and knows to be related by ties of consanguinity to the Governor-General, possess a vast and undue influence at a corrupt and venal Court? And however honourable and high minded the person may be, it is not in human nature to avoid tentptation, which promises to be profitable, and to forego - the exercise of power and influence, which promises to be advanta geous. I .here again disclaim. most positively any thing like personality; in the remotest way I intend nothing,of the kind, nor. would I intentionally wound the feelings of any one, even the most mean and obscure. It is a far more pleasing task to applaud than to censure, but unfortunately, as the world wags, far easier to discover errors and imprudences than to detect merit and virtue—l believe, Mr. Editor, I shall take a holiday , to-morrow, but of that lam not at present certain. However, you will not on that account delay the insertion of this. There were some Errata in the two. preceding letters, but chiefly in Oriental words, and, allowing for the wretched scrawl I write, 1 give you credit for not committing more mistakes, and I have not yet fortished you with the Key to my Hiero gliphics. I am, Sir, Your obedient Servant, SUBADAR. • Feb. 21. PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS. NOTICES of MOTIONS, and ORDERS of the DAY, which now stand on the ORDER-BOOK of the HOUSE of COMMONS for the PRESENT 'WEEK. Monday, Feb. 28. ORDERS OF THE DAY. 1. House to be called over. 2. Supply—Report. 3. Supply—Couunittee. 4. Weights and Measures Bill—Committee. 5. Ways and Means—Committee. 8.. Annual Indemnity Bill—Third reading. 7. ExcheqUer Lills (£20,000,000) Bill—Third reading. 8. Transfer of Aids Bill —Third reading. 9. Customs and Excise Acts—Committee thereupon. 10. Assessed 'faxes Acts—Committee thereupon. NOTICES OF MOTIONS. • 1. Sir Henry Hardinge—Ordnance • Estimates. (In Committe of Supply.) 2. 31r. Chancellor of the Exchequer—Statement relating to the Vinanceis of the Country. (In Committee . of Ways. and M ans i ) 3. Mr. Goulsurn—Bill to facilitee proceedings of . the Corn miissitiners of Judicial Inquiry in Ireland. - 4. Mr. Gaulburn—Bill to amend Act of last Session, relative to Treasurers of Cities and Towns in Ireland. 5. Mr. Hodgson—To refer the Evidence taken before the Com mittee on London and Westminster Oil GaS Bill, of last Session, to the present Committee on a similar Bill. Tuesday, March 1. NOTICE OF MOTION. Sir Francis Burdett—To take into consideration the Petition of the Roman Catholics of Ireland. Wednesday, March 2. NOTICES OF MOTIONS. 1. Mr. Secretary Peel—Bill to consolidate the . Laws relating to Juries, and for regulation of Special Juries. 2. Mr. Home Drummond—Bill for the more easy recovery of Small Debts in the Sheriff' Courts in Scotland. 3. Lord Archibald Hamilton—Bill to amend the Small Debt Act of Scotland. 4. Sir Geo. Hill—Bill for the regulation of Co-partnerships of certain Bankers in Ireland. Thursday, March 3. . • •NOTICES OF MOTIONS. 1. Mr. Maberly—Repeal of the whole of the Assessed Taxes. 2. Mr. Hume—To move the following Resolution—" That no Member shall vote or against any Question in which he has a direct pecuniary interest." 3. Mr. Berries—Hill to provide for the application of monies arising in certain cases of assessments for Land Tax. ORDER OF THE DAY. Game Laws Bill—Second reading. Friday, March 4. ORDER OF THE DAY. Dissenters's Marriages Bill—Second reading. NOTICE OF MOTION. Lord Viscount Palmerston—Army Estimates. (in Com mittee of Supply.) - PRIVATE BILLS. • • • Second Readings for this Day. Orsett Inclosure; Stockport, Leeds and Tong Lane-end, Leicester and Lutterworth, Melton Mowbray, Grantham, Brameote Oddhouse, Welford Bridge, Lockwood and Mel tham, and Leeds and Whitehall Roads ; Stockport Gas ' • Ash ton. Gas and Waterworks; York (N 0 . 2.) ImproVement; Welsh Iron and Mining Company ; Liverpool and Manchester Rail way : and Dalkeith Two Pennies Scots. mouthPreiialnr cesidpo af y PORTS3IOUTII—from LONDOX or NV INDSOR, kg way of FARNIIAM.—Every exertion is making to promote this inte. resting new route, which wil l save the p ublic a distan ce of six miles, and open a communica tion with an entire new an d pope. • lolls district: A second survey is ordered , under the in s p ect i on of Mr. Brookes (Assistan t to .Ir. Mc. Adam), to enable hi m to sugg est any improved live from his former one, by which it a p : was only p nlyr.rEn n sixteen sr I milesuL_ fromttheintermediate land orts p . irt l o l wmal belonged to the Crown, of little present v a l ue; n i ne in which one-third of the usual expence would be saved, by it not being necessary to raise fences. When it is consi dered that Portsmouth has attained a height in a commercial point of view hitherto unknown. in time of peace, and is daily increasing in importance--the intended Steam conveyance to the Isle of Wight—the moderate charges of otherit eam vesse l s to Plymouth, Jersey, and Guernsey—the probable form a ti on o f Hail-Roads, Docks, and Warehouses for commercial purposes ; too much praise cannot be bestowed on the Commissioners and other respectable individuals who have subscribed their names in support of the plan, which, in addition to the general benefit increased traffic at all time affords, will prove of immense ad vantage to the agriculturists in the neighbotirhoOd of Peters field, by opening to them the extensive Corn Market at Farn ham, and giving . therrohe facility of conveying their produce at a cheap rate to the metropolis by the canal near them. We understand, ou the hest authority, that the plan of the proppsed Portsmouth Commercial Docks has been submitted to, and approved by, mercantile and other interests of the highest eminence in the city, and that shares to a large amount have been purchased. It is not only admitted to be an object of the highest importance to all classes of persons in Portsmouth and its ne►ghbourhood, but that it witl afford a most important auxiliary to the great commercial interests of the country, in facilitating the arrival of goods in the London markets, as well as of expediting the ships destined to foreign stations. It may not be generally known to the admirers of the late engraver, WILSON LOWiti, that one of the earliest efforts of his graver was a shop_c ar d, which he executed o n a pewter plate, for a fishmonger in \Worcester. GENERAL CATHOLIC MEETING. In consequence of a notice given in the publia Papers that a Meeting of the Catholics . of England would bo held on Saturday, to take into consideration the propriety a petitioning Parliament against the Bill for suppressing the Ca tholic Association, the Ball of the Freemason' Tavern Was nearly filled at an early hour. At one o'clock his Grace the Duke of Norfolk, and the fol lowing Gentlemen, entered the room, and were loudly cheered —Mr. O'Connell, Lord Stourton, Lord Killeen, Sir Thomas Esnionde John H. Webb, Hon. Mr. T. Stourton, Hon. Mr. Preston, "111 r. Hugh O'Connor, Mr. Shiel, Mr. Bellow, Mr. Coke, of Norfolk ; Mr. PloWer, M.P.; Mr. Bodenham, Mr. Whebell, Rev. Dr. Collins, Mr. O'Gorman, Secretary to the Catholics of Ireland ; Mr. Blount, Mr. O'Hanlon, Mr. Eneas 111`Donnell, and the whole of the Catholic Deputation. His Grace the Duke of NORFOLK said, he had great pride in being surrounded by the Catholic Gentlemen of Ireland and England, and so many Protestant friends, whose co-operation would, he trusted, succeed in producing those concessions and benefits for the Catholics, which were unjustly withheld from them, and which would be for the good of the country at large. Letters from the Earl of Shrewsbury and others, complaining that they were prevented from attending the Meeting, hilt ex pressive of their great regard for the object of the Meeting and the exertions ofIVIr. O'Connell, were then read. Lord SToult'roN addressed the Meeting at some length in favour of the Catholic Association, and justified them from the aspersions which had been cast upon them. He contended for that liberality of religious feeling in Ireland and Englansl which was shewn in Hanover, Canada, America, and in countries of the Continent. His Lordship concluded by pro posing a resolution, the tenor of which was,lhat the Catholics claimed the right of religious liberty, and declared, that if they were in power they would extend to the Protestants what they now claimed from them, and they trusted that this declaration, would entitle them to the support of their Protestant brethren. Lord KlLLuisf stated, that the Resolution and Petition re presented his feelings ' and those of all the Catholics of Ireland, and declared, that if he thought the Catholic Association de sired that the Catholics of Ireland should separate from Eng land, he would immediately secede from it. The Resolution was then put and carried unanimously. The Petition to the House of Lords was then read by Mr. Edward Blount. It wasof considerable length, and recapitu lated the disabilities under which the Catholics laboured, and from which they prayed relief. It also prayed that the HouSe would not pass the Bill for the suppression of the Catholic As- sociation. The Hon. Mr. PiusTo-.4 addressed tire Meeting, and thanked his - English countrymen for their sympathy. kle con cluded by moving that the Petition be adopted, which was conded by Sir T r . ESMONDE. Mr. O'CoNN ELL now came forward. His appearance was again greeted with the most deafening applause. When silence was obtained, Mr. O'Connell, with much good humcur, begged that gentlemen would sit down, for before he should conclude, they would feel the necessity of taking rest, as lie ' could not possibly expect to tell them, in however compressed a -. manner, what he had to say—in fact, he almost dreaded the Herculean task he had imposed on himself-La task of "no" less magnitude than a recital of woes, miseries, and oppressions, which had for six centuries and a half been visited on the Irish ; aye, the suffering -and heart-broken Irish people. lie (Mr. O'Connell)' did not come to this cocfntry willingly,. he, might in one sense say, for he hsd left his home, his domestic comforts, his profession, his clients whose fates epended on bit exertions, and his clients whose fortunes depended on him.--- Ile had made this sacrifice however—he had come to Petition the English Parliament, that body which stood on the very pin nacle of fame for justice. How was he received ? Was he even heard in defence against the base calumnies uttered against the whole body, against seven millions of loyal and good subjects.? No, no, he said, and said it with shame. He was not heard— so much, then, for this long-boasted justice ! He supposed that he must now go back and tell these seven millions of suffering 4 Irishmen, this body that consists of more than one-third of the whole of his Majesty's subjects, that if they looked fur justice they must g o somewhere else than England—they must go to Germany.—(Loud applause.)—The Learned Speaker theta took an historical view of the period from William down to the present time, dwelling on the respective epochs as they arose, with -a force and acumen that very frequently called forth loud applause. He declared, that, had he been admitted to the bar of the House of Commons, he would have proved every assertion that had emanated 'fro= the Catholic Association by the most undeniable proofs. He instanced three cases of murder committed by Orangemen, and which he pledged himself 'to prove beyond denial. Ile declared, with much fervour, that he would not hold himself second to any Protestant in devotion to his King and Country ; and that though he were sure to meet death within the next half bout, he would freely join hand in hand with the Protest ant in repelling aggression. He defended the Association,. and declared, that its only object was to protect the poor, defenceless, and oppressed, and by open, honest, and peace.-. , able means, to obtain that share of their rights so long withheld from them. It was to check the outrages of the Orangemen—and for this, and this alone, were they to be gag ged ; but he would fearlessly tell their oppressers, that though -, they might say they would stop them—they might, indeed, put them down—yet they should still hear their complaints, if it were by the clinking of their chains. After dwelling . ironically on the opposition- shown to the Catholics by Certain Noble Lords, he called the attention of the Meeting to tlo _ clauses of the present Act of Parliament, which he de clared to be illegal and tyrannical, and an Act authorizing violence by Orangemen, who could . only be tried by Grange. Juries. Existence with such a law was not worth having, he would bear it, and when the dreadful storm broke on Erg- land, where would they find the pilot who could weather it ? The Association had brought Ireland to a state of peace. They . offered themselves not as encroachers, but to strengthen the arms of the British Constitution, and to join insuperably Engo land with the Irish Isles. Mr. 0'114%2.11.0N begged to say a few words ; on coming to the Hall this day, it had been his fixed determination to give a decided negative to the assertions that had been made in another place, relative to the interference of the Catholic Association in respect to certain prosecutions. He was Counsel in the one, and lie now solemnly declared, that what was asserticl to have • been said by Judge Mac Clelland, relative to, and injttstice of, his conduct on the occasions, was not founded in truth. He now solemnly declared this, and putting, as he did, a decided negative on the .affirmative of that Learned Judge, he was ready to appear 'at that bar: to which his Learned Friend why had last spoken had been denied access. He could not, however, help calling the attention of the assembly to the case of the two Greys. There the attornies, three 'in number, and the Jury who tried the cause, were all Protestants, and the de; ceased a ,Catholic. In reference to this case he could 2 150 affirm, that the leading Counsel who had been retained for • those he could not call them by any other name than --- There was another case in which it had been asserted; that the. Association had conducted the pros - ecution. He could affirm • this to be an unfounded statement, fdr it was not until the day after trial the Association had interfered. Now he had him self written to Government on this occasion, but no answer had been returned. The Learned Gentleman was proceeding to give some other cause, but the lateness of the hour precluded his going further into them, and he concluded by declaring, that so far from Orange Societies having, as stated, decreased , there never was a time at which they were so ripe for an Act like the one now complained of. Mr. Shim. was now loudly called for, and on his appearance was - greeted most enthusiastically. The Learned Gentle man eulogized the Association, and deprecated the re fusal to hear the petitioners by Counsel, and having addressee the Meeting at some length in the pure spirit evinced by Mr- O'Connell, lie declared, like him, that lie still hoped to see England and Ireland united in brotherly love ; that free &Se cussion would be granted to the Catholics ; and that, hand-in hand, they would stand. Protestant and Catholic, the pride and envy of the world. it n w r t a h s e further e o s b e s l e v r :d a ttihoi that , a t and the l d b o b d e y theariiinwgi th p f a c t! th eA seatedp ft e s t r ti ot some tohn f H House of Lords. A vote of thanks was then proposed to those Members of the House of Commons who advocated the Catholic Claims, wh ich was carried with acclamation. The Duke of NORFOLK then left the Chair, and Lord KM. , LEEN was unanimously placed in his stead. Mr. O'Cost NELL proposed the thanks of the Meeting to.his Grace, for the uniform zeal which lie had ever evinced: Lord STOURTON seconded the motion, which was' carried unanimously. His Grace returned thanks, and the Meeting adjourned a 4 half-past six o'clock. BRITISH CATHOLIC FREE Meeting of this Association, the second under its present desigaatioii , took place yesterday evening, in Dean -street, Soho, Mr. STAN": FIELD in the Chair. The receipts for the evening amounted to 31. 4s. 7d., making a total for two months, of about Two petitions were placed in the room for signatures ; one in favour of Catholic Emancipation, the other against Dir. Ooulburn's Bill. The Petition presented to the Howse of Coal mons by Sir Win. De Crespigny, on Friday last, was fry Mortlake, Surrey, not Botley, Hants, for the Equalization the Coal Duty,