The Sun. — London, England, 1834-03-18 00:00:00

SECOND EDITION. SUN OFFICE, seven o'clock. • THE LONDON GAZETTE THIS EVENING. ST. JAMES'S PALACE, MARCH 17 His Majesty has been most graciously pleased to command, that the Honourable Band of Gentleman Pensioners shall be in future called, his Majesty's Honourable Corps of Gentlemen at Arms. LORD CHA MBERLA IN'S. OFFICE, MARen 17, FOREIGN-OFFICE, 111Aacii 18. The King has been graciously pleased t) approve of the Chevalier de Cussy as Consul at Dublin for his Majesty the King of the French. DECLARATION OF INSOLVENCY. ELIZABETH ANNE BEECRAFT, embroiderer, Curzon street, May-fair, BANKRUPTCY ENLARGED. AUGUSTUS BROWN, baker, Dock head, Shad Thames, from March 28 to April 8, at two, at the Court of Bankruptcy. BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED. JGIIN WHITESIDE, merchant, Whitehaven. BANKRUPTS. FRANCIS PARRY, tailor, Brighton, to surrender March 25, at one, and April 29, at eleven, at the Court of Bank ruptcy. Edwards, Pancras-lane, official assignee ; Archer, Featherstone-buildings, Holborn. THOMAS W A R LA ND, silk-manufacturer, Steward-street, Spital.fields, March 24, at eleven, and April 29, at ten, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Burfoot, King's Bench-walk, Tern. ple ; Whitmore, Basinghall-street, official assignee. JOHN JONES, cattle-salesman, Plasnewydd, Carmarthen shire, March 26 and April 29, at eleven, at the White Lion Hotel, Carmarthen. Crowder and Maynard, Mansion House_ _place, London ; Jones and Jeffries, Carmarthen. THOMAS JONES, calar-maker, Birmingham, March 22 and April 29, at Radenhurst's New Royal Hotel, Birmingham. Norton and Chaplin, Gray's Inn-square, London ; Richards, Birmingham. THOMAS JENSON, druggist, Coventry, March 26 and April 29, at eleven, at the Craven Arms Hotel, Coventry. Fy_ son and Beck, Lothbury, London; Carter and Dewes, Coventry. HARROP WIGHT, grocer, Sunderland, April 1, at one, and April 29, at eleven, at the Londerry Arms Inn, Bishop Wearmouth. Miller, Furnival's Inn, London; Davison, Bishop Wearmcuth. STANLEY GARNER, inn-keeper, Liscard, Cheshire, April 1, 29, at one, at the Clarendon-rooms, Liverpool. Norris, Allen, and Anthony, Great Ormond.street, London; Toulmin, Liverpool. DAVID WATKEYS, dealer, Swansea, Glamorganshire, March 31 and April 29, at eleven, at the Commercial rooms, F.ristol. Stevens, Gray's Inn-square, London ; Perkins, Bristol. GEORGE STOCKER, grocer, High-street, Whitechapel, Middlesex, March 25, at three, and April 29, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Abbott, King's Arms.yard, Coleman_ street, the official assignee ; Allingham, Hatton-garden. EDWARD KNOWLES, grocer, Barking, Essex, March 25, at twelve, and April 29, at eleven, at the Court of Bank ruptcy. Overton, King's Arms-yard, Coleman-street. JAMES CA WT El RON, colourman, Bolingbroke row, Walworth, March 27, at half-past-two, and April 29, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Gibson, Basinghall.street, Oflh ial Assignee ; Turner and Son, Percy.strset, Bed ford square. PETER LOWE, merchant, Upton, Chester, April 2 and 29, at twelve, at the Commissioners'-rooms, Manchester. Kay, Barlow, and Aston, Manchester. PETER CLARKE, merchant, Kingston-upon-Hull, Apri 15 and 29, at one, at the Kinston Hotel, Kingston upon. Hull. Hicks and Marris, Gray's Inn-square, London ; Holder and Galloway, Hu. I. JOHN PARR, corn-dealer, Jenny Hole, Worcestershire, March 28 and April 29, at eleven, at the Black Horse Inn, Kidderminster. Michael, Red Lion-square, Holborn, London; Bird, Kidderminster. THOMAS WICIGHT, victualler, Northallerton, Yorkshire, April 17, 29, at eleven, at the Golden Lion, Northallerton. Hall, Bishop, and Mourilyan, James-street, Bedford row, Lon don ; Hirst, Northallerton. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT, THIS EVENINt, HOUSE OF LORDS. MESSAGE FROM THE COMMONS. Mr. Bernal, Mr. Hodges, Mr. Brotherton, Sir George Staunton, and other members of the House of Commors, brought up the report of the committee on the Warwick election, the Army Mutiny Bill, the Irish Jury LAWS Consolidation Bill, the Yarmouth Midge Bil, and several pr ivatr bills DISSENTERS.—UNIVERSITY OF CAMBRIDGE. Earl GREY gave notice that he should on Fray next present a petition from several members of the University of Cambridge, expressing their wish that that University should be open to the admission of Dissenters. The Duke of CUMBERLAND inquired who the petition was from ? Earl GREY r.plied, from the University of Cam hridge.—(Hear.) INSOLVENT DEBTORS. Lord WYNFORD presented a petition from R. G Hutt, complaining of the practice in the Insolvent De,,• tors' Court. THE DISSENTERS. Lord WHARNCLIFFE presented petitions from the Diss nters of parishes in the county of York, praying for a removal of the disibi itied under which they Inboured. The Earl of UXBRIDGE presented similar petition• from Holyhead and several other places. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented similar petitions from Bucks, Lombard-street, Birmingham, Bagley, Glamorganshire, and several other places. PRINTING PAL ERS. The NOBLE MARQUIS postponed his motion on this sub j-ct, for the purpose of obtaining further communications on the point. BOROUGH OF WARWICK. Lord WYNFORD presented a petition from the ho rough of Warwick, against the bill for uniting Leamington Priors with that borough, and praying that the petitioners might be heard at the lair. Lord DURHAM, in objecting to the petition, went at some length into the circumstances that took place before the committee upon t..e subject in the House of Commons, and ohs, reed that if the house concurred with the prayer of the petition, it would be a useless waste of time and an extravagant expenditure of the public money. After a few observations from Lord WYNFORD, the 'Marquis of CLANRICARDE, and the Marquis of SALISBURY. Loid WYNFORD asked the noble Earl (Durham) ; when lie intended to mnve the second reading of the bill :because be would give notice that on that day he wou.ri Move that Counsel be heard at the bar of the house. The Earl of DURHAM said, that before naming a day op which he intended to move the second reading the bill, he should like to know what course his Majesty's mi nisters meant to pursue, because this was the first of a series of five or six bills that were coming before tin house, relative to brioery at elections. Did they intend in all these cases to bear witnesses at the bar of th. hou..e, and to incur a heavy expense in going over th, same grounds again, and in hearing the saute evident-. as had been given before the House of Commons ? If they agreed with him in thinking that the other tws, was the fittest to purify ite own repiesentation, he shook be prepared to stare such a case on the evidence that had been presented, which had been given before the House of Corn ~ o n., "pi would enable him to call for the seconu reading of the bill Earl GREY I.id he he did not rise for the purpose 1)1 entering into the merits of the case, nor into the fact of whether corruption had prevailed to the extent stated. Neither was hr then preppred to give his opinion upon th. itiestion of whether the house was bound to hear evident-. —he rose on account of the call m ide upon th , Governipen the node lord (Durham), to state what course in their opinion, the house ought to take, upon lb. bill then on the table. It was a matter of very gray. consideration, whether upon a question which came befor. the house in its judicial character, it was right to inflict such a benvy punishment upon any individuals without aff.rding them an opportunity of vindicating themselv s. Wben the question came on, he would be prepare(' to give his opinion upon it as individual that it was that he had risen to say that he did not consider that it tyro bis duty as a minister to take any steps upon th. sohjecr.—(Hear, hear, from the opposition sioe.) As at.. irelieidnah he woul,f br prepre'l to state the views hi entertained upon the pubjeet ; but as the case was bolo!, th- house in its judicial character, lie did no' thil,k would b, doing his duty in acting as more than an hid.• rhino] iii• mher. The Esri of DURHAM said be had made the ca upon the government - a ecau•e he remembered that i” the case- of Ea•t Rexford a former Government too, up the question, and the noble duke then at the bra of the Ads • iiAlt stated the views of the Governmen: upon i 4 10 1 l • • the matter, he thought that the c 01 tig been followed in the pn sent case , . het voe- otia Thj s se would move the tel and sea 6 the bill . oti'- u day the 2eth April. ..,, , 'kIFORD ‘ then tee ) notice, that he would Af,s‘c - ' -- ---,.%, •--,,./?.,., ...' ''.:: ();: Sir John Mark Frederic Smith has been appointed Gentle. man Usher of his Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Chamber Ordinary, in the room of John Beaumont, Esq., deceased. move on the same day, that the parties be heard by court eel at t h e har. E rl DURHAM then presented petitinos from the Prn. test / int dissenters of York-street chapel, Wa!worth ; of Wendswrrerh and sevens' other places in Surrey, paying' for a removal of the dia h.lities under which they laboured. Earl FITZWILLIANI presented a great number of petitions from Dissenters to the same effect. He acid he regretted the meagre provisions of the Marriage Bill introduced in another house. In his opinion there ought to be no communication between the ministers of the established church and those of the Dissenters upon such a subject. He also thought that the church ought to be a society separate frons and inde pendent of, the state. The NOBLE EARL then presented several petitions from the members of the Established Church at Biegles. wade and ►everal other places in the West Riling of the County of York, praying for protection to the Established Church. CORN LAWS. The NOBLE EARL also presented petitioni from Liver. pool and Nottingham in favour of a free trade in corn and gave notice of his intention after the recess of pre. Renting a similar petition from the tnetropolix. ENGLISH AND IRISH JUDGMENTS ASSIMI LATION BILL. The Marquis of WESTMEATHpresented a petition from a person in the Marshal.ea against this bill, and upon Lord Wynferd moving its cecond reading, stated that it was his determination to oppose it, if the second read ing was insisted upon at the present moment, as he con sidered the bill vicious in principle. If the bill went no further than the preamble, he should have no objection to it. He thought that the further consideration of the bill ought to be postponed till the noble lord (the Coan cellor of Ireland) waa in his place in that house. After a few observations from the Marquis of CLAN MCARDE and Lord WYNFORIG, the bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Friday. The bills on the table were then advanced a stage, after which the House adji,urned till Thursday. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER to , k the chair at 20 minutes past 5 MES`;AGE FROM THE LORDS. The SPEAKER atinounc-d to the house that a message had been received from the Lords, stating that their lord ships had agreed to the Marine Duties Bill without any amendm, nts. Mr. H. JOHNSTONE brought up the report of the committee upon some additional provisions to the Dom• barton•hire Road B 11. DISSENTERS—(ENGLAND.) Mr. BAINES pr...ented peti , ions from the dissenters o Leeds, Eet Puddesley, Steeley Bridge, and several other places, praying relief THE PENSION LIST. Mr. HARVEY said that he had been waiting for an open day to bring forward his promised mo• tion relative to the pension list. He would now give n tiee that he should tiring it forward on the sth May, and he trusted that he s .ould be afforded an opportunity of dui og Lord ALTHORP was understood to say that he would afford the bon. rne,rdier eve•ry opp rtunity in his power. DISSENTERS-ENGLAND. Sir G. S rAuN FUN pie4ented pe iiions from the Dien yrs of Rigby and 'I hroop, in Hainp4hire, Nunea tun, Rugby, and Ather,ione, WJrwiekshire, praying fur relief. Mr. MILDMAY presented a petition from the Dis sent, rs of Winchester, to the same 'fleet. Mr. BRISCOE presented a petition from the Die stnters of Y ,, rk Chap. I, Walworth, to the same eff, Sir GEORGE GREY presented a petition from Tre rel awe , . th, , Who m Bill. Mr. RICE TREVOR presented a petition from the in hahitiots of Llameavon, for a repeal of the malt tax. Mr. PLUMPTRE moved for a return of the minutes to he hid on the table of the courtmAtial held on Cap- tain Aitcheson. Lord SANDON presented two petitions fir the better oSservdnee of the Sabbath Day from Cuester and its neighbourhood. Mr. WILLIAMS presented a petition from the dis senters of Castletown, praying for relief. Mr. O'CONNELL moved that the Speaker do not issue his warrant for a new writ for the borough of Carrickfergus befner the 3d of May. Mr. LEONARD gave notice that he would move for certain returns on the 25th of March. A Mamma presented a petition from Wootton Under_ lodge, praying 3 or relief to the Dis•enters. COMPULSORY PAYMENT OF CHURCH RATES Mr. DIVETT, atter presenting two peti.ions from Diss ntrrs, praying for relief, brought forward his inotit.n tor the extinction of compulsory p.yment of ci.uich rates oughuut England and Wales. That subject, which he had placed on the books of the house at the latter end last session, and renewed this session, was of a I most momentous nature. He would be of liged to claim a large share of , hat indulgence of the house which was always granted to those who so vety seldom tre•pussed upon its attention. From the first time that he bad paid any mention to the Subject o t the c •mpulsury payment of church , aces, he had always looked upon it as a subject of great grievance, and although he 1 It grateful to his Majesty ~ inin , sters for the beneficial reforms which they hat intro. duced, he telt also that now was the time when they ought to remove the grievances mider which the dis senters laboured. The opinion of the house ought now to be given upon this subject with a view to its final adjustment.—(Hear.) The meaning of his mo tion was exclusively for the abolition of church rates, but it was connected .with many other burdens under which Dissenters laboured, and it was also mixed up with church reform. The noble earl at the head of his Ma jesty's government bad been reported to say in another place that he would resist the vain attempt to abolish the compulsory payment of church-rates as he would resist the attempt to separate church and state. He (Mr. DO deeply regretted that determination' for so far from its having a tendency to uphold the connection netween church and state, it would ti nd more than any hing else to its separa ion. The house was aware that in the course of the last two months there had been a vt-ty Increasing disposition, not only on the part of the Dis- s, niers, but also on the part of members of the establish, d church, to do away with church rates adogether, and hat feeling bad been growing for several years past. He believed that one great eause of the present sir, ng reeling on the part of the dissenters, arose front a measure so tar back as the,year 1819. In that year an act passed through the house, which granted one million for the ouiliting of churches.—(Hear.) This was paid equally by the dissenters and the churchmen ; but in many districts when the dissenters exceeded in number the members of the established church, they were not only taxed with this million to build churches, but incurred a constant tax to keep those churches in repair. Timis was a very strong ground of complaint on the part of as s-nters.—( Hear.) It was but right to state the amount paid for church rates, which be was enabled to do from a return of the local taxation ending 11Iarch, 1627. 'flie ci.urcb rates were there stated to amount to 564,0001., which formed a very important item of the whole amount of the local taxation of the country._ Hear, hear.) The sum thus received was according to the account expended in the following manner :—The account did nut go into detail, but state.l in round itumbers—for the repair of churches 248.0001 , organs an i bells 41,000/., bread and wine 46,000/., salaries E., clerks and sextons 126,000/.—(l-I,ar, hear.) This Appeared to barn to be a most serious exttavag..nce, trial extremely impolitic, as being not only disgusting to tie feelings of the Dissent. rs, but extremely injurious to he establishment. In calling for the ab.,lition of this e•s, he might be ask. 11 with very great propriety /low ha, proposed to make up for it. His opinion was, that it was not at all right to charge any man at - another religion for the suppot t ors religion from which oe dissented. It was said that it would be impossible to •tiaintain the church ❑pon those term•; but let it be re- •ollected th it the di.sen t,rs had now 8 000 placer of tvor- ship, and that they raised a sum of not less than one million a yell-, by voluntary contributions, for the inaintenince of their respective churches.—(Heir, bear.) lie stiou.d be able to show that the sum raised by Dis enters for Missionary and other pnrposes far I 'weeded hat raised oy the establishment. In discussing this que.tion, he was anxious to bepatate it altogether from the que-tion of tithes, for anxious as he was to remove an unjust position open the Dissent.-rs, he did no , .cish to touch that property which our ancestors shauld remain for the support of religion.— ( Hear.) He knew there was no dsposi , ian to 4o away with the sinecures in the church, but he did not wi.h to attack the church, at the same time lie thought the money thus consumed ,ught to he applied to otner purposes. Thtre appeared to be 300 , 0001. per annum ostensibly applied to ,he ,•uppoi t of divine service in ca- thedrals, and in tact the real amount was much larger 1n the case of the cathettal at Exeter 12.000/. psi inflow was provided, and he understood from good authority that if the property from whence that sum was derived wsi let at a tack rent, it would produce7o,ooo/. "1 here were many instances of such property being propriated to the views of individuals, and in end a way as to beggar the sucee4SOr and frustrate eof iginal object. With regard to the progress of dissent, it would be found to he considerably granter in Wales than the urn greos of the estahlishui e t. In the last six month. 73 000/. I ad been raised in Wales for the purposes religious worship. The progress of dissenters had been very great; the num ber of chapels increased, the congregations that frequented them became more numerous, and with their num bers the feelings of hostility to the establishment always kept place.—(Hear.) No hing could do more to conciliate the good wishes of the dissent rs, and to avert their hostility from the established church, than by according such claims as were just, but notwithstanding their justice the concession would be received with gratitude.—(Hear, hear, hear.) Nothing would tend more to the interest of the church, or to fix its own stability than by extending the rightsthat were demanded ; for in all extensive parishes and large towns thete was a hostile feeling towards the church, whieh though growing stronger every day. it was not imposs lite to lessen if not remove. He claimed the induleence of the house while he was trespassing on their patience ; but he received many papers at so late an hour that evening, that it was impos sible for biro to arrange tfiein so oil to come at the infor mation they contain-d with any degree of facili►y. He, for hit own part, would entreat of that house most earnestly to reform the whole church by removing the grounds of complaint. Inroad, were made every day on the church by the dissenters. Let hon. members look back to the time of the reformation. Let them consider whether the Roman Catholic religion was not app trendy as wow, at least it was in temporal power, as the established religion of those kingdoms, and still the strong current of public opinion came on rapidly, and taught them at the time that practice at variance with the spirit rf Christianity could not stand against it. The established church was situated as the catholic religion was at the time of the reformation, as regarded shores. He would remind them that what was possible then was equ so now ; and the dissenters were not less zealous or less effectual in ream' ine Christianity to it orig;nal principles. He was happy to see better feeling springing out from the universities upon this subject.—(Crie• of " Heas."-_ Within the last few hours he had been informed that a petition signed by fif y-f .ur out of 150 of t h e I • do of the University of Cambridge had been forw trdtd praying that tt e cla:ms of the Dissenters to be adiiii to , to the U , •iversities 1-f England be taken into the favour able considetat on of that house.—(L , u I c ies of " Hear, hear.") That formed a strong contra-t to the Unit ersity of Oxford which had in the yeas 1829 rejected the right honourable baronet whom he did not then see in his place, in consequence of his having declared himself friendly to civil anti religious liberty.—( Hear.) and had, during the present year, elected as iis chancellor a noble duke whom, he supposed, was the only p rsun they could get to represent their an. iquated opinions__ (Laughter and hear.) He (Mr. D ) had brought for. ward his motion without any wish to excite ill feelings on either side. His object was to releive the people from the grievances which they justly complained of, and without which it would be impossible to have peace or tranquillity in the country. There was one obstacle, he feared, to this happy consummation, arising from the indisposi.inn of the clergy to give up any portion of the fees to which they considered themselves entitled. A striking example of that sort might he seen in the parish of St. Asaph (as we nnderatowl.) The presentation to the living had been purchased for the sum of 40,0001., and in the year 1827, a Cemetery Bill had been procured in which it was provided by a clause, that no individual whatever should be interred, until the (LEFT SPEAKING.) IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, MJRCH 17. The Lord Chancellneq Speech concluded from our Second Edition of la%t night.) _ _ _ - , He thanked the nnbte lord for the op portunity given him of stating these matters. If he had known that he should have been called on to discuss this matter, he would have b.en better prepared than at pre sent with the particulars to make nut the statements he had advanced. He should now say one word upon ano. ther subject. There were said to l e a many del•cts in the system of appeals to that house. One defect of the sys. tem especially wit, that while the whole of their lord ships were supposed to sit to hear appeals in that houv, they did in fact generally devolve the duty on those of their number who happened to he profea•innal men. The consequence of this was, that he, who was the Jut'ge in the Court of Chancery. sit in this house after wards, and heard the appeal from his no, judgment. This tv , isi hi g hly inennverilent ; it was k. , .pingthe word of promise to the ear, but breaking it to the judgment ; for the appeal was in relity a re hearing before the same judge who had decided in the court below, To avoid this as much as possible, the noble and learned earl who had held the Great Seal for so m.ny years had constantly had reconrse to the assistance of the Lord Chancellor of Ireland....a IMIZe scar,ly inferior to himself in the extent of his I-Itning. In the same manner, he (the Lord Chancellor) now de-iced to have the assistance of any equity ju'ce. He had had that assistance from his noble and learned friend Lord Plunket, while that noh'e and learned inrd was in England, during the preceding sessions; and ae efirdinyly, when his noble and learned friend Lad been here, he had betaken himself to hear English and Irish appeals. It so happened, however, that this year he could not possibly have the assistance of that noble and learned lord. The ins'ant be had it, and if he had it not soon lie should not longer delay, he would under go the task of sitting ; but he believed that their lordships would rather think that he had good reason to wish to postpone the hearing of English and Irish appeals in equity cases till he could have the assistance of his noble and learned friend. He was aware that he had the power to hear them, and to say, as some of his prede cessors had done, " I see no reason to chance the ()Pinion I entertained in the Court of Chancery, and I affirm the decree with costs." He knew he had such a power ; but there were two objections to it : the one was, that justice should he done in such a way that the suitor ought to be satisfied with it ; and the ocher was, that justice should be done in such wise that the suitor may he sai.fi.d, if it be possible. Under these circumstances he had given no ire that he should not adj ,, urn from the Court of Chancery. He bad had a proper and most re spectful, but still urgent representation made to him on the subject. He had said that the vacation would he longer, and that it would be better to sit now than in -.-- the vacation ; but their answer was, that the course of that Court had been to adjourn at this time ; that m• n made their arrangements upon it; that their health re quired that there should he some ' , mission of labour ; and he felt the force of these arguments, and that he bad no right to call on gentlemen to exhaust themselves; therefore he had said that he would make arrangements to preclude the necessity of this sitting. The c onsequence of this would b e , t h at t h e Court of Chancery wou ld rise on 'I hursday before Good Friday, and not sit again till the Monday or Tuesday of the week after next. Their Lordships would adjourn over Good Friday, and sit the whole of the Easter week, a course which they pursued three years ago. The consequence of this would be, that sitting during that time, and having an arraneem( nt by which that sitting could he continued during the rest of that period, the whole of the time might he occupied up to the first day of Term. So that b foie Easter Term there would have been a greater number of sittings, and a disposal of judicial business in th.t House, not to men-_ tion the Cott' t of Chancery, than there ever had been at any one time before. Lord WYNFORD made some observations, which We regret to say were wholly in.udible in the gallery. He then referred to the Lord Chancellor's statement re:pect. ing the impropriety of pressing too closely upon the ap peals, and observed, that on that point he totally dis sented from the noble and learned lord, for he believed that the principle applicable to the case of appeals was very dlerent from that supposed by the noble and learned lord. The great cause of appeals, the great object in view in making them, generally was the delay that must take place before the judgment could be carried into execution. If that reason were taken away, and it would be taken away by pressing closely upon the list of appeals, there would not be so many of them brought; for the reason of bringing them—the advantage of delay—would then he at an end. He begged to confine his observation., however, to Scotch appeals only. This remark, however, he would make will regard to the appellant jurisdiction, that however objectionable it might be for a judge to re• view his own decisions, suitors would go to that house un less they were actually prohibited. They might etablish courts of appellee jurisdiction in Westminster-hall; but o long as that house retained the power of ultimate deci sion, so long would suitors never be satisfied till they ob tained than ultimate decision. Lord ELLENBOROUGH said that if the reasons as sipneil by the noble and learned lord on the woolsack for not having heard appeals up to the present day were valid, they must be equally valid for pursuing a similar course in all future years. With respect to English and Irish appeals. th e ref;ite, it would be convenient for the suitors at once t t be informed that they would not in succeeding ses•ions come on for hearing before the 15th of Ap il, as such an intimation would rid them of a great deal of anxiety. With respect to Scotch appeals, lie apprehended that in all probability the same reasons as the noble and learned lord had given for follovving the course pursued in the pre sent session would be found to exist in future years, and in that case it would Ikewise be convenient that the Scutt+ suitors should be informed without delay that the practice of the existing cession would in future form the rule of their lordships' proceedings. He confessed that the noble and learned lord's explanation was so far satis factory to him (Lord Ellenborough), inasmuch as he did think it would be more convenient to the counsel, and con sequently more convenient to the suitors, that the English and Irish appeals should be heard at the period when the counsel were employed in Westminster-hall, than when theywere engaged in Lincoln's Inn-hall. He was not, how ever, entirely satisfied with the reason assigned by the noble and Liarned lo,d for not having yet heard any of the Scotch appeals. The noble and learned lord had stated that the Scotch suitors were not prepared with any case for hearing at the end of last session. This statement did not in the least surprise him (Lord Ellenborough). The session of list year was one of unusual length, and it might very fait ly be supposed that the Scotch suitors never calculaied on its extending almost until the end of August. Besides, he was informed that the usual course of proceeding was for appeals to be entered in one session, and to be heard in the next. The Scotch suitors, therefore, had no expecta tion of their cases, entered in last session, coming on for hearing in the same year. But surely there existed no reason why these parties should not have been heard since the commencement of the session, particularly as it would be as convenient to the counsel to attend their lordships' house during March as during the Easter holydays. He begg e d to say that he did not impute to the noble and learned lord that he was an idle man, nor had he said that the noble and learned lord was not diligently employed in the Chancery Court ; but he did think that, as the noble and learned lord sat in that house to hear causes, their lordship s had a claim on some portion of his time, and were at least entitled, when they saw the noble and learned lord doing what had never been done by any of his pre dee-ssors, to inquire what were his reasons for deviating from the usual practice, and to consider whether or not thos e seasons were valid. He knew that the noble and learned lord was much engarled in the Court of Chancery, and believed that he ve,:s occupied to a very late period of the night, or rather early hour of the morning, in prepar ing his judgments. He questioned not the noble and learned lord's assiduity and industry ; all he wanted to know was, why some portion of his time should not be devoted to !Irani ,g appeal.; in that house? 'fhe LORD CHANCELLOR repeated what he had be fore stated, that he did not take the noble lord's inter ference in this matter in bad part. Indeed, be rather thanked the noble lord for bringing the subject under their lordships' notice. He complained not of the noble lord's manner ; there was nothing discourteous about it, inasmuch as he had not meant to insinuate, as he certainly had not openly stated, that lie (the Lord Chancellor) was an idle man. But with respect to the Scotch appeals, the noble lord seemed to have entirely forgotten his (the Lord Chancellor's) statement, when he said that this was the first time of a Ctianceller not sitting in the House of Lords before Easter. He (the Lord Chancellor) ha i already stated, that in one instance Lord Eldon did not sit judicially in that house once in the whole year, Lord Gilled having attended in his place; and that Lord l a ynelburs: was absent for half a year, during which pe riod Sir John Leach and Chief Boon Alexander sat for the purpose of hearing appeals. He wished their lordships to bear in mind that at the time of the absence of the noble and learned lords just mentioned the arrears were pressing, and that at the present moment there were ac tually no arrears of Scotch appeals. It was a fact that at the end of last session he was proceeding with appea entered at the commencement of the same session : he was beating in July appeals entered no longer before than January, and he only stopped for the re sun he had already explained. But he was perfect'y willing that they should be proceed d with, and he bagged the Scotch suitors and solicitors to attend to what he was ataout to say. He was now warned that there was a com plaint that the Scotch appeals were not heard. He would take care, then, that they should he heard, hut the parties must not quarrel with the judge that heard them. His noble and learned friend (Lord Wynford), who had just quitted the house, being always prepared and willing to do his duty in that place, would be teady to hear them, and the Scotch suitors, who complained that the app-ids were not heard before Easter, might be assured that they would henceforward be brought on. But he Was not bound to have arrears in the Court of Chancery for tt sir pleasure, and he would not. They must rest satisfied with such judicial assistance as his noble and learned friend the late Ceief Justice of the Comm , n Pleas would give them, no doubt wi h perfect alacrity ; and he hoped they would, as he knew they ought to, receive it with thankfulness. Here, then, we., an end of that complaint. Was h.- to be told that be was bound ;() give up the bu%ine.s of the Court of Chancery f r he purptc.e of herring Scorch appeal.? He denied hat he was. It was t nough for him, being itnpor. tined on the subject, to say that the hu•iness should 'e done in his alts.-nce. This promise be now gave; the app-ala should be heart, but he did not bind nitn-elf to hear them. Let the parties look to that. lie knew it would be exceedingly cony. n ent for same persons if h e were to sit in that house hearing Sciittin appeal-, and allow the business of the Court of Chancery to get into arrear. Th e n t h e comp l a i nt would b e t h at the C ourt 01 Chirac ry was n eg l ecte d ; t h at the business w,.s permitted to get in art ear, and all for the purot se of despatching Scotch appea l s in the House of Lords. Thin was not alto. t eth er an i maginary charge; it was one which had already been in ode against him. It had been said that the Scotch business gave him no trouble; that lie could hear Scotch appeals easily, but that it was much mole laborious and difficult for hum to dispose of English suits in the Court of Chancery, and th it therefore he preferred sitting in the House of Lerds to decide the Scotch appeals. He was determined that that charge should not be brought iLiaitist him again ; and though, by taking the Scotch busiti, as himself, he might put an end to all complaints about arrears, raised in many instances by parties irritated because their own cases were not taken out of the proper turn, he at II should not do so, either to gratify them or three other parties who wished for nothing better than an opportunity of attacking him, as formerly, for neglecting his duties in the Court of Chancery, and who red nothing so much as the disagreeable fact—the non existence of air ars —(Cheers.) Lord ELLENBOROUGH said, that as the noble and learned laid bad thrown out an obscure intimation, some what in the nature of a menace, of the course to be adopted with respect to Scotch business, it would be very important that the parties interested in Scotch appeals should dis tinctly understand what the noble and learned bra's inten tions were. Did he mean to hear the Scotch appeals pre s nted this year at the end of the session, if it should he sufficiently prolonged, or before Easter in the next year? The LORD CHANCELLOR said he should answer the noble lord's inquiry shortly, plainly, and distinctly. He had said nothing about the end of the session, but he intended to do exactly what his predecessors bad done before him, and what one of them had preached by way of advice, and practised by way of example—namely, to sit in the Court of Chancery, and not in the House of Lords, arid to leave his noble and learned friend to hear appeals presented to their lordships. Lord ELLENBOROUGH thought it was impossible to give the Scotch suitors a more indistinct answer. Toe LORD CHANCELLOR—They will underst d it well enough. The conversation on this subject then dropped, and the house adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, 211Anex 17. REPEAL OF THE MALT DUTY. Mr. COBBETT, being called upon, said he rose to offer to the house, with great submission to their better j u dgment, his motion upon the malt duties. His [ notion was simply, that from and after the 6th day of October next, the duty upon malt do cease. Before a tei toril: it roc was eede n d to the that he s s r diversreasonhsoud ay in l respect of something his rela ,ice to the numerical proportion which those who wo uld be more immediately benefitted by the repeal of the malt duties bore to the rest of t h e community. It was represented in that house that t h e agricul ural part of the community was compa ratively very small—an insignificant uart of the com munity compared with the manufacturing part. The hon. m ember for Middlesex told them they were a nation of ma nufacturers, and the right hon. member for Manches ' e. , -r slid that they were destined to he the manufacturing of the wor ld. Toe noble lord, the member for tar. Nort h, Riding of Yorkshire had told them that the agri cultural interest bore a email proportion to those who were interested in the repeal of tie corn laws--(Hear.) N error was more gross, or delusion niore fallacious, than that, or ever so widely spread. He would hose that the repeal of this tax would be as beneficial to the ma nufacturers as to the agriculturists. It had been said that the number of persons in the agricultural districts was greater than that in the manufacturin g districts, and a reference was made to Guildford, in which it was said there were 22 agricultural parishes and only one manufacturin_. parish. Now the hon. member fur Guildford was the owner of an entire parish, but wbq would suspect that he ttglp, owned ouaroirtiincgtuhi itmt thhauseelehrls shares, aa t : hsge manufacturers maaufacturlng part of the county ? On the contrary, that to n, ruenirer old tell the house p n hst t2 g , ertlneo ef years by er: eae rsA dependantmaking o a return g e a ebb n tuana u luytr f run a e: c ,r i sse u s es tt:trofehs(7). that ,a s to v tnho e hde r eoi were rwbt :eenurl benefit e v e, fit i r had been laid before the house, giving the number of o and those employed in inanulactures appeared to be nearly manufac turing portion of th community accruing from the repeal of the malt tax would be four times that the agricultura population would derive. But that, however, was not exactly the question. The hon. member fur Mary lebone had said that the repeal of the house and win dow taxes would be the only thing to benefit the people. Did the hon, member for Marylebone suppose that the repeal of the malt tax would not have the effect of relieving his constituents? Why t h ere were resident in London a thousand families, aye, he might say two or three thousand families, who were constantly Occupied in making agricul rural implements, in making ploughs, in making harrows, in making drills, in making c h urns , i n making presses,in making tubs. Were these not the constituents of the hon. member for Marylebone? Destroy the agricultural in terest, and what would become of those families? Why, they would all be starving. What were the salesmen oi cattle ? What were the salesmen of seeds ? Were they not inhabit ints of towns? What was all Mark-lane? Were not all these persons deeply interested in the pros - perity of agriculture ? What folly it was, then, to say that the people in the towns had nothing to do with the land. The fact was, that the interests of the one party were closely connected with the interests of the other, but if there was one more essential than the other, it was the interest of the land. If the full amount of the malt tax were paid aidexirpiteonste in theheexche collection quer,an of th and if therew e e t r a e x, no an e d xtra-oerr waste of the property of the people occasioned by it in other ways, why then, if Government wanted the money it certainly would be wrong to deprive them of it. Bat if he could show, as he was quite prepared to do, that besides the enormous expense of collection, the tax was in many other respects burdensome and injurious to the people, he thought he should have a right to call upon the house to repeal it. The stamp tax, which produced four millions annually, cost only 168,0001. in the col lection. Bat, of the whole expenses which attended the collection of the excise, five-fifths were to he ascribed to the collection of the milt duty.—(Hear.) In fact, the country was paying above a million for what pro duced only about four millions and a half. But the ex• pense of collection was not all. There was the great evil which attended the monopoly occasioned by the malt tax. The house tax, the window tax, and other taxes of that description led to no monopoly. But the malt tax led to a most extensive and injurious monopoly. Four mil lions of quarters of malt, at a duty of IL Bs. per quarter, would cost the people only 6,6oo,oool.—whereas the same quantity, with the cost of collecting the tar, and with the burdens cast upon.it in other ways, actually did cost the people 14,400,0001. So that this tax took from the people, took from the landed proprietor, took from the farmer, took from all the consumers of beer, nearly ten millions more than they would have to pay if there were no malt tax. But it would be said that somebody must get the ten millions. His answer was that the Exchequer did not get it. II it got into the Exchequer be should not complain—but the Exchequer only received four millions and a-half, for what cost the people fourteen millions and a-half. The great maltsters, the great brewers, were the people that got the money. The noble lord opposite had, on a recent occasion, expressed his doubt whether the peo ple, if they had the means of doing so, would again take to brewing at home, having formed a habit of receiving their heer from the brewer. Talk of human beings losing the habit of drinking home-brewed beer. It might as well he said that they could lose the habit of consuming victuals. In fact, brewing beer was precisely like making t.-a. Beer could be brewed with as much ease as tea could be made—and as to utensils, a porridge pot, holding five gallons, formed an excellent boiler, and a wash-tub answered admrably for a mash tub and a cooler. With such means much better beer could be produced than any with wnich the public brewer now furnished his customers. The loss sustained by the farmer by not being able to brew beer for his lab , urers as formerly was considerable. It might be said, let the firmer give the labourer money in stead or beer; it was the same thing. But it was not the same thing. The farmer could obtain more work done fir one pound's worth of beer, than for two pounds in money. There was nothing so useful, so necessary to the farmer, as to have good beer for his labourers. It he had none wh-n his labourer asked for beer at noon he would tell hint so, and give hint 6d. instead ; what was the con sequence ? Why that down would go the scitbe, or the rake, and the labourer would be off to the beer•shop, where, perhaps, he would stay till three o'clock in the when there he were req good ured beer it h his sn day's the work la bourer was deeply interested in this matter; she was ‘l" w vo ::r ir i c7h d inh b ge ; m iu w l g l h y hetr a ed n ar t s i n fa kif irly completed. The wife of the la 'et-ply interested in keeping her husband at home ; and when once be had got into the har•it of going to the public house, nod indulging in all the laughter, and gossip, and tippling of the place, it was with great oifficulty that he caul(' he kept from it. But the greatest good that would result front do- repeal of the malt tax would be the re storing of young lahourers to the habi , of living in the farmer's house. Ti the malt tax alone it was to he att ibuted that boys and young men front twelve years old to two or three-aod-twenty did not live entirely in the farmer's house, as they used formerly to do, and as they ought always to do.—(Hear.) When residing in farm houses, these young persons ban, their holidays at Easter, at Whitsuntide, at fair times. Unused to idleness and dissipation, they were tired of them in a day or two, and re , uroeul with seat to their labours. N.iw their whole life was a round of revelry and deoauchery, without any in.ster or mistress to cons ttol them, or to check their vicious propensities. But it might be asked if it was possible to get back to the good old system ? He could not say. Uudoubta Ily it would be a work ol difficulty ; perhaps it could n ver be entirely accomplished ; but at any rate means should be adopted to prevent the labourers from remaining in their present state. And as to a return to the system of allowing them to live in their employers' houses, he was persu tried that much might be done. One of the greatest objections which the farmers, and the upstart gently who now lived in farm-houses, hail to receive the labourers into their houses, arose out of the malt tax; and the repeal of that tax would go a great way to effect so desirable an obje c t. His film opinion was, that the repeal of the malt tax would, more than any other measure, reconcile the people of this country to the government. The people would then say that reform had done them some good. The hon. member concluded by moving, as an amendment to the motion for going into the committee of supply, a resolution, " that, from and after the sth of October next, all the duties on malt shall cease and determine." Mr. FIELDEN seconded the motion. Lord ALTHORP concurred in much that had been stated by the hon. member for Oldham. In the first place, he perfectly agreed with the hon. gentleman, that as an abstract proposition it would be much better that there should be no malt tax, and the people be enabled to brew their own beer at their own houses. But the ques tion was one which could not thus be considered ab stractedly ; it must be considered in connection with other measures ; it must be considered in connection with the state of the revenue ; it must la: considered in connection with the necessity of observing the public faith, and ol maintaining our various establishments at home and abroad. He also perfectly agreed with the hon. member for Oldham, that if the malt tax were to be touched at all, it should be taken off, not partially but wholly. It was only by taking it off wholly that any real or solid advan• ro tage would accrue to the consum e rs o f b eer. The only question, he repeated, was wh et h er suc h a repeal would be consistent with the prese n t s t a t e o f our revenue. Of a th n e d t l n io ta u l se, stag an n t a l ti i n f n a of bi e l v l e t r o y rep fin e a a n l cia tlhpe lliace e l t d i n d g u t in wtehr this be was convinc e d, th a t if t h e resolution proposed b the hon. member f or Oldh am were to be acceded to by e e Y brought in ac cor di ng l y, t h e effect would be the immediate country. Under these circumstances, he trusted that if the hon. member for Oldham persevered in his motion, it would be rejected by the house. Most of the observations made by the hon, member with respect to the pressure of the milt tax on the people, were, he (Lord Althorp) believed, applicable to every description of tax. He did not think with the hon. gentleman, that, under any cir cumstances, the labourer would be able to buy beer at a cheaper rate than that at which it could be brewed for him ; and be feared that no alteration could bring back that system of receiving labourers into the houses of the farmers, which existed in a different state of society. He was apprehensive that the day for that had passed by. He must meet the motion with a decided negative. Mr. CURTEIS said, that if it were competent to him —which it was not—to move an amendment upon an amendment, he would propose to the house, in lieu of the resolution of the hon. member for Oldham, a reso lution, " That it is the opinion of this house, that from and after the sth of April, 1835, half the duty on malt should cease and determine." A proposition so reasonable: would, be trusted, be acceded to by his Majesty's govern-. tnent. He thought if they could raise a million by public lottery it wonld be very beneficial. The duties on gin might also be increased. There might also (as we uu we Is held m derstood th e b u geotietalati) to. ..ii Inci e?. of t '''',_ a , tax to th e amount o f two m illi ons. H e h o ped the n°,_ member for Oldham would not divide the house, althougeo if he did. he should certainly vote with him. Sir WILLIAM INGILBY t h oug h t the loth I-Iseult° la on fair grounds. The house had now had the 'or Oldham had done very right to try the question spite of hearing the question argued by the most able In r a e n cent such questions in the King's dominions. ° II a . 1 ta occasion they had heard him (Sir W. Ingilby) s e t:: bad question in somewhat a burlesque w a y; they.ha d ivben he it laid before them in a very different manner• n this (Sir W. Ingilby) had recently addressed the house ..: ng de , subject, it ought to he recollected that, it be ecesory dared on all sides that some equivalent was n t he to supply the place of the four millions whichhe "- of his bu m ffo e this great t i t hL c hh i h il ee e T aE;rppleßivprieters of beer shops, w h o did no t repeal of the malt duty would deduct from venue, he felt himself taunted, and compelled to s ti t . g . j e a.. the various modes which he lied proposed for t 8 1 "__Ii . ,, !mod the deficiency.—flear.) He would not recede, e su ve" . pptortuglossti then, from his former ( position. nor depart from the :_ aestion he had thrown out, of laying a moderate tax 'o'er, and a larger one on that filthy fluid gin, in which ked indeed . t What buf• i ht, foonery was equal to that which voted one way one e n night, another way another night, on the very Iran:oil-l' tion.—(Hear, hear.) But even if there had b been buf foonery,. he had not sought his character.... -it had _ 'arced u • e tr n o e p t o y li t s wansuafrlminonsetreywimming. They talks'' the Exchequer of his own accord ; but, as was in that \ house, by ' particular desire." —( Hear, and a o h l (n a woh.dnfoe home - brewed believe) e o ,e..e t bl i gentlemanre playedtevaw relieveex )e;d laugh.) He should not assume the character any more; he had appeared in it once, and in a wa which be knew might he turned to good account, f y ir even the hon. member (Mr. Curteis) had been,rigging , from hi s budget, in his reference to a gin tax. owniiersg:se brew on their premises. Mr. CUTLAR FERGUSSON, as one of the agricul tural class, as a friend to its interests and proeperisP would, nevertheless, vote against the motion of the ha' , nember for Oldham. He doubted not the hon. member for Oldham could find immediate means in a reduction of the interest of the national debt. Mr. T. ATTWOOD And why not ? Mr. C. .FERGUSSON—And why not? Simply Ther e that it would shake the national confidence. were only two means of providing a substitute—the onte already referred to, and the other a recourse to a prop er t y tax.—(Cheers.) He understood those cheers . --(Reo ',., cheers.) He, then, for one, would most strenuously oppose any such tax. t h e day Mr. SINCLAIR should be rej&ced to see thole when a property tax would be imposed in lieu o f taxes which bore so heavily on the poorer elss e ! e ' suppor e. ' Mr. M. PHILLIPS could not feel justified diabam that Ittwrih:::Nis e n. . arguel,it.auonif tepCt expected. the l o o, i idna tax ing the motion of the hon. member for 01 e n tioo re evening, however anxious to see the tax i- -,uem o f the Pealed, because he had not confidence in the feeling _. favour ofa I , r r house after the example of last session in . . 0 0 , perty tax, or a substantial e quivalent for the rell ll ° . so large a mass of taxation.—(Hear, hear.) ~„ no as Mr. MAXWELL (Renfrewshire) said it was sbat thought one of the landed interest, but as a friend to the poor, the he should upp.,rt the motion.--(Hear, Ilese./. ass Yes r ' . 1' as was his duty to do, satisfied that though sowing the seed which would ripen by anot her itb lw' if he divided the house he would certainly vote. ht the,speech of the hon. member for 0 aro° a _ d or t i li tY a nieht he a small one, it would before lerY 1"g opinion of that house. twhbieneateshrpea proof os C contended agriculturistsihwould r f a l en ,o i l e of which thatet t k l w o i n understoodo t b or twirh oeni mc. RO.IILLY should vote for the in oxiOUS foe Mr. T. ATTWOOD slid, no one was more no nne the presetvation of national faith than he vi d a u e ction than looked with greater horror at : My unjust re : k e odbrig" he; but he wished the hon. member for Ka . ._,, „f• the (Mr. Cutlar Fergusson) would sometimes th 7 4, k e pt eroken manufacturer. It was a bastard faith sv..V:rd the .. money in insensible masses of metal—it was a bas td at the , which kept the fundolder in unhallowed wealth, .." ..04 e od sone time beat down the manufacturer, die mere ly of the farmer. The farmers of England wer e . rob by , it , three..fourths of their property. The house . s n t . n efere a....' : .vas true, in a gigantic position, but it never i t:'_ ? 0 .ti ! he begged pardon, it did interfere, but b w . i . 0., it w" r 0 l'' was most squeamish—it was alarmed when stand in the position of the Israelites wou not to have seen in his place, : s tiee '.': would be far from advocating a measure of sn.ln 1, 0 t., -.4 rwiehdr which c y o hf apnidismngiesint:ltu.aisilet.lyK iThei) King proposed ofn none i.e t oplttaraxddt who o fu t h a d e b , die fundholders in support of the landlioldels,sure, he should make them amenable to the Pr e eV ... s o rry i . ' vier the euff,riog q, vier _ nt with rod re About flit having the means, in fact Egypt, snaking bricks without ootr straw.—(Hear, and laughter.) Still, he douittbeat stare the noble lord would live to see the day when bright cif things must have an end—(Hear) --and t he be °tars , abric of his vision would be destroyed, an d a wre ck Ati wood) would confidently say, leave not tae to see .enind.—(Ch e ers.) He would implore the , w „„ e riti virile the 14 , t glimmer of the sun of Britain s P7/ flig ht was on them, beh.re the dal knew and glodom slow rip' set , ~ iverepread the face of fair and palmy Engli n• a llow ' jag ''' (said the lion. member), for God's sake, and , its purse. the pees, nt policy to career triumphantly , °million' in ' With to aril to the malt tax, it was five „,eduee these amount; but he believed that in order to s ' cbarge a 00 ' , five millions, no leas than ten millions were lo f .Ear a the English people. In point of fact the PeV, e r i ce of the ,and had to pay a tax of 150 per cent. on th e o men° , 1 ‘ malt. The present, lie (Mr. Attwood) Wit .. .41-14. 0 ' a/ Nis not an agricultural but a general questi"' m inent When the noble lord would push labour t° co cas es..° pries, he ought at tl:e same time to bring dol vn _ m ove r . (Hear.) The noble lord could nut proceed in the th i n k t hiolt ne had done; true, with 20,0001 . a year he tn i f_ eva and himself safe, but he was sure from what be : went to expected from the noble lord, he would not sit .°.. swe pt 'cc the agricultural interest of this great counturi, rather as it were by the besom of destruction, but n ,_, ev il!. ,tea, in, and shield it from its great and inape aoil , e ca —( Hear, hear.) put an - a Mr. STANLEY would entreat the house t y n e l? ...0 g6OO to a discussion tioin which there could be der u r id a ba u pe the y ..t. practical results. He (Mr. Stanley) sit ° ... member for would act thus, and not think tvitla the " bu on his P illaW Birmingham of the noble lord sleep in g ) Vie present liter. in a dreaming of his victim.—(Much lime evening , back ~ question was fully discussed a lewd the country, an°. large assembly of the representat ives tion he would The quea would 1 8 Y was it to be again re opened ? oentletnen ~ t. e say was negatived ; yet now hurl' r taxation Ot `be they Stater;ould not go on with the present _ w ool but he would ask how they could go O. A ii spo ke the means to supply that reduction.—(llear.) '"_.. o3 s to on the side of reduction ; hut where were the 0 " .. wer e come from to balance the account, when five millinon'idham subtracted ?—(Cheers.) The hon. member for tir e.-- had said he would not be satisfied with a ball meas bow with a halt reduction of the malt tax ; and the paper member for Birmingha m was directly in favour of moo' elyteney• In fact, they wished to make ministers facture bricks from stiaw.—(Cheers ) An h" . ,, o se di nt had spoken of a property tax ; let, him then Pr r e t r erwa rds. tax first, and let a malt tax be introduced a la i diog part Mr. ROBINSON was surprised at the e° ". s ' spee ch ' of the right hon. the Secretary of the f Colonies i keptiloen in tha t which deprecated the re-opening a " a - e u tt e lleeti ° , a of ter' house; that surprise originated in ll' tretotally torgatteer t.in proceedings, which were not yet mind. He Was but which were indeed rife in the po : a very brief V a l e not forgetful—for who could—that sn - ..• ,of sauctio `b a t of tittle a measure was carried With the mess ure, • led , nisters, which was in effect a Government i re ty,rese° % which was in less than a little fortnight ent . , _ meft Ile —(Hear.) He (Mr. Robinson) admittetd tne l a he cou- - Ile wankt onerous and ohjectionble , bu . _ , 0 .81. _ iat .. thi of exalting the aglicultural over otbec' at de p . re_f oi. would deal fairly towards all. He was ag" l l the d I ll d a ing the standard of money,—(Hear.) A l ties hail arisen from the depreciation of th e Whic h 1795. in • eo t . 0 its Mr. BRUCE said Scotland, h at the mons ressiaa i the he was speaking, laboured under a great deP_ coge d bY ..ble ago iculturel interests. It would not be hen„ eh s he . 7 o f ineateire of rehef in tithe and poor laws sv''' e pia ' __ wog' t o w em lord contemplated for Emil ind. The s vas s' •, was grain in Scotland from 1829 to 10 3 t sol ' et, 7 to '. , 6 51s. 3d. the quarter; hu: Irons 179 , h b e im, arket , 1.7 s Id. In the county of Stirling, wh it readY w. w as ) , nuf,cturing county had the advaneree el e ory last , . • F e tirtl „, so. r, the average price of grain, as fixed in es , lb . bea r '. wheat, 465. sd. ; bai ley, 255. 40 1 . ; a n ' i ° t way, - ii ge :011ie in the northern county of ISIoraY,. ~.,, ,e a eer op, 10 1 r 435. sd. ; barley, 255. ; and hats, 15•• a „, love - 1 tor in the adjoining county of Binff, nag en an d os ta ' a rs Ttiere wheat sold for 375., barley for 23 1 .a .c, tob haa t ) ,..„ Io.„ With such te ices it was nraeifest the b re ' cune ra a °•_: could not pay their rent, much less obtain a ii, :'._ to F a ' s, profit; and, therefore, they had a right to . N ..re t , • • liana "` 0.1 titmetit for relic:. Time lan !lords ot :NA) (Nor condition touch iuf:rior to those of Eogland' make °tbtieothi,les.irwinrut