The Sun. — London, England, 1825-02-09 00:00:00

OR( • Xl 4 , ry ' = .*e Ok'lT',," .1.1• ‘,„! 1'47 4 a . 'ea'W4-4.1, (17: -lilt( • 4, N NUMBER 10,113. WEDNESDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 9, 1525. PRICE SEVENPENCE. ARMY CONTRACTS. Commissariat Department, Treasury Chambers, Jan. 29, 1825.' NOTICE is hereby given to all Persons de- - %irons of contracting to supply BEEF and MUTTON to'his Majesty's Land Forces in Cantonments, Quarters, and Barracks, in the under-mentioned Counties and Islands . Bedford, Berks (including the Town of Hungerfor,d),'Ber- W ick, Bucks, Cambridge (including the Town of Newmar ket), Chester, Cornwall (including Scilly), Cumberland, Der by, Devon, Dorset, Durham (including Holy Island), Essex (exclusive of Tilbury Fort); Gloster (including the City of Brist ol), Hants, -Hereford, Hertford, Hunts, Isle of Man, Isle of Wight; Kent (including Tlibnry Fort), Lancaster, Leicester, Lincoln, Middlesex, Monmouth, Norfolk, North eaull'it°n, Northumberland, Nottingham, Oxford, Rutland, Somerset, Stafford, Suffolk, Surrey, Sussex, Warwick, We stmorland, Wilts, Worcester, York, in the several Coun ties. of N ort h and Sou t h Wales, in the several Counties in North Britain, and in the Islands of Alderney, Guernsey, and Jersey. That the., eliveries are to commence on and for the 25th d IY of March - next; that Proposals in writing, sealed np, and marked "Tender for Ar:My Supplies," will be received at this Office On or before Tuesday, the lst day of March, but none will be received after Twelve o'Clock on that Day. Proposals. ;mist be made separately for each County and Island, except for the Counties comprising North and South Wales - , all of which must he included in one Tender ; wls4 the. Islands of Guernsey, Jersey, and Alderney; 'as also must the several Counties in North Britain ; and each Proposal must have the Letter which is annexed to the Ten der Properly filled up; by Two Persons of known Property, en gaging to become hound with the Party tendering, in the Amount stated- in the 'printed ,Particulars, for the due per formance of the Contract; and no Proposal will be noticed nl es's made ,on a printed Tender, and the Prices expressed i n Words at length ; and should it So happen that during the cOntinuance,of the Contract no Troops should be supplied by virtue of-the same, the amount of the Stamps on the Con -440 and Bond, paid in the first instance by the Contractors 011411 he.refunded to him. P articul ars of the Contracts may be had upon application at this Office,: between the hours of Ten and Four. WEST SUSSEX, EAST HAMPSHIRE, AND CHI . CHESTER GENERAL INFIRMARY AND DIS . PENSA4t - A T a OF,INERAT,' MEETING of the SUB ion Wednesday 2 - a Februsry, 1825, • His Grace the DUKE of RICHMOND in the Chair, • • The follo*ing Resolutions were agreed to : In consequence of the very liberal manner in which the ge neral call upon' the beneVolence of the District, reported to this Meeting by the Committee, has been answered, ResnlYe'd,' • 1.--That measures be .immediatelftaken to carry into, effect the object of the Subscribers, 2'—"ghat Messrs. Ridge, Murray, and Ridge, Treasurers of the Chichester Dispensary,.be appointed Treasurers of this In stitution ; and ..that the Donations towards the building and equipment of the Infirmary be paid to them on or before the' 2 4111 of March 1825 • 3 . —That hi s G race the Duke of Richmond, Lord Selsey; E. Woods, J. Peachey,'and•Charles•Baker, Esqrs be requested to act as Trustees of- this Charity, • and that all benefactions be vested in their names. • • 4.--That whenev er d ona ti ons f or t h e b u ildi ng s h all amount to 2 00/. the same sh a ll b e l a id out by th e T reasurers, til t he ed, in the.purchase, of Exche q uer Bills, in the names of want Trustees • berg---That a Com m i ttee b e appo i nte d , cons i st i ng o f 15 Mem. (five to be a quorum), with full power to procure suffi thet and , by pu rc h ase or ot h erw i se, f or t h e I n fi rmay ; to f i x site, size and plan of the hse ; to ener into contracts fr the building, and equipment of ou it; and to t adopt such fufthe o r Measures as may appear to them expedient for promoting the g e neral obj ect a the Charity, and for completing the establish anent of . thetame :—th a t th e C omm i ttee h ave power to fill up - othe 4 "Y aoaney,that may occur in th e i r num b er f rot h among th e r Subscribers ; that they be authorised to defray, by drafts o')ir Ithe th e Treasurers, the incidental ex p ences i ncurre d on account Institution ; and as soon as their plans are matured, that Me eting be empowered to call, and th a t t h ey d o ca ll, a genera l m eeting of the Subscribers. 6.=--That the following Gentlemen be the Committee : ne Duke of Richmond Rev. Mr. Pilkinton night Hon. L or d S e l sey Peachey, Esq. • The Bishop of Chichester Dr. Forbes E. Woods, Esq. Dr. Sanden Joseph Godinan, Esq. Mr. Gruggen C. Baker, Esq. Rev. W. Holland J. Woods, Eqs • W. C. Newland, Esq. Archdeacon Webber the following scale of Privileges of Subscribers be I‘ l °Pted (subj ect to t h e future revision of the Governors):— An annual subscription of Two Guineas to constitute the ._ l . l bscribe r a Governor (that is give him, or her, a vote at all General Meeti ngs ), and entitle is, or her, to the right of re 93orthending one In-patient in the course of the year, and so on, to proportion for every additional Two Guineas subscribed ; Provided that no person whose annual subscription does not ex ceed Ten G u i neas shall have more than one Patient in the house be a tim e :-2. The existing Regulations of the Dispensary to retained in regard to Out-patients, viz.—One Patient to be ni:!wed constantly on the books for every Guinea Subscriber ; and no Out-patient to be in the receipt of parish pay. RICHMOND, Chairman. 0 , The Ch a i rman having left the Chair,—Resolved, That the 2st thanks of the Meeting b e giv en to his Grace the Duke Ch or Richmond, f or hi s a ble, kind, and liberal conduct in the Amount of Subscriptions already ad vertised Don. for Ann . ual Building. Sub. £7,289 15 £699 13 Subscriptions since received. T he Bishop of Lincoln - - 11 41. 8 * G sre_e_n, Oving - - • and Airs. Hounsom Lady lllurray - Messrs. Gathouse- Air. Charles Gatehouse - - Mr. Hobby - Air- Hewlins - - - Al essrs. Bifli n and Sons - Mr. Lefevre, Worthing - tev. Robert Chester - Mrs. Hon - Holiest Lodsworth - Ant hony Capron, Esq. AI idhurst Richard Wardroper, Esq. ditto ,1,1,,ev. Dr. B a yl y, ditto - - -4115. Pigott, Fitzhall • - - John Mitford, Esq. Pittshill - ' R ev. G. H. Webber -A. B . - - - - - 1 1 Mr. Fl orance, Bracklesham - - k ° The Names of Subscribers are received at the Pop in Chictiester, Arundel, Petworth, Bognor, Portsmouth, sea, and Petersfield, by the following Gentlemen:—R. Wardroper, E,,Sq. Midhurst ; W. Padwick, jun. Esq. Havant; 1. P. Hicks, ~X'Sq• Emsworth ; P. J. Martin, Esq. Pulborough ; G. plant, ..r.aq. Storringtoa ; at the Libraries, Littlehampton and Bog nor.; and by the Rev. W. W. Holland, Chichester, Secretary to the Committee. 20 0 50 2 2 50 2 2 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 2 2 3 3 1 1 10 0 2 2 - 26 5 5 5 - 26 5 5 5 2 2 - 10 10 - 20 0 2 2 - 20 0 1 1 1 1 W. W. HOLLAND, Secretary. SUSSEX COUNTY HOSPITAL AND GENERAL SEA-BATHING INFIRMARY. Brighton, December 11, 1824. AT a MEETING held this day at the ou) SHIP TAVERN, to take into consid,eration the irro prietv and practicability of establishing, in the,,COUNTY of SUSSEX, a COUNTY HOSPITAL; and GENERAL SEA-BATHING INFIRMARY, The Right Hon. the EARL of EGREMONT, Lord Lieute nant of the County in the Chair, 1. It was proposed by the Right lion. the Earl of Chiches ter, seconded by T. R. Kemp, Esq. 111,P., and resolved un animously, That the present sera of profound peace and general pro sperity, is a proper season for renewing the eflbrts.of the afflu ent and benevolent Inhabitants of the County of Sussex; and -town of Brighthelmstone, for the establishment .of a County Hospital, and Sea-Bathing Infirmary. 2. It was proposed by W. Burrell, .E5q.11.1.P.;• seconded by. C. C. Cavendish, Esq. M.P., and resolved unanimonsly, That the town of Brighthelmstone is admirably adapted, by its central situation, and by the facility of access to it from all parts of the County, by its contiguity to the sea, by its means of obtaining pecuniary resources, and the number, as well as ta'.ent, of medical practitioners resident in it, for the establish ment and support of such an Institution : while its vast and in creasing population affords a wide field for diffusing the bene fits of so benevolent a design, amongst the labouring poor. 3. Moved by Sir M. T. Tierney. Bart., seconded by the Rev. Doctor Holland, and resolved unanimously, That a Committee be forthwith appointed from among the Gentlemen present, to devise such means as - to them shall seem desirable for promoting the object of the Meeting, and that they do report their proceedings to a General Meeting, to be called for that purpose on Tuesday the 4th of January next. 4. Thatlthe Right Hon. the Earl of Egremont, the Right Hon. the Earl of Chichester, and T. It. K em p, Esq. M.P., be the . Thistees, in whose joint names all sums subscribed, or to be subscribed, shall be invested in such securities as the Committee, hereafter to be appointed, shall deem proper ;• and that subscriptions be paid to the Treasurer of the Brighton Dispensary and Infirmary, on account of the Trustees, on or before the 4th of January next. 5. That the Committee do consist of the present Committee of the local Dispensary and Infirmary, together with the under-mentioned Gentlemen subscribing to the proposed In stitution, who have this day consented to act. The Commit tee to have power to add to their number, and five to be a quorum. The Right Hon. the Earl of John Hall, Esq. Egremont Dr. Blair The Right Hon. the Earl of Nath. Kemp, Esq. Chichester Charles Elliott, Esq. Sir M. I. Tierney, Bart. . J. Mills, Esq. T. B. Kemp, Esq. 31:1). R. Tamplin, Esq. ,Thomas Attree, Esq. G. Chapman, Esq. S. F. Milford, Esq. Mr. Isaac Bass Rev. Dr. Hooker Major Allen • Rev. Dr. Holland J . Mortlocke, Esq. Rev. T. Scutt Rev. Edward Everard. 6. That Thomas Attree, Esq. and the Rev. Edward Eve rard be requested to undertake the office of Honorary Secretaries to the Institution. (Signed) EGREMONT, Chairman. The Chairman having left the Chair, and the Earl of Chi chester having been requested to take it, it was unanimously resolved, on the motion of S. F. Milford, Esq., seconded by T. R. Kemp, Esq. M.P., that, in the opinion of this Meeting, the warmest gratitude of the Friends of humanity i s d ue to the Earl of Egremont, for his munificent donation of 2,000/. ; and for his actively benevolent exertions on this and all occasions to alleviate distress, and to promote the general welfare. THOMAS ATTREE, EDWARD EVERARD, Secretaries. Subscriptions are arecived at all the Banks in Brighton, and in London, at Messrs. Jones, Lloyd and Co.'s, Lothbury ; Sir John Pdrring and Co.'s, Messrs. Masterman and Co.'s; Messrs. Hanbury and Co.'s, Lombard-street ; and Messrs. Kay, Price. and Co.'s. Subscriptions received toward the erection of a County Hos pital and the General Sea-bathing Infirmary, in the town of Brighton, as reported to the General Meeting on the 4th of January. 'The Right Hon. the Earl of Egremont, Lord Lieutenant of Sussex - £2,000 0 TheL'arl ofChichester 600 0 Lord G. H.Cavendish 500 0 T. It. Kemp, Esq. M.P. - 1,000 0 W. Stanford, Esq, 105 0 IS . Burrell, Esq. 111. P. 100 0 C.C. Caiendish, Esq. 100 0 E.J.Curteis,Esq.lll.P. 100 0 Sir G. Shiffner, Bart. M.P. Sir C. M. Burrell, Bart. M.P. - J. M. Lloyd, Esq. 111. P. - 100 0 Sir M. J. Tierney, Bart. lOO 0 T. Attree, Esq. 100 0 S. F. Milford, Esq. Exeter - 20 0 Rev. Dr, Hooker 10 10 Rev. Dr. Holland 10 10 Rey. T. Scutt 50 0 Messrs, Hall, West, 100 0 Michell, Mills and Michell - £lOO 0 Geo. Chapmen, Esq. .20 0 Tamplin, Creasy and Gregory - 100 0 Rev. J. A. Tours 11 0 Mr. Isaac Bass 50 0 Major Allen - 10 10 John Moolock, Esq. 100 0 Sir C. Blunt, Bart. 52 10 Rev. J. R. Barber 10 10 George Palmer, Esq. 10 10 Sir It. Wilmot, Bart. 20 0 W. Wigney, Esq. 100 0 R. Wigney, Esq. 10 0 W. Wigney, Esq. jun. 10 0 George Wigney, Esq. 10 0 I. N. Wigney, Esq. 10 0 C. Goring, Esq. 100 0 W. A. Standart, Esq. 10 10 Mr. Hannington 25 0 J. D. Holden, Esq. 21 0 W. Borror. Esq. 100 0 Rev. H. M. • Wagner 25 0 Misses Metcalfe 21 0 D. Rowland, Esq. 21 0 John Valiance, Esq. 25 0 Mr. H. Peircy 10 0 H. Holland, Esq. 10 0 Sir J. D. I'aul, Bart. 21 0 John Lawrence, Esq. 10 10 W. Attree, Esq. 10 10 Rev. T. Baker, Stanmer 20 0 1 1 Thos. Atkinson, Esq. 21 0 60 0 and Borrer Dr. Blair - Nath. Kemp. Esq. Charles Elliott, Esq. G. Wagner; Esq. 100 0 10 10 lOU 0 100 0 20 0 ARMY CONTRtCTS. Commissariat Department, Treasury Chambers, Jan. 29; 1825. N OTICE is hereby given to all Persons de sirous of contracting to supplithe fotfosVing Articles for the Use of the Army, viz.:— BREAD—To his Majesty's Land Forees in Cantonments, Quarters, and Barracks, in the under-mentioned Counties:— Devon, Dorset, Sussex. FORAGE, viz. —OATS, HAY, and STRAW—To his Ma jesty's Cavalry and Artillery Horses in Barracks, and Oats, in Cantonments and Quarters, in the under-nientioned Couitt ies : Devon, Dorset, Hants, Lancaster, Middlesex.} That the Deliveries are to commence on and for the 45th day of March next ; that Proposals in exiting, sealCd up and marked, "'!'ender for Army Supplies," will be received at this Office on or before Friday, the 25th d r ay, of Fe bruary. next, but none will be received after TWeli,:e ,i'rrock on that day. Proposals must be made separately for each County, and each Proposal must hare the Letter Whicii is .an nexed to the Tender properly filled up, by Two Person's - of known property, engaging to become bound with the Pai•ty tendering, in the amount stated in the printed Particulars, for. the due Performance of the Contract ; and no Propos'al will be noticed unless made on a printed Tender, and the Prices expressed in Words at length ; and should it so happen that during the continuance of the Contract no Troops should be supplied by virtue of the same, the amount of the Stamps for the Contract and Bond, paid 'hi' thvi first instance by the Contractor, shall be refunded to Particulars of the Contracts may be had upon application at these Chambers between the hours of Ten and Four. P. S. Samples of the Bread and Meal may be seensat „the Office between the hours of Twelve and - Two. lam; INTERESTING TO LADIES. . ELEON° RA'S FINE SANO OILS, PASTE, and LAVO CREAM.--The valuable Recipe haVing laid dormant for some time, in consequence of the death pt' the Proprietors, the Grand-daughter is induced, in consequence_ of the numerousapplications front the Nobility and Gentry, to introduce•those valuable Articles again. Sano Oil, than* invention to eradicate and 'prevent the growth of superfinoui liair,*has been experienced by the first Nobility, and never .knowia to fail : sold in packets, containing de pilatory pot and phial, ss. Sano Paste the Proprietor par ticularly recommends to Ladies as a most excellent preventa tive against the effects of the sun and any inclement weather, before riding or after sea-bathing; it beautifies the hands beyond any thing ever made known, and cleanses the skin from impurities, and renders it delicately white and smooth, which Ladies will perceive, after using it one month they will have no occasion for any other addition ' - it is also an ines timable remedy for all s ca ld s , b urrs, an d chilblains. Lay° Cream, justly esteemed for its excellent properties, by adding an extraordinary clearness or fairness to the complexion; used after the measles or small-pox it will cause the marks to wear off; it prevents the hands or any other part from chapping, or smart in winter ; and particularlyAkreetqe to gentlemen after shaving, as it cools and heals the disagreeable remaining heat. Sold by appointment by Messrs. Sanger, 150, Oxford-street; Gattie and Pierce, 57. New Bond-street ; and by the Proprietor, Mrs. Williams, 54,. Gloucester-street. Queen-square, Holborn. Where also may be had, of the Proprietor, Cold Cream and Lavender Water, of superior qualities. ,BILIOUS A!,sip LIVER COMP,LAINTS. • S a mild and effectual Reinedv - Tot all those bisortlers which: originate in a vitiated action of the Liver and 13elixry Organ, namely, Indigestion, Loss of Appe- tite, kleadaelie, Ilearttitun, Flatulencies, Spasms, Costive ness,' AffectiOns - of the Liver, &c. &c. DIXON'S ANTIBILI OUS PILLS have met with more general approval than any other Medicine whatsoever. Thee unite every recommenda tion of mild operation With successful effect ; and require no restraint or confinement whatever during their use. In tro pital cliMates, where the consequences of redundant and vi tiated Bile are So prevalent and alarming, they are an invalu able and efficient protection. They are likewise peculiarly calculated_ to correct - disorders arising from excesses of the Table—to vesture the Tone of the Stomach,---and to remove most Complaints occasioned by Irregularity of the Bowels. Sold in Boxes, at 2s. int.„ 65., Its., and 22a., by Butler, Chemist, 4, Clienpkide, St. Paul's; Savory and Co. 136, New Bond-street ; 220, Rettent•strett : and by .the principal Me dicide-venders throughout the Ucited Kingdom. ANGEL INN, O.VORD I _R(WAL_MAIL AND.POST COACH OFFICE. TO LONDON. TITS' PAH NCI; of WALES , every Morning at half-past Two o'clock, through Henley, to the George and. Blue Boar, Holborn ; and returns every Afternoon at Three o'clock. . . • Light Oxford; 'every Morning (except Sunday) at Eight o'clock, through Henit.w.to the Bolt-in-Tun, Fleet -street, and Hatchett's.- Hotel, ; and returns from the City at Nine, and PiecadillYachall past Nine. • . White Horse, every Morning at Nine, punctually, through He.nley,-. to the.. .White Horse, Fetter-lane, Holborn, and Hatchett's Hotel; Piccadilly ; and returns every Morning from the. City at half past Seven s and Piccadilly at Eight o'clock. Blenheim, every Mornihg at Nine o'clock, through Wy combe,: to the George ittnl Blue Boar Holborn ; and returns every Morning at Nine: • • Berkeley Hunt, :every Morning at half past Ten, through Henley, to the Gssffe and, Falcon, Aldersgate-street ; Dyson's Black Bear, Piccadilly ; and Belle Sauvagc, Ludgate Hill ; and returns from the City every Morning at Six, and Picca dilly at half past Six. Retaliator, every Day. at Twelve, through Wycombe and Uxbridge, to the Bell and Crown, Holborn; and Moore's Green Man and St-ill, OxfordAtreet ; and returns from the former every Morning- at.• Eight, and the latter place at half past Eight. Hibernia, every Day at One o'clock, • through Henley, to Nelson's Office, L 2, Piccadilly (near the Burlington Arcade) the Bolt-in-Tun, Fleet-street, and. Bull Inn, Aldgate, and re turns from the City every Morning at Six, and Piccadilly at half-past Six. Champion, every Niht at at. half-past Nine, through Wy combe, to the-Bolt-in- fun, Fleet-street, and Angel Inn. St. Clement's, Strand; and returns every Day at One o'clock. Royal Mail, every Night at Eleven, through Wycombe, to the Bull and Mouth; and returns every Evening at Seven o'clock: Royal Mail, every Night at Eleven o'clock, through Hen ley, to the Angel Inn, St. Clement's, Strand, and returns every Evening at Seven. Birmingham (Day), every Morning at Eleven o'clock, through Shipston and Stratford, to the Hen and Chickens and Swan Hotels ; and returns every Morning at half-past Ten. Birmingham (Hibernia), every Day at One, through Ship ston and Stratford, to the Swan and Hen and Chickens Hotels : and returns every Morning at Six o'clock. Birmingham (Prince of Wales), every .Night. at Eleven, to the Hen and Chickens Hotels ; and returns every Evening at Six o'clock. Cheltenham (Berkeley Hunt), every Day at half-past Twelve o'clock, through IVitney and Burford, to the Plough Hotel ; and returns every Morning at Six. Cheltenham . (Retaliator), every Afternoon at half-past Two o'clock, through IVitn e y and Northleach, to the Plough Hotel, and returns every Morning at Eight. Cheltenham and Gloucester (Champion), every Night at Nine o'clock. Cheltenham and Gloucester (Royal Mail); every Morning at half-past Two. Warwick and Leamington (Royal Mail) every Morning at Seven o'clock, through Banbury and Southam. Worcester (Royal Mail), every Morning at half-past Two, to the Star Hotel ; and returns every Afternoon at Four o'clock.. Worcester very fast Coach, every Day at half-past Twelve, to the Hop Market Inn. Shrewsbufy Post C oac h es , di rect, every Day at One, and Night at Eleven, to the Talbot Hotel_ Cambridge (Lark), every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday Mornings, at 7 o'clock, through Thame, Aylesbury, and Bed ford, to the ,Eagle Inn. Southampton Post Coach, every ;Morning at Eight o'clock, through Newbury, Winchester, and 'Whitchurch, to the Coach and Horses. Reading Post Coach, every Morning at Eight, throu g h Abingdon, to the George Inn. Reading Original Dart, direct, every Afternoon at Two o'clock, through Dorchester, to the George Inn. . Bath and Bristol (Royal Mail), every Morning at Six o'clock, through Faringdon and Cirencester. Manchester light Post Coaches, direct, ever Morning at Eleven, and Day at One o' c l oc k, and Night at Eleven o'clock, to the Moseley Arms and Star inns. Holyhead (Hibernia), every Day at One, (the only convey ance which does not sleep at Shrewsbury), to Moran's Hotel. Liverpool Post Coaches, every Day at Eleven and half-past Twelve o'clock, to the Saracen's Head, Dale-street. Hereford, Hay, Brecon, and Carmarthen Post Coach every Night at Nine. , Coaches to Woodstock, Faringdon, Slough, Witney, Glou cester, Chester, Wolverhampton, Shiffnai, Stafford, Stone, Newcastle, Uttoxeter, Burton, D er by, and to all parts of the kingdom, daily. N. R. A Post Coach to London at any hour, to accom modate a party. R. COSTAR, C. WADDELL, AND CO. PROPRIETORS. The Proprietors will not - resporesble for the loss or damage of any package, should the whole value thereof exceed the sum. of Five Pounds, unless the same be specified, and an insur ance paid over and above the common carriage, when delivered to their Agents at the above Inn, and in the different parts Of the Kingdom. PARLIAMENT, HOUSE OF LORDS, TUESDAY, Fun. 8. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY presented a petition from Newton Abbott and Newton Bushel, in Devonshire, against the duty on coals carried coastwise. Their Lordships proc':,-ded to ballot for fixing the order in which Peers are 'to attend to hear appeals. IRISII• ASSOCIATIONS. After the reading of the Order of the Day— The Marquis of LA NSDOWN rose, and said—" My Lords, I rise, pursuant to a notice I yesterday gave your Lordships, to move—' That an humble Address be presented to his Majesty, praying that his Majesty will be graciously pleased to order that there be laid before this house copies of all dispatches made by the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland relative to the origin, progress, and natureof the Religious and Political Societies of that country, and their consequences.'—l am induced to obtrude upon the House on this occasion, because I cannot reconcile the assertion that has been put into his Majesty's mouth, and that we have. heard in the Speech delivered from the Throne, that outrages in Ireland have in a great degree ceased, and that she is now participating. in the general prosperity '•' with the extraordinary communications annexed to it, that there exists in . that coun try Associations whicli have adopted proceedings irreconcilable with the Constitution, and calculated by exciting alarm, and by exasperating animosities, to endanger the peace of society, and to retard the course of national improvement;' followed by a recommendation to the Legislature to adopt, without delay, some mean's to remedy this evil. I also rise in consequence of the observations of the Noble Earl. oppesite, in answer to a question I yesterday put to him, which conveyed a refusal to laybefore the House the documents that have been received on this subject ; and I feel that, combining all these circumstances, the House is placed in a situation quite singular.—l might almost say unprecedented. Unprecedented, because, as far as my recollection serves; I do not remember a single instance in which, even in a time of war, and when war surrounded us with dangers on every side, the House was called upon to in terfere with the liberties of • the people, before a Committee of Inquiry had been appointed, and before the production of documents which must show the necessity for so interfering. Be it recollected that this proposition does not respect any particular class of his Majesty's subjects, but professes to embrace all—to bring all into a situation in which they are not now placed ac cording to the law on the subject. There certainly does not ap pear to be any distinction to be made between this country and Ireland. It is made evident that the proceedings of the Society to which I have referred, whether or not those proceedings be strictly legal, have imposed on his Majesty's Government the necessity of making inquiries into the subject : but the House is called upon even without any inquiry.: if I'd° not succeed in the motion I bring before the notice of your Lordships, the House is called - upon, without knowing any thing of the evil, to provide a remedy for it, to prevent the danker when no dan ger is to be apprehended—when we are not only free from dan ger, but when the period is one of increasing tranquillity-- when there is no fear for the future, and when there is none existing in the present—when all parties unanimously join in praising the tranquil state of that country—when it is asserted this extraordinary necessity exists. This tranquillity has been accounted for in different ways by the various parties concern . ed: - The'Cathelic Association say it is owing to their exertions that - tire . Present peace of the country is so nianifest. The friends• of the Loid Lieutenant say, and perhaps they say justly, that it is - owing to. his continued carer The friends of his Majesty's Ministers say that•it is owing to the rigorous measures which (hiring the last few years they have carried through Parliament; and perhaps the Gentlemen of the other House may say, that it is to the many amendments they have introduced into those measures that we owe the peace of the country and its ha - lip,' consequences. However different those opinions may be as to the cause, all parties and persons are agreed in the fact, that theie is not in Ireland any body of persons willing to disturb , ' the public peace,,or, what will answer my argument:equally' well, able to do so. Is this the nioment then for us to tell the public that we are under the necessity, even without inquiry, to create new limitatimis to, and net* restrictions on, the liberty, of the subject, without giving time to ascertain the danger against which we are called upon to provide? But persons have told us that this inquiry is unnessary, because of the notoriety of the facts. 1 must confess that - if at any one moment, or on any one subject, I ever thought it wrong to use this right •of notoriety, 1 do now think it wrong, because on this subject. persons are so likely to be misinformed, and to be in error. A circumstance has occurred relative to the proceedings of this very Catholic Association, and it has occurred within a few weeks, which bears me out in the observation I have made. Tire persons who were in error are not those of this country, whose information must have been necessarily limited; but they are the actual Law Officers of Ireland ; able men—who are all well known to be so ; yet so completely were they mis intornied as to what took place in that Association; that they were induced to go to the tribunal of the country; and prefer a charge against an individual for uttering seditious expressions. But what- was the consequence ? So little were they prepared with their statement and their, "evidences, that when the Mat ter came to be investigated —not by a petty Jury, but by a grand jury—they were not borne out in their charges against • this Member of the Association: It is impossible not to per ceive that if they had been well informed of what had actually taken place, they would not have gone before a grand jury, and subjected themselves to such a defeat. There is a great ten dency in Ireland, among all parties, to exaggerate whatever takes place in .that Association, and men may easily be misled by their feelings to misinterpret the words uttered there. I will say to your .Lordships, that those exaggerated reports—the vague statements you may h ave h ear d, • an d the newspaper ac counts you may have read, should not induce your Lordships to engage in so very delicate—l may say so very difficult—a task, as the resolution to attack the liberties or the pursuits of . the people, and the rights they possess under the laws of Eng land. I ask your Lordships to agree and to be satisfied on these points. Its the first instance you should satisfy yourselves as • to the existence of the great evil you are called upon to correct in the second place as to the nature of this evil ; and in the third place, and above all, you should satisfy yourselves, that in extinguishing this evil, or in attempting to extinguish it, you do not create another, and a far greater evil than the one you are attempting to put down.—(Hear, hear !)=To be satisfied on each of these points, you must require the dispatches that have been made by the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland on the sub ject. When you consider how difficult it will be to provide a remedy, you must consider how necessary it is that you should receive information from those who have the best opportuni ties of .knowing what the evil is, and how far it extends. The information that should be laid before your Lordships, should be taken from the mouths of those persons whose more especial duty and interest it is to attend to the matter. You are about to engage in a task, of which, I think, even with information, but I ant sure without it, although you may see the commencement, no man can tell what will be the end.— (Hear, hear !)—The Noble Lord on the Woolsack, I say the Noble Lord on the Woolsack, because every man must know under whose auspices the Bill will be introduced, and must be quite certain that so delicate and precious a piece of work manship as I will'show it to be, can be placed in no other hands but his. I say that Noble and Learned Lord will require all his ingenuity, and no man can rate that ingenuity higher than I do, to perform the task. if the object of the Bill be to extinguish the Catholic Association.—.the Catholic Rent of Ire laird as it is called, 1 ask if' the Noble and , Leerned Lord can do this without destroying the ordinary relations of society ? Can he prevent people of any description from enjoying the confidence which others are willing to confide in them ? If they be willing to receive money which others are ready to give, can he prevent this? Is he able to intercept opinions between one man's mouth and another man's heart ? Can he prevent one person from putting in his pocket that which another per son hands to him ? If he cannot do this, he can do nothing and if he does do it he will do worse than nothing, because he will engage in what I will call a legislative conflict. But I will endeavour to shew.youe Lordships, because it is important to consider the difficulties, what those difficulties are. I presume, indeed, from whati know, from what passed in this House on another occasion, that the Noble Earl who is anxious to bring this Bill through this and the other House, will tell yOur Lord ships, that it is not to be a substantive Bill, but an amendment of the Convention Act. But there hi this difference between them, and your Lordships will do well to consider it : the Con vention Act touches on tangible objects, but this bill touch es ' 014 objects that are not tangible. This bill relates to delegations: I will not trouble your Lordships with any observations as to whether delegations be or be not injurious to society : but I . knOw, that under different circumstances they may be service thought that delega tions that try some has rn men—anti .those men are among produced—have service able e b ; es a i n t c i l l Lions in times of grievance are the better methods of obtaining redress. I might, among others, quote the name of my learned Friend who the other day moved the Address, who has deliver ed his opinion, that delegations were not only a harmless but a useful mode. of repairing public grievances. I will 'admit that it was a tangible point in 'the law on which to act, when oaths were administered in Ireland ; it might be then fairly said, we will not admit oaths to be administered in this form, as they - are calculated to disturb the public- peace; but - When I see in the Catholic .Association no outward forms attended to—no pro ceeding take pi* to whiCh there. can be any rational objection, I ask what, in putting down this Association, will you have done more than to get rid of words, and words only? You • may object to . the words Catholic As soc i at i on —C at h o li c Rent— and the word Rent I admit to be a very disagreeable one—but what will you have done when you have gotten rid of them ? I remember that some years ago, when a certain Noble Lord was the Irish Secretary ; he exerted himself to put down what was •.then called the Catholic Committee, and in a short time this Catholic Committee was no more heard of. It is now the Catholic Association ; and the Noble Earl may, perhaps, exert himself as successfully to get rid of the words Association and Rent; but the question is, will not the people still pay that rent ? Several of' my Noble Friends, who have filled offices in Ireland; mast be aware how difficult it is to make theirish pay any thing. With this feeling the taxes have been, in a great degree, removed from them ; but I know that they will find it much more difficult to prevent them from paying, especially when they are deterred front it by Acts which they dislike. I have heard that many have found it difficult to get money into their pockets in opposition to the law, but I have never heard that any have found any difficulty in getting it out, whatev,r law may have existed to prevent them. I will tell the Noble Lords what I think they may be able to do, although they will not make the rent less, they may make it more. I remtember the story of a French poet—M. Piron I think it is —who, on the night before his volume of poems came out, went to a frieed, and said to him—" Pray go to the academy, and say that you I think my verses detestable. Let them condemn them, and I shall be sure to sell the whole edition." For my .part, if I were al lowed a poundage on this Catholic Rent, r would say, when the Parliament bad met, " this Catholic Rent is a terrible thing." I would endeavour to get the Parliament to discountenance it, because I should then be sure to increase my • profits. It I is certain that when an alarm has been excited, exertions would proportionally increase, and with them a determination to carry resolutions, although privately, into effect. I say again, that your Lordships may get rid of the name "Catholic Rent," but I repeat that you will do nothing more. I . know story relative to Ireland, which, although a som e wh a t l u di crous one, was not without its application to the present question, and which would show how ignorant our ancestors were OA all .subjects which concerned that country. In a remote part of Ireland, where disturbances and outrages were too frequent, about the time of the reign of Henry VIII., the Irish were in the habit of exciting themselves by calling out—" Butler-a-boo," -boo," and " Crom-a-boo." Th e w i se p ersons who were in that day Governors of Ireland, wrote over to this country ac counts that those two words were the cause of all the mischief and all the outrages, and that 'they must therefore be put down. The .Cabinet consequently met on the subject; his , tory does not say whether or not th ere was a di v i sion on t h e question, but it is certain that they came to t h e reso l ut i on of putting lown those two words, " Butler-a-boo" and " Crom ! a-boo ;" and they resolved also th a t t h e wor d s s h ou ld b e abo lished from the Irish language. As they had, however, some feelings of humanity, and as they knew that the Irish must L have some cry, they ordained that they might be in future per t mitted to cry out " St. George ;" but that if they cried either ." Butler-a-boo" or " Crom-a-boo," they were to bepunished. 1 - do not know whether they afterwards cried the one word or 'the other, but I know that they continued to commit as much 1 violence and as many outrages. as before. I do not mean to compare the Catholic Association with those barbarians, nor do . I mean to make any comparison of those legislators with the framers of our modern la ws ; b u t I know that' they have been equally railing at words, and words alone. Your Lord . ships must calculate the consequences of the measures it is intended to 'propose before you adopt them, because - you will not be able to say " if we fail we fail, and simply leave things as they. were • before." Would not • the person to. whom I have alluded be as able, if lie had the will . to do it, to do as much mischief after as before he had been. brought • into the Court of Dublin ? I hope it is unnecessary for me to say that, in thus troubling your Lordships, I- have not sought, nor have I thought it necessary to seek, for an opportu . tunny of apologising for the proceedings of the Catholic Associa tion. With respect, however, to that body, although after what 1 have said, I must be of opinion that I have no right to judge of them from the reports 1 have received, I have no objection to say that, if those reports be true, 1 have seen much in their conduct and proceedings of which 1 must disappr,ver but I must add, that I cannot conceive any large body. 'of people, more especially of people labouring under grievances, -realor ima ginary, and deprived of what we P r ot es t an t s call religious rights, whO are capable of carrying on debates without some times introducing blameable mafter, without saying told doing much which I; and all persons looking at the sabject - as I do, must entirely' disapprove.. But if I disapprove of mu h, I also know - that - of.' many of their proceedings I approve highly ; and I therefore think it would be unwise to put them down, even if it were possible to extinguish their proceedings; which undoubtedly had their birth in the feelings of the country. I know that there exists a feeling in the mind of every man, arising out •of his degraded state in society, if such be his situation; which it is impossible for. the l.egisiature of the - country to take hold of. and which no rational man would at tack, becaiise it must elude his grasp. If such be the case of a single member of society, how much more must if be so of large body. I have always thought it better for all parties that, ins country divided by religious and political dissensions, the people should find an opportunity of expressing themselves openly to the rest of the community, and of stating their grievances, whether founded or ill-founded, in ataOPen and public manner, anti neither in secret nor confined, resembling - in this re s p ec t th ose . unhealthy vapours which only rema i ne d unhealthy and mischievous so long as they were prevented from rising, but which, the moment they were allowed to mix with the pure air, lost at once their mischief and their nature. But the specific grounds on which my mction rests are these : that when we are called upon to provide a remedy for an evil, and especially when we are called upon to do so by the Speech from the Throne, it is but right for us to inquire what this evil is ; it is imperative that- we know against what evil'we are called upon to provide a remedy, and to know it tiOns those whose duty it is to take the dimensions of it. If we have not this information we are not competent to judge of the evil, and therefore we are unable to consider of a remedy, which I think it would be perhaps almost hopeless, but which would.be, at all events, difficult to' provide. On these grounds. I nioVe your Lordships, that an humble Address be presented to his Ma jesty, Praying that his Majesty will be graciously pleased to order copies of all dispatches made by the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, relative to the origin, progress, and nature of the Reli gious and Political Societies in that country. • - The Earl of LIVE It POOL—My Lords, when any "Noble Lord rises upon any subject, he may as well know what is the subject upon which lie means to address the House; and when any individual rises to 'make a pioticn upon any paitieular prospective proceeding, he might as well wait, when a few days 'must explain what the nature of the intended proceeding is. It is true, that in the Speech which yOur Lordships have heard from- the Throne, his ,Majesty, after congratulating your Lord.. ships and the country upon the national prosperity in which Ireland participates, alludes to, the existence of associations in that country, which have been productive of the worst conse_ further recommends you what t q o u e c n o c n e s s ider l t w i L " re t m ha ed t y hi m s l ay laj b e e sty applied to correct this evil, and prevent these ill effects ; and it is true that an Address has been carried up, in which your Lordships reply that you will consider the mewls - of applying a remedy to the evil. • There the matter rests. The Noble Lord knows, or .he might by the •votes of the House, that it is the intention of biapi e t ' c ; •jesty's Government to introduce some' measure appl) d e d c tle coo the evil, which your Lordships were recommended that Mee sider, but he might have, waited' to know and object, of widen, judging t'rom his that no attempt sure was 'he might haVe waited to learn completely ignorant. The Noble Lord has nwhletsse:Mb4sttealt. e - s ubject without in ahould be made to abridge the liberty e b- , e tio 'l bie Lord if the.'ltonse the House. :I would agree with ro Did id quirt'—without information having bpW which he of 'general twitofiety ; to act. Theee grounds, however, founded upon facts, - kti;*n to ( _ ,°f upon the ta - Me 'of be to any MeMber of his iltajty's ofL oirndforamcia. every Noble Lord, as well ai Lori} h a d, hiniself, acted- tiiitan this Government. 'Cho SQ.ble I shall refer. Two yea' to w hic h . .11.pgO, principle at a perm( introducedslid the for the suppression itir the p n r o o t p k o n se o d w rfi th e e asu g r r e o . t n en ,6 , upon ti" v'hicli they were calk-47,11pm when measures were .dh the house act ? P 7 as t k e a N tit o t b le le Orange Societies,