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tai i ,,l7l Chur c h, an d if such questions continued to be enter be rend . a nd supported in that House, such a resistance would 1, raised up on the part of the people of England as would. be Wholly , irresistible. He was happy to say that what he had heard that . night w . as auspicious . , and he did not say that the of the gra ation which the question had made in the favour People of England was irrecoverable. He did not say chat th e attempt ought not to be made, and he should . now etd; upon it with f ar better hope. It was as strong!) , his ° P i nion as it was t h at of any man who heard him, that until the t4ith o li cs were let into a participation of the Constitution — until the question was carried to the full extent proposed by ,ar• Graham —he would not say much ' not be done g°°d migh t. But they 'est Ireland, but the work would not be fini . shet n w ere asked, how could the question be carried by a divided '"erotnent ? This was not a problem of to-day—it was a Prohlein of the last twenty-five years. Not one Cabinet had te§ted during that time which was not divided upon the ques 'm ; and he defied the lion. Baronet to point out any one year °, l ' Month of that period at which a Cabinet existed on either 3 ," 1, the House to whom all he had said would not apply as `sash as to the present Government. The Right Hon. Gentle ts'lari then recounted the divisions in the Cabinets of which Lord Jdrnouth, Mr. Pitt, and Lord Grenville and Mr. Fox, were Zrheads, and said lie thought it rather hard that all tlietau t n he s sth e kept for the year 1825, when amongst the friends of In er aide a division had absolutely been created and erected Then Cabinet Cabinet of Mr. Fox, when it did not naturally occur. A llen came the Administration of the Duke of Portland, when the same obstacle existed. He venerated that .obstacle, and , hild i ' p rb-Y say that he had been taught to respect and act il r' ( " li t h eY Mr. Pitt. His conducthad ever.been the same widi 'Ord to whether in Or out of office. He resisted the Ca tholic claims ill 1 81 t in compliance with it in 1808 when in office ; and —' wh en out of office, he resisted them upon the same '?unds• I n t h e year 1812, the removal of the Regency re anic Ition s h aving taken place, he considered that event to . form liey el et ? . - tantamount to a new reign, and the obstacle was re ?landfound Grattan then brought forward his motion, and he that the event which he considered had set him free l P° '' the question, had not, in the minds of the Government, i e i t s them free also. Upon that, he made his declaration and took Li bil e; and then for the first time he voted for the Catholics. _Pon the d eath of /11r. Percival, an offer was made to him to e 2ule into office. H e replied, by asking whether the Govern tTe.l,l.t continued in the same determination respecting the cia s.nt Claim s ; he was told they, did, and lie refused office. -tie would ask, then, what right the Hon. Baronet had to doubt his inte grityCheers.)--and to affect to try his conduct 7 the vulgar test of in and out ? He had previously gone wi t i () ugh all the ungracious labour of defending the Spanish war, ~,, en few ventured to hope hut himself, and here was an op 'PltunitY of coming into office again when all the glorious re ita he had foreseen were beginning to be realized, and when lie might have reaped the fruits of the harvest he had sown.— Z f he refused; and he would ask any man possessing the ulgs of an English Gentleman, whether this conduct display , a want of integrity or note-41Iear, hear !)—The Right Hon. li'leerulernan then alluded to the agency in forming the Govern ment of the Marquis Wellesley and Lord Liverpool, in now ch the Catholic Question was placed upon the footing it toheld in the present Cabinet. He disdained the charge that w " wanting in integrity. There was no want of integrity te might be want of wisdom, if there would—the course he no pled mi g h t be open to dispute, to refutation ; but it had tiePitiul, sordid motive, of getting into or maintaining office. lu t il g e xt came to the first motion which lie submitied to the tl eseo e ', uhon the subject of the Catholic Claims. Lord q t s.. by a g d .ably supported him in that motion, and it was carried after they'PaJorit of 120. The same motion was made a few days Za l ,._ In House of Peers by Lord Wellesley, and it was lost e majority of one—the numbers being 126 to 125. Those gitTatuthe halcyon days of the Catholic Question, and he should tiffs w Y see them return. To the Government under which acuity s achieved he afterwards acceded. But he had no dif were j u tracing the particular hostility with which his acts we viewed by some Honourable Gentleman opposite. He tot,perfeerly aware that he had rendered himself obnoxious s te` Llem s , by opp os i ng to the best of his ability, and with some t ie( 3 a. cetera favourite measures which they proposed.— with hi; secretary Canning) declared, that rather than dispute met upon the . Catholic Claims he would have left honour life gave up his feelings on that occasion to a sense , and decorum ; but that was not the only sacrifice 11,e.made. One great object of his ambition was beyond every t ullig in his desires. His wish was to have re presenting the honour of the University of Oxford. He had every chance of success in pursuit of that object, when the discussion on the Catholic Question took place. He was then foiled in his chance, it was the greatest disappointment he had ever met. All the gifts . of fortune in his estimation were as nothing, compared with the possession of that honour. His heart was r f e oe .e . On it. she representation of the University of Ox rdr4itn,tu h.etter hands, and his hope was, that his Right ~.:,, ens! might long honour it. He could tell the House t",`T. greatsincenty, that he lost it by his attachment to the Ca 11T Question. Returning however to the main subject be e'''' .yhe House, he (Mr. Secretary Carmine.) expressed his belief m tr ett ed froM the best information, that there was in this coun 4,ftegreat mass of the people inert to the Catholic Question, p ec e!i must be met by a gradual spirit of conciliahon. The soLf_ttetyrould not be forced to an agreement on that important appears , Nothing could retard its progress Tore than the I,4 Bl nce of a Government league to carry it.. If it were effort e . to find a Cabinet united on that question, and .an prop er veere made to carry it through Parliament, at an im le, Per time, their object would not he attained—a flame would tai r.insed in the country. if the Catholic Question was to be o rt u ed at all, it must be gained by cool discussion in , that t an , ,• That was the safest and best way. He (Mr. Seere seill'atming) thought the Cabinet could not be forced upon th e ,ft 9nestion ; and he took it to be no mean proof that th at 'pbinet was as good as it could he, when it was known ea ~i9r t wenty-five years no Cabinet ' had agreed upon the i Peetien s `Mkt Yof bringing forward that question. It had been he tits e ed, however, to him that he was blameable because nti_eu possessed the means'of trying the experiment against said dre p o s ses sed 001eni...“ I.would,rather quit office to-morrow," thel; the Right Honourable Secretrary, " and lose the Ca m,. 'e tiuestion, than, on coming into - the Government, turn i i ,;,Ud and change the footing on which I stand." He was at i t rY to quit office and move the Catholic Question, or move tilli;tiotffihece. He would do either, but would not pleege himself subject to any one. It was a great question of policy e4uling on his view of the state of the country and the spirit fo e times. He should consider whether the time was right thrAthe i ntroduction of a such a question. Other hearings of n ot subject would come s under his consideration and he would fb,..ll‘)e taunted out of his course. The. Honourable Member t ' ledhurst in terms certainly very friendly, had desired him 0 ° take the course of bringing forward the Catholic Claims as Ti 4 as possible even at therisk of breaking up the Cabinet. a lat on. Member ber had also been pleased to ask it he had no inuthition to acquire popularity. He thought there were feel- Ile w hich ought to govern the desire 'to acquire popularity. sh ould say, in the beautiful language of Dryden:— " I can behold her while a wife ; But while she's passing on the wind, • The I puff the prostitute away." , t ti, Right Hon. Sec re t ar y sa id h e wou ld not se e k popularity 1)0i. peula,itp y ence of his o pi nion an d cons i s t enc y. The road to d e 1u was the road h e was th en t a ki ng . He should avoid t xtreines of danger, and steer • In medio tutissimus ibis. thiethwas desirous, at the proper season, of promoting the cause timc e Roman Catholics—not for their sake only, • but for -the th ol e ; of the whole country. He thought concession to the Ca se,cs, when the proper opportunity offered, would bring a bet therler of things. He was cured of folly in . bririguaeforward Of thCatholic °W ins at an improper tine," by the result i R I e efforts made in 180, when tlie Bill was thrown out, and a, NossP by the Whigi: The ROit - I - IML'Secretary 'concluded ( , ech o eloquent speech' by (Assaying', that whilst the Roman trey °lie Association' remained undissolved, the Bill to be in teced to the Howie would produce the most beneficial con cheering, He ne (Mr. Secretary Canning) satdownamidst loud illy '' , th e e s * BROUGHAM rose.' Some moments elapsed before at 4401 1ge was silent. Ile assured the House that 'in . rising ... tlie close of a very . long protracted debate, he felt most attention to compresa his observatiOns.: . Ile Wished to call the Itittention of the House to the Main point of argument, and ei re fore he sh ou ld grapple with the question strippingitof t 4 ,t; tbe extraneous matter, and those personal topes which e u e u e uhl not be introduced to Irish affairs. 'He al a defender ts'eunq advocate of the Catholic Association. He should con d for the right of the Roman Catholics to meet, deliberate, rei n ,- Spe, ustnite, and demand those ,privileges which belonged t h o .Constitution. His hope was, that his opinion would reac Ireland, 'Whilst they deliberated and remonstrated with due re gard for the laws, they acted legally. Witho u t bli n ki ng th e T, i estion, h e should admit the Catholic Association had faults. the saithat not for the purpose of gaining popularity; which `)..e Wald eady to give to the wind, like the Right Honourable kileatleman. He might ask what were the faults and charges a gainst the Catholic Association. lt was said, that so far from ntl,g the safety valve in the heated apparatus . working in Ire aL,i.o,, they were the cause of danger to the Irish Government. 11 about a Committee of Inquiry, or a green bag full of papers, his 'Majesty's Government; contrary to the usual practice, were preparing a law to abridge the liberty of the people of Ireland. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman then examined. the charges made against the Catholic Association, and ad '•eerted to the prosecutions in which the parties were acquitted. Ile (Mr. Brougham) drew an inference from information he lied received from the leading Counsel in those prosecutions, that justice had not been done. In the accounts they had re. ce iveti of both these transactions, there had been an ex- traordinary omission of the name of the Judge who tried. the accused. The Judge, Mr. Baron INl`Clelland, had refused to permit an important question to be put to one of the wit nesses. Should he be told, after this, bythe Hon. Members on the opposite side of the House that justice was administered with an even hand. Law might be had in Ireland by the rich. It was like the London Tavern, open to all who had money, but according to the statement of a Noble and Learned Lord (Re desdale) there was one law for the poor anti another for the rich. NiTith respect to the Association it was a farce to say that they were as bad as tho Bridge-street gang. He knew how to quiet these persons. The paper in which the words were used, " by the hate you bear Orangemen," conveyed nothing more than a natural expression of d►slike to an adverse party. The Catholics were to be put down by the Orangemen. That circumstance naturally occasioned expressions not uttered in the smoothest strain. An Hon. Member in that House had said that night, if Ire was on his death-bed he should wish the Ca tholics to succeed. That was a strong expression. A Right Honourable Gentleman had said he loved his connections, but if the independence of his country was in question, he would fling away connections and hug his country to his bosom. This was said by an honest Irishman, but it was too strong. The Hon. Gentleman was shewing his independence, but were he to follow up his threat he would be a rebel. These things proved that words were dropped in debate which could not be justified. Mr. Brougham then adverted to the Rent, and contended that the Catholic Association in raising money had only followed the example of the British !Methodists, He produced a book containing minutes of proceeding in that Society, and it appeared that they . had a Secretary for a Com mittee of Privileges.—(A laugh.) —The Catholic Association did nothing equal to this. What was right in England, was right in Ireland. Having gone through all the charges against the Catholic Association, he adverted to the conduct of the Priests. He considered the Clergy the means of preserving the peace. Before he sat down he wished to say a few words on Catholic Emancipation. The Right Hon. Secretary had defended himself on the charge of sitting in a divided Cabinet. He could not; however, avoid feeling that the Right Hon. Gentleman might have been the means of bringing on the ques tion. The charge he brought against the Right Honourable Secretary was this. Notwithstanding the service be might have done the Catholics, he had injured them by raising the cry of No Popery.. Thank God ! said the Honourable and Learned Gentleman the attempt has failed. Amongst all the great things he hail studied under his great master, Mr. Pitt (of whom Mr. Windham wittily said, he believed he could speak a King's speech offhand), he had acquired the art of using the Catholic Question to his advantage. The Right Honourable Secretary, with respect to the Catholics, might be compared to Sir Ben jainin Backbite, who said—" I like such a person, but I cannot get any other to agree with me in liking him."— (A laugh.) e —The Right Hon. Gentleman could not get the Whigs to aeree with him in regard for the Catholics. In 1007, when the Whigs were turned out on the cry of No Popery," London and Westminster took no share in that cry. In York shire the Catholics were not opposed. The people of Eng land did not join in the cry--;and that proved that they were not hostile to the Roman Catholic Claims. In some cases of popular feeling the government had paid but little regard to existing circumstances. In the prosecution against the Queen no attention was paid to public feeling. The Government never paused one instant in that disgusting course. Subser viency and baseness upon that occasion were remarkable.— The Members of a Russian Cabinet, that of a Ferdinand the Seventh, or the slaves of Algiers with the bow-string twanging in their, ears, never were more devoted. They disregarded the public voice, and promoted an odious prosecution. If he wanted any argument in favour of the Catholic Claims he found it in the speech of the Attorney-General, for. Ireland, who said he supported the Bill, because the Catholic Question was not ceded. Mr. PLUNKETT explained. He did not say granting the Catholic Question would remove the necessity for the Mr. BROUGHAM concluded by recommending the people of Ireland to persevere in their endeavours for redress of griev ances, avoiding a breach of the law, and they would ultimately obtain their object. Amidst loud cries of " Question," Mr. BUTTERWORTH rose to address the House for the purpose, as well as we could gather his meaning in the noise which prevailed, of contradict ing some of the statements of Mr. Brougham respecting the Me thodist Conference.—(Loud laughter and coughing, and cries of " Question," and " Go on," effectually prevented any part of the Hon. Member's speech from being beard in the gallery.— Some minutes were consumed in this manner, during which the Hon. Member still kept his place ; at length, during one of the causes, we ascertained that he was reading a state ment that some Protestants in Ireland had suffered_ great lossts of business in consequence of their having refused to subscribe to the Catholic rent. Cries of " Name," and " Place," were heard, when the Hon. Member said the place he alluded to was in the county of Kilkenny ; he was then asked te‘ wattle the exact place in the county, but this he begged to be excused froth doing. After some further ineffectual attempts to proceed, lie Sat down.) Mr. GOULBURN then rose to reply. Ile had been.charged with having made a false statement respecting two transactions' which he had alluded to in his speech. He mentioned them, to show the ground upon which he disapproved of the principle of the Catholic Association, which, contrary to the old maxim of ' English jurisprudence, presumed 'people's guilt before they were tried. He was, however, charged with having misrepre sented one of these, because he had not stated that Mr. Black burn, the Judge before whom that trial was had, had compli mented Mr. O'Gorman for his conduct in the prosecution. He had said nothing against Mr. O'Gorman ; and his conduct, whatever it had been, did not alter the proceeding against which he bad objected. Sir J. M CKINTOSH said he complained only of the Right Hon. Gentleman's having concealed that fact. Mr. GOULBURN resumed. The Hon_ and Learned Gen tleman, thought it was a fact unnecessary to be stated, that the Counsel for the prosecution had conducted himself well.— (Hear !)—The House should, however. hear Mr. Blackburn's report of that trial. He said—" A trial of unusual interest has been held before me, in which a soldie r w as c h arge d with hav ing administered illegal oaths. It lasted seven hours, anti at the conclusion of it the man was acquitted by the unanimous verdjct of 43 Magistrates who were present.—(Hear, hear !) I regret to say that the evidence for the prosecution appeared to be a foul conspiracy, to accuse and criminate the soldier, and that the most abominable means were resorted to for effect ing the object of the conspiracy."—(Cheers.)—lf any gentle man had before this supposed that he (Mr. Goulburn) had given any colour to this case, he asked them now to acqUit him, on the evidence of Mr. Blackburn's report.--(Hear, hear !) With respect to the other case alluded to by the Hon. and Learned Member for Winchelsea, he did not know from what source it was that the Hon. and. Learned Gentleman obtained his information. He asserted that the Counsel had not been allowed to put a question to a witness, in consequence of which the prisoners was acquitted. Mr. BROUGHAM said he had it from the leading Counsel on that prosecution, who was himself a Protestant. Mr. GOULBURN said it was impossible to answer such assertions ofd hand ; but he doubted the fact altogether—first, on account of the well-known character of the Judge ; and se condly, because there had been no notice taken of it—no allusion to it; even in any proceedings of the Catholic Association, although six months had now elapsed since the trial. He would not detain the House any longer, nor would he have said so much at that hour, but ror the purpose •of removing the Un founded imputation which had been cast upon bim. Mr. V. FITZGERALD said, that he was present at the trial of the soldier, and could state that there was no division of sentiment amongst the Magistrates as to the innocence of the party. The House then divided—the numbers were— For the Motion - - - 278 Against it - 123 Majority - - ----155 The Billfe i ls then brought in, and read a first time. After a short conversation between Mr. BROUGHAM and Mr. PEEL, the second reading of the Bill was fixed for Monday. Mr. BROUGHAM postponed hie motion for a call of the House to Monday. The House adjourned at FOUR O'CLOCK this morning. KING'S BENCH.—Yesterday an action was tried REYNOLDS V. WELSH : the former an engraver, the latter a musical composer. The ground of the action was as follows :—lt was stated for the plaintiff that he was to have the engraving of a Portrait of KLAN, the Actor, painted by Mr. CLINT, if the plaintiff could induce the Actor to sit. Ile did so, but when the Picture was finish ed the defendant disavowed having given more than a conditional promise, that if the Picture should be engraved at all, the plaintiff should be employed. The Jury, after the examination of several witnesses, found for the plaintiff.—Da mages, 150 guineas. A Paris Paper states, that there is more ver dure in a young chesnut tree in the Tuileries at present, than is usually the case in spring. At L e i gn itz, several apple trees are in full blow. PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS. lIOCSE OF COMitIONS. Martis, 15 0 die Februarii, 1825. ROADS—Derby and Uttoxeter, Hinckley, and Cainscr6ss and Minchinhampton —Bills read a second time, and committed. Gravesend, and Cheltenham—Petitions for Bills referred to • Select Committee on Standing Orders. Woodstock and Kid dington; Flimwell Vent and Rye, Dunstable and Windsor, Princes Risborough, Nottingham and Newhaven, Eccleshill and Bradford, Leeds and Tong Lane.end, Vork, and King ston and Leatherhead—Petitions for Bills referred to Com mittees. Wivelistombe, Kirkby Stephen and Hawes; 13o roughbridge and Catherick, and. Amesbury—Bills ordered. Winteburn and I)unse, Greenlaw, Brighouse, and Stock port—Bills read a first time. IMPROVEMENT—Derby, Godalming, Leek, and Edinburgh TI THES—Cockerham BRISTOL TOWN DUES Petitions 'for Bills referred to Com mittees. BILMGE s—Kingston CANAL—Gloucester and Berkeley PAvlNG—Banbury—Petition for Bill refer - red to a Committee. Stroud—Bill read a second time, and committed. INcLosuxl•;n—liton (Bucks), East Santon (Lincoln), Dod dington (Cambridge), and Clanfield (Oxford)—Bills ordered. Doc KS—St. Katharine's—Petitions from London, Newcastle, and Sunderland, in favour—to lie on the table. South Lon don—Petition for Bill referred to a Committee. Dual NAGE —Ancholme—Petition for'Bill referred to a Com mittee. Eau Brink—Bill ordered. NAviGAT I ox—Portanurath and Arundel—Petition for Bill referred to a Committee. Calder and llebble—Bill ordered. Co x PAN Y—Alliance Marine Assurance—Bill read a first time. GAS LlGHT—Glasgow, and BirMingham (Petition from Wal sall, against, referred to the. Committee on the read a second time, and committed. Glasgow Oil and Coal —Petition for Bill referred to a' Committee. CHURCHES —Poole—Petition referred to Select Committee on Standing Orders. St. Andrew's (Holborn) —Petition for Bill, stating that Standing Orders have not, been complied with, referred to Select Committee on Standing Orders. Po OR—MOntgarriery aM -Pool—Bill- ordered. Shrewsbury--- Petition for Bill referred to a Committe. \VA•rc n.wo IRlS—Ashton-under-Lyne—Bill ordered. Lime rick—Petition for Bill, stating that Statrding Orders have not been complied with, referred to Select Committee on Stand ing Orders. RAILWAYS --Edinburgh and Dalkeith—Petition for Bill re ferred to a Committee. Kelso, Melrose, and Dalkeith—Pe tition for Bill, stating that the Standing Orders have not been complied with,. referred to the COmmittee on Standing Orders. NoTARIEs PiTnLic—Petitions to repeal the Duties on Li cences to act as—from Elgin and Forres, and Aberdeen—to lie on the table. Rom AN CATHOLIC A ssoolATlo cr.mplaining of their proceedings, from Archdeaconry of Bath and Wells, and Bath—to lie: on the table. COAL DUTlES—Petitions against, from Combemartin, Ilfra combe, and Swabsea—to lie on the table. COUNTY COURTS Bir.r.,—PetitionS from Becontree and Wi tham, in favour—to lie on. the table. Bill committed to Lord Viscount Althorp, Mr.Attorney-General, Solicitor-Ge neral, Mr. It. Smith (of Lincoln), Lord Viscount Norman by, Mr. P. Corbett, Sir E. Knatchbull, Mr. Abercromby, Mr. F. Buxton, Sir G. Chetwynd, Mr. Western, Mr. G. Bennet, Sir E. Harvey, Mr. liObhonse, Mr. Leonard, Mr. Littleton, Mr. I. Lockhart, Mr..). Smith; Mr. Tennyson, Mr. Warre, and Mr. Thomas Wilson ; Instruction to in quire into the case of such persons as hod offices for life, the emoluments of which may be diminished if the said Bill paces into a law, and to report their opinion thereon to the House.. POOR REMOVAL AND SETTLEMENT—Petition of Charles Crapp, for an alteration in the Law relating•thereto—to lie - . on the table. UNLAWFUL SOCIETIES (Ireland)—Bill "to amend certain Acts relating to unlawful Societies in Ireland," read a first time, to be read a second time on Monday next, and to be printed. H o trsu—Call deferred till Monday. GLEBE LANDS-Bill "to amend and render more effectual an Act passed in the froth year of the reign of his late Majesty, for enabling Spiritual Persons to exchange their Parsonage Houses or Glebe Lands, and for other purposes therein men tioned," read a first time, to be read a second time on Fri day, and to be printed. - NOTICES OF MOTIONS FOR THIS DAY. 1. Mr. 'William Smith—Bill for granting relief to certain Dis senters, in relation to the Solemnization of Marriages. 2. Mr. Hume—Select Committee on the export of Machinery. 3. Mr. Alderman Heygate—Bill to alter and amend the Laws against Usury, and to mitigate the Penalties therein con tained.'' _ 4. Mr. Hume-Retun of the number of Britih subjects who have been banished from British India without trial since 1813. 5. Mr. Ilume—Expenditure of Ordnance voted to the Navy. 6. Mr. Chancellor of the -Exchequer—Grant of Exchequer Bills, Transfer of Aids, and Annual Duties. (In Com . mittee of Ways and M. an,;.) ORDERS OF :THE DAY FOR THIS DAY. 1. Weights and Measures Bill—Second reading. 2. Supply—Committee. 3. Ways and Means—Committee. 4. Supply—Report. NOTICES GIVEN YESTERDAY. Thursday, Feb. 17. Mr. Goulburn—Re-appointment of the Select Committee o 1 last Session on the state of Ireland. Deferred from Feb. 15. Friday, Feb. 18. •1. Mr. Dickinson Select Committee on County Rates. 2. Sir Geo. Clerk—Vote of Seamen. (In Committee of Supply.: Tuesday, Feb. 22. - - - - Sir Robert Heron—Bill to amend the Sewer Laws. Wednesday, Feb. 23. Mr. Martin (of Galway)—Bill to prevent Bear-baiting, and other cruel practices. After Easter. Mr. Western—Bill relating to the Qualification of Jurors. PRIVATE BILLS. Second Readings for this Day. Spittle Gate and Bridge-end Road Bill ; and Liverpool Im provement Bill. DAY AT ONE O'CLoCIL. PRICE OF STOCKS Tuis tock :i per Cent. Red. 94, 1 per Cent." Cons. 3A per Cent., Ditto Red. I Dissd. 4 per Lent. t New ... 105 i _ Bank Long Ann. 231 5-113ths Elul). 3 per Cents. India Stock 285 Ditto Bonds Soutit i Sea Stock Old Annuities New *Ditto E. Bills 10001. 2d. — 63 Ditto 10. 64 65 Ditto 5001. Ditto 14d. — 63 Ditto Small 2d. 63 Ditto lhd. 64 65 Ditto Commercial Bank for Act. India for Acct. Cons. for Feb. 25. * 93i PRICF.S OF FOREIGN Austrian Bds, 5 per ct. ••• 97A Brazilian Bds Scrip 1825 ... 4A pm. Buenos Ayresßds ..• 91A 2 Bds,C Kilian, 6 per ct. 89k !olornbian ds.6 per ct. ... Do. do. 182-1 Danish, 5 per cent. Greek lids Po. Scrip, 1825 IiAA pm. Mexican Bds Do. Scrip 1325 3 fl t pm. NOS, AT ONF. O'CLOCK. Neapolitan, 5 per cent. Neapolitan Scrip Peruvian Bonds Portuguese Bonds Prussian, 5 per et. Ditto New. Russian, New, 5 per et. 9i Spanish 1821, 5 per ct. 25 4 1823, ditto IBi 18 . 1 French Itentes - ----- Exchange ... —f Scrip PRICES OF SHARES AT ONE O'CLOCK. Alliance Fire and Life Assurance Company , — 18 Ditto, Marine Department Protector Fire Assurance Company Anglo-Mexican Mining Company ...... 195 120 135 125 12 An;lo-Chilian Miniu m .; Company Brazilian 31ining Company Chilian Mining Company l9 184 • Colombian Mining Company ..................... 40 37 38 3 General Mining Association ........................ 14 131 141 Pasco Peruvian Mining Company ......... 34 A 33 1 3 9 ). 33 J Rio de la Plata Mining Company Tlalpuxahua Alining Company ........... .• ..... 105 115 pm. United Mexican -Mining Company ............. l3O 135 130 Wclcli.lron and Coal Mining Company , 51 Continental Gas Company London and Northern Railway Company British Iron. Company General Steam Naviga tion Com p an y Gold Coast Association 81 i i 9 8 1 New Corn Exchange Pearl Fishery Company, Yellow Receipt Provincial Bank of Ireland HIG I WATER AT LO S DON BRID GE TO—MOR ROW. Welling, 54 minutes after I t I Evening, ),5 m i nutes a f ter 2, FOULIGN 111 AILS. Gottenburgb Varnburgh - France A unnTED. THE SUN. DUE. SALEM QUIS DICEILE FALSUM AUDEAIT LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, FE8.16, 1825. The Paris Papers of Monday arrived last night. The Monileur contains a report to the KING from the Commission appointed in June, 1824, to inquire into. the cause, and urgency of the Supplementary Credit granted in 1823, the year of the impolitic and unjust invasion of Spain. The Report confirms the charges made in the Chamber of Deputies at the time, for it states, that " the serious facts which had been deve loped inculpated several of the principal Func tionaries of the Military Administration, and seemed to authorise suspicions of corruption in some individuals of the Civil Class." It is then recommended that justice should be done, and the KING had so far attended to the recom mendation, that he had referred the whole case to the Keeper of the Seals, " to cause the laws of the kingdom to be 'executed." The Mode extracts from the Austrian Observer an article dated Constantinople, January 10, in which it is stated that ImtAitim PACIIA, after discharging •his transports, had taken a part of the Egyptian army on board his men-of-war, and landed 3,000 troops on the 20th of December at Modon in the Morea, together. with the necessary artillery. This is said to have been preceded by his recviv• ing two millions of gold piastres, which had been brought on board a French frigate, lie is then said to have sailed back to Suda iu Candia, to fetch another division of troops. The Oriental Spectator, says the Etoile, confesses that the sol diers of COLOCOTRONI had abandoned hint to join the standards of the Executive Power, and the Austrian Observer admits, in a note, that the Greek Government had subdued the insurgents. These admissions on the part of the Turkish Ad vocates leave no doubt of the accuracy of the last accounts from Zante, which stated that the Greek Government hud triumphed over its internal ene mies as gloriously as over its external foes. We extract the following article from the German Papers, received this morning : SCHWERIN, JAN. 22.—Some French Journals have an nounced that our Court had appointed an agent at Rio Jnneiro, and had consequently recognized the actual Government of that country. This assertion originates in the nomination of a Con sul to that country, in the same manner as has been done by several other States, to maintain the relations of commerce, and this nomination is doubtless the only ground of mistake. After the decision Of the House of Commons, last night, on the Catholic Association, and which may reasonably be co►isidered as the pre cursor of the eventual result, it would be pre sumptuous indeed in us to offer our opinions upon the subject. The subject has already beet: so amply debated, that " inspiration could hardly be expected to throw a new light upon it ;" but, as the matter is still to be discussed over, and over again, if it. be possible to suggest new and cogent arguments on one side or the other, such arguments will most probably be advanced. Whatever, therefore, time final event may be, both England and Ireland must be satified that the in vestigation has been proportioned to the import ance of the question, and will ultimately he de termined upon substantial grounds of wisdom, justice, and sound policy. THE NORTHERN COAL TRADE.----We are in formed that this branch of the Nursery of Sea men is likely to be greatly injured by the various Railways which are attempted to be established, and especially by the projected Railway from London to Derbyshire, as it will enable the pro prietors to supply all the towns of Nottingham shire, Lincolnshire, Cambridgeshire, Ely, Hun tingdonshire, and parts of Essex, with inland coals, to the entire exclusion of the Sea-borne coal, hitherto imported at Gainsborough, Boston, Lynn, and various other outports! In order, therefore, to avoid such mischievous effects on the Maritime interests of the country, it is to be presumed that His Majesty's Government will recommend the repeal of the Coast and Over , sea Duty on Coals ! The 12th inst. was a holiday at Paris, on ac count of the anniversary of -the death of the Duke de BERRI. The theatres and all the places of public entertainment were closed on the occasion. An article from St. Petersburgh of the 22d January states, that the Emperor of RussrA has reduced the duties on various articles, the pro duce of that country, and imposed a duty on the exportation of them, in order, as it is stated hi the Imperial Ukase, that Russian manufactured goods may be _able to bear a competition with foreign manufactures. A Frankfort Journal states, that the promo tions in the Russian Army continue, and that the Emperor of AUSTRIA has again made a numerous promotion in his Army. The Duke of YORK transacted military busi- CecEird7 Member of the busi ness with the KING yesterday. Yesterday the Princess SOPIIIA visited the Duke of Yong. Yesterday a Court of Directors was held at the East India House, when Lieutenant-General was appointed o G f . C th . e j3 Company's Forces Commander-in -Chief :10oImrdnaidaiCan,doeamnra.ccort; Council in ys.—We have reason to believe, that Bengal. it AI LWA there is not any truth whatever in the report, that His Majesty's Ministers have expressed any general or unqualified approbation of the various Railways which are now attempted to be esta blished throughout the country ; or, that they have promised to give tkem their sanction and support in Parliament. It would be altogether contrary to the rule which has hitherto influenced the Government in respect to C 4 Private Bills" — and, a departure from those principles which ought invariably to be adhered to by them in cases of this nature, PUBLIC REASONS AQAINST RAIL ROADS WITH LOCOAIOTIVE ENGINES. The projects are founded altogether on vague and capricious statements and estimates, unsupported by any real surveys of the country and calculations of expence, as proved by the va. riance between the parliamentary estimates and sections, and the statements in prospectuses. • The line of road must necessarily be so straight and direct in its course, as to render it impossible to avoid a passage through the properties of land owners, without any regard to the resi, dences of gentlemen, or the injury to be done to their estates, (as proved by parliamentary sections), while the noise and smoke are nuisances sufficient to drive land-holders from their habitations. The passage of the Locomotive Engine across turnpike roads and public highways is attended with much danger to all per sons travelling in carriages or on horseback, from the appear. ance of the machine, and the noise attending its use, audible for the distance of a quarter of a mile, but the projectors do not hesitate to propose the postage of the engine, &c, through public streets. The use of the high pressure engines, pronounced by all scientific men to be dangerous in steam-boats, is not likely to be less dangerous on land, particularly when, in order to attain a speed of more than 3i miles per'hour it is necessary not only to load, but actually to screw down the safety valve, as proved by recent experiment. The capital to be expended in providing iron for the rail roads, &c. would be extignded more beneficially for the coun. try, by converting such iron into manufactured pods ' for home use and exportation, rather than by compelling British and Foreign merchants to encourage, as is the ac tual fact, the iron trades and manufactories of France, Flan ders, &c. owing to the high price of iron in England, which must necessarily increase according to the demand. • The high price of iron during the formation of these roads, must affect injuriously, not only the manufacturers of hardware goods, but the agriculturist, the builder, and every other class of society. Eight horses of small value will draw eight boats on a canal, containing 144 tons of goods, at a speed of four miles an hour, and 200 tons of goods at a speed of three miles per hour ; but a Locomotive Engine of eight-horse power, on a rail road nearly horizontal, with every advantage of circumstance, and with the safety-valve screwed down, was only able to move 33 tons of goods eleven miles and five-eighths in 2 hours 21 minutes and 10 seconds, five-eighths of a mile being passed without any weight, an the whole distance being made up by a passage to and fro along the same space of ground, only 905ths part of a mile iniength. The immense quantity of coals necessary to be used if! mak ing the iron for these roads, and afterwards in working the Lo: comotive Engines, must increase to a great extent the con. sumption and price of that article, so essential to the cOmfort of private families, and so materially useful iu bringing manu. factured goods to perfection. The construction of rail roads, (now canals have removed from the highways the carriage of heavy goods), can only ope rate to burthen the oecupkrs of land by increase of highway le. vies and statute duty, in order to keep the turnpike roads and public highways in repair, while, in order to pay the interest on turnpike securities, heavy additional tolls must be laid on car. riages. February 14, 1825. MERCANTILE SHIPPING. DEAL, FEB. 15.—Wi1111 S. by E., light breeze.—This after noon the Hon. Company's ship Inglis, Serie, turned away, with severatof the outward-bound, and are now (4 e.ar.) round the South Foreland. The Scaleby Castle and Kent, with the Oil. , more, Columbine, Ocean, and two brigs, remain. PORTSMOUTH, FEB. 15.—Wind S.E.—Sailed the whole of the outward-bound, except the Coromandel, for India; Elila beth, for St. Domingo; and the Alder, for Pernambuco. The Prince of Orange transport has come into harbour. PLYMOUTH, Fr.s. 14.—Wind E.—Arrived the Rover, Cook, from Rio .Janeiro, sailed 9th.Derember ; Enchantress, Killock, and Antelope, Munro, from Messina in 21 days ; and the Lynx, Hiernan, from the Downs for Lauayra. Off the port the Acuta, Wilson, from Rio Janeiro in 71 days; and the Marshall, White, from Lisbon.' FALMOUTH, FEB. 14.—Wind S.S.E.—Sailed the Lord Sid. mouth packet, for Halifax. LIVERPOOL, FEB. 14.—Wind S.S.E.—Arrived the Emily, Webb, from Savannah, sailed the 17th January ; Waterloo, Munro,. from Messina; Isabella, —, from the Mediterra nean ; Levant, —, from Alexandria ; and the Oporto, .Mar.. tin, from Oporto. COWES, FEB. 15.—The Hon. Company's ship Royal George, Timmins, for Bombay and China, sailed last evening. Off Dover the Christiana, Whyte, from Jamaica, sailed the .6th December. CORN EXCHANGE, Ft:B. 16. The arrivals of most sorts of Grain are tolerably good. There is very little doing in the Wheat trade this morning, and the prices even of the best are hardly so good as Monday. Barley finds very few buyers at the late decline in prices. Beans that are soft in hand are rather cheaper ; but dry samples maintain the late quotations. Pease are dull in sale, except very fine boilers. Oats meet a very heavy trade, and the prices of Mon clay are with difficulty maintained. The Flour trade is very dull. ARRIVALS—EngIish Wheat, 2,500; Barley, 2,100; Oafs, 8,300 ; Irish Wheat, 130 ; Oats, 2,320 qrs.; Flour, 4,200 sacks. Yesterday, at half-past four o'clock, the Duke of Yoax, as Commander-in-Chief, held a Levee at his Office in the Horse Guards, which occupied the attention of his Royal Highness till about six o'clock, there being between forty and fifty present. Among those present were :—Generals Sir B. Tarleton, Cockell, and Gascoyne, Lieut.-GeneralsCockell, Goldie, Sir John Hamilton, Hodgson, and the Knight of Kerry. BREACH OF PRIVILEGE.—M F.' SELDEN, ID the case of Sir ItonEtur HowAtto, declared, that it , was 4C clear, that a Breach of Privilege in one • " Parliament may be punished in auotlor sue " ceeding."—(llalle's Case, Coin. Journal, 1 vol.; p. 2SO.)—So an impeachment originating in one Parliament is not abated by its dissolution, but revives in the succeeding Parliament.—(Mr. Hastings's Case.) THEATRI CALS.—We noticed last week the open ing of the Theatre in Catherine-street, under the direction of Mr. NATHAN, for the purpose of, cultivating and exhibiting the talents of juvenile: Pupils in music, dancing, and theatrical per-, fortnances. It appears that this new I n stitution . , is likely to be supported by a very nume rous ' body of Subscribers, particularly of fwmales, in the fashionable world. It is reported that Mr. supportDowTON t h i e s t o o p e e m ni l: l a g rk Institution, ni Woodcock. ti:ert.:t J a f t : sdlictoe BIRTHS. - On the 7th inst., in Portland-place, the lady of Mr. Hurtado, the Colombian Minister, of a son. Rev. ont R le o i be 6 r t t h o in ra st y ., llfeactsooryn., Sunderland, the wife of the DIED. yesterday morning, at N o 4, Barley-street, r ß is o to b i t : N G a i s o m e yth, infant son of James Irving, Esq. On the 10that Berkeley-square, wife of John Loudon WAdarn, Esq. • 3 , .