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should themfore merely more " That the /3ill be recom mitted." The House then divided, when there appeared in favour of Lord Malmesbury's Amendment, SO ; Against it, 29. The Bill was accordingly thrown out, and the House Adjourned at Half-past Seven o'Clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS, FRIDAY, MA.V . 11. The SPEAKER took the Chair ,precisely at Four o'clock, at which time there was a thin attendance of Members in the body of the House ; but the strangers' gallery, and all the avenues leading to it, were crowded to excess. Sir JAME% SCARLETT and Mr. STURGES Botraxx took the oaths and their seats, upon their re-election. Col. LINDSAY moved that the Committee on the Perth Navigation Bill should have time to make their Re port until the 21st May. Mr. HOME DRUMMOND opposed the motion, on the ground of negligence on the part of the agents. After some conversation the time was extended to Friday next. The time for reporting on the Edinburgh Gas Bill, was also extended to the 21st May. Sir R. DUNDAS presented h petition from the Lord Provost and Town Cour..Cll of Edinburgh, respecting the Salmon Fishery Bil 2. Sir . 1 . W R P :f TESLEY presented a petition from the Dissenters of Wolverhampton, for the repeal of the Corpor ation Test Acts. /dr. LEGH KECK brought up a Bill for preventing Bribery and Corruption at Elections, in the borough of Penryn. The Bill .vas read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on Friday next. Mr. EGERTON presented a petition flout a parish . in Cheshire, for the repeal of the Teat Act. Mr. HUME presented a petition from the freeholders of Forfar, in favour of the Salmon Fishery Bill. Mr. HUME presented a petition from the six wards of Dundee, praying for a repeal of the Corn Laws. Mr. H. HUTCHINSON presented a petition from Cork and Kinsale, against the Salmon Fishery Bill. Mr. Alderman WAITHMAN postponed his motion on the Devon and Cornwall Mining Company to Tuesday next. Sir W. GUISE l'oesented a petition from the Dissenters of Stroud, for the repeal of the Test Act. Mr. PEr.,-L presented a petition from the Owners of Salmon Fisheries in Ireland, against the Salmon Fishery Mr. BEAUMONT, seeing the Secretory of State for the Home Department in his place, begged to► inquire whether he was not appointed provisionally to fill the office he now held ? Mr. Secretary BOURNE was understood to reply, that he did not think it his duty to answer the question thus put to him, but he would retain the situation he held as !ong as it was his Majesty's pleasure. A MEMBER inquired whether Lord J. Russell had given up all idea of bringing on the motion for the repeal of the Test Act ? Lord JOHN RUSSELL said that if the Dissenters had communicated their desire that their claims shcAild he brought immediat e ly before the House, he should have felt it his duty to 'nave brought these claims forward, but they had deferr e d to the opinions of their friends.—(Hear.) COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY. Upon the motion of Mr. lIERRIES, that the House should resolve itself into a Committee of Sappiy, Sir T. LETHBRIDGE rose to pia a question to the Right Hon. the First Lord of the Treasury, and he hoped that question would be argued in a courteous manner, and in a manner that would not be unpleasant to his (Sir T.'s) feelings. (A laugh.) It was the custom, and a useful one, to ask questions of Ministers, end he hoped the Hon. Gent. would feel it his duty to answer those question!. One part of his question had been anticipated to,- an Honourable Member, who asked whether the :secretary of State for the Home Department, tilled his office permanently or only provisionaliy. He (Sir T. Lethbridge) would now all, whether the Noble Lord who filled the office e t ; Secretary for Freeign Affairs filled his office ',3ei-manently ? Ile would not yield to any man in liiyalty to his legitimate Sovereign ; but he had no confidence in the present Ministry—and, if the House supported him, he would move to stop the supplies.—(Cries of Hear, hear.)— The coalition whith had been formed was unprecedented and unconstitutional. It was in contradiction to the prin ciples which had been held by every statesman of former days. There was great talent he knew arrayed at the I other side, but no talent could veil over the compromise of principle which had taken place. It was a national evil, and would be considered a national dies/ace. —(Hear.) In the execution of his duty to his country, he was bound to look at the statements which had been made, and he was compelled to say, that, judging from those statements, he believed that the Right Hon. Gentleman in forming his Ministry, had been actuated by motives which he would not express. There could be no doubt that it was a treaty of place between the Right 1-1;n. Gent. and those who nos' eat behind him. The change had been long concocted; it wart well known that for some time past, it was con sidered not impossible that those Hon. Gentleman should share power with the Right Hon. Gentleman, and support his Government; and it was a question which he would put to the Right Horn Gentleman, and which the country ex pected him to answer, whether neg,ociatione had not been carried on between him and the heads of the Whig party, for some time before the formation of the present Ministry. This was a grave and important charge, and one which the Right Hon. Gentleman, though he may now frown on him (Sir T. Lethbridge) would one day be obliged to him for an opportunity of denying. At first it was asserted that six resignations had been received by the Right Hon. Gentleman in the King's presence, then it came down to four, and at last it appeared only two resignations were re ceived in the Royal presence, and that the Right Hon. Gentleman had carried the other four in his pocket. It was a curious, and he feared, an nnfortunate coincidence, that the Right Hon. Gentleman should have been alone , with the King when his Majesty, for want of time, was driven to confide the Administration to a man who com posed it on principles very different from these of Lord Liverpool's Government. He (Sir T. Lethbridge) always respected the Right Hon. Gentleman, but he could have no confidence in him now that he had united himself with those who had been for many years his avowed opponents. He, Sir T. Lethbridge, and those who thought as he did, were taunted with gulling the Ca . tholics, because they desired that the subject of the Catholic Claims should be finally disposed of; but were not those who led the Catholics to hope that their claims would be granted—the persons who really gulled them—for they were now ready to postpone the Catholic Question sine die, and in his opinion all the hopes of the Roman Catholics from Gentlemen opposite would end in disappointment. The Right flon. Gentleman had certainly proved himself a magician, and had succeeded in confounding Whigs and Tories. He had un-Toried himself, and if those who were behind him supported him they would can-Whig themselves. The conduct of the Government was most extraordinary. The Representatives of the people here sitting from November to May and had done absolutely nothing.— (Hear, hear.)—The Finances were to be hurried on but net looked into, for in this burly burly, the late Chancellor of the Exchequer had been shuffled from his station in this House, where he was most useful, to an other—it was said, a higher station. In conclusion, the Hon. Bart. recommended temperance in their discussions, and hoped there would not be a repetition of that offensive manner, from one side of the other, which had charac terised the discussion in that House on a former occasion. Mr. CANNING rose to reply to the questions which had been put by the Hon. Baronet. That Hon. Baronet had a right to a reply on the present occasion, because he had been courteous in giving notice of his intention to put those questions, and he (Mr. C.) should always distinguish between questions put in a hostile tone, of which notice hail been given, and those of which no notice was given. As the speech of the Honourable Baronet, appeared, however, to have been intended as the basis of a general discussion he (Mr. Canning) hoped for the indul gence of the House, if he should again find it necessary t o trespass; on their attention. The first question put by the Hon. Baronet, namely, whether the two offices of Secretaries of State for the Home and Foreign Departments were filled permanently or only provisionally, had been put pre viously, at least in substance, by another Honour able Gentleman, the Member for Stafford (Mr. Beaumont) and he understood it to be the intention of that Hon. Gen tleman to make a formal motion on the subject, as he did not consider the reply he had received from his Right Honourable Friend (Mr. Sturges Bourne) satisfactory. The Hon. Gentleman was quite justified in the course he proposed, but until that course was adopted and the motion of the Hon. Gentleman fairly before the House, he (Mr. Canning) was determined that neither taunts nor sarcasms should induce him to utter a single word on the subject. The Hon. Member for Staffordshire had determined to put an end to what he (Mr. Canning) would call those disgust ing discussions by a regular motion, and for his own part he fe't obliged to the Honourable Gentleman for having adopted that course, and afforded him the opportunity of explaining himself to the Holum ; but he again repeated, that until that opportunity arrived, neither taunts nor courtesies should induce him to enter on the dia eussion. The other question which the Hon. Baronet put to him was, whether any negotiations had been carried on between him (Mr. Canning) and the leaders of the Whig party, previous to the period when he received his Ma- jesty's directions for the formation of a new Ministry. The Hon. Baronet was offended at the brevity of his answer on a former night; but in answer to this last question of the Hon. Baronet, he must again reply with a mono syllable—No.—(Loud cheers and laughter.)—H e an swered—no—but he would not do justice to the conduct of others, if he did not alio state, that before this period he did not know that he would receive the able and disinterested support of tothe individuals, who then sat on the other eide of the House, and who though small in number, were powerful in talents and influence. This information, however, anti directly contrary to a bargain for office. Ile was informed that in the event rA his being placed at the head of the Govern ment, he would receive the cordial, but, it was expressly stated, the disinterested support, of those individuals ; hnd, some time afterwards, when he was driven to straits,' as he most undoubtedly was, to form an administration—when the question of place came to he dis cussed—it came from him arid not from them—not from these individuals Who had previously tendered him their Most disinterested support.—(Loud cheers.)—On one observation of the Honourable Baronet's, he felt himself called upon to remark. The Hon. Baronet said that lie agreed with Mr. Canning on many political questions, but that he could not have any degree of confidence in him when he united himself with persons whom he only agreed with on one question, differing on Reform and many other subjects. It was curious, however, that the Hon. Bart. should have been ee.lected in the cast of parts to-night to make this charge against him (Mr. Can ning) for he remembered when he introduced his Bill foe the admission of Peers to the House of Lords, the Hon. Baronet cautioned the House, he was pleased to say, against his (Mr. Canning's) powers of persuasion, for that he had been led away by those powers so much only three nights before, that he was induced to vote against Parliamentary Reform though he was a strenuous supporter of that measure.—(Great laughter. ) Whilst hie Hon. Friends behind him, therefore, differed with him on only one question, the Honourable Baronet was opposed to h're both on Reform and Catholic emancipation. He taeught it right to make this one ob servation, and he should conclude by giving the Hon. Baronet credit for the good temper he had evinced on this occasion, and by thanking his Hon. Friend (Mr. Beau mont) for giving him the opportunity of coming fairly be fore the House on this subject, and putting an end to this unsatisfactory discussion. , --(Loud cheers.) The Marquis of tAVISTOCK said, that the real ques tion which they had to decide was, should they give a fair hearing and patient trial to the Administration formed by the Right Hon. Gentleman, in obedience to the commands of the King ? For his own part, he had no inclination for power, nor had he talents for office. It had been his anxious wish in the late changes to avoid all negotiations till the arrangements were perfected, reserving to himself, under any circumstances, full power to adhere to those principles which it had been the business of his whole life to defend.—(Cheers.)—Long as he had bop opposed to the sate Government, and much as he had differed from the Right Hon. Gentleman, he trusted that he never should be led to oppose him or his Government, right or wrong, without reference to the nature of their measures.— (Cheers.)—He did not wish to unite himself to either of the great parties ; but where he saw gentlemen so prema ture in their opposition, so suddenly pledging themselves to plans of hostility and embarrassment so exclusively personal —he had almost said so rancorous to the Right Hon. Gen tleman--(Cheers)--not having the patience to wait for mea sures, nor the decency to abstain from throwing dirt on one who was for so long a time their leader--(Very loud and animated cheers)—on one under whom they had so lately served--(Cheers)—when he saw, as the Hon. Member for Stafford had well said, Toryism in its most hideous shape, raising its frightful form among them—(Cheers)—with all his inclination to watch vigilantly the conduct of every man in Administration, and much as he was moved by the spirit of opposition, of which he could not even now en tirely divest himself—(Laughter)—he should he wanting in public duty if he aid net say, that though he could not give a certain promise of support to the new Administration, yet he felt decidedly inclined to oppose the measures taken against it by the Hon. Baronet, and the two Right Hon. Gentlemen who had thought fit to withdraw from his Majesty's Government.—(Cheers.)—In the course of his political life he never remembered to have witnessed conduct so hard, to say the least of it, as that which had been pursued towahls the Right Hon. Gentleman and the Hon. Gentlemen who had thought proper to act with him. He strongly objected to the anxiety which had been shown to perplex him at the outset of his Go vernment--to overthrow him by an overwhelming attempt before he got properly seated, and before he could choose hill course ; and it strongly inclined over to that side which seemed not to have fair play. He was certain that this must be the feeling of all who were smarting from official disappointment, and the pangs of mortified ambition.— (Loud cheers.)—As to the Right Hon. Member for Ox ford, he did not by any means intend to class him with the other opponents of Administration. This expression of his sentiments, the opportunity of doing which he owed to their kindness and patient attention, he thought due to his eonstituen4; and he had taken this course with the view of making it known to them. Conceiving that the Administration was formed on principles which bid fairer for the advantage of the country than that which preceded it, and reserving to himself the right of opposing it only wise- the measures of Government should lead him to think otherwise, he would so far give his support to the Right Hon. Gentleman.—(Cheers.) Mr. PEEL said that he must have extremely misun derstood the Noble Marquis if he had not been classed with the two Honourable Gentlemen upon whose conduct the Noble Marquis had commented, not in a very moderate manner,. accompanied with personalities and censure ap plied to him (Mr. Peel) because of his separating himself, in an official sense, from the Right Hon. Gentleman, whom yet he hoped he might call his Right Hon. Friend. It was not with any view to office that he had taken his course in the first instance, nor was it on account of his regret for it that he had spoken on a former evening...— So far from his acting as one of a factious and rancorous Opposition, he had come down on the night of the Ship ping Question to support his Right Honourable Friend the President of the Board of Trade.—(Cheers.)—He certainly had stated that which lie felt to be a difficulty in the formation of the new Ministry. When he saw many Honourable Gentlemen who had been uniformly opposed to Government, abandoning, as it seemed, their principles, and taking seats behind his Right Hon. Friend, and about to take office under him, he did say that he must refuse his confidence till he knew of whom the Go vernment was to be composed, and what were the measures which gave a cement to the coalition. He expected, natu rally enough'under the circumstances, that a triumph was anticipated on the two great questions of Catholic Emanci pation and Reform. When he heard the Right Hon. Gen tleman declare that the question of parliamentary reform would be opposed as before, and that he would not sup port the repeal of the Test Act, he then felt that those questions, so far from being in any danger, had obtained, by the accession of their supporters to a Government pre pared to oppose them, a most signal triumph. What ob jection, then, could he be supposed to entertain to the formation of a Cabinet which secured the triumph of his ewn principles ?—(Cheers.)—What rancour or personal hostility could he, who had never served for the advantages of office, feel for the accession of a party to office, upon terms which established his own principles with more safety than ever ? What objection could he have to a plan of administration forrneo on the principle of excluding, by those who before did net agree upon any but the Catholic Question ? He promised his most zealous support and as sistance in as full a measure as he had given them to any inquiries into the ancient institutions of the country, with a view to their amelioration and reform.—(Cheers.)--He had not adopted those plans which he had brought before the House because he was in office, nor was he disposed to abandon them because he ha l quitted it.—(Cheers.)_ He hoped he had explained satisfactorily the reasons of the course which be had taken on a former evening. He ad mitted that the Right Hon. Gentleman had then explained the terms of the coalition in a perfectly satisfactory man ner. He would only add an opinion which he still enter tained, that if there were to be any junction of the Mem bers of that party to the Administration, it was but fair that it should at once take place, that the House and the ccuntry might know what they had to expect. He was never, more surprised than to find himself, as the conse quence of that speech, classed by the Noble Lord as one of a factious Opposition. When he first came into Parlia ment, his Right Hon. Friend did indeed form a part of what be conceived, with great deference, to be a factious opposition. His Right Hon. Friend must know well, from his experience at that time, what a factious opposition really was, of what value was its support, and the incon venience which resulted from its success. He denied the fact, and utterly disclaimed the intention of giving any thing like a factious opposition to the present Administra tion.—(Cheees.) The Marquis of TAVISTOCK said, that if any thing which he had said was offensive to the Right Hon. Gentle man, he was sorry for having spoken it ; nothing could be further from his intention. What he wished to have said was, that he was sorry to find the Right Hon. Gentleman descend from that high station which he occupied in the House, to join an opposition, headed by the Baronet, and the Hon. and late Under Secretary of the Home Department. It appeared that he had been mistaken in the views of the Right 1- on. Gentleman, and he was glad of the opportunity of having himself set right upon the subject. Mr. YATES PEEL was understood to say, that to ac cuse him of being one of a rancorous and factious opposition, was an abominable falsehood. Mr. MABERLY explained the reasons why he had post poned his financial notices for this session, because he placed the fullest confidence in the Right Hon. Gentleman's (Mr. Canning's) promise to appoint a, Committee of Finance next Session, to enter fully into all the parts of the public expenditure, To toppoee that the proposed Committee , would not be a fair one, would be an insult to the Govern went. In full reliance upon this promise, he should not oppose any of this year's estimates, not even the Peniten tiary item, to which he strongly objected, and which he trusted would be reduced in the next year's inquiry. Sir JOSEPH YORKE saidi it might be necessary for Members like himself to state on the present occasion the grounds upon which they stood with regard to the present Government. It was now 37 years since he sat on his present side of the House (the Opposition side), and now that the lion and the lamb had laid down together, they ought, in the language of the Parliamentary prayer, " to give up all partial affection."—(A laugh..)—He meant to have risen after his amiable and excellent friend Sir T. Lethbridge.—(Cries of order.)—lrstleed, when he had heard the Hon. Baronet, he thought for the'moment that he was under a delusion as to his identity, and that the Clerk of the Crown had just struck out the Hon. Baronet's name, and substituted that of Sir Francis IVronghead.— (A laugh.)—He had the highest opinion of the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Peel) who sad manfully and consistently maintained his principles, but he (Sir J. Yorke) should give something of his general support to the present Government, even to the Catholic question, pro vided they took the measure into their hands, and pledged their responsibility that they could not govern the country without it. Lord CLIFTON, on the present occasion, was anxious to state his views. From the moment the Hon. Gentle men, with whom he was in the habit of acting, had de termined to give their support to the flight Hon. Gentle man opposite, he had entertained doubts as to the pro prietytof that course. They had, he knew, generally sup-. ported the liberal portion of his Majesty's Government, iu their recent measures. Still lie must say, that he did not at this moment see such an administration constituted as to call for a pledge of his support.—(Hear, hear.) Sir J. SEBRIGHT avowed that his present determina tion was to support the Government appointed by his Sovereign, and which, he believed, was the best calculated to support the honour and dignity of the country. It was not for him to apologise for the junction of the Whip— they were much better able to speak in their own justifi cation than he could for them; but what objection could there be to their direct junction with the liberal portion of the Cabinet, in sustaining the principal of the lib era l mea sures which they had already promoted ? To the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Canning) lie believed the country was much indebted for the recent change in its policy; and he was glad to see his Government strength ened, by being purged of its greatest incumbrance—be meant of its narrow-minded and prejudiced portion. He was glad at the retirement of men who would have pro voked the rebellion of five millions of their fellow-subjects, rather than concede the Catholic question. He looked to the Right Hon. Gentleman for sustaining the honour and character of his country by his transcendent talents, and with the support of those who now surrounded him. He had the greatest respect personally for the Right Han. Gentleman (Mr. Peel), but he rejoiced that he was no longer a Cabinet Minister, as he feared his bigotted opinions on certain subjects would be most detrimental to the coun try. His opinions in this respect, though on different points, were of the same genus as the Pope's,—quite as uncompromising. Indeed, lie thought the Right Hon. Gentleman would snake a bad Cabinet Minister for either a Protestant or a Catholic Government. He approved of the present Ministers, and hoped the country would support them likewise.—(Hear.) s Mr. WODEHOUSE wished, when so much calumny was afloat, to explain his own conduct. On the 6th of May he had communicated with the Right Honourable Gentleman opposite (Mr. Huskisson) upon the propriety of ascertaining what was the feeling of Parliament and the country respecting the new Government. He had written to him on the 6th of May, and on the 10th he received this answer : " My dear Sir—When we parted yesterday, I thought we were both agreed that a debate on the mate of the nation would be the best thing that could happen, and the sooner the better ; but that such a motion would originate better with an avowed enemy than a firm friend." Mr. LITTLETON rose to order, and thought that a written communication of this nature ought not to he publicly read ; he had also reason to think that the Ttigjat Hoc., Gentleman did not think it would hare been so used. • —( Hear.) • Mr. HUSKISSON said, that certainly he did not ex pect his Hon. Friend would h ave rea d his letter, which, he believed, was marked " private ;" not that he cared by whom it was seen. Mr. WODEHOUSE said that Hon. Members had asked him what course he meant to take, and he was anxious to protect himself from any misunderstanding, as there was nu end to the calumnies circulated against him. Mr. PORTMAN intreated that his Hon. Friend would not further allude to private communications.—(Hear.) Mr. WODEHOUSE said he was not there to defend his private honour, for no man Lad attacked it.—(Hear, hear.)—But he was most anxious to pay his tribute of applause to the Right Hon. Gentlemen at the head of the Government, and he hoped they would have their court, try's support.--(Hear, hear.) Mr. HUME said, that the Right HOD. Gentlemen op posite must see that the country expected of him a change of principle in financial matters. He concurred perfectly in the opinions which the Hon. Baronet, the Member for Hertford, had expressed, and trusted that any observa_ . tions which might fall from him on that occasion would not lead any Hon. Member to suppose that Le differed from those opinions. This, however, he felt it his duty to say, that the country expected relief. They were nosy in the 13th year of peace. At the conclusion of the war, the nation had been led to expect relief year after y ear ; but let the House reflect how those 13 years had passed away. There had been a military establishment, only suitable to a state of actual warfare, constantly kept up, and they were now in a state of utter bankruptcy. In 1821, the expen diture was brought within the income of the Government, and he hoped that the same would be done this veal. In the last year the House had agreed to add tiA- millions to the unfunded debt, under a promise that a sum should be taken from the funded debt. The vote he should never have agreed to, had it not been from the unparalleled distresses of the country, and the promises of relief which were then held out. The House might not generally know, and it might therefore be as well to state the fact, that no relief whatever had been given to the country. On the contrary, the expenditure had exceeded the revenue millions, and the debt of the country had consequently increased. When the business relative to Portugal was brought forward, he had implored the Right Hon. Gentle man opposite to pause before he took a stair which, throw ing the political consequences of it altogether on one side, must entail great expence upon the country. And how I did matters now stand ? Why, there was a deficiency of 4i millions last year, and there would be a similar deficiency this ; and yet they were still keeping up the farce of a sinking fund. He hoped that the Right Hon. Gentleman would not be induced to defer la intended Committee of Finance until next year, but set about it im mediately. With respect to going into the Committee of Supply now, he thought that he was entitled to ask of the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite, not to proceed to it until he had first redeemed the pledge given by the late Chancellor of the Exchequer, not to ask for any more supplies until he had brought forward his financial statement for the year. He thought that the House, or at least that part of the House in which he sat, would support him in this propo sition. If he thought that the line of conduct he was now pursuing would throw any impediments in the way of the Right Hon. Gentleman, he would abandon it. He did not, however, think that it would ; and he really thought, that after what he had said, and he pledged himself that it was correct, he was justified in asking how far his Majesty's Ministers could make up the deficiency in the year's reve nue? And whether the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite meant to take any immediate means of lessening the ex penditure of Government? He hoped that he should hear some explanation upon these points, and that in the ab sence of such explanation he should be supported by those gentlemen who had hitherto acted with him. Mr. HERRIES was sure the House would see that at that time it was not necessary for him to enter into the discussion of this subject, or to follow the Hon. Member for Montrose through all the topics on which he had ' touched. His Right Hon. Friend had already expressed his intention of declaring the state of the finances of Go vernment before the holidays, and it would therefore to say the least of it, he premature in any one to attempt it before then. There was one part of the speech of the Hon. Member for Montrose on which he felt it necessary to make an observation. • The Hon. Member had claimed the fulfilment of a promise made by his Noble Friend ( Viscount Goderich) who had now left that House, and which he stated to be, that no other estimates should he voted until he had made his financial statement. There could he no doubt that those words, or that words to that i effect, had been used by his Noble Friend ; but he would put it to the Hon. Member for Montrose, and to the House, whether they would be disposed to think, that after the circumstances which had occurred since that pro mise was made, it was imperative on his Right Hon. Friend to adopt the plan and to redeem the pledge given by the late Chancellor of the Exchequer,—(Cheers.) If the question related to the major part of the supplies, the case would wear a different aspect : but the greater part of them had already been voted : the army and navy estimates had already passed, and the remainder were, comparatively speaking, of very small amount.—(Cheers.) With respect to the appointment of a finance committee, it should he re collected that, however salutary that measure might be, it was by the vigilance and attention of Government, and by that alone, that any great reduction could be made. —(Cheers.) Mr. CANNING said, that in reply to what had fallen from th am. Member for Montrose, he had to state, that on that day fortnight he should bring forward his state ment for the year.—(Cheers, and cries of hear.)—lle hoped that the Hon. Member would desist from opposing the motion for the House going into a Committee, because he must see that under the circumstances in which he (Mr. Canning) was placed, it was beyond the power of human diligence and industry to enter into prospective as well as retrcspective estimates, and to lay before the House a state ment which could be at all satisfactory to them, before the period which he had fixed.---(Cheers.)—These est:;nates bore no immediate reference to the general statement ; and although the opening of the general statement early in the year, as had been the custom of his Noble Friend (Viscount Goderich), was a very proper plan, and one that he should always endeavour to adopt, yet it must be recollected that that custom was of a very late origin, and tbet what he should call the constant and uniform coerse of that House was not to bring forward the general statement until all the supplies had• been disposed of. He was quite sure that Gentlemen conversant with the practice of that House would concur With him in saying that that had been the usual mode of proceeding; and be therefore begged the Hon. Member for Montrose to recollect that he (Mr. Can ning) did not ask him to violate any Parliamentary form in withdrawing his opposition for the present. Colonel DAVIES thought the reasons satisfactory. Lord HOWICK said that the late Chancellor of the Ex chequer had promised the House should not he called to vote any inure supplies until the general statement had been brought forward, and it was upon that pledge that he rested his opinion. He was as anxious as any Hon. Gentleman could be not to throw obstacles in the way of Government, but he thought that there ought to be no expenditure until the means by which that expenditure was to be met had been declared ; and upon that ground the Hon. Member for Montrose should have his vote, if be persevered in his opposition. Lord MILTON said, that when he gage it as his opinion that the Committee should be gone into, because opposing it might be construed into an abandonment of Government, the Hon. Member for Montrose must not suppose that he meant to desert him in his endeavours to bring about an economical reformation. Next to the state of Ireland, he thought the state of the finances of this country the most alarming object that presented itself to the consideration of that House. He could not see without considerable anxiety and alarm so small a surplus as 1,000,0001. over the ex penditure of the country. Mr. HUME said that there was a deficiency instead of a surplus. Lord MILTON said, that whether called by the name of a sinking fetid, or by any other title, he (lid net care. The result was the same; and as he understood the accounts, there was a surplus of 1,000,000/. Mr. Alderman WOOD was sure the Right Hon. Gen tleman opposite would feel gratified when he told him that a large number of his constituents were satisfied with his government, especially when compared with that part which had left him. For his own part, he had not shown by a change of seat that the Right Hon. Gentleman might expect him to favour him with his vote.—(A laugh. )—But the fact was, that he did not think he should ever change the seat which, to his taste, was so comfortable.—(A laugh.) —Though he continued in his place, he would give the Right Hon. Gentleman his support as far as he could— (Cheers),—in spite of the very degrading language,—lan guage not suitable to any place, which had been used to wards him (Mr. Canning) elsewhere.—(Cheers.)—He had often heard severe reflections passed upon the debates of the Common Council of London.--(A laugh.)—They had been called a set of vulgar men, who used nothing but vulgar language.—(Laughter.)—But he must say, that he never heard any thing elsewhere which so nearly approach ed the language of that place as the language to which he referred.—(Cheers and laughter.)—He confessed that he thought the Right Hon. Gent. would have all the benefit of that language. He saw a great many of his friends on that (the Oppositit' 3u) side ,of the House that night, whom he had certainly seen on the other side since the late change, but he could easily account for it. The fact was, that the benches on the other side being so full, and gentlemen being compelled to sit somewhere, they had been driven back to their former places.—(Laughter.)--At least he hoped that want of room on the other side of the House was the only reason for their being on his that evening, and that they would continue to support the Right Hon. Gentleman, because, in another place which he must not mention, language had been used which certainly could not be tolerated.—(Cheers and laughter.)—This was of itself a reason why he ought to be supported.—(Cheers.)—He hoped that his Honourable Friend, the Member for Mon trose, with whom he had so often voted, and with whom he should continue to vote, would not, though he confessed that there was no man more competent, embarrass the Right Honourable Gentleman, and drive him into a corner of pounds, shillings, and pence.—(Cheers and laughter. ) He had only one complaint to make against the Right Hon. Gent., and that was for an expression into which he was sure he had been goaded, but into which he hoped he would . never suffer himself to be goaded again. He hoped that what ever he might say as to Parliamentary Reform, which every body knew that he had always opposed, he would not again get up again in his place and say, as he did the other night, and as he (Mr. Alderman Wood) thought a little unnecessarily, that he would oppose the repeal of the Test Act to the last hour of his life.—(Cries of" No, no.") I t was something to that effect, and he hoped that the Right Hon. Gentle man would never suffer himself to be goaded, by high or low, intl -,uch an expression. Frequent allusions had been made in that House to the march of intellect.—(A laugh.) —Now, although the Right Hon. Gentleman might have proceeded so far in this march, even to the very pinnacle, beyond which there could he no marching—(Laughter.)— _ _ He thought the time would yet come when the Right Hon. Gentleman would think that the difficulties under which so many thousand Dissenters laboured ought to be removed. —(Cheers.)—He hoped and believed that the time would come when the march of intellect would reach the Right Hon. Gentleman on this point.—(Laughter.)-ILving thus stated the grounds on which he should oppose the Right Hon. Gentleman, he should now conclude by ob serving, that on all occasions where the measures of Go vernment were directed to the public good, the Right Hon. Gentleman might be sure of his support. Sir ROBERT WILSON rose to make one observation with respect to what had fallen from the worthy Alder man, who had evidently quite mistaken the purport of what had been said by the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Canning) on a late occasion with respect to the Corpora tion and Test Acts. To those who knew him (Sir Robert Wilson) he need hardly say, that he was a friend to civil and religious liberty in the largest and most comprehensive sense that the term could admit of. He therefore blamed the Dissenters for not having made common cause with their Roman Catholic fellow •subjects in petitioning the Legislature for a repeal of those Acts ; and for that reason he, for one, should join the Right Hon. Gentleman in op posing their repeal.—(Hear, from Mr. Alderman Wood.) —The worthy Alderman might cry hear ! but he should tell him why he had come to that determination. It was for this reason, because there were 18 millions composing the population of the country, 8 millions of whom were excluded from those rights which the other 10 millions enjoyed. Now, if according to the worthy Alderman's view, the Test Act ought to be repealed with reference to the Dissenters, that class of persons would unite in keep ing the Roman Catholics from participating in the rights which were conceded to themselves. Mr. S. WORTLEY put it to the Hon. Gentlemen who were engaged in these irrelevant discussions to say, whether it would not be snore beneficial to the public service that the House should at once proceed to business.—(Hear.) The question that the SPEAKER do now leave the Chair was then put and carried, and the House having resolved itself into THE COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY, Mr. BANKES (Dorset) moved that the sum of 9,8771. be granted for the improvements now completed as the British Museum, without any deduction whatever. Mr. R. COLBORNE wished to know whether it was the intention of the trustees of the British Museum to fix upon a more convenient place than that now selected for the exhibition of the antique statues, and other works of art, bequeathed to that institution. With all respect for the trustees of the British Museum, in whom he was disposed to place every confidence, he thought that a more conve nient and eligible situation might be fixed upon for exhi biting the statues, than the places assigned to them in the British Museum. Mr. BANKES was not prepared to say that it was the intention of the trustees of the British Museum to act upon the suggestion of the Hon. Gentleman, He conceived that it would be an act of the greatest impropriety to at tempt the removal of the statues from the places which they at present occupied, becaase the donors, among whom was the late Mr. Payne Knight, and others, expressed in their wills that they should remain in the British Museum. Mr. HUME objected to the increase of the Officers' salaries. It appeared that the sum of 7,7681. was assigned for the payment of the officers and other official persons connected with the British Museum. On looking to the grants of former years, it would be found that a very great increase had taken place in this particular item ; and he was therefore desirous of suggesting to his Majesty's Go vernment the necessity of curtailing the growing expendi ture of this establishment. Mr. BANKES explained the cause of the increase in the expenditure of the British Museum, which was owing, he said, to the necessity of appointing additional officers, in consequence of the increased number of visitors. Mr. MABERLY was of opinion that his Hon. F r i en d . _ (Mr. Hume) ought to defer his objections for the present, in consequence of the intimation which the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Canning) had given a few evenings ago, to recommend the appointment, next year, of a Committee to examine into the state of the finances. Mr. HERRIES explained the reason of the additional appointments, by showing the great increase which had taken place, of late years, in the business of the British M asetm. Mr. HUME could assure his Hon. Friend (Mr. Ma berly) and the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite, that he felt no desire whatever to offer any unnecessary opposition to the passing of these votes. He did not mean to say that the Right Hon. Gentleman did not mean to keep his word with reference to the promise of reviving the finance committee : but suppoie it should happen that the Right Hon. Gentleman should be succeeded in his office by another Right Hon. Gentleman before he could redeem his pledge, would not the present opportunity be lost?—(A laugh.)— The Right Hon. Gentleman was now in power, and there was an old saying, that there was nothing like a friend at court. For this reason he felt inclined to urge the neces sity of examining these votes in detail, with a view to their reduction. ,At the same time he should feel loth to press his objections in opposition to the feeling of the House. After a few words from Mr. H. Guiimtv, which were wholly inaudible, the vote was passed. Mr. HERRIES moved that the sum of 91,0001. be granted on account of the civil contingencies for the year 187. Mr. HUME was not disposed to place any confidence in the measures of the Right Hon. Gentleman Mr. Canning, or in the measures of any Ministers who could sanction the appropriation of so large a sum as 340,0001. for Ambassa dors, and 100,0001. for Consuls. Unless the Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer was prepared to commence his career by the reduction of those enormous expences, he (Mr. Hume) should feel very little confidence in his future measures. What was the country to think when 30 or 40,000/. were set down as the expences incurred by only one Ambassador ; and this, too, at a time when the coun try was suffering the greatest misery ? There was an item of 1,9611. expended in purchasing a snuff-box for the Co lombian Minister ; he (Mr. Hume) objected most strongly to the public money being thus appropriated. He had taken the trouble to refer to a document by which these matters were regulated in the United States, and he found that no Ambassador, of those States ever took a present of a snuff-box, nor could he do so without leave of the Presi dent. Now, he asked, was it proper that the simple Mi nister of an infant State should be bribed by such costly pre sents. as those which the Right Hon. Gentleman was in the habit of making ? It was nothing short of downright bribery, and he should therefore feel it his duty to object to this vote altogether. Mr. CANNING only rose to assure the Hon. Gentle man (Mr. Hume) that there had been no actual attempt at bribery practised by the British Government with respect to Colombia or any other state.—(A laugh.)—The Hon. Member might, at all events, be assured that he (Mr. Canning) had no personal interest whatever in the pre senting. of snuff-boxes to the Ambassadors of Foreign pow ers. He was not aware of the document to which the Hon. Gentleman had referred. Me. HUME said he would send the Right Hon. Gen tleman a copy of it. Mr. CANNING, in thanking the Hon. Gentleman for his obliging offer, assured him that he wished it were pos sible to get back the many snuff-boxes disposed of in the way which the Hon. Gentleman had condemned.—(A laugh.) Mr. HUME, in allusion to another item, said that many years ago, an attempt bad been made to make the slaves of Berbice earn their own livelihood, the conse quence of which was; that a large sum of money was voted for their support- This he conceived to be the 78C p/uf ultra of extravagance. The Hon. Gient.,then refer to an item included in these contingencies; of 439/. for sending Sir George Nayler to Paris, to invest some person there with an order. Such a sum he considered was most enormous for the mere conveyance of a rilland. There was also the sum of 1,2661. for the use of Sir Robert Chester in lieu of per centage on presents. This he considered a monstrous charge. There was also a considerable sum charged for building a house for the Bishop of Jamaica. Really it would appear, that the Government were so flush of money, that they had nothing to do but scatter it about them.—(A laugh.)--Why should not this Bishop build a house at his own expense, or at least why should not Ja maica bear the burden, and not this country? The Hon. Member then alluded to some services of plate given as presents ; and observed, that it was time to put a stop to such a waste of the public money. Mr. HERRIES observed, that the allowance to Sir R. Chester could not be considered as an additional charge, as it was in lieu of a per ceutage on presents to Foreign Sovereigns, and it was considered more decorous to give a fixed sum than to continue that per centage. The charge for Mr. Walker was perfectly justifiable; for though -the estate over which he presided was not productive, it did not follow that the steward was to be without the reward of his labours. The charge for Sir George Nayler was justifiable by long-established usage. Sir J. NEWPORT thought that as the whole of these matters were to be referred to a Committee next Session, it would be better to let them go before such Committee, where they could be discussed with snore effect. At the same time he trusted the whole of the Irish miscellaneous expences would also be placed under the same control. The Irish Government would, he thought, be relieved from a very painful task if the whole of the miscellaneous ex penditure of that country were placed under the control of the Treasury here. After a few words from Mr. HUME as to the expences incurred in the conveyance of clergy and their families to the West Indies, and an observation from Mr. W. Hort- TON, in reply, the motion was agreed to. PURCHASE OF YORK HOUSE. The next resolution moved by Mr. HERRIES was, not exceeding 27,000/., be granted for the expenses and repairs of public buildings for the year 1827. After a few words from Mr. &trams, which were not audible in the gallery, Mr. HUME said, he understood there was a treaty now on foot for the purchase, by Government, of the house in the park, intended for the late Duke of York ; and he wished to know how far that treaty had proceeded, and what amount the public were to pay for the house should it be purchased? He should object to an increase of the number of public buildings, for the expense to the public was not in the mere purchase, but in the continued one of expences and repairs which the country was called to pay f r om year to year. Mr. HERRIES sail, that the Government had at pre sent secured to itself only the right of pre-emption. A treaty was going on for the purchase, and the value of the house was to be ascertained by valuation, made by surveyors a ppointed by each party; but the amount was not yet known. Sir J. YORXE, Mr. BARING, Mr. CANNING and Mr. HomE, severally addressed a few observations to the com mittee on this subject, but their import could not be col lected, owing to a temporary interruption caused by the entrance of several strangers into the gallery. As soon as the noise had subsided, _ _ Mr. CANNING (adverting, as we understood, to some thing which had fallen from Mr. Hume) observed, that it was only that morning he had examined the paper, and that some doubts having arisen an to the legal course to be taken, it was referred to the law-officers of the Crown. Mr. HUME repeated his objection to the purchase of the House, as an uncalled-for expence to the country. Mr. CANNING said, that the House, if not purchased by government, might be purchased by private indivi duals. It might perhaps be converted into an hotel and tavern, and perhaps a gaming -house, which would be found extremely inconvenient in the middle of the Park. Mr. HUME observed, that the Right Hon. Gentleman would find on inquiry, that such an event was particularly guarded against in the lease. Mr. BANKES objected to the purchase of the house, as too expensive. The Hon. Member (Mr. Hume) had, he thought given a perfectly satisfactory answer to the pre tence of the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Canning.) Mr. HERRIES defended the purchase. Mr. W. WHITMORE thought the country was not in a condition at present to make so expensive a purchase. It had been examined by a Committee of the " Royal Society," who declared it unfit for a National Gallery. Mr. Alderman WOOD said, that the present was a case in which he could not support the Right Honor"' Gentleman. Mr. HUME said, that in the early part of the Wet an Hon. and Learned Gentleman (Mr. Brougham)/ at that time sat on his (the opposition) side of the Hon,' but who had since taken his s e at on th e Ministerial van had called the attention of the House to the intended PI: chase of York-house by Gov e rnm en t, t o w hich he strong' objected. The circumstance would be in the recollectO of most Members, from the words used by the Right 1 -1 ; Gentleman (Mr. Canning), wh o s t a t e d i n his reply,! the Learned Gentleman had thrown much good nide tion away on the occasion, as no such purchase wen tended by Government. Now it appeared that the wv to Hon. Gentleman had in some measu r e m i s l e d the Hot!, that occasion, for it now appeared that the purchase in the contemplation of Government. Mr. CANNING recollected the circumstance, but ; 1 ;1 8 Learned Gentleman spoke on that occas i on o f a n inten n o purchase of the house as a pala ce f or a p r i nce , and it nf to that his (Mr. Canning's denial referred. Mr. BROUGHAM said it would be doing injustice the Right Hon. Gentleman on th e l ower b enc h, and to t b - , Hon. Member opposite, if he did no t s t a t e w hat Irani; opinion he gave on the occasion alluded to, and sneb _,. that opinion Was then, such it still existed; without aln, tion. His objection en that occasi on w as , th a t this he n ,. ing, the architecture of which he much admired for beauty, and would have admired much more if the 04'3_42 plan, which he had seen, and which w as s k e t c h e d by a yr " ingenious Member of that House, had been adhered In should be purchased as a Royal Palace. He spoke bia l y s nantly at the idea of such a purchas e , b ecause he there were already a sufficient number of palaces. Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Canning) h a d g iven a c od ri plete answer to his objecti on , a n d th ere f ore m i g ht hare that he had thrown his indignatio n awa y, b eca use it peered, that there was no i n t en ti on o f p urc h as i ng the bn il ing for a palace. His o bj e ctio n w as t o th a t, b u t nos O r stat that it might n o t be p urc h ase d f or some o ther pall Now as to the purch ase a t a ll, hi s a pp ro b a ti on or disappN ed would depend on the pu r p ose t o w hi c h it was t o be aPP Ii Mr. HUME had und e r s t oo d th e L earne d G en tleman , have adverted to it as a house for the D u k e o f Clarence. t, Mr. CANNING said that th e H on . an d L ear ned Ge n spoke only of a palace. Mr. BROUGHAM had e xpre ss ly u se d th e wo rd pad After a few words from Mr. BARING, which were 0° audible in the gallery, Lord ALTHORP obj ec t e d t o th e p urc h a se of '(0 house, as unn ecessar y. Lord MILTON sa id, th e sum requ i re d f or th e parch l e t would he too g rea t, f or a b u ildi ng w hi c h a f terwa rds nl i g ni v. net he - found use f u l f or t h e o bj ect f or .h , c. 1 .1 it 'n f intended. felt tboo Mr. WOOD (of Preston) objected to the purchase. 0 , Mr. BERRIES was informed,. by the very highest 8 thority, that, with a little alteration ; it would be very for a gallery of pictures. After a few words from Mr. H. GURNEY, the COle was agreed to. Two sums, the first of '7,000L, th e secon d o f 8-- nn Ot were voted to defray the expenses of works carrying 0 ° Portpatrick and Donaghadee, for the current year. de The next resolution was for a grant of 20,0001., t° fray the expense of the works now carrying on in the 1 40 c harbour of King's-town, near Dublin, for the current Ye;., : On this item a conversation took place between .7 1 Hums, Mr. HERMES, Sir J. YOREE, Sir J. Nswilie Mr. V. FITZGERA LD , wh o argue d s t rong ly i n f a vour d new harbour, and Mr. H. GRATTAN. The resolution was then agreed to. The sum of 12,0001. was voted to defray the ex10:,7, for the current year, of buildings n o werec ti ng a t the Brit' Museum. The next resolution was for the sum of 26,2501., to tl e ; fray the expense, for the current year, building of offices for the Privy Council, Treasury, Ste' a Mr. BANKES regretted mach to see such ionnell sums laid out on public buildings, the design of whichil duced so indifferent an effect. A pile of building, the It I A of which he did not approve, was now being erected{ incidental to P. almost opposite to that chaste and beautiful specirneo.;". architecture, the Banquetting-house. [We understood Honourable Member to have alluded to the new buildioige, in and ilea" Downing-street; but as he sp o ke from tt i n u bv the gallery, his observations were very i m p er f e ctly hea Pi eb ' e us.] Two s t or i es , h e o b serve d, h a d b een ra i s ed over the main building, which appeared sufficient to sink it to earth. The Honourable Member then adverted to the 00 5 stitution of the Boaid of Works, and contended that it Gal fur revision and alteration. - hich Colonel DAVIES also complained of the taste in W many of the modern public buildings were conceived looked upon the new palace (Buckingha m H ou se, we 6 ' ll' pose) to be a-disgrace to the country. Sir J. YORKE said, that if there were any fault to b t found with the building to which the Hon. Member r e Dorsetshire had alluded, it could n o t f a i r ly b e pl a ced O its account of the architect. The plans had been laid bef o ,_re ,„, Lords of the Treasury, and had been approved of by gni The Hon. Member for Dorsetshire had criticised the b ll 2. c h ing now ereeting by Mr. Soane, and yet the taste ill ° that Hon. Member had shown in the plan of his own b ll h , ° o was, beyond all doubt, the very worst that had ever seen.—(Much laughter.)—lf an objection had been ID ba j to the balustrade, or if the First Lord of the Treasury told Mr. Smile, that the body of the building should hs; been raised higher, Mr. Soane would have made a lOW 19° and would h a v e i mme di a t e ly t axe d hi s we ll-k no wn geti to inset the intim a ti on th us g i ven . H e repeated, thtt,-ecl Mr. Scans been inf orme d th a t hi s p l an was not aPP`,riv't of, he would cheerfully, an d w ith out d e l ay, have a ltered Mr. HERRIES observed, that the plan had certainly beau approved of by the proper authorities. After a few words from Mr. BANXES and Sir C. 13611" BELL, the resolution was agreed to. , de' The next resolution was f or t h e sum o f 100,0001. t he fray the expence of the repairs at Windsor Castle, for current year. Mr. BANKES, in the course of his observations on the item, took occasion to make some remarks on the I t . palace in St. J ames ' s P ar k. Th e H on. Gentleman h is pressed his astonishment, that any person with eyes in s e head could think of placing a palace in that situation. Ns' expected that the expense would be vastly larger than inter. ded. e it P. ST. J. MILDMAY wished to know whe t could have been better placed? Mr. BANKES—In Hyde Park. thought Mr. M t l ha L MILDMAY—What, 3wlhAeYn individuals‘Vhat, i n the ha dmiedvsitd evidently t L I y on b d e o en n R tilting the wishes of the people, they ought not to be down. - re' Mr. HERRIES said, that the whole expense of ‘ , .. e pairs of Windsor Castle were estimated at not more tb 300,0001. The estimate of the expenses of Bucking; house had had been laid before Parliament, and would 1 1 °` exceedd. Mr. e HUME expected that it would be at least ht 4 , f milli n. Th e H on . Member compl a i ne d that 25 0,000 0 had been tak en f ro m the wood s an d f ores t s , which application of public money without the sanction 0 liament. tia Mr. HUSKISSON said, th a t th e office of the wOl3. A __„u6 forests was c re ated by A c t o f P ar li amen t at the wri t : mendation of a Committee, and the accounts were isiu ot $ fore Parliament, as required, every three years; orl shilling of the revenues was expended without the / 331 2 n0 ledge of Parliament. The income had increased 6,000, to 120,000/. ; and the appropriations fora fund would be shown in the triennial account next yeg r o , After a few further remarks from Mr. Huttg an d GORDON, the resolution was agreed to. or The next resolution was, that 26,160/. be gra07., 1 1 defraying the expence of works for the accommodeo°lo ° both Houses of Parliament, whi c h, a ft er some observaP° from Mr. Iluntx, Mr. BERRIES, and Mr. Ratitogst agreed to. On the resolution for granting 8,000/. in aid of in.- churches and providing residences for the Bisbee the Mr. West Indies, Dric HUME observed, that the revenue of the 13i5.% 0 of Durh am m i g h t h a i e b een re d uce d to 20 , 0001. Per -: num, and the surplus applied to this object. Therelj o peared to b e a di s p os i t i on t o a dd t o the expence bt church, and none to retrench. The British public 014 not to be fleeced year after year in this manner. 40 Mr. WILMOT HORTON said that the revenues of * Bishops were secured by Act of Parliament. Mr. BERRIES, Mr. GORDON, aud • Mr. BlllOgt few words, and the resolution was agreed to. 1 40/ 18,612/. was then vote dtowards completing the Courts at Westminster. 17,979/. towards defraying the expenses of the &' l ' mi ll of the Holyhed-roads. ,000/. for the salari a es of the Officers of the House s °1 Lords and Commons. a. 16,0001. for the expences of th e Houses of Lurd ° , Commons. r 101,1801. to ' ;he fee 19- make good the deficiency in tL „ A of a the offices of the Treasu r y, S ecretar i es o f State , Council, &c. , ia 73,853/. for contingent expenses of messenger s, the departments of the Secretaries of State and D I Council. 7,0001. as a compensation for the commissionetv of in quiry into the state of Education in Ireland. ity 6,000/. as a compensation for the commitasioners of