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IMPERIAL PALIAMENT. H°r./CSE OF LORDS, MAY 4. , Th• }1 '"!. met to-day at half-past Four o'clock. Lord .E''...DON entered shortly a ft er, and took his seat on the " c .olsac.k, beside the Lord Chancellor. Their Lord- Bll!'d were soon joined by the Earl of Redesdale. CATHOLIC CLAIMS. The Bishop of CHESTER presented several petitions from the cou n ty o f L ancaster aga i nst any further conces sions to the Rotnan Catholics. The Marquis of CAMDEN presented a petition from Maidstone against any alteration in the Corr. Laws. Several petitions of a similar nature were presented by Lord YA RBOROUGH. Lord ROLLE presented a petition from a parish in the County of Devon against any concession to the Catholics. STATE OF IRELAND. Lord ELLENBOROUGH, in moving for the returns of which he had given notice, and which he understood there was no intention to withhold, said that he was anxious to ascertain one or two facts connected with the state of Ireland. He wished to know whether any measures were in preparation for the purpose of car rYing into effect the report of the Irish Committee in 1825, as respected the system of Education in that coun try, and the Grand Jury Presentments ? In the course of last Session, a Noble Earl (Liverpool), now unfortu nately absent, observed that the Government had applied its attention to the re-modelling of the Grand Jury System, and that - the Commissioners appointed to inquire into the state of Education were employed in trying an experiment, with a view of seeing how far they could succeed in establishing a system which would please both parties.— The Noble Earl now wished to know, whether the experiment had been tried, and what the result was. Lord GODERICH replied, thlt the Irish Government had for some time been anxiously endeavouring to effect a Reform in the Grand Jury system. With respect to education, he was sure that all must know how anxiously the Commissioners had been at work. They had already presented several reports, and were about to present their final one very shortly. Under these circumstances, the late Secretary for the Home Department, and the Secretary for Ireland, had found it impossible to take any steps until that final report was laid on the table. The Noble Lord complained of the want of courtesy in being called upon of hand to answer questions of this nature without previous notice. The Marquis tf LANSDOWN said that he had been induced to abstain from mentioning the subject during the earlier part of the Session, from the hope that the final report would contain the requisite information. Lord ELLENBOROUGH said, that it was not his in tention to have departed from the ordinary rules of cour tesy, but he really thought that the Noble Viscount would have been able, without any difficulty, to give a general answer to what must have fallen under the general consi deration of the Government. The Returns for which the Noble Lord moved were then ordered. THE NEW ADMINISTRATION. The Earl of WINCHELSEA then rose and said, I wish to know from the Noble Lords who have so recently taken their seats on the opposite side, whether it is their inten tion to bring forward any of the three great Constitutional questions which they have hitherto so ably and so strongly supported ?—(Hear, hear.)—l allude, my Lords, to Par liamentary Reform—the Abolition of Sinecures—and the * Repeal of Corporation and Test Acts.—(Cheers and laugh ter.) If they do not bring them forward I certainly will. Under the existing state of the Administration, of the country, it is, I feel, my duty to quiet the extraor dinary agitation which prevails as to the course they ale about to adopt. We have a Government composed of two parties, who had each violently and, I believe, honestly differed in their opinions--and who entertained sentiments diametricplly Opposite, upon all the great questions that interest the nation. This is a sub ject upon which we ought no longer to remain in suspense, and I am determined to bring to the test the principles of the present Administration. With this view, I now give notice, that on the 11th of June, I will bring forward a motion to the effect that this House resolve itself into a Committee to consider the state of the Nation. (Cheers.)—lt is clear, my Lords, that some extraordi nary alteration has taken place. There has either been on the part of the Members of the Administration, an abandonment of the opinions which hitherto regulated their public life, or else there now exists no unanimity between them.—(Cheers.)—One or other of these positions must be conceded to me ; and with the view of bringing the question to a decided ism - 3, I now move that your Lordships be summoned for Monday the 1 lth of June. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY then rose.—We are informed, my Lords, by public report, that some of the members of the new Administration have been only provisionally placed there, and— The Earl of HARROWBY—My Lords, so irregular a proceeding as this I never heard. A Noble Lord has merely given notice of a motion for a future day— there is no question now before us—l cannot, therefore, allow the Noble Lord to proceed in this irregular manner. —(Hear, hear.) The Earl of LAUDERDALE--I apprehend, my Lords, there is a question before the House, and that question is, that your Lordships be summoned on Monday the 1 1 th of June—(Cheers and laughter.) The Marquis of LONDONDERRY again arose, and, with considerable warmth said—l will not be put down by any Noble Lord on that side of the House. If the Noble Earl who interrupted me, wishes to prevent the expression of my sentiments, he must address himself to a man of a differ ent character and spirit from me. The extreme haste ay" 'eh the Noble Lord attempted to arrest me proves t I was going to say was not likely to he very to him.—( Laughter. )--The Nokle Earl felt rather awawarii,—he is not sure, and he does not wish to have it asked whether the Noble Lords on his right and on his left are to remain there.—(Continued now say that which is publicly declared, namely, that the in dividuals who fill some of the offices of the new Admi nistrations—those for instance, of Secretary for Foreign Affairs andthe Home Department, are not to be permanently fixed there. They are merely placed there until certain Noble Lords find how the campaign is likely to go on. (Laughter. )—Until they find whether they are to march and join, or to fall back and retire.--(Laughter. ) After remarking upon the state of things in this strain for some time, the Noble Marquis proceeded— when I look on the opposite benches and see the motley assemblage, I cannot but conclude that the artificer who formed the administration has divested it of all its ornament and support. It is now a sort of rubbish—(continued laughter) —very dexterously I will admit put together, but with respect to its durability I can not say much. The artificer has placed himself between two opposing parties who will not, I am sure, have enough of strength to keep him floating in the middle.— (Cheers.)—He had untoried a part of the Tories ; and unwhigged a part of the Whigs.—(Great laughter.) When I see the country situated as it is ; when I find that as I go along through this metropolis every man I meet asks in God's name what is to become of us. Can I remain silent? The present Prime Minister has allied himself to those, whom for twenty years, he had been opposed to—nay, more, he has ad mitted them to his Cotmcils.—(Cheers)—There is one part of this subject on which I feel it painful to touch; but the public good is paramount with me, and I must speak my opinion. There is one Noble Friend whom I see opposite, with whom I have long been very intimate, whose honesty, candour, and great qualities I admire--(we believe the Noble Marquis alluded to Lord Goderich)—and sorry am I indeed to find, that he has separated from those individuals with whom he has been closely connected for the last 20 years. I will not go back and ask him how he can recon cile such a state of things; but I think he cannot fairly contemplate them without a feeling of deep pain. Far be it from me to complain of inconsistency; I do not complain I only speak my opinions.—(During the time the Noble Marquis was making these personal allusions he spoke in a low soft voice across the table, so that it was not possible to hear below the bar half what he said.)—l dare say (he continued) I shall be told that I ought not to state these things, but my feelings force me to speak. Such of their Lordships as think to Lord it over the House shall not lord it over me. I have a right to speak what I think, and I will not allow myself to be put down. I did not intend to say one word when I came into the House, and I only rose for the purpose of advising the Noble Lord to postpone his motion. I did not expect to see the Noble Lord so well prepared to put me down, and so long as I enjoy the confi dence of the House, so long I shall stand up in my place and state distinctly and directly my opinion.---(Hear.)! Lord Viscount GODERICH and the Marquis of SALIS BURY rose at the same time, but Lord Viscount Goderich being called for, proceeded—Feeling very warmly, my Lords, some of the remarks of the Noble Lord, but having been only recently introduced among your Lordships, and being one of those persons who have been called by my Noble Friend—for so I must still call him—rubbish, I should be wanting to myself and your• Lordships if I did not say a few words to you. If the Administration is composed of rubbish, I certainly can say for myself, that I will not consent to be beat in detail, and will not enter into discussions incidentally introduced, when we are to take eur trial on the 11 th of June. The Noble Lord may prepare the storm, and let loose the winds that are to blow us from our situations, we shall be pre pared to meet it--(Hear, hear)—and we shall not care a straw for the consequences. I shall say for myself that the only circumstance which put, me in my present situation, which makes me a member of his Majesty's Government, was an anxious desire to prevent the dissolution of the Go vernment. I shall not now go into the details ; but, if I had not yielded, I was told that the Administration would separate. When I was most anxious to leave office, I was pressed to remain. —(Hear, hear.)--I am entitled to say, that I ask only for a fair field and no favour ; and I will abide the result, let it he what it may.—(Cheers.) The Marquis of LONDONDERRY, in explanation, observed, that he did not intend to include the Noble Lord (Goderich) in that phrase to which he seemed to object. He only applied it to that portion of the Administration which had lately come in. The Marquis of ANGLESF,A said, that the explanation which the Noble Lord had given of course applied to him. He was part of the "rubbish," but nothing that could be said in that way would induce him to to enter into a pre mature discusion.—(Hear, from the Treasury Bench.) Lord KING said, that if the Noble Marquis knew any thing of building, he must be aware that it was generally the rubbish which was removed.—(Great laughter.)— However extraordinary the Constitution of the present Ad ministration was in his (Lord King's) opinion, it was both more useful and more ornamental than the old House, which had fallen.—(Hear and laughter.)—He would therefore remind Noble Lords of the expression of a celebrated French General, when he was told of the enemy's inclination to give battle, " I shall not fight" said he " when they wish, but when I will." The Marquis of SALISBURY said, that however the present discussion was deprecated, it had originated in the undue warmth which a Noble Lord opposite had evinced in endeavouring to stifle the observations of his Noble Friend (the Marquis of Londonderry.) [Hear, from the Opposition benches.] That Noble Lord's bong intercourse with the forms of the House might have taught him the impropriety of such interruptions. He confessed that he (the Marquis of Salisbury) was most de sirous to know the truth ofthat report which was in every one's mouth out of doors, namely, that some of the Noble Lords who now sit on the Treasury Bench, had taken office provisionally. Lard HARROWBY rose to explain. The interruption he had given to the Noble Marquess, had been only for the purpose of preserving that order which was so necessary in the discussions of every assembly. As to the ge neral observations which had been made, for his own part, be could add but little to the observations of his Noble Friend (Lord Goderich); like that Noble Lord, if he (Lord Harrowby) had acted in accord ance with his own wishes, he would have withdrawn alto gether from public life. He felt that this step would have been sanctioned by his increasing years ; for he felt that whatever faculties he might have had for the public service were daily diminishing. He had acted, however, on the advice and persuasion of others, who had informed him that the postponement of his intention would be useful to the public service. He could assure their Lordships that in acceding to the advice given him on this subject, he had made a great sacrifice of personal feeling,—(hear,) —and he owned he felt that sacrifice was greatly augment ed by his separation from those with whom he was accus tomtomed to act for many years, and for whom he ever had, and ever would feel the deepest respect and the warmest attachment.—LThe Noble Lord here became evi dently affected.]—lt would be impossible for their Lord ships to estimate his feelings, when he beheld those whom he so much respected and esteemed—(Here his Lordship directed his eyes to the cross-lynich ^n which Lord Eldon sate) sitting apart from him. It was a source of unaffected regret to him, but he acted on principle, and that principle he would be ready to explain on a proper occasion, which occasion the motion of a Noble Lord would afford. He for one, was most happy that such au oppor tunity had been afforded. The Earl of WINCHELSEA said, he would postpone his motion from June 11 to May 31. The Earl of ELDON said, the question had not been put, and therefore the Noble Marquis had been quite in order. The Noble Earl spoke in so low a tone, that he was nearly inaudible below the bar : but we understood him to express himself glad to hear the dedlarations of his Noble Friends, and to express his regret at their sepa ration. It was a curious postponement of a motion, his Lordship concluded, to change it from the 11th of June to May 31.—(A laugh.) _ _ _ The Earl of WINCHELSEA said, he would on Mon day give notice of the day when he should submit his mo tion to their Lordships. Earl SPENCER objected to this course. A motion had been regularly brought before their Lordships, and it could not be disposed of without their Lordships' consent. He had no objection, if the Noble Earl pleased to withdraw his motion, to consent to its being withdrawn. After a short conversation on this point, tila motion was withdrawn, it being understood that the Earl of Winchel sea was, on Monday next, to state on what day he should make his tnotion.—Adjourned till Monday. HOUSE OF COMMONS. Lord LOWTHER brought up the Report of the Com mittee appointed to inquire into the Camelford Election. The Report stated, that the two Sitting Members were duly elected—that the petition against their return was not frivolous or vexatious, nor was the oppdsition thereto. Lord BINGHAM presented a petition from Killarney, in favour of the Catholic Claims. Mr. EGERTON presented a petition from Macclesfield, against the Alehouse Licensing Bill. Mr. CHAPLIN presented a petition from the Coroners of the County of Lincoln, praying for an Increase of their Fees. Mr. ESTCOURT presented a petition from the Magi strates assembled at the last Quarter Sessions for Wilts, praying the House to take into their consideration the Laws relating to the Preservation of Game. He begged to recommend the subject to the serious attention of the Right Hon. Secretary of State for the Home Department, and he felt that that Right Hon. Gentleman would give it his most serious consideration, as it was a question of great importance to the good regulation of the Police of the country. The Hon. Member gave notice that he should, in the coarse of next week, introduce a motion, with the view of referring this subject to a Select Committee up-stairs. Mr. CURTEIS presented two petitions from Freeholders in different Parishes of Sussex, in favour of the Sussex Election Bill. Mr. BURRELL presented a petition to the same effect. Mr. BELL presented a petition from the Inhabitants of several Parishes in the County of Northumberland, against the Importation of Foreign Grain. The same Hon. Mem ber afterwards moved for a Return of the number of Ships and their Tonnage, entered inwards at the Port of Liver pool, from Denmark, Norway, Russia, and Prussia, within the last five years ; and also an Account of the Number and Tonnage of Vessels entered inwards at the same Port from the United States of America during the same period ; and also an Account of the Number and Tonnage of all Vessels entered outward from the same Port to the above mentioned places.—Ordered. Sir E. KNATCHBULL presented a petition from the Freeholderi of certain parishes in the Eastern part of the county of Sussex, in favour of the Sussex Election Bill. Sir H. PARNELL moved for an Account of the Bills and Notes of the Bank of England, in circulation within the List three years, ending on the 6th April, 1827, die.. tinguishing the weekly issue of the same. Mr. WODEHOUSE presented a petition from the Justices assembled at the last Quarter Sessions for the county of Norfolk, in favour of the principle of the Bill now in progress through the other House upon the subject of the Game Laws. Mr. STUART WORTLEY gave his cordial support to this petition, and was rejoiced to see that a spirit of con viction was now woricin its way through the country, that the-present Game Laws ought no longer to be suffered to continue in their existing state. The proof that this con viction was well-founded was unfortunately furnished in too great abundance in the records of our assizes and ses sions ; and from the evidence of these, he was prepared to say that those who expected to be able to continue the pre sentesystem much longer would be quite unable to do so, let them use what efforts they might for that purpose. The petition was ordered to be received and printed. Mr. WODEHOUSE presented a petition from the Coroners of Norfolk, praying for an increase of their fees. Mr. J. RUSSELL presented a petition from the Roman Catholic inhabitants of Kinsale, praying for Catholic Emancipation. Sir 'l'. D. ACLAND presented a petition from the Coroners of the county of Devon, praying for an increase of their fees. He observed, that one of these Coroners had furnished him with a statement, from which it appeared that his income, for the last year, amounted only to 74/. 18s. sd. Mr. HUSKISSON presented a petition from the Mayor and Corporation of Liverpool, against the Alehouse Licensing Bill. SUPPLIES.-THE NEW MINISTRY. Mr. BERRIES moved, that the House resolve itself into a Committee of Supply. Sir T. LETHBRIDGE rose from the Opposition Bench : I hope, he said, the House will excuse me, if I take this op portunity of objecting to to the motion of the Hon. Secre tary to the Treasury at the present moment, and under existing cireumstancet. I entertain opinions as to the situa tion of his Majesty's Government, and as to the situation of the country, arising out of the situation of the Government, which will oblige me, upon many occasions (perhaps too many, in the judgment of some Hon. Members, for whom I entertain the highest respect) to resist measures to be brought forward by the Right Hon. Gentleman now hold ing office under the Crown. I think there is nothing more within the scope of Parliamentary practice, than to oppose the grant of supplies, whenever it is thought that those supplies will not be entrusted to safe and proper hands.—(Hear, hear !)—I do not want prece dents for such a course—it is strictly Parliamentary and Constitutional, whenever objections are felt to the existing Government. I do not suppose it will be expected of me— for I do not expect it myself—that I shall be able to make out a case to justify the stopping of all supplies to the King's Ministers.—(Hear! and laughter).—l should de ceive myself, and, therefore, deceive the House, if I ima gined I could already take up so determined a position ; but I feel it my duty to take this step, and I shall execute my duty to the Commons of England in my own way. I shall proceed in my opposition in that manner which seems to me expedient and justifiable. Certainly, for one, within the last three or four days, I have felt considerable anxiety and pain from the course adopted with reference to the new Administration, by those who formerly sat on this side of the House. It may be a matter of some difficulty for me to explain exactly what I mean on this subject—(Cheers and laughter),—inasmuch particularly as I do not see the Right Hon. Gentleman the first Minister of the Crown in his seat, nor the Hon. and Learned Gentleman who has taken his place on the third bench behind (Mr. Brougham). The new Ministry have now the great benefit and advantage of his (Mr: B.'s) support, and he took the most prominent part of the debate of last night, which, I will undertake to say, has interested, and will interest, the House and the country as deeply as any discussion ever heard within these walls.—(Cheers.)—Their absence may put me to some little difficulty, and a part of what I had to say will not, on this account, be forthcoming. I may, nevertheless, give my reasons why the House ought not to place confidence in his Majesty's Government, as at, present constituted, by granting supplies which, under more favourable circum stances, would be voted upon credit, in the ordinary course of business. There still seems some doubt whether the Administration is even now formed ; rumour says, that it is only provisionally made up, and it is not easy to come at the fact. If it be only provisionally completed, I will ven ture to say, that it is the most unconstitutional and unpre cedented proceeding ever recorded in the annals of the country. I have not heard that rumour contradicted, and perhaps no direct question has yet been put from this side of the House upon the point. if it were put, it might be treated in the manner in which the question of last night was treated by the First Minister of the Crown. I was hurt and shocked to see the manner in which the answer was given ; but as the Right Hon. Gent. is not present, I am precluded from saying all I feel upon the subject. I will take an opportunity of mentioning it when he is pressnt.— I apprehend that questions may be_put—questions always have been put, and those who have sat on this side of the House, in the exercise of their discretion, have not failed, whenever occasions offered, to subject the King's Govern ment to interrogatories. I confess I never heard such lan guage as was used last night by the First Minister of the Crown, held before ; he uttered only a single sentence, conveying indeed all he intended to convey, but it could not be heard with satisfaction even by the warmest of the friends by whom he was surrounded. For one, I may say that such conduct made an impression upon me not easily to he forgotten. If, then, the present Government is only to be provisional, I shall be happy to hear how it is to be conducted. I shall be happy to hear whether the current rumours are true er false. I shall be happy to find that the Calneet is framed e :t is meant to stand, and that I shall know to what Minister I may have occasion to resort, as the representative of a large body of the people. If the Government be not piovisionally appointed, perhaps the ground for my resistance to the Committee of Supply may not be so strong ; but if it turns out that places are only kept for others who have not yet condescended to accept them, I ask the House what confidence ought to be placed in a Government so constituted ?—(Hear, hear, hear.) — If the House feels with me, it will refuse to put large sums of the public money into the hands of such persons. I cer tainly now occupy one of the last positions I ever expected to find myself in. I never thought I should be called upon to oppose any Government in the manner in which I am now by duty required to do. I will do it in spite of all the taunts--in spite of all the tirade of ridicule—in spite, I might almost say, of all the load of insult, attempted to be fastened upon those who manfully discharge theissduty,-e -(Cheers.)—For one, I will notbe so put down; forone, I sit in this House as the Representative of all the Commons of the United Empire, and I will take every opportunity I think good and fitting, to express my sentiments in oppo sition to the course the Government may take, or be ex pected to take.—l cannot account for the extraordinary combination I saw opposite to me last night. In fact, I ob served the Right Hon. Gentleman occupying, as he ought, the first place, and professing and adhering to one set of opinions, and behind him a set of individuals giving him their separate and collective support, who hitherto have been remarkable for their constant and constitutional op position. Great and powerful I admit that support to be, but in what way the head of the Ministry entitled himself to it, has never yet been explained. If a Government is to be composed of such opposite, clashing, and inconsistent materials, on what ground can it lay claim to the confidence of the Representatives of the People of England--(Hear, hear.)—Let me ask if it is not now more than ever desir able at this moment, that the Administration eheuld be composed of men known to agree upon the various grand and essential questions touching the most vital interests of the State ? If at any period such a Government were ne cessary, it is more peculiarly so at the present juncture, and yet it is evident that the Members of the present Cabinet and their adherents hav e scarce ly a single opi nion in common. If the Roman Catholics hoped at any time that emancipation was not very far removed, and that' the chance es as the greater owing to the re cent changes, what must he their confusion and dismay when they read what has already passed in Parliament relating to their interests? I suppose they do read in some way or other the debates of this Hcuse ; people in the remotest corners of the empire do know all that is said and done here, and what must the people of Ireland think of their present abandoned condition ? Year after year they have been told by the advocates of their claims, and more than all by the Right Hon. Gentleman himself, that the safety of the Empire was in danger, if concession were not instantly made. In the very last debate on the question, this argument was used even by some Hon. Friends of mine in the most impressive tone, and in a manner that could not be misunderstood. Yet now mark the contrasted de -1 clarations from the first Minister of the Crown, and from those who, though not in office, volunteer their assistance. They give their support on the pretence that they hope thereby that the Catholic Question will be ultimately car ried ; but the course of the debates within the last few nights shews that they can hope so no longer. No man can doubt that it is not to be brought forward by the Go vernment as a Cabinet question ; and although in the Cabi net there is such an overwhelming majority in favour of the Catholic Question, and although the topic is one of such vital and momentous importance to the very existence of Ireland, it is never to be brought forward either by the Right Honourable Gentleman, his coadjutors in office, or his supporters out of office—(Hear, hear.) — Upon this subject we have seen differences between indi viduals illustrious for their rank and character; those who opposed the Catholic Claims have retired, and those who supported them have retained their places. The Right Hon. ' Gentleman was thus placed in rather an awkward predi cament, and he was obliged to look about for assistance in various quarters. He had resorted to those who contended that concession ought to be made as the condi- - tion of their taking office; and if they have taken office, and are nevertheless determined not to agitate or endeavour to carry the Question, I say they are deceiving and impos ing upon the party which has reposed confidence in them. What chance then, can there be of pacification in Ireland? Dissentions, they say, are only to be allayed by granting Emancipation, yet Emancipation is not to be granted or even discussed, and Ireland of course, according to their own sheaving, cannot be pacified. Discontent in Ireland must be increased by this attempt to delude the people, a delsision too shallow not to be discovered. There is now no more chance of carrying the Catholic Question than there was before the recent change in Administration. That is the great leading point to which the House must look as the test of sincerity. Before the House can place confidence in the new Ministry, it ought to see that it is composed of such materials as are accord ant and likely to endure. All that has been said about the Catholic Claims now looks only like some deep artifice to conceal matters that will not hear the light. We have been told, in some quarters, that, if this discordant union had not been attempted, the Crown would have been left unsupported, without the means of procuring servants to fill the vacant offices ; but, in another place the mist has been cleared away, and truth has shone forth in all her purity and splendour. Statements reflecting the highest honour upon them have been made by the most distinguished individuals ; and they have shewn that they, at least, are implicated in no charge. One illustrious no bleman, the Duke of Wellington, has come out of the in vestigation triumphantly for himself, and disgracefully for those who would cast upon him unmerited imputations. I trust the noble person to whom I allude, and who is the object of such general veneration and admiration, will soon be enabled to resume that station and those functions for which he is so peculiarly qualified, under an Administra tion which can be regarded with confidence. Men ought to be tried by their public principles. I know, indeed, that his Majesty is entitled to call for the services of any one he pleases : but the Constitution has thrown a dilemma upon his Majesty, when be is obliged, in some cases, to choose those for his Ministers of whose principles he may be doubtful. How can his Majesty know what may be the principles of the present Administration, when he finds that they are supported by such gentlemen as lately sat on this side, without any satisfactory— (The Honourable Baronet was here interrupted by peals of laughter from all parts of the House, caused by the en trance of Mr. Brougha:o. The laughter continued for some minutes after the Lion. and Learned Gentleman had taken his place. Silence having been at length restored, the Hon. Baronet resumed thus)—l was not aware, at first, of the cause of all this merriment; I now find, how ever,. that it was caused by the entrance of a very clever actor, but one not at all new in this House, though quite new in his present place.—( A laugh.)—My Honourable and Learned Friend—l trust I may call him so, for, out of the House, at least, we are friends—is a man of admitted ability ; there is no man whose talents I deprecate more— (A laugh)—for he has got a way of turning every thing into ridicule beyond any thing I have ever met.---(A loud laugh.)—l defy the House to find upon paper his equal, or to name his felled'.—(Loud laughter. )—With respect to myself, I shall say I will vote according to my conscience ; I will go farther, and say, if there is one thing more than another I detest, it is speaking in this House.—(Roars of laughter.) I will go still farther, and say—[notwithstand ing all the splendid ridicule of the Hon. and• Learned Gen tleman—l am not sure I ever felt any of it—(A laugh)-1 have never felt it from any body—(Continued laughter)— but I have heard it applied to others pretty lustily, and I have pitied them.—(Cheers and laughter.)—This may create a laugh ; but the person must know very little of his duty to himself or his country, if such treatment does not spur him on rather than deter from his course.]—l will say no more than that, as long as I shall be able to stem a torrent which carries with it so much evil, mis chief, and ultimate destruction to the country—(Cheers and laughter)—even if I shall be only feebly supported I will do it—if unsupported I will do it. Feeble support ! There will be support of a very different kind. There will be others found, and those benches will be very shortly filled with them, who possess consistency, talent, and that species of ability which will be answerable to the occasion. I have now, I believe, said as much as I ought—(A laugh)—more than I intended. But, although I have not the good fortune to see the first Mini ster of the Crown in his place, there will be many oppor tunities of debating and talking over the grievances of our present situation.—(Hear, and a laugh.)—l shall, there fore, conclude, by saying, that I see no occasion for fixing another day for going into the Committee of Supply, for it is impossible, while the Governuaent shall continue con atituted as at present, that the House can think of voting any supplies ; and if not, where is the use of fixing a day? One word respecting that which was called, the other night, factious_opposition—l will candidly admit, that the motion made by the Hon. Member (Mr. Dawson), last night, was not one that I would make, (Hear, hear,) and the best proof of my sincerity in this declaration is, that I did not support it.—(Hear.)—l did, however, give a few cheers. (Roars of laughter. )—I admit, that I am one of the factious, one of those prepared to oppose the Right Hon. Gentleman's new Government. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman (Mr. Brougham) gays, he will not accept of office, but he has no righeto refuse giving the benefit of his talents to his country. (Hear.) —In return for this declaration, I hope the Honourable and Learned Gentleman will sit quiet to night, and allow all I have said to have its full weight.— (A loud laugh.)—l think now, after the speech I have made, I may be content to sit quiet, and to have every word I have "said, attended to.—(Renewed laughter. )—I spoke of an Administration—there is no Admi nistration yet formed, for there are people outside the door waiting to come in—(A laugh)—and that is such a state of things, as renders it impossible for me to give to the Right Hon. Gentleman and his friends, that support and that confidence which I should otherwise have; but, by-the bye, I was not inclined to give them much in any case.— (Continued laughter.)—l admired the statement of the Hon. Baronet (Sir F. Burdett) last night, but if he at tempts to bear down or abandon his principles, I am at issue with him. I have a great public duty to perform.— (Loud laughter.)—(lslere the Hon. Baronet highly com plimented Sir F. Burdett oa his talents and the indepen dence of his principles, contending, however, that the junction of himself and his friends with the Administra tion, looked like an abandonment of their former prin ciples.)---The Right Hon. Gentleman whom they have joined is a rank Tory, who says, he will oppose Parliamen tary Reform, and the repeal of the Test Act ; and of whom there is not a Whig in the country who will not say, " By —, this is not the man for us."—(Roars of laughter.)---There is not a man in Parliament better qua lified for a leader than the Hon. Baronet—and I have seen him carry questions in this House which no other *person could—but I deprecate any bearing down or abandonment of principle, for if he desert them, the people of England, when they see five or six fat offices vacant, will say, " Hal loo ! What is this for ?"—(Loud laughter.).—l answer— For him who shall do most. All the great questions of the Session are hung up—all those which filled the Parlia mentary Paper have disappeared, been put off, or struck out. The people will then naturally ask, " Why, then, does Parliament continue to sit ?" Because the money is not voted—and this brings me to the great point with which I set out.—(A laugh.)—l, for one, will oppose an Administration which professed to carry great questions while out of office, and who, when they conic in, do not mean to have any of those questions agitated. I thank the House for the attention with which I have been fa voured, and hope I shall meet similar indulgence, should I, on a future occasion, as a plain country gentleman, attempt to express my opinion.—(The Hon. Baronet concluded by repeating his determination to oppose the postponement of the Committee.) Mr. HUSKISSON—After the very entertaining exhi bition with which the Hon. Baronet, who has just sat down, has favoured the House, I should not have added one word, had I not perceived that the benches have be come more full than when he began—and the only reason why I speak at all, is to inform those Hon. Gentlemen who were not present when the question was put, what is the nature of that question. It isnot a question of a grant of money—it is not a question of going into a Committee of Supply.-.:is is not a question of that nature, on which constitutional opposition has frequently been made to Mi nisterial measures—it is merely a question, at the desire of my Right Hon. Friend at the head of the Treasury, to postpone, to a future day, the Committee of Supply ; and which, if carried, would have afforded the Hon. Baronet an opportunity, at a proper season, to state the reasons of his opposition, and in a more regular way than that which be has chosen. [Sir Thomas Lethbridge here said, across the table, that he would take the same opportunity again if he pleased. ]—The object of the Hon. Baronet is, no doubt, to interrupt the supplies; and if he succeed, perhaps, ano ther favourite object with him, a dissolution of Parliament, will also be achieved--for, if Government cannot obtain the supplies, they must take some other course,.—(Hear.) —But I am sure it is unnecessary to address one word to the House to induce its concurrence in the proposed post ponement of the Committee of Supply.—(Hear.)—l think the Hon. Baronet might have chosen a more fit opportu nity for delivering that speech which he has been a fort night in preparing, and not to have taken this occasion to entertain the House with a discourse which proved one thing at least—that the principles of the Hon. Baronet are much more objectionable than those of the Government which he has attacked.—(Hear.) —l think the grounds of opposition taken by the Hon. Baronet are ludicrous one of them, that an Honourable and Learned Gentleman has refused office Now, Ido entreat the Hon. and Learned Member for Winchelsea, if he did intend to have drawn upon his inexhaustible stores of ridicule (as they have been described by the Hon. Baronet), that he will refrain from doing so—for the Hon. and Learned Gentleman himself w'll see we have had quite enough of the ridiculous al ready.—(Loud cheers, and continued laughter.) Mr. PELHAM supported the course pursued by the Hon. Baronet. Mr. WILLIAM PEEL said, that he offered himself with the greatest deference to the House, but he wished to say a word as to the reasons which had induced him to retire from public office. In addition to the reasons which had induced his Right Hon. Relative, he had no confidence what ever in the Right Hon. Gentleman who was at the head of the present Administration, but his confidence was in those who had resigned, and who had much fuller heads and more regular minds than that Right Hon. Gentleman. When he saw him now surrounded and supported by vi sionary theorists, and political economists, and men who professed what were called the liberal principles of the day, he could not look, without alarm and apprehension, on the perils to which the country was exposed. A greater delusion had never been practised upon the country than the appointment of this Cabinet, one half of whose Mem bers would, in the, space of six weeks, not be in their places. If other Noble Lords were to come in, why did they not do so at once? Since the office of Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs was certainly one of the last to be trifled with —(Hear, hear.) -4-the great ground of his objection was this that there was no security for the Proteeiakt stabil& ment, when the Right Hon. Gentleman had the filling up of these offices. There was unquestionably a great sacri fice of principle on one side or the other. An Hon. Ba ronet (Sir G Warrender) had even gone. the length of sa crificing his dinner the other day in order to support the Administration; he did not mean to say that the Hon. Baronet had actually mentioned dinner, but only alluded to the time of the evening at which he spoke. He knew his own imperfection of language, and to the charge of not being a distinguished public speaker he pleaded guilty; but he must at the same time say, that if he had been ex tremely greedy of office, he might have been in office much sooner than he was. Sir G. WARRENDER observed, that he did not mean to abandon his dinners for the sake of the present Administration, but intended to continue his dinners and all his social amusements; and hoped, that l►e and the Hon. Gentleman who spoke last would, when this Session was over, again meet at their dinners and other social amusements.—(A laugh.) Lord CASTLEREAGH contended; that he was inde pendent—and independent in a much higher degree than those who had sat on the Opposition Benches before. He could not reconcile it to the duty he owed his constituents to give the present Administration any support whatever, though on one question they would have no cause to doubt his cordial co-operation. He hoped, however, that that question would be put on its own proper footing, and not tampered with.—(Hear.)—He would not consent that the interests of Ireland should be subservient to any private feelings or party views. —(Cheers.) —lt was the duty of Government to let her know what she was to have, and hew they meant to treat her. He bad been only a short time in that House, but he confessed that the things he saw passing made him tremble for the safety of the State —(Cheers.) There might be some members who knew more of the detail and management, and trickery that was going on.—(Hear, hear.) But he had yet to learn on what foundation the Government of this country stood at the present moment.—(Cheers.) What, he asked, did his Majesty's Ministers mean to do? How would they treat the question of Parliamentary Reform? He bore witness, cheerfully, to the great talents of the Right Hon. Gentleman at the head of the Treasury, and to his since rity in the advocacy of the Catholic Claims, and much he honoured that sincerity, being thebest part ofthe Right Hon. Gentleman's political career ; but he trembled for the Right Hon. Gentleman's perilous situation. He was on the brink of an abyss, and if he fell, malediction would be on his head.—(Hear, }fear.) Till he (Lord Castle reagh) understood in what position the Government was placed, he must hold his support from it. He did so from no hostile feeling, but he conceived that he should not otherwise do his duty as au independent Member, which he was ; for he had been returned without any pledge, either to the late, or the present administration. He he sitated not to avow that he would pursue a course of un compromising and unqualified opposition to the tesselated pavement of the Treasury Bench.—(Hear, hear.) The motion was then agreed to. The other Orders of the Day were disposed of, and the House adjourned. DEAF AND DUMB ASYLUM. The supporters and friends of this laudable institution met yesterday, to celebrate their anniversary at the City of London Tavern, when his Royal Highness the Duke of Gloucester presided on the occasion. After dinner, " Benedictus" was ably sung by Messrs. Leate, C. Taylor, Goulden, and Masters Nicholls and Reeve, when the usual healths were proposed and cordially received. After the health of his ROYAL HIGHNESS had been drunk, he said, in returning thankL, that it was twenty years since he had the satisfaction of laying down the first stone of that iestitutiou. Then it contained fifty of their afflicted fellow-creatures; now they had augmented their number to 220. It was gratifying to observe the progress the institution had made : during tht first five years, the admissions amounted to 36, and they had, ever since, con tinued gradually to increase; so that, during the last five years, no less than 255 had been admitted. Last year there had been a falling off of six or seven hundred sub scribers, and this deserved their serious inquiry. The Deaf and Dumb Asylum was not an ordinary charity; there were charities for relieving the poor, but here all this was not only done, but the dumb were taught to speak. He had had a letter put into his hands, which he should not take up their time in reading : it was a letter written by a sister to a brother educated in the Asylum. The feelings which it contained, and the language in which it was written, spoke loudly in their favour, and of the com forts the children experienced. The children were then introduced, with whom his Royal Highness condescendingly and kindly conversed ; and two of them recited some verses written for the occa sion. The public are not, perhaps, generally aware that the objects of this institution are both deaf and dumb at the time of their reception, and that they are, by a pecu liar method of education, taught to speak. As they can not hear themselves, they are consequently not able pro perly to modulate the voice, but their action was beauti fully appropriate, and their crude delivery spoke to the heart more forcibly than the most harmonious oration that ever the lips of eloquence pronounced. Several able speeches were made in the course of the evening. The Treasurer, speaking of the late Rev. John Townsend, said, in him they had lost a most inestimable friend and benefactor, one who through ale g period of his life had conferred on that Institution the most essen tial benefit, and given it a inc.t bountiful support—and announced a donation from his Royal Highness the Duke of Gloucester of 20 Guineas, being his 21st donation ; her Royal Highness the Duchess of Gloucester, 20 Guineas; Sir W►n. Ashburton, 20 Guineas; Lady Ashburton, 10 Guineas; C. N. Palmer, Esq., M.P., 10 Guineas; and many other liberal donations. SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. NEWMARKET FIRST SPRING MEETING, 1827. FRIDAY, XIAY 4. The Newmarket Stakes of 50 sove. each, h. ft. colts, Sst. 71b. fillies, Bst. 21b. D.M. the owner of the second horse to receive 100 sovs. out of the Stakes. Mr. Payne's ro. f. by Rainbow—Scheherazade 1 Sir J. Shelley's c. Maresfield, by Antar—Tawny 2 Mr. Wyndham's Gaberlunzie, brother to Elfrid D. of Portland's c. by Ti res i as --Oriana D. of Grafton's br. c. L a ti mer , by Merlin—Piquet 0 D. of Grafton's eh. c . Zoffani, brother to Zinc c. Lord Exeter's ch. Atticus, by COMM 0 _ _ Mr. Rush's b. c. by Merlin.:—liheda Mr. H. Jones's b. L Pandarus Duke of Rutland names c. Carthusian, by Comm .... 0 Fifteen paid.-10 to 1 eget S c heheraaade-5 to 1 aget Maresfield-6 to 1 aget Gaberlunzie-8 to 1 agst Oriana_ 11 to 8 agst Carthusian. It was not till after several false starts that they were got off, but when that was accomplished, Scheherazade went off at a good bat. Maresfield and Carthusian being close at her heels ; she soon shook them off, got the race at her command, and won easy by three or four lengths ; rode by Conolly. The event of this race is another proof of the superiority of the mares. Match--R. DI. 200, h. ft. Lord Tavistock's b. c. Half-moon, Set. 21b. . I Lord Exeter's ch. c. Atticus, by Comns, Bet. 71b.... 2 6 to 5 on Half Moon. Match-100. First half of Ab.M. Mr. Payne's Helenus, Sat. 71b. Mr. Udny's Tarandus, Bst. Match—T.Y.C. h. ft. 50 Bova. Lord Anson's Noureddin, Bst. 71b. rec. ft. Gen. Grosvenor's ch. f. Spite, by Tiresiaa---Sprite pd Match—T.Y.C. 50, h. ft. Lord Jersey's Ariel, Set. 71b rec. ft. Mr. Mill's Lunacy, 7st. The Meeting concluded with the above races, though it cannot be said to have equalled the Craven, either in the number of the races or the company, it has been very little inferior to it in importance. A very good reason may be given for the attendance being less numei one, in the fact of the two Houses meeting on Tuesday and Wednesday, and in the consequent necessity, upon many of our regu lar visitors, to attend their Parliamentary duties. The races were over early to-day, and in about an hour after the town resumed its accustomed quiet, so rapid were the departures. BRIGHTON, MAY 3.—DEATH OF LADY CALTHORPE.—Soxne months since, this truly amiable Lady arrived here, in the hope of bene fiting her health, and was soon after joined by her son, Lord Calthorpe. The malady, how ever, under which her Ladyship suffered, was not to be subdued ; and, we grieve to state, that it had a fatal termination about four o'clock on Tues day morning. The higher circle of society, by which, and deservedly, her Ladyship was held in profound respect, deplor4 the event with undis guised sorrow. The poor have to lament the loss of a liberal and compassionate friend. VOTIZION INTELLIGtNCE. FRENCH PAPERS. (From the Constitutionnen t 1 if " On returning to the Tuileries after the rev i e w., King said to the Marshals who surrounded him—' 111 ". i might have passed off better, but upon the whole I am 1;0'1 fled.' Marshal Oudinot then asked the King's permission to mention in the order of the day his Majesty's satisfactio n , His Majesty consented, but wished to see the draught in, the order of the day. At nine o'clock the Marshal b rouo the draught to the King, who approved it. The 00 1 was accordingly made out. " At two o'clock in the morning the Marshal was call up to be informed of the ordinance. Neither his Majee t i nor the Dauphin were present at the Council in which the, ordinance was agreed to, notwithstanding the opposition' some members. We are assured that three m e rnbertl: posed it. The majority of the council waited on the me to communicate the result of the deliberation.. " TO THE EDITOR OF THE CONSTITUTIONNEL , " PARIS, MAY 1.-Sir-1 have mai in the Jowl' de Paris of April 30, that a National Guard, belonging the 7th Legion, having left the ranks, gave utterance to improper language. As I know that only one National Guard of that Legion left the ranks, I owe it to truth to declare that I am that person, and that the only "'off" which I spoke, and which were spoken—respe ct l spoken—were these :—' Sire, permit your National Guar to cry Vive la Charte r The pretended injunction t° leave the ranks was not given as far as regards me. , o " ALPH. V—., a disbanded National Guard. (From the Moniteur of Wednesday, May 2•) (NON -OFFICIAL PART.) " PARIS, MAY I.—We had intended to insert to-da/: the narrative of the facts which we had collected respect il t the review of the National Guards; but all the jour'aF having given a considerable number of these afflicting d' tails, we have not thought it necessary to publish du! which we have left in oblivion ; and we think that the'', accounts are fully sufficient to enable the public to 1 00 and to appreciate what passed. " The Count de Bray, Envoy Extraordinary and Agi - Mister Plenipotentiary of Bavaria, has just ended his tO iB' , sion to France, and was admitted to-day to take leave 0) the King in a private audience. His Majesty, desiring ° give that Mi n i s t er a disti n guished proof of his satisfact O with the manner in which he has conducted himself do t " ing the whole time that he has resided at his Court, appointed him Grand Cross of the Royal Order of Legion of Honour, and was pleased to present him the signia with his own hand." (From the Journal des Debate of Wednesday.) - PARIS, MAY 1.-The English Ministry is at lengt h constituted. If the measures which pr ece d e d its definitiv e organization have not produced entrance to the Coufle il i of the Marquis of Lansdown, they have at least ensure" his support, and that of his friend's, to the Administrs" tion of Mr. Canning. Scarcely weakened by the doe' tion of some of its former friends, and fortified by e n position which sometimes balanced with it the strength ° the Government, when this Administration, which was re' presented as tottering, presents itself before the Parham:o l4 far from having to calculate the doubtful chances of a sue' cess, the question was where the perils would arise? Let us acknowledge that, from the first moment, we have 1 3 ° admitted them. While the first place in the Council vs's ° disputed, we pointed out Mr. Canning as the politica! he ir of Lord Liverpool. To those who imagined they saw hi° sinking beneath the rival portion of the Cabinet, we au" swered by announcing his elevation. To the fears of some , and the hopes of others, we answered, with respect to the delays necessarily produced by the re-organization of a 1 0 nistry, we opposed the confidence that nothing could aris e from them but a community of concessions favourable ri7 the desired union ; and to those who calculated only on the violent contests in the Parliament, we repeat, with rob dence, Mr. Canning's success is certain. We congratu late England and France on the event, convinced, as We are, that the similarity of institutions can at least bala 3 l between two nations geographical rivalship or comraere P competition. (From the Courier Francais of Wednesday.) PARIS, MAY 1.-6-SITUATION AND CALCULATIONS 0 " THE MINISTERS.-The Moniteur, in its non-official Pot , has thought proper to contradict the report of the Dauphi n not having been present at the Council of Sunday evening+ and the Duke de Doudeauville appears to have assured: several creditable persons that his Royal Highness was not present. It is said, that the Bishop of Hermopolis joked with the Duke de Doudeauville in opposing Messrs. Ville'' , Corbiere, Clermont Tonnere. Peyronnet, and Damas. , It is said, that M. Villele did not like the Duke ma ce ' because he thought him a greater favourite at Monrouge than himself. His successor in the place whence he 4 ' l : retired, must be chosen; but whence will he be taken , Prince Polignac is mentioned, who can no longer remain in London after the secret war he has carried on agai n ' t . Mr. Canning. It has also been thought, that M. Dao )33 insufficiency for Foreign Affairs would eause him to be transferred to the King's Household. NEW DETAILS RESPECTING THE LAST COUNCIL.--.l t said 111. Valle declared to the King, that after the insult he had received under his windows, he could not rema ii ,,' Minister, and that after contending against this preten deu resistance, the King consented to the measure of disba nd ' ing the National Guard, in order to preserve M. Villele' This discussion between the King and his Minister lasted , it is said, three-quarters of an hour. A preparatory Council was held at the house of M. de Girbiere, and the' ) the measure was really determined on before the Minister,' repaired to the Tuileries. The Dauphin was not presel at the Council ; and th e Ki ng , lik e th e p u bli c , on ly heal' of the measure by reading the Moniteur. There is some idea of forming a Commission at th e , house of the Minister of the Interior, to revive the Natio nal Guard, with some modifications. It has been, it is said , mentioned, to the Duke' de Reggio, who has rejected with disdain this patching up. (From the F toile, dated Thursday, May 3.) " Pallas, MAY 2.—Respect forbids us to place afive t g the Lies of the Day,' all th e p reten d e d news g i ve n by t ue liberal papers this morning. There are names in Frau"' which can never be mingled with the disputes of the jou r nals, and have no need to characterize the reports to wh icj we allude, in order that the public may do them justice. " A letter from Barcelona, of the 29th of April, saY e r - ', " Every thing is tranquil from the banks of the Li' bregat to the frontiers; the bands in the mountains coo:: tinue to disperse. All that is said of the country about Tarragona, and other districts on the left bank of the Ein .° ' must be understood of the first risings, which no longer exist. An order from the Government, commands th e decrees of August, 1823, to be applied to those who 4 41 i be taken with arms in their hands—that is to say, nothiog is required but to prove their identity to shoot them with out further investigation.' " To all that has been lately said and written, it 'lnl et he added that the people of Barcelona, confiding i n _the wisdom of the authorities, have not seemed to pay any attention to the events which threatened the whole province' They have remained perfectly calm. 'f he news from those parts in which the flame of sedition was not yet kindled as the agitators wished, continue to be satisfactory." (From the Frontiers of Spain, April 25.) " The Mar,p6s de Chaves and Isis Lady have arrived at Irun. The Marchioness is ill, and, notwithstanding het indisposition, the Spanish authorities had received o rder , not to allow her to stop. " Our frontiers are tranquil : nothing announces, as AO' expected, that the troubles in Catalonia extend into Arra' gon, which enjoys profound peace."—Echo du Midi. • FRENCH Forms, May 2.—Five per Cents. 100 f. 35('' Four per Cents., 91f.. 50c. ; Three pe r C en t s . '7of. s° . ' Bank Stock, 2,0201. ; R en t es de Naples, 77f. 40c. A VESTRY HELD ON A TOMBSTON .--- , There is no church in th e par i s h o f N urne y, i n the coun t y of Kildare. It w as l ate l y, h owever , t h oug h t properto assemble a vestry it, for the purpose of levying taie f ' -- What is called the " churchyard" is next to the chall e " - a yard, and to this " churchyard" did Colonel B a ggot 110 some followers betake themselves, just as Mass was oferi "lhey proceeded to a tombstone, that covered the ashe' one Richard Deering, a poor Papist. The Protestants as sembled were—the Rev. Wm. Cox, parson of Kildar e ' Colonel Baggot, Edw. Baggot, brother to the Colonelc;i George Fleming, Thomas Fleming, George Gibbey, an Sergeant Grant, of Police. These persons so asera bled round the tombstone, were held to constitute a vest r y' and they immediately nominated two of themselves! namely, Edw. Baggot and George Fleming, churchwelh dens. It is to be borne in mind that there is no ellu re t at all in this parish, yet the vestry, after the appointmeo of churchwardens, voted four months' salary as eler l ‘Z r the church, to Thomas Fleming, and also voted .10/• the pu rchase of a Bible and three' B oo k s o f Con wl° l , e - Prayer, and also a hook with parchment leaves, for t h e registry of births, &c. all for the use of the n on-exiethl church. It seems that the salary of Thomas Fleming, 11; clerk of the imaginary church, is 101. So much for th , provisions of the New V es t ry A ct. Freeman's Jou rna l ' A little girl hearing it said that she was boi l on the King's birth-day, took no notice of it the time, but in a clay or two after, asked her ther, if she and the King were twins.