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Navy, &a. do _hereby give notice, that on 6 eve tender e 14th o f J une•next, t h ey w ill b e rea d y to Perebl Writing (sealed up), and treat with such requ : ir ed B a f s or in ay 'de perform the LIGHTERAGE for 'r,„,, 4 the Victualling Service in the River Thames, fur t hey , ve :donths certain, from the 31st July next, and tei • Th Atil three months notice shall be given for the ": --- "* : 100 of the Contract. And also, with such Per -1)57-s,as Will undertake to furnish whatever VEGETABLE`; , denu.dA, for the use of his Majesty's Ships and , els at De,:t.; rd and Woolwich, for Three Years, from said 31st ak, next. The Conditions of the Contracts may be seen at this Office. Each Tender must specify the price in words at length, gbe delivered before One o'Clock on the day appointed, nd mu s t be accompanied by a L e tt er s i gne d b y two re- Ponsible Persons engaging to become bound with the .Party tendering in the penal sum of 5001. for the due per iorrnance of the Contract for Lighterage ; and of 1001. for the due execution of that for Vegetables. The Person who makes the Tender., or some P erson on hi s behalf, must at to 4ftswer '.vhen called for. M. WALLER CLIFTON. TDriKE OF YORK'S MONUMENT. a. FIFTEENTH LIST o f SUB 'SCRIPTIONS, for the Week en di ng SATURDAY, t 316 O'n June. Committee Room, Horse Guards, June 12, 1827. Messrs. Coutts and Co. "General Sir Robert Bolton .................... 0 'The Officers of the 7th D ragoon Guards ...... 38 2 . 10 10 4 Non-commi s sioned Meet s of ditto ............ 22 9 4 Messrs. H err i es and Co. £7l 1 8 General Matthew Sharpe ........................ .£lO 10 0 H. At Messrs. Drummond's. Perelet, Esq. .......................... . ... 2 0 Capt. J. T. Perceval, Grenadier Guards ...... 5 5 0 Major-General Sir Colin, Halkett .......... 20 0 0 Subscription s from the L',and of Jer5ey........, 74 11 4 General Sir David Baird. 21 ................ Colo ne l Alexander CarnerGn ................. ........ .. ... 5 0 0 The D e p o t o f the 33d Regiment.. 5 0 ........ The Depot of th e 84th Re;irnent ............ .. 18 2 9 ........ 16 5 0 £162 11 1 Means. Hammersley and Co. 'The Royal Artillery (2d payment). •• l2O 0 0 Lieut. A. Gordlen, Royal I.ngineers 1 1 0 Lieut. Colonel H. T. Shawe 5 5 0 Lieut. W. Fitrgerald, H. P. '72d Regiment lO 0 'Captain James Johnston . ....... . 1 1 0 Major General T. M. Maiuwaring Lieut. F. Mainvraring, A. D. C 5 0 0 Commander E. P. Mainwaring, R.N. 5O 0 Captain C. 11. Mainwal ng, 47th Foot Lieut. B. Mainwaring, R.N. 2 10 0 Lieut. G. Mainwaring, 87th negt. £l6B 7 0 Aastaacr. £7l 1 S 111"src Coutt's ar I Co 10 10 0 Afesers. IlerrH a'ad Co Alga.Alg a.brur arr_ond' a 168 7 lialtr olereley and Co 311,4-riptions for week e n dir g S a t ur d ay , 12 14 rie 9 £4l2 ' 9 9 ' 44r Mt of f ormer S u b scr i pt i ons Total £15,747 10 11 4u.the absence of General F. MAITLAND, Hon. Sec. HENRY MORTON. ROn Saturday next, in 3 vols. post Svo., price 318. 6d. EUBEN APSLEY. By the Author of " Brarnbletye House," " The Tor Hill," Scc. !Printed for Henry Colburn, 8, New Burlington -street. DEBRETT'S PEERAGE. A .SUPPLEMENT to this WORK, com pleting it to the present period, is in preparation, and will shortly be published. 'Printing for Rivington, Longman and Co., Baldwin and "Co., and the other proprietors. On the 13th instant will be published in Svo. price Bs. 6d. HE in boards, E PISTOLARY CORRESPON DENCE of the Right Hon. EDMUND BURKE And D r. FREN CH LAURENCE. Published from the ORIGINAL MANUSCRIPTS. Printed for C. and J. Rivington, St. Paul's Church and Waterloo-place, Pall-Mall, London. Of 1,...0m may be had, p h 4 „, l4 eW Edition of the WORKS of the Right Honourable &._--'4",UND BURKE. In 14 vols. Svo. price 5/. 16s. in liric The 15th and 16th vols., with a GENERAL 4 , n pEx to the SIXTEEN VOLUMES, are in the Press, shortly be published. tNow re a dy, i n 3 vo l s. royal 12no. price 245. LIZABETH EVANSHAW : the Se printed of " T ru th." for runt and Clarke, York-street, Covent-garden. Ru i , Of whom may be had, Novel. 3 vols. price 24e. Ips This didactic novel ma y b e h ones tl y reco mmended to Por ° have the care of young persons, for the most • 11:11- 4 ...It object in education—the cultivation of the moral Yield L. for which end it is the most powerful, and will ted •7, fe w works in efficacy. 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The ti kv - L )4 Ire particularly cautioned against any Colors that i 7. Possd upon the m f or t h e Genuine Anti-Corrosion. /1,-44'" 14 . W. b a sing a Manufactur er of all other P a i n t s an d to m begs leav e ' i " to offer to th e i r notice, Paints applicable Chetql,..,,n purposes .-.- Stone , Invi s ibl e Green, Brown or %Z 4 te• , Also White Lead, Oil, T urpentine, Varnishes, fly and Lamp Oils of the finest p repared quality, at ps titi.,__ Redu ce d Prioes. Th e super i or excellence of the t - k.,.' 41 Tusc and Saxon Olive Greens i s kept up, and 41, , L i be had in quantities from '7lb. upwards. A li "'MN** to the =raise. No. 10,845. CHRISTOPHER INN and COMMERCIAL TAVERN, MARKET-PLACE, BATH. HENRY SMITH respectfully informs Commercial Gentlemen and the Public, that he has completely re-furnished the above Inn with the strictest attention to their comforts, and that he has stocked his cellars with the choicest Old Wines and Spirits of the finest flavour and in tle. highest condition. The utmost atten tion will uniformly be paid to the Sleeping and Stabling department. BEAUTIFUL MARINE RESIDENCE, rl l O be SOLD by PRIVATE CONTRACT, that beautiful MARINE VILLA, in the Cottage style, of the late Sir Thomas Pechell, Bart., situate at ALDWICK, one mile west of Bognor, commanding a. extensive view of the Sea, with an excellent walled Kitchen garden, Shrubberies, Coach-house, and Stabling for seven horses, Barn and convenient Outbuildings, and several Closes of Arable and Pasture Land, containing in the who] , about 24 customary Acres. The Household Furniture will be included in the purchase, and immediate possession given. The Farming Stock to be taken at a valuation. Further particulars may be had of Messrs. Ashmore, Few, and Hamilton, Solicitors, Henrietta -street, Cowin-garden. London ; Messrs. Price and Freeland, Solicitors, Chiche ter ; and cards of admiession to be obtained ou application at Binstead'e Library, Bognor. COURT OF ALDERMEN. MR. WILDE AND SHERIFF WINCHESTER. Yesterday the eyes of the city were all directed to the proceedings of this Court, in which it was understood some thing was to be brought forward condemnatory of the at tempt made on the last Court day to destroy the power of adjudication so long boasted of by the Members. Alderman CROWDER, after the routine business was con cluded, presented a petition from Mr. Wilde, stating that gentleman's claims to the Aldermanic gown, and repre senting that great inconvenience arose from the want of an Alderman in the ward of Vintry, it being impossibl e to make out rates without one ; and that Sheriff Win chester bad, without condescending to petition the Court, impeached their jurisdiction, and denied their power as a body. Mr. Wilde was then called to the bar of the Court. He address‘A the Lord Mayor and Aldermen at some length upon the subject, urd urged the Court to the consideration of the ma s of his petition. After Mr. Wilde withdrew, Alderman WArruNtAw presented a petition from a num btr of gkii.lemen who styled themselves the majority of the legal voters for the election of an alderman for Vintry ward. The Alderman then took a review of all the proceedings, and said, that whatever opinion a few individuals might enteraii respecting this matter, the vouole of the injury uad been inflicted, not upon Sheriff Winchester, but upon Mr. Wilde. He then strongly remarked upon the impro priety and presumption of the motion to rescind the p:o -ceedings of the Court, after a most solemn deliberation upon the merits of the respective claims of the candidates, after counsel had been heard, and evidence received ; and declared that the last Court had excited the ridicule ai.d indignation of the public in general, and of the city of London in . particular. (Hear, hear.) The folly of the proceeding exceeded all the renowned stories of the want of intellect ascribed, in less ceremonious days, to the members of that Court. (A laugh.) At the same time that they 7 - ere exposing themselves to the laughter of the public, they were surrendering a most important privilege—the right of adjudication in elections—a right which had ex isted upwards of 400 years without question. (Hear.) The Alderman concluded by stating, that he should move —" That the petition be laid on the table ; that the reso lution of the last Court for rescinding the resolutions of the former one be rescinded; and that the law officers be di rected to act forthwith." Upon this petition, which complained of the inconve nience arising to the inhabitants of the Vintry Ward, from the want of a representative, a long discussion took place. Alderman Tnomrsox had reason to complain of the re port which had appeared in the papers upon the subject ; and, in order to secure impartiality, he should move that the doors of the Court be thrown open instanter. Aldermen Wool), WAITHMAIT, Sir JAHTS SHAW, and others, declared that they should object to the proposal of throwing open the Court, if the thing were to be adopted generally, and upon a given notice. Alderman THOMPSON, perceiving that the feeling of the Court was against his proposition, consented to with draw it. Alderman WAITHMA IT then proposed that the vote of the last Court, for rescinding the proceedings of the pre ceding one, should be rescinded. Sir JAMES SHAW suggested a slight alteration in the wording of the motion, explanatory of the reasons for adopting it. He had been, he stated, absent from the last Court, or he should have protested against a resolution calculated to affect the honour and intellectual character of the members. He should have opposed it as unjust in the extreme, not only in principle, but inasmuch as it was calculated to take the Court by surprise. Alderman WOOD rose to protest against the proceedings of the last Court-day. Alderman Binctr was of opinion that the Court had acted erroneously in the first instance, and that the parties concerned in the dispute for the gown ought to have been left to contend for it upon their own responsibility. Alderman Axinrs declared that there was a gross ir regularity in the whole of the proceedings of the elections. He was of opinion most decidedly that Mr. Wilde ought to be sworn in. Here there was some allusion made which we did not hear, but it drew up Alderman LUCAS, who thought it necessary to explain the course he had pursued upon the last court-day. He certainly thought that the Court were in error in not swearing in Sheriff Winchester on the first day. He wished to avoid voting upon the occasion alluded to, but, entertaining the opinion he had just expressed, he thought he was bound to vote that Sheriff Winchester should be sworn in. . The motion to rescind the resolution of the last Court, which went to render null and void the proceedings of the preceding Court, wa- then put and carried by a grea t ma jority. No more than three hands—those of Aldermen Birch, Christopher Smith, and Thomr3n—being held up against it. Alderman Woon moved that the petition of the inha bitants of Vintry Ward, against the election of Mr. Wilde, should be taken into consideration on the next Court-day. Alderman WAITHMAN seconded the motion. This motion is understood to be preparatory to the swearing in of Mr. Wilde. Alderman Biacx begged to know whether it was meant to propose to swear in Mr. Wild e . H e wa s also anxious to know the opinions of the law-officers on the subject which the Court bad been discussing. Alderman WAITHMAN said, that it was most desirable that the merits of the ; petition should be entered into, in order that it might be ascertained as quickly as possible whether Mr. Wilde was elected legally or not. The RECORDER declared, that . Mr. Wilde having de- P :h ti er ti e onai manded to be sworn in, the . merits ; o an f t d he if appeared, ns his return aught to be investigated no grounds of rejection, the Cou rt h ad certainly the power, and were bound to swear him in. The Collator; SERGEANT concurred in this opinion. The Court then broke up. The majority of the Alder men considered the proceeding as a redemption of its cha racter, and were to be seen congratulating their fellow citizens upon the event. It is said that Mr. Wilde will certainly be sworn in en the next court-day.„ On Saturday last, Mr. W. B. Smeale, hair dresser and perfumer, at Macclesfield, had occasion to dis miss fru: , his employ a young man named Samuel Eddy. Eddy, the same evening, threw himself into an old-fashioned chair and attempted to dash his brains out. A short time afterwards he attempted to cut his throat with a pocket knife, ht , t was prevented from making a mortal incision ; disappointed a second time in the work of premeditated suicide, he now procured a table knife and stabbed himself in the side. The wound was slight. It was supposed now that he would desist from further attempts at self-destruc tion. In this the people of the house where he lodged were disappointed, for in the coarse of Sunday night, he attempted' to destroy himself by hanging, and was ac t u ally found suspended by a cord to a beam in his bed-room. He was cut down, still alive, and soon after absconded, and has not been heard of since.—Macclesfield Herald. WEDNESDAY EVENING, JUNE 13, 1827. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, JLlqr 12. It having been generally known that a discussion on the Corn Bill was to take place this evening, a great number of persons were in attendance at an early hour, in order to procure admission. The LORD CHIEF BARON, as Deputy Speaker, took his seat on the Woolsack at a quarter past four o'clock. Mr. ROBERTSON, from the office of the Commis- .loners of Woods and Forests, presented the fourth an neal report of the Commissioners of the Holyrood-Ruad. Mr. CLERK presented a copy of the resolutions of the East India Company with respect to pensions, salaries, and gratuities. _ _ _ Sir ALEXANDER GRANT, and others from tl►e Com mons, brought up the Penitentiary Regulation Bill, the Petty Sessions' (Ireland) Bill, and several private Bills. The LORD CHANCELLOR entered the House at half-past five o'clock. Earl GROSVENOR said he would have proposed to put an end to the office of Lord Justice-General of Scot land, but that he had been informed by a Noble Lord that there were difficulties in the way of the abolition ; he would, however, early in the next Session, MOV3 for a commission to enquire into the nature of these difficulties, with the view of removing them. Lord MELVILLE said, that it was the intention of his Majesty's Government to propose some regulations respect ing the Courts of Scotland, which would have the effect of abolishing the salary of the office in question ; he therefore suggested to the Noble Lord the expediency of leaving the matter in the hands of Government. Lord GODERICH corroborated the statement of the Noble Lord, and said that it was the intention of the Go vernment, to transfer the duties of the Lord Justice-Gene ral to ether offices, thus rendering that office unnecessary. It should at the same time be remembered, that although it became desirable to abolish a patent office ultimately, that the holder of it had what might amount almost to a vested right. The Earl of ELDON said, that as the other great questions wei e to stand over ,to the next Session, this one might also be deferred.—(A laugh.) The Archbishop of YORK presentee a petition from York, against Burning Hindoo Widows. Lord DUDLEY presented the Returns which had been ir"ved for respecting the Expenditure of the Foreip Office Department. CORN BILL. On the motion that the report of the Corn Bill be brought up, Lord COLCHESTER rose and said—My Lords, with respect to the Bill itself, I object to its policy, and also to its leading provision. I object to its policy in so far that it tends to render this country's political situation more de pendant on that of foreign couutries—more dependant on other countries for the means of subsistence, means that may be cut off at any time and by any unexpected crisis.— I object to the policy of the Bill in so far that it lowers the agricultural interests, and in that it reduces the manu facturing interests of the country. It seems to bear upon two classes of impoverished population, the starving la bourer as well as the starving manufacturer. (Hear, hear, hear.) I think it has its effect also on Ireland. —lt seems to me that the present tendency of the Bill is to affect the grovetteettorn there, and in en doing it takes away the money which would otherwise go to that country, and I would rather see that country subsist more on British corn than on that which comes from foreign countries. If that were so, and that country thereby more supported from its own produce of corn than it at present is, the poorer class would be more active and industrious than they have hitherto been. With respect to the provisions of the Bill, if you mean that the prices men tioned there should be the price of the Corn, make it so. Do what you profess to do : you tell the agri culturists you will protect them, prohibit therefore the importation of all foreign corn, but that which will come in at a lower price than they are entitled to. You say, you give them what you may call as good, namely, prohibitory duties ; now, I will affirm, that no man will be able to state the price or amount of quantity that will be imported, when once the market is laid open to all the world.—(Hear, hear. )—My Lords, I think, in the Amend ments, a most valuable principle has been suggested ; and, if you mean to give the people of England that which they ought to have, let those Amendments be approved of. As to the reciprocity, you say you give the agriculturists protection by letting those who im port corn have our manufactures : that is, you are barter ing the interest of our Agriculturists—(Hear, hear.)— which is a thing that ought never to be done. As to the present proceedings with this Bill before us, and sitting here to amend it, I say to do our duty honestly, we ought to amend it in such a manner as to make the measure the best to be adopted (Hear, hear, hear. )—else why do we sit here ? I am well aware, my Lords, it is said that there are technical difficulties elsewhere, and that though it may be easy here, Yet those difficulties are such as may not be got over. Now, we had better come to a plain understanding on that. Every one who is conversant with the history of Parliament, and has read the Parliamentary Journals, may find that the House of Commons claims rights which the Members of it have uniformly insisted upon for at least one hundred and fifty years. One of their claims is against this House passing any Bills imposing duties. The House of Lords had also claims distinct from those of the House of Commons. Now the Commons have recorded that they claim the sole and undoubted right of beginning all grants of money, of levying all duties, and of li miting, directing, and appointing all the ends, purposes, pro hibitions, and qualifications of duties so imposed by the Lords; thus we stand then with respect to the House of Commons, and we think it our duty to suggest certain Amendments, but then we are told that they will be use less. My Lords, I am not quite sure of that.—(Loud cries of Hear, hear, hear.) Let us see how the case stands. We are told that Corn will not pay duty when imported, till it reaches a certain point ; but that is not all, for there is another very important thing which respects the average prices. The Commons have said the average prices must be judged of every week; no, say the Lords, we shall have it every six weeks— we will have a safer way of detecting fraud by having the average taken every six weeks than every week, and we have every reason to believe that that amendment will be adopted, which is an amendment extremely important. We did our duty there, and we should go on to do our duty now. If we do so, and the House of Commons properly understand what is a good legislation, they will reconsider the amendments; they have frequently reconsidered matters, and I hope they will continue to do so. (Hear, hea hear !) If the House of Commons upon that consideration think it beet to adopt those amendments, I am sure they will do so ; if they see that they will be attended with the best practical effect, I am fully persuaded they will act most wisely to adopt them. My Lords, I hope sincerely they will adopt the course now proposed, and thereby give the country a law that will be most useful to it.—(Hear, hear.)—MY Lords, these are the reasons for which I shall give several votes, and if the amendments are successively proposed, I shall vote for them. The Report was then brought up, and received. It was then read, clause by clause, and several verbal altera tions were agreed to. On the question that the amendment be agreed to which provided that no foreign corn be admitted into the home market, for home consumption, whilst the average price was less than 665. Lord GODERICH ro , e—He felt great difficulty in pro posing the reconsideration of that amendment, which had been introduced into the Committee. He was sure that his Noble Friend (Wellington), who proposed that amendment, and their Lordships generally, would do him the iustice to think that he was not induced to call on them from any other motive whatever than the most sincere con viction that the amendment was not calculated to effect what his Noble Friend anticipated from its adoption ; but that it had a tendency to aggravate the evils against which he intended to provide. He assured their Lordships that this was his only motive for calling on them to recon sider this amendment, and not to allow it to stand part of the Bill. But before he said any thing as to the practical effects of the clause, he wished to make a few preliminary observations, with a view of setting his Right lion. Friend the President of the Board of Trade and himself right with the House as to. misconception into which his Noble Friend had fallen. My Noble Friend had stated, in proposing his clause, that he did so, with the concurrence of my Right Hon. Friend ; and, undoubtedly, their Lordships must have been startled when they saw him objecting to a clause sanctioned by his Right Hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade. He had now on the part of his Right Hon. Friend, distinctly to assure their Lordships, that he never intended to convey any acquiescence in that clause. —ln the first place, he had never seen it—(hear, hear, hear),—the statement of his Noble Friend was founded on an impression derived from a sentence in a letter written by his Right Hon. Friend to the Noble Duke. In that letter, his Right Honourable Friend is supposed to sanction the principle of the Amend went, but when the Noble Lords came to the consideration of that letter he had no doubt of being able to convince them that his Right Hon. Friend never aeant to convey any ap probation whatever of it. Of this fact he could satisfy their Lordships, as well as from a conversation which had since taken place between him and a Right lion. Friend, as from what had passed between his Right Honourable Friend and the Noble Duke. The fact was that his Noble Friend had written to the President of the Board of Trade to ask his concurrence in a clause, which however had not since been proposed. The letter of his Light Hon. Friend began by adverting to the difficulties of introducing amendments. He (Lord Goderich) merely mentioned this as the opinion of the individual, without calling on their Lordships to be influenced in the slightest degree by it. It was competent to their Lordships to in troduce any amendment they pleased into Bills sent up from the Commons, and it was equally competent to the other House to reject those Amendments. (Hear, hear.) if an amendment was made in this House, it did not follow that the House of Commons should acquiesce in it. Be fore they did so, they must agree to the spirit and effect of the amendment; and for his part he (Lord Goderich) did not know upon what grounds, if competent, he could recommend the other House to assent to the amendment. --(Hear, hear.)—As to the letter of his Right Hon. Friend, the President of the Board of Trade, it set out by stating that he would be willing to agree to any amend ments in the Upper House, which would satisfy those Noble Lords who opposed the Bill, so that those amend ments wool ml not involve the existence of the measure on its return to the lower House. His Right Honourable Friend bad no objection to clearing away the Corn in bond before the Bill came into operation, but he added that he feared even this amendment would prove fatal to the Bill in the other House. He (Lord Goderich) always conceived this was the principle of his Right Honourable Friend's amendment, and no other prin ciple. He declared, on his honour, that he never contem plated a permanent restriction on bonded grain. He thought he had now defended his Right Hon. Friend from the charge of being willing at one time to agree to an amendment, which he afterwards expressed unwil lingness to represent to them. He hoped he had also cleared himself from the imputation that from caprice, or any other motive but an adherence to the principles of the Bill he had opposed an amendment. which must be fatal to it. The grounds on which he called on their Lordships to decide that his Noble Friend's Amendment would not be for the good of those it was intended to serve, and that it should be recon sidered, were as follows :—ln the first instance, the change produced by the amendment, was contrary to the principle on which the Bill was founded, but he did not op pose it solely on this ground, it might be an exception to the principle, and still good in itself, but he contended it was intrinsically bad. His Noble Friend said, that when be had a seat in his Majesty's Councils he had agreed to the principle of the Bill, but was not answerable for its details, never, in fact, having seen it till it came into their Lordships' House. Nov, for his part, he did not know what could have prevented him from seeing it, as it was printed, and accessible to every body. Before it was printed, it was before the Members of his Majesty's Go vernment, when the clause respecting the reciprocity initial, and other clauses, were discussed. Those of the Government who had the charge of the Bill in the other House, did not presume to proceed without communicat ing with their colleagues. Now he wished on this oc casion, to call the attention of the House to the resolu tions on which the Bill was founded, and when he read the first resolution, be thought their Lordships would agree with him, considering that this clause was a direct de parture from the principle there laid down and recog nised by his Noble Friend. The first Resolution was as follows : _ _ _ Resolved—That any corn, meal, or flour, imported into this country, shall at all times be admissible for home use, . . on payment of the duties. Now the clause proposed by his Noble Friend, declared that corn placed in a certain predicament should not be admissible for home use till the price rose to a certain amount. By this clause, the object of his Noble Friend seemed to be, to re-establish the prohibitory system. But then it would be contended by his Noble Friend, that the clause was not opposed to the principle of the Bill. This, however, he (Lord G.) denied, for be considered it was a manifest deviation from it. The amendment was brought forward with the view of removing practical objections of two sorts; first, as to the mode of taking the averages, in which it was intended to prevent feiuds ; and secondly. with the view of preventing the ni:zei.levous effects of the market being glutted with corn at any one time. Now as to the first of these evils, he did not see hew any trans actions respecting corn in bond could have any effect on the averages. Corn so placed never came into the ave rages, and if it did come, its only effect would be to lower the price in the market, and increase the duty. Thus giving pro tanto an increased protection to the home grower. Upon that ground, therefore, he could not under stand how any encouragement given to bonding corn in this country could be held to afford greater facilities to the introduction of foreign corn. By the Bid, all the influence over the averages by the holders of bonded corn was taken away ; but it remained now to be seen, whether by this amendment that influence was not given to them. He was decidedly of opinion that its effect would be to give those holders an interest to strain every nerve in altering the averages, in order to release their own corn out of bond. Bonded corn could not, if this amendment passed, be taken out of bond, until the price of corn was 665. How then would this work ? P tween the passing of the Bill and this day twelvemonth, there may be accumulated a large quantity of corn in bond—say' 1,000,000 of quarters. This would be locked up, of course, till the price rose to 665. Did tke House think that the owners of this corn would be idle? Would they not, in their own defence, labour, even by sacrificing a portion of capital, to raise the general price of the market, and by that means open the - doors to a flood of foreign corn, the . supply of which would by that means be proportioned, not to the wants of the people, but because of the temporary facility of intro- PRICE 71). ducing it, and thus all the evils ke produced, which the Noble Duke declared it was his object to avoid.--(Hear.) It was in proof that the prices of corn in this count:-) might be . at any time influenced at the sacrifice of some capital.., Did their Lordships think these large capitalists would hesitateto,elmd some thousands in buying up Eng lish corn, in'order i tp raise the general price, and thus save the remainder, ratter than expose themselves to certain loss upon "the whole speculation ? Every c onsideration that could influence the mind of man must impel persons so situated to strive unceasingly to raise the,mae:_,, in order to - get their own property out of bond. Another light in which this question ought to be viewed was one of great importance. He had no doubt.—and he spoke it conside rately--4at this armndment would be most likely to put an end to warehousing in the country altogether.—(A loud cheer from the Opposition, with laughter.)—He un derstood these cheers. It was well for those Noble Lords who thought that there ought to be no warehousing, to support this amendment; but he called r.pon those others who did not disapprove of that system to repudiate the amendment. Perhaps he was presumptuous in predicating thus confidently of the amendment, but it was his firm be lief that it would extinguish wareheusing altogether it this country. He must understand by his Noble ,Friend persisting in this amendment, that he was now, whatever he might have formerly been, an advocate for the extinction of the warehousing system. The Duke of WELLINGTON wished not to be misun derstood. He was not an enemy to the warehousing sys tem.—(Hear.) Lord GODERICH had expected as much from his Noble Friend, for if he had voted otherwise, he must have flown in the teeth of a resolution which he (the Duke of Wellington) had before sanctioned.----(Hear.)----The prac tical question arising out of this amendment would be, whe ther warehousing of corn was or was not in future to be countenanced in this country? His position was, that whether at a profit or loss, the corn which was now in bond would find its way into the market, notwithstanding the operation of this amendment. In order to prove this, he should assume that a man might have warehoused 500,000 quarters of grain in this country upon the specu lation of a rise, without running the hazard of absolute ruin; corn rises to 615., 625., and 635., and as it ap proaches 665. a stimulus is given to the holders of foreign corn on the other side of the water, who try to keep the price under 665., in order to shut out the competition of the bonded.corn, which cannot come into market until the price touches that mark. These holders then find themselves exposed to the disadvantageous rivalship with the importer from Antwerp and Hamburgb, and as there is no chance left him of getting a sale for his corn, he has no alternative but that of taking his corn to Antwerp, and bringing it back again here as foreign corn just imported. Such course must be a losing one to him, and therefore the effect will be to put an end to warehousing altogether ; for who would put their corn into bond, and he obliged, after all, to take it t( Antwerp, and wring it back here again ?—(Hear.) He nut it then to the House whether they were prepared to adopt a measure fraught with such important consequences as that of extinguishing altogether the warehousing► system in this country ? He had already expressed his own hum ble opinion that such a measure would be most mischiev ous ; and he could nuote to their Lordships the opinions o' others, more entitled to their consideration, to the same effect. He had the authority of the Noble Duke himsel, (Wellington), by his sanction of the original resolution, that such a system ought not to be given up.—(Hear, hear, hear.) Lord Liverpool also, whose information upon these subjects claimed the greatest right, in a report made to the King in Council in 1821, strongly urged thr expediency of continuing the warehousing system. Their Lordships were aware that this measure was not new—it had been adopted in 1773. It was not, therefore, an inno vation of their's, but had been adopted by them upon the recommendation of men of the greatest experience, as a measure calculated to serve the best interests of the country, and in many cases the only means of saving the country from the horrors of starvation. He was quite at a loss to account for the hostility shown by some Noble Lords in that House to the warehousing system, who had declared that they did not care if they never heard of it again during their lives.—(A laugh.)—lt was a measure which must expose the country to great misery. In dis cussing this subject, he had not said a word to inflame the passions of the class, which, after all, were objects of primary importance, the body of the consumers in this country. He yielded to no man in attachment to the interests of the agricultural classes, but Noble Lords ought never forget that the duty of supplying the people with food was a nice, difficult, and most anxious conside ration; and that the first duty of Parliament was to guard against the possibility of any failure of supply in the event of bad seasons at home. He therefore entreated the House to reconsider this matter. If they supposed that this measure would not have the effect of extinguishing warehousing, they were much mistaken. He bad used this argument on a former night, but had been met with scorn and sarcasm by a Noble Lord. The posi tion which he took up was, that if corn was not ware housed in this country, it world be at the other side of the. water. He was not military man enough to spy what number of ships would be employed in this service, or whether there would not be wanted as many as would transport eighty thousand men, with all their baggage and military stores. All that he meant to say was, that as much corn would be imported here as the warehouses at the other side could possibly crowd in, and that, too, not with reference to the supply supposed to be required, but in a spirit of taking advantage of the facility of importa tion which the moment afforded. Suppose the duty should be fixed in a Friday's Gazette, at 205., there were many persons here watching the market who would sell out at that price, though at a lou ; but others who were not pressed for money might not do so. But as soon as the corn at the other side of the water was forced here, all parties, at all hazards, would bring their corn out, with out reference to the comparison of demand and supply, but in order not to forfeit the opportunity by which all would be lost. He did not venture to say how much would or would ne , ue brought out in one week, but he asserted confidently, that if the corn from the other side was forced, the holders would pour in here all that they possibly could. And another and most important consider ation connected with this view of the subject was, that the corn so brought would not be carried in British ships.— The House might assume that the whole of that trade would be carried on by Dutch or Baltic ships ; British vessels would not be sought after; there would not be time to send for them. These men understood their own interests too well to expose themselves to the danger of failure by waiting for foreign ships ; as every thing de pended upon expedition, they would of course be prepared with their vessels at a moment's warning. There would be no difficulty--no mystery in the case ; they might load their ships with the greatest ease ; and the consideration that not a quarter of this corn would be brought here in British bottoms, was of itself sufficient to render that policy questionable. He was not aware that he had any more observations to make on this subject. He had cer tainly treated it with earnestness, because he felt strongly upon it. It bad been said that he wished to give it a party complexion. This he was not aware of. He had endea voured to diffuse as much temper into the discussion as he could, and in his own person he believed he could take credit for having done so. He should perhaps have been justified in assuming another tone, but he had made it his practice, when he had c onscientiously determined to sup port any measure, to state his opinions upon it in the plainest and most s traight-forward way. He never would resort to any other.—(Hear.) —He assured their Lordships that this was a subject to which, more than any other, he had given his attention. For many years it had been his duty to pay the closest attention to the subject now under c onsideration, and though he did not call upon their Lord ships to reject this amendment upon that ground, yet it gave him an interest, naturally, in the fate of this measure. If, then, he was convinced that this amendment, instead 01 being productive of those mischievous consequences which he had apprehended from it, was calculated to produce the good results anticipated by the Noble Duke, be should give it his support, uninfluenced by any fear on his be half of being crushed by the storm which had beet raised against him.—(Hear.) —But as he could not bring Ilia mind to that conclusion, he felt it his duty to call upon their Lordships to reconsider this amendment.-- (Hear s hear.) The Duke of WELLINGTON rose to address this House, but in so inaudible a tone of voice that no two con secutive sentences of his could be heard below the bar. We understood him to say, that, being the person who had proposed the clause under consideration, and because of the allusions made to him by ,the Noble Lord who hat' just at down, he felt it neeesatuy to claim their Lord- ships' attention foe a short tinie. ha, us, so, istissymr, .he had no complaint to make if the manner in which, these allusions had boo maden Borers, it his intention . to enter into any.verbal criticism, or tonontrovert the inter pretation which the Noble Lord had put upon the letter of his Right Honourable Friend ; neither would he now defend the misconception under which he had ',re posed the elausv. „ Adopting as he did, and being respon sible, as he untiosolitaci:Ss partly was, for the Resolution upon which this Bill s ss lenSeded , he was bound to say, that he received without distrust Ste: explanation given by the Noble Lortiest tine intention of his ;24:ht Hon. Friend. (Mr. Huskisson) es expressed in his letter's But , though he approved of the principle of the measure, sstA , there ap peared to him to be something objectionable in the 1 p de ire which that principle was to be brought into operation; u" it was in order to supply that defect that he had propned the clause in question. Allusion had been made by the Noble Lord to the first and last paragraphs in the letter of hie . Right Hon. Friend, which he (the Duke of W.) had not read to the House. This subject had been already referred. to in a delicate mariner by a Noble Friend of his (Lord Re desdale) and it was not probable aat he would hare read to their Lordships the letter of alislernber of the other House upon a question affecting the pr i v ile ge s of this, more par ticularly as he t l etglit at the time that he was making a. proposition to which his Right Hon. Friend (Mr. F. - kisson) had assented. That hie Right Hon. Friend had assented to Some tencession tended further to fortify him in the impression that the present supporters of this measure entertained apprehensions for its success in the House. His' Noble Friend (Lord (loderich) had sled that the _explanation rnly applied to boitded corn ; but lie invited his Noble Friend to read the letter again- He (the Duke of. Welliogtou) vas ready to admit that he was in error with respect to the teeming Of hie .Rlght Hon. Friend's letter ; but he assured their Lordships, in bringing forward the amendment for their ceeeideratintes he sincerely thought he was expressing the sentiments ctir that Rig} , Hon. Gentleman. His Noble Friend had mis taken his object in proposing this clause. He had pro posed it, because he wished to put_ a cheek upon the wen.- housing system, and thsough that system to prevent frauds which were practised upon the averages. if their Lord ships referred to the report of the evidence taken before the Committee last year, they would find all the witnesses agreeing in opinion, that so far as the present system of warehousing was permitted, it was impossible to prevent the frauds upon the averages.—(Hear.)—The manner in which these frauds were practised, was clearly spoken to by the witnesses.. A speculator commits a fraud upon the averages by buying up British corn, and having done so, and having by that fraud raienti the averages to a price to answer his speculation, he then puts his corn into bond, in order to realise the profit which he has gained. Upon that principle, he (the Duke of W.) was opposed to the warehousing system. The checking diet system was the only way of putting a stop to the frauds upon the ave rages. But he had never intended that the clause ehoold have the effect of extinguishing warehousing altogether, and still less did he intend that it should amount to a p:G hibition.—(Hear.)—ile did not feel himself called upon t? make any apology for having proposed the clause, which, as it was now shown to have been inconsistent with the po licy of the Bill, itself, he did not feel warranted in pressing. But though he was stopped from proposing this clause, :le saw no reason why Govei rinent should not adopt the suggestion, and make it a part of the Bill in the other House..—(Hear.) ---If the Noble Lord would give any pledge to that effect, he (the Duke of W,) would withdraw this ansendnisat altogether. He was quite convinced that something ought to be done to check the vices of the wares housing system.--(Hear.)—His Noble Friend had said. that ties system had its origin in 1773—he (the Dube of W.) had no objection to restore it to what it was in 1791. His Noble Friend alluded to the strong recommendation of the measun that by the Earl of Liverpool, but let ' Noble Lords see spun what different bases that and the present proposition stood. In l 791 core was not allowed to be warehoused here but upon payment of a duty of up to a certain prim, hs. 6d. to another price, and 6s. 6d. to a third price. Corn was then allowed to ne taken eliS of the warehouse, not only upon payment of the 24s , the middle or low duty, but also upon payment of 2s. 6d. be fore it could be takes out of the warehouse.—( Hear, hear.) This continued to be the law from 1791 to 1814, when the duty wits further raised. By allowing the duty to be collected upon corn in the usual way, the glut could be prevented. Having n.w gone through the Bill, he had no intention of pressing this amendment, but he thought some measure of the same nature ought to be proposed by the Government, and if some pledge was given of a return to the s rinciple of the Bill of 1.791, he was willing to withdraw his amendment.—(Hear, hear.) Lord HOLLAND—I have no hesitation in saying, tut Lords, that the clause which has been added to this Bill in the Committee, is so utterly subversive of the princi ple of the measure, that it seems almost impossibie to ate count for its having been so added, unless it were the inten tion of the Committee to defeat the ()eject of the Bill. Had this Amendment, if amendment it 'an 1, , called, proceeded :som any other quarter, I should certainly have said that the mere question of this proviso was a question on the merits of the Bill; and that it was only an indirect, perhaps not an unusual Parliamentary method of getting rid of the Bill. The Noble Duke has assured your Lordships, and am bound to believe him, that he bad no such intention ; he has declared that he wishes to throw no obstacle in the way of this measure; but, on the contrary, that he con siders himself responsible for the Resolution on which the Bill is founded, though not for the bill itself. I confess, my Lords, that in legislation I am somewhat of a mate rialist,, and I do not understand that platonic affection which separates so entirely the principle of the Bill front every thing that is necessary to carry it into effect. If the Noble Duke feels so thorough an approbation of the measure it self, I confess I caui.ot understand that excessive affection for the principle and soul, which at the same time totally disregards the body of the Bill. I remember some versos which happened lately to fall in my way, and whicti are riot altogether inapplicable to the Noble Duke's platonic propensities in legislation. In a poetical dialogue between the soul and the body, the soul addresses the body very much in the same way as this Bill may be supposed to ad dress the principle as understood by the Noble Duke— " These distinctions so nice can be scarce understood— They who wish to divide us can mean us no good," I cannot help thinking that they who wish to draw such nice distinctions between the principle of the Bill and the Bill itself mean no good to the measure. They take to themselves the merit of having originally concurred in the measure—they boast of having dandled the infant and rocked its cradle ; but by a mistaken kindness they cram it, when it begins to tough, with this morsel of a provisa, which is calculated to bring it to an untimely grave.—(A laugh. )—I think the Noble Duke, considering his paternal solicitude for the measure under your Lordships' consider ation—considering his sincere desire not to throw any ob stacle in the way, of its success, must have been a little startled at witnessing the satisfaction with which his Amendment was hailed by the Noble and Learned Lord (Redesdale), who has so consistently, manfully, ..nd con stitutionally opposed the whole principle of the Bill; who sees in this Bill that most horrible, dreadful bugbear, called Free Trade, with all its direful revolutionary censequencts —who sees in it the expulsion of Bishops from this House —who dreads that if this Bill should pass, one of its ine vitable results will be, not only that the Bishops should .be expelled from this House, but that this House itself will be voted useless and v-xatious.—(A laugh.)—The Noble Duke, I say, must have been surprised to find his Amend ment embraced as a most advantageous proposition by so determined an enemy of the whole principle of the Bill as the Noble and Learned Lord. The Not's Duke, too, con sidering his great paternal solicitude for the measui , must have been surprised to find his Amendment hailed las such a prodigious advantage by my Noble Friend in the green ribbon (Lord Lauderdale),' whose great know ledge of the subject, and whose extensive researches have always been directed to the same point.--namely, hostility to the measure--and who thinks that this Bill is likely to lead to the loss of our independence, and to lay us at the feet of the foreigner. When the Noble Duke succeeded in making this great alteration in the Bill—an alteration , hear.)—When u r p .)_ a shout when o t f he victory, Nnb le which he professes to think essential to the successful ap plication of its principle—he must have been surprised to hear i th n e b t e t s i i s ger ll s ou o si f Lhe ( B H i e l a l r se which, if not actually unprecedented, is certainly most un usual Duke saw the way in which his Amendment was received by the enemies of the Bill—when it became certain that it was calculated to defeat the whele object of the measure —it was not, perhaps, too much to expect that the Noble Duke would have seen his mistake, and that he would have withdrawn his proviso, instead of persevering, as he now does, in support of it. The Noble Duke's clause is directly contrary to the Resolution on which the Bill is founded. The Duke of WELLINGTON suggested (we believe) that no Resolution had been passed in that House. Lord HOLLAND resumed—No Resolution, in this House! Well, it was passed in the other Holum of Path*. ment. The Noble Duke has himself deduce', that he con sidered himself resecesible for that Reeolut' s on, and that he t he words of th e R e solution with the A men d ment o f t h e still adheres to it. I have a right, therefore, to compare oNfocbolrenD, grain,uke Dil7bAisli:7luflotithre:l--ners.„l":.;4boynla?;-iTmhapotriz into home use. What san's the A nnen d me nt 1 • »--That th e corn the United Kingdom, shall be t t a ll tim es a dmi s sible Fir 8 dity was published, with a Fac Simile Letter of his , late Majesty George 111., ET TERS of the Right H on . WILLIAM vf I PITT, to his Late MAJES'iY on the C l and, with hi s Majesty's Answers ;, now publish ..firs ' Bl fl the Original MSS. Printed for John Murray, Albemarle-street.