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.powev to resist so partial and tyrannical a measure. 'He con ' ieesed that, if he were a Catholic, it would be a mere matter otcalculation with him whether he should assert his rights as a man, and a patriot, or run th e r i s k o f b e ing hanged as a rebel. • war a traitor.—(llear ! and l aw titer . t h hter.)—Our ancestors had w atibed for an opport u ni t y to strike ebl ow w hich gave them freedom; and he repeated that if he were a Catholic, he should now follow their example. —( Hear l) —By denying not °- to the e Cath h'eaof Ireland their just claims, which were refused from any fear of their religious sentiments, but from f t r ru om sr a an f m e d ;r em le ( t they should obtain a portion of those e himent which were at present monopolizeesdo by the d . ominpt faction in that country, the people of England were incuning the risk of losing that fine island altogether. They had been told by the Attorney-General for Ireland, he dre th: d t ed fu t r h th e e e r fi d ee on ts ces oi " guns were not made to the Catholics, foreign aggression upon that co untry ; why, then, should they hesitate to make the C a tholics their friends, and so place Ireland oot of the reach of danger?—(Hear !)--Irishmen were treated as men in every country but Ireland; but there, he was sorry . say i t , they were treated as brutes.-(Hear!) —Why should Varliaraent continue such a system, when by getting rid of it, - t would not only attach a gallant nation to its side, but would who rid England of an annual expence of 4,000,000/., which .was now' incurred to keep it in subjection ?—( Hear !)--The Honourable Member then proceeded to point out the differ enee between the Orange and the Catholic Associations, and to contend that if the Government had wished to act fairly between them, it would have dismissed from its service all its -enzployes who were Members of Orange lodges. The Orange lodges were decidedly illegal ; whereas the Catholic Association was proved to be legal by . the necessity of hav ing this bill to put it down. Considering the insulting man ner in7which the former petitions of the Catholics had been di sm i sse d, Jie thought that they had adopted a quiet and constitutional mode of obtaining a redress of grievances in form ing such an association.—(Hear !)—So far from objecting to it, he considered it a laudable aesociatipn, in perfect consistence with the principles and spirit of the ConstitutiOnaleoud cries of " Hear !" from the Ministerial heoches.)-allelieving, there fore, that this association had been mostly, vilified, and seeing that the Bill, which was intended to put it down, was shamefully partial in its operation, lie intended to submit a motion to the' house, " that it be an instructioa to the Committee to re.. ceive a clause, providing that any person now holding, or who might hereafter hold, office nnder the Crown in Ire land, should take an oath that he does not now belong n and that he will not hereafterhelong, to any association declared to be illegal by this Act. He could not see upon what grounds such a motion could be resisted, and he was sure that there was one very powerful reason by which it was recommended. That reason was, that nothingcould better allay the irritation such a measure would occasion than the knowledge that it put down other associations which had hitherto triumphed over the law and eluded all its regulations. The Hon. Member then con eluded by handing his motion to the Speaker. The SPEAKER told the lion. Member that.his motion in its present state was unnecessary. Without any instruction the Committee could take into their consideration such a clause as the lion. Member had mentioned. Mr. HUME stated, that his object was to place upon the jour nals his resolution, and that if his present mode of doing it was objectionable in. point of form, he would do it in any mode that the Speaker would suggest to him. A discussion of sonic length took place between the Honour able Member and the SPEAKER as to the mode of putting the question, which ended in an alteration of the words of the mo tion without altering their substantive effect. Mr. GOCI.BURN resisted the motion, not only because it was not calculated to effect the object of the Hon. Member for Aberdeen, but also because it was extremely objectionable upon principle. The object of it was to call upon every officer to take an oath, not merely that he was not guilty of a particular offence, but also that he would not, at any future time, be guilty of it. If this were a fit principle to proceed upon, why did the Hon. Member call for such a declaration with regard to a minor offence, punishable only by tine and im prisonment, and neglect it with regard to greater offences, for which severer punishments were inflicted ? Was it just, he would ask, to call upon an individual to take an oath, when, by refusing to take it, he gave indirect evidence that he was a member of a society denounced as illegal by an Act of Parlia ment ? He knew of no case in which such a test had ever been required from public officers, and he did not see any reason wiry it should be demanded from them in the present case. —(itter. hear-!)—The object of the Hon. Member's motion would not be answered even by the success of such a clause as he had proposed. If any Orangeman was at present in the employment of the Irish Government, it was because the con stitution of those lodges had been so completely altered as not to transgress the existing laws. should any servant of the Government be discovered to be a member of an illegal Orange ledge, he would not only be dismissed from his situation, but would also be immediately handed over to the law to suffer the puni..hmeitt which it affixed to the offence he had committed. f In. these reasons the Right lion. Gentleman said that he should oppose the motion. Mr. G. LA MB observed, that no man was bound to take effeee against his wilL; and argued, that as every man had to take some test oaths before he entered upon office, he saw no reason why the test recommended zy his Hon. Friend the ember for Aberdeen should not be added to those which were already in existence. He defended the Catholic Association f: en the attacks which had been made upon it, and said that he could not find any thing in the language used by its mem beet half so violent as the language which had been used re gardiug it by several Members of that House. He concluded by saying, that if they wished to give a triumph to neither of the two parties into which Ireland was divided, and' to hold the balance impartially between them, they would not send this ohnonioue Bill to Ireland, without adding to it the clause re ' commeetled by his lion. Friend. Mr. C. H. HUTCHINSON said, he rose to repeat the same sentiment, and, if possible, the same language he had used in that House on a former occasion. lie would not be, nor would the Hon. Members around him be, shamed out of their feel ings of dislike towards this abominable measure—a measure was actually calculated (the lion. Gentlemen might smile or f, -, >wn as they pleased)—actually calculated to rouse the people of Ireland, if not to acts of outrage, to active exertions to put down such men as those who had advised the King to make such a aratement as that contained in the Speech from the Throne— those Royal Advisers who had proposed a measure calculated to raise the whole population of Ireland in rebellion against it. He did not know' how they dared to propose it, and to propose it without any grounds—for the false statements contained in the speeches of the Members on the other side of the House had been aely replied to and confuted. They did not know the men with whom they had to contend; and the Rt. Hon. Gent. opposite, now lie lie had found out this secret, was determined to remain silent lest lie should be again put to shame by the Hon. Member (Mr. Brougham) who sat beneath him (Mr. IL) The arguments of those Gentlemen would be again refuted if they again ventured to state their arguments in support of this abominable measure. They were anxious, however, to hurry the matter into a Com mittee, depending on a majority of the House. He (Mr. H.) did' not wish to speak of majorities of that House In terms of disrespect; hut he knew what they had hitherto done in Eng land and in Ireland. They had hurried on England almost to its ruin, by creating a taxation from which England could ne.ver be relieved; atria in Ireland they had driven the Irish to rebellion. He would not be brow-beaten or shamed from his duty, but he would speak as an Irishman, and as one who was experienced in the things of which he spoke. He had seen his country driven to rebellion by oppression ; and lie would say, even if they were the last words he should ever utter, that if ever there were a justifiable rebellion, the rebellion of 1793 was so. He had before stated his convic tion that every person who suffered in that rebellion was a - martyr, and filet the Government who drove the people of Ire land to that rebellion, ought to have suffered as traitors for so doing. When that rebellion broke out, he (Mr. Hutchinson) joined heartily in putting it down; but at the same time he re probated the cruel spirit of the Government, that had made one hundred rebels when there would have been only one. When the French landed in Ireland, for the purpose of introducing their system into that country, he was equally ready to oppose them. Ile believed the Right lion. Gent. (Mr. Gout burn) was not only risking the peace of Ireland, but was doing all he could to cause a rebellion in Ireland. Yet Ireland, we were told, was still gcng min prosperity, for so the country was informed by th e speech of hi s !Vlajesty, while his Majesty's Ministers could come forward and 'oppose the feelings of the whole population of Ire land, in orde r to gratify a faction. To gratify them, they would pet down this Association and insult a whole people. Ile would beg of the Gentlemen opposite to pause before they proceeded to far. From many accounts he lead received from Ireland, he knew that there were rno:e to be apprehended there than had long been, for never had any body so completely carried with them the feelings of the people of Ireland as the Catholic Association, and never was there greater confidence placed in any man t h an was placed in his friend Mr. O'Connell—he was proud to call him his friend. The Government of Ireland had never been so anxious to preserve the peace of the country as - the Association had_been. So far from giving his vote that the House should now go into a Committee on this Bill, it was hie intention to move that it be considered in a Committee this day six months. Hee did not think that any case had been made out that would justify the House in going into a Com mittee. He begged pardon of the Honourable Members for having said so much, but he begged pardon of his country, for not having said much more. He could for' day and night continue to advocate the 'cause, to support which he would Tea.. . dilivsaerifice his life. -- Mr. PLUNKETT begged to call back the attention of the Howe to the question under consideration, and from which his • Hon. Friend (Mr. Hutchinson) had so widely departed, in' .. taking SO wide a range, as to have gone back even into the. History of Ireland at some length. That Hon. Member con ceived that no case had been made out ; and there he (Mr. P.) was satisfied to let the matter rest. He wished, however, to say a few words relative the . indtion of the lion. Member for Montrose ; and he would observe that he was anxious as that Hon. Member, or any other person could be, to prevent the admission of any member of any unlawful society into office under Governmefit. He was,: however, perfectly satisfied that the mode proposed by the Honourable Member was not one calculated to produce the desired ends, or one that ought to he resorted to. The mode proposed-was to administer an oath, and the method was an unexampled one. The person to be admitted into office must thus first swear that he is not a mem ber of any illegal society, and then he must swear so the law, for he must know what the law on the subject is. He (Mr. Plunkett) had never heard of compelling a party beforeonter mg into office to swear to a point of law. Again, a society be came illegal in consequence of the conduct of a portion of its members, and the law provided that an individual should not be answerable for that of which he had no knowledge. The Hon. Member would then make a person swear to a point of law, and a point of law of which he might not be cognizable.— lie (Mr. Plunkett) had every confidence in his 'Majesty's 31i nisters, and he hoped and believed that they would not nomi nate any person to office who was a member of any illegal society. Mr. DENMAN felt some objection to his lion. Friend's motion, because it went to impose a test upon coming into office which was improper. lie thought, however, that it was necessary to prove to the people of Ireland that this was an impartial measure. It was necessary they should see the Orangemen placed on the same footing as the Catholics. The Right Hon. and Learned Gentleman appeared to think a man could not swear to an act of which he might not be cognizant. That was a_ correct view of the question, and that objection might be applied to the Bill. A man might be fined and im. prisoned because he became a member of an illegal society, whether he knew they acted illagally or not.—(A cry of No, no !)-11e found certainly a qualification in that respect which he had not before seen, but still he considered the Bill bad, and if the House went into a Committee upon it, he should sup . - port the motion of his Hon. Friend. Mr. Sec.retary PEEL said, he would trespass but a few mo ments on the time of the House. It was quite clear that the Hon. and Learned Gentleman (Mr. Denman) had not taken the trouble of reading this bill. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman objected to the second clause, and it was only on the suggestion °tan Hon. Gentleman near him, that he read the third clause, in which his objection was obviate ; and on reading which, he admitteclthat his argument had no force. It was not too much surely to ask the Learned Judge (Mr. Daman) to hear the de fence before be condemned the prisoner. His Right lion. Friend (Mr. Plunkett) did not cast any blame on the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Hutchinson for any thing that had fallen from him. What his Right Hon. Friend objected to was, the discus sion of this measure again after the principle had been so often debated. There was a distinct proposition before the )louse., and it would be consulting their time and convenience to con fine themselves to that. The subject of the Irish rebellion might be an important one in itself, and very well worthy of consideration, but that was not the time for entering into it.— He should not have risen at all were it not for a few expressions that fell from the Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. H.) If we cannot, said the Ilonourable Gentleman, shame Ministers from the measure, we will endeavour to terrify them from it. He would tell that Honourable Gentleman that he (Mr. Peel) would not be terrified or shamed from any thing Iwhich his duty called upon him to p er form. H e m i g ht .b e mistaken, and those who differed from him had a right to answer his arguments or arraign his motives; but no vehe mence of language should ever induce him to depart from that course of conduct which duty to his sovereign and to the country prescribed. The Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Hutchinson) talked of the corrupt majorities of the House of Commons, and yet, in the very same breath, in the very sentence fbllowing, ex pressed his reliance on the wisdom and the liberality of a 'Bri tish House of Commons for removing the disabilities affecting the Roman Catholics. With such impressions of the wisdom and liberality of the House, how could the Honourable Gen tleman for a moment suppose that they could be in fluenced by corrupt motives to support such a Bill as this ? It would be an insult to the House to attempt to defend them against such a charge. With respect to the proposi tion immediately before them, it had been so ably opposed by his Right Honourable Friend (Mr. Plunkett) that it was unnecessary for him to enter into it. If agreed to it could not have the effect expected from it. Suppose such a test were required from any person connected with illegal societies, was there not likelihood that the man who, knowing the state of the law, could content himself with them, would not have much difficulty in having recourse to perjury, sooner than not get into office ? Supposing him to belong not to secret but to Orange Societies, he (Mr. Peel) had no difficulty in saying that it would be the duty of Government to remove him from his situation as soon as the fact was ascertained.—(llear !)—lle opposed the clause on principle, because he thought such tests objectionable. It would not effect the object proposed. It would afford a pre cedent for so objectionable a mode of legislation, that he trusted the good sense of the Honourable Gentleman (Mr. Hume) Would induce him to withdraw it. Mr. C. H. HUTCHINSON, in explanation, said, that he had used the words " shame" and " tertify," as applied to his Majesty's Ministers, in a Parliamentary sense only.-- (A laugh.) Lord A LTHORP understood his Hon. Friend to imply by the words in question nothing more than his sense of the danger arising to the nation from the measure in question. He (Lord Althorp) was also one who thought that measures of this kind had always an evil tendency to produce bloodshed and confu sion ; but he did trust, in this case, that the good sense of the Catholics themselves, and the influence of the Catholic As sociation, would obviate all fatal consequences of that sort, and preserve the peace of the country.—(Hear !)—lt . had afforded him great pleasure to-night, to hear from the Right lion. Secre tary of State (Mr. Peel), that con 4olatory pledge that no Orange man would be permitted to hold office. He did believe that this single declaration from the Right Hon. Gentleman would do more to put clown all illegal societies in Ireland than these Bills or any other means whatever.—(Cheers.)—lt was on this account that he (Lord Althorp) was glad that his Hon. Friend (Mr. Hume) - had submitted this proposition to the House ; whether it was now likely to be attended with any effect or not he did not know ; but the country was under obligations to him for affording the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Peel) an opportunity of making the very important declaration he had made. Sir R. WILSON defended his Honourable Friend the Member for Cork. Having been referred - to with respect to the rebellion in Ireland, he was prepared to say the rebel who attempted with his feeble pike to defend his country, was not so guilty as those who had driven him to desperation by oppressive measures. His Honourable Friend did not sup pose he could terrify any English Gentleman, but had used the word terrify in a political view. He might ask the Right Hon. Gentleman, whether he was_prepared to withhold the Catholic Question, and produce thereby a civil and religious war in Ire land ? This was a question which ought to terrify any man.— (Hear, hear !) Mr. 11. C. BUTLER (as we understood the Honourable Gentleman's name to be) complained that the House,had that night heard rebellion—the rebellion of Ireland in l7)B—deli berately advocated.—(Hear, hear !)—He strenuously opposed the motion.pf the Member for Aberdeen. Mr. HUME rose to reply. The House would permit him to say a few words—(A loud cry of " No, no.")—The Hon. Gentleman then signified that lie would divide the House.— (" Question, question.") The gallery was cleared, but no division took place, and the clause was rejected. On the question for the SPEAKER'S leaving the chair—the gallery was again cleared, but no division took place. On our re-admission to the gallery, we found the Bill corn. mitted, and the blanks filled up • Mr. SPRING RICE at the same time protesting that no modification of the Bill could ac cord with his view or that of his friends. The House resumed; the report was ordered to be taken into further consideration on Thursday night; and the Bill was or dered to be printed as amended. SUPPLY. Mr. BROGDEN appeared at the bar with the report of the Committee of supply. Mr. HUAIE objected to its being brought up at that late hour. On this objection a division took place, when the numbers were-- For receiving the report - 50 Against it - - 9 Majority -—4 l The report was then brought up, and the resolutions agreed to. FINANCE STATEMENT• - - Mr. HERRIES, on behalf of the Chancellor of Exchequer, postponed the statement of the finances from Friday to 3louday next. Lord PALMERSTON gave notice, that he would move the Army Estimates on Friday next.—Adjourned AT HALF-rAsT TWELVE O'CLOCK. It is reported in London, that unless other more important changes take plate in the Irish Administration between this and Easter, Mr. PLUNKETT will cert a i n l y ge t the Irish Chancery Seals. We also have i t from good autho rity that Ministers are determined, under existing circumstances, not t o di sso lve Parliament,this year.—( Irish Tiincs.) PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS. .01F COMMONS. • • • Martis, 122° die Februarii, 1825. ROADS—Leominster 'and Hope,' Winchester and Petersfield, Gravesend and Wrotham, Halworthy, Leeds and I'Vhitehall, Lockwood and Meltham, and Princes Risborough—Bills or dered. Cheltenham, and Cheltenham and Gloucester—Re ports on Petitions for Bills referred to Select Committee on Standing Orders. Malli»g and Strood, and Leeds and Tong Lane-end—Bills read a first time. Wigan, Gatherley Moor, and Bridgnorth—Bills read a second time, and com mitted. Shepley-lane Head (No. 2;—Petition for Bill re ferred to Committee on No. 1. Birmingham and Tewkes bury—Petition from Trustees of Broomsgrove Road, against —to lie on the table. . . RAIL S—Runiney—Bill read a second time, and com mitted. Manchester and Bolton, and DytTrin ports on Petitions for Bills referred to Select Committee on Standing Orders. • Lin r G—Chesterfield HMI BO I; R—PeMbreY (No. 1) IllanKETs—New Ito,s, and Exeter COUNTY TRANSFER OF LAND—To empower Ma&s trates at Quarter Sessions to effect the transfer of parcels of land from one County to another, for the more conve nient administration of justice PARISIIVESTRIES (I:eland)—To amend the Laws re- "1 specting Parish Vestries and Assessments in Ireland TENEUENTS (Ireland)—To amend the Law of Ireland respecting the the subletting of Tenemmts JUSTICES OF PEACE (Ireland)—To regulate the Office I of Justice of l'eace SEWERS—To amend the Laws relating to Sewers . WATEnwonNs—Chesterfield .1 Pi Eu—St. Ives J Reports referred to CANAL—Manchester and Dee Ship Select ComMit- DRAINAGE— Metheringhani and Dunstan tee on Standing OAS LlGHT—Glasgow Oil j i Orders. Cit u RC It—Poole COMPANlES—Equitable Loan (Petition of Pawnbrokers of London and Westminster, against, referred to the Com mittee on the Bill, !Counsel ordered); London and West minster Oil Gas (Petitions of Ratcliff and London Gas Light • Companies, against, to lie on the table); and Imperial Con tinental Gas—Bills read a second time, and committed. Welch Iron and Coal Mining—Bill read a first time. DOCKS—St. Katharine's—Five Petitions,- against—to lie on the table. Notice taken on the 2d reading of the Bill that Mr. Grenfell, who voted with the Ayes, is a Subscriber to the undertat.:ing:—Motion made, and queStion proposed, " that the vote of Mr. Grenfell be disallowed :" —Mr. Grenfell heard in his place, and stated, that he is a Subscriber to the undertaking, conceiving that it would be for the public be nefit:—And then he withdrew :—Question, " That his vote be disallowed," put, and agreed to stem. con. Bill read a second time, and committed. . _ ImPnOVEMENTS—Stourbridge, and York (No. 2)—Bills or dered. Ilanley and Sheldon—Report on Petition fot% Bill referred to Select Committee on Standing Orders. NAvlGATlox—stour and Sandwich Harbour—Petitions from sandwich, in favour—to lie on the table ; and from Ford _ w ordered. l cb against—referred to the Committee on the Bill, Coun sel Two PEN Nrus ScoTs—Dalkeith—Bill read a first time. CHAPEL—Hastings —Bill read a second tithe, and committed. lircLosunEs—Strenuall (York), and Eton (Bucks) —Petitions for Bilk referred to Committees. ASSESSED TAXES—Petitions from Monythuslane and Bed . welty, Woolwich, Deptford - , Bristol, Berwick-upon-Tweed, and Wakefield, for the repeal thereof—to lie on the table. COAL I)l,llEB—Petition's 'against, from Wisbeech, Gilling ham, Llangavelach, Milton, Warblington, Bideford, Oke hampton, Cheriton llythe, and Alton—to lie on the table. RomAx CATHOLIC CLAlMS—Petitions from Elliogarty (Tip perary), in favour, and from Bristol, AGAINST—to lie on the table. IIoIISE ANn WIN7Gow TA::—Petitions for the repeal thereof, from Liverpool and Clifton—to lie on the table. TOBACCO •DuTirs—Petition from Liverpool, against, to lie • on the table. UNLAWFUL SOCIETIES (Ireland) BlLL—Petition from Ca dams-town, Mylus-town„ and Ballynadrinma (Kildare), against—to lie on the table. Bt: MESE W.%. - P ape r s presented (by command)—to lie on the table. NOTICES OF MOTIONS FOR THIS DAY. 2. Mr. Grenfell—Account of Public Balances in the hands of the Bank of England, and of sums paid for management of the Public. Debt. 2.:11r. Hume—Ntunber of Officers promoted in the Navy in the last year. !:' 3. Mr. Hume—Account of Expence anti Establishment of the Marine Corps. 4. Mr. Bankes—British Museum Estimates. (In Committee of Supply.) 5. Mr. Hume—Account of the number of Ships built, and ex penditure in repairs. • ORDERS OF THE DAY FOR THIS DAY. 1. Annual Indemnity Bill—Second reading. 2. Supply—Committee. 3. Ways and Means—Committee. 4. Glebe Lands Bill—Third reading. .5. Exchequer Bills (1720,000,000) Bill—Second reading. 6. Transfer of Aids 13i11—Second reading. NOTICES GIVEN YESTERDAY. Friday, Feb. 25. - - I . ,;rti Viscount Palmerston—Army Estiniates. (In Com mittee of Supply.) Monday, Feb. 28. Mr. Chancellor of the Exchequer—Statement relating to the Finances of the Country. (In Committee of Ways and Means.) Deferred from Feb. 25. Tuesday, March I. Mr. Home Drummond—Bill for the more easy recovery of Small Debts in the Sheriff Courts in Scotland. Deferred - from Feb. 23. - • Tuesday, April 19. • Mr. Woolryche Whitmore —Bill to amend the Corn Laws. LIST OF THE MINORITY .............. ... On the question, Last Night, for bringing up the Report of the Navy Estimates. Althorp, Visct. Leader, W. Wood, Alderman Johnson,• Col. Martin, R. TELLERS. Horton, R. W. Palmer, U. F. Hume, J. Lamb, Hon. G. Rice, T. S. Caleraft, J. MINORITY Against the Second-Reading of. the Unlawful Societies ( Ire land) Bill, on the 21st February. Abercromby, Hn.J. Gurney, R. 11. Price, Robert Althorp, Visct. Hanolt m, Lord A. Parnell, Sir H. Anson, Hon. Geo. Heron, Sir R. Pym, Francis Benyon, Benj. Hill, Lord Arthur Ramsden ' J. C. Birch, J. Hobhouse, J. C. Ri ce , T. S. Brougham, Henry Iloneywood, W. P. Ridley, Sir M. W. Browne, Dorn. Ilornby, Ed. Robarts, A. W. Bury, Viscount Howard, 11. Robarts, G. J. Byng, George Hume, Joseph Robinson, Sir Geo. Benett, J. Hutchinson, Hon. Rowley, Sir W. Bentinck, Lord W. C. 11. Rumbold, C. Calcraft, J. 11. James. W. Robertson, A. Calvert, C. Johnstone,. W. A. Scott, J. Carew, R. S. Knight, R. Sefton, Earl or Carter, J. Kingsborough, Ld Smith, J. Caulfield, Hon. H. Lamb, Hon. G. Smith, George Cavendish, Ld G. Larnbton, J. G. Stanley; Lord Cavendish, C. Ley cester, R . Stuart, Lord P. J. Coke, T. (Norfolk) Lushin g t on , S. Sykes, D. Colborne, N. R. - Leader W. Somerville, Sir M. Crompton, S. 31aberfy, J. Talbot, R. W. Cradock, S. Maberly, W. Ti. Tierney, Rt.Hn.G. Davies, T. Macdonald, J. Townshend, Ld. C. Denison, W. J. 3 1ackintosh, Sir J. Wall, C. B. Dundas, Hon. T. Marjoribanks, S. Warre, J. A. Ebrington, Visct. M art i n, J. Webbe, Ed. Ellice, Ed. Miltgn, Viscount Whitbread, S. C. Evans, W. Mahon, Hon. S. Whitbread, W. H. Fitzgerald, RtHon. Martin, R. White, S. M. Newport, Sir J. White, Colonel Fergusson, SirR.C. Normanby, Lord Wilson, Sir R. French, A. O r d, W. Wood, M. Folkestone, Visct. Osborne, Lord F. Wyvill, M. Glenorchy, Vise. O'Brien, Sir E. Graham, Sandford Palmer, C. F. TELLERS. Grattan, J. Phillips, G. sen. Nugent, Lord Gren fell, P. Phillips, G. jun. Calcraft, J. Guise, Sir W. Power, R. , • Scrim) Es — Yesterday an Inquest was held at the Britannia publi c h ouse, G o ld en -lane, before T. Shetland, Esq. Coroner, on the body of Master 'William Hughes, a ge d seve nteen, the son of a respecta bl e tr adesman, who after having had some high words with his father, procee de d to his apart. m ent, where he susp en d e d hi mse lf by a cord, in which condi tion he was found quite dead. Verdict—" insanity." FRENCH LAW OF SACRILEGE. The following being official and certain de serves peculiar notice; It is an extract of the Law of Sacrilege, adopted in the French Chamber of Peers on Saturday last : " Article 4.—The profanation of the sacred vessels shall be punished with death, if it haa_been accompanied by the two following circumstances : " lst.—lf the sacred vessels contained, at the moment of the crime, the consecrated elements. " 2d.—lf the profanation is committed publicly—when it is committed in a public place, and in presence of several persons. " Art. s.—The profanation of the sacred vessels shall be pu nished by perpetual hard labour, when not accompanied by one of the two circumstances stated in the preceding article. " Art. 6.—The profanation of the consecrated elements, committed publicly, shall be punished with death. The execu tion shall be preceded by the amende honorable of the condemned person, before the principal church of the place where the crime shall have been committed, or of the place where the Court of Assize sits." The amendment proposed by the Count de Bastard, and se conded by the Viscount de Chateaubriand, and which was re jected by a majority of 108 voices against 104, was as follows : The profanation of the sacred vessels is punished by hard labour for a limited time. " The profanation of the sacred elements is punished by hard labour for life." The entire law was adopted by the Chamber, by a majority of 127 to - 92. FRENCH PAPERS. ( From the Etoile, dated Monday.) ODESSA, JAN. 28. It is well known that the Divan answered M. Minziacky in a very unsatisfactory manner, relative to the navigation of the Black Sea, and the administration of the two Principalities of Moldavia and Wallachia : but the cause of this new arrogance was by no means suspected. It is nothing else than the inun dation of St. Petersburgh. The Turks are persuaded that the Russian Empire must be reduced to a state of total debility by that event. TRIESTE, FEB. 6. Letters from Corfu of the 19th January give ample details of tile siege and maritime blackade of Patras, which have not been raised, as was reported ; but what is remarkable is, that these letters make no mention whatever of the landing, which, according to the Austrian Observer, the Egyptians had made at Caron or Modon. It is certain that the party of the rebels is entirely subdued or dispersed. The papers of Colocotroni have been delivered to the Government. The Russian influence is a mere cipher since the departure of Varvaki. The Lord High Commissioner, Sir F. Adam, returned on the 19th of January to Corfu, from a voyage which he had made to the More.--(Augsburg Gazette.) PARIS, FE8.20. Letters from Madrid of the 11th inst. announce some amelio ration in the health of the King of Spain. Ills Majesty had slept well the two preceding nights, and was much more easy. Prince Metternich is to leave Vienna on the 24th, to come to Paris. Great surprise is felt at Jassy that the Russian Consul does not arrive. There ig no indication of his return to the House of tnc Consulate, which is in great want of repair. It is thought that Pisani will not come to Jassy, but his successor is not mentioned. _ _ The communications with Bessarabia become more and more difficult. The plague has manifested itself at Ismail, and, be sides the Lazaretto at Scotero, a second has been established, half way to Odessa. No extraordinary movements have been remarked for some time past among the Russian troops between the Pruth and the Dniester. • The plague has ceased at Bucharest. ( From the Constitutionnel. ) A letter from Copenhagen, dated the 6th of February, states, that Sweden had determined to follow the example of England, and recoomize the independence of th e S outh American States ; and that Al. de lianswalf, who left Stockhohn for. Colombia four months ago, would be directed to negociate treaties with these Republics. HYDERABAD PAPERS. (No. Ilr.) FOR TIIE SUN. " Will the Etoile tell us by what numerical European force " we govern these one hundred an d twenty millions of men ? " And if our physical force, compared to this immense mass " of population scattered over an almost incomprehensible sur " face of territory, be hut as a drop i n the bucket,' by what " other principle can we govern them, but by that respect and " love which we generally inspire ? If we tyriinnized, and were " c onsequently hated in Indi a, our own subjects—to say " nothing of the hostile and jealous States by which the three " Presidencies are surrounded—would almost blow us off with " the blast of their breath : whereas, on the contrary—no mat " ter whether the natives dispute with each other or with Euro " peons—they still flock to our Courts for the administration of " justice. —( Times, Feb. 18.) Ma. ED)Tort—lt has been clparly shewn in my former letters that the establishment of Houses of Agency, or Banks, or the admission of Europeans in any shape, is im politic and dangerous. Why the British Minister, Mr. Fills- SELL, should have approved or recommended such a novel measure, he is best able to answer. I am fain to confess, nothing in his letter to the Court of Di rectors tends to satisfy my mind on the subject. The elevated rank he stood in, and the responsible situation he filled, would instanter remove any ideas of his being particularly friendly to, or in any way con nected with, Messrs. PALMER'S Bank. I can only account for this political aberration, in supposing that Mr. RUSSELL con ceived there was nothing irregular in the introduction of Mr. SoTHEBY into the firm, and nothing in contradiction to the express orders of Government on this particular point. Mr. RUSSELL WaS probably not aware, that no Officer,' Civil or Military, can enter into the service of a Native; and that should he obtain permission to that effect, it must depend on the Home Administration to confirm it. It is not perhaps known to Mr. RUSSELL, or to those generally conversant in India aftiiirs, that no Officer of the King's or Company's ser vice can, pending the acceptation of his resignation, remain in India : he is supposed to proceed to the Cape of Good Hope, and there to await the acknowledgment of his permission from home ; and return again to India to fill the station in society for which he had asked leave. Strange as it may appear, this necessary law is constantly evaded, and three or four whom I could notice by name have embraced different occupations, without going through the required forms; and as a return for Home Admi n i s t rat i on are the indulgence shewn the m, h ave become red-hot O r i en t a l u : it is no f au lt Reformers. If the Easte rn Govern ment allow their regul a tio ns to be daily violated (not in thi s instance alone, but in m an y ofmine, o n er ii idwoithfr I haveenn e given iecrhteltdctoonultdvlepn ando my consequences,in t a o r u e t d ), a and i thei which of late h ave h a d a opinions, tltiplying and spoke, I b e li eve, my honest sentiments. I shall shortly have occasion to do so in another shape, when some little incidents belonging to another. Native Court will excite some surprise. However, to our point, and the truth of the matter is, there is so much connected with the Hyderabad transaction s , Mr. RUSSELL, Messrs. PALMER , Mr. SOT:IEBY, Si r W. I , - nom), and others, that I really am afraid I must write a Book on the subject. 0 ! that mine enemy would write a 800k —I am an enemy to no man, but will, as a public character, as an old OffiCer, and the father of a family, speak that which my children shall not be ashamed to acknowledge hereafter as the act and senti ments of their parent. I cannot for a moment conceive how it was possible for a man of Mr. RUSSELL s experience, knowledge of the rules of the service, and the heavy charge attached to his official situation, to allow his political assistant, Mr So TnEriT, to become a partner, dormant or active, in the Firm of PALMER. A man clothed with the official power of an assistant, was certainly a most unfit person to be engaged, or participating in the pecuniary transactions of a debased Court, with a Firm of Agents, among whom he stood the acknowledged partner; how, I would to ask, could Mr. SOTHEBY act conscientiously in the dis charge of his high and important duties towards the Nizam, and with fidelity to his Partners ? The natural inference is, that as human nature goes, he would (or any other man) espouse the interest of those with whom he was identi fied, then what becomes of the independence and the vigilance of the British Officer at the Court of his Highness the Nizam Why, he is concerned in the acts of the House, must in 411 questions of pecuniary transactions be their friend, and look on with apathy at the fate of the Prince and his Court, with the same indifference he must view the proceedings of the British, whose Officer he is, and whose first and only duty is to support their character, and cherish their honour. Is it possible, of will any one have the temerity to tell me, that in the mixed character of Agent and Political Assistant he could act inde-i pendently, or render due service to the State by which he was 'employed. It follows, as a matter of course, hat in all affairs where the interests of the house were concerned, there must be a leaning ; and in looking at the money lent, 60 lakhs of rupees, which, including many lent to the Nobles and others of the Court, are little short of a milion sterling, the very name of such an official character, to say nothing of assistance and influ ence, was of the first moment, and consequently prized accord ingly by the house : it is inexplicable how Mr. RUSSELL could have permitted such a procedure. Had 1 been Resident,on the bare suggestion of a wish of the kind, I would instantly have taken effectual steps to stop all proceedings of the kind. Mr. RussE I.L'3 high character leaves it to be inferred that it was an error in judgment, a kindness toward the house, and a wish to serve the brother of the SoritEnv, who so gloriously fell at Sita Buldu, while seconding by his counsel and personal courage, the magnanimous conduct of one of the first men in India, my' friend RICHARD JENxixs at Nagpore. I promised to take a peep at the speeches at the India House., but really Mr. HUME, and Mr. D. EINNAIRD, said so fluky and that little so little to the purpose, on either of the ques , tions, that I am fain to trust to memory, for I have seen none of the papers. Before proceeding further in my objection to the establishment of Banking-houses, or the introduction of Europeans, except those in the service of the Government, must distinctly and unequivocally disclaim any hostility of prejudice towards any one of the parties mentioned, or to be mentioned in these Essays ; indeed with the exception of one Gentleman, they are to me perfect strangers, and I have not directly or indirectly had any intercourse, or held communica tion with them. With regard to the introduction of Mr. S (IT nlt into the firnt of PALMER and Co. no further comment is required ; happily it can form no precedent. After the animadversions passed by the Government, it is not likely that any other servants of the' State, will ever think of uniting the two characters of a Com pany's officer and that of an agent in a trading concern. It is. in this light that the objections most forcibly appear, and doubt , less it will strike every reflecting mind, that " we cannot serve' two masters ;" and in the very opposite situations a person thus. circumstanced must be placed in, it is clear that the duties of each office would constantly clash, to the certain disadvant'a'ge of one or other. Which would be most neglected (considering the frailties of our nature), it does not require the wisdom of 3 Solomon to discover; indeed we need not heavily tax our pene tration in finding out, that on the event of any collision taking' place, or the interests of the British Government, and the in terests of the Banking-house being at issue, to which side 0" partner would lean. To act consistently in such a case is im possible—it is absurd to question it for a moment—and that it is a case that would indisputably occur is certain ; in fact, it has already taken place. To prevent the recurrence of what would very speedily become a growing evil, I offer these few remarks, personally they apply in no wise or shape to any Were the precedence once tolerated by any favouritism of weakness on the part of the Supreme Government, in India there would soon be an end to the excellent system hitherto pursued in our relations with native courts—than which no.. thing can be more perfect or just ; in admitting this we must always bear in mind, the heterogeneous masses that we have : to deal with—the. moral state of the peopl e an d th e political state of the country ; which demand a certain line of conduct on our part, and which conduct has been confirmed by the success hitherto attendant on our intercourse with these countries ; but to depirt from it, in the smallest iota, would be to produce con; fusion and mischief ; the end of which no one can foresee. II things at any time go on wrong, let the reformation, or remedy be applied by the Government and Legislature of Great Britain; the proper and constituted authorities; but I protest most solemnly against . the task being allotted to political or money speculators, who most assuredly in this, as in every other inno vation, or interference, have only their own ends to serve. I have in a preceding passage stated that it would " become: a growing etil" and such I certainly think it would be. At the Native Courts, there would not be in a short time .0- single British Officer, possessing either influence or abilities, but would he infected with the mania of becoming a " ma n of business;" exclusive of the public duties he had to perform, the temptations would be too great to withstand, what then be comes of the intere s t of hi s G overnment , t h e o ffi c i a l i n t e grity or his character, that independence of spirit and action, insepe rably blended with a due and honest discharge of his pub '3' , duties ? they must all vanish a nd merge i nto t h e interest '— new occupation. _ Certain I am, that a few years would accomplish what I 11°I. state. Houses of business would increase ; British capital and British enterprise would find these rich countries a fine field' for their speculation ; but to what purpose either or both would be directed in the course of time is to me very clear ; can it for a moment be doubted, that in the unsettled state of these coun— tries under the rule of an ambitious, intriguing, and necessimt i. Prince, with a military nobility always faithless to Their Sove reign, needy and covetous, ever restless, and wishing for change, a population of warlike and turbulent habits, and, at the same time, the neighbouring States waiting for an opportunity to overrun ! the country. I ask, if in such a posture of affairs, is it either wise or humane, on our part,_ to admit adventurers, under whatever designation they may appear into those kingdoms ?-- Really, to hear some well meaning gentlemen talk, one would be' led to suppose that the kingdom of Hyderabad was Kent, and Bengal the county of Middlesex, whence a constable might be sent to take up an offender, and that of any public measure , was requisite in other countries, a Bill might be brought in to amend the Act of the last reign—that the Souboh of Bengal , and Nizam of Hyderabad were wise and good men, and on the same friendly terms as the Lords-Lieutenants of the Counties just mentioned—that Ru wa ECT Six a, at Lahore, was a peace able and well-disposed man ; and might, like the Lord Lieu" tenant of the distant County of York, in misbehaving, get hi's quietus, by a rap over the knuckles, from the Lords of elc . Privy Council—but to stop metaphor and to speak in homely terms. . _ " 'What must be sauce for the goose must be sauce for th e gander:" in other words, what has done for the Nawaub of th o . Carnatic (who by the bye was clearly fleeced of every pqgndl he had, and would now be a beggar, but fo r th e nece s sary an beneficent interference of the British) must do for the.Nizae l of Hyderabad, a brother Mahommedan : that what answers for the Mahratta Chief SINDIAff, must answer for .11 0 I,lcA n ' nothing of the kind.—The countries and governments, ar e totally dissimilar ; and nothing but the most inflex.ibl, integrity, and vigilant conduct, on the p a rt of able an a tried Public Officers of the Government, blended with la' mane and liberal conduct on the part of the executil itself, can for, a day maintain our present equitable,- happy rule—nothing, nothing,,must be left to the interfere o of foreigners, and adventurers; if there is, we shall repent and when too late, but it is the poor,Natives who will in tears W l ''' sighs have unceasing cause to deplore the vacillations of ou r Rulers and our abandonment of those principles, which 'ha'? for a century supported us in our oriental possessions. In my next I will go more into detail, but first, I wish to Pe i .' the Public in possession of the general featur es o f it 4 mac P talked of, and little understood" Hyderabad Proviaction." " London, Feb.l9. " I am, Sir, " Your obedient, " SUADOR." B LITERARY INTELLIGENCE. Mr. Nicuor.s's Collection of " The Pro gresses, Procesions, and Public EntertaimoOts' of King James the First" will contain (by the kind communications of his numerous Literary Friends) many interesting particulars, never he' fore published, of the King's welcome recep tion in various Corporation Towns, and of his Entertainments in the hospitable Mansions of the Nobility and Gentry whom he honoured by his Visits. Complete copies are also reprinted of several Tracts of extreme rarity, not to be se parately obtained but at an enormous expense ; amongst which are all the Masques at Court tiar' inn the 22 years of that Pacific Monarch's Reign, including those performed by the Gen' tiemen of the Inns of Court, and as many of the " London Pageants" of the period as can be me t with. Illustrated by Historical, Topographical, Biographical, and Bibliographical Notes, col" lected during the Researches of not less thea half a Century. This Work is printed uniformly with the "Progresses of Queen Elizabeth ;" a nti will form three handsome Volumes. The it" dustry, judgment, and research of Mr. NicuoLs are so well known, that this Woric will - of course be a valuable addition to British Literature, I I