The Sun. — London, England, 1831-06-22 00:00:00

*el 16tisout a dissolution of Parliament ; but when Ise !hard it asserted, as it was in the former Parliament, *lett a faction only gave their support to the measure, and aelieti he saw that the really factious were those 'who op posed it, he felt that the moment had arrived when justice could not be done to the people without an appeal to the peop'e themselves; and what had been the result? a ma jority, of nine to cue had, throughout the country, declared for it ; aye, he would go the length of eat , ing 20 to (A laugh)_he meant of 20 to 1 ; yes, five per atilt. of the whole population could not be polled against it,—he meant of course of the laity. In such a state of things' :then he must he allowed to say, that it was waste of time to occupy the attention a the House with Complaints against the Ministers for calling upon she people to exer ci.e their undoubted privilege. The whole country, at least that portion possessing the elective franchise, had been polled, and now the world had seen the teeth. As matters stood in the month of April last, his Majesty's Ministers had no alternative ; they could not go on, night ,after night, lowering the dignity of Parliament, as the House was then disposed to compel them to do; and mtrah as Parliament had, of late, down to lower its own dignity, tlaeoe was no one course of eonduct mere calculated to effect that object than was the conduct pursued by them in reference to the subject of Parliamentary Refs-tire -Hon. Members who had spoken in the course or this de bate seemed to charge the supporters of Reform with being the enemies of the Monarchy. If by that they meant to convey any imputation upon any Member of that House, let thorn name those to whom they alluded ; if they merely spoke of persons out of doors, let them say so at Uwe, and relieve Members of that House from an accosa tion, to which, he sincerely believed, no one of them was justly open. He avowed that he was a Radical Reformer. He was not one of those bit-by-bit Reformers, who would be content to throw away a favourable opportunity for oh- I tinting much, for the sake of some paltry and patty con cession being at the moment ensured. No; he had, year alter year, been lamenting the lavish expenditure of the country, and the degree in which it pressed upon the energies of the country, and dried up the springs of in dustry—it was, therefore, that he urged a chat:gas—it was, therefore, that he had ever been a Radical Reformer, and so would continue ; and lie hesitated not to affirm, that without some such as the Bill proposed to effect, the business of the country could not go on ; and such, he felt assured, was the universal feeling of the people, for let any candidate go forth into this metropolis or that county and canvass the opinions of the electors, he would find ' that the far greater majority—nay, he would say, an over whelming majority, us oulti rather have the Bill, the whole Bill, and nothing but the Bill, than go without any mea sure of Reform at all, as the opposers tof the Bill in trutk designed to let them. There was, certainly, no knowing but that the people might have been contented with a very small measure of Reform indeed, if the last Ministry had been prepared to make any concession—(Cheers)—but no concession would they make ; and in spite of all the adeice t hat had been given to the contrary, on they went in the same course utterly indifferent to the signs of the times at a moment when the whole world was in motion. When everything warned them toy ield, they declared that they would not yield a single jot. He declared he could not understand bow the good sense of the Honourable Baronet should have lain asleep for so long a period. He professed himself unable to account for such mental blunders, except by supposing that the Hon. Baronet had allowed himself to be influenced by patty feeling, and bad forgotten those great and leading interests which should alone govern the conduct of a British Minister. It was nothing but party feeling which could have induced the Right Hon. Baronet and his friends, the Members for Harwich, to abandon principles which they had long and warmly advocated, and support that which they had long opposed, merely to obtain the petty object of leaving an adverse Ministry in a tninority.—(Cheers.) He alluded to the proposition, the object of which was to remove the duties upon timber. When things hid been brought to that pass, he had no hesitation in saying that there could not be an act of greater wisdom on the p irt of the Sove reign, or one of greater decision on the part of Ministers, than the one to dissolve the Parliament, and the other to advise that important step. No doubt the party who dared the Ministers to dissolve, were defeated, end finding them selves now in a minority, were very tore upon the subject. If they were as well accoeaomed to being beaten as he was, they would bear their drubbing with better humour.—(A laugh.) Once ;note be would say that complaints were useless. The trial had been made, and the Reformers were successful ; and it ill became their opponents now to complain that the light of truth and the force of the 'test influence of the people had hcenlet in Upon them. He hoped that no credit would be given to the assertion that a new Bill, or a different Bill, was to Ix: introduced. He would not believe such a statement. No doubt Ministers would show their wisdom in attending to any suggestion res pecting the details of the measure which did not affect its fundamental principles; but he hoped, and did expect, that the measure of Reform would be carried through both Houses, and receive the Royal Assent, without any alter ation, excepting in such details as might be faulty, or by the introduction of such minor improvements as would not be inconsistent with the scope and spirit of the whole measure. Much complaint had been made of the alleged rise of the King's name in reference to the Reform Bill.— It required but a slight effort of memory to call to mind the occasions without number in which the cry of " Church amid King" had been raised by the Hon. and Right Hon. Gentlemen below him, and yet now they were the first to cry out against a use of the King's name. The present Ministers had not-used it one-tentl: part so often as their predecessors. As to the conduct of the Monarch, it was above all praise ; be had evinced the most paternal anxiety to promote the interests of his people, and to meet their wishes in every respect, and, in fact, he bad proved himself better acquainted with their real wishes and sentiments than many of those who would fain be Isis advisers. It was said of him, and those who thought with him, that they were enemies of the Monarchy; but the fact was, that they only desired to see the Constitution brought back to its original principles. Finally he had but to say that he sincerely thanked the Government for the Bill they had introduced, and he the more thanked them when he remembered the manner in which they had appealed to the country for the support of that Bill. 'Mr. ATTWOOD, adverting to the resolution of that House in the last Parliament on the subject of the slate and coal duties, contended that that resolution could not have the effect of an Act of Parliament, and that, with an important tax in that condition, Ministers in breathless haste thought proper to advise the Sovere'gn to dissolve the Parliament, for they knew that they would not retain their power fur one fortnight longer, without having re course to that step. Ile did not question the undoubted prerogative of the Crown to dissolve the Parlianaent ; but he must be allowed to observe, that it was a prerogative, the exercise of which had at all times been viewed with the utmost jealousy—and that Ministers in advising its ex ercise incurred a deep and serious responsibility, and were answerable for all the evils arising from it. . . _ _ _ An Hon. Mtmamt, whom we understood to he Mr. Trevor, deplored that a measure of such extensive opera tion should have been introduced—not that he was against all Reform, but that he wished rather to see a Reform more in conformity with what he conceived to be the true prin ciples of the Constitution. There could be no doubt that a re-action would take place, and that eventually there would be such a modification of the measure as would, he hoped, insure the preservation of the Constitution. Mr. TRANT contended that the conduct of Ministers was unprecedented, unconstitutional, and mischievous. There never was an occasion which more urgently called for calm deliberation than the present, and there never was an occasion in which they were less likely to enjoy that advantage. Before he sat down he would caution the Government to beware how they again called forth such excitement as prevailed at that moment, for the time might soon come when they would desire to allay it, and be unable. 'Mr. HUNT observed, that the Speech from the Throne naturally divided itself into two parts—that which related ... _o u t,.u c r , foreign and that which took notice of our domestic "...• The better judgment of every man would be a fr g ,, a7t ai w v a e ir u ,• but if he were to indulge passion, he would half what he possessed rather than see the It'hoeleapudbell:royppead by the Russians. It bad been stated in that 200,000 stand of arms or dered Birmi p ri er ha rn for the use of the Russian w s e ; re tha the manufacturers were unable to meet the order, but that Government accommodated them and their employers with a supply from the T whether that fact were so? He wished to know He could not b e li eve th em guilty of such a departur e from the liberal principles they professed. He now had Twenty aq,ueensttyioinnntoa put on th e su bj ect of our domestic policy. sacrificed during the late unhappydistunr b being a h a d b een Member b.a ofabne disturbances e Wales,e and he wished to learn from some an se on foot d t merit whether or not such an inquiry as might be expected to lead t o t h e discovery ment of the parties offending in that case? He tr u p ,, u r e Tt answer to this last question, one of the Cabinet Ministers waled rise and assure the House that the fullest iiquiry was about to take place. He begged to assure the Noble Lord (Mahow), that be (Mr. Hunt) was, as well as the Hon. Member for Middlesex, a radical both in principle and in practice, and as such he should always, both in and out of the House, speak his sentiments. He could assure the House that he had very lately received an expression of the public opinion -.:410t, however, for:anything that be him awl( has laid, bat for what he had heen misrepresented to have said, both by Members of that House and by the public Press of the country. He bad been called an terretny to the Reform Bill . ; but the fact was, that be had voted for that 13111; but then it was said that he had spoken ~ against it, 'to Which his answer was, that he had hot 'spoken tegitiatst that part for which he had trotea. He was 'far Reform, and would vote for that Measure which went %reheat, whether inn-ode-eel by Whig or Tory. If, there fore, he shoeld hot vote for the Bill proposed by the Mi nisters', he hoped that it would not be put through the Saiuntry that he had been the means of the MI being lost, for now fortunately the GovernMent bad a sufficiently large majority without lain. Vac, therefore, begged 'thus early to state, taat when they came in the 'Committee. to the elatuie tallith proposed to give 'the right of voting to the holders of 10/. houses, he shoeld move, as an amend talent that the privilegea should be so extended as to make it a general heueelsold suffrage. Mr. LAMB, in reply to the questicsaa lint by the Hon Member for Preston, begged 'SO state, that with regard to the purchase of arm in 'this country by the Russians, the Government latiew nothing about it ; but with respect to the etereinent about the arms at the Tower, ite sire]) thing had taken place.—( Hear, hear.) With tegaid to the question relating to the persoiss who bad beets tio unfor tunately slain et Merthyr Tydvia he could assure the House, an the part of the Government, that sorry as they were to have to give an explanation on so neeuaii fil a subject s they would have been still More sorry if they bed not had an opportunity of affording that expla nation, as silence on tha question might have cast appearance of meta on the Government which it by no means; deserved. He should think that every lion. eantleman must, from the atateitteill that had ap reared in the newspapers, be eatisfied that it was impos sible to avoid the catesttVlie that had so unfortunately taken place. The Tact was, that the firing which had ne casioned the fatal event had not taken place till it Was ab schtsety necessary for the safety of the troops and the magistracy in the town. ' Whatever the first origin of the discontent might have been, the rioters had at that period come into the town with the intention of plutelerlaaa and that intention they bad carried into execntion to a great ! extent, and had at last made toditact attack on the troops in the street, while tatro at the windows did not fire till thirty stand of at .s had been taken away from the teoraaa in the stmt. With regard to there being lab . a:hirener's Inquest, that circumstance arose faun the commander of the troops finding it impnesibre to hold possession of the town. He 114 therefore, retreated, and left the place in the possession of th e r i o t ers ; th e b o di es were theta alit in a 1 stable Ireland the inn, and were substquentlyaarried away by their relatives before six o'elosak and buried, though it I was not known where in many instances. It was, there- I fore, impossible 1 1 ...,r the Ceroner to hold his inquest home-' I diately; bat it was necessary to add, that instructions had been sent down to hold such inquiry se catildaie effected; and the coosequence was, that cti inquest hat been held, and that others were going en. It also ought to be remembered that the vertlaat returned on that inquest which had ter minated was justifiable homicide.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. SADLER said that if it wan :quilted of the House to set about the inquiry Why there was distress in Ireland, it would he endertalcing an investigation which had been well ascertained long ago. It had been shown over and over again that it arose from the unnatural deser tion of those who should be the main support of the poor. A Roman Catholic prelate had done him the lionottr to address a letter to him the other day, in which he stated that nineteen in every twenty of the licit proprietors of Ireland were ab , entees. This Was a grevious complaint, and had existed ever since Ireland had belonged to England ; and unless steps were speedily taken to counteract the egects that this produced, they must prepare theineelves to meet the inevitable result which would follow. His Majesty's Speech, in alluding to the disturbances which had taken place, said that they were unconnected with political causes ; then if they were not political disturbances, thee must arise from those circumstances that Blackstone called a fatal rule and policy, which, if Cot remedied, would prove equally fatal in their consequences. It was a well known fact, that the resources of Ireland had increased during the last century in a larger proportion than those of any other country ; but if that increase had not been the means of giving relief to the sufferings of the people, of what advantage was it to the country. He had always been an advocate for a system of Poor Laws in that country; and should take the first opportunity of sub ' mitting to the House a plan for the legal support of the Pone of Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. SHELL said, that as the Speech from the Throne had adverted to Ireland, it could not be deemed irrelevant, on his part, to call the attention of the House to it.— Although Reform engrossed the public mind, still the connection of Ireland e ith Reform, independent of other considerations, roust warrant an Irish Member in calling the present condition, and the likelihoods connected with the future state of Ireland, to their notice. Together with Reform, a series of salutary measures ought to be intro duced, which would relieve the real grievances of the country, and show the Irish people that their solicitude for the repeal of the Union was unreasonahle. There could be no doubt that the question of the repeal of the Union was every day becoming more fatmidable. The dis cussion of the Catholic question, and the manner in which it was of necessity carried, prepared the public mind for the reception of another question still more na tional, and calculated to excite the popular passions.— The great influence acquired by one distinguished indivi dual was combined to assist and call out the instincts of nationality, which had become peculiarly excited by the former struggle. What, then, del it behove Govern ment to do? They should counteract the numerous cir cumstances, which were their antagonists, by measures of substantial benefit. Ile then adverted to the ne cessity of making a provision for the poor, and recom mended an absentee-tax, as calculated at once to re lieve the distresses and satisfy the feelings of the people. He called the attention of this House to the necessity of conciliating the Catholic clergy; but de ptecated any motion of linking them by a pecuniary, or what he would consider an ignominious tie. By en ' trusting them with the education of the people, by yielding to their complaints against the spirit of proselytism, and by increasing the funds granted for educating, and placing them more or: leas under the controul of the Catholic Hie rarchy, a fair, a legitimate influence, founded upon recipro cal confidence, would lie obtained. He was well aware that much of what he had suggested might be deemed irre levant, but he thought it his duty, as an Irish Member, not to permit the concerns of that country. which was every day rising in importance, to pass without a particular no tice. Let the Government, adhering to the wise and lofty principles by which their policy had been in other respects directed, engage in the noble enterpri'e of giving comple tion and perfection to the great work of national pacifica tion, without which they had been told by its advocates that nothing could be effected for Ireland, but with which alone they were also told that all could not be accom plished; and remembering that they were to consult the real interests of a nation, and not the narrow views of a faction, let the Statesmen, to whom the destinies of this great empire were confided, not content themselves with fastening the countries by mere statutory bonds, or the mere ligatures of law, but blend them by gradually diffusing the consciousness that both were in the enjoyment of the same privileges, the same benefits, and the same constitu tional freedom ; and thus by the wisest, as well as the most exalted means, lay the basis of their perpetual happiness in their inseparable connexion. Mr. GEORGE DAWSON should not have risen but for what had fallen from the Hon. Member for Middlesex, and the extraordinary unwillingness which was evinced by the Members of the Government to rise in their places. He wished to call the attention of the House to the cir cumstauces which had attended the dissolution of the last Parliament. A question was put to the Noble Lord(Althorp) by Sir R. Vyvyan, a Member of the then Parliament, at five o'clock in the evening, to ascertain whether it was the intention of the Government to dissolve the Parliament, or to go on with the Reform Bill. The Noble Lord had stated on the present evening, that he answered one of those questions—that relative to the Reform Bill ; but that with respect to the other he had given an evasive answer,which he (Mr. Dawson) must confess had nut conveyed to his mind the impression which the Noble Lord said it had been intend to convey, viz., that it was the intention of the Government to dissolve Parliament —( Hear, hear.) However, he now had the right to assume that it was the intention of the Government, at five o'clock on that day, immediately to dissolve Parliament. Now let the House remember what took place afterwards. The debate on the question of the Liverpool election lasted till half-past one ; and at that hour the adjourn ment of the House was moved, and the Noble Lord and his colleagues bad thereupon stated that the sup plies of the night were refused, or at least delayed. He (Mr. George Dawson) begged, however, of the House to remember that the Noble Lord's impression of dissolu tion was intended to be conveyed at five o'clock, and that the ot. t al t ou w se as o t f h L e o r r e d f s u , n i l t 07 a a t he: the adjournment did not-take place till half-past one. In Government to dissolve the Parliam e t—(Ch pee d su b pt i ptli t ioe h ns e tt: L taa o tt rd ind C u li ce an d ce Chancellor he (Mr. Dawson), therefore, thought la it eers)—and t w h as ei‘ n i o i t ni now too much to express an should rise and explain all these contradictory circu i t y stances.—(Cheers.) The dissolution, however, did take place ; and, in consequence, many gentlemen thought proper to, address the electors of different parts of the country. Among others, 'the Right Hon. baronet (Sir J. Graham) bad addresSed tht electors of Cumberland in a hand-bill, in t7hich he had made use of the following ex- The last division, which had the effect of delaying the supplies"—(Cheers from the Opposition, an swered by long-continued cheering from, th'e benches.) I doubt moch , , cons etted the sight Hon. Gen tleman, whether the l uta Hon. Baronet will cheer when heats tlle thole "of the sentence.—'(Cheers:) " Ths last division, which bad the effect of delayin tbt supPlie left no alte'rnatiVe"—(Cheers reuttVed from the Ministerial benches)—" left ho alternative"--4renewed and vehement cheering ) Gentlemen have cheered that quite enough —(A laugh, and cheering continued)—" left no alter native"—(Laughter and cheers.) Gentlemen mistake if they think ttey can get rid of the sentence in this manner " lert no alternative but that of abandoning the Bill, and appealing to the sense of the people,”---(Loild and long continued cheering from the Ministerial tide of the Hou.e, during which the Right Holt: Gehtleinan made title or two further bbserv&tiotfs., which did not reach the gal lery, ut sere marked renewed cheering from the same side of the House.) From this, then, it *neared that the last division which took place, at one in the, morning) left no alternative but that of al andoning the Bill, which, according to the Noble Lord, was abandoned at five o'clock in the iliternoon.—(Loud cheers.) The hand-bill he had read to the House bore the signature of the Right Hon. Baronet. If it was not his / —no productiott-'—; P- laugh )—.no one would receive .tech A contradiction with more plea sure than he aimuld ; but if no such contradiction was altered, the Opposition side of the House had no right to be taunted with having brought on the dissobk.tion; by refusing the supplies.—(Hear, hear.) Ile would venture to say, that there '.'.7zt9 hot a man who had voted in that divitiet of which he had spoken who had contemplated that, by so doing, he should be postponing the supplies: If a postponement of the supplies called for a dissolution of Parliament, the Hoe. Member for Middlesex would have been the cause of thirty or forty dissolutions, for at tatt so often had he been the cause of postponing the supplies.—(Hear, hear.) Such a thought-, hew ever, was too ridiculous to he I , .iltertained for a single minute, zed., ill fact, it had only been made use of Ft& a paltry election purpose.—(Hear, hear.) the consequence of the sudden dissolution was, that no Act of Approbation had been passed ' • and with respect. tb the Ordnance Estimates, none of them had teen vAed ; the Govern ment, therefore, was in an awirli-Aid situation, for if they had gpne on paying t!4.i di nance expences, they must come to that House fel' toln Act of Indemnity; or if they had funds to meet the eXpenditure, either from the sale of stores, or from a residue of last year's votes, the absurdity of the clamour raised about the public service having suffered from the postponement of the votes was aggravated in a ten.fold degrOz: They had heard a great deal about thejriumphatft result of the elections, and the majority Whitt% the Ministry had in that House. He could only tat', that Wherever he had exercised any franchise, he had found himself met by the most unfair, perverted, and im proper influence on the part of the Government—(Cheers.) He was very glad to hear that some temporary relief hod tiben afforded to Ireland; but he believed that If at all by the Government, it must j , ave been b it very lately; for he had re cently heard M - ember of the Committee in this town, that witlifq a Rw days no relief had been afforded; but that, on the tiiiitrary, the Governnient had exhibited a great indifference, apathy, and even coldness to the distresses of Ireland. He un derstood this to be the fact, even after it had been stated to the Government that 140,000 people were without subsistence, and that many of them had actually died of starvation. Indeed, he had been informed that when a deputation had ftirbediti way into the office of the timid fiocretary, the first question put by him was, Is there any distress hi lteland t" If that was not true, the sooner it was answered the better; for the report of it had spread fai and wide, and had already made an alarming impres 'sibil upon the people of Ireland, and a still more alarming impres sion it would make if not contradicted.---(Hear.) The distress was urgent and immediate, and it ought to have awakened in the breasts of the Ministry more feeling than was evinced in the ex pression put by them into his Maksty's Speech.—(Hear.) Sir J. GRAHAM said, the Right Hon. Gentleman had said soreethillg in a tone of personality which it seemed the House desired should be laid aside, and bad brought forward certain charges against him. He had at first doubted whether these charges were personal, for he felt that if they were, that was npt the place for him to call for an explanation of therli.—(" Oh:' and hear, hear.) The Noble Lurti who cheered so loudly, and who, on a former occasion, had produced from his pocket a volume of Shakspeare, to show what crows would do in a Reformed Parliament, himself exhibited, even in an unreformed Parlia ment, something of the kind ; and when he talked of crows, lie should recollect that there were daws, who would peck at a cha racter which they attempted to soil, but which they could not. destroy.---r Loud and continued cheering). Another Hon. Mem ber, by hii reductions ad tebsurdant, by his insinuations about paltry, insignificant nisi:elves, had thrown a few random shots, which passed by those against whom they were aimed, but might reflect on himself. Even when thus attacked, he (Sir J. Si) had been unwilling to enter on his defence ; but when the Right Hen. Gentleman, with whom from his earliest youth lie had been on terms of friendship---when he thought that the cha racter thus attacked suffered something !Yam the imputation cast on it, he (Sir J. G.) could fibt hesitate longer to obey the call, not in deference to him, but in deference to his (Sir J. G.'s) own character, and in deference to the House, for which he generally entertained a deep respect..--(Hear, hear, hear.) He had had other reasons besides those now mentioned for. abstaining from defending himself on this occasion.— He had not an accurate recollection of the words of the Address which had been read. The Right Hon. Gentleman opposite had the advantage of him, by coming down with the words of the Address itself; without giving him notice—(Hear) ss-a document Which, since the time when it was published, he had neither seen nor thought of. He thought, when the sub. ject was first mentioned, that he had not used the word "re fuse" with respect to supplies, nor that he had said any thing about stopping the supplies. The Right Hon. Relation of the Right Hon. Gentleman, who first alluded to the subject, had done him justice by reading the words of the Address, from which it appeared that the word " stopping or refusing the sup plies" had been in the Address, but that he stated that a certain motion, on being carried, had had the effect of " delaying" the supplies.—(Hear, hear.) But the Right Hon. Gentleman had been vastly circumstantial with respect to dates, and out of re spect to his own character thus attacked he (Sir J. Graham) should refer to circumstances, which he believed he could do, without violating the secrets of his Majesty's COueells; for if he did not feel he could do so, he should abstain from making the tblloeing statement:—On the Thursday evening Sir R. Vyvyan pid a question as to the intention of the Government with re spect to proceeding with the Bill. He admitted that the answer of the Noble Lord on the Thursday evening was positive as to one point but that the answer as to the dissolution was not direct,but was of such a nature as not to be misunderstood. He had already oh. served, that the quotation twirl his address was imperfect ; for there was no reference to more than one of three things. The first of these was the small majority on the second reading; and the next, the small majority against the Bill in a subsequent stage, which produced the third matter —namely, the delay of the supplies. All these went to make up the grounds of the de termination of his Majesty's Government. It had been this night said that the Noble Lord (Althorp) had not warned the Hon. Member for Marlborough that it was of the last importance that the supplies should be passed that night. He must say, that if ever a warning was given to any man of anything that would mcst assuredly happen should another event take place, that warning had been given on the occasion referred to.—(llear, hear, hear.) He would not stay to ask whether the course pur sued by Ilon. Gentlemen opposite had had the effect of delayin g the supplies, he would only observe that such was, from its very nature, most likely to be its effect. If Hon, Gentlemen had only sought to put an end to that discussion, they might have moved an adjournment of the debate; it was not necessary to move an adjournment of the House. He would appeal to their honour, as private gentlemen; he appealed in this manner especially to the Hon. and Learned Member opposite (Sir C.We therell) whether that was not the decided purpose of the gen tlemen who had acted together on that occasion. (Sir C. W. made some answer, welch, in the confusion of the House, w as inaudible.) He appealed to that Hon. and Learned Gentleman, because, among many honourable men, and many honourable men there were on that side of the House, there was not one man of higher honour than the Hon. and Learned Gentleman to whom he had appeale I.—(Hear, hear.) He asked, whether it had not been the intention of these Hon. Gentlemen to stop the Ordnance Estimates ?.--,:No, no.) He thought there was in the circumstances themselves strong evidence of the fact. Th e Right Hon. Baronet opposite seemed as if he felt that such was the object of the motion ; for he appeared unwilling to mix himself up with it, and left the House without voting.---(Sir R. Peel was understood to say, he was not present.) No, not when the motion was actually made, but during the debate, and almost within a few moments of the time of making the motion he had been present, though just before the moment at which it was actually made he left the House —(Sir R. Peel said lie was present on occasion of the debate referred to ; he made a long speech, and he left the House before the division; but not for the cause supposed by the Right Hon. Baronet.) Sir J. GRAHAM continued.—The effect of delaying the Sup plies was conchisive with the Ministers as to the necessity of Ms , solving Parliament. It was on Thursday they had felt strongly inclined to do so ; but atter that, though a difficulty arose that seemed insuperable, the dissolution became a matter of unavoid able necessity. He alluded to the Supplies tbr the Ordnance Estimates. It had happened, in 1784 and in NOT, that the Govern ment were placed in a similar situation. Parliament was dis solved without the Ordnance Supplies being voted. But it so happened, that it was discovered there was a sum voted and ap propriated, but not expended, and the difficulty the Ministry felt was unexpeetedly got over. Up to this moment the army and navy had been supplied from money voted by that House, and the Ordnance had been provided for out of a sum of money voted in the preceding year, and appropriated for that purpose, but which happened not to have been expended—(Hear, hear) — he was happy in being able to communicate that fact to the House.---(Hear, hear) Under' these circumstances he was justified in saying, that it was the vote of Thursday night which had convinced the Ministry that they would betray what they conceived to be their duty to their Sovereign and their country, if they did not advise the King to dissolve the Parlia ment.---(Hear, hear.) That was the plain unvarnished tale he had to tell them, he told it without the opportunity of refer ring to the documents, without consulting any person whatever —he told It upon his recollection of what had occurred; an d having done so, he threw himself upon upon the consideration of the House, and asked them fairly, whetherwhat he had stated was not a sufficient explanation—(dear, hear, hear,)—and whe ther (he was almost ashamed to ask it) the truth of his asser ttion was not amply proved by their own recollection of the I cir cumstances to which he had referred ?—(Hear, hear, hear.) With respect to what had been said regarding Ireland, he had no doubt that the Right Hon. Gentleman near him would be able fully to satisfy the House upon that subject. But there was one point upon which he himself wished to address a single observa tion. The Right Hon. Gentleman opposite had spoken of she influence of the Government as displayed in Ireland. The Right Hon. Gentleman ought to know something of the sort of influence lately exercised there, for it had been exercised in a part of Ireland with which he was well acquainted—the county of Derry. The present Government had there fulfilled a duty which the late Government had neglected to perform. He al luded to a sum of 15,000/. lent to the Corporation of Derry, and which, by the terms of an Act of Parliament was to be repaid within a specified time. That time had elapsed without pay ment, and, indeed, up to the period at which the present Mi nistry took office, the money had not been repaid. The pre- sent Government had felt it to he theirduty rigorouslyto enforce payment of this debt.—(Hear, hear.) He would now say one word with respect to the neglect of Government to supply relief to the Irish. lie did not thing that Government were bound to place implicit reliance on the Irish Committee. lie had the highest respect for the persons composing that Com mittee, but the Government had thought it more safe that their relief should be administered by persons over whom they pos• l i sessed an immediate controul, as, from the experience of former years, they became aware that many abuses had arisen in conse quence of the want of that controul over the p erson s employed to administer the relief afforded to the Irish. Now, what was the fact with regard to the supposed neglect of the Government? A fortnight ago they had sent out a person, a respectable officer of the Victualling Board, a gentleman of known ability, honour, and integritya man of great experience in the purchase of stores and provisions, with some means of relieving the diva. less. That gentleman was sent to Wc; r, it i s et' the distressed districts, with a limitation of his powe true, as to the amount oecredit he was to obtain, but still with a very extensive credit, and he was directed to :be most cautious in his selection of persons to be, entrusted with the distribution of the relief, but .he was instructed at the same time tet administer that ,1* elien wherever he was satisfied that, relief Seat atetkeliy Wanted:. In this conduct the Govern. eSent at home had been anticipated by the Irish Government, for his Right Hon. Friend; out of the finals in the Irish Ex chequer, had already addiihistered relief to the distressed Irish, end the% G,overnment at home had Oven to the. utmost vetise, aure of Parliamentate sanction.fF iii the urgency of the case, and tKeee itaricts where distress had been most prevalent it must be a consolation to the House to know that there was a confidential public officer administering relief.—( Hear.) Mr. J. SMITH said it was true applications had been made to the Government on the part of the London Committee, but it was not the fact that the Government had ever expressed any doubt as to the existence of distress in Ireland.—(Hear, hear.) He believed, on the contrary, that the strong but true picture he bad drawn of that distress had produced a neweenil effete on Government. The Member of LIM Government to whom the applicetion was iiiade said that; he had no power to order the application Of any hiciney; and the Noble Lord (the Cltaneellor of the Excheqner) Was then ishgagedat. his eleCtion• ' but as soon as, he returned to town the subject rhould be laifibefere hits. The Noble Lord did retaitis the ne.'st day, and iinniediately Wriate h letter, stating that the Government would take measures to remedy Oita dreadful etel.(Hear, hear; hear.) He etterwartis knew that the Gpvernment bad gives', money to relieve the distress,. but, he could, further assure tee HoUse, and it wohldbe sattsfattery,to every tel How, thdt the publicrempath's had been awakened, and those subscriptions which had fluctuated between 4 and 5,000/. for some days, had this very morning amounted to a sum exceeding 23,000/. He was happy to say that all the Members of the Government had Shown the greatest sympathy fpr the distress cif the Irish peasantry... 'Hear.) They bad : l ,4 lm a best deal th relieen it, etirhapd all that the eleentlistanees of their situation justified them in doing. This, however, was but a temporary relief; there must be one of a permanent nature; and if no one else proposed it, he should take upon himself to do so. It would be possible to lay some contribution on the land in Ireland; for the ptirpoee of preventing the peor frOm perishipg i o n ftr o tte Want. In, the eottrity Of Mayo. wa l s'adva e n r c ' e d d. 7eilrav:llintholmeaotef - ay fi t t e st. drain sly t 1 1 4 1 togs there, amisha d would afford present employment to a large numberofpoorpeople, and would secure a good return.--;Hear.) Lord STORMONT thought that the observations of the Right Hon. Baronet called fer some eephinatiote That Right lion. Rardelet httd ads : cited td the term( of a former debate. and said that he (Lord Storiliont) had attacxed his character. He did not know wily the Right Hon. Baronet had thus selected him. He was ready to meet the Right Hon. Baronet upon this point, at any time whatever. The Right Hon. Baronet said there were some daws which pecked at a chewier they could not soil—(No, no) —well, then, some daivs that peeked ,at a character which they etterapten to roil, but wilier' they could not injure. He itishee tit ask the Right Hon. Baronet distinctly, whether he was meant when that description was used lA—( Loud laughter.) He was ready to answer at all times and in all places for anything he had ever said or done in public or private, and lie called on the Right Hon. Baronet to say if, he was sneant. He would answer the questien Which the Right note Baronet had put to that side of the Itoute. He had voted for the rrleasutie referred to with the perfect consciousness that it would stop the business of the House.—(Cheering.) The Right Hon. Baronet said, th a t was one of the inducements of the Government to dissolve the Pasha , ment. Now he had given the Right Hon. Baronet a manful answer, and lie required the Right Hon. Baronet to answer in the same Mann& this qiiestien- , ewhether the motion of Lord Wharncliffe in the House of Lords was not the reason for the dissolution ?—(Loud cheering.) • A dissolution of Parliament, which was almost unprecedented, had taken place under peculiar circumstances. It was only three nights before that a motion to reduce the number of Members of that House was negatived; the Ministers saw they had no longer the confluence of the peoples and that Made them dissolve the Parliament; their opis nion was made up on the point, and he asked them whether it was not so, and whether the last vote had anything to do with it ? On the following morning they went to the King and requested an immediate dissolution. The Right Hon. Gentleman had spoken of the consequences of that; but there was one difficulty they had got over, about which they had said nothing he meant the position of the late Hon, and Leashed Member for Waterford. The Right Hon. Secretary would, no doubt, give some explanation on that wine The Hon: Member had been found guilty, by a Jury of his country, Of some act Which he had perpetrated the year bethre, and yet he bad not been brought up for judgment. [hat matter required some explanation. The next point relat ing to the conduct of Ministers was, as to the influence they had used during the elections, and not only they themselves, but the persons under them. Violence had been exercised, andi in one case a man bad been carried away in a post:chaise. These acts required the interposition of that Mime: The next point was, a dinner that had been given in Northumberland, where the High Sheriff proposed the toast—" The People—the only source of legitimate power ;" and proposed it before the health of his Majesty.---(Hear, and oh.) His Noble Friend was present at that dinner, and did not prevent the toast being drank. That cc tainly was a case which required explanation. He said that every person present was liable to blame ; but the Noble Lord opposita was estirse than shy other, tor he sat by and heard his Sovereign insulted, and said nothing, Such a toast was an insult. They on the other side had thought so, and they on his (Lord S.'s) side of the House, thought so still, and so did all the rank, and wealth, and talent of the country, anti they were not adu. lators. The other side---those who drank such toasts, were the fawners-.-the adulators of the base multitude. He would not detain the Hotise further. He assured the flight Hon. Baronet he had no intentien to Cast any imputation on the Right Hon. Baronet's character, and he hoped he should hear these points explained as frankly as he had explained his own conduct. Lord HOWICK said it was true that at a dinner at Alnwick the High Sheriff did give the toast referred to, and that it was drunk before the health of his Majesty. He agreed with his Noble Friend, that this course was wrong according to este ' blished etiquette; but, he was bound to sa.y, that in the acci dental departure from the general rule, the High Sheriff had intended nothing disrespectful to his Majesty—that the intens tion was precisely the contrary--that his Majesty was considered to resign for the benefit of his people, a sentiment which his Majesty himself would be the last to disclaiin.--(Hear.) No marked demonstration of feeling followed this toast • but on the health of his Majesty being proposed immediately afterwards, it was received in such a manner, that he would venture to say at no Pitt Club had it ever been snore loudly cheered. He wished that these Who suspected the loyalty of the people of Northutn. berland could have been with him during his late tour, and they would then have seen how much they were mistaken : knowing this, he could not but feel he should have been unwarranted in interfering to prevent it Mr. STANLEY—Although he felt in common with that House that the explanations already given were quite satisfac tory, yet he could not but observe that the discussion of after. dinner toasts was not the most dignified manner in which a Ses sion of unparalleled importance was to begin, but it was doubly out of place at a moment when all Europe was uniting in one expression of loyalty and attachment to the Sovereign. The Right Hon. Baronet (Sir R. Peel) having deprecated any thing like acrimonious discussion, he (Mr. Stanley) had heard with re gret the speeches of some Hon. Members on the other side of the House, the tendency, if not the aim, of which was to pro voke personal rancour, not growing out of any topics in the Ad dress, but dragged into the debate.—(Hear, hear.) Amid the multitude of questions relating to Ireland put to him, there was one by the Noble Lord who had just sat down (Lord Stormont), to which he was glad, as Secretary for Ireland, to be required to give an answer : he was glad to reply to it, because he was always anxious to meet imputations against his own personal con sistency, or the honour of the Government. It had been broadly asserted that the late dissolution was part of a system of collusion, in order to avoid bringing to punishment an indi vidual, who, having been subjected to a State prosecution, had been found guilty. He (Mr. Stanley) pledged his solemn word of honour that Aft After r o tcillarges dissolution, ev verym or more e utterly ous d ou destitutebtsw were r o e f founenter tained by the Law Officers of the Crown in Ireland, whether the Act under which the individual had been convicted having ex pired by the dissolution, it would be strictly legal to have him brought tip for judgment For himself tie would say, that he was most anxious that Mr. O'Connell should be brought up for judgment, and no pains were spared by the Government to pro cure his punishment. The Law Officers of the Crown' in Ire land, distrusting their own opinions, had obtained the aid of the Attorney and Solicitor General in England, and the result was, that as not a single precedent could be found to support the bring ing of Mr. O'Connell up for judgment under such circumstances, notice was given to him that the prosecution was abandoned. Then it was said that Parliament ought not to have been dis. solved if such would be its effect : but with all his (Mr. Stanley's) i a , d l 1 a l c , k e n m o i ls s i t e s d a g y in , t e h n a t t o p f u i t is t , M n g l e t n h t e s t e o f b t e c a H r r e i b i‘ y i e t in h e be dissolution , areesdpe:ftth hisr w s , l d r e . , O n o , e n , , n e e e l I , — n n. six, or twelve months' imprisonment in to the other, lie could not intogrea t e doubt for a moment which way the ba l ance preponderated. — measure scale. u an h d i e t h h e w p a u s :f e n n y i d e e d n t tion having subsided, the consequences to Mr. O'Connell - were of (Hear.) Besides, the effect having been produced, and the agita still less importance. He was glad to see opposite a Right Hon. Member (Mr. we believe), who having, like others, de. precated person the law lie had himself laid down ; led away , no doubt , by the Dawson, imputations, son like others had offended against torrent of his own eloquence. He had brought some serious charges against the Irish Government, adding that he should be wd been refuted to a tolerable ex tent , but he (Mr. Stanle y ) Right endeavour to give him a bttle more of the happiness the i most happy to hear them satisfact oril y r e f uted. The y had alread ouly Hon. Gentleman so wished to e n j o y . First, he char g ed him (5 r. Stanley) with having exercised an unparal l e led influence in the late election for Dublin, by me naces to those who ' voted, or to those who refused to vote, or by dismissal from office.He (Mr. Stanley) would take upon himself to say, that in no single in. stance, either in Dublin, or in Ireland generally, within the m e influence as that which had just occurred.—(Much cheering, and cries of " Oh, oh I) He called upon one H on. Member in par ticular,who so loudly vociferated " Oh, oh!" to get up in his piece, and state an instance in which a person had been dis missed for not acting in unison with the wishes of Govern ment.—(Hear, hear.) He would venture to ,say that no in stance of the kind could be named, and that no threats had ever been used by the present Government to influence voters. So much the contrary had been the fact, that people like the Right Hon. Gentleman, acquainted with the good old times of Irelaed, were astonished at the apathy with which the Government of Ireland looked on during the struggles of their friends.—(Cheering.) To show that the Government had pur posely abstained from the employment of all influence, he would mention that a circular had been privately sent to the Inspectors of the Police (a numerous and well-disciplined corps in Ireland), stating that the men were at perfect liberty to vote for what can didate they pleased ; but that they must abstain from acting as partisans on either side.--(Hear, hear.) He hoped, therefore, that the Right Hon. Gentleman would himself admit that his charges were satisfactorily contradicted.—(Mr. G. Dawson said across the table, " No, no, not satisfactorily.") He did not mean that the contradiction would give the Right Hen. Gentle man satisfaction, probably not ; he would, no doubt, be much better satisfied if the accusation had been at once admitted ; but although the Right lion. Gentleman might not be satisfied, he (Mr. Stanley) trusted that the House would be convinced.-- (Hear.) The Right Hon. Gentleman next adverted to what had been said on the subject of distress in Ireland and as serted, that before the subject was brought forward in Parliament, Government had sent relief to the county of Mayo in the shape of provisions, so as to supply the wants of the starving people at a moderate price, and to keep down the exorbitant demands of those who, having :laid in a stock, were anxious to take advan tage of the extremity to which the population was reduced. He was happy to find that these steps had been taken with such ju dicious secrecy that they had escaped the vigilance even of the Right Hon. Gentleman, who fancied that no relief had been afforded until within about the last fortnight. Nothing but the urgency of the necessity could have justified Government in com ing forward with gratuitous aid without the authority of Parlia ment, and the secrecy with which it had proceeded had at least produced this good effect, that it had awakened the charitable sympathies of the wealthier inhabitants of this country. The Speech from the Throne spoke of the cautious deliberation that was necessary upon these subjects ; but the Hon. Member for Louth, with his characteristic impetuosity, had accused Govern. ment of tardiness, and had spoken of the rapidity with which the question of the repeal of the Union was making way. He (Mr. Stanley) agreed with the Hon. Member, that it was necessary to show that the union of Ireland with England was an union H b i e s a h r i ..) g H a e n d, r in t 0 a 0 , , , e tnt s h y e s t n e m e - e fo e r ss t , h ty e e be f n se e in fi t e o s f te l p r s elan for d. e — sti of relief for the poor; but he could not concur with an lion. Member (Mr. Sadler), who was at once for introducing the Poor Laws into Ireland as a panacea for all evils. He was anxious first for time to inquire and deliberate, although he was very far from thinking that such a case of paramount necessity might not be proved as to render some system of local assess ment at least expedient. Such a portentous step could, how ever, only be taken on an alternative of ills, and then not with out the utmost caution. He was not aware that any other topics had been introduced which he was required to notice, and he trusted that the Address would be voted nemine contradicente, as an expression of attachment and loyalty, and as a proof of a determination to follow, during the Session, the advice given from the Throne, of discussing all matters with temper and moderation. As far as the Reform Bill was concerned, it it were to pass, of which lie had no doubt, such a Maw would render it more perfect, more satisfactory to its friends, and more palate. able to its eeemies.---(Much cheering.) Mr. TANLEY.—Although somewhat irregular—(" Spoke, spoke. ")eahe had felt assured, until he heard those explanations, that a member of the Government uponetethirli such imputation had been cast Would be allowed a fair thpugh a brief hearing-- gaee credit to snch general, vague, and un eCheers.) The Hon Baronet had been lOudly encouraged even trespass y s e iiht a iersei l fnip t ie i nol o s ire et tbdse whose standints: in Parliament ought to have made them ey on the patience of the House while he stated his edllre e f, dh f cc L atrig binn a in e g aF t ' o h e e l a :d . ,. ) not i in the Hon. Baronet's be lief stanier) would only the reality of his charges, but in the reality of the charges es.—(Hear, hear.) Upon his honour he knew of no as had been alluded to ; an d, upon hi s h onour nothe believe leve that it could be subst an ti a t e d . —(M uc h cheer ingdhi d p r not and great confusion.) When the lion. Baronet charged the Commander,of the forces in. Dublin with excitin g a ri o t— w hen he rhatieed the rend Chancellor of Ireland with bartering offices in the laW and the ehilfch fee twenty en• thirty totes, it was duo to men filling such great and respon si ble Situations, that the ac cusation should ndt be Merely stated, but proved. The lion. Ba. ronet, howeeer, in the absence of the parties--without notice-- without .preparations—hed made the gravest acc usa ti ons o f t h e grossest aed he (Mr. Stanley) invited an d d eman d e d that they should, if it Weee Passible, be substantiated. He called on the Hon. Member to prove his charge by itidieele a l i nstances and not by general assertions. He promised his best assistance for thet purpose ; and if the Hon. Member failed to accept tile incitation hts now gate him, he would fail in his duty to the House and the cesinlry.---( Hear, hear.) Sir R. BATESON said, lie was not to be deterred ffom his duty by the londaiiil vehement derfunciatiehe of the Right lion. Gentleman-s-(llear)-s-nor; although a plain country gentiernan, to be put down by, his more commanding eloquence. The Bight Hon. Gentlernanhed somewhat misrepresented what he said of the Gallafit Oeeetal, He neier Said thet the Gallant Officer en couraged the riots. He befieted bite to be a distinguished officer, and an honourable and high-minded mate What he slid say was, that one of the General's Aides-de-camp was in the eroSed, dressed in a green coat • and that he patted persons on the back who had been observed most active in creating disturbance-- (46r; aiid We) He had also been misunderstood with respect to what he Said of the bold Chancellor. He had stated what he had heard.---(Hear, hear, and cheese) iie was not disposed to bring down the vengeanceof Government on inclivirlitals bid be selected these things as an independent Member of thatllouse, and he was.fearless of the consequences for himself. Sir p WETHERELL said, that when he looked at the King's tipeeth; beginising as it did with Reform, andending with cholera morbus---(A laugh)-=-with Bele:him, Ireland, and what not in the middle, he saw plainly it was intended to communicate nothing to the people or that House ; and that as it redeemed none of the pledges of Which Ministers bad once been so pro. fuse, so it committed them to no plan or course of proceeding in the operation of the Session.---(Hear.) As to the Bill of which the Noble Lord (Russell) had said so much, lie could tell the Noble Lord, that if it paesed,• it would throw a wet blanket on all those hereditary honours of his house, for which he had so justly taken credit when he introduced the measure to that House. The day that Bill passed would be the commencement of the destruction of all those family distinctions of which the Noble Lord seas so proud ; and although they were told that it went to no more than the removing some of the remnants of feudalism, he could not forget that the same cry was raised before the assemblage of that Convention which, in a neighbouring country, brought the Monarch to the scafibld, and destroyed all its political institutions. As to the Speech, it Contained nothing. It was a mere waste of words and paper, but he could not avoid, at the opening of a new Parliament, reverting to the cause of the dissolution of of the last, and pn testing against the falsehood put forth by some persons that that Parliament had stopped the supplies. He did not mean to say that the Members of the Government committed themselves by saying so, but he knew that they had permitted their agents and friends to give it forth for election purposes, that the Lord Chancellor of England had declared the House of Con - intone stopped the supplies. He was opposed to his Learned Friend the Lord Chancellor, in all plans, political and legal, but still he hoped he might call him friend. He did not mean to say that those who put forth the report he alluded to were in the pay of his Learned Friend and the Government. He knew better than to rouse the genus irritabile of the press. All he would say was, that there was a kind of literary sympathy between them— that they were friendly to the Government; and it w.,s stated by them, that no less a person than the Lord Chancellor had de eland the refractory and indecent conduct of the House of Corn- Mons to have been the cause of the dissolution, although all the world knew, and he believed he could almost prove, that the dis solution was determined on in the Cabinet full twelve hours be fore the event which was called the stoppage of the supplies took place. The First Lord of the Admiralty, when lie was charged with having any participation in this calumnious attack on the Commons, sailed out of port, and offered to defend himself; but he said nettling of others, and he left the Chancellor in a dry dock —(A laugh.) He (Sir C. W.) was ready to prove that in various places the agents of the Government---false friends they must be considered—had gone about stating that the King was ill used by the stoppage of the supplies. Ministers, too, although they did not order the illuminations in the Metropolis, had yet not exercised their power to prevent them, as in such times of ex citement they should have done; and the Lord Mayor, who might be called a kind of political lamplighter---(A laugh)--had the merit of having assisted the progress of the elections, by allowing an opportunity for the expression of an opinion on the conduct of those who were considered unfavourable to Reform. —(Hear, hear.) The people of Holborn and the Tower Ham lets would naturally be arreious to light up in favour of the Reform which. was to give them representatives ; but he thought it would be better if they had caught the fish before they fried them.---(A laugh.) Ile did not say that the Lord Mayor or the Government had acted illegally, but he was sure they had acted improperly in countenancing or encouraging such proceedings in the irritated state of the public mind. The Ho ourable Member then alluded to the riots at Car marthen, Rye, and various other places, and contended that they were got up to favour the Government candidate. As to the assertion, now so commonly bandied about, that those who sit for nomination boroughs were compelled to obey the com mand of the patron, he would merely say, while in his own case he denied it, that no demand from a patron was ever so impera tive as that cuckoo note which was exacted from all the Go_ vernment candidates at the late elections; when they were called to shout for the Bill, the whole Bill, and nothing but the Bill ((Hear, and a laugh. As for himself, he had been called by a Noble Duke, and a Postmaster too (the Duke of Richmond), an agent of another Noble Duke (Newcastle) He denied that it was so. There was no more accomplished gentleman in England both in mind and manner than the Duke of Newcastle, but he was no more his agent than the Noble Lord (Russell) was the agent of the Ministry. As long as their sentiments were the same they acted together, as the Noble Lord acted with the Mi nistry; and when they differed, the connection must be dis solved in the same manner. He trusted, therefore, they woul hear no more of the corrupt boroughmongers ; for he was as little open to that charge as the Solicitor-General, who also sat for one of those boroughs, or the Learned Civilian (Lushington), who had the good fortune to sit for two of them. After some further observations on the charge against the House of Commons, that it had refused the supplies, which, perhaps, after all, was a mere figure of speech of the Chancellor, whose imagination was unquestionably very brilliant, though if he (Sir Charles) possessed it, he could use it more cautiously, he proceeded to say that he was determined to oppose every part of the Bill in every stage, when it came before the House. He maintained the Reform was a delusion. He had thought so before the Parliament wasdissolved, and since the dis solution he had become certain of it. In one place Reform was interpreted to mean the reduction of the Malt fax ; in another, the reduction of the Assessed Taxes; and in a third, the abolition of Tithes. To explain what Reform meant, a dictionary would be necessary ; but it was impossible it could be all that was promised and expected. As for reduction of taxes, those who proposed that, knew that for every tax they took off another must be laid on. Some succedaneum niust be found for every tax abolished; yet there was not one candidate who appeared on the hustings, who had not asserted, or falsely allowed it to be supposed, that he would in that House repeal some one, or allof thesetaxes.---(No, no.) He said, taking the fine distinction which had been drawn by the Right Hon. Baronet (the Member for Cumberland), candidates, not Members ; and there was not a candidate who had not pledged himself to the reduction of taxes, or allowed it to be supposed that he so pledged himself. That was what the people under stood by the Reform. They had demanded the Bill, the whole Bill, and nothing but the Bill; but he would venture to say that the whole Bill and nothing but the Bill would not be brought into the House of Commons. The Hon. Member for Middlesex accused him of want of liberality , because he had opposed the Timber Tax ; but Ministers had themselves condemned that most unjust tax, by withdrawing it, or p ro p osing (which was like w ithdr a wing it) to postpone it for se veral y ears. Of all that famous Budget which the honest , but on th e t p oint, not success ful Chancellor of the Exchequer, had brought forward, not one tax had been retained. And was he to place his confidence in those, as great modellers of the State,. who could not model a Budget ? Were those fit to new-form the State, who did not know how to form a Bud g et ? He thought not, and he should not place his confidence in them. The Hon. and Learned Gentleman concluded by apolo gizing for having addressed the House; but as the Right Hon. Gentlemen opposite had had an opportunity of explaining their opinion, he had also taken the opportunity of expressiong his opinion. Mr. DOMINICK BROWNE referred to the distress which existed in the county of Mayo, and defende.t the Government from the charge of having neglected the sufferings of the people. The Noble Lord at the bead of the Irish Goverument had con tributed largely, and the Noble Earl at the head of the Govern ment in England had lendlyattended to his representations. The present Government was not to blame, for he had heard the Noble Duke, formerly at the head of the Government, say, when it was stated that there was a famine in Ireland, that it was only one of the periodical visitations to which Ireland was exposed. The Government had done right in sending the Commission into the West of Ireland, and he saw nothing to object to in its conduct, though he could have wished that it had made the Ma gistrates of the counties more strictly perform their duty. Major MACN AMARA also bore testimony to the beneficial effects of the Commission. Mr. MAURICE O'CONNELL said that, in Clare, he was happy to say, that at the last Sessions there was no instance of outrage. Colonel EVANS referred to the excitement which existed in the country, and said that in the borough which he represented the gentleman who had long busied himself by taking the rights of the freemen into his own hands, and nominating the Mem ber, had brought down a coach-load of hired boxers to keep the peace ; and he wished to know if that was not a means of pro voking excitement among the people. The motion was then put, and it was agreed to, neminc eon tradicente, that an Address should be presented to his Majesty, and a Committee appointed to prepare the same. IFRICES OF STOCKS THIS Bank Stock - 3 per Cent. Red. 82 1 ,6 1% 3 per Cent. Cons. 3Y, per Cent. • 89;4 Ditto Red 8 4%74 % New 3%per Cent. shut 3 per Cent Ann. 1726 .... 4 per Cent. 15.126 9874 Bank Long Ann to expire Jan. 5, 186P...16 13-16 15-16 Oct. 10, 1859 16% Jan. 5, 1860 - Jan. 5, ISS9 - April 5, 1880.... ......... - Jan. 5, 1870 - THIS DAT AT ONE O'CLOCK. (Neapolitan ;Peruvian Bonds -- )Portuguese Bonds Prussian, Old Ditto, New Russian 9'2 1% Spanish, 1821 1892 -- French Rentes, sp. c. -- • Exchange —C• 3 per cent —f. • Exchange —f. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. Lord ALTHORP gave notice that he should on Thursday, as we understood, move the usual regulations for the business of the House. Mr. HUMS, gave notice that he should on Tuesday, move for a Select Committee to inquire into the office of King's Printer. After some conversation on the subject of Election Petitions, it was understood, as there, according to Lord Althor_s state ment, was likely to be a long summer Session, that Election Petitions should be taken immediately into consideration. On the motion of Mr. GOULBU AN, a return was ordered of all the parishes in England and Wales that had made a commu tation for their tithes. At Half-past One o'clock the House adjourned till this day. THE CHOLERA.—Some vague rumours of the cholera morbus in our city, have been in circulation during the last two or three days, but we are unable to trace them to any authentic source. We think it our duty to copy the following statement on this subject, which we find in the last Comet, but we do not vouch for its authenticity :—On Thursday a man named MasoN, belonging to some Scotch vessel which had lately arrived in Dublin from Liverpool, was violently attacked with the precise symptoms given of the Indian cholera by the Russian physicians. At first his spasms were hidious—dreadful cramps in the extremities succeeded, and eventually a total prostration of strength, accompanied by the usual effects of cholera. When roused from a state of insensibility or apparent death his screams from the effects of the cramps were agonising. D r . s i , ANA „ AN, of York.street, has been in attendance on MASON at the lodging house where he stopped, on Sir J. RooEasoN's quay, and we un derstand has strong hopes of bringing his patient safely through the disorder. A woman also in an adjacent house appeared to be severely attacked; and the general impression in the neighbourhood seemed to be that the real Indian cholera had got into that quarter of the city. We have yet some hopes that equally yripotietsetnot a w s it e h ns fa e m o i f n d e a i r n ig d e e r s a o r l r a d tin th g e ott a r d s o h p o t r io e n s. o: lA s S u o c , h these apprehensions may prove unfounded : indeed, it will not be amiss if the terror created by the present alarm, awaken the precautionary measures as may avert from this island another vering....Dublin Morning Register. Pei rivc e LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, JUNE 22, 1831. His MAIESTY'S Speech has had the happy and unusual effect of conediatin?, all parties. The House of Lords, as we anticipated, did not venture on an amendment, though they were far from deficient in a display of factious inter f recce. As reg.,,,rds the speech, it is satisfactory in all its domestic allusions, and though with reference to f weign matters, it gives no direct assurance of an interfer,nce in behalf of the Poles, yet by its using the term " contest," instead of " insurrec tion," with respect to the war between ta Poles and Russians, it is not unreasonable to infer that his MaaEsTY's Ministers look on the war as a perfectly legitimate one be tween the two Powers. Such being the case, we have little doubt that they will eventually interfere. The House of Peers went up this morning to present the Address to his MAJasry, in answer to his gracious Sperch. By the Hamburg Reporter, of the 18th instant, we have the official confirmation of the death of Field Mar shal Count ThEnvrsc , r, which took place on. the 10th, from cholera. This cannot fail to have a beneficial effect on the state of aff.iire FROM THE RUSSIAN HEAD-QUARTERS AT K LEG ZEWO, JUNE 10.--I am under the painful necessity of an nouncing to you, that the Imperial Russian Commander.in- Chief, General Field-Marshal Count Diebitsch Sabalkansky, suddenly died this day, at half-past one o'clock, at his head quarters at Kleczewo, near Pultusk. Until his sudden attach he had been in perfect health, and on the preceding day had been remarkably cheerful .at table, when suddenly, a t two o'clock this morning, he was attacked by the destructive ma lady, which bore the unquestionable symptoms of cholera; the violent attacks of sickness overcame his powerful constitution, after a painful struggle, and with manly confidence and tran quil resignation he closed his brilliant and active career. The army mourns in him a distinguished General and a kind guide, who interested himself for all those under his command, treated his conquered foe with a noble feeling peculiar to him self, and sought to lighten the heavy burdens of war to the in habitants of those districts whither his glorious career con ducted him. His afflicting death appears to afford an additional proof that the above named malady depends more upon the state of the at mosphere and individual disposition than upon contagion, for hitherto not a single case of 'sickness had manifested itself at head-quarters. The General of Infantry, Count Toll, instantly assumed the command of the army. BERLIN, JUNE 14.---According to the last accounts the head quarters of Cciunt Diebitsch were at Pultusk on the 9th instant. A sufficient number of troops had been concentrated about Wilna, and a satisfactory and speedy result was expected trout the vigorous measures adopted to defeat the attempts of the Poles against the Russian provinces. FRONTIERS OF LITHUANIA, JUNE 7.---A private letter from Riga, dated June 6, says, " The accounts given in foreign Journals of vigorous measures against the insurgents are wholli unfounded. Baron Pahlen has hitherto employed only measure' of persuasion, has every where dispersed the bands of insurgent`. that he suet with, and has every where been receive d with unfeigned joy by the more reasonable part of the inhabi tants, who desire nothing more ardently than -the restoration of tranquillity. Hitherto only a single Jew, who was found to be a spy, has been hanged at-Mitau. Our troops are in Schawl , Roscienna, Ponioni, and several small towns, and are in corn', munication with each other ; troops, or rather single bands 9+ insurgents, infest the open country, and plunder every thing that tempts their insatiable rapacity. BRUNSWICK, JUNE 15.—A proclamation has been issued in the name of his Highness Duke William, convoking an assembly of the States of the Duchy to meet at Brunswick on the 30th of September. STOCKHOLM, JuNE 10.—The King.has been so much better since the 7th, that no more bulletins have been issued. It is thought his Majesty will go to his country seat Itosenburg as soon as the weather is warmer. Of H li u l ig E . N ry N h A av , e J s U e N nt E a 9 d 7 r T es w s ' e e s n i t t y: t t h h e ree r‘ cf t u in nt l ieLo g f . th u c e k th in t g h ti c o or ro peror, in favour of the Poles. They deplore the. unjust War waged against a nation with which they are so closely allied , which saved Vienna from the Turks, and preserved the throne of the house of Hungary. They allege the necessity of setting bounds to the constantly increasing power of the Northern Giant, and beg his Majesty to consult with them to the Assembly of the States already announced, • respecting the state of the Poles, to whom the Imperial Family and their country are so highly indebted, and who are now fighting with incomparable valour, but with disproportioned threes. They also beg th a t the prohibition to export arms, ammo' nition, and scythes, may be revoked. HAMBURG, JUNE 17. —BO RSEN.II A LLE.—The supply .of Wheat during the week has been very limited, and very We bought for exportation. During the first seven days of June 194 cargoes of corn passed the Sound, 80 bound for British' ports. Weight Rix dollars. Silesian Wheat 120 to 125 140 to 165 A nhalt, white ll5 to 12 4 l2l to 150 red 117 to 127 120 to 150 'Mecklenburg!' to -- 110 to 135 Dantzic Rye ll6 to 120 l6 to Upland 114 to 118 lit to 100 Mecklenburgh —to-- 90 to 913., During the week 498 lasts of Wheat have been imported, `2 . -' exported, and there remains stock on hand 3,500 lasts. Very little doing in the money market. End of June. Anglo-Danish Loan, 3 per cent Anglo-Russian Loan Hamburg-Russian Loan Polish Bonds 8.96 Austrian Bank Shares 1039 Ditto Metalliques New Austrian 5 per cent. The efforts of the public authorities in Dantzic to suppress the cholera, having proved ineffectual, the Prussian Governmen t have ordered a cordon to be drawn round the city. A part of the adjoining country will be included within the cordon, by wide!' means the population of the city will not be altogether cooped within its walls, and the population of the adjoining country' who depend for the sale of their produceon the towns-people, viii . not be zit once deprived of their bread. In Riga, the total number of persons attacked by cholera the 6th, was about 1,300, of whom about 700 had died. A Supplement to the London Gazette of last night contains a proclamation respecting the precautions to b e used against the cholera. A Board of Health has alb' ) been established. Letters from Bahia of the 23d April bring favourable ac,ounts; they have acknowledged the GovernMent , Rio Janeiro. A new Governor and President has arrive(' there from Rio, who immediately went on board the ship s in which the Portuguese were embarked, telling them ther might reland, and that they would be safe with their pro' perty. The letters from Hamburg state that Genera l SACKEN had blown out his brains. Madras Gazelles to the 17th of re_bruary have be' received at the North and South American Coffee-hour' They do not communicate any information of importance• The Quebec Gazette gives the comparative statemen t of the arrivals of tonnage, seamen, ald setters, to th e 20th May, of the past and present yeas• :-1830, vesseler 25 ; tonnage, 5,183; settlers, 155.-1831, ves,eht, 172 tonnage, 48,485 ; settlers, 5,726. THE FUNDS.-(THIS DAY.) CITY, TWELVE O'CLOCK. We have received the Hamburg Reporter of the 17th Jun e ' which contains the account of the death of Marshal Diebitsch• Quebec Papers to the 19th, and Montreal to the 20th Ma" el, have been received at the North and South American Coate{ `not less than t wen ty-thriCi, house, but they do not contain any news. The Quebec paP e f states that Lord Aylmer, with his lady, embarked on a tour to a considerable time to the district of Montreal and Soril. ha S y e e v ad er d al re p ss r e o d vi a n ni ce e s m o o6 of altoHungarythe Emperor of Austria they express the warmest interest in the success of ' in wh the rolii' nation, and call upon his Majesty to interfere in their behalf. THE FUNDS. Contrary to the general expectation, the Address last night i 0 the House of Lords to his Majesty went off without a divisio n, which has given great satisfaction to the citizens. Consit which le ft oaf yesterday at 8 3 for the kccount, opened at th e same price, with little doing. HALF-PAST ONE. _I Up to the present hour little or nothin gis doing in the CoT market. Consols have fluctuated in the course of the mornto:, from 83N down to 8.274. For the account, at present, the , are 83 to 83!4. The private letters from Hamburg also mention that the/ ag afraid that disturban ces w i ll take place in Russia. The do'„ at Diebitsch will no doubt aid the cause of the Poles. It is st;', gular that Diebitsch should be the only person at head-quarte r who died by the cholera. Consols, 83i THREE 0' CL 0 C.K. No Weekly Publication can give the Debate s so full as the Atlas, it being the hirgrst paper printe d ' Orders received by the Newsmen. PRINTED AND PUBLI3IIE I) DV M U RDO YOUNti, Al' 11- SUN OPTIC H, 1 12, Si HAND, LONDON. ROYAL THE Admission (fra BRITIS T" ' Works o DUTCH, FR] be OPENED and continue o, in the Evening EAST ] THE CI UNITE ENGLAND, hereby give not That the Col before WE DN ES in writing, seal to OCCUPY SER A blank fora at the Shippin, that offic e befiU 9th June instg NOTICE q Hence Ping, determine the Tonnage l thdrine Docks Cape of Good I redured to Six for discharging South America the discharge o Company conti of the vessels. The Six We free use of the I future take effi 'W'hilst the Col lying in the St, the privilege of tunes, whether By ord St. Katharin 21 et of. DAY AT ONI O'CLOCK. eRICEs OF FOREIGN FUNDS Au.vr,an Bonds Brazilian Bonds Bqenos Ayres B Chilian Bond , I:ohnnbian Bonus Oitto, 1824 , 62% Greek Bonds Oitto, 1825 Guatimala ',lexicon Bonds 18°, FOREIGN EXCHANGES ON LONDON. HAMBURG, JUNE 17.-13. SN.--Two months, 13. VA. BERLIN, JUNE I#. —Three months, 0. 20%. STocKtiot,t, JuE 10.—Ninety days, 13. 10. PEFERSEURGII, JUNE 3.-40:p4. New 5 per Cent. ----, India Stock . shut Ditto Bonds par 2 put. South Sea Stock — s Ol e d w A D n i n tt u o it . i . es --.....__ 3 per Cent. Ann. 1751 Ex Bills, £l,OOO ll 12 pm. Ditto... . ....50( 1 Ditto Small Ditto Commercial. —pm. I)it to Advertised — pm. Bank for Account v . ---0 India for Account. 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