The Sun. — London, England, 1831-09-23 00:00:00

POLAND. VOFF OF THE LAST OFFICIAL LETTER ADDRESSED TO sEuastlitYl BY THE TOLISII ENVOYS AT PARIS. " The undersigned had the honour of presenting to his Excellency the Minister for Foreign Affairs an official paper dmed the 3d instant; in which, in pursuance of the order on the part of their Government, after having made a true and succinct expose of all that they were to do in the event of an unsuccessful application to the French Ca binet, they addressed themselves to his Excellency again, reresting to, know what aid and assistance the French Cabinet believ e d it se lf d ec id e dl y ena bl e d to afford the Po • Usti cause, and in the course of what time and at 'what pe riod such aid and assistance could be given, The under signed added at the end of their otfici - al paper the trsti-- mony of the assured hope which, they entertait. Mat the French Ministry, considering the urgency of tic moment and the true interests a France, %yodel no longer hesitate to give a favourable answer, an .one conformable to the wishes of the French nat.iots s and they concluckd 'by the declaration that if, contrary to all expecte.tinit, his Excel lency the Minister for Foreign Affairs was not disposed either to premise them immediate aid or to fix the period of it, that Chen the undersicncd would be constraincl by the orders of their Government to consider their tnit.:A n , as terminated, and to occupy thetnselvy no further with it, except to state in their own justification what they:had done in the course of their mission. " A week passed from thez. time of sen(F.ng the eanve tnentintsed official paper, to which the un'. 3 ‘Qrsigned thought it their duty to .add is second, dated th t , h instant, reld cite to the intelligence published i7r.th-e lournals respecting the events which took place at Warsaw on the lath ttrid 16th of August. The time passed without the feast sign of interest on the part of the French Government that could tend to dictate to the undersigned how to shape their ulterior conduct in conformity with the statements in their official paper of the 3d. At leag,th they received yister day by post direct communications from Warsaw. These communications, dated the 26th of August-, confirm the e_stablishment of a new lexal Government, and they con tinue to the undersigned the power s with which they were furnished, and in no respect change the requests which the undersigned .have felt it their duty to address to the French Cabinet in tl'aeir official papers of the 3d and 4th instant. " To enable his Excellency to judge of the nature of the facts set forth in these eemmunications, and of the present state of affrirs in Poland, the undersigned have the honour to address to hint sat:joined copies of the circular dispatch of the National Government, previous to the lath August, prepared on the eve of the late events at Wartatv—,..of the dispatch of the 23d August, drawn up under elae huspices of Prince Czartorraki—of the dispatch of thet4thAugust, signed by the new Minister for F'ore'ign Affairs, M. de Dlut . awski, faith the Decree or the Chambers of the 17th, Augur, changing the form of the Government. These different papers make known the true situation of Poland. I fit is critical, it is surely the necessary result of the total abandonment of that country by the Cabinets of Europe. If it is not yet desperate, it is owing to the miraculous perseverance of the Poles, who. in spite of all the evil, arising from the war, the plague, the wily stratagems of Russia, the hostility of neighbours, and the indiiirrenee of friendly Cabinets—wbo, menaced by all, and supported by aro one, have irrevocably determined to fight to the last ex 'tremity. What effect will this grand and sublime spec tack, unique in its kind., have upon the Cabinet, of Europe? Will it rouse them out of that indifference witb which they have hitherto considered Poland, combating 'sins,le handed against so many enemies, against such an host of evils? If, which we c ingot admit, this indiffer ence should tie prolonged, will it not induce men to thirds that jus't:ce, manifest right, and noble and generous deter mina ions, only lead to reverses and to destruction, whist it is sufficient to be strong to violate all laws, to trample 'ander foot all that is sacred upon earth, is to be certain beforehand of being supported and applauded and success wished for? No, the French Cabinet will not contribut its share to give birth to and to propagate such a despair ine belief, a belief which would sap all the foundations o. morality, and destroy the civil and political ties of society. No, the French Cabinet, which owes every thing to th tlarmder that strikes at the violators of principles, will ;:aeiitate. in acting, to maintain these principles ; it tai l assume the noble initiative in a manner calculated to task. them Inismph ; it will interpose with vigour and dignity . it will induce other friendly Cabinets to adopt the 84171 coarse ; it will impose it upon malevolent Powers ; it wii entripel Russia to bring to general peace and trarquillit that sacrifice which justice and clear right imperiou,l exacts from it ; and it will collect as the price of them generous measures the right of being enabled to sty I hay , caused thote-entrance of a brave n-ition into the Europ-ai family—.l have satintied French honour—and I have con solidat, d for France and for the world the reign of order and of liberty. " So noble and elevated an object is certainly not be - neath the attention, nor is it beyond the means of th French Cabinet. Thus the undersigned still presery the hope that his Excellency the Minister of Foreign - 4 *.ffitirs will make known to them his decision on the sir , - sect of the requests which by order of their Governmeir they had the honour to address to him in their official papers of the 3 , land 4th inst. Seeing the urgency of the moment, and the cry of distress which come* from the banks of the Vistula. they reckon on a powerful and effec tual answer. Should the French Cabinet, nevertheless not deem it proper to give to the undersigned the answer so much desired, they will be eager to present themselves at the Hotel of the Ministry, to receive the verbal overtures which his Excellency Count Seba,tiani may wish to make to them. The nature of the communications which they may receive will direct their future conduct, conformably to the orders of their Government. "Paris, Sept. 15." ~ KNAZIEWICZ, ~ L. PLATER." FRENCH PAPERS. CHAMBER OF DEPUTIES-SErr. 19. Berenger brought tap the Report of the Committee on the Peer age, which has been already adverted to. The form of the 23d article of the Charter, as it is proposed to be altered in Committee, is as follows : " The nomination of the Members of the Chamber of Peers is vested in the King. " No persons can be raised to th e dignity of Peers except—. "The President of the Chamber of Deputies and other Legislative Assemblies. " Deputies having; been elected three times, or having sat six yeais in the Chamber. " Marshals and Admirals of France. " Lieutenant-Generals and Vice-Admirals of the land and sea forces. " Cabinet Ministers. '• Ambassadors, after three years' service. " Counsellors of State, after ten years' service. " Prefects of Departments and Maritime Prefects, after ten ye ;rs' service. " Governors of Colonies, after five years' service. " Members of the Elective General Councils, after three elections to the Presidency. " Mayors of towns containing 80,000 inhabitants and upwards, chosen from the Elective Municipal Councils, after five yearn' service. " Presidents of Courts of Cassation and the Court of Accounts. " Procureurs-General attached to either of the above Courts, after five years' service in that capacity. " Counsellors of the Court of Cassation, and Chief. Counsellors of the Court of Accounts, after five years' service. " First Presidents of the Royal Courts, after having sat five years in those Courts as Magistrates. " Procureurs-General of those Court, after ten years' eervice• " lembers of the four Academies of the Institute. " Citizens who, by a law, and on account of eminent services, shall have been expressly decreed to be entitled to a national recompense. " Landed and other proprietors, heads of manufactories, and commercial and banking establishments, paying 5,000 francs per annum direct taxes for five years. " These qualifications for admission inn the Peerage way be modified by a future law. " The ordonnance of nomination shall state the qualifi. cation iu virtue of which each Peer is chosen. The number of Peers is unlimited. The dignity i s conferred for life, and is not transmissible by right of in. beritance. Th e P eers are to takeright amongst each oth er according to seniorityof nomination." This Report was ordered to be taken into considera tion immediately atter the discussion of the Budget for 1831. M. Mauguin, in rising to demandte is explanations of Mi nisters, said when a voice from sideheofd to speakthe Chamber on on which I am in t h e habit of Sitting foreign affair s, it is generally supposed to he for th pose of calling for war. In the last session 1 myser P t often spoke in that sense. But all political question s are subject to change. At that time we had allies to defend, and the offensive might have been beneficial to us. It is no longer Sn ; all is changed, and we stand alone in Europe. The offensive has no longer an object ; ev , ry thing is resolved, and we shall only make war when it shall be brought to us. For that reason I do not call for war; I demand an account from Ministers of their political conduct. It is !) not a month since, on the discussion of the address, your made known to Ministers your solicitude for Poland. Po land has perished ; and I am desirous of knowiikg whether that grievous loss is the work of the Ministry, through its weakness or its policy. I p.. r awaits that whenever Pe land has been inenGlted, Ministers never failed to de' i.are that to undertake its defence would be dli'•• t - leatts of bring , ing off a general war. At - a dis''..ance of 400 leagues from its frontiers, and geperaled from it by Germany, What could we do f:!la it: I know not how the King's. Mini at&l cmP::ti address to us such questions. 1 .- ou had various t ":`sans of assisting Polane, *C,ratitude, which would have opened to it !:-. communication through Prussia, would hasve VHsililed the courage of the Poles. ' l ._"oti . cortsi intervene between P o l an d and P.estia as media tors ; could you not have sent sera - et assistance in the shape of money and arms? And, why secret assistance? Had you not kieets'? 'Aid you not the Baltic and the J'llaea Set l'-:-=(.514.,s of dissent.) Wh y th ese mar t s o f 'Mere ,l ' ..• thility? When the insurrection broke . tut in all the Rus sian provinces, did they no prissess sea - ports? You would thus have aided 1:11;. , , insurrection, doubled she f,, see of the Poles, arid taved Warsaw. If she 1 ..1.as tailen, is it not beeauae Russia found assistan'ae, subsidies, provisions, i i - inel arms in Prussia? And the army of Paskewitsch, trusting to that afliance, and obtaining from it additi'. ( ..aal force, has lasen enabled to enter Warsaw, and tot been forced to retreat. Could not an amstot'.tt tave been de , alluded from Prussia of that pe t ..6.',)iolits neutrality ? Could she not have been askssi 5 n declare her sentiments openly ? You say that to haae done this would have been the coma tnenceurant of a general war ; but we ask you vhat ,- ou hasas done with regard to Belgium, tht t n:y instance in which you have lied the latsgeas-e worthy a great nation? Had you ensploytak the 'same language for Poland, you would have OA - at-tett a like effect, and Poland would still have toti - eteMl s But it was not alone for Poland that you . otigitt to have complained of Prussia; your despatches have been intercepted, and Frenchmen going thither have been arrested. You suffered this without ad vantage to yourselvs, ntit the question is, not whe ther the 'Ministry ought to have assisted Poland ; we wish to know tvhetber they have not manifested an intention to injure her. Li fact, instead of look ing for ehemies to Russia, the Ambassador who endea vored to give us Turkey for an ally has been resalled. It is relat e d th a t on th e 23d o f J une t h e F renc h - Ministry made insidious promises to Poland. It was only asked that she would not engage in a general battle. The Ge neral waited) and Poland fell. What matters it ? Order reigesin Warsaw !—(Sensation.) Reply, Ministers! Is it you who recommended to them not to try the chance of a combat? What language have you held? Ah ! if you have not assisted them against the arms of their enemies, at least preserve them from the clemency of the conqueror. (Renewed fransation•) What is to become of Poland? Is she to be re-united to the Russian empire ? Will she pre serve the independence assured to her by the treaties of 1815. This is a grave question, which will be agitated between Prussia and Austria especially, and upon which these two Powers will be disposed to cede to the preten sions of Russia. (The Hon. Deputy here spoke of the negociation relative to Belgium, and entered into a detail of facts already known.) Thum, continued he, after having exhausted all the views suitable to Belgium and to France, i Prince was at length chosen of the House of England. It is thus inscribed in all the Royal Almanacks. It was also decided that Belgium should be a neutral State, that is, that it should not form an alliance with any of the Great Powers. If we are attacked, you know what a neutral power is from the example of Switzerland.—(Hear, he ,r.) We cannot sign a treaty of alliance with Belgium, without its being a declaration of war with all Europe. Thus, to ,void a war, conditions have been consented to worse than toy that could have been imposed upon us after the mos• disastrous defeat. Under these circumstances it was, that cue invasion by Holland, so unexp'ctedly, as it appears, vas made. The Government found itself embarrassed. Ought we to march to the succour of Belgium ? Our - coops once entered, ought they afterwards to be with !sawn? These were serious questions. The Nlinister olopted a system, but this system, once decided upon, •oidd have b-en maintained, for the honour and the in -rests of the nation are compromis al by sudden and easy Fames of system. Scarcely had our troops arrived in Hpium when the pride of the British Government took alarm, and demanded how we could dare enter that count, y old sutler a single soldier to remai❑ within it. To avo.d tne opposition of England, Kine Leopold is made to write is a letter, requiring that 12,000 men may he left.— .. 'Smiles of inert fulity ) lam pleased at seeing that smile opon the countenances of Ministers; they have no doubt rorgotten that this issertion was made in the English Par liament, and was not denied. It was made by the Duke •if Wellington, the late General of the Holy Aliance, who declared in the most positive manner that the letter had been required, but, notwithstandin 4 this weaknes., the French troops would L.--withdrawn. In pursuance of the letter of Leopold, it was inserted in the Moniteur that our 12,000 men would pass the winter in Belgium. British pride became indignant. What was the consequence? Toe troops were withdrawn. Ministers ought to be able to foresee the consequences of their own actions. They ought not to receive orders from any one. Here the Honourable Deputy proceeded to show that no reliance could be placed upon the good dispositions of the other Powers. " Would you know," said he, " why Holland commenced her proceedings without wai•iug for the rest of Europe ? Because a movement was about to tweak out at Brussels—because the Carlists were about to move in France, and because a Prussian corps was ready t o support that movement of the Carlists.—(Hear, hear.) The Government ought to lay before us the defensive state of France. Well : I will declare that our army is not what it ought to be. I ask why the proposed purchases of horses have not been completed ? I ask why two or three hundred battalions of National Guards remain with out being organised ? I ask why our army is scattered about the country instead of being assembled together, so that the Generals and officers may become known to each other ? Would you know what is the conditio❑ in which our most important frontiers at Besancon and Marseilles are left ? We have only thirteen regiments of infantry and four of cavalry.—(Hear, hear, hear.) (A Member said, But that is something.') Yes (con tinued M. Mauguin), that is something ; but have you considered the e xtent of that frontier, Besancon, Dijon, Lyons, Marseilles, Perpignan ? and yet there are only seventeen regiments. This is said to be something. But what are the effective numbers of these regiments? It is sufficient, however, to know that the four regiments of cavalry are so distant from each other, that it would take twenty days to unite them, and yet you must he aware that Lyons, Marseilles, and Perpignan are the principal points in the departments in which is seated the centre of the intrigues and efforts of our enemies. Austria is but is short distance from Lyons or Marseilles, she might, there fore, easily cut off part of our provinces, and you would have nothing to oppose to her marching 200,000 men into France. Piedmont has now a nominal force of 100,000 men, which was but 80,000, and the King has effected a loan. Austria might, in this direction, send in upon us 150,000 men. You see, therefore, it is not aggressive war I dein ind, but only sufficient defence. In Italy and Spain, in 1823, a party declared that we should have no war, and yet those countries were invaded. The same has been renewed in Belgium. Last year we had Italy, Poland, and Belgium for our allies, hut now we gaud alone, while the English aristocracy is endeavouring to foment plots against us. The Government must at length awake or we shall be forced to take other means." The Chamber was greatly agitated after this speech. The Minister for Foreign Affairs, in rising to reply, said, 46 It is not without deep emotion that I appear at this tri bune, if I speak with grief of the disasters cf Poland, I shall be accused of being wanting to the truth ; and if I render an account of facts with simplicity, I shall be charged with dryness. I stn about to lay before you the documents and the facts. Vague accusations are .out of the question, and we must have the decision of the Cham ber. If Ministers are culpable, you have the terrible right of impeachment ;_ if they are unskilful, the way to the throne is open before you—pronounce. Last year, as at present, France was divided between two systems —peace and war. We chose peace, and you will see whether we did well or not. The revolution of July created a powerful sensation in Europe. In Russia it was received with dis satisfaction ; but this dissatisfaction soon diminished.— (Hear.) Shortly after the revolution is Belgium broke out. The kingdom of the Netherlands had been set up against France, and fortresses had been erected there with the money of all the Powers. I speak of a time of adversity and of painful events which will not be renewed if France be prudent.—( Agitation.) No one has more respect than myself for France, or knows her forces better. I have long served in her army, and only quitted a military career when there were no more enemies to combat." The Mi nister then recapitulated the early events in Belgium and Poland, and the first diplomatic relations of France with the divers States of Europe. The language of the other Go vernments was firm and conciliatory. But the Government will never forget that Poland was a State of 3,000,000 of men without ports, without mountains, and without means of defence. Overtures nevertheless were made at St. Pe tersburgh. The Emperor of Russia was made to feel that there were two questions in that of Poland, one a Russian question, and th e oth e r a E uropean one. The Cabinet ' of St. Petersburgh promised that th e ki ngdom of Poland should be preserved. This promise has been lately e rated. All the Great Powers of Europ e are in a-ccorrti upon This question. Here Gen. Sebastiani read the follow ing despatches, to prove that the Government has claimed the strict execution of the treaties of Vienna, upon the king dom of Poland, and that in this respect the aloft positive assurances have been given by Russia. The first; dated Bt. Petersburgh, Aug. 31, say— " The Ambassidor his Already stated to your Excel lency with whsr.":. moieraiion the Russian Cabinet had viewed th entrance of the French into Belgitho. it was natural to see the inhabitants of this capital ekprest theft plea,ure at the first .news .of the sitccest obtained by the Dutch army over the Eeigiaus. This predilection of the inha bqatts of St. Petersburgh for an army commanded by the brother-in-law of the Emperor, is easily acce.unted for. The retreat of the Dutch before yoUr ra - my ith. creases the hope of Veni3ving-, by degOciiiiionit, difficulties which Might have become fatal to the iseace of Europe. Your Excellency must haVe already been acquainted with the operation's of the Russian army, related in the annexed hnlletins. Faithful to the instructions which have been given to me by his Majesty's Ministers, I shall continue to claim the strict execution of the treaties in fa- your of Poland. The Puke de Mortemart has received the most positive roinises on this point, and, like him, ehel Liways represent how much it will be in the interest Of Russia, and that of justice, to fulfil these promises re. The following document ie dated September t?, : " The Chamber ; in expressing in the name of France the assurance that the nationality of Poland should be se cured to that heroic people, intimates a wish which i s founded on the formal and reiterated promises of the Em peror. The Duke de Mortetn at has taken with him on this subject the most positive assurances. In his confe• rences with the Emperor and M. .le Nesselrode he never expressed the least doubt of the promises tieing about to be realized. These promises, moreover, are guaranteed by that memorable expression, that the word of a Sovereign should be inviolable as the decrees of Providence.—(Cheers from the Centres.) These are our principles. In the meantime, I have had an interview with M. de Nesselrode to remind him of the assurances of the Prussian Govern ment, and to induce him to use all his efforts in favour of the Pole., so as to effect their independence, as guaranteed by existing treaties. He confirms the repeated assurances, and causes the King to continue in his dispositions on this subject. He stated to me that there was every reason to trust to them, as the Emperor Nicholas had expressed his positive intention to concur with Prussia and England, as interested Powers, in the measures to be taken for the pa cification of Poland." " You see, gentlemen," continued the Minister, " that the policy of France was candid. The Government did not stop there, but offered its mediation.—(Hear.) It bad been asserted that we promised to acknowledge Poland. This is untrue. It has even been asserted that we coun selled Poland to abandon the offensive, and thus caused the brave Polish army to lose the advantages it had obtained. This is equally false." To support these denials, the Mi nister read a report made to the Diet. " Our system," said he, " was a system of peace. We thought, and we still think, it consistent with the true interests of France ; and our instructions to all our Ambassadors have been in conformity with it. Our Ambassador in Turkey learned that a misunderstanding existed between Austria and France, and might also - break out between France and Russia. He immediately delivered a ❑ote to the Divan, calling upo❑ Turkey to take up arms, and avenge the wrongs she had sustained. Turkey, in alarm at the com munication, the next day placed the note in the hands of the representatives of all the other Powers. He had spok e n, it must be confessed, to a lifeless body. The Hon. Member lid confessed that all political measures depended upon circumstances, and ought not the Ambassador to have made himself acquainted with what it was in the power of the Turk to do before he delivered his note ? The note, gentlemen, was dated on the 25th, on the 26th it was in the hands of all the Arrit , ass ldors ; and in the even ing of that day it was sent off to each of their Cabinets. The French Government was soon made acquainted with it, but the Ambassador had sent two subsequent despatches, dated the 30th and 31st, without making any mention of The French Governinetv, therrfure, trtate 1 it as a fable, nor doubting that, if it had actually existed, the Ambas>ador could not have failed to inform them of it. In a few flays afterward., however, they learnt that it was real. The recall of the Ambassador was not re quired by any of the Powers ; hut France conceived that her Ambassadors were bound to follow their instruc- tions.—( Hear, hear.) God forbid that any attempt should he made to tarnish the honour of a brave, en lightened, and experienced officer. He was deceived, and who might not be deceived when at such a distance? This, however, was not a sufficient excuse to the Cabinet, which did that which it was their duty to do.—(Hear.) The Mini-ter then argued that the acknowledgement of Poland would have led to no favourable result. It would merely have compromised us without utility. The inter. vention of Prussia in the affairs of Poland is comp] lined of, but at the same time it is asked why we did not inter vene ? Prussia maintained her neutrality, bat only in preventing succour being conveyed to the Poles across!; her territory. General Seoastiani next entered into an ex planation upon the affairs of Belgium. It bad been er roneously stated that the Government hindered that country from constituting itself a republic or giving itself w France. The Belgians exercised their independence. The accusation of having delivered up Belgium to an English Prince was equally unfounded. To ascertain what influence prevailed in Belgium, it would suffice to read the English journals, and the speeches of King Leopold. From these, it appeared clearly that it Waal France that exerted influence. As to the Duke de Ne mours, he was elected in spite of the French Cabinet. The then President of the Council (M. Lafitte) will attest this. His election was refused to avoid a war for mete family interests.—(Cheers.) The Minis ter replied also to the questions with respect to Holland and the neutrality of Belgium. Good faith had in duced them to send troops into Belgium to ensure its in dependence, and, acting with the same good faith, those troops had been withdrawn—hut the dictates of no one had been yielded to. It had been asked what were the assurances of peace? They were founded upon the most positive promises of disarmament, which was so much in the interest of France.—(Hear, hear.) It had ben said that the Austrian army was within five days' march of Lyons, whereas it was twenty days' march from thence. The Austrian army, instead of being 200,000 strong, consisted only of 80,000 men, and Sardinia had no more than 70,000. The new levy had been disbanded. Thus the French Cabinet had not only done all that was re quired for the maintenance of the honour of the country, but at the same time to keep up its own influence.—(This speech was received with loud and repeated cheers.) M. Prunelle rose to refute the imputation thrown upon the city of Lyons, as being the focus of a n ounter-revolu_ tion, and declared that, until that Hon. Member proved the truth of his assertion, he should consider it as a ca lumny against the most patriotic town in France. M. Alauguin the❑ replied with considerable.energy'and warmth, and demanded that an inquiry should be instituted into the charge which was denied by M. Prunelle. The President of the Council—We should have ken glad if M. Mauguin had brought forward on Saturday the questions which he has now put, for probably we should have been spared the agitation prevailing in the c (Interruption.) Allow me but a few minutes' silence. France and all Europe should hear the defence as well as the accusation. It may be seen that France has done all that was in her power to do to indulge her feelings in fa your of Poland. I entreat the Chamber to go through the whole of the accusations to-day. Before the cry of 66 Vive la Pologne !" every true citizen will cry 46 Vive le Roi!" " Vice la France !" Several Members immediately repeated " Vive le Roi Vive Is France !" M. Mauguin—lt has been said that if these explana tions had been required on Saturday, the disturbances would not have taken place. I regret them extremely. No one can blame more than I do those who go into public places to demand that justice which they ought only to seek through the laws. M. Dupin—l call upon the Hon. Deputy to explain the sense in which he uses the word justioe. • M. Mauguin_That word does nut, perhaps, express my meaning correctly, I mean to say that no one can blame more than I do those who by seditious cries in the public places, demand that which they ought to seek only from, the Government. I know nothing that can do a greater injury to the cause of the revolution of July than publii: riots, and perhaps there may be some truth in the ac cusation that thy have been excited by certain authorities. The President of the Council, with warmth, replied, when it is insinuated that riots are promoted by the Go vernment, we in our turn have a right to demand an ex planation. M. Mauguin—l never assert a fact without being able to prove it.—(" Prove, prove !") The Chamber shall have the proof if it will order an inquiry. In several of these riots the agency of the police have been tr a ced.-- (Redoubled cries of " Prove, prove I") This, however) cannot be established by documents, but I am ready to produce viva. voce evidence. I demand, therefore, an in quiry, as the sole means of enabling me to prove what I have asserted. The Hon. Member then end-avoured to es tablish that the riots arose from the system of the Ministry- The Kteper of the Seals, at some length, defended the Government Iron the charge of bsving fomented the dis tutbances in Paris, and attiibitligiiiesomisotivn a agi tation to the efforts made by republican journalists. The sitting was then adjourned till the succeeding day (Tuesday.) CHAMBER OF DEPUTIES, SEPTFAtIiER 20. After some dismission tin the conduct of the National Guardia: in ConseqoenCe of the Complaint of two Deputies that they hail been interrupted and nearly rode over on leaving the Chamber yesterday, the Order of the Day was called, and the debate on foreign affairs resumed. " General Lamarque—The explanations given by the Minister for Foreign Affairs have only cleared dp tome detached ispiOts: They h:'.ve ii.nt been able to overthrow or disprove results, which, being irreconci'eahle with the dignity and interests of the nation, press with all their weight on the present Administration—an Adminis tration which does not merely associate, like Louis XVIII. and Charles X., with the Holy Alliance, but takes a place in its train.—(Murmurs.) Belgium, with the pro portions to which that country has been reduced, will be Ina the shadow of a kingdom, and will have hut the shadow of a King. Th it Sovereign will do well to have his baggage always ready packed up, and a packet-boat lying at Ostend, that he may hive the opportunity of escaping in it from the visits of the Prince of Orange ; for Prance may not always have at Nlaubeuge and V len ciennes troops sufficient to support his wavering throne.— The Ho'y Alliance has therefore attained an important preliminary object, and every thing promises it on this point a prompt restoration, which may be the forerunner of a more important restoration, for which Europe is preparing. It is in vain to hope to blind the eyes of the people by negotiations a la Bernis. Nations are now too enlightened, and the history of Napoleon ex- ists, to teach them that it is not neccessary to go back to the days of Agamemnon to discover a father who sacrificed his daughter. Having replied to the argument on the neutrality of Belgium, he said,—as a citizen and a soldier I blush to hear Ministerial explications, at once vague and forced, given respecting our evacuation of Belgium. It is plain that French soldiers have been obliged to obey the orders of the manufacturers of protocols in London, who have prescribed the route and pointed out the halting sta tions for our army. The official journal was then false, and our Minister of War was deceived, when it was stated that our soldiers would not leave Belgium. They are, however, withdrawn, leaving the Belgic Lion on the Wa terloo Monument. They evacuate the places built by our tribtre money, without their demolition being decided on. It in Prussia, Austria, Russia, that decide which of the fortresses erected against Fiance shall be demolished. Thus France is pushed aside like a criminal to be tried. She must await the sentence. When shall we make a stand in this rapid and shameful course of concession ? As to Poland, that unfortunate country has only fallen in consequence of having listened to the Councils of the Ministers of France. The Ministers, it is true, repel this charge, and formally declare that they made no pro• mises and held out no hopes to Poland. Time will clear up this fact, and 1 hope the Ministers will be justified on this point. It would be too painful to find that it is in the power of the Poles to address such a reproach to France. Poland might have been saved had Prussia been compelled to observe a real neutrality. It was not, how , ever, any longer of Poland, it was of France he had now to speak. the assurances of peace which the Ministers continue to give to the Chamber are altogether illusory. Do you believe that these Ministers will ascend the tri bune and say,—' We guarantee to you with our heads, that when the absolute Powers shall have extinguished all the germs of insurrection is Ida ferment in the heart of their states, they will not turn to the real source of their embarrassment, and endeavour to stifle amongst us a prin ciple of government contrary to their own?' Certainly not. Through their bold assurances it is easy to perceive an inquietude for the future. The Ministers tell us,_ , W e shall preserve peace, if we are prudent —we shall not be invaded if we are prudent.' But who is to decide whe ther we are prudent or not ? Where will the Amphyetions hold their council? No twitter, there is little doubt but they will decide that we were not prudent in the month of July, when we overthrew a throne, and expelled a dynasty.—(Hear, hear.) They will decide on that and you know how they forget and how they pardon. Alter entering into details of the military forces of the Powers which menace France, the General asked—What inspires us with so touch security ? When we exhaust our trea sures, when we deprive trade anti agriculture of useful hands, it surely ought not to be merely to make 500,000 men wear well trimmed pantaloons and schakos, and to parade them at reviews ; but to secure our independence and dignity, to give authority to our declarations, and nor to leave ourselves for a day, for an hour, at the mercy of those who have been, and tnay again be, our enemies. Let us hasten, then, to organize our means ; and I now inform the Ministers that I intend to submit a motion for that object. Let us hasten to consider the danger which menaces us. Let us hasten to render ourselves strong and formidable, for the purpose of maintaining peace ; for to render peace durable it is necessary to prove that we are prepared to break it. I move, then, that the Minister for Foreign Affairs be called upon to comtnunicate the papers of which he has read some fragments without signatures. Since Belgium, Italy, and Poland, have been sacrificed, it remains for the Ministers to justify themselves. We are entitled to say to them, " We want no more words, but we Want proof:—that is the price of our confidence."' For a sketch of the speech of M. Thiers, who replied to General Lamarque, see our correspondent's letter. (PRIVATE CORRESPONDENCE.) PARIS, SEPT. 20. It is now a quarter to one o'clock; the President has taken the chair, and M. de L•iriboissiere ascends the tri bune, to complain of time treatment he met with yesterday, while traversing the streets on horseback, at the hands of a detachment of the National Guard. He is succeeded by General Sebastiani, but, from the passionate terms in which he delivers himself, and the up roar excited by the announcement of M. Lariboissiere, it is impossible to catch even the import of his observations. M. Audry de Puyraveau reads a long written paper, which will doubtless be handed up to some favourite journalist; but all that can be gathered from it,' in the mean time, is, that it is corroborative of the accusation originated by the first speaker. M. Mather de Mongan defends the National Guard with good temper and firmness, and is followed on the same side, but with less moderation, by 31. de Laborde. Al. o , lillon l 3 irrot succeeds, and, with more tact and discretion than his predecessors, waits patiently at the tri bune till the storm is in some degree appeased. His ob. jest, I rejoice to find, is pacific. He is doubtless desirous to disabuse the public mind of the idea, which has lately been gaining ground, that he is one of those ambitieur who think of rising to station and eminence through the medium of a new reign of terror. The tribune is now in possession of M. de Schonen, who speaks with great force, and in the same sense with 31. Udillon Barrot. debate After between a n arigr y i n Generalc. d e p n t e a d m l ar is c discussion from a o hie to the iplace, he e, orderand nd M. Girod frotn the chair, General Lamarque obtains the parole, and proceeds with slow and me +sure(' step, a written paper in his hand, towards the steps of the tribune. But it he has prepared a written oration, he delivers himself, as he always dues, without book. He opens the whole question of the foreign policy of the Government in all its latitude. He begins with Belgium, and complains that the demolition of the frontier fortresses should be left to the deliberation, if not to the decision, of. the bitter enemies of France— Russia, Austria, and Prussia. Poland is the next point to which he applies himself, as /o which be repeats the argu ment maintained by M. Mauguin at the commencement of the debate yesterday morning. The Ministers are all pre sent ; M. Casimir Perier occasionally, by an incidental ex pression, more frequently by an equally significant gesture, announces his dissent from the views which the gallant Deputy proceeds to dev e l o p s . H e seems to concentrate his indignation against the Government, and the lachete of the Ministry, in permitting the latter Power to supply the oppressors of Polish freedom, not merely with shelter and protection, but with all the munitions of war. Thiers, the youngest, the least, perhaps the ablest, and certainly the most fluent, extemporaneous speaker on t he Ministerial side of the Chamber, prepares to answer the arguments of General Lamarque, and to defend the external policy of the Government. He takes a rapid sur vey of the proceedings of the Great Powers with reference to Belgium, resists the previous arguments of M. Bignon as to the entry of the troops of Austria into the states of the church, and contends that France could not rush into a war without the assurance—the certitude --of incurring the most serious dangers. lie boldly acknowledges his apprehension of the perilous consequences to France which war must carry in its train. An incident has just arisen to di,turb the solemnity which the debate had begun to assume. In allud ing to the last Spanish invasion, M. Thiers has fallen into a chronological error, which excites the hilarity of theceottehdee gauches, and for a few minutes interrupts the gr av i ty of the discussion. He displays , however, no small addr ess i n re trieving his mistake , and on resuming he proceeds to d raw a parallel between the habits of polticalliberty enjoyed by the inhabitants of England , and the habits of personal equal i tr inherent in the manners of the people of France. li inquired if France was wise in 1793 to pursue the system of a war of propagande which was then adopted. H. enumerates the campaigns which followed, and shows h o w they Iva to tile military dospotilm of A r apoleou, le /*asks, -to tngage in a war universal and in terminable? Belgium was a source of embarrassment to a ll th e world, but especially to France. When it became the subject of discussion before the Conference of London, it Was not necessary, as in an ordinary, deliberative as sembly, that the opinion of the minority, as contended by M. Mauguin and General Lamarque, should succumb before that of the majority. It was indispensitale to the peace of Europe that the neutrality of Belgium should be maintained, that it should not be blockaded by British fleets. nor over-run by Prussian armies. To effect this object it Was necessary to exclude the Prince of Orange, and after him the Duke of Leuchtenberg. He reminds the Chamber of the nomination by Napoleon of his brother-in• law and his hrother to the thrones of Naples and of Holland ; and shows, from the consequences that followed, how impo litic and imprudent it would have been to have accepted the crown of Belgium for the Duke de Nemours. He defends the accession of Leopold, and argues that unit.- him the neutrality of B •Igium will make it a more effee. tual tSte du pont for the dc'ence of time kingdom, than if it had been actually annexed as a permanent appanage to the French crown. He next addresses himself to the other great branch, the qu,-stion of Poland, to which, wit.. that of Belgium, the arguments of M. Mauguin and Ge neral Lamarque were confined. He quotes the opinions of Napoleon and of Frederick the Great, as to the influ ence of Poland on the balance of power in Europe. Here M. Thiers is interrupted, the sitting is suspended, and before it is resumed the hour of post will have arrived, so that here I must close this too hasty communication.—L. (From the Messager des Chambres, Wednesday,Sept. 21.) PA US, SEPT. 20.—The report of the Committee on the Peerage has been presented to-day to the Chamber by M. Berenger, a grave conscientious man, who (which is a remarkable fact) proposed in the Chamber of the Hundred Days to abolish the Hereditary Peerage, and was opposed by Manuel. Now M. Berenger, convinced by reason and experience, is an advocate of the Hereditary Peerage. The excellent arguments is !licit he adduced in favour (i 1 this re solution, condemned by the Committee as well as by the Government, will have little influence on the passions, and the passions have laid hold of this question. We recom mend to persons of every opinion the passage in which the honourable reporter enumerates the services rendered to our liberal institutions by the Chamber of Peers. At the moment of our going to press no serious tumult has distinguished this day, which some hire thought fit to announce ever since Saturday as threatening to the tran quillity of Paris. Detachments of the National Guard and of the troops of the line are stationed at the avenues to the Chamber of Deputies. Some groups were found in the squares and at the corners of the Rue Royale, but without uttering any cries. The closing of the garden of the Tuileries doubtless contributes to increase the number of persons in the Rue de Rivoli. It appears that the cutiosity which the riots excite has not ceased, for we remark ladies both on foot and in carriages who come •to take a prome nade, passing through the assembled groups. This desire of excitement would, we hope, be restrained, if people did not begin to see that now, as on former occasions, order and the lam must prevail. The very legitimate sympathy which the misfortune of Poland could not but excite, could not ex end to the riots, and the little regard that is paid to this proves that the spirit of the capital is not changed. If some fear has been mingled wilt the general sorrow, confidence revives, because the question becomes more clear, and persons interested in disorder must perceive that there is no pretext, however not(1-), which can mislead a p e ople so enlightened as the pcop'e of Paris. The explanations given by the Ministry will, as we Lope, complete the renewal of confidence ; they destroy the, system of falsehood and calumnies, by which it has been sought to turn an unhappy event to the advantage of dis orders. Let discussion take place of defamation, and argu ment of brawling; and the Government, on the ground of fact and logic, will be enabled to inform and convince its impartial adversaries. (From the Journal du Commercc,of Tuesday.) PAII.IS, SEPT. 19.—The Aviso publishes the following letter : ALGIERS, AUG. lb.—Since the unfortunate expe don to Medeah, the Bedouins carried terror to the gates of Algiers, and it was reported that they are assembling, to number of 50,000 men, in the plains at the foot of the Little Atlas." REFORM IN THE NORTH. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. Sze,—•The northern counties are in a st.te of great po litical excitement, and were any irritation to transpire I dare not imagine the result. The Political Union seems to be the lever of the ❑orth, and it appears, at its com mand, to be able to rouse the whole mass of the population, and that too in ~.uch a cool, organized, determined manner as to cause a most solemn and petrifying effect. The northern " Grimaldi" in saying that the people of the north have cooled with.respect to the Bill has his answer in the large meeting, and in the extraordinary and im posing dinner ; it has likewise been followed up by a pe tition sent off last night to be presented by Eal Grey to the House of Lords, not in the usual style of petitioning, hut in that style which w:11 assure their Lordships that the petitisners, knowing their rights, demand and will hive them ; it was signed by 30,73 k in a few days, and some of the parchtnents came too late to he sent, which added, would make considerably above 31,000. The pe tition lay but in one bookseller's shop in this town, and was lestooned on his high building and in his shop ; in Sunderland part of it was suspended as a flag, with tri coloured ribands ; in Alnwick it lay in the Town-hall, and was signed by 800 of the most respectable inhabitants of that town ; and what will the mighty Duke think when he learns, that as if in a spirit of manly determina tion, every tradesman of influence has named his protession, and added his residence? The power of the Union in creases fact, for by dint of perseverance in iisseminating political papers, they have aroused the whole body of pit men to the study of politics. They (the pitmen) applied for parchments and were refused from want of time, other wise from 11 to 17,000 more names might have been added. However, lam positive, at any time, in two day., ' the Union can call forth a body of not less than 80 000 men. That you may be better able to judge of the feeling of the people here as regards time Bill, 1 need only mention that a meeting of the inhabitants of the town is to take place on Monday, and it is determined to move that if their Lordships decline or injure the Bill, that they (the people) willl decline paying towards the support of a corrupt and self-interested aristocracy. - I am, Sir, yours, &c. Newcastle-upon• Tyne, Sept. 21. S. J. TO THE EDITOR OF THE SUN. Stß,—l hasten to inform you, that so far are tie inha bitants of this town become careless or indifferent to the great and important measure now about to be presented to the Upper House, that on hearing there was the least doubt entertained in the minds of their Lordships by the so oft repeated assertions of a few interested individuals, that a re-action had taken place, or that the country had become indifferent to the fate of the Bill, and fearing it might endanger or even delay the progress of the Bill in the House of Lords, they have met and determined on peti• tioning their Lordships to give the Bill their utmost sup port, and that it may pass their House with as little delay as possible, well knowing that the English nation never will rest satisfied until they have the benefits of the Con stitution restored to them, by being fully and fairly repre sented in the House of Commons. Your's, &c. Frorne, Sept. 19. A CONSTANT READER. SURREY THEATRE. --Mr. B. S. FAIR BROTHER, treasurer to this popular little theatre, takes his ber.cfit there on Monday next, and as his bill of fare is excellent, comprising the well-known drama of Ivanhoe, and the celebrated nautical piece of the Red Rover, to say nothing of minor points of attraction, we have doubt it will meet with encouragement. By the bye, the performances at the Surrey are wonderfully improved of late. " The Sailor's Grave," which we hear so highly spoken of, is, we understand, by the same corn poser as " Th e L an d w hi ch no Mortal may know.,, It must indeed be very good if it ad !a a fresh leaf to the laurel she acquired by the composiion of that elegant ballad. PIERCE EGAN has just published a new song, entitled, " As Britannia one day reclined o'er th, wave," the words of which are as pleasing and simple as the music. The latter is the composition of Mr. HUGHES. WRECK OF THE. ROTHSAY STEAMER.— BEAummus, TitußsDay.—Two fiats and a steam,' have been employed some time in taking up the wrec and machinery ; they had yesterday brought up tla two boilers and some part of the engines, and this morning they expected to be able to sling up the en gine, by which the body of Mr. FOSTER would be disen tangled, and a coffin was taken down to the wreck fin the purpose of receiving his remains. Last night to, body was taken up and brought to Beaumaris, but in very mutilated state. It was enclosed in a leaden calif, and taken nn board the packet for the purpose of brit' conveyed to Liverpool. Parts of the remaining wreei have bee❑ brought to Beaumaris; the rottenness of proves the unsound state in which the vessel was...— Carnarron geraW. COURT CIRCULAR. 'I heir MAJESTIES went yesterday to Woolwic l 3t yard, to witness the la unc h o f a s hip o f th e line 0 1 t class (the Thundcrer). Their MAJESTIES and suite went in eight carriar:o four, with outriders, escorted by a detachment of L s l tl and left the P a la ce a t St. J ames ' s , by t he garde r !" ,bout ist twelve o'clock. The KING and (I' lo were accompanied by the Duchess of CumriEsL , *# Duke and Duchess of eumcwn xn, th e D u ke and P . o o Gr.oueEsrE, t'ae.rincess AUGUSTA, Prince u ' of Cumber). ind, Catthrido f ir Ducl+ess of S AX E WEIMAR, Prince fax*.irticl,•! ) di !:enlohe Jehringen, the Baron DE BOCKELBERG) 2 419 attended by the Duk e o f D EVONSHIRE , Earl 0 1' !' M A ILLE, Lord H I L L , L or d J AMES O'B RIEN , Lady 1311 r ° :)' I.OIV, Miss WIL S ON, Lord F. FITZCLARENCE, yot FITZCLARENCE, Sir W. FREMANTLE, SIT F. I V A I ; jt Srl Eh WHEATLY, Lord U. GROSVENOR, ViSCOUP/ LETORT, and Sir A. BARNARD. The Duke of CLoucEsa Et: sat by the side of the who appeared in an Admiral's uniforni ; the yoting l :` 0 GEORGE and the E a rl of ALBEMARLE sat opP°' ll MAJESTY. tot i Their MAJESTIES and suite returned to the I''' . St. James's shortly before six o'clock. The Russian aid Freach Ambassadors and Coolitol TuscEwirz, the Russian Minister, on a special n' had a conference for near two hours yesterday ni cer V at the Foreign. office with Viscount PALMERSTON. ,e GREY had an interview with •he Noble Viscount day afternoon at the Foreign-office. The Minister from the United States, a nd the Dlei and Danish Ministers, transacted business yesterdsi the office of the Secretary of St its for Foreign Affni rli '.; The Marquis nr: PAI.3IELLA visited Earl Gn E ' Wu dnesday at the Treasury. pt T,:e remains of the late Marquis D'lLtacoonT, o ',),i his death by a f a ll f rom hi s h orse , were con veyed his villa, at St. L eonar d' s , on four 'Wednesday, for inte r , , The carriages ando of the deceased, the Coon 7; llAncounT, the Duchess of NEWCASTLE, Lord Pi; am - Lotion, Lord ASHBROOK, Sir ROBERT WIOKAg i llAwrronn, and most of the neighbouring gentieroe° five miles Color. BJOR round NsToJ , f'lowed in the procession. c, o 1 ° ERNA, the Swedish Ministe•, n e panied by hi s C oun t ess , h as l e f t town f ur t h e contir His Excellency, it i s ex p ec t e d, w ill b e a b sen t b e tween and three months. PRICES OF TILE STOCKS Bank Stock 3 per Cent. lied 3 per Cent. Cons. ...... 817;42 1 4 2 3!c, per Cent. shut Ditto Red. 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Ditto, New ................... • , Ditto, 18•2-1 Danish Guatunala .............. :.;'..'l 34,', Spanish, Ititn .................. .. ~ iireek Bonds — ilBiti .................. ';', 4 Ditto, !St2s ....... _--- _French Ex ßen ch te , s ? „ ,gc s N. c. ": .. . oi i,: / / 6 , Mexican Bonds ....I,' Ditto, 182.5 '— Exchange ..»•• ____. REFORAI. T HE A FLAB o f SUNDAY Not o t • give th e D a b a t es a t grea t er l engt h t h an any ° b ! Nyeekly Newspaper, together with the list of the 5 1 e a/ 0 55kho voted f or an d aga i nst t h e pass i ng o f t h e Re f or m' in addition to its usual Miscellany. Published ou Saturday Aft, moon, and forwarded 1 1 ni2jit's post to all parts of the . kingdom.—Orde r° ceived by the Newsmen. 13eanfort-huildings, Strand. TOWN-HALL, POOLE. A T a MEETING of the Inhabitants of I J , CM-- Town and C o u n ty o f P oo l e , convene d by Pu s( notice, and held at the Guildhall, on Wednesday , tether 1831, JOSEPH GULSTON GARLAND, Esq., in the C'"o, Resolved' unanimously, on the motion of Geo. Pal a4 ' Esq., seconded by JOHN HARRISON, Esq. 0 A That having watched with great, with constant' t t yt • with increasing interest andf anxiety, the progress e' d • l lb H form Bill no w b e f ore P ar li ament, we, i n commo n " i f our fellow-subjects, contemplate the possible rejectioo the said Bill by the House of Lords with feelings `', f ,l most serious appr e h ens i on an d a l arm, b e i ng persuade° tL • such an event would prove dangerous in the extree l : hi the peace and w e lf are o f t h e country ; an d , believingri' this important r eme di a l measure i s i n di spens ibl y n eee. o , to remove abuses that in a long course of years have l eg dually and almost imperceptibly sprung up and taken 'd in the Constitution, and to restore it to a v igorotP ro , healthy sta e, w e d o h ere by d ec l are our unqua lifi e d aPP Nation of it, and our conviction that the constituti e tto a part of the law of the land will effectually contrilOad maintain the public peace, and promote the welfare the happiness of the nition. Resolved therefore unanimously, on the motion of - v o' IlAttalsoN, Esq., seconded by GEO RG E L OCK YER , ROTT, Esq., Toat a petition be pr e s en t e d t o th e H ouse o f li rdl' M • praying that n this gr e at a nd v it a l quest i on 51 131 '0 brought under the consideration of that Right Hotioarly House, the ardent desire of the country at large 0 a., 0 1 granted, and that a measure eminently calculated to O w to the Throne, the Parliament, and the People their re tire constitutional rights, may pass into a law. p. Resolvz!il unanimously, on the motion of JAMES SAO' Esq , seconded by JOHN BisHOP BUNN, Esq., d o That the Rieht H. Lord Holland be req ost e present the petition and support the prayer of it. p. JOS. G. GARLAND, Chairvo, The Chai rman h av i ng l e f t tie Chair, Resolved 1 l inously, on th e mot i on o f JOHN HARRISON,L cunded by GEORGE PENN EY, Esq , that the thanks co or Meeting be g i ven t o t h e Ch a i rman, f or hi s a bl e a nd partial conduct in the chair. THE COLOSSEUM—REGENT'S PARK' y t ed; The whole of this Magnificent Undertaking being col ll l4c the Proprietors respe c t' u ll y i nv i te t h e attent i on o f t h e Pk' the following Exhibitions, viz.:— To view the Panorama of London and surrounding country' , , the Ball removed from St. Paul's Cathedral, the Prospectg from the summit of the B u ildi ng , an d t h e S a l oon o f Arts To view the Conservatories, Fountain, Swiss Cottage, wa terfall, Alpine Scenery, and Grotto and Marine Cave, just op red 1 e To view the Panorama only The whole viewed for . Children half-price. N.D..— Splendid and Unique Collection in Sculpture, - &e. constantly on Sale. Annual Tickets issued daily.—Open from Ten till 131.2.1:_:// gif ~(:'1 2 :•..tr ' ,4 . ..."4 .. ' ..:". . ..i. - . WO b LONDON, , , FRIDAY EVENING, SEPTEMBER 23, 1831., The Reform Bill was presented to the 14°1jhso of Lords last night by Lord J. RUSSELL , was accompanied to the bar by au impos i/IP r number of Members. E a rl G RE Y shortly a l,le moved the first rea di ng o f th e Bill, which s agreed to without comment, and the secoo,i; reading appointed for Monday se'nnight. far so good. The great healing measure is nlt fairly afl oa t i n t h e L or d s , an d we h ave li t tle (1 0 1 of the re su l t . N ot f rom i nt i m id at i on , not fr ° ' any base motives of personal apprehensi'l will the Peers permit it to become the la of the land, but from a stern sense of ch lt h ) ; from a consc i ousness o f w h a t th e y o we t° / to country, to themselves, to their families/ lit descendants. They will look steadily to the pr esen t as p ec t o f soc i e ty ; th e y w ill take 11 ' 0 consileration the immense, the countless inter e ' e. involved in the grand question ; the in te ce l j ; inxiety, the fixed moral determination 0 )y all classes to bring it to a triumphant issj i ,' nd bearing these sev e r a l p o int s i n m ind, t il l Lords, who are true Englishmen at hc 3rt ': c c )ow to the sense of th e community, acq u ' es the justice and necessity of the Bill, P 355 re inmittilated—unadulterated, and thereby e l ' s° he lasting gratitude of the people. I,e -n ill But we unfvrtunately be mist3R Our conj, hourly 'fore di sure, no them fo th ey w pla ce d I who will trust ; setti ng . every di m uster z sands a fur ineN, th at is th e a, at the gard t( acute, SYSter n So long thin gs Refor m r ated t Lords Not st r ik i4 obtain wri tes °Cf fr o , b our se thirty t ti me bt that t o leave "ecli `` that th e st A.ri sto mor e With ti With t lands IS abrc _ — ill , nant Cheri An be dis ')44 Perish 4, are Let 1' "Peri 'llost 43 m and t o it V day' : folio !>er tiotu ;th at tleci ter( RTI