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'% - ',(:. -- '.2:9/..0.4 - : - . .:-A ' „--- " •.: , .. - 4, `,. / , 4 -'l, . ‘4..7 .- ' 4, .: 4.,....,.. , • ' --.. , 4 •-...... t' .l ~ ,, 11,: st i' .0 01 __....-11 - 1 i fir . , ( 4 .44. : : 1,1 41 - ISt: 2: ,, , , ijR• \• ''. - ~ N - 1 ,77 ' 11 4, . ...', ' i t,t) , ' t s - . _ V ' ' , - 14 3 u- 1.-N 4t O/T 4,45 EDINBURGH STEAM SHIP. IHE UNITED KINGDOM, of 100 tons burthen, and 200 horse power, D. TURNER, Commander, will commence plying between London and Edinburgh, and start from off Greenwich for Edinburgh, at Ten o'clock, r.se.. on the following days : SATURDAY, 23d APRIL. I SATURDAY, 14th MAY. WEDNESDAY, 4th MAY. WEDNESDAY, 23th MAY. Calli ng off Scarborough, weather permitting. Goods and Parcels received at the Spread Eagle Office, Regent Circus, Piccadilly; Cross Keys, Cracechurch-street, and Down. Wharf, till Four o'clock of the day of sailing. Berths may be tak en , a plan of the Cabins seen, and every further in finmation obtained by application to H. Underwood, 56, Eayniarket ; the Spread Eagle Office, Regent Circus, Pic cadilly; W. A. Cuningliam, 8, St. Swithin's-lane; or George Bell, Agent, 157, Fenchurch-street. N.B.—Tois vessel is now much improved in her Ma etinery and Cabins, the Deck being completely covered in. by - which most superior accommodation is afforded to pas gengers, in sixteen State Rooms, of two and four Beds each, in Ladies Cabins, on the Upper Deck and also in the Foie Cabins. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. ' A - w included retain- their, addition' dieniuutied, ,niber 627. had be counties tile; ill pursuit beer , hold rear value , j ild incluel! MOUSE OF LORDS, Ap j „, 18. LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, APRIL 19, 1831. coudticg', the right 0 1 to extend , titre ha(l i alteration r who wal appointeli register oters• 1 No. 12,044. PRICE 7-1). he gives up to the public the whole of his salary, (a course which, on important public grounds, has not been ap proved of by the Committee), suggest the expediency of making such future arrangements by order in Council as may fix the salary and emoluments of the Lord Privy Seal at 2,0001. net. OFFICE OF COMMISSIONERS FOR THE AFFAIRS OF INDIA. SPIRIT OF THE PUBLIC JOURNALS. eleven, May - 3, and 31, at twelve, at the Court of Commissioners. Pocock Bartholomew-close. 'JOHN BARNETT, Devonshire -place, Old Kent-road, Surrey, navy-agent, April '22, at twelve, 29 , at one, and May 31, at twelve, at the Court Commissioners. Thrum), Oxford-street. —( Hear, hear.) He had as yet said not one word upei this, measure, and he felt great unwillingness in in trot'. ding their Lornships now, but he considered the objec tions to this measure to great and numerouss that he cou!d refrain no longer from addressing the House on this sub. ject. He considered the measure not only a revolutito, hut revolutionary—it gverset every institution of the -coun try, and lays at the mercy of the people, without protec tion, the funded interest, the mercantile interest, the foreight interest, and also that of the King. TI e possessionsof an Englishman no p e r son cou ld talcs away from him unless in the case of abuse, and to his mind iepri ring him of his right to vote was an infringement on the Constituti.m. The Bill would stamp the people of England with degredation, for t.t imposed on them a mark of helotisre. IMPERIAL PAIL. LIAM E nJ WHAT IS A •REVOLUTION ? AND WHAT ARE THE SIGNS OF ITS APPROACH ? • To. morrow will be publiAhed, by HATCHARD and SONS, Piccadilly, The Chancellor of the Exchequer will communicate with the President of the Board of Controul, for the pur. pose of taking such steps as may be necessary for the re duction of the salaries in this department ; the income of the President being reduced from 5,000/. to 3,5001. ; that of the paid Commissioners from• 1,500/. to 1,200/. each. and that of the Secretary to 1,500/.. with an addition of 3001. after three years' service. By. these changes a saving of 2,400/. will be effected. THIS EVENING. HOUSE OF eOMMONS. ranquillity • vice which took the au• have a task able suc- A 8 a Mi. ntry horn his Grace , position to ushed by a 'as the 111i e conduct tnited will, leniable de ms.—(The cheers.) louse. Beans. 5. to 5. 36, 50 _ 52 36 42 42 46 s. d. s. d. 56 60 59 60 72 Sd 00 00 73 - 70 00 180- 10 o 11 6T 10 6 12 0' 00 0 1 15. s. tine 744. s. fine 725. 5. fine 70s. 5. fine 775. 5. fine 73e. 5. tine 71is. I. tine 444. s. fine 395. 5. fine 40s. 5. fine —s. fine 4sis. I. tine 41s 5. fine 335. I. fine 314. 5. fine 295. per Stone. per Load. per Load. . per Last. 'Oatmeal. 35 38 40 .44 48 - 43 44 ►untrt. la.—Oats, 76 ,I33.—Beef. n conse xford," the is in the LTIONe ouse of J. t bench of g at Limp yowl, was ix niece. It iephew and rt by the last neek• nephew re - Ily, and on ncle in bed ttion," and onsent, and his charge jf arrant, and ours in bed nd that the :o compro lan 201. — entertained 1 Court for ;ht proper. his wife. iniTersary institution i4hopsgate numeron4 assembled harity is t 1, male and have been if easy eir eived at an Ktou, there ed, ..ad co , and upon tired to is incing evi )e adduced I at the so' and rope e borne of the life. gore' s addressed leclared hie parity from eft. Lord absence of arged the . Among' CETICA and )op, AI. P. f illy eontri , tal amount but as the nbes of the it friends of r efforts to re the tou r conferral trham, of of a son. Wood, the sleigh, of wife of 0• . White, 01 J. F. Rose, .. O'Donel , ), to Mal, 11 , 4' ry, flitchiP 1 ., of ShaV' tcv. J. Ws l ' is late S. I,' Rev. C. st daughP OXOII. t of the P t' , widow, in re, J. reet, Va o' Stock P. ALETTER TO THE KING. By " THE SILENT MEMBER" of Blackwood's Magazine. ' In 1789, Louis XVI. was hailed as the Saviour of his Country, because he placed himself at the head of a Rdorm ing Ministry. In 1793, he was led out to execution. History teaches by example. To—morrow will be published, the E DINBURGH REVIEW, No. CV. CO UT.ENTS . _ _ I. Lingaas History of England—ll. Cauises and Cure '4 . Disturbances and Pauperism—lll. Public Schools of Engl a nd ; Westminster and Eton—lV. Schiller and Goetke's•Carrespondence—V. Reade's Poems ; Cain the Wanderer, Revolt of the Angels, &c —VI. Muller's His tory and Antiquities of the Doric Race—Vll• Bulwer's Siamese Twins, and other Poems—Via. Taylor's His toric Survey of German Poetry--IX. EpistoW °bana 1-Drum Virorum ; Character and Authorship of that re markable Satire—X. Beechey's Voyage to the Pacific and liehring's Strait—Xl. Parliamentary Reform, and the Minibtry. Longman and Co., London ; and A. Black, Edinburgh. PARLIAMENTARY PAPER. SALARIES. COPY OF TREASURY MINUTE, DATED ♦PRIL 15, 1831, REDUCING THE SALARIES OF PERSONS HOLDING OFFICE DURING PLEASURE, AND BEING MEMBERS OF ZITHER HOUSE OF PARLIAMENT. T. SPRING RICE. Whitehall, Treasury-chambers, April 15, 1831. COPY OF TREASURY MINUTE, DATED APRIL 15, 1831. My Lords read the following Order of the House of Commons, made upon the motion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer on the fith day of December, 1830 : " Ordered, that a Select Committee be appointed to in quire what reductions can he made in the salaries and emoluments of offices held during the pleasure of the Crown, by members of either House of Parliament." My Lords read the report of such Select Committee, presented to the House on the 30th of March. My Lords advert to the opinion expressed in the said report, that it is essential " that the public service of the State should be discharged at the smallest possible ex pense which is consistent with its efficient performance; but that at the same time no consideration, merely of a pecuniary nature, should be set in competition with the paramount and evident necessity of securing for offices of great trust and confidence the highest class of intelligence and integrity." Entertaining a confident hope and expectation that these two objects may be combined, and may he obtained by adopting the recommendations of the Select Committee, my Lords feel it their duty, at the earliest possible period, to carry these economical recommendations into effect. My Lords consider this step to be in strict accordance with the measures they have already taken or directed, and more particularly with their minute of the 25th January last, by which, on the suggestion of Earl Grey and the Chancellor of the Exchequer, inquiries have already been instituted for the purpose of ascertaining, in the first place, whether the salaries of the persons employed may not be in some instances greater than is required for the perform ance of the duties of their respective offices ; and, secondly, whether the expence of the different departments of the State may not he dioaulshed. con.iatently with a due re gard to their efficiency. THE TREASURY. My Lords direct that the salary of the First Lord of the Treasury should be continued at the net sum of 5,0001. per annum ; but that in all cases in which the office is held in conjunction with that of Chancellor of the Ex chequer, the salary attached to the latter office should be reduced one-half, making a total sum of '7,5001., or a saving of 2,500/. My Lords direct that the salary of the Chancellor of the Exchequer be reduced to a net sum of 5,00(11., putting an end to the present complicated mode of payment, and thus effecting a saving of 398/. per annum. Direct the fees of the Chancellor of the Exchequer to be carried to the Fee Fund. My Lords direct that the salaries of the Junior Lords be reduced to 1,2001. pet anum. My Lords are pleased to approve of the reduction of the salaries of the Joint Secretaries of the Board from the present amount of 3,500/. to the amount recommended by the Committee of 2,5001., by which a saving of 2,000/. per annum will take place. Let the necessary steps be taken to carry these reduc tions into effect from the sth of April last. OFFICES OF SECRETARY OF STATE. Write to the Viscount Melbourne, the Viscount Pal merston, and Viscount Goderich, calling their Lordships' attention to the report of the Committee with respect to the salaries of his Majesty's three principal Secretaries of State, and suggest the expediency of giving effect to that report by an Order in Council, reducing such salaries from their present amount of 6,000/. to 5,000/. each, and also reducing the salaries of one Under Secretary of State in each of their offices, from 2,000/. to 1,5001. By these reductions an annual saving will be effected of 4,b0 - 0/. With respect to the office of the permanent Under- Secretaries, who are stated by the Committee to remain in office during different changes of Administration, and who thus make a profession of official life, my Lords are of opinion'that their appointments should be distinguished from those which are more exclusively of a political cha racter, and connected with Parliamentary duties. They cannot therefore unreservedly concur in the views of the select Committee, considering that the saving of salary for three years upon such appointments is a matter of in finitely less importance to the public, than the increased probability of obtaining, upon vacancies, the services of men of high character, experience, and acquirements for the discharge of duties of the most confidential and re sponsible description. The appointments of the Parliamentary Under Secre taries of State frequently lead to advancement in the higher offices of the Government, whilst to the perma nent Under Secretaries those appointments are, generally speaking, the commencement of a laborious course of profession of great trust and of close application. Further, it is not unfrequently the case that persons ac cepting these appointments are called upon to sacrifice other pursuits, and to quit active and profitable profes sions, in the prosecution of which their experience has been acquired, and their cap icity fir office has been proved. These remarks, my Lords consider applicable to the Permanent Under Secretaries of the three department.. Such an acquaintance with the relations between the British Empire and Foreign countries, such an accurate knowledge of the complicated but most important interests of the colonies, as are indispensably necessary to assist in carrying on with effect, and frequently under changes of administration, the business of those two depirtments are not qualifications very readily discovered, nor are they of very frequent occurrence ; and when it is further con sidered of what importance it is to the service of the State, that the Secretary for the Home department should be assisted by the knowledge and experience of a lawyer of character and professional station, and how deeply the interest of the public is involved in the performance of his duties, both as relating to the administration and the im provement of the laws, my Lords do not conceive that there is any departure from the principles of a wise economy in continuing the present salaries of 2,0001. per annum to the permanent Under Secretaries of State. PRIVY COUNCIL OFFICE . Write to the Lord P res id ent, and suggest to his Lord ship the expediency of giving effect, by an Order of Coun cil, to the report of the Select Committee, by a reductionof the salary of the Lord President to a net aw of 2,000/. per annum, by which a saving w ill b e effe cted of 840/. 17s. 4,1. OFFICE OF PRIVY SEAL. , 71 t his the re i Call the attention of the Lord P r i vy &rnmendation . of the Committee as affecting S. g s office; ,„i dence an d although it appears from his Lordship's that ‘ OFFICE OF JUDGE ADVOCATE. Communicate to the Secretary at War the directions of my Lords, that the salary of the Judge Advocate General be reduced to a net suns of 2,0001. in lieu of all other allowances, being a diminutionof chary of 1,0001. per ann. A DMIRALTY. Write to the First Lord of the Admiralty, for the pur pose of suggesting that the Lords Commissioners should take the neces,ary steps for making the reductions recom mended by the Committee, namely, the reduction of the salary of the First Lord from 5.000/. to 4,5001. • that of the First Secretary from 3,000/. to 2,000/., with an ad dition of 5001. : after five years' seryice., BOARD Or ORDNANCE. Communicate to the Board of Ordnance the recommen dations of the Committee, in which my Lords concur, that. the patent salary attached to the office of Master-General of 1761., together with his pay as Captain of the Cadet Company, amounting to 4741., should cease. My Lords are also of opinion, that the reduction of the salaries of the Treasurer of the Ordnance, and of the Secretary to the Master-General, to 1,0001. each, should be carried into effect. By this alteration a saving of 1,0151. will be effected. POSTSIASTER-GENERAL. My Lords agree in the opinion expressed by the Select Committee, that an office of so much trust and labour as that of the Postmaster- General for the United Kingdom is fully eatitled to a continuance of the present salary of 2,500/. My Lords apply to this office the observations of the Committee with reference to the office of the Lord Privy Seal, and although his Grace the Postmaster-General, as well as the Lord Privy Seal, has thought fit to decline re-. ceiving the salary annexed to his office, my Lords are of opinion that great offices, of acknowledged utility .for the service of the public, and the execution of which is at tended with some additional personal expense, should have allotted to them a reasonable and moderate salary ; even if the principle of gratuitous services were admitted, to which my Lords see very serious objections, it would be peculiarly inapplicable in a case in which the Committee have reported " that the reform of abuses so actively pur sued since the present Postmaster-General has held the office, together with the efforts he ha made to improve its organization, are a sufficient evidence of the industry and zeal with which these duties are now performed." RANGER OF THE PARKS. My Lords advert to the recommendation of the Select Committee, that tite salary of the Ranger of the Parks should be discontinued, the office being stated to be a sinecure, and unconnected in any way with the dignity of the Crown. In this recommendation my Lords concur. MINT. My Lords are pleased to direct that a new patent be made out for the Master of the Mint, with a salary reduced from 3,0001. to 2,000/. LORD HIGH CHANCELLOR. The reduction proposed to be effected in the emoluments of the Lord Chancellor, founded upon the evidence and recommendations of bis Lordship, can only be carried into effect by legislative enactment; but this object may be at taised in the Bills. for the introduction of which notice has been given by the Chancellor of the Exchequer during the present Sosion. KEF.PE.R. OF TIIE GREAT SEAL OF SCOTLAND. My Lords direct that the necessary steps be taken to withdraw from the office of the Keeper of the Great Seal ... ,, ntribution of public money towards the official salary, leaving t►ie remuueramou ul Lin. mime 10 depend upon the amount of fees received. CHIEF SECRETARY TO THE LORD LIEUTENANT OF IRELAND. My Lords concur in the recommendation, that the salary of Chief Secretary for Ireland be in future fixed at 5,5001., in lieu of all other fees and emoluments; and they desire that Mr. Stanley will move the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland to give directions that the fees may be carried to a fee fund, in aid of the expenses of the Chief Secretary's office. LORD CHANCELLOR OF IRELAND. With respect to the opinion of the Committee, that S,OOO/. will be an adequate remuneration for the office of Lord Chancellor of Ireland, such a reduction has, in point of fact, been carried into effect by anticipation by his Majesty's Government, and the proper steps will be taken to confirm and perpetuate the reduction by legisla tive authority. Communicate this minute to those departments to which the several recommendations refer; and let all the other necessary steps be taken, whether by the introduction of Bills or clauses, by the preparation of warrants and patents, or by the correction of the resolution , prepared for the consideration of the Committee of Supply, in order to give the public the benefit of these reductions from the sth of April last past. My Lords, having thus taken the earliest opportunity to carry into full effect the recommendations of the Select Committee, will apply themselves to the consideration of the question of salaries and allowances of those offices which are not included in the report now before them. They will proceed to examine the returns already received from the several departments, of the amount of salary, fees, and other emoluments received by the several classes of persons employed, as compared with the attendance given, the extent and nature of the duties performed, the degree of ability required, and the confidence reposed in each class. In pursuing this inquiry, it will be the desire of my Lords to keep always in view the justice and the policy of paying all public servants adequately with reference to the ability, experience, responsibility, and labour, requisite f•r the efficient discharge of their respective duties. Any sacrifice of these great principles, my Lords conceive would he an impolitic, unjust, and delusive economy, wholly irreconcileable with the real interests of the public. But not only is it consistent with these principles to abolish all unnecessary expence, and to retrench all ex. pence that is excessive, but it is by such means mainly that the proper remuneration of public men CAII be protected from obloquy and suspicion. _ . My Lords reserve to themselves the consideration of the superannuation and retired allowances of official persons. The subject has been, and still under their careful re view, but they are not prepared to express any opinion on the subject, without a more full and deliberate examination. BRITISH and FOREIGN SCHOOL SOCIETY The annual examination of the al children in the Boys' instant,vuable Institution, took m l a , at the Borough icehrao Road, iursmaa, nld, th ' e vi l tl lth tilis School, connecetl place on Tuesday, n t ‘ h s ein t ti e lyn J cre t e ) , I s l i n i: l ct v tha a i t ti ofe respectable. gentlemen ‘ Briscoe, fer E a . 8 a q n . w tis r e it e te x n exhibition of some the examination commenced with whom did address'd from presided. 8 i btnl beautiful specimens of penmanship, written w i from dictation. The junior classes were then examined reading; and the children, and to be moral than six or seven years of ag e , questioned notappear ether very acutely en the meaning of words and plaraeseacel.' A series of arithmetical questions were then the Chairman, wh ich were solved with astonishingrpoo followedtsd b celerity and great correctne ss, and a very rigid examination with regard to the attainments of the children ins to their Grrnof Grammar a and Geography. Th e hi g her classes then read portions Scripture, and were q uestioned very knowledge of the fa cts and doctrines of Scripture, whi e i, was evidently very extensive. The class of Egyptian o Arab boys having als o read and been questioned, the Rev. John Burnett, of Camberwell, the Re v . Rowla nd Hill,. Win. Evans, Esq., M.P., and the Chairman, successively addressed the meeting, after which it brjke up. It seemed to be the universal opinion that the school was never at any former period in so high a state of im provement, and the display of talent and information t ewhich the children made called forth repeatedly the ghesnco miums both from the Chairm an and the audjeace. ____.-----. - ider the The Duke of CUMBERLAND ` sat Ufl gallery of the House of Commons last night during the whole of its sitting. The vital question, the Parliamentary Reform Bill, was again brought before a crowded house last night ; the dis. cessions, long as they are, will continue to be read with unabated interest. The explanations, or new propositions which. took place, were to the following effect ;—Five bo roughs are to be taken out of schedule A. and added to schedule B.—viz. Aldboentigh, Buckingham, Okeilarap. ton, 111,Amesbury, and Reigate. Eight are to be taken out of schedule Chippenham, Leominster, Northallerton, Tamworth, Truro, Morpeth, Westbury, and Wycombe. These boroughs -have established their right to exemption, (as will be seen.by the corrected return presented to Parliament) under the rule laid down on the introduction of the Bill, by having proved that they re spectively contained within- the parish of their name, more than 2,000 and 4,000 inhabitants in 1821. Eight Members are to he added to the following counties, having a population from 100,000 to 150,000 inhabitants : Bucks, Bet ks, Cambridge, Dorset, Hereford, Hertford, Ox ford, Glamorgan. Seven Members are to be added to the fol lowing large towns :—Oldham, Bury, Rochdale, Whitby, Wakefield, Salford, Stoke on Trent (Potteries). Halifax is to b, restricted to the township, and to return only one Member, the p trish being t 5 miles in extent. The bo. roughs now admitted from schedules A. and B. (five of one, and eight of the other), were originally included in, these schedules fros a , the confess.. wording of the,,Par,li mentary census of 1821, which did not, in their cases, accurately distinguish and point out where parts of their pari4hes were in hundreds and counties. Thry will, of course, he subject to the same purification as the others. The numbers being thus unavoidably increases', advantage was taken of this circumstance to give representatives to the only remaining towns in England containing a popu lation of more than 10,000, and one more to each of the larger counties, thus keeping up the same balance between the new representative privileges given to the manufactUring and agricultural interests. Should the House determine to increase the number of Members to 655, Ministers will not consent that they should be given to schedule 8., but will give them to more unrepresented towns of a population between 4,000 and 10,000, of which thereare upwards of 60 well de serving the privilege. In no point, therefore, will there be any departure from a strict adherence to the original principle of disfranchisement of boroughs and enfranchise ment of large towns. The list will show how impartially Ministers have acted ; ten out of eleven of the boroughs exempted from schedule A. and B. being connected with their opponents. Sons of freemen, who will have been entitled to the privilege of freedom on their coming of age, born before the introduction of the Bill, and apprentices, having entered into indentures, in the same manner, will be entitled to it if they take out their freedom, are resi dent, and registered under the provisions of the Bill. Even when the grand principle of the Bill is carried, the minor and interior details are of vast importance; for as every clause is an enactment applicable to some place—to some county, city, or borough, and affecting the great interests of the State in their relation to each other —every clause deserves attention. It was not to be expected that the Bill, on its first presentment to the House, should be perfect : the changes which were brought forward last night are calculated to remove anomalies, to supply deficiencies, to adapt the parts to each other, and to give consistency to the whole. After Lord John Russell had explained at length the projected alterations in the Bill, General Gascoyne moved a resolution, that the number of English and Welsh Members should not be diminished. The effect of this resolution would be either to strike off the ten additional Members proposed for Ire land and Scotland, or to increase the total number of the House of Commons by ten Members. Lord Althorp ap-. pears by his speech to hive considered this alteration as vitally affecting the principle of the Bill; and we infer, from the entire tenour of his speech, that Ministers will regard a defeat on thie particular question as equivalent to a defeat of the whole measure.— Times. SECOND EDITION. N .11... r„ THE LONDON GAZETTE OF THIS EVENING. Lord Chamberlain's-Office, April 15, 1831. The Lord Chamberlain has appointed William Attrec, Esq., surgeon extraordinary to his Majesty's establishment at Brighton. 'War—Office, April 19, 1831. 4th Regiment of Dragoon Guards—Major H. Pratt, from the half-pay, to be Major, vice T. Hutton, who exchanges, receiving the difference, April 19. 13th Regiment of Light Dragoon—Lieut. J. Boalth, from half_ pay - 22d Light Dragoons, to be Lieutenant, vice H. Elton, who exchanges, April 19. fah Regiment of Foot—Lieut. G. Champain to be Captain, by purchase, vice Bent, who retires ; Ensign B. W. Shawe to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Champain ; S. G. Beamish, Gent. to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Shawe, April 19 . 9th Foot—Ensign S. H. Metcalfe to be Lieutenant, by pur chase vice Hilton, who retires, April 19 . M. Glasse, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Metcalfe, April 19. 37th Foot—Gentleman Cadet J. R. S. Wilson, from the Royal Military College, to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Ward, who re. tire, April 19. 70th Foot—. Lieut. G. B. Mathew to be Captain, by purchase, vice Kirk, who retires ; Lieut. F. B. Rocke, from half-pay 21th Light Dragoons, to be Lieutenant, vice Boalth, whose appoint ment has not taken place, April 18; Ensign J. G. Corry to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Mathew, April 19; W. M. Bigge, Gent. to be Ensign, by purchase, vice orry, April 19. Royal Staff Corps. To be Majors without purdhase. Captain T. G. Harriott ; Captain It. l'iers, April 19, To be Captains, without purchase. Lieut. W. Dillon ; Lieut. E. 'Martindale ; Lieut. T. W. Cot leton ; Lieut. E. C. Wilford, April 19. MEMORANDUM. The names of the Ensign apppointed to the 43d Foot, on the sth instant. are Hon. Harry Cavendish Grey. The name of the Ensign appointed to the 55th Foot, on sth instant, is Thomas De Havilland, and not Thomas De Havd.and, The Christian names of Cornet Parry, of the 17th Light Dra goons, are Frederick John, and not Frederick James, as before stated. War-Office, April 19. His Majesty has been pleased to approve of the sth Regiment of Foot resuming the motto, 44 Quo fata vocant," formerly borne on its colours and appointments, in addition to its ancient badge of St. George and the Dragon. DECLARATION OF INSOLVENCY. JOHN PAXTON, jun., Ironmonger- Cheapside, linen draper. BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED. THOMAS HEEL, Gateshead Low Fell, Durham, draper. BANKRUPTS. RICHARD SMITH, William-street, New Kent-road, licensed victualler, to surrender April 22, at two, May 3, and 31, at eleven, at the Couet of Commissioners. Harlstone. Lyon's-Inn. CHRISTOPHER MONK and THOMAS MONK, Frome- Sehvood, Somersetshire, linen-draders, May 12, at five, 13, at ten, and 31, at eleven, at the White Hart Inn, Bath. Perkins and Frampton, Gray's-In-square, London ; Miller, Frome. WILLIAM WRANGHAM, Louth, LinOolnshire, silver smith, April 27, at seven, 28, and May 31, at the Blue Stone "raven), Louth. Dax and Alger, Bedford-row, London ; Wilson and Goe, Louth. JOHN CRITCHLEY, Ryeford, Gloucestershire, coal-mer chant, May 3, at twelve, 4, and 21, at ten, at the George Inn, Gloucester. Colman, Stroud; White, Old.square, Lincoln's- Inn, London. JOHN CRONIN, Old Bailey, stone-merchant, April 26, 29, and May 31, at two, at the Court of Commissioners. Martin, Red Lion-square. THOMAS HENRY CHALK, Barking, Essex, corn-dealer, April 22, at two, 29, and May 31, at one, at the Court of Com missioners. Thomson, George-street, Minories. JOHN CO UTTS, jun., Notting-hill, Kensington, April 22, at one, 29, and May 31, at eleven, at the Court of Commissioners. Johnson, Quality-court, Chancery-lane. JAMES ARMSTRONG, Raskelf, Yorkshire, miller, April 22, at eleven, at the White Swan Inn, York. BUttertield, Gray's Inn-square, London. JAMES LEA, jun. Worcester, butcher, May 2,3, and 31, at twelve, at the Hop-pole Inn, Worcester. Becke, Devonshire street, Queen-square. London ; Hughes, Worcester. EDWARD HENRY FRANCIS, Ormend-house, Chelsea, schoolmaster, April 22, at two, 211, and May 31, at One, at the Court of Commissioners. Wrentmore, Charles-street, St. James's square. M A RI and HENRY CLAYTON, East Retford, Nottingham , drapers, May 10, 11, and 31, at eleven, at the George Inn, luddersfield, Yorkshire. Jacques and Battye, Coleman street, London, or Battve and Hesp, Huddersfield. JAMES A LLWRIG HT, Strand, cheesemonger, April 36, 29, and May 31, at one, at the Court of Commissioners. Binns, Essex-street, Strand. JAMES MILLS, Lamb and Flag, Clerkenwell-green, wine merchant, April 26, May 3, at twelve, and 31, at eleven. at the Court of Commissioners. Price and Wakeling, St. John's square, Clerkenwell. GEORG} , SMITH and ROBERT FOULTON, Gutter -lane , London, ~ varehousemen, April 21), at nine, May 10, at twelve, and 31, at nine, at the Court of Commissioners. Gregor)", King's Arms-yard' Coleman-street. JEFFREY WOOLSTON, Kingston-upon-Hull, toyman, April 26, 27, and May 31, at eleven, at I)ee's Royal Hotel. Bir mingham. Milne and Parry, Temple, London ; Beswick, Bir mingham. WILLIAM NOVELL, Clapham-road, Surrey, c arpenter, April 26, at one; M a y 3, a nd 31, a t t we l ve , a t th e Court of Com missioners. Bousfield, Chatham-place, Blackfiriars. 2.2 J OSEPH DAVIS, Hart-street, Covent-garden, orange-mer chant, April , 29 , and May 31, at eleven, at the Court of Com missioners. Matland, Fleet-stteot. THOMAS PLATT, Brentlord, coal-merchant, April ~b, rit In consequence of a ballot on. the Coleraine election. the gallery was not opened this afternoon until a few . mi nutes before Four o'clock. We understand, hewever, that no ballot took place. The rush of strangers to obtain admission was as great, if not greater thin on any former occasion, and the gal fiery, in a f•W moments, was crowded to excess. The backs 'of 'all the seats in the body of the House were la belled with the names of Members. Lord ALTHORP presented a petition from 'the county of Northampton, in favour of the plan of Reform. Mr. CARTWRIGHT said that the petition did net contain the sentiments of the majority of the freeholders 0 . Northamptonshire. , After a few observations . from Mr. V. Ssirrn and - Sir G. lioniNsost, the petition was brought up and ordered to be printed. Lord ALTHORP then presented a petition from the county of Perth, in favour of Reform ; and a Similar on `teem t2r:; , er:ste4 in tbe- - D. Mr. DUNUOMBE-Presenteda petitien from the Corpo ration of Leeds, against the proposed plan of Ileform ; and similar ones from Doncaster, Bradford, and Barnsley. Lord MORPETH was requested to state that the peti- : tions from Doncaster and Barnsley did not speak the senti nients of the majority of the inhabitanti of these towns ; neither were they agreed to at a public meeting. Mr. DUNCOMBE said the petitions were most re spectably signed ; and the reason of a public-meeting not having been called was in consequence of the opponents of the measure being convinced that they should be defeated not by argument but by clamour. , Mr. SYKES said the petitions did not contain the names of one-twentieth of the inhabitants of the towns from which they came. Mr. LYTTI.ETON presented a petition from the county of Stafford in favour of the Reform Bill. The petition was agreed to at the most numerous meeting of freeholders ever assembled in that county, and the feel ing in favour of the Bill was unanimous. The petition was signed by eleven_ Peers, and nearly 4,000 freeholders. After a few words from Mr. Cresset Pelham, Sir Chas. Morgan, and Mr. Campbell, the petition was ordered to be printed. Mr. LITTLETON presented a petition from the Chief Constables and Clergymen of a district in the county of Stafford, against the new beer shops. Also a petition from another district in the same county, for the extinc tion of negro slavery. Lord JOHN RUSSELL moved that the Order of the Day for the adjourned debate on Parliainentary Reform be read. Mr. L. BULWER said, if he understood the ar gument of the Hon. Member for Newark, it amounted to a denial of the necessity of Reform in Coto. • If this were the case he decidedly differed from that Hon. , Member. He considered the question of Reform to have been decided ages ago, by the march of civilization and the consequent progress of human affairs. When his Ma j; sty's Ministers came into office, they had to bring forward a measure which would pacify the angry feel ings of a discontented people. He wished, however, that some moderate scheme bad been introduced, hut that, he was afraid, would not answer the immediate purpose, while it satisfied the House, of pacifying the country. Ile called upon that House to remember that they lived in times when the middle classes were increased. Times in which, if the great spirit of faction availed nothing, the power of public opinion was invincible, and in which, when the prerogative of sovereignty was put against the people, not even the sword of military authority thrown into the scale had been found sufficient to turn the balance;•—(Hear.) It was for . fsess. liat some moastire of Reform was re quisite in our represe , - civil convulsions in almost every country, it was exllZia and necessary to unite those classes having property with the middle classes, and that this, upon the whole, was the best that could be introduced, and at once satisfactory and safe. The Ministerial measure met with his approbation. Mr. CAMPBELL was not disposed to find fault with the train of address that the Honourable Member who last spoke hail adopted, further than to hope that the present measure might pass, if it were for no other purpose than to prevent the Honourable Gentleman or any other Member of that House talk ing of the Noble Lord who had sent him there— language which had become almost as common in that House as the expressions of his constituents, and which would actually have horror-struck any Honourable Member m that House in ancient times. It was to be hoped the time would speedily arrive when such expressions could no longer be heard of. Ills (Mr. C.'s) principal object was to address a few observations to the motion that had been made by the Hon. and Gallant Officer on the other side of the House. That motion was that the Members returned for England remain, they being 513. For such a resolution, he (Mr. C.) was totally at a loss to dis cover any principle. What was there magical or so sacred in the numb er 13 ? Lord Coke had said there was something singular in the number 12. there were twelve tribes of Egypt—twelve signs of the zodiac—twelve Disciples—twelve Apostles—twelve months in the year, and twelve Judges of England—(Laughter) —but what there was in 513 he had yet to find out. Again, with respect to the number 45 for Scotland, why that number was to be preserved inviolate he had no means of knowing. On the contrary, in going back to the part t er o s f for tile England, that the original resolutions between the Commissioners of England. and the Commissioners for Scotland he found it was clearly understood by the Commissioners of Scotland, and he number might and should be varied. Ta t e original believed by was dti°tnhat Scotland should send 38 representatives, but p E r o o g p l o a s o i that number was a fterwards varied to 45. The Scotch cers (Cr: Commissioners tainly did no t insist on having more, but they looked forward t o the British Parliament for leave to have the num ', culd it be imagined that whatever h e r increase d. C alth tfiieottelrn that i\ ( ti iii l irse l tethou i etr i nsa(e ;a : p iosi p en e iri n nsy changes might take place with respect to the wealth and ed increase of population of Scotland that the number of 45 Scotland e e m Eben than sina li dn ° part that t at tfTaßhneryri et: wasm e c :tut absurdity e s i o e u s l oa d ni d b e tt thi a ce n l ta r le g ) ei t 0 1 E ) f r n i p gt u ili l ae a n t d i p o r t so i , hpo, us n il. d d e r r L a e : i m o n u: n a v t i d i n n r u da o p n a f p lw e a dn e r tion, s sae h gn o rd u e l afi e i tve Members, whilst Scotland an d Ireland returned so man y less? It arose from an absolute abuse of t h e prerogative of the Crown. It arose not from the representatives of large counties and populous places, but front an indisput a bl e abuse of the Crown i s, power of n individuals being vested with the bers to that House. Ili,. was sending directlyMem repugnant to the C o nstitution of England, th a t Constitution required that the representatives of the people in Parliament should b e returned by the people, and in no other way. The principle of retu • trung the Members to Parliament was laid down so long ago as thetime of Edward the First —he laid it dow n in the nsummonses which he issued, and he ph, C.) trusted th a t the t i me was at hand when that principle would b e recognized again, and acted upon in its largest acceptation. (LEFT SITTING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. CALCRAFT'S DIVORCE BILL. The examination of witnesses on this Bill was resumed, and the further consideration adjourned to Monday next. Lord EGMONT took the oaths and his seat. Earl SPENCER presented a petition from the county of Northampton in f avour o f R eform, a l so one f rom Tow rester to the same e ff ect. The Duke o f RI CIIMOND presented a petition from Boswell, in S ussex, to the same effect. The Bills o n t h e table were forwarded a stage. The Earl of WES TMORELAND, in consequence o f a petition having been presented by Earl Spencer from N orth "anipton in favour . of Reform, felt himself called upon to rescue himself and the generality of that respectable county from having countenanced so tyrannical a petition. Earl SPENCER apologized for having presented the petition in the absence of the Noble Earl, and deprecated the discussion of the merits of this groat measure on the presentation of a petition. The Earl of WESTMORELAND explained. The Earl of WINCIJELSEA said he could not refrain, being connected, as he now was, with the county of Northampton, and feeling great respect for the individuals who had signed the petition, from rising to meet the aspersions that had been thrown out against the petitioners by the noble Eati. He deprecated the warmth of language used on both sides, and he -re zretted that the noble Earl should choose to cal a measure of such importance 'tyrannical_ : and I revolm.; tionary ; .tmd, that he Auld- thrown ration s on a body of men whom he would say hotirever - ' warm the feelings of the Noble Earl miggt be for the good of his .country, could not be exceeded by the individuals individuals who placed the petition on their Lordships' table. With respect to the measure itself, when the time came for discussing it before their . Lordships, he should be prepared to state what parts he approved at', and those which.he 'considered ought to be rejected. Sir A. GRANT, and others, brought up the Corporation Property Fund Bill, and several-private Bills. BEEACH OF PRIVILEGE-TIMES NEWSPAPER Lord LIMERICK, presuming on the indulgence shown by the House when he brought forward the subject of a broach of privilege, trusted their Lordships would fa vour him for the moment, while he entered shortly into the merits of the case. He wished to state that he had no per sonal feelings whatever against the parties implicated, but he considered it a duty which be owed to the House and to himself when its privilege had been attacked in the manner he had stated to bring forward the subject before the consideration of their Lordships. For the purpose of saving thrir Lordships' time, he had looked over the precedents which had taken place in the House, in cases somewhat similar, from which he understood in cases of early days various pen 'hies had been inflicted on parties guilty of similar breaches of privilege. He was no advocate for violent punishment , . The LORD CHANCELLOR felt it his duty to put the Noble Earl right. There was a regular course taken in the House. There was an order now in existence which must first be disposed of, and the House could not entertain the question in any shape, till it was known whether the order issued yesterday was, or not, complied with.— When their Lordships had been informed that that order was complied with, and the persons sharged with a breach of privilege was in attendance at the Bar, then the proper course for the Noble Earl to pursue, would be, to make his motion, unless he intends now to move the House the order of yeiterday. The Earl of LIMERICK had no such intention, and repeated that he was actuated by no personal feeling. Mr. Pulman, the Deputy-Usher of the Black Rod, in formed the House that the Printer of the Times Paper was in attendance before their Lordships. The LORD CHANCELLOR—Bring him to the bar. Mr. J. J. Lawson then appeared at the bit., and on be ihg questioned by the Loan CHANCELLOR, stated that he was printer of the parer in which the paragraph alluded to appeared, and was ordered to withdraw. On the motion of Lord WYNFORD strangers were ordered to withdraw, anti the discussion was going on 'with closed doors when our reporter left. SPORTINur NEWMARKET CRAVEN MEETING. MONDAY ' S RACES. Match, 100 soya. h. ft. T.Y.C. Bst. 41b. each. Mr. Shard's bl. f. by Waterloo (Robinson) 1 Mr. R. Wilson's Ilildeston Lass Won easy by two lengths. Match, 100 soya. b. ft. First half of Ab.M. Mr. Thornhill's Crutch, Sst 91b Mr. I'erkins's f. by The Flier, 7st. 111 b. Won by nearly a length. Sweepstakes of 50 soya. each, h. ft. New T.Y.C. Mr. Cooke's Harold, 4 yrs, Bst. 811)....(Wheatley) 1 Mr. F. Mills's Clio, 3 yrs, 7st Lord Jersey's Charlotte West, 3 yrs, Sst 3 Mr. Scott Stonehewlr's Coiler, 4 yrs, Bst 31b 4 Won by a length. Match, 200 sors. h. ft. RM. Lord Chesterfield's Titania, Sst. 91b 1 Lord Tavistock's Red Rover, Bst. 21b. Handicap Sweepstakes of 10 soya. each ; all ages. D.lll Lord Exeter's Augustus, 3 yrs, 9st. 71b. Lord Worcester's Carthago, agitd, 9st. 101 b. 9 Sweepstakes of 100 sots. each, h. ft. for fillic Duke of Grafton's Oxygen, by Einilius, walked over. Match, 300 rovs, h. ft. A.F. Sir M. Wood's Cetus, Sst. Sib. rec. ft. from Mr. Grant's Balkan, Sst Mitch, 200 toys. h. ft. Half of Ah.M. Mr. Thornhill's Crutch, 91. t. 31b. rec. ft. from Mr. Gully's b. f. Florentine, Est. 101 b. LONDON MARKETS. COAL MAlti Adair's 21s. od. Benshair. Main - 21 0 Dean'.: Yrimrosc 23 0 East Percy.. 2l 9 Felling Main 22 0 Hebburn Main ..- 27 0 Hnly« ell 24 0 Ord's Iledhugh 21 0 Pelaw . 2i 0 Percy Bensham ... 25 0 Polito') Windsor--.., 21 9 li.hippte- ET.—April 15. Walls end Newniareh... 265. Pd. Ditto I'erkins and Co.— 25 Ditto P hide ll's 28 6 Walls End Russell's...... 28 6 Ditto, to deliver at _.27 6 Ditto Walkm 27 6 Lambton Primrose 27 6 Walls End Hetton 31 0 Walls End Lambton 3O 3 Walls End Lyons 2B 0 Walls End Stewart's —3l 0 Norwood's Hetton '25 3 W. E. Etherley unser. 24 0 Walls End 2 0 Cowpen 23 6 Smithson's 20 0 Hartley '26 0 Landshipping--- 46 0 New Flockton, Milne and Co. 20 6 Silkstoue Field ' 2 .2 6 Wall's End Elgin '23 0 Walls End Selbp 20 6 Shipeote Trader— 21 0 Walls End Tees Trader 27 6 Callerton and Montague mixed 17 0 sold. 156 M. 2'2 0 . - - ---------- _ South Holywell 2) 6 fantiehl —25 0 Townlev--...... 2d 0 West Hartley 23 6 Willington .27 0 Wylam 24 0 WallsEndßewieke&Co. '29 0 Ditto Bell Ronson & Co. 'fir 6 Walls End Brown's,— 2.5 0 Walls End Callerton— 21 0 Walls End ('arr and Co. 24 6 Ditto Clarke and Co. «. 23 6 Ditto Cramlington......., 22 0 Ditto Heaton 6 Walls End Hilda 21 0 Walls End Hotspur— 25 6 Ditto Northumberland 25 3 ships at market, 203—Ships MR. HUNT.—We should imagine that all those persons who have been hitherto so far deceived as to suppose Mr. HUNT an honest reformer will now have their eyes pretty well opened by the course which that gentleman has lately thought proper to take with refe rence to the Reform Bill. A more dishonest and disin genuous course was certainly never adopted by any poli tician than that which Mr. HUNT is reported to have taken in the House of Commons during the present week. Not venturing directly to oppose the Bill, he has yet en deavoured to do it all the mischief in his power, which, fortunately, is not much. Of course we do not know whether Mr. AUNT has really uttered all that we find reported of him in the London newspapers; but if he has said, as the newspapers state, that the people of Lancashire are hostile to the Bill, he has uttered one of the most shameless and audacious falsehoods that ever was uttered. The opinions of the inha bitants of Manchester, and of almost every town in the county, have been manifested by public meetings and peti tions, in which the labouring classes, much to their credit, joined as heartily as their richer neighbours. The fact is, Mr. HUNT is disappointed that he was no where invited to become a candidate under a reformed system of repre sentation. To obtain such an invitation was the manifest object of his speech at Manchester ; and he was evidently much annoyed when the mob refused to take the broad hints which he threw out to them. The fact is, that Mr. HUNT feels his influence decline in proportion as Parliamentary Reform becomes probable ; and he therefore hates Reform., Under a proper system of representation there would be no demand for demagogues. They are the creatures of a vicious and unjust system, and they would hill with it. —Manchester Guardian. His Royal Highness the Duke of SUSSEX presented petitions in favour of Reform from Hamme l smith, Ken sington, Halifax, and St. Luke's, Middlesex. • The Earl of HAREWOOD presented petitions from two places in Yorkshire, against the Register Bill ; one stat e d, that throughout Yorkshire there were not twenty persons who were not opposed to •that measure. The Noble Earl also presented a petition from Kingston-upon-Hull, against the monopoly of the East India Company ; and a petition from the worsted spinners of Yorkshire, against some part of the Bill for regulating the hours of working in factories Lord SUFFIELD presented petitions from severa I places in Norfolk against slavery. MINISTERIAL PLAN OF REFORNI. The Earl of CARLISLE presented a petition from Had dington, in fay , ur of the Reform Bill. Viscount HOOD presented a similar petition from the ' county of Warwick. The Earl of WARWICK had no objection to receive the petition; but he wished it to be enderstood that it was signed only by the High Sheriff, and did not represent the sentiments of the whole county of Warwick. The Earl of Eldon rose to say a few words, but gave way to Lord CALTHORPE, who expressed his regret that a measure of such importance, casting a stigma on both Houses of Parliament should have beets brought for ward without due deliberation. It was a measure requir ing the most patient attention and the greatest care— and this measure, it appeared, had received neither. He regretted, too, that, on such a measure, any allusioh should ever have been made to the Sovereign, to promote a measure that demanded the greatest coolness. He la mented, also, that it should have been propounded to the people when in a state of excitement, so that they were prevented from forming a cool opinion on the subject: He begged it might be understood, that, in making these remarks, he had no hostility to the Ministers ; but he wished their scheme, which to him appeared wild and bewildering, to lie over for another Session. The Earl of ELDON was not going to discuss the Re form Bill, when the only question before the Ilonse was whether or not the petition, should be received. He wished there.s3 observe that the whole of their. Lordships' proceedings, its rehition to the Bill Own kefore the other House, bad been more irregular than anythinglthari ever known in the whole course of his Parliamentary life. He would not enter into any arguments on the subject ; be would only say that be hoped their Lordships would take care how such irregular conduct was drawn in to become a precedent ; and to prevent this, when the present motion was disposed of, he would submit a proposition to their Lordships. The• Earl of WALSINGILAM declared himself opposed to every kind and species of disfranchisement. The Earl of HAREWOOD did not mean to discuss the subject to which the petition related ; but there were some matters connected with the conduct held with regard to that Bill, which he thought it his duty, as a Peer and a subject, to advert to. The Bill had been proposed to the House by the Government in a complete state of excite ment, and when the people were also in a state of excite ment and means had been used to make them come to a conclusion on these important matters which they would not have formed under the influence of a calm judgment. That House, too, had heard—and very sorry be was that it ever had heard—something in the nature of a threat di rected against both Houses of Parliament. The other House of Parliament had been threatened with a dissolution, and that House, though not threatened with a dissolution and re-election, had had intimated to it that there was danger t o th a t House in refusing its consent to the measure. He did think, for any purpose, to make use of such threats was very disrespectful. It was impossible also for the Government to t c l a i r r t y h e on p a r business oceei iing s of o t f ba t t he nat i u ,i r e e , , and tl not be r a e e s t s i , uai he n r ted wie spected in common with other men ; but, at the Caine time, if he were a Member of the Government, and found that Press advocating his cause in a manner that threat ened the existence of the Parliament, and almost the safety of the Crown, could he allow the Press FO to pro ceed ? He would not say that he would stop it by coming into collision with its proceedings; but he should think it his duty, in that situation, at least, to disclaim the argu ments by which the Press was supporting his cause. A measure of that nature, perhaps, ought not to be brought forward at a time of such discontent ; and it was the duty of the Government not to have proposed such a measure, when the country was in a state of excitement from causes external to the country ; but they ought to have waited till the country was restored to a state of satisfaction. He was old enough to remember former times. In looking at the subject now moved, he found himself carried back to former tunes and general principles. He was old enough to remember what passed after the first French revolution—(Hear, hear)—and there were many circumstances now in con nection with this Bill, not dissimilar to those of that pe tiered it his sefdiag - oary A orlutr.E—rml ,- ..whielL lie COnSi conceive any person who would be willing to risk the great injury to the country which the present opportu nity of the excited state of the public mind, from extra ordinary circumstances afforded, to bring forward a mea sure of that kind which had not been sufficiently consi dered. Was it a time to take advantage of that excite ment ?—(Hear, hear.) The Noble and Learned Lord (the Lord Chancellor) knew the transactions which had occurred in a county with which they were both then con nected. He admired that Noble Lord's great ability, and knew the great extent of his general information, and he had been anxious to hear his explanation, and know what plan of Reform he recommended. He was pleased then to hear the Noble and Learned Lord propose a plan which he conceived went to remedy the de fects of the representation. The Noble and Learned Lord described himself as the champion of Reform, and he had stated that he would be ready to give one Member to such a number of vote's as would enable the elections to he concluded within a reasonable time, and avoid the expence and inconvenience that now accrued from a protracted contest. He spoke, too, of doing away out-voters, and giving votes to copyholders. Those were, he believed, the chief alterations then proposed by the Noble and Learned Lord. He wished to ask why the Noble and Learned Lord now agreed to a measure so different from the one he had formerly recommended ? Whether that Noble and Learned Lord had changed his former opinion or not, was not for him to say. Such a Bill, though received favour ably by the public, had created great confusion throughout the country, and seemed to him a premature and unpre pared measure. The more be examined it, the more he was confirmed in this opinion. He begged pardon for say ing one word on the subject, but it excited in him great interest, and weighed upon his mind. He believed that discussion would throw light upon it, and make the people better understand it. He was not any enemy to altera tions if made at suitable times, but be could not support the Reform Bill. The Noble Lord concluded by declar ing that his opinions were not either on that or any other subject formed with a view to popularity. Earl GREY agreed entirely with the Noble Earl in one thing. He certainly thought that the measure could only gain by discussion. To discussion at a proper time he was not averse; and though he lid not like the irregula rity alluded to by his Noble Friend on the cross benches (the Earl of Eldon), an irregularity he had admitted, and stated it to be irregular ; yet, when he found in the House a disposition be entertain the question, and even urgently to discuss it, he did not think himself precluded from availing himself of that opportunity to ♦indicate the mea sure, for which he and his colleagues stood responsible, and to en , leavotir to remove the mi - s-oprebenainn to which it was liable. He was the last man to impute to the Noble Earl any desire of popularity in what he 11.. id paid, awl he was almost at a loss to know what had induced the Noble Lord to enter into a justification of what he had said against a supposition of that nature. Undoubtedly, popularity had never been sought by the Noble Lord, and he must there fore cozgratulate him and the public on one good effect which the Bill 'wit! produced. The Noble Lord, until this moment, had on every occasion when this question had preserved itself for considaration, whether the measure of Reform proposed were of an extensive or a limited na ture—whether it were confined to disfranchise a single borough, or give representatives to large towns—he be lieved that till that night no man in the country had ever heard the Noble Lord acknowledge himself an advocate for Reform under any circumstances, at any time, or iu any degree whatever, or confess that he considered it in any manner proper or necessary—(hear, hear)—or was prepared to give any plan of Reform his assent.—(Hear, hear.) Among the other important effects of the Bill in the country, he was entitled to say, that it had the good effect of producing a conviction in the Noble Lord's mind that some Reform was necessary, and that he was dis posed to agree to the plan proposed by his Noble Friend on the Woolsack, which he regretted his Noble Friend had not been allowed to bring forward in the House of Commons, so that they might have seen how many of the persons would have supported that Bill, who till ibis went had made no such declarations as that avowed special t in h e e as N u o r l e ile of L ß or e d fo , rat H t e be sh isi ou o l b d le li L ke or, t i o w t . u 7 s , oT wh p ::: ret . isP ai - e l sure, but one or two n it mean then to th r' inv i nt l ,a s d could not suffer to pass an g Noble tes:ssewtanted which he