The Sun. — London, England, 1861-09-21 00:00:00

LAST WEEK BUT THREE OF ALFRED MELTON'S PROMENADE CONCERTS. THEATRE ROYAL, COVENT-GARDEN. THE GRAND VOLUNTEER NIGHT THIS EVENING. Vocalists PAREPA, Mdlle. LANCIA, Madame LAURA BAXTER, Miss S. COLE, Mr. WEISS, and Mr. VE itN ON RIGBY. Grand Selection from "Dinprah "—Grand Operatic Selec tion, "Robert le Diable "—New Volunteer March and Part Song—Beethoven's BATTLE Symphony, performed by the Orchestra and the Bands of the Victoria Rifles and the City of London Rifle Brigade.—Overtures, Quadrilles, Polkas, Waltzes, Galops, Songs, Solos, tc., Commence every Evening. at 8. Promenade, is. Conductor, Mr. ALFRED MELLON. - On Monday next an ENGLISH NIGHT. TBEATRE-ROYAL, HAYMARKET, Lessee, Mr. J. B. Buckstone. THIS EVENING, the nertormanoes win annul FAINT HEART NEVER WON FAIR LADY. After which, a new Comedy, entitled THE SOFT SEX. Mr. C. Mathews, Mr. B uc k stone. Slr. Compton, Mr. E.Villiers , Mrs. Charles Mathews, Mrs. Wilkins, &o. With THE CRITIC: Mr. C. Mathews. To conclude with the Ballet, BACCHUS AND ARIADNE ° Commenoe a 7 ROYAL LYCEUM THEATRE. Manager—Mr. Edmund Falconer. THIS EVENING, at Eight o'clock, the new and suc cessful comedy, WOMAN - or. Love against the World. Characters by Messrs. Walter Lacy, Addison, Herman Vezin, J. Robins, Mrs. Charles Young, Mrs. Weston, Miss Murray, and Miss Lydia Thomson. Preceded by, each evening, the new and original farce, entitled THE FETCHES; or, The Onconvanlence of Single Life. Tim O'Reilly, Mr. Edmund Falconer ; Mary O'Grady, Miss Lydia Thompson. Prices as usual. Doors open at half-past 6, tO commence at • 7 Box-office open daily from 11 till 5. THEATRE-ROYAL, ADELPHI _ N p - -w Sole Proprietor and Manager, Mr. B. Webster. Thish COLLEEN BAWNh_eatre will RE-OPEN MONDAY, Septemb er 2l CO m and Mrs. Dion Boucicault will re-appear in This Drama will be played fora limited number of nights durin , the preparation of the new American Drama, by Mr. p. Boucicault, entitled THE OCTOROON; or, LIFE IN LOUISIANA. Box-office open daily. NVERBURY HALL CONCERTS, AND FINE ARTS GALLERY. air. SAM COWELL every Evening at Nine and a quarter to ElPven.—Also, Grand Selections from TROVATORE, TRAVIATA, NORMA, MARTHA, dm., by Miss Russell, MISS Ernst, Mr. Herbert, Signor Tivoli, Mr. Morley, and a powerful Chorus. The Comic department comprises Messrs. Harvey and French, "The Nerves " Mr. Marshall—Mr. Wood and his talented Son and Miss Harriet Coveney. New Opera by Aubcr, LA CIRCASSIENNE.—A Grand Selection, arranr , ed and conducted by Mr. Jonghmans, from this Opera will be produced, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THIS COUNTRY, on MONDAY next. Principal Artistes—Miss Russell, Mr. Herbert, and Signor Tivoli. Musical Director, Mr. Jonghmans. Admission—Hall, 6d.; Stalls and Balcony, is, T HE. 0 X FORD, 6, OXFORD -STREET. EVERY EVENING. A Grand Selection from Verdi's new opera, " Simon Boo canegra" (now produced for the first time in this country), by Itis4 Russell, Messrs. C. Greville, Tivoli, Greene, 'Worley, and Herbert ; also from Verdi's " Macbeth " by Madame Enderssohn and the entire Company. Full band and chorus. Conductor, Mr. F. Jonghmans. Varied Comic entertain /cents by Messrs. M. P. Foster, Sam Collins, Harvey and French (the Nerves), E. Marshall, and W. Randall. Hall, sixpence; Balcony and Stalls, one shilling. Private Boxes, 10s. 6d. HIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE. This DAY.—Morning, 3h.' Bm.—Afternoon, 3h. 24m. To-Ntounow.-Morning, 3h. 37m.—Afternoon, 3h. 50m. TIIE WEATHER.—SUN OFFICE, SEPTEMBER 21, 1861, THERMOMETER, IN TIER BRAM. 64—highest since noon yesterday.' 46 —lowest this morning and during the night. 61—this day at noon. BanomETER-20.82 , a fall of of an inch since Thurs day. WrxD—South-Westerly—light ; with cloudy weather, and some slight showers. Two o'ctocx.—Wind, South-West ; fresh, with heavy showers. . 44 % 14. 4 P ^‘l2 q :S? 4 1-!' 0110:i. 1 1 . • ta :1! " • THE SUN. LONDON, SATURDAY, SEPT. 21, 1881. At length we may congratulate ourselves on having a worthy representative of the Iron of England fairly afloat on the great waters. The Warrior has quitted the Thames, and is now in the great naval station of the country, all but ready for any work that might be assigned her. Hitherto, indeed, all has been both smooth and plaid sailing► for her. One exception, indeed must be made to the latter—for sailing, or rather steering, out of the Thames was very crooked work. The channel was so full of craft, which her touch would have smashed and sent to the bottom, that nothing but the perfect response to the helm of the vast mass of iron saved them from destruction, or the mighty vessel from get- ting aground. This difficulty completely de monstrated one capability of the Warrior. Should it be imperative for her to force an entrance into an enemy's harbour, the most in- tricate passage with depth enough of water wil not hinder her progress. Heedless of balls, which will rattle off her iron casing, of shells, which will smash themselves on it, and of even molten iron which cannot set cold iron on fire, she will hold on her winding way till she has done the work assigned her. So smooth was the water all the voyage that no fair conception can yet be formed of what will be her behaviour in a storm. We have just had a sad warning not to trust too much the verdict of ordi- nary seas and rough weather, in this respect. Still we have no fear that tha Warrior will disappoint us. Her hold on the water, and the power of her rudder seem to be equal to placing her in the position to breast the hurricane like a petrel, and we shall hope teat such will be the result of actual trial. Lightly buoyantly she moved over such swell as she had to encounter, and an Atlantic gale will, we trust, only illustrate still more satisfactorily the same qualities. Sixteen miles an hour is the speed which may fairly be expected of her; fourteen and a half she has done with a foul bottom, and the launching cleats still attached to her. With her armament she is not a vessel to need taking up a safe distance from an antagonist, whom she may pound at her leisure, but her speed will enable her to overtake the fugitives who might be but too happy to evade her two 100-pounder Armstrongs, and her thirty-six 68-pounders of 05 cwt. The power of her arma ment La Gloire will certainly never test if she can help it. One point of no little practical importance in an engagement was established. Her small ports—small to protect the gunners inside—instead of keeping in the smoke, kept it out; and the weather being so calm, the maindeck was actually clear of smoke while the cloud still enveloped the spar deck. The engines seem to be beyond all praise. Their enormous power, little short, if needed, of 6,000 horses ; their smooth and noiseless working from the first; the consequent absence of vibration in the solid sides of the hull of the huge vessel ; the sinr-2!icity of the machinery, the magnitude anti irresistible motion of whose parts approaches the awful or :sublime, leave nothing to be desired. 'WI at this mechanical omnipotence is, may be partly conceived from the ftset that they have to start from a state of rest, and to impel, at a speed of 16 miles ant hour, a total weight of ab3ut 9,000 tens, and that too against the resistance of the water in which she lies to a depth of 26 feet and upwards. One mighty scre w is the fish-tail through which this power ope rates on the element in which it is immersed, and which Propels the giant and solid mass with a force which, w e may well believe, would send to the bottom any a • hip of an enemy against whom she THE SETNi LONDON, SATURDAY EVENIN6, SEPTEAIBER 21, 1861. could fairly.?mmlNWOlvaimiittle doubt that could the Warrior run into La Gloire amidships her glory would at once go to the bottom. What next ? The last news from America is the most remarkable of all. " A great sensation among diplomatic circles" is indeed nothing wonderful, when we learn that the CZAR has written a letter to the President—the Autocrat of all the Russias to the elect of half the once United States. The telegraph assures us, however, that such is the fact, and that the letter " is in favour of the Union," and "recommends peace " How the advice will be re ceived by either the North or the South; and whether it is proferred in consequence of any secret arrangements at St. Petersburg with the great Mr. CLAY, who gave us such a wholesome lesson, while on his way to the Russian capital, no one yet can tell. One thing we may be permitted to believe, that the most friendly advice, if impartial, from the Govern ment of this country would have been looked on as an impertinence, and we should have probably been told that we might advise, if we pleased, such powers as Belgium, or Naples, or Switzerland, but that the mighty American Union, or Two Unions, needed no advice from England. Russia, however, need not fear a rude reply— that is, not one intentionally rude, for we are by no means sure that any American Government un derstands good breeding enough to keep clear of improprieties, even when it does not wish to be guilty of them. The idea that they are by far the greatest nation on the earth has become so habitual with Americans, that they can hardly deal with foreign countries without in some way allowing the offensive quality to appear. Their very attempts at modesty and dignity betray their self-conceit. To a CZAR, however, they are sure to behave as well as they know how. Indeed, they regard themselves as a nation of Czars—a rather inconve nient notion at times, and one which Bull's Run has taught them must be kept in abeyance, at least in times of war. Still, a man who does just as he likes, with small regard to others' rights and con veniences, is one with whom any Yankee member of ITS MAJESTY THE MOB, or any Southern slave holder, can naturally sympathise. Their notions of neum and tuum are essentially alike ; and if one has his Poland, the other can point to its Texas and the pounds of territorial flesh cut off from a martyr's zeal, he took up the cause,in the House of Commons—Protestantism versus Maynooth, or rather the Maynooth Grant ; though we are by no means sure that the men who take away the grant leaving Protestant endowments at the same time where they are, would not willingly burn Maynooth to the ground, and, perhaps, throw its inmates into the fire, had not their own tempers shared the humane sentiments of an age which discusses the expediency of hanging even murderers. But theolo gical zealots never lack logic. Granted that all murderers, and that a fortiori soul murderers, ought to suffer capital punishment, then it stands thus— with All murderers ought to be hung ; Popish teaching is that worst of murders, soul murder ; Therefore all Popish teachers ought to be hung. What Protestant who does not follow Mr. EWART on the subject of capital punishments can deny the validity of the Orange syllogism. Of course Papists might have something to quibble about in the second term, but then we never let the murderer or even the thief define what is murder or theft. How then any Protestant can be so illogical, that, if he will not hang or burn the soul murderers, he will not even prevent them from murdering, it quite passes the clear comprehension of Mr. WHALLEY and his Tory Orange friends to con ceive. To them the whole subject is so clear that a Protestant community must be wilfully blind not to see with them. The prospect from Trem Tower is not on a bright day more open to the view, than the self-evidencing argu ments which prove that Maynooth ought to be razed to the ground, and the endowment bestowed on the pauper Episcopal Church of Ireland— pauper, of course, we mean, in the numbers of her children. But this Trem Tower is the centre of the story— some of our readers may be so ignorant as to have read much and travelled a little too, but not to know Trem Tower. Let them learn then that it is a tower situated on a hill belonging to Mr. WHALLEY'S beautiful seat at Ruabon. It is what, in many cases, is called "a Folly" but Trem Tower will not be so ;as suredly. It seems the Orangemen in Liverpool and its neighbourhood determined on having an " out." Mr. WHALLEY'S park was admirably adapted for the spree. Thither they repair with bands and banners, sashes and rosettes, as is their wont—form in a circle in front of the house— and after Brother RICHARD HOLMES, D.P.G.M., had duly anointed Mr. WHALLEY parlia mentary prophet, in the room of Mr. SPOONER, superannuated, and :Mr. WHALLEY had delivered a heavy, humble, yet hopeful address OA the present madness, and probably early death, of Popery, all the party, flags, drums, ser pents, &c., &c., moved off in triumph to Trem Tower. Mexico. The CZAR has one good title to be an adviser. He is a serf-emancipator. He, and even NICHOLAS, foresaw the danger of a slave population, and its effect in retarding the agriculture and commerce of the country. The Czars, to do them justice, needed no "Helper's Impending Crisis," to teach them that an empire tilled by compulsory labour, could never equal, much less rival those nations in which each man enjoyed the fruits of his own industry. The Czars saw also in the Crimea the difference between military freemen and mili tary bondsmen, and they were wise enough to resolve that in future Russian soldiers should fight for their own lands and homesteads, and should be not only ready to stand and be shot at wherever the Czar ordered them, but should be fired with a freeman's zeal to repel invaders from his country's F I shores. "In the multitude of counsellers there lacketh not wisdom." So after proper consultation with many gentlemen, forth came the proprietor of Trem Folly—Tower, we mean—and declared it to be thenceforth dedicated to the furtherance of Protestantism, All true Protestants were to be free of it from that day forth for lectures or any other performance, which could further the interests of Protestantism. We should think Sir CULLING EARDLEY and his Evan gelical Alliance would find it a " nice" place to hold one of their meetings in. We have little doubt that Mr. WHALLEY'S hospitality, and a visit to a pleasant spot in Wales, would get together a goodly meeting any day. At any rate, Trem Tower now stands the rival fortress to Maynooth, happily at a distance so safe that the tenants of each will not come into personal collision with each other. The Orange bands may leave their pistols at home while parading about Ruabon park, and will be in no danger of an attack with stones, even if they play their favourite air, " Crop pies lie down." We may hope ALEXANDER 11. has confidentially, f not in a public document, adverted to this sub ect in his communications to the Americans. He writes to a republic which openly professes that "all men beneath its flag are born free and equal," and that they have "certain inalienable rights, among which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." He may properly remind them of the mischievous oversight they have committed in "alienating" so long what they have declared to be " inalienable." He might point to the eco nomical difference between the two sections of the Union, to the present quarrel, to the moral judgment of Christendom, to the certainty that in the long run millions of coloured men must gain the upperhand, and take by force what was refused to justice. He might tell them too how much cheaper it would be to compensate for all the slaves, than carry on a long and wasting war, Nothing in deed could be easier than for a mediating CZAR to show both to North and South, that they would be immense gainers by agreeing to unite again on the bases of emancipation and compensation for slaves. The struggle of nearly a century would be then closed for ever. Trade and commerce would• find their home as naturally in the South as in the North. The parties in Congress would be no longer geographical, but based on those natural differences of opinion which are inevitable in all educated com munities ; and the vast Union might then become really a Union, and enter on a course of rivalry in the arts of peace with all the nations of the earth. The concomitant news with that, however, which has called forth these remarks, is still all of war. Loans, not to purchase emancipation, but to pay for soldiers, whom the North will be compelled to make emancipators, are still one prominent item. Mr. CHASE, we are told, is getting on well in borrowing money at 7 3-10ths per cent. ; and if the rate of Government interest be any inducement to invest, he certainly ought not to want sub scribers. The North is also at last retaliating in good earnest on the South for confiscating debts due to the North ; and we now learn that seizures of Southern property in the Northern States are taking place on an extensive scale. Political par ties also are uniting. The Democrats at one time, since the war began, appeared to show symptoms of vacillation, but they have held a State Convention in New York, where they were strongest, and have passed resolutions recom THE SAILOR PRINCE IN LIYERPOOL. His Royal Highness Prince Alfred arrived yesterday morning by the ordinary mail train from Scotland, where the Prince had been visiting his Royal parents at Balmoral. The train reached the Limo-street station about a quarter to six o'clock. The Mayor's carriage was in waiting, and in it, ac companied by Major Cowell, his Royal Highness was con veyed to the Adelphi Hotel, where apartments had been prepared for his reception. As soon as the Prince reached his temporary residence the Royal standard was hoisted on the flag-staff at the top of the hotel. In the course of the morning the Prince was waited upon by Colonel Sir John Jones, K.C.8., and Commander South waite, and a little after ten o'clock the Mayor (S. R. Graves, Esq), arrived at the hotel in his private carriage. As the Prince wished his present visit to Liverpool to be considered a private one the corporation state carriage was not brought into requisition. A large crowd of persons assembled op posite the Adelphi Hotel to witness the departure of the Prince on his tour round the docks. The tradesmen in the immediate neighbourhood hoisted flags, and from the Waterloo Hotel, Compton House, and the Liver Esta blishment the Royal standard floated in the breeze. About 20 minutes to 11 o'clock the Prince, accompanied by the Mayor and the officers above-named, took his seat in an open carriage, and amid the cheers of the spectators drove off down Ranelagh-street on his way to the great landing stage. Here he embarked on board the steam tender Satellite, in order to view the line of docks, and visit the Conway, the Akbar, and also the Royal mail steam ship Niagara, in which he will sail to-day. His Royal Highness then inspected the Observatory, whence he proceeded in the Mayor's carriage to one of the dock warehouses, and after wards he visited St. George's Hall, the Sailors' Home, the Free Public Library, and other public buildings. His worship the Mayor gave the Royal Prince a view of " high change" about half-past three o'clock in the afternoon from the balcony of the Town Hall. In the evening his Royal Highness dined at the Town Hall with his worship the Mayor, and about 30 or 40 gentlemen, to whom his worship had issued invitations. Amongst the invited guests were the Right Hon. the Earl of Derby, the Earl of Sefton, Sir Edward Cast, &c. mending the vigorous prosecution of the war. The account given of the armies is also alto gether warlike. The number of the Confederate A SCENE IN THE NEW ZEALAND PARLIAMENT. —Mr. Fox spoke for upwards of two hours. He spoke well, but it was generally thought that it was not one of his hap piest displays. While he was speaking the house presented an animated scene. Two rooms occupying the space behind the Speaker's chair were crowded with ladies, who could scarcely refrain at times from signifying their assent to or dissent from the assertions of the succeeding orators. Every foot of room not apprcpriated to members were occupied by gentlemen who had obtained Mr. Speaker's order, and the public gallery was crammed to the ceiling. Once or twice during Mr. Fox's speech there was such confusion and noise, owing to the eagerness of the crowd to obtain access to the gallery, that he was compelled to stop and appeal to the Speaker. The gallery was well filled before the business of the evening commenced, but it seems there were as many more outside anxious to get in. On a sudden they made a rush and carried the door by a coup de main. For a few moments there wag a great uproar. It was feared that some serious accidents would ensue. The denizens of the gallery thus suddenly overwhelmed by the advancing tide of h ,, u so m h, anohbepi,ngs uttered doleful cries of alarm and suff er i ng. " Oh, my leg I" " Police I" " Oh, I'm crushed! My arm I Oh I" The House rose in agitation, and for a short time it was thought that order could not be restored; but at last the police succeeded in closing the door again ; and, though a sufficient number of persons had forced their way in to make a seat in the gallery a mere figure of speech —the occupants being now jammed together like herrings in . a barrel — or d er was at length restored. The debate, w.lich commenced on Wednesday evening at 5 o'clock, lasted until about the same hour on Friday, when the house di vided, and the motion was carried by a majority of one. I shall not be able to tell you what course Ministers will adopt, as the House does not meet again till Tuesday. The mail will leave today. It is said that the majority of one would not have been obtained had the debate been pro longed another hour. A vessel was coming up the harbour having on board a newly elected member. Somehow or other it was ascertained that he was a voter for Govern ment. Mr. Fos his hands with this Fos wasspeaking•isnigureipfile;yut Ahiuslti—,4 slip of Cut pa it per So our advanced-Lib era l friend, Mr. WUALLEY, was put into . short. has arrived, and will be here directly." Ac member for Peterborough, has been solemnly in - cordingly he did cut it short, and thereby gained hs majo vested with the mantle just droppe dby our s taunch r it y o f one I—(Auckland Correspondent of the Arm Zca- Tory old friend Mr. SPOONER. 14,st session, with ‘ and ,Examiner.) force opposite Washington is given at 125,000 men, an army which, if BEAUREGARD has not thrown a way his time for training it, will not be routed in a battle or two, even if it should be b eaten. As to the following part of the telegram, we c ou ld h ave wished the framers of the telegrams had studied COBBETT'S grammar on the pronouns, had th e sen tences been of very great importance. For we do not feel very sure of the reference, though we sup pose the word " they" to refer to the Confederate rorces. The more so, because it was affirmed tnat the Confederate army was in great wan' of provisions. But when it iE added that ~ an - . immediate attack is intended," we are compelled to ask—by whom ? Do the Confederates, because they are strong and well-fed, intend to attack M'CLELLAN and Washington. Or does M'CLEL• LAN mean to attack them. There have been so many ruizours both ways, that no mortal can guess. The difference is the probable repulse of the attacking party. But as ewe have no reason to think there is more in the rumour than in so many of its predecessors, wo need not try to conjecture what the facts are. By sea the block ade is still imperfect, at least a ship from Liver- pool, the Gordon, is said to have arrived at Beaufort, we presume the place of that name in North Carolina, and not far South of Pamlico Sound, the scene of the late naval - triumph. LAI EST NEWS. AMERICA. (LATEST BY TELEGRAPH via CAPE RACE.) NEW YORK, SEPT. 10. The Emperor of Russia has addressed a letter to the American Government in favour of the Ameri can Union, and recommending peace. This letter has created a great sensation in diplo matic circles. The report of the death of President Jefferson Davis is still unconfirmed. Military matters remain unchanged. Preparations for fresh naval expeditions are being made. COMMERCIAL INTELLIGENCE. Stocks steady. Illinois, 671-; New York Central, 731 ; Erie, 26. Exchange on London, 108. Cotton firm and quiet. Flour and wheat firm. Provisions dull. PARIS, SEPT. 20. The Patrie of this evening says : " The Kiug of Holland is expected to arrive in France about Oct. 15." The Pays of this evening asserts that the Duke de Magenta will represent the Emperor at Konigs berg. 3 23 P.M. The Bourse has been firm, with very little busi DGSS. Rentes closed at 69f. 250., or sc. higher than yesterday. SOUTHAMPTON, SEPT. 21. The Hamburg and American Company's steamer Teutonia, from New York on the 7th inst., has ar rived off Cowes. She brings 166 passengers for Hamburg, Havre, and Southampton, and 600 dols. in specie for Ham burg. On the 11th inst. she spoke the steamer City of Manchester, bound west. The African, from Liverpool, passed Cape Race on the 10th inst. The North Briton arrived off Father Point on the 10th inst. ATHENS, SEPT. 20. The following fresh details have now transpired respecting the attempted assassination of the Queen of Greece. The miscreant is a student, named Durios, 17 years of age. The weapon he used was a revolver. On being arrested he declared that he had no accomplices. The Queen displayed great coolness, and visited the Arsenal on the day following the attempt. VIENNA, SEPT. 21. The Archduke Ferdinand Maximilian took part in the last Ministerial Council, in reference to the `War Marine, a considerable increase in which may be anticipated. CRACOW, SEPT. 20. On the proposition of the Governor of Poland, the Administrative Council of Warsaw has resolved to declare the city in a state of siege should the disturbances be renewed. Yesterday the clergy in their sermons condemned the recent excesses com mitted in Warsaw. The maintenance of order is now probable. WARSAW, SEPT. 20. The municipal elections are appointed to take place on tho 25th inst. THE HAGUE, SEPT. 20. During the discussion in the Chamber of Deputies to-day on the Address in reply to the King's Speech, the Minister for Foreign Affairs stated that the Government had recognised Victor Emmanuel as King of Italy, and had already announced this act in the Official Gazette, in the same manner as when Holland recognised the present Emperor of the French. The Minister further said—" If in the Speech from the Throne the King was silent o❑ this point, it was only because he wished, in case of difference of opinion, to avoid wounding the susceptibilities of some of the members of the house." RAGUSA, SEPT. 20. A meeting has been held by the principal Alba nian chiefs in order to decide upon their course of action in the struggle now going on between the Turks and ther,Montenegrins.lt is believed that they will proclaim a neutrality. ATHENS, SEPT. 19. Yesterday evening, at 9 o'clock, a student fired on the Queen in the Palace Square. The weapon, however, missed its aim. The student has been arrested. General indignation is felt at this attempt. Per fect tranquillity prevails. BOMBAY, AUG. 28. There is n o political news of importance. COM MERCIAL INTELLIGENCE. Cotton,—Broach 170, nominal. Twist improv ing. Shirtings dull and declining. Money plentiful. Discount unaltered. Government Securities.—Fours, 821; Fives, 951; Fives-andra-half, 1022, Exchange orr London, 2s. OZ-d. Freights, 555. to 575. 6d. CALCUTTA, AUG. 24. (BY TELEGRAPH TO BOMBAY.) Shirtings active, but unchanged in price. Twists advancing. Indigo prospects continue bad. Lin seed advancing; slow sales. Saltpetre firmer. Copper sheathing and tile, fair inquiry; but prices barely maintained. Silk dull. Government Securities—Fives, 1011 to 1012. Exchange on London, 2s. Old, Discount unal tered. Freight, 555. FRANCE. BOURSE, Sept. 20.—The reduction in the rate of discount by the Bank of England has not pro duced any effect beyond giving firmness to the market, as the measure had been calculated on beforehand. Threes, for the Account, are now at 69f. 20c. Railway shares also firm. The following are the last quotations :- 41 per per Cents ... 96 20 Credit Foncier 1260 Do end month.... 96 301 Belgian '4i lolk 3 per Cents Do. end month 69 25 Roman Bank Shares 2930 —1 Austrian Credit 768 75 ' Spanish Threes — Do. Account 770 —; Home Debt RAILWAYS. Cash. Account. Orleans 1422 50 .. 1425 Northern 991 25 .. 992 50 New ditto 915 Lyons and Mediterranean 1031 .. 1031 25 Geneva 350 352 50 Southern ...... . 660 .. 662 50 Western. Eastern .......... 610 .. 611 25 Sardinian ........ 365 Austrian ........ 520 .. 518 75 Lombard WIRTEMBERG. The Chamber of Representatives of Wirtemberg have passed almost unanimou,sly, by 80 votes Against 1, the law which gives X 6198 and Dissenters the same political rights as those exercised by other citizens. HOLLAND. It is reported from the Hague that the King of Holland will visit the Emperor Napoleon at Com peigne about the 15th of October. THE PENINSULAR MAILS. SOUTHAMPTON, SATURDAY MORNING. The Peninsular and Oriental Company's screw steamer Sultan, Capt. Neil Cook, has arrived, with mails in charge of Lieut. Brock, R.N., naval mail agent. This vessel left Lisbon at 9.5 a.m. on the 17th instant, Oporto at 3.22 a.m. on the 18th, and Vigo at 1.10 p.m. on the 18th. From Lisbon to Vigo she had light airs and fine weather; thence to Ushant calm and fine the first part, followed by squally weather, with occasional showers of rain, and subsequently north-westerly breeze, overcast, and squalls of rain at times. The Sultan brought 9 first and 8 second class passengers, £11,216 10s. 6d. in specie, 32 packages of elephants' teeth, 581 boxes of grapes, 6 boxes of pomegranates, 394 bags of almonds, 71 boxes, green fruit, 50 boxes tomatoes, 93 boxes of eggs, 350 boxes of lemons, 25 boxes of apples, 3 packages plants, 1 cask of wine, 9 packages of general mer chandise, and 18 live bullocks. At one p.m. on the 17th the Sultan spoke the steamship Tiber, steering to the northward; at 2,55 p.m. on the 19th, the steamship Tagus, bound hence to Vigo ; and at 5.30 p.m. on the 20th the ship Argo, steering by the wind. The Sultan brings dates of the 17th from Lisbon, when the only foreign vessels of war in the Tagus were the French steamer Coligny and the Brazilian corvette Bahiana. On the 12th the marriage of the Princess D'An tonia with Prince Leopold Hohenzollern Sigma ringen took place. They were expected to leave Lisbon the next day, for Antwerp, in the Portu guese corvette Bartholomew Dias, under the com mand of the Duke of Oporto. Lisbon exchanges, for three months, were quoted this mail :—London, 531; Paris, 530; Amsterdam, 42 Z,-; Hamburg, 48 ; Genoa, 526 ; Portuguese Three per Cent. Stock Registered, 48/, 482- ; Coupons, 481 481 ; Deferred, 40 41 ; Bank of Portugal Shares, 17 171 per cent. premium; Bank of Oporto Shares, 29 30 per cent. premium. TRIAL TRIP OF 7HE WARRIOR. The AVarrior made her first real seagoing trip on Thursday last, in a voyage from Greenhithe to Portsmouth. As far as can be judged during such a short run, over water as smooth as glass, this trial more than realised all the expectations that have been formed of this splendid vessel. It was in fact almost monotonous, from the quiet unvary ing success with which everything connected with the ship and engines worked from first to last. She answered her helm like a yacht, was most astonish ingly free from vibration or movement, even going at speed, seemed light and buoyant to the gentle swell she met with here and there, and, above all, even in her unfavourable condition as to a foul bottom and the launching cleats being on, made her way through the water faster than the average of quick seagoing mail steamers. It only wanted a stiff breeze and heavy beam sea in the Channel to make the trial perfect, but neither of these was she fortunate enough to meet. Before the middle of next month, however, she will be out of her dry dock at Portsmouth—at least, completely ready for sea—when it is stated she is to•take a cruise in search of bad weather. At such a time of the year her search far a storm is not likely to be a long one, and if it is possible to predicate anything from what she has already done, and from what may be expected from her size and power, she will puss through the last and worst of all her ordeals as triumphantly as the rest. During the time she has been moored at Green hithe a great de'd of work has been accomplished. All, or nearly all her internal fittings and arrange ments have been finished, her stores, guns, and powder got on board, and her seagoing equip ment thoroughly completed. The iron tower on her deck has been finished, but, unfortu nately, in such a rough and unworkmanlike style that it literally almost spoils the look of the vessel from the deck. This portion of the iron work was fitted by the dockyard authorities at Woolwich, and its appearance in close proximity to the beautifully finished plates of the Thames Iron Company naturally enough provoked comparisons in the highest degree unfavourable to the skill of the former. It is to be hoped that this is no crite rion of what we may expect to see in the Achilles, which they have been so long and are still so con stantly threatening to begin building at Chatham. It was not publicly known that the Warrior was to make her first trip on Thursday, and no one who saw the state of the ship on Wednesday collie: have believed that it was possible to get her to sea on the following day. Her departure, however, was imperatively neces sary, as, if she failed to take advantage of the spring tides of Thursday, there was no chance of getting into dock at Portsmouth for another fortnight at the least. But that the public might be incredulous at the Admiralty being accused of any oversight, we should be inclined to say that it was a decided blunder to build ships of the Warrior class, having only one dock large enough to repair them in, and even that only accessible once in each two weeks, The Warrior slipped from her moorings at Green hithe soon after noon on Thursday. Only Sir Frederick and Lady Grey, Admiral Elliot, Mr. Penn, the maker of the engines, Captain Ford and Mr. Roll, the contractors for the ship, with a few of the dockyard officials, were on board. There was no stir, no public excitement, no boats on the river to see the departure. So quietly was every thing managed that it was hard for those on board to know exactly when she did get under weigh, and the first public exclamation was given by the seamen riggers and workpeople on the hulk along side, who gave three tremendous cheers as the great vessel slowly and heavily moved down the stream. In an instant the crew of the Warrior swarmed into the rigging and returned the compliment in such a way as only English sailors can, and with this faint show of ceremonial the first voyage of the first and finest of our iron frigates was com menced. The Warrior was in charge of Mr. Barnes, one of the most experienced of the Government river pilots, and in the crowded state of the river it required all his skill, care, and knowledge of the stream to save Lis own charge from injury while avoiding injury to others. The Warrior averaged a depth of 25 feet 11 inches—namely, 25 feet 9 inches forward and 26 feet 3 inches aft. With a ship of such depth, length, and weight the most unremitting vigilance was necessary. Off Gravesend the river was so blocked with craft that there seemed to be only a choice of two evils—either to get the Warrior aground, or to run over some of the ships in her way. At one time the latter seemed inevitable, and nothing but the instantaneous manner in which the Warrior answered the least movement of her helm, and the care which Captain Cochrane took to see that the pilot's orders were carried out upon the word, averted the unpleasant chances. After passing Gravesend the river soon grew clear of shipping; the two tugs which had accompanied to assist in case of accident turned back, and the Warrior, fol lowed by the Admiralty yacht Vivid, was left to her own resources. Up to this time the engines had been moving easily at 34 and 36 revolutions, work- ing with a noiseless force and regularity, that, con- sidering they were then moving almost for the first time, filled every one acquainted with the ordinary ec centricities of steam machinery on these occasions with surprise. The revolutions were, therefore, now that the way was open, increased from 36 to 40; but beyond this they were not allowed to go at that time, as the ship was fast passing from fresh to salt water, during the first hour of which transi• tion the boilers generally prime fiercely, and give the engineers much trouble. Contrary, however, to what is nearly always the case. tho boileib ui the Warrior did not prime at all to speak of, and during the whole run the engines may be said to have been left entirely to themselves. Off Sheer ness Admiral Johnstone came out in the Wildfire to see the ship en route to her destination, and the Warrior saluted his flag with 15 guns from her tremendous battery of 68-pounders. Much inte rest was evinced by those on board to observe the effect of the concussion of these heavy ordnance on the great ship, and, above all, to see what founda tion there was for the rumour that her narrow ports would keep in smoke enough to almost suffocate the men on the main deck. The result, as usual, quite upset the predictions of the alarmists. The shock of each gun was sharp and sudden, but less than half of what is felt on the same occasions in wooden ships, no matter what their size. Of smoke on the main deck there was really scarcely any ; the small ports kept it out instead of in, and when the salute was over the main deck was almost entirely free, while the spar deck was wrapped in a dense ()loud. While upon the subject of her guns we may state that the Warrior has as yet only . two 100-pounder and four 40-pounder Armstrongs on her upper deck, with two 25-pounder Armstrongs for field-pieces and boat guns. The whole of her main-deck guns, 36 in number,atre all solid 68-pounders of 95c wt.:each. There is no other vessel in the world with such a terrific battery. Eight or ten of these midship guns on each side may probably hereafter be changed for 100-pounder Armstrongs, but a certain proportion of 68tpounders will always be kept, partly to throw shells filled with molten iron, and partly because there is a most decided opinion in the navy that for close range they are even better than the Arm strong itself. After passing Sheerness the* pilot proposed to anchor for the night, as there was not water enough to take the vessel with safety over the flats. Captain Cochrane, however, was not to be balked by all the flats in Europe. He knew . that it was absolutely necessary the vessel should be at Portsmouth the following day, and suggested the passage through the Swin, outside the Goodwins, by that channel the pilot was desired to take the ship. The course was accordingly kept along the Harwich side of the river, and, a light breeze spring ing up, the trysails and courses were set, not so much with a view of aiding the speed of the ship as to increas the draught up the funnels. The engines then gradually increased their speed from 40 to 48 revolutions, the steam, which had been kept as low as 151 b., was got up to 201 b., and with this, at three-fourths speed, the Warrior bowled through a sea like glass at a rate of rather over 13 knots or 14 and a-half miles an hour. When the foul con dition of the ship's bottom is considered, that the launching cleats were still fastened to her, and that the engines were only giving 48 instead of 58 revolutions, this rate of speed surpassed the most sanguine hopes. From this trial, incomplete as it was, it is now judged almost certain that her speed at the measured mile will be 14 and a-half knots, or not less than 16 statute miles an hour. The engines work really wonderfully. Their vast but simple proportions—their union of strength with lightness and even almost elegance of form—the tremendous concentration of force within the closest compass and in the smallest number of parts, and, above all, the perfect finish of the workmanship, make it impossible to survey these great machines without feelings of astonishment and almost of awe. Nominally yielding an aggregate force of 1,250 horses, their indicated power is probably little, if at all, short of 6,000 horses. Each cylinder is 9ft. 4in. in diameter, and they require for their joint service the evaporation of 16,250 gallons, or 2,600 cubic feet, of water per hour. If the reader bears in mind that every cubic foot of water yields 1,000 cuhic feet of steam, he will cease to be surprised when we say that the main steam-pipe is 2ft. Bin. across, and that a big man could not only pass down it and either of its branches into the cylinders, but thence through the passages of the slide valves into the condensers themselves. In these latter he would find himself in a two-roomed space 15ft. long by 12ft. broad and 9ft. high, each compartment supplied with a 9-ft. pipe (the size of a large street main) for condensing purposes, and with a 7-in. pipe for conveying the hot water back again to the boilers. It is difficult for the most lively imagination to realize the extent of the chemical and mechanical agencies which are in tended to operate within the limits and proportions we have thus partially indicated. To set them in motion 10 boilers are necessary, ranged five on either side of the ship, each boiler fed by four furnaces -40 in all—with a stokehole or passage between more than 12ft. wide, every boiler with a complement of 440 tubes, through which the flame passes, and capable of containing, when filled to their working level, 19 tons, or 4,256 gallons of water. Let us sup pose the 40 furnaces lighted, the 10 great boilers, each 14ft, long by 10ft. Sin. broad, and 12ft. 4in. high, all charged with water, and the steam rushing down the main pipe, mad to escape from its iron prison. It can only do so by forcing its way through the slides, pushing to and fro the huge piston, and dashing through the slide valve to be quenched in the condenser ; yet what a tremendous force is re quired to overcome even these obstacles ! The weight of the piston and the parts connecting it with the crank is no less than 13 tons, the stroke 4 feet, and the number of revolutions calculated at 50 per minute. Here, then, is a weight of 13 tons moving backwards and forwards 100 times in that brief interval, or, in fact, driven by the steam power at the rate of more than 400 feet a minute. Of course the principles of mechanism are essentially the same as those by which the smallest river steamer is propelled, but when one examines attentively the immense size and weight of a ship constructed like the Warrior, and endea yours to estimate the magnitude of the power re quired to drive her through the water at a speed of 14 knots, the difference in degree is something very difficult to realise. If by any process she could be weighed when all her stores, armaments, and equipments are completed, she would outbalence nearly 9,000 tons, or within a 1,00() tons of the weight of the Great Eastern when launching. This alone is a via inertia one would imagine sufficiently great to overcome without a resisting medium like water superadded. It has been the constant study of our greatest mechanical engineers to bring down marine engines to the smallest possible proportions, and to finish every detail in the most perfect manner, so as to reduce to a minimum the tax on the steam power required for mere engine-driving. In the man-of war they have to combine the solution of these pro blems with others equally puzzling, prominent among which is that of placing the whole appara tus so far below the water-line as to be perfectly inaccessible to shot. Hence, the concentration of parts we find in the engines of the Warrior; hence the enormous cylinders placed horizontally 7ft. below the line at which any fire of an enemy could reach them. The weight and size of the pistons might seem at first sight incompatible with the theory laid down, but the apparent lightness of them is indispensable in order to make the tremen dous steam power fully available; and, in fact, all the dimensions have been carefully regulated by this paramount consideration. As, all other things being equal, the man with the most capacious lungs will win the race, so that the marine engine which can utilise the largest volume of steam will be the best and swiftest seahorse. Surveying the con- densing apparatus, with its huge injection pipes, these scientific principles become forcibly impressed on the mind. The slides may be referred to as illustrations of the finished workmanship which characterises every portion of the machinery, and which is essential to the general result. Their surfaces are 6ft. by sft. 6 in., yet they are scraped to a true surface with extraordinary care, in order to reduce to a minimum the power exerted by the action of the eccentric in pushing them to and fro. The steam shaft is forged in one piece of malleable iron 30ft. long, and 20 inches in diameter, having two cranks in its length cut out of the solid. It i s not quite so large as the shaft of the Great Eastern's engines, but from the fact of its having two throws or cranks in it was even more difficult to make. It e ce 2 0 is a wonderful specimen of smith's work, and a grand proof of what the steam hammer has e na bl ed us to accomplish in overcoming t h a mt n oa i n c d a se : iffi ult i eosf. gun nhe metal, e7n , d tt. weighingtn diameter,abouts nlll d entirely c is 120 ft. from the engines, and is connected with the main shaft by a succession of aha# ts each 26ft. long by 18 inches in diameter. The screw alley is 9ft. wide by 7ft. high, and at the stern there is the usual well, fitted with the hoisting apparatus for raising the screw to the deck. The bearings on which the screw works are lined with lignum vitas, a very beautiful, economical, and simple ap plication, first discovered by Mr. Penn, and by which the immense cost of repairs from the effect of friction on the old brass bearings is reduced to a nominal amount. Taken altogether, the machi nery required for propulsion will weigh 890 tons —a great weight, certainly, though not so much when one remembers the power exerted by it. The consumption of coals required for full steaming will be at the rate of about 125 tons per 24 hours. Not au incident occurred to mark the short voyage of Thursday night, if we except the attempt of a very venturesome bark to cross the Warrior's bows, and which, but that the latter stopped . and re versed her engine, would have resulted most disas trously for the small craft. Towards daylight on Friday morning the weather grew very thick, with little squalls of rain, so that a wide offing was given to the land and a gun fired for a pilot, who, as usual, came up from somewhere or other five minutes after he was wanted. The Warrior then stood in towards Spithead, and made a short turn round the harbour to choose her berth, and saluted the Admiral's flag with 15 guns. There was a slight breeze blowing at the time, and the smoke from this salute on the main deck was scarcely per ceptible, even to sight. At a little before 8 o'clock the anchor was let go, and the Warrior thus accom plished her first voyage, of 220 miles (including all her slow speed in the river, three-quarters speed at sea, stoppages and delays in the offing), in rather less than 20 hours, or at the average rate of 11 knots an hour. The arrival of this noble vessel created much excitement at Portsmouth, and dur ing the morning hundreds of persons lined South sea beach, the Esplanade, and Victoria Piers and the ramparts, to view the iron-clad frigate as she lay alongside the Emerald frigate at Spithead. The latter frigate; although one of our modern vessels, appeared insignificant when contrasted with the Warrior; indeed the difference between the two ships of war almost as manifest in point of contra as between the Emerald and the Winchester, one of the old class of vessels lately lying at Spithead, Yesterday the Warrior was sig nalled to come into dock at 1 o'clock without dis charging powder. She will remain in dry dock at Portsmouth for the next fortnight at least, and then, as we have said, start on a cruise for rough weather. By the time she has undergone this last test the French will have seven iron ships afloat, if not nine. They are not vessels like the Warrior, however ; in fact, little more than corvettes plated with iron. We should be glad, nevertheless, to have one or two more of our ironsides in commis sion, though the country may fairly be congratu lated on having the Warrior ready for sea, and not less so on Capt. Cochrane being appointed to com mand her. IRELAND. DUBLIN, FRIDAY. The Lord-Lieutenant arrived at Hillsborough on Wednesday evening, on a visit to the Marquis and Marchioness of Downshire, accompanied by the Messrs. Lascelles and Captain Cochrane, aide-de camp. The Marquis and his son were waiting at the Lisburn station for the Viceregal party, who were conveyed in his carriage to Hillsborough Castle. The streets of Lisburn were full of people, who cheered his Excellency as his carriage passed. In front of the union workhouse the paupers were all drawn up. The juveniles cheered loudly and w aved their caps. As the party approached Hills borough "the joy bells of the church rang forth a merry peal," At the entrance of the town an arch spanned the street, on one side of which were the words, " Welcome to the Lord-Lieutenant ;" on the other, " Prosperity to Ireland ;" both formed of dahlias of the most attractive colours. From the windows of almost every house, says the Belfast News Letter, flags and banners wer e di s pl aye d ; i n fact, the whole fronts seemed to be covered with them. The streets were crowded with people, and as the Lord-Lieutenant passed under the arch the cheering was loud and general. There was a din ner party at the Castle in the evening, which, in addition to the Viceregal visitors, included the Lord Bishop of Down and Mrs. Knox, Lord and Lady Dufferin, Lady Erne, Lady Louisa Crichton, Lady Charlotte Chetwynd, and Miss Chetwynd. Yesterday the Viceregal party drove into Lis burn, and inspected the bleachworks of the Messrs. Richardson, where they partook of luncheon, and next visited the' damask manufactory of Mesers. Hilders and M'Canhon. There was a ball at Hills borough Castle last night. While the thriving little towns of Lisburn and Hillsborough are ringing with the joyous shouts of the industrious and contented people, and the words "Irish prosperity" are seen on floating ban ners and floral arches, all spontaneous expressions of public feeling, a voice proceeds from the dull and stationary little town of Tuam, crying that Irish prosperity is a myth. Archbishop M'Hale has addressed a letter to Lord Palmerston, written in the doleful strain of an unheeded prophet clothed in sackcloth. The evils of the Established Church, says the Jeremiad, though often denounced, have never been removed. The tenantry are constantly harassed and driven out of their homes by the unchecked cruelty of the landlords ; the faith of Catholic children is assailed by bigots; the autho rity of the Catholic Church is jealousy excluded from public institutions ; not even in Naples or in Rome, though held up by British statesmen as the worst Governments upon earth, is there a state of things embracing anomalies of a more grievous and persecuting character. The condition of the Irish people, Dr. M'Hale avers, is far below what it was at the close of the last century, for then they were protected by the franchise from capricious and unjust evictions. He says : ' "Yet, in the midst of such deplorable evils, in which there is no legal security whatever for the existence of the inhabitants, we are stunned with the hollow repetition of the prosperity of Ireland.' Should we inquire, as we will not fail to inquire, where the evidence of this prosperity is to be found, it will be difficult to afford a satisfactory reply. Ireland's prosperity may be wafted through the venal jour nals that are be ome so generally the indiscrim nate vehicles of truth or falsehood. But those who attach its proper meaning to the word, and are anxious that it givaild be realised, must feel the additional insult that is involved in their continual repetition of Ireland's prosperity. If writers in stead of such ambiguous language, the prosperi th t e y and speakers were, in precise words, to specify of its cattle rather than of its people—which, no doubt, is feeding their real meaning —then would the parrot phrase of Ire land's present prosperity be intelligible. They would then furnish clear ground for canvassint assumption that a nation .s prosperou in prsportion ash ts people are dimi nished, its agriculture contracted, and its cattle multiplied. Nor would the flippant and heartless propounders of such consolatory theories fail to find themselves at issue with every sound writer that ever discuved the principles on which the wealth of nations reposes from the days of Au gustus, who identified the growing prosperity of the empire with the increasing number of its people." The 'Prentice Boys of Derry, 20 in number, were summoned by order of the Government, for vio lating the Party Emblems Act while celebrating t he of anniversary August la s to. Y esterdaythe relief h e f c Derry ase on wa s t h h e e a t d a h t decided pettg du is e t e r d at w es a n s i! in an su ir c u ie e n ly t when den th c e e produced case was accordingly dismissed. The Rev. Mr. to justify the bench in receiving informations. The Y sess i ons, that eevi Scott, of this city, has issued a printed address to the 'Prentice Boys, exhorting them to celebrate the anniversary henceforth by holding a union prayer meeting under Walker's pillar. lie is quite serious, hut the 'Prentice Boys will probably treat the ad vice as a good joke. The Rev. Mr. Fox, Roman Catholic Chaplain of been appointed superior of his order, appointed a "representative the South Dublin Union, having chaplain" to perform his duties in the workhouse. The matter having been brought before the Poor tvohsef oa t nttn h he e iev y tf eoor ffih h are a cce e v et i e osia. gns ne not personai r s i ec t dhp t eartnpeh chaplain's ie o r, e ds del- h ur i tseot: dpgs L ti ra a saet e w tsi ihoenanngrt goatfethiaavtnhteth dheaeuynrt Commissioners, hesae e resign. The Board of Guardians to the South Union have agreed to p erm i t the ladies who are members of the Social Sci ence Association to visit the paupers in the workh ouse, The Dub/i n Evening Post has ascertained that Mr.R. Guinness Hill is not related to Mr.:Benjamin Lee Guinness, and states that Mr. Hill, who bears the Christian name of Guinness, was a relation of the late Mr. Darlev, head of the brewery firm of M essrs. parley and Nicholson, at Stillorgan. For so me years after the death of Mr. Darley and the cessation of the brewery establishment Mr. Hill carried on a malting establishment there. Some years since, as stated in the report of the proceed ings, M r . Hill mar ried, in B russe l s, Miss Burdett, a youn g l a dy of great personal att rac ti ons an d l arge fortune, the granddaughter of the late Sir Francis Burdett, for many years member for Westminster, and niece of Miss Burdett Cout's, who had taken a great interest in her welfare. 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