The Sun. — London, England, 1834-03-25 00:00:00

consequence of the continued indisposition of his lord s hi p . M r. ROBINSON also postponed, until the 2d of May, his motion for a select committee to consider of the expediency of a revision and commutation of taxes. The re mainder of the twelve o'clock sitting was devoted to the discussion of the Cambridge petition in favour of the Dissenters, which was presented by Mr- S. RICE. At the evening sitting, the ,report on the O r d nance E st i mates was f ur th er ;considered, and agreed to ; the Safford Borough Disfranchisement Bill read a third time and P as sed ; and the Hertford Borough Bill re committed, an d t h e report or d ere d to b e rece i ve d too il morrow. Th e secon d rea di ng o f th e House Apr utY Rep ea l Bill was postpone d t ill t h e 14 t h o f . ---- , 40.---- We can glean quite enough from the Paris Papers to convin ce us th a t the law against As sociations will pass the Chamber of Deputies, "mutilated, by an overwhelming majority. The °PPosition who have hotly contested every inch of t he ground, who have proposed amendment after r onendment,exception after exception, have bee n beat en at every point, so irres i st ibl e h as b ee " the mass of venal votes b roug h t to b ear g ; ai ust them. Withi n a week, therefore, from t}, ti me, the p ro j ec t w ill h a ve assumed the ; " e `mite form and authority of a law— that pro ce:t which i s severer hr its provisions than even the N r ,; sh Coe rc i ve Bill ; an d w hi ch t h e P oLiGNAc L i -inist rY, backed by th e s y m p a thies of every thi utuPean legitimate, when legitimacy was some .. n g More than a name, never ventured to pro- Pose 1 so much f or th e vaun t e d lib e rality of the ,throne of the barricades ! Henceforth freedom, however Ellie may exist in idea, will, in substance, e Meu utterly ext i nct in France. At a period when 's carminds are a ll di recte d to t h at one grea t inal point, the political progress of Europe, our ill s tarred sp ea k o til_sf, neighbours will be forbidden to ject. l i i inded, to think, upon the sub ', ° hile the rest of the world is on the' Mv e , they must either remain stationgy or ret wgade. T hey must sit moping in darkness, %Mile their neighbours are hurrying out into the StOlSllifie. Adieu to all their institutions for the fun herariee of enlightened freedom. Adieu to all their societies for succourin g the distressed patriots of other countries. All henceforth v i rtua ll popul ar power i s y denied them; fo r t h oug h t h ey have still the privilege left of walking and talkin g in groups of twos and threes, in t ilt - streets, the cafes, and the theatres, (yet, woe betide them, if more than twen ty (fur a lawy er of M. PERSIL'S dexterity, will ea silY construe the assembly of such a number Lilt ° proof positive of an association)—are caught canv ass i ng , i n any ot h er t h an a syco i i' h atliic spirit, the measures of the Juste Milieu, f t)r its oracle the king of the barricades ! French ree(l `)ln now lies stabbed and bleeding at the feet t 'Louts P HILIP and the police. To these, and the these " I Y — arniable an d wort h y con f e d e rates I— ti association - law cons i gns t h e guar di a nship of le constitution. pio ‘ .. Ve ha ve yet to see, however, how this pea l: roi ls system will work. At present, it ap in sto have taken all parties, but those engaged , Perperatin, it , lur e , must b b b y surprise. '•' Time, there from ill • e allowed for the people to recover . . en. stupefaction ; and we shall be much an 'taken itidced, if . they do not shortly ring such Shall stun him even in the closest recesses of the , uileli es• It will not surprise us if even an — "elite t a k es place, similar to that which occurred St the funeral of General LAMARQUE. There lire . ~, , pie materials capital, and Louis PHILIP seems well aware of L is t for, a m ong o th er precaut i onary measures, •li t 3 marching troops on Paris froni all quarters. IL Il e Oppositi on w h o , as we sa id b e f ore , h ave ~ICoughout. opp ose d th e assoc i at i on -l aw W i t h !Ingular skill and energy, intend, the instant it Ig passed l , to asseinble a nd s i gn a s t rong , so l emn fiarotest against it, as they did in the case of the ...ous compte Rendu. This fitting protest 4111 tend mind gr e at ly to encourage and fortify the li e , ()f LOUIS PHILIP apinst the time when „ a _ - "les_ publicly forth to celebrate the anniver• a l, of the July revolution of 1830. It will le word h : _ . 'in the opportunity of instituting a de•etable and no _ comparison between his p os iti on th en walked ' — ' — between th e per i o d w h en he ti Umbr e ll a Ie • str eets of Paris alone, with hi s Citi tu cked und er hi s arm , t h e id ol i zed zen Ding . he is coin li Of regenerated France; and now,when pellet}, like other despot, to call in guards to his., any h ot . assistance , and to pass his laws, ain 't !, at the oi t t t the acclatnations of the people, but f roin a P t 1 of the bayonet ! But we " see, us °lllicit' ovve , r, the end of all"—indignant France fett •ig off the shackles with whicli she is now ti. erect ; asserting her just, constitutional 6lits, and as a prelimin 'Thole BOURBON d • • ary step, and the J esuit •dT v. 3nasty, ,old and young, fru _ an ...lueral a sort Y' episcopal c 4 re lief" (rule the burden of State affairs. PAISLEY ELECTION. (Pr o ,„ „ int Second Edition of the Paisley Adver tiser of Saturday.) RETU RN OF SIR D. K. SANDFORD. si, °4 lt OF THE POLL AT FOU R O ' CLOCK. 1. , 4 ". IC. sandtorn 542 •ftr. CaPtai Gore C raf r d 509 n 2? .on 33 kajority for Sir Daniel 1,080 i w . , _ Total number polled k__ tave geat. pleasure in announcing representative of Paisley . ;:7t !Sandford is now the . D. T ii h ie e l er!):4 Lee run lit.tween Sir Daniel rover the pro tird, threw an air of inten.e int'es. ieetion since ci. tdln ,}. gs that lias not Leen surpas-ed by any e end his rirai, marked line of ii:' Passiisg of the Reforin Bill. The Established ..Nnictioil h , was Chu ro :.Weo the two parties firm supporter of th ' tut! bissent. Sir Daniell most %bile a atta ch C t blued', is not a supporter of any abose v s h t e l r iat ha n u 'a d y , wo o l d 0 . l'e while illr. Crawford, On t t o lL n . ( as he would raps z,0.i.,11:e her with as little compuuci understand that Pitra-) of t tY (the hon • gentleman wil.need, Mon. day ~e xt . urried rice. I'd e sheriff has aPP°' ``t 12 o'clock for declaring .......... z,..................... the state of the pull. The (,', , ----- -----------,-- -----: Alad Piteket e7r4i Steam Navigation .Company's_the emit th e uPr6 i Rotteidam, arrived on orb-house idat • , ron Th e i t : "It' l 'ausen h usidn Consul-General, IVl . r. B . :I:s t k .! : I t . ° _, 5 3 ag,iin felt On a mission to the Russian I frotn s '''Y a few !eve weeks since this gi•ntleman returned ito t* Ilettrsl urgh, whithcr he had proceeded . theTtrita.." bi4ines, and had fteipiet.t conferences with veror. SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. TA7 TERSALL'S. THE DERBY. —The • busineis transact .1 yesterday afternoon was neither so 1p avy in amount, nor an im- portant in i s resul a as that on Thursday I:at, although the attendance was ron.iderahly more numerous. The current offers against 13aha.res were 6 to 1, nothing having been done on him under 64 to 1 ; his friends were rather shy. Bentley was not in great. r request than on the last bettinz day: and Shelelah, quoted at the same price as before, had very few backers. Plenipotentiary was a shade better, anti Olympic about the same as in our last quotation. Viator is reported to be lame, and, as a necessary consequence, is, far the present, out of the market. The outriders of Cooper's stable were again backed at the old price, and three fresh horses were brought into notice at " copious" odds. Closing prices :- 6 to 1 agst Mr. Watt's Bubastes 7 to 1 agst Mr. Yates's Bentley 9 to 1 agst Duke of Cleveland's Shelelah 11 to 1 agst Mr. Batson's Plenipo (taken) 15 to 1 agst Duke of Grafton's Olympic (taken) 20 to 1 agst Mr. Gardnor's Comet 22 to 1 aest Colonel Cradock's Emigrant (taken.) 25 to 1 agst Lord Jersey's Glencoe (taken) 2000 to 9n agst Mr. Walker's Delirium (taken) 1000 to 33 agst Mr. Forth's Doll Tearsheet cost (taken) 1000 to 15agst Mr E. Peel's Noodle (taken) IMO to 30 agst Colonel Peel's Harum Scarum (taken) 10(.10 to Isagst Mr. Mills's Pincher (taken) THE OAKS. --Nothing done. SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE-(THIS DAY) FROM LLOYD'S. DEAL, MARCH 24.--Wind N., squally.—Arrived the Il de la Piedad, Cabo, from Bilboa ; Santa Barbara, Tulon, from St. Andero ; and Surrey, Kemp, from London, for New South Wales. The Thomas Laurie, for New South Wales, has sailed. The rest of the outward bound remain. PORTSMOUTH, MARCH 24.—Wind W.N.W.—Arrived the Fairy Queen, Artes, from St. Michael's. PLYMOUTH, MARCH 23.—Wind W., squally.—Arrived the Ranger, Keen, from Messina. FALMOUTH, MARCH 23.—Wind W., fresh gales, and squally. RAMSGATE, MARCH 24.—Arrived the Ruby, Bastler, from Cork ; and Jane and Margaret, Burd, from YoughaL Off port, the Lapwing, Osborn, from Lisbon. DOVER, MARCH 24.—Arrived off port the Lord Nelson, 'Dist, from St. Michael's; and Hawk, Paul, from ditto. POOLE, MA not 23.—Arrived the Hope, Hicks, from Lisbon. PENZANCE, MARCH 23.—Arrived off port the Alonzo, Hedding, from Charente. BRISTOL, MARCH 24.—Arrived the Ada, Faulkner, from Honduras; and Caroline, from Bilboa. LIVERPOOL, MARCH 23.—Arrived the Robert Kerr, Morri son, from Mobile; Sophia, M`Millen, from Newfoundland; Lively, Spittle, from Trieste; Emma, Parry, from Messina; Despatch, Crabb, from Odessa ; and Ellen German, Blundice, from Oporto. GREENOCK, MARCH 22.—Arrived the Eagle, Scott, from Charente. Ymnuourit, MARCO 24.—Arrived the Astrea, Ayres, from Stockton; assisted in leaky and with loss of anchor and chain, having been on the Barbar Sand. AMSTERDAM, MARCH 20.—The Vrien Dochap, Haziwinkel, frim Warverood to Dunkirk, was stranded at Zondvoort on the 16th inst, and it was feared would be totally lost—cargo ex pected to be saved. A large schooner belonging to Dundee, laden with herrings, from Wick to Ireland, was driven on shore in Loch Enbol, during a heavy gale on the sth inst., and much damaged, but is expected to be got off—cargo saved. The Two Brothers, Ruddock, from Lynn, put into Dunbar, with three feet water in the hold, having struck on a rock, bound to Leith. The Oporto, Stewart, put intoLerwick, cargo shifted, and with loss of boats, bulwarks, &c., bound to Oporto. THE MARKETS.-(THIS DAY.) HAY MARKETS.—(At per Load of 36 Trusses.) CUMBERLAND. Coarse heavy Lowland Meadow Hay £3 10 to £3 15 New .'oeadow Hay u 0 0 0 Useful Old Ditto 4 0 4 4 Rile upland Meadow and Rye-grass Hay 4 6 4 10 Clover Hay 4 5 5 0 Oat Straw £1 Bto £1 101 Wheat straw... 112 114 SMITHFIELD. C, arse heavy Lowland Meadow Hay £3 5 to £3 10 New Meaanw Hay 0 0 0 0 Useful Old Ditto 3 10 8 15 Fdie Upland Meadow and ttye-grass Hay ...... Cover Hay (extra fine)....£s 0 ..Generally Dat Straw ... £1 12 to £1 141 Wheat Straw 1 14 1 16 HUNGERFORD. Coarse Meadow Hay £3 5 to £3 10 New Meadow Hay 0 0 0 0 Useful Old Ditto Fine Upland Meadow and Rye grass Hay 4 2 4 6 Clover Hay 1 0 4 15 Oat Straw LI Bto £ 110 I Wheat Straw.... 112 116 THE FUNDS.-(THIS DAY,) CITY, TWELVE O'CLOCK. The only arrival this morning, with the exception of the two French Mails and Express from Paris, are Newfoundland papers to the 14th February at the North and South American Coffee. house, and they are of little import. They contain the ad. dress pi esented to his Excellency the Governor, by the Colonial Legislative Council, in answer to his Excellency's speech on the opening of the Colonial Legislature. By the French Mail this morning, we have the follcwing from Madrid of the 15th instant:— Offers for a loan come from all quarters, London, Paris, and Holland. There is also a National Loan on the tapis, and it is expected that the property of the clergy will be sufficient for the present wants of the Government; but this is a delicate measure to adopt. The Government are pressing the levy of the twenty-five thousand men, lately decreed. Don Carlos, it appears, continues to organise a small guard on the limits of the Spanish frontier, and the Cabinet is continually occupied with the affairs of Portugal. The organization of the Urban militia irritates the public and perhaps will have an unfavourable result before long. It is reported that some fresh discord has taken place between the queen and her sister. General Valdez would not accept of the Captain.generalship of Valladolid; and General Canterac has replaced him. The valuables of the cathedral of Toledo have been found packed up, but by whose orders is not known. The ac counts from Vienna state that Mehemet Ali and his son are not satisfied with the peace, and are reinforcing their army and fleet, to take advantage of the first opportunity that may offer. It is expected that at the commencement of the fine weather the Emperor of Austria willmake a tour to the Tyrol, where he will inspect the fortifications of Brixen, and from thence he will proceed to Lombardy, Milan, and Venice. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. THIS DAY, TUESDAY, MARCH 25. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the chair at twenty minutes afret twelve o'clock. Mr. Woodthorpe, the town clerk of the city of London, appeared at the bar ssith copies of all the oaths taken b y p•rsons when admitted to the freedom of the city, and of all others administered to the various officers of the cor poration. The Aberhaven Harbour Bill, the Montgomery Reads Bill, and the Dundee Gaol Bill, were severally read a second time. Colonel EVANS presented a petition from two indit i• duals against the bill for lighting and watching the parish of St. Jimes, - Westminster. The Gloucester G.s Bill was read a second time. Mr. DIVETT presented a petition from Richard Wat son, in favour of the Dart Navigation Improvement Bill. CHAIRMAN of the MIDDLESEX MAGISTRATES. Sir SAMUEL WHALLEY said it would be in the recollection of the house that he had wished, on a former day, to present a petition from certain vestrymen of the parish of St. Pancras, against the bill which was to allow a salary of 1,2001. a year to the chairtnan of the Middlesex magistrates ; and that, in deference to the opinion of the house, he withdrew the petition, intending to give notice to the hon. and learned member for Knar. sborough (Mr. Rotch), who might be present, when it was presented and who might offer any suggestions which might occur to them in support of that salary. He now begged to call the attention of the house to the petition. The vestry men of St. Pancras remonstrated to that house against giving a very large salary to the bolder of what had been hitherto an honorary office. The county rates of Mid dlesex had in the coursesif the last few years very alarm ingly increased. From 1828 to the present period they had increased from 35,000/. to 75,0001. The county was also burdened with a debt of a quarter of a million ; and, therefore, seeing the large increase of the county rates, the petitioners had the very laudable desire to economise the expenditure of that fund, and they were far from unanimous in recommending so large a salary. The bill had been concurred in only by a ma• j ,, rity of six magistrates—l 7 having voted for it, and 11 against it. Six magistrates, from motives of delicacy towards the hon. and learned chairman, declined to vote at all, and therefore he (Sir S. Whallrv) was justified in inferring, that had they voted they would have been against the hill, and it would then have been left solely to the vote of the hon. and learned chairman in support of his own salary. The office of chairmen to the Middlesex sessions was for• merly an honorary one. No gentleman who had hitherto held that office had required any emolument fire discharg ing those duties which all were desirous to fill. Again, the large amount of salary proposed was strongly objected to; because when he (Sir S. W.) compared the duty which de%olved upon the chairman of the Middlesex magistrates with the duties perforated by the magistrate s of the police offices, he thought that the latter had a much greater call upon their time, although they received only 800/. per annum, which was considerably less than the gen tleman to whom the petition referred would receive. He did therefore hope that the house would not a inction such a monstrous proposition, the sole reason assigned for which was, that the duty devolving upon the chairman of the Middlesex Sessions had very greatly increased of late years. But the house should he aware that that increase had been the act of the magistrates themselves, and would so continue only a short time, as an arrangement was in contemplation by which those duties would he considerably lessened, and the chairman of the Middlesex Sessions would have no greater duty to perform than the c h a irman of the Quarter Sass one of any other county. When no salary was attached to the office of chair man to any other county, he thought no distinction should be made in the case of the county of Middlesex. If the chairman was to receive a sal try, that salary ought to come out of the c nsolidated fund—(Hear)—instead of making it an addition to the county rates. He was sure, as be bad the pleasure of seeing many hon. members of that house who discharge! the vefy important duties of magistrates in their respective counties, that they would not advocate the drawing of any such line of distinction as that to which he had alluded. He would leave the matter in their hands and that of the house with confidence, and be trusted that they would not pass a stigma upon the office by making it one of emolument, nor pass a slur upon the magistrates by making them parties to any such proposition; for he (Sir S. W.) believed, that if the Middlesex magistrates were asked their opinions it would he found that a majority of them were decidedly hostile to that proposition. With these remarks (reserving to him self the right of offering every opposition in his power to the bill in its future stages) he would move that the peti tion do lie on the t.h'e. Mr. BYNG said he applied for the introduction of this bill, not that he thought it might be useful for the county of Middlesex to Iran a chairman with d salary, but because he found the magistrates were divided into four different parties as to who should be thefittestperson to fill the office.—( He ir.) J Mr. HUGHES HUGHES said he m i g ht have appeared to support the introduction of the bill, but he t.egged to ' inform the house that he had reserved to himself the right of opp ring it.—(A laugh.) -- Mr. ROTCH said this petition was merely what it in deed purported to be, a petition against eiving the present chairman of the Middlesex sessions 1,2001. a year, and indeed as far as that went, and the observations upon that point in particular, he should have been willing to let them pass sub stlentiu. But when he found the hon. member f Marylabone making observations which were entirely at vatiance with f cts, he was bound to make some reply to them.—(Hear, hear.) The bill before the house, was not a bill to give the chairman of the Middlesex sessions any salary at ail, but merely to enable the magistrates to do so at any future time if they thought proper. He was sorry to say many similar sta.ements had been propagated to deceive the people of lllMarvlebone. Had the hon. mendpr's statemetds been founded in truth he should have given him credit for having used the strongest arguments which could have been put forth. The hon. gentleman conceived the office of chairman of the sessions to be so honourable, and requiring so little attention and labour that Le was really quite astonished that after it had been held by genthinen of independent fortune who performed the duties gratuitously, any one should come forward and him sal oy. Why, up to the very period that lie (Mr. R.) was elected chairman, a salary was paid Mr. Const of 7501. a year, and that gentleman only tried 200 cases i n a y ear . What was the difference? lie (Nit. R ) had tried no less than 1,570 cases, dispos d of 100 appeals, and sat 125 days in court, b;sides county days. If hon. members would look at the return hi: !afore the house, they would find that the Manchester sessions occupied only 57 days and the Surrey sessions but 55 days, and at Manchester there were no appeals heard,—(Hear.) Now there were gentle's), n who, fur the purpose of de• diving others, or through ignorance, affirmed that the business was multiplied for the express purpose of in creasing his salary. The fact was, all the orders fur the. new arrangement were passed belore the death of Mr. riott, who immediately preceded him, for the moment the office was given up by Mr. Const it was discovered that twice as much was paid for tryine prison, rs at the Oid Bailey as at Cletkenwell, and an order from the &ere tary of State was given for an alteration. Now what was the result, of which this parish complained ? There had been an actual saving of 2,1161. to the county, in the space of nine months, and if all the cases had been tried at Clerkenwell, which had been ordered, be did not hesitate to say that there would have been a saving of 4,000/. He could not then conceive what reason the parish of Marylebone had to complain. It bail been said that the Middlesex Szssiona House was a rendezvous for magistiates, but he assured the house he had sat there the whole day with only one magistrate at his elbow. The hon. memher had stated that the bill was carried by a majority of six only, and that he knew six others who : were not present, but who would have voted against it. —(Hear, bear.) Now, he would say, that he came into the county of Middlesex an utter stranger, and did not know three magistrates in the commission of the peace, and the genera; body only knex him as chairman i,f the sessions, so that personal favour was quite out of the question, and was it to be supposed that at meetings where thousands of the public money was voted away, there would be anything like a trifling attendance? On the con- trat y, there weregenerelly from 30 to 40 ongistratespres, nt. It was his (Mr. R.'a) opinion, that the bill should not he ' pressed upon the house. He was asked for his vote auil gave one to the effect, that as his Majesty's Government had been preparing some maasure, the bill should not he urged before the house. A majority was against that opinion, however, and it was accordingly bt ought forward. .‘s regarded his (Mr. R.'s) exertions in his functions as l chairman, he consulted nothing bir the good of the county —he sacrificed his profession, and could not tie expected to do 'so any longer for the interests of that county. Dining the last twelve months he had saved that contra ,nell a sum as 5,734/. The county rates were lightened, and had begun to assume a better and easier manner of collection. A gaol was built at Westminster, which con , ! rained 1,100 persons, though cue capable of conteining 200 or 300 would do.—(Hear, bear, bear.) 1e could tell the inhabitants of St. Pancras, and Ihrylehone, that the city of London was renderine their taxes he ivy. Let the expenses he considered that were falling on them—the fees of Mr. Pope and all th, fees that were levied at the Old Bailey ; one particular fee was 31. 59. at the Old Bailey, while the same was hot I/. 125. in Middlesex. The chairman of Middlesex should he remunerated for his time and trouble. The entire o' his time was occupied, and be should not be unrewarded for it. Colonel WOOD did nit think that the chairman of the Middlesex Sessions was entitled to a salary ; at least, if -uch should be given, let it be given by governtren',.and let government have the noniination also of that chair man. There was a great number of police officers who could take the chair ; they were receiving payment from the public, and they could do the duty. The number of cases was greatly augmented at the Middlesex Sessions. In 1832 there were but 213 cases, and in 1833 there were 1,281. Why was this—why were over 1,000 cases taken from the Old Bailey where there was a judge to try them? There was a Common Sergeant and Recorder there, and a Judge always to assist them. (Colonel Wood) considered it highly objectionable to have a salary paid to the maeistrate for the Quarter Sessions. It would meet much oppo•irion from those upon whom it fell. There was no reason for sending such an additional number of cases to the sessions from the Old Bailey— (hear, hear)—but that they could be tried at less expense at the former th in at the latter. Then it should he remembered that the city of London had to maintain the prisoners from the Old Bailey ; so that it was still a matter of prudence to lessen the number of cases at the Quarter Sessions. _ _ , ---- Colonel EVANS was glad that the hon. and learned gentleman had taken up the question in such a mild manner, for he would then receive in a more calm and temperate manner the announcement that he (Colonel E.) should feel it his duty to give the bill all the opposition in his power. He, for one, did not complain that the ma gistrates did not try enough of cases—but that they tried too many. Capital punishments were now very much diminished, and the maximum of punishment most gene rally awarded in the superior criminal courts was 14 years' transportation. Now the hon. gentleman could not deny that that punishment had been frequently given at Clerkenwell. The bon and learned gentleman took great credit to himself for the 1,500 trials which had taken place under his direction during the last year; but be would beg to ask him, did be include in that number the 100 persons who were illegally convicted at what was called the ":Mistake Sessions?' —(Hear.) Ten of those persons were even now in prison, suffering, as he would fearlessly call it, filse imprisonment.—(Hear.) He was sorry he did not see the Under-Secret-try for the Home Department in his place, for it was absolutely necessary that they should either be tried anew, or discharged. One case that exemplified the absurdity of the present plan more than enough was that of a patina named Palmer, who was tried for receiving stolen goods, well knowing them to have been stolen. He was convicted, and sentenced to fourteen years' transportation. The principal concerned in the transaction was tried before a judge of the land, and it was there decided that he was " not guilty ;" so that there was the strange anomaly of the receiver of the goods found guilty at the sessions, while it was decided, in a su perior court, that the principal was not guilty, and, tif course, that the goods had not been stolen. Those sta'e ments, which could be proved, were strong fac's against the bill, and were also strong in favour of the whole business being taken before the regular tribunals. The hon. gentleman had candidly stated that his predecessor, who had filled the chair with much ability, and was greatly respected, had a salary of 7501. a year, but he did not give any rea son why that salary should be raised to 1,2001. He was of opinion that the government ought to have the appoint tnent of the chairman, and also be saddled with the pay ing of his salary. He would give bis most decided opposition to the bill, and be tin-iteil that the facts he had laid before the house would be taken into consideration, and relief be afforded to those persons who were now illegally de tained in custody. Mr. ESTCOURT said that the house ought to be on its guard, and not be led away by the fact of that being a private bill, to which the house did not pay the attention they perhaps ought to do. He always understood that the duties of the magistracy were performed gratuitously, and that with great advantage to the Country. Though tnat was the first time the question had been broached in that house, he had seen many publications upon the subject of paying a salary of 1,2001. to the chairman of these sessions, who was to be elected by his brother magis trates. But in his opinion that would be the worstplan thehouse could adopt, for he had reason to fear that even now they did not meet to elect the chairman without feelings of partiality, and those would be greatly strengthened if a salary were at tached to the office. In point of principle he objected to it, as he considered it would be attendcd with great danger if esta blished. The petition should be received by the house in a favourable manner, and the petitioners heard, by their counsel at the bar, against the bill, as they prayed, for the case was one of very great importance. There was now an inquiry going on into the county rates generally, which he trusted would lead to great improvement in their arrangement, and to their being very much reduced. Then, in the very teeth of that, uo not let them throw cold water upon the subject, by adding to the burdens of one county such a large sum, without giving the parties interested an opportunity of being beard against it. Mr. COBBETT expressed his astonishment that any gentle man would propo,e that the whole country should he taxed to pay a magistrate for the county of Middlesex. What right had the county of Wilts or the county of Dorset to pay the salary of a Middlesex magistrate ? He was against the payment of even police magistrates. The county of Middlesex drew towards it all the wealth of every other county, and then taxed every other county to keep it in a state of peace.—(A laugh.) He should certainly give his opposition to the bill. Mr. WILKS said that the sentiments contained in the peti tion were universally the sentiments of the whole county. The hon. member for Oldham stated that Middlesex collected all the wealth of the country, but it should be recollected also what a vast quantity of pauperism and crime resorted to (Hear, hear.) The operation of the county rates in that county was most ruinous ; in Bethnal Green and many other districts the rates could not be collected, notwithstanding all the efforts that were made. It excited no surprise that when 1,2001 a-year was proposed to be added to that which was already so overwhelming, the populace should interpose and not allow a measure like that to pass. Sir H. WILLOUGHBY stated that the proposed salary was far too high. It was extraordinary that at a time when that house and the whole country were anxious to see the criminal code as complete and as cheap as possible, a new burden should be added to the county rates. Mr. O'CONNELL, as belonging to the profession of the law, said there was no principle more clear than this, viz., that no magistrate should be paid a salary by those under whose con trol he was ; the value of a barrister was that his opinion and assistance might be taken and respected, but that respect would be much lessened if he was subject to the control of his brother magistrates. If the proposition to erect a chairman every six months be adopted, it might happen that from partizanship, or any ot.er motive, they would refuse to re-elect him. As to the county rates, he was wholly ignorant of them ; but he was of opinion that the judicial system ought to be supported by Government, and that Government should be made responsible for the proper administration of justice. He hoped this dsscussion would have another ten dency, viz., that it would lead to the appointment of Courts of Local Jurisdiction, and thereby afford to the public immediate summary and cheapjustice. He did not wish for such a scheme as that which was proposed last year by the Lord Chancellor, because it was composed of such machinery that it could not work, and it would require half a century before an opinion could be formed upon the operation of its complicated details. He would advise a return to the common law practice of county courts, which should be perpetually sitting and dispo. sing of business. He hoped the government would take up the system of local jurisdiction and put down the system by which the local magistrates had the power to appoint a chair. man,. and withdrawing that appointment when they thought proper. He really hoped that the hill would be withdrawn.— (Hear, hear.) He was sorry that the hon. member (Mr. Rotch) had thought it necessary to advocate the bill at all, as it went to give himself a salary. If he (Mr. O'Connell) were similarly placed in his own country he should not have aken any part upon the subject. Mr. BOTCH said the hon. and learned member could not bave heard his observation, for it was of a very opposite cha. racter.- - (Hear, hear.) In his own court lie had also both spoken and voted against the measure. Mr. O'CONNELL said that he must certainly have misun derstood the hon. and learned gentleman, but he should now wish to know who it was that advocated the measure. He trusted that lie should never hear ofthe bill again. Mr. ROTCH wished to reply to some observations that had fallen from the hon. and gallant member for Westminster (Col. Evans). That lion, and gallant member had asked if he (Er. Rotch) had included in his 15,000 cases the 100 and odd that had been illegally tried.—(Hear, hear.) In reply, lie had to state, that he included only thirty-six (Hear, hear,) in that number—those being the only ones tried by him, and only twenty-five of them were left in his custody after their Illegal trial. He was left solely to his own discretion respect ing them, and he discharged them. With the other eleven that had been left session after session, he had nothing what ever to do after the sentence of transportation, for they were handed over to the Secretary of State. As to the trials, they were illegal from the adoption of a practice which he tried to do away with, but was out-voted, and therefore he entirely wiped his hands of them ; that practice was introduced by his predecessor Mr. Const, and he had nothing to do with it. With regard to the case of Palmer, he knew that a great deaf of ridicule had been heaped upon him respecting it. He was on that occasion assisted by a learned sergeant, who had often been and was now sitting on the Circuit for one of the judges id the land, and trying cases of the greatest importance. He (Mr. R.) had been of opinion that no case was made out against Palmer, but that learti...d sergeant was of a contrary opinion, anti won him (Mr. 11.) over to th a t opinion, THE FUNDS. The express from Paris states that the French government has received despatches from Constantinople of the 28th February, by which it appears that the notes sent to the Porte by the English aad French Ambassadors, demanding a catego rical answer relative to the treaty of Bth July, has not received from the Porte a final explanation respecting Spain. A move ment took place at Madrid on the 15th instant, but was soon put down, and on the 16th all was tranquil in theabove capital A report prevailed that the Carlists had taken Vittoria, but little credit was given to this report. The French Funds come lower, 781. 35e. Spanish also 27. Our speculators in the Spanish and Portuguese Stocks have been greatly disappointed by the express from Paris this morn ing, as they expected that the Spanish Stock would have come higher ; but its decline at Paris has caused much agitation in the market, and it receded about 1 per cent., being done at 321 ; Portuguese Stock has also receded, now 651 1. Consols which left off yesterday at 91 1 1 for the Account, opened at 91 1 at which price they are at present. Up to the present hour we do not hear of any arrivals from Portugal, which are anxiously looked for. HALF•PAST ONE. We understand that the Lapwing, which has arrived off Ramsgate from Lisbon, sailed from thence on the 11th or 12th instant, which Is only one or two days later than the last accounts from that quarter; she does not bring either letters or news. A government steamer is waiting to thing the result of the next expected battle or sortie of Don Miguel. Spanish and Portuguese Stocks continueheavy ; Portuguese, 65 1 ; Spanish, 31 1 32. Consols, which were in the early part of the morning at 911 1, may be quoted at present 91 for the Account, with little coin& It is again reported that Portugal has made a treaty with Spain, and Spain is going to send 5,000 men to Don Pedro. Th RAE 0' CL 0 CK. Consols for the Account, 916 CLOSING PRICES. Bank Stocis 3 peg CeuT. Cons 916 991 New .3t 1 cr Cent 986 perCcilt Long. Ann. to expire -POUR O'CLOCK. India Stock Ditto Bonds 3l pm South Sea Stock Ditto Old Ana Ditto New Ami. Ex. Bills, 10.1 q 53 pm. Di NW. ...... 54 pm. Ditto Small 54 pm Bank S. for Ace.. Consols for Opg 914 India S , . tor Opg. FUNDS. Jau.lFho . 1599.. Jar.. 1860 • .17t FCREIG I Austrian, 5 per cent 99 Belgian, 5 per cent B Brazilian Bonds Buenos Ayres, 6 per cent 25 Chilian, Si per cenr. 251 Columbian, 6 per cent 251 Ditto 1824 251 Danish 7si Greek, 5 per cent 28 4, Mexican 5 per Cents, 1825 3:1 Ditto 6 per Cent., 1825 39 Peruvian 6 per Cent. Portuguese, 5 per cent (151 Ditto, Reg. Bonds Prussian, 5 per cent. Russian Bonds, 5 per cent lO4 Ditto, Metallic lO4 Spanish, 5 per cent 32 Ditto, 1823 :31.1f French 5 per Cent.... 105% 25c. Exchange 2sf. 30c. French :1 per Cent —f. —c. Dutch, 21 per cent 4ltz Ditto, 5 per cent 971 THE WEATHER.—It was remarked this week by a geoileman who has reached his 90th year, and c,:m bines close observation with a retentive memory, that there lv.s net been so early a spring as the piesent these sixty two yeas. The hedges and trees are coming out fast nto leaf; and the fieldi have put on a lively vernal green. We may he said to have had this year DO winter. —Useltentiam Journal. Mr. HUGHES HUG I said he had brought in the bill by accident, but he should not support it by any accident what • ever.—(Great laughter.) The petition was ordered to li^ on the table. Mr. CHILDERS m and tlt t:!Ir ling of the Great Shel ford (Cambridge: hare) Tithe C,; - .,:nut:.ti:m Bill. The bill was read a third tim: ,ml On the motion of Mr. PRYM F., the Cambritip Gas Bill was read a third time, and passed. The Perth Harbour Improvement Bill was read a second time. The Staines Bridge Bill was read a second time and com mitted. Mr. VIVIAN moved for leave to bring up the report of the committee on the Carnarvonshire Railway Bill, on Wed nesday, the 26th inst.—Leave granted. THE CAMBRIDGE PETITION-ADJOURNED DEBATE. Mr. PRY ME said, in the few observations he had made yesterday previous to the adjournment of the house, he had confined himself to those points which had been alluded to by the right hon. the member for the University of Cambridge. Whatever arguments he should urge upon the right of the Dissenters to certain concessions, he should reserve for another opportunity. As he had already observed, there was nothing of a controversial character in the course of the university examination, that would make it repugnant to the feelings or principles of the Dissenters. Although the concession of their claims would give the Dissenters a vote in the administra tion of the affairs of the university, yet the details of the educe' ion and other milior regulations were matter of privile g e to th e dit:. ferent colleggs, over which the University had no control. Therefore the concession would not, in the least, interfere with the course of academical instruction and discipline in the univer sity. The colleges had it in their power to grant certain dispen_ sations ; they might dispense with attendance of members at the Sacrament, and they might grant a similar dispensation from 'Attending at chapel, if it was contrary to the consciences of individuals. '1 his was no practical view of the question, for it had been the case for a long period in Trinity college, Dublin, where, from the national liberality of that institution, it had admitted dissenters and Roman Catholics to degrees, since the year 1793. He was informed that the Roman Catholics of Trinity college were not even requested to attend the chapel.— ( Mr. O'Connell—there is no necessity for residence.) Great numbers, it appeared, did not even reside in the University, and were consequently exempted from attendance. Whether the dissenters or Roman Catholics who might hereafter belong to the university of Cambridge would obtain dispensation, would be a matter of regulation with the different colleges. It had been said that such an admission would change the whole character of the university; but he would ask, for whose adtantage had these institutions been founded? Was it for the advantage of any particular body of religionists ? Certainly not.—(Hear.) As had been remarked by the right hon. gentleman (Mr. S. Rice) on the previous day, in the time of Edward VI., Eliza beth, and James 1., there was no exclusion of any class, and yet there had been no want of heresy and schism—there were religious discords, on account of which men were imprisoned, persecuted, and beheaded; and yet, during these dark and dis turbed times, when polemical feeling ran high, and when per secutions existed on the score of religion—during these troubled times, down to the year 1613, there had been no exclusion, on account of religious belief, from these universities. With regard to the emoluments these were the result entirely of the foundations of particular colleges, and they were or might be limited by the wills of the founders, or by the sta. tutes of the college. This was the case in Trinity College, of which he had the honour to be a fellow. He subscribed, how ever, to the 39 articles before called upon to do so, but there were other safeguards against any interference with those en dowments. It was said the prayerof this petition was limited, and that theological degrees were not included. Now if his right hon. friend, orthodox as he was, or himself wanted a de gree of Doctor of Divinity there was an insuperable impedi ment in the way, for they must first be in orders and preach a sermon in Latin in St. Mary's Church ; tee petitioners, there fore, would have stultified themselves, if they had asked that which could not be effected. With regard to the signa tures being only those of a small minority of the members of the university, he would remark that it was the petition of resident members only, and though a solitary exception was made to Professor Babbage, that gentleman might be well con sidered a resident member, inasmuch as he attended throughout the mathematical examination. It was also thought desirable that it should be the petition of resident members, as there would have been great difficulty in getting the signatures of the non-resident members who were scattered through every part of the kingdom. His wonder was that the number of signatures was so- large.—(Hear.) It was naturally to be expected that where monopoly existed many would be actuated by old feelings, he had almost said old prejudices, and it could hardly have been expected that full one-third would have signed such a petition. His right hon. friend had said, those who had not signed it were opposed to it, but this; indeed, was not the fact; for he knew that Professor Avila, and another gentleman of dignified station, had agreed with him on the principles and objects of the petition, and he had no doubt there were many more of the same opinion who had not signed the petition, merely because they did not approve of some part of the word ing.—(Hear, hear, hear.) Many would not sign out of delicacy to others, knowing that as the mejority bound the I minority, they might place some friend in an unpleasant posi. ti n. The right hon. gentleman said, that only 11 tutors out of 74 had signed the petition; the fact was, there were not seventy-four real tutors, the greater number being only assistants and looking forward to promotion, and the ap pointment being in the head of the university, they would be restrained from signing such a petition for fear of giving offence. Whatever, however, might be the circum stances under which the petition was concocted and signed, he could not help observing that it was a proof of the increase of liberality and a proper spirit of candour towards others. Hay. ing mentioned what he had for the present lie should not trouble the house longer; but on a future occasion he should take the opportunity of remarking on the spirit 01 what had fallen from his right hon. friend. ' Mr. COBBETT said that a scene took place yesterday whic:, no one could have expected to have witnessed, that of a Mi nister of the Crown doing what a King was driven from his throne for attempting to do The right hon. gentleman told them a tough story.—(A laugh.) He gave them a long ac count of the exclusions from the Universitiy ; but th.-re was a chasm left. He (Mr. Cobbett) should fill up that chasm. What was the authority quoted by the right honourable gentleman ? Why, no less than Dr. John Jebb. But a worse authority than that could not be. He was a most unrelenting, most persevering, and most hitter •enemy to tne church of England. He (Mr. Cobbett) should quote from a better authority—that was Mr. Hume—an historian who was borne ow in what he said by documents of undotfoted autho rity. James 11. attempted to do the very thing that was in tended now ; and not even to give dissenters fellowships, but much less. He (Mr. Cobbett) should read a short passage from Hume.—(Here the hon. member read an account of the re. sistance of the university of Cambridge to James 11. on the occasion of his press nting Fatiter Francis, the Benedictine monk, to the degree of Master of Arts.) The secretary to the ambassador of Morocco had obtained the degree that was sought for the monk by the King—the latter, accord ingly, thought he might be excused asking the same for a Roman Catholic, but the University refused themandate of the King, and said that although a complimentary degree might have been conferred on a foreigner, yet there was a great dif ference between that and giving a Roman Catholic priest tee privilege of a degree which should entitle him to a vote in the affairs of the University.—(Hear.) Now, though he (Mr: Cobbett) thought that the petition should no , be objected to—he would not object to it, at least—still, h Roman Catholics were to be admitted to the university, there was no disguising the matter that they would become the mas ters of the university, and have the control of its property The mandate of King James the Second did not ask for all that the petition sought. Still every body knew that it was the main cause of his having lost his throne.—(Hear.) The vice-chancellor of the college was suspended ; a man of spirit was chosen in his place, and resistance was firmly made to that decree of the royal pleasure. The affair of tire seven bishops arose likewise from James's attempt to enforce liberty of conscience. He wanted to bring the dissenters on a level with the church of England—he ordered a declaration of to. leration to be read in the churches after divine service;_ it was refused, and not only refused, but a resolution way entered into and a petition was sent to the king, praying that he would not, enforce the decree. All knew that tin seven bishops were sent to the tower ; accused of sedition, tried, acquitted, and, as every one was well aware, the conse quence was the expulsion of the king from his throne. 'lln proposition made yesterday in that house went to do the saint as James attempted. But he (Mr. Cobbett) should really remonstrate with the right bon. gentleman about Doctor Joht Jebb.—(Loud laughter.) Was it not possible to muster some book, in boards or leather, which could be adduced as an autho rity? He (Mr. C.) looked that morning into the" Dictionnairt des,Grands Hommes," and he found that the character given to Dr. Jebb was th .t he was a clever man, but a most inflamma tory writer. He (Mr. C.) was surprised so many of the members of the University had signed the petition.—(Hear, hear, hear.) As to the complaint thst Dissenters made regarding their exclusion from degrees, why that was applicable to al, sects. They were obliged to serve two additional years when going to the bar, in consequence of not having a degree. Some candidates for the legal profession were obliged to gnaw their way to the bar—(Loud laughter)—in consequence or poverty, others from their irreligion. All dissenters laboured under the great difficulty of that . exclusion All the dissenters wanted was a full and free participation in every thing, and for himself he must say, that he would much rather hear his Majesty's government declare its readiness ti grant every thing that the dissenters required, than de grade themselves by dsluding the house and the country, one exciting discontent. Tire real question with him was, whe ther the church was to be demolished or not. . . Mr. I3A INES considered that the same argument which the lion. member had used might have been put forwari. , when the house were discussing the '1 est mid Corpora tion Acts and the Catholic question.—(Hear, hear, hear.) He denied that the dissenters were keeping back any tiring. and be took upon himself to state that it was not the wish o. the dissenters in the smallest degree to interiere with th, institutions which were devoted to the established religion the country. In those institutions they did not ask to partici pate; all that they wanted was to be admitted to the general L_ stitutions of the country. If there had been a college institute: • for the purpose of - giving instructions to the members of th, church of England, they did not wish to partake of tho,e. structions.—(Hear, hear.) With respect to,„the other objec tictl3 made by the hon. member relating to the removal of the tests, he bel,eved that that removal anti the arguraelit upon that subject wou7el have app!ie 11, rest and Corporation Acts, rnd the Catholic question. He would askthe house whether it had been made the worse by the admission of Catholic members ? Certainly not ; and that being so, the question with him was, waled the universPy be made a whit the worse for the ad mission of Catholics and Dissenters than the house had been ? —(Hear, hear.) With rest.ect to the question, whether the subject was open to the consideration of Parliament, he thought that he might fairly state if it was in the power of King James the First to impose those restrictions, it wes equally in the power of Parliament to remove them.—(Hear, hear.) Under what circumstances, he would ask, was the test complained of imposed ? Not at a time when the subject could receive a grave and deliberate consideration, but at a period when the King was enjoying the sports of the turf, and not very likely to judge deliberately whether those impositions were calculated to produce good effects or not. The peti tioners only wished to participate in the benefitsef the univer sity as far as they were general, not wishing to derive s ^v ad. vantage from them, as far as they conferred particula: ben Aizi. Mr. LENNA RD said he had had a good deal of commUnicrt tion with the Dissenters of this country of late, and he verily believed that they did not for a moment contemplate anything but what was just and reasonable. The hon. mem. her for Oldham did not see that they were deprived of any advantages that were worth speaking of, but , they were of a different way of thinking, as was proved by the immense number of petitions that had been-presented upon the subject. The for, except t ic and were as a honourable member .said it was nothing that the Dissenters excluded or,as thefroin cases the professions toa t both of present, matter of very special favour, a Dissenter could never get to the bighest situation in the College of Physicians. True they might practise, but under such restrictions as were found to be degrading In his opinion, if they considered the obtaining of those degrees as a mere feather in their cap, they ought to be granted a participation in them.—(Hear, hear.) Nothing, in his opinion, could be more absurd than in those days when dissenters were admitted into that house—when they might become ministers of state and privy coon cilllors—(Hear, hear)—when they might even be elevated to the bench, to say they were not eligible to become Bachelors and Masters cf arts.—(Cheers.) It was most absurd to reason upon the letter of James I. In those days of enlightenment and freedom, for it was written in times when freedom was un. known—when man, even speaking of liberty, was liable to all the pains of an inquisition; it was to him extraordinary that arguments for the exclusion of dissenters should he drawn from the times of the Stuarts.—(Hear.) When the universities were first established they were national institutions, and comprised the whole to ty of the people. TI e object of those who now opposed the claims of the dissenters would be to make them sectarian establishments—(Hear, hear.) The dssenters amounted to one-third of the whole population, and was it right that such a large propor. tion of the country should be deprived of the advantages of science and literature? The right.' hon. gentleman opposite (Mr. Goulburn) had contended that it was improper to admit dissenters to the universities because those establishments were to be considered, in some way or other, as closely con nected with the established church. He (Mr. Lennard) knew of no statute—certainly the statute of Elizabeth did not—that secluded any class of society. The universities were estab lished for the spread of literature and science—godly literature being of course included; therefore the argument raised by the right honourable gentleman was an unjust one.— (Hear, bear.) That right honourable gentleman, how ever, had used one plausible line of argument, viz., that if the house gave the universities t he power of admitting dissenters to particular colleges, the heads of those colleges would refuse to receive them, and therefore it would be, in fact, giving the dissenters nothing. The first answer to that was, that some colleges did now receive dissenters.—(Hear, hear.) He recol_ lected when he was at Cambridge, 20 years ago, a Roman Ca. tholic student and a Roman Catholictutor were admitted to Jesus college: since then the same liberality was practised. But would it be contended that the colleges would be less disposed now, if the houSe gave them the power, than they were twenty years ago, to admit Dissenters ? He felt great gratification at seeing such a petition from Cambridge— (Hear, hear)—for it was a proof that the members of the uni versity understood the temper of the times, and were disposed to accommodate their Dissenting brethren.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. WILKS said that, connected, as he had the honour to be, with the dissenters, it would be unthankful in him to allow that petition to lie on the table without saying a few words upon the liberal and enlightened body from whom it had ema. nated. The characters of the hon. members of the University who had signed that petition were eminent, not only in that country, but their names were connected with the intelligence and literature of the age. It must be doubly acceptable to the. dissenters that these individuals had come forward unsolicited and unsought, and done what must reflect still stronger lustre upon their benevolence and liberality, and which would be nost gratefully acknowledged by the dissenters —(Hear.) They had come forward to ask that the diSsenters should not be excluded from the honours of the University, and he (Mr. W.) would venture to say that if the dis senters were few in number and comparatively unknown —if their.wealth, information, industry, and political power did not entitle them to the attention of the house, even still the petition would be just, and the principle upon which the petition was founded was such as every reflecting statesman must hail with satisfaction, and every liberal heart must ap. prove. The principle was cne of intetectual liberty, and liberty of conscience, and he trusted that the house would ••• inclined to admit that principle.--(Hear, hear, hear ) If that principle held good on the supposition that the dis senters 14 eie few in number, how much more so must it t e when it appeared that they constituted one-third of the popt lation, and in some places seven, and in Wales nine-tenths of the population. When it appeared that in the manufacturing Ind agricultural districts the great majority of the population wore dissenters—(An hon. member asked, " Could he prove that?") He would not now enter Into the details, bur he was prepare.( to prove that not only in the manufac turing and mining, but even in the agricultural districts, the great bulk of the land belonged not to those who were connected with the established church, but to the disson. 'ers.—(Hear, - hear.) If there was no positive advantage •onnected with the introduction of the dissenters to their rights, stll they should not submit to be continued in is state of political and civil degradation.—(Hear, hear ) How would the members ot• the church in that house feel if they were excluded from those rights because of their parti. cular mode of religious worship?—(Hear.) If it were out a feather, as the' honourable member for Belton ;aid, without which a man could not walk through the world without being debased and degraded in florae re. spects, he ought to demand it, and it ought to be grant , •d him. Whatever tended to the degradation of Protestant Dissenters, created civil prejudices, and did much injury to society in general. It was not the mere degradation if the dissenters, but of the country, that men like Watts, had received from Aberdeen or America, those very nonours which ought to have been given to them by the universities of their own country. Such men as Dr. itye Smith, Dr. Carey, and others, to whom we ware indebted for Grecian and Chinese literature, were ex. chided from our universities on no other account but hat of not agreeing to the same form of worship Another iaember said that if the petition was acceded to he could not send his son with satisfaction to the university ; but what was the case in regard to Scotland, where there were no tests, and where the parents never felt any such solicitude as that, and yet where th,re was a general devotedness to the interests (irreligion and the estab'ished church of the country? —(Hear, hear.) Much had been said in condemnation the language of Dissenters in their petitions, but what said the. subscribers to this p.tition ? " that they regarded the exclusion Dissentersif from the Universities as an unrighteous prescrip, tiJn." If they were still to beexcluded our Universities would be no longer national establishments, but sectarian institutions. He felt grateful to his Majesty's Ministers that they had come ibrward as far as they had done, upon this occasion, ,e,pecially after the bringing forward of that unfortunate ill which had excited so much suspicion and dissatisfaction among the dissenters of the country.—(Hear, hear, hear.), He thanked his Majesty's Ministers, in the name of the Protestant dissenters at large, and would conclude in thC words of Locke on toleration—" What we want is liberty ; solute liberty ; just and true liberty; equal and impartial betty." That was what the dissenters wanted, with that they would be content, and with nothing less. Mr. STANLEY would deviate from his usual course, and say, as a member of the government anxious to uphold the interests of the Established Church that he expressed his full, entire, unequivocal, and hearty concurrence in the prayer of the petition. (Loud cries of " Hear, hear, hear," which lasted for some time.) It was ra. ther singular that such a petition- should be met .vith the same objection by two gentlemen of extreme opinions. file member for the University of Cambridge and the member for Oldham both objected on the ground of its moderation.—(Hear, hear, hear.) The one said it asked too much, and the other that it did not go, far enough. The former said that the complaint was, they must serve an apprenticeship of two years before they oould got t degree of master of arts. But, said the same right hon. Durable gentleman, they must go to the courts of law for their remedy, so that it was not a real grievance after all.—(Hear, hear) He (Mr. S.) was of opinion that if there was no other, that was a sufficient and a substan tial grievance.—(Hear.) The right hon. gentleman said he objected as a father, because he should fear his sons would be corrupted by association with dissenters. Mr. GOULBURN cried "No," and rose to explain—Dis_ s?titers have had the benefit of university education, and were not admitted into professions, not from want of edu. cation, but from not signing certain articles. Such was a practical grievance, and a practical degradation..—( Hear, aear.) He (Mr. S.) was for the firmest support of the established church, but the effectual way to do that was to cut off all iliberal ,xclusions, and admit the dissenters into the civil privileges of society, and place no restraint on them. All religions were admitted to the education of the universities, were submitted La its Discipline, and could not inji4re either by being allowed to participate in the honours of the college. He (Mr. S) deeply lamented the practice at Oxford of ob:lging young men to sign the articles they never read. Also the practice of .:onpulsory attendance at college chapel. It tended to create irreverence and disrespect for religion, and was of more injury 0 the university, then the admission of dissenters. He hopwl sit his right hon. friend the member for Ashton would post. , me his motion fixed for the night, in order that the two mo th, is might be discussed together. The SkUAKEtt left the chair at threC