The Sun. — London, England, 1834-06-25 00:00:00

SECIONE) EDITION. SUN OFFICE, Seven o'clock. /IPERIAL PARLIAMENT, THIS EVENING. HOUSE OF LORDS. The house met at four o'clock, and examined two witnesses upon the Warwick Borough Bill, as to the bribery. After which the house resumed ; when Lord ROLLE 1 01esented petitions from Bridport, Otway, and three other places in Devon, in support of the Established . Church. CRIMINAL LAW. The LORD CHANCELLOR said he would take that opportunity of moving that an hum ble address be presented to his Majesty, praying that there be laid before that house a copy of the first report of the commissioners appointed to inquire into the criminal law. He had great satisfaction in stating that those learned commissioners had made their first report, and that more valuable doctrine had never arisen out of any inquiry committed to the care of any body of commissioners whatever. ( Hear, hear.) Most important matter had been col lected by them, in order to give to all persons, whether lawyers or not, a complete and accu rate idea of what the law was ; and it would be found, when the report should be laid before their lordships. if his Majesty should he pleased to agree to the address he had then the leave of moving, that a very sound and judicious view had been taken of it, after most elabo rately digesting the criminal law. It was one of the most masterly specimens of a digest of the law he had ever seen. He should now propose, as it was so late in the session, that the matter should be allowed to stand over for the thorough con .sideration of the profession during the recess, and he should, at as early a period of the next session as possible, move that the report be taken into consideration by the house, or that it should be referred to the consideration of a select committee. That was a course which, as at present advised, he thought would be most satisfactory ; in the meantiro-, he merely moved the address to his Majr..sty. Lord WYNFO RD made a few 0 1- dservatir jns w hi c h were inaudible in the gallery. 7tie addless was then agreed to. PLURALITIES NON-RESIDENCE BILLS. The Duke o f . CUMBERLAND wished to ask the noble ant', learned lord on the woolsack when he intended to move the second reading of the Non- Resider...cc and Pluralities Bill, because the ses sion was now drawing very fast to a close, and it was very desirous that the discussions should take ,dace in the presence of the right rev. prelates, many of whom were in town. The noble and learned lord had mentioned to him the other night that there was one clause he wished further to consider, but he was afraid that if it was delayed too long they should not have the presence of the right reverend prelates. 'Hie LORD CHANCELLOR said, that what the illustrious duke had stated with respect to the clause he had mentioned to him the other night was perfectly correct. It was a very important uric, and should be drawn with great care, and tho learned individual who had to draw it, had had some difficulty in framing it so as to meet the e- - gene} of the case. ( Hear, hear.) That difilcultv had been now overcome, and he had tot tlie least doubt that, on next Monday at the latest, (if not on Friday), he should be able to rive his royal highness a copy of the bill, if not publicly he w ou ld privately. He had notmadel:tp Ma mind yet on what day be would move the second reading, and it did not matter how late in the session the bill passed. He had a great deal of correspondence from patrons and per sons interested on the subject, which would certainly take him a long time to read over. (Hear.) He would net proceed further in the discussion on the bill than to say, that his only wish was to have those points to which he had adverted fully brought before the attention of their lordships ? The Duke of CUMBERLAND put it to the house and to the noble lord whether it would be act ing candidly to try on a measure of the importance of the one the noble lord had adverted to in the absence of the bench of bishops. Lord WYN FO RD said that there were several *parts of the bill that would require the undivided at tention of the house. The present bill could not satisfy anybody ; and if it was pressed in its present form, their lordships would allow him to say, that there was not a single clause but he should feel it his duty to give his decided opposition to. The Duke of RICHMOND thought the present one of so irreat importance thateitonghtto be:well dr batesi- He thoughtit most desirable that there shceilo be a resident clergyman in every parish, and tlidt divine worship should be performed in every rural parish twice on a Sunday, and in towns three times. The Archbishop of CANTERBURY thought that the Length of time for the absence of clergymen ought to be extended in cases of ill health. He had received more complaints from the absence of curates than from any other cause. In his opinion the bill that had been brought forward ought to undergo the most mature consideration, and would require great atten tion. His wish was to enforce as strict a re sidence as possible.. The means of enforcing residence under the existing law was exceedingly objectionable, inasmuch as it was in the hands of the common in former. His wish was, that a bill should be introduced compelling the residence of clergymen, and giving the jurisdiction to any other person than the diocesan to compel his residence. The LORD CHANCELLOR said that he had brought forward the Subject of the criminal law, and upon that occasion the right reverend prelate had taken the opportunity to speak upon the subject of non-residence, which had no more to do with the subject than the light with the dark. He had been dragged into the question of non-residence by his noble friend (Lord Wynford) and the right reverend prelate whether he would or not, and that too without any question on the subject being before the house. The right rev. prelate had made a speech on the merits of the bill, and his noble friend had stated that if the bill was proposed in its present shape, he should oppese every clause of it. Was it to be supposed that he should sit quiet without saying one word upon the subject. There was no pretence what ever to introduce the subject, and he would S not be tempted to enter into any further discussion upon it. His noble and learned friend had taken an erroneous view, not of the bill but of the abstract of it which had been published incorrectly. He defied any one to say that there was truth in the remark that no one party would be pleased with the hills because they did not go far enough. He would defy his noble friend to produce any one who would say so after reading the bill : it went completely to put an end to plurality altogether, if that was not far enough he did not know what would be ; indeed the most Rev. Prelate thought it went much too far. ( Hear, hear.) He did not complain of what had been said of the two clauses proposed to be added, because it had been introduced by his answer ing the question put to him by the Illustrious Duke. He would now, however, after what had fallen from the most rev. prelate, think seriously about whe ther he shoulc now introduce these clauses or not, because the most reverend prelate thought they were unnecessary. Now if he, upon the part of the church which he represented thought that the clergyman should not have a day or two to attend the assizes or other place with his wife or daughters, without its being included in the 90 days, certainly he (the Lord C.) would not think it his duty to press upon the house. Lord AV YNFORD explained. The Duke of CUMBERLAND said the dis cussion had arisen out of the noble and learned lord's explanation of the clauses he proposed to ;efroduce, and not upon the question which he had pskedi tie Archbishop of CANTERBURY was not aware that there had been any other question before the house. As the noble and learned lord had entered into a full explanation of his two new clauses, there fore he had as good a right to state his opinion as he had. The LORD CHANCELLOR cried" Hear, hear." I had no right to do it. The address was then agreed to. Lord FARNHAM said he had, on a former night, put a question to the noble eaal at the head of the Government as to their intentions with respect to the Coercion Bill. In that noble earl's absence he wished to state that that bill would expire in a very few days. more than a month, and as every obstruction was likely to be given to it in another place, he thought no time should be lost in bringing it in. ( Hear.) He wished to know from the . noble viscount (Melbourne) whether that bill was to be renewed, and whether, as expected, it would be introduced first into that house? He therefore wished to ask when the bill would be brought in, for he repeated that as it was certain to meet with great, but he trusted unavailing opposition, not a day ought - now to be lost. Viscount MELBOURNE said he could add but very little to what had been said by his noble friend on a former occasien. t was in tended to reintroduce the bill, and to do so in that house first. He trusted that M a few days his noble friend ( Earl Grey )would be.pterared tobring in thebill,no time would be lost upon the part of the government. Petitions 'in favour of the church were presented by the Archbishop of Canterbury, the Duke of Beaufort, and several other Peers. The Earl of ROSEBERRY presented a petition from the schoolmasters of the Presbytery o`f Linlithgow in favour of the connection of churel and state. He presented the report of the sae& committee upon the Scotch Entail Bill, which he would move for further consideration on Tuesday next. A noble lord, whose name we could not learn, pre sented several petitions from the county of Monaghan against tithes, and for the repeal of the union.. The latter player he could not support. Witnesses and counsel in favour of the Warwick Bill were then recalled, and the house was left 'sitting. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER resumed the Chair at a quarter past five. A Message from the Lords announced that their lordships had agrea to the Edinburgh and Dalkeith Railway, and other bills. Colonel WILLIAMS gave notice that on Thurs.. day week he should move for leave to bring in a bill for the repeal of the Royal Marriage . Act. Mr. MIL DMA Y presented t. petition from Win chester in support of the establi-Aied church. Mr. WYNDHAM presented a petition from the Dissenters of Norwich, praying. to be relieved from the disabilities affecting that body. Mr. Alderman WOOD presented a petition from the Wa f ermen's Company, praying to be heard by e° 1111 :,e1 against the Lord's Day Observance Bill. Sir RUFANE DONKIN presented a petition from the churchwardens and others of Berwick against the increase of beer-shops. Colonel PERCEVAL presented a petition from a parish in the county of Sligo, on the subject of the Irish Tithe Bill. Mr. BAINES presented a petition from Tiverton against the Church Rates Bill. - Mr. STANLEY, on renewing his notice relative to the Lancaster Court of Common Pleas Bill, begged to ask the right hon. Secretary for Ireland when he ;ntended to proceed with the committee on the Irish Tithe Bill. Mr. L ITTLETON said it would be impossible to proceed with it before Friday, as it was expedient that the Poor Laws' Bill should be finished before that day. It was their intention to proceed further with it on Saturday morning. Mr. GISBORNE begged to ask whether the noble lord would proceed with the Church Rates Bill on Monday ? Lord A LTHORP said that they were anxious to get through with the Poor Laws' Bill before they proceeded with th e Ch urc h R a t es Bill. Sir J. G RAH AM said it would be extremely incon veni'.'-nt to proceed with a bill such as the Irish Tithe bill on Saturday. ( Hear.) Lord ALTH 0 R P said they would proceed with the Irish Tithe Bill on Friday euening, and the house would be able to decide upon their further proceedings when they had seen what progress would be made on Friday evening. Mr. O'C ONNELL expressed his determination to I - ring the substance and principle of the bill before the house. COERCION BILL, IRELAND. Colonel PE RC E VAL begged to ask the right hon. Secretary for Ireland, when he intended to lay the documents upon which he intended to move for a renewal of the Coercion Bill upon the table of the house ? Mr. L Y TTLE TON said the papers would be laid upon the table before any discussion would take place. Mr. SHAWE wished to know if the bill about to be introduced was the same as that of last session. Mr. LYTTLETON did not think that a proper question, and it was one upon which he did not think it his duty to give any information. (Hear, hear). . . Mr. O'REILLY wished to know whether it was the intention of his Majesty's Ministers to put an end to any meetings, if those meetings are calcu lated to disturb the public peace. They had.lately heard of meetings in the north of Ireland, which, from all they knew of that part of the country, were calculated to disturb the public peace, Mr. FINN objected to any meeting being put down either in the north or south of Ireland. ( Cries of "Oh, oh !") Mr. LITTLETON said the question was, whether it was the intention of his Majesty's Government to administer the laws equally and impartially. He thought such a question was quite unnecessary to an swer. ( Hear.) Mr. STANLEY said he had understood the hon. member for Cork had taken upon himself to state that he (Mr. Stanley) had taken some part in the Dun garvon election. He assured the house that such an assertion was utterly without foundation. Mr. O'C ONNELL said he was not in :the house at the time the discussion was going on, but he thought there was nothing in the documents referred to that could justify the introduction of the right hon. gentleman's name. The House then resolved itself into a Committee on the Highways Bill. Mr. Pryme in the chair. The bill was proceeding through committee when we left the house. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, June 24. EAST INDIA PRODUCE. Mr. ENV ART then rose to move a resolution, " that the rates of duty imposed on articles, the pro duce of our eastern possessions, ought, with the least possible delay, to be reduced to an equality with the rates levied on articles the produce of the other pos sessions of Great Britain." The principal articles on which those duties were levied were sugar, coffee, pepper and pimento, tobacco, rum, and timber. With regard to sugar, on that brought from the East Indies was charged with a duty of 325. per cwt., while that from the western colonies was only charged 245. per cwt. Was not this a gross violation of jus tice ? The operation of this tax acted most mis chievously on the sugar refineries of this country, and the consequence was, that this branch of trade was leaving our shores, and going to countries where it was more favoured. The next article was coffee. Coffee from the West Indies was charged 6d. per lb., while that from the East Indies was 9d. per lb. With regard to tobacco, it paid 3s. per lb., while the tobacco of the North American Colonies only paid 2s. 9d. Pepper and pimento from the West Indies paid only sd. per lb. of duty, while that from the East Indies paid Is. Since the last reduction in the rate of duty, the consumption had greatly increased. The duty was formerly 2s. 6d. per lb.; it was now only 1 s., and the increase in consumption exceeded the proportion of the reduction. That was a reason why the duties should be further reduced. The same ap plied to the article of rice, the consumption of which had greatly increased since the reduction of the duty. The last article to which he would allude was ruin, which, from the West India colonies, was charged 9s. per gallon of duty, while that from the East Indies was charged no less than 15s. This was such a marked and glaring injustice that it ought to be the first to be redressed. He knew well that those who advocated the cause of the West India proprietors would now appeal to the compassion of the house, as they had formerly done ; but he (Mr. Ewart) thought it was - time for them to be silent, now that Parliament, in a fit of unexampled generosity, had given them twenty millions of money. He hoped this monopoly would be no longer tolerated. He trusted that the govern ment would take the subject under consideration dur ing the recess, and at once do away with the monstrous injustice of these discriminating duties. The hon. member concluded by moving the resolution which he had previously read. Mr. O'C ONNE L L then rose and said that such an important motion should not be discussed with so thin an attendance of members, and moved that the house be counted. _ ..,. The house was accordingly counted, and, 40 mem. bers not being present, adjourned at seven o'clock. HOUSE OF LORDS, June 24. The house met shortly after four o'clock. ESTABLISHED CHURCH. Petitions in support of the Established Church were presented from parishes in Cumberland and North ampton, by the Bishop of DURHAM ; from Plympton and ether places in Devon, by Lord Rout ; and from places in Warwick, by th e D u k e o f WELLINGTON. COUNT\ RATES. The Make of RICHMOND, as chairman of the CoVrity Rate Committee, laid upon their lordships' table the first report of the committee, which was ordered to be printed. The Duke of NEWCASTLE presented a petition from Sir H arcour t L ees ag ai n st th e claim o 1 the bis, I senters, and in favour of the Established Chtireti and I a similar petition from a etergyriran in the West Riding of Yorkshire., `CLAIMS OF DISSENTERS. Tire Bishop of L L AND AFF said that in presenting petitions intrusted to him against the claims of the Dissenters, he was anxious to explain what his opinions were and the grounds upon which he intended to support the prayer of the petition, and he begged to state that he was not actuated, neither were the petitioners actuated by any ill-feeling ,towards the parties agai ns t w h om t h e pet i t i on was directed. ( Rear, hear, hear.) The first ground he took was against the admission of the bissenters to the degrees of tlie Universities ; secondly, and which he believed *as indisputable, that religion was an essen tial part of education, and that the admission of per sons indiscriminately, without regard to their religious opinions, was destructive of that principle, for it was impossible to contend, with any degree of truth, that persons could be admitted, of 'various religions persuasions, without abandoning that most sa cred branch of education—religion. ( Hear, hear.) In his opinion it *as most desirable to make religion A peimanent branch of education. ( Hear, hear.) H e Wished to see religion and education go hand in hand. The LORD CHANCELLOR agreed with the right reverend prelate that nothing was more desirable than that education and religion should go hand in hand. No man concurred more than he did in the course adopted by the Universi ties of Oxford and Cambridge, and King's Col lege, to admit no persons but those who belonged to the church within their walls ; but that was no reason why the Dissenters, a large and opulent body, should not have a University for themselves, and it was no reason why the London University should be closed against Dissenters. In his opinion the man who would say that it was unfair to found a university for Dissenters was more fit for a Museum than rational society. ( Laughter. ) The Bishop of LLANDAFF begged to correct the noble and learned lord : he had never made any ob servation against the London University. The LORD CHANCELLOR said that over the way ( Westminster Abbey) they ,had heard duets and trios, but it was general in that house to speak one at a time. As he had said before, where parties agreed in every respect with the sentiments of the church, he advised them to go to King's College, but where they did not, they had surely the right of being educated at the London University. The Bishop of LLANDAFF was sure that the strictures of the noble and learned lord upon the address he had made were founded upon an inattention of the statements he had made. He had brought no charge whatever against the London University. The Duke of WELLINGTON considered that nothing could be more inconvenient than discussing subjects of the importance of the present upon the presentation of petitions. He should have thought that the noble lord on the woolsack would have extended his protection to the Universities rather than cavil with the sentiments expressed by the right rev. prelate. The LORD CHANCELLOR must say, if the noble duke had acquired logic at the Uni versity of Oxford (hear), he had not acquired the faculty of attention. If the noble duke had at tended to what he stated, he would not have made the observations he had done. With respect to the charge made by the noble duke against him of raising a debate or the presentation of petition, he had only to say, and he was sure the noble duke was not aware of it, that the right rev. prelate had attacked him in his own words. He had always been a great friend to the London University, though he was, perhaps, not so great a man there as the noble duke was at Oxford. He had no doubt that his presence at Oxford would not have created a greater sensation of astonish ment than his Royal Highness's presence at their meetings at the university. ( Hear, hear, andlaughter.) He believed his Royal Highness had been invited to attend ( Continued laughter), and although he had not attended, he (the Lord Chancellor) had no doubt but that the university had had the illustrious duke's good wishes, as far at least as his conscience would allow him. On one occasion, however, when there was an illustrious branch of the oyal Family , present, and when his noble friend the Secretary of the Home Depart ment was present also, upon that occasion, and upon ' a former occasion, when all the subscribers were together, he had mentioned Oxford and Cambridge in terms of the greatest respect. He asserted that as a fact, and that the mention was received with applause, and that the mention of Oxford produced not one expression of disrespect on that occasion. But the order of things was different on the banks of the Isis (Much laughter), such decorum was not indi genous to the shady retreats of the muses who haunted that classic stream. Upon one occasion—when there was no excuse for the hilarity of the evening, which was not so favourable to the effusion of classic strains, but in the morning, when the air was free from all vapours except those of theological controversy ( Laughter) and political feeling—upon that occasion to which he referred, unrestrained by the presence, unawed by the grave aspects of illustrious dukes, arch bishops, bishops, deans, and learned doctors, an ancient, and, he believed, a very ancient—a harmless, an in finitely harmless—an ancient and established practice ( Laughter) which he would be the last person to blame, and which he would only further describe as a peculiar and well-known, though not exceedingly delicate mode of saluting a person, was resorted to. (Laughter.) As certain individuals were named in those academic retreats, the feeling which their mention excited in those present got vent in the pecu liar manner he had stated (Laughter), certainly very harmless, and moreover it was in very good company. Perhaps a more harmless practice could not come across a more academic assembly. He should not give his opinion about the universities. He was not called upon to do so, and he was resolved not to say any thing of them then, either well or ill. He had not adverted to them in the manner which the noble duke ascribed to him. The right rev. prelate made certain observations as to the subscription of articles, which led him to comment on them, not as against Oxford, but as against the right rev. prelate's explanations. All that he wished in rising was to relieve himself from the unexpected charge, first, that it was out of the way to debate a subject on the presentation of a petition, whereas he was only asserting and defending his own opinion ; and secondly, that he was endea vouring to pull down the universities of Oxford and Cambridge, when all that he had said had been in fa vour of Cambridge and Oxford. ( Hear, hear.) The petition was then laid upon the table. BRITISH SOLDIERS AT MALTA. The Earl of WINC H IL SE A presented a petition from Captain Aitcheson, against the practice of com pelling soldiers to pay any respect to Roman Catholic ceremonies in foreign countries, and also praying for compensation for the loss of his commission by the sentence of a courtmartial at Malta. The noble earl went into the circumstances of this case, and said that Captain Aitcheson and another officer were cashiered for having refused to perform certain ceremonies of the Roman Catholic Church. He should leave the case entirely in the hands of his Majesty's government. The Duke of WELLINGTON stated that the oc currence of which the petition complained took place in 1823, when he (the noble duke) was Master-Ge neral of the Ordnance. The petitioner was not tried, as he stated, for refusing to ring a bell in honour of the anniversary of some saint, but for refusing to give or der to ring those bells. The governor of the island had directed this ringing, and the petitioner had, on previous occasions, obeyed similar orders given to him by his commanding officer. The courtmartial had been ordered by General Sir Thomas Maitland, and the sentence had received the approbation of his Ma jesty. The petitioner and his brother officer were not called upon to attend divine service, but merely to discharge a military duty ; there was no act of the mind. He must further observe, that if due honour and respect were not paid by the military to the church ceremonies in foreign countries, in some cases there would be a positive breach of treaty, and in others much prejudice, and perhaps unpleasant collisions might be caused. The people in foreign countries expected every respect to be paid to their re ligion, and he therefore trusted that his Majesty's Government would not give any such directions as the noble earl wished. He also begged them to observe, that if the officers were allowed to recede from the performance of their duties on the plea of conscience, the regulations of the army would be at an end. As to the recommendation of the noble earl, that com pensation should be allowed, he must oppose any such thing, and for this reason—that even under other cir cumstances such a course was seldom desirable ; but here, in the artillery service, where officers paid not a shilling for their commissions, it would be absolutely improper. Earl GREY said, after the clear and matter-of fad statement made by the noble duke, it Would be unnecessary for hlth to bay more than a word or two finSwer to the noble earl who had presented the pe tition. The case had been under his attention, and knowing who was at the head of the ordnance, and who was at the head of the army, at the time when the circumstances arose, he had no doubt in his own mind that justice had been done ; but in consequence of the statements made to him by the noble earl, he had carefully looked into the case, and the result was, that he felt more convinced than ever of the propriety of the course which had been pursued. It appeared plainly in evidence that there had been a gross breach of orders, a direct act of insubordination, which called for instant reprehension. ( frigr.9 He begged to ob serve that the case had not bfldn'Sfated to their lord ships on right grounds, for he totally denied that these officers had been called on to participate in any religious ceremony whatever : they were only directed to pay a mark of honour—to obey orders which had before been given. The noble duke had truly stated the high im portance in our colonies of respecting the religious feelings of the people ; and he ( Earl Grey) perfectly concurred in his opinion, that it would be most unde sirable to make any alteration in the practice as at present established. Any departure from the rule now observed could not but have results of the most serious character. He felt sorry that officers who had so long held his Majesty's commission, and, according to the no ble earl, meritoriously held it up to the time the present transaction took place, should be thus situated ; but he felt satisfied that strict justice had been meted out, and that if their lordships interfered they would be inflict ing a serious blow on the necessary discipline of the service. Under such circumstances he felt it his duty to allow the matter to rest as it was. The Earl of WINCHILSEA and the Duke of WEL LINGTON mutually explained, and the petition was or dered to lie upon the table. CIVIL OFFICES PENSION BILL. The order of the day for their lordships going into a committee of the whole house on this bill having been read, Earl GREY said that as the bill had been read a second time without any explanation being given of its objects, he would occupy the attention of their lordships for a couple of moments, whilst he gave an outline of its provisions. The object of the bill was to supersede a bill passed in 1817, which authorised the crown to grant twenty- two pensions to certain civil officers retirinc , from active service. The b ill before their lordships divided these officers into classes. Those in the first class might receive pen sions to the amount of 3,0001. per annum, after two years' service ; those in the second, which were the Secretary for Ireland, and the Secretary at War, 2,0001. per annum after three years' service ; those in the third class, the Secretaries to the Treasury and the Admiralty, were limited to 1,5001. per annum, after five years' service ; and those in the 4th class to 1,0001. per annum, after ten years' service, and in cluded such officers as the clerk of the Ordnance, and Under Secretary of State—making in the whole a sum of 42,000/., which effected a saving on the former bill of 9,000/. per annum. I , lFrotri arrangements which were making, however, he had a confident anticipation that they would be enabled very materially still further to increase the amount of reductions. The Duke of WELLINGTON said that the bill of 1817 had been greatly, and very unjustly abused, for its principle was good, and it had been found to work well for the public service. Any one, too, that would read its preamble, would find that the bill then before their lordships was unfair in its principle; for there was, in fact, a description of bargain at present existing in respect to the 22 pensions granted under the old act. He contended that the pensions to be granted under the present bill would be wholly in adequate in amount, inasmuch as no persons would be induced to take office, more especially when, as was now found to be the case, it was so difficult to get into the House of Commons a second time. There would be no inducement, as before, to barristers of rising character to abandon their profession, or for men of small fortune to aspire to the service of the crown. Now, although the service of the crown in England was certainly a service of honour, yet still a man who had entered into that service, and who had remained in it for some years, ought not to be left at the end of that period in the same situation with respect to for tune, as if he had done no service at all. This was the {` more to be deprecated, considering the course which had been recently - pursued by the /louse of Commons, not merely of recommending individuals s to the crown for reward, but of actually invading the prerogatives of the crown, and rewarding those in dividuals contrary to the wishes of the crown. The LORD CHANCELLOR admitted that he could not close his eyes to what had been going on for the last three or four years, and that it was impossible that he could entertain the same jealousy of the power of the Crown now as he did four years ago. Since that period the power of the Crown had been so fenced round, and its influence cut down, and so many other great changes, in all which he concurred, had taken place, that the effect was, that we were no longer living in such times as those in which Mr. Dunning moved " that the power of the Crown had increased, was increasing, and ought to be diminished ;" or, as those in which he (the Lord Chancellor) had made a similar motion, which he believed was in the year 1822, or in the last year of the Marquis London derry's administration. He no longer, therefore, as serted the proposition that any danger to the constitu tion was to be apprehended on the side of the Crown. God forbid that the people of England, either by their representatives, or without their representa tives, should ever cease to guard against the encroach ments of the Crown. But it would be a delusion if he were to say that he thought any apprehensions were to be entertained from that quarter at present. The passing of the Reform Bill, and the great in crease of the constituency in Ithe , House of Commons, operated as a defence againstrquiy such danger. On the bill under their lordships' consideration, and on the principle upon which it was founded, he always entertained great doubts. He could not help consi dering that the bill known by the name of Mr. Bankes's bill, which was passed in 1817, was one of the greatest innovations on the constitution—was one of the widest departures from the principles of our an cestors, that had ever occurred. Sinecure places there certainly were at that time—places that were not originally sinecure places, but that were originally working places, which were given as endowments to public men for whom there was no other mode of pro viding. On the abolition of those sinecures it was said that it was necessary to provide a similar fund ; and the argument, a very catching one to the liberals, who were the most rigorous in their denunciations against pensions and sinecures, was this—if you will not furnish the means of rewarding for their services, men of no private fortune, who accept public situations, you must not expect that any persons will accept pub lic situations but men of large fortune ; you will, in fact, give a monopoly of public situations to the aristo cracy of the country. It must be recollected that the occupation of a statesman was no profession or trade. Undoubtedly, too, lawyers and divines, and merchants, men of various professions and trades, had taken a part in the struggle for the management of public affairs ; there was no class of persons who devoted themselves to the occupation of statesmen as a pro fession. If, however, they were to say that there should be no recompense for the services of men who had held public situations, it would be tantamount to saying that none but men of fortune should hold public situations. Yet he could at once name six or seven prime ministers, the most distinguished among those of whom England could boast, who were men of little or no fortune. There was the first Lord Chatham, the first Lord Holland, Mr. Pitt, who, although the younger son of an earl, was a barrister on the Western Circuit ; both the Lords Liverpool, whom he would reckon as one ( A laugh), Lord Grenville, Mr. Can ning, Lord Sidmouth, Mr. •Perceval, who was also at the bar, and others. With the exception, indeed, of Sir Robert Walpole, who had a small patrimony; of Mr. Pulteney, who had a patrimony which was not small ; of Mr. Pelham, and of his noble friend at the head of the present administration, there was scarcely an instance of a prime minister who hadL not r been born to a large fortune ; he could not even except the noble duke near him, for he was a younger brother, and compelled to follow a profession like himself. ( Several noble lords here mentioned the names of Lord North, the Earl of Bute, and the Duke of Grafton.) There certainly might be more exceptions, but undoubtedly seven or eight of the most brilliant men amongst those who had been at the head of the councils of this country, were individuals who had not been born to fortune. Nor could it be supposed that the existence of sinecures had the effect of calling them into the , public service. It was a curious fact that one of those sinecures had been granted to Lord North, who was one of the most wealthy of the class. The first Lord Chatham had also had a pension ; but neither the first Lord Holland nor his son, nor Mr. Dunning, had had a pension or sinecure. The Marquis of Camden and the Marquis of Buckingham had pen sions. Mr. Pitt had a sinecure—the wardenship of the Cinque Ports. But it was not the hope of pensions or sinecures which enticed any of those individuals into the service of the country. ( Hear, hear.) Undoubtedly those rewards, if they were to be given at all, ought to be given fairly. Were they ever given to those who, in the discharge of their duty to the public, opposed Government ? Mr. Dunning might have kept moving to the end of time that the influence of the Crown was increasing, and he would never have received any sinecure. ( A noble lord ob served that Mr. Dunning had been made Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster.) Aye, but that was as a compensation to him for giving up a lucrative profes sional practice. ( Hear, hear, from the Duke of Wel lington.) The effect of. Mr. Bankes's bill, therefore, in his opinion, was to make a politician a trader ; to make a man who entered on public service a political adventurer. The withholding from public servants re muneration as a matter of right, and leaving them to be rewarded by those casual pensions, rendered them subservient to those in the highest authority. A young man said to himself, " I must please the Minister ; lam not a lord ; I was not born to a great estate ; I must recommend myself to the Government ; I may begin by being a puisne Lord of the Admiralty, I may then be a Secretary of the Treasury, then a secretary at war, then a Cabinet Minister, and I may at last, perhaps, obtain a small remuneration for my services." It was only by pleasing the highest au thorities that such an end was now to be achieved. Talk of consuming the midnight oil! A man might waste all the oil in his cruet, he might sweat, with labour until there was no more sweat to come out, he might utterly exhaust himself in his efforts to serve the public, and receive no relief, except from the poor-house, unless he could make himself acceptable to the minister, and obtain a place. Nay, if he agreed with the minister, and was put into an office, and if a week after he differed from the minister, out of that office he must go. It was necessary for him, there fore, to keep his conscience under a bushel for three or four years, or he stood no chance of any ultimate reward. On these grounds he had been of opinion that Mr. Bankes's bill far from improved the pre ceding state of things ; and he thought the present bill a great improvement upon Mr. Bankes's bill, inasmuch as it left things in not so bad a state as that did. _ _ The bill was then considered in committee ; but the report was not received. WARWICK DISFRANCHISEMENT BILL. Lord WYNFORD sat as Speaker. Counsel were called in on the Warwick Disfranchisement Bill, and several witnesses were examined. At ten o'clock fur ther proceedings were postponed until to-morrow at four o'clock ; and their Lordships adjourned. COURT OF KING'S BENCH, JUNE 24. (Before the Loan CHIEF JUSTICE and a Special Jury. ) THE KING V. JADIS AND ANOTHER. This was a prosecution preferred by Mr. Carmichael Smith against the defendants, Messrs. Jadis and Ne venson, joint paymasters of exchequer bills, charging them with conspiring to deprive him of his situation of joint paymaster by means of a false and libellous letter. The facts of this case have been before the public on several occasions. Lord DENMAN, before the Attorney-General could address the jury for the defence, did not see any thing to support this prosecution for conspiracy ; and the Jury found the defendants Not Guilty. BIGG 51. LEEDHAM AND HUGHIII. This was an action of trespass brought by the plain tiff, a tradesman residing in the Harrow-road, against the defendant, for breaking and entering his dwelling house, and taking away a quantity of cheese. The Jury found for the plaintiff—Da mages 100/. PREROGATIVE COURT, JUNE 24. LEWIS V. BAINBRIDGE AND BAINBRIDGE. This was a question on the admission of an allega tion propounded as one of the last testamentary acts of the deceased party in the cause, Mr. T. Bain bridge, in a letter addressed to his executors, con taining certain alterations and instructions relative to his property. The deceased executed several testa mentary papers, his will bearing date on the 26th of November, 1827. The paper propounded as being entitled to probate would make various alterations in the mode of distribution. The personal pro perty of the deceased amounted to 50,0001., and he had also a freehold estate in the county of Surrey. The admissibility of the allegation was opposed. Dr. LUSHINGTON, for the executors named in the will of the deceased, opposed the admission of the allegation, and contended that the deceased having executed so many testamentary papers, he could not have intended this letter of instructions to be acted upon, affecting, as it did, some of the distributions in the will and codicils. Sir JOHN NicnoLL would admit the allegation to proof. GOLDSMID V. SALOMONS. This was also a question on the admissibility of an allegation propounding the draft of a will as the last testamentary act of the deceased, Mrs. Sarah Eliason. The draft of a will had been prepared by the deceased, and given to her solicitor to prepare an instrument for execution ; but before this was done she was taken ill and became a lunatic. The property of the deceased amounted to about 6,0001. . _ _ Sir J. Nicnou., after hearing counsel, admitted the allegation to proof. INSOLVENT DEBTORS' COURT, JUNE 24. James Buggins, late of the neighbourhood of War wick, farmer, was opposed by Mr. WOODROFFE on the part of two creditors named Linforth and Hackelt. He was supported by Mr. COOKE. The insolvent was before the court some time ago, when his petition was dismissed ; he had remained in prison from that period. The insolvent had been an extensive farmer, and the opposing creditor Linforth rented a small adjoining farm of the same landlord, Mr. Hackelt, the other opposing creditor. The insolvent, who is a married man, seduced his only daughter, Mary Linforth, and had a child by her. An action was brought to recover compensation, and the cause was, by consent, referred to arbitration, and a sum of 901 : was awarded to Mr. Linforth; the costs amounted to 311., neither of which sums had he received, and the insolvent during the pendency of the suit disposed of the whole of his property to the injury of his creditors. It was complained against the insolvent that he had fraudulently made away with his property, and had rendered himself liable to a remand for the damages recovered in the action for seduction. , It was contended on the part of the insolvent tnat as the proceedings in the cause had been referred, it did not come within the provisions of the statute. The Court held that the opposition for the damages m wa a s de llo a t deration the length of im p risdnment he had alread y w te ay na w bl i e th ; b h u is t ptrhoepairtynso,lvanendt, thaakdiagfrianutdoucleonntsliy. suffered, sentenced him to four calendar months' im prisonment. - - POLICE INTELLIGENCE. MANSION-HOUSE. The man who calls himself Willi am Jackson, and stands charged with having robbed Messrs. Harvey and Co.'s banking-house at Bungay, was brought up for further examination. The LORD MAYOR asked whether there was any fur ther evidence to produce of the plunder of the Bungay Bank before he sent the prisoner to Suffolk ? Daniel Forrester apprehended there was not any other testi mony at hand, but he had been given to understand that there were several persons at Bungay who could add to the evidence given that the prisoner was in the immediate neighbourhood of the banking-house before the robbery was committed, and was not seen there afterwards. The LORD MAYOR—Is there any other charge against him ? Daniel Forrester had a very serious charge to make against the prisoner, which he thought proper not to mention during the previous investiga tion. In the year 1829 ',the prisoner committed a robbery in the St. Neott's banking-house, Hunting don, to the amount of between 7,0001. and 8,0001. He then went by the names of Clifford, Bugsby, and several other names, which he assumed and cast off according to the places he visited. His real name, in which he was convicted at the Assizes at Huntingdon, was Hollinshead. Witness had been employed to look after the thieves who had committed this exten sive depredation, and succeeded in apprehending the prisoner, who was convicted by the clearest evidence, notwithstanding which he had been since his convic tion at his old work. The LORD MAYOR—He was, of course, sentenced to transportation for life ? Witness replied in the affirmative. The LORD MAYOR—Does the prisoner wish to say any thing ? Mr. Wooler (for the prisoner)--Not in this stage of the inquiry. Your Lordship can, if you please, re mand the prisoner. The LORD MAYOR—I know I can, and I shall not easily let him go. The prisoner was then remanded. GUILDHALL. Yesterday George Wright, alias Swainson, alias Alfred Thrussel, was charged with stealing a chesnut gelding, which he was attempting to sell to a cab driver for about half its value. Mr. Alderman VENABLES committed the prisoner.. MARLBOROUGH-STREET. Clara Mau Benson, a fashionably-attired female, about twenty-eight years of age, was charged on suspi cion of stealing a gold seal, answering the purposes of a watchkey and stamp. The offence was committed in the Bazaar, Soho square. The lady, amongst other stalls, examined some articles at that of a Miss List. After inspecting several articles, according to the evidence of the porter she took the seal while Miss List was engaged, and placed it in her left glove ; she shortly afterwards left the stall, when she was stopped, and told that she•had taken something that did not belong to her. The lady denied it most positively, and consented to be searched, which was done, and no property found ; but on ex amining the parasol which she carried the seal was found there. Mr. Porter, a friend o f th e l a dy, su bmitted that the article might have dropped by accident. She was remanded till to-day. THE MARKETS. COUNTRY CORN MARKETS-DURING THE WEEK; Wheat. Barley. Oats.. • Bea4d. Per Quarter. Boeton Gainsborough Grantham Grimsby Horncastle-. . Lincoln dth ford. York 8. to 8. ; 8. to 8. 40 50 26 32 57 34 46 50 70 30 40 46 24 28 44 47 24. 28 42 50 26 " 33 45 • 47 24 28 45 50 26 29 46 56 :4 30 s. to s. 16 :2 s. to F. 35 38 17 21 16 18 17 21 18 25 16 18 16 24 13 22 se 34 32 36 28 30 36 39 32 38 38 40 24 &I NORWICH, June 21. Wh,at (per qr.) —40 s 60:, Beans tper yr.) 3`ts 345. Barley 21s. 265. 365. Pease, 3rey 36s 475. Oats CANTERBURY, June2l, Wheat, white--- 570. to Ms. —O. to —S. red 48a. to tios to ..-11 Barley, Malting 26s to 325. Grinding.. Ws. to 275. Oats . Oos to 1.5 s Old -20 s; to 291. 31s to 355...,.... to Beans Pease _ 30s. to 36.3. Grey no; ii,34/. - - ---- - MANCHESTER, June 21. Wheat, per 70Ib. 85. Od. to Bs. 2d. R e d 111.04. to Bg. 3a. Barley, per 6011) 5 0 5 6 Oats 3 2 3 2 Beans, per Imperial quarter - Pease, White, per Imperial bushel 5 0 .5 3 Malt, per 6 Imperial bushels 3B 0 4.1 . 2 0 Flour, per Sack of 280 lb 4O 0 40 0 IRISH MARKETS. DUBLIN MARKET NOTE.—Freinve, Juni,2o From I o Average. 518 Wheat, per barrel 20 stone 20 0 'A 6 27 6 , 0 Bele l6 stone 0 0 0 0 20 Barley l6 stone 14 6 0 0 1,282 Oats 12 stone 12 6 15 0 13 10 11,647 Cwt. 9 stonet 7 0 19 0 0 547 Oatmeal 8 stone 113 0 16 0 14 sold to Makers only. 9,515 Cwt. Flom II3 0 19 0 aw 11 Average price of Wheat and Flour 403. Oil. per sac*. , - Firsts, from 17s. to 19s. ng• Receipts of Flour, 10,92ol secootht from 13,. ad. to 166.1341. Sales of Do. 11,627 Third ,. from 7a; 04. to 106 Od. Quartern Loaf, PRICE OF Rh ew ID• H .1 Quartern CORK MA RKEI 3.--June 21. Wheat (per 20st.) Barley t per l6st.) Oats (per 14st.) Flour per cwt.) i 6 0 16 6 Oatmeal (per cwt.) lO 0 11 0 Beef, sd. to tid. ; Mutton, sd. to 6d. ; Veal, 6d. to Bd. ; Pork, 2d. to ad. ; Fresh Butter, lOd. to 12d. per lb. MC& OF BitITER. To the Merchants. To the Cou ntry. First Quality 7os. .....„.... ...... .. .... 60s. Second 5B 6FI ..... ........ ........... 47 Third 57 Fourth 47 ....... ....... —... ..... 37 Fifth 34 26 Sixth CLONMELL MARKETS.—June 20. Per Cwt. s. d. s, d. s. d. a. d 6 New Butter 7O oto7o 0 Hides (raw) noto si Oatmeal l'i 3 i:7 6 Bacon Pigs .6 0 21 5 'tendered Lard... 33 0 34 0 tieftdit 16 0 -- 0 Per 'Bag. Hour, Second .... 0 29 of 1 . 'our, Thirds 24 0 -- I ) —Household— u 27 0 ' Fourths 10 0 0 Per Darre l. Bore TO g 11 0 Coa lsarle Bar le y 11 6 ..... 0 32 3 4 Per Stone. \Vheat I n 1 3iTallow (rough)... 6 6 0 0 Oats 0 7 08l Potatoes 0 4 0 6 Per Pound. Fresh Butter 1 I I 211\1 . 1;iion Beef 0 0 6j Veal 0 0 0 BIRTHS. On the 22d inst., at Skelbrooke Park, the Lady Louisa Cator, of a son. On the 22d inst., at Bower Hall, the lady of Charles Drummond, Esq., of a son. On the 21st inst., at Abingdon Hall, Cambridge, Mrs- Norris, of a still-born male child. On the 21st inst., Mrs. Robert Dodson, of a daughter. On the 21st inst., at Southrepps, Norfolk, the lady of the Rev. John Dolphin, of a daughter. On the 23d inst., in Francis-street, Bedford•square, the lady of John Waite, Esq., of a daughter. On the 20th inst., at Melbury-terrace, Dorset-square, Mrs. Henry H a y, of a daughter. On the 20th inst., in Cumberland-terrace, Regent's park, Mrs. W. S. Browning, of a daughter. On the 20th inst., Mrs. J. R. Houghton, of Earl-street, Blackfriars, of a son. On the 21st inst., in Chester-street, Grosvenor-place, the lady of John Key, Esq., of a son. On the 20th inst., at Warwick, the lady of Charles Woodmass, Esq., of a son. On the 21st inst., at Stourbridge, Mrs. Philip Wocie house, of a daughter. On the 20th inst., the Countess of Sheffield, of a son• The Lady Louisa Pole, of a daughter. On the 19th inst., the lady of John Labouchere, Esq., of a daughter. On the 19th inst., Mrs. Alexander Black, of Tavistock street, Covent-garden, of a MARRIED. On the 23d inst., at St. Matthew's, Brixton, s C to h n ar e l b e y s Marion, second son of Marion Welstead. Hall, Huntingdonshire, to Frances, o nly E da q ug ' liter of the late Wm. George, Esq., of 13ythorn, Northamptonshire. On the 14th inst., at East Budleigh, Devon, Edward F. Crosse, Esq., only son of the Rev. Edward Crosse, of Colchester, to Catherine Eleanor, daughter of the late Captain Thomas Seth, of the 59th Regiment. On the 2.3 d inst., at Paddington Church, Mr. W. Hooper, to Helen, only daughter of Mr. Anderson,•en gineer, Paddington. On the 21st inst., at Ealing, F. A. B. Bonney, Esq.' °,. f Isleworth, Esq., to Maria Catherine, e ld es t d a u g hter (:), William Ralphs, of Brentford. • On the 4th inst., at the Protestant Church at Ail' Bouches-du-Rhone, France, Monsieur P. Gourrier, avocat, of that place, to Miss Selina Rudhall, ;ormerly of Bristol. On the 19th inst., at St. George's, Bloomsbury. 'lr- William Bonni we ll , o f B rompton, ant, to Mrs. .Ayle s, °. King-street, High Holborn. On the 19th inst., at St. Sepulchre's, London, the Rev. James Cox, A.M., o f Christchurch College, Oxford, eldest son of John Cox, Esq., of that city, to Sarah Eliza beth, eldest daughter of Mr. Charles Herring, of Hornsey road, Holloway. On the 18th inst. at South Stoneham, Hants,Willjam Hallett; Esq., of inst., near Southampton, to Mar Jane, eldest daughter of John Croudace, Esq., surgeon, 4.) Bishopwearmouth, Durham. On the 16th inst., at St. Andrew's Church,,Newcastle n Esq., of Nesham-hall, upon-Tyne, Thomas Durham, to Rebecca NGVrilic-g hhris°t, 'dau , g N g of the late Wsn• Potter, Esq., of Walbottle-house, orthumberland. John Gia m Anderson, organ sh ir e E 0, s i i r l i f r.. William .------------__ DIED. On thethe tegath irtsea, Hants. r 1 ‘l ahi se On the 15th ins t., at Hambur g , Mrs. L y dia Prescott, w idow of the late Joh n Pre scott , Esq. , of St. Pe tersburgli, n 82,t khi inst., aninsd, .f t a o, t r maßtelacyik of Portsea, aged 76. -On the 22d inst., in Michael's-place, Brompton , M I: William Blore, aged 52. of On the 19th inst., Jacob Mendes Da Costs, sue„ B n oo r y nn - S tt t hh r ee e e 1 : 59 , tt S hh t i . inn A s ts l t. a .: r Mary-axe, rt azEillelirnamsagalFledoLsod:sl..ei,ohrs itli T itear. M. A : , On the 2:2d inst., the Rev. William Marsrur' Minister of St. John's Church, Upper Holl ows h i r ' e , Ellen, in 79th year. the wife of Geo. Bustard Greaves, 5c1,:'.,% son of Mr- ' Denham, of Bull-and-Mouth-street, in _. Ed. , t ; On the 15th inst., at Rettendon, Essex, the ev Curteis, aged 38. •" •of the Indian Navy,and of un burn, Esq., late Captain . derdean Larches, in the Fores th cool daughterean, in e same ,_, On the 19th inst , at Gloucester, George Swains li S r . eet in her 13th year. Esq., of Burr-street , Mrs. Elizabeth C d lc of flfield' On the 19th i nst., ra oc , Middlesex, age d 941 ............ ..... On the 19th in Lydia, of John Meta' ' London: Printed and Published by MURDO Y 013146, at the San 05•03, No. 112, Meanie ;: _. '~_ ,~ ~. Y