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' Vill 01 4, -,, .' 8) -- ,7• ....--go. --04‘%, 4 ~. p,s ip \ 4 / 1 44 , SUI~I. . , a 41 -1 .17 ttg NUMBER 10,136. TUESDAY EVENING, MARCH 8, 1825. PRICE SEVENPENcr. VIC7 . 'U4ILLING-OFFICE, March 4, 1825. T i m COMMISSIONERS for VICTUAL LING Ills MAJESTY'S NAVY, Bre. do hereby give ntice; That on Friday, the llth Instant, they will be Teddy to receive Tenders in writing (sealed up), and treat .I . Or the wnehr=nieutioned Articles, to be delivered into His , Vraiesty's Victualling Stores at Deptford, via.:— Articles. Quantitiei. Periods of Delivery. " 200 Sacks by the 6UO Sacks 21st March, and the remainder by theist April. rOne-half of each i - 4,400 Sacks by the Ist April, - 50 Tons and the other - 20 Tons half by the Ist May. - 5 Tons ( Within I Month - 5,000 Yards -; from the date of - 5,000 - t the Contracts. -rtot.7R (Kilo- dried) - Eiscurr MEAL - .OAT:MEAL MOTTLED SOAP 11:'T'I'ER - - IA.LICO - - PLANN EL - samples of the Oatmeal will be .riiicirerl to be produced 46 t4ik e Tenders; but Samples of the Soap, Calico, and Flan *it,' be exhibited at this Office. •rhe Conditions of the Contracts may be seen at this Office Each Tender must specify the Price in words at leo . 4th, aPuf be delivered before one o'CloFh on the dart appointed and the Person who makes the Tender, or some Person on his behalf; must attend to answer when called for. dr..ILLER CLIFTON. TERMINATION OP LOTTERIES. DISH, of the Old State Lottery Officeß, 4, CORNHILL, and 9, CHARING-CROSS, having Published at. length the Scheme of the Present Lottery, now merely directs the attention of his best Friends, the Public, to the number and amount of the Prizes it contains, and its general arrangement. There are Four Capitals of £20,000 Prizes, and Thirty others of .C2OOO, £tooo, £5OO, &c. £lOO,OOO is apportioned for smaller Prizes, and there are no Blanks, ai every Num berk sure - of £5 at least. The whole gum of .£200,000 will US distributed in One Dity, 12th of APRIL. v ' l %' BISH deems it requisite . to apprize his Friends, that 4 3 is one of the few opportunities that can be offered them, Tt :ereby a large fortune utay be gained by a trifling risk.— e Chancellor of the Exchequer has disposed of the Last of "e Tickets granted by Parliament, and hai officially an 44"ced in time House of Commons, that he will nut propose 'allotlier Lottery Bill, so that in n ' few Months this mode of kleenture will cease altogether. A variety o f N um b ers are on S a l e at BISH'S Offi ces , 4, Uornhiu, a nd 9, Charing-Cruss, where, in the sh or t space rThree Months, viz. in October, November, and Decon er last, he shared and sold 2,478 .. a Prize of .£30,000 15,756 No. 699 isool 15,556 And 28 minor Capitals. EXcELLENT COPYHOLD DWELLING-HOUSE, - BETHNAL-GREEN. TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION. - $y Mr. DENT, at the AUCTION MART opposite the B i fizik of England, on Friday, the 11th day of March, at 12 l el "k„ by order of the Trustees of the late MI. Dockwray. 11 X Premises consist of an excellent Roomy k "weiling-House, situate No. 20, on the East side and qu.est Part of Bethnal Green, containing two rooms on each ieir stories,.with Kitchen, Wash-house, and other Offices opening into a large Garden, at the bottom of which is 7 b ,'table, havi ng a b ac k en t rance f rom G retton - p l ace ; t h e w h o l e -"` Pod repair, having had a large sum expended by the pre %et Tenant, who has arLease thereof, 8 years of which are expired at the very low Rent of 281. per Annum. The pro tett?, is Copyhold of inheritance held under the Manor of !tepney i subject to a qu it Rent of On e Shilli ng per Annum, ‘ ll 4 a fine of Ten Shillings on death or alienation. 1 , May be viewed by leave of the Tenant, of whom printed 4- itrticulars may be had. Also at the Blind Beggar, near the P r emises ; at the Place of Sale ; of Mr. Wri g h t , S o li c i tor , Stock -11,; of Messrs. Perkins and Frampton, Soli c i tor, G rays I nn ; of Mr. Dent, Land Surveyor, Camden Town. )1 EWSPAPER, INVESTMENT, in 210 Shares of £lOO each, remains open fo r 'appli cat i on un til edne PROPRIETORS 16th of March. .Yh e of A very popular and lu crat i ve :V EEKLY NEWSPAPER are induced to offer it for SALE, 44 210 shares of 1001. each; and, in so doing, have the rare ati tisfaction of being able to appeal to profit actually existing end to prospect -almost certain of attainment. To establish:the Aihility of their plan, it is as unnecessary for them to exagge 'ate existing advantages as to disparage rival pretensions. After recent -intimations as 'to the legality of certain corn tnay be here proper to observe, that newspaper pro- V.is sanctioned by specific legislative enactments. • Pieria the list of severaLpublic companies is in s p ec t e d w h ose ''tria are in productive operation, it will be'found that their 41 ates are ht a premium in all cases when the interest exceeds ), Per cent.; nothing need therefore be stated beyond the Per fact, to prove the _evident desirablenets property w !lielt actually yields 15/. per cent. on the p . roposed total capital, thlth every.prospect of a very considerable increase l 'especially if lune course of independent and liberal principles be ob ,ted which has hitherto ensured success. - ai„he paper in -question has from the beginning been regularly (Jr an eing until-it has attained a circulation for surpassing that all its contemporaries; and this at a period of unrivalled i'44lPetition, and in the absence of those political events which // e a peculiar impetus to. this species of property. - k3l3plications for shares, with full names and address, to be 3:7e by letter, .post-paid, addressed to William, Took e , Es q . Wir go lborn-court, Gray's-Inn, who is instructed to convene .4 in g of persons whose application are receiv e d, an d w h o eerB,4l h h a ve due notice of the time and pl a c e o f h o ldi ng such tli s mana when and w &c. here will be the ful given lest deted T s ofthe expenses, re gement, . he dividends to be paid quarterly or half-yearly as the sh may determine. th e ex en pences, &c. to the time of transfer to be defray e d by 4 Prest proprietors. 11 Plan will be produced at the meetin g by which the share tqamers will be secured from liability exceeding the amount of „ res. 411,trly sha applications will receive a prior consideration ; the N 8 will be closed on the 16th instant. pi oh ° a pplicant fur shares will be considered as bound by his Af te w al, unless. he is fully satisfied with the explanation given. c ll , l r which, 261. on e a ch s h ar e will be requ i re d, an d t h e re tie n tlet on th e comp l et i on o f t h e necessary transfer, which may Qa3:tecated at L a dy-d a y, f rom which date the profits in such ifeorarnnce. 'arch 4 e 1825 . DR. JAMES'S ANALEPTIC PILLS A V E long established their decided snpe -1,,,„ • riority over every other Medicine hitherto discovered cure of Colds, Rheumatic Attacks, Slight Fevers, and Ithq cd all Disord ers ar i s i ng f rom o b structed perspiration, of r_ 11'4 ''"Ntient occurrence in o ur c h angea bl e c li mate. P ersons tlt,, e , ll ing find th em most beneficial;as they are mild i n th e i r ale rt '4 nut to require any confinement. Ft um the derange -4,42 of th e di gestive organs, Bilious and Nervous Disorders, f ect and the consequent result is Ilead•ache, Nausea, De 'Alts!APpetit e, Giddi ness, and Gouty Symptoms; in these degrees e Analepti c Pills afford constant relief, r es t or i ng by 1,,; the functions of the stomach and Bowels. The Ge- L er Dr. Jarngs's Analeptic Pills have the name 1 • F. New irr:..":nagraved in the Government Stamp. This must be oh has imitations are very general. pills, • Newbery Continue to prepare Dr. James's Analep nd: front the only Recipe existing under Dr. James f or 13 _ and they are sold hy them at the Original Warebouse ty j . Jalnes's Powder, N0:45, St. Patil's Church Yard ;. and , Jam 150, Oxford-street, in Boxes at 4s. ed., or Six 'arge De; 14s. ETCHINGS by the late C. MUSS, Enamel Painter to His •• Majesty. Just published, in 4to. nrice 14s. TRTY-THREE ORIGINAL. DESIGNS from GAY'S FABLES, Drawn and Etched by the late C. MUSS. Sold, for the Benefit. of the Widnw and Family, at 53, %%Taro - en-street, Fitzroy-squar e ; at 537, Bazaar,Soho-square; and by J. Lnwford, Saville-place. This Day was published, In Two Volumes, Sin, price 30s. printed uniformly with Matthire's Greek Grammar, A COPIOUS LATIN GRAMMA R . By I. J. G. SCHELLER, Translated from the German, with Alterations, Notes, and Addit ions. 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Also a Series of Examples selected with care, and accommodated to the present state of Trade; are ample under each Rule, and a Question worked to explain each series. 9. A Key, containing the solutions of the Questions given much at length, and in the correct school-form of working, for the greater ease and convenience of general reference; together with additional Questions for the use of Teachers in examining their Pupils, hut not included in the Arithmetic. Price 4s. 6d. bound in blue and lettered. FOR THE SUN. IMPORTANCE OF THE - CATHOLIC•DENOmINA TION. Mr. EDITOR-Mr. CANNING in a late debate, apologized for using the term Catholics as applied to the Irish Papists. This apology was favourable to them; for while the Papists are endeavouring to recover those privileges of which the Constitution of England, for its own safety thought tit to deprive them, is it not matter of wonder that they shotild frame their demands in terms which must necessarily be offensive to those to whom they apply, and who are to grant or refuse assent ? They plead for Emancipation —as if they were held in :la very,—as if their religious worship were not publicly and per. fectly allowed in its fullest freedom, in all its splendours of core. monial rite. They preys to Emancipation the word -Catholic, as if the whole Christian Church was enslaved in England; or as if the King of England and all his subjects were not memberi of the Catholic Church of Christ. If they really wish to be heard with candour, why do they not come forward in sincerity of heart and language, and say :that the Papists wish to share the privileges of Englishmen in corrtuion with the other members of the Christian Church in England ?—But oh! the Papists wish to share the privilegeS of England ? An Englishman believes, and. he enjoys the right of openly declaring, that every man who worships God and trusts in ChriSt, whatever be his mode of worship, is a Chris tian, and a member of the universal Christian Church. This is one of the privileges of Englishmen, which they have enjoyed ever since the ReVolution in 1688. The Papist may believe the same; but does he dare partake the privilege of openly de claring his belief?—He requires to be spared the declaration that the King of England is the head of the Catholic or whole Church of Christ :—will he admit that he is the head of the Protestant Church ? Will he admit that there is such a thing as a Protestant Church ?—lf he will not, how can he pretend to sincerity ? he dare not, how can he, though sincere, ask to share a perfect community with other Englishmen ?—Let him first obtain freedom . (or if he prefers the term, Emancipa tion) at Rome, and he will then justly sue for it in England. A BRITISH CATHOLIC. FOR THE SUN. MR. EDITOR—T feel confident, that neither you, nor any person of candid judgment, will think the Clergy deserving of blame for humbly petitioning the Legislature ag,ainSt the Bill for Catholic Emancipation. You will not, am sure, be influenced by the coarse and violent sarcasms which have been thrown upon our conduct in places, where, from the high rank and polished education of the speakers, we might have expected language of a much more liberal, dignified, and gentlemanly description. At the same time, it has often ap peared to the indiVidual who now addresses you, that in peti tions presented against this Bill there have been inserted ex pressions which might more properly have been.omitted. Let us recollect what is our object in petitioning ;—it is not to utter the language of exasperation, but to speak the dictates of caution ; it is not to restrain the charities of social intercourse, but to act upon the allowable motive of self-defence ; it is not to excite indignation by an allusion to past : events, bnt to ex press our opinions as to the probable effects-of, principles at present maintained. Could I venture to hope, that a sugges tion from me would have any weight with my brethren, 1 would submit, that these petitions should be somewhat to the following effect.:— " We, the Clergy of beg leave humbly to approach your Right Honourable House, and to express our earnest hopes that your Lordships will not deem it expedient to make any further concessions to our Roman Catholic Brethren. We are most anxious that they should ever retain, without the slightest alteration, the privilege which they at present enjoy, of repairing unmolested to their various Chapels, and of perform ing Divine Worship after the manner of : their ancestors. We, however; feel-persuaded, that-our Raman Catholic :Brethreo, as Men of honour and principle, as men laudably attached to their own faith, would avail themselves, and most properly, of an y addition to their present political power, for promoting the pre dominance of their church m these dominions. Your Peti tioners, therefore, humbly conceive, that they are actuated by 'an allowable regard to the interests of their own Church, and are quite uninfluenced by uncharitable' illiberality, in beseech. ing your Right Honourable House to pause before youconeede 'A) these our fellow -subjects a degree of political power greater han that which they at present enjoy, " And your P etitioners," &c. _ March 4, 1820. CLEItICUS. PARLIAMENT, HOUSE OF' LORDS, MARCH 7. The Earl of DARNLEY presented a petition from the Ro man Catholics of the town of Liverpool against the Irish Un lawful Societies' Bill. The Bishop of EXETER presented a petition from the Clergy of the diocese of Exeter, in favour of the bill, and against the Roman Catholic Claims. The petition, which, on the motion of the Right Rev. Prelate, was read and laid on the table, sttongly censured the violent language used in the Cathot lie Association, protested against the Catholic doctrines, and de precated the repeal of laws which formed the security of the Church and State. Lord KING observed, that their Lordships had now before them one more petition from the Clergy against granting the .enjoyment of civil rights to their fellow-countrymen, the Ro man Catholics. How far these 'Reverend Gentlemen ought thus to meddle with politics he should not now discuss ; but they alWays appeared eager to take part in them. He was in formed that there was a city which had a Right Rev. Mayor, and in which there were 'Very Reverend Aldermen and well. beneficed burgesses. He did not know whether they held their benefices in the dincess of the Right Reverend Prelate, but he did know that the town was situated in his diocess. As these Reverend Gentlemen bestirred themselves so much to find fault where they had no business, he thought it would b e but right to bring them back fromayttererthey had gone to where , they ought to be. The Bishop of EXETER did not understand a what ground it seas pretended that the Clergy sttould• not be allowed the right of petitioning as well as any other class of His Majes ty's subjects. Why should they not be allowed to approach that House when they addressed it in modest and humble peti dons ? With respect to the Clergymen to whom the Noble Lord had alluded as holding magisterial offices, that was a circum, stance which nobody More regretted than he did.-4 I - lear, hear!) —Such cases did exist in his diocess ; but it was not in his power to prevent them. The Earl of DA RN'LE Y referred their Lordships to the pe tition which had been read at the desire of the Right Reverend Prelate, in order to judge how far it wal.remarkable for mo desty and humility. These Reverend Persona dwelt very much on the intemperate language and conduct of the Roman Ca tholic Association ; but if they had been placed in the same situation as the Roman Catholics—if they had been so long de barred from their just rights, Whether, partaking; as they surely did, of the commo n i n fi rm i ty of human nature, they would not have used still more violent language. They pro_ tested against the Roman Catholic doctrines, and said that they could not, consistently with their duty, remain silent, when the fences which surrounded the national church were proposed to be removed. Their language was throughout sufficiently strong ' though they were not, like the Roman Catholics, suf fering from the operation of partial laws. Nobody was more attached to the true interests of the church of England than he was, but this was a question which did not affect those interests. —lt was remarkable that no petitions had been presented in faVoUr of the bill—at least, none had been presented in that House, except such as - came from the clergy ; but he would seriously advise those reverend persons to consider well whether they could really believe that at the present moment there was greater danger froth granting than withholding the Catholic claims. He wished they would take the trouble to read what Mr. Burke, the highest authority on this subject, had said.—. They would then see that it was now too late to oppose the re ligious liberty of the Catholics.—[Here the Noble Lord read a that the Roman C a th o li cs passage from Mr. Burke, sliewing already possessed religious liberty, and that the only remaining question was one of civil and political rights.] The Bishop of EXETER would not go into any discussion with The Noble Lord on the terms in which the petition was drawn up. He could not be made answerable for every thing in a petition w hi c h h e presented. Th e N o b le Lord had quoted a passage from Burke. He would, in return, recommend to the Noble Lord to read the last words of Lord Russell. He was sorry he had not copied them, and brought them down in his pocket. The Right Rev. Prelate then moved that the 11th report of the Commissioners of Charities, together with the appendix, be laid before the House. Earl (111QSVENOR said a few words, after which the mo tion was agreed to. Several private Bills were brought from the Commons. SCOTCH PEERS. Lord MELVILLE rose to move fora Committee to consider of the law regulating the trial of Peers for offences committed in Scotland. The Noble Lord briefly described the state of the law in Scotland with respect to the trial of Peers, and the prac tice which had been followed since the Union. He proposed the appointment of a Committee to inquire into the state of the law on this subject. He would move the same Committee as that which sat last Session on the law of ..Seotland, with the difference of ofie Member, who was absent. Lord HOLLAND - wished - the inquiry to be extended to of fences.which were not political. From all he had heard and read on the subjpct, he was convinced that the laws of Scotland very much required to be looked into by their Lordships. Lord AIELITI bLE asked the Noble Lord whether he would sit on the Committee ; and on Lord Holland signifying his assent, his nali k e was added to the list. The Marquis of LA NSDOWN presented petitions against the Irish Unlawful Societies' Bill from the Catholics of the county of Galway, and the Catholics and Protestants of the town of (fort. Lord GORT, on the latter petition being presented, stated that several of the most respectable inhabitants of Gort, both Catholics and Protestants, refused to sign it. The Marquis of LANSDOWTN presented a petition from Glastonbury, praying for an alteration of the law for the re covery of Small Debts. _ _ SPRING-GUNS. would carry the principle to the fullest extent. lie would trot only exclude spring-guns from enclosed grounds, tiut even from locked up places ; because Innocent persons, atteMpting to enter in consequence of the key being lost, or from any other cause, might meet with serious accidents. It was not fit that any person living under a regular Government should have the power of setting an engine for the destruction of human life. If the principle of the Bill were made to apply general ly, it should have his support. Lord ELLENBOROUGH said, that if the alteration pro posed by the Noble Duke was carried into effect, nobody in the neighbourhood of London would be able to preserve any fruit. The fear of spring-guns, where they were not actually set, but where a board stated them to be, prevented deprbda tions. But this Bill, if carried to the length proposed, would take away the fear. The Noble Earl who last spoke must be aware that there was a great difference between going into open grounds and climbing over a wall or entering a hot-house. The LORD CHANCELLOR acknowledged the inconsis tency and uncertainty of the law with respect to spring-guns. On every occasion on which any question on this subject had come before the Courts, the Judges, he believed, had been about equally divided. To those who considered the state of the law on this and some other subjects, that maxim which declared it to be the perfection of human reason ap peared absurd. It certainly was not the perfection of human reason which made it only trespass to take from a tree a pear, and which made the taking the same pear, when separated from the tree, felony. It was his wish that property should be protected, but he should be sorry to be thought that he was the advocate for spring-guns. There had been no occa sion for those engines in former times: but now, when every plan tation was turned into a poultry yard, protection of this kind was thought necessary. A sportsman was now thought nothing of unless he could kill his thousand birds a day. Hut such a thing had never been heard of in the days of his youth. There were no pheasants in those days, or at least very few, in that part of the country from which he came. Some were kept for shOw, and some were to be found at the seat of the ancestor of the present Lord Ravensworth. Now that so many plantations had been made, and so well stocked with pheasants, how could their Lordships expect that people who had a taste for game— and he never knew an Englishman who had not—would not go and look for it whereat was to be found ? Poaching was the consequence of game being preserved and protected. He for one never could defend the practice of setting engines to en danger the life of a fellow-creature for the sake of a partridge or a pheasant. The Earl of LA UDERDA LE was against the Game Laws in general. He confirmed what his Noble and L ea r ne d F r i en d had said, that in former times spring -guns and poachers were not heard of. But the great evil, and an evil unknown to former times, was the state of the country gaoLs, which were crowded with the prisoners the victims of the Game Laws. He would venture to say, that considering the diffusion of pro perty in this country, the Game Laws ought to be changed. There never existed any where so infamous a state of things as the law exhibited on this subject. Parliament had within a short period created eight .hundred millions of funded pro- , perty, and a class of persons enjoying revenues which amounted to thirty-two or thirty-three millions a-year, and yet these persons were not allowed to kill game. The Earl of CARNARVON said, that the tendency to steal game had. been increased by the increasing capital and wealth of the country. He was for legalizing the sale of game, and thought if the Country Gentlemen gave up their strong hold on that point, they would relieve themselves from a great deal Of obloquy to which they were at present exposed. It would be extremely beneficial to the country to have a law enacted on the subject, which was really meant to be executed. Such he hoped the law would be which was coming from the other House, to which their Lordships ought to p a y p ar ti cu l ar atten tion. It ought to be made a law really capable of defending game. The Earl of LIMERICK was in favour of an alteration of the Game Laws, but was surprised to hear what had fallen from the Noble Earl, when he recollected what had formerly passed in that House, on a Bill relative to the sale of game. The Earl of CARNARVON explained, that on that occa sion he had on his side the vote of the Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsack, who was, like him, of opinion that if the seller was to be held criminal, the purchaser ought to be made equally criminal. The Earl of DARNLEY, alluding t 6 the subject of spring guns, threw out as a suggestion, that the legality of setting them should be confined to walled grounds. The Earl of FALMOUTH said that the ground of the op position to the Bill which had been alluded to was, that Noble Lords who lived at a distance from their estates wished to have the opportunity of purchasing game. The Earl of LIMERICK stated, that the real ground was a dislike that the same punishment should apply to the rich as well as to the poor. The punishment of the pillory was then in existence, and to that punishment the purchaser might have been liable as well as the seller. Earl GROSVENOR, from what had passed, and especially what had been said by the Noble Lord on the Woolsack, was inclined to think that the Bill coming from the other House, on the sale of game, would experience a better reception than the Bill of last year. The property of the gardeners in the nighbourbood of the metropolis ought to be protected, because the fruit which they reared was all the property of those poor people. The case was very different with respect to hares and partridges. He would support the Bill. The LORD CHANCELLOR said, that with regard to ex tending the principle of the Bill to enclosed grounds, a great deal of difficulty arose from the distinction which the law made between trespass and theft- . .-between the act of pulling a tree out of the ground, and taking away a tree which had been pre viously pulled. A similar distinction was made with respect to the cruves in which salmon were caught. The law had decided, that as salmon were ferce.tzaturx, the taking them out of the craves was only a trespass. Ile remembered a case of a man who had been prosecuted for stealing. salmon out of a cruve, and acquitted by the jury on the ground that the offence only amounted to a trespass. A person, however, caught a salmon, and marked it by inserting a twig through its snout. Thi s salmon was put into the cruve, and being stolen by the same man, he was tried and found guilty, because the salmon was no. longer ferce nohow, but property. The man, if then living, was in Botany Bay, expiating his offence. • Lord SUFFIELD said, that as it seemed to be the general sense of the House, that the clauses of the Bill should be con sidered in a Committee, he moved that it be now committed. The House having accordingly resolved itself into a Com mittee— The Duke of WELLINGTON moved th a t the words " or gardens, or any place whatever," should be introduced into the clause declaring the illegality of setting spring-guns in certain grounds, &c. Lord ELLENBOROUGH said he was not fully prepared at present to argue this part of the measure, and should there fore wish to be allowed a little more time, as he considered it one of importance to those persons who possessed consi derableproperty in gardens and nurseries in the neighbourhood of London. Earl BATHURST suggested, that as the Noble Lord had stated he wished for time to consider this subject,. it would be better that the Chairman should report progress now, and that time further consideration of the measure should be adjourned to 'some future day. Lord SUFFIELD said, he had no objection to the adoption of this course. • - - Lord SUFFIELD moved the Order of the Day for the Com mittee on the Bill to make the setting of spring-guns for the protection of game illegal. The Duke of WELLINGTON thought the principle on which the Bill was brought in, if rightly followed up, would apply to enclosures of all descriptions. If spring-guns were not to be employed for the preservation of game,, he could not see why they should be allowed to be set for the protection of roses and apples. He would object to the Bill, unless it were' extended to another property as well as to game. 'With regard to accidents by spring-guns, he believed veryfew occurred; and from all that he heard and observed on the subject, lie, was inclined to believe that the two cases alluded to the other day by the Noble Lord who introduced this Bill, were the only cases of the kind which could be adduced. In fact, the effect of Setting spring-guns had been fOund. to be the preventing of poaching, and not the endangering of human life. Lord SUFFIELD reminded their Lordships that he had already signified that he had no objection to the introduction of a clause to allow the setting; of sprin g - guns f or t h e protect i on of property which it would felony to invade; but as no such an amendment could be made, except in the Committee, he thought it very hard that the motion for his Bill going into the . Committee should be opposed for an exception which did not yet' exist in it. With regard to the number of accidents occa sioned by spring-guns, lie could assure the Noble Duke that he was labouring under a great mistake when he supposed them to be few. It was true that he had alluded only to two cases, because they were more immediately within his recollection • one impressed upon hi s m ind byti o je lt i l l i o e r rn zo . r in o p f a ti r i t e ic c u ir la c r um wa s s ta s i t x ro e n s. gly lf this obi ection continued to be pressed against the Bill, lie certainly should feel himself, at another stage, called upon to go into these details of horror —details, the recital of which, however, he wished to be spared. As to the principle laid down by the Noble Duke, he entirely concurred with it : he saw.no more rea son f or protecting cab ,bages by spring-guns than pheasants. He respected pheasants as well as cabbages, and wished to see them placed on as equal footing. The Earl of LIVERPOOL concurred in the principle laid down by his Noble Friend, that in consistency tile Bill should ,apply to other property as well as game. He was himself for carrying that. principle to its fullest extent. That a man should be allowed to:buy a trap to. shoot another in a ease which lie could notdirectly shoot him, was something extremely prepos terous. There was another circumstance in which the state of o u frail: d ie trees , n it the law was extremely absurd at the present m oment . If a man went into a garden , and took away a basket f u ll o f f ru i t hev e w as r a took , Y ; but if lie went o lie was then guilty of no offence at all, exc e p t a trespass. l Now there was a great number of. fruit-gard ens in the neigh bourhood of London which would be exposed to depredation, if it were not for the terror of spring-guns. The state of the ; • on enclosed ground law respecting trespassing 3 o ught to be amended. The Earl of WESTMORLANDwas - - for the Bill, and that in the event both parties Would make a common sac of their partialities for the general good. 'He wouhl boldly say that the Catholic Association had done good ; and that the com paratively tranquil state of Ireland was in'a great degree to be attributed to the labours of that body. It was no harm—it Was on the contrary, a positive good that every Catholic knew . an Association had existed, by the assistance of which, however poor himself, he might assert and obtain his legal rights. He' would contend that the Association had • sot' inter fered with the course of justice, but it had been pursued with the vigour of law, and was now to be condemned, unheard, at their Lordships bar. He knew, at the Same time, that there were Iklagistrates who might dislike such an Association as • this, 'because it investited their characters, and wou ld not qu i et l y be trod underfoot. ' How ever, he was glad of the hopes now held out to the Catholica, whatever were the causes which provoked the Association,' and he trusted that the Resolutions adopted by the other 'House of Parliathent Woula be allowed to realise the •just expectations entertained by the Irish people: Let the measure pass; and the Catholics would not persist in continuing the Association ; but if that should fail, he could not answer for the Consequen ces. • The - Corresponding Society was put doivn—true it' was, but what a minority catnposed it. A small Minority, ,not like the si': millions of bleb' Catholics, who were - united for the pur pose Of obtaining their just rights.' BUt it was said, if the-Ca tholics obtained what they now asked, they would ask for more. He would never dread what they asked, ear cared lie ter the extent of the demand, if it were urjust, further, it should be denied. 'But what •he dreaded was, the continued refusal of Government to give them what was at once just, politic, and reasonable. It was said that much had been done for Ireland in the way of concession and amelioration—he admitted it ; but that did not prevent his seeing the demerits of former govern ments of Ireland—nor also of seeing the merits of the existing Government of that country. He conceived it impossible that the Noble Earl opposite (Earl Liverpool) or any other rational man could say that the situation of the Catholics was not such as to cause discontent. A few trifling boons might float in the top of the cup,. but the gall was at the bottom, and it would turn the boons into sourness. While disqualifying laws ex isted discontent must exist—(Hear, hear !)—The Noble Earl (Liverpool) knew there were two measures for the good of Ireland upon which no Minister could venture, unless the emancipation of the Catholics accompanied or preceded them. The first of these measures was a pension for the Catholic Clergy, and the second, an alteration in the present system or freeholds. He trusted that the Catholics would submit to what Parliament would do for 'them. Hopes had long since, and even within a short time were held out to them ; and again he trusted they would not be disappointed. He implored their Lordships, as they valued the blessings of liberty, not to say to six millions of their Irish fellow-subjects that their portion must for ever be despair.—(Hear, hear!) Lord CALTHORPE said, he was not friendly to the Ca tholic Association. He disliked much of the language which had been used ; but still coming to this resolution, he was bound to ask himself what had been the conduct of their Lord_ ships to their Catholic fellow-subject ? lie would not carry this principle too far ; but no man could altogether shut his eyes against it. Coercion should not for ever take the place of concession. No danger was now to be apprehended except in the case of Parliament refusing justice to the Roman Catholics. He saw no danger from the Association except to their own cause, or rather to the question of Catholic Emancipation. He did not believe the present Bill would be at all efficacious ; and yet, perhaps, it would do no harm. Let the Catholics, however, have conciliation, and there would be no necessity for i s l t s tV o t c A ia s ti s , o ,n c . ia Again He hada s strong dislike ha t c o i the Catholic Religion as a religion ; its tenets he knew to he liable to great abuse. Ile could by no means defend their tenets, and he should object to their Clergy having seats in either House of Parliament. With respect to the Catholic Laity he held a very different opinion, and he thought their having seats in Parliament would be the best antidote to their religious tenets. He respected the virtues and the talents of the persons opposing the Catholic Claims; but the more lie examined the grounds on which that opposition rested, the less he respects ed the •hearts of those who so opposed theirs: The Catholics he thought badly treated, and that the imputation of their not keeping their oaths was most, unfounded: He was a Pro testant—to be so was his pride and glory—and as a Protestant he wished to do justice to his Roman Catholic fellow coun trymen. He also thought that Parliament should not visit too severely what has been done by the Association. The Catholics were amazed, disappointed, and mortified by the mea sures hitherto pursued towards them, and no wonder if they.were not very measured in their complaints. A liberal policy was pursued towards every State but Ireland, and why ? His illa jesty's Government were called upon to answer it. This House had hitherto intercepted -the grace and favour yielded by the other House, and their Lordships were now bound to answer why such a state of things existed. When the Catholics were quiet, and said nothing, they could not obtain their rights —now their conduct was said to be objectionable, and they were promised something. This House should set an example of justice, and not defeat those hopes held out for years to the Roman Catho lics of these Kingdoms. lie would not further trespass on the attention of their Lordships, than merely to express his hope that the question of Catholic Emancipation would 'be speedily settled, with a view to the peace, happiness, and permanent strength of the empire.—(llear, hear !) The LORD CHANCELLOR—I shall never, my Lords, consent to this Bill upon any of the grounds which have just been stated by Noble Lords. If this House formerly acted unjustly—all I say is, let this House, in proper season, repair that injury ; but let the House now do its duty to the country at large. This Bill is to be defended not upon the principle that has just been advocated, but upon the principle that it is absolutely necessary for the safety of the Government and the country. If this House did wrong before, let them do right for the future ; b ut l et not t h at be the principle upon which they pass this Bill. I vote in favour of this Bill against the Cathoe . lie Association, simply because I think it necessary, and not be cautte this House may have at any former time acted improper ly, or committed any wrong. I even go farther, and I say I would not consent to the third reading of the Bill if it were to be considered as a pledge of what we were to do in future fur the protection of this Protestant country. I hope and trust that I feel a due regard to the great account I shall one day have tti render for oty actions—for the past, I feel I have conscientiously discharged my duty ; and for the future, I shall act upon the same principle. Whatever my- conduct for the future may be on that measure, which I cull a great measure, I shall do my duty according to the best of my opinion. For thirty years past 1 have considered this question—l have examined it witlt my best attention, and I have not us yet diseovered any reason. to make me think my opinions are ill-founded. I say, ever, that I am open to conviction, although at preent I can not see the least prospect of my changing those • tipinithrs ; but I will not now pledge my opinion in the one way orifie' other. 1 vote for this Bill, in consequence of 'the dangerous principles in which the Catholic Association is foUnded, - and shall not go out of this House without stating that such motives alone influence me in c a lli ng u p on your Lordships to make it at once the law. Lord DUDLEY and WARD - said, that he voted for the measure with considerable regret; because although the Aso ciation was not justifiable, they were certainly to be excused. The Catholics were excluded from places of ambition and of honour, not for any crime or any wrong, but because they either did not or could not lis which cam- . see that light which came three centuries . The CH AIRMAN accordingly obtained leave to report pro- ago, upon the darkness of a thousand years. He thought the gress ; and on the suggestion of the Earl of LIVERPOOL the Catholic question ought to be carried and the sooner the better . ; Committee adjourned to next Monday hut while they were awaiting it, their conduct should not be UNLAWFUL (IRELAND) SOCIETIES. too hardly scrutinized. He would pass over much, but where The Earl of LIVERPOOL now moved the third reading of danger and defiance came together, there they should - stop. the Unlawful Societies Suppression Bill. The Catholics had set up Parliament against Parliament,. and Lord ELLENBOROUGH, in rising to oppose the Bill, revenue against revenue. He would not say the Association said that he had not - the least intention of troubling tileit Lord. was rebellious, but it might be so, and he wished to guard ships with a long s peech. In voting against the present Bill, against any such danger. The Government should not allow he did not desire to be understood as supporting the continu. itself to be threatened, or the next step would be an attempt ante of the Cotholic Association ; nor did he wish to be under- to overthrow. The Catholics had able and intrepid lead er s , .„i, stood, on the other hand, as at all approving of th e principal of and a people - so led, should not be finial) , or 111Stli L the measure for suppressing . that body. Ile wished the disso. treated. The Catholic Associations hart a rig ht pen lution of the Catholic Association, not because they had done Lion-.it was the birthright of every subject of a that the Ca any harm, but because its further continuance would be most but it should not at the same time be forg?ttesn and i political prejudicial to the Catholic cause; and, therefore, he hoped that tholic• Association held a nation in religlou but there was the Association would dissolve itself, in deference to the opinion obedience. There was now no danger P i? - er t h3 n s ich foreign con. of the public and the authority of Parliament. While saying no knowing when the time might come gh ;reL t . ° State ; a Association wai - not this, he was v er y f ar f r om regretting the existence of that Body. maim would be sought or found. T his Association had • ex- to be compared' to ordinary societies,. ' tended, however feebly, fisted ; it had em bodi e d and displayed the Catholic feeling of cal or religious objects, which were t l ie n laws ; and, as a decided On the contrary, he was glad that such an the country ; and it h a d made individuals of all classes and to aid the Government and suppor t o f• t catholic Emancipation, be parties in the United Kingdom think more seriously of the W. and attached friend to the cause o f , i n stituted for mere politi. put down. . There were ficulties under which the Catholics laboured than ever was done , wished to see the Catholic sia Catholics could proceed —one way Wit* bcfore. He had, therefore, great hopes that prejudices would two ways in which the r s uasiOn. If they meant force, they be relinquished on all sides, by perceiving how injurious it. was by force, the other by pC ort of Protestants here or elsewhere to the State to keep open this feverish source of jealousy, and could not expect t he s upp ort ere ;