The Sun. — London, England, 1834-03-14 00:00:00

MEETING AT DUDLEY. A public meeting was held at the Town-hall this day ,Mon °lna)), pursuant to a r equisition to the Mayor, the object of the e x e e e r t t i i n o g m b i e n ing . to. return thanks to the magistrates for their :rah rotediatelvLuielling the riots that took place on the day of, and th e ,day-c;,seNqvuent to, the recent election. It was expected ted three p a Bennitt, Esq., would preside ; but nearly TOqUarters of an hour having elapsed after the time ap eted for the meeting, and Mr. Btnnitt not appearing; the s u-l ev or Chairman was by a unanimous vote conferred o J. Palmer. "e.CustrimaN having referred to the requisition, and to the ° blect for which the meeting was convened, proceeded to Pre" his hoPe that, from any circumstances that might oc. e ti 4 a r e t t hat no individual would impute to . him a character tiec With the hues of either of the parties that the late lured°° had brought into collision • for as far as his humble ()ice could b rrien de of e heard, he had exercised it in calling on all the the r- freedoln to abstain from supporting, or he sanctioning ;L s viU rn of e i ther of the candidates. He felt proud in bearing a aY W. ttesta ti on to th e activity of the magistrates on the tt t election in their efforts to restore reace. In the th i l itl A With which the introduced the military, and in lli e e t Z," tires adopted after their introduction, the conduct . of licheitt-a`attates was most praiseworthy. But he . also juncture Was be ed t . that their conduct prior to this particularjunc u He Was not ~a.ettlated to awaken feelings of like admiration. tnis. trati en the it right the gentlemen invested with t e to W. itistice should a pear in public as the professed adhe. th ere; o r t " 'Party, and the ' avowed opponents of another ; he had g,,_ 'regretted that the magistrates and their subordinates At",t,Orat.ed t hemselves in party badges. Se enoi 'is tune a number of gentlemen entered the room . , aanc ftegllestiliecl bY the Mayor, who, proceeding,to the . Ch . airm ag , , cill owed 7 ,: l al to surrender the chair. The application str .Y the voices of almost all present crying— Off, off,. t h avr e e rillit ti Mr. Palmer is our chairman I" Mr. Bennit en: rePeated his demand 4re etdit:'"--As nominal mayor of Dudley, I grant that you ' 'ait t° Precedence, an d I s h ou ld no t h ave taken the b ad been present in time. FaAta,,. NIT T -- -But, Sir, I appointed the meeting. te-"Yes, Sir, and the meeting appointed me. . k°PertCttAtA:,_ "a--- Such conduct is disgraceful—the mayor is the '•ort to take the chair. ,147ectlyi,,;'''"'The meeting alone can decide that, and I am "' ll io to appeal to their I sdeciion a second cheerfully T• he subtoit.rre g4la r as it may appear, shall most The a,3,:°,11 Party having now become exceedingly cla pqui r, ati' d ' u e e C hairman stated that . he . would at once vacate . the . .fa n ' , II move the substitution of the mayor in his assurance were given, that the resolutions should i ▪ `" to the meeting present for their approbation, bNall7 n ot o,.alifi cation. To this Mr. Bennitt replied" Cer mqu Then said the Chairman, " certainly I will ; ▪ respee—`oe chair, to which I am appointed by so large aid , 4 e an assembly." In the meantime the . meeting ea tell able 'eerie of thegreatest confusion, a few individuals ki tit Y de c d ttedhe Chairman • 'man to give way, while a very large majo_ I „ e bt. Un equivocally in favour of the original appoint_ L'eetig, Berinitt having now attempted to address . . the 'ejnd 'at %Va, received with evident marks of dissatisfaction, kst7l.l..Otei.•ference of the Chairman peace was restored, . "eve r "varlitt was allowed to speak. This opportunity, sk„, "ahg e ,, used for the purpose of reading . a resolution of - ' av ed t hanks to the magistrates, which he said had been tatbeUt :4kllleconded. On putting it in the affirmative, he was t4:11 48 t ° 5 d a second, when Mr. Cook called on the dissen -1%-e..tess their opinion . by a show of hands, which was ent d it y' most convincing proof that nine . out of every ten r • te n . ented from the opinion expressed in the resolution. arra a hitt a „ h ie led all his friends seemed . . satisfied of this, for they tn e ... 4 he rut 'tiler particulars in private conversation ; after n ett to the meeting and said, " I dissolve this Ming."4lW NNT°°!)---Nlr . B nnitt, I came here at your request, th itt n ot • e Ted,and glut this place till the business is properly con_ th: h A , th e chairman dissolves the meeting. s nee ,.g e ht H D -4 N now said, that as the gentlemen who . had . r i ° ., P , er to disturb he regular order of the business sAs bih ,` ll th t : c?ncluded, it might be again resumed, on ~r - ug th e ecv.olution in our advertising columns was passed Th eed to iee r h l :l a very gre.it majority, when thanks being the litay n "lawman, the meeting separated. Mayor all throw h though very pertinacious for the e°°,l 4ct • g k quil e h e d himself f hi most gentlemanly—would we could i n others o party. p 4HIONABLE INTELLIGENCE. ft Nat d ARRIVALS. .oblegltuel:epat-eciSilittorvilliers and suite, at Fladong's Hotel ; s General , from Cheshire ; John Boucher, E Mrs. 4t O l itta - ' a " fa inilY at ditto, from Wales ; C. Beckett, q' Esq., Esq., atditto , 14 9 ; ---Ehves, Es a t dig at ditto ; Sli„.., 0 , fro lo Oxford ; _____ Townsend, Es , Vc ral , t , .. nerd ts_ k. 04 Lord -' ''''''l., at ditto • Rev. Mr. Edwards, at ditto, fr A om r. Z.etlibo.' Gardner from ' Melton Mowbray ; Hon. E e it , t ".-. 'e+ i ,° from at Sy W rnita i nod soy sr Castle s ; t Mr. jaro e a s n , s d_ s t M r : e s t . , f N r V o e ro l c h ‘, . i N n ra a r n . liontr.e - 1100. ,nrsn.s tla ii rbo ot r e d, at ' ditto, from Richmond ; the 111eb,,...-dsses Addington, at Batt's Hotel, Dover-street, from Ciark7nci ditto,' ttu , , andft Mrs. Henry, at ditto, from Brighton; J. ditto ; Colonel ' and Mrs. Kemah, at the ll 4t tlin:77„liti°t'n 0.'0,11,4,n -street, from Burleigh ; Capt. Russell, e.pi Howard eY liotel, Albetn arle-street, from Brighton ; 1111% M.P., in Grosvenor.square, from Ashtead Park, NY ; W. Lascelles, t•-- admit - ellt. --, .--sq., in B rook -street, from the Conti- A. ,_ ? Mr. and Mrs. Owen, in Harley -street, from Suffolk ; Sir H. Neale, in Charles-street, St. James's, from the ii.l.qilent ; Sir Gerard Noel, in C handos-street, from Exton Ni. 71,.! __Sir Edward and Lady Disbrowe, in Cavendish-square, LurnWindsor Castle; Major-General Sir John Macdonald, in titrir:tetor.square, %Os all, fr om ditto ; Sir Robert Wilson, in chapei-s H ir y e d e e t : from ditto ; T. B. Lennard, Esq. , Vil%bertace ,General Sir George Walker, It ...t Stormont at Caen Wood, from the . N, Cornish in Al , a , n rt si h e:ld n -frtreet ; 41 1'et: 41- ',.',...t5q., and Mrs. Henley, at the Blenheim Hotel, Bond_ "th 7 41 Somersetsbire ; Walter Foulke, Esq., at ditto, from mitto,',..'aPt. Bamford, '73cl Regiment, an E d sci A ., lrs. Bamford, at at ditto, from b0:,„.7041 Worcester ; Oliver Freeman, d.tto from ditto ; Rev. ' 4 . Ws,.!, ' r atites Waters, Esq., at *4 ont• '''sionablin, at ditto, from Brighto l n ;, Ga . p t t, Wilkes, RN., -°' ftoto ditto; John Heniker, Esq., at di t o, from ditto. A _llle b„, DEPARTURES. -..,, bad i -..e of Norfolk, from St. Jame's-square, for his seat, wittd-e. Castle, Sussex; ' the Hon. Miss Townshend, for helic s° , , r Castle • Captain and Mrs. Hawkins, for Bath; W. L,.,_ rd, E N., ft ' orn the Pulteney Hotel, Albemarle-street, for a& h . gton, Warwiqrshire ; G. Courtney, Esq., from the . St. -.,,, Nthe t; Hotel, Jertnyn-street, for Marbray Hall, Cheshire . ; 05.,?• R. Plunkett, from ditto, for- Brighton ; Captain atr.klriN.,from Raggett's Hotel, Dover-street, for Chatham; '•---, fu:ulVitirser.esj°, John q W ., right, from Fladong's Hotel, for Hasting e s; from ditto, for Cheltenham ; NN • Tu . d , :r ota a?to ditto, for tlitto • Mr.' and Mrs. Puget, and family, 14 4 0 144 , for Brighton; Rev. Mr. Wright, from ditto, for Blenh,hire ; the tr 'en° Hotel lt:til ditt R ight Hon. the Earl of Oxford, from the , Bond-street, on a tour ; Colonel Walpole, y&-v. T ° Pe fo a r ,, ll ,, at ,!! • C l nel Roberts from ditto, for ditto; Warciiii°2„. ~,,----' i4s H o o , from Clieltenham, for ditto . ; -44 ° Es n—f.,.4,71 E N. .fro op d e itto for Bucks; James 'Whit ilitto: f0q.3,i",":14, ditt:), ditto, Oxford ; T. llontero, Esq., I fl a ii n in g 1 1 E l l otei, 10; i.L t t e o n;e , k _ sue Rev. Mr. Robbins, from d t i h t e to, O fo r r e s, *itle,l 1101,44 e . .; Sir W. Webster, Bar r ., 112 _the ite,7l7, Esq., from ditto, o h f ir seat near Nor -44111 1., Telitlest • Causon and family , from the Hanover aitiily,ho_ .on -house, Brickley ; John Churchill, Esq., .0 ditto, for Brighton. ise R au, A .A.R. RIVALS AT BATH.. ti de ggra n '7,otairal Sirs Wm. Hargood, Sir C. Saxton, Col. NV.. et h ey, Chame, Major Massow ; Capt. Monckl . and, 1 0 4 ,.. Hopoi....ie_v. Dr. Bayly ; Rev. Messrs. Bonner, Knight, Po o ' trivi l ', .11 rovene, Schomberg ; Mr. and sirs. Bean, Bill -1414, Re eves ' 4ritler, Boys, Thompson, King, Lloyd, Norris, 41,1 W'I • • I'V ' Ash ~. ' I not, Schiefer, Gouldsmith, Young,. Wood; ktra z atkl i . NitiV,,,..ker, Brevey, Kington, Knight, Milner, . Mills, e. er, trsc'; Manwood, Hobhouse, 41;,heil, Trevuie,, Hibbard, Jervis, Mogg, Parkham,Parkinson, Templer, Blaquier, kl B tYre. t.:14, Sutton, Phillips, M.P., I T . aae, s;„ biesdaines Casnove, Hassells, Bea , A ton n P ' Taylor, HAlo`Don -111,118t11144,,,,age, Stock, Warren, Wilson, Smelt, larwood ; ee h, B,re.-.°ll, Dihvorth, Escot, Gilbertson, Jephson, Parrott, ? 'arl or • A hRIV art ~,,- 0.4f 00 • Co LS AT CHELTENHAM ,: Itti tn ' "nt J. L . }r_s`, C ount Adolph De Herdinski, Sir J. Ripton, ow. 14 , lea p ar' ,. 4 , fa rolv 4l ,, e lifF, Col. Patrickson, Col. and 3 rs. B ' t lev --°°aesAi'."'alcir Gordon, Major O'Brien, Major H s a e n ll d Ate. 4 rohdeaco.aJor „ „._ Mackay, Major Sandys, Rev. 11 , 1 r. r t T as rent, INMrs Morri s, c" Waterford Capt. Hickey, R.N., -aP' . Ir. .. All" Pt.r,a Lewis, Capt. Hickman, Capt. Disney, , kr . a 44 aa ms.4"ingharn Mr. and Mrs. Thorold, Mr. and I Vi -114 I drt. ' " -r * and Mrs ' . Jennings, Mr. and Mrs. N re , k 2 4t ,11,1ereilden, Mr and Mrs. Elkstone, Mr. and Mrs. r, `,.,e4ch ey, r• Parkhouse,.Mr. Kennedy, Mr. Bold, Mr. Grey, keor'Ne iwl‘fr. White, Mr. 'Wormington, Mr. Crompton, tey , Z. Mr. E1;11/3rYant Mr. Jackson, Mr. Saltmarsh, Mr. ,r. I t. „..' rotor , „.gton, Mr. Walsall, Mr. Crump, Mr. Kean. vV alk • at eendatr Merton, Mr. Tottenham, Mr. Reckw_it . h r , hat t ' l et k en, Ur. Glover Mr. Young, Mr. Briggs, 3 1 • stittaarner, WI:. cWrorthington, dr. Edmonds, Mr. Huntly, Mir. Wo od 04, ~,on k, Mr. G. R. Eldridge,-Ajr. Stanhope, ffil • boly.: 4 'an i - Grady, Mrs. Edmonds, Mrs. Shermer, Mrs. ..,11 ,2 M r s be , art• Anne Tuder rs. Sanders, Mrs. Katz, Mrs. r, k r A th, . ii. G re n oPer, M rs. Cox, Mrs. Barrington, Mrs. War. at 1 ; 14 Itobe:r;klB6 Newnhan; the Misses Tuder, Miss Grif entori, 14-'", Miss Drayt ' on, Miss Arkell, Miss Enfield, ' , lire T ~., , kr. ~...' -.uciell and family, Miss Lyon, &C. &c. -... a k r .. , PASIIIONABLE CHANGE. '.............arrd Phipps, from this town. toYeSterda ---------------______ Y , th . • ,:„ raby had . , e General Steam-Navigation v e ... i e "8. Nl'Gbite*lttearn.vessel launched from the doclo. 4 attb f u Peeard a I'd l !'wkes, Rotberbithe. The new Th e ur g trad e, h „,_ City ortian r of d ' °o tons, is 'o be engaged in the is called the City of Homburg'. 1 1 111a r Ike.. Paeket a i n 4r9 Will, perhaps, be one of the inns' nod Totlatio.,s, -vti,- s.l,itlil'e service, and we are sure, from it. ilnd the adalir. deserv e to be so. The hunch ex 114--.4-ttie hNl pitaii i r ti" of e very person who witnessed it. v iVI .44 se eheYLof the company was as generally at:- u auty of the launch. HOUSE AND WINDOW TAXES. We think that under present cir;,ums s, it would be inexpedient to press any motion for(he f the window tax, and we therefore recommend Si .'amuel Whalley to postpone it, as a bill for the repeal of the house tax (introduced since the notice of motion was given) is still on its passage through the house, and is threatened with opposition. W. CLAY. G. GROTE. March 13. A later period seems to me advisable. A. BEAUCLERK. Knowing that a strong opposition is still menaced by the agricultural interest to the repeal of the house-tax, for the same reason that I postponed my own motion, I cannot but approve of the temporary postponement of Sir S. Whalley's. D. L. EVANS, Signed for the same reasons as those given by Colonel Evans. [The above were handed to Sir Samuel Whalley last night in the House of Commons, and were the cause of his postponing the motion of which he had given notice.] The Duke of Devonshire and suite have ar rived at Malta on their return to England, which is now expected early in April. His Grace had visits d Palermo after quitting Venice. His health is said to be quite estored. Yesterday was the birthday of Earl Grey, when the Noble Premier completed his 70th year. He was horn on the 13th of March, 1764. Countess Grey gave a splendid soiree last night on the occasion, which was very numerously and fashionably attended. The ensuing recess is expected to be longer than any at the same period of the year for many sessions pa•t. As at present arranged, both houses will adjourn on Wednesday the 26th inst., until Tuesday the Sth, or Wednesday the 9th, of April. Lord Chief Justice Denman has taken a large mansion in Portland.place, heretofore the residence of Mr. Hilbert. General Ballasteros, who has been resident at Orleans for several years, took his departure for Al idrid last week, in order to assume the duties of the office of Chamberlain to the Queen of Spain, to which he has been appointed. Major-General Moore, whose affair of ho• nour with a gentleman named St ipylton some time since give rise to much conversation in the higher circles, has ' been recently honoured with the insignia of a Knight Commander of the Guelphie Order, on the arrival of the Gallant General from the Continent, where he has been for some time residing wiih his family. He will receive the honour of Knighthood as Sir Lorenzo Moore. COURT OF COMAION COUNCIL. At a Court of Common Council, held yesterday, a petition from 310 merchants and traders in the city of London, calling on the corporation to oppose a bill about to be brought into Parliament for continuing an act autho r zing the collecting of tolls and rates in East StnitlifieA, was referred to the City Lauds' Committee, and an in struction to the members for the city to oppose the bill iu Parliament was agre d to. The report of the committee appointed to take into consideration the projected market at Islington was presented. It recommended that the cstaidishment of the market should be opposed, and the re t on t was aoopted. _ _ A new opera, announced for performance during the Frankfort fair, has been !orbd.len by the Censors. It was La Prison d'Edenibonrg, in one cene of which the prisoners escape by setting fire to the prison. Late accounts from Greece state that the G-vernment is actively engaged in the revision, com menced under Calm tristrias in 1830, of all the ordinances of the Emperor Basilins Abz,do, whico form the basis of the civil debts of the Greeks. All such of these laws as ate to remain in force will be collected into one code. It is also occupied in searching fir all that is not to be found in the Basilica, which have great authority with tu- Greeks, and which even are referred to by the Turks t i decide their differences with their enemies. It is hoped that the scatter ti fragments of these laws will be easily discovered. It is added, that nothing will be admitted into the new legislation of Greece but such laws as are rodipletety in t-cordance with the manners and habits of the people. —French Paper. An oversight committed in the negotiation of the last Greek loan, which we noticed at the time is again t , ,e subject of comment in the money-market, on account of its having been understood that at the Bank of England the portion of that loan having the guarantee of this go vernment is admitted to be fully as valid, for all purposes of loans or otherwise, as any other English secut ity. This being the case, it certainly appears to he an extraordinary cant of attention to allow money to be raised at par, or below it, under the guarantee of Great Britain, in a 5 per cent. stock, when our 4 per cents. were at 104, and are to all appearance on the point of having the interest on them reduced. As the whole liability is incurred in the first instance on behalf of the new Greek government, this would appear, on a superficial view, to be a matter of secondary consideration ; but it the guarantee of England is meant, which is no very improbable contingency, to be ultimately available, it would have been a piece of salu tary foresight to limit that responsibility at the outset as much as possible. The only thing to be said in palliation of the error is, that the contract took place in Paris, out of the observation at least, if not out of the control, of this government, but still great blame must attach somewhere for tie oversight committed.-- Ti mes . On Wednesda7, between 1 and 2 o'clock, as the Earl of Denbigh's carriage, in which were her Grace the Duchess of Gordon and the Countess of Denbigh, was proceeding along Piccadilly at a moderate pace, a labour ing man, named Thomas Phillips, in crossing the toad, ran against the po!e of the carriage, through some defect in his sight, and was knock,d down underneath the horses' feet, and before the coachman, to whom not the slightest blame is attributable, could pull up, the fore and hind wheels passed over hie body, just above the waist. The Counted. immediately alighted, and evinced the greatest concern at the unfortunate occurrence. The poor man was taken up in an apparently liteless state, and was immediately carried to St. George's Hospital, where, on examining the injury he hid sustained, three of his ribs were found to be severely fractured, besides some in t,rnal injuries of a highly dangerous nature. The Countess of Denbigh instantly followed in her carriage to the hospital, and directed that every thing requisite, however expensive, should be procured at her cost, and having also ascertained that Phillips's wife and family reside in Grey-stre-t, Limehouse, immediately drove there, and pre sented the wife with 201. for the present support of herself and faintly. DEATH OF A MAN IN ST. WINIFRED'S WELL. —Yesterday morning week, the body of a man stark naktd and quite dead, was found in a sitting posture, immersed in the water of St. Winifred's Well, at Holywell. It appears that the deceased, respecting whom nothing is known, was a pilerim to Holywell, for the purpose of Lathing in the far famed well, for the cure of some real or imaginary ailment, and that nothing daunted by the cool ness of the weather, he stripped off his clothes, and took his seat in the well, either late on Sunday evening or early on the morning'of Monday. The consequence has been alreidy described. A coroner's inquest was held on the body, and a verdict of " Found dead " returned. When found he had a •tring of beads round his neck, with a cru cifix attached to i,. NEWBURGH.-AN EXCELLENT HIDING PLACE.-Ldst week, as the presees and pantries of a donee publican were undergoing a general review, a powerful sweep of the besom very ungraciously disturbed the slumbers of the Family Bible, when down fell that reverend hermit upon the floor with a thump, which shook the whole bigger). The untoward accident was deplorable in the extreme. Whh a sigh, in which love and venera tion were admirably blended, the huge tome was raised from its low estate, when, 0 dear, the very leaves were found torn and scattered in the dust. What was to he done now? with a trembling hand they were lifted—with watery eves were they examined. Amazement and joy, they were not the leaves of the Bible, but five one pound mites, which were carefully laid in that forgotten place of safety seventeen }ears ago ! There is no sale so secure as that which is deemed not worth the opening. —D undee Chronicle. THE LATE THOMAS BIDDLES.—Iii the case of the late Mr. Biddloi, as in many similar instances ' the wealth of an individual has been exaggerated. M r . Biddli-s has left a property somewhat under 250,0004, which he has divided, with the exception of a few lagacie., the whole of which do not amount to 2,0001., among his own immediate relatives, all of whom are, or rather were, very poor and very illiterate. The principal is to remaib untouched for ten years, the will providing that for that period the recipients of his bounty shall receive the interest only. To one of Mr. Biddies's grandnieces, whose lather and mother are both dead, and who has been brought up by her grandfather (Mr. Biddlea's brother), Mr. Biddle has bequeathed the entire property which would have come to both her parents as well as her own. On her grandfather bei g told by one of the executors that, baying in prospect a lady's fortune, it was necessary that she should receive a lady's education, he replied that he al ways sent her to an evening school, and that farther he could not spare her, as she milked the cows, went all his little errands, and "scoured to admiration." IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, MAzen 13 Mr. BERNAL, Sir R. FERGUSSON, and other TUPTI - o , erB of the House of Commons, brought up the Sugar Doti( s Bill, the Runcorn-gap Railway Amendment Bill, the Bristol Railway Amendment Bill, and the Warwick Borough Bill. WARWICK BOROUGH BILL The Earl of DURHAM, in moving the first reading of this bill, stated that the object of the bill was to extend the right of election to the 101. householders of L-ansing ton Priors. It was not customary, in moving the first reading of a bill, to enter into its de , ails ; and followiric that course, he begged to give notice, that in case the bill should be opposed, which he had no reason to expect, it having passed through the Lower House unanimously, he should ask that the further consideration of the big stand over till after the recess. If any opposition was offered to the bill he should also wish to move that a message should be sent to the House of Commons, request ing a copy of the report of the committee on the Warwick Borough Election ; in the second reading be should in addition, if the bill was opposed, consider it ne cessary to go into the whole discussion on the bill, but if it was not, he should be most happy to be spared the trou ble of entering into so disagreeable a subject. At present he should content himself with merely moving that the bill be read a first time. The bill was then read a first time. EASTER RECESS. Lord ELLENBOROUGEL in alluding to certain papers relative to the correspondence that had taken place between the Board of Control and the East India Direc tors, relative to the mandamus applied for against them in the Court of King's Bench, wished to know from the noble earl opposite, when the Easter recess woutd commence and terminate, and whether the paper be had referred to would be laid on the table before or after the recess. Earl GREY said that it had been usual for that house to adjourn for the E ister recess on the Wednesday previous to Good Friday; but as the General Quarter Sessions would commence in that week, and as many noble lords were desirous of attending them, he should propose, if it met with the approbation of their lordships, that the house should adjourn on Monday the 24th of March, to Monday the 14th of April. Lord LITTLETON presented a petition from the Dissenters of Lye-in-the-Waste, near Stourbridge, praying for relief from the disabilities under which they laboured. The noble lord took that opportunity of stating that a mistake had occurred relative to some of the peti tions he had presented on a former evening ; particularly with reference to a petition from Redditch, it having been stated as proceeding from Reading. BEER SHOPS The NOBLE LOAD also presented a petition from the offieiltin4 ministers, parish offivers, end overseers of Seilg ley, against the besr shops. The noble lord trustsd that the petition, coming from such an authority, and relating to so numerous and important a d strict, would be attended to, and that the subject would not be suffered to sleep, but would be taken up and properly settled during the present session. Lord DUNDAS presented petitions from Dissenters in different parts of the country praying for relief. Tire Duke of ARGYLL presented a petition from Cam bletown against church patronage. Lord DACRE presented petitions from Pontypool, in Monmouthshire, and from a parish in Clinbridge, praying for the removal of the disabilities under tvhich the Dis senters laboured. Viscount MELBOURNE presented a petition from nverary against church patronage. ANNANDALE PEERAGE. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY presented a petition from a person named Joseph JAnson, praying that the case which was fixed for hearing on the 18th of the present month, might be postponed. OBSERVANCE OF THE SABBATH. The Bishop of ROCHESTER presented petitions from two parishes in the county of Kent for the better ob servance of the Sabbath. NORTH ANIERICAN POSTAGE BILL The Duke of RICHMOND, in moving the second read ing of this bill,stated that its object was to giye permission to the local legislature of Canada to reduce their rates of post. age, to allow them a moderate postage upon the transmission of newspapers, and to destroy the privilege of franking newspapers, which had existed in that country in the post-masters from time immemorial. The bill was then read a second time, and ordered to be committed. The Bishop of LONDON presented petitions from pa. riches in the counties of Glamorgan, Montgomery, Den bigh, and Norfolk, praying for some legislation to enforce the observance of the Sabbath. The Earl of DURHAM then rose to present the peti tion of which he bad given notice; it was from 76 physi cians practising in London, and within 7 miles of it, who were licentiates of the College of Physicians, complaining of the by-laws which were acted upon by the Fellows— their exclusion from the library and museum of the Col lege, &c. The noble earl said the petition was signed by more than one half cf the physicians who were practising within the seven miles. While upon such a subject as this, it was worth the attention of the house, to see how London was supplied with the higher branch of the profession, as compared with other capitals; hat was a subject that naturally forced itself upon one's attention, when the petition set forth that the public were the sufferers by the number being limited, on account of the working of the by-laws. In Lonrlon, where there was a population of fiiteen hundred thousand, there were only one hundred and eighty practising physicians—in Berlin where there was a population of 249,000 there were 228 physicians,while in Paris,with its population 0f935,000, there were no fewer than 925 physicians in full practice. It might be said that Paris was too well supplied, but that was not the question ; it was rather to see whether, by the operation of the bye-laws of the College of Lon don the public were not forced to go to a lower grade of the profession than they would otherwise do, if there was a more liberal supply of the higher. The charter of the college was granted so long back as the 10th of Henry the Eighth, and if it had been acted upon, the college would have been rni - st beneficial ; but it had been allowed to fall into disuse, and the corporation was now entirely governed by the by-laws complained of. He under-tood that in the 300 years that the college had existed it had only published eighteen volumes of its transactions, while another society, which had been relused a charter through the interference of the col. lege, had also published eighteen volumes within a period of 30 years. He (the noble lord) wished only that the profession should be open to all of any persuasion, and that the fellowship should not be confined to the graduates of Oxford and Cambridge ; be also wished that there should be a just superintendence of the whole medical profession throughout the kingdom. As the petition was one of very great importance, he would take the liberty of moving that the petition be read by the clerk. The petition was then read at length. The principal points were embraced in the observations of the noble earl. Lord MELBOURNE said that without giving an opinion on the various points that had been stated by his noble and learned friend, or upon those contained in the petition, he thought it was due to the medical ttody in London that s imething should be done with regard to the medical profession, and probably their lordships would be aware that there was a committee appointed in order to take the whole matter into their consideration, and if his noble and learned friend was desirous of embarking their lordships into a similar inquiry, he for one should offer no opposi tion to it.—( Hear, hear.) . - The Earl of DURHAM said he had another petition to present, which was from the medical practitioners of Sunderland. With regard to what the noble viscount had stated, he did not know whether the medical gentle men who had intrusted him with their petition ,would consider it necessary to have a committee of their lord ships upon the question. They had stated they were perfectly aware of the existence of a committee of the other house of parliament, but they wished that their case should be brought before their lord ships. If any further request should be made to him by those gentlemen, he would take the first oppor tunity of cotrimunieating it to their lordships. Lord ELLENBOROUGH said it appeared to him from the statement that had been made, and from the little information that lie possessed on the subject, that this was a question as to the convenience rather of individuals than the public, for it aliotud, in jus tice to the medical profession, be stated that the average mortality in this metropolis was very much smaller than either in Berlin or Paris, in which it was supposed the wants of the community were better adaiinistere I and attended to. Io London the average was one out of 40, in Paris one out of 32, and in Berlin one out of 35. The Earl of DURHAM observed that if the noble baron pushed the matter to that extent, the feeling would be de cidedly in favour of apothecarie s practising to the exclusion of physicians, because there were by far a greater number of apothecaries practising in those places than physicians ; and, therefore, according to the noble baron's statement, the cause of the mortality being less there than if was in London, Would be owing to the apotbsearks heint superior to the lAysicians. Lord ELLENBOROUGH confessed he was in , oalue tent to form an opinion upon that subject, inasmuch as he had never consulted a physician in the whole course of his life.—(Hear, hear. and laughter.) The Maritime Mutiny BPI went through a committee, and was ordered to be read a third time to morrow. Th, Suear Duties Bill and the Bristol Railway Bill were read a first time. The house then adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, :Motor 18. The SPEAKER took the chair at five o'clock. Mr. BARNARD presented a petition from a person named George Jones, against the Southampton Railway Bill. Mr. GUEST presented petitions from the dissenters of Merthyr Tidv 1, Glamorganshire, and Cardiff. Mr. MAXWELL presented a petition from the pa rochial schoolm,sters of Lanark, in Scotland, praying fur an increase of their salaries—(Laughter)—which were disproportioned to their services. They submitted that the sum of 601. annually was a fair minimum, and 751. the maximum. Mr. LEWIS moved that a new writ be issued for the b0r01,211 of Thirsk, Yorkshire, in the room of Sir R. Frank land. Alderman WOOD presented a petition from a congre• gation of Dissenters in Barbican, City of London. Mr. GILLON gave notice that on the 6th of May he should move for a committee of inquiry regarding the ce•tific.ites for the sale of wine and spirits. Sir HENRY HARDINGE presented a petition for the repeal of the malt tax, from the parish of St Mary Mag dalen, Cornwall. Mr. WILBRAHAAI presented a petition from the Dissenters of Morpeth, county of Chester. . . . Colonel DAVIES asked whether the evening sitting was a proper time for the presenting of petitions? The SPEAKER said that the house commenced sitting at five o'clock, and until it was prepared to enter into the business of the evening, it was arranged that petitions should he presented in the interval. BANK OF ENGLAND. Mr. CAYLEY moved for returns of the annual amount of notes issued by the Rink of England, and the total amount of the same for the last fire years. DEATHS AND MARRIAGES (REGISTRATION). Mr. WILKS begged to ask the noble lord the CHan cellor of the Exchequer, whether his Majesty's Go vernment had received any notice of the intention of the honourable and learned member for S iuthwark, to introduce a bill for a general registration of deaths and marriages ? He also begged to inquire whether his ALijesty's government had resolved to sinction that bill ? Lord ALTHORP sail the hon. and learned member for Southwark had introduced his bill without having had any previous communication with the government. His Majesty's government was decidedly favourable to the general registration of deaths and marriages, and therefore to the principle of the hon. and learned member's bill ; but until they had heard what the details were, they could not pledge themselves to its entire support.—(Hear.) Mr. BARING presented a petition Born the Trusters of the British Museum.—Laid on the table. AGRICULTURAL DISTRESS. Mr. P. B. THOMPSON pr , s,nted a petition from Bridlington, in Yorkshire, complaining of agricultural di tress. Mr. O'REILLY moved for returns of the amount or duties charged upon foreign vessels entering the ports of Ireland, and some returns connected with the Ballast Office. REGISTRATION OF DEEDS. Mr. CAYLEY rose, in pursuance of a notice he had given on the fir-t clly of the i.ession, to move for leave to brine in a bill to esiablish a public registration of ail deeds, incumbrances, &c. affcting lands - and tenements in England and Wales. He hail given that notice in consequence of a bill which had been introduced last sessson by the hon. member (or Southwark, which had been lost on the second reading. (Hear.) In the inter mediate time that honourable member had given notice that be would bring in another bill to the same effect, to that course he (Mr. Cawley) had not the slightest objec tion. The course which be (Mr. .C.) proposed to adopt was this—in case the house allowed him an opportunity to bring in a bill, and gave him leave to have it printed, he did not intend to interfere in the slightest way with the bill of the honourable member for Southwark. He con f-ssed that he anticipated the same results as hid taken place last session, but he believed that hie (Mr. C.'s) bill would be more satisfactory to the public. After the report of the revenue commissioner:, he did not conceive the country had any other alternative than to call on the house to pass either such a hill as he had now the honour to move for leave to bring in, or the bill which had been proposed already by another hon. gentleman. He would not now enter into the particulars of his measure, as they would have to be discussed hereafter. The object of his bill was that those who might be about to purchase estates should be sure that such estates would become their own, and that those who might be disposed to lend money on mort gage should be satisfied that their money would be per fectly secured. Mr. W. BROUGHAM thought the measure now proposed to be brought in identically the same as his (Mr. Brougham's), both in principle and machinery, with this difference, that whereas lie (Mr. B.) proposed that the registration should be established in London ; the present proposed measure intended that registration offices should be established, probably, one in each county throughout England. Under these circumstances he begged to put it to the hon. member whether it would not be better to save the expense of having a new bill brought in for that difference only, and that he should move, probably in the form of an amendment, when his (Mr. Brougham's) bill was in committee, far the insertion of a clause to be introduced in that bill for the appointment of district offices. He merely proposed this for the consideration of the hon. gentleman. Mr. CAYLEY made an observation which was in audible, but it was clear he did not accede to the propo s;tion of the last speaker, inasmuch as he availed himself of the leave which he had obtained to bring in the bill, THE BISHOPS. Mr. CUTHBERT RIPPON, in rising to make his motion, which was to relieve the archbishops and bi shops from their judicial functions in the House of Lords, stated that he was well aware of the difficul ties with which he was surrounded. However, he did not bring it forward from any love of popularity, but he offered it from a long formed conviction of its necessity. He wished to enlist no p irtizans, and no party feeling, in the question, nor was he about to touch upon any theoretic ,l topics, or to discuss the policy of the connection between church and state. His only object was to offer his motion as a measure of policy. He could not forbear calling the attention of the house to the opinion of one whose opinion was entitled to great weight—viz., Lord Bacon. I,The hon. member then quoted a passage from Lord Bacon, but in so low a tone that it was not heard! in the Gallery.] Two hundred years had since elapsed, and the establish ment had still been continued. But a revolt had taken place in the minds of men—an intelligent commuity had demanded a reform in the church. He maintained that it was the first duty of all civil governments to afford satis- faction to those by whose opinions they were maintained. He requested the house to obs,rve the signs of growing discontent, and to remember by what means the reforma- titan advanced. It was not his intention to weary the attention of the house by referring to times long gone by, nor should he consider that the right of Bi• shops to sic in Parliament was sanctioned by ancient usage. The times changed the condition of circum stances—the superior knowledge and education of the clergymen had enabled them to maintain a superior in fluence in former times over the people, when nobles were unlettered, and kings could scarcely sign their names. At the time of Aliecket, the office of Chancellor was filled by churchmen. At that time there sat in the other house three or four archbishops, besides bishops, abbots, and priors, making in the whole 54 or 55 ecclesiastics He considered the present as the first step in church re form. He wished to begin with the heads of the esta blishment, in order to stow to the inferior clergy that they would not act with impartiality. They ought then to consider whether it was meet or useful that the beads of the Christian church, whose duty rendered it necessary that they should be retired from the world, whose profession was utility, who had renounced the primps and vanities ut the world, was it meet or proper that they should be made agents in political affairs? Was it right to impose such duties upon those who were set apart for the service of God, and whose proper and sole duty ought to be the care of the church of Christ ? What then were the evils of the present system ? They were pluralities non-rtsidence, and the unjust division of wealth. What was it that caused nonresidence of the bishops, or at least in some measure justified it, but their compulsory absence from their bishoprics to attend in the other house ? And the unequal division of wealth was justified by the extraordinary expenses which their attendance upon their political duties required. They were compelled to mix with the splendour of the metropolis; to share in its pleasures, and to gratify their pride, luxury, and in duienee......(Hear.) Before h e proceeded, he would, with the p" - eit4seion of the houee, examine an argument which ad bee put forth by the friends of the establishment, in justification of the practice of sitting in the other house of Parliament. It was said that they were the representa tives of the gre it body of the clergy, and that they watched over the temp wet and spirituel welar.e of the church. But were they chosen by the c!ecg) ? No, they were or da ned as virtually appointed by the King. llow, the:), could they be called the representatives of the clergy when the clergy bad no voice in their selection ? They were, in fact, state, made parliament men. Private interest and court favour offered a more powerful recommendation than private worth. The evils of translation made the bishops dependant upon ministerial favour. The possession of state patronage must necessarily create an adverseness to change, as its effect must be to diminish their power. They ought also to see whether the conduct of parties intrusted with this power was such as to create a tendency to oppose all political improvements, for the purpose of maintaining that power which they at present held.— The pages of history were full of evidence that the object of episcopal ascendancy was to support despotism, but he would not now go over the history of former times, as every gentleman acquainted with it was able to form his own judgment. The plea of exclusive knowledge being invested in the clergy, or the heads of the church, wes no longer valid, and it was very desirable that those exalted persons should exhibit the force of example, and show that their engagement in the of fices they held was purely from a desire to promote the cause of religion. The ministry of their sees would fur nish sufficient and full employment for the prelates, espe ciaily when it was recollected that they were overseers of hundreds of subordinate shepherds, from whose circle they were now removed for a long period throughout the year. The establishment had property, it was true, to a considerable amount in its temporalities, which ought certainly to be represented, but not by the bishops or any other officers of religion whose peculiar duty was to pro mote the practice of good works, purity of coaduet, and spirituality of mind.—(Hear, hear.) In fact, the property of the church was sufficiently represented already, inasmuch as the clergy were entitled to vote for representatives in the House of Commons. Let it then be shown that they took office, not for the sake of filthy lucre, and let the bead of the church be considered as the guardian of their interests.—(ll , ar, hear.) The pre late and the pastor would then be enabled to turn their eyes only to the duties of religion, and disencumber themselves from all secular and worldly concerns. A tnes.age was sent from the House of Lords, for a report of the committee that sat on the Warwick Borough Bill.—As-enred to. Mr. GILLON seconded the motion of his friend, the lion. member for Gates! e-id. It was one which had the avention of the public out of doors, and de• served to be entertained with a correiip , miling degree of attention in that house.—(Hear.) He would follow the example of his hon. friend, and be brief in his re- marks. He should concele that as far as usage went to smcti n th•• . practice of clog)men being legisla•ors, that lay on the other side of the que.tion. Flom the most re mote periods the clergy were allows d to legislate. Before a parliament sat at all the clergy were the only instructors of pt inces, and were admitted into the Gmedium of the nation. But the antiquity of the pracice wAs no reason why it should he continue t, on the contrary, it was a ieason why it should be the snore speedily aboli.bed.— (Hear.) In the year 1641 a bill was introduced :rim parliament for the 'impose of disabling bishops to sit in the legislature. Their right was defend d then on three groan is—namely, the antiquity of the practice; the little h inn likely to IT done by the abselice of those pre lates from their dioceses once every three yea's; and lastly, the great probaudity that tl,e respect in which they were held by the public might be impaired by their removal from the legislature. The important point of a bishop's residing in his diocese was con sidered then ; and now that the absence of one teas occasioned so frequently, and for so long a time, it si ould meet with much more consideration. If the superintendence of the bishops over their dioceses was so requisite, how was it to be supposed that, in addi tion to these duties, they should take upon th,naselves the cares and business of legislttion, and make themselves ac quainted with the intricacies of politics and the state pro ceedings of tie day—duties, be was justified in saying, that hen. members of that house found sufficiently onerous ? When, in addition to these duties, they had added those of promoting and extending reliwon among the people, who, he would ask, would be able to fulfil such a task? The fluid objection, that it would take a, ay the respect tshich they at present rnjoyed from the people, ii they were deprived of their sea's in the other house, was by no means a good one, as the effect would be directly the reverse. . _ In all times it had been found that in proportion as clergy- Men had merged their sacred ch r acre re in the arena of poli. tics, in the stnie proportion they had lost the respect oi the people. On that position, he should make a few short ex tracts from the speech of a distinguished nobleman and states man, Lord S and Seale. The hon member proceeded to read an extract from the noble lord's speech, in which he ascribed much of the anarchy and blood shed that had devastated the earth to the interterence of churchmen in politics. The hon. member proct•eoed. He would ask them had they not an example of that picture in the pres'nt times ? Had they not seen Ireland made the theatre of contention and bloody strife, in order to continue an anti-national priesthood upon the country, and force upon them a creed which the people did not profess? Another part of the history of the country to which he would refer was the bill introduced in 1801, for disabling churchmen from sitting in that house of the legislature. It had been then stated that the same reasons that existed for excluding the Bishops from the other house might be urged against their being allowed to sit in that house. The advocates of these senri ments were no less statesmen than Mr. Grey and Mr. Fox. He thought, as was then contended, that by that measure au act of injustice was passed ; for while he should wil lingly concur in excluding all endowed clergy from either house, on the broad ground that they could not efficiently discharge the duties of both offices, he was inclined to think that when a clergyman chose to separate himself from his holy calling, and to devote himself exclusively to secular offices, it was unjust to him, and to the constituency of the country, in a Reformed Parliament, tbat he should be incapable of becoming one of their representatives. He was happy to observe that the hon. member for Cam bridge intende Ito bring forward a bill on this subject; it should certainly have his support. Let them now look to what had been pissing amongst themselves. It was argued that it was fitting that the bishops should have seats in tie other house of the legislature in order to defend the rights and property of the church. Had their interference been confined, he would ask, to ecclesiastical subjects? Had their intermeddling in State affairs been of that nature painted out by the Bishop of London ? Or had they not taken an active part in all those intrigues and cabals which rendered the present times the most famous (he would not use a stronger ex pression) in bistoty ? Had they not mixed themselves up with the factions and combinations in this and the last parliament that they seemed not to content themselves with such comments upon our spiritual privileges, but had envied us our civil freedom ? He agreed with the Reverend " Chan'thman" who bad thus eloqueney written :—" If it be admitted that the value of any public station, considered in its own abstract effects, or as it bears on and is necessarily connected with the general interests of society, be commensurate with its utility, it follows that every privilege or occupation of the person holding such sta ion should have an affinity to the essential qualities of his office, and the objects for which it was constituted. If this be admitted, my Lord, what connection of a useful or moral kind hasa stormy midnight debate in the House of Lords with the peaceful tenor of life and manners which become an eccle-iastic? * * * * *. Whilst such a temple as the House oft Lords is open for the entrance of spiritual men, and such ladders of ambition as from Llandaff to Canterbury, and from Oasory to Armagh, pride will hold its domino- , tine, and exercise it over the hearts of men. If a precedent be wanting for the removal of the bishops from the House of Lords, b , hold it in the exclusion of all the peerage of Ireland, except of the t +enty-eight representa tives. And let it be recollected that their right was here ditary. It is most weakly argued that the bishops repre sent the church, and refrain from every debate unless where the interests of that church are concerned. This, we we ] know, is not always the case ; and it is objected that they can vote on all occasions. Where the affairs of the church require the assistance and sanction of Parfit ment, can it be d oubted that they would be received with respect, and treated with favour, by that Parliameni, upon a formal representation of the bishops, rather than by a Ptrliam tit perhaps, exasperated by the opposition or advocacy, no matter which, of spiritual men, of same public measure, which had been the suiject of debate amongst men of the first-rate talents, with their passions excited by a contest for victory? When I use these argu ments I mean no invidious application ; the mot al, 'again say, grows out of the obliquity of human affairs. 1 verily believe that there are many bishops of sanctified hearts, single-minded, and of just conduct. Yet do I think that all such should be tar removed from suspicion ; and that vanity and arrogance would be imputed to them were they animated by the zeal of St. Paul, ano adorned with the simplicity of the disciple whom Jesus loved, end on whine gentle bosom he leaned." The ' pride, pomp, and circumstances of evorldlq toi • t: ted not the followers of n humble and lowly master ; a heated and angry debate in the Houle of Lords accorded lint i l with the meekness and charity which should dig-,I tinguish a Christian minister. The arena of polit cal di•putation was no place for the presence of a me , sengec • of peace. He would remove those right reverend prelates 1, wn a scene so unbefitting their presence ; from the fri velities of a court and the temptations of a capital; and would enable them, by devoting themselves to the duties of their sacred calling, by the preaching and the prat ice of Christian charity, to make themselves truly respected and beloved. One point more be would allude to and he td done. What justice was there that there should be in one house of the legislature the representatives of one church and one sect alone? Why were they to be more favoured than the established church of Scotland, or than t' e tens of thousands, the millions, who in every part of empire conformed not to the favoured creed ? What course his Majesty's ministers might adopt in regard to Cis motion he knew not, but it was but too easy to guess. The measure being carried which they bad looked t a as a means of annihilating their political rivals formed y n power, their motto seemed now to be, " Thus far shalt thou go, and no further." No one measure of efficient and s itisfactory reform had met with their concurrence. The church and the aristocracy were taken under their espee cial protection, while the people, on whose shoulders they were carried into power, were forgotten. Lord ALTHORP rose amidst renewed cries or " Question, question," and said, "If I thought any rea cldertaagiirie; .:n t a h b e l e m n o u t t i n o h n e r o f o f t t h h e e h m o e n m . b g e e r n s t l o e f man this I h o u sh se a u w l d o u feel it my duty to discuss it with him, hut I do not.— (Loud cheers.) I am convinced the House would not en tertain such a motion—(Renewed cheere)—and therefore I feel myself excused from going into any discussion upon the subject.—(Renewed cheering, which continued for some minutes, and cries of " Question, question.") Sir W. INGILBY could not but regret the determina tion to which the noble lord had come upon a question so important as that referred to in the motion of his hon. friend. It would, in his judgment . , be better to have the subject dispassionately argued pro and con in that house than to leave it to the discussion of the people out of doors who entertained a strong feeling upon it.--(No, no, and Question.) What ! did not the dissenters entertain a s-rong feeling upon it, and was it not one of the reasons assigned for the numerous dissents which had recehtly t iken place from the established church ? The bishops ought not to be allowed to sit in Parliament ; they had other more important duties to attend to than political affairs ; and he was satisfied the time had come when that house, reformed as it was, must not only entertain but discus this question.—(oh, oh, and Hear.) Mr. TENNYSON fully agreed that this was a subject of the utmost importance. both in its nature and as to all its results. He also concurred with his hon. friend who had just sat down that it was a subject which ought not to be pawed over without discussion, believieg ac Le did that great excitement prevailed on the question out of doors._(Cries of " No, no," and " Heir.") lie was the r tpreseotative of a numerous constituent y, and he could sty that in those parts of the country with which he R.:4 best acquainted the feeling which he had deserihed existed tt a considerable extent. But at all events, the question was one which it would be desirable to discuss, in order t! ,at the grounds upon which they proceeded, in any c :n -clusien to which they might come, should be understood by the country. He begged, however, to say that it was not his intention at present to vote for the motion of his honourable friend the member for Gateshead, and for the reason that he considered this subject .mly as part of those church reforms which be expected before long to see realized, and that it would be ureair to deprive the government of any part of that support to which they were entitled in accomplishing the changes which they proposed making in the ecclesiastical tem poralities. He thought that before any step of this de setiption was taken they should wait to see what the measures were which the government intended to bring forward. He suggested that one way of appeasing the popular outcry on this subject would be to 'effect a more rational equality of emolument among the clergy. If this were done the presence of the bishops in the House of Lords would be less objectionable than at present. The die-- smters naturally thought it unfair that the church of Eog land should be so largely represented when they were not represented at all. The right hon. gentleman opposite (Mr. Stanley) smiled at this, hut he (Mr. Tennyson) must say that he respected the feeling from which the discontent of the dissenters arose. He was a Protestant, a member of the church of England, and he felt as ardent a desire as any one to maintain the establishment securely and efficiently. The present system of representation adopted in the church exposed the bishops to much ani madversion ; but that might be avoided, and to the satis faction of all parties, if, instead of sitting for life, they sat in rotation, as the Irish bishops did. There could be no doubt that the employment of the bishops in secular affairs was a great disadvantage to the character of the church ; and some step should be taken to remove the evil. He had no objectioa to allow a certain number of bishops to sit in the House of Lords to watch over ecclesias tical affairs ; but it would be for the benefit of the church itself if that number was smaller than at present. They should, however, be precluded from intermeddling in secular affairs, and above ell, they should not be at !Mercy to add their weight to either side in disposing of political questions in their nature purely secular.—(Hear, and cries of " Question.") Mr. H. HUGHES said he was convinced that the course which his Majesty's Government had taken on this occasion would meet with the approbation of the great majority of the people in the country.—(Hear, hear.) The opinion which the noble lord had expressed that this question should not be discussed was the opinion of the great bulk of the nation.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. JAMES rose amidst renewed cries of " Question," and " Oh, ob."—He said that the reason his Majesty's government had declined answering the speeches of the bon. gentlemen who moved and seconded the motion was because they bad no answer to give to the arguments which his hon. friends bad adduced.—(A laugh, " Oh, oh," and cries of " Question.") He was convinced they bad not, or they never would have been induced to get rid of the question as they had done, with out discussion.—(oh, oh, and cries of •‘ Question.") Mr. BUCKINGHAM was scarcely audible in the gallery.—He felt convinced that the Church of Engl ind would stand upon much higher ground if the Bishops had 1 1 no seat in the House of Lords. With respect to any difficulty arising from their possessing vested interests, it might be got rid of. The numbers of the Dissenters had increased, and were daily increasing, owing, as he con sidered, in a great measure to the connection between church and state. The minority upon this question be knew would be small, but that would not prevent it from being fully discussed out of doors. Mr. E. RUTHVEN said the people out of doors felt great difficulty in believing the sacredness of the episcopal character when they saw the great revenues enjoyed by the Bishops and the manner in which they disposed of them. Mr. O'REILLY said that as he should vote on this question, he was anxious to have it understood by the house and by his constituents upon what grounds he would vote. Whether, as a Roman Catholic, he was bound or not bound by the oath he took on admission to that house to do nothing tending to subvert or to weaken the Pro- testant church as by law established—whatever might be the interpretation put upon the oath—he felt that at least lie, as a Roman Catholic, bad entered into a compact, and that compact he would adhere to.—(Hear.) He felt himself bound to give to the Protestant church—not as a religion, because, as a religion, he entirely differed from it, but as the church to which they belonged who admitted him into that house as an institution dear to them, and the preservation of which they considered of the highest Importance—he would give it that support which be thought himself bound by that compact to give to it. An influential member of that house (Mr. O'Connell, we be lieve) said he did nut consider that any moral compact had been entered into upon the occasion of the Catholic Relief Bill having been passed. However that might have been, he at 1. est recognised such a compact. This opinion might not be popular with many persons in the country from which he cane, who were yet smarting under the injuries and oppressions inflicted upon them by those who were a lberents to the established c h u r ch ; b ut he felt confident that the se ntiments he expressed upon thi s po i nt were those of every honest, i ndependent, and int e lli gent man who considered the subject. Till the legislature should come to some determination as to the precise meaning and force of the oa'h he took on admission to that house he would vote according to his conscience upon this and every other question connected with th e c h urc h. H e wou ld opposea all todo w thei i i t io t, . ::1 - „ ( ii. l llear; hear.) was a question mer.ly of poli- Air. O'CONNELL said this q ues ti on b a d not hi ng a t tical franchise. Could he persuade himself that it leas oue of religion b e c rta i n l y wou l d not i nterfere w ith i t . If i t coo d be satisfactorily shown to him that the clicunistance of bishops having setts in the H iuse of Lundy was productive of any political good . t‘i the people, that it tended to th e support of the -r heri a, t;,e advancement of their temporal or spirltu,l in.e rest9, the cheapness of goveinuient or the n-piession of abuses, be would be one of the last men to deprive them of their privilege. When be recollected, however, that