The Sun. — London, England, 1856-06-17 00:00:00

. - - . . . „. .. - . _ , . _ -"" '; ? r•, •; .e,. . : . .- .s• . . . . . . . . . . - . . _ , . . . .. .. . . THE_IIII_,UN, LONDON, TUESDAY JECtIiNIN eh . JUNE If i 145 i f .. . . _ ___. . .. . „,....,„„---kzio,l - - - , - _ . ~ . , , . q uegion is thig, what ino in the Ueited Stelae; but lam qu it e su r e th a t the , c h o i ce of the CommanderdroChieg The next gnee. i legions instead of Britieh troops. Great advantages heel • house, and those whe lied appointed him hed the ademl- - - ''f4""wlag"""rl"'""';•'"'-'-'-'"'v* - 06111'St) 4 V . Vtiettittithti ' 'edits, tit In MC Th* tight hem, baronet having ' stated th; assaults on the inhabitants. The ' : Wrh4htls en whiolt the applleetlon was inede, course should our Government adopt under such a state hase well not for a moment recognise the distinction which tion he had to aek was with regard to the fail pay of the i been given to foreign troops as compared with our troops tag° of his vote. the United States have made on . this subject - (hear , hear) cavalry officers retiring fro m th e serv i ce. Th e „l e „ w ! aw l to e m iliti a . The foreign troops were enlisted for one Mr. ADDEIRLET wished to know how far the tarty , ..- Tho bill was agreed to. T thet if there has b , een responsibility inearrei. they will proposed was to allow them full pay only according to the I year after the ratification of the treaty of pe a ce with regiments that were to be sent to the colonies were to be CHELMSFORD-Jcsvit 13. high ° of circumstances ? I have no doubt that they woul d d siderably . _ i 1 I el , -I-'e Ce reesnment responsible. (H eer , h ear , ran k f r om w hi c h each officer rotiied. When he brougst Ressia, and the cost of each man would amount to 601., au augmentation of the forces already there ? Five regi- At the commencement of business con ede b e e . OUR RELATIONS WITH A MERICA. think it their duty to protect the British person an British property in any such case. I should not wonder ! um, eler . ajee,,y e k .. a . u i . c h eers ) I t rus t, sir , th s t no matter what may he the question before the house last year he was told the whilst the mon who enlisted in this country did not cost ments were to be sent to the North American colonies. prices wer e as k e d, b u t she purchasers did not 8 ,"„ or n of , . bp. the motion that the house go into committee of the amount of difficulty or p er il, th e House o f C ommons retired pay wou ld be eccor :log to the infantry standard' more than from 12/. to Pi/. The Turki s h c on ti n gent was Such a force could be of no utility for the defence of such rise of more than 2s on last Week's rates.. Wins - 7 if they were disposed to have such a force in the neigh is prepare d t o t a k e thi s th e earliest opportunity af- The Warrant Of Oct• 1 , 184 0, ordered that the retired Pay slower in formation, and was less available for service than a great territory, while its eff ee t would be to arrest the all soits 1 9 per qr . d earer . supply,. . 0.. .• bourhood as would enable them to perform thst duty. forded to them, to announce that they will not fix On of a lientenaut-colonel should be 17s a-day, that of a any troops which could be raised in this country. It had raising of a native force iu the colonies themselves. So long wheat, white, old,per s. a. • ' .23 29 - Lard J. RUSSELL rose and eaid--Sir, it appears to However, whether they would think it their duty te in qr.s4 80 Oats, per qr ............. ei. 43 ine that we cannot properly, as the House of Commons, terfere at a ll in respec t t o N icaragua I k now no t ; b u t I an i n di v id ua l who at all events has attemptsd to do his msjor 163., that of 115 captains 13.3. 7d . ., and that of the been given as an excuse for the fall of Kars, that the as the colonies were defended bv forces from this country, 1 res - . • new.... 53 78 Peas, Partridge .• ' .. * . 0 4 / se think it is a question uPon which we ought to have some duty to his So v e rei g n and his country , and has rePre - ' t Ils 7d It was now ordered by the warrant of Oct., Turkish Contingent was not in such a s t a te that it could they were sources of weakness lo the country; but if the _. go into committee upon the last rem a i n i ng m ilitary es... . h • b sea t e d th e t he acted on the instructions of his superiors, ' 1854, that officers should retire upon the full Pay of the be sent on service. That showed that the money which colonies raised th e i r own f orces th e y th en b ecame as o urce red, old 52 74 White...... ...... 41 4 8 , information. I say this because the reports on tissu • . • mates of the year without asking for some explanation ject are conflicting. I saw in a newspaper to-day that . a req. onsibility which should attach to the Governs I rank which they eleit, and_ that they should not be eligible had beeh spent upon it was so much loss. We could not of strength to the mother country. As to the vote for the new 51 73 Boiling ....... *.4l 42 ment whose agent he was. ( Hear.) I trust that the House 1 for further promotion. .N ow, when •it was remembered maintain a militia force and vre ought not but we should Kaffir frontier he should certainly on the next occasion B ar l e y 31 39 Dun ............... . 31 39 - from her Majesty's Government as to the position in. of Commons will not, on such an occasion, dec are t a er ve. a arge sum 1 ht h ht 1 s were paid by officers of the cavalr f 1 ' • ' • • • y or a ways preserve a nucleus round which the force might be divide the house against the vote. That vote was for the Chevalier 3 t 43 Beans, Tiele .......... 39 41 ships of the United States were allowed to cahry men, Harrow ticks ,e . which we are placed in regard to the government of passengers, and even military stores inte Greytown e . Majesty's Minister to s „Ainerica is to be accepted as a scaPe• their commissions, and how small was the increase of their formed in case of an invasion. For this purpose we should purpose of carrying out a mischievous experiment. Grinding 29 37 36 4. goat. (Cheers.) In offering that remark to the house, sir, pay, he thought they were not well dealt with, nor placed have a really efficient drill. But it was quite an imposi- Mr. LABOUCHERE had no hesitation in answering the Mlt 72 76 Mazagan ........... 36 - the United States of America. (Hear.) If there were And, sir, it seems to me that such a course would b lam passing no opinion on the conduct of the Government iOn the same footing as the infantry officers. He COM - tion upon the country to keep the staff which w a s proposed question of the honourable gentleman by saying that there 74 78 Ditto, new.. hW negotiations going on at the present time the Govern- consistent with the respect due to the flag of the United , States. (Hear.) But I have likewise seen it stated in a in reference to the subject to which allusion has this even" plained further of theereteospective action of the warrant. to be preserved, consisting mei ely of a batch of sergeants, was no change whatever intended in the policy by the ....._ ment would, no doubt, rightly say, that according to te l e ra bi c message th a t her Majesty's ship Euryalus i ng b een ma de. This is not the occasion on which I should There was an'ther ob-lection that he had, to the form of a few bugle's and a few officers. Such a staff as he recom- Government w ith regar d t o C ana d a . Th e po li cy w „ t o Intl a tzeo T ttl e : t ffi s i cLr i s in i . l T r zh . 3(l T ‘ t!la in 't N ti tr e ( t l , :i ff t , li v e e o r i n i er n rA:f oc r t e a vi n t3:g a t te r u h p a o i n b t e h e e n tr t lt - A . t a l l e: d p n ece re of l f e a r :i7la t . o rntl3l4oatts) a Chevalier COLCHESTER- JUNI 14. asked chock gi all former practice it would be inconvenient to the pub- A . . fair supply of wheae; the high peices __. g s e her. is in g th P e habit of interfering with the ships entering do so ; but I wish to guard thyself aegainst accepting with- certificate neceva i r l y m t i : a t si o lie Bet viee before these 'negotiations were brought to a, G re ytown, and ove rhauling them before their arrival out demur the distinction wnicn tne uniteci States Govern- case . of claim foe r tlt business, but all descriptions were again 25 per hr ag a' pe es an act ofjuetice to a large portion of the artny. posing the staff would be kept up. If no employnaent was no intentien of revertine to thoold s steu; of sc Uteri - conclusion th a t any di scuss i on shoul d ta g, p l ace upon a t p or t. N o w, s ir, I think that we should have some Meat has drawn between the conduct of Mr. CramP t°u and in view would lnvolve n° e xpense t° the country , and army Purposes, while the military habits of the men corn- ga r r i sons o f Ki ngs t on, H a lif ax. an d Q ue b ec and there we; the conduct of her Majeety'd Government. (Ilear.) Sir, I would be explanation from the Government on Ode matter, so mest distinguish b e t we en th ose t wo questions connected Lord NAAS asked what the intentions of the Govern- found for them, on the other hand, he believed that they troops through the colonies. As to the money fo ' r Souk Barley very scarce, and 2s per qr. dearer. Bean ° . • were each ls per qr. dearer. ee s ; - the Matter. But the question now is, whether any ea 74St° Africa, no money, he could assure the hon. gentleman, Prices to-da,ywere as follow :-Wheat, wee-e, _ . eeal e, 2hs•••"'" . • negotiations whatever shall take place with the United t • ' h . hI h hat public anxiety should, as far as possible be not an end to. (Hear.) The two questions, teen, wlc ave nith the United States, and which have so much inte - me it w . ere with . regard to the . brigadier generals of tho would lose their military habits. rested this country • and although this is not the Inn" army in the Citmea, and also with regard to the second Mr. DISRAELI complained of the manner in which the could be better spent, used, as it was, for the tranquilisa- red, 70s to 745; barley, 38s to 43s ; oats, 233 to .. _ ego , • States ? (Hear, hear.) The facts I conceive to be these. to ade my noble friend are-first, whether it is the inten- ment to enter upon ' a discussion on either of them, yet, lieutenant-colonele, junior captains, lieutenants, and en - estimates had he" brought forward. The first estimates lion and civilisation of the natives of that colony. Mazagan, 38s to 40s ; middle and small, 42s to 4 40 hr - Despatches have beett received by her Majesty's Govern- tions of her Majesty's Government, afterthe coursetaken f o ll ow i eg th e exam pl e o f th e noble lord (Lord J. Russell), signs of regiments , in the evoot of the reduction of their laid on the table in February consisted of 31 millions. The Captain LAFFAN s a id r e f erence h a d b een ma d e t o him white, 42s to 44s ; grey, 403 to 42e. - I must, in order to avoid misunderstanding, be Permitted several corps ; a h lso what ceurse was to be taken with re- reduced estimates now on the table amounted only to 20 as inspector of fortifications, and it had been said that he -a,. recel" l : Ment, which have been laid before both houses of Par- by the Government of the United States with respect to I gard to the officers of the Land Transport Corps and miliions. He thought they had a right to have expected had been appointed by the G o v ernmen t i n or d er to obtain Official Statement of the Quantities of Corns "'""he n froal - liament, in which it was stated, upon the authority Mr. Crampton, to pursue a similarhourse with regard . to to . naake one or two observations. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Dallas and to break off all diPlomattc conanotioica - wish the House of Commons to take this opportueity- whether any man who has served as an officer of ' that that the r ight h°n. gentleman sho u l d have made a state " his vote. Now, it so happened that he was opposed to • in the port of London, f ro m the following 1 ,05-1 ' of oO.r ambassador, that with respect to the question .. ' G t 2 Th th e gm , w h a t ever ma y b e their nl:imate dechion on the questions regiment is to be sent back to serve as a non-commissioned ment showing the manner in which the reductions had the Government, for one vot e h e h a d g i ven t o th e G over n. the Bth to the 14th June, both inclusive. .. tion between the two overnmen s . e o e west _ at sta.ke-of celmly inquiring what is the cause of those officer . in eegiments _of the line. He wished to know if been ca:ried out, and the principle up on w hi c h they had went he had voted three times against them. When he rc- --- - 'of recruitment in the United States the Ante equentl -arisine• Misuuderstandings between th e b riga d ier -generals were merely to assume the rank in been conducted. This had been done a few nights ago by ceived the a ointment he ws t pp a old that he was appointed ri: l't 4 e 4 4 il tion is, vvhether, supposine that not to be the, ca- se, rirean goveinment have declared their assent to the ex• sures have been taken, after due deliberation, by her painful and fr y . ~ . . y with respect to the nava without reference to his being a member of Parliament, Pi this country and the United btaies ; because , "r , I agree theit respective regiments which they held before the war, the First Lord of the Admiralt ' 1 ' •g i A 6. A •planations of her Majeety's Government; to the effect Majesty's Government, in order to prevent, as iar as f with lesth noble lords who . have addressed You that be' in which case a seeere hardship would be inflicted upon estimates, and he thought that the committee would not and solely aa an officer of engineers. tween America and Great Britain the" , ougnt to be rela - them. The hardshi . p upon the seceind lieutenant-colonels be justified to their censtituencies in proceediog with the Mr. BUCK said he merely alluded . to the matter to show _.-- ---• - that her Majestethi Government had no intention what- possible, any collision between the ships and forces o tions of constant sympathy and cordial alliance. Ne'v, sir. would not be less , and the other officers he had men- estimates unless the chief clerk of the ordnance made such that in France the office of the hon. and gallant gentleman Colchester 6O - I 350 i --- .... ever to violate the law of the States, and that it was with her Mejesty's Government and the ships and fo h rces of .1 re , oug not in the same degree a statement. would be competitive. -•- Elarwich 133 -- 370' - ee .-- • regret t s hey had taken any proceeding which amounted to the Government of the United States ? (Hear ) For my it is impossible for a moment to suppoe3 that the actual tionod would be inu dth h • osvn part I feel that the commanders of the ships of the re cruiting, or the extent ta which tnat system of recruit - with the lieutenant - celonels, who would b e i n a worse p os i_ The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER disclaimed Captain LAFFAN said administrative offices could not 306 16 -\ - iw e --7- ' h . 560 a Violation of the law of the United St a t e s. s o f ar th en u n i t ;d st a t es an d th e comman d e rs of the ships of her • ing was carried-especially after the manner in which 2 P°' tion in rega rd to P romo t i on than if they had never left our any intenti mal disrespect towards the committee in a go- b e ma de competitive an ywh ere . Th ey m i g h t as we ll ma k e Lei g h llalden ,1145 - 7g - 25 ° - ' . _aaregards this question between the two governments kajosty's G overnmen t w ill rece i ve such orders, and they legies were offered by . 1 . 11 . Governea.t _ : _ ca b e t h e cause s h ores . Th e officers of th e L an d T ranspor t c or p s h a d n e ral statement not having been made with respect to Cabinet Ministers competitive. _ will act so agreeably in concert that theY will "t all°w c ' e Um ' i n isimderstandin g s Qf wh i c h it is said t° have been been taken from the non-commissioned officers of the line; these estimates. But it was thoueht that it would be bet- Col. NORTH called attention to the merits of the sea.- KIRKCALDY-Jura 11. • er e : directly it appeare to be • at an end. But the government geants of the army. There was no class of men more deserv- ' h W ill those misera,ble atates in Centre , 1 America to bring th'ise th° c ' ecasmn " I w3nt t° kn " wn Ye whehi an OPpOrt,uoity an d it would be an injustice now to send them back to that ter to give an explanation . with r:spect to each vote. occurs, the Government of the - United btates, e ven w h e n r „k . It wou ld be an injustice to these gallant men if Sir DE LACY EVANS also complained of the want of ing of consideration. of the United States do not give the same credit to our commenced by asking extravagant prices, causing _ ge t admittiug the cause is a just one, are se precipitate ip . th e y were placed in any disadvantage in cense uence of information with respect to these votes. After paying a Lord HOTHAM wished to know if there was to be o.ny ' ambassador, Mr. Crampton, as they are willing to give two great nations into hostile collision. (Cheers.) Sir, 1.. th - q " • 1 2 3 th ' arrant last 0 1 ,,m 1 , flar sa eat sto s per qr. over so prices c asking for immediate reparation. (Hear.) I think it their services t tieing e war. high compliment to the services of the •militia during the alterations ever contemplated in the staff? He would be To-day we had a fair supply of wheat, for whet • ho w •to her Majesty's Government. On the contrary they I weed not, lam sure, dwell on the misfortunes that le 11 th t hould take an o ortunity-I do M PEEL said, in r 1 t t question asked him late war, he said that the had now been treated b the e would awe.a we a .pp t . r g ep y o the firs , . y y b led also to know what education would in future be ro- d . they consider his conduct to have been such that they - say would arise --for they are obvious eo every one-should not meahou this evening, but before this ques ion is set- that tno Government did not recognise anY injustice ,to Government in a most contemptuous manner. Ta.ke the quired for the staff? gr. earer. NO' not usefully, in regard to the maintenance of amicable re e'n' those disaereemente lead to any serious quarrel, still more to actual nostilities besween this country and the United tled--to s come to seine agreement on this point. (Hear.) officers dying in the service on account of the loss of their case of the Lancashire artillery corps. After volunteering er n PEEL said he had already stated what the cond . Wheat. 1 Barley. I Oats. 00 Od day. Oats and barley in small supply, and is te -45 '..- • lations between the two countries, recognise him an I thinlcehir, it would be well if England would recoguise home, they were to be disbanded on the 27th. The Foreign Col. GREVILLE complained, not tbat the militia force commissions. Those commiesions becoming vacant and to serve in the Crimea, and renderingimportant services at tions would in future be for the staff. 1. First longer ae ()ter minister, and they have accerding'ydeclared 9 States. The miseries that would RAW trom such hostili ties and the evils to both nations are incalculable. that the United States has a policy as well as all the great being disposed of without purchase. to the regiment in Second • that they can no longer carry on businees with him. Thev are such as I should hope no ms.n in this country countries of Europe ; and that the United States has a consequence, was for tho general benefit of the a rmy_ Legion, howeve r , were t rea t e d w ith won d er f u l kindness. wall treated ill, but that the foreign corps had been treated Third ....... - They have accompanied this communication with various or in America could contemplate without a feeling of the right to have that policy. I observe, sir, that the Ameri- The compensation warrants were, no doubt, productive o f There was a mutiny the other day amongst them. Were too well. A distinction had been drawn between the two - • •iand positive-declarations of a wish on their part to nen- utmost repugnance ands fear at entering into birch a eau Minister in this country leas said that he thoughit2:.(ti hardship in individual cases ; that could. not be helped, they punished ? Not at all. They were told they should which was not fair. The remuneration to the army chap- COAL MARKET.-JuNo 16. tione on terms of amity with us. The United States cour an With re eard to the power of the two nations, no right to say that the President of the United Stte e s and atl the cases which hsd been produced belonged to have a year's pay and be sent home. And while they were bins was extremely inadequate; in one instance a chap- fa adopted the Munro doctriue as the foundation of . rut circumstances which took them out of the usual category. sending the militiamen b a ck t o th e i r h oneee immediately, lade had received 9/. ss. for eight months' service. tie Prloes of Coal per ton at the close of the 11•210 . Government, in regard to a second question which has doubt both would be very oewerful in such a Case ; but it a • . , , tem. Now, sir, the Monro doctrine-and I say it wit. It was quite understood that no compensation warrant was without any regard to the labour wants of those districts, should be glad of some explanati, et on thet head. 5. d. 5. " - been for a long' time under discu.ssion between them and • • is obvious that the cause of humanity, tne cause or peace- of the - United ,eitates-is _ . .. , , , n great respect for the Government . . . due to those who had paid no money on account of their with only 14s. in their pockets, the Ger ma n Legion were After some remarks from Col. DUNNE and an inaudible Holywell .._ . .....16 6 the Governinent of this country, have proved their wil- . 0 I ful commerce, and the cause ot civilisation wouid suner not one adapted to the times in which we live, wheu the commission Tue mope aid t th • ' broueht uto Aldershott and installed there while accom . . . . . y p o a widest sof offi- e . P . , , explanation from Mr. PEEL, the vote was agreed to. New Tanfield - l5 0 Belmont .. ................. ~,, 0 lingness to enter into direct c immunication with her f rom such a coerse. (Hear.) tis equa y c ear a a I • 11 1 th t 11 • - • • increased means of communication between tins country cors was so paid, not only under the compens a ti o n war. modation which had never been thoueht of for the militia The next vote was fo th e . . . r e sum of 10/., in addition to one Tanfield Moor l4 0 eraddyll .................. •, lef, e Majesty's Government upon some of those points of dif- o v e r the continent of Europe every man loving libertY, a.nd America bring u 3 together as one of the great falmliis rant, but also under the p ens i on - •1 I f h A • warrant, the last of was provic (3( or t am. gain, the Italian Legion, whtch million already voted for the disembodied militia West Pelton l5 0 Russell's Hatton .......... 9 • ference which exist ; and with regard to other points of ever man who wishes to see freedom prevail, would de- ot the earth. That is a system of government which lays y which was RO much the More liberal that out of fort 3' had also committed a number of outr ages at Malta, were also Col, DUNNE cons '•n • • • plai. ed that the gratuittes• to which wylam 16 6 South Hatton ............. .t 6 0 - difference they h ave d ec l are d th e i r op i n i on th a t arbitra- Wore such a contest between those two great states. down that the relations between the two countries, Ame- widows'only three had accepted money under the compen- to go back kerne with a year's pay. It was at first actually the staff of tho militia were entitled were withheld and ' et e etheme eee Hough Hall ................ •!,, a tion might be resorted to with a vie* to the attainment • • 11 1 Ih . ktht ll th h rice and England, being interru Oed, they should be ter (Hear.) It is equa y c ear, tin , a a ose w o . sation warrant. The gallant member had alluded to the intended only to allow the militia subalterns three months that the men were not allowed their ex ' - -----' - penses home. The Plummer ...tr, 0 of an amicable result. (Hear.) Now, sir, Ido not wish wish for the continuance of oppression in all those coun- mtnated-diplomatically I, of course, mean. But in mak' speech ot e, noble lord in another place, who had stated PaY, but then there was a little clamour in that house, and men in consequence complaiued bitterly, and were turned Wharncli tie l5 9 Hartlepool ................ ...le 0 ing that observation, I think it would he wise in England that where the family of a deceased officer were entitled the allowance was raised to six months. Then there was out into the country without decent clothing. This WaS a Wallowed, ke• 4 . tO enter into either one or the other of these questions. Eden Main l6 9 Kelloe. ..................... 1, (Hear, hear.) With regard to one, namely, the recruit- tries where oppression prevails would rejoice at Eng land and the United States being at war. (Hear, and especially not to look h with the extreme jealousy she has to compensation, they forfeited all claim to Pensions. that monstrous order which was issued by the general most impolitic way of treating theforces. Tis was the rule ; and in the interpretation of that rule commanding in the Ciiinea, directing the officers to get rid Mr. PEEL explained that there had been a certain sum Ships at market._ 30 1 Sold ing question, an hon. gentleman has given notics of his cheers.) But, sir, the feelines to which I have given hitherto evinced at t e least ex . pausion of eliat commit- b . •ty beyond the boundaries evhich were originally fixed. the honourable entleman had I' Ilen • t g . a in o error with re- of their horses in a.ny way they could Was it likely he set a art for ratuities to the nal . • p g i itra, quarterrnasters. • intention to bring that subject before the house on utterance must animate every one having a heart. I S u ir, Ido hold that our laying it doe n that we are to view • ard to his noble friend's speech. Higher rates of ension 1 h • • • won d ave done this without orders ? It was clear that Sir J Y. BULLER said that fro the en speech of the SSA BORNE MA ILS. Thursday next. If he should do so, and that the house (Hear, hear ) My noble friend (Lord Palmerston) nt an what is called the " aggressive spirit of the United States" g were iven to widows f officere killed i ct,*(l ) th n there was a German influence at work which ou ht to be nobl h ' ird the milhia had d exrre t t e e rurteen days' pay, end twi °l • think proper to entertain it, any hon. member-and I early part of the session, gave expression to sentiments with such extreme jealousy, is not sound policy oa the to thje who died of d's:a This - th n e a dis i ti: t• a got rid of• . g had been disembo l died i sfaction •• General P i . , among the rest-may then declare his opinion on that on this subject which did him the highest honour ; part of this country. (Hear.) I think that the treaty which whether it was a fair one . or se not. To wa i s ve the samecarano: Mr. PEEL defended the War-office. He stated that the The regiment under his c n o a mm s a a nd l i .t 3 ad gre ai a t t ic d u i l ssa l ti flt this. (N eiignitles that the mails eI,C4, sent mom the ight-and Id by the morning-plespatch.) - question. (Hear.) With regard to the second ques- and I cannot but think that in dealing.; with these im- Lord Ashburton concluded was one of the wiseet diplomatic of pensions to the two classes it Luld be necessary manner in whi c h th e G overnmen t b a d t rea t e d th e German to his great disappointment, as he had P expecte a el(o l e rave re: ' y the h iv ~,, tion-that relating to Central America-the real ques portant questions everything consistent with the inte- acts that have occurred iii modern times, at least in this cen- lo alter the pension warrants. It roust be allowed that Legion was laid down and stipulated for in the conventions organised the corps under more favourable circumstances hie , wn.n male e; From whit d o in tury ; that it was the indication of a sound policy ; that those wh3n au officer died of disease it was possible that h e under which they were recruited. It was the intention hereafter. commozsi. I.n General Post. Pori ..._ i ~,' . . tion is,- whether any negotiation is to be mitered into or r sts ofsociet generall consietent with the dienity of who opposed that treaty were the supporters of a policy might have died owing to his discharge of ' his duty, and of the Government to adhere to these conditions. With Mr. PEEL said that he could not then give an answer as Office, London.* Dispatch.. • 2 . 1„.......... continued on the subject ?If such negotiation be e is co Y d ' Y' t '• h . ou ementa with broken off, it will, no doubt, be necessary to bring the t o h the unt t eec, l an t 7snastr oe w. he r r ; I nf . a e g , t j 's Govern- which is suppose dby the government of the Uuited States not nom his own fault. When the officer died in the die- respect to the disemboditneut of the militia the Govern- to the quartermasters. As to the fourteen days' pay, he - r ------ 1 ... w eellifj Frith, .. . Livereoe -question before the house, and I should expect some meti, i n n a o i r o de s r • t s o v ' reserve eac:between these two great to be one _liestile t eo ehe •egitima o t n e de a vedo e preefet 1 th t tr e power, and timer le tne . suppositt th tth U hi charge of his duty, he thought, as regarded compensation, ne °I. that if it was given to an officer (lying in the field, ac- were obi meet had uo choice, because by act of Parliament they had no doubt it would be granted in the case alluded to by trnerlea(bel : ll=, l , ' ye " iged to disband them immediately on the termi- the hon. member. thl ,, e u Z e P il Y „ , .. ~N Every Tuesday - . Liverpool ••• member to do tio ; butit the negotiation is to be continued • P P •I - 1 dd h 'f th nations. (Gheers.) And, sir, wit a ,tat i a noble lord opposite is animated by that spirit which excites 1 . s• tth • fth h b 't ht b th con in e o e views o e on. mem er, i oug y a . nation of the war. With respect to the saving of four mfl- Sir J. FERGUSON 1 • comp armed of the destitute state in eeiserica (by . 17 . ..Statei • pothlf - I think it most desirable Lir the public service that no G d• - • d t t ito otietions on hfl' e h•ch h i ized un th h t ut tie overnment are ispose oener n neg . t e min e w i a. ee . .po eeais me ques . u lions which had been effected in this vo • e made • seine reasoning to be given to officers dying of disease. . te lt had bOn WhiCh the disembodied militia were turned out in Scotl a nd. p a ee e tt .........-1 , ••••••.. 4Outhal3ll,oo - 0 1 . . 'further discussion should take place till her Ma' ' jesty s those eubjecte Ido hope that from the moment a decla. as a insans of expressing their Sense of jealousy and dis- W:th reg ird to the warrant of October 1851 its object in the following manner. In the early part of the year the They were thrown on the co try b f tl h e w er:3 h ta r i e n e rves t be- h. n p s o t o rlT.a . . !s:i . t! .. 1 . ...1v .. e1 5 -4th 4th and 19th .... Liverpool • • ' ewe 2 - Government shall have given us information as to the re- ration to that ' effect is made to this house, the hones trust. (Hear.) Sir, I mention that, not with any intention was to enable the Government to introduc'e into' the lists of committee voted the whole number of men-246,716-then gun, and when there was no w u o n rk to ••••••• - . Dover ...« • • . . sults of that negotiation. But, sir, there are two very imitating its own example-and it could have no better of intro hieing controversial questions on this occasion- the army a number of comparatively young general offi- asked for by the Government. It was not, however, De- Sir J. Y. BULLER felt it necessary to press his ques- -htt° (via aisnellies) 1 ' r e 10 Into (vla Cape of Goo? "' a ri d%°. • important questions which stand quite independently of _of forbearance durino la-t year, will abstain during the (oh, oh, freer Ministerialists, and a laugh) -but beceuse 1 cers, and te infuse more young blood into the lieutenant- cessary to ha.ve so large a force now, but at the same time tion as to the quartertuasters, as some young men were .-. anything pertaining to the discussion of the merits of want to impress upon the house my couviction, at least, that colonels; Witgout the power so conferred on the Govern- there would heve been some inconvenience in reducing the waiting for the decision of the Government. Ho wished R a ll° r i e r ) vi e . s 7Us . t) . ....l l . 5 5 4 of t e h . ;:n . ........... PlYnlo"th **1 6 4 4 ,9t11 „, ending ne otiations from any expression of feeling t hat . the two great subjects to which I have referred, and on P *ght • d g t • the United States to believe in uce a,ny par yln . . . that is a feeling which pervades tha United states, and ment, it would have been impossible to ' have given the number of men. Probably it might have been necessary to to know, also, respecting the permanent staff, what part of tsexandria..........S 10th & 26th of P o Dover •• •• '' , * - 4 -- g l lO , - that if it is to be always inepiessed upon Englend that iatroduce the bill to avoid the Mutiny Act. He anticipated that was to be retained ? Fle wished, in fact, to know what A.1exandria........,,m 4..-. & 'loth of we,. 3outhainpm: ~,,, , . • those two questions I think the House of Commons ml- commend of the brigades in the way in which they had hat we were not unanimous on tue question of peace. she is to look upon every expansion of the United States as been given during the late war. The hon. member coin. th it by the end of the autumn the whole of the foreign to do with his own regiment ? daharnas ..„ ,„ „ __ad 17th of the avant' SouthahlPl" . s j ":" . 1 - . ought to receive information. (Hear.) The first in (Hear 1 And if a • • t last everything in the way (A , t contrary to her interests and hostile to her ower • plamed that without this warrant the brevet lieutenant- 3olgtum ... ......N DallY• ••• • • ...... Dover .- s• • eh ie et eorpe e e va, ( l , id cease to be in the pay of the Government. Tak- air. PEEL said that the last question had better be put Br il ."• •• „Am 9th of the month_ Southanseita y en , ii • whether, the American Go-vernment having desired 31;. • • 'bi *ear• t . ion I 1 d us f rther and further dn ac hall b l• hiah P hase' 1 arnica .e ne,o tat on yea s ti . . .. r.icl influence, we s e pursing apo icy w. • , s h‘ . s colonels woald have been in a better position than they 'ng - 1, Y reign Legion, the Land Transport Corps, the West into writing before he answered it. Wh a t h a d b een d one eu sz enes h;;;::::: . hie esn es •he month_ Southatnnt" "; : '.rtii' ~ Crampton to cea4e his relations with the United States, away from peece, let us show that this couetry would it will not prevent that expansion on the part of the United DOR were- Indian and Colonial corps together he anticipated that as to the qoartermast s tie' es was is. Where those officers had Cape of Good Hope „N Uncertain it ia the intention of h ' • ' . er Majesty s Government, upon be as united in war anal in resisting anything States, will involve this countly in struggles of tho most C.donel NORTH said that this was not his meanie.. there would be a reduction of 48,00") men on those origi- already held commissions they were to ba retained but not Cape of Good Hope N .. 4 . 01 16°. that mature deliber I. * asien which they have now been able inconsistent with the dignity of Great Britain. disastrous character. (Hear.) I recollest vrell the extreme He had said that the old lieutenant-colonels were passel'. natty voted. There wauld boa reduction of about 300,000/. where the office was morel held tempo hy b ' übal- Cape de Verds .......N 4.. A . .4.. mono, Southall/Pa- -4 1 8,i9 to give to the subject, to desire that Mr. Dallas should (Hear, hear.) I believe that will be the universal jealousy which prevailed in this houie a few years ago in over in consequence of the warrant, and the young men in respect of these troops. Then he came to the regular terns acting only for the ti Y me as quarteL ar a i ster. 4 8 Ceylon (see India) lOth and 26th i 0 likewise withdraw, and thus put an end for a time to feelin I thin l - we qr ow titled to an exelanation c msequence of the conquest of California by the United put o , er t heir heads. army. The house originally voted 154,140 infantry. The The next vote was a sum of 10/eto b td i addi e gran e, n - Ceylon ..............N 4th aid 20th . .e u ee . Channel Isles ........N 5i..., 4 6,..A.rtic4 SOUthAMP , O _ Ir fent 0 '.- States. I remember that that was an event which was Mr- PEEL s•ii Ihe was glad of the admission that the Government hail determined to reduce this force to a peace tion to the sum of one million already voted, for the army ; h ue._ ...., ........ es 54%17th nf molly Southanni. ' a any diploniatic communication between the two coun- on tOs • sub•ect. (Hem.) I wait anxiously to hear what 4 01 i'l9 tries. (Hear.) The 2ndquestion is-whether that course ny noble f j e d has t ' y I feel the , • t res . rosibi- looked forward to with great 'ear, and from which the warrant wae at least beneficial to yoeng men. With re- establishment. They had, in the first instance, endeavoured works corps. China .... .. 4th and 20th - 0 ie pursued or not-pendirtie any negotiations res i Petrt-ng t l • t that de r' s o n lvt, () sa he Gove en t,.' r al I ts P u7set dhet most injurious results were anticipated. But I would ask gard to the hardship to old officers, they would see the so to arrange the battalions as to enable th e m t o be ex. Cal. DUNNE inquired if the army works corps was to Constantinople ......N 10th and 26th Doar_"*., i O6 ' the house how far tee balance of puwer hes been injured ,iifficulty in a hich the Governnient was placed, in conse- panded or contracted according to the exigencies of the be put under the direction of the officers of engineers like Censtantinople ........ 4th & 20th of mon ta.".77:::. r v iii! . Central America, and until those negot tatione are brouge t t i ll( ) ; i , su ma bessUllp a O l tl a t s will be rll ri llA i) , I conducive to time.. In th t e late war ei •to some conclusion, what is the intention of the Govern- the int:re:43%f thie . country but such n Is will be the isy the conquest of Califoi f t h t.) , tl i ie e 1 1 3 1 0 z:t er St7tneos, quen es of the questions and counter-questions on this ght out of the 10 companies of which sappers and miners as a regular military organisation ? rit. t o s E co u r r n op d r a ;g & N Twice daily - le rivicoo r head. Here was the hon. member complaining of the e, r , egin l iet t e ., w:s t T i .raposed I v i vere originally sent abroad, leav- Mr. PEEL said tlat the force was about to be disbanded Fa e .... „„ .. M& li Twice daily...- Dover .... ee l Sh l " (Hear.) , Au t d2 d w is o ,A uld as!c f A s i t er, a w a l la t t has cont7ribute Y d ment with respect to means to be adopted to prevent anY means of maintainin for a 1(41 riod to come the rola- event since . 'very merie• effect of the appointment of supernumerary officers, while i i n os on e n w t o ome. T ese at home were found uttetly in a very ehort time. There were only 1,100 at present Gibraltar .......... hl 4,7,17,20,27 gm. Soutliampte es . collision between the ships and forces of her Majesty and ti o „ s o t a • et g ' g n i t 'e r and the reat Were - - may besween this cou y g more to the wealth, and by contribu 0 'ine to the wealth ou the other hand the noble lord below him (Loid Nees) n ufficie to keep up the strength of the service corn- under duty. Greece (see India) • lid I ' - the shins and forces of the United Statea ? Sir. to these ern R epu bli c . N ew ques ti ons Isla y a r i se . Alth o nel a more contributed to the power, of this country than the waR desirous th a t the brevet r a nk i n the Cri • Panies; and the number of companies in a reeiment wer •Cat. L. VERNON • h e e p . wis ed. to know when the men were areytown ..........M 2nd & 17th of mon Southafolm'i aff , two queetions Intrall shortly apply myself. With regard A erwar s raise( rs o ,an u tunately to 16. the - • . h b d d l i ,' d 1 tf h •h t • f CI- If •b th iti hll b 4 le* mea •ft d • lfi tt 12 d 1 • question of the nog -west oun ary an ot er eve opmen ota me reesures o a i ornis. y e c - sou ama e permanent, w ich would have the Out of t• be disbanded and what was to be the rtit t the gau y o Elawburgh ..........N Daily London ...'.O C P O OO to the first, it appears to me that her Majesty's Govern- • b h t • f s e • zone of the United Staten? (Hear.) . I say this, because effect of adding to the supernumeraries, and re- the 83 regiments of infantry we had now 50 who had 16 men and officers'? aavarmah ...... ...et 2nd of the wona eouthampters t t en s e 0 questions may e set at rest, ot er su rjects o iscussion !Tolland ............ld Daily.. ...... Ment may have means Of judging which neither I nor niight be ut forward by persons anxious to stir u had I feel that as we proceed with this question, we shall tard the promotion Of younger colonels. The noble companies. It was the intention of the Government to Mr. PEEL said that the gratuities to the ould be M 17tn of the month Southampton ...If any other member of this house are in possession of ; blood bet Ween two natione, whose interest it isPmore be obliged to adopt precise and definite opinions upon the lord need not apprehend the same difficulties in re- uaake all the reeiments consist of 12 companies, or 1,000 two months' pay. As to the offieers, the r i r l e w enga , ved t a n ° ci ' la th (v n i:Sc . ru . iiiiim . ** t * .jes p 4th ti 20th of rowit . eiymouth •• 11 " - e abject ; and I say this, also, bscause I feel pereuaded that gard. of promotion at the end of the war in the East, rank and file. Aft present the regiments in the Crimea were for two years certain. They hadeserved mi r e y:ar, and c a on- India (via Marseilles)ll 9th&26th of month Dover .... • that, besideS the ostensible despatches, th e y may have than that of any other two ' nations on the earth to culti. if sounder views upon the 5 abject ead ereveiled horMajesty'd which occurred a.t the end of the last, in consequence of on a war footing of 2,000. The total reduction to which sequently were entitled to ono year's gratuity. tonian hees (see India) 10 1k 24th . grounds upon which their judgment has been formed, vete friendl relatione, We have a reat em ire ; time Ireland ........111 6 N Twice datir Holyhead ... • Government might not nave felt themselves justified in the care which had . been exercised in the selection of offi- this would lead if carried out immediately, would leave After a few words from Sir J. PAXTON, th e vo t e was and concerning which they can give intelligence to the United Stst Y ee has also a great ern iro g ; and be& have it pursuing a course witlo iegard to the enlistareet question eers for active serv:e .. The Government would take care only 9h,000 men. It was not proposed, however, to carry agreed to. Li5ben.............. rid 2d of n o .... house which hon. members are not at present in posses- • - h • • d - h• P • d • • • Madeira M gth of the montt Southampton 6, • within t en. pow er to o great t ings in a vancing mei- which, whatever may ba the immediate results, 12. s cer- that these officers, as well as those employed in the Ter- out this inteetion immediately, .bat to leave a margin of The Chairman then reported progress, and obtained Wad - .......... • ' • ' Ora ............N 230 of month nion of ; but it certainl h ' . y appears to me tat the conclusion lisetion and promoting the happ . • mess of the human race. tainly not terminated in a manner very flattering to the kish contingent and all the irregular services, should re- 10,000 or 14,000 men in the present vote. The total reduc- leave to sit again. 15. . Weita (see India) 4 91 formed by her M ejsety's , . Government on the subject (Hear, arid leui cheers.) honour of this country, or grateful, I Antal,' think, to the tain the same rank which they might have been expected tiun in the number of infantry would, however be 50 000 .ANNUITIES REDEMPTION BILL. Malta ...............314, 10,20, and 26 Dover ...,;0•• , - should be a deliberate one. If they have any reason to - • • fl• f b . t fth Q Th ar -th tw t t • 1 • men, and taking the cost at 30/. h ' '' • ee ings o any su jec o e ueen. ese e e 0 o a Lain um er any circumstances, a man, tat would give a This bill was read a third time and passed. Mauritius (see India) 31 Lord PALMERSTON then rose atrial loud cheers fol.- 4. think that the removal - a Mr. Crampton is a wanton . .. . . ' points to which tne noble lord who introduced this ques- Mr. HEADLAJI said that the hon. gentleman used a saving of one and a half million. What was proposed to be TRANSFER OF WORKS IRELAND) BILL. Si militias ........ w2O .tt of the month lowed bv a solemn silence and sa d -Sir it is merfectl Kende° ~..,,, .• •• •• ... if 20 of the mono' •• sonthametec ....,;•1 and determined insult an the part of the Government of - ' -I, I 5 ' lion to-ni,eht has particuls.rly referred: I look Upon all set of technical arguments to get out of the promises dis- done in future was to have about 40 regiments in infantry, This bill was read a thi • ( rd time and passed. natural that in the present state of matters between this that has happened with regard to the enlistment question tinctly made by the noble lord at the head of the Adminis- the eight service companies of which would be formed into . Na.aes . ...........ei Da11y....... Dover .., „. OW • the United States, her Majeety'e Government can adopt SUPPLY. - Raw Grenada ......V 2d & 17thof month SouthamploF • • country and the United Statea this house should expect as indicative of a feeling of distrust which prevail. in the tration. He (Mr. Headlam) had brought forward a naotion divisions and brigades with a proper divisioeal and brigade Mr no other course than resent that in,ult by break- FITZROY brought up the report of supply on Fri- New Zea1and.......... T. ii:e a month • ing off communication with the IVEnister of the United from her Majesty's Government at the earliest possible United S . tates,.because they suppose that the policy of this last session to the effect that an officer dying in the service staff. Then the depot companies would not be scatte d .• re day night. Pa,mlotates ...... •• Daily-. •••• •• •••• Dover .....„ 4 w 44111 country ls hostile to the legitimate development of their should he put in the same position as if he had sold out, about the country singly, but the depots of three Peensula ..... et • States in this Country. 'Mut if they arrive at no such con. moment an explanation of the condition in which our ma- THE iouthamen r - 1 Sir • • is that all that the United Sin e . prser.. , usy opinion . . . t s The noble lord had on that occasion made a distiuct pro- regiments would be grouped together. The reduc SUSPENSION BRIDGE IN ST. JAMES'S- Psru . ..... chision-if there be no circumstancee that lead them te terial reletions are. (Hear, hear.) I cannot, therefore, he .............te VI & 27th of mel , leuthamptcl. , te ve fairly a light to expect they can obtain without in- mi se th• t e all officers during their lifetime should have the tion in the Guards, cavalry, and artillery would amount PARK. P.rt Natal ....en-is ay private ship Various co* „,. A . f in that conclusion-then I should say that not only former in any deeree surprised that my noble friend, whose ce h • t • • . . ' psi jury o this country and witLe it injury to Europe, aud option of bein rut in the oshion of tak'n there.. 1 t g I p i i g e u a 1011 to about half a milli, en. It was ro osed t p p o reduce the On the vote of 3,500/. for the suspension -bridge in St. 3 cilY .............N Eve.) , Saturday Dover ... • ' 1- __, .0. , ' example., but tire present peculiar circumstances of this er e iss (mean on la iis e mistress oa s a eernan o recoginee eneces- pensions. tion in this house so well entitles him tle h tl 't•t• th b • f tt - t •- th • ' It should he retnembered that officers were G I 7 000 • uan sto , . With respeet to the cavalr re . y eeiments, Jauaes's-park. Tercany .... .. .. ....h Ditto•• ........•• Dever ..•••• , a do.' easP, make it deeirable that they shoeld accede to the city of that increase of their power, and at the sante time stimulated to exertion b the ct f eett•ne thei it was intended to kee I Lord ELCHO feared he would not be able o i t Widuc . e her Venezneiii .......... hi 2d & 17th ofrnout touthampton , a ' • occasions of this kind, should hav availed hi s lf Of the an i t ro a s s pe the o e i , r pro- . . _ t. . p a arger number of men than Van Dtemen's Lend (se. a invitation of the Government of the United States, and e • m e show them that they will most fairly accomplish tha des• motion without purchas y e, country was belie- norees, for he experience of the war had shown that it . • Majesty's Government to rescind the vote but still he kustralla) present opportunity to requite from her Majesty's Govern- • , thought it his duty to protest a ainst th • •fi f h 1+ '••'' •• ..1 4th °f m°l ' . •• •• twelDl t° - tat:Tinto negotiations on any points of difference, which, - - . - - . tiny to Which the noble lord the memner for London re- fited thereby, it was fair that the country s h ou ld b ear th e wes proper to have more men than ho b• 1 • rses, wene as tne g a seen ce o t e Kre rndies . .. ~, . i,.. ~.., • 3onthaluP- - - ion oa VI s matter Ffear 1 Indee 1 sir ment au ee:planat .1 . beauty of the park. It was now proposed to erect a foot , tle though not serious at the present time, may lead to most ( o t , , •ferred if they will recognise those principled of iuterns- sraall expense entailed by compensation on account of the le eat exPense of a cavalry regiment consisted, not in th e :setieus re,•ults. With respect to Other examples, there are if no member had expressed a wish for information on the tional law which we have always upheld, and, instead of commiseion, which then passed without purchase from the PaY of the men but in the keep of the hor s e s , thi s pl an of bridge across the ornamental water in St. J a mes's-park, whenany of these dates fall on a Sunday, the radlie 4 ,' I ti ., - i , l a many, I think, on this subject-and with respect to the subject, it would still have been the duty of her Majesty's eaunting that they will found their greatness upon what families ef those who had purchased them. The way in reducing the horses in a greater proportion than the men, He thought the Goveenment should call in competent per- seatched on the following day. with the exception of the i°,• o l . l '• sts , re celled the Mouro doctrine which is a doctrine of isola- which the noble lord redee , . . med his promise was by append- would unite the greatest economy with the greatest effich sons to re ort n on th s ire p . p i I posed alteration. There was a • , . t etatharnpton) and the Malta both . of which will be dem) very Government of the United State , e too - in which both Government not to allow a. day to pass without putting the ' gentleman in that house (Sir J Paxto )hhl 1 ' 1 tp. seeding day tion withdraw that retension b defeerine to the üblic in to the com ensation a decl• • , P y . 0 p g . p aration most humiliating, ency. He could not exactly state the future organisation b ' nwo re au ou France and Ggeat Britaiinfound that Ministers whom they house in possession of their intentions on the subjects to 1 ter of Europe, and allow that destiny to be regulated by and which made the regulation an utter mockery The of the cavalry, because the Government h 1 t t d at no ye ma e t 3 grounds of the Cryetal Palace with great effect, and he . had appointed were not acceptable to that power. There which the questions of my noble friend rela.te. (Hear.) Sir, the same high principles of policy which all the European relatives were obliged todeclare that th h d - * ti their minds wh th th ' • ey ano minims of P . .e ee e cavalry regimen le would' in (Lord Elcho) would be very much uided b I•tth t h y w i..a a oe. LOCAL SHARE MARlgr s ' - .ie the well-knoan case, in 1792, of M. Genet-the Mieie- it is unnecess• f t • 1 ' •t• he). 1 , lf . l - t 1 t tf h' 4ry or me to en er into an exp anation as to communi-les teas -ave a grea. po i-ICa UR etn laYe supper excep rom t e income of the deceased offieer. fu ure consist of six or eight twos se, But it was probable member might say upon the g. - questron of the brid , re. Agarn ---..a...-.- . ter s.eut to the United States by the Republican Govern- the tenour of those cotercunicetions which a few &es hithorty recognised. This mode of redeeming the promise of the noble lord was that in future there would be 400 men and 30J horses i he proteseed againet intrusting money to the" Board of LIVERPOOL, JUNE 16. i d•l' n Works without se Inent pf France, who not only fitted cut privateers, but a perfect mockery. each cavalry regiment. The men not mounted would of eing the plans they intended to adopt. ST ito•o we received from the United States minister in this COMMIeSION3 OF DECEASED OFFICERS. nax EXCIIANGE.-The market has been evil 'd OP : had theinprizes hroughtinto New York, and thus violated e ° t. b h 't• h b . ounsry, ecause t osecommunica ions ave een already Mr GROGAN then moved, " That the house do resolve Cyl. KNOX said that, to give opportunities' to those course be trained so that they mi silt ride any horses whiih If the President of the Board of Works had been a dicta- and prices must be note • 'tile °6l ter and there had been no H d a shade lower with li eto i s who had already spoken on this question, he should move might be found when they were required to go upon active ` ' ouse of Commons, and no Midlands, 794 4- Sheffields, 24-DAC() 34 Per ° e n' P. the neutrality of the United States. 31. Genet, likewise, presented to the American Senate, and have been alread itself % into a committee to consider of an humble address to a technical amendment to the motion to the effect that service. The artillery it was proposed to reauce to 21,090 press, that park would have been cut up by broad roads, a c. - Lancashire and Yorkshire, 931 i-SOuth Etuden: ed in a most offensive and improper tnanner, endeavoured punli s h e d i n th e news p a p rs o f thi s country, and every ber y l. he' M: st • e that sh will bo • 1 leed to t is i min t , ( , ) he , e . gracious y p rya . :: The hosise de resolve itself into such ' committee to-mer- men, the present force being 23,517 men ; and while the pxf . that the right hon. gentleman (Sir B. Hall) had no -East Lancashire, Pref 1-sth shares 5i Lule"'lsfi to raise seditious attempts against the government of member is in full posse:sion of their contents as aro her direct I. L e ltei r el inade in the rules of the military t oin reference to the ar - a 1 --... ~, os-- fully agreed w• row." He o t ith the hon. member who had greater part would be employed in garrison duty, it was p ks. (Laughter.) It was in constit., 8e d.-North Easteru, Berwick, 2tY4 - • A i sfeli General Washington. The general, who was th en p re Majesty's Ministers. To lay them on the table of the house 801 - Vieo awl in the warrant of March, .1856, to the effect order that the •ht just sat dwn as o the effect of the declaration. The proposed to keep up a force of field battery, for which ig no . t have improper structures that Counties, 10i-Great Western of Canada, no° - sident of the United Statee t• 'th t 1 • d f ~ ac ing wile tins om or officially wo should accompany them by such answers as cn that the regulation value of commissions of officers in the Under-Secretary for War had told the th t t, f 4 000 or 5 000 horses would be r •d t ma, ou o , , equire obe maintained. he opposed thie v m ote until the had an o ortunit of see- 2 , full consideration and due deliberation-which such he- army who shall have (Hee of cholera or fever in active sea.. f e i • 1 1 th • ing the plans. More or less y PP y i P. which he- was mo remarkable, and with a calmness and rsy wu ows, on y ree had applied for compensation in- In that way wo hal accounted for 9, satins" of oue nail' e . 1 ion all our statues and üblic --_--- . portant letters require -we should have thought fit to vice during the late war may be paid to their representa- buildings were a disgrace to Us. Thera P • ferbearaece Which served . the beet interests of his coun- stead of pension. He himself could w ' • 1 hlf h • • ell believe this for am a a on t e infantry, and half a millton on the were, however, oue i 1 . Well sir, we have not et been able to ev . i es, and deemed part of their personal estate, end to or two bright pleasent places, and it was that one of those MANCHESTER, JUNE 16. . 0% 0 no lady would probably take advantage of the regulet • Oon, other breech of the SOI'ViC3, as well es 2 0,0001. on the try, declared Mons. Genet could no longer be permitted Ns:We .0 IZZ apsw ' and thLrefore we Ire not in ' a peen assurc: , ' her Majesty that this house wilt make good the places should not be destroyed that ho brought the metter STOOK EXCIIANOE.-The market has been sit„ted' to represent the French government at the United Sta' es. te 3.w t ur l ) those co ,e nTnui.• t . ' f th A ' hedged round as it was with such vexatious restrictions. Land Transport Corps.• There would bo a saving of 101) 001 S v ion . r u c i im sir e l a in in ergni (ar t a smile. He complained thet tho Government, having made The SPEAKER having read the motion and the amend- out of the 300,000/. voted for the Turkish Con tingenc ' The under consideraeion. (Cheers. regards prices, but .veny little business was trISTIV, Y. Midlands, 78,1 e-Leeds, 931 it e a-Dovers, 211 li-,eiclO but, at the same time, did not break off diplomatic mho ernmen ' t Y offieiall ' befonr I'ms . Y you ,b tr • y o purchase compulsory, that the tem' of the warrant were Sir J. PAXTON said he was unavoidably absent on Fri tions with France. (Hear.) A new mioister was sent answer the question of my noble friend as to the intention nrapnh. -And CI,. wi,i,-,,,,,..m1 nrnh,..,,...f dins, nffinAr.4 whese meat, field allowahces to officers and men would be r I el f _ _ _ et uce. rem a.......e.,,;.,,-. „..1..„ ...e___, IL. • • •.. . Great Western nf f1.”....-1. .3 ot....ne_ii- 901-- .R. 7 assaults on the inhabitants. The question is this, what course should our Government adopt under such a state of circumstances ? I have no doubt that they would think tt their duty to protect the British person and British property in any such case. I should not wonder if they were disposed to have such a force in the neigh bourhood as would enable them to perform th,t duty. However, whether they would think it their duty to in terfere at all in respect to Nicaragua I know not ; but I think it is a question upon which we ought to have some information. I say this because the reports on this sub ject are' conflicting. I saw in a newspaper to-day that ships of the United States were allowed to carry men, passengers, and even military stores into Greytown. And, sir, it seems to me that such a course woulit be consistent with the respect due to the flag of the United States. (Hear.) But I have likewise seen it stated in a telegraphic message that her Majesty's ship Euryalus is in the habit of interfering with the ships entering Greytown, and overhauling them before their arrival at port. Now, sir, I think that we should have some explanation from the Government on this matter, so that public anxiety should, as far as possible be not an end to. (Hear.) The two questions, then, which I have to a,le my noble friend are—first, whether it is the inten tions of her Majesty's Government, after the course taken by the Government of the United States with respect to Mr. Crampton, to pursue a similar course with regard to Mr. Dallas, and to break off all diplomatic communica tion between the two Governments ? The other ques tion is, whether, supposing that not to be the case, mea sures have been taken, after due deliberation, by her Majesty's Government, in order to prevent, as tar as possible, any collision between the ships and forces of her Majesty's Government and the ships and forces of the Government of the United States ? (Hear ) For my own part I feel that the commanders of the ships of the United States and the commanders of the ships of her Majesty's Government will receive such orders, and they will act so agreeably in concert that they will not allow those miserable states in Central America to bring those two great nations into hoetile collision. (Cheers:) Sir, I need not, I am sure, dwell on the misfortunes that would arise—for they are obvious to every one—should those disagreements lead to any serious quarrel, still more to actual hostilities between this country and the United States. The miseries that would flow from such hostili- I ties and the evils to both nations are incalculable. They are such as I should hope no men in this country or in America could contemplate without a feeling of the utmost repugnance and fear at entering into such a course. With regard to the power of the two nations, no doubt both would be very powerful in such a Case ; but it is obvious that the cause of humanity, the cause of peace ful commerce, and the cause of civilisation would suffer from such a course. (Hear.) It is equally clear that all over the continent of Europe every man loving liberty, every man who wishes to see freedom prevail, would de plore such a contest between those two great states. (Hear.) It is equally clear, I think, that all those who wish for the continuance of oppression in all those coun tries where oppression prevails would rejoice at Eng land and the United States being at war. (Hear, and cheers.) But, sir, the feelings to which I have given utterance must animate every one having a heart. (Hear, hear ) My noble friend (Lord Palaierston) at an early part of the session, gave expression to sentiments on this subject which did him the highest honour; and I cannot but think that in dealing with these im portant questions everything consistent with the inte rests ofsociety generally, consistent with the dignity of this country, and consistent with our engagements with other nations, will be done by her Majesty's Govern ment in order to preserve peace between these two great nations. (Gheers.) And, sir, I will add, that if the Government are disposed to enter into negotiations on those subjects, I do hope that from the moment a decla ration to that effect is made to this house, the house imitating its own example—and it could have no better —of forbearance during la,t year, will abstain during the pending negotiations from any expression of feeling t hat might induce any party in the United States to believe that we were not unanimous on the question of peace. (Hear, Lear.) And if at last everything in the way of amicable negotiation only leads us further and further laway from peace, let us show that this country would be as united in war and in resisting anything inconsistent with the dignity of Great Britain. (Hear, hear.) I believe that will be the universal feeling. I think we are now entitled to an explanation on this subject. (Hear.) I wait anxiously to hear what toy noble friend has to say. I feel the great responsibi lity that devolves upon the Government, and I trust that the issue may be such as will be not only conducive to the interests of this country, but such as will be the means of maintaining for a long period to come the rela tions of amity between this country and the great West ern Republic. New questions may arise. Although the question of the not th-west boundary and other questions may be set at rest, other subjects of discussion might be put forward by persons anxious to stir up bad blood between two nations, whose interest it is more than that of any other two nations on the earth to culti vate friendly relations, We have a great empire ; the United Ste tee has also a great empire ; and both have it within their power to do great things in advancing civi lisation and promoting the happiness of the human race. (Hear, and loud cheers.) Lord PALMERSTON' then rose anal...llmA cheers, fol-. lowed by a solemn silence, and .said —Sir, it is perfectly natural that in the present state of matters between this country and the United States this house should expect from her Majesty's Government at the earliest possible . moment an explanation of the condition in which our ma ) terial relations are. (Hear, hear.) I cannot, therefore, be ' in any degree surprised that my noble friend, whose posi tion in this house so well entitles him to be its organ on occasions of this kind, should have availed himself of the present opportunity to require from her Majesty's Govern ment au explanation oa this matter. (Hear.) Indeed, sir, if no member had expressed a wish for information on the subject, it would still have been the duty of her Majesty's Government not to allow a day to pass without putting the house in possession of their intentions on the subjects to which the questions of my noble friend relate. (Hear.) Sir, it is unnecessary for me to enter into an explanation as to the tenour of those communications which a few days ago we received from the United States minister in this country, because those communications have been already presented to the American Senate, and have been already puldished i , ) the newspapers of this country, and every hon. member is in full possession of their contents as aro her Majesty's Ministers. To lay them on the table of the bowie officially wo should accompany them by such answers as en full consideration and due deliberation—which such im portant letters require —we should have thought fit to write iu reply. Well, sir, we have not yet been able to draw up those answers, and therefore we are not in a posi tion to I,y those communications from the American Go vernment officially before you; but, sir, I am ready to answer the question of my noble friend as to the intention of her Majesty's Government with regard to the diplomatic relations between this country and the United States. (Cheers.) Now, sir, it is to be observed in the first place, that although the United States government have thought fit to intimate to Mr. Crampt in that they could not continue their relations with him, and that in conse quence he has left Washington, that intimation did not go the length of suspending diplomatic relations. On the con trary, it was accompanied by another despatch, offering to coetione diplomatic relations through the minister of Ame rica at this court. Her Majesty's Government, fully con si.leiing the various bearings of the matter, anti attending to those considerations which my noble friend has dwelt upon, have not deemed it their duty to advise her Majesty to suspend diplomatic intercourse with the American mi nieter at this court—(cheers)—and we are, therefore, pre pared to enter into communication with him upon those matters which are of material interest to those two gre countries. (Hear, and cheers.) Sir; I think the house will feel that I am best performing my duty by abstaining on the present occasion from entering into any discussion with reg , rd to the subjec of difference between this country at d the United States. But my noble friend his expressed a hope that the instructions which her Majesty's Govern-• merit has given to the naval forces which have recently been despatche 1 from this country to the coast of Mosquito ore not such as are likely to bring about any unnecessary disagreements between the American and the British na tions. Sir, I can assure my noble friend, and assure the house, that it is the anxious desire of her Majesty's Go vernment to avoid any occasion that might bring about a collision, and that the nature of the instructions which. have been given to the commander of the forces relate to the protection of British interests, the protection of Brie tish life, and the protection of British property; but that there is nothing iu those instructions which could tend to a collision between the American and British interests. (Hear, and loud cheers.) We certainly have thought it rrht, considering the uncertain—uncertain no doubt as they were at the time—position of our relations with that naval power—undoubtedly we did think it right that our forces on those seas should be placed in such a position as not to render us liable to any accidents or surprises. (Hear.) We thought it right to be ate ong, but being strong we shall not abuse our strength. (Hear, hear, and renewed cheers.) Into the question of Central America lam sure the house will not wish me to go at length. (Hear.) I con cur with my noble friend in those opinions which he so well expressed, and which I on a former occasion also ex pressed, that it would indeed be lamentable if those great countries, which have so many interests in common, could by any means be brought into hostility with each other. (Hear.) And with regard to the conduct of her Majesty's Government I think I may confidently say this—that if on the one hand this country was never in a position betee t r suited to carry on a war, if war were forced upon her, that strength and that very preparation, of which we may boast, do not at all interfere with the calmest moderation and the fullest deliberation on matters of such grave import. ance as bearing on the material relations between this country and any other—especially a country between which and our own there are so many causes of connection and so great a similarity of interests as exists between Great Britain and the United States. (Loud cheers ) Mr. DISRAELI (who rose amid loud cheering) said— c.nrroccasions of this. kind—occasions now of frequent oc the Uerne— rhieornsai those matters om e f r att o ht f ee when misunderstandings in our relations with rtsh utmost wsihtho ostehe w forbearance. l l utmost eoes t United Steles are under discussion, I am sure every t m h s e oird, p et r r.h o a p eti riety of treating spirit onnObalonliorwditwhho: has j ant addieeled as has touched very o the i diate canse which has —that occasioned the e retirement -il rom e" Washington of her Majesty' „ noble j ar a s lo t r h d e — o t lord—to v b e e r r n e ni ce e i n n e o t f l Minister to the United States. b S y ia ti f e o the United States is concerned, that could am noble gl a l d o r t not be looked at as a complete rupture of diplomatic relations between the two countries. But; sir, I could not help feeling that it was mydutyatthis mow eat to express this opinion, that although the Government of the United States had drawn a distinc tion between the conduct of Mr. Crampton and that of her Majesty's Government, I trust the House of Commons in that respect will not follow the example of the States. I was glad that the noble lord himself did not adopt and sanction by his authority that distinction. (Renewed cheers.) lam perfectly willing to accept the statement of Mr. Marcy that so far as her Majesty's Government is concerned, the Government of the United States is com pletely satisfied with the explanation which they have offered respecting the conduct, or assumed conduct, of Mr. Crampton and her Majesty's consuls with regard to recruit. .111 Maia liti4. - Tha 'Wit lion:baronet having Stated the traPitls whielt the application was made, The bill was agreed to. OUR RELATIONS WITH AMERICA. 'On the motion that the house go into committee of supply,. Lord J. RUSSELL rose and said—Sir, it appears to hie that we cannot properly, as the House of Commons, go into committee upon the last remaining military esti mates of the year without asking for some explanation from her Majesty's Government as to the position in' which we are placed in regard to the government of the United States of America. (Hear.) If there were negotiations going on at the present time the Govern ment would, no doubt, tightly say, that according to all former practice it would be inconvenient to the pub lic service before these negotiations were brought to a conclusion that any discussion should take place upon the matter. But the question now is, whether any negotiations whatever shall take place with the United States ? (Hear, hear.) The facts I conceive to be these. • Despatches have beef received by her Majesty's Govern ment, which have been laid before both houses of Par liament, in which it was stated, upon the authority of ou.r ambassador, that with respect to the question of recruitment in the United States the Ante. than goves ument have declared their assent to the ex• planation of her Majesty's Government; to the effect -that her Majesty's Government had no intention what ever to violate the law of the States, and that it was with regret they had taken any proceeding which amounted to 'violation of the law of the United States. So far then as regards this question between the two governments directly it appears to be at an end. But the government of the United States do not give the same credit to our ambassador, Mr. Crampton, as they are willing to give to her Majesty's Government. On the contrary they say they consider his conduct to have been such that they can not usefully, in regard to the maintenance of amicable re lations between the two countries, recognise him any longer as our minister, and they have accerding'ydeclared that they can no longer carry on business with him. They have accompanied this commueicatioa with various • • :and positive-declarations of a wish on their part to 0-nl - on terms of amity with us. The United States Government, in regard to a second question which has been for a long time under discussion between them and the Government of this country, have proved their wil lingness to enter into direct cnnnounication with her Majesty's Government upon some of those points of dif • ference which exist ; and with regard to other points of . difference they have declared their opinion that arbitra tion might be resorted to with a view to the attainment of an amicable result. (Hear.) Now, sir, Ido not wish to enter into either one or the other of these questions. (Hear, hear.) With regard to one, namely, the recruit ing question, an hon. gentleman has given notics of his intention to bring that subject before the house on Thursday next. If he should do so, and that the house • think proper to entertain it, any hon. member—and I among the rest—may then deeare his opinion on that question. (Hear.) With regard to the second ques tion—that relating to Central America—the real ques tion is,- whether any negotiation is to be entered into or continued on the subject ? If such negotiation be broken off, it will, no doubt, be necessary to bring the -question before the house, and I should expect some member to do so ; butit the negotiation is to be continued I think it most desirable Lir the public service that no further discussion should take place till her Majesty's Government shall have given us information as to the re sults of that negotiation. But, sir, there are two very important questions which stand quite independently of anything pertaining to the discussion of the merits of the two great subjects to which I have referred, and on those two questions I think the House of Commons • ought to receive information. (Hear.) The first is, whether, the American Government having desired Mr. Crampton to cease his relations with the United States, it is the intention of her Majesty's Government, upon that mature deliberation which they have now been able to give to the subject, to desire that Mr. Dallas should likewise withdraw, and thus put an end for a time to any diplomatic communication between the two coun tries. (Hear.) The2ndquestion is—whether that course is pursued or not—pending any negotiations respecting Central America, and until those negotiations are brougSt • to some conclusion, what is the intention of the Govern ment with respect to means to be adopted to prevent any collision between the ships and forces of her Majesty and the ships and forces of the United States ? Sir, to these two questions I.shall shortly apply myself. With regard to the first, it appears to me that her Majesty's Govern ment may have means Of judging which neither I nor any other member of this house are in possession of ; that, besides the ostensible despatches, they may have grounds upon which their judgment has been formed, and concerning which they can give intelligence to the house which hon. members are not at present in posses sion of ; but it certainly appears to me that the conclusion formed by her Maj-sty's Government on the subject should be a deliberate one. If they have any reason to think that the removal of Mr. Crampton is a wanton and determined insult on the part of the Government of the United States, her Majesty's Government can adopt no other course than resent that insult by break• ing off communication with the Minister of the United • States in this country'. "But if they arrive at no such con chtsion—if there be no circumstances that lead them to that conclusion—then I should say that not only former ' examples, but the present peculiar circumstances of this case, make it desirable that they should accede to the invitation of the-Government of the United States, and - eater into neeotiations on any points of difference, which, though not serious at the present time, may lead to most serious results. With respect to other examples, there are many, I think, on this subject—and with respect to the very Government of the United States, too- in which both France and Greet Britain found that Ministers whom they had appointed were not acceptable to that power. There • is the well-known case, in 1792, of M. Genet—the Minis ter sent to the United States by the Republican Govern ment pf France, who not only fitted cut privateers, but . had their ‘ prizes brought into New York, and thus violated the neutrality of the United States. 31. Genet, likewise, in a most offensive and improper manner, endeavoured to raise seditious attempts against the government of General Washington. The general, who was then Pre silent of the United States, acting with the wisdom for which he was so remarkable, and with a calmness and forbearance which served the best interests of his coun try, declared Mons. Genet could no longer he permitted to represent the French government at the United Sta' es. but, at the same time, did not break off diplomatic rela tions with France. (Hear.) A new minister was sent from France to the United States, and a minister who was acceptable to France from the government of the letter ; and thus - the diplomatic relations between the two governments were not interrupted. (Hear.) Well, then, in 1809, Mr. Jackson, the minister of Great Bri tain at Washington, became persnnally unacceptable to the President of the United Slate,, who informed him that he would hold no further communication with him • but Mr. Pinckney, the American minis : ter in London, • continued at his post, and there was no interruption of the diplomatic intercourse between the two countries. Then so late as 1850, there was the case of M. Poussin, the French minister at Washington, which, though it gave rise to a number of long diplomatic notes, did net disturb the diplomatic relations "between the two countries. (Hear, bear.) . These examples show that according to the usage of :states it does not follow as a matter of course that diplomatic relations should cease between this country and America because our ambassador has received his passports from the American Government (Hear, hear ) I come next, sir, to the question--the subject of nego tiation. That question is one of very considerable diffi• culty,'being involved by ancient obligations on the part of this country towards ancient connections, and what. we censider honourable relations on our part towards certain tribes of India ; being involved, likewise, by various interpretations of a recent treaty ; and l.eing involved, also, by matters relating to Nicaragua and other states. (Hear. hear) I may mention likewise that an act of 1851, carried into effect by the Government in 14p2, is likewise matter upon which a difference of opinio as arisen. Now, with regard to this subject, involving, as it does, most important ques tions, it does appear to me, from the hasty perusal which 'have been able to give to the document as it appeared in the newspapers to-day, that Mr. Marcy has written a very dispassionate despatch, and that, while maintaining theposition which America has hitherto sustained, he seems willing that issue should he j deed, and that those 'natters which are really matters for negotiation should be referred to arbitration. Now, sir, it has been s •ig gested. that although Mr. Dallas were t o rece i ve hi s pass portg-,-and all communication s with him were to be 4us wended, still that the negotiation - on all those various po i n t s might be carried on in some other place and by some other means. Sir, I c annot think that such a course would be befitting the dignity of this country, or that it 'would tend to conduce to satisfactory results. (Flenr.) I cannot think that it would be befitting the dignity of this country, if she cannot maintain diplomatic relations with the United States--I can hardly thi nk, sir, that if such be the case it would be dignified in her to enter into indirect negotiation with those states. (Cries of " Hear, hear"). And I can hardly think, sir, that such indirect means would tend to a good end ; for if those negotiations are to be carried on, I cannot think they could be better carried on than by Mr. Dallas, who is gentlemen universally respected, end who during his short time here has gained the good will of all classes of pawls- (hear, hear)—and on our part by Lord Claren don, who is fully acquainted with the whole case, and whose talents would in such a negotiation be of the highest service. (Hear.) Indeed, sir, I should be glad to see the same hand that signed the conclusion of hostilities in the East sign the termination of our dispute with the West. (Hear, and cheers.) With respect to - the second point which I mentioned, namely, the present state of affitirs in Central America, it is too obvious that accidents might OC'eur and that collisions might happen on some unfore seen occasion, or in some unexpected case, which might seriously compromise the amicable relations between the two countries. (Hear, hear.) We had before a question which for the greater part of a century remained in abeyance without any active interposition at either • side. And, air, we have seen that South America, so far from realising the anticipation of Canning, that she would create a new world to redress the balance of the old, not only has she been unable to obtain any great conquests, but she has even been unable to form any strong public state in Central America. But, sir, we see that some enterprising military chief, of considerable energy, who is likely to attract many followers to his standard, has been taking part with one party and act ing against another in Nicaragua, and has established a very considerable power ; and, very possibly, President Rivas, having the assistance of an able man, may be able o make excanfons on the Mosquito coasts, and make :„. , p 4 1 : . ~ . i 1 •t 1 --. 60 $ 350' -- -- Colchester Harwich 133 -- 370' Leigh - - 225 scialdon ,1115 91— Mr. PEEL defended the War-office. He stated that the manner in which the Government had treated the German Legion was laid down and stipulated for in the conventions under which they were recruited. It was the intention of the Government to adhere to these conditions. With respect to the disembodiment of the militia the Govern ment had uo choice, because by act of Parliament they were obliged to disband them immediately on the termi nation of the war. With respect to the saving of four mil lions which had been effected in this vote it had been made in the following manner. In the early part of the year the committee voted the whole number of meu-246,716—then asked for by the Government. It was not, however, ne cessary to have so large a force now, but at the same time there would have been some inconvenience in reducing the number of men. Probably it might have been necessary to introduce the bill to avoid the Mutiny Act. He anticipated th aby the end of the autumn the whole of the foreign corps would cease to be in the pay of the Government. Tak ing the Foreign Legion, the Land Transport Corps, the West Indian and Colonial corps together, he anticipated that there would be a reduction of 48,00) men on those origi nally voted. There would bo a reduction of about 300,0001. in respect of these troops. Then he came to the regular army. The house originally voted 154,140 infantry. The Government had determined to reduce this force to a peace establishment.. They had, in the first instance, endeavoured so to arrange the battalions as to enable them to be ex panded or contracted according to the exigencies of the time. lathe late war eight out of the 10 companies of which a regiment was composed were originally sent abroad, leav ing only two at home. These at home were found utterly insufficient to keep up the strength of the service com panies; and the number of companies in a regiment were afterwards raised first to 12, and ultimately to 16. Out of the 83 regiments of infantry we had now 50 who had 16 companies. It was the intention of the Government to make all the regiments consist of 12 companies, or 1,000 rank and file. At present the regiments in the Crimea were on a war footing of 2,000. The total reduction to which this would lead if carried out immediately, would leave only 95,000 men. It was not proposed, however, to carry out this intention immediately, bat to leave a margin of 10,000 or 14,000 men in the present vote. The total reduc tion in the number of infantry would, however, be 50,000 men, and taking the cost at 301, a man, that would give a saving of one and a half million. What was proposed to be done in future was to have about 40 regiments in infantry, the eight service companies of which would be formed int* divisions and brigades with a proper divisional and brigade staff. Then the depot companies would not be scattered about the country singly, but the depots of three regiments would be grouped together. The reduc lion in the Guards, cavalry, and artillery would amount to about half a million. It was proposed to reduce the Guards to 7,000. With respes,t to the cavalry regiments, it was intended to keep a larger number of men than horses, for the experience of the war had shown that it w+s proper to have more men than horses, while as the g: eat expense of a cavalry regiment consisted, not in the pay of the men but in the keep of the horses, this plan of reducing the horses in a greater proportion than the men, would unite the greatest economy with the greatest effici ency. He could not exactly state the future organisation of the cavalry, because the Government had not yet made up their minds whether the cavalry regiments would in fu ure consist of six or eight troot a. But it was probable that in future there would be 400 men and 30J horses in each cavalry regiment. The men not mountol would of course be trained so that they might ride any horses which might be found when they were required to go upon active service. The artillery it was proposed to reauce to 21,090 men, the present force being 23,517 men ; and while the greater part would be employed in garrison duty, it was proposed to keep up a force of field battery, for which 4,000 or 5,000 horses would be required to be maintained. In that way wo hal accounted for a saving of one million and a half on the infantry, and half a million on the other branch of the service, as well es 2 :0,0001. on the Land Transport Corps. • There would be a saving of 100,0001, out of the 300,000/. voted for the Turkish Contingency. The field allowances to officers and men would be reduced from 81.3, 00/. to 218,000/. The sum expended this year for the pureles+e of horses w +s 7.12,688/. ; and on that the Govern ment proposed to etlect a saving of 600,000/. The Turkish Government had purchased a number of the horses in the East, for which credit would be taken. The levy sum for recruits during the past year amounted to 350,000/., and that would be reduced 200,000/. It would only be ne cessary to raise a small number of recruits this year, and consequently that amount of saving would be effected, and on the whole four millions would be saved. There wore other items of detail which he had not named, on which it was expected there would be a consi derable saving. Mr. DISRAELI said he expected Mr. Monsell would have made the statement the house had just heard, but as the responsible Minister of the Crown had done so, the committee was no doubt much pleased at it. With regard to the army in the Crimea, on a former occasion the house was told there were no soldiers there, but that night infor mation respecting the army could not be given, becausethe army was there, which was an inconsistency which greatly affected the information given in the house. He asked the hon. gentleman to reconcile the two statements—how one night the house was to be satisfied with the Transport Ser vice on account of the army having been removed from the Crimea, and this night no information could be given be cause the army was in the Crimea. On the former night, when the First Lord of the Admiralty wag present, and made that statement, the Under Secretary for war was absent ; and that night it was vice versa. He thought on these occasions all the heads of departments should be pre sent. PARK. On the vote of 3,5001. for the suspension -bridge in St James's-park. Lord ELCHO feared he would not be able to induce her Majesty's Government to rescind the vote, but still he thought it his duty to protest against the sacrifice of thr beauty of the park. It was now proposed to erect a foot bridge across the ornamental water in St. James's-park, He thought the Government should call in competent per sons to report upon this proposed alteration. There was a gentleman in that house (Sir j. Paxton) who had laid out the grounds of the Crystal Palace with great effect, and hi (Lord Elcho) would be very much guided by what that hon member might say upon the question of the bridge. Agar he protested against intrusting money to the Board of Works without seeing the plans they intended to adopt. If the President of the Board of Works had been a dicta ter, and there had been no House of Commons, and no press, that park would have been cut up by broad roads, a proof that the right hon. gentleman (Sir B. Hall) had no taste in reference to the parks. (Laughter.) It was in order that they might not have improper structures that he opposed this vote until they had an opportunity of see ing the plans. More or less, all our statues and public buildings were a disgrace to us. Thera were, however, one or two bright pleasant places, and it was that one of those places should not be destroyed that ho brought the matter under consideraldon. (Cheers. Sir J. PAXTON said he was unavoidably absent on Fri day evening, or he should have advised the postponement of the question for another Betel en. Last year 2,8301. was granted for the purpose of throwing a bridge across the ornamental water, and that bridge would have cut the ornamental water in two—that was, a person would only see one side. He objected to that, and he had an equal objection to the proposed suspension bridge. He thought it would bo well to postpone the vote until they saw that plans were submitted for the bridge, for which, however, he confessed, he could not conceive the necessity. Mr. TITE said that if it were an iron chain bridge it would bo highly objectionable, but if it were such a bridge as the French had thrown across the Seine, be did not think it would be any eyesore. He had, however, received petitions from persons residing in the neighbourhood show ing that the proposed bridge was unnecessary, and that it would only lead to further encroachments. The noble lord at the head of the Government had said that the bridge would be for the convenience of the poor. He slid not see how that could be, but still if the bridge were really wanted, he thought some little concession might be made in point of taste. Mr. HENLEY thought that all the poor might be ac commodated if the Government would put a large free ferry on the water, and there would be no eyesore. (Hear, and laughter.) Sir B. HALL thought it rather hard that the noble lord (Elcho) should insinuate that his object was to accom modate those whom he had the honour to represent. But in the year 1. 1 29, when the old bridge was taken down, an effort was made to obtain the erection of a new bridge. The proposition hal been made in consequence of the representations of parties on both sides of the water. Ho thought a ferryboat would be a most inconvenient mode of transit. The new bridge would be one of the lightest pos sible character consistent with strength and safety. (Hear.) Mr. DISRAELI had been a member of the committee, and had voted with pride and satisfaction against every proposition of the hon. baronet. He could not support a proposition which would outrage every idea of taste for the convenience of a few parties. If the bridges should be raised they would not be very easily got lid of, and he thought it prudent to pause and form a more sound and mature opinion than now appeared to prevail in high • places If a false step should b e t a k en , it wee ld b e •im possible to recover it. When there was so much doubt as to the proper comae to pursue, he thought it desirable that some delay should take place in order to prevent the com mission of a great error. (Hear.) Lord PALMERSTON said the discussion had turned upon a question of t tate, but that was only a portion of the question to be decided. He did not think a bridge a deformity which could only be justified by necessity. He thought a bridge in itself a beauty, and that a suspension bridge was of all others the most beautiful and graceful, for that was the general character of the catenarian curve. (Laughter.) The hon. member for Oxfordshire, objecting. to a slight suspension bridge, proposed a large ferry boat (Laughter.) It was said that the bridge would be of no use, but he entertained a very different opinion, and be lieved a bridge would be of the greatest importance to foot passengers. (Hear.) It was very little to the credit or the good taste or feeling of the House of Commons if, having voted sums of money for the accommodation of the rich, they refused to vote a small sum for the accommodation of th e poor. (Hear.) do. E I When any of these dates fall on a Sund, the aka& sAtched on the following day, with the e ay xception 01 the •!ontharnpton), and the Malta. both of which will be &Ws" preceding day. LIVERPOOL, JUNE 16. 0 .. ° STACK EXCHANGE.—The mar k e t h as b een sally o/P- ig l and prices must be noted a shade lower, with little 4., 61 Midlands, 794 4-Sheffield,, 24—Ditto, 34 Per ! e l l 211 4 c. Lancashire and Yorkshire, 93 i i —South East ern' —East Lancashire, Pref., 1-sth shares, 5i —Lule.,7 o ol l constit., d.—North Eastern, Berwick, 201 - 00 1 Counties, 10i—Great Western of Canada, neW 21 p. Mr. GROGAN then moved, " That the house do resolve itself into a committee to consider of an humble address to her Majesty, praying that she will bo graciously pleased to direct alterations to be Made in the rules of the military service and in the warrant of March, .1556, to the effect that the regulation value of commissions of officers in the army who shall have died of cholera or fever in active sae• vice during the late war may be paid to their representa tives, and deemed part of their personal estate, and to assure ' her Majesty that this house wilt make good the same." lie complained that the Government, having made purchase compulsory, that the term• of the warrant were urgent, and the widows and orphans of those officers whose lives had been sacrificed by fever and pestilence in the dis charge of their duties connected with the field of battle, and hoped that for the future all such distinctions would he abolished. Such a distinction as that made by the war rant, in the care of those who died on the field of battle by the bullet or the sword, and those who died of fever and pestilence induced by the fatigues of their duties connected with the field of battle, was unjust, injurious, and wrong. (Hear.) He also took an objection to the termsof the war rant requiring the applicants in the case of a young lady t r have Ler application on the ground that she was i❑ dis tress and dependent on her brother for support, which was absurd to expect in the case of an ensign with 5s 3.1. per day pier, an l the same applied to other relatives of °St eers in• higher rank and holding high position iu society, and which was coutrary to the objecti and intention of the arrant_ He. contended that the option of the survivors to receive the money paid for the commission back again, or to receive an increased annuity, hat not been carried out indisciiminately as it ought to have been, or es the army expected. Officers who were compelled to leave the army were allowed to sell out and obtain the regulation price of the commissio❑ they had previously purchased, but the Government stood forward by their narrow inter pretation of the regulation referred to, and denied the right of those officers who had sustained the honour and reputation of their country to a Fiedler privilege. Toe hon. member referred to the case of the widow of the late Col. Hoye, whose 'application to have the increased pension cancelled and receive the amount of the commission on account of her family was refused. The return of officers killed in action during the late war, so far as at present ascertained, was 1 9, to which probably was to be added 100 more froid causes connected with that war, but only the friends of 16, ace , rding to a Parliamentary paper, May 21, had been considered worthy to receive the advantages of this warrant. No less than 25 officers of the Guards had lost their lives during the war, and the widow of one only (the Late Col. Brooke) had received the value of the com mission. lie saw no reason why this warrant should not be extended from the relatives of those who died in action to the relatives of those who bad sacrificed their lives by pes tilence and fever in the discharge of their duties. (Hear, hear ) He moved the amendment of which he had given ❑otice. MANCHESTER, JUNE 16. STOOK EXOHANGE.—The m ar k e t h as been 1. " kr0g .. . a ,0" . regards prices, but veny little business was traT36-', Midlands, 78.1 i—Leeds, 931 0 g a—Dovers, 211 ' 010 Great Wester n o f Canada, 26—Sbeffields. 2911 and Windermere, 10—Eas t Lancashire, 191. Col. LINDSAY said that all the difficulty arose from the relaxation of the old rules of the service. If, however, the Government did relax these roles, it was but just to include not only those who died in the field, but those who died in consequence of climate or of disease contracted in the discharge of their duties. The recommendation of the commissioners, as contained in the 52d clause of their re port, was to the effect that all change should be carefully cons id ere d, so es in no case to run the risk of injuring officers alre ely in the service. In consequence of this re commendation, a warrant bad been issued to the effect that the new regulations should not apply to officers ma le lieutenant-colonels before the 20th of June, 1851. By the old rules it was understood that lieutenant-colonels should not have other officers put over their heads, unless in con sequence of a distinct recommendation from her Majesty. The new rules established a totally different order of things, and the sudden intervention of these new orders had been the cause that lieutenant-colonels who had re ceived their brevet rank in consequence of distinguished servic9e in the field, lost their reward altogether. These warrants intervened—made the benefits they had received utterly useless and threw them book into the position which they occupit d before it. There was another class who had reason to complain of these new regulations. It was those who were unable to purchase, and who bad risen from the rank of captain to that of brevet-major, and then to the rank of brevet-lieutenant-colonel. These were men who had seen much service, and the entire advantages which they hied received from their promotion were sud denly and entirely thrown away. A new rule was brought forward, which placed these officers precisely in the same position as if they had never been lieutenant-colonels at all. Lord HOTHANI said his vote on the present occasion would be given in direct opposition to the vote of every other member of the profession to which he belonged. He considered there was nothing whatever in the hardship of which honourable and gallant members had complained. Officers wine not compelled to purchase. If they did pur chase they gained certain advantages, and had no right to complain of the disadvantages to which officers had hitherto been subjected. He considered it his duty to give his vote in favour of her Majesty's Government. Mr. M. CHAMBERS agreed with the hon. and gallant member who had just spoken, that those officers who took advantage of purchasing commissions ought to submit to the inconveniences attending that system. He hoped that no division would take place (on the subject, for the ques tion now submitted to the house was too much limited. The committee ought to have power to investigate the whole subject. Mr. BELLEW said the noble lord at the head of the Government had last year promised that the warrant should be altered, and if the noble lord would adhere to that pro mise he would vote with him on the present occasion. Lord PALMERSTON said the interpretation given to his remarks last year was totally at variance with what he had said. The motion before the house amounted to this that the arrangements made for granting to the families of deceased officers the value of their commissions in lieu of pensions granted to their families, should apply to officers who died during the war from fever or cholera. Now last year he bad distinctlyestated that the arrange ment could apply only to those officers who were killed in action, and that it would not apply to those whodied from disease—(hear) —because otherwise it would extend not simply to the families of tho-o officers who might die in the Crimea, but to all the families of all the officers who might die on any foreign station, or at home in peace as well as in war. The intent on of the Government was to confine it to hose who fell in action. Instead of giving any such pledge as had been intimated, he had stated in the most distinct terms that it was nos the intention of the Government to make the change suggested. The rea sons which last year iocuced him to draw the distinction rendered it impossible for him to agree to the present mo tion. He thoue,ht there was a clear distinction between the case of officers falling in battle and the case of those who died from disease. a A great deal of argument had been founded on the assumption that the public gained some thing by the death of officers who perished from disease. Now, the fact was the public gained nothing whatever, for the value of the commission was not paid to the Govern ment, but to the officer who sold the commission. (Hear.) The house then divided on Mr. Grogan's motion. The numbers were— Ayes Noes BIRMINGHAM, JuNz 16. tO' e T STOCK EXOTIANGE.— This market was 4 : ' and prices fi r m. Midl an d s, 79 — L on d on and -P', Western, 102—Eastern Counties, 104 —Shropshir e ing Co., 3.:8.9. 0 di e [AnvEartsamaxr.]—Medicine always aggr avates eases, such as dyspepsia (indigestion), flatulency, habitn Vt l stipation, nervous, bili ous , an d li ver complaints, &C•' 11011 Barry's delicious R eva l en t a A ra bi ca F oo d invar i a bly nur'l;4,oo - in a very short time. W e ex t rac t two out o f ma ny thief expressions of gratitude from invalids :—From the I: ) ,t r o eti Countess of Castlestuart. Cure 52,612.—Rosstreivr, ‘74800 of Down, Ireland, December 9, 1854. The Dowager Ce .. istr of Casticstuart feels i n d uce d , in the interest of suffe r :7oi°, manity, to state that Du Barry's excellent Revalenta Food has cured her, after all medicines had failed, of ill 6 0 tion, bile, great ner vousness an d irritability of Ittle g Ylret standing. This food deserves the confidence of an 811 _701 °- and may bo considered a real blessing. 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In canisters, 51bs. 11a. ; 1 21 b ." 3 311 super-refined, 11b., 6s. ; 21135., lls. ; slbs., , 245.; 1 ° 1b 1, 0 " 0 0 , The 101bs. and 121 be. ca rnage f ree, on receipt . a Pe",,doo' order. Barry du Barry and Co., 77, Regent-street, 102 ., Ne c4' Fortnum, Mason, and Co., Purveyors to her Majesty' dilly ; also at 60, Gracechurch-street ; 330 and 451, StrO c bst' Cheapside 68, Ccruhill ; 49, Bishopsgate-street 55 Ador il ing-cross ; 54, Upper Baker-street; 63 and Is o . street. Lord PALMERSTON said the right hon. gentleman had made a mistake. He could not have been present on the former occasion, or, if he was, be mu s t h ave b een suggest ing statemeas to those behind him. (Laughter.) The First Lord of the Admiralty stated that the bulk of the army was in the Crimea ; but that a great many had been brought away, and all would be removed by July. It was all very well for the right hon. gentleman to be funny on this question, and he had displayed much bravery by raising up a phantom and then knocking it down again ; but it was not fun to the First Lord of the Admiralty for the hon. gentleman to make such a statement. After a few words from Mr. L. DAVIES, Mr. STAFFORD corroborated the inconsistencies of the two statements, and said the Hoblelord could not have been present on the occasion alluded to, or ho would not have made the statement he had that night. Sir C. NAPIER confirmed Lord Palmerston's state ment, that Sir C Wood said on the occasion referred to that be hoped to have all the soldiers away from the Cri mea by the beginning of July. (Hear.) Mr. MOH said the country ought to have something better to rely upon than a militia. He had no objection to see the army and navy greatly reduced, if there was some thing behind that could be expanded momentarily to meet any emergency that might arise. The hon. gentleman re ferred to the improvements in barrack accommodation, and also to the improvements that had of late years been made in the army, but still it was not a popular service. And wley ? Because the length of service was too great, oven with the ten years' limitation of the noble lord at the head of the War Department; but if a pension of fid. a day was given on the discharge of the men, numbers would be induced to join the service. Sir DE L. EVANS concurred in all that had been sail on this subject, and considered the warrant might with justice be extended wider to all those officers who died in service, whether in battle or not. The warrant, as at pre• sent construed, created great dislike; and gave great dis pleasure among the officers of the army. Col. DUNNE called upon the Government to settle the question, and extend the privileges of the warrant to the class referred to: He also called attention to the present distinguished service pension, and said an officer who had .obtained that pension ought to be allowed to retain it if he sold out after, and not, as now, lose it. (Hear.) Cpl. NORTH also supported the amendment, and cha racterised the declaration required of a young lady apply ing in consequence of her brother being killed in action as one.of the most insulting description. She had to make a profession of poverty, that she was single, and that she was dependent on him for support during his lifetime, al though his pay was not more than 55. 3d. per clay. The gallant officer brought under the consideration of the house the injustice inflicted upon old and distinguished officers by the retrospective action and practical working of the army warrant of the 6th day of October, 1854, laying down the rules regulating the future promotion cf the army. Many old officers by that warrant had been passed over by those who took rank over them for distinguish d service in the field, and he instanced the case of officers when 39, and in instance 54 office's had been placed over the head of an old and distinguished officer. He suggests d that the recommendation of the committee, in reference to this subject, should be carried out, viz., that of increasing the list of full colonels, and decreasing that of lieutenant colonels, which would not have the means of increasing the pay, but would have the effect of doing a graceful act to those old officers who had shown their anxiety and wish to do everything they could for the good of the country. If the Government promoted.thore officers on the list pre vious to the 21th of June to the rank of full colonels they would be doing no injustice to those promoted after that period. lie also complained of the way in which gallant officers were gazetted for distinguished services, and sug gested that the recommendation of the committee iu that respect should be adopted. With regard to officers holding the higher 'Appointments of the staff, the rule was that no field officer in command should take it. In consequence, any officer accepting an appointment on the staff had to give up the command of his regiment. Now, what man in his senses would give up his regiment for an appoint ment• which might be cancelled in a few years ? This was a question of importance, involving the interests of the army and the power of BIRTHS. OP & COL 90 On the 14th inst., at Orton Longvill e , the March si°/ of Huntly. On the 15th inst., at Lancaster-place, savoy, the', of the Rev. John Forster. or ♦ 1:IA1:METZ& On the lfith inst., at it, Berkeley-place, th° Suffield. a s On the 16th inst., at 29, Gordon-street, Gordon• 01 Mrs. C. Mitchell Charles. MARRIED. 1 14 On the 16th inst., Henry B arnar d , C omman der rY, son of John Barnard Hankey, Esq., of Fetebarlbth Leatherbead, to Isabel, widow of the late D. a .1 Esq., of Wykham-park, Banbury. On the 14th inst., at the New District Church, J - a o olo enham, Arthur Crozier, third son of George Edward '' l '; 00 11 Esq., Latyme r Cottage, Hamm e r sm ith, to Ewa's' oil' daughter of J osep h Ivimey, Esq., of Ampthill-stl London. Sir J. TROLLOPE objected to the army being distri buted in small numbers in the colonies, because it de stroyed the discipline of the army. Mr. A. PELLATT called attention to. an entry of 17,8001. for fitting out non-commissioned officers on their promotion, and complained that that promotion put the soldier in a worse posi ion than when he was a non-com missioned officer receiving good conduct pensions. Mr. HENLEY said some feelirg would be created in the country if the foreign r ziments were kept in pay longer than their services wore required, especially after what had fallen from the gallant general (Sir De Lacy Evans). Mr. PEEL said the majority of the Foreign Legion had served in the East. The Government must redeem its promise of sending them home. • Mr. BUCK thought it was to be regretted that in the artillery corps the French system had not been adopted, of promoting non-commissioned officers. The non-commis sioned officers in our artillery service were allowed to rot in the service, and this was a disgrace to our service. In the other branch of the service, wh er e so much education was not required, the eon-commissioned officers could compete with commissioned officers for promotion. If they wanted to introduce education in the army, they must have oom.• peq tive exami na tio n . Th ere was a remarkable instance in that house of the system pursued in this country. Th e sob-inspector of fortifications was a member of that house, and tho office was worth 8001. a-year. He arr. Back) had endeavoured to find out what peculiar merit ho had, but he was at a loss to find any, but he was a member of the Mr. BARROW, amidst loud cries of "divide," objected to the vote, which was intended for the convenience of only a small portion of the community. (Oh, oh.) Al though the vote was a trifling one, it was one which had to be paid by the working classes. (Hear.) Mr. K. SEYAIER did Hot think a bridge could be placed across a garden without spoiling it; and said that the public would be much better accommodated with a free ferry, which would not cost more than 501, or 601. Sir J. SHELLEY, amidst loud cries of " divide," con tended that the working classes ware deeply interested in the question, and were most anxious for the erection of the proposed bridge. Lord ELCHO explained. Sir T. ACLAND was decidedly in favour of a bridge, and would not consent to accommodate the higher classes without accommodating foot-passengers. (Hear, hear.) The house then divided. The numbers were— For the vote ..•...... 119 ' Against 93 Majority —2O The vote was agreed to, as were the other votes. The Stock in Trado Exemption Bill was read a second time. Oa the 15th inst at 24, Glocester-gardens, DIED. .. df Sir 0 "' ~ t Duckett, Bart., F.R.S., F.S.A., aged 79. , nieff On the 15th i ns t., a t 10 , Portland-place, Mstilul l if - - for the second d aug ht er o f Th omas B. Erorsfall, BEI" e..... aged 19. ro'fi v On the 16th inst., at 52, WimPole-street, Thorns. der, Esq., of Hilmarton-lodge, Wilts. m dtor• On the 14th i ns t., a t 76, Eb ury - stree t, Mr. .1 . • '— aged 4. plet On 6 the 13th inst., Arthur Barron, of the Inner Tsr3oo. barrister-at-law, and late Fellow of Trinity College, bridge, aged 55. coy On the 13th inst., Charles Henry Beddoes, EA" wande the r R N ore' On 13th inst., at 25, Motcomb-street, 8e,,,4' i be' square, Charle s Willi am Ed war d s , Esq. , of the St. rine Docks. On the 12th inst., Mr. James Cooper, Maiden -lane, CO' vent-garden, aged 71; ' , —.....e Majority ******************** -42 SUPPLY. The house then resolved itself into committee of supply; Mr. Fitzroy in the chair. On the vote of 10,0001., in addition to the 7,000,0001. already voted for our land forces.at home and abroad. Mr. W. WILLIAMS objected to the vote. Col. DUNNE objected to the ealietment of foreign Me Drainage (Ireland) Bill was read a second time. The Survey of Great Britain Bill was read a second time. The Poor Law Amendment (Scotland) Bill passed through committee. The other orders of the day wore disposed of, and the house adjourned about two o'clock. n rrild LONDON: Printed and Published by MI:MD° Y . w - l ig of No. 112. Strand, Printer, at The Sun Office. StranO, in the Precinct of the Savoy, in the 0 0 " Middlesex, Tuesday, June 17, 1856. Mess rii 'MO SE Cil Ades: Cr Sir E fir Fr L a ] The eoi; " 1113 i His I The tiotu 24es! Mes: cl IEO MeSE Ai esf. Mes: PI Mes The] E' Lord Mon .J. 13( c. Tien Goo. hir J 31esF J. J. Matt lIICSE P.O -C. F Joh r Mr. II e-s; L. Mess Mess. 11 Mess. Mese lies: an w.] Sid, 3 , 1 e;; CI jolir sir I rtes It. 0] Et, ReE t r Y'. `' t ,~Te 14c , , ~~: ~~ ~I $i a~ ~.~ h! :~