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• Chairman be requested to have it copied and inclosed to the Duke of Sussex. GRUNDY seconded the resolution, which was then put and carried unanimously. Mr. H. RAwsoN, of Manchester, moved that the fol lowing petition be adopted for presentation to the House Of Commons : To the Honourable the Commons of Great Britain and Ireland in Parliament assemble,'. The representation of the undersigned members of a Confer ence at present assembled at Palace-yard, Westminster. Showeth,—That the long protracted distress of this nation is generally increasing, and has become intolerable. That without an immediate change in the policy of the Legislature there is no hope of a restoration of public prosperity. The disruption of the very elements of society is threatened, the stability and the good order of the State are hastening to an end. The industrious classes are starving, and your laws prevent them from earning bread. We call upon your House instantly to abolish all monopolies which interfere with the rights of labour, and to take means, that you shall net separate until the Corn-laws ate entirely rf..apeaded. Aeel while we deliberately declare our belief that the remedy for the existing public (heiress is within the powers of Par liament, we hereby record our solemn warning that the con sequences of rejecting the application of that remedy will Le at the dour of your lionouraWe House. And your petitioners will ever pray. It had been intended that this petition should be pre sented by Mr. Villiers, and that he should make some motion that would bring the subject before the Howie in some way or other. The advantages of this were so clear, that •he need seereely mention them. The great advantage that had arisen from the debates in the House of Commons, hart been the constant admission 0 . : their Opponents, of the truth of the principles they main tamed. On every motion that had been brought for ward, they had made seine achnission or other, tali! espe cially their leader, Sir R. Peel. (hi one motion, he ad mitted that agricultural prosperity depended on com mercial prosperity. In another debate, he admitted that the people ought to have the advaetage of buying in the cheapeet, and selling in the dcareet market. Seareely one of the principles maintained by tbe free-tradere, but ..viett they hail athuhltitl ; and the only objection they lion seemed dr; fall back upon was that of the Sucialiste. The only anewer they seemed to bring forward as an an swer to their principles, was the evils of machinery—this was tlie staple commodity in which the monopolists now dalt. Ile moved that the peti'_ion be signed by the Chairman, on behalf of do! Con ferceei Mr. Mount, seconded the petitior , he said it:; object wets to net IT a diseuesiou that evening, which should iaterrupt or delay the granting of the supplies. It would be brought lOrward on. the motion that the -peaker leave the Chair, and that the House go into ti emnitiee, stated that the .distress had g;oec on steadily increasing,; f.)r the last three •or four years ; in Mauchester it had gone on ieereasing for a year, and the eenditioa of the eperatives there was destitiem in the extreme, particularly the poor Irish, who had no legal title to perochial relief. The law made their bread dear, and prevented them from gezting employment, but it vvould not allow that to beg, nor give them relief. Ile had visited the families of the per, and he found, from inquiries, that they had only subsisted for a long period by pawning end selling all they had, and purchasing eonp tiekets, which were sold at 1 each, and. by means of which, 1,300 gallons td soup were distributed dlity, and yet it was not enough fir one-half, or one e'erd of the applicants for it. 'File people wimil have been dead if it had net been for this assistance from i,;:ivate charity. The Government had dent nettling for , I,lll—the its had done ;,-,.!:i lee or them. They might }tare starved in their e , cellars fee. what the j,4 w 4)1. the Governee-e: ; dene for them. Ile had had worth of soup ticket-. e - hieti ha had distributed to 133 peo?le. That was not ee-etwentieth part of the people who asked for them ; they came day after day to him for thou. They hail, in meny instances, wily one quart of soup for a whole family for a day. Day after slay they were without next and withwit work, although they were willing to work. Typhus was becoming very ye:vale:it among them. He would mention the case of Joseph ho had a wife and live children. Two of his children and his wire had (lied within two dap. Ile hail seen the certificate sent by the medical officer of , the ititirmary where one 01 the children had died, and which stated that the child had died from fever brought fait through want of clothing and want of food. The peer man himself was so weak as to be scarcely able to walk. He had already related the case of a poor man who had been found lying - on a lock of shavings on a clay floor. That man, it had been said, had died of phthisis, but what had occasioned the phthisis ?. The man had been without clothing, he had been thirty-eix hours without food—he bad had no tire—and were not these privations sufficient to produce phthisis ?The Hon.and Learned Gentleman alluded to the case of a man named Peoley, who had died of inflammation of the brain, br.eight on by want and . suffering. There was a poor man, named Richard Conner, who was ill of consump tioa, who resided in Mount-street, Manchester ; that nian had applied for parochial relief ; he said his settle ment was in Manchester ; that he had been torn in Manchester, but could not prove it. -The officer neg lected to relieve him—he had forgotten liiin- 7 and when he was ultimately taken into the workhouse he was past hope of recovery. But the most painful thing was to 'see the little children, at an age when they ought to know nothing but enjoyment—there they were with • wait and masted looks, their faces stamped with the cares of old age, and themselves piteously asking every one they saw for food ; they were naked, they were cold, they were diseased, they Wad.scarcely food sufficient to keep soul and body together. 'Filings were growing worse. .If a - mill were. shut' up but for one day, the people were us'iing For soup-tickets. They were barely able by constantly working to earn sufficient to live—they were even then obliged to pawn their clothes, and the weavers bad almost all pawned their shuttles. If a weaver got work, he was generally obliged to beg money to get his shuttle out of pawn, anti then to beg food to give him strength to throw his shuttle. • lie knew that in many of .their houses which he had visited, there was not one morsel of food. Dr. Howard, the Physician to the Man chester Infirmary, -had given it as his opinion that many of these persons were so reduced by starvation, that if they were suddenly called upon to do full work, they would die. He had urged the Board of Guardians to Consider this, when they were testing men in the stone yard. He had represented to them that the men had been sulfering from hunger, from mental agony, from privatious ,of all sorts, and that the effect of • setting them to work might be to kill them. Then they were tolithat the markets of the world were glutted. Yes—snot because people did not want the goods, but because we would not take payment for them in the only way in which they could pay us.—(Cheers.) If a shop keeper had been in the habit of supplying a baker with goods, and of taking payment in loaves, and he were sud denly to refuse to take the loaves, the only thing the biker had to give him, he might continue to send his e•xids to the baker until he blocked up his house. Then there would be over-production, not because the baker did not want the goods, but because the shopkeeper was so absurd as to refuse payment in the only manner in which payment could be made to him. The people in general were not half clothed ; they had not the clothing they wanted ; they were desirous of having inure ; how then could there be over-production? The reason was the r.eple could not earn money sufficient to pay for them. There were nut too many goods in the world ; but it was oin- own folly, in refusing to take • payment for them in the only way in which purchasers could pay for them that eteised - over-production.—(Cheers.) • There was over-production, because parties could not pay for goods, and not because too much goods were manufactured. The petitioners stated that there was threatened disruption of the elements of society. Now he was himself an advocate for peace under all eiream st times ; but he could not but look forward to the possi lel.ty of the people being driven by famine to the despe rJ•,o resource of risking their lives and liberties for the purpose of endeavouring to obtain bread for themselves, their wives, and their children ; and under such circum stances it was the duiy of every honest man to use his best exertions to obtain that justice for the people which would avert the threatened calamity. The petitioners called upon the House of Commons to try a repeal of the Corn-laws, us a remedy for the prevailing distress. That trial was all they required ; and if it did not su2ceed they would at once consent to a re-imposition of the • burden. The petitioners concluded by "recording their snlemn warning that the consequences of rejecting the application of the proposed remedy would lie at the doors of the House." There could be t:o doubt but that the consequences which might result from the sufferings of the people, would be' attributable to the authors of the system in which those sufferings originated. These were the paltry arguments that were brought forward by Sir }L. Peel ; and he admitted the other night, that if the distress continued it would be necessary to have an early revision of the Corn-laws—another revision of the tariff One would think that the simTlest revision of the tariff on earth would lie for the Government to let it alone— to leave those who were in trade to trade in their own way ; to leave those who earned their living i.oy the sweat of their brow to earn it in their own way. It had often.oecurred to him that trade was like the sensitive plaat. If they brough; their hands near it its leaves • dr ,oped, and withered, and hung down, and if they kept. their hands there the plant fell prostrate. So it was with trade. Whenever Government brought its hot hand near it it drooped ; and if they kept their hands there it died at last. They ought •to leave trade alone, and leave God to govern it. He, (lid not like speaking to the Government in peti tions, that because there was distress and suffering there mtvt be something done.. The distress and suffer ing wera good reasons why something should be done at Once. That distress, and difficulty, and danger, did mit make their cause any stronger ; they were only so ma:ly proofs of the strength of their arguments. If this year should be a year of plenty, greatve than had ever occurred before, the COM-I;MS would still be unjust. They would still represent man, holding up his strength against God—man making laws in contempt of the laws of 'God. He (Mr. Moo:-e) liked that free trade question from its being a peace question, fur free trade made every country have an interest in the other countries of the earth. and of nicking all prosperous together. They woldd then want no taxation for the army, they would wAnt n o ships of war—every ship of Ivar would become a merchant vessel. The people were now taxed beyond at they could hear to keep up a readiness for shedding human Wood. oh —..ange that syst eat and they ,would hav, , im!reasing Plenty. It was hard that betwjen them -nd th;tt change there slmuld stand in country dr -. one One who was raw:erre!, and 0.-irtd y not only the people, but, to d e r y G o d. N o n ' et ' fort was too ;rent to he Made in that cause. Nothing was too crest to be done to accomplish if. it coild be Pr lied; Alr. Thompson had told them h ow it could be accomplished. it was in the power of the peopl e . By selftlental the people could precluda the possibility of continuing their .tyratiny. Their whole strength depended on th e p eo pl e . The resolution was Ulm' put mid carried unanimously. The 011111.11.1 N said. ho .had inentiowa , an early part of the nteetitig that a •letter d froLn the Potteries, wh.L.!l :vou!,i than read t o th em Fenton, Staffordshire Potteries, July 14,1842. large bodies of ealliers have b een My Dear fir,—Allthrs day passing this way to Langton and Cheadle, with the intention of turning out all the colliers in the district, the great body in quiet order, but followed by straggling parties, demandingbread and alms as they pass along. In the last three or four Sundays, per:ozis have been preaching to the people in this district, be ginning with a verse from the Bible, and then branching out and asking their hearers if they have money to purchase guns, if not pistols, and, as a last resource, If they have not a penny, to buy lucifer matches. Pray, excuse me for not writing more particulars, but this moment, the Magistrates of the county have passed by my manufactory, backed by three companies of the I2th Foot, and three companies of yeomanry cavalry. God knows what will be the result. To morrow, it may be my unhappy task to give returns of killed and wounded. So much for filo horrid bread-tax. When will our class-legislators have mercy and wisdom?—Yours truly, CHARLES MASON. Mr. Owrx, of Manchester, next addressed the meeting. 1 He said, that after the very eloquent speeches which they had heard in support of the petition, he would not detain the meeting long. Suffice it to say, he concurred in what had fallen from. the previous speakers. He did not hesitate to say that he was one of a deputation from the shop keepers of Manchester. They had .waited on Sir IZobert Peel, but he had refused to hear them. lie (Mr. Oven) supposed they had heard what passed from Mr. Birch. He (Mr. Owen) had heard some remarks re vecting the evils inflicted on hand-loom weavers, and that a great deal had been said about machinery being the cause. This was the cause assigned by the Premier himself. Now he (Mr.. Owen) happened to be intimately connected with that branch of the business. His opinion of the Corn-laws was that they were subversive of the best interests of the country.—(Hear, hear.) If a poor man was obliged to give 2s. Bd. a dozen lb. for his flour, when the price ought to be ls. Bd. a dozen, and the fa mily usta - I . three dozen lb. a-week, there would be 3s. a week taken from that. family by this legitima tized robhery. Machinery was blamed as the cause, lalienevtr wages were reduced ; but he believed - they were blamed wrongly. lie believed wages of •the Manchester weavers hart just been reduced Id. in every Ginghams, for which the operatives were paid Iss. eut a few years ago, were only paid for at the rate of is. a cut now, although the cut was now 58 yards long, instead of 52, as it was when the price was 15s. The number of men employed as silk handloom weavers in Manchester,was not less than 20,000, and the reduction of Id. in every Od• on their wages must amount to an immense sum. lie hoped . Sir H. Peel would not blame , machinery for that reduction; neither could it be said that the article had .given way to others which had become more popular; ,that was not the case, for the re duction in the price of- ginghams had not taken place till four years after the duty was taken off caliciaprints. Ile hoped he should hear no more about machinery j being the cause of all this. In reference to the state of the people, he •should say, that he knew whole familiea who were unable to obtain food for themselves by their own exertions. Those were not drunken people, but respectable hard wanking people ; the rags they wore were clean—it was quite surprising to witness their cleanliness in the midst of their poverty ; they were peo ple that would be a 'credit to any ration. He daily heard tales at' starvation—the people lived on nothing but potatoes, eaten with salt ; the children cried for bread, and, with tears in their eyes, asked their heart-broken par,:!:its," Why there was no bread now."—(Hear, hear.) Thin . were daily getting worse in Lancashire. In Stovkport, bad as they were, they were positively get ting- worse. One firm, which was said to be rich, stop ped 200 narrow looms the other day, by which means between 60 and 70 hands would be thrown out of employment. The CHAIRMAN interrupted the speaker to state, as Deie!.rates were leaving the room, that on Monday, after the Conference, there would be a dinner at four o'clock at that house, at which it was hoped that as many De puties; would give their attendance as possible. The cost would be very moderate, and the object was that they right have a general conversation after dinner. • Mr. OwEN continued.—Another fact, which was not generally known to a stranger, was, that though the en gine might go round and appear to be working full time, the men were not doing so; in many cases working one 'or two looms, when they could attend to four if they had full work. (Hear, hear.) It hatt been been stated that in Manchester a hand loom weaver had been obliged to borrow money to release his shuttles from pawn. A speaker bad also said that he knew some weavers who were in receipt of very good • wages. But that was a hard battle in which every man was killed. In a population of upwards of 300,000, it was impossible there should not be some good workmen and some good employment.—(Hear, hear.) A gentle man had recommended that the Conference should wait. Why they ought not to wait for an hour.—(Hear, hear.) Even amongst the Tories, abtut Manchester, there were many who wished to - be rid of the party, and certainly they would not vote for a Tory now. A DELEGATE asked whether it had been ascertained what was the number of the work people in the whole of the North? _ The CHAIRMAN said it was impossible to answer the question, but the number was increasing very rapidly ; and be thought it would be advisable to take measures tin• ascertaining the number unemployed at this moment, anil the progress of thf3 increase in the number.—(Hear.) After a short and desultory conversation, the meeting adjourned till Monday, at eleven o'c'oeli. AFFAIIi OF HONOUR. BETWEEN CAPTAIN 13OLDERO. M.P., AND THE HON. CRAVEN BERKELEY, , A hostile meeting took place yesterday morning be tween the Hon. Craven Berkeley, M.P., and Capt. Boldero, M.P. The dispute arose in consequence of Mr. Berkeley having attributed to Captain Boldero the use of certain expressions disrespectful to her Majesty, which the latter peremptorily denied. The parties met this morning at five o'clock in the neighbourhood of Osterley Park, Mr. Berkeley accompanied by the lion. W. Ridley Colborne, M.P., and Capt. Boldero by Mr. W. F. Mackenzie, -M.P., and having ex changed shots without effect they left the ground. The following letters have passed on this subject : CIRCULAR ADDRESSED TO THE GENTLEMEN WHOSE ANSWERS IMMEDIATELY FOLLOW :- (PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL.) " House of Commons, July 12, 1842. "My dear Sir,--1 find it has been stated that I used an expression last night in your presence (the words of which I perfectly recollect) which has led to my loyalty and attachment to my Sovereign being questioned ; this has caused ine much pain, as I did not think my words could he so misunderstood. I have, in consequence of this unjust report, to request of you, as one of the gentlemen present, to state what passed, in the precise words if you recollect them, or the substancp of them, if not. " Your early reply will favour yours very sincerely, " 11. G. BOLDERO." " Carlton Club, July 13, 1842. " Dear Boldero,—As an anonymous letter has ap peared in the Morning Chronicle of to-day, reflecting upon the language you made use of the night before last in my presence, in the lobby of the House of Commons. I willingly comply with your request, by putting into writing my recollection of what passed.. " :Kr. Craven Berkeley, in a tone something be tween joking and earnest, and in a noisy manner, questioned yon as to what your conduct would be if a man were to damn the Queen in your presence at a convivial meeting ?' "The question appeared to have reference to other discourse which had passed between you, and which I had not heard; and I think allusion was made to a similar coarse expression, hypothetically applied Sir Robert Peel, or the Duke of Wellington. Your reply was both calm and judicious, and to this effect, almost in these very words ; you said, that you would take no notice of it at the time if the man was drunk; but that you should call upon him the next morning, tell him that he had made a feol of himself the night before, and that you gave him the opportunity of expressing his contrition now that he was sober, and had had time for reflection.' It is needless to repeat what followed from Mr. Craven Berkeley, but I..am prepared to state, upon oath, if necessary, that you never deviated from the sense or -substance of the reply quoted. " The language put into your mouth in the 3Prning Chronicle is incorrect in one important par ticular, and the latter portion of .your answer is en tirely omitted,•which is like the Atheist taking his text from Scripture, "There is no God,' omitting the previous words of the Psalmist The fool hath said in his heart.' " Yours very sincerely, " HENRY THOMAS LIDDELL. " Captain Boldero, &c., &c."' " Whitehall Place, July 12, 1842. " My dear Sir,—l have not the least hesitation in complying with your request, and stating the sub stance of what you declare,' to Mr. Craven Berkeley, in the course of a conversation with him in the ante room of the lobby of the House of Commons last night, which was to the following effect :—That if any eerson in your presence should state anything which was disrespectful of the Duke of Wellington, Sir Robert Peel, or even of the Queen herself, such per son at the time when such disrespectful language was used being in a state of intoxication, that you would not feel yourself justified, under such circumstances, to call the party to account, but that you would await the opportunity of his sober'moments to afford him the means of explanation before you stigmatised him with disloyalty and disrespect to the distinguished persons before-mentioned. This declaration on your part was strongly impressed upon my mind from the circumstance of my feelings being quite in accordance with your own upon this subject, though Mr. Craven Berkeley dissented therefrom—l am, my dear Sir, yours, very truly, " W. THOMPSON. " Capt. Boldero, M.P., &c. &c." "House of Commons, July 12, 1842. "My dear Sir,—l have this instant read your letter which you put into my hands a few moments Igo, and hasten to comply with, your reque s t, th a t I wo uld state what passed in my hearing in the ante room of the House of Commons last night, respecting in expression used by you, and which you say has led to Your loyalty and attachment to you r S overe i gn 4eing questioned ; you further wish m e t o state in the precise terms, if .1 recollect them, or the substance of them, if not with that also I will comply. " You said that, any man, beingdrunk, damned the Queen in your presence, you would not notice it at the time ; but that you would call upon 'aim the next morning, acquaint him that he had u se d 'such language, and give him the opportunity of re i.radting it b 3 ore you named it to any one. . " I do not suppose you wish me to state what was said by any one else, and therefore will only add that the construction which I placed on the words o used by you (and which could not be fairly misconstrued by any one who observed your tone and manner) was, that you would notice any language disrespectful towards the Queen, in such a way as would be most becoming in an officer holding her Majesty's commission, and most consonant with those feelings of loyalty and honour, which belong to' an English gentleman.—l am, dear Sir, most respectfully yours, "CHARLES DOUGLAS. "To Captain Boldero, &c." . "My dear Sir,—ln reply to your note of last night, I believe that the words you used were, that if any man were to damn the Queen, to damn the Duke of Wellington, or to damn Sir R. Peel, that pill would not notice such words, if used when drunk, preferring a remonstrance on the following morning—in short, that you would not consider it necessary to call any man to account for expressions used under the influ ence of intoxication ; upon which Mr. Craven Berkeley said he would kick or shoot any man who should damn the Queen in his presence. This led to some altercation, which I did not view seriously at the time, and out of which, as it appeared to me, no question could arise as to your loyalty and attachment to your Sovereign.—Believe me, my dear Sir, faith fully yours " BERIAH BOTFIELD. _ " 9„ Stratton-Street, Wednesday morning." "My dear Sir,—l should have been much con cerned at the receipt of your letter of yesterday's date, had I felt that in answering the questions which are asked in it I should in any degree countenance the interpretation which you say has been put upon some expressions of yours used in my presence. lam aware of the occasion to which you refer, as 'I have been already asked a question on the subject. " You said that if you. heard a man who was drunk d—n Sir Robert Peel, or the Duke of Wellington, or even the Queen herself, although you held her commission and received her salary beside, and were therefore bound to be especially jealous of any disrespectful words used towards her, that you could not feel yourself justified in reporting them, until you had remonstrated with the party uttering them, when sober, and giving him an opportunity of recalling them. " I cannot be answerable for the very words you used, but I am sure I have given the only meaning which can by possibility be attributable to them, and trust that this answer may be satisfactory to you ; and "Believe me, yours very truly, • "WILLIAM CRIPPS. " 38, St. James's-place, July 13." ". 6, Grosvenor-square, July 13, 1842. " Sir,—Observing in the Morning Chronicle of this day a statement pretending to detail. a conversation that passed between us on Monday night, I beg to ask you, if you can assist me in detecting the author of so base,; false, and malicious a calumny. " Your obedient servant, " H. G. BOLDERO. " The Hon. Craven Berkeley." " Spring-gardens, Thursday morning, July 14, 1842. • " Sir,-1 found your letter of yesterday's date lying upon my table on my arrival at home in the evening, at half-past 11 o'clock. "In answer to your application to assist you in detecting the author of the letter in the Jlorning Chronicle, headed ' More Tory Loyalty,' and signed with the letter 'M.,' I have to assure vou that I have not the most remote idea who was the writer of that letter, and that I was not in any way privy to the publication of it. At the same time, I feel it right to state, that the report in that letter of the words used by you, in the conversation which passed between us upon the occasion referred to, is substantially correct. " I am, your obedient servant, " CRAVEN F. BERKELEY. " To Captain Boldero, M.P., &c. &c." " 14th July, 1842, half-past three. " Sir,—l am glad to find you have not the most remote idea who was the writer of the letter marked M.' in the Morning Chronicle, and that you were not in any way privy to the publication of it. " I have only further to say, that I did not use the words imputed to me in that letter, and that the words actually used by me in the conversation that passed between us on the occasion alluded to, are not capable in the slightest degree of bearing the construc tion there put upon them ; and that, when you state that the report of the words used by me is substan tially correct, either your memory must have failed you in a very extraordinary manner, or you are in tentionally perverting the true fact of the case. " YOur obedient servant, " H. G. BOLDERO. " My friend Mr. Mackqnzie will deliver this letter into your hands." Spring-gardens, Thursday, six o'clock, July 14. " Sir,-1 have to acknowledge the receipt of your 'letter of this day's date, which has been delivered to me by Mr. Mackenzie, and in reply, to state, that the words which you used in the conversation with me to which your letter relates were, If any man in my presence, drunk or sober, was to damn the Queen, 1 should take no notice of it—l am no eaves-dropper !' I have to add, that I copy these words from a memorandum which I wrote at the time, and which I showed to Lord Palmerston and Mr. James Howard (Malmesbury) a minute after the occurrence, and whilst the ink was yet wet, and that I am not therefore trusting to memory. " With respect to the last paragraph of your letter, viz., that I have intentionally misrepresented your words, I must at once request the withdrawal of so unfounded a charge, and I beg that all further com munication may be addressee' to my friend, Mr. Rid ley Colborne. " I am, your obedient servant, • " CRAVEN F. BERKELEY. To Captain Boldero, tkc." On Thursday evening Mr. Ridley Colborne proposed to Mr. Mackenzie that the affair should be accommo dated on the basis of the following memorandum : " Though I am still convinced that the words used in my letter were uttered by Captain Boldero, I have no hesitation in declaring that I can never have im puted any disloyal motives to Captain Boldero, not having been, as I before stated, either directly or in directly the author of the paragraph in the :Morning Chronicle." This however, being declined by Mr. Mackenzie, the meeting was immediately arranged. FROM LAST NIGHT'S GAZETTE. Commissions by the Lord Lieutenant of Surrey. Surrey Corps of Yeomanry Cavalry—V. Morris, Esq., to be Captain, vice A. Francis ; R. A. C. Austen, Gent., to be Lieutenant, July 31, 1841. DECLARATIONS OF INSOLVENCY. WILLIAM LEIGH JOLLIFFE, grocer Portsea. HENRY TRIHBEY GRAY, rope maker, Grosvenor place, Commercial-road, East. WILLIAM SA\VARD, corn merchant, Saint Leonarda's, Boulogne. BANKRUPTCIES SUPERSEDED. JOSEPH WADE. currier, Warwickshire_ DEANE SAMUEL WALKER, india rubber manufac turer, Great St. Helen's, London. BANKRUPTS. WILLIAM FLETCHER, oilman, Birmingham, to sur render, July 26, and August 26, at twelve, at the Waterloo rooms' Birmingham. Austen and Hob son , Raymond-bu:ld ings, Gray's Inn, London ; Reece, Birmingham. WILLIAM DOWNING, draper, Sheffield, July 29. and August 26, at twelve, at the Town hall, Sheffield. Wilson, Southampton-street, Bloomsbury, London ; Wilson and Younge, or Pierson, Sheffield. ED - WARD ROGERS, surgeon, Great Witley, Worcester shire. July 30, and August 26, at ten, at the White Lion Inn, Kidderminster. Benbow, Stone-buildings, Lincoln's Inn, London ; Wormall and Prichard, Stourport. CHRISTOPHER BRAYSHAW, tailor, Great Castle street,. Regent-street, July 22, and Aug. 26, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Alsager, official assignee, Birchin-lane ; Rutter and Trotter, Ely -place, Holborn. THOMAS LEDIARD, money scrivener, Cirencester, July 25 and Aug. 26, at twelve, at the King's Head Inn, Ciren cester. Mulling,. Cirencester Jones, Trinder, and Tudway, John-street, Bedford .row, London. JOHN HANFORD JACKSON, grocer, Eastwood, Not tinghamshire, July 26, and August 26, at eleven, at the George the Fourth Inn, Nottingham. Campbell and Witty, Essex-street, Strand, London ; Fox, Nottingham. EDWARD MOSS, draper, Liverpool, July 28, and August 26, at one, at the Clarendon-rooms, Liverpool. Winstanley, Manchester ; Milne, Parry, Mine, and Morris, Temple, London. ALEXANDER BOWER, banker, Manchester, August 10, at three, and August 26, at two, at the Commissioner's-rooms, !Manchester. Johnson, Son, and Weatherall, Temple, London; Iligeon and Son, Manchester. WILLIANI MILLS, innholder, Caterham, Surrey, July 26, at one, and Aug. 26, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Groom, Abehurch-lane, Lombard-street, official assignee; Dyne, Lincoln's Inn-fields; Drummond and Sons, Croydon. JOHN WESTON PALMER, grocer, Old Buckenham, Norfolk, July 23 and Aug. 26, at ten, at the Royal Hotel, Norwich. Fillett, Norwich ; Storey, Field-court, Gray's Inn, London. EDNI UND FRANCIS GREEN, merchant, Leadenhall street, July 26, and August :16, at two, at the Court of Bank ruptcy. 'l'urquand, official assignee, Copthall-buildings ; Bor radaile, King's Arms-yard. GEORGE HENRY WATSON, apothecary, Stourmount cottage, Moscow .road, BaS•swater, July 21, at half-past twelve, anti August 26, at twelve, at. the Coui tof Bankruptcy. Tur quancl, official assignee, Copthall-buildings ; Watson and Broughton, Falcon-square. DIVIDENDS. At the Court of Bankruptcy, Basingball-street. L. Bryant, coal merchant, Stamford-hill, Aug. 6, at half past twelve—lt. Speedily, commission agent, Fenchurch street, Aug. 6, at twelve—W. R. Webb, wine merchant, Knightsbridge, Aug. 6, at eleven. In the Country. W. Gibb, currier, Alnwick, Northumberland, Aug. 8, at one, at the Star Inn, Alnwick—.l. Heywood, cotton spinner, Heaton Norris, Lancashire, Aug. 22, at eleven, Commissioners'-reoms, Manchester—R. Maitin, carpenter, Beccles, Suffolk, Aug. 8, at one , at the White Lion Inn, Bcccles—J. and H. Noble, cloth finishers, Brighouse, Yorkshire, Aug. 5, at eleven, at the North Gate Hotel, Halifax—C. S. Jackson, woollen cloth mer chant, Leeds, Aug. 13, .at four, at the Commissioners'-rooms, Leeds—D. Cook, rclip . malter, Liverpool, Aug. 8, at one, at the Clarendon-rooms, LiAterpool-G. Wilson, cloth manufacturer, Lindley, Yorkshire, Aug. 9, at nine, at the Pack Horse Inn, Huddersfield—P. Brooke, grocer, Leeds, Aug. 12, at five, at the Commissioners -rooms, Leeds—W. B. Price and J. Ed wards, bankers, Shrewsbury, Aug. 9, at twelve, at the Shire hall, Shrewsbury—F. Willett, B. Willett, and R. Willett, bankers, Thetford, Norfolk, Aug. A. at on., at the Bell Inn, Thetford--H. and R. Iliklyaid, wine t., Lin colnshire, Aug. 2, at eleven, at the Angel Inn, 13rigg—J. El iott, currier, Derby, Aug. 11, at one, at the New Inn, Derby THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY MORNING, JULY 16, 1842. I—S. Lorymer, brewer, Bristol, Aug. 12, at one, at the Com mercial-rooms, Bristol. CERTIFICA TES— Ana. 5. J. May, mercer, Newport, Isle of Wight—W. H. Hopkins, currier, ‘Vorcester— W. Hersnaill, carpenter, Dover—J. Dar. by,hire and S. Pope, calico printers, Manchester—S. White head, cattle salesman, Leamington Priors, Warwickshire—J. Procter and H. Appleby, common brewers, Longport, Staf fordshire—A. and J. Phillips, window glass cutters, White chapel-road—W. Bower, cotton spinner, Wilmslow, Cheshire — R. Rogers, linen draper, Hoxton--T. and W. Styan, tea brokers, Great Tower-street.. PARTNERSHIPS DISSOLVED. J. Colbatch and M. Ridley, hotel-keepers, Brighton—J. Colbatch, Ni. Ridley, and H. James, wine merchants, Brighton —F. G. Chappell and R. Hodges, linen drapers, Seymour street—H. Herbert arid J. Watkins, cheesemongers, Bristol— J. Bowden and J. P. Clapham, ship owners, Kiegsten-upon- Hull—J. Downes, sen., J. Downey, jun , and C. G. Hill, wholesale tea dealers, Laurence Pountney-lane—J. G. Mans fordand T. Barter, surgeons, Bath—J. Rock and H. Baxter, coach builders, Hastings—W. Allen, J. Allen, and J. Allen, merchants, Manchester (so far as regards J. Allen )—J. Lock wood, sen., W. Lockwood, and J. Lockwood; jun., file manufac turers, Sheffield (so far as regards J. Lockwood ) — B. Drewry, J. Drewry, and T. Drewry, joiners, Nottingham—J. Harvey and E. Chick, maltsters, Sidmouth, Devonshire—J. Green shields, A. Duranz, and R. Still, merchants, Liverpool (so far as regards R. Still)—M. Warburg and W. Dieseldorff, mer• chants, Little Tower-street, City—Sir M. Wood, B. Wood, G. Field, and W. Wood, hop merchants. Mark-hoe (so far as regards Sir 1%1. Wood)—J. and B. Gibbons ' iron masters, Rrierley-hill, Stafford s hire—J. a n d A. Hodgkinson, corn dealers, Chorley, Lancashire—J. M‘Nieoll and H. Tinker, en gineers, Liverpool—J. Horton and J. Turner, boot manufac turers, Stafford—S. and B. Thompson, wax tallow chandlers, Brewer-street, St. James's—J. F. Marston, R. Nobles, and S. Matthews, cork manufacturers, Liverpool (so far as regards J. F. Marston)—C. Bleaden sand H. Chunk's, hotel keepers, Southend, Essex—F. and J. Floyd, farmers, Greenwich—J. Hook and G. Cole, carpenters, Westbury, Gloucesters ! iire'—W. Betenson and W. Rundle, lime burni-rs, St. German's, Corn wall—J. Underwood and T. Halls, linen drapers. Colehester J. Adshead and R. Scott, h os i ers , Manchester—J. Hardy and R. Barker, colliers, Manchester—J. J. Btamah, C. Fox, and J. Henderson, engineers, Harborne, near Birmingham (so far as regards J. J. Bramah)—J. Herron and E. Emery, ware housemen, Lad-lane, City—J. Williams, M. S. Grigg, and W. U. Hawker, spirit dealers,. Plymouth—J. Rotton and J. Scholetield, brassfounders, Birmingham. SCOTCH SEQUESIMAT,IONS. JOHN RAE, innkeeper, Whitburn, July 20 and Aug. 10, at one, at the Chambers of R. Gardner, Bathgate. ' JOHN FRASER, bookseller, Glasgow, July 19 and Aug. 9, at two, at the Chambers of W. Meikleham, Glasgow. ANDREW BOUSIE, writer. St. Andrew's, July 22 and Aug. 19, at twelve, at the Black Bull Inn, St. Andrew's. DAVID MORE and JOHN LAMB, wrights, Cowcad dens, Glasgow, July 2l and Aug, 18, at two, at the Office of Kerrs and Anderson. Glasgow. JACOB DIXON EDGAR, merchant, Castle Douglas, July 21 and Aug. 12, at one, at the Commercial Inn, Dumfries. ALEXANDER EMSLIE, tavern keeper, Edinburgh, July 21 and Aug. IS, at two, at Young's Tavern, Edinburgh. JOHN MILLAR and CO., merchants, Edinburgh, July 20 and Aug. 18, at twelve, ai she Ship Tavern, Edinbiaigh. J. WALLACE and CO., manufacturers, Glasnow, July 21 and Aug. 11, at twelve, at the Office of T. C. Young, Glasgow. PRICE OF SUGAR. The Average Price of Brown or Musewado Sugar, computed from the Returns made in the Week ending July 12, 1842, is 365. fid. per cwt., exclusive of the Duties of Customs paid or 'payable thereon on the importation thereof into Great Britain. • IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, July 15. . The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Wool sack at Four o'Clock. The Bri ish Possessions Abroad Bill was read a third time and passed. The Dublin University Right of Voting Bill was read a third time and passed. THE QUEEN'S PROTECTION BILL. The LORD - CHANCELLOR, in moving the second reading of the Bill for the bettor protection of the person of the Sovereign from violence, said he need not remind their Lordships of the feeling with which the Bill was received by their Lordships, when it was proposed to their Lordships for the first reading, nor of the feeling with which it was passed by the other House of Parlia ment—(Hear, hear)—nor did he doubt that it would be met with equal feeling by the country at large.—(Hear, hear.) Unfertunately, experience had given proof of the necessity for this Bill.—(Hear.) The object of the Bill was to al!er and amend the laws relating to attacks upon the person of the Sovereign, tending to cause her destruction, or to maim or otherwise injure her. The Act of the 25th of Edward the Third was directed against attacks upon the person of the Sovereign, tending to destroy him. 'The Act of the 36th of George the Third extended the provisions of that, Bill to attacks upon the Sovereign's person, tend ing to maim or otherwise injure ; and by the 39th of George the Third alterations were made in that Act. Their Lordships were aware that by an Act of William 111. (in consequence of the severity with which persons convicted of high treason had been dealt with in the previous reign), to throw a greater protection round the life of the subject than the previous law afforded, by that Act, certain forms were required for the trial of persons accused of high treason. These forms chiefly respected the notice of trial, the service of the indictment, and lists of witnesses and jurors. The object of the present Bill was to provide for remedies in cases of attack upon the person of the Sovereign, similar to those which were provided in cases of attack upon the person of a subject. The life of the Sovereign was more valuable than that of any other • individual, and when the So vereign was a Queen, such attacks were more dan gerous, on account of the necessity of her being so much exposed, and on account of other cir cumstances, which their Lordships would understand. The Bill, therefore, provided fir cases of violence not tending to the death of the Sovereign, or to maim or wound her, or other acts of violence. It provided that they should be punished by transporta tion for a t e rm of years, or by three years' imprisonment, with whipping, or other corporal punishment, as the Court should think fit. He concluded by moving that the Bill be read a second time. Viscount MELBOURNE, after the statement made by the Noble and Learned Lord on the Woolsack—a statement short and at the same time pithy—after what was known to their Lordships, and to the whole country, it was seriously necessary for him to say . that he gave to the Bill his most cordial approbation— (Hear, hear)—and he thought there could not be "any difference of opinion respecting it, in either House of Parliament, or in the country. — (Hear.) He agreed with the Noble and Learned Lord as to the importance of the life of the Sovereign, and the greater danger to whi c h it was ex p ose d than that of any other individual—and he said this without reference to the age or sex of the Sovereign, or any cir cumstances peculiarly calli ng f or l o y a lty andattachment. Lord COTTENHAAI considered that some of the provisions of this Act might possibly be miscon strued into an inference that it was intended to aflbct in the slightest degree the statutes directed against high treason, or misprision of treason. He wished that it should be generally, distinctly known there was nothing whatever in this Act which altered the present law, and that any one who imagined or compassed to destroy the life of the Sove reign, was as much guilty of high treason after the pas sing of the present Act as before it. It was not pretended to mitigate the penalties now in force against high treason, but to provide punishment in cases which were beyond the operation of the present Statute as applicable to high treason, and to accord punishment upon delinquents whose crime did not amount to high treason. Lord BROUGIIAM said he cordially agreed in the object of the Act before their Lordships. He thought the course Parliament was aow pursuing most un objectionable in the present case. He was a great enemy to introducing general alteration of the law in particular and isolated emergencies, because he was aware that such a course had the effect of inducing an alteration in the law with a view to special circumstances, and prevent ing attention to all the circumstances which ought to be considered. HA also objected to general alterations in the laws which tended to render them more severe than they had been before ; but the alteration proposed in . this Bill he considered to be based upon the soundest principles of legislation, and was absolutely necessary, in consequence of the law not being enough to meet thwe cases which occurred, as,his Noble Friend had truly remarked, from motives which it was impossible to divine. It appeared to him that their Lordships were justified in giving concurrence to a measure for prevent ing acts thus tending to create alarm both in the Sove reign and the country. He agreed with his Noble and Learned Friend who spoke last, that nothing in the pre sent Bill at all lessenel the severity which the law now attached to treason, or misprision of treason. He sug gested the propriety of a proviso to the following ef fect :—That nothing contained in this Act should be admitted or taken to alter in any way the punishment already by law inflicted on acts of high treason or mis prison of high treason. He fully agreed in the terms so powerfully and eloquently used by the Noble Lord with reference to the universal interest taken by the . whole community in the life and safety of the Queen — (Loud cheers)—and if he wante:l—he could not say an example, but a sad subject for reflection, he would look across the Channel to see the lamentable and truly me lancholy misfortune which had befallen the French na ttnresowarescwenttlaylam(m)nantbhisingsuilinjetchte h w e ho w le ou o l f d th s is a j e , m t p h i a re t who did rest from the bottom of his heart deeply sym pathise in that afflicting event. The Bill was then read a second time. The Standing Orders were suspended, and the House went into Committee. Lord CAMPBELL need hardly say that he entirely concurred in every word which had fallen from his Noble and Learned Friend, and in all the principles and objects of the Bill. He had risen, however, humbly to propose an amendment to the Bill. As the Bill now stood, they, were required to prove that an attempt had been made, that the piece had actually been tired or the stone thrown. He (Lord Campbell) thought it was necessary to provide for cases where the attempt had not actually been made. The amendment which ho had to propose was as fol lows, and was to be inserted in the third line from the bottom of the second page :—" Or, if any person shall, in the presence of the Queen, wilfully produce, or have, any gull, pistol, or other description of tire-arms, or any other arms whatsoever, or any explosive, destructive, or danger jUS matter whatsoever, with intent to use the same to injure the person of the Queen, or to alarm her Majesty, he, shall be guilty of a high misdemeanour." He hoped this amendment would meet with the approba • tion of his Noble and Learned Friend opposite (the Lord Chancellor); as it was not his (Lord Campbell's) intention fthwess it in opposition to his Noble Friend's desire. The LORD CHANCELLOR did not see any objee. tion to the amendment just proposed, which was then agreed to. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE suggested that a clause should he inserted providing for the punishment 0 per ,ons w:I(• Pci!a;k:, or in (ALT ‘N.I) z, mtra d t; . . _ The Bill was reliurted to the House with araeutiments. On the motion that the Bill do pass, The Duke of WELLINGTON rose to congratulate their Lordships upon the unanimity which had ma,ni .ested itself on the present occcasion. He was convinced it would give the greatest satisfaction, not only in the nighest quarter, hut throughout the whole country. — (Hear, hear.) It was' with very deep regret that 11- heard of the misfortune which had happened in a neighbouring country, and he was sure they would all concur with him in expressing great concern and grief at the melancholy event.—t . Hear.) The Bill then passed. MINES AND COLLERIES BILL. The Bishop of GLOUCESTER presented a petition from the inhabitants of Westminster in favour of this Bill. NATIONAL EDUCATION (IRELAND). Lord CARBERY presented several petitions from .various places in Ireland, complaining of the manner in which the grant for national education in Ireland was appropriated. The Earl of CLINCARTY would take advantage of the presentation of those petitions of the Noble Lord to draw their Lordship.' attention to the seventh Report of the Commissioners of Education, in which, after stating that they had established a model farm at Glasniven, they declared that no assistance would be afforded to any institutions, in the way of agricultural instruction, unless they were in conncc:ion with some elementary national school. If that rule were acted on, many persons in Ireland would be deprived of the benefit of the model farm. He approved of the institution of the model farm,: but he did nut approve of the benefit being con fined to institutions (=meted with the national schools. He did not think that the Commissioners of Education ought to have the inoaopOly of the Parliamentary grant, and he considered tha granting of public money for the purpose of instruction in husbandry and agriculture, was an invasion of the province of the Royal Dublin Society, which was incorporated for the specific purpose of pro moting instruction ia arts, agriculture, and manufactures. He hoped their Lordships would not allow the thirst for agricultural education, which now prevailed, to be made a means of forcing on the people any particular system of religious or literary education. The present system bad not been succesaful, it had not given satisfaction to either Roman Catholics or Protestants. Ho therefore hoped that if the Parliament chose to grant any additional sum for the education of the Irish pour, it would be on a sys tem more liberal and extended than the present, which placed the Established Church in the position of a dis senting body. Lord CLONCURRY said, that under the old system \, of education the children s. ere taught to detest the reli gion of their parents. In consequence of that, a satiety was established in Dublin, and he (Lord Clencurry) was one of the first subscribers, for the purpose of introducing a new system of education. The present system was supported by the heads of the Church in Ireland, and by the majority of the people. This they would see by the returns on the table. They owed the people of Ireland a large debt of education, as they had made it a capital punishment for teachers to instruct the people, and this continued for upwards of half a century. Lord MONTEAGLI?, said, in the speech of the Noble Earl (Clancarty) he bad divided the subject into two questions ; the question of the agricultural schools and the national schools. Nothing was more important than an agricultural education to the people of Ireland. He was sure that the Government, in introducing that edu cation, would endeavour to do so in the most practicable manner possible. If their national schools required al teration an their principle, which he did not believe they did, let the.:: alter the principles ; but if they set up Pro testant schools in Ireland, he would say that they would railer every national vhoot now established a distinct )man Catholic school. (The Noble Lord was here in terrupted by the announcement of a message from the Commons.) PROTECTION TO HER MAJESTY. The message from the Commons announced that they had agresd to the amendmonts to the Bill entitled " Au Act for further providing for the security and protection of her Majesty." The message also - brought up, the Military- Savings Bank Bill, Witnesses Indemnity Bill, and a variety of other Bills. Lord MO - NTEAG LE continued—When Sir Robert Peel was Secretary for Ireland, he recoil' vended the necessity of bringing together all classes of the cmitnu nity in one common school. Many of the Noble Lords who were in favour of this double education, complained of the College of Maynooth ; but what would they say if every one of the schools now in existence should be come a little Maynooth ? He was strongly of opinion that no grant should be allowed towards the establish ment of these schools, as the present national schools were open alike to Protestants and Catholics. The Archbishop of ARMAGH stated that the reading of the Scriptures was forbidden in the national schools in Ireland, and that was a strong reason why Protest ants objected to send their children to those schools. They did not mix at all. In Armagh there was one Protestant and one Roman Catholic national school ; in Drogheda there were five national schools, and there was not a single Protestant at one of them. Ho did not know what the Protestant religion had done that they should not have Protestant schools in Ireland ; and he did hope that the Government would take measures to establish Protestant. schools in that country. The Earl of WICKLOW supported the prayer of the petition. He was firmly convinced that the present sys tem would nut afford a united education, which was in tended should be the case when the schools were esta blished. The Earl of CLONCURRY explained. The Bishop of NORWICH was of opinion that there was a fallacy in the statement of his Right Reverend Friend that the Scriptures were not admitted into the national schools in Ireland. :He had carefully examined the books used in the schools in Ireland and England, and lie believed as large a portion of the Scriptures was to be found in use in the Irish as could be in the English national schools. NEW SOUTH WALES BILL. • The Duke of BUCCLEUCH rose to move the second reading of this Bill, and, in doing so. he should trouble their Lordships with • a very few observations on the nature of it. The Noble Duke went into lengthened details of the progress' of the colony in population and wealth, from which he contended that it was entitled to, and that its necessities required a legislature for local affairs, with power to make laws not contrary to the laws of England.—(Hear.) The Noble Duke having given an outline of the proposed Constitution, the greater part of the details of which had been taken from the Canada Act, recently passed, moved that the Bill be real a second time. Lord MONTEAGLE said, the Bill had been recom mended by Sir Richard Bourke, who had for so many years governed the colony in a manlier which reflected the highest honour on him, and was, therefue, entitled to the greatest attention. He trusted that the system of emigration would attract the particular attention of the Government. The manufacturing population constituted a most valuable class of emigrants. He congratulated the colony of New South Val' s upon the introduction of this measure. The Earl of RIPON was glad to hear that his Noble Friend approved of the Bill before the House, which ho (Lord Ripon) concurred with him would be of the greatest benefit to that great colony. The emigration was annually increasing.. After a few words from the Duke of BUCCLEUCH in reply, and Lord MONTEJ.GLE in explanation, the Bill was read a second time. MINES AND COLLIERN:S BILL. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY presented eight petitions from the parish of Dean, in the county of Lancashire, praying that the age of ten might be sub stituted for fifteen as the acre under which boys should not be permitted to work in the mines. SUDBURY DISFRANCHISEMENT BILL. The. Marquis of CI # A.NRJCARDE gave notice that he should move the second 'reading of this Bill on Friday next, • MINES AND COLLIERIES BILL. The House went into Committee on this Bill. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said as it was his desire to gain time, and he had been told that this Bill should be re-committed, he should move the ad journment of the House. Lord HATHERTON did not object to the adjourn. ment. The Earl of DEVON did not object. The Bill passed through Committee pro forma, and was ordered to be re-committed on Tuesday next. CIIARITABLE PAWN-OFFICES (IRELAND) BILL. This Bill was ordered to be read a third time on Tues day next. The other Bills on the tahie were forwaraed a stitge f and their Lordships adjourned at Eight &C lock, _MOUSE OP COMMONS', fdq 15 The SPEAKER took the Chair at the usu hour. Mr. M. GIBSON presented a petition from the shop keepers of Matichester, cOMplainitig of the loss of their trade, and praying the House to pass such measufe3 as would afford immediate and permanent relief . . Mr. PLUMPTRE presented petition§ frUni Staopi and other places, praying tile tintisn not to make any further grant to the College of Maynooth. Sir H. DOUGLAS presented a petition from the to bacconists of Liverpool, against the Tobacco bill. Mr. LABOUCHERE presented a petition from the members of a congregation of Protestant Dissenters, as sembling in Tuxford, Cambridgeshire, in favour of the Affirmation Bill. Colonel T. WOOD presented a petition praying the House to abolish the tolls for the several bridges► Mr. EWART gave notice that on Thursday he would move for a copy of certain correspondence` with the Board of Trade relative to the effect of admitting Brazilian sugar. Mr. HUME. gave notice that he would, on Monday, on the motion for the Speaker leaving the Chair, move for a return of promotions in the Navy, including Ad mirals, Captains, and Officers of every r a nk, s i nce t h e 29th of June, 1838, being a continuation of former returns. THE TARIFF—CEMENT STONE. Mr. LABOUCI-lERE said he might be allowed to take that opportunity of putting a question to the Right Hon. Gentleman the Vice-President of the Board of Trade, on a subject to which he had already called hi,, attention—he alluded to the export duty upon cement stone. The effect of the alteration made by the tariff would be to destroy a trade which gave empl oy ment to a vast number of industrious per •ons. He wished to know whether the Right Honourable Gentleman had made those returns which he had promised on the , subject ; and also whether he proposed to adopt any measure for remedying the grievance. There was another point to which he also wished to call the Right Hon. Gentleman's attention, namely, whether, in case he should be satisfied that it was proper to alter the existing duty, it would not be expedient to advise the Treasury to take stops to provide tha' the trade. .houlcl M T. r. GA.OSTONE ;i!1,1 the case to-which -the •RiT,“ G,othnoan Wa3 a Very . , inasmuch as the proposal to lay a duty upon the article I ,if cemented stone, was printed and on the table of the douse three months, without its attracting - the notice ,ither of any Mentlar connected with that part of Lri.• !vuntry where the trade was carried on, or of any Nlember interested it tl - w trade it,elf.---(Hear.) :nentioned this because it afforded a justification for re-opening the question of duty immediately after it had _been decided by the House .of Commons. On the very day after the passing of the Bill, reps,- sentations were made on the subject by the parties Nhose interests were at stake. He would .propos.; ;he removal of the export duty on cement stones. As to another part of the question, with regard to the interval between the present period and the pa .sing of the amendment Bill, he wished to explain that at pre sent it would be undesirable to interrupt the t race. The calamity which befel Harnbur:2•,h had occasioned a greater demand for cement stone, and large quantities of it were ready for export in• the port of Harwich. They had, therefore, anticipated the suggestion of the Right Hon. Gentleman, and he would now move that the House resolve itself into — a Committee of the whole House ; and would, with its permission, now move a general resolution, " That leave be given to bring in a Bill to amend the law relating to the Customs Act." On the question beingzait, Mr. HUMS wished to know from the Right Hon. Gentleman, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, what was the amount of gold and silver coin issued by the Mint since the issuing of the proclamation. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER wished (as we understood) the Honourable Member to defer his question. Mr. Ht; ME consented. Mr. B. WOOD suggested to the Right Hon. Gentlt - man, the Vice-President of the Board of Trade, the ex pediency of including China plate with cement stone. Mr. GLADSTONE saiJ that when the House wilt into Committee the Hon. Gentleman could make a pro position to that effect, but he (Mr. Gladstone) would give it his opposition, the House having already come to a decision on the subject. The House then went into Committee. Mr. LABOU'_;HERE would warn the Right Hon. Gentleman against the re-opening of this question. He would refer him to the consequences which had resulted to Sicily from their having imposed an export duty on sulphur. Mines of sulphur had been discovered in Ireland. He knew of a very respectable house in Glas gow employed in the manufacture of chemicals, and one of the firm said to him (Mr. Labouchere) it was now their intention to take half ti.eir sulphhr from Ireland and half from Sicily. Lord HOWICK expressed his entire concurrence in what had fallen from the Right Hun. Gentleman. The argument particularly applied to the recently imposed export duty on coals. The effect ef that had been to diminish the employment of labour in the collieries in that district, already suffering severe distress. After a few words from Mr. B. WOOD, the resolu tion was agreed to, and reported to the House. Leave was then given to bring in the Bill. CAPTAIN WARNER'S INVENTION. _ . . Sir F. BURDETT gave notice of his intention, on Monday, to bring forward the case of Capt. Warner. GOLD COINAGE. On the motion for going into Committee of Supply. Mr. CHARLES WOOD said he had given notice of his intention to put a question to the First Lord of .he Treasury, upon going into Commiztee of Supply, concern ' ins , the gold coinage ; but, as the Right Hon. Baronet was absent, perhaps the Chancellor of the Exchequer would give him an answer. It was a subject of considerable im• portance to the country. It would not be necessary to call to the recollection of the House the late pro clamation concerning the coinage. He thought the Government pursued a sight course, but he be lieved that a great portion of the alarm and loss occasioned by it had been canned by the suddenness of the act. He (Mr. Wood) did not know what was the stare of the law previous to the year 1774, but, since that period a law had been passed declaring that all persons had power to cut and deface light gold. In consequence of that a proclamation was issued in 1776, declaring the weight of a guinea. The conse quence of this was that there were very few light guineas in circulation, as the moment they were tendered they were marked. In the year 1797 no less than 17,000,0001. were taken to the Bank of Eng land. At the present time, the state of the law was not rightly understood. He did - not know if the Act had been repealed empowering persons to deface aid cut the gold coin. The question he wished to put was, whether it was in the power of any person at the present time to cut gold coin, and if there was any doubt on the subject, whether the Government was prepared to pass an Act empower ing persons so to do. It would certainly have the effect of keeping coin the proper weight. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he perfectly agreed with the - Hon. Gentleman that such a step was necessary, but there was a difference of opinion as to the existing law. There were two Acts passed, the one in 1773, the other in 1774, the former empowering persons to Cut and deface eoin reduced in weight. The other Act was for enabling persons to cut coin which was counterfeit. This last Act was re pealed by:the 4th Will. IV., excepting one clause. He could not give the Hon. Gentle Man an answer, as the subject was under the consideration of those who were enabled to form an opinion on the subject. DISTRESS. Mr. M GIBSON Said, that as the Right Homur able Baronet was not in his place, he should post• pone his motion relative to the shopkeepers of Manchester to another day, but he would take the liberty of putting a question to the Chancellor of the -Ex chequer. They continued to receive . from the manufacturing districts, 'nest alarming accounts of the distress. Every day brought fresh information of the distress increasing, and he wished to ask the Right Ho nourable Gentleman whether the Government had received confirmatory statements. He should also take that opportunity of saying that , the greatest disappointment was felt at the speeches deli vered by the Government on the motion of his Ho nourable Friend the Member for Wolverhamp ton with reference to the distress of the coun try. The speeches contained little less' than vagua expressions of hope that the goodness of the coming harvest would restore the prosperity of the country. He wished to ask whether the Government continued to receive fresh evidence of the dis:ress of the country ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that he had been called out of town as soon as Parlia ment was up last night, and he had but just returned, therefore he cuuld not give the Honourable Gentleman an answer. _ _ Mr. MARK PHILIPS wished to ask whether it was likely that a large quantity of corn would come through Malta to this country ; and, if so, whether such would be admitted free of duty ? Mr. GLADSTONE said he did not know if a large quantity of wheat would come to this country through Malta, but if it did it would be treated as foreign wheat. MEDICAL CHARITIES BILL. Mr. VESEY wished to ask the Noble Lord opposite whether it was his intention to press the second reading of this Bill this session. Lord ELTOT said he had no desire to press the Bill with too great haste, at the same time he' thought it was desirable the Bill should pass it as soon as possible. SUPPLY. The House the:i went into Committee of Supply, Mr. GREENE in the Chair. _ The tir6t vote prop,sed was that of 84,000/. for com penation to persons formerly employed in public offices. Mr. WILLI4MS thought that in many instances the superannuation allowances were much too great. There was one, the second on the list, a person who had 300/. a year when in service ; he retired in the fifty-seventh year of his age, and the furty-firit of his service, and his superannuation salary was 4001. He (Mr. Wil liams) would recommend that there should be a superannuated fund, to which every public officer 'should be comp'elled to contribute in proportion to the amount of his salary, and that fund, and that alone, should be the only superannuation fund to which they ought to look when they became too old for service. Sir GEORGE .CLERK supported the vote, and vindi cated the manner in which the superannuation funds were disposed of. Mr. HUME stated that the vote required this year was higher than it bad been on any previous occasion. It was a grant which got larger and larger every year. He thought the plan of superannuation defective, and suggested that the subject should be taken into consideration by the Government before next year, with the view of putting some limitations to superannuations. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that the amount was required, After a short conversation, the vote was agreed to. The next vote was a sum not exceeding 70,0001. to enable her Majesty to grant allowances to the widows of naval officers, emigrants, American loyalists, and others who were claimants on her Majesty's liberality.—The vote was agreed to after some cenversational discussion. the following votes were agreed to without discussion— : 1,1( 1 6/. to defray the expenses, &c., of the National Vac. eine Institution. B J OOOI. for the expenses of the Institution for the Refuge of the Destituio. 3,57'21. for the expend of the Criminal Lunatic Hospital. 8,8001. for allowances to Protestant Dissenters, poor French refugees, and others On the nett tote being proposed, Mr, WILLIAMS objected to that part of it which was to be applied its the Home service, on the ground that it could only be applied fit eying spies to watch the people. He would take the sense of tfig House on the subject. he Hon. Member then proposed as an amendment, that the sum of 10,00/, should he granted as secret service money, and that it Shottid ht applied Solely on the Foreign service. Mr. HUME said he objected to any money being so applied. The mlinOy was distributed amongst the syoretari:.‘ of Sten Who ware by their oaths td apply it as they tri.27 — best. He considered that a Representative Government ought to have nothing in, secret, nothing which it was not prepared to lay before the public. Ste GRAHAM said he did hot ittend to argue the policy or impolicy of having a secret fund at the disposal of the Go vernment; but he believed the Noble Lord ()Write (Lord Palmer.ten) tvr.sild bevy him out in the statement, that there was business in the Foreign Department which could not be conducted without such a protisiOrt. Lord PALMERSTON agreed with the Right Hon. Gen tleman that none of this money was applied to elec inn pur poses. With regard to the Foreign service, he was prepared to say that it could not be carried on without a sum of money at the disposal of the S ecre t ar y o f S ta t e . Dr. BO IX It 1N G said. that if no portion of this tronejikka wanted for the ,tiome Department, he was surprised that there was no reduction in the amount of money. Sir J. GRAHAM, said there was a reduction. Mr. WILLIAMS was glad that none of this money was spent for election purposes. He did net himself believe it was, but there were others who held a dffcrent opinion. lie should divide the Committee on the vote. The Committee then divided, when there appeared • For the amendment l3 Against it for the vote -114 . • •• • , . tt, Lord STANLEY moving that the Chairman report progress, •. t , and obtain leave to sit again during the eve“ing, in orde- t.ha the [louse might. receive the 11111 tor the protection of her •c a< jesty', person, wh;ch h, ukderstood was to be sent clown by thei.'. The M , s-engers frora the Lordswere 0 en called. and the Bill deLv,red. I.vvb two amenthnent: , , Atter a tevr words !rout the SOLICITOR-GENLII. were ageseii to willsout SUP 1 'ls Y. The Meese again went i n t o Cnarnittee on the vote of:' a 193.048/. for the eeeense of printing:, binding, and s talienere ' for the several Government Depat tments in S c oteeds Ireland, and the Colonies, and or prig e hag for the two Hand'. of earliament.—The vote w as agreed to. 4 , The sum of 22.0001. was then voted to defrny the c charges. Toe 'sum et 102 873/. was voted to defray the expentea 4 , the convict establishment at home and at Bermuda. 255,e001. was voted to defray the charites and expense3n7 the convict establishments °fa/sew South Wales. A vote of 23,000/. for the expenses of captive negroes an d liberated Al. leans was then agreed to of On the vote of 11,311/. being proposed for the salar ies persons employed in the care of puhlic records, Mr. H. HINDE called the attention ut the House to ha various unfinished publications of the Record Commission, a,: to the state of the work entitled " The Historians of Britain . , obiter was undertaken by . the command of his late Majesty George IV. The conducting of this work was entrusted to In° hands of the late Mr. Petrie, and one volume of it had hee_',l finished. An expense of 12,00 e/. was incurred, and he b elie,' that 3,001:1. mote would be sufficient to finish the work. Sore.' Sir J. GRAHAM ea;d the subject to which his eh Friend called the attention of the House, was one of nv-' literary and national importance. He understood that c.f .... , volume of the Ancient Historians was completed, and drat second had been left incomplete when Mr. Petrie died. would be the duty of the Government, acting with the Nees 4 : of the Public Ilecoldse :sod Sir Henry Ellis, to eon° iby whether it would not be desirable that the publication sbt s ' proceed. With respect to other publications, he should the course _pursued by the late Government, and teilon recommendltion of Lord Langdale. After a short cent:dr:atom, the vote was agreed to. sae A vote of 30,000/. for the exeenses of public educatio n Great Britain, was then proposed. Mr. EVS" , ART thought that this grant was miserably 501,1,', it was the approbrium of our estimates. Ile 'visited I ' m whether it mai the intention of the Government to move larger .urn. or to apply it on any new principle? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said ' not the intention of the Government to prorose any °T o ! sum this year ; and it would be appropriated in the manner. stir. MILNER GIBSON thought that the sum was too small. He believed also that the system of eduriationt lowed in the national scliools was most unsatisfactory. 1 .., 3 1;r F eared that few or no books were read in these sebools , ew e ! the Bible and Catechism. The Hon. Gentleman here 4' l °,, a statement of the Hon. and Rev. Baptist Noel, as to thee",be ortueate results of this system iu narrowing the minds 0 , ', a , cieldran. He was persuaded that the piau of national e°ls cation would never be placed on a proper basis until the oril eo were opened equally to child en of all persuasions, and 0,4, out of the hands of clergymen of any particular deneminallt,a, Mr. BROTHERTON also thought that the grant µ'e 9 s l too small, when they cons dered the paramount importance it , object. io Dr. BOWRING thought that the smallness of the b'ar'b, a rich anti powerful country like this was positively disgraee a ,ii He hoped that the time was at hand when it would be O • increased. Mr. PROT HEROE objected to the mode according to "' religious instruction was given undt r the present systea). e ducation. He was opposed to dividing that instruction; 04 special and general. it was most desirous that a sest i e dr es general religious instruction shoUld be given to the chi', 0 founded on the general truths of Christianity, on Ow' concurred. Mr. CHILDERS thought that the House had reesl complain th.2.= they were not furnished with the same je e r ° re' thin on this subject as the House of Lords had been. n e e( gretteil to say that, o: the three sister kingdoms, E ng latel,d far the worst educated. 6,000 or 7,000 inhabitants. a:'d other towns, there was bt,n, o t I the town of Oldham, which conta.'e'o general school for the education ef children. fie trustee ` 4 , 0 s l t i c e .m 6e o g f g e e d du t some r i ri m in p e ro n v t ,e improved n s a y the S'cretary for the Home Depart tnt.'lt, whether It ro t ight Hon. Genlr o e t o et a ti s , k re the wo ; 7ld be adopted b_ the intention of the Government to pr0,7 0, e of money to promote, in conjunction vs eu u the system of singing flow taught at Exeter-hall I test Sir J. GRAHAM said that he was surprised ; n ,00 0 the lion. Member say, that in -towns of 6,000 or 17 inhabitants, there were no schools. -Mr. CHILDERS—GeneraI schools. eloill Sir J. GRAHAM did not know what the Gentleman meant by general schools. All he coul'ltio was, that he believed that religious and moral edul, e co was given in almost every town. As to what hat' etc said respecting Oldham, nothing but the Hon. Gekote man's veracity could induce him to believe these;he meat. In answer to the Hon. Gentleman's tpleat. ° l , for had to state that Government intended only to sitting," the grant which had been given last year fur edarn,. ft none of which would be applied to those singing sch n° lo o would be for the Government to consider whethe r, p future occasion, they would bring forward any q e measure for that purpose. 11 the Mr. R. YORKE said there was no way in wh -c eeog public money could be better expended than in g' religious and moral education to the people. 1,708 Mr. IHIME had certainly expected that soree il ee would be done by the Government for the improre'llielt of national education. The lamentable state in this country was in this respect, was a reproach Woof I Legislature. When the Whigs were in power , l ie were most anxious to establish a general and e Nte . 0° system of education, bet they were opposed 14 party now in.power. The Government would do to expend the public money tea the education ° l l people than on the building of prisons, upon whicilere of 20,0001. in one place, and 20,00e1 in anotbe r eett l6 squandered. If they educated the people they a)' prevent crime, and thus do away with the fleeces' prisons. -An 1,50., An Hos. MEzereeen, whose name we cou ld n ot ,IPP suggested the propriety of Government u e ` i i i ;, : lie some cheap remedy in cases of public charities , re whea cause of dispute arose, the tends that w e - 4 , 0 queathed for the promotion of education were exl"'" on litigation in the Courts of Equity. 1 , 0 0, Mr. HARDY objected to what some Hon. Gent: e te o r e called general redgious instruction being ace`, in the schools. The instruction should be I ch er s .If they admitted sectarian as well as orthodox te" rtlt into schools they would have different interpretation: itir upon the same texts of Scripture, and those then s c ilr portant. The true object of education was to tr310,05e children so that they might in after life discharg e e jii o i duties strictly, soberly, and honestly. Such an e,boi should not be merely Secular, for persons of the h 0 t 44 secular education were often guilty of the o_4°oll crimes. Religious instruction was inseparable fPw:oolu education, and no kind of merely moral instructio n j supply its place. Mr. GIBSON said that the clergy hal been tr i found wanting. The Inspectors, who were 001004 clergymen of the Church of England, regrette d t e 'bil 3 ; netional schools there was no real eduitation. The f ren were taught nothing but the formulariet4 ,`,110.4" Church, anti be hoped the Government would ete'oele': themselves to be bound down to so hopeless and a system. fet ig c t l Sir R, ING LIS contended that no pla n ° wor! c ii tion could, according to the Constitution , be sul by grants of the public menies from the liouseeior, ts as not based upon the principles of the Estaei,A Church. He had heard the Noble Lord , t he Pr of of the Council, express opiniosis whic:e wer e incdn', with this, and which he hoped were also at varian , ' , 0 4 11 1 the opinions of the rest of her Maj,st to . '" 5, 0" he trusted would rot allow that Ntsate-Losed representative. What he consirlerd educatiell r ° h s riS":;# which was commenced in childhood, upoit ` c f, hr ie'e principles, and perfected in adult life in the 4 : j i poi* Church, under Christian ministers. He coultl e r down without expressing his gratification that " jesty's Ministers were not following the example Noble Coleaene it the head of the Council. aO iOs Sir J. GRAHAM wells' not sit in silence and hear t of t) putation cast upon his Noble Friend the Presided_o4l Council, that he held opinioni which his colleagues. ettoFti,e repudiate. His Right Hon. Friend (the Member f? r , is k w University) professed _to be the greatest lover of s oreet'o d / House, House and yet, in a manner by no means accordi e lloce s , he alluded to speeches that were made in the other omega (Cheers.) He was a supporter of the present •G oc 01P 0 and yet he took the brat means of sowing di sten sion t he t t o them, and of lessening their influence, by repre sentinV t tio at variance with each other.—(Cheers.) With 'l t O e what had been said last evening in the House of Ler f " o o ro a n President of the Council, upon a Bill sent uP et" House, he would say that his colleagues agre c l' oc e t e e with his Noble Friend and when the Bla f t % with the amendments proposed in the Rouse,' int last night, it should have his support.—(ehee'irei tlO f Hon. Baronet had - alluded to what had fall re "e'' s e °, an i s Noble Friend the President of the Council, and 11. 5 0 p eo„ the sentiments of his Noble Friend were contrary es),,totn,`,f the Established Church. He (Sir James Gr'aWal'.,\ s ee s only observe that his Noble Friend had uttered those 'l3 l ' c oo in the presence of the Primate of all England, of th` . oe l 4 cl London, and of the whole bench of Bishops, and 'f * have reference to any passage of that speech whi c 'e e) trary to the doctrines of the Established Church , t'", ?F ide, 1, no doubt at once have repudiated t hem.—( Cheers- )„ 0 however, the Hon. Baronet the Member for Oxford,; himself as a more efficient and better guardian of t fih e e Olje than the Bishops themselves.—(A laugh.) green p ri g Baronet had throughout his speech dealt in vagu e ti.j e ee ee r and he had vet to learn what specific objection thewits liarencet had to make to that speecie—e Hear.) ..rat 0 the to the subject ot education, he would say, that it . ct , t tats` tention of the Government to adhere on that su b r trot t t o t minute of Council of 1839.—(Cheers.) It Ka t 5• s minute had been passed by their po l it i cal opn°7-01040 should not be forgotten that it bail been pa , " f e. might be called a defeat—that it W3S the result ' he late, raise, the terms of which had been dictated to t it 01 e l bt vernment by their political opponents—that f' tbe 6 , 0 i; measure of the Opposition which now constitutee, Y ..,$ ,0 1 ment.—( Cheers. ) The Archbishop of Canter° l , e lethi` i ", t Bishop of London were parties to it. The 3 „,P r i c ebio Wi e el, s e. inspectors was subj• ct to the veto of the " , t eell jte Canterbury. To the provisions of that minet e e ' r ) 0 t Government were determined to adhere.—(C he t e s ede t o t the p :oeistous of that minute, no grant could b , : ov er s n o , 0 the- t eat e classes as Exeter Hall ; and if her Majesty e ls '„,p should deem it arliament 0 0 , distinct application r"'ell,l be . made to r roe e xpedienr to propose a grant t for oh rive estimate would be P `,06 1 pose, and a s upplernenta. , . seder o n on t regularly ts ee .dutt i or o tarty b s e, u 2 b se j subject t i si k o e ul u d ou t7 ,, b o r t, ("CiLitinmens would, be §l3"_, subject. —(Chr ers.) If he were esisec, l classes, b e f t bet!, nitro on the setsiect of Mr. Belle: roved owe, Music was an inn- ,cent and a moral recreate). c _ uid , y e oths _ have no heshatiee in saying, that be ,I , r en d .be 46 , 1 . ment more desirable for the working thereclasse for e wir e r vied. In addition to the singing classes a,,r.on, eitisses, one for arithmetic, one for weitin% ; ° llos.i 6 e re,wing. N , w. he could no! irnag'" e ', s et Ins , ele - pr e teriath i o than these three cia,ses. d i ng the-eber use Sete 00 ' artisans.—( Hear. ) , .e. He said no! Tee persons fon . re II , C were adults an.. • him with speaking as I )er tbe'' ee k, Montrose had taunted . Th. , f h e vel e be .. e lon. Mew _ c a to oop restraint. He could assere ric l e acq e ` ar, ) under no restraint, and that Ire nae, klY.'" ( 1 I".°P° Aft' Ise Member had said that the Go v v .z e te le tn e: D ees. e enersl 22, he always endeavoured to speak , f r ra! eat ought,".°lo,esv n t .ri g ate!'. scheme—some .„ • ' sre".l` aL , earl" del irr • • etieet. eee , e the i r r eetenit 3 9 Their p len was t o tuaten tee tee., tuns (1 %; A] , 5.... 1], K on R ies, lel.' 17 4 ' T Y, t] 1 I,