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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS—YESTERDAY. EAST INDIA COUNCIL, Scc., BILL, 'On clause 2, Mr. AYRTON moved the following amendment : Add to clause 2, " the repeal of the act sth and 6th Wil liam IV., chap. 52, and of sections 15, 16, 17, and 19 of the act 16th and 17th Victoria, chap. 95, in order to revive the act 3d and 4th William IV., chap. 85, for establishing Governments at Calcutta and Agra. The amendment was one very simple in form, but the question involved in it was one of the very highest importance to the Government and people of India. He should almost think it necessary to apologise to the house for bringing forward the subject, were it not that the reproach had been frequently thrown out that the House of Commons was in the habit of slurring over Indian questions. He (Mr. Ayrton) had always been an advocate of the proposal that the Secretary of State for India should be met face to face by an efficient council. That measure had been adopted, and they were now reap ing the fruits of it. One of the very first questions which stared them in the face was whether they could have an efficient government in India at all so long as it rested upon its present footing. The hon. member for Birmingham had repeatedly said it was absolutely necessary that the first step taken should be to provide distinct local governments, and to see that they had not too large an amount of terri tory to preside over. To this view he (Mr. Ayrton) entirely assented. When he was in India he never heard any other opinion. The people of India, in their loss to assign a rea son for the present system, were obliged to take refuge in an imputation, and they said it was in order that the whole administration should be in the hands of the Calcutta clique, to the great prejudice of the affairs of India. Now, the Ben gal provinces contained a population of 37,000,000 of per sons, subject to a distinct government known as the govern ment of the regulation provinces. Besides these there was a population of 3,000,000 in what were called the non-regu lation provinces. According to his conception the differ ence was this—that in the regulation provinces there was law—every one had legal rights, and knew to whom to ap peal for the purpose of defending them. But the non-re gulation provinces were an unhappy district, which the Government had pronounced to be unfit to enjoy any sys tem of established jurisdiction, beyond the despotic rule of the Governor-General. There, there was no established law ; and no man could say he had any rights at all except at the will of the Governor-General. No doubt the absolute power of the Governor-General was to some extent modified by the wisdom of successive Govern ments, but the principle remained the same. Thus there were 40,000,000 of people in the Bengal provinces, which yielded also a gross revenue of nearly £13,000,000 sterling. Now he contended that whatever might be the ability, or the assumed or imagined ability, of any man in India, it was quite enough for one man to rule over 40,000,000 of people, and to manage £13,000,000 of revenue . (Hear, hear.) The interests of the people and of good government re quired that these provinces alone should be made a separate and distinct administration. He would now pass to the north-west provinces. They had there a population of 30,000,000 of people in the regulation provinces, and of 3,000,000 in the non-regulation provinces, with a revenue of £5,700,000. Here was a charge so extensive as to de mand the undivided care and responsibility of a separate government. It would be an argument if it could be shown that these subdivisions themselves were greater than the existing presidencies. Madras was said to contain 20,000,000 of people in the regulation provinces and 2,500,000 in the non-regulation provinces, with a revenue of £6,500,000. Bombay had 9,000,000 of inhabitants in the regulation and 2,700,000 in the non-regulation provinces, and its revenue was £7,200,000. If, with such populations and revenues as these, it had been found necessary to have these two Govern ment:, of Madras and Bombay, it was quite obvious that in the a ise of a population of double the amount, with a revenue nearly double, it was equally necessary and more desirable. Let not the committee suppose that nothing would be left for - the administration of the Governor-General. He would stiti retain a large amount of power and duty. Ile would still have to look after many millions of people, and a large amount both of direct and indirect revenue belonging to the native states. But such was the love of power that they had been unable to get the Government to consent to the estab lishment of this native Government, on the ground that it would interfere with the free action of theGovernor-General. Parliament, however, was invited to consider this subject, when it made the most comprehensive and searching inves tigation that had ever taken place into the administration of Indian affairs—he meant before renewing the charter in 1834; and the result of all that investigation and the deli beration that ensued upon it was, that it would contribute to the good government of India at once to establish two distinct governments upon the basis of the governments of Bombay and Madras—one for Calcutta and the north western provinces, and the other for Bengal and Agra. That was the deliberate judgment of Parliament at that time, and it was embodied in the statute, which contained all the requisite provisions for carrying it into effect. But after a year or two the subject was considered in Calcutta, and a despatch was written, which was laid upon the table of the house, suggesting that it would be undesirable to carry that act into effect. He had read the discussions - which led to that conclusion, and had been struck by the - want of reason for giving effect to that which was the deli berate legislation of the House of Commons. From that day to this, however, the operation of the act had been sus pended, and what he desired the house now to do was to put an end to that suspension. If there had been difficulties in the way of carrying the act into effect, they rather arose from the position of the Government having to deal with a Court of Directors and Board of Control, from having a civil service in India, which was the child of the Court of Directors, and from the state of the army, which was in the last degree unsatisfactory. But the alteration that had now been made in the home administration, in the civil service, and in the administration of the army, had entirely removed all the difficulties which were then suggested in the way of giving effect to the act of Parliament. He did not be lieve there was any real objection to the act now coming into operation, and that being the case, the great question came before them whether it was not their imperative duty to provide for a population of 40,000,000 an efficient local administration—whether they ought to leave such a population the sport of circumstances, as they had done during the last 27 years of their Indian administration. Hitherto these people had been left to the casual rule of a lieutenant-governor—they had never had the advantages that other presidencies had had of having regular governors sent from this country, but had been placed in an inferior category, which he believed had been very prejudi cial to the interests of their inhabitants. In order that the provinces should be well governed it was necessary that they should not have a person directly taken out of their own body to govern them, but that they should have an hide pendent British ruler sent out from this country. However able a man !eight be in the civil service of Bengal, when he was taken from the local administration and placed directly in the office of Lieutenant-Governor, he did not assume the government under conditions that were favourable to sound administration, but rather under conditions most unfavour able to an efficient: administration, and the maintenance of that authority and influence which he ought to possess. If there had been a British governor in Bengal, the same as in Bombay or M a d ras , h e did no t b e li eve t h ey wou l d h ave heard e word of th ose indigo transactions, which had been se anxideplorable in their result s . At a t i me w h en we were so made ct o u a st i h v a e t f ßritish en t erpr i se should go to India and be or the Purpose of promotingindustry the of the natives, it wa s the b.aundenduty of the Ifouse of Commons to consider well what was necessary to promote the resort of British subjects to India' to place th e a d m i n i s t ra ti on of affairs in such a positiona a s n t ogive greater confidence to - W British capitalists. hat was necessarygoodgovern ment vernment i n Ben gal, and he considered that th e Governog General had u f ficient to do in attending to general affairs. A n d he thought that his amendment was necessary for the due carrying of the policy of this bill, because it was thought desirable out that the Governor-General should not b e fi xed at Bengal, Calcutta, or Agra, but should be at libertyto served go where he by the pleased, an object which would be greatly esta blishment of these local councils. There was only one other point to which he wished to refer in support of his motion, and that was the great commerce of Bengal even :as com pared with Bombay and Madras. The exports of Bengal were year by year increasing, and had now attained a mag nitude which a few years ago none could have anticipated, and with these great interests involved, he placed the ques tion before the right hon. gentleman as one of paramount importance. Every one with whom he had conversed upon the subject acquiesced in the necessity of the step. Terrified indigo planters looked upon it as essential for the protection of their interests; the natives had always demanded it; the personal interests of the civil service they were no longer to be governed by as the first consideration in regulating the affairs of India. Military interests were also now made subservient to the interests of the nation, and he trusted the right hon. gentleman would give his consideration to the matter, and upon Pis own responsibility propose the re peal of the suspending acts that had been passed, and give to these great populations that which was a necessary con dition of their future good govet nment, and which he be lieved was absolutely necessary if they did not want a re currence of those proceedings ending in mutinies such as they had had before. He proposed in line 19 to add the words " the repeal of the act sth and 6111, Will. IV, cap. 52, and of sections 15, 16, 17, and 19 of the act 16th and 17th Viet., cap. 95." Sir C. WOOD said it was difficult to gather from the speech of the hon. gentleman what his proposal was, and how far it differed from the clause of the bill. The hon. gentleman considered it essential to have a local adreinietra , tive council in Bengal and a fixed governor. Now, there had been for the last eight or nine years a fixed Lieutenant- Governor of Bengal, the executive government of Bengal had been separated from the government of India, and this bill proposed to give them a separate legislative council. The difference, then, between the proposal in the bill and that of the hon. gentleman simply amounted to this, that instead of a lieutenant-governor appointed by the Governor-General, and who was always a civil servant in India, there should h e a governor, who might or might not be a civil servant, sent out from this country. The observations of the hon. gentleman Principally referred to having a local administra tion as distinguished from the general administration of In dia, and therefore the general tenor of the Speech had been in support oft it stood. (Hear, hear.) He entirely concurred gentleman that there should be a separate administration, and when he had the honour of being President of the Board of Control, by the bill of 1853 he provided for the appointment of Lieutenant-Governor of Bengal. He did not think he need follow the hon. gentle man in his comments with regard to non-regulation pro vinces, but he believed that many of the non-regulation pro vinces had been very admirably administered. They might take as an instance the administration of Oude, which in two years had been reduced from a scene of bloodshed and war to be as tranquil as any part in India, and to the Pun jaub, where the administration of civil servants after the annexation in two or three years produced similar results. He conceived that it was most desirable that the Governor- Generai should be relieved from the local cares of a portion of India, and should be able to devote his attention more exclusively to those general questions in which there was ample scope for any amount of exertion and ability he might possess, but that also was an object which would be served by this bill. With the ceneral view of the hon• gentleman he entirely agreed, but he was not prepared to take upon himself at present to re-establish in Bengal and the north-western provinces governors upon the same foot ing as the presidencies of Madras and Bombay. He did not mean to say that the time might not come when such a mea sure would be expedient, but there had been a good deal of reference in these discussions to the finances of India, and he was not prepared at present to impose any new charge upon the revenue of India which was not necessary for the due administration of its affairs. The staff of a governor would necessarily be more expensive than that of a lieute nant-governor. And this question could not be considered without reference to the moro important question of the transfer of the Government from Calcutta to some other part of India. He wrote to the Governor-General to suggest to him whether the course now recommended by the hon. gentleman would be desirable, and his reply was this :—He said he was not prepared to say that it was a proposal to be at all times negatived, but that we should not at present go beyond what was proposed in the bill, namely, to give the Government of Bengal power to summon natives to aid in the administration. If the Governor-General were to sit with his Council in Calcutta, and the Governor of the Pre sidency to sit with his council also, there would be two in dependent authorities; jealousies would arise, and that he thought was a great objection to the proposition. But if the seat of Government were taken away from Calcutta, he thought it should be fixed in some central place where there was no governor. (Hear.) He did not think they were ripe for that yet. Concurring with the hon. gentleman in the expediency of having a separate executive and legislative authority in Bengal, which was provided for in the bill ; concurring with him also in the expediency of a separate government for the north-western provinces, he was not prepared to go the length of repealing these clauses, which suspended the power of creating separate presidencies in Bengal and Agra, the effect of which would be to constitute these in the same manner as the presidencies of Bombay and Madras were constituted. Having consulted with the Council he came to the conclusion that for financial and po litical reasons it was not desirable to take a step of so much importance at present. He hoped the hon. gentleman would not press his motion to a division. Mr. DANBY SEYMOUR said he agreed in much that had been said by the hon. member for the Tower Hamlets, but his amendment would more properly come on when the 44th clause was under discussion. He believed it would be of great advantage to have more councils in India. Both Malcolm and Metcalfe recommended that there should be a governor of Central India. It would accustom the natives to our rule if councils existed composed of half natives and half Europeans, where matters relating to the improvement of India could be discussed in common. He believed that by the 15th and 16th sections of the act of 1853 the Secre• tary of State for India, who succeeded to the authority of the Court of Directors, had the power of making a governor at present. Sir C. WOOD said his impression was that he had power under the 16th clause to appoint a person who was not a member of the civil service ; but if the Governor-General appointed a lieutenant-governor, he should be a member of that service. Lord STANLEY said it seemed to him that the question as between a governor and a lieutenant-governor turned very much on whether there was a European population resident in the district. Where there was only a native population he thought that a lieutenant-governor was the best. There fore in the Punjaub and the North-Western Provinces he believed it was best to have a person that had been trained up in the Indian service. But where there was a European population the case was different. The habit of dealing with the native population was not the best school for teach ing persons how to deal with a European population. (Hear, hear.) Ho should vote against the amendment, but he wished to guard himself by saying that he agreed in much that had been said by the hon. member with regard to the expediency of creating two new presidencies. He thought however, that a change of such importance should not de pend on a chance vote in a thin house, but should be the re sult of deliberation and full discussion. Mr. BRIGHT said they seemed to be in the position they were in yesterday, when they all were agreed, but differed as to the mode of carrying out the object. All those who had spoken seemed to agree with the hon. member for the Tower Hamlets, and he (Mr. Bright) had not the least in tention of differing from any one. He only rose for the purpose of suggesting a different mode of doing what was proposed. The right hon. gentleman said it would not do to have a governor-general and a lieutenant-general in the same city, for they would be like the two kings of Brent ford, and would come into sudden and unpleasant collision. He agreed with him in that. lie was not in favour of go vernors-general at all, and believed they were, generally speaking, a nuisance. (Laughter.) If the governor-general were in a more central position he would not be so likely to interfere with the 36,000,000 of people in the Bengal presi dency. his suggestion was that a slight change should be made in clause 44, and a new clause added giving the go vernor-general the power to establish in Bengal the same kind of government which existed in Bombay and Madras, leaving the time when he was to do this open. It would not be necessary then to have a nekv act of Parliament. Sir C. WOOD said he wished it to be understood that he was not opposed to the proposition before the house, but he did not think that was the precise time for it. With regard to publicity, he did not think it should be made imperative in the bill, but should be left to be dealt with by the local governments. Mr. AYRTON withdrew his amendment. Clause 2 was then agreed to. On clause 3, Mr. ADAM said the clause provided that appointment should be made by the Governor-General, with the assent of the council present at a meeting. He moved that the words "present at a meeting" be omitted, and that the words " of the said council " be inserted. Mr. D. SEYMOUR said he had a previous amendment to makr.. The time was fast approaching when a financial secretary would nut be necessary for India, and he moved an amendment to leave out the words "there shall be," and to insert the words, "it shall be lawful to appoint." It they could save £B,OOO a year they ought to do so. Col. SYKES supported the amendment. Sir C. WOOD defended the clause, on the ground that it was desirable that the number should be fixed by act of Parliament rather than be left to the Secretary of State, and that five members of the council were not too many for the duties. Mr. BRIGHT hoped that the hon. member would not divide the house upon the amendment. It appeared to him that five was not too large a number. Lord STANLEY objected to the amendment, and said the council attended to their duties very punctually. After a few words from Mr. Gregson, Col. Sykes, and Sir C. Wood, Mr. ADAM consented to withdraw his amendment. Amendment withdrawn ac:ordingly. Mr. TORRENS proposed an amendment to leave out all the words after " manual" to the end of the clause. Sir C. WOOD could not agree to the amendment, as the object of it was to exclude the Commander-in-Chief in India from the council of the Governor-General. After a brief conversation the amendment was with drawn. Mr. H. Sr „man EYMOU such • manual," to insert, " P rov id e d th a t one o f line 37, after It „ then proposed i n c l ause 3, page 2 , remaining ..two shall at years' standing a t the bar of-at-law of not less than ten ment be a p rac ti sing ba the time of such appoint n.. ngland or Ireland, or a prac tising member of the Faculty atA. dtvhoec bara tes o i E n soot l and Scotland , t o o f not less than ten y ears ' standing assist by his legal advi ce the saf.cl General, to superintend and control° a nd regulations, and to dischar ge all ot°hePrr?aration of laws t ua of th e G overnor- General, council; incident to " the office of an ordinary member of th e sa i d u object in making this proposal was to secure as far His pos sible a sound lawyer to aid the Governor-General i s la tla office in question. Mr. 11. BAILLIE thought the appointment in question ought only to be given to a person well acquainted with Indian law. Mr. BRIGHT thought that the pr@posal of the hon. member for Poole (Mr. H. Seymour) was well deserving of consideration. It might be that ten years" were too long to oblige a person to he a member of the bar before he was entitled t, the appointment to the office in question. Sir C. WOOD said if thy, amendment were withdrawn he should contrive to find other wui(l3 which would be more satisfactory, and insert them on bringing up the report. Mr. 11. SEYMOUR withdrew his amendment. lie thought no man woulA be able to draw an act of Parliament ' properly unless he had had some practical working of the courts of law. The clause was agreed to. Clause 4 was agreed to after some discussion. Clauses 5 to 9 inclusive were agreed to. On clause 10, Mr. LAYARD moved an amendment to the effect that not less than one •fourth of the additional members of council should be natives of India. He desired to see no distinction made in these appointments, whether the per sons were different in race, colour, or creed. Lord Canning had stated that he had received valuable advice from native gentlemen in India. Re knew the right hon. gentleman the Secretary of State was anxious that natives should have THE SUN,' LONDON, FRIDAY VENING, JUNEI 21, 1861. their fair share of offices, and perhaps there would be no objection to this amendment. After a few words from Mr. TORRENS, Sir C. "WOOD reiterated his wish that the natives of India should receive confidential employment. His principle was that there should be no distinction between any subjects of her Majesty, no matter what might be their country, colour, or race. (Hear, hear.) For this reason he had made no special mention of natives in the bill. In the other bills the natives were not mentioned, and he thought it would be absurd specially to mention them in this. His intention was that there should be neither exclusion nor privilege, but that all subjects of her Majesty should be equally eligi ble for places of trust. (Hear.) Mr. BRIGHT said that there was great force in what the right hon. baronet said, but still he thought there were un answerable arguments in favour of his hon. friend's amend ment. Perhaps the right hon. baronet would express an opinion as to the proportion of native members there should be in the council. If the right hon. baronet would make a recommendation embodying his opinion. to Lord Canning, and it was acted upon by that nobleman, a precedent would be established which would perhaps be better than to insert a special provision in the bill. Sir C. WOOD said that when the bill passed a despatch would, of course, be sent out to the Governor-General, and in that despatch he should take care to express his views as to the expediency of appointing natives to the council without mentioning any particular number. That course, he thought, would be much better than mentioning the matter in the bill. Lord STANLEY hoped that the amendment would be withdrawn, and that the matter would be left to the discre tion of the Secretary of State and the Governor-General. Mr. LAYARD said that although he did not agree with many of the arguments he had heard urged against his motion, yet after the appeal made by the right hon. gentle man he should not press it to a division, on the distinct understanding that the right hon. gentleman would write a despatch to the Governor-General and the governors of the different presidencies to appoint these members of council. The amendment was then withdrawn, and the clause agreed to. On clause 11, Mr. VANSITTART moved in page 6, line 24, to leave out " one year," and insert "five years." He did not be.. lieve the council as about to be constructed would give any satisfaction to India. It appeared the non-officials were to have a seat only for one year. In the hope that they might be made effective he proposed that they should have a seat for five years. Mr. BRIGHT said that in looking over the bill no clause surprised him more than this. He thought the hon. gentle man who moved the amendment had not Elated one-half of the arguments that might be used against the proposition in the bill. It seemed these additional members were co be nominated by the Governor-General, and they were to be appointed only for one year, and were to have no salary, although their expenses would be paid. Every element of independence as regarded these members was taken away. If a man came into office for a twelvemonth he would know at the end of that time who could leave him out when his term of office expired. He did not think it necessary to go the length of five years, but he thought three y ears the very smallest term for which they should be appointed. Mr. TORRENS trusted the right hon. gentleman would agree to adopt the amendment. Mr. CRAWFORD thought that three years would meet the circumstances of the case, but that one year would not allow any person to obtain a sufficient knowledge of the office. Lord STANLEY believed there was only one feeling among the committee on this matter. They wanted to have independence, experience, and zeal and interest for the pub lic service. Under this clause as it now stood it would be utterly impossible to have any one of these things. (Hear.) Sir C.ll OOD felt that it would be incurring a great re sponsibility to run counter to the views of Lord Canning. Lord Canning said distinctly that the non-efficient persons should not serve for more than three years, and that one year would be much better. He would not take upon him self to go further than two years. Mr. 11. SE YMOUR was willing to accept two years, which was a common colonial period, and hoped that hon. gentlemen would not divide. The clause was accordingly altered to two years, and wa s then agreed to. On clause 19, Mr. FORSTER drew attention to the despatch of Lord Canning on the subject of publishing the debates. He con sidered it of the utmost importance that the debates should be regularly reported. Sir C. WOOD agreed that it would be well to make pub licity the rule ; but if natives who could not speak English were tobe members of the Indian councils, there was danger of the reports being one-sided. To prevent that, there would be frequent official reports. The clause was then agreed to, as were also the clauses to 29 inclusive. On clause 30, Mr. VANSIT TART proposed to alter the term of office of members of the local councils from one year to three. The local councils would be stationary, and would therefore be in a very different position from the general council ; and one or two years' service would not be sufficient to secure that interest and independence which he was anxious to see. Sir C. WOOD said he proposed to make the time two years instead of one. Mr. D. SEYMOUR, thought the better plan would be to appoint two for one year, two for two years, two fur three years, and so on according to the number. The committee then divided— For the amendment Against it Majority... —6 The clause was then agreed to, with the insertion of two years. The other clauses up to 43 were agreed to. The succeeding clauses, to clause 50, were agreed to. Sir C. WOOD then moved an additional clause, provid ing that the senior member of council, or the governor of the other presidencies, should succeed the Governor-General in the event of his removal by death, or of any sudden emergency. The clause was agreed to, together with the remaining clauses and the preamble, and the house resumed. EAST INDIA (HIGH COURTS OF JUDICATURE) BILL. Sir C. WOOD moved that the house go into committee on this bill. Mr. BRIGHT said that the house had now been engaged on the bill just disposed of seven hours. The few members who had attended were now completely exhausted, and the hon. baronet himself must have an insatiable appetite if he wished at that time to proceed with an important measure of this kind. For himself he was not hostile to the bill, but if the motion was persisted in he would go away, in justice to his own powers of human endurance. Sir C. WOOD said that he was extremely anxious to pro ceed with the bill, and seeing that the hon. members who took an interest in these matters were all present, and very few amendments were given notice of on the paper, h e hoped that the objection to proceed with the bill would not be persisted in. After some discussion, in which several members strongly objected to going into committee, Sir C. WOOD said that if it was the general wish of the house—(hear, hear)—that the committee should be post poned, he would assent to the postponement, and he would place the bill on the list of orders for to-morrow, in order that he might then fix the day when it would come on. ficient cause, may discharge the child from the school before the full expiration of the period for which he has been sent there." That modification of the bill ho considered would be absolutely necessary to the satisfactory working of the bill, which would otherwise act very cruelly in some cir cumstances. Sir G. C. LEWIS thought the power had better be left to the Secretary of State, who would have not only the power of discharging the child, but an interest in doing so ; because the charge upon the public would thereby be lessened. Besides, the 14th clause contained an absolute power of discharge. Mr. DUNLOP thought it a bad principle that a child, when it was desired to remove it from one of those schools, could not be removed without an application to the Secre tary of State. The clause was agreed to, and the house having resumed, the Chairman reported the bill as amended. were locked together, and they came on neck and neck to within a few strides of the elatr, when Fordham gave Little Drummer a shake, and he gained the fiat of the judge by a head, Sporting Life beatir.g Sharpshooter for second place by four lengths. Borderer was a bad fourth. Redpole fifth, Tonio sixth, Eskdale seventh, Lucknow next, and Ipswich last. The winner was claimed by Mr. Mellon. The Bushy Plate, of 30 sovs, added to a sweepstakes of 5 sovs each; weights for age; mares and geldings allowed 31b each; selling allowances. Half a mile. Lord Westmoreland's Pupil, 2yrs, sst 71b (D 10) (Midgley) 1 Mr. J. Smith's El Dorado filly, 2 yrs, sst 71b (50) (Whip) 2 Mr. Burbridge's Woman in Green, 2 yrs, sst 71b (carried sst 91b) (£10) (Parsons) 3 Callipyge and Cheesecake also ran. Betting-6 to 4 agst the El Dorado filly, sto 2 agst Pupil, and 5 to 1 agst Cheesecake Pupil and the El Dorado filly lay in front from the start to the finish—Pupil winning after a good race by a neck. The winner was bought in for 170 guineas. The Richmond Plato Handicap of 50 sovs, for all ages ; winners extra. One mile. Mr. W. Bevill's Audrey, 5 yrs, Bst 91b.... (L. Snowden) 1 Mr. S. Jacobs's Boolcaloom, 3 y rs , E st (W . Woodhouse) 2 Mr. Brayley's Clotilde colt, 3 yrs, 6st 41b.... (Parsons) 3 The Don and Lady Elizabeth also ran. Betting—Even on Audrey, 6 to 4 agst Bookaloom, 10 to 1 agst any other offered. Won easily by a length; the Clotildo colt was a bad third. The Don and Lady Elizabeth beaten off. A Maiden Two-yr-Old Plate of 40 sovs ; colts, Bst 71b; fillies, Bst 41b ; selling allowances. New T.Y.C. Mr. G. Simpson's sister to Morella, by Augur (X 100), 7st 131 b Mr. J. Marshall's Evangeline (L5O), 7st 81b (A. Ed war d s ) 2 Mr. Barnard's (0), 7st Illb (J. Reeves) 3 The following also ran :—Hedgehog, Perambulator, El Dorado filly, Master Flatman, The Cure filly, Gitanilla, Cock Robin, and Creusa filly. Betting-5 to 4 agst Evangeline, sto 1 agst Sister to Morella, 7 to 1 agst Vigil, 10 to 1 each agst Hedgehog and the El Dorado filly, 100 to 8 agst any other offered. Another long delay was caused at the post by the break ing away of Sister to Morella and the Creusa filly. When the flag was lowered Sister to Morella, Evangeline, Perambulator, Hedgehog, and Gitanilla ran together in front for a short distance, when Sister to Morella and Evangeline came out and ran on side by side to the distance, where Evangeline had a slight lead, and continued in front to the half distance, where Sister to Morella made her effort and got her head slightly in front, and the two run home a fine race, Sister to Morella winning by a neck ; three lengths between the second and third; Hedgehog was fourth, and the others tailed off, the Creusa filly last. The Scurry Stakes Handicap of 10 sous each, with 20 added ; gentlemen riders, professionals allowed to ride by carrying 51b extra. One mile. Mr. Payne's Gabardine, 3 yrs, lOst (Mr, Edwards) 1 Mr. Price's Greenwich Fair, 6 yrs, list 61b (Mr. Woods) 2 Mr. Serle's Wild Bird, 4 yrs, lOst 91b, inc. 5113_ extr i_ Apollo and Impati ence a l so ran . (J. Searle) 3 Betting-6 to 4 agst Gabardine, 2to 1 agst Greenwich Fair, 5 to 1 agst Apollo, and 8 to 1 agst Wild Bird. Wild Bird was the first to show in front, having Gabar dine second, Apollo and Greenwich Fair side by side third and fourth, Impatience bringing up the rear. In this order they ran to the half-mile post, where Wild Bird ran out, and Gabardine took command, with Apollo second, Green wich Fair next. At the distance Greenwich Fair passed Apollo, and in a few strides further she was alongside of Gabardine. The two then came on abreast to within a couple of strides from home, where Gabardine got slightly the best of it, and won by a short head. Wild Bird was beaten from the second three lengths, Apollo and Impa tience beaten off. LATEST BETTING. NORTHUMBERLAND PLATE. 5 to 2 agst Underhand (taken and offered) 10 to 1 agst Syringe (taken and offered) 100 to 8 agst Danae (taken and offered) 14 to 1 agst Joey Jones (taken and offered) 20 to 1 agst Predictor (taken) GOODWOOD STAKES. 10 to lon the field (offered) 12 to 1 wanted agst (each) Starke, Schism, and Voltella. The stewards for the Hampton Races, 1862, are Lords Strathmore, Sefton, and Courtenay. HORSES STRUCK OUT OF THEIR ENGAGE- MENTS. June 12, at 12.50 p.m.—Pretendant, out of the Hunt Cup, Ascot. June 17, at 9 a.m.—Bradfield and Ashton, out of their Newmarket engagements. June 17, at 10.30 a.m.—alll Captain Christie's horses out at Hampton, and all except Antares out at Newton. Juno 17, at 12.40 p.m.—Atropia, out of all handicaps published to date. June 17, at 12.40 pan.--Dorking out of. the Odiham Handicap. June 17, at 4.30 p.m.—Joskin and Volition, out of the Surrey and Middlesex Stakes at Hampton (left in by mis take). June 18, at 9 a,m.—Bornico, out of Molymous Plato, Liverpool. June 18, at 9 a.m.—Bandsman out of Surrey and Mid dlesex Stakes, Hampton, and Newton Handicaps. Juno 18, at 9 a.m.—Graut, out of Dogmersfield Park Stakes, Odiham. June 18, at 9 a.m.—Timandra, out of all engagements entered into up to Juno 14. Juno 18, at 9 a m.—All hvi . deS out or their Hampton engagements. June 18, at 11.30 a.m.—Jingling Johnny, out of the Molyneaux Plate, Liverpool. June 18, at 3 p.m.—Gaylad, out of the OdihamHandi cap. 7" June 18, at 4.20 p.m.—Pitman, out of all engagements up to June 12. June 18—Daniel, out of the Bentinck Testimonial Stakes at Liverpool. June 18, at 7.50 p.m.—All the horses in Mr.lW. H. Mundy's name, out of their Odiham engagements, except ing Bolero, in the Hurstbourne Stakes ; and Prince Edward out of the Mottisfont Stakes at Stockbridge, the Grange Park Stakes, Winchester, the Coventry Stakes, Worcester, and the Wothorpe Stakes, Stamford. Goodwood Cup, 1862—The conditions - of this race as to weights, foreign allowances, &c., will be revised before it is renewed. Bombardier has not been let to Mr. Swindell, but has returned to Ireland. Horse Named—The following name has bean given to Lord Ailesbury's ch f Sister to St. Albans, by Stockwell, out of Bribery, 3 yrs, Frailty. THE GOODW , Forfeits to be declared on Ti 'OOD STAKES. uesday next. Two miles and INDUSTRIAL SCHOOLS BILL. The house then went into committee, resuming at clause 16, which was agreed to, as was clause 17. On clause IS, Mr. BARROW objected that it gave a single magistrate the power of taking a certain class of persons from the control of the poor-law guardians, and placing them in positions where their maintenance would cost double, while the guardians would have to pay for it. That was a re volution in our present system which deserved the atten tion of the committee. He complained of the unjust operation of this clause in making a child chargeable on a parish by the fact of its having slept in the parish but a single night. Mr. lIENLEY having said a few words, Sir G. C. LEWIS said he was prepared to admit that a difficulty might arise as to the chargeability. After some further discussion the clause was negatived, to be introduced on the bringing up of the report. Clauses 20 to 34 inclusive were agreed to after some conversation, in which Mr. Henley, Colonel Stuart, Mr. Garnett, and Sir G. C. Lewis took part. On clause 35, Mr. WHALLEY (who was much interrupted) said he had been informed that schools which now existed of a reformatory character had been made use of for the pur poses of Roman Catholic monasteries, and he even under stood nunneries. (Hear, hear, laughter, and cries of "Go on.") He was informed that is. a- week were given for the support of each of the children. (Hear, hear.) Nov a wat system eni mt awtroooussaauucbdhe theirth as ee mht extendedhi l over ee a rn c ttbofe from this m a ho s mi staahbnnei bill ls ct schools—(hear, Catholics,o aonls inducement_ (ahn t ooda alarming t, : h r hae e ext n at t sre s y)n_s t t o . Urea; hear, and l money,t he - • ewh which meaning ofieerhs: haat : : duobds been cheers. reie y ( o H o e n ar . ), hear, Th a l t au g g r h a t n er ts , re newedof of children, should be diveirvotefeud G f ostensibly for the education their chee r r oin heic.h legitimatewere dirdirectly y o object, and given in aid of institutions such a ‘a‘Gteo understan those con trary to law. (I t i m e d ar c , r ie s hear, of thought rof "N o , n O , " s t on," and much laughter.) lie ment as that ought In ontiths him thattostitotiiu Go en, „ " to n. Htr (T h i i en r , hear, had sufficient experience to i ih r r o iona n n i i. c ci a 'a l l cheers. (Hear, (Hear, hear, Go on, go on.) lie sup posed he would be prevented in fu t ure from bringing those matters before the house. (No, no, Hear, hear, Laughter, and Go on.) The bill ought to be restricted to existing certified schools. The clause, and the remaining ones were then agreed to. Mr. BUXTON, in the absence of Sir Stafford Northcote, moved the following clause :—" On the application of the parent, or of the managers, or of the guardians who may be liable to make any repayment as aforesaid on account of any child, any justices of the county in which the school is situate, if satisfied that a suitable employment in life has been provided for the child, or that there is otherwise suf. SALMON AND TROUT FISHERIES BILL. This bill was read a second time, and ordered to be re ferred to a select committee. QUEENSLAND GOVERNMENT BILL. The order for the third reading of this bill was read and discharged, for the purpose of its being re-committed. CHATIIAM DOCKYARD ENLARGEMENT BILL. The house then went into committee on this bill. Lord C. PAGET said that the town of Chatham was not opposed to the bill, which simply took powers for the en largement of the dockyard. The city of London had demanded the insertion of a saving clause, but there was a question as to how that was to be done. He proposed there fore to report progress before reaching the last clause, in order to ißtroduce the clause on a future day. The several clauses, excepting the last, were then agreed to, the house resumed ; and the chairman reported progress, and obtained leave to sit again. PUBLIC WORKS (IRELAND) ADVANCE AND RE-PAYMENTS OF MONEYS BILL. This bill was read a second time. NEW PROVINCES (NEW ZEALAND) BILL. This bill was read a second time. OFFENCES IN TERRITORIES NEAR SIERRA LEONE PREVENTION BILL. This bill was read a second time. CORK INFIRMARY BILL. This bill was read a second time. VOTERS (IRELAND) No. 2 BILL. This bill was read a second time. ' PUBLIC-HOUSES (SCOTLAND) BILL. On the motion of Mr. NfultE it was agreed that this house will, to-morrrw, resolve itself into a committee to consider the acts for the regulation of public-houses in Scotland. WINDSOR SUSPENDED CANONRIES. Sir G. LEWIS obtained 'caw, to bring in a bill for the appropriation, in favour of the Military Knights and the Churches of Windsor, of two of the canonries suspended in the chapel of Windsor which was afterwards read a first time. The other business on the paper was disposed of and the house adjourned at half-past one o'clock. SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. NEWTON RACES.-THURSDAY. The Newton Stakes (handicap) of 3 sous each, with 25 added. About one mile and a quarter. Mr. Osborne's Hellenus, 3 yrs, 7st - (Challoner) 1 Mr. Cliff's Creeper, 4 yrs, Set 31b (Gardiner) 2 Mr. Harland's Maid of the Mist,s yrs,Bst 61b (J. Osborne) L 3 - - The following al - io ran :—Medora, Kinnaird, Princess Royal, and Chirper. Betting-3 to 1 each agst Medora and Princess Royal, 5 to 1 each agst Helenus and Chirper, and 6 to 1 agst Maid of the Mist. Creeper and lielenus made alternate running to the back of the course, about midway up which Helenus took up the running, and, carrying it on to the end, won in a canter by three lengths. Maid of the Mist passed Medora, who took third place at the distance, just on the post, and finished third, four lengths off. The others were scattered all over the course, and passed the post in the order named. The St. Helens Purse of 7 sovs each, with 50 added. Half a mile. Count de Lagrange's Baliverne, 2 yrs, Est 101 b (H. Grimshaw) 1 Mr. Osborne's North Pole, 3 yrs, Gst 81b.... (Whiteley) 2 Betting —6 to 1 on the winner. They ran nearly abreast to the old course, when Bali verne took a clear lead, and won easily by a length. A Gold Cup, value 100 sovs, added to a handicap stakes of 10 sovs each. Two miles. Mr. Godding's Pastime, 5 yrs, 7st 10Ib.. Grimshaw) 1 Mr. Buckley's Wynstay, 3 yrs, sst Sib (car llb extra) (Wheatley) 2 Baron de Niviere's Palaiseau, 3 yrs, Gat 21b (Daley) 3 . _ . The following also ran—Pancake, Desmond, Lopcatcher, and Rose. Betting-11 to S agst Pancake, 3 to 1 agst Palaiseau, 5 to 1 each agst Pastime and Wynnstay, and 3 to 1 each agst Desmond and Lopcatcher. Desmond, followed by Rose, Pancake, and Palaiseau, in the order named, was first off, the rear being brought up by Pastime and Lopcatcher. They ran thus for about a quarter of a mile, when Palai seau fell in the rear, and Wynnstay took up the running, his followers up the hill being Rose, Desmond, and Pan cake, Lopcatcher still last. Passing the stand the first time round Wynnstay had a clear lead, and Lopcatcher, who ram through his horses when fairly in the straight, went on second, Desmond, Rose, Pancake, Palaiseau, and Pastime following on next. In making the turn for the final round, Wynnstay ran wide, and let up Lopcatcher, who thence held command to approaching the hill for the second time, when Wynnstay again resumed it. Pancake gassed Lopcatcher hzu, aaa went on in attendance on lVynnstay, Lopcatcher and Pastime being next. Wynnstay again ran out, in making the turn for the straight, and lost a length or two, but Wheatley getting him straight, he hold a clear lead to the half dis tance, when Pancake and Lopcatcher were beaten, and Palaiseau neared the leaders. Pastime then challenged Wynnstay, and getting her head in front, despite all Wheatley's efforts, who visibly tired on the latter, Pastime won cleverly by half a length. There were three lengths between the second and third. Pancake was a good fourth, about a length behind Palaiseau. The Garswood Plate (handicap) of 50 sous for all ages. Red House in, about 5 furlongs. Mr. Gullivot's Tiara, 6 yrs, Bst 91b (Cresswell) 1 Mr. Wadlow's Medora, 3 yrs, 6st 41b (Wheatley) 2 Mr. Jackson's Harriet, 3 yrs, 7st 41b Grimahaw) 3 The following also ran :—Dubious, Bella Donna, Miss Dunstable, Necromancer, and Squib. Betting-6 to 4 agst Tiara, 9to 4 agst Harriet, and 6to 1 agst any other. Owing to the fractiousness of several of the horses at the post—conspicuous amongst which were Dubious, Necromancer, Miss Dunstable, and Medora—the start was delayed for more than half an hour. When the flag fell, Harriet got away with a clear lead, followed by Medora snd Tiara. The latter took second place on going up the hill, but was pulled back immediately into her old position. When fairly in the straight, Tiara made her effort, and, drawing away from Harriet all the way up, won easily by a length. Medora came at the finish, and defeated Harriet on the post for second place by a neck. Dubious was a bad fourth. The Visitors' Purse (handicap) of 100 soy s. Ono mile and a quarter. Mr. Logan's Lustre, 5 yrs, 7st 11lb (Gardiner) 1 Mr. Oeborne's Gipsy Girl, 3 yrs, sst 101 b (Carroll) 2 Mr, Phillips's Deserter, 3 yrs, Gst 101 b .. (11. Grimshaw) 3 The following also ran :—Brilliant, Recovery, North Wold, and Sister to Horace. Betting-2 to 1 each agst Lustre and Gipsy Girl. No thing else backed. Recovery, Lustre, Sister to Horace, and Deserter were first off, but in a few strides Lustre took up the running, and carried it to the back stretch, where he was passed by Recovery and Brilliant, the latter of whom showed the way to the hill, going up which Gipsy Girl headed him, and with Lustre going on third, and Deserter next, the lot ran into the straight, when Brilliant gave way beaten, which left Lustre in attendance on Gipsy Girl. At the half distance Lustre went to front, made the re mainder of the running, and won in a canter by three lengths. There was half a length between the second and third, and the same distance between the third and fourth horses. BETTING ON TIIE COURSE. NORTHUMBERLAND PLATE. 3to 1 agst Underhand (wanted) 7to 1 agst Joey Jones (offered) 10 to 1 agst Yorkminster (taken) 100 to 8 agst Syringe (taken) 100 to 6 aget Peggy Taft (taken) 20 to 1 agst Rosamond (taken) SCRATCHING.—CaIIer Oui was struck out of all her en gagements at Newton, immediately after running in the Groat Newton Handicap on Wednesday afternoon. HAMPTON RACES-THURSDAY. The Visitors' Plate of 50 sova (handicap), for all ages; winners extra. Three-quarters of a mile. Mr. G. Payne's Voltella, 3 yrs, 7st 71b ' (Drew) 1 Mr. J. Nightingall's New Forest Deer colt, 3 yrs, Gst (James Nightingall) 2 Mr. S. Jacob's The Don, 4 yrs, Gst Gib (Benet) 3 Mr. G. Angell's Spanish Fly, 3 yrs, 75t... (Perry) 4 Betting-5 to 2on Voltella. At the half distance Voltella was leading, and she came on and won easily by a length and a half. The Railway Plate of 50 sovs, added to a sweepstakes of 5 sovs each. Five furlongs. Mr. Brayley's Gauntlet, 3 vrs (xSO), 7st 111 h (G.Fordharn) 1 Mr. B. Thomas's Girdle, 2 yrs (4;50), sst 131 b (Midgley) 2 Mr. Mundy's Liberality, 2 yrs (.£5O), Gst 71b (J. Reeves) 3 The following also ran :—The Principal, Ladylike, Ban dit, and Mickleham. Betting-5 to 2 agst Girdle, 3to 1 agst Liberality, 7to 2 Host Ganntlet, 6 to 1 ag t The. Principal. Mr. E. Brayley declared to win with Gauntlet. Won easily by three lengths. The winner was bought in for 56 guineas. Her Majesty's Plate of 100 guineas ; three-yr-olds, Bst ; four, 9st 71b; five, lOst; six and aged, lOst 2:b. The winner to be sold for £5OO. Two miles. Mr. G. Lambert's Little Drummer, 3 yrs, Bst (G.Fordham) 1 Mr. Mellon's Sporting Life, 3 yrs, Bst .... (J. Snowden) 2 Mr. J. Dawson's Sharpshooter, 3 yrs, Sst..L. Snowden) 3 The following also ran :—Eskdale, Paleface, Tonio, Red pole, Lucknow, Borderer, and Ipswich. 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The following memorial to the Prime Minister was adopted on Wednesday by the Birmingham Chamber of Commerce : " To the Right Honourable Viscount Palmerston, M.P., Premier of England, &c., " The Memorial of the Birmingham Chamber of Commerce in special general meeting assembled, " Showeth,—That your memorialists observe with great regret the alterations which have been made by the House of Lords in the Bill to amend the Laws relating to Bankruptcy and Insolvency, inasmuch as such alterations will, if adopted by the House of Commons, deprive the bill of some of the most important features which the commercial com munity, as represented by the chambers of com merce and trade protection societies, have consi dered so essential in any alteration of the existing laws. That your memorialists have always been opposed to the appointment of a new judge in bank ruptcy, believing such an officer to be altogether unnecessary; consequently they do not object to the omission of the clauses having reference to such appointment; but your memorialists deem it of the utmost importance that creditors should obtain a more direct control over the estates of bankrupts and insolvents, and are of opinion therefore that unless the clauses giving this control to the credi tors, which have been struck out of the bill by the House of Lords, are restored, it would be more satisfactory to the commercial community that the bill should not become law. That your memorialists are also of opinion that the clauses relating to the dividend and to the discharge of the creditors' assignees should stand part of the bill, and that the remuneration to the official assignee should be partly by salary and partly by commission or fees. Your memorialists therefore respectfully but ear nestly pray her Majesty's Government not to con sent to the passing of the bill, unless it be restored to its original condition, with the exception of the clauses having reference to the creation of a new judge. _ " Signed by direction and on behalf of the chamber, " GEORGE DIXON, Vice-President." It is to be presented by a deputation this day (Friday). THE ESSAYS AND REVIEWS. Convocation has every now and then a fit of meeting, talking, arguing, and deliberating. Ordi nary persons have a very confused idea of what it all means, and do not quite understand even the law of recurrence by which the meetings themselves take place—why Convocation meets at some times and not at others, what there is to make it meet this weak when it did not mee t l as t wee k . It i s an eccen tric phenomenon which th e y cannot re d uce to rule. They would like to know something about it, if they could without the least trouble. Such is the curio sity of our nature. They do not, h owever , rea li se the fact that there is anything human in its pro ceeding, or that its deliberations have any connec tion with the objects, concerns, or interests of man. They are rather looked upon as hieroglyphical and mystical ; the speakers are personifications of un known truths, and the scene is emblematic and figurative, if we had but the key to the solution of the sacred enigma. It is rather hard upon Convocation that people are determined to regard its proceedings in this cabalistic light, because we believe that it is espe cially ambitious of being considered a practical body. It has been engaged for some time in a despe rate struggle for this purpose, which perhaps, so far as it has gone, does more credit to its strength of will than to its tact or adroitness. Doctrine—until this new blast of heresy from the authors of the "Essays and Reviews"—has been by general consent set aside, and for two years or more the one absorb ing subject which has occupied the deliberations of Archbishops, Bishops, Deans, Archdeacons, Pre bendaries, and other dignitaries of Convocation, has been the subject of Godfathers and Godmothers. It cannot be denied, if the object is to do away with the mythical character of these synodical debates, that the subject is well chosen. Godfathers and Godmothers are undoubtedly persons of flesh and blood; nobody can deny that; so far from being spectres, symbolic personages, and ghostly repre sentatives of sublime abstractions, they are really very pleasant, hearty, genial, and comfortable people to think about. They are associated with family gatherings, plumcake and mincepies, with annual sovereigns on birthdays, and with many other pleasant things. They are surrou n d e d b y an atmosphere of decent jollity—we say it in no dero gation of their spiritual functions; the Chnrch and time combined have produced this excellent, well tempered mixture, of the spiritual and temporal. But while the subject is well chosen for the purpose of connecting Convocation with flesh and blood, we aro not quite sure that the line taken about it will please everybody, because Convocation is, in fact, going to dispense with the necessity of these excellent and useful functionaries. There is a cer tain 29th Canon, which makes it necessary for everybody to have a Godfather and Godmother, and, in order to secure this benefit to all the infan tine members of the Church, it prohibits the parents assuming this office. The Canon appears to argue in this way, and there is, perhaps, some sense in the view ;—No father or mother, it appears to say, is a real Godfather, or real God mother ; it is quite true that they may stand at the font and take upon themselves the nominal office ; but the real Godfather and the real Godmother are the creations of time, custom, and the natural feel ing working within the precincts of the Church. They are essentially persons outside of the home nucleus, whose interest is engaged in the rising young Christian by assuming this relation to him ; the parents themselves are already sponsors ; and ten times more, by the simple fact of being parents ; if you give the child only his parents for his spon sors, you give him nothing at all, because he has gat them already. The reason of having a God father and Godmother is that they are fresh per sons, who come from without and add the friendly interest and attention to the parental one. If the Canon, we say, argues in this way, it does not argue altogether unreasonably, because it is a simple ab surdity to say that a 'parent can be what is ordi narily meant by a Godfather or Godmother. There will be many good sort of people who will not altogether concur in the abolition of the 29th Canon ; but what was the Convocation to do ? Convocation was in a difficulty. Having met and met for several years, it at last aspired to the great and distinguished honour of performing one real synodical act. But, what was this act to be ? That was the question. It wos too much to ask the Prim: Minister, at first, to be allowed to make a new Canon. If you ask for that, he looks glum. He says, " What is this new Canon to be ? Wh a t d o you want it for ? We don't like Canons now-a-days. We think we do very well without them." But if you ask leave to abolish a Canon, that is quite a dif ferent thing, and the Prime Minister says, " Oh, certainly ; you may abolish a Canon if you like, and welcome ; that can do nobody any harm." So, the abolition of some Canon or other being resolved upon, what Canon was it to be ? It must be one connected with a practical subject in order to do justice to the practical temper of Convocation; it must be one not of first-rate consequence, otherwise you raise a storm in the Synod itself. se the 29th Canon is selected as the vile corpus upon which to make the first experiment of a revived process of legislation, and Godfathers and Godmothers are sacrificed to the restoration of synodical action. As the good old institution, however,is only dispensed with, and not suppressed, people may still hope to enjoy it some time longer; they will probably even see no great difference in the practice, notwith standing the solemn decision of Convocation. We shall raise no alarm therefore on the subject, and indulge in no gloonsy and austere prophecies of a general termination of the genial patronage, con descending favours, annual presents, and other kind attentions of Godfathers and Godmothers. Convocation is in this difficulty—that it must be practical, while if it is practical the danger is of being mischievous. Thus the subject of Hymn books comes before it. There is a move for an authorised Hymn-book. Congregations are over powered, it is said, by the quantity and variety of collections which are forced upon them; every new clergyman brings a new set with him. It is there fore proposed that Convocation should compile a Hymn-book. We believe there is a kind of mania for compiling Hymn-books among the clergy. There are some things which everybody thinks he can do best; poking the fire is the common instance given of this wide-spead delusion ; nobody ever lived in a house for five years, and had time for gaining a th oroug h acquaintance with all its faults and bad arrangements, but thought secretly that he really could, with proper architectural aid, build a house without a fault. The delusion extends to more serious subjects, and certainly to that of Hymn books. Every other clergyman thinks, whatever else he could not do, and whatever his moral and intellectual defects are, which he admits to be ma n y and grievous, that he could compile a perf ec t Hymn-book. It is certainly a grievance, but what is to be done ? An " authorised" Hymn-book w ou ld i only be another added to the n comes interminable it invokes that the con sequence can i bs list. Convocation debates on this subject, and ' wisely to the conclusion that nothing can be done. It is the best conclusion, undoubtedly, arrived at, but, unfortunately, that there is nothing in this employ the practical powers of Convocation and quarter to that this negative result would have been obtained even without its assistance._ Times. It is understood that the Atlantic Royal Mail • Steam Navigation Company intend to suspend the despatch of their vessels between Galway and America pending the issue of the question as to the subsidy, ANDERSON, 211 E FUGITIVE SLAVE. ENTHUSIASTIC MEETING IN MARYLEBONE, An enthusiastic meeting of the inhabitants of. Marylebone, conven e d f o r the twofold purpose of raising funds for th e b ene fit o f A n d erson, the fugl" tive slave, who has recently arrived from Canada, and for his kinsmen of Hamilton, Canada West, to aid them in erecting a church and school, took place at Portman Hall, Carlisle-street, Portman' market, on Wednesday night. The Rev. Dr. Burns presided on the occasion. The Rev. T. M. KINNAIRD, minister of coloureu, populati on , i n t h e Br i t i sh Methodist Episcopal Church of Hamilton, Canada West, first addressed the meeting in an able manner, and in which he endeavoured to show that the course of appealing to the sympathies of the benevolent of this country, for aid to carry out th e erec ti on o f a church and sc h o ol in Hamilton, was the only way o f i mproving the pre sent generation of coloured people in that quarter. He dwelt upon the civil war in America, and the evils of slavery in the South, of which Andersen had been a suffering victim. He was not surprised at this war, and only wished it had come to pass years ago. He took the present opportunity to inform his hearers that one-half the money col lected that evening would be for the erection of tila church and school, ar.d the other half to Ande , .soat who must have something to eat and drink for the present. JOHN ANDERSON, who was received 'with grea t and prolonged cheering, said, with a modest de' livery—Mr. chairman, ladies, and gentlemen, I am somewhat bashful, not being used to appear before the public. I only want to state in a few words how I got along among slave owners. (Hear.) When I escaped from bondage I had to cut and runt and in my flight I am sorry to say 1 had to fight and shed blood. I don't like to shed blood. (Cries of " You did right.") That is what is called fighting in retreat in war, I believe. (Hear, hear.) I assuro you I am very sorry to have done what I did. tried to evade my pursuer, to avoid killing him, and I told him beforehand what I would do if he con tinued to follow me—that I would slay him, But he persisted in following me for tw) or three day; longer, and said he would not leave me, and I slay him. (Loud cri es o f " B ravo " and " You did right. " ) I went to my wife. I had a young wife and sick child at the time. I then had to fight with cold steel. I am, indeed, my brothers and sisters, very, very sorry for having done so, but I b.ad a good chance Of escape, and it was my last resource to avoid being retaken into bondage. I certainly would have es caped, if I could, without killing the man. I was then a Christian man, and I hope I am nolv. (Cheers, and loud cries of " It was a justifiable act.") I had a narrow escape, and but for England I should never have been free. The Rev, CHAIRMAN thought if there was ill, any kind of war th a t w hi c h wras right, he must fully endorse the opinion so lautzty expressed in the meeting, that John Anderson did perfectly right. (Hear.) Does our fugitive friend look like a mur derer ? (No, no.) In no other country in the wide world besides England, would the same intense e%; citement, trouble, and interest be evinced on behal!., of a simple fugitive coloured man. (Cries of " Heart, from Anderson and others.) And h e (th e Ch a i r man) was proud to say it did honour to his country and Government, and has ended in the complete vindi nation of their friend, Anderson. (Great applause . ) He maintained then, as he had done the previou s Sunday from his pulpit, that, with respect to thorough love of humanity an d lib erty, England; stood alone, and no other country would have saved poor Anderson. (Renewed and prolonged OP" plause.) It would beget in coloured men through; out the world eternal gratitude to Englishmen, and he rejoiced that his country had done this g reat thing. The Rev. Mr. HORNE next spoke, and contende d amidst continued applause, that had he been iu Anderson's place Anderson's conduct would hat e been his. Under the circumstances he did per" fectly right to kill or die. Mr. HORNER announced that a monster meetill was appointed to be held at Exeter Hall on the 2 July on behalf of Anderson, and hoped all present would endeavour to be there. (Great cheering.) A vote of thanks to th e rev , an d learned Chair man closed the proceedings. A collection of Anderson's card photographs wer e offered for sale at a s hilli ng, b ut so great was the enthusiasm, that notwith s t an di ng an a d m i ssio n , 0 the hall had been charged, and the majority of th e purchasers, who were very numerous, were of th e poorer class of the community, something above tuu shilling was invariably insisted on being paid. COUNTRY MARKETS. BIRMINGHAM—JUNE 20. At to-day's market there was a short supply of whew from the farmers, and the sales made of both English and fine foreign were again is to 2s lower. Barley 10) oats 6d, and beans and peas 2s lower. MANCHESTER_ JUNE 20. Only a retail business was done. Ordinary English red wheat 2s lower in price, and Foreign 3d per 701bs lower. Best English flour 2s per sack decline; common qualitieo offered at is cheaper. Oats and oatmeal were easier to buy Egyptian beans receded ls, and Indian corn 2s to 35 Pe r quarter. PLYMOUTH—JUNE 11. The market was inactive, with a small attendance, anc l : 1 „ decline of 2s on last week's currencies--English wheat, 60s to 62s ; red, 56s to 58s per q r ; F renc h d o ., 04 to 62s ; American, 61s to 63s ; Spanish, 74s to 76s ; Ru s ' sian, 60s to 625. Barley in good supply, at 36s to 43s PI qr for malting ; grinding, 32s to 36s ; oats, 24s to 288 ; an beans, —s to —s ; flour, 44s to 46s 6d, CORK—JUNE 19. The following were the quotatio ns thi s morn i ng pd wheat, 27s Od to —s Od; white, 31s:0d fo —sod: barley 10 Gd to 18s Od ; oats, 13s Od to 16s 4d. EDINBURGH GRAIN-JUNE 19. s Barley yt on nn the ee top p p 2 0 : 6 0 d d d d o o w w n n . . . . . . .. g a a v v e e r r a a ge e Oats on tho top Os 6d down.. ....... average O s 3d (loyal' Beans on the top Os 9 d down. ....... avera ge Os lid doh' 3s 2s lO id d dlovillwil: Averages per Imperial quarter. Wheat.... .. .......... X ( i 1 ( 1 7 ) 0 1 :1 1 2 2 t t h h: New wheat ... Barley . ................ 1 H 5 3-12ths Oats . .................. 1 10 11 5-12ths 8ean5..,,,,,.,. , 2 4 6 3-12ths Total Supply and Sales, Wheat ..... ...1246 qrs Sold 872 qrs 8ar1ey........ 205 qrs Sold 81 qrs Oats 1035 qrs Sold 719 qrs Beans 9l qrs Sold ',;.63 qrs DERBY SMITHFIELD—JUNE 18. There was a good supply of fat beasts, and at forvil prices. The demand was flat, and a clearance not effected'A good supply of sheep an d lambs, maintaining for prices. The supply of calve s was l arge . F a t pigs we' , in better supply. Beef 7ld to 7id Veal 6a to 6 4 Mutton ... 7d to lid Pork Lamb .. Sid to 9d Rough fat, 4s 9d per storte . Hides, 31d to 44d ; calf skins, 5d to 6d. TH - F 111.AlLS. MAILS DUE. Anahaila, Ceylon, and Mauritius (via South ampton) July Do. (via Marseilles) July Brazil and Cape - Verds J u ly 4.1 Buenos Ayres, Monte Video, &c. Cuba and Mexico .. • Awe ' 43 ' Canada, &c. (via L'derry) • o ve rdue. Cape of Good Hope, &c. July 2 ' China, Penang, and Singapore (via . S'ampton) July Do Gibraltar (via Southampton) India (Calcutta), Ceylon, &c. (via Southampton) Overd_ e a) June Ai. Do. (via Marseill June 25. India (Bombay), (via Southampton) .• •. Overdue. Do. (via Marseilles) • • .. June 21. Marseilles) June Lisbon .. • • • 'l,O - Malta, Egypt, and Aden (via Sou . thanaß • • Do. Vigo, and Oporto .. .._ • • United States, California, &e. • • . • • • • June 26. June e e 2 19 1; W We e s st te l rn nd C ie o s a an s d of p A ac t ifi ric o a , , c (v M:i i d M e a ira g ar e s n ,eT a ill : ee c ne u r i b ff a, e Br . o .. July jane 2180.. BIRTHS. BRETT.—On the 20ththeinwsti.f,e aotflH7,enDryoutygtortr E . s iVf q. e , c lc o i BotleYwnnibnusroginss.qutharee'lBthat i3 B o , y P d l s iv . i?lag a e west of son w l9 if th e o i f us ß t., Re m A at 10, Great George•stre etl Westminster, the Hon. Mrs, John Gilbert Talbot, of 6 son: la or thet e TAgLeRntOTS: MARRIAGES. ABRAM—ARDING.—On the 19th inst., at St. Andrew ' ' Holborn, Geo rge Abram, Esq., of Myddelton-sclul„. re ' and Middle T emple, to Ann,youngest daughter of d""' Arding, Esq., o f K ing's-road, Bedford-row. LußuocK—WooD—On the 18th inst , at North c l " s of High El ms, 1 Church, Nevile, third son of Sir John W. Lubbock, ,„t Farnborough, Kent, to Harriett Cl lotte, second d aug h ter of Western Wood, Esq., of North Cray-pl ace, Kent. DEATHS. ALDOUS.—On the 19th inst., Jane, wife of William Alc lol * Esq., of Cr aven -hill, Hyd e -p ar k. DR Ros.--On the 19th inst., at 122, Piccadilly, Rear-Ad' miral the Hon. Frederick Fitz Gerald De Ros, aged 57. DUNK.—On the 19, at 3, North-terrace, Camberwell, William Dunk, of Beltring House, East Peckham, gen t aged 60. SAWYER.—On the 19th inst., at 60, Myddelton-square' Edward Sawyer, Esq., of the Treasury, aged 64. SEXTON.—On the 19th inst., at Springfield Lodge, New' road, Hammersmith, Middlesex, John Sexton, Et* , aged 72. SPURS.—On the 19th inst., at St. Leonard's-on .Sea Chap'Spurs, Esq., of Amhurst-aoad, Hack ne y, and , Spit - square, aged 67. LONDON : Printed and Published by MIMI* YOUNG, o f No. 112, Strand, Printer, at TDB SUN Office, No. 112,stra a, p s in the Precinct of the S avoy, i n the County of WOW° Friday,_ Jun© 21, 1561,