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SPAIN. " MINISTRY OF THE INTERIOR " ROYAL ORDER. " Her Majesty, the Queen Regent being desirous to avoid the pernicious consequences resulting from the license of those journals, the publication of which has been permitted, or may hereafter be permitted, for the purpose of promoting the, benefits arising from the dif fusion of knowledge, and of preparing the way for the improvements about to be introduced in the various branches of the public administration, and being con vinced that the true interests of the enlightened men who devote themselves to the noble profession of writ ing for the pqblic consists in not being confounded with those who profane it by their malice or their ignorance, and who endeavour with culpable obsti nacy to make it.odious, has thought fit to approve of the following REGULATIONS TO BE OBSERVED IN THE CENSORSHIP OF THE JOURNALS ESTABLISHED BY THE ROYAL DECREE OF TR'F. 4TH OF JANUARY, 1834. " Art. 1. Publications not technical, or which do not treat exclusively of the arts, of the natural sci ences, or of literature, are not to be published without an express royal license through the Ministry of the Interior, as provided for by the 22d article of the royal decree above quoted. " ' Art. 2. The applications to this effect are to be addressed to the Home Department through the civil governors of provinces, who will report on the pro priety of the concession, and on the situation of those who propose to act as editors of each journal. " Art. 3. This situation should be the same as that required by the 10th article of the royal decree of the 20th May last, with regard to the qualification of electors for Procuradores to the Cortes. " Art. 4. In the event of her Majesty thinking fit to grant a Royal permission for the publication of a journal, the applicant is to deposit the sum of 20,000 reals, 200/1, for Madrid, and 10,000 reals (1001.) for the provinces, in money, in the hands of the civil go vernor'; or the sum of 40,000 or 20,000 reals respec tively in capital stock, which deposit is to be liable for the fines that may be incurred. " Art. 5. The journals are to remain subject, in all their articles; to a previous censorship, except such as are referred to in article I. "' Aft- 6. h o consorship is to be exercised in Madrid by four Royal censors, and by one in each of the cities of Barcelona, Cadiz, Corunna, Santiago, Pamplona, Granada, Malaga, Seville, Palma de Mal lorca, and Valencia, without prejudice to the establish ment of - others in places where they may be considered necessary, and where funds are provided for their en dowment. In Madrid there shall likewise be named four supernumeraries, and two in each of the other cities above mentioned. " ' Art. 7. The civil governors will propose three persons to her Majesty through the Minister of the Interior, such as they think fitted for this duty by their intelligence and impartiality and whose political opi nions are in harmony with the conservative principles which are sanctioned in the Estatuto Real. " Arta 8. The Royal Censors of Madrid will en joy a salary of 2001. sterling per annum ; those of the other•cities above specified, 120/. ; and those of the remaining places where they may be required, such a salary as may be consistent with the amount of the duties required of them. " Art. 9. The duties of the censors are— " 1. To review the journals on the day on which they are presented by the editors, and other writings as soon as possible after being transmitted to them by the -civil governors. , 2. To report to the civil governor respectively the fact that an article has been disapproved of or al tered on the very day of the publication of the jour nal subject to revision. " 3. To prepare and transmit every four months to the civil governor, a succinct memorial on the state of the press, and especially of the journals, pointing out the means which experience has suggested as best fitted to promote the real diffusion of knowledge, and at the same time to avoid the abuses to which printing is liable. " 4. And lastly, to discharge the other duties im posed on them by the decree of the 4th of January last. " 4 Art. 10. The supernumerary censors will revise the works transmitted to them for this purpose by the civil governors, and in the absence of the principal censors will supply their place ; but for this duty they are to receive no salary nor any advantage, but that of being preferred on a vacancy, if by their conduct they have not proved themselves unworthy of it. "' , Art. 11. The Royal censors will not only allow the publication in the journals of writings on the matters referred to in the Ist, 2d, 3d, and 4th articles Of the above Royal decree, but also on morals, admi-' nistration, and politics. " Art 12.—The censors will not permit the in sertion in the journals— " First, of articles which teach doctrines or maxims having a tendency to alter or destroy religion, the re spect for the rights and prerogatives of the Crown, the Estatuto Real, and the other fundamental laws of the monarchy. " Second, of such as are calculated to excite re bellion or to disturb the public tranquillity. " Third, of such as excite, directly or indirectly, to the infringement of any law or to the disobedience of any legitimate authority by means of satires or in vectives, even when the authority attacked or the place of his residence is pointed out by allusion or allegory only, whenever the censors are of opinion that certain determinate persons or constituted authorities or cor porations are referred to. " Fourth, of licentious compositions and such as are inconsistent with the public morals. " Fifth, of injurious and defamatory libels, which stain or wound the private reputation and conduct of individuals, whether private or in the service 'of the public; and, although not pointed out by name, if suggested by anagrams, allegories, or in any other way whatever, as often as the censors are convinced that determinate persons are alluded to. 4" And sixth, of such as are injurious to foreign sovereigns or governments, or excite their subjects to rebellion. 6 " Art. 13. The articles communicated to the editors of journals by the authorities whose conduct are to be censured therein, are to be inserted entire on the day succeeding that of their communication at the latest, the editors not having the power to alter or suppress a single word of their contents. 4" Art. 14. The articles which treat of adminis trative or political matters are to be presented for con suf c without addition or amendment. The censor will make in them such alterations as he thinks fit, will preserve the whole of them, and, after signing all the sheets, he will return them to the editor. Art. 15. These very sheets are to be used in the printing-office, and the editors are to be bound to pre serve them, and to present them as often as required for the purpose of comparison. " Art. 16. Prospectuses are also to be subject to censorship, and journalists are not to publish any part Hof their columns in blank. Editors, who in this man ner, or by means -of points, lines, 'or asterisks, or any other similar contrivance, shall indicate the suppres sion of articles submitted to the censorship, shall pay a fine of 201. for the first offence, 401. for the second, and for the third the journal shall be suppressed. " Art. 17. When the acts of disapproval of the same censor are repeated to the number of six, the editor may apply to the civil governor, who will ap point another censor in chief, or a supernumerary. " ' Art. 18. Each editor will transmit to his censor respectively, a copy of his journal on the very day of ifs publication, and another to the civil governor, or to the other chief authority of the town where he resides. " Art. 19. The printer who prints an article which 5s not entirely comformable with the manuscript ap proved of by the censor in terms of the 14th article, As to pay a fine of from 5/. to 301., at the discretion of the civil governor, who will graduate it in concert wi - h his colleagues according to the extent of the al teration ; in the event of a second offence; the fine is to be doubled ; and for a third, he is to be exiled for a year to a distance of at least 20 leagues from the town where he resides. The censor will incur a fine of 10/. if he does not on the very day of publication communicate the act of fraud to the civil governor of the locality. " Art. 20. The printer who prints an article not approved of by the censor is to pay a fine of 20/. for the first offence, 401. for the second, and for the third is to be exiled for two years to a distance of at least twenty leagues from the town where the offence was committed. The censor will incur a fine of 20/. if he does not communicate the fraudulent article to the civil governor or other gubernatorial authority on the very day of publication. " Art. 21. The fines declared in the previous arti cles are to be without prejudice to the rights of private individuals, and to their right of legal indemnification before the competent tribunals. Art. 22. Articles published in other journals, whether in Spain or elsewhere, are to be again subject censorship before being reprinted in any town dis- tinct from that where the license for publication was granted. " Art. 23. Articles communicated to the editors, whether anonymous or otherwise, are to be considered with regard to responsibility as the production of the editor of the journal in which they appear. " ' Art. 24. When the civil government considers a journal or an article calculated to excite to sedition or popular commotion, he may suspend the circulation of that number on his own responsibility, but he ought to transmit two copies of it by the next post to the Minister of the Interior, explaining the motives on which he has acted, that her Majesty may decide thereupon. The civil governor of the capital of the kingdom will do this at the moment of taking his re colution. • • Art. 25. The printer or bookseller who sells copies of a prohibited number is to pay 500 times the amount of the price for each copy sold. "' Art. 26. The salaries of the censors, as well those of Madrid as of the provinces, are to be paid, until some other arrangement be decided on, in equal parts, among the printers—one from the proceeds of the privileged journal Diario de la Administration, and one from the profits of the Royal printing-office. " ' Art. 27. The produce of the fines herein esta blished is to be applied by the civil governors of each province to the relief of the most necessitous of its beneficent establishments, rendering a regular account, together with monthly advices, to the Ministry of the Interior. " ' Art. 28. The journals now published under a regular royal license will continue subject to the fore going provisions. The civil governors will allow the present editors the interval of a month to provide the security stipulated in the 4th article, after which, unless furnished, the publication must cease.' " This I communicate by Royal order for your in formation, that it may be fulfilled. " May God preserve you many years. " JOSE MARIA DE MOSCOSO DE ALTAMIRA. " Aranjuez, June 1, 18.34." SECOND. EDIT) N : SUN OFFICE, Seven o'clock. THE LONDON GAZETTE THIS EVENING. ST. JA%IES'S-PALACE, JUNE 18. This day had an audience of his Majesty, the Count Bjornstjerna, Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipo tentiary from the King of Sweden and Norway, and Count Mandelsloh, Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipo tentiary from the King of Wurtemberg, to take leave upon going to the Continent on leave of absence :—To which they were introduced by Lord Viscount Palmerston, his Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for Foreign Af fairs, and conducted by Sir Robert Chester, Knight Mas ter of the ceremonies. WHITEHALL, JUNE 20, The King has been pleased to direct letters patent to be passed under the Great • Seal of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, constituting and appointing Charles Earl Grey, K. G. ; the Right Honourable John Charles Spencer (commonly called Viscount Althorp); Robert Vernon Smith, Esq. ; the Honourable George Ponsonby ! Robert Graham, Esq. ; and Captain George Stevens Byn,g ; to be Commissioners for executing the offices of Treasurer of the Exchequer of Great Britain, and Lord High Treasurer of Ireland.• WHITEHALL, JUNE 19, The King has been pleased to direct letters patent to be passed under the Grdat Soal of the United Kingdom, granting the office or place of Advocate-General or Judge Martial of his Majesty's forces, to Robert Cutler Fergus son, Esq. The King has also been pleased to direct letters patent to be passed under the Great Seal of the United Kingdom, granting to Andrew Leith Hay, Esq., the office of Clerk of the Ordnance. WAR-OFFICE, JUNE 20, 1834. 4th Regiment of Dragoon Guards— Serjeant J. Andnews to be Quartermaster, vice Lawless deceased, June 20. 7th Dragoon Guards—Serjeant-Major T. Adams to be Quartermaster, vice Johnson, appointed Adjutant, June 20. 10th Regiment of Light Dragoons—Ensign N. E. Blackall, from the 85th Foot, to be Cornet, vice Domville, who exchanges, June 20. 15th Light Dragoons—Captain T. Tait, from half-pay 6th West India Regiment, to be Captain, vice A. F. Blythe, who exchanges, June 20. 2d Regiment of Foot—R. K. Newcome, Gentleman, to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Lighton, who retires, June 20. 7th foot—Lieut. R. Norman to be Captain, by pur chase, vice Pery, who retires, June 20. 22d Foot—Ensign J. Chalmers to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Dawes, who retires ; J. Stewart, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Chalmers, June 20. 36th Foot—Captain W. H. Scott, from half-pay Un attached, to be Captain, vice C. C. M`Carthy, who ex changes, receiving the difference, June 20. 39th Foot—Ensign J. Harvay, to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Child, who retires ; W. Munro, gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Harvey, June 20. 62d Foot—F. E. Scobell, gent., to be Ensign, by pur chase, vice Palmer, who retires, June 20. 65th Foot—Ensign R. Parke, from half-pay 97th Foot, to be Ensign, without purchase, June 20. -72 d Foot—Capt. Hon. W. H. Beresford, from half-pay Unattached, to be Captain, vice A. Chisholm, who ex changes, receiving the difference, June 20. 75th Foot—Major W. Cox, from the Cape Mounted riflemen, to be Major, vice Burney, who exchanges, June 20. 85th Foot—Cornet Compton C. Domville, from the 10th Light Dragoons, to be Ensign, vice Blackall, who exchanges, June 20. Cape Mounted Riflemen—Major W. Burney, from the 75th Foot, to be Major, vice Cox, who exchanges, June 20. DECLARATIONS OF INSOLVENCY. JOHN CLARK, linen-draper, Godalming, Surrey. SAMUEL BRADY, grocer, Kingston-upon-Thames. BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED. HENRY CAPPER, tea-dealer, Strand. BANKRUPTS. THOMAS CONROY, wine-merchant, Leiceister place, Leicester-square, to surrender June 28, at ten, and Aug. 1, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Hor ton, New-street, Bishopsgate ; Carman, Lothbury, offi cial assignee. OLIVER DELANY WARD, otherwise OLIVER DE LANCEY WARD, merchant, Manchester, July 1 and Aug. 1, at two, at the Commissioner's-rooms, Man chester. Heald, Warnford, Throgmorton-street, London ; Heald, Manchester. JAMES SMITH, currier, Liverpool, July 9, and Au gust 1, at one, at the Clarendon-rooms, Liverpool. Chester, Staples Inn, London ; Finlow, Clarendon-build ings, Liverpool. EDWARD BROWN, cotton-spinner, Heaton Norris, Lancashire, July 1, and Aug. 1, at one, at the Commis sioners'-rooms, Manchester. Hampson, Manchester ; Ad lington, Gregory, and Faulkner, Bedford-row, London. RICHARD NOTT, jun., RICHARD NOTT, sen., and WILLIAM DE LISLE NOTT, iron -merchants, Bristol, July 8, and Aug. 1, at two, at the Commercial rooms, Bristol. Clarke and Medcalf, Lincoln's Inn-fields, London; Savery and Clark, Bristol. ROBERT BRIDGES, grocer, Twickenham, Middle sex, June 28, and Aug. 1, at one, at the Court of Bank ruptcy. Wire, St. Swithin's-lane, London ; Turquand, Copthall-buildings, official assignee. THOMAS ATKINSON, chemist, Gloucester, July 1, ane Aug. 1, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Groom, Abchurch-lane, official assignee ; Pearce, Chatham, Kent; and Walmsley, Keightle, and Parkin, Chancery-lane, London. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT, THIS EVENING. HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the chair at 25 minutes past five o'clock. Colonel EVANS brought up the report of the Ge neral Steam Navigation Company's Bill. Mr. C. WOOD moved for new writs for the borough of Finsbury, and the stewartry of Kirkcud bright. Colonel WOOD presented some petitions from parishes in Westminster, against drunkenness and for the better observance of the Sabbath. . . Mr. LENNARD presented a petition from parishes in Essex, in favour of Dissenters. Mr. CLAY presented a petition from Limehouse relative to the Commissioners of Sewers. „.._ Lord HENNIKE R presented petitions from parishes in the county of Suffolk, against the claims of Dis senters. _ _ Lord C H AND 0 S presented petitions from parishes in Buckingham and Lancaster, against the claims of Dissenters. Mr. GOULBURN presented a petition from 111 resident members of the senate of the University of Cambridge, against the admission of the Dissenters' Bill. Mr. SHAW moved the first reading of the bill for the more effectual service of processes in the Court of Chancery. Mr. G. W. WOOD moved the second rending of the bill for the admission of Dissenters into Universities. Mr. E STC OU RT rose to oppose the motion; but in consequence of the noise prevailing in the house, the first few sentences of the hon. member were quite inaudible. According to the proposition of the honourable member opposite, if the system of edu cation pursued at the universities was good, it ought to be extended ; that was a self-evident proposition, which he (Mr. Estcourt) did not mean to controvert, but he suspected that the hon. member had behind backs another proposition, the object of which was to affect the system of edu cation now pursued at the universities of Oxford and Cambridge. ( Hear, hear.) If the system at present pursued was good, he (Mr. E.) would be the first to assist him in extending it, but he feared that was not the system which the hon. member ad vocated. The system pursued at the universities was strictly and essentially a religious one, and he feared that the object of the hon. member was to de stroy, it. ( Hear, hear.) If there was any doubt upon that point, he believed it had been settled at a recent meeting of a very large body of the Dis senters, at which the hon. member for Leeds was pre sent. That hon. gentleman had stated that the Dissenters did not want the degree of Doctor of Divinity, but they certainly did wish to enjoy the privileges of the universities, so far as professor ships and scholarships went. The hon. gentleman hav ing stated that as the opinion of the dissenters,could there be a question that their object was to destroy the system of education pursued there. He believed the real ob ject of the dissenters was ultimately to put an end to what was termed the unjust and unnatural union exist ing between the church and the state. ( Hear, hear.) The bon. gentleman denies this, but if he does not say so there are others who do so. ( Cries of hear, hear. ) He would,say therefore that it was the evident inten tion of the hon. member to demolish and destroy the established church ; and hoiv did he mean to proceed? First, they were to give the people a reli gious education, meaning it to be understood that there was a want of religious education at this moment. He (Mr. Estcourt) would assert that the academic education was essentially religious, and that it was impossible tb separate religion from the pre sent system of education, because religion was the basis of education; and to the degree that they counteracted or weakened religious education, to the same degree they undermined education itself. What were the reasons for this application ?—had there been any complaints, and who were they that objected to the pre sent system of education? Perhaps the hon. gentleman Mr. Wood (we believe), supposed that there was some difficulty in obtaining young men to enter the university. So far from that being the case, every part of the university was overflowing, and those interested in any change in the present system of education, were per fectly satisfied with that which was, by this bill, sought to be taken from them. If it were intended that edncation should be confined to the communication of information, upon science and literature, there would then be no great danger in admitting dissenters to the universities, bnt where the education was essentially religious it was impossible that dissenters should be admitted with out the apprehension of the most serious consequences. It was impossible to carry on a religious education where there were persons of a different persuasion at one university without the compromise of religious feelings. He knew that at one of the great schools there was a regulation that the articles of the church should form part of a lecture, and that they constituted a part of the half yearly examinations, which took place at that university. ( Hear.) The students were examined upon them, not only to show that they had a proper idea of religious subjects, but that they had advanced considerably in their know ledge upon those points, so as to be required to pass a very efficient examination. If an alteration in the University at Oxford was to be made, so as to permit of the admission of persons of all persuasions into that University, ;here would have to be a dispensation of that which was the foundation of their regulations. (LEFT SPEAKING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY took his seat on the woolsack, a few minutes after four o'clock. The bills on the table were forwarded a stage. The Dundee Goal Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed on Monday. THE ESTABLISHED CHURCH. Lord DYNE VOR presented petitions for the pro tection of the established church, from different parishes in Norfolk. The Marquis of BRISTOL presented similar pe titions from parishes in Somersetshire. Lord 'ROLLE presented similar petitions from parishes in Devon and Cornwall. The noble lord stated that the petitions from Devon were signed by a great number of the Dissenters of that county. The Earl of WINCHILSEA presented petitions in support of the Established Church from parishes in the counties of Essex, Hants, Surrey, and Huntingdon. The Duke of WELLINGTON presented similar petitions from parishes in Norfolk. The Bishop of ST. A SAPH presented petitions from parishes in Caernarvon, in favour of the established church ; and from parishes in Montgomery, against the claims of the Dissenters. _ The Duke of GLOUCESTER presented similar petitions from parishes in Northumberland. The Marquis of BUTE presented similar petitions from parishes in Durham. BEER BILL. The Earl of HARROWBY presented petitions from parishes in York, against the Beer Bill. CRIMINAL CODE. Viscour A t MELVILLE presented petitions from Dalkeith, for a revision of the Criminal Code. COMMON FIELDS ENCLOSURE BILL. On the motion of Lord . ELLENBOROUGH the Com mons Fields Enclosure Bill passed through committee, and the report was ordered to be received on Monday. COUNTY CORONERS' BILL. On the motion of Lord WHARNCLIFFE, the County Coroners' hill was read a second time, and or dered to be committed on Monday. The Earl of WINCHIL SE A gave notice that on Monday next he would present a most nume rously signed petition, praying that Protestants in the army abroad might be relieved from attend ing or assisting in Roman Catholic processions or ceremonies. He also wished to know whether the noble earl (Grey) would have any objec tion to lay a copy of the proceedings of a court martial, held upon an officer whose name escaped us, for a remonstrance to his superior officer when or dered on duty for such a purpose. Earl GREY said the courtmartial had been held upon the officer alluded to in consequence of a breach of orders—he believed it would be inconienient to lay the proceedings before the house—such a thing was unusual. The Duke of WELLINGTON said a few words, but in so low a tone of voice as to be almost inaudible. We understood him to say that he had looked over the proceedings of the courtmartial, and found them to be quite correct, as the officer alluded to had most clearly committed a breach of orders. He did not think it would be proper that the proceedings should be produced. Numerous petitions for support to the Established Church were presented by Earl HOWE from places in the county of Leicester, and by the Bishop of EisETER from parishes in the county of Devon. The Earl of ROSEBERRY presented a petition from Brecon, against church patronage. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said that on a former evening in the absence of the noble earl (Grey), he had asked the noble marquis (Lans downe) a question relative to the time the house might expect to receive a copy of the ratified treaty, with regard to the Peninsula. On that occasion, he was very jocular, and, though he gave him no inform ation in regard to his question, ho told him that his friend Don Miguel was coming to this coun try, and was then safe on board an English ship of war—in that it n ow t urne d out h e w as misinformed, and was not so well aware of what was going on as from his position he ought to be. However, letting that pass, he then wished to ask what the Government intended to do with the Illustrious Prince who had been detained at Portsmouth for above a week. The person and the case of that Prince was of very deep interest to the whole of Europe. How long he had been detained there unnecessarily he did not know, but he saw it rumoured very widely, that there had been a sort of mission sent down to Ports mouth, in fact, that an under secretary of state had been there trying by intimidation, or some other means, to induce that illustrious prince to give up that which was his birthright. ( Hear.) Those reports were so general that he thought he was doing the noble earl a great service in giving him an opportunity of nega tiving them. He would contend that that prince was as much entitled to the protection and the hospitality of this country as Charles the Tenth, or any other unfortunate prince who had been driven into it. He trusted the time had not arrived when a British go vernment would force a prince to abandon his birth right by any means whatever. He hoped the house would be favoured with some satisfactory answer, in order that these rumours and statements might be put to rest. Earl GREY said he was much afraid that in what he had then to say, he would give the noble marquis as little satisfaction as it had been his misfor tune to do on other occasions. In the outset he must disclaim that it was the duty of govern ment to make statements in that house, merely because other statements had been made or appeared in other places. There had been a mission to Portsmouth, but' with respect to the object of it, or to what passed there, if the noble earl ( Vane) would bring forward a motion upon the subject, he (Earl Grey) would be prepared to meet him ; at present he would say no more than that Don Carlos, whether he was or was not the proper and legitimate heir to the Crown, whatever might be his situation, or whatever might be the consequences of that situation, had been re ceived here as a Prince, of the Blood Royal, ' of Spain, and would be treated with all the respect belonging to him in that character. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, that so far as regarded the respect shown to Don Carlos, by some of the reports he had seen, it ap peared that he had been obliged to take a hackney coach. ( Laughter.) The house had never yet been made aware of what had made the Government depart from that neutrality to which they stood pledged, both to the parliament and the country. He would most, distinctly ask whether the mission was not for the purpose of getting. Don Carlos either by intimidation or by promises to give up that right which he most undoubtedly had to the throne of Spain. Earl GREY said in a sharp manner—Whenever the ratifications are received in a proper state, they will be laid before the house, and if the noble earl will then bring forward a motion, I will most undoubtedly be prepared to meet him. The Earl of ELDON rose to call their 'Lord ships/attention to a very unusual 'circumstance that had taken place in their House that day, and which he believed had occurred once before, namely, that judgment had been given in cases in the absence ofAhe noble lord on the Woolsack, or any one who was appointed by commission to be the deputy Speiiker. He would take the liberty of saying there was nothing that he had More at heart than to see the business of the House of Lords should be conducted in the course and in the manner it had been so long conducted, be cause he would venture to say that the esteem and respect of the subjects of this country, for the House of Lords, as a Court of Judicature, was greater than any other tribunal in the country. It was neces sary and proper that the interests of the tailors should be properly abjudicated upon, and he should give notice of a motion to the effect that no appeal should be heard without a certain number of law lords being present. ( Hear, hear. ) The LORD CHANCELLOR was quite sure that his noble and learned friend was aware that no one felt more strongly than he did that the greatest ' possible care should be taken to keep in due and regular form, and according to the ordinary form of proceeding, the judicial business of that house, but it was perfectly well known that he was "not to sit there that day, for he had made an appointment to sit at ten o'clock in the morning at Lincoln's Inn Hall, to hear an appeal, in which the suitors were and in which the parties from the country were kept waiting in town. It was well known that, in con sequence of the 'necessary absence of the Chancel lor, who was' the principal Speaker of the house, the Crown had always, by commission, given the power generally to a deputy speaker to sit and porform the office of Speaker. He was quite sure his noble and learned friend did not mean to say there had never been before a deputy speaker, because while the noble and learned lord held the great seals, he (the Lord Chancellor) bad argued times without number cases before his deputies who consisted of the Lord Chief Baron of the Ex chequer, the Lord Chief Justice of the King's Bench, and his Honor the Master of the Rolls. There were individuals not Peers appointed to sit as deputy speakers followed that practice, there had been a commission given to more than one on the present oc casion ; among the commissioners were two noble lords, had who belonged to the profession of the law, the noble easl who was chairman of the committee of that house, and who did not belong to the profession of the law. He believed there had been some misunderstanding, because his noble friend the Lord Chief Justice of the King's Bench, had been unexpectedly detained in another place.. There certainly was no law-lord present when the learned judges gate judgment ; the, consequence of which was, that they would either have to give their opinions to a Tory lord, which seemed to strike his learned and noble friend as something too horrible to be borne ( Hear and laughter) or they would have to go away and come back on another occasian. He begged lease to observe, he was not answerable for their having given their opinions to a Tory lord. He was not there at the time, but the moment he heard of it, his answer was, that if the 'Lord Chief Justice of the King's Bench were still retained, let him know, and he would break up the Court of Chancery, and go down to the House of Lords instantly. He hoped his noble and laarned friend would reflect a little before he made his motion, for he (the Lord Chancellor), could not possibly help thinking, npon constitutional grounds, regard being had to the nature of the functions of that house, it would be very awkward, not to say impossible, for them, to put upon their shoulders a resolution which amounted to this, that the whole of the peers were not competent to discharge .the judicial business of that house. If the house adopted the resolution of which his noble friend had given notice, it would deprive itself of the exercise of one of the highest functions it could possibly exercise, without the presence and nominee of the Crown. He would put it upon consti tutional grounds, whether the house would not for the first time admit that the Crown had a right to interfere in the performance of the judicial functions of the house. It was true that the house issued the commis sion for the appointment of a Deputy Speaker, but it was equally as true that the house could at any time name a Deputy Speaker for a day or an hour. If it was meant to be said that the Speaker or Deputy Speaker should be present before the house put its question to the judges, that was nearly as much as saying, " Don't put a question to the judges, don't take upon you judicial business, without the presence of a law lord." Now that he (the Lord Chancellor) objected to. The constitution of the country might be badly contrived, but by the constitution lay lords as well as law lords had a right to judge of all legal matters in that house - that was the legal and constitu tional view o f the subject For these reasons he hoped that his noble and learned friend would re-consider the subject before lie brought forward his mo tion, pointing out such distinctions as he had ad verted to. ( Hear, hear, hear.) Having made these observations he felt himself bound to put their lordships in possession of some of the facts of the case. ( Hear, hear.) A case came before the house, in which the Judges came to a unanimous decision, no judgment of the house was then given, but the of the judges was taken. The decision of the house on the subject was given yesterday when lie was present, in which he took no small part, and in which, cxemplgry justice was done, by the appeal being dismissed with costs. ( Hear, hear.) In the other case the parties bringing the appeal abandoned their ca se, and the Judges dismissed the appeal with costs. Such was the state in which matters stood, lie agreed with th the noble lord, that it would be much better if some of the deputy speakers were present, but if they were engaged elsewhere no other course could be adopted. The Earl of ELDON could assure the house that nothing personal to hi noble friend on the woolsack had induced him to bring the subject forward ; his only anxiety was that the forms of the house should be observed. (LEFT SPEAKING.) ANCIENT tonis.--Several ancient coins of silver were found a few weeks ago, in a peat-moss in the western part of Pentland-hills, on the property of Baddingsgill, belonging to Charles Perrier, Esq. They were lying about two feet below the surface, and were discovered in the process of digging the peats, at a place near the Drove Road, which passes across the hills from Linton by Cauldstane-slap. One is of Henry 111. of England, 1216. Henry is repre sented with a full face, and a sceptre in his right hand ; crown, a row of pearls of five points, with a cross raised upon the middlemost—Reverse, a double lined cross, terminating at the inner circle, and four pellets in each quarter. The others are of William the Lion of Scotland, 1165, coined at Perth, Rox burgh, and Edinburgh ; a lion's head and sceptre— Reverse, a cross and crescent and pellet in each quar ter. These coins bear marks of being a little worn by use, but are otherwise in good preservation. They are thin, and rather smaller than our present shillings.-- IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. ROUSE OF LORDS, June 19. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the wool sack at half-past four o'clock. The Duke of WELLINGTON presented petitions from many different places in the county of Somerset, Kent, Buckingham, Oxford, and Sussex, for protec tion to the Church of England ; and from a place in Scotland for protection to the Church of that country. The Earl of ROSSLYN presented similar peti tions from Scone. The. Archbishop of CANTERBURY presented thirty-two petitions from as many places in the coun ties of Kent, Sussex, and Surrey, for protection to the Established Church. On the motion of the Bishop of LONDON, the Hammersmith Vicarage Bill was read a third time and passed. The Duke of WELLINGTON presented several petitions from places in Somersetshire and other coun ties praying for protection to the Established Church. Lord LORTON presented a petition from the clergy of the diocese of Elphin, in Ireland, praying to be relieved from the necessity of building glebe houses. WARWICK DISFRANCHISEMENT BILL. Counsel and witnesses were then called in on this bill. Lord Denman and Lord Wynford sat at the table for the Lord Chancellor. Several witnesses were examined. On the conclusion of the examination of a witness named Thomas Satan, a beershop-keeper, residing in Warwick, Mr. Sergeant Heath applied to have him committed, on the ground that he had sworn no beer was served out to the Orange party after the 30th of November, or during the days of the election, although on refe rence to his books it appeared that, up to the 11th of December, and during the days of the election, not only was beer served to the Orange party, but that the greater portion of the items in the account was for the beer supplied between the 30th of November and, the 11th of December. Lord W YNFO RD expressed regret that an appli cation of the same kind had not been made with refe rence to several preceding witnesses. He believed that if such an application had been made much of their lordships' time would have been saved and a. great deal of perjury prevented. Before their lordships en tertained the application, it would be necessary to have the short-hand writer's notes of the witness's evidence read over to him. The witness was then called in and the notes of his evidence read over to him. On its appearing from the short-hand writer's notes that the witness had not positively sworn, although he had said sufficient to raise the impression, that no beer was served from his shop after the 30th of November, After a short conversation, in which Lord Wynford, the Duke of Wellington, the Duke of Cumberland, the Duke of Richmond, the Earl of Radnor, and Lord Denman took part, the application for the wit ness's committal was refused. Joseph Satchell, John Stanley, William Pickering, and Ann Maunders, publicans, residing in Warwick, were severally examined respecting the treating al leged to have taken place, dur►ng the election, at their houses. William Hewlitt proved the delivery of orange ban ners to various persons on the written orders of indi viduals belonging to the orange committee. At a quarter-past nine, the further hearing of the case was postponed until Monday next, at four o'clock, and the house adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, June 19. The SPEAKER resumed the chair at the usual hour. A message from the Lords announced their lord ships' assent to several bills. Mr. G. W. WOOD presented a petition from Worsley, in Lancashire, against granting any increased allowance to coroners; also a petition from several of the attorneys of Lancashire in favour of the Common Pleas Removal Bill; and another petition from a place in Lancashire, the name of which we could not hear, against the 38th clanse of the Poor Laws' Amendment Bill. Mr. HUME moved for a return of the number of persons drawn by ballot for the Middlesex militia in 1831, 1832, and 1833, together with a return of the number of substitutes, and the sums paid to procure such substitutes for the same period. Also for returns of the amount of custom duties to 1834 returned from the various ports of the British colonies, together with an account of the manner in which these duties have been appropriated ; the number of officers employed at each port, and the amount of salary paid to each. ,The hon. member also moved for a continuation of the returns of 1833 to the 18th of the present month of the number of midshipmen of the Royal Navy that have been promoted to the rank of lieutenants ; the number of lieutenants promoted to the rank of commanders ; and the number of commanders promoted to the rank of post captains. He also moved for a return of the number of courtsmartial held, and the punishments that had taken place under sentences of those courts martial, for the same period. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL gave notice that on Tuesday next he should introduce a bill for the better uniformity of all proceedings in cases of wills with reference to real property, and also a bill for giving to certain associations the privilege of suing and being sued by their secretary. REFORM BILL. Colonel E VANS rose to bring under the consider ation of the house the motion of which he had given notice for an alteration in those clauses of the Reform Bill which had reference to taxation and the payment of rates. He by no means wished to interfere with the general principle of the bill ; and, as he was de sirous of retaining the principle throughout, if the noble lord opposite would consent to the substitution of October for that of April, as the time of paying up rates, he should be satisfied. He saw by the noble lord that he was not disposed to agree to his sugges tion, and he should therefore proceed to submit to the house some resolutions which he had drawn up on the subject. It was well known that before the Reform Bill was passed the most frightful source of corrup sleeyootafPvacpcetallole\rslvreryaais i t not notorious corrup tion at all elections were the rates, and unless an al wtebraicthio n h is motion were referred, r t r h e e d , clausesthi this coor corruption o t the i f tl iat con tinue, and might be practised as extensively as for bill had never become law. The practice was h the to Parliament to pay the rate. able or willing to such of the voters as d w i notterreetorßill, to n to obtain from them pay them themselves, and agent at any borough or town q th by at a s n e t n ic t ip m at e io m n e fo r r s candidate that the agent Reform f°rm would i a promise to support slightest He votes s y . f th u u . s hic s i e i c l u ie re c d om th p e la a i g ne e d nt vi s ,a e s t t o lh' g iesr it ; but he should nevertheless sub mit f a knewc candidate n mt d ht o i ha d tnai a ot t tn e oi frhilcet abolishehl e y h at nobledo t h a n n i os s t r , ls • toy e hrs r edt e his m .vi oppositee w s. to the house as facts the resolutions which might p T e h out r e l result sele c Of the i clause The y he had Bill had totally failed to extend thefranchise elective to anything like the degree t prepared.s ol chanceio pf u ; l nre d pt that was expected ? The expectation of the country was that that measure would give a general constituency of at least one million of voters, but such was f ar f • from being the fact, for it only gave 570,000, that was 430,000 less than the country were taught to expect. Then look at the constitution of that house, what change did the Reform Bill introduce there ? Why that there were only three placemen less in it now as representatives than before the passing of the Reform Bill. There was still the same collection of placemen and pensioners. There were 167 members who received annually 150,0001. of the public money, and this was besides' those who belonged to the army and navy. Surely then it could not be said that the Reform Bill had worked much good amongst the representatives, and it was admitted by the Government themselves that it had not answered their expectation as regarded their constituency. The hon. member then proposed the following resolutions : " That this house deems it expedient to repeal or miti gate such clauses of the Reform Act as have been found to have an unexpected restrictive operation, particularly those regarding the payment of rates and taxes; and that a re vision of the Reform Act with this view is the more ur gent, because the new constituency has been found to fall short, by almost half a million of voters, of the number Government contemplated, and the public were led to expect ; because the present House of Commons com prises about the same number of family representatives of the hereditary branch of the legislature, and about the same number of placemen, pensioners, or sinecurists, and other dependents of the Crown, which were to be found in I the unreformed parliament which preceded it ; because it is vain to expect an independent line of conduct from a parliainent containing so large a proportion as 169 mem bers who are in the receipt of 150,0001. per annum of the public money; and finally, because this house has in effect entirely failed to satisfy the just expectations of the public." Mr. HUME seconded the motion. His objection to the payment of rates as a qualification to vote re mained unaltered.' There was one Orish in which not less than - 1,580 voters were refusedthe exercise of their franchise on this'account, - and it was the same in many parishes. When the returns were upon the 0 table it would• be seen that, in' place of the million electors promised, the whole number did not emceed 600,000. The question being put from the Chair, Lord ALTHORP was not oppos e d t o a ll a lteration in the mode of registration, but this was quite diffe rent from altering the qualification. The requiring that the rates should be paid up was not quite new in the elective system of this country, for it was formerly required of the scot and lot voters. There was a rat ing in the scot and lot franchise as well as in the pre sent. The lot franchise was the great principle of the Reform Bill, and it was very necessary, therefore, to take care that it should be a bona fide franchise. He was aware that persons who did not pay up their *rates to the sth of April lost their votes, but that was o n e .ln o e ec g . t o o n d T reason that hrae t t -wash e for presentalteringn o n necessity cle os t Ls h et franchise anforci qualification. On th e oontrary, he f e lt conv i nce d, f rom th e resu lt o f t h e last they had to d o was to take care that aseilttewrsihanosgutlihdte. right e gAhl a tl bona fide franchise. For these reasons he was not prepared to make any alteration in it. The resolutions of the hon. and gallant member embraced other topics. One was the number of Peers' sons who had seats in that house. To this there was no objection according to the principles of the constitution. It wits p e rf e ctly free to the constituents whether they would elect them or not. The same observation would apply to the number of placemen now in the house. The number, he believed, was eighty-six. He knew the Reform Bill did not give satisfaction to the hon. and gallant officer. This was always the case when gentlemen found themselves in a minority. He could not assent to the resolutions. M- ROEBUCK d th, lotion, People _ _ ___ supported the out of doors were generally discontented with that provision of the Reform Bill which required the pay ment of the rates up to the sth of April to entitle them to vote. Why should a man be deprived of his vote because he was unable to pay at a certain time, when, perhaps, he might be under merely temporarY difficulties ? Suppose the issues of the Bank to be suddenly contracted, temporary distress and scarcity of money would be the result, and thousands of the poor might thus be deprived of their votes, while the rich retained them. thehp e Mt collector fi e o gtt chrhh ' taCaeot rates_ :Or right p.gaNui have their were eeo L enfond. L lmetlspoh s eorw a ecni x i rv d cesefeoyfoetdr t narvo h idrsenm a yeoni t clhciywrsiveehaenciresl government pocket.c ercimsrßtiNoptn. re al m gb etafeiuescirbsraeteatu been unsuccessful something to set this question at rest. The inconve niencesr s t ) taxes to be paid up before a man could give his vote was sufficiently proved by what took place at the last dmw e l i h e as pan c lt t ta i election n o for f b buffoonery n b a e r m i r d yb g rai e td . goe impossible or paidtshathe un circumstances, was the most red for a long time, and it might have been lost in conse quence of this very provision of the Reform Bill. The Reform Bill left the constituency much too limited 4 1 this country, not to talk now of Ireland. It fell short by half a million of the number of voters promised, and this was a very good reason for adopting the reso lutions. He was afraid they owed the Reform Bill more to accident than any think else. The late go vernment was turned out of office in consequence of the extraordi nary declaration made by the Duke of Wellington against all reform. The present government succeeded. They proposed a measure of reform which was opposed by the oligarchy, and must have failed if Ministers had not occur brought the people to their support. He had no doubt, however, that they proceeded on the principle of giving as little reform as they could, consistently with their own purposes. With respect to the other part of the motion, he was not disposed either in courtesy or in reason to object to Lords' sons having seats hi that house. It was pretty clear, however, that when once elected they were almost certain of being returned again. Their election for seven years might be con sidered as an election for the whole period during which they could sit in the House of Commons. Taking into account the average duration of life, little more than seven years could elapse before they took their seats in the House of Lords. This Was shown by what took place in Perthshire. Ile hoped the first resolution at least would be acceded to ; if not he was disposed to accede to the whole of the motion. Mr. T. ATT WOOD, when the Reform Bill was proceeding, understood that in the event of it' being le passed Birmingham would have 18,000 voters. had no more than 4,000 voters, and he had no r eason to complain of them. They returned him, however! and the 18,000 would have done the same. A fraud was committed on the 101. voters by requiring, thelni thus to Pit,y up the rates to a certain day. They P", their rent honestly, and why should they be deprived o' their votes ? He would support the resolution. Lord J. RUSSELL never stated that if the Re formimportant Bill passed Birmingham would have 18,000 voters. This was the•first time he had heard of it. He . did indeed say it would have about 5,00 0 vo ters, and it appeared that it fell'short of that number by only 1,000. As Birmingham was a new borough, and never had the elective franchise before, he thought, if it obtained at the outset about 5,000 voters, it was .., pretty large measure of reform. He was sorry it al" not come up to the hon. gentleman's notio n of pros perity, which was only another name for 1/. notes ( A laugh.) Upon this point a reformed P arliamen refused to concur in the views of the bon. member, tis and therefore it was, perhaps, that he felt s o di"a fied. In the case of Cambridge, alluded to by the hon. and learned gentleman, a great fraud was com mitted, for the officer kept two sets of books, in one Of which the names . of those who paid up their rates were inserted, and in the other not . This was not discovered till after the death of this offi cer. any Reform knew not whether it would be p ossible in Bill to introduce a prov ision for punishing a dead overseer. explained:" He did not ot punished. com plain that adead overseer a w‘ d is ea n d overseer . W hat he . complained of was, that had it in his r while living to deprive men oftheir franchise. power ATTWOODexplained.W Mr. T. of was, not the withdrawal of one-pound notes, but the Mr. O'CONNELL alteration of the standard. It was this that brought ruin on the country. Mr. H. L. BULWER recommended to his lion. and gallant friend to confine the motion to the first resolution. Colonel EVANS said a few words in replY4 and referred to the s p eec h es on the Re f orm Bill to show that a hope had then been held out that a constituen c y of one million would be created by the bill. The house then divided, when there appeared— For the resolutions Against them 124 Majority On our re-admission into the gallery we found Mr. O'CONNELL giving a notice for Monday on the subject of assimilating the laws of fines and reco veries in England and IrelTand. RIBBONRADE. Mr. U. L. BULWER rose, pursuant to notice, to move for leave to bring in a bill for the protection of the ribbon trade by means of prohibition. What he intended to do was to promote the general interest without sacrificing in the least any particular interest . In 1832 it was shown, by a petition presented then to the house, that the poor rates of Coventry had doubled since 1827. By another petition it was shown, that in cer tain parishes of Coventr y , out of 10 , 000 looms en gaged in the ribbon trade, 8,444 were actually unetn ployed. In one parish in the same city, the popula tion of which, consisting chiefly of ribbon amounted to 8,000; it was found that out of that ,ni f ber 3,000 were depending wholly on parish relie s of that was not a strong case made out of those persons, he knew not what .was. Hen had red in t he possession several letters, not from persons the ribbon trade, but from magistrats andgl4'rivate insteadPf de gentlemen, stating that this distress, creasin g, was increasing and this 'mporta ribbon-weavers they all attributed to foreign • digress all Wong the tion. In all things relative to this trade the foreigner .had an advantage over us. In wages, in silk, in dye, and in pattern, there was a most en ormous advantage in favour of the French manufacturer. The value of ribbons imported had lately considerably increased. In 1833 it amoun ted to 110,0001., in 1834 it amounted to 218,000/., or n early double. In France the num ber of French looms engaged in the manufacture of this article had greatly increased, particularly at Saint E tienne, whils t the number of looms in thi9 country was every year diminishing. Besides, Or French had another ad vanta g e over us-the i