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Th. -11 Bod en , th ' e rder of e • reeably to eh st )rfolk -OUSE OF LORDS, MARCH S. ..,- arguments in the part. heard case of lioneyman I'. 4 411 9 the facts of which we gave on Monday at some D ..rere recalled to-d iy, at the conclusion of which the . __,, GI A, hi._ LHANcEr.Lou, gave judgment, affirming the decision lo r n la n n ts "; l j{„i:i escwiseenfirmins the marriage of Miss Cainpbeli with Cington,theDy2'..l, ei.l.4ol)ert Hoaeyinan, and highly complimenting the ,t the part el : n sZil of that lady, whose character, he observ , d, was Linton, Lieut:Ge! 47 1 41 _ , 11!d by spit or blemish, and a union with whom i a i nd ,s e i r r l ol l : oo ; ei te i;utlhblp considered a fit match for the first gentle !gilt a Gra nd - he r e la n d, ' Nit tc l ki) CHANCELLOR took hie seat on the Wool ?hte E ve Minutes past Five o'clock. plow Exchequer Bills Bill was read a third time and ~ Ne e A ..011g w map, , w ere presented by Lord Duarraat from St. tad %;,'i k;o vent-garden, praying for the repeal of the house th e t ~Tuker taxes • and from a parish in Cornwall against C sor Y`ue syst em ; ' also b Lord DACKE, from the Rev. I ,teildt T wiss, against y certain clauses in the Church 8 46 ta g Act. After some short observations from the their Otricet6illo Petit, (4. Winchester and the Duke of Richmond, the vin, rasa slo t, 11 Was read and ordere Ito lie on the table. .... slit , BREACH OF PRIVILEGE. hieb' - sal ' Lena er t'h w at . t n he dre t ti 0 0 ; I..liseftedeNll.AM said he rose to complain of as gross sent IV.„„ n t . re a ts! is t o roe l d ~..o,t privilege as ever had been committed, and lie wed inset of . himself highly culpable if he did nut bring it L o h the inStiiDer _ 0 is a ,s_i_ liad tP I ser r e e i tl ( l i e c onsideration of their Lordships. He was the igiis h . g . %.4 1 7 # 1 t at i l l ,„?cerl to do so because— ' bis e t e7eig lb sei kad verh ultEY here rose. He said he believe! it was AY: the. 74 04 „ t o 10 , 4 0 "'the subject of b - each of privilege was discussed Dr the° 'W o es S t 'et with closed doors. He should therefore move p a nted by . 4 03 0 • str ap reign iirrx,i. , h e gem be ordered to withdraw. Grand I , o `ii, o t . , , e , "ta "'guile below the bar was cleared, and when we that ti l i i c e e n t , oo p sul k— taegt;ll admitted, we understood that the Noble Lord ILgreieo, t? , t 1 a d d ... c omPlaining of a threatening letter which had (pl ' „ t s one used In r e f erence t o hi s l a te speech respect ' was u tter' ” e Fren ch , er ti t‘h eelesiastical arrangements in the archbishopric russiari, P 1 ;1 . to, ilk • . tr(fr3tilfeistteitc,4'llrt Earl t of CARNARVON presented' a petition re- Council, t b . ' ItlE /5. 4 ._, the rights of copyholders, on doing which 0 4 ' • %l e 'D lonic V , D . %r e . Qdrl took occasion to characterise the rhea.' ter, the `ode h, *lntl, had, England , — • '4), ~.. been brought forward rela . tive . to Re the of,_ti' l ljora, f 4 i de 4 a measure forming a new Constitution. He e-chana7 sees Is nitaoti ns i i e, Gol, e ,;A , 11-110 ty attempt to discuss the subject, as he tin in We W . 'Noble Friend of his (Lord Wharncliffe) in rshal, t"" wait ' give notice for an early day,"of a motion whereby remonies. 1 .4 h o . , Leveeed. . tki- question would be brought . forward beforelheir a ht° le te Pl. , j ' 44 ORt . . h a ries , 'lt f e b v: could ncitiMffer:tbe observation which had' int° p oll , e , 11 014, 11 horn the Noble iiazi Opposite to pasa _without v ll'e t,,' '' As, however, it would be extremely -frme r': _ Len Te n° ,..-" '014 , 10 °'-eri o - ', e ,bter into the discussion of so great a question fo rt, qe ex," presentation of petitions, he should follow id, A• wrist lii e "Ple of the Noble Earl in saying but very little on w. aV• 'Object. Y Nel l `• ro that part of the prayer of the petition iso e tie, a:garded copyholders he was preparei not only to is ,kila te n , en T'sent, but assistance. But to what had' fallen '!!rti n ; ,Noble Earl opposite character'zing the plan of Re e... i in fact, forming a new Constitution, against such a !iii le talo n of the character of the measure, for which lie, ; 411 1 ., r n,on with his colleagues was reTfrosible, against liteAL character given to the measure he must enter his teiNatl protest II surd slit j ut •7( . ear.) His , Majesty's Governtnent yit ta, au rodueine, in the measure they had brought NI of y new Constitution. Bat what they were doing l ili so t , lB . character—and - he should be able to prove it /S t ,l'e queetion came before the House—not an endea tteet`e° introduce a new Constitution, but a re teisiele to the principle§ of the old Constitution, Ih e _ 1 Means they would restore it to that confidence ge st , e": 3 Ples minds which it ought to have. He Lail le bad kept that principle in view in every thing which k is 1 dn ne• He had endeavoured to conform to that Pris e e i l l i ,, i e in the plan proposed to the other House. Upon that 14 k i e he contended that the measure was not the form tr4r, ° l n , a , i l 'ely Constitution, but the iecurring to an old 4 lti, e4 , te uich the people had a fair representation in Par tis and of which they had been deprived in later I S itt Ile should be most glad to discuss this question t`ta ltd 4 bY tim e it should please Noble Lords to bring it ke el *li st hltti' W HARNCLIFFE concurred most cordially with S ee _ fallen from the Noble Earl (Carnarvon), that the ()itit'irte brought forward. teas rot Reforas, but a new t 'ss. f uti on. It was his inteution on Monday next to ei u : , , Or certain returns connected with the population of lieb,rti and towns, at which period he intended to enter t or l d bto the dis cuss i on of this quest i on. kill, WYNF ORD was not so well versed as the ItS,a, Earl ( n '1: 1 4 uha ` —r e Y) in the history of the cetnitry, but Imiktetttt ' ,"?ertak e to say that e principles of the present MI were not those on th which the old Constitution 11.14 KING Of looked u•: .on the measure brought forward Its it!tr!iter interest than any thing that had taken I :l l ti eg s T e he eountry since the expulsion of James 11., the k:he ~, w hich was as necessary to preserve the liberties Od Stuart" (Hear)—as the expulsion of the infa- Q l liilifi ed 4 . - -(Hear.) He expressed his cordial and tVI aPprobati on of the plan brought forward it- n i i . ti si ,!, use by the N o bl e L or d (R us s e ll.) Many a '`‘t 6"`" !lo ov been already directed against his Majesty's pre tQtaitternment, yet they had hitherto enjoyed power but ri ot greet °f a year, and behold the result ! Here was t sei leg e ' i tt p u l :o of Parliamentary Reform submitted to I st e 'e a m e and the public,—more than this, the ex eb.,tls,A. . most valuable legal Reforms were in progress ; ,' L it wts true credit was to be ascribed to the No' le N ted .Corot ' 4 4 1 itt4l4_ upon the woalsack, for no one else could r e i,..kr ein f i ed such an undertaking. But had they not dart? 1. 0 411 ' 1 Y exposed the malversation of the Admi tio.„4oeideh,ich he might a dd, th a t serious a bu s es in 7r : ‘ ett ion tepartment would meet with a similar ex teo l i g i t! b uke •--(Hear.) keit tic of WELLINGTON by no means wisiied to %II • ti me ou tht dtseu ssion ; but as the Noble Baron opposit of O tt A,l to apply the epithet ~ malversation" to 115 t!Notzinistration of the Admiralty, in the absence WO it i rk F riend who had conducted that department, th.:44-.4:l4bthte:rilthent on him to notice such a charge. He )1 0 1 24 nl le, the T N , et o ti the sense of justice and candour of himself, whether it would not be infi ilie: the 41 move for certain papers calculated to is 4 eeti 3 , questionto fairly before the House, than thus lis te Pre sent criminate any individual who was Asi e n did to defend himself. When the Noble k tte tk P l 'ulat Bs he would be in his place to give s aid ti Lte he ton s a " might be deemed necessary. In the S e ken t i nn :uought that the Noble Baron might as well / i11, 4 4e e of d I ng matters of such grave importance in the llenl its tile 'e Individual who had for so many years pre tise Oft, ti. dePartinent in question.—(Hear.) He also k eep l t e t h e "lt before the Noble Baron talked of malversa 44e,t4ey of Hies' he might at least have waited till the *1 ini rck. '''!ltte for the Colonies was in his place to )0%110 1 4 4 Ile knew nothing of any such malversation, 4105e144' 44:til:::::Cudrowt:at the Government for the last ten al t h e n 'acquitted of any malversation by a Ali speaking in another place. He t hat, it , tbsne n ': Noble Baron ought in justice to fix a 1410e' With 'or the papers upon which he founded the !:thi eh di sc , • r esPect to another subject which must oc ittie Ited 4 4 ,, he quite agreed in the determination , bp 4 4 . rOttl, t e r " a dopted of postponing all discussions upon 11 ir l e b ,hitt h . Period ; but when the period arrived, he 014 4 "hp 14 Al4jesty's Ministers, who upon their re tti4seethe so kind rought the question under discussion, ott an d hyinxtvhaast t in o fl e u x en pl c a e in to the House in what s7St :P l eat they proposed that the 1 7 . ki t ; et.his et, thus country—the in - onarchical Guvern to - IPsenilPlet, and practice he carried on, according : I 're, eti n ,, u practice n Weil had been established at ' l 4C i e b e k"' 41 14 be,' • .1 1 r that ' 1 ' ylici tl -eofp, 7 in evanen froth time to this. , e lit 4 4 1 1 t fi t e: ; JC- KINGFI4III, as his Noble Kinsman ‘tsh 40 n, &_ ..r Ming forward a charge against the late t,:r l ie ,its etary for the Colonies, wished to know O pt „ le f le io n u li t a to l i. feund fly , proceeding upon it. l l ,„ ata, !tw ee __ !Ron miateken. He had made no e t,,,,, ti, 4t th .aatiun against the colonial department, ..r A_- th e th e oh e existed certain abuses in the adniipis 'el, ie , I , l ° 4. 0 ' 1 , 1 ' 1 , which he hoped would he corrected. tk th e i„sise on i on to think that dim had been malversa- N, 1 J41,_ 'otep. . ik_rNi;red°f iIIiCK INGIIAM—Why did you say so, Pc" le., er.) se7tteet%e o f Rivs. , -- c tal i ,! ) . _f th e i i; s t- ' , 11AIOND said it was the rule and „mythi n ,_ ‘_'..!s!, when a Peer declared that he had I nt . 14t ient 'valet, was imputed to him, to take that e ll ie ,,tile e in c.Pination. The Noble Duke was highly e t ta it uult e oflut,terrupting the Noble Baron. pktieNito,„ 'UCKINGIIA v said, that Noble Lords r i : t e la ,tr ot l iel ° , k f ;I s e h t te :: ( sometimes to use st cessions in the which, upon of er consideration, t i s ktt 4 4 10 " 411 retrac t.jutn(l H e desired to know whether . 4 ) e t i d kiN etn TY fur the Colonic t° charge malversation against isostit tack G te „ l . e °lone s ? I s , ere Ved that he did not. All he meant to 0, t, ail ,. , , extravagance prevailed in the colonial °tiN,Ctellk. ,liscenlirttl'i!ih°Ped• a better system would be k t l t ,'Vl b e . ' , Hy said, and he would repeat it, ti e :f 414 " h4t he'tnalversation in the Admiralty depart iskl L ed 'ley f ro .„,'"nt by malversation was, the obtain ot a pe radiomen: for one branch of the ser- N ee l t ikerd ii 7g.,, e , it on another, and never afterwards 0 ti,„ „, 4-arliament to explain the transaction. v Noble Duke, who desired him to bring the Say 11i. SO P(' ler ( Gar'' ptaill Registrar ru ; , B n and in the ir 4 70/1 .. order in the tad an a udiel ice .l . 30 Ind to hold 'redericic lin de c. 7 Val !r t Cartel", C. Crantrt%J.,,,, d, Chet w i c i joV, Sir ltichk r .„ol, scent O ' S af i ' Fiainittoot of, loyle. ce,c,;Pi Fitzclarenoi) therland, • iitkte ir d J. ai l Jell, Mlc err rball, on 1 3 - 144 on, ,17 5; for reccc!,ooo' ler mnarle sdi% oi r Gr °°- bl r is of ary of SO r .ord Charicell° to Chaplain !hotter Es' t d i h e Hon. . tie g Chief JtP Duke of the office 00 INt e lbouro c e nt appointra 000 El his IVO° .r Sir G. C 1 4 1 :11/ d ' i)ep tity unty Vi tt t SaperintcP6,, t Antrim, by ot.s , lio „ . Sir 114 , oh Thonlas fog No. 12,005. subject before the House, he would state, that he abstained from doing so at present, because it was just possible that it might be made the ground of impeachment. The Duke of WELLINGTON said, that at; the Noble Baron was so scrupulous with respect to moving fir pa. pers, he might as well have not indulged in remarks of such a painful nature. Lord GODERICH could not, with any sha low of jus tire, prefer any charge against his predecessor in office. The Duke of BUCKINGHAM—The Noble Lord has spoken like a man of high and honourable feelings. Earl GREY did not wash to protract this discussion, which had been occasioned by the introduction of topics Which - be freely confessed he wished bad been omitted. There was not the slsghtest ground for impugning the cha racter and conduct of the Right Hun. Person who lately presided ov, r the colonial di pertinent. Ile spoke most conscientiously when he declared that he did not believe there existed a pars .rf less likely to be guilty of improper conduct. With respect to another point, he must ex press his deep regret that it had been alluded to in the ab Hence of the Noble Person who was lately at the head of the Admiralty. For that Noble Person be entertained the greatest esteem. There had, he believel, been great ir regularities in that department, hut he did not thick that the Noble Individual at is head intended to do any thing inconsistent with his duty to the public. —(Hear, hear.) . With respect to the other great ques tion which had been alluded to, he would not say a word, except in answer to what had fallen from the Nolale Duke. 'He certainly would he prepared, whenever the ~subject ahould be brought before the House, to state that he thought the business of the Monarchy might be con ducted, and the safety of the Monarchy preserved, more perfectly under the plan to be submitted to their Lord ships, than at the present moment ; and in order to prove !that he thought he had little more to do than to prove that t . 'si,as not necessary for the conduct of the Government— that it was not necessary for the safety of the Monarch-- that they shOuld be supported by a system of corruption ant patronage —( Cheers.) 'TheEarl of HADDINGTON having heard the name of his Noble Friend lately at the head of the Admiralty coupled with the words malversation and impeachment, felt bound to declare, from a knowledge of that Noble Lord's character, that he was the last man in the world to be guilty of any thing like malversation. After a few words from .Lord BEXLEY, Lord KING, and Earl GREY, the petition was ordered to lie on the t ible. The Marquis of CLEVELAND had to present a pe• tition on a subject of considerable importance ; but be fore he presented it, he begged to be allowe I to say a few words upon the subject to which it referred—namely, Parliament try Reform. Shortly before the recess, he heard the Noble Earl at the head of his Mdesty's Govern ment make a declaration of his intentions in that House, which gave the utmost satisfaction to the country, and was highly gratifying to him. Ile could assert, without fear of contradiction, that during his whole life he had been friendly to Reform, and as his years had increased,.so lie thought that the necessity of Reform bad increased. It would be highly improper for hint to allude to the parti culars of any measure before the other House of Parlia ment. He knew nothing of that measure except by com mon report, but he would say of the general question, that a Reform of Parliament was absolute necessary— (Hear, hear)—and he certainly would endeavour to sup port it to the best of his power. He very well knew that he might be looked upon with some degree of suspi cion of, that occasion. He bad seen in certain prints, sar c :sue allusions to his conflue, and suggestions that be might be saying one thing and doing another. Any one who knew him must be aware that lie was incapable of so act ing. He had never had but one, opinion on the subject, and that opinion had been greatly strengthened by recent events. He wished to guard against its being supposed that he approved of the measure before the other House in tutu ; but its principle was good, right, and Just. He was aware that he stood in a dehca'e situation on the pre sent occasion, because within a few hours individuals had expressed opinions in the other House which might be supposed to coincide with his. His opinion certainly was that Reform should be persevered in, and that it never could b• brought forward in a more favourable manner nor at a more proper time than at the present moment. He trusted that when it should be brought &rarer l by Go vernment in that House, it would receive all the support which it justly merited. He wished to guard himself against being understood to be an extreme Reformer. He would say " from radicals and ultra Tories good Lord de liver us." The Noble Marquis concluded with presenting the petition, which was from South Shields. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented petitions from Warrington, and ether places, praying for Reform. Earl STANHOPE presented a petition from a place in Kent to the same effect. The Noble Earl declared him self to be friendly to the general principle of the measure proposed by the Government, but thought that it would require alteration in some of the details. Lord KING presented petitions for Reform from Brilge Ward, the I-le of Wight, Shaftesbury, and Kidderminster. Lord WHARNCLIFFE postponed the motion of which he had given notice till Thursday. The Churches' Building Bill passed through a Com- The House then adourned at Seven o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS, MARcH 3. The House was occupied till a Quarter past Five o'clock in ballotting for Committees on the Durham city, Gran tham, and Hvthe election peetions. Mr. DUNDAS, the Chairman of the Committee on the Galway county election petition, brought up the report of that Committee, confirming the election of the sitting Members.—The petition was neither frivolous nor vexa tious. POPULATION RETURNS OF CITIES AND BO ROUGKS. Lord JOHN RUSSELL, after some obstrvations which were inaudible in the gallery, moved for a return of the population in each borough in England and Wales re turning Members to serve in Parliament, of which the population in 1821 did not exceed 2,000 souls,—of the number of electors in those boroughs who had polled at &election in those boroughs durinr , the last 30 years, an 1 of the number of persons in them who were rated to the in habited house duty above 101. annually. He also moved for a similar return in all boroughs, where the number of the population did not exceed 5,000 at the census of 1821. Sir C. 'WETHERELL wished to know the Noble Lord's object in moving for those returns? Was his mo • tion made with reference to the Parliamentary Reform Bill ? _ _ _ Lord J. RUSSELL, in answer, said that the object of his motion was to put the House in possession of the fullest information with respect to the actual population of the boroughs and towns which his Bill would affect. Sir C, WETHERELL must say that the course of proceeding of the Cabinet and its deputy was from time beginning to the end most extraordinary, to say the least of it. Here they bring forward a measure involving the very integrity of the Constitution, on which it menaced the most flagrant breach, and contrary to all precedent, in the teeth of common sense, instead of obtaining the necessary preliminary information, preceding of course, in point of time, they, it appeafs, are going to ask tl:e House to legislate on posthumous information.—(Hear, hear.) — Why presume to bring in a Bill without having first ob tained the information necessary to its thorough elucidation? Mr. O'CONNELL begged to remind the Hon. and Learned Member, first, that the Bill was not yet brought in, and that in the next place the information was not in tended so much to satisfy the minds of the advocates of the measure as to preclude all random a , r,ertions on the part of its opponents.—(Hear.) The CILINCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER made some observations which were very indistinctly heard in the gallery. We understood him to remark, that the re turns for which his Noble Friend moved, would give no additional information to the House, as it was already i n gross upon time table. But thenoulat to obtain ts a it b , st l r l a i e m. ;uni Gen tlemen must wade through the population the object of his Noble Friend's motion was to facilitat e their res e arches, by placing it befor,: them in a concise and summary shape Lord L. GOWER said, that if this information were already on the table of the House, be . cculd see no occa sion why the Noble Lord should move for its production in another shape. Lord JOHN RUSSELL, in reply to an ohsemvation made by the Hon. and Learned Member for Borough bridge, said, that if be had moved for the production of this information before he had brought in his Bill, In. should have let Hon. Gentlemen into the whole secret of LONDON, FRIDAY EVENING, MARCH 4, 1831. his measure. —( Hear, hear. ) Mr. CALCRAFT objected to the course which the Noble Lord was then taking, and asserted that it appeared to him that the Noble Lord did not know what his plan of Reform was to be twenty-four hours before he sub mitted it to the Howe of Commons. Sir C. WETHERELL again protested against the sin gular conduct of . the Noble'Paymister, who, after his Bill was brought in, called for information to elucidate it. Mr. STANLEY said that the lion, and Learned Metn_. ber for BOroughbridge, and his Noble Friend near hirn— the Achilles and Patroclus of the opposite benches, for they now fought under the same shield, and displayed the sime banner—might be among the very few Members of that House who wished this question to he discussed with out sufficient information—(Loud cheering)---but there might he others, not quite so learned either in law or eta. tistics, who might be anxious to receive the information which the Noble Lord now wished to lay on the table, in a compendious form.—(Hear.)—He was convinced that . whatever object the Hon. and Learned Member, and his Noble ally, might have in preventing the House from re ceiving the information now tendered to it, the Hintse would feel that the more information it received on this subject, the more able would it be, to form a judgment on the merits of the Bill of Noble Friend, and he would • • - • add, to see the benefic:al results which must ensue to the country from carrying it into effect.—(Hear.) Lord NU9E,NT knew that considerable inisappCelien. sion had gone abroad as to the reasons why the boroughs of Caine or Tavistock, and, of Knaresborough, were nut among the number of J.wroughs disfranchised. The reason why they had not been_disfrrnachised was distinctly stated on the first night of this debate by his Noble Friend near him, and Jost nighi.by the Hon. Member for Yorkshire. —(Hear.)—Th e returns now moved for would set that misapprehension at rest for ever. Mr. GOULBUIIN—These , returns then are moved for as an answer to the._ speech. of my Hon. and Learned , . Friend, the Member for . Boroughbridge.—(Great cheer ing from the Opposition Benches..)—An observation caused by the speech of, the Noble Paymaster of the Forces is to be answered and refuted by the production of returns, which but for that observation would never have been produced. The information which these returns are to furnish ought to have been submitted to the House before the Bill was brought in. Lord NUGENT complained of the manner in which his observations had been misrepresented by the last speaker, and assured him that the returns were not moved for on the grounds which he alleged, but for the purpose of con vincing the House and the country that the changes pro posed in his Noble Friend's B:11 were not made for the sake of innovation, but of improvempr. Lord JOHN RUSSELL sail, that the motion for the production of these - returns was not made fur the reasons supposed by the Right lion. Gentleman opposite. , After explaining the reasons why Caine, Tavistock, and Knares. borough wete not to be disfranchised, the Noble Lord begged leave to be permitted to tell the Hon. Member, for Wareham, that, so f,r was he from being correct in his assertion that he did nut know what his plan of Reform was to be twenty-fotir hours before be introduced it, that he was acquaint e d with it in all its great outlines, which remained unchanged, so eatly as the middle cfJanuary._ (Great cheering. ) Mr. CROKER did not rise to object to the 'notion. On the contrary, he thought that not only this informa tion, but much more should be afforded to the House be fore it ventured to legislate on so important a question.— (Hear, hear.) He wished to ask the Nob'e Lord, whether he had any objection to put in a short form upon paper, for the information of Hon. Memb,r3, the details of the proposition which he had brought into the House ? His reason for asking the Noble Lord this question was, that he had asked the Noble Lord, before he came into thti House, for an explanation of one part of his speech, of which there had appeared two versions, ad his Lordship, in answer to that question, had told him (Mr. Croker) that be could not say whether he had stated the matter either in one way or in the other.—(A laugh. ) Sir JAMES GRAHAM said, that if the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite would only have the patience to wait eight-and• liirty hours, he :•could have the details for which he then asked, in the most authentic shape, namely, in the shape of a printed Bill—(Hear)—for the gentlemen opposite would either oppose or not oppose the introdue duction of the Bill. If they did not oppose the in troduction of the Bill, it would be, printed as a matter of course ; and if they did oppose it, then he had no doubt that the House would- put down their opposition by a large majority, and in that case, too, the Bill would be printed.—(Cheers and laughter ) Mr. CROKER—I appeal to the House whether that is not a very improper mode of answering my question.__ (Cries of " Spoke.") Lord HOWICK nettle a few ob!ervations which did not tea&h,the gallery. Sir H. HARDINGE hoped that the Noble Lord would affmrd the House much additional information on the popu lation of the borough towns of England, before he called upon it to give a solemn decision upon this Bi 1. lie wished to have a return of the number of towns now un repi es nted, of which the population exceeded the popu lation of Gateshead, South Shields, North Shields, rind Sunderland. He observed that nix new representatives were given to time county of „Durham, in addition to the four which it returned at present. He therefore . hoped to have some information respecting the grounds which existed for making these . revolutionary elienges.—(Cheers from the Opposition Benches.)—He wished to know whether there were not manufacturing towns of which the population exceeded that of the towns of Gateshead, South Shields, and Sunderland. If so, the House ought to have information on the point, for it appeared to him to be a little too much that a small county like Durham should have six additional Meinhers.--(Hear.) Mr. SADLER was anxious that upon this, as well as upon all other questions which came before the House, the fullest information should be afforded by the production of returns. It was his opinion that partial information was worse than none.—(Hear, hear.) He would, therefore, have the returns proposed by the Noble Lord extend to those boroughs of which tl e population exceeded 5,000. Lord JOHN RUSSELL-L-Those returns have bten moved for already, and they are now on the table of the House, and will shortly he printed.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. SADLER made some further remarks, but the con. fusion which prevailed in the Hou-e rendered them inau dible in the gallery. • Mr. DUNCOMBE (Yorkshire) made a suggestion re• specting the number of electsrs polled during the last SO years, but the precise import of it did not reach us. In deed, the confusion was so univvr ;al, and the rapidity with which Hon. members—someti m et, three or four at a time —rose after each.other in different parts of the House to may short:Obsiriaions vas so grea t, t h at i t was matter of eNtrerne..dißcitltzete disc ever theipt trier to which the ear was tit 'be, 'directed. and then it often happened that when that woolens( the speaker was sitting down. We give, however, the convers.ktion which ensued with as much accuracy as we can. Lord JOHN RUSSELL, in reply to the last speaker, said that the returns which Would be before th; V e ouse when his motion wp, grantgd would, with .those already cm the table, comprise all the details which related to the different cities and boroughs in the united kingdom. m r _ HUME was surpriscd a t t h e very extraordinary turn which this discussisa had taken. He would acquaint the Hon. Gentlemen below him, th a t t h e usual rule was, that, if the information given by government to explain any plan which it brought forward was not sufficient, Hon. Members, who wanted further information,' moved f.;r it. From what he knew of th e N o bl e Lord O pposite, and of the strength of tlit! cause which the NAle Lord had advocated, convh,ce I that if the Hon. Member fur i or the lion. M , inber for N ewar k , or n Hon. ithrnber, sho u ld want f urther informa tion, i o o : a i titie o r:urg d' objection would be mad e t o a ff or di ng it. at y :o Sir C. WETIIERELL had not objected to the pro duction of these returns. On the contrary, he wantoi more inforina ion, fur he was pi epared to charge Govern ment directly with having evinced gross p ar ti a li ty i n t h e information which it had yet given. An HON. MENnua on the Opposition ',cliche.; (name tini:aown) ros:: td congratulate the House on one circum stance, which gave an air of novelty to this discussion — he meant the appearance of a Cabinet Minister to`take part in it.—..(Hear, and a laugh.) He could not help thinking that the motion for the s e returns, after the Bill had been brought in, emanated from the same spirit which had dis played itself iu the budget, and which laid it down as a Principle that men ought to legislate first and inquire afte wards•—(Hear,- and laughter.) He contended that the Noble Lord in moving for these returns now was acting in perfect consistency with the Government, of which he formed a part.—(A laugh.) lie had no o‘jection to the Noble Lonl's motion. Mr. SLANEY trusted that the House and the country would mark the spirit - in which this opposition was made by the Hon. Members for Al.lborough, fur Boroughbridge, and for Newat k, to the productions of returns calculated to elucidate the Bill of the Noble Lord, which, be it ob served, was not yet brought into Parliament.—(Cheers. ) From the tone and temper which those Him. Members and their friends had exhibited on this occasion, the House might judge of the feelings by which they were actuated.—(Loud cries of " No," from the Oeposition,and cheers from the Ministerial Benches.)—They were th jecting to the production of information—(C' eers)-Ito the production: of intelligence—(Cheers)—and why ? Because they feared the light.—(lmmense cheet ing.)—He hoped that the country would watch closely the manner in which these gentlemen conduckd their opposition to this ,Bill hereafter.—(Hear, hear.) After a few words from Mr. CI oker, Mr. Sadler, 11Ir.. JohnCrunplsell, and Sir 11. Herdinge, . . Sir M. W. RIDLEY wished to call the attention of the House to the question from which it hail wandered. After stating what that question was , h e °loused that if Hon. Gentlemen had looked to the votes of yesterday morning, they would have found that the returns as to the populaion of eafida l sjty and borough in England and Scotland 09w re turning Members to Parliament, as.al of each city and bOrough net now returning 111 . embers,..,and of each county in England and Scotland, had been 11,id upOn the table, and been ordered to be printed.--(Hrar, hear.) If then Hon. Gentlemen, having waited till they : were printed, should „find that they did not contain all the information megsift *thei . viantefl, they had only to move for such returns ens their wanted, and Government, helm! no doubt, itiuld'Uott:eruse to grant them.—(Hear, hear.) He en - .tiSef' the House not to join any louger,in so desultory . )t Onveriatiott, which could not lead to any practical re flfi-lv,hich might be concluded at once by reference to Elie papers then on the table. After a few words froM Mr. PancevAr, ' An Hole. 111i3ruEe (name unknown) said, that he would appe a l to the recollection of the House, and would ask Hon. Members whether the Hon. and Learned Mem . - ber for Boroughbridge had not risen to object to the pro• duction of tile information which these returns would give.--(Hear, hear.)—What else was to be understood by his sneer at th's return as a return which was to produce posthumous information? Ministers, he was sure, were ready to give the Hon. Gentlemen opposite every informa tion they might require ; fir they were willing that the merits of their measure should b.! fully understood and fairly tried by the country.—(Hear.)—lt was therefore a little too bad that the Hon. Gentlemen opposite, who knem that a measure of Parliamentary Reform was in agi tation, and had not asked for any information to explain the extent of our unrepresented, population previously to its being proposed to the House, should now come forward to complain that information bad been refused to them for which they had never asked.—(Cheers from the Ministerial benches.) Mr. 110B110USE could not help calling the attention of the House to au obiter dictum .of the late Right Hon. Secretary for Ireland, who had denounced this Bill as in troducing into the Constitution revolueommary changes.— (Cries of " Hear" from the Ministerial; echoed by the Op position Benches.) Though tbe Right Hon. Gentleman ought think that the Bill had a tendency to produce such changes, unless he was prepared to prove that the changes were revolutionary, he had employed a phrase which ought not to have Item usal agairtst a measure which was sup ported by more than half the Aristocracy and the whole of the people in this empire.—(Hear.) He thought that more cautious terms ought to have been employed by a gentle man who enjoyed so much of the personal respect and esteem of the House on account of his high character, than the terms which he had just used.—(Hear. ) L coming front him, produced an effect, wtich it would not produce coming from an ordinary person, for every one knew that the aentimeuta which the Right Hon. Gentleman ex pressed he also felt.— (Cheers.) He was surprised that the Right Hon. Gentleman abotild have used language which in his cooler moments he must condemn.—( Hear.) Sir HENRY HARDINGE said, that after the personal allusion made to him by time Hon. Member for Westminster, for his use of the term revolutionary changes, lie trusted that the House would hear with him for a few minutes. H e would now deliberately repeat, that this measure, in its tendency, was most revolutionary..—( Loud cheers from th e Opposition), and he would further .add, that when it suited his own convenit nee, and it plemed the House to listen to him, he should be prepared with proof to make good his assertion that it was most 'revolutionary.— (Cheers from time Opposition.) " I say," continued the gallant Member, " that it is calculated to pull the crown off the King's head.—(Cheers from the Opposition, and cries of " Hear," Tr im,* r, " and laughter from the Ministe rial benches)..—and Ido hope that, if leave should be given to introduce this Bill, the NO* Lord will, before we come to the second reading of it, imitroduce a clause by which the Hoitse m4f Lords may be passed by, in order that they may not irritate the country by time rejaction of it." Sir GEORGE WARRENDER objected' to this mea sure as much as any man, hut thought that all intem perate language should be avoided in opposing it.—(Cries of " Hear" from the Ministeti II benches.) Intempe rance of language would not produce in the public mind that r es istance to this measure which he still hoped to see generated against it. The question was then put, when Mr.DUNCOMBE (Yorkshire) rose to move an amend-. merit, when the Speaker told him, that as be had already spoken, he was not competent to do so. Mr. BARING ramie to move an amendment, of which the substance was for similar returns of population, &e., of all boroughs containing more than 5,000 inhabitant , . Sir C. WETHERELL seconded the amendment, be sYaiodrktshitititrelmewsi cause he wished to promote every means for gaMing infor sl e u t i l ti t o n haveov fur the infor mation on this important subject. substituted in the amendment, instead of 5;000. Mr. D of returns of each of the boroughs in the southern parts of Scotland. Lord JOHN RUSELL said, that if such a inotioo pro A d l u r. ct iC ion . U D N O CO: G IB LA E S ( were made, no obj ection wo uld he offered to it on his side of the House; A s to the amendment moved by the Hon. Member for Taunton, the information which it called for was a lready befo r e the House . If he wished to have it in the s ame paper with the returns for which he (Lord J. yt. b a d to that also there would h e no objection, r i HARDINGE said, that h e hoed that he Noble Lord Woold h a ve n o o bj ec ti ng to state t h e. pa tiE moved,R N y p u lation of the different boroughs to which the elective f i . aug bise *Was to he transfared, and time population of th° r ae l I.VA If any, whi c h exceede d them. N RUSSELL said that if the Gallant Officer a mnia bring down his motion in writing—for at present hedid not perfectly understand it—he had no doubt that t h ere would be no objection to it. Mr. K. DOUGLAS berared ;o t;move as an amendment a similar return respecting all boroughs °Scotland," Mr. KENNEDY did not rise to oppose time amendment,l but lie thought it would be necessary to alter the words 9( i t . In Scotland time word " borough" ciaea Otilara l sma ll part. of the town ` and would frequetitly include only one-third of the population of the town. Mlll\lo'44l that that observation was equally a pplicable tci many Engli s h bo roug h s , an d h e trusted tat fi r i le sfr c be much more profitably employed Nafile Lo r d woultrnot overlool that "fact t satordtag „.• ,•. • his motion. nor. S. WW - tTLEY mat suggest to Hon. Members the propriety of th e i r ta ki ng t h e trou bl e to pu t their mo tions into writi ng . T he t i me of the House, espec i a ll y at t his moment, 0 F B ' than in discussing i n w h at terms rettiaaat,: light tai die made out.—(llear, hear.) Mr. K. D.• might LAS would alter his amendment thus : cc And a reiwn respecting all Royal burghs ig Scotland." The RE F m o ot u i lN motion, l as : p un A e r id L e i d A , AwiaENtlTleLppAut j:ovn and agreed : to. DEBATE. The circle! of the d m y' fur 'resuming the debate o n thi s su bject having been read, Mr- G. BANKES addressed time House. He could not hell) observing to what: a singular situation the Govern ment had reduced themselves, the House, and the country, by the inviolable secrecy which they had so unaccount ably thoughtn it th e i r d uty to observe with regard to this me asure. If the measure were so popular as they as serted it to be, wherein could have consisted the necessity of this inviolable secrecy ? If the measure were so popular, PRICE 7D. what had they seen to fear ? What danger did they ex pect to avoid, what object did they propose to attain, whaat advantage did they hope to gain, that they had had re. c rurse to this unusual contrivance of secrecy? After two n d r a e:s ' u ' r li e t e l l 'i e n fo i r t e. h .a e rd N t il e b t l . e ail L f r o na t d'who had introduced tbs. by dearly demonstr a ti ng that etherbe had i n n , fi a rri e n v m e t n iosr p , ro t l lm i e d e e a , .. l himself with those materials which were to guide the judgment of the House. In doing this, the Noble Lord h he thought, behaved rather ungratefully to the Noble Lord the Member for Aylesbury (Lord Nugent.) The Noble Lord, the Member for Aylesbury, :dreier! almost the only excuse that could be offered for the demand for this information, by saying that the able speech of the Hon. and Learned Member for Boroughbridge had touched upon points which required an answer, and that the returns now moved for were to be part of that answer. But " No," said the Noble Lord, the Member for Tavistock (Lord J. Russe 1), that's a mistake; my Noble Friend is wrong:— . Non tali auxilio, non defensoribus istis.' I do not calf for the returns for any such purpose, but for another purpose ; and I did not ask for them before, be cause, if I hid, I should have let out part of my secret." Now thia he must say, struck him as bring a little ungratecul, and he thought that the Noble Lord, the Member for. Aylesbury, would- he Careful how be again lent a I.elping hind to friend in a serape._ The Noble Lard .(the Member for TavitStnek) had salt', I know dirt neither you nor I had the necessary information ; but then it was necessary that we should keep our secret." Their secret ! What, he word I ask, did the people care about tbeir secret? —(" Hear, hear," and laughter from the Ministerial benche..)--A Right Hon. Friend of hit, on the other side of the House, had attempted another excuse for deo Noble Lord in this matter; but hele again mark the in;ratitude of human nature. a His Right Hon. Friend had said, " Per haps the Noble Lord had not been long acquainted with the nature of this plan of Rerorin ;" but the Noble Lord, scorning to accept -assistance either from friend or foe, replied,'" That's not the race; I have been acquainted with the plan ever since January last." Now the House had not objected to grant these returns; but the com plaint—not a very unreasonable one—was that the Noble Lord hail called for them too late, so late indeed that the discussion'of the measure Must be very fir proceeded with before they could he procured. He repeated that this wrs not a very unreasonable complaint, and he did, theref' re, think it very hard that they shorild have been taunted by the First Lard of the Admiralty in language which meant neither more nor lest than they were irrational and absurd for complaining of want of such inform ition as was ne cessary to facilitate their understanding a measure which had taken the House and the country by surprise, and which bad been intended to take them by surprise. With the exception of - the speeches of the two Noble Lords opposite, they had heard no speech in support of this measure, the basis and the argument of which bad not been intimidation. Now, although he wars one of the proscribed Members under this uneompromisait% pleb, still he felt that he should be no better than a coward if be. were deterred from the expression of his opinions by menaces like these. The speech of the Lesrned Attorney- General, who, rising at so late an hour, was net listene I to with that attention which his eloquence ought always to command, was, he must say, as nothing when com pared with the able and excellent speech of the Hon. Learned Member for Buroughbridge.—(Clacera from the Opposition, and cries of " Hear" and laughter from the Ministerial henchea.)—The Learned Attorney-Gene ral professed that he felt himself called upon to answer ti e vigorous and manly speech of the Hon. and Learned Member for Boroughbridge ; but making every allowance for the confusion which prevailed in the House during. parts of the Attorney-General's speech, still, in his opinion ; that speech had been no answer to the speech which it professed to answer. B 'fore he noticed the arguments of the Attorney-General, be would, with the permission of the House, glance at those of the Hon. Member, fur Mid dlesex (Mr. Hume) and for Preston (Mr. Hunt). The Hon. Member* fur Middlesex had said that he was a pro fessed and uncompromising radical Reformer (" Hear,' from Mr. Hunre)—and tfas, as such; he hailed and received this measure in his own name, and in that of other radical Reformers, who either were or ought to be satisfied with it, as a measure which had gout- far beyond the expectations of all of them. But the Hon. Member for Middlesex hail, in another part of his speech, clearly indicated that he was satisfied with this measure only for the present, and that he thought Reform ought to be carried further. He thought that the Hon. Member for Middlesex would not repudiate his (Mr. G. Bankes's) paraphrase of the Hon. Member's expressions, when he said that the Hon. Mem ber had given them to underatand that he looked upon the proposed measure, that he received it, as a first instalment, or payment on account. The Hon. Member for Preston, tam, was astonished at the measure : it had gone far beyond his expectations too, though he also was a radical reformer. Between Members of all parties and sects there would always be some difference, and between the Hon. Member for Middlesex and the Hon. Member fir Preston, though both radical reformer., he thought he SAW the difference between the aristocracy and the democracy of radicalisrti. Thus the Hsu. Member for Preston had said, " I don't approve of the measure: oh, no ! I can't go quite so far as that ; bust, considering that it comes from Ministers of the Crown, I do confess that it is a very astoa,ishitre mea sure, and far surpassing all my taapectations."—(Hear, hear, -and laughter.) The Hon. Member for Preston had said, that he haul always been used to speak out, ar.d cer tainly, to do the Hon. Member justice, he did not depart from this custom last night: The Hon. Member had told them, that as to such a measure of Reform, without other measures, stopping bloodshed and 'revolution, it Would do no such thing; and, therefore, observed the Hon. Mem ber for Preston to the Hon. Member for Caine (Mr. Ma caulay), "Your speech is nothing to me." Now, he must be allowed to say that; in choosing between the opinion of the Hon. 'Member for Preston, he preferred the latter ;. because the Hon. Member f u r Presto n h a d m i xe d Ma ; with a certain class of the people. Dependigg, therefore, upon time authority of the Hon. Member for Preston, he begged to congratulate =la Hon. Members, and to re mind others that they were not now legislating upon this subject with bludgeons and knives at their throats. This the Hon. Member for Preston had admitted. Now, although some of the Right Hon. qou.t4.inen opposite might not have departed tromp Oleic forme; opinions, yet the opinion of others of theinlaad undergone ao 'row kable a change on . th e eubject of Be(orm, that it Farmed impas sible that that alien& eagld hate 'Won prodused by any tiring shoat of the fear of imminent and impending danger. It was a comisulation, therefore, to hear froin the lion. Member for Preston, that they had time fsr deliberatiosa, —it was a consolation to receive front hits, wUo oalled himself the member for the people,. maavareaneta that the danger was not so imrahnsral it was 17 years ago. There was vetir-ar i;ower which hard been alluied to, a powar" which, he admitted, was a very formidable one, and which he admitted also to be a weapon hat the hands of Reformers, which was gainint• fs.rc;.s and impor taust:S vyrry day,—he meant the aeasier of the Press. He was aware that there vtaa pct avoiding that power ; he was *Wire that foa whale'Ver they said or did, even in ttae . nAaet peivilegair places, the . ) , Were all, from the IrlOmes; tas lowest, amenable to that trememaea vey .saa At t. did not complain of that powtaa i e asiviowleilied it a and all that he would .O sarjr.44 ;•o)elitio‘l ta it was, that he would not airceut telt 134 . 1*. teauseience told him ha o ug ht a a a to resist ir3 , that lie would abandon to its dictationa those opinions which his duty taught hills to Ohara. `sos---a. (Hear.) Tremendous as that power vaa.,-Wide and fearful as he acknowledged its !Aueiiiee to be,—still h e would not shrink frowtatexpreasion of his opinions through the fear of it.--s(He;rr,) Reverting to the meusure tm,aalar allow him to observe, that it 4a s i only been introduced under the extraordinary c4curnStanees to which he had already alluded, 44mie that it had been a ccompan i e d also by an .the, egoallY. Octraordinary. In a manner Ow nett unconstitutional they had been told that the measpre had been - introduced with the sataceaon of the Sovereign. The Noble Lord (Ebeiieg;oo symmo had int roduced to,„ topic last night, hail been told by the Speaker, not only that it was improper, but that it was unnecessary, fer that the Right II Gentlemen opposite being Ministers of the Crown, and as Ministers of the Crown might be dismissed at the Royal pleasure, it must be taken far granted that any measure introduced by them was introduced with the Banc, tion of the Sovereign. The SPEAKER—N o ; j d u i nu t say with the " sane tion," but with the " cognizance," of time Sovereign. Mr. G. BANKES continued, Besides his introduc tion of the none of the Sovereign, they had been threat ened with a dissolution ; fro that, in fact, by coupling-the . two, this 'plsio 'inference came, ottt.....is The King re saes fusit, yo h u e Will dissolve kort" licle'nleatt: to say that it Watt must pass it; foh he approvets-it ;. an d i f yo u intended to - hold tide lettgonggeOntehe Musa contend that what they had Wen- told enntilletiV4- in effect 'to nothing short of it. The -Nolde Lout who• bad laden. called to order ligt exerts d I. iniself Cu. the greened that a Minister of the Crown, in another place, had said that the t m h e er dr; but th Dli nister dial not accompany that intimation with the thr eat N ha o d hl r e e(44 Lo "a tel e h base netj t sanction I t e l alie B l t . i t t h e a r t ei t g l a n at ; of a dissolution. He contended that the precedent was it most unfortunate one foi the present Government to ;WO troduce a Bill of this IlloseriPtion s and then to state thie consequences which wealthl toothy its .iiiection. The ar oumente whioh h art beet' cif ctueilly Zirgell last night by lei Hon. and Learned Feirnd, the Metoter- Boteugh kridge, regarding the taking away of eSrper ate rights, Ind ifisitel received by the House with ;the attention which they deserved, and he had not bean! froth the Attorney: Genera!, who had attempted to answer that Learned Mem ! her, a single argument against the position whiele his Learned Friend had taken upon that point. He had not heard a single precedent, heal or good, produced for this spoliation of co-mai-ate ri a litso except that which had lo;On mentiened by the Haim Member for Newtc,u, who had spoken on that side of the House, and who hail alluded to the taking away oa f the chattels of the corparetionS in the time of James IL, as the only analogous p ecedent which our history furnisliol fir such a measure as thi•o The Learned Attorney•G neral had said, that that was not a cam in point, but it was not described exactly asa such. It was speken of in the B 1! of Rights as one of the greatest abuses, and one of those which had called for the interventioe of the Leei•letute to save the Coestitution of the country, by taking the Crowe front the head of en. unworthy King. The objectien to the proposition ivith . regard to corporations slid not! lie against the opening of corporations, but against the taking away one or two' Members from them. Dial not such a proposition as that deserve the epithets which had been applied to it, anal wag' it not truly described when character:zeal as a spoliation' anal rob' cry? r Tie Leatned Attorney-Gent rail had re-1 ferred to the plan of Reform which had been introeltood into Parliament by Oliver Cromwell, and had quid th, t Lard Clio-ender) had given it as li. opinion, that is was, one which Was well'worthy of imitation by (ether patties. Now let them taut just see how that plan of Reform had worked. It wag only two years biome that part of our Parliamentary debates had Leen rertivitred, and they' had been since published, giving us an account of what hail' occurre lin this reformed Parliament of CromWelh 'A' I w o o f u th ld em n o n t m have vat b i , f e y n a a ny ve o r n y e gr ta t t i t m k e e , ir filonss. ever appear ft urn those debates, hail taken pl ace 'i n ' Hair refilentol• g t Pe l e a r i t n i ; usra that was absurd, anti futile, and ridi cu ' ous , i t would Par ismeht. As ato r, however, of the merine of this reformed Pas liatitent; . quote' to the House 1. be opinion of the parent of the ntezeitire, after he had to te d it by experiment. Hr should' teed a short extract from the speech of the Protector Cromwell dissolving this Parliament. Hie wools were as follow ;—" My Lords and Gentlemen of the House of Commons, I had very comfortable expectations that God would make the meet ing of this Parham, nt w blessing : anti the Loral be my witness, I desired the carrying on the affairs of the nation to these ends. Having proceeded upon these terms, and finding smell a spirit as is too Much PrOomitian", every thing being- kid- high or tot wh. re a ittite, honesty,' piety, and juetiae are omitted, I thought I heel been dating tint which wee my duty, ants thought it would has. satisfied you ; but it every thing must be too high errors low, you are not to be satisfied. -Yon have nut only jointed yourselves, but the whole natjuo, which is in th e likelihood of running into neore coistheiote in these tifteeis - or sateen days- thee you have eat, than is bath been from oheirieitsgesf the; last 'SA-ion to this day. And if this - be Aurendi'of your witting; and if this be your car r i age, I think it high time that an end be put te your sitting, and I' do dissolve thiia Perliament, anal let God judge between,' ins and you."-:-(Loud cries of " Hear. hear, from the Opposition.)—That wits tI4 Patliament which hail been reformed and fuheinlisel in the plan which had been prais e d by the liona'Ghtillernan opposite (the Attorney-General). Cromwell :had given that Parliament two trials—in tote first iustartlei Of five menthe, anal in the second of sixteen days; at'the "end of which he dissolved it, with the speech froth Which he (Mr. Ilstikes) had read those extracts, nine Tying the opinion witiA the Protector entertain -1 of at Parliament which hal been formed upon what had been rifle& by the Attorney-Geiser:lh " tbc best conservative :principle." He was ready tat maintain the justice of the epithet which had been appliel to this measure by the Gallant Member on his hide of the House, who lied pro perly called it a , s revolutionary" riteastrre :_(hear, Lear.) He would mime, in - support of that opinion, an authority, 'which he Pressure tepid.' be teceived with respect in that. House,—he meint the anthority of the late Air. Huslie son. He should - read . . to the House an extract from a speech of that tilde titan, delivered in that Mum in the course of the lastiSertion of Parliament, and in doing so lie begged particularly for the attention of the Neble Laird, the Member for the University of Cambridge, and of tl e Hon: Member foe Montgomery, In alluding to three ge neral anal sweeping measto es of Reform, resettilthug that ; hich had now been brought forward by the Noble I.ord opposite, Mr. Huskisom delivered his sentiments in th; following emphatic terms. The Hum Nlembtr proceeded to quote from Hansard's Parliatitretary Debates lho fol lowing passage from a speech delivered by the late Mr. Huskisson, in the House of Coutroons;ort the 2341 of Fe bruary, 18'30 As to a inote extensive Parliament:oo; Beretein, a meosatre founded upon tie principle of a general tevision, ieconatriation, and temodelling of our present Conititation,—to such a general revision, mad change of out Constitution, he (Mr. Ituakisson) had love elwave Opposed, and while he hail at seat in that llouse he shoal give it his most decided opposition. - Ile onto-rived, that if such an exteroive Reform were (Acted, they might go ota for two or three sessions in good anal easy time, 1 - mal stich , a Re e ormed Parliament might adapt itself tea oar muck seurnehmeannt,eantelLbyeeocriailaitzley a c . o w n e cet oi ns ec o t f ea th i e n e t i l o . u tt al e tt L o h f ut go if v stitution of Parliament, rare he was that whenever an oc casion arose of great popular excitement or roootima, the (consequence would he a total subversion o f uur Constitu tion, followed by complete confusion an anarchy, term's, misting first in the tyranny of a fierce tletnocracy, and then in that of a military despotism, these two great calemities maintaining the natural Kder at succession whirl they have been always hitheotoaten to observe." That autho rity sufficiently ham out his Gallant Ftimad in designating th's as a reeoliationary measure. Not more than twelve months ? , age, Mr. Hnekisson had denounced, in the strong anti emphatic language to which he had referred, any mea sure of such a descrinAon. Such sneasuree were so de nounced by a min who belonged not At/the aristocracy of the country--,who had sprung himsel from the peopho and who, felt with them and far them. 'With the weight of such an authority ogeinst them, even those who had been always friendly to such ,measures, shoulei pause and reflect before they proposed them ; but that the politi z aj asinciAtes of Mr. Iluskisson—th a t tlso men who had 'fle e% amid st v o h a u ld, Le so l4 so t o h n e bpshearanerldtt,ibeuelsviet:toluiltati.cehdi:ed.tiibnilly:tiiruoitid,i after hirdrri,th, be w , ca i i:l o t ss o e f xt s t u a ti o h n a lin tr a ie y as 4rol ura s able fact o — Eleato hear.) The Learrttsl Geotlein all i: n n at o et p c'e p ° os upnr i et te : (thot. Attorney-General) had reforied to the early speeches of 'Mr. Pitt for opinions whio.i, he hail expressol ix fa vour of Parliaments Rafortn, but he (Mr. Bankos) would Prefer to moote from the late speeches( of that power ful and eloe i tteut man, at a period whew his jadoutent was maYll , l by age anal experience % He would refer the *mut to the speech which Mr. Vitt moils upon the Irish Union. If there tato one lltestSure more then smother upon which that illttetriooo statesman desired to rest•hia Lone, awl whiolo he was anxious shettld, teat down as his Waklartat4,t to. posterity, that was the great andolifficult ormatuire of the legislative union 1u5t13C442 She two countries. They would see how,' upow thitt occasion, hat expimesed hintself with regard to Worm. Having been tetothwea in the course of the delteto with the opinions whieh he had, held in hie notkv days upon that question, Air. Pitt deli vered seatiments which he almoil now resift to th o a tOpute. H :re the lion. Aleolhoe read an extraeat Nut the speech of Mr. Pitt ukie a n. the Melt Union, strongly eon _ demnatory of what WAS termediParlia coutary Reform. H e trusted the; he had said e n ouglateetattisfy tlielio». Ment he; foe Westminster that he liras, not tersatde to fulfil his prom i se to faring forstWodi great auth or i t i es ' f or the pries ciples which he Oho Banked) adeueatid a on this question, and that he was, therefore justified,'without incurring the censure. of the Hem. Member, in considerieg and describ. i n g this as at revolutionary measure,...:4Loik . cheers from the Opposition.) . • Mr, lI,OBLI,OUSE thought that after the personal call which had been mode upon hint by his Learned Friettal, he Waft eotnetviote justified in taking the first opportuhity to addoeas the House. Notwithstanding the able add, eta which lied been just delivered by his Learned Friend, and not- - withstanding the confident and powerful tone in which be had addressed himself to the House, alio! in the latter part of his speech to him (Mr. - ilobhouse), be (Mr. Heblitotee an ) thought that he should be ab:e a o show, oot h o l f . :ts m go e a N tl t authority as Isis—for the authority to l at liy.l,;.!ithan. tea refer was the same as had haeu f r A e nitt-he thouglst he Friend, namely, •u eau ",,, -- " -- o j; f ro m • thatontrhorite, that should be able. M r a id : Sir H. ilardini,e) was act Right' Hon. Gentleman 4,