The Sun. — London, England, 1831-10-20 00:00:00

substance, that it can very rarely be discerned on the closest inspection. Much less, therefore, could the pen eye and pounce upon it, at a distance, while floating in the chaos of Jeremy's brain ! Mr. Bent ham has written something about Lord Brougham's Bankruptcy Bill, and, as we gather, against - it. It is most astonishing how semblably the spirits of Sir Charles Wetherell in the House, and Mr. Bentham out of it, do cohere, except most un questionably the elder born dulness does wholly over shadow his younger brother. To the charge of the desire to increase patronage, the most satisfactory answer has been given. The new Court will not be half so expensive as the old one. A Chancellor's office is not permanent : the first nomination of the Judges may, indeed, rest with the existing Chan cellor (yet even this is not sought), and then he takes his leave of them : and what motive can Lord Brougham have, either from the history of his past life or his future prospects, to add to the patronage and influence of the Chancellorship ? Such a mo tive might be imputed to one who held the office for a quarter of a century, and knew at the commence ment of his career, from the strength of his con nexions, the turn of his politics, and the bent of his mind, that he was likely to remain so long in office. The present Chancellor can have no view in his Bill but, in the brief discharge of the duties of his high station, to work great and long-enduring good to his countrymen. Mr. Bentham next attacks the Bill, because " public and private sittings of the Court" are spoken of. It is not likely that we should defend privacy in Courts of justice, but it would very much perplex any one to know how a bankrupt's books are to be examined in public. Are , there no private sittings in the present system ? Yes ; and Mr. Bentham thus speaks of them,—for we must quote him, in spite of our humanity and feeling for him, though we know we cannot do him a greater disservice with the public than by laying a scrap of his writing before it. " Now, of this same privacy, what is the need or use ? To this question, in no one of the works on the subject of bankruptcy, have I been able to find an answer. Is it lest, were the proceedings public, from the affirmation made of the debt, the reputation of a solvent trader should receive injury ? Is it lest an insolvent, and about to he, and, properly, declared bankrupt, should withdraw his person, or more or less of his property, out of the reach of the power of the Court ? Into the propriety of any sucli alleged justification, the present occasion does not call upon me to inquire. Sufficient is it to observe, that, under the existing practice, at this stage of the proceedings, whatso ever be the meaning or end in view of it, the privacy is at an end : after it come the meetings, to which is given the denomination of public meetings ; and the one only judi catory in which, by law or practice, authorization is given to privacy of procedure, is that of the Commissioners, of whom there are either three, four, or five,—never fewer than three ; whereas by this Bill, authorization is given to the sittings, as well of the Four or Three Bankruptcy Court Judges, as to those of the Commissioners, when (as per tee. 6) formed' into their Sub-division Courts." What follows about fee-gathering has been spoken of above, and deserves no farther than that inci dental answer. But Mr. Bentham proposes amend ments to the Bill, and these are curious certainly ; for in the very establishment of the Court, they begin precisely with that which is the ultimate bane, the re plus ullia of deterioration, in all esta blishments whatever, civil, moral, or political,— namely, the appointment of deputies as well is principals. " 3, Six being the number regarded as sufficient for the whole of the business, taken at its maximum—appoint, in the first instance, some smaller number, suppose three : with power to each to appoint a depute,* sitting (in the same manner as his principal !) by himself; and, during a probationary year, serving thus, as it were, as an appren tice; awl, as such, serving without pay. " Reason 1. No man who in his own opinion is not fit will accept the office. " Between the several Deputies emulation will have place, each of them being a candidate for a Commissioner • ship : so many Deputies, so many rival candidates. " The Commissioner principal would see it to be his interest to depute whatsoever man appeared to him to be the fittest. Why ? Because the greater the fitness of the Depute, the greater his chance of being appointed Commissioner. "By appointing a Depute, so fit as to be appointed Commissioner, he would thus, and with honour, exercise patronage; if not so fit as another, he would have no pa tronage; if conspicuously unfit, instead of patronage his lot would be—disgrace. " Behold here the securities afforded far appropriate aptitude. Confront with them those constituted in sec. 1, by years of standing ; and, in sec. 8, the nugatory for mality of a vague--generality oath." Mr. Bentham's pamphlet, essay, or whatever it may, concludes with a sneer at the present " Re form-preaching" House of Commons, because it clearly will not adopt his idea of a Bankruptcy Court in preference to that of the Lord Chancellor ! It would be a Reform-loving House of Commons, in deed, were it to do that ! Lord Brougham is hi vited to retire, and then a successor to him is re commended to him in these words : " And who then shall be his successor? Happily, of his name all mention is as needless, as to him it would be unpleasant; to him who, in nothing which on this subject has by this pen been written, has hail arty, the least participation ; nor perhaps, at this moment knows of the existence or so much as of the design of it. " Taught by Tacitus, this splendour I throw around him. Speaking of statues, prcefulgebant (says the Ro man historian, if I do not inisrecollect him) prcefulgebant Brutus et Cassius, eo quad non visebantur.'" Who may be tine person here meant, we know not ; but if his head be any thing like that of his eulogist, he would make a strange Judge. No re porter of the Court could copy his decrees, —no suitors know what was decided. The existing gene ration would be in the dark as to what was meant when he spoke : the proceedings of his Court would be secret indeed, and posterity could have no intel ligible precedent to which they could refer. To use Mr. Bentham's own words, " accessible justice would be impossibilized."— Times. Ministers have no small difficulty in assigning the proper period of the prorogation. On the one hand, they are bound to respect the just and reasonable desire of the people, for the earliest possible deter mination of the great question of Reform, by the agitation of which the country is convulsed, and all ' its transactions, civil and commercial, deranged ; while, on the other band, regard must be paid to the natural demand for repose which the Members of the House of Commons make, after the pro tracted and unseasonably labours of the past See sion. Many of the best supporters of the measure come from remote quarters of the empire, several from Ireland ; and if any such period (a fortnight, or three weeks) as has been mentioned by the mole sanguine Reformers were fixed for the recess, it would scarcely afford time for the journey to and fro. Then, the inclemency of the coming season and the great festival of Christmas impose a fur ther prolongation of the recess for a certain period; " and thus (say a number of Members), considering all the circumstances of the case, it is scarcely possible for any reasonable person to propose the meeting of Parliament more early than January. It may be taken, therefore, for granted, we believe, that an earlier meeting is not to be expected. We regret this On many accounts; for though there can be no apprehension of any diminution of the public feeling in favour of Reform in that interval, still the Anti-Reformers will be but too prone to think other wise ; and we almost tremble to think of the con sequences of further provoking the people. We know, indeed, it has been said, that the public senti ment in respect of this great question will acquire a yet more respectable character and a more impos ing authority from its permanence and endurance daring that period. We wish this may be the the case. However, whatever be the period which may be fixed upon for the prorogation, the country must at all events expect all true friends of Reform to exhibit the like alacrity in returning to their posts, as will be no doubt exhibited by the 'inte rested minions of the boroughmongers. It is to he hoped that the higher and nobler impulses of patriotism and public virtue will not be found less efficacious than the sordid motives which direct the conduct of those whose personal and political existence is de. • in the Scottish judiciary establishment, SherifA (Judges of the shires) appuint Sherif% depute. pendent upon the continuance of the present corrupt system. To the constituency of the Empire we have no hesitation in saying, that none of the ordi nary excuses for neglect of public duty are admis sible to justify the non-attendance of any delegate of the people's interests at the re-assembling of Par liament. The Member who at this juncture post pones to his personal comfort or interest the dis charge of his legislatorial functions, must be regarded either as insincere in his professed attachment to the great object at issue, or as insensible of the transcen dant nature of the great trust reposed in him by his fellow-citizens. The present is a crisis by which the destinies of the country will be determined for many ages to come ; and he who withholds his hand from the good work must be regarded a traitor or a sensualist.—Morning Chronicle. It was generally allowed last night that the tran quillity of the country had been greatly promoted by the Political Unions. We have already observed, that if such unions had existed at Derby and Not tingham the peace of the country might have been preserved; and this seemed to be the opinion of several Members last night. In order that the strength of the country may be made as available as possible to the great cause of Reform, in case of necessity, it would be well to extend the organiza tion as much as possible. With a community well organized, and offering ready means of communica tion, the efforts of the boroughmongers may be sPt at defiance. We trust therefore, the interval be tween this and the re-assembling of Parliament will be employed in organising the country. Good and true men should fall upon means of becoming ac quainted with the intentions of each other. We have confidence in Ministers, but we have no confi• dence in the boroughmongers ; and it must always be borne in mind that Ministers are only strong by having the people on their side. To intimidate the boroughmongers is to strengthen the hands of Mi nisters. Nothing but the knowledge that the people are determined that the power the boroughmongers now possess shall be wrested from them, can ever induce them to yield. Morning Chronicle. It is quite impossible that any Ministry can con duct the affairs of this country with nearly all the local authorities hostile to them. We have again adverted to this important point, and an analysis of the majority and minority on the second reading of the Reform Bill in the House of Lords has im pressed us with the necessity of losing no time in withdrawing authority from opponents of the Go vernment, in order to bestow it on individuals dis posed to support it. In the list of the majority we find the following Lord Lieutenants of counties : Duke of Beaufort (for three Earl of Digby. Counties.) Earl of Harewood. Duke of Buckingham. Earl of Hardwicke. Duke of Leeds. Earl of Lonsdale (for two Duke of Manchester. Counties.) Duke of Newcastle. Earl Powis. Duke of Rutland. Earl Talbot. Duke of Wellington (for two I Earl Verulam. Counties.) Earl of Warwick. Marquis of Bath. I Earl of Westmorl aid. Marquis of Bute. Viscount Maynard. Marquis of Camden. Baron Arden. Marquis of Exeter. Baron Dynevor. Marquis of Hertford. Baron Grantham. Earl of Abingdon. Baron Rodney. Earl Brownlow. PRO: Duke of Northumberland. Earl of Macclesfield. Earl Mount Edgcumbe. In all thirty-three Lord Lieutenants against the Bill. Earl of Stamford. Bishop of Durham. In the Minority appear the following Lord Lieu tenants: — Duke of Devonshire. Duke of Grafton. Marquis of Anglesea_ Marquis of Cleveland. Marquis of Lansdowne, Marquis of Westmeath. Earl of Carlisle. Baron Foley. Baron Willoughby de Fze,by. I'IIO.CIES. Duke of Portland. I Earl Fortescue. Earl of Derby. In all twelve for the Bill. There were two Lord Lieutenants absent— The Earl of Egremont. I The Earl of Somers. But of the thirty-three Lord Lieutenants who voted against the second reading, one possesses three counties, and two possess two counties; so that in thirty-seven counties the heads of the Magistracy are opposed to Government, while they only ' possess supporters in twelve counties. The Tory Lord Lieutenant, for the most part, chooses Tory Deputy Lieutenants. The latter rank as field officers. It is well known that the Lord Lieutenant has, de jiicto, the appointment of the Magistracy of the several counties ; and we need hardly remark, that the Tory Lord Lieutenants have not failed to avail themselves of their power, to have their own crea tures in the Commission. For above fifty years. gentlemen of independent principles, and qualified in every respect for the Magistracy, have in most of the counties been carefully passed by. This system must have an end. It is ridiculous to talk of in. dependence in a county in which the Lord Lieute nant and almost every Deputy Lieutenant and Ma gistrate are Tories.-117orning Chronicle. Mr. Ponsonby has been thrown out in Dorset shire, by an Anti-Reformer, and when the matter is fairly considered, there is nothing surprising in this. All the local interests were, of course, hostile to the Reform candidate. We have often thought it was bad policy to appear to attach so much consequence to the election of a Reform candidate in Dorset shire. It is only, perhaps, during the excitement of a general election, when the demands upon the ene mies of the people are heavy, that the people in a Tory and agricultural county can hope to overcome their enemies. The so uggle, even then, is or fended with many sacrifices. These sacrifices a freeholder will make, under peculiar circumstances, such as the persuasion that this is a last great effort to free him for ever from subjection to the boroughmotwers. But miracles are not to be ex pected ever;day, and, therefore, we are not sur prised that the people of Dorsetshire, after having made so unexpected an effort in the general elec tion, should have relapsed into their old state of de ference for the men who, from the authority with which they are vested, have so much power to in jure them. Ministers must not lose sight of the great work of strengthening themselves and friends by changes in the Lieutenancy and Magistracy. Other changes are called for. At all the Dock yards, for instance, there are men, who never be fore were seen in hostility in the Government, exerting themselves in a hundred ways to injure Ministers. in short, at present, nearly the whole details of the Administration are carried on by men who detest their employers, and are ready to betray them whenever an opportunity offers.—Morninu Chronicle. A discussion arose in the House of Commons last night, on the presentation of the petition from the Birmingham Union by Mr. Hume. In his intro ductory remarks Mr. Hume took occasion to defend the institution of such societies, and observed that, if similar unions had been established at Notting ham and Derby, such outrages as had lately been committed would not have taken place. Sir Richard Vyvyan—who is a clever marl, and an honourable man, but unfortunately a disciple of that school which would diffuse ignorance instead of know ledge, if ignorance could be propagated by instruc tion—Sir Richard Vyvyan opposed himself to the doctrine laid down by Mr. Hume. He did not deny that the establishment of Political Unions in Nottingham and Derby would in all likelihood have prevented the outrages by which those towns were disgraced, but he said, and it was in ex pianation too, and therefore not inconsiderately, that " he would prefer even riots in some part of the country, to the preservation of peace through the medium of Unions, which gave oppor tunities to factious demagogues to inflame and alarm the lower orders of society." Such is the opinion of Sir Rehard Vyvyan—such is the opinion of the party to which he belongs, though they have not the same candour to acknowledge it. Good God ! and is bloodshed itself more acceptable in their sight than the existe-ce of institutions for the diffusion of political sentiment I We should have thought that the t on s s v , ors effect would t b e the even interruption the abuse o of s of the t he public i t peacens t itu but it seems that there is something dearer than peace which their existence may affect— somet hi ng to which peace itself would be willi ng l y sacr ifi ced by the party ; and that something is knowledge. Sir R. Vyvyan would prefer riots to Political Unions, but he is bound to show that the road to peace is igno rance, before he can establish the reasonableness, or even the meaning, of the preference he adopts.— Morning Herald. We are sure ao real Reformers will disgrace themselves and their just cause by being tempted or betrayed into any acts which may give colour to its enemies to confound the desire for Reform with that wild and turbulent spirit which is sudden and quick to violate the law, and is reckless of the de struction of property and life. Eager advantage has been taken by the enemies of the people's rights of the outrages at Nottingham and Derby, and the shameful conduct of a rabble in London, to charge such proceedings upon the Reformers, and it is hoped that the mind of the highest Personage in the realm may be alienated from a cause which has hitherto had his firm support by being induced to believe that those who demand Reform, or, at least, a large portion of them, have the most guilty de signs against the peace and Constitution of the country, and that no concessions can satisfy those who, hating order, and law, and tranquillity, raise the banner of Reform only to produce an excitement favourable to their views, and are ever ready to avail themselves of such excitement to engage in acts of violence and blood. Most assuredly, if they were Reformers who perpetrated the out rages to which we have alluded—if they were Reformers who took advantage of a moment of popular excitement to commit a senseless destruction of property, and to cause a wanton effusion of blood —we admit that the cause of Reform, however reasonable in itself, would have been grossly tar nished and disgraced by the acts of its partisans; but we think it is easy to show that the rabble who committed those outrages neither were Reformers nor took any interest in the cause—and that, in fact, they had no more to do with it than the rioters, incendiaries, and machine-breakers of last winter. To be convinced of this it is only necessary to look at the details of the outrages at the several places, and it will be found that the disturbances were only the acts of the very lowest of the populace, and that they were conducted more in the spirit of a war of the poor against the rich, than of Reformers against Anti-Reformers. We see, for instance, that in Nottingham the mob that burnt down the Castle immediately afterwards burnt down a silk-mill, and made an attack on the House of Correction with a view of liberating the criminals. We are ex pressly told that a number of persons had come in from the country for the sake of plunder, and, accordingly, property was feloni ously carried off to a considerable amount. In returning through Derby, in the evening, the mob broke the windows of both Reformers and Anti-Reformers promiscuously, and also demolished the windows of the post-office in the wantonness of mischief, and let the prisoners out of the gaol. What was more remarkable, it having been determined on by the respectab!e inhabitants to sign an Address to the King, praying his Majesty to retain his Minis ters, with a view to carrying the Reform Bill—and several stalls having been erected in the market place, with the consent of the Mayor and Magis trates, for the purpose of receiving signatures to the Address—the rioters instantly destroyed them. So much for the attachment of the Derby and Notting ham rioters to the cause of Reform! And, in Lon don, the principal disturbance arose from an attempt of a gang of ruffians to rescue a pickpocket from the hands of the police ! The wretched condition of the labourers in many parts of England has given them a feeling of enmity towards the classes above them, and has made them the ready tools of any dangerous advisers, who prompt them to wreak their vengeance on the rich, and their property; but they understand nothing about the question of Rerorm, and care nothing for it. Those misguided men are to be pitied for their wretchedness and ignorance; but we fear that, until we shall have a thoroughly-reformed Parliament, nothing will be done, or even at tempted, with a view to improve their condition.— Morning Herald. A Ministerial Morning Paper, which, for some days previously to the Dorsetshire election, put forth such boasting assertions of the hopelessness of the Tory cause in that quarter, now carefully ab stains from uttering a word upon the subject. His giantship is somewhat crbst-fallen, Stalking with less unconscionable strides." He can no longer assert what is contradicted by the event, and he has not the candour to acknow ledge the deceitful view which he gave the public of the political feeling of Dorsetshire freeholders. lie will now adventure upon some other fabrication, which will pass current for a while with those whom no experience will teach. Again the event will prove the fraud ; but what then ? His purpose is answered, his boast lives for a season ; he feels no shame in the result, but unblushingly sets to work once more in the same course. " Destroy his web of sophistry ; in vain— The creature's at his dirty work again." Be ours the consolation, however, that truth is with us; and truth is great, and in the end prevailed]. The triumph in Dorsetshire is the most decisive reply that can be given to all the nonsense- about " increased enthusiasm," and " no re-action," and the " unanimity" of the people in favour of the Reform Bill. Where's the unanimity in Dorset shire ? Can the people who talk about it erase Lord Ashley's name from the Gazelle as th e elected Member for that county, though the de clared and determined opponent of the Reform Bill ? There is the fact, twist it as you will, and make " unanimity in favour of the Reform Bill" out of it if you can. But now there are those who talk of partiality of the assessor, and a petition against the return. This is all of the same quality as the boastin g before the election began. The number of votes be fore the assessor was caused by the perseverance of Mr. Pensonby's friends in bringing up votes, which they knew must be bad, for the purposes of delay. A great contest never took place affording less grounds for a petition against the successful candidate than the late election for Dorsetshire. On the last day an attempt was made to interrupt the election by means of rioting ; between two and three hundred strangers were brought to the scene of action, pre• ceded by a band of music. Who brought them or where they came from (for they were neither free holders nor residents in the neighbourhood) is yet to be ascertained; but their object was to make a riot, and to attack Lord Ashley. The ," farmer's friend" was not, however, deserted; three hundred men, mounted on their own horses, carne to his as sistance, and the foreign rioters were driven away without any serious danger being done. We do not find that any of the Evening Papers who sup port the Ministry make the slightest comment _upon the result of an election to which they referred so repeatedly while it served the purpose of their party, and to which all England has been looking for the last fortnight with the utmost anxiety. This circumstance is pregnant with' proof of the kind of fairness that belongs to that Press which boasts itself to be the true organ of public opinion. —Morning Post. A PARSON MISSING.—On Sunday morn ing last the congregation of All Saints' Church in this borough were kept in great suspense, which arose at last to painful apprehension. The vicar, for reasons best known to himself, has been absent f-r a length of time, and now the curate took it into his head to follow the example of hi 9 principal, and there was no c l erg yman to officiate in this well-paid incumbency. Th e con gregation waited long and anxiously, more thoughts than those of devotion occupied their minds, and more enquiries than the road to Heaven their tongues. " Where can Mr. WALTERS be ?" said one. " Aye, where indeed ?" re sponded another, " his be gone to look after the vicar ?" " It is hard," said a third, " that we should all be turned off without benefit of clergy." At last a stranger was pro cured to read over the prayers, after which, not having a half-crown printed " manuscript," in his pocket, he dis missed the congregation by informing them that there would be no sermo n . W e h ope t hi s a b sence i s not omi nous, and that the clergy generally do not mean to desert their ehi.rches before the people refuse to pay tithes. The circumeonce has created no little talk in Stamford.-- Stamfird Champion. DUNDEE MEETING. RECEPTION OF THE NEWS IN DUNDEE THAT THE LORDS HAD REJECTED THE BILL. (From the Dundee Advertiser.) Ever since the Bill was exposed to the inhospi table climate of the Upper House, an uneasy sen- sation has prevailed in Dundee. On Monday last it was generally known, in consequence of private letters from London, that the Bill would be rejected, but no one dreamed of so large a majority against it as 41. The intelligence of its fate, when an nounced by the guard to the crowd who waited for it till twelve o'clock on Monday night, was received with groans, hisses, and imprecations addressed to the guard to hoist the black flag. Next morning much excitement was apparent ; the streets were more crowded than usual—all the flip of the ves sels in the harbour were half-mast high. At such a crisis, it was fortunate for Dundee that she had po pular Magistrates, as eager for Reform as their fel low-townsmen. Early on Tuesday morning they issued hand-bills, callingameeting of the inhabitants. The meeting took place in the Steeple Church, which is said to be capable of containing 2,000 sit ters. By one o'clock the church was crowded ; and from the density of the crowd, it was estimated that upwards of 3,000 persons were present. Hundreds had to go away for want of room. A large crowd had arrived with several black flags, on which printed bills were stuck, bearing these words, " To the King's prerogative we appeal." One of the flags had a white border. On the motion of Mr. G. IMILNu, writer, Pro vost LINDSAY took the Chair, amidst the loudest acclamations. Provost LINDSAY—The present, my friends, is indeed a momentous crisis—a crisis unequalled in its importance by anything which has happened in our time, or, I may rather say, by anything which stands recorded in the annals of Great Britain, and the consequences of which it is impossible to foretell. I have drawn up, my friends, such an address to the King as I think the present occasion demands, and with your leave I shall now read it. 13aillie BAXTER—Let the people show the same steady, constitutional, but determined approbation of the Reform Bill three months hence, even thee Lords will be glad to pass the Bill; and the people will now not be content with one particle less than the whole Bill. During the last forty years, the Peers introduced into the House of Lords have been created by Tory Ministers, and have carried their Ultra principles into the Senate. To counteract this force, the King, it is to be hoped, will create such a number of patriotic and intelligent Peers ae will insure the complete passing of this measure.— (Cheers.) Mr. Baxter cordially seconded the address. The petition was again read by Provost LINDSAY. Mr. DAVID JOBSON, jun., alluded, amongst other things, to the doings in Paris during the three days. Mr. Wst. CHRISTIE, banker, rose amidst shouts of applause. He had, for his own part, no fear of riot or tumult. The Ministry have not lost confidence in the King, and he trusted that the King had not lost confidence in his Ministers. Forty-one indivi duals have stood between him and the people—a base set of oligarchs, whose power will be short lived.—( Continued cheering.) Twenty-one Bishops, too, have set their faces against us, and helped to make tip this number of forty-one. The Bishops must no longer be Legislators.—(Great cheering.) tie, for his part, thought they should never have been so.—( Cheers.) Their doom, however, is fixed. The Bill is now over-due, and must bear interest from the date of the refusal, and which interest he hoped would be put upon the backs of the Bishops. Mr. GEORGE MILNE spoke nearly as follows : It is gratifying that an overwhelming majority of the ancient Nobility of England, who have the greatest stake in the country, and may also be sup posed to know best its Constitution, and what de gree of change would be beneficial, are at the same time the sincere, unequivocal, and ardent sup porters of Reform. Then who oppose it ? First and chiefly, the Bench of Bishops—a set of men who, more than any other, have reason to he grate ful for the benefits they enjoy in the State, but who, nevertheless, by a perversity of right feeling, wholly inexplicable, and by a disregard of their public duty as teachers of peace arid good-will, still More astonishing and lamentable, are ever ready, and do, in fact, on all occasions, exercise their Legislative privileges, not for the benefit, but to the obvious, and, so far as depends on them, the permanent injury of the people—that very people from whose hard earnings they derive their enor mous incomes. It has been said that the revenue of the Bishop of Durham is not less than 50,0001. per annum ; and perhaps some of you may think that this is not too much for a Bishop.—(Laughter.) But, be that as it may, the Bishops are unworthy of a place amongst British Legislators, on account of their incorrigible antipathy to good laws and cheap Government; and I most fervently hope that the first proceedings of a Reformed Parliament will be to pass a Bill depriving these men of their present high functions. At this crisis they have stepped forward as the avowed supporters of acknowledged abuses and the determined enemies of all political improvement. Will you tolerate this state of things.—(Cries of " No, no.") Had the Bishops voted for the Reform Bill, it would have been carried by a small majority, inste id of being thrown out by so formidable a number as have recorded their opinion against it. But let not the Anti-Re formers deceive themselves. They are already, virtually at least, in a minority even in the House of Peer., and the King and people have both de creed that they shall be so actually in the brief space of two or three months.—( Vehement cheers.) There is another description of Peers who, by their conduct, are doing all they can to force the consi deratioe of their utility upon public attention—l mean what are usually termed Law-Lords. It has often struck me that the Constitution of the Upper House, so fur as relates to these Peers, is extremely faulty. As the supreme Court of review in all couple of kingsw'saelsiest_c‘evtaphsootia'btli'gve questions of property, the person who presides in the House of Peers must, at all events, be a distin guished lawyer, and the people may well regret that, in times past, it has not been thought equally ne cessary that he should be an honest and intelligent Statesman." The question was then put as to whether the petition should be adopted, which was carried amidst thunders of applause. A Weaver, whose name we have not been able to learn, spoke at some length in favour of a depu tation being sent from the different towns," in an orderly and soldier-like manner," to present the pe titions in person. He was confident that any other course would be unavailing; and, in support of this opinion, he referred to the result of the petitions which had been sent up from Dundee in favour of the boys sentenced to be transported for rioting at the illumination. These petitions had produced no effect ; but, when a poor widow woman, the mother of one of the boys, went up to London in person, she obtained her object.—( Cheers.) Not only Dundee, but every town in the kingdom, should send up a deputation on the occasion. As Jethro said to Moses, the people should assemble by fifties, by hun dreds, and by thousands ; and let captains be ap pointed to preserve order and discipline—(Loud cheers, and marks of disapprobation.) He was an old soldier himself, and knew well the benefits qf or ganization. If the higher classes of society would take the lead in this business, he was sure that the working classes would manfully turn out. He for one was ready to march.—(Cheers..) Having fought in former days for a anxious to do something on his own account.— (Laughter and cheers.) Unless the people now assumed a bold front their doom was sealed.-- (Cheers.) He would compare the present state of fishes society lived to upon wliat the teo k small. ac thee or in as it harvest, be would say that the people were like the potatoes : the Oligarchy took a few of them out of the ground now and then, to be devoured as suited their inclination ; and, if the people did not take care, they would all be digged up and placed in pits under the ground to await the necessities of the boroughniongers.—( Cheers, laughter, am] confusion.) He concluded by calling upon the higher classes to come forward and organize the people. Mr. GABRIEL MILLER—I regret the sentiments which have fallen from the last speaker. He seems to have placed himself entirely under that black fl ig (pointing to a flag above the individual who had spoken)—(Cries of " So he should !" and violent but part►al hissing)—the emblem of woe and utter de spair ;—( Renewed hissing)—but I observe that all the other flags hanging from the gallery have got white edgings.—(Laud cheers.) These denote the brighter prospects derived from the knowledge that our Constitution has sanative powers within itself to correct a►►y morbid action in its parts ; and the conviction that this will be ex emplified on the present occasion by the exercise of the Royal prerogatives to which the people kive applied.—(Great cheering.) This will turn the darkness into light—(Cheers)—and convert our sorrow into gladness. Let not any one of my fellow-townsmen think of stripping the white borders from the black flag until all hope of con stitutional redress is gone.—( Several cries of " Off with them !" " No, no!" and considerable confusion.) Mr. W. CHRISTIE proposed that the petition be forwarded to Kul Camperdown, with a request that his Lordship present the petition to his Majesty in person.—Agreed to with acclamation. Provost LINDSAY proposed three hearty cheers for King William—which was responded to by the deafening shouts of the meeting. The Town Council, the Guildry, the Nine Trades, and the Three United Trades, have forwarded the petitions to the King. The Political Union have also forwarded a petition to the King and an address to the Ministry, praying them to remain in office— both agreed to unanimously at a numerous meeting. SURREY SESSIONS, OCT. 18. REV. ROBERT TAYLOR. The General Quarter Sessions for this county commenced on Tuesday, and it being expected that the conduct and treatment of Mr. Taylor at Horse monger-lane gaol would come under consideration, the attendance of the Magistrates of the county was more than ordinarily numerous. Mr. CRAWFORD, in reference to the indulgence which had been in the first place granted to the Rev. R. Taylor, and afterwards withheld in conse quence of his misconduct, gave his opinion that it was not competent for the Magistrates to grant in dulgences which were not specified in the prison regulations, and that Taylor had no right to com plain of his treatment. He moved a resolution, " That a Committee be appointed to take into con sideration so much of the Act of Geo. IV. c. 64, and of the rules and regulations, as related to the treatment of prisoners convicted of misdemeanour while undergoing the sentence to which they mly have been adjudged, with a view to the establish ment of a better understanding as to the extent of the authority vested in visiting Magistrates, and to the observance of uniformity of practice in relation to orders affecting the discipline and management of the gaol." _ _ _ Mr. DENISON, M.P. seconded the motion, and defended the conduct of the Magistrates in granting various indulgences to Taylor, such as allowing him to provide his own provisions and his friends to see him. The Hon. gentleman at the same time de- fended the conduct of Mr. Briscoe, M.P., in prt. sewing a petition from Taylor, complaining of tl e withdrawal of the indulgences, and the treatment he had received. In presenting it he had only done his duty. Sir. DRUMMOND, in an eloquent speech, defended the conduct of the Magistracy, at the same time he perfectly agreed with the Hon. Member, that Mr. Bsiscoe, in presenting a petition from Taylor, had only done his duty. He hoped, however, that the ou'cry raised against the Magistracy, both in and out of Parliament, and which had now become so fashionable, would not deter them from doing their duty. He said allusion had been made to the Ma gistracy of the city, but if they did not enforce the law with respect to prison discipline, the Magis tracy of Surrey should.—(Cheers.) He differed with the Hon. Member in his doctrines that indi viduals or societies had no right to become prose cutors in cases similar to that of Taylor's ; he in sisted that they had, more particularly when the At torney-General, the Government, or the King him self as the head of the church, neglected to do so. Mr. HOLME SUMNER took an opportunity of re butting a base and calumnious attack on the cha. racter of the :Magistracy of the county, on the pre sentation of a petition from Taylor to the House of Commons, namely, that the severity of the sen• tence passed on that individual was owing to the drunkenness of the Chairman, and the free circula tion of the bottle amongst the 'Magistrates, on the day and night of his trial. Several Magistrates con tradicted the as , ertion, and spoke from their own observation of the Hon. Chairman who presided on the occasion. Mr. BRISCOE, M.P., thought that the prison re gulations of Horsemonger-lane gaol were too se vere, and should be made more conformable with common justice. Mr. ifAIVES moved, as an amendment, " That the whole of the regulations under the 4th of Geo. IV., with respect to the prison discipline, be taken into consideration, and that the Committee report thereon, with a view to their general revision." Mr. DiturintoND, and other Magistrates, sup ported the amendment ; but on its being put from the Chair, it was lost by a majority of four. The original motion was then put and carried. STIPENDIARY CHAIRMAN FOR THE COUNTY. A Magistrate, whose name we understood to be TYLER, gave notice that he would on the next County•day, submit a motion that a Stipendary Chairman, with an adequate salary, be appointed for the county. THE THEATRES, &C. VAUXIIALL.—Mr. Thessiger moved the Court for a renewal of the licence granted to Vauxhall Gardens. There were no observations made in op position to the motion, and it was granted. ASTLEY'S.—Nir. Barnewell moved for the re newal of the licence of this theatre in the names of the same proprietors as last year. There was no opposition, and the licence was renewed. COBURG.—Upon the motion of Mr. Thessiger the licence of this house was renewed without ob servation. SulutEY.—Mr. Thessiger on motion obtained a renewal of the licence of this house for Mr. Charles Ellisten. ST. HELENA.—A licence for music only was granted to these well known tea-gardens. The Court was occupied the rest of the day in hearing parish appeals and in trying cases of larceny. LONDON SESSIONS, OCT. 20. REMARKABLE AFFILIATION CASE. Mr. ALLEY stated, that he was instructed to move for a confirmation of a conviction in a case of rather a singular description. Mr. Daniel Price, one of the overseers of the parish of St. Anne, Blaskfriars, was charged some time ago before Alderman Thorpe and Sir Peter Laurie, with being the father of an illegi mate child, by the widow of one of the paupers of the parish, named, Matthews, whose charms at tracted the appellant's eye, as she retired in tears from an unsuccessful application to the workhouse for relief. She was induced to wipe away her tears, however, by the persuasion of Mr. Price, who kindly invited her, and a female friend of her's, also a pauper, to accompany him to one of those accom modating mansions, where people of both sexes are received without any inquiry into character, and where the two poor women, and the overseer of the poor, contrived to drink brandy and water, and to improve their acquaintance in other ways, so that nine months afterwards a little girl was the result. Before the Magistrates, Mr. Price had resolutely denied the connexion; but, after all, Mrs. Matthews was the best judge. Mrs. Matthews, a most impudent and ugly pau per, t h e n stood up in the boy, and seemed etweed- ingly anxious to put the audienee in posso.o her case. Her husband had, she said, diecil;p farm-house of the parish on the 7th of Aug she received relief from the parish. DATIIe/s was the father of her child; he followed her 010 day between the 13th and the 21st of SW? 1810, after she had applied in vain for re lief if Russell ; they went to a house of ill fame i O 4 l lane, accompanied by an acquaintance of h, l Mrs. Winch, and the transaction occurred . gave rise to the babe she carried in her arm s ' upon her oath, the only time she ever ha d to do with anybody except her husband ; was present, and immediately afterwards got as intimate terms with Mr. Price. Mr. PHILLIPS—What ! were you, 8 :0 woman, a party in such an affair? Mrs. . a —1 confess I was. Mrs. Winch was there' as I, and she can't deny it. Mr. PHILLIPS—What ! a married wool° had never before been intimate with anY b her husband ? The RECORDER—She was only a wid ° Phillips.—(A laugh.) e vi" Mrs. Matthews repeated what she had t f stated. She swore point blank that she nett tioned that the transaction occurred on any , lar day! she did not recollect the day of t he or of the week. Mr. PHILLIPS—Did you tell the Aldernieedi circumstance which showed Mr. Price's ee l 's: be so profligate ?—Mrs.Matthews—No, o 4 Mr. PHILLIPS—No ! why not ? why „u conceal them after his ill-treatment o f you Matthews (after same hesitation)—Beca use the case was to go further on, and, therefo re, here to tell the truth p. you o eat kne N t i v r. Price's person after ? Mrs. Matthews—He came into the r ope t me as Mr. Hat mer, and I said h e looked en, - ,y; Mr. Price than Mr. Hamer; an d I burst ° mean to swear thiss th t r , o t ' crying, I did. 14' Re. examined—Mrs. Wi nc h an d I dre w paper for Mr. Price, and the lot fell upon 01e (Loud laughter.) „Ole Mr. ALLEY—What a terrible Turk.--li . e7one Mr. PHILLIPS declared that the case too serious a nature to admit of the least ' e „,' l ljec" J. Sharp, an overseer of the parish, rel 'he 11; that Mrs. Matthews applied for relief from t- ce°' to the 21st of September, and Mr. Price' s e i he believed, attracted by her. 0 101 Mr. ALLEY—You mean that he threW eye at the pauper ?—(Loud laughter.) s to° Mr. PHILLIPS, in a very powerful atldtej,,i,e Jury, requested their clos e a tt en tion to 61 " t he ft ticulars of the case. H e th en d w elt or ° es a dence of Mrs. Matthew s , an d re p re sented t ", condition in which a woman so dispose d ~?",°;' J anything might place any m an , in the u'i t hsi:! , on the Bench. He had witnesses to swe a r had told the most palpable falsehoods on t , lle trs' —that she had given various accounts of os" action—and that not a syllable she uttered , serving of credit. eV' Mr. PHILLIPS then called Mr. Russell, the of warden of the parish, who had instituted Bil y 0 1 , nation into the matter, and bore toti lri°ll4 ol / ' fact that Mrs. Matthews had mentioned aev r e „ a dt . rent days, and changed the date when she any difficulty was in the way. A t , ho,, Witnesses were also caPed, who pro ve " 0 1 ) Price was engaged in the country on s ° lll- p 4 days mentioned, and in town with o ther vy , on others. The evidence in p r oof or the P er . / indeed, of the most con v incing deFcriptioe, :het, The RECORDER and ALDERMEN stopped and quashed the conviction. true tha t l Mr. PHILLIPS said, it was quite Matthews had been in the house allude 0 d to,,P) 1,, was in company with a differentman,u, 1 was the Gth of September, which da y she swer, not the day on which the occurre nce took plat ' ' 117 PROGRESS or TRUTII.--The truttrat of every future generation will call the truth-ba e t r9 b e e preceding ages by their true names: for even s ilt stream of time carries onward. In fine, truths in itself and in the effects natural to it, may be Le as a gentle spring or water source, warm front earth, and breathing up into the snow-drift th at over and around its outlet. It turns the obstacle., own form and character, and as it makes its $ 44 /,:i its stream. Anti should it be arrested in its chilling season, it suffers delay, not loss, and for a change in the wind to awaken, and aga .- ward.— Coleridge. API° INTERESTING NEW BIOG— g - Woaxs.—Messrs. COLBURN and BENTLEY bag e d, C' lisped the following t—l. " Sir John Sinclair io` spondence," 2 vols. Svo. with portrait. contain a mass of curious information and A ll g, persons of celebrity."—Literary Gazette., pt : Li'e of Fuseli," 3 vuls. Bvo. with portrait. work calculated to maintain the purity of 1,1 7, ture."—Manthly Review. 3. 46 Northcote's Times of Titian," 2 vole. Bvo. with fine por tra y;: r " ; work contains original remarks on art gen' i rs o peculiar qualities of the Venetian School, an"i ti ° .l fi '. of TITIAN, its illustrious chief." — Literary , A new Edition of 4 4 Bourrienne's celebrated tire . tli t ' Napoleon," 3 vols. small Bvo. neatly bound, ,[ rolls illustrations, price only 21F. c me") WHOLESALE MURDER.-011e 0 . - was in comptny with a gentleman on We {113 ; 1111 / direct from Halifax, who stated that he w itot 4 per of HENBY GAMBLES, Captain of the La d gpl ° e ° i' from Londonderry, shipwrecked near CsP e , 19th ult., by which 273 persons lost their ticulars of which were given in our last. C ar t te aLES was convicted of intentionally wrecking bull get at the iniurance, and sentenced to be io ro o . , which he confessed that he deserved the informant states, that so heart-rending sver e ,„ t) r pOw' the horrible scene, in which nearly 300 "; were consigned to a sudden and watery gil t ,; whole Court, and apparently all the , P ec ioo6' . :;' tears. One of the witnesses, whose arm wag b r r° h ai l pleasant( P ay.AßNeaplnTtea anecdote Republican,Sept. Bau his wife and a large family of childrem-' e 6 0 /"‘ O:i 3 t 1;. 8 -- ud, T ien h i e y ; y r s - 1, n : : eote i • v rr ( o l t iea tl i i n e o f lottery, populwarhitiyc.h had d ie b fa a i r le d n ha li d fel p e u o b . lisli ta er p ; at o about Paris for a week to gather his laurel.' citftr, that the crop had entirely failed, be left th e . vo te ( e Muses and Graces with a solemn protest A00401,10' lieving that a Parisian knew good verses fro° bi ts , a league or two of the city he sat down to re't srl e ") soon perceived that he was the object of 11 : lots, 0 tion to all passers by. Some took off tbeiio4e'i. pressed their hands to their bosoms—salo e d' l stifTe Heaven as if thanking it for having sent '°,l, ,e d i t iO a genius upon earth. The bard was surp r i s ' o lo'd --overwhelmed with gratitude. He rog e r 3 0" ) gratefully taking off his hat to every gr ° : 4 ltor ge 'd At length one ma k threw hims e lf fromhi/The o, s io down, and approached him on his knees. i 0 be OW 00 .11 in taptures! " N o , no , m y goo d friend • i a ck° 0 " You must not offer this homage to me' I your taste. Yet remember that, altho u b t : t ir, s h author of the ' s i x t een sonnets,' 1 am st ill b 0 11 )10 1 The worshipper looked astonished, but proc ee (WO homage. The bard could no longer resist--- r d sty disobedience mastered hint. He rushed fur k, 1 / 10 , re A b,c himself in tears on the worshipper's oe r c o od I‘, l started up, and they both rolled on the g s or, when the bird, happening to cast his eYeti Ltr,, i . g 46', on the hank behind him an image of the ve s ai ° o 4o4i secret of the bowing and uncapping was He rose—brushed the dust front his culottelvt!;, dust eff his feet against the good city of P 3 : f ori;' way, and wrote verses no m0re.—.316/ , BIRTHS. pg,tui eon, jun the ,T i iri t h .Esq., of a son and h inst.at Barnes, county e o ir f Di 10'3'11' C O - 11/ f E. On the 18th inst. at Worthing, the lady o Esq. of a daughter. 044 31, / MARRIED. of 13 On the 19th init. at Devizes , J. Pow ell, F lrilli '' I.'' '' e P i r to Lydia Charlotte, third daughter of W. • - ' 4 ~ the former place. r . 1 3 3 . ..0 o r On the 18th inst. at Basing Church, A. C. 1,10 1 ' Miteham-green, Surrey,. to Charlotte :E O'Hara , c ,• I It. Booth, Esq., of Basing-house, Hampshire. f''' '' ' ot ) 0 i tn l , tt t h l h i the 18th 1 11 S: t tt l ii i iiitt,:sssttt... J. at fi Letitia,aN i V fo ra r I :g o b , e y , wifet h e D o t o ia .. g t . e r IA l a t: ' ' 'P r' her 69th year. ~.- J. 4 1e' Upper Clapton, aged 40. Middlesex. Esq., of Pic cad WY, an PRINTED AND PUBLI3IIED BY AIURDO I( '",t, SUN OFFICE, P 2, STRAND, LONP7 14 EAR NC ° tr ot , upon Tunnel ""e-eat Wall -----_____. INIpEi Nc PRIE I Lo ndon t 1 3 c ;fl dtad of firtn atii Clau se paned 18.4. At I Riv er , f or red A t l e Poi tn, 1 4 , en t : Lt ql Iti tti ' , Li, v„„ a„ i Lto, 4 44 lot„ r ttk , %v k4vt 1‘