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E CORPORATION FOR PRE SERVING and INIPROVING the PORT of IN ' 8". give 11 "te. , ' , that a Light-house has been •on the Tariert Rock, River Shannon, from which ' , (l Bright Light wiil he exhihireil 'i -, n the evening of 3 1st March next, and there'fter will be lit front ' to Sunrise. 't Rock Light.bouse bears by compass. , ...I Point ......... ;.i... E.S.E. '? 3 / 4 s, ,rtn Poirt of Beal Bar - - E.S.E. ,S. Scatter distant 1 , 11 ,. ,/, Nau_tic Mil::: isl.'igh Tower c rt o tn_ana a Y , hoal S. Point ... _ ,S S . . E E . . 13 ;'‘ y h E E. 4 E. -- g0,_1,1.1 Colem an , Sho al point N. W. by 1 \ • ••• 114 rb, , 71111 Rod ( ... N NV. 4w• - - , Ire i i „, ht ,t . I.‘y E.I. . N. T Le I n, . shown landward from S. 4 N • u antern is 58 feet over the level. oChigh.water. 13. service, dead weight, half pay out all. Surely, when the cause of this ueat finer'-sse (tl.e increase in the price of all sorts of provisions, &c.) was removed, the increased charge should be reduced, when things had c, me back to their previtms price. If the HOUSe 16 . 6131 . d go with him, he cauld sic no rcasonwhy tboy should not bring down the establishment of the navy to that which it was in one of the most perilous times in ill • history of this country, hunt the year 1317 to 132'2. • year 1822 the naval establishment was increased from various causes, those causes have passed away, and he knew no reason ,clay the House should not reduce the estimates by 2,000 men, and make them the same as 1828. The. Hullo Alenitter concluded by moving that instead of 27,500 seamen, including marines, the number allowed for the ensuing year be 25,000, thereby reducing the ted Fix ( rirber , Kilkad raan North LONDON, 1 (No. 2,930.) the same number of men, and a better equipped and ap- pointed navy ? Why, but half the sum now asked for by the Right Hon. Baronet. At any rote, should they not have had the papers before then ? He (Mr. C.) had worked on Sunday; he did not like to work on Sunday, but he must have done so, or he could not have known any thing of the contents of these estimates. Should the House be ultimately pushed into this matter, and be forced to consent to the passing of these items, before it was possible for them to know what their contents were? lion. Gentlemen were lamenting that the cry of agricultural distress from the country was loud and ge neral. What was it to him (Mr. C.) if they complained when they did not redress themselves ? He did not want to heat their complaints, but their votes in that House, and their speeches when they would let him • hear them in support of the reduction of Lxation.—(Hear.) It would Le in his mind indecent to proceed in this man ner, and if the House proceeded now without time to examine the different items contained in the docuinew alluded - to, they would not prove themselves to have the 'lad no doubt, produce a great moral et}: ct upon the internal and external relations of the country. He was sure the House would bear• with him if by ab- Slim t!y wit', be putilisben. I o 3 vols. past Bvo., IHE PROPHET CHIEFTAIN, a nev , Work of Fiction, describing the Grand and Romantic Scenery of Sorrhern Africa and the Indian Ocean, will shortly be published in 3 vols. It includes the extraor dinary History of the Prophet Chieftain Makanna, who, as will be a ecolketed by those conversant with the Cape: gained supreme influence by the assumption of superna tural agency. The Work is named after the Hero, ." Makanna ; or, the Land of tie Savage." IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. number by 2,500. 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William Whitmore, Esq. 4t4rotlictiokZitrion, Es q . John Wilson, Esq. nu, Esq. William Wilson, Esq. --Eharles Chippindale, Esq., Jameson Hunter, Esq., 141(14'.-1)r. arn ß e i s e t a l n n i s N on °l- 171) " 's ' ic E ia sq n . Extraordinary to the King. Sulloc ON.—James Wardrop, Esq. 1444 • ' l otrora CouxsEL—Charles Ellis, Esq. SOLICITOR —J. Haddan, Esq. Whitm . ore, Wells, and Whitmore, Lom- bard-street. THE ACTUARY.—J. M. Rainbow, Esq. a r 4-I)V ANTAGES OF THIS OFFICE, among A e:-- ! 11 7 t!, ~,P h a . "leipation septennial)) , in two-thirds of the telb ilkra flich may be apOrd either in reduction of the - , r\ r to augment the Sum assure/1' 4 ivision of Profits for the .even years ter mi- nating °° the 25th of March, 1832, BONUSES,‘ a. m ~Ut, .. n) COVRT CIRCriAR. • The Duke of Gloucester entertained a . select party at dinner, on Saturday evening, at Gloucester-house. . The Duke of Cumberland returned on Sunday to his residence at St. James's, from Kew. The Duchess of Kent and the Princess Victoria walked and drove in Hyde-park yesterday, for some time. Mr. Pease, M.P., Mr. Hutt, M.P., Mr. Bowes, M.P., Mr. Gully, M.P., Mr. Cayley, M.P., and several other gentlemen, had a conference yesterday with Viscount Althorp, at his residence in Downing-street, respecting petitions to the Lords of the Treasury from the coal owners, merchants, and others, of Stockton-upon-Tees and Kingston-upon- Hull. A deputation from the Van Diemen's Land Company, headed by Mr. Joseph Cripps, M.P., had an interview, yesterday, with Mr. Secretary Stanley, at the Colonial office. Sir James Graham entertained several of the Cabinet Ministers at dinner on Sunday evening, at his residence at the Admiralty. Mr. Mayers, the agent for Barbadoes, and Mr. Brown, the agent for Antigua, transacted business yesterday, at the Colonial-office. A Cabinet Council was held on Saturday afternoon, at the residence of Viscount Althorp, in Downing-street. The Ministers assembled between three and four o'clock. There were present the Marquis of Lansdowne, Earl Grey, the Earl of Ripon, the Duke of Richmond, the Earl of Carlisle, Viscount Melbourne, Viscount Palmerston, Mr. Secretary Stanley, the Right Hon. Charles Grant, Sir J. Graham, Lord Holland, and Lord John Russell. The Lord Chancellor art ived at the Council about five o'clock. The Ministets sat in deliberation till near six o'clock. The Swedish Minister transacted business on Saturday at the office of the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs. ' Mr. Burge, the Agent for Jamaica, and Mr. Burnley, transacted business at the Colonial Office on Saturday. The Speaker of the House of Commons gave his first Parliamentary Dinner this season on Saturday evening, to a p arty of 35 Members. The company appeared in full Court dress, the members of the Administration present wearing their officid costume. Among the party were Viscount Althorp, Viscount Palmerston, Mr. Secretary Stanley, Sir James Graham, the Right Hon. C. Grant, Lord John Russell, the Right Hon. Edward Ellice, Vis count Duncannon, the Right Hon. R. Grant, Viscount Howick, the Right Hon. Poulett Thomson, Viscount • Ebrington, Viscount Morpeth, Sir F. Burdett, Mr. A. • Tiiylor, Dr. Lushindton, Sir J. Campbell, Mr. Vernon • Smith, Mr. Spring Rice, Mr. •C. Wood, Sir J. Brooke Pechell, and Mr. W. Broughath. BRIGHTON, FEB. 16. This morning their Majesties, her Royal Highness the Princess Augusta, and the Suite and Houst.hold, attended Divine Service in the private chapel attached to the Palace ; Lady Clinton, Lady in Waiting, and Miss Hudson, Maid of Honour, sat in the pew with their Majesties. The Rev. Mr. Wagner read prayers, the Rev. Dr. Everard assisted at the Communion Table, and the Rev. J. Anderson preached a most eloquent sermon from the 31st verse of the 27th chapter of the Acts of the Apostle , . Mr. Gutteridge played the organ, and the choir sang the Stith and 1434 Psalms, with much taste and effect. On Friday afternoon their Majesties took a carriage airing together as far as Norfolk-bridge, beyond Shoreham, and hack to the Palace. In the evening they entertained a select party at dinner, including the Princess Augusta, Lady Ciinton, Cdonel and th- Hon. Mrs. Disbrowe, Sir George Hamilton, Earl and Countess of Elm!, Dowager Lady Kiltnaine, Miss Hudson, Sir Edward and Lady Disbrowe, Miss Kennedy, Hun. Mrs. Disbrowe, Com mander Koppel, Lieut.-Colonel Grey, Lieut.-General Sir Henry Bayley, the Rev. J. Gossett, and the Royal Suite. The Queen's band were present, and performed tome ad mired pieces of music. The Duke and Duchess of Sutherland continue at By ham House; their Graces, together with Lord George Her vey, Lady Kilmaine, and Lord George and Miss Quin, visited their Majesties in the course of the afternoon. Tile Giant! Falconer of England entertained the nobility and gentry with a display of hawking, on Friday, about four miles from here, on the road leading to the Devil's Dike. Ter, re were present a numerous assemblage of the hula ton, including the Earl or Errol, Sir Herbert Taylor, Countess of Winterton, Ladies Tumour, Lord A. Beauclerk. The birds selected for desti uction were pi geons, most of whom fell an easy prey to their murderous pursuers. The amusement. if such it could be called, terminated about three o'clock, when most of the company repaired to St. Albans House, where a splendid dejeune was prepared for their reception, including every delicacy of the season, after partaking of which dancing commenced, and was kept up with the greatest animation until nearly 11 o'clock. To add to the harmony of the evening, Miss Corti, Madame Sala, and Miss Coveney were specially engaged by her Grace. The King was in public yesterday, accompanied by his daughter, the Countess of Errol. Colonel Fox arriv , d list evening at the Pilace, on a visit to their Majesties, with whom he had the honour of dining. The invited guests to the Royal table on last evening in cluded the Earl and Countess of S'oeffielil, Lord and Lady Gage, Lord Saltoun, Lieutenant-General Sir Henry Bayley, and Mr. and Lady G. Foley. The Duke and Duchess of St. Albans continue at their residence in Regency-square, where they purpose sojourn ing until the middle of next month. Tue last " Alinack's hail" for the present season will take place on the evening of Wednesday next, at the Old Ship, under the patronage of the Marchioness of Down- shire, and the Countessesiistowel, Ross , e, and De Srlis. Preparations are being made at the Palace for the d-p.ir ture of the Court, which will leave here on Thursday next for London. Several articles of prate and furniture are in the course of removal. FEBRUARY 17. After divine service yesterd ,y, the King, accompanied by the Princess Augusta, drove out on the cliff , , pass ing several Limes between Hove and Kemp-town in the course of his drive. The Queen, accompanied by Lady Clinton, Miss Hud., son, and Miss Bagot, attended afternoon service at St. George's Chapel, when the Rev. J. Anderson preached a most eloquent sermon. The body of t'.e sacred edifice was crowded with mobility and gently, as on th e p rev i o us Sunday. Sir Henry Bayley, Lord Saltoun, and the Royal suite, !'ormed the dinner party last evening at the Palace. Her M ij.sty honoured the Marchioness of Downshire (Baroness Saynds) with a visit, at her residence on the Old Steyne yesterday aftern ,on. Lord Marcus Hill, Hon. Captain Powlett, Lady Kil at aine, Lieut.-General Sir Henry Bayley, and Mr. A. Blackwood, visited their Majesties. The Grenadier Guards at present quartered in the in'antry barracks hire, will leave on Friday next for London. A LACONIC CRITIQUE.—A Philadelphia paper says, " Miss Kenil)le's Jane Shore was quite the thing. The last act particularly was given with vernen dohs effect." - - The House met to-day at five o'clock. Prayers were read by the Bishop of Hereford. On the motion of the Marquis of LANDOWNE, the Factories' Regulation Amendment Bill was read a third time and passed. L ,rd ELLENBOROUGH, in reference to a return he held in his hand, wished to ask the Noble Lord opposite (Auckland) at what period the adjustment of the account of the Customs usually took place? He (Lord Ellenborotigh) apprehended that the time was previous to June, inns much as the return he held in his hand, printed in June 1 ist, nearly corresponded with the return of the imports for the previous year. That return was incorrect it, some respects, on account, as be apprehended, of being made up previous to the final adjustment of the account. He trusted his Noble Friend would in future have the accounts of the Customs finally adjusted before any returns were made,"inasmuch as if they were not so, they would always be subject to errors. Ile thought it would be as well that the alterations in duties should be inserted. Lord AUCKLAND said the usual time at which the adjustments were made was on the 25th of March, but those accounts did not probably get into the b ands of their Lordships before the end of April.—(Hear, hear.) It was almost an impossibility to have the accounts as correct as could he wished, but they were far more correct than his Noble Friend had stated, inasmuch as many errors had been corrected upon that return in the out-ports. He admitted that it would be desirable that the alteration of duties should be inserted in the accounts, and he thought if his Noble Friend would look to the ac counts of last year he would find that such a course had been adopted. Lord ELLENBOROUGH said that the account was so incorrect, that be bad found an error in it of no less than a million of gallons of wine. The account he had referred to had been presented to the House in conse quence of an order made in June last. Lord AUCKLAND said he would make inquiries into the subject. Lord ELLENBOROUGH observed that tl e account, as far as regarded Cape and French wines, was perfectly correct, but as to all others, it was most inaccurate. The subject then dropped. The Bishop of LONDON presented a petition from the Archdeacon and clergy of the archdeaconry of Ely, in fa vour of the better observance of the Sabbath. Also another petition, from the same body, praying that no measures might be introduced that would affect the church establishment.—(Heir,:hear.) The petitioners were fearful that such measures would be introduced in consequence of the vehement appeal on the part of the Dissenters. The petitioners wished the Dissenters to be dealt fairly with, and had no objection to a national registration of hi: the. The Right Rev. Prelate concurred entirely with the prayer , f the petition. The House then adjourned. BO USE OF COMMONS, FEB. 17. Mr. JAMES OSWALD brought up the Report of the Committee upon the Glasgow Supply of Water Bill, stat ing that the orders of the House had been complied wish. —Laid on the table. Mr. Alderman WOOD brought up the Bill for Improv ing the Approaches to London Bridge.—Read a first and second time. Mr. CARTWRIGHT presented a petition from certain Magistrates of the county of Buckingham, the purport al which, from the noise in the House, we could not catch. Sir E. KNATCHBULL gave notice of a motion for the return of the number of prisoners tried by courts- martial during the last ten ye3rs. Mr. FINN gave notice of a motion for a return of the Peace Preservation Establishment in Ireland for the year 1833, and for a similar return of the number of police employed for the city of Dublin. Sir JAMES GRAHAM moved the order of the day for going into a Committee of Supply. Lord G. SOMERSET, seeing the Hon. Member fi Rochester in his place, and finding that the Raise was now about to consider the Navy estimates, wished to know whether he would bring forward his motion, of which he had given notice on Friday night? Mr. BERNAL said if he could bring it forward before 12 o'clock he should do so. INIr. before O'C the NELHLosuusgegitestwedoutlhiatbaes well thereto make so much business ueh an order day , otherwise the bu siness would be left Wed nesday much in arre,ir.—(Hear.) Lord ALTHORP said be should have no objection, provided it should he found ,hsolutely necessary. The Marquis of CHANDOS put a question to Lord Alihorp, requesting to be inform d whether it was the intention of Government to appoint a Committee to hear evid, nee to support the necessity of a Bill of men tion was made last session, for strengthening the police in agricultural districts? Lord ALTHORP, who spoke in a very low tone, was understood to say, that he was not at that moment pre pared to give the required information. Just .as the House was about to resolve itself into a Committee of Supply on the Navy Estimates, Mr. COBBETT rose and slid, they were about to take into consideration the Estimates of the Navy, which had been laid before them. It was particularly, positively, and he might say, solemnly promised, that the House should have accounts of every description laid before it in such on!er as to give plenty of time for serious consileration before they came to a discussion. The Navy Estimates con sisted of 45 folio pages, and contained upwards of 1,100 money items, to consider each of which, with gr, at per tieularity, was the bounden duty of all before they gave a vote for a single sixpence._(Hear, hear, hear.) Therefore, when the Right Hon. Baronet called on them to night to vote a sum of four tuitions four hundred and odd thousand pounds for the service of the navy, it was quite clear that the House could not be considered in that respect a deliberative assembly, for not one-ten'll of the Members knew the contents of the papers laid ' before the House, and three fourths of them could net have looked into them. flow long bad they had these estimates before them ? Since Friday last. They had had a good day's work on Friday, and he (Mr. Cob het) had been ts - n hours in the House. Then came Saturday, and then Sunday. They had received strong exhortations not to employ the Sunday in that way; but, allowing the usual hours for sleeping, eating, and drinking, the Members of that House had had only six hours to examine forty•five folio pages, containing eleven hundred items, to vote a farthing of which ap peared a crime to him, until he bad satisfied himself that they ought to be voted. Then there were certain Noblemen and Gentlemen who meant to bring forward a motion for the repeal of the malt tax. He (Mr. Cobbett) hoped they meant to do so. He hoped they meant to show that they understood their own interests sufficiently to resolve upon taking off this tax. How could they take elf this tax if they voted money away for these estimates without considering what they did ? For merly the custom had been to discuss the grievances of the country, and then vote the supplies; but now the system was to vote away the money first, and then talk about the grievances of the people. The great grievance of the people at the present time was the malt tax ; the next was the hop tax ; and then there was the soap tax ; and yet with these grievances before them, here they were about to vote away six or srven millions of money. It was for the House to examine these accounts, and go through them accurately. The Noble Lord says he cannot spare the malt tax, but he (Mr. C.) would tell the Hon. Baronet that his constituents could not spare the money. —(Hear.) The Right Hen. Baronet goes to the Noble Lord for the money, and says he wants four millions tour hundred and odd thousand pounds ; the Noble Lord says,—O, but they want to take off the malt tax ; but the Right Hon. Baronet might say to him' that he had the money in his pocket. He (Mr. Cohhett) said that they wanted time to consider these items, but the Right Hon. Baronet said this money wasall wanting. He (Mr. Cobbett) would ask for what? Not to make war, that was certain. Peace, peace everlasting, was on the lips of the MYnisterta—(Hear, hear.) If war, or the possibility of war, was hinted at, they cried no ,"--(Hear, and laughter.) if peace, their cry was, " Yes, yes, yes." It might be said that the people would support the navy—that it was the favourite service—that it was the bulwark and best protection of L the country. Agreed—he (Mr. C.) was quite willing to vote as much as was voted last year, ~hen it was acknow • bulged by the Right Hon. Baronet that the Navy was more efficient than now. lbw much yoed then for people'a interest at heart. Sir J. GRAHAM confessed that he did not suppose the Hon : Gentleman serious in his motion. The .arrange mentasmade now were simplified so as to afford the best facility in ascertaining the required expenditure, and to give asatorrect idea of the estimates. It was a thin; of oaramount importance that no postponement should take place, as affairs were pressing on, and. time was propor tionably valuable. Hs hoped that on resection the Hon. Gentleman would not urge his motion. The House then resolved itself into a Committee, and the SPEAKER left the Chair. NAVY ESTIMATES. Sir J. GRAHAM rose to move the navy estimates. Under the present circumstances, he thought he might be permitted to congratulate the House on the prospect of a financial improvement in commencing their career. The Hon. Meml er opposite, in a speech before the House resolved itself into Committee, occasioned a laugh from the manner in which he spoke of the indifference with which the House had been in the habit of voting large sums of money. With respect to the Navy, he wished to be distinctly understood to say that there had been con side:table reductions, and that those reductions had been most effectually made,—(Hear.) He had on a former occasion urged on the House the justice and neces sity of considering attentively what the position was of the finances of this country when the present Ministers soca ceeded to office. At that time the expenditure had been re duced by great and honest efforts to 50,000,000, 5,000,000 of which constituted one item, over which the executive Government possessed no efficient control. Other reduc tions left of that sum only a surplus of 15,000,0001. an nually, on which the demands of Government could be brought to bear. The Wellington Administration during its last year reduced the taxation 3,000,0001. and a frac tion, which reduction was rendered possible by a co-equal reduction in the expenditure. Since that period, namely, three years, during which the present Ministers had been in office, a similar reduction bad been made. That was to say, the sum of 15,000,0001., the expenditure, had been reduced to 12,000,0001.—(Hear) —a reduction of more than 20 per cent. ; a further reduction of taxa tion within the last three years had taken place of 3,300,000/, constituting within the last four years a re duction of not less than 6,400,000/., which had been attended by a simultaneous reduction in the expenditure. It became the House then to consider the whole of this had been the result of a gradual and temperate reduc tion. it had been gradual and temperate, therefore effec tual. It would not have been effectual, had it not been systematic. Had it not been systematic, it would not have been permanent, and attended by a progressive itictease in the comforts of the country, which alone could make economical reform consistent with the safe policy of a great nation. Having proceeded on these principles, he had the satisfaction, notwithstanding the reductiam effected to the extent he had mentioned, of 201 self cent.' within the last few years, of finding that by the ti,tanates now to he brought forward; it was pro. posed to effect a further reduction, as had been stated on Friday; of no less than about half a million of money. A reduction had been made since the present Ministers had come into office, during the first year, viz. in 1830, upon an opinion, formed by himself and his colleagues, upon those materials which were not so easily purchased and which it was so desirous to bold in store, in order to provide for the supply of steam vessels of war. When he came into office, he did not hesitate in proposing an in crease of the estimate of the preceding Administration of the Duke of Wellington, and the House in its confidence readily granted it—he, at the same time, promising that every exertion should be used to promote the strictest economy that was consistent with maintaining the naval power of this country. Since the estimates of 1831, a reduction had been made to the amount of not less than 1,000,000/, and on the present occasion, in addition to the saving effected last year, he now proposed to continue that reouction, to the extent of 180.000/. further, so that on an outlay of under 6,000,0001., the total reduction was not less than about 1,200,0001. The Right Hon. Gaut. then pro ceeded to state the items from which the reductions had b,en made. One great reduction arose from the system adopted in the clock yards. That system hail been entirely changed, and the number of labourers employed had been reduced to 6,000, which was the number fixed by the predecessors of the present Government, as competent fir a peace establishment. The number was still 6,000, upon whicli a reduction of a 2,0001. had been made in wages.—(Hear, hear.) The next was a reduction upon an item to which a margin charging 10 per cent. was attached, a portion of which was sometimes unexpended, and he had reduced that from ten per cent. to five per cent. Upon that item there would be a saving of 42,000/. a-year. There was another saving, which he was sure the House would receive with satisfaction ; and it was suggested by his predecessor in office : he alluded to the half-pay. When he came to the Admiralty the rule was there should 'be only one promotion to every three vacancies, and that occasioned the reduction in the tialf.pay of the navy of 65,0001. This year he was happy to say that the re ruction in that respect would be from 24,000/. to 25,0001. more. lle hoped it would be sufficient to say, that curing • the list year there had been a re uction of 181,0001., which made with the reductions of the former year 1,111,0001., and since 1831, 1,400,000/. in the Navy Estimates. He would then proceed to notice a subject connected with a particular vote which had been alluded to, and which took - place in the May of the last year. He had proposed, it would be recollected, a reduction of 500 wen, adding in their places 1,000 buys, in consequence of the dis cussion which took place last session, when his attention was called to the fact, which he found upon inquiry to be well founded, that it was of vast impoatance to introduce boys into the King's navy for the first time when they went to sea, as it was cleerly established that boys SO entering from early habit acquired a decided preference for the King's service.—(llear,_hear.) By this means the want of men, which was more or less dependent upon the practice of impressment, would lie more easily supplied. It would be contrary to his feelings open the subject, if he had not taken some steps to meet the strongly expressed wishes of the House.—(Cheers.) Therefore the nun - liter of seamen had been reduced by 500, „instead of which he had proposed an oddities' of 1,000 boys. 17,500 men, with 1,000 boys, wouel require no more than 18,000 toeu, therefore as to wages there would be no increase from the change. The rations of men and boys were the same, so that on that head there would be an increase; but, as he had stated muter the head of wages, there would he no increase. The decrease of 500 men, therefore, with time addition o f 1,000 boys, was effected without an increase of charge or wages, and would be a considerable saving in the end. He felt that he would be betraying his duty if tie expatiated ..t any length upon this subject. The number of men he had proposed he considered necessary, anti 1, cling that he was address ing a deliberative assembly, he felt that he should he betraying that confidence with which they hid in trusted his Majesty's Ministers, if with reference to the present political position of the country he were to state vat they svould be justified in any way diminish ing the navy.--(Hear, Lear, hear.) He hoped the liruse would riot cavil at the statements, or call upon him to state the particular reasons which produced this impression on his mind.—(Heir, hear.) He hit satis fied that any further reduction in the Navy would not he productive of good, or consistent with the interests of the country, or with its station as the first naval power ia the nook!. Ile would, therefore, urge them strenu otiely and cordially to vote at once, the number of men required, as their, so doing, would, be required number of men ; hut if the Hon. Member had 'sat in the House, as he (Mr H.) had done for 25 years, lie would have found that no Minister during the whole of that time had ever proposed the estimates without the same sort of call upon the House. The Hon. Baronet had called them a deliberative assembly. Ought he not then to have given some reasons for the large number of men that he had called upon the House to vote ? (Hear, hear.) Without any reasons, they were called upon to vote a certain number merely because it was the opinion of the Hon. Baronet, backed by that of Lis col leegues, that such a number was necessary. The Hon. Baronet, in the commencement of his address, had invited discus ion upon the general taxation of the country, in stead of confining himself to the department that more pe culiarly belonged to him. He (Mr. H.) most gladly embraced the opportunity, and he would positively say, that the House was bound to inquire into the taxation of the country and its present situation, before it granted such a number of men as was now asked for—it should not only inquire into its present situation, but should compare it with what it was in former times. He had no hesitation in saying that the Government which preceded the present one bad greatly augmented the expenditure ; and he was most ready to give credit to the Government of the pre ssnt time for again bringing hack the expenditure to what it formerly was. But he would call upon the Mouse to look back to the year 1817, when it was found that twenty thousand men were quite sufficient to do all that was required—(Hear, hear)—and he really knew of nothing in the present time that called for more vigilance, or a greater force. But looking at the House as it was constituted in the time of the former Government, considering that they had the House entirely with them, he must say that the country was much indebted to them, for the Right Honeurable Baronet below him (Sir Robert Peel) had only to ask for what he wanted, and it was at once granted ; therefore, though they had added considerably to the hurdens of the country by adding to the efficiency, as it was called, of the navy, still the country ought to be obliged to them for their moderation.—(A laugh.) He would inquire whether the crse was not now the same. He was afraid it was ; for by the cheers which he heard around him when the Hon. Baronet con cluded, he was much afraid the present Ministry had only to ask, and they were sure to receive. Those cheers seemed to bite as if the House had given its assent to all that had fallen from the Hon. Baronet. But he would ask again why it was, it they were a deliberative assembly, that they were to proceed in• the dark—with out reasons of any kind to guide them—to tell them whether they were right or wrong ? No reason was as signed them by the House, except that both he and his colleagues were of opinion that the number asked was nice-nary ; but was that enough for the House? should not they require some reason to show that in the present year they requited 7,000 men more than was wanted in the year 1817, under Lord Castlereagh, who, it was well known, was not one of tile most economical ministers ? What, lee would ask, were the circumstances of Europe at the present time, which would warrant the people of England being taxed with the maintenance of 5 or 6,000 men more than were necessary ? The Hon. Barone: had not given any reason why such a course should be pursued. In his (Mr. Hume's) opinion, England appeared to be so Quixotic a nation, that it would pick a quarrel with any pact of the world, if it could but keep up an immense establishment. The Hon. Barnet had not given any reason why they should not descend to the state they were in in 1817 and 1792. He would here mention that the expenses of the dockyards, though considerably reduced, were far beyond the wants of the nation ;—he believed he might say that the navy, consistirg of about 325,000 tons, might be built with a much less number of men than were at present employed. Ships were built, year after year, and left to rot ; and if a state of warfare should take place, they never would be fit for service. He was quite prepared to say that the navy ought to he the strongest establistilDent ; but if it was considered ne. cessary during the Tory administration of the country to reduce it 20,000, surely the present state of things could not he right when there were employed between five and six thousand men above the usual mark. He thought that Ministers ought, consistent with their own conduct and opinions previously expressed, to state why they considered it necessary to keep up more men than their Tory predecessors. He protested against the amount of the establishment, reduced as he admitted it to have been, it being clear to him that the number of men at present employed was by far too great. Ile was as willing as any man to give the Right Ho nourable Baronet credit for the reduction he had made. Was it not a breach of faith to the old officers to promote young ones after the conclusion of the peace? And was it not also in every instance a breach of faith with the country, a great violation of the promises of economy, and a constant accumulation of the burdens of the country ? He feared that system was still going on. No promotion ought to take place but for merit— no favour, no interest, whether Whig or Tory, ought to he allowed to carry on such a system.—(Hear, hear.) It seemed, however, that the Honeurable Baronet took the same care of his Tory friends as the Tories did of their Whig friends.—(Laughter.) He complained that there bad been an addition of a single man to the charge of the public as an officer, unless actual and intrinsic merit rendered him deserving, while there were out of the 5,000 officers in the service, 4,000 on half-pay. Any man who looked at tie list of promotions since the peace would find they consisted chiefly of the aristocracy, who had not done, because they had nut seen, any serviee.—(Hear.) The Hon. Baronet challenged the Tories when they were in office with an abuse of promotion ; but had he deviated one jot from following the same course? He acted entirely upon the same rule laid down by his predecessors, namely, that there should be no limit to promotions save and except the discretion of the First Lord of the Admiralty. Was it right to promote members of Noble families and those who had Parliamentary connexions? Was it for the good of the service to raise youngers over officers who were both old and meritorious? It was the contrary—it was nut beneficial. Common sense was quite enough to show that the result of such influence was very injurious to the service. Government ought to receive no credit fur the manner in which they distributed their promotions. They complained very much of the conduct of their predecessors l but when they took their places, they just followed their steps. The present Government were situated diffe, ently from those who went before them. They said that the system of patronage should be checked, Was this consistent with what they did afterwards? Was it consistent with n hat the Noble Lord (the Chan cellor of the Exchequer) had said, that the service should he carried on without patronage ? Was this pledge ever fulfilled ? Tney had then merle pronto tioes in the navy,—so many steps for patronage. Lord ALTHORP, 1 never said so. Mr. HUME—This is a new light e.rown on the business, but the country understood that the system of promotions by undue p Aron :get should be done away with. The pressure of taxation was now too heavy, end the House should pause before they granted such a number as 27,000 men.—(Hear, hear, hear.) He considered the present estimates the same as last year. The alteration of 180,0001. may he fairly accounted for by the changes which, as a matter of course, pursuant to the Right Hon Baronet's statemennt, should have been in Ale. He thought that a sum of 180,000/., out of four millions four hundred and mid thousand pounds. was no reduction at all—(Hear, hear, hear.) The House was net to consider what the estitna'es of last year were, but the ouestion was whet was neces sary for the service of the country.? They ought not to voie a single man more than was necessary now. In the year 1792, when they had the fleets of France, Spain, and in short the whole naval power of Europe liable to be brought against them, tiny had not kept up within some thousands of so large a naval establishment. The question was ex tremely simple, and he should be sorry to as-ume the' any of those men who were paid for !eel not done their deity. Unless the House began by reducing the expen diture, they could not take dr the taxes. He (Mr, recollected When A tutu of two mil made a sweeping charge against them, . amount ng to an universal condemnation.—(Bear, hear.) As to his (Sir James Graham) having improperly bestowed the patronage attached to his cffice, he denied that he , listributed that patronage unfairly or partially.— (Hear, hear, hear.) He also denied that he had particularly distributed it among members of the aristocracy. Indeed, he conceived that it was important to the effective state of the navy, that the patronage in that depa-tment should be distributed amongst all classes. He defied the Hon. Gent, to say that lie had acted other wise than upon that principle of fairness and impartiality. But the Hon. Member had said that a great portion of the present navy might he dispensed with, for that, he would undertake to s iy, 300,000 tons might be built in ' -ix years; but in war time it might be• necessary to have the whole 600,000 tons in six days—(llear, i.ear)—and then what would become of that Hon. Member's plan if the ships in the interim were allowed to go into decay The Hon. Gentleman also attacked the Government on the subject of promotion. He was of opinion there ought to be n., promotion in time of peace. What then was to become of those who bad spent their best days in the sf!rs ! vice in the hope they would eventually be promoted ? Of the Captains at present in the navy, the avetage a: - :e of 100 was 60. To atop promotion would be to deprive " ' many meritorious officers of all recompense fur the hard ships and dangers they bad been exposed to in theservice, and for the broken nerves and shattered constitutions which many of them had received in their arduous yro fession. Until such time as the Hruee adopted the no tions of the Hon. Member (and he had reason to believe they were not yet prepared for that), the Government of which he was a member, and he himself in his own de partment, must steadily pursue that course they bad hitherto pursued. He was sure the Hon. Member did not wish to delude the public on the subject of the exts,c to which the present Government had reduced the tax ation of the country. He must be aware that in the space of three years the present Government had reduced taxes to the extent of 5,000,000/, while in the same short time they bad reduced the expenditure by 3,000,000/. Air. G. F. YOUNG said there must be something net; extraordinary in the circum'tances of the country that would justify any attempt to lessen that moral force which it was so desirable this country should possess in the eyes ,if foreign nations. With, regard to the speech of the Hon. Member for Middlesex, it was only a repetition of what he had said last year on a similar occasion, without the slightest success. He (Mr.. Young) regretted that the linuse should not unanimously accord to Ministers the estimates submitted that evening to it. He would give , the Right Hon. Baronet and the Government his most cordial support on this occasion, though as much opposed to anything in the shape of extravagance as any Hon. Member could be. Mr. CUTLAR FERGUSSON said, if there ever was a period when the state of Europe was such as to make it necessary for this country to keep up an efficient navy, that period was the present.—(Cheers.) It might soon be necessary that the naval force of this country be sent forth to support the honour and interests of the nation. and to preserve the independence of Europe. The Hon. Member for Middlesex must know as he (Mr. Fereussoni did, that the exercise of this force might soon be necessary. lie would not on any account vote fur any reduction in the number of men in the present navy. He regretted that in the estimates which had that night keen submitted to them, there was no reference by the Right Hon. Baronet to the name of Captain ROBB. That individual had returned to this country after a five years' absence, during a great part of which time the universal opinion was that he was lost. He, therefore, thought he was entitled to notice on the part of Government He (Mr. Ferguson) begged to take that ooportunity of mentioning, that en an early day he would move that the grant of a certain sum of money be given to Captain Russ, in consideration of the losses he had incurred, and the discoveries he lied made in his voyages to the North Seas.—(Cheers.) Captain YORKE rose to congratulate the Right Hon. Baronet on the estimates he had that night brought be fore the House. They were the best estimates which had been submitted to that House for years. Mr. CHAPMAN said, that the country owed the present Administration great thanks for what they had done in keeping up the efficiency of the ravy. The only observation he had to offer on yaws point was, that if any - Hon. Member made any proposition for voting a reward to that highly meritorious efficer, Captain Ross, it should meet with his hearty concurrence.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. LLOYD could not support his Hon. Friend the Member for Middlesex on the present occasion, however anxious lie was in general to reduce the expenditure of the country. It, however, when the Army Estimates were brought forward, his Hon. Friend should move for any reduction on them, such a proposition should have his support; but he could not concur in any such reduction with reference to the navy. He thought the support and consideration which the Ministry had asked for was very reasonable and proper. Every man who did not shut his eyes to the present state of Europe must see the necessity. of our keeping up an efficient naval force. The navy of Britain was her right arm ; and no man who loved his country could desire to see that arm lopped off, oa even rendered less powerful. Mr. COBBETT said a great deal had been said by some Members about the necessity of keeping up an un diminished naval force ; while, on the other hand, the lion. Member for Middlesex denied that any such neees sity existed during a time of peace like the present. To this be would say that it was not altogether for the pure.. pose of carrying on war that a certain naval force was, ne cessary to be kept up, but also for the purpose of main taining peace—(Cheers)—and he agreed with the Hon. Baronet in his catimate solely because he lat i ol this opinion. He was as anxious as any man could i ne to support the efficiency of the navy, and he ole.jected to give his vote to the Hon. Member for Middlesex for that reason. What he objected to was, tha sum the navy cost, not to the number of men kept up. The cost of the navy in th e year 1782, when we were at war with France, Spain, and liolLind, was only 1,900,0001. more than the -urn now applied for by the economical Baronet oppos.te. Last erasion it was punt - lied that the estimates for this year should he laid before the House at an early part of the session, with the view of giving time for the oue conaideta tien of them before the money should be actually applied for ; he must confess that this promise had been observed, so tar as related to the mere fact of bringing the estimates forward early in the session ; but the objection, the nui sance of the former plan remained : for, though the estimates were, as for merly,hrought forward at an early period enough, the House was called upon to discuss them, or rather, to grant the money, without any reaaanable time being riven to the Members to consider the items as they ought ; in point of fact, when the estimates had only been a few hours printed. The Right Hon. Baronet had been most lustily cheered at his announcement of each prop• sed reduction ; but he (Mr. C.) thought the lion. Baronet was very little entitled to thooe cheers, when it was eon. , idered what particular accidents had rendered the pro posed rtductions easily practic.ble, or, indeed, almost im possible that at least 40 , 0001 . had been saved to the coot:tr y possible to be avoided. For ins taller, it should be r eorient • by an act of pure Provioence, namely, that whieb had produced the present cheapness of corn ; surely the Righ::: Hon. Baronet should not appropriate to hints,lf a bene faction which had dropped upon us from the sky. T,,en, as to the other port of the reduction, from what did thin. come? Why 19,0001. had been cut off from the poor artficera.—(hear, hear.) The Right Hon. Baronet had male a large reduction among the net fiverF, but none among the officers. If this }Tin fact hid cute out bete re the Right Hon. Baronet had spoken, he would not have received the cheers which hid been bestowed on hint by a certain number of M. tubers, mere long -tongued than numerous. He (Mr. Coblott) re. I terated, what be objecteo to in the navy was not its nume -1 jeal force, but its cost, which was outrageous. He could not see, nor could the country be able to see, bow the navy should now cost 4,400,0001., when there was just effective a one kept up a few years back for half tee money; indeed, a more tifect , v , one, as the Right Hon. Baronet had last year acknowledg.d. The light Hon. Baronet, ti lien he sat on that (the Oppositum) side of tee House, boa wade a motion respec,ing the # nermous stiwS received by the Privy Cooucil, and the wriale of puOlie money in the Foreign Consulate arrtment,