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Zbirb lZbiti on -01 , 77 CE, Seen BIRKBECK TESTIMONIAL. (THIS DAY.) A public meeting was this day held at the Freemasons' Tavern, Great Queen-street, for the purpose of receiving ehe Report of the Committee appointed (at an adjourned public meeting in the theatre of the London Mechanics' Institution, .on the 3d of August, 1841) to take into consideration the best ,means of testifying the public gratitude to Dr. Birkbeck for Vie services in promoting the education of the people, especially by the promotion of Mechanics' Institutions, Lord Brougham its the Chair. The meeting was advertised to take place at one o'clock, but, .long before that hour, persons began to arrive, and by the time :the chair was taken, the Ball was crowded. There were seve tral ladies in the body of the Hall and also in the Gallery. Lord ;Brougham took the chair at twenty-five minutes after one oteclock. His Lordship was greeted with the most enthusiastic cheering from all parts of the Hall as he en tered. Lord John Russell, who made his appearance upon the platformimn ( i ) e ,l - ttately aster Lord Brougham, was also loudly applauded. m t , he platform we observed Lord Dudley Stuart. Mr . Hume, M. P., eNtr. Roebuck, M.P., Dr. Bowring, M.P., Mr. Monckton X: ilnes, M.P. Lord BactuunAet, on taking the Chair, said, It is impossible f r rue to open the business, the important business of this day. tipsiness which I may venture to describe as at once me laneleely and gratifying, witheut observing in my own vindica tion, net so much for haling come among you on the present, as for having on so many former occasions during the last two r three /ears found myself under the absolute necessity of declining to accede to so many applications from many persons I Sea assemiried to-day to attend public :meetings. I may add that the rule which I was eeeiged to lay down to myself, I should most cheerfully have ones more broken, as I have broken it this morning, if ever— as is very unlikely—in your day, or in mine, an occasion should again arise which called upon you and me, and the people of this country, to testify their sense of gratitude for the obli gations they have received front the late Dr. Birkbeck.— ( Cheers.) I speak from a knowledge of upwards of flea-and forty years of the late Dr. Birkbeck, and I bear testitnoscy to his talents, to his learning, to his worth, and to his constant steady, and strenuous devotion to all the best interests of mankind.—(Cheers.) He well knew--and his conduct was formed on the maxim that the noblest of ali pursuits is the pursuit of truth, and that the highest of all duties is the diffu sion of it among our fellow creatures,--(Cheers)—that human reason has no worthier, or more noble employment than its in sestigation, and that its propagation among mankind is the nly legitimate use and province of all human eloquence.— ( Cheers.) Nor let such observations as these be deemed trivial, because they are self-evident, and perhaps trite, when we re collect how many gifted men in all ages and countries have sinned against these rules—(Cheers)—and, suffering them selves to be led away by corrupt and sordid and selfish f elings, Or blinded by party prejudices, have perverted the faculties with which Providence has endowed them, to n Weld, and not guide their fellow creatures—(Cheers) — not pursue and propagate truth, but to devise errors in all their iorrns, from venial and slight mistake up to wilful, perverse, and pernicious delusions.—(Cheers.) When we recollect this, we nenst deem it, not a superfluous honour, nor unbecoming, that it is neither without its use, nor foreign from our duty to tr editate on such a life as that of Dr. Birkbeck's, and to profit by• such an example as he has left us.—( Cheers.) Now, it was the peculiar province of that excellent and useful man, and it was during the whole of his careeer the constant obje ct of his exertions, by all the means in his powesr and by the unremitting and successful application of his endowments, whether natural or acquired, to labour inces sande, on behalf of the working classes of this country.— ( Chet rs. ) The friend of peace, including foreign peace and domesvic tranquillity, the friend of edueation in all its branches, the promoter—l will not quarrel about a word, whether he was the foueider or originator, or the successful promoter—of these institutions by which education is bestowed, and which are calculated still further to bestow, the incal culable benefits of education on the working classes .of the community.—(Cheers.) He knew, as we know, that these working classes, whether they cultivate our fields, or work our manufactories, or drive our trade, are the very support and life of the prosperity of England—(Cheers)—that to their unrivalled skill, to their unfailing—l speak of the class at large —to all rules there are exceptions—to their unfailing and un eeviating submission to the laws, in the performance of their duty, to themseives and the country, that we owe whatever of prosperity this country has ever reached.—( Cheers. ) And, atti; ! it is a hard reflection we must make tha' as they are the cause of its prosperity, if ever in evil times adversity comes over her, by the hard necessity of our nature, by our lot in society which never can be otherwise, it follows tha , , those evils must fall on the working classes, that on them must mainly and severely press the sufferings which those na tural reverses of affairs give rise to. Then comes the greatest of all the praise which on these industrious and worthy and able men can be bestowed—that their conduct, their patience, their submission, their cheerful endurance of those distresses, almost makes us forget their other prodigious merits.—( Cheers.) To raise a monument to the memory of one who laboured so much for them, and who so well deserved their gratitude and ours, what can we do better than, instead of spending our money in vain trophies of marble and stone, which he himself would have been the very first to despise, and the last to deem an appro r priate tribute—that we should found some institution that may help to remove those obstacles that still stand in the way of the better education of our artisans? I say at once, as the Committee have, in my opinion, most wisely, judiciously, and I might say most happily sug gested, that they should found a professorship of the application of science to the arts. I believe it is known to most of those who hear me, that one very great difficulty which is found to stand in the way of Mechanics' Institutions in various parts of • the country, arises from the impossibility of lecturers.—( Hear, i hear.) It is inconceivable how small an amount of lecturing is ho be found, all over the country, how numerous so ever those enessitutions are.—(Hear, hear.) • In communication with that society, of which both my Noble Friend (Lord John Rus =ell) and myself are members—l mean the Society for the .Diffusion of Useful Knowledge. In communication with m e t Society you are aware there is formed another Central So efety for the purpose of promoting the, establishment and im provement of Meehanics' Institutions. Of that Society the late lamented Dr. Birkbeck was the President. In corre spondence with these are upwards of eOO of those valuable bodies, comprising 25,000 members, of whom, I rejoice to think, upwards of two-thirds are of the working classes ex clusively ; but the average number of lectures delivered to them is not above 1,200—1 think I,l9B—making not above six lectures, on an average, to each Institution in the course of the year. Now, it has occurred to my Noble Friend, who has well considered this subject, that the benefits to be derived from lecturing would be greatly increased if it were possible to establish such a professorship as the Committee has wisely recommended, and I hope and trust that this day's meeting will not end witnout an earnest _being given in its success of the certain formation of such a professorship. • This is an occasion on which I need hardly remind you all political contention is out of the question— (Cheers)—an occasion upon which the voice of party itself is hushed, whereof 1 proceed to give you examples. Among those benevolent individuals who have signified their desire to aid you in your present design is my _Noble Friend Lord John Russell.—(Loud and long-con tinued cheers.) I was going to say, of my Noble Friend " whom to name is to praise." But you have anticipated me. There are also Lord Dudley Stuart—(Cheers)—Mr. flume—(Cheers) —who I am happy to know is returned in the double sense of the word—Mr. Roebuck-( Cheers)—than whom I venture to say the working classes of this country neither have nor ever had a steadier or abler friend. There are other gentlemen all more or less varying in shades of poli tical party and opinions, but all agreeing heart and hand on • this occasion. —(Cheers.) I have it in command from his ...Royal Highness the Duke of Sussex to read to you his letter, with which I think really I cannot do better than v F e.upy the few remaining minutes during whi c h I am ec oout to address the present meeting.—( Cheers.) [The ble and Learned Lord then read the letter in which his Ito ) -al Highness stated his entire approval of the object for whit?: the meeting was convened,. and that he was only pre venteve attending by reason of the delicate state of his health ; also his detiire to contribute his mite towards giving effect to the reitoinixnendation of the Committee. The reading of the letter was followed by loud and protracted cheers. ] Lord Brougham proceeded to say—l have stated that no diffe rence nt party ought to interfere, and I ant now about to show you that no difference of political sentimero has inter. ered on this occasion.--I Cheers.) I have here a letter tram the Secretary of State for the Home Department, connected as, that department most appropriately is with those th ; e el that relate toj the working classes of the kingdom.— The Noble and Learned Lord here read the letter. It was .to tiee etffect, that he heartily concurred in the objects of the meeting, and to furthereit he would subscribe 101.] I have also ha' a request made to nie, and which I have great pleasure in'com rues iicating to the meeting, from my Noble Friend and late colleague, sthe President of the Board of Trade, who has a most arpropriete connexion with the day's business.—(Cheers.) 1... rd Relent desires that his name should be put down for ten guineas to this great work.—( Cheers.) The Lord Chief' Justice of they Queen's Bench, Lord Denman—( Great cheer ng)—has sent the same sum. —(Cheers. ) The late Attor ie-Geeeral, Sir Thome,: Wilde, has sent a sum of five guineas, and t present Attorney-General, Sir F. Pollock, has sent a similar sum.—(Cheers.) To which I have to ae . 'l, but no doubt others will be added, that of a forme: Attorney... General, and the late Lord Chan cellor os' Ireland, Lord Campbell, has authorised me to give the same sum ; and Lord Lyndhurst—(Cheers)— dc sires me to put his name down for the same sum.—(Cheers.) It remains only now for me to express the great gratification I have in finding men of all parties and shades of opinion joining in furthering this great and good deject. I have no manner of doubt, under the blessing of Divine .Providence, we shall suc ceed—( Cheers)—in the object we all have in view, not merely tuf reco ding our sentimenis of the high merits and great prat tical good actually done during the course of so many years by that mcst eminent and worthy individual, whose name brings us together this day, but to further the progress of that v ork by furthering the irnprov,ement of the working classes of the people.—( Great cheering.) Captain ACKXRLEY, from the body of the' Meeting, called mt, "Are you for Universal Suffrage, Lord'. Brougham?"— ( ea eat confusion and uproar, amid which ) Lord Bnotic 'tam rose, and after obtaining sil trice with some tie Iheulty, s dd—Sir, if you don't instantly cease shall cause Yogis to le removed.—(Great cheering.) e Secretary then read the following Report : . .61;oe. before you the result of our deliberations, we will said ° from discussing the various forms of testimonial w w. , h!e4l have b een su b m itt e d to us, confining ours e l ves t o th a t e have finally, almost unanimously, agreed to recommend as tle be r means of perpetuating the memory of Dr. Birkbeck's se. viees, i nd of m ar ki ng t h e grat i tu d e c f hi s contemporar i es f or those s ere , ices , " Beariek e, constantly in view this, the main object of our labours, e s . res o l ved at our first meeting. that whatever testi mottill shou t Ibe determined on, ought to be of a permanent char et ee a. >v I ought, if eossibl , toconnected with the ad s aecement of ' .knowledge among the p e le s In arc i ng esti this res o l ut i on we felt, that whilst we were uu be to deei Se mean, of affording cirecr. advantage to the ati era we he to find in all part: of the Kingdom, so it was ow duty to avoid any epylietatio ia to merely local pur poses of the prom stele e. f . a gener a , eentributet " The conside rations e • amongst has e led us to recom ne tha t a fund should be cod ete e by subscription for the, reseose of four ding a Proi;'ssership of machinery and manu factures in louden, to be called the De 1 44teli: Professorship. It will be the duty of the Professor to to aeh else Rtlements of maehinery, and the application of these to p sm‘sitl'arl erbibeihtinesti the const ruc ti on and operatiun of which h.. an teach to th e c l ass. He will also show the ap i ilicates'n of che mistry, and other branches 'of natural philoa , phy, to various manufacturing processes; and he will exhibit t hose processes by drawings and models, and by experiments. It would have been satisfactory to us, if we cc wield have Rig- Bested some ineems whereby t h e f un d w hi c h we should b e d evoted immediately to the ins reel fosshope to raise t classes of the peopl e , w h ose i n tellectual andof those improve ment Dr. Birkb ec k h as laboured to promote. x :rum r i e i tiling in this endeavour, we believe that our plan will inn lirect ly, and not very remote l y, tend materially tion of the workieig cl asses. It • to adv ance the educa will be the duty of the Pi pfessor him' rat ure netted with the London University College. He believed that the proceedings of that college werevery little known beyond its walls. That College had been established seventeen years ago, and he wanted to know what great man it had produced, or what great discovery it had led to either in , eience or in lite- He would even say that, in his opinion, no event had even so great a blow to the liberal a , pirations of the age as the .ailure of that college.—(Marks of dissent and interruption. ) lle knew nothing great or good to which it had contributed, if he night except the Reform Bill.—(Marks of dissent. ) But there was also a strong personal reason against founding a Ptofessorship in connection with the London University; for although Dr. Birkbeck had contributed liberally to that insti tution, about the 3etr 18.30 he withdrew from it, and he never afterwards took part in the management.---(Crie s of " No, nn !") About this period, or a little subsequent to it, Dr. 13irkheck expressed to him the very strongest opinion against the University. Upon these grounds he must dissent from the proposal of the Committee to establish a professorship i n connection with the London University. The respected Chair man had referred to the project of erecting a statue to the memory of Dr, Birkbeck in St. Paul's Cathedral. He would not have addressed that meeting had it not been that there were other alternatives by which they might attain the bject ; and he thought the plan of ereecting a s t a oe or tablet in St. Paul's preferable to that whi c h had been suggested by the Committee, There was, hovvever,azlother plan to which neither the noble Chairman nor the Committet s e had alluded, but which he thought far preferable to any that had lven suggested; namely, to establish itinerant professorships under the control of a body in whom the funds Lord Brougham should be vestcd_ f9 . r . that purpose. —(Cheers. ) self to have constant intercourse with manufacturers and their workmen ; and (observing thus the difficulties which the latter have to surmount in learning the principles of the Arts prac tised them) he may he inclined , as he will certa i n l y be most tit, to sugeiest f or eineevitee those difficulties. We would indeed ureic that the terms of th e Professors appointment direct his attention to this matter. It probable also that during the intervals of the College ion, the Professor will fi nd it his in t erest to lecture at In :etis t s utions in the country, where he will contribute to introduce a branch of teaching which has not perhaps hitherto sufficiently prevailed within them ; and we feel a strong hope that of the Students who will frequent the class which we propose to found, many will afterwards devcee themselves to popular instruction. By these means we believe that the Birkbeck Professorship will, at no distant period, largely promote the instruction of workmen, whether agricultural or manufacturing. A class of teachers will we hope be sent forth, who will carry into the various institutions of the country, the systematic instruction which they have obtained from the propossed chair ; nor need we doubt that, if the fee of the class is sufficiently low, school masters will frequent it in order to qualify themselves to impart that knowledge which, though it is d fl a post valuable that the future weeks - Dan can acquire, has nevertheless 'leen hitherto the most difficult to attain. We think that the chair which we recommend is most hicele to be efficient and perNaane4if attached to some existing and largely endowed institution for ,e4tecation ; and we therefore recommend that the Professorship ehell Ise established in Uni versity College, London. Although, ateeded4 to the system of elves Pellege, this class may be attended alosae-evn mere payment 44'4? fee, without involving any other expense, pit study which weete e eire to promote will (like all others) be 1)64 pursued in a place ere'seeee the sciences connected with it are taught. The Chemical teetteratories in University College, together with the large eelleetiens t feil i te Professor, and .ye.Y..ch it possesses of models au apparatus, will greatly a:'l the iabieneeee diminish the cost of establishing bed VuLiota t ! n i r sg u 5/ ) ,P i h r ' We have al,so reason to hope, that if means * . l " 6l ", e n e t' ee te'„ Y subscription for fannding and endowing the -sheep ' - '7, t r ee t e . ' those means may be augmented by a grant from the .: 11 funds, or from some of the endowments at its disposal, and m,, become a motive with friends of education to endow it mole largely or found Scholarships in connexiou with it, In pro. portion to the extent of the endowment will be the diminution of the fee. " We have also strongly felt that there can be no fitter place wherein to establish a Memorial of Dr. Birkbeck's services to mankind, than University College--an Institution in the foundation of which he bore a prominent part." Mr, HUME, M. P. then rose to move the first resolution, and was most enthusiastically received. He was not aware why the first resolution had been put into his hand, unless it was because he had been one of those who had earnestly re. quested the Noble-Chairman to deviate from the rule he had laid down of late years not to attend public meetings, but to sanction an Institution for the benefit of those classes to whose interest his whole life had been devoted.—(Cheers.) He con. curred in every sentence of the excellent speech of the Noble Lord in the Chair. The Resolution he had to propose was as follows— s " 1. It is the opinion of this meeting that upon the sound education of the great body of the people mainly depend, under Divine Providence, the stability and happiness o f nations ; and that Mechanics' Institutions have greatly contributed to that education by the direct /instruction and by the rational re creation which they afford to the working classes." Such was the resolution fee had to propose. He wouldnot de tain the meeting at any length because he did not consider it necessary to recommend such a plan to their notice ; but then he would say, that he never attended a public meeting at which he felt greater satisfaction as to the result, than the present— ( Cheers.) It was most gratifying to see men of all parties, when party ran so high, coming forward in support of so great and general an object,--an object confined to no class. Whatever class of politicians were in power, nothing was of such im portune as to raise the condition of the working classess. He was one of those who considered that it was as important that a Government should provide for the education of the people, as that it should provide for their physical wants by the erection of poor-houses. He had been ever anxious to for ward that great object, and he deeply deplored that it had not made greater progress. The working classes themselves were, he was glad to see, now pushing forward to point out the necessity of this object.—(Cheers.) He had known Dr. Birkbeck for many' years, not simply as the a.dvueate of Mechanics' Institutions, but as the friend of general education, when it was a question even among many well-meaning persons, if general education were a good or not. He had found Dr. Birkbeck, so long ago as 1811 or 1812, the earnest promoter of every plan for the general education of the working classes, pr. Birkbeck was himself one of the working classes. He had esessosl all that he possessed by his own labours, arol yet, unlike too many profes sional men, who kept aloof from all participation in any mea sures of a public nature lest it should affect their private interest, Dr. Birkbeck was ever ready to come forward pub licly and privately, in the most zealous manner, to pro mote that object. The present occasion was one of the utmost importance. They had lost Dr. Birk - beck, and what could be more fitting than to make that loss itself a means of continuing Dr. Birkbeck's labours, and ap pointing this Professorship. He thought that the Professorship should be appointed to University College, because he was aware of the labours of Dr. Birkbeck in founding University College. No man ever exhibited more zeal and energy in the pursuit of his own private interest, than Dr. Birkbeck bad ex hibited in promoting the foundation of University College. That institution was founded on the great principle of giving education to all, without any distinction of creed, tenet, pro fession, or country. He was aware that a difference of opinion had existed on the subject of endowing this Professorship, among the members of the Committee at their former meeting on this subject, but he trusted that now there would be no difference of opinion as to the propriety of continuing Dr. Birkbeck's labours by the foundation of a Professorship, which would carry down the name of Dr. Birk beck to ages yet to come, and would stimulate others to imitate his exertions.—( Cheers. ) He thought it would be a waste of money to erect a marble statue. The foundation of a Profes sorship would be a monument far more lasting, and if Dr. Birkbeck could give an opinion on the subject, he felt con vinced, from what he knew of Dr. Birkbeck, that he would say, " The promotion of tke education of mankind has ever been with me the primary object of my life, and nothing can be more gratifying to me than that you should take care to carry out th a t o bje c t."—(Ch eers .) He thought that by doing this they should be doing an honour to the country. —(Cheers.) He was aware that there were many persons who objected to endowments of any sort. He objected to many endowments, but he only obj e cted t o th em when they were abused ; and he trusted that in the appointment of this Professor the Committee would take care to lay down such rules as shonld prevent any abuse arising.--( Cheers.) On those grounds he cordially approved of the object of the present meeting, and was delighted to see the manner in which their Noble and Learned Chairman was supported, and he was re joiced to see this the more, because it would go forth to the world, that, however men might differ as to other things, still when the education of the working classes was concerned there was no difference of opinion, but that all parties were united in bearing testimony to the labours of Dr. Birkbeck in the manner which would have been most gratifying to Dr. Birkbeck himself, by continuing his services to mankind.--( Loud cheers. ) Mr. R. TAYLOR was glad to be permitted to second the motion. It had been his good fortune to be acquainted with Dr. Birkbeck, and to have co-operated with him and the Noble Lord in the foundation of University College. He had also witnessed the great zeal and uniting energy with which Dr. Birkbeck had laboured in founding the London Mecha nics' Institution, and in supporting and promoting its interests. None but those who had witnessed his labours could be aware of his unceasing exertions in behalf of that Institution. He superintended all the financial operations of the Institution. If any difference arose, his interference was always the means of restoring harmony. If lectures were wanted, Dr. Birkbeck was always ready. He devoted the greater part of the leisure of his very laborious life in promoting the welfare of that Institution. It was not only to the London Mechanics' Institution, but to the cause of the education of the people generally, that the talents and the labours of Dr. Birkbeck were ever devoted. His Lordship and many of the gentlemen present knew how actively his services were rendered to the University College. He might also advert to the assistance which Dr. Birkbeck rendered to that school of which his Lordship laid the first stone in the City of London, and which now num bered between 400 and 500 pupils. They could not express their regard for the memory of such a man in a way more honourable to him and more likely to be of permanent service to the cause to which he devoted his life, than by erecting sisal a Professorship as th a t men ti one d i n the resolu• lien. There had certainly been abuses in endowments ; but still endowments were part of the capital of the country. Many of the abuses alluded to had also, it should be remem bered, been removed of late years ; and many valuable institutions which had become almost utterly useless to the public at large, had been resuscitated. He trusted from the countenance which the impose.] of a fitting memorial to the memory of Dr. Birkbeck had that day received, that thepro jeet would be speedily accelerated. The Hon. Gentleman con cluded by seconding the resolution. Mr. HODGKINS said, that he felt he owed some apology to the meeting, and to his Lordship, for tresspassing on their attention. He would not detain them long, and he would confine himself strictly to the purposes for which they had as sembled. Lest he should be mistaken at the outset, he begged leave to say, that, however Intense might be the admiration of the gentlemen around him for the memory of Dr. Birkbeck, their admiration did not surpass his.—( Hear, hear.) It was because he was desirous of imprinting his admiration on the spirit of all time, that he rose on that occasion to make a suggestion rathe: adverse to the report which they had heard, although not adverse to the resolution which had been moved. He was decidedly adverse to the endowment of a Professorship, and still more decidedly adverse to the connexion of that Professorship with the London Univereity College. As he understood it, the Professorship was intended to promote knowledge among the humbler classes. Now it was pretty evident that tea college which was frequented exclusively by the wealthy and middle classes, th e labouring classes would never resort for instructi on . A s f ar a s he could judge of such Professorships they had contributed very little to the honour of those whose names they bore; and some of these were very little known beyond the walls of the seminary in which they were endowed. If they were, therefore, to establish such a Professorship as that proposed, it would completely fail, he thought, to honour, or even to commemorate the memory of Dr. Birkbeck. He might mention, as an example in point, the case of a Profes sorship in the University of Oxford, endowed by Mr. Vines; but he believed that the Vinerian Professorship would be almost wholly unknown to the world at large if it had not been mentioned by Blackstone in his commentaries, If the Professor were a clever one, the Professorship would be only known in connection with his name; and if he were an indolent or an incapable men, the foundation could neither confer honour nor utility of any kind. But if there were good reasons for not establishing a Professorship at all, there were besides, in his opinion, very solid and substantial reasons why such a Professorship, even if established, should not be con . had told them, and told them very truly, that there was a gr eat li on . H e di sa pp rov ed of endowments altogether. He would paucity of lecturer? for the Mechanics Institutions scatter e d rem i n d t h em t h a t the great object they had in view was the through the country. Now, surely the best means of removing impronement of toe minds cf the people, and if they worked means could b -' - . - f that evil was to establish ono or more itinerant profeesors, svh‘r Well for 10 or 15 year, , , they would then be able to se e r a ],,,lure ss'i!aul-l.iefishraent, l', iai - itever it mig:it be, , hould give lectures to the Mechanics' Institutions in genera l, rry weil a th en ,s e lves tvi,thout the :ti , sistaile,-; of professor:. a ii e C a appointedri ., in a t n ii , i i tt , - , h e eers. This t r p r ia s i r l ip h e e ri u nt s e n n b d i t l , :o n e di h n i g s i: h at e o l l 3 - I ,i e n v e ; fi is ts he c d f that some e eeeeert e re fto the erecting a statue in Ste Pa u l's, th oug h to emu , ari d w hi c e s th ey steroid en,lOA throughero :les- coantre a, lee. prefer even ex their r la t b h o e ur d s i . a statue in that great national temple was, in his opinion, prefer- A YOUNG ItIAN in the hotly of the meetino sad that he rec ( ti H on ea o r t , able, because more likely to honour his viruses, tpthp endowin g a trusted he should be trardoned if be trespassed for a moment professorship in the London University. It was to propose this on their indelgence, He was himself one who had bene pan 1 that he had risen to address the meeting. What he would Otte ( ' by th ese Mechanics' Institutions, to the establi s h men t saiget was, that they should refer the matter back to the of w hi c h D e. Birkbeck h a d mainly contributed. It appe are d nmsittee, with instructions to aeeertein the probable expense to him that the establishment l i k prossArship in the Univers of erecting a statue to the memory of De. liiekbeck in St. City College would clot be th e b est means of perpetuating the . . • Paul's cathedral, and also what would he the cost of establishing memory of Or.. Birabeek a mong t h e wor ki ng ?lasses.. And it itinerant professorships; and ? having ascertained this, ihe'Coms should be recelleeted that that was the object w.hiA l , the mee t, mittee should report again to a erthlip ,c eeting. iog had principally in view. In his i - i iiirBiies, tki,e estilvAsh-, The CHArattaN said, before he pa the re(Olutiert, iie hoped mem. stf itiuil i sS.t,?''' l Ailoil, tea hreelloeten suggested by •Mr. Hodgkin woniei h4ve the candour to listen to one or titai a gentlemen tt 9. ,at preceded' him, would much more words, inreferee:tee to his preposal. There need be no differ- effectua!ly contribute to th e pu rpose. H e b e li eved that lectures ence of opinion anteng them gpo s eethie matter. 'ir any persons at the London University would not be attended by the working proposed a statue el the Metropolis,working to a ; rofessorsl4, list Orate .e'llaecrilee for'a lien generally and to the llllO o f IrD-...., t Lny ~ ,, ,u l d 1 1 . • o , statue.—( Laughter. ) If any person preferte4 I li PO . - i tli3r t, PO 1 feseorship to a statue, let them subscribe for a professorship. tore inopo-c a. al arneO'dreent to the'resoltition , .—it Th.it in The poe did not at ;11 exclude the o th e r. Judging, however, • the opialeA ‘sl' 'Mi . Mitring,' the best raj( tar perpetuate the hi 43(4 co:: he bat.; heard speak on the subject, and by those i in rnory of Dr. Birkbeck among the'NVorking clauses is lee who had t4aideKsi tli i-. 11- sup iti; st4ippie tt i, ' ;;-t . e . ‘recl that there the establishment of Itinerant Leetirreshie's, would be every sinall' milisaiription for the edi, ~..oi#,,i eeieet. ! - seetei ORO p o ktet - ot ]roped" h e iniOt" a permitted, before would be—he would not say a very larger-i-li 'a edioltddraillis ptitiirt s t the ( question; to ekplain 'to the two gentlemen oho and competent one for the Professorship. The Crlat'quesinsii, had' jUst ‘spekeo; that it was a great mistake to suppose that then, was, as to the two kinds of Professorships. He quite th e app o i n t m ent of a professorship in the London ',July ee agree4 eetth Ny, Hedgkin, that if they had funds sufficient for ! sity, implied that it was to he a' seedsssetes, tat ti esSalai.Y, the porpeser, inner prOfesors!nps would be be and all cons- withoo,`,. rlepeiteiiies at alt on 1 , 114 f,hs'; SO l a td'itn'thle the'l6l2- • parisen better then' ee3Y'Gii CV . i . :tij 'Paoieisorshir ' lint tate t'Ssienrutd'esd tte . sleep hi' his' chair; and 'receive - his salary, Let was, the Conesseitteo, et's.ire ties 'Maisie' theirereptfre, had teithiml. drengihis lensiness,' they should' then be foteedi'e s o, al ! taken both proposals into there serice.'4 `erMsidefetioni . and it ahnstt inst6d ' of ' a professerst'4, Tiee - ee leutild ''''bier 'fees, , ,i, • - from their calculation, that 1- uti itmerant f i lroisiss vesee iesitforete, so el 'to'' eniMe ilia" woreing classes appeared fr f e..r , : • , • ~ sorship was established, taking the whole Mies" of ince ialq# . , tOa*Trq, and to , cr4le 41tctui.6 fie be better worth his at i Matiteitions 4ia a t 7,7031 d iequird his aid, it would amount to one , tendar.ce, for that which Was got for nothing, was often nothing • epusse OY i lectures for esei, ioet;oitinn every sixth Year.— 1 worth, and very little valued or p:ofited by, by those salee rz,.4 (Langhter.y Vhclotibtedl ; i lf`ilAy ciiiild atkird i4ty OF fifty c i e;sre 4 it, A reesonobie ereo t se . oe noel. Waniktl be attiehed itene7ant peefessroosb - ipa, t 4' w i folty b l e . ' 010 or ifs" titer; 1 t:r'llid Chair; hilt it ! wtitlid hot he independOnt tif liis own exer better than .7 t ablieli'dg a PrOfeirsorqiip 'at ' the piiiveqty Col- 1 tionS.' ' As'to the observation . respecting an itinerant lecture , lege.,( Pear. ) lie was afraid, hovever, toaf i t heee 'wai rip 1 silo, he was far from supposing that anything in the appoint ' ' en ' th - iro're - s— "- - ,t re e• d '. '' , tin the chief ' hope that po, t i, ;could be the case. ft aPPearedteiMm, there= l eee e, ei f , f t e at a ‘ ae,d e. e.l-1 X 11l VI.I . .r . , • fore, thlt *Yr c:;,!Ad ;fiord the professorship, whilst they could Workshops' ref iniclfrstrta RirMill'Atiddi,LLed t s; a:A' ItlneeheOtere not afford the itinerancy. Noes ' with met wouldered to the London It would be impossible to vi s it ' a ll the 111e'cifinics' Institutions of University, 4.e the head of thai'be'dy—,(ilore h is lordship was the country, and as they b ecame more numerous, it would be interrupted by a pee sim near the end 'of tile room, ',-;(-) :- a 4,; eome still more impossibl e . Hi s L or d s hip th en re ad the tempted to addrese the meting, and' coMplaided that' the imencternt, pacaoosirat the foundation of an itinerant Lecture- Chairman was out of order in doing O. Ater severalineffed- ship. - tual attempta to address .the meeting, he ! at last succeeded, ' Mr. TRacey asked if the original resolution wae eapable of through the interposition of the Chairman, in obtaioi.ag a all the modificat;ons his L or d s hi p - Wad alluded fog hearing, when he !Rid, OW hte game was V.Vaticites, and that i. ! ord Beget. ;dial had no hesition iii sayMg, that in his his only object then via* 49 Irni9o,isrP °- the Chairman Whether opinion the foendatiop of suc h a pro f essors hi p i n connec tion the resolution which was about .to e va c, yeaa e teT iutie n with the London University was perfectly compatible with, and proposing a professorship at the Widen PlaiVers i tty.?. so s iOht lead to, au itiner ant l ec t ures hi p t o th e ext e n t described. The CIiAtEmAN said, that there was no aPeteion w ateyer of Ile tvoteiri ga a little fUrther, and pledge himeele that it eheuld the kind. be so 4one: He pledged himself conunected with the Com- Mr.. , ~ as ~ lionotseN then proposed an amendment to the effect, mittee, with the etibecription, and University, that it the means that the Report be referred back to the Committee, with in- would afford it lectures should he given front time to time. structions to state whet would Ise the expense of erecting a Me. Tiraeeiv—Let the amendment be etrthddied in the re statue in St. Paul's, and also what would be the e4pense of es- solution. tablishing iteneant professorships, The CliApigA x—lt is part of the Report, and the report has , On the resolution and amendment being pett front tine C , bait', ketiP 4tiopfeq- rh o llctlp and Learned Lord then read from the former was carried. the Report the following extract — Lord J, RUSSELL then rose and said, after the eloquent ob- t'ft will he the 4ty of the Professor himself to have con servations that were made to you by the Chairman at the corn- slant iptercgtiFse wit - manUfaCtorerr and their workmeu ; and mencement of this nee,etiog, and after what you have heard (observing thus the iif t eultie whirl the' latter have to sur i from Mr. Hume and Mr, Teller, ie proppeing and seconding mount in leering the prineildes of the arts praeti-ed by thesis) the first resolution, I need not detain you !owe than a very he may be inclined, as he will certainly be inoitfit, to suggest few minutes. You will all agree, and I as happy to eee Oaf p t eens for removing those difficulties. Aire would' indeed urge #i the gentleman who moved the amendment emphatically ggree ,t i the tertm y the pryessor's appointment should direct his in bearing testimony to the merit of Dr. Birkbeck. The, attention to - this garret, resolution which I hype to move is, simply to record the sense "It is prOpable also that doring . the intervals of the College which this meeting entertains of those merits. It refers to the Session, the Professor will fired it . htS interest to lecture at Insti class which he instituted for mechanics at Glasgow as long ago Unions in the country, where he will contribute to introduce a as the year 1800. Before that time no doubt 'there were peep branch of teaching which has not perhaps hitherto sufficiently of great mechanical skill, some of mechanical genius, amen prevailed .iitop them ; and wp feel a strong hope that of the the working classes; but they had ,every difficulty tee contend etedenta WhO will frqqnt the class which wepropose tb found, with if they endeavoured to make that skill and that genius many will afterwards devote theinselVes to popular instruction." available by the addition of acquired knowledge.--( Hear, hear.) The CIJA I BMA N observed that he thought it better to add It was the merit of Dr, Ririsheck that in Glasgow he insti- the amendment to the resolution. It was to the effect, " That toted a class by which that science and that knowledge might during the interval of the Session he be required to lecture in be attained. Many years afterwards, when in Loden, he the eonotry," contributed, by his attention, by his labours ' and munifieentry ' The resolution, as amended, having been put and carried, •by his means, to the foundation of the Mechanics Institute in Ur, cP4l'Or the Secretary, read letters from Lord Laos this metropolis. Others have sought, in the mode of disposing downy and others i also a list of subscribers on the paesent oc of their fortune, either the enjoyments for themselves, or the casion. Among pie fames were those of—The Noble and means of raising that which should be a benefit in Learned Chairman;Lord Brougham, 5p gpineas i Lord Lans future to their family. Dr, Birkbeek was one of those who downc, 50/. ; Lord Campbell, 10/. ; Lord J. Russell, 101. ; Mr. wished that the fortune which he had honeurably acquired Ewart, Si, &c. should be the means of benefiting hii fellow-men at ollfutore Mr. MONCTON IthaNes, M.P., said he had been called upon times. And now, Gentlemen, agreeing as I have no doubt to peldrese the eeeetirig 'without premeditation, and certainly you Ate, jo recording your sense of the merits of Dr. Birkbeck, would apt have done to had he nqt felt a wish, a I will say boteerte word or two as to the nature of the m on o- protested Co nservative Menibk • of Parliameot, to come ment you should raise to his memory. It appears to me that then to sympathise with them.—(Cheers.) He was anxious to the extent of your frinete, you should endeavour to to show that th e su bj ec t o f th e meet i ng was common groun d , make that monu men t use f u l 'to mankind. There are on which men of all opinions might meet together, that when those who honourably to themselves, and gloriously the education of the working cla ss e s was concerne d, th e s ti c kl er • to the country to whi c h th ey b e l ong o b ta i n by their military for gle old constitution, and the man who was most anxious for and nasal services distinction at the moment, and fame for an entirely rev pee, were united. He would merely refer to ever. It is most useful to a country that there should be such the address of Sir Robert Peed on the opening of the taroworth men—it is useful that there should be these rewards and die- Institute as a proof of what he said.—( Cheers.) There was tinctions, and that they should receive the fame of marbles and no partizanship In the diffusion of knowledge.—(Cheers.) All monuments, and all the honours that attend on their merits. could join in the good work. Although it was a mournful But merits of the kind possessed by Dr. Birkbeck are pet re- occasion, yet h e t rus t e d th a t i t wou ld not b e without warded by immediate fame; they are unobtrusive i n th e i r °pee it; odeentogea He was not called upon to interfere ration, but they tend to the improvement of mankind in all ages; I in any discussion ihat 1144 biiiin mired F,l t 9 thp propriety pf they tend to the promotion of peace and the diffu s i on o f k now - I disposing of the f un d s that wou ld b e co ll ecte d , b u t he hoped ledge and to giving men a bettor knowledge of their duties, both that every gentleman would believe that the Committee, in the tothose immediately surrounding them, their fellow-countrymen, determination they had come to, with perfect honesty and good and to living in peace and brotherhood with fostejgo nations. will, had the wish to carry out what they believed would To such men we can raise no monument so fitting as ' that have been the wishes of Dr. Birkbeck.—(Cheers.) He was which shall continually, perpetually, and uninterruptedly useful certain that if the Committee had believed that, if any of the to mankind. I ask you, therefore, to agree to the resolution other excellent propositions which had briers submitted to the for founding a Professorship in University Colleg e . I ca ll on Meetin g , h a d b een more f eas ibl e t h an t h e one they had pro you to agree to that which is fitting to the character of him we posed, they would have had no hesitatien in adopting it.— are about to honour, and I trust that, a 3 his exertions (Cheers.) The Hon. Gentleman concluded by proposing the have tended to the general benefit of his couotryinen, fellowing resolution:— the subscription will be as widely diffused as possible, and that If Thet the thanks of the Meeting be presented to the Com the knowledge of what has passed here to-day will incite other mittee and to the Secretary fyr their labours hitherto ; that men of similar benevolence, of less confidence perhaps, of they be requested to confirm) their eacrtipris toy the attainment being able to achieve similar services, but still that of the proposed object, and that they have leave to add to their it will incite such men to believe ti{l}t honours and rewards will numbers, and appoint trustees." be given not only to those more captivating end exciting see- Mr. ROEBUCK, who was received with loud cheering, rose to vices which have too much, perhaps, though not tillii.Cspryedly, second the motion of his Hon. Friend. It was needless at that gained the applause manki n d, b u t that they will be given 'oleo time for him to enlarge upon th e b ene fi ts lik e l y to accrue from to those who ha..ye been engaged in th e wor k o f peace and bene- the pioposal which bad been made that day ; still more need volence, of universal improvement and universal charity, that less was it for him to add u hii hiimble triimite pf applause to the these men will likewise be handed down to future ages, and exertions of that great man whose memory there was obtain their reward in thegratitude and ypoeration of mankind. no mar. but must honour.—( Cries of " Hear, hear.") In Mr, Basta MONTAGUE moved the next resolotiqp, that— him they had suffered a great lo ss , a n d th ey were seeking "'Phis meeting desire to record their deep sense o f lee e' r to alleviate that loss by the adoption of that measure which trent services which Dr. Birkbeck has rendered to the educe- iney conceived would have been most gratifying to that great tion of the people by founding in 1800, and by teaching a class man, had •be yet liaOd•ee - (Pheers.) They had adopted the for mechanics at Glasgow, by his munificent aid in founding ! recommendation of the CoMmittee, and, in doing se, they had and his constant care in superintending the London Mechanics' done that which with Dr. Birkbeck had been the object of his Institution, and by his assistance in forming similar bodies i whole life—thee had contributed. to the diffusion of knowledge throughout the kingdom." through the country.—(Cheers.) He would not live in mar- He stated that the late Dr. Birkbeck originally belonged to , ble PF monUmfntal brass — but he would live in the circulati on the Society of Friends ; he' eulogised the system of education !of knowledge , -and he Mild not die while knowledge remai ne d, prevailing among that respected body, and after passing a , It had been said that the Professor they were about to endow high eulogium on the personal character of Dr. Birkbeck, would swallow up the memory of him they desired to corime referred to the importance and success of his labours. morate. Not so.—(Cheers.) No man would return from All that was required of them was the grateful expression of hearing those lectures but he would call to mind whq it was their respect for the memory of the man who had benefited who had drat put in motion that engine, the benefits derived mankind by the establishment of Mechanics' Institutions , from which he had just Participated.— (Cheers. ) They were A person in the lower part of the room, wheise name we about to erect a living monument to him—(Cheers)—they understood to be WATRiers, said, amid considerablinoiee and were about to make it perpetual, continuous, ever active, and, confusion, that the resolution ought to be placed in the hands like himself, ever benotilepot. The committee hod adopted a of a person who had shown practical devotion to the opinions of plan which, while it would commemorate the memory of Dr. Birkbeck.—( Cries of " Turn him out," and much uproar.) Dr. Birkbeck in the manner that would have been most pleas- The CHAIRMAN saiu he did not think the gentleman was out ing to himself, would at the same time confer great benefit on of order in speaking to the resolution. But he would mit it to mankind, and excite others to follow his noble example.— hio good sense and feeling whether they ought not to avoid all (Cheers.) In erecting a monument to the memory of such a unnecessary allusion to political matters. Let them reserve man, it was not so deOrahle to erect a marble tomb that might them for another occasion, , be beautiful to look at, as to endeavour tea promote the good of Some further interruption th en t oo k p l ace, b ut a f ter a few makirid, as he had done, and to inc i te others to the adOetion words from the Noble Chairman order was restored, and the •of a similar line of virtuous conduct. For these reasons' he resolution was put and carried unan i mous l y. approve d of the d ec i s i on of the Committee, arid he cordially Lord DUDLEY STUART said that when he heard the pre? • soconded the resolution of his Hon Friend, sent meeting was to be held he did not for a moment hesitate The Noble 13hairreers here left the meeting, amidst the most on determining to att e nd it, b ecause h e was and must ent h us i ast i c demonstrat i on , of applause. ever be most anxious to do every thing thaat was ! Lord J. RUSSELL having then taken the chair, in his power, little though that might be, to certify i Mr. HILL, Queen's Counsellor, moved the thanks of the veneration for the memory of the late Dr. Birkbeck, He meeting to the Noble and Learned Lord who had presided ever ( Lord S.) had had the honour of being well acquainted with their proceedings op that day. He believed there was no one that deeply-lamented gentleman, and had been a great admire r to whose courifenence and assistance Dr. Birkbeck was so ,)f his virtues, both public and private. He ho noure d t h e man m uc h 'i n d e bt e d i n th e l a b ours of his life as to the Noble who had p asse d hi s w h o l e life in devoting himself to the ser- and Learned Lord, The Hon. and Learned Gentleman then vice, not only of his country, but also of mankind in general, i moved the resolution, as follows :—" 'I hat the thanks of the Dr. Birkbeck had been mentioned to them to-day in eloquent meeting be given to Lord Brougham for his attendance this terms, as the friend of all mankind, and particularly of the day, and fop the great services whip!' he had rendered towards of the working classe s . I t was to their advantage he had especially the education ' people. s. ... .devoted all the energies and powers of his brilliant understanding. r. C-VI 1 C. BAINES second the resolution. Dr. Birkbeck might indeed be said to be an ornament not only The resolutions - then . E were put and unanimously carried. to his country, but the world and age in which he lived - . . The S e sifter, informing the meeting that the Others had celebrated his praises, and the present meeting public woVI b r e AßY "de . acquainted, by aivertisement, with the was a proud testimony to his merits, and the proof of the ye- places where sills: made mtg. t be paid, read a further list rieration in which his memory was held by his countrymen.— of contributions which he had received during the day• (Cheers.) It needed not, therefore, th e f ee bl e wor d s o f one The separated. meeting then like himself to pronounce a panegyric upon him.—(Cheers. ) All knew his general character well. They had all witnessed his general philanthrophy and his important lairours.—(Loud cheering.) There was one proof which Dr. Birkbeck gave of his labours in an eminent degree, to which he would advert. It was a subject that first gave him the opportunity of becoming acquainted with Dr. Birkbeck, and which bound him to him afterwards, during the whole of his life, in ties of the greatest friendship. Dr. Birkbeck was the friend of all mankind of the working classes, he was the most enthusiastic friend, and he was the friend to the cause of Poland.-(Cheers)—which with all his intelligence he never would have been had he considered that cause the cause of the aristocracy, and not the working classes. —(Cheers.) The resolution which had been put into his hand went to the principle and adoption of the Report of the Committee, that subject he might be excused from arguing now, as it had been discussed a short time ago. The Noble Lord concluded by moving the following resolution : " This meeting approve and adopt the Report of the Com mittee appointed on the 3d of August last ; and are of opinion that the most fitting method of testifying the public gratitude to Dr. Birkbeck is by founding, in University College, London, a Professorship of Machinery and Manufactures, including the epplication of Chemistry and other branches of Natural Phi losophy to the Arts, and that a subscription be commenced for this purpose." Mr. DILLON seconded the resolution. He agreed with the remarks made by the Learned and Noble Chairman on the subject of the plan recommended by the Committee to this meeting. In the present instance, if they could' not do all they would, they must do all they could.—( Cheers.) The monument about to be erected to Dr. Birkbeck ap peared to him to be peculiarly appropriate; or, if they would seek another monument to Dr. Birkbeck, he would ask them to look around.—( Cheers.) He would ask them to look at the chairman, and those by whom he was sur rounded, and at that great meeting.—(Cheers)—brought to gether, as it was, to do justice to a man for endeavouring to promote the cause of education, and the welfare of the working classes of society.—(Cheers.) To such a man, a more appro priate monument could not be raised than that proposed by the Committee. They were not able to do all they might wish for the benefit of their fellow-countryman, they could not prevent poverty, and distress, and privation, but they might much mi tigate it by diffusing•knowledge.—(Cheers. ) 'the best mode of promoting the greatest happiness to the greatest number, was to promote knowledge. When they had established the professorship in question, he trusted that every professor would endeavour to exceed Dr. Birkbeck in his usefulness.—(Cheers. ) Mr. Focco, who spoke from the body of ;the Hall, and who was at times inaudible, said that the noble Lord in the chair, had not been made aware of the proceeding of a meeting which had previously been held on this subject, with which he ought to have been made acquainted. At that public meeting, which had been held on the 3d of August, at the London Mechanics Institution, on the subject of founding the Professorship had been debated, and he was sorry that the Committee had not called those before them who on that occasion he differed from them in opinion. O n t h at occasion the propriety of founding a Lectureship on moral duties was suggested, and he felt con vinced that th at would b e a preferable plan. Dr. Birkbeck, in allusion to a Professorship of machinery, he told a o c f mery, him that he did not know any one capable in filling such a Professorship; b in finding a lecturer on moral duties he thought they would have better success. A working man ex hausted by his day's toil would oot go to listen to lectures on machinery, but the working man would go to listen to a course 4 f lectures on moral duties as a recreation. He hoped the CoMmittee would allow of some modification of their proposi- THE;' ROETIATIVIPTON MURDER. BOW-STREET.-(THLS DAY.) FINAL EXAMINATION OF MOLLY GOOD AND RICHARD GAMBLE, (Continued from our Afternoon Edition.) John Good examined—l live at No. 4, Orchard row Creek, Deptford, and am a bl ac k am i t h. I k now Daniel Good. I saw him on Saturday at Newgate. I know the female prisoner at the bar. Good and she came to my house about seven o'clock in the evening of the 7th of April. He told me that he was a relation of mine, and had seen me twenty-two years ago, and though he did not know me, he had heard of me. I do not recollect that I ever saw him before. He told me in her presence that he had come from Holland, where he had been with some horses for some gentlemen, had been shipwreck, d, and had lost all his things, except the clothes he then wore. They both remained at my house that night, and went away together . the next morning, after breakfast. I saw. Daniel Good next an Saturday, about twelve o'clock, when he came alone, and remained there all the afternoon and during the night. At nine o'clock on Sunday morning he went away. I heard the murde r publicly proclaimed in the street on Satur day, the 9th, when he and I and my mistress went to market. Cross-exantined—Good stopped with me all the night, after I heard the murder proclaimed in the street. I supped with him. Wheni he said he knew me, and was a relation, he did Lot mention any part of Ireland. I knew the woman be fore. I never recollect to have seen him and the woman to gether before. Hannah Good—l am the wife of the last witness. I know the female prisoner; at least I only saw her once, and that was when she came to my place with Daniel Good on the 7th of April. 1 saw Good at Newgate on Saturday last. They called on me on the 7th, remained there all night, and break fasted with us next morning. When they went away, I went with them to the railway station at Deptford; she went by the train to London, and he returned with me to my own house, where he stayed till the evening of that day. He did not stay at home all day ; he went in and out. lie bought some clothes on that eay about eleven o'clock. He showed them to me. They eonsist,d of a jacket and trousers of fustian, a black cloth waistcoat, and a pair of stockings. He changed his clothes there, and put these on. In the evening he left our house, and I walked part of the way with him on the road to London. We had two pints ot freer together on the way. On Saturday he returned in the fustian dress, and a hod with him. By Mr. Ilar.L—The female prisoner wrs not present when Good bought the clothes and changed them. Cross.examined—At nine o'clock on Sunday morning he left my house and took his things away with him, and I have not seen him since till last Saturday. Cross-examined—l heard that one Daniel Good was wanted for a murder , but I never imagined that he was th e man. O tt Saturday, in the afternoon, I heard of a murder, and in the evening I heard men calling it about the streets; Good was with me at the time, carrying my basket. Good returned with me, and we supped together. We did not say one word about the murder on that ii;ght, in conversation. Mary Good left my house about ten o'clock on Friday morning. Re-examined— When we were in the sheets, and heard the proclamation, I said it was curious that his name should be Daniel Good. Good smiled, and said, " Yes, it was strange, but there were plenty of that name. John Neil, am the son of John and Catherine Neil, and live at Greenbank, Tooley-street. I know Dame] Good, and I saw him on Saturday at Newgate. He was at. my father's house on Friday evening, the Bth of April,. and I saw him there. I went with him somewhere. Ile went into an alley, and told me to knock at a door and tell Molly Good that he wanted her. I afterwards saw the female prisoner. 1 knocked at the door and asked for Mrs. 'Good. Good had before told me if a stranger came to the door, not to tell her that he was t here, but- to ask for some oranges. The woman who opened the door called Mrs. Good, and she came out; the woman at the bar is the same person. I told her that her husband wanted her ; she then pinched me on the wrist. By Mr. HALL—The woman who opened the door was be hind us when I told her this. Cross-examin e d—Sh e th en as k ed me where he was. I pointed out. to her where he was. She went to him hit ,bin the back, bu t t h not spe a k to him. He ran away and she went back to the house. He went to another street and I followed him. He then told me to go to her again, and say that I wanted her. I went, but there was a erewd roitoci the door, and I did not tell her what he sa she catied at the house again in the evening. - 111 :9 Alt% 1 . 14,74.--It was dark when I went to Molly Good's he,use t Voliieta4ar. , b eant Thornton ex am i ne d —l watahed the house where Molly Good lived ; it was in Flower and Dsan-street. The prisoner Gamble -lived at No 9, Gray's Inn-lane. I saw gam* go, into. Molly Good's lodgings on ''s'ssekday s the 12th of this month, about e,ieleclt. the day ;: he rema i ne d t h ere about an hely% I.aW, 1 04 1 lieSiTo the house, and saw Mary' GCed follow sAartly after. She was in com- PallY,'w,Oth Motl 1 0: female. I f o ll owe d t h em ; they sage after , jeiaiedieGamble in Bishop sga t e - street ; they turned down Li6rplool-street, and I troced them together till the evening t f that day. I saw the two prisoners rt.‘turn to Mary Good's lodgings about 7 o'clock iq the evening. I saw Gamble leave between ; asad tae had a bundle with him then tied up i 4 . „ i t andaerehief. He h a d no b undle with him Wain he went into the . House. He carried, the bilndle to Tindal Buildings. On Thursday the Aith /saw him leave Tindal Buildings, and followed hip Mary Good's. I saw him leave h er h ouse shortly alter /1, however, on the same night. Previous to thatl . saw the two prisoners leave the George kkca Gtif in Brick-lane together. On Saturday the lah I readhed Gamble's lodgings. Inspector Pearce apc9iel panied me in the search. He lodged in the second floor front room. The prisoner was not present a7hr.,n we began the search. There were four beds "IA the room, and on the floor funder Op 14.0 pointed auf . hy the landlady as being his, o the tAr'o gowns v n ow pro d uce d . Gamble aftarewarde cadre ,he was asked which bed he slept in, end lae.peinted to the one under which we h a d found th i e geprta. lie was asked if he bad any propdrty, . and he, said, '.' None,"- Mr. Pearce has a boa with itetnr slilfta a,nd sligs Whiela he found at ' the lodgings. , Mr. I - Ulla—When he said he had an property, what was' the quastiop which you lint to hint 3 • Witness. —lt was whether he had any property aboUt the bed, and he laid " None." Mr. Pearce then produced the gowns, and he said they had been given him by a friend. Examination continued—On the next day I searched Maiy Good's lodgings, and found these pieces of silk (blue arid black), and this pillow-case wrapped upend laid on the sacking between two beds. I also found a black ha g un d er t h e b o l ster, con taining a_ parse an d a pair of wits.. There MIS 3s. 10d, in the purse. I else found three table napkins, a pair of stockings, a table-nloth, two knives and forks l a pair of candlesticks, a decanter, and some china. By Mr, Itaai„--There were no other persons sleeping in this 'roam beside Mary Good. I cannot tell whether Gamble has been in the habit of sleeping and cohabiting with Mary Good. Witness—l should add that there was another person slept ih the same bed with Gamble, Gamble-4 think, Sir, there wi Ibe plenty of evidence that I have not ce,ialsited with this w oman , Mr; Fliiu.—You will have an opportunity of making your 'statament . by-and-bye i if you have any questions to put you can de, o, Gamble—No, Sir, I have no questions. Mrs. Jane Clarke, who was examined at the time whisn Good was brought up here, and who midge at No, 18, South-street, Manchester -square, tan her oath, stated that she d belie - lied the "-Vile gewas ,s which the last wit ness foun at G t icahle,'a lo d gings, fb have been the property of deceased. The deceased used to speak to me of Good as her husband. This piece of blue silk I identify as being part of that with which the bonnet in which the deceased was last seen was covered. Cross-examiceds—l cannel' tell whether the deceased and Good were Married. vim not very much in the deceased's con fidence.' 'I never saw her with a ring on during the three years that I knew her. That struck me as being rather singular. I thought it appeared as if she were a kept woman rather than a wife, but she always behaved herself very properly. By W. Hall—l do rot recellect seeing'Molly Good and the deceased together about the time the blue bonnet was made. - Nicholas Pearce examined—l am an Inspector of the A division ; on the evening of 'Saturday, the 16th of April, I went to Gamble's lodgings, situate 2 Tindal-buildings, Gray's Inn lane. I knew Gamble before, and had seen the female prisoner before on two o r three aeseasians, I first sa w G am bl e on Monday the 11th," coming out of the lodgings , of the female prisoner about five o'clock in the evening. I followed him to Aldgate, and on to Green -court, T oo l e y- s t ree t, an d then to 'Tinda l-buildings, On the next day I saw the two prisoners together in Ffishopsgate-street, and near tha Catholic chapel in Moorfields, and afterwards qn the same day in Flower and Dean-street, Rear the George Guy public-house walki ng . I was at the female prisoner's lodgings about one o'clock in the I morning of the 14th. I heard a female voice say to Molly, " Why don't he come forward? there's 150/. reward for him , he is sure to be taken." The voice went on to say—" Why don't he put a rope viauvid his neck, and put a stone to it, and not disgrace his country ?" The female priserier replied, I' He Us more pluck than that. I)an is'ihe'dirling'of my heart; she was a stinking whore and a stinking bitch." On the 16th I went to Gamble's lodgings, soon after nine o'clock in the evening. I saw Gamble in Gray's Inn-lane, and asked him his name. He said, " What's the odds to you?" I told him to come into the square, and I would speak to him ; and that I was an officer. I asked him if hp knew Daniel tiood, the man charged with murder? He said he did, but he had not seen him (I think he said) for eight or nine _years. Prisoner—Fourteen, Sir. Examination continued—l asked him if he knew Good's wife, and he said he did. I asked where she reaideal, e t ne he said, Flowe r an d D ean - s t reet . T o the hest a my belief he tpnti,PPFd the nwher.. I asked if he had seen h er l ate l y , h e said, Once, and that was last week. I asked where he lived, and he said, 2, Tindal's-buildings. I searched him and found two keys in one pocket, and a sovereign and a half in his watch-rocket. I asked him if he had received a parcel or anything from Good's wife lately, groii he iaid he had not, This was jtist hefore searched him. I thel left in Marge tir another constable, and went to No. 2, Tindls - builolllgsr wilere I was informed that he did live there, returned to Gamble, and took him back with me ; he showed me a box on the ground-floor, which he said was his. 1 gave him the light, and we went up stairs - to the second floor front room, where there were three or four Inds. I asked him which was his, and he pointed oat the one on the left, nearest tq the wall. I asked if he occupied all the bed, and he said, "No, there was some one slept with him, and the man was sent for and came to the room. I asked him if he had any property about the bed? He said " No." Police constable 'Thornton then began to search the bed, and in doing so, he feud thethree gowns produced rolled up together very tight, I asked Gamble to whom they helaogfdt and hp saathey were his. I asked him how he came by them, and he said that they were given to him. I asked him by whom, and he said " a friend." I said " What friend ?" and he said " a female." I said " Who is the female? " and he said, " Does that ake any difference? " I then sent him Us the etatOsboese. I took the box which I sa down stairs to station-house, and 'with this lies , aliened tt . ie 'riv e naale prisoner's present*. tie first thing took Oqt wag 'this shirt, I asked him if it was his, and' he said" Ves;" I as ked if it was mar k e d . H e fir it said " and then " No:' It is marked in ink, "S. Perry. A then took out another shirt, marked similarly. This, he said, was his also. He said it was given to hind by the same person. I said " You've n o t teld we vho, the per son was, " and he said "Marx G0,0d,". Gqod was not present thee. He seid, the,m in theWl:idle." I went to the how e of the female prisoner at eleven o'clo c k th e same eight, and asked her if she knew a person of the name of Rick of Rickard Gamble, and she said she did not ; she hail never heard of such a person. I then sent her to the gtetien. house. • Cross-examined—l went to Ary Good'o, but made no search there, I.7Flr t , 1 - enu Spiee examined—l live at No. la, Dtike-street, Crosvenor-square, and am a chemist and druggist-, I hail an assistant in April last, named Soltylian perfy. I knew Mrs. Jane Good, the deceised t She used to wash for me and my assistant Perry. I have seen these shirts be fore, and I recognise his handwriting upon them. I am sure they are his. The deceased washed for me . up to the day of her death. Mr. Parry is now in Cornwall. Stephen Purdagan, D 16, re-called—l reached the female prisoner's lodgings on Friday the Bth. I found these bundles 'there; they centain a gown and two small work-bones, I found them' in the corner of the room, Daniel Gond, jnn., was re-called ; and identified the two worlc,boxes as liaviN ?Pa in the possession of the deceased. He had seen them every d a y up to Monday the 4th o f April— ( whilst' examining the contents of one of the boxes, the little fenow discovered his knife, and immediately taking it up, be exclaimed, " This is my k n if e , pl ease, Sir, may; lAye' it?" Mr. Hall said it had better nit he taken away. ' Mary Ann Grays o n miamined—l 3m 416 wife of Th omas Grayson and ledge in the sanie hoUse with the female prisoner. My husband is a silk dyer. I saw Good in Islovgate oil Sgtur. uay last. I saw the same mars at Qood's lodgings, about a quarter past seven on ThArscity morning, 7th April. On Monday the I Ith, I saw Gamble there for the first time, about the middle of the day ; he stayed some time and went to her rcom. I do not know what became of him afterwards. He was there again the next day ; he called about two o'clock and went up into her room. I saw him shake hands with her ; he stayed some hours, add then went out together. The last times! saw him there was on Thurs day morning, the 14th. He went up to her room then, and stopped more than an hour. They then went out and re turned together, and he did not leave b e f ore e l even o ' c l oc k . I live in the a dloing room to Mrs. Good's. Cross.exarefned—l have lived at the place five eears, and I believe Molly Good lived there mady years before I went there. .1 never saw Daniel Good there before the the time I have al luded to, all the while I lived there. I think I must have seen him if he came there. I have often heard her speak about her husband Leing away. Gamble—You said on your oath that you have lived in this house for five years. Did you ever see me there before 11th April? Witness—.No, I did not. Gamble—lf I had been in the habit of going thore, would you have seen me ? Witness—Most likely if you bad been in the habit of going there, I should have seen you. Edward Pritchard examined—l live at 3, Essex-place, Boston. I am a bedstead maker. I know the two pri soners. I have followed them about lately. I saw the on Thursday, 14th inst. at the George and Guy, public-house, Brick Lane. Thy drank there together. I wes close to them. I heard them converse together. Mrs. Good said, as near as I can recollect, "Poor Dan, he's afraid he will be taken, but he'll keep out of the way as long as he can." Gamble said, " hold your tongue, leave it to me, and he'll never be taken." They came out of the public-house, and I went out after them. Alice 1 Lackster examined—l am bar-maid at the George and Guy public-house, Brick-lane Spitalfields. I know th e female prisoner; she came to our house about two o'clock on Friday, the Bth of this month ; she asked me to take care of two duplicates, I said I would, and she gave them to me, and went away instantly. I saw her three or four days afterwards, and she asked me if I knew what I had taken, and I said yes; she said "Do not say anything about it." I have given them to Inspector Pearce. Mr. Maulo—l must now go back, Sir, to the history of Sas ah Butcher receiving this property, whiBh 1 could not carry on before in consequence of the absence of Parry, the con stable. Susan Butcher examined—On Wednesday, 6th April, Daniel Good called at my father's house, aed gave me. a blue bonnet, a goWn, a shawl, and handkerchief, a fur tippet, a pair of gloves, and a pair of boots, now produced. On the foliowing day I delivered all of them to Sergeant Parry. Police Sergeant Parry, BR, examined—l received the articles enumerated by the last witness from her on Thursday, 7th April. THE SUN, LONDON, MONDAY EVENING APRIL 2a, 1842. MPERIAL PA ITLIAMENT. (THIS EVENING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. Their Lordships' met at fiva o'clock. ADMINISTRATIO-N OF OATHS. Lord DENMAN presented a great number of peti tions from vallokis, parts a Scotland and England, pray ing that ilwoos ilaving conscientious scruples against the O L kip.g of oaths should be heard upon their affirma tion in Courts of Justice. EDUCATION IN IRELAND, The Earl of WICKLOW presented petitions from various parts of IrelaA irt favour of the Church Edu cation Society. SiroilaTtf,etltions were presented by the Earls of CHAR LEvaix and MOUNTCASHEL. PRESBYTERIAN MARRIAGES. Lord CAMERELL, in the absence oS the Marquis of Neadalbane presented a petition from Carthness, pray ing that caution should be used in altering the laws of marriage a it affected Presbyterians. COLLEGE OF -MAYNOOM The Earl of WIFCHELSEA prgseatect a petition from a place in Suffolk againq the grant to the College of Maynooth. RATING Or SMALL TENANTS. The Noble Earl presented a petition from the Guardians and others of the Union of Coiling. bourn, praying that the landlords of cottages should be rated for the same to the Poor Rates, instead of leaving it to the parish to get the contribution from the poor inhabitants as thex• could. S 1 fl PLIES (IREL4.ND) BILL Thsk P4.ke of WELLINGTON in moving the. thin?, reading of the Irish Spirit Duties Bill said, •Viiat i from the inquiries he had made he wag *atisP e d ' that the Bill would not increase illicit di,stl'ation, Th e Noble Duke was ti uderstood to say that he would post pone for the present the consideration of the clauses relatirld t,cl Oc (*whack upon spirits impraitd from - Scotland.. Lord MONYAGUE believed that:4l'llth distillation was rapidly on the increase, rqq,uiring, to one county, (Donegal,) two-thirds of the police force to check it ; and that increase would so cad over the I v - hole of Irel an d if any further eneoar r agement were give z . The PP? of. WICKLOW Woi glad to learn that it was the intention of the l`Zolde Duke to introduce his measure respecting- malt, in anothe r bill . The Noble Earl saw the danger to which the noble Earl opposite (Lord Illontegle) had allnded, but he hoped, however, that the assurances given to the noble Duke would be reclaimed. The Marquis of CLANRIBADE felt the greatest and the deepest regret that fhe Government were going to risk an encouragement to the revival of illioit distillation in Ireland; which, if once called into activity, would re quire an army to put Lord CLONCIARY sajd, that the produce of the in creased tax would be but a poor compensation for the evils which it would occasion by encouraging illicit dis tillalion. The Bill was then read a third time and passed. i a EDUCAT/OR (IRELAND). The Marctu. o' LONDONDERRY presented peti , 4(1114 from places in the county of Down, in favour of the Church Education Society. IMPORTATION OF CATTLE.' The Earl of ROSEBERRY presented a petition from Kent against that part of the Tariff which relates to the importation of cattle.: THE QUEEN'S PRISONS' BILL. On the reading of the Order of the Day for the Committee on the qtteent. Prisons' Bill, The Earl of DEN ON presented a petition, from seve ral peraana confined in the Queen's Bench and Fleet Prisons, complaining that the Bill would deprive them of the indulgence of the Rules which they now enjoyed. Lord CAMPBELL thought it was desirable to continue the indulgence of the rules ; but would not move any amendment to the clauses on this subject. Lord WHARNCLIFFE detbuded the rules. He said that the persons who took advantages of those were enabled to defy their creditors, and to refuse a settle ment of their affairs. It should be remembered that these persons could obtain their liberty if they pleased, and the rules-only encouraged them to continue in prison, and put off the payment of their debts. Lord DUNCANNON considered the rules a very great excuse with the exception of the day rules, which certainly did sometimes enable a prisoner to bring about a more speedy settlement of his affairs. The Bill then went through Committee, and was or dered to be printed. DISSENTERS' AFFIRMATION. Lord DENMAN presented a petition from a Baptist congregation in Dunfermline, in favour of the Bill to i enable those who have conscientious objeotions to take an oath to be given on affirmation. CORN LAWS.—THE TARIFF. Earl STANHOPE presented a petition from a place in Cambridge, against the proposed alteration of the Corti-laws, and against the new Tariff. The Noble Earl also presented a petition from a gentleman named William Roberts, the inventor of an ingenious and va luable discovery in anatomical matters, complaining of a refusal, on the part of the Commissioners upzainted in February, 1840, by. the Secretary of State tr'r the Home Deprrtment, for the purpose of investigating the working of the Anatomy Act, to examine him upon the abuses of that Act ; and praying that a Committee might be appointed to take intoconsideration the serious and permanent importance of the petitioner's allegations, and that an opportunity might be afforded him of making a statement on this subject, and supporting it by the examination of witnesSes. The Marquis of NORMANDY not having had notice of the Noble Earl's intention to present the petition, or to make the observations which had fallen from him, was not prepaaed to answer them, He deprecatad themischiefs which were occasioned by raising unfounded prejudices in the minds of the people:(Hear, hear.) He admitted that eery care should be taken to respect the feelings of the poor ; but he thought at the same time, Mary Anne Clarke re-called—This bonnet belonged to Mrs. Jane Good; lam sure of it, because I made it myself. I have seen the deceased wear it very often, every Sunday—this gown I believe to have belonged to the deccwd. I have seen her wear one of the same make, colours, and pattern. Mr. HALL—Has any one looked into the box of Jane Jones, alias Good, to see whit clothes were there? Witness-- The wearing apparel i 9 all taken away, I believe, Sir. At Mr. HALL'S request ? Inspector Pearce recalled, and he stated, last Tuesday I saw two duplicates from Alice Hackstone ; I delivered them to Sergeant Stephens on the following day, and told him to re desm the property, which he did. Police Sergeant Stephens A, 13—I received two duplicates on the 20th inst. in the name of William Stanley, from Mr. Pearce. I went to Mr. Soames, in Brick-lane, and redeemed the property on the same day and left the duplicate's - Mr. Maule—That's my case, Sir. Mr. Pelham—l wish to know how you propose to deal with this case, sir? If the deceased were the wife of Good, the property would be his, and it would be no felony on the part of the prisoner to receive it ; and the female prisoner cannot be indicted as a re ceiver. If she was not his wife, and he stole the things, and gave them to the female prisoner, then she cannot be indicted as a receiver. Then if the female prisoner be his wife, she cannot be indicted for receiving or harbouring him after the fact, supposing him to be guilty thereof. Those are the difficulties, and it rests with the Court to say how far they are guilty, and of what offence. Mr. HALL—How do you propose, Mr. Mettle, that this case should be dealt with ? _ _ Mv, Maule—l must submit to you, Sir, that there is abun dant evidence to prove that these persons are accessories after fact, in harbouring and comforting him after the felony. There is no evidence that either the female prisoner or the deceased was the wife of Daniel Gnod. They very likely both of them cohabited with him. The evidence is rather against the female prisov,er being his wife, for it was known that he never went there tiil very lately. Mr. HALL—You Reed not mind that. I wish to hear in whar way you propose to commit them. Mr. MAtlt,k,, ft appears to me, Sir, from the evidence, that they hared, and assisted, and aided him, knowing him to havq committed the felony. Mr. HALL.--There is but one conversation between them you have. 1 . Mr. AL:tux—There is one witness which heard a conver sattou between the female prisoner and another woman, which rer gored that she was aware of it ; an d t h e conversat i on between the two prisoners at the George and Guy, shows that Gamble 'knew of it; and another witness, the waiter at the Spotted Dog speaks to the same effect. It is quite clear that b o th t h e pr i soners are in possession of part of the deceased's property; they deny having possession of them at first; then [ say the possession of the deceased's property pioves that, after the murder, Good hastened t o L on d on , an d carriedsoff the - property o f the deceosed ; a great part of this he took to' the house of Mary Good, and, through her instru mentality, a part of it is taken to the house of Gamble, there it is concealed, and there it is found. If I am right in the conclusions I draw, I say there is ample evidence to put these prisoners upon their trial on the charge of being accessories after the fact of the murder ; or if not that, the fact of their having the goods and denying the possession of them without being able to account fur it, is in my opinion quite sufficient to warrant you in putting them upon their trial for being accessories: after the fact.: No doubt if the deceased were the wife of Daniel Good, there would be an en d of the ca se , an d if Mary dood were his wife, she could not be an accessory either with respect to the murder or the goods. A wife may be concerned in a murder jointly with her husband ; but she would be considered in law sub protestati viri. There is not, however, the slightest evidence of the deceased being the wife of Daniel Good, or to show that Mary Good is, or ever was, the wife of Daniel • Good. The case must, therefore, be treated as if neither of them were his wife. The ease against Gamble, with re-, spect to his being found in possession of this property, is very strong. He is' seen on the 11th in the house of this woman, and that is the first time we find them together. On the 12th, too, and on the 14th, he is, seen to go into her house and to come out; and on the 16th the goods are found under his bed. I do not mean to say that this implies any attempt at secrecy, because there might have been no other place of safety wherein to deposit the property. I Cannot help thinking on the whole that, A should have no hesitation in saying that he ought to be pat upon his trial as a receiver of stolen property. Utter all the circumstances I think I shall commit him on this part of the case. With respect to Mary Good, the ease against her as .accessory after the fact is much stronger than against Gamble.— (The worthy Magistrate toen recapitulated the principal 1 points in the eridepce, and he then continued):—'these are all very strong facts; but I think the best and safest course I can adopt, is to commit them both as receivers of stolen pro perty, leaving it to the gentlen concerned in the prosecution to prefer any other charge which they may think proper. - Mr. BUrnalay, the Chief Clerk, then commenced reading the depositions, which occupied a considerable time ; they were concluded by six o'clock, when the w4esses were all bound over to prosecute, and the primers were fully committed to take their trial at the next Old Bailey Sessions on the charge of receiving . .stelen property, well khowing it to have been stolen ; Mary Good applied to know if she might have the money which had been found upon her, and which the polite had taken from her, for the purpose of procuring tome comforts for her self whilst in prison. Mr. Haut granted the o s ppbeation, and also made as order that the 1/. 10s. fond, on Gamble shoald be given up; to him. The prisoners were then removed from the bar, and were siaortly tter conveyed to Newgate, in the prison -van.. f the Nobl e E ar l ought to examine a more sound discretion as to t h e time and manner in+'h'.eli he )'Ol2A' forward disenisions oF this np.tnre,—(i''''' hoar.) If Noble Ea r l - • ozleu, Ito i!Te,>rni;.„, .::\'‘.!)l? is ino;ilig for any pi.t.rs or :Joy information he raigll desire. lie (the M arqu i s of N.) had appo i n ted a Commission ; and tne Commisiiioners not bari n g, carried , into effect th e re f orms which he cons id er ed desrable, he repeatedly remonstrated with th ew ' upon this delay in making their report. From these remonstrances, the Noble E ar l m i ght see that h e had been desirous of s ecur i ng to the public the proper carryin. out of the Bill ; and he was sure that the present Government would be equally desirous to do so. The I)uke of WELLINGTON t h ought that his Noble Friend ought not to present a petition containing inilt n l; tations upon a n i n di v id ua l w i thout giving notice. ' Noble Friend had had the petition in his possession mare than one day, an d h e h a d ample time to give bon e ' ,. After a few word s f rom L or d BnounnAm, and fill Earl ST_ NHOPE in explanation, the petition was ordure' to lie on the table, and the House adjourned. hfwe übtainetri to joie HOUSE. OF COMMONS, The SPEAKER took his seat at the usual hour. Mr. HUME t oo k t h e oat h s and his seat for theltii~t rose Bur4hs. The Hon: Gentleman was introduced 0; Mr. Wallace and Mr. Thornely, and was warmly cheere' on his cdiming up to the table. MIEVILL'S DIVORCE BILL. On the motion of Mr. HAY TER, Mr. Jose . ? Huslon and Mr. C. Ranken were called to Ol e bar and examined. The former stated that to served with M rs . Mievill wi t h a copy of the bill divorce, and the latter that he was instructed to act as Mrs. Mirvill' s so li c i tor . Th e Hon. Member moved AS' the service be deemed good, and that the evidence giv e A l/ before the H ouse o f L or d s on the subject be prollutl' Agreed to. IPSWICH ELECTION PETITION. Mr. PAKINGTON reported to the House,; that the Committee o n th e I psw i ch petition had rt.sol ld that Mr. IL Waso n an d M r. G . Rennie were: not du'i ,, returned to represent the borough of Ipswich at the last election, that they were b y their agent s guilty °f bribery at the last election, and, that the new writ ftJ r the borough of Ipswich be suspended until ihe evidence given before the Committee be taken into the consider' ation of the House and printed. Vitt Hon. 'Metnber then that th e i ssu i ng of the writ be suspended 1 three week.—Agreed to. The Thames Haven swd Dock Bill ,• the Dundalk„ Banbridge Railway Int ; Warkw or th Harbour mil' Benecke's Naturtkhation Bill; and the Liverpo o l Bed of the Town P:ad Buildings Regulation Bill, se e ' rally read st second time. The Cotttenham Drainage Bill was read a tlAird and passed. IRISH FISHERIES BILL. Mr. V. STUART presented a petition from ford against certain clauies in. the Fishierie s (Irelau" Bill. INTERNATIONAL commuNicAiToN. Mr. MAKINNON 'presented a petition fr om Belgis ll Merchants residing in Ostend, praying for a daily el: munication through the Past-office with this cOunui ' and a similar petition from British residing in Ostend. THE TARIFF--INCOME-TAX. Mr. M'KENZIE presented .a petition from rob' against the importation of foreign cattle. Mr. HASTIE presented a petition from Paisley favour of the Tariff and the Income-tax. Mr. DUNCOMBE presented a petition from Drvitwi cii against the Income-tax. Mt! HUME, who rose amidst very great cheering' presented two p et i t i ons from Arbroath against the come-tax. THE SUFFRAGE. Mr. O'CONNELL presented petitions frem Dale el' against Class-legislation, for Extension of the Sul foe and for aßupeal of the Union. -NEWPORT ELECTION; The SPEAKER informed the lioute that he had ceived a communication from the agoras''of W. ,T. BP,'" Esq., informing him that it was not his intention to seente his petition against the return of the , i Ol Member for that borough. • Mr. G. PALMER presented two petitions : one fcto the farmers of Essex against the importation of 1.1 ,0 !. cattle ; and another ftom Chelmsford, and other to % " ' against the proposed alteration in the duty on lestner,. Mr. ulna, presented a p et i t i on from Durigar i. ' /3, praying for protection for the Irish fisheries. Mr. VILLIERS presented two petitions, on a fry place in Hertford, against the Income-tax, and...aunv" against the. Cotn-laws. An HON,. MEMBER presented a petition In an 1"" re engaged in the l eat h er tra d e i n Warrington, 'Againstt proposed alteration in the duty on that articl e , NOTICES OF NOTIONg----AFFGHA'NISTA?" Mr. BAILLIE gave notice that he wou'id m ove I `' r ; copy of the correspon d ence between the Governor nerd of India and the Board of Control from the ISt November, 1837, to the Ist of October, 1839, relating Ananistan.- Mr. HITME . (amidst l ou d c h eers) said that he w v ol 3 on Thursday move for a copy of the promotion by 13 2:4 vet, with all the expenses to the country inctif.;, thereby, and a ll f or a S e l ect Committee to inquire inij the proceedingi of the Commissioners of the Nation Debt, appointed u n d er th e 9t h Geo. IV., for the i n e;t , I meat o, monie s in the Savings' Bank s , an d t h e purc b and sale of securities connected with the exigeeciit,, the public service, and the communication s with Chancellors of the Exchequer since 1815.—(Hear.) TURKISH TREATY. Dr. BOWRING gave notice that be would, on , morrow, move for a c o py o f t h e correspondence raid°. to the Turkish treaty. Mr. O'CONNELL gave notice that he wouhl,t i n,,. ° u for a copy of th e ev id enc e before the Longford' " mittee. • TEXAS. Mr. O'CONNELL gave notice that he would, on; do , morrow, put a que s ti on t o t h e Right, lion. B a ronet nib ' 0 head of her Majesty's Governivnt, touching Text' consequence of the alleged conduct of the BMW bassador there, VOTR By BALLOT. thy' Mr. MEL gitv't notice that he would, after to Whitsun holidays, move that the votes of pers oo o ), elect Members ta serve in Parliament, be taken bY lot.—(Cheers.l DUTY ON SUGARS. - •t. Mr. Li.,BOUCHERE gave notice of a motion root ing the, alterations of the ditty on sugar. hi • ?..;.r. WALLACE moved for a return,. showing' p , columns, the numbe r o f causes wh i ch were standing' L e i: t - rolled for d e b ate b e f ore each Lord Ordinary, illy„re, Court of Session i n S cot l an d , on the first of 0 " s it 1840; and which h a d not b een debate° eir that date ;—a similar return of all causes jeo ti rolled for debate b e f ore suc h L ord-Ordinary, h e t , the said first day of J une , 1840, and the present - t he and which are :.till tindebated, showing the date OL (i ~ci• enrolment, the dat e w h en d e b ated, and that of thenoli' sion of each of th e sa id causes b efore each Lord-Li e,I nary ; and also those- causes which h a d been de'" and remained undecided up to this date.—Agreed to SOUTHAMPTON PETIT/ON. d° Mr. REDDINGTON i n f o r me d the House, as , 0 400 man of the South am pt on pet i t i on, that he bad,s' far John Renn into the cus t o d y o f Serrgeant-at- fi r ms' refusing to give evidence before the Committee. nn be ) The . How. MEMBER then moved th at John 13 %trie . called to tha bar o f th e H ouse, to know if he still ' vered in refusing to give evidence. The motion having been put, ,-, mi'it ;a e Mr. BUCK said, that as a Member of the w . °ll3 ,lgfai - who voted against the committal of the indtv" - t - n. , tbr question, he thought it his duty to applY_,,,, l ' ac e House that the evidence given before the Ce7 i i,.,, . the be produced before the House, and he thought,' .11 84 House would be satisfied that the individual, I • 7 _ . t t b i , 4 d le committed any offence, had been sufficiently P eul '• nt-st being given i n t o t h e h ands of the sergei or army. He W ou ld not h ave been placed in Y‘is ~,,1 r : ‘if situation wer e it ... no t . for a m isciy IcePt7 ro egl.Y a resolution o f th e Comittee, and so t be," were • the Committee of that opinion t i tidenr'; came to a divisi on as to whet/fl- his - u ilty °' should be erased. He beli eve d the r kr son was g• . e 0 3 ' no offence, because a p erson was n, , t boun d to gl` dente which would criminate hitm-,, e m Mr. GGRDON said that he. as a Member o ° ! . .b t a b it Committee, was of opinion thr A t a been committed at allthe 'law was that a if the t he not bound to criminate h imself a nd • T ong he; man would criminate himse 7 l by ansr ae d in' t question, the COMM'Atee Wel' a not just.' else, lid Rena shoul d n o nola course they had adopted. If tie could nothing in Oil would give a direct runsnetive, 40 thnojaosi t l e :ss " 111 that the time might ou',;, and tlion the w" h i s ccor l ef be out of cus.dy. The P.ouse, if it allowed t danger/ ,us to be adopted would be et/ tablishing a 'he st • precedent. co ar se Sir T. WILDE apprehended t h at the Pl .° r , er tit any It ould be to ascerta i n *nether the witnesses e t t a wt pre" such objection, • ile thought t h e H ou se Was ll° sent in a coalition t o The SOLICITOR. GENERAL the c ~,,d to and The examined witness, propercourse would i be 'to have the witnesses 04' the bar, the bur d ecide the question.h ed that t he -y the Speaker as follows-- the South ampton Elmion Committee ?—I Were you examined as a witness before er e there any In thq 'course of the examination d W to . A .lthn Wren, was then called to answer f--- 1f There were.. questim put to you which you rweafus.se would hereafter._ Why ?—Beeause I thought it _ t injury [f I answered it, and would do nog reu. a, that question ? , 1 ans werf t , Will you still persist in not • f the House. an 44 . that question, , 1 —I am willing to bow to the decision 13 I the House decide that I am to a nswer ate willing to do so.---(Hear, hear.) Mr. REDDINGTON could assure the , i hoi , osition4 felt himself placed in a most delicate P House - to tA7r the, Committee had been selected by the sworn. at the Id criminate merits of the election. They had been minate myse_ table to net 'conscientiously, and they ire o f terrnined to do so. The Committee the wit nesi opinion that, the excuse giv . en . , ..Y that Coat was an excuse that was not justifiable, and that h must =viler mittee came to the resolution that ....e question, which he refused to do. Hou:_rto.haAd'eb.o, (LEFT SITTING.) ____,-......__:.! MARRIED. On the 94th instant, at the Savoy Church, Strand, Mr. E. Taylor, of Exeter-street, to Miss E. Keane, daughter of Mrs. Bunt, late (.f the Savoy Palace, Savoy-street. Strand. On the sth inst., at Birmingham, Mr. G. firtioy, jun., of St. James's-street, London, to Miss H. Barnett, of Birmingham. London : Printed :Ind Published by MunDo y 0 ()NG . o No. 112, Strain!. at The Snit Office, No. 112. 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