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referring to this letter, says, with some naivete, We must be permitted to say that the population choose of the General have startled us not a little. Surely, after all, chastity is a virtue." But with out entering into any discussion of the General's checks, or entering into any inquiry into the founda tion of morals, we must be allowed to say, in homely language, that he puts the cart before the horse. The Irish, by his own account, are at the very bottom of the social scale—without industry, content to live without luxuries, like hogson straw in a hovel. In vein he asks them, " what right have they, for their own gratification, to bring possibly half a dozen of children into the world, to be kept by those who are more prudent ?" Whether they have a right or not, they will continue for their own gratification to bring families of children into the world.. If the misery which they see around them were sufficient to deter them, we might argue the question with reference to the people themselves. But amidst constantly recur ring famines, the General himself tells us that the cause of famines is in constant operation, for," in no other country is there such a rage for early mar riages." And how should it be otherwise ? The " upper and middle classes, who restrain them selves," to use the General's language, are in the possession of certain enjoyments, which they prefer to a hovel, and straw to lie on, and the gratification of having six children; but a poor bog-trotter is under no fear of lesipg any enjoyments by taking up with his hovel and his straw, for lie has none, and therefore embraces the gratification without hesita tion, unembarrassed as to the consequences of his country—a consideration which never enters the head of any labouring man in any country in the world. General Cockburn may rest assured •that the checks to which he so significantly alludes will never be resorted to by any poor man, for the mere good of his country. Leaving out of considetation the question of morals, which we are not now dis posed to enter on, why, we ask, should a poor po tato-fed Irishman, who can everywhere obtain a young wife to share his straw and his hovel, go about cudgelling his brains to establish the recep tacles alluded to by the Gallant General P All con trivances have their origin in soma necessity, and the Irishman is not under the necessity of resorting to the contrivances alluded to. If General Cock burn had inquired into the causes of the difference between the ethical systems of the countries through which he has travelled, and the ethi cal system of Ireland, he would have found that positive restrictions on marriage led to the prac tices he notices. In many parts of Switzerland the laws of settlement are more severe than they ever were in England, and indiscriminate marriages are not allowed. In Bavaria, Wurternburg, and many parts of Germany, no man is allowed to marry who does not possess certain property qualifications. In some of these countries the Magistrates have pro vieled establishments to guard against greater evils. But every where it will be found that they are the offspring of restraints imposed on the lower orders. We observe that the Dublin Morning Register of Wednesday last will have it that the Irish are not lazy. We can only say, that all the English farmers with whom we have spoken on the subject (and we have spoken to many) give precisely the same ac count of them that General Cockburn gives. They declare that no reliance is to be placed on them, ex cept when they are tasked—that when not tasked, they require more watching than they are worth. They are worth little as regular labourers ; and their early habits easily account for this. But be this as it may, we contend that the condition of Ireland calls loudly for remedial measures. Some thing must be done to extricate the people from circumstances which render them the most wretched of the nations of Europe, a blot on the character of the empire, and a nuisance to th&r neighbours. The higher ranks have no right to shake themselves free from all the consequences of the misery which mi nisters to their luxury. Poorerates will compel them to fall on means to arrest the cause of an evil which, if neglected, will overwhelm thew, We would throw the maintenance of the poor, without scruple, on the rich ; convinced that the rich will sooner find means of keeping down the numbers of he poor, than the poor will find means to bring down the rich to their level. We conclude with the following extract from General Cockburn's letter, in which he charectesizes the scheme of Ministers for relieving Ireland : " But to show how people deceive themselves:—The Ministers propose to lend 50,000/, on good security, and with Commissioners, having, of course, good salaries ; and there are men who thiak this will be a benefit. If they would give themselves the trouble. to calculate, they would find that if, instead of a loan on good security, it sea. to be an absolute gift, it would not feed the starving population in the West, at the lowest quantity of food, for six weeks—though, as an aid in cases of such emergency, it would, no doubt, be useful. But, instead GC granting many thousand pounds to propagate the Gospel in foreign parts, as was lately done, and at the same time grudging and opposing the usual sum to that useful Institution, 3laynooth College, in our own land ; bow much better it have been, to have given the propagating-money to our Dublin INlendicity, or the at Irving population, and left the foreign parts to take care of their own liou!s? It is not elsy to continue - any confidence in a Ministry that could allow such a measure; bad I been one of the col lective, I think I could have prevented this waste of the public money. At all events, there should have been a good tight for it. The poverty is certainly great; will yet I doubt if the starvation, as it is aid, has occasioned death from total want of food, though many have (lied from the sickness occasioned by ;:ad and too scanty nom ish meut."..--Moriling Chrouiele. Although we approve of the tact which Minis ters have of late displayed in discouraging any un necessary discussion upon the Reform Bill, as tend ing to cause deity, yet we cannot say that we alto gether admire the .-xtent to which, in some instances, they seem disposed to carry their prudent principle of non-resistance. Not to delay the Bill unnecessa rily is one thing, butt to precipitate it, without an swering any plausible objections which may have been urged against particular par 's of the measure, is another. We—who have from tik? beginning de precated all excitement relative to the 13;;; ; and have always argued that, as a measure of reason anj jus tice, it should be carried by that temperate and in telligent discussion which best promotes the triumpit e reason—are of opinion that if, where capti vating sophistry or plausible arguments arc used by the adversaries of the measure, the only reply of Ministers is by the silent vote of a sweeping majority, the accelerated velocity which the Bill gains thereby in its progress through the House may be dearly purchased by the effects which unan swered fallacies too often produce upon public opinion. The Ministers should not fall into the mistake that the whole people are divided into Reformers and Anti-Reformers. There is a large middle class, who may be said to have no fixed opinion on the subject, and who wait to hear discussion, and to be convinced by argument. It is very easy for the violent supporters of the Bill to say " hurry it on at al l hazardii;" but we say, " let there be no :a iteceaary delay , but let there be all necessary dis eussion"—so wilt those be convinced who would otherwise be disgusted, and an accession of converts will be gained to the measure through every step of its progress. The class of persons of whom we speak have been permitted of late to hear scarcely any thing but what falls front one side, and they na turally begin to suspect that when Ministers content themselves with saying nothing it is only because they have nothing to say. The prudence of not aid ing the Opposition in their attempts to procrastinate the great measure that is now before the House is obvious, but the reasoning part of the public will always recognise the difference between vexa tious and legitimate discussion ; and the Opposition would do themselves as much mischief by provok- ; mg the one as the Ministers:may sometimes do by avoiding t he other. If they have the confidence , which they ought to have in the i ti v i ti a t c c t al f ise d whi l eh! they have championed, they upon the principle th4t the mosti-e"it(i.s discu,sedesasnYt; the better it is understood, the mote acceptable it will eventually be to the coontry----Obis we saY, re taining our opinion* the injurious consequenfes of the division of comities, and the tahmsiflan ui fau n tenants at will to the elective franchise). But M;- tnisters seem at present to act upon the opposite principle, and to apprelecd that unless a decision on each provision of the Bill be precipitated, the ultimate success of the measure must be endangered. Nor should Ministers suppose that an impression fur good or for evil is not to be made on the House of Lords, or, at least, on many Metr bers of that House, by the discussion of the principles and details of the Bill in the House of Commons. They should hear in mind that the publication of the debates in the Lower House put their Lordships, within a few hours after they are uttered, in possession of every argument used for and against the Bill, in every stage of the proceeding. Thus every discussion of the Bill in the House of Commons may be considered also a discussion of it in the House of Lords, inasmuch as it must make a moral impression either for or against it among the here ditary legislators, who will hereafter have to decide upon it. Let not, then, the Ministers, by follow ing the advice of intemperate, injudicious, or insin cere friends, furnish the adversaries of the Bill with the most plausible of all the objections that can be advanced against their own measure, and thus render them more formidable than their own wisdom or talents could make them. We know all that may be said—and a gteat deal has been said—as to causing delay ; but it is impossible that a great pro portion of the people of England should not reason thus—" If the measure be a good one, it cannot suffer by such delay as is necessary to refute the ar vuments used against it, or become the less likely to be generally approved by its heing more fully and clearly unfolded to the sober reason and calm good sense of the country."—Morning Herald. EXPRESS FROM PARIS. (From the hlea sager des Chambres, dated yesterday,Sept.2. ) Caacow, AUGUST 7.—lt is generally believed here that negociations will take place near Warsaw, at the two head quarters of the Generals PARIS, SEPT. I.—The Russians are only three leagues from Warsaw. The Polish army has retreated from its position on the Brzura. After some partial combats, the retreat on all points took place in presence of the Russian army. A part of the Polish army bivouacked on the 17th round Warsaw. The National, which we have now before us, states we have letters from Vienna of the 20th, which speak of a suspension of arms between the Poles and the R(18 sians as positive." FRENCH FUNDS.—Five per Cents. 89f. 80c. ; Three per Cents. 59f. 10c. FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE. FRENCH PAPERS. (From the Messager des Chambres of Thursday.) LISBON, AuG. 15.—(Private Correspondence.)—Don Miguel, or at least his Government, has began already to neglect the performance of those solemn pledges which it had lately given to the English Minister. In consequence of the popular commotions which took place here upon the arrival of the French squadron in the Tagus, several arrests we taken place ; amongst those so arrested are several British subjects. The English Consul immediately pro tested against these proceedings, but the Portuguese Go vernment not being inclined to extend its indulgence to wards ihose who have relapsed into error, these foreign prisoners are still subjected to the weight of the accusations hich are directed against them. The English Consul Las demanded of his Government formal and precise in structions with regard to these fresh outrages. It appears that some new conditions have been agreed to between the French Admiral and M. de Santarem, rela tive to the guarantees which are to be given upon our part, to insure the punctual execution of those conditions imposed on and consented to by Dun Miguel. For in stance, some of our men•of--war are to be sent to France, tee replace our merch int vessels, which, in that case, will again be available for our commerce. In order that these arrangements may take immediate effect, the Commanders of four of our men-of-war have received orders to set sail immediately for France. To conceal, without doubt, from the people the fact of these arrangements, a report has been industriously spread, that this little squadron is destined to re-establish the blockade of Terceira. For some days tranquillity has been restored. The tri coloured flag excites no longer a feeling of revolt among the people, who are now familiarised to a flag which hitherto they have looked upon as a symbol of conquests. The manager of the Gazette du Midi has been sen tenced to 15 days' imprisonment, a fine of 300 franca, and 3,000 francs damages, for defamatory language spoken of the Mayor of Marseilles during the late elections. The printer has been sentenced to 15 days' imprisonment, 150 francs fine, and 1,000 francs damages. The Chamber of Peers will meet on Wednesday, the 31st of August, at two o'clock, in order to receive a mes sage from the Crown. (From the Constitutionnel of yesterday.) ROME, AuG. I6.—M. Zamboni, Inspector• General of the Pontifical troops, has been sent to recruit in Switzer kind and in some towns of Lombardy, in order to com plete the 15,000 men of the Pope's army. The Govern ment remitted to him a sum of 33,000 francs (6,000 Ro man crowns) to commence with. The same sum will be forw:irded to him weekly, according as he wants it, until he shall ban raised 6,000 men. Those sums, together with the moneys paid by the Pope to the Austrian army of occupation, have exhatisted the ir:sources of the Apos t‘tlical Chamber, and forced the Government to sell some of the Church property. It was consequently found ne.c,essltry to have recourse to a new loan, in order to equip and ar:.tt the 15,000 men the Pope is soon to have in his pay. The house of Rothschild, of London, and se veral other English banking eztalrhshments, have offered three millions of Roman crowns, or 60,0001, sterling, on condition that the Pope should mortgage to them the Custom cluth.:a of the fair of Sinigaglia. The Apostolical Chamber has already rc,.:eived a part of those three mil lions for its current expenses. It is reported that those • capitalists 10. Yr.: obtained by vom,c see! Ar ticles of the contract other securities for the payment of thpie ad vances. Mut gave rise to ilia rumour is, that the pro ceeds of the customs raised at the fair are so liahle to be affected by circumstances, that they would be buts bad security ; besides, it is held in the Romagna, a country which from one day to tho other may be transferred to another Government. . . PNms.—The Commission appoint..4i 4 picamine the project of law on the Peerage has appointed M. Ikeer,ger its President, and N.. Ytennet its Secretary. It was com pleted yesterday by the election .9f Zsl. L'Herbette fur the fifth Bureau. Letters front Augsburg, received yesterday in Paris, state that 4000 Bavarian troops had already repaired to the froutieraas Austria, to form the sanitary cordon. (From the `einik a Wednesday.) W e received no late news from Warsaw. The Nuremberg Co u ,ler of Peace and War !t4: the follow. ing P r i va t e letters from Warsaw mention that the tie , putation that has gone to heaO,:ouarters was empowered to conclude with the Russian Fieli.garshal the negociations that have for a long time been secretly carried on. This opinion is the more probable, as every account sve have hitherto obtained from Warsaw states that the Govern- • ment and the people had the utmost confidence in the in tegrity of Skrzynecki, and that, consequently, there is no ground for the report of his being ordered to ho hccuzh.t. to trial. It is not the Polish General, but Paskewitsch, who wishes to avoid a battle; because he sees that he would risk in one day his whole military fame, and that even sup posing be was successful, he w041.d still have to contend with a population determined to bury itself under the ruins of its capital. The Poles in the provinces offer, it is said, little resistance to the Russians, the majority of the inhabi tants being tired of the vexations and extortions of both friends and foes, and.call for the ces.nt;on of hostilities at any price. This would be a reason the more fo its Chiefs in Warsaw to negociate with the enemy. The 3f st P,rotowl is said to have been drawn up at 'M. de Talleyrand's request., ;I) order to restore confidence in the pacific intentions, and the coptipeaton .of gond har mony among the Powers. Sir FRANCIS BURDETT and Mr. COKE are -aid to have declined the Peerage ; Mr. PORTMAN and Sir RICHARD SUTTON are .c.r.nprig those who have accepted the proffered distinction. ST. LEOI,-; RD'S.—Several authprs andj,it!...rary • • ,men have honoured u,: IT domiciling in our vicinity—J. CAMYRELL, Esq., eiito,r,of "Metropolitan;' B. A. MADDEN, 1 7 ,q., author of "Travels" ac the " 31tissul man ;" and others, who are about to found a 14i.:;:einn of Natural History and Literary Club. Our \Vest ,suuxt .have a high , notion both of the morality of t,he.lngther country, and of her regard for their intqests, when they see, at almost one. Ind the time time, two puhli , , , lefsolter, ;,..rit out to ad minister their Government. ItA I LS. Arrived. Due. Arrived. Doe. O America 0 1 Hamburg 0 O Brazil O Buenos Ayre' 0 0 Jamaica 0 0 Carthagena 0 0 Leeward Islands ... 0 1 Dublin 0 0 Lisbon 1 O Flanders 0 0 Malta . 0 O France 0 0 Sweden 0 Guernsey &Jersey.. 0 1 Waterford HIGH WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE TO-MORROW. Morning 17 minuted after 0. I Evening... 47 minutes after 0, TO-MORROW. THE AGE" SPLENDID CORONA -I- TION PRINT, combining the Two Great Events of the present Reign ; representing the4NTHRO NIZATION in WESTMINSTER ABBE of their Most Gracious Majesties KING WILLIAM the FOURTH and QUEEN ADELADE ; and the OPENING of LONDON BRIDGE. Dedicated, by permission, to the Royal Family. This National Print, now in prep tration, is engraved on Steel, from a beautiful Drawing, painted expressly for the Proprietor of The Age Newspaper, by that admired Artist, David Roberts, Esq. It is the size of the News paper, and will be presented Gratis to the Subscribers of The Age, as a tribute of loyal affection to the Sovereign and his Consort, and of respect to the Readers of that Journal. To prevent disappointment, Duplicate Plates have been prepared at an expense of Five Hundred Guineas,—the Proprietor of The Age being determined to eclipse all his Contemporaries in the presentation of A SPLENDID WORK OF ART. The Drawing of the Ceremonial of the Crowning in the Abbey has been made from the best authorities, and in strictaccordance with thearrangements made by Mr. Smirke fur the CORONATION of the KING and QUEEN. Country Newsmen, Booksellers, and Subscribers, are re quested to send their Orders before the 29th of August, as the Plates will be delivered on Sunday next, September 4, according to priority. THE REFORM BILL. LIST of the DIVISION on the :nth CLAUSE, on Friday, on the Motion of Sir Thomas Fremantle, 4 ‘ That all Non-Resi dent Freeholders of the Hundreds of Shoreham, Cricklade, Aylesbury, and Bassetlaw, should retain the Right of Voting for those Boroughs during their Lives. Majority with Ministers against the motion lo'2 Minority tor Sir T. Fremantle's motion 2.9 MAJORITY. :Hoskins, K. Hughes, W. H. Hume, Joseph James, W. Jeffrey, Rt. Hon. F. Jephson, C. D. 0. Jerningharn, H.V. S, Johnston, A. King, E. B. Knight, R. Lamb, Hon. G. Lefevre, C. S. Lennox, Lord J. G. Littleton, K J. Lushington, Dr. Maberl, , W. L. Macdonald, Sir J. Mackenzie, J. A. S. Mangles, J. Marryatt, J. Martin, John Maule, Hon. W. Mayhew, W. Moreton, H. O'Connell, D. Paget, T. Palmer, C. F. Payne, Sir P. Pendarves, E. W. Penlease, J. S. Petit, L. H. Petre, Hon. F. Phillipps, C. M. Pepys, C. Ponsonby, Hon. G. Agnew, Sir A. A Ithorp, Viscount Astley, Sir J. D. Baring, Sir I'. Benett, John Bentinck, Lord G. Blake, Sir F. Blamire, W. Blunt, Sir C. Blackney, W. Boyle, J. Burke, Sir J. Calvert, Nicholson Campbell, J. Canning, Sir S. Carter, J. B. Crampt , m, P. C. Creevey, I'. Curteis, H. B. Denman, Sir Thos. Dixon, J. F,asthope, J. Ewart, \V. Fergusson, R. C. Gilbert, I). G, Godson, R. Graham, SirJ. R. G.' Grant, Right lion. R. Hawkins, J. H. Handley, W. F. lleywood, B. Hill, Lord G. A. Hodges, T. L. Hodgson, John Horne, Sir W. (Power, R. Prittie, R. Ramsbottom, J. ,IRickford, w. Rooper, J. It Russell, Lord J. Sanford, E. A. Scott, Sir E. D. Skipwith, Sir G. Smith. R. V. Strickland, G. Struts, E. T en nyson, C. IThicknesse, R. Thomson, C. P. Throckmorton, Tyrell, t'. Venables, W. Vernon, G. J. Villiers, T. H. Walker, C. A. Warburton, H. Warre, J. A. Watson, Hon. R. Wilde, I'. Wilks, J. W. A. Williamson, Sir H. Willoughby, Sir H. Wood, M. Wood, C. Weyland, J. TELLER. Nugent, Lord Ashley, Lord Clerk, Sir G. Clinton, C. J. F. Croker, J. W. Dalrymple, Sir A. Dawson, G. It. Dick, Quintin Douglas, W. R K. Forbes, Sir C. Freshfield, J. W. Gordon, J. E. MINORITY Knight, J. L. Praed,l W. M. Lewis, T. F. 'Pusey, F. Lowther, Hon. H. Scott, H. F. Lyon, W Sugden, Sir E. It. Mackillop, J. Townshend, Lord C. Miller, W. H. Trench, Colonel 3iu, ray, Sir G. ,Wood, Si! C. Pemberton, T. 'Wood, Colonel T. Pigot, G. G. W. Prii.gle, A. TELLER. IFremantle, Sir 'I% PRICES OF THE STOCKS Bank Stock 3 per Cent. Red 3 per Cent. Cons. Bl% 2% 31 1 per Cent. shut Ditto Red New 3%per Cent S93t ze 3 per Cent. 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Portugal Gold, coin 0 0 0 Foreign Gold, in bars 3 17 10i New Doubloons.— 3 15 9 I New Dollars [Silver bars, standard 0 5 0 Etf Twk.'' .74 ' 4ll o • f*Aln• LONDON, SATVIWAY EVENING, SEPTEMBER 3, 1831 By our Parliamentary report of this day, our readers will learn with great gratification, that there is every probability of the Reform Bill passing *rouh Committee by Wednesday next. Lord ALTHORP'S obserFations on this head, in reply to Mr. CROK ER, will be found welj worthy cf attention. - • 1 the Upper House last night the. LonD CHANCELLPP. brought in a sill (which Way read a first time) to extend to the Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction Courts the same remedy against in dividuals having Parliamentary privileges, which fire Chancery and Common Law Courts possess at present. Wg, 7 . e delighted to find his Lordship thus actively puEhiilg the spirit pf inquiry into every department of law . ; simplifying what is obscure, rectifying what is ,unjust; and rendering rational what is absurd ? KL4II the sagacity and d,eterm,ined perseverance of a patii - ot (7,14 a statesman. Equally gra tified are we to find that his s ‘ ervi,,ces a,ro l appreciated, as they should be, by tbil public ; and that he is already spoken of as o in.e of the best and wisest Chancellors that i ever grow the Woolsack. The Herald of this morning says, " it itaa beoi proposed in the city that the speech of .o . rd 0)1 yriday, ip the Court of Chancery, ( Shonlo ,be printed is letter; k?f gold. We can only ;ay that he richly deserves :Ili, :,:nd more , than A, the dilinction which the pan': can bestow on him." So say we, and so, we are convinced, say the majority of the people of England. Lord BROUGHAM is a Reformer in the Most enlightened and com prehensive sense of the term. He does not he sitate, nor pause, nor go two steps back for every one that he takes forward, but pushes right on to the goal, regardless alike of the sneers—the shrugs and the remonstrances—of the inter ested, the distrustful, and the timid. He knows that gigantic abuses require a giant's power to remove them, and this power he is both able and willing to apply. Yet he is neither rash nor precipitate, but tempers zeal with sa gacity, and courage with discretion. Hence the public, which knows how to appreciate such rare and high qualifications, goes along with his Lordship in his Reforms, and will walk side by side with him, assisting and encouraging him as he proceeds, to the termination of his glorious, but arduous undertaking. To the proposal for printing his late speech in characters of gold, we give our hearty, unqualified assent. Such a document deserves to be so distinguished, as a triumphant proof of what can be effected by diligence, energy, and perseverance, when applied in a fitting spirit to fitting ends. In the House of Commons last night, in the Committee on the Reform Bill, the House pro ceeded as far as the 30th clause, which is in reality making progress. We Congratulate the country on this change for the better in the movement of the Bill, and hope that it will continue unabated till the measure is fairly launched into the Lords. The most com plicated and difficult portions of the Bill are now disposed of : we may therefore rea• sonably look forward to a speedy termination of discussion. The majority of the remaining clauses are such as afford little or no scope for debate, not even though those tried and veteran tacticians Messrs. WETHERELL, CROKER, and Co. exercise their utmost ingenuity. Within a fortnight the Bill, we have little doubt, will have passed the House of Commons. If not, in a trying season like the present, we shall have more illnesses, if not deaths, among Hon. and Right Hon. Members. St. Petersburgh, German, and Dutch Papers have been received this morning. The two for mer contain some particulars respecting the ope ration of the Russian brigands in Poland. The St. Petersburgh Journal is, of course, wroth with the Polish patriots, whom it courteously styles " vagabonds," and states, what we have no doubt is an arrant falsehood, that " they marked their way through Lithuania by plunder and excesses of all kinds." The Prussian State Gazette, doubtless with equal veracity, mentions that a general wish prevails among the Polish peasantry, that the Russians may soon come to relieve them from their in tolerable burdens, for that they are weary of the war, the advantage to be gained by which they cannot at all comprehend. It is very likely, forsooth, that the Polish peasantry should desire the visi tation of a Ru's4sian army, which has already treated them with such special humanity, by plundering, imprisoning, and torturing them by hundreds Nothing can be more natural than that they should be • anxious for a renewal of such atrocities ! The same Journal then pro ceeds to state that the Russians are tri umphant on all sides, and that Warsaw must soon return to the domination of the EMPEROR. By later information, however, we learn that ne gociations are being entered into between the Poles and the Russians, the latter of whom are almost at the gates of Warsaw. The mere fact of these negociations going forward, is a clea r proof of the weakness of the Imperial power ; for when did Russia ever yet negotiate with an enemy, except when she was too weak to play the part of the despot and the bully ? - What, NICHOLAS enter into treaty with the rebellious Poles from motives of humanity ; and this too, after the publication of foursuccessive Manifestoes,smelling of blood and ominous of slaughter ! No, no, the motives for his negotiation can deceive no one. He has been frightened into the busi ness. The bully has descended from his stilts, and stands on his own proper footing as a DAY ♦T ONK O'CLOCK. New 5 per Cent. India Stock Ditto Bonds South Sea Stock .... Old Annuities 80% IN, New Ditto 3 per Cent. Ann. 1751 Ex Bills, .£ 1,000 lO 11 pm. Ditt0....... 500 lO 11 pm. Ditto Small Ditto Commercial „ ..... Pm. Ditto Advertised lO pm. Bank for Account India for Account ...... Cons. for Oct. 13 craven : Sr. PETERSBURGII, AUG. 16.-Admiral Gabriel Saryt scheed died here on the 11th inst. with symptoms of the cholera. He was a Member of the Imperial Academy, and many other learned societies ; he began his naval career in 1780, and accompanied Billing ou his voyage, of which he published an account. As Rear-Admiral he gave a de scription of the Gulf of Finland, and the first correct plan of St. Peteraburgli, and was engaged during the last ten years in composing a history of all the ports of Russia, which is nearly finished, and we hope will be printed. CHOLERA. On the morning of 12th August there remained patients 312. New Cases, Recovered. Deaths. Aug. 12 13 14 15 Remained on the 16th in the morning '213, of whom 120 are likely to recover. The St. Petersburgh Gazette contains a report from Count Paskewitach to the Emperor, dated Lowicz, Aug. giving an account of the march of the main army up to that date. Ps Majesty has also received a report on the entire evacuation of the Govermaent of Lithuania by the Polish rebels who had penetrated into it. This report states the defeat and retreat into Prussia of phe corps of Cltrapowsi, Roland, and Simanowski, and the escape of PenolAnski's division, which, says the report, fled with such precipitation that our troops, with all their efforts, could not overtake it. The object of the rebels to kindle the flames of rebellion in Lithuania has totally failed, anti of 20.000 men that the rebels sent into Lithuania, hardly 4,000 men, among whom are very few regular troops, have returned to Poland. The greater part are vagabonds collected by Manjeiwicz Przedecki, anti other traitors, that like the rebel Rustrizki, marked their way with Plutldtr and excesses of all kinds, proving to the in habitants What was to be expected from such hands. 731 xt.rx, Aug.' 6.—fwo reports from tie Russian h e ad-qoarters, dated Lowicz 13th and )t 4th Aitgugt, give very long details of the operatiur.s of the 'Russian army bn its advance from the yistula towards Warsaw. The:first 'report tOrms that the Russians no where meet with any , , resistance from tire peasaWy, that the general arming o f the inbaMtant, nrdere4 tie eitiets of the insur• gents has not succeeded, that the Pcuntr i , ppp;e aEe weary of the war, the advantr.ge to be gained by whiett they do not understand, but of which they severely feel the hardships. Nothing can equal the wretched appear ance of the poor people, who have been torn from their rural labours ; teeny hundreds of them, that were taken by a detachment of liulans, were overjoyed on being ° ordered 7 7ie14-,%'arshal to return to their own homes, and a general. wish pravaila ;' ';in the the Russians may soon• come to relieve them fromt their itilliierahle burdens." - After detailing the operations,, the firstireport says, " suchsis now (Aug. 13,) the state of affairs. On the DT;'; t;cle the insurgents have concentrated their force, about 50,000 'mu, between the fiver Rawka and Blanie, behind them is Warsaw with its fortifications, its barricades, and 100,000 inhabitards. On the other side the Russian main army, under Field-Marshal Paske witsch, is concentrated about Luwiez, not stronger than their enemy, but an army of chosen troops, inured to hard ships and to war, and eager for the combat. New forces are advancing in three different sides; on the north Ge neral Baron Kreutz, with the troops which have victo riously ended the contest in Lithuania, from Bizesc Li tewski, Baron Rosen, with the troops assembled there ; and from the south, General Rudiger, who has probably passed the Vistula. Thus clouds are collecting round the rebel lious capital, which will soon he reduced to itself, the authors of the insurrection, and the army." The second report details the passage of the Vistula by General Rudiger, before whom all are flying in terror and confusion. He had dispersed the enemy's troop•, disarmed the Landsturm, and was advancing rapidly to the Piliza, so that he would soon join the main army, and act together with it against Warsaw. The Russian head-quarters were still at Nadarzyn on the 20th of August. THE HAGUE, Aua. 30.—His Excellency Monsignor Capaccini, Internuncio from the Papal See to the King of the Netherlands, arrived here yesterday from London. By the Admiral de Ruyter we have accounts from Ba tavia of the 4th of May. All was tranquil in Java. M. Louis, one of the two Belgians who was at rested by order of the Governor-General, had been embarked on hoard a ship and enjoined never again to set his foot in Java. This news necessarily proves the falsehood of the report of the insurrection of the Belgians in Java, published by Van de Weyer in the English newspapers. ♦MSTERDAN, AUGUST 30. Actual Debt, 2% per cent 3 6 1/i to 37 Amort Syndic, 454 per cent. Exchange on London. Two Months Our Express from Paris states that the Rus sians are only three leagues from Warsaw ; that the Polish army has retreated from its position on the Brzura ; and that it is generally believed that negociations will take place near Warsaw, at the two head-quarters of the Generals. Letters from Vienna speak positively of a suspension of arms between the Russians and the Poles. The drama, therefore, is now rapidly drawing to a close. It has been a bloody one; may it experience a for tunate termination ! But, we repeat, negotia tion or no negotiation, Poland must be free not nominally, but really and truly so. Quali fied independence, which is but slavery in disguise, will do nothing. Our City Correspondent says, " A private letter from Brussels states that it was impossible to describe the consternation that prevailed there when the contents of the Protocol No. 34, were known : the Belgian Ministers were greatly sur prised, and several couriera were sent to London and Paris on the subject." Our readers will find in another part of The Sun three fresh Protocols of the Conference of London, which merely confirm officially, what was before known, that the Conference had pro posed a truce of six weeks between Holland and Belgium. The manner in which Mr, SADLER'S motion for the introduction of Poor Laws into Ireland was received by the Government has displeased some of our contemporaries, for want, as it seems to us, of sufficient consideration on their part, of the difficulties of the question. No specific plan has yet been pointed out for carrying into effect the desired object, nor has much light been thrown on how the abuses are to be prevented, which have made the English system so mischievous. It is hardly fair, therefore, to charge the Go vernment with indifference to the welfare of Ire land, because it asks for time to consider the details of a measure, to which it is by no means opposed, but which is too important to be in troduced in the premature haste with which Mr. SADLER has pressed for its adoption. Looking to the state of society in Ireland, and to the almost unanimous opinion of all intelligent observers of the condition of the Irish poor, we are satisfied that the time has arrived when it is no longer safe to withhold a legal provision for the wants of a famishing people. It is to be feared, that it is not possible to draw the distinction so ably shown by Mr. SENIOR to exist between the cases of the infirm and of the able-bodied poor; for, although Mr. SENIOR may be right in the abstract, yet we are called to legislate for a diseased country, and must therefore apply to it the remedy which, though injurious to a healthy country, is best calculated to preserve it from the peculiar danger that threatens it. Things are come to that pass that property cannot be expected to be secure unless subsistence is pro vided for a famishing multitude, and how that is to be done, unless by a rate upon property, does not appear. Time will, it is to be hoped, do much to augment the resources of Irish in dustry, and so enlarge the fund of subsistence for the people ; but we cannot, in common hu manity, allow the people to perish in the mean time. Dr. DOYLE has been accused of holding St. Sitnonian doctrines; hut, however this may be, we defy any one to point out any thing that has ever proceeded from that excellent Prelate, in consistent with the genuine spirit of the religion of which he, is so distinguished an ornament. Nothing can he more natural than that the op. pression and injustice with which Ireland has ever been treated by her conquerors, should stir the righteous indignation of a Christian Minis ter. We have well understood the arts of slaughter and confiscation, but have we ever atoned, by the practice of justice and mercy, for the iniquities of our conquest ? The question will he hest answered by the broad line of demar cation which still divides the Irish nation from the British settlers. We have never conciliated the national affections ; we have never been able to convince the inhabitants that they were go verned for their own welfare. Is it then too mach for the Irish people to ask, to be kept alive by the present owners of the lands of their fore- fathers, whose confiscation and bestowal upon foreigners 'are still remembered with such hitter. ness? Certainly the tenure of Irish property is not such as to intitle it to claim an exemption from the conditions to which property in every country is justly The institution of Poor Laws, though highly necessary, is nevertheless only one of the many Reforms which Ireland has a right to look for. There is another Reform of the most urgent necessity, without which Ire hind cr.n. never !:e Ita..;py—we mean, the root and branch Pof the rish- Protea tam. Church. We go the full ltngth of Th. ~- DOYLE, in asserting the right of to the revenues of that Church, to superior to that of the - pe. pockets they now fill. We care whom we join in expressin abomination of the iniquity which to the uses of unrighteous gain, which Catholic piety had dedicate, port of the national religion of L example of St, Louts, King of which, in this case, ought not to overlooked. That pious Prince, Mr. HALLAM, " not contented pulous justice of his own Chri pointed commissaries to inquire wl had been unjustly annexed to the during the last two reigns. Then to the proprietors, or where lengt made it difficult to ascertain the value was distributed among the pi of the commutation of tithes in commended by Mr. SENIOR, there for no inconsiderable provision besides a decent maintenance ft Clergy. The Government is known to be quit e reverse of indifferent to the wrongs of 'NU and we do not blame Ministers for proceeding I caution when they propose to tread in a new P The Irish gentlemen, however, who are the t , friends of their country, should not cease t°' mulate Ministers by every means in their po" and encourage them to set at defiance the rep tance of hard-hearted landlords, and m ercer s parsons, to the accordance of tardy justice t° oppressed people. the Irish 4GR o be i n fin ol On )ersons eonsl • c care not Seal" the 1g our j va has conVe as be 01 Part those re ti e warves ted to th Ireland• f ea ,; France, iA o f begi n av be altoges:erte we a re told to°7 bri [ with the se damp, istian life, 1 r the w hag /hat posses babl Royal doh"fo'rled ;e were rest; Plewxiarl th of time step, f or claimant, Mariepoor." In ablei tt Ireland, as 011114; re will be 11 0 t 4 ',c'st for the pc; i i 4 I Y For the Cal i train SIIIPPING INTELLIGENCE-(THIS V FROM LLOYD'S. 11 STANDOATE CREEK, SEPT. 2.—Arrived the Lits -s ,t t Blackburn, front St. Petersburgh; and Elbe p 8 G endinning, from Hamburg. PORTSMOUTH, SEPT. 2. —Wind N. N. E. _Artie Majesty' s ship Vip e r, fr o m Plymouth ; and his Dior ; .hip Brisk, from Sheerness. BRISTOL, SEPT. I.—Arrived the Britannia, Da 4nb from Balbadoes. C l 4 LIVERPOOL, SEPT. 1.--Arrived the Indian 0, Gill, from Detnerara; and George Wilkinson, fool John's, N.B. CLYDE, SEPT. I.—Arrived the Romulus, fruo - John's, N.B. fO4 DUBLIN, Aun. 31.—Arrived the Lady Clark, from Jamaica. ,„ GRAVESEND, S EPT . 2 i o .—Arrived the Susan, Do; Caledonia, M'G regor , f rom C rons t a dt. S a il e d the ti e }r k Simpson, for Madeira ; Cora, Legrand, for Syra ; ti mond, Middleton, for Cadiz ; and Sarah Maria, de b Pernambuco. The Dee, Moor, was totally destroyed by fire, the I' of June John 80, at nny. 0 i The Burke, White, from Dominica to New ° land, was abandoned the I3th of June; crew saved' i 1 1 n 4 O COURT OF CIIANCERY—(THIS DA B The The LORD CHANCELLOR sat to-day at nine o'c• t 0 his room (which was open to the public), to hea r e r applications which C ounse l or parti e s w ere prel"r,, make. Four cases were in the paper. A g oodr if i Counsel and parties were in attendluce, and a fterP' ,„ disposed of th a t c o uld b e b roug ht f o rw a rd his Lor "Tioi walked off to the House of Lords, where he said hel l o , take his seat as soon as he could get down. He that he should sit h e re on S a turday next at nine e f 0 Nothing was brought b e fore him this morning of public interest. THE MARKETS.-(THIS DAY.) COVENT-GARDEN MARKET. There was a great supply at this m orn i ng ' s ma rket, 1:/ ' dull trade. Damsons, Common Red and Bl ac k Pl u ms, cod Green Gages, and Mulberries, lower than on this day g'' fr prices otherwise stationary. 1 s d• s.d. s.d 4t Potatoes (cwt.) : 0 Ca' bages (12 heads) 0 9 1 6 Green Pease ............ 5 .., . , Cauliflowers 3 0 5 0 French Beans 3 0 1 Morse itadish(bund.e) 5 0 8 0 Young Apples 50 j Brocoli 0 9 1 6 Pear; ,0 • Celery • Carrots 12 bunches) 4 0 6 0 Black Plums ‘5,17 ! Young Turnips Turnip Radishes 1 0 16i Mushrooms ' • ) ° l' On ions 2 6 5 0 Onions (for pickling !. 0 Coleworts or Greens 1 0 2 0 Span. Chesnuts (peck) 5, 0 ‘: Leeks 1 0 1 6 French ditto ... ...... ... i 0 Seville Oranges (100) 8 0 12 0 Spanish tiazienuts ... b, 0 1 1 , Lemons 8 0 14 0 I.rench Walnuts ....... , Gerkins 0 6 2 0 Brazilian Nut 5.......... '.:.; " 0 . Cm Lettuces (score) 0 8 1 4 Eng. Grapes (per 1b.)... i ( ) ) Cabbage ditto 0 3 0 8 Foreign O9 i Cucumber; (brace).... o'2 It, Filberts 0 0 Radishes (12 hands)... 0 3 0 6 Sea.kail (pummel) Peaches (dozen) 3 8 10 0 Endive 0 ^ Green Gages Melons (each) 4 0 10 0 Orle. i ns Plums .... ..... ~ 6 Pine Apples (lb.) HAY MARKE'T'S.—(At per Load of 36 Trusses.) CUMBERLAND (LATE ST. JAMES'S.) ii, Coarst heavy Lowland Meadow Hay £2 10 1 ° 1 'stew Meadow Hay 3 5 4 Useful Old Ditto 3 0 J Fine Upland Meadow and Rye-grass Hay 4lO ) glover Hay 3 5 I Oat Straw .£1 Bto .£1 10 1 Wheat Stiaw.., 118 te j, Supply moderate, trade steady, and prices as last quo' SMITHFIELD. Ii Coarse heavy Lowland Meadow Hay £2 5 I ° New Meadow Hay 2 10 Uceful Old Ditto 2lO 4 Fine Upland Meadow and aye-grass Hay 315 I, Clover Hay (extra tine).....£6 6... Generally Oat Straw .f 1 6to ..£1 8 1 Wheat Straw 1 12 Supply moderate, trade dull, and prices stational"' THE FUNDS.—(THIS DAY.) CITY, TWELVE 0' CL 0 elli' Port-au-Prince P a pers to th e Ilth of July 1 0° j, received at the North an d S ou th A mer i can Coffee" pee but they are very uninteresting and do not contain aril . 0 t 1 On a question p u t b y Si r R. V yvyan , l as t n ight' ' o f f House to Lord Althorp in regard to the four Protoe°l# liting to Belgium, Lord Althorp said, he c ool , ' t i° d ,o ewer for their correctness, but did not d en y that 'i, described had been agreed to. A private letter cf Brussels states, that it was impossible to describe theill, sternation that prevailed ther e wh e n the contents °, Protocol No. 31-, was known, the Belgian 31inister . :4 1 greatly surpri-ed, and several couriers were sent to and Paris on the subject. ti ti 4 The French troops, to the number of 30,000, .v." ll ' ° 'll/ said to remain in Belgium, are to be entirely at t t le . posal of King Leopold. We have no fresh arrivals up to the present b° ur.• even a single ship letter has come to hand, c onseq u we are barren of information. f ` °‘ It is now the general opinion, and con6rr o f ol/ various quarters, that we may soon expect to hear ci arrangement between the Russians and Pol e s, and it be hoped it will take place before a general kattlii• eLSE OUNDSo Consuls, which left off yesterday at 81-4- 82, oP e- i,, , the same pri ce , s i nce w hi c h t h ey were Cone at t ) * o „ile, present they are 82, with little doing, a s the are waiting the express from Paris to obtain the po the French Rentes. Nothing doing in the Foreign Market as yet. HALF-PAST 0 • What we stated yesterday, in regard to nor. going forward between the Russians and Poles, 31 be confirmed to-day by the express from Pais. the French Papers stater, by accounts received Vienna, that a suspension of a:ms has talsin Another Paper say they are gbing"to Regbciate u" walls of WarsaW. - , t The French Funds have again improved, the Cents. being 591. 10c. ; in consequence of which have been done at 82i for the Account, at wili cij they are at present. In the 'Foreign ilatliet pothipg dqii;g• e PC THREE 0' CL° Consols, 82k. FOUR 0 CLOCK.—CLOSING PRICE S ' Consols Bei Danish .........• ••••*" Ditto fur Account 82E Greek, 11325.••• Brazilian Bonds 49- Mexican, 1525. °Y 4 Buenos Ayres, Peruvian ....•••• r m .) Chilian Ditto Russian ~......•• Columbian, I 8•?-1 - .......... , CU On genera - - Idered E ie alon, and a various c been kno of A ug , harvest, show accom! Were e to spro ted by a , brisk gall 'ie Crop i ines s in weather, been gl4 the fan forward coui ties Wl;i' and ret ier of be, Misery. State 01 Ider-store parts with rains hi of tre r~ If,' A