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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, May 9. - - The house sat to-day at In minutes before 4 o'clock. Mr. Burton, from the Trinity House, presented an account of the Pilots' Fund for the year 1833. Mr. Firth, from the office of the town Clerk of the City of London, presented an account of the oath taken upon the admission of persons to the freedom of London. Mr. Wainwright presented the report of the corn rnisqioners of the port of London. Earl RADNOR presented a petition from the dissenters of Greenwich, praying for relief. The Duke of RICHMOND presented petitions from the hand-loom weavers of Northen against the corn laws ; from the Protestant dissenters of Horsham, for a dissolution of the connection between church and state ; from the dissenters of Preston, for a removal of their grievances, and from Frome and several parishes in Suffolk, for the better ob servance of the Sabbath. Earl BEAUCHAMP presented a petition of a si milar nature from Great Falkirk. The Duke of BUCCLEUCH presented a peti tion from Kettering for the protection of the esta blished church. WARWICK BILL. On the motion of the LORD CHANCELLOR, counsel were called in, and proceeded to examine wit nesses on the Warwick Borough Bill. Mr. Harrison stated that theyhad ex perienced con siderable difficulty in obtaining the witnesses, many persons having left Warwick in order to evade the summons. Mrs. Oram was called to the bar, and examined in order to prove that her husband left Warwick for the purpose of avoiding being summoned. fames M'Dermot, one of the voters of Warwick, 'was then examined, and at the conclusion of his evi dence, their lordships resumed public business. A number of petitions were then presented, but from the noise occasioned by the noble lords leaving the house we could not distinguish in the gallery what was their prayer, or from whence they came. Order having been a little restored, _ _ Lord PL UNK ET said he rose for the pur pose of laying a bill on their lordships' table, to alter and amend the practice of the Court of Chan cery in Ireland ; and in so doing, though he would not trespass long on the patience of the house, yet he felt convinced it was his duty shortly to state the nature of the principal clauses of the bill. He had not felt it necessary to make any statement to the house on giving notice of his intention to bring in the bill, because his noble and learned friend on the woolsack had for merly introduced nearly the same amendments into the practice in the Court of Chancery in Eng land, which it had been found had very greatly reduced the expense to, and saved the time of, a suitor in that court. The bill then presented would have the effect of assimilating the practice in both countries, and would tend much to shorten the very great delay that was now necessarily incurred,' and would also very much lessen the needless expense that a suitor was now obliged to incur before bring ing his case before the Court. ( Hear.) He had communicated the heads of the bill to a noble and learned lord opposite (Eldon), who had most obli gingly approved of it, and therefore he had the more confidence in -bringing it before the house. The first clause of it went to repeal fit processes that were now required to be gone through before a phintiffs case was brought before the Court. They were perfectly ima Binary processes, and of no use, but cost the plantiffs from 30/. to 40/. before he had his case before the court. The object of the first clause was to enable a party being defendant to enter an appearance within a few days after the issuing of the summons. The second clause related only to the entering of appearances, where service had been made. The third clause would have the effect of taking away a considerable expense on petitions and motions of course. The expense of presenting petitions was at ' present very heavy—the cost of getting a side bar motion being not less than 2/. or 3/., which would in future be saved to suitors. Then he proposed to dimi nish a great deal of the delay that now occurred to the unfortunate suitors. He next intended to make an exemPlification unnecessary with regard to sales— to do that which was not done by any English bill, viz., to extend the powers of receivers ; to provide for the oaths that were necessary to be taken by various officers ; to provide for the adjudi cation with regard to costs ; and to alter and amend the rules and regulations of proceedings before the various officers of the Court of Chancery. The noble and learned lord said he had stated the topics thus hastily, promising that on the second read ing of the bill he would go more fully into all the details. He then moved that it be read a first time. The bill was then read a first time. Lord PL UNK ET again rose. He said that when on a former day he gave notice that he should to night be contented with moving the first reading of his bill, he stated also that he should avail himself of that opportunity to make some observations which, although not strictly belonging to that mea sure, he trusted to the indulgence of their lordships to be allowed to state, as they were concerning a matter personal to himself. He, however, felt , that he owed no apology to their lordships in claim ing that indulgence, for he conceived that he should rather have been called upon to ask forgive ness of the house if he had not brought forward some observations on the subject. Many remarks had been made of a harsh character, he must caH.them, respect ing him in another place. He did not complain, because he felt he had no right, of those observations, however he might smart and feel wounded by the manner in which they had been made, for it was the privilege and the right of any one to make remarks on any public officer. ( Hear, hear, hear.) It was intended that an individual who had been made the object of an attack should be anxious for an opportu nity of making some observations in defence of himself. He was not ashamed to say that he had felt deeply wounded, and had been suffering more than he could express to their lordships, and more perhaps than belonged to the nature or the degree of the attack that had been made upon him, since the first moment that he had heard of its being made. He considered their lordships were entitled to say tht,t the character of public men was public property, and that, independently of the situation which he had the honour of holding under his Majesty, and the place which he had the honour of filling in that house, would make their lordships anxious to hear whether the motives which had been imputed to him, a member of their lord shins' house, which would make him unworthy of holding a place in it, were true or not. ( Hear.) The charge which had been made against him he was under the necessity of particularly stating. Although he would not unnecessarily oc cupy a moment of their time, yet he considered it necessary to make the present subject fully under stood. The charge that had been made against him some two months back in another place was this, that, having been a member of a commission which had been issued in Ireland in the year 1830, for the purpose of inquiring into certain points which were the subject of the commission, as to the propriety of disuniting certain parishes or other ecclesiastical offices, and also for other objects mentioned in the commission he had alluded to, he had, as a member of the commission, in April, 1831, signed the report recommending the disconti nuing the deanery of Down and Raphoe ; and that, being fully aware of this recommendation of disconti nuance, he solicited the deanery of Down from his noble friend at the head of the government ; and that he ( Lord Plunket) concealed from him that any such re commendation of discontinuance had been made by the commissioners. He need not tell their lordships that when such charges had been made against him he felt shame that any one should bring such accusations against him after upwards of thirty years of public life, and he hoped that he might say which he had passed through ,without a stain on his character. Such charges were entirely void of fact. It might have been supposed, therefore, that they originated with persons without consideration, but he regretted to say that they had been made against him by persons in high station. His character had been defended by his friends in the other house. After what had taken place elsewhere, and after the vindication of his friends in that place, he, perhaps, was not called upon to do more than give a simple denial of the facts, and no further assertion, perhaps, was ne cessary than his denial of the accusation on the word of a gentleman. But he was not satisfied with that ; but he felt called upon to examine at some length the nature of the charges against him. In the first place he did not know when the deanery of Down was con ferred on his son, and which he had never solicited, that any such recommendation as had been stated had been made. He had never signed any such recom mendation, and he had no reason to believe that any mash recommendation had been made in the report. The next point of the defence which he had to make was that as soon as he heard that there was such re commendation in the report (and the report was made in April, 1831, and the circumstance came to his knowledge in July, 1832) he instantly came forward, and said that the government should not be embar rassed in consequence of such appointment bei,4g conferred on his son, and therefore took upon himself to resign the office on the part of his son. 'The first part of his defence was connected with the re port of the commissioners, and the part he had in such report. At the time the accusation was first made, he thought • that he had not signed any such recommendation, and he found that he had not done so. If any noble lord was disposed to see what he ( Lord Plunket) really did sign, he would refer him to the report of the commissioners, printed by order of the House of Commons. The Report was dated the 18th of April, 1831, and the warrant appointing the commission was issued in the October preceding. The report occupied only a few pages, but the body of evidence and other documents filled a folio of 618 pages. He was no party to drawing up the report ; he had nothing whatever to do with the Appendix ; and to no part did he subscribe his name but at the end of the first sixteen pages, namely, to the preliminary report. This report was signed by seven commissioners, of whom he was one. He had to state to their lord ships that it appeared on the face of the report to any person who would examine it that it contained not a single syllable with respect to the deanery of Down. There was not a single syllable with respect to any special discontinuances or separations. There was a recommendation in the report to which he thought it proper to refer, namely, that on vacancies arising in certain livings united in the diocese of Armagh they should be separated. No names, however, were men tioned. The report also recommended that an Act of Parliament should be introduced and a general measure framed to carry into effect a plan for the separation of the unions ; but before this step was to be taken addi tional information was to be required. He (Lord P.) certainly signed the preliminary report. He did not, however, see the Appendix to the report, which was signed by three of the Commissioners, but not by himself. There was nothing that brought it to his mind that he had seen the Appendix, and indeed he was convinced that he had not. He had not been placed in the commission as Chancellor of Ireland, be cause he was not in office at the time the commission was appointed. He was not a member of the govern ment at the time, but was requested to allow his name to be introduced, and to attend the commission. He assented to the request. The preliminary report was read at a meeting of the commissioners which he at tended, and he in the first instance refused to sign it. He did so because his duties in the Court of Chancery had prevented him attending the commis sion and making himself well acquainted with the sub ject, and he objected to sign it without evidence. The first charge brought against him was that he had read a report which he did not sign ; but the present charge was that he had signed the report without reading it. His objections were met by some of the commissioners for whom he entertained great respect, who said that his not signing it might lead to the presumption that he did not approve of it ; and it was also pressed on him that by merely affixing his name to the report he was not pledged to all its details. He was at last induced to sign the report, but he did so without reading the ap pendix of 600 pages. He was induced to sign it in consequence of the high opinion he entertained of the characters of the very distinguished persons the framers of the report, who recommend in it the adop tion of certain general principles. Of those principles he approved, and he was anxious not to throw any im pediment in the way of those recommendations. The charge then against him was, that he had concealed that from the knowledge of his noble friend ( Earl Grey) which he (Lord Plunket) could not by any possibility know. His defence was that he did not know of the existence of the application of the recom mendation in the appendix. From the period when the report was laid on the table, in April, until six months after his son had been appointed, he was not aware of the recommendation in the Appendix as to the discontinuance of the deanery of Down. The first document to which he should refer was a letter from the Primate of Ireland of the date Bth March. On hearing I the charges made against him be (Lord Plunket) 1 wrote to the primate on the subject. His grace was pleased to say that to the best of his recollection, he ( Lord Plunket) did not take an active part in draw- 1 ing up the report, nor did any conversation take place in his presence likely to lead him to a knowledge of 1 the recommendation of the commissioners with respect to the deanery of Down ; that the appendix, in which this recommendation was, had been drawn up by the bishops of Down and Cloyue and himself (the Arch bishop of Armagh) ; and that it was not discussed before the commissioners. The preliminary report was drawn up by the Bishop of Down and another person, and some alterations were made in it at the recommendation and suggestion of the. Master of the Rolls and Dr. Ratcliff, and it was read at a general meeting of the commissioners, at which he believed the noble lord (Plunket) was present. He (Lord Plunket) wrote another letter to the Primate as to what occurred at the meeting of the Commissioners when the report I was read, and his Grace in his answer said that he 1 perfectly recollected that he (Lord Plunket) declined to sign the report for the reasons he had stated. The noble and learned lord then proceeded to state that he 1 had also written a letter to Dr. Ratcliff on the subject, and that gentleman in his answer also said he perfectly recollected that he ( Lord Plunket) refused to sign the draft of the report in the first instance, and that he did not do so without much persuasion. The Se cretary of the Commission also stated that he perfectly well remembered that the noble and learned lord had refused to sign the report, because the business of the Court -of Chancery had prevented him attending to the Commission. He now came to what took place in July, 1832. A right hon. gentleman in the other House of Parliament stated that he (Lord Plunket) had stated before that the Chancellor of Ireland was one of the Commissioners who had recommended that the deanery of Down should not be filled up in case of a vacancy, and yet, notwithstanding this recommend ation, he had got his son appointed to it, and the right hon. gentleman called upon the right hon. Secretary for Ireland for an explanation. His right hon. friend (Mr. Stanley) informed him of this. He ( Lord Plun ket) instantly declared to his right hon. friend, as he stated to their lordships, that he was altogether igno rant of any such recommendation in the report of the Commissioners, and declared that he would not suffer the Government of the country to be in the least de gree embarrassed on his account, and therefore autho rized his right hon. friend to say that there was an actual vacancy in the deanery of Down. A statement to this effect was made in Parliament, and his right hon. friend said that he would bring forward a bill to carry this suggestion into effect. Shortly after this the right hon. Secretary brought in a bill for the pur pose, and after that he ( Lord Plunket) was not more concerned in the matt& than any other member of his Majesty's Government. It was not till the 13th of March that the charge that he had alluded to had been made against him. He was as much surprised at hear ing such a charge brought against him as any of their lordships would have been at a similar charge. ( Hear, hear.) The matter had been completed, and the . re sult was that his son had given up the deanery of Down. He ought also to state that when his son ac cepted of the deanery, he gave up a living which he held of 1,2001. a year, and that by the result he would be a loser of some hundreds a year. (Hear, hear.) He did not bring any charges against those who ac cused him, but he felt called upon to vindicate his character, which he trusted he had done to the satis faction of their lordships. ( Hear, hear.) Earl GREY could not refrain from adding a few words to what had fallen from his noble and learned friend. Any person who knew his noble and learned friend would be satisfied with simply hearing him de clare that the charges made against him were without foundation ; but all those who might have felt disposed to entertain an unfavourable view of his noble and learned friend's conduct, in consequence of the charges made against him in another place, must now be sa tisfied with the mode in which he had explained the transactions, and which must for ever completely re lieve him from the accusations that had been brought forward. After what his noble and learned friend had stated, he ( Earl Grey) was anxious himself to state what had passed in his knowledge, and the whole share that he had in the transaction. His noble and learned friend had - satisfied the house that he was ig norant of the recommendation of the commissioners at the tithe the preferment was accepted by his son ; and he ( Earl Grey) could also say that he was ignorant of any such recommendation. He thought that he was justified in recommending the gentleman in question to the preferment, because, in the first place, he was a person fitted for such preferment, and next, because he believed that it would give satisfaction to his noble and learned friend to nave it bestowed on his son. He did not feel it necessary to do more than observe that the preferment was given unsolicited by his noble and learned friend. ( Hear.) As it had turned out, his noble and learned friend's son had lost a valuable ing by obtaining the preferment. .He -felt bound"to state what he had in justice to his noble friend; and his confidence in the integrity and purity of conduct of his noble friend had been confirmed by what had taken place. ( Hear, hear.) The Earl of WICKLOW hoped that some time would elapse before the second reading of the bill the noble and learned lord had that night laid on the table. Lord PLUNKET did not anticipate that there would be any considerable opposition to the measure. He was anxious, if possible, that it should pass before the 22d of May, when he should be obliged to leave for Ireland. He would propose the second reading for Tuesday. The Earl of WICKLOW thought that time should be given to send the bill to Ireland, where it would be properly examined. At the suggestion of the Earl of WICKLOW, it was finally agreed that the bill should be read a second time on Tuesday next. One or two private bills were then advanced a stage. WARWICK BOROUGH BILL. The examination of witnesses on this bill was then resumed. The first witness examined was John M'Donough. Michael Connell was next examined, and having withdrawn from the bar, The Earl of D URHAM said he was informed that their lordships' messenger had met with some obstruc tion in his attempt to serve process on a person named Dean and other witnesses in Warwick. Mr. Butt, a messenger, was called to the bar, and read an extract from a letter written by his son, acting as his deputy in Warwick. It stated that the doors of Dean and other witnesses were closed against him, and he was on that account unable to serve process. The LORD CHANCELLOR said a warrant could not issue to compel the attendance of witnesses upon information of this kind. It would be necessary to have the evidence upon oath of the messenger him self. The next witness called was Charles Taylor, at the conclusion of whose evidence the house adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, May 9. The SPEAKER resumed the Chair at twenty minutes past five o'clock. MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS._ An intimation was received from their lordships that a bill had been introduced to indemnify such persons as had given evidence before the Lords spiritual and temporal on the subject of the Liverpool Election Bill ; some returns had been likewise made by their lordships. Sir H. PARNELL brought up the report of the Dundee Gaol Bill. Mr. SCHOLEFIELD presented a pe . tition from the churchwardens and overseers of certain parishes in Birmingham against the Poor Laws' Amendment Bill. Sir H. PARNELL took the opportunity of asking the Vice-President of the Board of Trade, whether the subject of the hand-loom weavers' distresses, which had been brought before the house through the medium of many petitions, had been taken into consideration by the government, with the view of devising any mode of relief; likewise with regard to the standard yard in Scotland, whether it was the in tention to introduce any measure on that subject ? Mr. P. THOMSON said, that with respect to the first part of the hon. member's question, it was consi dered inexpedient to establish local boards of trade ; and to the second he should say, it was referred to the committee above stairs. Sir HENRY PARNELL then presented petitions from the hand-loom weavers of Dundee. Mr. FA Z AKE RL E Y presented a petition from the Dissenters of Peterborough, complaining of grievances, and praying redress. Mr. HUTT presented a petition from Kingston. upon-Hull, praying for a revision of the duties on teas. POOR LAWS' AMENDMENT BILL. Petitions were presented against the Poor Laws' Amendment bill by Mr. Watson, from the corporation and guardians of the poor of Canterbury; by Mr. Bar nard from the churchwardens of the parish of St. Paul, Deptford ; by Sir J. Scarlett, from the guardians of the poor of the city of Norwich ; by Mr. Young, from the parish of St. Anne, Limehouse; by Mr. William Brougham, from the parish of St. Mary Magdalen, Bermondsey ; by Sir Samuel - Whalley, from the parish of St. Pancras ; by Mr. Clay, from the churchwardens of All Saints, Poplar ; and from the parish of St. John, Wapping, praying that the bill may not pass, and that if it do pass, that they may be exempted from its operation ; and by Mr. Hum phery, from the parish of St. Olave, Southwark. Mr. F. BUXTON presented a petition signed by 220 Clerks of the Ordnance, and another from the Clerks of the Admiralty, relative to the superannuation pen sions. Mr. LENNARD brought in a bill to amend the act of Ist and 2d Will. 111. relative to the game laws. —The bill was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on Wednesday next. HAND-LOOM WEAVERS. Lord NORRE YS begged to ask the lion. member for Lanark (Mr. Maxwell), on behalf of the hand loom weavers of Bolton, when he intended to present the petitions from that body with which he had been intrusted, and also when he intended to bring the case of the hand-loom weavers under the consideration of the house ? • Mr. MAXWELL thought it right to state that he would feel it his duty to bring the question forward whenever he could get an opportunity. The SPEAKER said the only thing clear was that the hon. member had not that opportunity now. ( A laugh.) Mr. MAXWELL said that nearly 200,000 hand_ loom weavers had petitioned that house, and if the government wished to stand well with the poor, as well as with the rich, they would afford him an op.. portunity shortly. ( Hear, hear.) Sir J. HA N .ME R presented petitions from Shrews bury, praying for the better observance of the Sabbath. TITHES (IRELAND). Mr. SHAW said, that as much anxiety existed as to the Irish Tithe Bill, he begged to ask the right hon. gentleman, the Secretary for Ireland, when his Majesty's government meant to bring forward that bill? He also begged to ask another question, whether or not the right hon. gentleman and his Majesty's go vernment did not stand pledged to the main proposi tions of that bill as it at present stood ? Mr. LITTLETON said that the first reading of the bill pro forma stood for yesterday, and if the house would permit the second reading to take place to-night, and the bill to be committed, with the understanding that the discussion upon it should not take place till after next week. He would have no objection to that course being taken. As to the second question that had been put to him, it was one so vague in its nature that he scarcely knew how to answer it. It was certainly the intention of govern ment to adhere to the main provisions of the measure, but he should have no objection to adopt such alivera tions as might be pointed out, provided those altera tions did not injure the principle of the bill. TRADE WITH PORTUGAL. Upon the order of the day being moved that the whole house do resolve itself into a committee upon the bill for the reduction of the Four per Cent. Annuities, Mr. ROBINSON rose to move an amendment. He wished to know if it was the noble lord's intention to deprive him of the opportunity of moving for the production of certain decrees that had been promulgated by the Portuguese Government most in juriously affecting the commercial interests of this coun , try ? He was sorry to obse rve th at t h e no bl e lord sm il e d ' at the bare mention of this subject. ( Hear, and laugh : - ter. ) He had done all in his power to have an oppor tunity afforded to him to make this motion. He had not only made many attempts in the house, but had asked the noble lord for his permission to do so in private, but both ways he had only been able to get answers in the negative, notwithstanding this inquiry affected one of the most unexampled proceedings that had ever taken place in diplomatic intercourse. Lord ALTHORP complained that the amendment had no relation to the original motion. Mr. ROBINSON said, that from what he had been able to hear of what the noble lord had said lie was sur prised that the noble lord should have expressed him self so disingenuously as he had done. Undoubtedly nothing could be a more inconvenient course than the one he was proposing to take, but what alternative had he ? no neeeasity that that amendment should le.akin to the motion. Mr. ROB IN SON put it to the opinion of the house, whether, as the Speaker had decided upon his right to bring forward h:s motion, he should not be allowed to do so ? The present was a case of pressing importance. The government of Portugal had issued the decree by which the commerce of this country was placed upon a less advantageous footing than it had been for the last 25 years. He did not deny that the Portuguese government had a per fect right to do as they had done ; but he looked upon it, as far as the government of that country was concerned, as a most ungrateful and extra ordinary act, considering that it owed its present stability to the moral countenance given by this govern ment. He could not, however, help stating his con viction that this calamity was owing to the English government. In 1831 the noble lord opposite came with his budget, and proposed an equalization of the new duties, and to that most uncalled for and most injudicious piece of legislation lie attributed the present act of the Portuguese Government. He had foretold what would be the result of that measure. It was, ho (Mr. R.) then stated, very probable that during the government of Don Miguel it would do no injury, but the moment there was a constitu tional government the trade with Portugal was lost. There were three advantages proposed to arise from the equalization of the wine duties, one was that the revenue would be increased—it had been diminished ; another was, that the consumption of French wines would be increased—this had also diminished, and he would ask what had become of the boasted reciprocity on the part of the French government ? They had di minished the duty upon coals and cotton wool, but so far from promoting the manufactures of this coun try, it was solely intended to promote their own. Nobody had admitted more than he the advantage of a good understanding with France, but Government was taking a course quite contrary to it, and to commer cial intercourse with all other countries. ( Hear ) Did the noble lord imagine that the inhabitants of this country were to submit to the non intervention system, which was alike disgusting to both parties in Portugal ? He supposed they would hear by and by of some treaty which was considered a sufficient apology for the conduct pursued. He cared ni4 whether Don Miguel or Donna Maria reigned, but he believed the noble lord wished to make Donna Maria a mere puppet. He had every personal respect for the noble lord, but there never was a weaker mea sure brought forward than that of the equalization of the duties on wine. ( Cries of " Hear, hear.") He did not know that he could take any other course, then move for the papers, which would throw a light upon the whole question. He did not deny that there was an elasticity about British com merce which would carry itself on, but the question was not whether it would continue with Portugal, but whether it could be continued with advantage. He gave every credit to the Vice-President of the Board of Trade, for the manner in which the business was carried on at his office, but every communica tion was passed through the soporific fingers of the noble lord, so that it went quite harmless and feeble to our ambassadors. The noble lord ( Palmerston) was well skilled in diplomatic intrigue, and no doubt on this occasion thought him (Mr. Robinson) the greatest bore in the house. (Great laughter.) He would not detain the hipse, but move for copies of the correspondence between the authorities of Portugal and the Secretary of State for the Fo reign department ( Hear, hear) respecting the decree of the Queen of Portugal on the equalization of the duties on wines. Mr. G. F. YOUNG seconded the amendment.' The question being put, Lord PALMERSTON said the hon. member's charges against him were most unfounded ; indeed to accuse any person holding the high office of Secretary for Foreign Affairs even with indifference and inatten tion to foreign affairs was to accuse him of want of common sense, and the imputation did not say much for the common sense of any one who could make it. He denied any indifference to the least details of the busi ness intrusted to him ; on the contrary, his whole time was taken up in the duties of his office. To come to the ques tion. (Loud cries of Hear, hear.") The only real ques tion was as to the decree alluded to having been made by the Portuguese government without previous intimation being given to this country. (Hear, bear.) He admitted that - notice had not been given, as might have been ex pected ; he did not intend to stand forward to defend the ministers of Don Pedro where they did wrong, any more than he had defended the ministers of Don Miguel where they had done wrong. He had no hesitation in saying that the Portuguese government ought to have given due no tice to this country of the intended decree ; but with refer ence to the decree itself, he did not think the change it effected would be prejudicial, to the interests of the country. (Hear, hear.) The only branch of commerce at all likely to be effected by the change, was that in which, as he understood, the hon. gentleman was interested (A laugh ), the Newfoundland fish trade. It would be recollected, that although in Spain for some time past we had had to compete with every other nation, we bad kept up our trade there. - Mar. has alen off r.ROfBIINSONon—e-Ihnal. ( H th f e lastear2o, bar. ) years our trade with Spin Lord PALMERSTON resumed—With reference to the decree, he said there was nothing in the treaty of 1810 which gave England a right to object to the change effected by the decree, whether we had intimation of it or not. The hon. member had described this as another instance of the way in which this government were im posed upon by the arts of the French Ambassador. He (Lord P.) would venture to say, however, that the French Government had been taken quite as much by surprise at the announcement of this decree as had the English Government. The hon. member was equally mistaken in his assertion that the French Government were making no advances towards liberal commercial arrangements between the two countries. The hon. gentleman must have heard of the report made by the Chamber of Commerce to the French Government, in which they strenuously recom mend many very liberal arrangements as to the duties im posed on mutual commerce. ( Hear, hear.) He should have no objection to produce the decree, or the papers connected with it, but the hon. gentleman gave no specifi cation of any other papers he wanted. Mr. BAKING said that, however the noble lord might view the matter, it appeared to him (Mr. Baring) that the hon. gentleman was entitled to the thanks of the country for bringing this question forward; and he was only surprised that it had not been mooted before. The objection which the noble lord had to its introduction was the absence of any thing like a tolerable answer to the hon. gentleman's motion, as clearly appeared from the fact that after beating about the bush for fifteen minutes, the noble lerd, in the remaining five, gave no answer at all to the purpose. ( Hear, hear.) As the hon. member had stated, no one disputed the right of the Portuguese govern ment to make the decree ; but the question was whether the British government had been dealt with honourably or properly in the affair, and whether it was incumbent on us to tell the Portuguese government that it was our opinion the people of this empire wished very much to know on what principle it was that money and strength had been expended in carrying on the long protracted and very uninteresting contest in Portugal ? (Hear, hear.) As far as could be ascertained, the interference of this government was altogether uncalled for by the great body of the Portuguese nation, whose general feeling was that the war, so destructive to the interests of that country, would long ago have been put an end to but for the in trigues and interference of the English administration. That very morning it was announced that four powers --England, France, Spain, and Portugal—had made a treaty for the purpose of settling the affairs of Portugal, that very morning arrived the intelligence of this decree, which so materially injured the commercial interests of Great Britain. He (Mr. Baring) did not care one straw which of the Dons sat on the Portuguese throne ; all he had to say about the matter was this :—lf one Don was fa vourable to British commerce, and the other was hostile, he would say, let the former Don " reign for ever." ( Hear, hear, and a laugh.) The noble lord had confessed the whole of his hon. friend's case, without offering any sa tisfactory answer. He certainly must confess that, what ever might be the noble lord's diplomatic talents in other matters, the commercial interest of the country had very far from prospered under his superintendence. (Hear. ) If the noble lord were not the most inefficient, he was, at any rate, the most unfortunate man that had filled the Se cretaryship for many years. ( Hear, hear, and a laugh. ) Was the noble lord aware that, while he had been absorbed in the miserable intrigues of Belgium, Prussia and Ger many had entered into a treaty (the Prussian Custom Re gulations) which had the effect of shutting us out of those countries? (Hear, hear.) Here was another great branch of British commerce ruined through the negligence of the Minister. This was not the only case in which the foreign policy of Ministers had been absurd and mischievous. He had occasion last year to make a representation to the house with reference to the conduct of the French, who appeared to be on the point of getting the monopoly of the Channel fishery by driving every English fisherman away. (Hear. ) Lord PALMERSTON said the French government had denied the facts charged. Mr. BARING said, if he was rightly informed, no grea, time had passed since fourteen p oor E ng li s h fisher men's vessels, which had drifted on the French coast,were seized and carried into Granville, although French vessels coming to our ports were always well received. Lord PALMERSTON said the Frenchgovernment de nied the truth of this statement. Colonel EVANS rose to order. He apprehended that if the subject on which the hon. member pro posed to move was in relation to the motion already made for the house resolving itself into a committee, he should have a right to proceed, but that if it went to the passing of a censure either on this or some other Government, he could not be entitled to precedence. The SPEAKER said that if the question was put to him, he was bound to decide it. Accord ing to the forms of the house and parliamentary law, any gentleman was at liberty to tnove an amend ment upon any question before the house, and there was Mr. BARING said no doubt the French government denied it, and if the noble lord waited till that govern ment confessed to having done wrong, he would have to wait long enough. The head of the Board of Admiralty must know that the refusal of government to afford pro- tection to our fishermen in the Channel,hadalready thrown ! what were considered unfavourable conversiOns eg almost all the Channel fishery into the hands of the Dutch • Cents. into Life Annuities. and French fishermen. . (Hear, hear.) He (Mr. Baring) Lord ALTHOTeP, in reply, :poke in so low had been down to Colchester to make inquiries, and he that'we heard Ithervery imperfectly. We t uiders' spoke of the s e facts with certainty. i to say that it was riot the intention of Governuli a Mr. POULETT THOMSON said, the hon. member pose a negotiation for a loan for the West indto had attributed all the mischief to ministers not following With respect to them, it had been proP°.-,,ed , nns his advice about the equalization of duties in 1831. What an aegement with the Bank to pay three even that proceeding had to do with this decree, he (Mr. P. dred thousand pounds due to them in A_!=glr, at it Thomson) was at a loss to understand; it was altogether garded the other question, it was tettv, in ~. distinct from the treaty of Methuen. He-regretted what been supposed (it was not proved) ti bat had been done, but at the same ti m e could not but observe life annuities on ages above eighty, the ~ as the that the ministry of Po r t uga l h a d on ly been acting on the : got the annuities gained an advantage. ."' the country same principle which England had adopted for years. We ! periment had gone, and had been proved, bad been • but this .. , had granted no exclusive privileges, and had no right to i rather, if anything, been gainers , he s hould ! demand them. The hon. member for Essex had censured lives not so old. As far as he could judge,a, manner , s h o is m A e laj a e rr st a y n 's ge g m ov e e n rn t, me t n h t o , ttg be h eau h s e e it re ta r d ett n ed ot c t o o me sa t y o i older that i l f ive t s he as tv: e e l s l were selected syeolennetge,derin t t h h e e har us u sat t ., woi 1.! however,those the o p t r ibeenneip principal er r y eas s successful. esosffii this believed,H fa e ilore si,as I svoemryefeaiaseesonveartfioers who t h e wanted publie A f tue because the notiations had not been commenced on an life annuities examined the church-ye-no ° tees I 1 earlier day. lie (Mr. P. Thomson) had devoted some pet isaes to find out those families the inen' seke t attention to the question of the fisheries, and, from his had died at the greatest age, and they then - own own observation, he could _s_peak as to the difficulties Lying member of one of such families. (et I ` . , 7 lin which it was involved. (Hear.) There were mixed was no proof, however, that these lives w i el k !' he up with it, amongst other intricacies, some questions of others. (Laughter.) The first step whc':. e 0 10 I international law, and the whole combined rendered it, as being informed of the effect as regarded tf oal a I he had described it, a matter exceedingl difficult of solu- i was to order that in no more instances r oles tion. No sooner was his noble friend informed of the corn- Ibe granted on lives above 65 years of age , " plaints of the fishermen than he made representations to ; seeking the annuity were himself older. s b e tween the French Government, requesting that some means 1 - Mr. BARING said that the differen ce resu lt th at might be adopted by which an amicable settlement might i picked lives and the ordinary lives gave a ni o OP °. be entered upon. It had been asked, why should we be so : astonishing. He did not see why the sa bot , tins & anxious to form treaties with France, when she showed should not be made with lives of 65 as ha d herself so unwilling to afford us equal advantages? and it , lives of 80. said ' had been added that we had sacrificed our trade with For- 1 Lord ALTIIORP (as we understood),oo tugal to induce France to relax in her commercial system, • government tables had been calculated on but that she would not consent to any alteration in her lives. us l' to'icioen‘vs•-easrt nth fo e r it. i it! c , system. He (Mr. P. Thomson) must on the other hand ; Mr. FOSTER referred to the vario a declare that France had made some very considerable corn- ; by the fundhold ers as a reason why the le' in, mercial advances. An inquiry had been instituted by the I endeavour to re conc il e th emse lves to the ir t Government of France, the result of which was a report, The resolutions were then agreed to, a nt the a l , and already that report had been laid on the table of the ' ing resumed, th e Ch a i rma n brought " the to SC ' French Chamber. The recommendation it contained was was order e d t o b e rece i ve d on Monday n ex aeee ed that certain duties of considerable importance to this coun- on the motion of Lord Althorp, it was 6 try should be lowered. (Hear.) The report further re- : house, on its rising, should adjourn. RILL. commended, that in case the French Chamb: r should not T POOR LAWS' AMENDMES . b ill, be sitting, and it was desirable to make any alteration, the • . Government should have given to it the power of remov- On the the rep. ' ing by ordonnance duties on prohibited articles. (Hear.) Colonel EVANS complained that itti on• motion for the second reading et. this , He would ask was this no evidence of an advance ? Then, would effect a total alteration in the con!' ef t he what was stated on the 'Silk Committee which sat some , years ago? Did it not appear, that the great complaint of . not attempted to wade through the en tlre f t hem a' m uch ° • saton, the the subject, but he had read so 0 ee ls , ihe silk manufacturers in this country was, that they could not compete with foreigners in the manufacture of silk, be- . (erred to the abuses which were first relief' t hese ~ S taten' ev ils cause France monopolized her raw silk ? Now, last year : 'Modes of redress proposed. The ' a nd n' there was a considerable exportation of this material out of . stated to be the system of out-of-doe ja i int France. There were other articles with respect to which the representations of this Government had been adopted. ' 2 ' a - Were s at Iron and cotton twist had been recommended for change. The next defects a the present . t s ystem 1 ,,1 the said to be I rincip oduced by magis te r , a to Several ether articles had been recommended for change. But when he looked at the present state of feeling in France sponsibility of select vestries. ll ' f° eaten - . from the laws of settlement and b on the subject, h e mus t sa y h e was conv i nce d th a t whether other causes assigned, to accouut for the . to ex et, the Government were disposed or not to follow up thatw ere stated raliza • misery which non and •eferre a course, they would be compelled to do so by the voice of nu) •ht not be i , the French people ; the country at large desired to see these would ask, whether these nug , (Hear , be ar ' p e r in ~ principles extended and carried into full extent. eaeses, at least in some degree • Mr. G. F. YOUNG was astounded by the argument they might not partly arise from the u nfair on t he raveled taxation pa if used by the noble lord (Palmerston). The noble lord the poor were treated as reg,ar her the nicuw ie P et contended that, inasmuch as British commerce maintained of general consumption? whether its ,ha f re t _ e ev i a superiority over other nations, it was a matter of perfect b ti y a tsherecorrtslra whethermdonoorhasedine ' portion orathethm indifference to us whether we lost or preserved the advan no't be a s t u tlibute r d t th neglect a the in? ' ..' (Hear, tages that we . possessed. (Hear, hear.) This might be ath • the a o rt oef pp etas'ee' po ints very convenient argument for the noble lord, but the H e poor, on . p d fi dno allusion to the se , on the people of this country—the merchants, manufacturers, and e was surprise to n submitted to the houstt.hey were shopkeepers—he would find, would repudiate it as adverse voluminous reports icould state, that measu re. to their interests, and as very bad logic. He recollected of his constituents ~dim' pposd to the ... that his hon. friend the member for Essex (Mr. Baring) place at the time of the proposed alteration in the wine Whig, Tory, and Radical t vo or three public d also been resent at A pinion e stated, almost prophetically, on the debates which took hadwhich the 0 • t h a t bastard}, al found d i i y i e a at . eainst numerously attended, duties, that he did not expect the proposed change would 1 a Central Board. (n a e ' to - provoke a retaliation on the part of Portugal at that time, it which propose( b - this measure p ! Pr u7t the power only did the house 3 but he had apprehensions as to the consequences in case commissioners its own powfear, t o _ re. These the liberal party ever obtained the ascendancy in Portugal. those f the three Estates of only E m pire. to legislate, but f The noble lord replied that he admitted it was possible thority 0 t were authorised notos this commission man the Vice-President of the Board of Trade also stated Portugal might impose the restrictions anticipated, but he mss oners . and „. ho comp Two bishops, .wo did not think she would do so. The right hon. gentle- , l , i - evv (Hea extraordinary . ...„,,,a , th h ,.. brristers. And was such krainst the bill, but more particular)}' a . e r bean w° l- the correction of the gross that in his opinion no such course would be followed. The this sufficient fur the With regard to what viva predictions of his hon. friend had been verified to the rite a. e s tated to exist? l• f he would on . y , letter. very which wer . d in relation to out-of-door re ie , • r aw a ose time eiven for the (loan, Mr. WARRE wished the right hon. gentleman had re the shortness of the he would move " That there been more explicit as regarded the fisheries. He had said i t , For these reasons of the poor laws re 4 q their it was a question of international law. He (Mr. Warre) abuses in the administration. 1 lative enactment for their was aware of the circumstances of the case, and he would strong and compulsory egis c with that este ', e of observe that he could not see any good reason why, or on rection ; but that any measure, subvers„"hich b utterly what grounds of justice between two nations at peace, the which shall in its tendency local overnment, " the French boats should be allowed to come to our shores and representative principle a gpa cry over . . 1 r from rate-(} tenet cast their nets where they pleased, and our fishermen tend to withdraw all power which sha ll ma d 0f should be interfered with if they cast their nets off the enditure of their own fund§ or the Crown, and ° French shores. crease the influence and power of ht not, in t Dr. LUSHINGTON said that under the treatyof 1815 Administration for the time being, !mg 1 s some eXf the French Government set up a claim to the exclusive nion of this house, to be adopted," unless cann ot right of fishing on their coast. In 1817 the French Go- paramount necessity be made out, c..?.-1---ecs_ouncomists, and t vernment gave them the right to fish within one league. mounted by any means less objectionable, C titution I In consequence of representations made in 1821 to the to the free spirit of the ancient ons then Government, the distance was extended in 1822 to ~ , ,a hns., . six miles from the coast. The result was, that our fisher- Lord ALTIIORP should have no objection to uteri, who had been accustomed to fish nearer the coast the topics included in the resolution of the hon. where oysters were in great abundance, thought they were lint colonel (the Member for Westminster) e (, treated unjustly in being deprived of the right they had proper time for such discussion came; but there w% a e enjoyed, and they did not observe the line, but, when they with in the motion upon which he would content ni t die thought they were not watched, passed beyond it. The with a single observation. The resolution spoke of French Government, jealous of the encroachments, and increased influence which would be added to the, „ bo l t , desirous of enforcing the regulation, omitted no opportu- and Administration for the timebeing. He( Lorde°*ott, nity of seizing vessels within the prescribed distance, what- would only ask whether it was possible that his ‘', l _ e 'l l ottr, ever the cause of their being there, even though they were M nisters would propose the measure now beforett!: , ee e! driven there by the wind, or drifted there by the tide. with a view to any patronage which it might be I e v .'ibeif, . ter) + . la s Such then was the state of the question. He (Dr. Lush- of conferring on them? (Cheers and laugh that the) the ington) had never said a word to the noble lord (Pal- were an •* who thouht so, he could only sa2 . : sense et merston) on the subject; his (Dr. Lushington's) informa- . y notion indeed of the policy "' % and less , , th e a very strange tion did not come from the Government. He had seen s ubject re b el°- b e the papers, and he could say, that it was a complicated and Sir S. WHALLEY had giventhe and t hem h ° e 6 ltcl e very difficult question, involving the right of France to the house his most mature consideration'atedo, decided) b shadtli ) rclea , exclusive fishery of that line of the coast. thought upon the measure, them • As rega 010 ,ent bill. t o f the , o , Colonel EVANS said that our severe Custom Laws, Alinistre g ( Continued laughter.) under which large boats were seized by our cruisers, occa- question of settlement, will't tly rig ht it hill, he did 11 0 i stoned our fishermen to use smaller boats than were used feudal' system, it was P er 2 ; it laf the course he li by the French fishermen, their Custom Laws being more himself opposed to the P. „.,, a r einn:;: otthi b e ae ot fished ; but because of th . P indulgent. Our fishermen ought to be enabled to have rd to the btu onsidered obi larger boats, that they might meet the French fishermen prescribedfor himself eastae ay ia , e e nt it atta ge on an equality. sition with regard to the U iebt of Punish, .A, 301 ( 6 .,,1i0 After a few words from Mr. BARING and Colonel Toes •ectionable, as it took the we b the fe rai " ' the h'• re RENS, the motion was withdrawn and the house went into think himself bound to male delinquent,to throw it upon . e it ) added _ or a t e e a Committee of Supply. must n otice e_,, o `tu n the co delicate the subject, he to the P all '! "1 P REDUCTION OF FOUR PER CENT. ANNUITIES. of supporting her progenryeraiom to profligtahe othe r i the Lord ALTHORP should not have to address the house This was holding out ao infanticide ioino ah jectiooth: too, at any great length in proposing the resolutions which it hand, and an inducemen t s say he from the e .. T h e proe ir a had d twelve n ' Rut the 6 though t 0 was his duty to bring before them. The amount of the regarded the allowance sstetn , he ractice. sou( ' , D, Four per Cent. Annuities did not exceed 10,700,000/., principle laid down second reading,sehlih, he Ira , op; operation could be effected much easier, and the govern- main objection to the entr _ A , a l boar- , , rty, a s we (Ilea r ' e and in proposing their reduction he might say, that the limited a period in which to reduc e it t Y.he bill w _ c ot l if ment would be less inconvenienced in making the arrange- establishment of the central to the P r°l" t he lar d ' the see ,t ment than on former occasions. This being the case, he dent, would-be destrue ofdeseend lapel the t eo unteY , eu tlaY - r e l e thiel bonus to induce the holsters of the Stock to accept his Could the government , „ s detailreoee'sion o cu ..a: cas e , should not consider himself justified in offering any great versive of the constitutoilinthalelibertY terms. In point of fact, he offered no real bonus at all. intendence of this fund In tft of p f v e ' ael , pe r i t e i n al gth - e tio There would, however, be some advantages derived from ; measure out the V r a _ n ances_fa e d on I 'beodied pain placing the amount in question in a larger fund ;it would according to all the et me tv, e (11 , r„" the a ble- laug hter a . be more negotiable arid more valuable on that acCount ; The flannel for the old as the f o on io.th. (Lou') silou ld; another advantage, which he admitted would not be very breadth, just as much . and s tre 7operly, th e % ) ; ie h he opt considerable, was, that by transferring the amount to the depended on his healtn ma naged P al w ith w t i o be al° r i t Three-and-a-Half per Cents., it could not be paid off till To have these matters in the part , e i n itself' , isedh ., f0 ..0 1840. The saving to the public that would result from left to the rate-paYe r s ' w web al e t u la s Y e i d a tenwto. r a d o ad a ; antlit ? ire erF 3 o o this arrangement would be more than 53,000/. a year. connected—a parish ).___ k a in u g g e l:°ttner ':)f tli g e systetn' vhy bol t ' s a '? (. His offer was this—to holders of 4 per Cents., for every a kingdom (Laughter and ronu i a tio . its ee pe . it , ~,, 100/. of 4 per Cents., 100/. of what were called New 3q was greater in wealth r 1 per Cents. ; the New 3% per Cents. to be added to and principalities (Contfintuhe consolidated with the existing NeW 3% per Cents., and greater than that 0 a nnum. ect these. ft', wlt t tli, , the holders of 4 per Cents. to receive the half-year's duced by 50,000/. Perts supp ress his o pint to ,moll one e not to he liable to redemption till the sth January, 1840; parish, by the representative dividend on the 10th of October next,- and the first pay- sioners, in their. repor a , he a s tated aieilegete es? ig el ment on the 31,4 per Cents. in January next. He thought hear.) He doubted, .a e was g oods , fa the ju f : arc e it impossible to make ebetter offer than this. His lord- respect, whether that heed ; vet ' n the übjee ted .eetr al b The ship concluded with moving his resolutions, which were to Rawer proposed to be v i 0„ were a p ° o ° o r ff. r ae te eo o M 3s r • s eat the contra 0 to/ the following- effect:— _ ne e. , at e , .. That all holders of Four per Cents., commonly called of the land, ' they would , repe al a ct rd, a sea' ' , mot' Four per Cent. Annuities, .1826, who shall not signify could not, by a bit of pape r ' this , e t the w ,' m ild lr i t- ii ,li ' their dissent, shall have for every 100/. of the said Four per persons who were to . o _ l 7 l ; w ' but l e jo b t o, on the p . ri1 ,, , , ,i 00 Cents. 100/. of New Three and a-half per Cent. Annui_ reason for their acts : trte , 2 ie 0109 8 iether, if the proyo u s id t , n ot saY th at of Pa r ' assig if , ties, the dividend upon which shall be payable sth January it had yet no motto, the .•:_ eine a toi i , th ,....ke , peinej e l, and July in each year. appropriate. This bill e this a ll' i. '"‘ u a l inter e- o t. " The said new Three and a-half per Cent. Annuities that the rich stone weret this " - was a s n il ' t heir Opel shall be added to, and consolidated with, the existing of the poor laws; but t ha; ss. ° & m ine. hear .) .er e New Three and a-half per Cent. Annuities, and shall not as the poor man who P at . ring t . 4 (Hea r ' he IP' il be liable to redemption until sth January, 1840. vou. 4 o . c itli t t ee' perhaps more, in e ntice a° pal . „ s teal lo f 0 , 0 ,1 , " The holders of Four per Cent. Annuities, 1826, to re- than the wealthier one w e " to be in' . &e ,, aw l, e sr- o , to.. . ceive the half-year's dividend which will be due thereon commissioners, too, t :. we t elloWaneete, et loru t ° h 4g. m e ti ? . . on the 10th of October, 1834 ; and the first dividend— fixing salaries, rates 0 . , t h e kin n _., ena . Sheer , namely, one qua.ter of a year's dividend to be payable one-tenth of the poor-rat e rith ose , , 80 0, po ~, , upon the said New Three and a-half per Cent. Annuities, in the enlargement of w ° , , n eiture °`, w as th e 0 0 , e t , ' i on the sth January, 1835. 4 1 • etc. eere e xegete order and control an . e l ,_ e „be ~ who t ese a pp oe e i .i " Books will be opened at the Bank of England on Another power to which 5 le mouth willel all t h e jeas - h a e jaeh",. I Thursday, Bth May, to Wednesday, 23th May, both days committing to gaol for 0 1 Wile', dire' 10 ey "„bo" inclusive, for receiving notices, ty themselves or their cious to their authoritylfer._ ww I: 11 riog attO utte rV iie 11 . agents of those persons who may be desirous of dissenting. these three commisitt)fre: 1 pettifOg wer e It o t nta sse . •i " Persons who shall be out of the United Kingdom three tails each, with e e Such Pow ers aobte t ,,, a wilegi , hoe, during the whole of such period shall in such case be per- to each. ( ‘ °ll ' °-. 1 liberty. fle o „ e dal' Lu eelie ve - veri ii miffed to express their dissent at any time before the 6th sive of ;CUTlStitUtila „ vi e all in ve ...A N O.! o f ti: i , Julv, 1834 ; and any person who may be in any other part priety of paying the pai s t , i; us toge ther• eeo p'r' e por'• it I s i : of the world except Europe, to be permitted to express of 8,000 or 9,000 o per i the alteratio7 t ea. b t t he e ......tha', as h i l such dissent at any time before the Ist of March. 1835. ever, - that many ) He helieV , t i ( ileam a Y int it e' 41 ti " Persons not signifying their dissent within the pe- good. (Hear, i h m e d ar. done touch ge ts hea r) - ; postpelle`ta the nods before-mentioned will be deemed to have assented. commissioners meliorations ( 14 " o r ' u re we i r- r esul t f j, e 6 1 : Persons signifying their dissent within these periods will led to many n a ion, that if the ril e o , , w0u1i.,115 of the P"11 be paid off in such order, at such time, and in such man- deliberate opi , taer advantaceuegestlu o ld ' „p; next session ! maii o . o f the ' ' t he ' was fl eet eieee ner, as parliament may direct." voluntary adoption a many in far .1 ~a t r s eo et ie On the question being put by the SPEAKER, . live commissioners. (Hear.) In all tint w er 0. 0 rele Mr. BARING did not rise. to oppose the proposition, far, and he thought that AA wit h a li ( ! sri° j . ot- o t which he thought was perfectly fair and equitable ; but lie g° s° ar' invest the Secretary of titan` . , oe a tl..e if a n b a ' or e o r , wished to ask one or two questions of the noble lord. In as to a ircular to direci the ado , P r e l But . a iee .ea ltle a , t the first place, he desired to know whether it was the in- ! I " t t-m is as to the allowance systent; ' lit that °: ho ie 0 0 vei tc ! b "c administr i,,,, tention of the noble lord in the course of the present year t ' VA vital importance, one ,tf ' tnq ; on wj e ic it thr ea i ) ri e,' advance to the West India planters? He took it for f t ' he labouring classes, the e vidence_, ,ain i orr io c - ot de granted that no such intention existed, inasmuch as such !I I minous that the pile of volumes e ni h foot c). „lore time course would hardly be fair to the new holders of this . 1 'n heiht the column at t t • . ose to ° • hat rive i to enter i n t o an y negotiation respecting the loan for the, l b ions were removed, he th f o x. g___ the h wa s 0 0 1 , stock. He also would beg the noble Lord to state )`hat ,the ~,____ o f Common s oug ht 0 1 me asures his Majesty's Government had taken to .top I..i.nuee ffsidlis Of 3 14 so low a' 06 , 4 tualerstood emi nent to le ; India plater; oscd tom ae, iillions five,hl: Llautoffuisna . t.t0231.t0,..;1;i e tb to • partrt's,.. ! v 5 f a r as the coontry his b o l al nrean:l ' e(l °b u ma nn er,ale: e ib dn 3b e s3‘: : their stoc'i of the diffe7, , in beis of o il ,' e d so , s eleete de laugh . ) 00 ere longer eh , he teoll lcef , thoeuold:rnaitio Sh es between It tha t ` l ' >— rest], erioot n be ne en il a l l: ac i e d fou rteralloss o ee:ll::: s ldithu tch • agr eed tl is • piLf , r this bill, e° to rope ,ea - D lie of tit of the repor t! f t hem a-c to o ex ist, wi d ,o , thes e evil' a , to sp# E. e , :i[ll f i s iaret' e( t terrt h il rhno i n) e , eet c ead e o a res N f r ti:til t 9P : l°tltl'i h rt i ;ti n i' e .tb:ll- ati llli'1;6:: , : : ,oilrer°''iirutaeaell:llb°lfl:s j e ' , n i ii : e inn i7t a nl oc t a tdet . I s P l eh u r n fcl un r ion ere i ie e tin was una n T:p inst that P. -- .;ot .ar, hear' ) .to e to deleg a al k- ke power Pou .„ .e. Th es e e°l s ;slate, but a l6° nmission vest, pi hops, two poht:: was such auth'', the gross abe.o, to what was r.r x4 would obj.t.;., doing away. of Chat the esis • laws require! nt for their r e! ostensible vie eoe b iinsic v ot n e t,r mated t te a j; o e f f: t,. 1 e ' 1 )me extrem:;, I cannot be s `4l' a nd less oPt°,o,e ititution of tetion to e hon. an d th e lster) \rhea ow% er ( ke bp