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sical force, in order to restrain the House from exercising its undoubted deliberative rights. The speeches too held out delusive hopes to Ino,ooo enraged and agitated . men, excited by these hopes to petition tile House of Lords under the intimitidtion of physidal force.. ife (lid believe that the country was anxiously looking for Reform—; (Hear, hear, from the Ministerial Bench)—he ad mitted it—(Hear, hear)—and was Witting to go along with them so far as he could with safety to the in stitutions of the country. But from all he was able to learn, he believed that in this town and district, as far 'as the present Bill was concerned, if not a universal, there Was yet a great shrinking from the results that might follow its passing into a law. The LORD CHANCELLOR could not permit what bad been said to pass respecting the petition which he hid presented from Birmingham, without making a few observations as to the convenience of the course of proceeding adopted by the Noble Lord who had just !at down. He had had an opportunity already of deliver ing his sentiments upon the Bill. He had been heard at great length—fully, and with his characteristic frankness, he had exhausted all he had to say, as reasons aglinst the pressing of the proposed measure. He had been answere vho might not be? by other speakers, and to the Ccor non, f 4 of speakers ya L --'• - . y leiu bat urs,,t t o , s , v , ,peech had come to an end.— laughter.) Though it bad come to an em, txtened . and able as it was, what did the Noble Lord do? Did he wait till a future stage of the measure? Did he *delay it till a future opportunity? No—but under .—he (the Noble and Learned Lord) would not say a pretext, but under the form of presenting a petition to night, he made a second speech upon the Bill.--(Hear, hear frota the Opposition side of the House.) The Noble and Ltarned Lord heard it re-echoed by an illustrious Duke, Thi Duke of CUMBERLAND certainly did not re echo nything, nor open his lips. Tie LORD CHANCELLOR then would take for granted that i bad been re-echoed by some Noble Lord or Noble Lords and lie perfectly acceded to the cheer and adopted the princple, because, if at a future time he should find it expe dientto adopt the practice of the Noble Lord, he should eertsnly claim the privilege of doing so. With respect to the te eing at which the Noble Lord himself had declared 150000 persons had assembled, the House of Lords was to condemn the whole because a part of those assenbled on that occasion, or one individual, forsooth, had used extremely intemperate language- If this wen to be the case, what was to be said of the House of L or is, when last night in the course of the debate, lan. guaie grossly intemperate—language which violated every principle of law—language which held out three not merely of sedition, but of something very like it peal felony—(lmmense cheers from the Ministerial sidel—had been used within the walls of that House. Whoa such language was to be adopted in that House . he 'the Noble and Learned Lord) protested against inipmations of unconstitutional proceedings attending what took ?lace at Birmingham, because it was said that one individual had spoken intemperately. It was more fair towards those honest men whose petition the Noble and Learned Lord presented to the House last night, to judge of them by their own acts, than by the strain of asy speaker who might address the House. The very last act of that assembly, consisting of thousands and tens of thousands, was to come to an unanimous resolution not to pay taxes, and devoutly to pray for a blessing on the head of their august Sovereign. He would not follow his Noble Friend through his other observations respecting. the feeling of the B ind-street and SL James's-street shopkeepers, as probably before the Noble Lord was five minutes older than he really was, he would hear petitions presented from the inhabitants of these streets—(Hear, and much cheering)—and if the Noble Lord would only name a few other streets And places, probably by to-morrow petitions would he poured in from those identical places in favour of the mea- Sure. without any being forthcoming against it. —(Cheers.) crime, 'if it were one, upon a whole body for the intemperance of which one individual had been guilty, and instanced the case of the Catholic ques tion when similar language was held, but which did not deter the Noble Duke at the bead of his Ma jesty's Government from bringing in the Bill. He deprecated the useless occupation of their Lordships' time by thus bringing on discussions respecting the general question, on the presentation of petitions. The Noble Lord opposite denied that that general feeling pre vailed with regard to the present Bill which other peoople entertained, but he did not deny the necessity of some Reform. He (Lord Grey), however, believed that a more general sentiment prevailed now as to this measure than had prevailed since its introduction. The Noble Ertl contended that the petition presented by the Noble Lord opposite signed by 800 persons could not speak the sentiments of the wealth and commerce of so great a commercial city, and contrasted it with the petition from the city of London, which he had already presented, signed by 4,700 persons. There was also in the petitions now before the House sufficient evidence that many yn.- sons who would not previously acknowledge those opinions had much altered their tone—(Cheers) —and shown an inclination to acquiesce in some measure of Reform.— (Hear, eahra,d bee n hear, ha r, The Noble Earl next said that h n er.) misunderstood in what he bad stated regarding any proposed alterations in the Reform Bill, he had never stated that he would admit of no alterations whatever, but that he would not admit of any alterations affecting its efficacy, and also that if it were rejected , he never would pro pose one less efficient. But any a lt era ti ons o f th e Bill would depend up on t heir Lordships, and as the Noble Lord admitted the ne c ess i ty for Reform, he should allow it to go into Committee , and there propose his alterations. Many Noble Peers opposed this Bill who assented to the dis franchisement of boroughs gone to decay, assented to the principle of transferring the franchise for large towns, and the extension of franchise in counties. Why that was the v e ry principle of the Bill.—(Loud cheers.) The rest was but a question of degree. If however in the C om mittee they should propose alterations inconsistent with the principles of th e Bill , and make it a delusion on the people, be was determined to oppose them.—(Cheers.) The Earl of HADDINGTON said, tbat the Lord Chancellor had read a lecture to his Noble Friend for making a speech in answer to the debate on the Reform Bill, but be (Lord Haddington) thought that the Noble Earl who had just sat down had been doing exactly the same thing.—(Hear, bear.) With respect to the ques tion brought before the House by his Noble Friend (Lord ViTharnchffe) be thought that the blouse had a right to a 'ouplain that threats had been held out, and that they were not to be allowed to judge of the Bill on its own m erits.—(Hear, hear.) He believed, that although there was a general feeling in f a v o ur of Reform, there were also great' apprehensions as to the result, should the Bill pass into a law.—(Hear, hear.) The Duke of BUCKINGHAM begged to recall their Lordships to the question of the Birmingham petition. He agreed with the Noble and Learned L Id that the sins o f the few were nut to be visited on the many; and it was matter of congratulation to him to hear that Noble and Learned Lord state that what had been read by the Noble Baron was only the language of a single individual ; and he would never believe, until he actually saw it, that any body of Englishmen could be seduced by a demagogue to set themselves in opposition to the institutions of the country. Burt he, nevertheless begged the Noble Earl to take warning by what had taken place at Birmingham, and to recollect that this language had not been held at a com mon meeting, but a Political Union, which the Noble Earl had himself acknowledged—(Cheers)—and with which l i e had himself corresponded.—(Cheers.) With respect to what had fallen from the Noble Eai 1 on Monday night, he (the Duke) had taken a note of them, and they were— ,.Your Lordships must take this Bill"—upon which there were cheers on this side of the House, after which the Nt-ble Earl went on—" your Lordships must take this Bill, or some other measure more dangerous, which you m ay not be able to resist."—(Cheers from the Minis terial side.) Lord PLUNKETT did not see there was anything in the words ju s t quoted by the Noble Duke calculated to call for reprehension. Wh at h i s No b le Fr i en d ha d state d was a matter of opinion ; and, as far as that opinion went, he must say that lie entirely agreed with his Noble Friend. — (Cheers)—and he believed that any one acquainted with the consequences of rejecting a measure safe, just, and rea lsonable, must feel that there would be a demand on the part of the people for something that would be unsafe, un just, and unreasonable.—(Hear, hear.) With respect to ‘ghat had taken place at Birmingham, he agreed that the words quoted by the Iloble Rat i on were only chatleable on Gqe The Mite of BUCKINGHAI4f--4n is o' or three. Lord PLUNKETT—WeII, suppose it 'Were' ao. Upon this the Noble Lord—beange one, two, or even thtlas had acted improperly—not only arrrtigned those, but told the Hotta that there was not only a revolution in progress, but one actnall'i C.7mpleted in the country.—(Cheers and laughter.) This certaitilt tints as magnificent a deduction from slender premises as he had clet heard.—(Laughter.) Loi'd TENTERDEN agreed with tht Noble and Learned Lord as to the danger of rejecting a just vat.rea sonable measure; but the matter for them to consider svaa, whether this Bill was just and reason ible—(Cheers)— dud, in order that they might come to (Nat consideration, he should more the Order of the Day fur res/aiing the adjourned debate. . Earl GREY rose to order. There was a question con cerning a petition already before the Noose; and there were other petitions to be presented. Lord TENTERDEVI had not been aware of that. The Earl of WICKLOW wCuld notojaNi; ead b, their Lotd s hip if there had only F.g-' he Nubia Varian' ; g. ' esic the Noble and Learned Lord 'to be core - ' .41 or at the nirminguarn neetin But 41, whether hig covsespondent had informed iris that 'one of the speakers, afie having adverted to .ItutrydAhavitig rAsdri to pay the ship-trior,ey, hatistated tnat in like manner, he would refuse to pay the taws ; and had then called upon those who would refuse with him to hold up their hands, uprat which the hands of one hundred and fifty thousand persons vrere held up ; after which, be called on those wha would not refuse, to bold up their hands, and there was not one exhibited 7—( Hear. ) He should like to know whether, after that fact , the Millie and Learned Lord should still maintain the peaceable, orderly, and kindly disposition cf the meeting at Bir mingham ?—(Hear, hear.) The LORD CHANCELLOR said, that fiddling could have been more natural than his Noble and Learned Friend's (Lord Tentetden's) mistake, in supposing that they had been debating for a couple of hours without a question before them, for it was a thing that they were in the habit of doing continually.—(Hear, hear.) But it so happened, most extraordinarily, that there was a question before them at that instant, and he should avail himself of it to answer the query that had been put to him by,;the Noble Earl who hid just sat down. His cor respondent, he begged ta say, bad not mentioned the fact just stated by the Noble Earl; nor had he (the Lord Chancellor) heard of it till that moment. He certainly did not like the fact, but what he had to say about it be would reserve for the debate on the Bill. Undoubtedly it was a disagreeable piece of intelligence—(A 'augh)-- but, nevertheless, as a lawyer, he must say, that all those hands might have been held up, and yet he could not say that there was any breach of the King's peace, or any offence that the law knew how to punish. He could not help it. Such was the law. With respect to the " kindly" disposition of the meeting. that was a new word introduced by the Noble Earl. What his correepondent hid stated was, that the meeting was conducted as re gularly as one of their Lordships' meetings—(A laugh)— and that it had separated as quietly as children coming out of school.—(A laugh.) The Earl of ELDON should be ashamed of himself, if after living so long in his profession, he did not take that opportunity of saying a few words. No man could be more ready than he was to admit that a meeting Will not answerable for the declarations of an individu4l; but if holding up their hands, or in any other way, the meeting had endangered the peace of the country, he knew no rea son for believing that they had not already fallen into the situation of being answerable to the laws of the country.— (Hear, hear.) If those statements which had been read to the House had really been made, he would take the liberty of saying, that if those statements had come under the cognizance of the Law Officers of the Crown, and if no satisfactory explanation of them had been given, those au tborities had not done their duty to the country in failing - le crai , Pot this being the case, he was necessarily disposed to believe that there - was some way of accounting for men having presumed to make sue statements. As a lawyer, he begged to apply himself to the Lord Chief Justice of the King's Bench, and to the Noble and Learned Lord who, for so many years, had presided over the Court of Common Pleas (Lord Wyn ford) ; and be desired to know from those Noble and Learned Lords whether, if those hands had been held up in the manner described—and the fact could be proved— every individual in the meeting was not in point of law as much answerable as the man who had proposed to them to hold up their hands.—(Hear, hear.) And he begged to tell the Noble and Learned Lord (Brougham), towards whom he should ever entertain the greatest respect, that that seat on the woolsack would not be a seat which any one could maintain for six months if the doctrines now circulated throughout the country—which were every morning placed under the review of every one—were suf feied to be promulgated any longer.—(Hear, hear.) That was his opinion ; he alone was answerable for his opi nions, and for that he was prepared to answer at all hazards. The LORD CHANCELLOR rose, not so much for the purpose of replying to the observations just made, as for the purpose of preventing his Noble sad Learned Friend under the gallery from answering the question put to him. If the matter in question were an indictable offence, his Noble and Learned Friend might be called upon to try it, and therefore he would at present feel the impropriety of de livering any opinion respecting the law as applicable to the acts done. It was quite a mistake to suppose that be (the Lord Chancellor) had given the slightest countenance to the Birmingham meeting—be merely said that no breach of the peace had been committed. An indictment might be preferred for an offence of another nature ; upon that he gave no opinion—he went no further than to say that no breach of the peace had been committed. The Chair man said it was a peaceable meeting—meaning that there was no riot. Lord TENTERDEN was not ungrateful to his Noble and Learned Friend upon the Woolsack for the admoni tion received from him, but he could assure the House, that even without the admonition he ethould have refrained from pronouncing any opinion, for the matter might come before him judicially; and if his Noble and Learned Friend had not so addressed to the House the necessary explana tion he himself should have felt bound to explain. ILord WHAANCLIFFE and the Earl of DUDLEY rose at the same time, but the latter gave way. The former did not mean to impute the words of the speech to any one but the person by whom it was spoken, or to fix responsibility for it upon any other person ; but he desired to call the attention of Government to this, that if they allowed such proceedings to go on much farther, everything like legitimate authority in the country must cease. Lord HOLLAND—I do not rise for the purpose of calling any one to order, but I would beg to request the attention of the House, in order that I may be allowed to state the condition in which matters now stand. The question before the House is, that a certain petition do lie upon the table, and upon this a conversation takes place. Now I have no intention of snaking observations upon the Birmingliam ^ meeting, or upon Political Unions, any further than to observe, that what we heard to-night is nothing more than a repetition of what the Noble and Learned Lord opposite has often said before on similar oc casions. For example, when the association in Ireland was under discussion, and also in the case of various other associations in other places, he over and over again told us, that the country could not last if such things were allowed to continue. I confess it has always appeared to me, that discussions of this nature will neither redound to the honour or dignity of this House, or in the least de gree assist our deliberations. However, upon that sub ject I will not trouble your Lirdships with any observa tions, neither shall I say much upon any other topic ; but 1 cannot refrain from just noticing what fell from a Noble Baron as to the feeling of the city of London, and which I cannot for a moment allow to pass without registering my di-sent. But as to what fell from a Noble lilaron on the Cross-bench, I will assert that no thing more unjust, more unwarrantable, or more uncalled fot was ever uttered. The words of the Noble Duke were quoted, and what do these words amount to 2—lf you re ject this Bill you will soon have another Bill for Reform, t h o ugh not from the same hands or from the same Govern ment—that would be a Bill in truth more unpalatable to souse of your Lordships, though, probably, more in accord ance with the votes of this H..use. I can think in such circumstances of a Noble Lord or Noble Duke who had previously declared, that nothing could induce him to form part of any Government which sanctioned a measure of Reform. I can now fancy such a Noble Duke coming down to this House and saying... 4, Things are now most too 1 " e " Pe l/ P j „bed hag rfrod ye 0 111 of tr " to - 13 P bis :0 r e l f 3 t he i 5 „ d •e s 7 951 ..... ... ..... S' • ooft or ty h i ; weed ed ' .d, , h e lace , ''' et b iti ' gc e t b , wed 1- i t , the wh i t ) ,ceey ged ebßr4 o ; Orind"r 1 40"119 • 0 ul. r of p of 044 00-er ,„ r of pri t iensl i q' lo fa t coPb:el . a 'off . 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'"" 0 7 the Spirit of the Public Press—through sides of thle4'llaientaries of the chief Periodicals at both .w bi th e th: u t t i°a, so that the Reader obt tins at one and the ta w --fa uutoussion of the topic in Parliament, r a s p . 14 rge dimrinsand pressure of opinion out of doo rs, reriu. of give it the advantage over its co l borat Parlianle °eltig enabled to embrace with the moste a _ __ s_ e "likne e ilist,Y Iteport the fullest account of general Mi ,the! tutelligenee• a Pl)e n eb e on the Semi Reading in the Lards trill Hopi 1 ~ the A TLAS of Sunday, Sth October.' R fie. 1",11 note kept on Sale. 't fort lio n e, Strand. \9. 2100 THE KING'S LEVEE. LONDON, THURSDAY EVENING, OCTOBER 6, 1831. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. (FROM THE COURT CIRCULAR.) Their Majesties arrived at St. James's Palace about one o'clock yesterday in their travelling-carriage from Windsor, escorted by a party of Light Horse. Their. Majesties were received by the Princess Sophia, the ti uke Susiex, and the Duke of Gloucester. Shortly afref tivB o'clock the King ,Helti a Leved M. Zea Bermudei, the Spanish Minister, Was. intfddtieed to the King by Viscount Palmerston, his Majesty's Prinepal Secre tary of State for Foreign Affairs, and conducted by Sir Rbbert Chester, the Master of the Ceremonies, to deliver a letter of Con gratulation on his Majesty's Coronation from the King of Spain. Prince Esterhazy, the Austrian Ambassador, was introduced to the King in the same manner, and delivered a letter of congratu lation from the Emperor of Austria. Afterwards the Austrian and. French Arnhassadors, the Spa nish, Bavarian, Neapolitan, and Belgian Ministers, proceeded to the residence of the Queen, and had respectively audiences of her Majesty, to which 'they were introduced by Earl Howe, her Majesty's Lord Chamberlain, and conducted by Sir Robert Chester. Their Excellencies delivered letters of congratulation from their respective Sovereigns on her Majesty's Coronation. M. Van Buren the Minister from the United States, had also an audience of Queen to deliver his credentials. Their Ex cellencies were most graciously received. Lady Brownlow was the Lady in Waiting. HOUSE OF LORDS, °OWE* B. At Four o'clock the LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Woolsack, together with the Earl of SHAFTESOURY and Lord HOLLAND, as Lords Cimmissioners appointed to give the Royal Assent to several Bills. 'tie Deputy Usher of the 'Mack Rod having been com manded to require the attendance of the House of Com mons, the SrEmma and several Members appeared, at the bar. , . The Royal Assent was then ?Sven to the Bid to equalize the duties on wine; a 13111 to' improve the Ad ministration of Justice in Ireland; a Bill to amend the laws in England relating - to Game ; a Bill to regulate the vend and delivery of coals in Middlesex, Westminster, &c. ; and a private Bill relating to the estates of the Marquis of Bute. Sir JOHN Clot HOBLIOUSE then brought up from the Commons a Bill,, to regulate the employment of ap prentices and other young. persons in cotton factories, &c., and the augmentition of Benefices Bill, and prayed the concurrence of the House of Lords thereto. There were present at the Entree Levee— The Duke of Sussex, the Ruisian, Austrian, and French Am bassadors, the Spanish, Prussian, Bavarian, Sardinian, Neapo litan, Hanoverian, United States, Mexican..Lucca, and Belgian Ministers; Baron Zuylen de Nyevelt, on a special mission from the King of the Netherlands ; Itir. Vail, Secretary to the Em bassy from the United States; Mr. J. Van Buren, attached to the United States Embassy ; the Lord Chancellor, the Lord Presi dent, the First Lord of the Treasury, the Secretaries of State for the Horne and Foreign Departments, tile First Lord of the Admi. ralty, the Secretary of State for -Ireland, the Lord Chamberlain, the Master of the Horse. the Groom of the Stole, the Captain of the Honourable Corps of Gentlemen Pensioners, the Captain of the Yeomen Guard, Lord Hill, Gold S tick in Waiting, the Comptroller of the Household, the Master •of the Ceremonies, Garter King of Arms, and Count Chretien de Danneskiold Samsoe. _ Lord HOLLAND presented petitions . from the Society of Odd Fellows, in Nottingham, and from other places, it favour of Reform. 4111IPICIAL TEETH' -AND FILLING DECAYED V III 'WITH MINERAL SUCCEDAN E UM._ . -1, "NS. j. and J. MALLAN, SUR c •ON-DENTISTS, 9, HALF MOON-STREET, PATR4or%ley, grateful for the high and EXTENSIVE their Pr'resski\r—"E Which has so eminently distinguishedß.tishMe tr, r'e-1 exertions since their arrival in the P ehli, ).beg leave to announce to their Friends n a t n o d rt tle S , r 014,4,, general, that they still CONTINUE to 'llNtti '''CAYED TEETH,with theirCELEB , E ll ' e tki At SUCCEDANEUM so universilly rec2r:_- ,4 ti„ e l by the Fae ltv of Londo n ' and Paris. The . w o . P. - cut th 4 h e IN A FEW SECONDSr,e Ith sl y , te SLIGHTEST PAIN, HEAT, or Praersisdu lisrtiapinngd; f t ° , l ' tri a h , t must EXCRUCIATING PAIN, ,7itt.r-HYpirs; they also FASTEN LOOSE TEETH,' or RISE R D (1 ARISING from AGE, %it,A,--- in the GUMS INCORRODIBLE _B_ll__ 111.6,""(1 NATV . TEETH, from one to a COIV O I_ NEGLECT, ___ 1 , .t ,_ . RAL i'ulJitATr, which are INCAPABLE 4 utoh r . ° N or conßosioN, and liittstvet ' l4 ce of Wires or any other LIGA'I R U-lON and 14q1CZYT,,PURPOSE of ARTICULA TION ofplSCthe and axe d without__ Es, Ai ! 'IV. Charge s as in Paris. _ , N.ll. ~ ' OPerations performed on the Teeth. leort -'ne of the above fir m may :" 1 °(1 iit N o , 58 80ld -street, Liverpool. it ~,,,,,_.....______z_... . be consulted for a ____ -.C:ItlsE OP—LoRD-s—( Th e 1 t° hear ml th eti A , ---------- 110 E and DORMER sat appoitis tozszttoa and Lords Pam) THIS DAY.) of .l ;he he se ii'CALU v HUSSEY. conclusion tr 4: liarre,,gb.of this appeal w.as postPoned 'll to_morrow, in ds:,,Ntleote`;;e‘ernble," which is apwinted h eet v 't - ed sineethe SUftgestion of the Lord Ch .o. a fo n u r . c a e y llo t r h , a w t who h h a a c a i h4 , ,,„e ,,, n10y,„ its appointment for hearing t re 14,st eittebias i ' ... .ounsel, and might theirefo 144 11 ho ne IZT. His Lords hi st to hear it. This apo..' t'iri;in chq, the fGae-rIA-011 or Lord Lynd h h i SHAND. public importance, urshouheld considered the . refere re at th e 4. ch 44 00 ..... a dry sooteAWhilV!lecntiaailr,eooaftoropauri-argument to- Tis_coaeit,,,s wetherell appear e d as Counsel for o the appellant, sq r;;7.l.oitti ?f Whose address . . ills he respo4A, IsicELLC!R, without.c.L. iherlusrhteiipsng)enious 4,4 t ~(1,1,;„ nternt, nrned!ately pr9c into the facts of the present case (Whq ~I'Ve(r, that the most minutelyemwlling to u grve n ,iii h d e g C° m c e as u n n e t: , i''it'l4lBill'at,inever to only g eo rou e"be e fo n re w t h h ie e h ir to iI,W4L, d'ep taken by he Learned Couns el , rds it ap:ea;r:eqdwu.oni ec,eh , /4 , hito recoTn e c" r uid d . ecire7l,oetiest, tfitilr%leUrLeirstifa•aiiengdeission ,of tahmeeclinurLti,s case 1a4h,..P, thoatrl:l;:ed Of Dor. Lushingt 1.1 ~ and he ° w fl o s uld now repeat, that 14,4Iirlr!doii",2!eyer was YaZheeltl to the highl e aths4a,;!lel4l-,4',71)1.e,), who . had acted...llldt!) 'tifsk)A4Z4te:r Ir. tlrstileisogltoul'he aPlMll:'.in9-6-bijr:d ordinary way : hadthe 114° I,tZTitttiegZ;Pia' Zrlr*-hplan--.atioin lileObglu he h ti v „-- ; t ' s hingt., - .."e (lid not hoar hi s cli ° !n we t ho : imp t r lXe r fo rn re, - 1,..%,,,4i_itt1Naj, th'447.4hets ttoh hta;,,e ti , ad d .r2r , t: d ie fr s e ig m ni o n n r e g t of the appeal; 114441.44 Y oa,4insl about 1 cleerka, and 4:•,is Lordship, ar _ a ded the party t e4i eQB., wh on , i, felt costs, eXCep t . as they r eg arde d to .py th e e i , t ti. 4 h, h .,_, ,_ elt great satisfaction in . o_ au .. , Net?: pr,,iii,u oettl incurred, for it was hisf it and his . alop, himself giving l ot% 4a with raelTeal ha 4 been brought,.he 4 th e r... 'Peet to it. His Lordshila IYo uld c therefore re tieourt of Sea. (iiie,clailit Wouklitousee to affirm the decision of the till Mr. CourtenaT , 'IY ie,:',lii?l' the Isioruvsee)thhearestion e Pfecfswtshat costs h ' c i e d r h t e : a t the):,shoolciT,,.' w.hen his Lorclihip would make an r l'4 te .e , lt ai;latclby the party who had so imprope o rly caused `145-rkai ,0 mine before their Lordships. ger i a►Aiourned duritzg pleasure. kttl, Earl Grey presented Addresses from the Guildry Incorporation of, the city of Perth, and the Trinity House at Newcastle, upon the occasion of their Majesties' Coronation. Also the following Addresses in favour of Reform in ParHan:lent, from the inhabi tants of Alnwick ; the inhabitants of Thorne; the inhabitants of the county of Renfrew; the Burgesses and other inhabitants of the burgh of Renfrew; Township of Elderlie, in the barony of Renfrew; a meeting of the merchants, manufacturers, and others (consisting of 1,500 persons) at Paisley; Magistrates and Town Council of the Royal Burgh of Irvine; inhabitants of South Queensferry ; inhabitants of the city of Edinburgh ; inha bitants of Kirklirton; inhabitants of Portobello; inhabitants of Lanark and New Lanark; inhabitants of Kirkkeldbank, Lanark; inhabitants of the village of Inneritip ; he Police Rate Payers of the fourth Ward of the city of Glasgow ; the Incorporation of Weavers, Glasgow ; Magistrates, Burgesses, &c. of Airdrie ; Commissioners of Police, Paisley • Incorporation of Bakers at Easter and Wester Porsburgh ; United Incorporation at St. Mary's Chapel, Edinburgh ; and from the inhabitants of Hamil ton, Lanarkshire.—The Noble Earl also presented an Address from the inhabitants of the county of Renfrew, in public meet ing assembled, on behalf of the Poles. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY presented a petitioi from the Mayer and Corporation ot Lann,earon 'agains the Reform Bill. The Eail of BRADFORD presented a petition 'from Bradford against the fiefotin Bill. fir W. Elioit, Bart. presented an Address from the town of Harwich. His Majesty gave audiences to the Duke of Buccleuch, Earl Grey, Viscount Palmerston, Viscount Melbourne, the Marquis of Lansdowne, Sir James Graham, the Earl of Albemarle, and Lord Hill. At the General Levee were— DUKES—Buccleuch, Norfolk, Gordon, Richmond. MARQUISES—DonegaI, Downshire. EARLS—Wicklow, Gosford, Mulgrave, Lichfield, Denbigh. VlSCOUNTS—Combermere, Sydney. LORDS—Mostyn, Cowley, Maryborough, John Russell, Brownlow. BISHOPS—Oisory, Chichester. SIRS—R. Grenhill Russell , MX., William Chaytor, Evan M. Macgregor, Bart., William Eliott, Bart., H. Williamson, G. Nayler, W. Grant, G. Seymour. Rev. Dr. Nolan. REV. MESSRS—S. W. Cobb, H. T. Turner. MESSRS.—Tracy Leigh, M.P., H. A. W. Fellowes, Etwall, T. C. Grattan, F. G. Ravenshaw, Elliott, Villiers Stuart, Fitz gibbon, Stewart Mackenzie, M.P., Robert Wood, Johnstone, G. M. West, Mostyn, Bayley, Scott, John Frost, F.S.A. ADMIRALS—Lawford, Lambert, Lord M. Kerr, E. D, King, Cunningham, Schomburg. GENERALS—Sir Henry Gray, G.C.8., Sir George Adams, James Hay, Anderson, Mulcaster, Sir H. Warde, Macdonald. COLONELS—Sir Stephen Chapman, Jtavenshaw, Sir Richard Armstrong, Kennedy Clark, Brandreth, - Duire, Grey, Sir John T. Jones, Phillott, Falconer, HAnmer, Arnold, Fanshawe, P. Campbell, Tyte, Pasley, Tremenbeere, Colebrooke. MAJORS—W. T. Tonkin, Diggle, Sullivan. CAPTAINS—Woodriff, R.N., Filmore, R.N., Hon. Poulett, R.N., Sykes, R.N. Nesham, R.N., T. Wilson, R.N., Pell, R.N. Robert Gambier, Watson. COMMANDERS—G. S. Dyer, S. Meredith, G. Hay, Douglas. LIEUTENANTS—Hon. H. Keppel, Charles H. Jay, R.N., Bedford, H. Tause, R.N. The following were presented to the King : Lord Mostyn, on his elevatiori to the Peerage, by Lord Melbourne. The Bishop of Chichester,on his appointment, by Earl Grey. Sir R. G. Rusiell, .11LP.,. on . being . created a Baronet, by Earl (key. . ‘ar;„ 1 ,1„, nnl.„tr. latettLenant of the county of Wicklow. MirqiiiofDonegal, on his appointment as Lieutenant of the county of Donegal. The Bishop of Ossory, by the Marquis of Orrnonde. Sir William Cbaytor, on his promotion to a Baronetcy. Mr. Tracy Leigh, M.P. for Wallingford, on his marriage. Mr. Fitzgibbon, on appointment as Lieutenant of the county of Limerick. Mr. H. A. W. Feßowes, by Lord Ebrington. Major-General Sir George Adams, by Sir Herbert Taylor. Col. Sir S. Chapman, Governor of Bermuda, by Vis. Goderich. Major W. H. Tonkin, Mayor of Teignmouth, on his promotion. Mr. Etwall, by Lord Ducie. Mr. Grattan, on being appointed a Gentleman of the Privy Chamber. _ Mr. V. Stuart, on his appointment to the Lieutenantey of Wa terford. IN 2IN G ON IRISH AFFAIRS. At ~,, ,0t,,,, neh.,,,,. (THIS DAY.) 43 a1a,,,, - •ed wi, -- -,. , tod... -------------- nw - ',., lar d "'i fr et , - .. r, a meeting of Noblemen and Gentlemen ee s i t be a d ' fOr tr i g " was held at the King's Arms Tavern, /'‘. I ° l n l ' t ecl to e PurPose of considering what measures th,,,e,.(ll4..rocittei, relieve the Poor of Ireland, without the ne inet'i'..e wasralial LAillt,9 that country a system of Poor d L s a t z t s c:d :id . Z.. 14: t lif lon a a ' s ank•SFORD took the Chair, a h'iail.l,eeti;ii,;4,,ing,e4id,d in a co y n zr en n e t e o n fo r r a wl r l:tobrect of the 4a, 1 3 t et. .. he 3' ,,,,1, and e t f i alind u a list of names of geiliatrlesmelif li t t. of h wh r g h ; ikhi ch )oi tt Way arixt,4l l l3.. 9f a different line of .. pol a ili e s elin t g h 12ar t oftltley wecrontribtiti,!o divest himself of any poi t 11'4'4"1 * l l ° l Be : " , oitie g d ,o,,, , ad e s e so desirableowanevoelbrij,cectht easmajor t 11fittet- t ales, were not pg's ' ent, l Lord sug- Were ,Wtl , l 3 ort utt ,l l not be better to adjourn the meeting 't4 te 0 * Pr (Q t . a 7 () f it t t Ireia,,seut nark who nis) thought that as many gentlemen ,`o tfl e fi geth e ,."ti, *hets',"ad Made themselves acquainted with the Ole , Do er ' With tt `e famine in that county, and the cause itid*tl ett the ke means of affording sufficient employment ftVitle4h eng a eee lnigs of the meeting could go on. All n ot ~ 1v, , , t) , Of par,Red in the furtherance of this object, acting 4ieei7tit'aecie CllAllivere .., present. A .R-...rUa h v i t , *AN hoped that the word .. e rtk,ritl e g?ear, ) g nothing to do with the objects of the party" would lects .° haol4" gait! th 'i l th4 t a i i h :u g reau at a. society existed in Ireland whose ex- Nge ''c ' e let th° nght Nth hc, , ,,,,,Y.. sh ot , i4 k it Would be highly desirable that the plans Y dir ected towards the effecting such ob- Matt' 'iti•cirnou li e laid before a Select Committee of the ri'at‘ti eontlVt4.--,iti,ear) 11, ..come-..iited. ~. observed there was much jealousy in hse,, s e h. i„ With Ireland • wh,•,,e„, 44/ N •.that e . Which had been the cause of , ieh .h e lAN , oiatry. %es ti iva a h„Wetild said if the meeting were to proceed to f il h e gat r o7 l4 e t r oety t'otartoermthe object of their being now assembled, ' e ess a °I Ir t he be an association for the puse Nr. 4. 3'. eland as at Means of affording such nt for be ta , I,t, would render a system of poorers un Rre a ieti te " ,ks Al 13 e ns e 9 ll s . --, ople` o i.- I complained of the intervening power r t l .o h o l? tr oll ; : s nl onto Ireland and the landlords, which produced !kir Pe for aentee`ithat power was desiroyed, e system ~„ re se4 , _latid. ~andlords done away with, therewould be the,: the meeting upon having sht e v •••••.(4,oW, for htiairman as an example whom it was de iendr.4blC e ti 4r . hea r , e hved in Ireland and spent his income th e c e , t ) l th at ph lattjthYtit 4 siataditiottri,a,tead., of7iicatiaes which afflicted Ireland, and c9n --14°n Member then entered at con- Ale i n of "i the sling po-04a visionary schemes for bettering -4, itu4r,i.,4 r, t vernment should at once adopt heK C'en tle ,„ .. ll Allit'N foil .3.1 d -- oeu —AN „° -, ..b a similar strain 0111.rNateitZere entii•etiatod that the s hes * of the two H9n. busi e 4 then -- (Hea t ,Yof a political nature—a course which r,,,, e ,,,e55, and agreed "all ithootb_e hat S eereta r ; h : meeting should at once proceed to St, i ti our reporter le vy r eading the report of the i ‘K-lIING „'---------••••••.......................,_______ lA TELLyn -------- -----„, —DI - -.--_____ - "" -i NCE—(THIS DAY.) v, -AL , k o rl s,teaA k'7, 4....W.P„a119,A1 Z,Z.,:yi, fia r ,' l 4l lie 4'Aalliffe.'-„,;%8•VV.„-z-:A.- from the river the juietn rr e i n vfd s Land. ped stea:nett tran; po f r i: f., an tailed the Ikl gar "' S e ji l or Portsmouth, in tow of the Con ,Oe, frontil.rtapiej: illOtTiFirtantinor4'•""-Wind W.—Arrived the Ellen, Al c"'ei rall f °el. ' l Wind S. to S.s.W.— Arrived the , LN.‘kiesi tas . rom the coast ofTroy ; and Preston, Houghton, "'eh, c' s ol44 f4l)44.lAgke.,rftotil °Atealia• g3a-•.-Arrived the Sylph, Orlend, and Vau- Ari t *:eni er •7 . ... 9c T. 5....... _ .,5, . Gi lpved the Indemnity, Woodhall, 1,...:0 wt . fro t 7. l *, Alert, Skin, from Mogadore; and oscar, ini a ':• . . r, 0 4 *e eh or , . "` t er ) so .d,N z ba o d Thor bArrived the Lexington, Cowell, from 14. froo t A TE ch t ir. frorn Boston. Geth th.l,oAlexandri Ocr. s . —Arrived the Odessa, Pat /to 44 , fro L , OCT 7 3 ti l ler s ft,020 Labia yr-Wnd S.S .W.—Arrived the Prorates spi.•4',_ l ' .04, 1 " 1 0 „ Odessa' , plavert Barlett, from Vitginia; Sahara', Triu3wer, Larnble, from Gijon. Arrived t il,R, a nd 7 , , , the . Lli ° rt, th r e -Yard ea r. Ph, Green for Bombay, main -mast f/l,„e llcesia Thom away uoth ult., in heavy weather. Stah e lht ` IO L, cc.; son from Jamaica. ca ~ Ist, i t . • 4.—Arrived the Duncan, Gan non, from 4arittite, .Mitchelf,' freittle, Dalrymple, from St. Michael's SolykNocu• Sm y r na' and Sarah, Webber, from liiii, 'PR A *,, Ocr, 3 MPTOI,/, •43-Arrived the Pantaloon, from Demerara. Gf . ,Z u allktets , el'. s. —Arrived the Varo, Neven, from ~._ta. 111 , Oc T . fron t „yvPot tl , • a•--Arrived the Welcome, May, from li°l4vuebee ' °: 5.--Arri ved the Earl and p4....litAt). Bathurst, Smith, • 1.3! arid Susan, o m Charlestoner.: 4 • — • Arrived t he Doris, f rom Montreal ; fr . Lis alto Ear. -..........._.„....--..._---............___ _______ I f —_,_— the in as ° WALDEGRAVE has resigned , interi t • one of the Lords f the h er 1 01 l (as it may ce the Bedchamber, with ora l Bin. be presumed) of voting against • Mr. Elliott. Deputy Lieutenant for Berks, by Lieut.. Gen. Hay. Col Ravenshaw, Royal Berkshire Militia, by the Earl of Gosford. Col. Sir R. Armstrong, 26th Regiment, on having received Knighthood. Lieut.-Colonel K. Clark, 7th Dragoon Guards, on being nomi nated a Companion of the Royal Order of Guelph, by Sir Henry Wheatley. Colonel Duffy, on being nominated a Companion of the Bath. Colonel Grey, on being appointed a Companion of the Bath. Lieut. Bedford, Royal Regiment, on his return from India. Lieut.-Gen. J. Hay, on appointment to the 2d Dragoon Guards. Colonel Phillott, on his appointment as Companion of the Bath. Major niggle, upon being nominated a Knight of the Royal Ha noverian Guelphic Order, by Sir Edward Paget. Lieutenant Hector Tause, R.N., by Sir James Graham. Commander Samuel Meredith, by Sir James Graham. Commander G. S. Dyer, R.N., 'on his . riturn from foreign service. Lieut. C. H. Jay, R.N., on his recovery, by the Earl of Albemarle. Lieut. Hon. H. Keppel, on his appointment to the Magicicnne. Captain J. Wilson, R.N., by Sir James Graham. Captain Filmore, R.N., by Sir James Graham. Commander G. Hay, R.N., by Lieut.-General Hay. Captain Nesham, late of his Majesty's ship Melville. Mr. Robert Wood, by Colonel Wood. Lieut.-Colonel Brandreth, R. A., on appointment as C.B. Major Sullivan, on promotion, by Lord Hill. Lieut.-Col. Falconer; 2'2d Reement, on his return from Jamaica. Lieut.-Colonel Fanshawe, RE., on his nomination as C.B. Lieut.-Col. P. Campbell, on being appointed a C. 8., by Sir G. Elder. Col. Pasley, R.E. on his nomination as C. 8., by Sir J. Kempt. Colonel Tynte, with an Address from Bridgewater. Capt. Woodriff, KN., Royal Hospital, Greenwich, by Sir J. Graham. The Honourable Corps of Gentlemen Pensioners appeared for the first time in their new military caps, which have been ap proved of by his Majesty. LONDON GAZETTE, OCT. 4. (OMITTED YESTERDAY FOR WANT OF ROOM) Lord HOLLAND presented one from Harwich in favour of Reform, and assured the House there was Pcarcely a man in that town who was against the measure- now be fore the House. The Duke of GORDON adverted to a petition which had been presented by a Noble Earl (Camperdown) last night froM Aberdeen, in favour of Reform, and begged to state that that petition did not speak the sentiments of the majority of that town, but that it h a d been got up b y a few persons in the old town of Aberdeen. The Earl of CAMPERDQWN stated that the petition had been forwarded to him by a Noble Friend of his who was absent, and who, in intrusting it to him had assured him it was signed by most respectable individuals; he, therefore, could not answer for the truth of the statement, but he bad reason to believe it was correct, for be saw the names of many very respectable persons to the petition. Lord AUCKLAND presented a petition from Green wich, signed by 2,500 persons, in favour of the Reform Bill. Lord LITTLETON presented a petition from the in habitants of Dudley in favour of the Reform Bill. The Noble Lord said this petition had been most unanimously adoptA, and was signed by double the number of persons who signed the former petition, presented to the other House of Parliament upon the same subject. Lord DACRE presented a petition from the gentry, clergy, freeholders, and other inhabitants of the county of Monmouth, agreed to at a meeting convened by the High Sheriff; also a petition from the inhabitant householders of the town of Cambridge, both praying that the Reform Bill might - be , speedily passed into a law. The Earl of RADNOR, Lord HOLLAND, and Lord CLONCURRY presented several petitions in favour of Re form, but we could not hear the places from whence they came. Lord PLITNKETT presented a petition from Grange Gorman, in favour-of the Reform Bill. The Duke of GRAFTON presented a petition from Ips wich, signed by 1,840 persons, praying the House to pass the Reform Bill as speedily as possible, the petitioners be lieving it to be the only means to ensure the prosperity of the country. The Duke of WELLINGTON presented a petition from the Isle of Thanet against the Bill. Lord I)ACRE presented a petition from the freeholders of Maldon resident in London, praying their Lordships to pass the Reform Bill without alterations. ourrnrr , effect from Bicester, Oxon. WAR OFFICE, OCT, 4. Ist Regiment of Life Guards—Co;net and Sub. Lieut. S. Parry to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Hart, promoted ; G. Tom line, Gent. to be Cornet and Sub-Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Parry, dated Oct. 4. 9th Regiment of Light Dragoons—Capt. H. E. Porter to be Major, by purchase, vice Greenwood, who retires : Lieut. N. Weekes to be Captain, by purchase, vice Porter ; Cornet D. L. Campbell to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Weekes ; A. Little, Gent. to be Cornet, by purchase, vice Campbell, Oct. 4. 14th Light Dragoons—Cornet H. Van Straubenzee to be Lieu. tenant, by purchase, vice C. J. Griffiths, who retires; J. Phelps, Gent. to be Cornet, by purchase, vice Van Straubenzee, Oct 4. 33d Regiment of Foot—Lieut. P. M'Grath, from the half-pay of the 67th Foot, to be Paymaster, vice Heazle, deceased, Oct. 4. 56th Foot—Assistant-Surgeon *. Gardiner, from the half-pay of the 72d Foot, to be Assistant-Surgeon, Oct. 4. 60th Foot—Captain G. Young, from the half-pay of the 68th Foot, to be Captain, vice C. Ramsden, who exchanges, receiving the difference, Oct. 4. 64th Foot—Lieut. D. H. Lawrell to be Captain by purchase, vice Ravenscro ft , who retires ; Ensign R. P. W oodyeare to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Lawrell; W. Lucas, Gent. to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Woodyeare, Oct. 4. 67th Foot—G. W. Nicolls, Gent. to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Ray, who retires, Oct. 4 73d Foot—Captain F. Barrallier, from the half-pay of the 25th Light Dragoons, to be Captain, vice H. Seymour, who exchanges, Oct. 4. 81st Foot—T. S. Perry, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Creagh, promoted, Oct. 4. 86th Foot—Captain IL Johnston, from the half-pay of the67th Foot, to be Captain, vice E. O'Dell, who exchanges, Oct. 4. 90th Foot—Lieut. C. S. Bunyon, from the half-pay of the 30th Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice A. Mackenzie, who exchanges, re_ ceiving_the difference, Oct. 4. MEMOR ANDUM. —The appointment of Assistant-Surgeon Gardiner, from the half.pay of the 72d Foot, to be Assistant-Sur geon in the 33d Foot, has not taken place. Oft- - 'm. The Earl of COVENTRY presented a petition from Worcester, signed by almost all the persons of wealth in that city, praying their Lordships not to pass the present Reform Bill. The petitioners, however, were anxious to concur in any measure short of the present one, which might be brought forward on the subject of Reform. The Noble Earl concurred most cordially in the sentiments of the petitioners, considering he should best discharge the duty by voting against the present m , asure, which would have the effect of overturning all the acknowledged principles of the Constitution. His Lordship had thought much on the subject, and had not made up his mind until after mature consideration. . the Li't OFFICE OF ORDNANCE, Oar. 3. Royal Regiment of Artillety. Second Lieutenant F. E. Wilmot to be First Lieut t a 2 nt. v i ce Kett, retired on half-pay, Sept 2'7. A long and desultory discus inn took place in conse quence of a complaint by Lord Cawdorof the hurried man ner in which, as we understood, the Abolition of Fees' Bill had been read a second time last night, which ended in an arrangement that the subject should be discussed to morrow. . . The Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented two peti tions from parishes in Buckinghamshire in favour of the Reform Bill. The Duke of CUMBERLAND presented similar peti tions from a parish in S:affordshire, and from St. Mary Abbott's, Kensington. Lord KING presented petitions in favour of the Bill, from the Isle of Wight; Chard, Somersetshire; West Ham ; and seven other places. Viscount MELBOURNE presented a petition from a parish in Aberdeen in favour of the Reform Bill. The Noble Viscount also moved for returns relative to popu lation. The LORD CHANCELLOR presented petitions from Cordwainer's Ward, Wednesbery, Staffordshire, Ayr, and several other places, in favour If the Bill. The Marquis of WESTMINSTER presented a peti tion from Flintshire in favour of the Bill. Lord JERSEY presented a petition from Minehead against the Bill. Earl GREY presented a petition from St. Luke's, Chel sea, in which, although they considered themselves to have a claim from the amount of their population to a represen tative, they stated their anxiety that the Bill should pass in its present form, with the least possible delay. The Noble Earl also laid certain papers on the table relative to Por tugal. Lord WHARNCLIFFE presented a petition from Ips wich against the Bill, and stated that althoughit had not been agreed to at any public meeting, it had in two days been signed by upwards of 400. The Duke of GRAFTON recalled the attention of their Lordships to the petition which he had presented from the same town, which had been agreed to at a public meeting called by the Chief Magistrate, and signed by upwards of 1,800 persons. Earl RADNOR said, as the Noble Lord opposite (Wharncliffe) had stated the petition was against Reform, he had been curious enough to read it, and their Lord ships weuld be surprised to find that it merely seriously called on the House to give it their attention, and to take care that the Sovereign prerogative, their just rights, &L.., were not infringed.--(Hear.) Lord WHARNCLIFFE had another petition to present from certain merchants, bankers, and others, of the city of London, against the Reform Bill.—(Hear, hear, from the Duke of CUMBERLAND.) It bad been agreed to at a meeting called in consequence of the rep resentations made as to the universal feelin g in favour of Reform in the city. It was signed by 800 respectable householders, but he would venture to say that it embraced a much greater proportion of the wealth and respectability of the city than the petition which had been presented by the Noble E irl opposite. He would take that opportunity of observing upon the use that had been made of a statement of his, that the feeling in favour of Reform had considerably changed since the introduction of the Bill. When he alluded to Bond-street and St. James's, he did so at ran dom, but he ventured to say, and would challenge. Noble Lords opposite on the point, that if they went into the shops of any part of the city of London, West minster, or the parish of Marylebone, they would find a universal shrinking from the dangers the country was ex posed to by this measure. Nay, further, universal blame was thrown on Government for their having proposed a measur e replete with such danger. People talked about revolution, and if the House would listen to a speech that had, it appeared, been made very lately at a meeting of the Birmingham Political Union, they would find that revolution had not only commenced, but advanced to a certain stage. The Noble Lord then alluded to the speeches of Mr. T. Haynes and Mr. Attwood, and having given a running commentary upon them, declared that they amounted to most unconstitutional threats of phy- 'l jl3 11 0 to stsil ("ti' .. } 6 56 „ .147 U , vcr sir South. Commission by the Lord Lieutenant of the County of Sussex. J. Shelley, Esq. of Field.place, to be Deputy Lieutenant, Sept. 26. Commission by the Lord Lieutenant of the County of ampton. South Hants Regiment of Militia. J. Bennett, Gent. to be Quarter -master, Sept. 19. Commission by the Lord Lieutenant of the County of Salop. South Salopian Regiment of Yeomanry Cavalry, W. Oakeley, Gent. to be Cornet, vice the Hon. G. F. Hamil ton, resigned, Sept. 27. mB'2 11 1 ' fO, '4 ----- J. A. Zwinger, Auction-mart Coffee-house City—G. Cham bers, I3lackburn, Lancashire draper—J. Bell, Oporto, wine merchant—T. Swift, Pine A'pple-place, Edgeware-road, horse- Clerkenwell, oilman-2. Grant, jun., dealer--J. James, Meeting-house-court, Old Jewry, merchant— J- Leeson, Nottingham, hosier—J. Coo Ker, Aylesbury-street, T. E. v‘ i vxt'ord, corn-factor_ - : e-ler, Cheltenham, bookseller —J. Andrew, Notting. ham, money —scrivener. JOHN A N DERsoN, SCOTCH SEQUESTRATION S. at the King's Arms ' ' . ' n J A.MES RANKER, -' . - , inn, frongate, Glasgow. Stanraer, ironmonger, Oct. 6 and thl, Kilsyth, merchant, Oct. '7 and :21, at the King's Arms-inn, Trongate, Glasgow. . tirk --- ..c . -. - -- - -^. -'' ' rz"- ' • . 7-MIMPARIMIIIFFC - . • - alllllllllllll NIA - , --- - 49mmenemowneggpommounumanew _ _ _...„_._ . .. 5 ... i . ~ . • .../ 7 .; .. / /- 7 , ~ 4 - ,------2 7 - 7 -- v/ ,) • • • .. rAREs To ~ . "...---- in . fr, : 4 4,.. I tiptir, EDINEURGII FURTHER REDUCED . . . , 0 -44 4 7 .,....1:r? .. < — r f' r "r - -r-' UNITED KINGDOM Steam-ship, " ' '/':' .''''l —.... !- ..-----, 9 N.-- , . 4 ; • <llll l l / V •••_:",..77,......., . • • (.1 U C:=-- . IL .J , . , ~. hurdled, and 200 horn power, D. ',.":;., Al' . ...,, 4.-.. , ~,, i,. 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But if the associa tion be once formed, you must give way, then there is /linger of war, and agitators are abroad; and I kenaw what war is, and I tell you, you are in a different situation from that in which you before stood, and I will drag you through the mire after having before bespattered you." It is just possible that the Noble Duke might bold such lan guage. Is it not just possible that a Right Hon- Gentle man in another place might say something of the same sort ? He might say "my opinions are not altered—l am really opposed to the Bill, but there is danger, and it i 5 only to danger thet I would yield ; and, therefore, I re- COTIIMPIKI you to make concessions to the dangerous spirit of the times:" Surely, my Lords, you cannot fail to ask yourselves thitt-ais it not much more dignified to yield be fore there is danger than afterwards ? As respects this House, the present is now a virgin question. If you agree to Reform now, it becomes the spontaneous act of this more c I!o use consistent I inqui w re i t ef h tyhoeur dignityLordships,ft h iiss House o o t u s s u e: h a n a d course to prove more advantageous to oursElvee? There is no shrinking from this truth--either that you must take the Bill now, or be forced by circumstances to adopt hereafter • a measure full as efficient, and, perhaps, less acceptable to this House; whereas, if the proposed change be adopted before the danger arises, all idea of int . midation will be out of the question.—(Cheers.) and r n e a D d g u a ke epe of ec W h E t L o L o. l ! N d e G r ;TdiOnrisT.ihileeNoble B' - bp h ion " That the more inciinsistenteiest petition d o l ie upon t e table," the Noble Baron referred to a debate, going practiceof this on, I may say, upon a subject now under the consideration of Parliament; and he also referred to a debate on a subject respecting which I rather thought that, for once in my. • life, I possessed the approbation of the Noble Baron. This discusaleol has now lasted some time ; but, during the whole of it, I ternalined silent. I did not wish to draw your attention to the Bill now on your Lordships' table, upon art occasion merely of preventing a petition. I have not said one word; I have net uttered a cheer during the pre sent debate, and I do not see how my sentiments can with propriety be brought into discueeion. Ido not deny that I always felt strongly the attempts made to intimidate your Lordships; but for that meeting which has been described in• the paper,produced in this House, and for all such meetings, I feel the greatest contempt ; and I am perfectly satisfied that the House is super ior to any intimidstion founded on the proceedings of any such assemblages. I feel no concern for all these t'sreats, whether proceeding from Birmingham or elsewhere. I havi always thought, and I think still, that the law too strong to be overborne by such proceedings. I know further, that there does exist throughout this country a strong feeling of attachment to the Government of the country as by law established. I know that the people look up to the law as their best means of protection, and those lawii they will not violate io any manner to ea danger the Government of the country, or any of its es tablisher) institutions. lam afraid of none of these, but I will tell your Lordships what I itm afraid of. lam afraid of revolution, and revolutionary measures, brought in and proposed by his Majesty's Governmenrt.—(Long continued and enthusiastic cheering from the Opposilini Benahes.) I assert, and I believe that history will bear we out in the assertion, that there has been no revolution in this country, or any great ehanee, which has not been hr /tight ab , nt by the Parliament, and generally by the Govern in,nt introducing measures, and carving tlieua throttle; by the influence of the Crown. I wool l therefore nt/ eat your Lordships to do all you can to defeat this measure— use every m.ans of resistance which the just exe.eis• of your privileges will warrant, and trust to the good sense of the country to submit to the legal and just decision you come to.—(Cheers ) The Earl of CARLISLE said that none of the revolu tions which Occurred in this country were b. ought a bout by Parliament. " He wished to inquire from the N.ode Duke who had just sat down, if he meant to s th it the Rao:lllation of the Church of tt is country wes a Parlia ffientary Revolution, or if the Revolution of ttifete was a Parliamentary Revolution, and were the re any other Re volutions besides those ? The Earl of WINCHILSEA could not suffer the un warrantable attack made upon a Noble Duke near him to pass without notice. He could nut allow without notice that any Noble Lord should say of the Noble Duke that he would aim at obtaining office by a sacrifice of principle. (Cries of No, no," from the Treasury bench.) A more unjustifiable attack than that made upon the Noble Duke lie had never txtl ,V 6 A-rouses) fered from that Noble Person upon a great and memora ale occasion, yet he gage him tile fullest credit for perfeet sincerity, and for an earnest wish to maintain the peace of the country. It was with much regret that he had now to acknowledge that he assisted in removing that Noble Duke from office, and putting in place of him and his col leagues a Ministry deserving neither the confidence of Par liament, nor the respect of the country—a Ministry ready to sacrifice the dearest rights and interests of the country, and incur the hazard of overturning all the established in stitutious from a too great facility in yielding to clamour and popular excitement, rather than listening to the dic tates of good sense and sound policy. The Noble and Learned Lord upon the Woolsack bad laid down a doc trine to which he (Lord W.) could not subscribe, namely —that to refuse those taxes which the necessities of the country and the honour of the Sovereign demanded, was no breach of the public peace—be would say it was trea son ; and if the Government did their duty, they wool instantly prosecute the persons accused of such an offence. Lord HOLLAND rose to explain—He did net cast any imputation upon the sincerity of the Noble Duke—neither did be raise any question as to his motives for accepting or rejecting office. The Noble Lord then recapitulated the speech given above. Earl GREY—I wish to vind:cate myself from the imputation of having made, upon the presentation of a petition, a second speech upon the Bill now upon your Lordships' table. lam sure it will be felt that I did not say more than the occasion called for. There is another topic upon which I think it necessary to say a few words. I think the Noble Earl opposite will, upon reflection, be induced to think, that in the heat of debate lie has gone further than be meant. lam not sued those who object to observations upon public men. I admit that be, be lieving we deserved to forfeit the confidence of Parlia ment, is fully entitled to say so. If he had not gone fur ther, and said, that I belonged to a body which bad for. feited its claim to public respect, I should had no right to complain; but I do think that Parliamentary usage affords no justification for his saying that we are ready to sacrifice the dearest interests of the country to retain our situations. That, I am sure he will, upon reflection, see ; is against all Parliamentary order. What, I would desire to ask the Noble Earl is this—does he mean to say, that for the purpose of retaining our situations we are prepared to sacrifice the rights and interests of our country ? The Duke of BUCNINGIIAM and the Earl of Wirt-- climsrea rose at the same moment, and for a considerable time the calls for each appeared pretty equal, but the Noble Duke eventually succeeded in obtaining a hearing. He was sure that the Noble Earl merely meant that Mi nisters were ready to sacrifice what he (Earl W.) consi dered—not what they themselves considered to be, the rights of Englishmen. The Earl of WINCHILSEA—I never meant to impute to the Noble Earl opposite the sacrifice of any principle which he never professed. Individually I feel the highest respect for the Noble Earl. So great was my respect for him, that I did feel the strongest inclination to support his Government, for I felt quite sure that he would be the last man in the country wbe would retract a word he had uttered, or swerve from any principle he professed, and the .Noble Duke near me has correctly interpreted my senti ments. I did mean to impute to the Noble Earl merely the intention to destroy what I conceive to be the dearest rights of the country. Earl GREY expressed himself perfectly satisfied. There was then a very general call for the Order of the Day ; but Lord HOLLAND said there were still several petitions to present. The Earl of DUDLEY was understood to agree to the continued reception of petitions. Lord ROLLE rose to ask a question, but could not ob tain a hearing. Lord HOLLAND had a petition to present from the in habitants of Bond-street ; it wan signed by 101 persons ; there were little more than 200 householders in the street, and a large proportion of them were females, so that the inhabitants of Bond-street had now relieved themselves from the reproach to which they were liable a mongst their fellow-citizens of being unfriendly to Reform. Lord WHARNCLIFFE said his mention ofßend-etreet and St. James's-street was purely accidental. He merely referred to them as they presented themselves. first to his particularly ad l'lvaerroen will only men ,m_eirriLsedo—rtdonfißoteoffoirr.ormiNsuppiLoslifngthtehaisit.thhieehye tuintitlatebiHtaoriutsseotfoe-umcilorroest street,a lion the particular street in_riclha poses an opinion am ready to pledge my to prevail unfriendly to th 11 11 s p , e l t f i ( thatfrolms thhael ri majoritytig shown e