The Sun. — London, England, 1855-06-27 00:00:00

placing 350,000 men on his frontiers. It would have ' been an unpardonable want of foresight —a blander for which Ministers would have been justly reproached—if they had neglected by every means in their power to secure the alliance of Austria, or if by menaces or undue pressure they had driven her to throw her weight into the opposite scale, to act in th e i n t eres t o f R uss i a , or t o adopt even that system of neutrality embraced by Prus sia, thus relieving our antagonist from all apprehension of hostility in this quarter. They had done right, there fore, to show deference to Austria, and be mindful of the peculiarities of h er p os iti on ; an d he must say, after listening to all his noble and learned friend had said, he could see nothing to repent or regret in any of the steps they had taken. But in no way, and at no time, had those communications with Austria been allowed to influence or interfere with our military operations. They certainly had looked to the negotiations of Vienna to restore peace, or to secure the active co-ope ration of Austria ; but so determined were her Majesty 's Government that there should be no relaxation of hosti lities, that, before the opening of the conferences, the Duke of Newcastle, after having ascertained that the French Government would adopt the same course, wrote to Lord Raglan to say that he was not to (slacken his efforts, but the contrary, as her Majesty's Government was convinced that the negotiaeions would be accelerated rather than retarded by the vigorous prosecution of the war, and believed that nothing would more tend than a great military success to obtaining an honourable peace. If, while these negotiations were proceeding, Sebas topol had fallen, he had little doubt that we should either have concl uded peace or secured the active co operation of Austria. (Hear.) His noble and learned friend had spoken of the course of the Government as that of men carried away in pursuit of phantom , shapes and deceived, and had argued that A us t r i a must have dealt insincerely with us. He believed that, as re spected either Governments or individuals, nothing was more difficult than to test sincerity. If a friend whose interests were identical with your own,. whose opinions coincided with your own, and who was prepared to make great sacrifices to carry out those opinions, it such a friend all at once became what his notate and learned friend called cautious, stopped short, and, for reasons which you could not adroit to be valid, refused to go w ith you any further, you might be apt to doubt that he had been sincere in the first instance. Yet your in ference might be erroneous, and he might have been sincere. All he could say was, that from the first Aus tria regarded her interests as identical with those of England and France on what was called the Eastern question; she took precisely the same view as they d'd of the aggressive designs and acts of Russia, and agreed with them entirely as to the necessity of putting a check on them. Although just before the commence ment of the war she had reduced her army by 90,000 nsen, yet since the war commenced she had spent 16,000,000/. sterling in strengthening her army,/ and placing :t on a war footing, and in erecting great barriers against the pending invasion of Russia on the Polish frontier. Nov this large expenditure was perhaps the best argument he could adduce with the view of proving her sincerity, because certainly if it had been her object to deceive us, she might have have made an experiment with that view at much less cost. He must also say that Austria had never required any impulse from France or England in the proceedings of the various negotiations. On the contrary, it was she who volunteered, sayingthat she wished to confer, and who proposed the signature of the protocol of December the 2d. When the confer ences opened Count Buol mode the strong declaration to which his noble and learned friend alluded, that Aus tria had contracted certain engagements with her allies, and would adhere to them whatever might be the con sequence. If, therefore, she intended to deceive, she went to work in a very weak and ill-advise I way, the only result of which could have been to bring out her bad faith prominently before the world. (Hear, hear.) The only object she could have proposed to herself by such a line of conduct was that of retarding or crippling our military operations, but that evidently had never en tered into her views. On the contrary, any milit irersuc cess we gained was received with the greatest satisfac tion in Vienna, and their lordships would well remember the telegraphic despatch of the Emperor of Austria to the Emperor of the French and the Queen of England, congratulating them on the great event of the victory of Inkerman, and desiring to associate himself in its con sequences. The plenipotentiary of Austria brought for ward the same proposals, expressed the same wishes, and supported them by exactly the same language as those of England and France, and it was only when the proposals made were rejected, and the English and French plenipotentaries declared they would go no fur ther, that Austria then said there were other means by which the basis of the third point might be carried into effect, and that those other means ought to be brought forward. The conferences were adjourned sine die, and so they would remain, but Count Buol observed that their remaining in that state would be the cause of great embarrassment to all parties, and he wished to redeem the pledge he bad given at a former conference, to makeone last attempt at bringing the belligerents to gether. The answer to that was that we (the Ministry) must see the proposal before we could give any opinion upon it. The propcsal was sent us and declined, and the plenipotentiaries of England and France said they could only attend the conference for the purpose of its being closed. Count Buol knew beforehand that this proposal was to he refused, and he (the Earl of Clarendon) appre hended that it was only brought forward at that confer ence because he had pledged himself at a previous one to do so. The conference being closed, they said to Austria that they thought the time was now come for her to fulfil the engagements into which she had entered. Her answer to that in substance was, that although Russia had not agreed to the proposal made by the allied plenipoten tiaries on the third point, yet there were other means of giving effect to its basis by a system of counterpoise —the opening of the Straits when the Sultan thought himself in danger, a treaty to secure the independ ence of Turkey—by which arrangements the preponder ance of Russia would be terminated, and all anxiety for the maintenance of the Turkish empire would cease ; and consequently, as those terms had been rejected by the Western Powers, Austria did not think herself bound to co-operate with them by taking part in the war. He need hardly say that that was not their view of the en gagements taken by Austria, or the mode in which the fulfilment of the treaty was to be accomplished. (Hear.) But in justice we ought to consider the motives on which the decision we regretted might be based. He thought that when Austria entered into successive engagements with England and France, and made extensive and costly preparations for war—when, moreover, she ur gently pressed that milit ar y m i ss i ons s h ou ld be sent by the allies to the head-quarters of General Hess, there could be no doubt that she intended and expected to go to war, though not very soon: She expected that, before the season for operations commenced, the allied armies would have gained a decisive advan tage in the Crimea ; and being thus set f ree wou ld h ave ben able to act in concert with her during a campaign on the Danube. Let it be considered, further, that if Austria bad on our invitation, at the close of the con ferences, declared war against Russia, she would have had to wage it single-banded as regarded support in Germany. Could she have reckoned upon the assistance of Prussia, or even upon her neutrality ? Could she have been sure that she might not have had to deal with ene mies on her flank and rear as well as in her front ? The finances of Austria were not in a prosperous state, and her resources were greatly crippled by her restricted commerce. Her financial means were not equal to her military expenditure, and on that account she did not occupy the station which she ought to fill as a first-rate power in Europe. (Hear, hear.) There were other reasons, to which he did not think it prudent to allude, which he had no doubt had influenced the decision of Austria. (Hear, hear.) The noble and learned lord had asked, what was our position with reference to Austria ? Austria had announced her readiness to con tinue to occupy the Principalities until peace could he procured, in fulfilment of her treaty with her allies. To that he did not oppose any objection, because the occu pation of the principalities, and the treaty on which it was founded, prevented Austria from assuming a posi tion of neutrality. That possession and occupation was an act of hostility towards Russia, on account of which Russia would be justified in declaring war, and as long as Austria fulfilled her treaty with Turkey, she could not be - acting with Russia. It should be borne in mind that, if - Austria were to leave the Principalities, there would be no security against the return of Russia, and it would be impossible for the army of Omer Paella to remain in the Crimea. (Hear.) He had before announced that the four bases were to be taken in their entirety, and as the third. which was of the utmost importance, had been rejected, and the responsibility of that rejection rested on Russia, her Majesty's Government considered themselves dis engaged from those negotiations. (Cheers.) There was not the least doubt that the great question in volved in the four base's must again come under discus sion, but England and France had announced their de termination, stating that they had reserved the right to go free and unfettered to any future negotiations, and to make peace upon such conditions as they might con sider most advantageous to themselves and to Europe. (Cheers.) He was compelled to 'abstain from following his noble and learned friend through his speech. He thought it most desirable not to increase any misunder standing which might exist with respect to Austria, and trusted that a still closer union would take place between this country and Austria, which need not be despaired of if we should be able to achieve any great military suc cesses, (Hear.) H e did no t th in k t h e procee di ngs of the Government with regard to Austria ought to sub ject them to any censure. At no time, and in no manner, had their military operations been relaxed in conse quence of the carrying on of negotiations ; an d w ith re pect to their future position, so far from being wor3e it was improved, because England an d Fr!ince were more free and unfettered th an before in decidinon what terms should be made. (Ch eers.) g up The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH said he was not about to censure the Government for having used their best endeavours to conciliate Austria, and obtain her concurrence in the measures which the allies had thought fit to adopt for the protection of Turkey ; for it was of the greatest importance to obtain the concurrence of Austria in those measures. He Was not about to cen sure Austria for the caution which she had exercised, f or it was justified by the peculiar position in which she Was placed. He was not about to complain of the conduct Austria bad pursued since the termination of the negotia tions at Vienna. He admitted that Austria had performed good service to the allies and to Europe. She found herself at the commencement of these transactions with an army much reduced in strength, and with her finances in a low condition. She had made an effort to place her army on a war establishment, and had placed it i n a p os ition threat ening to Russia, which had had the effect of diverting the forces of Russia from action in the Crimea. But not only had the armed position of Austria effected this objest, but she had to consider her own position in Italy, in Hungary, and in Poland ; and no doubt her position of . THE SUN, LONDON, WEDNESDAY EV ENING, JUNE 27, 1855, line, and not the branches. What he now complained of was the branches. After a few words from Mr. LUSHINGTON, Mr. RICE was surprised at the opposition of the hon. member for Richmond, recollecting the pledge given by the South-Eastern Company, of which the hon. member was chairman, not to oppose the formation of such a bill. Mr. RICH denied that the company had violated any pledge. Mr. RICE read the pledge, given by the Company under their seal to the House of Lords, not to oppose the construction of a direct line of railway to Dover. (Hear from Mr. Rich.) With regard to the injury complained of, in respect of the line passing in front of the Lord Warden Hotel, he found it would pass at the back of the property, and was approved of by the tenant of the hotel: Mr. JAMES MACGRE . GOR addressed the house, describing this bill as one of the most extraordinary that had been brought before the house. He thought it a strange proceeding on the part of the committee not to hear the South-Eastern Company against this bill whose property was affected by it. The amendment was ultimately withdrawn, and the bill read a third time. Petitions were presented by Sir T. Ackland against the Church Rate Bill, an by Mr. Spooner against the grant to the College of Maynooth. Several other peti tions were presented against the Church Rate Bill. The house then resumed itself into committee on the Metropolis Local Management Bill. On clause 158 being proposed, which gave power to the Board of Works to make bye laws, Sir B. HALL proposed to amend it, for the purpose of giving a similar power to the Metropolitan Board. The amendment was agreed to, and the clause as amended was ordered to stand part of the bill. Clauses up to 160 were agreed to, with a few verbal amendments. Clause 161, relative to penalties on Gas Companies, was withdrawn. Clauses 162 to 173 inclusive were agreed to. Sir B. HALL said that all these clauses were now in operation in the metropolis, and he would take care to inform the house upon clauses which involved any new matter. This, however, would not arise until towards the end of the bill. On clause 174, making provision for damages and com pensation to be determined by a justice of the peace, when not otherwise provided for by the act, Mr. HENLEY objected to such an arrangement, as the amount of compensation which might be awarded by the justice was not defined, and suggested some other tribunal. Sir B. HALL did not see how the matter could be re ferred to any other authority except a justice of the peace, but in order to meet the view of his r i g ht h on . friend he would substitute the words " metropolitan police magistrate" for those of "justice of the peace," and would take care to embody in the clause some provision for a higher tribunal, where the damages exceeded a cer tain amount. The clause, as amended, was then agreed to. The remaining clauses, with some slight amendments, were also ordered to stand part of the bill ; which wan fixed to come into operation on the let December next. The postponed clauses were then proceeded with. On clause 19, Sir IL WILLOUGHBY objected that there was no governing power in the corporate body. All the mem bers were co-equal. Supposing it was necessary to sue the board, who would the right hon. hart. propose should he sued. Must the whole board be proceeded against ? Sir B. HALL said his idea in this matter was to act upon the same principle as was in operation in boards of guardians. If, however, any hon. member could sug gest any improvement in this clause which should ac complish the object he bad in view, he should be most happy to adopt the alteration. Alter sone further discussion,—the clause was agreed to, Sir B, HALL promising to take steps to amend it in the repnrt. Clause 21, which was one of the postponed clauses, and which propwed that twp members of the Metropo litan Board should be selected for the City, was agreed to by inserting three instead of two. Clauses 22 and 23 were struck out. Clause 24 was agreed to with a few verbal amend ments. Clause 25 was postponed. On clause 2G being put, which proposed that the no mination of the chairman of the Central Board should be referred to the Secretary of State, Sir B. HALL proposed to amend it by Inserting that that officer should be appointed by the Central Board, and that he should receive a salary of not less than 1,500/. a-year, and not exceeding 2,0001. Lord R. GROSVENOR objected to the proposition that the central board should decide on the salary of their chairman. After some observations from Sir W. CLAY, Mr. B. BARING, and Viscount EBRINGTON, Mr. HENLEY thought the' best dourse to pursue would be to postpone the further consideration of the clause till the Committee had determined upon the num ber of members that should constitute the Board. The further consideration of the clause was then post poned. The CHAIRMAN reported progress, and obtained leave to sit again on Thursday, at 12 o'clock. • INDEMNITY DILL. The committee on this bill was postponed to Thurs day, at 12 o'clock. STOCK IN TRADE BILL. The committee on this bill was also postponed to Thursday. ROYAL ASSENT. Shortly before 4 o'clock Sir A. Clifford, the Usher of the Black Rod, appeared at the table, and summoned the House to the House of Lords, to hear the Royal assent given by commission to several public and private bill, for which see our Lords' report. The house then adjourned to six o'clock. The house resumed at six o'clock. NOTICE OF MOTION. Mr. WISE gave notice that, on Tuesday, July 10, he should move that an humble address be presented to her Majesty, praying that her Majesty may be most gracions:y pleased to issue her royal commands for a complete revision of the diplomatic establishments of the United Kingdom. hon. gentleman who proposed it announced his intention of withdrawing, by one of those surprises which sometimes took place, and when no one expected a division. (Hear, hear.) Eta could only say that he thought the recommen dations suggested in the speech of the hon gentleman who moved the resolutions could not be carried into effect with out great injury to the public service. Mr. WISE gave notice that, in consequence of the un satisfactory answer of the noble lord, he should, on Tues day, the 20th of July, move " That an humble address be presented to her Majesty, praying that her Majesty may be most graciously pleased to assue her royal commands for a complete revision of the diplomatic establishments of the United Kingdom." CANADA AND THE WEST INDIES. Mr. RICARDO asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether any treaty for a remission or diminution of duties had been made, or was contemplated, between Canada and the West India Colonies, or any part thereof, in which the whole of the British possessions were not in cluded ; and whether the Government had sanctioned or would sanction the principle of a colony entering into a fiscal arrangement which did not comprehend the whole of the British Empire? Lord J. RUSSELL said that no treaty was made or contemplated between Canada and the West Indian colo nies for the remission or diminution of duties. There had been a communication from British Guiana saying that a proposition had been made similar to that which had been made between this country and the United States. He had referred the proposition to the Board of Trade, which had reported very strongly against it, and he should not, therefore, give any such proposal his support. THE EXPEDITION TO KERTCH. Mr. GIBSON wished to put a question to the noble lord at the head of the Government in reference to the recent operations at Kertch and other places in the Sea of Azoff. Grave charges had been made against the character of Englishmen and English officers which he did not believe, and which. if not true, ought to receive a contradiction from the Ministers of the Crown. He had seen statements made in private letters and published in the public journals. It was stated in the Times newspaper that when the allies entered Kertch the population made their submission, and offered them bread and salt, and they were assured they would be protected, and their lives and property would be spared. The correspondent went on to say that a great de struction of property followed, and more than that—that towards evening Turkish stragglers from the camp, and others who had fallen Int of the line of march, flocked into the town, and perpetrated the most atrocious crimes ; to pillage and wanton devastation they added viola ',ion ,and murder. The French patrols endeavoured to preserve order, but there was the serious imputation upon the English character that our lieutenant-general was the cause of these destracive excesses from his apathy or neglect. Hediti not believe this statement, but he wished to ask whether the noble lord at the head of the Government had received any information on the subject? Lord PALMERSTON--Her Majesty's Government have received no information with regard to the transactions to which my right hon. friend's question relates. My atten tion was called to the statement he has quotedfrom a news paper, and my noble friend at the head of the War Depart ment will, without any delay, call for such report touching these transactions as may be given by the officers in com mand in that sea. CIF.CASSIA. Lord J. MANNERS said the house was aware that all the forts on the Circassian coast were now in the posses sion of the Circassians, and that, throughout the Confer ences at Vienna, no mention whatever was made of Cir cassia. The last despatch from Admiral Lyons stated that Mr. Longford had been sent to Anapa to superintend the political part of the question. He wished to ash in what capacity Mr. Lonford had been sent to Anapa, and what were the relations at present existing between her Majes ty's Government and the Circassian chiefs ? Lord PALMERSTON said that Mr. Longford was her Majesty's Consul at Monastir, and he had appointed that gentleman when he was Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, in consequence of his having passed much time in that country, and being well acquainted with its manners, habits, and language. When an operation was contem plated at Anapa, it was expected that the Circassian tribes would co-operate with the allies, and Mr. Longford was ac cordingly sent there, being well acquainted with the peo ple, as au organ of communication between the allied com manders and the Circassian tribes. There were no rela tions existing between her Majesty's Government and the Circassian chiefs, except those arising out of the co-opera tion in the attack upon Anapa. Mr. BAILEY asked in what capacity Col. Lloyd had been sent to Circassia last year, with a salary of 2,000/. ? Lord PALMERSTON said that Colonel Lloyd was ap pointed to open communications with the people, and to ascertain to what extent, and upon what terms, their co operation could be obtained. NEW WRIT FOR THE CIIT OF LONDON. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE moved the issue of a new writ for the city of London, in the place of Baron Rothschild, who, since his election, bad entered into a contract for the public service. He said he might have proposed to send this question to a select committee, but he considered the law of the case was so clear that be could not agree to take such a shabby course. He read the terms of the act, anti gave a history of the circumstances under which it had been passed, and contended that the provisions of the act would not be met if Baron Rothschild merely declined to take his seat, for in that way 50 members might vacate their seats and their constituents might be unrepresented. He quoted from Mr. Fox and other members who took part in the discussion when the law was passed, to show that it was intended to embrace contracts for money and obtained by public competition; and contending that the case was clear, he moved that the writ for the seat of Baron Rothschild do now issue. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL admitted that the law was as the hon. gentleman had stated it, though perhaps there were one or two ambiguous phrases in it. But, on the other hand, he must remind the house that loan con tractors had repeatedly sat in that house since the act was passed without any one challenging their seats ; and on that ground, and also as Baron Rothschild was not in the house to defend himself, he thought it would be better to refer the question to a select committee. There was a precedent for this course in the select committee which was appointed to consider the case of Mr. Daniel Whittle kiarvey, a member of this house, on his being appointed registrar of hackney carriages. Mr. WALPOLE seconded the amendment on the same grounds. Sir F. THESIGER contended that the precedent quoted by the Attorney-General was not applicable to this case. In the present instance there was no doubt as to the facts, and he held there could be as little doubt as to the law ; so that there was no reason whatever for the house delegating its functions to a committee, who were no more competent to the task than itself. It was very true that loan contrac tors had often sat in that house without challenge, but then a blot was not a blot till it was hit. It was not a lawyer's question at all ; every member of the house was as compe tent to decide upon the matter as he was. He would, there fore, support the hon. gentleman's motion. Lord J. RUSSELL thought the case was by. no means so clear. The difficulty to his mind was that so many loan contractors had been allowed to sit in that house in former times without challenge from any one, and it was hard to believe that no one should have discovered the scope of the law till the hon. member for Finsbury applied his atten tion to it. He reminded the house further that all who had since taken shares in this loan had come under the terms of the act as much as Baron Rothschild. Mr. M. GIBSON also thought it likely that every mem ber of the house who load taken a share in the loan exposed himself to the penalties of this bill. He further called attention to the fact that the Secretary to the Treasury had violated the provisions of the act by allowing a mem ber of Parliament to take the contract, and that Baron Rothschild had incurred a penalty of 500/. for every mem ber of Parliament to whom he had given shares of the con tract. Mr. HILDTARD denied that the act affected any one but the contractor; and, even were it otherwise, he de nounced the morality which w ou ld t amper w ith the provi sions of an act for fear it should affect themselves. After some further discussion, Mr. BRIGHT suggested that the morality of the coun try, and especially of Parliament, had outgrown the pro visions of this act, and proposed that it should be referred to this committee to consider whether the whole law re lating to contractors might not be repealed altogether. Lord PALMERSTON was in favour of sending the question to a select committee, and thought the suggestion of Mr. Bright well deserving of consideration. Mr. DUNCOMBE then withdrew his motion, and the amendment for appointing aselect committee was agreed to. CHARITABLE TRUSTS BILL (1855). The SPEAKER announced that the Lords had agreed to the Charitable Trusts Bill (1855). SEBASTOPOL COMMITTEE REPORT. Mr. ROEBUCK postponed his motion on this subjee till Tuesday the 10th of July. SUNDAY BEER ACT. Numerous petitions having been present:3lcl against this act, Mr. H. BERKELEY rose to move foraselect committee to inquire into the act of last session, for further regulating the sale of beer and other liquors on the Lord's-day. He said that when that bill passed into a law, it was hardly known to any member of that house. There ware the names of three members to the back of that bill, which were a gua rantee for it ; but he thought these hon, gentlemen had made an oversight, and he opposed it on its third reading as a measure that would be one-sided iu its operation,and that it only curtailed the enjoyment of the humbler classes. Every succeeding Sunday had betrayed the glaring injustice of that, act. The greatest blessing that had been bestowed on the working classes was the facilities that had been afforded them of viewing the beauties of nature at a distance from home. Mang thousands of the population had lived and died without having been five miles from their homes, and many of the inhabitants of London, though living on an arm of the sea, had never seen that glorious expanse of water. It was ridiculous to say that people who had been hard at work for six days should spend the seventh on their bended knees in some dingy chapel or church, listening to the oily outpourings of some canting Stiggins. He did not advocate a want of religion, but he did object to the in terference with the working classes, as this bill did. He would follow a working and a rich man through a Sunday's excursion. The poor man, when he had de termined on a day's pleasure, was up at five o'clock in the morning, locked up his house—having nothing in it he feared losing, and went forward depending on the pub• lic-houses for refreshment. When he arrived by the train he would find they were all shut, and would not be open until six o'clock; but then the train started by that time, and he was compelled to return, and got back to town too late for the public-houses there ; and thus, having been defrauded out of his dinner iu the country, he was obliged to go to bed supperless because he had not a well-stocked larder. The rich man, on the other hand, could go where he pleased, and there was not an inn that would not open its doors to him. He could there have luncheon, and when he returned home his larder would supply him with every luxury, and he could well afford to do without draught porter for one day in the week, when his cellars were well supplied by Messrs. Bass and Guinness. He could also, if he chose, go to his club, whose door was never shut, day or night, and could have whatever he desired. He might, if he thought proper, go to any hotel, who would willingly take him in. Therefore the law was one-sided in its ope ration, and he warned the house to beware how it tam pered with the enjoyments of the poor man. The h n. gen tleman then complained of the anomalousposition publicans wore placed in by the total absence of any rule to guide them or the magistracy as to what constituted a traveller. Some magistrates held that a man in a poet-chaise was a traveller, though in a fly he was not ; and one gen tleman held that brandy and water was not the refreshment of a traveller, but was the drink of a pleasure party. Mr. Trail, of Greenwich, will not allow parties on pleasure to come within the meaning of the act, while the more liberal bench of Ilford holds that any man going five miles along a turnpike road, for any purpose whatever, was to all intents and purpose., a traveller within the meaning of the act. Mr. Hardwieke thought that a man stopping on his return near his own house was not a traveller, while Mr. Norton thought he was. The hon. gentleman quoted numerous other instances to show the perplexity the public were left in as to what really constituted a traveller, the complaints from all parts of the country being universal that there was no rule laid down for the guidance of the publicans, and that they did not know what to do. He had received a letter from a Mr. Atkinson, detailing the operation of the bill in Liverpool, in which the same absurdities occurred ; for while a man going to a village about two miles from the town was allowed to be a traveller, he was not allowed to be one if he went to a village one mile further on. As . a further illustration of the evil working of this bill, he would men tion a case which occurred on Sunday, April 23. Oa that day the landlord of the Angel Inn, Sutton, had his brother and sister from London to visithim, and as the parties were supping together, at half-past ten o'clock, two policemen knocked at the door, and were admitted. After looking into the parlour and other public rooms, they walked into the private apartment where the family were at supper, and seeing two decanters of wine on the table they de parted ; but, in the morning the master of the house was taken before a magistrate, and fined 10 shillings and 15 shillings costs, although he offered to prove the lady and gentleman were his sister and brother; the magisterial answer to his offer being, " Theo you must not have your brother and sister to supper." He (Mr. .Berkeley) be lieved the licensed victuallers were a very respectable body of men, and if any of them were not so that re flected chiefly upon the magistracy of this country. (Hoar, hear.) But whatever they were, he was not to be told that any class of her Majesty's subjects was to be treated in this way. Why, in Russia a man could not be in a state of greater slavery. (Hear.) If the licensed vic tuallers were to be fined for giving a supper to their own relations, what was the meaning of the term that an Eng lishman's house was his castle? (Hear.) He would now call the attention of hon. gentlemen to those unlicensed victuallers' houses, the clubs of this city. The hour was past 11 o'clock, and the night was Sunday. Two gentle. men were sitting at supper, one of whom was a magistrate. They had been down to Richmond or Greenwich, and no body would presume to doubt that his worship was a tra veller. The parties, therefore, discussed their devilled leg of a turkey, and washed it down with whisky punch, and at 12 o'clock returned to their homes " comfortable." (Laughter.) The next morning the magistrate might go to his police-court, and the first case brought forward might be that of an innkeeper who had been informed against for giving a beefsteak and a bottle of wine at half-past 10 o'clock to his own brother ; and this magistrate, with the taste of the whisky scarcely off his lips, would hurl the statute at the head of the unfortunate publican, and knock him down; fining him 1/. ss. (Hear, hear.) This tempted him to exclaim "Handy dandy • which is the justice, and which is the thief ?" (Laughter.) He presumed the pur pose for which this bill was framed was to check drunken ness on the Sabbath—(hear)—but he conscientiously be lieved it had not had that effect. They could not make a drunkard sober by Act of Parliament,but he could tell the house what it had done ; it had made people hypocrites. They had created a hole-and-corner drunkenness through the country which was perfectly appalling. (Hear, hear.) People now got drunk in coffee-houses and in brothels, where debauchery went hand. in hand with drunkenness. From a return which had been made of the cases of drunk enness occurring on Whitsunday, in 1851, in Birmingham, Bristol, Bath, Bradford, Hull, Leeds, Liverpool, Not tingham, and Sheffield, it appeared the total number of cases amounted to Si;• but from a similar return made in the present year, the total number was 118—showing an increase of drunkenness since the passing of this act of 33 cases, or nearly double that of 1854. The great fault of the•bill was that it let the rich completely alone—(hear)-- and while it was professedly introduced for the better ob servance of the Sabbath, it was in reality only for the bit ter observance of the Sabbath. (Hear.) The act must have been brought forward by those who were lineally de scended from the respectable gentleman who hanged a cat on Monday for killing a mouse on Sunday. (Laughter.) He hoped the house would give him a &lance of proving some of the allega,tions.he had made. He thought he h laid before them seine proof of the evil opera ions of the act. All he asked was, that there'should be an inquiry, . and, if the event was different from what lie supposed, he would be the first to submit to it. (Hear.) Mr. COBBETT seconded the motion. The hon. and learned member referred to two cases of hardship under the act, and said he was sure the hon. member for North Lan cashire (Mr. W. Patten) would be the last man who would wish to continue the act, unless it was satisfactorily proved that the object was so superior to the mischief and cruelty it occasioned that it ought not to be repealed. There bad been so many conflicting decisions upon the statute that he would ask the hon. member what was his notion of a tra veller, and what distinction he drew between a traveller and a bona fide traveller? (Hear.) Some magistrates had decided that a bona fide traveller meant something more than a traveller; and others, that it meant a traveller tra velling. (Laughter.) This was a case in which the house ought to institute an inquiry, fur the reasons given by the hon. member for Bristol. Sir G. GREY said, that though ho did not concur in all the opinions expressed by the hon. member for Bristol, he would consent, on the part of the Government, to the in quiry he had proposed into the operation of the act ; but ho must say that a very incorrect notion would be ob tained from the speeches of both the mover and seconder of the way in which that act passed, and as to the motives with which the hon. member for North Lancashire pro posed, and the house adopted it, It ought to be borne in' mind that a strong feeling was expressed in the country not in favour of this bill, but in favour of the total closing of public-houses on the Lord's-day. He was ready to agree to the nomination of a fair committee ; but he put' it to the hon. member whether the inquiry could be bona fide entered upon before the commencement of next session ? Mr. BRAD Y was much pleased to hear that the Go vernment intended to grant this inquiry. He thanked the hon. gentleman fcr bringing forward the motion, and he gave it his best support. Mr. W. PATTEN wished, as the author of the bill, to make a few observations in respect to the speech of the hon. gentleman who moved the motion, and more espe cially to that part of it in which he said that the effect of the act had been to increase rather than diminish the amount of drunkenness. He could assure the hon. mem ber that if he could substantiate his case, ho (Mr. W. Pat ten) should not only support him, but be grateful to him, and would join him in obtaining the repeal of the act. But that was a question which the committee would have to decide. Ho was bound to say that he had carefully watched tho operation of the bill, and he did see defects in it, more especially with regard to the question of bond fide travellers. The difficulty of what constituted a bond fide traveller did not arise with him. He had intended to define in the act itself what was meant by that term, but he was informed that he had better make the act more conformable with those which preceded it; and he had ac cordingly drawn it not only according to the spirit, but according to the very terms of previous acts. It had been alleged, in opposition to the bill, that it was one brought in by the aristocracy in opposition to the lower classes. Never was a greater mistake committed in this country. The circumstances were these : A committee of the house was appointed to inquire into the subject, which sat for two years, and before that committee the licensed vic- tuallers were more especially represented, and their views were considered. In consequence of the shoals of peti tions, signed by 480,000 persons, which were presented during only one half of the session, he was requested to take up the matter, and bring in a bill further to limit the hours within which intoxicating drinks should be sold on Sundays. He had never recei:ed one letter upon the subject from the higher classes ; they were received wholly from mechanics, mechanic and literary institutions, and places of that description—(hear, hear)—and from persons who had devoted their time to the improvement of the moral and social condition of the working classes. He,would re peat, that there e over was such a mistaken idea as to sup • pose that the measure had originated with the upper classes. It might be a wrong line of legislation; but all he said was, that it sprung from a body of men who had a strong feeling on the subject, such as the house was little aware of. He had had a good deal to do with the labouring classes in connection with the present subject, and they were as jealous as any of the interference of the rich. Mr. H. BERKELEY explained that he did not say that the bill was brought in or originated by the higher classes; but it had the effect of making a difference between the upper and lower classes. _ _ Sir. W. PATTEN would only again repeat, that so far from the aristocracy having taken any part, it had been from the labouring classes alone that he had derived his information. (Hear, hear.) He wished to state that, once for all, that all misunderstanding upon the subject might be avoided. Mr. WILKINSON thought they had begun at the wrong end. Instead of trying to stop drunkenness by shutting the public-houses, they should set about to edu cate the people, and render them less susceptible to the in fluence of drink. Sir J. WALSH believed that those who were in favour of legislative interference were actuated by the best acid most religious motives; but, at the same time, he could not but think that they wore very much mistaken in the course they were pursuing. Mr. VILLIERS thought that the legislative inter ference had bad the most beneficial effects. As chairman of the committee, which sat for two years, he had gone into the inquiry with a predisposition against any legisla tive measures • but he must confess that his opinion° were changed by the evidence which was given; and he would tell those who were opposed to the present act, to look into the evidence, and satisfy themselves upon the subject. During his experience on the committee, of which he was the chairman, he never heard evidence from 'any person in authority against the shutting of public-houses at twelve o'clock on Saturday night. On the contrary, it was the poor themselves who at that time prayed the Legisla ture to interfere even further in the matter. The opinion of the public, he believed, had continued in the same di rection ever since. He did not object to the proposed in quiry, but trusted it would be conducted in a fair spirit, and give full satisfaction to all parties concerned. (Hear.) Mr. HENLEY was glad to hear it committee was to be granted, and sincerely trusted it would be a good one. Sir J. SHELLEY hoped the whole matter would be fairly and properly inquired into. He had little doubt the measure was to the general satisfaction of the people ; but considering it passed hurriedly through the house, a com mittee of inquiry might adjust all matters of difficulty which had arisen from that circumstance. He trusted when he brought forward his motion for the opening, un der certain restrictions, of the Crystal Palace on Sunday, that all those who, during the evening, had spoken in favour of wholesome recreations on the Sabbath, would give him their support. (Hear, hear.) Mr. E. BALL said, so far as his experience went, he believed the act at present in operation lad been attended with the most beneficial results. Mr. T. DIJNCOMBE was glad it had been decided to have an inquiry, but was opposed to its adoption during the present session. The motion was agreed to. armed inactivity had had the effect of preserving tran quillity in all those countries, and also of checking the ambition of Prussia. (Hear.) By the treaty of the 14th of June, concluded with Turkey, and the movement of her army into the principalities, Austria bad practically effected the evacuation of those principalities. All this had Austria done by arming herself and placing a large military force in a position threatening to Russia. But she offered more. She offered before our expedition went to the Crimea to communicate with the allies, with a view to further military operations, and in consequence of our determination to act on our own opinions in send ing au expedition to the Crimea, she told us she could meet Russia alone, and that circumstances rendered it necessary for her to adopt a different course of action. At a subsequent period, when it was of great importance that Austria should act with us, we had, looking to no thing but the success of the operations in the Crimea, withdrawn from her immediate vicinity 50,000 good Turkish troops, thus depriving her of the only assist ance on which she could have relied in the event of mi litary operations against her on the part of Russia. It was evident that the ill-fated expedition to the Crimea had perilled Austria, and reduced her to a position of difficulty, which prevented her from adopting a course which was most essential to her honour and dignity, and even her existence. Before the expedition had sailed to the Crimea he had cautioned the Government on the consequences of its being carried out, and the effect it would have on the policy of Austria, but they adhered to their own plans, and deprived themselves of the co-ope ration which they would otherwise have had. It was of the greatest importance that Austria should have held that position which she had done. It was that security which had been given to all the states in the central parts of Europe which had enabled France to detach such a large portion of her forces to the Crimea. He did not desire to see the war extended to the central parts of Europe, if, by possibility, that dreadful cala mity could be avoided ; and if be might offer any advice to Austria, he would say, "Be armed—be strong— threaten—be always ready to strike, but withhold your hand until circumstances may occur which will justify your action, and insure you almost certain success." While he so far approved of the conduct of Austria, and justified her caution, and believed she had acted accord ing to the dictates of political prudence, he must express the apprehension which he felt at the reports which were daily circulated with respect to the intended reduction of the Austrian forces. (Hear.) He cared little about her diplomacy, but he attached great importance to her mili tary movements. If she really had determined to make a large reduction of her army, that was indeed an event of the greatest possible significance, for it indicated an entire change in her intentions and her policy. (Hear.) Such a proceeding would not only have a great effect upon the war with Russia, but upon the position of every state of Europe. Austria would be placing herself on a level with Prussia—reducing herself from that position of influence which she ought to possess as the first great German power, and depriving herself of the means of protecting Turkey ; for it was not the extent of ter ritory possessed by a nation—not the amount of its popu lation—not its financial means that gave it real influence in negotiations ; it was the amount and real value of its disposable military force which gave influence and effect to any state. (Hear, hear.) Looking at our changed position, it was impossible for him not to view with considerable apprehension the condition in which this country was placed. He earnestly pressed upon the con sideration of the Government the position in which the country now stood. By our alliance with Turkey, France, and Sardinia, and the hope of having in the field 350,000 of the disposable troops of Austria, we might look with seine degree of confidence to the result of the war ; but if we were compelled to dismiss from our minds the hope of receiving such assistance—if we were to be compelled to rely upon our own resources alone, it was the bouaden duty of the Government to consider most earnestly and seriously by what means our military resources might be largely increased, and at once to pro pose to Parliament measures which he deemed under present circumstances peculiarly essential to a satisfac tory conclusion of the war. If statesmen did not take care what they were about, the people, disgusted with failure, would at no distant period leave statesmen to fight it out by themselves. (Hear.) The Duke of ARG YLL said that if to secure Austrian co-operation we had sent our armies to the Danube, she might have aided us to the frontier of the principalities ; but there was nothing to lead us to suppose that she would have continued that co-operation for any move ment beyond it. The noble and learned lord had ex pressed it as his opinion that no power had gained at the conferences at Vienna except Russia, that power having announced to Austria its willingness to concede two points in which she was greatly interested. But that intimation might have been given, and probably would have been giyen, by Russia, even if the conferences had not been entered into at all. (Hear.) Lord DENMAN expressed a hope that more concili atory language would be adopted towards those nations with whom this country was in alliance or might be ne gotiating. _ After a few remarks from the Marquis of Grawni cAuDEland Earl GRANVILLE, their lordships adjourned at half-pmt nine. HOUSE OF COMMONS—(YESTERDAY.) The SPEAKER took the chair at 12 o'clock. The Lords' amendments to the Electric Telegrap'a Company's Bill were considered. The following bills were read a third time and passed :—Barrow Harbour, Farness Railway, and Keighley and Kendal Road. The following bills were considered and ordered to Fie read a third time :—Bradford Corporation Water ; New River Company and Trustees of the River Lee (No. 2). BIRKENHEAD AND LIVERPOOL DOCKS BILL. On the consideration of the above bill, Mr. HORSFALL moved that it be read a third time on Thursday next: Mr. MILNER GIBSON said he wished to introduce an amendment. He considered it right to support the committees of the house generally ; but with respect to this particular measure he believed the committee had not the public interests represented before them, and it was for the conservation of the public in. terests that he wished to have an amendment added to the bill. A commission had been appointed to inquire into the dues levied upon ships and goods in various parts of the United Kingdom, and it was the intention of Parliament to legislate upon that report ; and it was recommended by the Board of Trade that any arrangement that might now be sanctioned with respect to the Birkenhead Docks might not embarrass any measures that Parliament might see necessary to carry into effect. The right hon. gentleman concluded by moving to insert certain words in the bill, the effect of which was that the Corporation of Liverpool should not have the power of diverting the dues raised on shipping from maritime to mere corporation purposes. Mr. G. BUTT opposed the amendment. Mr. LABOUCEtERE expressed a hope that the house would support the decision which the committee, after sitting nearly three months, had arrived at, and pass the bill as it now stood. Mr. BRIGHT supported the amendment. Mr. BOUVERIE, believing that the Corporation of Liverpool had out-generalled the Board of Trade on this bill, said he should support the amendment. Mr. WALPOLE supported the bill as it came from the committee. Mr. CHAMBERS, who addressed the house amidst repeated cries of "divide," proceeded to point out the am biguous construction of the clause, and stated it to be his intention to support the amendment. Mr. HORSFALL regretted the hon. member for Manchester had moved this amendment, and had im pugned the conduct of the committee. The committee, after much care and attention, agreed to this clause, adding to it the special report alluded to by the hon. member for Manchester. The retention of this clause was of such vital importance, that the pr omo t ers o f t h e bill were advi se d th a t if the amendment of the right hon. gentleman the member for Manchester be carried it must be fatal to the bill, because it would prejudice the rights of the corporation. Mr. G. VERNON defended the construction of the clause, contending that the words used were plain and comprehensive. After some remarks from Mr. RICE in favour of the clause, , Mr. CARDWELL said that bnt one clear meaning appeared to pervade the house, and to be the same as that which originally pervaded the committee, that this bill should stand on its own merits to effect the important object for which it was intended, and that nothing in the operation of the bill should be pleaded in bar hereafter to any public measures the Crown might think proper to introduce in conformity with the recom mendation of the commissioners, which had been laid on the table. Ile thought that house was not a good tri bunal fcr deciding on the legal application of specific words, and he felt a difficulty in appreciating the precise effect between the words of the clause and the ainend ment. When his right hon. friend laid on the table the measure of Government he believed that measure would receive the full and dispassionate consideration of the house, unprejudiced by the fact that the clause had been introduced into a private bill. Believing that to be an understood thing, he thought it was undesirable to pre judice the matter by a division, and that his right hon. friend would do wisely to accept the clause in the words in which the committee had presented it. Mr. GIBSON said that being the understanding he would withdraw the amendment. The amendment was accordingly withdrawn, and the bill read a third time. EAST KENT RAILWAY (EXTENSION TO DOVER) BILL. On the Speaker putting the question that this bill be read a third time, Mr. BROCK NiAN opposed the third reading of the bill, believing that whilst there was a line to Folkestone the public did not require one to Dover, and complained that the South-Eastern Company had not been heard against the bill. He proposed the re-committal of the bill. Captain EGERTON, chairman of the committee, de fended their co n d uc t. Th e reason th e commi ttee re fused to hear the South-Eastern Company was that no property belonging to them was affected by this bill. Mr. FITZROY considered no case had been made out for the re-committal of this bill. Mr. RICH denied that the property of the South Eastern Railway was not affected by this bill. He 1 proceeded to show that the line in question pa , sel be tween the terminus of the South Eastern Railway at Dover and the pier where passengers embarked and dis embarked from the steamers. It also pasted over the 1 flags in front of the Lord Warden Hotel, which be longed to the South-Easters Company, although leased for a number of years. The hon. gentleman con tended that the South-Eastern Company ought to have been beard against this bill. Mr. RICH explained that the pledge given by the company had reference to the construction of a ;pain ELECTIVE FRANCHISE. Major REED moved for leave to bring in a bill for con ferring the elective franchise upon persons (nut being aliens) who are assessed to the income tax, but ate not upon a regis ter of electors for any part of Great Britain and Ireland. The hon. and gallant gentleman said he was fully aware of the importance of the subject. Though his intention was to extend the franchise, he had no intention to degrade it; but he thought it only fair that those classes who furnished blood and treasure for our armies shoald not be totally unrepre sented in that house. Neither could he see any reason in allowing a member of that house to derive his qua lification from funded property, whilst we forbade a man out of such property alone to vote at the election of that member. He warned the house that there was a strong feeling of distrust existing respecting them in the minds of the people of England, and this was a most fitting opportunity to do an act of common justice- Commercial travellers to the number of 30,000 formed another class who would be benefited by this bill. Then there were the clerks of the Government offices, and of the large private establishments. (Loud cries " Divide, di vide.") The hon. gentleman made haste to conclude by asking leave to bring in his bill. Lord PALMERSTON thought with the hon. gentleman that it was rather late in the session ----(a laugh)—to bring in a bill on a subject of this kind, involving at least one question which bad excited great variety of opinion in the house. However, as he brought it merely for the purpose of recording his opinion, and submitting it for the consi deration of publio—(hear, and laughter)—and, as he did not expect to carry it through during the present ses• sion, it would, perhaps, be discourteous in him (Lord Pal merston) if he were to offer any opposition to a bill brought in on such terms. (Laughter.) He wished to be under stood as not meaning to imply that, when the extension of the franchise should come to be considered, some exten sion might not be worthy of consideration. The hon. gen tleman hail selected a test of qualificaticn which, whatever might be his anticipations, as likely in the course of events, was not in its nature likely to be permanent ; but it had the advantage of being a test, while it lasted, of responsi bility and property. Urder the circumstances, he offered no hostility to the bill. (Laughter.) Mr. DISRAELI said great complaint had been made of the printers' bill for the house, and the extreme readiness , of the noble lord to assent had added an item which he thought was scarcely justifiable. The introduction of such a bill on a subject so exciting was something that almost perilled the tranquillity of the Parliamentary mind. The question was a large one, and had been brought forward in a manner worthy of the hon. gentleman. (Laughter and "Hear, hoar.") But whether those persons who lived in apartments, and had their clubs, were to enjpy the pri vileges of those who were fathers of families, and to per form all the duties which they were obliged to perform— (loud laughter)—upon that point ho ventured to express his dissent. However, the bill had enabled the noble lord to express the contingent view of what he might do when the extension of the franchise came before the house. The motion was agreed to, amid laughter, withoutdivision a STAGE CARRIAGE DUTIES. General WYNDHAM moved a resolution to the effect that the duties on stage coaches should be modified, on the ground that those duties, by discouraging posting, had diminished the supply of useful and seasoned horses suit able for the army. Sir J. SHELLEY seconded the motion, and complained that while railways were taxed according to their earn ings, omnibuses and stage coaches wore taxed per mile, whether they had passengers or not. After some remarks from Mr. WILLIAMS and Mr. BRO. THESTON, Lord R. GROSVENOR asked why the duty had been reduced from 41. to ld. a mile to the Manchester omni buses; while the London trade paid the old ltd. ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER admitted that the duty pressed heavily upon the omnibus and stage coach trade, and said that on the first opportunity their claims ought to meet with a favourable considoration, but he deprecated the passing of an abstract resolution on the subject. Mr. DISRAELI said that was no answer to the question why a favour had been granted to Manchester, which was denied to,London and the rest of the country. He thought all our taxes on horses were too high. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER admitted that a special concession had been made to Manchester, on the ground that they had to compete with a railway. After some further conversation, Mr. MILES said he understood the duty was also re duced iu the case of Messrs. Chaplin and Horne, in the metropolis. Lord PALMERSTON admitted that the duty with these anomalous modifications, could not be defended : and the motion was agreed to amid general cheering. Mr. SCOLEFIELD obtained the appointment of a se lect committee to inquire into the adulteration of food, drink, and drugs. Mr. L BUTT obtained leave to bring in a bill to regu late the employment of females and young persons in bleaching, finishing, and dyeing works. The other orders of the day were disposed of, and the house adjourned. THE FRIENDLY SOCIETIES BILL. The following Pars voted in the majority in favour of Lord RavensworLh's amendment iri the Friendly Societies Bill : DUKE. Shaftesbury BARONS. Northumberland Delawair Wynford MARQUISES. Ellesmere Colchester Bath Lucan Dynevor Salisbury Powis Lyndhurst Drogheda Talbot Sondes Westminster Beauchamp Walsingham Winchester Macclesfield Downes EARLS. Leitrim Colville of Culross Derby Bantry Redesdale Eglinton Bandon Ravensworth Malmesbury Harrington Pei warth Strad broke VISCOUNTS. Plunket Ellenborough Bangor Monteaglo Stanhope Hawarden Lilford Carnarvon BISHOP. Vault Haddington Exeter. Wharncliffe Kingston _ __ Berners. PAIRS. AGAINST. Camoya Sudeley Rosebery Fitzhardinge Byron Durham Poltimoro QUESTION OF PRIVILEGE. Mr. MALINS said that before the notices of motion were called, he wished to refer for a motion to what had taken place last night. The house would remember that he put a question to the First Lord of the Admiralty with regard to certain charges which had been made against the hon. member for Tynemouth, upon which occasion the Speaker, on being referred to, stated that anything affect- ing the right of an hon. member's seat in that house in volved a question of privilege. Ho then gave notice that ho would bring the subject forward this evening; but he had since been informed that it was not competent for him to refer to a debate which had passed. Unless he was at liberty to refer to the debate of last Friday, it would be perfectly, useless for him to bring the matter before the house, and therefore he now appealed to the right hon. gentleman in the chair, to know whether he was at liberty to refer to the debate in question. The SPEAKER, said that the notice given by the hon. and learned gentleman was most irregular. If any notice was to be taken of certain words in the speech of an hon. member, it ought to be taken at the time the words were used ; but it was altogether informal to refer directly to that speech. . _ SUNDAY TRADING BILL. Mr. OTWAY wished to ask a question of the Secretary of State for the Rome Department with reference to the Sunday-trading Bill. Considerable manifestation of popu lar feeling had been exhibited out of doors in consequence of the progress of this bill, and he therefore wished to ask whether the measure had the sanction of her Majesty's Government? and if the noble lord the member for Mid dlesex should think right to persevere with the bill, whether the Goyernment would oppose or support its fur ther progress? Sit : G.GREY said it was not his intention, if the noble :ord should persevere with the bill, to offer any opposition to the house going on to consider its provisions in com mittee, and in committee 'he should state his opinion of any amendments which might be proposed. Mr. OTWAY said at the proper time he should move that the bill be read that day three months. Mr. ROEBUCK said that in committee he should move that all the clubs in London be included in the provisions of the bill, (Hear, hear.) Mr. M. GIBSON asked whether the house were dis tinctly to understand that the Government assumed no re sponsibility whatever with respect to this measure ? Sir G. GREY said it was not a Government measure. It had been introduced by the noble lord the member for Middlesex, and supported, he believed, by almost all the metropolitan members. (No, no.) The Government were not at all responsible for it. He had already expressed his opinion with regard to many details ; and he should be prepared to do so upon any question that might here after be brought before the house. Mr. MASSEY asked whether the noble lord the mem ber for Middlesex intended to persevere with the bill? Lord R. GROSVENOR said ho had no objection to reply to the question of the hon. gentleman;but he hoped the house would grant its induglence by allowing him to do so at some length. He supposed that the hon. ...oldie man had put the question in consequence of what b had passed in Hyde -park last Sunday. (Cheers, and cries of " No, no.") H e b egged to inform the house that since that meeting tooleplace he had received several letters from working men, in which they spoke of th. persons there assembled in no very complimentary language. (Hear, hear.) It was not his intention to speak in un courteous terms of those persons, forhe considered that the expression of opinion of the very humblest classes of society ought not to be treated with indifference and con tempt, provided always that the opinion was expressed in a proper manner. Mr. ROEBUCK rose to order. He wished to know whether an hon. gentleman, in replying to a question, was allowed to use arguments which ought to be answered at the time tiny were used? (Cheers.) The SPEAKER said the noble lord was certainly not in order; but ho had appealed to the indulgence of the house in the commencement of his remarks. Lord R. GROSVENOR was continuing his address, when he was interrupted by cries of " Order." The SPEAKER said un hon. gentleman having taken an objection to the noble lord's proceeding, which was not strictly in order, he should suggest to the noble lord to postpone his observations until the bill came before the house. Lord R GROSVENOR, in reply to the hon. gentleman (Mr. Massey), stated that -the responsibility did not rest with him, bat with the house, and he did intend to perse vere with the bill. OFFICIAL SALARIES. Mr. W. WILLIAMS asked the First Lord of the Trea sury whether, in compliance with the vote of the house on the 22d May, the Government intended to carry into effect the recommendations of the select committee of 1850 re spectit, official salaries? Lord PALMERSTON said that the recommendations of the committee had been very maturely considered by the Government at the time. Many of them were carried into effect, and some were not. Explanations on the subject were then given to Parliament. What had passed on a former evening did not at all touch the question of official salaries; the discussion turned entirely on certain diplomatic appointments and the salaries attached to some of those appointments. The resolution wee carried, although the FOR. Orkney St. Vincent Farnham Forester Lanesborongh Cardigan Bradford SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. NEWCASTLE-ON-TYNE RACES. TUESDAY. The Trial Stakes. T.Y.C. Hospodar Fanny Bingham Five ran. Won by three lengths. The North Derby. Once round. Rotherham ... Dame Judith Hanover ..... Seven ran. Won by a neck. The Tyro Stakes. T.Y.C. Van Galen Hebe Six ran. Won by a length. The Members' Plate. One mile and a quarter. St. Andrew CardFharper • Caliph Fifteen . ran. Won by a neck. The Selling Scakes. Otte mile. Outcast Haxby Five ran. Won by a head ROYAL THAMES YACHT CLUB. Yesterday a sailing match took place on the Thames between three schooners belonging to this club. The weather was fair, and the regatta proved attractive to a large company, who embarked at London bridge nt nine o'clock on board the steam-packet Prince of Wales, ex pressly engaged for the occasion. O❑ reaching Graves end the regatta commenced, the schooners, of which a list is subjoined, starting from a flag-boat opposite that place at about six minutes before noon : Names. Tonnage. Owners. Shark Mayfly Wildfire 59 The Dawn, belonging to Mi.. Broadwood, was entered, but did not start. The Mayfly canted sound in good style and was the smartest in setting sail. The Shark fol lowed in close proximity, and the Wildfire was a bad third. In the Lower Hope the Shark shot ahead of her competitor, and kept the lead throughout. The yachts rounded the Mouse Light in the following order : Shark.... Mayfly , 2h. 37m. se. Wildfire 2h. 46m. 40s. On the return voyage, so to speak, the Mayfly, during a temporary lull, gained slightly on the Shark ' but never so much as to create a doubt of the result. The vessels reached the goal off Gravesend in the following order : Shark 6h. 43m. Mayfly 6l). 59m, Wildfire 7h. an. 30s. The prize, a splendid cup, worth 100 guineas, was ac cordingly presented to Mr. Curling by Vice-Commodore R. Green, who congratulated that gentleman on the fact that he, so young a member of this club, had by his excellent seamanship achieved so signal a victory. Jr.i Curling responded in a neat speech, and the steampackei then returned to Loudon-bridge, where she arrived safely at about half-past 9 o'clock. In the absence of Lord A. Paget, Vice-Commodore Green presided at the regatta. Among the company we observed Lord Southampton, Sir R. Carnac, Mr. Gladstanes, Colonel Parker,. Cap tains Wheeler (the treasurer), Moore, and Primble, Mr. Clowes, Mr. J. M`Caul, Mr. Warrell, &c. The fine band of the Royal Horse Guards Blue, under the able direc tion of Mr. Totten, played throughout the day, much to .the delight of the company. Mr. j. Watts did the honours of the refreshment. department, all the arrange ments of which were excellent. Seldom has a more agreeable day been spent on the bosom of Old Father Thames. RACING FIXTURES FOR 1855. JULY. Newmarket Carlisle Abingdon l9 Marlborough 24 Worcester 5 Lancaster Liverpool Odiltatn l3 Stamford l7 Nottingham l9 Chelmsford 24 Ludlow 24 Knutaford .25 Tt-ignbridge 3O Goodwood "ADVERTISEMENT •] THE WAR IN THE EAST. —POWERFG I PATENT RECONNOITRING GLASSES.— Messrs. S. and B. Solo mons, opticians, 39, Albemarle-stieet, Piccadilly. Observe opposite the York Hotel. By her Majesty's Boy '1 Letters Patent for valuable and extraordinary improvements in the most powerful and brilliant Telescopes, Camp, Race course, Opera, and Perspective Glasses, to know the distances of objects viewed through them—of great importance to the army, navy, and others.. These telescopes possess such extra ordinary powers that some 31 inches, with au extra eye piece, will show distinctly Jupiter's moons, Saturn's ring, and the double stars ; with the same telescope can be seen a person's countenance three miles and a half distanr, and an object from 16 to 20 miles. They are of larger and al: sizes, with increasing powers accordingly ; while their vary. ing rom 4 to 6 inches enable us to discover more than the above, and the Georgian, with his 6 satelli tes, &c.—The Ro y al Exhibition, 1851.2-Valuable, newly-invented, very small, powerful waistcoat-pocket glass,the size of a walnut, by which a person can be seen and known la miles distant ; they answer every purpose on the race-course, and at the opera house,,, country scenery, 8 to 10 miles. They are invaluable for shooting, deer-stalking, yachting, to sportsmen, gentlemen, gamekeepers, and tourists. Opera, and ships aro clearly seen at race-course, camp, and perspective glasses, with wonderful pevier.—Newly-constructed Spectacle Lenses of the great est transparent power. The valuable advantage deriveC from this invention is, that vision becoming impaired is p re served and strengt hened, and ver y aged persons an enabled to employ their sight at the most minute ocm, pay.ion can see with t hese l e n ses of a much less magnify ing— power—and they do not require the frequent changes to the dangerous effects of further powerful assistance. Deal . - ness—New Discovery.—The Organic Vibrator, an extraordi nary powerful, small, newly-invented instrument for deafness, entirely different from all others, to surpass anything of the kind that has been, or probably ever can be, produced. Being of the same colour as the skin, is not perceptible ; it enables deaf persons to hear distinctly at church and at public assemblies; the unpleasant sensation of singing ',wises in the ears is entirely removed ; and it affords all the assist ance that possibly could be desired. 39, Albemarle-street, Piccadilly. Observe opposite the York goto)4 COUNTRY ,VARKETS. LIVERPOOL—JUNE 29. A better attendance of millers and dealers 10-day, a a more business done than of late. Wheat and flour at last week's extreme prices, but the actual transsction; were few. Oats and oatmeal at fully late rites. BarleY in good demand for bread purposes, and some quantity taken by Welsh purchasers at full prices. Beans declined 6d to is, aud.lndian corn 2s to 2s 6d per qr. on the week, with desirous sellers of the latter article. IPSWICH—JUNE 26. We had' only a small supply of wheat. The trade was not brisk enough to make sales, but prices were very fir'''. and fully maintain last week's rates. No barley on offer,. and we saw no other spring corn. PER QUARTYR. PER QUARTER. •Wheat, red (old) 76s to 78e Barley, grinding ... ..... 483 to 508 Ditto (new) —s to —s Beans .......... Ditto, white (new) 80s to 866 Peas .................. 403 to 428 Ditto (old) —s to —s,Ditto (white) ...... --s , Barley, malting ----5 to --- 6 AVERAGES FOR TUE WEER ENDING JUNE 23, 15 55 . Wheat • 543 quarters, at 75s 01 Oats Peas . 2O 44s Od Bears Barley HIILL--JuNE 26. A good attendance of farmers, with a smal l show r atfp• eof saw pies of wheat. The market very firm, at fully he obtainable last market day, and in some instances the): were exceeded by is per qr. Foreign wheat unaltere,_ Not so much life in spring corn as last week. Linseedna.l its products are very lively, and cakes which have adva . 15s per ton during the week seem likely to a continuance of war—rape cakes consequently attract at tention. Bones have declined 20s during thew eek. I. go higher witn: s. Wheat, English, red Et a 1 black ---- Dantzie and Konigs- Ditto white 76 to 78 I Peas, grey and. 80 to 82 Linseed, Black Sea... 0 to. „7 Ditto Potersburgh ... 6 3 I° " berg 7B to 82'Ditto Riga and Arch- PoineranianandHaro - angel ........ . ...... burgh Danish, Holstein, and Friesland 6B to 72 1 a toot' Russian and Odessa 1 Mosel ............... i t V o t i 63 to 68Lins.e., Hull 11/ lls 0 _ , Oats, English • 30 to 32 1 Ditto fine for. Ditto Danish _,. Ditto Friesland 30 to 32 Rapeseed.. •••.,,,,,, fi c i to 00s C Ditto Russian 29 to 31 Rape eakes...l-5 - s s, t o 44 / 0 s — .I to / 0 9 ' 1 1 : Barley, malting Ditto grinding 44 to 4 3 8 5 oDnitatuoof.o.i...e.i.gn .... •1/ I • 43 to 47 Bones Beansoo/ Os 8/ to , Ditto foreign Peas, white and yel. 44 ............ to 46 1 Rye Meal ........... --s 06 to 120 , l : to -' COURSE OF EXCHANGE.—YrsTEEDIT. • np Amsterdam.— •• .... n 18q Gibraltar ..-• •• ...• 9 ~ Ditto, three months .. 11 19% Leghorn • • "•• • • • ....• 25 • Rotterdam ............ 11 19% Genoa ................. Antwerp ' • ' Antwerp ••••.• •• •• .... 25 35 Milan .• •• •••.• • • • .. —,.• Brussels .....•........ 25 35 ' Venice .....• •• • • •.. -14'3 Ilamburgh ............ 13 7 Naples •••'•• " ' • • • . •••• 1:) ,,,, Altona .. ............ , Palermo ••••• • ' • • • ..... 1 . - ,7 Paris ........ - ..•..... 25 15 1 Messina •••••• • • .. • • 5 „ . 1„ . .. Ditto. thre ; months .. 25 40 1 Lisbon .• • ....... ••, . • • Marseilles .... ........ 25 40 I Oporto .• •• ••" '• "....• Bourdeaux -. ••.. .... Rio Janeiro ..... • • ... Frankfort-on Maine .... 118% B ue nos Ayres. •• " • , • ,i g ht '— Berlin ................ New York, 6,) days .... -- Viena5t,.......• ........ 12 26 Philadelphia • • ••:• s, 1 ,,, 1 ox., Trieste .... ...... •• .... 12 28 PRICES CF e a r stri• i x',3 i 7 Petersburg ............ 35% Foreign Gold in .a s 0 0 , (3 1 - Madrid ........... ”.. 50 Portugal Go ld Coin • • 0 4 , 1 Callz ) •• ••••.. • • .... „. 50% Mexican Dollar!' •• • ' 0 0 , Barcelona ............ NOW Dolla rs .. •• " 0 0 u Seville.. •• •• .... •. •• ... -- Silver in bars ••• " SEABORNE MAIM. (1 1 algatfles that the mails are sent from the Cruet M , the night—and M by the morning—despatch') COW TRIES. Day when inade up rrotP in General Post- Port p,:ancl Offizo, London.. Pipe.. - - '" America(byßrit.pack)N Every Friday .... LiverPo °l '' Araericp, by United Ste. 00 1 .** jUne 21 packet) ..Ti........ .. -.•.• • • I LiVerP 1 America (by U. Statw packet) .. .. • ..N ... ••.. . • 'SiouthataPtoni Islet due ° Australis (via South- Jane ° 'MPtc' r ampton) ..........M —••- • • • South. . Ditto (via Marseilles) N ...... - - • • 'Dover ..,. • ~ o Ditto (via Cape of Good, roC 4 7. - Hope) ............N i Africa (West Coast). .Nl23d of the month .. myri outh • , Alexandria.... .. .. .. N , 4 , 9, 24,& 30 ofm. Dover .... •', Alexandria ..........m 4th & 20th of mon.isoutharnPn!,! Bahamas ... .. .. .. -ru Id 17th of the onthlgouthaulP. •',paw Belgium ............N Gaily ...........• foyer ... •_.june 16 Brazil .... - ........M 9th of the month.. SonthatnPro:: je ll 1 0. Buenos A yres .. ......14 9th of the month.. Southa n 'l 4 ,,,is IWO " Cape of Good Hope ..1i VarioUS Yv' Cape of Good Hope ..N Cape de Verde ......N 9th of the month Southampton Ceylon (see India) P Ceylon ..............N t ii Channel Isles ........N Ifon.,Wed.,&Frie:. Sonthara° • l q, I. ITe Chili- .• • • • • • • .. .. .. lin 2/1 & 17th of month SouthallW) Ijulf 2 " China ..... .. Once a month.... Constantinople ......r 8,13,18,23,&28 ot m Dever s• ' ' t ,;; ) I ~.„,..,,t; Constantinople ........ 4th .t 20th of mon. SouthenP - Tifi , ' Cont. of Europe M & N Twice daily ...,, .• Dover •• • • '• I ce I , • Egypt (see India) France . ..... .. M& N Twice daily.. .. Dover •• 'ton g Gibraltar .. .. .. .. ..3 , 1 4, 7,17 , 20, 27 of m . gout/1 00 1 Greece (see India) tol l Greytown .. ..M 2nd & 17th of mon. Southalli, 11111 I 1 Hamburgh ..........N Tuesday & Friday London ..;,..);,:jull flavannah ..........51 2nd of tha month Soathaa DAili Holland ............P4 Daily ......„ .... Dover •-';;;) .7° ll . 20 Honduras .......... Xi 17th of the month. 6outhaillP •, leo. India (viaSonthampt.)M Ith & 20th of mon. plymo Utti . I India (via Marseilles)M 9th&2sth of month Dover '''... __, l , 'f' '' lonian Isles (see India) 1, 17, & 27 of mon Doyen" .. ' ', l " e 2i Ireland ........M & N Twice daily ...... Holyhead io';, Jun Li5b0n..............M 7,9, 17, &270 f m. SouthavaPoi 1 Madeira ••.••• • • • • ••111-9th of the month South on f ~, .7 1,1 Y Madeira ............N 23d of month ...-. Liver P oe Malta (see India) . • •• •", Malta ..............N 8,18, & 28 of mon. DOVOr . 1 Mauritius (see India) Mauritius ..........N 14th of the month v r,pton Jllll Blexloo ..... ...... .31 ind of the month., South- ..., Naples ..............N s thl 6 th 2s thorm on. Dover ton if f!I New Granada ......M 2 d & 17 th of mon th Soutildwii.,, tiriCe New Zea1and.......... By private skip ..IVarlouS P . ..': i Papal States ........N sthlsth2sthofmon Dove r am * • oolll Peninsula ..........N 7thl7th27thofinon. Sou th a ___„ 4 ,,,, c _.,, Peru •• •••••• •• ....111 id & 27th of mon, South ... m,..: cr t s Vri c , ' Port Natal ..........N By private ship.. ,iVarioll' v . „, i Over •• • Sicily ..............N ithl6o,2,stholmon, 70 , . , l nover* .• ' ' .1113' Tuscany ..„„ ........N Sthlsth2sthofmon..- . _...,tan Venezuela ..........31 24& 17th ofmonth Soutzt. , 'Y I Van Diemen's Land (sec ',Tull I Australia) ...• West Indies .. .. .. ..1‘ 2d & 17th of month ISOII- • " •-; Whenany of these dates fall on a Sunday, tho mo D om sOstchod on tho following day with the excoptiftn of 107..,,h0 Southampton), and the 3/alto:both of which will bo d001 ) . - preceding day. , *"------------ mmlE:Tr.—We have read with much P ADVERT Barry's MiS; El spirits , Du B report on the care of diseases without mecuct:e, arry's Food. The following are a few extracts ~,,u! appear_ ss to merit the attention of many :—Cure No. 47, 1 : 4 ' Mi ierts Elizabeth Jacobs, of Nazing Vicarage, Walthanrcrio. ~ and nervous fancies. cure jags low: a cure of extreme nervousness, digestion, g_a.t.i.., —Rosstrevor, county of Down, 10 years iza , beth Yeoman GatCRCTO, near itiverP"iiit:buillit From the Dowaaer C t f Castlestuart : dyspepsia and all the horrors of nervous_ . 52,0 ,; ~.. oun ess 0 1 184 Ireland 9th Dee-, • • The Dowager ' 'Minced in - Countess of Castlestuart feels ~ 4 in ere st of suffering humanly to state that Du DaITY sato'. celle4 Revalenta Arabicai Food has cured' her, / all mediciues had failed, of indigestion, bile, gr_.(', standing. V nervousness and irritability of m any Yea rs' Food d be ac !;,T eserves the confidence of all sufferers, and may re:,,. sidered a real blessing. Enquiri es will be eheerfullY aDswel'i. In canisters, lib. 25. g. 9d ; 2113. 4s. 6d.; 51b. 11s. ; 1211k a ! Du 121 b., carriage free, .on receipt of Post -office order. ]3.,,r u Barry d' C 0.,. 77, Regent-street, London ; rase at I° Piccadilly ; 60, Uracechurch-street ; 330, and 451, Str3s. .4 5 , 5 Cheapside ;60 and '6B, Coruhill Bishopsgate-sles , Charing - cross; 54, Upper Baker-street ;63 et.,le rst. Oxford-street ; 89, High-street, Camden -town ; J o • b ,' 4 0 0 1 fr m u all; 7, Pall-mall -Bast ; 132, New Bond-street ; -,', ' c i g iv, omb-street ;, 13, King William-street, City 3 0, el Slip street; 21, (lockspur-street ; 95, Farringdon-streetu; 6 , Paul's Churchyard ;6, Edward-street, Poi tron- Eci r°. suo . 1 °,1.018:1;04. ~." ZIRTHS. OF A SON. •r,,, ay 83 114 ." On the 23cfinst, at 42, Thurloe-square, the -"" ~,, joloes Dent. the g' , ./T On the 25th inst., at Bromley-common, gent, - • of the Rev. A. Rawson. . 0 &ent'IPPA4 On the 25th inst., at 4, Chester -place, -l' e p ,i , the wife of, the Rev. John G. Lonsdale_,• •, Audio" '1 On the Witil inst., the wife of 31r. AY. C. e , 6, Haymarket. . ge gen. .• ..veov , On the 24th inst., at 6, Park -village — park, the wife of Thomas E. Chitty'. . OF A DATIGHTS IC. On•the.26th inst., at 5, Eaton-p Wei the Wife::51:::1: Heywood, Esq., M.P. squa re, ..-- ' On the 26th inst., at 25, Hyd-park- Hill. , w ife of; r' On the 25th inst., at Ridge House, Leedi's the fl ,, i W. Tetley, Esq. , Loddef, "I On the 22d inst., the wife of Brevet-DIN° Regiment. On the 23d inst ,AlatACßhn'Est ICEhuPrch. ~ 31 131 : e° T r in is r:f.? , Mr. Edward T. Tom . kins, younger sou 0/ • Liar of ~... ' Fleet-street, to Sophia Amelia:young t.. daughter , of 'thees. ..1-tigui, Burch, Nelson-square On the 25th i t Nelson-square. ns -, il St Mary's Church , -.. - "c adillg iia j nf :'; Barry, E sq . to I '. • of osp b,e ~ D Urrey. late sao e Jamesl laDor.vvotbhve,li Es'ite; .11 oxforc:r On the 23d inst., at Ffeadington parish cn 1; 0 :_!, i peoi, ! n hir .. e, Robert Brough-Watson, Esq., of Swals ”."'Aie 15; 4 i Ge t o h rg e e E p as a t ve ß n i p d o i i n t g ; Es to ci. M , oafrioa,xftohridr, daughter ot .x. D I E D. On the 24th inst., in Eaton-square, the 121 o f cioe Sophia Scott, fourth daug hter of the la t e Aar melt. n the 24th inst., Thomas Wood, : 1 0 the Aldermen of the city of London aged 59- dock, On the 24th inst., at Claphata-rise,Cuthburt Woo Esq., aged 77. • htshire. On the 23d inst. at Rusko House, Sirlccudbrig /00, N. 8., Michael 31' ' Chlery, Esq., of Finsbury-circas, don, aged 48. Will ter On the 31st nit., before Sebastopol, of fever, Simpson, Esq. M.D., of the 17th Foot. s be' On the 2d ult., killed. whilst on duty the trench e be Esq., forwerly one ' fore Sebastopol, Lieut. J. H. S. Carterß o yal grie f° eldest son of Rear-Admiral Carter, aged'2l. On the 16th inst. at 11, Brand-street,Blandford-8411111 Captain Thomas Gould, late of t h e Dorset Mil itia, ag 75. On the 22d inst., at Southampton -place, Eurton-squsre' Richard ,Goodwin, Esq., aged 52. On the 24th inst. , at 27,' D over street, Mary Catb°l.ive' the wife of Dr. Paris. ~~~ 1 - _ tArri t LONDON : Printed and Published by IdllltDO of No. 112, Strand, Printer, at l'he Sun Office, So• oxl i Strand, in the Precinct of the Savoy. in the 00 61111 Middlegies, Wednesday, Juno ‘A'7, 18C75. 4 , t t tn lit' tt i , h t c, e_qt. 0 14,1