The Sun. — London, England, 1820-06-08 00:00:00

/ lan, when re the Br' he sPuli e re' ide on 0 16 bt Hon' ion of th e and given it ;gb sito• imoiirs to ally gran t : nod thAr th at that he House, , of ess, by she had her in the rued Gen' that it wa 9 forward, a hich they irters, hu t ; natnie n. tidy to that amount should he. feranted now, that tie sub 3"t might never again come before Parliament. This, liad been proposed to the Queen, and he bad no . he sitation i n say i ng, that when propose d, th e on ly condi tttl.n coupled w i t h i t was t h e st i pu l at i on th a t she slionld train at ) road. Now, with respect to the proposition 11 the Queen - should ;;ire up her title and all the Osts attached to her situation, he did not know that such .peposition been made, or could lie made. Nothing i,rsid been propos e d to her but au arrangement by which it x hoped that all debatesof a hostile nature might he avoid " It was understood that 110 proposition to the Queen to '°t4. " , -ter her rielits its Queen could he valid without the inj lerference of th e Ltegisiatme, and without an Act of Parlia t• Ministers lied been anxious that sushi measures should adapted as should press it all future conflicts, both at loose and abroad, b etween the illustrious parties. It was obvious, that , 'at if her M. • • • • . ,1 1 • F 1 lot h l Kin; and j tie,l7,. ad/ ,the resell would frequently be exposed to much painful ems t ii t i r ., T u stzle . lit, mi.; it we: but too evident that . there was ill untry no lack of disposition to turn such circumstances 17 a nswer the most mischievous purpose;.—(Hear, bear • e„ n t he Queen tliought proper to remain abroad, receiving z Aittl. per MIIIIIIII, her iMajesty was not reqtrired to abdicate ol her rights as (-lacer, of Eueland, but merely to do that " nl ch was the common, he might almost say, the uniform l'tsictice of persons of her exalted rank -to bear such a title t ; would not. raise that perpetual question' betvern her et 'j t 'stY (front her wish to ha received ill her public ( "OraClvr) which had been prodoctive of much paiu to the Siebert herself, and of much incotiven eoce to other parties. , l t• was not required to surrender any of her legal rights or lints what ever , and in this he oils sore he should be borne out by th e Hon. awl Learned Gentleman hiniself.who, he be tieetr'll was in posse ss ion of a document which placed the iii ,,tllllls of aliolsiers in this respect beyond the possibility of Alma j t- it ' s woos he liow stated he had no wish to screen his misconduct, or that of a ny o f his Majesty's Ministers. reproach, if it should appear \ that they had acted with ; 1 1 m - slim:is or exercised. ungenerously any influence which 5 , ' !- Y might possess. If they subjected her to any unneces ttionerited, or unbecoming restraint or contumely, 1 2,t did not wish tOrelieve himself or others front any charge that might be brought forward on this point., and he 1. 2,i , 1ied it t o be motel-stood that ne Member, by his silence ais night, would he precluded from bringing forward such a c harge if he saw reason fur it fill any future occasion. But it . `," ,1, 1 be wr ong i n hi m no t t o p u t the House in possession of ' t at he should be prepareil to contend when this suhject c ame forward at a home time. He would theft maintain t hat their conduct had been marked by no harshness unite t"lnirig them as Miuisters, or unbecoming them as men.— Here he must be allowed to tape a distinction between those t t ivileges given by the' law and constitution of the country to he Queen of these realms, aod those which usually utilise. t est , t o h er rank, hut which it was in the discretion of t "e Sovereign to iiestoa. 'These the Oueen of E"S' ,l "" did ~I t! 't enjoy o f right ; and because she was denied these pri 'lleges which it rest e d with the Sovereign to cooler, it was , t In be assumed that she was treated with injustice or op- Pr which lie tools was between the "ten of r i g h t an d t h e Q ueen o f grace and favour. Under th r Privilege of the King it was that she might be received -t Court. The King of this country was the t oaster of his . e " 41 1 Court and family, and that House was the last place in , 't itch a d ou b t on that su bi eet cou ld b e en t er t a in e d, its it had t htre been admitted that the King was the Master of his tourt its the Queen was of her drawiug.room, and his Ma ll'sty had a right without appeal to ally human brio;; to ad hiit Or exclude. from Court any one he was so disposed to • ;et by, or to treat - any t nenther of his family with either t p•our or di s c o ura gemen t. He thought it right that the should possess the power of entailime the loss of these rrt vilra'es on those wilt, were wanting to respect to the Crown. .„ ).4 , pow er oug h t to b e l ong to t h e S overei gn ; he did not say t it ought to he exercised on any impenetrable principle, bttt the privileges in question which \Vete conceded as a ir our, , not be claimed as a right. Without pursuing ' is branch of the subject further, he thought the House feel, and that the Honourable Gentleman would for tive him for saying, that because the Crown chose to with , °1 " certain favours which it was in its power to grant , earl that at a moment when a judicial inquiry was pend- I nd, it did not follow that the Crown was a ,paisty to ally tof Injustice, or course of proceeding that m i g ht ' r c luldice th e individual whose conduct was about to be t ,‘, 1e , 4 'too question. Ile should also at the proper nut oLti, contend, that the Crown was to determine whether not an v individual was to lie prayed for by name er -at he Lithrgy, and the exercise of this right ought eieWed a . s prejudging . any cause about to be tried. l "nsi: as her Majesty did nothing to force on the Crown, tt, c onsideration of the question now before them, no charge tin ' t , " . been sotight for, and nuthiug but the most cogent and st parau o int necessity could have induced them to take 4 ste which must expose the Crown and the Country to the 4 44 thous embarrassment by which they were now menaced. .', the case was- now that a new state of things must be e i tit ted from ahat it had formerly been. After the demise e ee thr tale King, sonic new arrangement became neces t, Y. It m i g h t b e a ma tt er o f pru d ence , of discr e tion, and co nsidrratiwt of couflicting interests, whether they •e ' e . T. u ' d (10 any thing in this particular case, and the Go wi."Ment actually decided that they would not act in it at „ f t , Having said thus much in explanation of the conduct (if _"e servants of the Crown, he would nut go into the details ti what had been withheld from her Majesty that it was in he ' r _Power of the Crown to bestow. Pie had, however, no a tta s ,"tion in saying, that'if that arrangement bad not been t lie with respect to the prayers which had taken place, the b u e u ei rse which must have been pursued would not only have Tirteti"obecouring, hut would base been absolutely a mockery. an ', a . tstructions given to Ministers abroad had been issued do tar back as in the year 1817, and nothing had been /a rel esates, so far as he knew any thing of the matter, be calling their their attention to the spirit and letter of those b e i n icl wAs• He had no ohjectiou to the tenor of these b e g laid before the Hous but as• they would le: a lted for in some debate e, hereafter, be would c o nfine ir see V f by stating shortly, that the object rif them was to' a am' agaiust interfering with her Majesty, or disturbing for c on ,7tellt that repose which she might promise herself cot the ea ad ' e u ,rta• , These instructions grew out of an application to act !rum a Minister to a foreign Court for instructions how jest y i t " the situati o n in which he found himself. Her Ma• la ving, as was well known, been excluded front the re it ' s it Court, it f o ll owe d as a ma tt e r of course that it could V ete fie i t .., equired that she should, be received at foreign Courts. leg e n li e u i, ters, therefore, at foreign Courts, were instructed to la tymi. ", public., o f fi c i a l ;iota:cot her Majesty, in the way of f ore 4c ll ig her to any foreign Court ; and in the event of a English oturt choosing to receive her on its own account, the te e ._ 1 : 11 A.liiiister was not to assist on the occasion. But saving Licittilistion of it public reception. it was broadly and distinctly tr eat Il s e '' , the body of their instructions, that they were to facili ty r Nia.iesty with every respect, and afford her every !ballet .and accommodation in their pow( r. 'lids was spe thatet Tovided, to facilitate her travelling 1111 the Continent, ladi u t ahi ,, ( : ) bstaele or delay might he thrown in her way if her Wile .etas or interest should call her to this country. This to the hat be N ,. O bieet and the purport o f the instructions g iven ventini at Foreign Courts; and . if the paper could sters Produced at that moment, lie hoped time statement he their made would at least induce the House to suspend th e ye i _ t !dalltent till it could be laid before them. All wh en tr':i.iviction wi s h,' to b e i mpose d _ upon h er M a j esty pub lic elibig was this, tbat she should not assume her sa ve G; :"'!raister. This suggestion was dictated hay a wish to habi t ofttutii the inconveniences to which she was in the Pres s i ee , c e xPosing herself, from her being in the habit of The ey b xt "e_rself on Foreign Courts in her public character. bad L et _ question was, whether any unbecoming spirit t„ her N t i i ,c i t ianifest e d ley Government in the reception given 4 S b e ha ?, St,Y lin her arrival in England ? Her Majesty, in which l gbetall ead sty 7 stated, was apprised of the situation n e e would stand the moment after ber landing in gav e her ‘,lz+orne might think it harsh and unkind nut 'to ford ed ,el,‘,ose facilities and honours which were usually stf th r:.1:11'lle Nlembers of the Royal Fainil V. It was however t his em mt e r ntit ered, that fur a long time prior to her leaving . utis i „ she had nut been recognised as a Member of and without abandouing that resolu. lion , aj es , * had been taken, anti had been announced to her a d h er vyas not for Mi n i s t ers to ta k e any step that might tioa, tha't they had changed ;heir del ersiiinit• rep herfle ~,,,,lntav that rentarks had been made on her taking cUuld l e in the n house of a private individual; but he flora `r Ott the part on se, t hat there existed no disposi aje,ty lit the Government to annoy or cramp her than sm.; and was sure that there was no feeling of r air t higher quarter. In proof of this he might ! t i Ves . ty () ( ti t t e . 1 , 1 ;: . 1:se the tim e . when a larger grant to her icess of Wales) had been sanctioned by butt , ogee spt a . ,spe thought it consistent in her then situa ,,,,canied by her i :. ,1 1 , e of the es 'I hey would also remember, that un the first s : s l i b een uken wi t s he had announced to the House that care (N).l..tiard against any inconvenience being le,iday. furth er l t iestY from the lapse - of her income. He state to the House, that the moment it was „ c ": , had been Queen had landed in England, a cominuni ii,... 1445 " made from the First Lord of the Treasnrr, who might most naturally expect - to receive t lllg, that ) tl re was no int en ti on 4,1 i. the part of u 'ott i tOLe su b ject s, her t o any inconvenience while the twitted to Psuliatrant tau:Mitred uuda tided, and, for any arrangements that might he necessary with respect to her residence, she had only to send to her agent, and all would he settled with due regard to her ac commodation. He denied that any disrespect was to be in ferred front the circumstana of there being no palace open to her reception. He argued at sumejougth, that there had been no disposition manifested to give her Majesty unnecessary pain ; repeated the expreSsion of the anxiety which Ministers had felt to avoid the agitation of matters painful ; and called upon the House to go dispassionately into the pro posed Inquiry, free from all that intemperance of feeliog which might disturb their deliberatioils, as the only goal which, he could assure the Hoos'e, it was the object of Government to at rive—that at which they might be enabled to do justice without favour or affection to any tarty. The House - he doubted not would treat this .question with that calm and dignified attention which they gave to all great questions, and the public, thought it would share the anguish growing out of the proceedings, would await respectfully the decision of Parliament. " said his Lordship, " if there were: any disposition to inflame the pnolic on this question, and I assure the Gentlemen opposite that I am satisfied, not only of such a wish being remote from them, but that they would be disposed to repress it wherever it might appear; but if such a disposition exists any where, and if her Majesty should unhappily have lent an ear to any mis chievous and falser (Heat !)—who would leach her that either her honour or her innocence (and I ant sure ',wish that she may he enabled to establish both) will be best vindicated by such a proceeding; I hope the feeling of the Gentlemen on that side of the House will satisfy her, that far front at taining such a result by such weans, opprobiun► and re proach will pursue her for being the dupe of such wicked and foolish men,—(Hear, hear, hear.)—l trust that her Ma jesty will ❑ow be awakened to her situation, and convinced that if she has an enemy on earth who would make her situ ation at once desperate and odious in the eyes of all good and honourable men, it is he who would advice her, by a garbled and false misrepresentation of the late proceedings —O - fear, hear:)—to appeal, not to Parliament, who would hear her complaints and do her justice, lint to those out of doors, whose passions may be excited, whose malice gratified I by disclosures that can only prove injurious to her, and calamitous to the country. If any individual, entertaining such views, should have presumed to approach her person— who, from his incapacity to give good adviee—(Hear,hear')— ; or front his desire to mislead, has conducted her into the thorny and crooked paths in which she now wanders, I hope that, roused to a sense of her real situation, site will sec • that the hest course she cars take is to bring her case in a constitutional way before Parliament, and the only course which she can take with propriety, if site wishes for justice. I now move, That the Papers yesterday communicated to this House be refers•ed to a Select Committee, to consider the master thereof, and report their opinions thereon to the HOtiSt,."—(Hear, hear, hear!) Mr BROUGHAM felt satisfaction that the hour= was at hand a hen he might freely defend that Yt incess, who was connected by blood and 1 - y marriage with the great family on which our Con stitution rested, or at least with whom it was so . knitted, that on their interest, digni!y, and popu i laxity, the welfare of the whole nation must de ; peed. This illustrious Lady, from her natural sagacity (putting the accident of her high birth out of consideration), would have instinctively shrunk from any thing that was mean, impure, or degrading. He implored 'lie House to set out dispassionately, and not -only to do that which common propriety and justice required in every case, to believe in innocence till guilt was proved, but not to suspect outward appearances which could not at first be explained, but which after a little inquiry might be satisfactorily cleared up. He called upon the House to bear in mind her peculiar situation. A foreigner, unprotected, and nearly friendless, who bad - sustained a six .. years •almost involuneary absence from England.-- Bearing these things 'in' their recollection, he thought they would not very severely blame her i 1 she had fallen into the error of listening to the honest and well meant recommendations of a friendly individual, who had desired to serve her, even though those recommendations were not (as in candour he would say he thought they were not) the recommendations of absolnte wisdom.—(A laugh.)—jt was not surprising that she should open her heart to friendly advice so given, alter the treatment she had experienced.— He was surprised that the - Noble Lord could construe the language of tier Majesty's message on the subject of the Secret Committee into an expectation that by that Committee she was to be ultimately judged. She knew that an ope►f ie quity must follow. Not to suppose that, would be to suppose that laws more monstrous than those under which Lord Strafford and the wives of Henry the Vlllth perished, were to be resort ed to en this occasion. The rickety and shat tered Government, of which the Noble Lord was the organ in that House, did not -dare to act such a part. He was convinced it would be found itn pos,ible to pass a Bill in the Secret Committee without even witnesses being examined, and without the possibility of the accused being heard. He would not, therefore, coensel the Il lustrious Personage fo look upon this either as a concession, a demonstration of kindness, or as any proof that it was better to throw herself on Par liament than appeal elsewhere. But he would wait to see what course the House took. But dal any man in his sober senses think of calling that Committee a Grand Jury--of conjuring up any sort of analogy with that unimpeachable in stitution, which did not exist ? Did. that, he would ask, did that stratagem take in any one person ? There were many persons in that House who differed both from himself and the Noble Lord ; but he would answer for it, there was not one man who was convinced by it, that there was any sort of analogy between the tribunal about to be instituted. .A Grand Jury, in the first place, were all sworn—(Hear !)—in the next, they were entirely impartial.—(Hear, bear !)--They were impartially selected—t he party empanelling had no connection with the issue—the accused, as much as the accuser, were concerned in the choos it►g of them. There was no doubt they delibe 7 rated upon ei-party evidence; but what sort of evidence ?—(Hear !)—Was it on papers and let ters—pieces of evidence, called evidence, brought from beyond the Alps by a Secret Commission, sent out by God knows whom, but now well known for what purpose, viz.—to save the Com mittee of the House of Commons the trouble of examining evidence. He stated himself to be ut terly ignorant of the contents of the papers to be laid before the Committee. He had only seen the outside, of that green bag, nothing more ; and all his-objection against it was, that the whole of the evidence was in that bag, and that there was not a living witness to be examieed, lie knew that some one would be called to prove that this was the signature of such a one—a gen tleman perhaps who had been sent out to make a residence of ten months at Milan—a member c►f the learned ; profession, who, till that ill fated hour, stood high in the reputation of the world and the esteem of his friends. That this individual shoeld have lowered himself, he confessed had both surprised and pained him. —He begged pardon for the expressions be was using, but they were canvassing 10 freely the characters of illustrious that minor considerations must yield. He must again recur to this nupleasant subject, deprecating as he did the individual and the office. To go as he did, and sit prying into the most secret acirons of do mestic life in a foreign rountry—seeking -for in formation among the. filthy wine honses—ioining iu familiar confabulations with .the bareemen of the lake, porters, cast-off servants of mistresses —those detestable characters who, to the credit of Courts of Law, scarcely ever sheaved their faces within them without having them stamped with infamy—to sit, he repeated, writing down all the tittle-tattle of these reprobate characters. Before this lie had thought better of human na ture, more of the merits of professional, honour. —(1-lear !)--In saying this he was saying what he felt at the degradation of a professional bro ther. Such low offices, he acknowledged, must he performed; but then let them be done by hands that cook) not be sullied by any species of base ness. Let no man dip a finger in such filth who was not born to degrade !he human species. lint it appeared that all that this Committee could do amounted to nothing. According to the Noble Lord, it , could not bring iu a Bill of Attainder against her Majesty, nor otherwise injure her ; because in its capacity it could not adopt any ape s ific measure its the matter. This entire harmless ness of the Committee, however, he denied. The Report of a Committee of that House was no in different matter. He would put it to any one man present, how he would like a body, consisting of 21 persons, appointed to investigate into his,cha . racter, in the appointment of whom he had no voice, and between whom and himself there were irremediable differences. How then, he would put it to that nua \ n—for he only supposed in the case the feelings of a man—how would he like, that before that Committee, selected by the servants of his antagonist, his. conduct for six long years should be canvassed, his conduct too passed at the distance of 1200 miles, without receiving a tittle of evidenCe from him, without his being per mitted either to know the nature of the evidence adduced against him, and of course without the power of refuting it ? flaying considered these objections, how would he like this Committee thus composed, and thus inquiring as it were in thrkness, to record their verdict ? Putting him in the same situation in Which her Majesty was be fore, what of his earthly goods would he not give to escape the garbled exposition of iris . character which would in consequence ensue ? If the Commi ttee should only turn out their Report, couched in the mildest terms of affirmation which it was its the power of die Noble Lord's oily rhetoric to trame; (laughter)—so long as it only said yes to the charge, that man's character• would be for ever blasted. An appeal, it was true, as was stated, might be made to open trial. But it was also to be con sidered, that in the interim the evidence might he lost, the individual might suffer greatly front illness, or he might die.—and'k.rts . it not a titration for a mall of honour that bis memory might be blighted, whilst •might not have an opportunity to restore it ? Even if he. did live, Ire must go to trial with an immeasurable weight of prejudice against him., It was in vain to liken this Tribunal to a Grand Jury. If Ministers thought her Majesty guilty on the Report of the Commissioo, let them act upon that assurance. — He strongly deprecated the coarse of Ministers on this. occasion ; they wished by the appoint ment of the Committee to screen themselves be hind names better than their own—to seek shelter from the public gaze—to cover themselves up from the public eye. But they had of their own responsibility come down to the House with 'this Message, and they ought•to face it as men, and as all Ministers should do. By going into an inquiry in the manner of a Secret Committee, no one could know that this inquiry was iu fact going on, the very, existence of it even•could not be known, He would just as lief take the opi nion of 'Ministers as of such a Committee, with this.single distinction, that the verdict r of the one would leave no_stain upon the character of this unfortunate Personage, whilst the other would un doubtedly leave a very sleep one. (Hear !) This was the broad ground on which he viewed the question Ile visited every one to consider whether he would like, not his whole character, but even any peculiarity of his character, to be judged by•sneh a tribunal ; and as h e would answer for himself, so he might answer for the Qeeeo. - - The elements arid whole tormatioo of the tribunel constituted in his mind''sili, unpardonable objection. With re gard to the precedents, he moSt confess he was astonished to find them mentioned' as deserving any weight. The practice of proceeding by green bags lie was aware had before been resorted to in cases of High Treason and Seditious Bills ; but he might say, that . front his peculiar way of thinking on that subject, lie did not think the better of this proceeding on account of 'the pre cedents afforded in those cases. Bat throwing those out of view, he came to the precedents, of Bishop Atterbury and Sir Thomas Rumbold. The elkrge against the latter person came, to be sure, out of a Secret Committee,' but 'then it was to be remembered that it art:se incidentally—the Se cret Committee sat upon subjects C01111CC:rd with East India Affairs, awl_ the subject of the charge came out unexpe.ctedly ; and then the whole mat ter was finally investigated at the Bar of the House, and witnesses regularly examined. He did not know what any accused person could wish better than this. Then with respect to the case of Bishop Atterbury, there was also this striking difference, that there the Committee bad the power to examine witnesses,—(Lord Castlereagh here intimated that the present Committee would also have the power of examining witnesses.) — Well then, it appeared they were to he all Owed to examine witnesses, in the absenee of the party ac cused, without her Majesty knowing any thing of t hem, who theywere or theisattireof their testimony, rand in the absence of liar Majesty's professional advisers. He would now come to the observations of the Noble Lord with respect to the proposal made by Government to the Illustrious Personage in question. The Noble Lord's arguments were correct in a constitutional point of view, as to the right of Government to make that offer, doing it merely under the expectation that Parliament would afterwards sanction it'. Whether the offer was to be viewed in the light of a bribe or nor, was not the question, 'Athu offensive part of the proposal was, that 50,0001. should be given to her, not only on condition that she should live out of the country, which was in itself a most exceptionable proposition, but what appeared to hint infinitely worse, notwithstand ing the special pleading of the Noble Livid that a renunciation of title was not a renuncia ation of rights. But this part of the proposal be looked upon as neither more nor less than calling upon the Queen to say, that, if she was not guilty. 'she was at least nor altogether•innocent. The Noble Lord said, the Qetten could not be called upon to renounce her regal rights, as it was not in her power to do so without the consent of Parliament: This, in point of fact, was the case ; but why then should she be celled on to g ive up the exercise of them ? 'She was to renounce the title and style of Queen, which, said the Noble Lord, MRS doing no more than WAS ordinarily done by persons of rank when travelling abroad, who usually went under assumed names. But, he he lieved, it would be found, that where a Royal Personage concealed their real name and rank un der a feigned name, it was always the name of one of the branches of the same family ; and it was well known, at any rate, that this was done solely with a view to the convenience of the party, and was only done pro impure. ale express condition in the proposal to her Majesty was, that she should not only abandon her own title, but that she should not take !het of any ether branch of the family. Observe again the difference between a person of knout: doing this as a matter of convenienee, and for a season only, and of a person taking such a step for the sake of getting 50,0001. and adopting it for ever. Such had been the proposition made to her- Nits jesty. Strongly impressed as he was with the absolute necessity of some amicable settlement being come to, he had felt himself under the painful necessity of advising her Majesty not to accede to the terms proposed to her. The Honourable and Learned Gentleman here com plained Of the injury which had been done both 'to himself and his Illustrious Client, - by the erroneous statements which bad got into the Daily Papers of the part he performed in the negociation at St. Omer's. He would only state one specimen, and leave the House to judge of its' injurious effects. In one of the,Daily Prints it had been stated, that after her Majesty had ex pressed her indignatiou at the proposition made to her, he (Mr. 'B.) counselled her Majesty not to accept the proposal. If the word after were to be erased, and the word before , tut in its place, the case would he rightly stated. He had. anti cipated her Majesty ie counselling her rejection, .+'l° was however extremely ready to expeess, her indignation. The Royal Personage its question had since confirmed the truth of ttee staternent he now made. He had the more reason to complain of the error, as its another' public Journal (The Morning Post), it bad been repeated, and most unwarrantable liberty taken with the mimes of Lord Hutchinson and himself, inasmuch as an argonomt was built upon this statement, that the Qaean's cause must have been a bad one, or be (Mr. B ) would not have advised her to accept the proposal. Ile cer tainly bad counselled her Majesty's rejection of it with great pain, because he had hoped to have put an end to the present question by an arrangement. He might add, that if other propositions had hem offered to her Majesty, which as a woman of ho nour she could have accepted, end which it would not have been inconsistent with the honour of Government to have offered, nor with justice for her to accept, lie should have counselled her to accept it ; always giving. the preference to an honourably private arrangement all others whatsoever. Who should presume to say where the inquiry was to stop when wive gone into 1 They who counselled the CrOwn upois this occasion, if they did roit •t: mit w, .oughtato know that a certain line since 'reseed, every tiling must be told---not merely hotv.the Ilium loos Pere sonage had been treated by Foreign Powers, and British Ministers at Foreign all the private anecdotes and trause i ctioos of certain Il lustrious Personages would be involved,' and must be disclosed and hiid open to the public eye. In that case. we might be exposed to see such another Session as .occurred eleven years ago, when all interest in the ordinary topics of gossip or of politics Were completely swal lowed' tip in the subject which then engrossed all attention, the liiiserie transactions of one Most Mush-rises Individual —(Hear. hear !) He must be a nrisn of miraculous sagacity, and he did net think ihe Noble Lord '(Castlereagh) that man, who could foretel what consequences might ensue fienn the coeflictiug interests of two pries, atter this question were once entered upon. He maintained that he must be a held man who would heedlessly plunge the country into an inquiry of this kind, if there was a possibility of putting a stop to it.---(Cheers front both sides of the House.)--He most'earnestly eotreated the House, for the sake of all - the'parties—for the sake -- of the 'people=-for the ' sake"of their wives and daughters, that we might . not 'again be placed in such a 'state that it was impossible to take up a Newspaper which did not contain something dangerous to morality. In the name of Heaven he implored them to wait fin. a little to see if it were not possible to do something to put ae end, to this matter.—(Cheerq—lle was booed to obey the command's of the Queen, which were peremptory, tie challenge' this inquiry ; yet, be would even venture . to Thwart her wishes, if it ap peared to him that there was yet any road open to negociation. kie eras' convinced that if the in quiry were to be gone into, it %Stout& not he of that shott duration anticipated by that Noble Lord. The Queen, in common justice, tntorriee allowed to send her green bag down to ebe e seme Cotn miriee. She must be allowed tits bringoeithesses to refute those brought against . bere--andees the would probably have to ko to Milatelo.fi?itif the time must be greatly lengthened; tor t holyt the Milan Board had sat' for 10 months, 'to hod matter of accusation, which might not requi : ii ten days to blow boo air, yet it would be cede cessary to inquire into character, menner of lifee! &c. or the w iinesses. One of the principal witnesses to be brought forward, was re s'er-' yam who was discharged from her - MajestYl. loinsehold for the crime of felony—'-(Hear , and the peasant who was the witness of it was at _ over