The Sun. — London, England, 1849-06-13 00:00:00

tri) trZt 92trition NEWTON RACES. (THIS DAY.) (BY ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH). The Golborne Stakes. Jack Briggs ... ... ... Seignior or Holderness ... The Manor Cup. Pity the Blind ... Westow ... ... 2 ... 1 ... 2 HAMPTON RACES. (THIS DAY.)-BY EXPRESS. The Railway Plate. Marlhrook Holloa ... The Corinthian S:akes. Lady Francis ... Tit Bit ... ••• The Surrey and Middlesex Stakes. Chicot ... M,gnon ... 2 ... 2 ... 2 SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. NEW MARKE r FIRST OCTOBER MEETING, 1849. TUESDAY.—Duke of &dila-Ws Beauvsle, Bst 7113, agst Sir J. Hawlev's Quimn,berry, 7st 111 b, D.M., 100, h ft. SECOND OCTOBER MEETING, 1849. MONDAY.—Sir J. Hawley's Queensberry, Sst 71b, agst Duke or Bedford's Minto, 7st 111 b, T.Y.C., 100, h THIJITSDAY.—Duke of Bedft.rd's Quasimodo 9 Bst 91b, apt Sit. J. Hawley's Queensberry, B st 31b, R.M., 100, h ft. BETTING AT MANCHESTER—TUESDAT. NEWTON MANOR CUP.-5 to 4 agst Ellerdale (t)- 5 to 2 agst We,tow (0-7 to 2 agst Pity the Blind (t) p —5 to lat Keleshea (0. Swans Boy does not run. NEWTON BOROUGH CUP.-2 to lon Mahon (0-5 to 1 eg• t 'Thibault (0-7 to 1 agst Smuggler Bill (0 NEWT , I7 ST. LEGER. —6 to 4 agst Strougbow (0-5 to 1 agst Melody ()-5 to 1 ag-t, Magician (t). LIVERPOOL CUP.-9 to 2 agst Essedsrius (t)-6 to 1 agst Peep-o'-thay-Loy (t)-7 to 1 agst Can-zoo (t)-10 to 1 agst L Pupgarou (i) —l5 to 1 agst Lady Masham (0. NORTH EMBE RLAND PLATE —5 to 2 agst Malton (0 —5 to 2 apt C. os-4ek (t)--I0 to I agst any other. CRICKET MATCH —(THIS DAY.) MARRIED PLAYERS OF ENGLAND v. SINGLE. This match was cumawnced on Monday at Lord's. The weather was not so cheering as the lovers of this game could wish, althi ugh some very fine cricket was exhibited. 113- following is the score:— MARIIIED.—EfIIST INNINGS. Dean Clarke run out Hiilyer Box N. Felix, Esq. A. Mynn, Esq. .... ....... c t% iaden, b Chester 2 Earl of Verulam W. Pilch .. Dakin... . t.. Whitehead, Esq. ... . ..•.. b Wisden ... Lilly white ...... c Parr, b Armitage B 16, wO, nb 0... Total 203 S/NGLE.—TIRST INNINGS.' Hon. R Grimston b Lii ywhite 26 A. Haygarth, Esq. ... . at Box, b Dean 24 Guy c Hißyer. b Lillywhite 0 F. Pilch blartingell.- 1N laden .. b Lillywhite 0 Armitage .. ... Parr .. b Dean Chester R. Kynaston, 1•:Fq. W. Nicholson, E.:l. ........... not out 86,w0, nb 5 ...... Total IBJ )TARRIED.—SECOND INNINGS. Dean Cliake Hillyer S. Nicholson, b Wisden.i. ... 32 Box .... ... ... N. Felix, EN. .. A. Myrni, Esq. Earl in Verulain bv , artiiigell W. Pilch, b. Widen .. b Wiadea Dakin . S. Wh 'ehe E qd W . - ttehead, sq. LillywhiLe , b Wisden B 16, w 2, nb 0 lB Total 147 SINGLE-SECOND INNINGS. Hon. R. Grimston ..... ...... b Hillyer ..... .... A. Haygarth, E,q. GUY F. Pilch Alartinge.ll..... .............. ... c Vt , hitehead, b Lillywhite 1 Parr ... b Hillyer Chester R. Kynaston, E-q. ... ...... ... not out ... ....... . W. Nicholson, Esq. ...... ...... c Box, b Dean 32 B 12, w 0, nb 0 . l2 Total .. l7l Th single winning by three wickets. The match did 10: terminate until `salt-pa , t five this afternoon. FROM THE LONDON GAZETTE OF TUESDAY. I)IVIDEN US. At th:l Giurr, Basingh4ll-street. W. Watmt.nan, Brenehley. Kent, farmer, July 4, L. alert n —G. G u • terov, Paradise-walk, Quten's-roAd West, Chettiea, Builder, July 3, at eleven. Yll EN OF DIVIDENDS. W. Thorpe, Goole, Yorkshire, nviscei Is. 9.1 i. on any Tuesday, hetwceu the hours of eleven and two, at the office (,E Mr. Hope, Leeds. F. C. Matthuws, Driffh-ld, Yorkshire. manufacturing, chemi,t, 63. 81., on any Tu9sday, between the hours of eleven avid two, et the office of Mr. Hope, Leeds. It. Yates, Ilinchfst , r, coal agent, I 7-16 d., on any Tog Flay. between the hours of ten and one, at the office of Mr. Hobson, Manche3ter. H. Iteb , rts P-‘llheli, Cgrnarvonshire, draper and gro cer, 4s. on any Thursday, between the hours of eleven and two, at the office of Mr. Turner, Liverpool. NOTICES OF CERTIFICATES, At thy Court Baglnghall•street. F. Bra'n, Ttiornas serer -t, Stamford -street, Blackfriars road, ivory, bone, and hard waidcutter, July 4, at, eleven —W. Stevens, Acton-street, Gray's Inn-road, builder, July 3, at eleven— T. Marsom, South-place. Finsbury, horse dealer, July 4, at halt-past eleven —C. Lee, Marl borou4h-road, St. John's-woo t, jeweller, July 4, at twelvi.—E. Gibson, Sr. Alban's, banker, July 3, at twelve—S. K en, and W. Lang'ord, John-street, Pen tonville, brewers, July 3, at eleven. At. the Com t of Review, July 3. A. P. Halliday and El za Paton, Cornbrcok, near Manc! - I-stcr, inanufac:uring chemivs—T. W, n dover, Buckinghatnshire, cattle•dettler—H. Ridstialo and IL C. S. Chauticy, Liverpool, share brokers—H. Fen wick, Liverpool banker—W. H. Pitt, York-place, Pen tonville, engineer —J. It , ,g era, Northumberland-street, Strand, oil and Italian warehousemen—G.6. Y. Bricknell, Chel!enhain, coach proprietor—T N Kerr, Biggleswade and Southill, Bedterdsh-re, miller —J. Nash, Globe where, Rotherhuhe, and Stroud, Kent, tin3l3lr and hop merchant—H Loisel, jun., and A. Edan, Hatton garden, foreign provision merchants—J. Downs, Newcastle-un der-Lyme,tistimong, r. PARTNERSHIPS DISSOLVED. T. W. Wiley and S. Dixon, Finsbury-street, Finsbury square, printing press nrinuracturkrs—E. Ryley and S. Fitton, Bursleen, Staffordshire, corn millers—W. Philp and E. Philp, Launceston and Callington, Cornwall. booksellers and stationers—S. Tiley, W. Williams, and W. James, Henlis, Monwoutbebire, quarrymen—S. Ni chols and A. Nichols, Leicester—T. Thompson and G. Thompson, Liverpool, chemists—M. Walker, and T. Walker, Bingley, Yorkshire, manufacturers and worsted spinners —E. Ducker and J. Bayne, Chester, booksellers and sta'iolers—J. Attey and J. Davison, Newcastle upon-Tyne, grocers and provision dealers—F. A. Chowne and F. LIM' le, Regent-street, foreign importers and silk mere.rs—F. Sherlock, 11. H. Gear, and G. E. M. Strat ton, Chandoa street, Cavendish. square, and Bermondsey z:nanu fat tureri of artificial manures—G. Greenwood and D. Greenwood, Wethi-rby, Yorkshire, corn-millers—J. Campbell and J. Macfie, Kingston, Jamaica, merchants and general agents—W. B. Gilson, H. Gilson, and R. B. Gilson, Manchester, stock tnanu+acturers. INSOLVEN f PETITIONERS. Anne Rice, Neath, Glamorgansbire, grocer. Mark Anthony Robinson, York, chemist. James Wright Strensall, North Riding of Yorkshire, blacksmith. Joseph Scott, Tanshelt Pontefract, Yorkshire, engineer. William John Clipcott, Portsmouth, builder. D.svid Freeman, East Recford, Nottinghamshire, car penter. Thomas Wardner Well ngton Spear, Sheerness, clerk, Royal Navy. SCOTCH SEQUESTRATIONS. J. Grey, Perth, grocer, to meet June 20 and July 11, at one, within the City Hotel, Perth. J. V% at t, Crosahill and Dalmel'ington, Ayrshire, tailor, to meet June 19 and July 10, at one, within the Ayr .Arms Inn, Ayr. E. B. Fraser, Inverness, dealer in shares, to meet June 19 and July 13, at one, within the Caledonian Hotel, Inverness. LIATMARIEET THEATRE.—Her Majesty and Prince Altert hunnured this theatre with th. it presence last night, to witness the performance of Macbeth, in which the principal characters were, as usual, played by Mr. and airs. Cnurks lean and Mr. J. Walaek. THE SPANISH STEAM FRIGATE PIZARRO.—An exp,,timental trip down the river took place yesterday with this fine vessel, built to order of the Spanish Go vernment by Me-i-rs. Wigrain and Sons, and fitted with en airics of 350-horse power by Messrs. Miller, Raven hilt, Co. on arriving at the measured mile in Long Reach the titre was taken, and the speed of the vessel ascertained to be 10,909 knots against the tide, the time occupied in running tne nautical mile being 5.30 minutes. On aga'n trying her with the tide the speed was found to be 13.091 hoots per hour, the distance being & emu ,. plisheii in 4 35 minutes, making an average speed of 12 knots per hour. The vessel is 187 feet lung by 30 feet in breadth, and the depth of the hold 20 feet, and she is upwards of 500 tons burden, fitted to carry two ed - pounder guns on traversing platforms, and four 32. pounder guns on her upper deck. The Paarro is the third war-steamer built by the Meters. Wig= for the Spanish GoTernment.! THE SUN, , fourtt Wbition SUN OFFICE, Seven o' Clock. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. (THIS DAY.) HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Twelve o'clock. PRIVATE BUSINESS. The report on the Dublin, Ashbourne, Slane, and Drogheda Roads Act Continuation and Amendment Bill was considered and agreed to, and the Bill ordered to be engrossed. The Great Indian Peninsula Railway Company Bill was read a second time and ordered to be committed. PE rITIONS. Mr. HODGES presented several petitions from Kent, pray ing the repeal of the hop duty. Mr. FRE WEN presented petitions numerously signed from the following places:—Battle Rye, Iden, Play den, Ticehurst, Bexhill, and Hollington, Salthurst, Ewhurst, and Bodiam, Ashburnham and Pentiurst, Bude and Westfield, L•klesham, Pett and Guestling, Nintield and Hove, Rubertsbridge and Etchingham, Wittingham and Harttield, Peasmar.h and Iloilo:lore, Ilailshau! and Htl lingby, Beckley and Northiam; also petitions fro m . Mountfi.-Id, Whatlington, and Seddleacomb, praying for the repeal of the war duty on hops.. Mr. PEACOCK presented a petition from Southamp ton in favour of the Marriage Bill. Lord 11. VANE presenttd a petition from Stockton on-Tees in favour of international arbitration. Mr. BROWN presented a petition from Manchester in favour of the Bankruptcy Amendment Bill. Mr. BANKES presented petitions trom Bristol and Clifton in favour of the Bill for the prevention of cruelty to animals. Mr. CHARLES LUSHINGTON presented a petition from the fishmongers and p o ulterers o f the metropoli s , praying the House to prohibit the sale of fish and poultry after 10 o'clock on Sundays. Mr. REYNOLItS presented a petition from the mer chants, factors, grocers, and dealers in Irish spirits, of Ballibay, praying to be placed on an equal tooting with the manufacturers, importers, and dealers of foreign and colonial spirits. Mr. MULLINS presented a petition in favour of the Bill for the prevention of cruelty to animals. Mr. -COWEN presented a petition from Messrs. W. and R. Chambers, publishers, of Edinburgh, praying for a repeal of the excise duties on paper. Also a petition in favour of the Bill fur the prevention of cruelty to I animals. ' Mr. A GLIONBY presented a petition in favour of the Copyhold Entranchi,ement Bill. Sir J. PAKING . ION presented a petition from the poor-law officers of a union in Northumberland, pray ing for a superannuation fund. NOTICES OF MOTION. Mr. BANKES gave notice that ou Thursday, the 21st, he should move that the House resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House, to take into conside ration the manufacture and sale of bread. Mr. BUM gave notice of his intention, this day week, to move an address to the Throne for returns connected with the value of certain church livings, amongst which was St. Man's, Lambeth. RETURNS. Sir ROBERT FEIiGUSON moved for an abstract of the net produce of the revenue of Ireland, paid into the Exchequer in the years ended the sth day of January, 1847, 1848, and 1849, distinguishing the years. Accounts of the net public income and expenditure of Ireland for the years ended the sth day of January 1847, 1848, and 1849, distingushing the years, and showing the whole of the ways and means provided within the same perio;!s, together with the application thereof. Ot the amount of duties of excise in each revenue dist. ict of Ireland, in each of the years ended the sth day of January 1847, 1848, and 1849. Ot the amount of duties of cusLoms of the revenue districts ot Ireland, in eac'. of *he years ended the sth day of Januar) 1847, 1848, and 1849. Statements show ing the annual average quantity of the following articles retained for home consumption in Ireland in each of the years ended the sth day of January, 1847, 1848, and 1849 respectively, viz., wine, spirit-, foreign and home made tobacco, tea, coffee, sugar, flax seed, cotton yarn, cotton wool, woollen and worsted yarn, silk, raw and thrown, iron, unwrought, timber, deals, and coals; and showing the annual average quantities of the following articles exported irom Ireland in each of the years ended the sth day of January, 1847, 1848, and 1849 respec tively, distinguishing the exports to Great Britain from those to foreign countries, viz., oxen, sheep, swine, horses, t aeon and hams, beef and park, butter, wheat and wheat flour, oats and oatmeal, Irish spirits, linen manufactures, linen yarn, and cotton manufactures (in continuation of Parliamentary Paper No. 585, of Session 1846) ; accounts of the amount of stamp duties collected in each stamp district of Ireland, for the years ended the sth day of January, 1847, 1848, and 1849, distinguishing each year; and, of the amount of postage coil, cu.(' in each county of Ire land, for the years ended the sth day of January, 1847, 1848, and 1849, distinguishing each )ear.—Agreed CRUELTY TO ANIMALS. The Marquis of WORCESTER, iu moving the second reading of this Bill, said he would occupy a very few minutes of the time of the House. The Bill was in troduced to ithpruve the Act passed in 1835, which had been found difficult to carry out in cases where cruelty had been undoubtedly proved. It hid, in fact, been found difficult to fix the saddle on the right horse. Many cases had occurred where servants had been em ployed in driving hackney coaches, omnibuses, and other public vehicles with defective animals; but the fine under the existing law was inflicted upon the servant and not the master, a ee ect which this Bill removed. Another ot , j , ct of the Btil was to increase the fine from 40a. to 51., and to facilitate the obtainment of evidence for the proof of ownership. In a case which occurred no later than Monday last, it was preyed before a magistrate in Kent that some horses had been starved, but the ownership could not be made out according to law, and the complaint was dismissed. Ha was not aware that there was any particular diffi culty; he trusted the House would read the Bill a second time, and any opposition to it might be taken in Committee.—(Cheers.) Mr. HUME thought that they were just as likely to mystify as to simplify law by accumulating legislation. Ho wished therefore to know whether the Acts already in existence were not sufficient for the purpose. Ile asked the qaestion, not that he was at all unfriendly to the Bill, but quite the contrary.—(Hear, hear.) Sir G. GREY said that this was not a new Bill, but the amendment upon the present law was simply to sub stitute imprisonment for a pecuniary penalty.—(Hear.) The Marquis of WORCE6TER—ExactIy so. Mr. HENRY wished to know whether there was any clause in the 8.11 to prevent steeple chasing. Mr. MACKINNON_ said that he thought he could answer the question. There was a clause to prevent horses from b -ieg over-driven. He thought that would meet the evil.—(Great laughter.) There were no ob jectionable details in the Bill, and the sooner it was read a second time the b. tter. Mr. BROWN inquired whether this Bill extended to England and Ireland. The Marquis of WORCESTER replied in the ne gative. Mr. BROWN then said that in Committee he should move a clause fur the purpose of extending its operation to Scotland. An HON. MEMBER rose and said that he should move a clauie that, it do nut extend to Scotland. Mr. HENLEY thought that while promoting a good measure they should Lot du so inconsiderately, and thus obviate the very advantage which they desired to obtain. Sir G. GREY said that there was no new principle in the Bill. It had been ♦ery carefully considered, and though there were details which would require amei.d nicht in Committee, the Bill was upan the whole well adapted to accomplish the purpose it was intended to effect. The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to be committed this day week. COUNTY RATES AND EXPENDITURE BILL On the second reading of this Bill being proposed, Mr. HUME said that he had intended to reserve his observations till the Bill was in a subsequent stage, but having received communications from several lem bers, he thought it would ba batter to meet any objections to it in liaise. By the Reform Bill the ct na ad d n nee expenditure , andof the rates in a pr eli minary bo roughsji e ion re port had been made by a Committee of the House appointed to consider the mode of amending the collec tion and expenditure of the rates in counties. That was signed by Mr. Shaw Lelevre and two other Members, and it was decidedly in favour H of an alt era t ion . having proffered always evidence strong ece interest in the subj ec t, h e h a d before that Committee. He need upon th e not, it was true, have expreasedany opinion matter, but having observed the measure for the rating in boroughs, and being desirous r o obtain inglatin for those who paid the rates the right to regul a t etn ex,ienditure of them, he bad in consequence in 1834 iti• troduced a Bill with the knowledge and sanction of the . Ministry of the day. The object of the Bill was to separate the financial from the judicial administration of every county. He pie pesed to place the former under the direction of a board composed of persons:elected by those who had the best right to select them, the rate payers. The judicial admioi“ration he proposed to leave to the magistrates, who bad been appointed by her Majesty. This Bill was read a first time, but it appeared seme opposition was offered to the Bill by the County Members, and while he (Mr. Hume) was moving the second reading the Noble Lord at the head of the Go. , verument walked out of the House. The Bi l l di ff ered I from the one introduced in 1837 in this respect; instead of having a new election of the members to form the board, it had been represented to him by several public meetings in Lancashire that. as the guardians of the different unions were a representative body, the board might consist of a member from each union, and certain county magistrates who were to have ex officio stets, and he had introduced a provision in the Bill to that effect. It the House assented to the principle of the measure he would move that it be referred to the Com- mittee up stairs, and if that Committee thought fit. to increase the number of magistrates to one-half of the guardians, he should have no objection to alter the Bill in chat resr.ct. The Committee ot 1848 concluded that the principle of the county rate was open to serious ob jection, on the ground that the charge was imposed by persons who were not elected by the rate-payers. No tax of such magnitude was laid upon any subject except by his representative, and if that were so surely the House would not consider it unreasonable to assent to the principle of the Bill, particularly at the present time, when there was a general desire that some economy should be effected. There could be no doubt, if an ex- ce ption to all rules connected with the administra•• tion of public money , in this country existed, that it called for some ;mruediato alteration. Taking LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, JUNE 13, 1849. the two "periods of 1792 and 1833, he found that the county expenses had increased in the following pro portiont—Ceustruction of bridges, from 42,0001. to 74,000 L; houses of correction, from 92,0001. to 177,000/. ; maintenance of prisoners, from 45,0001. to 127,0001; prosecutions, from 34,000/. to 155,0001.; constables, from 6591. to 2,6801.; salaries of officers, from 16,000/. to 51,0001.; vagrants, from 315,000/. to 708,00 e/. Now what was the total increase which had taken place? In 1835 the total amount of the county expenditure in England and Wales was 693,000/., and in 1847 the county rates were 1,100,0001., being an increase of 74 per cent. To show the importance of the question it was necessary he should show what had been done to relieve the county rates of the heavy charge that had been thrown upon them. In 1835 the expenses of prosecutions at assizes were 80,0001., the expenses of conveying prisoners 30,0001., and of the Poor-law Com mission 42.0001., making a total of 153 000/. paid in 18:35 from the Consolidated Fund. In 1836 the amount paid was 94,0001. Parliament had paid. in 1837, 154,000/ ; in 1833, 173,000/. ; in 1839, 179,000/. ; in 1840, 205,0001.; in 1841, 236.000/ ; in 1842, 105 .0001.; in 1843, 220,0001; in 1844, 235,000/; in 1845, 219.000!.; in 1846. 379.0001.; in 1847, 530 0001.; in 1848, 542 000/ ; rendering an aggregate of 3,532,000/ which Parliament had relieved the counties of against ihe county rates, as between the 74 per cent., according to the statement he had given. He asked whether this was not the time to establish some control over those matters? He cculd not understand why there should be any objection to this all, for it must be the interest of every lauded proprietor to have the rates and payments paid to the country as light as possible.—(Hear, hear.) The ques tion then arose, whether the existing mode was the best that could be adopted, and whether it was fit that, under such a great increase that system should be continte d, or whether the House should adopt some plain principle of taxation and representation, although not to the full extent it was desirable to do.—(Hear, hear.) That was the object of the Bill which he now brought forward. Ho thought there was a general de sire among the county Members to see a better system. Some counties had adopted finance committees to attend to the expenditure.—(Hear, bear.) Now that might be very well for county Members, but it did not give satis faction to the ratepayers generally. He therefore hoped the House would support him in the second reading of the Bill, which merely affirmed the principle, and lett the details to be dealt with subsequently. Mr. H. DISUM.MOND said the Hon. Member for Montrose (Mr. Hume) contended that a board should be appointed to revise and audit the the county taxation of the country. Now he decidedly objected to the introduction of such a pri ciple, as he believed I the counties of England perfectly capable of managing their own expenditure. He wished it to be understood that great misapprehension existed as to the powers of the magistrates with rest) , et to the expendi ture of the committees with which they were connected. The object of the Bill, the Honourable Mein- H ber said, was to reduce the expenditure to the utmost. Now, with respect to the county with which he was connected (Surrey), he must be permitted to soy that he had carefully looked over the accounts of the treasurer, and he was convinced that there was not an item charged in it that could be saved. The Poor law Commissioners, had, it was true, reduced the expenditure in many cases where it appeared to him they should not have done so —he meant the fees of medical men, and the expenses incidental to their attendance, the con sequence of which was the poor were not properly attend. d. He quite agreed with the Hon. Gentleman that the county expenditure had increased, and in the county in which he had so long resided gaols had been erected in opposition to the wishes of the magistrates by those whom the Honourable Gentleman supported in that House. Three gaols had been erected within his memory, and they were about to be put to the expense of erecting a new one. They could not help it, tor the magistrates had no option in the matter. Then, not lung ago, a!ter the gaols had been fitted up in accordance with a certain plan, an order come down from theinome-office directing that they should give the prisoners chocolate for breaktast—(Laughter)—and great expense was entailed upon teem in the erection of new kitchens. (Hear, hear.) This was not the fault of the magistrates; they had nothing to do teith it. He held two petitions in his hand, which had been presented from intelligent persons, setting forth that the magistrates in their re spective localities had put them to great expense by the erection of new goals. Now, it happened that the ma gistrates had nothing to do with the matter. He thought the present system wrong altogether. Sir J. PAKINGTON said he gathered from the speeches of the two Hon. Gentlemen who bad spoken last, that in their opinion those who contributed to the county rates should have the lull control of the expenditure. Now he took no excep tion to that principle, and was willing to adopt it ; but he was prepared to show that though the Bill might be in accordance with the theories of the lion. Gentleman's supporters, that it would be altoge ther impracticable and most objectionable, and he trusted that neither her Majesty's Government, nor any consi siderable portion of the Members of that House, would support it. Indeed, there never was a time when the county expenditure was watched with mute care and rigid economy than at the present moment. Mr. BUME—By whom? Sir J. PAKINGTON—By the magistrates appointed to superintend it. No mercantile establishment was conducted with greater care than the expen diture of the county with which ho was con nected.—(Hear.) Indeed, he had no objection to the appointment of a Committee to investigate the whole matter, and he begged to intimate that he intended to move th at puilit.eeet of such a Committee. He believed the Bill to be an affront to the gentry of the count( s, against whom no malpractices had been a:leged; indeed, no charge whatever had been preferred against them. The lion. Gentleman rested his case on, and indeed the Bill its• if orignated solely out of the expen diture of, Lancashire. lie held the balance-sheet trom 1 1834 to le4B in his hands. and he was prepared on the serength ut it to contend that this Bill ought riot to pass. He thought he could prove to the House that a more unfair case was never put forward in support of any measure than this Lancashire statement. The Hun. Memoer for Montrose had stated that the expenditure of the county of Lancaster in 1824 was 80,000/., and that in the year 1848 that expenditure had swollen up to 179,000/, so that in the course of 24 years the expenditure had increased by 100,0001. Now he thought he could show the House that this was a most unfair view of the case, though he admitted the figures to be correct. But how was this accomplished? He submitted to the Hon. Gentleman that in order to make a fair comparison he must take the same items in 1848 that were taken in 1824. Well, then, he found that in the year 1848 the expenditure was increased in this way. The county had to make additions to two gaols, and it had to build or make addi tions to three lunatic as; lums, which had cost 92.000/. Nuw if they deducted that sum from the 179,0001., it would leave 87,000/. for 1848, for those items which cost 80,0001. in 1824, showing an increase of only 7,0001. during a period when the population had increased from 1,052,000 to 1,667,000. But that was not all; in 1848 the solitary eystem had been in operation which was not the case in 1824, and if they deducted the cost of that system from it, it would leave 60,0001. as tlhBe2 expenditure fu e r xp l e B n 4 a B itur f e or of th B e o,o i o 4 o 7 .. L ( w t h o i u c d h in cries of " Hear.") He hoped, therefore, that he had convinced the House that su far as this Lancashire case was concerned it really formed no justification for this most objectionable Bill, or any ground fur bringing a charge against the magistrates.—(Hear, hear.) But ad mitting that there were some defects in Lancashire, that was no reason why the whole of England should be dosed by a Bill which he would pre sently ~how would be unjust and impracticable. As an example of the manner in which this Bill was likely to act, he might state that he had ascertained that in the county of Lancashire alone there were no less than 450 magistrates, gentlemen all of them of property, and some of them in the possession of large estates, and a portion men of enormous property, all of whom con tributed very largely to the amount of the county rates. —(hear, hear.) It seemed to him that it was the most enormous absurdity in the world to say that these gentlemen were not to have the regulation of the expenditure of those rates.—(Cheers and counter cheers.) For his own part, he must reiterate his opinion, that it was the landlord who paid the rates. —(Cries of " No, no.") He thought that his Honour able Friend was not in the House at the time this sub ject was discussed. All these local burdens on land were borne by the landlord, and not by the holder, of the farm.—(Hear, hear.) What, did not the Gentlemen who heard him, remember that when a tenant took a farm he took it with a full knowledge of all the local burdens to which it was liable, and that all these cir cumstances were considered in arrangement of the rent? —(Cheers and counter cheers.) It was then the land lord who, in fact, paid the rates. He would, indeed, allow that there were some circumstances in which the burden fell upon the tenant; and that was the case whenever from unforeseen circumstances it was necessary to levy an unusual rate. But did any one believe that these sorttereferu a e o tt f o w t h h hi e n no g w s htt w e c e to r ou e onk n t t:l3 that invariablyhsaftfarm?—(Cheers) w? considered by every s — or ( e?s h te e r e s r h e ile, H fo e r an apt illustration of the evil which this Bill would work by transferring the government of the expenditure from the magistracy to the board of guardians of the county, for it would be transferring the direction of the rates from those who were, in fact, the greatest rate payers, to those who contributed comparatively little to the aggregate of the county receipts, He did hope that Hon. Members would look at this view of the case. But they must allow him to show how the Bill would work in the county with which he himself was connected. That county was Worcestershire. In Wor wstertne twothe hund red m m p a r g i s i i s n t g r a t t e h s e , who t a ry l I e er e had t e a r a l i ar r g e e t i h n c t and clergy. Now they all knew how . heavily the clergy were taxed. In the cou nt y he found there were twelve poor-law unior.e, comprising eighteen guardians and nine magistrat es, so that the whole of in the country have had their the greatest rate-payers for the k t t taken away sa e o these two hundred gentlemen, who were themselves power and their interest of awhich, collectively, placing them in the hands body portionchairman of the county, and he contributed but a himself for many years attention was always could say that the most scrupulous e small to the rates. He was d of large expenditure he , as for instance the building of a in their hands. In every case in indeed of large expenditure, as t'or instance the building of a lun El sie asylum (and o paid to the laying out of the money y which was deposited was glad a Bill to throw the expenditure for such purposes ro county rates) not a tarthing was expend ed, ear, sition considered without a most siftuag --(H hear.) The Honourable Member for Montrose had or any p po upon the stated that it was desirable to transfer thos e p owers from a fluctuating to a more stable body, but w hat body, he should like to know, could be more fluctuating than that of men who were re-elected to their sever?l offices every year. Whereas, on the_contraryl a 1 though ho was aware that the magistracy, like all other human beings, were liable to die, yet, for the many years with which he had been con nected with them, he had seen but few changes of faces. —(flear, hear.) He did trust that before the Right Honourable Baronet gave his sanction to this Bill he would peuse and consider whether he would pass such an insult on the gentry of England. He would caution the House and the Government not un necessarily to interfere with that which had long worked so well, and which he maintained would continue to work well if the gen;ry of England would only do ih. it duty.— (Laughter.) He adopted that maxim of which they had heard so much lately—that property had its duties as well as its rights, and one of the first duties of landed proprietors was to attend to the administration of their local affairs.—(Hear, hear.) If they did not shrink from the duties involved upon them by the constitution, the interests of the poor would never suffe-r, and and as long es their functions were properly discharged, he held there could be no reason ter setting them aside, and superseding them by another body. flow could a board like that proposed by the Honeurable Mem ber carry on the affairs of the country? how rould it deal with the reports of the vi-icing justices of the county gaol.?—(Hear, hear.) If the Bill were pas,ed, the menagement of county gaols must neces sarily be turned over to the Government, for it would be impossible for the magistrates to superintend them effectually if a small body had p twcr to say, you must not effect that improvement, adopt this salary. nor carry out those regulations which the Home-office considered necessary for the management of the geol. He had no objt ction to a fair inqu►ry and to some reform, if it would be ready beneficial ; but he for one could not c insent to a Bilt like that which he held would de'eat the very obj , et which the Hoe. Member (Mr. Hume) had in view. He held that the present body was, in effect, a true represen• tation of the rate-payers to this extent—that a 3 they themselves were the largest rate-payers, it was to their interest to effect every possible economy, and hence they would protect the interest of the small rate payers. It was upon those grounds that he moved by way of amend ment, " That a Select Committee be upp_inted to in• quire into the levying and appropriation of the county rates in England and Wales." Mr. R. PALMER seconded the amendment, consi dering that the affairs of the county would not be better managed by the board which Mr. Hume propcsA to adopt. He did not think, if the matter were inquired into, that it would appear that the expenditure of the county stuck, as a prinmple, was careless or extravagant. The up pointment of the officers of peels, at.d of all the officers in the county, was to be transferred to the proposed board, which he thought quite uncalled for and exceed ingly objectionable. The Hon. Member for Montrose said he had no objection to ref. rring the Bill to a elect Committee. lie (Mr. R. Palaver) had no ob jection to that course, but at the same time it was to be remembered chat they could not take evidence on the subject before the Select Committee to which the Bill might be referred, and it was desirable to hear evidence on the whole subject of the expenditure of the county rate. Mr. HEYWOOD did not quite agree with the Bill as it stood at the present moment,. but thought that modifi cations might be made in it so as to meet the exigencies of the case. He thought it would not be fair to the people of this country to pass a general measure, merely because a particular district might call fcr a change of system. In Scotland the gaols were self-supporting; the pri soners were made to work for their maintenance. He saw no reason why this should not be done here. — (Hear.) He thought that financial boards of rate payers would: work much good. Indeed the principle was not a new one. Sir G. GREY was favourable to the principle of the Bill, namely, the representation of the ratepayers — the formation of financial boards in which the various classes of ratepayers should be fairly represented.— (Hear, hear.) Looking at the report of the Commis sioners of England and Wales on this subject, he found the principle fully embodied, and he was sure it was only necessary to read the names of the gentlemen appended to the report to be of opinion that, in the recommendations they made, they did nut intend to cast aoy affront upon the magistrates or gentlemen of the counties.—(etear, hear.) He did not support the principle of the B►d, because he believed that the magistrates had been wanting in their duty in the pursuance of that rigid economy in the county expenditure which was so ❑ecessary. Indeed, on the contrary, he believed the magistrates of England, being themselves large contributors _to the county rate, had a direct in wrest in watching the county expenditure, and he believed they bad done so. In those cases in which they had been charged with excessive expenditure he found that it had arisen tin consequence of following out the laws passed by the Legislature.—(Hear, hear.) The lion. Gentleman op posite was in error if he supposed that they were merely to follow out the arbitrary will and pleasure of the Secre tary of State. The Act of George IV. made it obligatory upon magistrates to provide for the efficient accommodation of prisoners in gaols, such as their diet, classification, sleeping places, and conduct, and ir, at the same time, imposed certain duties on the Secretary of State, which were also correctly and definitely set forth. If the magistrates refused to perform the duties that devolved, a mandamus might be moved for in the Queen's Bench, calling upon them to show cause. It was his duty to see that they pr, perly discharged the duties assigned to them. But there were cases to which hi. superiuteniing influence did not extend. Fur instance, lunatic asylums were placed out or his control; after he had approved of the site, the further expenditure in connexion with them was placed out of his power. He was bound to say that since he had had the honour to till the office of Under tary of State fur the Home Department whatever he had suggested they h.d evinci d a mast ready dis position to accede to—not servilely, but a willingness to adopt them, or to give subs:.autiat reasons for not doing so.—(Hear, hear.) Then the Honourable Baronet opposite must recollect that rate-Eaters did not merely consist of one class, but of several, and therefore he (Sir G. Grey) objected to the entire management of the expenditure being e ntrusted to the hands of that one class.—(Cries of "Hear, hear.") But when he came to the details of the Bill he was almost ready to coincide with the Honourable Gentleman ; but the Hun. Member for Montrose bad intimated that he did not lay much stress upon the details, and was ready to amend them in Committee.—(bear, hear.) As it stood, he (Sir George Grey) was prepared to say that it would be round altogether impracticable.—( Hear.) With regal d to the proportion of the elective body to the magistrates, be considered that portion of the Bill altogether wrong, and that the principle of preponderance he had laid down ou A lit to be altogether opposite to that for which he contended.—(Hear, hear.) He wished to guard him self by saying that he approved of the principle or representation embodied is the Bill.—(Bear, hear.) Sometimes magistrates Were very regular in their at tendance; but it oiten occurred that there were great fluctuations in the attendance, and it might happen that those who only occasionally attended might overpowet those who were more regular, and took a mere active part. The report of the Commissioners spike of lour quarter ses sions of one county being heid in tour different parts of the Orme county ; now it wasjust pus:Pile in such a case thea the attendance of the magistrates connected with these localities would take place, and that a difference of opinion might prevail in different districts with respect to metiers affecting the whole of the county. The Hon. Baronet who had moved the amendment, it he understood him rightly, did not object to the prin ciple of the Bill, nor did he; but with regard to the details, he felt that some further inquiry was necessary. Now if they read the Bill .4 second time, and referred it to a Select Committee, it would be absolutely indispensable that the power of the Committee should be enlarged. Practically, therefore, there was no difference between the original motion and the amendment ; and if the on s e Ho t p t . () Ge ntlemanamennaen, thethetMem forhobwerle ut sMniecntrto, steogthr would ee n the d with his Bill, might be referred to the Committee, which e would be the most straightforward way of dealing with the question.—(Hear.) With regard to what had been said about the expenditure, the magistrates evinced a laudable desire to economise the only tax upon building, which must fall permanently upon the county rate, but as to the expenditure fur assize and sessions prosecu tions, it really was high time that some check was put up. on it. If therefore this question went before a Com mittee, he should propose to lay certain information on the table which would enable them to devise some plan for checking that growing evil.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. HENLEY thought the Right Hon. Bart. would have done better had he considered the subject mere before he ventured to make such a charge against the magistrates, as it was well known that they had no control over the assize prosecution expenditure; that duty rested with the judge of assize, and all the magistrates had to do was to sea that the money was paid. He hoped the Honourable Gentleman would con sent to the appointment of the Committee, as he was con vinced the Biil itself would never work in its present form. He would ask whether the public buildings had been erected at a less proportionate expense than those which had been raised from county rates.—(Hear, hear.) That was not a matter of proof and opinion, but one of proof and estimate.—(Hear.) All the public buildings were erected under the supervision of responsible and official persons, all under open contract.—(Hear, hear.) They had been compelled to build lunatic asylums and to enlarge their gaols these all were items of large expense. It was well known that none of the expenses could be incurred without the strictist supervision, and if the Hon. Gen tleman who had taken an interest in the subject bad been in his place, he would have asked him whether he bad nut had great difficulty in his endeavour to raise the dietary in the prisons.—(Hear, hear.) He would also ask the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of the Home Department whether there had been any complaint whatever made of excess in the expenditure upon this item. He would also further ask him whether the expenses incurred in Millbsnk ar.d Fulton ville, or any other of tie public prisons, were less than those paid in the county gaols. When the gaol Act was pasted some years ago, iss ince was very far from being anticipated, and much ex pense had been the result, but for which the county magistrates were in no way responsible. On the whole he was desirous of some inquiry, and he thought that it ought to be made; but the Bill in its present state was quite impracticable. Mr. V. SMITH said that he was desirous to say a few words, because he thought that his Honour. able Friend the Member for Montrose had been hardly dealt with in the early part of this debate. The Hon. Member who had just sat down had dealt more fairly than the Hon. Baronet who moved the amendment ; he had expressed his opposition to the Bill because he believe dit to be impracticable. Now the very reason why he( Mr. V. Smith) would support it was, because he conceived it to be far more practicable than the amendment. The Hon. Baronet who bad chiefly opposed ha Bill had stated that this Bill, if passed, would be an insult on the gentry of Eng land. No one would be further from entertaining the desire to insult the gentlemen of Englend than himself ; but he could not view it at all/ in this light, and did conceive that no such intention was entertained. —(Hear, hear.) The opposition to titii Bill was founded on the old urgumerits against the Reform Bill. Why, they might ja•t as well say that the Ilouses of Lords and Commons should not cem nine to legislate for the coun try, simply b.cau , e the Members of the former House hell particularly large ratites in the country.—(tlear, hear.) He thought that the very reason why the boards of -guardians should be admitted to a share in the control of the expenditure of the county r.tte was that they were small rate-payers. If they were so they were most conversant with small things, and most likely to be able to jtelge of them, and their introduction to the county board would therefore be a great benefit. The most practical proceeding would be to refer the whole matter to a Select Committee, in order that the principle and details of the Bill r&ght be fully considered.—(Hear.) Mr. WILSON PATTEN said as the county expen diture of Lancashire bad increased from 80,000/. to 170,000/., it was no woniter that the rate-payers should be desirous of having some voice in the distribution of it.—(Hear, hear.) He certainly never saw a greater insult upon any body of gentlemen than that conveyed in the Bill of the Hen. Gentleman that the magistrates were incapable of representing the rate•payr rs of the county.—(hear.) As the Bill now stool it would not carry out the principle proposed. The best way would be to throw the whole county-rate open the landlord, and take it off the tenant, which might be very e astly accomplished.—(Hear, hear.) It ti)ey did not do that, they would get into error. Per instance, if an order came from the Home Secretery that an additional expense might be incurred tor any particular purpose, who was .o decide that a rate should be made to carry that pur pose into a (feet? As the Bill stood now, the greatest amount would fall upon the occupiers, and would they consent to an expenditure for objects in which they had no permanent interest? Tenants who hal leases for ten and fourteen years had no interest in the expenditure beyond the periods of their respective holdings. He thought, therefore, if the Bill became law in its pre sent form, that all Dr cessary improvements in the different counties would be stopped •, and on that and several other grounds he strongly recomm• nded the Hon. Member for Montrose to allow this Bill not merely to go to a Committee, but to allow the subject of county rates and co inty expenditure to be r.:considerad. Mr. ROEBUCK said, when he was called upon to support the proposition of the Hon. Gentleman opposite he was perfectly at a loss to know whether or net the principle of representation in county management was admitted or not.—(llettr, hear.) If he could get some assurance, in some form or other, that the principle of representation in county management was to be rec. g ide:A there would be no man more ready to approve the principle of this Bill, from the beginning to the end, than he was. Teat was all that he asked. A go vernment ought to have a self dependent and independent spirit, and it should be enabled fairly and openly to avow a policy, to adopt it, and stick by it. It should not occupy the high places of the country, and while occu pying those high places avoid all the great. questions of the day, but it was their duty to take their stand, when they had a principle, upon that principle.—(Hear.) The Hun. Gentleman the Secretary of State having admitted the great principle of representation he would allow him (Mr. Roebuck) to adopt him as his general en this occesion, and to fight that great battle under his banner. He (Mr. Roebuck) did hope the House would in reality entirely negative the sort of side- wind way in which the lion. Gentleman opposite bad sought to throw out this Bill. It was the great principle of representation which be (Mr. Roebuck) was there then to support.—(Hear.) Sir G. GRhY said he had stated it the Lion. Gentle man opposite persevered in the motion of which he had given notice, and the question should then have been would the House admit the principle of representation into financial boards in assessing county rates, or would they altogether reject that principle—if that was the point on which they were to take issue, he (Sir George Grey) said he should have no hesitation iu voting fur the principle or the Bill, greatly as he objected to some of its details —(Hear, hear.) Sir J. rAlitiete I'ON explained that in his address he gave no opinion with respect to the principle of re• presentation—no one was more favourable to representa tion than he was; but he conceived the whole matter ought to be investigated by a Committee. Mr. PACKE bad no hesitation in saying that this Bill, though he did not accuse the Hon. Gentleman of bringing it forward for that purpose, was au affront to the magistracy of England. Many important matters would be placed by this Bill beyond the control of the county board. For instance, the expenses allowed by a judge would not come under its jurisdiction. He fully admitted that there should be representation in county matters; but he objected to it, because it was not practicable. As he had said, they would hake nu power over the ass.ze expenses at sessions. He approved of inquiry by a LEWlStitail said the h w e h g . a l e there matter o C f o , ts ihi m .e. Co mm it tee. ume d t h e a h t e i e t d was be trheet referred to a Select Committ ee . wish d Mr. HUME said the Hon. Gentleman was wrens , . He first wanted the Hou se t o a ffi rm t h e pr i nciple, and then to refer the Bill to a Committee. Mr. C. LEWIS said he so understood the Hon. Gen tleinan. It was nut necessary that a magistrate should be a contributor -to the county rates; therefore the statement or the Honourable Gentleman, that the rates might be imposed by persons who did not con tribute to them, ells perfectly correct. Then, again, it was not until 1834 tnat refrc.eotation was ac knowledged as being coincident with taxation. tie strongly advised the House to refer the whole ques tion to a Committee, for the time had now arrived alien a great change must be made in the entire system of county taxutiiou. Mr. MILES came down to oppose the principle of the Bili, because it would cast a slur upon the magistracy of the country—(Oh, eh.)—but since his Hon. Friend had altered his aine:ndauent, he had no object:ou to refer the Bill and the general subject of representation to the consideration of a Commute e.—( Hear, hear.) During the last few years the greatest economy had been prac tised in the county expenditure, while at the present mo ment no county was without its finance committee, who caret ully sifted end cxamieed the accounts.—(Hear, hear.) He did not think, therefore, that it was fair to attack the magistracy in the manner some Honourable Gentlemen had done, but as they were now agreed that the whole subject should be thoroughly investigated, he hoped there would be no obj,ction ou the part of the majority of the House to adopting the amendment.—(Hear, bear.) He would rtadily have voted for the principle of this BID; but the principle was so much mixed up with the details, that he could not possibly support the second reading. Ali. E. DENISON came down to the House with a purpose with ly duff rent from that which had been ex pressed by the lion. Gentleman who had just sat down. Ha regretted many of the observations wnich had been made respecting the gentry of England, for he thought that they only prejuoiced the question. He would much rather that the House should go into this inquiry without been crippled by a vote of the House; uut,constdering all the circumstances, he thought that it would be better to affirm the propwitiun before the liuuse.—(Cries of "Divide, divide.") Mr. SPOONER rose, amid loud and continued cries a "Divide, nivitie," and said that this Bill was not one tor admission, but of exclusicn. He was altogether friendly to the principle ot representation in county affuirs.—(Renewed cries of "Divide, divide.") But the details of this Bill were in many respects so objectionable that he behaved that iu voting for the amendment he was furthering instead of impeding the object.of the Hon. Member - for Montrose. By vesting the whole of the control of the prisons of the county in this financial board they would take from the sheriff of the county the right of appointing persons to offices in the prisons, while he was in fact the very per son re,pousibie for the ctnitody of the prisouers.—(lie newed eras of " Divide, divide.") After a few words from Lord ... 1 41100JILE and Mr. SLANEY, spoken amidst great uproar, Mc. HUME said, that he hoped that as several Mem bers were not present when he stated the objects of the Bill, he should be allowed to repeat them.—(Cries of " Oh, ob.") He would not be long. If any slur was cast at all it was cast by the House on the Commissioners.— (Hear, hear.) Aii be desired to du was to carry out the recommendation of the Cornceizsioners. That was to establish the principle of representation, and he asked no more. It t.,ey wished to refuse that principle, let them adoptshelft it b,y them let insidious te fur theresolution 13 ; i o l i r . if they He wibhe l to that he had been deceived by the Government. In conceivedfact, to use a common phrase, he had been " so'-d."— (Laughter.) When he was applied to to bring in the Bill he objected, and said it was not the business of an individual . Member, that it was the business of the Government, and that they ought to go to Sir j h t he in that came George Grey, and ask him to introduce the Bill. They did so, but Sir George Grey ce dined, although he agreed to the principle. He then told them to go to Lord John back and said tbat he also approved of the principl e , but declined to bring in the Bill. What then was h e t o m do ih —i t l(uH m ues a ae. ek r—, h Cin Ors.r)edlterH, understood.—(Laughte r .) spderstuoti.— (Laughte r .) W e l l tne Noble Lord, the Fir s t Mi n i ster, said the Govern ments Winds were fo full, th a t h e cou l d not undertake the manags went of th e Bill, b ut h e entire l y agreed with ' it; and he (Mr. H ume ) un d erstoo d f rom what then passed tnat it he bi ought i n t h e Bill h e s h ou ld rece i ve the sup • port of the G o v ernment —(H eat )— an d i n that way i t was that he he had en entirely sold.—(Loud l a ught er .) He called upon every M em b er w h o agrees w i t h t h e prin ciple that the c ount y ra t es oug h t to b e managed by individuals appoint e d by th e rate-p.yers, tojvote with him for the second reading,—(Bear, hear.) Strangers were th.-n ordered to w i t hd raw, an d t h e House divided, when there appeared— For the amendment 96 in Against it ............154 andoi k e e u Russell; t o u b erol; butoet supposed h Russell ey l&jority against the amendment... 58 Mr. M. GIBBON proposed an amendment, to the effect that ihe Select Committee should consider the pro priety of introducing the principle rf repreientation of the rate-payers. Mr. B:I3ENISON did not object to the amendment of the lion. Gentleman, but he thought there would be very great difficulty in carrying it into effect. Mr. DISRAELI said the question before the House was whether tt e principle of representation should be seterred to a &life' C.ratnittte. That question court not be satisfactorily settled unless it was settled by the whole House. The House was as competent now to enter into that discussion as it could be after any inves Ligation, before a Selt ct Cumtuittee.—(Cheers.) There could not be a greater slur ou the House of Commons than to suppose tbst they were nut competent to enter into the consideration of a great constitutional question. Mr. ROEBUCK said this was a Bill which affected a larger portion of the people of this country than any Bill that_had been brought into. the House this session, and yet toe Government, approving of its principle, had thrown the onus of introducing it on a private M , lnber. —(Neer.) It was the bounden duty of the Government, so approving of that great pi inciple, to have given it the anc on and support of the Government. Sir G. GREY rose to explain. He bad di &load on behalf of the Government to take the respilisibility of the Bill upon himself. He ssw not the .lightest objection to the amendment, except that it was too limited in its character as to the parties who were to control the ex penditure of the funds. . _ _ Mr. BRIGHT said all who had spoken agreed that representation was good. fur indeed it was mon strous that 1,500,0001 should be expended without suf ficient control. Let tht m come to the conclusion as to the nalure of that representation, whether it should be more or lets than proposed. Sir J. PAKLNGTON said, after weighing the words of the amendment, he confessed he was not so ready to adopt them as some Hon. Gentlemen opposite and near him. He reterred again to his amendment, and con tended that it proposed as large an inquiry- as that pro posed in the amendment of the Hot,. Gentleman; the carrying of which would be equitalent to the second reading of the 13111, and which, doubtless, was the Hon. Gentlt man's oHect. Mr. W. PATI EN said, as 1)6 mind was made up on the prineipte ot representation, he sht.uld not object to the iuserton 01 the words, The ATTORNEY-GENERAL supported the amend ;nen t. Mr. R. PALMER also supported it. Atter a few observations from Mr. W. MILES and ►Sir W ILLIAN JOLLIFFE, Mr. ULADS'IOINE said the amendment of Mr. Gib ton involved a very important principle, for it was hip possible for any man who had not [Lade up Ira mind in jaiN,ur of control by election to vote for it. He sus anxious, therefore, that the House should know that in assenting to it it would pledge itself to the principle of representation. _ _ * Vie gallery was then &eared for a division. The reporters were excluded for a cosiderable time, but on our return to the gallery we learned that there had been no division, but that Lhe_debate bad been con tinued, and we found Mr. DISRAELI speaking and saying that the mea sure had not bet n conducted in a manner that was fair and straightforward.—( Hear, hear.) The ATTORNEY-GENERAL interposed to say that the names or the several parties had been given. Mr. DISRAELI said that at least that was the im pr•.esion of every Gentleman sitting near him.—(clear.) The ATTORNEY-GENERAL—But it was not so. Mr. DISRAELI would give the Hon. and Learned Gentleman the bent fit of either circumstance. if he had stated that the amendment of the lion. Member for Manchester would give to the rate-payers an effec tive control of the county expenditure, how could he say that it did not include the representative prin. tiple?—(Hear. hear.) For his own part he was de cidtdly opposed to any inquiry in a Select Committee. It there was to be an inquiry at all it ought to be on the floor of that House; and he should give his earnest opposition, by all the means which the constitution afforded, to any other.—(Creeers.) The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that he would also give the Hon. Gentleman the choice of a dilemma, and this time he would speak a little louder than before. —(Luud cheers.) The Honourable Gentleman ap peared to have lost little by his absence in the termer part of the debate, for be had equali,.ed his position by his inattention afterwards. The lion. and Learned Gentleman then went into an explanation of what he did say, in which he was loudly cheered. Alter a few wards Irom Mr. HUME, deprecating a division, to which the lion. Member who moved the ad journment did not respond, strangers were- ordered to withdraw, and the House divided, when there appeared— For the adjournment B3 Against it l3l Majority Lord BROOKE then moved that the House do now adjourn, considering that the subject was too important to tie proc►eded with at that late hour. Mr. CHM6TOPHER seconded the motion. Mr. tiUME said there could be no doubt that the object of county Members was to delay and postpone the measure.—(Loud cries of " Hear.") It would more become the couracter of the country gentlemen to honestly come forward, and either support or oppose the measure, than to adopt a course for the purpose of preventing the House coming to a decision. After a few words trom Sir J . PAKINGTON, Mr. B. DENISON rose to make a few observations, but had scarcely uttered two sentences before it was noticed that the hour of six had arrived. The House then adjourned, the Hon. Membera leaviug the House amidst much Liughter. STATE OF TRADE. (From the Manchester Guardian of this day.) MANCHESTER, TUESDAY.—Iii thlS dlty's mai k et, the producers of yarns and goods have firmly adhered to the somewhat enhanckd quotations of last week: for 'once articles, hide. d, their oemands have again been slightly raised, But, the heavy accumulations of recent purcnases, on German account, cons, quent on the blockade of tile northern ports, anti the utter uncertainty that exists as to the removal of that great obstacle to busi ness, together with the not very encouraging tone of the commercial letters received from Germany, have na turally enough led those who are engaged in that trade to meet the present upward movement with a degree of caution which has restricted their operations within very narrow limits. As might be expected, the hebi cation manifested by so important a class of mer chants, has not been without its influence upon the conduct of buyers connected with markets for which orders are ready to be given out; while the accounts ju.t received from the great mart of the Levant are fully as ditcouraging as the previous ones. The result is, that the aggregate of the day's transac- Limo has not been large, and that a very percep.ible want of animation has been combined with a not less obvious firmness. The principal purchasing in goods is still mainly confined to light and medium qualities for the eastern, the American, and some other markets, though the increased call fur heavy domestics, which was experienced last week, continues in some degree to be felt. ItLcanALE, MONDAY.—There has been an improve ment in the demand for goods to-day, and merchants have purchased more freely, but prices are much the sam© as they have been for some weeks past. The wool flarket col tinues very dull, and the manufacturers show no disposition to buy, except for immediate use. Prices are much the same as they were the preceding Monday. HUDDERSFIELD, TUESDAY.—Business is very quiet, both in the Cloth Hall and warehouses, and few buyers are in the town. The trade in wool continues steady, and the better sorts of colonial wools continue to improve i❑ price. HALIFAX, SATURDAY.—The aspect of trade in our Piece Hull tuts nut be eu improved to-day; nor is there, we believe, more doing in the warehouses; the inquiry for worsted goods being still rather languid. There is, howev,r, an increased demand for wefts tor the coati nent; and there is no doubt that, were the Danish biuckadie at au end, there would be a good business in all sorts of yarn. Prices are, consequently, no longer in a drooping position ; alth.iugh wool is ea•ier to buy, aun, in the face of the clip, the staplers are flee sellers. LEEDS, TUESUAY.—We have no improvement in our market to report to-day. Buyers are extremely cautious in their purchases. Very little busioess has been dune. UNIVERSITY IN TEL LIGENCE. CAMBRIDGE. JUNE 11. At a Congregation holden this day the following de grees were conteired:— B.D. H. Bailey, St. John's College. G. Bainbridge, St. John's College. F. S. Bolton, St. John's College. G. F. Reyner, St. Juhn's College. J. R. Crowfoot, Csius College. H. G. Williams, Emulanwl College. M.B. Walter Augustus Lewis, Caius College. B.A. J. H. Smart, Trinity College. W. Siockdale, St John's College. BARNABY LECTURERS. The following gentlemen were appointed:— Mr. Hutt, Caius, Mathematics. Mr. Andrews, Queen's, Philosophy. Mr. Woollaslon, St. Peter's, Rhetoric. Mr. W. Brown, St. John's, Logic. The Rev. Muirhead Mitchell, M.A., University Col lege, Oxford, was admitted ad eundem. At the same Congregation the following grace passed the Senate:—To appoint the Vice-Chancellor, the Master of Jesus College, the Master of Sidney College, the Muster of Ch r i st ' s C o ll ege, Mr. Bateson, the Punhe Orator, Mr. Martin of Trinity College, and Mr. Hop kins of Catharine Hall, a Syndicate to consider the report of the inspector under the Public Health Act, and to make such statements and to propose such amend ments respecting it to the General Board of Health as they may deem desirable. OXFORD, JUNE I2.—A Convocation was holden this day for the purpose of electing a Professor of Anglo- Saxon in the room of the Rev. William Edward Buck ley, M.A., Fellow of Brasenose, whose period of office had expired. The candolates were, John Earle, M.A., Fellow of Oiiel, and the Rev. Henry Wilkins Norman, M.A , Fellow of New College, the former of whom was elected, the numbers being— For Mr. Earle ... 142 •Mr. Norman ... 78 Mrs. Denyer's Theological Prise" On Original, or Birth, Sin," has been awarded to the Rev. Edward Walford, M.A., late Scholar of Baliol. Mr. Walford g,ined the prize for Latin verse in 1843, and one of Mrs. Denyer's prizes last year. The Vice. Chancellor has announced that, in conse quence of the Encsenia, or Commemoration of Founders and Benefactors, being fixed for Thursday, the 21st inst., the congregation for granting graces and conferring de grees will be holden on Friday, the 22d, instead of the day preceding. Mr. Arthur P. Bagley, late United States' Minister at the Court of his Imperial Majesty the Emperor of Russia, has arrived in Lor don by the steam-ship Nep tune, from St Petersburgh, on his way to Liverpool, en route to the United States of America. A SCENE IN MILITARY LIFE.--When the draft of the 74(1 was embarking in the Fifeshire, at Cove, for Quebec, the wite of Sergeant Stewart attempted suicide, by throwing her,elf into the river, but was res cued by a man, who jumped over, and kept her above water until a boat reached him. Her net being permitted to accompany her husband was the cause of the attempt. LIMERICK, JUNE N.—Sld. 10th, Fanny, Bar Woes. PRINTERS' ALMSHOUSES. The f , undstion stone of this insticutiou was laid an Monday, by'Lord Mahon, ai Wood-green, Tottenham. L'ird Mahon arrived shortly uft@r two o'clock, accom panied by Mr. Itteh,rd Taylor (the treasurer) and the committee of the iusti'ution. On the ground was it spactous marquee, in which a /ergo number of persons found ample accommodation. An appropriate hymn (written by a member of the committee) having been sung by the Suedey echool child, en in ettecciance, and by the company, Mr. Darkin (the secretary) read a very able address of the committee, in which the claims of those who rash by misfortune or old age, become fit objects for the almshouses, were eloquently set forth. Atter the delivery of the address, Lord Mahon pr ceeoed to lay the first stone, with the usual formalities. On the stone was th e following inseription:—.. PlllllOO Almshouses. This first stone iv:s laid by Pnilip lienvY L rd Viscount Mahon, M.P. on Monday, June 1 1 , 1819." The riatnes of the treasurer, Trustees, the :acre tar, and the architect were inscribed upon the stone. ' - the ceremony having been gone through, the Rev Mr. Cox, ri ctor of Bishopsgate, offered up a prayer, in. vokiug the of tee Almighty on the good work. Lord MAHON. In concluding the proceedings, said he had felt it both en honour and a pleasure to cores among them that day for the purpose of laying t he foundation stone of an institution, the beneficial affects of which, he had no doubt, would be felt when be, an d +hose who were assembled around him, had left this fleeting scene.— (liver, heat'.) It was one of the proudest .beasts of teen, that though himself but a mere speck in the vast ocean of, time, he should b e ena bl e d , b y joining 111 fforts such as these, to establish instit u ti ons H ot merely to be the things of a day, but whose benefits were 10 flow on from age to age, gathering strength as they 've nt along. thus perpetuating his generosity, end forming blessings and benefits to generations atter hi ll " — (Cheers.) If, then, such was the feeling which actuated them in promoting, any• object in which their own personal feelings might. be mixed u or intended f or p, the carrying out of their v i ews and opinions of publl affairs, how much stronger ought those feelings en their desire to carry out that object be whe n it was for the purpose of promoting the llls: piness and comfort of their fellow men.—(Che ers) They had been reminded by the Rev. Gentleman, who had offered up so appropriate prayers for the successs' their undertaking, that without the blessing of an eve r watchful Providence all their efforts were in vale; but, in a cause like the pre sen t, th ey were do i ng that w hich Divine authority itself commanded in the clearest terms' and in doing which they were following at an humb le distance Divine example..—(Hear, hear.) Among th e many indications of feeling which they saw at the pre' sent time, and the various changes which they se w taking place, many of which were viewed in differea lights by different individuals, there was one• indicatisn of feeling paramouut among all these, and at whien, they must all rejoice, and that was the increased as 3 still increasing feeling whi c h was exemp hfiod in behalf of measures tor the bettering th e concition and increasing the comfort of the working classes. That Was 11 matter which in former times had been too much se: glected.—(Hear, hear.) The wants or the Wishes of than class bad been too little attended to, and they might with the poet, that— , . " When a stately pile is raised, You never hear the workmen praised, Who used the lime and worked the stones, But all give praise to Inigo Jones." —(Cheers and laughter.) Ile trusted, however, tit° feeling of neglect would no longer prevail, and for himself he must say he could not think well of ell one who could slight or overlook those without whose exer tions they could have never risen to the stations the/ hold.—(Hear, hear.) But he telt an interest in this LW' dertaking in another point of view, he meant as a wor m ber of the House of Commons.—ellear, hear.) It us s f often fallen to hi s l ot , w h en ret i ring from the H ou se Commons and fag ge d ou t at two or three o ' cloc k in ther morning, having be en li s t en i ng to some i mporta nt aei bate, after envoy ing a few hours of sleep to have Plac e s on his breaktast table, when he got up, a correct s% lucid report of all the s p eec h es an d statemen t s be b_ ll , l been listening to the ni g h t p rev i ous, and i t was eaten that he should reflect on the skill and labour which b"" produced that report, and ask himself to whom be wBl indebted for it?—([Tear, hear.) Iu the first P 15,.%; no doubt, he was indebted to the reporters—a clan of men of the highest respectability and talent'l but be could not forget that when the reporters' w°,. l t was finished the printer commenced his, so that his labour was protracted throughout the night, s r ' t it was well known that the labour so carried on 111 ,1 1 ultimately make consid era b e i nroa d s i n t h e physL 1 e' t energies ef those engag e d i n i t. — ( H ear, hear.) 'ru ' therefore, was another inducement for them to do soine thing to nutter the declining years of those men COl s r s f)rtable. But on an occas i on such as the present,. might not be out of pl ace f or t h em to cons id er , n ot on,/l e the disadvantage s , b ut a l- o t h e advantages attending 113 professioe, for it was t h e f act, t h at w hit e there were oftentimes many circum s t ances w hi c h re d uce d them s° misery and destitution, there were, at the same dose, or portunities :afforded by the pr o fe ss ion, which, if prop er) taken advantage of, might raise them to eminence. Th e y had placed wi,hin thei r reac h th e wor k s o f the greates t authors, and hence ample opportunities of e nlighten w inF their minds, and, f or t una t e l y, t h ey h a d connect ed it their own prof ess i on a -brildant example of what coul d he done by careful Industry and study in that respect' Franklin—(l,ond cheers)—was a poor printer, and in the outset of his career, excited in no small degree the risible faculties of the good citizens of Boston, where be went in quest of work, while stalking about the street s with a small loaf in his pocket, and eating a third, bu t twenty years atter that event, F ran kli n b y ass id u ity and s study raised himself to be on e o f t h e c hi e f citizens o(1 Boston, and was afterward s sen t es Ambassador t , France, and became one of the chief statesmen of Ame rica. —(Hear, hear.) Su c h cou ld net b e t h e lot of Prlr t ; ters generally, but at th e same ti me muc h m i g ht be do; in raising themselves in the 'ocial scale. In the mesa time, however, he had to do with the untoward circa:Ai, stances which might bef a l th ose o f t h e pr i nt ing no r tf te i stun, and to point out t h e means to a ll ev i ate th e m. ' lt hours, he had already said, were a great means of 50 ? 11 , d impairieg the ener g ies o f men so engage d, an d be fe l : that the failure of e y es i g ht was an evi l w hi c h very fr e e '!.l,„ quently betel th em . I t was proper, t h erefore , that 0 should do all in th e i r p ower to ren d er t h e o ld a ge of ,11 4 men comfortable, a n d i t was i n t h at po i nt o f v i e w that m urged upon those who beard him the duty of ist!P l : porting the institution, the foundation-stone of leh le he had now laid.—(Cheers.) He ventured to hop° that in such a cause they would put forth their be energies, aid in such a cause he did not doubt but ;", blessing would descend f rom on high. Permit /L O then, to assure them of his c ordi a l good wishes in t e , io cause. He should ev e r remem b er t h at d a y ss " I 'he which he aided in c a r r yi ng on a l a b our o f l o ve. and or wished siucerely that their institution might tong V' h s per.—(Cheers.) Hi s earnest d es i re was t h at they te l i g o f always h a v e t h e means o f succour i ng the distress", hs their memb e rs, an d b e hoped that those who wig,, afterwards inhabit that b u ildi ng m i g h t spen d t he eve , h "; ing of their d a y s i n p eace an d h app i ness, an d in 1, humble hope of a ble sse d i mmor t a l ity .—(L ou d c h e ers./ The Noble Lord then descended from th e pietfort°' and left the pavilion amid loud and enthusiastic cheer issg. He we' conducted to his carriage by the twee . of the institution, and immediately left for town. ,h e In the ese sing " a friendly soi r é e " was h e ld at ' London Tavern. Between 200 and 300 l a dies and g ee ' teem , n were present at it. Mr. R. Tat for presided. 050 Votes of thanks were given to Lord Mahon• and bace to the treasurer, trustees, and other persons wb ° • ust ie been active in promoti ng th e esta bli s h men t o f the 1 tution. twee ll A very hnndsome subscriptio n ( amount i ng to be gee 3001. and 4000. was announced. Amongst them w are 10 guineas trona Lord Mahon, 40 guineas from Isle : 8 Clowes and Co. (making their donation 1001.) , . g",„ -- , es d f s r o o n m , Mr. C. u C i . n li ea n s i f g r h o t m , I.3.o.gaunidneHas. C fr o o x m ß M n e ,t s h s e rs rs . , T s ea g P u ' iv - e ti ss from Mr. W. Cox (exalusive of 10guineas to the er dowment fund), 10 guineas from lair. Richard TO " tor, &c. 0 We earnestly recommend the "Printers' AlmshoUse!, at Wood-green to the liberal supp ort o f every wealthy member of the trade. SALE OF MR. W. w. Hora's PICTURES, 4 51 C ., Yesterday thure was on view, at Christie and Manson st Mr. W. W. Hope's collection of pictures. They " t t; prise a selection Of works of the best mast ers °f , o lse , Italian, Dutch, and Sp an i s h sc h oo l s, i nc l u ding Murillos, Guidos, Wouvermanl, some good Iloec im en of tho p enc il of To-iliu if rs, and a number of works b., minor but favourite painters of the Dutch school. There is also a fair collection of Etruscan vases, an ti q ue bronzes, Limostne enamels, and enamels by The sale commences t o -d a y, an d w ill cont inue du rav the two following days. DUBLIN. JUNE 9.—Wind E.S.E.—Arrd. 10th, Belle, — Mitchell, Mauritius. tiCILLY, JUNE 11.—Wind E.—Arrd. 10th, Non Ninc ke, Harde, Porto Rico. BIRTHS. At Belvedere, Shrewsbury, on the 9th inst., the w i fe of Lieutenant Charles Maynard, R.N., of a daughter. On the 9th inst., a , . Millbank• row, Westminster, the of the Rev. W. Jephson, of a son. On the 7th inst., at Non-uch-park, Surrey, the lady of Vr F. G. Farmer, E*q., of a ion. On the 9th inst., at Lansdowne -terrace, Kensington - P ar the lady of J N. Emmet, Esq., of a daughter. On the 9th inst., at Parliame n t- s t reet , Mrs. George 1:1' Drew, • f a son. c At Brighton, on the 9th i ns t., th e H on . Mrs. Spencer Lytteltou, of a son. On the 9th inst., Mrs. J. W. Brown, Claremont Brixton-hill, of a daughter. MARRIED. On the sth inst., at Shawburn Hamilton, Lanarkshire' Andrew Sievw r i g h t, E sq., Li eutenant 9th Regiment, to Emi l y Hume, daughter of W. Henderson, Esq., Hamilton. t On the 9th i ns t., at S t. • cry ' s , t attersea, R o b ert Culber son, Esq., o f B a l l i sa d are , Sli go, to Agnes, daughter o f Jo hn Harvey, Esq., of Lavender-hill, Surrey. On the 9th inst., at St. John's, Hackney, Grastavus A- J, phus, second s o n o f Ed war d Si eve ki ng , E sq. , o f Staintoru hil , Midd:esex, to Elizabeth, only daughter of R. PudrO f° ' sq , of Clanton. squire. Hackney. MED On th • 4th inst., in Uppe r S e y mour - s t ree t, age d 24, I h n l Hon. Hobert IVilliani Devereaux Shirley, only brothe r - Earl Ferraro. r git On the 6th inst., at Edi n b urg h, L a d y H ay , w ife o f Adam Bay, art., of Smithfield and Haystoune. On the Bth inst., at Westbourne grove, Bayswater Chg le l Blake, Esq , late of th e H on . E ast I n di a CompanY's Establishment, St. Helena, aged 68. On the 9th inst., at Guildford, Surrey, Thomas Benso n ' , of Upper Woburn•place, London aged :0. nanald On the still inst., at Norland - square, N u ttin g -bib, -- Mack , nnon Esq , M.D. London: Printed and Published by MURDO YOUNG , 2 No. 112, Strand, Printer, at The Sun ,Office, No. 1/ of Strand, in the Precinct of the Savoy, in the county ° Middle/ex, Wedntidab 4121 13 1 18494 .