The Sun. — London, England, 1820-08-23 00:00:00

! ii r4l° • 4weel l I , tol' you (.1 "eh hours ?—Yes, I slept on one side of the tent and Carlino on t he other. What sort of sofas were put under the tents on these occa ?-orie was a Turkish sofa, and the other had iron rails. ._"°w was the sof a pl ace d ?—l n th e middle of the tent there ' - ' 4B a pilkow, and the sofa was placed close to it. Was it riot in every respect as a sofa placed in rooms ?—I Paid no particular attention to it; I only know that otte was Turkish sofa, and that the other had iron Did you not place a matress on it to render it soft ?—Yes. W " , not the nratress covered with leather ?—This I don't re nterstise r . Was it not your office to place this matress upon the sofa s es, mine and Carlitio's. as not that the same sofa used on board the polacca?—l ,10 1101' recollect. It it Was riot the same identical sofa, was it not su like it as to be easily taken for it I—l don't remember. Was it not her Royal High tress's constant practice during the '°Yage t o t h row herself down to rest d ur i ng t h e d ay w i t h ou t t ' 411 ,'"g• off tier clothes ) -1 . 4. this I paid no atteritisot. you take -elf to swear that during the whole upon yours . c lothes the voyage her Royal Highness took o ff one stitch of her -.°th es I—Olt !if You speak so I can understand you ; after I lisitiontiting front her horse she always undressed herself be °re she went to rest. likVlrat part of her clothes did she take off for that purpose ? tipper garments. g,, t ) w a you mean to say that her Royal Highness took . o ci ff in h o er , or merely a surtout or cloak that she wore while I (1011't remember. r iV as riot her Royal Highness in the habit of putting on a v.ssak before slie went to rest ?—I don't remember. bid her Roy a l High ne ss put on a mantle before she went to , ?—I don't rericitiber. tai, 'Vere there she ets arid blankets on the sofa, that one might e them off arid go to bed as in Europe ?-4 placed on the a feather bed. were there sheets on the bed ?—I don't remember. '''as it e xac tl y i n t h e same con diti on as during the v o yage ( board th e po l acca ?-1 d on ' t remem b er . l 6 You swear that eith e r during the voyage by sea or by - all you saw her Royal Highness take off one stitch of her clothes ?—1 don't recollect. except yourself and Carlino, ever made those beds ? ----I don't r e"''el r othe person. eiEHasL ), "44 1.1 not• that It. was your duty arid labour to ~,.:4 7 ( t ) 1 1t o . s e beds ?—We placed the bed un the sofa, and then J V iio u resnoved flue beds in the morning while on board ship ? ;I(.lein't recollect. you swearthat it was not yourself ?—I don't remember. ea, i '," 'were ordered to 1114 lie the bed we catried in the " 1- 1 and ti • m orning we were called to take away tire tu skitm , in th e . 'e nit 4 .‘e,sarsi ever seen the boy William Austin resting in the • don't remember. re„ - .', 0 Y, ‘ ° ,1 ever see Hieronymus in the same way ?—1 don't urr, 'sra v ^inti swear that they both did not rest in the same f n don't remem b er . rat ; the ruou t helots , where did Hieronymus sleep in gene doret reirreanher. 1 / . 1 " -re did th e Guinness of Oldi sleep I—l don't remember. r oon , l ere slid You yourself sleep ?-011 the sofa in the sante II : as th e y di ne d i n. ta,„(l tr er a riot a person of th e name of Caruerari sleep there l— ilu was riot a servant. did lie not s l eep th ere w hil e b e w a s o n b o ard ?—He ss,a, 50 t a servant. I don't know where he slept while on , sicßut,k ,you swear that your slept there always ?—When I felt Il i went below, and generally,' slept there. w,'ere did the maids sleep 1-1 don't know. y o tlere did Cdptain Flynn sleep I—l don't know. I.k us „'' know that there was an English officer of that name on vessel ?—Yes. Str es :""r; tlte whole voyage ?--Yes; Lieutenant Flynn was .1„;1,t during the whole voyage. land• voyage as well as the sea voyage ?—I don't re en whether he was present during the land voyage. 1 5 ,,, I I Your swear that lie was not at Palestine ? —This I don 't e mber Ab„, , • I s ns What aged man is Lieutenant Flynn I—l can't tell. e t a } e a inan about 30, or is he inure than 40 1-1 can't re -ISi he inlay be so. ,tu t a . ;, ‘ " o lder or ' younger apparently than the Captain of the sisea?-1 can't recollect. ‘' -a re vim ever seen him in your life, except during the le • ---I don't recollect. 11,, i 4v e You ever seen trim in your life at any of her Royal t, a ess's villas its Italy ?—I do not remember. Yiats tl • doubt your mind that he was nut in ee Last ) d 1 Highness's service while on shore ?—I don't re , T tii ) trr either yes or no. ••a f q You must recollect, about what time you saw him rennet trite last time I saw him was at Syracuse; I don't re- W er b a yc seen him since. esi" e ver sick during the voyage on board the po '.e shi p. always more unwell than well while on board He re v * ortls „ f . : r . rougham objected to the interpretation of the thew it' d the Short-hand Writer being called re ,ad lt: t. ; s l:o a te n s, gave .' the above translation. Mr. then caged upon anv one of their Lordships, who i pter i : r ta ,nY of them Italian sch Liars, to declare whether the tu,pretr.ation of the words was trot, as given at first by the r, almost always unwell. The 14 ;t1 ' lk e of HAMILTON said that those were the words of Lord e lPretee. ".tha t il,' , l !)EN rosy amidst cries of Order, order! and request -4:1.0r1 ' question might be repeated. , 4 ee„`.' i vetteo ot . conceived that there was so very slight a a( ' th, t e between the words read by the She Writer eedi„.z-st Said to be used by the Inteipreter, that such a pro- Ca , quite onneeessary. :„ t h.ert o CHANCELLOR said that no one, either within or ' w ytni Bar, had a right to iriterpret for the House ex ee i s person who ws sworn, and front him alone they Ol1 11(1 y„ to receive the a answers of the witness. I t i be k u u ld ikit sleep below when ill I—Yes, under the deck, .I‘”Ag 4 e, l l tort been frequently for days together during the You never made your appearance above at all? vet :It , "time,s one or two days without coming till• l b h utit ) e ° o ".."re2r that you were not several days together 4 44 4 4 You ''n-g‘up 1-1 was whole days without coming up. toe d whole days together ?=-For instance, in the st:ck,and ndcontinued belog lb oss; until next morning. et • •• swear that you were not more than two days to ,et.irs‘‘l,.ttl-it ever coming up at all I—l was one day and se i , 'II , 11 swear then that during the whole voyage you t.ltt•t 41°1 ‘'-' than one day and one night without coming klr. rougharn objected to the manner in which the ITlrtP7tte.r,tptit this question. as not su ffi cieritly literal. 117-Preter.—With great submission, my Lords, I beg 4' 'R4 I " t t if I did DIA Mr Brotwham's questions literally, h: S O P-IX: ti t ' ll t fellow would * not understand them. If I was ac i kl est4 o ,,! meaning; to a man of talent, I should then put Ih t a tim, another way, but if I did so On the present tLois macaroni • , 1 I t understand me. I wish , at e our won no . ,s 1 merpreter would try and put the question in a An, II 0 11. t.. for m. —(This address excited considerable laugh -14.e ut en- Lordships.) llo at 'Yoa pttlnterpreter was then placed beside the witness. all to sw ear t h at you were never wore than 24 d ick grog t u 4 4 e t . c .°'lling up on deck ?—Yes, Sir. ;nue you were on board did you keep watch on t remember. W, 1 , 1 "1t Only person who watched her Royal High 4idr y„; did not sleep on deck. \lrtelt l et o nly , person on deck when you saw the test mid tti l ber e i t ? don't rem ember. tho se n e , ° .sailors on board this ship ?—There were. '" , rie r 'use ,‘" come on duck at night I—Never. 'e aleta t ' e llent sail o rs al wa ys 'remain below I—This I W. - nt op. Yr; if they slept in the hold during the night th Z a ß t t ki bill e t row if . le ft to go a l one a t n i g ht wi th o ut sail o rs ?—I h t Bayou Law the sail ors were i n t h e h e ld d ur i ng t h e night. AI ttT • the s a il ors on board during the day ?—Yes, in hilt n ' a nY sailors were there on board ?—I cannot "ler f Al, * Ph, You e , -ou r?-4 cannot remember. -4 ear there were not twenty-four ?—I cannot I,, t t ‘ l e . sr,,q , I:12e was the ship ?—I canno t g i ve an y a cc ount td d, '4( WlltlP"e I have no knowledge of ships. e , ler there were two or twenty-two sailors on , 1 1 ‘ 1 ..'is L i t t e li t - e 411" t ake upon you to swear ?—No, no, no, 1 h et the owner of the ship. I,‘V ahY officers belonging to the ship 1-1 can't 1 1. sl . Ira, Ik. 'pt „ Nt itow that the place where yon slept below cannot dt pa rt oft sl ept there, but do not remember who else. il, 4 ",h, it io sl eep ) I , l e ressel was it customary for the livery . t k ik . did Is girlt ;. ----1 /is I don't know. nlitrt gator sleep during the three voyages ' " sl eep yourself I—Below. Were you ever yourself in the room where the Princess used to dine I—Yes. How many doors were there leading from it after you en tered ?—This I don't recollect. Do you not know that there were two rooms communicating with the dining room don't remember. Was not the bath taken in the dinii ' , room itself ?—Not in the dining room, b u t i n th e room beside it. Oh, then, there was another room leading from the dining room, which you did not just now recollect I—As soon as you entered there was a small room from the dieing room, where the bath was prepared. How often did the Princess take the bath during the voy age I—l cannot swear but to two times. She might have taken it oftener, but I cannot swear to more. Was it Bergami's duty to prepare the bath for her Royal Histlinessr—This I cannot swear, but I believe not. Whose office was 4?-1 was ordered to carry the water to the bath. Did you carry the water to the bath, or only to the door of the dining-room I—l was ordered to make the bath and to till the bath with water ; I then called Bergami, who came down, and put his band in the bath to try its temperature. I was then ordered to get ready more water in case it might be required. Wiieii you called Bergami down was any other person pre sent but Bergami and yourself ?—No one else. Di 4 you not then retire, and *aye Bergami to see whether the bath was properly heated I—After I called Bergami, and he had thrust his hand into the bath to see Ivhether it was sufficiently hot or cold, I was then ordered to retire to pre pare more water in case it might be wanted. To this dining room was there not another room also be side the bath room opening ?-1 do not remember. Will you swear that there were not two rooms leading to the dining room ; one belonging to the Princess, the other to the Countess of Oldi ?—I do not remember. Put you will swear that Catuerari did nut sleep there ?-1 never saw. him. Did you ever see him during the voyage at all ?—Yes; He was on board. Was he not on board, and with her Royal Highness, during the whole long voyage I—Yes ; but 1 don't remember where he slept. Will yots swear that he did not sleep in the dining-room during the voyage ?—This I cannot swear. Was he not with her Royal Highness during the whole land as well as the sea voyage I—He seas. Was he riot page and courier to her Royal Highness I—l remember that he was courier; but I do not know whether he was page. He was no relation to Bergami ?—This I don't know ; 1 cannot know. You have said of other persons in her Majesty's suite that they were relations of Bergaini, became you have heard them spoken of as such. Was he said in the same way to be a rela tioo of Bergami's I—This I never heard. What maids had her Royal Highness with her during her long voyage ?—Mademoiselle Dumont and Mademoiselle Julie. How lung is it since you saw Mademoiselle Dumont I—At Na p Where did von last see her ?—At Pesaro; 1114Ve never seen her since that. 1)0 you know where she is now ?—No. Do you know whether she is dead or alive ?—No. Have you ever heard of her since?—`goer. Hare you ever heard her talked about since ?—Never. You never heard her name mentioned since you left Pe saro ?—I never heard it. Have you heard Sacehini's name mentioned since you left Pesaro I—Yes, I have heard his name spoken of. Where did you see him last ?—I saw hint at the Piazza at Milan; I never saw hint since that ; possibly I might have seen him, but I certainly did not speak to him. Who, or was any one present, but yourself, when you saw Bergami and your mistress together at breakfast ?—I don't understand. You said yesterday you saw them at breakfast together, dial you or not . —Yes, I have. Then did any one see them together besides yourself and Hieronymus ? The Sowayrott-GENERAL—He has not yet said that Hie ronymus saw them with him. I object to the question, unless you can show that Hieronymus saw them together with the witness. Mr. BitououAss—Well, then, I'll put it another way. Did you see theth ' , ourself ?—Yes. Did Hieronymus see them with you ?—I don't remember. Was the Countess Oltli there ?—I don't remember. Was Hieronymus there at the time you saw the Princess and Bergann together at breakfast ?-1 don't remember. Then, whether Hieronymus was present or not you emmut say?-1 cannot. Who besides yourself was present when you saw Bergami salute her as they weie going into Sicily? The Solicitor General.—He said Terracina. Mr. Brougham. —I thought he said Messina. Witness.—l said Terracina. There was no one but Berga mi, the Princess, and myself. Who was by, when Bergami saluted her on the occasion of the Princess's going into Italy at the time of the quarantine ? There was no one else but the Princess, myself and Bergami. %Vas it not on deck after dinner that he kissed her?--No; it was under deck, at Tetracina. Was it not after ditint, ?—Yes. Where had they din;:d ?—I don't remember. I know though, it was after dinner. Was it i❑ the room where they dined that this took place? It was after dinner in the dining-room. The Princess was there ; Ilergami came to take his leave previous to his de parture. . . Were you in the same room with them then ?—T was pre sent• There was no one else there, but her Royal Highness, Bergami, and myself. When she had the tent on board at night, under which she slept, did she keep a light hurnime, ?—No, she did not. You swear that ?—Yes. Were you at the Villa D'Este soon after you left the ser vice of the Princess 1-I'es ; after I left her service at Pesaro I went there. Did you go straight from Pesaro ?—Yes, quite direct. How long was that after leaviog her?-1 don't remember. Was it days or weeks I—l don't remember the number. Have you ever been there since that I—Yes, I was there a second time.l How long after the first was that I—l don't remember. Was it months, or weeks ?—Not months; I don't think it was so much as that. Did 01 , ever apply to get back to the Queen's service after you left it I—l don't remember. Did you ever apply to Count Vassali to use Iris influence in getting you restored don't remember. Did you ever apply to Bartolomoßerpini for the same pur pose ?—Never. Did you ever apply to Louis Bergami ?—I don't remember. Did you ever apply to.Saccliiiii to have you brought back ? —1 did once. Only once ?—No more. Where was that ?—At the hotel of Italy. How long was this after you had left the service of the Princess don't remember. Was it a week after I—lt was more than months. Wil! vou swear it was half a year after I—l can't speak as to months or days. Did you ever write a letter to be taken hack, either to Bartolomo Bergami, Louis Bergami, Count Vassali, or Sac chini ?—Never. It is my misfortune not to know much of writing.—(A laugh.) Did you get any one else to write a letter for you to Ber gami, after leaving the service of the Princess I—Never, as far as I recollect. When you did afterwards make application to be restored at the hotel of Italy, were you not refused I—l don't re member. Were you in fact taken back to the service ?—No, I was not. Have you ever since been restored in fact ?—I have not. Was not Sacchini on board the whole of the long voyage to the East I—Yes, he was on board. And on shore I—Yes, he came also on shore during the voyage. In all the journies by land, did not the Countess Oldi, and the child Vittorine travel in the same carriage with the Prin cess I—Questo non me ricordo. Was Billy Austin in the same carriage ?—Questo non me ricordo. Whose house did she occupy at Carlsruhe ?—Questo non me ricordo. Was it an inn, or a private house ?—I believe it was an inn. Do you not know that it was an apartment in an inn, which the English Ambassador vacated in order to accommodate her ?—I don't remember. Were not Billy Austin, the Countess Oldi, and the child Vittorine with the Princess on the journey to Carlsruhe 1— (,luesto non me ricordo. Will you swear that they were not all there ?—They were on the journey. Were they not there the whole time?—They were. Did they not go every where she went?—They followed the Princess. Was not the journey to Baden undertaken by the Princess in order to pay a visit to the Elector, who was her relation?— I remember we set out for Baden, but the purpose of the journey I did not know. Did nut the Elector wait upon her at Carlsrube, and did she not go to his Court ?—Questu non me ricordo particular. Indite (precisely.) Do yon recollect, that whilst at Baden, she went to Court at all ?- 4 -NO, I do not ; but I can't speak of it positively. Did thelinglish Minister live with her there ?—Questo non me ricordo. Did he live in the same house with her ?—Questo non me ricordo. Do you remember the name of the English Ambassador ? Quest. non me ricordo. You told us of a change having been made in the Villa d'Este (hiring the Queen's voyages; now, was there not a new wing added to it ?—Questo non me ricordo. Do you mean to say, that you don't remember a new wing being added to the house whilst your mistress was away ? Questo non me ricordo. Will you swear that Lieut. Hownam was not present when Mahomet played those tricks ?—I had not seen him. Who else was there besides yourself, the Princess, and the black performer ?—I had not seen any one else. Were you the person sent to bring this Mahomet ?-1 do not remember. In what situation was Mahomet at the time ?—Hc was be fore the window of the Princess. It) what position did you stand ?-1 was on the same side of the court on which the Princess was looking out of the win dow. The Princess was on one side and Nlabomet on the other. Theo from the position in which you stood you could see her !royal Highness ?—I could. And 'do you swear that she could not see you ?—I believe she could not ; I do nut know that she had seen me. Who was it that ordered Mahomet to play those tricks 1-1 do not know. Fur any thing that you know to the contrary there might be sonic persons in the room standing, - behind her Royal High ness?-1 cannot say; I saw the Princess look out of the window. Did you never see Mahomet play tricks on any other occa sions ?—Yes ; I have seen him play at Barona. Was her Royal Highness present on that occasion ?—Yes. What other persons were present ?—There were several ; but I do not recollect who they were. Were there not both men and women present? They were chiefly servants. Were you in the service of her Royal Highness when the affair of the Baton Ompteda was under consideration ? [Here the Solicitor-General objected to this question, •n the ground that the witness was not to be supposed to know anv thing of such a person as Baron Ompteda.] Was there not a person called the Baron Ompteda visiting the Princess ?-1 do not know of any such person by that name. Did yon see a certain Baron at any time at the residence of her Royal Highness ?—Yes. Can you state whether it was before you went upon the long voyage, that you saw the Baton ?—Yes. Did you see hint dining at table with her Royal Highness ? —Yes, at the Villa Villani and at Villa D'Este. Do you know hint to be a German Baron ?-11e might have been a Prussian. How do you know whether he was a Prussian or a German, what was his name ?—1 cannot pronounce his name precise ly, because it was an extraordinary name. He was called the Baron, the Baron. Was he often at the house of her Royal Highness ?—I re member him at her Royal Highness's residence. What makes you recollect ?-1 don't know. Was there any noise about this Baron at her Royal High ness's house ?—This I do not recollect. Were you in the service of her Royal Highness at Villa Villani or d'Este, when a blacksmith was exami ne d res p ec ti ng the picking of locks belonging to her Royal Highness ? This I do nut recollect. Or about making false keys ?-1 do not recollect. You never heard coy thing about this circumstance ?—I do not remember to have heard anything of it. Du you remember no quarrel between Hieronymus and the German Baron ?—I heard of the quarrel, but I do not re member to have heard the cause. What time did you bear of the quarrel ?-1 du not reco lest. About bow long before you left the service of her Royal Highness, a year, a month, or a week ?—1 do not recollect. Do you intend to say, that you know not whether it was a week or two years ?—I do not recollect. Do you recollect what company came to the theatre, at which her Royal Hiehness acted twice I—Yes; nut all. Where; at the Villa d'Este ?-1 don't know. Did you ever see the Prefect Totnasia and his Lady there ? —1 don't recollect. Or Professor Mochetti ?—I remember to have seen Profes sor Mochetti there. Visiting, or at the theatre ?-0n a visit, but not at the theatre. Did you ever see General Goubrier and his Lady there remember to have seen him there accompanied by a lady; hut Whether his wife or not I cannot tell. Did you ever see General Pius I—Once, as I recollect. Used you then wait at table ?—Yes, Sir. Will you take upon yourself to say, that General Pino, your old master, had never visited there more than once?— Once alone that I recollect. Did you know the persons of the Prefect Tomasia and his Lady I—Yes. Did they dine there more than once ?—Not that I recollect. Did you see him there, besides at dinner ?—Never but Once. You never saw him more frequently ?—I remember but once. Did they attend at the theatre ?--1 don't recollect. Do you recollect the persons who performed at it ?—No. Did Hieronymus don't recollect. Did Cavelleiti ?—1 don't lecollect. Did you mean to say you never saw any thing represented but by her Royal Highness and liergami ?—This I don't know, the moment I entered, 1 saw her !Loyal Highness and Bee gami ; I saw not the other people. What sort of a comedy W7iS it ?—liergami was dressed as a sailor, and was acting the buffoon with a bladder; when be saw me, he and her Royal Highness then withdrew. Did Mahomet perform his dance at the comedy ?—I don't know. Where did von go after you quitted the service of her Royal Highness? —1 became a servant to the Marquis Odescalchi. Hon- long after you had quitted the service of her Royal Highness ? —Five months. How long did you remain its the service of the Marquis Odescalchi?—About a year. All that time in Italy ?—tio ; partly in Germany, at Vienna. How soon after you had entered the Marquis's service (lid you go to Germany ?—Two or three months ; I cannot pre cisely recollect to a day; but it was thereabouts. How long did you remain at Vienna?—About six or seven months ; I cannot precisely speak as to the number of days. What were your wages by the year ?—At Milan 50 soldi per day; at Vienna four livres. How many suldi in a litre ?—Twenty. What was the reason of your wages being raised at Vienna ? —Because I was obliged to procure dinner at my own cost. What wages did you receive from her Royal Highness ? Every three months I received 29 ducats. How many livres in a ducat ?—I do nut precisely know; I believe about eq. You had therefore, while in the service of her Royal. High ness, those 29 ducats every three months, and board'—Yes. Had you any perquisites or other advantages beside, while you were in her Royal Highness's service ?—I don't recollect. Was her Royal fligliness kind to her servants ?—She was kind.hearted and familiar. M the Marquis Odescalchi's you had to cook for yourself ? —I was provided with souse food. The Interpreter here explained to their Lordships the de scription of food; he designated it a species of hodge-podge, without meat. You made a small fortune while in the service of her Royal Highness ?-1 saved 700 livers. H ow soon ?—lts three years. Did you save any thing while at the Marquis Odescalchi's? I contrived to save a little fur my family. What family have you ?—.l wife and two daughters. How old are your daughters ?—One of them is nine years old ; the other is ;shout two (sod a half or three years. What time did you enter the service of the Marquis Odes calchi ?—About two years ago. Into whose family did you enter after you left it ?—into the Ambassador's at Vienna. What is his name ?—Lord Stewart. What Ambassador's ? — Th e E n g li s h . In what capacity, as a valet, a lacqney, or a postillion ? Lord Stewart only gave me my subsistence. Do you intend to say that y ou were attach e d to the Em bassy ?—I was always at the nillassador's house. As a secretary or as a friend ?—N“. Do you speak to him?—No, but to his Secretary. When did you first see him ?—I don't recollect. What was his name ?—Colonel Mend. An Italian or Englishomo ? —I don't know. What language did he speak ?—French. Do you know Colonel Br o wn ? — I do. Englishman ?—I don't k now . Italian r you first see Colonel Brown ?—At Mil an . t%'hWhatWhich is he, g a e n t o, %li n t E o you?—French. Where did Did you see him when you were in the service of Marquis Odescalchi ?—I was not at service when 1 first saw him. I had left that of the Marquis. Did you leave the Marquis Odescalchi before you saw Cul. Brown ?—I went front Vienna to Milan. With, or to Col. Brown ?—To him. With whom did you go ?—With my father. When did you go front Vienna ?—On the 13t't of August, three years ago. In Isl . ' ' ' . ?—Yes. What year did you leave her Royal Highness ?—ln 1917. What month ?—( don't recollect. Summer or Winter ?—Summer, I think about the beginning. How long after you quitted her Rural Highness did ,you go to Vienna?—About live or six months. The Lonn CHANCELLOR intimated to their Lordsh . ps that four o'clock had arrived, the hour which had heel, spejned as that at which their Lordships were to adjourn. Mr. Brougham—" May 1 implore your Lordships not to stop short at this critical period of the cross-examination of a witness, upon whose testimony su much filepends."—(Cries of Gu on, gu ott.) Some of their Lordships expressed a wish to learn at what time the Learned Counsel would undertizhe to terminate. Mr. Brougham—" My Lords, it is hard for me to specify any time. There are many of your Lordships who nut be longing to the profession are perhaps ignorant of the great importance of not interrupting the cross-examination of a witness. One answer unexpectedly given has caused me to proceed a full half hour."—(Cries of Go on, go o❑ !) Was your father in the service of the Marquis Odescaichi ? —No. Was your father in the service of any person ?—My father. came to me at Vienna. Who sent him ?—I don't know. What is your fat herl—A carter or charioteer. Does he carry trom Milan to Vienna I—No. How came he to come to Vienna; on what business?—To take use from Vienna to Milan. When your father came to Vienna, were you living in the house of the Ambassador ?—No. Were you supported at the house of the Ambassador ?—No. In whose service were you then I—ln that of the Marquis Odescalchi. When your father came to Vienna, did you see Colonel Durini or Colonel Brown saw Colonel Durini at Vienna, and Colonel Brown at Milan. What induced you to leave the service of the Marquis ? My father told me to go to Milan, and as my fattier desired me to go, I went. For what reason I—Colonel Brown wished to speak to me. Did you not know that your bread depended upon your con tinuing in the service of the Marquis Odescalchi Well you went to speak to Colonel Brown ?—Yes, Sir. So if Colonel Brown would hid you conic from Vienna to Milan to speak to him you would conic ?—(Cries of Order !) Mr. BROUGLJAM—." My Lords, I have to implore your Lordships to suffer the cross-examination to proceed, parti cularly in a case on which that which is dearer than life, the honour of my Illustrious Client, is concerned. 17pun this cross-examination much depends in order to dispel the charges of a foul conspiracy. In this House I see Learned Judges, who, by their cross-examining witnesses, have saved the lives of men front being sacrificed to base conspiracies. They know the value of a cross•examination, and will your Lordships prevent it from being conducted as it ought ?"—(Gu on, go on !) Question repeated. When my father bade me I would go. So, if your father would bid you go to Col. Black as well as to Col. Brown you would go ? The Solicitor-General objected to this question as hypo thetical, and as not strictly Mr. Brougham said that he should therefore put it in ano ther form. Did you ever before go on a similar occasion to Col. Brown ? Never before my fattier desired me to come to him. Had you ever seen Col. Brown before you went to Milan to speak to him I—Never. How did you support yourself noon the journey from Vienna to Milan ?—My father paid my expences. Has he made a fortune as a carrier?—No; he has made no fortune. Has your father any more money than what he makes front day to day by his trade. I don't know. Did you live comfortable on your journey to Milan I—We wanted nothing. By what conveyance did you travel ?—ln a small calash. When you came to Milan, did your fattier introduce you to Colonel Brown, so as to speak to him?—Yes. Did you complain to him of having lost a good place in con sequence of your coming to Milan don't recollect. Did you make a bargain with the Marquess Odescalchi to return to his service upon going back to Vienna 1-1 don't recollect. Have you any doubt upon the subject ?—I don't recollect. Have you since been in the service of the Marquis Odescal chi I—Yes. When did you go hack into his service ?—I never went hack into the Marquis's service. When I went hack to Vienna I . was asked if 1 would accompany the Marquis into Hungary, whither he was going into the country. What, as a friend upon a hunting partyl—No ; I was asked if I would accompany hint tot three mouths as a cook. Did you go for nu wages I—He made me a present; I was not in his service. Was the Marquess a friend to the English Ambassador ? I don't know. Did you never see hint at the English Ambassador's house ? —I don't know. How long since you returned front Hungary?—Last year, after August or September. How did you support yourself front Vienna to Milan, and afterwards upon your return to Vienna ?—The Ambassador gave me money to live upon. Did he give any thing upon your going to Milan don't know. Who paid the expences of your father ?-1 dont't know. How did you go ?—By post. How, both times ?—No. How the second time ?—By the veturino. Who gave you money to pay for yourself ?—Col. Brown. Has your father come to this country ?—Yes. Has your wife ?—Yes. Have you children ?—No, Vat is the name of the hotel at which you remain in Lon don ?-1 don't know. After some further questions respecting the Witness's present place of residence, which he could not answer, Lord FaLmount, from the gallery, asked, whether the cross-examination was nearly con cluded ?—(Cries of " Go on.")—Supposing that the business would close to-day at four o'clock, he had made a private engagement accordingly, though lie was quite ready to sit till 6 or 7 o'clock, if necessary. Lord DONOUGHMORE thought the rule, if made, ought to be adhered to. Nobody could tell whether the cross-examination might not last two hours more. He thought that the wit ness deserved protection, and that some part of the cruss-examination might have been spared. Ile moved an adjournment. Earl GREY had seen nothing in the disposition of the House not to give protection to the wit ness. Very material questions to elicit the truth had been put, and he thought that no rule could be more injurious than one which forced the House to separate at a critical moment, by which the ends of justice might be defeated. If a rule were made, he hoped it would be extended to live o'clock. Lord FALMOUTH added, that he had not inter posed till half past four. The Loan CnANcELLoa was in favour of ad hering to the rule. lie had not entered the House this morning till five minutes- past 10, in consequence of consulting with the Judges on a matter of life and death ; and their farther deli beration had been postponed till after the ad journment to-day. It was impossible to know what questions might turn out to be material or immaterial. Adjourning at five o'clock would gain six hours in the week, and that he consi dered a very material acquisition. 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