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off, and that speedily, they dreaded the approach of an other winter. Something must be done for them. =The Rev. Mr. STANYON, of Melbourne, stated that the distress existing in Melbourne and its neighbourhood was most appalling. Melbourne had a population of 3,000 persons; it was a manufacturing village situated in„a rural district. The manufactures consisted of shad stockings, silk blond, and silk. Wages had depreciated within the last six years from fifty to sixty per vent. The value of capital invested in machinery had depreciated 40 per cent. The result was poverty and destitution. He knew a case of a family, consisting of four or five persons, whose united earnings did sot amount to more than four shillings a week. In one family, the members of which attended upon his minis try, the mother and the son, who were both reli gious characters, told him that now they did not like to converse on religion, for they found it difficult to believe, in consequence of the distress and destitution they were suffering. In the neighbouring village of Castle Donnington there were likewise hundreds out of employment. These persons all fully understood the cause of the misery, .which they attributed entirely to the Corn-laws ; and they were earnestly desirous of co operating with this Conference for their removal. Mr. SUTTON said he had merely to state, with refer ence to the district round the parish of West Ham, that the poor-rates had recently been very considerably in creased. Up to f%larch last the rates were 9d. in the pound. In the month of March they were called upon for an increased rate of ls, in the pound, and lately they had been called upon for a ls. 6d. rate. They had re fused the Is. 6d. rate, but agreed to a ls. 3d. rate. Now the district round was nut manufacturing but agricul tural. He, therefore, thought it right to make that statement to the meeting, in order that they should know that it was not in the manufacturing alone that the distress prevailed. There was one factory carried on by John Tucker, and there the wages of the working people had been reduced in all 25 per cent. During the winter time, in the parish of West 'Tarn, there was a subict•iption raised for supplying the poor with coals, potatoes, and other things, the necessaries of life, or they would be in a much more deplorable state. It was very much feared; that after the partial employment now offered them in field labour, they would be in a most deplorable si tuation as the winter approached. He would observe, with regard to the builders in the neighbourhood, they now employed fewer hands than ever. With regard to the shopkeepers, the poor people were obliged to pur chase the smallest amount of 'necessaries they could ask for. The builders, as he said before, had hardly any men employed. With regard to the small houses, a very great number of them were untenanted, and those that were let the landlords had great difficulty in getting the rent for. He had thou;ht proper to m a ke thi s s t atement , h av i ng heard that it was desirable that the public should be informed of the increase in the amount of the poor -rates in the various districts of the country. A DELEGATE inquired if the population in West Ham was not partly agricultural and, partly manufacturing ? The CHAIRMAN said that the population was so dense, that they could not call -. 4t , from the small portion of its inhabitants connected, with manufactures, a manufac turing district. Mr. PALMEI:., of Essex ' said, that the agricult ura l labourers write in a most deplorable condition. They obtained partial employment during the summer, and 'Luring the winter, they remained entirely wfsemployed. This population resided near Lon ion, and the farmers, as they were called, are market-gardeners ; so that if the agricultural labourers were prosperous at all it would be in the neighbourhood of London.—(Hear, hear.) The labourers' wages in West Ham averaged about 2s. a day. They were not employed the whole week. If they s ent to work in the morning, anal it was a wet day, the farmer said he did not want them that day, they must go home. This happened two or three times a week, and on Saturday night, instead of the man receiving 125., he got perhaps Bs. or 10s. He (Mr. Palmer) was a shopkeeper in the neighbourhood, and was perfectly conversant with the state of the labour ing people. During the last winter the poor came in for pennyworths of tea and sugar, when they used to come for two ounces of tea and a pound of sugar. He often had his feelings harrowed up in witnessing the scenes of distress; anThe often in commiseration accommodated them with things until he could go no farther, as, if they went behind in the least, they were never able to make it up again. This proved that the argument that the Corn-laws were a benefit to the agricultural labourers was fallacy.—(Cheers.) Th e y wo rk e d badly for the opera tive and the ag,ricultural labourer, and of course they were bad for the whole labouring population. When the pOer were driven to such distress, and when they did get a little money, was it to be wondered at that they should fly to beer as a resource of comfort ? for whatever temperance people might say about there being no nourishment in beer, yet it was a stimulent. And was it to be wondered at that they should not heed the ex hortation of ministers of the Gospel? Such was the state of the agricultural population, and he was afraid unless something were done that it would remain so. The Rev. Mr. FERGUSON, of Leicester, said that so great was the alarm created by the present distressed state of the country, that the humbler members of his congregation were constantly asking him whether " they had risen as yet in Yorkshire, and whether there had been anv disturbances in the manufacturing districts." Mr. ADORE wished to say, in confirmation of what had fallen from Mr. Palmer as to th, inefficiency of the Coin•laws to protect agriculturists, that no class was more distressed than the agricultural population of Ire . hind. There were no manufactures, it might be said, in . Ireland, and the Corn-laws were established there as in this country. But under the influence of those laws the produce of the Irish soil left the country, and the farmers lived upon potatoes and buttermilk, and 'thci'lab , wrers upon potatoes and salt. He believed it was fully proved, that notwithstanding the richness of the soil of Ireland, the moisture of the :dimate rendered it unfit for the growth of wheat. The most profitable crops • for the Jrish farmer would be green crops and flax. The result of the present Corn-laws was to encourage the farmer, tinder the influence of a fallacious protection, to cultivate wheat, which failed in many seasons, and which, under any circumstances, was exported from the country for the payment of rents. Under the present system, too, the landlords frequently ejected the poor cottars that they might place their lands in the hinds of farmers, rvho employed large capital in the growth of wheat. Let ' the Corn-laws be repealed, and green crops and flax would be grown in Ireland, the linen trade would flourish to an extent never known before, manufactures would spring up, and other resources, besides the cultivation of .. land, would be opened to the people. In what did the Corn-laws protect. the Irish farmer ? They protected him in bare feet, ragged clothes, and a wet floor to lie upon. They protected him in starvation ; and they pro tected the landlord in the right to wring from him every thing but his starvation. The sooner the people of Ire ' land got rid of such protection the better.—(Cheers.) The CHAIRMAN intimated to the meeting that the time fuy adjourning had come ; and he wished, previous to their breaking up, to inform the Delegates that seats . would be provided for them in the House of Lords to . hear Lord Brougham. They would therefore proceed to the House in a body. The meeting then adjourned till 11 o'clock to-day. PARLIAMENTARY DIVISIONS. (From the Votes and Proceed:nen, the House of Commons. ) FRIDAY, JULY 8. DISTRESS OF THE COUNTRY. DIVISION ON MR. WALLACE'S RESOLUTIONS. Question put, " That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Question :"—The House divided : MAJORITY—AYES, 174. Arland, Sir Thomas Ferrand, W. B. Mainwaring, T .k'Court, Captain Ffolliott, John Manners, Lord C. Adderlev, C. B. Fitzroy, Hon. H. Marsham, Viscount Alford, Viscount Flower, Sir James Masterrnan, John Antrobus, Edmund Foll e tt. Si r W. W. Meynell, H. Archdall, General Forbes, William Miles, P. W. S. Arkwright, George Forster, Matthew Manes, R. M. Bailey, J. Fuller, A. E. Morgan, Octavius Bailey, Joseph, jun. Gaskell, J. M. Mundy, E. M. BaiMe, Colonel Gladstone, W. E. Neeld, Joseph Baldwin, C. Barry Glad s t one , T. Ni c h ol ' , J I;aring, W. B. Glynne, Sir S. R. O'Brie,, A. Stafford Barneby, John Gordon, Hon. W. Packe, C. Wm. Bateson, Robert Gore, Montague Pakington, John S. Beckett, William Goring, H. D. Palmer, R. Bentinck, Lord 0 Goulburn, H. Patten, J. Wilson Blackburn, John I. Graham, Sir J. Peel, Sir Robert Blakemore, R. f Greenail, Peter Peel, Jonathan Bodain, W. H. Greene, T. 0. Pigot, Sir R. Bolder°, Henry G. Grimsditch, T. l Pollington. Viscount Borthwick, Peter Grimston, Lord Pollock, Sir Fred. lotfield, Beriah Grogan, Edward Praed, William T. Bradshaw, James H alforel, H. Pringle, Alexander Broadwood, H. , ; Hamilton, W. J. Pusey, Philip Brodie, W. B. Hamilton' Lord C. Rashleigh , William Bruce, Lord E. I Hanmer, Sir John Repton, George J. Buckley, Edmund Hardinge, Sir H. Richards, Richard Buller, Sir J. B. Y. Hardy, John Rous, lion. Captain Campbell, A. Hen,age, E. if ushisrooke, Colonel Cardwell, Edward Henley, J. W. Russell, Charles Christopher, R. A. Herbert, Hon. S. Ryder, G. D. Clayton, R. R. Hervey, Lord A. Sandon, Lord Clerk, Sir G. Hinde, J. H. Sheppard, Thomas Cilve, R. H. Hodgson, R. Sibthorp, Colonel Cockburn, Sir G. Hope, Charles Sotheron I'. H. Collett, W. Rickford Hornby, John Stanley, "Lord Colville, C. It. Howard, P. H. Stuart, 14. Compton H. Hugh es , W. B. S u t ton, H on. H. M. Corry, H. L. Hussey, Thomas Talbot, C. It. M. Courtenay, Viscount Jackson, Serjeant Taylor, J. gi.. Cripps, J. Jena yn, Earl Trench, Sir Frederic Darner, Hon. Dawson Johnstone, Sir John Trollope, Sir John Darby, George .lelliffe, Sir W. Vane, Lord H. Dawnay, Hon. W. Jones, T Vere, Sir C. B. Denison, E. Beckett Kemble, Henry Verner, W. Dodd, George Knatchbull, Sir E. Vernon, Granville Douglas, Sir Howard K n i g ht, H enry G a ll y Vesey, Thomas Douglas, J. D. S. Lefroy, Anthony Vivian. John Ennis buncombe, A. , Legh, George C. Waddington, H. s. East, James Buller Leicester, Earl of Walsh, Sir J. Eastnor, Viscount Lemon, Sir C. Wilbraham, R. B. Eaton, Richard J. Lincoln, Earl of Wodehouse, Edmond Egerton, W. T. Litton, E. Wood, Colonel T. Eliot, Lord Lockhart, William Wortley, J. Stuart Escott, Bichkam Lowther, J. H. Yorke,„Hon. E. T. Estcourt, T. G. B. Lowther, Colonel Young, John Farnham, E. B. Lygon, General TELLERS. Feilden, W. Mackenzie, W. F. Fremantle, Sir T. Ferguson, Sir K. A. MacGeachy, F. A. Baring, H. B. Agllonby, H. A. Barnard. E. G. Bowring, Dr. Brotherton, J. Browne, W. Bu.tei'd, Wm. Callaghan, Dani Carew, R. S. Chapman, Benjamin Cotieen, Richard Collins, %V. Craig, W. Gibson Crawford, W. S. Duncan, George Duncombe, T. S. Ellis, Wynn Elphinstone, Howard' Ferguson, Lolonel L NORITY—NOES, Heiden, J. Thomas Gordon, Lord F. Hall, Sir B. Hastio, A. Hindley, Charles Hollond, Robert Johnson, General Layard, Captain Marshall, W. Martin, John I J Morris, David Murphy, F. S. Napier, Sir Charles O'Brien, J. O'Connell, M. J. Pechell, Captain 49. Philips, Mark Pryse, Pryse Ricardo, John Lewis Scholefield, J. Smith, Benjamin Somers, J. P Stanstield, W. R Stewart, P. M. Strutt, Edward Turner, E Villiers, Charles P. Wawn, John T. Williams, Wm. Wood, Benjamin TELLERS. lime, Joseph Wallace, R. THE MARKETS.-(YESTERDAY.) CORN EXCHANGE. The past week's arrivals of English rain were moderate, and considerable of foreign Wheat. 'file fresh supply of English Wheat was good, but limited of other grain. Übe runs of English wheat sold heavily at Is. to 2s. per quarter decline from last Monday's terms. In foreign little was done at its former value. Barley, Beans, and Peas as last quoted, with a small demand. Oats sold slowly, and hardly maintained their previous tet Ins. In Flour no variation. B,RKIVALS OF GRAIN IN LONDON DURING LAFI' WEEK. Wheat. Ftariv , v, , tit SC , Flou- English Irish lO - 15,049 i -... Foreign 36.190 220 8,632 1 8,712 SILICIS ON BOARD OT SPIT Wheat,Red (old) s. -s. i Beans, Small k new) 37. Ns. -- - White (o 14) 4l. -s. - (old) 42' 466. ----- Retl;lB44 .......50s. 545. - Tick (new) 27 30 s , ----- Fine 55. 60, --- ( old) 38..405. ---- Superfine 623. f4s. --. Harrow (new) 31,335. ---- White (1841)....5 s. sss. ---- (old) 388.42( -----.--- Fine 606 633 Brank --...5uperfine......665. 70s. Oats, Feed ~,-e. -a -..-Foreign free 52s 726 ---- New 168.245. Rye 351. 40s - Poland mss... s . Barley 268 326. New - Grinding •'6. 30.. -- Potatoe - Malting 30s, 32.. Malt .5611. 60. - Scotch ..... 278.295, .-- Fine New .625. Ms. - Irish 15s. ...185.245. Pease, Grey, New ..... ....30s. 316. Flour Town (per sack).- 545. 575. - Maple New Sl.. 345. - Seconds 50..545. - White 348 36s -....- North Country.... 48i. 508. -- Boilers 366.386 Bran BB 9s. SMITHFIELD. The supply was good, and the trade dull, at little, if any alteration in price from our former quotations. Beast, 2,454; Sheep and Lambs, 31,700 ; Pigs, 401 ; Calves, 220. Beef, 3s. to 4s. 6d. ; Mutton, 3s. 2d. to 4s. 6d. ; Veal, 3s. 4d. to 45.10 d.; Pork, 2s. 4d. to 4s. 6d. • Lamb, ss. to ss. 4d. TEA MARKET. All parties are waiting for the public sales on Wednesday next, which will contain 36,000 packages. The present price of Congou of low quality is Is Bd. to Is. 9d. per lb. cash. 'FALLOW MARKET. The price of Russian continues firm at 48.. on the spot, but the Market was in the same dull state as it has been for some time past. For future delivery, 49s to 495. 6d. was asked. PROVISION MARKET. The price of new Irish Butter was steadily maintained, and a fair business was done. The best Hams realised 925. to 96a. landed. Foreign Butter of good quality was much sought after, and Friers were very firm, 100,. to 102 s. for the best Friesland. Bacon very dull of sale, and prices declining, prime small, 48s. to bus, and inferior at 45.. to 475. per cwt. landed. Lard not much asked fur, and prices were unaltered. PRICE OF BREAD. '1 he highest Fries of -tread in the Metropolis is 954 d for the 41b. Loaf. Guid Bread may be had at 81. PRICES OF SEEDS. Per Cwt. I Per Quarter New English Kett Clover...6os 110 s St: Fein ..... . -s Css beg Old Litto Ditto -s 8-s Rye Grass -s .21 sBl s New Foreign Ditt0......-s 56s 788 1 Pacey Grass -s 6-6 Old Ditto Ditto -s -s -slLinseed, for feeding ...--s 50. 56s New White Clover 543 c.os 658 Ditto, for sowing .......-s Ot's 66s Old Ditto Ditto --s s --s Ditto, for crushi,:g ....-s 4fs 520 ' , v.? Treoil -s 25s 408 Hem;' I 461 s 524 Old Ditto Fr,folium -5 -s -11 Per Bushel. English Carraway -8 49s 508 White Mustard.....os Od to 13s , c 1 Foreign Ditto --6 46s 50. Brown Ditto 123 Od to Pis Ors Coriander -s 135 20sITares 4. Cd to NW PRICE JF OIL. Rape Oil, brown, per ton .....E•te 4. Ditto, refined Linseed Oil 32 10 Lins:ed Oil Cake at the Mill (per 1000) ll 0 Rape Cake, per ton ••• G 0 COMPROMISE COMMITTEE. SOUTHAMPTON. The Committee met this day at twelve o'clock, tit J. S. Wortley in the chair. Thomas Predist, Supervisor of Excise, was called, and he gave in a list of the public-houses and beer-shops in Southampton : the formeramounted to4B, the latter to 102. W. H. Mabson was then called and examined by Mr. BAKER.—Voted at the last election for Lord Bruce anti Mr. Marty n. Was not a Member of the finance com mittee. Did not know of any such committee. There was a fund in Maddison's b Ink, applicable to the purposes of the e'ection. He drew cheques himself, conjointly with Mr. Mackay and Mr. Ball. They might have amounted to between 4001. and 7001. Received the money for the cheques. Signed cheques for which he did not re ceive the money. He did so at the request of Mr. Mackay; has no account of the disposal of the money. He paid 100/. to Mr. Blanchard ; 100/. to Mr. Hunt ; 501. to Mr. S. Moodie, Chairman of the Con servative Association ; 521. to Skelton, for printing ; 301. to hillier, a publican ; 15L to a person called Vining ; 42/. to Burning, a publican ; 241. to two persons called Martin ; 101. or 15/. for flags, and 241. for making them; 71. or 8/. for cards and circu lars to Jefferson; 74/. to Lawrence, an innkeeper; 20/ to a person named Hoat, a printer. Signed two cheques for Mr. Cheeseman, one for 100/, and another for .1501.; they were at Mr Mackay's request ; signed a cheque with Mr. Ball for 751. The money given to Mr. Moodie was for the expenses of the liegistratien Courts. He got it as a loan. He never paid it. He did not give any receipt. He gave a cheque to a Captain Perklns. Thinks he gave the cheque to Perkins himself. Does not recollect giving any 'money to Lisle. He often gave him money. Never gave him 1001. Was in a room at the Dolphin two or three times. Does not know who engaged it. Was not there on the nomi nation day or the day of the election. Does not re collect signing a cheque for 4001. on the 13th of June. Saw Mr. Luce at the Dolphin the night before the no mination. Saw Lisle there. Did not see Wren there. Mr. Mackay, Mr. Flicker, Mr. Stebbing, and Mr. J. Bennett were there. They were arrauging fi s ts of the electors in the room up-stairs. The money he paid was for services done and for goods sold. With regard to a statement made by Mr. Wren, he begged to say that he did not belong to any bribery committee. To Lord BARRINGTON—KHOws there was bribery practised at the last election. Knows there was, be cause he had five or six persons in his own employment whom he could with difficulty keep from voting for the other party; they were tampered with, but he threatened to discharge them. Lord BARRINGTON—I hope you won't do that at the next election. Witness—l would not put niy threat into execution...... (A laugh.) John Johnson and Mr. Lancaster were next called with reference to the disappearance of the witness An drews, who was called and examined on Friday. John eon's evidence corroborated tl; statement made by Mr. Baker, that he was sent from Southampton to London to watch Andrews, and that a clerk from Mr. Croucher's office took him away. Mr. Cr ouc h er sa id th a t i n hi s a b sence a p ers on, called i Andrews, came and stated he wanted to see him. That he afterwards came, and merely wished to know who the other witnesses were, th it he might go to them. That aetory pro r was all he knew about the matter. akin.g gatisf Mr. Snme said it would be for the - consideration of THE MARCHIONESS 01' WATERFORD, JULY 9.-- the Committee whether the fact' would not be mentioned The Marchioness of Waterford is . in their Report. ' The fall was very severe, and the injury Inflicted of an alarming John Coulson was called, and stated that he and Mr. character HI the fi rst i ns tan ce; but, under judielous medical Hunt went to Wren to desire itim to go to Callan to symptom., have disappeared, and know if it was true that he was (ye'h Lad 11" ' complete recovery may new received the beuctlt of treatment, all the unfaveura tite; to France. It was er 1 P . be confidently not for the purpose of zettine. his vote. Did not call , lookedfor ina short time. upon, FelatiTe to Whitomulth's vote. He did not The lighting of Paris with gas is making great pro know any ',: 1 ; fig about \V !Mineral'. Mr. Wren told him . Ares& Within the last few weeks no fester that:tad streets, pas of la offor !1. - J iLd :Qt.. Air. liakt,r sa d t h e w h i„„., w , * sages, &r., in different quarters,bave this itaproyeinett. PRICE OF TALLOW, SOAP, &c. per 112113. Town Tallow £2 In o Melting Stuff— .e 1 14 0 Yellow Russia White ... u 0 0 Graves Soap Ditto 0 0 0 Good Dregs 0 5 0 PRICE OF RAW FAT, per stone of Mbs Peke of Tallow (as stated by the Tallow Melters) ss, 84. COAL MARKET. Sh fps arrived since last market .day, 30 d New Tanfield Moor 1.4 0 Old Tanfield l4 0 Ord's liedheugh l5 0 ranfield Moor e. lB 6 We.t:Wylam Wylam Wall, E. d Beale. e and Co lO 6 Walls End Heaton l9 3 Walls End Hilda l7 6 walla End Killingworth Walls End Wharocliffb W. E. Btaddyll'aHetton Walls End Hetton '2l 6 Wally End Lamhton ..... Walls End Morrison s. d. Walls End Shincliff lB 6 Walls End Stewat t's Walls End Whitwell l9 0 Walls End Hartlepool Walls End Haugh Hall Walls End Kelloe 2O 9 Walls End Adelaide ... 2O 0 Walls Et d Bowburn l6 9 Walls End Tees Hetton Walls Fa.d 'lee, ...... 19 9 Walls and West Hetton .... 17 3 Blythe.... ' ..".. . . ... .... , ...... 15 it Howard sNetherton * Alain 19 0 Soul h Elton ...... l6 0 iWelch Coal 2O 9 UNIVERSITY INTELLIGENCE. OXFORD, JULY 9.—This being the last cay of Trinity or Act Term, a Congregation was holden for granting degrees, when the following were conferred : DOCTORS IN DIVINITY, BY DECREE OF CONVOCATION.— The Rev. Thos. Parry, late Fellow of Balliol College, nomi nated to the Bishopric of Bat badoes ; the Rev. D. G. Davis, of Pembroke College, to the Bishopric of Antigua ; the Rev. W. P. Austin, of Exeter College, to the Bishopric of Guiana ; the Rev. F. R. Nixon, late fellow of St. John's College, to the Bishopric of Van Diemen's Land. MASTERS OF ARTS.—Rev. C. A, Fowler, of Oriel Col lege; Rev. J. A. Hamilton, of Balliol College ; J. Hall, of Brasennose College ; Rev. E. W.' Tuffnell, of Wadham Col lege ; Rev..). Cooper, ditto ; L. Evans, ditto. BACHELORS or A RTS. —Geo. C. Shiffner, of Christ Church ; I Richard Pratt, of Merton College ; William Lockhart, of Exeter College ; William Everett; New College. The Prebendal Stall of Cutton, founded in th e C as tl e o f Exeter, has bee n con f erred on the Hon. and Rev. C. L. Courtenay, of Christ Church. The Rev. F. J. Smith, of Balliol College, has been ap pointed Minister of Trinity Church, Taunton, Somerset. The Lord Chancellor has presented the Rev. Edward Stewart, of Oriel College, to the Vicarage of Sparsholt. Hampshire. V!, To Mr. BAKER—He might have told that before the late Committee if he had been examined. He had the Speaker's warrant framed.—(Great laughter.) Mr. Mackay was then called and examined. Was ae • tively engaged at the last election f„r Southampton ; it was not as a paid agent. Wren never conversed with him respecting the vote of Callan ; did not give him 10/. to pay Callan ; never gave him any money; never got an I 0 U, from Callan; did nut offer to put down Ed wards as a chairman; Wren never spoke to him at any time or place respecting a list of voters; did not before or after the election give Wren, or authorise to be given by him, any sum or sums of money. What is called the finance-room was taken for the purposes of arranging the lists of voters and making up the books; it was not for the purposes of any financial matters; he signed several of the cheques drawn for the purposes of the election. Mr. Mabson signed the principal cheques with him; he could speak generally, but not as to particular items; he paid money to Lisle for chairmen; an advertisement appeared in the papers desiring all bills to be sent in; he (witness) made up the several amounts, and as well as he recollects. the sum was between 2,700/. and 2,800/. That sum included old debts, money given to the Conservative Associations, and the different public-house and tavern bills. There was ..o finance committee ; one was appointed, but some of the persons refused to act. Cannot recollect that he ordered Lisle to employ chairmen ; might have done so. A day or two before ;he election he was in the room up stairs. Mr. Mabson and Mr. Fricker were there. Mr. Fricker was engaged making up the books. Mr. Mabson made a remark about his being too slow, and Mr. Fricker became offended. Some person came to the door and said that Mr. Wren wanted to speak to the committee ; he was not allowed to come into the room. He believes Mr. Mabson went out to give direc tions that he should be turned away. It was usual to have the landlord, or any other person who would be likely to influence a voter, set opposite his name in the canvass-book ; that would account for Abrahams' name being opposite Twyford's. It being announced ihat the Speaker was at prayers the Committee adjourned. LONDON, TUESDAY MORNING, JULY 12, 1842. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. time of the general election in 1812, when the party with which he (Lord B.) acted gained a great victory upon a ques- HO USE OF LORDS, July 11. tion of economy. Although the dissolution took place on that Their Lordships met at Five o'Clock. question, he believed that it did not turn a single vote, nor was WORKING IN MINES. the great commercial question mooted throughout the election, The Earl of LIVERPOOL presented a petition from except in the places for which he and Mr. Canning were candi iron masters and coal owners, against certain clauses in dates. lie assured n their Lordships that he was not sae who would e set the passions a d. h interests of themanufacturers against t , the Bill before Parliament respecting employment in farmers. The farmers and the peasants had ever been regarded mines and collieries, as the pride and the strength of this country.—( Hear, hear. ) The Earl of POWIS presented a petition to the same He was not one who despised their gains or their occupations, effect, signed not only by owners of mines but by persons on the contrary, he thought with the historian, " Pius qutestus, employed in them. et minime invidiosus—et minime male cogitentes, qui in eo Lord DARTMOUTH presented several petitions versantur." But there was another position of the people which to the same effect from persons employed in mines in the was no less and no more entitled to consideration and respect— West Riding of Yorkshire. The Noble Lord also pre- a body of men whose exertions contributed, to an extent worthy sented several petitions against the New Door Law-bill. of admiration, to raise that power to greatness and the wealth Lord CAMPBELL presented petitions from the neigh- h- of this country. He spok e o f th e mas t er manu f acturers . H e bourhood of Huddersfi e ld, i n favotu of the Bill for r had known them in all the ch a n ges o f th e i r f or t unes , an d h e gulating employment in mines. • knew amongst them very many men w h o wou ld d o h onour t o any station. He had unhappily k nown th em i n a ll t h e c h anges COLLIERIES AND MINES BILL. and vicissitudes of their fo r tu nes , an d h e could assure the The Duke of BUCCLEUCH reported from the House that he had known th em i n ti mes of distress Select Committee upon the Employment in Mines Bill, to make the greatest sacrifices in order to avoid the that it was the opinion of the Committee that the Bill hardship of turning their workmen out of employment• should be proceeded with.—(Hear, hear.) It was said that a change in the harvest would relieve the dis- The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered tress. He heartily wished that he could say that the distress to be committed to-morrow. was only caused by bad harvests. If they looked back to some The Bishop of NORWICH presented a petition in years up to 1829, 1830, and 1831, they would find that the favour of the Bill. price was 655. &l. being more rather than less than the present DRAINAGE (IRELAND) BILL. year. He did not mean to say, God f or bid, th a t a goo d h er - On the motion of L or d FITZGERALD , t hi s Bill was vest was immaterial, or that a bad harve s t grea tly exacer b a t e d the evils of the country. There were causes stated, both in read a second time, with the understanding that the dis- and out of Parliament, to which he aught to allude, as they cussion should be taken on Friday, in going into Cons- were highly important. It was said that machinery was one of mittee. the great causes of the distress. He did not think there ever The Dublin University Right of Voting Bill was read was, of the many delusions into which men were occasionally a second time. led, a greater than this. Machinery never could produce that SUDBURY WITNESSES INDEMNITY BILL. effect, unless fora moment—for a moment in point of time, and The Marquis of CLANRICARDE introduced a Bill in the smallest possible limit of space ; even if he admitted that, which he did n o t thi n k h e was ca ll e d upon to d o, even for any to indemnify the witnesses t o b e exam i ne d b e f ore t h e Committee on the Sudbury Disfranchisement Bill, which time, however small—within any space, however contracted—such was read a first time. He g ave no ti ce th a t, t o - morrow, mischief could not be produced by machinery. The slowness he would move that the Standing Orders be suspended well known to every one who had the least experience on the respecting this Bill, and that it be then read a second time. subject. Every new invention, however common, required time Lord BROUGHAM thought it was impossible their to introduce it. No one disputed this proposition, which he Lordships could pass a Bill of disfranchisement without did not hesitate to affirm was a general one. The labourers, taking evidence for themselves, in point of fact, suffered nothing. Let them consider the im- MINES AND COLLIERIES BILL. mediate consequences of machinery. Did it increase capital, The Duke of BUCCLEUCH presented numerous pc- and did not the increase in capital increase the want of titions on the subject of Lord Ashley's (the mining em- labour? Did not the increase in machinery increase ployment) Bill, from Yorkshire and Mid-Lothian. Some labour in the ancillary h. process, . contieete 7 d He with the .t re of . mac machinery . for a new Invention . ought_ of the petitioners disapproved of parts of the Bill, but manufacture almost to apologise for stating this proposition. Nor should the majority were in favour of it altogether. he have don e so but for the arguments used by per s o ns hi g h i n Lord WHARNCLIFFE presented petitions to the office, and used by persons out of doors. He might give as a same effect from places in Yorkshire, Scotland and Wales. further illustration of the slow degrees with which machinery THE DISTRESS OF THE COUNTRY. can be introduced, and could displace labour, what had occurred Lord WHARNCLIFFE presented a petition, which in the case of that most remarkable of all machineries—he was agreed to at a public meeting of the inhabitants of meant the cotton machinery. The first cotton machinery in- Leeds, held in the Town-hall on the 29th of June last, the vented was a cording-machine invented by a workman Mayor in the chair, complaining of the distress of the of the name of Hargreave, so long ago as the year 1760. country, and praying for inquiry. —(Loud cries of Hear, There was a rising of the working men against the employment hear, from Lord Stanhope.) of that machinery. Afterwards came, in the years 1769 and RAIL WAYS BILL. 1770, the further improvements of Arkivright ; and scarcely On the motion of the Earl of LIVERPOOL the Rail- ten years had elapsed before an increase to the amount of 50 per ways Bill passed through Committee. cent. had taken place in the cotton tr a de. D ur i ng th e next mittee. ten years, from 1780 to 1790, the incre ase was no l ess th an fi ve - RATING OF STOCK IN TRADE BILL. fold. The introduction of the newly-invented machinery was This Bill also passed through Committee without very gradual at first. Between the years 1800 and 1840 it amendment or discussion, had increased between eighty and one hundred fold ; and it CHANCERY COURT. employed seventeen times more hands in the year 1800 than The LORD CHANCELLOR laid upon the tabl e a when the manufacture had commenced. That increase Bill for abolishing certain offices in the Court of Chars- might be multiplied six-fold since the beginning of the eery ' the Bill related t o th e Si x Cl er k s , an d th e sworn present centu r y ; s o that th ere were one hundred hands Clerks. It was then read a fi rs t ti me . more employed now than had been employ e d previous to the DISTRESS OF THE COUNTRY. M rose and said, that the motion invention of Arkvrright ; and, without th a t i nven ti on , t h e Lord BROUGHA amount of goods manufactured would have employ e d 35,000,000 of people—a number which, of course, could never have beer, which he was th en a b ou t t o su b m i t t o their found. Let them see how the distress now told, and whether Lordships, originated, as they were aware, in it could at all be connected with machinery. He would take a petition which had been pesented some ten but a few simple illustrations. It would at once be admitted days ago, signed by the deputies, or at least by the that in the woollen trade much less machinery was employed chairman of the deputies, sent from the manufacturing , than in the co ton trade. Nevertheless, the town of Leeds, districts of the north of England. In the prayer of the centre of the woollen trade, was at this moment much wo rse that petition the men of the midland districts heartily off than the great capitals of the cotton manufacture. He found that the uninhabited houses in Leeds had increased 55 per joined. They had come to him, from a recollection of his old connexion both with the one and the cent., that the rents had ei been ei doubled, that . was . hto relief e re g c a e i i n ving of pa 2 r o is ()ot other of those districts—with the midland districts 04r0,00 relief f out f ro o m f 50 people, were aver e a r g ever since the year 1808, and still more in tiniately since the distresses of 1809 ; and in of those 40,000 was i b tt ti e t eosp 6 . d e : a week. In the town of Bolton where the cotton trade was carried on, although th ere h a d the northern districts, from his having had the hi,- been a decline of business. the same distresedid not prevail a, noun of representing them ' for a short period in the other at Leeds, and the rates, which afforded a pretty accurate test of House of Parliament. He had yielded to their request the condition of the people, had only increased from 12,000/. to with great reluctance. He should then proceed to per- 16,000/. ; whereas they had doubled in Leeds. Then if they form the promise which he had so reluctantly made, with looked to the hosiery trade they would find that in Hinckley a degree of unwillingness which one ought not per- half the frames were idle, and 70 pe n rrnt o . n of tthhierisivorkofmen theof haps to feel in discharging an important duty. But the i to . wn were unemployed , a nothing could be more embarrassing and more vexatious Population at a io a n in w t e h r e e receiving otterrade re , lief. In e- the hosiery machinery could hardly than to feel that he must disappoint those hopes of re- be said to enter at al)1. fy ardly any improvements had been dress and relief which they expected, if not at his hands, made in either, in the memory of living man. In the Potte at least through his endeavours, and nothing could be ries, the distress was not so great as in other districts, but it more painful than to have to state to their Lordships a was still greater than that which prevailed in the cotton dis ease so lamentable as theirs. They were men largely tricts. The rates in Nottingham had risen in the proportion of connected with the trade of the country, deeply inter- three to five, between the year 1841 and the year 1842; and ested in almost all the branches of its manufac- the number receiving relief had nearly doubled, being 8,000, tures ; .some of them were ministers of religion, instead of 4,400. In the Potteries, the calc u l a ti on was t h at who felt for th e di s t resses Of t h e fl oc k s comm i tted the average employment was but th:ee days in the week. Then, in the iron trade, smallerin willsichiinnthwtieieolaevmoetrothouanninttoratfodnme,taiilicehisirtnareetrsy: to their care, as did the other petitioners for the indivi duals who worked under them, and of whom they felt it Prevailed their duty to be the guardians. It must be as painful to i i ae n iyl c ee r :ll ea t s wo e as d a . o me T uac h c)r e hm ln u u u m s b ex er te o ut t a p n ersons in the workhouse p was ties Lordships to hear the statement which those par- doubled, and the persons who received out-door relief were ties expected him to make, as it was for him to make it. trebled. In Sheffield, the worst case of the whole, the rates He should therefore take them as swiftly as he could over had risen, between 1839 and 1842, in the frightful proportion the ground; and he might the more easily do that and of eight to one, being an increase from 5411. to 4,2531. Thus dispense with the necessity of entering at length into their Lordships would see from fact, what they might expect those afflicting details, as unhappily it was no i from reason, that there was no connexion between machinery and matter of controversy whether such distress existed or ! the present distress. On the contrary, were it not for machinery, not ; for all who knew the state of the country, and none , the traders would not only have been reduced to a state of misery,av have compared nam w e ith hut w e h v ic e h n e a ven v a t t he m p e re e se rt n i t nn w e o f uld th r n o e t he believed more than his Noble Friend opposite, were I prepared at once to allow that this distress was wholly ; deserved a ti e trades would not have been called into ge exigence.—( )p Hear. ‘ ) without a parallel. He, like those petitioners, or at least . fou nd the distress was attributed to the currency. B ch if he the oldest among them, remembered the distress f oun d it could not be attributed to the seasons, the machinery, of 1408, and of 1812, and afterwards of 1816 and ! o r anything in the internal state of the country, he held it. to 1817 ; but he protested that when he cast back his ; be perfectly wild to ascribe it to the currency—( Hear, hear)— . eyes, and compared those periods with the pre- inasmuch as the change in the currency had taken place twenty ' sent ; and when he refreshed his recollection with ' three years ago, during a portion of which time the country the result of the inquiry then made, and corn- enjoyed great prosperity. It was as impossible—he might say pared it with what it had been his most p a i n f u l it was snore impossible—to ascribe the distress of the country ditty to learn, within the last three or tour weeks, , to the change of currency than to the course of the seasons. of the present s t a t e o f thi ngs, h e m i g h t almost (" Hear, hear," from Lord Stanhope.) During the last ten without exaggeration say, that those times presented a ; r i e a a d rs a , five had been such as that no class of the community to complain. If none of those causes could b comparatively prosperous state of things. He would forei n rightsingled out, they ought then to look to their keep the promise he had given of passing over the ground trade, in order to obtain an explanation.—( Hear, hew!) as quickly as he could, and he would begin at once to It ought to be recollected, that the manufaiitures to which he state the case. In the west of England for years past, alluded were not confined to this country. They had compe he might say for ten .or twelve years past, there titors elsewhere during the whole time of the increase of their had been a gradual change—gradual at first, own manufactures. He would take an instance from the cotton as always happened in such cases, but proceeding ' trade. While it was increasing in this country it was also on afterwards with an accelerated pace to the almost ex- the increase in France. h Between 1787 arid 1815 it had in tinction of this branch of their manufactures—looms . c!ease d d in se t v h e e n Forreneeit cotton t fold, tradeand borethe number a still—houses untenanted—rents falling from one-third to !" tin o n ye to the number of those employed here,considerable onp:ogr one-half, sometimes even more —cottages to the number of the number. There were 1,500,000 persons being depende - nt on of three out of four untenanted, and every appearance the cotton trade in this country, and 600,000 persons dependent of a transfer of our former flourishing manufactures from 'on the trade in France. The exports since the peace, up to Gloucestershire, Wiltshire, and other parts. It had been t wo or three years ago, were seven times as much hoped that that was a mere transfer, and that what in value as during the same number of years pre these counties had lost the north had gained ; ' vious to the peace. During the same period their but it did so happen that, coeval with the decline cif own trade had increased from 22,000,000/. to 52,000,000 t. the manufactures in the west, had been the commence- He bad, therefore, no fear for foreign competition, provided ment of the distress which now laic ed the north. the capital and skill of the country in foreign markets was ai- Then, when they went to the Midland Counties, to lowed t h o e h i a n v d e nst f r air of pl i a h y. But when he sawthem h anner in Leicestershire, to Shropshire, to Staffordshire, to which the fear. lie was country was cramped, at he had every what the cause for . _ _ . ready to show w petitioner-, Warwickshire, and carried the eye to Lancashire and only desired to prove by evidence, and if their Lordships refused Yorkshire, the state of distress was almost the same as to receive it, the fault would lie with them and not with him. in those counties where the woollen manufacture was in Th e petitioners would first show in what way the present re existence—houses untenanted, rents fallen, industrious, strictions on foreign trade arose, from the restrictions on foreign able-bodied, healthy—at least at one time in health— corn. They were then prepared to show that at the present skilful as men could be, both willing and able moment purchases were making for various countries at most to work, and only desirous for hardly a pittance I reduced rates of most valuable machinery for the purpose of to support them, thrown out of employment by exportation. That there h were agents from France and Bel thousands, and those thousands receiving only such a gi um making thosep e u o r s c t, a a s n e c s i , that engines had fetched only one. pittance that it could hardly be believed how life was third r e o i, r f countries prime had not in e s e o n m e e districtsw remainedh er e t h e o a n g s e o r l i d t s sustained.—(Hear, hear.) Wages were down to a ld., They were then prepared to show that in foreign countries the poor'e-rate was increased—in some places double, in manufactures had arisen that had never before been thought other places three-fold and four-fold, and even eight-feld. of; and they were also prepared to show that there were reso , And in some districts there was a defalcation in property, lotions adopted by some of the most skilful artisans to emigrate. 20 or 30 or 40 per cent. more than it was two years ago. It was well known by the experience of all times, that in all When he came to the details, with which he was almost such cases, the first to emigrate were the inferior workmen, and afraid to deal, from th e general statement over which he that the best hands were always the last—except, perhaps the was running, not goi n g, th e y were perfectly frightful, capitalists themselves.—(Hear, hear.) That was the class Thousands of persons were without food for days, he which was r arely known to emigrate.—( Hear, hear.) Yet, could not say a day, without a morsel to eat.—(Hear, there was a large number o f capitalists who were now prepa r i ng hear.) In s ome cases th e peop l e were una bl e to leave to emigrate, and could only e which they pros —or, by the hope that their their beds of straw, thinking they would be the better able h eor t d he l: hau would listen to their prayr, and that their case would on that account to stifle the pangs of hunger. They be inquired into.—( Hear hear .) He could mention persons lived on what ought not b e eat en by men, and actually that employed upwards of a thousand workmen— envied the husks to swine. Clergymen and medical for obvious reasons he could not state who they were mess gave the same testimony as to the insuffi- nor even in what part of the country they were—who could ciency of the food ; but he must say that in the midst not be turned from accomplishing their design of leaving the of those scenes, the kindliest dispositions were evinced country, except by the change to which he alluded. He knew by persons but a little removed from those whom they one man who had 200,000/. worth of goods locked up in his attempted to relieve.—(blear, hear.) In one case, a warehouse, which he could not sell without a heavy loss, but he a omen famishing with her infant found shelter in a mi- was preparing to do so, and to make a sacrifice of two-thirds serable cellar, and in three hours after herinfant died actu- of his property, w ith a v i ew to i nvest it i n anot h er country, a itat with safety and profit, in ally from want o f b e i ng a bl e to find sufficient nutriment. where he could e m pl o y hi s c ' e • • • consequence of the ab sence o f those restrictions which In another case, a man who had been without work were the ruin of his trade here. Such cases were cer fifteen or sixteen Necks, obtained employment, and tainly of the rarer kind, but he was prepared to prove worked 10 hopes without food, but he was obliged that there were a great number of persons with capital of to give up, he came back to his house, flung himself on a less amount who could only be turned from their determi bench, and his wife burst into tears, knowing he had not nation to emigrate by the relief for which they prayed. Now, tasted any food that day. But some kind person gave it might be said, that if the change which they required were them a little money, and he thanked him, and said it was effected, that the distress would be the same. But those per a sorry sight to see the poor in that state, and sons were in to show , in f:o nl m eri t o h a e t t a t t te t r i s ie of d. their corre l - wished that he might never know what hunger was. These a si t son one n e ts e i e n as G e Germany and They w ould show that they would receive ss r, w .e r iv ,d e things quite unmanned one, and were excruciatingly orders sufficient for their ample employment the instant the painful.—(Hear, hear.) But it was cheering to know that change was made; nay, the instant their Lordships indicated a in the midst of thie distress the people exhibited the greatest willingness to give the matter a fair consideration. The menu patience, and did not violat e the law of facturers were obliged to dismiss their men. He had heard their country—(Cries of ~ Hear, hear")—and that all that in a place in Yorkshire, at a manufactory, the men were attempts of ill-meanin g or no-meaning persons have asked which they would rather do, work five days in the week proved ineffectual to turn them from their duty to at the usual wages, by half the men being kept. only, their country, to their families, and to themselves, or whether they would rather work half the week Who were those persons, of whose sufferings he had for the whole of the number being employed. spoken ? They were no more nor less than the work- They unanimously preferred the latter. He could not conceive ing classes at large of the country. I t was anything more creditable or more honourable t to from 2s. the working classes and their cause that the people—( Hear, hear )—reducedits he, w.e of m is. a day to Is. He wished to remind their Lordships .. the effect . of petitioners submitted to the consideration of their Lord- . - In America, in the ships ; the working classes, to whom the country owed Northern States there were no protective duties. In the everything, and who had raised the commercial Western State a s t w es hieh w ere equally divided between the Southern greatness of the country to its present stupendous height. and Northern States, they were inclining to the protective duties. In Isis opinion the patience and tranquillity of the work- The Western States finding that the Northern States were ing classes ought to work powerfully on their Lord- supported by our example, would turn the scale in the ships ; and added to this, it most be remembered, that Assembly in favour of the protective and prohibitory duties. the working classes had no hand in making the This encouraged smuggling on their coast, as it was al mos t im laws by which they were governed.—(H ear , h ear.) possible to prevent it with such an extensive frontier. Our The millions did not contribute a single vote in the i T e md sm s we 7 d ea l s i i e ly smuggled in r to oh A ih n i i t e o r r ica, du b t l i i e t s c w o e rn c r o e u v l e d n n ie e d t choice of the men by whom their laws were them from sending the y only u p commodit; they had to sell. It made. Upwards of five millions were entirely excluded was the same error which this country had fallen into at the from any share in the representation ; such being time of the Orders in Council, which orders went to enforce the case, if their Lerdships were riot their the Berlin and the Milan decrees, which would have been a actual representatives, which they undoubtedly dead letter but for those orders, from which they received a were as much as any Member of the other most triumphant and a most mischievous efficacy. They Ilouse of Parliament—(Heat', hear)—he must intreat were doing th e same thing now America with L t , e i o n t e. the f of them to be their a c t ua l p ro t ec t ors .—(H ear , hear.) h e American factual much a as trde. Thepresent ofßonaparte, had not England laws of would not say a word th a t wou ld wear th e appearance of fra a stepped in w ith thet the decreesresourees of her revenue department for party, because the present was no party question. the purpose of enabling the American Government to give A question of this sort did not naturally lend itself to party. what they call protection—aldiough he thought that. was an No man could ever dream of 'forming a party in this country abuse of the word pro doubt favour of their own trade. upon what might be called economic grounds— en questions But there could be no doubt but that if England were ready to respecting trade and revenue. But he could not say how far exchange her manufactures for the grain of the United States, distant might be the day w h en t h e p „ p l, wou ld understand the Western States would join the Southern States against the economical questions as well as they understood those great protecting States of the North. But the evil of the present constitutional questions upon which alone party could be formed system was not confined to our trade w i t h A mer i ca. A letter at present iii England. Whenev er th e ti me did come it might which had b een wr i tten b y the Prussian Minister, in the yea r be possible to find some principle of economy on w hi c h i t would 1 1824, to the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs in this coup. be possible that a party could b e bou n d together. I try at that time, stated in express terms that if an arrangement Perhaps it might not be so difficult to fetus such , were toad e for the importation . of tho corn, the timber, and the a party Row, although be thought it was, is at the i other articles of Prussisn pt educe into this ..ountey tome liberal most desirable. But he bite e v e d awe that tlie require.' invest terms, a tariff would be araiwally arranged between Prussia and tigat'etl vaned en , be so cosenteted, but tea it wet t er put eff Great Britain. He also understood that. Mr. Addington, from the application di' arty remedy for years, male revolution would America, had made a similar communication afterwards; but take place in the meeeltittte. Nu reduction of the price of unfortunately neither the ti nor the other was favourably re- bread would be any relief td flute un happy persons, wwhose s e ceived by the G overnments o f those peeitidei hid heard of welfare was as dear to him as it cou ld, b e hi Noble one remedy for th e ex i st i ng di stress, to wh i c h he thatight Learned Friend. The Noble Lord coecled o ed by saying that right to advert before he sat down, for the purpose of entering he eelitirl rent etipport the motion. against it his solemn protestation: If their Lordships would Lord 1(114.P WIRD tegretted the determination of the Govern grant him a Committ ee , f or w hi c h h e asked, h e could of course ment to refuse the Italie re: He knest the petitioners, and he could have no objecti on t o h ear any matter relating to the sub- say that it was not their sole theetiee tO epee the Corn-laws. ject discussed, a n d ev id ence upon every po i nt a d duced, Rut he thought that those who attribtited that motive to t hem He should be prepared, for instance, to enter with his Noble ably feared that the removal of those laws would he the inevit- Friend at the table (Earl Stanhope) into the currency ques- able result of a thorough inquiry into the causes of the' diefteeees tion, or into the nature of machinery. He had not the least He was disposed to epee with the Noble Earl (Stanhope) doubt that his Noble Friend, if the Committee were granted, . that if matters were allowed WI go on as they were, the cone'. would be disposed to enter into both the one and the other. quences would be such as the Noble Earl apprehended. It Earl STANHOPE—And into the protection to labour. ' was not only the manufacturing towns, but also the commer c ial Lord BROUGHAM—And welcome.—( A laugh.) And towns. in which the distress was intolerable. The Noble Lord into what my Noble Friend calls the protection to labour. then read extracts from a letter from Liverpool, to show the Whether he means to carry his protection further than only extent of the distress amongst the traders and artisans destroy spinning machinery and cotton mills—whether he of that. important town, especially those connected with the means to carry it to tee extent of destroying all furnaces or shipping interest. In the manufacturing districts the distress steam-engines connected with furnaces, which, without machi- was greater. In the cotton trade there was complete stagna nery, would be incapable of being worked—whether he means tion, owing to the competition of foreign manufac to extend it to the exclusion of horse-power in these various turers, which we ourselves had raised by our protective system. employments; the effect of that exclusion being not merely to By our Corn-laws a stop was put to that interchange of corn prevent the emeloyment of horse-power, but the employment modifies which might otherivise take place between this; country of the men engaged in working it, and to extinguish the and foreign nations. It appeared from a statement made by capital. which it created, and which could only be employed in sJr. Addington, that if American corn were allowed to be im enlarging the field of industry. Whether that was the mean- ported into this country, the American tariff would never have in; of his Noble Friend, or wheth e r h e mean t t o go f urt h er, to passe d ; and even as it was, that tariff had been sanctioned by a the uttermost pitch of consistency, in order to protect labour, majority of only three in Congress. Of late years our exports and to prohibit the employment of tools also—(Laughter)— of manufactures to America had been paid for in fictitious because just in proportion as tools were diminished the hand paper ; but the fact that those exportations had taken place was made more powerful—whether his Noble Friend meant to proved that America afforded a market for our goods; and all push his theory to that extreme point of absolute consistency or that was wanted to place the trade between the two countries not, he (Lord. Brougham) could not conjecture.—(Laughter.) on a mutually advantageous basis was, that we should allow He had no objection that this point should be included in the them to pay us in their agricultural produce for our manutaa inquiry. Even he had no objection that the sugar question tured articles. The result of our present system was, that we should be referred to it, though he was one of those who were raising America into a manufacturing country. He be thought that they would rather be discussing the question, lieved that if we were to impose a 6s. fixed duty upon foreign whether crime should be encouraged or trade protected— grain, the corn of the United States could not be imported here whether a bounty were to be given to Cuba and the Brazils, and sold under 455. or eos. ; and the farmers of this country for the purpose of stimulating the slave-trad e . Bu t re gar di ng , nee d, t h ere f ore , h ave very little to apprehend from the adop as he did, every pound of sugar which came from those places two of such a proposal. He cordially supported the motien then as defiled with crime and steeped in African blood, and willing before the House. to show how far he was ready to go for inquiry, he had no ob- . The Marquis of CL A N RICA RDE contended that the jection even to that question being referred to the Committee. Noble Earl opposite (the Earl of Ripon) had furnished no A proposition was made for the purpose of making the Legis- answer to the powerful arguments of his Noble and Learned lature yield on this subject, which he considered to be fraught Friend ( Lord Broughsm). The only reason why our trade with incalculable mischief and unspeakable injury—he meant had declined was, that foreign nations were unwilling or unable any attempt, by what were called non consumption agree- . to pay tor our manufactures, while we excluded them agri nients to embarrass the Government. He considered any at- cultural proiluce. There collet he no doubt but that the tempts of this kind as tending directly and immediately to ex- couetry was now plunged in the deepest distress ; and if the aeperate the mischief under which the country was at present suf- Government refused the inquiry new proposed, it was their fering. It was at least satisfactory to know that in the midst . duty to tell the House what they intended ro do for the purpose of their distresses credit. had been preserved. Many attempts of meeting the threatening evils of the coming einem.. the of this kind were made to prevent the Government going on . Government had passed the tariff; but no one believed that peacefully and steadily. Those who made them, however that measure would relieve, at feast fur some time, the de good their views might be, would be the first to repent dining trade of the country. They had now no re her mea of them. Before sitting down, he would ask what objection sure before Parliament but the Poor-law—a law of which he could there be to such an inquiry? Even if it were not poi- approved in its main details, but which offered .so resource for sible that anything could be done—if not the shadow of a shade the wide-spread distress which prevailed throughout the land. of a chance remained of being able to do anything to abate it— The conduct of the.people under their distresses had been sur even if they were resolved to deny them relief—still the in- prising. but they must nut press upon them too much. The quiry ought to be made, the representations of the eeople present state of things could not be kept up; something must ought to be heard. Those who said that there should be no be done for the people; they had now arrived at a state of change in the Corn-laws, he thought committed a great mis- things when they must submit to inconvenience, or something take. A new Corn-Bill had lately been passed. It had been worse.—( Hear, hear.) He cordially concurred with the mo in operation about eight weeks. Was it not right to examine its tion, and would support it unless some Member of her Majesty's in operation? When this Bill passed, there were two different Government anneuneed his intention of bringing forward opinions expressed upon it. One was, that it was better than some effectual remedy for the distress that existed in the the former law; another was, that it was as bad as the former country. law; and another opinion was, that it was worse. Viscount MELBOURNE had never heard a more temperate He (Lord Brougham) held the first opinion. but he speech from the Noble Lord who had introduced the present thought a great deal more of it than he did, as they thought it motion. Every one must have been convinced by it of the was all that was wanted. Now, here were four different distress that existed in the country ; but what alarmed him was opinions. He said at first there were only two. Wa s it not the long cont nuance of the distress, and the patience with expedient to inquire which was - right ?It was not. enough to which the people bore it. He thought Parliament ought not say that they were at the close of the session.—( Hear, hear.) to delay finding a remedy for the distress that existed. He had That would not do in times like these.—( Cheers.) It they considered the subject most fully, but he did not think it could sit all last summer because of an expected change in the would be wise to appoint the Committee that had been pro- Alinistry—if they could sit till September because of a political posed. What they had to consider was, whether the course change in August, that was a question respecting the balance of ',rep ose d to b e a d opte d was w i se or not, or was one likely to parties, and not respecting th e i n t eres t s ofthe people. It was . produce any good. If the House had distrust in the Govern now not, only the interest of the people, but the well-being of mein, it might be well to appoint a Committee, but if it had the people ; and not only the well-being, but the positive sub- ' not, he did not see the utility of it. He believed if ever sistence of the people. Wi n t er was com i ng wi th her sable there was a question in whice ample inquiry had taken wings and long nights, and the distress would be overpowering. place, it was the Corn-laws. A Bill had already —( Hear, hear.) The remaining three or four weeks in Par- passed both Houses on the subject in the course of the present liament under such circumstances ought to he matter of the session. He did not think that Bill a good one, butt still it had most complete indifference in a rational point of view. He been adopted by Parliament ; and it was impossible to deny was really ashamed tosteop to enter into such an argument. He that there was a great deal of danger and evil in repeated had undertaken to bring this subject .before their Lordships change. He believed that the apprehension of change and most reluctantly. He had done so that he might. ' fluctuation would do more evil and prevent more good than the not be answerable to his conscience. He had done so with the ' maintenance of the present law, even if all the evils charged fear, he admitted, with the apprehension, that he should fail in ' upon it were true. He did not think, with some Noble . Lords, obtaining the assent of their Lordships to his proposition ; and ' that the evils under which the country was labouring were he had done so, running the risk that if he did obtain their Lord- mainly attributable to the Corn-laws. Believing that the ap ships' consent, the inquiry might by possibility prove fruitless. pointment of the proposed Committee would be attended with But still he felt that in the ensuing winter the distress would be no good, but with evil, be could not give his vote for the motion great, thatduring that hard season—harder than ever for those of his Noble Friend. who were more destitute than ever—that during that hard Earl RADNOR would vote for the motion of . the Noble season the suffering of the people would be greater than hereto- Lord, believing the course he had pointed oat was the only fore; and therefore happen what may, he had at least discharged one to pursue.—( Hear, hear.) The state of the country was his duty, arid freed himself from a great responsibility, that • calamitous in the extreme ; every day they were getting though he might deplore, as he most deeply did deplore, the worse, and it therefore behoved Parliament to do something. suffering of the people, at least he was not answerable to his -Nene of the measures that had been introduces! by the Govern conscience ; and he hoped to God that their Lordships would ment had done any good—neither the Corn-law, the Income take the same means of relieving themselves from the same re- ; tax, nor the Tariff. As to the Tariff, of which so much had sponsibility.—(Cheers. ) The Noble and Learned Lord con- been said, he believed that, instead of good, evil would arise eluded by moving that the petitions be referred tea Select Cern- from it. In • this state of things, was Parliament to do raittee of the same nature as that appointed in 1832, to inquire nothing ?—( Hear, hear.) He. thought the course pursued into the distress then existing in the agricultural districts. by his Noble Friend would be prodUctive of great The Earl of RIPON was certainly not at all surprised that ' good, and he should, therefore, give it his hearty support. his..,Noble and Learned Friend had brought himself to submit The expectation of a revival of traee had failed altogether. It the proposition with which he had concluded, to their Lord- was expected that the spring trade would be brisk, but they ships, with very great reluctance, and that he had .hesitated had now got into the middle of summer and 'no change had before he would permit himself to do so. He was quite sure, taken place ; on the contrary. the distress was getting greater from his Noble and Learned Friend's extensive knowledge of and greater every day The Noble Earl said that this was not the matter he submitted, awl from his long experience in all attributable to the Corn-laws. But these foolish manufacturers, matters of Parliamentary proceedings, he was quite sure that as they were called, had informed his " foolish" Noble and that reluctance was founded on very grave doubts in his own Learned Friend that they had evidence that su•h was the case. mind as to his being successful in inducing their Lordships to How, then, co u ld they refuse them an inquiry ? Ire 1e26 dis concur in the proposition, and, if so, to its bringing about any tress existed in the country. and a Bill was passed empowering satisfactory result. The object. of the inquiry appeared to be the Council, in case the distress. continued after the prorogation to repeal the Corn-laws. 'I hat was the sum and substance of of Parliament, to admit foreign corn in hoed free for home what his Noble and Learned Friend wanted. This the petition, consumption. Mr. Carmine, on that occasion, read a letter to and those it represented, seemed to consider the panacea the Eouse of Commons which he had reeeive I Iran Liverpool, for all the evils under which the country laboured. He ( the le which it was stated that when the news arrived in Liverpool Earl of Ripon) feit some difficulty in being called upon to wont such a measure was passed, cotton rose sd. a pound, and discuss this subject again. Twice in the present session there were no sellers. The markets beeame at once brisk.— had this been a subject of great discussion. In that ( Cheers.) It was w.ll known that distrese was so grew that debate the Corn-laws were fully discussed as 10 people were dying from starvation. Under these circumstances their being the causes of the distress. If the Owe- he, for one, should support the motion.—( Hear, hear. ) laws were repealed it would be unkind to the people, be- Lord WHARNCLIFFE said that when they talked of re cause they would hope that the repeal of the Corn-laws would pealing the Corn-laws they must recollect that there were be a relief to the distress of the country, and their hopes would other interests to be considered besides the manufacturing. be delusive. lie thought it would be better to abs:ain from If they repealed the Corn-laws, and it gave no relief to the .sit inquiry, unless they could ascertain that the result would manufacturing districts, the present distress wooed be much answer the expectation of those who proposed it. His Noble aggravated by the distress which the repeal of the Corn-laws Friend said that the real cause of all the distress was the em- would cause to the agricultural labour. With respect to the barrassment in commerce arising out of the restrictions which new Corn Bill, he thought that a period of eight_ weeks was not the Corn-laws imposed. Now they must consider the nature long enough to prove the Bill. If they were to show a dis of the embarrassments which these restrictions caused. It position to repeal a law which they had passed only eight weeks certainly could not be that we do not take the surplus corn of before, they would be considerably augmenting the distress the countries on the Continent, because, in point of fact, instead of relieving it. during the last ten years there had been entered for lewd BROUGH AM replied. He did not mean to impute home consumption, and consumed, all the surplus produce of the thick-heededness and stupidity to the agric Iturists as Lord J. exporting countries of Europe, with the exception of. that pors Russell had dime He (Lord B.) had not at all been shaken by tion which was required for the wants o f o th er importing what had been said by the Noble Earl and the Noble Viscount. countries. During four years of that time, so good had been the It was said that this metion was directed against the Corn harvests here, that had there been no Corn-laws at all those har- laws alone. This he denied. If it were admitted that the vests would have been sufficient protection. With respec' to ma- distress was not caused by a bail system, legislative and com nufactures, France took an immense amount of our manufactures; mercial, then they might say that that motion was against the therefore how could the Corn-laws cause a diminution in the Corn-laws alone.—(Cheers.) He approved of the change, as trade there ,when they had a Corn-law for the protecton of their it was called, which had been made in what was called the own agriculture? So with Belgium and Russia. Was it tope sup- tariff, and he only wished it went further. For the reason that p sed that if we said to Russia, we will repeal our Corn-laws if he would repeal the Corn-lases he would also repeal other re you will repeal your prohibitory duties, that they would repeal strictions upon articles which cramped the trade of the country. those duties, considering the expense they had incurred in fos- —( Hear, hear.) Therefore, he denied that the debate was on tering their own manufactures i n R uss i a ?We t oo k from the Corn-laws, and he denied that the in 'wry was upon the Russia six or seven times the amount more than Russia eon- Corn-laws. Contrary to what had been stated by Noble Lords, descended to take from us. Ther e f ore , t o re p ea l the Corn-laws that inquiry would teed to tranquillise the public mind. Could appeared to him (the Earl of Ripen) t o b e th e most fallacious Nohe Lords think that no b nefit would result from an inquiry speculation that was ever entered into. Thi s was t h e o nly in- inter tire distress, when the distress was admitted? There was ference he could draw from facts which would come nut. before no doubt as to the distress, they only differed as to the cause. the Committee, if appointed. Russia herself protected her own He rather agreed with those who did not ascribe the distress corn, and imposed a duty of 13s. on corn. The seasons there wholly to the Corn-laws. They must look to other causes. were extremely bad for some years. That was an additional This was an opinion generally held by the representatives of reason for supposing that there would be no use in-repealing the people, and more generally held by the constituencies. their Corn-law. Again, with respect to Prussia. Thet Go- If their Lordships, after dispassionate inquiry, after looking vernment expressed their opinion that the recent Corn-law of before, behind, and around, found that the Corn-laws were this country would produce a more steady trade. There was - not the cause of the distress, then a great benefit would be con no likelihood that though they should alter their policy, the ferret by that alone upon the country.—( Hear.) But that German League woule also alter their commercial policy. the iequiry should be opposed on the grounds alleged, was to Then his Noble Friend alluded to Am er i ca . Now, during the him utterly and entirely incomprehensible. Then with regard Corn-law they had a very flourishing trade with America, and to the effect of the seasens upon the production of the distress; although a change took place, that was in consequence of the if, as Noble Lords opposite contended, the distress was occa monetary derangements of America. There never was a time in sioned by bad seasons, or, as he believed, had nothing t o d o which the manufacturing population of America were more with it, the determination of the question must be productive urgent in pressing on the Government the necessity of protec- jof the greatest advantage.—( Hear, hear.) If it were shown lion, and this was in consequ ence o f th e cheap labour of the that Providence had afflicted them with those evils, and not old European States. But they did not do so in consequence their own legislation, nothing would tend more to pacify and of this Corn-law. He did not know wheth er the American tranquiliseohe country. He would beg to remind their Lord- Government would accede to those d eman d s . m an y persons ships before they came to a vote, of what he had stated before, thought they would not ;at all events, it would not be in con- that he must be a bold man who would affirm sequence of their Corn-laws.—( Hear, h ear .) Hi s Noble that no documents or no witnesses whom they might Friend alluded to other points, which he did not think neees- examine could throw any light upon the subject. But nary to refer to the Committee, but he did not see how they ihe was told that this would be a partial inquiry. If he had not could abstain from going into them. He did not see how said enough that evening tc show that there was no prejudice they could avoid inquiry into the question of the cure on his side—that he was ready to hear the whole evidence, rency. if the inquiry were given, how could the even whatever might be produced with regard to the currency Noble Lord come to a decision, in the short time and over-productien itself—if he had not shown himself of he thought it necessary for inquiry ? Both sides must be heard, i equal mind on all subjects, and ready to undertake Inquiry a, and one class would be arrayed against another, which he : judicially as if he were sitting on the Bench administer-leg jus thought would be peculiarly unfortunate at this time. He had rice instead of in a Committee of Inquiry in that House. then he a high opinion of the good sense of the people of this country, should in vain hope by any asseverations on his part to alter and he did not think they would ascribe to any other cause the ! their Lordships' opinion, or change their expectation of refusal of their Lordships to grant this inquiry than that. it i the manner in which the inquiry ought to be conducted,—(Hear.) Would not have the effect anticipated from it.—(Hear, hear.) They had periods of distress before. They had periods of Earl STANHOPE agreed with the Noble and Learned age icultural distress, and what was done ? Why, inquiry, in the Lord opposite in the extent of the distress, and he believed if very words he used in his motion, was granted in 1822. and it an immediate relief was not afforded anarchy would be the was rio t done to embarrass the Government. It was impossible result. The distress of the country was alluded to in the that l an d s h o uld escape the pressure of distress if trade was speech from the throne, and yet the first measure proposed was a ff ecte e. Th e y had a reciprocal influence one on the other, a diminution of the protection given to the home grower of and he believed if an inquiry was granted, it would do more corn. Then came the Income-tax, which must diminish the than anything to tranquillise the fears of :h.' agriculturists. As fund out of which labour was paid ; anti then the tariff, which an instance, he would adduce the new tariff. He knew coup way objectionable en every point. He would now come to the ties himself in which no cattle sales could be effected. Fat arguments of his Noblf , arid Learned Friend with respect to earths were advertised st 3e. and 4d. a pound, arid great ap machinery ; and here, be - must say, he wish e d be could put out j prehension was the eensequence, - But now lie be laved there of his recollection the manner in which the Noble Lord spoke nun net seinenn a vestige of alarm in any part of the (toi l etry on of the agriculturists, as a lazy, idle body, w h e n introducing the subject. Why? Because the parties inquired, and the New Posir.law—that cruel measure. What was said ot j they bound that their tears were without f Jut:dation. Dr. Johnson in that bad Latin inscribed upon his monument in i so he believed it would be ev ith regard to the Westminster Abbey might be applied is his Noble and Learned I Corn-laws. —( [leer, hear. ) H e noted met now enter Friend, for he was into the sulejett of machinery, to which his Noble Friend (Lord " Magister verhorum gravissimus."—( Laughter.) Statthope ) alluded. But it that were the cause of the diet ress. Now he ( Lord St an h o p e ) had rese „ te e re no wn from the and found to be so by the inquiry, then there was an end put to artisans themselves complaining of the increase ot machinery, the agitation of the Corti-laws.—( Hear, hear. ) He feared that and tere coat be no d übt that it threw many of them out he had already exhausted th eir Lordships' patience, as well as out t h em pioyment. And in those cases he thought the people his own strength, on this important subject. He had never had aright to protection from those by whose means they suf- doubted of the entire revival of our trade, if that trade were fered. If his Noble and Learned Friend had l i ved amongst relieved from the restraints with which our own laws shackled the labouring-classes as much as he did, he would understand it ; and his prayer was that their Lordships would interpose to what was meant by protection of labour. A woollen manuftc- save it from entire ruin.— (Cheers. turer in the West Riding of York—who was one of th at party The House then d.vided. The numbers were— nearly extinct, the old Tories, whom he should ever reset e t_ 1 or the motion ( A laugh)—told him, that unless Parliament did something Against it ...... ...... 61 to protect, the wages of labour, the country would be Majority against the mes o n — 47 ruined.—( A laugh.) The real caus e o f t h e d i stress of the manufacturers was their own ra p ac i ty, b y which they ground Lordships thee adjourned. down the labourers to the starvation point, and then lowered their own pieces by over-production. The manufacturers re minded him of Alexander, who wept because he ;rad no mote worlds to conquer.---(A laugh.) They would clothe the whole human race, and then weep that they had no mere worlds to clothe. —( Laughter.) The effect of repealing. the Corn-laws would be to deprive them of the home market, which was the most valuable to themselves,—('f ur y cheers.) One other effect would be to encourage smuggling—the smuggling of cotton goods into America, and he would oppose that as he had opposed the smuggling of opium into China.--(A laugh. The Noble Lord at the head of the Government in that House had said that the distress was occasioned by several causes, operating s i mu lt aneous l y and conjunctively, s and he agreed as to two of them—the increase of machinery arid the introduction of agricultural labourers into the manufacturing districts. The hatter could be remedied by restoring the agricultural labourers to their natural employment arid repeal ing the New Poor-law, which hid driven them from it. He, ,u! eet. HOUSE OF (...).11,110NS. July 11. "fite SPEAKER took the :t few tiunotes boron.: Four ~'Clock. believed tlst ►pWtio,Uy conducted, w 9,44 be - NP• s'. SUPPLY.—LORD AUCKLA - o f tb% P o r Sir R. PEEL, in rising to move the Ord' 4. te e et ; dig, for the House resolving itself into a Cum° „f o" t i,ord ply, said, he wished to take that opp ortunitY,,,i t e ( o n the statement made by the Noble Lord oplb'' l „, o ne , le' Palmerston) on the last night, or the 19 • 61 ' jo ile loth which the House met. That statement witscrifsiool • KEIGHTLEY UNION, fovenee t o the p ol icy pursued by the late Geo i i , „bit! P est ,,l Alter a short conversation, l eave was g i ven to t h e regard to the war in Affghatistan. 411 ' 101 d pr"c ip a Keightley Union Committee, to continue their sitting,- had stated that her Majesty's Governmen t ..s Goll,,oti this evening, notwithstanding the sitting of tho House. 't° to Lord Auckland that he should reat in : , 0 0, icv• PRIVATE BILLS. General of India, and thence he inf,rred tliPiit. r e n a 'c'e• -un approval on the part of the Government t ~ i mer .., , s The Bishop of Derry's Estate Bill was read a second - • . s on .011 c time. He mu.t decidedly protest against 110., her WO p ., 0. Tc Davidson Estate Bill, the Cleveland Estate Bill. : In Ili'. drat place he should say, tina l i i t h e rt f tse d l il :(o! Government had been disposed to a" - , I . o f In , the the Litzwilliam Estate Bill, and several others, were rt - , . ported. . the se • "lees nl . ..Lord Auckland, , i n errt- The MoStyn, Bridgewater, Southampton. Lorton, and a certain time, it was not thence to he , t, dot i. f A Tweeddale Estates Bills were read a second time, as was government made themselves a part)" ' be part e u , of , There must be every disposition on t • rret' c oci also Verconsin's Naturalisation Bid. - a s Govern( . ___ ‘ ,4 tha ,oo ., the Of 1 ,d..?_ A LIVERPOOL IMPROVEMENTS BILL. Government, whatever might be • Auclt -...t AV Lord • w . The Lords' amendment's to this Da .w.ore agreed to,. Political _feeling, i considering that . and tho - 13111 Viai maid. -." . . - .. icir fiius ear saninigered she affairs us ... MANES NAVIGATION BILL. cams orought down Irmo the Lords• any amendment. NEW POOR-LAW BILL. Mr. ORI) presented a petition from a relig" ls ill , ciety against certain clauses of the new Poor-law Sir 11 , )WARD DOUGLAS resented 1 11 Pt ti • t f i r oTe N stl i istd l hinnelt.hcaotnCopliitotiinyiliign parts(l) B32. °f.ll l' COll5l NATIONAL EDUCATION (IRELAND). Mr. Serg ean t JACKSON presented several p ea( against th e p resent system of National Educatioa Ireland. DISTRESS OF THE COUNTRY. ochz Mr. SIIARMAN CRAWFORD said he me to sent a remonstrance from the inhabitants en 1 in pubric meeting assembled, complaining of the d i s c of the country, which was to the effect— _lif 1. That the people of the U n it e d Kingdom are'nows74, ing unparalleled distress, as proved by various robe° and other documents; • of er it ‘. e. That deaths from destit u ti o n, and commission k,, from absolute w ant are daily occurring and rapidlyinereesin 3. That not only are the working classes sunk to the 7 0 0 distress, but the middle classes are rapidly s lesceatlig same state • . o ,tie 4. That during the existence of this condition of t he the annual production of wealth from the resources 0f t pe r e llik pire has increased in a remarkable degree, an anot_ o :!, l no , f o, can only be accounted for by the monopoly of pelit i r bi j Or. the unjust usurpation of authority, and the conseque'D ' vernment of the nation ; _.,.. 4 ' f eed I° . 5. That the great mass of the people are not rce,-,j i fa 0/ Parliament ; that, therefore, legislation is condor - balls' benefit of a class, and not for the interests of the people; ' ittiO d " d 6. That the unenfranchised people have petit w ed and repeatedly without the smallest effect, or even li.r" • relief ,• . - --4 ho rd st 7. That 3,500,000 people prayed by petition te,2 d 0 tbi the bar of your House, but that hearing was denie d,, same time their objects cruelly misrepresented; „ail° . 8. That the people, therefore, have no hopes of 7 1 ,: i pt; 3 dress from a House of Commons constituted as the rr o bo 9. That the people assembled on this occasion 'e& ir this last declaration to your Honourable House, . tit ~i 0 ploring the utter disregard by your House of the:111 and dreading the corgemiences to which that diFrefter"_ t oy 11. , i 10. The people i WI as embled hereby declare PP' ditio; take such peaceful Rea Legal steps to remedy their at d tbP the well being of society, ,he security of propertYse"'" extreme sufferings imperetively demand. (Signed, on behalf of the meeting) „,..1 : , 0 01. THOMAS LIVESEY, uo'n: ItY The SPEAKER inturmed the Hon. Menhir-I,le ferias of the House, as observed hitherto, did of the'presentation of a remonstrance which kg . with in a prayer. /. The ‘• reonetrance" was accordingly withrlioolo Mr. T. DUNCOMBE presented a p e titiol s ok Sheffield, complaining of the treatment of Sitta ti e tree, and praying for medical investigation.' 1 40 Mr. JOHN O'CONNELL presented a retitie!:!..- '''' t an increase of the stamp duties in Ireland. N iferel l Mr. O'CONNELL presented petitions from i . : of 0 parts of Ireland, complaining of the managem en ' Post-office in that country. , • SUPPLY. ~e cie7 4 Mr. THOMAS DUNCOMBE gave nodes 1 7 4 har the House went into Committee on Supply, ,ll t eei r move as an instruction to the Committee, that s co e i roaming estimates excepting those required fo r .' o ,, e iel Syria, and China, be granted for a period not 0, three months.(Hear, hear.) PERSONATION AT ELECTIONS . Mr. LIDDELL gave notice that he should, 0 0 IL" day, move for leave to bring in a Bill to prevent Y tion ut elections. MINES AND COLLIERIES BILL.. Io r Mr. STANSFIELD wished to ask a questicteg Secretary of the Home Department, relative to; ce d ports on Mines and Collieries. The first Report_ 4 o9 from the Commissioners was dated Ist Of Ar i , f4 l,„l f and they then stated that they had given a fat _ fl se, port of the circumstances to which they had be4 o of to gain access with regard to the employment 0t...tyl and children ; of the moral training of the child-fps stated it to be their intention to speak in 1 . 4/ Report. He wished to ask the Right Hon. 67,7 when that Report would be laid on the table ?',....4,,, Sir JAMES GRAHAM said he had had aet to: cation with the Commissioners, and from 1 5 4 4 0",, place he was led to believe that two more Ber g )ir in progress, but he could not say whether they 77 printed this session or not. , i FACTORIES BILL. • ,_,„ f 0 Mr. STANSFIELD wished to know whete",/, other Report had been received upon the facteltilf, tion, because he :inderstood that evidence had let es . taken which would materially affect the questiotol, Sir JAMES GHAT 2AM said that it *V Sti o issue only annual Reports, but there were, howc.ii quarterly Reports, which were being printed, ~el. would be laid before the House as early as posenott Mr. HINDLEY wished to know if it were a ir li t , lion of :he Government to propose any altetr r ', Factory Bill ? 1 0# Sir JAMES GRAHAM said the Governme n ~ such intention. . Ea ° ROMAN CATHOLIC GRIEVANC iOOO Mr. I'. DUNCOMBE said he presented 9; p 4 009 other day signed by a great number of Roman L'il` , ./ He wished to ask tae Right Hon. Baronet,•iti . a IVIS I) with that petition, whether it was the intentifol Government to introduce any Bill founded:0 111 0 o Report of the Commissioners of Criminal . Lsitw:'!' 4, , Sir J. GRAHAM said he could not .do bed l; answer to the question of the Hon. Gentlemiitt ~ , tl:en refer hie: to what was stated in' the' e: which ie. ..Ili: ;it was there distinctly.•et 00 44 ci.tu,,, of the Bill could not be brought undt.e e ii,-1..,ti,i, of I' iii.m , nt without raising a stieste7,4 might. It-ad e . considerable incenvenienem - • ..,,_,• fri lir rim RECENT A'ITEMPTS UPON 1 1 ,'•17 JES'I'Y'S LIFE. .. : ' 41 ;ide l Sir R I'EEL gave notice that he should' W ri , move for leave to bring in a Bill to provide 11% 6 ,,, tiled)• for the security of her Majesty's per Son% ,ji I THE TARIFF. 4 i# Mr. LABOUCHERE stated, that in eon it: what had fallen from him on the subject of Ce tit iir we understood), the Right Hon. Gentleman, t i President of the Board of Trade, said he wow' take to remedy the grievance if the effect-of thell k ; 0 0 should be such as he (Mr. Labouchere) had-stal Mr. GLADSTONE said he had no occasion , w, h4at the answer which he gave on a former day. be:74r of 24 hours, however, he should be able to nyto,.l Right Hon. Gentleman with more minuteness.' '2.' A Mr. T. DUNCOMBE TOBACCO wished to know wheth6f,eo the intention of the Government to proceed ei ~,: 4? Tobacco Regulations Bill this session ? 4 44 1) Sir R. PEEL said that his Right Hon F 1 ",„i Chancellor of the Exchequer had had an inter e ' a esPa persons concerned in the trade ; and if the Hon . man waited till he cause, his Right Hon. Fries e no doubt, give him an answer. 2;00 CORN-LAWS. " Mr. HUME presented a petition from ther t he, (ll4 ,; and Magistrates of Dunfermline, complaining ° e . 1 17,1 . tress of the country, which they state to his% r e from the restrictions of trade, and praying for " • of the Corn-laws. ECCLESIASTICAL LEASINGS Blar4l - 1 Lord J. RUSSELL was understood to ask oWdp • the intention of' the Government with regard to tnl.fia Sir J. GRAHAM said he was desirous of gi p' i satisfactory answer to the Noble Lord on this q •r It was his (Sir James Graham's) wish that $ O lll ill' ,o l should pass ; he should wish, however, to proe e _ a d l 4 ,ll the Poor-law Bill, and when he saw what pros'",,] A; measures made, he should be desirous to . pt' the Ecclesiastical Leasings Bill. of BELFAST ELECTION. Ile? e.- On the motion of Mr. O'CONNE-L, the - . &- l the Select Committee on the Belfast Elect ~;:, brought up, and ordered to be printed. ..... o r MUNICIPAL CORPORATIONS BJ I I I O I O O Mr. LEADER said he had to make a coal s t ot ; what he considered a very unfair and tfishone / ,',. i f the part of some Member of the Govereow - ber,4 Saturday morning, a very few minutes_,. 4 -iri , three, the Municipal Corporations Bill ' v" - , ford a third time and passed. It would b e ., ee„ 1 0 , lected that a few evenings ago, when it vi'''.'"'„, e tl ' that the Bill should be committed " e' t ...age' h cal if fl' hour of the night, h e o bj ec t e d t o it s b e ing A . 0 1 then without further di scuss i on , but that he 144 ; 0 0101 objection on the understanding that the Bill su , jr,T e r pass until further di s cu s sion h a d b e en afforded/ll b e e ko " 0 stated that material c lauses o f the Bill had' o t !pi' pngeti, and that the Bill was altogether differ e c ode i bi what it had been. He thought, under the si ;ittrier stanct.s, a gross breach of faith had been coti! ,01 00 01 0 the third reading of th e Bill, and in future. - I , 4 lcer any Government Bill was bet' re the 11°0%07: reel justi fi ed in o ff ering every obst; uction il l ~ .iif - i i i i iti to its progress. ' .' r. v o Sir R. PEEL said he was not assure that lll° ." been rend. He was certain there could 110, 1 1 1 s piiol LtentiOTl to takeativntafigt. tbl (ht. Hon. Gennet c Sir G. CLEi. K said the Bill had steed Id! —_-.r. . leading several nigh s, ' 0 1 7, 4141 _A . In reply L. a rine,tik,:: rl , lll Mr. T. DuNt.: l o - :_,„, The (ILA Nc._:El.i.ou k)f the EXCHEQu d et!,l7, !leo the 'I 'fold .R.gulations 13ili would be wird Fri.lay'next.ht IIE NEW COINAGE. ...,* ..4b0. 14 , 1 01 0 Mr. HUME wished to know what WY: 4 009 lion. Gi-ntieman had taken to supply tbeaivet o si' ~ i lver cut rency. As a mutter of savour he, .7.te5t‘1,71.„ in :liver at the Bank.—(Laughter.) The gll io tat t ;gif Ho inconvenience was felt t. rttughout the ',, t •etlt ~i f wi , hcil to k f lOW whether any coin had hoe e . ' - - - `-"' - lithe ,o, oi wino extent. PIO v talk ii4 • 1g The CliA NCELLOR of the EXCHE- g i n t : -Akes could assure Vie Flinn Getitle ban that the the $.-.4il' work upon silver coin. and was supplying,: o ool. i. ° the fast as pa•sible. The Bank had issued ovi de d t i !• ver since the Hon. Gentleman before ou f 1c