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Y • - . - 4,4 Y~~.,• t.-1 ce - did not mean to say that some qualifications had not been introduced into the present bill, but be should deceive the house if he did not state that the measure was substan tially the same as the former one. He did not think, however, it was necessary for him to make any apology for again laying on the table of the house a bill that had been last year rejected. No doubt that rejection was a matter of considerable disappointment, both to himself and all the lovers of education in Scotland; but the dis appointment was qualified by the consideration that, at all events, it had not arisen from any fault on the part of the Scotch members. (Hear, hear.) The proposition for its rejection was carried by the votes of English members, and the Scotch members divided in the proportiton waso hirty-six to fourteen in favour of the b ill. I made to a great extent a party question, and the ground on which the rejection took place was this, % n ation of thed this alone, h that, in proposing a measure for thc. • n people of Scotland, they did not con, e u the exclusive superintendence of the Established Ch urch is Scotland, sad the exclusive privilege of m embers of that denomina tion to teach in the schools. He now brought forward the measure with the expectation, which was not unreasonable, that on this occasion he might perhaps be more successful. Since the commencement of the session a bill for the edu- Cation of the people of England had been introduced by a right hon. baronet on the other side (Sir J. Pakington), for which he was entitled to receive the thanks and gratitude of every philanthropic man in the country, and the right hon. Bart. had made it impossible for rimy man to stand up anti maintain that the education of the people was a thing dangerous to the institutions of the country, and that they could not educate the people safely, except through the in tervention of an Established Church. (Hear.) He (the Lord Advocate) proposed to do by the bill which he asked leave to introduce, what he did not think the right lion. baronet proposed to do by his measure. He (the Lord Ad vocate) proposed that an educational survey should be made by inspectors who would be directed to survey the whole state of Scotland as regards its education, and to report to the house within a limited time. The surveyors would be directed to state how many schools wero in existence, how many schools were wanting; where they were wanting — what fauailies sent their children to school, and what fami lies did not, so that they should have on the table a state ment which would enable them without the slightest diffi culty to put their fingers on the districts where the greatest darkness and ignorance prevailed, and to apply a remedy at once. If that were done at once, and kept up from year to year, would they not make a - very great stride in advance? They would thus be able to show the country and Europe to what an extent they were fulfill ing the duty incumbent upon them of educating the people of the country and bringing up the rising generation in the way they ought to be reared. (Hear, hear.) The next provision of the bill related to the details of the educational system proposed by him to be established. There was a difference between the positions of England and Scotland with regard to education. In England there was no educational system that was compulsory at all ; in .Scotland they had ever since the Reformation a system of education which was compulsory. The first question they had to deal with was this—would h on ourable gentlemen opposite this year, as they did last year , re f use unless refuse to allow this measure to pass even a second reading on the condition that the superintendence of the Established Church should continue and remain over the parochial schools in Scotland ? According to the system proposed by the right honourable baronet it was not necessary to have the schools under the superintendence of the Estab- , lished Church. The right honourable baronet proposed. that the school was to be in connection with the denomi nation that formed the majority in the district; but if that plan were adopted in Scotland, what did they think would be the result ? In sixteen counties in Scotland the plan proposed by the right hon. baronet would place the whole education of those counties in the hands of the Free Church, and there were only two counties in which the Established Church was in an absolute majority. In Scotland nine -tenths, or at all events seven-eights, of the population were agreed in creed, and he asked the right hon. gentleman whether, as he had proposed such a scheme for England, it was possible to maintain that with seven-eighths of the people of Scotland agreed in creed, they could put the control of the national schools in the hands of a body that formed a smaller proportion of the population ? The right hon. baronet proposed no test, and when in England they did not ask for the predominance of the majority, why should they in consistency saddle them in Scotland with the predominance of a minority. By this bill he (the Lord Advocate) proposed to do away with the superintendence of the Established Church, but still he conceived it would be found that the heritors would have a very considerable voice in the matter. Then he came to the question of religious education, and he need scarcely say that he had never been an advocate for secular education, and the last thing he should wish to propose would be the exclusion of religion from their schools. He knew the peopl.e of Scotland to be a religious people, and that the thing they had most deeply at heart was the reli gions education of the people. He agreed in the opinion that secular education was a false theory, and was one that could not be applied to Scotland, though, at the same time, he must say that he should rather have secular education than none. But it was needless to talk of that, because Scot land would not have secular education ' • it would only have education with religious instruction at the same time. He proposed to state in the preamble the attachment of the people of Scotland to the use of the Holy Scriptures in the schools, and then to have a provision that an hour should be set apart for religious instruction in the schools. Ho con sidered that the clause which proposed to give power to the Privy Council to contribute towards the maintenance of rchools was very much misunderstood, but he proposed to introduce a provision that after a particular day the grants from the Privy Council should be altogether discountinued with regard to schools belonging to the classes that ought to join generally in education. As the Roman Catholic Schools formed but a small proportion, he proposed to leave those schools in their present position. He would be guilty of an injustice if he did notsay that the schools of the Established Church were in a state of great efficiency. The competition which had occurred during the last 15 years had created a great deal of energy in that quarter, but that did not con vince him that a body of clergy that Could only visit the schools at intervals was an (Ancient body for the superin tendence of schools of this description. Then what were they to do with the towns? It was proposed not to leave it at the option of towns to have schools or not as they thought proper, but to make it compulsory upon them to have schools where schocls were required. Audio regard to country districts where parochial schools were inefficient it was proposed to make an assessment for the parpoee of sup plying such schools. It appeared that another bill had been introduced by an hon. member, but how would that bill work? It would certainly extend greatly the parochial schools, but would leave the denominational schools just as they were. It would continue an erroneous denomina tional system, whereby persons professing substantially the same opinion, brought up their children with the belief that those who went to school at one side of the street dif fered entirely from those who went to school at the other side of it. He wanted to put that down. He wanted to put down sectarianism. Men agreeing substantially in the same doctrines had by unfortunate events been separated, and it was desirable that the next generation should be taught to abate the animosities that prevailed. It was by no moans essential he thought to keep up these tests in the towns, and as long as they required to have tests which would prevent any persons but members of the Established Church from being masters iu the schools, it was utterly vain to pass a measure. They might perhaps sot an ex ample showing that, notwithstanding religious differences might arise, still a system of education might be esta blished which should restore Scotland to her good name, and perhaps be an advantage to the sister kingdom. H e concluded by moving for leave to bring in the bill. Lord DUNCAN seconded the motion. Mr. STIRLING said the learned lord began his . specch by alluding to the large number of Scotch members who voted with him last year, and contrastin g that large num ber with the small number who oppos e d him. He could not deny that such was the case, but he wished to offer to the house a short explanation why it was so. First of all ho was sorry to say that the majority of the Scotch mem bers were generally in the habit of sitting on the Ministe rial side of the house, and nobody regretted that fact more than he did. (A laugh.) The majority of the Scotch mem bers followed their natural bent and voted with the side of the house on which they sat. But there was yet another reason. The house could not be too soon informed that in Scotland the parochial system did not extend to the towns, and it was not surprising that members who represented town constituencies should be glad to catch at any scheme which gave their constituents a system of education. The learned lord next went on to refer to the bill of the right hon. baronet the member for Droitwich, and he asked how those who supported that scheme could oppose the same thing for Scotland. The answer to that would be found in the great difference which existed between the educational position of England and Scotland, still more in the marked difference which there was in the position which the Church of Scotland held with regard to education and that occupied by the Church of England. The Church of England possessed no educational eatablishment whatever ; it possessed no pa rochial apparatus such as that which was attached to the Church of 'Scotland. From the beginning of its existence the Church of Scotland had taken a lively interest in edu cation, and for two centuries and a half the Church of Scotland had sedulously watched over the education of the people; but education formed no part of the ecclesiastical system of the Church of England. The two Churches, therefore, presented such a marked con trast as to make what might be fair and right for Eng land quite the reverse for Scotland. The parochial schools of Scotland were in a flourishing condition ; but the learned . lord attributed that, not to the influence of the Church, but to competition ; and yet, five minutes afterwards, he appealed to them to support a bill to put down that competition. On the point of difference of creed, the learned lord admitted that the difference of creed between the two churches was very slight. Well, now, if it had been great, there might have been a case for the bill, but the difference being slight, there was no necessity whatever for it. Everybody knew that the parochial schools of Scot land were not sectarian schools, and children of all sects, including Roman Catholics, frequented them, thereby -proving that parents did not object to their sy s t em of re - IFlfoAts teaching. The learned lord, adverting to his (Mr d a l t u nio bill for improving the parochial schools, said it town r . lpi t f u ar enough, because it di t o n do so , with the object wa s to it w a s ' of intended so, as its simple • -which airmulgend those defects iu the parochial system lord asked them (114 and every one deplored. di fference learned (mislay aside their sectarian , and to meet up,3_,,pe _mcoeramon ground. Well, let him try this bilbleasseahluteze of their in the towns, and then there would upon common ground but while he made that off ul e : e t ilt g list he allowed. to add that there was no avant of a l jo offer , h e e a ' l e a the largo towns, such as Edinburgh, Glasgow Aberdeen...sucltioposrand sc 1 oeszths_should 1)1 difficulty, than was not the wan of ac commodation, b at ' some means by which induced to send their children to sche s o l . l to the learned lord to let them meet on that esenn L a PPealtal - which he desiderated, and which he (Mr s` . Stirlieg).hti7enad lured to shadow forth. Let the learned lord remetab the advice of Lord Brougham, that the subject t er cation in Scotland divided itse lf ;l into two heacts, el town and country, and it ought therefore to berlealt with in two bills, not in one only. Mr. BAXTER claimed the kind indulgence whic sai dah the house always extended to a new me mber, few words upon the subject, to which he had de voted a o good deal of attention. The learned lord requireri nu apology apology for calling attention to the question, for if t here was a question more than another apart from the war, in which the people of Scotland took a deep interest, and which always engrossed their attention, it was this ques tion of education. They regarded it as of vital importance, and he should he greatly disappointed indeed if the propo sition now submitted to their consideration was not hailed with the utmost satisfaction. Notwithstanding what the last speaker had said, the bill breathed an enlightened and liberal spirit, while he must also add his opinion that it had been framed by no unskilful hand. He did not wish to say a single disrespectful word concerning the present paro chial schools ; they had done much to elevate and advance his native laud, but since they had come into operation Scotland had undergone an entire cha nge . Th e d ec id e d 7 . 27 „ 'moiety of the people of that country no l onger a tt en d e d Established Church, and, that being tlie cams, it could THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, MAR,CII 24, 1855. hardly be expected that they should give their sympathy and support to the measure of the hon. member for Perth shire, which was a mer e extension of the existin g s y stem. It had been said that these schools were not sectarian ; it was 1 true that in many respects the teachin g was not sectarian,but being under the superintendence of the Presbyters, was it not reasonable to expect that they would always be looked upon as sectarian, particularly in Scotland, where so much importance was attached to doctrine and religious differ ences. The hon. gentleman who last addressed them ad vocated one system for the town and another for the coun try, but he was much mistaken if the real majority of the Scotch people would not rather prefer one universal sys tem. The only plan which would satisfy them must be at once rational, free from all sectarian tests and exclusive control. He was not a Free Churchman, but as a Dissen ter he wanted to say that he must strongly deprecate the course taken by some gentlemen of the same polemics as himself, when on a former occasion they united with gen tlemen opposite holding opinions diametrically opposed to their own, in order to defeat a measure which, though of a practical character, did not come up to their peculiar ab stract theories. Mr. C. BRUCE could not but deeply regret that his hon. and learned friend should have thought it right'again to introduce this bill, which the house rejected last year. In Scotland there was a system of parochial education which had been in existence for neatly 20:) years, which had produced the most beneficial effects upon the country, and before they abolished or risked the constitution of that system, it ought to be clearly shown that the proposed substitute would prove a better system. Lot the scheme thou embraced in this bill be tested in the towns before it was applied to the counties. With regard to the sta tistical map which the bill proposed, he had no ob jection whatever to it, because he believed the result of the inquiry would prove that in the majority of the parochial schools not only had the number of scholars greatly increased of late years, but the quality of the edu cation had vastly improved. As for increasing the remu neration of the schoolmasters, that had already taken place in the northern counties, where some were p aid 1001., and others 1501. a year, but still he should not have the least objection to see them still further increased. But, a witi measure education. which above all eu , d h a n e g c e a r l l the e (i u o p o o n n u t o h o t e i m on o o not r t i p g a i s u Until they had devised a system which would secure an improved secular and religious instruction, let them leave Scotland in possession of that invaluable institution which had conferred so many benefits on the country. Lord ELCHO thanked the learned Lord-Advocate for introducing a bill which was in principle the same as the measure of last year. Its object, he took to be, to establish, es far as possible, in Scotland a system of secular education versus sectarian, which hon. gentlemen opposite wished to support. Was it desirable, he asked, by supporting such a measure as that proposed by his hon. friend opposite (Mr. Stirling) to perpetuate that odium, theo!ogicum, which now unfortunately existed, arisirg from the multitude of sects into which the Scottish people were now divided, and the keenest of sectarian feeling existing in consequence ? The present measure would establish united education on the ancient Presbyterian basis of the parish schools, and obviate all danger of sectarian rancour. It was incorrect to say that the bill of last year obtained the support only of the representatives of the large towns of Scotland. Thefact was, that two-thirdi of the Scotch members voted for the mea sure proposed by the Lord Advocate, and one-third only for that of his hon. friend opposite, and that amongst the county members the latter had but a majority of one in its favour. So that but for the absence of the late lamented member for Forfarshire (Colonel Maule), who was detained by his duties in a distant region, the numbers on both sides would have been equal. He hoped that English mem bers would bear this in mind, and pay some regard to the feelings and wishes of the people of Scotland. He wished to guard himself against being supposed to be in any way hostile to the Established Church of Scotland. So far from this, he believed that in voting for the bill he should be doing the best for the interests of that church, which was placed in an invidious position by the attempt to mo nopolise a system intended for the use and benefit of the whole of Scotland. He gave his hearty support to the bill, convinced that in doing so he should be doing that which ought to be the object of every Scotchman in the house, and promoting his country's welfare. (Hear.) Mr. JOHN MACGREGOR believed that, if members were as well acquainted with Scotland as himself, they would not for a moment think of opposing the bill of the Lord Advocate. No people in the world were so much in debted to their educational institutions as the Scotch, but the present system was utterly inadequate for the instruc tion of the present population. Viscount DUNCAN had not been a member of the house ' when the bill of last year was introduced, but had he been so it should have received his warmest support. He had heard nothing to show that an educational measure was not wanted for Scotland; on the contrary, everything combined to show that such a measure was absolutely required, and would confer the most material benefits. There could be no better proof of this than the criminal statistics of 1854, from which it appeared that of the persons committed to prison during that year 4,474 could not read, and 9,250 could not write. It must not be forgotten that the Estab lished Church of Scotland no longer represented the majo rity of the people, as it did when the parochial system ori ginated. The bill of his right hon. friend proposed to in clude the rural districts as well as the large towns, whereas that proposed on the other side would not he so extended, because the hon. gentleman who brought it in was aware of his difficulty, and knew that he would be shipwrecked the moment he came to the subject of the test. If the measure contained no test, the honourable gentleman would be accused by the friends of the Church of deserting his principles, whilst, if it contained such a provision, it would be received with dismay by the bulk of the Scottish people. If they were to have a parliamentary system of education established in Scotland, let it, at all events, be a uniform one. In former days Scotland had taken the lead in matters of education, but more recently she had been outstripped by Germany and other countries. He gladly supported the measure now brought in, because it tended to replace her in the situation she had formerly occupied; Mr. F. SCOTT thought the measure intended to act on an opposite system from that which had hitherto prevailed in Scotland, holding out no guarantee for religious instruction. The learned Lord Advocate had endeavoured to induce a belief that those on this side of the house were opposed to any measure for the promotion of education in Scotland, but this imputation he utterly repudiated. They sought to perpetuate the existing system, and to improve it; whereas the noble lord, who said he was ready to meet them on a common ground, and deprecated all sectarian spirit, did not in realityadvance one jot towards that object. Why, ho asked, needlessly abolish the guarantee for the orthodoxy of religions opinions? Why come to the con solidated fund to relieve the heritors of a burden which they were in fact perfectly willing to bear, for they were anxious to join in carrying on a system beneficial to all, and adverse to none ? If it was the right hon. gentleman's sincere wish to abolish sectarianism and do away with the animosities they regretted to see prevailing, why did be not come forward and propose some provision that world form a guarantee and test for the soundness of the religious opinions of the schoolmasters ? If 95 per cent. of the people of Scotland entertained the same religious belief, why should they not require a guarantee that the youth of the coming generation should retain the pure faith of their fathers? He regretted that the measure should con tain nothing relating to reformatory schools, and feared that it would not be acceptable in its present shape to the people of Scotland. Mr. COWAN thought that no schools could surpass in efficiency those of Heriot's Hospital, at Edinburgh, where no religious test was enforced. He had heard with great pleasure the desire expressed by several hon. members that: the salaries of the parochial schoolmasters should be in creased, and hoped that an opportunity would be afforded to the heritors of unbuttoning their pockets to the utmost extent. The miserable pittance hitherto awarded to them, not more than that of a common labourer, was in the highest degree disgraceful to the country. Even the rooms of their dwelling-houses had been restricted to two, whilst the maximum salary of the schoolmaster was fixed at 341. His right hon. friend's bill proposed to replace this state of things by a thoroughly equipped and efficient system, hold ing out premiums to individuals to devote themselves to the acquisition of knowledge, and the best methods of communicating it. Mr. BO UVERIE hoped that the house would permit the present bill to pass into law, and that it would not sustain a defeat similar to that which the measure introduced last year received in consequence of the extraordinary combi nation which then took place among hon. members. There was one clause in the bill of last year to which he most strongly objected, that was the ono which providedfor the arbitrary dismissal of schoolmasters by the Board of Edu tion. He hoped that in the present bill some modification of that clause would be made. The LORD ADVOCATE stated that the clause referred to would be found to be modified. Mr. WALPOLE thought that the noble lord might have accomplished his object of providing for the educational wants of Scotland by drawing some distinction between the more rural parts of Scotland and the large and populous towns. Had the bill been so framed, so far from its meeting with any opposition on his side of the house, it would have received a most cordial and hearty support. By bringing in a bill which introduced the very religious differences which they all wished to avoid, the blame must surely ra ther rest with those who caused the discussion upon such religious differences than with those who might oppose the measure, but who were as anxious as any honourable mem bers could be to conciliate the religious feelin g s of the peo ple.of Scotland, and at the same time to extend and pro mote the cause of education. Considering that the system of education which now existed in Scotland had been es tablished for nearly two centeriee, and hail sent forth many persons of the highest education, he thought it was not wise rashly to abolish the system, and by so doing offend the feelings of a very large portion of the people of Scotland. The noble lord had argued from the introduction of a bill by the right hon. baronet the momberfor Droitwich, which, was to apply to England, that its principles entirely justi fied him in pressing upon the house the measure which he had brought forward. There was, however, a wide distinc tion between the two countries which had been overlooked. In Scotland there existed a system of education which had prevailed for a long time, which had succeeded admirably, and which only required extension; while in England there was no such system. With respect the object of the bill there could be no doubt that upon both sides of the house there existed a unanimous feeling in favour of extending education to the fullest possible extent for the benefit of the people both in England and Scotland. (Hear.) Lord PALMERSTON congratulated his noble friend the Lord Advocate upon the tone and temper of the discussion which had ensued upon the motion which he had submit• ted to the house. There appeared to bo some important points of general agreement upon all hands, and he trusted that in the course of the discussion of the bill, when its details were brought under tho consideration of the house, there might be a nearer approximation in opinion than the house at present might be disposed to anticipate. As to the leading principles of the bill there appeared to be a very general acquiescence by all parts of the house. No one, indeed, could deny the importance of extending education among the people of Scotland. The system of education Scotlandin t 3 h eia a a d a t i. aken a strong hold upon the people, and stood pre-eminent for many years as an excellent system. Circumstances had now, however, greatly changed, and swvheonts.h_ad occurred which were not anticipated by these tortnerteeor tir t .foundation in Scotland for this general sys education, and which had completely some provoelnclition of things. It was necessary that hie member for t. Perth had proceeded in his bill P v pn en that the present state of things hnir,they were told, for inetance, what upon the must be altered,a an the e lary given to these mou needuwion the people, was the scanty w c e e i s . :ity for some change to whom they had entrusted knowledge,suchpaltrycapacity,natural enduredthat pittances as ware now given to them ? Another ca use of the p eople of regret con nected with the educa tion of .scotaand.was the manner in which the pe o p le were split up i n t o di fferent religious sects. He respected highly the deep religio us opinions which had led to the separation into these sects • but surely it was desirable that those differences w hici divided the people into different 1500a0111 511010 not b e al, _ millomed lowed to enter the schools, nor that the children who at tended them should be permitted to enterinto religious an tagonism with each other, and that too at a time when they were incapable of understanding the groundsupon which the differences of opinion wore founded. These were really the two great points of advantage which the plan now before the house possessed over the plan proposed by the other side. He trusted from what had passed this evening in the course of the discussion, that whatever differences might exist as to the details of the plan, that when the second reading of the bill was proposed the house would come to the discussion with the same tone and temper which had pervaded the debates that evening, and that both English and Scotch members would feel that this was an object of great national importance, and would give the bill their best consideration. (Hear.) Mr. ELLIOT contended that there was in reality no dif ference, as had been suggested by the hon. member for Midhurst, between the religious opinions of the rural dis tricts and the larger towns of Scotland, and that if they admitted the principle that the bill was applicable to the large towns, he would contend that it was equally appli cable to the rural districts, and ought therefore to be al lowed to become law. (Hear.) Mr. JOHNSTONE drew the attention of the house to two deficiencies in the bill, one of which was the total omission of all provision with respect to the education of girls ; and the other the absence of all provision for the training and education of schoolmasters. (Hear.) Mr. DUNLOP expresso :I a hope that, in the arrange. ments of the house, more justice would bo done to this bill than had been accorded to it last year. Mr. KINNAIRD expressed his decided approval of the bill. Mr. Sergeant SFIEE could not conceive that there would be any difficulty in providing a complete system of educa tion for Scotland, but trusted that some arr,ng,ements would be made by which those who represented the Ito man Catholic minority of Scotland would be enabled to give their support to the bill. (Hear, hear.) Mr. A. HA.STIE hoped that the education board would not be touched by the bill. Ho congratulated Scotland on the probability that the measure would receive the general concurrence of the house. He thought that a large body of the people of Scotland would receive the bill with more favour than they did the bill of last year. The LORD ADVOCATE replied, and leave was given to brinc , in the bill. brin g in IN SCOTLAND BILL. The LORD ADVOCATE postponed till Monday his motion for leave to bring in a bill to consolidate and amend the laws relating to bankruptcy in Scotland. INTRAMURAL BURIALS (IRELAND) BILL. On the motion for the third reading of this LordNAA.S said he feared that gruel injusti(.6 might be done under this bill, as there was no power given to any body to procure new burial grounds in cases where it might be found that old burial grounds were prejudicial to health. _ _ _ Mr. HORSMAN said there was a power given by the bill to representative boards, where burial grounds were shut up, to provide new ones. Mr. VANCE moved the addition of a clause providing for compensating clerks, sextons, anti beadles for the loss of fees and sums now received in respect of in terments. Lord PALMERSTON said that the honourable member was mistaken in supposing that in England compensation was given to those persons. Parliament gave compensation when this matter was first proposed ; but, in a subsequent session, Parliament reconsidered the question, and it was withdrawn ; and the noble lord (Lord Naas) in his bill'had not proposed to give any compensation. The clause was then withdrawn, and the bill was read a third time and passed. THE TRANSPORT SERVICE. On the motion for going into committee of supply, Mr. W. LINDSAY called the attention of the house to our administrative system. In doing so, he said he would endeavour to avoid all points with which the house had lately become so familiar, and he would not say a word with respect to what passed in the committee of inquiry which was sitting up stairs, much less attempt to antici pate the decision at which they would arrive. He would likewise avoid all personality, and endeavour to be just, even to be generous, to those whose conduct he was about to impugn. The case of our transport ships the house could not fail to consider most important, when they remembered that in two votes they had assigned 8,833,090/. for that service. It would bo necessary to preface the observations he was about to make on this service b'y referring to some remarks reported to have been made by a noble earl in an other place, who was supposed to be a great authority on maritime questions. That noble earl had used extraordi narily strong language in speaking of the transport service. He said that there could not have been a greater degree of ex travagance, of carelessness, and of ignorance in the making of contracts than had been displayed by the Admiralty; that there was confusion in the management of the trans ports from their departure to their arrival in this country ; and that when the Government might have ships in abundance on their own terms they had neglected to avail themselves of the offers that wore made to them. Part of the statements made by the noble earl were correct, but other parts were not so. When he stated that ships had come feirward in such abundance that the Admiralty might have had them on their own conditions he made a sad mistake.. When the Admiralty first called for tenders they received few offers of suitable vessels. By the statement of the noble earl he would lead the public to understand that the owners of ships had ten dered their vessels on the smaller tonnage, and that the Gra vernment had paid them on the larger tonnage. Such was not the case. The owners had sent their offers on the gross tonnage, and the noble earl was mistaken in supposing that the Admiralty could have obtained the vessels some on the larger and some on the smaller. In fact, the country could not have been benefited by taking these ships on the smaller tonnage. There was less chance of fraud on the larger than on the smaller tonnage. It was necessary for him (Mr. Lindsay) to premise by making these remarks, as ho wished to be just to all parties. He thought, too, that the noble earl had done the greatest injustice, although he , had not named the gentleman, to Captain Milne, one of the lords of the Admiralty, under whom the charge of the transports principally came. A more indefatigable and I zealous servaet the Crown had not than Captain Milne, he and therefore he was anxious to express the opinion which entei tallied of his services. (Hear.) Ho would only say a few words in.,re respecting a recommendation ma.do by the noble earl to whom he had referred. He had stated that the surest and safest plan for the Admiralty would have been to'have made the contracts with the owners, they contracting for the price of coals. He was surprised that the noble earl should make any such proposition. The Govern ment adopted. the course which they thought the cheapest, they courted vessels from all quarters; and he thought they adopted the wise course in agreeing to supply them with coals, for if they had called ou the owners to supply the coals they would have required a higher price. If the owners had been called on to supply these steamers with coals they would not have done it on the same advantageous terms as the Admiralty haddone, and the country would have had to pay more for their ships. (Hear.) With respect to one ship, which it was said was engaged to carry out coffee, she was tendered to the Admiralty five or six times and declined, for she was :onsidered toe deep. She was then engaged for a special purpose, running with despatches to Constanti nople and other places in the Black Sea. Tho Commander in-Chief was anxious to have such a vessel, and because Capt. Milne had been using his best endeavours to study , economy, he had been censured. He (Mr. Lindsay) could not lay the case fairly before the house unless he was just to all parties. Having said so much in justice to the Ad miralty, he feared thst he could say little more in favour of their conduct. In order to place before the house what might bo done for these transports, it would be necessary to state the amount of tonnage engaged. By a return made the 22d of January, it appeared that there were up to that time 123,320 tons of steamers engaged, and there had been since thou about 26,680 tons, making altogether about 150,000 tons of steamers. On the 22d of Jan. there were 91,410 tons of sailing vessels engaged, and since that time there were 8,510, thus making the tonnage of sailing vessels engaged 100,000. Ile was he thought under the mark in statieg the amount as being at present engaged. That is, we hail about 250,000 tons of transports, steamers and sailing vessels, employed. Ho carne next to a point on which he had to make a serious complaint—to a matter in which the money of the country had been sacrificed. He had shown that the steamers could not have been ob tained at lower prices by the Admiralty, but then there was an enormous amount of money sacrificed by delay. He would endeavour to show the house what might have been done with this enormous fleet of transports. A steam vessel should make six voyages per annum between this countryand the C rimea,so that, allowing two registered tons , foreach man, the 150,000 tons of steam-transport now in the service of the Government might have conveyed 75,000 , soldiers per voyage, or 450,000 per annum to the Crimea. Then we had 100,000 tons of sailing transports, which, al lowing only two voyages per annum to the Crimea and back might have readily conveyed 100,000 men per annum. Then as to cavalry, the steam transports could have readily convoyed 00,000 per annum, and the sailing vessels 20,004 per annum. So that we had here a fleet of transports ca pable of conveyingfrom the shores ef England to the Crimea 550,000 infantry and 110,000 cavalry in the course of one year. Had those 250,000 tons of steam and sailing trans ports been kept plying between Constantinople and the Crimea, they might have takenl6o,ooo infantry and 25,000 cavalry per voyage, or 1,992,000 infantry and 300,000 ca valry in the year. Then, besides these transports, it mast be recollected that a large number of vessels were engaged in conveying stores to the East, that we hat an immense fleet carrying coals, and that almost all the men-of-war which went out took a large amount of stores with them. In order to show the delay that took place, and the valu able time which was thus lost, ho might trace the progress of ode vessel—taken quite promiscuously—the Golden Fleece, a steamer of 2,000 tons, which cost the country about 7,0001. per month. This vessel which left Leith Roads 1 on the 11th of March, 1854, was subject to delays both at Malta and Gallipoli, and then, after lying idle six weeks ' at Scutari, she was in June last ordered home by Admiral Boxer, having at the time on board a large quantity of provisions, which the captain could get no order to de liver, and also a large quantity of valuable space taken up by empty provision c isles, which the commander conld obtain no authority to doltroy or land. Another ship actually arrived off the Alma the day after the battle, but although the captain reported that he had a num ber of surgeons en board, their assistance was not availed of at a time when surgeons were so much wanted, until twenty-four hours after her arrival. (Hear, hear.) Why, at this very moment two large steamers, the Germania and the Hermes, which cost the country 12,0001. o per month, had been lying idle at Deptford for three weeks. What had they been doing there? Why, they were said to have been fitting up berths for soldiers, a thing which could have been easily done in two days. He believed that out of the eight millions voted for this serviee, about two millions had been totally lest through unnecessary delays. Now, what had been the cause of this? He was not prepared to say that the fault rested with the Admi ralty. He believed it rested with the whole system, which required a thorough reform. When the Commissariat wanted to send stores they wrote to the Admiralty to take up a ship. The ship was sent to Deptford, but very fre quently the stores were not ready. When they were, however, each department sent a separate officer to super intend the stowage of their own stores, and the result was that the greatest possible amount of wrangling and confu sion took piece, resulting in those extraordinary cases of ill-stowages which had been brought before the public. Trio remedy for this was for the Admiralty to receive and stow the goods and be responsible fur their delivery in the Crimea. He WAS aware they had taken steps to remedy the evil by instituting a transport board. Bat he had no faith in boards. What they wanted was a single officer to undertake the whole duty of a carrier with respect to the goods sent, and to bo responsible to the Secretary-at -War. (Hear, hear.) Another important defect was, as to the manner in which accounts were passed at the Ad miralty. • The honourable gentleman then entered into some minute details with rsspect to the delays which a mercantile firm with whom ho was acquainted had en countered in passing an account at the Admiralty, and Paqticularly in coilsequeuce of An in:portant pontiott bean _. . r held by a deaf and dumb person, with whom all commu nication was obliged to be conducted in writing. He stated that on an application being made for payment of an ac count which had been sent in five months before, the ap plicant was informed by the storekeeper that it was mis sing, but that it might possibly be found in the office, which was being put in order, but that it was too great a waste of time to lock for it. (A laugh,) This was a state of things which the country could not and ought not to endure, for it was one which had brought on us great dis aster, and had disgraced us in the eyes of other nations. (Hear, hear.) Take another case. lie recollected three or four years ago that his firm had an account against the Admiralty to the amount of 31. ss. Gd. for freight. Well, three or four weeks after it was sent in it was returned for amendment, because the amount was not set down in words as well as figures. (Laughter.) It was sent in again, but about ten days afterwards his collecting clerk came to him and told him that from the formalities to be undergone, and the different offices to be visited, it would take him a week to collect it. He (Mr. Lindsay) found that he should have lost more than the amount of the account by his clerk being withdrawn from some useful business, and the result was that the account was left uncalled for, and he supposed still remained unpaid. (Hear.) About four years ago he had another account of about 2,0001. against the Admiralty, and after it had remained unpaid some six weeks he resolved to apply personally at the Admiralty with respect to it. Accordingly one morning, about half-past ten o'clock, he called in at an office whore ha found three desks. Two were unoccupied, but at the third a gentleman was seated, lolling carelessly in au arm chair, whistling the air of " Peter Dick," and beating time on the desk with a ruler. (A laugh ) Ha did not know anything about the account ; he said it had not reached him. While they were talking together, another young gentlemen came in, with his hat cocked on one side of his head, and a gold-headed cane in hi- hand, and said, "Tone going down by the eleven o'clock boat ; don't think I shall come back until four o'clock. Keep all quiet." (A laugh.) He then went away, and he (Mr. Lindsay) was then in formed by the other clerk that as this gentleman, through whose office his account must pass, had gone to Gravesend, it was not likely that his account would reach the office where he then was that day, and that ho consequently could not then obtain payment of it. As he went away he could not help expressing a hope that the clay might come when he might have something to do in rooting out the " Peter Dicks" who had so large a share in bringing on us national misfortune and disgrace ; for the large part of the evils that had befallen us arose from the system of pa tronage which introduced these " Peter Dicks" into the public offices. There were many men now engaged in the Government offices, with salaries varying from 801. to 5001. per annum, whose services were so utterly valueless that it would in fact be cheaper for the country to pay them the salaries to stay away from the offices. On the other hand many men in the Government offices were paid far too small salaries. It would bo well for the Government to in crease their pay, and sweep away the " Peter Dicks." The time had certainly now arrived when we must have ad ministrative reform, by which he meant that the Govern ment business must, as far as possible, bo conducted in the same manner as that of the large banking mercantile esta blishments of this country. One thing he was certain of, that the nation would not endure the longer continuance of a system which had brought on us both ruin and dis grace. (Hoar.) Sir J. GRAHAM would not say that the administrative reform on which his hon. friend insisted so strongly was not necessary in some of the public departments, for he be lieved that the Government had already felt the necessity, and that the remedy was in course of being applied. But with regard to the navy, to which the remarks of the hon. gentleman principally applied, he must remark when he was connected with the Government of Earl Grey, twenty years ago, he had used his best endeavours to apply a re medy to the administrative defects of that branch of the service, and subsequent experience had led him to believe that the remedy had been found effectual. The hon. gen tleman had said that the present system was rotten at the core, and had dwelt particularly on the abuse of patron age. Well, take the present accountant-general of the Ad miralty, Mr. Bromley. When he was First Lord twenty years ago, that gentleman was a humble clerk, with a salary under 2006. a year. In consequence of his merit, he (Sir James Graham) promoted him to a higher situa tion ; and he had since, by his merit and that alone, risen to the post he now filled, with a salary of 1,4001. a year. He believed that a more meritorious and able public) servant than Mr. Bromley could not be found. The hon. gentleman had commented rather hastily on the deaf and dumb clerk. He was originally appointed as an act of charity, but his conduct was so exemplary, and his talent so great that when he (Sir J. Graham) was lately forming the transport board, this young man was, by the officers themselves, recommended for promotion as being one of the most meritorious employes in the office. He was the son of Sir William Napier, and he certainly did not think that, labouring as be did under the severe calamity with which he was afflicted, he ought to have been reflected upon in the manner in which he had been by the Len. gentleman. Mr. LINDSAY did not mean to cast any reflection on him. He was simply tracing the working of the system. Sir J. GRAHAM hoped that he had at all events dis proved the remarks of the hon. gentleman as to patronage, so far as the two persons to whom he particularly alluded went. Then the hon. gentleman said that the naval sys tem of accounts was a disgrace to the country and the age in which we lived. Now, the books were in fact kept ou the most perfect system of double entry, and, notwithstand ing the number of audits that were interposed for the pub lic protection, and the extensive nature of the transactions to which they related, they were kept more closely posted up than the accounts of any banker or merchant in the city of London. The system was originally, in part, borrowed from the Admiralty accounts in France, but he war told by his friend Sir G. Briggs, the late Accountant-General, with whom the merit of the system rested, that though he had originally gone to France to copy their system of accounts, they had since sent over hero to inspect ours, and had admitted that it was better than th e i rs . The hon. member had told the house that the number of steamers employed was very great, and ho (Sir J. Graham) admitted it ; but the hon. member had been just as well as generous, and had sufficiently answered many of the charges preferred in other quarters about tho errors com mitted in the transport service. The hon. gentleman had truly said that when the war broke out, the urgency of the service was great, and the tenders wore few. He know well that the price or a commodity must be regulated by the market price, and the hon. member acquitted them altogether of any error with respect to the amount of ton• nage. In reference to accusations made elsewhere, they hap received from the hon, gentleman a complete acquittal. It was true that with regard to some points the hon. mem ber thought they were wrong. Re said there was a want of a well regulated system, and he stated that with the large number of ships employed there ought to have been a greater number of voyages outward:'and homeward, and that an infinitely larger amount of service might have been performed than was performed. Now, the house must re member what had been really clone within the last twelve months. They had conveyed a distance of 3,000 miles from this country somewhere about 59,000 or 60,000 regu lar troops of all arms, 6,000 horses, a large train of artil lery, all the guns both for the field and battering train, all the forage necessary for the horses, and the ra tions both for the fleet and army. They had also con veyed 15,000 French troops from the south of France to the Crimea, with a considerable number of horses, and they also had conveyed from Varna to the Crimea 40,000 Turks and 6,000 horses, and they had undertaken the continued supply of that force in the Crimea. They had conveyed to the Baltic 15,000 men, making in all some where about 100,000 men conveyed, and somewhere about 8,000 or 9,000 horses, besides keeping up the supply of rations almost daily for somewhere near 100,000 noon, con veyed 3,000 miles. The hon. member asked why they did not move the ships backwards and forwards. The ne cessity of the service rendered that movement impossible. No doubt there was expense attendant upon the system adopted, and that demurrages arose in consequence of it; but when was an army trusted at ouch a distance from the country without the means of re-embarkation? Look to what had been done with respect to the Peninsular army. (Hoar, hear.) When the Duke of Wellington with a tri umphant force maintained the lines of Torres-Vedra.s, to the renown of the army and of his country to the latest times, he never thought of not having within the Tagus the whole number of transports necessary to convey that army from the country, (Hear.) So also in the China and Burmese wars. Having sent out the troops by sea ordinary precaution and prudence pointed out the necessity of hav ing the means at hand of re-embarkation. From time to time they were pressing upon the naval commander-in-chief, in June, July, and August, to send back to this country some of the steamers. The British army was at that time in Bulgaria, but the resolution having been taken to remove the army from Bulgaria to the Crimea, the orders sent from this country to send home some of the steamers were set aside by the generals and admirals in the exercise of a wise discretion. The steamers were detained in Bulgaria, and the great operation of removing the troops from Bul garia to Eupatoria was effected with the most signal suc cess, and without the loss of any considerable number of men or horses in doing so. During the advance of the army from Eupatoria to Balaklava, and the occupation of the ground in front of Sebastopol, a considerable time was occupied, and during that time it was not thought expe dient to send th e stamers back. The house would re member that the British army had only one point of com munication with the sea—a small port without the means of landing er placing in store anything that was sent from this country in the shape of supplies. It was, therefore, necessary to keep a large portionof the munitions and sup plies on board ship. Then sickness arose, and there was a demand for the steamers to convey the sick and wounded from the Crimea to Constantinople and more distant sta tions. Then there was this other demand upon the ser vice. Their great ally, the French, had abundance of troops, but not having the same command of steam-ves sels as they had, naturally and justly called upon them to nid them, and 20,000 men were sent from Marseilles in British steamers. More lately the noble lord at the head of the Government had brought down a message from her Majesty, by which the obligation was taken to remove 15,000 Piedmonteso troops to the Crimea. The great operation of moving the army of Omer Pacha to Eupatoria had just been accomplished, and 40,000 troops had been carried there in British steamers. The hon. member said that little bad been done, but he (Sir J. Graham) hoped the house would agree with him in think ing that by their officers in the Black Sea, and particularly by Sir Edmund Lyons, much had been done. His hon. friend had referred to the meritorious services of Captain Milne, and he (Sir J. Graham) thought the duties that had been performed could not be done wore it not for the in defatigable energy of that officer. It would be impossible, however, for him to perform permanently the heavy duties devolving on him ; and if such were not the case he would not have recommended the formation of the Transport Board. But Captain Milne was overworked ; it was im possible for one man to continue to perform the labour, and therefore it was that he (Sir J. Graham) thought it prudent to constitute that board. In general he was not in favour of the principle of divided responsibility, but when there were contracts to the amount of 5,000,0001., there was safety in multiplying the checks, consequent upon the division of contracts so entered into for so large an amount, and he (Sir J. Graham) was of opinion that though an exception to the rule it was a wise exception. It was useful to have on that board a combination of ele ments by appointing upon it a naval officer and a gentle man connected with tho merchant service; it would be strictly confined to the war, and with the termination of the war would terminate the existence of this board. Mr. ALCOCK begged, pursuant to notice, to call the at tention of the house to the state of the war in the Black S aa. Ho complained that they had not taken possession of Anapa, and secured the assistance of the people of the Cahcasus. He was convinced that if Lord Aberdeen had the bad luck to be the Minister of Russia he would have been exiled to Siberia in consequence of the incomptence that had been displayed in carrying on the war. If they had a force of 50,000 Caucasiar s assistieg them in therrimea it would prove to them of tho greatest advantage. They had obtained, 15,000 from Sardinia, but for one-folirtl4 of tho IMO sum which they spoke of advancing they would obtain from Persia an army of 40,000 men. He begged that the Government would take the subject to which his observa tions had referred into their consideration. (Hear.) Sir S. NORTCOTE said it was impossible not to see that immense exertions had been made by the Govern ment and by the country to carry on the war, and that, in spite of those exertions, there existed a great and growing dissatisfaction at the failures which had taken place. Many of those failures would have excited much loss attention if it had not been that the people iu this country were in the habit of meeting small adventures which had given an un favourable impression of the state of the public ser dee. He wished to impress on the Government the necessity of losing no time in introducing such improvements into the civil service as would secure for it a bettor name than it at present enjoyed. He believed that the civil service possessed immense merits, and contained men willing to perform any amount of work thrown upon them, but there were defects in the organisation of that service which rendered the services of those men loss valuable than they ought to be. There were in many depart ments a considerable number of men receiving salaries varying in amount from 801. to 300/. a year who were not worth their salt, while there were others doing an enormous amount of work. The Goverment ought to make such a distribution of the work as would enable them to employ educated men upon work suited to the education which they had received. By so doing they would not only eflect a saving of labour, but would attract to the public service men of a superior order. (Eleer.) Captain SCOBELL said that within the last four years there had been four First Lords of the Admiralty and as many Secretaries, and it could not be expected that a board could work well when it was subjected to so many changes. It was a matter of astonishment to him that the transports in the Black Sea had not cart ied over snore French troops. If those transports had been properly used they V, ould have donedouble the work which they had performed. The great error in the transport service had been the want of a super intendent to stow away the different articles and give a pro per account of them. Many vessels had gone to Belakleva and sailed from that place with things on board which were required by our troops. But the greatest defect was that the steamers for the conveyance of the sick were not fitted up for the purpose. He trusted that the Transport Board would take greater care for the future, and that some man would be placed at the head of it with sufficient power to decide and give orders as to what ought to be done. Mr. CAYLEY said that last year the estimate for the transport service amounted to something like 2,600,000/., and now about 4,000,0001. more was required. The estimate wesone of a most profuse nature, considering the mode in which the transport service had been carried on. For the estimate of 2,600,0001. the total tonnage employed, inde pendent of coal, was 95,000; mad the coal tonnage amounted to 158,754. Now, the rate of tonnage was not more than from 21. to 3/. Indeed for the last seven mouths the rate of freight to Australia had been only 2/. ss. There was a great want of responsibility with regard to the transport service. Now, as that service was under the control of the Admiralty, he thought the right hon. baronet (Sir James Graham) was the party really responsible. Again, with regard to the coaling department of the transport service, nothing could have been more disgracefully mismanaged. At Constantinople transports had to wait for days and weeks without being able to get their necessary supplies of fuel, while, when they did succeed in getting them, the cost was so high that it was perfectly astounding. For in stance, coal, which could easily have been procured for 4/. a ton, was charged 71. or 81. per ton, and there were other charges incidental to the coaling of an equally extravagant nature. Allied to the defects and shortcomings of the trans port service was the want of land transport. Here again was to be traced the evils of mismanagement ; horses dying from the want of medicines or forage, which could easily have been procured bat for the stupidity of obstinate offi cials in high command, and our gallant soldierssuffering the most excruciating agony from the want of that medicial as , sistanoe which was at hand on the coast of the Crimea, but could not reach the spot where suffering called for it for the want of a proper land transport. Many of these abuses would have remained undiscovered had it not been for the vigilance of the gentlemen who represented the press at the seat of war; indeed, he believed that, but for their ex posures, the whole army would have been left to perish of want, neglect, and privation ; but after all he had now stated- -after the immense sums which had been spent upon the transport service—after the admitted fact that a third of that expenditure at least might have been saved by judi cious management, he did hope those gentlemen who took an interest in the public expenditure—whose absence he regretted to observe then—would take an early opportunity of contrasting their gigantic expenditure upon the traps pert service with that of our gallant allies the French. The people of the country did not grudge a single shilling. They desired to carry on the war to a successful issue, but they wanted their money's worth. He did not think they got their money's worth. The system pursued by the late - Government in sending out the expedition into the Black Sea was one of ruinous extravagance. If the affairs of the public had been carried on as a private firm conducted theirs, it was quite evident that the o, erations of the war would have been conducted at a much less expense. He had heard that the feeding of the men cost 11. a day, whilst the firm of Baines and Co., of Liverpool, had offered to do so at 3s. 6d. a head per day ; and he thought that Government had done wrong to reject this offer. If Government had conducted this department in an exem plary manner, it would have been a different question. Had it never occurred to the First Lord of the Admiralty that as the navy for 50 years had been supplied with limo juice, it was expedient to supply the army in such circum stances with a supply of limo juice also. Messrs. Baines said they should require foul steamers of 1,200 tons, he believed, to supply the whole of the army with their sup plies, and four more steamers, as he understood, for the supply of fresh meat. Under this view he thought that the house could not but ask, what was all this enormous tonnage required for ? To close the case of the transports, Mr. Green said that during the time the Resolute was in the service of Government she was three months in port and two months at, sea. He complained also that in all the operations of the war nothing was done in time. Government seemed to be moving by mechanical action, by which what was gained in rapi lity was lost in power. In another caso, the transports went out without any moans of embarking guns or cavalry. Mr. Roberts, a mas ter, invented, at his own ex p ense , a most ad mirabhe method for doing this. He was a mas t er only. (Question.) Did the hon. member know that the question was the ad ministration of this service ? A batter officer could not be; but whether he had his promotion, he did not know. In his case, promotion perhaps was not an advantage, and ho took the opportunity to protest against this nominal promotion, which left a man in a worse position than ho was before. He thanked the hon. member who had brought forward the motion for having done so, and he thought that the misfortunes of the army in the Crimea were prin cipally owing to the transport service. He trusted that the Government of the noble lord would take warning by their predecessors, and would insist upon the duties of every department being carried on in a more efficient man ner than had hitherto been the case. It would be some thing in favour of the war if out of the present chaos, the result of official incompetence, official incapacity, and drivelling formalism, there should arise a system of effi ciency order, and vigour —something which would, when it was required, stand the test of examination and of ac tion—something more than a solemn sham and a gigantic imposture. Mr. BENTINCK said that the right hon. baronet the mem ber for Carlisle seemed to suppose that in forming a Trans port Board for the purpose of effecting a division of labour, it was also necessary to create a division of re sponsibility. Now, ho thought no such alternative ex isted, for responsibility might have been maintained although the labour was divided. So long as they continued this system of divided responsibility, so long would they have the duties of the service inefficiently performed. He was glad to have heard it stated in the course of that debate that administrative reforms were contemplated; he trusted that amongst those re forms they would have to reckon the discontinuance of that system which had existed in this country from time immemorial—namely, that of placing civilians at the heed of the naval and military departments. (Hear, hear.) They might rely on it so long as that system was main tained that the duties of neither one or the other would be efficiently conducted. He cared not how great might be the administrative ability of any individual, if ho was not thoroughly conversant with all the details of the profes sion in which he was appointed to preside—whether it -was from his habits, his education, or his pursuits; all his efforts on behalf of the service must prove ab ortive. The system was to place men at the head of the army who were not capable of managing a corporal's guard, and at the head of the navy persons incapable of taking charge of a coaster. He could mention the following case as illustrative of the position which he had assumed; and ho would do so the more readily as he saw the right hon. baronet the member for Carlisle in his place. It would be in the recollection of the house that upon a former occasion, when the right hon. baronet the late First Lord of the Admiralty having replied to a question which had been put to him—and he (Mr. Ben thick) would direct particular attention to the fact that the statement was volunteered, and showed that the right hon. baronet considered the fact of importance—well,laving so replied to the question put to him, the right hon. baronet proceeded to say that he would take that opportunity of adverting to certain rumours that were in circulation rela tive to the loss of the Prince transport, outside the harbour of Belaklava. He then referred to certain reports in the newspapers, to the effect that the Prince had been lost in consequence of her chains not having been properly clinched ; whereupon he informed the house that the chains of the Prince had been properly clinched, and that the loss of that vessel could not be attributed, therefore, to no such cause. Well, having taken a great deal of interest id the matter, he confessed at the time he was not a little sur prised at such a statement coming from the right hon. baro net ; still he hesitated, not feeling himself fully informed, to slake notice of it. Bence, only a very few days ago, he happened to obtain possession of a document which confirmed in the fullest manner the impressiOn which he entertained at that time. It would appear that so far from the facts being as stated by the right hon. baronet, he was himself completely misinformed upon the subject. He held in his hand a description,, a sketch of the manner in which the chain cables of the Prince were clinched, which he would be most happy to place in the hands of the right hon. baronet or any other member, and it would convince them that the chains were clinched in so imperfect a manner as to account for the loss of the vessel and of her anchors. And in corroboration of that fact it was stated that the Perseverance—a vessel which had been performing lately certain rather curious gyrations in Wool wich Dockyard—had her chain clinched iu a similar manner to the Prince ; but on the news of the disaster relative to the transport reaching this country, the atten tion of the authorities was directed to that fact, and the chains were clinched in an efficient manner. Now he need not remind the house that the right hon. baronet had had the most ample means of obtaining information upon this subject; however, naturally taking the report drawn up for him as correct, he made no further inquiries. But if the right hon. gentleman had been a professional man ho would have asked one more question, and which would have relieved him from the necessity of making such a statement to the House of Commons—he would have said, " Show me how these chains are clinched." Now that, perhaps, might be a trifling instance of the conse quences of their system ; still, trifling as it was, it showed that even if a man were as distinguished for his talents as the right hon. baronet, it was impossible for him to con duct the affairs of a service with which be could not, by' any possibility, be conversant. As ho had said, therefore, he hoped that when this milennium was come, about the first of these administrative reforms would be made in this direction. But he also understood the right hon. baronet to have dissented from some statements with respect to a cargo of boots and shoes. Now, although be was unable to contradict the right hon. baronet, he might men tion another case of mismanagement, which did go to prove that such an occurrence was by no means impos sible. The Kangaroo, transport, had started from Yarns for Eupatoria with the rest of the fleet, a portion of the Coldstream Guards being on board. When the troops landed at Eapatoria the Kangaroo was ordered round to Balaklava with the knapsacks of the regiment. Well, sh e proceeded to Balaklava, Ant from thence she was des patched upon some other irr, without the knamoka hdrv. , ing been landed, to return to Balaklava in about a montA, the knapsacks still on board, but the whole or nearly the whole of them broken open, and their contents removed or destroyed. Now ) though the story of the boots and shoes might be denied, there could be no doubt whatever as to the accuracy of the statement he had jest made. (Hear.) Admiral BERKELEY said that the instance brought forward by the hon. member to prove that the First Lord of the Admiralty ought not to be a civilian was a very un fortunate one, because it did so happen that the right hon. baronet had made every inquiry into the fast as to whether or net the cables of the unfortunate Prince were clinched. They were not clinched, but the owner of the ship and the men who had lashed the cables round the ship's masts had put in their affidavits to prove that the ship had been pro perly lashed and secured. With regard to the complaint made by the hon. member for the East Riding (lfr. Cay ley) that Mr. Roberts had not been promoted, it was only necessary for him to state that, solely on account of his merit, he had been appointed by the First Lord of the Ad miralty to one of the best situations which it was possible for a master in the navy to attain. Mr. J. M'GREGOR thought that the whole of our public departments required to be reorganised in such a manner as would put an end to that system of blundering which had been lately E 0 much shown up, and which no minister could prevent, because ho could only give instructions and directions' without being able to see them carried into effect. The manner in which the various supplies had been put on board ship never could be justified. Thins that aught to have gone out in ono shiu had been in many in stances divided amongst two or three. He thought the country were greatly indebted to the hon. member for having brought the question forward. Mr7BROUN thoirght all the evils had arisen from the false system upon which the contracts had been made for this service. The French system made service the essence of the contract; and though the French paid p ton as we did, they gave a premium to the vessel and master equal to 11. per ton if the voyage was made in a certain number of days. The house might be surprised to learn that while the cast of transporting one emigrant from this country to Australia was only 101., exclusive of food, the cost of transporting soldiers from Liverpool to the Crimea was at the rate of 1501. per head. The other day a ship was sent to Dublin to take out a hussar regiment. It was fitted up to accommodate 400 soldiers ; it had lain 45 days in Dublin ; it had taken in 20 men and 15 horses, and the cost of transmitting them would be' 3001. for each horse, and 1501. per man. If this vessel bad been intended for emigrants it would have been fitted to convey only 300, but as a transport for troops it had been fitted to carry 400; so that each soldier had less accommodation than an emigrant would have had, and yet the cost of transport per head was far greater than that paid for emigrants. The transport service had been conducted in a slovenly manner, and in a way disgraceful to the public service. Colonel KNOX said, that after the "bumptious" chal lenge offered by the Secretary of the Admiralty, he widred to make a few observations as to the transport service, and more particularly with reference to ono vessel which had been mentioned—the Kangaroo. As the discussion was on he wished to put it to the noble lord at the head of the Government, whether the officers wore to be compensated for the loss of their effects. There was ono officer in par ticular who lost to the value of 2001., and was compelled . . to go to the same expense over again. He did not think it fair that those gentlemen should be permitted to lose the value of those things, and that the culprits, whoever they might be, should go scot free. He was one of those who attributed the whole mischief and misery of that army to the transport service, and ho charged the whole of the evil at the door of Admiral Boxer. Would it be believed that instead of removing• that officer altogether the Government merely changed him to another station, where he would have every opportunity of making things worse? The right hon. baronet could have easily learned that a number of transports were lying idle at the Bos phorus doing nothing. At a time when their services were BO much required, there were 60 at least lyinc , idle there. When a man at the head of a department had acted so im properly, the Government, instead of removing him, placed him in a situation where he would •be capable of doing more mischief. Sir C. WOODileprecated the language used by the hen. and gallant gentleman in respect to the absence of the Secretary of the Admiralty. The Government thought that Admiral Boxer was the most proper officer they could place at Balaklava, and every report they had received from that place had proved that the appointment was most excellent, inasmuch as he had effected the greatest improvement in that place. He did not regret that the subject of the trans port service had been brought before the house, inasmuch as the discussion had elicited facts which showed that the arrangements made by the Government were most satisfac tory. It was thought desirable to retain the transports at the Bosphorous, under the impression that they would be wanted from time to time to proceed from ono place to another in the Black Sea. The) were retained by the wish and at the desire of the generals of the army.there, who thought it necessary that they should be at a moment ready to afford their services, if they should be required. The base of our operations being the sea, it was essen tially necessary that we should have every means of tran sit at our command. When a charge was made which could be tested it was invariably found to be utterly unfounded. It was, however, very difficult to meet general accusations. It was stated that the medical stores were placed under the ordnance stores in the Prince—the contrary, however, was the fact. The transport service was based on a peace establishment, and no doubt when war ensued it was found unequal to its duties. But a board had since been organised, which it was anticipated would effect all that was required of it. He would just remark, of the many thousand tons shipped by the Admiralty, that not a single parcel had gone wrong. He admitted that defects might and did exist, but nothing should be spared to make the service as efficient and as perfect as possible. Colonel KNOX apologised for his allusion to the Secre tary of the Admiralty. Mr. DUNDAS gave an instance of bad stowage in the case of the Tynemouth. The house then went into committee of supply. Mr. WILSON postponed the Newspaper Postage and Stamp Duties Bill till Monday. The Militia (Ireland) Bill was read a third time and passed. The house adjourned at five minutes past one. -ARMY BEFORE SEBASTOPOL COll 1111'1'TE E. (Continued from our first edition of yesterday.) Mr. S. G. Osborne—Examination continued.—Mr, Layard called the witness's attention to a letter from Mr. Read, the apothecary at the general hospital deny. ing that there was any want of medical stores or sun gical instruments there. . _ _ The witness (the Hon. S. G. Osborne) said un doubtedly before I came away I saw a large quantity of medical stores at that hospital, but I could not say it was a sufficient supply ; this I know that the Times fund supplied ca3tor oil. I cannot tell whether Mr. Read attended the barrack hospital as well as the general hospital, I cannot tell whether applications were made to Mr. Macdonald for medical stores for the general hospital. I know I took many applications from Miss Nightingale to Mr. Macdonald for medical stores and comforts. Dr. Smith, in his evidence yesterday, stated Dr. Hall visited the hospitals at Scutari in September, and he said the hospitals, considering the difficulties, were in as good a state as could be expected. What do you say to that ? Witness—Why, then, Dr. Hall must be ono who expects very little. Surely the state of the privies was anything but proper. I have not been in many Armenian houses besides hotels ; but the state of the French hospital and the naval hospital afforded a strik ing contrast to those at Scutari. I have seen a great ninny bedsteads lying Unused in the barrack, and I was told they could not be used, as the mattresses were too large for them. By Mr. Ellice—Undoubtedly Dr. Hall should have made provision for the accommodation of the sick and wounded ; and I believe that the stores which Mr. Macdonald purchased could have been got by the pur veyor if he had applied to Lord Redcliffe. - By Mr. Layard—The Russian prisoners I have spoken of were in the barrack hospitai. I can't say whether they were our prisoners or those of the Turks ; they were I think under the charge of a commission, of whom Admiral Boxer was one. There were some Crim Tartars among them, who are our friends. There was an English sentry put over them inside, and Turkish sen tries outside ; the French put no sentries over their prisoners. It was Turkish soldiers who carried the Russian prisoners down to the ship. I can't say if they were sufficiently supplied with food or not. I only know that Dr. Smith told me he could not gc t prepared chalk for them. There were only two interpreters for the whole hospital establishment at Scutari. I supplied that with medical comforts out of a private fund of my own. Lord Stratford never refused any applica tion made to him that I know of ; Lady Redcliffe told me she had several times asked Dr. Menzies if anything was required for the hospital, and he said there was not ; except at last, he said, there were some bedsteads required. I have no doubt there is not a man in her Majesty's- service works harder than herd Redcliffe; I think clearly it was no part of Lord Redcliffe's duty to act as commandant or purveyor to the hospitals. I only knoie he told me himself, and Lord Clarendon told me, that he had the power to get anything that was required for the hospitals. I have no doubt if a fit person had been sent out from England to superintend the hospitals at Scutari they might have been made what they ought to be. I think but for the Times' fund, Miss Nightingale, and myself, the condition of the hospitals would have been most disastrous. Un doubtedly the force of public opinion did lead to im provements at those hospitals. He had never been able to account for the scarcity of -stores. In fact, he entertained doubts if all of them had been sent out from England. The matter, however, would not ba satisfactorily cleared until it was put in the hands of a very different inquiry than any of which he had heard. The Chairman—You mean the hands of the police ? (Laughter.)—Yes. Th - e Conimittee then adjourned until Monday. THE STRIKE OF LORD VERNON'S COLLIERS. strike (says the Manchester Examiner) still continues. The turn-outs hold meetings daily, at which violent lan guage against the " knobsticks" is indulged in. A few of the turn-outs have returned to their work, bat there is no immediate prospect ‘ of the strike coming to an end. Some of the colliers have loft the neighbourhood, and gone to look for employment elsewhere. The neigh bouring colliers are subscribing for the support of the turnouts, about forty of the principal of whom have been served with notices to leave their cottages. [ADVERTISEMENT]. —HoIIoway's Ointment and Pills unrivalled remedies for the cure of skin diseases.--Mr. Wm. Walker, boot and shoemaker, Hayfield, suffered for more than t wo years f ro th dreadful scorbutic humours in both his legs, which extenJel from the knee to the foot, and formed one complete sore ; the pain also was most excruciating, and, notwithstanding he tried various re medies, they became wo rse an d worse un til h e thought' mortification would take place. At this critical juncture he commenced using Holloway's ointment and pills which speedily cured his legs, and his health has since become far better than ever it was before. Sold by all medicine vendors, and at Professor Holloway's establishments, 244, Strand, London, and 80, Maiden lane, New York. -U MINNINIIMII COUNTBY VAREETS. LIVERPOOL—K.IRM 23. alers At to-day's market the attenda nce of millers and den, fior d _. was fair, and we had more looking aft er wheat a , and but but the firmness of holders was a chock on, business what transactions took place were at quite ash P r o , l o c ,, od A e l as were current on Tuesday. Indian corn in g" e and 6d per qr. higher. No change in other articles. --- WAKEFIELD---11..tRou 23. a re Tho weat trade is slow to -daY, and whet* _, pressed a h decline of is per yr . f rom last week 's rat. lo be conceded. Barley a fair d em and, at ful l P riced ' material change iu oats, beans, and shelling. ---- EXETER—MA.Iton 21. 86 91 CORN.—In our market wheat may be quoted from ,0 5 to Oi Od. Malting - barley, 38 Sd to 4s Od • gr th tlxi t:0 03 Od to Os OL. Oats, 3s Oil to 36 6d. moa ns , Od. Peas, ON Od to GOs Od FLOUR. —:Fine, 51s Ocl to . 52s Od ; seconds , 493 Od to s° ' Od per sack. CATTLE.—Prime beef, 10a Od per score ; cows and c e :d o n n es g 11/. to 12Li; butchers' calves 5d to Oil per lbl r o d to I ca B l s ve t s o o: s to ; 00s each. Sheep, 6it to 60. 1 4 31 r s b'pg, Pork carcases from 8a Od per lb. Store ho A large size, 41s to 50s each ,',, r lb h score. 41' 1— s t) , Lt w o , 9 0 :0 . 4 • per it° u s cthr INVERNESS.—MARCH 2 0 . a 13 0- CORN. —Wheat, white, per qr., " 65e Od to 68 3 .Od to ley, chevalier, 27s Od to 28s Od ; ditto, common, 278 Od. Oats, 26s Od to 1 P. o 23 s 11 tO OS 1. SOCOOd, 008 to Os Ocl ; barleymeal, 163 sa 9 t,' MEAL.—Oatmeal, per " in l i s ' b . 11 44.1 to 243 ; a il ? ; peasemeal, 17s 6d to Os Od ; bran, per stone , v s 0 1s o t s fl o o d ur ; , poaertm2eBaoll,b,bseosst,Odperto at. of 001;12411b 46 6 Ci d to Os Od ; ditto second, Os Oct to Os Oct ; WIW I ; 0,1 cases to ON Od ; peasemeal, is 8d to Os 04 ; Ist floor, 3s 6d credit; 2d ditto, 2s 6d cash, 2s 9d credit.. 21: 66,1 BRISTOL SITG.A.R—AIAnCII 23. , w bich Our stocks are again low, and the limited extent 'c'eventea sales to the brok any extent er' offices are R efi sup ned goods m ee plied with sampt wit' - les 1.13,.' ‘ P r 00/ . demand, at about late values. ;T.—Aleacu 23. • ihe close of the Oar" Wallseuar iz ° ' 0 , a. A 0 ~ A fletton ................. ...... 40 6 ............. 17 li e tt o n Lyons Maio ...... 17 Penslier .............. .. Plummer . . ............ 6 Russell's Baton .......... south Hettou ............ 24).1 3tevrart's . ................... 9 0 _ Whitwell ........... . ...... 1 7 6_ Cassop .. . . . ............ Ueugh Half. ................ 17 ll7 South Hello° ........ ...... P Tees ...................... 0 Covrpeu ............... is Derwentwater. COAL MARIE' Prices of Coal per ton at t' d. s. OUT'S Hartley lB 0 Holywe11.. Howard's West Hartley Netherton 17 f Tanfield Moor l6 C Walker Primrose l6 3 Grey's West Hartley lB_ 6 Wylam 20 Wallsend, ke. Bell and Brown 16 C Heaton Hilda 15 ( Lawson l5 Northumberland E. 16 9 Riddell l6 6 Eden Main 18 6 • COURSE OF EXCHANGE.- - - -V" STODA ... ••• 3 0 50 Amsterdam ........ 11 18 , Gibraitar. ..... ** 55 6° Ditto, three months .. 11 Legt orn • • "...... •• ••-• Rotterdam .... .. Antwerp .............. 25 40 3/Man •• **.... .• •• Brussels .............. 25 40 i Venice.. • • ****. .•••• ** j3l ilarnbargh • 13 7 1 ,4 Naples -• •• ••* .. ••• ~ Alton ................ Palermo •• ' • ...... 5341 Paris ........ .. • • .... 25 20 I Messina •• • .... •••• 534 Ditto, three months .. 25 47 1 ,4' Lisbon .• ..... ••• Marseilles .............25 47% Oporto •• ....... .••••* Bourdeaux • ........ Rio Janeiro ..... • . • •* t Fr ankfort•on Maine .. 119% Buenos .Alre s ,:,,*„;;'l3l9' -- Berlin ...... — New Yoit• 6 " -* •• ••" 00• Vienna • • .... 12 40 Philadelphi& • t oi4 ji Ora 0 Trieste........ •• •• wn 12 42 Pa g 0 , v. ,t % Petersburg 35 Foreign Gol4 , ags u 4 Madrid ............... 40 Portugal Gad ea • o 0 Cadiz ........ • • Barcelona r•INv •• . Seville.. •• Silver in bars ' • SEABORNE MAILS: s i root x e ff ----- (N signifies that the mails are sent from the GAI er _________./ 437 the night—and Mby the morning—ElesPate l " ) pi t s From wl ' t " ., e 4A fort P%," pisiLitchou• .......7,0 ------". Alel' ------• Liverpool •" . 1 ,i, 0 I ' OA I Liverpo ol ". ' southaniP t 00 COUNTRIES. I ga r° • ISouthAmpton 'Doves •"1" troc er ll igarGl3 .• PlYni °uth Do ver •• :1 0 ,1 Sooth au* lton Dove r SouttoooPronl Sou th3l :orts , southsroptoo 16 31104 F !' S ~ 3 O U aFnptOl~ 2 , fa rcl3 0 Day when made U! in General Po.q- Office, London.' Every Friday .. America(bynrit.pack)N AmericP. (by United Sts. packet) ..........N America (by U. States packet) ..........N Australia (via South ampton) ..........M Ditto (via Marseilles) N Ditto (via Cape of Good Hops) Africa (West Coast)..N Alexandria.......... N Alexandria........ „if Bahamas ........... Belgium Brazil ..............M' Buenos Ayres Cape of Good Hope Cape of Good Hope ..11 Cape de Verds ......N Ceylon (see India) Ceylon „N Channel Isles China . Constantinople ......N Csnstantlimple ........ Cont. of Enrope M & N Egypt (seo India) Fri..nee ........ M & N Gibraltar .55 Jrreeee (see India) Greytown ........ „ '5l 2nd & 17th of mon Elamburgh ........., N Tuesday & Friday favannah .......... 31 1 20 of the month Holland MiDatly Honduras 1' 17th of the. montb !, .' (ladle (vittSouth nmpt.) M 4th & 20th oi mon. India (via 3larsoif`es)M,9th&2sthofnonih lonian Isles (see India) 7, 17, & 27 of mon Ireland . .... _3l & N Twice daily Lisbon IM 7,9, 17, & 27 of in Madeira 9th of the month Madeira 23d o! month • • Malta (seo India) !alta 8,18, &28 of mon. Mauritius (see India) Mauritius 14th of the month( Mexico ..... of the month So l 2l. • —` Naples., I bth 16 th2s thofraor ,Do l ,,cr "'.on New Granada ...... '2d & 17th of month Solioa l- „`;rt , New Zestant........ By private skip lVari Pcs r - Papal States ..,.....,N sthlsth2sthotinon Dove* •:,„1 0 ri, Peninsula ..........5[ Ithi7th27thoftnon LSout l2lo ", o , l,,,,tio lft Peru ..M 17d & 27th of mou 'isouilla i tats v" - Port Natal ......N 'By private ship. „ ~Varlo ll3 , Sicily .. ....N 5 ttilsth2sthotmon, Dover •••• 0 1 6 Tuscany .... N sthlsth2sthofmon. Dover ____••i i ;is 6 Venezuela 2d 17th of monthiSoutlemw Van Diemen's Land (see (4 ,16 Australia) , teo !P r West Indies II& 17th o I monthliouth atoP THE LAST PARISIAN CALEMBOURG. ~„ unchanged and unchanzeable. N o w, al in d ltrir Fronde, a pointed epigram reconciles theta t,° r th eor y Their most serious grievance under the einP!,? 7 o( l °lol' anity of their journals. Bat an e pigran 3l : o3tl ; o f o, 4te ot consoles them for the privation. The runw e e . t he,% r e' pedal visit to the East has supplied matter I:0 of these calemboargs. The Parisians sal • ' ,, o poir ratrice va it Jerusalem en, Pelerine dan s 10' r revenir en Sainte (enceinte)," Pt if 10 ° THE NEW BILL ON NEWSPAPER STA- - ep d the v ro• Yesterday the new bill was printed "to n el r e4 lo l relating to the stamp duties on newspa pers! ed p en sor e. vide for the transmission by post of prni v t b e ele s o t publications." There are thirteen clausee!; From and after Vie pam-inc , of the act, ` .l irl eige ti d , for compulsory (except for the purpose of fre e sts feP e o ete , by post) to print any newspaper on paPe r po lveP denoting the duties imposed by the law on o f ll e ; f ing and no person shall be subject or liable tl e or r rio dr or forfeiture for printing, publishing, ee, 11 „„ 134 Fled In his possession any unstawped publienu -* t ° cal publications printed on stamps to be „0 ent',ertiO post free of postage. Periodical pulilicn" t :i for free transmission by post, to be OP • diCal POO i° limitations and conditions Specified. tions may be registered at the inland W I ; Pe.;pre, the same manner as newspapers s ref, s io• quired to be. The printer and publisitergriter:ci pr periodicals are to enter into sureties as if.leirittltor ct libel. Paper is to be theirsstaed for foe", oroP" f alie v : riodical publications at quest Of the ie printer. Discount to be allowed on atai"P or iti, ayt the On refusal to renew the registration and se e ste r6d . o leg e may be refused. Newspapers may be r e f n i the,,r g ri co (ll ;: General Post-office, to entitle the san 3 e.„* - foro?'," of transmission abroad under treaties wit" 'polo" tries. Transmission allowed by post of P r the t° to or y, , to foreign countries. Power is to be giv* Treo r e master-General, with the consent of the, et reCt• ,ith make .regulations for carrying the sot ity T be ~ riodical publications sent by post not in .3 ,., - 05 0g, e 'csiP e ; the act are to be charged letter rates c" r ce"6ot !test term " periodical publications " is to ms s slo and every printed work published " .... 7 intery ceeding thirty days. '23d of the month.. ' , 8,9,24,&300fin. 4th & 20th of mon.' 17th of the month Dai1y............ 19th of the month.. 12th of the month • •1 9th of the month Mon ..IWed.,&Fri 3 . ld 17th of month Once n month .• • • 8,13,18,23,a28 °UT' 4th x 20th of mon. 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