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t , . , , r 4 xbittkkill SUN- OFFICE, Seven o' Clock. SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS. FROM TUE EVENING PAPERS OF THIS D AY. GLOBE.—The changed position of Sir Robert Peel, from leader of the Opposition to head of the Go vernment, has involved him with the ultras of his party with reference to what he has done, and what he has not done, in his new character. This has already, to a considerable extent, had the effect of undeceiving their hope arid of shaking their attachment. Another occasion of discord in the matter of Church Extension by Parliamentary grants from the national revenue, still remains. Sir Robert Peel's silent and sulky vote on Sir R. 11. Inglis's motion in the last P a rliament, was anything but satisfactory to the Oxford Baronet, and those who regard him as leader of the Church militant in the House of Commons. Still it was hoped that that vote, constrained as it was, might be taken as a pledge of better things to come. At the last election, therefore, the High-Church party lifted up their ban ners in his name, and zealously beat up for votes in fa vour of his candidates. If Sir R. Peel were placed in office, by a Tory majority returned to the House of Commons, the waste places of the National Church would be restored, by the erection of new churches and large additions to the established clergy, at the national expense. The good old times would be re vived ; when the nation was church-ridden, and Toryism was the creed, religious and political; the • articles of which were imposed as the terms of civil privileges in :this world, and 'enforced as essential to happiness in the next. The organs of the party to which such expectatiors were held out and such arguments ;applied, begin to suspect that gross deception was practised upon their simplicity ; and, as a matter of course, .to complain of and to resent it. The last Session of Parliament passed over without any allusion to the grand scheme of im posing new taxes upon the entire nation, already over burdened and crushed to the very earth by the extent and severity of commercial distress, to supply the deficiency of church accommodation and religious instruction which the defective appropriation of the large revenues o: the Church had in part occasioned, and which the existing funds of the Church, if properly husbanded and applied, would go far to provide. The reason for this omission was suspected. It was shrewdly guessed that its introduction would provoke a discussion anything but - advantageous to the new Govern ment. It would compel the Premier to take a de cided course on a very difficult question. In avoiding Scylla he would run upon Charybdis ; for a middle course was impossible. He must either propose a grant, or oppose it, if moved for. Sir R. Inglis would fain have preserved his Right Hon. Friend at the head of the Government from the dangers which threatened him frcm the Church Ex tension scheme. This, however, was impossible. His own consistency must have been compromised by an abandonment of his project. He was pledged to bring it forward " under the happier auspices " of a new Parliament. He, however, gave the Premier "a long day," as the only favour he•could bestow. STANDARD.—Upon the House of Commons going into Committee on the Bill for the Queen's protection, Mr. Hume got up, with his usual feli city and characteristic good taste, to pronounce a coarse invective upon the lavish expenditure, as he affects to esteem it, of her Majesty's Court. " If anything," he said, " could be more dissatis factory to the great mass of the people than an other, it was to see, outside of the palace, squa lid poverty, misery, and wretchedness, in all their painful variety, and to Behold withinside the palace nothing." Mark, nothing—no sympathy for the Spitalfields' weavers—no effort for the relief of the Paisley sufferers—no gracious supplications from a Queen in behalf of her distressed subjects— " nothing but extravagance, gorgeous grandeur, and expensive finery." Having by this malignant contrast done his utmost to direct upon the Sove reign the worst feelings of the ignorant and un principled, the Member for Montrose expressed his approbation of the Bill for the protection of her Majesty. Sir Robert Peel, whether mildly or sar castically, suggested the hypothesis, that the Member for Montrose had mistaken the question before the House for a question of Supply, and exposed the folly of supposing any connexion between the Royal expenditure and the public distress. Sir Robert Inglis remonstrated against the ungracious ness of Mr. ,flume's speech upon such an occa sion, and destroyed Sir Robert Peel's charitable or ironical hypothesis of a mistake, by marking the expression by which Mr. Hume referred to the ques tion actually before'the House—an expression which will be found at the conclusion of his speech. Never theless, Mr. Hume and Mr. Williams, of Coven try, made a clumsy attempt to shelter the offen sive speech behind the pretence of a blunder. Ques tionless the occasion upon which Mr. Hume deli vered his gross attack upon the Queen adds to its ungraciousness ; but nothing can aggravate the wicked sedition of the words which we have quoted, or the utter falsehood of the inference to which these words were manifestly designed to lead. Words more e.7:activ calculated to raise up among the ignorant and thOughtless, profligate and despe rate, not mock, but real assassins, could not fall from the lips of man. The people are represented as ex posed to squalid misery and wretchedneSs in all their painful variety, the Queen is described as' indulging in extravagance, gorgeous grandeur, and expensive finery, revelling in epicurean luxury and its epicurean indifference. " Nothing" else is to be seen in the Palace. Her Majesty's painful discharge of the distracting duties of her high station, those noble efforts by which she has proved her constant and most affectionate sympathy with the wants of the humblest of her people, are all rejected from Mr. Hume's picture of his Sovereign—a picture sketched too on a day, or in a week (we may give up the inquiry as to the particular minute), when the question is raised by an unhappy necessity, how best her Majesty can be protected from personal danger. The Earl of Lincoln, in the course of a graceful speech mentioned a circumstance that may teach Mr. Hume that the Queen does sometimes think of other matters than extravagance, gorgeous grandeur, and finery. It appears that when the plan of Buckingham Palace was prepared in the reign of George the Fourth, a c h a p e l was forgotten—and at present the Royal Household have no place of worship nearer than the Chapel Royal, at St. James's, an occasion of much inconvenience in bad weather. The Queen, in consequence, resolved to supply this want, and that it might be supplied without any domes. kl n_pon the public, devoted to the purpose a grant made Tor the building of two con servatories. STATE OF TRADE IN SCOTLAND. (FROM A CORRESPONDENT.) The utter destitution of . the industrial classes here at this moment, in its harrowing details, exceeds be lief. Montrose, Perth, and Arbroath, exhibit fright ful evidence of ruined trade, in the condition of the working classes. In Aberdeen—though of compa ratively recent growth—the list of unemployed is swelling weekly, and has already attained an alarming appearance. Perhaps throughout Britain the present condition of Aberdeen—in its mark ed change, compared with the state of trade only a few months back, is without a parallel. In Paisley the all hut complete bankruptcy of the manufacturers and traders was only a prelude to the state of utter helplessness in which the labouring population appear to be ; and that state of destitution and misery is hardly credible. [he soup kitchens are sustained with difficulty ; and only exist through the immense sacrifices made by various charitable individuals in their regular donations. The relief list every week gives evidence of yet more serious barriers being in the way of raising the re quired amount to meet the necessary outlay. In Dun dee, owing to a great many of the staple articles of trade being shut out of the French market upon which Dundee mainly depends— the utmost stag nation pervades all branches of manufactures. The flax mills are closing ; and men and women crowd the streets in idleness, yet willing to toil. The town is canvassed every day for subscriptions in aid of the unemployed. labourers. In Glas gow the public works are closing. Cotton mills and other factories are only kept open half time, at serious loss to the manufacturers themselves. • Shop keepers and small manufacturers are in a like posi tion ; for the custom of the one is gone, and the latter have nothing to do. The busiest streets evince this fact to an extent almost beyond j belief. In nearly every str e et there are whole I rows of shops shut up, ;while those that are open scarcely draw as much, in retail, as will cover the expense of porters' wages for a single week ! All trades are suffering alike. In Edinburgh—although de pending more upon its local consumption' than any other source of revenue—the number of tradespeople out of work is very great, and daily increasing ; es pecially in such trades as printing, brassfounders, and tailors. A private letter from Ayrshire, dated July 12, tells a fearful tale of distress amongst the spinners and weavers of that quarter. The writer is a schoolmas ter. He says : " I hear that it is with the greatest difficulty and ex ertion the people of Paisley are kept quiet; and should something not be done immediately, we cannot but contemplate the most fearful consequences. Things are getting every day worse and worse I" ---- --- THE KNIGHTSBRIDGE COMPLETE SUFFRAGE As- FOCIATION.—This Association h e ld a mee ti ng l as t n i g ht a t Thornton's Coffee-house, Mr. Stempson was called to the chair. After the transaction of the ordinary busi ness, Mr. Westerton opened the discussion on the fol- What are th e b est means for inducing lowing question — " the middle classes to join the suffrage movement ?" The usual objecti,ms of the tradesmen who abstained from 'citing were stated and replied to by Mr. Westerton, when, on the motion of Messrs. Giffard and Watts, the discussion was adjourned to next Wednesday evening. IMPE RIA L 'PARLIAMENT. (THIS DAY.) • HOUSE OF I A QR_D.S. Their Lordships met at Five o'Clock. DEAN FOREST ECCLESIASTICAL BILL. On the motion of the Duke of WELLINGTON, the Dean Forest Ecclesiastical Bill was read a second time, and ordered to ba committed to-morrow._ _ The British Possessions' Abroad Bill passed through Committee. Several petitions were presented for and against the Mines and Collieries Bill. RAILWAYS BILL. The House then went into Committee on the Rail ways Bill. he Earl of RIPON moved the insertion of a clause to repeal that which restricted the use of car riages exceeding four tons in weight, including pas sengers. The effect of this would, he said, be to pre vent the most impertant improVements in railway travelling. The clause was agreed to. Lord CAMPBELL moved the insertion of a clause, forbidding the locking the doors of railway carriages against the consent of the passengers. The LORD CHANCELLOR said the clause was quite unnecessary, as the Railway Companies had discontinued the practice, to the great annoyance of many of the passengers. Lord CAMPBELL contended for the necessity of the clause. When the controlling power of Parlia ment was withdrawn, the Directors might revert to the practice, and it was necessary to forbid it. The Earl of RIPON opposed the clause. It was not desirable that any part of the Executive Govern ment should assume over the railways more power and control than necessary. There was not the slightest reason to apprehend that the railways would revert to the practice as soon as the active control of the Noble Lord was withdrawn, and the session of Parliament over. In every instance the Railway Directors had shown every disposition to comply with the suggestions of the Government. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE supported the clause, there had not been perfect sincerity in the matter. As the Railway Directors did not lock the carriages, there was no necessity for the clause ;- but if it should sometimes be necessary to lock them the clause would be vexatious to them. Lord CAMPBELL said he must press his clause to a division. The Earl of WICKLOW said that the Railway Companies knew their own interes tsas well as any other body of men, and if they found that the public disapproved of locking the carriages, they would abandon the practice. Lord COTTENHAM said that the argument of the Noble Earl opposite (Earl of Wicklow) would go the length of showing that the railway Directors ought not to be• interfered with at all—that they ought to be left to themselves, and to do as they liked. But the object of the Bill was to regulate their practices, and he thought it was absurd to leave it to the discretion of the Directors whether or not they „should return to so dangerous and unnecessary a practice. It was monstrous that people, in travelling by the only public conveyance that could be had they must be imprisoned all the way.—(Hear, hear.) It was not enough that they should have but one mode of conveyance, but they must also be kept under lock and key, at the peril of their lives. The Earl of MOUNTC.A.SHEL could not agree with the Noble Earl (Wicklow) in his opposition to the clause. He thought it was absolutely necessary for the public safety, after the shocking sacrifice of life which happened lately in France, to put down the practice by law. The Earl of RADNOR would oppose the clause, because he thought the locking of the carriages was not dangerous, and he did not know but it might under some circumstances be necessary. The outcry against the practice • originated in a prejudice arising from the erroneous rumour that the carriages were locked on the Versailles Rail way when the terrible accident occurred. But that was not the case ; the carriages were not locked, and if they had been it would have made no diffbrence. The carriages were all smashed to pieces, and in a heap in an instant, and they were burnt in a heap, so that if the doors had been open, it would have availed nothing. The Earl of CLANCARTY opposed the clause. The Earl of RIPON ridiculed the clause on ac count of the provision which it contained, that all the persons inside a carriage should be asked whether they would be kicked in or not, so that if the majority thought that precaution necessary to their safety, one passenger, like the one juror, might overrule the sounder judgment of all the rest. After some further conversation their Lordships divided, The numbers were— For the clause Against it Majority against the clause —4 Messengers from the Commons brought up the Bill for the better protection of her Majesty's person, the Irish River'sßill, and other Bills. PROTECTION OF HER MAJESTY. The Duke of WELLINGTON moved the first reading of the Bill for the better protection of her Majesty's person, that the Bill be printed, and read a second time to-morrow,, and that the Standing Orders be suspended, in order that the Bill should pass through its other stages. Lord CAMPBELL cordially supported the motion, but suggested that it might be necessary to introduce a clause, providing for the punishment of individuals who. might be found with any pistols or other weapons in their possession, and making any attack on her Ma jesty by other means than those stated in the Bill. (LEFT SITTING.) HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock. SHANNON IMPROVEMENTS. Mr, F. FRENCH presented a petition from Ros common, complaining that 100,0001. had been levied upon the county for improving the property of the Crown (the Shannon Navigation); the petition also complained that if this was persevered in they would not be able to pay the assessments, and prayed that the sums to be raised might be more equally levied over the whole of the districts, which the Shannon im provements would benefit. POOR-LAW. Sir E. KNATCIIBULL presented a petition from a union in Kent, against the Bastardy clause in the Poor-law Amendment Act. TIIE TRUCK SYSTEM. Mr. FERRAND presented a petition from the in habitants of Neath, in Glamorganshire, signed by'the tradesmen, shopkeepers and operatives. . The peti tioners stated that they had heard that the Hous was about to adopt measures to put a stop to the truck system, which they stated to be in full operation in the vicinity of that town. They prayed that the House would be pleased to adopt such measures as would tend to the entire abolition of that iniquitous practice. NOTICES OF MOTION. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE gave notice that he should withdraw his motion relative to Supply, of which he had given notice, and in its place, on Thursday, he should move an Address to the Crown, having the same obiect in view. Mr. DIUIs4 TZ gave notice that early next session he should move a Committee to in quire whether the distressed state of the country arose from the state of the Corn-laws and money laws; also what proportion wages bore to the price of corn, and whether it would be to the advantage of society to reduce such wages.V MONUMENT TO SIR SYDNEY SMITH. Sir F: BURDETT gave notice of a motion for this day week to address her Majesty, to erect a mo nument to the memory of Sir Sydney Smith. THE TOBACCO BILL. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved that the Order of the Day for the second reading . of the Tobacco Bill be read, for the purpose of postponing it. Mr. HUME wished the Right Hon. Gentleman to state on what day he would proceed with the Bill, as the delay had caused considerable anxiety to those who were engaged in the tobacco trade. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER fixed Monday for the second reading. ADMITTANCE TO NATIONAL MONU- _THE_ SUN.,_ LONDON, THURSDAY EVENING, JULY 14, 1842. unfortunate survivors, and murdering the wounded they found among the ruins. This is no exaggeration, no high wrought colour ing. I had- it from eye witnesses, who had to fight their way through the town, and it would have been the same here had we suffered to the same extent. Mr. Theogene Dupuy offered 1,000 dollars to any one to dig a grave for his wife, and could find no per son among the thousands of banditti, who would undertake the sad office, such was their eagerness for plunder. Our friends found refuge on board the ships in the harbour, but they are all ruined. Poor Mr. Thomson was going home by this packet full of spirits. The poor Cerf berrs lost their only child, she was about 16 or 17 years of age, and by such an awful death, it makes me shudder to think of. All the other towns in the north, of which we have yet heard, are de stroyed, as well as the Cape, Port de Paix, the Mole Jean Rabel, Plaisance, Limbe, St. Mares, &c. At Port de Paix they had buried by the last accounts, 110 bodies found. Mountains have been rent in two, and even at Morne a Selle, the shock was severe ! After such calamities at other places, it may seem trifling to dwell upon our anxieties here, but these sad accounts make us very nervous when we feel a fresh shock, which we do constantly up to this day. Last night it was very severe, and the night before, during the most awful storm I have ever seen in Hayti, when the skies blazed with lightning, the thunder never ceased, and the rain came down in torrents; one: vio lent shock drove every body out of their house, and many passed the night in the streets. The person just arrived from the Cape is astonished at any one sleeping under a roof, so alarmed are they all in the north. Mr. M— appears still wild with the fright he has sustained. He says the town was thrown down in thirty seconds. The family of Mr. Bird, the Pro testant Minister, were at the time in their Belvedere (or observatory), the house and Belvedere all came down together, and not one of them was hurt; seve ral other escapes were miraculous. Mr. Roden was in his salon VD stairs, and suddenly found himself in the street unhurt, amidst the ruins of his own house. Mr. M— states that no imagination can conceive the horrors of the event at the Cape, or the subse quent excesses of the brigands, who are pillaging. He thus describes his escape : He was sitting in the balcony with Mr. T. Dupuy, Mr. Theogene, &c., when they heard a noise like dis tant cannon, and on looking behind them, into the salon, saw the whole house going down, except just that portion supporting the gallery. They caught hold of each other to save themselves from falling, and waited till the first shock was over ; but such was the cloud of dust, they could hardly see a few feet from where they stood. Disengaging himself from Mr. Theogene, who held him with a grasp of iron, he jumped down into the street, with Mr. Daly and others, Mr. Theogene springing into the ruins, all un hurt. They lost sight of the latter, and were running off towards the place, when a man, recognizing the doctor, ran up to them with a child, whose leg was dreadfully- fractured. With pieces of shingle and a handkerchief he set the limb. They then ran towards the market, clambering over roofs of houses and fallen walls, amidst the shrieks of the sufferers, and and reached the place, where they found the church one heap of ruins, with a few wretches crawling out of it, poor creatures ! dreadfully wounded. They then made their way out of the town, to an elevation called the Fossette, where others had escaped ; and he says their number was very small. The fire broke out immediately (the subterraneous fire of the earth), and many must have been burnt alive in the ruins. Nevertheless, on . the fourth or fifth day after the event, he saw people dug out alive. The next day the ruins swarmed with canaille and soldiers plundering. Whenever they went into the town they had to go in bodies, armed to the teeth, for the fighting in the streets for every article found never ceased. He mentions having seen four men fighting for a piece of linen ; two were killed by the others ; and lie saw two officers ride up, and blow out the brains of the survivors. He also saw two men fight ing for a trifling article ; the weakest being cut down, he begged for mercy, but all he received was his ad versary's sword through his breast. Another coming up, shot the first assassin. Mr. Alexis Dupuy, in trying to save some of his property, shot three or four of the savages, reloading his pistol after each dis charge with the utmost coolness. Mdlle. Cora Cerfberr was found amongst the ruins, poor thing, dead ! Mrs. John Blain also, from appa rently a slight wound on the back of her head. They could bury them only by covering them with the rub bish. Poor Mr. Cerfberr ' whose arm was broken, escaped with his wife, and both are so heart-broken, as they doated on their child, that they have left the country. Mr. Thomson writes me a few hurried lines, under great distress of mind. He is also going home. The Cape in fact no longer exists. Mr. ----- states, that the people at the Cape appeared stupified and wild at the extent of the calamity. Every one you met had lost more or less of their family, and yet not a tear was shed. In some instances whole families had disappeared. I conversed some time with him, and was sickeued by his accounts, which would fill pages, if transcribed. Mr.Dupuy is not returned, hut we expect him daily. We are more tranquil here at present, not having felt a shock for the last two days. Ido not know how long our present uneasiness of feeling may last. Mr. . built of wood, much Dupuy, however, leaves this house in a f ew mon ths to occupyih a building n ear it, w hi c h , being safer than th e presen t store. ;'or a fortnight preceding the earthquake, the heat of the atmosphere was both excessive and unusual for the season, and the day it happened the air was hot, calm, and, as the French say, gras, or hazy. - - I have just seen. Mr. Bird, whose miraculous es cape I have alluded to, and I cannot resist giving yOu his own account. lie was in his balcony when the shock came, and before he could make out what it was, thelwall of the house came down, and he foun d himself on his face in the street; as soon as he re covered from the shock, and the dust had subsided, he thought of his wife and children, who were in the Belvedere, which had not fallen, but was still propped up; to this he clambered as well as he was able, and found his wife and children unhurt, supported by one side of the Belvedere. The other side had fallen. He brought them down in safety, and went to look for another child in the kitchen; he found it uninjured among heaps of rubbish, a door having fallen over it ,in • such a manner as to protect it entirely from the fallen ruins. He says not a stone of Mr. Thomson's house, next to his, remained on another. lle con siders the loss of life enormous, as after the town came down he saw only a few stragglers here and there. lle says there are no streets, all is blocked up with rubbish. I have written you all these details, as I am sure you will not consider them tedious, however clumsily, without method, put together like a journal. MAY 21.—A shipload of the sufferers has arrived from the Cape. Amongst them are the Blain family. Miss Margaret Blain appears with two blackened eyes, and other bruises. She had an extraordinary escape. She was sitting in the saloon, with her sister. In a moment she found herself in the street ; her sis ter was crushed to death ! Mr. Boden, who was in the second floor, found himself suddenly on a heap of rubbish at the bottom of the house, the roof having disappeared. I refrain giving you any more particu lars of the sufferings, as they are too harrowing to dwell upon. Every day I hear of some fresh scene of horror. Mr. Dupuy's child was found unhurt two days after, among the ruins, with the nurse. MENTS. Mr. HUME rose, pursuant to notice, to call the attention of the House to the Report of the Select Committee on National Monuments,. in June, 1841, and to move a humble address to her Majesty, pray ing that she will be graciously pleased to give. direc tions to the Trustees of the British Museum and of the National Gallery, to the authorities having charge of the Armouries and Jewels in the Tower of London i Ito the Commissioners of Greenwich Hospital, and,tO all persons having the management . or direction of public edifices and cathedrals,, for the adoption of those facilities and improvements recommended in ,that Report. It had long been the reproach of . the British people, that they could not admitted to public monuments on account of their disposition to deface them. He had always observed that where confidence was not placed in men, and where they were treated with distrust, they were in different to derive confidence. But on the other hand, whenever they felt that confidence was reposed in them, they endeavoured to justify it. And it was proved that he was right, when the people were admitted to the National Gallery and to the British Museum; for it was found that their conduct perfectly proved that no inconvenience whatever, and no injury whatever to the treasures which those places con tained, was to be apprehended from admitting them. in 1841 he obtained a Committee to i nqu i re into the subject to which his present motion referred, but the shortness of the Session prevented them from doing to it all the justice they wished. They thought that admittance to view collections of works of art was a species of education to those who could not be educated in any other way, and there was a very large number in this country in that con dition, and who could neither read nor write. He be lieved it would be found that the character of every nation was formed by its public institutions. He thought on this account he might claim the attention and indulgence of the House. He could not do better than refer to the Report of the Committee of 1841. Upon that Committee were the present Chancellor of the Exchequer and the Right Hon. Member for Notting hamshire, and upon that Committee only one division took place, and that was respecting three words only. That question was merely as to whether the public institutions should be opened on Sunday or not. He believed that the adoption of the practice would have a most beneficial effect upon the working classes. If the working classes and their wives were admitted to the National Gallery, the British Museum, and other public institutions, not only would gratification and amusement be afforded to the whole family, but the husband would at the same time be kept from the ale-house, where too often be spent his money, and contracted the most injurious habits. There was no country where the people were more attentive to the duties of religion than the people of Holland, yet in that country all the public institutions, collections of paintings and museums were thrown open on Sun days. He therefore thought that greater facilities should be afforded to the people of this country to visit the public institutions. He wished lion. Gentlemen would visit the Regent's-park on Sundays, and they would see it crowded with families enjoying themselves in its healthy atmosphere so much much better than what they could have at home in their cellars and rooms. But he would not be satisfied with that, for he wished to see them also pass through the halls of the Museum, when every object which presented itself to them would be one of instruction, or would lead to further inquiry. This was a religious question in his view, and he would press it on the attention of the House in that view. He hoped that, as the inhabitants of other parts of the town had opportunitios of recreation, the inhabitants near the ;Victoria Park would have tan area in it for amusement, and that similar opportunities would be provided for the inhabitants of Lambeth and Bermondsey. And if there were no Crown lands in those places an exchange might be made. The evidence of C 01. Rowan before the Committee, showed the advantage of such places in the decrease of crime, and in the im proved habits of the people, and that, in con sequence of them, one policeman was now suffi cient where ten were required before.—(Hear, hear.) His wish was that children and all other parties should have admission to the British Museum, to Hampton Court, and to the National Gallery. He also thought that an end should be put to the present custom - of requiring one member of each party enter ing the Museum to write his name in a book. Much inconvenience was created by the practice, and it led to no beneficial result. It was seventeen years since the National Gallery was established, but it was only a few years ago since it was thrown open to the pub lic. Since this latter period the number of visitors had increased daily. On Easter Monday last between 15,000 and 16,000 persons had visited the National Gallery. In the course of the year 1841 the number of persons who had passed through the National Gallery was 538,331, and up to June, 1842, the number for the half year was 370,105. With respect to the Tower, when the admission was 25., only 800 visited it in a year, while after the reduction to 6d., the number who visited it during the same period was upwards of 2,674. The de struction of the whole Armory had been supposed to have taken place, such, however, was not the case, the ancient Armory still existed, and was open to the public. He trusted that the hurriod manner in which persons were taken over the Tower would be put a stop to. With re respect to the Crown jewels the admission to them was originally two shillings ; it had since been reduced to sixpence, and the result was that the number of persons visiting the Jewel room was greatly increased. Since Hampton Court liad been thrown open free of expense, the number of visitors to that Palace had greatly increased. Since that period upwards of 3,000 persons had passed through that palace in one day. The open ing of Hampton-court Palace had been of great benefit to the metropolis. In order to make a visit, the poor people collected a shilling each, and they formed a party in a waggon, con taining 50 or 60 persons ; and 15, 20, and even 30 waggons went of a day, accompanied by bands of music. Thus the people of Spital fields had a day's pleasure and recreation for a shilling. He would hastily mention Greenwich Hospital. At the time the Committee sat Greenwich Hospital was shut to every body but soldiers. Sailors were excluded from the Hall, and it was by his (Mr. . flume's) writing to the Governor that they were admitted. There was one more point to which he wished to call the attention of the House, namely, the admission of the public to the Cathedral. The Committee had recommended, that for one or two 'hours in every day of the week, they should he thrown open to the public, free of all charge. Mr. Cunningham and several other gentlemen, who were thorougly competent to form an opinion, had stated that they had not found the least disposition to mischief on the part of the visitors 'to Westminster Abbey and St. Paul's. The cathedrals of Norwich, Bath, and York were, he believed, already open to the public during certain hours of the day.—(Hear, hear.) With those exceptions, he regretted to say that he did not know of any others that had changed their system. Crowds of visitors were excluded from the cathedrals, Many who were desirous of seeing those cathedrals had to send for a person to show the place to them, and if they did not pay them libe rally, the persons who showed the cathedrals behaved in such a manner as to give to strangers anything but a favourable opinion of the manner in which these things were conducted in this country. He hoped the Right Hon. Baronet and the Right Hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer, would use their influence with the Chapter to prevent these abuses. It had been objected to him that he would 'turn the cathedrals into show-houses. The fact was the present system did. that; it turned them into show-houses for money. The Museum at the East India House had been opened to the public once a week. The Society of Arts had thrown open their museum, and many other in stitutions, both in t )wn and country, had also been thrown open.' In Newcastle, the institution had been thrown open to the public with the greatest advantage. There was a gallery of pictures at Dulwich, which had been left to the public. He was sorry to say that lie had not been able to induce the Warden of that College to throw the Gallery open to the public. Persons de sirous seeing the Gallery, were obliged to procure tickets from some booksellers in London ; and many poor persons were unable to procure admittance, in consequence of being obliged to obtain these ticket s . There was the Royal Academy, which had cost the nation a large sum of money, and it did nothing in return for the people. They ought to recollect that they had the means of supporting that institution from the people, and he would only ask whether it was not fair that the people should share the benefit? All he asked was that the public should have a week to see the institution, or one day in the week for that purpose. He had patiently and persever ingly brought this subject before the House, and he would continua to do so till he succeeded. He was glad that in several parts of the country, institutions and museums were springing up. The Hon. Member concluded by moving " An humble address to her Majesty, praying that she will be gra ciously pleased to give directions to the Trustees of the British Museum and of the National Gallery, to the au thorities having charge of the armouries and jewels of the Tower of London, to the Commissioners of Green wich Hospital, and to all other persons having the management or direction of public edifices and cathe drals, for the adoption of those facilities and improve ments recommended in that Report." . _ Mr. EWART soconded the Motion. A Commission had been appointedin France, by M. Guizot, to inspect and report upon national monuments, he was of opinion that such a Commission would be very advan tageous to this country. Every national monu ment presented a spectacle at once interesting and useful to the historical student. [LEFT SPEARING.] EARTHQUAKE AT HAYTI. (EXTRACT OF A PRIVATE LETTER.) PORT AU PRINCE, MAY 1 6.—1 wrote to you on the 11th by the packet a long account of the effects of the late awful earthquake as far as Port au Prince and Gonaives were concerned. On the 12th I' wrote you a letter,. via New York, giving you the still more afflicting account of the de struction of Cape llaytien. This last account 'hes been confirmed, and each succeeding report adds to the horror and consternation first felt, by the particu lars of the event. Some that we feared for are safe • —others, no more. Among the ,sufferers, or dead, are Mr. Dupuy's mother, his sister, Mrs. John Blain, whom you knew and liked so much. Mdlle. Theogene Dupuy, Mdlle. Cerfberr, and whole families of respectability buried alive, or crushed to atoms, amidst the ruins. The last estimate is from 70,000 to 80,000 souls—two-thirdi of the population of the Cape—not a house ,is left standing—those persons that have escaped are ,in ge neral badly wounded. To give you some idea how in stantaneous was the destruction, two gentlemen were sitting before their doors, and jumping out of the way at once, one had his arm, the other his leg fractured by the ruins. The air they say is pestilential, and to complete the scene of misery thousands of the savages from the plains and mountains are now pillaging the ruins, in organised and armed bodies, plundering the gem,, ,TgA et fart -Y&Ni SE'N OFFICE, HALF-PAST SEVEN. AMERICAN NEWS. EXPRESS FROM LIVERPOOL. LIVERPOOL, THURSDAY MORNING. The Hibernia, Captain Burber, has just arrived at this port this morning, and by her we have dates from New York to the 24th ultimo, inclusive. The papers of the 22d say the failures among mer chants continue numerous, and business generally is exceedingly dull in all its departments. The state of bUsiness is sensibly felt by the banks, which have lost the most profitable part of their business, consisting of the deposits of the small dealers about town. We apprehend that near three-fourths of the business de= ' rived from the deposits of that class of dealers have ceased to be. It is understood that the labours of Lord Ashbur, ton are nearly brought to a close.. No doubt is now entertained that the negotiations will be satisfactorily consummated at an early day. CATHEDRALS OF ENGLANb. The liberal conduct of Sir Robert Stopford, the Governor of Greenwich Hospital, in throwing open the Painted Hall and Chapel to the public, free of charo, for two days in the week, Mondays and Fridays, is highly to be approved- of; and we turn to the Deans . and Chapters, and tell them to go and do likewise with their Cathedrals, which are fine buildings of the gothic and ancient architecture, and such as no other country can boast of. On the C on ti nen t the cathedrals are open to the public th e grea t er par t of every day free, and' tho se persons wh o h ave v i s it e d and observed the conduct o f the peopl e , mus t b e ccnv inced of the great advant age those faciliti es o f a d m ission give to the public i n th ose countries. The e ff ec ts on the people, as a kind of education, are perceptible in the estimation and atten tion paid by them to the monuments of art in all the collections in those countries. Until of late years it was supposed, and boldly staled, that Englishmen were not to be admitted to collections of paintings, or to any public buildings or parks, as foreigners are admitted on the Continent ; but the experiment we have seen made through the persevering exertions of a few gentlemen, at the British Museum, National Gallery, Hampton Park, East India Museum, and other places, proves most satisfactorily, that English men can behave as well as any countrymen, - when ad mitted to those valuable collections. By the evidence of Col. Rowan, before the Select Committee, the conduct of the working classes has been of late years much improved, and he attributes the removal of seclusion, and the free admission of the people to the public edifices and monuments, as hav ing greatly contributed to that favourable result. . We may surely then turn to the cathedrals of this country, as public edifices, which might contribute greatly to gratify the curiosity of millions, and tend to elevate the taste and to improve the opinions of the people, if they were admitted freely to them at stated hours daily. We saw by Lord John Russell's Letter to the, Dean and Chapter of Westminster, that he desired to see free access granted to the cathedrals on week days, and it is to be regretted that the Dean objected thereto. We therefore give an extract of the Report of the Select Committee of the House of Commons on that subject:— Your Committee do rot apprehend that any danger to the monuments in Westminster Abbey and St. Paul's would result from giving to the public, under proper regulations, the same freedom of admis sion to those cathedrals which is allowed in the case of the exhibitions referred to. That your Committee strongly deprecate any course which could create an impression that churches were at any time to be considered merely in the light of places for the exhibition of works of art. But it is their opinion, that, as by increased facilities of admission ,to the inspection of mere works of art, civilisation has been encourac , ed and public taste improved, so a more free admission to religious edifices, under proper regulation, may be made con ducive not merely to the gratification of curiosity and the acquirement of historical knowledge, but to the growth and. progress of religious impressions, by leading the mind of the spectator from the contem plation of the building to a consideration of the views with which, and the purposes for which, it was origi nally erected and is still maintained. Your Committee beg to refer to the evidence of John Britton, the well-known author of "British Cathedrals," who, for 45 years, has devoted his talents to the study of our national edifices and monuments,_ as showing the improvement of the people, through the increased opportunities afforded them of studying those subjects, and the confidence which of late years has been placed in their discretion ; his long and ex tensive experience in these matters has led him to the following conclusions : 2003.. What is. the result of your observations upon the conduct of the public generally in public places since you were in the habit of visiting them P.—Con siderably improved, immensely improved; you would scarcely' suppose it ; supposing I had been from my own country, at a distant part of the world for the last 50 years, I should not have supposed it the same nation or class of 'people. 2139. What effects are produced on the minds of the poorer classes, in your opinion, from the experi ence' that you have had in meeting them in those (ecclesiastical) edifices :P-1 have noticed, upon many occasions, a great number and variety of persons of the middling and lower classes visiting cathedrals, examining different parts of them; examining the Monuments, passing through with great order and decorum, and apparently going away highly satisfied and delighted ; and the only drawback that I have seen or known upon such occasions has been the con duct and rather heavy charges demanded by the vergers and their servants. "Your Committee also refer to the evidence of Mr. Allan Cunningham, the author of the ' Lives of Bri tish Artists,' and other works of general interest, on the importance of public exhibitions, and the beneficial effects on the minds and manners of the working classes. 1845. You think that frequent access to sculpture and other works of art is the best means of mak ing the public careful of them ?-:-.Decidedly ; I think that question is solved by the National Gallery being opened; you see a great number of poor mecha nics there, sitting wondering and marvelling over those fine works, and having no other feeling but that of pleasure or astonishment ; they have no notion of de stroying them ; I was,very much delighted to see them. 1847. Then it is your opinion that facility should be afforded by every possible means to collections of sculpture and painting ? Unquestionably, under proper protection. 1849: What class of people do you say you have seen there ?—Men who are usually called "mob ;" but they cease to become mob when they get a taste. 1850. You think that now they are more attentive ? —Decidedly. I saw no attempt to hurt anything. I saw a great deal of wonder and pleasure; there were what appeared to me to be shoemakers, masons, and joiners. 1850. Do you consider that there would be any danger to the monuments in Westminster Abbey, it the public were admitted two or three hours a day, there being proper attendants in waiting to observe and look after their conduct ?—I think, under proper restrictions and regulations, with a sensible, and able, and active man to take care of them, a man of sense. and taste, that there would be no danger. The evidence of Mr. Edward IVedlake Brayley, the historian of Westminster Abbey, is also deserving of attentive consideration. He expresses' a strong opinion, that 'Westminster Abbey and other religious edifices, mild the monuments of national interest which they contain, ought to be freely seen by all classes, with as little impediment and restriction as their safety requires ; and states, in the following an swers, what the advantages to the public would be. 2184. Is it your opinion that the Cathedrals ought to be freely seen by alI classes, with as little impedi ment and restriction as their safety requires ?—Cer tainly, it is my opinion that it would be useful in many points. 2185. Will you state to the Committee the ad- vantages that occur to you as likely to arise from their being fairly seen ?—That of causing an im proved taste for art, genera*, ih the public ; also of conveying historical information to those who, from the mere sight of them might be induced to make inquiry as to their origin and intention. Several of the witnesses are of opinion that free admission, under proper regulations, tends to diminish 'the danger of injury to monuments and collections; arid Mr. Brayley s opinion is clear on that point. 2227. In, your visits to the Abbey, have yen ob served how far opportunities have heeu afforded to individuals, admitted as they have been ' upon the payment of money, • and to parties moving about with a guide, if there was any inclination to pilfer any parts of the tombs ?—Certainly, there have been considerable opportunities ; because parties •of ten or twelve persons . moving from one chapel to another, cannot be overlooked by one, supposing they were disposed to pilfer'; and even the interference of the monuments would conceal them from sight. 2228. Do you think that if a greater number were admitted to see those monuments, there would be better protection by their being overlooked one by another ?—I should think it would be so; still I have not seen any disposition in any part of the public to cause destruction to any part of the monuments. Your Committee are of opinion, that increased at tention should be paid to the preservation of the Kele ' siastical edifices, and of the royal and other monu ments contained therein ; and they entertain a hope that arrangements may' be made by the Cathedral authorities to allow the larger portions of Westniin ster Abbey and St. Paul's, and other Cathedrals throughout the country, to be open freely to the pub;. lie daily, and especially on Sundays, reconciling such free admission with the due and undisturbed per formance of religious services, though it may be re quired to continue a reduced fee, or other sufficient restriction, in regard to the chapels, and smaller or more intricate portions of those edifices. Your Committee think it right to add, that if the greater freedom of admission to those churches should lead, as it probably must, to an increase of the num ber of officers employed in their superintendence, the additional expense ought to be defrayed from other funds than those belonging to the Cathedrals. We hope' to see Catalogues or Guides prepared for all the Cathedrals at the low prices at which the Ca alogues for the National Gallery are sold. TRIAL FOR PIRACY IN FRANCE, The Maritime Tribunal of Brest ha s b een engaged in the trial of a case of piracy and v i o l a ti on of the , existing treaties between France and Spain, against a continuation of the slave-trade. The hearing com menced on the 28th ult., and lasted till the 3d inst. inclusive. The whole of the important and interest ing circumstances, as exposed by th e procee di ngs, are comprised in the following statement :—A Mexican brig of war; called the Podia, taken by Admiral lßaudin's• fleet in 1838, became by successive sales and transfers the property of a Spaniard named Vivo, re sident at the H avanna h . Vi vo, who had been pre viously engaged in the slave-trade in a subordinate capacity, had her fitted out as a slave-ship, and en gaged a crew of 45 men. As this traffic was pro hibited, by the laws of Spain, he, by' fraudulent representations, furnished himself with Portu guese papers, and sailed on 25th December, 1830, from the Havannah; direct for the coast of Mozam bique. Being, thus apparently under the Por tuguese flag, he had not any visits to fear, except from the English cruisers, and from them he hoped to escape through the superior sailing of his vessel. When he left the Havannah he had no merchandise on board, but had provided himself with an ample sum of money in specie. On his arrival at the Mo zambique, the slave-trade had been prohibited by Portugal, and the Governor, in obedience to orders he had received from his 01 overnmeirt, fined Vivo 2,500 piastres for contravention of the treaty that had been entered into, and, having seized and taken away from his ship all that could be used in the illicit traffic, he commanded Vivo to return to the Havannah, giving him papers expressly for this destination, and appointed a Portuguese subject, Captain Costa Vianna, to take the chief command of the ship. He, at the same time, embarked in her seventeen men who had lost their ship, as passengers for the Havannah. Vivo, notwithstanding the new captain placed over him on leaving the coast of Mosambicine, retained the full command of The vessel, and by his represen tations, induced the crew and passengers to consent to deviate from the course to the Havannah, against the will of the. Portuguese Captain Costa Vianna, who protested, as he has since declared, against the violation of the Governor's orders. Steering to Bombeslock, he, on his arrival there, found three American vessels, from which he procured water-tanks, provisions, planks, fifty muskets, and the other .stores necessary ter his first projected trade. Having obtained these, he sailed to the coast of Poniba. Here, by deceit, he gained posses sion of a small boat, called a pangaille, got her crew of six men on beard, and secured them in the hold or between decks. When the chief of the boats remon strated against this act of fraud and violence, Vivo justified himself on the ground that it was but a re taliation for the money of which the Governor of the MozambiqUe had robbed him. On the following morning the Pocha fell in with, and, by main force, captured a large pangaille, manned by 18 free Arabs, and containing 120 blacks. Having taken on board these, and all the provisions and stores the boat con tained, he set it adrift with two old Arabs, of whose fate nothing has been heard. The Pocha then re turned to Bombestock for the Lieutenant, who had been left at that place to purchase rice. Thence she went to Nossihe, where Vivo found the French sloop of war Prevoyante, and went on board to visit Captain Jehenne, who received him politely, invited him to breakfast, and promised to return the visit the next morning. Although no doubt of the Pocha being a slaver could be entertained, Captain Jehenne was re strained from searching her, as Portugal did not admit that right. More serious suspicions, however, arose, when, early in the morning, instead of waiting for Captain Jehenne's return visit, the Podia was seen making off with all her sails set. In the course of the day the whole shore was in commotion, it having been discovered that she had landed some of her men at another point of the island, and carried off many men and women, after killing one man who had offered resistance. The Prevoyante found the Pocha again at the Island of Mayotte. As the sloop approached, the men at her mast-head saw many heavy bodies, but of what nature could not be distinguished, thrown from the Pocha into the sea, and then water was drawn up and dashed upon the deck, as if to clean it. No doubt was entertained that the objects thrown overboard were the poor blacks, or some of them. Captain Jehenne sent an officer into the vessel, who discovered in confinement the Arabs who had been captured in the two . pangailles, and at the same time ascertained that the vessel was without any papers warranting her appearance in that latitude. Upon these facts the Prevoyante took possession of the Pocha, and carried her into the island of Bourbon. Here the vessel was condemned, and her crew sent to France to be tried for piracy. On their arrival at Brest a correspondence took place on the subject between the Governments of France and Portugal, at the end of which the latter power renounced all claim to the prisoners as its sub jects, and left them to be tried before the French tribunal. After reading the indictment and the re ' port of Captain Jehenne, and the other documentary . evidence, the prisoner Vivo was interrogated, he admittedall the essential facts, but.denied his being guilty of piracy, justifying his seizure of the two pan gailles as a mere act of reprisal on the Governor of the Mozambique, for taking from him the '2,500f., which he maintained was a robbery. He denied having been guilty of any outrage on shore, and of this it does not appear any evidence was produced. He also denied that any blacks were thrown into the sea. Vianna, the nominal Captain, Was next called upon, to account for being engaged in these infamous transactions. He declared that, although put in com mand of the Pocha by the Governor of the Mozambi que, he never had the least authority in her, which was assumed and maintained throughout by Vivo, un der whose orders every transaction took place. He gave his evidence with great reserve, being evidently under strong fears of the consequences which might arise from Vivo and his mate, who is evidently a man of determined resolution as well as great physical powers. Harnis Ben Omar, the owner of the smaller pangaille, who came willingly to France to appear as a witness on the trial, was examined, and gave, in the French language, which he spoke well, a clear and distinct account of the treacherous manner in which he, his men, and boat, were gained posses sion of, and detained by the Pocha. He also acted as interpreter in the examination of Bacari Iman Bacos, the master of the larger boat. This witness repeated the account of the capture of her by Ripoll, and a crew sent out in the smaller pangaille. He stated that he had in his boat 120 slaves, which he had purchased for working an estate he possessed at Langibar, and affirmed that he and his men were free and independent, and that the Governor of Mozam bique had no property or interest whatever in the slaves, which belonged to him alon e . Th e y b o th complained bitterly of the treatment they received on board the Pocha„ and more particularly at having their beards shaven, which was a gross violation of their religious feelings as Mahometans. Vivo, however, justified the act as necessary for cleanli ness and the preservation of their health. The evi dence of the numerous other 'witnesses tended to establish the truth of all the . facts stated. The Commissaire Rapporteur, the public prosecutor in the French Admiralty Courts, in delivering his requisi tory, insisted upon judgment against Vivo, Vianna, and Ripoll, as having been guilty of piracy in seizing and detaining the two pangailles, and plundering the merchandise they contained, leaving the rest of the prisoners to the discretion of the Court. The Tribu • nal, after a ve r y l ong d e lib era ti on, pronounce d V i vo, Vianna, and Ripoll guilty of piracy, but with exte nuating circumstances as to the two latter. Conse quently Vivo was sentenced to close confinement, with labour, for ten years, and Vianna and Ripoll to the same punishment for five years. The rest of the prisoners composing the crew of the Pocha, forty-five in number, were acquitted. IM PE/UAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, July 13. SUPPLY. The Order of the Day having been read that the House shoUld resolve itself into a Committee.of Supply, . . Mr. WILLIAMS said, that in rising to address the House on the subject of the proposed supplies, he had no • wish to offer any factious opposition to the Government. , There was evidence of the decline of the country, and they ought to look about them to see how it could be best relieved. The country was much worse now than it was this time last year, and distress was fast spreading amongst classes where it did not appear before. Foreign , competition was , algo on the increase; and - they should look around them and try to reduce every item in their expenditure. The Hon. Gentleman concluded by saying that the services of certain clerks in the Treasury were • not sufficient to entitle them to the remuneration they received. • Aker a short conversation between the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Lord Palmerston, and Mr. Vernon Smith, in vindication of the practice of allowing retiring pensions to officers engaged in the public service, the House 'vent into Committee of Supply, Mr. GREENE in the chair. Sir R. PEEL then moved that a sum of 33,11 CL should be granted to defray the expenses of the British Museum. Mr. lIAWES wished to know whether the Trustees had taken any steps fir the purpose of throwing 'open the library to the public? Mr. HUME thought as the public money had been expended in the erection of the building they ought to have admission. Sir R. INGLIS observed that it had been found im practicable to admit the public without distinction, - with a due regard to the preservation of the books. The Hon. Member for Montrose, however, must know the: every facility was given to those to whom it was neces sary to attend them. Mr. GALLY KNIGHT believed it would be impos sible to make out the catalogue of the books properly if the public were indiscriminately admitted. Dr. BOWRING said he wished to suggest the pro priety of having a class catalogue. The matter had often been pressed upon the attention.of trustees, and it was clear that such a catalogue, would afford greater as sistance to students. Mr. EWART said he would take that opportunity of suggesting the propriety of opening the library in the evening for the working classes.—(' Nb, no.") In the great library of Paris, which was opened every evening, not the least inconvenience resulted from it. Mr. HUME said as they were now voting 30,000/. to this institution, he wished to say one or two • words in ' reference to ita present management. Though the Archbishop of Canterbury might be a very good theologian, and even a good naturalist, he thought that as public money was . voted for the insti tution, there ought to be certain individuals ap pointed, who would be responsible to the Govern ment, and that the management should not be left entirely in the hands of private trustees. The Hon. Member then read extracts from the Report of the Select Committee of the House, stating how the trustees were appointed. .It was a close corporation, and was it likely to act differently from all other self-elected corpo rations? He had no wish to interfere with the rights of those who founded the Museum, yet, as the public had in a great measure become the ruling body, it ought to be popularised by the appointment of trustees by the Secretary of State. The library, too, might be thrown more open ; if they excluded the public from such places, the most erroneous notions were formed. Even if the pub lic could only see the outside of the hooks, it might commence a course of training, by which a taste for reading might be infused. - - Sir ROBERT PEEL referred to the trustees id were last elected, Mr. Grantley and Mr. show that men of - eminent literary character were tli; overlooked in the present arrangement. He assured ! House th a t there was no ground f r supposing that trustees neglected their duty ; on the contrary, th was no institution in the kingdom which was more fully managed, or in which the officers better discba their duties. ! i Mr. G. KNIGHT ,said that many improvements been made, which proved that the trustees were aetn s by a. liberal spirit. The public had confidence in trustees. He (Mr. Knight) would be the last n 15 5; oppose ch ange because' it was change, but he d id think the proposed change would he a good one. In reply to an observation from Dr. BOWRING, 0 ,; Sir G. CLERK state d t h at the trustees a lways t a quarter's allowance of the grant beforehand. After a slight conversation the vote was agreed to t . 0 Sir G. CLERK moved that a sum of not 1( .55 0 106,0851. should be granted, till the 31st of for the expense of work upon public buildings, tb rvlt watching, lighting, taxes, &c. f to Mr. HUME made some remarks deprecator.) . ° „ c het system of letting out part of Hampton Palace to br a n' o plt of the nobility free of rent, by which means the I w o were prevented access to some of the most ele:ro t o l t het of the Palace. The Hon. Gentleman, amon ' g s i t ding i instances, stated that certain apartments, i" e ; a iehit' most beautiful chapel, were occupied by Adiviou, other shed, who refused_ to allow any one to see it. lady, who occupied thirteen rooms, used one verY, a ' t She and elegant little room as a lumber-room, and l e did would not give up for the benefit of the public. , 1 „ t t fei think, since things had come to this pass' 1. , goy' Lord pause before they granted this meney. ' •Biarch.lol6 Lord LINCOLN was happy to inform tne l hsd nourable Gentleman that' Admiral Whitshea;pbo given up the c h a p e l f or t h e b ene fi t o f the et/ in consequence of a representation • that su e w hich the. geceral desire. No doubt other parts, itss4 were particularly desired, would be given IV. IV absolutely neces s a r y t o reserve a f ew rooms i n the 10 0 for store-rooms, as t h e pu bli c h a d access to a every room. Mr. WILLIAMS should like to have the itenee in detail, and h e wou ld move f or retur ns °' .jel t With regard to those Palaces he believed that 45J sums were spent f or tile purchase of houseS i r e . t li Buckingham Palac e ; an d lie would like to know they were not still purchasing houses around the 1i laces. Here were seven Palaces for her Alejest& Ibt did not think s o man y P a l aces were necessa ry w et comfort of h er M a j esty, or f or t h e di gn i ty o f the et ( He believed there were some of them which were seen by her M a j es t y . Wh y s h ould not Kew 13„015'4, fitted up for th e D uc h ess o f K ent ? He did -ooF why it should be k e pt f or th e Ki ng o f H anover , '' l3 l . n . f tli d a foreign Prince ; o r w hy 8001. s h ou ld b e pai° Princess Sophia while she could have one of the ll i e d he did 'not receive an account of the expenses ° Palace EWARTuId oppose the vote. 0 11 Mr. did not think it right that the isf should be excluded from Richmond and Ke w Some persons were. Mr. PROTHEROE hoped that Bnckinghael j e?, would be completely fitt e d u p f or th e S overe ign, 5 1 1 , 4 :: a chapel would be a tt ac h e d t o it.. I t was iteces s r,! e ! her Majesty now to go p u bli c ly to S t . J ames 's rai. chapel, and it was on . th ose occas i ons that th e attempt on her Majesty's life had been made. r o Mr. HAWES r egre tt e d th a t th e H on . MembV, had just sat down m a d e an y a ll us i on to t h e a tteuT A her Majesty's person.—(Hear, hear.) He 1 1 °1V her Majesty would b e a l wa y s seen amongs t her s° —(Hear, hear.) With regard to what had Ni el ? the Hon. Member for D um f r i es , -h e perfectly' aft, with him, that the P a rk s oug ht t o b e opene d tore j wishing to drive in them. Th. public derive b e, advantage from the opening of Bushy P a rk, tin t er, not see why Kew should no t b e o p ene d a l so . - 11 kept for the King of Hanover, he thought it r abuse of the public money.—(Hear, hear.) 115;,i The Earl of LINCOLN said that mo re than td • the expenses of which th e H on . M em b er for C° for . complained were incurred for the public and po t D ill,' Sovereign. With regard to the allowance of , 0 1, year to the Princess Sophia, it was most econor° 1 „1, ( 1, the Palace to which the Hon. Member alluded c i ‘ 4 )l l ,' be fitted up for less than 10,0001. or 12, 00 ' 1 ,e / regard to what had fallen from the Hon. Me ra l ie, Halifax as to the building of a chapel for her '. u r attached to Buckingham Palace, ho did not thloft, was taking too great a' liberty with the nav e Sovereign in saying that no sentiment of fear W° l , l o , Any effect in preventing her Majesty from eta ° p e; divine worship, or taking her u s u a l d r i ve in th e , b oP t , He might mention an inst a n c e o f th e anx iety wu . Majesty and Prince Alb er t e nt er t a i ne d t o s ave „c; lie money. Last year the House would reco llect , ii de siderable sum h a d b een vote d f or t h e purpose of h!o,itf . two beautiful conse rva t or i es on th e groun d s of P ro ' ham Palace. Her Majesty, however, instead of e i od i ing that money in beautifying her garden, ea let.„ chapel to be erected with it contiguous to the l'orio (Hear.) With regard to Richmond and Kew 1 4 t i.olt, E , certainly must say, that it was not nearly so ut obtain entrance to them, as people not livin,g b A neighbourhood were apt t o i magine . Ile he° 0 though as little known to any of the gate-keepe r : ls s t i , one else could be, frequently ridden in the l'srl; e t )i l t Gardens were the only ones which remained t° ,t fr jesty and her family; they had been formerly k e labe) kind of nursery, and he would submit that it w° a ,. e o t y well to preserve the limitation which at resen t L e l J , of keeping them private four days a week. •J! ii) ere Y recaected that the Botanical Gardens at ge' ; ways open. Mr. PROTHEROE explaind. e t , Mr. EWART begged t o as k if means were be" to carry out a motion which was made seime 1114 ! extending Regent's Park to Primrose Hill. Lord LINCOLN stated that Regent's Park , undergone considerable improvements. Mr. HUME disapproved of certain ground ton Gardens (as we understood) having been subsequently built upon. Lord LIN C 0.14 N stated that it had been done ill ante with an Acf passed in the last Parliament- 00 01 Mr. PROTHEROE agre e d with M r . Hume t e e ,T round should not have been built u p on .—The then agreed to. fo t The next vote proposed was that of 4,75 provements on the Holyhead and Liverpool ro, s( i f lP Holyhead Harbour, and the Shr ews b ur y a nd l' ° ' road, which was agreed to. A vote of 33,748/. was then p ro p ose d for t i ld' buildings at the British M useum , i nc l u di n g the i ta ' meats on the south front. ,ot° After a few words from Mr. HUME the ' 1 ., ) agreed to. A vote of 5,395/. was proposed for providing Nisi accommodation until the new Houses of F ar t y should be completed.—Agreed to. ford The next vote proposed was that of 105,000 e el e expenses in building the new Houses of Bali° the Ist of April, 1843. Mr. HUME wished to know when the buildiWat be completed at the rate they were going on sent; twenty years, or when? 0 4 .1 Lord LINCOLN said h e c ou ld no t p rec isely the buildings would be entirely completed. He si4 it was probable they might sit in the new Hon se to,) session of 1845, certainly in 1846 ; th e Victornlr e dr however, and other parts, might not be finish considerable time. Mr. HUME said the exp en dit ure was most f i fif j o i gent and unnecessary; they might ma k e a fine f I but it would never do for a House of Parliatool vote was then agreed to. On the vote for 2,0181. for the Museum o Geolo Mr. HUME approved of the object of the 5 0,0 but deprecated maintaining a laboratory fort'° ores for private parties. The building wa s to for its purpose. He objected to the vote. The vote was agreed to. On 19,026/. being proposed for finishing the 1711.' for the model prison, ( ford Mr. WILLIAMS s a id th e p resent vote w as ' a c co l 'co t taming 250 convicts a t 13 s . a wee k each, in6o where the wages of h un d re d s o f industri:, e P 'Ci4 were 3s. a week. H e p resume d that t:iprille prison was to be on the plan of the ' h ie pe lt prison in the State of N ew Y or k , b u t t of f og convicts, by their labour, paid the full o cos v ll n o maintenance. The whole o f th a t i mmens e V ii r i A li o, built by. the prisoners the mse l ves . I n t hi s 0 134 51 d means were even taken to effect this object. -,A , ;t e , t o why not transport them ? The cessation of the, ;10 , ,,ict transportation had much injured the penal e°' ) i oe they would now be glad to give Si. for el )hire they could send them. They would willin f q; ,to labour of the convi cts , l a b our b e i ng so valunv' e .' in e l i e d JAMES GRAHAM sa id w h en they pc'oaleboil office they found the building so far, ;l i ef igig that they could not abandon it, even if. „rpf ° `o„' doubted its policy. But so far from u' t s- 1 , tO r is l, of it,, they thought it an experiment well wor t The experiment, therefore, should undergo , - 0 0 „ r e and he hoped the House and the Govertne°„" o t app a pt' prove of it. As to the transportation, he did " itn :sln - te o of the continuance of it as a secondary sl a ri Subject to proper regulations the abuses tse col l r ae might be removed, so as to render it an effieic_ n „ald „ t ia punishment. He intended that this prison ' os tro t ` be rs in aid of the system of transportation, byi o ding prisoners or skilled labourers previous to 9 t o! to a penal colony. elli t ' ec o P t° Dr. BOWRING asked whether, in the t r angre arrangements of the prison, there were anY zi. ri' for central inspection P ~, t he P i ; Sir J. GRAHAM had not been able to 0000 son, but he believed the best mode of const r Os ° adopted. o f P (10' Mr. HUME approved of a better sYst er° w - he discipline being adopted, if transporta t i on we re continued. After a few remarks from Lord STANIASI': A The vn v t o n te o l f ra B s ,6 th s e 4 2 a h g a r s e i e n d g to b . een BOWRING, . S' r t h e e 1 penses for the prison , for juvenile offenders 10 Wight, ~„ fru- A Sir J. GRAHAM 4 3 ....- hp . Mr. Hume) stated (in reply to a qu e ' c i e rs u , . ae . n that some of the juvenile offen,,, 0 , ,s i, increase of expenditure had thus been p an _ sent out at the expense o f t h e state te l' e ,, sv proposed. _l e i s le 0 A l n d l and the worse-conducted to Van Pin ° c i . Mr. V. iiic arre of i t I O offenders juvenile females, h owever, were not so country. ch ile . ;ave. SMITH doubted the policy, of sea "bore the) w.ould be expnsed to a eom-etition with P nrtie 00, tho characters had never been I.* 11 He thovat, t. iy to tainted. e ', 1 the course was like c a to a colony like New Zealand, 1 0 '1 w hose adopted by the Government consi der , hold out a premium to crime, and might be mea ns c li as a bardsh . eminTati ' „ ng from this country. G ove r° . ip by honest persons who had n° Lord STANLEY said that the object o f4b o , t h 0 meat was to send those offenders from the scene ei