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I.I' , eIPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, July 29, • Their Lordships assembled at Five o'Clock. ' 4 - :On the motion of the Duke - of Buccp:uca,lthe 4 , l noSoUth A ustra li an Bill was react a third time, and passed. Earl of RADNOR presented a petition from i 4 " . 'zinictuiline, praying for the repeal of the Corn-laws. ° NOBLE EARL also laid on the table a Bill to repeal 751471140 .C0rn-laws, which was read a first time, and ordered 4: be read a second time on Thursday next. lo. The Poor-law Commission Continuance Bill was read Ics4-ithird time, and passed. "z - The Court. of Chancery Offices Abolition Bill was '?. 1 3 - xcread a third time, and passed. • The Earl of CLANCARTY, pursuant to notice, begged to _put a question to the Noble Lord the Presi -414-.,. dent of the Council. Ile wished to know whether it Was 41.; intention of Government to sanction the appropriation '4l' of any portion-.of the education grant fir Ireland for the }''l establishment :and endowment of agricultural schools in ennnexion with the schools of the Board of Educa ?.l',.tion in -that country, and if so, whether such , endowment would be limited according to the principle )I.l,:laid down in the seventh Report of the Education Com ers ? • - LordWHARNCLIFFE said that it was not the in- I Ott mention of the present Government to withdraw illy '' -1 4ortion of the present powers of the Education Comniis ni.%akmers in Ireland. ‘, 1 14 ' - :SUDBURY DISFRANCHISEMENT BILL. . The Marquis of CLANRICARDE said, that looking .at the present state of public business, and considering the late period of the session, he did not think it possible 4 € l iefer their Lordships to bring this Bill to a satisfactory termination. He begged, therefore, to move that the ?::order of the day for the second reading of the Sud s, 3 bury Disfranchisement Bill be discharged. After a few words from Lord BROUGHAM, the mo tion was agreed to. , is POOR-LAWS (IRELAND.) 4 The Earl of GLENG ALL presented a petition froth a .t.Place. in Ireland, praying that the conduct of the medical charities might riot be placed under the control of the Poor-Yaw Commissioners. The Noble Earl took that °PPortunity of deprecating the extravagant sums paid 'a : , to the Poor-law Commissioners and Assistant C0m ;14.: Missioners as travelling expenses,addition: to their salaries, and also passed some strictures on the -tioor-law Commission generally. The Earl of WICKLOW said that the expenses' of : -`" 0 Commissioners, if extravagant, from whatever fund they might be taken, ought not to he permitted : ``'but he must say he never knew of public servants who ~fitter deserved the remuneration they received than the 4,4 1 ssi oilers and Assistant Commissioners. 'After a few observations froth the Bishop of DERRY lA ,' the petition was ordered to lie on the table. The itarl of MOUNTCASHEL presented a petition ? f rom-the medical practitioners superintending- the fever . -4 0 spitias, dispensaries, &c. of the county of Dore gal, ,gainst placing the administration of the medical ch ch . '"„tes under the control of the Poor-law Commissioners. The Noble Earl also presented two other petitions to the -: "tame effect. Th e Earl of GLENGALL presented a petition to the * tame efff!ct, from a Board of Guardians in the county a ermanagii. I° ( P , :7 The Grand Jury Presentments (Ireland) Bill was read a second time. The Fisheries (Ireland) Bill was considered in C ( lntniitee.—Report to be received on Monday. The Municipal Corporations Act amendment Bill Passed through Committee. The Rivers (Ireland) Bill also passed through Com taittee.—Report on Monday. The Manchester, Birmingham, and Bolton Police Bill Was read a second time. The Assessed Taxes Bill was also read a second time. The -Joint Stock Banking Companies Bill passed through Committee. • Debtors the motion of Lord BROUGHAM, the Insolvent . ebtors Relief Bill was read a second time.--Committee " Wednesday next. The House than adjourned at a Quarter-past Seven 151 Clock, till to morrow at Twelve o'Clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS, July 29. The SPEAKER took the chair at Four o'Clock. I , The Lords' amendments to the Mersey Conservancy iil we ...e considered and agreed to. SewelTs Divorce Bill was read a second time, end ordered to be committed. Mr. BROTHERTON brought up the Report of the Committee on Public Petitions. FREE TRADE. , Mr. VILLIERS presented petitions from a benevo ',eat society, Elgin ; from the hand-loom weavers, Mid dleton ; from a friendly society at Northwich, in the county of Chester ; from the machine makers in the tL • 4I°Y of the Messrs. Slmr p e, all com p lainin g of dis tress, ess, andpraying for the removal of the restrictions on Lrad e . • holclir• BROCRLEHURST pr esen ted a petition 'from a lowYof Operatives in Lancashire, complaining of their r rrayin ate of wages, and of the laws affecting labour, and House not to separate without taking their cue ingt the conside ra ti o n. BREACH OF PRIVILEGE. 34, Mr. SHEIK said he believed it was a breach of privi lege to attribute to a Member of the House expressions disereditable to him, and sentiments which he had never tittered. In the Morning Herald report of the debate on the Bribery Bill, he was represented to have said that in his opinion in Ireland the bribery oath was no check the practice, and that it was frequently violated. He h ad uttered no such sentiment ; what he had said was. that the oath was a very great restraint. He was sa ti‘fi . t •„,- ed the reporter did not intend to misrepresent h llttn but he was naturally anxious that no erroneous I mpression of what he had said should go abroad • there )1 : ri d been a misconception, but it had arisen from his own "Litinctness. c . Sir J. GRAHAM said he had paid particular atten ta to what the Hon-and Learned Gentleman had said. t hough was the first MeMber who objected to the clause , ` ll iigh he alleged that its stringency was very great, a nd had been effeetual. Mr. SHEIL-L-It was a mere mistake. BRIBERY BILL. • In answer to a question from Mr. HUME, Lord GRANVII,LE -SOMERSET said, as the evi ' "nee on the Bill, "as taken before the Committee, con tained various matters connected with individuals and the public; he was not prenared to say that ha could'lay i t all on the table. Mr. HUME would put a question on ;he subject on • monde}. Dr. BOW RING asked, as the evidence referred prin- Vpally to one l oca li t y, whether it would be followed up "Y any other Report? Lord G. SOMERSET said another Report had been Prepared, but he could not say when it would be pre sented. THE DEPTFORD CHARTISTS. Sir J. GRAHAM said he perceived by . the notice - Paper that the Hon. Member for Finsbury intended to Present a petition from Dr. M'Douall this evening, and - to - submit a motion to the House upon it. The Hon. qentlennin had submitted his motion in this particular it, form, in consequence of the Standing Order adopted April last, which made it competent to the 4 ctouse to discuss any petition complaining of personal grievance, which pressed for a remedy. understood that the person whose grievance was I „ .. titended to be brought under the consideration of the - tieuse was not in custody, but at large on bail. At Present, therefore, there was no personal grievance 'rered ; had there been he would not have asked t ce Honourable Gentleman to postpone his motion. But as the parties were at large, it would be a great ' c ciavenience if he would adhere to the customary ": I ' 4 ,_'age in presenting petitions, and give notice of ‘"e precise motion he intended to make. As a Point of form, there would be greater advantage Statepting that course. He (Sir James Graham) would that he had, yesterdav, written to the Magistrate, requesting to be furnished with a full report of the pro ceedings in the case. Ile had not yet received the re . tort, b u t h e ex p e cted to receive it by Monday. 4 ,,t would, therefore, be more conducive to the ends of jus `4ee if the Bon. Member would postpone any motion he blight be desirous of bringing forward until Monday, on Which day her Majesty's Government would give him every facility for bringing forward his motion. He (Sir • Graham) requested, as a personal favour to himself, that the Hon. Member would postpone his motion till .:.t konday, • • 1‘; Mr, ,T. DUNCOMBE would be happy to accede to I proposal of the Right Hon. Baronet, and would post- Q' - illune his motion, on condition that he should have pre ence on Monday.—(" Hear, hear," from Sir James sla,,„Atraham.) He - would now confine himself to pre —Ceeenting two petitions. He thought certainly th at Nei Thole petitions came within the rule which allowed 111 4 - 2 , 4 discussion to be raised on the presentation of i t1,.. 1 k Petition, complaining of an immediate public and per ;ilcrlal grievance. The petitioner had been held to bail ) 1;), :h,..0 . six months, when be had committed no offence, but bad merely exercised his right of attending a 4,l7tliblic meeting, which the police, acting upon the ,tot was laid -down by the Right Honourable Baronet, '' 444 1 chosen to interrupt as illegal. The first petition 14,-'‘'filich h e w ould present; was signed by the Chairman of 1 1 4 , 1 4 e,„ I t Public meeting, consisting of 5,000 or 6.000 of the in ,,,-fe:"allitants of Deptford, comp!aining of the conduct . 14 the police in arresting Dr. M‘Douall, and the .I;,l,s,:teher was f rom Dr. M`Doitall himself, a surgeon, L't;,resitlin g in HaroPton-street, Walworth, complaining .I Z! th e conduct of the police in interrupting a public ceting," and arresting him ; of the hardshi p s which he bM endured in the station-house, and o f the obstacles w hich had been thrown in his way to p revent his pro '`t C u ring evidence to show that the charg es of the p olice - 1 41 , w ere "ere unfounded. He moved that the petitions be printed. The petitions were then brought up and ordered to be v r inted with the Votes. • RAJA OF SATTARA. Air. HUME presented a petition from Puntaub S kean, the deposed Raja of Sattara, who was now , s 4 ' state prisoner at Benares. He_ had last year , ;,Z s efered a petition to the House on the same subject, t3uut as it wus written in the Mahratta language, and un -11ciecolnpanied by an English translation, it had been with- Zawn. He now presented a petition from the same in ividual, written in the English language. The petition va s signed at Benures, on the Bth January, 1842, and was ruled with the seal of the Mahratta kingdom of Sevajee. It was attested by four inhabitants of Benares and j a Magistrate. The petitioner stated that he as the lineal descendant of Sevajee, the , under o f th e Mahratta empire ; that he was "• lo the le g iti m ate head of the Mahratta empire ; that . 4 4 1819, on t h e d epos iti on of th e P e i s h wa , h e h a d b een 1i feste re d by the British Government as a feudatory of the tish empire ; that from that period, up to the y e ar 1835, he had enjoyed the unlimited confidence of the Court of Directors, who ix that year had sent him -1 sword of honour, and stated that his conduct was I'orthy of the imitation of the other native Princes; that since that period he bad been deposed, under the cir- ~~ about -11 ; 11 'bli 7Y consider,. times as bieb meeting 4 w here per' e , including 1":Ici forwatheir rd, a e ,,, ing in h i e stated dint e 7,iations in , en d derM 1 to ihs ll andsi assort aritlQ, (31r. b e fore tb • .nethe' hire, bu bend ally ae, Nuti-Corn Is', I. now arr ;re have been li t io ;her or not' ti o It appears Lave been e substant i 'o o mm unit % 111 v and ther e v { The di sto r ons whib Di + ct in two "'l e o are, hared; it tr c of the C O' it ?gree th 6- cf / public P eß bict withcui t y.`4l/ ;ht be r P si n dg' On iN l° ,; - , I hope' t'' lase it ' 5 , IV whe the• oc e, he Con fg r : or x.) eon t he urned. P" A 'Tr n itrnent, vk' of the Fa • Lull. Mr. geci'llr, n, 51 . P : " " P t ' ,f Parban%ltlei ' acrdd 0 1;d011 4 V s° , j etY 3e Lavi.S`'rir r Sir Jns• e t alr c itor-G e iop 111 r. of he mere t he aement o re its being woe lent r oa' sir Sheffield, bei oun d that t ois through ° P tiule e e the rerr",. to un derto o. o o had broubto the course had a ce r c i s ; ed his" frit'n.l, ave the g(tou'a la te 3 s cu SUN. LONDON. SATURDAY EVENING. JULY 30, 184 eumstances roiatd in tire petition, to only a few of which he (Mr. Hume) would allude then. He stated that in 1836 he was accused of plotting against the British Government, but his whole life ought to have been a sufficient answer to such an accusation, that, the Governor of Bombay was empoweredtoproeure eVidenii!e against him, as having violated the treaty. which, he had entered into, but he referred to Residents Duff, Bing, and Robinson, in testimony of its faithful observance ; that he was accused of conspir in g ag ainst the British Government, and entering into a treaty with the Portuguese Government, to procure three thousand troops from Goa ; that an inquiry was instituted, which was kept a secret from him; and that, notwithstanding, the whole evidence against him was declared to be worthless. He stated that his principal servant was seized and imprisoned; that he was kept for twenty-two months in prison, in a state of torture, till he - signed a document to save his life ; that the charge of procueing 30,000 troops from Goa was so ab surd that the House could not give a credence ; that he never had more than 1,500 troops. and that to attempt any such proceeding' as he was charged with, was totally at variance with his character ; that his brother was placed in his stead on the throne, who was proved, under his own handwriting, to have conspired to injure the interest of the India Company ; that he (the Raja of Sattara) had private property to the amount of 350,000/. taken from him ; that •he was seized by the orders of Sir J. Carnac, in his palace, to which he was never after allowed to re turn, and that he suffered all these losses upon the vague charge of bringing troops from Goa, whilst he was never heard in his own defence. He, therefore, solicited from the • House a consideration - of his case, and an investigation into the treatment which he had received ; that the vast power of England need fear no alarm, and that it would tarnish the glory of her Majesty's reign if an individual, once her Majesty's faithful ally, now her prisoner, did not receive her protection. That was the petition which he had received, and as it was one of importance he begged to bring it up; and to move that it be printed. NOTICES OF MOTION. Mr. FUME said that, on Thursday next it would be his duty to bring the subject of the petition which he had just presented, before the House. Dr. BOW RIN G gave notice that he would move early next session for the re-appointment of the Select Com mittee appointed in 1837, to inquire into the mode in which the accounts of the colonies were kept, with the view to some alteration. The Hole. MEMBER also have notice, on the part of the Hon. Mem,:er for Greenock, h that he would move fin a Select Committee to inquire into the official duties ef the Lord Advocate. Mr. lIUME gave notice that ke would move for a re turn to show how 60,000/., granted to those engaged. in the battle of Navarine, was distributed. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE gave netiee that he should, on Monday, move to refer the petition of Dr. M•Doutill and the inhabitants .4 .Deptford to a Select Committee, and that the CoMmittee should.repurt thereon to the House. PUBLIC MONUMENTS. Mr. HAWES • gave notice of his intention, on the ;notion of the Hon. Baronet the Member for Wiltshire being submitted to the House for the erection of a =- raiment to Sir Sydney Smith, to move that the names of Watt, Herschell, and Davy, he added. SOUTHAMPTON ELECTION. -Mr. MACKINNON stated di:A, agreeably to• the notice he had given, it had been his intention to move for the new writ for Southampton ; but in consequence of it having been intimated to him that it weuld be more convenient that the Committee of Supply should be first disposed of, he would postpone his motion till after the Committee of Supply had been gone through. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE hoped that the Hon. Member would name some specific day on which to make his motion. He had a petition from Sciuthampton, praying the suspension of the writ, which he would now present. The Hon. Member having presented the petition, Mr. MACKINNON observed that he would bring the subject forward after the Committee of Supply had been disposed of. Sir J. EASTHOPE wished to know whether it was competent for the Hon. Member to fix his own time to bring forward such a motion ? The SPEAKER said that it was perfectly comp2tent ,7 , 11 the part of any Member to move, at any time, the isst7e of a writ. NOTTINGHAM ELECTION. Mr, S. CRAWFORD said that he had also a motion on the patter for the issuing of a new writ for Notting ham. But is it appeared to be the wish of the House that the Com:nittee of Supply should be proceeded with first, he would k.,ostpone the motion till after the Com mittee of Supply. Mr. V. SMITH wf.'hed to know what course the Go vernment intended to pursue after the disposal of the Committee of Supply ? Sir R. PEEL said that of course those Hon. Mem bers who had postponed their motions, in order that the Committee of Supply might be proceeded with, would have the preference of bringing those measuses forward after the Committee of Supply had been gone through. Mr. O'CONNELL trusted that no measure of import ance would be allowed to be brought forward at a late hour. Mr. SHARMAN CRAWFORD said he found that se veral Hon. Gen tlemen objected to his moving fer the Not tingham writ at for the Committee of Supply. He had no desire to do an vi bittg hostile to her Majesty's Ministers, but it was import ant, under the circumstances, that he should proceed to move for the writ then. Sir ROBERT PEAL said the motion would take the precedence of other bueiteess. Mr. T. DUNCONIB E said he hoped that his Hon. Friend would pemevere in the motion. The Hon. Mem ber opposite (Mr. Mackinnon) had consented to postpone I is motion, and mow it wag to be postponed again. Sir R. PEEL deought that no Member had a right to bring forward a n loam) without notice. There was no notice of the motif m for the Southampton writ, Air. MACKIN:NON—I gave notice a-week ago. Sir R. PEEL—Then it was not on the paper. An Hon. Member might. certainly give notice at four o'clock that he intended to bring fin-ward a motion. He could do that oF right, but it was not in contermity with the practice of tire House, and he should be exceedingly sorry to see that, right often exercised. He thought these notices were for mutual b nefit—Hear hear)—read he did not think that it would be for general coovenience that motions should be brought forward without notice. Ile hoped his Hen. ;Friend would give notice for Monday next for the Souther npten writ._ The SPEAKER , ,said the Right Hon. Gentleman had misunderstood him. The question which had been asked was, whether the Hon . Member could move for the writ. He (the Speaker) sa, : d it was perfectly competent for any Hon. Member to tnove for a new writ at any time without notice. He diet not think it was competent to a Member to give notice at four o'clock. That would not be a notice. If he ,gave notice it must be for a future day, and not the Sane day. Sir R. PEEL said it appeared that notice had been given for the Southampton writ, but it did not appear on the paper. He was referriesg to the metier as a dropped order. Mr. Tif.ACKINNON thought it right to explain one circumstance. On Monday he postponed the Southatnp ton writ, And he did not think it was nocessary for him to renew Ids notice. He was not aware that it was ne cessary. But he most distinctly stated on Monday last that he sihould bring on the Southampton writ this evening. He did not wish to interfere with the public business _in taking the writ previous to the Com mittee of Supply. If the Right Hon. Gentleman wished him to postpone the writ to Monday, he would have it dis tinctly understood Oat he should bring the motion fur ward at half-past finer on Monday. Mr. R. YORKE helped the discussion would take pre cedence of all other motions on Monday, as it was a matter of great import: uice. DANISH CLAIMS. Mr. HUTT rose, but be was rendered almost inaudible from the noise occasioned by Members leaving the House. He said he would detain the House a very short time: He could assure the House that it was with considerable reluctance that he had been led to. bring on a new subject at so late a period of the session, but the parties %rho had en trusted the ca se to his hand's, felt that their interests would be prejueliced by delay. The Danish claims had existed since 1207. In that yoar an expedition was fitted out, for the purpose of guarding the Danish fleet, by this Government. The Danish Government naturally felt exasperated by such a proceeding, and reprisals took place, and the Danish Government confiscated, the book debts of certre;n British subjects ; and, pro seeding further, they seized all British vessels at td British cargoes, which they were en abled to !lay their hands upon. In regard to the first of these, compens ation had beat gr anted ; but the Crown had rgused to make compensation to the other parties, on the ground that they were involved. in the same . ituation as the subjects of all other nations, whose property tell i'nto the hands of enemies :hand, t the first - outbreak of .a war. O n the oth these parizies said this was n ot a true description of the ens e, as the tear had not taken taken place at the tame of the cap tare of their property, and they wcre not apprised whether they were reprisals. That weer the, view taken b: v the claimants themselves, and that; was the light ift which he looked at that subject. The point for the consideration of the House was, whether or not tbu eotr, -se that had been pursued was a declaration of war, —(H ar, hear.) It had been tnaintained that the Covernment of Denmark was, at the period to which he alluded, at war with the Goverranent. of this country ; - :that the Danish Govern ment had seized upon British property by way of reprisals, an d that therefore vat* had commenced be tween the two States. Theo late Attorney-Gene ral the Mi %tuber for Worce cter, who had made the most el :borate and coral Ilete defence of this case, was of ppinion the war* bad actually com menced. But ; unfortunately for .I,is Learned Friend's argument, in a such document as NO been alluded to had been, found in the effice. It was true that a docu te tent had been found i v the office which was o msidered as a declaraCon of war, but the docume n was not looked upon by the Sovereign of Denmark, ex the people of that eonntry, es such a declaration. T hat document emanated from ;1 small town in Devil nark, and it was signed otily by the authoriiiet ; of that town. It was the.-efore with great astonishment that he had he'erd his Learned I h iend the late Attorney-General descri:V that document ins a declara, 4 ,ion of war, It was not con sidered so by I )e.emark nor ay the authorities inthis co rm try. Now, wit) t r..!spect to. -the facts of the case. A Dani sh - vessel, called she Orion, vas captured in the year 1807, and the subj ect of the legality of the capture was brought befo. re the Ad niralty shortly afterwards. Lord Stowell lea': decided that any vessel taken previous to the month of Novemh I- was not a prize of war. Neither the Dani: 1r Goya mment nor the British Go vernment had ever consider ed that we had been at war previous to the de claratio4 t of war by the Govern- diem, (if ieent eee.. ii that were the case, lie contended that the parties now in question were justly entitled to the compensation which they sought. But even though they had not each a title as' could be strictly enforced, the House would recollect, that the equitable right of the parties had been admitted by thernielves upon various occasions: He really thought they would now be hardly justified in reversing their own repeated decisions. And after the House had allowed the claims, it would not become the Government of this great country to shelter themselves under forms or technicalities in refusing them. They should con sider what was due to the dignity of the House of Com mons, and not decline to accede to the repeated mani festations of its wishes. He would not press the subject further upon that occasion. He should only say that' if compensation were denied to these parties, such a course would be discreditable to the Go vernment, unworthy of the character of Parliament. and would remain a scandal on the annals of this country. lie would say no more upon the sub ject, and would not press any motion respecting it. - He should not have brought the matter under the conside ration of the House that evening, in the midst of the many public questions which called for their immediate deliberation, and in the present unsettled State of their finances, were it not that the parties interested felt that their case might be prejudiced by observing a total silence. He had introduced the subject, principally . for the purpose of reserving the rights of parties, and in order that it might not be sup posed upon any future occasion that they had abandoned their claims. Mr. HUME was glad that his Hon, Friend did not intend to press his motion. In seconding that motion he was anxious to make one or two observations. This question was one in which the national honour wa s concerned, and it had been longer before the House than any other. Twenty-three years ago he (Mr. Hume) had first divided in favour of these claims. Then the whole of the claims were refused. Since then, after a lapse of twenty years, two-thirds or those claims had been granted, and one-third only now remained. After three decisions of the House in favour 4,f those clainis, faith ought to have been kept with the claimants. He thought that both the late Government and the present Government in refusing justice to these claimants, were wrong. If there were any error in regard to dates, that ought not to stand in the way of their doing justice. In the estimates for the present year they had voted a sum of 10,000/. to settle some Portuguese claims, which were due in 1810. Therefore, the length of time which had elapsed ought not to prevent justice from being done. Her Majesty's Government were willing to pay away money where there was no claim, but they refused to pay a just claim. This • obstinate denial of justice was discreditable to the Government. They had voted a sum to liquidate the claims of M. Sampayo, which had accrued from 1808 to 1814. There had been no objection made to pay the foreigner, why should there be any objection to pay the English claimants? He hoped that the Government would see the pro priety of taking the question into their serious consi deration before the next session, and would pay the last third due - to the Danish claimants ; who would, even if that was paid, suffer severe loss, inasmuch as they would only have been paid the princi pal, and have lost the interest for thirty-five years. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, un derstanding that the Honourable Gentleman had brought forward his motion merely with a view of entering his protest; thought discussion unne cessary at present, and would therefore not enter into the merits of the . case. He (the Chan cellor of the Exchequer) had already expressed his opi nion on those claiMs, which expression of opinion had not been given merely since he sat on that side of the House, for when he had sat on the other side he had supported the then Chancellor of the Exchequer in his opposition to these claims. He agreed with the Hon. Member fur Montrose, that if a claim was a just one, length of time could be no bar to it.; admission, but he could not agree that because they had voted a emu of money to M. Sampayo, that, theref4o, - they ought to vote a sum of money to the Danish claimants. The claim of M. Sa:npayo was admitted, ; th e only question in debate was as to amount, in the ascertaining of which time of course had been occupied. The discussion of the Danish claims rested upon a dif ferent footing. He could not admit the justice of those claims. The concession of them would involve the country in incalculable expense on some future occasion.—(Hear, hear.) He could not find anything in the law of nations to justify th::se claims. When the Hon. Gentleman brought the subject before the House, he would go fully into it ; but understanding that the Hon. Gentleman did not mean to press his motion, he would not go further into the question, which could only be further discussed to the interruption of other business. The motion was then withdrawn. SINGING CLASSES. Lord PALMERSTON wished to ask, in reference to what had fallen from the Right lion. Baronet the other evening, whether it was his intention to propose any grant in the supplemental estimates for the singing classes in Exeter Hall. Sir R. PEEL would repeat the observation he had made on a former occasion, in reference to these classes, which were principally for the instruction of schoolmasters in singing.--(Hear.) In his opinion it would be a great public advantage to afford increased encouragement to the education of those persons in singing ; but lie was not prepared to move any specific vote for that purpose during the present year. There were various claims from different parts of the country on the subject : it was one that required inve.ti gation and consideration, and the Government would not be prepared to propose any grant this year. AMERICAN CORN. Me. THORNELY said he had received statements from several merchants connected with - the American trade. It seemed that they had learned from the reports of the debates in Parliament, that the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir R. feel) lied lately ass r e a rted, on the autho rity A* Mr. I\l‘Culloch, that no get amouf corn could be imported from America, and that the principal importation, into this country would be from Dasttzic. lhese merchants stated they laboured under great dieted vantages from the operation of the sliding scale. They also wished the Government to be reminded that there was a paper laid on the table of the House in February last, from which, it appeared that the exports of the United States, from the year 1790 to the year 1838, -Of wheaten flour alone had been 1,100,000 barrels per annum ; and they state that if they were exempt from the operation oldie sliding scale they could supply this country with a considerable quantity of provisions. One of these gentlemen stated that he would import corn if there were a fixed duty, but that now not knowing whether the duty would be Bs. or 18s. per quarter, he did not venture to import it. It had been said, on the authority of Mr. M`Culloch, that America herself had imported corn, but that occurred only in the year 1837; and then it imported only 500,000 quartets; that was an unusual circumstance, and even at that time exportation was going in many . of the American ports. He had thought it right to make these statements because many gentlemen had been under the apprehension that the Government had nut properly considered the subject. He was sure that the Right Hon. Baronet at the head of the Govern ment must be as anxious as any to increase our trade with the United States of America. Sir R. PEEL said of course he could only answer for himself. and this would be admitted by the Hon. Gentle man, that supposing in any one year, from particular cir cumstances, there should be a failure of the harvest in America, and they should import corn to any great ektent, no inference could be drawn from this casual circumstance. It was of great importance that they should extend their trade with the United States ; but there was this inconvenience in dis cussing- these questions in the House of Commons, that when any one corrected what he considered an exagge rated statement, he was supposed to entertain an opinion the very opposite to it. Thus, because he had doubted some statements of the probable amount of the importation of corn from America, it was thought he had been represented as believing that no corn would be imported at all front that country, and that he had told the agricultural interest that no such importation would take place He believed the statement to be an exagge ration, and that was all the observation he had made. He did not entertain the opinion that had been as cribed to him, for he believed that flour would be brought into this country from the United States under the existing law, and in considerable quantities ; and he should be sorry if the law should interfere with the trade in flour and provithms between the two countries. Mr. EWART said he had understood the Right Hon. Baronet to say that considerable quantities of ,torn and flour would be imported from America under the exist ing law. .Now if - the law did not have that effect, they should have a claim on the Right Hon. Baronet for the re-consideration of that law. • He should bear in mind the declaration the Right Hon. Baronet had made this day. Mr. WILLIAMS said that from what he had seen of the country, he believed that a considerable quantity of flour and provisions, the produce of the western States, would be brought in. But of course the cost of the transit would be very great. It was not generally known that the Americans were the largest consumers of artic:es of clothing in the world. They were the best clothed people he ever saw , and he had been throu g h m ecl of the countries of Euro p e. An American would deprive 'himelf of almost any comfort rather than not be well dressed according to the average opinion. There never was a more favourable period for their entering into a commercial treaty chwith America. AMerica wes• a ange in •her tariff; but there o v, n os th o e s e o e n o g f w p i i i i i t ( knhgithis thieve e o m o o n s t t r, anxious and if . her earn Majesty'si e reased inter: Th e e establish a favourable treaty of commerce. Government encouraged that disposition they could SUPPLY. Mr. GREENE in the Chair. st:: ouse then went into a Committee of Supply , On the vote of 70,000/. for the civil contingencies being proposed. Mr. 'WILLIAMS said that there were many of the items. which composed this sum, which he could not pass by without notice. The first item he objected to was that of 96L, for defraying the expenses of the Bishop of Exeter to the Scilly islands. The passage, at the ut most, would not take more than twenty-tour hours, and here was a sum of 481. a day to defray hie conveyance, whilst, he believed, he received 6,00 C/. a year from his see. He thought it would be well for the Bishop to read the Scriptures, and see how the Apostles acted. He te K d eo t t o n,i 6 sv : oolepsree f ome b fe r .ive th d e 3o 7 o o o e o r l t . ai a n y m e e a n r ts fro t m o t t lr e . vtwheaF shortn 1 o e D ne t x le t he o s b s je o c f co untry. woef f et h ri e :e r: was next a sum of 20/. 55., for the con Jerusalem eompared w t i o th eT t e h ff a a t p ; a w id hi f c o h r passage of the Bishop of Exeter, The next item was 2351., tor certain voyages on the Lakes of Ca nada,perforined by Lord Sydenham, who received 7,000/ a year. By doing away with the Embassies to Sardinia and Tuscany, a saving of 5,000/. would be effected. There was then a charge of 87/, sos,, for entertaining the Crown Prince of Bavaria from Athens to An cona. He did not see why the people of this coun try should be taxed for the entertainment of such a Prince. There -mos then - another • charge of 3341., for defraying the expanses. of eMres Robert StewarL her Majesty's- Charge do Affaires foil New Grenada, from Liverpool. —Now, he. had gone that distance, himself;-and-lee eionld ..not conceive how side art -exierse, had been incurred. Many sal the other items were r qually extravagant and uncalled for. H e found an item of 500/. allowed to Sir George Arthur for the expenses of his pas sage home from Canada. Now -he "(Mr. Williams) con tended it was impossible that Sir G. Arthur could have spent such a sum. A sum of 4221. was allowed for the robes and collars of the Knights of the different Orders. Now he contended that that was a charge which should never have been borne by the public. There was an item of 559/. allowed to Mr. Walker for works connected with the Caledonian Canal. Now he certainly thought that that item should have been placed among the expenses connected with the Canal, and not among the present estimates. In the same way he found in those estimates an allowance for carrying into effect the arrangements connected with the penny-postage, which should be placed under the head of the 'Post-office de partment. He found that a sum of 923/. was allowed to Lord Campbell for the expenses of his outfit to Ireland as Lord Chancellor. Now he (Mr. Williams) contended that the pub lic had no right to be saddled with such a charge as that. There was one other item, with which he did not intend to find fault, but. he thought there might he some new regulation with respect to it. The item was 3401. to Sir Thomas Richer ; he had no objection to the item, as it was deserved by Sir Thomas Richer, for his services to the public ; but he (Mr. Williams) thought that there should be offices for such persons to fill. Colonel SIBTUORP said these things were the acts of the late Government, and the Honourable Gentleman had supported them in and out of office. Look at the expenses they had caused. He had often complained of their -innumerable Commissions. He had a great objection to the whole of those Commissions, and he could wish to see them burnt, as some of them had been. He never saw such a profligate Government, and he hoped he never should see another. He was surprised that the Hon. Member for Coventry should still sit behind that Government when they were disgraced. —(Laughter.) The Hon. Gentleman had missed one item of their work, and that was the imperial penny postage job.—(Laughter.) Then there was the item to Mr. Rowland Hill of 1,5001., and the item to Mr. Cole. But the greatest of all was the Mont eagle job, added to the Campbell job—a pretty pair. With re gard to the outfit for Lord Campbell, he thought that the articles purchased with that money ought to be returned and sold.—( A laugh.) They would produce but little, but in the present exhausted state of the Treasury the smallest deflation would be thankfully received—(ot laugh)—or they might be kept a; an exhibition, to show the job which had been perpetrated. If the Hon. Gentleman would divide the House against that vote, he would divide with him. Doubtless, he should be told, as he had been when he had ob jected to the vote of 16,000/. to the Memleer for 13olton for his expenses in his travels, that the money had been paid. The grant was a gross and unpardonable grant., and he looked for present Government. If something not have his ,support. , -. 'ds for a low, niggardly eco yetdhidi (Oppositionn n g ot better cd hoeeer f st r t. oc r beg ee y il w l a a ss j i s oo t ut y l eco nomy, but he was for a proper economy. This expense had been incurred after that House had come to a vote of want of confidence in the late Government, and it was disgraceful. Sir C. NAPIER said he could not at all understand the al lowance of 96/. for a visit, to the Scilly Islands. He had carried Governors and Commissioners on variotts occasions, and had always found the sum allowed most ample. He thought the sum required explanation. Sir GEORGE CLERK said the charge was one which was made in 1538. He believed the Bishop, accompanied by several other persons went to make a visitation to the Scilly Islands. It was not fair to say that he went merely on a voyage which would occupy two days. It was perfectly clear that the expense must depend greatly tipon the length of time during which the Bishop was engaged in performing his visi tation. With regard to the payment of 500/. to Captain Pringle, that officer accompanied Lord Sydenham to Canada, at his Lordship's particular request, mid having remained there a year, the Secretary of State fir the Colonies, certified that in his opinion 500/. was a fair compensation for his services. With regard to the part of the vote for the management of the Poet-office, he stated that the first agreement with Mr. Row land Hill to superintend his system of postage was for two years ; the present Government renewed that engagement for one year more, which would -expire at the end of the present quarter,ewhen Mr. Rowland 11.1.1 would be informed that it was not necessary that his services should be continued. The system was now so perfect that the authorities, both at the Post-office and the Treasury, were quite competent to carry it on without his superintendence. After a few words from Colonel Siamese and Mr. B. WALL, which were inaudible, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that the late Government thought it fit that a steam-boat should be provided for conveying the Bishop of Exeter to the Scilly Islands. Mr. HUME believed that no individual who was ever em ployed in the public service had been worse paid than his Hon. Friend, the Member for Bolton. He was only paid at the same rate as other Commissioners, but, contrary to the usual practice, he never was paid a shilling except when on actual duty ; and lie (Mr. Home) knew that there was a balance now due to the Hon. Gentleman, who never had been paid, very much, as he (Mr, Hume) thought, to the discredit cf the late Government. (The Hon. Member then objected to a viriety of items included in this grant, and requested an explanation of certain of them, more particularly the sum of 20,000/. for postages, and the extra expenses of the Foreign Ministers.) Sir GEORGE CLERK explained, but was inaudible. Lord PALMERSTON said if Hon. Members were aware of the practical utility of civil mi.sions they surely would not object to any expenses that might be incurred in carrying them out.—( Cheers.) With regard to what had been said re:ative tote claim of his Hon. Friend for Belton, it was quite true that there was a suns due to him which had not been paid by the late Government. He was not aware of any reason for rot satisfying the Hon. Gentleman's &aim, and he (Lord Palmerston) far one should suppOrt any vote for his payment. —( Hear, hear.) The House was probably aware that the amounts fixed on the civil list were only the salaries of the Ministers, and did not include any incidental expenses such as messengers, carriers, postages, &c. He (Lord Palmerston) had, whn in office, reduced the salaries of those employed on .the diplomatic service considerably, and he believed their sala ries were now quite as low as those of the Ministers of France, Austria, and other parts. He was firmly convinced, with regard to our diplomatic services, that no Go vernment in Europe—no Government in the world, was so well served as 'the Government of this country ' had been during the time he had a knowledge of the manner in which they had performed their services. The expenses of postage were also fixed according to a certain regulation. BOWRING wished to call the attention of the House to the importance of having direct communication with the Turklith Government:. believed, at that moment, they had no means of holding any intercourse with the-Sovereign, except by the agency of-strangers, and he thought that was a state of things which ought to be remedied. The state of things at present was very unsatisfactory. Many of the families from which the dragomans were taken, had reached a state of opulence, and the interests of the country, and one or two others, were entirely in their hands. Sir R. PEEL said circumstances had lately occurred which showed that an improvement had taken place, and that this country was net now entirely dependent on the dragomans. Dr. BOWRING was convinced if English feelings were represented by English manners in oriental countries the best results would be effected. Lord PALMERSTON believed that the foreign dragomans who had been in the service had performed their duty in a most proper manner. Sir C. NAPIER said he observed that a sum of 1,600/. was set down as an allowance for the Commissioners for the settle ment of Portuguese claims. It appeared to him that it would lie better to allow those gentlemen a certain sum in case the claims were finally adjusted than to grant them a yearly allow ance. He would also suggest that captains of steam boats generally at anchor in any port should be allowed an additional sum for the increased expenditure to which their position necessarily subjected them. Sir ROBERT PEEL had heard many complaints of delay and dilatoriness. He had requested his Noble Friend the Secre tary of State for Foreign Affairs to make inquiries on the sub ject, and he believed that no unnecessary delay had been inter posed. In fact he was satisfied that the utmost diligence had been used by the Commissioners. The claims were, some of them, of a very peculiar nature. Some most extravagant demands had been made. It was but just, both to the claimants themselves and to the Portuguese Government. that these claims should be strictly examined and scrutinized oetore they were admitted. He was not inclined to interfere with the Com missioners. After &few- words from Sir G. Cooouns and Sir C. NAPIER, Colonel SIB I'HORP expressed his surprise that the Hon. Member for Montrose had not objected to the additional sum of money which it was proposed to pay to the Hon. Member for Bolton. He (Colonel Sibthorp) did not wish to derogate from the merits of the Hon. Gentleman; but he had objected to the former grants, and as the late Government had not brought the grant forward last year, he hoped the present Government would object to it, and leave the Members of the late Government to pay it themselves. He should certainly oppose the g rant. Mr. WILLIAMS objected to the vote for the passage money of the legal advisers of embassadors. After a short discussion, Mr. HUME wished to know if ever there was such an allow ance made to any Chancellor of Ireland as to Lord Carnpell ? Lord PALMERSTON said it was the usual allowance. The vote was then agreed to. The sum of 10,000/. was proposed for public education in Great Britain. Mr. E WART wished to know if this vote was to be distri buted between the National and British and Foreign Schools. Sir G. CLERK answered in the affirmative. Dr. BO WRING wished to know, as a good deal had been said about instruction in singing, and .Mr. Hullah's system, whether Mr. Mainzer's claims were to be taken into consideration. Mr. HUME s:id his Hon. Friend had perhaps not heard the announcement of the Secretary for the Home Department that it was not the intention of Government to proceed at all in the matter this session. Mr. COWPER regretted that the Government had not done more than make a promise on this subject; he had hoped that a grant would have been made towards the encou ragement of singing. Mr. HOWARD complained that whilst the Catholic Mem bers dai'y votedlargesuins of money to exclusively Protestant purposes without opposing ther, H3O. Members on the other side were constantly c o mplaining of th e small sum annually 'voted to Maynooth. The Catholics formed by no means an inconsiderable portion of the community, and their claims ought not in his (Mr. How ard's) o p inion, to be overlooked. Mr. O'CONNELL said that this was a grant to which every-individual iwthe commmunity was called on to contri bute,as it was at present t . • and from which, istributed, no Ca tholic could benefit. "lbeee were two Soci e ti es aut h or i ze d to superintend the distribution of this grant, the National School Society and the British and Foreign School Society. The first was a Society connected with the Established Church, and the second was connected with the Protestant Dissenters. The Catholics were, th ere f ore, necessarily ca eluded from deriving any benefit from this grant, rot by any direct rule, but because they could not cou. ,.. eientious _ y I send their children to the schools- under the superintendence of these Societies. The want of a particip at i on i n this grant was felt most severely by th e Cath o lics in E ng l an d —a large portion of the lower orders we re Catho li cs. A great many poor Irish Ca tholics who came to England fur employment were absolutely de prived of the mean.; of e ducating their child ren. It was not fair, nor just, nor reasonable , that the benefit of the grant shouldbe con fined to Protestants, it ought to be for the education of the chil dren of the people of England generally. He had pressed the Noble Lord, late at the head of the Government, en this subject, and h he believed that N oble Lord ati been as ready to resist him as gentlemen on the other side. Some years ago, in the State of New York, the educational grant h had been given to a Volun tary Society, constituted on en s c o e m t e h w at similar principles to this Society ; and in consequence the last session Catholics had been able to participate in it ; but during . session a law had been all Christians on a footing of putting pas.ed, fo ll owe d. He equality. That example ought to be Id be devotedhoped that, for the future a portion of the gra nt wou _ to the Catholic Schools. They did not wis h to escape froms9peri n t en d ence ; on t h e con . teary, they invited the utmost vigilance, and were willing to conform to any regulations that might be laid down in mattersof literature, mor als, and manners. All they asked was, that Catholics should be educated in their own religion, The grant was then agreed to, The next vote proposed was that a sum not exceeding 59,93 E/. sl.olld be granted to her Majesty to liquidate bills drawn by tl.e Governor of South Australia since 1840. Mr. HUME wished to know why the people of this country should be called Upon to pay so large a sum of money. The Governor of the Colony had exceeded his authority, and in stead of compelling the colony to pay the amount due, they had already given them several large sums of money, and were now proposing to grant them a still further sum. Certain speculators had advanced sums of money to the colony at ten per cent. and at six per cent., and interest had been paid them at those rates for seven years. Now the revenue of the colony was deficient, they applied to the Government. Why were they not left to their security The Governor had been pursuing a career of reckless extravagance, and now the Chancellor of the Ex chequer came forward to take the risk from off the colony. Why was not the land in the colony sold to repay the money "? The people of England were not to be taxed because the Go vernor of the Colony was unfit for his situation. He should certainly take the sense of the flGu-e on the subject. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that persons had been induced to emigrate to the colony on the f ,ith of an Act of Parliament. They were in a state of starvation, and this money was necessary to relieve them. If they had remained in England, they would have been entitled to relief, and they had not forfeited that right by going to the colony or. the faith of an Act of Parliament. Government had ordered measures to be taken to remove those colonists who were not likely to be able to maintain themselves to New South Wales, or to rime other colony where they might gain a livelihood. Mr. B. WOOD wished to know if this was a gift or a loan ? Lord STANLEY—A grant.—(A laugh.) Mr. B. WOOD called that a gilt, and he should certainly vote againbt such a squandering of public money. The Com mittee of last sear had recommended a loan, that loan had since been converted into a gift of nearly 400,0001., and now they were to vote this further sum. Why did they not leave these debts chargeable on the colony, if the colony should hereafter be able to liquidate them ? He should like to know tke names of the parties who had advanced this money at such a rate of interest. The house ought not to sanction such a grant, and he should divide against it. Lord STANLEY had so frequently discussed the general question, that he felt disinclined to enter into it. Orders had been sent out to the Governor not to draw any more bills, and it bad been supposed that those orders would reach him in January, they had net, however, reached him until April, and this grant was to meet bills which he bad drawn between the months of January and April. Mr. P. HOWARD deprecated the depreciation of the colony in the public view, which would be the result of the propagation of the opinions propounded by Hon. Gentlemen on that (the Opposition) side of the House. The Committee then divided, when the numbers were— For the vote Against it • Majority for the vote . During our absence from the gallery the next vote was put, and we found Sir G. CLERK explaining, in reply to a question from Mr. Hume, that the extra sum required by this vote was entirely for the war in China. The reinforcements demanded by the East India Company amounted to six regiments, the expense of which was charged partly upon the revenues of India, and partly upon those of this country. Sir C. NAPIER, before the vote was put, brought forward a statement of the faulty system of naval promotion, strongly urging the necessity of going into a thorough consideration of the subject by the Government. The long period which the mates and midshipmen were kept waiting, was most injurious to the service of the country. The young men who entered the navy were disheartened, and quitted the service in disgust. He had always, in Parliament and out of it, urged this subject on the consideration of the Admiralty, of whatever party it might be, and he did so from a strong conviction of the necessity of it. Ile had no personal interest in the matter, for nothing any Mi nistry could do for him could add to the position in which he stood. Sir G. COCKBURN explained, that though the suc cesses in Cnina had occurred at the close of the last year, yet the accounts of them did not reach England till the com mencement of the present one. No' officers had been pro moted from this expedition except those who had distinguished themselves. But there had been some promotions (this year particularly) of officers who had been six and seven years on the coast of Africa, some of whom had returned the only officers left alive in their respective vessels ; all the rest having died. All the officers of the Niger expedition who remained had got a step in rank ; these officers they had considered, were particularly entitled to their promotion.—( Hear.) With respect to the promotion of mates, the Admiralty had resolved not to promote any who had not passed their examination in 1835. The young officers that had been promoted were men who had shown themselves conspicuous in their actions in Syria or in China. All he wished was, that those who complained of the appointments that had been made could only hear the claims that had been put forward, and the strong grounds on which they had been supported.—( Heat, hear.) Sir C. NAPIER was sure that no one would complain of the conduct of the Admiralty, if they would clear off all those officers who were unfit for service, and then lay down a regular rul- for promotion in the navy.—(Hear, hear:) Mr. HUME was afraid that that the Gallant Officer's zeal for the navy had made him forgetful of the public purse. The public at the present moment were paying 4,000 officers, and not more than 800 were employed. By and bye he would show the House how promotions had taken place, and that mere boys had been advanced over the heads of deserving officers. Such was the sys em at the present moment, that the navy was nothing but a pension list for the aristocracy.—( Hear. ) Ihe promotions made by the present Government were mere tl'an when they lad a thousand pennants flying. How many Gallant Officers, he would ask, had had their hearts broken by seeing young men—he might say boys—who could hardly nalk, played ever their heads ?—( Hear.) He protested against any promotion being made until a proper establish n ent was laid down.—( Hear, hear.) In his opinion, the pre nt system was alculated to maintain only idle people. Alter a few words from Sir C. NAPIER and 11r. HOME, Captain PLUMRIDGE said the course the present Govern ment hart pursued in promoting mates had given the greatest satisfaction. He thought it was unfair to say that all promo tion went by patronage, because he stood in that House an in stance that such was not the case.—(Hear.) Mr. D'ISRAELI wished to know whether the Government could inform the Committee when it was probable that the war in China would be brought to a termination? Sir R. PEEL said it was impossible for him to say when the war might be brought to a conclusion, as that would depend on contingencies which he could not define nor foresee. All he ceuld say was, that her Majesty's Government would not regard a temporary expense in the hope of bringing the war to a satis factirs termination. Mr. D'ISRAELI said he was persuaded that we had hitherto carried on the war upon an erroneous principle. He stated it upon the authority nf an informant thoroughly conversant with the subject, that if we had carried on the war against the Chinese people, and against their commerce, instead of carrying it on against the Government, the war would have been long ago terminated. Sir R. PEEL said that if we carried on the war against Chinese commerce, it was a question whether we would not be carrying it on at the same time against British commerce.— ( Hear, hear.) lie doubted the justice or the policy of exer cising the utmost severities in our power against the people of China.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. O'CONNELL—Especially as the cause of the war is not so very clearly a just cause.--( Hear, hear.) The vote, which was a sum of 217,9511. for the expenses of the war in China was then agreed to. A sum of 500,0001. was voted to make up the deficiency in the supplies of the previous year. A sum of b 33,1771. was voted for defraying the expenses of Ordnance works and repairs, barrack-masters' expenses, &c. for the year 1842-43. The resolutions were then agreed to, the House resumed, and the Chairman reported progress.—Report to-morrow (this day). NOTTINGHANI WRIT. - SO ASSIZE INTELLIGENCE, HOME ClRCUlT.—Guildford, July 29. CROWN COURT.—(Before Mr, Justice COLTMAN.) Martha Robinson, 22, a pretty looking young woman, was indicted for the wilful murder of her male illegitimate child, by -biking and casting it to the ground, and by strangling and suf focating it. In another count the prisoner was stated to have caused the death of her offspring by divers ways and means un known to the jurors , and Thomas Robinson, 58, the father of the prisoner, was indicated for being feloniously present aiding and assisting the female prisoner to commit the alleged felony and murder. Both the prisoners were dreadfully affected when they were placed at the bar, and when the prisoner Martha had pleaded, she fell to the around almost immediately insensible, and was in that gate removed from the dock. Mr. Clarkson, who was instructed for the prosecution, had a communication with the Court ; it was arranged that the trials of the prisoners should be taken seperately, and that of the male prisoner was first proceeded with. Mr. Charnock defended the prisoner. Mr. CLARKSON addressed the Jury, and said they would have gathered from the indictment that had just been read, the dreadful character of the charge imputed to the prisoner, who, in effect, was accused of having assisted his own daughter to murder her offspring. The Learned Counsel went on to say, that the prisoner might have reason to be thankful for the humanity of the laws of his country, and also the humanity with which they were adminstered ; and he observed that the Learned Judge who presided having found, from the depositions, that the fe male prisoner bad made statements which would not be, le gaily, evidence against the man, but which, if the prisoners were tried together, must be received as against 'herself, and would thus prejudice her father, it had been thought that the cases should be taken separately, and this would explain the eourse that had been adopted. The Learned Counsel then pro ceeded to detail the facts of the case as they were afterwards detailed in evidence, and of which the following is a narrative : It appeared that the prisoner and his daughter lived to gether in a place called Ruffey's-buildings at Camberwell, and for some time prior to the 4th July, a suspicion was entertained that the woman was in the family way, but both she and her father denied the fact, and the latter, it ap peared had been very angry with some of the neighbours for making such an assertion. On that day, however, it became apparent that the suspicion was a true one, for the girl was delivered of a child, and the prisoner called in some of the persons living near him, and a dead child was found under the bed. The child appeared to be full grown and healthy, and there were marks of severe violence upon its person. The head was very much bruised. The feet and legs were likewise bruised and scarified, the left arm was cut, and there was a mark round the neck, as though a ligature had been very tightly applied to it. Upon a post modem examination, it was discovered that the brain was suffused with blood, and the longitudinal sinus, or large blood vessel that passes across the head, had been ruptured by some severe blow, and the surgeons who were examined, expressed a confident opinion that the child was born alive, and that its death was occasioned by the violence that had been offered to it. The way in which the crime was sought to be made out against the prisoner was his contradic tory statements upon the subject, and also some expressions alleged to have been made use of by his daughter, in his pre sence, to the effect that he had committed the violence upon the child, and that she knew nothing of it. Two sons of the prisoner were also examined in support of the prosecution, and one of them stated that he slept with the prisoner in the room it which his sister also slept, and on the night on which it was supposed the child was born, he was awoke in the night, and he saw his father carrying his sister up stairs, and he heard her say—Do let me rest a little, and afterwards ask her father not to tell anybody about it, and he replied that he wouid:not. After this, it appeared the prisoner went down and get a pail of water, and was seen to be washing up some stains of blood. It was proved also by another son, that the prisoner wanted him to ask his wife to lend Martha some baby linen to put into her box, in order that it might appear she had made some pro s vision, in expectation of having a child. This witness also t proved that his sister, in the prisoner's presence, told him that she had been delivered of a child, but that it was dead,:and,'she had placed it in a bard-box, and her father knew nothing about it, and site wished to bear all the blame. Mr. CLIA KNOCK addressed the Jury at some length on be half of the prisoner, and contended that however strong and horrible the suspicion might be against him, yet that, in the absence of direct proof, they would not be justified in return ing a Terri:et of guilty, the effect of which would inevitably be to sacrifice the life of the prisoner. He theta proceeded to comment upon the facts, end submitted to the Jury, that the conduct imputed to the prisoner might be very fairly attributed to the natural feelings of a father, who was desirous of shield ing his (laughter from the disgrace she had incurred. Mr. Justice COLTMAN then went through the evidence with great minuteness, and left the case in the hands of the jury, who retired, and were absent from Court about an hour, when they returned a verdict of Not Guilty. r Henry Cramer surrendered in discharge of his recognizances to answer a charge of misdemeanour, preferred against him at the instance of the Croydon Railway Company. , The case has been before the public during the last few days. r The defendant, it will be recollected, by stupidly endeavouring to get from one carriage to another, while the train was in mo tion, was the occasion of one of the servants of the Company Mr. S. CRAWFOnn said that the reason he took upon himself to move for a new writ for the borough of Notting ham was, that 1,700 electors and inhabitants of that place in trusted a petition to him on the subject, which he presented to that House, and which prayed for the issuing of a writ. He did not say whether the writ should be issued or not ; he thought the time was come when the House should come to some derision on the subject. He was entitled to say on the part of those whom ha repre sented that they viewed the practices which were brought to light by the late Committee with disfavour. It had been said that the object of that Committee was not to punish individuals, but if the writ was suspended the electors of Nottingham would be isuniihed. It might be said that the writ ought to be suspended till remedial measures were adopted, but there was a Bill now before the House the 19th clause of which would apply to the coming election. He should therefore move that in pursuance of a petition from a large number of electors and inhabitants o; the town of Nottingham, a new writ be issued for that, borough. Sir R. INGLIS seconded the motion. killed. The Magistrates who heard the case, decided upon making the defendant enter into sureties to appear at these assizes, and 11r. Bodkin now attended on behalf of the Company, to prefer a charge of misdemeanor. The indictment against the defendant alleged that he, being a passenger upon the Croydon Railway, unlawfully endangered the lives of the other passengers. The defendant expressed his regret for his conduct, and said 'that with the permission cf the Court, he would plead guilty to the charge. Mr. Justice CourstAN, having looked at the depositions and at the indictment, expressed a doubt whether the charge could have been supported, and as the defendant had pleaded guilty, he thought that, under these circumstances, it was only a case for a nominal penalty. Mr. Bonet: said the indictment had been framed under some section of the Croydon Railway Act, which made any act, or any thing done likely to endanger the safety of the passengers upon the line, a misdemeanour. Ile believed this was the first charge of the kind that had been made under the clause in question, and he was free to express that he felt a doubt whether it was intended to apply to such an act as that had been committed b`• the defendant. As, how ever, the Magistrate had thought fit to order him to find sure ties to answer the charge, the Company felt it was their duty to the public to show that they were willing to adopt every pro ceeding that might be necessary to ensure their safety. Mr. Justice COLTMAN said the Company had acted very properly, but he was of opinion that the charge could not have been legally supported. As, however, the defendant had thought fit to plead guilty to the charge, the sentence upon him was, that he should pay a fine of forty shillings. The fine was immediatetly paid, and the defendant was dis charged from custody. Mr. HUME said that he voted on a former occasion agains the writ being issued, but from what had taken place last night he did not intend to pursue the same course now. He thought that as they were only acting a farce by the measures which they had taken, it was better that the writs should be hailed far all places with regard to which the writs were at present suspended. He considered the House had stultified itself by its late proceedings, and he did not know how the Right Hon. Baronet could justify his inconsistency. Mr. BERNAL said that if he had been in the House last night he would not have been one of the minority. He was one of those who did not look with so much horror upon these compromises, which was the result of a vicious system, or upon the system under which they were made, and which was accu mulating disgrace upon that House, and to destroy which they had not advanced a single step. Sir R. PEEL said that he had agreed to the suspension of the writ when it was proposed to inquire into certain cor rupt practices, areged to have taken place in the borough of Nottingham, but now that inquiry having taken place, and the Re port being made, which did not recommend any steps to be taken to disfranchise the borough, he did not think it would be con stitutional to assent now to the suspension of the writ.--( Hear, hear.) By the Bill which was uow before the House, he ap prehended that any person who was guilty of treating before the testing of the writ, would be subject to the loss of his seat. And he thought it would be advisable to introduce a clause into that Bill, making treating, either before or after the test ing of the writ, an illegal act, when committed for the purpose of corrupting voters ' of which the Committee was to be the judge.—( Hear, hear.) By destroying the distinction in point of time, and making all treating an offence against the law, he thought they did all in their power, as far as the law was concerned, to put an end to the practice.—( Hear.) The Right Hon. Baronet then read the provisions of the present law re specting treating, and the penalty annexed—the loss of the seat to the Member—and said that if the distinction in point of time were removed, and the additional punishment of rendering the Member incapable of sitting in Parliament, that everything, as far as was possible to have it done by law, was effected to put an end to the system altogether.—(Hear, hear.) He did . not know whether such a clause would pass the other Howie of Parliament, but at all events he would be no party to its de feat.--( Hear, hear.) With regard to what had fallen from the Hcn. Member for Montrose , _ as to inconsistency and stultification, he must say, that though it was hard to be angry with him, whatever he said—(Laughter) —the Honourable Gentleman was himself disposed to be tsrannical.in many things, and was inclined to act the part of a tyrant towards those who (lid not concur with him in opation.—( Laughter.) He thought it would be better if the Hon. Gentleman gave credit to those who differed from him in opinion for being influenced by honourable motives, than to act on a principle which was the foundation of all intolerance— namely, that of assuming lam right and you are wrong." Mr. El UM E denied being the intolerant person he was de scribed to be by the Right Hon. Baronet. But he did not see how the Right Hon. Baronet could explain his conduct.. Sir R. PEEL said that the Hon. Gentleman had accused him of being an encourager of all corruption and abomination last night. Mr. HUME said that if the Right Hon. Baronet alluded to last night, he would adhere to what he said.—( Laughter. ) Mr. \'ARD said that he 'thought a person might vete against the resolutions of last night without any inconsistency. Alter what had taken place last night, he did not see how they could refuse to assent to the motion of the Hon. Member. But he assented to it on the unders'anding that the Bill now before the House ss culd have the support of the Government in another !ilace. After a few words from Mr. R. YORKE, Lord PALMERSTON said that as it seemed to be the wis' a f the House that the writ should issue, he would net °Rose MIDLAND CIRCUIT—Derby, July 2S. CIVIL SlDE.—(Before Mr. Justice PATTESON. ) PEKFONATION AT AN ELECTION.-TIIE QUEEN V. JOHN BUCKNALL. Mr. Miller conducted the prosecution, and Mr. Clarke, with whom was Mr. Kearsall, appeared for the defendant. The indictment charged the defendant with perjury, and giving false answers to the questions directed to be put by the Reform Act, at the election for the southern ilivision of Derby shire, cis the 13th July, 1841. Mr. CLARKE, on the part of the defendant„said his client was a respectable butcher and farmer, living at Barrow-upon- Trent ; the property for which he voted was his own. His father, who possessed it before him, had been dead four years, and he shculd prove that a claim was made to 'rave the de- • fendant registered soon titer his father's death, but that Mr. Cordcn, the Secret at y to the South Derby Conservative Society, had given the name of Thomas instead of John to the overseer when he made the claim. He should also show that when a voting card was sent to the defendant, addressed to him as " Thomas Bucknall," he went to Mr. Corden, and told him 1 that he could not vote, and did not wish to do so, as his name was not Thomas. Mr. Corden, however, replied that he had a right to vote, as he was the person me an t on the re g i s ter, and C it was his (Mr. Corden' s) fault that the wrong name had been given. He should show that the defendant had been called Thomas generally, and also Sampson, and George, as well as John. —( Laughter. ) When he scent Sc' vote, he was asked if his name was Thomas Bucknall, and he said, " No ; Samp son."—(Loud laughter.) The Learned JUDGE here suggested that if Mr. Clarke could prove such facts, it was useless to go on, as the defendant was charged with " wilful and corrupt perjury," and if it were shown that he had been advi s ed byMr. Corden that he was entitled to vote, the charge could not be made out. against him. Mr. CLARKE then called Mr. Corden, who proved the Learned Counsel's statements. On cross-examination, he said that he had not made the claim at the request of the defendant. It was usual for the Conservative Society to make claims for persons on whose support they could calculate, without con sulting them, or having their authority. Mr. MILLER thought it right to state that his clients were entirely in the d ar k with reference to the facts which had been proved. The Learned JUDGE— It would have been more prudent and better advice to have told him that he ought not to vote, rather than to have endeavoured to make him believe that he was right in doing so.—The defendant was then acquitted. This trial terminated the business of the asiizes. LEICESTER, JULY 29. Mr. Baron Parke opened the commission here last evening. There are 32 prisoners for trial. The business at nisi prius is ver)' light, there being only nine cases entered, five of which were disposed of in about an hour. There are nine cases on the borough calendar ; amon g st which are one of murder , one of cuttin g with intentto murder, and one of manslaughter. The remainder are larcenies. _ .A'ORFOLK ClRCUl7'—lpszoich, Jul/ 28. The Commiasion of Maize for this the last county oil the it. At the same time, he thought it. would be better if it Norfolk Citeuit, was opened to .day. Ti.e whole popu'ation of I was suspended for some time, till the Bill now before the House this beautitul town seemed to h e as sembled on 'the road from was either passed or nearly so, as the public would have a Norwich to meet the Learned Judges, and the scene was gay d;fferent opinion with regard to a Bill passed into a law and and animating in the extreme. one that was not.—( Hear, hear.) The people of Ipswich appear duly to appreciate the advan- The motion was then agreed to. tares which have accrued to it from the transfer of the Summer CANADA LOAN REPORT. Assizes from Bury, and the change is unquestionably one of On the motion - for bringing up this Report, very great benefit to the suitors and the public. Mr. HUME objected toit on the ground of th , s expense. There are between thirty and forty prisoners for trial , but The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER ,aid he their offences, with the exception of one of forgery, one of stab thought the resolution would be agreed to, because it was ab- bing, and two of burglary, are of the commonest description. ,olutely necessary for the welfare of the colony, and as a ful filment of the pledge which her Majesty had given. Mr. HUME said that, wishing to record his opinion against the grant, he would divide the House upon the resolution. Strangers were ordered to withdraw, and the House divided, when there appeared — For the resolution B9 Against it Majority for the resolution '1 he Report was then brought up. COPYRIGHT OF DESIGNS BILL. On the motion for bringing up the Report of the Copyright I Designs Bill, Mr. WILLIAMS objected to the Howe proceeding with the Bill at that late hour of the night (half.past twelve). The Bill required great alteration. Sir R. PEEL said if the general wish of the House was in favour of such a course, he would have no objection to the post ponement of the Bill till Tuesday. After a few observations from Mr. Morgan John O'Con nell, Mr. M. Philips, and Mr. Williams, the further considera tion of the Bill was postponed till Tuesday. The Lunacy Bill was re-committed, and the Report was ordered to be received this day. The Dublin Boundary Bill went through Committee, and was ordered to be reported this day. The Bankruptcy Law Amendment Bill was read a second time, Sir J. GRAHAM observing that on Monday he would satte what course the Government intended to pursue with respect to the measure. The Ordnance Services Bill was read a third time and passed. The East India Bishops Bill went through Committee.—Re port this day. The Western Australia Bill was read a third time and passed. The Lunatic Asylums (Ireland) Bill . went through Com mittee. The Report on the Slave Trade Suppression Act was re ceived. The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the House adjourned at One o'Clock. NORTHERN ClRCUlT—Lancaster, July 28. CROWN COURT.—(Before Lord DENMAN.) Peter Whittle, a steady-looking man, of about the age of thirty, was indicted for the wilful murder of his wife, Sarah Whittle, at Preston, on the 7th day of May last, by cutting bee throat with a razor. Mr. HULTON, in stating the case to the Jury, said that the prisoner was a married man, a spinner by trade, who bad lived with his wife in the house of his father and mother at Preston. He had two children ; and at the time of the offence charged in the indictment his wife was in a state of pregnancy. About one o'clock of that day the prisoner, the deceased, his mother and sister, were in the house together, when the prisoner, without any previous warning cr provocation, suddenly ent his wife's throat, and then his own. She died almost immediately, but he recovered, under surgical treatment, and was now here to take his trial. _ . Ann Whittle, the mother of the prisoner, a respectable look ing woman, cla:1 in deep mourning., deposed that she resided with her husband at Preston. The prisoner, the deceased, and their two children lived in part of the same house. Ou the rtay of the fatal occurrence the prisoner and his family had been tuning in their own parlour, and atter dinner the deceased came into witne:s's room, and at down by her, sewing. No di-puce had arisen, nor any unkind word passed, when sud denly she heard something fall like a broom on the ground. On turning round she saw the deceased as if fainting. The prisoner was then just going through the door into the kitchen. She called after him, " What's to do with Sarah ?" and at the same time saw the blood running down her neck. The deceased staggered to the door and fell. At the same time she heard her daughter shriek out, in the kitchen, "Oh, Peter, don't do that," and, running to the kitchen, witness saw the prisoner sitting in an arm chair, with his own throat cut. A surgeon was immediately sent for, but the poor woman died in a few minutes. The prisoner was taken to the hospital. Some other witnesses were examined on the part of the pro secution. Lord DENMAN in summing up the case, said it was one of great difficulty to him ; but if the Jnry thought that the pri. soner was not at the time in such a state of mind as to enable him to know what he was about, and to see the consequences of his own act, they would give their verdict upon that ground. The Jury retired for a considerable time, and returned with a verdict of Not Guilty, on the ground of insanity at the time. The prisoner was ordered to be detained during her Majesty's pleasure. M‘Gill denied that any money was offered, except by the prosecutor, who wished to reward the constable for hisvertions. Mr. JARDINE said it was too serious a case to be disposed of at once. lie should therefore remand the prisoners for a few days. s•,/, The prosecutor was also bound over in the sum of 501. to appear and give evidence at the next examination. Bail was offered for the fill ore appearance of the prisoners, but Mr. Jardine refused to release teem. GREENWICH POLICE. Yesterday Mr. Ellis, undertaker, of the Lower-road, Dept ford, applied to Mr. Grove for his advice under the following circumstances : The applicant stated that he had been engaged to conduct a funeral, and notice had been given to him that it seas the in tention of a person to whom the deceased was indebted fifteen pounds, to arrest the body on its way to the churchyard. The Chief Clerk said no arrest could take place under twenty pounds, unless it was proved that the party was about to leave the country•. He did not know whether that had refe rence to the case of a dead man. He recollected, however, a case in which a body had been arrested in Deptford some yen-it since. Mr. GROVE considered that any interference with the tune ral would be illegal, although instances had occurred, as in the case of the great Richard lirinsley Sheridan. If Mr. Ellis ap prehended any breach of the peace, he was entitled to the pro tection of the police. Mr. Ellis thanked the Magistrate, and withdrew. PO LICE INTELLIGENCE. BO W.-STREET. Yesterday two persons of very genteel appearance, one of the name of John Perkins, described as a " - gentleman," re siding at 33, Queen-street, New-cut, and the other Ednzurcl M. Gill, a tailor, of 14, St. James's-place, and 85, Edgeware road, were placed at the bar before Mr. Jardine, charged with stealing from the person of Mr. Henry Peckham, of Cleeve's place, Stockwell, a diamond pin of the value of 151., under the following circumstances : The prosecutor, who appeared very unwilling to give evi dence, said that he lost his property at an early hour in the morning, and it was subsequently fennel in the possession of one of the prisoners ; but as it had been restored, he thought the charge would hardly amount to felony, and he understoad the prisoners were on their way to his residence to restore it, he being at the time of the occurrence rather the worse for liqtier. Mr. JARnINE said he certainly would not have his property restored unless the Court was informed of all the circumstances. He would, thezefore, hear what the constable had to say. A police-constable stated that between five and six o'clock that morning, whilst on duty near Charing-cross, the prosecu tor, who appeared perfectly sober, informed him that the pri soners, who had stolen his property, hid gone towards West minster-bridge; he immediately procured a cab, and having overtaken the pi isoners near the Marsh-gate they were searched, and the pin produced was found in the possession of Perkins, who said that he had lent 101. upon it, but that fact was roan. tively denied by the prosecutor, who said that he had merely been at breakfast with the prisoners, and as they admired the pin he showed it to them, when they immediately ran away with it. Mr. JA a DINE inquired of the prosecutor whether he intended to state what he knew of the matter?—The prosecutor said he knew nothing at all about it, except that he met the prisoners in Jermyn-street, and they went together to Wright's Coffee.- house, Charing-cross, to breakfast; but he could not say how or under what circumstances the pin was taken. If the pi i soners had any demand upon him, he could have given a cheque for the amount ; but they told him he had lost some money at play, through his partner, of which circumstance he knew nothing, having been asleep at the time. Mr. JARDINE inquired whether the prisoners appeared to be acting in concert at the time. The prosecutor replied, that he was quite sure they were. There was a third person with them, and the moment he demanded his property in the presence of the officer, Perkins gave it up, say ing he was going to his ( witness's) house to leave it there, as he had in the early part of the morning obtained his address. He never saw either of the prisoners before. The constable said, that when he took the prisoners into custody, they offered him 10s. if he would not say anything about it. MORTALITY in the METROPOLIS The following are the results of " A Table of Mortality in the Metropolis, showing the Number of Deaths from all Causes Registered in the week ending July 23, 1842." The Table is issued from the OfEce of the Registrar-General:— Weekly Average 1638-9-40-1 Total. Pour Four Summers Years Epidemic, Endemic, Contagious Diseases 122 191 190 Diseases of the Brain, Nerves, and Senses 166 150 149 Diseases of the Lungs, and other Organs of Respiration x.:seases of the Ilea-t and Blood-vessels Diseases of the Stomach, Liver, and other Organs of Digestion Diseases of the Kidneys, &c............ 4 4 4 Childbed, Diseases of the Uterus, itc 8 8 10 Diseases of the Joints, Bones, and Aluseles 3 5 6 CAUSES OF DEATH. Diseases of the Skin, &c 1 1 1 Diseases of Uncertain. Seat 7O 95 104 Old Age, or Natural Decay Deaths by Violence, Privation, or Intem perance Causes not specified Deaths from all causes - --- 19 23 25 2 6 7 Average Weekly Deaths B4B 912 Population: Average Dc.stb eau- \Veetsly in merated Deaths the 1641. 15-V-41'-1. Week. Wed—Kensington, St. George r --" ----- 1 ( Hanover-square), Westmin- Four 1 Four ster, St. Martin in the Fields, Ye: re.lSummers. St. James North— St. Mary-le-bone, St. Pancras, Islington, Hackney 368,660 162 149 144 Central—Saint Giles and Saint George, Strand, Clerkenwell, Holborn, St. Luke, East Lon don, SYtst London, City of Londoni,i... ...... .. ........ ...373,806 168 174 EalMhOtditch,Whitechapel, I t ar reen, St. Georg e , t, Stepney, P0p1ar392,49'; 206 193 164 r f 1 1:r t g ' ( a s v o io u t t t h r, vc S a t r .. k o ), lr er e . , Tv, Newington, Lam niberwell, Rother reenwich .............438,060 221 203 175 Total 1,870,727 912 It is ted that under the term Metropolis are comprised the 32 dist; s herein mentioned, which include the City o f Lon don w and without the walls, the City and Libe r ti es o f Westmi ,er, the out-parishes within the Bills of Mortality--• and the arishes of St. Marylebone, St. Pancras, Kensington, Fulham, Cammersmith Chapelry), St. Luke (Chelsea), Pad dington, St. Mary (Stoke Newington), St. Leonard (Brom ley), St. Mary-le-bow, Camberwell, Greenwich, St. Nicholas and St. Paul (Deptford), end Woolwich. The population, as enumerated in 1831, wa, 1,594,890, and in June 1841, was 1,870,727. The weekly average for 1838, 1839, 1840, and 1841, was obtained by. ?tividing the deaths in the four years by 208, and the deaths ' i the four winters by 52. r h , MI'EF . 'CURE IN THE WEEKS ENDING July 16. July 23. Highest Lowest Daily ?Jean . ... £t hs General F,eg,ister Office, July 28, 1842. SHIPPING NOTI i E TO MATIVI'IIS.—DANGEROUS ROCK IN COOK'S STRAITS. Sviixriy, NEW SOUTH WALES, MARCH ‘29.—The Alier• croulie, arrived at New Zealand, reports there being a dor gerJus half-tide rock in Cook's Straits, hitherto not generall). if'at all, known ; Cape Tu riwittee bore b y compass S.L. by (gape Koemanoo S.S.W. half W., the south end of Kapati Island N. E. by E. S ome of the charts are incorrect, as the Brothers is at least 6 m iles tco far in shore ; and vessels shaping a course from Cope Stephens would come very near them, an d alight strike on the rock here mentioned, as it lies a good four m iles, in a north by east direction, from the Western Brothersi The rock when seen was about. two feet above th e sur f aced ap parently about the size iof a tun butt ; the tide was a b out two thirds, and no doubt t would be three feet under water at high tide. On Monday last, a heart-rending scene of degrada tion and distress was again seen at Arnold, viz. the drawing of a wagon laden with coals by the unemployed operatives. It ap pears that these poor fellows, to the number of thirty, have, with many others, been nut of employment for a length of time, and, in order to obtain the means of subsistence, they procured a wagon laden with coals, and harnessed to it in ropes, like co many horses, they traverse about, obtaining from the charity of the benevolent a scanty subsistence for themselves and families. —Nottinglianz Becks . A very extraordinary wasps' nest was discovered the other day in a hedge; belonging to Mr. John Forth, at Castle Donington. It measured seven fret six inches . in cir cumference, a n d two f eet i n d ept h.—N o ttingham Rev i ew. FROM THE D A:Sri:E.—Prince Metternteh will certainly go to the Rhine towards the end of August, but make a very lon stay ; he will not be accompanied lay the Princess. DISTIIILTS. ~. ~ II