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where they must encounter the competition of their con- ! statesman who was talking to me yesterday upon the s u b- . mar k e d on th e words of the lion and gallant member in tempera: ice, an d th ose w h om i n d o l ence o f t emperamen t or ject took this ohjeetion, aed illustrate'l it by an aro 'dete. the letter " v ith s uc h t ru th , " with ' a quer y after it, "by physical infirmities unfit for active exertions, are 'Placed in He :aid that the Finance Minister of France after the Re- the hon. member for Aylesbury." The hon. member now the civil serv i ce, w h ere th ey ma y o bt a i n an h onoura bl e li ve li- vo l ut i on, rece i ve d so enormous a num b er o f applications charged him with bei ng guiltyof that of which . he was hood with littl e l a b our an d no risk, where th e ir succes s d e - f or p l aces t h e e h e did no t know what to do • every man in himself accused. (Hear, bear.) but was induced to pends upon their simply avoiding any flagrant misconduct, F rance th oug ht he was entitled to a post under a free Go- Colonel FREESTUN again re and attending with moderate regularity to routine duties, and vernm en t. (A laugh.) In ono day he received no less th an sume his seat by loud cries of of " Order !" rose . in which they are secured against t h e ordinary consequences 700 applications, and he then wrote to all the candidates Sir S. NORTHCOTE admitted the inefficiency of the of old age or failing health, by an arrangement which provides desiring them to attend at his house on the same clay and civil service, but pointed out the difficulties in the way of them with th e means of supporting themselves after they have the semis hour. When the time arrived the ante-chamber, a reform, partly from the short period which heads of de become incapacit a t e d." t h e s t a i rcase , an d the hall were of emirs () filled, The Minis- partments were allo we d to remain in office, and partly Then I have the opinion of Mr. Anderson, whi c h I w ill no t ter presented himself and said, " G en tl emen , w h at have from the outcry which would be made, even in the house trouble the house with, as it is to the same effect as that you conic here for? I suppose for places?" Th e i r sil ence itself, if one men were raised over the heads of his seniors, which I have just read, but he states that when it was argued assent. " Well, said he, " I ha ve on ly one pl ace a t or if a man were dismissed for what his chief consi iered found necessary by a commissioner at th e h ea d o f a l arge my disposal; -- that is my own. If you would like to h ave it, i ncapac it y. T he great evil in the civil service was this= department to introduce improvements in th e mo d e o f apply for it." (Laughter.) But I believe nothing of that that there was no promotion by merit to the higher ap keeping the accounts, he could not rind one among his kind will happen in England if you upset the system which pointments, and the consequence was that there was no large eeteblishineut of clerks who was su ffi c i en tly conver - makes the distribution of places a political favour. Every energy or a bilit y among the clerks. H e t h en procee d ed sent with the scientific principles o f accoun t s t o carr y out member of this house would be rejoiced to be relieved from to de scr ib e th e system of reform recommended b y himself the duty, for it has become almost a duty, of making ap- and Sir Ch ar l es T rovelyan, which, he sa id , was very in his plans of i m pr o veme n t. M r . Ch a d w i c k , i n hi s ev id ence , ',. said : plications for places for his constituents. There is no harm correctly described as a system of competitio-•—it was in those applications to a certain extent. The course I pur- that, but it was still more a system of equal division of " A secretary, complaining of the disadvantages of his sue with regard to my own constituents is this—when a labour among the clerks and promotion by merit. With service, related in illustratien that out of three clerks sent man asks me for a place, I say, if I know him,that will regard to competition, he stated that C. Trevelyan and I him from the usual sources there was only one of whom any . • ' • certify that he is a respectable and competent person. If a ' himself were at first disposed to recommend the system use whatsoever could be made, and that, of the other two, Person, known to be a respectable and competent man, ape recently adopted by the Government, of having a board of ono game to take his place at the office leading a bulldog in a Plies for a small post . in the town, it is no favour to get that examiners to test the merits of nominees, but they were • string. (Laughter.) I have been assured that, under post confered on him. But the present system cannot be soon satisfied that such a board would not be able to resist another commission, out of 80 clerks supplied by the destroyedpatron while your constituents have a right to ask you urgent applications from influential persons, and thatthey age secretary, there were not more than 12 who were worth to forward their claims. A man ought to have other means would only serve to cover bad appointments. He contro their salt for the performance of service requiring only a ' of obtaininga postthan an application to his representative, verted the arguments of Mr. Romilly, who contended sound common education," It is said to be almost necessary to the existence of a Go- that a competing examination would drive gentlemen out A. retired officer writes to Mr. Chadwick : vernment that they should have places at their disposal, of the civil service. He could not conceive a greater libel ' "Many instances could be given of young men, the sons of and Mr.Romilly has stated that members of Parliament a re on the aristocracy than this, and for himself he utterly respectable parents, who were found unable to read or write, not to be kept in good humour without places. The fi rs t disbelieved it. He next complained of the inadequate and utterly ignorant of accounts. Two brothers, one almost thing, then, that we ought to do is to pledge ourselve s no t salaries given to the clerks, and the unfair division imbecile,, the other much below the average of intellect, long to ask for places. If it is disagreeable to us to fo rwar d ap . of labour. If this were put upon a better footing he was retained appointments, though never equal to higher work plications. and to the Government to receive them, let no satisfied fewer clerks would do the work, with a better than the lowest description of copying. Another young man more applications be made through us. But human nature salary for each, and a great reduction of the national ex , Was found u na bl e , on ent e ring, to number the pages of a w ill a l ways b e h uman nature, and un l ess a man h as other penditure wou ld he the re su lt. 'volume of official papers beyond 10," means than those now afforded him of obtaining admission Mr. L. GOWER was most anxious to promote merit in (Laughter.) These extracts show that all these gentlemen to the public service, the same influence will be e m pt ove d, the public service, and he gave every credit to the mem• leers of the Administrative Reform Association for seeking and the presentet . ete of things will continue to exist. There agree, in fact,. that these evie exist, though there is that object, but what he complained of was that they did ie one more question upon which I wish to say a few words, not pursue it in a practical way. He defended the course . among them some difference of opinion as to the mode in A amail pamphlet has lately been published on the reorga- , which his brother, Earl Granville, bad followed in his pub . Which the are to be remedied. I suppose that the order e ie a Hen of the civil service, written by a gentleman con- An Council - which hag been lately issued may be attributed lie life, and reminded Mr. Layard that on the only occa . to this report, and to the little notice we are beginning nected with that service. Let the house hear, then, what these gentlemen have to say.for themselves, for, although sioawheii his broth bad an appointment to b -stow—that to take ot the civil service in this house. But this order the pemphlet is anonymous, it is deserving of consideration. of L Under Foreign Secretary—he gave it to Mr. Layard 1 eimrdf. He was bound to add that the hon, gentleman it3o Council gives no remedy for the evils I have alluded to ; It shows that the evidence which I have read proves— I justified the appointmert ; there was one weakness in the merely declares that there shall be an examination ; that when a man is sent up there shall be a test as to his that the system in your public offices is as antagonistic as I hon. gentleman of which—probably from their short con beingreasonable capacity; b t there • possessed of a nection—his brother found no race—that wes an excess ' system of competitive examination proposed. I will read 4 that men pre placed in public offices whose claims rest of meekness and modesty. He t pointed out that, long be b° you what Mr. Romilly says' on the ‘ubject of an exami- upon political considerations; and that your offices are fore this movement was heard of, Lord Aberdeen's Govern nation, which I think will prove how ueeless a mere exami- overcharged with incompetent people. The money voted for the public service is larger than the public like, and we meat proposed to give up theinpatronage for a system of nation is without competition. Mr. Romilly says •: competition, and they found no support in Parliament. therefore have motions for the reduction of these sums, that I have been 12 years the member of a board, and during But the house doe , not usually cut down the salaries of the He objected to the resolution on account of the despondent 1 t.,lt period not one candidate has ever been rejected ; and tone in which it spoke of the country -which, he believed, high officers, but those of the hardworking and useful ,_lt3" one, who was wholly incapable, was with difficulty ,in men, the tendency of which is to fill the offices with use- bad no foundation; and because it suggested no remedy ',ucect to resign, after a still greater difficulty on the part of less and inefficient men. There is not one honest man, for the evils it complained of. . .ne board to say that they would reject him if he did not. . . whether he is in favour of reduction or not, who will not Mr. PEA.COCKE traced all our national disasters, from ... ,have been 12 years in a Government office, and during that say that a man who has a fair amount of duty to perform the reign of George 11, downwards, to the reign of the period no instance has occurred of any one being found un- ought to receive a fair amount of pay. (Cheers.) If you Revolution families. ...i-i serving of promotion." reduce your offices to the number of men who are compe- Mr. GLADSTONE here rose and said, that on the pre 04&.hcave great doubts as to Mr. Romilly's fitness for the tent to the duty. you may fairly increase the pay of those sent occasion he found himself in the difficulty he had re cently experienced more than once, that while they had an we of examiner, though Ido not generally object to him who fairly earn it. (Hear. heir.) The first thing is not to ~Yet I tla . nk lam justified in my doubts on this point by cut down the pay of public offices, but to reduce the num- . . orieinal motion and an amendment, he was not in the con ' the evidence which he has given. He says : her of men to that which is required for the public service. b "I am well aware that that which constitutes true gentle- Upon another point I agree with this gentleman, when he dition of assenting by his vote to either one or the other. Than-like feeling is found in every rank of life ; but it is less speaks of the superannuation fund. It is all very well to The reason why he thought the adoption of neither desir- Zieoratnon in the l ower ran ks than in the higher, and a selec- say that by means of this fund members of the civil ser- able was, that if the H ouse o f C ommons a d opte d mot i ons fen, therefore, from a selected class would seem to me pre- vice have a certainty to retire upon ; but how is that cer. on so important a subject, they sho u ld b e c l o th e d i n lan ''ulo to any choice, however extensive, founded upon pom- teinty acquired? By cutting down the pay. It is clear it petiti on. a Admitting all the evils of patronage, and all the ought to be left to an actuary to estimate what a moon guage of an unambiguous character, and calculated to pro ' adv antage of sw ee pi ng it away, as far as the Legislature is ought to receive after the payment of a certain amount, mote the public welfare. His hon. friend the m em b er f or : con e I the . erned, Ido not think that the c'vil service should bemade and after a certain number of years' service. There is an- Aylesbury commenced his motion by stating that the house instrument of the political regeneration of the country, other question treated of in the pamphlet : viewed with deep and increasing concern the state of the nn it t o be good for the service itself. Parliament ought to " The other question, that of leaving the service, is much . nation. Whatever might be the intention of the hon, to ba s ,l to cure its own diseases, without having recourse more important. The secret history of the superannuation scheme is (Moult to get at, but it is indisputable that the gentleman, he was bound to confess that he did not agree the civil service for the purpose." think this vetextraordin ar y , b ut beyond I find a pas- Government h as b een l evy i ng a t ax upon all official incomes in the language that he proposed to put into the mouth of sage in his evidence which explains it. For he states that for the pureose of granting su p erannua ti on allowances, the House of Commons. He. was not prepared to say that which tax, in its accumulation, exceeds its liabilities by the house viewed with great or increasing concern the state fo e eff ect of competition will bethat the aristocracy will many hundreds of thousands of , pounds, and which allow- of the nation. On the contrary, it appeared to him that Ar, e the lion's share of the civil service; -Li'. R • ante is always granted grudgingly—seldom until the ornilly's own words. He says : recipient he quite worn out, and generally with some in the midst of enormous difficulties, and in the face of " Not • 3,a0, together withstanding its ability, the report of Sir C. Travel- recipient reductions and uncertainties as to its amount. imflamniatory language, the people of England had shown ha_ with other papers advocating open competition, It is difficult to conceive what the Government has to do an admirable self-command and self-possession during the v e not convinced me. It still seems to me that the result with' . • ' l. one it all, except to give up those accumulations, which, present year, worthy of their name and character. Then by • n competition will be a democratical e civil service side whoever may have a right to them, certainly do not morally afore with an aristocratical Legislature." his hon. friend went on to say, in his motion, that the belong to the present possessors. In the ordinary course of planner . in which merit and efficiency had been sacrificed, vn ire I read this report I thought we had got rid of this things, if a man does not choose to store up for a rainy day, in public appointments, to party and "family influences, al dill delusion ; but according to this gentleman we are there is no act of Parliament compelline him to be pro to a blind adherence to routine, had given rise to great t' liv in'' under an aristocratical Legislature. He con- vident; and if his salary as a civil servant be not sufficient to mis cuesi thus •:___. enable him to lay by for his old age, that may be an arm- fortunes, and threatened to bring discredit upon the na tional character, and to involve the country in grave discs " Open competition must necessarily be in favour of the went for increasing his emoluments, but not for levying a tax ters. He was not quite sure that he correctly understood W e re numerous class. The natural abilities of that more of 5 per cent. upon what he now receives, where 2i would do; the terms family influences, but he must interpret the mo knen'erons class—'. e ., o f the lower or less rich class—are not nor, indeed, of meddling with the disposal of his private tion of the hon. member for Aylesbury, not by his speech t o ' e rior to those of the higher or richer class. Inducements means at all." to-night, but by other speeches addressed to other suds t, cultivate those abilities for a special and important ob- He describes in a graphic way how the unfortunate man J tencem, and in reference to the known sentiments of the as com paratively , attainable by such means, will not be wanting. The tries to get this retiring allowance : sedation of which he was understood to be the principal 4 1 ,,Paratively moderate prizes of the civil service rise iu orean. He (Mr. Gladstone) did not go beyond the fact in "He has to shift and dodge on, broken-spirited, nervous, a valu e P you descend in the scale of society. 2001. or 3001. a and dyspeptic. By night he runs the gauntlet of 'Parr's stating that he observed in the proceedings of that essoci - "4! is a much larger fortune to the son of a tradesman Life," Norton's Camomile,' `Cockle's Antibilious,' and other c l an a tendency to fasten on the aristocracy, as a peculiar .a iarmer than it is to the son of a nobleman or squire; miraculous memlicaments ;by d ay h e i s more occu pi e d with class, some peculiar responsibility for the defects and and e Do . , therefore, believe that the great majority of the ap his diet than his duty • his office gets disorganised, his juniors weakness of the public service He was not prepared to ke n ', tments will fall to the lot of those who are in the lower g and become lose temper,thei h r tto feel'the injustice of may W n or t kin o g with 'th manome join in a feeling of that kind. If the House of Commons '`al position. (Laughter.) The more the civil service is re- not stay, and was more aristocraic in sentiment and in feeling than it whooug by from the lower classes, the less it will be sought after while he either dies y in harness full full ten years beforeto b e, that was not owing to any privilege possessed mutinous,ought d ?' the higher until at last the aristocracy will b© altogether e n e ur rt t i r ea e ie o s r u co n n t d il e h sc e ende n t s o u a n s w ho o i r .n thy an t d rie m k u s tTlandter allowance by the aristocracy or to any particular law or regulation ; ktssociated from the permanent civil service of the country." but it was owing to the strong feeling in favour of the anis from half incredulous 'mi lords.' " o f this means anything it seems this—that if you give the tocramy which pervaded all ranks and classes of the talentcone eFt'utinents to that class who p t o e s s s t essthe greatest amount object in working for The pamphlet is full of cases like this, and is clearly an ex- munitv; but, besides, it was still more owing to the fact th e ~,.and who ha u ve m t u h s e t g i r n e t a roduce competitive exami- ponent of the feelings of the men themselves, who would that the aristocracy was recruited from the best of the be affected by the changes proposed. I have read the evi- people, and its history was written in the most glorious Ration_ service, you donee of Mr. Anderson, who shows that our public offices pages of the country, ascribing to it everything that made aristocracy,hear)— the effect of t which will be to exclude the say that Mr. Mill, a gentle eta, I am happyare overcharged with servants, and I will read another pas- them rejoice in thename of England. The evil nepotism e " of great experience, a profound philosopher as well as sage from his evidence. Mr. Anderson says : __ . _ Political economist, has upset the absirdities of Mr. . 01 .11 illy. Mr. Mill says : `` If the sons of gentlemen cannot be expected to have as , ability and instruction as the sons of low people it make a strong case for ttris social changes of a more bl l iye character. (Hear, hear.) If the sons of gentle would not, even under the stimulus of competition, main- Ivi t i ttheinselves on an equality of intellect and attainments youths of a lower rank, how much below the mark must 'v t ,„Qe with their present monopoly, and to how much greater strit than the friends of the measure alleg e must the effi . - 14 Q04, Q lthe public service be at present sacrificed to their fib -Pe t;encvmore ; if, with advantages and oppco tu h 8 " • South of the higher classes have -° vastly superior, the 'ot aa '!lour enough, u or energy enough, or p blic spirit enough, - „e themselves as well qualified as others for the station tfp a , they desire to maintain, t they areuot fit for that sta bett such cannot too soon step out pof it, and give place to Of t ,er people I believe not this unuopion e l ,: t eni. that they will fairly earn thei rf able full share of kind of distinction when they are no longer able to ob (",11 it unearned." leh o ers.) I most entirely agree with those opinions. Let r > " 6 cpu I service be open to all classes. (Hear, hear.) regard to the examinations, I have a return, which ti somewhat amuse the house, of the sy . stem of examina 1U adopted, under the orderin Council, in : each depart lit, part of which I will read. In the Treasury— a • The candidates are examined in the common rules of tP o th roetic, such as the rule of three, vulgar and decimal frac -444,, interest, and discount ; and they are required . to . make ,austract of some official documents, to test their intelli te-eti and to show that they are able to write and compose o ° 4 l Tectly. t.. 4 6 , month is allowed for preparation on this examination. ""e Customs, RN ( ' Persons nominated to clerkships, upon presenting them to ; e l to take up their appointments, ai t e at ro o o n i c .l e y-g re ua qu i le d fA ce ti r t o e from dictatiol in the presence of arith h, r clerk, and are examined in . principal p‘ rules of tioe s ';,' t io, and the first four rules of decimal and vulgar frac- Th e caLtliilat..s are here "placed on probation" for three . 4 t h '•ln the Excise (Inland Revenue) office — ° Person is fully admitted as a clerk until he has been 'vriiThed and his proficiency has been escort ined in reading, e 4th, gl a , vulgar fr actions, decimals, bookkeeping by double 44 `41;-" wl .' i ting from dictation, correspondence, geography, x ri th e history of the British empire." tbie P est -office the examination is very vague—penman stel)l °llll ' , vraphy and arithmetic. In the Admiralty the] e tak e lh arks for the ' different subjects in which examination . B „P!'ce, including writing from dictation, precis w"t_ 're'alithinetic, English history, geography, Latin, and L e t 106'. the total number being 300. Any one who can s'uf et . 1, qualified and, therefore, if a person cau . obtain 4 ear, w 'it , ng from ' dictation, and 50 for precis writing, he Pai ti ", e .Q the other tests. (tear, hear.) There is no exa 'it.tsinn at the India Board, but appointments are probe .4l fur one e n ar There are also no examinations at I.lae-nne-officey the " Foreign-office, and the Colonial-office. objets of examination in the Payma.ster.General's are-- tat a lac tice, rul e o f th ree —di rec t , inverse and double ; vul e2ehaticl (loolinal fractions ; interest, purchase of stock, and ; writing from dictation; a precis or abstract of 114 QuAcial documents." °l4:a'nination takes place in the Office of Works, or the ee (5 74 1 ,,, jae ci f_ •YtToods. The examination in . the Au( th l ffi tith 5 h andwriting, English composition, and e - rules ka tt , it mit.etic op to Decimal Fractious. The subjects of "1 ~"'"°11 in the Registrar-General's-office are - v ii '' ll , .-,i L i oi ` V . 3 , l i t tling fFom dict t ation ; 2, arithmetic ; 3, geography ; - O h at er's i w e eas l pally). r tlb a meant by occasionally" Ido not know. In the btioaelie-office there o a ‘' re no less than 13 heads of exam.- 1 ,,,1ne of which are very amusing— ct,`:;llls.ro`Dhee,Qandidate is expected . to be able to read aloud k o 'eetly f "'Vl:Lasts and discretiou—(a laugh); '2, to write ti rel from dictation • 3, to be convers with . the corn- Q bs • of ar ithmetic:including Vulgar and Decimal Frac tlitryV, to be acquainted with bookkeeping by double (41-114i4liaPP°Intedtoii.o6ffi e of accounts ; 5, to be ac ;,Zizklit-egi,Lithg,eeograp iy „ office be able to write a letter N e abat era) [Lord PALma ract of correspondencßes.T"(=-‘ Go on"], and to bi 17 ritte Hear hear.) 7, To tt i ,+ e i „ or viva voce opinion on an ordinary ' subject I u? Proposed to him for the purpose of testing his tl elligence." 4 4, 4 in Lt.trtUble the house with the other tests, but this " ( the 1, 1r 20 seems to me, upon the whole, a very fair one. Th e 4r ce- eatest importance will be attached to superiority tly 4.'4 grammar, Entdish composition, and writiwr cor ttakliZla dictation, and in arithmetic to the extent of a I, :.N,4 4 r,,, c ittailatanc e with the Rule of Turee, Practice, L.l - vulgar and Decimal Fractions; a candidate will Ivish`t,to indicate any book or subject upon which he 4'ol the ' 0 be sp ec i a l ly exam i ne d . " ktteaP ue `eons. Bo ar d an d th e Board of Trad e th ere are latons. T he examinat i on i n t he E xc h equer ap rir if operly carried outd has been ; 4 1 jjeebi sa tisfactory pr ' by LLordMonteagle., an In the Ne. e office— etaip:tllidte nominated to a clerkship is subject to an t1 e ., 1°4 to show - that he can write with ease and fad 110et in r legible hand ; that be can copy in a fair and 11 131,4ta . 4 . t!Qe- did not affect the aristocratic classes more th an anyother rank. These circumstances operated with him as an objection to the motion in the abstract. He was not willing to join in a vote which could have no other effect than deluding the country, nor was he prepared to point out the class of the aristocracy as being chargeable with peculiar responsibility for defects in the public service. The hon. member for Aylesbury, with great fairness, said that he considered the sYstma acted on by successive Governments was prejudicial to the satisfactory management of public affairs. Now he (Mr. Gladstone) wculd not enter into the inquiry whether it was so or not. But if it were so, then he ventured to state that the party or power responsible for that evil was the House of Commons. If one thing more than another was in the control of the house, it was who should and who should not he Ministers of the Crown, and if it were true that Cabinets were formed from the restricted circle of families of the aristocratic elass without availing our selves of the immense materials that the nation offered, it was the House of Commons that ought to be held mainly if not entirely responsible for the evil, and it did not be come the House of Commons to lament Pharisaically for such a state of things in the face of the country, in the form of the hon. member's motion, but it became them to proceed with an address to the foot of the throne, repre senting to her Majesty, that they must withhold their confidence from those to whom she had entrusted her exe cutive councils, until they adopted measures more in ac cordance with the public interest. (Hear, hear.) He objected in the most unqualified terms to the practice adopted on some recent occasions of embodying resolutions of the House of Commons in general, abstract, and am biguous language. It was of importance that the people should look on these resolutions with respect and reverence; but if that respect and reverence were to be expected, the resolutions should partake of a strictly practical character. (Hear.) The amendment of the hon. baronet, the member for Hertfordshire, began by recommending some practical meager°. He recommended to the earliest attention of her Majesty's Ministers the necessity of a careful revision of our various official establishments. (Hear, hear.) Well, if they were to enter a boat of that kind, it was a singular course, and not very convenient to adopt that lanenage, and to make that recommendation, without any notice of the fact that, for the last four or five years, there had been no progress, and recently there was completed a searching and formal investigation of the public establish ments. Two blue hooks of respectable dimensions, con taining the results of that investigation and revision, were oreeente Ito Parliament. He should like to know, if that department of statistics were open to him, how many members had found time to make themselves masters of their contents. The careful revision which the hoe. ba ronet, the member for Hertfordshire, recommended to her Vfajestv's Minist, rs, was with a view to simplify and faci litate the transaction of public business,- and by judicious tests of merit, as well as by removing obstructions to its fair promotion and legitimate rewards, to secure to the service of the State the , argest avail ble proportion of the energy and i itelligence for which the people of this country were distinguished. He hoped he should not be thought hypercritical if he stated that the allusion to the energy and intelligence of the people of England would find a more suitable place in the eloquent speeches of the hon. baronet, than in the vote which he proposed to put into the mouth of the House of Commons. His objection to the hon. baronet's amendment was its vagueness and un meaning character. What were the judicious tests they should apply ? Was he prepared to propose a distinct and specific plan ? They all concurred that the foundation of some system for the promotion of the public service was absolutely necessary. Bat to go further, and mike a high sounding declaration to that effect, before they had a defi nite idea of its meaning—before they were prepared to give effect to any substantial plr n, was not only an act of folly, but as between the members of that house and their constituents, an act of dishonesty. They had no right to make professions in the face of the country, until they were prepared to reduce them to practice. The amend ment intended to be proposed by his hon. friend the mem ber for Cork was not open to the criticism which he (Mr. Gladstone) hail applied to the original motion, and to the amendment of the hon. baronet the member for Hert fordshire. That amendment PM founded on principle. It prayed her Majesty to modify the Order in Council. recently instituted. for the examination of candidatesfor the public service. It was, in no respect, necessary to modify the Order in Council to give effect to that motion, for while the order did nothing to interfere with the right of nomi nation, it left it onen to the members of the Government, in whose hands the patronage was vested, to institute a particular system of examination. With respect to the subject of administrative reform, he viewed the movement with no regret, but with interest. It was not until he heard the speech of the hon. member for Aylesbury that he cenfessed he was able to form a judgment whether the promoters had marked oat for themselves a clear view of the remedies they meant to employ. The question of ad ministrative reform —it was a subject which he always re joiced at when he found the public mind turned towards it and uo person would be more pleased than himself, if the hon. member for Aylesbury would turn into practical effect, the feeling which haul taken hold of the country ; for he was convinced that if they only gave it practical di rection, that great good would result from the movementof the association. (Hear, hear.) As regards the oivil de partments of the public servile, hethought that the system of competitive, free and open examination could be carried out. Lord Panmure's intention to throw open to competi tion a number of military appointments, especially in the Engineers and Artillery, was a bold measure on the partof " Every person who has had experience in conducting a large office will admit that if all were really efficient not only would the business he better and more expeditiously done, but it would be probably executed by two-thirds of the num ber of clerks now employed." (Cheers.) I will not trouble the house with further re marks on the civil service, but I might say something on the manner in which the Governments of this country are organised. This subject comes within the scope of my argu ment, far I have the admission of a noble lord in the other house (Lord Granville), who said that, although he had many connexions in the present Administration, yet he 'had three cousins in the Administration of the Earl • f Derby. This, then, is no party question, and. if this is admitted, the question is placed upon the basis that I wish. Govern ment, then, in this country, is more or le , s an affair of family relationship and connexion. Ido say that this is one of the most grievous causes of,public complaint, and that it is working more than any other upon the country at large. (Hear, hear.) Now, sir, I will go to third pro position of my resolution that the state of things of which I complain has given rise to great misfortunes, and threatens to bring discredit upon the nation, and involve the country in grave dii'seters. No one now will question the fact that our public establishments are not what they should be, and no one will question the fact that very great changes are necessary. I doubt, indeed, whether any reasonable man will question the truth of the asser tion, that the misfortunes that have happened are owing to this state of things. I have found a curious speech, which I have extracted from the newspapers. The house will remember that the noble lord at the head of the Go vernment Raid there were no complaints made of the de partments which were filled by members of the aristocracy, but that where complaints were made they were directed at departments like the medical department and the com missariat, which were not filled by members of the aris tocracy. That was not a wise speech, certainly, and the senior surgeon of the hospital at Smyrna, in a speech printed in the public papers, appears to have called his brother doctors about him and made the following speech : " It may be very well for Lord Palmerston to get up in the House of Commons and say that the departments officered by the aristocracy have not failed in the recent trial, but that the medical department and commissariat have failed because their officers are taken from the middle classes. We can re tort, and prove the truth of what we say, that, had we been left to ourselves, unchecked by the incapacity of those who have risen rather by family influence than he- merit, it would not have been under the pressure of a great war that reforms —long since effected in our civil hospitals;long since imitated in some degree• by our allies—would have been carried out by our military medical brethren." Sir, I admire the courage of a public servant who can get up and say this publicly and allow it to be circulated. (Cheers.) But lam told that a better state of things is approaching, that there have beensuccesses, and that there is no reason to fear any great disasters. No one is more willing than I am to acknowledge the importance of the successes we have recently obtained. But are thos, sue ceases so extraordinary that we are to be surprised at them? I have always believed that successes would be the inevi table result if the two services, the army and the navy, had fair play, and if we sent the right man to fill the right place. But do the successes we have recently ebta'ned warrant us in concluding that we are at the end of this war ? It is too much the habit of this country to express at one time a despondency which is not justified by events, and at other times a state of exhilaration which is not more justified by any, successes that we have obtained. The latter is the case at present. We have had some sue ceases, but does that warrant the belief that the war a ill thereby be brought to a speedy and honourable conclu• Rion ? Sir, I very much doubt it. 1 warn the Govern ment that although it may be all verywell to divert atten tion from the question at issue by means of these successes, ,yet that their influence will not last long enough to remove that distrust which more and more prevails, and which will prevail. I warn the Government not to depend upon these successes to remove the prevalent distrust, but upon the reform of our public establishments. Reform them, and we shall have some chance of real success. The late Duke of Wellington came to the command of the army in the Peninsular under a state of things not very different from that which prevails at present. When he was sent to Spain he 11,:d a commissariat to form and an army to organ ise, but, by his abilities, talents, and energies, he did what was re•luired. He not only reorganised his army, but he fed the inhabitants of Portugal ; he opened a communication with America, and obtained supplies from the remotest parts of the world. Hari we !inch a man now we should obtain 'the same successes. But, as it is, we ought not to flatter ourselves that we are at theend of the war. I did not expect that we should obtain peace on the tarms proposed, because we had not obtained the necessary successes. But su ppose further successes are acquired—snyzose Sebasto pol taken—shall we be essentially in a beta .t.- position for concluding a peace? On the contrary, I fear our difficul ties will be increased, and I warn the country not to be lieve that our recent successes important and honourable as they are, e ntitle us to believe that they will bring us to a spe edy and satis fac t or y p eace. I believe t he war will b e a long war, and that it will only be determined by such a reform of the whole of our system. military and naval, as will lead us to send those men to the seat of war who are best A do fitted to , thee arry war o willnthe be wa e r it w h i e t r h l? d n u g e e a r n thn d a proz .e proper expect,effct If or we shall incur such disasters as wid compel us to make a peace w hi c h w ill not be honourable and satisfactory to V...4t. , -er from manuscript or print, manuscript Is ' ,21ccted and set before him for that purpose ; ..that kil b a l°4 r e t ," 2 l-il ete master of arithmetic up to and including 1 ' of,. actions; that he has a fair knowledge of history , ti.c.0,,, 11,-.4,4 'PhY." 1 4 .4 , 4 ,"4"ilei?neeive how a mr who . is unable to copy from ,Ilid' lt le ( l,, ll4 vo much proficiency in any other Lranch of 4 5 -e l t r ,e: e ' (A laugh.) There are a few ot t he t r ro offices al uble the tl b t i l:e. ,;', tbe return with which I will . no , ki -le :, eb. are the examinations now in existence, but these ot- Zl4 l 4ti: i ll have a fairer means of appointment Le t 1vat,4.8 have no test of qaalification. (Hear.) . Iv 4 4 r ' a Mere examination to enable a man, after W he e b ( a lo s ab 4 "I)°in t 1 to the gates of a ti , , a ti e' , enter one IV :it "antlitlatiOn which will test the ftne t r e o office e k : or iel "? That of others who may apply beor la 4b, 4 'ir.: x ti l o ri e a 8 to whether there ought . tocern petinc , r ki, s ' l nept, 1 1 S i 8 one of considerable diffi t cu n it • but the t, eti o In their favour aro, I th . plc, stronger than the %, oh open them. It is said that if the pu u) service is from It ,part to all you will be assailed by claimants harm ' 'S I °f the country. I do not think much _ e 'lone if that were the me, An eminent French 1 wisdomine t h i e n Government i e that et ping member momentc concluded o l u f d n ead ewn''olergrtgeliyu, country. t a . n t e L I e u n s e e i , n t f h a a s t e na tional emergen g e r y e . at (C Pe h a e P e i r e s. l ) n riven notice. by movi ng th e resolutions o f w hi c h he had , t i ! h ie e p h r o e e ss . i m n Colonel FREESTIIN said, with respect to the statement in the public the meetin g o f th e Administrat i ve R e f or m Association on Papers as to his not having b een p resent at W e d nesday , be was surprised that he hon. member for Aylesbury should have presumed—should have dared to question his veracity. [Lord Goderich rose, as several hon. members called the gallant gentleman to order, appa rently for the same purpo se , but the noble lord di d not persevere.] He ask e d th e hon. member if either the mem bers for Plymouth, Mahlon, Glocester, Brecon, or Leeds were present at that meeting? He repeated the statement in his letter that they were not. He rose merely with that object, and he was perfectly content to leave gentlemen of greater ability to deal with the general subject now before the house. Mr. LAYARD said he wax extremely surprised to hear what had fallen from the h on . ai , d gallantember. He did not say those gentlemen were present—he merely re- should be recollected, that the Government of Lord Aber deen did--without at all pledging itself to the particular opinions contained in that report—advise her Majesty to announce to Parliament that it was their intention to pro pose a great change with respect to admissiOn into the civil service ; and though he had never had an' opportunity of explaining, on the part of the Government, the particulars of that measure to the house, yet it was understood that they did involve the entire surrender of patronage in first appointments in the civil service. And here he felt it his bounden duty to say one word at least on behalf of the aristocracy. It was too much the practice to mis up weak ness and corruption in our administrative system with the aristocracy. He did not believe there was ever a Cabinet more aristocratically constituted than that of Lord Aber deen. Of fifteen noble lords and right hon. gentlemen who composed it, he was the only one who could not fairly be said to belong to the aristocracy. For that reason he could speak with more freedom on that subject, and say that the Cabinet, so aristocratically formed, did of itself conceive and intend to submit to Parliament, a plan for the total surrender of its patronage. He was bound to make one further declaration, that besides being the only individual of the Cabinet that did not belong to the aristocracy, he was also the only one who had no.possible merit in the proposal ' • for th e very p l a i n reason, t h a t h o h ad no pa tronage to surrender. (Hear, hear, and a laugh.) He would not venture to reason on the question of what re ception that house would have given to a proposal of that kind, if it had been fully explained and debated there, But he thought their own consciences would bear them witness that it would not have been quite so easy to induce the House of Commons to accede to it. That, then, went a long way to acquit them. He did not wish to entrap the house into an admission that tbe de cision of Lord Aberdeen's Government was a wise one. They could not wholly eradicate - the principle of patrenave, but they could do a great deal towards it. In his opi nion the country was in danger of being led astray by a number of feeble propositions of amelioration, which could lead to no useful result. They proposed ono thing and another, but in general each was more feeble than the other. (Hear.) They said, for instance, " Why don't you examine candi dates for the civil service ? Examine them as strictly, as rigidly as possibl e , b u t don ' t throw over b oard altogether the right of patronage." Well, they _could not examine them severely, except under a competition. The Board of Inland Revenue was an example, in which the existing system might b e seen i n action under its best form. It was an example of the advantage of letting the patronage come from the outside, and the rejection from within. On such a principle the evil was greatly reduced, and in the Board of Inland Revenue they had the best man of the public service of this or of any other country— the growth of this or of any other system—and men whom he would defy the whole range of occupations in the country to ex cel or equal. But the question was with regard to cases where the chiefs of departments nominated to appoint ments under them. It was all very well to talk of rigid examinations in such cases, but no board of examiners dare assume the responsibility of rigidly examining such nominees. It had been doubted whether the order in Council had reference to examinations for the civil service. Now he considered that he hiLoaelf was, to a great extent, reponsible for that order in Council, and he considered the defence of it to rest on these particulars. It made the ex amination universal and public, though no doubt it had been the meantof working hardships in cases where bona fide ex aminations came by surprise. There was another particular connected withtheorderin council whichwas worthyof notice an,l it was this-sitopened thedoor to every other improvemeut There was nothing in it tending to stereotyye the presentsys tem of examination, but ratherto relax it, if the objects wero seen to befully obtained. He confessed he must entirelygive in his adhesion to the hon.memberforAylesburywhen hesaid, " Make open admissions to the cjvil service ;" for he felt all other remedies would be imperfect and illusory. It was asked by one, " Why not dismiss all inefficient men ?" On the other hand, the noble lord the member for Lynn gave as his opinion thet all public servants should have the power of appeal. Now, if they wanted to give a last finishing stroke to the public service it was th at. (Hear.) If they wished to paralyse and destroy that service, they had only to establish the idea of a vested right in public appointments, and adopt the plan of giving an appeal to those who wore threatened with dismissal. (Hear.) Then they heard other suggestions mentioned. They heard of " probation," of " division into chases," and of "promo tion from division to division." , Those, he was able to say, were merely remedies on the surface, and such little ped dling measures would not do. In a Secretary of State's office they might see the • most beautiful arrangement of that kind, where men rose by 51. and 101. a year, with as great a precision as if it were done in the scales of a gold smith. But that was not the true point. It was not the question of admission that ought to occupy them, but that of how to procure promotion by merit. Did promotion take place by merit now? In 20, or 50, or 100 cases, per haps there was one such. It was certainly a very rare case, and when it did occur it was from one or two causes— either that the merit of the individual was so obvious that it could not be ignored, or else that the chief of the depart ment had more resolution or energy than usual, and set his face, like a flint wall, against all difficulties in the way of bringing it into full working order. Hence, too, they had seen some examples of conspicuoes ability in the public departments. The constitution of officers in -the civil ser vice was not favourable to promotion by seniority. Pro motion by seniority was looked upon as a vehicle for job bery, and, therefore, there was slow tone pervading the civil service, though they could bout of excellent and ad mirable men. But, on the other hand, the duty performed was small, and the inefficient servants were overpaid, while the useful ones were under-paid, and hence the re sult was unsatisfactory, and discontent prevailed every where. Then how was the system to be remedied ? It seemed to him that a great pert of the fault lay in the admission originally, to persons being admitted, not by merit, but by favour. Could thr not - eke Bey . make persons un derstaud, though admitted by favour, that theycSul,i only rise by merit? If they entered by merit, it would be natural for them to expect that they could rise only by merit, but coining in from any cause distinct from merit, they did not understand being put aside out of their suc cession to higher offies on the ground cf other man being better qualified. Lay open the civil service to all the world that could fulfil their conditions. Let them have a suffi cient examination, and then, at any rate, whatever other evils they incurred, they gave it clearly to ho understood that those who aims in did not get iu or hold their offices except by merit. (Hear, hear.) In doing that they would ch.tnge their whole system—(hear, hear)—and he was sure they would produce an atmosphere and a tone quite un known in the civil service, by the feeling which all would hava that it was by merit alone they could be promoted. The hon. gentleman the member for Dudley had referred to the grievance of the superannuation, and he (Mr. Glad stone) thought there was something anomalous in calling that superannuation which was contributed to at too high a rate for such a purpose. (Hear.) But he understood that it was imposed in lieu of a reduction of salary, and had its origin in the thee of Lord Grey. This he had learned from his right hon. friend the member for Carlisle. In 1831 there was a disposition to reduce and cut down every public servant. In 1350 that disposition became so strong that the hon. member for Oxfordshire almost car ried a resolution in that house by which it would have been determined to cut off 10 per cent. from all salaries under the civil service of thearmy. That motion had been forgotten completely, and they had since heard of nothing but the miserable inadequacy of salaries in the public ser vice. He confessed he could not subscribe to that doc trine. Their good servants were certainly underpaid, and their bad ones overpaid, but the public in the aggregate paid the highest salaries. He requested the house would think this was a question which demanded great conside ration. The feeling which pervaded out of doors with re spect to our administrative system was such as the hon. gentleman below him had described; but he was equ .11y sure that it was easy t ) prove that there would be a great deal of difficulty in attaining even to a lower degree of perfec tion than that which was aimed at. He doubted whether the system of patronage contributed, in the least, to the strength of the Executive Government. On the contrary, be thought it was their weakness. He found proofs of that in the number of unsettled legislative questions that went on from year to year, produced and reproduced, in the form of bills abandoned, one after another, and never arriving at a settlement. He maintained that the Ex em tive Government—not this or any other parti c ul ar Govern g ; but he could not thi n k it could be strengthened by meat—required strengthenin g Patronage ; but even if it could, he would regret the maintenance of such a system, for it was an unmixed evil. He granted they could not alto gether get rid of patronage; for though a system of exa mination, in proof of merit, might be very well adopted, for young men of 18 or 20, first entering the subordinate offices of Government, it was not adapted for men of a later period of life to be chosen for the higher branches of administration. There must be a degree of responsibility in the choice of persons for the higher offices of the public service. As regarded first admissions, there was not, and could not be, any responsibility whatever. Nobody knew or cared who were the men who found their way into the lower offices of the Customs, or the Inland Revenue, or the ‘)st-office, or the Secret ar i es o f S ate's offices, or the Treasury, or ary of the administrative offices about Lon don. Unless in cases of the greatest flagrancy, you might ,gyp soh t the most indifferent men—and in a gm it many cases the most iuoifferent men were appointed. To g't rid of such a system would be a relief, and a blessing to the country. blt would be better economy to get good men, and give them better pay, than to have worse men at a lower rate. But beyond that it would do much for the general education of the country. They had three education bills now before the house, which showed the difficulties of the subject ; but he thought they could not devise any scheme so - effeci ive as throwing open the civil service of the country. (Hear, hear.) The reform of the present system, therefore, would do much for economy, it would do much for education, it would do much for the efficiency of the public service, and, permit him to say, it would also do much for the public virtue of the country. They, in that house, felt that the position of members themselves towards their constittie e nrtesewn felt it as not solittle altogether ttie as he satisfactory. did, because constituency Perhaps no was not in a person condition to become applicants forGavernment situations ; a serious change aas d es i ra bl e, if only for but he spoke of what was a generally admitt e d f act, and t i h h e n't sake of being s t o h'at class who might be said to subsist on hope deferred. There could be no more unsatisfactory state of society than that which contained a class of expectants. Whenever an object was to be obtained there were ten or twenty people pulling all the strings whereby they thought they could get possession of it. That multitude of candi dates did not increase the number of offices to be obtained, but the vague idea that, these offices were obtainable through interest led to an indehnite number of applicants, and thus kept a large class of persons in a state fatal to their true interests, and destructive of the manliness of d listened t o w h a t their character. (Hear.) He thereforoohrotptehdetmheotihoonuosef would give their hest attention to the con s id eration of this had sd e h on, uon fallen, frandfier4nlindalthough we It e nhu c s o rt u e g l sdaarynd eci ohtee especially pally t o th e diplo ha upp 'natio and consular services—he would not pronounce any opinion with regard to military appointments, of which he knew little—with the most sincere satisfaction ; and ho wished . . . a change of the the Secretary for War. 7 -;one for which he was entitle l to nature he had indicated, and which he believed would heartily • herl they might bring about much credit, not only because it involved a sacrifice of pa- far a great and lasting benefit on the country. (Hear.) con tronage, but because it showed there was every disposition to look into the conduct of the public service with a v i ew ment :—" Th a t thi s h ouse recomme n d s t o t h e earliest atten- Sir E. B. LYTTON rose to move th e following amend e n i t V s h w e o t i l i l l e a r b t e h s e ti cexperiment a t e s r se c ure e g ard e i c t i s m g ii l e i a t t a e r r y e a ffi p z p i o e i n n c t y m . tion of her Majesty's Ministers the necessity of a careful r a question w hi c h h e cou ld n ot solve. The revisio n o f th ose revision of o ur var i ous official establi s h ments, With a view establishment s t oo k pl ace f ro m a pure love of justi ce , w ith- ness, and, by instit u ting judicious test s o f merit, as well as to simplify an d f ac ilit a t e the tr ansac ti on , :f public busi out eulogy, an d w ith ou t any p ressure f rom th e H ouse o f Commons. (near s hear.) had held made the holder of it lf he spoke of them it was by removing obstructions to its fair prom o ti on and lemiti because the o ffi ce mate rew ar d s , t o secure t o the serv i ce of the State themore responsibl e for a d m i n i s t r ti ve re f orm , an d fi n di ng largest ava il a bl e propor ti on o f th e energy and intelligence that it bad been regularly in force under his predecessor for which the people of this country are distinguished." it was easy t o ma k e prov i s i on f or th e i r b e i ng The hon. b arone t , w h o was ver y i n di s ti nctly heard at the h carried on. Wh en th ey h a d atta i ne d th e i r com - c o mmencement of his speech, was under s t oo d to say that e did not complain o f the tone of the deb a t e i n that house pletion, when the ho n . gen tl eman, t h e mem b er f or Dud ut a very differ en t s t a t e o f feeling exi s t e d out of doors, for , ley, anti the other gentl eman engaged w i th him i n that we- b ful labour, hail presented something like a view of the de- there had been no question in their time so simple in itself tails of various offices—he (Mr. Gladstone) did, on the part which had been encumbered by so dangerous an agitation of the Government of Lord Ab er d een, request Si r Ch ar l es out of do ors as t h e motion w hi c h was now submitted for the Trevelyan and certain gentle men w h o had a compre h ens i ve the ir aft a considereration. (Hear.) It might pe r h aps b e expected 40 ' ex perience of the subject, t o d raw up a deta i le d report, years peace the departments c onnected with war would be f oun d i n a f au lt y s t a t e — t h ere giving a general view of the civil serv i ce . A n d now, it might have been much that was faulty in their working, and it might r tic spirit and the intellectual character of the house im be desirabl e to reconstruct their machinery on a new prin- pressed upon him ; and he must add, after an experience eiple. All th a t w a s natural enough. But that such matters of twenty years, he could not recollect a time when the of detail should be perverted at a great public meeting, and I h ou e e was more worthy of the respect and the confidence mad e th e su bj ec t of an infl a mmat or y att ac k upon a particu- I of the people, whether for the abilities which the mem lar class, was to his mind a very great misfortune. (Hear.) I bees had displayed, or, as he believed, the personal incor- A misfortun e s o gre a t th a t he thought the house would, in 1 ruptibility of those of whom it consisted, or their the first instanc e , d o w e ll to try and sae what were the zee]. for the weal of the kingdom at large. He had shaped causes which gav e t o a question so harmless in itself so sini- his amendment so as to be free from all party spirit, titer and so sin gu l ar a t en d enc y. Now, on this question it in the hope that every member, whatever might be his was very import an t t o obs er v e the dates when the cry for arty or politics, might tecord a vote which he could yin administrative r e f orm h a d assume d th e shap e which it now dicete to his constituents, and justify to his conscience. He appeared in, an d w h en it fi rs t b urs t u p on them. That date hoped that the amendment which he had proposed would I was shortly aft er th e access i on o f th e noble lord the member ' be found such as to conciliate the approbation of members for Tiverton to the head of the Administration. Parliament on both sides of the house. (Hear, hear.) had laid greatfauit, w h e th er r i g hti yor w ro ngly, on the mem- LABOUCHERE wh should not have risen had not 1 bers of the l a t e G overnment. The belief in their errors was been for observations which h e understood had fallen it from strengthened very m uc h b y th e course p ursue d by the noble Sir S. Northcote with respect to the • appointment of Mr. lord the member f or th e Cit y of L on d on, w h o a ppli e d first Fonblanqu e to the statistical department of the Board of to Lord Aberdeen, and then to that house, to have one of Trade. He (Mr. Labouchere) desired to take upon himself his then colleagues, the Duke of 'Newcastle, removed, and the responsibility of that appoi n t ment, the noble lord now at the head of the Government placed was to be justified most completely considering the high which he thought at the head of the War Department. The people took up character of Mr. Fonblanque, and his remarkable statisti this view, and the Duke of Newcastle was ejected—the cal acquirements. He regretted that the hon. member for noble viscount at the head of the Gov ernmen t being re- Dudley should have thought it expedient to condemn the garded as a trustee, so to speak, for the proper carrying on appointment during his (Mr. Labouchere's) absence from of the war, and for energy, reform, and vigour in all the the house, and without giving him the slightest notion of public departments, more especially in that relating to nai- his intention. litary affairs. Up to this time the Administrative Reform Mr. S. NORTFICOTE remarked, in explanation, that h e Association bad n ever b een h eard of. Yet, but two weeks was confident his ri g ht h on . f r i en d had made his o after the accessi on o f th e no b le viscount to power, the tions simply because he did not hear the speech aboubservet country rang with th e cry . Wh y? He would tell them, which he complained. He (Sir Stafford) had made no re- Because the noble lord had disappointed the expectations mark whatever against the appointment of which he had r a i se d—b ecause h e wanted decision and fore- blauque, beyond the observation that it was an illustration sight, qualities so essential in him who had the direction of individuals not previously connected with the civil ser of public affairs. The noble lord at the head of the Go- vice being appointed to the most important offices. (Hear.) vernment had not ev en ma d e up hi s m i nd as to the course The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he re. he would pursue with reference to the Sebastopol Commit- joiced that this question of administrative reform had been tee—the noble lord had so little decision that he could not brought under the notice of the house. It was a question even make up his own mind on the subject. The noble not only of great importance in itself, but one that had lord invited the house to rescind their vote, and reminded lately occupied a large portion of public attention. It was them of the story of Richard 11., and compared himself to an easy and convenient practice for an association of gen- Richard 11., who led a mob for the purpose of drawing tlernen agreed upon an important subject to call a public them away, and refusing them any promise which he had meeting, to which persons were admitted by ticket to se made them, and finding the house would be neither con- cure unanimity of sentiment. But when such a question tented with his blandishments nor satisfied with his ilhis- as that of administrative reform was brought under th e tration, he then ma d e a b reac h i n t h e constitution, leaving notice of Parliament, it underwent a searching investiga three of his colleagues on the other side of the water. tion by persons representing all shades of opinions and sen (Laughter.) The noble lord seemed to want foresight, timents. The motion which the hon. gentleman proposed decision, and earnestness of purpose. The first military embodied in it the question of administrative reform, but expedition of Lord Chatham against Ro c h e f or t f a il e d , i t was at the same time a vote of wait of confidence in her but the public w ere no t dissatised, because they knew Majesty's Government. The sentiments of the right hon. it arose from no want of vigour in the Minister. But gentleman for Oxford (Mrs Gladstone) were not fully borne from the first, the noble lord at the head of the Govern- out when he said that that was only a theoretical question, meet led the people to believe he was trifling with the the discussion of which would lead to no practical result. solemnity of the occasion, and showed a vacillation and a He begged to say that the practical result would be the want of sagacity which reminded them much more of Lord res:gnation of the present cabinet. That was a practical North than of Lord Chatham. There was another conside- question. It was practically a vote of want of con Vence ration, Let bins ask the most partial supporter of the noble in her Majesty's Government. This was the second vote ord whether the noble lord had not entirely failed to carry of this kind submitted to the house during the last fort out the principle upon which his Government was con- night. A similar question had already been decided upon strutted ? Why, Lord Panmure declared upon his appoint- the negotiations at Vienna. In considering this question went, not that he would carry out forthwith a vigorous of administrative reform it was important to retain in and well-digested plan, or that he would reform that system view the distinction between the executive and the of which the country complained—that the evils against legislative duties of Government. In a popular Govern which the public so loudly and so justly inveighed should merit the two must always be kept distinct. The latter be put an end to—that he would pursue a course the op- had a right to ask their confidence, or to ask them to posite to that pursued by his predecessor—that he would withdraw it. It was impolitic to bring forward a vote of institute a different state of things from an army without want of confidence, and if votes of this kind were brought food, shelter, clothing, or medicine, in a condition which forward, they must ask the house to give them a decided made humanity shudder —not at all, but that he would negative. This motion, in effect, went to show that the carry out the views of his predecessor, the Duke of New- public interest had been sacrificed to public feeling. Now, castle, to their full extent. Now if the views of the Deke he would ask whether it was possible to exempt it from of Newcastle were right, why exchange Newcastle for PAD- party and political influence? If they looked at the United mure ? All dispassionate men acknowledged the humanity States, they would see it carried to a much greater extent and industry of the duke, and hoped he would have a place than in this country. When apolitical party in the United in the service of his country hereafter. The only fault which States succeeded to power, not only the political, but all he was charged with was, that he had not fully attended to the subordinate offices were filled up. In the most popular the condition of the army, and provided fortheir want:. But Government on the face of the earth, the change was much Lord Panmure, so far from owning this or promising a dif- more complete than in this country, Then they come to ferent course, declared he would follow in the footsteps of the other question—namely, whether merit was sacrificed his predecessor; and this, together with the language and to political influence. It could hardly be denied that per the vacillating conduct of the noble viscount at the head of sons should not be excluded from public offices by their the Administration, excited the middle classes of the coon- connection with hereditary descent. It it was an honour try, and made them declare and feel that there was no use relei from e Crown rewards for distinguished in trusting trusting to one Mi n i s t er more than another—that all vices in ve civil and th military capacities, then a conuexion with were ready to sacrifice the interests of the country to the that class could be no disparagement. It had always been conventional courtesies of a drawing-room clique. They the pride of this country, that no distinct lice was drawn therefore declared that a sweeping change must be made, between the several classes of society, but it would appear not only in Ministers, but in the whole system of Admini stration, from the argument of the h en , gen tl eman, that he supposed stration, and take th e f unc ti ons of the Executive into that the practice of aointi peers to hih offif their own uncomp rom i s i ng h an d s. And for all these state had increased rather than diminished of years, dangers yearso, dangers he held the noble lord opposite responsible. It was but history showed that a large proportion of the offices not until the noble lord came into office that the country had at all times been held by the aristocracy. When Mr. was aroused, and by these public meetings threatened to Pitt, on overcoming the coalition of Lord North and Mr. take the business out of the hands of the Government. Fox, came into office, he was the only commoner in the (Hear.) The people expected something more from the Administration. (Hear, hear.) He alone sustained the noble lord than levity and jokes. Well, then, he would great struggle, but ho was unsupported by a single put this this question to the noble lord and his colleagues. rnoner. That example showed the practice of that day. Did they construct themselves into a Cabinet merely for But the hon. gentleman next attributed the disfavour of the the purpose of carrying out the measures of the last rn Go- bli to their want of eciency in administrative ability. vernent ? If so, ho w d ee ply h a d th ey i n j ured the Duke W pu ell, c he admitted that a ffi blind adherence to routine trans of Newcastle—(hear, hear)—and how egregiously had they formed the executive to a mere machine. Nevertheless, duned the expectations of the people. If the Government routine was necessary to the transaction of all business ; said they came into office with plans and with improve- for instance, how could the business of that house be con sents of their own, then why h a d th e y so greatly eulo- ducted without adhering to routine? It was the same gised the Duke of Newcastle, and without distinction with Government departments. He was unable to assent praised all he had done ? (Hear, hear.) Well, what had to this motion of the hon. member. With regard to the the Government produced ? They had promised some motion of the right honourable gentleman opposite, if the paltry reforms without embodyi ng one single true ptin- amendment was to be construed by its plain and straight ciple, or showing any evidence of inventive faculty. What forward meaning, riot by the speech of the bon. baronet, the Government had proposed was not enough—they ho saw no difficulty. At the same time he al u infor m had launched the country into wa r without any plan, and the house that a careful revision of the sever public de without taking any preparation for it. The noble vie- partments had taken place of late years. The motion was count had exposed the country to great dangers. Was not justified by any omissions of the Governments pre there a man who did not consider how serious were the viously existing. He would call attention to the steps consequences to the whole social and political systems in already taken for a revision of some of the principal de the present state of public feeling? Let him entreat the house to askwhich themselves thiscoulddirection of hon. friend now th e S ecretary of State presided over that doors something hi g hly c l angorous; an d what was of far office. He (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) was then more importance than any particular Government or mere Under Secretary. A revision took place, in which Sir aristocratic incapacity —a danger to the principl e of re- presentative Goveinment. Th ose w h o d e b ate d thi s Chagas Trevelyan car e f u ll y exam i ned the department. In pies- 1.848 a revision of the department of the Treasury also took tion against the influence of party, and against the ieflu- place. Sir Charles Trevelyan and Sir William Gibson once of Parliamentary connection, could not be aware of Craig discharged the duty of inquiring into the department. the consequences which were likely to iesult. To judge They made a careful examination, and various reforms were from the language held it was intended to make Ministers introduced into tho department. In 1849 a simila r revision hple ,ende n t of the influence and the opinions of party. took place of the Colonial-office. Since that time, in nearly That was the only way to interpret the language used out of all the public departments, extensive reform s we re ma d e , doors, and the result would be that the Crown would be- and the rule now was, that merit and qualification were come as absolute as in former times. If th ese meetings . did the tests of admission to the public service. A recent not mean to destroy Parliamentary parties, what did - they order in council provided for the admission of candidates mean? They expected, perh a p s , t o b r i ng parliamentary pro- for situations in tho public service to a greater extent th an ceedings into contempt. L e t the h o us e n ow s ee whether the over before existed, and their appointment would depend Whigs could deny that ev er si nce th e y camp into power it solely on merit, carefully ascertained by a severe and im had not been their especial character to make a marked partial exemination. This was a practical proof of th e i n distinction between themselves and the subordinate mem- tention of the Government to secure the best men for the h ers o f their party. They drew around them a circle, best places. He would only stet° his convictio n th a t any whi c h might be called their celestial empire, and to the four practical measure for the advancement of Administ ra ti ve corners they banished their subordinates. During the last Reform would meet his support, and be was sure th e Ga vernment would give any such measure their most careful 20 years the public had seen this exclusive system of family government. ' A question was now raised against the go. consideration. (Hear, hear.) verning classes, which, he believed, was much exaggeristed. Lord GODERICH moved the adjournment of the debate He, however, believed that the dangers might be laid to whereupon the house diided, and th ere appeared v the door of the Gove rnmen t. H e wou ld d o t h e no b le lord A ga the adj0urnment............ the justice of sayi ng th a t h e th oug ht h e was more disposed Against it Majority f or th e a dj ournment —2ll 29 240 to break down the sy s t em of exc l us i veness th an the Go vernments before him—that h e was h ones tl y d es i rous to The debate was then a dj ourne d . extend his ran g e o f se l ec ti on ; an d he thought that in on e CONSOLIDATED FUND (10,000,000/ BILL. of his appointments—the post of Chief Secretary for Ireland, The house then went into committee on this bill, and a post which required the union of firmness and ability, the clauses having been agreed to it was reported to the and the power of debating questions in that house—hailed house. been sineularly fortunate. He (Sir E L. Bulwer Lytton) believed th a t th e p u bli c h a d grown t i red of purely Whig COURT OF SESSIONS SCOT LAND BILL. On the motion th a t thi s bill b e read a third time, Administrations, and sooner or l a t er th e i r d oom wou ld be Mr. F. SCOTT moved that it be read a third time that sealed. Mr. Burke said that the Whigs of his time never day three months. had a majority in the country, but that they owed their After some discussion, Mr. DISRA.ELI hoped Scotch members would not, in position to dexterous management ; and at this time, they said to the Radicals, "Support us, or you will let in the first instance make inflammatory speeches, and then those dreadful Tories," and to the Tories they said, "yon withdraw thei r o p pos iti on, after wasting much valuable must bear with u s , or th ose h orr ib le Radicals will come time. in." H© fully b e li eve d th a t thi s d ev i ce was worn out. With The bill was th en or d ere d to be read a third time on regard to admini s t ra ti ve re f orm, h e thought that they must Monday week. Wee this measure as soon as poss ibl e i nto the i r own hands. . —not in the gr a d ua l manner w hi c h t h e r i ght hon. member BILLS OF LADING (N o. 2) BILL. The went for the Univ ers ity o f O x f or d h a d stated--but at once and On hthe 4touse h clause being proposed, for ever ou t o f th e h an d s o f t h e agitators. He would not touch on the ques ti on o f army re f orm, as he thought that After Borne discussion, were better to be separated from administrative re-. Mr, HENLEY, considering that the clause was of too form, and to bs made the subject of a distinct debate (Hear, hear.) A s t o a d m i n i s t ra ti ve re f orm, the elaborate much importan ce t o b e disposed of at that hour, moved speech es o f th e r i g ht h on. gentleman the member for Ox that the Ch a i rman s h ould report progress, and ask leave to sit again, which was agreed to. L m T E H R E s T E O D N . U , C i nA answerT I O N t 0 BILLS. a question by Sir J. ford (Mr. Gladstone), and of the hon. gentleman who spoke seco id in the debate, would save him the necessity of quo- Lord PA Pakiugton, said it was not in his power to fix a day for tations from the valuable reports of committees of the the farther discussion of these bills, as the debate of that house on the different subjects which come under that general night stood adjourned till Monday. head. He would, on the authority of those gentlemen, F I o C f E Mr. O OF w S A T I:, take it for granted that there was an imperative want of A-lEEthe following gen a iministrative reform. The hon. gentleman then named Upon the motion OF the principal administrative reforms which he wished to ties,. on were nominated the Select ' see immediately effected, and which, as far we could Office of Speaker :—Mr, Wad rile Committee upon the , Lcrd J. Russell, Mr. gather, were the following: —namely, a primary examine- Disraeli. Sir G. Grey, Colonel Patt tier' to be applied to all candidates for admission to the Mr. Bright, Mr. Ellice, Sir W. Heatlicote, the Attorney-General, en, civil service ; a more jadicious regulation of sa grits ; the Sir F. Thesiger the Lord-Advocate institution of good-service pensions ; the bestowal of the , Mr. Fitzroy, Mr. Baines, Mr. Freshfield , and Sir R. Fero the and prizes in the service to those who belong to it; The house adjourned rguson. at half-paet 1 o'clock. the consolidation of the several disjointed departments into a compact unity, so as to allow of promotion from one department to another; responsibility of the men ; merit as tho o tradition of promoti Na ; and that jedici ,us steps should be immediately taken to secure that merit in the service, and to assure to it the rewards which the service could afford. These were reforms which could be made, but they were such as required a vigour that the Go vernment had not shown, and a generous determination to induce merit and to encourage exertion. Now, as to the Treasury minute he was not satisfied with it, nor was the country ; and he wOuld tell the Government why. The objects which were to be sought were, to pro cure the largest available amount of energy and intelli gence for the service of the country, first, by means of competition, and next, by furnishing professional induce ments to those who were in the service. Tho Government had done by that declaration in the Treasury minute what would frustrate those objects. They did not widen the range of candidates ; they still retained for the civil ser vice the character of a close borough ; and again they did not assure even those who became candidates of any of the prizes of the service. According to that minute, a man might have prepared himself for the severest examination, and yet find that, without any preparation or examina tion, a man might be put over his head. (Hear.) Again, he differed from the right bon. member for Oxford in thinking that these reforms ought to be introduce.i bit by bit, and that they should ge dawdling on with our public establishments for the next 20 years, He was of opinion that; whatever reforms might be adopted, and whatever regulations for the encouragement of merit, and as a sti mulus to exertion, these all should be applied at once to all our establishments, so that no new reform in one might be contrasted with the lingering abuses of another. But in the course pursued by the Government they bad only announced their desire to attract merit to the senior prac ticel department, when another announcement followed immediately after that the three great prizes—the director general of stores, the director-general of contracts, and the assistant d irector-general of the army clothing department —(cries of " hear, hear')—had been given away to men much more connected with the Government than with the service. Nothing could be more injudicious at a time. when popular excitement ought t o b e a ll a y e d. than such audacious specimens of personal favouritism. (Cheers.) He said he could not vote for the hon. gentleman's motion, because, independently of the objections to it which he had stated, he must connect that motion with the language used out of doors on the subject, and he could not consent to sanction views and opinions which, apart from admi. i etrative reform, .he must consider unsound in principle and perilous in consequences. He was desirous that the house should express their opinion on the subject of administra tive reform. But he was sorry to say that not the least dangerous character which had been exhibited in the course of this agitation—encouraged, too, by hen. members of the house—wes the attempt that ha,l been made to disparage the character of the house itself. For himself, as acting with a party, were hie views to amount to nothing but party objects, he might consider it his interest to connive at that attempt, and conclude that that tribunal must be wrong which thwarted the purposes of his party. But he had found that the more familiar he had become with books and with mankind, the more deeply was the patrio- COUNTRF VAPKETS, CATTLE.—Prime beef, 12s 6d per score ; COWS and calves 101. 00s to 16/. ; butchers' calves, 5d to 51d per lb., rearing calves —s to -- s each. Sheep, 6d to Bd. Lambs, Od to Od per lb. Store hogs, large size, 00s to 00 s each; slips, 00s to 00s ; small, 00s to 003. Rough fat, 44d per lb. Pork carcases from 10s Od to 108 ad per score. 1 INVERNESS.—JuNE P. ley?ocrev.—aliWhere3alts, o w d h t i o te 3 , 2 p s e o r a q ; r. d , i 7 t i o s , O c d oin to m 7 o 6 n s , o 3 ,l o . s o ß d a t r o . 31s Od. Oats, 4s Od to 32s Od. MEAL.—.Oatmealsecond, 00s,per imp. boll 24s Od to 25s Od : ditt o Od to Os Od barleymeal, 16s 6d. to 168 8d ; peasemeal, 16 Gd to 20s Od; bran, per stone, Os &l to 9d ; Ist ilour, per 28 01 b, 57s Od to 60s Od ; 2d ditto, 48s Od to 00s Od ; oatmeal, b es t , per at. of 141 b imperial 2s Z 1 to Os Od ; ditto second, Os Od to Os Od ; barleymeal is 8d to 00s Od ; peasemeal, is 10d to Os 04; Ist flour, 330 d cash 3s 6 • d credit; 2d ditto, 24 6d cash, 2s 9d credit. —_—___ BRISTOL SUGAR —JUNE 15. The market has been quiet this week, the sales not amounting to more than from 2CO to 300 hhds. of West India. Prices the turn in favou r of the dealer. Kanufac turere' produce meets with a moderate sale, but late cur rencies were barely supported. COAL MARK. %-Juzrz 15. ;be close of the market, Prices of Coal per ton at t s. 1 Rate's West Hartley 17 6 Buddle IV. Hartley 1 1 8 8 6t NLaonartbhtoriWt-ta.t110.a.ne.n...4....'....14....e.. .. ...... 1290 0 Eiasting's Hartley Holywell .... ... ... . lB 0 Peusher .................... 18 6 North Percy Hartley _l7 6 Plummer ... ............... 19 0 Tonfield 'Moor l5 6 Richmond ............... 18 6 I Tanfield Moor Butes 15 6, Russell's fletton .......... 19 Wylam 17 0 South Hetton .............. 0 6 !Hartlepool ................ 20 A Wallsend, &e. Heugh Hall. ............... 18 3 Acorn Close lB I Kelloe. ...................... 19 Gosforth l7 9 Tee s 3 ........................ 20 Harton lB OiTrimdon ......... .. ......... 18 0 Heaton Riddell l7 6 Howard's Wesi Hartley Edeu Main 19 3 Netherton ............... 18 6 Braddyll l9 6 DcrwentwaLer Hartley.lB Kepler Grange l9 3 6 Ships at market... 126 I Sold .. 99 COURSE OF EXCHANGE.—YESTERDAY. Amsterdam . .• 11 184 Gibraltar .... Ditto, three months .. 11 191( Leghorn .... ...... 29 90 Rotterdam ............ 11 19% G enoa Antwerp 25 45 25 40 Milan ...... •..... Bras, els ...... ........ 25 40 I V en i ce ...... .• •• am burgh .. •• • • 13 7 I Naples Altona. • • • .••,. • • • • • Palermo .. • . Paris 25 1714 Messina Ditto, titre ; months .. 2537yti Lisbon .... .. 132 • Morelli% - ........ 25 37% O porto Bourdeaux ...• •• • ltio Janeiro ..... .• • .... Fra.nkfort.on aine 1 I 8 1 ,;( Bu en Ayre5......... Ayres.... Berlin .... .••• • • .. New York, GO dpys' sight Vienna .... 12 24 Philadelphia ...... •... Trieste .... ••.... 12 25 PRICES OF BIILIICN, PER oz. Petersburg .. 35% Foreign Gold in Bars 43 17 9 Madrid ......... •, 493( Portugal Gold Coin .. .. 00 0 Cadiz .. .•• . • • .... „ 5034 Mexican Dollars 00 0 Barcelona •. • ...... New Dollars .... • 00 0 Seville.. • • I ......... Sliver in bars • 0 5 1% 53% 53% TA PAL AND MILITARY INTELLIGENCE: ADIRALTY, JUNE 15. The following promotions and M appointments have this day taken place : Lieutenant Henry Frederick Maißop, of her Majesty's ship Snake, to be Commander ; Second• Master N. B. Her bert to be Master; Assistant-Paymaster Sydney E. Wright to be Paymaster; Assistant-Engineer Ist Class George Wilson to he Acting Chief Engineer of the 3d class. To be dated May 24. Lieutenant John F. C. Mackenzie, of her Majesty's ship Miranda, to be Commander. Gunner 3d Class John Roberts of her Majesty's ship Ardent, to be 2d Class Gunner. Lieutenant Cecil W. Buckley, of her Majesty's ship Miranda. to be Lieutenant and Commander of the Snake, vice 111`Iiillop. Lieutenant Hugh T. Burgoyne, of her Majesty's ship Swallow, %to be Lieutenant and Commander of the Wrangler. SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. NEWTON RA CES.—TrrunsDA.v. The Newton Purse (in lieu of the Drawing,-room Stakes an nounced for this day) of 25 sovs, added to a Handicap Sweepstakes of 3 sovs each, f or a ll ages. One mile and a quarter. 8 sub s . Mr. Calder's Haxby, 4 yrs, 7st 31b (car. 7st 41b (Aldcroft) 1 Mr. Robinson's Billy Richardson, 6 yrs, Bst 81b (G. Oates) 2 Mr. Moseley's Romeo, 5 yrs, 7st 51b .T. Cliff 3 The following al so ran — Questionable, Prince's Mixtur ) e, Preston Strike. 1 etting-7 to 4 agst Haxby, 7 to 2 agst Questionable, and 4to 1 agst Billy Richardson. A fine race in with the first two, Haxby winning on the post by a short head ; three lengths between the second and third. Preston Strife was nearly a distance behind. The St. Helen's Purse, of 50 soya, added to a Sweepstakes of 7 sovs each, 3 ft; two-yr-olds, Est 81b ; three, Bst 101 b ; fillies allowed 31b ; winners once before starting, 31b; twice, 51b extra. The owner of the second horse to receive back his stake. Half a mile. Thirteen subs. Mr. E. Parr's Stork, 2 yrs, 6st 131 b (including 51b extra) Mr. Half or d' s G o ldh ill, 2 yrs, Est Blb ...... (Quinton) 1 - ......... (T. Mr. E. Bu c kl ey ' s Si ster to Mrs. Rigby, 2yrs, Est 51b ( orpe Th Cliff) 2 ) The following al so ran : —H e i r of Lynne, Eve, Announce- Betting-5 3 ce ment, Dupli c ity, Kitt y, an d Arabia. Betting-5 to 2 agst Goldhill, 3to 1 agst Stork, 4to 1 agst The Heir of Lynne. Won cleverly by half a length ; the second beating the third a length ; Heir of Lynne was a bad fourth, Kit+ y fifth, and Eve sixth. The Great Newton Handicap of 200 sovs, added to a Sweep stakes of 5 sovs each. Certain penalties. The owner of the second horse to receive 201. out of the stakes. One mile and a half. Twenty-one subs. Mr. Palmer's Lurley, by Orlando, 4 yrs, Est 41 b (Quinton) 1 Mr. T. Parr's ( ) 2 Saucebox, 3 yrs, Est 71b, including bulb extra, c tilled Est 81b ........ MMr. Flintoff's ........ Clement Whalebon ....e, 5 yrs, Est 9113 .""""'(Bates) 3 r. Mather's St. Cla re , 4 yrs, fist ...... . .............. cr. am 4 Mr. J. S co tt' s L ouvat, 3 yrs, 4st 111 b (carried 4st 121 b), Mr. Norto n ' s V an W inkle, 3 yrs, sst 111 b (Fordham) 5 (W. Du n) Bettina-6 to 4 agst Louvat, 4to 1 agst St. Care, 5 fell to 1 agst Saucebox, 6t o 3 agst Lurley. W on rather cleverly by half a length. Three lengths between the second and third, and a head between the third and fourth. Pace severe throughout. Selling Stakes of 3 sovs each with 30 added ; for three-yr-ads and upwards; optional selling weights. One mile and a distance. Eleven subs. Mr. Calder's Haxby, by Foynton, 4 yrs, 7st 121 b (30/.) (Alderoft) 1 Mr. Dawson's Chisel, 3 yrs, 7st 13113 (30/.) ............ (Bates) 2 Mr. Norton's na Cassio, 5 yrs, 7st 131 b (30/4 'Waddington) 3 The following also ran :—Mountain Maid, Vivid, The Ba ronet, Criterion, Betting-2 to 1 agst Chisel, 2to 1 agst Haxby, sto 1 agst Cockspur. Won by a head. Bad third. The winner was bought in for 101 guineas. The Warrington Handicap of 50 sovs, for two-yr-olds and upwards. Mr. Morris's Comfort, by Birdcatcher, 4 yrs, Bst (Basham) 1 Mr. S. Smith's The Cripple,- 4 yrs, Est llb (T. Cliff) 2 Mr. Mather's Rose, 3 yrs, sst 101 b (Walters) 3 The following also ran :—Little N e ll, Cigarette, Parma, Anniversa r y . Betting ---3 to 1 on Comfort, 5 to 1 agst The Cripple, 6 to 1 agst Rose, 7to 1 agst any other. Comfort made all the run ning, and won very easily by a length. Same distance be tween second, third, and fourth. PA RLIA MENTA HY DIVISION. HOUSE OF LORDS —.TUNE 15. - The following is the majority of Peers who voted in favour of mittee referring the Reli g i ous W orship Bill to a select com :— DUKES Nelson Gloucester Leeds Vane St. David's Cleveland Sheffield BARONS MARQUISES Beauchamp Berners Salisbury Macclesfield Sondes Bath Vissonyrs Bayning Drogheda Hawarden Redesdale EARLS Doueraile Churchill Derby Bisnors Lilford Hardwicke London Auckland Abergavenny Chichester Colville Talbot ' Meath Ravensworth Malmesbury Killaloe Colchester Wilton Kilmoro Tenterden Harewood Ripon Wynford Romney Hereford Feversham Powis St. Asaph Bateman Dououghmoro Oxford FRIDAY. The Two Year Old Selling Stakes. Mr. Moore's b f by Mountain Breeze, by Storm (20 sovs) Mr. E. Buckley' s b f Si s t er t o M rs Rib (Foam ) 1 gy, 7st (2014 (Thorpe) 2 rTbliyeaNVl%ellke Mr. Whitaker's b c Salmon, 7st 31b (201.) gf un day) 3 The following also ran :—b f Sister to Noddy, b r f An nouncement, br f Prince's Mixture, ch f Eve, br f Baroness, br f Magic Spell, b f Little Nell, and Lady Florence. , Bst 121 b ............................... (A.ld croft) 1 Betting-2 to 1 agst Sister to Mrs. Rigby, 4to 1 agst Mo an. i.i; ............... (Basilan') 2 ;t wo a lengths Breeze, between e l f i Stork,r a s g s t p , t a c erke M agic b o ys n d a S a and b d e ol l e l f i r h l o i o r r d W B S . O ivrs les east, each.. bought in for 550 guineas, Stork . (Whitehouse) 3 Mr. E. Lym e Pari T ' h s e bi: (including 51b extra) length between second and Mr. Morris's b f Tilly, Bst 91b .... MrlieHttainlfgo—rdE'svbein•conFinshielry72anoBista.gB7 t _ ach, for all ages. TFhisebeGrmraanud. StandlYon by en a p h o ea r Imsoustebv,s e _. s (in specie), added to a d 1 ; 00 a 1:, , and 3to 1 agst third. ,s an b dic e ap E Mr. Fawcett (carried fist 11b) . .. bY Collingvvood, 3 yrs, Est Mr. Williams's br C ........... ............................... (1. Gill) 1 3 (Bates) 2 Mr. T. W. Redhead's bh 1; yrs, 7st Dear Me, 5 yrs, 7st 71b (Aldcroft) 3 The following also ra gist, Venison, Van Winkl:- 'Catherine Parr, Hercules, Enlo e, Medal, Timotheus, Nell Gwynne, Steelyard, and Bovine , Be Betting -3 to 1 agst: tsy. Hercules, 9 to 2 agst Catherine Pair, 5 to 1 agst Dear Me, 9 to 1 each agst Exmouth and Eulogist, 10 to 1 each agst Steelyard and Venison, and 12 to 1 agst Bolton. 'Won in a Canter by two lengths, the same between second and third, and a neck between third and fourth. Run in 2n.tin. 12see. The Ashton Handicap Plate of 50 sovs, for all ages ; half-a mile. Mr. Morris's b f Comfort, by Binicateher, 4 yrs, Bst ala.slgaii) 1 Mr. T.W. Redhead's br h Dear Me, syrs, Est 131 b (Thorpe) 2 Mr. Clark's b f Cimicina, 3 yrs, fist 71b atothery) 3 Pr c by Blackstrap, Anniversary, and The Lady Abbess also ran. Betting-4 to lon Comfort. Won easily by two lengths ; a length between second and third._ The following is a List of the Peers who voted against Lord Derby's motion to refer the Religious Worship Bill to a select committee : The Lord Chancellor Granville 13AROXS Camoys Clarina Calthorpe Congleton Leigh liostyn Middleton Vlscourrrs Sayo and Sele Canning Stanley of Alderley Falkland Wodehousa Sydney PAIRS. DUKE Harrowby Argyll Minto MARQUISES Somers Breadalbane Suffolk Westminster • Spencer EARLS Waldegrave Bessborough Burlington Chichester Fo rtescue Fitz william FOR. AGAINST. Duke of Ca m b r id ge Earl of Durh am Earl of Strathmore Lord Mo n t eag l e Earl of E rn e Lord Vivian Viscount Canterbury Lord Poltimore Viscount St. Vincent Lord Glenelg Earl De la Warr Lord Portman Earl of Lanesborough Earl Fitzhardino Lord Forester Earl CoWper g Earl of Cardigan Earl of Sefton Bishop of Worcester Lord Foley Duke of Buckingham Lord Brougham Bishop of Lincoln Earl of Abingd o n Duke of Northumberland Earl of Ellenbor ugh Duke of Buccle uc h Earl of G Earl of Beverl e y Lord Cremorne Lord Kenyon Air Lord Bantry Earl of li e Earl of Bradf or d Lord C rewe Lord Lyndh ure t Lord P aumurc Earl of Jersey Lord E n fi eld Earl of addington Earl of S carborough H Earl Earl of Egli n t on Lor of Clarend on Earl of Lucas d Plunket Lord Campbell W T h e , e Selling Plate six of 50 hers sovs was won at three heats by Kitty beating ot. A Constantinople letter of June 4 states that Abd- e l- Kader has accompanied his mother and his wife au far PConstantinople, on th eir way to Mecca; on a pil image. LIVERPOOL—RI - 5E 15, The corn exchange this morning was thinly attended by millers and dealer; whose purchases were restricted to im mediate requirements for consumption. The following re duction may be quoted :—About 2d per bushel on wheat, is to is 6.1 per sack on flour, and is per qr. on Egyptian beans. Oats, barley, and oatmeal were very dull of sale. Indian corn about is decline from Tuesday, making the reduction from this day se'enig,ht is 6:1 per qr. WAKEFIELD—JurrE 15. The corn trade dull and inactive during the week, caused by the fine growing weather ; supplies mod era t e. The re duction in the price of whe a t has induced several holders to withdraw their samples; millers still act cautiously, and we quote prices is to 2s per qr. lower than on this day se'nui4ht. Barley the turn dearer. Oats and shelling without variation. Beans as before. Little doing in other articles. EXETER —JUNE 13. CORN.—In our market wheat may be quoted from 98 3d to 9s 9d. Malting barley, 4s 6d to 5s Od ; grinding do., Os Od to Os Oc.. Oats, 3s 8d to 4s Od. Beans, Os Od to Os Od. Peas, ON Od to 00s Od. FLOUR. —Fine, 56s Od to 58s Od ; seconds, 51s Od to 56s Od per sack. TEE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, JUNE 16 1855 8. d. ter • vi ow; c be b "