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PARLIAMENT, HOUSE OF LORDS, FgR. 24. The House met about half-past four o'clock. Mr. Bradley, from the Mint, presented Accounts resl►ecting the Silver Coinage, the Prices of Gold and Silver, &c. which were' ordered to be printed, The Annual Indemnity Bill and the Election Polls (Ireland} Bill, were read rt•econd time, the contmi►tnent. negatived, and the Bills ordered la be read a. third time to-morr-►w. The Expiring Law's B 11, the Local Jurisdic tions Rill, and the Mutiny Continuation Bill passed through Committees and were reported without amendn►enr. 7 0 ,hitilLEGES OF THE fIOTTSE RESPECTING GRANTS 'OF s . uvrr.Y.. _ The ERI.I of LAUDEItnALn rose, in• pm•sooiler of nosier, observing.t ha! the case he bait to stare, was so plain, and cleattl , at !bete was no nectpity for taking up Much or their Lirdships'' . ointe. it bad been the unit° , m practice of P.. ) .1 .inent for. a great number.of years, that all the Votes of Sn.p ply passed by the I-Irmse of Commons, during the Session, should he included in an Appropriation Bill, which. came up to the !louse for its astieni in the usual ""y. ant it wasthe,undonlitril right, of th, it Lordships. thus, to exercise a lt%-,tishilivc power with regard to the supplies voted by 'the oilier House. In the . persent instance that prac, lice had, without apy t necessity,:hccu departed from, and be thought it was incunibent upon their Lordships to as sert their undoubt e d r i g h ts , an d to rftfLosome Resolution disapproving of (Itch a pro ceeding,—a procceilit hicb, was certainly. eon ! trary to the Consritution ; nod which WAS so . r'e ci'ted in 1784. Svben,the Hone of Common, psi ed a Resolution, declaring. it ar high crime and misdemeanor. for any Officer ott the Crown to apply . ..4l9nel in any branch of the public ger m e without the aathoii:y -of an Act of Par- Jitiment. But in this case there 'were not Only the votes of sums of. money .for the public ser vice, but fie. Douse. of Commons had actually voted a`'ourn of money to pay annuities under the Civil List Act, Which expired on the demise of hit: Majesly..i and they had .thns assumed a power, of then; own- authority, to suspend the.operat ion of the law which declared that these annul it aboidd not be paid. This particularly applied to the case .of the an n ual • sum granted. to the Prin.. cessof Wales, about ,which, according ,to..report, MI6 had,heen said i t) the Commons House of Parliament, 'Were Ministers aware to what ex tent these votes went Was it not the effect of them to continue to the King the .income.granteg to his Majesty as Prince of Wales, as well as the amount of the Civil List, vo,ilst a portion of she let edit ray revenues also fell to the Crown ? - Re sprctini. the latter there ,was no account, and Ministers themselves did not seem to be aware of &tie extent to which the votes went. It was in vain for the Noble Earl plionsite to ' recur to she precedents of 17154 and 181)7 in these cases Par liament was dissolved ; by the. act of. the Crown without any previous communication of its inten tions, but in the present case there was a previ ous communication 'of the intention of the Crown to dissolve the Parliament, which rendered the present case perfectly unprecedented, and which undoubtedly rendered it incumbent upon the Ministers of the Crown to take care that no essential forms. were dePatted trotn. If the House of. Commons could then, in one ! instance, assume the power of voting the public money vvi!bout the concurrence of their,. Lord ships, what Was to prevent themfrom,settiog aside the privileg es o f their Lordships' House ? It surely was incumbent upon the Noble Lords opposire to take care that no such precedent was estgblistrtd, for if the Upiversa),Suffrage and An nual Parliament men could. unhappily, gain the ascendancy, there could be no doubt that the first step of a House of Commons so constituted would be to set aside the Legislative- Privileges of that Douse, and here would be a precedent established ttl assist them. It was not h is wish to impede the public business, or now to embarrass the course of pro c eeding which had been acted upon, bit he thought it indispensable that the Muse should come to some Resolution expresSive of their, opinion upon the subject, in order that they might at least protest against the power thus assumed by the House of Commons. His Lordship co n _ eluded by moving the following Resolutions : " Resolved—That t appears from the Votes of the Iloaie of Cumulous now on the Table of this House, that the Com- mous' House of Parliament have voted the following Resolu tikllS :- 1. " "That a Sum, not exceeding .2,000,00.91. be granted to his Majesty to. pay off and discharge Jrish Treasury Bills, charged upon the Aids or Sapplies of 18W, outstanding and unprovided for." 2. " That a Sum, not exceeding 50,0001. be granted to his Majesty, upon account, to enable his Majesty to provide fur such expences of a civil nature, as do not form a part of the ordinary charges of the Civil List for the year i if)." " That there be granted to his Majesty the suns of 00,0001. toward; satisfying such Annuities, Pensions, Of other Payments, as would have been payable out of the Cou solidatcd Fund of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, or out of the Civil List, in case the, demise of his late Majesty had nut taken place before thY sth day of April, I 820." 4. " That a Sum, upon account, net exceeding 20,0001. net, be granted to his Majcsty"towards defraying the charge ofArrny Services in Ireland for the year ; 1320." S. " That a Sum, upon account, Hot exceeding 690,0e0i. be grante4 to hi .Majesty towards defraying the charge of Army Services at Hume aN.d Abroad,,gxcept in Ireland, fur the year 1 829." " Resolved—That The Commons'. House of Parliatnent, in formed by hisNlajtistesNe‘kage of the intended dissolution of Parliament, have, in these Resolutions, attempted to ap propriate urtaney to he paid•for services-subsequent to the dissolution, which can only legally be effected by an Act of appropriatiin the supplies voted; and that they bare further, in it most unprecedented manner, assumed the power ofproviding for, ant authorising the pa7ment of cer tain Pensions and Annuities, subsequent to the dissuluticti of Parlianient, which by law are declar e d to be at an end. " Resolved—That, under these circumstances, we iCkl-it Our duty to declare, that though we regard these proceedings as derogatory to file privileges of this House and of Parlia ment, yet we are induced, by a sense of the state in which public business is now &aced, to &rhear from any immediate proceedings, and to declare, that . we will concur in indemni fying those who may pay money, or otherwise act under these Resolutions, which we must nevertheless deprecate, as threatening the subversion of the best and wisest principles of the Constitution of our C auntry." The Etrl of LivEttrooz, observed, that it bad been the invariable practice of Parliament since the Revolution, for no grant to be made, nor any sum to be levied upon the. people, without the /tuition it y of an Act of Parliament ; and this was so strictly Adhered to, that in the case of a hen, though the bargain was made between the First Lord of the Treasury and the Chancellor. of be Exchequer and the Contractors, and the first instalme n t aettially paid, still it was paid into the Barth, and. not touebeAl by any one till authorised to he ! tram') out for the public service by an -Act of Perliamertt. But with respect to Votes of Sup ply, the practice had been different ; it had been the constant practice for the !louse, of Commons , to vote various sums for different branches of the fluidic service, under the authority of which votes alone the money had been applied. It was true that all these votes were included in the Appro priation- Bill, which at the end of the. Session came.ty..lo..their .Lordships!..House ; hut. the. fact ava. r , fha.r. frequently, particelarly : it rhe , Session ~ : as l o n g , l k ult,the money wanted for the different h'rkinclies of the public service had been expended before thc . Approptiation Bill was brought np to that House. He . could not seemly difference of - principle, therefore, between the case he, had just stated, and that of a dissolution happening in the middle of the usual period of a Session, after.the.meeting-of the new Parliament, ao Appropriation Bill, including all ,the sems voted, might still be passed. As, to the Re solution pasied.in 1784, it, in his mind, proved the. direct contrary-of what was. urged by. the Noble, Earl, as it . sbotva-d that the .practice, of the Home of Commons had been what be had lust stated ; and it was well known that the Ob ject of passing that Resolution. was .to prevent a. dissolution which woe suapected lobe intended by. the Crow n. But thepass . ing . .seth a Resolntion, proved that the practice bad been different to mbar that Resolution referred to. Walt regard to the C-vil List Act, it was not .correctly stated that it had expired, as : thoogh the-sums named io it ceased to be payable, the regulations in the Act Were of the Dal tire of permanent regulations, and all that had been done was to vottea sum for current expences for tire quarter ituerveniog between tile dissolution of the present Parliament - Ondahe call ing of a new one. He did not see the necessity of coming to any Resolution upon the subject ; but at all events be could not agree,to the Reso lutions of the .Noble Lord, which conveyed a strong censure upon the House of Cotnmons, their Las-!ships having„ it) their Address to the Throne, pledged tbeinsehres to concur ,in apy measure. for expediting the public business. fie was, how-, ever, ready to meet the views of the Noble Lim/ in some respects by a Resolution 'recognizing -the rights, of that Rouse, and be therefore .moved, as an amendment, to leave out the Resolutions after the statement of the Resolutions of the House"of Commons, and to insert, that this House, from the ,rate of the .public business, acquiesce in these Resolutions although no Act may be passed to give them effect." The Marquess of LANSDoWNE slid, the question Was one of the greatest importence, as -affecti ng the constitutional:: rights of that House and when it was asserted that their Lordships had in their Address to the Throne agreed - to expedite the public business as much as possible, he must tell the Noble Earl that they had not agreed to abandon, their constitution) rights.,. The cases where the floose of Commons acted in the usual manner in their votes, without being informed of there being any imentionon the-part of the Crown to dissolve thew, were total 4 different fromthe pre sent intsance, where the ,information of the inten• Pion of the Crown to dissolve the Parliament had been given,- and where, consequently, every ar rangemeut,might,itave been madeto eostne a Fegu lar_cout se of proceeding. That it bad been uniform ly the case since the Revolution, for the grants of public money made by the other House to p ass under the, review of -their Lordships,: in order, to their being incorporated in an Act of the Legis lature,- could not be denied; and the Noble Earl most erroneously described the Resolution of the House of, Comutons,Aml7B4,wben he said 'bat it proved the practice of the i - louse to .be different. The fact was, - that the Resolution was merely de claratory of the law-of the !anti; it appeared-so upon the face of it, -end was-well known to b e so from ! the history, ot, it,. It had been most,troly observed by his Noble Friend, that for the Houie. of Commons to Assume the power of voti ng th e public money without the concurrence of .their Lordships, was a most injudicious precedent to set,: for, there could be .sto . doubt 1-11,1t,if those persons who , aimed ,at our institutions and esta blishments could unhappily obtain the ascendency, the first step of a House of Commons constitut ed by them, would, he to take away the Legisla tiye privileges . of their Lordships. His . Noble Friend had also observed upon the anomalous proceeding to which recourse hod been had with regard to the Civil List, it appearing Majesty would not only, pending the dissolution, have.:bis revenee ,as King of. Enkland, but `also that which was graoted to, hinu as,Prince of Wales, and a portion of the hereditary revenues of the Crown, It .was ,highly proper that the Noble Earl should give ;tome explanation upon this point, ' as it did not appear to base been known to what extent the votewent. The Earl of Liveapoot. !aitl, the vote on ac count of the Civil List was for a spec,fic 20U,000/. and thatj t did n o t in the least interfere with the settlement of the Civil List by the new Parliament. As to the payment of tie annuities tinder the Civil List Act, it Was nothing mote than would have been done as a tnAtter coorse for the current quarter, had Par hilutent continued sitting. '!'be Earl of Doxouoitmopp expressf d his an rinabation of the conduct of The N...bie EHrl, with" whom the motion originaled o Hr the fount. time that he acvicieed is tile aniendialtia, Uy ‘viAlch lie thought that quite enough was done to protect the privileges. of the House. explodes • the splinters c ause d b y t h e exp l os ion spread in - alt directions, and one of them has been , knovro to kill 10 or 12 persons. It w as intende d, to explode the se h orr ibl e i nstruments at the Earl' , of Harrowby's house. The officers, were in pursuit of Thistlewood tilt six o'clock yesterday morning. They searcheu' the house where he resided in Stanhope-street , Clare-market, and all those of his connexion' , but without effect. At half-past ten o'clock, L a' vender, Bishop, Rittliven, Ellis, and Maidmen t left the office, to make another attempt to fin". him. About 12 o'clock Lavender and Bishop were seen stepping out of a hackney-coach, wil l/ Thistlewood in cestodv. He was conveyed int t " - the front office, when he.tmderwent an examine`.'' tion before Mr. Birnie, and it appeared from ft' evidence of the officers, that they found him !R the house, No. 8, White -street, Chiswell.stree 4 in bed in a back parlour, and,• it is supposed , soundly asleep, as their first entrance into room did not awaken him. On the door being" opened., Bishop rushed forward and sprungup o ", him in the bed, arme d w i t h a pistol. Thistfewoon! looked up, and exclaimed, " Is it you, Bishop ? o •ce l i will make no res i stance. " A short examination ,4" Rothven.took place, from which it appeared tbil. g Thistlewood was the man who stabbed Smitherg• At the conclusion of the examination he was taket) the Secretary of State's Office; Mr. Birnie also wei'C' there. The Officers having apprehended all the sons found in the house where they apprehend& Thistlewood, Mr. J. E. Conant, the Magistrate', proceeded with t h e i r exam i nat i on ; they consiste d of.the landlady of the house ; Mrs ; Hill, a lodger', and Lewis C asper , a man w h o did not lod e in it. Elizabeth- Harris, the landlady, stated, that bet husband works at Caslon's letter-foundry. O fi Wednesday she had a bill in her window to lef her lodgings, when in the morning, between lv and eleven o'clock, Thistlewond came into her horse and inquired about the lodging : s h e told him it was only half a bed with her nephew."'" Thistlewood egreed for the half bed, for which be was. to pay two shillings and sixpence a week/ and was ,to take possession of it that night. Slie at first s a id t h at s h e hod a slight knowledge , Thistlewood, but denied it afterwards, It tos supposed she was concealing him, as, be wag locked up in the room. This she explained, saying the door flew open, and she conic.' . not keep it shut without locking it. Skesaid Thistlewoo d arriied at her house -between JO and II o 'clock on Wednesday night ; he observed that be wa g ' late; she replied be was lve, and she had almost' given him up. He then went to bed. Her street' . door standing open only by a latch, the officer°' had entered and searched the upper part before: she knew they were .there, when they asked tier to unlock the door where Thistiewood we , ."` bed, which she instantly did. She did not 1(901' -Lewis Casper b a d b een i n her hone till she fooilt him in the coach With her when they Wo e brought away. Lewis stated himself to be ' s watch , finisher, re.iding in Union -street, Bishops' gate, and accounted for his being in the house bY saying he was with Mts. Hill the lodger, tell ° washes& for him, and he appointed his little b 4 to call for a key there. This men was detained till it was aticertairA if he was the man he represented himself to be• Mrs. Harris and Mrs. Hill were discharged. MORE APPREHENSfONS. A person has been apprehended by Taunton and 114125 k went, charged with making handles for the pikes whicts %ger ° seized at the stables, and committed for further examitNY lion; Prunet, the second leader of the conspirators, has aise been apprehended. John Syninmult, a footman, of No. 20, Upper Seyte/gli „. street, was brought up by Lavender and Bishop, suspecten: being c o n n e cte d w i th the assassins, and giving them intile citation respecting the transactions of the higher orders: was remanded. INIMON COUNCIL. The LORD MAYOR yesterday held a Court' of Common COuncil at Guildhall, which vvfts attended. , The Navigation Committee delivered in 's r t ee ., port of their proceedings, i n oppos i ng an spill': cation to Parliament for an Act for - making Canal from Maidenhead' to the Grand Jnocri°. Canal, and thereby diverting the trade from t he River Thames, and co nsequent l y dest ructive t' the interests of that River, which was agreed t v and approved. Mr. REMEMBUANCI3II reported to the Court I ►i 4 proceedings in respect of obtaining an appoint' ment.for the Sheriffs to wait upon his Mi4J0,17 to kno w his Royal wi ll and pl easure when "- , Court should attend with their Address of Ce ll ' dolente and Congratulation. The LORD MAYOR then suggested the propri r el of the Members of the Court appearing unifoll dressed on that occas i on, and it was left to 1114 Lordship t o g i ve such d i rect i ons as be. 9h '' see fit. Mr. SAMUEL NASH was appointed a Goverl Wr 'of St. Thomas's Hospital: The Tithe Committee presented a Report, r t ; commending 200 guineas to b e sti b ser ibett-,hylli Court to the Commit tee ' o f P ar i shes, i n -a id f their expenees in opposing the , •London ClerfP 13111, which vrasimanimously agreed. to. Upon the. motion o f M gitt -AMES.IViLLIAMS)-- order pt9sed, that no officer of the Court shool be at. liberty to show, lay open, or expuse anY, the books, p a p ers , or recor d s of the Corporati4)) .to ally pers on no t a M em b er, w i t h out the spec i. leave of the Court'. MeSsll. IitioGDEN, NASH, and VALE were.OeCt° et! Coal -meters, and Messrs. G AFI ITT and PLA I ": Corn• meter s , i n trust f or t h e Corporation, lo t ' - period 01 foto. years. Mr. Alderman TMORP was unanimonsly•elect Oovertior, 4141(1 James Crook, Esq. Deputy ° IP. , vernui of the Irish Society, and the Assist:lo Wert appointed for the year ensuing. The several Committees were also appointe4l f °l the,.year ensuing. Mr. Join WEIR NEWSON was unanimously a r e pointed Thi r d A ss i stant to the Hall-keeper, in the I'oolll Of Mr. GEOHGE POETBR, (ieceased. 1,0;s1DON : Print e'l.l by . B. CARSTAIRS, of No. Q 9 Gre r r, Chnioud-stn•et, Queen-slitare; and published by SCRIPPS, of No. 7, South 11101 ton-street, at Tag • , Office, Nes. i 12, Strand ; v. , liery Aeiceitisen:thri, ar deri letten•s, lscc. ipeiit-paieb miist be addresied. The Amendment was then carried without a di- vision. BARNSTAPLE PETITION. The Earl of LAUDERDALE presented a Petition from the Mayor and Corporation of the Borough of Barnstaple, against that part of the Writs' Suspension Bill, as affected the said Borough ; and praying to be heard by their-Counsel against the same. • Along, and in, snnae respects desnitory and_ rather irregu lar, conversation took place on this proposition : in the course of, which the Earl of. Carnarvan, Earl Grosvenor, the Mar quessuf •Lansdovne, asd Lord nacre, (in a first Address), opposed acquiescing in the prayer of the Petition to he heard by Conmsel'; and especially on the qnestion of its second reading, which chiefly went to involve the principle of the, Bill, . . The Earl of LAUDERDALE and the LORD CHANCE!, LOR. argued, at some. length, in favour of hearing.the Peti tioners by Counsel, Some of their Lordships spoke repeat edly in explanation ; at length, the discussion was terminated by a dive inn, when there appeared F.tir. lworing Counsel - - li Against it - - - 11 - Majority - - ---1 The question-for the second reading stands far to-morrow. Adjourned. THE LATE CONSPIRACY. PUBLIC OFFICE, BOW-STREET. The communication of the existence of a con 'piracy to destroy some of the Cabinet Ministers watt only made on . Wednesday morning to the Se cretary of State for the Home Department,hy the Earl of liarrowby, who, it it said, was stopped by a plan when tiding in St. James's Park, who delivered to him a letter, the contents of which were, that a.gang of assassins were to assassinate his Lord ship and the rest of the Cabinet Ministers, when assembled at his house on the evening of that day at a . Cabinet dinner. The Earl of IJarrowby, al thongh he (lid not know the man, listened to his representation, in addition to the contents of the Letter, and afterwards consulted his brother isli nisters upon the subject ; and the result of their determination, in the first place, was to post pone the Cabinet dinner. Precautions were in:- ru, 'timely taken at the Secretary of State's Office or the discovery and apprehension of -th-e The first intimation that was given of the- affair at the office. in BOW -street. was at past seven, o'clock, when it was mode known .that .a -number of officers, constables, and, patrol. would, be want • ed. Ellis, who is a conductor of ,a party of pe tiole, was ordered to leave his division, and re pair to the .offiee with the men 'miler his direction. The expedition upon which,t hey were to be sent wAts kept a secret till they started, which. was be tweet) half past 8 o'clock and 9. The place of rendrzvons Of the 'assassins Was in Cato -street, John•street, en the EagwOre 7 road, where the neighbours' had become alarmed by a _number of strange men assembling iii a Stable, and a loft over it, otter dark' ; sacks being 'hung u p on t h e inside of the wi n d ows lei iirereot detection: In the -course of 'the day inquiries had been made, and-the result was e . that some desperate act was expected to take place. The Minister's ser, vows: were armed h pistols, and two officers or constables appointed to each re•idence„ The Earl of Harrowby and Viscount Castlereagh. dined with the Earl of Liverpool; and at 9 o'clock they went ! tot he Secretary o f St a t e ' s Office for the Home Department, at_ which time all the Cabinet Ministers assembled, Mr..Bilnie, the Magistrate, was directed by Viscount Sidmouth to he in Cato street, and in _readiness to act in case of emer gency. A party of the Guards, under the com mand of Captain Fitzclarence, was ordered to march to • Cato -street,- to assist the Police, if ne cessary. Unfortunately, however, they were not dearly directed, or they did not understand where the place was, as they mere at the contrary end of the' street when the' assassins commenced their murderous attack upon the officers, and it Was only by the discharge of 'pistols that they found out where •the building -was.. When the police-officers • arrived, they found two sentinels at the door armed with guns and swords. These opposed -their admittance without the pass -word. The officers, however, soon overpowered and se cured them. They then gave an .alarm, anti the officers beard by the noise in the loft that several persons were up stairs. They -ascended to the loft by a ladder which the conspirators themselves bad used. BUthven went first ; he was followed by Ellis and Smithers. Th e vi ll a i ns were armed with blunderbusses, musket's, pistols, v pikes, swords, &c., dressed with belts, and appeared in every respect ready to march upon 'their mur derous attack. Ruthven informed. , then) that he and his companions were officers, that they had a warrant to apprehend them, and de sired them to disarm and surrender, which they refused. Snitchers courageously stepped for-. ward, and by this act lost his life; as Arthur Thistlewood thrust a sabre at him, which enter ed a short distance below his right breast,— Smit hers e %claimed " Oh God !" staggered, and fell- As he was in the act of fishing,. Ellis, seeing. his brolher officer butchered, discharged a pistol at Thistlewood, the contents of which missed hint, and lodgssi in the wall; the gang then knocked out the lights,when most of them escaped; the remainder of the gang then ate-acke'd the Officers most furiously, and their numbers far exceeded what was expected ; they were 2 to I against the Officers, and, being desperate, there is every rea son to believe they would have massacred all the Police .officers, had it not been for the timely ar. rival of the military: Elli s recei ve d a slight wound tinder his right knee. W. Westcott was shot at by Arthur Thisdewood, and.afterwards had a most loarrt,w escape ; three other shots baying passed through th e crown otitis hat, arid thelianrth shot through the thick part of his rightihumb.— Chillies Brook s was shot at three times, and only one of them hit him, which pissed thwegh all the clothes on his should,r. JohnAVright received a stab on his right side, from a sword or sabre; hut, owing to his braces being very thick, the point of the deadly weapon came in contact with ;hero, which saved his life. John `Starnnti '(riot Salmou, as reported yesterday) recei.ved a set iOILS WOulld 00 his head. The hand-greoaries found wirk.thein are aboot ibe sire of It large orttoge, tnarle of cast iron, 6:1-, eat With coodtostibles ; they tilre,tr roittict bole, in which is placed .F 1 fose, which., on: being sec fire to, is tbrown by the band, and vrlitu it tails it h to b, City test a t ensi Your , tie s tame quir e ditrin , hist°, tiien lake 1 ,bat i,fi tespe i 1. 0 ,, dc the m; 1 . 0.11 ta njui , r C / : ACC° '4l lS] "d alb tytlii 4itturdi ~~ O E! L • 'lttY '41 11%,, t it I:~>s,: 44 ( 1 1)1 14 Ydr) r d , ki vi gs-N1 i 10. d r an ( . 4 , ( ti''Nl4Ye 4 1)tti to _ ) 4 11 I n , tt• e l to; 1 1 -, G t itt 4,1 d I‘l° ' art. b 1