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V A itLI A MEN I. HOUSE OF LORDS, FRIDAY, JUNE J. The oaths were administered to the Bishop of Rochester and Lore Middleton. Mutiny Bill, the Insolvent Debtors' Bin, and others, were brought up from the House of Commons, by Mr. Lushington, Lord Althorp, IVortley, Mr. Egerton, Mr. Fleming, and other MembPrs; and remd a first time. On the first reading of the Insolvent Debtors' Bill, _ _ The Earl of GROSVENOR adverted to the case of persons imprisoned for contempt of Courts of Equity, observing, that those who were impri sinned for non-payment of money could, he be lieved, take the benefit of the lusoWeil! Act ; but there were others who were imprisoned for re fusing to obey orders of Court, who could not be relieved under that Act ; he was aware that consi derable difficulties stood in the way of granting any relief to persons in that situation, ado he only mentioned the circtonstanee that the atten tion of the Noble and Learned Lord on the Wool sack might he called to it. The LORD CHANCELLOR expresser) 11;$ thanks to the Noble Earl for mentioning the ssobject, as jt gas 4 him (the Lord Chanctllor) an oppor•mii .ty of correcting a mistake which was very preva lent with regard to the cases alluded to. With respect to those persons who .were imprisoned for nu n-payment of money, they were in fact in the same si , natioo as pet sons in execution, and like them they might take the bent fir of the lusolvent Act. If there Was any doubt upon this point he was ready to avec to the insertion of any words that should render it perfectly clear. With respect to the other clat4 of prisons who were in contempt for not obeying coders of Courts in Equity, they were in tact slot kept in pri3O s by any order of Court, but by their own act. Sup pose, for instance, A. was the trustee of an estate, which, after certain uses, he was to convey to 13, and on being ordered by the Court to coney the estate to B„ to whom it in point of fact belonged, he refused, and those to go to prison, and live there, retaining possession of the rents and profits of an estate which be wrongfully kept from the person entitled to it, in what way could they afford re lief to such a person, or to what relief was he en titled ? The Exchequer Bills Funding Bill wis read a third time and passtd. The King's Bench Sittings Bill, the Glass Bill, and the BArrs' Regiiktion Bill. were read a se cond time, and committed for Monday. Ou the motion of the Marquess of LAtsisnowN, some papers were ordered respecting Foreign trade. The Earl of ROSEBBRRY postponed the coot rnitnt, nt of the Scots Peet s Right of Voting Bill till Tuesday. THE QUEEN. The Eat! of LIVERPOOL—My Lords, with re • spect to the Order for the meeting to-morrow of the Secret Committee, to which hate been referr ed the Papers communicated to this house by •Lis Majesty's command, I have merely to state, that discussion and explanation still continue, end I therefore move to pos►pone the meet ing of the Committee from to-morrow till Tue.- day next. The Marquess of LANSDOWN—.It is certainly not my intention, my Lords, to oppose the mo tion, but I cannot help adverting to the singular situation in which, by these successive adjourn ments, this House is placed, atter actually ap pointing a Committee to examine the papers com municated by a Message from the King. It can not have escaped your Lordships' notice, that this is a situation wholly unprecedented, parti cularly when it is recollected that no reason has been publicly assigned for postponing the meeting of the,Committee, anti when it may happen that the Committee will not bave to enter at all upon the consideration of the papers referred to them. This consideration serves to shew the pre cipitancy with which the House has been drawn into the appointment erf such a Committee. it remains to be seen in what way the circum stance can be stated upon our Journals so as to maintain the dignity and the usages of the House. The Earl of DARNLEY—Without the slightest intention of opposing this motion, I cannot help, my Lords, stating my entire concurrence in what bas fallen from my Noble Friend. With all my potions of the dignity of this House, I cannot avoid lamenting that we should have been placed in so extraordinary, not to say disgraceful a si tuation by the precipitancy of the Noble Lords opposite, in persisting in the measure of the ap pointment of a Committee. Had they followed the advice of my Noble Friend, and other Noble Lords on this side of the House . , this dilemma would have been avoided. As it is, however, un doubtedly some entry ought to be made in the Journals of the House, in order to make the pro• ceedings as far as possible consistent with our forms and usages. It seems now pretty clear that the postponement of the Committee arises out of the unexpected conduct of the House of Com- in(11)11. The Earl of LIVERPOOL - It was not my inten tion, my Lords, to have said ■ word upon this subject, involved, as it is, in difficulty and deli cacy, except merely the statement that the con tinuance of discussion and explanation tendered necessary the deliy of the meeting of the Com• puttee; nor was 1 disposed otberwiss than to let tyre question Test in tire situation in which it we; placed by the Noble Marquess. But lcannot si silent, after what has - been said by the Noble Lord who has just sat down, as to the House be ing placed in a disgraceful situation. My Lords, the Home could do no otherwise than it did upon .such a communication being made to us from the Crown; and, as to the postponements, it surely cannot be matter of objection that they have taken place, looking to the reason that has been assign ed for them. With regard to the Journals, it shall be my duty to take care, whatever may be the result of the discussions and explanation-, that a proper entry is made in the Journals, or that 'a proper proceeding shall he had, so as to make the whole consistent with the usages and dignity of the House. The Earl of DARNLRY repeated his objections 1 9 the course of proceeding which had been adopted. The Older for the Meeting of the Committee tomorrow was discharged, and the Committee ordered to meet on Tuesday. ROYAL MARRIAGE ACT. Lord 1-4)I,I:AND—My Lords, I trust your Lord ships will excuse me in now availing myself of the privilege which undoubtedly belongs to every Peer, of at once presenting a Bill to the House ; courtesy and usage also generally allow the first reading of a Bill 30 presented, as a matter of cour'e, thong it 1 do not mean to claim that as a privilege. The first reading, however, of a Bill, being consider ed neatly a matter of course, it is not my intention to enter at length into the reasons and considera tions for bringing this measure forward. 1 shall confine myself to e few words for the purpose of explaioiug the object of it. The purpose of it is simply to repeal the Act of the 12th Gen. 111. commonly called the Royal Marriage Act (here his Lordship briefly described the contents of the Act) ; an Act which I maintain tends to embroil us in foreign wars, which 1 think 1 can prove by no very strained reasoning, tends to produce civil wars,.and which evidently tends to the produc tion of immorality, and to the making of unhappy matriages. Under other circumstances, I might have gone into the consideration as to how tar this Act tends to affect the case which is so pain fully forced upon your Lordship's attention. At present, however, 1 shall confine myself to this cir cumstance, that were the Royal Mart iage Act re pealed,the marriage to which our attention has been so painfully called, might then be considered as a compulsory one under the provisions of that Act, and it might be dissolved without regard to those circumstances which must be considered in adju dicating questions with regard to the dissolution of other marriages, whilst, from the circumstances under which such a dissolution of tuatriage would take place, no future Sovereign could adduce it as a puecedent. I have merely, my Lords, briefly put this consideration as one s hich may arise out of a repeal of the Royal Marriage Act, but with out meaning myself any thing more than the sim ple repeal of the Act. It was necessary, howe ver, for me to say thus much, in order to relieve myself from all those reports which it seems have c i rcu lated out of doors tespecting my intentions, some of them I understand extremely absurd, and attributing to me motives which I could never for a moment entertain. The Bill 1 have the honour of presenting, and which 1 now move should be read a first time, is simply fur the repeal of the Royal Marriage Act ; it is my intention to move that it be printed, and when the pt iota are on the table, to move the second reading in the comic of about eight or nine days. The Bail of LlYERPOOL — Admitting, as I do, my Lords, the privilege of a Peer to present a Bill, 1 cannot admit that he has a right to its being read a fist time. I mention this, because cases may arise in which it may b e a b so l ute ly called for to oppose the first reading of a Bill. 1 cer tainly do not mean to oppose the first reading of this Bill, but I give my Noble Friend notice, that 1 shall . most decidedly oppose the further progress of this measure, conceiving myself called upon to oppose it by every consideration of sound policy and re gard for the Coestitution, Lord HOLLAND, in explanation, disclaimed the assumption of any right to have a Bill read the first time; the privilege be contended for, and whichwas undoubted, merely extended io pre senting a Bill. The Bill was read a first time.--Adjourned till Monday.. - HOUSE OF COMMONS. Mr. LEONARD (the Member for Ipswich) took the oaths and his teat. I'ETERSFIELD ELECTION. Lord FaatiClS OsBoRNE brooght up the Report of the Petersfield Election Committee, which stated, that the sitting Members, Lotd Hothant and Mr. J►►liffte, were duly elected ; but that the Petition complaining of their return did not ap pear to be frivolous and vexatious. BRIDPORT ELECTION COMMITTEE. On the motion of Mr. N. CALCRAFT, Loud Milton was excused front further attendance on thi, Committee, in which he was nominee fur one of the parties concerned, on account of the death of a near relation. BINHOI"S•CASTLE ELECTION COMMITTEE. The Report of this Committee was also brought up, which declared that William Holmes and Edward Rogers, Esquires, were duly elected. The Hon. D. Kinnaird and Mr. Wright were, therefore, of course excluded. Mr. SHAW presented Petitions for and against the Dublin Gas Light Bill. • NEWINGTON CHURCH BILL. Mr. H. SUNINER brought up the Report of the Committee on the Newington Church Bill; the Amendments to which werr read, and ordered to he engrossed. Mr. D. W. HARVEY presented three Petitions front dif ferent parts of the County of Essex, in farceur of the Cot. chester Quarter Sessions Bill. Sir 'l'. ACLAND presented a Petition, complaining of agri cultural distress, from some Landholders in the County Of Devon.—Orderedto be refeired to the Agricultural Com mittee. INSOLVEST DEBTORS' ZILE. Lord ALTHORICmovrd the Order of the Day for the third reading of the Insolvent Debtors Bill. In snoring that the Bill shoulo go through its last staige in that House, his Lordship said he was called upon to state, that he had heard ••of an evil, the existence of which called for theinterventton of some legi,lative act like the preseist Bill; but which had come to his knowledge too late for him to :mike a provision fur it in this =arum He understood that in this islands of (trerrrsey, .Tersey, and Alderney, there were several debtors orifintd in the prisons there, who not having it in their power S. derive any benefit fro►u the present Bill, were almost in a sate of starvation, no legal provis►on being in any wad• made be their subsistence. In the course of the preSent Session, e feared there would not be time to introduce any measure o remedy this evil ; but he should' make a point of bringing Urward something for that purpose. The Bill was then read a third time and passed. PENAL CODK. The ATTORNEY-GENER.►L rose to inquire whether an Honourable and Learned Gentleman (Sir J. Mackintosh) had any objection to postpone the second reading of the Bills re lative to the Criminal Laws. which stood on the ' 'rders of the Day for that day ? His object in wishing that the further pro gress of the measure should be postponed for the present was with a view to a private meeting between the Learned Gentle man and himself, by which much public discussion might be obviated. Sir J. MACKINTOSH was perfectly willing to agree to the postponement of these Bills. He concurred with the lion. awl Learned Gentleman in thinking that the course he pro posed to adopt would be the means of abridging in a consi derable degree the public discussion on the question. The Order of the Day having been read for the second reading of the Navigable Rivers Robbery Bill,—the Privately Stealing in Situps Bill,—the Dwelling House Robbery Bill. the Commutation of Punishment Bill,—the Capital Felonies Repeal Bill,—and the Forgeries Bill ; the second reading of the same was postpouLd till Wednesday neat. LICHFIELD.. Mr. LYTTLETON presented a Petition from the Bailiffs, Burgesses, Magistrates, and Freeholders of the City of Lich field, complaining of grievances. caused ; by the interference of Peers in the election of Members to serve for their City. The Petition recited many Acts which had been passed in vat ions reigns for the purpose of preventing undue influence in elections, but which, laudable as was their intention, had failed in the present case, in consequence of, their not apply ing. The Petitioners concluded by ;praying that the House would adopt such measures for the remedy of the evils they complained of as would effectually restore to the City of Lichfield its full, free and Cowstitutianal exercise of the Elective Franchise.—The Petition was ordered to lie on the table. Mr. WILLIAMS stated his intention of ag ain bringing in 0 Bill on the subject of thu Petition which had just been read, which he bad offered to the last Parliament.. INDIA COMPANY'S CORPS OF VOLUNTEERS. Lo►d BINNI \ G brought in a Bill to enable the East India Company to raise a C-irps of Volunteers. On the motion that the Bill be read a first time, Mr. M. A. TAYLOR asked if the Noble Lord meant to stateoto tl►e House any of the reasons which actuated the East India Company in wishing to raise a Corps of Volunteers at present ? Lord BINNING was afraid that it was not in his power to give a satisfactory answer to the question of the Honourable Gentleman; he could only state, that it was thought to be a very desirable thing that such a corps should he raised ; and as it was thought necessary to have a Bill for that purposo passed through Parliament, he bad undertaken to present that lii I. Mr. Nl. A. TAYLOR deprecated thy measure, as entailing an unnecessary expense upon the Company. Tim Bill was then rend a . first time. After some conversation, v in which Mr. Hume, Lord Binning, Mr. Creevey, Colonel Darr •r., and \l r. M A. Taylor took part, the second reading of the svai appointed fur Monday next. THE QUEEN. Lord CASTLEREAGH ruse for the purpose of moving, that the Order of the. Day be read relative to the papers attached to his Majesty's most gra cious Message, in order tltht the debate on that subject might be further postponed to Monday next. In making this motion his Lordship ex pressed his regret that it should be found neces sary to call upon the House for a further adjourn ment of this important discussion. The reason ho:s•ever,.for so doing, the House would be aware he was not in a situation to offer that day; but he could assure them that no further adjournment of the question would be asked, and if the lion. and Learned Gentleman opposite (Nit. Brougham) would allow him to Stly so, he mi z .;lit state that on Monday next, and not later, he should certainly be prepared to state to the House the result of the pending negociation.—(pear, hear !)—ln the mean time he most earnes►ly entreated the House to consider this delicate and important question as standing precisely in the same position as when the filet postponement was agreed upon.— (Hear.) Mr. TIERNEY observed, that it was satisfactory, from a regard to the delay of public business, to understand from the Noble Lord opposite, that no further adjournment would be moved. Mr. Bttouousst rose for the purpose of stating his entire concurrence in what had fallen from the Noble Lord as to the propriety of Making no fur ther delay in coining to the discussion on this im portant and delicate subject: At the same time he was anxious to impress upon the House, that this delay was involuntary on both sides. The most anxious wish had been shown by both parties to expedite the business.—(Hear.)---As far as he could calculate on the ordinary course of events, be saw no circumstance which was likely to occur to render any further adjournment necessary be yond Monday next. With •regatd to the last ob servation of the Noble Lord, he heartily joined in the hape that the House would keep their minds in the same state as on the occasion of the first adjournment.--(Hear.) EDU( ATION OF THE POOR. Mr. BROUGHAM rose a second time to postpone the notice of a motion he had for Tuesday next, relative to the Education of the Poor, to the Thursday following. r BANK FAILURES IN IRELAND. On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the Ex• CHeauER, certain Papers relative to the distress caused in the South of Ire Nod, from the failures of several Banks which bad lately taken place, were laid on the table. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER then ruse to move, that these Papers'be referred' to the con sideration of a Committee- of the whole House. In making this preparatory motion, he meant, when the Papers came to be consitlered, to pro pose some measure for the relief of Ireland in her present distresses, similar to one which had been adopted on former occasions for the relief of dif ferent parts of the kingdom. In consequence of the great and almost unexampled distresses which had accrued to a large proportion, of the inhabi tants of the South of Ireland, from numerous fail ures of Banks upon whose credit almost the whole of the circulating medium of the country rested, Government felt _it their, duty nov to delay any longer conning to Patliament for those remedies which Parliament alone could give. They kit themselves the more called upon to do so in eon• sequence of those measures which the Lord Lien tenantof .Ireland had,. upon his own responsibi lity, adopted in the;case. The House was await!, that in 18(16, a Bill was passed, atahuriziok; the issue of a considerable sum of money for the exe' cution of several public works in Ireland. A 4 1 'e/ portion of that sum still remained in the Bank 0, Ireland ; , and upon the present occasion , th e Lor d Lieutenant had authorised the issue of it to certain extent, by way of loan on good security( for the purpose of supporting that commercial uredit which was in danger of sufftsting, and bf .that meatus adding considerably to the distresses already existing. The proposition which be [ o ° Wa view to submit to Parliament was, that g ra" should be made to a oother extent for similar pa" poses, if it should be found to be neceasare• A t . the same time be wished the House to understan d / that with whatever reluctance they might (W et into a question of this kind, when once Govern' went thought it necessary, it was desirable to-" 11° measures without delay. He should propose 'ba g the amount to be granted for the relief ot the Irish on the present occasion be not less thae, half a million ; and that the Papers he referred to a Committee of the whole House to-morrow. Upon this question being put front 'he Chairs a general feeling was manifested in the House go into the Committee at that time. The CHANCELLOR of the FACOEQUER, in corn: pliance with the wishes of the House, propd' ea to go inro the Committee at present. Mr. TIERNEY OljeCted to go into 8 Stlbieet of so much importance at once, on such shot' notice. Time CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER ObSereedo OW the papers were not Volomititmi, but veil short ; besides which, the suiject was one of o°' toriety. The House having resolved itself into a Cone , mittee, The Papers were read, and appeared to be . a pr plications from individuals and certain hankers'. addresstd to the Lord Lieutenant of Irelaud, se ° sing forth the tuelaucholy 'situation of the con"; try, in consequence of the stoppage of 'r etro ; Banks in their respective neighbourhoods , Bit" calling on the Lord Lieutenant to lend such sums omit of rhe public money to Bunkers who real possessed the funds, but in the present et ate the circulating medium, had not the mean' ;tuning these into negotiable currency, as urtifs' l effectually re-animate the public credit, and.W store commerce. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER then r' and stated, that a 111111 of 150,0001. had granted ice 1806, for the purpose of telieving cog!' intsrcial distress, and for currying on certain poi buildings. Out of this sum there still reissue`it, the bands. of Government more than 100 ,00u 1 from which futoi the Lord Lieute. sat ut had granted loans as betore stated on the pr ese" e MeleilCholy OCCll , joit. it was undoubtedly th l , duty of the Lord Lieutenant to bring this soilj ec i under the consideration of Parliament as ea rlY. possible, in older to obtain ios sanction to ll° ov proceedieg ; for however melitorioas the intoi t ., er it Was certuirily in some. degree irregular. V, ll House was not ignorant of the caleoo.ous eve'' that had happened in the Snub of Ireland ; in the measure he now proposed lie thought th) would see a complete '.unhol y with that adte c in a similar case by Mr. Pitt in 1793, when a $":, cession of failures had concurred to render th comotry greatly distressed. Olt that Oce - asl o °l stint of 500,0001. had been granted ter the te ll % of lieland; and it would be remembered ap es " was a great distinction between the cireurostoll et , ° , of those times and the present ; ivbett, incleee e eat of the paper currency, there was a l' ef - 1, large metallic currency. At present he posed to' vote for the relief of Ireland 500,0001., giving a Parliamentary go r ,rateee the Bank of Ireland to ad oraace to that ant"' l P under the discretion of certain CoThmissionerseif be appointed by Government. Whatever tith c; restrictions Parliament might think it fit to sitIVO the issue of the money to, be hoped they 0° 11 , 4 sanction the general principle, if it were may ' L I the sake of showing the alarmed and stifle ° Irish that Parliament had not lost sight of theiT f , The Resolution was then pus Iron the C 1010; that whatever sum or slims of money had be do or might be advanced by the Bank of Irela n d , the present occasion, not exceeding 500, 0 1 : should be replaced at an interest of five per ce ° o Dr. LUSHINGTON expressed his concarre°4o with the sympathy of the Right Hon. Gentleloo for the prevent distresses of the Irish ; but l' e o, the same time warned the House not to lose sig o ( without adequate reason, of the great g ets pe principles by which the policy of wise 6"' e t it merit ought to be guided. He did not g ive the analogy drawn by the Right Hon. Ge' ll . o o man betweenahe present case and that in the I :0, of Mr. Pitt. The remedy on that occasion .ert applied to present Batiks nom faihng, which l ot s rendered in a state liable to do so from the of others ; which others too failed from a c oor which they could not foresee—a sadden war' d oi they bad not b. i t, shown what were the C 5- 0 01' of the failings in the present case, which h e 6 r iv believed to be all ooing to the misconduct 0 ! ) e; dividuals in carrying on a ”stetn of over-tra"? and if they made this grant they would solp. called upon to do the same for Glasgow , 0 0l cheater, and Leeds, in. opposition .to all too t h principles of political .economy by which ke ti finance should always he regtilated. He I° , ° upon the present grant therefore, in princire'4 encouraging this evil. His reason for not against the motion was, that all the onseV e Off of the present lailmes its I', eland fell Hpo n i vif poorer classes ; and, as carrying a remedy to suffeting, he should give a reluctant vole• Sir Geo. thee was favourable to the pNr oit te measure, because it would have the effec t ot hic ar porting the credit of many solid houses, %s r ve r 4 front the total abstraction of country 00 10 ', • thrown into the greatest dilemma. ° f tat Lord A. HAMILTON attributed t he who o des evil under which Ireland was at present lab° lata to the overgrown system of paper coffees/so foi4 present was an evil of a kind that ea° O gg remain con fi ned to one spot—its end " 4 ' 9 loca 1. biect Mr. M. A. TAYLoR conceived that t he 0 a be the measure was not to relieve the Baolt e T e rte gt , to relieve the whole country from the conv e fl i dil le • of the imprudence or misconduct of those Sol): dualduals.--Hear,(esr, bear !)-e-lie a greed with 11 4Asal Lord below in thinking that t h e evil ro t ot arose truly else system of paper curteocT