The Sun. — London, England, 1855-02-17 00:00:00

r onia. A T P A T?ii . TA 1* 1-Pwrrri - -. I" already given directions to Lord Raglan that when, from cir a4 thee,?, a - r'eginient was so reduced by explaining why the course followed in the other house of Parliament hail not been followed there. The T.OIZT) t' t • tier LbTOPOL, - - the mode oil 30th dt. ix Iteti an 11 , OF LORDS—(f.i:STERDA.Y.) 1 4 ° Caeliohuou took his seat on the woohia;-..k k e clo c k POW 34„,, , IS presented a petition from a branch of % .e " 15 i England Extension Society against any 'Stant to the College of Maynooth. '-i t 4rl of SLIA.FTESBIJRY prasented a petition e distillation-of spirits from grain. obli go 7 to his noblo and learned friend for giving him this pportunity. lie had directed inquiry to be made as to the course taken on former similar occasions, from the commencement of the last century. It was found that the thanks of the house had never been given to the individuals personally present, except to a member of that house whohad been commander-in-chief, and never except on a special vote directing it to be done. It wits the custom when thanks were voted in the other house that the resolution should be communicated by letter to all the persons to whom the thanks were given except th, se who were members of the house, and it was directed that to them the Speaker should communicate the thanks in person. But that was not the custom of their lordships' house, and, in4ependently of other objections, he had no authority from their lordship§ to communicate the thanks without special directions from their lordships. It had never been their custom to do so, and whether their lordships would - diverge from the ordinary custom it was not for him to say, but he had caused the matter to be looked into, and he was happy in the prosence of the noble earl (the Earl of Cardigan) to express to him and to their lordships that there was no blame to be attributed to him, because it was not cus tomary to do in their lordships' house what had been done in the other house of Parliament. _ ..... eeentry rather than to the depots in the auaiitearaucau, where it might disturb others, and give a false and exaggerated impression of the hardships of the campaign. With reference to the last point to which the noble earl adverted, he must say that he quite agreed with him in thinking that the officer of a regiment, or the captain of a company, was quite as much, and perhaps even more, ' entitled to credit and reward for taking care of the men under his charge than for leading them on in the field. (Hear.) Another point- to which the noble earl referred was the selec 'tion of Geueral Simpson for service in the East, to whose `claims and character he had hardly done justice. The noble tail "appeared to be under the same impression as that of the eary- of War to two pledges which were public in general, that General Simpson had been sent out to , weeks ago by the noble duke who lately take the command of one of the vacant divisions, but that was namely, that a clasp should be granted to .1 not the t ease, and c his services had been called into action for a 'ght,at Balaklava, and that he would com- different From all that he could learn of the state of the earmpery purpose.' * believed the general staff required to be in- First Lord of the Admiralty, and aster-ee spected from its head to the lowest member, and likewise -done, or was intended to be done, with ' that there ought to be an officer in our army in the situation men engaged in the battles in front of Se 2 of chief of the staff, to convey to the heads of departments express hi. hope that in a matter so inti- ' , the General, and whose duty it should be to see th h a e t e tt e s l e .e o e r f ders were properly, quickly, and implicitly carried with the feelings of the army, the present out. There was a corresponding office in existence in the . not neglect to do that which the late Go- French army, instituted in the time of Napoleon, and this was 'crmised. The n ble duke had also promised . the mission with which General Simpson had been charged. ld be f oun d e d on the principle of that of ' His duty as chief of the staff would be to take Lord Raglan's eustria, and that of St. Ceorge of. Prussia, orders, and convey them to the quartermaster-general and adjutant-general ; to inspect and review each of the staff de mon soldiers as well as the officers to obtain partmonts throughout all its ramifications, and to report to , ewards. He did hope that no time would Lord Raglan the fitness or unfitness of the various officers '.ng an order of such eminent utility, and composing those branches. From the knowledge he had of ;Hy for which was the more immediately General Simpson, as well as of the character of theoffi eel: ur troops were fighting by the side of the servin g in those departments and their capability of performing led en the day following a battle from the the duties devolving upon them, he felt convinced that the gallant general would make the departments of the Quarter ral the military decoration which rewarded master-General and Adjutant-General more efficient than, he lour. (Hear.) A short time before the was sorry to say, they appeared at present to be. He had ike of Newcastle) left office, he introduced great confidence in the zeal and capacity of General Simpson, ice an alteration of great importance, by who had assured him that, though ago had crept, upon him flagement of the animals engaged in the since he was engaged in the service to which the noble earl to army and its baggage from the commis-. -had so handsomely referred, yet he believed himself still ea- He trusted there would be no objection gable of rendering efficient service to his country. He begged the minute or memorandum by which the now to proceed with the duty of presenting to their lordships ;Muted. (Hear.) He wished to take this , e. bill, which he hoped to be able to carry through as speedily 'erting to two or three points of consider- as possible, for enabling her Majesty to limit the period of Their lordships must have observed that service still further in the army. Their lordships were aware i had been granted " for distinguished that the period of service was limited in 1847 to a period of in some cases very painful doubts had ten years by the act passed in that year. That act had not ;et to the correctness of the judgment been in operation for a sufficiently long time to enable them iromotions had been awarded; and in or- to judge of the effect of a short period of enlistment, but iu 0, and to prevent them arising in future, 'the present emergency, with the view of obtaining a class of that it would be very desirable that, men more capable of enduring the hardships of war than those ;he nature of the distinguished services who were now commonly enlisted, he proposed to introduce He knew very well that let the honesty a bill to enable her Majesty in Council to declare that she his exertions to discover merit and re- would accept the services of any man willing to enlist in her they might, his decision would not in all Majefey's service for, any period under ten years, taking those the public opinion of the army. But men at an age not under 24 nor above 32. This would enable , uld be made to - render the promotions them , to engage a class of men for a short period of service, ionours awarded, entirely in conformity who would be fit to undergo immediately, from the strength the army itself., In order to assist the - 'ef their constitution, UM hardships of the field, and who, on respect, and for other reasons, he would comp l e ti ng th e per i o d o f th e i r serv i ce, m i g ht not find them rernment that it would be desirable that selves tied to a profession they had no desire to continue iu. the example which had been set in the ; This would be taking a step in the right way for providing int war, both by the Emperor of Russia their army with proper recruits, inasmuch as to take young if France, and send out from time to time men of 18, and send them out to the Crimea within 6 months ild visit the army and return and report "after they had left their homes to represent the valour of the that they might become thoroughly iu- country, was to send them to a task for which they were :al state in which things were. (Hear.) totally unfit. Great complaints had been made—he was not t, he could not help adverting to the ex- in a,position to say whether with justice or not—against the 'pleasant feeling which had been created in commissariat department of the army in the East. It had promotions having been granted almost been said that that department had• been lax in obtaining ) the staff rather than to regimental officers. provisions and supplies, and in distributing them when oh- Yeas no doubt that officers of the staff were tamed, and that it had to a great extent failed in maintain esonal danger—certainly were less exposed ing the army in the condition which they had reason to ex in and discomfort—than the officers of the pest. He had, therefore,- determined to send out a commis- Jr hand, perhaps, their duties were of a -mission`to inquire -into, the whole 'of these matters, and he what more intellectual description. But had obtained for that commission the services of a gentleman Is performed by the officers of the line whose name he had but to mention to prove to their lord dto the very existence of an army, and of ships that he had endeavoured to find for it the man most ighest importance that the Government recommended by former services rendered in the East—Sir iy informed with respect to the manner in John Macneill. - That distinguished gentleman had under- Wormed. When troops in the field were taken immediately to leave the employment ho filled with tal fighting, the proportion of cases of sick- 'tsa much credit to himself and usefuness to this country in the whole number of officers and privates Persia, and to conduct a searching inquiry into all that had ,ty much the same. But there was no taken place. Ho had not the slightest doubt that Sir John in the Crimea the sickness and deaths Mieneill's knowledge of the sources.of supply would prove of es had infinitely exceeded the proportion the greatest use, and enable him to render the utmost possi nem to their whole number, according to the bra service on this commission. With respect to the hospi of sickness and deaths amongst the offi- tals, they bad taken great pains within these few days to in "as not aware of any reason which could'ac- form. hemselves as to the exact state of these establishments. ' l traordinary discrepancy, and if the Govern:. Theyhad already taken means to clear out the hospital at leer to the Crimea, as he had recom- Scutari, and place it on a more healthy footing, and he had the first subject to which his attention sent out instructions to remove from it the depot of troops He observed, - from the accounts received qua- tered there with the women and children, so that the . there was the greatest discrepancy in the barracks might be placed exclisively under the control of -tress in regiments placed in precisely simi- the medical department. Above all, he had put an end to That Was a subject requiring the ceesest that which struck him as the great source of many serious scarcely possible that a regiment should moral eVils—the sale of ardent spirits within its limits. They las some had been, in such a way that the had also established an hospital for convalescents at Smyrna, lornmissioned officers were practically ex- entirely under the -control of civil practitioners. They had le officers remained, without there being taken means also of providing opposite to Scutari hospital luty on the part of the commanding officer accommodation for 5,00 U men, in detached buildings or huts, rherever one regiment or one company ap- which would be placed under the charge of a staff of civil more free from sickness than others placed practitioners, for he regretted to say that the army medical ' ciroumstances, the conduct of the com- staff was scarcely able to supply the demands made upon it by the captain tp whose care of his men this the service. These, it would be admitted, were great and ins ieive the strongest marks of approbation portant i mprovemen t s, w hi c h s h ou ld b e carr i e d out w ith the e l i lt, and that he should receive promotion. least possible delay, for he was aware that there might bo elit k e _Peared, as in the case of the 63/1 Regiment, demands ma d e at any momen t f or h osp i ta l accommo d a - KeetZt: been almost destroyed without there tion for the sick and wounded, which, unless measures circumstances_ to account for it, it was were taken beforehand, 'it would be utterly impbssi fa°l-ernment to mark in the strongest man- bl e t o supp l y . H e h a d b een f orc ibl y s t ruc k b y th e tion of the officer in command. (Hear.) imminent chance of a great danger arising out of the ) Which he desired to advert was this. He state of the camp, occupied, as it had been, by a large army noble baron had appointed General Simp- stationary in it for some months. (Hear.) Although the ' n o of the divisions of the army of the Cri thought it right to state what he knew inconveniences thus created might not be perceived at pre sent, when things were locked iu the icy grasp of winter, yet the beginning of 1843, when Sir Charles the moment the sun began to warn them, fermentation would et ': Scinde, he (the Earl of Ellenboroughj take place, and the refuse of the camp would breed a pesti °us that, in consequence of his illness ,:trek, ' fence unless immediate measures were taken to prevent it. e „, , the army might be suddenly de- Accordingly, on Friday last, he had addressed despatches to 'y prevailing had also reason to fear that, ~„_ e ,„, eee f , ....4..a.,ki550p7• 4 1-x • g4it. formed a corps of Lord Racdan, dirertine hin, fo take Stellf4 ill 0nr.;71,3n44. , .. ~.4. 4 .1.. in the army, the commanu ' tad s totally inefficient. Under those en-- .cairen g ers, w hich would immediately proceed to perform his (th e Earl of Ellenborough's) duty to - . scavenger's work in the camp. (H ear .) I n O r d er to h ave (Ole Indian army the man whom ho confi- proper directions and superintendence in the performance of Jle for the command. He chose General the -work, he had determined to avail himself of the services Charles Napier afterwards told him that he of three gentlemen connected with the sanitary operations of acted a better man ; that he was a perfectly this great city, sending out one to the hospital at Scutari, it , who, under all circumstances, would do and two others to Balaklava and the camp, to take the su ebe done. Undoubtedly, 12 years, no futon- pervision of all sanitary arrangements, with the view of ob a man's life, had since elapsed, and he (the viating - the danger that would otherwise arise of the ravages Hi gh) should not have liked now to appoint of disease. Another point to which be wished to refer was itit,,,,, • Without having 'ascertained by a private and the teausport service of the army, to which his noble friend ', I I - "...r? with him that he felt that perfect confi- who preceded him in office had given his attention, as his right hon. friend at the head of the Admiralty had turned his - , 41 was such as to enable him to perform ~,x,Aties of his command. But, supposing attention to the seaservice. His right hon. friend had thonght 14 , t te7 kt r e interview was satisfactory, he did not it right, and he entirely concurred in the view, to establish e 4 enit e l i e lkiintment could have been made ; that a transport board, which during the war should be charged IThai n Ziog that the principal commands in the and which l 'e4r. - 44 the hands of officers of that advanced )should be in immediate communication with the Minister of with the transport of our army and other stores, tint War; so that no delay might occur in forwarding stores to the , after e xpressing his regret that the noble points where they were wanted. He might mention further el hue notice of the questions which he had that, as General Harry Jones had arrived out to take the to 'Nita concurred with him in thinking that mm dof the Engineer department, he had thou g ht it a hi s sdu aa ty to recall Sir John Burgoyne to the office he had u e . to wards were distributed to the army for - l ong filled with so much advantage to this country—that -4 the field or for their good conduct, the QS inspector - general of fortifications under t he Board of 3111.8 Were conferred the more weight would Ordnance. Another great subject, though of secondary c.. lierh—• And he therefore quite agreed with me moment to the condition of the army now ser vin g di thinking that no time should be lost in in the East, was that of the civil department of the mi litary,- , administration. To this Government was turning the sanction of the Government of which he that everything had been done and was doing in order to re iretie neglects and deficiencies that had occurred in the especially those relating to that new class raedy.t . Grimea, and could give satisfactory assurances that things British army to which reference had been W.ould go on better for the future, subject to no other casual suer true that much consideration must be ties than such as we had no control over, he could not promise II ," in which those honours were to be con to lay before their lordshipseiny statement as to the adminis- 1 4 4 we might derive the benefit of the ex tration of the civil branches of the army. Bat he hoped be- , °r ,eign countries into whose services they fore long to be able to do so, and to point out a method by ' e cu; but he could assure their lordships A uld r be lost in taking steps to enable the which, under the control of ore Minister, the civil aclminis ,e arm .and na to be rewarded tration of the army might be concentrated, whilst its discip y vy imme line maintained uuder the of the Command ''' scene where they took place. The next Chief.wai As seen as they obtained a control sufficien ey of transports, n- it to noble earl adverted was with respect to was the intentioirof Government to establish a communication ich the entire credit was due to the noble every week or ten days between Scutari and England, with ,', of Newcastle) who preceded him in the steam-boats fitted up as hospital ships, capableitof bringing 4 1 and who so far from having neglected, home 300, 400, or even 500 wounded or sick, who would be j ug attended to the interests of the army 1,71:1 4 .'" charge, had, as he (Lord Panmure) had • lie believe done the utmost to conduct the , \ \ltti l i k ti 4 d epartment efficiently, although, from various tar sooner restored to the service of the army, or at least to health, at home, than they could possibly be at the place wl , ere they now were ; for ho had been informed, both by 4 l'Qkti 1 medical gentlemen and others, that such was the state of the Ne t a ae ILY from the circumstance that we were hut- in those regions that. wounds scarcely ever healed kl/44'tt iv leet a w i e th a peace establishment—neither he nor "*ith'‘gual could have administered the affairs of e, 1 properly, and, fever supervening on them, were hardly cur +wee : Under these circumstances, it appeared to him that, li, 414 remained more success than he had done. Much, WithaView to saving the lives of the men, the most effectual *i t ': b e ' es e c , ained to do ; but what the noble duke had means that could be taken was at one 3 to remove to their k 4 4,1 gr ee 7',de the groundwork of taken' futtirep p r l o a c c e e ed in inf h s. e homes in this country the sick comfortsand wouned a so a t u h d at in t i h o e h y t 14, N t'; 44 l: 1 h ; improvementsestablishment co corps_ known as the might have the benefit of procurable . here,. recover health much morerapidly than if left in tho hospitals k et te t klit t corps," which supplied the place of the abroad. (Hear.) mi t c qtaelied to the Duke of Wellington's army. i NNe l he e °nicer of this corps, which had been formed The Earl ike‘e•Ztkelertious of the noble duke, embarked on Mon- noble . friend at last afforded some hope of mitigating, if not ~„ ‘,,-,4 4 , eat of war and the officers and men of the ~,At . ki ii quickly as Possible tall round him. He would N s averting, the great heads of our army disasters that seemed hanging over the in the East. He was apprehensive, how had not yet reached the maximum f the ~'l .o o't AO Charge, altogether independently of the corn- ev a e u r g , or tha a t nd w t e hat the amount of ' disease created by the cliffi ,epON,tire land transport of Lord Raglan's army. d the culties ' and privations endured throughout the winter would ',llly', te t l i‘ te t ? . which the noble earl adverted was as • d be as nothing compared to that caused by the sun's heat in ;'i4,,Pe e tekling out an officer to the Crimea, to see an . the coming spring. At present, the . hospiatals in the East 'll l ii teetil• actual state of the army. Well, it was his , WAN t he house that the Cabinet had already deter- . were in such a state that it was almost impossible that any e eV cote s ' „°lrt a n officer who' should report as to the ' sick our wounded 'man who entered one should recover; and l 'irtY "cee e " °, army, both physically and morally ; who only that morning he hid seen a letter stating that those in N't e e'ka,,.., t cate •eh Lordltaelan and be able to inform . Balaklava were nioro filthy thanthan ly grateful to his noble 11' 4 e k .l' with vn res respect to his' views, not only with re- . city of London. He h felt hd exceedingly to improve the medical and I hi ti 0t1e473r, but also p as te the campaign which was friend foi•tliesteps of arrangementsthe a army, and anticipated the greatest Vel e This duty would require for its execution an other benefit from the appointment of the commission to 'F el b e 4a uding—one in whom the ,greatest confi- possible. INle the re posed—and l ' e posed—and ' one between whom and the com- examine into what had taken place. 144 ,ill e a a ill IY jealousy could not arise. Having found The Earl of HARROWBY wished . to know , ,l if .h a o n u y r th o i f ng ß ez dat k i b t - e Person, he ord Panmure) hope an early to be done to improve the condition of he i Admiral Boxer SlNt e , ‘'ec - c . t „.., i ' l Possession ' of his report, and that by that kla,va. He feared that the appbintmen. of that would be re kel eo r t e'groent might be enabled to act on many points to the command at that . place was notone el e li t et ii , e ' si l i e i e ess than bad yet attended their efforts. He now assuring to the public mind, associated the name of that il lie "e jest of promotions which was a very difficult officer had beeu ve!th all the d . efects in as ile arrangements of L ee&) te e - eject for those to deal 1 with who were at home, the transport service at Scutari. te Zke e ti ctl e t . e , r°re, not perfectly aware of the services that . Lord PANMURE could state that whilst Admiral Boxer 'telt etqa ° e - Z ed- • He believed that the promotions which . •th immediate control had beeti appointed as the, officer wi . t 4l e ll ' Ne e- 'ad been for "distinguished services in the Edmund over the harbour, instructions bad -been giyen to Sir ~ti , 1. „-, Ite, , : l erely as the noble earl had said " for dis- Lyons, in conjunction with Lord Raglan, to take every step e 4 te'' ati e . e e es." Now, if Lord Raglan, or the com- possible to see that the existing confusion was brought into a e ne t tlieb e l'uty, recommended ended an officer ' for promotion state of something like order. Civil officers, accustomed . to N I tt P,tit at 'lerviees ill the field, he did not see hoW the e the business of customhouses, had also been sent out to assist t \ l 'it " 11 t ' "me could into further details with re a t e ee ete go in lauding and taking charge of the stores. h ,l NI; Iva ni ,: e s• It must be assumed that they were The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH wished to know if Sir'John ' 4 1, 1 t • i le lie alit the general commanding-in-chief in re- . Macneill would have authority to remove any obstructions tk ti k,:4lq ' l, rometion he thought it would e very and redress any grievance he might discover, or only to re keetki , 4 ; fe e &what dangerous for those who were vet an;portd as to their existence. It appeared to him that one great 44, 1 ,,e 0 ' th e m the secene of action to interfere with the dis- source of error and delay was to' be found in the system of . Baer't';i:„her e t e°flat uatider in rewarding such services. He accouuts, with its various checks and precautions. However e Vei i B ,,, e s o nfess that he was inclined to think that excellently these might work in time of peace, it was vain to VI 1 , 41 Ah e occasions been a diserep incy in the pro ex ect that they could be efficient in time of war, when cer e, li oil eei ene l eu those rewards had been allotted to the staff day and despatCh in the execution of orders were the great kl e i '%, t- O, lo e l z t !• 1 officersrespectively it was his deter- - requiiites. ttc, l 'ot vphi _loto the subject, particularly with resetto , requisites. 01 PANMURE said Sir John Macneill would not have 0 11, :kr.) 1 ;, - ,' I i had been been - given to regimental officers, powers either of dismissing pr o appointing persons, but he t le h li 'l t o t h'itit reference to what the noble earl had would be called upon to report both to Lord Raglan and the i't, 14,tree of the comparison he had drawn between the Government at home, and to suggest any changes which ho giV l .' that e ''' uten and the officers, he must say that he I might see would -be necesary in conducting the business of Vlef,e lee such a comparison would not tend to benefit the army. It would be for Lord Raglan to make those NY has thae - t w as quite sure the noble earl did not mean to changes on his own responsibility before th report reached NY li!' %t th '.° ofdeers had refused in any way to share the the hands of Government, but it would also be conveyed to e te 1 .:2 eh , chic h in ert ; for he believed there never was an them, and, whether Lord Raglan should deem any change Pi t V,,heth er ,ttaehed to it a . more devoted baud of offie 1 calledlor or not, it would be the duty of Government to c0n k4,71 ee l th e ~ it 'was in the field, in bearingin 1 •such changes should be made. privations, , t‘re,, .eider whether Ve te t o , •e-ees, or in whatever duty they had been The bill was then read a first time. ye he i t.o. reefo ree, th had h fall shared with their Oh 4 6 ' t ` l 'hiPB which cee 7 f h THE THANKS OF THE HOUSE. 0 tki eert ai ,the hard duties o t o camp hi Th fitted ols , could not account for thedisproportion The- LORD CHANCELLOR read a latter received that k kat la be tween the • ' and the offi- morning from Admiral Lyons, dated the 30th of January, ac -4a is ad Yet to be sickness of the then t el eti particular investigated, and the case of the 63d knowledging the vote of thanks, which was ordered to be Gl eete at it ittb oi'coted. Nv i r one to which his attention would be, catered (re the journals. Lord CAMPBELL said their lordships must have observed s ti . tl: L ti lat l ' l,,, f °r tho . m e or t a cou h l t d le a pt cones: h ive w i h i a c t h c oul d d ta h k a e v u e , that Ile thanks voted by their lordships to members f that Nl'a ( 3? liee'lraent, except to nd • k ess h w . 1 yours , hese' whe had distinguished Vieille lees in the army, had e e etie e ", ° cen Budd was that, eing very yo ~„ ,_ e : not been communicated to those illustrious persons in their me et -- " r i.th only called ,upon to rform very i fro ,_ a more laborious of which the officers places by his noble and learned friend on the woolsack. Ho ' be; a ' e n ob le SU d certai n extent, relieved, He had i gladly gave his an l e arned frie n d an opportunity of turned t r( to rder of 10t 11 ' bas been al R u ssian ap r ne e and Or THE ARM , ENEOROUGH wishecl .e a t Ler Lord BROUGHAM thought there could not be the slight est objection to depart from the ordinary course of practice, but for one obvious and powerful consideration—that it would tend to throw discredit on former members of that house who had received the thanks of the house otherwise than in person. Lord CAMPBELL did not see the force of what had fallen from his noble and learned friend. It was better for them to change the course that had been hitherto pursued, and to adopt the course followed in the other house of Parliament. He did not see how it could in the remotest degree be sup posed to reflect upon those who had received the thanks of the house when a different system prevailed. PURCHASERS' PROTECTION AGAINST JUDGMENTS BILL. This bill was read a recond time. FISHERIES (NORTH AMERICA) BILL. This bill was read a third time and passed. • Their lordships adjourned at twenty-five minutes to so ►en o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS—YESTIIRDAY. The SPEAKER took the chair shortly before four o'clock. i rfrof s pr' THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, FEBRUARY 17‘ 1855. was any danger in such course of proceeding as may affect the security of his seat in the House of Commons, it from their scientific labours. I am sure that medical men, whose time is daily occupied in all the details of the pro , fecsci, have not loiture enough to consider those ' , Teat sanitary urrang , :ments upon Which the health and col fort, and the lives, even, of v tny thusauds of insn must ine vitably upend. Lord Raglan has been authorised and instructed to send to Constantinople, and to procure from thence a corps of labourers, whose sole duty will be to cleanse the camp—to cleanse it from that accumulation of various thing s , which eve r y man , who knows anything of the habits of a camp, and of the calamities which have be fallen us in the Crimea, must know are perpetually accu mulating, and which, when the warm season comes in, might, if precautions were not taken, be attended with dis astrous results to the mea living in that camp. Then again, sir, many complaints have been made, and I am afraid not without some foundation, of a want of system in the com missariat department (loud cheers)—of mistakes and want of organization—(renewed cheers)—both as regards the 'supply and as regards the issue of things requisite for the army. (Cheers.) A commission is going out, at the head of which we have placed a vary distinguished man, well known for his abilities an d habits of organisation-.—l mean Sir John Macueill—once our minister at the court of Persia, and now employed in the poor-law department of this country. He will be the head of that commission, and he will have col leagues competent to act with him. That commission will go for the purpose of examining into all the defeats to be found in the commissariat magazines in the Levant, to set them all to rights, and to organise them on a more efficient basis. In the British army there has not hitherto existed an officer of that description who in foreign armies boars the title of the chief of the staff. The consequence has been that all the details of the quartermasier's and adju tant-general's departments have been brought to the com mander-in-chief, much to his inconvenience, and abstract ing his attention, perhaps from matters of more serious and greater' importance. Major-General Simpson, an officer of distinguished services, who is well known for his ser vices in the Peninsula at Waterloo, and in Indi a , i s go i ng out immediately as chief of the staff, to have the control and command of the quartermaster's and adjutant -general's departments, and with power to recommend to Lord Rag lan any change which he might think ought to be made in the different persons belonging to those departments ' • and Lord Raglan will no doubt think it his duty to adop t any recommendations which Major-General Simpson may make to him as to those matters. There has been also a complaint The SOLICITOR-GENEP.AL, .in reply, said that the question was a somewhat abstract one, but tie act of Parliament was directed against anything done cor• raptly, but certainly was never intended to apply to acts of bona fide charity such as those implied by the lion. member's question. and I believe lijtisi;;;:ihaithemedical establishment of the army has not hitherto furnished a sufficient supply of medical officers for the wants of the officers abroad. A hospital is gcing — ioT; erected at Varna, which will be placed entirely in the hands of civilian medical men, aid civilians will be entitled to ask and offer their services in any other part of the arrangements abroad in which their medical services may be wanted. Bat the Secretary for the War Department is going to remodel entirely the medical departments at home. I believe that that is capable of great [improvement, simplification, and probably of in creased efficiency, and . I am confident that the labours of my noble friend in that direction will not be less valuable than in other departments of the Administration which have been confided to his care. My noble friend also pro poses very shortly—l believe this evening —to present to the other house of Parliament a bill to enable her Majesty to enlist as soldiers men of a more ad vanced age ; I need not say more advanced, but somewhat older than the limit hitherto fixed, men still in the vigour of life, but older than the ordinary range of recruits ; and to enlist them for a shorter period than is assigned to the general enlistment of soldiers under the present arrange ments of the army. I have omitted to say that hitherto the commissariat abroad has been charged not simply with the supply and issue of provisions and all other things wanted for the service of the army, but has also been charged with providing the means of transporting those things. That has been the source of very great difficulty and inconve nience, and a separate department of laid transport has been established which will correspond in some degree with the ancient waggon train, only upon a larger scale, and it will be instructed immediately to set to work, and to col lect in Asia Minor the animals necessary for the service of the army, and no doubt sufficient means of transport will thereby be provided. During the short period that has elapsed since the formation of the Government these things have been done and are doing, and I should trust that the house will be disposed to see the effect which those different improvements and arrangements will produce. I am myself perfectly convinced that the results would be known in a much shorter period than would be sufficient to enable a committee even to make a report they could recommend to the attention of this house. Sir, so much as regards the arrangements for the prosecution of the war, tionglil should state that, in addition to those improvements of system, no efforts will be omitted to provide reinforcements for the army to enable it to take the field when the season shall admit with increased numbers and augmented efficiency— (cheers)—but similarly charged as we are with the interests of a great nation, I hare felt that it was our duty, not simply to look to the best means of carrying on with vigour an efficiency that war in which wo have unfortunately been compelled to engage, but that it is our duty also to make every effort which could honourably and safely be made for the purpose, if it were possible, of putting an end to the war by au adequate treaty of peace. (Hear.) We had learned that certain conditions to serve as a basis of negotiations which had been concerted between the Governments of England and France, had been concurred in by the Go vernment of Austria ; and having been presented to the Government of Russia, were informed that the Govern ment of Russia had acquiesced in them as principles upon which negotiations might be commenced. We deem it our duty, therefore, to. embrace the opportunity thus afforded us for at least ascertaining whether peace could now be obtained upon safe and honourable terms. Nego. tiations were to bo opened at Vienna ; but being desirous to give to these negotiations a most solemn, serious, and earnest appearance—being desirous that no man living should question whether we entered into them with a sin. cere desire to make peace, pretending that on our part it was merely a pretence to steal away time and to wait till the successes of war might bring to us a better condition in which we treat—we pressed upon my noble Mend, I will name him—Lord John Russell—to act as negotiator. ' (Cheers.) We felt convinced that when the negotiation was pl.‘ , .ed in the hands of a man so eminent in his own so --A in the estimo,- tie.-a -al Europe, se conversant with the debar)„ o f all the negotiations which had preceded, and so deeply 1-- buod with a feeling of the importance of the matter. , to be discussed—we felt convinced that if Lord John Russell would undertake the task we should have a security on the one hand that if peace were obtainable upon honourable terms, no failure arising from the want of judgment or knowledge on the part of our negotiator would prevent our obtaining it ; and on the other hand, we should feel that, however the affair might go, we had made every pos• sible effort to come to an honourable arrangement of the quarrel. My noble friend honourably consented to under take the task, and I must say that no man ever did him self a high honour than my noble friend did in accepting that under circumstances of such great—l will not say national—but European emergency. My &noble friend, I believe, will proceed' in the early part of next wet*. Of course, he will pass through Paris, to have a con fidential communication -with the French Government. He will also nass by Berlin, in order to communicate with the Government of Prussia ; and whatever delays those visits may interpose to his arrival at Vienna, I think the time he spends in these capitals will not be misplaced. Now, sir, if we should succeed in obtaining peace upon terms which would afford a security for the future against the recurrence of those disturbances of the peace of Europe which have led to the war in which we are engaged, we should think, sir, that our first acts in undertaking the Government will be as satisfactory to the country as they will be satisfactory to ourselves; but, sir, if we fail, why then I think that the country will feel that there is no alternative but to go on with the war—(cheers)—and I am convinced that this nation will then with greater zeal, with greater alacrity, if possible, than ever, give its sup port to a Government which, having made every possible attempt to obtain peace, should have failed in doing se, said is compelled to carry on the war for the attainment of that peace—a war which the sense and judgment of the country have pronounced to be virtually indispensable and necessary. (Cheers.) We shall in that case throw ourselves upon the generous spirit of Parliament and the country ; that generous spirit I am confident we shall not ask for in vain. (Hear, hear.) lam sure that in that state of things all our minor differences and mere party shades of distinc tion will vanish, that men of all sides will feel that they are Englishmen, and that they ought to support their coun try in its great emergencies. I am confident we shall show the noble and glorious spectacle that, as a free people and under a constitutional Government, there is a life, a spirit, an energy, a power of endurance, and a Vigour of action which are vainly to be sought for under despotic rule or under arbitrary sway. The noble lord concluded by mov ing that the Speaker do now leave the chair, and resumed his seat amid loud cheers. Mr. DISH AELI—Sir, I was under the impression that, upon this occasion, it would not have been necessary for me to refer to the conduct of individuals in transactions which preceded the formation of the Government of which the noble lord is the head ; but the noble lord has introduced into this discassion the name of a noble friend of mine in such a manner that I am sure the house will not think it unreasonable on my part if I make one or two remarks with reference to the introductory part of the address of the ta ble lord. It is true, as is well known, that the Earl of Derby was honoured hy the commands of her Majesty on a recent occasion to attempt to form an Administration to carry on the Government of the country. Under those circumstances Lord Derby was influenced by only ono con sideration, which was the expediency at the present mo ment of forming a strong Government for this country. Considering the emergency which now occupies all our at tention, and which demands our utmost energies, Lord Derby was of opinion that it was the duty of a statesman, consulted under those circumstances by his Sovereign, to advise her Majesty that every effort should be made in or der that her Majesty's affairs might be conducted by an Ad ministration that had the confidence, and more than the confidence, of Parliament and the country. Sir, it was with that view that Lord Derby opened Ur% communication with the noble lord ; but (I am quite sure unintentionally on the part of the noble lord) he has in my opinion conveyed an impressionto the house which would induce the house ra ther to misapprehend the motives by which Lord Derby was influenced under those circumstances and the object which he attempted to accomplish. It should be borne in mind by the house that this was not the first time under simi lar circumstances that Lord Derby had felt it his duty to open communications with the noble lord in order to form an Administration for her Majesty ; and I believe I may say that on previous occasions not far distant — about three years ago or more—there had passed those communications between my noble friend and the noble lord opposite which convinced my noble fiend (Lord Derby) that between himself and the noble lord there was no difference of opinion on all the gloat subjects of policy which should at the present time prevent their com ing together and uniting their energies in order to form that which I believe the Sovereign and the country alike desired---a strong and efficient Government. Sir, the noble lord ou that previous occasion had, with a frankness which was becoming enough, informed Lord Derby that it was quite impossible for a statesman of 'his eminence and experience to quit a body of men with whom he had beau previously acting, and suddenly to combine with- another body of public men, however pure, however patriotic, with out suffering a loss in his character, and without belly , sub ject to misconception in public opinion, which Wouhrmar, and justly mar, his opinions as a public man. It was on that occasion that Lord Palmerston stated to the Earl of Derby that it was impossible for him to join his (Lord Derby's) Cabinet alone, that ho had friends whom he should wish to accompany him, and the names of those friends were mentioned in conversation. Therefore, when my noble friend made this communication to the noble lord to assist him in his endeavours (which have been un successful) to form an Administration, my noble friend an ticipated the position in which the noble lord now stands, and as it were continuing the conversation of a preceding period, he said he was perfectly prepared to meet the diffi culties. Had the noble lord joined his Administration there would have been no difficulty, of course, to the elec .tion of the noble lord of the two right hon. gentlemen to whom ho has refered. But certainty it never could have that if the nol,L [)7l COLSitiQ a Ad nos in bid power to iein h. esa !t:.:, he I:beily to wake applicatian other right hon. geetleineu, stating at the sam e ti me th a t he was authorised by L o rd Derby to offer them seats in the Administration my noble friend was about to form ; and that he was thus to take two prizes, though he could have nothing himself to do with politics. (Hear, hear.) I must say, I think, if the noble lord, after having received the proposition of Lard Derby in a tone of encouraging friend liness, found upon deliberation, that he could not himself accept a place in his Cabinet, it would have been a frank and straightforward course upon the part of the noble lord to have informed Lord Derby of that result, in conse quence of which any negotiation with the friends who ad here to the noble lord must have failed. Sir, it was not my intention, for many reasons, to have adverted to these things. It is the noble lord who introduced the subject, and it is in vindication of the conduct of Lord Derby that I allude to the circumstances which the Chan cellor of the Exchequer has in a most marked manner mentioned in a communication to Lord Derby, aid which has been read in another place. Well, sir, the attempt of Lord Derby to form a strong Government has failed, not withstanding the encourag ement of his overtu res b y th e no ble lord. The attempt of ord Derby to form an administra tion which should meet the exigencies of the times, the feelings of the people, the wishes of the Throne, and the demands of the country has failed ; but let it not for a moment be supposed that Lord Derby refused at any time to form au administration with such power as he might possess, provided no other body of public men, except his followers, were ready to serve their Sovereign. Under no circumstances did Lord Derby refuse to form a Govern ment. The attempt of Lord Derby to form a strong Go vernment has failed. The attempt of the noble lord to form a Government has succeeded ; whether it be a strong Government—whether the noble lord has formed a Govern ment such as the country has a right to look for is a secret at present in the womb of time. (Hear.) The noble lord has certainly felt justified to enter into a panegyric on the great qualifications of his colleagues. They possess adminis trative abilities of a high character. They possess, accord ing to the noble lord, great political sagacity. (Laughter.) They are distinguished, according to the noble lord, by truly liberal opinions. Well, sir, there are gentlemen be low the gangway who are better judges of the value of the political opinions of the present Government, and on that subject I need not touch ; but at least I may form some opinion of the administrative ability of the noble lord's colleagues, on which he has dilated, by the advan tage of experience. (Hear, hear, and laughter.) One would have supposed, according to the noble lord, that the new administration which presents itself for the first time to-night to Parliament, consisted of a body of distinguished and experienced statesmen who had for some time been withdrawn from public affairs—wh o remote had been from the observation and from the criticism of their con temporaries and of the country. (Laughter.) When, how ever, eve recollect that that ministry which the noble lord ' says is, so distinguished for its administrative ability, for its political sagacity, consists of the same ministers who only a few days ago were, in the opinion of Parliament, remarkable for their deficiencies—(hear, ,hear)—were less conspicuous than any body of public men for their politi cal sag acity, I say I think it w a s an unfortunate introduc tion by the noble lord when he dilated on their qualifica tion")' and rendered it necessary for me, on an occasion like the present, to make any remark. I should have thought a solemn silence more becoming the occasion. If I had been the noble lord I would have dwelt more upon the future than upon the present, and I do not think he exercised a wise discretion when he recommends himself to the confidence of Parliament on the strength of the ad ministrative abilities of men who have been recently con demned for the want of thern--(Hear)--and whose politi cal sagacity has brought upon the country a great and ac knowledged calamity. Well, sir, what was all this a pre face to on the part of the noble lord ?—his allusion to the failure of some, to the success of others, in forming a Go vernment—that dwelling on the distinguished personal qualifications of his colleagues aid companions—what was all this a preface to? The noble lord does not appear to me to have been happy in the first address which he has made in this house which he is now to manage, for he has comps.red the House of Commons to Wet Tyler. (Laugh ter.) This seems a strange comparison for one who ought to be as proud of being leader of this house as of being the chief :in the councils of his sovereign. But the noble lord says you have succeeded in your sedition. Now the time is come when you are to return to your allegiance, and re pose renewed and removed confidence in the new Ministers of the Crown—who are the old ministers whom you have recently condemned. What a strange string of reasons has the noble lord given as his arguments why the house shank: rescind a resolution which it had arrived after so Prolona-ed a debate and in such a full assembly. The noble lord gives us a catalogue of what he describes as improve ments in the administration which the newly constructed Cabinet has decided upon. Of course, it will be much more easy for us to gauge the merits of the measures of the near Cabinet, when wehave them more in detail, and have had au opportautty of examining a little into the matured ar raugements. But admit for argument's sake that they are all improvements, necessary improvements, urgent im provements, inestimable improvements. What a satire on the late Government are these improvements ! (Hear, hear, and laughter from the Opposition.) If these improve ments are necessary, and of so urgent and inestimable a character—if these improvements are to be the means of extricating us from our difficulties, what becomes of the predecessors of the Cabinet—(hear, hear) —of those men who, for so long a period, not only neglected to fulfil these necessary duties, but to the last hour of their existence ap pealed to the house to say that these charges were net necessary, and that there were no circumstances which demanded any improvement or any investigation—(hear, hear, no, no, and counter cheers)—and who declared that the desire on the part of the House of Commons to inquire into the causes of the mismanagement--which is now not only - confessed, but is to be remedied—was a vote of want of confidence in the Administration, and condemnatory of their character as public men ? Why, sir, let the House of Commons well consider what is asked to do. One of the finest armies which England ever sent forth myste iiously disc oars • disaarare not the sword of the „ es vrt , unz u uduutu, uiboo ageau, Pallt vau quish. It disappears by means so mysterious that a most experienced statesman, with all the advantage of the into- Her secrets of the Cabinet, confessed anti announced in this house that he could not penetrate or understand the causes of the mystery. The House of Commons must recollect this—that the position in which it is placed is not that of a public calamity which suddenly urges and stimulates some independent member from feelings of patriotism—al though mot, perhaps, of prudence—to call for an inqniry, and to re-echo the voice of an anxious nation. Sir, the gravest Minister of the Crown, the First Minister of the Crown in the House of Commons—a man of whom of all parties the house is most proud, who had pre viously been Prime Minister of England for a long period of years—a man whose qualifications, whose sa gacity, whose wisdom, whose statesmanlike qualities have been justly eulogised by the First Minister on the Trea sury bench—a man who, although he had unintentionally destroyed his late colleagues, had already been employed by them on an august mission—this eminent person came down to Parliament, and told us, with all the advantage of official experience, that he could not penetrate into the mystery of this nationai calamity, and that he thought an inquiry ought to be granted._ :Supported by this autho rity, and re-echoing the universal opinion of the people of Great Britain, the House of Commons—not iu haste, but after a debate which occupied at least a period of many days, with unusual numbers, with members hastening from all parts of the country, and by a majority almost unparalleled in the records of Parliament— declared that an inquiry was not only the duty of Ministers, whoever they might be, but that an inquiry by a committee of the House of Commons was the only mode by which the im provements that might be necessary could be indicated. Now, we are told to-night that the House of Commons is to stultify itself—that this House of Commons, which only ten days ago, under circumstances of such unmis takeable conviction, sanctioned by the high authority of the leader of the House of Commons, the First Minister of the Crown in the house—that this House of Commons which arrived at this solemn decision is to recede from the groiend it so triumphantly occupies, and is to rescind a re solution thus solemnly arrived at, and, if they consent to do so, are to inflict a blow on its reputation and public in fluence which a long period of years will, in my mind, never counteract. What is the strange argument of the noble lord and his reburnished colleagues to induce the House of Commons to do this ? The noble lord has shown that. great improvements are necessary, and that Govern ment is prepared to admit the necessity of remedying the present state of affairs. Well, sir, if these are the sick fruits which we have already obtained, what may we not obtain from the inquiry? I do not know what hononrtblo gentlemen may choose to do on this subjtect, but I know what is the course which I shall take;. (Hear.) I shall endeavour to support in every way the decision of the house—(hear, hear)—and what I feel. is the strong and wholesome opinion of the country. (Hew:, hear.) I am for inquiry, and I am for a parliamen tavy inquiry, into the condition of the army before Sebas topol, and into the branches of the Administration which should have prevented the lamentable condition of the tro ape. Sir, we hardly know what is the consequence of minr adhering to the solemn resolution at which we have ali oady arrived ; but I cannot suppose that the noble lord is about to commence his carom- as First Minister by attiempting to control and menace the opinion of Perlis eat rut, which has been given in so influential a manner. All I can say is, that if so, I am ready to face my consti tu nuts and vindicate my conduct as their representative. I r ;hall never seek a more favourable opportunity of so ing than when there was an unparalleled disaster falling on. the country, and when one of the greatest blows which he 4; ever been experienced by Englishmen has occurred. When following the advice of a great Minister of State, although he sat on an opposite bench, I support such a re. elution of the House of Commons. The noble lord has tlaitered--I will not say held out hopes to the country tie it there may boa release, which has so often been pro mised us, but has so often avoided its accomplishment. I ne ed. not assure the noble lord on the possibility of circuua st ances at which we shall all rejoice, that as far as gentle men who sit on this side of the house are concerned, be ca 'use we feel that no one who occupies-the position of the noble lord will ever consent to terms of peace which are un :worthy of the occasion—which would not justify our ha wing had recourse to arms. The noble lord has stated that if these attempts to obtain peace shall fail, he will ap Peal with confidence to the support of the house, and to thu country. The noble lord will not appeal in vain, but he can receive no support from this side of the house for fine prosecution of the war which his predecessors have not alriestly received ; for never was there an Administration wt Lich received from an Opposition so cordial a support—a en p port so sincere and hearty as that which was received by Li ird Aberdeen's Ministry from the Opposition during the ti , ere he was inoflice. Never was there a Ministry which en tared into a war with such advantages as the late Mini st( irs and their identical representatives— a unanimous peo pl. I, a unanimous Parliament, magnificent troops and a rgaiiticent fleet, and, as we know, not only a cordial, but a 1 Powerful ally. How men with such advantages could ha ye reslised such disasters—(hear, hear)—how on such vas stage ground they could have so mismanaged the affairs of the country that with a unanimous Parliament they ha ,re yet contrived by the aid of their own political sup po eters to have been overcome by a crushing majority, the fu tune historian only will be able to explain. But, sir, let us on this occasion—although we have the same indivi du cis in a new form now regulating the affairs of the co Lustre , — let us hope that those men, who a fortnight ago wt 3 unparalleled blunderers, may now, fortunately, be tr; saisformed into expert statesmen ; let us hope that those m. set who, with unprecedented resources, realised either no re sults, or only disasters, may now—a fortnight having el spsed—open new and unexpected scenes of success, of pr osperity, and of 'triumph ; and let me assure them that, as long as they attempt to do their duty in conducting thi 1 .11 war, they may reckon, so far as the Opposition is con cer nod, on the same support which their - identical prede- CCS. is )rs received. (Hear, hear.) 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Lord PALMERSTON took the oaths and his seat on his re-election for Tiverton. The noble lord was introduced Hayter and Mr.. Granville Berkeley. _ . Mr. S. EIfIII3IIRT took the oaths and his seat on his re-election for South Wilts. The right hon. gentleman was introduced by Lord Mulgrave and Mr. Bouverie. Mr. SAMSON RICARDO took the oaths and his seat for Windsor. NEW WRIT. A now writ was ordered for Cardigan in the room of Mr. Pryse Lowden, deceased. PRIVATE BILLS. On the motion of Mr. BROTHERTON leave was given to bring in several private bills. The following bills were read a second time and ordered to be committed :—Airdrie Rural District Police ; Ashton-undsr-Lyne Gas and Water ; Basing stoke, Stockbridge, and Lobcomb Corner Roads ; Bir mingham Water ; Bogner Railway ; Cambridge Uni versity and Town Water ; Cardiff Improvement ; Charlbury, Witney, &e., Road ; Colchester Stour Valley, Sudbury, and Halstead Railway ; Dun dalk and Enniskillen Railway ; Folkestone Im provement ; Folkestone Water • Glasgow Water ; Glos sop Gas ; Gomersal and Dewsbury Road ; Grand Junc tion Water ; Great Northern Railway (Increase of Capital) ' • Guildford and Farnham Road ; Heywood Water ; Kilmarnock Gas ; Kingston-upon-Hull, Hessle, and Ferriby Road ; Kingston-upon-Thames Improvement ; Leominster and Ledbury Road ; Lightpill and Birdlip Road ; London and Blackwall Railway ; London and North We-tern and Lancashire and Yorkshire Railways; Newcastle-upon-Tyne Improvements ; Newport Gas ; Newtown and Oswestry Railway; North Yorkshire and Cleveland Railway ; Osset Gas ; Peterborough and Wellingborough Road ; Price's Patent Candle Company ; Royal Conical Flour Mill Company ; South Wales Mineral Railway ; South Wales Railway Consolidation ; Southwark and Vauxhall Water ; Stourbridge Gas ; Siruud, Cainscross, and Minchin hanpton Road ; Surbiton Improvement ; Surrey Gas ; Sunderlaud Dock ; Torquay, Tor, and Saint Mary Church Gas ; Stalybridge Gas ; West Bromwich Im provement ; Woolwich Consumers Protective Gas. ORDNANCE ESTIMATES. Mr. WILSON brought up the Ordnance Estimates, which were ordered to lie on the table. PETITIONS. Mr. SCHOLEFIELD presented a petition from Bir mingham, praying for the repeal of the Newspaper Stamp. Mr. MACGREGOR presented a petition from Glas gow, praying for the vigorous prosecution of the war. Mr. H. BERKLEY presented a similar petition from Bristol, and praying for the re-establishment of the kingdom of Poland ' • also a petition from Bristol, pray ing for the repeal of the new Beer Act. Mr. HORSFALL presented a petition from the Liverpool Chamber of Commerce in favour of the Regis tration of Bills of Exchange Bill. Sir H. HALFO RD presented a large number of peti tions from Leicestershire and Derbyshire, praying the house to pass a bill to prevent the stoppage of wages in the hosiery trade. M. M C-HRSON nresented a petition from Ilie4 Co, poration' of Manchester,- praying for the repeal of local charges on shipping. ARMY IN THE CRIMEA.—SIR E. LYONS. The SPEAKER, acquainted the house that he bad re ceived the following letters from Sir Edmund Ljens ac knowledging the vote of thanks of the house : _ _ " Agamemnon, off Sebastopol, Jan. 30. " Sir, —Having succeeded Vice-Admiral Deadas in the command of this station, the honour has devolved upon me of communicating to Rear-Admiral the Hen. Montagu Stepford, and to the several captains, officers, seamen, and marines in her Majesty's fleet in the Black Sea the unani mous expression of the thanks and approbation of the House of Commons for the services rendered by them dur ing the present war, and of communicating to them also the unanimous acknowledgments of the distinguished va lourgle a a n nAl t c h o e n d d u e c e t p of s y t k m o p s R e t y h o felth a v f e o r perished in relatives the t r a u n g d friends. All are deeply impressed with the honour con ferred upon them. All are encouraged in the performance , of their duty t o their Queen and country, and the seamen I and marines mor e so, believe, than on any former occa sion, for the blessinc, of education enables them to appre ciate better than their predecessorstheth anksandappro bition of Parliament. " I have the honour to b e , sir, with the highest respect and regard, your most obedient and humble servant, " Rear-Admi ra l an d Commander-in-Chief." Agawam stool Jan " n E. ,LYONS, off Sebastopol, 30. " Sir,--I have the honour to tran sm it too y herewith . a letter which I have received from Vice-Ad ma i 1 Brunt, who has succeeded Admiral Hamelin in the command r of the French fleet, showir , how hi g hl y th e French navy feel honoured and gratified by the thank s o f P arliament. "I have the honour to be, sir, with much respect and regard, your most obedient and humble servant, " E. LYONS, " Rear-Admiral and Commander-in-Chief. " Vaisseau le Montebello, le 21 Janvier, 1855. " Monsieur l'Amiral, — Je transmets anjourd'hui meals aux equip tges de l'Escadre de is Mediterranee lea re merciements publics qui leur out 4te votes par lee deux Chamblee Nlu Parliament d'Angleterre. C'est un banneur insigne et rare qui leur est deem& Je l'accepte pour eux et pour le digee chef qui lee commandait au debut de cette grande expedition, comma une leurs services, comme hi gage d' precieuse recompense de une alliance plus intime encore, et comme l'heureux augure de nouveaux succes. " Veuillez agreer, Monsieur l' Amiral, l'assurance de ma haute consideration, " BRUAT, " Le Vice-Amiral, Commandant en Chef l'Escadre ds la Moditerranee. ",.' To Rear-Admiral Sir Edmund, Lyons, Bart., G.C.8., Commander-in-Chief, &,c."' SUPPLY OF COFFEE IN THE CRIMEA. Mr. BALL gave notice that on Monday next he should ask the boo. member the Minister for War in that house, whether the conduct of the person or persons responsible for having issued unroasted coffee to the troops in the Crimea had been followed by censure or dismissal. SIR JAMES BROOKE. Mr. DRUMMOND gave notice that on an early day he should ask the First Lord of the Treasury whether he had any objection to lay upon the table of the house the report of the Commissioner appointed to try Sir James Brooke for acts for which he had previously re ceived the approbation of the Government, and had been rewarded by the Crown. THE CONDUCT OF THE WAR. Mr. ROEBUCK gave notice that on Thursday next he should more the names of the committee for inquiring into the conduct of the war in the Crimea, on which the house had already deteimined. He would put the names of the hon. gentlemen he should propose on the votes of to•night. (Hear.) TFIE CASE OF SERJEANT SULLIVAN. Mr. FRENCH wished to ask the Government if there were any reasons why Serjeant Sullivan;;;iocar ried the colours of the 39th at the Alma, and had the singular honour of being specially reported by the Gene ral in command of his division to Lord Raglan hafi.. not been promoted ? Lord PALMERSTON, in reply, said that a special power had been Oven to Lord Raglan to recommend for a commission a non-commissioned officer from each regiment who was deserving of promotion. With re gard to the regiment to which Serjeant Sullivan be longed, Lord Raglan had recommended the Serjeant- Major for promotion, and as ono non-commissioned officer in that regiment had therefore been elevated, no commission could be given to any other non-cornnais- sioned officer. Mr. LAYARD inquired whether the noble lord had any objection to lay on the table the despatch of General Evans, in which Serjeant Sullivan's name was so hon ourably mentioned ? (Hear, hear.) Lord PALMERSTON said he apprehended there could be no objection to that, but he would let the hon. member know on Monday. BRIBERY AT ELECTIONS. Colonel SIBTHORP asked the law officers of the Crown, whether, in consequence of the act passed 10th Avg., 1854, e. 102, anno decimo septimo et octavo Vic torix Regime, intituled, "An Act to consolidate and amend the laws relating to bribery, treating, and undue influence at elections of members of Parliament," there was any prohibition to a candidate, who had hitherto exer cised what he did consider a duty, by giving certain assist ance or relief to persons resident in or near the city or'borough which he represented, by the distribution of coals and other articles of relief and assistance ; though amongst these individuals so assisted and relieved there are and may be some persons, more or less in number, who have voted for, and may possibly continue to vote for, such candidate or representative; and whether there THE PERSEVERANCE. Admiral WALCOTT asked the First Naval Lord what was the cause of the accident which befel the Per , Peverance ? Admiral BERKELEY said the subject was under investigation ; but, in the meanwhile, he could state that the vessel was not much injured. THE IRISH AhLITIA, In reply to Mr. H. HERBERT, Sir J. YOUNG stated that steps had already been taken for supplying the Irish militia with every descrip tion of clothing. MINISTERIAL EXPLANATIONS. On the motion that the Speaker do new leave the chair, Lord PALMERSTON rose and said—ln rising, sir, to move that you do now leave the chair, I feel it is generally expected that a person who fills for the first time the situa tion I have the honour to hold, especially under circum stances such as those which preceded my appointment, should state very shortly to the house what led to his hold ing the office he holds. Sir, that which I have to state will be very brief, because it has been anticipated by statements whieh have beau made by a noble lord in an other place, and lay a statement made by my noble friend in this house. It has been already stated, and correctly stated, by the Earl of Derby, that when he was com manded by her Majesty to form a Government, he did me the honour to come to me and to propose to me that I should belong to the Government he was about to form. He at the same time expressed a wish that I should communicate the same desire on his part to my right hon. friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and to my right hon. friend who now holds the position of Secretary for the Colonies. I . stated, as was correctly stated by that noble lord, that those habits of long personal friendship which co-operation in office bad engendered, and the high esteem which I felt for his personal character and statesmanlike habits, would render me elusions to co-operate with him in a public emergency, when it was of the utmost national importance that a Government should be formed. I said, however, that I could give him no answer till I had had an opper tuuity of communicating with friends of mine; but that one thing I was prepared to say, which was this, that in the present state of our foreign relations I should be un willing to belong to any Government in which the conduct of our foreign affairs did not continue in the hands of my noble friend the Earl of Clarendon—(Ministerial cheers) — who had shown great ability and success in the manage ment of the department confided to his care. The com munication, as stated by Lerd Derby, was made a little before two o'clock. I communicated as soon as I could with my right hon. friends; I communicated also with that noble friend of mine upon whose judgment I place the most implicit reliance, and whose opinion would guide me in every important transaction of my life--I mean the Marquis of Lansdowne—(hear, hear)—and the resu lt was that I wrote to the noble lord to say that I did not think that by accepting the proposal he had done me the honour to make me I could give to his Government that strength he was pleased to think my acceptance of office would con fer. It was remarked as somewhat unexplained, that that intention of mine was quoted by my right hon. friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer in his answer given at a later hour to Lord Derby. The fact is, that that opinion of mine was formed upon a full consideration, and communicated to say right hon. friend before he wrote in reply to the offer that was made to him also, declining to join the Ad ministration. Sir, that endeavour made, her Majesty was pleased to call upon my noble friend the member for the city of London, and to charge him with the task of forming an Administration. My noble friend did me the honour, immediately after that command was given, to come to rete and ask me to accord my assistance. Sir, my great personal regard and esteem for my noble friend, the perfect similarity of political opinions which existed be tween us, led me at once, and without hesitation, to say that, feeling impressed with the full importance of the crisis in 'which we stood, any assistance it was in my power to live him should without any hesitation be given —(Ministorial cheering)—and if he had succeeded in term ing an Administration, I should have felt the greatest alacrity in giving him any assistance it might be in my power to render. Sir, that attempt did not succeed, and it was the pleasure of her Majesty then to commission nee to endeavour to form a Government, if I thought I could succeed in submitting to her a list of Administration likely to command the confidence of Parliament, and ade quately to carry en the public service of the State. Sir, received that command about six o'clock on the Sunday evening, and I was fortunate enough, to be able, on the Tuesday afternoon, to report to her Ma jesty that I had obtained the assistance of such col leagues as I thought her Majesty might fairly approve. as answering the description she had been pleased to give in the commands she gave me to make the attempt. Sir, the Government then was formed, and I trust that that Government contains snfficient administrative ability, sufficient political sagacity, sufficient liberal principles, sufficient patriotism and determination to omit no effort to fulfil the duties which each member has undertaken, and to jnstiify me in appealing to this house, to Parlia ment, and to the country, for such support as men may be considered entitled to receive who, in a period of great Tolliggo a a l ele:p a o t virliblilVlM4Volvt a n i ngs et a r 2 in ?; l .;? the business of the country. • (Hear, and Minfiterial cheers.) There is one great department which will continue to enjoy the ability, the experience, and success of my noble friend the Earl of Clarendon. ire have had the good fortune to obtain for the conduct of the War Department the services of noble friend Lord Panmure, who combines all the energy, the firmness, and perseverance which are required for the conduct of that important branch of the public service in the present emergency. I am happy also to have the assistance of my right hon. friend the Chan cellor of the Exchequer in the conduct of that most im portant branch of tie public service--{hear) — and my right hon. friend who sits by me, and who is going imme diately to propose the estimates for the naval service, needs no proaegyrie on ray part as to the great ability with which he has discharged the duties of the department en trusted to his care. Sir, we begin then the task which it has been the pleasure of her Majesty to confide to our care. In undertaking that task it is useless to dissemble that there is one difficulty which immeclistely meets us , and wmhicnh,, I may say, stares us in the f ac e ; that difficulty, I mean, 'which arises from the notice of my hon. and learned friend has given for Thursday next. Sir, I will not at tempt to disguise the fact that I feel the sagas objections to the appointment of the committee of which he has given notice whieh I had the honour of stating when the sub ject was before the house on a recent occasion. My opi nion is, that such a committee would, in its notion, not be in accordance with the true and just principles of the constitution ; and that for the effectual accomplishment its purpo so it would not be an efficient instrument. (Hear, h ea r.) Sir, I should hope that this house when it came agree tloth calmly to reflect upon the principl es involved in the ap pointment, of such a committee -_Wh en it came calmly to reflect upon the cumbrous machine and the tardy result to suspend the appointment of the which would be to be expected from its action—might be 'hon. and learned friend proposes to inclined,vnea committeerm But, et a i t as whichil feels l i i f r e i , v n e l m t n e yt i that the only ground upon which t e o B 0 thg postpone w h the ic, t the appoint mentcona of that committee would be the belief that the Go s tpheericoledfence of that monarch of mittee poin teed at—which the committee appointed might, they could be disposedsttoo recommend to be done. And e a, t s w h e e a e l a i ( r l e of long () a la b e r Eng land who, in meeting a body of his discontented subjects, and finding; that they bad lost th e i r l eader, ro d e b o ld ly up to them, as al exclaimed, " You have lost your leader, my friends ; I: will be your leader," se I should say to the House o f cl o mmons, if they will agree not to appoint this committee,- —(laughter and counter cheering)—the Govern ment will , be their committee—(ironical cheers and counter eheers)-3..1 id we shall then see whether, by the 'results of ' our energia )s and labours, You will be satisfied with the in quiries anti. improvements we shall make, or whether you will then -I; kink fit , to appoint a more formal Parliamentary institution . Now, sir, as for the objects of that commit , Le, they a oust have been the nuisances that exist at home and abrouil. I imagine, sir, that the object the majority of those Iv ho voted for that committee had in view was to compel the, Government to make certain Administrative changes in our military departments at home, aud, by in quiries an. d improvements abroad, to restore order and regularity in mono services which, unfortunately, have I been mark A by circumstances of an unfortunate character in the:Cr inma and in the East. Now, sir, that which I propose to do I will shortly sketch out in detail, but simply as indicating the inte...tions which tho Government con template ci truing into execution, Sir, the house must be aware the I I have net felt it my duty to recommend to her Majesty to a ppoint a Secretary -at-War. The reason why I have so abstained from doing so is that I think an amalgams. tion can be made between the offices of Secretary at-War and that of the Secretary for the War Department, which will greatly contribute to the efficiency and sins plieity of the public service. My opinion is, that in regard to the Ordnance grea t improvements may be made (hear, hear) ; theit, speaking generally, but without of course pledging zayse lf to specific details, the discipline o f the artillery and. of, the engineers maybe tr ansferred to the Commander-in-Chief, like the discipline of the rest of the army—(hoar)—and that the civil department of the Ord nance ma.y be placed under the superintendence and con trol of the Secretary for the 'War Department. What may be the collateral arrangements which, w h en matters are examincei into detail, it may be thought best to make, I cannot ; presume to say ; but that is the general outline, and I do not think there can be any very material difficulty in carrying it into execution. My right hon. friend the Secretary for the Admiralty has established a board to superin tend the transport service at sea, a service of the ut most importance, and one which has grown into the cha racter of a great national institution--a service upon which our alliance with France has made it necessary to call for great and increased efforts for the transport and conveyance of French troons- as well as English troops. And just it is that such ehou'ld be the case. We are engaged in warlike operatiortit in conjunction with France as an ally. We have not the r eosins of contributing the same amount of soldiers and men for the prosecittion of the war which the larger military establishments of France enable her to send into the field.. It is but fair, then, that we should bear our share of the e:tpenses of the war, by affording to France those naval is he of carrying her troops which her less exten sive nasal establishments do not enable her to supply. These arr an,gements involve s much more complicated mass of details than can be well carried on by that limited de partment over which my right hon. friend presides, and he has theref ore established a separate board for the purpose, and lam convinced that that board will tend both to the increased econerny and the increased efficiency of that departmen of of the public service. Sir, well-founded com plaints ha ye been made on the subject of the accommoda tion provi led for our sick in the hospitals in the Crimea and elsear here. Sir, we are going to send out .a commis sion comp osed of civilians —men not swayed by the bias of profess ional habits, nor yet military men ; but seen who have been . accustomed to deal with sanitary questions not only at home, but one of them has been employed upon a similar in rvice in the West Indies. We are going to send those than ets civilians out with ample power to examine the sanitary t .ondition of the hospitals, of the camp, and of the ships. (E fear, hear.) There was one sent out me some tame ago, but t here are throe persons now going out simplyand solely for the purpose of reviewing those sanitary arrange ments. e(Hear, hear.) I anticipate the greatest advantage success to the factions conduct of those who sit opposite to them, but to the recognition by the country of their total volt of the qualitic3 wh;•: , ••. • , u d winch the country at Thin moment 1, iu need,of. . RICH vose, amidsl loud calls for Mr. Roebuck. He begged to remind the right hon. gentleman who hail just sat down that the persons whom he had called unparalleled blunderers were about to be put by Lord Derby over his (Mr. Disraeli's) head. He was one of those who had voted for the inquiry, for he was determined that the inquiry should then have taken place ; but it must be remembered that he had said that, if an inquiry could be instituted which would elicit the truth, and which would be a substi tute for what every one knew to be the cumbrous ma chinery of the House of Commons, he would not insist on a committee. The noble lord (Lord Palmerston) had ex plained that various commissions would be sent out to the spot, where the greatest mismanagement had occurred, who would investigate and make reports. \He hoped these reports would be submitted to the house. On the strength of their being so submitted, and believing that if this were done they would be in possession of the required informa tion quicker than it could be obtained from a committee, he would accept them as the alternative proposed by the noble lord, 'which he was sure was for the interest of the country. If the noble lord made these arrangements, he, for one, was willing to place confidence in him, and he felt that the disparagements of the right hon. gentleman who had just sat down were unjust, and would be proved un founded. Mr. ROEBUCK—Sir, the committee for which I moved, and which I intend to name next Thursday, has already been decided upon by the house, andthe argument addnced by the noble lord to persuade the house to rescind the re solution is that a new Ministry was now entering upon office for the purpose which he stated just now, that is to say, that the house having determined a fortnight ago that the Ministry was totally inefficient for the purpose, that the army had dwindled away, that disaster and calamity had befallen us in the Crimea, and that in consequence an inquiry was requisite, the noble lord now comes forward and asks the house—to use the words of the right hon. gentleman opposite (Mr. Disraeli)—to stultify itself. He asks this house to rescind the resolution, to retire from its advantage, and to allow the present Ministry to do that which the late Ministry was confessedly unable to do. Oa what grounds does the noble lord make these demands ? That there is a new Ministry; but are there new Ministers! No, but the cards are in new hands, which, in spite of the eulogy of the noble lord, and the qualities which they are said to possess, and which I suppose are not improved in a fortnight, the house decided were totally inefficient for the purposes into which I proposed to the hoax° to inquire. Now the noble lord supposes that there is something antagonistic between the committee sitting and the Government. The threat of inquiry has brought about these revolutions. The inquiry may jog them on, and we shall get further re forms by the inquiry, if it is carried out by this house. Sir, a committee which has published a blue-book on the Civil Service states that any Administration is totally un able to reform the service, and they propose an Act of Par ' liament to do so. Now I propose that the House of Com mons should assist Government, for I believe Government totally unable to carry out such an inquiry as is requisite. The Prime Minister, when he is pat into power, finds per manent officers upon whose assistance he has materially to rely. Now, nothing but the power of the House of Com mons can enable the political chief to overcome the yid inertice of the departments ; and therefore I propose, in spite of the noble lord, to continue the proposition on Thursday next which I have on the books, and I shall move the names of the committee. In so doing I really believe that I shall aid the noble lord to remodel the institutions, and to infuse vigour and pith into the Administration of the country. The House of Commons will lend to the noble lord its assistance to obtain the pith and vigour which he will not be able to obtain by his own unaided power. Mr. MUNTZ said he would not consent to sultify him self, for he had voted for the inquiry in the belief that it would materially benefit the administration of the public service. He still retained that opinion, and if anything were required to justify it, it war the words of the noble lord that night. He (Mr. Muntz) wanted to know what would have been done if that vote had not been passed by the House of Commons ? The House of Commons had done its duty, and put an end to a Ministry which refused all reforms whatever, and he believed that if the house did not do its duty now it would sink to a low ebb in the esti mation of the country. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said the noble lord, who appeared for the first time at the head of the Government, had told the house that Government would be their committee of inquiry, but they had already condemned Government, and they wanted to have nothing to do with the Government, who would only stifle the inquiry. They wanted to inquire into the conduct of Government. The noble lord had men tioned certain reforms, but the men who wore to institute those reforms were the men who had already been con• demned. He asked where was the real political change in the Government ? It appeared exactly the status quo ante Roebuck. (Hear, hear.) The noble lord stood higher in public favour than Lord Aberdeen, who was supposed not to be qualified to carry on the war, and to have a friend ship of forty years' standing for the Emperor Nicholas, whereas the noble lord is said to hate the Czar, and to de -1 light in war—(hear, and laughter)—and this persuasion I had placed him in his present position. He (Mr. T. Dun combe) did not think the noble lord had made any reflec tions on Lord Derby. Lord Derby's conduct had been wise, patriotic, and prudent in not attempting to make an Administration on the old terms. Then came the noble lard the member for the city of London. The noble vis count was ready to join him—(laughter)—but the noble lord had been unfaithful to his colleagues and to the house, which had received him as its leader for two sessions, without an official responsibility, and he ought to have been able to present a better case for his desertion of his post than he had doner _ on the presentei,,h oco oo causioonf lord He had (Mr. failed, aid he, for one, should have been much disappointed if the noble lord had succeeded. The noble viscount had explained the services which were to be entruSted to Lord l'aninure, as the substitute for the Duke of Newcastle . They had had some experience of Lord Panmure, and he believed that he was the worst of the two. The noble lord the member for the city of London seemed to think that it was necessary that the Secretary of War should be of ff cvogmo m e mberamro andnos f , t am h i e House idohd.ed Lidoo Lord doCt Panmureem think on s t washaan that he d should be a man not hew i a n i t a he ni H a o n a o se f vigour and mind. The war was to be carried on with great vigour and energy by the new Ministry, but the noble lord had not explained what he meant by vigour and energy in carrying on the war. The words were in everybody's mouth, but nobody could !explain them. Now he (Mr. Duncombe) thought that carrying on a war with vigour was to defeat the enemy's army, to destroy his fleets, to devastate his country, to bombard his cities, to raze his fortifications, to blockade his ports, and to destroy his trade. This was what ho called carrying on a war with vigour and !energy, and what the people of England understood by carrying on a war with vigour and energy. Of course to do this there must be an army and a fleet. There was a magnificent fleet, but they were told that it was "badly manned, and worse disciplined," and a gallant admiral had made that statement. All he could say was, that if they were to judge of the insubordination of the fleet by the conduct of its admiral, it must be in a sad state. It had been said by some parties that there were only 12,000 or 13,000 of our troops before Sebastopol, whilst the Chancellor of the Exchequer estimated the number at 30,000. Now that was a fair matter of inquiry, and would of course be investigated by the committee. He did not blame the noble lord for attempting to discharge the order for the committee. No doubt the order was an inconvenient one, and the noble lord said as much the other night when he (Mr. Duncombe) put a question to the hon. and learned member for Sheffield. But the matter was now out of the hands of the hon. and learned gentleman, and the nomination of the committee rested with the house. (Hear, hear.) The motion for the pointment was considered by the Government in the light of a vote of censure, but he (Mr. Duncombe) did not vote for it as a vote of censure. He intended his vote to imply mismanagement and distrust. (Laughter.) The moment for censure had not yet arrived. Inquiry was needed, and censure, probably, might follow thati nquiry. If the commit tee should perform its duty it would point nut the real de linquents. If they should turn out to be military men, let them be brought to a court-martial and tried for neglect of duty. He did not believe that so much blame attached to parties at home as to parties at the seat of war. In his opi nion the commissary-general and the quartermaster-general had ill supported Lord Raglan, aad if that was the case they ought to be triedby court-martial and punished. (Hear.) If they could throw the blame on parties at home let them be brought to account, whoever they might happen to be. It had been said that the projected inquiry would impede the Government reforms which were now going on. But why should it do so ? The inquiry was to be into the past, and the:contemplated reforms might at once be proceeded with. (Hear, hear.) With regard to the negotiations for peace, he sue posed something would be heard from Lord J. Rus sell after his visit to Paris and Berlin. He believed that the people of this country meant one thing, and that the Government meant another. The people had entered in to the war in the hope that the arrangement made at the congress of 1815 would be revised. (Hear.) If Lord John Russell were now present, he would ask the noble lord not to forget, in accordance with the wishes of the people of this country, the wrongs of Poland, the wrongs of Hun gary, and the aspirations of that priest-ridden country, Italy. (Hear.) The people expected these questions to be mooted. The house had heard nothing from the First Lord of the Treasury about Sebastopol. If Sebastopol was to remain a fortress in the hands and under the control of :Russia, did any ono suppose tha a permanent peace could be established. That would never be the case if that fortress was allowed to remain to overawe the East and every coun try that might come in contact with Russia. (Hear.) He hoped the House of Commons would say on the part of this country, and that the Emperor of France would say on the part of his country, that they would never rest satisfied until the standards of England and France should be found floating triumphantly over the ruins of Sebastopol (cheers) —and that the Autocrat of all the Russias—this King of Poland, this heaven-born champion of the orthodox race— would be at list compelled to acknowledge and confess that his hypocrisy, tyranny, and lawless ambition must for ever cease and determine. (Cheers.) Mr. HORSMAN thought the Conservatives were so fearful of being thought factious that they had not per formed their duty to the nation by offering a atronger op position to the late Government, the history of which, he feared, would be one of the darkest pages in the annals of England. His own side of the house was also to blame for the over-confidence it had accorded to the Government, until awakened by the dreadful calamity in the Crimea. He thought Parliament could not safely recede from the position it took up three weeks ago, and should keep this inquiry in its own hands. Mr. E. BALL said the country never would be satisfied if the house consented to rescind the resolution it had some to. Mr. PHINN supported the snggestion of Lord Palmerston to postpone the operation ;of the committee until they should see how the Government acted. Mr. LIDDELL said it was a disgrace to this country that almost the existence of our army depended upon the assistance rendered by their allies in the way of food and clothing. He contended strongly for the necessity of pur suing the inquiry. Mr. VANSITTART expressed his satisaction of the ap pointment of the noble lord the member for the city of London (Lord J. Russell) to a mission lo Vienna. Mr. LAING urged that the recent change in the Admi• nistration did not indicate such an alteration in the minis terial policy as held out an assurance of more vigorous management or warranted the house in rescinding their late vote. Lord EBRINGTON expressed his satisfaction with the measures of invigoration announced by the Prime Minister as being already planned or in execution. Mr. DANBY SEYMOUR had hoped it ae recent change i‘5,,..._