The Sun. — London, England, 1849-05-12 00:00:00

FROM THE LONDON GAZETTE OF FRIDAY. DOWNING-STREET, MAY 7, 1849. The Queen has been graciously pleased to give orders for the appointment of Lieutenant-General the Right Honourable Sir Edward Blakeney, Knight Commander of the Most Honourable Order of the Bath, to be an Ordinary Member of the Military Division of the First Class, or Knights Grand Cross of the said Most Honourable Order. DOWNING-STREET, MAY 11. The Queen has been pleased to constitute the island of Hong-Kong and its dependencies to be a bishop's see and diocese, to be called the Bishopric of Victoria, and to name and appoint the Rev. George Smith, Doctor in Divinity, to be ordained and consecrated bishop of the said see. WHITEHALL, MAY 9. The Lord Chancellor has appointed George Carter Morrison, of Reigate, in the county of Surrey, Gent., to be a Master Extraordinary in the High Court of Chan cery. WAR-OFFICE, MAY 11. Ist or Grenadier Regiment of Foot Guards—Claud Alexander, Gent. , to be Ensi g n and Lieutenant, by pur chase, vice Ellison, promoted, May 11. 'Scots Fusilier Guards—Ensign and Lieutenant Lord Adolphus Frederick Charles William Vane to be Lieu tenant and Captain, by purchase, vice William Yates Peel, who retires; George Grey Dalrymple, Gent.. ro be Ensign and Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Lord A. Vane, May 11. 10th Regiment of Foot—Captain Stephen Francis Charles Annesley, from the 37th Foot, to be Captain, vice Sall, who exchanges, May 11. 26th Foot—John Stratton, Gent. to be ensign, by pur chase, vice Wilson, promoted in 83d Foot,„May 11. - 35th Foot—Lieutenant Archibald Tisdall to be Cap tain, by purchase, vice Faris, who retires; Ensign James Spratt to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Tisdall, May 11. 37th Foot—Captain Henry McManus Sall, from 10th Foot, to be Captain, vice Annesley, who exchanges, May 11. 47th Foot—Lieutenant Henry Meade Hamilton to be Captain, by purchase, vice Shrine, who retires; Ensign Thomas William Wollocombe to be Lieutenant, by pur chase, vice Hamilton; Charles John Perceval, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Wullocombe, May 11. 59th Foot—Lieutenant Charles Kendal Bushe, to be Captain, by purchase, vice Butler, who retires; Ensign Godfrey. doodman Mosley, to be Lieutenant, Gent,ur chase vice Bu he; Samuel John James Burns, to be Ensign, by purchase, vice Mosley, May 11. 69th Foot—Lieutenant Charles William Parker, to be Captain, without purchase. vice Tudor, deceased; En sign Charles Gilborne, to be Lieutenant, vice Parker, April 24; Thomas Henry Charleton, Gent., to be En sign, vice Gilborne, May 11. 79th Foo;—Sergeant Robert Jamieson to be Quarter master, vice Alexander Crulkshanks, who retires upon half-pay, May 11. 831 Foot —Ensign Sylvester W. F. M. Wilson, from 26th Foot, to be Lieutenant, by purchase, vice Crowe, who retires, stay 11. 91. st, Squid, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vine Whitle, promoted, May 11. HOSPITAL STAFF —John Berry, Gent., to be Assistant Surgeon to the Forces, vice William Smellie Johnstone, resigned, ;April . 13 ; Acting Assistant-Surgeon Vesey Agmondishana Brown, M.D., to be Assistant-Surgeon to the Forces, vice Finlay, deceased, May 11. Commission by the Lord-Lieutenant of Ayrshire. The Prince Regent's Royal Regiment of Ayrshire Militia—Nathan M - Neil, Gent., to be Ensign, vice Wil liam Cunni - ighame Gommoll, promoted, April 4. Commission by the Lord-Lieutenant of Lancashire. 'Lancashire hussars—Wiliiim Ince And&ton, Esq., to be Captain. May .5. OFFICE OF ORDNANCE, MAY 7. Royal Regiment of Artillery—Second Lieutenant Lambert Henry Deune to be First Lieutenant, vice G. W. Drummond Hay, removed from the regiment, being absent withemit leave, May 2. ADMIRALTY, MAY 9. The following promotions have this day taken place, consequent upon the death of Vice-Admiral Samuel Butcher: — Vice-Admiral of the Blue Matthew Godwin, to be Vice- Admiral of the White. Rear-Admiral of the Red Sir Francis' Mason, K.C.8., to be Vice-Admiral of the Blue. Rear-Ad miral of the White William Croft, to be Rear- Admiral of the Red. Rear-Admiral of the Blue Sir Nesbit Josiah Wil loughby, C. 8., K.C.11, to be Rear-Admiral of the White. Captain Sir George Rose Sartorius, to be Rear-Admiral of the Blue. ADMIRALTY, MAY 11. With reference to the naval promotions announced in the London Gazette of the 4th inst., the following further promotion, :also dated the 4th inst., has taken place: — Retired Captain George Gustavus Lennock, to be Retired Rear-Admiral, on the terms proposed in the London Gazette of the Ist Sept 1846. BANKRUPTS. Isaac Terry, watch and clock manufacturer, Hay market, to surrender, May 18, at half-past eleven, and Jane 22, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Can non, official assignee, Birchin-lane; Cox, Pinner's Hall, Old Broad-strc et. Henry Edmonds, dairyman, Charles-street, West bourne-terrace, May 18, a t twelve, and June 22, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Basingh all-street ; Bignall, Connaught-terrace, Edge ware-road. Fisher Alderton, coach builder, Manningtree , Essex , May 23, at one, and' June 22, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Stansfeld, official assignee; Cocker, Nassau-street; Ambrose, Essex. William Sergeant, fruiterer, Portsmouth, May 21 and June 25, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Tnr quand, official assignee, Guildhall Chambers, City; Mar ten, Thomas, and Hollams, Mincing - lane. NathanieeCobb, upholsterer, Colchester, May 17, at two, and June 25, at half-past eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Graham, official assignee, Coleman-street; Bull, Ely-place. Charles Johns, fixture dealer, Great Queen-street, Lincoln's Inn-fields, May 21, at half-past twelve, and June 16, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Green, official assignee, Guildhall Chambers, Basinghall-street; Rodman, Bucklersbury. Thomas Hebard, merchant, Old Trinity-house, Water- lane, Tower-street, May 25, at twelve, and June 19, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Edwards, official assignee, Frederick's-place, Old Jewry; Eilleary, Fenchurch-street. John Battams Shouler, draper, Leicester, May 25 and June 29, at eleven, at the Birmingham District Court, Nottingham. Bittleston, official assignee, Nottingham; Robinson, Queen-street -place; Whateley, Birmingham. Charles Pritchard, wine merchant, Hereford, May 26 and June 27, at twelve, at the Birmingham District Court. Whitmore, official assignee, Birmingham ; Bloxam, Birmingham. John Harrison, mercer, Hereford, May 26, and June 27, at twelve, at the Birmingham District Court. Christie, official assignee, Birmingham; Smith and Sons, Blooms bury-square; G willim, Hereford; Suckling, Birming ham. Thomas Johnston, draper, Manchester, May 25, and June 14, at eleven, at the Manchester District Court. Hobson, official assignee, Manchester; Gregory and Co., Bedford-row; Makinson, Manchester. Martin Brown Bell, victualler, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, May 23, at eleven, and June 19, at twelve, at the New castle-upon-Typo District Court. Wakley, official assignee, Newcastle-upon-Tyne; Forater, Newcastle upou-Tyne. Sylvanus Miller, banker, Eamont Bridge, Cumber land, May 24, at half past ten, and June 21, at one, at the Newcastle-upon-Tyne District Court. Baker, cffi cial assignee, Newcastle-upon Tyne • Lawrence, Crowdy, and Bowlby, Doctors' Commons; Griffith and Crighton, Newcastle-upon-Tyne. DIVIDENDS. At the Court, Basinghall-street. F. H. Bourquin, Northampton-square, Clerkenwell, watch manufacturer, June 8, at eleven—R. Tate, Regent itreet. silversmith, June 1, at one—T. T. Haydon, Wandsworth,. butcher, June 1, at twelve—Catherine Elton, Whitechapel, ironmonger, June 1, at eleven—J. Christie, R. Christie, and J. Stewart, Mark-lane, City, and Manchester, merchants, June 1. at eleven — A. A. Mackey and N . J. W. Holt, St. Helen's, Bishopsgate, merchants, June 4, at twelve—G. Rougemont, Broad street-buildings, City, merchant, June 4, at two—R. C. Kingsford and H. L. Barnwell, Seaton, Kent, and Ca therine-court, Tower-bill, millers, June 6, at twelve—G. Teil and B. M. Ronald, Old Jewry-chambers, City, East India merchants, June 5, at eleven—W. Buchanan, Old Jewry-chambers, City, merchant, June 6, at eleven—W. H. Mann, Maiden-lane, Queen-street, Cheapside, lead merchant, June 8. at twelve—H. S. Brazier, Oxford, tailor, June 8, at tw elve—J. Price, Belle Sauvage Hotel, City, and Plaistow, Essex, innkeeper and farmer, June 8, at one. In the Country. E. Parry, Pontypool, Monmouthshire, draper, June 7, at eleven—T. Coates, Sunderland, wine merchant, June 12, at one, at the Court, Newcastle-upon-Tyne — W. Todd, Whitehaven, Cumberland, ironmonger, June 14, at half-past ten, at the Court, Newcastle-upon-Tyne —T. Rowell, Hartlepool, Durham, merchant, June 14, at eleven, at the Court, Newcastle-upon-Tyne—T. Gales, Ford, Durham, ship builder, June 8, at twelve, at the Court, Newcastle-upon-Tyne—N. Brown, flexham, Northumberland, timber merchant, June 14, at twelve, at the Court, Newcastle-upon-Tyne—W. Tench, Winla latcua, Durham, grocer, June S, at half-past ten, at the Court, Newcastle-upon-Tyne—J. M. Penman, Sunder land, apothecary, June 11, at one, at the Court, New- castle-upon-Tyne—A. James, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, oil merchant, Juno 7, at twelve, at the Court, Newcastle upon-Tyne—C. A. Wawn, West Cornforth and Thris lington, Durham, and Regent's Canal-basin, Ratcliffe, lime burner, June 14, at one, at the Court, Newcastle upon-Tyne—J. Faulkner, Manchester, coach lace menu tacturer, June 5, at eleven, at the Court, Manchester— W. Barker, Royton, Lancashire, millwright, June 6, at twelve, at the Court, Manchester—J. Tattersall, Over Darwen, Lancashire, coal dealer, June 6, at twelve, at the Court, Manchester—R. Smith, Ashton-under-Lyne, tailor, June 6, at eleven, at the Court, Manchester—A. Fletcher, jun., Cheetham, Manchester, stuff m-Tchant, June 4, at twelve, at the Court, Manchester—J. Torn kinson. Liverpool, and Runcorn, .Cheshire, stonemason, Juno 13, at eleven, at the Court, Liverpool—J. Cheshire, Hartford, Cheshire, salt manufacturer, June 12, at twelve, at the Court, Liverpool—T. Hardwick and W. Hard wick, Leeds, auctioneers, June 4, at twelve, at the Court, Leeds—J. Swift, Huddersfield, chemist, June I, at eleven, at the Court, Leeds—J. Morfitt, jun., Leeds, flax spinner, i June I, at eleven, at the Court, Leeds — W. Ibbotson , KEffS"'"4`. merchant, June 2, at ten, at the Court, Leeds— le, Wolverhampton, printer, June 13, at e Court, Birmingham—L. Davis, Redditch. ire, needle manufacturer, June 16, at twelve, I .Birgunghatn—W . Kirk, Leicester, builder, `weave, at the Shire-hall, Nottingham—L. /Aic .... - i. ,,, i 4,. . --"1- pw l ;„., 11 .4A 1 1ti.:, --- ) ,'f4 "IW i t,f. i),_, . .1 • k " '4 Atf'' '' - I('''' ••^.' THE SUN, LONDON, SAT URDA. Y EVENING, MAY 12. 1849, Thompson, Westbromwich, Staffordshire, coach spring maker, June 13, at twelve, at the Court, Birmingham. PAYMENT OF DIVIDENDS. A. Lett, Commercial-road, Lambeth, timber merchant, 31c1 any Wednesday, between eleven and three, at the office of Mr. Whitmore, Basin zhall-street. E. M. Totterdell and J. Gruchy, Portsea, woollen draper, ss. 3d., any Wednesday, between eleven and three, at the office of Mr. WI hitmore, Basinghall-street. J. Ranstord, Leamington Priors, Warwickshire, coal, porter, and ale merchant, 3s. 4d., any Thursday, be tween eleven and three , at the ffice of Mr. Christie, Birmingham. J. and C. D. Matthews, Chipping Norton, Oxford shire, and Chipping Campden, Gloucestershire, bankers and grocers, first dividend of 75., and second of 35., on Thursday, May 10, or any subsequent Thursday, be tween eleven and three, at the office of Mr. Valpy, Bir- mingham. Bale, Brothers, and Hellings, Rugeley, Staffordshire, brewers, first dividend of 2s. 3d., and second of 2d., on Thursday, May 'lO, or any subsequent Thursday, be tween eleven and two, at the office of Mr. Valpy, Bir mingham. W. H. Gratrix and J. Taverner, Nuneaton, War wickshire, silk and ribbon manufacturers, 2s. 2J., on Thursday, May 10, or any subsequent Thursday, be tween eleven and two, at the office of Mr. Valpy, Bir. mingharn. C. Broad, Bristol, timber merchant, second dividend of 6,171.., together with first dividend of ls. 11d., upon new proofs, any Wednesday, between ten and twelve, at the office of Mr. Miler, Bristol. J. Whitworth, Leeds, millwright, Be, any day after May 10, betweeen eleven and two, at the office of Mr. Young, Leeds. J. Dent, Huddersfield, cloth merchant, 2s. 3id., on subsequent proofs, any day after May 10, between eleven and two, at the office of Mr. Young, Leeds. NOTICES OF CERTIFICATES. At the Court, Basinghall-street. W. G. Walker, Newick, Sussex, apothecary, June 5, at lilf-past eleven—R. Wynne,;Brentford, grocer, June 5, at eleven—T. Floyd, Wendover, Buckinghamshire, cattle dealer, June 6, at half past twelve—G. Francis, Rayleigh, Essex, innkeeper, June 8, at eleven—N. W. Hill, St. Neot's, Huntingdonshire, plumber, June 8, at twelve—P. Cruikshank, J. Melville, and W. F. Street, Austin-friars, City, merchants, June 6, at eleven—J. Nash, Globe wharf, Rotherhithe, and Strood, Kc nt, timber and hop merchant, June 8, at half-past eleven — T. Pearson, Blaudford-street, Portman-square, butter man, June 14, at eleven—C. H. Swann, Sandford; J. Swann, Wolvercote; and W. Swann, Ensham, Oxford• shire, paper makers, June 5, at eleven. In the Country. G. S. Y. Bricknell, Cheltenham, coach proprietor, at the Court, Bristol, June 1 at eleven—lL Kenward, Moreton-in-the-Marsh, Gloucestershire, tailor, at the Court, Bristol, June 1, at eleven—T. Coates, Sunder land, wine merchant, at the Court, Newcastle-upon- Tyne, June 3, at eleven—E. Lax, Berry Edge, Durham, grocer, at the Court, Newea,stle-upon-Tyne, June 8, at h Alf-past ten—T. Reddy, Bridlington, Yorkshire, printer, at the Town-hall, Kingston-upon. Hull, June 13, at halt past ten—G. liouldsworth, Northowran, Yorkshire, worsted spinner, at the Court, Leeds, June 1, at eleven —G. Kyrke, Bryn Malley, Denbighshire, lime burner, at the Court, Liverpool, June 11, at eleven.—W. Green, Birkenhead, auctioneer, at the Court, Liverpool, June 7, at eleven—A. Egerton, Over, Cheshire. builder, at the Court, Liverpoo , , June 6, at eleven—M. Kirk, Notting hem, builder, at the Court, Nottingham, June 8, at ten —A. I'. Halliday and E:iza Paten, Cornbroek, and Sal ford, Lancashire, manufacturiog chemists, at the Court, Manchester, June 7, at eleven—J. Scott, Manchester, bootmaker, at the Court, Manchester, June 5, at one— C. Kent, Ashbuurn, Derbyshire, draper, at the Court, Manchester, June 5, at twelve. At the Court of Review, June 1. G. Workman, Water-lane, Brixton, beer shop keeper —E. Perks, Redditch and Stokes Mills, Worcestershire, needle manufacturer—S. Adcock, Edward's-street, St. Marylebone, working jeweller—A. Reynolds, Charter house street, Aldersgate-street, engraver—A. Mitchell, Cardiff, draper—H. Ready, Hounslow, builder—T. Ives, Wakefield, dyer —W. Allen, Watton, Norfolk, innkeeper —J. C. Fletcher, Trafalgar road, Greenwich, coal mer chant—D. Evans, jun., Liverpool, coach builder. PARTNERSHIPS DISSOLVED. J. Musgrave and J. Musgrave, Laugbton, near Gains borough, farmers—R. Barlow and J. Reed, Liverpool, watchmakers—J. Fear and T. Fletcher, Stockporr, Cheshire, joiners—D. Evans and C. Wakeford, Cardiff, newspaper proprietors—T. Arnall and C. J. Tinker, Pontefract, Yorkshire, chemists and druggists—J. Col bourn, S. Growcutt, J. Turley, and T. Turley, Bank field-works, near Bilston, ironmasters (so far as regards J. Turley and T. Turley)—E. Bury, T. A. Curtis, J. Kennedy, and J. Vernon, in and near Liverpool, iron shipbuilders—W. Mills and J. Skinner, Brighton, meal men—T. Smith, Elizabeth Wilden, and B. Wilden, Bir mingham, drapers—ll. Elphee, G. Jackson, and A. Jackson, Maidstone, linendrapers—J. Brown and W. Clay, West Derby, near Liverpool, plumbers, painters, and glaziers. INSOLVENT PETITIONERS.- John Prime, Cambridge, journeyman carpenter. Robert Stevens, Cambridge, college servant: Amos Tomkins, Swanbourne, near Winslow, Buck. inglaamslaire, baker. Robert Dickens, Stewkeley, Buckinghamshire, farmer. Mary Spencer, Woodbridge, Suffolk. William Edward Gingell, Bath, engraver. Charles Shrubsole Palmer, Sheerness, grocer. Thomas Winsley, Bridgenorth. Richard Tree, Clyst St. Mary, Devonshire, market gar dener. Edward Watson, Sheerness. William Johnson, Queenborough, butcher. Charles Young, Shrewsbury Gaol, taskmaster. Rev. John Dawson, Llangar, Merionethshire, clerk. John Wylie, Hanley, Staffordshire. Evan Roberts, Casginhigbgate, Denbigshire, farmer. Luke Davis, jun., Wolverhampton. Thomas Nutridge, Bilston, Staffordshire, butty collier. Joseph Richard Hart, Cambridge, bookbinder. John Collins, Cambridge, butcher. William Kempson Walker, St. Georges'-street, East. John Hitting, Cambridge, beer seller. Charles Matthews, Bath, baker. Thomas Dagg, Bath, coal dealer. James Roberts, Bridgewater, journeyman blacksmith. Isaac Hoyle, Headingley-cum-Burley,'.near Leeds, York. shire, wire drawer. John Norman, jun., Bungay, tinman. John Burgess, Lowestoft, shoemaker. Thomas Jepson Wagner, Oxford, attorney. Robert Watson, Manchester, music seller. James MeDougall, Longsight, near Manchester,. Joseph Burgess, Hulme, near Manchester. William Perry, Salford. Henry Easor, Liverpool, bootmaker. James Butcher, Salford, butcher. James Moffatt, Chilton Polden, Somersetshire, tailor. John Newton, Ashford, Kent, ostler. William Pierce, Canterbury, ginger beer manufacturer. Edward Ovenden, Canterbury. John Bayldon, Wanstrow, Somersetshire, clerk. SCOTCH SEQUESTRATIONS. J. Forbes, Taymount, Kinclaven, Perthshire, farmer and shipowner, to meet May 16 and June 6, at one, within the City Hall, Perth. G. Williamson, Aberdeen, cattle-dealer, to meet May 16 and June 6, at twelve, within the Advocates' Hall, Aberdeen. A. Lorn, Ardrishaig, Argyleshire, fisherman, to meet May 19 and June 9, at two, within the Wellington Hotel, Dunoon. Barbara Williams, Edinburgh, milliner, to meet May 17 and June 7, at two, within the Ship Hotel, Edinburgh. PRICE OF SUGAR. The average price of Brown or Muscovado Sugar, com. pnted from the returns made in the week ending May 8 1649, is 255. 8 3 / 4 d. per cwt. THE ISLAND OF HONG-KONG—long-Kong is an abbreviation of Heang-Kcang, which, in the Chinese language, signifies the valley of fragrant waters, and it is one of the group of islands which lie north of the estuary leading to Canton, in latitude 22 deg. 17 min., and longitude 114 dcg. 12 min. east, and is distant from Macao 42 miles, and from Canton 105 miles. Hong-Kong is about ten miles in length, and four and a half in breadth ; the noble harbour is nearly four miles in length, and rather more than one and three-quarters in width. Hong-Kong of one of that cluster of islands, called by the Portuguese the Ladrones, or Piratical Islands, and is a barren region, which although in many parts cultivated with persevering industry by the Chinese inhabitants, scarcely repays the agriculturist for his labour, as vegetation will not thrive in this " insalubrious colonial possession of the British." A rocky sterile mountain rises from the shore, the height of which is 1,000 to 2,000 feet above the level of the sea, on whose side the town of Victoria is built, where houses of every variety of form have sprung up, with continuous ranges of build ings, interspersed with detached and enclosed villas, where lately revelled the venomous serpent and Po i son ous centipede The island has been held in ill repute by the Chinese nation from time immemorial, as one most unhealthy, and from being the resort of pirates, thieves, and depraved characters of every d escr i p tion; an d ' when taken possession of by us, the whole population, which was under eight thousand, consisted principally of this disreputable class; and although many have left, still the insecurity of property to and in the in Hong-Kong is proverbial, and daring acts of piracy occur continu all y near har bour of Victoria, within sight of our men-of-war. The extreme eastern and western parts of Victoria are com posed of Chinese streets and bazaars, where articles and curiosities essentially Chinese are to be found, as well as those of European origin or manufacture. Some few villages are distributed over the island, but Chuck-choo, a military station on the southern side, is the largest, the population of which does not amount to seventeen hundred. Sai-Wan, a smaller village on the east, is also occupied as a military station and sanitorium for our troops, the native population of which does not amount to five hundred.—China and the Chinese. CHURCH OF ENGLAND SCHOOLMASTERS' AND SCHOOLMISTRESSES' MUTUAL ASSURANCE SOCIETY.—A meeting was held yesterday at St. Martin's National School, Trafalgar-square, for the purpose of forming a Church of England Schoolmasters' and Schoolmistresses' Mutual Assurance Fund.—His Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury was in the chair, and tho Bishop of Win chester, Lichfield, and Manchester were present. An abstract of the rules and regulations was read, and the society formally established, after which a vote of thanks was given to his Grace, and the meeting broke up. PARIS EXHIBITION OF MODERN ART.—The Na tional Assembly has d-termined that the annual exhibi tion of the modern productions of art shall take place in the ci-;levant palace of the Tuileries, now named the " ralais National." It will not open before the 15th of June. The Exposition of Industrial Art will open June Ist. —Builder. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, May 11. Their Lordships met at half-past Four o'clock. ROYAL COMMISSION. The Royal Assent was this afternoon given by Com mission to the Exchequer-bills Bill, the Outdoor Paupers Bill, the I)istraining for Rates Bill, the Reco very of Wages (Ireland) Bill, the Protection of Justices (Ireland) Bill, the Spirits (Ireland) Bill, the Petty Ses sions Bill, the Prisoners Removal (Ireland) Bill, the Blackburn Waterworks Bill, and several other private Bills. The Lords Commissioners were the Lord Chan cellor, the Marquis of Clanricarde, and the Earl of Shaftestury. PRIVILEGE. The Earl of GALLOWAY complained again that his speeches were incorrectly reported. The Earl of MOUNTCASHEL also complained that while the speeches of some of the Members of their Lordships' House were reported at great length his were never reported fully. Earl GREY corrected a mistake which had occurred in the report of his speech on the navigation• laws in reference to Canada; with that exception his speeches had been very correctly reported. PETITIONS. The Bishop of CASHEL presented a petition, pray ing for a grant in favour of Church education in Ireland. The Earl of RODEN presented petitions with a simi lar prayer ; also petitions praying for the release ot . the Rev. J. Shore. Lord STANLEY presented several petitions against the repeal of the navigation-laws ; also several petitions from unions in Ireland against the rate in aid. The Duke of NEWCASTLE presented several peti tions against the repeal of the navigation•laws. The Earl of LUC AN presented a petition against the rate in aid. OCCUPATION OF ROME. Lord BEAUMONT gave notice of questions to the Government as to the communications which might have taken place from France, Austria, or Naples, on the subject of the tripartite invasion of the Roman terri tory, and whether the British Government was concerned. directly or indirectly, in this invasion of the territory cf a Power which was not at war with either of the Pcwers. PETITIONS. Lord WHARNCLIFFE presented a petition from Liverpool, praying for further inquiry into the operation of the law of bankruptcy before any legislative mea• sure on the subject be adopted. Ordered to b© referred to the Committee. NAVIGATION-LA W S. The NOBLE LORD also gave notice that he should, in the Committee on the Navigation Bill, move the omis- sion of the reciprocity clauses. PETITIONS. The Earl of YARBOROUGH presented several pe titions from agricultural districts praying fur protection. The Earl of DENBIGH presented several petitions in favour of the Bill for the protection of women. The Marquis of BRE A DALBANE presented petitions from- several congregations of the Church of England and of Dissenters, with a similar prayer. HARRIS'S LIGHTNING CONDUCTORS. The Earl of - WILTON moved for certain rcturns re lating to her Majesty's ships fitted up with Sir W. Snow Harris's lightning, conductors, and also of the number of ships struck by lightning during a certain period. The l'Arl of MINTO having entered into explana tions on the subject, After a fvw words from the Earl of ST. GERMANS, the motion was understood to be agreed to. EXT It A.-PAROCHIAL PAUPERS. Visenunt HEREFORD then rose to ask the question of which ho had given notice on the subject of the deficiency of the means adopted for affording relief to extra•parochial paupers. Ho wished to know whether it was the intention of the Government to introduce any measure on this subject. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE, who replied to the question, was so completely inaudible in the gallery, that not a syllable of his answer could be caught. PETITIONS. The Bishop of OXFORD presented several petitions in favour of the Bill for the better protection of women. RATE IN AID (IRELAND) BILL. The Earl of CARLISLE, in rising to move the se cond readin?: of this Bill, said, if when ho had the ho nour of addressing the House on a previous occasion, he expressed regret that in doing so he would have to op pose the opinions and feelings of many of their Lord ships, he ought, perhaps, to express greater disappoint ment on the present occasion, because the Bill, of which he had to move the second reading, had already been denounced and precondenaned by a Committee of their Lordships' House.—(Hear, bear.) But he had to state that her Majesty's Ministers were as sensible as any Member of that House, or of the other House of Par liament, or of any of the witnesses examined before the Committee of either House, of the objections, many of them valid ones, which might be urged to the pre sent measure, and which, were it not for the circum stances of' the case with which they had to deal, might have been found insuperable. They had, however to deal with those circumstances, and the responsibility which Government had taken on itself, and which, in spite of opposition, it meant to adhere to, was to devise the means which, in their opinion, appeared best for meeting an emergency most serious and appalling, but which, arguing from all former experience, they hoped would be but temporary, and capable of being overcome. He would therefore endeavour, as briefly as possible, to state the circumstances which had given rise to the measure; they all knew, that for the last three years there had been a failure of the usual crops which formed a principal portion of the food of that country. The state of things which that gave rise to was en deavoured, in the first instance, to be met by two succes sive Governments, but especially by the present one, by a system of relief works, which, though well intended, had turned out to be cumbrous and ill-working, end had ultimately broken down.—(Hear, hear.) The next attempt made was a gratuitous distribution of relief by food alone, which was carried on on a gigantic scale — and no less than three millions of persons were in the receipt of relief at one time. That, however, turned out not to be calculated to meet the state of distress, and accordingly, in October, 1848, that wholesale system of relief was brought to a close, and some relief had been administered where it was found necessary through the agency of the various poor-law unions. Many of the unions, twenty-one especially, were however unable to give this relief. These were supplied from the public fund, and from a Treasury minute, he found that for the year ending October, 1848, the sum contributed to those from the British Association amounted to 236,0004, and that with other aid, 367,000/. had been expended on those unions. In Connaught the sum col lected in the name of the poor-rate last year only amounted to 182,0001., while the expenses of the unions had been 399,0001., thus leaving a balance of 216,0001. to be made up, It was gratifying to find that not less than 200,000 individuals had been saved from starvation by the relief which had been given. He was aware that Government had been exposed to censure from the manner they had acted. It was not for him to say whether that censure was deserved cr not ; but he did know that, among all the measures Government had recourse to, in reference to Ireland, one leading determi mination had invariably been kept in view by Govern ment, and had pervades: all their measures and proceed ing, and that was that, so far as they could help it, no one should be allowed to die of starvation. They were aware that when for three successive years the usual crops in Ireland had, more or less, failed, that it was impossible for any Govern ment to prevent some, perhai,s, from that appal ling death ; and in ordinary times it was not the province of Government to provide for the daily sub sistence of the people; but under the existing circum stances in Ireland, seeing no prospect of the people being able to provide food, and no prospect of relief but from without, they were determined that focd should be given, and life saved. Accordingly, at the commence ment of the present session, an addition of 50,000/. to the sum previously given from the Exchequer, was proposed to be voted for the relief of the distress. That proposi tion, when submitted to Parliament, met with consider able opposition, some Irish Members declaring that the property of Ireland ought to support the poverty of Ire ladd, while other Members, not Irish Members, but who took a great interest in Irish subjects, contended that in various parishes in England, in Norfolk for instance, the poor-rate amounted to 16s. 6d. in the pound—that those grants for the relief of Irish distress only tended to perpetuate the misery and poverty of Ireland, and that Ireland being exempt from the property-tax and Ex cise duties, and many other imposts, she ought to raise funds for the support of her own poor. That was the general feeling of all parties in the House of Com mons when the grant was proposed. He had said that at the commencement of the session Government was prepared to follow out the course they had previously pursued in giving relief to Ireland, by applying to Par. liament for aid, from time to time, on the understand ing that such should be administered under the strictest economy till better days should arise, and better modes of giving relief should be devised. In that course, how ever, Government could not obtain the acquiescence of Pariament. It might be said that Government had altered their opinion, because they were not prepared to • abide the consequences of a deficit. But when it was considered that within the last three years there had been no less than 10,095,000/. given from the Exchequer for the relief of Irish distress, 318,000/. of which, in justice to Ireland, he felt bound to say had been repaid, and he had no doubt that in the course of time the , whole sum stipulated for—the one-half—would be repaid also—when they remembered also that at a time of distress even in this country, a million and a half of money had been raised, 300,000/. of it being raised in Ireland—had been raised by the people of this country for the relief of that dis tress, it did occur to the Government that after the sug gestions so ably and forcibly argued, that no further grant should be given—and that previous to asking fur ther aid from the Exchequer they should first ascertain whether a contribution for the relief of Irish distress could not be obtained from Ireland itself. That was thought not so unreasonable a proposition but that it was,ue e st in io a n de t ? hen Arat e i i n n whatmigh t fo b r e m h w ad as re th eo a u t recourse i t t ri b ut io The q n t o be aid appeared not to b e a novelt y in Ireland; fur at a meeting of delegates from the different boards of g uardians in Ireland, held in D ublin in October, 1848, it was suggested, coupled with a curtailment of the area of taxation so far as to make it coterminous with pro • perty. But not only had it been su g gested there, but a rate in aid for local distress_wa s su gg ested by the Noble Lord opposite (Stanley) on the first night of the session, • so that both the Noble Lord and the Irish boards of guardians had suggested such a measu re. The Earl of RODEN—To what unions did those guardians belong? The Earl of CARLISLE—There were delegates from all the unions of Ireland; at all events the meeting was open to such. There were also analogus cases both in Scotland and England, when circumstances arose similar to those which prevailed in Ireland. It was provided by the 43d of Elizabeth that if the justices of the peace. saw that the inhabitants could not levy money for the I repeal of the legislative union.—( ll ear, hear.) lie 1 relief of the poor, any two justices might impose a rate I trusted that, in the sig` - :t of that great Being who was in aid for that purpose. And as regarded Scotland, by I cognisant of all their iiitentions, they would be 1 the 53d of George 111., it was ordained in respect to I found to be acting justly; and leaving the issue in His some counties which had been reduced to a state of hands, he hoped it would prove as satisfactory and as distress by a failure of the corn crop, that the Com- promising as any person must desire, who was anxious missioners of Supply should assess and levy on all held- to remove the distress and miseries of that unfortunate tors and landowners a sum of money not exceeding country. The Noble Lord concluded by moving, as an 14,000 L fur the relief of that distress So far, then, for amendment, that the Bill be read a second time on that precedents. The provisions of the measure were simple. day six months. They authorised the Poor-law Commissioners to levy a I The Archbishop of DUBLIN said, that if ever he was rate in aid on all unions and electoral divisions for the I disposed to adhere pertinaciously to the opinion ex relief of such unions and electoral divisions as should I pressed in the report of the Committee appointed in be in need of it ; that the rate levied be sixpence I 1835 to consider of the state of pauperism in Ireland, of in the pound on the poor-law valuation, the trea- I which Committee he was a limber; or if he were ever surer of the county being empowered to impound one- I so factiously inclined be would not attempt to detract half of the ordinary rate, so as to extract from it a six- from the merit, which he thought, on such a question as penny contribution until such rate was collected . In the l i this belonged to the Government—for intending t,) pro whole of Ireland the rate would raise 323,0001., which, ivide for the wants of the Irish people at this time. But the with the 50,0001. already voted, would exceed the I question, which ought not to be lost sight of, was, would amount of contributions raised from extraneous sources I the measure prove one of permanent good for the future, in aid of Ireland last year. Of course, in the circum- I by reducing largely the number of claimants for relief, stances of Ireland, it must be evident that there were I and improving the resources out of which that relief unions and electoral divisions which would not be able I was to be granted? He had himself foreseen, and he to furnish their quota.—(Hear.) They were all made had also foretold, that in all probability another fai liable, because it was impossible to ascertain how far lure of crops would succeed the first, and that, in that the range of insolvency would extend. Were the en- I ease, the demands for outdoor relief would be extensive tire sum raised it would not be equal to meet the whole I and heavy. He had wished devout's' that things might of the expenditure, and he apprehended Government I have turned out differently; but wh'at had been the re must still supply funds, where necessity existed, on the ; sult ? Very unfortunately, his prophecy came true. credit of the rate in aid. The power to impose such 1 There was a great wart of food, and, along with it, rate was limited to two years. and Government dis- , clamours for out-door relief. These clamours he felt claimed any intention of continuing it longer. What, I himself bound to resist, and ho did so at the risk of then, was the exact case with which they had to deal? being considered hard hearted, cruel, and indifferent to There were many districts of Ireland, especially those , the sufferings of his fellow-countrymen. He believed districts to the west of the Shannon, whi c h were totally that many honourable and honest men were deterred unable to support themselves, and as support could no i by a fear of these imputations from expressing their real longer bs given them from Imperial sources, they sentiments, not only upon this, but upon welly other had resolved on looking to Ireland for that support.: questions. As to being insensible to the sufferings of The unions from which they could expect no support 1 his countrymen, be was likely to be amongst the last were twenty-one, but there were ten or twelve others i who would become obnoxicese to that suspicion, for, in on the verge of destitution, and others more or less in- i the discharge of the sacred functions of his office, he had capacitated from supporting themselves.—(Hear, hear.) i had opportunities of seeing more of them than most It would be in the recollection of the House that the I people. He had seen the suns of clergymen turning out average a mount of poor rate last year, in the whole of I to break stones on the reeds to support their parents, and Ulster, was is. 911 per pound, Munster 3s. 71d. per .: students from the University go to enlist in the army for 1 lid. per po u nd. Con;paring ; the same purpose. This break down was attribut ed on Engli s h unions, ho found from i all hands, to the poor - rates. The cattle , the s eed, and returns, that in twenty unions in different parts of Eng• ~ the implements of the poor people had been taken land the average poor rate last year was 4s. Id., and in poun d, that with state ns t of er the is. from them to satisfy the poor-rate, and then they had twenty parishes in these unions it was as high as Bs. 111 d., gone themselves to obtain relief at the workhouse. He while in four o r five others it was 12s. 11d. per pound. s mentioned these things to show that it was very unlikely But it was said it was not ie the levying of this 63 . in I he should be ignorant of, or insensible to, these hard the pound of rate that ..the objections were taken—it was i ships and their remedy. His great object was to pre against the principle of the measure.— (Hear, hear.) 1 vent these evils and hardships from being perpetuated, And it was asked, wh y and the town of Belfast b e as k e d to contiibute for the 1 this mea sure was to obviate their recurrence? It might, s hould the county of Antrim . and be should ver y much like now to understand how ' district of Mayo, more than Warwickshire should con- therefore, be accorded to him, that without bin;; indif tribute fur the distress of the town of Birmingham. It ferent to the troubles and distresses of the Irish people, must not, however, b e l e f t out of v i ew th a t Ireland was 1 ho might declare himself unable in his conscience to give exempted from tw e l ve m illi ons o f taxes, which England i his support to this measure of the Government.—(Hear.) paid. And he, therefore, said there was nothing unfair or I Lord 13EALT1IONT said he would own teat the unreasonable in making the more favoured parts of Ire- subject was on all sides surrounded with difficulties; and land, in this instan ce , con t r ib u te fcr the distress which . he was far from being unaware, especially, of the greet prevailed i n it, more especially as those were exempt 1 difficulty in which any Government must of necessity be from many of th e t axes by England. It was said l placed while endeavouring to legislate upon it. What the lucerne tax wou ld b e a pre f era ble mode to the pre- t ever blame m i g ht at tach to th:m in this respect, he sent. He would not di scuss that now, although at some I was sure that a large portion of it ought to rest with future ti me t h e H ouse m i g h t b e called on to discuss the i the Irish Members themselves, who had male a point or subject.—(Hear, bear.) All he could say was that her I resisting the progress of the measure. On the ether Majesty':, G o v ernment wo uld not have been indisposed hand, if the Government, upon becoming acquainted had they found that the Irish Members preferred that I with this determivarion of the Irish Members, bad stated system, and they gave them the opportunity of saying it fairly to the other House of Parliament, be fully so, though they did not take advantage of it, of intro- believed th a t they would not have found themselves so during the income -tax in place of the present measure. wanting in essistance as they had. Therefore, while he Government, however, conceived that the reasons which I blamed the Irish Members for baying been uncandid prevented Sir R. Peel from extending that Bill to Ireland 1 and ungenerous in their conduct, he also blamed thee when he first introduced it, and also that the reasons which 1 Government for not having manite sted that resolution, prevented Lard John Russell, when he moved its coati- which, in as crisis like this, they ought certainly to hone nuation, from moving its being extended to Ireland, had shown.—(Hear, hear.) As to the Bill itself, its object, not disappeared, and that therefore it had better not be like that of every Poor-law Bill, was to relieve those extended to that country. But on the other hand the who could not tied any other support by their own rate in aid did not require any of that machinery I means. He was sure, ho.vever, that the operation of which would be requisite fur an income-tax in 1 this Bill would be to increase the number of persons Ireland, nor any more expenses than were at present ' in that situation, and to decrease at the same time incurred for carrying cut the poor laws, cur would it the means by which they might be assisted. require even an augmentation of the staff. It therefore In the first place, a national rate would tend much to appeared to Government to bo the easiest method that decrease the local interest'. Within a certain limit they they had at hand to meet the demands which could be had a certain amount of control over the rates; but the no longer resisted or postponed.—(Hear, hear.) H e moment they spread the rate over a great extent of should also say that the Government could not feel any district, that moment they lost all control over the. rate, compunction for the advances that were made for build- 1 and lessened the bensficiel of-eta of, and interest in, the ing workhouses in that country, as they had been the' operation of the rate. This rate in aid would, in point means not only of sheltering and feeding many a desti- of fact, increase the number of insolvent unions, while it tute poor person, but that they also gave employment would, at the same time, decrease the number of those to many who would otherwise famish.—(Hear, hear.) which were yet in anything like a solvent state. Now, It should also be borne in mind by their Lordships, that with respect to the collection of time rate, he warned them I tution; that they would drive the poor man to let his one there were several other Bills in progress through Par- that if they proceeded to distrain, they woul I but reduce drive them e Bement tor the relief of Irish distress, one of which was the unfortunate people to a state of still greater desti possessed of—that they would as a consequence brat increase to abandon their lands, and that stack ln _ ht go, or any other remnant of property which he the general distress, the general pauperism, t aG o nod m v e a ar k nn e onit suchhen Government consideredfao n r th e alteration tn o betters : nna judicious the od e porfes disposinge poor a n n t fi he n elofiafewi the e s ; incumbered estates. If her were asked why not bring !without ea d se ' they would measuressthatthatoins any material good. He warned them, those answer w a alone was, that they could not wait. Next with regard ) would in c o ll ect i ng si t rfi heulla n this sixpenny rate, they to the loan of money for the relief of that distress, h e but endanger the rate raised under the assured their Lordships that that was given on the onlyeousrloyaswointh forttti s hr m i n n e g ls n u g re i , t hison ' also, 1 present poor-law, and thus rick that which they were trust and credit of the rate in aid; and he hoped they I i now receiving, as far as the people w ere abl e to contri would consider how very precarious that furtive charity i bate. He would ask them when they adopted this nee must be if, in conclusion, ho should assure their Lord- I tional rate, what they were to do with the capitalist who ships that statements from the poor-law Commissioners m might be disposed to invest his money in the purchase strongly show, that Government dare not risk any further of land in Ireland? He (Lord Beaumont) did not, as delay. Mr. Burke, the poor-law Commissioner of West- things presented themselves under this proposed rate in port, states on the 7th of 'March, that their funds are in- aid, see that there was any guarantee to the purchaser adequate to meet the meal and milk-contractors, and of land against excessive rates and excessive paupetism. that the Commissioners will not hold themselves bound '• He felt and expressed himself with the certainty of a I to answer for the responsibility. He also stated, that prediction, that Ireland was fast progressing towards a I mortality was very prevalent, and particularly among state of transition, and painful though it might be, it small children in the workhouses. Another statement was quite certain that the land in Ireland must, as a of the 3d of April shows, that the people are for the consequence of the existing state of things, pass from most part going about in an absolute state of nakedness, I the hands of its old proprietors into those of other and are dying beneath some shelter or another by ; parties, who could better bear to meet the burdens to hundreds, of cholera and other diseases caused by fa. I which property in that unhappy country had become mine and distress. He hoped that the circumstances ' subject. If they were to seek for a mode of redressing of Ireland would have that due impression on their the mighty evil which oppressed the country in the Lordships' hearts which he felt assured his feeble shape of a vast population, for whom they could not efforts could not effect, for the human suffering find the means of employment, and who were conse in that country was greater in its intensity quently reduced to pauperism and idleness, the only than had been ever known to weigh down the ever- cure, in his opinion, for so great an evil, was to be found gies of any nation, in ancient or modern times, and he in emigration on an extensive scale. Looking at the considered that there was another aggravation, added to whole question, he must say, that he saw no course for their miseries, and that was that their calamities were, him to take, but to give his vote against this motion. from duration, losing that share of sympathy which they The End of ROSSE said the Noble Lord who had before elicited. Ho hoped that their Lordships would just sat down, had so forcibly stated his objections to look, not to the principle, but rather to the result, as the the proposed rate in aid, that he need not say anything poor in the workhouses, who were at present supported i in addition on that subject. In all those objections he at the rate of one penny per head per diem, must neces- fully concurred. He was convinced that if a vigorous sarily die in thousands if not immediately relieved by effort had been made to assist emigration in Ireland this measure, particularly as the meal and' milk con- some time ago, they would have had a different state of tractors would not su pp l y those victims of distress with things now. He saw no reason why they should not the small portion that keeps body and soul together. make an effort to equalise taxation in all parts of the The Earl of RODEN moved as an amendment, that kingdom, and in Ireland as well. The Noble Lord who the Bill be read a second time that day six months. He introduced the measure seemed to labour under a mis had listened with every attention possible to the Noble take as to the contribution of Ireland to the Imperial Earl (Earl of Carlisle), and was prepared to give him Exchequer, and for the support of its poor. The Noble and the Government every credit for their sympathy for Lord thought its contributions in these respects were the distress of that country. He was well aware of the I small. But how stood the fact? The income of Env anxiety of Government to meet those difficulties ; t land was 250,000,000/., that of Ireland was 26,000.0001., nor could he forget the honourable and generous or in the proportion of 121 to 1. Now that average exertions of the late. lamented Lord Lieute- would make Great Britain contribute to the revenue of nant of Ireland (Earl Besborough) in behalf the country 47,840,0001., and Ireland 4,160,0001.; but of that distress; but he thought that her Majesty's the fact was that Ireland was now paying to the revenue Ministers should go back to the real cause of that • 4,164,264/. er upwards, of 400,000/. more than her distress, and not proceed, as they were now, by such an I just proportion. Then, as to local taxadon. The unjust measure. He asked the indulgence of their Lord- rateable property of England was, in 1847, ships while he was pointing out to them how little they one hundred and five millions, and the local tax's were aware of the state of the poor-laws in Ireland, and tion was twelve millions, while the rateable what was the difference between the operation of those property in Ireland was 13,187,4211, and the local taxi laws in that country and in this In 1846 a Royal Corn- tion 4,294,3191., or three times larger in proportion than mission was instituted to inquire into the circumstances the local taxation of England. He regretted that lie of poverty under which Ireland was t h en l a b our i ng to i must admit, to the fullest extent, the reasons assigned by a very great extent, and, in consequence, it was thought a the Noble Lord for introducing his measure, namely, the right that Gove rnment should propose an enactment for destitution which prevailed, but he considered that the a time, for the support of the poor, but he should say measure would not meet the difficulty. It was the fact, that law was not passed at the instance of that Commis• that the population of Ireland was too large in propor sion, but in accordance with the suggestion of Mr. tion to the means of employment. What he wanted to Nicholls, who during six weeks in that country, ex. know was, had Government clone anything to diminish amined most carefully into)he wants and conditions of 1 the population, or increase the means of employment? tho peopl e . He at that time opposed t he measure when 1 They had done no such thing, but, on the contrary, they debated by their Lordships, but when it became the law t bad by their poor-law of 1847, diminished employment. of the land, ho (Earl Roden) became chairman of the The first step then would be to improve the administration board of guardians, and was happy to state, that of the poor-law. The next step would be to get rid of the through the exertions of the guardians and the in- out-door relief system, and ho considered the improving dustry of the people, there existed a general satisfaction, the administration of the law would be the means of and the poor were materially benefited. There was this doing that. They must, however, separate the Poor difference between the poor-law in England and Ireland, law Commissioners from the Irish executive before any that in England the farmer paid his own rates, whereas good could be done. U ntil then the Boards of Guar in Ireland the tenant p a y s one -h a lf an d th e landlord the dians could not have any confidence in them. Had that remainder, and that all tenants holding ground under 4/. been done before, they would have never beard of the pay no rates, but the whole is paid by the landlord. He quarter-acre clause. He would, then, recommend an knew one landlord in Ireland whose rent-roll amounted equalisation of taxation over the whole of the United to 10,0001. per annum from ono estate, 2,000/. from an- Kingdom, and that they should treat Ireland as an other, from which were deducted for mortgages and English county. He concluded by saying, that he had other family claims, 9,5001., leaving him only 3,5001. per no faith in the project for the plantation of Connaught, annum, out of which he was obliged to pay 8001. per and that the improvement of the poor-law, and a proper annum for the poor-rates. Such was the case with many system of emigration, were, in his opinion, the only of the Irish landlords, which was never felt by available remedies for Ireland. English proprietors. In consequence of the failure of the The Marquis of CLA.NRICARDE said the remarks potato crop in 1845, the poor-law of 1835 was necessarily lof the Noble Earl who had just sat down must command altered for the purpose of empowering the poor-law respect from all sides of the House. He bad, however, guardians to afford out-door re lief to certain persons hoped that before he sat down he would have suggested under certain circumstances, and that alteration caused some remedy fur the awful distress which prevailed in actual consfication in some parts of that country. Again, Ireland, and to meet which the present measure was in 1847, whenlrisheifficulties were as great, if not greater, brought forward. That measure was not proposed as a than in 1845, attempts were made, and succeesfuly too, per manent measure, but sim p l y as a temporary measure both in private an d i n public, to avert those calamities; to meet an overwhelming emergency; and though it was and he should say, notwithstanding what had been stated said that the amount to be raised under the Bill would by some unworthy Irishmen, that the people of that bo insufficient, that was not the essential point in the country felt and acknowledged the deepest gratitude, case. There were two points to consider. First, there both to the Government and to the people of England, was an amount of distress in a portion of the empire for their generous sympathy on that direful occasion.— which it was painful to contemplat e, and the other was, (Cheers.) The object of this Bill, as far as he under- that it was thu duty of Parliament and of Ireland to stood, was rather to give power to the guardians to pay contribute for that distress. It was said it was un j ust I the debt lent by th e Exchequer, by selling the property to tax Ulster for that purpose; but where did they ever of the country, as well as to relieve the poor, and against hear of a tax but was in some instances unjust? Ire that he protested. land had long enjoyed exemption from a large Earl of CARLISLE—No, such is not the case. portion of taxation, and therefore Ulster had no Earl of RODEN said he would read the opinions of right to claim exemption in times of prosperity, while Mr. Butt on this Bill, and in those he (Earl Roden) fully she refused to contribute her just quota in times of dis concurred, for while they, the Irish landlords, were tress. The highest poor-rate mid in Ulster in any willing to submit to any taxation which was fair electoral division was 4s. 5 d. for the year ending Sep and just, they w ere at the same time de- tember 1848, and the average rate over the wh ole of the terminal to oppose so unjust and unnecessary province was Is. 11d. for the same period. He asked, a measure as the present. They were ready to submit could a landed proprietor or a farmer be reduced to to taxation, but it was not for them to specify what that pauperism by such a trifling rate, though he admitted taxation should be. He thought that Government should that there was since a higher rate than the average, of introduce a Bill for that purpose, and then the Irish 2s. 7d. in time pound. No ; such is not the cause of the Members of both Houses would support or oppose it as pressure of the Irish people; but it should be more they considered just; and he regretted to say that he justly attributed to the failure in the potato crops, and thought nothing could be more unconstitutional than for , it was to meet a recurrence of these calamities through her Majesty's Ministers to invite Members of the House this failure that this measure was necessary. It shouldiFee of Commons to private meetings on that subject, as had, also known to their Lordships that the people of England been lately done, It was in the performance of that would not contribute any more to the support of the Irish duty that he had risen, and he now objected to the mesa poor while there was property in that • country ex sure on four grounds; first, that it was unjust in prin. I empted from taxation which should go to the support eiPlet second, that it was inadequate to meet the objects I of their poor, and that m uch of that prestmern that proposed for it; third, that it would destroy the work- bore so heavily on the English people was owing in a trig of the poor-law; and fourth, that it would place the great measure to the want of a proper and judicious strongest argument in the mouths of those persevering system of emigration. He was a friend of such a de men in Ireland, whose object was to destroy all friendly scription cf emigration, and considered that nothing relations between the countries, by bringing ll o bollt a tended more to improve a proprietor's land than to ex peed some money id emigration; but he should, at the subsequent e reigns se-e(Dear, hear.) He should say same time.. say, should any Noble Lord come to their that he was g re: it l y ' aston i shed that the Irish re p re- House and ask for a large sum for emigration, that no- 1 sentatives in this 1 House had given up all ideas of any thing could be more wild or more unjust than such a other measure I is. a substitute ; for from the moment proposition. Ho knew from the reports of the emigre- that the income- tex obtained a character of rejection in don committee of New York, that emigrants from other their Lordships' 4 ;ominittee, then was all other expo p irts of Europe generally took money with them to that client and temporal y measures for Irish relief given up country, but that the contrary was always the caee with by them. When i t had beeet stated that there was no the Irish emigrant ; and he, moreover, knew that those security for those' grants implied in this-Bill, he (the Irish emigrants, by their exertions and their industry, Marquis of Lansd, owne) should say that they had the obtained as much as, was necessary to send for their security of. the reS mare itself ; that all money given in relatives at nome, and he, therefore. hoped their Lord- this 13111 would bet repaid, and that the object that the ships would pass this measure, as being calculated to 13111 had in view si ould be also effected.—(Llear, hear.) save thousands from an untimely and premature grave, He disagreed wi ti t the plan of wholesale emigration as who might at a future time, through their spirit of ad- a. safety-valve, for it would require much more ma venture and of travel, obtain comfortable means of living chinery, and s Lich an expensive mode of operation, in the country of their adoption. He admitted that the that it would lee totally impossible to carry such a •resolutions of their Lordships' Committee were against plan out. He , assured their Lordships that it was the Bill, but it should be at the same time considered the firm opinion of the Government in Council, that the second resolution was in favour of the practice that that Bill 'would relieve the awful and naelan of the Bill, that is, to relieve the people as immediately choly distress r iow so prevalent in the course of as possible, for the measure was by no means a perms- two years ; and though much truth might be con nent one. If their Lordships would grant this rate in tained in the aes ertion that they were working in the aid, he and the Government with which he was connected dark, ho should only say that they were unfortunately would guarantee that no money would b 3 expended un- compelled to de , so; and that, therefore, they could not less through the guardians, under the closest supervision before apply aney certain remedy to a disease whose of the Government. nature and chat aster they were totally ignorant of until Earl FITZ WILLIAM :did not think the measu re i t p ressed with a arming violence on the condition of the either adequate or just, and should, therefore, support Irish people. Be felt bound 'in the sight of God and the amendment.—[Here the Noble Earl entered into a man to adopt, .owing to these oppressive circumstances, comparison of the present state of Ireland, and its con- such a . course as would relieve this distress. He asked dition before the failure of the potato crop , and arg ued their Lordships •to give the second reading to the Bill. that Ireland was as much taxed as she could bear, and as it was by no a aesus of a permanent nature, and would as much as England herself.] Why should unions be before the lapse +et" two years effect the object of all their taxed in Ireland. more than in England ? Did they wishes. mean to repeal the union ? Did they mean to have Their Lordshi; pe then divided, when there appeared— copied in Dublin the example of the Hungarian Diet, in For the sc cord reading, Contents 4B • issuing a proclamation separating that country from the Non•-contents• Austrian empire? He was sure that the Government, T majority in introducing this measure, had no such intention, but Their Lordships then adjourned at a Quarter to Two. it was well to see that their acts did not tend that way. If - they rejected this measure he was sure that the 100,000!. to feed the starving people of Connaught would tied its way there all the same. With regard to the amount of the grant he would not pay the House of Commons so bed a compliment, as to suppose that it would not have given its consent to a grant double in magnitude to that which was submitted for its approbation ; but he thought that, in so fixing the sum, his Noble Friends forming the Government bad paid the House of Commons a bed compliment. He ob• jected to the measure, as being totally inadequate to the great emergency which called it forth. Unjust in its operation, but, above all, he objected to it on the ground of itseot containing any executory principle. lie ap proved of the extension of the income-tax to Ireland, and then he should propose that the relief of the dis- HOUS.N OF CO YIMONS, May 11. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock. THIRD READINGS. The London e .nd South-Western Railway (Extension of Time for th a Purchase of Lands and Completion of Works on the _Basingstoke and Salisbury and Fare tram and Alton I'd'ines) Bill was read a third time and passed. The Reading, Guildford, and Reigate Railway (Branch to Lend 'oil and South-Western Railway—Nu 2) Bill was read a. third time and passed. The Windsor Ex tension of the Windsor, Staines, and South-Western (11.4 Almond to Windsor) . Railway (with power to the Lori don and South-Western Railway Company to subwr,ibe) Bill was read a third time and pasted. • EDINBURGH 11ND GLASGOW RAILWAY. tressed unions should become a first charge on the re venue arising from the income-tax. Of this he telt the more persuaded, as the income-tax being once. esta blished in Ireland, the Government would have a direct The report on tb.e . Edinburgh and Glasgow Railway and Edinburgh and Glasgow Union Canal (Amalgama tiou,Tor Sale, or Le tuie of the Union Canal to the Rail way Cuinyany)Bili was brought up and agreed to. MORNINGSIDE. AND COLTNESS RAILWAY. interest in improving the value of ad property there upon which the tax would becoine chargeab'e., The people of Engines! would soon perceive, be thought, that the calamities of Ireland were more enduring than was supposed, and he was convinced that if they did not raise up the condition of the people of Ire land, the condition of the people of Ireland would pull down the condition of the people of England. -=- (Hear, hear.) Believing that if they were to reject this measure they would not cause the death of one more peuper in Ireland, he should not hesitete to support the umeodtnent of the Noble Earl opposite. The Earl ST. GERMANS sal that the distress of Ireland had not been, nor could it be, greater than it was at present; and believing that the object of the Bill was to supply immediate relief for it, it should have his earnest support. Lord MONTEAGLE felt that he was but discharging his duty in opposing this measure. With regard to the Irish Members, he thought it right to inform their Lordships that out of 105, the number of representatives sent to tee House of Commons by that country, 80 of them opposed this measure, and of the remaining num ber, come were not in their places in the House, and only 15 were found to be in favour of it. If he was asked, then, how this measure was carried in that House, his answer to their Lordships would be, that it was car ried by the overwhelming votes of the English Members, in an English House of Commons. Their Lordships should not give their support to a measure so unjust, with their oyes open. Would it be fair, in the face of such opposition from the great majority of the Irish Members, and of such a demonstration as was exhibited in the peti tions of the Irish people against the measure, to do so? He considered that the proposed rate in aid was as im• provident as it was unjust. He could not, upon this subject, avoid directing their Lordships' attention to a document which had been submitted on the question, as a basis for their Lordships to form their opinion upon, and he must say, a more erroneous document could not be. It was officially signed, and the party who prepared it took the whole rateable property of Ireland, as shown by a former valuation. The document assumes that 2.-!- T , per cent. would be produced by this tax. The parties who prepared the document had before them evidence that the property of Ireland, which they rated at 13,000,000/., had fallen from one-half to one-fourth, and they gave, ' as an estimate for their Lordships' guidance in the con sideration of this question, a former stater of things in Ireland. In the union of Scarier and Ennis, for instance, they had evidence that the property had fallen in value from 100,0001. a year to 60,0001. Now that was a fallacy for their Lordships to proceed upon. With respect to the advance of the 100,0001., he did not see what security there was held out for its repayment. Certainly he did not see any in the prospect from the rate in aid. In inflicting this rate in aid, their Lord ships would be doing a great wrong, and consummating a great injustice towards the industrious pants of Ire land. If the rate in aid was paid, it would be so reluc tantly; but if it was not, the non-payment would be ascribed to sectstrianiem and narrow-mindedness, so far as the people of Ulster was concerned. Government had better take care how they ruffled their feelings in respect of this rate in aid. He further said, this rate was unjust, and that injustice they were practising with their.eyes open. But ft was said the rate was only 6d. in the pound, and it was to be laid on only for two years. Once passed, it would be like the income-tax—it would be difficult to get rid of; once pass this measure, and he defied them not to extend the principle contained in it, should circumstances require it. If they passed the Bill, they would do so against the wishes of the people of Ireland, against the evidence taken before the Committees of both Houses of Parliament, and against tho votes of the Irish Members of Parliament. It was calculated rather to augment than repress the misery of Ireland; and if they persevered in the present course, not only would the waste land remain uncultivated, but the improved leads would become waste, for all the men of capital and skill and industry were fast leaving the country. The uncertainty of the legislation hid pro duced that effect, and unless they changed their system, the country would soon become desolate. He would therefore give his vote against the second reading of the Bill, as it could not afford the slightest benefit to the country. The Earl of GLENGALL suggested the adjournment of the debate; but there being cries of " Go on, go on," Lord AUDLEY rose, and was understood to support the motion. He had heard it stated that those who op• posed the measure did so in order to ehift burdens off their own shoulders; but he had no doubt that when the people of Ulster saw the necessity of doing something for the relief of the distress which prevailed, they would contribute most cheerfully. He conceived the measure ought to be accompanied with others; and was glad to see that it, had brew followed by the Incumbered Estates Bill. The Earl of WICKLOW said, upon what authority the Noble Lord affirmed that those who opposed the measures wished to shift burdens from their own shoulders he could not understand. It was not the fact, for every one who had opposed it bad shown the utmost readiness to pay all just demands which could be made upon them. All who had reasoned on this subject had stated as their opinion that the Bill could not be limited as to time or amount, and therefore if once passed would be permanent. It was said that it was because the re presentatives of Ireland could not agree as to whether they would have a rate in aid or the income-tax, but that was not the case; for along with the Income-tax the representatives of Ireland were told that they would be saddled with other taxes, and therefore they would give no reply. He would stipport the amend ment, because he heard no arguments from the Govern ment in favour of this measure which would convince him that it was better than any other substitute which ' might be brought in, even iie this session, for it was not too late at present. Lord AUDLEY explained. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that he consi dered that the Bill had been strongly and eloquently supported by his two Noble Friends, both in her Ma jesty's Council (the Earl of Carlisle and the Marquis of Clanricarde), although the contrary had been remarked; and he, for his part, wished to . state the grounds of his support, and what he expected from the measure. If this Bill were of a permanent nature, and he had sup ported it, ho should at once retract, because it would be, if permanent, in direct opposition to the principle of the poor-law; but it is because it was a temporary measure, and an expedient for the relief of Irish distress, that he would support it, and press their Lordships to do the same. Ho would ask their Lordships to consider the measure, for though he was told that it was unneces sary for her Majesty's Ministers to bring such a mea sure forward, yet he should say thatett the commence ment of this session some such measure was requisite, to obviate the difficulties arising from Irish distress From the time that some of the Irish Members depreci ated the grants of the Government to their country in a most ungrateful manner, it became the duty of the Go vernment to raise money in some way for this object,and, consequently, to raise it from those in that country who would be found able to contribute to the relief of the poor. He should also say io the Noble Earl (the Earl of Roden) that the resources of Ireland were not taxed to the same degree as those of England, and that, there fore, such a measure as the present was requisite for this purpose. The Right Rev. Prelate said that the people of Ireland should be made to work in such a / manner as to obtain their own living; but he (the, Marquis of Lansdowne) should say, what could they do without food, capital, or strength:to work? and that to attempt force, was, he con sidered, against the laws of God and nature. Under these circumstances, though ho acquiesced in the decrees of Providence, yet he should say, that it was their duty as Christians, in such transactions, to do as much as pos sible to mitigate and check that transition that arises from famine of the most awful character, sweeping away whole generations.—(Hear, hear.) When his Noble Friend (Earl Fitzwilliam) described the act of Govern ment, in ; convoking during the Parliamentary session a number of the Irish representatives of the House of Commous as a constitutional twaddle, he (the Mar. quis of Lansdowne) should say that that courao was net by any means unprecedented, as such frequently oteurrel in the reign of William and Mary,' sad in The report on the Edinburgh and Glasgow Railway. and Wilsuntown, ilorningside, and Coltness Railway Amalgamation Bil'i was brought no and agreed to. MARRIAGE V rITH A DECEASED WIFE'S SISTER. Mr. Mackenzie, Mr. Plumptre, Sir R. Inglis, and se veral other Mecuters presented numerous petitions against this Bill. ITER-HOUSES. Mr. BROTREEVON and scvcral other Mtmbers presented petitions against the increase of licenses to beer-houses from lii ry, in Lancashire, East Hurling, in Suffolk, and other pit Aces. REGISTRATION , OF MARRIAGE (SCOTLAND) BILL. - Admiral GORDON and several other Members pro• tented petitions agaii: st this Bill. ATTENDANCE (Y MEMBERS ON COMMITTEE. On the motion or. GREENE, who stated that no communication had been rtc:ived from Mr. Horsman, who way appointed too. sit upon the Committee of Group No. 18, or declaration of his inability to do so in conse quence of illness, as', requited by Order No. 90, it was ordered that a requiisitioa be sent to Mr. Horsman to attend the Committee on Monday next, at one o'clock. LORD RENDLESUAM. On the motion of Mr. GOOCH, leave was givat to Lord Rendlesham fi rt • one month's leave of absence. , NEW HOW ES OF PARLIAMENT. Sir H. WILLOU( +IIBY gave notice of his intention to ask a question as to the estimates of Mr. Barry for building the new Hon ses of Parliament, and as to whether the Royal Commissio n had any legal authority to Banc.. tion the alteration of the amount of such estimates. PARLIAME NTARY OATHS BILL. Mr. BANKBS asked whether it was the intention of the Noble Lord at tin e head of the Government to go into Committee upon the Parliamentary Oaths Bill on Mon day next? Lord JOHN RUSSELL replied, that it was his intention to take ',bat Bill on Monday. The only Bill which k tood before it on Monday was that with reference 13 the Irish grant, but he did not expect that it would, occupy long. Mr. V. SMITH' g ave notice, when the House went into Committee upot, it, , that he would move to omit all the words introduced into the oath by the Noble Lord. except those relating. to allegiance to the Sovereign and to the maintenance ref the succession to the throne. Mr. SPOONER gave notice that he would move the insertion of the wos .ds .t spiritual and ecclesiastical " into the oath. MARRIAGE BILL. Mr. S. WORTLEY said, as it was impossible for any private Member to conduct a Bill through the House without some assistance from the Government, he hoped that the Noble Lord (Lord John Russell) would make some arrangement for bringing on the adjourned debate upon the Marriage Bill, which had not originated with himself, but :had been urged upon him by a great body of the community, and was now looked upon with great public interest. The two principal Bills of the session—the Navigation Bill and the Rate•in-Aid Bill—had already passed the House, and as the other Bills before it were not of such vital importance, he hopel that the Noble Lord would give him one out of the Valve open da3, a next week. Sir Augustus Clifford summoned the House to appear in the House of Lords to hear the Royal assent givt n by Commissionto severa:tßilli (for which see Lords' report). On the return of the SPEAKER, Mr. STUART WORTLEY renewed his quostion-- . he asked the Noble Lord to afford him a day. on which he might be enabled to bring on the Marriage Bill. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said he had consented to the Hon. Gentleman bringing on the Bill yesterday, and had offered facilities to him for that purpose, believing that the debate would finitih yesterday. He could not con sent to put off burin ass of great importance, in order that a Government day might be assigned to the Hon. Mem ber. The Hon. Member must be aware that certain days were assigned to the Government for its business. He (Lord J. Russell) thought that the debate ought to be postponed until \Wednesday, the 6th of June; but it ap peared that some ocders had been fixed for that day. All he could suggest to him was, he should make some arrangement with some other Hon. Member. Mr. S. WORTLEY said no notice appeared on the book for Thursday, the 7th of June; he hoped, therefore, Hon. Members would give way to him on that day. Mr. J. O'CONNELL said, the Hon. Member spoke as if every Hon. Member thought the Bill an advisable one to adopt. Now he for one did not approve of it.— (Hear. bear.) They had lost one day already, and he should onposo any proposition of the kind suggested by the Hon. Member. Mr. ObtSuRNE acondei the motion. He then moved that the ThursdayS be taken from the Government, and given to the House; next, that motions have precedence of Driers of the day on all Thursdays; and further, that the debate be postponed until Thursday, the 14th of June; but the Hon. Member did not persist in any of them. Lord JOHN RUSSELL suggested that the question had better be adjourned till Monday. Mr. S. WORTLEY adopted the suggestion and post poned the motion till Monday, when ho should propose that the debate be resumed on Thursday, the 7th June. The motion was then withdrawn. ADJOURNMENT OF THE HOUSE. On tlieTiiestion.that the House at its rising do adjourn till Monday next, Mr. UORSMAN adverted to the report of the Committee of Selection finding fault with him for not answerir.g a communication from them. It bad always, been the custom for the clerk to write to Members, begging to know what period of the session would be most convenient for them to attend Committees► and that arrangement bad proved conducive to the convenience of all partie4.but in the present session that practice appeared to have been given up.—(No, no.) 'then he could only say, that he had been an untortu nate exception,, for had he received any notification of that sort, he should have replied that it would be incon venient for him to attend in the week beginning the 14th of May. He did not wish to shrink from any duty the House might impose upon him, but he felt that he had a right to complain of the omission which had taken place in this instance, which had put him to considerable inconvenience. The motion was then agreed to. STEAM COMMUNICATION WITH AUSTRALIA• In reply to Mr. SCOTT, Sir F. T. BARING stated that the subject of stelae communication with Australia was now under the COw sideration of the Admiralty. NAVY ESTIMATES. Captain BOLDER° _wished to ask the First Lord of the Admiralty when the report on the navy estimate s was likely to be brought up. The House ' no doubt, wa s aware that it had been postponed from day to day in consequence of the illness of the Lion. Member for Moo" trose, but when it was brought up it was his intention to make some observations upon the vote for the marine corps. • Sir F. T. BARING said the resolution had been re ported, but still the lion. and Gallant Member ghou l " have an opportunity afforded him for making his ob' servations. AUSTRIA AND HUNGARY. Mr. OSBORNE, seeing th e Nebl e Lord the Secret ar y for Foreign Affairs in his place, wished to ask him if Government had received any information of the ad ranee of the Russian army into the independent kingdom of Hungary.— (Laughter.) . He repeated the free and independent kingdom of Hungary.—(Laughter.) very likely Hon. Gentlemen who laughed were not conversant with the history of Hungary.—(Laughter.) Secondly, was there any treaty in existence by which this country war, bound to resist the entrance of Russian troops into Hungary ; and lastly, w h et h e r Ministers bad any wish or intention of mediating between the Emperor of AO' trim and the free people of Hungary.—(Laught er.) son' Lord PALMERSTON, in reply to the first ques said he had received in!ormat ion that da y from Vienna, that an application for military assistance in the war bF a : tweet) Austria and Hunpry bad been made by Austr_i_ to the Russian Government, and that that applioaia n . had been assented to, and viaa goiog to bo 001:0PliedrT. •