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' l lt ar• oL• A , deal with that important subject, promotions in the army; and as to thnsecond, he thought it had been proved by Sir Northcote that it would be nugatory. He denied that flirt Layard intended by his motion a direct vote of want of confidence in the Government, and, after citing the opinions of official persons as to the effects of patronage in the civil service, ho justified the course of action denomi nated "the Goderich pledge," thinking, he said that in the war with patronage the members of that house should perform their part. The allusion in Mr. Leyard's motion to the manner in which family connexions were allowed to influence appointments, and to the evils of such influence, he thought justified by circumstances. He admitted that a Minister would encounter great risks in endeavouring to defeat or nullify this influence; he might even be removed from his office; but no sacrifice could bo more noble than one incurred in the endeavour to reform and render effi cient the public service. Mr. F. PEEL said, after . the statement of the noble lord that the speech of the hon. member for Aylesbury had not yet received any reply from the Government, ho hoped the noble lord would not feel surprised, or feel it to be any want of courtesy towards him, if he passed by the vague speech which the noble lord himself had just made, and proceeded at once to reply to that portion of the speech of the hon. member for Aylesbury relating to the adminis tration of the army. By far the greater portion of the hon. member's speech was confined to criticising the existing system of administration in the army, and he condemned in no measured terms the principle upon which he alleged, but most erroneously alleged, promotion in the army was regulated. Favouritism, family influence, and every other sort of influence except the right influence, regulate the patronise° of the army according to the hon. member, and to show that such was theimpression which the hoe. mem ber's speech was calculated to create, let him recall to their recollection the fact that the hon. member distinctly stated that men who worked hard in the army, or rendered- good service to theirlcountry, weroallowed to remain unrewarded instead of being encouraged to pursue the honourable and us fill career to which they were devotine themselves, while men who did nothing at all, or when they had the opportunity of doing something would not avail them selves of it, were taken by the hand at the Horse Guards and raised to the highest posts in their pro fession. Now, if the hon. gentleman had contented himself with a general statement of that sort, he should have at once met that statement, which he should have felt himself perfectly warranted in doing, with a simple con tradiction; but the hon. gentleman hose to pursue a dif ferent course. The hon. gentleman followed up his gene ral assertion by going into particular cases ; and of course it could hardly be expected that be should reply to the hon. gentleman the same evening, because he knew nothing whatever of the cases which he cited. The hon. member told them that out of 90 officers who had been rewarded for distinguished services in the East only 30 were regi mental officers. [Mr. Layard—Ouly 25.] The hon. mem ber referred to a Parliamentary return to support his erro /eons statement, but he should have been more cautious in his qnotations after his previous experience in that re spect, because although it was write true that in the re 'him which he quoted there were 60 staff officers and only 30 regimental officers shown to have been promoted, it should yet have been observed that the return was made on the 13th of March, just three months ago, while at the foot of the return there was a note to the effect that the General Commanding-in-Chief was expecting to receive a further list of the names of majors and captains of regi ments who had been engagedin action or had distinguished theriaselves in the trenches, and who bad been promoted for such services. (Hear, bear,) Now, if the hon. member aspiring to lead the country had b :en anxious not to de ceive, or to state the case fairly, he would have gone to him and inquired whether the return referred to in the note had been received, or whether the distinctions, which on the 13th of March last were stated , as about being con- 1 ferred, had been actually conferred or not. (Hear, hear ) Within a month or so after the r- turn was made the Ge neral Commanding-in-Chief di 1 receive that list of regi mental officers,' and it would be found in the Gazette of the 24th April last. It was a list of captains promoted to the rank of major, and majors to the rank of brevet lieutenant colonels, and if that list were added to the one in the re turn, it would be found that the promotions had been four times as many as represented by the hon. member. (Hear.) Re might state, in conclusion, that 64 staff-officers and 135 regimental officers had been rewarded for their services in the East. The hon. gentleman had referred to the case of Colonel Wilson, but the real question for consideration in that case was, whether Col. Wilson should purchase his own commission, or whether it should have been purchased for him by the relatives of a deceased officer, Col. Mackinnon. (Hear, hear.) Colonel Wilson had put down his name for Purchase in consequence of two officers above him having withdrawn their names for purchase, and stated that they would take their chance of obtaining promotion by casual ties. The object of Colonel Wilson was to gat over the heads of those two officers, but it happened that by the casualties of war vacancies were created by death, and those tw o officers succeeded in getting their promotion before Colonel Wilson. The hon. gentleman then addressed him self to the case of regiinental appointments, and, iu illus tration of hie meaning, divided the cases into two clas.e.i, one with and the other without interest. He named in the first class five officers, four of whom were relatives of Lord tiartlinge—namely, the Hon. Arthur Hardinge, his son ; Major Hardinge, his nephew; Colonel Wood, a relative by marriage; and Colonel Conyngham, his son-in-law. In referring to the case of the Hon. Arthur Hardinge, the hon. member referred to the existence of an order whereby it was directed that an officer should not be appointed aide-de-camp until he had served two years, and stated that in the case of the Hon. Arthur Hardinge that order had not been observed. The order to which the lion. mem ber referred was enforced at home, but abroad and in India it was dispensed with in the case of the governor-general's staff and in the case of the general officer commanding when the army was in the field. With respect to the case of Colonel Wood, ho had been assistant quartermaster- general at the Horse Guards, and when the deputy quar termaster-general became vacant in Dublin, he -succeeded to the vacant office, he (Mr. Peel) would not say according to established custom, hut in accordanco with a course of proceeding for which a great number of precedents could be cited. As to the case of Col. Couynghatn, he might ob serve that he had been acting since the commencement of war as assistant adjutant-general of the first division of army, lied been present in all the battles, and never was ;ent from his post, and in every instance the description appointment recently conferred on him carried with it • step of local rank. The hoe. gentleman complained et his being made a major-general, but it should bo recollected that Colonel Hardinge was twenty-five veers in th e serv i ce , a nd the complaint was inconsistent after the statement made the other night by the hon. member him self with respect to the ages.of the generals in the Pepin • sular war. (Hear, hear.) The hon. member then referred to th e case of Captain or Major Selby Smith to the office of deputy-quartermaster at the Cape. That was not an ap pointment which in all probability Lord Harding° would have made himself, but in making it he had yielded to the representatioors of General Jackson—the officer responsible for the tranquillity of Cape Colony—and who, in antici pation of Colonel Kloete's requisition, recommended Major Selby Smith shOuld lee appointed to that office. That officer bad obtained the brevet rank of lieutenant, but the hon. member was mistaken as to the effect of that brevet promotion. The hon. member said the first step he had received placed him over the head of the senior major of his own regiment, while the second step placed him over the liutenant-colonel of his regiment. Now the fact really was, that the brevet rank obtained by this officer did not in any way alter his relation to the regiMental officers of his regiment. He (Mr. Peel) had now disposed of the first of the two classes to which the hon. member had re ferred ; and he would now refer to the class that hail, ac cording to the hon. member's statement, been neglected for so long a time. (Hear, hear.) The first case he stated was that of Lieutenant Buck, who Was one of those officers Nebo had suffered from the system of purchase. (Hear, Lear) He had no means to purchase, and had crept slowly through th e g r a de of lieutenant, but he was now senior l ieutenant, and if his regiment should be sent to the seat of war, and raised from twelve to sixteen com p anies, he Would, as a matter of course, be appointed captain of one of the new companies without purchase. The next caso to which the honourable member had referred was . the ease of Lieutenant Edwards, who had served in the lee -4lnsular war, and been engaged on several occasions. At the conclusion of the war Limit. Edwards was placed on the a half-ep y list in 1818, and there he had since remained, With the exception of about seven years, (luring which be was on full pay. It was complained that he did not get an unattached company, and there was no dispositi on to g ive such an appointment when it became vacant; but he a pprehended it would not be for the interest of L ieutenant Edwards to get that promotion, because he is adj utant of the recruiting district of Liverpool, and tha t situation, accordi ng to the regulations, could only be held by a lieu tenant. The next was the case of Captain Carruthers , wh o ad been refused a brevet -majority, to which he was re commended by General Cathcart. He was en officer who had been placed on half-pay in 1818, and, with the excep gcl:of fiv e y ears , h a d been on - half pay from that time to ; but in the year 1842 lie was appointed brigade-major t'aleetown. the Kafir) admitted that it was proba te that when the war broke out the duties of this Of ficer were l a rgely increased ; but when at the ter mination . this w ar a ppli ca ti on w as made by General C ethcart to I Hardinge, to confer the honorary distinction of bre 2t-rnajor upon him, Lord Hardinge, considering that he Zas 600 miles from the st of war, and that liehtel never "en in British Kaffraria, ea thought that such a distinction o ught rather to be conferred upon officers personally en gaged with the enemy, than upon a man who, however W ell he had performed his duties, was not in the field. The nett case to which the bona member had referred was the eft " of Lieutenant Daniel, and the complaint was that he has refused an unattached company without purchase. It A ppeared f rom a memo randum which he had received from r Home Guards that Lieutenant Danie l had retired from th e 94th F oo t, th en in India and about to return home , t e) the 75th Regiment, and that he had received, as is cus ehmarY in such cases, pecuniary compensation for ema k ing e exchange. He then came to England, and applied for Promotion, and it was thought necessa r y before g ivin g it t aide for some explanation about the exchan g e he had made.i7n.slved sum Lieutenant Daniel admitted that he had re a Bu of money for effecting the exchan g e, and h _lvaa of cou rse impossible to promo te an of who just m a d e a profitable arra ngem ent with regard to commission. (Hear, hear.) The hon. gen tleman also de charges wish respect to the appointmen ts on the staff h • Be h a d h ear d th a t officers were on the s taff who !td not rece i ve d cer tifi ca t es a t S an dh urs t. Ho' (Mr. Peel) in t ! not cons id er th a t suc h a cer tifi ca t e ought of itself to be sidered as a satisfactory proof of qualification. The h 2 ,12, gentleman's next complaint was. that whilst som e co lonels o f reg i men t s , lik e C o l one l s Y or k e an d Garrett, had'verts. acting temporarily in the Crimea as brigadiers, two been appointed to hold that rank at Malta who had I V seen any service at all—Colonels Williams and Romilly. "'J. the truth was, that one brigadiership was just as E ft ° es another, and there was no difference in point of I lletenlity; but did the hon. gentleman suppose that if the a nd appointments hail been offered to Colonels Yorke Williams;re Garrett they would have been accepted? Colonel was one of the oldest colonels of his rank in the et,t:ioc, and Colonel Romilly had been filling the office of fof the provisional battalion at Parkhurst, one quite issrlogwa i l l aons tO the chargeen he now hel at altae a en himself a proficit in its duties, and M at ; th was the reason e why he had been sent to Malta. ( Hear.) 6 iteh regard to honours conferred by the Commander-in rpni f, he asked if they had been given with the object of tu ding such officers as had greatly distinguished thorn selvesy? These honours, in the case of officers of high rank, is Tr 0 the c'olonelcies of regiments. He f ound that four Ilerleise had been conferred since the breaking out of the r.ote young major-generals for services performed and et elencti on obtained in the campaign of the Crimea--Bir t 'lin Campbell; Sir Richard England, Major-Generals ee e tt u r ti . nck and Pekenhaui. (Hear.) Again, bow had Lord dinge filled up the new companies created by the ftiwould be thanbe l gtnentation of the regiments of Foot Guards 'r It w admitted that no situations were m o re sough t, after commissions in the Guards , an d if there reo any disposition to abuse patronage ther e wo uld be an e t Portunity for doing so in this case. Half the additional °ll l Paniee raised were suffered to go in the separate bat aple the other , half were not given in that way, brit - ""re from the lino were brought in ancl - plitcod at their 1 . , l i s ~~ 'T 5 head. (Hear.) In every instance the officers so brought in ware persons who had seen good and diAinguished ser vice either in India, the Cape, or the Ctitnea. (Hear.) He believed he had now ; one over every instance alleged by the hon. gentleman of the vices and evils of the present system ; and he would briefly notice the measures of re . form propouuded by him. The hon. gentleman said that iu the first place we must abolish the system of promotion proposed that, as 2,500 of the exist frm o Lord Harding() downwards, h a d i b n y g p c u o r tu cts s e s , io t he been given without purchase, we should not in future al low any officer who . had so received it, to sell his commis sion. He had given his best consideration to the plan thus . suggested, and he could nut see that it could be adopted without affecting vested interests, as the hon. gentleman contended. Suppose the case of a lieutenant-colonel wish ' jug to retire, who had received his ensigncy, say 20 years before, without purchase. He had been so appointed on the understanding that he would have the opportunity and a I vantage of selling out, if he lived, and he (Mr. Peel) could not see how such an officer could be deprived of the right he had to a realisation of the pecuniary value of the commission without a disturbance of his vested interests. (Hear.) The hon. gejetleman then said that we must edu cate the staff, and allow no person to be appointed to it who had not gone through a certain course of study. He was not disposed to deny that there was value in that sug gestion, but he thought ho might pass it by without no tice, because the point was at that moment under the con sideration of a committee of that house, appointed to in quire into the system pursued at the Military College of Sandhurst, and presided over by the right hon. baronet the member for Portsmouth. The hon. gentleman endea voured to attribute our misfortunes to the public appoint ments which had been made, but the report o f th e com mittee of inquiry inculpated the system, and not indivi duals. He olid not believe that any one who succeeded the Duke of Newcastle in his office would-have consented to accept it if he had been tied up from making such reforms as he held to be necessary, and required to exercise, the functions with the same limited authority. Though he could not teisent to the resolution, he wag as favourable to the appointment of properly qualified men for the public serviea as its most zealous adherent could be. Mr.H.DRUMMOND criticised the terms of the motion, which chiefly consisted of assertions which were open to question. In reference to the speech of Mr. Lindsay at Drury-lane, he reminded him of his having been had up for not having sent out some Australian emigrants with whom he had contracted. He did not mean to enter into that I question, but it was not too much to say that the hon. gentleman could not have displayed much administrative ability or he would not have been so had up. Mr. Layard ' had said there was a run against him in that house, but it was not the fact. Whateverhe bad received he had brought on himself, but he and his friends had hounded down a Mr. Walker and his friends at Drury-lane, because he did not quite agree with them in opinion. Ha referred to the adulterations of food to show the purity and innocence of the middle classes, and to the East India Company to ex hibit the perfection of governmeut—a government by mer chants, who were wholly guiltless of an - , thing like job . bsry ! He could not see what was to be gained by voting for either the motion or the amendment, for the cry on • which they were founded was a delusive ono, which was perfectly unintelligible. Mr. JOHN MACGREGOR said that the house had lost sight of the true course of proceeding. They ought to act on the lessons of past experience. The Government were no w in the same prodicamentas their predecessors were from 1744 to 1750, when the King was compelled to send for Mr. Pitt, whom he mortally hated. He would take upon himself to tell bold truths, and to " boll the cat" on this occasion. When Mr. Pitt held the seals of office he would not al low any of the offices of the State to be filled by any but efficient men. Since that time the British empire had increased threefold in poWer and consequence ; and now, who was at the head of the Government? A noble lord of the greatest ability, and in whom he had the greatest confidence. But he believed that he was not permitted to rule with the freedom and with the power possessed by Mr. Pitt. He then came to the Colonial-office. He believed that that office was now filled by as able an administrator as ever occupied it. He also believed that the Foreign office had an able head ; and he had also no doubt that if the right hon. baronet at the head of the Home-office had health and strength ho would be perfectly competent to manage the affairs of that department. He now came tO India. Aud he had no hesitation in saying that the coun try was perfectly astounded when a gentleman without a single follower and of no prestige in the house was en trusted with the awful destinies of India. He believed that the Admiralty would be .presided over by the right hon. baronet opposite (Sir C. Wood) with the same saga city and ability which distinguished his career as secret try in that department. It was true that that right hon. baronet was not so popular as some other men either in that house or in the country. (Laughter.) But the rea son of that was that he had too much of the bluntness of au honest Englishman to he either evasive or truckling. (Hear, and laughter.) Ho denied that there was any feel ing in the country against the aristocracy, but he could not deny that there was dissatisfaction at the attention which appeared to have been paid to the claims of con sanguinity in the formation of the Ministry, nor that there was an opinion abroad, that the noble lord had been obliged to yield to a superior influence in filling up the great offices of State. There was no country, he was sorry to say, in which the mere fitness of a man for high office was so little considered as in England. LENDSA.Y explained some inacouracies into which Mr. Layard had fallen with respect to the promotion of Lord Eustace Cecil and Mr. Blackett. Mr. J. PHILLINIORE thought the principle of com petition could not be introduced into the 'civil service. Ho was a friend to definite reform, and it was because ho was so that he would vote against the motion of Mr. Layard, which had nothing definite about it. Mr. DISRAELI—I should not have deemed it necessary to say a word in support of the amendment of my ItoM friend the member for Hertfordshire, had it not been for some remarks made in the course of the debate, especially one made by my hon. friend the member for East Surrey (11r. Drummond), who, with the humour in which he ex cels, sneered at the phrase " administrative reform," to which he said he for one could annex no meaning and of which he doubted whether those who used the phrase could favour him with a definition. As I think I was the first who used the expression in this house, it becomes me not to shrink from assuring him that I think it is an expres sion capable cf definition, one to which I annex a very pre cise meaning, and one which I think expresses a principle that, if acted on, may be most beneficial to the State. The right hon. gentleman the Chancellor of ;the Exchequer di lated upon the improvements which have for some years been made in the public service, and did me the honour to acknowledge that tintin. , the period when the Government of Lord Derby were in office they were not remiss in ex ertions to improve the public service. The right hon. gen tleman the member for the University of Oxford (Mr. Gladstone) still more amply and liberally acknowledged that during the time the administration of Lord Derby was in power steady and rapid progress—l think those were the words he used—was made in efforts to render the public service mote efficient. Now, I may be permitted to tell my hon. friend (Mr. Drummond) that think that such measures are measures of administrative reform. The right hon. gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer and the member for the University of Oxford would have the house to infer that in the measures which we adopted, especially in regard to the departments connected with the adminis tration of Ireland, we followed precedents which had been set before us. I would take the liberty of stating that the course we adopted in issuing commissions to examine into the several departments .of the pubiic service was not influenced by these precedents, however reputable. The fact is that, pitevious to our accession to office, a very significant event had occurred, which had more influence upon our conduct, and must have had more influence upon that of any Government than any precedents which might have been found in the public odium. Before we arrived tc office the extraordinary scandal respecting the adminis tration of the Customs hat taken place, and the circum stances attending it had been examined into by a committee of this house, which made a report, with which no doubt :many hon. members were familiar. It devolved upon,uS to consider what. was the measure which we thought compe tout, in a remedial sense, to deal with sucha state of aff drs. and which, had our Government continued, would have been almost the first we should have submitted to the house. It was in examining that important subjeet that our attention was naturally attracted to consider the ad ministration awl management of all branches of the public service. It was impossible to resist the conc?usion that the public offices required considerable change, and that they weie not as efficient as a country in the condition of Eng land had a right to requite. We strived at the conclusion that the changes associated with what is now called admin istrative reform were changes which were imperatively re quired, and which no Government could long continue without originating and carrying out. Another cause that led us to that opinion was, the:, we thought the system of taxation required considerable alteration to render it mere just. To effort the changes we contemplated it was our in terest to have the largest possible surplus. 'Therefore we were au volts to consider whether we could not increase it by making all practical and judiciouseconomies in the public ; service. We had not long investigated the question before we perceived that efficiency was the true parent of economy and that in considering what was efficient we should ob tain more surely the economical results and the reduction of expenditure which we desired to secure. It was with these feelings that we applied to my noble friend the in - bur for Buckingham(the Marquis otChandos),and requested hint to make that revision of the Irish departments which has boon several times inferred to in the course of this de bate. My noble friend undertook that operation with no limit as to expenditure, and only one instruction, which Was to render the Irish service as efficient as he possibly could. With these views he, with the present accountant general of the navy, undertook the revision of the chief secretary's office, the Irish Privy-Council office, and the Irish office in this country. The consequence of the reforms effected was to place these offices in the most efficient state, and at the same time to obtain a reduction of expen diture to the amount of 25 per cent. After that experi ment, and after due consideration, the Government of Lord Derby resolved to bring under the consideration of the helm, as soon as it was in their power, the whole ques tion of administrative reform. On this occasion I aril most ,careful not to speak of the mere intentions of the Govern ment. lam not now pretending to express to the house what was all we intended. I scrupulously confine mysel to measures of which, as the organ of the Government, I had given notice in my place in this house. It was our intention, as I then stated, after tke measures we were then concerned with were settled—if they had been favour ably settled-4o have brought under the consideration of the house the whole question of administrative reform, with the view of rendering the public administration of the country more efficient, and the public service in all de partments more consonant with the requirements of the are I should have stated the reforms which we thought should take place in the civil service, and that we hail re commended her Majesty to issue a royal commission to in quire into the conduct of all the public departments of the State, and from the teport of that commission we should have drawn those regulations which we thought were.neces 4ary to effect the regulati ons, and should have had them :sanctioned and enforced by an act of Parliament. Listening tq the alterations which have been devised on all shies,. it. appears tie me that it is the course which should have pre ceded all suggestions; because the first thing we want is to learn how the public service can bo carried on in the most efficient manner. I think I have shown that there is some thing definite to be associated with the phrase "adminis trative reform." Had we remained in office, we should have had the honour of introd acing two measures of administrative reform which have been sanctioned by the Government which followed us. One was the measure for the better, ad ,ninistration of the Customs. Surely the hon. member for .Elaospttirrieny r w eg il a l r n d ot to pr t e h te e nt s l ub t j h e a c t t the measure which was ~ was not a measure of " administrative reform." Another measure of " adminis trative reform," for which the county y was indebted to the Government o Lord Derb althouoh we had not the ho nour of passing it, is the lAsere in accordance with which 'he gross ,revenue of the country is to be paid into, the Ex chequers-a measnro of which I had g i ve n notice, and which the - right - hon, gentleman Who succeeded me oglied wits the the Hof gi our assistance through this house. That is a measure of reform, because without it yon con! I never have had complete public account, without which all administrative reform must be illusory. Therefore I have shown that this phrase is ono which, so liar as I and those with whom I act are concerned, isassociated with practical rneasuresof great advantage to the public, which ought, in my opinion, to receive a much larger development than has hitherto been promised. In the course of this debate wo have heard a great deal about changes which ought to be introduced into the civil service of this country. I should be very sorry if for a moment I could be induced to defer to a public cry which I did not believe to be justified, or if I could under such circumstances be induced to express any opinion on this subject which I was not prepared to express , nearly three years ago in a much more responsible position. I scrupulously refrain from expressing on this subject other Opinions, if I entertain them, than those which I was then prepared to produce for the adoption of the house. I was then of opinion, and have since had the opinion confirmed, that great changes are necessary in the civil administration of this country. In the first place, I sun of opinion that the entrance into that service should not be by mere favouri tism. I think it should be the subject of a substantial and real test of fitness ; and I think the idea of a substantial and real test of fitness is not illusory, but essentially prac tical. I think, in the second place, that the rewards of out public civil servants should be on a higher scale. (Home) I think that the result of the change will be public eco nomy, and not increased expenditure. I think that the rewards of the public set vanta should not be merely of a fixed nature, but teat they should bo trained to look upon . other and more spirituel rewards which animate and en noble the conduct of men. lam also of opinion that the civil service of the country ought to bo made, and must be made, strictly and completely professional, and the great offices of the State should be reserved for public ser vants who have been trained and educated in the perma nent civil service. (Hear, hear.) These are what I think sound and judicious changes. They are changes of admi nistrative reform. They are changes which I think every Government ought to adopt and carry out, and nothing short of this ought to satisfy the house. They are changes which I advocate, not in deference to any popular clamour, but which I was prepared to advocate when it was difficult even to get tho house to adopt such a recommendation. The result of these changes, in my opinion, would have been au improvement of the public service, a greet advan tage to the country, and a prevention of much of those evils of maladministration which we have had recently to lament. (Hear, hoar.) Sir, I am still of opinion that, although you may by these changes elevate the tone of the public eercice, although you may obtain a high degree of talent, although you may reward in a becoming manner that high degree of talent, although the general results of that change will bo satisfactory, salutary, and successful - still the first step which you ought to take is to obtain from high authority a clear and distinct idea of the most efficient manner in which the public sin viee can, in all its departments, be conducted, and when you have obtained ,that, you ought to devise the means by which that idea can be carried into effect. Sir, I know no mode by which this information can be obtained but by issuing aroyal com mission of practical men—of men who have arrived at high posts in the civil service—who have shown great administra tive talent, mixed and blended, as all such commissions should be, with a certain po'rtion of the political experience , and statesmanlike ability which can be found in the house of Commons. See lain persuaded, if the commission which we had meditated—if the commission had been formed of such individuals as we should have recommended her Ma • josty, much of the evils which we have had to deplore would not have occurred. With these views, which those with whom I act were prepared to carry into effect a long time ago, I am called on to-night to consider the motion of the hon. member for Aylesbury. That motion, as I read it, is one which, far from embodying the policy which I would recommend the house to adopt, is one which very indifferently meets the wants which I have indicated to the house this evening. It calls on me also to assent to en assertion which I most sincerely cannot give my assent to. I em called upon by the resolution to agree that the ineffi ciency which we all deplore is attributable to the manner iu which merit and efficiency is sacrificed in public ap pointments, to party and family interest, and blind ad herence to routine. I think I have shown to-night, and on other occasions, that I am no blind adherent to routine in the public offices. lam conscious I think of deficiencies and failures, and I am prepared to remedy them if oppor tunity offers by any measure equal to the occasion; but I cannot agree that the disasters of the country have been occasioned by a blind adherence to routine in the public service, or by any want of administrative talent or defi ciencies in the public offices. It is more than possible, I think it is quite possible, that the public service may be improv. d, and much of its routine modified and altered, bat I should be expressing what I do not believe if I at tributed to the public service disasters which I can only attribute to a culpable Ministry—(cheers)—to a Ministry which the House of Commons, by an overwhelming ma jority, only a few months ago declared incapable, and which a report this evening such as never before was read in the House of Commons, states, as the result of the mature in vestigation of men selected with no reference to party opi nion—of some of the most eminent men of this house— that they sanction the former verdict of the house. (Hear.) It would be a miserable subterfuge in the last degree to say that the misgovernment of the country is the consequence, of a few inadequate c erks—(hear, hear)—and that unless the routine of the public offices be altered—although no one is more conscious than I am of the iinprevemeuts of which the public service is sueceptible —I say it woul I be base hypocrisy to attribute to it the causes of those disas ters, when an overwhelming majority of the House of Com mons, when a committee of the house, after is period of almost unprecedented investigation, has declared that they are the co sequences of the incapacity of the Government. (Cheers.) 1 setribute these disasters, as the house and as great portion of the nation does, to the existence of a Cabinet which, although formed of men of great ability and political experience, was not bound together by.public sympathy, and reciprocal and private regard, which are essential to render any Cabinet a euccessf al administration. Irrespective of all other considerations I think it most unwise, by supporting such a motion as this, to use it as a means of conducting from a Government which ought to be responsible, and of which every member will sooner or later be made responsible - I say it is most unwise to use such a motion as a means of conducting public indignation from a Government wince has yet to answer for deeds of failure and disasters which it has consummated and secured to itself. (Hear, hoar.) This being the case, the boa. baronet the member for Harts (Sir L. .13 Lytton) has proposed a resolution which in soy opinion accurately eta bodies what this house ought to feel on this subject. It does not come forward and in exaggerated language tell you that all the misgovernment and misconduct which has so filtddened the spirit of the country for so long a period, is to be attributed to a system of administration which has prevailed for so long a time, and which, with all its shorteornings, has accomplished so many successes, and achieved so many glories. (Cueers ) It does not come forward with assertions which cannot be pi oved in any way, and ask us, in deference to popular clamour, to sanction such a declaration with our vote ; but it expresses, in lan guage which I think is definite and precise, in language which I think will be justified by proof, and will be sanc tioned by the bouso, and meet with the mature approbation of public opiuien— which states the real state of affairs, and what the real wants of the country do indeed require. It calls for a careful revision of the various establishments of th 3 country, and it tolls us the views with which that careful revision ought to be conducted ; it tells us the ob jects which that careful revision ought to attain—namely, to simplify and facilitate the transaction of public businea. That is precise, and that is administrative reform. Let me remind the hou. member for Surrey (Ur. H. Drummond) that it tells us to institute as judicious test of merit—that we ought to remove obstructions to fair promotion and legitimate rewards. Is tells us that we ought to secure to the State a large available proportion of the energy and talent of the country. These are recommendations to which I give my entire adherence, and which precisely ex press the course which the Government of Lord Derby was prepared to recommend. If you pass this amendment — and I am told it is to be passed with the assent of Govern ment—let the house be careful that this amendment, if taken by Government, is not used its a mere machine to avert from them the consequences which would resultfrom eerrying the motion of the hon. member for Aylesbury, but that the Government take it in the spirit of sincerity and truth so imperatively recommended by the House of Commons. (Hear, hear.) Let the Government be pre wed, if they adopt it, to act on it in the spit it of truth I say, if Government act in that way, they ought to take the same efficient steps that we were prepared to take, iu order to ascertain how the public business and all the pub lic offices can be carried on in tbo most efficient manner. They ought to issue a commission, and from its report draw up ,egulations for the conduct of the publ'a t•ffices, and to call upon the House of Commons to sanction those regulations by an act of Parliament, and, above all, to preserve every public °flies from the caprice and wilful ness of any political chief who may be placed at its head. I am not prepared to recommend any measures but in the spirit in which I have spoken ; and if we obtain that which I have ventured to sketch to-eight, you may rely upon it that great advantages will accrue to the country; but let those advantages be obtained with the utmost respect to the existing institutions of the country, and in a manner which need not alarm the most timid. Ido not pretend by any fanciful machinery you can entirely destroy the evils consequent upon what is called favouritism or the exercise of patronage. Sir, I think when you have to consider this subject you must place any evils which may result from the exercise of patronage as the countervailing evils of having power exorcised by those who aro responsible to responsible representatioes of a free people. The countervailing advantages aro in my mind so preponderating that I would not risk them for what may he only a fanciful, and, perhaps, Utopian result. Sir, if you secure, as I believe you may secure, that the entrance into the public service of this country should be sought, not by the least competent of a family, but by the most competent in it—(hear, hear)—if you snake the qualifice • tion for that entrance the fitness which is the result of in telligence and the moral qualities which are requisite—if you do this, anti in addition to this secure to the success ful aspirant an honourable and sufficiently remunerative professional career, you may rely upon it that the men who enter into the civil a ‘rvice will he equal to the occa sion and to the opportunity. Entering by merit, they must use by merit ; but thejudges of merit in the higher walks of the service must be the Ministers of the Crown, and it must not be loft to any fanciful system of compeli• tion—(Hear, hear)—which Ithink is utterly foreign to the manners, customs, and genius of a country like our own. (Hear, he:x.) Why, sir, when I hear of public appoint ments being made independently of the Ministers of the Crown, I run bound to ask myself what is the meaning of a Minister bf the Crown if he is not to appoint the most fitting mon to public employments. We are not told that Mr. Pitt said to somebody whose name is never mentioned that he had never in tbo course of his long political career put the right man in the right place. We heard the tote other day that a deceased Prime Minister, whom we all recollect, was afraid to open a letter lest he should hear of the death of a bishop. That I believe has been mentioned as the feeling of a pure and patriotic spirit, but I look upon it as the trait of an indolent and epicurean mind. (Cheers.) Why, sir, what is the first qualification of a Prime. Minister ? It is not Ministerial talent, for he has to look out for Ministerial talent in all his colleagues. It is rather the perception of character and the knowledge of mankind. It is the duty, and one of the highest duties, of a Prime Mini ter, to take care that the country has pious bishops and wise judges, and in the highest offices of the State the most able and qualified men to discharge the functions of these offices. I say that is the most important office which the Prime Minister can exer cise, an t that is one of the chief reasons why he exists. I say that you may senior, as you ought to render, the en trance into the civil service of the country a step only practicable to those who are really competent to eater it, and that you may have, as you ought to have, in my opi .aion, a complete and efficient test of fitness from a properly planned and independent board of examiners; that you ,right to render the civil service a complete profession, and to offer to it not only those rewards which are offered In all other professions, but those rewards, of another and a higher character, which induce men to exert themselves, and reward them for such exertions; that you ought, above all, to take care that the great places in the civil eer- vice aro secured to those who have been trained in it. With these conditions, I say you must leave the exercise of the patronage, as it is called—thet is, the choice of the fitting instruments cr the choiceeof the right man—you must leave it, I say, to the men in eminent positions, who only occupy those positions for the purpose of - selecting. the most lite ting persons, and of taking care thlit the best qualified should b 3 secured to the service of the State. I have yen ! tured to-night, in ne spirit of boastfulness, but with seine desire to do justice to those who acted with me in 1852, to vindicate the course we would have taken in that matter. I think I have a right to exact from the. Government-some assurance and some security that we should at least obtain las much, and that if they do shield theniselves from the injurious and inconvenient consequences of motions from administrative reformers, by adopting the wise and judi i cious amendment of my honourable friend, they will act on that recommendation, that they will net treat it as the ' convenient motion of thu hour, but that they will take it as , a recommendati on o f the H ouse o f C o mmons, d e fi n it e an d precise, on a subj ec t o f th e hi g h est importance, and that, we shall feel th a t th a t recommen d a ti on w ill b e ar sp ee dy fruits for the acceptance of the country. I inn bound to • express my opinion, that so far as I can form ono from the conduct of the Government upon this matter, my expec- I tations until this debate took place were not of a very sans guine character. I do not'see in the Government, from the manner with which they have conducted themselves with regard to this matter, ritly evidence that they are prepared to act in• the spirit of - the Policy w hich this, 'amendme nt that they are abo u t to'adopt would recornmend them im mediately and amply to follow, We have had one motion hurriedly and hastily brOught forward with regard to the . consolidation of the military offices. I think my honour able friend the member for Hertfordshire acted with great discretion in not mixing up that vast subject with that' of the civil service of the country ; but this is the only mea sure of administratiVe alteration which the Government have thought tit recoMmenil to us; and, so far as I can I forts an opinion up on the subject of this plan, it appears to me to be crudely and hastily.' adopted.' (Hear.) They are the recornmendatione"of bygone days with little refer ence to the dearly-bought experience of the present ; and I have yet to learn that the - Clover - intent will be able to prove to the country thit the alterations which they re commend are such as will meet the public exigencies, or such as will recommend themselves to the approbation of those who have carefully thought upon this matter. But if I look to the civil service of the country, I see less to approve of in the conduct of the Government. A few days back there were three places in the civil service of the usuntry disposed of, of the highest class; and I find that the three gentleman appointed to those places, who may he men most competent for the discharge of the duties of their respective offices, were none of them trained in the civil service of the country—(hear, hear) — and I venture to say that I should have no difficulty in writing down on a piece of paper a dozen gentlemen fully competent to fill those or any other offices in the civil s is vice, some of thosegentlemen have been 25 and 3j years, and some even more, toiling in the public offices of this country, the mainstay of Ministers, the columns upon whom we lean in our distress, whose devotion, whose as siduity, whose intelligence, whose ecqu'rementa, and whose unsvearied industry no language of mine can attempt to paint or describe. (Hoer.) Why, what must be the feel ings of those coon when they find that when an opportu nity:occurs to place them in an orninentposition in the pro fession which they have embraced, and so sedulously and so zealously pursued, and to wing them into the light of day, her Majesty's Government passed them over in silence, and that three individuals, whose fitness I will not con test, for that has nothing to do with the question, but whose fitness di,/ not exceed their own, are preferred to them, adopted by the Government, and that their names are circulated throughout the country, not only depriving the faithful servants of the civil adutiuistratiou from their duo reward, but intimating that that service cannot sup ply the public with men to.npetent to fill places in it which become vacant. (Hear) I have no doubt Mr. Howell is quite competent to discharge the functions of his office ; but what is support to Ministers is death to the civil ser vice of the country, and I say that is an appointment of which this house ought to express its disapprobation. I shall not speak of the middle chases as the hon. member fur Surrey has dons. I shall leave him a monopoly of the caustic vagaries iu which ho deals—(e laugh)'—but if he had taken this case of Mr. Howell, and if he had come for ward and vindicated a use:ul class iu the country he would have done more service than by indulging in the airy com ments with which he has favoured us. I see a gentleman wes appointed the other day, as accountant-general to the Secretary of State for War, who has been 4t) years in the public service, and who is admirably qualified for his of fice. Well, a gentleman, after forty years of service, and who posse tees qualities which cannot probably be rivalled in this country; is appointed accountant-general to the Minister of War, at a less salary thau one of those strangers to whom I have referred, who have been recently introduced to the public service. A stranger receives 1,5001. a-year, an Smile receives 1,2001 I say if the Government were sincere in the opinion they were about to take shelter under, that the civil service of this country ought to be recognised as a great profession, these appointments, which have been made within the last few days or weeks, could not have taken place. (Cheers.) 'What are the intentions of the Government ? The Chancellor of the Exchequer has spoken in this debate ; and I was unable precisely to ascertain what he intends to announce as the policy of the Government. Ho treated this as a motion of want of confidence. New, I say this ins friendly spirit--(a la ugh) —he is a gentleman highly respected in this house; he is a scholar and a man of amiable character; but he is not experienced in Parliament*, and iu the present state of the Government I think it unwise to snake those declarations. If the noble lord (Lord Palmerston) had known the excit nnent which prevailed on those beaches after that declaration he would have beenalarmed.'( Laugh ter.) I must confess that her Majesty's Government are in a very peculiar position. The other day:l brought for ward a motion of vary mill censure, preliminary to the holidays. (Laughter.) They immediately declared it was a vote of want t,f confidence, and a great Humber of gentle men who agreed with the motion voted against it. (A. laugh.) And now we are authoritatively informed that this is o a wait of confidence ; but even if this be de feated by our aid, still you are iu this unworthy posit.on, that if you put the tao minorities together, there is a great uerjority of want of coufidencs iu the Government. (Laughter and Opposition cheers.) I think the Govern ment ought to corr,ider the remarkable position in which they are placed. They are a Government condemned by the largest majority that ever was hoard in the House of Commons, and by the longest report that was ever pio duced in the same assembly. I mu bound to acknowledge the favourable position in which the Chancellor of the Ex chequer and the President of the Board of Control hold' in this respect. They are ti.e only two of the Ministers in whom the country has not exprersed a want of confidence (A laugh.) I think it is a groat thing fur the noble lord at the heal of the Government to come forward and Key, ‘• Teem are two members of the Cabinet whom the House of Commons has not condemned." (Laughter.) What did the Chancellor of the Exchequer say with regard to the amendment of my hog. friend the member for Hertford shire ? I understood him to say there was no harm in the motion, but it depended upon its interpretation and that if the interpretation of the notion was one unfavourable to the Government thou the Government would not take it. Now, any Government that renders it necessary for the House of Commons to 'tell them what to do, or what course they ought to pursue, can scarcely consider such a part in the Opposition as a compliment. (A laugh.) On the contrary, if it be the sincere opinion of the Government that the policy recommended by the hon. tentleman ought to be pursued, they ought long ago to have taken a course which would have shown that, they had discounted, as it were, the demands of the people —(Hear)—and they ought to have been able to rise in their places, and to have sa id, " We have had a great d ea l t o d o; we have conducted la borious negotiations, which have not succeeded ; we have not hal time to master the largo and comprehensive mea sures fcr the remedial administration of the great offices, which are necessary; but we haVe given evidence to the. , House of Commons of our disposition in this respect. Look at the last appointments we made a few weeks ago (a laugh) —see how we selected from the permanent civil service of the country, that we are always paying with very fulsome praise; three men who in the lung course of our adininistrative life we have found the most ca pable and ill rewarded persons in the public service." But the Chancellor of the Exchequer said more than that. He referred to the Orders in Council, and said— " All that has been recommended of a practical nature has been anticipated by the Orders in Council." Now, I do not quarrel with the Orders in Council. They are not equal to what I could wish them to be, but I take them for what they are worth, though they are only a small part of that which the must moderate of those who feel the great interests of our civil service would require. The orders in council give no security for the purely professional charac ter of the civil service, nor do they secure to the permanent civil servants of her Majesty the enjoyment of the great prizes of the profession in which they toil ; and, therefore, when the right hon. gentleman wants to ride off on the orders in council, and consider them as a practical solution of the difficulty, then I say that I sin not satisfied myself, and, more then that, that the right hon. gentleman }vas not distinguished any excepting the amendment of, the hon. member for Hertfordshire. Sir, there is one topic that I cannot help touching on upon this occasion before I sit down. I have referred to what were the intentions, and not only the intentions but the measures which would have been immediately brought forward by the Govern ment of Lord Derby iu 1852. I remember, sir, on that oc casion, after wo had felt it our duty to resign, that a dis tinguished person, who was a political opp onen t, re gr e tt e d our resignation of office at the time. He said he was very sorry ; it was not necessary for us to go out at that time. I believe we wore to have been turned out at Easter, and we anticipated that move by going out at Christmas. Bat this eminent person said why he deplored our fall, which he wished to retard. Ho said, what could be done for a sot of men who based the policy of their Government on such an incomprehensible crotchet as adniinistrative re form ? I have often remembered that incident since. I believe our sympathising friend is now in a responsible position, and I have no doubt has become a very worthy administrative reformer. I cannot help remembering the circumstances under which ho retired from office. It was impossible at that time that 'we could have remained with honour in office, because, from the moment we accepted that trust, the noble lord the member for the city of Londou pursued us with such unceasing combine dons to eject us from office that it was a hopeless task from the first to attempt to remain in it. Considering, sir, that the noble lord had retired from office in 1851, that he had resigned office in 1552, and that iu no case had his retire mint or his resignation boon occasioned by the conduct of the Opposition, but by the distrust of his own friends and by quarrels and misunderstandings with his owe colleagues ; considering that Lord Derby in 1851 had refused to accept the responsibility of office, because that office without a that er majority in the House of Comm ons was a pos i t i on w hi ch he ought not to fill; considering th a t th e no bl e l or d him self M ajestyfa constitutional politician to send for Lord Derby, I like the noble lord it was th e most extraordinary thing, that before wo could accept th e t rust which we took, abso lutely because his own Governme n t t w i ce cram bl e d away, have had a recommendedhvay s thought h before I could stand an election in my county and take my place in.this house tuattempt toeconduct its business, the noble lord had absolutely called his friends together, and was then making biddings for support to eject us from the position to which we load been called. (Hear, hear.) Now I essure the noble lord that I d o no t make that ob servation with the slightest regret for what is past, but rather because, as time goes on and as events develope, it is possible in politico to point a moral. What were the offers made by the noble lord at the Chesham-place meet ing, by which the Liberal party was tobe reconstructed, and we, who had taken the reins of power because the noble lord was on two occasions incompetent to hold them, to be ejected as soon as possible from the office which we certainly had not coveted with any eagerneSs ? Why, the noble lord I called every section of the Liberal party to his house in Chesham-place. There was the-school of Manchester, with a vigilant and justifiable ambition ; there were all the Ad ministrative Reformers in the shell (laughter) there were the unanswerable ae.serters of pure Radical principles —all the men of Spartan virtue, who only, entered public .ifs to assert a principle, and never Weald . take office but to carry it into successful oxecution.Thero they all wore, an immense crowd ; and if they had only supported the noble lord since with the same unanimity as They shelved at that meeting he might still have b3en Slinis:er. It was a meeting of men repentant fora deed which, when it was. executed, filled them with some alarm. Nov, what was the address of the noble lord, when the new. Government was hardly sworn in—a Goverarnent, remember, that only threw ,themsOves into office from the failure of the noblo lord to retain it?. The no ble lord said he sincerely deplored all that had occurred ; he regretted the want of good i►i telligonce there had been in the Liberal party.; ho said be was willing to take to himself the greater part of the blame of that want of intelligence, and of that little good under standing; that there had been complaints that the Govern ment had been constructed on too uarrow,a basis; that he was not disposed (now the Government was upset) to quarrel with that definition; that, profiting by experience, he could assure them that if the whole Liberal party would be again unanimous in supporting him, there should .be another broad-bottomed administration ; that the area in future should be extended, the basis should be as wide as they liked, that the menof the people should find themselves in the council chambers of the Sovereign, and that all they had•to do to achieve these purposes was to terminate as soon as ;possible the administration the noble bird had himself recommended to her Majesty. Observe what has happened. , You turned us out of office when we were about to give you a conscientious administrative reform—(ironical cheers and laughter from-the ministerial benches.) nave you.now got it? You turned us out of office, when. you were in a state of profound peace, and I declare my solemn conviction that our leaving office has entailed upon you the state! of war in which you now are. (Hear, hear.) But if you have lost your administrative ,reform, 'what have yon gained . A dangerous, not to aay s a clisastrees war. Where is the Government on a bread basis which you haye secured? Where ,is the Ailinioigration on an extended basis which you were promised ? Whore are the men of the people in the council chambers: of the Sovereign? You have not only lost what you might have 'gained, but you have gained what you might have avoided. You have gained a Government formed on the most eiclusive basis, and the principal occupation of, your future career will be to vote confidence iii the men who take every opportunity to treat you with the contumely you deserve. (Cheers.) Lord PALMEBSTON said that, before he adverted to the .motion before the house, he must say a word or two personal to himself with reference to accusations" which were brought against him by the honourable member for'Aylisbury at -the meeting which took place at Drury-lane. The honourable gentlanan was pleased to say, in the speech which he, then made—on an occasion with regard to which it might be said that there were many persons - represented as having been present who' were never there at all—(hear, hear, hear)-::-and that so far from its being a meeting for public discussion, .it was arranged that only the persons who convened the meet ing should speak—the hon. gentleman said, -as reported in the papers, speaking of him (Lord Palmerston), that this was the only time ho had seen a man jesting upon the sufferings of the people—(hear, hoar)—and making light of their unfortunate condition—( hear, hear)—and this, too, he said, was done at a moment when Europe was looking to the British Parliament for an example of wisdom, order, an I liberal government; and theii ho added that he must acknow ledge he had never seen Lord Palmerston in earnest except when he was vilifying the people of this country. (Hear.) Now ho (Lord Palmerston) was unwilling in that house to make use of any expressions which should be contrary to its rules ; but the, hon. member having m a d e th a t c h arge i n public, he, equally in public, and to his face, told the hon. member that there was not ono word of truth in the asser tions that he then made. (Loud cheers from all parts of the house.) He never jested at the sufferings of the people— (hear, hear)—he never made light of their unfortunate con dition—(mar, hear)—and, so far from ever having vilified the people of England, the whole course of his conduct through life, in every word which had fallen from his lips in that house or elsewhere, attested the respectful admiration which lie felt for the people of this country, and the pri is with which he was animated at belonging to a nation so noble and so distinguished. (Cheers.) He wondered that when the hon. member made that statement a blush of shame did not come over his face —(cheers)—at making charges which his conscience, if it ever spoke to him at all —(laughter)— ought to have told him were utterly and diametrically the reverse of the truth. He would say no more of the Drury lane private theatricals. (Cheers and laughter.) The motion theywere called upon to discUss, explained by the speech of the lion, member for Aylesbury, had turned upon 'the army. upon the diplomacy, and upon the civil service. He wonderel the hon. member did not in his speech at all discuss that question which upon former occasions had been made so much of--the composition of tho Government. .That the • hon. member entirely omitted. With Tegar 1 to the composition of the Government, he was alone responsible for it. He raceived the commands Of his Sovereign to submit to her the list of persons who should form the Government. Ho was led by no family connexions. There was not a man of the Government that was related to him by any family cenneixon. Ho looked out for those men who, being the most distinguished by their experience and talents in public life, as proved by their Parliamentary conduct, were most in agreement with himself in their public principles, with whom he felt it most likely that he should be able harmoniously to act, and •by whose assistance tho Government could be roost efficiently carried on. Therefore, the charge of the Govern ment being constructed on family or personal considerations was a charge which the very existence of the Persees at the head of the Government entirely and completely 'disproved. With regard to all those charges which the hon. member had made with regard to the administration of the army, as his hon. friend the Under Secretary for the War Department had gone through them ono by one, and had entirely disproved every assertion which the hon. member had made,. he (Lord Palmerston) thought it unnecessary to trouble the house with anything further on that subject. With regard to the . diolo matic arrangements, he was really surprised to hear what fell from the hon. member, for the hon. member was' criticisins that department in which he himself was for a time employed. While the lion. member charged the Government with a sys tematic disregard of talent, and of a dogged adherence to rou tine and favouritism, he himself was allying proof of the false'- hood of that charge. Why was the bon, =nib it named Un- ' der Secretary for Foreign 'Affairs? Was it from faMily fa vieuritism, routine, or' connexion ? Was it not because' 04 noble lord the Secretary for the Colonies —acting nth* upon what ho had heard of the talents and energy Of the hen: member, which no one will dispute, whatever they may think of the discretion of his conduct—offbred him that office, and proved, in so doing, that in the conduct of the Government regard is paid to merit; and that thoso who aro responsible for the great public departments of the state do look out for per sons whom they think capable of rendering good service to the country. It was said that none but the aristocracy were employed in the diplomatic service, and two names had been selected by the hon. member as examples, that•all who were connected with that service were 'pers. But what peers were they, and how came they to be peers ? Lord Stratford do Medellin was not made an ambassador because he was a peer. but he was made a peer because he was an ambassador, and the coronet which now adorned his brow was the reward of a long career of honourable and useful service rendered to his country. (Cheers.) Then, again, there was the cis, of herd wley. That peerage wss conferred upon the distinguished father of the present ambassador in France towards the close of a long and honourable life spent in the service of his coun try, and the peerage bad descended to a son who had'most ably served the Crown, and had proved himself a worthy nephew of the Duke of Wellington and the Marquis of Welles ley. The hon. member had also referred to the sta'e of the consular establishment in the East. But when the lion, mem ber was in the Foreign-office why did he not himself put an end to the system ? Ho brought with him local knowledge and personal experience, and why did he not recommend to his chief some alteration in that state of affairs? Another com plaint was that there was no promotion in the consular service: His reply to this was that he held in his hand a list of the present consul-generals, hardly one of whom had rot risen to their position from the post of vice-consul or consul, and almost all of them had risen from inferior positions in the consular service. (Cheers.) The hon. member also made some personal reflections upon the noble lord the present mi nister at Florence. That nobleman had filled high and im portant offices of state in this country, and it was an 'unwor thy effort on the part of the lion, member to intimate that he was not competent to discharge the duties of the office which ho holds. (Cheers.) With respect to the civil service, on which the greater portion of this debate had turned, the right hon. gentleman the member for Bucks bad informed the house of all the great plans which his Government had in tended to carry into effect if it had pleased .Parliament to allow them to do so. We know how broad is that pavement which is said to be paved with good inten'ions--(a laegh)— and the intentions of the Government of which the right hon. gentleman formed a part would, no doubt, have extended over a considerable portion of it if they had been allowed to lay them down. Now it was very strange in connection with those reforms, that whenever a thing was not done it was always magnified and considered of the utmost importance. No sooner, however, was a thing done than it was usual to exclaim, " Lord have mercy ! what is the value of that— (a langli)—we want you to invent something do something that nobody ever thought of—to find out some evil that had never been conceived, and provide for it some remedy which no human ingenuity ever discovered —do this, and their we will say you are a Government deserving the confidence of the country." (Laughter.) Now they were told that it w s important to appoint qualified young men to discharge the duties connected with the civil service. At present in many offices a very rigid examination was instituted, and young men constantly rejected for not being able to pass the exami nation. • A young man whom I myself recommended was rejected by the examiners a short time since. I regretted that he was so rejected, but on the other hand I was glad to see that the examiners had exercised that scrutiny which led to that rejection. (Cheers.) But beyond this, an order in council was issued the other day for the purpose of enforcing a uniform system of examination in all public offices connected with the civil service. He trusted that that would be at tended with considerable advantage to the public service. But we must not deceive ourselves with respect to the attrac tions which the public service possesses. We must not imagine that, even if the public service were held out to public eompAition, which he did not believe would be appli cable to the purpose, but even if they opened an "office to which any man might come from any part of the country to be examined, and put down his name as a candidate for vacan cies as they arose—they must not imagine that, with the salaries which were now given to persons employed in the public offices, with the degree of labour which they would have to undergo, with the sacrifice of health which confine ment to office frequently entailed, with the knowledge that their meritorious services could not, from the ve , y nature of their occupations, be brought un d er o f f i c i a l no ti ce , Trail the length of time they would have to wait before they could arrive by any progression to the higher and more pro fitable employments of the office—they must not, he con tended, imagine that the civil service would ever hold out such temptations as would induce persons of rising talent to refrain from entering upon the more profitable avo cations of commerce, and those other roads to . fame and fortune which were so much more open than they could ever -be in the civil service. Now two very contrary opinions had been propounded to the 'house upon the subject. Honourable members who sat below the gangway hold that the Government ought not to follow routine in official appointments, and that when an office was vacant in which much responsibility and many important duties were to be performed, they ought to look out among commercial men for persons comaetent by their talent and industry to perform those duties. The right hon. gentleman the member for Bucks, on the Other hand, hold an exactly contrary doc trine, and said that the Government milt to make the civil service a profession by itself, and make the higher offices objects of ambition for persons in the lower stations. Now, in his opinion, neither of these rides ought to be invariably adhered to. As an instance of how far these appointments ought to depend upon circumstances, he stated that the office . of permanent Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs 'had recently become.vacant, by the retiromentof the gentle man who had formerly held.it. The.noble earl at the heal of the Fsreign-office had appointed to the vacant post one of the most distinguished men iu the Foreign-office —one •wha had worked his way up—and one who by his talents, his energy, and perseverance, and his great activity of mind, was per fectly fitted for the discharge of the duties of the office, aud to the great honour of Lord Clarendon, and the benefit of the country, Mr. :Haniniond had 'been made permanent Under- Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs. On the other hand, Lord Fuze WA recently to appeaut persons to fiupern;._ tend other branchei of the public service. The noble lord appointed Mr.. Howell, a, gentleman who - had 'been some One ernpleYed by the Government, but was not officially connected with the Govertnerit. That- gentle.' Mau was appointed because he was, believed to be perfectly Competent to discharge the duties which were required to he performed, and Lord Panmure had said, that during the short. space of . time fur . which that, gentleman had been appointed, be had already .effected coneidpi. able saving in. the public expenditure in, the department over which he was placed. (Cheers.) Then, again, in the clothing department of the army, ,Lord•Panmure had ap pointed Sir ThomaS Troubridgo to the head of that depart-` mont. (Cheers:). That was an officer who had received some most severe wounds before the enemy, and the appointment of that gallant officer was a. proof that Lord Patunure was not insensible to the just claims of the army. (Cheers.) So that while the noble lord had taken from the commercial world a man well-fitted 'for the station which he was . to occupy, he had upon the other hand conferred by another appouat ment a . well-deserved reward upon a most distinguished military officer. (Cheers.) Those things proved that her Majesty's Government were fully alive to the duties which they had to perform. (Cheers.) When the right' hon, gen tleman tho member _ for Bucking,hamshira said the Govern ment were opposed by a vast majority of that house, he (Lord Palmerston) said, on the 'contrary, that the Government re ceived the thanks of the right hon. gentleman himself—a vote of confidence by a very large majority.. (Hear.) .They were certainly indebted to the right hon. gentleman fer`that vote, because he brought forward a resolution which was intended to b.c a condemnation of the Government, but Which' resulted - in an honotira.ble and triumphant acquittal. (Hear, h ear .) It would be superfiuous,to enter into any argument why the house should not accept the motion of th e h on. member for Aylesbury. The hon. gentleman talked of disasters impend: ing over the country, and discredit to the national character. Why, the national character never stood higher that it did at the present moment, and so far from anticipatingslisastere ire had every reason for anticipating events of en opposite nature. (Hear, hear.) We had got in the Crimea an army which, having, recovered from the sufferings of a severe winter, w as now in as fine a condition as any British army which ever took the field- an army which, in point of numbers, health,. eqnipment, spirit, and confidence in its officers, was equal to any army of any country which ever marched against an enemy at the beginning of a campaign. (Hear, hear.) It was fighting side by side with the troops of an ally on whom we could depend—troops which had shown that their valour was equal to our own ; and the two combined were a match for any troops in the world, and wore sure, when they gave battle, to march to a victorious .result. So far; then, from talking of discredit to the country, or anticipating disasteri, he doubted whether there were ten men in the house who would vote for a resolution which cntained:a statement so little in consanane3 with the feelings of the country or with the fair prospects to whicli W 3 were entitled to look forward, (Hear, hear.) But the GOvernment were asked, with respect to the motion of the honourable baronet the member for Hert- fordshire, Whether they accepted it in sincerity. .With sin cerity they did accept it. (Hear, hear.) They accepted it as pledging them to pursue that system of administrative re form as an official improvement which that house and the country required, and which the disposition of the Govern ment would equally lead them to adopt. For what possible interest could any Government have iu pursuing any other course It had been said that the beads of offices would ab stain from appointing oficial staffs, lest the credit should be reaped by their successors. Why, such a miserable feeling, would be unworthy of any man who ever occupied a respon sible situation. (Hear, hear.) Every public man felt pride in leaving his office in such a condition .as. would make it impossible for his successor to improve it ; while every Government must know and feel that any advantage which it could derive from obliging friends and constituen cies, and conciliating individuals, was as nothing in the scale compared with the credit and strength which it must acquire from the efficient performance of the public service. (Hear.) It must be the interest, as it was the duty, of every Ministry so to conduct the business of the country as to be most conducive to the public advantage. The reform of the public departments was undoubtedly a matter which could ' not be'done without grave injury, much consideration, and considerable time. It was easy to say consolidate offices, and so save money and accelerate public business; but, if they united offices, the business of which is not of the same kind, they would be joining things which were different in ther nature, and, instead of producing economy and despatch, they would produce nothing but confusion and mistakes in the con ' duct of busiuess. Thence it was necessary that they should look out for businesses of the same kind, and by putting them together they would secure unity of decision and despatch. The Government had done that with rear I to the Ordnance, and lie anticipated great advantiges from the management of that office. It would bo then our duty to look into all the other departments, and if they could find either that by con , solidating offices now separate they could procure more unity of direction, or that by any redistribution of business they could affect any material economy, theyshould consider them selves bound to pursue that course. (Hear,) He should be glad, indeed, if the House of Commons were to evince a dis position to give more adequate remuneration to some of those engaged in the civil service of the country ; but it could not be forgotten that it was the hon. gentleman opposite who proposed, not long ago, that 10 per cont. should bo taken from the insufficient salary of every clerk in the country,with out regard to the special circumstances of each case. (Hear.) In the meantime the Government accepted the proposal of the honourable baronet the member. for Hertfordshire as a pledge on their part that they would turn their serious at tention to the continued revision of the diffbrent offices be longidg to the civirservice, and that any am •ndment which they could make, any admin i strative reform . which they might think practicable, with advantage to the country and with justice to the persons concerned, it should be their pride and pleasure to adopt. (Cheers ) Mr. LINDSAY, who was received with cries of " oh," said he rose to move the adjournment of the debate. (Cries of "go on," and "divide.") His reason for making that motion was that the speech of the noble lord seemed to indicate that ho thought everything perfect. (Cries of "oh, oh.") But, ho had another and important reason. The house was aware that, in another place, ho had made certain statements con- E netted with the maladministration of the Government, lie had been told that the Government intended to contradict those statements ; but he had sat th ere pa ti en tl y for two evenings vainly expecting the Government to do so. Now, as those statements were very important, awl as be wished to repeat them in that house, he hoped the debate would be adjOurned. (Cries of "no, no," and "go on.") He was en tirely in the hands of the house, but ho thought it would be more convenient, as he had still more important statements to make—statements which would show the Government the necessity of a thorough administrative reform, if the debate , were to be adjourned. (Cries of "go on," and "Aivide.") Admiral BERKELEY said that lie, too, had waited there all the evening in the hope that the liononrable gentleman would rise in his place, and repeat the statements w hi c h he thought proper to mak e At Drury-lane. (Hear, hear.) De did not think it becoming to the house to take notice of any such virulent untruths. (Cries of • " order, order," and. cheers.) Ho was prepared When the honourable gentleman repeated those statements in that house, where ho was supposed to speak upon the character and honour of a representative of the people, to tell him to his face that what lie asserted was not founded on fact. (A laugh.) Mr. OTWAY, who rose amid cries of" Oh." said he was sorry to see that the gallant admiral differed so essentially from the noble lord at the heal of the Government as to the propriety of answering the statements made elsewhere. Tho noble lord had not thought it beneath him to reply to certain remarks of the hon, member for Aylesbury at Drury-lane ; but the gallant admiral, using terms so courteous and Par liamentary, had not considered it right to reply to the obser vations of the hon. member for Teignmouth. , (Hear.) But as that bon. gentleman had stated -that he was ready to bring still heavier charges against the Government, bad the gallant admiral declared that lie wished nothing better than an op portunity of meeting those accusations? (Hear.) It appeared to him (Mr. Otway) that the debate must be adjourned, not only for the sake of tlioe who wished to s,aeak unon a snb jeet of present public interest, but even in justice to the Government itself. , (Hear.) The house then divided, when there appeared— For the adjournment R3 Against it 336 Majority —253 Mr. LAYARD then rose, and claimed the indulgence of the house while ho said a few words, not so much in reply as in the way of explanation. He regretted that the debate had not been adjourned after the words which had fallen from the hon. and gallant admiral, especially as the words were certainly not courteous, if, indeed, they were Parliamentary, • The hon, and gallant admiral had used expressions which directly ques tioned the veracity of his hon.' friend (Mr. Lindsay), and he thought it was only fair that his hon, friend should have had an opportunity of replying to them. With regard to what had fallen from the noble lord respecting the words whi c h h e (Mr. Layard) wee reported t o h ave spoken in another place, and which were not perhaps quite accurately reported, he had this explanation to offer to the house, that while the hearts of the country wore rung, while the deepest pain and sorrow pervaded the laud, in that august assembly the noble lord more than once rose in his place, when subjects of grave and serious matter were in debate, and treated them with levity—(" no, no," and " hear, hear,")—but he trusted that the tone of the noble lord had improved, (Laughter.) With respect to what had been said by an hon. member (Mr. F. L. Gower) in reference to his observations regarding Earl Gran ville, he (Mr. Layard) begged to say that ho did not intend to make any reflection on that noble lord; on the contrary, what he had said was intended to exculpate him from any such charge. He was sorry to find that his words, having been misinterpreted, had given pain to any gallant officer; and he wished to explain that, when he spoke of the officers in command of the artillery, he did not allude to Prigadier - General Strangways or to Brigadier-General Dacres, his ob servations having reference to the officer in command of the artillery at Inkerman. He had not the slightest intention to cast a personal reflection on those who were concerned, and he was willing to leave the matter as it stood between him and the Under-Secretary of War to the judgment of the house. It was said he had never asked for returns; but he had asked for returns a few weeks ago, and there was no use in it, because one, never got them ; and if ho had got the return he asked for it would strengthen the case he had brought before the house. On referring to the re turn laid on the table respecting the officers who had dis tinguished themselves in the Crimea, it would be found that it perfectly agreed with the statements that he (Mr. Layard) had made to the house, and if any more officers had been since promoted he should bo glad to see their n- mes had upon the table. With regard to the appointment of offi cers on the staff, he did not say officers so appointed should be provided with a certificate from Sandhurst ; what he had said was, that they should be educ :t ed at a place recognised for that purpose. R eference to what h a d b een sa id re • spotting the appointor of his brother on the staff, lie begged . to offer the following explanation :—Colouel Dixon wished to place his brother on the staff as an interpreter, because he was perfectly acquainted with the French. and Italian lan guages, and he frequently asked him (Mr. Layard) to men tion his brother at head-quarters. He refuied to do so, but on the day he was leaving the camp he saw Colonel Steele, and they were talking about au interpreter. Ho said his brother spoke French and Italian perfectly well and why not employ him, and afterwards he saw that ho was placed on the staff, He bad another brother who filled a government situation in the island of Ceylon ; ho was in exceedingly bad:health, and a memorial was signed by sixty men of science in favour of his removal to New Zealand. The memorial was supported by the hon, members for Leamington and Merthyr Tydvil ; but M ho (Mr. Layard) refused to have anything to d o w ith the e- morial, and the Duke of Newcastle decli ne d t o d o anything in the matter. He thought the noble lord h a d f a ll en i nto an error when ho said that all consul-generalships were- given to consuls. Not one of them bad been consuls except iu one case, where lately a consul had been a pp o i n t e d consul-general at cyrout. He (Mr. Layard) had used the. word !` scand a l ous " and it was under Stood that that wor d was applicable to Lord Hardinge personally. He regretted that any person ehould suppose that he intended to apply that word to Lord Ha.rdinge personally, and if the expression had given pain to any son in that hose, he begged to retract that expression:. per ,The house then divided. The numbers 'were 'For the original resolution ........... . Against it.... ....... 359 • , The SPEAKERMajtohrietnypaugtaituhset question on ..... B. amendment, now become the main question. Mr. W. S. LINDSA Y—I • •- • ' rise to move the adjournment of the debate. l am sure, after especially after th e statements of the boa. and L 3 ; i tt 3 on's what has pass e d this evenine, gallant the house will be so generous as to grant me the opportunity of showing on.what grounds I made the statements impugned, Viscount PALMERStON said that under the circumstances, 'as from the - latenesS of , the hour the hon. gent:eman would not have an adequate. opportunity for - explanation, he should assent to the adjoninment of the debate. Mr. 'DISRAELI inquired whether . the nob lord would clnsent to the Metropolis. Improvement Bill Aoming "int-first at the next sitting-of the s house, as this woui e a great con venience. Viscount PALMERSTON—There is nothi ,like standb:. by an'arrangement, and we stand by ours as • the Irish bill coming first. • Mr. DISRAELI said he should, if he were pr ram, that the other bil be taken first. ' The debate was•then adjourned to Thursday. The Spirit of Wine Bill was read a third time. The Railway 4 (Ireland) Bill passed through committee. UNION CHARGES ACT CONTINUANCE. Mr. BAINES brought in a bill to continue r.n act of the 18th year of her Majeity, for charging the maintenance of certaiii pooepersons in unions in England and Wales upon the common fund. YOUTHFUL OFFENDERS BILL. Sir G. GREY brought in a bill to amend the act for the better care and reformation of youthful offenders. RAMSGATE HARBOUR BILL. Mr. BOUVERIE brought in a bill to alter the management of Ramsgate. Harbour, and to provide for the future abolition of the passing toll, The house adjourned at twenty minutes p as t two. PARLIAMENTARY DIVISION. HOUSE OF COMMONS -JUNE 18. ADMINISTRATIVE REFORM. Order read for resuming adjourned debate on amendment proposed to question, " That this House views with d eep and increasing concern the state of the nation, and is of opinion that the manner in whiCh merit and ef f iciency haVe boon sacrificed, in public appointments, to party and family influences, and to a blind adherence to routine, has given rise to great misfortunes, and threatens to bring discredit upon the national character, and to involve the country in grave disasters :" Aud which amendment was to leave out from the word "House" to the end of the question, in order to add the words, " recommends to the earliest attention - of her Majesty's Ministers the necessity of a careful revision of our various official establishments, with a view to sim plify and facilitate the transaction of public business, and, by instituting judicious tests of merit, as well as by re moving obstructions to its fair promotion and legitimate secureportion to of ithhee energys r ser vi ce elite; theintelligence r wilwhich riteva7adblse t=o th o e l t people of.this out coun try stan d part are obe left thereof. Question a ga i n proposed, " That the words pro se:: s tg u t i h n eq i u s h e s e dis t inguished," question." instead n ' ~ i The pro posed Home divided—Ayes 46, Noes 359. AYES -46, Alexander, J. Langton, H. G. Bell. J. Laslett, W. Bowyer, G. Lee, W. Brockman, E. D. Lindsay, W. Brown, it. Lovr, 11. Cobden; It. Maguire, J. Dlllwyn, L. M ang l es, It. D. Dtuichtsdtl. Miall, E. . Dunlop, A. Michell. W. Fitzgerald, W. Mowatt, F. Fox, W. Murrough. J. Goderich, Via. - Oliveira, B. Greaves, E. .. Otway, A. Grogan, Edward Parker, R. Hadfield, G. Pechell Sir G. Keating, IL S. : -Pellatt. A. King, P. Price, W. NOES --359. Acton, J. Forester, Col. Mostyn, T. Adair, IL Forster. C. It. Mowbray, J. R„ Adair, . Forster, Sir G. Mulgrave. Earl A dricricy, C. Fo rs t er , J . Mullings, .T. Anderson, Sir J. Fortescue, C. al n iy, W. Annesley, Hari of Franklyn, G. • Neeld. John Antrobus, E. ~ Freeatun, Col. Norreys, Sir D. Archdall, - M. Fes North, J. North, Co!, J. Atherton, W. -Galway. Viscount. North, P. Ragshaw, J. Gardner, R. N ort h eote, Sir S. it a nes. Lt. Hod . 3f. Gaskell. J. : Oakes, J. Balm!, J. , , George, J. O'B r i en, P. Ball, E. . Gilpin, Col. 11. O'Brien, C. B ill, J. ofadstone, Capt. J. O'Brien. J., F. aring, T. Glyn, G . O'Connell. D. Barnes, T. Gooch, Sir E. O'Flaherty, A. Barrington, Viscount Goodman, Sir G. Osborne, R. Bass, T. Gore, W. Ossul stun, Lord Bateson, Capt T. Gower, F. Packe, C. lleamlsh. F. Graham, Lord W. Paget, Lord A. Ileaomont, W. Granby, Marquis of Pakington. Sir.T, Beckett, W. Greene, Thomas Palmer, Robert Bective, Earl Gregson, S. Palmer, Roundell Bennet, Capt. P. Grenfell, Chas. Palmerston, Visct . Berkeley, Admiral Grey, Sir G. Paxton, Sir J. Ile , keley, C. Grey, R. l'eel, Sir it. Berkeley, Ilon. M. Grosvenor, Earl Peel, F. . • Bethel, Sir R. Guinness, R. Pennant,' Col. E. Itiddulph, R. M. Corner, Percy, I. ' J. - Biggs, W. Gwyn, 11. Philipps, J. Bignold, Sir S. Halter& Sir 11. • Phillimore. J. G. Blacsburn, Peter - Hall, Sir it. Phillimore, R. J. Bland, 1.. Hamilton, Eon 1 C. Pilklngtou,.l, Booth, Sir Rt. Gore Hamilton, .T. 11. Pohlad-Urquhart, W . tteuverie, Ilon. E. Y. nanbury,Capt.Hon. C. Portal, M. itramley-51oore. J. Ilankev, T. Portman. W. Brains:on, I'. W. flamer, Sir J. Price. Sir It. Brand, H. B. W. . Hareourt, Col. F. Pritchard, J. isp,ckiehurst. J. Trestle, Alex. Pugh, D. Brotherton, J. Ramie, Archd, Itepton, G. Bruce, Lord E. lisryee, Sir IC. Ricardo 'O, muck, G. n earlam. . r. Itic.irdo, S. Buckley, Gen. Hea rd, J. • Thee, E. liurroughes, li. Ileathrnie, sir G. Itobattes, T. Burrower, R. Heatheete. G. , Robertson, P. isYlig, G. Iletinnze. G•eo. F. Boit. P. Car bell B. Emboli, C. Henley, .T, Cairns, 11. Herbert. TT, Eir•liout, Col. 0, Campbell, Sir A. Card , Ell, E. arnac Sir J. /,,, r ,.,.. L or d A Hassell, Lard J. Till hard, R. C. Russell, F. W. C, Hill, Lend i. E. Sadleir, James Cast lerosse, Viscount . ~,,,ile,.. C. Sawle, C. Can'll'll• Cal. J. liolfori, R. Scrope, G. Cavendsh, C. llorsfall, T. 11. 'Seynter, 11. Cavendish, 0. . Ho. omen, E. Scy.nour, 11. Cecil, Lord It. Howard, C. Seymour, W. D. Chambers, T. lloward, Lord , Shaßo , It • ' l'haplin, W. ithoi„. IV: . ' Sheilmnit, Earl Child, Smith Ingham. It. Sliclio , tit J. Clinton, Lo - d R. Irton, S. Shirley, E. CP ve, R. Jackson, W. Smith, R. Cobbett, J. M. Jenr,vn, Earl Smith, W. Cockburn, Sir A. J. E. ~,,,,,, 5tn, ,,,. J. Smith, Abel Cock., t'.... Johnstone. , fr J. - ' Smith, J. G. Cqdria r tton, Sir. C. W. Jones, Adm. Srnolictt, A rsß co. 11. . .T 00,,,,, D. • - 'l.46nrrvitie, 7. - 17 F IT; -'tinter, • 1 • r• Keatin g, Ti. . • Sot heron, T. Ceiville, C. R. . ../ce,„1,411, K. Spooner. R. t . cirr.r,ll. T. L. - K , h , ay. • - Station!, A. Cotton, sNor W. • Kerri n, Sir E. Sl:inner% .f. C. , wati, C. . Wetilisv a, J. - Stanley. Lord Cowper, W. F. Kin', .7. - Star , S tie. Le G. ortieferd, E. 11. J. K,,,,,1rti. A. . • steel. J. Crossley, F. Kirk W, . Stephenson. R. Cithitt, W. • Knatedrall. W. Stirling, W. D tstiwoo.r. Str 0. TI. K,ll,ght. F. Stroll, E. Davie, Sir ii. IL F. Knightley. Ti. Stewart, Sir M. Deed es, W. Knox, (7 , 11. It. W. StnArt, W. Denison, J. E. • Knox. W. S. Stillman, Michael Dent, J. Labotichere,Rt.llon.ll Sutton, . 5 . Derin, Sir E. Lamston, J. ii. Talbot, C. Ito Vere, S. Lqnt ton, W. Tattered, TT. Disraeli, B. Le"h, G. C. Taylor, Col. Dive:t, E. Leslie, C. r. Thesiger, Sir F. i rod, J. W. Lewis, Sir G. C. Thornely, T. Drunnlanrig. Viscount . 1.4th..)1, H. G. Thornhill, W. Drummond, 11. Litel , ay. Col. J. Tr,lll, O. Duckwor.h, dir J. T. Littleton, 1.7,,. Trallope, Sir J. !hill', G. Lockhart, A. E: Tudway, R. Duff, J. Lockhart, W. Tyler, Sir 0. Duke, Sir J. Lovaine, Lord Vane, Lord 11. Duncan, Viscount T owilrr, Capt. Vansittart, G. Duncan, G. Lece, T. Verner, Sir IV. Duncombe,Hon. A. I,u-thin:ton, Q. - Vernon, G. Dencornbe, 0. Lytton, Sir G. 'Vernon, L. Div:Com - he, TIon.W. 31aenrtney, G. Villiers, C. Dundas, F. . Macgregor, Jas. Vy.se, Col. Dungatvan, Viscount arming, It. Walcott, Admiral East, Sir J. Mandeville, Via. Walpole, S. Egerton,Sir P. , Manners, Lord G. Wsterpark, Lord Egerton, E. C.. Manners, T,ord J. Welby, Sir G. Ellice, E. March, Earl of Wells, W. Elliot,l. Marjoribitriks, D. West. F. Elnilev, Via. Martin, S. Whatman, J. Emlyn, Vie. Massey. W: ‘Vhitbread. 8. Fsmonde,J. If asterman, J. Whitmore, Ti. Evelyn, W. Matheson, A. IVlcklutm, IL W. Ewart, W. Matheson, Sir J. Wilkinson, W. Evart, J. Maxwell, J. WiLiams, 111. Farnham, E. li mix, Sir 11. Wilson, J Fairer, J. Miles, IV. Wilmington. Sir T. Fenwick, IT. Milligan, R. Wood, Sir C. Ferguson, Col. 'slllls, T. 'Wyndham. (len. Ferguson, Sir R. Milner, W. Wyndham. H. Fergusson, Sir J. Moffatt, G. Wynn, Lieut.-Col. Muer, sir E. Molesworth, Sir W. Wynne, W, Fitz Gerald, Sir J. Monck, Viscount Wyvill, M. Fitz Gerald, J. Fitzroy, 114. Floyer, J. Follett, B. CI Reed..T. Roebuck, Z. Scholefleld. W. Scohell, Cap t Scatty, v, * * Smith, J. B. 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Barry Du Barry & Co., 77, Regent-street, London ; also at Piccadilly; 60, Graccehareh-street ; 330, and 451, Strand; 4, Cheapside ; BO and tB, Cornhill ; 49, Bishopsgate-street; 55, Charing-cross; 54, Upper Baker-street; 63 and 150, Oxford-street ; 89, High-street, Camden-town ; 18, Pall. mall; 7, Pall-mall-East; 132, New Bond-street; 24, Mot - comb-street ; 13, King William-street, City 30, Condur... street; 21, Cockspur-street ; 95, Farriugdon-street ; 67, St. Paul's Churchyard ; 6. Edward-street, t !nal reu are. [Lemma:east.] Tee WAR IN TINS EAST. —POWERFUL PATENT RECONNOITRING GLASSES.— Messrs. S. and B. Solo mons, opticians, 39, Albemarle-street, Piccadilly. ()beery° opposite the York Hotel. By her Majesty's Ro e o ad w n d e 1. pf through n e s a cdc them—oftibrillianty e G sgreat, Telescopes,to knowino the distances t ß ot h o Letters Patent for valuable and extraordinary improvements 3 ce o i e u f o u o t i i i ir t 8 0 Opera, and army, navy, and others. These telescopes possess a such extra ordinary powers that some 3i inches with piece, will show distinctly Jupiter' , an extra eye s moons, Saturn's ring, and the double stars ; with the same telescope can be Seen a person's countenance three miles and a half distant, and an object from 16 to 20 miles. They art of larger and al. sizes, with increasins 'rowers accordingly ; while their vary ing from 4 to 6 inches enable us to discover more than the above, and the Georgian, with his 6 satellites, &c.—The Royal E xhibition, 1861.—V a l 1351,—Valuable, nwY e 1 invented, very small, powerful waistcoat-pockettlass,thesize of a walnut, by which a person can be seen and known 1 miles distant ; they answer every Purpose on the race-Course a nd at the opera house., co untry scenery, a n d s hi ps are clearly seen at S to 10 miles. They arc invaluable fot shooting, deer-stalkipg, yachting, to sportsmen, gentlemen, gamekeepers , and ' tourists. Opera, race ourae, camp, and perspective glasses, with wonderful power.--N ewly-construeted Spectacle Lenses of the great / . est transparent power. The valuable becoming advantage derive. impaired is from this invention is, that vis ion preserved and stroll , gthened and very aged persons ar 3 enabled to employ their sight at tho most minute occi, tion can sec with these leases of Pa a much less magnify_ do not require the frequent changes ing power—and they to the dangerous effects of further powerful assistance. D ee '. • —N ow Discovery. ness-:Orgaille Vibrator, an extraordi nary powerful, small, newly - invented instrument for deafne ss , • t from all others, to surpass anything of th e kind d g kind that has been, or probably ever call be, produced. Being of the same colour as the skin, is not perceptible ; it enables deaf persons to heat distinctly at church and at public .asseniblies ; the tinPleasaut sensation of singing -wises in the ears is entirely removed ; and it affords all the assist. ance that possibly could be desired. 39, Albcrearle-itreet, coodiuy. Observe-opposite sue York LW' TELLEIte Larard, A. H. Clifford, Col. 11. M. PilE SUN, LoNDON TUtISDAY EVENING, JUNE io 1866,