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id 1 1 obloquy in this country ? They could not but feel convinced that the Governments not only of this b ut of their own countries, were engaged iu the Persecution of that illustrious Princess. He re ferred to page 12,1 of Barbara Kress, where it Would be f oun d t h at two Ambassadors only were busilyth engaged i n pac ki ng up, an d sen di ng o ff at valuable piece of goods, and which had been duly landed on our grateful shores by the zealous care of Baden and De Grimm, whose glorious and reputable employment was to collect wit /a"ses for this Bill. Under all these circum stances he contended that there were substantial - r e minds f or b e li eving that undue influence h ad h e t' employed. When they saw that means were "shl to compel and enforce the attendance of wit tileesses, their L or d s hi ps cou ld not but conclude i'lat th ese failing, others would not be left un ri''(}. On this subject he would call their Lord 'iPs' att en ti on to the manner in which t h e case the remuneration bee n con d ucted on their side with respect to r emuneration of the witnesses ; but their Lord fs "Ps would h ave remarke d t h e un i versa l sp i r it Of urgetfuluess which p erva d e d th e m i n ds o f all the ;"' itu esses after the exorbitant rate received by •; e C aptain and M a t e came t o th e ir knowledge. `after that n one o f t h e w i tnesses wou ld a ll ow tthat he recei ve d any t hi ng . H a d th e y no t b een , he and clamorous to obtain information on this ! t ' u mt, but had it no t b een as c a utiously•and in ftstriously withheld ? At the close of his Learn -11,, I "riend, t h e Attorney- G eneral ' s case, h e ap - Z d t° the House for delay, on the ground of ti -ue sses not y e t arr i ve d. Why, as in ordi dlr.)" eases hi th e C our t s b e l ow , did he.not pro the Solicitor, or some accredited person at:- i' t ' - `"tited with the case, and the manner in which as got up, t o state his belief that these wit ti-sses Were important to the case ? The reason , s("ubtle„ was, to prevent their obtaining that tl a i ti , s a ra , c , t °rY informa . ti . ( , i which should convince Po that their suspicions were unfounded. Mr. v. we n, for instance, could have entirely satisfied °II this head. In the realm of Italy, as in 'ti e -r ,?' °tiler, no doubt there were consciences to s•ou,ve, ; and as it was suspected that money t Youl Uee ilemployed, and lavished -openly, it 'ftve been . as well to have cleared the to ' t t ) l -ru P• He then made some observations as p ort t,' natu re ' of the witnesses called in sup s of the Bill, whom he considered generally • I•v4 rt hless characters, and . that the whole case .j3 t ° 9 tided and grounded in perjury. Her Ma l - Y Wa s scareful and cautious as to have a . .• 4y , s o xxi o , t su mebody by to witness her most . open,.. P r ofligate, and most disgusting familiarities. • t his be beli ev ed ? Is it possible that her P a le 'tY can be supposed to have forgotten I. 06? •that Your L or d s hi ps rea dil y an d eas il y b e li eve EilLs she as ignorant of - spies being at the time 11 e 1 ; ( " x uu ding her, offering bribes to her servants ? aiesty knew it, and yet she exposed her fif te eg ‘ the evidence is to be believed) to num } - et w r hen any familiarity took place between and Bergami. He came to the evidence i of ;at ' :, who swore that the entrance tot was- th ''S room from her Majesty's apartment r gh the t:l4d a cabinet, and their Lordships con f that that was the only communication her M a j es t y ' s r oo m to Bergami's ; but it that "a t out, instead of being as Majocci described, I vl r o t ` t ere was another way of communication, It t , t t , Le there was no person who could have seen i ik , ci g ,": i "g to Bergami's room. In page 39, l a- sta tes, that there might be another source -" ' T nunication from the Princess's room to ' 6 o r r r rni 's• It was also found out that in the Where Majocci had sworn that he was fe t, t rug, in b e d , w h en h er M a j es ty passed through 4 :4 4 : 1 , t there was no b e d i n it, but only a sofa, ikic, i s 'ere was also a fire in the room ; .and Ma "l,As:s d uty was to watch, and not sleep, fdr he loYed to sit Up during Bergami's vl 'Se illness. ss }ter M a j es t y w i s h e d t o e x pos e her guilt to 4 la rt r ,, v4ti ° l l, would she have gone through an \qe,t-sfit where there was a person watching, c) rt ,,, there w as a way toy Bergami's room by a t'v,: - ' u nicati on through which, as site passed, no kai, "l . l d have seen her ? The statement of 111,xiue-eci was contrary to reason an d pro b a bility.. \ ver e P ''as asked if the Princess's apartments I do dis tant from Bergami's room ?—He replied, trioLremember. Do you not know where gt e family slept ?—I remember , where the and Bergami slept, but not et;:y body tilat h I remember. This witness first swore %v , „k-•r; • d• id not k now w h e th er th e a partments ear ordistant : and afterwards he swore - len • '• new where the apartments were. Ile i nto the evidence given of what took 4 1 4 , tat ell arnitz—contended that her Majesty, rr,Hr e lbeep described to have undressed, had 110 trio : ` a • l ' e n off her blue riding habit, and had Ir e w as h g o ne One to b e d i n her ordinary way, than tu ent ‘ , 4 1 - ", bed at th a t m o ment. 'That the state licti bad b een made was false, would ap pear b the p t .'. au d by e . T o w h a t h a d b een sai d of ~bouldit l r lees s hav ing re p o sed at that time, he gn at t -4% e occasi on aga i n t o recur, as there fence e ne dea l of ev id ence — o f t r i um ph an t evi -4,ltre) th ank God for the Queen. Had his T ull 1 Oil ll Friend examined the witnesses more 4 P Y this subject, the House would have been ° ll s e ses2i " of inure of the real facts of the case. examination had been inadverte:Ltly clos \vk'six could excuse it if his Learned Friend 111 f=r e ( , ) , t aw are of the real character of what had the rr , e tl, it :;hewed a r emarkable ignorance I ' l 4 . , and if he did, then he could only 41 )st• • eas e • ' ll4 'A from going further to make his ble s L l t r i o it i ( i , , e , r . a rit c this did not appear to •• 4 t o 0 , fair towards her Majesty the H i tL r li t ' h iLt ha d been assumed that her Majesty,when "'tut' e te nt, Was undressed ; (he then read over a l' i t i ' r Pos t e n ( e )f e s \ i i den . ce at pages 30-0 . and 3'21, for the " clewing that the witness had stated ( I f e i c "id not recollect whether she had un lit, (le r 711 • her to or . not, after previously re it., to have been undressed as usual.) hail been examined before at Milan fi,ll "4.and and been t'L l , 15 4 n o i jea _ ; ' Sworn to her evidence, Li, • •L,. e dof before —or only heard of to be Ali uPon, and reprobated. After this (in te I 'l r.N.{, .learned Gentletnau), was it quite fair *I"tY to leave it to be inferred that she was undressed when she was left under the tent? It was only by attention to minute circumstances that the truth could be ascertained, and in this instance the usual operations of time, the loss of witnesses, And other events, might have pre. vented the real facts of the case, and to these circumstances he would therefore entreat—he would implore—and, their Lordships would ex cuse the language, but on the part of his mis tress, her Majesty the Queen—he would demand their attention. in the examination in chief of the witness, whose evidence was the subject of his comments, did she state the fact which she had subsequently stated, or did she not ? If she did not, she concealed an important fact, and, to avoid an odious monosyllable, he would say that she had committed a double entendre on oath. At all events, she had stopped short in a way most injurious to her Majesty. At Naples, her Majesty had been charged with assuming the character of the Genius of History at a masque rade. The examination on this subject ran thus : Q. Dia her Majesty chnne her dress entirely ?—A. Yes. Q. Di I you as.ist her ?—A. I dia not. Q. Did you then know any thing about it?--A. No, I did not ; fur I was nut in the room. What the witness meant by an entire change of dress was not further explained, and the answer given to the leading, or rather to the (trivia , question put to the witness, was left against her Majesty, and seemed to intimate that she taken off every particle of her dress when she ....eat into the room. Ile had now to call the attention of their Lord 'Ships to the slimming up of tire Solicitor-General, who had di:played not Merely the Zeal of an Advocate, but la some in stances the imagination of a Poet. He then contended, that on his part it Was not quite fair to leave, as he had done, certain- unexplained parts of the evidence to operate against the *teen, which, when understood, it would be seep iu no way supported the charges preferred against her M'ajr , ify. When Majoeci, whom their Lordships had not forgotten, and whose name never would be forgotten while the English nitrite and the English language endured, had been first examined, it was supposed that he had just come to thi's country for The first time. Which of their Lord ships believed that he had been in Gloucestershire, in Lon don,and elsewhere in England before ? It was only from casual information that they learned Majocei had been in England before. He stood at the bar, as it was supposed, as (lull as a post to the questions asked, till they were put through the interpreter, all of which, or nearly all, he understood very well without his aid, and took advantage of the delay which this mode of examining hint occasioned to frame his answer. Why. was it' not previously made known to their Lordships that he had been in England ? This could not have injured the prosecution, but it might have enabled them to inquire into the character of Majoeci ; that might have done something for the Queen, and might have damaged hitn, and thereby served, it not saved the realm of England. Those things which he had noticed might have occurred inadvertently, but it was remarkable that all these accidents were on one side. The Captain, who would shortly go hack to his home loaded with 'honours and wealth that would surprize his countrymen, had, it seemed, an unsatisfied and disputed demand upon Bergami, it) respect of that voyage. This he apprehended must have been known, and he would ask, did not this encourage a sur mise. that he would riot be quite an impartial witness, when the (lace!) was on one side, anti the Government who paid him so well on the other? He now returned to what had been said of the Queen's assuming the character of the Genius of Mc:ny at a Masquerade, and had to notice the com mentary of the Solicitor-General on that most memorable, but as it would turn out, most frivolous and contemptible incident. The Solicitor-General had assumed that her Ma jesty had retired to change her dress entirely, leaving her chamber-maid in an anti-room, while the Courier retired with her to her bed chamber, where he remained during the whole time she was changing her dress. This was nut borne out by the evidence. And having beard the devout peroration of his Learned Friend, in which he hoped the Queen would come triumphantly through the inquiry, he was surprised that he should task his imagination to produce this bold asahmation— this gratuitous charge—this false statement—this tact that was untrue, and which should be proved to be untrue. He had further stated, that the Queen rem4itted linked up with Bergarai for an hour. This was another gratuitous assertion. It had been stated, and had been Sworn by the witness Du mont at Milan, though 'she 'did 'nut venture to swear it here, that the dress her Majesty wore as the Genius of History was gross, indecent, and disgusting. This was un true'; it had not been proved in evidence ; it had been asserted by the Attorney-General, but their Lordships had not, and could not, call upon her to disprove that which had not been proved by her Majesty's accusers. When Dumont was asked about the dress wore at the Theatre St. Carlos, at Naples, by her Majesty, which dress had been stated to hare been grossly indecent, she said, it was ill shaped, it Was ugly, and there it ended. Dumont did swear that tier Majesty had excited the indignation of the audience, and had been hissed off by them. Butt this was a fact which could 'easily have been proved by more than one witness, and which by more than one witness lie would prove to he basely false, and completely . unfounded. In swearing so, she had committed a wicked, abominable, and atrocious false hood, because, to a mighty people, it was a dangerous false hood. He ‘llol.lld IIOW call their Lordships' attention to the curious coincidence that Majocci's memory should be of the same description :—memory all on one side, not an or dinary, not a natural, but he would say, an impossible me mory. He would give instances which would make it es clear as that the sun was not gone down, that a man might be guilty of as palpable perjury in a negative shape as in the shape of commission. lie should refer their Lordships to page 6, and page 40 of Majocci's evidence. In page fi g it was intended to strow that the Queen had visited Bergami whilst he was sick, and in order to drive her Majesty to call that persons as a witness, Majocci, who usually avoided naming indivi duals, had condescended to mention Dr. Holland as one of the parties present. At the bottom of page 39, it would be seen that he had been asked in cross-examination, whether Bergami walked up and down his room ; this he, of course, cupid not remember. In page 40, the following question would tie found; " Was Berganii att etlth:d by any medical man ?" What said that ever memoraide and trust-worthy, Non nu ricurdo, to this ? He had the audacity to pervert again his memory, because the atfeet would be against the Queen, and to swear that he did not remember whether Dr. Holland attended or rot, though be had previously sworn that Dr. Holland was present ? 0 impartial memory of Majoeci ! 0 memory all eo one side, that could recollect and forget as he pleased ! Was not this a wilful, wick ed, and pernicious misrepresentation of truth ?—He would now advert to a most singular amendment in the memo ry of another witness ; of Dumont, who, after t epeated di Ming, had at last become efficient. When he had first cross exami tied her, not a word about doulde entendre had escaped her lips. She mentioned is letter siren to her at tea by an unknown person, and it fortane to be raised in the capital of Europe, bat it was not until after she had held a eonsulta• tion not one hundred miles distant limn that house, and had taken daring a whole night counsel from her pillow, that she made ally attempt to explain away her statements, by repre senting them as doable entendres. The next morning, how ever, before any questions had been putt to her on the subject, she stated that she had an explanation to give with respect to those letters, and out it came in the shape of a bet speech, a per fect oratiou, having a 11 CglIMIllg, a middle, and all end, like those of Cicero or of hisLearued Friend the Attorney-General, the only man X1)0111 it WaS fitting to name after the Roman ora tor. She alit. wished the House to helleve,that she had spent to time in any other room than that, but had immediately gone home ant,' her examination ; and yet afterwards, she would not swear that she had not remained two, nay even five hours up stairs before she ultimately retired. And at to the double entendres in her letters, could any matt see, if she corresponded by signs with her sister, haw they were to be unravelled?— There s'VaS nut the least shadow oh a Shade to explain how that correspondence could be conducted by cyphers. Notwith standing all her ingenuity, and she had ingenuity enough, would it he hdieVid that she did not know what was meant by the Capital of Europe, and that she understood her ohscure village of c a t ara ta a , to which, for the honour and welfare of Engrain!, be wished that Providence had for ever confined her? But it was unnecessary to urge this topic further, it was only heating grown that which was already fel u .de-se. The Learned Gentleman t hen read Duinont's letters, which so highly praised her Niajesty for all the cardinal virtues. Did this honest waiting-maid write this under a cypher, or did she nut? Was it iutended as it fraud:lle-at cover to another and us malignant meaning ? Was it improbable that she should en tertain the sentiments which she so warmly expressed? He had heard it reported of a Gentleman of no mean capacity, of a most classical taste, and well known for his intimate acquaint ance with ancient authors, that he had represented her Ma• j e sty as " the grace, life, and ornament of all societies in which she moved." Wits that spoken in joke also? Was it really meant ar was it uttered too with a mental reservation ? He believed 1 that it was sincerely felt and sincerely spoken, and that , after sash an authority had spoken in favour of her Majesty, all that WAS weld in the inferior composition of her chamber maid could not be considered as either extravagant or in credible. It was ooly of ;ate that she had malignantly and wilfully sinned against her better nature, which iiiclined her to feel and to express gratitude towards her mistress. And he would believe what she had written, and not what she had asserted, when, after a night of reflection, she had learnt by lies and misrepresentations to get the better of her own truth. Unwilling to waste the time of the Lords by directing their attention to parts of the evidence which were really of little 11111portante, he should beg leave to refer to an important de clar aloft made in the course of the proceeding by his Learned Friends, the Attorney and Solicitor General. lie referred to the first declaration with pleasure, because lie was enabled to bear his banible testimony, if his Learned Fs iends thought it worth their acceptance, to the liberality it disclosed. 'Flie At toreey General, after spealsieg of the pains with which the Counsel fur the Bill had arranged the case against her Nlajesty, stated, that they had undertaken to bring forward the evi dence with a just anti adequate sense of what was due to the proceeding arid the dignity of that Haus, 'Elie Solicitor- General said, all the materials, and many parts of the evi dence which, in their opinion, did nut bear on the case, had be e n passed over; lint every part of the evidence which they thought material to the question they had offered. They con sidered it their duty fairly and Gandidiy to present such evi dence only. They did not consider themselves bound to do more than present the case fairly and honestly. Although this panegyric, made on tburnselves, might have sonic effect on the House, his Learned Friends had departed from the spirit of liberality which appeared to actuate than at the commencement of the proceedings. They had lint offered that evidence which the accusation against a (Intel! required. When he heard the statement of the Attorney- Chin:rat, lie was led to believe the conrse lie intended to go was praiseworthy. He was led to believe the 1,14 e would not be managed like the case of an adverse party in the Courts below, where the lowest of the profession inMo tainesi a struggle under fisie.sse for the petty consideration of costs. fie expected it was to be a case in which they were to have the whole truth, arid nothing but the truth. Notwith standing the intention expressed to call witnesses to prove the case at once, his Learned Friends had omitted to call a single witness, with the exception of the Naval °dims, who were entitled to credit. His Learned ' , Fiend, to his great surprise, had thrown out no less than four challenges, calling upon the Counsel for the Queen to bring forward four witnesses. 'fumy were told to call Louis Bergami, Bartolorno 13ergami, and two others. The Solicitor-General at the sante time told them if they did call those persons, the Counsel fur the Bill would get the verdict. What, he might ask, had become of the wisdom of his Learned Friends which Ire had been proving? was this the way the people ut England and their Lordships were to be treated? Where was Du mont's sister? Where was Dr. Rutland and the many re spectable persons about the Queen, at the time the charges were said to be in existence ? Why were they nut called ? Marty of them were in England and competent witnesses. They ought to have been called, and they were nut called. The wisdom of his Learned Friends was wanting. It was not found in practice. It stood only in words. They acted as CounSel might be expected to act in a case at Nisi Prius, where the parties were contending for costs. However the evidence might bear, it was unfair, in a case of this im portance, to turn 1 . 01311 d on her Majesty, and say I defy you to call this person and the other. In civil cases, if one party did not call witnesses, the other was at liberty to call them; but in civil or criminal cases, the party coining forward its the accuser should make out their own case. In a civil case, the neglect to do so was in favour of the opposite party. The costs would be governed, perhaps, by the contest in such a case; but here the question was not about costs, but whether they should take from his Illustrious Client her reputation and rights. In a (;riniirial Court, a mancstivre of this descrip tion would not be meritorious ; lint in the present case, it must be want of gentlemanly feeling. In such a case as the present, when The scales were to be held even, it was tot/ much to be asked, why don't you call this person or the other, who were written as it were on the link of the indict ment. Counsel fur the prosecution might, therefore, have called them. Why were they kept back ? because they would f destroy the case of accusation. — If • I Was Prosecuting a roan, said Mr. ‘Villiains, 'for mur der, and I 11,1t1 a witness in my brief who would fa vour the prisoner, and I refused to call him, I should consi der myself, in case the man was executed, guilty of murder. He might ask whether there was, from the beginning of the world to the present time, one act more criminal than that which stripped a Queen of her honour and rights. Why were they in this criminal proceeding to depart from the course laid down in the appropriate address of his Learned Friend ? Pro per.evidence,should be called in support of the accusation. — That was the humane principle of the Law of England. He should contend that the witnesses his Learned Friends had refused to call , could not be called fur the Queen. They were nut to try this question upon ptinciples applicable to suits fur the recovery of small debts. It was a cause in which kingdoms and empires might be at stake. [Here Williams apologized for heat in the argument.] It any thing indecorous escaped him, he begged the Lords to impute it not only to his zeal for his Royal Client, but the interest of the nation, which called upon the House to pause before they gave a verdict against the Queen upon the evidence offered at their bar. The Solicitor-General had said he would defy Its Learned Friend to call Louis Berg:nisi, or liartolosno Ber ganti. If he did, the Counsel fur the Bill would get a ver dict. He protested against that conclusion. It was said the Queen and 13erganii breakfasted together, and the Attorney- General observed, if the fact was disputed, they might call Louis Bergami. He should say, in answer to that ob servation, that there was DU proof that Louis Bergallli sits Witll the parties at the time alluded to. The circumstance was nut of the slighest importance ; but it was a specimen of the legerdemain, the slight of hand dexterity front whence it came. They were asked, Why don't you call Bartulo wo If you du, we shall get a verdict. Nose what was the common sense of this challenge ? They knew that he could riot be called, because his testimony would have little weight from the situation *to which he was sup posed to be placed. This was a quibble only fit fur the lowest professors of the law, in the lowest Courts. It was not fit to be urged before their Lordships. The challenge then, had no meaning, and those who were caught by it must prove a putty understanding. He stood forward to say, in a case of impoitance like this, that the management of the prosecution was unworthy the wisdom of the Legisla ture, and the political character of the House of Lords.— It ought never to be forgotten they were not only en trusted with the law, but they were legislating on ree interests of this great empire. The analogy which had been so olten introduced between the ordinary tribunals and the proceeding in that H o upon the-Bill of Pains and Pe nalties, was nut established. There was no analogy be tween the ordinary tribunals and the House of Lords. In prosecutions for uttering forged notes Mitt other crimes, they had only to prove the fact, and there was an end of it. The conclusion was governed by the statute lave of the land, but where did they hod the same control in that House ? If their Lordships were riot governed by statutes in the proceeding be fore than, could it be said there was any analogy between their proceedings and the ordinary Courts ? The Lords, in their legislative character, were above the law. Whether the Bill would pass or not was uncertain, but lie should contend there was no analogy between this proceeding arid the lit,/ of the land. A legislative measure, arid a legislative inquiry, were both before then) at the sante time. The House !Orat ing an high tribunal was not confined by losing and usages founded upon the ordinary principles of law witich govern ed the stilijects of the country. They ought to hear no more of analogy, which iu every particular stated Wits against the Queen ; and it had nu bearing unless it brought the whole of the question to the enlightened wisdom f their Lordships. The Learned Counsel then contended, that the nun-production of evidence, which ought to have been called in support of the case against the Queen, was to be considered Weakness on the part of the accusers. It a case of such high interest, their Lordships would certainly give tier the benefit of that di ficiency. She was not only entitled to law butt equity. Witnesses far the Queen would now be called in the sitme 1113111Iti, as if the challenge had not been made, arid with respect to those witnesses, he begged distinctly to be understood, that wits...! they appeared, I hiny would out hi/drilled as the witnesses had been who were called in support of the accusation. The witnesses on the other stile had ecru three years in Witch he considered the e xamination the witnesses underwent before the commission at Milan, and other exarninatious abroad a n d at hair, hit Learned Friends might he supposed to iillO W the statement ot each to the very letter. They must have known to a tittle what enemy witness would say. i t "' tit( ' ""t lie supposed that the minute advantage tad been acquired b y the c o uns e l. Queen's — The Eat]. Of LAUDERDALE rose, and observed, that as the Counsel was proceeding on a new topic, and as the time for rising drew near, it might be advisable to adjourn before he proceed ed further. The House then adjourued till to-morrow (this day.) LONDON JOURNALS. (DAILY EXTRAICTS.] FROM THE MORNING PAPERS. [Morning Chronicle.] The speech of Mr. BROUGHAM cannot fail to produce a strong impression on the millds of ,the people of this country. As a display of ell quence it will bear a comparison with the most celebrated efforts of any age. We know 'n'ot whether most to admire the powers or the judg ment and taste of the speaker. It would be dif ficult to name an instance, in the history 9f mo dern eloquence at least, in which high excellence was so totally free from the alloy of imperfec tions. In some of 'the most celebrated displays of late times, it is impossible tpt to perteive that the speaker was as often thinking how he should himself appear to the highest advantage, as how he should best promote the interest of hiS The most admired flights of Curran, for instance, may frequently be said to be flights from the case of his client, calculated rather for the gratifica tion of an unconcerned audience, than for pi ducing a suitable impression on those whom 'be was more immediately addressing. Even in the celebrated speech of Sheridan, in the case of Warren Hastings, at least in all the versions of it which have yet been published, there is often a good deal of turgidity and mis placed appeals to the feelings—a good deal of straining after glaring imagery. From these dulcia villa Mr. Brougham is perfectly free.— It may be truly said of him, that he never utters a sentence which is not dichaed by the interest of the party for whom he is contending. Mr. Brougham, in commenting on the evidence, point- , ed out s first, how miserably it had fallen short of the statements of the Attorney-General ; a circumstance which of itself proved, that the wit nesses must have, on their former examination on oath, told a different story, and consequently was conclusive against their credibility ; and, secondl v, that all the principal witnesses had contradicted themselves in several material parts, stated various palpable falsehoods, and pretended to forget circumstances which they could IlDt fail to have remembered. lie contended that it •was only necessary for him to convict a witness of falsehood in part of his statement, to destroy the credit of the rest of it ; for the statements of the most mendacious witnesses are always interwoven with a certain portion of truth. It will hardly he contended that it is necessary to prove that every statement of a witness is false ; and the question in Bach a case, therefore, reduces itself to what portion of falsehood shall be taken as decisive against his credibility-. Of course the motives and inducements to give false evidence will always be taken into account, in every fair decision on the value of the testimony. [New limel.] The great anxiety which was felt for the chive lopment of Mr. BROUIAM'S PLAN of DEFENCE for her MAJESTY has hitherto been mach disap pointed. He certainly avows in the strongest terms his conviction of her Majesty's entire in nocence and purity; nay, he asserts (what is cer tainly not the fact) that every body agrees iu that opinion. Ou the contrary, even the Cotri mon Council of London, a body sufficiently dis posed to do her Majesty ail justice, did agree, that at present there is a prima jiacie case of guilt made out against her, subject (of coarse) to be repelled by stronger evidence in her defence. The Learned Gentleman's declarations even of his own persuasion were in no small degree weak ened by his remark on the duty of an Advocate. We have no doubt he will discharge his duty fully, and perhaps will even go further than some Gentlemen in his situation might think ne cessary. Be this as it may, he professes to idea , tify himself so entirely with his Royal Client, that his declarations of her innocence amount to not a jot more than her oirp plea of Not Guilty would, if such a plea were receivable. Still less weight can we attach to a topic which occupied great part of the introduction to the Learned Gentleman's speech, and to w Mai he reverted, again at its close : we mean the apprehensions which he laboured to impress on their Lordships' minds that to decide this great and solemn question one way rather than the other would be agreeable to the populace. This argument, when closely sifted, would amount, to what we are sure the Learned Gentleman could not intend—an in timidation of the Noble Tribunal. We will nut say that the People have nothing to do with the laws but to obey them, but we will say the duty of the People will be to obey this law if it should pass, and that the contrary doctrine (which has been held out in some of her Majesty's Ala swers) is directly treasonable. Our fear, we own, is, that arguments of so very dubious a complec tien may unconsciously crate a bias itt the minds, of the Noble Lords against the Queen ; for it is rather difficult to conceive that a perfect and se , cure reliance on the innocence of an accused party, and on the integrity of the Judges, can permit the mind to wander for a moment to any thing like a threat of external force. Mr, Brougham very properly made such observations as oc curred to him on several particulars in the evi dence in support of the Bill. We cannot say that Nve go along with him in those remarks, but still it was his duty to make them. Vakunt quantum valere possint. Still there was a vast mass of evidence which he left untouched; ifor could we gather that he distinctly announced any inten , tion of controverting a great part or it. He was Very severe on the nose and mouth of One of the witnesses, from which, by some rules of physiog nomy, he deduced a consequence which appeared to its to have extremely little to. do with .the m erits of the case, and the less so ) as he says t he certainly can contradict that . one witness. rig promises also to produce Mademoiselle Dernont's bister, but he seems by no means conlident that tier evidence will very much strengthen his case. The evidence for her Majesty will now be brought forward) and as we have not by antici