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Tam of - tanning down any patt !dr Windsor Castle.—(Hear, ,fear 1)--lt never was in the -contemplation of any body that "" he knew of. With-regard to the Noble Lord, of whom his Noble Relation opposite had spoken, he begged to assure 1 him, that there -- never was any idea of making the Commis sioners to whom the plans would be referred responsible for •the expence of those plans. He had understood the Right Hon. Member for Corfe Castle (Mr. Bankes) to say that it was intended to hold Courts at Windsor. Now he knew of no each project. -No such thing was in contemplation beyond the receiving of large bodies of people perhaps upon any particular occasion. Neither was it m contemplation to alter the south front of the Castle. It would be left the same as when built by Edward the Third, and as such he admitted it was a most per fect piece of architecture. He agreed also that the altera tions should be kept as much as possible in the taste ,Of the original building. But then it should be recollected that the arouse and-origin of the. building were different from. its pre- : gent purposes—it was built as a place of defence, although it was how nothing more than a great dwellitig-house. So far, therefore, as was consistent with the modern uses of a castle would the alterations be in the taste - of the original design. As 10 the production of a plan, it was very well•known that it was not always those who could give • a good plan upon paper that were able to carry that plan into effect. It was not, therefore,. so easily done, but it was certainly understood that the expence was not to - exteed 300,000/. The Architects had been told that no plan they could form was to go beyond . this • sum. But if his Majesty were to reside at Windsor a considerable sum must be laid out to make it a commodious residence,. and he trusted that the alterations would be more fortunate than those which had taken place in preceding reigns. Lord JOHN RUSSELL thought the contradictory reports circulated on the subject of the proposed alterations an argil...! ment'in:favour of postponement. By votingnhe money with out a plan, if the Chancellor of th e Exchequer' were to disap prove ors:lie:plan produced, no'one would ever kpow what be came of the money. He thought the Crown labfis, and not the public; ought to provide for such an undertaking. Mr. 'lll ABER LEY called on:the Chancellor of the Excite . quer to state, whether this - grant of 150,0001. were demanded as partof the 300,0001. mentioned on a - former-occasion, or part of a million or indefinite sum. He was sorry to put any restriction on. the taste or convenience of his Majesty ; but it was part of the duty of' that House towards the public. The Penitentiary and the Caledonial Canal were specimens of what improvldent uses might be made of public money, without a proper controu/ off the part of' that House. TheItHANCELLOR.SOf the EXCHEQUER said, he was glad tcf see so ready a . diipnsition on the part of the House to . provide - for the comforts of the Monarch. It could not but be satisfactory to thoSe who loved the ancient Monarchy of the Kingdom, at the same time that it gave great credit to the libe rality of.the House. Ile was not calling; upon the house for a vote towards any indefinite sum ; but for 150.0001. on account towards 300,000/. Ile had no reason to suppose die expence . would exceed that amount. The architects had been told that there was so much money for them to effect their arrangements, . and that no more could be spared, and he did not know how they . could proceed upon a fairer course than this. He had never stated that there was any intention of disfiguring the outside of the, Castle. It was only intended to. pull down- those buildinga which had been pat up to the disfigurement of -the original structure, but there V77.:S no idea of laying unhal lowed Ilan& on the ancient magnificence of the Castle. The . objections sylliclt the attention of the architects was directed were, the want of the communication between the residence of the Sovereign and the State apartments, and the repairs which appeared to bp • - necessary in those apartments. There - were ,many rises in which the money had been voted on account. In the -instance of the British Museum, it had been stated, that no part of the sum to be laid out but in pursuance of a plan for completing the structure. No estimate was furnished, yet the House had consented to vote 40,000/. on account. lie took ..a similar course in asking 150,000/. on the present occasion. Ministers asked it, as the Government who *ere responsible -for what they did: He should be ashamed to ask the House to -trust him in a matter of taste, and it was a matter of satisfac.: -tion to him that he could resort to others for assistance ; but doing this, he had no wish to shelter himself from responsibility. When that was done which was contemplated, he trusted the public would be s a ti s fi e d with it; for though, in such a case, he did not suppose it would be thought necessary to impeach a Minister, or to cutoff' his head, yet he shouldamly give such advice as he thought the House would approve. Ile did not think, upon the whole, that it would be seen there was any reason to quarrel with the course which he had proposed to them to pursue. Mr. ELLICE said the Right Hon. Gentleman had done that side of the House the justice to admit, that they did not object to Windsor Castle being placed in such a condition as should - fit it for a royal residence. But what he wished for was, that whatever sum was voted, should be granted on estimates made by competent persons. Ile objected to the mode of proceeding which had been proposed, and thought the more satisfactory • course would have been to have come down to the House with estimates. He was against depriving the Crown of any of the palaces which now belonged to it ; he, for instance, did not concur with those who desired that the palace at Kew should , be sold to cover the repairs of Windsor Castle, but he did not see why the Crown should remain ground-landlord of the new ".steels.: He was of opinion that granting freeholds there would be better' than taking money liorn the Consolidated Fund at - this moment. This done, taxes might be remitted to the amount _of the sum required for the repairs of Windsor Castle, and the ohject which Ministers had in view might still ire accomplished. Much had been said of the Architects who had lately been en gaged to adorn, or do any thing but adorn, the metropolis and its vicinity ; but he thought nobody could look on the new Church at Chelsea without offering the architect a tribute of applause. It might be objected that it was too narrow, but the answer to this would probably be, that the funds appropriated Tro the undertaking were not sufficieruly ample to admit of its. being finished off as it ought to be in every respect. Such would" probably he the case with respect to Windsor Castle, if that mode of proceeding were preferred which Ministers revs= mended; anti he therefore, wishing to support the plan, feared Ire should be obliged to vote for the amendment. The CHANCELLORof the.EXCHEQUER stated in ex planation, that there were - Considerable difficulties in the way of making those exchanges of property which. had been recom. - mended. He did not say the idea was altogether not worth at tending to, but perhaps the Noble Loril did, not know that ever s:hce the arrangement made at the commencement of the late reign when a certain annual sum was grantttd to the Crown in lieu of the revenue of Isis Majesty's hereditary domains, all th revenue arising from them, all rents, fines' for leases, and every description of profit thence derived, after 'paying the ex. yences of their'collection, and the charge for keeping up the itoyal -Forests were paid to the. Consolidated Find. If then - tie Crown lands were given up, it would be the same thing as taking the money at once from the Consolidated Fund. Mr. CALCRA FT considered the question before them to _bee . whether the 300,0001 called for -would be the limit of the sum requisite for the repairs of -Windeor Castle ? It was agreed .on all-hands that it would be desirable to - make Windsor Castle a a residence for the Sovereign, and such as should induce him generally to reside there ; but he wished to know whether-the Eight Hon. Gentleman could state that the suns asked might he expected adequately to answer the purpose ? If the Right lion. Gentleman' would do that, he (Mr. Calcraft) was ready to vote the suns proposed on account ; but if he would not, rather than embark in an indefinite expellee he would support the Amendment. _ _ The CHANC ELLOR of the. EXCHEQUER said, un doubtedly if the architect whom they consulted - should think the sam of 300,0001. inadequate to accomplish what they wished should be done, it would be highly unwise to incur a portion of the expence without knowing how far they were to be called upon. IT what they wished to effect for the King's comfort could not. be doni—if the architect should say nothing of the kind could be done with the miserable driblet you offer, it would be un, wise, under such circumstances, to touch brick and mortar. CALCRAFT understood then that the Right lion. ,Oectle;nan was against incurring a portion of expence with out knowing what the whole would he, and that which the ILvse desired to effect could he accomplished for that expence. 11Qrd MILTON—As the Right Hon. Gentlemen had. said it would he unwise to incur any expence till it was ascertained that the sum called for would not be inadequate to the purpose for which it was required, thought that he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) himself was bound to vote for the amendment. Before any grant was asked, he was of opinion that Ministers ought to 1.),t prepared with plans and estimates. In the absence -.of these, the Right lion. Gentleman himself ought to vote for the amendment. Mr. MABERLY would vote for the motion, if the Chan- . senor of the Exchequer would pledge himself that all which it was desirable to do could be effected for :300,0001.; but if this was not promised he must vote for the amendment. Mr. 'ecretary CANNING remarked, there appeared to be a general disposition on all sides to concur in any reason a I,le plan, and in any reasonable expence, that would go to maize Windsor an eligible royal residence. The question way, what was the most practicable and useful mode of • controuling the expence to be incurred on this occasion.— The House could proceed in various ways. They might call for plans and estimates to be laid before the House, at tempt to ascertain wh a t th e ex p ence wou ld b e, b u t su bj ect , as every one knew, to that excess on the expence calculated i• pots, which in the end might place them in a less satisfacto y situation than some Gentlemen supposed ; or the "louse might grant a definite sum, and say that beyond that the expence to be Incurred should not extend. He thought every instance refeired to in the course of the present debate, proved the former to be _the least certain mode of proceeding. The Caledonian Canal, and other Public Works, the commencement of which ,sags founded on plans and estimates, had carried them much fur.,l ther than it was originally proposed to go. He therefore con-' tended, that the House would more effectually controul the expenditure, if they did not vote beyond the sum rated to be necessary, and left the application of it to the executive Go vernment on their responsibility. This done the House could watch the progress of the undertaking with more advantage. than if they called for estimates, and acted on their own jag ment with respect to them in the first instance, which hav ing been once done, all further responsibility was at an end. Mr. TIERNEY thought, as no estimates were given, the - ; House - had no security that foi the 300,0001. proposed to be voted, the repairs required could be made. He thought no thing could be more easy than to give estimates. The expences to be incurred must come under three heads :—First, the re pairs of the Castle; secondly, the improvement of the avenues and obtaining possession of certain lands ; and thirdly, furni ture. The expence of the last it might be difficult to calcu ; but for the two former, after once making an agree mint,' it was only - a work of measurement. • In the case of the new Post-office, the proceeding had been to pull down houses. A surveyor had been first examined, who had esti , mated the expence which would be occasioned, but the houses having been pulled down, a further sum was found ne cessary. The Chancellor of the Exchequer and the Right Hon. Gentleman thought the best way was to grant 300,000/., and then no more could be spent. But what was their situation and that of the King? By taking the course proposed they might just spoil all . his Majesty's comforts, and then what would happen? Ministers would be obliged to come down to the House, and say, " We tell you fairly we have spent ail the money, but cannot complete the repairs, so now what are we to do ?" In that case nothing would remain for the House to do but to make a further grant. He was against appearing to oppose a vote of this description, but • he could see no inconve nience that _would attend postponing the Grant till early in May. lithe Chancellor of the Exchequer did this, and then came forward with plans and estimates, if it was necessary he would rather.-vote 500,000/. then, than agree to the resolution before the House now. Mr. EROGDEN remarked that the amendment named a specific day for taking the resolutioa now before the House into consideration. This could not he done in the Committee, but must be appointed by the House. Mr. CA LCRA PT was of opinion, after.what had been stated by the Chancellor of the Exchequer, that the inconvenience :appreliended by the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Tierney) was not to be dreaded. • Mr. TI ER NEY. objected to embarking in expences the limit of which was not known.. He wished to know what inconve nience would.arise from postponing the vote. - Mr. CA IaCRAFf considered the agreeing to the vote was immaterial, as not a shilling of it could be expended at present. Lord MILTON said that depended upon into whose hands the money might get. He thought no grant ought to be called for till Government had made up their minds what should be done. • BEN NET spoke against .the exclusion of the public from the terrace and grounds. It was formerly a most delight ful sight to see the Monarch mixing with his subjects, and to witness the joy which his affability inspired. A further conversation took place, in which Mr. llumE, the CHANCELLOR Of the EXCHEQUER, Lord MILTON, Mr. G. BANKES, Mr. T. WiLsolf, and Mr. C. HuTctuNsox, par ticipated. Mr. Secretary CA NNING remarked, that if the Zion. Gen tleman (Mr. Bennet) had been at Windsor a few-Sundays back, he would have witnessed a renewal of the gaiety which had formerly prevailed. On a Sunday the_terrace was open to the public as formerly. This was not the case in the week, as if it were, the Royal Family would have no private walk in the vicinity of the Castle. For ten years the Terrace had been necessarily shut up. The present exclusion was there fore no sudden innovation, but on the contrary, the partial ad mission of the public was an innovation. He believed the ter race was open on Sundays ; on the Sunday when he was last at Windsor it certainly was. Mr. ABERCROM BY was against making a. grant befbre a plan had been produced. The Committee divi ded, when the numbers were— For the Amendment - 54 Against it - - . 123 Majority —69 The Resolution was carried. When strangers were re-admitted, the following Grants were made : To defray the charge of the disembodied Militia in. England - £195,537 6 To defray the charge of the disembodied Militia , .. in Ireland - - - - 01,771 18 Mr. HUME inquired why so large a Militia force was ne cessary in Ireland ? Lord PA 14M ERSTON stated the - Militia in Ireland to have been rather more reduced in proportion than. the Mititia of England. If the lion. Gentleman wished to make any altera tions, it could not be done in a Committee of Supply ; but the regular mode of proceeding would be to move for leave to bring in a Bill to alter the Militia Laws. The Resolutions Were severally agreed to. The House then resumed, the Chairman reported progress, and the Report was ordered to be read to-morrow. NEW Cfl CIRCH ES The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved. that the House should go ilt.o a Committee on the Church Building Acts. Mr. II UME begged to ask why they were to go into the pro posed Committee ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, he in tended to move a Resolution, recommending a grant of 600,000/. for the erection of New Churches in populous Parishes. Mr. HUME then objected to going into the Committee, as no proper notice had been given of the specific sum to be moved . for. If the Chancellor of the Exchequer meant to deal fairly with the House he would name a future day. Mr. W. COURT ENAY thought the rtnarle of the Hon. Gentleman was not correct. It was known that the Committee was to sit on the Church Building Acts, and after what had been stated at the outset of the Session, he thought every Gen tleman must be aware what the resolution was which was to be proposed. Mr. HUME was aware that such a resolution was to be pro-- posed at some time or other; but from what had fallen from the Right Hon. Secretary for Foreign Affairs, he thought the sum to be called for would not be wanted for two years. Mr. Secretary CANNING said it was perfectly true that he had said the money might not be wanted for appropriation for two years. He had, however, not proposed to defer the grant, but had suggested that the interest accruing on it, or a sum equivalent to it, should be added to it, in furtherance of the object in view. Mr. HUSKISSON stated the course proposed to be pur sued to be the ordinary course. No notice had been given of the specific sum to be asked. But the Committee moved for was a Committee to consider of the expediency of recommend ing such a grant, and not a Committee of Supply. In the Committee every Gentleman could state what course he wished to be pursued, and recommend any other sum to be voted—a larger, a smaller, or none at all. Mr. 110BHOUSE, for one, was not aware that they were to take into consideration this important question that night, and he also had. deceived himself as to what had fallen from the Right Hon. Secretary for Foreign Affairs, and had believed that for the present, at least, Ministers would not call for this profligate vote. Though he had no wish to prevent the people from having every opportunity of frequenting places of public worship, he disapproved of the proposed appropriation of 500,000/. out of the " God-send" received from that excellent character the Emperor of Austria. If the vote were pressed, he should take an opportunity of proposing that the- 500,000/. should beapplied to another purpose in a wa y wnich had been recommended by Mr. Pitt, namely to buy up rotten boroughs. This if done would, in his opinion, effect a great public good. Mr. JOHN SMITH confessed that he had not been de ceived on the present occasion, as he had expected the subject to come on this • night, and would now proceed to state his objections to the principle of the measure. He believed that the people would build for themselves places of worship after the forms of the Church of England, if they had security that when they had done so, _they might be allowed to appoint the persons who were to officiate in them. It was seen that such edifices sprung up all over the country, erected by indi viduals of different persuasions. The same thing would be done by those who were attached to the Church if the law were Ater d. He thought the 500,0001. would be bettetexpended in promoting the education of the poor. If the difficulty with regard to present; tions were done away, the building of churches might be left to the private exertions of the people. In large towns every thing that was necessary would 1 e done;. and if in smaller and poorer places some assistance would be wanted, it could not amount to any thing like 500,000/. fle should therefore protest against the.yote as a most improvident waste of the public money. Sir J. NEWPORT wished to call the:attention of the House to the anomaly in the state of the Law of England and that of Ireland, relating'to the building of Churches ; in Ireland where the population were not interested in the Church Es tablishment, the building of churches was provided for by a tax upon the people ; whereas in England the Legislature were called upon to provide for such expenses. This gave rise to much of the evil to be found in Ireland, and he thought the anomalous state of the law could not be too much impressed upon the House at a time when it was proposed to increase it by so large a grant of the public money. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that it could not be regular to discus a subject. lice thi s , w h en the measure could ony originate in the Committee. Upon the ques ion for the Speaker he tvmg the Chair, Mr. J,A.IFIES said that he should have a petition to present against the measure, and that time ought to be given for par ties to express their objections. Mr. Secretary CANNING tifa*pd, L. that the Committee into which the House was about tb - g4liaoiot for the purpose of voting the supply, but a Committee for, coming ton resolu tion intended for the ground of a Bill that was afterwards to go through all its stages. Mr. G. BENNLT said,:that the papers relating to the sub ject had been in thehands of Members only eight hours, and it was impossible that any one should be informed of their con tents in that short time. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER did not wiel to call upon the House for a vote before they had acquainted themselves with tTirretiiiiiti, - and would not press the question forward, if delay were necessary on that account. The Committee was postponed to Friday. WOOL EXPORTATION AND IMPORTATION BILL. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the Order - of the Day f=the_second reading of this Bill. Mr. CURTELS said that he had been taken by surprise in the bringing forward this measure with the increased duty on the exportation of Wool. He thought it an injustice of the Agricultural Interests, and hoped the Chancellor of the Exche quer would postpone it until they could be heard by the House. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that he could not understand the ground upon which the Hon. Gentle man opposed the second reading. He professed himself friendly to exportation, yet if he threw out this Bill, instead of being allowed to export upOn paying a duty of two pence, the law would stand as it was before. Lout I LTON observed, that the course the Hon. Member was pursuing would lead to this :—Because he could not have a less duty than two pence, he would keep the entire prohi bition. Mr. CURTEIS explained. Mr. PORTA! A N made some remarks upon the rate of duties on Imports and Exports, which he thought ought to be intro duced into the Bill. • i Ir. .1 : 117SK ISS ON 'observed, that the time for proposing such alterations would be in the Co mm itt ee . 31r. CALCRIFT said, he objected to the measure alto gether, because he wo.vid not export that species of long wool, which was the foundation of one of t h e most fl our i s hing manu factures of the country. It appea re d t o him that they were risking a mos t important inter es t w i t h out an y adequate pro. spect of advanta&e. lle was - surprised that the manufacturers had given up their opposition to it on account of so small an ex port duty as 2d per pound. Mr. r Said a few words which were inaudible. • Mr. PELHAM was averse to abandoning the advantages we possessed in this staple commodity, being the peculiar growth of the country, and its employment confined to our own manufactures. The bin wa4 then read a second time, and committed for to morrow. CUSTOMS ON COALS AND LINEN BILL. The Order of the Day having been moved fur the second reading of the above Bill, Sir M. W. R I ULM' said he should not suffer the second reading to pass without prOtesting against the unfairness and injustice of the uneqUal tax which it imposed upon coals. Mr. MA BERLE Y had hoped to see the Right Hon. Gentle man keep his 'eye steadily fixed upon the great principle of causing duties to be equally paid by all classes of his Majesty's subjects. He was aware that the Right - Hon. Gentleman would encounter opposition from the different interested parties ; but the only way to equalize the taxation upon coals would be to levy a duty at the pit's mouth. With regard to the linen boun ties, he agreed in the - principle of removing the system of boun ties, but at the same time they must keep the import duties upon the raw material view. That part of our linen manufac tures which was carried on in England laboured under the greatest disadvantages, on account of the duty and expences of importing the raw material, which Ireland and Scotland grew for themselves. The bounties to be recovered from hemp were not in fact bounties but drawbacks, as the divert duties and other charges amounted to 38 per cent. In consequence of this, ships were driven to other countries for sails and cordage, to the great detriment of our commerce. He threw out these observations for the reconsideration of the Right Hon. Gentle- - 1 man, before the clause in the Bill which related to them should be passed into a law. Mr. II USKISSON, after remarking that they were not then in a condition to enter into the general question of the system of taxation upon coals, observed, that as the law allowed, in cases of necessity, that ships should repair in our Forts with out paying the duties, there was no doubt_ but that under simi lar circumstances of necessity, the allowance might be extended to sails and cordage. Re agreed - with the Hon. .Gentleman n) th s a ta t n in ce a s future fthe that the bounties were miscalled—and that they were - more properly drawbacks. He wished to see the duty on the raw' „,„). wmaa pvmut. lihoot pledgi ng hi,: Right Hon litzit,e,nct, he t e t z, ghti, removed e a z won a r : s th a e i e it ir p c e u Sessio. the condition of the country would allow of reduction of the duty to the amount of the -drawback on hem one, should wish to see it reduced to little p. for uore than a nominal amount. The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to be committed to-morrow. Sir J. NEWPORT said, he hoped that when they were in Committee, the Right lion. Gentleman would be prepared to relieve the apprehensions of the Irish Manufacturers. Re would assure hint that the tranquillity of the South of Ireland depended upon the course he adopted. GAME LAWS. The Game Laws "Amendment Bill was ordered to be com mitted to-morrow. _ _ - - BANKRUPT LAWS AMENDMENT BILL. Upon the motion of Mr. Cot RTENAY, the House went into a Committee upon the Bankrupt Laws Amendment Bill, and several clauses were agreed to. Mr. .1. SMITH,- Mr. Locx- HA RT, Mr. 'l'. WiLsoN, and Mr. MARTIN, tcok part in the Committee. The Chairman then reported progress, and obtained leave to sit again to-morrow. The Cattle 111-Treatment Bill was read a third time, and passal.. The other Orders of the Day were disposed of, and the House adjourned soon after' WELVE o'CLocx. . . LIST OF THE MINORITY Who voted for postponing the Grant of 1:150,000 for Repairs iu Windsor Castle, until Plans of the Alterations and an • Estimate of the Expence-. could be prepared. Abereromby,Hn.J. Hurst, B. Philips, G. juR. Allen, J. H. Hutchinson, _ Hon. Robarts, A..W. Bennet, Hon. H. G. C. 11. Robarts, G. J. Banyon, B. James, W. Robinson Sir G. Bernal, 11. Jervoise, G. P. Russell, L. J. Birch, J. Johnstone, W. A. Bickford, W. Blake, Sir F. Kennedy, T. F. Smith, J.. Bright, H. Lambton, J. G. Smith, Wm. • Butterworth, J. Leycester, R. Tierney, Rt. M.G. Calvert, C. Leader, W. Tremayne, J. H. Colburne, N. W. Macdonald, S. Western, C. C. Crompton, S. Martin, J. Whitbread, S. C. Curwen, J. C. Milton, Viscount Wilkins, W. Ebrington,- Vi s ct. A io.r.:k J. B. Williams, 0. Ellice, Ed. Normanby, Vise. Wrottcsley, Sir J. Gordon, R. Nugent, Lord Wells, J. Hamilton, Lord A. Ord, Wm. Wodehouse, E. Hobhouse, J. C. Oxmantown, Lord TELLER. Honeywood, W. P. Palmer, C. F. Hume, Joseph TRADE WITH RussiA.---.A Hamburgb Paper of the 31st ult. contains the following Imperial Ukase, dated Feb. 28 :—" Every captain of a vessel arriving in Russia must produce two bills of lading ; in which, as• well as in the invoice, must be stated the name of the Consigners of the goods, whence they come, whither they are going, the names of the consignee, of the ship, the cap tain, the quantity, quality, and value of the goods. The captain must make a declaration in duplicate respecting these bills of lading. The captain who cannot produce two bills of lading is liable to pay two roubles ha silver. The time given for compliance with these regulations is at 'all the land custom-houses three months, and the sea ports four months, and for goods from extra- Eurppean ports till the Ist of January next year. Captains, Ste. are not bound to show duplicates of their papers at the custom-houses of St. Peters burgh, Riga, at Cronstadt, and the 13olderaa, 1 %%here there are persons appointed to copy the ships' papers. Nuu EMBERG, MAncit 26.—We have just been informed that M. de Tatischeff has lately been entrusted with a new mission to Vienna, and that he has set off from St. Peters burgh during the night of the 7th to the Bth March, for this destination. It is reported that he is directed to consult with Prince Metternich respecting the means of removing the obsta cles which impede the success of M. Minziaky's negociation.— A rumour was circulated at St. Petersburgh, that M. de Tatis ch:ir would repair to Constantinople, by the way of Vienna. SCOTCH AND IRISH CATHOLIC ESTABLISH MENTS IN FRANCE. The Moniteur of Saturday contains the follow ing Royal Ordinances : Louts, by the grace of God, King of France and Navarre, to all whom these presents shall come ,greeting. Considering our ordinance of the 17th of. December, 1818, which unites under one administration the establishments founded in France at different times for the instruction of young English, Irish, and Scotch Catholics ; Considering the-memorials presented by the prelates of Scot land, in which they show that the Scotch foundations are too poor to bear, even in proportion to the revenues which they pro duce, the expences of an ad m i n i strat iO n i nst i tuted for the t h ree establishments united ; Considering that the scantiness of the revenue of the Scotch section really requires for that section an administration entirely gratuitous, and which cannot be better exercised than by those who have the greatest interest in the preservation of the funds, and the good application of the produce ; Wishing to ent er i n t o th e viewsof the founders, who have placed those establishments under the protection of the Kings our ancestors, by maintaining over this gratuitous administra tion the inspection of our Government; On the report of our Minister Secretary of State for the In terior, with the advice of our Council of State, we have ordain ed and ordain as follows : _ _ 1. The foundations founded in France for the instructi on Of young Scotch Catholics shall be separated frbm the English and Irish foundations, to be administered separately, under the su. perintnldence of our Minister of the Interior. 2. The Administrator shall be, as tar as possible, a Priest of the Catholic Church of Scotland, and by birth a subject of his Britannic Majesty. 3. He shall be named by our Minister of the Interior. 4. He may delegate his funcions, for a time, to. a French Ecclesiastic, who must be approved by our Minister of the Interior. 5. The Scotch Administrator, or his delegate, shall have, for the preservation of the property and the receipt of the revenues, the same powers as are given to the Administrator-Ueneral by our ordinance of the 17th December, 1818, and especially by rticie . 2s-of that Ordinance. 6. The revenues received by the Administrator shall be paid by him entire, and without delay, into our Royal Treasury, which shall open an account current with our Minister of the Interior for the concern of those foundations. 7. The budget of the expenditure of the funds arising from the foundations shall be regulated before-hand, for each year, by the Minister. 0. The annual accounts shall be submitted to his approval, and finally confirmed by him. 9. The nomination of scholars shall likewise be subject to his approval. 10. The scholars who, according to the foundations, are to be brought up to the ecclesiastical professions, shall be placed in the French seminaries, and subject to the regulations of those establishments. _ _ , 11. The administration of the Scotch foundations shall be entirely gratuitous. 12. The ordinance of the 17th of December, 1818, shall continue - to be executed, so far as it is not contrary to the present. 13. Our Ministers of the Interior and Finance are charged with the execution of the present ordinance. Given at our palace of the Tuileries, the 3d of March, in the year of grace, 1824, and the 29th of our reign. By the King, LOUIS. The Minister Secretary of State for the Department of the Interior, CORMERE. Two other Ordinances relate to two prizes founded by the late Baron Auget de Montoyon. The first, for the reward of virtue • the second, for a Frenchman who shall have written and published the book the most useful to morality. THE REVENUE. An ACCOUNT of the INCOME of, and CHARGE upon, the CONSOLIDATED FUND, in the Quarters ended the sth day of April, 1823 and 1824 ; together with the Amount of the DUTY on TEA, per .Act 59 Geo. 111., and the AN NUAL DUTIES, &c. to the same periods. INCOME. GREAT BRITAIN. Customs Consolidated,&c. Excise do. - - Stamps do. - - Letter Money Assessed Taxes, 1808 Land. Taxes - - - Surplus Annual Duties Surplus Duties on Property) Monies repaid, &c. Do. on account of Loans to the Emperor ofGermany Incidents Tontine Money - Brought from Civil List, repayment to.the Conso.i lidated Fund on account' of the Clerk of the Ha-I naper - - I From Supplies, being the: amount issued in Ire land, pursuant to Act! 57 Geo. 111. cap. 48 GREAT BRITAIN. Exchequer,South Sea, and Bank of England An nuities - - Bank Dividends Reduction of National Debt Civil List - - Pensions by Act of Parlia ment - - - Salaries anti Allowances Interest onExchequerßills for Consolidated Fund Miscellaneous Charges • Trustees for Military and Naval Pensions - Purchased of the above Trustees by the Bank of England Discount on the anticipat ed Payments on account of the Austrikin Loan Surplus . Deficiency A:. s. d. 196,797 11 5 4,735,176 14 B.'t 1,210,000 0 0 212,500 0 0 94,265 9 7i 20,550 7.4 4,496 16 8 44,849 1 0 1,400,000 0 0 7,918,633 0 9 2,135,136 4 [10,053,769 5 .4 s. d. 197,727 2 6 4,732,068 .8 5: 1,210,000 0 0 . 212,500 0 0 94.000 0 0 25,000 0 0 658 6 8 57,331 19 6:3 1,107,130 0 0 292,1370 0 0 Deduct Monies issued per Act Geo. IV. cap. 21, in full of 8,709,0001., estimated as the Surplus of the Consolidated Fund, granted pro 1823 in the Quarter ended sth April, 1824 - - - - - 310,714 2 10 8,240,000 0 0 3 777 8 ,412 3 11 i 12,018,412 3 11. 3,778,412 3 111 Total of the above Surplus issued at tith e April, 1824 - - - - 2,417,109 8 3i 1,361,302 15 84 8,700,000 0 0 1823. 1824. 1x500,000 0 0 Duty on Tea, 1823, pro anno 1821 - - • . • Duties annually granted to pay off Exchequer Bills charged thereon - South Sea Company's Fund Reserved out of Assessed Taxes for Payments to lieceivers, &c. - Dittoout of Canal and Dock Duty - - - Ditto out of Sugar, 4th Geo. IV., cap. 3 - - Note-Exchequer Bills issued for the Con-) solidated Fund at sth Jan. 1824, and paid 1 off out of the growing Produce of that I i- £1,541,928 11 1 Fund in the Quarter ending sth April, ,1824, pursuant to Act 57th Geo. 111., cap. 48. - - - . ~ The Surplus of the Consolidated Fund of - Great Britain, for the Quarter ended sth X 1,381,302 15 8 April, 1824, amounts to the sum of Total at sth April, 1824, to be provided for by Exchequer Bills charged on the growing produce of the Consolidated X 180,625 15 5, Fund, in the Quarter ended 5t1au1y,1824 Exchequer, April 5, 1824. ' THO IAS FORSTER. A) 136,011 12 24 1 9,39-2 01u £192,430 12 10 4,296 3 Si 2,952 18 11k 4,000 0 0 5,000 0 0 1 ;23. S. d. 988,626 9 106 4,739,557 0 0 1,573,853 18 4 330,000 0 0 740,819 12 6i 92,976 13 8i; 1,409,759 12 2i 25,015 0 0 46,080 3 7 11,583 14 10 5,868 2 7i 9,964,140 7 94 89,628 17 54 10,053,769 5 2A :MARGE. 1823, 1824. s. d. 1,291,883 1 3i 4,995,351 1 9 1,6(15,79518 9 356,000 0 0 452,115 9 11 79,308 4 01 1,103,980 0 5{ 1,958 8 1. - 45,445 13 2A 1,733,333 6 0 • 9,898 10 1 11,735,070 1 5 203,342 2 Gi 112,018,412 3 11 1824. PARLIAMENTARY PROCEEDINGS. HOUSE OF COMMONS. Ll(nce, 5° die Aprilis, 18'24. MILE-END OLD TOWN RATES—Petitions from J. Ballance, J. Lockett, Churchwardens, and Inhabitant Householders, against, to lie on the table. Bill read a second time, and cumin i tted CATTLE ILL-TREATMENT Bills read a third GAOL—Ayr I time, and passed. ROADS—Whiteparish and Southampton—Report on Petition for additional provision re-committed to former Committee. Brighton and Newhaven—Petition for additignal provision referred to a Committee. City, and Dunchurch—Bills re ported, to be ingrossed. Colne—Bill read a third time, • and passed. PILOTAGE-LLiverpool—Petition of Licensed Pilots, against* referred to the Committee on . the Bill. • - LANCASTER JUDGES LoDGIN - GS—Petitim of Rates Payers Of Little Weolton, against, to lie on the table. - Gas LlGHTS—Greenwich and Dentfbrd,-Bill read a first time. London and Westminster Oil—Petition of Ship-owners of Hull, in favour, to lie on tha table. Dublin Oil—Bill re ported, to be ingrossed. CANAL—Hertford Union—Bill reported, Report to lie on the . table. SOCIETY—DubIin Equitable Loan 1 Petitions for leave to n n en—Chester "J- sent Petitions for -plus referred to Committees. COAL TRADE—Dublin—Petition of Chamber of Commerce of Dublin, against, to lie on the table. COMPANIES United General Gas Light—Bill read a %Kona time, and committed. Australian—Petition for leave 10 present a Petition for a Bill referred to a Committee. DRAlNAGE—Wainfleet (Lincoln)_Bill read a first time. INCLOSURE—MeItham (York)—Petition of W. Rayner and J. Taylor, against, referred to the Committee on the Bill- ImPn o v EME N T —Eveshani —Petition of Mayor, &c. against, to lie on the table. CHAPEL—Maidenhead—Bills reported, to be ingrossed. NAVIGATION—Medway --Bill read a first time. ALIENS BlLL—Petition of Inhabitants. of Derby, agains t ' to lie on the table. HOUSE AND WINDow Du TlES—Petitions from HineklcY; Perth, Kingston-upon-Hull, and M'arrninste r , for tire repo' thereof, to lie on the table. WooL—Petitions from Ward of Leath, Cumberland, and West Ward of Westmorland, in favour of .the exportation thereof; to lie on the table. FISHERIES (Scotland)—Petition from Nairn, for the t lation of, the Laws applicable to the Salmon Fisheries, t° lie on the table. PUBLlCANS—Petitions of Licensed Innkeepers and Victualler s of Eye, and Bromley (Kent), for the repeal of the increased Duties on Licences ; to lie on the table. ALE AND BEER—Petitions from Kidderminster and Roe' dale, against any alteration of the existing Laws relative to the sale thereof; to lie on the table COMBINATION or WORKMEN Laws—Petition of Frame' work-knitters of Arnold, and Carpenters of London, to lie Gn the table ; and Seventeen others referred to the Select Committee on Artizans and Machinery. COUNTY COURTS BlLL—Petitions from Wilts, and St' Alban's, in favoie; and from Sheriff of Lancashire, praying that the provisions may not extend to that County, to lie on the table HIDES AND SKINS REGULATION BlLL—Petitions of Tan ners, &c. of Penrith, Morpeth, and Halifax, against, to lie on the table. ASSAY OFFlCE—Birmingham-Petition from Sheffield , against, referred to the Committee on the Bill. POOll LAWS AMENDMENT BlLL—Petition from Leeds , against, to lie on the table. LINEN BOUNTlES—Petition from Limerick, for continuanc e ' of, , to lie on the table. NOTARIES PUBLlC—Petition for repeal of the Duties on cences, from Peebles, Clackmanan, and Montrose ; to li e On the table. DOCK—St. Katherine's—Petition of London Dock Compaq* against, referred to the Committee on. the Bill. ELECTlON—Bossiney—Order for considering Petition of Pl' ward Rose Tunno, Esq. on 27th - April read and discharged, to be taken into consider a tio n u p on T ues d ay, M a y 11, three o'clock in the afternoon. DISSEN T E RS—Petition of Protestant Dissenters of Wareharn* for the removal of disabilities, to lie on the table. broug ht up AND MACHINEBYCOMMITTEE—Report uroug he up ; to lie on the table, and to be printed. COAL. Du TiEs—Petition against the Duties on Coals, fro ° Long Sutton, to lie on the table. MESSAGE FROM THE Lon.ns —That they have agr eed tr l Union Dutie s Bill, Wedmore Highways Bill, Redb r ook en' St. Arvan's and Broadway and Mickleton Roads Bills, Fir mouth Improvem e nt Bill , an d Roundhay Chapel Bill, Witt' out amendment. WooL—lmportation and Exportation CUSTOMS ( Coals and Linens Bills read a 2cl thr.e' COUNTY TREASURERS (Ireland) i vr RECORDS (Ireland) INNKEEPERS t a I i? dcoayn.imitted NOTICES OF MOTIONS FOR THIS DAY. l. Mr. George Lamb—Bill f or a ll ow i ng persons prosecuted iv'". Felony to defend by Counsel. 2. Mr. Maberley—Lana Tax Redemption Acts. 3. Mr. Kennedy—Bill to regulate the relief granted to I Poor in Scotland. 4. Mr. William Smith—Bill to ex t en d th e pow e rs o f the dish. land Road Repair Act of last Session. a 5. Mr. Carus Wilson—Bill to amend Acts for better care A n d. maintenance of Pauper or Criminal Lunatics in Engb li ORDERS OF THE DAY FOR. THIS DAY. 1. Ruin Duties Acts—Committee thereupon. 2. Beer Duties Acts—Committee thereupon. 3. Labourerers' Employment Bill—Second Reading. 4. County Courts Bill—Committee. 5. Crown Debts (Ireland) Bill—Second Reading. 6. Aliens Bill—Report. •. 7. Supply—Report. 8. Wool Importation and Exportation Bill—Committee.- 9. Customs (Coals and Linens! Bill—Committee. 10. Game Laws Amendment Bill—Committee. 11. Bankrupt Laws Amendment;Bill:;--Committee. 12. County Treasurers (Ireland) Bill—Committee. 13. Records (Ireland) Bill—Committee. 14: Juries (Scotland) Bill—Further consideration of Repor t ' 15. Barrack Department Property Bill—Third Reading. 16. Judges in• Wales Bill—Committee. 17. Constables Act Amendment (Ireland) Bill—Report. 18. Innkeepers NOTICES GIVEN YESTERDAY. Thursday, April 8. Alr. Hume—Return of Slaves in the West Indies belonging to the Public. Tuesday, April 13. Mr. Peter Moore—Bill to repeal Combination Laws. Thursday, May 6. Mr. Wodehouse—Continuance of the present Salt Duties• After Easter. Mr. Hume—Select Committee on the practice of impressia Seamen-. PRICE G THIS DAY AT Bank Stock shut 3 per Cent. Red: shut 3per Cent. Cons. 95ii 34 per Cent shut 4 per Cent. { ( 1• ) I l e d w 10 h l I ü b t ' 5 per Cents. 1797 Bank Long Ann shut Imp. 3 per Cents. F STOCKS TWO O . C4OCK. India Stock 4 110 India Bonds 85s. 87 ' South Sea Stock ............. Old Annuities ............... bt Ex. Bills Ditto Sinai! ................... Rank for Act. .............. India for Con. Acct. ...... Cons. for Acct. ... PRICE OF FOREIGN STOCKS IN LONDON, AFRO. 6, AT ONL 1. Five per Cents. 104. scrip, 17:j pm. 1 Six per Cents. 00. Five per Cents. (Metallic) 00. Ditto New 981. Five per Cent. Bonds, 96i. Scrip, 17 5 prem. Five per Cent. Bonds, 1820, 00. Ditto 1821, 18i. Ditto 1823, 17. P russ i an f Five per Cent. Bonds, 99 ex div. 1 Ditto New, 99g. 1 Bonds, 91i. • Portuguese I Scrip, 11. Danish Five per Cent. Bonds, 100 k. Peruvian Scrip, 00. Chili 83. Colombian Six per Cent. Bonds, 90. Mexican Scrip, fli prem. Greek 2 dis. Alliance Insurance Shares-15. . French Itusaian Neapolitan Austrian Spr.nish Bank Shares r 24 Os. Od. Seven per Cent. 95. American Six per Cent. 94 —lO2. [Five per Cent. 100 —lO2. Three per Cent. 77. n MI WA TER AT LONDON BRID G E T O- MU R RY lf• Morning, 52 minutes after 7. 1 Evening, 28 minutes after .