The Sun. — London, England, 1842-02-11 00:00:00

~, ~ EVE N SUN EASTERN COUNTIE6 RAILWAY. RITORT OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. In their last Report the Directors itiformec ;: Proprietors, that .e contracts for the whole of the work, had t,..-11 let (with the ex. etption of some of the stations) for the cern:ee::on of the hue to Colchester ; and that the opening of the Railway for traffic to that important town was confidently anticipated by the Engineer in the autumn of the present year. Notwithstaading the peculiarly un favourable weather fur every description of field operations, which has been experienced for some months past, considerable progress has been made with the works ; and the Engineer continues to re pert with great confidence that the completion of this part of the Railway by the time stated may be frilly relied upon. TM's conchs. sioa the Dii cetera, from their periodical inspection of the works, see no reason to doubt ; provided only that ordinarily fine weather should ensue, and that the requisite funds be promptly supplied. The most strenuous exertions of the Directors and their Engineer will be directed to push forward the remainder of the unexocuted work during the approaching season ; and the Lectors trust that the Proprietors are about to realise those advantages which have emaya been aelicipated, on reaching so important a point as Col. cheiter in the line of Railway communication betwecu the Metro kedia anti the Eastern Counties. The excellent condition and the small cost for maintenance of *ay el that portion of the line already finished and opened to the public, afirnaV much satisfactton to the Directors. At a period wi.eri, feller the unprecedented wetness of the season, so many other lines,haveeleverely sufibred, tine works on this Railway have been nmintaine'd in the must efficient state, without any extra cost what es?er, with the exception of a portion of the Gubbings Embankment between Romford and Brentwood, which , froth the peculiar nature of the sot.' and The circumstances that attended,its construction, has. from the first, caused much trouble and inoonvenience. To those unacquainted with She nature of railway works this portion of the liai "; „fe el , appeared in a rough and unsatisfactory state, arising from the operations necessary to remedy the land slips which have occurred. At no time, however, has the Engineer ever entertained the slightest apprehensions of any impediment to the traffic, or ex perienced any difficulty in maintaining the rails at their proper level, allowing the transit of the trains to be made with perfect se curity ; and had not the continued rains of the autumn and early part of the jointer greatly retarded the engineering operations neces sary to remedy the land slips and overcome the defects arising from the nature of the soil at this point, this part of the Railway would. long since have been perfected. The Engineer has shown more fully the present state of the vat ious works in his Report, to which the Directors refer the Proprietors for further information. From the traffie accounts for the last six months, which are an nexed, it will be observed that a steady and very considerable in creasein the receipts, above the corresponding periods for the last year, has been maintained. The total receipts for the half year ending the 4th of January, amount to 22,5511., while in the corre sponding period of last year they amounted to 15,5351. only, show ing an increase of 7,0161., or very nearly 50 per cent. The last sixteen weeks of these respective periods being more exactly similar in their circumstances than the entire half year, and affbrd ing an unexceptionable comparision, show an average increase of 2341. per week for the present year. In addition to an increase in the the passenger traffic, there has been a considerable augmentation in the carriage of parcels, cattle, and merchandise, and the latter in par ticular would have been very greatly increased, had not various circumstances prevented the Directors availing themselves of this branch of revenue, but which impediments will be shortly re. moved, when this description of traffic may be expected to assume considerable importance. It will be satisfactory also to the Proprietors to find that, with a considerably inesoased revenue and traffic, the ordinary disbursements have scarcely exceeded their former amount : and there appears good reason to believe, that, from the capabilike of the working stock, and the nature of the upper works o/ is line, an increased traffic will by no means require a correspond ing increase in the expenditure. In some departmentS, a consi derable reduction has been effected, more particularly in the con sumption 'and cost of coke, arising from various- improvements, which the executive of this Company has adopted; and this de partment of expenditure .(one of the stost important in the working of railways) will, there is every reason to suppose, un dergo considerable further reduction, when some of the nume rous experiments now making on this and vgrious other rail. ways, in the mechanical alterations of Locomotive engines, shall be sufficiently tested to warrant their more general adoption. It is right also to state that the regularity with which the trains have performed their journeys, reflects much credit on the officers of the Company. The average variation in the _ arrival of the trains for the half-year amounts to four minutes and eight seconds per train only, including the loss of time which necessarily occurs in starting the trains from the stations. The whole of the engine and carriage stock of this Company has been carefully valued, in conformity with the plan proposed by the Directors at the last half-yearly meeting, and now generally adopted by well regulated railway companies ; and it is a satisfactory proof of the continued efficient state of this stock, and of the moderate de. gree of wear and tear it has yet sustained, that the depreciation, calculated upon these grounds, amounts to 352/. only during the last half year. This amount, as part of the expense by means of which the net pfsatit of the half year has been obtained, is of course charged against the receipts, and carried to the Depreciation Fund Account, out of which heavy outlay for new stock will be met, whenever it is required, without the risk, of interference with the regularity of the dividends at any time ; and which fund at all times ensures the original capital of the Company in all its va rious branches, continued untouched by unwarranted dividends, and possessing, either in the shape of stock, or of this re served fund for future expenditure on stock, a full and ade quate representative of fts original value. This small amount of depreciation, the whole of the current expenses for the repair of the stock, the maintenance of the way, and every other item in cide rit to the working of the line, being charged in the traffic ac count, as shown in the annexed statements, there appears a balance left of 81;297/. clear profit for the past half year ; arid this sum, with the net profit of the 4th' of July last. gives exactly 9s. per share elivignct on eaels registered share in the undertaking, nearly dual to . fije per cent on the present price of these shares ; and a result the less to have been anticipated when it is recollected that not 18 miles of the whole line are yet opened for traffic, and that sae predt whatever has been realised by any of the other partial openings of this kind. This dividend of 9s. per share, the Direc tors propose now to declare payable, to those Proprietors of shares who have duly paid up all the calls on the sth of April next. The accounts of the general receipts and disbursements on capi. tal account for the last half-year, arc likewise annexed, and show the eetailed expenditure of the Company to the present time. The Directors have no reason whatever to suppose, that the revised estimates of Mr. Braithwaite and Mr. Locke, in the hands of the Proprietors, will be at all exceeded in the completion of the line; or, es already stated, that the period of opening to Colches. ter will be delayed beyond the time fixed, if the requisite funds continue to be at all times at their disposal, as required for the works. But they mist request the Proprietors to bear in mind that whilst 56,000 orthe Company's shares, and 56,000 of their debentures, yielding jointly (at 331. 6s. Bd. for each share and de benture) a capital of 1,8 66,666/. are at. length in the hands of responsible solvent Proprietors, there are 8,000 shares and 8,000 debenturesfinfeited and unissued, and in the hands of the Com pany, mostly with but small sums paid upon them ; arid that the capital required for the catire completion of the Railway, the stations, Niel the whole of the working stock, is, as already stated, 9.,300,0001. Owing to the unexampled pressure on the money market, the Directors continue unwilling to dispo , e of the forfeited shares on terms which they could with any due r.egard to the interests of their Proprietors think of entertaining ; and they have not succeeded in raising money on loan so freely and promptly as they had hoped.; and hence, looking to the earliest possible com pletion of the line to Colchester, and the strict fulfilment of their engagements to the engineer and his contractore, as their first and paramount duty to their Proprietors, they have most attentively considered what plan to adopt, for raising pro:eptly and with cer tainty, such portion of the remaining capital for _which powers arc granted to them by the Company's Acts, as is absolutely re quired by the works and other expenditure for the final completion of the undertaking. To adm t new Shareholders, by disposing in the market of any of the forfeited and unissued shares. on such terms as could be obtained at preent, would, your Directors conceive, be to sacrifice must unwarrantably the interests of the present Proprietors; and, as the remait ing call of V. per share would be quite insufficient for the object of providing funds for the completion of the under_ taking, they consider that the simplest an.t most expedient course will be to raise these funds, in shares, by means of the 300,000/. authori-ed to be raised by the Ist Act. The pan which the Directors propose to pursue in this issue of new shares, and which, if approved by this Meeting, will be immediately submitted to a Spec - esl General Meeting of the Proprietors for legal sanction, is to issue them rats-ably to all the Shari holders and Debenture holders, at the price of Si. 6s. Sd. each for a similar share to those al ready existing ; such sum to be paid by instalments of 21. 6s. Sd. on the sth of April, 21. on the 4th of June, on the sth of August, anti .21. on the sth of o,tober. This issue rateably distri butes! wi:l yield in the proportion of about one new share to every Iso'.der cf three shares or three debentures, or jointly three shares and debentures ; and the Directors propose to receive ten ders from this present proprietors of shares anti registered holders of debentures, for their rateable proportions, and for such further stew shares as may not be accepted on the day proportions of any appointed. Tnese farouratee terms wilt decide all the Shareholders who can, to accept the new shares, and enable those who utifor_ tennis:ly cannot, to realize whatever premium the state of the market and .prospects of the underaking may command. Tnese arraneements the Directors believe will fully provide for all the wants of the undertakng, and they therefore pledge themselves not to issue avy portion of th . e 16,000 shares and debentures in the Company's hands without the sanction of a General Meeting of the Proprietors. They will at all times constitute mp arailab , e cavral agreat importance in case of need, without the necessity of further application to Parliament. Owieg to the unfavourable state of the mow?) , market fir seve•• rat months past, the areclors are unable at present to report any decisive projress respecting the formation cf the Branch Lint's which they anticipated ; I ut as all the preparatory steps for secur. Me the !Merest% of this Company have been taken, the Directors hope the Trattie of this Railway will ultimately receive a consi derable :mei ease front these sources. The Thames Haven Rail. way is the only line at present reported by its Managers to be in a po,ition to hold elk any immediate prospect of completion ; and the Directors hope that this Reilway may, at no distant period, be come a useful tributary to the Hastert, Counties Line. At the prseseut meeting four Nacaneies occur in the Direction, by the retiretrient of Samuel Anderson, F.sq , Robert Cresbie, Esq , 'Robot t 'Mather, Esq ,and Tliociore W. Ratlibone, Esq., who are - however all re-eligible under the Act of Parliament. High-street Stofeditch, 91.11 February, 184'2. AVSFRAcT OF THE DAL INCE-SHEET. RECEIPTS. The - flepni its and Calls matte amounted to.. The arrears 018 the same Making the amount paid up Advances on future calls on 491 Shares Instalments on Debenture' Hera and Sale of Surplus Property and Old Alaterial4.. Loans, 8,e.... X 1,436,219 0 0 150,998 13 10 ],285,220 6 982 0 0 464,239 13 4 21,143 12 6 116,656 12 11 X 1,888,242 4 II DI3BURs'ENIENTS. Tl,O total amount of the expeuseslncurred up to July 4, 1141, amounted to X1,651,431 13 9 Aoid from July 4,1841, to Jan. 4, 184 0 156,498 5 5 40012 5 9 Leaving a Balauee of .......... • ,C 1,888,242 4 11 In the Traffic Department the Receipts for ,the 11, t 1 f - Yeareoramencin g July 5,1841, w:re £22,551 19 6 11,344 10 7 The Expenses du r i ng the same period were _ Leaving a Balance of ----;; ---._______,______ x.. 11,207 & I I --- TO THE CHAIRMAN AN THE E. STER N COUNTIES Engineer's oftl e, Hare Hall, Feb. 7, 1842. flentlemen,—lt is a source of great gratification to me to re. por t t o you, that notwithstanding the unfortunate weather to which our w.,rks, in common with all other railways have been subject, I am l e ft with a perfect conviction that i tti) I shall realise what I have before had the honour of stating , completion of the line to Colchester in the Autumn of the present year will not be deferred. The condition of seventeen of the eighteen miles of the line pr incessantof con_ o p e ned have left 5 nu reason to be satisfied with _d theeyon stability your works, not having co st y ou one shilling in repairs h t rac t maintenance. The complete saturation, by the wet weather, of the Oubbi n g' s Embankment, left much to be ap hended ; and I had hoped a fair average 0; weather would have enabled me. to control the difficulties to which we were subject In August last. I have, however, in t his been somewhat disappointed. But notwithstanding those difficulties, I am happy to say, that your trattic has never been impeded, neither has there been the least cause foralarm_ Th e means I have adopted to secure the perm anent stabilitrof this em bankment, will I p articular ly when ' am certain, meet with your c oncurrence, ,v a t at i lig , t,v,tl. s;:iii consider the paramount importance of con- Counties, about, to Ltry . to receiving the traffic of the Eastern ' 1n°1414 upon the line. With the aid of •••••• moderately fine weather, we shall be able to render this part of the line quite equal to the rest. Your tont:actors, with few exception•, have done all Cie could have been expected ; in some cases more so, consider ng the weather. Our most important works have progressed tht.s much, that I entertain not the slightest doubt, with sufficient funds at your disposal, of completing the contracts within the time . specified. The Brentwood hill cutting, apprehended by some ely to be greatly protracted, I am happy to say has been so diligently t ursued by the contractors, Messrs. Hills, that 5-9ths of the quanti t y contained in their contract has been already executed, leaving only 180,000 cubic yards to complete it. The remaining contracts have so far progressed, that the ex treale -quanlity of earthwork to be carried in any one direction, either into embankment or to spoil, does not exceed 220,000 cubic yards, the whole of the excavations being of a favourable character. li The only doubt I ever entertained (anticipating the ill effects of the late unfortunate weather upon brick-making), was the pr,,ba ble scarcity of bricks, 60,000,000 being required for the works be tween Brentwood and Colchester. This apprehension has been re moved in the precaution you have been pleased to take, by the contracts into which you have entered, securing the making of several millions of bricks. This will enable us to prosecute the necessary and early operations of such work's, which would other. wise have seriously reta-ded our earthwork. Your Engine- House, so far as the weather would permit, has progressed, though slowly; but I am confident, by the Ist of May next, it will be ready to receive the Engines. Nearly all the requisite tools and machinery have been effelered, the greater part of which are completed, and ready for erection, which will be done when the building is roofed in. The vexatious impediment to the completion of a portion of the London Terminus, created by the parish authorities of Spitalfields, I am happy to say is entirely removed by the decision of the Courts to whom the questions were referred. I have given instructions that no time shall be lost in completing so important a part of the undertaking to render it in a fit state to receive the daily increasing traffic, as well as Ihr the accommodation of the public. For the detail of the works, I beg to refer you to the subjoined appendix.—And I have the honour to be, Gentlemen, your obedient Servant, JOHN BRAITHWAITE. Contract 22—Brentwood Hill-262,833 cubic yards of earth have been run to spoil, leaving only 180,000 cubic yards to com plete the same. The Worley Bridge Pit will be commenced the latter end of the present month. Contract 12—From the Hill at Shenfield Common 120,000 cubic yards have been run to spoil, leaving only 160,000 yards to carry to Embankment. Also 30,000 yards from the Mountriess. ing Hill, leaving only 95,000 to complete. The Chain River Bridge is carried up springing high, and the materials are on the ground for the Hutton-road Bridge. Contract 12 A—From the East End of Slienfield 190,000 cubic yards have been excavated, leaving only 107,000 yards to carry to Embankment. The arch of the Hutton Turnpike-road Bridge which was removed, has been re-bnilt, the centres struck, and the Railway completed and opened to the public. The Hutton Parish Road and Scholey's Occupation Bridges, with Offin's cul vert, are all complete, except the parapets. Contract 13—At Mountnessing 59,000 cubic yards have been run into Embankment. Burnt House Lane Bridge as also Culverts B and I are complete. _ _ Contract 13 A—At Margasetting 40,000 cubic yards have been run into Embankment. Culvert Eis complete. The Slough House Double Culvert and Justice's Bridge with its approaches nearly so. Contract 14—The excavation from the Widford Hill remains the same, the River Bridge, with the exception of the parapets. being now complete. The Contractors will immediately now re sume active operations; but little progress has been made at the East of Margaretting Hill. About a quarter of a mile of the road is ready for ballasting. Kilbgrew's Bridge will be completed by the time the embankment reaches it. Contract 11—The piers and abutments of the Widford Turn pike Road Bridge are up to the springing line. All the stonework for the imposts and voussoirs are on the ground, and the greater part dressed ready for fixing. The line is ballasted, and the Con tractors are preparing to lay the permanent way. This will enable them to carry on the remaining earthwork early to completion. Contract 15—The foundations of the Cann Viaduct have been sadly impeded by the floods ; but active operations are now reaum. ing. The 'foundations of the Duke-street Bridge, with thirteen piers of the Viaduct, are carried up to the Plynth. The Chelmer embankment has been carried over Bishop's Hall Bridge, and the road nearly ballasted to receive the permanent rail. The Broom. field-road Bridge being also built, locomotive engines will now be employed to complete the embankment. The arches of the Chel mer River Bridge will be turned and completed in about a lort night. At Pinsint's.lane Bridge the centres are fixed and the arch will be immediately turned. Contract 23—At Borelom the Mill Head Bridge is carried up to the springing ; the centres are being fixed preparatory to turning the arches. The earthwork is sufficiently forward to insure an early completion of this contract. Contract 24—At Hatfield Peverell 68,000 cubic yards have been excavated from the Toppinghoe-hall Cutting, and 58,000 from the Job's wood Cutting have been carried into embankment. Topping hoe HalT' Bridge is complete. Lovibond's Occupation Arch and Culvert nearly so, and the Mill Head Bridge is carried up ready for the centering. The excavations for the Terling Road Bridge have been commenced. Contract 25-40,000 cubic yards have been carried into the Withan Embankment, leaving 180,000 yards to complete. The piers and abutments of the Mill Streank Bridge are up springing high, also at the Bridge at Blunt's Hall. The Diversion Road at Chipping Hill is complete, and a temporary bridge erected to enable the earthwork to be continued during the building of the perma. neat bridge. Contract 26—In consequence of the refusal of Messrs. Ritsons to execute this contract, it has been re.let to Mr. George Withes, who is in possession of several parts of the properties, and who is preparing for active operations. Contract 27—At Kelvedon the Blackwater River-bridge has been a source of much trouble ; the whole of the foundations re quiring sheet piling, the operations for which having been con stantly impeded by the floods. The arch which the contractor persisted in turning contrary to repeated instructions without a proper abutment, which fell down, has been removed, and the cen tres reinstated ; when the weather permits the arches will be turned to enable the earthwork to proceed. Roller-lane-bridge, with the exception of the parapet, is complete. The West Cutting has not been forwarded, it being nearly all ballast. Contract 28—The Contractor is leading on materials prepara tory to commencing operations, which will be carried on vigorously. Contract 29—At Stanway 64,000 cubic yards have been carried into embankment over Stanway Bridge, which is complete, and ma terials are on the ground waiting only the weather. Contract 30—At Lexden 53,000 cubic yards have been exca vated from East Hill and carried westward into Colne embankment, leaving about 121,000 yards to complete. Contract 30 A—At Lexden 65,000 cubic yards have been car ried eastward from the West Hill to he Colne Embankment, leaving 200,000 yards to complete. 7ne abutment with Five Piers of the Culne Viaduct have been carried up to the springing, the remaing pier and abutment have been commenced. The earth work at the eastern extremity of the [lilt near Colchester is also carrying into embankment. The necessary fencing throughout the whole of these works has been erected. Several miles of the Line are now being ballasted, (abundance of the best ballast having been obtained) preparatory to receiving the permanent rails, which are now being delivered upon the several Contracts. JOHN BRAITHWAITE. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, Feb: 10. The Loan CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Woolsack at Five o'Clock. Lord MELBOURNE presented a petition from the Pro testant Dissenters of Worcester, praying for the repeal of the Corn-laws; also a petition from Brentford, to the same effect. BUILDINGS REGULATION BILL. The Marquis of NORMA NBY, who, on his rising, con versed across the table with the Marquis of Salisbury, moved the Order of the Day for the second reading of the Building's Regulation Bill. It was his intention not to have offered any observations to the :louse upon submitting his motion to their Lordships. He did not think it was necessary for him to trouble their Lordships with any explanation of the details of the Bill, or with any advo cacy of its principles, because that Bill hart twice been under the serious consideration of their Lordships, and had undergone a most searching investigation before a Corninittee of their Lordships' Howe. On that Committee the Noble Marquis (Salisbury), who hail but that moment intimated to him (the Marquis of Norminby ) his intention of opposing the motion, was a member anti a constant, attendant at its sittings; and upon that Committee he (the Marquis of Salisbury) had stated that, however much he might question the details, of that UM he was not opposed to its principles. As he ( the Marquis of Normatiby ) had stated, that Bill had received the most patient attention of a Committee of their Lord ships' House, and now, for the first titLe, he heard it was to re.:eive opposition. lie regretted that opposition the more, as a Nonle Lord from whom he had derived the grewest as-• si,tance, was then absent from this country. Ile also had to 'egret the absence of a Right Reverend Prelate from whom he had received the most a•sidtL.:us assistance. He was anxious not only for the success of the motion with which he intended to conclude, bat he also wished to impress upon the colleagues of the No'lle Duke who was good enough to promise him (the Marquis of . Nor manby ) his support in passim , that ma, how important it was that this Bill should lass thellouse. Since he had last ad dressed their Lordships on that subject, he hail had opportutiities of making inquiries into the subject, not wily in the manufacturing country towns, but :also the various branches of the metropolis. He had witnessed scenes which would harrow up the feelings of their Lordships in the recital. Their Lordships, if they wished it, might view those scenes themselves, and he thought the Noble Marquis (Salisbury) - in particular should witness those scenes before he came forward to oppose a measure, the object of which was to remedy the wretchedness to which he had alluded. He might direct their attention to many parts of this metro polis, but he would only mention one. In the neighbourhood of Whitechapel, there were hundreds anal thousands of human beings congregated in dens only fit fur animals. lie was informed that a great number of buildings were in the course of erection in consequence of this Bill, and were being hurried on for the purpose of escaping the operations of this Bill, and this was one of the reasons why he hail thus early in the Session brought: the subject before ;he Ilouse.—(l - lear, hear.) As he was on this subject, he would allude to another district of the Metropolis, but whit would not come under the operations of this Bill. lie allude.! to Bethnal•green. In that parish there were 75,000 inhabitants, 50,000 of whom were altogether excluded from the benefit of drainage. He had himself examined that district, and in one street, where the houses looked respectable down the middle of that street, there was a stream of pestilential filth, thus leaving the inhabitants open to disease arid wretchedness. lie called on their Lordships to give their sanction to such a measure as that which be introduced for the purpose of alle viating the unhappy condition of a large portion of the labour ing classes of this country. The Marquis of SALISBURY fully agreed in the necessity of some Bill of the kind; but he had not been acquainted with the proposed measure until he had lately read ' its details. In his opinion the Bill would tend, in a great degree, to perpetuate the evils which it proposed to remove. Every provision of the measure would contribute to increase the expense of building, and would consequently render it more difficult for the poorer classes to obtain a home at the rent which they could afford to pay. It should be remembered that if the inhabitants of Liverpool and other large towns lived in et liars, that Was owing to the fact that they could not obtain more comfortable accommodation at a lower rate. He would propose that the Bill should be referred to a Committe up stairs. The Duke of WELLINGTON expressed his readiness to suppor t the Bill; he thmght it would tend to improve the con dition of the labouring classes. 'The Marquis of NORMANBY observed that the principle of the Bill had alrt ady been discussed at length during the course of last year ; and, in a Committee of the House he should be ready to adopt any improvements which might be RY expressed his surTheestAediabrgyuaisnyofMseab Membe r the House. willingness to withdraw his opposition to the Bill for the present, on condi tion that the Noble Marquis would engage that it should in a future stage be referred to a Committee up stairs. The Marquis of NORMANBY could give no pledge upon the subject. The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to be committed to-morrow. DISTRESS IN THE COUNTRY. r devisedvil ing in the country, andits Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from West Bromwie he° p ra ran g * yi inin th g at o s t o t m h e remedy e relief ; also p e titi ons f rom p l aces i n Scotland, praying for a repeal of the pr esent C orn- l aws. distress m n ig o i t i v t, prevailing e s Lord KINNAIRD pn - sented several petitions frcm Paisley, and other parts of Scotland, complaining of the distress pm vailing in the country, and praying that some means might be devised for its remedy, and especially that the present Corn laws might be repealed.•—( Hear, hear.) The Noble Lord took that opportunity of asking the Noble Duke opposite whether the Government had received any petition from the Committee of Relief of Paisley? The Duke of WELLINGTON said that no such petition had been received. THE SUN, LONDON , FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 11, 1842. APPROPRIATION ACT AMENDMENT BILL. The Duke of WELLINGTON moved the second reading of this Bill. Its object was to remedy some technical defects in the wording of the Appropriation Act. Lord MONTE AGLE said that before the motion was agreed to, he wished to ask the Noble Duke whether there would be any objection on the part of the Government to lay before the House an account of the proceedings of last Session with respect to the Bill fur the Funding of Exchequer bills. That 13111 gave very extraordinary powers to the Go vernment, inasmuch as it enabled them to go into the market and raise, in the manner they might think proper, the sum of 5,000,0001. He did not mean to dispute, however, that those powers had been wisely exercised. The Duke of WELLINGTON would have no objection t ) accede to the request of the Noble Lord, and give him the re turns he required ; but he thought it would be better to move for them in the regular form. Lord MONTE A G LE gave notice that he should make such motion to-morrow, The Bill was then read a second time, and was ordered to be committed to-morrow. Lord BROUGHAM gave notice that he should move, to morrow, for certain correspondence relative to the transaction of the Creole. Lord FITZGERALD moved that copies of any further communications since the 4th of October last, relative to the proceedings of the Collector and Magistrate of Matura, id the Presidency of Madras, with reference to Roman Catholic worship. A few evenings ago he had said that information had been received, but that he had not had time to examine the despatches, and he therefore was not prepared to give an opinion upon it. He wished it to be understood, that sa far as Mr. Blackburn was concerned, the information was perfectly satisfactory, but that the proceedings with respect to the Ro man Catholics were not satisfactory. He did not mean to apply that expression to the conduct of Mr. Blackburn, to whom the Noble Lord opposite had said he did not impute blame. That questionV would remain to be discussed hereafter, and he should hope, that whatever further information was obtained, would be satisfactory. The statement of Mr. Blackburn at present was satis'actory. Loird CLIFFORD hoped the Noble Earl would add to his nation the correspondence with the Noble Lord the President of the. Board of Control relative to these proceedings. Lord FITZGERALD said he was not prepared to acqui esce in the proposition of the Noble Lord, nor did he think it necessary. Lord GLIFFORD explained that he had understood the Noble Lord to say that he had had some official communica tions with the collector at Matura. What he (Lord Clifford) required was merely to be furnished with a copy of those official documents. • Lord FITZGERALD said he did not feel authorised to give any further information on the subject than what he had just stated. The Marquis of NOIIMANBY presented a petition from Kingston-upon-Hull, praying for the abolition of the existing Corn-laws, with a view to the substitution of a fixed and mo derate duty. Earl FITZ WILLIAM presented petitions from Hertford, Arbroath, the hammermen of Edinburgh, Yeovil, Kendal, Earlstvood, Clayton ( West), Denbigh, Barnard Castle, Clitheroe, Dumbarton, the carpet-makers of Kilmarnock, Newcastle. on-Tyne, the loom-weavers of Mannow, the Cham ber of Commerce of Edinburgh, and numerous other places, praying for the total and immediate repeal of the Corn-laws. The Duke of RICHMOND presented a petition from the Chairman and Board of Guardians of the Ticehurst Union in Sussex, praying that when the Poor-law should come under the consideration of the House, the inhabitants of cottages under the value of six guineas should be excused the payment of rates. The House then adjourned at Twenty minutes past Six. HOUSE OF COMMONS, Feb. 10 , The SPEAKER took the Chair at Five minutes before Four o' Clock. Mr. L ARPENT presented a petition against the Notting ham Gas Bill. _ ___ . _.:. CORN-LAWS. Petitions were presented, praying for a total repeal of the Corn-laws, by Mr. Busfield, from various parts of Bradford— ene petition was signed by 11,494 individuals ; by Sir J. East hope, from Leicester, signed by 10,000 persons ; by Mr. &hole field, from the Dissenters of Birmingham ; by Mr. Divet t, from Exeter ; by Mr. J. Jervis, from variousTrrts of Wales ; by Mr. Wynne Ellis from Chelsea, and other parts of the metropolis ; by Mr. Johnson from Ayr, Forfar, and other parts of Scot land ; by Mr. Scott from various places in the county of Wor. cester ' • by Mr. Blewett from e l even th ousan d persons ; b y Mr. Stanfield ; by Sir George Larkin from places in Nottingham ; by Dr. Bowring from Warrington and Black burn ; by Mr. Parker from Sheffield ; by Mr. Wilson, from places in the West Riding of Yorkshire; by Mr. Childers, from Mahlon ; by Mr. Villiers, from diffe rent Places in Scotland ; by Mr. Evart, from Linlithgow ; by Mr. Leader, from various parts of Lancashire ; by Mr. Hastie, from Paisley; and by Sir George Sinclair, from the West Riding of Yorkshire. Sir J. EASTHOPE presented a petition from Leicester, signed by 980 persons, complaining of the falling off of their trade, and praying for some measures to be adopted to protect them. Mr. M. PHILLIPS presented a petition from Manchester against the introduction of sugar from the Channel Islands. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE presented a petition from the Guar di ns of the Easingwold Poor-law Union, praying the House to adopt some measures for giving Poor-law Guardians more discretionary power. Mr. GR IMSDITCH presented a petition from the Chel tenham and Great Western Union Railway, praying for leave to bring in a Bill. RAILWAYS (IRELAND). Mr. SHAW, conceiving that the answer of his Right Honourable Friend the Secretary for Ireland to the Honourable Member for Roscommon had been misunder stood, wished again to ask him whether the Govern ment had come to the determination of adopting any plan for the construction of railways in Ireland. He had un derstood his Noble Friend to state that certain plans had been brought under the consideration of the House, but that the Government had not pledgbd themselves to adopt any one of them. Lord ELIOT said that various plans had been submitted to the Government, but they had not determined upon any one. Ministers, however, were not disposed to sanction any plan that had for it, object any advance of the public money, or to saddle this country with any expense. STIPENDIARY MAGISTRATES (IRELAND). Lord J. RUSSELL wished to put a question to the Noble Lord the-Secretary for Ireland. A reduction had taken place in the Stipen.liary Magistrates in that country. He wished to know how far those reductions had been carried, and whether it was the intention of the Government to carry them any further. Lord ELIOT observed that eight of the stipendiary Magis trates had been reduced, and it was contemplated to have re duced ten, but upon the representation of some of the Lord Lieutenants of Ireland only eight had been reduced ; and it was not the intention of the Government to carry that reduction any further. That reduction had been adopted in a manner that was considered most equitablebyher Majesty's Go vernment, viz., reducing those who had been recently appointed. • Colonel SIUTHOR? wished to ask the First Lord of the Treasury a very important question relative to the resolutions which were proposed to the Howie last night. It was whether it was the intention of her Majesty's Government to make any alterations with regard to the manner in which the duties are now taken ; whether they were to be taken when the corn comes into the country, or when it is taken out of bond. Sir ROBERT PEEL said there was no alteration contem plated by her Majesty's Government. Col. SIB I'HORP then gave notice that he should call the attention of the Coinmittee.appeinted to investigate this matter to that very important point. Lord J. RUSSELL said there was a different law with regard to the importation of flour into Ireland and England; for when the admission was prohibited in Ireland, it was allowed in Eng land. He wished to know whether it was the intention of Govern ment to introduce into the Corn-laws that clause which prohibited the importation of flour into Ireland, or whether the same law would applyboth to England and Ireland. This subject was one of great interest to the liish, but if the night Hon. Paronet was not prepared to aniwer the question at present, he (Lord John would not press for an immediate reply. Sir U. PEEL said he had reserved that point for another question: he would endeavour to answer Ike inquiry on Monday next. - Sir A. L. H AY gave notice, that on Friday, the 4th March, he should move that the House go into Committee on the pre sent state of the Church of Scotland. AMENDMENT ON THE MINISTERIAL PLAN. Lord JOHN RUSSELL gave notice that on Monday next, before the House went into Committee on the Corn-laws, he should move a resolution, the precise words of which he could not give now, but the substance of which would be that in any contemplated al eration of thu Corn-laws, it would he inadvisalle to adopt the principle of a sliding scale.—( Hear. ) An HoN. MEMBER, ~those name we could not learn, gave notice that on Thursday, the 24th inst., he should move for a return of the total amount of money received from the Chinese fur the ransom of Canton. Mr. VILLIERS gave notice that he should take the sense of the House as to the propriety of the imposition of any duty whatever on the importation of corn. PUBLIC PARKS. Mr. EW ART wished to know whether it was the intention of the Commissioners of Woods and Forests to throw open Rivhmond and Kew Parks to the public. The Earl of LINCOLN replied that there was no in tention of making any alterations with regard to those Parks. LORD ASFIBURTO-N Mr. MARK PHILLIPS said that a true bill having been found agains►. a Nobleman (Lord Ashburton) at the Old Bailey on Thurs,lay last, he should move that a copy of tile eorre,pondenee, and all papers relative to the matter, should be laid on the table. TEXAS. Sir ROBERT PEEL said that he had promised to referring cou ntr t y o . isting between the State o f answer a question, with respect to t h e relations ex- Texas tarneadty thisHe had now to say that of th e t h ree treat i es—the treaty of commerce, the treaty of debt, and r the slavery, two of them had not received ratification. BOLTON—POOR -LAWS. Dr. 130 WRING rose to move for copies of communications addressed from Bolton to the Home-office, during the late re cess, on the subject of Mr. Mott's Report. He had to call the attention of the House to that Report, which was laid on the table at the close of last Session. With reference to the borough which he had the honour to represent, it created great astonishment and great annoyance- astonishment that an y in dividual delegated by h e r Majestys Government to inquire into the existing state of things in that borough, and the amount of disease which existed, there should have de clined to embody thos e facts in his Re p ort ; an d annoyance that that in d i vidual should have g on e r out of his way, in order to a ttribute improper motives to gen tlemen of the meet honourable and upright principles, gentlemen who had engaged themselves in ascertaining the state of • which was existing in that borough. That officer misery d to her Majesty admitted t () statements had made statements which he (Dr. Bow rin g ) would be able disprove. The address present frankly, fairly, and boldly, that the made upon that (the not exaggerated, Oig throughout the country were Hon. (the Opposition) side of the House. as to the great extent of misery exist but were fearfully true. To that declaration the Right Baronet at the head of her Majesty's Government , and theßight Hon. Gentl e m an a t th e h e ad of th e Home Department, had fully responded.—( H ear , h ear .) Th ey a d m itted that the distress and misery ex i st i ng i n t hi s country was o f the most severe and alarming c h aracter. H e (D r. B owr i ng ) might go e - Jen further if it was necessary, an d appea l to th re e gentlemen of the highest r especta bili ty, w h o h a d l a t e l y v isited the town of Bolton ; he alluded to the Hon. Members for Newark, Sand • with, and Canterbury, who had heard with their own ears the tales of sorrow and of misery which existed in Bolton—( Hear hear)—and he had no doubt that if those Gentlemen w ere called upon, they would come f orwar d an d f u lly substantiate these statements. He had called the attention of the House to three cases which were of a very peculiar nature, and which he had selected out of a multitude of simiiar ones placed in his hands, he was willing to own that these melancholy cases had occurred a long time ago ; and he did attach some blame to those who had not brought those calamitous circumstances forward when they oceurrei. He took the earliest of the many which had been communicated to him, because those were the earliest; but he would assure the House if a proper inquiry had been made in the borough of Bolton, it would be found that the misery endured there had not been diminished, but on the con! rary, was considerably increased. —( Hear, hear.) In that town there were many thousand human beings who had not the means of providing for themselves the common neces saries of life.—( Hear, hear.) It might be in the recols lection of the House that he had brought forward the case of a man named Pierce, who, it appeared, had been starved to death , and that a Jury - had recorded a verdict to that effect. That was one of three cases to which the Right Hon. Baronet had called the attention of the Poor law" Commissioners, and which Mr. Mott, the Assistant Poor-law Commissioner, hai embodied in his Report. With respect to the evidence adduced in that Report he ( Dr. Bowring) had to complain, and the people of Bolton had to complain, of 'the manner in which that inquiry had been conducted. Evidence had poured upon the Assistant-Commis sinner on every side, and he had refused to receive it.—( Hear.) The Hon. Member then quoted the testimony of various wit nesses as to the distressed state of this family. He thought it right to quote it, as the veracity of most respectable indivi duals was involved. lie begged of the House to listen to some of the declarations which were made, occasioned by the excitement and surprise of Mr. Mutt's Report. He (Dr. B. )* did not himself take any part in the inquiry, but he examined the witnesses; and after their testimony, if he was called on to re-state the case, he would do so in much stronger language than he had done. Mr. Mott bad gone to far as to say, that this family were in a comfortable condition, and his evi dence was, that he went to the unfortunate woman, who had assured hirnethey were receiving 9s. a week for their support.. But she had denied to him (De. B.) that she used any such language. The truth was, that she was in a state of mental imbecility, anti that she had not for herself and family more than 4s. a week at that time. He thought that Mr. Mott should have made more ample inquiry than he had, and not have contented himself with the testi mony of this poor woman.__( Hear, hear.) The Hon. Gen tleman then read the testimony of Mr. Coome and the town Missionary of Bolton, both of whom concurred as to the wretched state in which they found the family.—(Hear, hear.) Evidence of the same import was to be had on every side if Mr. Mott took the proper means to get at it. The Hon. Member, after referring to several cases of dis tress which had occurred in Bolton, and reading evidence pictur ing the dreadful state in which those parties had died, observed that notwithstanding that evidence, Mr. Mott had declared that the families were well off. These statements, he could assure the House, had changed his mind greatly with respect to the Poor-laws, and he should hesitate long before he delivered over the dying' inhabitants of this country to such hard-hearted men. It would be in the recollection of the House, that when he stated these cases of distress, he did' not attack the Poor -law guardians, because he believed they were not coXnisant of them. He believed, whatever desire the guardians might, have they had not the means of relieving the distress that surrounded them on every side. Mr. Mott did not satisfy himself by inquiry into the three cases he had adverted to, but he chose to enter into a work that was totally unnecessary, he had come forward and stated that there was a general exaggeration as to the distress existing in Bolton. Mr. Mott had most grievously calumniated these humane and ,worthy gentlemen. Let the House hear a few words from their own vindication against the charge of having got up their statement to subserve Anti-Corn-law agitation :—" We • deem no apes- logy requisite for inquiring into the condition of our distressed neighbours, and though the facts we discovered were read at an Anti-Corn-law meeting, they were not collect ed for that object. We have revisited the scene of last year's inquiry, and of the 303 families already named, we found 49 were broken up, some had gone to the workhouse, some to Australia, and others were scattered amongst their friends. But 69 were sill subsisting on Is. SP. a week each, when their rent was paid. The apartment of one family *as so damp that there had been rotted the cords of the bed on which slept the man, his wife, and four children." These were a few of a large mass of appalling facts.—(Hear.) But he (Dr. B.) was sorry to find that the state of the country had been generally growing bad- While the mortality of the navy had been reduced from 1 in 8 in 1779 to 1 in 72 in 1836, the mortality of the country had increased, through want of food, in Leicester to 1 in• 39, in Nottingham, to 1 in 35, in the West Riding of Yorkshire to 1 in 42, in Lancashire to 1 in 31. Referring specially to Bolton, the Poor's-rates from 1835 to 1837 was 11,900/. It was in the year 1811-2, 16,7401., being 4,8001. more than in the three preceding years, notwithstanding 4,000/. contributed in charity. A proportionate retrogression had taken place in Litte Bolton. Now what was the present condition of Bolton, from the last returns. It appeared that in Bolton, there were 6,167 people, whose average earnings amounted to I lid. per week, rather less than seven farthings a week tor each per son ; yet Mr. Mott ventured to talk of the 1 rofuse expenditure of money for the relief of the poor. Of fifty mills in Bolton, formerly employing 8,124 persons, 30 were now standing still. The Honour able Gentlemen then en tered, at considerable length , in to some statistics relative to the numbers of families who possessed neither beds, blankets, tables, chairs, stools, (Sec:, nor any article of furniture, presenting . a picture of the most heatt rending destitution ; this Inquiry had been conducted by gen tlemen who were willing to test the veracity of their statements. He had been accompanied through Bolton by an Hon. and Gallant individual, who had seen much of war, and was familiar with sights of misery, and he declard that he had never seen so much wretchedness as he witnessed in Bolton. There were many streets uninhabited, and many inhabited houses without furniture, or beds, or bedding. And yet they were willing to give their labour for that food which they were told other countries were willing to give them if they were ntSt prevented by bad laws.—( Hear, hear, hear.) They had hopes from that House, and they asked whether they were to be left in their forlorn and wretched condition, and he (Dr. Bowring) was sorry . to beobliged to express his convic tion that there was nothing in the legislative proposition which was brought before the House to afford them any consolation.-{- (Hi ar, hear.) The Hon. Gentleman concluded by hoping the Right. Hon. Baronet would consent to lay the documents for which he a.ked before the House. Sir J. GRAHAM said that if the Hon. Gentleman had commenced his speech with the interrogatory with which lie had concluded it, he would have saved himself much trouble, for he did not intend to oppose the motion.—( Hear.) When the Hon. Gentleman had brought the subject before the House on a former occasion he ( Sir. J. Graham) was satisfied, from the information he received, that certain specific facts, produced by the Honourable Gentleman, were greatly, but he was sure unintentionally exaggerated. He thought it right to go over these facts again , but it was not his ( Sir James Gra ham's) intention to follow him through them. He was o f op i n ion that it was better to postpone the discussion of them until the facts on both sides were laid before the House. As he had stated, he did nut intend to oppose the motion, but he should propose an amendment, that the words " together w;th the Reports in the hands of Mr. Mott" be added to his motion. The question of the amendment haying been put, Mr. AINSWORTH said that he did not consider he would he doing his duty is he did not bear his testimony to the facts of distress in Bolton produced by his Honourable Colleague. After making all the inquiry he could from from the re lieving-officer, he could not charge him with blame; when he had heard of the distress of these individuals he relieved them, and had confirmed to do so. He believed that some of them were at the present moment in employ in the borough, and were receiving relief from it at the present moment. He thought that the Poor. law guardians had exercised a most sound discretion in the for they they in had relieved the poor of Bolton, out-door rel i ef when it was necessary. hadsvhgicivh en they With respect to the statements that had been made n by his Honourable Colleague relative to the no a-work ing of the mills at Bolton, it was his belief that all the mills in that town were at work, with tt.e exception of one, but for short times.—(Hear, hear.) He believed that the statement of his Hon. Colleagu. was true that 15,000 or 16,000 houses were unoccupied in the borough, and had been so for some time. Lord JOHN MANNERS observed, that, from what he had seen of the town of Bolton, he did not believe the dis tress there had been exaggerated. He had seen that distress; and his earnest hope was, that whatever plan might be adopted would relieve the inhabitants of this country from the distress under which they were at present labouring. The motion as amended was then agreed to. 1%1 I DNIG HT LEGISLATION. THER I N ha of t broughter after s twelve o p u u d r e s r u a t n h c e e ( If s d i e s ratio n motion, of o'clock at night, unless one that to l‘l i r i n . o o u ß s b e ll u , s O a i hundred Members were present. It was not necessary for him to trespass lon ' e . vipers the House, but his motion was so reasonable, lie did not atitici ta e any opposition to it; • it would be admitted that the Lee sittings of the House were roost injur ions to the health of the Members, and inconvenient to the public; he was quite of opinion that the present practice was not at all bete tip ial ; he was often told of the wisdom of their anceatiors, who legislated by day-lieht. On looking at the journals of the House it would be found that in 1(114, an order was made that no business should be. brought on alter twelvo o'clock at noon, and he (Mr. Bratlierten) was then, in 1842, endeavourin , to persuade the House that no business should be brought on after twelve o'clock at night. He had the good example of the United States, and coinnvm sen , e, reason, and every thing else in support of his motion, therefore, he was sure the 'louse would adopt it. An LION. MEMBER having seconded hii motion. Sir R. PEEL said his Hon. Friend had frequently brought forward that motion before ; it must be quite apparent that if it was adoeted, it would be some times most inconvenient. If, for instance, any one Member of the House chose, he would, according to that motion, at 12 o'clock at night have the power to count the House, and, in that way, put a st . op to the progress of public business. It would certainly lead to the utmost inconvenience. While he gave the Hon. Gentleman who had brought forward the motion credit for the best intentionv, he (Sir Robert Peel) was of opinion that the House shooed not give its assent. Mr. EW ART said there had been a feeling growing up in that House, that their debates were protracted to later hours Therefore, i f his Honourable than soh el public convenience . Friend wished to press the measure to a division he would sup port it, as he knew there was an increasing impression in the public mind that they should return to earlier hours, and con form to the practice of their ant estors. Mr. BROTHERTON aid that the Courts of Law corn ineneed business at nine or half-past nine o'clock, and he saw no reason why they should not do so too, and he thought no reasonable man would deny that Parliament should not enter ' upon business of importanc e after twelve clock. trangers were then or dered __ o to withdraw, and the House S divided, when there appeared — For the motion ............................. 26 200 Against it ................. ion - Majority a.tainst the mot ...... —174 The motion was consequently lost• f On the motion of Mr. VILLIERs„ the ollowing returns were agreed to : —An Account of the Public Expenditure of the United Kingdom in the years ending the sth day of Ja nuary, 1840, 1841, and 142' distinguishing the actual pay ments for the expenses incurr ed in the collection and manage.. ment of the Revenue, for the charges of the Public Debt (the Terminable Annuities being also valued by estimate), for the expenses of the Civil Government, the allowances to each Mem ber of the Royal Family, and to their Majesties the Kings of Hanover and Belgium ; the establishment of the Lord Lieute nant of Ireland; . the expenses of the two Houses of Parlia ment, and the Civil Dopartments ; the other Pensions on the Consolidated Fund, on the gro4 Revenue and the Civil Li --also, the Payments for the Administration of Justice, Diplo matic Expenses, and the pa yments on account of the sums voted for the Army, Navy, Ordnance, and Miscellaneous Ser. vices : --also, Public Works, Bounties, Post-office, the Qua rantine and Warehousing Establi.hments, arid all other pay ments not coming under any of the foregoing heads: with an Appendix, showing the severa l items composin g each head of t he account ; distinguishing . t he amount paid for Retired Al owaneesi or Half-pay. RETIREMENT OF THE JUDGES. Lord J. RUSSELL, o n rising to move for copies of letters of the late Lord President of the Court of Session in Scotland, and the late Chief Justice of the Queen's Bench in Ireland, re signing their judicial offices, observed that he made the motion in consequence of the circumstances under which their resigna tion appeared to have taken plac e ; he said appeared to have taken place, because the letters be proposed to mo ve f or m i g ht give som e co l our to t h e transaction. He (Lord John Russell) said that it was of importance that the House should be vigilant in its attention to whit occurred with respect to the Judges; I iisey were placed in a high station, they had large salaries, their nomination was for life, and they had retiring pensions when they were unable to perform their duties. The performance of those ditties ought to be strictly observed by the public and Par liament. Generally speaking, the Judges had very little reason to complain of the mode in which they were treated by Parliament and the public. When Judges were placed in such high stations he thought it but right that they should ex pect such a full and entire devotion to their judicial duties, that nothing of a party or political character should attach to them. ---( Hear.) The circumstances which had occurred, and which were certainly, he thought, circumstances of suspicion, were, that no sooner was one set of Ministers changed for another, than two of the highest persons, the one the Chief Justice of the , Queen's Bench in Ireland, and the other the Law President of , the Court of Session in Scotland, resigned their offices, and ac cepted their retirement. Now, such a circumstance upon the face of it, must lead to one of two conclusions, either that those high officers felt they were unfit to porform their duties properly, I or that they had 'resigned their _ offices into the hands of those whom they considered their friends, in order that they might have the oppertunity of filling up these judicial situations. One of these two cases appeared probable, otherwise it was hardly likely that two such extraordinary events should have been contemporanedus; but it might be explained by the letters fur which he moved, that, singular as the case might be, it did happen in September or October, 1841, that illness was the cause of the resignation of both Judges. If the letters, or the statement which might be made to the House, should prove this, ail suspicion would be removed. At the same time, there were some extraordinary circumstances which it was necessary to explain. One was, that the Chief Justice of the Queen's Bench in Ireland had for some time been very seldom able to perform his duties.—( Hear, hear.) The other was, that when , the Lord President of the Court of Session in Scotland re signed, a near relation was appointed to the vacancy.-:--( Hear, hear.) Now, really it was suspicious that these Judges should have retained their situations until they could deliver them to their political friends.—( Hear, hear.) But considering the eminent station they filled, and the purity of character they ought to maintain and the pains they ought to take to keep clear of all political influences ; it would in deed be a very great misfortune if Judges were 30 to abuse their position as to take advantage of the Act by which they could not be deprived of their places for misconduct, except by an address from both Houses of Parliament, so far as not to consider the best mode of performing their honourable du ties so much ashow the Treasury Bench was occupied.--( Hear, hear.) There could be no charge made against the Execu tive Government on account of this case. It was their duty to accept the resignations when offered upon good and valid grounds, and then to select men of legal ability in character to fill the vacancies. Against the successors of the late Judges he had nothing to say, for the names of the former were a sufficient guarantee for the proper discharge of their functions. It was not, therefore, with a view to make any c' arge against the Executive Government, that he moved for those docu ments ; but he introduced the subject in order that its dis cussion might operate somewhat as a warning to persons in the high stations of those learned personages, to show them that they ought not to allow themselves to be guided by political partiality, and that as Judges they should consider themselves as totally removed from all parties, and not as partisans either of the Whig or of the Tory side of the House.—(Hear, hear.) With these few observations, he begged leave to move for copies of the letters, according to the notice he had given. Sir J. GRAHAM said, that before the Noble Lord had risen for the purpose of explaining the reasons which had in duced him to bring forward the present motion, he confessed that after the hest attention which he could give to the matter, he remained in the greatest doubt as to what could have been the moive or the intention of the Noble Lord. If the Noble Lord had brought forward any accusation against the Govern ment, if he had - any doubt as to the purity.of their conduct, or had any question to bring forward, touching the motives which had induced them to give effect to those resignations, then he would have been perfectly prepared tojustify the course they had pursued. But the Noble Lord had said, that with respect to the Executive Government he had no cause of complaint—that they had no option in accepting those resignations when duly attesteu. They had no alternative but to accept the resignations of parties known for their long services, and to exercise their best dis cretion in advising the Crown with respect to the manner in which the vacancy should be filled up. The Noble Lord had admitted that he had no complaint to make of the manner in which the Executive had discharged its duty; and he had brought forward the present motion as it apps ared, not for the purpose of reflecting on the characters of the two venerable Judges who had lately retired from presiding, the one over the Courts of Common Law in Ireland, and the other over the ' Judicature of Scotland. The Noble Lord said that he brought - forward the motion in order that it might serve as a warning to all future Judges not to follow their example. But he ( Sir James Graham) so far from joining in the warning which had been administered by the Noble. Lord, should say that these Judges had left a bright example for the imitation of all who might hereafter fill similar situations.—(Cries of " Hear," on the Ministerial benches, and laughter from the Opposition.) Tneir merits were, in Ms opinion, of the highest order; their impartiality could not be impugned; and the testimony of the bar in both countries was the evidence upon which he relied when he made that assertion.—(Hear, hear.) With regard to Chief Justice Bushe, he ( Sir James Graham) saw opposite a Learned Gentieman who had of late years been opposed to that Learned Judge, but still he was satisfied that, as a barrister of distinction in Ireland, he would admit that the address which had been presented to Chief Justice Bushe, on his retiring from the Bench in Ireland, by Mr. Dickson, the father of the Irish Bar, and which had been unanimously adopted, was a sufficient proot of, the great admiration which was entertained of the talents and conduct of that learned person, while it leit nothing which he could himself desire on his retiring into private life. He did not rise for the purpose of passing any eutogium on the late Chief Justice of the Queen's Bench in Ireland, but he would say that among the most distinguished men in Ireland in those days of her glory, he stood prominently forward, and lost nothing in comparison with such men as Grattan and Curran, and Flood, and the other great men of that nation.— Acid he did not think it advisable that the Noble Lord should, now that the Lord Chief Justice of Ireland had retired into private life, bring forward a motion to make his retirement a warning to all other Judges._( Hear, and Ministerial cheers.). With regaid to the Lord President of Scotland, he (Sir James Graham), though he was not acquainted with him, had under stood that learned person had first presided as Lord Chief Jur. tice Clerk, and had been afterwards Lord President of the Courts of Scotland for many years, and he (Sir J. Graham) had never understood until the present moment that his inte grity or conduct as a Judge had been called in question.— ( Cheers.) He for sometime thought that the intention of the Noble Lord in bringing forward his motion was, that he was anxious to inquire whether the present Government had fol lowed the example of the Government of which he (Lord J. Russell was a member, in entering into negotiations— ( Loud Ministerial cheers)—whether the present Govern ment had employed the Solicitor-General to enter into certain negotiations—(Cheers)—with respect to the Lord-Pre sistent's allowance—whether the Solicitor-General waited on the Lord Advocate or Lord President to say that a Bill had been introduced which would alter the rate of the retiring allowance—( Loud cheers)—and when a vacancy should occur to remove the Lord Advocate, and then that the Solicitor- General should succeed him.—( Cheers.) He ( Sir James Graham) thought that the constitutional jealousy of the Noble Lord—(Laughter)—not to sly his experience in office— ( Renewed laughter)—must have excited those scruples in his mind, and could not permit him to be a party to transactions of that description.—( Cheers. ) He would now declare, on the part of her Majesty's Government that there had been no communication, directly or indirectly, with the Lord President res iecting his retirement.—(Cheers.) He knew the Noble Lord said that it wa's most important the Heuie should pay attention to the resignation of Judges, and he had not con futed his jealouiy to Scotland, but had extended it to Ireland also. —( Hear, hear.) Net only had Lord Cnief Justices retired, but they had heard of the retirement of Lord Chancellors,— ( Hear, hear.) They had heard of Lord Chancellors retiring, not on the accession of a Government to office, but when the Government was. virtually condemned—(Near, hear)—and when its existence was known to its_members to be impossible. —( Hear, hear, from the Tories.) He should like the House to hear tinder what circumstances the Lord Chief Justice had retired from Ireland; there was no doubt what the conduct had been, connected with the retirement of Lord Chief Justice Bushe, but the circumstances remained yet to be inquiied into. But the circumstances which made Lord Plunkett retire, were stated by himself, on the day he left office; and he ( Sir James Graham) would now read that Nobleman's statement to the House. It was of vast importance that they saw whether there had been any indirect communication.—( Hear, hear, from the Tories.) He (Lord Plunkett) says, " With regard to the particular circumstances which have occasioned my retirement, I feel it is a duty which I owe to myself, and the members of the bar, to state that, for my retirement on this occa sion, I am not in the slightest degree answerable. I have never, directly or indirectly, sanctioned it; and in giving my as - sent to the proposal which was mails to me of retiring, 1 was guided solely by its having been required of me as a personal favour to do so, by a person to whom I am under so great obligations, that an irresistible weight of gratitude—( Hear, hear, arid lan , liter, from the Ministerial benches)—made it impos s ibl e •-• ' for me to do anything but what I have done."—( Hear, hear. ) Ile ( Sir J. Graham) would simply showto the House and the country, that with respect to the retirement of Lord Pre sident Hope and Chief Justice Bustle, that neither of them were asked to retire from office, either on the ground of personal favour or debts of gratitude. The Government never in any 4f ay t am p ere d w i t h t h ose learned , persons; their resignations were freely offered, and were accepted by the Government, on public grounds only, as freely as they had been offered : they were now filled according to the best judgment of the Government; and he (Sir J. • Graham) would not consent, unless by a vote of that House, to stamp with disgrace those venerable persons. He would most willingly produce the letters required of him. Would he could produce those venerable persons before the House, Weakened they might be with age arid infirmity, but still strong in honesty and principle. lie ( Sir J. Graham) knew so well the feelings of that llouse. that he was sure all angry feel ings of party would be laid aside, and the wish would lie, not to curse their retirement with pangs such as a motion like this might convey, but to treat them with respect and attention ; and even the Noble Lord himself (Lord J. Russdl) would regret that in a hasty moment he hail been led into the bringing ;or ,' ward such a motion.—( Hear, hear. ) Mr. FOX M AULE heartily agreed with the Honour ! able Gentleman in the last wish he had expressed. He did wish that, as far as Scotland was concerned, he could produce the venerable gentleman who had so lately retired from his duties. ( Hear, hear, hear.) ,He would be sorry to use any expressions but those of respect for that , gentlemen ; yet it was well known in Scotland that the state • of the Lord President had been such for many months past that he could not adequately perform the duties of his office. He would ask the Lord-Advocate, whom he saw opposite, whe ther, when the Lord President presided in that Court, he d;d not at the close of the Session state in the assembly of the Judges, that on account of his increasing infirmities he must give up, and could no longer attend to the performance of the duties of his office, and this before the late Government had brought forward their last motion, which had decided them against continuing in office? Nor had this been the first in stance of his doing so. The Hon. Gentleman stated that the bar of Scotland was ready to bear testimony to the ability with which he performed his duties, but it had been the forbear ance of the bar which had enabled him to perform those duties so long, on account of his age and infirmity. The position of an English Judge was different, because he formed his judg ment on written pleadings in the retirement of his chamber, and after listening to the pleadings he. gave his judgment in Court. So that an English Judge might diseharge his duties much more easily than a Scotch Judge. In the Jury Court of Scotland, after hearing the evi dence, the duty of charging the jury devolved especially on the head of the Court, and the Lord President had not for some time performed that duty. it had been left to the junior mem bers of the Bench. He would a'lude also to another case, that of Lord Corehouse, who had retired from the Bench upwards of two years. During the whole of that time the indignation of the Hon. Gentleman had slumbered and slept. Ile could plead ignorance on the subject, because the papers were trans mitted to him ; and he believed that, if the simple facts of that case were known to Gentlemen opposite, he thought they would regret the cheers they had given. That venerable Judge had been visited with a paralytic stroke while engaged in the exe cution of his duty as President of the Court of Session in Scot land—he was rendered incapable, in the opinion of his medical advisers, to perform the duties of his office, and the question for the Government was then, at that time when they had no prospect, no object to attain—at that time when there was no thing in the political horizon to induce them to shape their course in any particular way—to procure the retirement from of f ice of Lord Corehouse. The question in that case was, whether Lord Corehouse should apply for leave of absence, which must, from his state of health at the time, have terminated in his resignation, or whether he should have immediately retired from office.—(Hear, hear. ) The question which then weighed upon Lord Corehouse's mind was, that there was a Bill then under the consideration of Parliament for the purpose of regulating the retiring sala ries of Judges. If Lord Corehouse retired, then he could not partake of the benefits' proposed to be conferred on retiring Judges ; but if he took advantage of, or obtained leave of ab sence, he was likely to come within the provisions of that Bill. The question was not whether the appeintment was in danger of lapsing from the Government, but whether, if a vacancy was then caused by the retirement from office of Lord Corehouse, and his place left to be filled up on the Bench by a more effi cient servant, a clause should be introduced ie the bill which would give him the benefit of a retiring salary to which other Judges of his class would have been entitled. He ( Mr. F. Mauls) was a party to the introduction of the clause in the Bill, and he had not the least hesitation to say so then before the puclic. He thought it was an act of justice. He was struck with compassion for that learned and venerable person, who was at an advanced period of his life, struck, by the visitation of Providence, with an afflicting complaint, and rendered incapa ble of performing the duties of his office.—( Hear, hear.) For the purpose of making the Court more efficient, he (Mr. Mauls) consented to the introduction into the Bill of the clause to which he alluded, and the Right Hon. Baronet (Sir. James Graham) had thought it worth his while to give a party cheer—( Hear, hear )—over his Noble Frie n d (Lord J. Russell) by adverting to the matter as he had ' • at the same time, he (Sir J. Graham) must have forgotten how much obloquy must have attached to himself, for if that was looked upon as an in terference on the part of the late Government, or if it had the effect of rendering impure the channels of justice, why did not the Right Hon. Baronet bring forward this question in his place in Parliament some few years ago?—(Loud cheers.) The Right Hon. Baronet shook his head, but. he (Mr.. Alaule) would leave the public to decide between the charge that had been made and the answer which was given to it.--:(Loud cheers.) With respect to the President of the Court of Ses sion in Scotland, he (Mr. Mauls) observed that the judgments of that Court were latterly so different as to give deep and se rious disgust.—( Hear, hear.) He would allude to one of those judgments, which was perhaps the most important that ever was pronounced by a judicial tribunal in Scotland, and one in which that venerable Judge who had latterly presided, was called upon to give his opinion as Lord President—the question was as to the rights of the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland in the Strathbo g ie case.—( Hear, hear.) So far did the Lord President allow his temper to get the better of his dis cretion, and he (Mr. Mettle) gave it the most charitable con struction, in stating that—that instead of delivering his judg ment with that calmness which would give it effect, and that deliberation which would give it weight, and entitle it to the re spect of the parties concerned in it, he compared the General As sembly, or at least the majority of them, with persons of as very inferior grade.—(Hear.) He used, with reference to theGe rieral Assembly of the Church of Scotland, a simile, for which lie (Mr. Maude) supposed he was indebted to the Right Hon. Baronet opposite—(Laughter and loud cheers)—he called the General Assembly a set of thimble-riggers---(Loud laughter) —and, in his judgment, that Learned Judge stated 'that the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland were not only like, but put him in mind of a set of thimble-riggers, or a set of men who tossed in a race course, Heads iwin—(Laughter)— and Harp you loose.—(Loud laughter.) He certainly had used those terms in pronouncing his judgment in that grave and important ease. There were certain gentlemen from Scotland then in the House, and he (Mr. Mule) defied asty of them to deny that those expressions were used by the President of the Court of Session in delivering that judgment. Would any gentleman, who walked Westminster-hall, hear such language as that proceed from any of the Judges there ? Would any gentleman tell him, that if any such language as that fell from Lord Denman, it would not in that House be made the subject of great disapprobation, at the least? He wished not to hut t the feelings of any party ; but he must say that there was so much of temper mixed up with the judgment, that it had excited in Scotland a feeling of indignation, and had done more to widen the breach between the Civil and the Church Courts than anything he had ever recollected.— ( Hear, hear.) The Right Hon. Baronet opposite, the Member for Tamworth, could set at rest any suspicion with respect to the Lord President that was entertained in Scotland. He had been told that the Lord President tendered his resignation in 1834, during the Right Hon. Baronet's former Administration. He (Mr. F. Mamie) could scarcely credit that ; but, for the sake of the Learned Judge's character, it ought to be stated • whether he did so or not.—( Hear, hear.) He had no reason to believe the Executive Government had any thing to do with the resignation of the Lord President; he entirely absolved them from all charge upon that head. What could they do but, having the resignation, appoint as successor - the party they should best think calculated to fill the office? This matter had excited much conversation and a great deal of suspicion in Scotland, and though he was ready to absolve the Government from hand, act, or part in that resignation, he was not sure that the Right Hon. Baronet's defence of the . Lord President would allay that suspicion.-- ( Hear, hear.) Sir W. RAE never doubted that the motion of the Noble Lord had been made upon public grounds, for it was impossible to suppose that he would be a party to an attack upon an aged person, who had long and well served his country.—(Hear, hear.) But the object of the motion was aggravated in an ex traordinary manner by the speech of the Right Hon. Gentle man who had just sat down • and he (Sir W. Rae) could only express his surprise that he should have thus heaped coals of fire on the head of a venerable old man, who had not an opportunity of defending himself. This was the more ungenerous, as the charge was unfounded. Mr. Hope, the late Lord President :was as sound in his mind now as he had been any time these ten years. Mr. F. MAULE—I never said he was of unsound mind.— ( Oh, oh ! and Order.) Sir W. RAE—You said the state of his mind affected his judgment.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. F. MAULE—I never said so.—(Order.) Sir W. RAE—The Lord President was perfectly able to perform his duties down to the hour of his resignation. With respect to the Jury Court, the Lord President had invariably attended the first division of it, which was the department be longing to his position. But it was a fact that his Lordship had been so lame in his lower limbs, that it was with greatdiffi culty he could enter a carriage or ascend to his seat on the bench. That individual was now seventy-eight years of age—(Hear, hear, from the Opposition)—and he had officiated in his Court for the last thirty-eight years. The Hon. Gentleman had alluded to the Church question. It might, perhaps, be a popular subject in Scotland, but he (the Lord Advocate) did not wish to indulge in its discussion at that moment. He should say, however, that he had never heard, until that evening, the words which had been attributed to the Lord President ; and, if he had used them, that had not come to his knowledge. If ever there was address which gave proof of high intellect, it was that of the Lord President to those parties who had been brought up for censure before him. There never was a more dignified, able, and elegant address, than that which had thus been delivered six months ago.— ( Hear, hear.) But he did not wish that the character of that learned personage should rest solely on his testimony. The Faculty of Advocates, at a very numerous meeting of their body, had unanimously agreed to a most cor dial and affectionate address to the Lord President on his re tiring from his office. In that address they stated then' sense of the distinguished ability and integrity with which he had discharged the duties of his situation. They bore their testimony to the learning, eloquence, and impartiality 'by which he had commanled ,uch universal confidence and respect, by expressing a hope that he might enjoy in private life that re pose and happiness which would be the fitting reward of his long labours and eminent virtues.—( Hear, hear.) At this stage of his life were they to assail the character of so distinguisned a man—a man who had passed thirty-right years of his lite in the service of his country? During the whole of that time he had filled his situation with honour to himself, and without any consideration for his own interest. He had won the respect and admiration of the whole bar of Scotland. He had held office under the Government of 1830 to the satisfaction of all parties, having filled the office of Solicitor-General, and ample opportunities were then offered for his consulting his own interest. He (the Lord Advocate) felt strongly on this subject, and he felt that a more unjust accusation was never I made, or a more ungenerous one.—(Cheers.) Mr. O'CONNELL said that he did not think that the mo tion of the Noble Lord was brought forward in the manner most calculated to insure success.—( Hear.) The Right Hon. Baronet appealed to him for his testimony in favour of Chief Justice Isushe, which he insinuated would be the more valuable as he differed from him in politics. Now, he, (Mr. O'Connell thought that a T s he a y h C a n d ie n f o J t u d s i t ff ic e e re h d e in sh p o o u l l i d tie h s a t v il e DO politics.—. • he ( ° th li e tic• L 3 o — rd ( C C h h i e e e f r J s. u ) stice Bushe) got a seat upon the bench. 7 hen began his career by voting against the Union. He stood in many respects superior to the Grattans, and the Currans, and the Ponsonbys of his day--(Cheers)—and inferior to them and many other. He had the happiest voice that ever human being was blessed with. He was an excellent lawyer, and an ac c omplished gentleman, but the Charles Bushe of that day was not the Charles Bushe who retired when the present Go vernment came into office--( Hear, hear .) Atter h e had ceased to,be of use upon the Bench, he adhered to his seat with the most unhappy constancy, and with the most desperate tenacity. —( Hear.) He spoke of him with regret, he spoke with regret of his memory, or rather of his recollectien, to his memory was not to be spoken of at all.—(Hear, hear, and laughter.) For four or five years he had not presided in:the Nisi Prius Court, the duties of which he devolved upon one of the junior Judges. It was unhappily the case in Ireland that a Judge's salary was retrenched if he did not go a circuit, but it was known that Chief Justice Bushe spent two clays at the .Maryborough Assizes, in deciding a few cases of registry ap peals. llis memory and his faculties had forsaken hien, and his incompetency was apparent to all his best friends who wished and urged him not to continue in office. It was melancholy that such a state of things should exist, and it required she greatest constitutional jealousy.—( Cheers. ) The addresses of the bar had been spoken of by the Right Hen. Baronet, but it was not difficult to see of what little value they were for the purposes for which he used them. Perhaps the Right Hon. Baronet would not give him credit for it, but he could assure him it was with considerable pain he was thus forced to speak of the late I.ord Chief Just ice.—( Hear, hear.) There was another instance in Ireland of the same kind, which Would be brought before the House at another tinie.--( Hear, hear.) He thought the Noble Lord was perfectly right in bringing forward a question of that constitution and nature in order to terrify Judges from continuing in office until the mo ment when a political party came into power.—(Cheers.) Mr. SHAW said he rose for the purpose of contradicting the Hon and Learned Gentleman, not with respect to his merited eulogium on the late Lord Chief Justice, but with re spect to matters of fact. He (Mr. Shaw) always understood that Chief Justice Bustle attended his Court very regularly ,until the last term, and that he then intimated to his friends, without reference to those who occupied the Treasury Benches, his intention of resigning. He was astonished at the boldness of the Noble Lord in bringing forward the present motion after the case of the late Lord Chancellor.—(Hear, hear.) He believed, and he had every rea on to know, that terms were offered to Mr. Justice Johnson, and that one of his family had been offered a civil appointment, and another, preferment in the Church.—(Loud cheers.) The Noble Lord provoked every thing there had been said, and yet there neverwassatipGeonvdti•rarriy ment which made so complete a clearance in the publi c o ffi ces as the late Administration, in the Police, the Magistracy, and other Departments, for the .purpose of promoting and advancing their own supporters.—(('heers.) Mr. O'CONNELL said he did not know whether the Hon. and Learned Gentleman opposite meant to convey that he (Mr. O'Connell) had spoken of the last summer circuit. He had, however, not done so. He referred to the last March Circuit. Mr. WAK LEY said, it could not be denied that this mo tion had given rise to a most edifying discussion ; and it was a most useful thing to the public that some people should fall out and disagree, because, by such means they let the people a little into their secrets, and informed them of what was going on in certain political parties. He (Mr. Wakley) was in the habit of making certain marks opposite the various notices on the paper which seemed to intimate the importance or unim portance of the different topics. Some he marked as useless; some he marked as nonsense ; but, strange to say, he had marked the notice of the Noble Lord as " Suicide"—(Loud laughter)—and he thought he might perhaps be called upon to act on it in his official capacity.--( Renewed laughter. ) He knew nothing of the present case, but he would say that even if all the allegations made against those Judges were true, that they were not so culpable as those men who had been in the habit for a long series of years of appointing people to the judicial bench, solely on accouut of the politics they enter tained. Was it fit that the judgment seat should be a political institution?—(Hear, hear.) Was it ry a scandal to the Legislature —a disgrace to the intelligen& of the nation—and a reflection on the good sense of the people of thit country, that the judicial appointments should always depend on the politics of the party ?—(Hear.) He did not say that the pr!see_ t : t /1 ; ministration was more reprehensible than other adennl.'„ieb tions, but he hoped that this would be a useful lessotn; that is might guide them right in making future appe:ntine: t" titularm i ;ht notvie views, said but thatbee because e a man his was selected qualifications such as eminently to fit him for the office.—( Hear.) ie le? re_ iif to a iu ° , to S it i n r o ß y . ti P m E t t E h L e ;aid, the G th o e ve l rn lon m . en G t e h n a tl a em be a e n n o i p ri p n : its judicial appointments by the politics of the parties he (Sir 11. Peel) would convince him that her Majesty s, vernment was not open to the imputations which tr . 1 . , , en 0 7; were apt to throw on it.—( Hear.) The name of L at ) 11. ' house reminded him that it was by him (Sir R. Peel) I Cranstoun had been placed on the bench.—( Hear, he ar s2 ot lsoe had selected that gentleman for the judicial bench in r, he solely on account of his professional fitness.—( fle a b a d the He had disregarded all political claims. and he had seneft proud pleasure of conferring on the public a great utior.) by securing the labours of Mr. Cranstoun.—( Hear , d been now. With respect to the three judicial offices which ha in the appointment of the Government since it cameo tel ent o f The Hon. Gentleman said with respect to the appteissd he ght 'll ; 7 ° l Mr. Cresswell, he had not a word to say ; 'he thou thought justly, that the appointment of Mr. Cresswea. ims, most proper one, and a just reward for his professionhle7i4. and with respect to his political opinions, they had t '. o ot• vided assent of the public as to the fitness of the apeote: s .,,, t ity But then there were two other appointments in the '' ,l( l so Courts, created by the Bill of the last Session, sold high an opinion did the present Government t the ir of the judicial services of Lord Cottenham th a 00 of first act after the passing of the Bill was to tender to 11 0 , 0 s p• those judgeships. Lord Cottenham declined to accept tn a th e pointment, and he (Sir R. Peel) could well undersno motives that had induced him to do sn ; it was searcel?teet4; expected, in consequence of his position, thathewoul daL but the Government were determined not to forego the effect. tunity of offering it to Lord Cottenham, and therehYof high ing a saving to the country, and also showing to mefl ercl professional reputation that the Government were det% s tioa not to pass them by. He would now give also an eirt'res to of all he knew as to the retirement of the Judges reitesera' by the Noble Lord. The Noble Lord acquitted the ment of any blame. His motion was directed aga i :, bar Judges themselves ; and, he must say, when he heard "" e .isleat of each of the Courts in which those Learned Judge s F r t thoe e I offering the. expres?ion of their unanimous opinion W oe te• Judges might repose in uninterrupted happiness for mainder of their days, it was painful to think that such re pose de bate' should be interrupted, and that happiness prevented , by I le e „ in that House, intended to convey reflections upon th, pet was not prepared for the resignation of his valuable frienordost Chief Justice Bushe. He (Sir R. Peel) had not h i t s the / his powers were undermined, but it was intimated to P'bsting his Lordship wished to resign, being now 75 years of age' hariags, been Attorney-General from 1805 to 1815, a n 'Z is h 1 "; served the Administration of the party to Noble Lord belonged with equal fidelity to tht ere fore, which he served his own. He (Sir R. Peel) ,te us itee thought, that a recollection of the lustre which ln e . is i s try abilities of Plunkett and of Bushe reflected on the Adm i t° es" tion of Ireland, ought to have induced the Noble Lordoos) empt the late Lord Chief Justice from that attack.-- The Lord Chief Justice signified his wish to resign sole 4e, account of the infirmities attending seventy-five year! be (Sir There was no stipulation as to a successor, and if Robert Peel) interfered at all, it would be to throw e s 0 10,' tions in the way of the retirement of so distinguis hed bi t His character might be estimated from the address ', s i r It. been presented to him by the Bar of Ireland; and he t‘) Ire Peel) could not but think that the advocate for justice fes siOe s land was the first man to throw imputations on the Pre tic hta/ to which he belonged--(Chters from the Ministerial Widget —describing it as a Bar whose addresses to retiriog ii, pal e were mere waste paper, for when a leader made a c a ' ,t had the meanness to comply, and others , had (,or, courage to refuse.—( Hear, and cheers.) ° dot b ' President signified his des:re to retire also, s tating w ste was seventy-eight years of age, and weighed down bY t 34 It was supposed that some inducement had been hc It a the Lord President to influence him t 3 resign his ofil ee "is not indeed, expressly stated that the appoint men t ofo inna te was connected with his retirement; but it had been ils sir It that some such nature operated on his mind. flee sfq Peel) altogether disclaimed the imputation. Therspod,' kind of connection between the two - events ; and the ai d bee' ment of the son had been made out and his salary h a s phd fixed before her Majesty's Government had consider7usea: arrangement might be made with respect to the aPl' e t of the of a successor to the Lord President. The appoint 100 ret ire' son was not in the slightest degree connected with the c oae ment of the father. The son had been appointed i n s rlit; 'Aimee with that rule which the Hon. Gentleman "7,f posed to apply so rigidly—be was appointed Dean of Faculty, because he had been elected by the universal voice be the Bar of Scotland to that most honourable position,,,l i ot iss ,l ' cause he (Sir R. Peel) believed that the Bar of o i l 10 0 admitted that no more distinguished advocate W el 011 11 1 been selected :han Mr. John Hope--( Hear, hear) .--t ,' ) „Le r o'fice. The Hon. Gentleman bad asked whether t'!„" te , Y„' President had not signified a wish to retire in 1834 071 ,7 to l": 1 He (Sir R. Peel) declared, singular as it might aPP es. he h i fon. Gentleman, that, as far as his memory went, 3to oef," not the slightest recollection of such a cire en' t si t' fv that charge with the other?—( Hear, hear.) But supposing it had been made, how utterly intone': evol tenure of office was somewhat precarious in 1835 ; a e s s i t His (sir Palio lieved that after the vote upon the Speakership, he et e s s he a ' s pretty well foreseen what would have been his fate. io have thought, too, that the Hon. Gentleman's confidencheees own Administration in 1840 must have been somewhat c d after he had found in 1839 that the Ministry had ft!, Ot t cessary to resign because they did not possess the_ytnlietiwit dente.—(Hear, hear.) But what was it the kW h ., Pe e now asked? Why, simply this—whether he (Sir no. Geer had the viriue in 1835 to resist the proposal ? The s ° . ° 4, tlernan admitted that he had deserved some cre0"., 0 51 , 1,i having a plausible ground for accepting the offer of re a ;r e he had still not availed himself of the opportunity. , s ubJ that if the Hon. Gentleman spoke again upon such a iu oec he would recollect that he must have a hope of age' hear', pying a seat on the Treasury Benches.—(l lo ,r; e sde e He asked him upon what those disclosures were 1,, - s ien',. (Loud cheers)—and if the Hon. Gentleman's c°,l-i5O the would decide that they were altogether on one side s° ;bacr: favour he (Sir R. Peel) would desire him to 0 5-5- case' i s (Laughter and cheers.) But, supposing this was the bs etiL (Sir H. Peel) could not take the credit of having dee..., accept it. But if this offer were made, it a Robert Peel) that he would be perfectly justified in ' a r f ss ea!, the Lord President, " You mistake your infirmities, the) - y et v; ferent from what you suppose them to be, there lies, ti intellects which you can apply to public service; InY % t er.) , friend, is that you should remain."—(Cheers and la lig us rob he took that course, it would be reconcileable with a sa9s" e , firmed by the debate in 1839.—( Hear, hear.) 111 i ft eals ppeared to lior tig, !! , (Sir R. Peel) had advised the Lord President to remalehe r eh p aid devote the remainder, or a portion, of his years I° ,l e mas s t ot service he should have beep met by the Hon. Gen th e P is s Under Secretary of State, by stating that that wo, i , 30'7,1 time he had heard that that distinguished and vene ra te was afflicted with mental indisposition, although his s P s , powers might have been impaired by the labour of Y ea i s tol; Under Secretary of State would then have been rea, ; serer for the full application of all his mental nosi . sie Right Hon. Baronet concluded by saying it was I ns tention to oppose the motion. bpi P r t i c t Lord J. RUSSELL said the question which he n oce oo c posed was a very simple one indeed, and the only an had received to it was from the Secretary of State for " ssi e Department. 'That Right Hon. Gentleman had gi v ,'" - be thiig like an answer, but as to a defence, not one , t ( I '; '' s l tlemen opposite attempted to make any such thi e b . s' cheers.) His (Lord J. Russell's) statement was t " 1 :,; c a ice there were grounds to suspect that two Judges , s b i e e l ed ° o' high on the judicial bench—(Hear, hear)—had re` a " - hosil' s ;r at a time when they were infirm, either in mind or 11 i 0 i 00 stead of giving in their resignation, until another came into office, and he (the Noble Lord) said that ll ob eat to admitted to have been done—if Judges holding those t b ,7 l o 4ll lit Lions were to look at the state of the Houses of rar - as o los see whether one party had a majority over the others,l ( er 6 0) ther they ought to postpone their resignation u o " ii gas s ; o ; Ministerial changes would have taken place—he (Lor d lices e k i iir' said that was conduct which must have the effect ° ire h io the character of those Judges in the estimation of tl2oo° he —(Hear, hear, and cheers. ) He had heard much ' - s arolioe, own side of the House in corroboration of the stat e se stite' t hat, made, and very little was said on the other Le ' ss ide ri t be of them.—(Cheers.) The I.earned Lord, the r r is th a d the Court of Session in Scotland, had stated him ° he stbit was incapable of performing the duties of his Office;; p s be that he hail great difficulty even in walking up the 9— sthi:jo s. court; that he was latterly afflicted with d e afnesss, se s, held his office.-~( Hear, hear.) Were those cha rit ihe e t :, 1 4. 1 afflictions so sudden as to occur immediately befor e s 4 eli s e. th e , nation of that Learned Judge ?—( Hear, hear, f t ".. di"„te o Had they all come on in 1841—(Loud cheers) -4' fri v l 4 Learned Lord, although he was c ome titneta in that way, postpone his resignation °, l „' r o of t was a change in the Ministry.—(" Hear, °, - t he cheers.) As to the case of the Lord Chief Justice e' sse ll) the of Queen's Bench in Ireland, he (Lord John 11° : 0 60 11 ,,,iti heard nothing except what had tended fully to e t ,' eli p l 'l o ' statements he had made. A Night Hon. Gentlro"." - tie' s " ( O r , (the Recorder for the City of Dublin) sated ti - a‘,•es s e s ' s oi firniities of body bad come on the Lord Chief . . 11 ,1;1r,Rr Court of Queen's Bench in Ireland only lately.- - ( ""f th e Fa' If that statement was made within the knowledg e cot der of Dublin, undoubtedly it would have great w e d ir gith i Es t that Right. Hon. Gent. did not state that the tarts werjujiliegi knowledge; and if the retirementof the Lord (h ief n er- -( 0 .5 caused in that way,. undoubtedly it was very f ro stie r ` ` c re°, o s , ,, hear)--but as those facts were not stated by the ' se e n) h `' e sr'; State for the Home Departmeat, he (Lord J. 11 , u ,_ s i ca r,,',0`; not take them as answers to his statement. —a e t te ssi v Was it to be admitted or asserted by the Memb ers ~35 tor vernment, that it was proper for a Judge—that it, (0 0t 5 •ing his character, t o use means , or watch t h e move"; litical parties, in order to wa it unt il certa i n Challg e :,;ire tbi nistrations had t a k en p l ace , t h at they t h en m ight • o no officeloud cheers.) With respect 'nor,se Judges in question, it was not denied that he was I,t'' from discharging his duties. With respect to the ot,- ettritt Phis were not refuted. Therefore he (Lord J. Ros' el 'Liect severe in calling for the letters which were the s e the i t he motion. At all events, there was this singular f3e tlY change of the Ministry had taken place coneuleas.) tied ter' resignation of both those Learned Judges.- -( , e tircs,hi; respect to Lord Corehouse, he (Lord J. Ruaseh ) h i s I , e r idir Hon. Friend then Under. Secretary, to write to., ,sand st,ioss, stating that his resignation must be unconditional, ' th i s ile ss e o stipulation of any kind ; and that having received T he o i fre tion, he might resign or retain his office as he clos e ' for the se sl Lord Plunkett was one of an entirely different u% res t g: of Lord Chancellor being held during pleasure, %hie v et e . ; from those that were held for life, He (th e „ ke tt's r k would not now enter into the reasons of Lord Pi e r s s erea r s t ap e s ment—(Laughter and cheers)—but would WI", t il leg" eh a his successor, Lord Compile% of whose politica 4 ,ow i s g alb e lities the House had often had the benefit, net _t ac ceP l , e , might be the effect of a dissolution—( Laughter) rei i r inV no t office, with the stipulation that he should have r ' arty coled3cl a s shin s This was an act for which the opßosite sugaen.aotoa show a precedent; nor did lie blame Sir &ca r t. of contping appointed, perhaps not with a greater trosne?' s t ser e in his office, for . not making a similar stirs), milt pe°, l be mentioned these cases, he (Lord John Russell). won' , s tis in asking for the letters, for he feared, othertsds(4, sroro_ . ar difficult to convince the country that Judges ch. •sj u t age a f t sO i s tical motives, delay the resignation of offices w°s l s 'i cs oslo`t o rd firmity had unfitted them to hold, and that sr: use the intended to be held nut, not as a warning, but, t° ( cheers ' cf the Right Hon. Bart. a precedent for o thers y s .-- ere --- . The House then divided, when the numbers s 5 For the motion ...........143 'J3 ... Against the motiqn ................. .••••• Majority... ........... ........ g. The Loan Societies Bill was read a secon th , Sir H. HA RDINGE brought up the Army 7 3 1 0 4 OW The other Orders of the Day were then di'aeys r House adjourned at a Quarter to Nino Is'Clock• ..tice' the jti f ' f The Lord Mayor yestr:rday stated itY• i :oici" to th e ° °l7 l; room, at the Mansion nouse, that he had rebce poor creatures who are brought in such nurn c e rs , he itt r , c ie room in a starving and almost naked condi ;01_ 1 T iiius el; scription made amonost the Members of th retis ed a t " Club, St, James's-square. His Lotelship cap ous ,isice„ e JO' grateful for the contribution, and said clubsas st e ues sed l ss si• they w °u trees which he daily endeavoured toalleviates it the members of hundreds of other wi Icl r follow the example, EVENING StIN