The Sun. — London, England, 1849-06-12 00:00:00

6 s ll ` r A e, C kit t 0 I SUN OFFICE, Seven o'Clock. AMERICAN NEWS. The following interesting extracts are from the I New York Weekly Herald, of May 30, brought by the American steamship Canada, which arrived at Liverpool this morning:— The steam-ship Southerner, Capt. Berry, arrived yes terday morning from Charleston, whence she sailed on Saturday last. Among her passengers is Lieut. Edw. F. Beale, of the United States Navy. He left San Francisco on the 14th April, in the steamer Oregon, and arrived at San Bias on the 22c1, where he remained five days, coaling. He left San Bias on the 27th, and arrived at Panama on the 6th M ty, at 9 P sr., after touching at Acapulco for water. On the 7th he arrived at and left Chagres in the barque Florida, and arrived at New Orleans on the 21st. Thence he took the mail route to Charleston, and thence came to this city in the Southerner, thus per farming the passage from San Francisco to New York in a r y-tone dap, the quickest trip on record. He crossed the Isthmus in seventeen days. T : i s passage 44t Lieutenant Beale is extraordinary in another view. It will be recollected that he was the bearer of di-patch-s to the Pacific squadron, and went overland, leaving Washington city last fall, and going by the way of Independence, Mo., and Sante Fe. He preceded Colonel Fremont a few weeks, and both him self and party suffered considerably by the severity of the winter in the mountains. If we are not mistaken, be reached California ahead of every one, delivered his dispatches, was entrusad with fresh ones for the Go vernment in Wa , bington, started for the United States, and will be in the White House to-night, thus bringing the answer to the dispatches he carried out, and an nouncing his own movements from the beginning to the end of his trip: The arrival of Lieutenant Beale, in the Southerner, with this late news from California, with a lump of gold weighing eight pounds, threw Wall-street into a state of the greatest excitement and delight. Mr. Aspinwall, of the house of Howland and Aspinwall, was surrounded with cro sds of eager brokers and merchants, all curious to catch a glimpse of the eight pound lump There was no mistalze about it. There was the pure gold fresh from Ei Dorado. No gold ever attracted more attention, or was mre coveted, than 'het lump. We shall see whet effect it will have on stocks. On the 6th of May the steam-ship California arrived at Panama from San Francisco. When Lieut. B. left San Francisco, she was to sail in two or three days; she, therefore; brings two or three days' later intelligence, which wiil reach us by the next arrival, with the Ore• gun's mails. The mails brought by the Oregon and California were at the Isthmus, waiting the arrival of a steamer at Chagres. The Oregon was to leave Panama about the 16th of May, on her return to San Francisco, and the Calfornia on the 26th, for the same destination. There were several sailing vessels also there, fitting up for pas- senors. We learn that Lieut. Beale has in his possession watch, encased in a big lump of pure California gold, 234 carats tine, with a brass cable chain, with large lumps of gold attached to every other link, hammered in in the roughest and richest protusion. Big lumps of gold were hammered together around the watch, till the whole, excepiing the face, was encased i❑ the precious metal. The key was a "chunk" of gold, with the pipe inserted in it for use. Altogether, it was one of the ugliest looking, and richest, and most valuable watches in existence. The Oregon, it will be remembered, left Panama en the 14th of MArch; she reached San Francisco on the Ist of April. We learn that labour was very high at San Francisco, and the quantity of shipping there very large. Many vessels were laid up. The price of goods had declined considerably, in con sequence of the stocks on hand, and still larger ones ex pee ed; .the fall had been very material. There was no end to the gold. Is richness and abundance more than confirmed all previous accounts. Although he himself brought a piece weighing eight pounds, Lieutenant Beale a , sur,s us that he has seen a lump actually weighing 25 poun,l3. He says that everybody is getting rich in California—that common labourers can almost make a fortune. Lieutenant Beale speaks in very high terms of the steamers California and Oregon. Among the crowd of ein:gr:lnts pouring into Cali fornia was Colcn-1 Fremont. We regret that Lieutenant B. is not acquainted with the quantity of gold dust shipped in the Oregon. Most of the article in the market is probably on board the Bale was pestered to death, with the crowds anxious to hear from California, and to see his lump of gold, &c., &c. Ho was glad to get out of the ciry, and left in the train at half past four o'clock, yesterday afternoon, for Washington. ADDITIONAL ACCOUNTS. Tho steam ship Severn arrivt.d at Mobile on the 21st, from Vera Cruz, and by her we received the following letter from our special correspondent : MEXICO, 111ay 12,1849. INTER - A:STING CALIFORNIA. ACC :LINTS F1i03.1 OUR SPECIAL 3IES , E2WER, en route TO TUE SCENE OF OPEESATI,,N. Si co the so .stylcd California fever commenced I have residk , d in different parts of the United States ; and not withstanding my most anxious endeavours, I found it im poisiblaz to gather any authentic account of this modern El Dorado. AdvAnc«l ii.l within daily communication with the I'..c;Ec ports, the accounts continue still so vague and contradict , ,ry t :at it is almost impossible to form any decdel ,:p:ni,lll. I Have convi.r:,ed with persons returned from Ff: , ncisco, with Our Consul at Mnithin, who ii at press nt in ibis city, and who hss advic, , s to the 9th of Api i; I have perused the San Francisco papers up to the 4th of April, thoso of Te.pec to the sth inst., and as some of the conclusions I derived might be of interest to your friends, I talc: the liberty to communicate them to von. , Those persons who returned to Mexico from San Francisco undoubtedly brought large sums of gold; but, at the beat, their character is so doubtful that common rumour here says this gold was the prpduce of gambling speculationi- but still those very persons are buying largely- here the m ineactur, s of the state of Guada loupe. Guanaxsto, Szc , and return immediately to California. The Malek Adel, and other vessels, have cirri d large amounts of gold to Mazatlan for coinage, on whn:n the collector of said p ort l ev i e d an import duty. Some days since, the secretary of the Treasury here published a decree, ordering the return of the duties levied, stating that he was not aware of any Jaw authorising the levying of import duties on precious metals, but directed the collectors to enforce the payment of export duties. • According to all accounts, an immense immigration bas - alreaAy arrived in California, principally from South America, the western states of the republic, the Austra lian archipelago, and Chili, so that at present the number of fer,igners to Ainericans is as One.to seven— tha- i 4, seven foreigners to ono American. The . newspapers of Sara Francisco make very little or no mention of gold; still, their advertising; columns prov e a prosperous trade. The newle-tpers of the Mexican PaAde ports, on the contrary, have the most glowing descriptions of the immense quantity of gold in the whole eotiro of th , . placers. I have before me Le Avocad de tepic of the sth inst., stating that in the immense ext,nt of the placers there was probably not a foot of ground of which a shovelful of soil did not contain at lea , t one poured of gold. Some of the Mtxican papers speak in rather excited terms about p,e intention of our Government to prohibit foreigners from the exploration of the placers. Tie mail for tine pa , :ket of the ]Sch is at the point of closing. I depart to•morrow for Acapulco, and expect to arrive at San Francisco in the beginning of next :north. and I shall k.ep you, by every - means, advised of 11 1 I that may be of interest to your readers. ESTAFETTE. DESTRUCTIVE FIRE AT Triay.—TßOY, MAY 29.—A. fire broke ~ u r, this morning; at Marshall's bleach works, Ida llill, Troy, which de,troyed nearly the whole works, besides a considerable amount of property, among which w: re all the sheetings and other goods of the steamer Empire, which were taken from the wreck. Loss - - - not yet . , iscertain d—pArtially insured in the Troy Mutual Company. CRUNCH FIRED BY LIGHTNING —PITTSBURGH, MAT 28.—The cupola of the Third kr.rsbyterian Church of this at-, , was struck by lightning to-day, and set on fire. Fortunately, however, the f a ll ing ra i n extin guished. the LI ,rnes ; and the damage done to the church is blight. THE LONDON GAZETTE (THIS EVENING.) FOREIGN OFFICE, JUNE 11, 1849. FIFICATION. L is hereby no►ified, that Viscount Palmerston, her Majesty's Principal Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs. h:a received a despatch from her Majesty's Musser at Napl-s, containing a copy of a letter from the :Napoli Commode,re to the French Naval Cora mtniter at Palermo, and which wa communicated by the French Consul to her Majesty's Consul at that place, announcing that the Blockade of Palermo and the adjacent coast hart been raised. BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED. Edwin Twizell Gough, boardinghouse-keeper, Ed monton. BANKRUPTS. Lewia Pesman Capua, fruit merchant, Dukes-place, Alligate, to surrender June 20, at one, and June 25, at halt-past twelve, at tho Court of Bankruptcy. Pennell, official assignee_; Marten, Thomas, and Hollams, Min cing-lane, City. Given Mort,,n, draper, New-road; Whitech a p e l- roa d , June 19. at twelve, and Jlly 24, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Basing hall street; Ease, Staph, I nn . Willi:lm Orchard, marquee inanuf cturer, West Smith field. June 18, at hail-past one, and July 23, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Turquan3, official assignee, Guildhall-chambkrs; Lowrance and Plows, Old Jewry chambers. John White, corn merchant, Northampton, June 21, at halt-past one. ni July 23, at half-past eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Graham, official assig n( e, Cole man -street, City ; Pittendreigh and Stevenson, Gray's Inn. Thomas Inglis, baker, New .straet, St. Martin's in-the- Fields, June 22, at twelve, and July 25, at half-pa s t twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Green, offi c i a l si - signee, Guildhall Chambers, Basingball-street; I*4rd, Son, and Freeman, Old Jewry; Freeman and Co., Brighton. George Henry Bore, surgeon, Stan way, June 20, at half-past twelve, and July 12, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Bell, official assignee,, Coleman- street buildings; Bull, Ely-place; Abell, Colchester. Thomas Sloper, auctioneer, Linardsouse, June 19, at one, and July 24, at twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Edwards, official assignee, Old Jewry; Buchanan, Ba singhall-street. Thomas Allen, Birmingham and Sheffield warehouse man, Great Suffolk-street, Southwark, June 22, at one, and July 24, at eleven, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Groom, official assignee, Abehurch-lane; Wellborue, Tooloy-street. William Prosser Martin, wine and spirit merchant, Bath, June 26, and July 24, at eleven, at the Bristol District Court. Miller, official assignee, Bristol; White, Eyre and White, Bedford-row; Bevan, Bristol. William Soden, ship broker, Gloucester, June 26, and July 24, at twelve, at the Bristol District Court. Hut ton, official assignee, Bristol ; Lovegrove, Gloucester; Abbot, Bristol. Walter Robert Sutton, chemist, Clifton, June 26th and July 24, at eleven, at the Bristol District Court. Acraman, official assignee, Bristol; Boykett, Chancery lane; Ayre, jun., Bristol. William Maddox, tailor, Liverpool, June 26, and July 16, at eleven, at the Liverpool District Court. Cazenove, official assignee, Liverpool; Coruthwaite and Co ' 4 Jewry-chambers; Pemberton, Liverpool. William Henry S, ter, ship broker, Liverpool, June 29, and July 20, at el*ven, at the Liverpool District Court. Bird, official assignee, Liverpool ; Mowrilyan an , t t %0. , Gray's-inn; Neale, Liverpool. Henry Her shall, chief constable, Kendal, June 21, at twelve, ar.d July 24, at one, at the Newcastle-upon.. Tyne District Court. Baker. official assignee, New castle upon-Tyne; T. and E, Harrison, Kendal; Hoyle, Newcastle-upon-Tyne. MARKET INTELLIGENCE. (From the London .New Price Current, June 12.) SUGAR.—To day importers of West India Sugar were disposed to realize, and submitted to a reduction on the rates of Friday of 6d per cwt, still grocers as well as re finers operated with caution. The purchases amounted to 440 hhds, &c., including at public sale 145 hhds 9 tierces Barbadoes, which went, middling to good yellow 38s 6d to 40s, fine 403 6d to 423, superior(433 6d ; 145 hhds Trinidad were taken in tit 37s to 38s for low and middling yellow, but 14 hhds 50 tierces and 180 barrels Demerara chrystalised were sold, brown 36s to 375, yel low 39i to 45s 6cl, and white 47s 6d to 495. REFINED.—To- day refined sugar was operated in with caution by home dealers, and lower rates were accepted, brown lumps selling at 51s 6d to 525, and standard lumps 425 6d per cwt. Bonded Crushed Sugar is held for 29s 6d to 30; 6,1, and the demand is dull. MAIIRITIUS.—This afternoon-five parcels of Mauritius Sugar, amounting to 13,967 bags, were submitted to public sale; importers were disposed to sell, and sub mitting to a reduction on Friday's rates of 6d per cwt, caused the whole to find purchasers—fine and good yel low went at 393 to 425, middling 38s to 38s 6d, low 37s to 37s 6d, ordinary to fine grey 37s to 39., brown 32s to 375, grainy 393 6d to 435, and white 47s 6d to 48s per cwt. EAST INDIA.—This afternoon the public sales of Ben gal Sugar comprised 5,484 bags. There was little dis position shown to operate, and a small part only sold ; grainy kinds at a decline of 6d to is per cwt, and other sorts went rather cheaper. MOLASSES.—FuII rates are asked for West India, but the demand has become limited, and the purchases are 200 puns, chiefly fine Antigua, at 22s per cwt. Bengal Treacle is wanted at 16s 64 to 17s 6d per cwt, and the market is firm. FOREIGN.—To-day there was no public sale of Foreign Sugar, and by private treaty little business was con cluded, whilst sellers are willing to accept rather lower rates. COFFEE.—This afternoon there was an active demand for Native Ceylon Coffee, and prices advanced 6d to ls. per cwt; at public sale 3,000 bags were all sold et 33s to 34s for good and real good ordinary, gild at 26s to 32s 6d for damaged; a part was taken by exporters. Of Plantation 30 casks and 40 bags were offered and partly sold, middling at 51s 6d, fine fine ordinary 41s 6d to 423, good ordinary 34;, whilst fine Mountain was taken in at 80s per cwt. Privately a large business has been transacted in Foreign Coffee at stiffer rates. COCOA.—There has been little desire to make pur chas a in West India, and as the supply is larger, prices have a downward tendency for all sorts; at public sale, 1 150 pkgs have been offered, but a part only sold, Trinidad red at 43s to 475. grey 42s to 445, St. Lucia 36s to 40i, and Grenada 38; to 393. The market for Foreign has a dull aspect, and 27; Gi to 29s is the value. TEA.—Prices have not improved for Congou; there has been a good business concluded during the last few d ys. On the part of holders there is also firmness, and 81 to Si is the value of ord and good common sound. In Green the sales made have been upon a more ex tended scale on former rates, and holders are less inclined to sell. The medium sort; met with the most attention. Fine Scented Orange Pekoe and Caper have been dealt in with more readiness at late rates. RICE.—Tc-day there was no public sale of East India Rice, but by private treaty operations were upon a more ex*ended scale; white Bengal at from 3s 6d to 10s 6d, and cargo 7s 6d to Bs. Saco.—To-day there was an improved demand for this article. At suction 350 chests sold at full rates, and r.altsed 19s 6d to 21s 6tl for good and fine small pearl. _ _ _ SPICES.—In Black Pepper, the business concluded by private treaty is larger, and at auction 500 bags Mil lar realized 314 to 3i1.1 for good heavy, and damaged 3/d; 200 bags Alleppy were only in part disposed of at 214 to 240 for middling and good greyish sound. White is watad at 51 to 93, pod Pepper is more in demand at 40s to Os per cwt. For Ginger the demand is good, and prices incline upwards, whilst the supply does not extend. At auction 150 packages of Jam -La realis,d 3151 to 81 17s. Tne value of shipping s ,rt. of Etst India is 25s ro 295, and home trade kind 35s tt 905 per cwt. Nutmeg,, brown 2i 6.1 to 3s, and better sort 3s 21 to 3s . 93. Mace 2s to 2s 4d, and superior 2s 64 to 25 Bd. Cloves, Bencolen at is 3d to Is Bd, Amboyna lid to 8a 21, Bourbon avd Z inzibar 711 to Bd. Cinnamon has been dealt in with freedom; first sort at 3s 9d to 4s 43, second 2s 101 to 3s 83, and thirds Is ed to 2s 101 per lb. , Cass'a Ligeea 90s to 1003 per cwt. Pimento, a public sale of 1,200 bags went at fu:l rates. the whole sexing from 3i 1 t 3,1,1 for middling and good middling. COCEINEAL—The sales made have been mited for all purposes, although there are sellers upon rather to tier terms, and the supply is not smaller. Ot 74 bags offered at public sale a part only sold—Honduras black 31101 to 4s. 83, Mexican 3s 10d to 3s lid, Silvers 3s 13 to 3a 3d. Black Honduras is the most difficult of sale, and the decline has been from 23 to 31 per lb. East India Rum holders require is 2id to Is 3d proof Leeward Island is 31d to Is 4d proof. Dsmerara is 10:1 to 2s 2d for 28 to 40 per cent over proor. Fine Jamaica is wanted. The value of 19 to 20 per cent over proof is from 2s to 2s 3.1; 30 to 36 over, 2s 5d to 3s 31; and superior, 35 4d to 4s per gallon. Havannah is dull of sa'e at Is 24 proof. For Brandy the home demand continues active. We quote Coenac hest brands of the viotage of 1845 at 5s 811 to 5s 103; ditto 1846,5 s 4dtoss 6d; ditto 1847, 4s sdto4s 7d; 18-18 ditto 3s 73 to 3s 9(1, inferior brands 2s 3d to 3s 63, and Bordeaux 2s to 2,2 d. Geneva has been dealt in with more freedom; exportation sort at is 94 to is 103, and fine for duty at 2s 3d to 35 3d. There is a more active demand tor British made Spirit at former rates, and the market has a firm aspect. TALLOW.—onIy a limited business has been con cluded in Russian on the spot since our last report, and on the part of holders less firmness is apparent. There are sellers of fine P. Y. Candle at 38s 3d to 38s 6d. For delivery in last three months of the year few buyers are to be met with, and sales can be made at 395. Home melted met with a geed sale, but at the moderate rates of 37s to 374 6d nett cash, and the supply does not fall off. Of other sorts the quantity on offer is still huge, and rather lower rates have been accepted, as the demand is not so good. At auction 244 casks of New South Wales were for the most part sold at 333 to 37s lor low to fine; 786 pkgs of South American 33s to 38s; 145 pkgs Cape 37a to 39s 6d, a id 10 cisks of Oporto 36,3 d to 37s per cwt. Rough Fat is offered at 2s Id per s:one. OlLS.—fbere are sellers of Linseed Oil at a further reduction. The value on the spot is 25s to 25s 33, and for delivery 25s 6d per cwt. Rapeseed Oil 37s to 37s 6d for pale, and 363 61 for brown. Palm 30s to 36s 6d rer cwt. for fine. Cocos Nut is dull in the market. At auction 500 packages were taken in at 34s to 36s per cwt, and these are lower rates. Olive finds a more active de vatted. Gallipoli is held for 411 to 41/ los, other sorts 391 to 401 10a r er tun. /for Cod a fair demand has been expe rt, need at 2615 s to 26/ 103. Seal—pale is to be obtained at 30/,straw and tinged 281 to 291105, yellow and brown 251 to 27/ 10s. For Southern lower rates have been again dc e tuns ept wereandall t sold d e is at 2 % 1 largerto27l i o sfor supply, lowA t auctionto fine qlu9ao. lity. Thera are ready sellers of Sperm, and at auction 65 tuns were only in part sold at 701 to 721 for good to fine, and at 65/ for inferior. Lard Oil is quoted at 363 to 40s, and Ground Nut at 27s to 28s per cwt. fl PERIA.L PARLIAMENT. (THIS EVENING.) HOUSE OF LORDS. The Eirl of EGLINTON presented a petition from the Presbytery of Dunbar against the Parliamentary Oaths bill. The Bishop of OXFORD presented several petition pra3ing for the adoption of measures for the suppressicn of the slave trade. Lord STANLEY presented a petition from the ship owners of Quebec: against the repeal of the navigation laws. Lord CAMPBELL presented a petition from an old soldier named Parker complaining that he was entitled to a pension of Is. a d a y, w h e r ea s h had been reduced to a pension of 7id. a day. FRENCH EXPEDITION TO ROME. Lord BEAUMONT rose to ask the Government a question with respect to the expedition of the French against Rome. The French President, in his message, had said that the foreign policy of France had been sup ported by the English Government; and he thought, there fore, he was justified in asking the Government whether they had been concerned in any way in approving of the expedition ? The intentions professed by the French had been most contradictory. They had said it was for the protection of the Roman territories, and to prevent the union of foreign powers. Then they said it had been to restore the fugitive Pontiff. Their first act had been to attack Rome, which had been followed by the incursion of an Austrian force, and now Rome bad been again attacked, and was now deluged with blood, and so far from restoring the Pontiff, they had declared that Rome bad an undoubted right to choose her own Government. To this the Triumvirate replied, that R.,me had already chosen her Government. Through out the straightforward conduct of the Roman Triumvirate contrasted most favourably with that of the French, for the negotiations of M. d Lesseps were in direct contra diction with the conduct and assertions of General Oudi not. A Congress of the Catholic Powers had been held at Gaeta, at which a joint intervention had be, n agreed upon. The French, however, deceived Austria and Naples, and entered alone. The King of Naples invaded the Roman territory, but from not finding himself supported by the French, and having no intention of fighting a battle alone, according to his usual plan took to rapid flight. Still the Romans could not understand this sort of brotherly protection which the French offered them, and wnich had not been paralleled since Cain and Abel. The consequence had been that Bologna had been taken by the Austrians. Ancona was at this moment bombarded by them, and the French were at Rome. France had declared that she would guarantee lay government to Rome if the Pontiff were restored, and Austria had acknowledged the necessity of it; but now came out allocutions from the Pope, declaring that he never had and never would submit to lay government, so that it appeared that all that had been done by the Powers at Gaeta had been to deceive the Pope and to deceive each other. The Earl of DEVON rose to order, and put it to the House if it was necessary that the Noble Lord should enter into the details. Izird BEAUMONT would confine himself to the question, whether any communication had taken place from the French Government on the subject of the ex pedition since it landed at Civita Vecchia, whether any advices had Leen given by the Government to France on the subject, or whether Government cou'd explain the motives or objects of the French Govern ment in that expedition? The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said that this Go vernment had taken no part in the expedition. Before it had sailed the Government was informed that such an expedition would sail to Civita Vecchia for the purpose of restoring tranquillity to Rome. To that the Govern ment did not oLject, but it offered no advice, and had kep: comp!ettly aloof ; and so it continued to remain. This country had no right to interfere ; at the same time it had not beheld with indiffer ence the expulsion of the Sovereign Pontiff, but bad expressed a wish for the restitution of the Pon tiff, by means of negotiation, at the same time giving a safeguard for the liberties of the people. He believed that expedition had been undertaken by France, on its own responsibility, without consulting with the other Powers. The Earl of ABERDEEN said that if the written communication from France were communicated to the House, it would perhaps throw some light on this subject, had no other communication taken, place since. fie would scarcely believe, con s id er i ng the entente cordiale that was said to exist between the two Governments, that no further communication had taken place from France, expllnatory of the intentions of France in dis patching that expedition. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said, that if he had had notice of the question he should have been prepared to answer it more tully. Lord BROUGHAM considered that his Noble Friend could never have considered that an expedition to restore order was to stop at Civitta Vtcchia. A NOBLE LORD—ABCOM Lord BROUGHAM—Arconawas a perfectly different case. In allusion to the French President's Message, he would say, whoever drew it up, that it was a model of judicious explanation, and of equally judicious conceal ment.—(Hear, hear,) He was delighted in that Mes3age to see the pas►stge relating to England; and he concluded from that that England had approved of all that France bad done, but it appeared from these explanations that that meaning could not be attached to that passage. The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH wished to know whether the communication regarding the sailing of the expedition was simply acknowedged, or whether it was stated that her Majesty's Government did not object to the departure of the expedition. [LEFT SPEAKING.] HOUSE OF COMMONS. The SPZAKER took the Chair at Four o'clock.: The report on the Chester and Holyhead Railway (Increase of Capital, with Powers to the London and North-Western Railway to subscribe thereto) Bill was considered and agreed to. THIRD READING. The Congleton Inclosure Act Amendment Bill was read a third time and passed. DUBLIN IMPROVEMENT (No. 2) BILL. On the question for the second reading of this Bill, Mr. REYNOLDS said it was not his intention to op pose the Bill, though it was not what he and his consti tuents in the corporation of Dublin could desire. There were three Bills before the House connected with Dub lin which it was proposed should be withdrawn if the whole were not agreed to, and he therefore hoped the House would have an early opportunity afforded it for expressing an opinion on there. The Bill was then read a second time. PETITIONS. Colonel TYNTE prefenteda petition from Bridport in favour of the Bankruptcy Amendment Act. Mr. G. THOMPSON presented several petitions from various metropolitan parishes in favour of Mr. Cobden's motion for international arbitration. Similar petitions were presented by Sir W. Clay, from the Tower Hamlets; Mr. Attly, Mr. E. Ellis, .Mr. Fitz roy, Mr. 0. Ricardo, Mr. Nluntz (from Birmingham), Mr. Schob-field, Mr. Moody, Lord Marcus Hill, Mr. Kershaw, Lord H. Vane, Mr. Roebuck, Mr. Thoruely, Mr. Bright, Mr. Brotherton, Mr. H. Berkeley, Mr. E. Dension, Mr. o.,borne, Mr. Mackinnon, Lord Nugent, ' and Mr. Clay. Mr. CLAY presented a petition from Hull praying for the ab.dition of light does. Sir W. CODRINGTON presented a petition from the county of Gloucester, complaining of agricultural distress, and praying for protection. Mr. Alderman SIDNEY presented a 'petition from solicitors and ()the:* of Stafford, praying for the repeal of the certificate duty. Lord BARNARD presented a petition.from Bandon, in the county of Cork, praying the House to take steps to mitigate the prevailing distress in Ireland. Mr. BRIGHT presented a petition,-praying for the suppression of beer houses. Air. H. BERKELEY presented a petition praying for the repeal of the duty on paper and the penny sta©p on newsp3per3. FULLER presented a petition from Essex pray ing that stock in trade may be exempt from poor rates. Mr. BRIG II presented a petition from Salop in favour of an exten,ion of the rutfrage. THE CHARTER. Mr. F. O'CONNOR ponponed his motion with re spect to the CnArter until the 31 of July. NEW HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT. - Mr. PACKE gave notice that on the2lstjune he sheuld move that an humble address be presented to her Majesty, praying that she might be pleased to give or ders fo:. the completio❑ of the New House of Commons by next session of Parliament. REDUCTION OF OFFICIAL SALARIES. Mr. HUME gave notice that he should renew his mo tion with respect to the propriety of reducing the salaries of ull newly-apdoint,d officers when the first Tote of Supply to the Ordnance cline on. S PATE OF THE NATION. Mr. DISRAELI—I beg to give notice that, on this day fortnight, I shall move that this House do resolve Itself into a Committee of the whole House, to take into consideration the state of the nation.—(A laugh, and cries of " Hear, hear.") EXTENSION OF THE SUFFRAGE. Sir DE LACY EVANS gave notice that on an early day he should move that the suffrage be extended to all tax-payers. • TIIE FRENCH EXPEDITION TO ROME. Mr. HUME said, in answer to a question he put to her Majesty's Government the other day, he was informed that a letter had been addressed to the Marquis of Nor wanby in answer to a communication from him, pointing out the course of policy the British Government were to observe in regard to the proceedings of France against Rome. He begged to ask, whether Lb.:re would be any objection to lay that communication on the table of the House ? Lord PALMERSTON said, a communication respect ing the expedition to Civita Vecchia was made to the British Government through the Marquis of Normanby, and an answer given through the same medium, and, therefore, he had no communication to lay before the House. THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING, SHORT-HAND WRITERS. Sir CHARLES DOUGLAS presented a petition signed by certain short-hand writers, pm) ing that in the event of the House authorizing an official record of its de - bates to be published, the claims of the petitioners should be taken into consideration, and gave notice that on Thursday he should move that the petition be printed with the votes. OCCUPATION OF CENTRAL ITALY. Mr. M. MILNES requested to know from the Secre tary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he was able to inform the House as to the terms of the occupation of Central Italy by the troops of the Emperor of Austria. Lord PALMERSTON add the Austrian Ambas sador some time ago made a communication to her Majesty's Government, intimatinz the opinion that, in virtuo of the existing treaties, the Austrian Government, having a reversionary interest in the Grand Duchy of Tuscany, stood in a situitiou of right to interfere in the affairs of Tuscany. JONES.Se Sec retary l for the Mr. F. O'CO U N it li . 07,NaEskSeTd te Home Department whether ho had with e i or six weeks received any communication fromaZtr five Jones, complaining of the visiting magistrates hav ing refused to forward his petition to thi s In— ouse, complaining of his ill-treatment in prison. Sir G. GREY said he had received several commu nications from Mr. E. Jones, but none recently, and all those communications were referred to the visiting Mr. F. O'CONNOR said ho would repeat the ques• Lion on Thursday. THE HUDSON BAY COMPANY. Mr. CHRIS FY asked her Majesty's Government, if any negotiations had taken place or are now pending relative to the claims of the Ltudson's Bay Company to compensation arising out of any treaties between this country and the United St4tts; the nature and amount of such claims, and whether any correspondence has passed either between her Majesty's Government and the Hudson's Bay Company or with the Government of the United States on this subject. Lord PALMERSTON replied that in the course of last year the Hudson Bay Company applii d to the Go verntnent to give its continuance to the negotiations tben about to be opened with the United States with respect to Hudson's Bay. These negotiations were at present going on, and he was not in a position to state their ex act nature, THE IRISH; CONFEDERATION—PROCLAMA TION OF MR. SMITH O'BRIEN. Sir JOHN TYRRELL said he intended to move for the following return:--" Copies of a proclamation in the hands of head-constable J. Tompson, and filed in the police-office in the town of Kenmare (it is a counter proclamation to that of his Excellency the Lord-Lieute nant of Ireland), by order of the Council of the Irish Confederation, dated 3d May, 1848, and signed W. Smith O'Brien, chairman. Of the police reports severally within the last three 3 ears, with reference to altar denunciations in Kenmare; the police reports of the 18th of March, 1848. April 17th, 1848, April 24th, 1848, and May 19. h, 1848; and, of any correspondence with the Government in Ireland, respecting such altar denunciations, from the district of Kenmare." Now he understood that it was the intention of the Hon. Baronet the Secretary for Ireland to refuse the return; he wished to know if he conceived that the ends of justice would be thereby answered? Sir WM. SOMERVILLE was understood to say that he did not conceive that public justice would be answered by the production of those documents at the present moment. ARCTIC EXPEDITION—SIR JOHN FRANKLIN. Lord PALMERSTON laid on the table documents in reference to this expedition. Sir R. 11. INGLIS wished to make a few observations. It was now four years ago since 138 of as gallant men as ever went forth on an expedition had sailed for the purpose of exploring the North-West Passage. No in telligence had been received with respect to them. Lady Fraeklin, on behalf of herself and child, had addressed a beautiful letter to the President of the United States— a letter which, in beauty of language and sentiment, could not be excelled ,by any which man or woman could address to another and the result was that the Government of the United States had, in the most creditable manner, agreed to send out two expeditions. And Rusisa had also sent ships to the eastern coast of Asia in search of the ad venturers. So also had this country. And this had been done by other countries, not for their personal ag grandisement, but on the purest grounds of humanity. —(Cheers.) Such acts would tend more than anything to promote a good feeling between the nations. Lord PALMERSTON fully coincided in the remarks of the Bight Hon. Baronet. It was most gra tifying to find other nations sending out ships after these enterprising navigators.—Cheers.) Mr. DISRAELI was glad that the sympathy of this House would reach the United States, since the exalted conduct of the President of that Government confederacy was above all praise. Such conduct was in deed worthy .of the sacred cause in which they had en gaged. Such incidents would, in his opinion, and he was sure such would be the opinion of the House and the country, do more than arbitration schemes to pro mote that fraternal feeling among the nations which they must all desire to see. INTERNATIONAL ARBITRATION. Mr. COBDEN then rose to move that an humble ad dress be presented to her Majesty, praying she will be graciously pleased to direct her principal Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs to enter into communication with Foreign Powers, inviting them to concur in treaties binding the respective parties, in the event of any future misunderstanding which cannot be arranged by amicable negotiation, to refer the matter in dis pute to the decision of arbitrators. He said he did not remember that he had ever before had an opportunity of addressing the House when he felt me re desirous for the few minutes he should occupy their a - tendon of having the indulgence of Hon. Members, be cause he represented a numerous body both within and out of the House who took a deep interest in this question. —(Hear, hear.) He deeply regretted that there should have been any misapprehension in the House on the sub ject of this motion, but he thought the remark the Hon. Gentleman the Member for Buckingham had just made was a proof that some misapprehension did exist, or he would not have ventured to sneer at a motion before he had heard it made.—(Hear, hear.) The Hon. Gentleman must have conceived that there was some thing remarkably preposterous about the motion—that it was that peculiar kind of matter which ought to be condemned betore it was heard or he never would have indulged in a sneer. He had often heard the Hon. Gentleman indulge in ex pane facts, seeing but never till now bad he ventured upon receiving in an ticipation, uther.lf there u ving wus t a h i a i t uc h u e us w iv a n s u a u s ic l u it i tle ated th t e u o s n t e ir as up t t h h e e milk of human kindness in their breasts it was that which had just past, and it was something - strange that in the same breath that he spoke of Lady Franklyn's letter the Hon. Member indulged in a sneer at the expense of a motion he had yet to hear.—(Hear.) With the Hon. Baronet the Member for the University he accepted the act of America and Russia as a proof that we live in altered times, for at no former pe riod in the history of the world was there an instance of a foreign Government sending out, to seek at great expense, adventures unconnected with their own country.—(Rear, hear.) Now, he stood there on that classes, occasion both a s t ofthem of m he humble representative importance sentativ eof in the distinct community. In first place, who h e repud u represented teu r res t that rg influential body of the Christians to war in any case, and in the second that class of the Christians consisting of a large portion of the middl e arid working classes of this country who desired that they s hould take some pre cau ti ons and if possible to obtain some guarantee against the necessity for war.—(Hear.) Now it was not necessary for any one in the House who acceded to the motion that he should be of opinion that we ate not justified as Chriatiads, under any circumstances, of resorting to war in self-defence. It was only necessary that they should agree that war was an great calamity which it was desirable if possible to avoid, —(Hear, hear.) What was it that he proposed? Ile assumed that every one in the House would only sane tion war in cases where it was imperatively de mantled. His object was that they should simply and solely resort to that male in communities which individuals resorted to in private life. He only wanted them to carry out in another instance that principle which they recognize in a thousand other cases—viz, that the intercourse of individuals was nothing but the intercourse of individuals in the agregate. He wanted to know why any disagreement between this country and France or America, which could not be settled by mutual representation, should not be referred to the decision of an arbitration. He did not mean necessarily crowned heads or neutral states, though he could mention many examples where a reference to such 'forms had proved eminently successful. There were cases in which disputes between France and the United States had been referred to tngland, between England and the United States to France, between the United States and Mexico to Prussia, between the United States and England to the Netherlands. And these had all been eminently successful, or if one had tailed in its immediate object, there was no instance of such a re ference being followed by war.—(Hear, hear.) But he did not confine himself to neutral powers, inasmuch as one might chance to prefer a republic, and another a monarchy. There were many instances in which was ted b th y e other plan disputes had been ref. rr e d to commissioners, and that, countries, whichtrieho for wished to purpose o r I, ( s is e e e adopted—the men should b e appointed by this country to meet o m n i f , e n s saepdp,oi of inquiring into the matter in dispute, and, in the event of their not agreeing, to have the power of calling in an arbitration. He saw no essential difference between that plan and the plan which was now resorted to in private lite; his views were sometimes considered Utopian and visionary, but at other times so practical and material that it was said there was not a bit of sentiment about him—(Great laughter)—but in the present instance there could be no doubt about the practical nature of his plan, for in 1794, in 1814, and again in 1818 the country had been a party to the appointment of commissioners to settle differences with America. He mentioned those cases to show that this plan was no in vention, but had been already carried out with success, and only wanted to be carried out a little further to anticipate our quarries with other countries.—(Hear.) What was the use of any treaty? What was the use of the Foreign-office or the Secretary for Foreign Affairs? They might as well shut up the one and cashier the other.—(Hear, hear, and laughter.) He, therefore, thought if any provision was made by which they could avoid hostile collision with other coun tries, that provision would be as eagerly sought after by one party to the quarrel, as by the other. Wars urose out of accidental collisions, and trea ties were really as well observed by powerful states against weak states, as by weak states against powerful. Therefore, he saw no difficulty specially applying to treaties of that kind greater than with any other treaties.— (Hear, hear) Bu there would be an advantage in having a treaty which bound another country if that country did not afterwards fulfil its treaty. That country would then enter into war with the brand of infamy stamped upon its banners.—(Hear, hear.) He anticipated another objection. It was said, were the great interests of England to be en trusted to Commissioners such as those he proposed? That was upon the assumption that our quarrels in volved the whole existence of the empire, quarrels on the most minute and ridiculous customs. A peace friend of his, the other day, told him that he was standing re cently by a penny peep-show of the battle of Waterloo, when a little boy, who was peeping into it, asked the old man who owned the show what was the cause of the battle of Waterloo. The old man scratched his head and said, upou his word, he could not tell.—(A. laugh.) So it appeared that we could not tell what were the causes of half our w a rs.—(Oh, oh.) At all events lie might quote the remark of the Noble Lord on the Treasury Bench the other night, that the last two wars were unnecessary—(Hear, hear) —and in that re mark he (Mr. Cobden) agreed. But could Com missioners be intrusted with settling disputes be tween nations ? Already they had intrusted those matters to individuals. Treaties of peace made after wars were generally entrusted to individuals to carry them out. Lord Castlereagh, when he was called to account in the House of Commons for the share he took in the treaty of Vienna, distinctly told the House that he took upon himself the reapon-ibility of that Congress, and of the interests of the honour of England were sacrificed he alone was responsible. And in the case of Lord Ashburton, when he went to nego tiate the Maine boundary question, had power to bind this country to anything he set his hand to in America. All he :(Mr. Cobden) wanted was that those matters should be done before and not after they entered into war, and thai it should be to avert war rather than make up differences after they had ex hausted themselves in conflicts.—(Hear, haar.) From 1836 down to the last year they had increased their armed force 60,000 men, and they had increased their expenditure 60 or 70 per cent. That was no proof of any increased duration of peace; the Go vernment found that was an increased security against war; he (MrCobden)thought it argued quite the contrary. What were their preparations or war? They had 170 barrels of gunpowder in store. Besides that they had JUNE 12, 1849. 75 000 000 of ball cartridges, made up ready fur use; besides the p,wder in barrels. (Hear, he-.r, and loud laughter.) Yes, but the people would not laugh when they read what he wAs stating. Tne people would not join county Member. in their laugh.—(Hear, hear.) Then they had 50,000 pieces of cannon in store, 5,000000 of gun cartridges, and 1,200,000 sand bags ready for fortifications. They had as much powder in store as would have served for three years during the war with France, or fifteen years in the time of peace, to say nothing of the 50,000,000 of ball cartridges Did it look, therefore, as if the Government had made great way in the preparations for peace ?—(Hear, hear.) During the last four or five years they had spent upon an average twice as much in forti fications, steam basins, docks, barracks, and in the means of aggressive and defensive warfare as in any pe riod since the peace. Indeed Mr. Hume had informed him that the cost had been greater during these four or five years than during any of the previous years. They had doubled the ordnance expenses since 1836. Then there was as much invested in the steam navy of the Go vernment as they had in the whole of the merchant steamers He repeat( d this fact now, and challenged any one to contravene it. He stated so last year, when the state ment was treated with credulity by the Chancellor of the Exchequer and the House, bat he had gone into the figures, and it was correct, and ho could prove it. And more money ;lad been invested in repairing ships and proaiding basins for them, than was invested for the same purposes in mercantile docks. What was the fact ? why, that civilization instead of b• fug available for the requirements • peace, was con stantly made available for the purposes of war, thus making science contribute to the barbarism of the age in which they lived. He challenged any one, by more than mere declamation, to deny that this was so. Why, they spent more in one year now, during the time of peace than in seven years during the war. He was happy to co-operate with the " Peace Confederates," though, in that House, he did not take his stand on the high ground it did; and he was ready to share in any calumny or derision which might be cast upon them. He had sat on Committees on the public estimates, but he, and those who sat with him, were of opinion that there was no logical end of their proceedings—they saw no result unless they could opproach foreign countries with the hand of peace! Because increased exenditure would lead to increased taxation, and taxation, he be lieved, had reached its limits. It might be said that his plan would not meet all cases; but ho thought it would, and a great deal bet ter than the plan now resort, d to. He thought, at all events, that the substitution of arbitration was a more rational plan than a resort to the sword. He took his stand upon past experienc?, and he would prove that in four out of every five cases which had occurred during the last twenty years. Arbitration would better have disposed of them than war. Take the case of 1837, when a dispute arose Russia relative to the confiscation of a ship, Vixen, in the Black Spa. Every body knew that that ship was sent out by particuhr parties for the purpose of embroiling this country with Prussia, and he appealed to the Noble Lord the Member for Tiverton, who was Fo reign Minister at the time, whether a treaty of arbitration with Prussia would not have saved him froth party. at ticks, and prevented a good deal of unpleasantness and apprehension in this country. Take the next case of the American boundary question, which caused much apprehension on both sides of the Atlantic, would it not have been better to have referred this matter to an arbi trA ion of geographers than have allowed it to cause so much excitement. Then there was the case of Al'Le d, wit:. was imprisoned in the state of New York for having avowed that he took part in the burning of the Carolina. Suppose that man had been executed, the consequence would have been that what was called the honour of the country would have had to be vindicated. An HON. ME l lBER—Certainly. Mr. COBDEN—Certainly said an Honourable Memb r. One man would have lost his lif and straightway they would have plunged into a war which might have sacrificed tens of thousand and hunrired of thousand lives thi ought it could restore deal man. Now how much better it would have been had ar etration been resorted to iu that case. True, it cculd not have restored the lite of the man, but it could have insured some provision for his widow and childrer. He came now to the case of Otaheite. (LEFT SPEAKING.) CLERK EN `YELL.-('PHIS DAY.) MANSLAUGHTER. --Edward Hammond was placed at the bar, upon a remand, charged with the mandaughter of a man named Dryton. The particulars of this case have already appeared in The Sun a few days ago.—lle was committed for trial. James Brown and Philip Lee were charged with ill using a boy of the name of Edward Yandall. The complainant, with some more boys, wero at play on the Maiden-lane bridge yesterday afternoon, when the prisoners came up and made a disturbance. Lee t.ok up a brick and threw at Yandall, which struck him to the ground insensible. Several witnesses came forward and proved the pri soners threw stones at them. The prisoners, who had nothing to say to the charge, were ordered by the Magistrate to find bail. A correspondent informs the Jewish Chronicle that Baron Rothschild, who was sitting under the Speaker's gallery at Mr. J. O'Connell's Parliamentary " turn- out," declined to withdraw. References were made, and among others to Sir R. Peel. The Baron remained as a matter of right. CLYDE, JUNE B.—Wind W.—Arrd. Elizabeth and Margaret, Dathie, Newfoundland. Sld. Mary Morris, New York. 9th, Borneo, Singapore. NEWPORT, JUNE 1 I.—Vind N.E.—Arrd. Sarah Ann, Sktat-ld. Liverpool; Dale Park, Tilby, ditto; both for Boston, United States. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. [HOUSE OF LORDS, June 11. VENTILATION IN MINES. The Earl of ST. GERMANS presented a petition from Mr. Goldsworthy Gurney, praying for the adoption of more effectual measures for the ventilation of, and for the prevention of explosion, in coal mines. He stated that facts showed that this was a petition entitled to the most serious consideration of their Lordships. There was no occasion for him to dwell on the interest and importance of this subject, for their Lordships knew well now essential it was to the wealth and to the comfort of the inhabitants of this country thatcoal should be raised withthe least possible waste and cost. The accidents which happened so fr. quently in our coal mines arose from the presence of obnoxious gases, and the question for con sidtration was as to the best mode of remedying them. In the year 1847 there were 623 persons killed and 196 severely wounded by explosions in coal mines, whilst, in 1848, there were 446 persons killed and 158 disabled tor life. In 1835 a Committee had been appointed by the House of Commons to examine into the extent and to investigate into the causes of these accidents in coal mines, and also to devise and consider the remedies best calculated to secure the lives of the per sons employed in them. That Committee collected a large body of in ormatiou from scientific and practical men, hut did not recommend any sufficient remedial measure. Mr. Gurney gave evidence before that committee, and xplained his plan for the perfect ventilation of mines. The Committee expressed a hope that some measure of that kind would be adopted, whereby the object for which they were assembled would be accomplished. No practical measure followed the sittings of that Committee, and matters remained in the same state until a fearful explosion took place in the neighbourhood of South Shields. Then a meeting was held in that town, and a local committee was appointed, consisting of scientific and practical men resid:ng in the neighbourhood of that town. It sat at different times for a period of three 3 ears, considering and discussing various measures for the prevention and remedy of such disasters. He then held in his hand their report, and a more valuable document, in his opinion, never was published. nu would not read it to their Lordships, but would merely state that it contained a very graphic descrip• Lion of the scenes of misery which one of these ter• rible catastrophes occasioned.—(Hear.) The members of that committee had taken great pains in examin ing and analyzing the different species of ga ses an d inelescribing the operation of the choke damp, the after damp, and the various other incidents which exposed the miners to greater dangers than any other set of work• men engaged in industrial pursuits. They had also ex amined the different means employed for the protection of the life of the miner, and described the different safety-lamps which were now used in different mines. They showed that the best lamps were insufficient for the purposes for which they were intended, and in cer tain conditions of the 'atmosphere increased rather than diminished the danger. They then proceeded to point out for adoption the plan for the ventilation of mines which Mr. Goldsvecirthy Gurney had described minutely in his evidence before the Committee of the House of Commons in 1835. They had also called on that gen. tlemsn for further explanation; and the conclusion at which the South Shields committee arrived on bear ing the further explanation of his plan for ventilation by high steam-pressure was, that it was sufficient for the purpose for which it vas intended. Notwith standing the recommendation of that committee, nothing was done to carry it into effect till last year, when two eminent scientific men, Sir 11, de la, Beche and Dr. Playful:, were appointed by Government to examine into the accidents in coal mines. They, too, were of opinion that an improved system of ventilation was re quired in the coal mines. In the year 1848 a Mr. Foster, who was connected with the Seaton Delaval Col liery, saw in London some experiments on the high steam-pressure principle, which appeared to him to be applicable for the ventilation of mines and buildings He put himself immediately into communication with Mr. Goldsworthy Gurney, and in consequence estab lished his machinery in the Seaton Delaval Colliery. He held in his hand a letter to the editc,r of a Gateshead paper, written by this Mr. Foster, who happened to be the viewer of the Seaton Delaval Colliery, and in that letter he made the plan of Mr. Gurney quite intelli gible, and described it as perfectly successful. At that time he stated that there was an increase of fifty per cent. in the ventilating power as compared with the old power, and since that pollee: that increase had been raised to a hundred per cent. An incidental ad vantage, not contemplated by the inventor, had ulso been gained by this machinery. A colliery in the neighbour hood of Manchester was on fire. Formerly there was no mode of extinguishing it except by pumping in water in a considerable quantity and by pumping it out again afterwards —an operation of some labour and con siderable expense. Mr. Darlington, the proprietor of that colliery, having heard of Mr. Goldsworthy Gur ney's experiments, applied to him in writing to come down and extinguish that fire. Mr. Gurney, in reply, told him that he had no doubt that carbonic acid gas could be driven through the mine so as to extinguish the fire. Mr. Darlington acted upon the opinion of Mr. U. Gurney and had since acquainted the public that the fire was extinguished at a cost of fewer pence than there would have been pounds lin•rl the old system ot pumping in and of pureeing out been adopted. The fire was extinguished, and Mr. Darlington declared that the mine now was perfectly ventilated. lle would not have troubled their Lordships with any further observa tions had it not been represented that Mr. G. Gurney was visionary enthusiast. He (the Earl of St. Germans) had known that gentleman for years. Ho believed that he was an enthusiast, but denied that he was a visionary one. A more practical man he had never hod the honour of meeting. Mr. G. Gurney was originally a medical man, and it was while he was studying the na ture of the different gases, that he made these discoveries. His Lordship then enumerated the different inventions of Mr. Gurney, all of which, particularly the Bude he eulegi ed as eminently useful. He called upon their Lordships to give their favourable consideration to this petition, and expressed a hope that Government would take Mr. Gurney's plan in hand, for it was disgraceful that these accidents should occur so frequently, when there were adequate means of preventing them. Lord BROUGHAM strenuously supported the prayer of the petition, and as a proof of the necessity of adopt ing Mr. Gurney's plan of ventilation, referred to the re cent accident in the Hepburn Collery, where thirty-three lives had been sacrificed out of thirty-four which were in the mine at the time of the explosion. When their Lordships saw these dreadful calamities happen ing so ireque ntly that 700 or 800 persons were killed and the same number maimed and injured every year, and when they saw that 1,500 persons were more or less damaged every year from the utter impossibility of mak ing the workmen attend to their own safety by the proper use of the safety lamp, they could not want more decisive proof of the necessity that something ought to be done, and to be done immediately. He thought that it would be better to have a Committee of their Lord ships appointed to examine into the whole of this sub ject. If this system of ventilation were a cure for the explosion of fire-damp, he should not like to be the pro prietor of a coal mine criminally proceeded against for the result of such explosion, now that the cure was known. He then favoured the House with a description of the experiments which Mr. Watt, the inventor of the steam-engine, had personally superintended in a coal mine that was on fire, for the purpose of extinguishing the fire by means of a rapid supply of steam to all parts of the mine. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE believed that it had 'now been pretty well ascertained that experiments of a successful nature—he himself had had an opportunity of seeing one of them—had been made by Mr. Gurney on this subject, both in the metropolis and in mines in the country, and up to this time he was not aware of any serious practical objection that had bean discovered to the applicetion of his plan to the removal of an evil which affected the lives of a great body of her Majesty's subjects. Under these circumstances he felt that it would be most desirable that some special publicity should he given to the plan; and that if an inquiry could be made into its merits without involving any unnecessary expense it would be very satisfactory. Lord WHARNCLIFFE said, that the presumption no doubt was that Mr. Gurney's invention was a most valuable one ; hut, whatever might be the actual case with respect to that invention, he must. say it was well worth the while of Government to consider whether the time had not arrived, and whether there was not sufficient ground for their appointing inspectors of coal mines. —(hear, hear.) He cont . , ssed that he had at one time entertained great doubts of the efficacy of such appointments ; but there had ot late been some useful inquiries made at the instance of Government. and some most valuable information laid upon their table with re spect to such an arrangement, which had induced him to change his mind. He found that in Belgium there had, for years past, been Government inspectors, es tablished upon the best possible system, the inspectors being able and competent officers, whose duty it was, not to interpose their authority for the purpose of controlling and directing those who were respon sible for the management of the mines, but to assist them with their advice as to the best possible means of preventing catastrophes. And what had been the re sult? It appeared from the report of Mr Seymour, one of the inspectors under the Act fur preventing young persons working in wines, that since the period of the appointment of inspectors in Belgium—although there had been an increase of 20 per cent. in the amount of coal produced, and an increase of 17 per cent, in the number of persons employed in coal-mines—there had been a decrease of 20 per cent. in the number of fatal accidents.—(Hear, hear.) Now, however effectual the plan of Mr. Gurney might be for its own especial pur pose, viz., in creating a mechanical process for the ven tilation of mines, it was obvious they could not dis pense with the additional security of inspectors in order to a-certain that it was properly applied to all mines. INCUMBERED ESTATES (IRELAND) BILL. The order of the day having been read for the second reading of this Bill, Lord BROUGHAM suggested the expediency of postponing the second reading till a future day. There were three persons in that House who had held the office of Chancellor of England —one was absent, unhappily, from indisposition, and it was in vain, perhaps, to wait till he was able to be present; but there was another absent, who would undoubtedly have been present if he had been aware that this Bill was coming on that night, and he (Lord Brougham) suggested, therefore, that it would be more satisfactory to postpone the second read ing till another day, in order to enable that Noble and Learned Lord to be present. L ,rd CAMPBELL was understood to assent to the proposed postponement. Lord STANLEY remarked that it would save consi derable discussion on the second reading of this Bill if it were previously referred to a Select Committee. Lord CAMPBELL said, that if the principle of the Bill were affirmed by the House, and if it were then thought desirable to have some of the details more care fully considered, he would not object to its being sent to a Select Committee; but, until that House had affirmed the principle of the Bill—until he saw whether that House agreed with the other House, where the Bill had been carried by an overwhelming majority—until he saw whether they agreed with the public, who were under stood to be generally favourable to the Bill, he could not convent to send the Bill to a Select C'ommittee.—(!tear.) Lord MON"FEAGLE wished to know what was the principle of the. Bill?—(Hear, hear.) If it was merely that it was expedient to provide a better, cheaper, and more equitable mode of effecting the transfer of landed property in Ireland, it was unnecessary to take up time in discussing it, for that was a mere truism upon which they all agreed; but if the principle of the Bill was that the machinery therein specified was the best mode of carrying out that object, then it was impossible the House could affirm it without a discussion.—(Hear, hear.) The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said, that the best way of Noble Lords satisfying themselves as to what was the principle of the Bill would be to hear his Noble and Learned Friend develop it, which he had not yet had an opportunity of doing. When he had so done it would be for their Lordships to judge whether they assent to the principle as stated by his Noble and Learned Friend, and give the Bill a second reading, re serving to themselves the power of afterwards saying whether it was expedient to refer the details to a Select Committee.—(Hear, hear.) Lord CAMPBELL then rose to move the second reading of this Bill. He said this was a most important measure, and, he would allow, an arbitrary one, which nothing but the letnentable state of property in Ireland could justify. Unless such a measure was adopted, the consequences must be ruinous to that country. The difficulties might have arisen from the imprudence of the proprietors, but he thought it might be assigned with greater justice to the defects of the law of real property in that country. In England, when a party borrowed money, ho gave a particular portion of his property as the security, and the remainder of his estates were free, and were under his control; but in Ireland the custom was to give the creditor a judgment deed, which ran over the whole of his property, either in possession or in which he might afterwards become entitled. This judg ment would also be assigned to another party, and when that was the case, it was almost inspos possible to know who thel creditor was when the owner wished to pay off the mortgage. They had also in Ireland a system of registration of deeds, which he hoped in time to see established in this coun try. At the same time it was better to have no registry at all than a bad one. The registry they bad in Ireland was a curse to that country, for the information it afforded was altogether defective, only stating that a deed had been entered into between the parties, and was often made the means of great fraud. It was necessary that all the parties interested in the property should re ceive notice; the consequence was, that the estates which were in chancery melted away. Sir Edward Sugden told him that when a cause came on a number of lawyers rose, who appeared for the parties, who had nothing to do but to throw down each a brief, which Sir Edward Sugden compared to the bombardment of a town.—(Laughter.) As soon as a judgment was ob tained in the courts in Ireland a receiver was ap pointed. In fact, the only thriving trade in Ireland was that of the receiver. That being so, it became neces sary to have a tribunal other than the Court of Chan cery, and with that view this Bill had been prepared, of which he had the most sanguine expectations of success. The principle of the Bill was the appointment of three Commission ers b y t h e Crown, who were to act in Ireland with all the powers of the Court of Chan , eery, but without its delays and expense. There was a power given to the incumbrancer or the owner to apply to the Commissioners. It was very important that this power should be given to the owner, as he could not now sell without:the consent of the mortgagees and incum brancers, and it was most important that the mortgagee should have the power to apply, as, from the bad ma nagement of the estates, the tenants often pay no rent, and he had no power to interfere, as the estates were in the hands of receivers, who, also, in their turn, had no power to sell the property. All parties were, in fact, now in a lamentable condition, and it was proposed to give the Commissioners ample power to remedy there evils, by sale of the property or otherwise, as might ap pear most profitable to all the interests concerned, and give a Parliamentary title to purchasers. The great ob ject was to procure purchasers.—(Hear.) They could not be found now, because they did not know upon what they were to lay out their capital; but under this Bill their title would be safe. The Commissioners were to lay down rules, which were not to be acted upon till ap proved of by the Privy Council. There would also in certain cases, where there might be reasonable cause for doubt, be a power of appeal. To give a power of appeal in all cases would render the Bill useless. The objection was that it superseded the Court of Chancery; but it did so only in cases in which it was found that the powers of that tribunal were wholly useless. The Lord Chan cellor of Ireland approved highly of the mcacure. Then, again, it was said that the Bill would be too extensive in its operations; but there were incumbered estates in all parts of that country, so that it would be impossible to limit its operations within geographical boundaries. If the owners of land in one district were to be benefited, the owners of land in all districts should be entitled.to the like advantages. At present owners of land who attempted sales of their property wer6r.tiPosteto run! ous expenses. H e h o p e d, t h ere f ore, t h at their Lord ships would concur with the other House of Parliament in giving their sanction to this measure. He moved that the Bill be read a second time. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE seconded the motley. Lord BROUGHAM said that, in opposing the 13 10- lion, he did not wish to be understood as wholly disse• proving of the Bill, for he highly approved of its principle. But he wished to throw out some suggestions not ce a hasty or ill•considered eature. That was ne cessary, for bad legislation was worse than no legislation,. at all. There were many points in the Bill worthy et recorsPeration. That was the opinion of. the Law Amendment Society, who had given mach attention t° the subject, and, indeed, who originally suggested the principle of the meas ure .—(Elear, hear.) He himself had great difficulties and d ou bt s on t h e su bject. es'e a Noble Friend.(Lord Campbell) admitted with dinary candour that it was a very arbitrary Mea sure ' which it could not be if it was only to give a new direr. tion to a power already in existence. The powers to ' l° given were indeed of a very novel character. Three missioners were to be invested with very large powers , if they were only to be invested with sufficient powers to sell, what need was there of an Act of radial:need for that purpose. Upon payment of the mor t g age ali t incumbrances that could be done now. By the b ; 'struck him that the reason why the Irish Members e. where were so enamoured of this Bill was, that seal"'causer borly had been practising upon them by inducing th e to believe that they could sell their estates by tbis W a i f sure without paying the incumbrances on mortgage!' e d so they were mightily mistaken. His Learned said what they wanted was bidders for these estates' No doubt it was, and. Friend seed pass Noble and L earne d Frie pass this Bill, and y ou w ill h are p l enty o f b i d d ers . it waget" said the want of bidd ers arose f rom t h e de f ect ive Bt 3 e of the law; it was no suc h thi ng; i t was i n consease!cet of agitation and the bad poor law of that countrYe t t", b ", they could not get bidders f or p ro p erty . I t t h e y had ".itt south as tranquil as th e nort h, t h ey wou ld not w",„. bidders; and this was clear from the fact, that unineu; bercd estates ci uld not find bidders.—(Hear.) He kne e d that the judges in Ireland were o pp ose d to t hi s Bill, a, et that was the reason why he should re f er i t t o a SV e ps , Committee. If he found that the I r i s h propr i e t o rs,jo°gc o and lawyers were favourable to it, h e wou ld net g e , any strenuous opposition to the Bill ; b ut h e felt it bit duty as an English lawyer to s t a t e hi s op i n i o n. 1 1 bt was referred to a Select Committee his objections lot s , be removed. His great objection was to collusive ss c i es which might be obviated by limiting the sale to 0 fined number of years' purchase. to The Earl of GLENGALL said h e was oppo se" the principle of the Bill, which was, a complete confisec;; lion and spoliation of property. H e cou ld b e li e ve w Englishmen would vote for a Bill which was founded ° i t s the principles of communism and socialism. He thou on that Louis Blanc, Mons. Considerant, and Mons. Fru° to were the parties who should form the triumvire te ds s carry it into execution. There was nothing but °B y, cations in Ireland. There was no security for proper, er and therefore it was not improved Up to the Y t re , 1782 the Legislature had checked the manufae, r t u d of Ireland, which were nearly destroyed• e "; passed the poor-laws for Ireland, not to' benefi t Irish, but to prevent the poor of that country " er . corning to this country ; and now they P eas secuted the weakest party in Ireland—the, ' 9 4 eo lords, because they were unwilling to 0 " / "Tee money for the relief of the poor of Ireland• ot i state of Ireland w as b roug h t a b out b y the bad legisla,.'ios of this country. Th e system o f j udgments was lat°s!fy• jurious. In co nsequence of the practice of not s at e ls o oa ing judgments which had been entered up for debts 7 5 se the estates of the d e bt ors , t h ere was enormous e! on entailed upon parties. I n one case l ately that hseteded, under his notice there w ere 4 4 0 j u d gments no t satin ye and when the case cam e i nto C ourt from the s ttorn t e io not satistying the jud gments , every one of these ne r ato o had to be made packs to the suit, and the conseqs- 00 was an enormous am oun t of expense attendant,g e so every step respe c tin g th e disposal of property. te ee were evils that r e q u i re d a reme d y. Another e).5:00 that of the receivers, required notice. These reeeti.ich had the entire managem en t o f t h e estates ov er 7 1 ,4 they are appointed. Numero us t r i c k s were PlaYe,soe attorneys to get this appointment, and when the a l it ceeded in tide, oftentimes by procuring parties to e° e ta, perjury. They then receive all the e r r 0 and are not obliged to account f or t h e m ei ° t iae period of fifteen mon th s, b y w hi c h T ' be i he makes a very hand some t hi ng o f it. noels had also great power over all t enants w h o w ere 11 " re et to pay their rents, and th e conseq uence was the t of injustice was often done to the tenant for the bene d lO the receiver. The wh o l e o f t h ose ev i ls he at t r ibute ad Pigott's Act, which he th oug h t ought to b e repealee; be' things restored to the same state that they were. ilipgs fore. It was quite possible to alter this state of t'6 oo . without acting so unconstitutionally as to appoin t ode missioners. The mas t ers i n Ch ancery m i g ht be esof useful for this purp ose , an d by s i mp li fy i ng t he Pr°c,. - 0 in the courts of equity, an d retrac i ng the ste ps ts" e fi e d. bad legislation, a sufficitnt remedy might be aPPoese There was another most imp or t an t subject. Wer e l ei' triumvirs to sit in publi c ? Was th e press to betheir mitted? Were lawyers to be a d m itt e d t o shove tiP proceedings? Was the public to know anything r ler ee ing proceedings for the sale of estates till the n ot, was tulminated in th e D u bli n G azette? Ile had was after inquiry, been able to ascertain whether this _ A , to be a secret tribu na l, or i n what manner the ir pro ings were to b e con d ucte d . That was a most irte r , r t be subject, and he wished some information upon iu great object of this Bill was to improve the w es t of I' s , land, but he could affirm, from experience, that n e t c ao pital or skill could permanently improve the lands in d e far west. He was perfectly ci nvinced that these l og speculators a ho expect e d t o ma k e f ortunes b y purcheso6 these bogs ar.d morasses, would be disappointed' aleshoped they would, for no t b e i ng actuate d by per or tives. lie knew per: ens who had attempted the iMP I o re merit of portions of the soil, and after two or three 'pa they had to begin all over again. He thought th is should not pass in its present form. heale r Lord BROUGHAM said he wished to know %wit, the Commissioners wer e t o p rocee d ent i re ly by ow or by viva voce examination? he die- Lord CAMPBELL sa id i t was l e f t en ti re ly in t e s is cretion of the C omm i ss i oners . Th ere were no i° o wer the Bill. Th e B : 11 gave t h e C omm i ss i oners the P d ipge. to lay down ru l es o f pract i ce to guide the i r pros e they Lord MONTEAGLE said, the only answer s the could get upon points raised upon the Bill were, th ti , ic ilb Commissioners were vested with powers to dea l old them, so that tt whole real property in Irelan d " be be in the power of these Commissioners. 131h tjeeea, would ask, were they l e f t i n suc h a state as u a- oorb described by his Noble Friend. He approved of t ! mode of conveyance, but t h at was re j ecte d when T o ken gested it on another occasion. This Bill was to b e led in connexion with anoth er Bill, in which new p ri ! .. 011. were laid down, and w hi c h were engra f te d on th is ear The Bill to which be re i erre d was th e Irish P °° 'i n ted Amendment Act, by which gu ar di ans we re APP ° upon the auth or i t y o f t h e C rown , w h o h a d power','o rates and t o i ncur d e bt s . I n t h at Bi l l t h e re . it ", 0 off waS • power to appeal to the higher C ou r ts , an d -- t hat discovered that there was an incident to that peri er ra teli• a lee simple could be s o ld f or th e p a y ment o f the ' B ed In Connaught there were miles of l an d l e f t waste 10 uncultivated, because the landl o rd s wou ld no t underootS the occupation because the rates were due of the t en ken who had abandoned the land. Thi s Bill wa s to be te a r' in connexion with that Act, and would enable L the no or Pot ties to sell these estates for the payment of te e c lose rates. He would suggest the introduction a Or ni °r° for the protection of l a nd s h e ld j o i nt l y by LW° ~„e r ill' proprietors. The great evil in Irel an d was the sir e ob' tending power of the supreme court oftq if uitY° WY jeered to the time at which it w as produced. If passed this Bill, it would be a declaration of war 0 ° that class which was now most sufftheering The Earl of WICKLOW said tir . gunsen' s ,,,, w hi od he heard ag a i nst t h e Bill, from Noble Lords w"; pal spoken, w ere app li ca b le to the Bill In Committee' had did not apply to the principle of the Bill which thel ere now to consider. He thought the three COlnati Ssi° v lj ro; would be much mor e competent to deal with the 0f posed facilitating th e sa l es o f property than the C°ll-ther Chancery in either country could b e w i th so much (lithe business to transact. lle had he a rd no thi ng agains'bial principle of the Bill, ror anything urged to induce m be to consent to a Committee up st a i rs , b u t w hat 113 ig o of urged in favour of sendi ng an y Bill u p s tairs. U ° i ve the reasons urged for sending the Bill to the Con o ; r i E b up stairs was, th a t i t m i g h t b e cons id ere d by ' i cor lawyers, but he thought their Lordships quite the pre' potent to m a k e l aws as lawyers, and the sooner the via s sent practi ce o f l eav i ng the making of laws CO t hem e , to altered the better. He was by no means sangtdaf ee be any great eff t et a th a t thi s Bill wou ld pro d u ce. . 1 ' inse deved that the panic that now existed, and in t he l,3 be curity at present felt, no cl a s s o f purchasers w an " t asse found. For the first two y ears h e calculated ths'ceive Commissioners would have nothi ng to d o but re hold their salaries; but that was no r eason w hy the laW 5 th ipg not be amended.—(A laugh.) He had heard o ° ther e• against the principle of the measure, and he was fore entirely in its favour. The Bill was then rad a seeend time Lord CAMPBELL e then moved that . the Bill be ° lll' mitted. Lord BROUG aAm said that do a ° l , while he should /00 1 thing to defeat the Principle of th e measur e, he si r n" object to some of the details in C omm i ttee , s uch, ° stance, as the preceding by affidavit. He evishe d e old the general rules to be made by th e C omm i s sion tw rio d. be open to that House to obj ect w i t hi n a li m ited Pe' et to The Marquis of LANSDOWNE wou ld not ohtereed the motion of his Nobl e F r i en d , t h at t h e Bill be rer tee to a Select Committee, as its principle was adinitte"oei' thought the point s mentioned might be more e () , o in ently considered i n a Select Committee up stairs LP ° a Committee of the whele House. tha t Lord STANLEY said that they did not requir e eie et the exceptional case which the Bill was required tc'r t ee should not be carried further than the necessity ° 0 " t ee case demanded; but no powers should be given added Commissioners, unless the urgency of the case den 3 5 , 0 5, them. He had no desire to delay the measure unw verity. s e e ieet The Bill was then orde re d t o b e re f erre d to a Committee, to be named to-morrow. Their Lurdships the n adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS, June 11. PARLIAMENTARY OATHS BILL. On the m:;tion of Lord J. RUSSELL, that thi s be read a thi r d ti me , • Mr. LAW robe to move that the Bill be read a 7:be time this day six months. The opening sentences ir2 ol Hon. Members s p eec h were w h o lly i n audible e , the noise occasioned by Memb e r s leaving the th9 -rp tj ws The main object of th e B i ll wa s th e a dmission of '7 ec t into a Christi a n l e gi s l a ture ; b u t the real oh.l to of the Bill was not stated until they Can e . it the latter clauses of the Bill—ivhich wa very shod one. He objected to the " tong Q. s4f