The Sun. — London, England, 1815-02-22 00:00:00

1MPV,Ri . ..`.1., PA;?.i-,,i;‘':l/4iNT-. HOUSE OF L' q'ci,:s:DA . y, FEB. Thr (;ILlNCELLO.:.;zentinyted 'Thursday liAt.fo'r tike secti:id read;stg of the Bi for extlnt(ll , ± z ,r•Trial Ly Jury to ~- „ ;lever:? Petition; respeet. : .ng the Corn .Laws were presentea' ADMINISTR,i't'[UN The Order f•►r summonipgtheir Lordbjps bei►ig T.ead, The Earl of DARNLEY rOSb to 'bring forward hiF:pi•inniscd Which, in this instante was for a variety of Naval Docninentq, preparatorv. and :ts the proposed gronad-wark of a gl.'ner:tl inquiry_ into-the subject. lie prefaed _it -I 'd t a *speech 'ot much length, in which he c;; eyed into detailed considerations. Ue complained ri the misconduct of .the Marine Adminitration i a 9 having cast a cloud over the - naval glory of Britain, and of the insufficient maiiiiing of s yeral of our ships employed against the Aineri cans. With respect to the number of shipping employed, althOtigh they Might look sv 11 upon paper, yet many of them were, in fact, guii,boats, which could have no chance against an• American shift" of War, or even a stout privateer ; iu fact", Many of ,theta were vessel;• in such condition, they can't' neither 'fight nor nn There ivo.; another consideration of great importance not only referable to the present, hut to all future ars , and the general welfare of the British -Nary—namely, the prevalence of the dry rot, thus obtained to a greater degree, if lie were not rnis iitfrirnied, 'and the point was one that called tor the most serious consideration. Ile also adverted to the way in which several of our ships of war were latterly built—so disadvantageous, that when first sent out they were found not really sea worthy. The topic of the insufficiency of our nr niamelit ,upon the Lalies at Canada: Was next touched, upon, and the measure attempting to send such .ships as hack been sent out, up a rapid river, was much deprecated by him amt With respect to the immensely large ship built for the. service of Lake Ontario, she coidd not have been fitted out at all were it not for the arrival of the shipS which were employed to transport part of the Duke of Wellington's Army to America. The Centaur contributed frer lower guns, and other vessels anchors and cables. He meant to move, on other points, for information on that particular head. He also wished for copies or extracts of the correspond ence between the Board of Admiralty and the Co verrment of Canada, telative - to the defence• of that Prpvince. Another point nn which farther information was necessary,,waS the degree of pro tection actually afforded by the Board of Admiralty to the trade of the country, which he must think wag tar from being sufficient, and it Would be pro per to know the amount - of the force upon .the Cork.station. He next came to a point of equal importance and delicacy —one which he hardly knew hob/ to mention in that Hous'e, of which so than) , Members owed their seats to their naval achievement, lle believed, for the first time, it vi.-as lately known, that a Naval Adminitra- Tim) -had given orders to British ships of war to avoid those of the enemy.. 1-le heard that such directions %were actnally sent ; but he trusted it not be found so, for the hotionfof the Bri tish Navy. Aud, iu this view, he would move for copies ot instructiOns= given to the Commanders of ships upon the - .Atnericin station. All these con siderations formed an imiportaint whole, which merited serious investigation, and which, if it Iveve not ents'red hitt), we might, ere long, 'bid edicts to . the Naval stiveriority of this country. Lord MELviras. rose and said, he did not ex pect that. the• Noble Earl, from what he said on a former occasion;-would have entered so much in. detail, as introductory to. his motions'. lie.felt a; few observations from him now necessary.. A great part of what tell front the Noble Earl was Dot applicable to the naval war against America ; but io the. general - system adopted now and here tofore, for the conduct and regulation of the British navy. Ile was, lro.wever,desirousof a full discussion, at the proper time., of every part of the sAject. lie seemed to complain that the British Ships employed against America trete-not like the American manned with picked meth . The thing was impossible, considering such a tinnier- Otis and widely extensive navy as that of Great Britain ; ,whereas they had the whole niaritithe population of 'America to supply the manning of souse four or five large dills of war, and a small number of lesser armed vessels. It was not, howe i ver, on the American cults alone that the naval Operations against the United States took place ; many conflicts were on the - coast of Brazil, in other ptices. But, in point of fact, our ships were manned to that extent, which all there who were competent judges of the sitb ject, deemed adequate ; it was neither the esta blished posture of the British Navy, nor wits it practicahle, to put picked men on 'hoard particu lar ships. No Administration, therefore, would lie Justified in attempting to depart front so long on established .course. This country had an im mense trade to protect•in all parts of the world, Mitt the British ships of war were kept ] much longer on their stations than the Americans. Our vessels were mletputtely calculated to. cope with,. and even to overcome ves4t.ls of the same class and description ; but it was well known they had sonic few'ships -they rated as frigates which were as large its Many line-of-battle ships. With,respect to the question of the Convoy Service, he would make it appear that every necessary protection was afforded by the Board of Admiralty, and hiat where losses Were sustained, it was chief ly. owing to the non-compliance of tho s e to be prnre ,, to l with the convoy regulations. A num ber of small vessels on the American station was lAd to be proper, and desired by the Officer its rjonmand, Sir A. Cochrane, who must, be the 'most corrpetent judge of such a point,: Th e :r* , * obit - Viscount then defended the general system 1('1t1)tt:d for the buibling,ot ships for the Navy, c al that AVhiCh long experience prOyt;tl to tH• best.; and lie fillet - red to a report of the In ar t of Dock-yards to ,hoy aat no fault was oft that bead. He next touched upon that ,•, tile Hlenee of the Lakes-of Canada, in which vmdkai r(f- 11,e conduct of Administrii ; reterrin g to the objection nnn i e Lo the measure of . sending out vessels for fiArt%tcn s lar the 0 ' 612, • would see, the tot-res,nuidenct;, that one of/ t ho,e vessels was min..die emp!ov%27l it': the fence of !fdif, Ontario. -.1 . 0 the !notions gentrall;y of "the Noble Lord., i4she itafl i a id before-, he had Ito objecti<)os to a , ,,ree. There Vra3 ir'ar h6w evek, which he tun,lexc , lit against at which involved nupptes,ed or:h.rs to prevent our ft:;gates 4Vro-1-0 clip - ging with the large 4inerican vessels , he point would invoke confidential letters-lo the Comm lnder in. Chief, which it would be vs.ry, iut proper, nlth wit- going on, to produce:te•The Noble Earl might - postioone particular mo tion, but - there %vas 110 neeeisitv tor such Orders it; those contemplated by the Noble . Lord, because it was generally known to he the established law of the i'•;Ary, that if the Captain of a ,frigate kfrowiwgly-eutered into, action against an enemy's lint of battle ship, he was liable to be brought to a Court Martial jar such conduct : anti here he ittrtst - repeat, that some of the American large ships of war lie called frigates, were equal in point of strength to line of battle ships. _3,Cter u - few farther remarks from the Noble Viscontit, to a similar .purport, The Earl of DARNLEY shortly replied ;* anti consenting to witlidfaw the particular motion ob jected to, the questions were put on the others, -and the accounts were ordered to be produced ac cordingly:. PRITISH TROOPS ON THE coNTINENT. Lord GuENVILLE pursuant to his notice, brought forward his proniised motion on thisstili j.ect, which Was for an Account of the number of British' troops, and Foreign troops in.nritish pay, eiiip!oyedin different stations on the Ointinent of 'Europe, together with a statement of the dif ferent titan Establishments kit home and uhroad. His Loydship prefaced his motion:With a variety of observations', in the course of which he prowl newly adverted to the pioposed Peace Establish ments, which lie conceived to he much mote-ex tensive than were called for, and lamented the seetning'itisposition which prevailed of rendering Great Britain an extensive tratary power. The Earl of LIVERPOOL did not oppose the rim tion, but generally adverting to some of the to pics referred to by the Noble Baron, observed, the time o ould arrive when the policy - and objects of the -British Government on • those subjects would .be fully discussed and satisfactorily explained. The Marquis of LANSDOWNE spoke • shorti) in support of simile of the leading points advanced by his Noble Friend. ,The Accounts were then ordered to be produced, and their Lordships' adjourned till to-morrow., HOUSE OF COMMONS. Several Petitions were presented, praying for the non-renewal of the Property Tax and oilers from the occupieis of land in different districts of the United Kingdom in favour of some alteration in the Corn Laws. STATE OF THE STREETS IN THE METROPOLIS. Air. M. A. T AYLOR•FOSC to call the attention of the House to a public grievance, which, in his opinion,. required both immediate remedy and fu ture precaution. The only question, he appre- - 'mended, would Was to the nature of that remedy ; for the evil of which he - complained was -indisput able and universally , felt, yet without the inter ference of Parliament would probably remain un redressed. He wished to submit to the House the necessity there existed of preserving the pave ments of the metropolis in such a state as should not endanger the safety of his Majesty's subjects. ,The law guaranteed every man's title to the terra firma, •ancl on him who obstructed ,or undermined it imposed the obligation of fully and completely repairiug the - miSchief he had occasioned. The streets 'of Paris were not subject to this in convenience ; and those of Edinburgh, and from that to Leith, were equally safe and beautiful, forming an inclined plane, and enabling'Car riages.. to proceed with equal convenience and velocity. What he now proposed . was, io bring in a hill enabling the .CR“vn to appoint a Bii•ard of Commissioners, and to r livicle the metropolis into four or tire districts. These Commissioners were to act gratuitously, and to be composed of geu tlemen resident iii the • particular diStrict over which they presided,- and to possess, as a qualifi cation, 3001. a year, or 10,000/, in money. He should also introduce a compulsory clause on the Water Companies, restraining them from taking up any pavement at their own pleasure, or from laying down any other than iron. pipes. in future, .as well as to,limit their right of breaking up a street to It particular period of the year. It was obvious that it .was an evil chiefly experienced iu the winter season. The Inspector must be armed with the power of levying tines,,either on the parish, or time authors of the mischief, and iu proportion to the extent of the evil, subject tO the'revision of the Cominissioners. Ike should also propose that-these provisions might equally extend to the Gas Light Companies, anitthe missioners of Sewers, and that they should all he interdicted from laying down wooden pipes iu timture. The fact was, the pavements, after being so opened, were not laid down again sometimes for months, and without some.quick and comptil sory measure, he was convinced the evil' would continue to exist. Air. CALVERT enquired whether it was the lion. Members intention to :include the Bormigh of t. , outhw ark in the provisions of his- Bill. - * gr. TAYLoa replied, that ia a Bill of this na tare; it was impossible to except any particular District ; but if Sburliwark required :90 inspec -tioU,_ it would become liable to no expellee. The expellee already borne by the metropolis was im mense, not less than 150,000/. per annum, while that of his al would be no more than 2,3001. Leave was then given to prepare and bring in the Bill. NEW' POST-OFFICE. The report of the Resolutions qt' the Committee having been brought tip, Sir J. .SHAIN , 'obtained leave to bring in a bill founded on the GUENFZLI. .observed, that from particular inquiry he was satisfied that the necessary en lar.ty,:ment and improvement of the pres'en!. esta blishaWnt .would cost as touch as the new buildittg projected, in fit. Martin's-le-Crand, viz. 800,001)1. FIi,F,S OF. COURTS OF JUSTICE IN .11tELAND. Sir .lunN NEwpoRT, after several observ A tions, moved fiir leave to bring in a Bill enip - utvering'ibe commissioners appoinetd, iii cumplianci it ith thc of Siiai tiOnse, I;i*ifpiite into the kis Of Courts of, Justice in lo'eland, to compel the klt ten dauce of necessary tvidnes• Mr. B. BATtlutist (;posed tl;t: motion as tin- necess:.:rv. .No such iiut was given ',to to:Lmission anpointed,in 1732. 4r. W. Siktyrn thought the obi . ect of the tio tion'one of absolute comarou sense, and ' , .vithout which it was htkite tkvious the eniitiiry Must be wholly ineffectual. Mr. SIMEots; vindicated the characters of Mas ters in Chancery; and eXposed the improbability of their being influenced by smelt petty cortiiption as that cishich the enquiry necessarily supposed. Mr. IlotisEtt did not think_tlte panegyric pro nounced upon • the Masters of Chancery by the Hon. and Learned Gentleman any ans\ver to the observation of his lion. Friend. y He thought it very extraordinary that ary objection should be matte to give the power now required to the Cotn missioners, to summon witnesses to give evidence on oath •; because that, without such a power, the appointment of Commissioners appeared to him . to be nugatory : and if the Right lion. Gentle man should succeed in resisting tlkis motion, Ice.. had no' doubt but that all future endeavoyrs to check the abuses complained of would prove fruitless. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said, • he must resist the present motion. The Commissioners were Gentlemen of most approved !., , pod character;- and if they slimed the smallelt dereliction of their duty they would forfeit that high distinction % which their previous conduct had obtained. 'roe power required to be given vas ttnnecess try, and it was a settled principle in politics ;kit Oic gi 3 Onture should never exert its poNvers Untieces sarilv. Mr. Abercrombie supported the moision, as did also Mr. Ponsoriby. Air. STEPHEN would vote in favour of the pre sent motion.. Lord MILTON followed on the same side. The CHANCELL,Ott of the ExcHEQUER S4ld, that the question was, as to granting powers to a coin mission which were, not .generally granted; even under the Great Seal._ • Atter a few words from Mc. li. SumNcn, the Hogse divided — Noes BS—Ayes 76—Majority 12. ITAINSFER. OF GENOA. Mr. L.\METON said, he rose to move for certain Papers relative to the late nal:sac:ions at Cr v itoa. He did not intend to apoLogi,e fo.lbriaging tor ward a subject whiq had attracted the attention of the House. ITl , cti the good faith, the justice, and honour of the conntry stood im-• peached, and the accusations agaili , t Ministers S 9 prominent and strong, %vele m e t vial t, le it om ity; or pleas of ignorance, all who - (!id• not partake of ,the blame which attached to them, had a sufficient excuse tor. perseverance. lie. NVlShed to know bow would shelter theaisclves under tho:v serious acVasatious ? Were not the acts of the Secretary for Foreign Affairs the acts of the whole Gover . nnient it for the Noble Lord alf - ne ti) &settle ciu the most important affait ;, without their advice or authority ? • Their silence on this subject would not ranch lone,er avail them ; for be trusted the impin taut day wOuld shortly come xvlien the most disgraceful acts of Minit;ters. would be exposed, and no longer he shielded by darkne,s - ----(1 - 1ear, hear !). If in private life, any charge was made against an individu,l, of the most opprolpious nature; it lie was accused of being eng , ;ged in the most infamous transactions— et-hoes involving his himour,integrity,and all that eau huplicate his charaeNr ; and if, instead of ao swering such charges, he were perpetually to evade the `attack,-and say, the' time is not Vet come for mime to defend royelf,' what would be the feelings cif every hono , .rable mind ? would he not be deservedly treat::d with.the ittnri.t scorn anti contempt ? Similar to such conduct is that of the Ministers. Charges are alleged against thein of the most disgraceful and dishonourable nature —traitsactioos which are not Merely in eoatem platiOn, 'hat which have acttm!ly bee n arr,m &kited, but against which they refuse to defend themselves. Had t,tot the .people of Genoa, while rely ing on the ;;nod filial of Great Britain for pro tection, been transferred over to all inibeeile and petty Sovereign, like so many droves of earth! . 1---- /Vitd what talismanic Word was that WhiCh MIS brought forward to excuse such a flagrant and in-' famous transaction ? It was urged that the altera tion would be found necessary to reg;olate the ba lance Of power. But the true 'balance of power was only to be found ill.the, steady affections of the people to their Government : such were the' only means of restoring the power in question.— Genoa, however, had,seen her liberty annihilated; and to no spoliation had England eyer been a party so detestable and infamous as that of this territory, 111 April, 1814, these people were told in the t oo,t pointed terms, by a Britiih ()Ulcer, that theil. ~'NSt security was in resistance to foreign oppreßsion, and that by such resistance .their lihertievvouid be restored with more • resplendency than CNer. Lord \V. Bentiuck, in the .same Pcocianiatioo, ;Italica an appeal to their nationo feelings,. and bids them come finward and assert the rights of a free people: Was there a mind so apathetic P.s not to exult in the .blessed work of restoring to their rights and independence a brave 'and op pressed,people. But in eight months after Wards, when'these pcoftle had been thus' tantalised iind doluded, a mandate arrives • from -thas. de; , rad.ed and deteStable Congress .of . Vienna, annulling at - once the designs in their favour , al . irl consigning •the whole country 'at once over to the most weak- and imbecile 6overniiient in existence.: Where was Losd Bentinck at this time was very properly absent from this scene' of atvo,- cty ; for if lie had been present, Lamb ton) eras COVlVilleed that he never Would have snl le'red his -name to be coupled with so infamous a transaction. But a Britis)i Gein'ral, Dalrymple, informed the people of Genoa that they were 4 7 livered up to Sardinia, .and that lead it -in corn- Mainl from the Prince Regent of England' to in form thew of what had taken place in their re gard. Now he would ask, who is rez , poilsib:e for this communication ? If the Prince Regent is 11.0 t responsible, the House must conic to. his Mini sters: if, th e y do -not - avow the' advice they have given, then Gencral Dalrymple. is answerable for theprocteding :- it they du airOW it, let thelll ft i - WArd rind . .rfti:!, Wet' th . rie Conintet. t s 1.3 ;veered, in the eves elf the nation, of ;.:•••1:1t; l":" 1 st'ttited the good faith and iromme ;if s"-`a ,1 , 11 ; ti ey pretend to believe fle4t. they stall 1 inaini ttet y He %vat confid e nt that there was. nut a moo in the . o „(ootty who would not deeply regret that the lut-, theft° untullied . character of this country he so disgraced and tarni;hed—a country which had so lately staimoned the nations of the Co" - tinelit to resist oppression, and whose er;1 . '3 ,1 ertions had, under Providence, been sn -eteineuttY successful. Tbatalria odious transaction might he 1 1 thoroughly investigated; be shauld move that ail humble Address be presented to the Prince 14r, gent,. praying that he wonid lrc graciott'slyple , - I sc:,' • to order to he laid before the [loose, - copies (au- and the papers relative to proceed': n,es of tire British verninent with regard to Geaoa. (These wer'-' parately moved for; they were copies of the PIO7 clamationS of Lord V. I?e,}nt nick and Gen. 1.)4 1 r," 1 "; plei of the instructions given to his bordsinp as the grounds for his &induct, altd of th - c - l ° ' structions to the Italian prisoners of :vat - , at th'r time of their liberatibti.) On this last topic, t.h e Hon. Gentleman observed, that his object ill moving for copies of such instructions was ' 4 , shew, that this Government not •only guarantee". the independence of Genoa against the _Pectic'', but also against any other rower whatever. On the questidn being putt, a l ou d `,'as made for the Chaneeror of the Excheoner, fron several voices on the Opposition side. The Itighc Hon. (entleman, however; did not rise. Colonel Wool) that being nearly connect ed with the Noble Lord yeliose conduct has h , 'o` so severely animadverted upon, perhaps the Ht) , : l4 wollid permit him to asks their indulgence t . "' in.ikiug 'a few observations. He would vent , '"' to suggest to the Honourable Member who ha ti made the (notion, that on mature consideration , ' he see the unfairness, anti ere;) the in; ust ice of prematurely discussing a subject: lH ' , so serious a nature in the .absence of ah inth vidual who could not possibly be here to all' swer for himself. But the whole event rant' ( shortly come under discussion ; and he would an':" ticipate, that when his Noble Friend returned, 14 '1 would meet the charges, and repel, them will) . nitwit credit to himself, as *he had acquired by all, the numerous and important transactions in which he had been ettgaged. It had always been hi . ' practicelo Meet his accusers face to face', and tt ,,y " foruily to answer thein, without subterfuge e r , evasion ; and he was sure his Noble F r i en d nn aL, , _not depart front his invariable line of condoct• - " Bht in the mean time he would put it to the Gentleman to co n fider, whether -this ['nestle ° ought to he deemed' erne of an is4lated or sing l4 atu hre, or whether the metrsure was uncortneoe tl . with th e other groat events whkh•had cinga' , ted E l '`' attet:tion of ti , e Congrc..s.s. Not withatinentig, ep?thets which had been heaped opoo this grey-it s° , sembly, - when it eras considered whit t h e y h a d do, ITT! thought t half he Hoese and the countri' , Oi l ! exyCet to:lltitlch h - 0111 it 1 . '(l,,,:tid and nual shouts of Hear, - heir, hear !•froun the OPI 9 ; sition side.) The • ohjett cif the ,Cnng,ress the pacification of the world ; and- though . ft ` 1 ; must be admitted to .be beyond the ren-cu 01 ;1,, human agency whatever, every man must be fry ., aware that the jarring and cOntendiog which clash at the Congi!ess, have emeated finite diffic l ulty in the tharelt of their operatio n6 i 13ut their object is to give it respite to' ;he "n'°' l ,`, from the scenes of blood and hat: or wilt it haul so longheen ant meted : *this he was firti" , c convinced •would be accompished .bitt ought tint to he expected than could he p e rfoon l ' e by ear, hear !) He was sure t Lard would not shrink from the responsibilliY tached to . Conilute.t, hoWere' r great it he ; but all his acts ought to be considered :IS of tie Government :, vet: a certain h it , 4 rude of diseretiOn must have been entr"' t t c ei to him: howe.vcr, •no hesititiol l l acknowiedgiug, that die Noble Lord Iran had, 0) be one of " t a c', . ) % l • l i - i de r t e e s t i t io l.i i i i i( iibility. He was in the hot's' the Noble Lord's father - in Ireland, when a ll '''. • was received from him, which stated that ,„ friends woold be surprised to hear that lie Ilitt e t V" . appointed to meet the Congress, and that be “i,e on the point of sailing for the Con:inent was fully aware of the awle! responsibility of , 0 t task imposed dn. but that he shrink! 'shrink (ruin his duty. lie (Colonel W00d),.:,,,r, juiced as much as the Honourable Member,' the day \void(' soon arrive when he would be V„t to detcnd hirriseif, and he' did sincetelv Intpe believe that the whole of-his conduct, whe' l a• came to be examined, would prove to have ,l' ,c to t directed as much for the interests of the cot.°lt as it would bti satisfactory to that country.ll ll ,' Is e tl the House: He•had only to trust that the ~r would he of °pillion, that it was »ot right 1 ‘ ) ahstractedly jolt) this to't.itary question, kin tl it thinking, he would ihove„is amendmenty the wise - StIOLIICi 110 w proceed t o the otlier of the Day. The CHANeEt,Lott of the ExcnEklugg !.. am , n;st the loutl,!,t excknations from the 01- I P . iiitt tion benches. He said he (silly agreed with off Hot). - Cientleman who moved.tl; ' q tes 9 1 ,010 4Y w:0 tn'!cessary for the vein: able. an' to ed noura'ble, and manly manner in which he had .forward as the cinimpioo of what he suppo 4 r i t e he the sullied tonic and- injured hotuntr'atenit• cothiury. , however, 'which he . (the Hon. Othitletnan) most contend for•was, ti%ti ~lit of is not the proper time to. come to a disclts6ll,,,li the subject. lie was sure it was the wish ' O Ol4 . (list ors Co have an opportunity' exenli - o ncl t themselve; from such serious charges, ns itta t zus it could he that of the Honourable. Ge", t that they should do so. But it would be I ` ! ,o c ifd sible to enter upon such a discussion without intt 'in a' variety of particulars which' 0"r"I tt . to be'discloscd': One circunistaneee g cc' qn;reti some- notice. 'Notwithstanding ,1;e ' rile , ,„ pensions of the Honourable.Mentber, =ibi t` te a ol' gationS, that the national honour had bee' : promised, the national character stained; lr P public toast( veolated, he .woiuld ta po ke e u s bot` r positivtly to deny. 'He would be able e Ofi . • Av i uen the time arrived, diet nothing \\dna ev . ot.Cutred to degrade the high character al' l,ri h ,pity of this country. He could have . ,V , ,,d• however, that ;es Hon. Ft lend (C. 019. 1161 v /0 /4 Lc; not tnov:E.l toe awcatitheut lot paVit'g