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t h e re t t he ,hou gh Yet he . „olso thesg ineu tsy s pre' ) wo• ,h o o°le • th r ;~ having received so great a sum for to swearings. They- admitted that they were 1. have 1 800 doll ars a mont h . Thi s f act go t r i o. n . ar nong the other w it nesses and after that, he one of them would acknowledge to have "I -Promis e d or to; 'have •receix it.l any sum. of ▪ e'cept a stiv er or a d uca t, for his trouble. zr,y. 86 ' 41 , " I shall not. have any thing but t° pencfs. I require nothing; I only - hope.. '° l l get h ome to my master." Could such ti 4 l : ll° i s , s !s -- be believed ? He gave credit to Officers who gave evidence, and %vas the only testimony . 'that • could • ( air , `elved or relied upon.: If this was. a th, , t ee Old Bailey, and it were to appear to t4,„"udges that the :witnesses were 'discharged ti ct ;, 4 , ll tss all of. wh om b a d b een tutore d_ a t a par h„ la.r place, th e i r ev id ence arrange d , — t h at t h ey ',en taken into the employment and pay of the io"4elentors,---that they were drilled and cooped til !•Ir to give instru c ti ons t o eac h o th er , as to t!,`, 1 12 -cts' they should swear to, —that one of ,cc ' who was a courier in the employ of the u „ ta l / 4 . 5 '"' \%as employed and paid by the ac , 4l at co hi g h a rate as to b e a bl e to k eep At t .,) 1 5 dress himself in the first style, and - live rate of etir 5001. per annum, which, in 1V,.1' 13 at the rate of 15001. per annum, they o a k " drive the ch arge o u t o f C our t, to the dis * . e 3 T-Iti infamy of the prosecutors. But this of t "-It a charge of High Treason, nor a charge Nirourder or robbery, but it was a Bill of Pains K'flaities, which 'he had-to argue against.— {' AttOr thy n e•Geileral, in his opening, asked, ' , iir,l• 4t - was the reason of the respectable hotahat Ladies leaving her-Majesty ? Must they ktis,„ 4 " seen something which excited their not that to be inferredfrom of t h'ern deserting her ; indeed, how could 11,,, Y ek . 5 t,a37 after witnessing such indecent and dtt asp ' fl g familiarities ?" Now, after making-such temp„`, - 'on, who did not he call some of those rase a ble Ladies ? But it appeared -that the "ido lose Majesty was to .be proved, not by • e s but b y th e wan t of it ;- and the infer t t l - 0 b e a r 'e Attorney-General must be supposed evid e ; ' a ir and j u st one, because -there were no vase o f this called to prove it was not so. , In a d — t his sort, was it not the Attorney-Genie fact u tY to have called the witness to prove . t Or„n i ch he wished their Lordships to infer? ow; ere their Lordships to take it •as proved, t 5 6 (Mr. Brougham) called the witnesses. ,-ro ve - DI it was not so. to r e r * IlitouonAm now requested a little time 3 Pok e-r e nit his almost exhausted frame. lie had_ ta at d 4 bout two hou r s, and was exceedingly ant half!an -Mr. Brougham was allowed to retire for. t 't4, • RoucnAm returned at a quarter before etc ilr„d tpi ii , : e ee f u a : .., l „ . Ile commenced by adverting t he f he had been tinder the neyessi f ty l o "11 their indulgence, and which he tearet t . e otlier occasions love to claim. The nuparall . eht k d '1. 44 " of the Case wise ' his sufficient juetificatmu, asfi; !`rtief, t ' and their sufficient inducement . fo k r gi a -ati r t e i ,i ., ,, i , of the t :'lite c :.%“`; , , on resuming, procet•tl „nrit hail been adduced; and ta the fibrstrts.ti•liit,i.ineishscirveadßNr iii s I- 'lt . - ,""iocci—a name that would long e c1)." " r l and indeed every where else, after the man which k , thee of ancient sages reached our da)s, '2r"nt's woir ot e lserwise he lost, by means of little sa):- 1 / 4 1 ;rh were recorded as proofs of wisdom , and experi 'lf 11 • "s lon. • Ishould' he known among men, those ' ;ti e , ... as s would .. )e. woitld remembere.i, and his image I k `ole t est • d a witness of great importance, in t ,, hr evii s te l i t i t m e t e :•xtended over nearly the whole of tides whirl embraced,by the charge. was :• WAS 1 4 f‘r her he errretire from the service of the Prince . ss, ~,`l!'iehfunti.(l desirous . of turning shout the time at whit Is (*.i; was concocting. had. often heard a remark ar er,„. . tat , ' 4l ' - mic pre 1 that Majocci s oubtfu . l testit i i i i i r r my . an 1 1. ' 1 'et 1 lid triou the defect of memory. He did hut as I .-ist differed not in different in ill Ile>ils . trill h o nes t% He knew there were differences n 'lly parts of Nlajocci to r eco ll ec t of memory. But " f 's evidence, and he fa st .' t' Y lite wit o f man to produce more plain instance ii us sw earing than ' his " I don't remember, ' and , I w there were cases in which such an `te hw'ould'be He I •s but he would come to e.e ut an the fact eosittve of this peijury. He would come ti t ; 41 ,° 1 1ec where he swore bar:lily to the positton • f 1 \1 „ - ',Jcst e ' " dl F to ins of Ber arni as connected with that of li . er i read been great object of the Attorney-Ge th..'irratri "rc that the posttion of the rooms had alwys been e the eminnistimi of adultery, by s h ow ing that . •it co n • gilticSllariy train• and drilling . to this poiat had been at tended m i " ol and therefoie it was that the first heti er p repared, and had sworn more to it than - ,, e i 'ro• 11 • I had evidently been 'inure prepared, and hest 1 - :un t inhered every thing which w'ne. thin; to character the Queen, and f "r , ot every tht r - wotild show ho w far his forgetfulness conld h fiv e. ;4, l ' l ;ttl : , or ninoceut. First., when asked " . „ l her it was distant, or near to the Princess t ' e a,r." " Where were the rest of the suite, • " 1-% '4r '" The word which he nstd in reply was a 111 11 whiel 'I: 1. 10 WaS " apart." . Now if apart . meant any •e' a l l . r •-•••., that they were distant. Here, then. est "Iclocent forget fuloess, it, when 1ie.4 . 111r. B.) .;asked, t,„ question. l e ~- the witness told lien " lie did not knots, th at not recollect ' ," when he had before stated s k . r was e . were near, and some apart. By such evidence, II .1% n:riured as • a man who might first t " u t 11, h" . seen a mart on a r irticular day, ‘‘" ; 4111'44. 1 "141 lie hadnevt . .r seen him in his life. He t e '•tien t t r ,r their Lordships atiother specimen front the ueas,i----menot her sample of his memory. The Learnt: d th e al l e !' l dverteil to the contradictory evidence res . peet t i itteti tr uth " t oot's at Villa d'Este. The ; ; raftin g the most effect.' way of traininga.e.'o . l! , ta tn,;e, Kett was that an honest mao's life Ilogla wite r ,.„'' e reputation of an lllustrhms Princes . s. , le t ;: r1 Plac e Lo speaking of the circumstances which %et . ' v e 'Naples, could recollect, to a nminte , o h e "'s formerly r•t •ntive memory suddenly heel:int'', : ".w h cr °ss-e 'hint that lie could not even reinem e4cl,Tltlt,r ittei e tw en ty-two sailors on holtrd a -40 1:1 "ill; re- ere 'Pr nally at fault :he l '1 " t r etatil ? eet t " p l , aues . f i te "a' i eq where hey ect where tue sanors seept, or !'? night• A more various memor . y 1: 1 :; I rs of -34 ; 1 1 :' 3 never existed was 'Kerr exhibited to . the bt, w4, 'Y Croon .1 11 ,ti, When in his cross•exaina : 1 1 :t is .,s o , v m N:Ir. Hughes, a banker :hue bur upon having n N l i c re freshed, he at lengt remembered al and that he used to call hint by way ut a ft 4t tml, " brother hanker." Being a marrie d . te,aal.:•l‘lll,e made overtnres of inarriage to an uninin ill,' dui I Re• wish to be nit in mind of any circum tfitif':!'t. jit:„4,llt.:.e,...ittothis part: of his c l ondut. .l le fir . s . t . fi t eafla_r_i... , 1- I : and Stuart, to carry him to 3111. ► it, Plt, 11 1 e " ' stioctiv affirmed that he hail notie—(pac.. e ` k ", n t . es .t .— The . Attornev-Genernl iii his 'hv e '"lng beta taut the Queen anti Berganit. " oi . - ;he merely spoke ,trit,„ 0. 1 4 , i n 7 ..tiotei:Counsel h au l h u si whiseering. The Learned . had ' 1 +:4,0 Ts:1111 r e s t l4l Learneri Fiiend for theyrosectit . mt thei t hat Whiell his brief contained, or -in ° st, n the variou s witnesses, and Isl:.j?cei am ongl_l " , " 1, ',r e t i ed during their very long drtlling for e aai , ~'eY were at last to perform. But when this e„,di'el tat ) . 1 , ) lhe lest, he was staggered—he had not the 4.4 ; 1 14 that which was essentially necessary to sup be of the Attorney•Gener;d. Like every other t oel h wil, ad I had trusted Itr the fidelity his imagination, till i r‘e..:olated fron t t h e path of truth, he was much noire ''ree t 4. , 4 2"tier that which was tru e , and to forget the (compspring •e t tfurg latio n ed Air. of Broughhis inve am) : ntion lint my Learncd wa anxis for a Icon LP support th e story s which his ou brief Mi con tained, tc Dia you. not (said, he to Majocci) know of any thiag else-that tonic place at anytime Nothing .but whisper ing" was again the answer. These may appear trifling iacim siatencies in hit evidence, but it is by such apparently uniin por ant cireinnstaacts' that conspiracies are detected. Willi res i sect to Bergami :and the (-Incest, while the latter was riding on an ass, the Hilly, thing that was . proved, in the examination was, that Bergatin supported her to prevent her from eillinsf- Much stress, howeeer, lead firen laid upon this circuiastatwe in the charge to their Lardships. Majocci's evidence is iu opposition to that of our senses—it is incredible. He would actually have your Lordships believe that the Queer, who had free access to the roots' of Iterganti by another passage, preferred prissiirg through his (Majocci's) chamber,. while he was asleep; with a fire which lighted the room. and that in her way from her own apartment to Bet pan's, whither it was said she Was gaing to commit adultery; that she stopded to loud: at MajacCi's face, to ascertain whether or not he was asleep. 'This was a story which Was very likely to ematiate m fro a man who was tolerably acqnainted with the stag ies of a midnight robber, for such an intruder alone would stop to took at th e face of a sleeping man, in the manner describ ed in his evidence. The Learned Counsel fur the Qiieen rested principally upon the very . esintradictory evidence which this. matt, Majocci, gave respecting his getting into the Queen's service. It the testimony of a Witnes4. were in validated on one idult, It was sutficient, - and the Learned Comm., declared, that out of his own mouth, he would prove his falsehood, Whets requested to state if he ever wish ed to go hck—if lie had ever asked to return inter her Royal Highness's service, he does not remember.; but when asked if he did not apply to Count Schayini' to procure his re-ad mission, he believes he did, but it was hi joke. When asked it lie did not several times apply to Hieronymus," Non mi ricordo" Was the answer. 'l's'is " Non mt ri.,ordo," was a gross perjury,•for he must have remembered. whether he did ' or not. At one time he declared he left the,Queen from hor ror of the persons by whom she was surrounded ; he said with h o n....am' ion, he would rather tat the grass than, go back to the houses . . Now, was this the saying of an honest man, or a credible witness, who had usade several applications to go back . ? Such was Nlajocci's evidence. With respect to the Mate of the vessel, the impudent flippancy with which he answered the questions that were put to him, was very far from a proof of truth. The Learned Counsel world venture to say that never was any witness better paid than this man. He received at the rate ri 2,0001. per annual. Now in the country to which this man Belonged, an individual pos sessing there or four hundred a year Was a rich man ; and if the money this : 1111111 received were merely to requite him fur the lois he sustained by 'his absence, in his own country his wealth must be enormous ; his name would be resounded throughout all Italy, and every person would be anxious to have letteri of introduction to one so completely overflowing with wealth. The same thing might be said of the Supercargo. He had about one-fourth part leis to pay to his whole crew than he received for swearing its this cause. But when he had to do with Royal persons. he expected something more Oats was actually bargained for and if he imagined so much dependence might lir placed. upon the Queen's bounty, he was, probably, not unmindful of that - which might flaw from her Royal Consort, provided he did.his business well in this cattseprovided uu accident prevented its terminating in a• proper manner, But he had another. imincemeat, indepen dent of reward. Revenge also was his object. 'He had quar relled with Bergami„ who paid him his money: he had com plained to his Ambassador that Bergami had kept hack 13001. from him, and Ise wastold by his Ambassador that he might go to London and see about this business. This 13001 . I w arra nt (said the Learned Cousisel) he did not think be should be less likely to succeed in obtaining for having a.hand in this cause. Now with respect to the kissing Which was stated to have taken place on board the vessel, sarely . this was too uncom mon an - accurrence,even in the Mediterranean, forany circum stance relating to it to be forgotten; and yet upon this sub ject the witness differed. The mats said (p. 99, Minutes) that when ha saw the Queen 'on Bergami's kiite, it was not on a gun, but near the, mast; but he added not one, word about kissing. He thus forgot the must important point, 'and this forgetfulness would satisfy their .Lordships that the alleged fact had not happened. The Captain, - on the other hand, swore that 1 hey .werr sitting °a a gun and kissing. But, perhaps, they spoke of a different time. No; fur the Captain said that his mate had seen it as well as himself. What was -the reason at this important difference in the statements to which they swore? It was this : they had been examined im mediately one after the other, and had not had thus to be drilled, - and to settle what they each should say to make their evidence tally. Hence they differed entirely, and it was evident. that their story could not be true. And now what were their . Lordships to think of this Captain? He was a mass of sti ck strictness of conduct, and his - mate so "was k youth, and Naples and Messina such a garden.of Eden, that • when he saw a Lady going near a man, not touching him, but merely leaning' towards-the place where he was, he immedi ately dismissed Isis mate, because he was his distant.relation, - . and he conceived hiMselibound to prinect the purity ( of his blood ! He never said that The Princess or Bergami had de sired him to go; Nu ; the' guilty pair did not require his absence, but the conscientious Garzuclo, - reviving in the Mediterranean, an example of virtue which ancient times had never witnessed, could not suffer his mate to remain where a Lady did not touch, but leaned towards man ! Was the existence ,of such motive to he credited? If it were not, their Lordships must believe that he told a gratuitous falsehood : neither would his falsehood be quite gratuitous, for he meant to earn his money by it—he meant . to enlarge those uncertain remunera t ion s w h i c h he exp ecte d to receive from obliged Royalty, and to improve his chance of recovering t base 13001. which be avowed he had come over for the purpose of obtaining. One word more about these witnesses, and lie should have done. He could not refrain front admiring how well they had been drilled. He held them to be models of the art; and no wonder, for they were the best paid of the troop, and ought to be its crack specimens. But there were fortunately limits to that art, otherwise, Giid have pity on the innocent who wete thus attacked! They could not tell the same story unless they had time to 'com pare anti to agree together, and that time not having been allowed them, their discrepancies were proofs of their false hood. That they were the lineal tlesendatits of the Doc tors of Bologna no , one could doubt. Living, dining and breakfasting together, with all their relationship of profession and blood, master and mate as they were, yet on one subject, they never chose to enter into conversation, and that subject was this inquiry, of which they formed a part, - and which occupied all. minds. fe"l' am not a mast," said the Captain', "to speak on such A subject uut of Court. It would tint he dc.ent, it world not he fitting that I should say out of doors to any body, what passed within." Did you say a word to your mate upon the subject ? he was asked—" Oh no."— Did you agree together not to mention it?—" y es ." _What ever mischief .to society and to the 'morals of the country might arise; in consequence, of the present ill ()awned proCeed-, logs, it was some consalat ion to know that there was tune spot in the universe, a little land of Goshem, secure from contami ant ion, where the modesi mat ronland the spotless virgin might visit, and its the midst of t hose who were the great cunt' ibutors to the matters which excite such general disgust., and Use wit nesses in the cause, hear nothing that could offend their de licacy or raise a, blush upon their cheeks., Susi strange to say, that little spot was Cotton Garden, in the vicinity of that House.—(Laughter.)—lf their Lordships chose to be lieve this, he did not wish to interrupt so pleasing an illu sion. But if they did not believe it, they must believe some thing else—they must believe that all the witnesses that had said so, were perjured over and over again. Both Dumont and Sacchi were dismissed. Both wished to be taken back. They had since been connected - by the strongest ties, living together - its the greatest intimacy on the naked mountains of Switzerland; remaining together in this country, aud de liberating on the best mode of serving their employers. .They had no'donbt access to books and stores of learning. They did not boast, indeed, of their proficiency in the English language, bait they rather wished to hare an interpreter, be cause it gave them an opportunity of considering and evading questions. The other witnesses were so numerous that he did not wish to observe upon theirs, but he begged to remind their Linalships what sort of a person ; Duinont was, according to her own description. He slmuid take her own account, and he did not wish for any other. She was a person of .a.romantic turn, she was an euemy to marriage, and she said its her letter . that she did not like mankind its the abstract ; she thought We abstract Of mankind bad, and rather hated men, but still she was the dear friend of Sacchi, whom she described as an Italian Gentlemau. Unfortunately for, her, Sacchi did not return the compliment by allowing her to be a Countess. Sh e loved sweet liberty and in pursuit of that Mountain Nympb:, went to rove among her own hills, never coming forward till Sacchi came to fetch her. She - was, upon the whole, the most perfect model, the finest specimen of the complete waiting maid ever - known. And what, he would ask, could excel the fine -style of her writings? When she wrote, her ideas flowed free amlcorrect—All Witt admirable till she came to her own letters—She had caution which 'night do honour to any cause—she bad circumspection, and in short all'she did was managed with skill, until she was called upon to reconcile/ her letters. Had she not believed those letters were destroyed, her face would no snore be seen in that House, than the faces of-the seventy witnesses shipped off without examination. Her cotivetrient way Of meet lag the difficulties in the letters was the a pplication of a double . entcndre. Sacehi had the - same convenient mode. He, in his letter to Marietti v and stir in her letter to her sister.— Shc' was, asked - very properly by a Noble Lord ) whether she was sincere in those letters ? She said ist soine of then) . st?e was sincere. She , was aske'u..tf she, ,was us rOnt,- set money ? Her answer was. No. Did, she ever tell' her sister . she Was ? Yes, hilt If she ' did, it was -riot ,Itaate. Ttis, • the Lady, considered, no dilllbt swirl. e entendre. Th . eue wits no, difft'reilw,e her . opinion; I.oweeti• aiiilh'ilsAtiod, where 'lie was ; at lowed to • introdnee double etoptdre. It hail • beets said that t h is prevarication must be treetioalted %elect) list. candour wasconsittered--e-slie was wca ivat iog. so 11an.., in her candid tittements, that" the Noble LOrois, jlidges • in that cruse, Must lend their ears to allthe tales a liar - would tell them, although they were sure she did not utter one svurd of truth. They were to say, " pour dear ino , ic.eut Swiss sliepherdess'l hear how artless she tells her tale." In a goes tinit fire the opinion of Judges, he had' never linowo ily•ar gument more extraordinary, than that which urge the can -1 eer of a witness when she was not to be believed. Lolls to her let Uri ; and the more they were looked nt the more their Lordships would find that the explanations of the witness were improbahler the ilotible iittelOres .were not understood, let the letter was intellig,ible. It war all clear within the four corners, but all false when she came to explain it. Then, and . then only, it became doubtful and incredible. Be' entreated. the Lords not to entangle themselves "in the mise rable Webs of 'Minima. 4 plain man would go fairly and strait t brought the'evidence, and see justice shine to the par ties. .He prayed God that the Noble Peers would believe.lla moist innocent and good when she spoke well of the Queen. -She was only false when she was disca aged and not take() back. Then it' was she fell into the hands of one of the conspirators against the Queen. This he collected from her own account of herself. Ile did not-calumniate her. She had a sister of the age of fifteen, and she did all slit could to place that virgin sister tee a house, which, if her statement was trite, ought, in the words of the Attorney 7 General, not to be c4,lled a pa lace, but a brothel. He could not believe any woman so bad. She was innocent of all that he had stated. She (lid right in wishing to get one sister, into the service of the Illus rious Person, and keep liar own situation, but being disgrace fully driven frnm the house, she came to join the Queen s ene mies. The Learned Gentleman then wentinto the evidence of Sacchi, and contended . that his statement was nut woi thy ot credit, He was a groom, and had been a private soldier in the French army; but he was not objectionable on that ac count, his evidence was obviously false. The want of truth on this subject was called a double entendre. His examina tion then tan thus:— Q. Did you ever say that pm were. in a miserable situa tion, anti t hat you taxed yourself with ingratitude tathe best of Mistresses. and Nfished to be restored to.the service pf•the Princess?—A. Never. Q Did von ever say that you were •in a distressed situa tion, Never. Q Were you ever in a situation to require compassion ? A. Never. Q. Did yob ever ask any one to take compassion on you ? A. it may he. Q. Did you never say that von taxed yourself with ingrati tude to the best of Mistresses . ?—A. Never. Q. Is that letter in your own hand-writing Yes. Q. Is that also in your hand-writing ?—A. Yes. The letters (continued the Learned Gentleman) were then read, amithey proved that the witness had taxed himself with ingratitude;' but when he gave the answer to which he had referred, he bad, unluckily for him, forgot that be had done so, or did notlinow that such letters were in existence. It might be argUed; that though he bad written that he taxed himself with ingratitude, yet that he had not said so. But what honest man would shadier and screen himself under this pitiful quibble I—What man of probity would attempt to shel ter himself by saying that he had never said a thing, but that he had written it 1.. And. then he came to a most provi dential accident. He used thele contradictory terms in con fortuity to the usage of the language, and because Provi dence was always watching to, protect that innocence which was its care. Sacchi was asked —" Why did you change your name ?" and he answered, because he had been told of a tu mult wbich had taken place in this country.. Their Lordships knew that•the tumult he referred to was the treatment of the - witnesses against the Queen at Dover. He was asked when he came to England ? He answered, in July; but it turned out not to be July last, which was the time the tumult actually took place, but in July, 1819, twelve months heforethe tninult occurred. These accidents alone formed a protection against such base conspiracies as the present; and hut for which accidents every cne of their Lordships was liable to be con victed to-morrow, The Learned Counsel read a pat t of the evidence, in which the Attorney-General obtained from the witness that he had changed his name in Paris , _ before cant ing to this country. He afterwards said that he came here in July, 1819, but the Attorney-General did not press the point further, well knowing from his experience that he might only make bad worse. Fortunately, however, their ' l ordships did ; and he trusted they would well remember the manner, the confusion, the embarrassment, the per plexity, with which he answered their questions, all bespeak ing the last shifts of a perjured man. At a subsequent pe riod, he was again examined to the change of name, when it was as impossible to get him out of the potential mood, as to bring hint front knavery to honesty. Another part of the evidence on, this subject was then alluded to, in which the witness (said the Learned Counsel) hail then become doubtful on VOat be had before sworn so pointedly. Now it was all mi,ckt where it hail been had, and a Gentleman was said to have called on titre in Paris, with Crause the Courier, who told him that lie might be in danger if he went to Etii4land, tinder his own name, which was known in that country ; Whereas he had before stated ,that he had heard of the tumult at Dover. When he was .pressed upon this part 'of his evidenee iii the cross-i xaminalion, he had recourse to, " I only repeat whit the'Gentleman told me." And he (Mr. Brougham) had never seen a witness brought into a cor ner by his own prevarication and false swearing, who had not adopted the same course. He would deny that any such story could have been told to the witness. it was impos sible that the unknown Gehtleman who came with the well known Grasse could have told it. It was a mere fiction of the brain : it was as impossible that a man should have told such .a thing by chance twelve months before it happened, as it was that he should have written the Iliad by chance. Unfortunately, since that time events had .happened which we now well know and which we should never l'we to say we did not know; and these had rendered tumults about wit nesses, against the Queen familiar to us. But what man, even in his must fanciful mood, could, in 1819 have nn 3 gine'l t hat' such things were likely to take place ? most now men tion that part of the esidence with which Bast alli had also • been connected; for however painful sod disgusting the slight est allusion to it might be, yet he knew! that it could not be avoided: Did their' Lordships think it very likely that any • person in time Princess's situation would di, that which had been represented, openly in the face of day, with a menial servant, and without the slightest covering to conceal them? Would they believe, that with the knowledge that the - courier was travelling beside the carriage, and with the liability to have the curtains opened by hint, she would remain in such a situa ,tion, the discovery of which would blast her character, even amangst the !mist eegrailed beings. But to believe Mr. Sac chi, their crednlity must be stretched malty degrees wide 4. Fur with him this was nothing; if they believed hint, they must believe this conduct to have been habitual! He himself bad seen it continually—at all times, in the day and in the night. This was beyond all credit. The mo abtiodoned of her sex would have 'been disgtisted at it. From time positi on in which thew hands were said to have been, em •'cr such circumstances, who u ' had nothing but a wish to discover trot it, and were even if philosophers were t o co m a for w ard, to say that it was possible to have occurred, he could scarcely' believe it. They were represented to have been travelling. at the rate of ten miles an huts r, over tlft rough roads which were well known in that country, with their hamds, crossed on each other ; yet, in spite of the continued jolting of the carriage, when both had been asleep, and had conse quently lost the power of their limbs,—their bands Still con tinned exactly in the same position. Nate, suppose that he should prove that the carriage in which they were travelling was an English carriage, that the glasses were up, that throe were spring blinds that could onlY'bk opened froai the inside —supposing he should prove this, and supposing he shourd prOve that Sacelii was not time only c ourier in attendance! —They would have more of this. It might be 'asked, why did not he call cm tain witnesses to speak to parti cular facts . Again and ai.oio he' would call on their Lordships never to lose sight of this, for it was a cardinal point, if not the cardinal point on which every thing turn ed, that the accuser in a case like this was bound to Knee guilt, but it was not necessary fur the accused in every in stance to establish innocence. The witness had been asked-- Was any body else in the carriage?" His answ e r was, Non mi ricordo." He wished their • Lordships to observe the caution manifested in the answer thus give„. It might hate been expected that a person telling of w h at pretended to have seen would have well recollected whether o r not any body besides the pm ties Ite bad mentioned had been p r ese nt. It was the first remark that he would have made, and t h e answer therefore whlwhichhe' had given, s eeme d to b e one that the witness had been instructed to mak e .' 'Wh en a per q on. h a d seen what this witness described himself to have observ ed, it might have been expected that he would have told it to some one. W," itvery likely that he would never have c onfided it to the easy, the . willing, and We' g en tl e ' ear o f his so ft - friend Dumont ? He had had opportunities of enjoying her loved society both in Eng!and and abroad for some months; but delicacy no doubt, unknown to other couples, had always pm:hided him from entering cu such a statentetit to her. ,Among the mason:, the carter., the gliders, and all. the:wit tioics. brought to this country,. he could : wit ItAirkcoyitc... to whom ste t haul t4I this sto[y. k, t; that haring sect; w s liitt lie d escriber. • he could liaie:toht it t.o-no one, that baring t old it, tit cunid nut remember to wauin it Was tut fie had t!irly.fo attii,All4.i it ,s.as that th.t ‘l7l)ifit) bAr,ll : itiopipt)rij could hare Kapp; nail, : kle ‘kii*golit`z; into tire' et4iii.tiCe upon this sttltJcct, when , . • Earl CiltEY remarked, the Itiour,4of low, at witich the Hoßs.e liad attired, itvid is; (4.1 to. Lop*. if . ..the. .[.,earned -Counsel" expected. it , ht '. AMU to t.111.5 ' /I ti:itt day it Oie [louse did not tin ipi,tiately - adjourn. • The EAT' of L F.lt PO( lioggii it w.a.s.defrjrahlc to, arljoirrn.a.s ‘ tiearty as possible at tire tio j kr. fixeil upon,, xtlt if a. quarter, ul'ah half an holit. mute citable the Learned Cuiinsel to finish his statement, there could lAl'4O 04- • jection.,,to. his proceeding, ~• , • 'rite tiwit,iit it iprtlossihle for jus tice to - he dune in a case like I hit,, if Coniiscl stivre•liniitt4Fiui it tjuatti - tr of.an .11;01 an. hoa x, or no hour, therefore of opinion it would.iie,well to adititirti. The Hun6e.then Adji.itiroyd . till this day: CORRESPONDENCE REL.VI IVE TO •MR. MAIIIWIZI. (No. 1.) LETTER FLOM MR. MARIETTI THE BLDER, TO HIS EON IN LONDON. Milan, Sept. 16. Dearest Son—l have receive and read your letter of: the 3d instant. Relatively to the threats conveyed• to me. by, Mr. Brown, I Must xepeat to you once more the saute obser vations I then made—that it is expedient to cut short with the great (tagliar carte coi granite). They are always in . the right. You have taken up the• matter with•mtich heat ; in the main you are right, I feel that you are so, but cos have' carried it too far. It is ,true that 13rown has. expressly and repeatedly insisted with Mr. Albertoaits that he should Make known to you the dissatisfaction in tha t quarter towards you, and the danger of 'the Alien Bill which you were going to encounter. nut, nevertheless, fultow the judgment of your father, who knows by experience what is Most expedient, and fur the best, in similar cases : Abandon the object, and allow the controversy thus to terminate, since by persons of mean condition or in inferior rank, as you and 1 are, it is sufficiently well terminated by what has been already done. This instant a Courier has arrived with letters of the sth, and by the paragraph relative to Milan you may' see how completely what Brown said here has been verified. You treated and spoke with the. person alluded to, believing• him quite a different character. I will speak with Peter at his return, as I have to-day spoken with Sperati ;• but what ever happens, what you said is right, that you, Peter, and Sperati, are well known, for persons of sense and character, and very different from that good-for-nothing individual (pal poco di tuono). But the conclusion is, to, keep every thing silent, and to prevent all publicity. 1 salute you, your affectionate Father. (No. 2.) LETTER FROM IR. MARIETTI, THE ELDER : TO COLONEL BROWN. Milatv, Sept. 19. Most. worthy. Colonel—l understood with great concern that: your name has been compromised in. a subject of conversa tion, which was supposed to hare taken place between you and. me !dative to my son Joseph, at present in London. I think, it therefore a duty to declare, as I now declare upon my ho nour, that no conversation ever passed between you and me, , directly on this subject. If the expressions contained in a letter written by me to my son are somewhat strong, that must be ascribed to the affection which a lively interest in.liius• created, and a conformity to the advice I have always given hint—advise tending to manifest the necessity of adhering to the system ad:opted by me, never to mix in affairs foreign one's own business. It grieves me exceedingly that an intepre : tation has been given to my letter oPposite so my intentions, — an interpretation which supplies materials to diseussions irre levant and ill-founded. - My displeasure in this case increases at.seeing that a similar interpretation has caused doubts re garding the good faith of an individual whose di stinguished , and honourable character is known to me by long experience. . I consider you, moreover, incapable of making use of the threats which are attributed to you, as the British Gorey:l7• went is at executing them. In tailing this mode of stating to you the sentiments with which I am animated in the pre-• sent emergency, I experience the sweet satisfaction of ful filling a duty which is incumbent . upon me, and I take the, opportunity of assuring )on of toy perfect esteem. (No. 3.) LETTER FROM MR. ALIIERTVNIO TO COL: 13ROWN. • Milan, Sept. 19. M. Colonel,—lt is with regret, proportioned to the respect whichl bear you, that 1 learn that the sense of 'a letter written by M. Nlarietti to his son has been so ill understood as to have imputed to you the communication of an intention oil the part of the British Government to watch over the latter, and to send him out of England on account of his relations with . Sacchini, a Witness in the case of the Queen. I reinein bert hat you said to me, one morning that I was present Nitta: you on business that you had received a letter from F.ngland, stating the inter ference ' of Joseph Nlarietti in this affair, and that you could not but regard such conduct as a little unwise, and foreign to his oCCOpAtioll in .London. I cannot at the same time forget that I regarded this communicatioo as a simple opinion emanating from yourself , an d ver y far fro m The expression of authority or of menace. As regards what is said on the Alien Bill, of the provisions of which I and norant, it is a duty 1 owe to your character, always frank and, loyal in all respects, to say that you never gave me the least reason to fear for the personal security or the protection of the said Joseph Nlarietti. 1 can add that 1 thtinght it my duty to beg M. Marietti the father, to Write to his lOU to advise him nut to mix in an:4- , fair so fin eign from his occupations, but to restrict himself to. the wise and moderate conduct which has always distinguish-. ed him; and'if in writing to hint his father has made use of strong expressions, they ought in no wise to-be - ascribed to you, Colonel Brown, but solely to the confidence and patona - I atfection,whi6 dictated,t bent. I (No. 4.) • LETTER FROM MR. .31,ARIETTI.7 THE .EL,DER TO HIS, . SON IN LONDON, (NOT .READ YESTERDAY BY., LORD LIVERPOOL IN PARLIAMENT.) Milan, September '2O. Dearest Son,—l am ever the more confirmed in my maxim that it is right to have as little as possitAle. to 1 . () with . We * , great. I must say, that the Government question has two strictly interpreted the letter I wrote'ydu, and 'which has pri sented to The Minister of Police other, motives than those- which really originated it, since it is right to tell you that the , English Government has written an angry letter to Col. BroWn. He (Col. Brown), fVeling himself touch disquietude on thii . acCount, made such an application to Sig. D. Ciceri, and to . Athertonio, that the former begged toe to convey to, the said Colonel Brown a letter of mine:, which in a certain way (in certo goat moth)), might justify. him with his .Govern-; meat filial the too rigorous interpretation given to my. formei - letter. And after having written and re-written, through the medium of the said Signor Ciceri, draughts of such a letter to be shown, the copy which I enclose to your address was fixed upon. You will likewise find Cue copy of a letter which, the said Col. Brown desired front the said Signor ~, l hertonio, who gave me the account contained in the letters forme'rly addiesSed to you. To the honour of Utah I hare rr garded what Colonel Brown .said through the medium of . Signor Alhertonio as all act of friendship, to prevent him froin bring brought into any danger. Nor could 1 ever have imagined that shell a tiling could have been of as much import ance as it has provsd., flowerer that be, to faci:it ate the allay ing of such a controversy, and to preserve amity with all, I thave'thought proper to second it, as yon will perceive by the copy. r,it of They iiy ! 8 wishedto itple s us p ic ion, declaret a h r a , d t firstv i t i t a y ds, , t i e . r d u t • o r t e l c st „ poi); but this I would not alloW, b e cause the having natited COIMIeI Brown in the way I did would have been charged on % i neas a calumnious imputation ; and therefore you will set its my letter seta yesterday to him (Col. Brown) that r mention. iniy:hmt having direct conversation with hint, and derive my information from what lie eatised to be said to me by . .. Sig.. APJettonio. Regolate yourself therefor; in every thing With , the greltri prudence, it order not to incur dile' annoyances .and utile:: dissatisfactions, Which can only produce evil to yosi. • . YOur atiectimate, Father.