The Sun. — London, England, 1855-06-19 00:00:00

I w ay co da P oon" We?' a bout shirts a that ies at truhy rivat 4 -wt loin ° . :0 (1 theta lie ". Si il • he )eb"" 31' 31'• 011 ith COI aide" to tV •t• . is 1 4 6 ;11e° %°' of oion o , c.of °fp volt 'ccoulJ v re e see' cl o ,r o ,l l3 eli t 0 - 0 01 C N, , deal with that important subject, promotions in the army; and as to the second, he thought it had been proved. by Sir 2. Northcote that it would be nugatory. fie denied that Mr. Layard intended by his motion a direct vote of want of confidence in the Government, and, after citing the opinions of official persons as to the effects of patronage in the civil service, be justified the course of action denomi nated "the Goderich pledge," thinking, he said that in the war with patronage the members of that house should Perform their part. The allusion in Mr. L yard's motion to the manner in which family ounnexious were allowed to influence appointments, and to the evils of such influence, he thought justified by circumstances. He admitted that a Minister would encounter great risks in endeavouring to defeat or nullify this influence; he might even be retrieved from his office ; but no sacrifice could be more noble then one incurred in the endeavour to reform and render effi cient the public service. Mr. F. PEEL said, after the statement of the noble lord that the 'speech of the hon. member for Aylesbury had not. yet received any reply from the Government, he hoped the noble lord would not feel surprised, or feel it to be any Want of courtesy towards him, if he passed by the vague speech which the noble lord himself had just matte, and proceeded at once to reply to that pot tion of the speech of the hon. member for Aylesbury relating to the aeueinis tration of the army. By far the greater portion of the hon. Member's speech was confined to criticising the existing System of administration in the army, and he condemned in no measured terms the principle upon which he alleged, but most erroneously alleged, promotion in the army was regulated. Favoueitism, family influence, and every other sort of influence except the right influence, regulate the Patrouaee of the army Recording to the hon. member, and to show that such was theirnpression which the hoe. mem ber's speech was calculated tocreate, lot him recall to their recollection the fact that the hon. member distinctly stated that men who worked hard in the army, cr rendered good service to theielcountry, wereallowed to remain unrewarded instead of being encouraged to pursue the honour able and urs ful career to which they were devoting themselves, while men who did nothing at all, or when they hail the opportunity cf doing something would not avail then. selves of it, were taken by the hand at the Herse Guards and raised to the highest posts in their pro foggier. Now, if the hon. gentleman had contented himself with a general st atement of that sort, he shoul have at once met that statement, which ho should have felt himself perfectly warranted in doing, with a simple con tradiction; but the hon. gentleman chose to plume a dif ferent course. The hon. gentleman followed up his gene ral assertion by going into particular cases ; and of course it could hardly be expected that he should reply to the hon. gentleman the same evening, because he knew nothing whatever of the cases which he cited. The hon. member told them that nut of 90 officers who had been rewarded for distinguished services iu the East, only 7.0 were regi- Mental officers. [Mr. Layard—Ouly 25.]t The hon. mem ber referred to a Parliamentary return to support his erro n, eons statement, but he should have been mo re cautious in his quotations afterhis previous experience in that re oPeet, because although it was Trite true that in the re turn which be quoted there were 60 staff officers and only 3 0 regimental officers shown to have been promoted, it should yet have been observed that the r eturn was made on the 13th of March, just three months ago , while at the fo o t o f th e return there was a note to the effect that , the General Commanding-in-Chief was expecting to receive a further list of the names of majors and captains of regi- Ments who had been engagedin action ar had distinguished themselves in the trenches, and who had been promoted for such services. (Hear, hear,) Now, if the hon. member aspiring to lead the country had been anxious not to de ceive, or to state the case fairly, he wou l d have g one to himand inquired whether the return referred to in the note had been received, or whether the distinctions, which o n the 13th of March last were stated as about being con ferred, had been actually conferred or not. (R ear, hear ) * Within a month or so after the r-turn was made the Ge neral Commanding-in-Chief di l receive that list of regi- Mental officers, and it would be found in the Gazette of the 24 th April last. It was a list of captains promoted to the rank of major, cud majors to the rank of brevet lieutenant colonels, and if that list were added to the one in the re tarn,e it would be found that the promotions had been four ia .""lies as many as represented by the hon. member. (Hear.) " Ls ' e might state, in conclusion, that 64 staff-officers and 135 e lrgitnental officers had been rewarded for their services in the East. The hon. gentlemau had referred to the case of Colon e l Wil son, b u t the real question for consideration in that case was, whether Col. Wilson should purchase his own e a?mtnission, or whether it should have bee n p urchased for Linn by , the relatives of a deceased officer, Col. Mackinnon. (Hear, hear.) Colonel Wilson had put down his name for Porebase in consequence of two officers above him having Withdrawn their names for purchase, and stated that they would take their chance of obtaining promotion by casual tiers. The object of Colonel Wilson was to get over the he ads of those two officers, but it happened that by the & casualties of war vacancies were created by death, and those two officers succeeded in getting their prom otion before volon e l Wilson. The bon: gentleman then addressed !elf to the case ef regimental appointments, and, in inns ‘ration of his meaning, divided the cases into two clastee °as with and the othewithout interest. He named in the first class five officers, four of whom were relatives of Lord liardinge--namely, the Hon. Arthur Hardinge, his son ; ajor Hardiuge, his -nephew ; Colonel Wood, a relative oY marriage; and Colonel Couyngham, his son-in-law. In referring to the case of the Hon. Arthur Ilardinge, the hon. member referred to the existence of an order whereby 6 Was directed that an officer should not be appointed aide-de-camp until lie had served two years, and stated that in the case of the Hon. Arthur Hardinge that' order had not been observed. The order to which the hon. 'nem 'ler referred was enforced at home, but abroad and in India it was dispensed with in the case of the govercor-general's Staff and in the case of the general officer commanding When the army was in the field. With respect to the case of Colonel Wood, he had been assistant quartermaster general at the Horse Guards, and when the deputy quer- s termaster-general became vacant in Dublin, he succeeded t to the vacant office, he (Mr. Peel) would not say according to estabished custom, but in accordance with a course of proceeding for which a great number of precedents could be cited. As to the ease of Col. Couyngham, he might ob serve that he had been acting since the commencement of the war as assistant adjutant-general of the first division of le army, had been present in all the battles, and never was It eent from his post, and in every instance the description appointment recently conferred on him carried with it as step of local rank. The hon. gentleman complained I.tentiocted 4 ills being made a major-general, but it should be that solo el Hardinge was t w enty-five years in the service, and the complaint was inconsistent after the Statement made the other night by the hon. member him self with respect to the ages of the generals in the Penin toiler war. (Hear, hear.) The hon. member then referred t e the case of Captain or Major Selby Stuith to the office a deputy-quartermaster at the Cape. That was not an ap pointment which in all probability Lord Hardinge would have made himself, but in making it he lied yielded to the representations Of General Jackson—the officer responsible for the tranquillity of Cape Colony—and who, in antici pation of Colonel Kloete's requisition, recommended Nejor Selby Smith should he appointed to that office. That officer had obtained the brevet rank of lieutenant, but the hon. member was mistaken as to the effect of that brevet promotion. The hon. member said the first step he had received placed him over the head of the senior major of his own regiment, while the second step placed hi-u over the liutenaut-colonel of his regiment. Now the fact, really v ras, that the brevet rank obtained by this officer did not e !! arty way alter his relation to the regimental officers of tis regiment. fle (Mr. Peel) had now disposee of the first of the two classes to which the hon. member had re ferred ; and ho would now refer to the class that had, ac ordieg to the hon. member's statement, been neg l ec te d for so lone a time. (Hear, hear.) The first case he s t ated was that of Lieutenant Buck, who was one of those officers i t he had suffered from the system of purchase. (Rear , thn) Re had no means to purchase, and had crept slowlyl'ou g h the grade of lieutenant, but he was now senior lie u g h and if his regiment should be sent to the seat a w f war, and raised from twelve to sixteen companies, he ° aid, as a matter of course, be appointed captain of one f the new companies without purchase. The next case to which the honourable member had refereed was the !as' , Of Lieutenant Edwards, who had served in the Pe ninsular war, and been engaged on several occasions. At ,`,Te concl us i on o f th e war Lieut. Edwards was placed on he half-pay list in 1818, and there he had since remained, With the exce p t i on o f a bout seven years, during which be Was on full pay. It was complained that he did n ot g et an 11 ,nattach e d company , and.there was no disposition t o g ive ' fl oi such an appointment when it became vacant; but he tOprehended it would not be for the interest of Lieutenant the to get that promotion, because he is adjutant of .ficcoreing ue recruiting district of Liverpool, and that situation, to the regulations, could .only be held by a lieu tenant. The next was the case of Captain Carruthers, wko h ad been refused a brevet -majority, to which he was re hadd by General Cathcart. He was an officer who ✓ been placed on half-pay in 1818, and, with the excep ta of five years, haul been on half pay , from that time to of i r l ; but in the year 1842 he was appointed brigade-major 'aPetown. fie (Mr. Peel) admitted that it was proba 4:hat when the Kafir war broke out the duties of this or this Were largely increased ; but when at the termination e e is Isar application was made by General Cathcart to - ,;t l 1- lardinge, to confer the honorary distinction of bre vet-major upon him, Lord Hardinge, considering that he L e _ • a 600 miles from the seat of war, and that he rial never in British Kaffraria, thought that such a distinction an • glet rath er t o b e con f er red upon officers personally en gag©d with the enemy, than upon a man .who , ho wever " be had performed his duties, was not it the field. The e lt case to which the hon. member hail referred w as the case of Lieutenant Daniel, and the complaint was that he ass refused an unattached company without purchase'. It t PPeared from a enemorandurn which he had received from th e Herse Guards that Lieutenant Daniel had retired om t i 04th Foot, then in India and about to return home, t a t 'he 75th Regiment, and that he had received, as is cue ef,taa arY in such theniar compensation for making l a e xchange. He came to Englend, and applied fer toeamotion, and it was thought necessary before giving it aia ,,slE for some explanation about the exchange he had eeiv "_°- Lieutenant Daniel admitted that he had re- ie was'!ll a sum of 'money for effecting the exchange, and L a. of course impossible to promote an officer who jeJust made a profitable arrangement with regard to maid® (Rear, hear.) The hon. gentleman also , ta utt, charges with respect to the appointments on the ; 1 He had heard that officers were ou the staff who ,7",1 not received certificates at Sandhurst. Ile (Mr. Peel) to `"" not consider that such a certificate ought of itself to be 1 10 13 11 8 . 1 dered as a satisfactory proof of qualification. The col _• gentleman's next complaint was, that whilst some a , er ulitels of regiments, like Colonels Yorke rand Garrett, . b eeng temporarily in the Crimea as brigadiers, two c). appointed to hold that rank at Malta who had eg,seen any service at all—Coloiieli Williams and Rotnilly. 40 7, the truth was, that one brigadiership was just as , Ii "., 11 8 another, and there was no difference in point of malts appointments did the hon. gentleman suppose that if the a n 4 a te apPointments hail been offered to Colonels Yorke e A „„.eearratt they would have been accepted? Colonel , er ti . P-anes was one of the oldest colonels of his rank in th e e h,"ce, and Colonel Romilly had been filling the office of thie f of the provisional battalion at Parkhurst, one quite gons to the charg n e he ow held at Malta ;he had O • ` -) wls himself a proficient in its duties, and that was the N Z,eY reason w hy h e had been sent to Malta. (Hear.) ci ph regard t o h on o urs conferred by the Commander - in .- Chief, ef, he asked if they bad been given with the object of eo w l aiding such officers as had greatly distingui s h ed them - Selves ? Those honours, in the case of officers of high rank, W ere c olonel c i es the co l one l c i es o f ee giments. He found that four had been conferred since the breaking out of the dis rigs obtained for services performed and c()ttnction obtaired in the campeieu of the Crimea—Sir e s _ l4l Campbell, Sir Richard England, Major-Generals liaelirtinck and Pakenham. (Hear.) Again, how had Lord a u dingo filled up the new companies created by the vagotentation of the regiments of Foot Guards ? It after be admitted that no situations were more sought e eer r than commissions in the Guards, and if there 0 , e Any disposition to abuse patronage there would be an e i'Portunity for doing so in this case. Half the additional tiellinpanies raised. were suffered to go in the separate bat ceeten ; the other half were not given in that way, but -. were from the line were brought is and placed at their heal. (Hear.) In every instance the officers so brought in were persons who had seen good and distinguished sere vies either in India, the Cede, or the Crimea. (Hear.) .He believed be had now gone over every instance alleged .by the hon: gentlemen of the vices and evils of the present system ; he would briefly notice the measures of re form propontded by bin. The hon. gentleman said thee iu the first pla - e we must abol.sh the system of promotion by purchase, a nd he proposed that, as 2,500 of the exist ine commiesions, from Lord Hardmge downwards, lr.d been given without purchase, we should not iu future al low any officer who hurl so received it to sell his commis sion. Ile had given his best consideration to the plan thus suggested, - and he ceuld not see that it could be adopted without affecting vested interests, as the hon. gentleman c ontended. Se pp ese the case of a, lieutenant-colonel wish ing to retire, who had received his ensigney, say 20 years ! before, without purchase. He had been so appointed on the understanding that he would have the opportunity and a I vantage of selling out, if he lived, and he (Hr. Peel) could not see how such en officer could be deprived of the right he had to a realisation of the pecuniary value of the commission without a disturbance of his vested interests. (!-Fear.) The hon. gentleman then said that we must a its. cute the staff, and allow no person to be appointed to it who hail not gone through a certain course of study. He Was not disposed to deny that there was value in that sug gestion, but he thought he might pass it by without no tice, because the point was at that moment under the con sideration of a committee of that house, appointed to in quire into the system pursued at the Military College of Saudhuret, and presided over by the right bon. baronet the member for Portsmouth. The hon. gentleman endea voured to attaibute our misfortunes to the public appoint ments which lied been made, but the report of the com mittee of inquiry inculpated the system, ao.l not indivi duals. He ilia not believe that any one who succee led the Duke of Newcastle in his office would have consented to accept it if he ha.l been tied up from making such reforms as he held to be necessary, and required to exercise, the functions with the same limited authority. Though he c add not consent to the resolutioc. he was as favourable to the appointment of properly qualified men for the public service as i es most zealous adherent could be. Mr.ILDRUMMOND criticised the terms of the motion, which chiefly consisted of assertions which were open to question. In reference to the speech of Mr. Lindsay at Drury-lane, he reminded him of his having been had up for n it having sent out some Australian emigrants with whom he had contracted. He did not mean to enter into that question, but it was not too much to say that the hon. gutleman could not have displayed much administrative agility or he would not have been so hail up. Mr. L +yard h id said there was a run against him in that house, but it wes not the fact. Whateverhe had received he had brought on himself, but ho and his friends had hounded down a Mr. Walker and his frieu Is at Drury-lane, because he did not quite agree with them in opinion. He referred to the adulterations of food to show the purity and innocence of the middle classes, and to the East India Company to ex hibit, the perfection of government—a government by mer cuants, who were wholly guiltless of an . thing like job bery ! He could not see what was to be gained by voting for either the motion or the amendment, for the cry on which they Were founded was a delusive one, which was perfectly unintelligible. Mr. JOHN MACGREGOR, said that the house had lost sight of the true course of proceeding. They ought to act on the lessons of past experience. The Government were ncw in the same p redicamentas their predecessors werefrom 1744 to 1750, wheu the King was compelled to send for Mr. Pitt, whom he mortally hated. lie would take neon himself to tell bold truths, and to " bell the cat" on this occasion. When Mr. Pitt held the seals of office he would not al low any of the offices of the State to be filled by any but efficient men. Since that time the British empire had increased threefold in power and consequence ; and now, who was at the head of the Government? A noble lerd of the greatest ability, and in whom he had the greatest confidence. But he believed that he was not permitted to rule with the freedom and with the power possessed by Mr. Pitt. He then came to the Colonial-office. He believed that thet office was now filled by as able an administrator as aver occupied it. He also believed that the Foreign office had an able head ; and he had also no doubt that if , the right hon. baronet at the head of the Home-office had health and strength lie wont be perfectly competent to manage the :affairs of that department. He now came to India. And he had no hesitation in saying that the coun try was perfectly astounded when a gentleman without a single follower and of no prestige in the house was en trusted with the asiful destinies of India. He believed that the Admiralty would be presided over by the right hon. baronet opposite (Sir Q. Wood) with the same saga city and ability which distinguished his career as secretary. in that department. It was true that that right hon. baronet was not so popular as some other men either in that house or in the country. (Laughter.) But the rea son of that was that lie had too much of the bluntness of an honest Englishman to be either evasive or truckling.. and laughter.) He denied that there was any feel -issee-in the country against the aristocracy, but he could net deny that there was dis9atiefiction at the att..3ati!)a which appeared to have been paid to the claims of con s tnguiuity in the formation of the Ministry, nor that there was an opinion abroad, that the noble lord had been obliged to yield to a superior influence in filling up the great offices of State. There was no country, he was sorry to say, in which the mere fitness of a man for high office was so little considered as iu England. Cel. LINDSAY explained serve inaccuracies into which Mr. Layard had fallen with respect to the promotion of Lord Eastace Cecil and Mr. Blackett. Mr. J. PHILLIMORE thought the principle of corri petition could not be introduced into the civil service. lie was a friend to definite reform, and it was because l;e was so that he would vote against the motion of Mr. Leyard, which had nothing definite about it. Mr. DISRAELI—I should not have deemed it necessary to say a word -in support of the amendment of my hon. friend the member for Hertfordshire, hail it not been for some remarks made in the course of the debate, especially one made by my lion. friend the member for East Surrey (11r. Drummond), who, with the humour in which he ex cels, sneered at the phrase " administrative reform," to which he said he for one could annex no meaning and of which he doubted whether those who used the phrase could favour him with a definition. As I think I was the first who used the expression in this house, it becomes me not to shrink froM assuring him that I think it is an expres sion capable cf definition, ono to which I annex a very pre cise meaning, and one which I think expresses a principle that, if acted on, may be most benetivial to the State. The right hon. gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer di lated upon the improveinents which have for some years been made in the public service, anti did me the honour to acknowledge that dining the period when the Government of Lord Derby were in office they were not remiss in ex ertions to improve the public service. The right hon. geu tletna.n the member for the University of Oxford (Mr. Gladstone) still more amply and liberally acknowledged that during the time the administration of Lord Derby was iu po ver steady and rapid progress—l think those were the words he used—was made in efforts to render the public service mole efficient. Now, I may be permitted to tell my hon. friend (Mr. Drutninonil) that I th uk that such measures are measures of administrative reform. The right hon. centletnan the Chancellor of the Exchequer anil the member for the Universityof Oxford would have the house to infer that in the measures which we adopted, especially e a regard to the departments connected wi'h the adminis tration of Ireland, we followed precedents which had been set before us. I would take the liberty of stating that the course we adopted in issuing commissions to examine into the several departments of the public service was not influenced by these precedents, however reputable. The fact is that, previous to our accession to office, a very significant event had occurred, which had more influence noon our conduct, and must have had more influence upon that of any Government than any precedents which might have been feund in the public onions. Before we arriVed to once the extraordinary scandal respecting the ail minis- . tration of the Customs had taken, place, and the circu-n -stances attending it had been examiried into by a committee of `this house, which made a report, with which no doubt many hon. members were familiar. It devolved upon us - to consider what was the measure which we thought compe tent, iti a remedial sense, to deal with sucha state of aff and which, had our Government continued, would have been almost the first we should have submitted to the house. It was in examining that important subject that our attention was naturally attracted to consider the ed ministration and management of all branches of the public service. It was impossible to resist the conc:usion that the public offices required considerable change, and' that they were not as efficient as a country in the condition of Eng land had a right to require. W e at rived at tho conclusion that the changes associated with what is now called admin istrative reform were changes which were imperatively re quired, and which no Government could long continue without originating and carrying out. Another cause that led us to that Opinion was, that we thought the system of taxation required considerable alteration to render it nine just. To effect the changes we contemplated it was our in terest to have the largest possible surplus. 'therefore we wore anxious to consider whether we could not increase it by making all practical and judiciouseconomies in the public service. We had not long investigated the question before we perceived that efficiency was trio true parent of economy and that in considering what was efficient we should ob tain more surety the economical results and the reduction of expenditure which we deeired to secure. It was with these fe slings that we applied to me noble friend the mem - leer for Buckingham(the Alarq eie of Chandos),and requested him to make that revision of the Irish departments which has been several times referred to in the course of this de • bate. My noble friend undertook that operation with no limit as to expenditure, and only one instruction, which was to render the Irish service as efficient as he possibly could. With these views he, with the present accountant- of the navy, undertook the revision of the chief secretary's office, the Irish Privy Council office, and the Irish-office in this country. The consequence of the reforms effected was to place these offices in the most efficient state, anti at the same time to obtain a reduction of expen diture to the amount of 25 per cent. After that experi ment, and after due consideration, the .Government of Lord D:Tby resolved to bring under the consideration of the house, as soon as it was iu their power, the whole ques tion of administrative reform. .On this occasion I am most careful not to speak of the mere intentions of the Govern ment. I am not now pretending to express to the house what was all we intended. I scrupulously confine myse f to measures of which, tee the organ of the Government, I had eicen notice in my place in this house. It was our intention, as I then stated, after tke measures we were thee cincerned with were settled—if they had been favour ably settled—to have brought under the consideration of the house the whole question of administrative reform, with the view of rendering the public administration of the and the public service in all de omreoreefficeoinensotnant with the requirements of the stil:tlsrould have . stated the e reforms which we thought scla3:63:oerut.nultelfelyntake place in time civil service, and that we had re commended her Majesty to issue a royal commission to in quire into the con duct of all the public departments of the State, and from the report of that commission we should have drawn those regulations which we thought were neces sary to effect the regulations, and ahou'd have hail th em Sanctioned and enforced by an act of Parliament. Lista:dm; to the alterations which have been devised on all sides, it app ears t o me that it isthecouthrseefi‘r yshtitchbisnhgowuledwhaanyte is to ceded all suggestions; because leern bow the public service can be carried on in the most efficient manner. I think I have shown that there is some thing definit e t o be associated with the phrase "adminis trative reform." Had we remained in office, we should have hail the honour of introdueirg two measuresof administrative rename which have been sanctioned by the Government which followed us. One was the measure for the better ad ministration of the Customs. Surely the hon. member for East Surrey will not pretend that the measure which was Selopt.d in regard to the subject was not a measure of " administrative reform." Another measure of " atleninis trative reform," for which the country was indebted to the clo;rernment of Lord Derby, although we had not th e ho nour of passing it, is the he gross revenue of th e country i s to be pa id i n to the Ex chequer--a measure of measure in acco rdance with which which rhadgivenli o tioe, and which succeeded the right bon, gentleman wh o curried with our assistance through this house. That is a measure of reform, .because without it you could never have hied a complete public account, without which all'adnainietrative reform must be illusory. Therefore, I have shown that this phrase is one which, en ear as I anti those with whom I act are concerned, is associated with praetieal measures of great advantage to the pubic, which ought, in my opinion, to receive a much larger development than has hitherto been promised. Io the course of this d&eate we have heard a great deal aleent chenges which ought to be introduced into the civil service of this country. I should be very sorry if fora moment I could be induced to defer to a pdblic cry which I did not believe to be justified, or if I could under such circumstances be induced to express any opinion on this subject which I was not prepared to express.. nearly three years ago in a much more responsible position. I scrupulously refrain from expressing oa this subject other opinions, it I entertain them, than those which I was then prepared to produce for the adoption Of the house. I was then of opinion, and have since had the opinion confirmed, that great changes are necessary in the civil administration of this country. In the first piece, I am of opinion that the , entrance into that service should not be by mere favouri tism. I thick it should be the subject of a substantial and real test of fitness ; and I think the idea of a subst a nt i al and real test of fitness is not illusory, but essentially prac tical. I think, in the second place, that the rewards of our public civil servants should be on re higher scale. (Hear.) I think that the result of the change will be public eco- 1 nomy, and not increased expenditure. I think that the 1 rewards of the public servants should not be merely of a fixed nature, but that they should be trained to look upon 1 .other and more spiritual rewards which animate and en- i Amble the conduct of men. lam also of opinion thatethe civil service of the country ought to be made, and must , : be made, strictly and completely professional, and the ! great offices of the State should bo reserved for public ser- , vents who have been trained and educated in the perma nent civil service. (Hear, hear.) These are what I think :sound and judicious changes. They are changes of admi e nistrative reform. They are changes which I think every , Government ought 'to adopt and carry out, and nothing shoat of this ought to satisfy the house. They are changes : which I advocate, not in deference to any popular clamour, but which I was prepared to advocate when it was difficult sae i to get the house to adopt such a recommendation. 'The result of these changes, in my opinion, would have been an improvement of the public service, a gre it atlean twee to the country, and a prevention of much of those 1 evils of maladministration which we have had recently to lament. (Hear, hear.). Sir, I am still of opinion that, although you may by these changes elevate the tone of the . public service, although you may obtain a high degree of talent, although you 'nay reward in a becoming manner that high degree of talent, although the general reeulte of that change will be satisfactory, salutary, and successful - still the first stop which you ought to take is to obtain from high authority a clear and distinct idea of the most efficient manner iu which the public service can, in all its , deeartments, be conducted, and when you have obtained I that, you ought to devise the means by which that ideal 'can be carried into effect. Sir, I know no mode by which this information can be obtained but by issuing n royal com mission of practical men—of men who have arrived at high posts in the civil service—who have sho we great ad ministra tive talent, mixed and blended, as all such commissions should be, with a certain portion of the political experience and statesmanlike ability which can be found in the house of Commons. S:r, lam persuaded, if the commission which we had meditated—if the co omission hal been formed of 1 such individuals as we should have resommended her Me - I jesty, much of the evils which we have had to deplore ! would net have occurred. With these views, which those with whom I act were prepared to carry into effect a long time ago, I am called on to-night to consider the motion of the hoc. member for Aylesbury. That motion, as I read it, is one which, far from embodying the policy which I would recnumend the house to adopt, is ono which very indifferently meets the wants which I have indicated to the house this evening. It calls on me also to assent tot n assertion which I most sincerely cannot give my assent to. I um called upon by the resolution to agree that the ineffi ()limey which we all deplore is attributeble to the manner ire which merit and efficiency is sacriecel in public ap pointments, to party and family interest, and blind ad herence to routine. I think I have shown to-night, and on other oceiesioae, that I am no blind adherent to routine in the publ.ceitliees. lain conscious I thick of deficiencies and failures, and I am prepared to remedy them if oppor tunity offers by any measure equal to the occasion; but I cannot agretethat the disasters of the 'country have been occasioned by a bliud adherence to routine in the public service, or by any want of administrative talent or defi ciencies in the public offices. It is more than possible, I think it is quite possible, that the public service maybe improv d, and much of its routine modified and altered, bat I should be expressing what I do not believe if I at tributed to the paella service disasters which I can only attribute to a culpable Ministry—(cheers)—to a Ministry which the House of Commons, by an overwhelming ma jority, only a few mouths ago declared incapable, and which a report this evening such as never before was read in the House of Cumulous, statue, as the result of the mature in vestigation of men selected with no reference to party opi nien--of some of the most eminent men of this house— that they sanction the former verdict of the house. (Hear.) It would be a miserable subterfuge in the last degree to say that the misgovernment of the country is the consequence of a few inadequate c erks-(hear, hear)—and that unless the. routine of the public offices be altered—although no one is more conscious than I anon of the improvements of which the public service is susceptible—l say it woul tbe base hypocrisy to attribute to it the c tuses of those disas ters, when an overwhelming majority of the House of Com mons, when a committee of the house, after a period of almost mien ecedeeted investigation, has declared that they are the coesequences of the incapacity (Stile Government. (Cheers.) 1 attribute these disasters, as the house and a great poi Mon of the nation does, to the existence of a Cabinet which, although formed of men of great ability and political experience, was not bound together by public sympathy, and reciprocal and private reg trd, which are essential to render any Cabinet a successful administration. irrespective of all other cunsideratiuLs I think it most unwise, by supporting such a inn' ion as this, to use it as a mums of conducting from a Government which ought to be responsible, and of which every member wili sooner or .later be inede responsible - I say IS is most unwise to use such a motion as a means of con luting 1 üblic indignation from a Government whicm has yet to answer for deeds of failure and disasters which it has coneunimeted and secured to itself... (Hear, hear.) This being the case, the hon. baronet the member for Herds (Sir E. B Lytton) has proposed a resolution which in my opinion accurately ero oodi,s what this house ought to feel on this subject. It does not coat° forward and in exaggerated language tell you that all the misgovernment and misconduCt which has so st , ldened the spirit of the country fur so long a period, is t , be attributed to a system of administration which has prevailed for so long a time, and which, with all its shortcomings, has accomplished so many successes, and achieved so many glories. (Coeers ) It does not come forward with assertions which cannot be p, eyed iu any way, and ask us, in deference to popular clamour, to sanction such a declaration with our vote ; but it expresses, in lan guage which I think is definite and precise, in language which I Wink will be justified by proof, and will be sanc tioned by the house, and meet with the mature approbation of public ()pillion — which states the real state of affairs, and what the real wants of the country do indeed require. It calls for a careful revision of the various establishments of the country, and it tells us the views with which that careful revision ought to be conducted ; it tells us the ob jects which that careful revision ought to attain—namely, to simplify and facilitate the transaction of public business. That is precise, and that is adfninietrative reform. Let time remin i the hon. member for Surrey (Mr. H. Drummond) that it tells US to institute a judicious test of a erit—that we ought to remove obstructions to fair promotion and legitimate rewards. Is tells us that we ought to secure to the State a large available proportion of the energy anti talent of the country. These are rezornmendations to which I give my entire adherence, and which precisely ex press the course which the Government of Lent Deroy was prepared to recommend. If you pass this amendment— and I am told it is to be passel with the assent of Govern ment—let the house be careful that this amendment, if taken by Government, is not used as a mere machine to avert from them the consequences which would resultfrom c irrying the motion of the hon. member for Aylesbury, but that the Government take it in the spirit of sincerity and truth so imperatively recommended uy the House of Commons. (Hear, hear.) Let the Government be pre pared, if they adopt it, to act on it in the spit it of truth. I say, if Government act in that way, they ought to take the same efficient steps that we were prepared to take, in order to ascertain how the public business and all the pub lic offices can be carried on iu the most efficient wanner. They ought to issue a commission, and from its report draw up tegulationi for the conduct of the pubic offices, and to call upon the House of Commons to sanction these regulations by an act of Parliament, and, above all, to preserve every public office from the caprice and wilful ness of any political chief who may be placed at its head. I am net prepared to recommend any meesures but in the spirit in which I have spoken ; and if we obtain that which I have ventured to sketch to-night, you may rely upon it that great advantages will accrue to the country ; but let those advantages be obtained with the utmost respect to the existing institutions of the country, and in a manner which need not alarm the most timid. Ido not pretend by any fanciful machinery you can entirely destroy the evils consequent upon what is celled favouritism or the exercise of patronage. Sir, I think when you have to consider Uri, subject you must place any evils which may result from the exercise of patronage as thv countervailing evils of having power exercised by those who are reel) msible to responsible representatives of a free people. The countervailing advantages are in my mind so preponderating that I would not' risk them for what may by only a fanciful, and, p..rhips, Utopian result. Sir, if you secure, as I believe you may secure, that the entrance ' into the public service of this country should be sought, not by the least competent of a family, but by the most couipeteut in it—(hear, hear) —if you make the qualifica tion for that entrance the fitness which is the result of in - telligesuce and the moral qualities which are requisite—if you do this, and in addition to this secure to the success ful aspirant an honourable and sufficiently remunerative professional career, you may rely upon it that the men who enter into the civil service will ee equal to the occa sion and to the opportunity. Entering by merit, they must rise by merit ; but the judges of merit in the higher walks of the service must be the Ministers of the Crown, and it must not be left to any fanciful system of competi tion—(Hear, hear)—which Ithink is utterly foreign to the manners, customs, and genius of a country like our own. (Hear, heor.) Why, sir, when I hear of public appoint ments tieing made independently of the Ministers of the Crown, I am bound to ask myself what is the meaning of a Minister of the Crown if he is not to appoint the most fitting men to public employmeats. We are not told thumb Mr. Pitt said to eceuebody whose name is never mentioned that tie had never in the course of his long political cereer put the right man iu the right place. We heard the t o other day that a deceased Prime Minister, whom we all - recollect, was afraid to open a letter lest -he should hear of the death of a bishop. That I believe. has been mentioned as the feeling of a pure and patriotic spirit, but I look upon it as the trait of an indolent and• epicurean mind. (Cheers.) WhY, sir, what is the first qualification of a Prime Minister ? It is not Ministerial talent, for ho has to look out for Ministerial talent in all his colleagues. It is rather the perception of character and the knowledge of mankind. It is the duty, and one of the highest duties, of a Prime Mini-ter, to take care that the country has pions bishops and wise judges, and in the highest offices of the State the most able and qualified men to discharge the functions of these offices. I say that is the (nest important office which the Prime Minister can exer cise, ant that is one of the chief reasons why he exists. I say that you may render, as you ought to render, the en trance into the civil service of the country a step only practicable to those who are really competent to enter it, tnd that you may have, as you ought to have, in my opi iiion,'a complete and efficient test of fitness from a properly qualified and independent board of examiners; that you aught' to render the civil service a complete profession, end to offer to it not only those rewards which are offered in all other professions, but those rewards, of another and a higher character, which induce men to exert themselves, and reward them for such exertions; that you ought, above all, to take care that the, groat places in the civil der' THE SUN. LON.DON TUESDAY EVENING, vice are secure 1 to those who have been trained iu it. With these conditions, I say you must leave the exercise of the patronage, as it is called—that is, the choice of the fitting instruments cr the choice of the right 111 , i/1 —sort intact leave it, I say, to the men in eallitent,positions, who only occupy those positions for the purpose (if selectimi r the •umst fit ting persona, anti of eakiug care that the best ehalithel shOulei be secured to the service of the State. I have vett ' Sured to-eight, in no spirit of boastfulness, but. with some desire to de justice to those who acted with me ie 1852, to vindicate the course we would have taken in that matter. I think I have a right to exact from the Government some assurance and some security that we should at least obtain as much, and that if they do shield themselves feom the injurioue and inconvenient consequences of motions from administrative reformers, ley adopting the wise and judi cious amendment of my honourable friend, they wilt act on that recommendation, that they will not treat it as the convenient motion of the hour, but that they will take it are a recommendation of the House of Commons, definite and precise, on a subject of the highest impel tance, and that we shall feel that that recommendation will bear speedy fruits for the acceptance of the country. lam bound to express my opinion; that so far as I can form one fruits the conduct of the Govern-rent upon this matter, my expec tations until this debate toter place were nut or a very san guine character. I do uot'see in the Government, from the manner with which they have conducted themselves with regard to this matter, any evidence that they are preoared to act in the spirit of the policy which this aniendineut that they are about to adopt would recommend them im mediately and amply to follow. We have had one motion huniedly and hastily brought forward.with regard to the consolidation of the military offices. I think my honour able friend the member for Hertfordshire acted with great discretion iu not mixing up. that vast subject with that of the civil service of the country ; but, this is the only mea sure of administrative alteration which the Government have thought tit to recomMend to us; and, so far as I can form an opinion upon the.subject of this pLsn, it appears to Ills to be crudely and hastily adopted. (Hear.) They are the recornmendetione of bygone days with little refer ence to the dearly-bought experience of the present ; and I have yet to learn that the Government will be able to prove to the country that the alterations which they re those who have carefully lse n : s:liiti thought umi'€llee l lthev es u p lAil o i seu°cuhnuaesnwdiltir arc such exigencies, or is aps , r t o tt b e e r t . ion ßu o t f if I look to the civil service of the country, I see less to approve of in the conduct of the Government. A few days upon this back there were thews places in the civil service of the country disposed of, of the highest class; and I find that the three gentlemen appointed to those places, who lacy Lo men most competent for the discharge of the duties of their respective offices, were none of them trained in the civil service of the country—(hear, hear) — amid-I venture to say that I should have no difficulty in writing down on a piece of paper a dozen gentlemen fully competent to fill those or any other offices in the civil service. Nome of these gentlemen have been 25 and 3.lyears, amid some even more, toiling in the public offices of this country, the mainstay of Ministers, the columns upon whom we lean in our distress, whose devotion, whose as siduity, whose intelli gence , lose acqu Temente, and whose unwearied industry no language of mine can attempt to paint or describe. (Hoer.) Why, what must be the feel. jugs of those mete when they find that when an opportu nity,occurs to place them in an eminent position in the pro. fession which they have embraced, and so sedulously and so zealously pursued, and to mit% them into the light of day, her Majesty's Government passed them over in silence, and that three infividuels, whose fitness I will not con test, for that has nothing to do with the question, but whose fitness di.i not exceed their own, are preferred to them, adopted by the Government, and that their names are circulated throughoud time country, not only depriving the faithful servants of the civil admini,tration from their due reward; but intimating that that service cannot sup ply the public wits men eomp stout to fill places in it which become vacant. (bear) Ihwe no doubt Mr. Howell is quite comp, tent to discharge the functions of his office ; but what is s ippert to Ministers is death to the civil ser vice of the country, and I say that is an appointment of which this house ought to express its disapprobation. I shall not speak of the middle cle.ses as the hoe, member for Surrey has done. I shall leave him a 'mouopoly of the caustic vagaries ite which he shale— (a laugh) —but if he had taken this case of Mr. }foetal', and if he had come for ward and vindicated a ine:ul class in the country he would have done more service than by indulging iu the airy corn- Monts with which he has favoured us. 1 see a gentleman win; appointed the other day, as accountant 7 general to the Secretary of State for War, who has been 4i years in the public service, and who is admirably qualified for his of fice. Well, a gentleman, after forty years of service, and who posse ureas qualities which cenout.probably be rivalled in this country, is appointed accountant-general to the , Minister of War, at a less _salary than one of those strangers to whom I have referred, who have been recently introduced to the public service. A stranger receives 1,50 J/, a-year, ant M . Smith receives 1,2001 I say if the Goveinment were situ:ere in the opinion they were about to take shelter under, that the civil service of this country ought to be recognised as a great profession, these aepoiutinents, which have boon nestle within the last few days or weeks, could not have taken place. (Cheers.) What are the intentions of the Government? The Chancellor of the Exchequer has spoken in this debate ; au I I was unable precisely to ascertain what he intends to announce as the policy of the Government. He treated this as a motion of want of confidence. Now, I say this in a friendly spirit--(a la ughl —he is a gentleman highly respected in this house ; he is a scholar and a man of.amiable character ; but he is not experienced iu P.erliameut, and in the present state of ti) Government I think it nowise to make those declaratious. If the noble lord (Lord Pahl - 101.8We) had known the excitement which prevailed on those beaches after that declaration he would have beenalartned. (Laugh ter.) I must confess that her Majesty's Government are in a very peculiar position. The other day I brought for ward a motion of very mill censure, preliminary to the holidays. (Laughter.) They immediately declared it, was a vote of want ilcouffilence, and a greet number of gentle. men who agreed with the motion voted against it. (A Laugh.) And new we are authoritatively informed that tins is al o a wait of confidence ; but even if this be de feated by our eid, still 3 o.t are iu this unworthy posit on, that if you put the to o minorities together, there is a great majority of want of coufidence in the Goveruin nt. (Laughter and Opposition cheers.) I think the Gevern ruent ought to coo-ider the areGruerivrkrauteepriot condemnedsit.io by in which t t h he e y la a r r g e es P. t b‘ u c l e aj d o . rit l ; u :i y ine ev , )r was heard in the House of Commons, and by the longest report that was ever pro duced in the same assembly. lam bound to acknowle the favourable position in which the Chancellor of the Ex- chequer and the President of the Board of Control hold in this respect. They are tam only two of the Ministers in whom the country leas not expressed 3 want of couridence (Alaugh.) I thirds it is a great thing for the noble lord at the head of the Government to come forward and say, `• There are two members of the Cabinet whom the House of Commons has not condemned." (Laughter.) What did the Chancellor of the Exchequer say with regard to the amendment of my hon, frienit the member for Hertford shire ? I understood him to say there was no harm in the motion,, but it depended upon its interpretation and that if the interpretation of the motion was one unfavourable to the Government then the Government would not-take it. Now, any Government that ren lens it necessary for the House of Commons to tell them what to do, or what course they ought to pursue, can satrcely consider such a part in the Opposition as a compliment. (A. laugh.) On the contrary, if it be the sincere opinion of the Goverpinent that the policy recommended by the hon. gentleman ought to be pursued, they ought long age to have taken a course which mould have shown that they had discounted, as it were, the demands of the people —(hear)--and they ought to have been able to rise in their places, and, to have said, "We have had a great deal to do; we have conducted la borious negotiations, which have not succeeded; we have not had time to master the large and comprehensive mea sures fcr the remedial administration of the great offices, which are necessary; but we have given evidence to the House of Commons of our disposition in this respect. Look at the last appointments we made a few weeks ago (A laugh)—see how we selectee! from the permanent civil service of_the country, that we are always paying with very fulsome praise, three men who ite the lung course of our administrative life we have found the mast ca pable and ill rewarded persons in the public service." But the Chancellor of the Exchequer, said more than that. He referred to the O r d ers i n Council, and said— " All that has beau recommended of a practical nature has been anticipated by the Orders in Council." Now, I do not quarrel with the Orders in Council. They are not equal to whet I could with them to be, but I take them for what they are worth, though they are only a email part of that which the must moderate of those who fuel the great intere-ts of our civil service would repire. The orders in council give no security for the purely professional charac ter of the civil service, nor do they secure to the permanent civil servants of her Majesty the enjoyment of the great prizes of the profession in waich they toil ; and, therefore, when the right hon. gentleman wants tie rile off on the orders in council, and consider them as a practical solution. of the difficulty, then I say that I am not satisfied myself, and:more thaa that, that the right hoe. gentleman has not distinguished any excepting the amendment of the hon. member for Hertfordshire. Sir, there is ono topic that I cannot help touching on up en this occasion before I sit down. I have referred to what were the intentions, and not only the intentions but the measures which would have been immediately brought forward by the Govern ment of Lord Derby in 1852. I yomember, sir, on that oc casion, after we had felt it our duty to resign, that a dis tinguished person e who was a political opponeut, regretted our resignation of office at the time. Ile said he was very sorry ; it was not necessary for us to go out at that time. I believe we were to have been turned out at Easter, and we anticipated that move by going out at Christmas. But this eminent person said why he deplored our fall, which he wished to retard. He Lehi, what could be done for a sot of men who based the policy of their Government on such an incomprehensible crotchet as administrative re feree] ? I have often remembered that incident since. I believe our sympathising friend is now in a responsible position, awl I have no doubt has become a very worthy administrative reformer. I can not help remembering the circumstances under which he retired from office. It was impossible at that tie - to that we could have remained with honour in Mice, because, from the moment we accepted that trust, the noble lord the member for the city of London pursued, us with such unceasing combine tious to eject us from office that it was a hopeless task from the first to attempt to remain in it. Considering, sir, that the noble lord had retired from office in 185/, that he had resigned office in 1852, and that in no case had his retire melt or his resignation been occasi one d b y the conduct of the Opposition,but by the distrust of his own friends and by quarrelsaud misunderstandings with his owl colleagues ; considering that Lord Derby in 1851 hail refused to accept the responsibility of office, because that office without a majority , in the house of Commons was a position which he ought not to fill;, considering that the noble lord him self had recommended her Majesty to send for Lord Derby, I have always thought that for a constit u ti on al po liti c i an like the noble we l e o e l d it ee N e V e 7 t t t h h e e t ne rt o ei s t t ‘ e v x h t i a e •a h or v, iL e in t a e r e y k, t u h h in s g e: his own Government t w i ce crum bl e d away, b tlh "e ita f e o Ll r yb e eb f feo c cr o ae t u ttl e l stand an election in my county and take my place in this house to attempt to conduct its business, the noble lord had absolutely railed his friends together, and was then making bidding% for support to eject us from the position to which we had been called. (Hear, hoar.) Now I fissure thaesnliotbaleegolnersdont haantdladsoevneonttuseadkeevetihoapte:ebit ser va time with t t h l e ie no sl b i l g e h l t op e lo s .c t iin i ta • e ta g t r znh e too moral. e s what r i ihn a. is past, a p wc a oa s l t ion , e e h o u lte t r . is f possible l aeiubnce politics to ing, by which the Liberal party was to be reconstructed, and we, who had taken the reins of power because the noble lard was on two occasions incornpetentto hold them, to boiled& l as soon as possible from the office which we cer t a i n l y h a d not coveted with any eagerness? Why, th e no bl e l or d called every section of the Liberal p ar t y to his house in Chosham-place. There was the school of M anc he s t er , w ith th e unanswerable eu l s t w e f e o r i a . a vigilant and justifiable ambition ; th ere were a l l t h e Ad ministrativer — o Radical e p r ) r h p e l o r e wore s _ell the m en o f Spartan virtue, who on l y entere d pu bli c In h l e e r s a s i s n e r t t e h r e s ou shell—(laughter) p l ,ifs to assert a principle, and never would take office but to carry it into aucceaftil ezecution, ; ,,There they all were, JUNE 19 185 ' an immense crowd ; and if they had only supported the noble lord sines with the same unanimity as they showed at that meeting he might still have been Minieter. It,wes a meeting of men repentant for a deed which, when it wes executed, filled them with some alarm. No .v, what was the address of the nobled art When . the new government was hardly swore i -a Goverment,- reapan bar, that ontly, threw themselves into °film front the‘failnreof the nobl e lord to retain it? The noble lord seid'hiesineerely deplored all that hail occurred ; he regretted the want of :good iro, tolligence there had been in the Liberal party ; ho said he wag willing to take to himself the greater part of the blame of that want of intelligence, and of that little good under standing ; that there had been complaints that the Govern ment hid been 'constructied on tso narrow a basis ; that he was not disposed (now the Government was upset) to qnarrel with that definition ; that, profiting by experience, he could assure them that if the whele Liberal party would be again unanimous in supporting him, there should be another hroeil-bottomed ; that the area in future should be extended, the basis should be as wide as they liked, that the men of the people should find themselves in the council chambers of the Sovereign, and that all they hail to do to achieve those purposes was to terminate as soon as 'possible the administration the noble lord hail lii.nss.lf receni mended to her Msjeety. Observe what has happened. You turned us out of oiiiee when we were about to give you a conscientious administrative reform-(ironical 'cheers and I %righter from the ministerial benchss.) Have yon now got it? Yon tarried us out of office when .you were in a state of profonad peace, and I declare. my solemn conviction that our leaving office has entailed upon you the state! of war in which you now are. (Hear, bear.) But if yon have lost your administrative reform, what have you eainral ? A dangerous, not to say a disestsons 'war. 'Where is the Government on a broad basis 'which you have secured? Where is the Administration on so extended beeis which you were promised ? Where are the men of the people in the council chambers of the Sovereign? Yon have not only lost what you might have gained, Lot you have gained what you might have avoided. You have gained a Government formed nn the most excluidve basis, and the principal occupation of your future career will be to vote confidence in the men who take every opportunity to treat you with the contumely you deserve. (Cheers.) Lord PALMERSTON said that, before he adverted to the motion before the house, ho must say a word or two personal to himself with reference to accusations which were brought against him by the honourable member for Aylesbury at the meeting which took place at Drury-lane. The honourable gentleman was pleased to say, in the speech which he then made-on an occasion with regard to which it might be said that there were many persons represented as having been present who were never there atall-(hoar, hear, hear) -and that so far from its being a meeting for public discussion, it was arranged.that only the persons who convened the meet ing should speak-the hon. gentleman sail, as reported in the papers, speaking of him (Lord Palmerston), that this was the only time he had seen a man jesting upon the sufferings of the peoplo-(hear, heir)-and making light of their unfortunate condition-( hear, bear)-and this, too, he sad, was done at a moment when Europe was looking to the British Parliament for an example of wisdom, order, an I liberal government; and then he added that he must acknow ledge he had never seen Lord Palmerston in earnest except when lie was vilifying the people of this country. (Hear.) Now he (Lord Palmerston) was unwilling in that house to make use of any expressions which should be contrary to its rules ; but the hon. member having made that charge in public, he, equally in public, and to his face, told the lion. member that there was not one word of truth in the asser tions that lie then made.. (Loud cheers from all parts of the house.) Ho never jested at,the sufferings of the people (hear, hear)--he never made light of their unfortunate con tlition-(hear, hear)-and, so far from ever having vilified the people of England; the whole course of his conduct through life, in every ward which had fallen from his lips in that house or elsewhere, attested the respectful admiration which he felt for the People of this country, and the pride with which he was animated at belonging to a nat:oe so noble and so distinguished. (Cheers.) He wondered that when the hon. member made that statement a blush of shame did not come over his face -(eheers)-at making charges which his conscience, if it ever spoke to him at all -(laneehteee ought to have told him were utterly and diametrically the reverse of the truth. Ho would say no more of the Drury lane private theatricals, (Cheers and laughter,) The motion they were called upon to discuss, expl a i ne d by th e speec h of the hon. member for Aylesbury, had turned upon the army. upon the diplemacy s and upon the civil service. He won lere 1 the hon. member did. tot in his speech at all diseatsi that question which. upon former eiceas!ola had been made so much of--the composition of the Government. That the hon s membdr entirely omitted.' With 'regard' to the composition of thaGovernment, he was alone - responsible for it. He received the commands of his Sovereign to submit • to her the list of persons who should form the Goveinment. He was led by no family connexions. There was not a man of the Government that was related to him by any, family conneixon. He looked oat for those men who, being the. most distinguished by their experience and talents in public life, as proved by their Parliamentary conduct, were most in agreement with himself in their public principles, with whom he felt it most likely that be should be able harmoniously to act, and by whose assistance the Government could be most efficiently carried on. Therefore, the charge of the Govern ment being constructed on family or .personal considerations was a charge which the very existence of the persons at the head of the Government entirely and completely disprove 1. With regard to all those charges which the lion. member hail made with regard to the administration of the army, as his hon. friend the Under Secretary for the War Department had gone through them one by one, and had entirely disproved every assertion which the' hon. member had made, he (Lord Paltnerstonl thought it unnecessary to troulde the house with anything further on that subject. With regard to the matic arrangements, he was really surprised to hear what f 'll from the hon. member, for the hon. member was critic'sinr that department in which he himself was for a time empleve.l While the lion, member charged the Coverament with a eye temetie disregard of talent, and of a dogged adherence to rou tine and favouritism, he himself was allying proof of the hood of that charge. Why - was the hoe, mei - rib e. termed Un der Secretary for Foreign Affairs? Was it from family fa vouritism, routine, or connexion ? Was it not because ti e noble lord the Secretary for the Colonies -acting entirely upon what he had - heard of the talents awl - energy Of the hon. member, which no one will dispute, whatever they may nil* of the discretion of his conduct-ofrcred him that office, and proved,. in so doing, that in the conduct of the Government regard is paid to merit, and that thoso who aro responsible for the great public departments of the state do to al: out for pee- • sons whom they think capable of rendering. good service to the couutrs. It was said that none hut the aristocracy were employed in the diplomatic service, and two names hal been selected.by the hon. member as examples, that all who were connected with that service were p 'era. But what peers were they, and how came they to be peers ? Loril Stratford de Redcliffe was not made an ambassador because ha was a poll.. but lie was made a peer because lie was an ambassador, and the coronet which now adorned his brow was the reward of a long career of honourable and useful service rendered to his country. (Cheers.) Then, again, there was the else of Leal Cowley. That peerage was conferred upon the distinguished father of the present ambassador in Franco towards the close of a long and honourable life spent in the service of his coun try, and the peerage had descended to a Ron who had most ably served the Crown, and had proved himself a worthy nephew of the Duke of Wellington and the Marquis of Welles ley. The lion. member had also referred to the sta'o of the consular establishment in the East. But when the hon. mem ber was in the Foreign-office why did lie not himself put an end to the system ? Ho brought with him local knowledee.and personal experience, and why did he not recommend to his chief some alteration in that state of affairs? Another cem plaint was that there was no promotion in the consular service. His reply to this was that he held in his hand a list of the present consul-geuerals, hardly one of whom• had not risen to their position from the post of vice-consul or consul, and almost all of them had risen from inferior positions in the consular service. (Cheers) The hon. member also in tale some personal reflections upon the noble lord the present mi nister at Florence. That nobleman had filled high and im portant offices of state in this country, and it was an unwor thy effort on the part of the lion, member to intimate that ins was not competent to die Irarge the duties of the office which he holds. (Cheers.) With respect to the civil service, on which the greater portion of this debate had turned, the right hon. gentleman the member for Backs had informed the house of all the great plans which his Government had in tended to carry into effest if it had pleased Parliameut to allow then to do so. We know how broad is that pavement which is said to be paved with good intent ions --(a lu , gh)- and the intentions of the Government of which the right bon. gentleman formed a part would, no doubt, have extended over a 'considerable portion of it if they had been allowed to lay them down. Now it was very strange in connection with those reforms, that whenever a thing was not done' it*was always magnified and considered of the utmost importance. No sooner, however, was a thing done than it was usual to exclaim, " Lord have mercy !- what is the value of that- (a laugh)-we want you to invent something-to do something that nobody ever thought of-to find out some evil that had never been conceived, and provide for it sonic remedy which no human ingenuity ever discovered -do this, and thee we will say You are a Government deserving the confidence of the country." (Laughter.) Now they were told that it w s important to appoint qualified young men to discharge the duties connected with the civil service. At present in many offices a very rigid examination was instituted, and young men constantly rejected for not being able to puss the exarni netion. A young man whom I myself recommended was rejected by the examiners a short time since. I regretted that he was so rejected, but on the other hand I wis glad to see that the examiners had, exercised that scrutiny which led to that rejection. (Cheers.) But beyond this, an order in council was issued the other day for the purpose of enforcing a uniform system of examination in all public offices connected with the civil servhe e, Ho trueted that that would be at tended with considerable advantage to the public service. But wo must not deceive ourselves with respect to the attrac tions which the public service posso4es. We Must not imagine that, even if the public service were bell out to publie comp tition, whip h he did not believe woad be appli cable to the purpose, but even if they opened an office to which any man might come from any part of the country to be examined, and put 'down his name as a candidate for vacen cies as they arose.-they must not imagine that, with the salaries which were now given to persons employed in the public offices, with the degree of labour which they would have to undergo, with the sacrifice of health which confine ment to office frequently entailed, with the knowledge that their meritorious services. could not, front the yeey nature of their occupations, be brought under official notice, yin the length of time they would have . to wait before they could arrive by any progression to the higher and more pro fitable employments of the office-they must not, lie con tended, imagine that the civil service would ever ,hold' out such temptations as would induce persons of rising talent to refrain from entering upon 'the more profitable avo• cations of commerce,' and those other roads to fame and fortune which we re so muc h more open th an they could ever be in the civil service. 'Now two very contrary opinions had been propounded to the house upon the , subject. H onoura bl e members who .sat below the gangway hold that the Government ought not to follow routiue in official appointments, and that when an office was vacant in which much responsibility and many important duties were to be performed, they ought to look out among commercial men for persons competent by 'their talesitand. industry to perform those duties. The right hon. gentleman the member for Bucks, on the other hand, held an exactly contrary doc trine, and said that the Government onAt to make the civil service a profession by itself, aid make the higher offices objects of ambition for persons lathe lower stations. Now, in his opinion, neither of these rules ought to be Invariably adhered to. As an instance of bow far these appointments ought to depend upon circumstances, he stated that the office of permanent Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs . had recently become vacant by the retirement of the gentle • man who bed formerly held it. The noble earl at the heal of the F reign -office had appointed to the vacant post one of the most distinguished meu in the Foreign-office-one who had worked his way up-and one who by his talents, his energy, and perseverance, and his -great activity of mind, was per fectly fitted for time discharge of the duties of the office, and to the great honour of Lord Clakendon, and the benefit of the country, Mr. Hammond had been made permanent Under- Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs. On the other hand, • Lord Amur° ha,d recently to APl** Tenons to superin, tend other branches se the public . service. The noble lord appointed Mr. Hotvell, •a - gentleman who had been some time. employed by the Government, but was not i fficially - connected with the Government. That gentle , man was appointed becaase. he was bediev,d to be peramtly cousretent to discharge the daties which were ; required to be performed, and Lord P3IIIIIIITO had said th4t during the • sln rt - space of •time for which that 4entlenviu "cad been appointed be had already effected ''consider able saving' in' the public expen•iituro in the do . partmeut over which he was placed. (Cheers.) Then, agoan, in the clothing department of the army, Lord Panmurc had ap pointed Sir Thomas Troubridge. to the head of that depart ment. (ch eers.) of that gallant, offieer and the appointment That was an officer who had received some most severs wou n d s b efore th e enemy, insensible. to the just cl a i ms of the ' army. ' (Ch eers ) So that was a proof that Lord .Panmure was not while the noble lord had taken from the commercial world a man well-fitted for the star inn which he was to ' occupy, he had upon the other hand coufc:rred by another appoint ment a wall-deserved rewa - ed upon a most distinguished military officer. (Cheers.) Those things prove` that her Majesty's Government were fully alive to th e d u ties which they had to perform. (Cheers.) When the - right hon. gen tleman the member for Bu c ki ng h amshire sail ' t4 Govern ment wire opposed by a vast majority of t-14 house; he (Lord Palmerston) said, on the contrary, that the Government re ceived the thanks of the right lion. gentleman bimsdlf —a vote of confidence by a very large majority. • (hear.) th ey were certainly indebted to the right hon: gentleman for that votP, because ho brought forward a resolution which wa4 intended to be h. condemnation of the Government, but which resulted in an honourable and triumphant acquittal. (Hear, hear. It would be superfluous to cuter into any argum en t why the) house should not accept the motion of the hon. member fo e Aylesbury. The hon, gentleman talked of disast.eris impend ing over the.conntry, and discredit to the national character. Why; the national Character never stood higher that it did at the present moment, and so far from anticipating disasters we had every reason for anticipating events of an opposite nature. (Hear, hear.) Wo had got in the Crimea an army which, having reervered from the sufferings of a severe viinter, was now in as fine a condiain as any British army which ever took the field.• an army which, in point of numbeb, health, equipment, spirit, and confidence in its officers, was equal to Any army of any .conutry' which ever marched la.gainst an enemy at the beginning of a c empaigu. (Hear, !hear.) It was fighting side by side with the troops of an ally on whom we could depend—troops which had shown that their valour was equal to our own ; and the two combined were a match for any troops in the world, and were sure, when they gave battle, to march to a victorious result. So far, then, from tailing, of discrurt to the country, or anticipating! disasters, he doubted whether there were ten men in the house who would vote for a resolution which eentained a statement so little iu consmance with the feelings of the country or with the fair prospects to whielove were entitled to lock forward. (Hear, hear.) lint the Government were asked, with respect ,o the motion of the honon-able baronet the member for Hert- fordsbire, whether they at cepted it in sincerity.: With sin cerity they did accept it. (Heir, hear.) Theyeccepted it as pledging them to pursue that s yst em of administrative re form as an official improvement which that house and the country required, and which the disposition of the Govern ment would equally lead them to adopt. For what possible intoreet could any Government have in pursuing any other course ? It had been said that the heads of offiees would ab , stain from appointing orfic'al staffs, lest the credit should be reaped by their successors. Why, such a miserable feeling' would be unworthy of any man who ever occupied a respon sible situation. (Hear, hear.) Every public man felt pride in leaving his office in such a condition as would make it impossible for his successor to improve it ; while every Government must know and feel that anradva,ntage which it could derive from obliging friends and constituen cies, and conciliating individuals, was as nothing in the scale compared with the credit and strength which it must acquire from the efficient performance of the public service. (Hear.) It must be the interest, as it was the duty, of every Ministry so to conduct the business of the country as to be most conducive to the public advantage. The reform of the public departments was undoubtedly a matter which con'el net be done without grave injury, much consideration, and considerable time. It was easy to say consolidate offices, and so save money and accelerate public busheesa; but, if they united offices, the business of which is not of the same kind. they would be joining things which were different in their nature, and, instead of producing economy and dedpatch, they would produce nothing but confusion and mistakes in the con duct of business. Thence it was necessary that they should look out for businesses of the same kind, and by patting them together they would secure unity of decision end despatch. The Government had done that with re rar 1 to the Ordnance. and he anticipated great advantages from the management of that office. It would be then our duty to look into all the other departments, and if they could find either that by con solidating offices now separate they could procure more unity of direction, or that by any redistribution of business they 'oertrld affect any material economy,. they should consider them selves bound to pursue that course. (Hear.) He should be glad, indeed, if the House of Commons *ere to evince a, die position to give more adequate remuneration to some of those engaged iu the civil service of the country but it coald not be forgotten that it was the hen. gentleman opnosite who proposed, not long ago, that la per cent. should be taken fro:n the insufficient salary of every clerk in the countryavith out regard to the special circumstances of each case. (Hear.) In the meantime the Government accepted the proposal of the honourable baronet the member for Hertfordshire as a pledge on their pelt that they would turn their serious at tention to the continued revision of the different offices be longing to the civil service, and that any am aidment which they could make, any admin'strative reform which they might thick prUcticable, with advantage to the country and with justice to the persons concerned, it should be their pride and pleasure to adopt. (Cheers ) Mr. LINDSAY, who was received with cries of," oh," said be rose to move the adjournment of the debate. (Cries of "go on," and "divide.") His reason for making that motion was. that the speech of the noble lord seemed to indicate that ho thought everything perfect. (Cries of " oh, oh.") But he had another and important reason. The house was aware that, iu another- place, ho had made certain statements con nected with the maladministration of the Government. He had been told that the G wernment intended to contradict those state cents; but he had sat there patiently foe two evenings vainly expecting the Government te do so. Now, as those statements were very important, and as be wished to repeat them in that house, he hope 1 the debate would be adjourned. ICries of "no, no,' - and "go on.") He was en tirely in the bands of the house, but ho .thought it would be more convenient, an he bad still more iinporiant statements to make- statements which would show the Government the necessity of a thel.ou ' r , li a lminitrative r3forin, if the debate were to be adjourned. (Cries of "g 3 on," and "divide.") Admiral BERKELEY said that he, too, had waited there all the evening in the hope that the honourable gentleman' would rise in his place, and' repeat the statements which he thought proper to make at Drury-lane. (Hear, hear.) Ho did not think it becoming to the house to take notice of any such virulent untruths. (Cries of "order, order," and cheers.) Ho was prepared when the honourable gentleman repeated those statements in that house, where ho was supposed to speak upon the character and honour of a 'representative of the peoele; to tell him to his face that what lie asserted was not founded on fact. (A laugh.) Mr. OTWAY, who rose an id cries of " Oh," said he was sorry to see that the gallant admiral differed so essentially from the noble lord at the head of the Government as to the propriety of answering the statements made elsewhere. The noble lord had not thought it beneath him to reply to certain remarks of the hon. member for Aylesbury at Drury-lane ; but the gallant admiral, using tering ao c turteous and Par liamentary, had not considered itaight to reply to - the obser vations of the hon. member for Teignmonth. (Hear) But as that hon. gentlemen had statiel that he was ready to briny still heavier charges against the Gin'ernment, bad the gallant admiral declared that he wished nothing better :than an oP , ' portunity of meeting those accusations? (Hear.) It appeared to him (Hr. Otway) that the debate must be adjourned, not only•fer the sake of those who wished-to _ speak upon a eab ject of present public interest, but even in justice to the Government itself. (Hear.) The house then divided, when there appeared— For the adjournment, Against it Majority 336 - -253 Mr. LAYARD then rose, and claimed the indulgence of the house while ha said a few words, : not so times in reply as in the way of explanation. Ile reTretted that the debate had not been adjourned after the words Which had fallen from the hon, and gallant, admiral, especially as the words were eertainly not courteous, if, indeed, they were Parliamentary. The hon. and gallant admiral hail used expressions which directly Ts timed the veracity of his hon. friend (ltr Lindsay), and he thought it was only fair that his hon, friend shrathl have had an opportunity of replying to them. With ree . ard to Want had fallen from the noble lard respecting the words which he (Mr, Layard) eves reported to have spoken in another and which were not, p. rhaps quite accurately reported, he had this explanation to offer to thl house, that while the hearts of the country weee rung, wire the deepest pain and sorrow pervaded the laud, in that august assembly the noble lord more than once rose in his place, when subjects of grave and serious matter were in debate, and treated them with levity—(" no, no," and " hear, hear,")—but he trusted that the tone of the noble lord hid improved. (Lar , hter.) With respect to what had been said he an hen, member (Mr. F. L. Gower) in reference to 11 , s olservatious remrding Earl .Gran tulle, he (Mr. Layard) begged to say Cut he did not intend to make any reflection on that noble lor 1; on the contrary, ; what he had said was intended to exculpate him from any such charge. .He was sorry to find that his words, having been misinterpreted, had given pain to any gallant officer and he wished to explain that, when he spoke of the officers in command of the artillery, he did net allude to Erigadier- General Strangways or to Brigadier-General Daeres. his ob servations having reference to the officer in command of the artillery at lukerman. lie had not the slightest intentinn to cast a personal reflectios on those who were concerned, and he was willing to leave the matter as it stood between him and the Under-Secretary of War to the.judgment of the house, It etas said he had never asked . for returns ; but he had asked for returns a few weeks ago, and there was no use in it, because one, neve • got them; and if ho had got the return ho asked for it would strengthen the case he had brought before the bowie. On referring to the re turn laid on the table respecting the officers who. had dis tinguished themselves in. the Crimea, it wo u ld b e f ound that it perfectly agreed wit's the statements that he (Mr. Layard) had made to the house, and if any more officers had been since promoted he should be glad t o see t h e i r u moe laid upon the table. With regard to the appointmeut of offi cers on the staff, he did not say officers so appointed 'should be provided with a certificate from Sandhurst ; what he had said was, that they should be edne fed at a place recogn:sed for that Purpose. In reference to what had been said re specting the appointment of his brother on the staff, he begged to offer the following explanation :—Coloucl Dixon wished to place his brother on the staff as an interpreter, because he was perfectly acquainted with the French and Italian lan guages, and ho frequently asked him (Mr. Layard) to men tion his brother at head-quarters. He refused to do so, but on the day he was leaving the camp he saw Colonel Steele, and they were talking about an interpreter. Ho said his brother spoke French and Italian perfectly well and why not employ him, and afterwards he saw. that he was placed on the staff. -He had another brother who filled a government situation in the island of Ceylon ; Le was in'excejlingly bad he•ilth, .and a memorial was signed hyt , isty men of science in favour of his removal to New Zealand. The memorial was supported by the lion, members for Leamington and Merthyr Tydvil ; but he (;dr. Llyard) refused to have anything to do with the me morial, and the Duke of Newcastle declined to do anything in the matter. He thought the noble lord had fallen into an error when he said that all consul-generalships were given to consuls. Not one of them had been consuls except in one ease, where lately a consul had been appointed consul-general at Beyrout. He (Mr. Layard) bad used th e word "scandalons," and it was understood that that word was applicable to Lord Harding() personally. Ho regretted that any person should suppose that he intended to apply that word to Lord Hardinge personally, and if the expression had giVen pain to' any per son in that house, he begged to retract that expression. The house then d vided. The numbers were For the original re501uti0n............ • ' Against it... .................... ' ..... Majority a ga i ns t i t. • The SPEAKER the n p u t t h e question ou Sir.... . ........... E. B. Lytton's amendment, now become the main question. Mr. W..S. LINDSAY —I rise to move the adjournment of the debate. lam sure, after what h as passed this evening, especially after the §tateraento of tho bon, and gallant officer, tho house will be so generous as to grant ma the opportunity of showing on what grounds finade the statements irapugned. Viscount PALMERSTON said that under the circumstances, as from the lateness of the hoar the hon. gentleman would not have an adequate opportunity for explanation, he should assent to the adjotirnment of the debate. Mr. DISRAELI inquired whether the noble ford would clusent to Vac M e t ropo li s Improvement Bill coming on first at the next sitti ng o f the house, as this would be a great con- venieve. Viscount PALMERSTON—There is nothing like, standing by an arrangement, and we stand by ours as to the Irish bill coming first. • Mr:DISRAELI said he should, if he were present, move that the other hil be taken first. The debate was then adjourned to Thursday. The Spirit of Wine Bill was read a third time. The 'Railways (Ireland) Bill passed thronen committee. UNION CHARGES ACT CONTINUANCE. Mr. BAINES brought in a bill. to continue r.n act of the IStit year of her Majesty, for easrging the maintenance of Certain poor persons in unions in England and Wales upon the common feud. YOUTHFUL OFFENDERS BILL. Sir G. GREY brought iu a bill to amend the act for the better care and reformation of youthful offenders. RAMSGATE HARBOUR RILL. Mr. BOUVERIE brought in a bill to alter the management of Ramsgate Harbour, and to provide for the future abolition of the passing toll. The house adjourned at twenty minutes past tWo„ PARLIAMENTARY DIVISION. HOUSE OF CONDIONS —JuNE 18. ADMINISTRATIVE REFORM. Order read for resuming adjourned debate on amendment proposed to question, " That this House views with deep and increasing concern the state &f the nation, and is of opinion that the manner in which merit and efficiency have be,n sacrificed, in public appointments, to party and family influences, and to a blind adherence to routine, ins given rise to great misfortunes, and threatens to bring discredit upon the national character, and to involve the country in grave disasters :" And which amendment was to le tve out from the word "House" to the end of the question, iu order to add the words, " recommends to the earliest attention of her Majesty's Ministers the necessity of a careful revision of our various oflizial establishments, with a view to sim plify and facilitate the transaction of public business, and, by instituting judicious tests of merit, as well as by re moving obstruction s to its fair promotion and legitimate rewards, to secure to the service or the State the largest available proportion of the energy and intelligence for which the people of this country are distinguished," instead posed to' be l ProP O EOI, " That the w ord s pro thereof. Q again uestion eft out sta nd part o Howe divided—Ayes 46, Noes 359. f the question." The AYES -46. Alexander, J. Lang ton, 11. O. Bell, .7. La Lett, W. Bowyer, G. Lee, W. Beockman, E. D. Lindsay, W. Brown, 11. Low., B. ct,bden, R. Maguire, .7. Diliwyn, L. Mangles, It. D. Dun 1a1, , ,G. Miall. E. Dunlop, A. Michell, W. Fitzgerald, W. Mowatt, F. Fox, W. Mfirrough, J. Godelel', Vis. Oliveira, It. Greaves, E. Otway, A. Grogan, Edward Parke-, It. Hadfield, G. Peellell, Sir G. Keating, 11. S. Pehet. A, King, I'. Price, W. Rte. J. Ito..buct, .T. Scholefleld, Senhell, Cam a . Sza' lc, V. • Smith. J. R. Thompso n , Tite. a. Vance, J. Warner, E. Williams, W. ise, A. TELLEIS Layard, A. 11. Clifford, Col. 11. M. NOES-359. Acton, .T. Forester, Col. Mostyn, T. Adair, IL. Forster, C. Mowbray, J. B, Adair, It. Forster, Sir G. Muigreve. Earl Addcrley, C. Forster, J. Millings, J. A uderson, Sir J. Fortescue, C. Mundy, W. Alinesley, Eats of Franklyn, G. Neeld. john Antrohus, E. Freestun, Col. Norreys, Sir D. Arehdall, M. Fr... Wield, J. North. err!. J. Atherton, W. Galway, Viscount. Nor 11, F. Bagshaw, J. Gardner. R. No. thcote, Sir S. lie nes. Et. Hon. M. Gasket'. J. Oakes, .4 1ia1..1, J. George, J. O'Brien, I'. Ball, E. Gilpin, Col. H. O'Brien, C. B .11, J. oladstole, Capt. J. O'Brien, J. Baring, T. Glyn, G . O'Connell, D. Barnes T. Gooch, Sir E. O'Flaherty, A. Barrington, Viscount Goodman, Sir G. Osborne, 8.. Bass, 'r. Gore, W. Ossitiston, Lard listeson, Capt T. Gower, F. Packe, C. 13eruntsh, F. Graham, Lord W. Paget, Lord A. leminont, W. G ranby, Marquis of l'akincton, Sir J. lieckett, W. Greene, Thomas Palmer, liohert Ilective, Earl Gregson, S. Palmer, Roundell Bennet, Capt. P. Orenfell, Chas. Palmerston, Visa. Berkeley, Admiral Grey. Sir G. P.xton, Sir J. Berkeley, C. Grey, B - Peel, Sit It. Beriteley, Hon. M. Grosvenor, Earl Peel, F. Bedroll, Sir R. Guinness, R. Pennant, Col. E. Ciddulph, R. M. Gurney, Percy, J. J. Biggs, W. Gwyn, li. Philipps, J. Bloiold, Sir S. ITalford. Sir IT. Plultimore, J. G. Blac - .:burn, Peter Hall, Sir 13. - Phillimore, It. J. Bland, L. Hamilton. Lon IC. Pil k Indio., .1. Booth, Sir lit. Gore Hamilton, J. H. P , llard-tirquhart, W. houverie, lion. E. P. 11 anbury,Capt.llon. C. Portal, M. Isremley- Moore, J. Hanker, T. Portman, W. 13rams on, I'. W. Hanmer, Sir T. Price, Sir R. Brand, 11. B. W. liar •ourt, Col. F. Pritchard, J. Brcklehurst. J. Pugh, D. Pestle, Alex. Brothertoo, .1. & Renton, (I. II Istie, Arch Bruce, Lord E. Ricardo, 0. Hayes, Sir ft lq , .ek, G. Hemtlam, T. Ricardo, S Buckley, Gen. Heard, .T. Bice, E. 13 urroughes. 11. D ea'hcote, cir G. Itobartcs, T. Burrowes, R. Heatlicote, G. Robert,on, P. Byng, G. Heneage, Geo. F. it ' -' 11 . P. Caqicil, B. Ilen'or, J. Reinhold, C. Cairns, 11. Herbert, IT. Mt- hout, col. G. Campbell, Air A. Dervey, Lord A it H •sull, : l•ord J. Cant .yell, E. Till'yard, R. (1. Kassel!, F. W. Carnac, Sir J. M . I'. Lori 4... E. Sadleir, J.ines Cas•lerosse, Viscount. H:,,,i,,, C. S an d e, C. . eau fi.-Id, Cal. J. ' Tiovm .', , ~ Scrope, 0. Carend.sa, C. Borstal!, T. 11. Seymer, If. Cavendish, 0. Seymour, IT. no: ;,,,,,,,. E. Cecil, Lord It. 1...) loom', W. D. Poward, C. Chambers, T. Itow,v•d, Lord Shatto, li. . li,p;111, IV. Iluelies, Shelburne, Earl Chill, Smith W. 'lngham, R. Sheik, , -it J. Clii,ton, Lord R. Shirley, EF. Trion, S. ( Lvr, I ti L J. NL Jackson, NV. Smith, R. Conbe, - .Terroym Earl Smith, W. Cockburn, Sir A. J. E. ~,,,,,st,ne, J. Smith, Abel Cock., I. s. Johns:one, 51r J. Smith, J a. Corlrinzion. Sir C. W. . T .„ . „ in. Smolleii, A. ...701.5. 11. B. Tones 1). hoitz-rvlle, sir VP. ..;v:lwr, It. 1 . . ' K COI r , V, it. Sotheron, T. Co N.M. , . C. It. Vo•14,111. N. si,ooner, it. orry. D. T. L. Keneli. w. Stationl, A. Cotton, Ylreor W. Kerrlson, Sir E. • StAnhoo-, .1. Cowsn, C. t.t. mley, Lord Rershew, J. Cowper, W. F. Kin ~ ~. Startle. be 14. Crstultird, E. 11. J. ig,,....,trd, A. Steel, J. (1, ossiey, F. Kirk, W. Ste; henson B. (I , .u.iit. W. Ena•ebbllll, W. Stirimg. 'V. D ' , di,- , 01, S'r (I. TI. K„i„..„.. I. unlit, E. Davie, -ir It. It. F. Knight ,,, .... E. Stewart, Sir M. Dee des, W. Knox, Col. D. W. StiLtrt, W. It , ninon, J. E. Knox, W. S. Sitilivan, Michael Dent. .1. I.o,olielier^,ret.Hon.H Sutton, J. Bering, Sir E. Lao...stop, .l. 11. Talbot, C. 1 .8 Vero, S.. . T.amton, W'. Tancrea, if. Disraeli. 8.. Legh, G. C. Taylor, Col. Dive t, E. 1 cslie, C.. P. Thesiger, Sir F. hod, J. nr, Lewis, Sir G. C. I'llorilety, I'. Drumlanrig, Viscount Lida 1101 G. Thornhill, W. Drummond, 11. Lindsay. C01..T. Tr‘ill, 0. Du kwor h, bit' J. T. Littleton. F.. Trollope, Sir J. (tuff, G. Lockhart, A. E. Tudway, R. Duff, J. Lockhart, W. Tyler, Sir G. Dime, Sir J. Loraine, Lord Vane, Lord TL Duncan, Viscount • r ovirth , ‘r, Capt. Vansittert, (I. Duncan, G. L 1 luncomhe,Hon. A. IT. e til T iiiton. (1. "Verner;Sir W„ Vernon, G. Buncombe, 0. ' Lytton, Sir G. Vernon; L. Du' e•mhe, lIon.W. Ikracartney, O. Villiers, C. Bun.les, F. • Macgregor, Jas. Vyse, Col. Darnel van, Viscount At Mins, R. Walcott, Admiral Erten, Sir J. Mandeville, Via. Walpole, S. Egertou,Sir F. Manners, herd 0. Water park, Lord Egerton, E. C. :Manners, Lord J. Welby, Sir G. Ellice, E. March. Earl of Wel s, 11', Elliot, J. Marioribanks, D. West F. Elinlev, Via. Martin, .1. Wham) m, J. Einlyn. Vis. Massey. W. Whil'..c."e t I. S. ' , monde-J. lia-terman..T. Whitmore, li. Eeelyu, W. Mathis on, A. Wickham, 11. W. Evart, W. Mathison, Sir J. . Wilkinson. W. Ewart, J. Maxwell, J. Wilhelm, M. Farnham, E. Itieux, Sir H. Wilson; J Farrer, J. Miles, W. Winnineton, Sir T. Fenwielc, TT. Mlligait, R. Wood, Sir C. l - (Talton, C. 1. Mills, T. Wyndi;am. Gem Permson, Sir 11. Milner, W. Wyndham, 11. Fergusson, .ir J. 3lcffatt, G. 'Wynn, I.le it.-Col. Film r, Sir E. Molesworth, Sir W. Wynn,. W Fitz Jerald, Sir J. Monck. Viscount Wyvitt, 31 Fitzflerabl, J. Moose'', W. Fitzroy, Hon. ll.' Montgomery, Sit G. Floyer; .1, 14 oo,ly, C. Follett, B. Morris, D. TeLLEas Hayter, W. Jollifl,4 Sir W. [ADVERTISEMENT.] — The most inveterate liver complaint and diarrhoea, which had resisted'all inediein s for pears, yielded to Du Barry's delicious Revalenta Arabica Food. Our old friend the great Indian travell r and antiquary, Major Edie, writes as follows:—" London, 20th March, 1852.—Dear Sir, —Having suffered fearfully for two years from an enlargement of the liver and au inveterate diarrhoea, brought on in India and China, and having tried the advice of the most eminent Professional men in China, India, and at home, without any other result than gradual decay, I was on the brink of the grave—unable to lift my arms from perfect exhaestion, when C-pt. Wraughton, of the Hon. E. I C. Service, recommended me to try Du Barry's excelle..t Revalenta Arablea Food, and to discard the drugs I was then taking The result of eatinZ this delicious Foo i is the perfect restoration'of my health within amonth ; and I Take a peculiar pleasure in recommending all sufferers to follow my example. 'shall he lappy to answer any inquiries. I am, &c., W EDIE, Major, II M , Unattached. In canisters, 11b. 2s. 9d.; 21b. 4s. 6d,; 51b. lie. ; 121 b. 225, The 121 b., carriage free, on receipt of Post-one order. Barry Du Barry & Co., 77, Regent-street, Loudon ; also at 182, Piccadilly ; GO, Graceelrirch-street ; 330, and 451, Strand; 4, Cheapside ; 63 and t , B, Cornhill ;* 49, Bishopsgate-street; 55, Charing-cross; 54, Upper Baker-street; 63 and 150, Oxford-street ; 89,, High •street, Camden-town ; 18, Pull. mall; 7, Fall-mall-East ; 132, New Bond-street ; 24, Mot comb-street ; 13, King William street, City .:30, Conduii, street ; 21, fleck - spur-street; 95, Farrin,gdou-street ; 67, St. Paul's Churchyard ; 6. Edward-s.treei; ,P.. t.0. , n [ADVERTISSMENT. j TIIB WAR IN TITS EAST. ---POWERPUL PATENT RECONNOITRING GLASSES.— Messrs. S. and 11. Solo mons, opticians, 39, Albemarle-street, Piccadilly, Ol:serve opposite the York Hotel. By her Majesty's Roy a l Letters Patent for valuable and extraordinary improvements in the most powerful and brilliant Teleseepes, Camp, v course, Opera, and Perspective Glasses, to kilo* the distances of ajeets viewed through them—of great importance to the , army, navy, and others. Th ese telescopes poisc!ss s uc h extra ordinary powers that so me 31 i nches, with an extra eye piece, will show distin c tly Jupiter's moons, .Saturn's ring, and the double st ars ; w i th the same telescope can be seen a person's tountenvoce three mil es and it half distant, and an object from 16 to 20 miles. They arc of larger and all sizes, with inereasins enablePt,vireria accordingly ; while their vary ainbgovfn'e,mand t t h n e Exhibition, 181;1.---v ii i powerful waistcoat-pocket bleu with his 6tztdilicitcovse,rire.o_renthoallon Royal t n h e o w s ly4uvented in , .7,7; whichsm ize country scenery, a person can be Keen and kn 6 o r wit li f ista a ; they y answer t an he a r ß ac hi o-co s a r e e c i e m ai ai l l i d y e at the, opera house , ,, race-course, camp, They are invaluable for shooting, acer-stalking, y th ae l h o th in ig il , e t n o . sportsmen, gentlemen, gamekeepers, and twists. Opera, and Power.—Newly -constructed thwoengdte•reaf'ta. est transparent power. The valuable advantage derived from this invention is, that 'vision . beconibig impaired is preserved and strengthened, and very aged. persons are enabled to employ their sight at the most minute occu pation —can see with these lenses of a much less magnify. lag power—and they do not require the, frequent changes to the - dangerous effects of further powerful assistance. Deaf ness—New Discovery.—The OrganieNibralor, alLextraordi a nary powerful, small, newly - invented instrument fertlealness, e ki n ti ti d re t l h y at different has from' been, all or others teat sis of the . probably ever can be, produced. Being of the same colour as the skin, is not perceptible ; it enables deaf persons to hear distinctly at church and at public assemblies ; the unpleasant sensation of singing 'noises in the ears is entirely removed ; and it affords all the assist• ante that ralsibly could be dcsired. 39, Albemarle-street. . PloortAilly t Obberve=oppoite the York 110441.