The Sun. — London, England, 1855-05-05 00:00:00

PETITIONS. Petitions were presented by Mr. Strutt from Nottir.g ham, for the repeal of the Sunday Beer Bill; by M:r. Spooner from Birmingham, in favour of closing publi c houses on Sundays ; by Mr. Horsfall from various D'is - senting bodies in Lancashire, against the Maynoo tit grant; by Mr. Bentinck from a parish in Norfolk, for the closing of all public-houses on Sundays; by Sir J.. Walmsley 16 petitions from various Dissenting congre gations, against church rates, and one from the inhabi tants of Leicester, in ,favour of local rating, and one against the Maynooth grant ; by Mr. Bland from the Queen's County, in favour of the Tenants Improve] nen t Bill ; by Mr. J. G. Phillimore from various magistr:ttei:' clerks in Cheshire, in favour of appointing a public !mentor ; by Sergeant Shea a large number of petitior s from different parts of the King's County, and Kilkenn2 r and Down, in favour of the Tenants' Improvement Cora • pensation Bill; by Colonel Lindsay, from Fife, in favou:r of the Scotch Education Bill. EAST INDIA COMPANY STOCK. Sir E. PERRY moved for a return. of the amount of 4 per cent. East India Companyis stock; accepted by holders of the various 5 per cent: stocks converted by the East India Company during the years 1853 a ad 1854 ; distinguishing the various stocks, and stating t h e number of holders who accepted the terns of the Ea,A. India Company.—Ordered. PORT WINE ADULTERATION. On the motion of Mr. MACARTNEY the follow ing documents were ordered :—Address fo: copies or ex tracts of any despatches from her Majesty's Minister at Lisbon, or her Majesty's Consul General or Consuls in Portugal, between the years 1848 and 1853, re co m mending the prohibition or discouragement of the. im portation of a compound called jerupiga, made with elderberries, brown sugar, grape juice, and brandy, and used for the adulteration of port wine. Copies of any correspondence between her Majesty's Lords or the Treasury and the Commissioners of Customs, with. -I. the same period, relative to the refusal of the latter to per mit jerupiga to be entered as wine and mixed with i)ort wine in bond : and, of any minute or minutes, or z Jay correspondence or instructions issued by the Lads of her Majesty's Treasury and the Commissioners of Cus - toms, within the same period, authorising the mi:: ng o f jerupiga with port wine in bond, under the superin rend slice of the officers of Customs, in the same propc ;-tion as brandy, ♦iz., thirty-three gallons of the compoun. t to one hundred gallons of pure port wine. Return the number of tons of logwood exported from Great Britain to Oporto in the years 1852, 1853, 1354, and 1855. KINGSTOWN HARBOUR. Mr. H. HERBERT asked the Secretary to the Tres:- Bury whether any immediate prospect existed of tb e works of the new Steam Packet Jetty in Kings town Harbour being proceeded with ; and whether he haul any objection to lay on the table of the house, the con-re spondence that had taken place between the G-overmnent and the Board of Public Works relative to the said jetty, and also the report 3 of Mr. Rendal in connection with that correspondence : also to ask, whether any Ilan bad been submitted to the Government for cor,,cting the new steam-packet landing place with the Kingetown. and Dublin Railway ? Mr. WILSON said whatever plan should be Mop :ed, there should be a communication between the rp.il,vay and the steam-boats, and the plan was now under the censideration of the proper authorities. STATE APARTMENTS AT WINDSOR. In reply to Mr. PELLATT, Sir W. MOLESWORTH said the apartments lately occupied by the Emperor and Empress of the Fren,lh at Windsor Castle were not under the control of the l 3 ►ard of Works, but of the Lord Chamberlain, who he hnd no doubt would afford every opportunity to the hon. naem ber to'visit them. (Hear, and a laugh.) . . THE VIENNA CONFERENCE. fitrpl,AE Ll • - 'ir, I wish to have some explanation ha , ta n k ar ei ajesty' s Government of the unusual delay which St a t„ ~, Place in laying on the table of the hot; se the for ),7 1 '" relating to the late unsuccessful negotiations e ra' olt of th e be th e The Rouse • will be aware that, whatever nightJ the reven , whettm ee negotiations, whether successfil or or whether the resu r i preliminaries of peace had been si ;tied been the case --ti, pa t e had been such as appears to 1 lave preitresdconneeted with the negotiab ons might have been negotiations terminat e d th f " the House; so that when .the tocol or two or th,,, 1 " 6 would only have papers might have been a p l t e tl a aanatch to D nt been a pro an ' d tlic• on the same night that a th e e - i s i ll e t t h . e4alA ti i i ot - f h 'the 1:ouso returned and took his seat that this is the usual course this hi,?ilac e Ool,,nies from her Majesty's Government I t en;;: in th k I m t. ; I find has not been followed on the present - - .7, e ; 115 mal y ask course there has not been that willingness occasion, the a why Majesty's Government to place Parliament i n - ' n ' rt Of lakr , the information which it has cc,rtainly a r i g - iT t ns t r 3 Rieo ~f grave subjects to pess3ss as soon as it is in the p ow l ' e n r ° such Government to produce it. (Hear.) I have search ' the subject, and, ~,t,,hei journals which should guide us on this wish to confine myself at present strictly within the ~,,h_ nicallimits of a Parliamentary question, I will state to th e 11 „?ase, if you, Sir, will perm it me, exactly what I fit. ' on re journals to guide us in this mo mentous crisis ; and then v Zill ask her Majesty's Government to explain to the house whi r eZ,Fais occasion they have not followed preccienta I=4 l . _..re alw a y s governed the conduct of Mim sters to similar circumstances. The precedent which I cake because it one d° o B not vary from others ; but I selcct it import ance, and i n -n i e t : 4 modern date, of the highest import conjuncture. 1 ta ireurnstances apposite to the pre sent e o f r i e 9 t 6 t . /te precedent of the rupture of the negotiationse 14th of October, house will rec,llect f at, formed that his m a j e i st 1796, the country was in formed as his plenipotentiary- sent the Ear: of a peace. That was on the had to France to pogo :late 1 14th of October, and ou the 1 tifE `5 10 i ', kVENING, MAY 5, 1885,, MPERIAL PARLIAMEN',I 20th of December it was known in the country that the - 1 - 1 • negotiations had terminated. The Rai of Malmesbury re * turned to this country on the 29th of December ; but two days before the E trl of Malmesbury returned—namely, on HOUSE OF LORDS—(YESTERDAY.) ' Monday, the 27th of December—the Minister came down The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the wool- to the house with a message from the Crown, fr..na which sack at five o'clock. - I will read a passage to the house. 1 The SPEAKER—Does the right h on . mem b er mean to Lord SHAFTESB URY p resen t e d severa l pe titi ons . I conclude with a motion ? BURIAL OF THE DEAD. Mr. DISRAELI—I will conclud e w ith a mo ti on i f you The Earl of SANDWICH begged to call the atten- find that lam not strictly within the l' tion of the noble duke opposite to the question he put ' but I apprehend that you will find that i Ta ite ett. a question li n ; 1 , c b u y m t s h t e a nmeei Ministers, i s s i t m e r ile s, similar to the the nprlesent shall, was hav e the to c a o s u k ; to him on a formes occasion with respect to the state of the limits of a question. I wish to state am strictly the burial grounds and vaults in the county of Hunt- s n ew n an d dy e o r pt c ht l ea r cti ingdon. course has not been followed on the present occasion. But The Duke of ARGYLL said in reply that the Home Secretary bad power, oa the receipt of the report of an if yon think cld that lam transgressing the rules of the house I 12 u e with emotion that will not be inconvenient authorised inspector, to order burial grounds to be closed , will to th ce e sso r i i i s a m v ent, because it is a motion which they will either wholly or in part, and also the power of ordering themselve v s e make in the course of the evening. the re-opening of bnrial grounds either wholly or in part, (Cheers.) I have e te e o min n dg a the h house that on the 20th of . if he were satisfied that such re-opening would not be December it was known mated. On the 29th ' Of Decetmtbeer n o e u g r otiatio h terne re i : prejudicial to the public health. This was the course ;our plenipotentiarynegotiations sued respecting the burial grounds and vaults in Hunting- turned to this country ; but two days before,l on the 9 7th don, to which the noble earl specially referred. Application of December, Mr. Secretary Dundas came down to the having been made to the Home Secretary for the o pen- house with a message expressed in these words : ing of the vaults in Huntingdon, not generally for the "It is with the utmost concern that his Majesty acquaints interment of a certain body, he issued such order ace, ;rd. the House of Commons that his earnest endeavours to effect ingly, and the interment took place. It was obvious I the restoration of peace have been unhappily frustrated, and that between the time of his receiving this application that the negotiation in which he was happily engaged has and the burial of the body, there was notice for the been abruptly broken off by the peremptory refusal of the Home Secretary t o ascertain whet her the opening would French Government to treat, except upon a basis evidently be prejudicial to the public health. inadmissible. His Majesty has directed the several memorials and papers which have been exchanged in the course of the Th e Earl of MALMESBURY express e d hi s sat i s rc- late discussion, and the account transmitted to his Majesty tion at finding this question revived by the i ;tie of its final result, to be laid before the h ou s e ." earl which he believed to be one of considerable iini...-ort- Now, hon. gentlemen will find, on referring to the jour ance, and connected with which there were cirest - nab, that the State papers alluded to in the Royal mes stances which would warrant a special: ,inquiry into the sage were of a very voluminous description. They will subject of the closing and re-opening of burial grounds. there find a schedule of the papers laid on the table, and After a short discussi on , 4 they will see that probably, not only in importance, but The Bishop of LONDON said the notice in • also in number, they here not inferior to the queetion • • papers' we did not order the closing in now so anxiously expect. (Hear, hear.) But the house uestio but gave ti,stic . e that after a certain period the grave n yards would. be will observe that two days had not— closed. He quite agreed w i th the noble earl wit a. Mr. RICH ro-e to order. (Oh, oh !) He was most un spect to the imp or t ance of the sub'ect and he sh mid re- willing to interrupt the right hon. gentleman—(oh !)—be feel it his duty for th e third time to j call their lords; ups' ' u thought it most desirable that a full statement c s a ho s u e l d h be e made upon this subject, bat at the same time he attention to th e many grievous evils which had arisen thought the hon. gentleman was not strictly adhering to by the precipitate closing of burial grounds. the rules of the house with regard to questions. (Oh, oh!) Lord PORT MAN thought that such an impor Sant The SPEAKER.—The right hon. gentlemean, having question should not hang upon the report of an ofbicer stated that he will conclude with a motion, is perfectly in whose tenure in o ffi ce was li a bl e t o f re quent changes.. order. (Loud cheers.) The subject then dropped. Mr. DISRAELI.—I regret that a misconception on the The Earl of DERBY presented a petition from Livia- part of the hon. gentleman of the statement I was about to Pool, complaining of the conduct of the war. make—a statement which I think it is for the public interest should be made, and which I have only been induced to A discussion here arose with respect to instructr,ams make for the sake of the public interest and for the honour to be given to select committees of their lordships' ho ase. and advantage of the country—(cheers)— has subjected me THIRD READINGS. to interruption. Sti'l, however, Ido not despair of being The following bills were read a third time 7—'Zie able to brillg the point clearly before the house. I will Ossett Gas, Staleybridge Gas, and the Chesterfield Writ er now attempt to regatiser the scattered threads of my state and Gas. ment. The house will observe that the moment it was BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE. - Lord REDESDALE moved—" That this house w ill not read any bill a second time after Tuesday, the 24th of July, except bills of aid or supply, or any bill in rel t tion to which the house shall have resolved, before tl .e second reading is moved, that the circumstances whit :h render legislation on the subject of the same expediec t, are either of such recent occurrence or urgency as to render the immediate consideration of the said bill 31 e cessary." _ Viscount CANNING concurred in the resolutiocn, and it was agreed to. LOAN BILL. known that negotiations were broken off, before even the plenipotentiary had returned, there came down a message from the Crown to the House of Commons, and the Minis ter at the same time gave notice that on the following day he would lay the whole of these papers on the table—a very different position from that in which the house now rinds itself placed. (Hear, hear.) But was this all ? On Mon day, December 27, the message of the Crown to the House of Commons came down. On Tuesday, the 28th, in defer ence to the direction contained in the gracious message of his Majesty, the Minister placed on the table of the house the whole of the papers connected with the negotia tions. (Cheers.) But that was not all. Mr. Canning, the Under Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, laid upon the table of the house for the use of members a state paper of the utmost importance, accompanied by what was called " his Majesty's Royal declaration," in which his Mejesty made the house acquainted with all the circumstances of the negotiation and the causes which had led to its unsuc cessful termination. Now, the house will observe that in 1796, under circumstances similar to the present—so similar that the power with which we were in treaty appears to have conducted itself very much in the same spirit as that described by the noble lord (Lord J. Russell; the other night in the brief account he gave of his negotiations—the nego tiations terminated by a "peremptory refusal to treat, ex cept upon a basis evidently inadmissible." The house will see that in that case, under circumstances apparently not only similar, but I may say even identical with those which have just occurred, we had in Parliament a message from the Crown ; we had the whole of the papers connected with the unsuccessful negotiations hid upon the table of the House of Commons before even the negotiator had returned; we had a royal declaration, containing the whole pith and marrow of the negotiations, placed upon the table for the advantage of members, and, more than that, we hat the Minister, on the very day that he laid the papers on the table, which was Tuesday, giving notice for the following Tuesday of a motion to take them into consideration. Now, sir, as I have more free warrant to speak than I expected, I will ask the house to contrast the situation of Parliament in 1796, under similar circumstances, with the condition in which the House of Commons now finds itself in 1855. (Hear.) How have we been treated ? Has them been the same necessity on the part of her Majesty's Government to impart to Parliament the necessary information at a mo ment so pregnant with the fate of the country? Has there been, not only the same promptitude, bat the same form and wise ceremony, in communicating tetween the Crown and Parliament? (Hear, hear.) So far as the proceedings of Parliament are concerned, I doubt whether we have even any authentic evidence before is that any negotiations have been in progress, and certainly we have not at this moment the slightest information (f what the .basis of those negotiations was, or what wers the grave points in dispute. (Heat- and cheers.) I think_ the house has a right to inquire why there is this singular difference between the modes in which Parliament has been treated, under circumstances of so much similarity and so much importance, by the Government of that day and the Go vernment in the present instance. (Hear, hear.) Why has not her Majesty been advised to communicate with her Parliament when negotiations for peace with a gnat Power have failed ? Why has there not been a Royal message ? Why, in the present instance, have not the papers been prepared during the interval of negotiation, as ;hey were prepared during the Ministry of 1796—(hear, hear)—so that, when the termination of the negotiatioat was an nounced Parliament, might have been immediately made acquainted with all the circumstances of the case? Why, in a matter which has so deeply agitated the country, have we not had some means of forming an opinion of the state of affairs? Why has there not been a Royal message ? Why have not the papers been promply placed uponthe table? Why has there not been a Royal delaration, and why has the Minister not come for % ard, am with a practice befitting a British Parliament laid papertupon the table of the house and fixed a day when Parlianent can take them into consideration ? (Cheers.) I had thoight that I might have asked these questions without tnspassing upon a privilege which I, wished other members to enjoy, of moving that the house at its rising adjourn til Monday next ; but I will now make that motion, in oiler to be strictly within the rules of the house, and, having made that motion, I await with interest the answer of;he noble lord to the questions I have addressed to him. ((beers.) Lord PALMERSTON—I think the answer whah I shall have to give will have been anticipated by almort all who heard the questions of the right hon. gentlenan who are at all acquainted with the circumstances to which he had adverted, and the circumstances connected with the negotiations recently conducted by my noble freid. The right hon. gentleman has referred to a case in which, in a war between England and France, negotiatiots were en tered into directly between two countries—a case in which it was perfectly clear in the course of the negotiations, be fore they were concluded, that peace was hopeless, and, peace being hopeless, it became the duty of tie Govern ment of the day to appeal to Parliament for mere vigorous exertions for the continuance of the war. (Fear, hear.) If my noble friend had gone to St. Petersburg vithout any previous negotiation with any other Power, ini if the result of a fortnight's or a month's negotiation at St. Pe tersburg had proved similar to that to which the right hon. gentleman refers, the cases would certainly have been much more parallel than they are in poir tof act. It is well known that the negotiation which my able friend undertook was conducted through the intervention of the friendly Government of Austria. It is well known that from the commencement of the war—and I may say even before the commencement of the war—Austria, a. maintain ing friendly relations towards all parties, has been inces sant in her endeavours to bring about a reconciliation of the differences existing between England and France on the one hand and Russia on the other, and it was only a continuance of those efforts which led to the corferences in which my noble friend took part. Although, lowever, these conferences did not terminate in a successfil issue, they were not broken off. They were adjourned without any specific time being appointed for their reneval ; but after my noble friend left Vienna, and after the corferences had been adjourned sine die, there took place at the re quest of Austria another conference, and the probcols of that conference [The noble lord was here interrupted by an observation from Lord J. Russell, which was inau dible in the gallery.] At the request of the Russian Mi nister, who said that he had another proposal to make, the conference was re-assembled, and—without being per fectly certain on the subject—l believe that up to this moment the detailed protocols or records of that conference have not been received by her lajesty's Government ; at all events, if they have been re ceived, it is within the present day. Well, sir, the confer ence adjourned, and my noble friend returned to this coun try ; but there still exist at Vienna the elements 6f a con ference—representatives of England, of France, of Russia, and of Austria. The course the right hon. gentleman sue geets might certainly be a very proper course to adopt, if it was the determination of her Majesty's Governnent to shut the door against every possible mean s o f se ttin g t h ose differences which have led to the war. (Hear.) If her Majesty's Government had fully determined that, miler no circumstances, would they listen to any further crertures that may be made, either by Russia, through Autria, or by Austria with the view of suggesting means of accom modation between the belligerent powers; then undoubt edly the course the right hon. gentleman recournends her Majesty's Government to pursue, of coining down with a message to Parliament, stating that all possi bility of an accommodation was at an end, and declaring that peace was, under the circumstances, impassible, would be the proper course to adopt. But, sir, that is not the position in which we are placed. (Hew, bear, and cheers from the Ministerial side.) We have filed in the attempt we made, but I am not prepared to sty that there are no other means open by which, through the in tervention of the friendly offices of Austria. propisitions may be made which it may become the duty of ltr Ma jesty's Government seriously to consider, with the 'iew of determining whether it is still possible to bring the exist- ing differences to a close. (Hear.) Allow me to sty, sir, that, even upon the showing of the right hon. gentleman, the present case and that to which he refers are not parallel cases. The right hon. gentleman says that in the mse of France the - basis of negotiation was peremptorily refuse I by France; but in this instance the basis of negotiation has been accepted by Russia. The four points upon which England and France agreed to negotiate have been accepted by Rus sia, and to a certain extent even the interpretation which whieh thq fai England and Pranced placed upon those four points has also been accepted by Russia as a foundation upor which o negotiate. The difficulties have been as to the ;node in essentialfel t? out in cleta'l r meaning sir, whatev i e an with r e e r meaning of these points was to be c ,rried d articles of agreement. I think, theref pro, may be the opinion of the right hon. gentle arethe analogy of the two cases, that they and I conside Y , t eereut in their fundamental elements ; have been properl a y t . I .,: r )" la jesty's Government would ih -, t which would have — rner cases, they had taken steps the fanciful anal e s-T„;Trosing their duty if, following. out proclaim (I . lost all hopes of thep s „„ib ii !t to the world that we had I should be equally out false hopes which nil st„,toveeurnent would en neglenj'Y of any accommodation. Sir. I were to hold resinsed ; but, at the same time, I should feel tghlintflgtitleY: 1 t 1, ;. that all hopes of ac inn l a eav e the question tircly violate their duty if they corninoclation were at an end. I wis from the the state in which It is. (Hear, a Opposition.) I wish to leave the door of nneotation open. On the motion of Lord STANLEY of ALDERLET the Loan 16,000,0001. bill was read a third time. In reply to Lord MONTEAGLE, Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEY said it was feAt, in deciding upon this loan, that it would not be pro t able to raise so large a sum as the 16,000,0001. by t 3re minable annuities. But between terminable annuities and the establishment of a sinking fund there was i 7 i effect little or no difference. In the case of the ?inkjet} ; fund, the present generation would be called upon t.. pay a larger sum each year in order to reduce the pri n - cipal of the debt, and terminable annuities required tile, action of the same principle. In order to give effect far as possible to the principle of terminable aneuitie it was decided, after mature and careful deliberation on the part of her Majesty's Government, that a poriion ai the loan should be raised by terminable annuities, ai td that the remainder should be reduced by annual pa_r• ments of 1,000,0110/., commencing with the close of at.) present war. There could be no doubt whatever but that at the close of the war this sum of 1,000,0001 could be very easily raised, and if any season of r(-vers€ should occur it 'would be perfectly competent for Podia - meet to repeal this clause. The house shortly afterwards adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS-YESTERDAY. The SPZAICER took the chair at four o'clock. The following bills were read a third time and passed —Ashton-under-Lyne Gas and Water ; Kilmarnc el( Gas ; Regent's Canal (Hertford Union Canal); Salisbury and Yeovil Railway. The following bills were considered and ordered to b e read a third time :—Kelso Bridge ; South Wales Rz►il way (Consolidation) ; Waterford and Limerick Railway The following bills were read a second time :—Tierb3 - shire, Staffordshire, and Worcestershire Railway (No. 2) ; Grand Surrey Canal (No. 2) ; Southampton Pm 14g Trust, Saint Pancras. (Cheers from the Ministerial side.) I would not shut the door to any possible negotiation by such measures as those into which the right hon. gentleman would wish to drive her Majesty's "Government. (Hear.) We sai.i, sir, that we would produce the protocols. Those protocols shall be produced, and when they are produced it will be for the house to determine whether they think it advisable to take any steps founded thereupon. We are anxious to give to this house and to the country all the information we think consistent with the public interests and consistent with the possibility of any future amicable arrangement of those differences which have compelled us to embark in a great and arduous contest. While, on the one hand, we are determined to continue that contest, so long as it shall be inevitably necessary, in a manner consistent with the honour, the dignity, and the interests of the country, so, on the other hand, we shall not be the parties to shut the door to the possibility of concluding an honourable and sa tisfactory peace. (Hear, and cheers.) knew what the consequences would be. He had opposed the war. Ho thought it might have been avoided, but as it had commenced it should be conducted with vigour and effect. The honour and character of the country were sacrificed by the mode in which,it was conducted. England should de pend on its own resources. They heard every day of new French battalions being sent out, but they never heard of any fresh English battalion ; and why, because they bad no more men, from the mismanagement of their resources. He had fait it his duty to bring this matter under the notice of the house, because he believed the indignation of the country would not be much longer restrained. He begged to ask what measures, if any, were in contempla tion on the part of the Government to restore the efficiency of the militia force ? LORD DUNDONALD'S INVENTION. Mr. FRENCH said he rose to put a question to the First Lord of the Treasury, of which he had given notice some days ago. He might remind the house that, after an ex penditure of some 30,000,0001. upon the conduct of the war, the result, if not humiliating to this country, had at least been most unsatisfactory. He believed the number of available British bayonets in the Crimea did not exceed by more than 1,000 what it was when the battle of Inker man was fought ; that the army was still unable to take the field for want of the means of transport ; that a large portion of the cavalry was still dismounted ' • that a con siderable body of the Artillery was without horses ; and that, according to the statement of the First Lord of the Admiralty the other night, the only possible road by which our army could take the field—namely, that by Macken zie's Farm—had been occupied by a force of between 50,000 and 60,000 Russian troops. The public out of doors would hold that house responsible iE they allowed a Government to remain is power which, failing to conclude an honourable peace, neglected any means that might be placed at its disposal calculated to bring the war to a speedy and successful termi nation. The plan to which his qestion referred was one that had been long prepared and well matured by one who had had great experience in naval warfare and in attacks upon fortified places. Lord Dundonald had dis tinguished himself by hie exploits in the Basque Roads and the Bay of Callao, and on other occasions, and he (Mr. French) would venture to Say that in respect of scientific acquirements, professional knowledge, and personal gal lantry, the noble lord had not a superior, if, indeed, he had an equal, among living men. One of Lord Dun donald's most uncompromising political opponents, Sir A. Alison, speaking of him under his earlier title as Lord Cochrane, said that he was, after the death of Nelson, the greatest naval commander of that age of glory—equal to his great predecessor in personal gallantry, enfhusiestic ardour, and devotion to his country, and perhaps his superior in original genius, in mental power, and inex haustible resources. He (Mr. French) had said that the plan of the noble lord had been long considered and well matured. So far back as the reign of George IV., at the request of that Sovereign, Lord Dun donald's plen was submitted to Admirals Lord Exmouth and Keith,and such was their opinion of the terrific efficiency of the noble earl's invention, that they expressed their opi nion that, for the welfare of the human race, it was advis able that the noble lord should carry his secret to the grave. The noble lord at that time acquiesced in this view ; but last year seeing the predicament in which his country wasplaced, and being anxious to promote the cause of civilisation against barbarism, he tendered his plan and his personal services to the late Government without fee or reward. He at the same time offered his services to go to the Baltic and destroy Crenstadt. To these tenders he got no answer, but a reference was made to three admirals and two scientific persons. These admirals were of opinion that at present it was not expedient to carry the plan into effect ; but he believed the scientific men gave it as their opinion that the force employed by the noble and gallant lord would be per fectly irresistible. On the return of Sir C. Napier from the Baltic the plans were shown to him, and, after giving them the fullest consideration, he came to the conclusion, as he was informed, that the noble lord was able to carry out every theig ho undertook to accomplish. (Hear.) It was in these circumstances that he now wished to put a question to the Government. The Government might, on the ground of the high reputation of the noble lord (Dundonald) have sat ely availed themselves of the plans which he had sub mitted to them ; but they had forced him to divulge those plans to seven or eight persons, and it might possibly be that the first experiment they heard of them would be in the destruction of our own forces. (Hear.) If the noble lord would state that the Government were determine I not to give a trial to the plans of the noble and gallant admiral, it would be easy for him to appeal to the country, and to obtain a surn of money sufficient to enable him to carryout those plans in defiance of the apathy and indifference of the Government. (Hear, hear.) The question he had to put was, what steps had been taken, and what decision, if any, had been come to in relation to the proposal made by the Earl of Dundonald for the destruction of the Russian fortresses? Lord PALMERSTON—Having already made a speech upon the motion before us, it is only by the indulgence of the house that I can be permitted to give an answer to the question put by my hon. friend. I trust, however, that the house will not refuse to grant me that indulgence. No man can entertain a higher opinion than I do of Lord Dundonald. I have the pleasure and honour of his ac quaintance for a great number of years. He stands as high as any man ever did stand in his profession with re gard to naval affairs ; he is a man, moreover, of great and extensive scientific attainments, and therefore any opinion deliberately entertained by him is entitled to the highest and fullest consideration of the Government. The plan which Lord Dundonald proposed last year was, as my hon. friend states, necessarily submitted to the considera tion of a certain number of professional and scientific per sons ; and the effect of their inquiries and consideration was that there appeared to be such difficulties of execution and such doubtful expectations as to the result that nothing was then done upon it. The p'an has recently been again pressed on the consideration of the Government by Lon! Dundonald. The matter is still under their consi deration, and is far from being so free from doubts and difficulties as my hon. friend seems to imagine. But all I can say is, that it is under consideration ; and I think that if there is a plan from Lord Dundonald or any other persoli which is calculated to accomplish the ends and objects stated by my hon. friend, there can be no great advantage in publicly discussing it, or pointing out to the enemy against whom it would be employed either the probability of its immediate execution, or anything which might enable them to guess the manner in which it might be applied. COLONEL CROMBIE. Mr. H. BARING asked the Under-Secretary for War whether it was the fact that Colonel Crombie, late of the Coldstream Guards, was placed on the half-pay list in con sequence of ill-health, and at his own express desire? He was induced to ask this question in consequence of a statement made the other night by the hon. member for Aylesbury, that Col. Crombie was compelled to tender his resignation, and was not aware that he had been put on the half-pay list till he saw his name in the Gazette. Mr. PEEL understood this question to have been put in consequence of a statement made by the hon. member for Aylesbury, to the effect that Colonel Crombie had been obliged to go upon half-pay in order that promotion might be given to certain officers below him. He need not say that that statement was entirely inaccurate, nor could he add anything to what was stated the other evening by his hon. and gallant relative the member for Huntin,,eiton. It appeased that Colonel Crombie having suffered from bad health while at Varna, and being incapacitated from ser vice in the Crimea, wished to retire on half-pay ; and, so far from getting the first notice of his being put on half pay from the Gazette, he had been expecting it ever since the month of January last. (Hear.) THE MILITIA, Mr. H. BAILLIE, in rising to call the attention of the house to the state of the militia force in the United King dom, regretted that he was forced to bring so important a subject before the house in such a manner. The house wa s aware that in consequence of a doubt existing as to whether a certain portion of the militia force was under the act liable to be called on for service for a longer period than 56 days, Government decided to allow those in that posi tion to return home. A large number availed themselves of the opportunity, and the result was, the militia force was in a complete state of disorganisation, and very much reduced in numbers. That condition was in a great mea sure to be attributed to the conduct of the Government in not availing themselves of the powers entrusted to them by act of Parliament. When the hon. member for Midhurst introduced the bill, he stated there were two modes of raising a militia ; one, voluntary enlistment; the other the ballot. The voluntary system was, no doubt, sufficient to secure the efficiency of the force in time of peace, when it was a matter of indifference whether the force numbered 50, 60, or 70 thousand men. In time of war, it was of the greatest possible importance that the militia should be maintained at its full complement, because on its effi ciency depended their means of keeping up the numbers of the army. 16 was obvious to every one that a system of voluntary enlistment for the militia must enter into direct competition with the enlistment for the army—the two could not be successfully berried on together. As soon as the war broke out, Government ought to have taken immediate steps for carrying out the ballot. It was said 6 months would be required to prepare the machinery; but although 6 months had elapsed, nothing had been done. The result was that the militia force was so re duced that at present be believed it did not muster 30,000 men. The deficiency in the army was still greater. He had heard on good authority that the army was now 41,00 men below the complement voted by Parliament; and although the Government asserted that recruiting was going on most favourably, he believed that the weekly returns did not show a number more than sufficient to supply the casualties that were daily occur ring. The casualties of the army in time of peace were 24,000 men a year, and they must now be at least 35,000. When the noble lord was selected to form a go vernment, it was considered that the selection was based on the prevalent opinion that he was a man who would carry on the war with energy and vigour; but he (Mr. Baillie) was at a loss to see in what that. energy and vi gour consisted. He thought even the Government of Lord Aberdeen had displayed more vigour. They had sum moned Parliament at a most unusual period, in order to take measures for raising a foreign legion ; and although the act was passed five months ago, it was only within the last ten days that any steps had been taken by the noble lord to carry it into execution. The noble lord had, indeed, told them that the language used in that house had prevented the Germans from enlisting, but they might hive got men elsewhere. He knew for a fact, that a distin guished Swiss officer had come to this country to offer the services of a body of Swiss troops ; but he was kept for weeks waiting for an answer from the Government. If no Germans were to be had, how did it happen that the noble lord had within the last ten days signed a capitulation of agreement with a Brunswick general, who was to raise a body of troops of which he was to have the command? What was the condition of the administrative departments at the present moment ; what was the state of the War Depart ment ? He believed it had been in a more efficient state in the time of the Duke of Newcastle. The noble lord the mem ber for the city of London had shown himself very vigilant in looking after the Duke of Newcastle. (Hear.) lie hoped he would be equally vigilant in looking after Lord Pan mum (Hear.) They had lately had a sample of the way in which affairs were conducted at the War-office. A state ment bed appeared to the effect that a large body of the Guards had been sent to Portsmouth in a great hurry to v e m o b s a l rk, but u t l h l a o t f Nhn other ve d t h e t el e 2 there, o n t t s.T h they found i detachments the o ots were put on shore, and then the Guards were embarked, but without their baggage, leaving behind their clothes, and even their shoes, and having the old muskets ofs to s t t re d o other e r M h i e r . i es The m T i h n i s te statementsaid k w n a e s w a n d o v e t b r t i e n ( g l couldt e fart ,butv e ho occurred. i d n o G t think r ea t for Lord Panniure, as his health would not allow him to l t o p w o a s n s ?ole ought that s t u o c b h e t i h n i tt n ( g i e s devote all his time to the duties of his office ; but while the department was in such a state, the noble lord the member for London ought to take it under his protection. The militia ought at once to be brought up to its full com plement. It would, no doubt, be inconvenient to have re course to the ballot, but when the country went to war it Mr. F. PEEL believed he was irregular in. again address ing the house, but the hon. member had been more irregu lar in the number of topics he had introduced. He had fallen into several errors. It was not true that no English soldiers bad been sent out within the last two months ; upwards of 10,000 men had gone from this country. The hon. gentleman had referred to the embarkation of the troops on board the Alma. The fact had been repeatedly explained. The difficulty simply arose in this manner : the officers at Liverpool reported the vessel to be capable of carrying a certain number of t roops; w h en t h e vesse l ar rived at Portsmouth the officials there considered she could not take so large a number. Under these circum stances, a number of detachments of other regiments were landed, and the Guards placed on board. It would of course have been in the power of the Government to have carried out their original intention, but the result might have been great sickness and mortality amongst the troops in consequence of overcrowding. As to the foreign legion, it was not true that several officers had teen refused com missions to raise men under the act. Two or three officers had lately proceeded to Germany to enlist men, and in a very short time depots would be established at Heligoland and in this country. The hon. gentleman had referred to the state of the militia. It was the intention of the Go vernment to take every means in their power to place that force in an effective state, for the progress of the war had brought out their dependence 'on it." When the army was sent abroad the number of regiments of infantry of the line usually kept in this country was so much reduced that it became necessary to embody a number of militia regiments , and place several of them in garrison to perform the duties hitherto discharged by the infantry of the line. Lately, in consequence of the necessity of reinforcing the army in the Crimea, the garrisons in th e M e dit erranean h a d be e n reduced below their usual strength. In consequence of that reduction au appeal had been made under the act of Parlia ment to the militia regiments in this country to volunteer for service abroad; several regiments had volunteered, and two or three had already left this country to reinforce the garrisons at Gibraltar and Corfu. It. was no doubt true, as had been stated by the hon. gentleman, that a considerable inroad had been made upon the effectiveness of the militia force of this country, in consequence of the discussions which had recently taken place with respect to the act of 1854; but he did not conceive that the Government was at all responsible for what had happened under that act, nor did he think it was open to them to take any other course than that which they had pursued. As regarded that ques tion the casewas simply this. The men who weve embodied prior to the passing of the act of 1854 offered their services under the impression, he might even say on the understand ieg, that they would only be liable to be called out for train ing for a period of from 21 to 56 days in the year, and would be liable to be called out for permanent duty only iu the event of this country being threatened with an invasion. Now, he had no doubt that, considering how important an event that was, many persons joined the militia prior to the passing of the act of 1854, under the persuasion that they would not lose their civil employments by entering that force. The act of 1854 altered the conditions of service. That act authorised the embodying of the militia at any time when thiscountry wasat war, and thecountry happened to be at war at the time when it passed. Then the question arose whether that act ha 1 a retrospective effect. The law officers of the crown were consulted on the subject, and they gave a decided opinion that the act did apply to the men who were enrolled prior to its being passed, in fact, that its operation was retrospective. If, therefore, the militia had refused to servefor more than 56days, the government would have been prepared with an answer. He thought, however, the house must bo of opinion that nothing was more likely to conduce to the effectiveness of the militia than the maintenance of confidence between that force and the government of the country, and that this would not have been secured by arbitrarily taking advantage of the act which had been passed in opposition to the understanding with which the men joined. Under these circumstances a circular was issued, giving to the men the op•ion of re turning home after they had served days, or else of being reattested for the unexpired period of service, receiving an additional bounty of one pound, in consideration of the enlarged liability which they contracted under the act of 1851. No doubt the militia very largely availed themselves of that circular. A great number of the men returned to their homes, and the militia regiments—although none of them were actually broken up—bad suffered considerable diminution. The hon. gentleman proposed to resort t the ballot as a means of supplying the loss which had been thus occasioned. The fact , was that the ballot would not answer the purpose. Themenwho weregone to their homes remained upon the effective strength of their regiments, and when the period came round next year for their 56 days' service they would be called upon to join their regi ments. Consequently the ballot could not be had recourse to for the purpose of supplying the places of these men, unless they ware discharged altogether ; and their could be no doubt that, if this step were taken, the first duty of the Government, considering the inconvenience of having re course to the ballot, would be to ascertain whether their places could not be supplied by the same process by which they originally joined, namely, voluntary enlistment. If the Government failed in that attempt they might then have recourse to the ballot. He admitted that even including the menwhohad gone backto their homes, the effective strength of the militia regiments was considerably belowtheestablimh ment. The act of Parliament authorised the levy of 80,000 men for England and Wales. At no time, he thought, bad there been more than from 45.000 to 50,000 men actually enrolled, and that number had lately suffered a considerable diminution, owing to the circumstance that so great a num ber of men had returned to their homes. The present strength of the militia regiments in this country did not ex ceed 25,000 men. There was one very important considera tion in the case. Great complaints had been made in con sequence of militiamen having been placed on billets. The practice gave great dissatisfaction to the householders upon whom the men were billeted; and it was equally objec tionable on account of its demoralising effect on the men themselves. At that moment, of the 25,000 men whom he had mentioned as being under arms in England and Wales, there were not more than 6,000 in garrison ; the remaining 19,000 being on billets. Every endeavour was being made by the government to obtain barracks and hired accommo dation for the militia, both in this country and in Scot land; and he thought it would be unwise to have recourse to the ballot for the purpose of obtaining a larger number of men than could, for some time at least, be provided with barrack accommodation. Colonel KNOX thought that no answer had been given to the question of his hon. friend. (Hear.) What his hon. friend wanted to know, and what the country wanted to know, was what steps the Government were taking in order to put the militia regiments on a proper footing. Colonels of miltia were constantly'writing to the War-office for assistance, and could get no answer. If the War-office were unable to attend to the details connected with the militia, it was, he thought, incumbent on the noble lord at the head of the Government at once to obtain a general staff for that force, which should receive all reports and administer the affairs of the militia under the authority of the Home-office. At present the militia was at a dead lock, whereas it certainly might be made a most efficient force. A noble lord, who was the colonel of the Donegal Militia, had stated that ho had 1,100 men, who were sleep ing four or five in a bed, and were living like pigs.' (Laughter.) He had applied to the War-office for aid, and had obtained no reply. The militia force was like the regular army, paralysed, and he wanted to know what the Government were doing to place it quickly on an efficient footing. The hon. gentleman (Mr. F. Peel) said that 10,000 men had left this country in the last two months. He should be glad to have a return with regard to those men, as the numbers appeared to him rather exaggerated. Mr. BENTINCK said there was one statement of the Under-Secretary at War, which appeared to him especially to require explanation ; he referred to his declaration that he hoped that in a short time depots would be formed for the troops to be obtained under the Foreign Enlistment Bill. A speciA session was held at the close of last year for the express purpose of passing that measure, and they had not yet heard of any progress being made in carrying it out. They were now told by the hon. gentleman, at the expiration of a period of five months, that he hoped to be able at some future time to state to the house that depots were being established for the troops enlisted under that act. If that was a sample of the activity and energy of the Government in the prosecution of- the war, it was not very likely to be brought to a speedy or satis factory termination. (Hear, hear.) He thought he had a right to ask the Government to state what had led to such an apparently unaccountable delay ? Colonel GILPIN said, in consequence of what had fallen from the hon. and gallant member (Colonel Knox), he rose to state, that having, as a colonel of militia, had frequent communications with the War-office, he had always met with the greatest courtesy and attention. (Hear, hear.) As an independent member, and a general opponent of the Government, he felt bound to make this acknowledgment. (Hear.) He hoped that if the troops were to remain at Aldershott during the next winter, accommodationb o e n t l t y er ofeetby would be provided for the officers, the size of the hut s which they occupied at present being 10. Col. NORTH said that, as a colonel of militia, he had re ceived the greatest possible assistance from the War-office. Mr. BELLEW said, having the honour to hold a com mission in an English militia regiment, be wished to know when the militia were to go to Aldershott, as he expe rienced great evils through the billeting system. He would also inquire whether the Government intended that all the militia regiments of Ireland should be station-A at the Curragh of Kildare. The Government should hear in mind the antagonism between certain classes of Irishmen. The Irishmen of the south and west could not possibly be prevented from quarrelling with the Irishmen of the north of Ireland. (Laughter.) Mr. COWAN trusted that before long the billetting system would be abolished in Scotland. He had submitted to Lord Panmure a letter from a billet master of Edin burgh, who acted under the authority of the commission ers of polite, containing some valuable suggestions on the subject, which Mr. Rau say, his lordship's private secre tary, had informed him were likely to be adopted Sir J. WALSH complained that no answer had been given to the question of the hon. member for Inverness, whether the Government contemplated any measures, and if so what measures, to restore the militia to a state ofefficiency.relntary at War,thecles desponding it wasdiugand gloomy statement o f th e Under confessed that the effec tive force of the militia was reduced to 25,000 men, while there had been no contradiction of his hon. friend's (Mr. Baillie) statement, that the regular army was 40,000 under the numbers voted by Parliament. If the present conflict was to go on i and England was to maintain her position as a first-rate power, much more energetic measures must bo adopted than any which had been seen hitherto. All the exertions marlb up to this time were puny and insignificant compared with the nature of the contest in which they were engaged, or the efforts put forth at previous periods. Mr. OTWAY said if the country was unable to keep up a sufficient military force,- the sooner it retired from the contest in which it was engaged the better. (Hear.) He had put a question on ,the paper that morning to be ad dressed to the First Lord of the Treasury ; and be should now refer to thesubject incidentally, because he understood that the noble lord was precluded by the forms of the house from, giving a reply. He wished to know whether the Government considered that it became the dignity of this country to enter into a sort of surreptitious war. Had the agents of this country in Germany the sanction of the sove reigns of Germany for seeking to enrol their subjects ? He asked this question because it appeared that this country , bad already been subjected to some humiliation by pro ceedings of that kind. At New York the authorities had interposed to prevent the enrolment of men by an agent of this country; and in that friendly power, Prtuisia, a decree ' had been issued for the same purpose. He wished to know whether, while we were sending agents to German states to enrol soldiers, we were so doing with the cognisance of the sovereigns of these states. The Marquis of GRANBY said that it seemed to him most important that every facility should be given to men to be re-attested in the militia. He had heard, however, that after 26 days no militiaman was allowed to be re attested, and he should be glad to know whether that was the case. Mr. H. HERBERT felt certain that it would be very impolitic to join in one Irish corps militiamen of different religions and feelings. He felt certain that great discords would arise in those regiments in which men from the north and from the soutb were both to be found. As an instance, he might mention that being in an hotel one day in the south of Ireland he had mentioned the matter quite by hazard, and he was instantly met by such an outburst of feeling that, had he been so inclined, a very pretty quarrel might have been the result. (Hear and laughter.) Sir G. GREY rose to answer the questions which had been addressed to the Government by different hon. mem bers in the course of the present discussion. An hon. member opposite had complained that his hon. friend (Mr. F. Peel) had not given the information which had been re quired of him with regard to the militia, and that especi ally he had not stated the intentions of the Government with regard to the ballot. Now he (Sir G. Grey) had un derstood his hon. friend distinctly to state that her Ma jesty's Government did not consider that the time had yet come when recourse to that system would be found ab solutely necessary. (Hear.) In confirmation of that state ment, he could now state that from official documents it appeared that a considerable increase in voluntary enlist ment in the militia had taken place within the last month. Another hon. gentleman had stated that in his opinion a separate staff ought to be organised for the militia. But that hon. gentleman should bear in mind that the militia, when embodied, became a portion of the military force of the nation, and as such subject to the same departments as the other portions of the army. With regard to the question of billeting, he admitted, that many evils at tached to that system, and before the militia was embodied (and hence was still under the control of the Home-office), he had received many valuable communications from colo nels of regiments upon the subject. He quite concurred in the justice of the complaint then made to him, and had accordingly taken the opportunity of placing the matter before the War Department. He could assure the house not only that the matter had not been lost sight of, but there was every wish on the part of the Government to pro vide the required barrack accommodation. While upon this subject, he might mention to the house that from a return which his hon. friend (Mr. F. Peel) had procured since he addressed the house, it appeared that the number of militia under arms in the United Kingdom was 42,351. With regard to the permission to re-attest, to which refer ence had been made by the noble lord opposite (the Mar quis of Granby) the case stood thus. One month's leave of absence was now giien to militiamen, within which period they must make up their minds as to re-attesting or not. This give them an opportunity of visiting their friends and of giving ample consideration to the matter, while it prevented men from coming in after a long lapse of time and claiming the bounty. Another hon. gentleman (Mr. Otwayi,has asked a question with regard to the fo reign enrolv4t. That hon. member appeared to think that the Gcv4rnment were proceeding to do too much ; while, on tlie - Other hand, an hon. member opposite (Mr. Baillie) censured them for doing too little. The fact was that difficulty had arisen in working the Foreign. Enlist ment Act by reason of the debates which had taken place in that house and elsewhere before that act passed. Many persons who had promised assistance to the Government, and who had even offered to raise men, had held back when they were treated and • spoken of as mercenaries Nor could it be overlooked that the denial of half-pay to officers had operated as a great discouragement. At the same time, he, was now happy to say that the Government Thad received renewed offers of assistance, and that agents had been appointed, natives of foreign countries, for the purpose of enrolling men. Of course, in taking these steps, the laws of continental countries would not be broken through. He believed he had now replied to all the ques tions which had been put by hon. members. Mr. WALPOLE asked if the right hon. gentleman could state the number of militiamen actually enrolled ? Sir G. GREY could not at that moment give the re quired information. Sir J. PAKINGTON had heard a report that 25,000 men were expected to arrive from Germany quite unex pectedly. (Roars of laughter.) He wished to know whe ther this was so? Sir G. GREY had not heard of any such expected arrival. Mr. ADDERLEY wished to call the attention .of the house to a proposition for availing ourselves of the services of convicts in the Crimea. There were at the present mo ment 10,000 convicts in the Government prisons, and this amount was being recruited at the rate of 400 a-year. A great number of these convicts—as many he believel as 2,000 annually—were being turned adrift upon society under letters of licence. The proposition which he now made had been brought under the attention of the Duke of Newcastle when he held office, but nothing had been done upon it, There was little doubt but that great evils arose from the present system of tickets of leave, and had not the excitement of the war turned public attention from it, the house would have had the matter forced upon its consideration. But, in truth, the war was the very reason for considering the subject, for it afforded a means of dealing with the matter which could not occur in a time of peace. At the very time when these convicts, able - bodied men, were turned adrift, without the means of doing anything for their living, the house knew that our army in the Crimea was suffering from want of men for the performance of duties which were now un dertaken by soldiers, although not properly coming within the scope of military matters. He would therefore propose that such of our convicts as were physically . fit for the duty should be sent out t o th e Crimea, to act strictly as a labour corps only, They ought not to be used in any military duty, and their pay should be upon the task-work system. He believed that by this plan at least 1,500 men could at once be sent out to the East. He had consulted various persons upon this subject, who from their know ledge of these men and the duties of a camp were compe tent to give an opinion upon the matter, and on all sides he had found the proposition received with a certain degree of favour. He saw from a report of the proceedings in another place that/ it was intended to send out a body of 2,000 navvies 'to the Easi. He thought that these men would not be so likely to be serviceable as convicts, for they would not be amenable to military discipline—cer tainly not to the extent to which convict labourers would be. He did not seek to raise a discussion upon the question at that time, but he should certainly take an opportunity of bringing the matter under the consideration of the house. Mr. J. O'CONNELL would not go into the proposition of the hon. gentleman, which he thought was sufficiently interesting to demand a substantive motion; he only wished to refer to what had been said in the earlier part of the evening with regard to the militia regiments in Ireland. Hon. members had said that great danger would arise if the inhabitants of the northern and southern parts were brought together in one regiment. He denied that this was so. He belonged to a militia regiment himself, in which there were many gentlemen of religion and politics differing very widely from his own, and he could say this, that in that corps the only thought amongst its members was the thought of doing their duty. Colonel DUNNE entirely concurred with the statements of the hon. member who had last spoken. Several subjects had been referred to in the course of that debate, which were exciting great interest throughout the country. First, as to the militia—we were certainly getting recruits, but they were mere boys ; and instead of going out to fight, they wept only to Scutari, or the grave. Then as to the foreign legion—he did not believe it would be ready in time ; and as to the Turkish legion, be knew that the Os manli would not enlist under, or take drill from, the unbe lieving Giaour. Neither was the recruiting for the cavalry going on favourably; and the reason, in his opinion, was, that the pay offered was not enough to tempt the proper class of men. Ho hoped that some member of the Gov ern ment would give some explanation- respecting the recent case of the Candia, at Woolwich ; and also state whether any tents had been this year sent out to the army in the Crimea. Sir G. GREY begged to observe, with reference to the propose' to employ convicts in the siege works, that there were two classes of convicts, those who having been sen tenced to three or four years' penal servitude had spent their whole period in prison or on the public works, and those who had letters of license corresponding to the ticket of-leave of the colonies. He thought it would be a very hazardous pi oposition for the house to entertain, that a convict having served lB.months in prison should, on the strength of a good-convict certificate while there, be per mitted to enlist into the army, and form part of its regular corps, but, with the men who having spent three or four years on the public works, had obtained a letter of liy.;ense, the case was different. That class of men were expected to obtain an honest living in this country, and if it could have been done secretly it might have been de sirable to employ them in the works connected with our large military operations in the East. But the proposal to enlist them into separate corps, to be officered by gen tlemen, had been considered by Lord Panmure, who had come to th e conc l us i on th a t it cou ld not be entertained. With respect to that very useful class of men called " navvies " the best answer to th e h on . mem b er ' s objection was the success which had already attended their employment in the Crimea. (Hear, hear.) In the con struction of the Balaklava Railway they had given the most efficient aid to the military operations, and he was informed that any number of these men might be obtained for work not purely of a military character. The SPEAKER reminded the house that orders of the day had precedence of notices of motion, whereas during the last three hours they had been discussing a motion which must be withdrawn, seeing that the house must meet to-morrow (this day) to attend a commission to give the Royal Assent to the Loan Bill. After a few words from an hon. member whose name we could not learn, Mr. MONSELL explained that when the artillery horses were about being shipped in the Candia at Woolwich, the captain remonstrated against the number about to be put on deck, and the artillery officers present immediately transmitted the objection to the transport board. With re spect to the question about tents, his reply was 2,000 single tents had been sent out since the beginning of tin@ year, the commander-in-chief having objected to double tents. Motion withdrawn. MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS. A message from the Lords brought down certain bills, including the Loan Bill. TENANT 3' COMPENSATION BILL. On the order the adjourned debate on the second reading of this bill, Mr. GEORGE strongly opposed the bill, which he cha racterised as one for transferring the land of Ireland to the tenant. He especially directed his objections against the retrospective clauses. He complained, also, of the time which the bon. and learned author of this bill had chosen for reagitating this question ; and while there •were points in the measure to which he gave his assent, he protested against the mixing up of these good measures with others that meant nothing but confiscation. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL defended both the pro spective and retrospective clauses of the bill, as consonant to the principles of natural justice, and fortified himself by the opinions of Sir Wm. Grant, Lord Eldon, and Lord Redesdale—none of them weak conservators of the rights of property—and by the opinions of all writers and expo- sitors on the principles of natural justice. He quoted the opinions of these eminent judges, which went to establish this principle, that if a landlord permitted a tenant to make improvements without remark, then he was bound to allow the tenant compensation for those improvements, either in time or in money. Mr. MALINS expressed his strong dissent from the doctrines laid down by the Solicitor-General ; and he was sure that if Sir Win. Grant and Lord Eldon could have . heard the principles attributed to them, they would have started, affrighted, from their graves. He went at great length into the pi inciples adopted by the Court of Chan cery in dealing with questions between landlord and tenant, which he said were totally opposed to these laid down by the Solicitor -General : and he was quite sure the . hon. and learned gentleman would not dare to apply such , principles to Engla n d. H e bl us h e d f or th e day when*he beard such doctrines propounded by an English lawyer, an d that lawyer, the representative of the English Govern ment. Mr. DE PERE made his maiden speech in support of the measure, which he characterised as one that had no thing to do with party, and as a fair compromise between I contending interests, which he hoped the house would, in the present tranquil condition of Ireland, press forward to a settlement. Mr. J. G. PHILLIMORE strongly opposed the retro spective clause. Mr. HOR iIAN was surprised to find how forgetful gentlemen on the other side of the house could be of what had taken place in previous sessions with regard to this subject. (Hear.) These hon. gentlemen expressed . such astonishment and indignation at the Government per mitting even the introduction of a bill described to be so monstrous in its principle and details, that one would have supposed the question of retrospective compen sation had never been heard of till the bill of his hon. and learned friend ; yet it was in its terms and in its clauses almost precisely the bill which the House of Commons passed two years ago. (Hear.) They might recollect, aiso, that it was under the Government of Lord Derby that a retrospective clause, more extensive than that in the present bill, was passed by the house. (Hear.) The prin ciple of retrospective compensation was even affirmed by the House of Lords. (Hear.) The present Government declined to take up the question, because, after what had passed during the last few sessions, they despaired of carrying a bill on the subject. It was then that his hon. and learned friend said that he would introduce a bill of his own. His bon. and learned friend accordingly intro duced a bill which, being the same in principle and in de tails with the bill whien had passed the House of Com mons, and had been affirmed by the House of Lords, it would have been a strange position for the Government to take if they were to refuse their assent to the introduction of such a bill. (Hear, hear.) What had been the history of the tenant co npensation bills? The first bill was intro duced about 20 years ago, by Mr. Sharman Crawford. Ten years after that a bill was intro luced by one of the largest proprietors in Ireland, .and by a distinguished member of the Government in 1845. In his speech on that occasion the noble lord distinctly adopted the principle or retrospective compensation, and said that the tenant ought not to be turned out of his farm without compensation, whether it was his capital or labour that he applied to its improvement. (Heal.) That was the first occasion when the principle of retrospective compensation had been advo cated in Parliament. (EU ar.) In 1852 the right hon. gentle man the then Attorney-General for Ireland (Mr. Napier) introduced three bills on the subject of landlord and tenant, and in one of those bills the principle of retrospective com pensation was laid down and carried in that house by a -majority of two to one. (Hear.) The right hon. gentlerus.n even laid it down that the retrospective compensation should be unlimited as to time. (Hear.) The year after, the initiative was 'taken by the House of Lords, and two of the bills introduced by the right hon. gentleman passed the other House of Parliament, but the Tenants' Compen sation Bill was dropp-d. Seeing that the principle of re trospective compensation had been affirmed by both houses of Parliament, the people of Ireland might justly explet to see it carried out by act of Parliament at no distant pe riod. (Hear.) The bill of the hon. and learned gentle man (Mr. Shee) was divided into prospective clauses and into retrospective clauses. About the first there was no difference of opinion on either side of the house. He ad mitted, however, that the retrospective operation of the bill was surrounded with difficulties. (Hear, hear.) His hon and learned friend (th e S o li c it or -G e neral) had ahoy+, however, that the principle of retrospective compensation was in conformity with natural justice and with the judgments of their courts of eouity. The honourable and learned member for Wallingford, however, said, that the learned judges whom his hon. and learned friend quoted, namely, Sir W. Grant and Lord Eldon, would have started from their graves had they heard the doctrine propounded that a tenant could claim compensation on being evicted from his lea , e: But his honourable and learned friend referred to evictions, not of tenants under lease, but ;of tenants at will, which was the tenure of nine-tenths of the firms in Ireland. (Hear, hear.) The relation between landlord and tenant in Ireland was quite exceptional, and therefore it might be necessary to have an exceptional Ye gislation: The fact that the proportion of landlords to the acreage of Ireland was smaller than .in any country bf Enrope was at the bottom of all the evils on this subjeot. (Hear.) In the race of competition for land, the Irith landlord, without design and withont policy on his part, became unconsciously absolved from the obligations to which landlords in other countries were subject. His became a wilderness, his estate became exhausted, and you had a miserable people competing for the high privilege bf earning a scanty subsistence from the land of their both. (Cheers.) He had never uttered, and had never entertained any sentiments disrespectful or disparaging to the land lords of Ireland. They were themselves, in many cases, the victims of the circumstances in which they were placetl, and the evil of imp o veri s hed landlords was to b e added to the evil of an impoverished tenautry. (Hear.) The reerJt was, the total disorganisation of society in Ireland. He was speaking of a period a good many years back, yeti a period within the recollection of many who sat in thjit house. There was no motive for exertion, no reward for enterprise ; property became insecure, and even life itself was not safe. Such was the description of the stake of I' - land given by Liza Earl of Derby, himself a large oro p r i e t r i f in that country, and a good landlord. Th e p easan t arm cl himself against the proprietor, and the proprietor had re course to insurrections acts, arms acts, suspension of the Habeas Corpus Act, and to martial law—on one side tlfre agitation of the people, and military viol ence on th e othe4.. That state of things happily passed away. The people improved in condition, habits, and character, and th e proprietors became live to a sense of duty. (Hear, hear.) They bestirred themselves to the performance of thei r duties in a manner that did them great honor, and a ground of hope w as th us o p ene d u p for the people. There never was an instance on record of a change so sudden and so happy in its effects ; and it was that which cast upon them the duty and responsibility of fostering that change. (Hear.) He should be indeed sorb , if any party feelings prevented them from promoting it. The bill was open to several, but not very serious, objec tions, and unless these wero removed he would not feel justified in voting for it. He would state his grounds of objection. The first was, the bill pointed out a certain class of improvements, for which it proposed to give com pensation. He thought all improvements for which com pensation was granted ought to be tangible and material, which might be easily estimated ; in the former there were the clams; buildings, wards, and boundary fences ; the bill added drainage. (Sergeant Shee, " That was in the former bill.") That might be, but he objected to allowing compensation for reclaiming .waste lands. His next objec tion was, that the 14th clause allowed compensation for all improvements made before the passing of the act. He attached considerable importance to the objection of the hon. member for Wexford as to the amount of litigation that it would produce-- (hear)—and the advantages that attended the bill in some respects would be more than counterbalanced by the insecurity the clause would give rise to. He would suggest that a p er i o d s h ou ld be filed beyond which compensation would not run. (Hear, bear.) He would suggest as an amendment that the amount of compensation should be limited to a certain sum —say so many years' rent ; the number could be determined in committee. He also considered that compensation ought never to be given to a tenant evicted for breach of contract or non-payment of rent. If these objections were obviated, the Government were prepared not only to give their sup port to the bill in that and the other house, but to forward it by every means in their power. He would not ask his hon. friend the member for Kilkenny to make these changes in 'his bill • he left the question in the hands of tile house. The Government were anxious to carry the matter to a successful issue, and not perpela Jo a sham by making a parade of a measure they knew they could not carry. Government were pi epared honestly and fairly to take up the bill if the provision to which they could not heartily assent were struck out. If the house thought that the bill ought to be p]a ed in their bands with such conditions and limitations as that they could honestly support it, and see their way to a successful issue, they were prepared to give it every support ' both in that and i n th e o th er h ouse of Parliament, w hi c h it could derive from being in the hands of the Government. Having said this much, he would leave the question with the house, g ge y t FE i ng Y t denouncedthose a.,terat alterations i n conduct the b bill, t a h n e dca lGovernmentled upon for M sur. D Messrs. Keogh, Fitzgerald, and Ball to redeem the pledges they gave to the p eo pl e o f I re l an d at the last election, and resign their places i n a G overnment that would not ' support this bill as it stood. Mr. H. A. HERBERT would support the second read ing, though he anticipated but little benefit from it's ope ration. Lord CLAUDE HAMILTON contrasted the speeches of Mr. Horsman and the Solicitor-General, and sail the lat ter had gone far to embitter the whole question. With the suggestions of the Iri h Secretary he generally agreed, and, trusting that his amendments would. bo carried in committee, he would recommend his friends to allow the bill to be read a second time without dividing. Sir J. FITZGERALD supportel the bill. L; rd PALMERSTON—Sir, as there is so general an agree ment on the second reading of this bill—(no, and cheers)-- I do not say there is a unanimous agreement—but as the great majority of this house are agreed on the second read ing of this bill, I hope that the house will determine to proceed with the second reading this evening. The course which her Majesty's Government are prepared to take on this bill has been fully explained by my right hon. friend the Secretary for Ireland, and I have nothing to add on that point to the statement which he has made. I have heard it said that this is not the proper time for settling these disputes, but I think the time is peculiarly favourable. This is a subject which has agitated the public mind of Ireland for many years, and which gave rise to the greatest animosities, and to strong differences o' opinion. The present moment is, as has been said, n-t one in which these differences of opinion irelikely to rise to the same height; there is a general content in Ireland; and this altogether a time when you will find the minds of men disposed to come calmly to the consideration of any reason able proposition. It is true that this bill contemplates. a condition of things in Ireland different from what °sista in England or Scotland ; but that arises not hem any fault of the landlords or the tenants. I concur entirely in wnat has been stated by the hon. member who has just sat down, that there are in Ireland landlords as good as those to be found in any other country. I undertake to say tiles there are landlords in Ireland better, and who do more for their tenants than any landlords in England or Scotland. There are, doubtless, exceptions—landlords who, from their limited means, are unable tq, do that for their tenants which they ought or could wish—but Irepudiate altogether the wholesale abuse which has been lavished at times on the landlords of Ireland as a body of proprietors. (Hear.) On the oth er h an d I re p u di a t e th e c h arges which have been made against the tenantry of Ireland, and I believe they are as capable of industrious energy as any tenantry in the world. The evils of Ireland are to be traced in tse former history of that country. "What has been that history? It has been a record of civil war, of rebellion, of 'confiscation, of penal laws, of exclusion of the largest part of the nation from the privileges of social exertion, and of the domination of a majorityto the religion of a minority. All these things had excited bitter animosities ; but these animosities have passed and are extinguished, with some differences. There still remains some defects, and they belong to a condition of things which this bill is designed toremedy. In Ireland, up to half a century ago, the land was not held in the way in which it is occupied in England andfolcotland. Lands in that country were let to one person, who sublet them to one or more persons, who snbletted them again, and thus by 2 or 3 gradations middle men were Interposed between the landlord and the occupier. Then what was the tenure of the land in Ireland ? The leases were at first given at a preposterous length—for 61 years, or three lives. The landlord was then a stranger on his own estate nod he had no interest in the occupying tenant, and the occupy i ng tenant bad no affection for him. There was, in fact, no person interested in the improvement of the country. Why should the landlord see to the improvement of the land ? Why should the middle man ? Why should the oc cupying tenant, who was too peer to - do so ? Therefore, the greater part of Ireland was in that condition, that there were no persons connected with the ownership who were interested in the improvement of the estates. When these ion Imo expireit the landlords went to the other ox• ..../ _ ....--------------- . ....• treme ; they wonid then only give shirt lea tenants than re ue 1. to take thes3 leasei viwiefor England and ScOtl ,nd are considered sufficleot--10 isbit -fortrb,-en-or twentr-rne veers. That gen rated llie,_`A, 0 which the Irish landlord has, and is the caw° th 4: 0 1 1 74 little for the improvement of the land, such '' :tits vibicii` houses and making fences, and other improvetneo Part of this bill contet;opl t a So far as the prospee,ti,ve P-Part to the bill goes nobody ae seems to object it. The 1 e ar, which objection is felt is the retrospective claus.et..:_j„ hear.) As a general principle, I it that i l 0 7" o arable to interfere between landlords and event o° between other parties, and that the best arralig, t o o, I leave the parties free; (Hear, hear.) In P rinclP tte ° lie admit it is objectionable to alter retrospectively ,oto on which they have acted in settling the ielatio°ll:4 to themselves. Still, on, the other hand, I thin k ' re e f e rrea ta the peculiar condition of Ireland which I halo iialos• —that the land is generally held by one who hsiMiplist diate interest in the improvements, arid that-a ° °:,i f o tb! tenant is obliged to make outlays in order t°"" — , thP due cultivation of the soil—that a departure fifyigooll principle is justifiable in this case. I thiah th,e,..17010011 of this bill, coupled with the restrictions itila Too fill indicated by my right hon. friend, will g ive (, re er ry compensation which are equitable, and the fu u_ ve ,,ol lion of which must he a visible and tangible ill'i n ' t. WV B in h otuhledrtehlsetlisonndal landlord w tu e r e n n tthheetlandlord u out? ln dEtithheetretnh3deni:filiciii J o r ,: i has aquarrel with his tenant, and desires to get t o w ait' or, seeing the tenant improving the properil, t% or t'ir w wishes to get the benefit of the imProve -outs, 1 ~ 0 0 , 01 relet it at a higher rent. The latter 'Would be a 1 1 . 1 000 01! proceeding on the part of any 'audio' d, and: D u l t h e Po' landlord would resort to it. But with reeli t t° ee W ith case, supposing the landlord has had some differt honest his tenant, and should say that he must g° , *n oV that the tenant has erected good buildings, 6 , 01 f'„ man would in such a case say of such a tent'n", be i 37 turn him out, but I will not v.pproPriae the g i o f b ,5 . :1 expended in these improvements; I will get '00,0,,„ but I will not deprive him of the benefit of Ili u n p ro 6t; o turn all his labour and expenditure to iiil e° B , i l icli l l,l (Hear, hear.) Accompanied by the provisi°°", o wl: a . been sketched out by my right hon. friend, i-, wo rt i' ll i even the retrospective clause might be Made ' l3. llo oer t oo vantageously. If this bill be accompanied 1)1 s o tb before the house, I think they will go far to ted ise lsi l i ot unfortunate differences which have so lung eg ita ol a t o rd If they would lead to the introduction into Ire the iso d e l a to system which prevails in England, by.w biell calti l 'i t e 0 erects on his farms those buildings which ar e o f re°' -f gef , increase the value of the estate, and to tenures l og 1 0 0 duration, instead of the tenancy at will or the r.) 1 0 it would be a great improvement. (g ear ' . 13 f tb' sof disposed not only to support the second readily:. ° „.bicli it but if the house will agree to the am my oleo right hon. friend has suggested, I will 0 1 1 will In to it, and I hope that thus amended the,b c i bee rs.) f 11 0 course of the session be passed into law. t ,divs ° o p. Mr. I. BUTT would support the second re , t the y bill, and reminded his Conservative friends ported the retrospective clause in Mr. NePler'isd beer eP- Colonel DUNNE opposed the bill, as 10 ' a o f tI3 I the bill brought in by Mr. Napier. 0 5 a lit. Mr. Sergeant SHEE would give the suggc,oo bre Government a fair consideration when they '` it li up in the shape of clauses in committee. o d tlis t Mr GROGAN opposed the bill, a nd po ° a pi read a second time that day six months. o f 11 6 3 After some further conversation, the house f 1 63 the bill was read a second time by a Insior:mittee' 0 The Custonis Duties Bill went througlide;'obililleir The other business was disposed o f, an journed. ------n"""''-'-n.'—'—''''.-----". COUNTRY VABIZO. There was a smaII LIVE atßteinatir—ce:lainAdith4° 1), * P i 13 r jecl l: l3 wheat an and flour merely vtail, at Tuesdol a boi / and oatmeal in moderate request, at fll. D ot s fo ji , „ ° to any s, and peas neglected, but holders es ofiCer redaction. There wens very few as rated corn offering, and orders could not be esec, per qr. for yellow, and 485 6d for white and WAKEFIELD -3W 2' rs otigtil'e . 0 A moderate attendance of buyers, bat I,_ a _ e t 3s per qr. more for wheat than the prical_Tiner business was checked. Barley ls, and be, uer`iirto shelling (per load) is to 2s dearer. Oats id P fro° 0 ° EXETEIt-MAY oted -. ~ cl "0 be 4 11 •, ii iieb o j tO CORN.-In our market wheat map 0 30 ' o to a l t O o s 0 6:1 0 . c. Halting oats b , a3rlsey3,d4stoOd3stoate 61- - up i ; 0 .11 grI S:: 0 1 5d 4 4/ Od. Peas, 00s Od to 60s Od ociFpLeorusßa.e-.Fine, 58s Od to 5N Od ; s s c e o d r : c g o ' escroir d re , :il e A . ti ti CATTLE.-Prime beef, 10s Od per tO 53d PI ,sta b° ' 0 121. 12s to 151. ; butchers' calves, 5- 4 71d. - ea ch'4 / 1:1 calves 00s to 00s each. Sheep, 6 0 i f °, to og 4 0 fid per lb.. Store hogs,. large size', ug h Pitt 25s to 40s ; small 00s to Uos. score • Pork carcases from ' 8s 3d to N 3d Per • .--.-- 1 1. 0, cti to INVERNESS..--3!!' oate 68 , 5 2 0 ~, CORE. -; Wh rea2sß e de a ßm t dil , est w aTlo l o, l 2s e si , so6puddelac;lp_ocort7:o:o,°orit: di i t i, r, ley, chevalier, 29s Od. to 30s Od; cliby"' 0 , 4c1;0 0 ' 2N Od. Oats, 28s O d d to 29s 6d• ~ 92e 6d ,g - 8( 1 , t 11 4) „ 1 7. 1P ; MEAL.-Oatmeal, per imp. he,,,, - ,, 1, "- 05 ',, 3 e) , ti 3t se losa c t6Os o fid n o d ocur , dre:di oO pt s eit o 2 : oBo t lsb o e:o o sn s ocsb Od oosd ; o : od ar st l 6 :::: , ... - : 14 5 01 1 1:4: :, h_ l tie to .y :; 04.1 :1_ :": topeooasooseosmdoe;dalo, oatmeal, e6adl,tobeOsst,Od; per _bra , l t 1 . 1 :oa '_ oci , 2 : 1 ,.: 0 , r ol ur e:11 1 )' ' ri j o it; .: ' ,,iti i The market continues fi —..----: nd . 0 0 to , e 1 00 ter sellers. 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