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cgiculated to affect.the feelings of all classes of c.ommunity, - which rendered it the more ne ,..essary to Ir..ve it considered and 'discussed with i:reitest care and teinper. It had been laid,the report of the Corn Committee was de !,.!ctive ; but on those points with respect to which information could be procured, he contended, the report was complete. On one branch of the subject, the prices at which foreigners' could sell then' civ.-n, be allowed it was detective, as the V.,,n - ine'iA bail been so shut .up, that full infor znaton could not on that head be at. the time ptocured. If his Noble and Learned Friend ::_icant'to - say, that the reports of the Corn Com p.', tee did not contain any valuable and in:nortant information on the internal st ate ot the agrie al tural interests, and the taxes, asbearing upon t;.at inte rest, he hadonly to'say, that he differed most ex— tremely from his Noble Friend. There was no incon sistency in now, refraining from.tnoving the revi-, 'val of the Corn Committee, as the prices of fo reign corn were now notorious, He differed from trig Noble. Friend on Another point. His Noble hail said; that they were now priiposing new laws, and a ehange of system; but he (Lau derdale) maimained. that they were not.new but laws Which had been , long acted upon ; and the propos`cd change in the systeth was nothing. ireore than the 'adaptation of the existing laws to the eimngo of circntristances. As to the Execu tiye-Government taking up the subject, he could not conceive why it shcmld• nor take it tip. The Executive had - alfOrded its protection to capital employe° in other branches of industry, and pre vented' an undue competition by foreigners in the ;' and why shadd the capital cm p:oyeil in the moSf important branch of industry, i!t'AjriPultre - , and the growth of corn, be 41e of the same. advantage) Ile therefore eon., • - NT with h i s •i,oble Friend who spoke -first,' in -expre,sing his hopi: that the Executive Govern thent would take it up ; and where such great and itnoorzaut interests were concerned, he did not think it incumbent on them to reject the assist since of the Executive Government, though they rhad . (;:liosed many of the measures of the pi eseul Ninissers. - Lord GRENFILLE explained, and the motions .wt re' agreed to. The Duli:! of NORFOLK stated. that an opinion 'generally prevailesd, that when th e pr i ce of grain fell to i certain extent, the Privy Council had a , - power of giving relief, by imposing- a counter _vailing duty . ; and lie 'visited that the power in .question should be exercised, if the price had f,,lTen so low as to call for it. He moved for a 1. turn of •,the Average Price. of Grain in the Ma yitime Districts during the last three months. The Earl of LivEnpoot, said, that the Privy . Cowicil hail 1,10 such powe r ; t h at t h e matter was reg::!ated by law. some further conversation between Lords 'LAUDERDALE, HARM/WRY, LIVERPOOL, anti the Dig,e. of NoavoLx, as to the proper form of the . snot urn, his Grace agreed to withdraw it, with a .viCW to propose it on another occasion iri a more vo i •er shape. _ • i.-.,rd V:"alsltlghanel Aminitv Bill was read a second time ; and Lord Si Dmorra.pre:voted the Papers relative to the dis barvirwg of tie Niihtia•tooved for by Lord Grenville.' cur rod JURY' TRIAL IN SCOTLAND. Earl STAigHorE.—On the last day .of. the last Session, he had heard a most able and eloquent -speech from the Noble and Learned Lord on the . NVoolsack, on the subject of introducing Trial by :Jury in civil cases into Scotland, and he (Stan , hope), then gave notice of his intentions to bring in a sill this Session to that effect : but then came is most extraordinary proceeding, for immediately before- the hOlidays in the present Session, the Noble and Learned • Lord brought in a Bill of this sort' himself: To be sure it had not the sanction of the Noble and Learned Lord's autho rity.. It had been sent up trom Scotland from those who clearly sheaved that they did not un derstand this - subject. His first 'objection to it was, that it was optional to have a Jury Trial . or not ;.,and a second objection was, 'that the Jury .was confined to the faetS, instead of heing , allowed to give a general verdict as they did in Eng land, unless they wished to relieve themselves • from deeiding.on the law by giving a'Special ver dict ; and yet, though . the Jury was only to de , eide on the facts, there was a provision, that the Judge should direct and instruct them as to the , Jaw. kle agreed that this mode of trial should he introduced*graattally ; and he meant by this, that the Jory should give special verdicts, unless the . parties, the Judge, and Jury were willing that the , verdict should be general. It was an insult to the people of Scotland to say that they Ivere not as competent to decide in'thiS way as in England. , The.people of Scotland were far more enlihtened than the peopl e o f E ng la n d , generally speaking; and why should they not be competent to do that v‘ bleb had been done England time out of mind ? Ile wished now to l:ave his' Bill read a first time, merely for the purpose of having it priuted. The Earl of LAUDERDM.E thought it irregular to , bringln a new bin, when there was already before the House a bill having the same object in view. Eat I STAN HOPE was sorry to find, the Noble. Earl-hostile to the trial 6y jury, which he could have • expected. The 'object -of the two bills wgs completely diflient ; the one was to introduce the trial .by jury in:6 Scotland; and the other Was m ere ly .a proposition to try issues by a • „ , jury. The LORD CIIANc;ELLOR could have wished the Noble, aadlle ttiiikla say the Leonia Lord to po:',pone the intyoduetitin of his Bill. It cLatainly ivouli: be, necessary to intrOduccsome alteratio ns in-. 0 the Bill, which lie (the Lord Cliakellor) bad hod on the table before the recess. Ile would Inalte those alterations himself, as it by no means 1,1,,p_4, 4 1 him in its present shape. Let the Nohle henr it with those amendinents, and then there,ivould trobably he less dilliculty in attain ing one UU)n onject; than by having two I3ills going throngii the House at the same time. Larl, STAN Hopi.; consented to withdraw his Lord GRF,NVILLE gave notice of a motion fot Friday, fur infor'ination respecting the number Of foreign trc,•cips in B"ritisli pay on the Continent.. Eari I ' ITZWIII.IAIII postpon6d till Wednesday Lis motion on the subject of disbanding the Mi litia.—Adjourned. Z~ OE3SE . OP COMMONS. , Mr. runtsT gave notice, _,that lie shonld WORestifiT m" n for 44 " " brtni; a 13:111 . to extend the Salaries of the Chaplains to the County Prisiiits. Petitions' againct the Proper:y.Tax„wer'e presented fron t New Sarurn,Blandford, Linflow,lps\vieli, the Cite of London., the Ward of Cernhill, King•ton, lllrtfwd, Keigate, Guild ford, the Nterehants and Trliders . of the City of Cdo cester, and the Tow,- of Forfar. • Petitions in favour of an :dieration in the Corn Laws were presented front the Landholders in the neighhourhood of Croydon, County of Huntingdon, County of Bt rks,. and County of liedford. - A Copy was presenttd of an Orderin Council, antherlsing the issue of Sp e ci e by the Bank of Englaii,l, up to the amount specified; as also of au Order in Council declaring the Port o f Li ver p oo l t o be: a port for warehonsing goods imported from India. • • • Lord A. I lAMILTON poitponed, till Thursday, his notice - which stood for Tuesday, for a Committee to - consider . the Affairs of the [Sank. 'l•he Repertof the Committee on the Malta Trade was brought up, and the Itesdihnions a.Treeil to. SIR 3ANIES I*Yr.: Mr. GOULBUltNutoved an Address to the Prinee Regent for a .Copy atilt! Corresppnd het)veen Sir James Duff and Lord Bathurst respecting Some peiksohs arrested at Gibraltar. Mr. ZVxt•rineAD sad, that the charge against Sir James buff went n►nch farther than this. He vas charged with having summoned 'the Captains of British trading vessels at Cadiz, and made them ,give an oath that they would not•take:any Spanish snbjects in their vessels.: Mr. Gounw RN thought that.the Hon. G?ntic man would find in the papers all the information wh►ch lie wished for. Mr. 11 7 111TBREAD 9hSCl'Vea, that the "Hon. Gentleman ' had been abzsent, on a bushicss tvhich he congratulated hint on ending so tell (the negoeiation at Gitent), ‘viien he'firSt men tioned this busi;ness in the House. His principal charge against Sir J:iine's Duff was for endeavottr iug to pi event the useopc of Spanish subjects from the riwer of their most inquisitorial. and detest able Gorermucnt. Mr. GObLUURN still thought` that the 119nour able Gentleman would - find all the information, ,that be wkhed for tit- the papers whieb had been moved.,—The motion was then agreed to.' The Annual indern i nity Bill was read a firsttime, and ordered to be refit! ht. second time to-mOrrOw. CIVIL LIST. On the motion of Mr. BANKS, the House went into a Committee on this Bill. :Mr. BANKS. stated, that principal object was, that the Civil List accounts should be made up.to,the sth of January, instead of the sth of April. Mr. ttnittlEY said, that thiS had been - originally brought forward by him as a motion; - which the Hon. Gentleman now thought it necessary to b r i ng forward in the shape of a Bill. The Chan cellor of the Exchetpler, on a 'former occasion, stated, that it would be very inconvenient to have those accounts Made up to the sth of January.— Ile, for his part, c:tild not see where the incon venience would be.. Ile knew that, at least in many of the departments of the Civil List, those papers were now ready to. be presented. it was 'of great consequence that•those accounts should this vear:be'made up _to the.sth of ;January, ia stead' of the sth of April, as we, kneW;that-lhis year there was on arrear, and. Might:he 'allowed to hope that there would' be no arrear in future years. The difference 'of this 'inatmer-of 'makin g up the accounts would be very important as to the consideration of them. It the Civil List accounts were not ,presented till May, and it should becom e necessary to move for any additional papers; it was impossible that they could be 1:111 before the. House until late iu .the , session, when the . pressure. of business, and the anxiety of Members to get out of town, prevented them from having that full consideration to which they were entitled. The CuAzizEr.Loa of the ExcnteictuEt: thought that the Itight Hon. Gentlenianbadhot recollect ed accurately what. had fallen'.from hint' in a for mer conversation. The objection which he had made was merely retrospective. He had no 'ob jection, however, to present-the acconnis or the last year at an earlier period and he believed that they would be laid before the House much sooner than the sth of Aptir.• The Right lion. Gentleman would therefore hare plenty of time to considerthe accounts, or move what additional papers he might think pr'aper. •• Mr. TIERNEY then shid, that if the papers would be presented before the cud of Al...irch, he would be quite content. POK'I'UGUESE EMBASSY.' As the'Chairman of the Committee was put ting the question for agreeing to the former re solution, Mr: WHITBREAD rose to ask a - question Which he conceived to be connected with those Civil List accounts. He wished to know whether, in addition to the expenses of the Embassy at Lis bon, it was now intended to send a Seerethy of Legation, with a salary of 1200/. a year ? :The CHANCELLOR Of the ExCHEQUER could not give any answer to the Hon. Gentleman. Mr. WinTuncAo then asked, was. there any other Member of his Majesty's Governnient pre 'sent, that could give an- answer. To many ques-: tions that were put to them, it was true that they Might plead an ignoramus, but as this wad a mat ter of pretty general notoriety, lie did not see how they could plead ignoramus to this. It had been generally reported that a Lord of the Admiralty had been appointed Secretary of Legation, or Se cretary to the Embassy at Lisbon, with a salary of 1200!. a year. He wished to know whether this eras the fact or not ? • . . There was no 'answer from the ministerial benches. Mr. PONSONBY was at a loss to know what the Committee were to understand by this silence on ,tile part of Ministers. Were they to infer that no such thing had taken place, or. Was in con templation ? . . - The CHANCELLOR Of the Excirmtfcit replied, that the Committee could only infer that the question had been put to him; which he' was not prepared to answer. . The Bill went through the Committee), and tilt report was ordered to be brought up to-morrow. The Committee on'the Ban!: Restriction Bill was=posiponed till Thursday. 'CONGRESS-AT VIENNA; On the ynestion of reading, tho order, for the porpose of postponing the Committee of Supply till Wednesday, "Mr. WIIITETEAD rose, and said, that notwith standing the declaration which had been made by the Chaticellor of the-Exchequer the other day, that . he would, aeswer no qiieStions : Kith respect to ocir foreign relations -or nego:iations, until the return of Lord Castlereagh ; yet it appeared to him of essential importance that the_ Honse and the pahlic-shonid.be put in possession of informa tion of the march of the negoeiation, and, of the conduct of, the British negociator, upon points which were vital to' the honour of this country—vital to the iiitercsts of Europe, From the information which he - had received, lie could charge the Noble Lord with being a party and making this country a party, in some of the disgraceful proceedings of the Congress at Vienna. He did not allude merely to the question of Saxony, but to other parts-of Europe, when the character of this country, and the 'character of our Allies, had.heen deeply in volved, and, rite future repose of the world most seriously endangered. At the time th.:t Dresden and the other towns in Saxony were given up to the Prussian troops, by-Prince Repnin on the part of Riissia, Ministers said that they did not know that Lord Castlereagh was a party to that act, aria that they - did'nor' believe that a British Negociator could he a party to-so disgracelpl a transaction. — He .believed that he could now state with audio- . city, 'fia-,M information that c ou ld no t b e cOntra dieted, that Lord Castlereagh was a party to that , act of Prince Repnin, by which Saxony was de livered up to Prussian tr.oons.' Subsequently, how ever, to this act, Lord Castlereagh had sent. in' a note against; that very act to which he had been a party. Since the surrender of Saxony, Ministers had not contradicted the fact of Lord Castlereagh having been a" . party to this act of Prince Repnin, although at the time they had denied it,. and said it Was imPossible that any British Negociator could be a party to so disgraceful a transaction. He had reason to believe that it was in conse quence' of the public feeling manifested in this conntry, that Ministers sent over instructions to Lord Castlereagh to present to .the Congress a note; protesting against-that act to which he him self had been a party. Such had been' the march of 'the negociation on the part . of our Minister. He should now presume to 'put a question on this subject to those . Gentlemen who had already de clared that they would answer nothing until the return of Lord Castlereagh. He ,should not now presume to. ask questions Of those who themselves presume to administer the' affairs of this great em pire. 'lt; howeveF,Ailis.statements.ivere..uneoTitra -dieted, the, publie.wonld kiiTw what they were to believe. 'Ministers. seemed tii -. fOrgei'frairelliere_ were some important poiiris 'already settled, and announced to the world by public documents.. Among those was the giving up of Genoa to the King of Sardinia. If we recollected any thing Of the principles which Were professed at the time-of the Treaty -of Paris, if we recollected all the declamations which were 'made against the principles of France and her late ruler, we 'could not see without shame and regret, what our Allies were doing at the unholy Congress at Vienna. We -could not see without shathe and regret the • conditet of this' country. When Lord NV01.14111 Rentinch,latl e d in Tuscany, he had the words '' Italian Independence" on his flags.' On the 14th of- March he published a' Proclama tion to the Italian Nation, and principally to the' Italian military, which would shell' in what man-. ner that nation had been treated by us, and how it had beet} hetrayed: li beganin this manner— " Italians,iGreatßritain has landed tier .troops on your shores to secure your independence.. Spain, Portugal, and Holland attest the liberality of her conduct ; Sicily, protected by h er power, h as b een able-to escape the universal deluge. Spain is already • free and independent. Holland is hastening to become so, and will Italy alone remain 'under the yoke ? You are Italians, and the cause of Italy is in your hands. Our forces, joined -to: yOnt'S, -will make Italy what site was iu her best :times, and what Spain is .no,a;rindependent and tree." If such were the hopes-and the :- prospeds which we held out to the Italians, how miserably have they been •disapoointed ? . It was tint merely this general proclamation to :the Italians that had been violated ; but there'teas another prOcialuation to, the people of Genoa, in which they were expressly promised their independence, and their former government. Lord W. Bentinck had proceeded to the appointment of their two colleges mid their two councils, for the express 'purpose of the com plete restoration Of their former Government early in the pusent year. If ever there was a public declaration by which a Government had pledged itself to maintain the independence of an other State, the British Government had b ecome by this instrument the guarantee of Genoese in. dependence. Let them, however, look at the sequel : five days before the arrival of the period at which the people of Genoa looked for the ra tification of their liberties, they receive the black and inhuman mandate which informed them, that their constitution was not to be restored ; that their rights anti happiness were riot to .be• con stilted that their former splendour was not to be' revived, and that the faith and honour of this coon country was not to be-.regarded (Hear, hear). On the 26th of December, 1814, the fatal intelli getee was published to them, that all the pro. Ibises' to which they had hitherto trusted, and all the profeSSios which they had hitherto believed, were alike,hollnw.and delosive;tlat:-.lcthttlfotsieiewl'aht e d h sdp so i loudly procl a im e d th at the m thet sm s i a v n a l t fr.gaoctesdt eps n i n b o( .earte Genoa themselveswas i t t) r (s. a b t el l i ct l i o g ne was in . the first victim of th e i r l aw l ess ritliiiitaei hkes, l pt h n t o tdo c i oi gtnh tf ac i tui paon, t), it t i v g .:( S a hft establishedeVa t, pointed out to their countrymen- by proclamation the ne cessity of submission. ''resolute," they aye, a i n oi n e , n a t ti n d le t a o s a u b re S s tafn from tor comend to the magistracy, th e judicial and."o'etlri?e; m authorities, th e propriety of conforming to the new s to yst i e n n of a i i nta in at Government, order and t a i the people t yte expect y r wiut which o ca s r t r i y it l e v i c t t i n t - zs enjo y ~E'e shad into o l itbi erty r o e r n - i et t,-a happiness.pro- found. sentiment of the hOnour of the General from whom we have experienced military protec tion." This was the substance of a part of • , executive officers of Genoa, on the 2fith of De the proclamation issued -by the procurators and cember, five days before the, period at which the. solemn word of a British General (which wordl the Genoese Government yet forbore to impea ch), involving the word and faith of the Biitish Govern- ment, and guaranteed to that unhappy peopl e t" restoration of their former Government, an d t he security of their ancient independence. The their rights, had adjudged them to be slave s ' Congress of Vienna, instead of re-establi shing General Dalrymple, who then commanded at C-te' ' noa, on the 28th published-another proclamation; ' attesting the.satne melancholy fact, ackoo‘Viedg7 lug the merits of the late Government, and ar e prising the inhabitants that the-administration 4 •,, affairs had devolved upon him, until the wishes 44 the King of Sardinia should be made knows - Here was no misconduct, then, imputed' by 01 party to the former Genoese Government, 0° . pretence of any justification of this kind . offered Every former tyranny, either depotic or reY ° :. lutionary, had deemed it necessary to colnt" . its aggressions by some pretext ,of that descrir Lion. ' No alleged grievances were held up to 0 people, as inviting theta to 'accept the previ o u s boon of fraternity, or, as it would perhaps 1) " 1 called- in this instance of paternity, from their 'r" waders. In this very paper, the excellence of th e deposed Governinent was 'admitted ; and the° ,it was added; '' having received orders front the ' Prince Regent'of Great Britain to transfer Geno a to his Majesty the King of Sardinia." Let the House see these orders ;', let them see in wha t language they were couched ; let them 10 1 °'`; what Minister had dared to advise the 'Cr-own 0 , England to sanction so base an usurpation ! W 11 .5 the country in which the Palladium of liberty w 3 ,5 supposed to have remained inviolate, that 1 0 ' been deScribed as the ark of a deluged universe, t c ' be made a party to the extinction of an independ ent Power, and to the compulsory transfer of free people to a Government equally imbecile att ( corrupt, alike unable to protect, conciliate, ° l ' con:rout its subjects ? (Hear, hear !) He truste.! that public opinion-would ,be in unison with l''' Own, that neither this, nor any other Congre s ' had power so to trample on the liberties of inan ( i kind, and that there yet remained feeling 0 , spirit enough to animate them to unite against It'U ' combination of usurping Powers, and tree aren a selves from a yoke as overwhelming now that it A 145 imposed by Many, as when it was established by 0 0. What a satire was Gen. Dalrymple's compliment t° the late Genbese Government on the conduct of h i ' now ; but how galling must it have been to th e enoesepeople to hear mention made of lotto ° guarantees tobeentered into by the King of Sar dinia7firthe Aaine document which recorded lb e violation of a Solemn, guarantee, involving all tha'" Wasolear and sacred to them, on the' part of th' s , country ! Could the Right linn. Gentleman den. any of these things would they, if they had it ' 4 . their power to contradict them, suffer the impte tation of transactions so odious,- so diSgusting; and so unjust to rest longer upon them ? Let t l ',,, shame lie where it Ought to 'lie, and perhaps ; greater palliation for such atrocities would be font' in a' shameful silence than in a shameless defenc e .' The Genoese received this intelligence in a Oa"; tier that WaS well k nown to i n di ca t e i n th e Itsl i3 ,, character deeper-feelings of grief and indignatt„,. °- than any external symptoms of dis a pp ro b a tion', e they received it in perfect silence. .What, then' " t would ask the House, had : been the conduct of 0 7 very Power in whOse capital this Congress was hel' e In the Convention between Austria and the . I ' ll s n Viceroy of Italy, Eugene Beattliarnois, who it 01 , ow admitted, had not only acquired a great milit'''. 7 s reputation, but the general love and esteem of li ' le subjects; it was stipulated that Marshal Bellegaq should take possession, not in the name of A ust r° ,l but in the 'name of the Allies: Yet Austria b O , in the mean time taken possession of all, and P e , ll . demanded'of this very Kin g of Sardinia to n'i l° . we were hatu d L»g over the Genoese, to be P e j; rnitted to place a_garrison in Tur in. (Hear, he'ty of The war that was carried on for the res t or ation 0 old Governments was no sooner ended, than vt. .saw Austria extinguishing the. Venetian States, the little republic of Lucca, and acidity; the o' 3 ' c., ,hiSp pese to her permanent territory. Was it for t.,, r he wi , shed. to know, ' th'at we were furnishing ° ," O contingent Of 75,000 men ? (Hear, hear !) if ' 1 at' looked into the the' of the Anstr` be Government in the' coun.-..ies thus uSurpen , s , saw nothing but oppression, imposts, exactW a i contributions : these were some of the fruit! ,t that tree of salvation which had been set up ag 34l ? i Te the tree of liberty.. He'ipoke from good authort..%;ii, when he described Austria to be more detested ". ° 4 ,in Italy than iii a ny form er -p er i o d o f h er doo. ol ', there, She had become m o re jealous from a e ° ,,t sciousness of wrong, more fearful, vigilant , 1 ° 23 suspecting : she now marked every man O r ~ traitor who wished-Italy to be free, or who Pi l o mented-that England had broken her faith. 0 1 was informed that hundreds had been seized, „,,', were about to he brought for• trial before a 11. , bunal created, by a Power that held no rightful Jr, risdiction over them, and, as a Member of r ). liarnent, he implored his .Majesty's Ministers i ;, i ti l l ie ti la i t r tei hi n l a, li s t k l l f at . cliteb " y l ee i n, e ,ll al(ll:tic.talili‘iesa,(nin, into c ri y(t,4beecroisunienriayeit:oybrittioot f i t ' ,3l. - ijff.ll ' public li n ts : l-yi•cetot opinion iyo r lei stilliia i i i e u e e t ix l l . (p) pr ee l ts l is b ; a a l: Nl, l , : o u -God nbi eo w n e e, fical!olcitttriltidst.icl/lii expressed on this subject : for the contluct scb l o , he reprobated was not only the moSt inbiltitl there wa! yet, he thought, but the weakest .anrl the most disgraceful; 13 ,,1 1 English feeling, (=W.' in the British Cabinet to disavow it. Wit b , - ,, T : et spect to the state of Belgium, no answer ba` . ' o s been given. to the question he had - formerly P°: t i, ' to the conditi on o f t h e f ortresses , an d the e'ill--: 'mated expense of repairing them.. He sat '%, wish to'hnow, if an answer cou ld p oss ibly be "e trected, v,hether this country, was to pay tha t ci ty pease,and the further expense o f carrying ' ~,e n ' effect the project of entrenched camps het \v ;r. the different fortresses. The Low Countrie s a i r . peared to be still doomed by' the b e n e fi c ent O r i t oi tions of Cot‘gress to remain, without reg'a'r d en a the wishes or, rights of tire-inhabitants, the l ' i .."' in which Monarchs may di, )ate for doniin lo c.' The Prussi an s, h e understood, were alreadY' ll o ld ing on the left bank of the Rhine; and lets' cO OC.. doubt, that in a very short_term of years, the se