The Sun. — London, England, 1820-05-18 00:00:00

FOR THE SUN. PLAIN TRUTH. EmToß—k'Ve st cre4t deal of she " DPPRR , SFD State of the rountry''—even from eer people i certain Nvho, as it ap pets oilglit to know better. To 'hest, ant) to ni! grumblers, l pot tbe qopstioo—" Is the Country really and bona fide in a DRPRESSED State Now, Sir, nsl atu Only in search after Truth, to men t thil question fairly--1 acknow -Ird,:e tiia,t, t lyng tllir year 1815 as he at...lldar ,l 01. compari.on, Agricultural prices ate a little lower ; that doe de nand for agricultural pro. ci - ore is sometiiing less . ; than some Of o ur Maim. fac'uter- are unemployt:tl; that the demand for Maiiii'Fieriires is something less ; that our C nrn-rce is diminished—that is to say that our loTorts taw! Exl.orts, at least in transit and for watehonseing, may he a little leas, and that a pm Clot) of our shipping are lying itt dock unem- plovvd. Jo short, Mr. Editor, I acknowledge that there is a portion of Capital unemployed, and that there is a portion of labour unemployed—but I deity lijit tither of these amounts to any thing like the extent represented by the spirit of party or the spirit of grumbling. Still teeklieg 1815 (I believe that is the year, but 1 tueln the greatest year during the war) as the criierion, 1 must beg that the Depressing Party will look at the amount of Agricultural pro duce and labour for that year, of Manufacturing capital and labour, of Commercial speculation ten ShiPpmg business, and in tact of all the et ceteras of British exertion, including the employ of Seamun and Soldiers in his Majesty's service, for that is but fair 1 Let this amount be divided into two parts ; the first part being that which may be supposed to have existed quite in dertident of our warlike situation at the time, 1:)‘; ellhracilig the alumna of our present Peace ; the second including every thing detwndent upon our own military and naval war fare, deducting the amount of our present Peace Eitahlishment, and also upon the disturbed state of the whole world in consequence of an almost ge neral warfare, and that, I think, iv fair ! The first of these divisions, for the take of perspicuity, 1 call the Peace demand of 1815, the second I - call the War demand. Now let our Depres‘ors tike , the amount of Agriculture, Manufactures, Commerce, and Peace establish ment in the present or past year, and note its amount, as the Peace demand of 1819. Then let then) compsre .the Peace demanci of 1819 with that or 1815. and candidly acknow'ledge which is greatest ! If the Balance is in favour of 1819, a fact which, I believe, cannot be controverted, then thecountry is not in a depressed state, and we have no real cause for despondence ! Nay Sir, even it there were a deficiency, 1 would still deny ,the fact of depression ; because though the cessation of war employ, in regard to our Home labour of all kinds, has most certainly diminished the [lonic expenditure to a certain de gree, with respect to the industrious part of the co . mmunity who depend solely upon manual la bour--.still is that diminution dependent solely ou the cessation of that from which it sprung , . That the country was in an " artificial state," I grant ; but that was only partial, and arose solely from the artificial state of war. Up to the year 1815, the country bad never, in its natural siate, enjoyed such a Peace demand as it did in that year These are simple fact's and considerations, Mr; Editor, which; I trust, are palpable anti plain meanest capacity. I do not deny partial distress ; but I wish to.shew that (a state of war fare out of the question) we are not in a state of depression; we ought ' therefore to avoid any thing like a state ot.despondency. Mi.trepresentostion bag led to despondency; de spondency has led to discontent ; discontent 'has led to outrage; Outrage has driven away capital, B pd encouraged emigration ; withdrawing of ca pital, and the emigration of the rich, have pro duced want of employment ; want of employment has fostered. Radicalism ; and Radicalism has brought some to the gallows, and would, if not thin!v checked, bring even the misrepresenters to the 0 6111611 e—tor that I suppose would be the fn , hinnehle machine, the save•all, and end-all of modern illumination I , But it may he, said, " that a portion of dis trrss being alloured'to exist, it is the duty of the E;ovc,ltment to remove it;" Why, Mr. Editor, null 5 0 ir 11, if Government can, and so they are .cird.-avouring to do, as far as a Government ought to (;0 in - free spirited, enterpricing nation like ; hot it is not to be done with a stroke or , narietynn's wooden sword, and l'hope that Q. 1 ,,,,0100 do not wish that Ministers should un ebeith Beliones iron one. am aware that a late active Member of Oppo.• tition hinted in the llonse, t;l)nrtly after the fast Peace of P a ris, " that some of the iieditordshire farmers began to think it would be a good thing to set Boney up again,"—and it is not impossible that some folks may still be of the same opinion ; hot Sir, I look forwai l d with confidence to some thing much better than that, provided Opposiiion will be careful not to cause despondency to pro duce more mischief in a week than it can possi bly he in the power of Ministera to repair itt six months ! It may be asked indeed, where do F look for sources of improvement ? Sir, I consider the iin provetnents in Agriculture, Mannlactmel, Com merce, and Finance, as mutually dependent upon each other. Agriculture will sell more. produce and get bet ter prices, as money circulates more freely. It will raise its produce che a per, as Farms diminish in size ; increasing the number of independent agricultural families, and heiuging lahour into the field in capital, instead of money ; which latter will find better employment in Commerce and Manufactures. Manufactures will improve from the increased Home consumption, arising from improved Agri culture and Commerce ; and from the gradual improvement which may be hoped for on t tie Con tinent, and in both the Americas. The United States and the Continent may talk of rivalling us, if they will, in Manufactures. I hope they will try• By substituting worse Manufactures fur Homespun, for that it all they can do for many years, they will raise up new and richer clw,ses in their state of Society, and will therehy increase the demand for British fine, goods• We want richer customers Commerce will improve from the •same causes as Manufactures; but, if we consider how many ships we had in 1815, employed in the Peace de wand, and how many additional were built, or taken, for the Transport Serv►ce, we must not be surprised if some of the latter, now .necessarily out of employ, should rot- before our Peace De mand can he brought to equal tie aggregate Peace and War Demand of the most active year of British Industry, We.are no longer Carriers for the whole world. We no longer manufacture cloths for clothing Prussian, German, anti French Soldiers. Ye no longer borrow One Hundred Millions annually. We no longer expend r hat Burn in the Howe mgr.: ,ket in paying Troops anti Seamen who must eat, drink, and be fed ; in wear anti tear of ships and canvass ; of gnus, - musquets, and swords ; in burning powder and firing away shot ; i n hiring transports ; in feeding thousands anti tens of thousands with gOod beef, pork, bread, ruin , a nd who . must now, poor fellows, work•hard and live harder—btu still we have no cause for de spondeney. •We are not Pepressed ! The surplus population produced by the active circulation of 25 years wsr-- , for that is the real fact, cannot possibly be. instantly occupied in peace employ as soon as war employ ceases: But that is no cause fur despondency : because we know that great part of what was war demand .has already becOme peace deinand ; or, in other words, many of those thrown out of employ on the stoppage of war contracts, in the Iron Trade especially, have long been in a state of peace employ. As to Finance, little need he said, since the re sumption, or rather the non-resumption of Cash Payments; for nobody will take cash, now that the precious metals are below the Mint price: Some folks said some time ago that tivtok-notes were at a discount, but give to one man, now, a Bank note and a shilling, and give to another gold equal in weight and fineness to a Guinea, and then, Sir, who will buy ; most meat or bread with their sum Or; as a more certain test, buy gold and pay for it in flank-notes, and then 'let the Bullion Gentry tell us whether Batik-notes are at a pre mium, or Gold at a discount. But, Sir, if, after this, there •are people, who will still insist upon our being in a Depressed State, I mast ask, " depressed below what ?" Then, if they still insist upon it, I will at length acknoWledge that we are, and that if it entirely owing to Ministers, whose energy and perseverance, led and encou raged by his Majesty's good sense and Patriotic fortitude, supported by the gallantr . y of our Fleets and Armies, and the public spirit ()late Nation, have succeeded/ in putting down the great man who was the cause of all our prosperity ; leaving him to stir up the earth, not in Imperial Purple, and with the thunder of his artillery, et the Thuilleries, Berlin, Milan, and Moscow, but in a white jacket and straw hat, with a spade and rake, in a garden at St. Helena, lions whence he still issues his decrees, but more to our amusement and less to our annoyance:. remai{~, I(iNOTUS. PRIVATE AND AUTHENTIC CORRE3PONFIENCE PARIS, MAY 15.—Upwards of twenty persons have been arrested in GRAYIER'S affair, and it is believed that the ramifications are of the most extensive nature ; it is not that the means were at all adequate to the effect intended to be produced that is to be considered, it is the system of these miscreants that is to be looked at. Thistlewood was some time since in Paris, and it is believed formed a connection with the Traitors here to produce a simultaneous effect in the two Countries He has paid the forfeit of his life for his Treason ; then let him rest, but let us not forget what was his object, fOr all the heads of the Hydra are not cut oil. Great commendation is to be paid to the Police here for its zeal and intelligence.— The Liberals complain of its Spies the same as the Opposition in England. The employment 0 1 Spies is certainly a shocking thing ! It is quite immoral to set a thief to catch a thief ! or a Spy to catch a Traitor ! ! Why not let the virtuous Pattiot bathe his hands in blood, and then punish him ; to punish a crime en passe is contra:y to all laws, divine and human, for though a man says he will commit murder or treason, he may not be serious, or he may change his mind before the overt act Why L.en have prevented THISTLE.. WOOD and Co from burning Lord HARROWBY'S house, and perhaps half the square, and murdeting some IS or 20 persons ; if they had done it, was not the law then to punish them Such is the wasoptog of the Democrats in the two Countries. ] , p my next I shall give you the history of what is called the ,Natiooal Subscription in favour of those who may - be punished for a breach of the Laws. It this be not aiding and abet -critnr, by promising it succour or ins pueiir, we. must have a new Vocabulary...— The projected changes in the Ministry are post polled iil M. DECAZus's arrival.—We are told that the QU BEN of ENGLAND has been in Paris some days, but it is like the story of the Lady with the Pig's face, every body heard of her, but no one nad sect, her. 't F. AIIiIGAL u 1 S R. Pr7formea Last Night. D" ItY- N Lear' Lear, THEATRE ROYAL, itt, .E. .mg , : Kcal, ; Edgar, Mr. Rae; Gon.•ril. Mrs. Glover; Regan, 111 us. Berton;E C.adelia, Mrs. W. West. After which, The Lady and the Devil. TneArRE ROYAL, COVENT-GARDEN.—(First Time), - • VirKi uius:Virginini, Mr. Macready; Icilills, Mi. C. Reliable ; • VirOtn<i, Aii . ss Foote; Servia, Mrs. Faucit After which, Honest Thieves. IV For LI rERAtit , R Ey! E v, see the Fiist and for PAR,LIAmi:NiAItr PaocEEDINGS, see the Fourth Page. PRICE ►,F STOCKS tRIM nAY i T ()se Bank Stock .. 226 i 226 226 i I Blink Long Ann... 16 1-16th i :s per CCikt itVd. ti94 69 1 India Stuck - 221 220 i.er Ceot. 4 " 4 tiqlii India Bends .... 21s. 225. pr. ,Si per Cent. - -77 ii New annuities 4 per Cents • B7 A Exch. Bins, 2d 23. 43. pr. a per Ct. Navy .-1nn..... 10fiii ._ Cons. for Accuuut ...,. 69in M .1 I LS. Aitutven-,-1 Dublin, 1 Waicrtord, ► Ouernsey and Jersey. Dug-1 Wa6!rforn, ► Gottenburgli, 1 France, 1 Hamburgll. HIGH Wrk Ell Nl' Ltf, , •ii• A 1:11.1 ro.moßitoW. mornihk, 57 minutes after 13.1 Evening, 2t minutes alter 7. THE SUN. SOLEM QUIs DieLai; em.sum AU ;,EAT LONDON, THURSDAY, MAY 18, 1820. We received this morning the Paris ,Papers bf Sunday and Monday last. The Chamber of Peers met on Saturday, and received the projet respect ing the Customs, which was presented by the Minister of Finance, and was referred to a Spe cial Committee of five. The Chamber 'of De puties did not meet. The following are ex- Inlets : PARIS, MAY Is.—Yesterday, the King re ceived the Princes, the Ministers, and several Marshals; amongst others, the Duke D'Albrifera, the Duke de Tareute, the Count Jourdanf several Peers, Deputies, eic. Saturday, 'the Count de Schowaloff bad a private audience of the King, to deliver a letter of condolence from the Emperor of Russia - on the death -of the Duke de l3erri Hie Majestytransacted business successively . •witb the Cardinal de Perigord, the Count Simeon,' M. Roy, and the Duke de Richelieu. " It is said, that the nine Deputies who signed the Prospe - ctus of the Subscription called NatiOnal, have addressed a requisition to the Minister of Justice, to be included in the prosecution against the other Members.of the Committee of that Sub• scription. is said that the Queen of England has been for some days in this capital incognito.-- -(Journal de Paris.) " The Duke d'Angouleme is expected at Lille towards the middle of June. His Royal Highness will inspect some of the principal fortresses of French Flanders. rtv PER CENTS. Saturday 7B f. 55 c. DEPeRRED STOCK.. Of the lid March, MADIAID, Di AY 2.--'itvo trigates are to sail from Cadiz the Bth instant, which are to touch At. Teneriff, Porto Rico, the Havannab, and V' Cruz. They take out duplicates of the Decree for the Convocation of the Cortes. " MAY 4.—The battalions of Lea!tad and the Guides, arc entirely disbanded. Generals Vaal" pans and Valdes are in prison, and the proceed' ings against them are going on will) rapidity. " STUTTGARD, MAY B.—A contagious disorder of a very dangerous charactei• has appeared is 11 small town of Gingen, on the bank of the Danub e ; the individuals attacked die in 24 hours." 'el :ri 11 THE Questi.---Yesterday morning, at an t srll hour, arrived Colonel VASSAL!, the brother °f General VINO, said to be charged with dispasclie ° from the QUEEN to her legal advisers. Such wll s the dispatch used in his journey that he only lef t Geneva on Friday niett, a distance of near7 o° miles. Her !MAJESTY was at Geneva when " came away, where she intended to remain tW days, for the sake of rest ; she then propoggi proceeding to the frontiers of France, but bad e° intention of visiting Brussels, as formerly repo:tea• The Messenger's instructions were to return ire mediately with an answer, and meet her on the road. Her MAJESTY was rather indisposed at 110 time ; but it arose merely from ihe fatigue she be ll undergone in travelling. The French Jouroole have announced her entry into France above tel l (lays since ; the arrival of the above Messenger exposes the inaccuracy of their statements. We agree with The Times of this day, that " it is impossible to suppose that Ministers can ha" any noerest separate from and adverse to that a f the Country."—Holding this opinion, which is as evident as the noon day, how can The Ti"e . reconcile it with its continual abuse of 1" 1 " maters, and the almost incessant imputation of the worst motives to their political conduct ?"" As to the cause of its censure on theta this day, viz. the appointment of Lord CuATHAs; to th• Government of Gibraltar, the people will basil/ object to the appointment of th , ! son of the great Earl of CHATHAM. and the• brother of the lola William PITT, to both of whom the Empire is 5 4 , much indebted, and particularly to the last thus' trious Statesman, whose political principles not only enabled the present Ministers to secure the Empire, but to increase its gloty in having effected the deliverance of Europe. The appoint' meta in question, is, therefore, some return oJt the Country to those who rendered signal 04 iniportant benefits to it, as well•as to tote wools civilized world, and who are no more, by a testi' mony of respect to . their memory, in bestow' ing a vacant situation Oa their nearest surviving.: Relative. We refer our Readers to an article respectia( the IRISH ROMAN CATHOLICS which we have if° serted this day. It i 3 clOefly,gratifying in relatio• to Mr. GRATTAN'S Letter, as it shews that is . too sound. a politician so admire the Doc . trines of Annual Parliaments and Universal sdf• frage, and has the manly firmness to avail / hit disapprobation of such wild, impracticab il theories, which are wholly inconsistent with al settled form of Government, and which in ever/ country where they could for a moment be ad d 'flitted, would reduce that country to la 4 despotism, and hopeless anarchy. There is ° l. ' t passage, however, in Mr. GRATTAN'S Letter (11346 is wholly nugatory. He says, the Roman Cat l)°. lice " deserve a privilege to worship their ( 461 according to the best of their judgment, and ( 14 . have a right to do so with im, unity, and vvithol l; the interference of the State." Have they nor t b° full possession of that privilege already ? To sd extent• indeed that perhaps might demand sour : notice on the part of the State as to the, tnau fit o in which they exercise that privilege, for it is ° I known that they are incessantly at work to 'll , 0/ Protestants into the pale of their Choral), a till • consequently it is more necessary to inquire I" the use of the Toleration which they.,enjop t h r to invest them with a share in Legislative e • which would induce them to ri•e from the n ier , attempt to make converts, to endeavour to . ef fecr the total destruction of all our Establisluneli` s to Church and State. EAST INDIA SHIPPING. * t o' The Company's ship Ali - bora'', from Bengal,.. pa ssed t' ) the Downs'early yesterday morning. f a t. 1 ' The Prince Regent, —, outward-bound, was 10 33. N. long. 20. 06. W. on the 7th April, all well. et" The Larkins sailed from Prince of Wales Island on t he November for China. eking is The Marquess of Wellington was off Sangor,ptnce— the Coast, on the 25th December. The following is an extract of a letter fron l , 11 ,70 Janeiro, of the ith of March :—" The news fl the Buenos Ayres, by the Blossom, confirlott former reports, and she brings a copy of a ji rpry' entered into between the Governors of the winces of Buenos Ayres, Santa F 6, avid 19 , gl o Rios, by which tt confederation is esiablislie"b"ineg -The Earl of HARLIOWBY entertained the C - his Ministers yesterday, with a grand dinner , 4 ' l House 'in Grosvrnor-scillare. • i Ol e of Fitt 4 014 Irith tuft, tt 4t i; tkitl E. I'{4, Rick ~+a~ ~, .~~ ki i %el % ke; * 4, 1> ) tht tPI ttlf t ?h, 141, ai r h 46 1 u k ,j , .Ji