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SPIRIT of the PUBLIC JOURNALS. FROM TILE EVENING PAPERS OF IF:STE/WAY. GLOBE.—The people's right to petition the House of Commons against the imposition of any given tax proposed by the Minister for the service of the year, will acquire security by the effort of Sir R. Peel to induce the House to enforce an antiquated and uncon stitutional rule against the reception of such peti dens.. :From the temper of the House and the whole ' tenor Of the discussion on Thursday night, on Mr. T. nunCombe's motion for rescinding the monstrous rule, , • it was obvious that the majority of 31 against the mo • tion could not preserve it from an early abrogation. • -- The division of Monday night, when Mr. Duncombe's • perseverance again brought the question before the House in another form, sealed its doom. The unit in favour of the rule, which in a crowded house stood forth to preserve the Premier from absolute defeat, could not, it was obvious, maintain him in his position. Last night, on another motion by Mr. W. Cowper, to the same effect as that brought forward by Mr. Duncombe, the anti-constitutionalists gave way, and the Premier as leader of the sticklers for arbitrary forms opposed to the • indubitable rights of the people, very readily, but with al t ungraciousness of tone and manner which showed the mortification the virtual defeat of the preceding night had inflicted, accepted the friendly succour of Lord Francis. Egerton, who suggested that Mr. W. Cowper should withdraw the petition, tie presen- tation of which . would renew the scene of the preceding night, .isa order to allow- time for the formation of a plan which should' recognize the . tight of the people to petition the House against arty measure under its consideration ; and at the same t i me the practice of the House with reference to such i i e tatiena, and discussion on th e ir presentat i on, b e brought under clearly defined and uniform regu lations. Such a plan, without stating the specific terms of the resolution in which he proposed to eiabody it, his Lordship would, if his suggestion -were entertained, undertake to submit for the con saleration of the House on an early day; and on this an - idea-standing the debate was adjourned to Friday naxt. Sir R. Peel's motive for fighting so dangerous a battle in defence of the rule which shuts out the peti tions of the people from the House of Commons, was allowed to peep out last night, with sufficient distinct- Less to allow an opportunity for recognizing its shape, and denouncing the secret conviction of the people's hatred to his pet scheme of an income tax, from • • which it takes its rise :-- "If Hon. Gentlemen and others intended to invoke pub lie to oppose themselves to the income tax, lie (Sir R. Peel) hoped those meetings would be really plialic ones. He hoped they would not be what were vulgarly called hole-and-corner meetings ; and he hoped that all those who feared an addition to the assessed taxes—all those whose income were under 1501 a-year —all those who expected to be benefited by his Tarifit-- would take care to attend those rneetingi, and express their opinions on the subject of the income tax." The delusion sought to be practised on those " eshose incomes are under MO/. per year" created ba- their exemption from its direct operation, is ra pidly passing away. The mechanics and artisans are • beginning to understand, that if the customers of their employers are unable to purchase to the same , amount the articles in which they deal, their quantity of employment will be reduced, and the demand for labour diminished—that if the shopkeeper be assessed to the amount of the profits he makes by his trade, that the articles he sells must be increased in price, or the per tentage on the capital he employs in his busi ness will be reduced below the rate at which he will be able to prosecute his trade with a remunerative profit. Every day's delay to the progress of the mea sure in Parliament is productive of vast advantage to the opposition raised to the impost out of doors. STANDARD.—The absurd question about pre • senting petitions against. an impending tax was last night again raised—undisguisedly, on the part of the the movers of the question, to obstruct the public business. Sir Robert Peel, reserving his own opi nion, very properly left the matter in the hands of the allied parties who had run him to a majority of one, and Lord Francis Egerton, one of the allies, proMised to strike out a via . media by proposing a resolution that petitions should be admitted, but not considered. This, we suppose, is intended as a tribute of respect to public opinion ; but, to our rude faculties, it seems • extremely like what we sometimes see in the practice of obstinate and contemptuous persons, who, having given a license to the complaints or advice of . , remonstrants or counsellors in such terms as these— " talk on," " say your say," coolly prosecute their business or amusement, which ever the case may be, as though no one were present. Sir Robert reel, however, had no choice in the matter, the • public service peremptorily requires despatch, and • 'as long , as the question remains open to debate, e•ay halt dozen Members who are shameless enough • . &el unprincipled enough to obstruct the public ser vice for the gratification of their own'Vanity; and in order to promote the ends of faction, may obstruct it I, ,, lefinitely. To acquiesce in an impropriety, volun is one thing, but to hazard the highest interests 1:: > pertinaciously resisting petty improprieties, is an 0-her and a very different thing, and it is what no se man will ever do. Motive for ,the exclusion of plitions against the income tax Sir R. Peel can have none. TO whatever number these petitions may be rased, by factious industry, they will be worth no thing if they do not • represent a clear majority of the nation, of which the Premier need have little fear. The case of taxes is peculiar; every one who Is not against a tax must in reason be taken as ap proving of it; for there is always the universal objec . tii,n against paying money, and there can be conceived bat one argument in its favour, that is, that the pay ment is necessary and just. .Silence where one is charged with a debt is c always construed into acqui escence, and a payment made is the best evidence that a debt was considered to be due. By a parity of reasoning, all who are silent on the subject of a tax must be taken as acquiescing in its propriety. ADJOURNED INQUEST AT ROE- HAMPTON. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) • After the re-examination of Daniel Good, jun., it was intimated to the Coroner that since the inquest had been 't.' . ;jourried, the woman Butcher had made some further statements in addition to her former evidence. She was ge:cordingly brought into the room, and on her being questioned she said, that on their way to New Cross in the chaise, Good told her that he had got a mangle in London, and that she was to have it ; and she was to have met him in London on the following Saturday, to go to see it. She also said that Good gave her a plush velvet bag, which she afterwards handed over to the constable. The keys alluded to in the former inquiry were then prolueed, and the witness said she had no doubt that they were the same she saw in the possession of the man Good. The witness was asked by one of the Jury whether the arrangement was not that she should go and fetch the mangle, and not merely to go and see it?—ln answer to farther questions she said that she expected to have been harried to Good in about a fortnight, as she knew the banns had been put up. John Maude, the Boehampton letter-carrier, proved that on the evening of last Monday week he met Good, accompanied by a young woman. The latter appeared very dull and dejected, and Good said to him, " Don't sly anything about it." The woman WftB dressed in dark clothes, and had on a dark-aoloared bonnet. Did not know what he meant by saying "Don't say anything about it." Sarah Greenwood, cook to Mr. Shields, was then sworn. She said that the last time she saw Good was when he was in the stable with the policeman, on the Wednesday nigh, just before the body was discovered. On the Sunday before that Wednesday, about seven 'o'clock in the evening, Good told. her that he was going to town to meet a friend, and he went away its a great hurry. She saw him again a little before ten at night to have his supper, but as he appeared to have been drinking, and. as he was always quarrelsome when in that condition, she left him and went to bed. On the Monday morning, Good went to breakfast as usual, but she did not observe any difference in his personal ap pearance, or see anything remarkable about him. He was very tipsy again on- Monday night, and when she went to b e d, he was in the hall with the other servants, and his son was with him at this time. On the Tuesday morning she o b se rved that his person was very .dirty and black, and she told him he was not fit to sit down with the other scrvants and he went away, and said that he would shave and wash himself. He appeared quite calm and col lected. The witness concluded by expressing her opinion that the body found in the stable was that of the woman. • Good used to call his sister. The CORONER asked her why she thought so, and she replied, that the body appeared to be the same size exactly as that of the woman she referred to. In answer to questions by the Jury the witness said, that Good would never glow any one to go into his stable and she sa id s h e was sure that he was in the habit of going out of the house at all hours of the night. On the Tuesday morning before the discovery was made, she he a rd the little boy crying, and he told her his father had been gone out fur two flours, and that ho had t a k en away o after this that Good came borne in the his of state she s. It was de scribed. He was as bl ac k as a sweep.she said no one but Good had an y access toth estable,andshe t c h li a d t h et think any one else coul dll i f i t n v e c i p i l l a v e a e s d ha t d he ? body there. C O RONER—Where was his Witness—l don't think he had any. I never saw him with but one check shirt, and that he wash used to I hint he self dsin at the stable. li e never wore stockings, and re stock wan e s vet's dirty old man. This closed the evidence on behalf of the Cown. The CORONER then directed Mr. Allen the medical gentleman, to be sent for, and h 0 was requested to examine the marks upon the axe Produced by Mr. Busain, and he expressed a des:ided opinion that som e of the marks upon the edge , wee made by bl oo d. He also said that it was very likely such an instrument as an t;..e had been used to dismember the body from the appearance of the remains. The CORONER then, at the request of the Jury, read over a portion of the evidence, and, after a brief delibe ration, they returned a verdict of " 'Wilful Murder against Daniel Good," and the Coroner immediately issued his warrant for his apprehension. STATE OF TRADE. (From the Manchester Guardian.) MANCIIESTER.—There was no improvement in our market yesterday. Purchases of yarn are still made to a fair amount,—probably, at present, to the full extent of the production, but on terms dictated rather by the necessities of the spinners, than settled by any refer ence to the cost. For goods there is very little de mand,. and many manufacturers of power-loom printing cloths are said to be seriously contemplating an entire stoppage of their looms. It is still hoped by many parties that the reduction of the rate of interest by the Bank of England, and the settlement of the financial questions now pending in Parliament, 'will have a fa vourable effect upon business r but hitherto, certainly, there are no apparent symptoms of the realisation of these hopes. ROCHDALE FLANNEL MARKET, MONDAY, APRIL 11.-- There has been another dull market to-day, and busi ness seems growing worse instead of better. Work be gins_ to be more scarce, and wages on the decline. The Woollnarket has been flat, and little business done at any prices. ELECTION COMMITTEES. IPSWICH. (Continued from our Afternoon Edition of yesterday.) The poll-book having been put in evidence by the returning officer, , Mr. John Hay, having been called by Counsel for the pe titioners, stated that he N , as a merchant in Ipswich. He had formerly been Mayer of the borough. He had given the sum of 1001. to the gentleman who had acted as Treasurer to the sitting Members ; he was that amount out of pocket, having contributed it towards defraying the expenses of the election. The witness further admitted that a sum of 6001. had been de livered over by him to the same gentleman for the purpose of the election. He could not say pobitively whether he had re. ceived the money from Mr. Wason or from Mr. Rennie ; but he thought it had been given to him by Mr. Wason. Thomas Waller was next called, and deposed to his having seen some of the gentlemen who were charged by the peti tioners with bribery in the room where the partisays of the sitting Members used to assemble. _ . The examination of the witnesses was not concluded at the rising of the Committee, at a few minutes before four .'clock. SUDBURY. Further evidence was called in support of the case of the pe titioners. Mr. HILDYAILD summed up the evidence at great length, after which the Committee adjourned till 11 o clock to-day, when Mr.:Austen will reply on behalf of the sitting Members. C iNGFORD. The Committee met yesterday at twelve o'clock, and gave their decision that they should open the register. The investi gation will thus partake of the nature of a scrutiny'. After the decision, the Committee proceeded to take the case of Jamea Dogherty, which was not decided at four o'clock. EAST INDIA HOUSE. A General Meeting of the Proprietors of East India Stock was held yesterday at the house inLeadenhall-street, at 12 o'clock, for the purpose of electing six Directors, in the room of the following gentlemen, who go out by rotation:—William S. Clarke, Esq.; Henry Alex ander, Esq.; Sir Wm. Young, Bart. ; John Shepherd, Esq.; F. Warden, Esq.; Colonel Sir J. Bryant, C. 8.; at six o'clock the following gentlemen were declared to be duly elected :—William Astell, Esq., William Butter worth Bayley, Esq., Russell Ellice, Esq., Colonel Archi bald Galloway, C. 8., Sir Richard Jenkins, G.C.8., John 'Westerman, Esc., M.P. A Court of Directors was afterwards held, when the Most Noble the Marquis of Tweeddale, IC.T., was ap pointed Governor of the Presidency of Fort St. George. The thanks of the Court were voted unanimously to Mr. George Lyall, M.P., Chairman, and Major-General Sir .Tames Law Lushington, G.C.8., Deputy Chairman, for their great application and attention to the affairs of the East India Company during the past year. BANK OF ENGLAND. A General Court of the GOyernor and Proprietors of the Bank of England was held yesterday, at 12 o'clock, for the purpose of electing 24 Directors for the ensuing year. The following Gentlemen were proposed, and as there were no other candidates at 4 o'clock, they were declared to be duly elected. : Robert Barclay, Esq.; Edward Henry Chapman, Esq.; Bonamy Dobree, Esq. Charles Pascoe Grenfell, Esq ; Kirkman Daniel Hodgson, Esq. ; John Gellibrand Hubbard, Esq. ; Charles Frederick Until, Esq. ; Alfred Latham, Esq. ; William Little, Esq. ; James Malcolmson, Esq.; Humphrey St. John Mildmay, Esq.; James Morris, Esq. ; George Warde Norman, Esq. ; John Horsley Palmer, Esq. ; James Pattis'in, Esq. ; Christopher Pearse, Esq. ; Charles Pole, Esq. ; David Powell, Esq. ; Sir John Rae Reid, Bart. ; William R. Robinson, Esq. ; Thomas Charles Smith, Esq. ; William Thompson, Esq. and Alderman ; Thomas Matthias Weguelia, Esq.; Francis Wilson, Esq. SPORTING INTELLIGENCE. NEWMARKET—TuEsnAT NIGHT. BETTING IN THE EVENING. DERBY-8 to 1 agst Attila; 10 to 1 agst Frederica c ; 12 to 1 agst Auckland (t) ; 22 to I agst Joanna c (t); 25 to 1 agst Eleus ; 25 to 1 agst The Lord of Holderness ; 9.5 to 1 agst Lord G. Bentinck's lot (t); 30 to 1 aget Chatham ; 30 to 1 agst Ballinkeele ; 40 to 1 agst Moss Trooper ; 40 to 1 agst Canadian (t) ; 50 to 1 agat Barrier (t) ; 1,000 to 15 agst Timoleon (t); 1,000 to 15 eget Lasso; 1,000 to 15 agst Devil-amongst-the-Tailors (t); 1,000 to 15 agtt the Agree able c ; 1,000 to 15 agst Tripoli ; 1,000 to 12 agst Pelopo mesus (t); 1,000 to 15 aget Archy (t) ; 1,000 to 10 agst Tedworth (t); 1,000 toe agst Equation. OAPs.-8 to 1 agst Adela filly (taken . ) ;11to 1 agst sister to York Lad; 12 to 1 agst. Eliza ; 15 to 1 agat Syren ; 20 to 1 aget Equation (taken). The Match tor to-marrow between John o'Gaunt and Fitz roy will not be run, the former having ;said forfeit. COLUMN STAKES.—AII are scratched but Ballet, Lord Orford's Clearwell f., Monteagle, Eusebia, Acacia c., Flytrap, Chatham, Archy, and the Young Petuaria and Souvenir fillies. T. Y. C. NATE—( To-morrow).—Garry Owen, Bring() f. out of Obe'isk's dam, f. out of Ben!fit'a dun, Patchwork, and c. out of Zany's dam. In our report, forwarded from the heath, we gave the Derby and Oaks betting, previous to the races ; in the first there was nothing new beyond a considerable improvement in Auckland, but the latter presented a complete revolution, and Syren and a mare that has been for some weeks on the shelf, having changed places. The races had little effect on the odds for either stake, but it was obvious that the Frederica colt was not so much in demand as on Monday, and that Auckland, Elenus, the Lord of Holderness, and Lord G. Bentinck's lot were in force. The closing prices will shdw the extent of these arrangements : WEDNESDAY.—Sweeps of 100 sovs. each, h ft, celt, Bet 71b, and fillies, Bst 31b. T. Y. C. (5 subs. ) Mr. Thornhill's Espartero, by Emillus, walked over. Subscription plate of 501. for 3 yrs old, 7st, 4 yrs List 71b, 5 yrs 9st, 6 yrs and aged 9st 21b. T. Y. C. Mr. Byne's Garry Owen, 5 yrs Mr. Thornhill's Eringo, 4 yrs 6 The following also started :—Mr. Rush's ch f, by Plenipo tentiary, out of Obelisk's Dam, 3 yrs ; Lord Exeter's Patch work, 3 yrs ; Mr. Barnes' br e, by Emilius, out of Benefit's dam, 3 yrs ; and Mr. B. Greene's ch c, by Wiseacre, out of Zany's dam, 3 yrs. Betting-6 to 5 agst Garry Owen, sto 2 agst Eringo, 4to 1 agst the Wiseacre colt, 6 to 1 agst Patchwork. A dead heat between Garry Owen and Eringo, The Column Stakes of 50 sous. each, h ft, for 3 yrs-old colts, Bst 71h, and fillies Bst 41b. R. M. 30 subs. --- Lord G. Plentinck's Flytrap, slowed 51bs (Rogers) ... 1 Mr. 13atson's cby Plenipotentiary, allowed 3 lbs ... 0 Duke of Portland's f by Bay Middleton, allowed 3 lbs The following also started:—Lord Orford's f by Clearwell, out of Chapeau d'Espagne's dam, allowed 31bs ; Mr. Thornhdl's Eusebia ; Col. Peel's Archy, and Lord Chesterfield's h f Muley Moloch, out of Young Petnaria, allowed 3 lbs. 7t04 on Fly trap. Won by ahead; a dead for second between the Acacia colt and Souvenir filly; Archy was a good fourth, and the others beaten off. The 100 sovs. Sweepstakes was not run when our accountieft. Mr. Gregory's Fitzroy, 5 yrs, Bat, received 50 Fovs. forfeit from Duke of 13edferd's John o'Gaunt, 4 yrs, Bst. 12. 'I.M.SI. 100. Duke of Bedford's John o'Gaunt received forfeit from Lord Orford's Bridal, bet. D. M. 200, h fti , BETTING PREVIOUS TO HE RACES. DERBY. 8 to 1 agst Attila 25 to I agst Eleus—taken 10 to I agst Frederica c—taken 50 to 1 agst Policy—taken 14 to 1 agst Auckland—taken 1000 to 15 apt Tripoli—do 17 to I agst Lord G. Bentinck's 1000 to 15 apt Master Thomas lot—taken —taken 24 to 1 agst Lord of nolderness 1000 to 15 agst Wm. le Gross—t LATEST BETTING AT MANCHESTER. MANCHESTER, TUESDAY EVENING. Notwithstanding the Newmarket meeting, there was a pretty good muster this forenoon ; but nothing of importance was said upon the events of the week. THE 2,000 GUINEAS STASES.—The only offers we heard were-7 to 4on the field, and 4to 1 against Meteor—taken. Timoleon was not named. THE CHESTED. CUP.—Several horses were not to our ear named ; and, if so, nothing was done upon them to an extent worthy of,remark. Lanercost appeared to be decidedly the premier. 7 to 1 agst Mr. Kirby's Lanercost—take 8 to 1 freely Si to 1 agst Mr. Holmes' Vulcan—offered 10 to 1 agst Mr. Plummer's Alice Hawthorn—off. t 11 tol 13 to 1 agst Lord Chesterfield's Marshal Soult—off. freely 14 to I agst Mr. Greville's Rory O'Alore—taken 18 to 1 agst Lord Westminster's Satirist—taken freely 20 to 1 agst Mr. St. George's Jolly Tar—offered 20 to 1 agst Lord Miltown's Cruiskeen—offered 2.5 to 1 agst Colonel Anson's Rhodanthe—taken 25 to 1 agst Colonel Cradock's Pagan—offered 300 to 12 agst Major Hay's Retriever—offered The field against five (offered) ; 2 to 1 agst any three (offered); Lanercost all " the go." It may be as well to state, that Rhodanthe was backed for about WI. at 2.5 to 1 ; but 300 to 10, and afterwards 150 tos, were laid by the same influential party. Lanercost became so much in vog ue, that, before the room broke up, it was even betting that he beats " Scott's lot." THE DERBY. ---We must refer our readers to the latest its; telligence from the " grand scene "—Newmarket. No one bid 7 to 1 agst Attila, ner 25 to 1 agst Frederica colt, in force, nor 25 to 1 apt Johanna colt; 1,000 to 20 did cause the pencil to go down an favour of Acacia ; 17 to 1 in ponies and tens, was pretty freely laid agst Auckland. TH E OAKS.—A few vapid offers, requiring no remark, be yond 9 to 1 agst Passion ; 12 to 1 eget Lord Jersey's filly. lIBARTLESS ROBBLIRY OF THB POOR.—A trial occurred at the conclusion of the Central Criminal Court Ses sion just terminated, the result of which gave very great satis faction. The case was briefly as follows :—A poor widow, named Stenson, who received from Mr. Lott, the Common Councilman, some City kitchen tickets for coals and potatoes, prosecuted a man, named John Ryan, for robbing her of the tickets, and also of her money which she handed to hist as rayment for his promised services in carrying to her apartment the food and fuel from the benevolent institution. rho pri soner had laughed at the prosecutrix upon being expostulated with, and upon inquiry it wasfound that he had treated another poor woman in a similar manner, and Mr. Lott caused him to be apprehended. When the prisoner was brought before the Lord Mayor and Alderman Wilson, who are also members of this charitable institution, he was committed for trial, and the widow was re-imbursed the money she was robbed of. The prisoner was convicted and sentenced to imprisonment for six months, the Judge and Jury having animadverted in strong p la oo ng r n ag women have, it a p peare d, b een plundered Ryon the heartless eharacter of the offence. Several by fellows who lurk about the City Kitchen for jobs and the Lord Mayor has intimated that-he will orer d prosecutions in all cases of the kind'established b e f ore him. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF COMMONS, April la. The SPEAICER took the Chair at the usual hour. An HoN. MEMBER stated that he had received a, note from the lion. Member for Dorsetshire, (Mr. G. Bankes,) stating that he had unfortunately been con fined to his bed by severe indisposition, and that the medical gentleman who had attended ilm was ready to give evidence to that effect, at the Bar of the House. Mr. Jackson was then called to the bar of the House, and stated that he had lattended Mr. Bankes professionally, and had found him labouring under a bilious attack, accompanied with fever. In his opinion he was unable to attend to his duties at the House yesterday, and would be so for four or five days to come. • Lord G. SOMERSET then moved that Mr. G. Bankes be discharged from the custody of the Sergeant-at-Arms without payment of the usual fees. Sir G. GREY thought the Hon. Member should have communicated the fact to the House. Great care he thought should be taken to prevent inconvenience from such causes. Mr. BERNARD thought that Members who were too unwell to attend ought to pay the fees. Mr. W. PATTEN was quite willing that Mr. Bankes should be excused after the statement which had been made ; but very serious notice should be taken of any absence on slight pretence. Lord G. SOMERSET said he believed he could state that it had been the intention of Mr. Bankes to attend yesterday, and he was only prevented by se rious indisposition. Mr. LABOUCHERE could see no reason why Mr. Bankes shou1:1 not be discharged under the cir cumstances; but he thought it was highly desirable to prevent lion. Members from availing themselves of frivolous excuses. The motion was then agreed to. SECOND READINGS. The Sudbury Improvement Bill was read a second time. The Great North of England (Clarence and Hartlepool) Junction Railway Bill (No. 1) was read second time. WAKEY HILL INCLOSURE. Mr. BAILEY brought up the Report of the Com mittee on the Wakeyhill Inclosure Bill. ROCHISTER ELECTION. The SPEAKER informed the House that the pro ceedings on the petition against the return, for the borough of Rochester had been abandoned. WAKEFIELD ELECTION. The SPEAKER informed the Members chosen to try the merits of the Wakefield petition, that the House dispensed with their attendance for the pre sent, but it was probable they would be wanted to morrow. NATIONAL EDUCATION (IRELAND.) Colonel ACTON presented a petition from Wick low, against the system of National Education in Ireland. Mr. SHARMAN CRAWFORD presented a pe tition agreed to at a conference of Delegates of the Middle and Working Classes of Great Britain, held at Birmingham on the sth and 6th of April and the following days, signed by the Chairman, on their behalf; Mr Joseph Sturge. He stated the following abstract :—The petitioners state that, in their opinion, every member of society has an equal right to a voice in the making of the laws which he is called on to obey, and that it is the true principle of the Constitution that no man should be taxed except by his own consent or that of his representatives—that, therefore, every man not deprived of his right of citizenship by a verdict of a jury, is entitled to the elective franchise. That in order to secure the free exercise of the suffrage, the system of vote by ballot• should be adopted. That election districts should be rendered as nearly as pos sible equal in proportion to the number of electors. That all men chosen by • majority of votes should be eligible as a Member of Parliament, without respect to qualification by property. That all legal election expenses, and a reasonable remuneration to Members of Parliament, should be paid at the public expense. That in order to secure and maintain the responsibility of Members to their constituents, the petitioners recommend annual Parliaments. Petitioners pray your Honourable House to take these premises into immediate consideration, and adopt such measures as shall secure a full, fair, and free representation of the people in Parliament, according to the principles stated in the petition. Mr. CRAWFORD would move the consideration of this petition on Thursday, 21st of April. The SPEAKER said that the petition should be referred to the General Committee on Public Petitions. THE TARIFF. An Hox. MEMBER presented a petiticn from Ox ford against the alteration of the duty on leather. An Hull. MEMBER preSented a petition from Lin colnshire against the reduction of duty on live stock and provisions. .Sir J. HANMER presented a petition from Hull, against certain portions of the tariff. Mr. T. DUN COMBS presented a petition from a certain individual at Birmingham, praying the House to pass the financial measures of the Government without delay, inasmuch as he thought there was sufficient spirit in the country to drive the authors of such mea sures from the Government in the event of their being carried. REPEAL OF THE UNION. Mr. O'CON.NELL presented petitions from Pres ton and Bolton, praying for a repeal of the legislative Union with Ireland. COPYRIGHT OF DESIGNS BILL. On the motion of Mr. EMERSON TENNENT. the Order of the Day for the House resolving itself into Committee on the Copyright of Designs Bill was read, and ordered tobe postponed to this day week, CARDIGAN ELECTION COMMITTEE. The SPEAKER inquired whether Mr. M. Blake who had been nominated on this Committee, and had, in consequence of non-attendance, been ordered to be taken into custody, was in custody ? The Sergeant-at-Arms replied that the Hon. Mem ber had not been taken into custody yet. The SPEAKER then called the Members of the Committee to the table, and informed them that they were discharged from further attendance, on account of the non-attendance of Mr. Blake ; also, that a new Committee would be appointed on Thursday or Fri day next. —The Hon. Members then resumed their seats. On the motion of Mr. O'CONNELL, Mr. Grogan and Mr. Irving were added to the Select Committee on Poet-office Communication. On the motion of Mr. E. TENNENT, the name of Colonel Connolly was added to the Select Com mittee on the Fisheries (Ireland) Bill. THE' TARIFF. Mr. MILES gave notice that in Committee on the tariff he should move that the duty to be levied on live stock imported from foreign countries for the purposes of food should be taken by weight. Sir HOWARD DOUGLAS said, seeing the Vice-President of the Board of Trade in his place, he begged leave to ask the Right Hon. Gentleman whether there was any objection to furnish the in formation required in a notice of motion which he (Sir 11. Douglas) gave on the 12th of last month, for the production of a return of all foreign wood entered for home consumption, for the year ending the sth of January, 1842, classifying every article according to its value. He wished to ask the Right Hon. Gentle man, whether the calculation by which the average of 41s. was struck, included all descriptions of wood, such as fire-wood, which would of course materially affect the average produced ? Mr. GLADSTONE said there could be no objec tion whatever on the part of the Government to the production of a return of this description, unless he called its impracticability an objection. It was not in the power of the revenue department to take cognizance of the species of wood imported. With respect to the publication to which his Hon. Friend had alluded, he thought it was stated by the Right Hon. Gentleman at the head of the Govern ment that the duty on all kinds of timber would be between 41s. and 425. With respect to the latter part of his Hon. Friend's question, he had only to say, that undoubtedly inferior descriptions of wood were in cluded in the averages—(hear)—the effect of which was to lower the averages by about 3s.—(Hear.) It had been at first intended to tax timber and deals in two separate clauses, and to tax lath and fire-wood at 20s. the load ; but in the amended tariff it would be seen that these smaller woods had been differently classed. RIGHT OF PETITION. The Hon. W. COWPER, seeing his Noble Friend the Member for North Lancashire (Lord F. Egerton) in his place, begged to ask him whether it was his in tention to persevere in bringing forward the motion which he spoke of last evening i Lord F. EGERTON said that he would put the motion on the books of the House to-morrow evening. CASE OF RICHARD GIBBONS. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE in rising to bring forward the motion of which he had given notice for the discharge of Richard Gibbons, stated that he wished, in the first place, to present a petition signed by several most respectable individuals in favour of the motion. The petition which he held in his hand, was the humble petition of certain inha bitants of Great Marlow. The petitioners stated that they had known Gibbons for several years, and they believed him to be totally incapable of wilfully committing perjury, for the purpose of misleading the House. The petitioners prayed that the House might visit with leniency the error into which' Gib bond had been betrayed. That petition was signed tition Clayton. h a by several respectable gentlemen of both political parties, and among them by Sir George Nugent and Sir T W he m pe . • having been ordered to be laid upon the table, The HON. MEMBER proceeded to say that he had no personal accquaintance with Gibbons, and he would not have brought forward the present motion, if he did not feel perfectly satis fled, from the representations made to• him, that the error of Gibbons had been unintentional. He had reason to believe that that individual was totally incapable of wilfully committing the offence with which he had been charged, and were it other wise he would be ready to admit that a man of Gib bons's respectability should be punished ten times more severely than an . individual in an hum ble station. In the petition which Gibbons himself had addressed to the House, he stated that he was called upon on Tuesday the sth April, to give his evidence before the Committee, relative to the vote of a person of the name of Charles Gibbons. Having given his evidence in reference to that vote, he was subjected to a severe cross-examination by Counsel for the petitioners, in the course of which he was examined as to the canvass of other voters, which was not material to the issue before the Committee. He was examined with reference to his canvassing for two voters named Pusey and Povey, upon points whkth did not in the slightest degree affect the vote of Charles Gibbons. On the Thursday fol lowing—this happened on the Tuesday—he gave evidence in the case of Povey ; and it was not likely that he would have done so, if he was conscious of having committed perjury before. He stated that he was unused to examinations in courts of justice, and had confounded the cases of Povey and Pusey. He had no intention, he said, of giving false evidence, though he admitted that his statement was contradictory ; and 'he . begged the House to take his case into their consideration. He (Mr. Dnncombe) felt convinced that_ any gentle man who read the examination and cross-examination to which the witness was subjected, would be sur prised that he should have come so clear out of the examination : there was quite enough to confuse any man. If it could be proved that an individual had been guilty of wilful perjury that was calculated to mis lead the Committee, he thought the punishment that the House would inflict on him, by sending him to Newgate, was not sufficient. The Attorney-General ought to proceed against him for perjury, and he should take the consequences of his conduct. He would now read almost the concluding question that was put to him on the last day when his attention was called to the conflicting evidence that he had given on the day preceding.. He (Mr. Duncombe) thought that the Counsel himself was quite as much confused as the witness. Mr. Duncombe was proceeding to read fte evidence, when The SPEAKER was understood to say that the Hall. Member would be out of order if he read evi dence that was. not included in the body of the petition. Mr. DUNCOMBE could only say then, that the witness was examined and badgered for an hour and a half, - and Gentlemen who were not accustomed to be examined in that way should allow for him. What had occurred on the occasion was this—he was . asked if ;hat was a true answer, and if he ad mitted that it conflicted with the reply he had given on the previous any. He _replied that it was a true answer, and if he had answered differently the day before he must have been misunderstood or misrepre sented. The room :was then cleared, and the Com mittee immediately, and without giving any notice to the witness, came to the decision that the witness had been guilty of wilfully giving false evidence, and com mitted him *to the custody of the Sergeant-at- Aram. He thought the Committee ought to have given the witness an opportunity of explaining, as, by the Act of Parliament, the Committee were directed to report the misbehaviour of witnesses to the Speaker. It seemed to him that the Committee had • gone out of its way, by saying that he had been wilfully guilty of giving false evidence. That might have been their opinion, but they went out o: their way in giving it. The witness, without being given time to explain, was laid hold of by the Sergeant-at-Arms, brought before the House,. and sent to Newgate, while he had no opportunity al explaining his conduct to the House. He (Mr. D.) offered his explanation to the House, which would deal with it .as it thought proper. He knew nothing of, the indi vidual himself, but many Hon. Gentlemen who were acquainted with him, considered him incapable of the offence with which he was charged. He confessed that he had prevaricated, but he stated he had no inten tion of defeating the ends of justice. The Hon. Gentle man concluded by moving That Richard;Gibbons be called to the bar, reprimanded by Mr. Speaker, and discharged." • Dr. BOWRING seconded the motion. The motion having been put, • Sir J. Y. BULLER said that he was sorry he could not concur in the motion of the Hon. Member for Finsbury. He was sorry he could not do so, because the Committee were unanimous in thinking that this gentleman, respectable though he might be, had given his evidence not only incorrectly, but that it was given wilfully. He wished to call the attention of the House to the fact that Mr. Gibbons was ,brought before. the Committee when he was cahnly composed, and not when he came up in a hurry from Marlow. But if Ito were inclined to speak the truth, he . need not be afraid whenever he was brought before the Committee. Truth was but one, and what was truth on Tuesday was truth on Thursday. With regard to the point of mistaking the name of Povey for I:'usey, and which was material to the vote under consideration, he was sure that if the question had been asked him, he would confess that he had made no mistake re specting the names. He could not but regret that a person in Mr. Gibbons's station should be found guilty of giving false e yidence, but if that were so it was an a ggravation of the offence. With regard to the word " wilful," it . might be considered too strong a word to use, but the entire Committee were unani mous in the opinion that Mr. Gibbons did to a certain extent know that he was not 4 , eaking the exact truth. There were only two ways of dealing with Mr. Gib bons • the one Was, the plan which the Committee had adopted; and the other was, to order him to be prosecuted for perjury in a Court of Law. -He was not prepared to recommend the latter course to the House, because he did not know sufficient of the law to be able to decide whether there would be evidence sufficient to convict him in a Court of Justice. But he was sure that Mr. Gib bons had not suffered sufficient 'punishment for his offence by remaining only one week in Newgate. It was abuolutely necessary for the House to make an example, because when th e y looked at the loose manner in which too many persons were in the habit of giving their evidence before Committees of the House, they would see that it would be wrong if the House were to pass over a case of such a flagrant description. He (Sir J. Buller) was sorry to be obliged to oppose the motion of the Hon. Gentleman. Mr. COATER had been a Member of that Committee, and felt bound to oppose the motion of the Honourable Member for Finsbury(Hear.) Mr. Gibbons had given his evidence with great deli beration, and there had been no appearance whatever of confusion in his demeanour. In his (Mr. Cowper's) . opinion, Gibbons had committed perjury, had wilfully given false evidence to deceive the Committee. It was painful to him (Mr. Cowper) to have to make this statement regarding a man of Mr. Gib bons's apparent respectability, and be commisserated Gibbons's present situation ; but that was no reason why the house should deal too leniently with hint—(Cheers) —and considering the spirit of parti sanship by which too many witnesses were actuated; a spirit which not unfrequently induced them to give false evidence before Committees of that House, he thought it was the duty of that House, when a case of this sort came before them, not lightly to pass over so grave a crime. As a Member of the Cirri - mittee, he Plr. Cowper) had no doubt but that Gibbons had stated that which was false, knowing it to be false, and the respectability of the man was only an additional reason for not passing over his offence without the infliction of sufficient punishment. He thought that one week's imprisonment -in Newgate was not punish ment sufficient for the crime of perjury.—(Hear.) The House ought not to decide on this case until after the evidence had been printed, and had been placed in the hands of Hon. Members. Mr. HEATIICOTE said he had been a Member of the Committee before which Mr. Gibbons had given his evidence, and he felt bound to say that it was impassible for any person who had heard that man give his evidence, to doubt that it was given in a most indirect manner.' To upwards of twenty re plies - which he had given to questions on one da b ` l3ll the subsequent day, when he had forgotten what he had previously said he gave the most direct contradiction. What aggravated the offence was, that this man, who, in a petition had thrown himself upon the mercy of the House, and expressed his contrition, yet endea voured• to j us tify hi s conduct by stating that it could not have any effect upon the issue of the case before the Committee. in his (Mr. H.'s) opinion, they ought not to discharge him from custody. Mr. LABOUCHERE wished to state the grounds on which he would give his vote on the present occasion. He placed the greatest confidence in the decision of a Select Committee of that House. He felt bound so to do. It was scarcely possible for those who were not present to know what was the real con duct of this witness, from what was stated in the House . He felt himself unable to come to a correct conclusion upon the matter, upon the simple ground that the Committee having reported that the conduct of this man had been ex tremely improper, the Members of that Committee ex pressed the same opinion in the course of that debate • He thought it most desirable that all Committees : should be armed with a kind of summary power with rega r d t o suc h c ases as the present one, and it' • was most essential that any decisions they might come to should be supported by the House. On these grounds he felt bound to vote against the motion. Mr. CHILDERS, as a member of the Committee, would support the decision, • and vote against the motion.. . _ _ _ Sir PEEL said that he should vote in concurrence with tb e opinion of those gentlemen who had sat on the•Ccrnraittee. The gentleman who spoke last said, it was a case of the most impudent and determined perjury. They who had seen the man in giving his evidence, were the best judges of his conduct. With respect to the intelligence and station in life of the man Gibbons, he (Sir R. Peel) agreed with the Hon. Baronet who spoke on that (the Ministerial) side of the House, that his respectability and educa tion greatly aggravated his offence.—(Hear.) Mr. O'CONNELL perfectly concurred in what had been said by the Right Hon. Baronet, but, as the man was not ,always to remain in prison, it would be necessary for the House to come to some decision upon his case. He (Mr. O'Connell) would move that the evidence be reported. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE had. never said that the man's respectability was a palliation of his offence. He understood that the evidence taken before the Committee had been submitted to the • Hon. and Learned Gentleman, the Solicitor-General with a view to ascertain whether in his opinion there were suffi cient grounds for proceeding against Mr. Gibbons on a charge of perjury. He should like to hear what was the opinion to which the Honourable and Learned Gentleman had come inpon this übject. If the Committee were right in their view of the matter, it appeared to him (Mr. Duncombe) that considering the station of the . individual charged, the proper course would be for the house to proceed against him upon an indictment for perjury, and not to keep him, from day to day, in Newgate, to his great injury, whether he were innocent or guilty.—(Hear.) He had only to repeat that he had no per sonal interest in the. matter, but he had reason to think, from the representations that had been made to him, that Gibbons was incapable of the offence with which he was charged.. He would move that the evidence be printed, in order that the House might be enabled to come to a decision on the subject. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that a note of the evidence taken before the Committee had been sent to him, but that he had not as yet had an opportunity of reading it over, and he could not give any opinion with regard to it. He would remind the Honourable Gentle man, that though the House might have reason to think that the witness had prevaricated, there might still not be sufficient ground for proceeding against him by indictment for perjury. Sir J. Y. BULLER then moved that the evidence taken before the Committee should be printed and laid upon the table. Lord MAHON suggested, that that portion only of the evidence should be printed, which related to the evidence given by Gibbons. Sir R. PEEL said, that the evidence given by other witnesses might throw light upon that of Gib bons ; and it might, therefore, be desirable that the whole should be printed. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL observed that he had been given to understand that the only evidence of any importance in the case was that of Gibbons himself. Mr. COWPER said that the only part of the evi dence that bore on the charge of perjury was that given by the witness on two different days. The SPEAKER then put the question that the minutes of evidence taken before the Great Marlow Election Committee be laid before the House.— Agreed to. THE LORD MAYOR OF DUBLIN. - Mr. SMITH O'BRIEN - said as the Lord 11\layor of London had been created a Baronet, he wished to ask the Right Honourable 'Gentleman opposite whether he intended to advise her Majesty to confer a similar distinction upon the Lord Mayor of Dublin. —(Cries of " Hear," from all parts of the House.) Sir R. PEEL said he hoped that neither the Hon. Gentleman nor the House would consider it disre spectful if he refrained from making any statement as to the advice which he intended to give to the Crown with respect to conferring civil distinctions.— (Hear, hear, and cheers from the Ministerial benches.) ADJOURNED DEBATE-DIVISION. Mr. ELPHINSTONE inquired of the Right. Hon. Baronet when he wished to bring the debate to a close. Sir ROBERT PEEL said he had no wish at all upon the sub . ;ect.—(Laughter.) There certainly was a general concurrence of opinion last night that the debate should close to-night.---(Hear, hear.) He thought a legacy duty that would impose a, per manent duty in the transfer of real property formed quite a separate proposition. As the Hon. Gentle man had expressed his disposition to enter into his wishes with respect to expediting the debate, he hoped he would not delay the House by introducing unnecessary machinery. Mr. ET, PHINSTONE wished to know if he should be in strict order, if, when the Report was brought up, he should move that it be recommitted ? He could assure the Right Hon. Baronet that he had no wish to produce delay. ; it was solely that he might bring forward his proposition. Sir It. PEEL asked.why the Hon. Member could not bring it forward at a subsequent stage, and in a separate form ?—(Hear, hear.) It .was. for imposing a permanent duty, while this Bill was temporary. A conversation ensued between the Hon. Gentle man and the Right Hon. Baronet, in which Sir R. PEEL stated that he could not, as an advi ser of the Crown, give the consent of the Crown with respect to any measure that should not be permanent. Mr. WILLIAMS said, on bringing up the Report, he should move that it be recommitted, in order to bring forward his two propositions, which would go to the extent of superseding the income tax altogether. Lord J. RUSSELL said, that when last night he gave his concurrence to the proposition of the Right Hon. Gentleman, he had said that he could not answer for those Gentlemen who had motions on the paper. BONDED CORN. Mr. HUTT said he had no wish to press his Bill on this subject, in consequence of the wish expressed by the Right Hon. Baronet. Sir R. PEEL said he hoped . the Hon. Gentleman would abandon his right, because if he did not do so, it would place him (Sir R. Peel) in an invidious posi tion. As other Hon. Gentlemen waived their right, he was sure he would consent not to throw any obstruction in the way. He had consented to the first reading of the Bill, and had done every thing in hig power to facilitate it. He hoped the Hon. Gentleman would do what others had done, and would not stipulate for any particular exemption. _ _ 111 i . llUrr said ilia if there was any advantage in opposing his request, he would not press it. FOREIGN FISH. Captain PECHELL said, previous to the recess he had pointed out to the Right Hon. Baronet that unless some steps were taken with respect to the con veyance of foreign fish, the proposition of the Right Hon. Baronet would be rendered nugatory, as foreign vessels were allowed to enter our ports. He was glad that he had attended to his suggestion, and that the fish of foreign countries were not to be imported except in fishing vessels. He now wished to know, whether the Right Honourable Baronet was prepared to give pro tection to English fish, and whether there were any treaties of reciprocity with other powers 'on the subject. Sir 'ROBERT PEEL said, he would give protection to English fish, and there were treaties of reciprocity, but he could not consent to postpone the alterations he intended till the treaties were concluded. Mr. E. RICE thought the proposed alteration in the tar:fl would lead to collisions between the Eng lish and foreign fishing-boats. ICETURNS. Captain BOLDER() brought up certain returns, which .•ere laid on the table. FEES TO SCOTCH JUDICIAL OFFICERS. Mr. FOX . MAULE said, that certain returns had been moved for on the 9th day of March, of the names of those judicial offi cers in Scotland, who had taken fees in the execution of their official functions. He believed that those returns might have been made be fore this time, as, in most instances, he thought the returns would be nil. He wished to know when it was likely they would be laid on the table ? Sir JAMES GRAHAM said many of the 'returns had been already made, and he apprehended the re mainder would be made shortly. INCOME TAX—ADJOURNED DEBATE. The Order of the Day for resuming the adjourned debate having been read, Mr. ALDAAI said that in moving the adjourn ment of th e debate last night, he was not actuated by any desire to delay the measure of the Right Hon. Bart. His motive for making the motion was, that there were several Hon. Memb ers , connec t e d with large constituencies, who had not spoken on the question, and were entitled to be heard by the House upon a sub ject of such importance as this was. Besides, the debate not having been resumed on last evening till eight o'clock, only three Hon. Members of each side had had an opportunity of speaking, and he consi dered, therefore, that they were entitled to have another night's debate. Hon. Gentlemen on the other side taunted Hon. Members on that (the Oppo sition) side with representing hole-and-corner meet ings as assemblages of the public, convened to express their disapprobation of the income tax. For his own part, he had not engaged in any agitation against the income tax during the Easter recess, but he had been requested to attend a meeting of his constituents, which was crowded with artisans and members of the middle classes in that borough (Leeds) and the feeling of the meeting was one of uni versal condemnation of the income tax.—(Hear.) The people of every country, but more especially of England, had naturally a great aversion to any interference with their private affairs. This was a very natural feeling. The result of a man ' s embarrassments being known would almost effect his ruin. That House would always be subject to the eha - fge of ciaas legissiaunias,-, real property was placed on the same footing as personal property. He thought that if any machinery could be contrived for discovering the exact amount of every man's income, the tax would not be so objectionable. With respect to the timber duties, he thought that the Right Hon. Ba, ronet had acted with great disinterestedness, as he got no thanks from any class of the community. The re duction would have the effect of making houses and . shipping cheap, which of course was not agreeable. to those who had houses and ships, and whose property would be depreciated. But still it Was desirable to have cheap shipping to compete with other countries, and to have cheap houses for the comfort of the people.—(Hear, hear.) The latter were of more importance than many might suppose. In those countries where (as in Scot land and Ireland) timber was scarce and - dear, not only were the dwellings of the people bad and comfortless, but their whole condition was miserable ; but in Norway and Switzerland, where timber was cheap, the houses were good, and the people wealthy. He ob,;ected to the income tax pr o posed by th e G overnme nt, because he believed it would place men in such a position that they would be tempted to commit perjury. By the income tax the .word and the interest of a man would be brought into direct contradiction. He did not believe that after the machinery of the income tax came to beunderstood, that when surcharges had been made—when the kind of i n q u iry b ec a me known which the Income Tax Commissioners would have to institute— when these • things became known • and felt, he did not think that the income tax- would be tolerated. The first assessment might be made, but he doubted whether a second assessment would be practicable. Mr. ESCOTT thought the Government measure one admirably calculated to meet the exigencies of the coun try, and just the sort of measure which, under existing circumstances, the Government ought to present to the consideration of Parliament. Before going into the question, he wished to clear away certain impediments which had been thrown in the way by lion. 'Gentlemen opposite. They bad taunted Gentlemen on his (Mr. Escott's) side of the House, with their silence. Was it extraordinary that the independent majority of the House—(A laugh)----should take time to consider the great questions which had been proposed . to them, before coming to a decision ? The Noble Lord, too, had taunted them with coming to the House, not for the pur p,:se of voting for what they believed to be the right, but for the purpose of . voting for what they thought necessary to keep a Ministry in power. That charge appeared to him most extraordinary, when he recollected that it came from the Noble Lord who had taken as prominent a part in reforming fa; liament, - and who was so complacent and contented so long as the majority of that Parliament suited his pur pcise and kept him in power.—(Hear, hear.) So far as was consistent with the respect which he felt for the Noble Lord's character, he was bound to give that charge an unequivocal denial. There was a silence which had been observed on the other side of the House as well as on that—a total silence as to the causes which had made it necessary to resort to these measures. The question was not 'between the old financial system of this country and the new one. The financial systems of Lord Liver pool, of Mr. Canning, of Lord Ripon, of Lord Grey, of the Duke of Wellington, had been annihilated and destroyed by the late Administration and the late House of Commons. On both sides of the House it was admitted that the old financial system could not supply the necessities of the State. The question, then, was between the system proposed by the light Hon. Baronet and the system of last year, rejected by Parliament and the country.—(Hear, hear.) The country had, no doubt, well weighed the advantages which they were likely to derive from those measures., With respect to sugar, they had incurred great risk to their colonial possessions, and gave a stimultis to slavery-, which they had paid twenty millions to abolish. With respect to timber, he knew, from consultation with persons inte rested, that at first they were in. favour of that part of the Noble Lord's budget becoming a law, in the hope of gettinx, cheaper timber, but, on an examination of the question, they were persuaded that the only way in which they could obtain cheap timber was by giving en couragement to the importation of Canadian Umber. With respect to corn, it appeared strange to him that the Noble Lord, who, in the last Parliament, was strongly in favour of a fixed duty, should, in the present one, have declared that his fixed duty of Bs. was to end in a va nishing point 'of is.' He explained that, ..by stating that he reserved to the Queen the power of re scinding the duty by an Order in Council. What ! the Noble Lord, the great leader of the Whigs, make the Queen the imposer of the bread tax ? Was that the Noble Lord's idea of the Consti tution ? He knew that among many agriculturists there was, an opinion that a fixed duty of some kind, though not an Bs. duty, would be a better protection to agricul ture than the fluctuating duty. The Noble Lord said that when the price rises he would take off the duty, and he therefore hoped' that the farmers, when lie ap plied to them for support, would remember that a fixed duty was to be taken off as soon as the price rose conve niently high.—(Hear, hear.) He wotild now 'say a few words on the measure proposed by the'llight Hon. Ba ronet. His measure consisted of two partsone impos ing a tnx,•and the other remitting taxes. Now, what was the state of the country ?,,'?,There was a deficient revenue for which they must impose taxes, and the commercial depression- of trade demanded that they should remit those taxes which pressed upon its elasti city. Both these parts must be taken together, and one was not to be considered separately from the'other.—(Hear, hear.) The tax which the Right HOD. Baronet proposed was to be imposed according to the annual income of each individual to pay, and, in that respect, there was a distinction between tine present proposal And any othei , 'income tax which preceded it.—(Hear, hear.) All per sons who had not an annual income of 1501. were to be exempt from the tax, and he did not hesitate to state that, by fixing the tax at that amount, no poor man in the kingdom would be liable to it.—(Hear, hear.) Then looking to the other part of the Measure, he thought that the remission of taxes would compensate those whose incomes subjected theta to the tax.—(Hear, hear.) The income tax would fall eventually and justly on the two greatelasses of the community—the owners of land and the hoarders of money. Those were classes which he believed every man in the country would _wish to see made contriliute to the exigencie; of the State on great emergencies. He did not think that those classes would contribute more than they ought, and whatever they did pay they ought, to consider it as an insurance paid on their great possessions. (Hear, hear.) He would take the measure as a whole, and he would not be captious in looking into the different articles of the tariff—whether it may not press heavily on one class or another, or that one individual might be injured by the adoption of such a measure, unless he saw there was in that tariff any provision .which might be likely to cause great distress to large classes of , the people. Upon this principle he must object to one part of the tariff. He alluded to the two articles of shoes and gloves. He was a little afraid that pushing the principle of free trade to the length to which it was proposed to push it upon those articles would do more harm than it would benefit the consumer. He thought this applied particularly to the case of gloves. With respect to the glove trade, at all events, he thought there could be no doubt that the wearer could better afford to pay a shilling more than the maker could to sell for a shilling less. Still taking the measure of her Majesty's - Governme n t as a whole, he was bound to give his vote for it ; for the only pledge he had been required to give at the last general election was that he would support the Right Hon. Baronet, whom the country at large had pointed to as the man to whom . the Government should be entrusted. He had considered the propositions which had been made by her Majesty's Government ; he believed it was ne nessary for the good of the country that those proposi tions should be adopted, and there was nothing in the taunts of the Noble Lord which should deter him from . expressing his opinion. He thought all men of property ought to be thankful for the opportunity afforded them of contributing to the exigencies of the country ; and the Right Baronet was entitled to the gratitude of the country, for his foresight in providing a remedy for these evils. Mr. PARKER, as the representative of a large con stituency, felt that he should not do his duty to those who sent him to the House if he did not shortly state his reasons for saying " No" to the proposition of the Right Baronet. lie was ready to admit that if the Right .Han. Baronet had brought forward a liberal and enlarged system of commercial policy, he for one should not have objected to adopt his income tax at such a price. But the Right Hon. Baronet in his tariff had not placed upon a satisfactory basis the grea questions of corn and sugar. It was clear that the income tax was a tax which could only be defensible, either upon the ground that it was expedient to submit to it as the price of some great advantage, or that it would be advisable to resort to it in order to meet some great national danger. Agreeing with the Right Hon. Baronet as to the expedi ency of keeping the income equal to the expenditure and admitting the great evils which arose from a tinan-' cial disorder, lie could not concur with him has to the necessity in the present case of resorting to an income tax ; neither, so far as he was able to judge, - did the state of our foreign affairs justify the Right Honourable Baronet in asking for such an extraordinary supply. It did not appear to him a fair proceeding to attempt to justify those measur e s by events that had occurred since they were first submitted to the House.—(Hear, (tear.) Whether right or wrong, they were propounded before ,the melancholy news that had recently been reeeived had reached the borders of this country, and must therefore be considered without reference - to that intelligence. He saw nothing, therefore, to justify the House in resorting to an income t ax . Th e Hon. and Learned Gentleman had alluded to an` ob servation of his Noble Friend, to which he thought too much importance had been attached. He believed that it was applied to a class of gentlemen in that House who had certainly threwn the first stone at the Noble Lord, ' and if they entered into a crusade against the Noble Lord in this style, they could not complain if his Noble Friend did that which he was perfectly able, though not always willing, to do, and gave them as good as they brought. The Hon. Gentleman. had stated that the merit of this property tax was that it would give an increase to the buoyancy of the mercantile interests of the country. But how did it stand with regard to mea sures in themselves creative as to commercial, and productive of a revenue at the same time, while they did not make any demand on the pockets of the people ? In other words, he begged to contrast it with the budget of the late Government, which would have produced a large revenue from sugar, corn, and other articles. He regretted that he had come to the conclusion of voting against the propositions of the Right Hon. Baronet. Lord SANDON remarked on the frequency with which the budget of the late Government had been re ferred to, after the condemnation it had received froth the former House of Commons, whose verdict was con firmed by the people at the general election. He believed that the condemnation which was given to that budget 1. was not more than it merited ; nay, he believed that it was hardly equal to it. As a measure of commercial re form, it might be open to dispute, but as a inee ef finance for supplying the deficiencies of the it was perfectly worthless. What single icons conT s , rely on t o ma k e u p t h e deficiency ? They toecheo' timber, nod sugar. Take the article of corn—nt;, - could they relyfor a revenue from that ? Did it not"' entirely on the coming harvest ; whether it was ti t it ' or a bad one, they would get nothing, as if it w"r!,, they Would not have occasion to import., and if l e e not, the price wo u ld p ro b a bl y b e so hi g h that .the have to take off the fixed duty. In the article of es there 'Would have been a total uncertainty, dePe nel 7o the extent to which' foreign sugar -displaced ou t e`, And in timber the same uncertainty would e xist, getting any revenue arisin g ent i re l y f rom the Pr n r s s,r il in which the Canadian timb er di sp l ace d t h e I.ll ,l t l 'e her, which had hith e rto p a id th e hi g h est duty , 0 1. ' means- of supplying a defi c it, th e b u d ge t was t , worthless, and was it now t o be ca ll e d f rom the sl op , in which it had Ikea entombed, and have a n e° l breathed into its body by those who 'irg l ! r e most interested in opposing the present P sition ? An attempt was made to prop it, vague and general allusion s t o o ther k' ,r taxes that hail been repealed sinc e th e e nd of' Ing e They then relied upon the reviv a l o f t axa tion foto"' the deficiency. Would they then have i nc reased I for the purpose of reviving the languishing trade - manntactures of the country ? N o . Would 'th e e crease the excise or the assessed taxes ? 0 131 would find the assessed taxes snore burdensome the n fessional men did ? • With respect. to all that about the effect of th e inc o me t ax on th e cornmere; gi e o munity, he would state one fact a hich would s' l° oo • fallacy of those arguments. In Li ver p oo l a petill° f got up against an income tax, an d l a id on t h e table ° e Exchange for signature, but after lying th el :s3 . some hours not a single sign a t ure was - be though the petition had been read by several iner c . fe The disasters in Affghanistan were not to be es t . l o s" by the mere losi of men ; they sho u ld a l so take b• b• count the circumstances under which these disas t feci' occurred. It was not like the case of a loss in for 10 1 because the 10,000' men who had perished in a nistan might require 30,000 or 40,000 men to them. Whether any portion of the expenses I V were to be borne by,this country, or w h e th e r 1 1 00 0 ' come to the assistance of India merely by a either case it was fitting that the country shoul"rd that England would, in some way or another, gut, ft the payment of those expenses. It should not 0 4 1 , gotten that the effect of our resources in Delis ne st be deeply felt in China, and might necessitate il i See 4 expenditure in that quar t er . I n any case the lbo ug e war was a heavy burd en u p on th e nat i on . Ile 401' the evils of the inco me t ax wou ld b e colorieerg; by the improvement whi c h it wou ld ena bl e the lobe ment to effect in our commerce. For his part, b e e 01i 6 ,,, that the tax would realise a lar ger sum th an Os*, tbt rated by the Government, and sveild enabl e • further to diminish the restrictions upon commely: t. •steer. all events, he believed that they sho u ld no t 1 1 " , ,, r eir s support the temporary pressure o f th e t ax i n the b e ' circumstances of the country. Complaints oi ti r, made of the severities with which the tax w° 1 , e ,41 upon men of professional incomes ; but, it aPP L ,; O I4 j him, that it would be impossible in a matter of t"_, to take into consideration individual exceptin4l, should be recollected, at the same time, that tb e ei e inroad which was made upon the protectiv! 11 ,1 would tend greatly to reduce the expense of should not have expected so badly of the refornie"eich l of Commons, as that it would present the aspect :r did at present. The large constituencies . i de country said not' a word abo u t th e ' t ax , wh e t ; cefs representatives in that House w ere d o i ng all tLi c i„lir to paint it in the most odio us co l ours . H e belie o the first impression made up on th e House, bY i , e nouncement of the Right Hon. B arone t, was i t j e . 1 17,1 correct—(Hear, hear)—for no one could " 1 ' :else there was a distinct acquiescence of the 113 , °6 ; (Hear.) The Morning Chronicle hesitated ,I n b eit days to give any opinion on the income tax, ane t el ts' e l organ of the late Government thought it convem e e s o7 4 ter a protest against it. But the example of thiit oc ,6, had not been followed by the Whig papers in 1 0e and Yorkshire, whose editors had praised in e br ie worthy of the occasion. —(H ear , h ear .) Befer e eel e down, he must beg lea v e t o sa y a f ew wor ds On {fist' posed alteration of the sugar duties. The 0 4 17 Dr. guished advocates of the abolition of slavery, - le l ington, Sir F. Buxton, and Lord Brougham , e stlfs pressed, at different times, views in accordance 111 1 ,0'" of the present Prime Minister, and were of ori r iseve nothing could be better calculated to induce Maro n e ., ° lfs Guadeloupe to follow the example of this coull!'sse showing them that free labour could compete wit ° j e i 4 o • Without admitting foreign sugar they had g o ols et much revenue in their 40,0001 as had been fj by the Right Hon. Gentl eman th e l ate Ch a ncell or r t e Exchequer as the amount d er i va bl e from higfte ere ty alteration. This wa s no t be s id e t h e ques tion u'e t a e e House,' inasmuch as Hon. Gentlemen oPr o ," taunted the Governme n t f or th e i r con d uc t 10 i biso to that question: He felt it necessary to trial ° t oo: ference, and he thanked th e H ouse f or the a with which they had listened to him. BO ac e Sir C. NAPIER said, if h e b e li eve d an inceil l e elk e i necessary for the interests of the coun t r y, it sh4) oo i r 'll" his immediate. support ; but •he believed tha t 0 0 1, 1 es might have been deri ve d f rom ot h er sourc es ', s' e . e d the deficiency. - With respect to the sliding se e n , Jo r e' was part of the plan o f th e G oveinmen t, 7,t0 believe that that w its a t ell- ca l cu late' c ` lieve the distresses of the country. l e lescle not believe that it' would have any remove the old evils. 'Clio Right. Hon. - et, '„ r e taking otr the,: ditties upon live inattle,,arsklile that that proposal steed not excite the f ears ' l' i ;isiut t , culturists. Now, he (Sir C., N.) was not ; wail tee for' i e nion. He thought th a t establishments' wonit'se abroad to Eitel' rattle, and to introd uce - e err 1 country. That measure, however, would, il e n ' e tited., good to the co nsum e r , an d h e should silPr s . ntl thought - the Right Honourable Baronet vf,' t ie; 10 01 his plan with regard to the timber " n 'et ° . would support it.—(Heate hear.) He - 1 , v upon the disasters which bad occurred ac s s' • as a light matter. Nothing had happens" 0 .00,1e , ' mutiny at the Nore likely to be of such d r it s re efs l ''' I sequences to this country. The disasters 0 1 ' to g i anti of Walcheren co u ld not b e com pare,' ;boot s I and he hoped that th e Ri g h t H on . B aron et, e n i . e • sures which he was a b ou t t o t a k e to repair tlliesli‘! • tees, would send out a sufficient force ; th g : te iVir rememberahose words of the Duke of Wellio;- 0 0; 14 Hon. Gentlemen opposite were so fond of ° )/ 1 , 1 engage in a little war.—(Cheers.) He e ln i e tV e fr same time observe, that the little wars wnl e se e'eir Administration had engaged in had all been tbs P, With regard to China, he thought that if in fling of the contest with the Chinese th ere a 11 40 / a little more expenditure of powder, a n WV less expenditure of ink—(" Hear," and f i ' e tig.V, e , the Chinese aff a ir wou ld h ave b een se ttled (Cheers.) He hoped we should make our ` Y e % e f ii!, Chinese strictly a nav a l war —t a k e. possesslv e seeS el : o coasts, and declare our i n t e n t i on o f keeping . b 'dgiiii" n until our demands should b e satisfied. 'fl int , e l to ( l,s would be much b e t ter than undertaking an , j be s ee' into the interior of th e country . It we al te e peht better for the interests of the country if ti t e n f th e se r r ° l parties would cons en t t o a comprom i s e. e'e s Hon. Baronet . had accepted the Bs. fixed (- 111 /C.e ‘ ell e the sugar duties, a nd th e l egacy tax , lie ( s ' c lois'. l e o . ll ,4 believed he would have b een a bl e t o have t tax of 2 per cent. upon property, and 1 per /el)°, ee be b e Neverthelesie if the present proposition slon i e alt!e O h ; by a large majority,' and he believed it i ' be ° l 3l , b seg„j trusted that his Noble Friend would allow es ' 0 ") . :',1 brought in without further obstruction, °, r e lll . l .; ‘ er l ] g the time of the House might thee be be t ` e oligT4' r than in discussing it night after night'e tired alp cheers.) He did not think that too lo nn ilee• g ePj e t yet been devoted to the discussion. Th e :), l' es t ll `„, - et for Winchester had just told them th, n ..'„,:4 o o 'et necessary to take time to consider the suqr - d - 0 01 all his consideration that Hon. 'Member h ad J og >0 1) ; forward anything very extraordinary.- -- ( 1 ' .te a e er gi el allusion to th proposition made O r ti jer 0%! 1 ,1, Lord to give her Majesty the a ppwer . , L . in 4 ,0 0 1 circumstances to do away by Oru e i - a ill, with the corn duties, the Hon. 111einber , eb ilen ee .al bs will a great Whig Lord ask the Queen of 'S e pr° l o . es l e, on a bread tax ?" Now, the Noble L nr e to.l c'if fe d was, that the Queen should have the ht e iel l. bread tax off—not to put it on—so O. no t ' f a Napier's) opinion, the lion. Member 11" °L as much by his consideration.—(Laugh ten) e,reh l ' e b e 1 1 1 Mr. TROTTER regretted that t be ee ag .0 11 4 e, should have indulged in the lalT e agl to clone when speaking of some of t /efte one e t e the supporters of the Right Honourabl e e s4'lle ther or not the agricultural Members b ust t ee dec i e „ sl dignation of the country, he would leari ea r t a ree asnet to determine. For himself, he did " (4 i /1 thc, ho He (Mr. Trotter) had full confidenr e ie in t he jo the Right Hon. Baronet. He concei t tart' ', e u e enil n el d expressed by the Noble Lord the S ec e e gree t "floes' e te lonies, that the war in the East was the e ps and required the deep consideratiott e - weei i t n 'il i el t ;so the country. Great expenses wou''' `w hat e4' 017 1 rso l tailed on the country by the war. l e r f e e m re se t of India, and from what he had hea r ,',,li e vecl (W t . " had been connected with India, he w e - o r i theta ill• they conquered in the !East, then e e a l es s o f ties commence. This war would hal to le t es about, their necks. With rose:, ho kr: up j posal , of the Noble Lord opposit ° te r ea .. eee l s e, • that if those proposals were calculate d o !: oo h e w f ; 4 1 5 -deficiency in the revenue, he did tl t 3 r or - necessary to have recourse to a loa n ,ad b ee n 1 0 1 0 4,41 interest. The table of the theist, an ufacto rt e l el se ; epe' 1-o went P ties, but those petitions see d, and he• petitions as to the distress of the for tax, as it was termed, on breaffect to that o u r he this would have the contrary ,• I respect to o te 4 Vi it 1 repeal of the duties on corn. 1 , 0 was compe e eel s ic be Ti relie sa ve: believed that the distress would come tax, lie must say that . • it as the best measure that could Guild l " l. ref? large meeting had been held say so, for 61° 4 eif le be brou t g h t f r° . l. j: l e g Queen and m : as ropi %Iti by in deprecation of that income .ns , p 6 ,p ber of atdhdereseisnineugly,tiltilf he Robert Peel. At that meeting, 1 Lau_ e u ic i ing pieo jesty for consenting to . h her her subjects, and e ffect the State equally wit to the ee" ; ,e' concluded with another resolution the proposal, a re solution be s a v l a . feel.was the b s , e ,:oi ,• Robert tax, as proposee by -ir _, Heee, b e ar, 'erf e l Sa l 're tn o7th e 1tt ..0 1 : °,5, propounded s d that 1-lon. Sic'lee s s u it r le e ri t n h g at t(hoenicidirbccumstances of the country , t ` lt- ,;t h e Ministerial benches.) 'He truste . e bad op t" e opposite would allow • that the opinion he who had keit sat do" 10,0, speech of the Hon. Member I 0 lid res o6 t ° ,1$; ) wa il s i n n o o t fel reason why they s on De , any power tax bearing _ eie come tax. If this wort . ee preo 3 '" an individual ospaiindi,"ll. he should demand the lib e er d ty id o not thin!' til':s:l'.4! i'":r he a lotivsi* g e n ' e a : that l no n t s iel eti ot ea-so - 11 :s t eci f um i li t n d r ojr i u t e i tl : , It ild• liavin,., , ,' , ' .l ' ,4,, . lb . l) , B 4l 4 l)osiii ' :e )ou Lf t tvs;;i l ,llo X . ooe sr iittatiol,) ‘ sle e r,in et inelt.r ": : ::e:l :ass a i l, nhadyetidds i a u tl, I t li d na.l:(; h nionao i r). t ldbei l inee eo idn(til t io,r)l.le t safe i r l,iemit o ,dt l ey e tt)ni g ,xlitri t ioi,eagia, l : l i talli l e c o i tl, v ,altlr . : i i i iaz Was • - 1 ' uo u „.l ' t rieh h iea c eeyne a csy r sri, teu.tvem,hoaut:iiirlil recourse l'rst - of th,se tO justify site necessity hal I liceessity ass how, then, rn n ot believe th Its these, and uctieved they articles. WI ti lege means 1 m ore,, frequen u tY• They L ' tely died le , 443 paid, and llicit there t; ' t he,.. face of it " t ,ght to give :t labouring "'resort to a Periments. was her ot :14::} ii::::lt°letilclus:wtsrniotaileitf6seleyec : o , iy w if h e o h fnd af in a ' l le(une tax. ttu income ta. it (night to h th e eastern d Lord exagge; Perils that at t 'f) make out that for such t ax, more es , ricy, even Ne thought . dlgland we ; 3 .? 0 ,000,000/. .. I ' ll '. O'Conr g.rlce, whose vtdaughter.) i less of Engl: uthoritative tons of the ( the wort ess.--(Loui e though . t heir resouri mere they 901. :Sibthor . i Were . they Prance lei 'listed. Ho 4 , War maker ‘" Hear, hey, t-'eure in the ! 1 1,. America.- W ere i teh n e p e e r r , "", cause they 114 ! right of !test unque: ( ts4to4,4ek y 11e4 1 (y werelpthatl a laa n n n u ft h • t at !lola in tern 46 rt if neces aetua THE SUN, LONDON, TIIU.RSDA Y . EVENING, APRIL 14. 194 f!. • :tj in. Li