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• . prepared to sacrifice millions of their fellow-subjects. He had to desire to excite the working-classes; but when ever' he had touched upon an exciting topic he had Inveriably seen the chord vibrate. They were like a barrel of gunpowder, ready to explode in a moment, bad they but a. dozen leaders to direct their movements. He held in his hand an extract &ern a work published by SirJ.Taktaliam, though not, he was sorry to say, very re dently.•=-:( Laughter.) He thought theassage could not be too well known. In his pamphlet on " Cor n and CurrenCy," Sir James Graham stated "that the paramount duty of every Government is attention to the interests of the community, in which the labourers must form the great majority. The right of property is itself instituted, not for the few who possess wealth and honours, but of the many who have them not. If the majority are deeply injured, the public peace is in danger ; if the majority want food, private property becomes a nuisance." —( A voice, " Well done, Sir James Graham.") Why Sir James had since changed his principles, he knew not. For him self, after long consideration, he was confirmed in the opinion that when the majority wanted food private property became a nintatine.—( Hear.) . Before he sat down, he wished to state a few facts respecting his native town—the town of Sutton-in- Ashfirld, , its Nottmethantshire. That town contained 6,000 inhabitants and 1.100 houses. Out of the 1,100 houses not more than 6(10 paid peer-rates. The amount of poor-rates was about Ss. in the pouud. A large cotton-mill which had been in teietettee several }ears, had stopped within the last two months. The state of the village would be much worse but for the allot rent eye rin . te 'deb had been carried out to such an extent by the Duke ta : Portland and others, that one-sixth of the inhabitants had a piece of garden to assist them. He hail recently been in the wen. As he was conversing with a friend on the state of the toe n. his friend remarked, that only a few days ago as he was ea .sing to his own house lie met au individual, whom he snrotioned by name. He wondered why - he looked so melan fthelys and why he was wandering about the lane, eitd•ad dreseel •the man slime the subject. At first he refused to trio' any explanation; but when pressed he said, "I have lint melting to r rat since yesterdey at DOM, but that I do slot care ao touch about ; but try family end children are crying for bread, and I could not leer to hear them."—( Hear, hear.) It had been Mated by sinus one - With : respent te +beery:sent. state of thing; (he believed be Sir It. Pesi)—that it was. the „'ill of Providence that the coe etre should be' i e its - present condition.—(Cries of mares •.") • Ile was at a loss tin knoW how any • rational man eeitlit make use of such an expresSion. He really , fee 'it- we '•it )Bret fet the Deity to say that; it was the .Diveie 'evii.l' - than. thansaeuls of our fellow beings sjteuld sitiree for wantl f fare!, while there were nembere rmling' he Wiley and wealth.—•( Hear, hear.) On looking aomod hialie saw that the birds of the air, the beasts of the field, anti even thiameaeest reptile that crawled on the -groutei, had its wants supplied, and yet man, who was formed. in the imege of ' his - Creator, mall who was himself the lord of' the'' tt..teat ism, was ' unable to get a inftrsrl of livid for himself and those . who were deeendetit ueoe ' hire.' •It wee not the operatives alines, but tee . m iddle classes themselves, whose interests were at stake, It the repent cif the Corn-laws were delayed mirth longer, it *maid . be ,if li:tle tie to the country; it would be too late to reieesly the evil ; it would be like shutting the stable door when steed was gone. ele. Seem,. of Leeds, then rose to address the meeting, and is. a , most enthusiastically received. Ile hail often said, when eelieti before his fellow- operatives . , that he rose with reluctance; he eiways did so because he was not in his element iii public epeaeiug..--(Cheers.) Those who had addressed the meeting bef , aes hint had left him nothing to do.—(Cheers. ) The meet ing had heard the dowers of Leeds, and they hail left him no t hieg to say.—( Cheers.) He must hewever be allowed to say a iesir words. Durine " th e latter part of the last year a number n'' (jperativt4 in Leeds saw and felt a considerable degree of die ices ; they wished to help themselves if they could, and their failiny operatives, but how they were to de that was the question iii' :t them.—( C heers. ) They had no pecuniary means, and at last. they determined to form ail Association, to be called " The Leeds Unemployed Operative Committee." Men from every shell bees rite members of that Society ; they subscribed Ores peony a week cacti, and upwards of 50/. was raised by that utraes. It was trite that they might have got mote, that they might have had 51. from Mr. Beckett, but they wished to steer elesr of politics.—( Cheers.) He believed if they called the society the Inhumanity Preventive Society, it would have a better effect -. thaw calling it the Anti-llonopoly Society.— ( Cheers. )- In the Society to which he hail alluded, certain eetenerators were appointed, and from their proceedings it :etre:teed that 1,916 present who were employed in ne e e n • were -in the receipt of only about 11 • 13. ast eck each. Stich a state of things had been reported to Sir • .I:mies Graham. He lamented, or at least he said that he la mented, the sad condition of the people.—(Cheers.) 'But . he weeld- tell hinse that pity without relief was looked upon in the '7.orih as-little or nothing.—(Cheers.) It might be slid that there was some party feeling in all this—that was not the caw. The only object they had in view was humanity, and to excite pubte sympathy ; that sympathy had been excited, snit this more :inquiry that was made, the more every one was roevinced they were right. It was clearly seen that some thine must be done, mei the wealthy inhabitants of Leeds sub serbed upwards of 7,000/. for so patriotic a purpose. Tine amount was properly distributed and as gratefully riot ;it affordeel many a hearty meal ; it pre served mese; from starving, and others from a premature grave —( Cheers)—but that auto could not last for ever; it had heroine exhausted, anti the operatives were now left to starve, because instead ofgettine more they got less work.--(Cheers.) Charity was all very well , ' but when applied to a wanting popu lation it was only like a gleans of sunshine on a wintry day. The worthy Delegate then proceeded to show the distress that was existing in Leeds, and in doing so stated that of 166 gigs formerly employed, not more than .20 were in full work, 4..! worked , only part time, and 104 were standing still. This showed the condition to which the population was reduced. With respect to his own Lundy, he might say there were five brothers, and he could venture to say that upon the average they hat oot worked more than 2V 2 days a week. With respect to the weeking men generally, such was their condition that if they we it to their siek-Cluh they would not receive a farthing, be. else they were not clear on the books.—(Cheers) He had snei nemy eaen fif distress : at one place' that be vistted the 6atr is fase. , iind,' and the 'old' woman who lived close by ttetedpnifilirtlett P k ee reason th e , kept it so was, that they werean.lAVitie letilits: Wiwi; lie went- into the house the s , e'lletnir )1400ta I itielf was heaitatending in the extreme. i ll In efillt lidiYial;ftititia:th , father ' and • mother gone out to find tittris `,' tilVbrishilifeini were lyieg sat w hit w a s called a bed, but irlitat tkii iiiatAtriiiiillie Inane : such were - the scenes which he lial,l;W - Itt&editi'n Eitliglitenrct England. - ' In another place lie. had 'it i tte'd, elthotigh'eseerything around Was clean, he would not lease given' ime shilling all' the bed they ha.d. Such . vies the state of things that was at present going on ; and, in aildi!lone to this, he could take them • to the house of a - Ina ri - echo - had b e en highly respeetably brought ma • ' 'she, although the pianoforte - still graced This re eininas in the greatest penury and distress. And .aneli ee, ...;Ut. 4 i 1 .4 ifigie were to be called paupers.—(Cheers.) For hes utyn .eart, if he had to make a new grammar , the word '. tefetti4' . eheultr bet . omittell—( Cheers)—because; as he under - stooneW,"ifie ' word pauper meant a vagabond ;-• hut the rain' iilid7(ie - - limiest. however - great his difficulties, was en, a feliesierst';e--i Loud and continued cheering.) As he was nee probable as near to Sir R. Peel as lie ever should be, he might peril:S.le be permitted to give him a few words of advice. --eClicers. ) " Yon, Sir 'Robert Peel, complimented the ~ , -king clasy, it, the Queen's Speech for their great. Ina. tienee.** Again, he would say that the men of the north thought as little of pity without relief as of a shadow teal:out the substance.—(Cheers.) Sir It. Peel had professed a great deal latterly for the working classes, but. he was sorry to say he had done but little. It had lien eleariy shorn by Mr. Bright, if Rochdale, that his sliding-scale was a delusion, and it had been shown else that the tariff was little better.—(Cheers.) The working classes could see and think—(Cheers)- 1 tiey knew that they were not represented—( Cheers) e—and they knew that the voice of the people was net honestly spoken in the House of Commons. —(Cheers.) Now the motto he would use would be "Justice . 6 one; justice to 'all."—(Cheers.) He would say, let the landed rich proprietor have for his ground what it was worth— (t. leers )—let the enterprising British merchant have for his clone what it was worth (Increased cheering)—and let the ingenious operative bare for his labour a full and fair reemieratitive(C•ontinued cheering)—and if it was the design of- Providence that England should follcw in the wake of Greece and of Rome, let that be proved by Providence, and out by theory.----( Cheers.) If not, and disturbance should take piece, no doubt Sir R. Peel would take steps to put it down, but in his opinion the greatest riot to be feared was the riot in men's empty stomachs. " Let labour have its due," bus it never would have its due until the markets of the world should be open to us. The CIIA I R.SI A s then requested that those Delegates who were desirous of addressing the Conference would leave their names in the next room with Mr. Kicker or Mr. Wellday. The Delegates were also requested to leave their London address in a book provided for that purpose. It was' also announced that in consequence of the unexpected and gratifying largeness of this attendance on that flay . , the Con ference would be held tomorrow, at eleven o'clock, m the large room at the Cecwn and Anchor Tavern. - --( Cheers. ) Mr. G. 111-10MPSO, the Secretary, said that this day had been devoted to receiving the statements of the Delegates, and that it had been deemed expedient to postpone the discussion of measures of relief until all the Delegates should have arrived. lle would, therefore, call upon Mr. Coates, 'a Delegate from . . the Tower Hamlets, to address the meeting. Mr. Coents had never risen. under greater difficulty to ad dress a peblic meeting, for his feelings had been so harrowed up by the distressing details to which he had listened, and where he • - felt acutely, he expressed himself strongly, that he hardly dared to -trust himself to give expression to those feelings of shanie ... and iielignation which burned in his bosom. These things might have been supposed to have happened in some mean, „renna'pettv, tar despotic State ; hut when he heard these things -' • aird .called to ..nsind the wealth--(Cheers)—the philanthropy -. ---(Cheer;)—and, snore titan all, the religion—(Loud .. ch e ering)—of the country, he was ashamed of the .netne. of Briton, and felt that we must become the • seeffef every enlightened nation.—(Cheers.) If tine Legista .lm4 and the Govertiment had determined on making some dteittrate experiment es til lion far the feelings of the people "ilk r• ge--( Cheers )—if they had been engaged in some cruel, culte:attempt to ascertain to what degree of starvation and suf.; feilttg the people would patiently submit—( Cheers) —he could understand the course of polio: pursued by the Administration. - Tien bee her o temetantly met with complinierits to the work . life ;hese, on the Itatienee, ;;roil tinder, and meekness, with wliteh they had submitted to their sufferings. That was the e nuiee - whice had beet' pursued by Sir Robert Peel. The time tiiight come whet' the workine classess would discover that they hail reached a degree of suffering, to submit to which was emosistent neither with virtue nor with patriutism.—( Loud u n e , e - es .-) If that time ever should arrive, the impatience of the p eo ple would have been o by cruelty and in- ecaaioned solely 1 „ n i ee .—( Cheers.) It he thought that by his pretence at that tweeting he was e' en itidirectly signifying that he placed the smellest confidence in the House of . Commons, or in the Goa cerement, he would At luteo quit the room. Ile felt he ontold be 1-04efillg a tleSiOn if he were to seek to lettuce a belief that they had anything to expect . form either ties House of Counnorie or the i:overnmeitt. The I Lease of Cotomont would do nothing, fur them ; but by their Attendance there, they would prove to the whole won H how little the ilouae of Commons sympathised with the suffering millions.--(Cheers.) The daily journals ought to have been )'famed to record that when the distresses of the working c'n. , (-5 —the (weenies of wealth—s'tir's to be inquired into by the Hon-e of Commons—when the inquiry had been cont . mrneed. and eommenced in such a inatiner that Sir Robert Wel fled been afraid to oppose the adjournment of the debate —that at such a time they could not make a House, as had been tile case last night—( Cries of " Shaine, shame !")—that there ',ed.! 'riot be found 40 Members to sympathise with the '".fr" . . - ing. ,. of the peop'e was most disgraceful .— ( Loud t' l 7rs- 1 He thought it was too much the habit of their ftral Teel. end s in I )tilers I 'arliament to barely compliments with' Sir )ro e b , They heard a great deal of Sir Robert Peel's; e,wn T a i i a d eriitihn for * t h e wor ki ng c lasses. Lord Johns Russell had that he had not the smallest doubt but that the Right Hon. Barottet felt the ;realest commiseration for the state of the working classes- H: (31r. Coates) did doubt it very much. __(.Cheers, and cries of "So do we.") Men were genera lly are ea red by mot eves Bend feelinee, and he-could w' hieh stoosr.by .. ..and did net underst and that eynteathY 'Vie:res.) : Fruip.Ltl.irly Years':,a nothing.—(Loud liamwition Of Sir Robert Peel's .-. .. I : e niene• iin'tititre l7l *P r """ r 'c 4 limos to be a weak and a dan.. P g i u t t t ei a y n_eir ( e unprincipled '' :genius 31inittere .surer', the dap of ~...,' il ,p ciL i ii mi .it. neverigi_ov.peffrr j? ried ii t tch.,4 l: i is ?,2, il er li ir? la g.a t ,:t e t i l l e. ( d • 1 i e that o t v i v e i e w s; l . - a :o t e l t:a o h l l e p v e e i r e s e e i ) e , . • hYl'oimsy.—( Vehement 'and to the party of which. Pee was the leade r , the ea h r ebenefit . .; of the plea . o f i g norance; he thought t hat they were norant of the truly beneficent principles of free trade ; but such was not the case. Since the days of Huskisson, it ap peared that Sir Robert Peel and his party had been in love with the principles of free trade; and what had they done in consequence to modify our commercial cede ? They had ap plied the principles of free trade very ingeniously to a great many unimportant matters, and considered that the principles of free trade were so excellent, that even this moderate appli cation of them would enable the nation to support the in fliction of an Income-tax.—(Loud cheers.) Sir Robert Peel had observed that there was no unmixed good in , nature, and had determined that there should be none of his measures without a mixture of evil, taking care at the same time that the evil should vastly preponderate.—(Cheers.) If cheap beef was such a benefit why not cheap bread ?—(Loud cheers. ) Why not cheap coffee and cheap sugar?—(Loud cheers.) How had the nation been treated in the article of sugar, after having made a present to the West Indian planters of 20,000,000/. of money ? The nation had been taxed for them 5,000,000/. a year ever since. Instead of unfolding the great principles of commerce, the Government had been engaged in coining dolts for the use of the people—(Laughter)—and considering the chandler-shop, huckstering, miserable measures of the present Government, he doubted not but that it would be known in history as the Half-farthing Administration.—(Loud cheers and laughter.) They were told all this frightful distress was to be relieved by charity. Charity began at home, and there were thousands to whom the begging-box had been held out who stood as much in need of charity as those did fur whom the subwription was solicited. He had been ap• plied to by the Churchwardens of his parish in the country; he took them into the room, shut the door, and then, instead of a subscription, he had given them—for he had not sent thesis empty away--a lecture on the Curti-laws.—(Cheers and laughter.) Ile (Mr. Coates) had opposed this begging-letter, because he would not lend himself to delusion. He considered that it. was a degradation to the clergy to be asked to read that letter in their churches, but he supposed as it was their duty, they must submit to it. If Fe were a clergyman who was desired to read the letter, he would call on them to curse those who withheld corn from them. With respect to the Tower Hamlets—the district with which he was connected—he was not furnished with any minute details, but he was aware that in almost every department of trade, the coalition of the people was gradually deteriorating. Cer tagly, in one part of the district, which bordered upon the water, the shipping trade was in rather a brisk state, I;et the principal activity was in those dockyards in Which the Government vessels were fitted up. There was one large class of persons in the Tower Hamlets district, the publicans and innkeepers, who he could attest were suffering very severe distress.' It' that proceeded from the pre,. valence of temperance he would be the first to rejoice at it, :cut when he knew that the labourer was able to drink nothing but water while the Duke of Buckingham drank champagne. he was shocked at slut inequality that existed in the iannlition of different members of the community. He had said that they could not look to the House of Commons fin- relief, further titan they could work on the fears of that assembly. They would get nothing from their sense of justice, and that system would go on increasing as long as the people • were patient, and submitted to it. With respect to Sir R. Peel and the Conservative party, he never expected anything from therm, but he was hound to say that the Liberal Members of the House of Commons had disappointed him. And if men of rank and editeation would not perform the duties which devolved upon them, as representative• of the people in the Legislature, they must address men who, like the operatives who had addressed thew: that day, would bring honest and firm purpose to the dis•charge of their duties. 'l'be Cita t s 3IA N sant that it had been agreed upon to adjourn eaeli day's proeeedinee at three o'clock. It now only wanted half an hour of that. time, and be thought it bet ter that the meet ing should stand adjourned till to-morrow at eleven o'clock. Mr. J. Scoutx said, that he should not have ventured to obtrude himself at the present early period of the meet iis of the delegates, but for some observations that had fallen from the last speaker. That gentleman had rightly in culcated the necessity of union and honesty of purpose among those who had that great object in view that brought the pre sent meeting together. He generally concurred in that gen tleman's observations with reference to the House of Commons and Ministers. But he (Mr. Scoble) wished to impress upon their minds, that they had enemies both within and without the camp, who advocated the most liberal opinions in public life, and shrunk from those ®pinions in private, when in the society of Members of Par liament—men who pretended to be friends of the Anti-Corn law League. but who did nut boldly dare to support it in private. When he considered the immense wealth, intelli gence, and public spirit represented at an early part of the present year, by the Assembly which had then met in London to promote the cause now under consideration—when he looked at the vast efforts madeby the influential members of the Assembly, and the little impression which those efforts made upon the • public mind, and upon both Houses of Parliament, he attributed the failure altogether to the practice of certain parties mtlintafri ing in public principles and opinions from which they shrunk when in the company of Members of Parliament. He caution:Ai the meeting against those individuals, and he called upon such individuals, whose conscience upbraided them with their conduct, either to abandon the Anti-Corn-law League altogether, or to do their duty as members of it manfully and sonestly, in order to the accomplishment of the great object la view. Mr. BeeKiianr would not have troubled the meeting but for the observations of the Delegate from the Tower Hamlets, relative vs the prosperity of the shipping interest. That gentleman had derived his information most probably from persons in connection with the London and St. Kathe rine's Dock, and from merchants, but he (Mr. Burkhart) had an intimate knowledge of the East and West India Docks, and he had received communications from the shipwrights and operatives connected with the shipping interest, who stated that nothing could be farther from prosperty than their calling. Never was there greater distress among those operatives than at the present time. He knew of himself 500 shipwrights to be out of em pioyment, and except those employed in fitting out ships of war, the vast majority of the workmen were out of employment. A GENTLEMAN whose name we did not learn, lint who stated that he was a Delegate from Rotherhithe, confirmed the statement of Mr. Buckhart. Mr. Cosi' es explained— He said it would be in the recollec tion of the meeting that his statement as to the prosperity of the shipwrights, applied only to those employed in fitting out vessel , : of war and for foreign service, and therefore his obser vations corresponded with those of the last two gentlemen. Mr. GEORGE Tiro sIeSON said he deemed it of importance to remark that it. was the opinion of many concerned in the duty of calling together the present Meeting of Delegates, that the De putation should be continued in town until the last hour of the present session of Parliament.—(Cheers.) It was the feeling of sonic, at lkst, when the Delegates were last. in town, that had they delayed their departure they would have produced a much greater.; effect,—( Hear.) Gentlemen, therefore, would du well to get their commissions prolonged, or at all events, to get substitutes from the districts they represented.—(Cheers.) Mr. A'slinoirs then proceeded . to address the meeting. He should not have trespassed on their attention at that late mo ment., were it not that he found he should be unable to attend to-morrow. He had heard it suggested that they should con tinue to sit until the adjournment of Parliament ; but he would ask how was it to be expected that a vast number of Delegates, who were engaged in the same hard warfare with circumstances to which the gentlemen who bad preceded him had alluded, would leave their pursuits and business in order to attend, day after day, in order to hear statements of distress which were known to every one. He had at tended the Conference at the Crown 'and Anchor four months ago. A vast number of Delegates were present on that occasion; but he would ask what they had done? They had, as the eloquent Mr. Thompson observed, separated without earning to any resolution. Were they to de so again ?—( Cries of " No.") The manufacturers in England who had suffered from the existing state of our Legistature, had ('assembled together ; and he would ask them whetter they were prepared to suffer any longer? He told the manufacturers of England that it was for them to put an end to the great evils under which the country laboured. The shopkeepers of this metropolis were not suffering so deeply as the inhabitants of the manufacturing districts ; a large portion of the wealth of the landowners was spent among them, and against the class on which they so much depended they could never be brought to combine, unless some practical object was held out for their attainment..—( Hear, hear.) He wished further to tell that meeting that without the aid of the inhabitants of the metropolis they never could effect their pur pose. Now he had a plan to propose for the adoption of the manufacturers of England. It was stated that manufacturers had been of late selling at an actual loss. Why then did they not close up their mills altogether? They could not suffer much by taking such a course ; and when Sir R. Peel saw the whole suppo:t of the people thrown upon the Government, lie would be compelled to make terms with the manufacturers. If the manufacturers did not support the people, the land should sup port them, and a burden would thus be thrown upon the landed interest, which they would feel it their interest not long to submit to. Let the manufacturers put a stop to their works and such a course would speedily be attended with effects which they cooll never hope to tollow from resolutions agreed to day after day "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." The classes who suffered from the injustice of our legislation, by adopting the plan he had proposed, would manifest their own •strength, and would make it felt by the class from whom they suffered. A definite object would thus be placed in view ; and that justice which had been denied as a right would be spee dily yielded by the fears of those who abused power for their own seltiis.h purposes.—(Cheers.) A Mx: BER of the COMMITTEE here proposed to Mr. Ash down that he should attend the Executive Committee that evening, when his suggestion would be taken into consideration. The meeting then adjourned until to-day at 11 o'clock, at the Crown and Anchor Tavern. • --- ENGLISH OPERA-HOUSE. • On Monday a new piece was brought out at this theatre, Written by Mr. Raymond, and we are happy—very happy—to say that it met with and deserved complete success, and we cannot retrain from expressing a hope that the performances at • this English house will receive the patronage of a British public. The play to which we have alluded is called The Lone Mt, and its story is soon told. A peasant named Jerome (F. Matthews), has a daughter, Lisette (Miss Crisp), who is loved by Antoine, a peasant in the neighbourhood. She, however, has formed an attachment for Lindorf (Diddear), who is sup posed to. he a person of high birth and great wealth, anti this attachment is apparently returned. The time of the nuptials is fixed, and there are to be gay doings in the s illage ; but in the meantime Hortense (Mist Faucit), a niece of Jerome's has met Lindorf, whom she had known under another name, and also knew that he had murdered a relation. She declares to him that if he will not give up Li sette she will denounce him, but upon his promising to do so she swears she will not divulge the secret. On the return of Hortense to her uncle's, he charges Fier with base ingratitude in having been guilty of inducing Lindorf not to marry his daughter. She will not tell.-hini the reason, and he drives her from his house. Lindorf hears of this, and under pretence of protecting her, he hires a man to conduct her to the moun tains, having for a bribe promised Brent (A. Wigan) to let him have his " lone hut" for one night. He then employs an Hungarian (0. Smith) to be at the but that night, and to murder Hortense. here is a very fine and effective scene be tween Miss Faucit and 0. Smith, and drew down loud plau dits. Hortense is to be dispatched immediately the cluck strikes twelve, but just before that time Antoine and Brent arrive, rescue her, and kill the Hungarian. Lindorf believing Her ense to have beenkilled, returns and claims Lisette, and thee are about to be united when Hortense again appears, denounces him, and he is shut in an attempt to make his escape through a mountain pass. There are two lively parts, which are played by Harley and Miss Murray, who excited great laughter. The acting throughout was exceedingly good, and what is not often I the case upon a first representation, the performers were appa -1 ren dy perfect in their parts. There was a very pretty ballet in troduced, which met with' an unanimous encore. Some of the )scenery was extremely beautiful. The curtain fell amidst the m ost enthusiastic cheering , and the piece was given out for re petition this evening; and we have no doubt it will be highly ssful. succe • By a vessel, which atarrived itay; on the 26th instant, accounts ha ve been received from Guadaloupe, eleven days later in date than by the preceeding arrival. The merchants of that colony had, in consequence or the embarrassment created by the postponement of the Sugar Bill, applied to the Governor for pecuniary a id, and de. mandAl that their bills• might be discounted with the colonial Funds. The Governor refused. Sovereigns are•not required to turn the scale; they , are weight if they are an exact balance with it, and cannot be legally refused at their - full value of 20s. THE SUN, LONDON; WEENESD AY MORNING, JULY 6, 1842. TILE REVENUE FOR THE YEAR AND QUARTER E. No. I.— An Abstract of the Net Produce of the Revenue of Great Britain in the Years and Quarters ended sth of July, or Decrease on each head thereof. DING JULY 5, 1842. 841, and sth of July, 1842, showing the Increase QUARTERS ENDED Y EAR QUARTERS ENDED YEAR Year eas e en d i ed D J e u c l r y: se.., „I Q n u c a r r e t a e s r e. ended July 5. , „,...-........-----.---...............--..., ended ,„„.. _........._ ~ ended , - 1-..- -Necrease. Oct. 10, Jan. 5, April 5, July 5, Ju l y 5 , Oct. 10 , Jan. 5 , April 5 , July 5, ' July 5, 1810 1811 1844 1841 1 841 18 1 184'2 1812 1812 1842 In cr • ---- -.---- ------- -- .......... - 4. us'oms.-Consolidated Duties. 4,562,048 0,611,292 3,527,82_ 1 3,767,034 - 4 , 2 56,8 23 3 , 81 9, 266 3 , 555 , 052 3 , 120,603 - - - - Sugar Duty applicable to Consolidated Fund - - - 909,678 - - - 5'5.798 1,301,533 - - - _ - Sugar Duty applicable to Supplies 1,109,829 736,614 990,6E2 17 ,874 - 1,140,389 1,106,008 413,603 - - - - - - -- -:-.---- -- ------- -- - Total Customs. '5,462,.77 4,2/30,906 4,513,503 , 4,948,5814 19,41 0 , 877 5,737,217 4,7 1 15,274 4,49.:, , 33 4,422,191 '9,449,725 38,859 4268 5 Excise 3,916,249 4,010,366 1,885,4 7 0 2,795,312 1 :,613,397 4,161,906 3,:39,270 1,769,161 2,811, 1 10 12,559,397 54,000 94,788 Stamps 1,751,417 1,596,646 1,677,404 1,690,821 6,706,238 1,7 ,1 2,71 1 4 1,619,517 1,5 , ",497 1,098,379 6,649,387 57,201 17,554 - Taxes .. 3'32,807 1,786,771 :2 2 , 045 2,q10,6, 6 4,37 2 , 3 19 32 1. ,1 0 0 1,910, 0 1 0 150,753 2,059, 1 239 4,440,1 , 2 67,843 28,543 - Post Office 123,000 48,0013 93,000 119,000 43:3,000 116,001 127,000 142,000 154,00 1 1 53!1,00+1 100,000 35,004 - Crown Lands 4 5 ,44 10 40,000 32,500 I 30,000 147,5 00 30,100 49,, 0 50,500 30,000 180,3100 32,500 - Miscellane.. , is 24,382 12,437 49,1:6 18,235 104,130 15,325 15,052 323,193213,757 567,327 463,147 195,522 - - - - - Total Ordinary Revenue.... ..... 11,855,7.,2 11,931,1.6 6,473,053 11,522,650 43,787,5.1 12,152,772 12,254,123 8,530,147 11,467,666 44,581,708 1 708,34 • 13 111,201 371,411 426,1J5 111 I mprcst and other Moneys 8 9 , 099 39,546 32,151 } 14 7 ,9.5 24-,881.1 71,555 69 , 545 _ Re-payments of Advances ........... --- - - Total Income 12,111,130 12,057,620 8,609,200 111,c64,113 ! I 44,672,225 1 12,35.2,951 12,426,169 8,720,'32 11,837,748 , 45,337,400 772,003 114,723 410 , 956 467,363 .-- ' The Amount applied to the Consoli- 1 I Deduct De Deduct dated Fund 3,6132,179 F,037,023 7,390,901 6,753,4.92 31,763,993 10,473,911 8,787,558 7,043,4124 6,930,776 1 :13,271,649 crease Increase. Ditto, as Advances 70,000 30,00 11 382 , 150 192,550 571,600 (0,000 ::0,000 15,112 2:30,622 325,731 1 114,728 ,-- 440953 -- Ditto, aspart of the Ways and - Means of the tear I ,--- - Total. , 12,111,M0 1 l'' 087 k 0 8,609,100 I 11.364,175 444 ,Ii 2,225 I 12,352, 9 51 12,42606111 8,720,5.32 1'1,'37,744 145,3:37, '0 11 4;65,175 1 26,407 _____ .... No. IL—lncome and Charge of the Consolidated Fund, in the Quarters ended the sth July, 1841, and the sth July, 1842. 1 Quarters ended July 5. 1 . Quarters ended July 5. le"" -------- " --; INCOME. 1811 1812 CHARGE. 1841 1812 Customs.—Consolidated Duties 1 3,767,034 3,120,608 Permanent Debt 8,1x5,0:9 8,276.' ,. 4 Sugar appl:cable to the Terminable Annuities 672, 3. 7 664,358 Consolidated Fund ' 909,678 1,301,583 Interest on Exchequer Bills issued to meet the charge on the Consolidated Fund 21.,8'22 15,164 Sinking Fund — Total Customs i 4,4376,712 4,4'..2,191 The; Civil List 'Other charges on the Consolidated Fund Excise S tam p s - --, Taxes Post Office 1 119,000 154,000 The Surplus ! 1,493,314 2, 8 . 1,348 Crown Lands ; 6,00 I 30,0011 - i -- Nti,cellancous ; 1',2.5 '213,757 • ; 11,110,702 112,052,7'0) Impreat and other Monica I 197,983 247,520 1 -- Repayment of Advancer ; 143,54) 102, ) 52 • • —.....--•-•••11The Amount of Exchequer Bills issued to wet the charge on the Consolidated Fund for the Quarter ended April 5, 1842, 1 11,7112,70'2 11,?.52,7:iti • • and paid offs out of the growing produce of that Fund for the Quarter ended July ~ 1t , 42 ; ;The Amount issued in the Quarter ended July 5, 1844 in part of the sums granted by Parliament out of the Consoli 'To Cash brought to this Account I I dated Fund for Supply services to be applied to ply off' Deficiency I ,The Surplus of.the Consolidated Fund, Quarter ended July 5, 181 , 8i115.... . •—• • 200,0( 0 i ' ..'''...... 1 The probable amount of Exchequer Bills required to meet the charge on the Consolidated Fund, Quarter ended 4)2 i 11,119,7 12,052.739 I! July 5, 1812 I ...... . 7,500,217 IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. of not the slightest benefit to the people of this country, whilst it would cause a deli ciency in the revenue.—(Hear.) . The next article on which he had cast his eye was copper ore and other ores Now he could not see the least reason for the reduction of the duty upon ores. Or, if there was any good reason for the re duction of duty upon ores, there could be none for reducing the duty upon manufactured metal. He must also complain of the reduction of' the duty upon whale-oil. He would ask the House if they intended to employ none other but foreign oil in this country? Hs next came to drugs, and here too he must say that he could not see the advantage to be derived from the proposed reduction. He did not believe that the price of drugs wield be reduced even to the extent of one of the rew half-farthings about to be coined. He also objected to the reduction of the duty upon timber. The re duction in the duty on timber would only benefit the builder of a house l per cent., not on the cost of the timber, but on the cost of the whole house. What inducement was this, then, for an in rease in the consumption? With rereect to the articles of shoes and leather, the reduction in the duty rendered it impossible for the English artisan to com pete with the foreign. So with other articles. He had seen a watch which had ben manufactured at eneva, and which had paid duty into this country, and sold for Si., while the same article could not be manufactured here for less than 25/. His Noble Friend talked of smuggling, bat he should like to kn iw if any person ever attempted to smuggle a drove of cattle or a load of timber.—(Laughter. 1 There were many branches of our native manufactures that would be entirely, he feared, destroyed by the operation of this tariff, while his Noble Friend said that he expected an extension of commerce from it. The reduction proposed would have the effect of throwing labourers out of employment. He would not go into the general question of free trade, but he considered that it was a system at variance with the habits and character of the people of this country. It was utterly impossible to be applied in this country, which had sprung up and flou rished under a protective and prohibitory system. He be lieved that the step which had been taken by the present Government was only the first step to the destruction of that system under which the country had flourished. 13' tit he believed that, the time would come when no man would dare to mention the name of free-trade. He could not ad mire the course which had been taken by the parties in another place. It was a kind of servility to a Minister, and they acted with boldness, and made assertions supported by the mere ipse dixit of a Minister whom they considered in fallible. He believed that the course taken by that Minister would have the effect of destroying that administration ; but it was not this that he regretted—(Loud laughter)—but the evil conseqUences which would result from the country being under such a Government.—(Loud laughter.) It would be a great delusion to suppose that the new tariff was really popular in the country. The tariff was popular in Yorkshire and Lincolnshire, as he had been informed by a friend thoroughly conversant with the matter, because a nume rous party there believed that it would lead to a dissolution of society. fhat was the opinion avowed by Mr. F. O'Connor, who said that he had nothing to change in the new tariff, and that he believed that the disappointment which would follow its enactment would throw thousands of parties into the ranks of the Chartists. He ( Earl Stanhope) entreated and conjured their Lordships to deliberate and pause before they adopted a measure which would infallibly accelerate the dangers that were rapidly approaching.—(Hear, hear .) He entreated of them to respect the rights of the labouring classes, which they could not; disregard without injustice, and he would venture to add, in those times, without peril. He maintained that a long-continued distress, which could he traced to the acts of the Legislature, was a sufficient ground for complaining of the present state of our legislation ; and fur ther, that it justified the cry for a change in the Constitution, if no means were taken to remedy the evil. If this tariff were adopted and brought, as he believed it would ting, ruin upon large portions of the working classes, he was convinced there would soon be raised an irresistible cry throughout the land for Universal Suffrage. He felt so deeply the importance of the question—he was so confident, that if they adopted the pro posed measure, they would accelerate the approaching revolu tion, that he thought it his duty again to conjure their Lord ships not to sanction the great changes then under their con. sideration. He should, therefore, move, that instead of being read a second time then, the Bill should be read a second time that. day six months; and however small might be the number of those who should coincide with him, he should certainly divide the House on the subject. The Duke of RICHMOND said, that however much he might differ from his Noble Friend with respect to SORII3 portions of the speech he had just delivered, he should feel, it his duty to vote with him. He could not approve of a measure which would so greatly unsettle existing interests as the new tariff. His Noble Friend at the head of the Board of Trade had attempted to show that no large importation of cattle could be expected from other countries under the proposed measure ; but if that were the case why had his Noble F. tend introduced a plan calculated needlessly to exci . e so much alarm, and to create such extensive changes idlliour commercial system? Again, he confessed, that he saw with great suspicion that the Government measure was supported by all the advocates of free trade in the other House, and by the enemies of the aristocracy. He disapproved of those prin ciples of free trade, because he believed that the British farmer, heavily burdened as he was with peculiar taxes, could not compete with the farmers of fareign countries. He found that while the tariff was likely, in must of its provi sions, injuriously to affect the interests of the British farmer, no concession was made to our agriculturists except in the single article of a particular species of manure. He repeated that he should, upon these grounds, vote with his Noble Friend ( Earl Stanhope), although he did not approve of the course he had taken of going to a division, because he was sure it could only show the smallness of the numbers of those opposed to the Go vernment. The Marquis of CLANRICARDE said that he approve , ' of the Government measure, mainly because he hoped it would be a stepping-stone to further changes. He did not, he confessed, sec touch value upon the measure considered in itself. On the contrary, he thought that it was impossible for a Government to adopt anything like free-trade principles in a manner more likely to render those principles distasteful to the middle classes in this country than they had done in the new tariff. The present tariff would put the English artisan in a disadvan tageous position, whereas, by a more effectual carrying out of its principles, which must inevitably follow—( Hear, hear)-- he might have been benefited. One article, which was a very important element of manufacture, tallow , had never been men tioned by the Noble Lord, and on that he found the duty was still excessive. It was an article in which it was very desirable to establish a trade, as it gave mu. h employment to their ship ping. It was monstrous to tell the artisan, while his food was left at a high price, that he derived any benefit from the reduc tion of duty on raw material, while he was exposed to foreign competition. Everything that tended to introduce food into the country was of importance in the present season of distress. For this reason he objected to the rate of duty on cocoa ; much had been said of the reduction of the duty on coffee, but desirable as this article might be as a beverage, there was much more nourishment in cocoa; therefore, some attention to such articles as this in the tariff was most desirable, and he regretted that the sound principles laid down by his Noble Friend had not been more fully carried out. The duty on foreign cocoa was 6d. a lb., that on the produce of British Colonies was 2d. ; the duty was therefore prohibitive on foreign cocoa, and this was the great fault of the tariff, that it went out of its way to establish an oppressive scale of differential duties. He should, however, vote fur this Bill, as approving of the principles on which it was founded. It was also a different question as to how far the Government deserved the credit of having taken the initiative, and they had also been chargeable with soma in consistency for the obloquy they had thrown on the Report of the Import Duties' Cemrnittee, which they now cited as an authority. In conclusion he hoped her Majesty's Ministers would go on in the course they had begun, and notwithstanding the present Parliament was called a Parliament of land-holders, they would be found pursuing the path of commercial reform, a nd that next year he should fiad them prepared to' propose a just and extensive reduction of the sugar duties. The Earl of MOUNTCAS'IIEL vindicated his consistency on this question, stating that he shoUld honestly oppose the Government when he differed from them. He objected espe cially to the timber duties under the tariff, in which the prin ciple of protection to the colonies had been forgotten. The duty was lessened, but the advantage was given in too great a degree to the timber of the Baltic, and he had reason,to appre hend that many of the Canadian timber merchants would find great difficulty in maintaining their ground. They should re collect that their colonial timber was paid for in British manu factures, while the timber they imported from the Baltic would be of necessity paid for is gold. The greater employment of British shipping was also a consideration, and a reason why the differential duties ought to be in favour of the produce of their colonies. He had also an objection to the reduction of duty on cattle and pigs, which would reduce the importation of pigs from Ireland ; his pig was - the only thing on which the Irish peasant depenued for the payment of his rent, and his market would be destroyed if thee allowed bacon and cured pork t o b e b roug h t i n from America . Ireland depended entirely upon the produce of her agriculture for support, and if the price of the afericultural.produce were re dueed, she would be rendered incapable of consuming English manufactures, and this would increase the distress in the Eng lish manufacturing districts. Lord MONTEAGLE would vote in favour of the Bill, and with his Noble Friend; but it ever there was a speech eaten lated to show that the Bill was utterly worthless, it was the speech of his Noble Friend.—(Cheers.) If no good were to arise to the consumer, from the proposed alterations in the duty on cattle, the subject ought not to have been meddled with. The argument of the Noble Lord ought to have carried him much further. It ought to have carried him back to what he admitted was the oris!inal principle on which customs' duties ought o b, for the purposes of re venue, and of revenue only. He thought great disap pointment must arise to those who had been told selves. But though such was now the law, there were some of their Lordships who remembered that in 1793, and during the whole of the war, there was nu law pro hibiting the import of cattle, sheep, and pigs. He was aware that this was owing chiefly to the tact that this country was, at successive periods e engaged in hostilities with France, Belgium, Holland, the North of Germany and America ; but there were other considerations which might make it advisable to suspend the prohibi tion. lie thought it was desirable that the Government should provide for the contingency of the increase of population exceeding the increase of provisions. To maintain the prohibltion solely fir the purpose of giving a monopoly to the agricultural interest, would, he thought, be very short-sighted policy. He was sure, that if the proposed alteration in this portion of the tariff were duly considered, that even those who imagined that their interests would be injuriously affected by it would acknowledge that there was no foundation for their alarms.—(Hear, hear.) He was at a loss to understand from what part of the world the formidable invasion of bullocks was to come?—(Hear.) Not from France certainly. France was an importing country. The variation in the prices of of oxen in Frame, from 1820 to 1841 was most curious. In 1820, in the markets of Poissy and Paris, the price of oxen was N. 14s. 4d. each ; in 1821 it was 101. 13s. 7d.; in 1822, 111. 16s. 9d. ; in 1823, 11/. Ils. 2d. He would not weary their Lordships by going through all the inter mediate years, but in 1837 it was 141 Bs. 9d. ; in 1838, 151.35.2 d. ; in 1839, 151 13s. 7d. ; in 1840, 151 4s. ; and, in 1841, 191. 2s. 6d., being nearly double what it was in 1820. The Duke of RICHMOND—Were the cattle all of the same weight? The Earl of RIPON—They were all of the same weight. It was still more surprising when he considered the population of Paris, and the quantity of cattle con sumed. Before 1798 there were consumed in Paris 70,000 oxen, 18,000 cows, and 120,000 calves. He could not say what might have been the population of Paris at that period, certainly not so great as it had been subse quently. From 1812 to 1816 the .population of Paris was 547,000 souls. In the four years ending 1842 the population of Paris was 950,000 ; the consumption was 70,757 oxen, 19,824 cows, and only 79,000 calves. Now to what cause, except to the increase of price, could they attribute this diminution in the con sumption of meat in Paris ? Clearly to the fact that the production of cattle - in that country had not kept pace with the increase of the population. But not only could they not expect any extensive impor tation of cattle from France, but still more France was herself in perpetual want of imported cattle. Belgium was in much the same condition. They had heard much of the Flemish breed of cattle, but he believed there was no country in which the supply was less adequate to the demand than in Belgium. The fact was, that the Belgians imported largely from Holland and other countries. The first impression produced in Belgium, as well as in France, on hearing that our ports were to be opened for the im portation of foreign cattle, was one of alarm, because they felt that through the effect of competition with us, they should have to make their purchases at a higher rate. He believed that the impression had subsided, as the alarm in England had also subsided. The same ob servations he bad made with respect to France and Belgium would also apply to the greater part of Germany. Some portions of the German League imported cattle, and others did not, but on the whole the product of cattle in Germany did not keep pace with the increase of population ; and it appeared that in Poland, too, the supply was deficient, and that they imported the greater part of their cattle from the depths of Russia. The result of all these facts was, that if the cattle were to be largely imported into this country they should come in a great degree from the depths of the Ukraine ; but he believed it would be admitted that those cattle would be in a very poor condition on arriving in this country. There were but two spots from which a supply of good cattle could be expected, namely, Denmark and Holland. But those two countries were limited in size, and many parts of their surface were not suited to the rearing of cattle. no importation could be expected from them which would in any degree injure the graziers of this country. No doubt in times of scarcity the result of the compe tition would be to moderate prices in England, but the Government proposal could not in any way injuriously affect the British grazier in ordinary seasons. He would now say a word or two upon some of the items on which they proposed to make the reduction. He would not say a word upon the item of sugar, further than this, that he thought no alteration could be made in the duty on that commodity, without materially affecting the revenue, anti such a change might be. attended with the worst consequences. The Government had thought it wiser to confine themselves to the mass of small articles to which he had referred, than to apply themselves to those articles that would seriously affect the amount of the revenue. He believed that the Government would afford to commerce a great good by he extension and important revision they had made in the tariff. He believed the course they had taken to be the wise one. They had done enough, but not too much. Many per sons had stated to him, who had previously taken ob jections to the course the Government had pursued, that they were convinced that their opinions were erroneous, and that the plan adopted by the Government was the right one. He believed that the course pursued by the Government would be a great preventive to smuggling. In conclusion, he would only say that he felt convinced this measure would remove the clogs of commerce, and give a zest to the wheels of industry. He trusted, there fore, that their Lordships would allow the Bill to be read a second time. The Earl of STANHOPE, in offering his opposition to the motion, would venture to recommend Noble Lords who had financial measures to propose to avoid all men tion of figures, which were generally perplexing to themselves and tedious to the rest of the House. He knew that her Majesty's Ministers would beat him—(a laugh)--because, as had been said of Kings. although they were weak in argument, they were strong in legions.—(Laughter.) He contended that the effect of that part of the tariff which allowed the utmost free importation of cattle would be to deprive the farmer of the means of employing labourers, and to increase the evils produced by the Poor-laws, and the tamperings with the currency since 1822. The Right Hon. Baronet at the head of her Majesty's Government had acknow ledged that there was no employment of agricultural capital so unproductive as the fattening of lean cattle. Was not that a reason for protecting instead of ruining that branch of agricultural industry. (The Noble Earl proceeded with great minuteness and greatly to the amusement of their Lordships to analyse the items of the tariff respecting the importation of meat and cattle.) The distance from Hamburgh was little more than the distance from Aberdeen to London, and cattle could be brought from Hamburgh at as cheap a rate.' It might be said where is the supply to come from, the countries on the Continent are importing countries ? Why if they were importing . countries - it followed of necessity that there must be exporting countries Somewhere—(Hear, hear, hear) , —unless Noble Lords using this argument believed that there was a kind of terra incognita.— (Laughter.) This tariff was so inge niously contrived that there seemed to be no connection between the live animal and meat. There was as much difference in the tariff as though one was a mineral pro duction.--(Laughter.) They were told in another place that the breed of cattle was to be improved by some chemical process. This was a singular mode of improv ing the breed of cattle. Then it was said that this coun try was to be an exporting; country. Why was it not an exporting country now ? The only exportation that would take place would be the lean cattle to be fattened abroad. A Right Hon. Gentleman tried to prove, first. that the reduction in the duty would reduce the price of meat, and then he turned round and tried to prove that it would not reduce the protection to the breeder in this country. This was sitting on two stools, and he must make up his mind to one course, or he would fall to the ground. The same eminent individual, like the celebrated German juggler, endeavoured to prove ootnhetrhe that t e tilrendthitnhgatwtabsemt,hhiiitieg,. amidwas liasckh,eaarnedrs voted olith accordingly. H e cou ld apply the remark of the g reat William Pitt, i n s p ea king_ of Napoleon, when he said that nothi ng was too vas t for his ambition, or too insig nificant for his avarice. So with this tariff.—(Laughter.) With the r e d uc ti on u p o n onion-seed it was quite ,impos sible that th e p ro d uce r of onion - seed at home could compete with th e fo re i g n onion-seed. He next objected to the red ac ti on o f the ditty uponsuch woods a s lance wood. L,:,d other woods , which, p ec l i:l p. :; , their Lordships had never heard ; and he objected to it because be believed it would be productive HOUSE OF LORDS, July 5. Their Lordships met at Five o'Clock. ANATOMY 'ACT. • Lord STANIIOPE t;a►•e notice that on Thursday next he would present a petition respecting the Anatomy Act, to which he would call their Lordships' attention. RAILWAYS BILL. A Message from the Commons brought up the Rail ways Bill, which wul read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on Friday. EMPLOYMENT IN MINES. Lord BROUGHAM presented a petition from persons vnvloyed in mines in a part of Yorkshire, praying that Ow House would not assent to any enactment for regu- lating their employment without inquiry. CLSTO3IS' DUTIES ACTS—(THE TARIFF.) On the reading of the Order of the Day fur the second reading of the Customs Duties Acts, The Earl of RIPON said that from what had been stated by Noble Friends of his on the opposite side of the 'louse, and more especially by his Noble Friend on his loft (Lord Stanhope), he anticipated many objections to the alterations in the tariff proposed io the Bill which stood for third reading this evening ; hut he did not think, from the appearance of the House, that the objections would be very serioutly pressed, and certainly he thought that they , would not be adopted. But notwithstanding this anticipation, the measure in volved matters of considerable importance, both as regarded principle and detail, that their L allships might naturally expect that lie should ley before them the grounds on which her Ma jesty's Government were led to adopt so extensive a change in the customs' regulations of the country. This subject had from time to time attracted the atten tiOu of Parliament ; nor was it wonderful. For in the twenty-tive years of war which closed the last century, the necessities of the country had compelled the Govern ment to lay on duties on commodities of foreign production for purposes of revenue. These duties, • which were first laid on for fiscal purposes alone, created, in course of time, protected interests, which Parliament did not contemplate when it im posed the duties. On the return of peace, which altered the position of this country in respect to the rest of the world, the attention of Parliament was drawn (after the restoration of the currency in 1819) to • the state of the import duties. Two petitions of great importance were presented—one by the Noble Marquis opposite (the Marquis of Lansdowne), on whose motion a CoMmittee was appointed to inquire into the whole question of the import duties. That motion was •most cordially acceded to by the Government of Lord Liverpool, who, at the same time, stated that there was a difficulty in con- sequence of the interests that had grown up during the war. In a word, no one could doubt that the view of Lord Liverpool was, that as soon as the circumstances of the country . would allow, it I would be necessary to revert -to a more free and open system of fiscal regulation in respect to corn ! merce.—(llear, hear, hear.) That principle was admitted by every person on every side of the House as the rule by which the commercial policy of the country should be governed.—(llcar.) The pro ' • ;tress of the alteration had been slow, and perhaps more r t slow than was consistent with good policy. He was not one of those who thought so, for he was of .opinion that all such changes should be gradual, and ought not to be introduced in opposition to the general feelings, or, as some considered them, pre judices, of the people. Yet the principle did progress, , 1 and alterations were made in the tariff. A Committee was appointed by the other House, and whatever might be thought of the prepossessions of that Committee, and the interested motives of some who gave evidence before it, it was impossible to look in the tables which were appended to the Report of that Commit tee, without being convinced that it was ab Autely neces sary to revise the tariff.—(Hear, hear.) They had then to, consider the principle upon which they should attempt the revision of the tariff. This was a work of no small difficulty. Thelirst consideration was, what proportion' the existing duty bore to the average price of the article in bond.. It was quite clear that unless they did this they could not come to a jtist conclusion. One principle upon which they went was to put away all prohibi tions. Another consideration was relative to the articles necessary for our own manufactures, and the foreign manufactured articles, which would come into competi tion with our own. On all the articles of raw ma terial, with but few exceptions, the principle they adopted was to limit the duty within 5 per cent. on the value of the article, and as much below it as was. practicable. In the case of articles of peculiar manufacture, which were likely to come into competi tion with our own manufactures, such as thrown , silk, then it was proposed that the amount of duty should not exceed ten per cent. upon the value, and that on the manufactured articles themselves they laid it down as a general rule that the duty should be from 12 to 20 per cent. Mr. Huskisson, in the altera tion introduced by him laid the protective duty at 30 per cent. The duty ou cotton wool was 10 per cent., and on woollen stuff 15 per cent., which was not a prohibi tion, although it was a protection. They, therefore, began by reducing the duty on all articles necessary for the production of manufactures to the lowest possible rate. But the circumstances would not admit of a change. On the two articles so material to English manufacture, cotton wool and. woollen stuffs, the duty was retained. The reason no reduction had taken place in these articles was, that it would be at too great a cost to the revenue. In selecting the other duties for reduc tion, they had considered that the country would be more benefited by their reduction than if they had ab stained from that reduction, and reduced the duty on foreign wool and cotton wool. With respect to silk, a treaty had been negotiated between France and this country for the purpose of placing the two countries on a more satisfactory footing with regard to each other. Of course in that treaty the first article the French would expect a reduction upon would be silk. • That treaty, from circumstances into which he would not enter, was not brought to a satisfactory conclusion. These circum stances he deeply regretted, but he hoped that the day was not far distant when that treaty would be accom plished, for it would be most advantageous to both. The same remarks which he had made use of with regard to silks would apply to a variety of other articles. When it was his lot to propose, nearly twenty years ago, some nif xlitleation in our commercial tariff, which met with the general approbation of the House, he recommended, with regard to silk, that the same course should be adopted as was now proposed. He was firmly of opinion that ar rangements might be made of a commercial nature, be— tween this country and other countries, which would be of the greatest advantage to this country. There were a variety of other articles upon which their Lordships would find that considerable alterations were proposed by this tariff ; and there was one article which he might call an article of manufacture, which was of the utmost importance, to which, on account of its importance, he begged . briefly to call the attention of the House—that article was timber. He conceived that timber was an article in which every one was concerned that the price should be low ; it was an article in which every one was interested ; it formed alike a part in the palace of the trict'' too, in ship- Sovereign, and the cottag e of the laboure r ; it was em ployed in forming luxurio us comfort, and hi the imple ultnrdiesiti. ie . d l . ts H im e po s i h • should now beg t o call the attention of the Hou se to another 1 1:1 L i t' i ' l l d t i s ti ( g )f . c t o h t e dd ag n r t l ) 6 t be part of the tariff, which was the provisioning of ships. As the law at present stood, a vessel going on a foreign voyage paid no duty upon sugar and rum, which were to serve es ships' stores, to be consumed on the voyage ; but salt meat which left this country, and was equally used as ships' stores, and consumed by the crew, was not allowed to leave without paying duty, unless it was in tended to be transported to foreign countries, and it was required of the captain of a vessel who took out salt pro visions under this pretence that he should produce a certificate from the Consul of the foreign port to which the provisions had been disposed of. This mode of pro ceedin,,,,, led to a great deal of fraud, and it was con sidered necessary by the present Government to repeal that part of the Provisioning:law which required the certificate; and it was now proposed to allow all salt provisions to leave duty free. 'The next question to which he wished - to call their Lordships' attention was the question of provisions, and especially of cattle. He was eonvinced that the objections which were made to that alteration were entirely without foundation. As the. l aw s t oo d at present there was a positive prohibition; neither foreign meat nor cattle could be introduced' into this country even for the benefit oithe agriculturists them., that in consequence of the alterations in the tariff they would t Sir JAMES GRAHAM said it was his intentieS• obtain a full equivalent for the imposition of the Income-tax. !as he had befoee stated in answer to a similar - He - should like to know where the saving to the eonsumer was • gireetion, to brill; belbre the Honee a Bill antherising . ee• to come from. 'The whole reduction of duties effected by the • h „ i , mait , sty to tariff was 1,300,0001. How it was possible. under any Orem grnting of a grant a new el; ater to the College e: Physician-. It - was • viso his' intention to advise., the stances, that the loss of revenue on the one hand could he eqni new , and them, two charters would certainly be in operati°h relent to 3.300,000/., the estimated amount of the propel.) , before the , next meeting of Parliament. tax, he could not understand,—( Cheers.) With the exception charter to the College of Surgeons, of timber they had not touched upon any of the great articles Lord SAN )' T of consumption. He thought it would be better to employ I eN wished to know if peerej would be Y. their surplus revenue in such a manner as to increase the rre • given under these charters to grant degrees • venue rather than to sink it entirely. It was curious when the Sir J. GRAHAM said it was not intended that such • ~ ,e • duty on Canadian timber was reduced to nothing to hear the authority should he given, because that authority v;s wo L u o ld rd be .T m . I l d l Z. o lT i S n S t E he LL p Noble Lord complaining of the reduction of the duty un Baltic not wanted. timber. If there were no necessity fur any duty on timber for revenue, would the Noble Earl impose a duty on foreign timber ? re ' s v- e is n b t e c d •ha t r o ter k ? no7 The Err' of MOUNTCASHEL—Yes. Lord AIONTEAGLE—Then the Noble Earl would • Sir J. GRAHAM would be prepared to state to the -- House the details when he introduced the Bill. t. pose a duty on goad timber merely to force the people of England to use bad —(Cheers.) That was not the way mr. Vi ART would ask the Right Hon. Gentleman what change., in which colonies ought to be protected. The colonial whether the charter pr o posed w o uld exempt the insti timber trade was increasing, and had increased during the tion from the effect of th e M e di ca l R e form Bill, n ett last four years. It had been progressing. It was a great whether they would be exempt from the effects of th e mistake to imagine that protection was required for that Medical Reform Bill to be introduced next session ? trade. There was a great difference between reducing the Sir JAMES GRAHAM said he must give the sat" • duty on Canadian timber, and giving it away entirely. The answer as to the Noble Lord. He should move for leave late Mr. Deacon Hume stated that by a good regulation of the , to bring its the Bill, and then it would be his duty to timber trade a good million might be raised, without raising , the fate to the House what the precise provisions o f the price to the consumer. They were therefore throwing Bill were away a million lavishly, and leaving the raw material of two of , _ the most important manufactures burdened. Were it acting Mr. 0 CON N ELT, 'visaed to know if the charter we ll wisely to do this? They might have relieved wool and cotton. off et the CoLege t o Pltysiciatis in Ireland ? in the With regard to wool, orders wer e given to France to be executed Sir J. G neenam's ane , er was inaudible in consequence of the hedvy duty in this cruntry. On the ex t ent gallery. duties it gave away uselessly a largo amount of taxation which might have been applied to the relief of the suffering manu facturers. He alluded to the speeches which had been made elsewhere by the Minis . ers in defence of the tariff with the highest admiration, for it was impossible to lay down the doc trines of free trade in a mere unqualified manners and the appli cation of those prinetples to the fullest extent would be ulti mately asked for. He would not ahude to the Corn.laws fur ther than to observe that the tariff provided for the duties on every article except tea, grain, sugar, and molasses. Why did it not provide for the duties on corn ? Beevuse the prince ple of the Corn Bill was diametrically opposed to the principle of the tariff. Why was not sugar dealt with ? It must be dealt with at no distant titne, and must be dealt :sin' by making a considerable reduction of the duty on foreign sugar. ( Hear, hear.) He did not despair of seeing the Government bringing forward a Sugar Bill at no distant period.—(Hear, hear.) The origival tariff showed a most curious exhibition of discriminatory duties; there were 128 articles, which were not produced in our colonies in which dis criminatory duties had been imposed. What could he more absurd than the discriminatory duties which had been re teined—the deriminatory duty upon eggs for example? With regard to the duty upin metals and ores, he rejoiced to think that the measure he had introduced some time since had pre cluded this measure ot the Government. The coal duty as originally proposed would have annihilated - the trade, and even lessened as it was, he doubted the policy of imposing such a duty. If it were imposed for the purpose of employing foreign manufactures it would fail in its object. That was not the way to deal with foreign ma nufactures. With respect to tobacco. he objected to the at tempt to raise a new interest by placing a discriminatory duty upon East India tobacco. There was too much of fondness for a discriminatory duty in the Bill to make it a wise one—and it was not wise to open the field ot competition against the artisan, while at the same time it did not give to him a free trade in food. It was beginning legislation at the wrong end ; as. however, the measure was an advance to wards right principles he should vote in favour of it. Lord COLCHESTER supported the Bill merely as a classi fication of duties, and not as an approximation towards free trade. 'The discriminatory duties he considei ell the most valuable part of the Bill. With regard to the duty on Canadian lima r, he thought Canada had no right to complain. If the reduction of the ditty on copper ores would do no injury to Corn eall, he should rejoice to see it take place, as it would be of great be nefit to the shiptng interest. The Earl of WON replied. His Noble Friend hail not done justice to the proposed alteration in the timber duties. If there were any duties that required revision on account of their absurdity they were the timber duties—( Hear, hear) — and if they omitted to make the necessary alterations no one would be more severe upon them than his Noble Friend. The greater part of the timber imported from New Brunswick was in no respect inferior to the Baltic timber, and was much cheaper. He thought the value of 'the reduction of the timber duty to the consumer had been much undervalued. He thought that their first consideration was to upheld the colonies. They were connected with us by Wood—they were part of ourselves. No Bill imposing a tax on British manufactures could be passed without the Royal assent, and all Governors had received elecial orders never to give the Royal assent to any such Bill. He therefore thought they ought to give hem something in return. NEWCASTLE ELECTION. The SPEAKER informed the House that the reel" nizanees on the petition against the return of 3' 11. ' f,-;olquhoun were tnilbi.ctionable. ELECTION PROCEEDINGS. Mr. €. I OCI I RAN E rose to explain something which lie ly;:d sail the other evening whilst speaking on the su b : j:•c - . 01 the 3rLlport Election. lie !tad tetver said thfa he thought these matters should go before a Committee at all. The facts were these : when Mr. W:: burten presented his petition to the House, he (" h .. ; Cochrane) did beg that an early day might that he might .1 - tact- an opportunity of refuting' tho pk-tition, which he did. Then, when the Right 1 1 °'' , atrottet had agreed that that petition was to be referre,uol,l' to a Committee. and t h e question came to be wheth er ~ should go before Mr. Roebuck's or another Committeeq he (Mr. Cochrane) said, to save the time of the House,ill( he thought it would be preferable. that it should go fore idr. Roebuck's Committee, but he never t 1 3 .0 ( 1 say that it should be ref e rred to a Committee tiel4 all. He never did entertain the o pi n i o n that ot st7 .4ir of bribery and corr u pti on s h ou ld go before a Committ`,'',' , e'l he thought rather th a t th e ma tt e r should be fully , cussed in that House. He thought, too, after the avO il t of the Hon. Member for Finsbury.' that he had s, 11(1 , 1 t between 31,000/. and 40,000/. - at heading, he c oultl lll , l find much faith with him (Mr. Cochrane) if he a dmits" that he had been guilty of bribery and couipronlis (Cries of " Oh, oh,' and laughter.) One thß g ii ho would say, how e ver, which was this, that 1 ) appearing before the Committee, he (Mr. Coehr w ,;la should give up no documents whatever, and answer no questions but such as he thought tit. s congratulated the House upon one subject, and that ‘c,, 3 , the perfect harmony which resulted from that Comm it ' tee. The Hon. Member for Bath's kindness and cootie') were really quite astonishing ; and he thought the Member's character hitherto must have been very e% 11. 0 , ordinary, N V hen - Honourable Members felt it neee ss ' n ; to praise him so highly because he bad not 1 0 , 5 suited them.—(Hear, and a laugh.) The procee o v , of the Committee were now closed, at least the 11° .a Member for Bath had adjourned his C o mtnittee I Thursday, and lie announced Lis intention of conductil; it in future on a different system. What that sY SI OO would be, he (Mr. Cochrane) did not know. His ophlol.,s was that justice could never be obtained by unjust m e llc and that an illegal means was always an unjust one• begged to say that he should appear before the Cott:lie tee, but that he should only answer what questio ns thought kit. POOR-LAW BILL. float Captain PECHELL stated that reports were all over the country that it was the intention w, Government not to proceed with this Bill es it r e , stood. He wished to-know from the Right Hon. 13artn!". i the Secretary of State for the Home Departatt6; whether it was the intention of the Goverment to r, ceed ith the Bill as it now tood ? Sir w l JAMES GRAHAM said he had not heard 6 : reports to which the Hon. Member referred ; tr t ' t/' '' other reports, it was entirely unfounded. MESSAGE FROM THE LORDS. w ith Messengers from the Lords appeared at the tab le certain Bills from the House of Lords. COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY—ADJOURNE D DEBATE. Sir R. PEEL said he should propose that to-0,5 row the House shOuld resolve itself into a Corernitt e , e be Tr Supply, and that it should have precedence of the c e ) did Orders. He hoped that would answer the object 0 ' `a, lion. Member, as they could then proceed nab din a ' journed debate on his motion. n o Mr. WALLACE was perfectly satisfied. He 1 1 ' 1 ' a t individual wish on the subject, and the House mig ht ' - as it thotteht proper. LONDON BRIDGE APPROACHES BILL' ‘ . 6 ,5 On the motion of the Earl of LINCOLN this Bill postpoted till to-morrow. vi)) CHARITABLE PAWN OFFICES (IRELAJ)i f BILL. Mr. GREENE brought up the Report on this Bill. MINES AND COLLIERIES BILL. f o r Lord ASHLEY said, he hoped the Hou. Me 5.10,4) Bolton, who was the only person now in the way 01_?:00 Bill, would allow it to proceed. If it was allow•edv4lr over this night, he did not know when he might I>r' r. to bring it forward. He therefore earnestly and seOl i d put it to the Hon. Member whether he would be enough to allow the Bill to go through its last stn,„? 0 Mr. AINS WORTH was sorry he could notigr i e `:o the request of the Noble Lord. He had prepay n ot clause of which lie had given notice, and he • could r - let the Bill pass without moving it I ° I/ Mr. LAMBTON thought if the House egr et such a course the Bill might be proceeded with. dig' Lord HOWICK thought the Bill would be better cuss=ed non than at a late hour of the night. de' After some conversation Mr. AINSWORTH, in ference to the general feeling of the House, AVithdr e' t ' , iic objection, the third reading being a dropped order , ee l o f taken after the other Orders of the Day were di s p os • BRIBERY AT ELECTIONS BILL. , qe or Lord J. RUSSELL moved that the following'.oo: hers form the Select Committee on Bribery at Ele c , ti ;e eor Lord J. Russell, Sir R. Peel,Viscount Sandon, Mr. t'"-,005 General, Mr. Solicitor General for Ireland, Sir 'l,,';`rie't Wilde, Sir George Grey, Mr. Thesiger, Mr. vas,. Mr. Charles Wood, Mr. Thomas Dutteombe, l epti cattlay, Sir Robert Harry Inglis, Mr. Aglionll, Sir Thomas Fremantle.—Agreed to. COLONIAL PASSENGERS BILL. Or Lord STANLEY 'moved the third reading of the lonial Passengers Bill. 0 1 Mr. HAWES was surprised that the No ble l je should have moved the third reading of this Bi ll ' ° °ld had been promised by the Noble Lord that he s' have ample notice of his doing so. Lord STANLEY said the Bill had remain ed posed for six months, except by the Hon. 3rlein h , e , i t: la that opposition was only on one clause of the •1311eeer:r consequence of there not having been a House iajocr day, and having lost a day - at this advanced p e iep the session, it-was impossible he could defer it loPb eis Mr. HAWES coniplained that, notwithstan d il , promise, the Noble Lord had not given him no t l e p;b e . , was mistaken in supposing that he was the onlY„" s l ,', opposed to it ; there were several who object"' pToly clau. , .ce, which, moreover, was the very one th e Lord himself opposed last year. After some remarks from Mr. V. Smithy O'Connell, and Lord J. Russell, t ill tit Lord STANLEY postponed the third reading morrow (Wednesday). :BUILDINGS REGULATIONS Bait' v ote The Buildings Regulations (No. 2) Bill wet t f a Committee. TO ) MANCHESTER, BIRMINGHAM, AND 13 op ~e POLICE BILL. „, of til l Sir J. GRAHAM posponed the second reawniiiil, Manchester, Birmingham, and Bolton Police i Thursday. WO . 10/ DEAN FOREST ECCLESIASTICAL - of t On the motion for the further considerati° t Doan Forest Ecclesiastical Bill, o'o 3 Mr. HUME role and said that he though t her e present nas an improper time, when e t r fad s cl a deSciency of 2,500,0001. in the revenue, Pt .,. r epe to t, ing churches out of the public money, as w% - 4 -e4 in the measure be ore the House. lie c01 1 . 1 . ' be l t all motley derived from the Crown lands sh," u , pre 4 o pr.pr.ated to the public service ; and tn t ' ai octi i „, : , would be a vote of the public money nt e P e : 1 01 . if it were taken from the Customs or %ti e pr elloc' These were the grounds of his opposition. li the , It of against - this improper application of 01 . 0 10' 0 0 motley. He was not insensible to the' intr. 14tet5 providing public instruction, but he pro ws ! A ll Li ar applying to .one sect that which belonged and all classes. , The Hon. Member concluded ). a of , the following resolutions . :— , t he W e e d I) , "1. That the revenue from the Crown lanai in an derr ts pe Dean is part of the revenue of the Crown lands tr i n w e lling' her Majesty to the public exchequer of the county 1. orf and in consideration of the yearly sum of 3 - 4 • s ' e f o r he, r e t o ' granted by Parliament nut of the public revenn_ jesty's civil list, during her lifetime ; and that aW e lerft7 o 0 1 the revenue of her Majesty's Crownlands to "S vc r eve ille re' or for any other purpose, is a charAe on the P .a from the country equally as if the same memo. is pal opto venue of her Majesty's Excise or Customs. That the revenues of the Church of EI . Ig b o fo: i vo t, by the Report of the Ecclesiastical Cominissionfo,s, . toi, 7, e or [Souse, amounted to 3,811,507/. sterling, 1: o cl 3,&07,5011. net income, from lauds and titoc o pe r Easter offer:ngs and fees. .„ e 77, a rt d ot l ' b e e "3. That, by the Act 6 and 7 Wm. I v •? ',;,, r es an, ie t a quent Act, it was enccted, that various 51?"_auctiori.,: and offices in the Church should be abolished, anti re co w ~ R ol shou",,etv Lord MONTEAGLE explained. He had not argued that the timber duties should btt continued; on the contrary, he wished all monopoly abolished. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the House divided. That the Bill , be read a second time : Contents Non-contents Majority in favour of the second readatz —55 The House then adjourned at Half-past Ten o'Clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS, July 5. The SPEAKER took the Chair at lonr &Clock. The Liverpod :Ind Manchester Railway Bill was read a third time and pas,ed. ATHLONE ELECTION. The SPEAKER int.mned the House that the recog nizances on the netition against the return for Athlone, of 5001. each, were unobjectionable. CoIoneI•CONOLLY preiontect a lae:ition from a place in Ireland, against time system of National Education in Ireland. • Mr. ORD presented a petition agaitist. the New Poor law Bill. BIR,IIDIGHAM POLJCE. Mr. MU N TYp - reLnivd a petition from the Mayor, Aldermen, and. Burgesses of the borough of Birmingham, against the Manchester. Birmingham, and Bolton Police Amendment Bill. NATIONAL EDUCATION IN IRELAND. Lord BERNARD presented a petition from Kilkenny against the present system of National Education in Ireland. POOR-LAWS. , • - - Sir CHARLES DOUGLAS presented a petition from the Board of Guardians of the Warwick Union, against certain clauses of the new Poor law Bill. CATHOLIC GRIEVANCES. Mr. T. DLiCONIBE presented a petition from the Roman Catholics of the metropolis on the subject . of Catholic grievances. The Hon: Member presented also a petition from Manchester, complaining of distress. THE QUEEN'S PRISONS. Lord ASHLEY presented petitions from debtors in the Queen's, Fleet, and Marshalsea prisons against the Queen's Prison Act. THE DEATH IN YORK CASTLE. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE presented a petition from a place in Yorkshire, praying for inquiry into the causes of the death of Samuel Holhery. in York Castle. HARDSHIPS OF THE SEA SERVICE. __ Captain PEC HELL presented a petition from the wife of a naval officer, who fell into a state of insanity in con sequence of the hardships which he endured in the ser vice of his country at sea. The petitioner complained that a portion of her husband's half-pay, greater than the actual expense of his maintenance in Haslar Lunatic Asylum, had been deducted, and she prayed .that the House would address the Crown to grant her an allowanco, to compensate her for the loss which her large family of young children had suffered by the deduction. On the motion of the Hon. and Gallant - NLnriber, the petition was ordered to be printed with the Votes. NE WC AS I'LE. UNDER-LYME. _ Lord G. SOMERSET brought up the Report of the Committee on Election Petitions, which stated that Tuesday, the 19th of July, was appointed for considering. the petition against the return for the borough of Ne►+- castle-under-Lyme. OATHS. Dr. BOWRING prescnied — a petition against the practice of making oath, and in favour of substituting an affirmation. METROPOLITAN BRIDGES. Mr. LEADER presented a petition for abolishing the toll on the metropolitan bridges ; also another petition praying for investigation into the causes of the present distress. NOTICES OF MOTION. Mr. J. O'CONNELL gave notice that when the Irish Stamp Act was brought oti, he would move as an amend ment, that it is inexpedient to increase the stamp duty in Ireland. IRISH FISHERIES. Col. CONOLLY gave notice that when the Irish Fisheries Bill was considered he should move an addi tional clause. MINES AND COLLIERIES. Mr. AINSWORTH gave notice that on clause No. 3 of the Mines and Collieries Bill being considered, he should move an amendment, defining the age and number of hours which should be fixed for the employment of children in mines. ' Mr. HUME moved for some return, in continuation of a former return ordered by the House, the terms of which did not reach the galler v. THE DUNDAS AFFAIR. Lord WORSLEY rose and said—Mr. Speaker, I wish to ask the Right lion. the Secretary-at-War, whether the report so generally circulated, as to the lion. Col. Henry Dundas having used language disrespecrul to her Majesty, has attracted the notice of the official authorities, and whether an inquiry has been made as to the truth. of that report.- I - should be happy if I can ascertain that such is not the case ; but if lam informed that it is so, I should like to know whether the official autho rities have in any way marked their displeasure. Sir H. HARUINGE said, in answer to the question put by the Noble Lord, I have to state that Colonel the lion. Henry Dundas was requested by the Commander in -Chief, immediately on the circumstances re ferred to by the Noble Lord being known, to furnish such explanation' as he had to offer. Having given that explanation, the Commander-in- Chief thought that Colonel the Hon. Henry Dundas had railed to absolve himself from the grave offence which had been imputed to him of having spoken disre spectfully of her Majesty; and under those circumstances the General CommandUrg-in-Chief felt it to be his duty to submit to her Majesty that Colonel the Hon. Henry salaries of some of the clergy made as vacs- ~e , .. ._ . , o e- Dundas he dismissed from his office of Queen's Aide-de- that the revenues of such suppressed sinecure office s ' the 07_ 0 0 Camp ; and further, that Colonel the Hon. Henry Dun- a fund, to be applied by the said Commissioners to port ' ft' CP r das be removed from the commuud o f th e 83d Regiment tation of small livings, and to such other Git u cb „c p b ob s re and placed on half-pay.—(Loud cheers.) Her Majesty's stated in that Report. 3 a the ~ t he , , t/ , Government entirely concur in that measure, and her .' 4. That, besides these large revenues t out 0 5 , 6 76 Pa Majesty hasibeen pleased to signify her approval of the plied to Church purpo-es, there has beene patio of ,reva,4,,, recommendation of the General 6,mmanding-in-Chief. revenue of the United Kingdom th ~.....„,,,,,d,! we'll - t be —(Cheers.) That divisi,. a has been communicated to sterling for the Established Crouches in d .. - - 8 7 0 hc ,to ies f o r eji , Colonttl Dundes.—(Cheers.) Scotland, between the years 1801 an ' r, itish —" l°l' ,, an a ae , COLLEGES OF .PHYSICIANS AND SURGEONS. besides many large payments •in the 13r ~a ce be n c barr suPport of the Church • and all these , utn i b l i c h is 1 ,/ , e a, Lord JOHN RUSSELL wished to ask the Righthati t " j of Hon. Baronet, Secretary for the Home Department, if ti al to the National Debt, the interest Of vi abie on the pub is revenue. r ase , tot he intended to introduce a Bill in the course of the pre- " 5 - That it appears by the Bill beforeltily 1 -' the $ ~, of that i „iore'",. al sent session, with respect to the College of Physicians 6 Dean Forest Eecl.esiastical Districts _B o ; ,_ cooton,s tol-0, and the College of surgeons ? He wished to know 1 2,..200/. has been already paid by the L n r ary graof Not, the whether the Right Hon. Gentleman intended to in- , her Majesty's Treasury, from I' the of chapk ai . e is T ~, troduce a Mli with r.,p, et to the clinrer of the endowniont of the elere) man or , _ of the . e i .' !;,.' ...' these two c,,;!•;•;;..._ s • ‘ . .. :. .. !..;; . : : ~.i ,-,,y, e nay. An i I tha , thr , e of the e leigytutli, „ilia -: ~5 . (,4:.,,,.. 0 „. .. . .. . c''artcr ,,, , if it w. 4., .. ;,...,..: ; ;.7 Jlc2 I . .::,:. .1, ,,, „ u-f---;-„.c - 1 2-, ,, '-'..,-, ' l ' . i._,'"'-',-*, ,, ( 4 - I . l‘ i . .37., " : oo , ) , i c ? c 7, l ;as ' l ic _l o l ) ,ld eCl DY Baronet that the Bill should come into operation before 1 severally or Ile/. iiis. tin., 0. , b _ t h e 1. - -- to our "6. That there were, as stated by cura Parliament met again ?* • - - ' ' 1 missioners in their Report in 18351 si-b1