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IMPEItIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LOADS, May 6. Their Lordships met at the usual hour. A Message from the House of Commons brought up the Turnpike Roads Ireland) Bill, the Exchequer Bills (9,500,000/.) Bill, the Punishment of Death Bill, the Victoria Park Bill, the Dublin Police Bill, the Kensington and Knightsbridge Openings Bill, the Equitable Gas Company Bill, the South wark Improvement Bill, the Stanhope and Tyne Railway Bill, the Greenwch.Harbour Bill, and several other private Bills. NATIONAL EDUCATION. The Earl of WICKLOW presented a petition from a parish in the county of Wicklow, in favour of the Church Education Society. CATHOLIC GRIEVANCES. Lord CAMOYS presented petitions complaining of the grievances to which Catholics are stthjected,.in prisons, in mili tary service, and in Union - houses , from the following places :- 13ungay, in Suffolk, Staffordshire, Durham, Warwick, Lan caster, Norfolk, and Chepstow. EMPLOYMENT OF CHILDREN IN COLLIERIES. The Bishop of NORWICH presented five petitions from several mining districts, complaining of the employment of children, and especially of females, in mines. He stated on the authority of the Report of the Commissioners, that the female children were exposed not only to the most painful toil, but to the most degrading profligacy from infancy to womanhood, and that operatives in other branilies of labour will not marry the women brought up in the mines. Lord FITZWILLIAM agreed that it would be impossible to exaggerate the evils of which the petitioners complained. But conaidering the danger of interfering with any of their fellow subjects, as to the way in which they might choose to employ . their labour, if the House should think it necessary to legislate in this case, it was highly important, before they did so, carefully to consider the facts set forth in the Report to which the Right Rev. Prelate had referred. They should also consi der whether there was not equal degradation and depravity in the employment of females in other departments of labour. He thought, however, that there were matters complained of in the petition which it came within the province of legislation to for bid. But he was certain that those practices did not prevail generally in all the mining districts of England. He could even give his own evidence that they did not generaly prevail in the districts from which the petition came. If any one by chance should read the speech of the Right Ils•. Prelate, he would suppose that in the generality of collieries the seams were so thin as to make it necessary for them to work in place* not more than 18 or 20 inches in height. Now that was by no means the case in the generality of mines in this country from whence coals were extracted ; but if their Lordships wished to protect all children from what might be considered beyond their powers, they should go much farther than legislating upon the subject of collieries. He did hope before their Lord ships proceeded to legislate upon the employment of children in this eine branch of industry, that they would take a compre hensive view of the employment in every branch of trade. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said he thought it ra ther strange that the Right Rev. Prelate should have pro ceeded to this subject without giving any notice to the House that he meant to do so. He rose to protest on the part of the coalowners in the north of England, more especially those on the Tyne and Wear, against that part of the Right Rev. Pre late's assertion, which stated that females and children were chained to waggons ; he did rise to protest against that on the part of the owners of collieries in the north. The Right Rev. Prelate had presented petitions from the interior of England ; what the state of things might be there he (the Marquis of Lendonderry ) did not know ; but there, he was sure, women never had been chained in the north.—( Hear, hear.) The Bishop of NORWICH explained that he had not re ferred at all to the collieries in the north ; he only spoke of those whence his petitions came; and with regard to the chains he must say that he spoke upon the authority of the persons who gave him the petitions. This Marquis of LONDONDERRY expressed his satisfac faction at the explanation of the Right Rev. Prelate. The Marquis of NORMANBY said that it would be full time for their Lordships hereafter to determine whether or no they would undertake to legislate on the subject ; but he thought that some good might be done by an exposure of the abuses. Earl FITZWILLIAM said that as it might happen that the Reverend Prelate's speech would be read out of that House, he thought it right to explain with regard to the chains to which the Right Rev Prelate had referred. Now these females were not chained. If they were so, they could not work. The fact was that the chains were fastened to the wag gons, and by means of them the females drew them along; that was the whole and sole use that was made of the chains. ( Hear, hear.) What sense was there in restricting the in quiries to manufactures? Why not extend it to agriculture A Piss:as-That is ahealthy employment. Lord FITZ WILLIAM was not quite sure of that. He believed that the boy who was employed in a mi ne w ith hi s father, rteuiving wages enough to give him a bellyful], was in abetter condition for the maintenance of his health than the boy whip worked with his father in the fields, having 7s. or Bs. a week for the maintenance of a family of seven or eight. The Bishop of NORWICH explained. He said that the girls, when let down into the mine, were chained to the ma chine in which the coals were te be drawn out. The Earl of WICKLOW would be very glad if the in quiry were extended to agriculture; and it would be seen how superior was the condition of children in that department of la bour. He then presented a petition from Sittingbosrne, in Kent,to the same effect as the petitions presented by the Bishop of Norwich. Earl FITZWILLI AM wondered what the agricultural la bourers of Kent could know of the state of the miners of the north. He had seen much of both the agricultural and mann• factoring people, and he was convinced that there was not the s'ightest superiority of morals amongst the agricultural, above the manufacturing population. In some respects, especially with regard to their children, the advantage was on the side of the manufacturers, especially the colliers.—( Hear, hear.) The Marquis of NORMANBY said, if there had been any erreneons opinions on the subject of the childrea employed in mines and factories, the late Government had taken the best course for removing them, by issuing the Commission. The Bishop of LONDON thought that the people of Sit 105gbourne. who were able to read, were as well able to judge or the great evils which attended on the pre Vent factory sys tem ; and he was surprised to hear the Noble Lord say that the condition of the children in factories and mines, was not inl'onior to that of the children employed in agriculture. Feel ing strongly as he did on the subject of the cruelty to children, he 'viol(' nut Se led awaylfy the stivement of the Noble Earl, and he must believe that the condition of the children in the agricultural districts was, by many degrees, better than that of those iu the manufacturing districts. Earl FIT Z WILLIANI said, that if the moral and spiritual condition of the children in these collieries were worse than that of children employed in agriculture, it was because the former children had not the adva,tages which the others poi- Eessed. If they both had the same advantages, he believed their conditions would be equal. He strongly denied that there was anything in agricultural employment which could of itself 14reatho a spirit of purity through those engaged in it, any more I hari there was in manufacturing employment. After a few words from the Bishop of LoNnox and the Earl of WINCHELSEA, the petition was laid upon the table. QUEEN'S PRISON BILL. This Bill was read a third time and passed. PARISH PROPERTY BILL. The Howe then went into Committee, and the Bill fur regu lating the sale of parish properly passed through. SOAP DUTIES' BILL. The House then resumed, and this Bill was read a third time and passed LUNACY BILL. Lord COTTENHAM said, that as the Lunacy Bill, the Bankruptcy Bill, and the County Courts Bill, were ap pointed for Committee on Monday, he thought it would be better if their Lordships would postpone the Lunacy Bill for a short time. The LORD CHANCELLOR said, he thought it right to state, that the other night his Noble Friend beside him (Lord Campbell.) pressed him to move forward these Bills, more par ticularly the Lunacy Bill, but at the request of the Noble Lord (Cottenham) he had consented to delay them till Monday Lord CAMPBELL said, that the Noble and Learned Lord entirely misapprehended him It was with regard to the Looney and Bankruptcy Bills he was anxious to know what were the Learned Lord's intentions. _ _ _ Lord BROUGHA3I said, he had expressed his wish that the Local Courts Bill should be proceeded with in preference to the other two. The LORD CHANCELLOR said, that he was most anxious to proceed with that Bill, but he wished the fullest in termation to be before the House. CORN- L A WS. Earl FiTzWILLIAM presented a petition from Northum berland against the Corn and Provision-laws. ELECTION COMMITTEES (COMMISSION). Lord BROUGHAM said he wished to call the attention of the House to a subject of great importance. It appeared from the proceedings of the other House, according to the Votes, that the time had at length arrived when it was his bounden duty to bring the great subject before their Lordships, of which he had last year given notice, and to redeem the pledge which he had then given. The proceedings to which he had alluded were marked with the most corrupt, illegal, and unconstitu tional practices. He found that it would be vain in the present state of things to move for a Committee of Inquiry, as he had at first intended, without first taking means to ensure the fullest protection and indemnity to all who might be required to give evidence. He should therefore, with their Lordships' consent, bring in a Bill for the purpose of giving that protec tion and indemnity to all persona who should be required to give evidence before a Committee of their Lordships, or any other tribunal appointed to inquire into proceedings connected with the character of, or in relation to, the other House of Par liament. On the second reading of the Bill he should go more fully into the subject. The Noble and Learned Lord then brought in the Bill, which, as usual, was read a first time pro forma. RoLmoarnd Catholics Dpresented several petitions from the Hammersmith, Tamwerth, and variou s other parts of England, complaining of a number of grievances which pressed peculiarly u t v l on them, and praying that means might be taken to remedy u es b e l. grievances. His Lordship said, that it had appeared in p ttl u e r i o i se of papers, that 11,0001. annually had been voted for the and navyreligious instruction to those thi.. in the service of the arm yll,oool. it was stated that 7,0001. was appropriated ' to the "f l he religious instruc tion of Roman Catholics. The univer ' sa t atement of these petitioners was, that the sum appropriated t sf. ) Roman Catholic instruction was only oo/. LOCAL RATES. Earl FITZ WILL lAM presented a petition, praying that ttait whole of the lecal ra tes mi g ht he levied in one r a t e , i nstead of in three or four distinct r ates, such as Highway, Watchi n r., &c., al at present. EDUCATION OF CATHOLICS. Lord CLIFFORD, of Chudley, presented several petitions complaining of the general want of religious instruction, and advice smongst the Roman Catholics. On the question that the House do now adjourn, The Marquis of NORMANB Y said he had waited to the last moment, in hope that the Noble Marcuis opposite (London derry) would have taken an opportunity to retract the unwar rantable accusations which he hat made on a former night against the Nlagistrates of Sunder:and, after he had received a . ful refutation of those accusations. He (the Marqu i s of Normanby) would, on Monday, call the attention of the House tothe char g e s ma d e Ity the Soblit Marquis opposite, that cer tain Magistra es o f S un d er l a nd had retuned licenses on part grounds. The Nlaripi/s of LONDONDERRY was ready to prove the truth of all th at h e liad said, if the House thought, proper. But as the ',gird-Lieuten an t o f th e coun ty, and a Peer of Parliament, he would' not answ er t h e appcir i of the Ma) or and six Whig Magistrates of the borough of Sunderland. If the Noble :liar “pposite ( Normanbv) wi,lied to bring the subject before the House again, he (Gird Londonderry) would feel it his ditty to go into the whole cleta , ls. But he would not answer the application made to him by the six Whig Magistrates, who took advantage, after the Cons,;rvative Magistrates had left the bench, to pass resolutions, moved by a Quaker, to contradict what he had sa'd in his place in the House of Lords. Lord WHARNCLIFFE suggested that the matter should rest where it was, as notice had been given by the Noble Mar quis (Normanby) that he would bring the subject before the House by a question to his Noble Friend (the Marquis of Lon dondery),_ on Monday. The Marquis of IN 0 RNIANBY could not after what had fallen from the Marquis of Londonderry, he would not—allow forty-eight hours to pass ever without letting the House know w h e t were the real fasts of the case. The Earl of lIADDING'f UN and Lord WHARNCLIFFE spoke to order. contenting himself with saying that those gentlemen denied in the strongest terms the accusations made against them, would postpone any further remark until Monday, beyond expresssing again his surprise that when any Noble Member of that House had reeeived evi dence proving that he had made ungrounded accusations, that Noble Lord did not take the earliest possible opportunity of re tracting them. The Duke of WELLINGTON said that if his Noble Friend (the Marquis of Londonderry) had done what the Noble Mar quis opposite considered it ungenerous not to have done, he would have taken a very disorderly course. It would have been all very well, if the Noble Marquis opposite had given his Noble Friend the opportunity, by asking whether he had received any communication, such or such ; but it would have been alto gether disorderly for his Noble Friend to have stood up in the first place, and told the House what letters had been written as to what he had said in his place as a Peer of that House.— (Hear, hear.) He thought the matter had better be left as it was until Monday. The Marquis of NORMANBY said that he never called upon the Noble Marquis to deny the allegations which he had made; but the fact was, that those gentlemen placed a docu ment in his hand relative to these allegations, and he merely wished to give the Noble Marquis an opportunity to explain. The Marquis of LONDONDERRY rose amid cries of " Order." He said that he was quite willing to enter into an explanation now, if that were the pleasure of the House ; or if the House preferred it he would adjourn it till Monday ; but he was quite ready to answer the allegations of those gentlemen. Earl FITZWILLIAM said he would really suggest that some effective means should be taken to preserve order in the House.—( Hear.) Lord REDESDA LE said that he was not a very old Mem ber of that House, but he really thought that they were a great deal mere disorderly now than they were when he entered it.— ( Laughter.) He certainly thought it proper that whenever Peers were called to order they should submit to it, instead of persevering in disorder as they did now.—( Hear.) TURNPIKE TRUSTS BILL. This Bill was read a third time and passed. Several other Bills were then advanced a stage, and their Lordships Adjourned at a Quarter-past Sevea o'Clock till Monday. HOUSE OF COMMONS, May fi. The SPEAKER took the Chair at Four o'Clock. SOUTHAMPTON ELECTION. Mr. REDINGTON brought up the Roport from the Committee appointed to try the merits of the petition against the return for the borough of Southampton. The resolution the Committee had agreed to was, that Viscount Bruce (now Lord Elgin) and C. C. Martyn, Esq., were not duly elected, and that the election fur the borough of Southampton was void. That the said Viscount Bruce, and C. C. Martyn, had by their agents been guilty of bribery, but that there was no proof that tlie said Viscount Bruce, and C. C. Martyn, Esq., were cognisant of such bribery. Tho Committee also reported that very extensive treating prevailed during the election, and that the amount of money expended in the contest, 5,0001., having far exceeded the ordinary and legal charges of an election, it nas a matter which desorved the serious consideration of the House. SECOND READINGS. The Boston Harbour Bill (No. 2), and the Birmingham and Liverpool Junction Railway Bill (No. 2), wore read a second time. Colonel SIBTHORP presenteda petition against the Bos ton Harbour Bill (No. 3.) NORTH OF ENGLAND RAILWAY. The Great North of England Railway Bill was read a third time and passed. CATHOLIC GRIEVANCES. Mr. M. J. O'CONNELL presented a petition from the Ca tholics of Warwickshire, complaining of the grievances to which Catholics are subjected, particularly in military service, or in prisons. THE DUBLIN FREEMEN. Mr. GREGORY presented a petition from the Conserva tives of Dublin, praying that some measure might be adopted to facilitate the admission of freemen, and to insure the attend ance of the Lord flavor when required. Mr. O'CONNELL said, as the petition referred personally to himself, he might be allowed the liberty of saying a feW words respecting it. Since he had been Lord Mayor, he had admitted 1,400 freemen; but it was not stated that he had admitted one, except on the proper and legal oath—the late Lord Mayor admitted 600 in one evening. The petitioners did not allege that he had not applied the same rule to all parties, or that he had admitted a single person, or rejected a single per son improperly. He, therefore, considered the petition a kind of public declaration in his behalf. Mr. GREGORY explained that the petition did not com plain of the number admitted on either side, or of the right to admit them ; it merely prayed for seine measure to facilitate their admission, and ensure the attendance of the Lord Mayor. Mr. O'CON NELL said he had omitted one day from illness, but had any of these parties expressed their desire for his at tendance he would have left London for that purpose. islr. HARDY presented a petition from 4,500 inhabitants of Bradford, complaining of the excessive labour to which tho operatives were subjected, with inadequate wages, at some parts of the year, and of total want of employment at others ; and praying that the House would agree to a Bill for regulating the hours of labour. CORN-LAWS. Mr. VILLIERS presented several petitions from operative-, in Staffordshire and Cheshire, praying for the removal of all restrictions upon the importation of food. Mr. FITZSTEPHEN FRENCH presented several peti• tions from millers in the county of Tipperary, and other parts of Ireland, against the importation of foreign flour. SOUTHAMPTON ELECTION. Mr. H. BARING moved that a new writ be issued for this borough of Southampton, the late election from that bo rough having been declared void by a Committee of the House. Mr. WARD said that after the Report which the House had jest heard at the bar—(Hear, hear)—which made grave alle gations not merely against the former Members, but against a large portion of the constituency, insomuch that an extensive system of treating and bribery was said to be locally organised ; he thought that no step ought to be taken until the House had the evidence before it.—( Hear, hear. ) The Chairman had moved that the evidence be re ported, and until it was reported they ought not to proceed further in respect to this election, especially when it was recol lected that the Committee had three several times to apply to the House during the inquiry. If there were any doubt as to the propriety of waiting for the evidence, he would move that the Report be read by the Clerk at the t able, and he would subsequently move that the motion for a new writ be adjourned. After a few words from Mr. Baring and Mr. H. [finite, who seconded Mr. Ward's motion, the Report was read by the Clerk. Mr. STANLEY said that the Hon. Gentleman who mane the motion, having alluded to what passed at the Committee, he begged to say that he made a motion before the Corn mittece that the writ be suspended till the evidence was laid before the House, but he was not supported. Mr. C. W. WYNN was rising to address the House, when Mr. BERNAL moved that the Hon. Baronet be allowed to address the House from his seat.--( Hear, hear.) Mr. C. W. WYNN said, that as long as he was able to ad dress the House on his legs, he thought it was better that he should conform to the usual course. With regard to the motion before the House, he thought it better that it should be adjourned.—( Hear.) He hoped the Hon. Member would have no objection to adjourn the debate on the issuing of a new writ till Monday next. Mr. WARD said that he had no objection. He should therefore move that it be adjourned till Monday next. Mr. BARING said the most convenient course for him to adopt would be to withdraw his motion altogether. Mr. H. HINDE only wished the House should not act in igno rance of the circumstances. The evidence before the Committee showed that a large sum of money was spent by local associations before the testing of the writ; and the difficulty was, that if the issuing of the writ were suspended, an opportunity would be afforded of practising that very system of treating which it was their object to put an end to. The motion was then withdrawn. NEW WINDSOR ELECTION PETITION. The SPEAKER informed the House that he had received notice, on the part of the petitioners against the return for the borough of New Windsor, that it was not their intention to prosecute the petition. Lord F. EGERTON presented a petition (we did not hear from what place) praying fur au alteration in the Turnpike Act. Mr. GORDON presented a petition praying for au alters. tion in the Poor-laws. Mr. TURNER presented a petition from Cornwall (as we understood) complaining of the proposed alteration in the duties on foreign copper ore. Mr. AGLIUNBY presented a petition from Cockermouth, against the practice of administering oaths. Mr. V. SMITH brought up the Report of the National Breakwater Committee. Mr. 'F. DUNCOMBE presented petitions from Bromley and Sheffield in favour of a repeal of the Poor-law Amendment Bill. Lord WORSLEY presented a petition from a place in Gloucestershire against the Income-tax. Mr. O'CONNELL gave notice that he should take an early opportunity of calling the attention of the House to the state of the administration of justice in Ireland. ELECTION PETITIONS. Mr. ROEBUCK then rose, and said, seeing both the Hon. Members for Reading in their places, I rise for the purpose of putting the question of which I have given notice; but before I do so, Sir, perhaps the House will allow me to say that in taking this extraordinary course—extraordinary I know it to be—l am, I think, justified in so doing, by some very extraordinary circumstances. It has been stated very generally, that with respect to the election for the town of Reading, that on the merits of the petition being tried by the Committee appointed for that purpose, there I was a compromise agreed to, and it is stated that to that cern promise both the Hon. Members now sitting were parties. Thinking that they would he most anxious to be relieved from the imputation connected with such a transaction, and desirous of maintaining the purity of this House, I thought it my duty, as it bad come to my knowledge, to put distinctly to each Member the question which I have put upon the notice paper of the House. I have heard, and have reason to believe, that the Election Committee appointed to try the question of the Reading Election had their business entirely put an end to by a compromise made on the part of one or both of the Hon. Members, now the sitting Members for Reading, and that a bond has been entered into by some parties, with their knowledge, if not in their name, that one or ether of them, though declared by the Committee to be the sitting Member for Reading, should resign his seat by the accept ance of the Stewardship of the Chiltern Hundreds, thereby defeating entirely the determination of the Com mittee, and, as it certainly appears to me, thereby violating the privileges of this House. Therefore, Sir, with perfect re spect for both these Hon. Members, I now proceed to put the question to Lord Chelsea, whether he is cognisant of, or party to, any arrangement by which it has been agreed that one or other of those Hon. Members is to accept the Stewardship of the Chiltern Hundreds, in order to vacate the seat, notwithstandin g th at he has been declared duly elected by the Select Committee appointed to try the merits of the petition presented to this House against his retarn ? has Lord CHELSEA sa id, as t h e Hon. and Learned Gent l eman done me the honour to put my name first on the list of those included i n t h e not i ce v hich he has given for this evening. , I am perfectly p repare d to state to him how far I feel it con sistent with the duty which I owe to myself to gratify his searching spirit of investigation, holding as I do a very strong opinion that Hon. Alemb:Ts may justly consider that matters of this kind are strictly private, and ought not to be in truded upon the House. 1 think myself bound to decline most peremptorily and most unequiv oca ll y to g i ve any answer l whatever to the question which the Honourable and Learned Member has put to me.—( Cheers from the Ministerial benches.) At the same time I trust the Hon. and Learned Member will allow me to regret that he should have so far departed from the deep and sound discretion which characterises his proceed. , ings in this House as to indulge in a practice which, were the circumstances reversed, if I were the catechiser and he the catechumen, he would see great reason to withstand and condemn. Mr.IROEBUCK— I feel perfectly satisfied with that answer. I proceed in the same respectful manner to put the same ques tion to the Hon. Gentleman, the colleague of the Noble Lord. Mr. C. RUSSELL denied that the Hon. Member for Bath had any right to ask him is hat his intentions and purposes were respecting his retaining his seat in Parliament. He (Mr R.) held that seat by a right as perfect as that by which the Hon. and Learned Gentleman held his—by the returns of a very large majority of a very numerous constituency. That right had been affirmed by the decision of the only tribunal which by law was competent to conside r it.—(Hear.) If any doubt existed as to the mode in which the petition against his return was withdrawn, it was for the Committee which formed that tribunal, and not for the Hon. and Learned Member for Bath, ' to complain, consider, and adjudicate upon that measure.— ( Hear, hear. ) If Hon. Members of that House were to be thus catechised respecting their seats, what Honourable Member would be free from being harassed during the whole duration of a Parliament ?—( hear, hear.) If the H u , e should sanction such questions being put to Hon. Mem bers, they would make a stride, and a long stride, towards the resumption of the worst and most improper jurisdiction, which, after long experience, had been deliberately and wisely re— nounced, and which, if revived, the seats of Honourable Members would again become the sport of party contention, personal envy, and inquisitiveness. In conformity with the prin ciple which had been adopted by that House he (Mr. R. ) declined answering the question put him by the Hon. and Learned Member for Bath—(Ministerial cheers)—and he protested against that House drawing any inference whatever trom his refusal to answer the question which had been now put to him, and which the Honourable and Learned Member had no right, either personal or Parliamentary, to put to him ( Mr. R.). The Hon. and Learned Member for Bath might draw whatever inference he pleased in silence, a.i.d his inference might be about as pertinent as his question. Mr. ROEBUCK—I proceed in the examination I have pro posed, believing, that if I hear aught that would be detrimental to any Member of this House, 1 will do that which is most advantageous to the House itself. I shall now proceed to put a question to the Hon. and Gallant Member for Penryn. —( Hear.) 1, therefore, as him if be was a party to, or cognizant of, any agreement by which he, in the month of July n e xt, o r anywhere about that time, is to accept the Chiltern Hundreds, although he had been declared sleeted by the Committee ap pointed to try the validity of his election, it being notorious that acts of bribery were proved at that election, and I wish to know if lie is cognisant of any such acts ?—(hear, hear.) Captain PLUM RIDGE—I do not think I have any fault to find with the Hon. Member for the question he proposes. ( Laughter and cheers.) I shall answer the question truly, without fearing that I shall compromise myself; and I say that 1 was not cognisant of the arrangement until after it was made.—(Loud cheers from the Opposition benches, and laughter from the Ministerial side of the House.) I assure you that tits arr,mgement did not please me then, nor does it now— ( Laughter)—but I always thought that when a person put his case into the hands of his lawyer, it was to be entirely left with him to settle it as he thought fit ; and in this case I think the act was premature. I hope I have now answered the question, and I could not do so more fairly.—( Loud cheer s.) Mr. ROEBUCK—I beg leave to return thanks to the Hon. and Gallant Member for the extreme candour arid fair ness with which he has answered the question I put to him.-- (Loud cheers.) I could expect nothing from the Hon. and Gallant Member but a fair and honourable answer.—(Cheers.) In the same spirit of inquiry which I have shown, I now beg to ask a question of the Right Honourable Baronet, the Memb©r for Nottingham.—( Laughter.) I wish to ask whether he has been a party to, or cognizant of, or whether, being cognizant of it, he has taken any advantage of an agreement of the following description : that a sum of money has been paid down to avoid the investigation of the Committee respecting the bribery alleged to have taken place at Nottingham—that a fresh sum has been paid down as a pledge, by which it should be permitted to an Hon. Gent!e• man to walk over the course, as it is called, whether he has any knowledge of it, or whether any such terms, or any ap proximating to them, have been come to? Sir J. C. HOBHOUSE—I can make the same ansiver as has already been given, that I do not admit the right of the Hon. and Learned Member to put the question ; therefore I shall not answer it. I shall say no more, Sir, because Ido not consider that more is called for. —( Cheers. ) Mr. ROEBUCK—I agree with the Right Hon. Gentle man that nothing more is called for.—(Order, order.) After I had left this Ilouse last night, I understand that a motion— ( Loud cr.es of " Order.") lam speaking of the Hon. Gen tleman the late Member for Nottingham, Sir G. H. De Lar pent, I think.—(Loud cries of " Order.") I was but about to explain to the House why I was going to ask the question. —(Order, order. ) At half-past twelve or one o'clock, on the day before, it was signified that that Honourable Gentleman had accepted the Stewardship of the Chiltern Hundreds, and therefore I cannot put the question to him.—( Laughter.) Now, Sir, I am going to ask a question of an Hon. Friend of mine, the Member for Lewes. lam about to ask hint if he is cognizant of, or a party to, any agreement or arrangement, by with which the question of bribery at the election of Lewes is to be drawn from the consideration of the Committee, so as to admit a Member into this House, who was not returned by the re turning officer, but who would come into this House by agree • ment between the Hon. Gentleman arid that party ? This is the only question I shall put to the Hon. Member. Mr. ELPHINSTO:NE—In answer to the question, I have to state that 2. compromise did take place upon that Committee by my Hon. Colleague on the other side. I must further state that neither directly nor iedirectly have 1 contemplated accept ing the Chiltern Hundreds.—( Cheers. ) Mr. ROEBUCK—I return my best thanks to the Hon. Gentlemen. I have now to ask the Hon. Member for Har wich, or rather the two Hon. Members, whether they are party to, or cognizant of any agreement, by which either of these Hon. Members is to retire from the seat which he now holds. by accepting the Chiltern Hundreds, for the purpo..e of letting another person into the House, and by those means avoiding the consideration of bribery before the Committee? Major BERESFORD—I do in one singular particular fully agree with the Hon. Member, viz. that his present conduct is most extraordinary. Neither my Hon. Colleague nor myself can conceive what right the Honourable and Learned Gentleman has to ask me this question here in my face, relative to any private arrangements of my owls; and therefore, I decidedly decline to answer the question, which the lion. and Learned Gentleman has asked me. How- ever, if the Hon. and Learned Gentleman has any prima facia case with regard to the Harwich election petition—it he has any grounds to go upon, let him bring it before a competent tribunal—let him bring it before this House, and then I will be ready to explain to the House, and thereby clear my character from the slurs these sort of questions throw upon it, and I trust I shall prove myself free from all blame. Before that tribunal 1 will willingly state all I know, and 1 perhaps may then gratify the active curiosity of the lion. and Learned Gentlemen. I will not give an answer to the Learned inquisitor himself, but to the House.—( Cheers.) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved the Order of the Day for the House resolving itself into a Coin mittee on the Property-tax Bill. Mr. ROEBUCK considered that he was entitled on the motion of the Right Hon. Gentleman to put it to the House whether or not he was entitled to bring forward the question of privilege of which he had given notice last night. He thought, after having n a notice of the kind he had done, he was bound to press on the House the question whether, on the subject of breach of privilege, he had not a right to be heard. lie had heard certain statements respecting various Alembers of that House in connection with election petitions. Thos... statements having came to his ear, and being anxious at all times to preserve the character of the 1-louse, he had thought it his duty to bring the subject under its consi deration ; arid, as a mere matter of privilege, he claimed the right of being heard. Having stated that the state ment affected certain Members in the House, he de manded from it the consideration of the question, and from the Chair its decision, whether or not, if he stated in his place, that he had heard imputations against certain Mem bers whom he had questioned, he was not justified in bringing it before the consideration of the House. The SPEAKER said, if the Hon. Member had any accusa tion to make against any Members of the House by which they had incurred a breach of the privileges of the House, he must first move that those Members attend in their places ; and then if he proved that they had been guilty of such conduct as was a breach of privilege, it would be competent for him to move for a Committee to inquire whether certain actions were or were not a "Toss breach of the privileges of the House. If he din not adopt r that course, he was not making such a motion as would entitle him to precedence on the ground of a breach of privilege. Mr. ROEBUCK was ready to state the accusations, and having done so he believed they would be proved to be a gross breach of the privileges of the House, aed under these circum stances he thought he should be justified in moving for a Com mittee of Inquiry on the subject. Mr. H. ELPHINSTONE said, that ifhis Hon. and Learned Friend had any imputation to throw upon him, he hoped he would bring the charge immediately, and give him at once the opportunity of a reply. Mr. ROEBUCK said that he would do what he could to put the House in possession of the facts of the case, as they had reached him. Ile was then prepared to state certain imputations made against certain Members. All those Members, or almost all of them, he believed were then in the House; and as they were there he was prepared to make in their presence the statement which he wished to lay before the House. He had said before, that the instances he was about to state were, he believed, a breach of the privileges of the House, as ho was sure they were a breach of the common law of these realms. Under these circumstances he believed lie would be in order in moving for a Committee of Privileges to inquire into the facts. The SPEAKER said that under the circumstances stated by the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, he should consider he would be in order in moving for the proposed inquiry. The House was, however, in this po•ition—a motion had been made that the Order of the Day for the Committee on the Pro perty-tax Bill' should be read, and the Hon. and Learned Gentleman could not make his motion unless the previous mo tion were withdrawn. Mr. ROEBUCK said that he had' no desire to stop the course of the Government ; but if the Right Hon. Baronet thought it would be advantageous for the business of the House that a question affecting its privileges should be immediately brought under its consideration, he (Mr. It. ) was prepared to proceed. Sir ROBERT PEEL said that he was quite ready to bow to the decision of the Chair when given against him ; on the other hand, he thought it most desirable that any Member who brought forward a motion on the ground of a breach of privilege ought to have that precedence to which he was entitled. But, on the other hand, he thought it would establish a very inconvenient precedent, if an Hon. Gentleman, bringing forward a motion, should bring it forward contrary to the rules of the House. For his part he was ready to abide by the decision of the House. He need not say how anxious he was, upon public grounds, that they should proceed with the mea sures introduced by the Government, but at the same time although his Bight lion. Friend had moved the Order of the Day for the Committee on the Property-tax, he (Sir It. Peel) should not insist upon that circumstance if the Hon. and Learned Gentleman was clearly entitled to bring forward a question of privilege.—( Hear, hear.) If the Hon. and Learned Gentleman were to bring forward the motion on Monday, he (Sir B. Peel) should gain nothing, but at foe same time he should say he thought that in the case of a motion of so unusual a character (he would not say more) it would be tor the public advantage that there should be seme delay before its discus sion. He was not aware what might be the facts which the Honourable and Learned Gentleman might reveal, but he could not think it would be desirable that the House should at once entertain the question. The matter was one of indifference to the Government as regarded the time at which it might be brought forward, but he could not help thinking that it would be more satis factory to the House, and more consistent with justice to individuals, that the Honourable and Learned Gentleman should give his notice for Monday next, and allow the House the interval for considering the matter. But if the lion. and Learned Gentleman insisted on the right, which the Speaker declared he possessed, of bringing forward this question, he, for one, should not insist on the accidental circumstance of the Right Hon. Gentleman, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, having moved the Order of the Day as an impediment. Mr. ROEBUCK said, he was quite in the hands of the House as to whether he should go on now, or defer it till Mon day.—(Loud cries of " Go on, go on.") The Hon. Captain FITZROY asked the Hon. and Learned Member for Bath whether he included him in the list ? Mr. ROEBUCK replied in the affirmative. Capt. FITZROY said, in a matter of such importance he trusted the Right Hon. Baronet would allow them time. Major BERESFORD stated that his colleague, who was unwell, had gone out of town ten days before the Hon. and Learned Member had given notice of hi; intention.—( Go on. ) The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in accord ance with the general feeling of the House, withdrew his motion for reading the Order of the Day for going into Committee on the Property-tax. BBEACH OF PRIVILEGE. Mr. ROEBUCK then said, the Right Honourable Baronet at the head of her Alajesty's Government had termed the course he had pursued on the present occasion, a very extra ordinary one; he quite agreed with the Right Hon. Gentleman that it was an extraordinary course, but he thought b e fore he sat down he s h ou ld have convinced the House that the cir- , cumstances under which he acted were also extraoseli nary, and that extraordinary evils required extraordinary remedies. lie had deviated from the ordinary course of mak ing motions before the House, but it was in curse• quence of there being grave suspiewn attaching to the two Members sitting ler the town of Nottingham. He should be able to show the House that there was grave reason for suspicion against the two Mem bers for Nottingham.—( Cries of " One ! One !") Yes ! One had resigned. He should be able to show the House that there was grace reason for suspicion against the two :Members for Harwich, or at least against one of them ; he should also show that there were grave suspicions resting on certain transactions connected with the representation of Penryn arid Falmouth ; that there was the same grave suspicion resting on the two Members for Reading, and also on the two Members for Lewes. Now what reasons were there for entertaining these suspicions? This was a matter in which of all others it behoved the House to be watchful. It was no less an accusation than this. that certain Members of that Howse had obtained their seats through intimidation and bribery. He charged the Right Hon. Member for Nottingham with bribery. He charged the Gentleman who had recently resigned his seat for Nottingham with bribery. He charged the Honourable Member for Harwich with bribery. He charged one of the Members for Penryn and &lin ;uth bribery. He charged the Hon. Members for Reading with bribery. He charged the Member for Lewes with bribery. How, it might be asked, had these facts been with drawn from the cognizance of the tribunals by law established? This it was that had led to the extraordinary proceeding which he had adopted. The law was framed in such a manner that those who were co snisant of their own guilt, were enabled to withdraw the consideration of the subject from the tribunal by law appointed. But should it therefore be said that Parliament, which possessed large powers, which insti tuted inquiries of a much more stringent nature, should there fore suffer these things to be withdrawn from its cognizance? An Act of Parliament had been paned, appointi ig a tribunal for the trial of election petitions —any one presenting an election petition had by that Act the power of withdrawing it, and this was the manner of proceeding which had taken place. He would suppose a case. Suppose a general election about to take place, and that the two seats for Nottingham were about to be contested; a sort of a Parliamentary Napoleon determines to conquer that town ; he jumps upon it, as Napoleon would have said, with both his feet —he rushes down into the town, he bribes every man he meets, he frightens his opponent out of the town, and he is returned. The party who has lost, petitions; the Corn mittee is to be struck, say on Monday—fear seizes the Member., and they enter into a compromise with the party opposed to them. They pay down money for the purpose of exculpating them selves, and of escaping from the scrutiny of a Committee. They further pledge themselves, to allow the other candidates, to walk over the course. He (Mr. R.) hearing of those things, put a question to the Right Hon. Gentleman who must be cog nisant of the circumstances. And now he asked the House what would have beers the conduct of each Member of that House if he had not been cognizant of the fact? Suppose such a question as he hail asked to. night had been put to him, what would have been his answer? Should he have sheltered himself under the plea—" that the Hon. and Learned Member for Bath had no right to put such a question ?" No. He should have been glad of such a question ; he would have said in the face of that House, and of the country, of which he was a representative, that the whole statement was a foul lie and calumny. Had nut one of those Honourable Members already what he (Mr. Roebuck) anticipated at five o'clock yesterday—accepted the Stewardship of the Chiltern Hundreds for the purpose of keeping that very contract which he (Mr. Roebuck) had then given notice of bringing under the consideration of the House ? He ( Mr. Roebuck) was met by a statement upon this subject to which he must advert. It was said, suppose that, under the circumstances mentioned, the Honourable Member found it expensive to protect his scat, what was he to do? He (Mr. R.) allowed that, but his charge went further ; his charge went to say that he heard, and had reason to believe, that some money had beer, either promised or paid down, fur the purpose of escaping the scrutiny of an Election Committee.—( Hear, hear.) Now, that was not simply acting as if he was unable to go through the contest. It was saying that he was guilty of that which the petition laid to his charge—that he was prepared to give something to escape from an inquiry. Now he (Mr. R. ) was prepared to say, and did say, that he had heard those things circulated through every portion of the town in which he had been. He was prepared to say, that if they gave him power to bring the question before them, and to examine the agent s e ngaged in those transactions, he would get out all about them. Was the House prepared to say that that gross bribery—that bribery of a whole town for electioneering purposes—as a gross breach of its privileges? If they were prepared to say so, he had no answer to make ; but, if not, there 'he was in his place, to say that he believed the accusation, and that, believing it, he was able to prove it. Now he would go to Reading. He had heard, and he had reason to believe, that a bond had been entered into for the purpose which he was about to state. '1 he Hon. Member—he was obliged to name hint because he wanted to distinguish them—the Noble Member for Reading was to accept the Chiltern Hundreds. (Laughter. ) The Noble. Member fur Reading, under a penalty by which either he or his friends were bound, was to vacate his seat by a certain day. He contended that that was .. a breach of the privileges of 4 the House. Of what was the Noble Member accused? Of bribery, of intimidation, of corruption ; and before the question could be tried, the Committee he be lieved only sitting one day, the whole thing was hushed up. He (Mr. Roebuck) charged the Noble Member with having agreed to withdraw because he was accused of having corrupted his fellow-countrymen, and did not desire to meet their charge.— ( Hear, hear. ) Now to proceed to the town of Nottingham; it was extremely important to know what were the secusations of that. petition. I'he accusations which were included in the allegations of that petition were these, that the Right lion. Sir John Cane fisbhouse, and Sir G. H. Dc Larpent had been returned bar the town of Nottingham ; but that as far as the petitioners could learn, the whole of the constituency had been corrupted ; that a large number of them had been cooped, the meaning of which was that they had been shut up in their houses, and that it was through the strategetic operations of the Right Hon. Gentleman that they had been returned. It appeared that there was enough said to frighten the sitting Members.—( Hear.) But now he would ask the House, what was to become of all the privileges of Parliament, of all the honourable feelings which guided the conduct of men in that House, if after an election petition had been presented, it were hushed up in an hour, lest the grossest corruption should be exposed to the public gaze ?. Nothing was further from him than to attribute any thing dishonourable to the Hon. and Gallant Member opposite, or to his Hon. and Learned Friend on the other side of the House.—( Hear, hear. ) But they were now pursuing a course which, if allowed to pro ceed further, would break up the constitution of the country ; and, therefore, he hoped the Honourable Gentlemen on both sides would excuse him when, having found both of them in the slough, he brought forward their names. His lion. and Learned Friend allowed there was a compromise, but he.did not state what that compromise was.—( Hear, hear.) A compromise was entered into for the purpose of preventing the charge of bribery being brought be fore the Committee. Here was the case aemitted, and, therefore, he could not be accused of rashly rushing in to ac cuse any persons. He produced the facts as he found them laid down. Hon. Gentlemen forced money into their hands, which they employed for the purposes of bribing electors ; and, in consequence of that bribery, they were returned to Parliament. Petitions were presented against the returns; and the parties had in their hands s uch proofs as enabled them to say, " If you , do not gi ve up your seats at once , you see the consequences. And being prudent men, connected with one another, they made the arrangements ; and now he saw the lion. and Gallant Member in his place.—( Cheers and laughter.) He was not accusing them, but the system.-_ (Cheers. ) I'he Hon. and Gallant Member was there in con sequence of that system. It was the system he wanted to ex pose. There he is, and here is my Hon. and Learned Friend, but where, oh ! where, is his colleague ?—( Loud cheers and laughter.) And Echo answers, Where ?—(Cheers.) He now came to the Hon. and Gallant M em b er f or Penryn. li e had not a acknowledgedparty, and a he wa s extreme l y angry. (C apta i n arintat whichcompromise, but one to which he was not Plumridge was understood to express dissent.) lie begged pardon ; the Hon. arid Gallant Member said he was displeased. But what came out before th e P enryn C omm i ttee ? The Committee was appointed, am! a w it ness b rought f orwar d , w h o swore to direct acts of bribery ; the thing became unpleasant ; an arrangement was made the night b e f ore th e p e ti t i on was withdrawn ; and upon its withdrawal the Committee declared, " We beg to say that we did not believe one word of what the witness swore."—( Laughter.) They withd rew th e petition— the world knew nothing inure. They did so, and the Hon. Member retired in July.—( Laughter.) The Hon. and Gal lant Member was afraid of his friends—he was afraid of his lawyers—he was afraid of that. They who knew the case to the bottom, who brought the legal acumen, who had seen men tried at the bar—they. said " the case is up ; we won't try this ; you must retire il July."—( L ou d laughter.) Was he not to retire in July ? 'There was no answer to that—there was no answer to his ( Sir. Roebuck's) appli ca ti on as t o w h et h er h e was to retire in July. Why, if that wit ness did not te ll t h e truth, why was he t o retire? For what reason? H e was i n good health—( Loud l a ughter)—quite equal to his Parliamen tary duties. Thee why did lie retire ? Capt. PLUMRIDGIe --It is a bad basgain.—( Great laugh ter, which coctinued some time.) Mr. ROEBUCK asked th e House , an d the p eo p le of Eng land, if this was proper language? This was the best argu ment that could be used. Did they come . there to represent their fellow-cou n t r ymen to watch over their interests, to take care of all that was dear to them and to the House? and yet the Hon. and Gallant Member said this was a bad bargain. He (Mr. Roebuck) entreated Hon. Gentlemen not to permit such language. He wanted to brand with shame those who used their legislative capacity in this way, and to teach them that they were unworthy °fa seat in that House. Such conduct ought not to be permitted in that assembly. He now turned to Harwich.—( Laughter.) The Members were charged with bribery, treating, and corruption. There were three petitions. One was presented by Mr. Bagshawe, supporting one of the candidates, Sir Deni s l e Merchant. Before anything hap pened • a sudden light broke in upon the sitting Members for Harwich,.dthat Oe and the th ree pe titi ons were withdrawn. The accts. of those Hon. Gentlemen was to retire to let ration in n said same Sir Denis le Merchant. The accusation was bribery, treating, and c orruption.. The p e titi on e rs h a d re tired, and the Membe rs re tired. The lion. and Gallant t Gen tleman had told h; -au that he might draw what conclusion he pleased—he drew this conclusion, that either he or his colleague would retire.— (hear, hear.) Ho asserted now that one of them was to retire, Why w as he to retire, or why had joy gone forth to the friends of Sir Denis le Merchant? Why did they say they h ad got the seat of Harwich? Why, be cause a compromise had taken place between those parties.— (Hear, hear.) , A curiou s thi n g had occurred in Har w ic h—the sitting Members alone had presented their objection lists; the other parties had b een more careful.—( Hear, hear.) Now h e found in that list of ob j ections ' 83 for receiving bribes and 18 for offering. Now he wanted to know how many voters were ob jected to on the other side. He did not hesitate to say a great many more, and if the House would give him the Committee he asked, he would show clearly that there were a great many more. The present case was a curious one with respect to numbers; there were charged, by the objection of the peti tioners; 80 as being bribed 40 for having made bets on the chance of the election, and 96 as corrupted. Those were the objections of the petitioners, making altogether '216 ; while, on the part of the sitting Member there were charged with bribery, with attempt s at bribery , with having bribed, and with betting, no l am a number than 5013. Now, how many voted ?—for Mr. Summers Harford, 311 ; for Mr. H. Elphinstone, 109; Mr. Fitzroy , 407; and Lord Cantilupe, 308. There were, therefore, 722 objections to an election, when the highest number for the candidates did not exceed 411. He hart been told that at the last two elections for Not tingham 4,000 persons had received bribes. Give him a Com mittee, and he would prove it to their satisfaction. Let them now go to Penryn ; the Committee was appointed and sat one day; witnesses were heard, and what was the statement of all the members of the Committee whom he knew— of all the lawyers with whom he came in contact? Why, that if they had gone one step further, if it had only lasted five minutes longer, it would have been totally impossible to have withdrawn the petition ? And why ? Because the thing had been so plain, that Honourable Gentlemen upon their oaths would have been afraid to have committed themselves to the statement. He contended that these things demanded inquiry —he asked no more. lie wanted an inquiry such as would free Hon. Members from the accusations made against them, or that, justifying those accusations, would lay the ground for further legislative measures; and what was the legislative in terference which he asked? Why, such as should enable the House to consider election petitions as something more than a fight between A and B. At present, the return to a seat in that House was considered a mere matter of Mr. A. or , Mr. B. If Mr. A. gains, his party gains; if Mr. B. wins, why, his party wins. But the public burdens of this great empire was totally unconsidered in the question, and they bought and sold the constituencies of this coun try as if they were a flack of sheep.--( Hear, hear. ) Look at the case of Nottingham. The Hon. Baronet had bought the whole constituency— (Cheers)—and Mr. Walter has bought it through him. The Hon. Baronet had had a bad bargain, anti had sold it for less than he had bought it before, but still he had sold it. It was this he wanted to inquire into. He did not confine his accusation to one side of the House or to the other—he had made it no party question ; but he stood up for the purity of the House, and, God willing, he would make it pure.—( Oh, oh," and cheers.) He could not make it pure it they allowed such things to go by without inquiry. He now addressed himself to both sides of the House —to the protection of the public wealth—the protection of the Commonwealth and he asked to be allowed to lay these things before them. They knew them to be well founded ; there was not one of them but would say, however ill-advised he had been, he had told the truth. What ! would the lion. Member for Lewes sty that he sat there for nothing ? It was impossible. Give hen a Committee, and he would prove what he said. Mr. FITZROY—I will vote for you. Mr. ROEBUCK was glad to hear it; it was just what he expected. But when all these things had gone abroad, anti the public mind was impressed with these details of corruption and baseness, would they shrink from inquiry? Was there any man in that House so bold—any man so careless of his own reputation, as to deny him (Mr. Roebuck) the means of in quiry ? lie hoped his motion would be seconded by the Right Hon. Gentleman the Member for Nottingham.—( A laugh. ) He (Mr. Roebuck) would not appeal to others to do so—he asked him (Sir .1. Ilobliouse) to second his motion.—( Cheers and laughter.) He told the Right Hon. Baronet that his (Sir J. Hobhouse's) character was concerned. That the ac cusations brought against him would not he got rid of by his mere refusal to answer a question. He (Mr. Roebuck), there fore, called upon the House to grant him a Committee to in vestigate those accusations which he had made in his place in Parliament, in his own name, and he asked the House of Com mons to grant him a Committee to inquire into the truth of those accusations.—( Loud cheers. ) Mr. FITZROY rose, amidst loud cries of " Hobhowe " " Hobhouse." He had not the slightest objection to second the motion.—(Checre.) Ile was thankful to the House for having suffered this question to have precedence—for not having deferred the discussion until Monday ; and he appealed to the House if the Hun. and Learned Gentleman had not failed to attach any suspicion to him (Mr. Fitzroy). He had asked the Hon. and Learned Gentleman, across the floor, if he included him ( Mr, Fitzroy) in his list, and the Hon. and Learned Gentleman had said that he did. Now he (Mr. Fitzroy) had paid the greatest attention to the speech of the Hon. and Learned Gentle'man, and the Hon. and Learned Gentleman had failed to attach any accusation to him.—(Cheers. ) He asked, how had the Hon. and Learned Gentleman attached to him that he had committed any breach of privilege. He had obtained, by petition, the seat which he believed to be justly and :fairly his own, and it hail been conceded to him by the Member against whom he had petitioned. Had he been guilty of any breach of privilege, by taking possession of that scat which had been conceded to him ? Was he to act as a public prosecutor ? Because he had accused the Honourable Gentleman, who had been returned, of bribery, was he (Mr. Fitzroy) to subject. himself to the expense of sn investigation, which might last, perhaps, three weeks? If he were to be the public prosecutor, he hoped the House would attach a large salary to the office. On account of the emiesion to fill up certain heeds of objection, he felt aware that it would have been useless to attempt to secure the return of his late Noble Colleague; and as the Hon. Gentleman against whom he (Mr. Fitzroy) had petitioned had retired, what was there to prevent his taking possession of the seat? Was there any breach of the privileges of the House in so doing? The Hon. arid Learned Gentleman seemed to think that it would be a desirable system to force every one presenting a petition against the return of a Member, containing accusations of bri bery and corruption, to proceed at a great expense to investigate every circumstance connected with those accusations, without having the power of withdrawing them. Whether such a course was desirable or not, it was not for him (Mr. Fitzroy) to say. He should be inclined to compel the petitioner so to do. But as such a law had not as yet been introduced, he maintained that he was free from any imputation of having committed a breach of the privileges of that House. He had taken a seat con ceded to him with no unworthy bargain on his part. He took the see; because the lion. Gentlemen who had occupied it had failed to defend it. He was one of those who wished the House, as well as his own public and private character, to stand pure be fore the world ; and he believed that there was no political guilt on the part of any man but must also attach to his pri vate character. He believed that all political delinquency mutt attach to the private character. From any course of that kind however, he had abstained, and he rose publicly there in the presence of the representatives of England, and in the presence of One far more high, to state that, during the contests which he had fought fur seats in that House of Parliament he had never, either directly or indirectly, obtained for himself a vote by any corupt or impure means—( Hear, hear)—and for that reason he would second the proposition of the Honourable and Learned Member. He had always most sedulously set his face against any such practices, and he had to tell his constituents over and over again that he would not accept a seat obtained by unfair practices. If the Committee now moved for were granted, he should prove the truth of his statement. If any persons, in public or private, either in that House or elsewhere, should state that he obtained his seat by mal-practices, he should answer them in the lan guage of the lion and Learned Member (to whom he meant no disrespect whatever), " That such a statement was a foul lie and calumny." He might be allowed, as the list of the number of the objections made by both parties had been read by the Hon. Gentleman, to state one fact in elucidation of that point. Ile must state first that he deprecated the course pursued by the Hon. and Learned Member so far, because he thought it would revive, in the respective boroughs, the heat of party strife. With respect to the bets alluded to by the Hon. Gentleman, he must state that they were merely technical bets—bets of one shilling, of a bottle of wine, or of a pound—made for the pur • pose of raising a legal question.—( Hear, hear.) The Hon. and Learned Gentleman must know that there were hundreds of the objections made on both sides, which were not tit to be prosecuted. With respect to the number accused of being bribed, he could only state that they were men of the highest possible standing in the town, and who would scorn to be concerned in the transactions included in time list. He was informed that their names had been in serted from the unworthy motive of insulting them. Ap lo gising to the Hi-use for trespassing on their attention, he would conclude by reiterating the declaration which he had made, that never had he been, and never would he be, knowingly guilty of bribery at elections.— (Cheers.) Mr. ELPHINSTONE, who was inaudible in the gallery, from the rush of Member s to the bar, said that in Lewes it was intended that a scrutiny should take place, and six hundred persons were included in the list of objections. But considering the state of the Election Committees, and their incompetence to decide questions of law, it was not thought advisable to come before Election Committees for these grounds. He had said that neither directly nor indirectly was he cogni zant of the facts alledged, but lie had no doubt that gross bribery had taken plae.e.—( Hear, hear. ) Captain PI. UMIIIDGE, who spoke amid great confusion and in a low tone of voice said—Sir, I beg to state most solemnly and most emphatically before this House, before the world, and before God, that I never gave one penny to any ono before, after, or at the election. and that I ain as pure arid incorruptible as the Hon. and Learned Member for Bath himself.—( Hear.) It was my pledge to all my friends before the election, that I would not spend one farthing, and I have adhered to that pledge most rigidly, and up to this moment I have not made a promise to pay, paid, nor will I pay, one 6011,4 fur the expense of that election; and I—no matter what perjury may say to the contrary—l can pledge myself as an honest man, as an officer, as a gentleman, and as a Member of this House, that I have not paid, promised to pay, nor sv,ll I pay one sous, for my seat ; and, moreover, that I had no paid agent.—(Cheers. ) Mr. WYNN said the question before the House was a most important one, deeply concerning the honour of its Members. It was a question, therefore, which he thought required due con. sideration from them. It was a novel proceeding to bring for ward accusations of this description, and it required deliberation as to how they were to proceed. He had already moved the suspension of the debate on the general grounds, that it was better in all cases of that sort to have time for consideration. He, therefore, again moved the adjournment of the debate till Monday next. Mr. WARD said he saw no reason why the Hon. and Learned Member for Bath should not acquiesce in the pro position of the Right Hon. Gentleman. It was desirable to the country and to the House that they should arrive at a fair couclusion. He felt that there could be no objection on the part of his Hon. and Learned Friend to acquiesce in the propo sition, and he (Mr. Ward) should, therefore, abstain from making a single obseivation on the subject theta and he would merely second the motion. Mr. ROEBUCK said he had no objection to the ad journment. On the question being put, Mr. C. WOOD wished to say that he believed the witness not only perjured himself before the Committee, but he believed had perjured himself before the House of Lords no less than ten years ago. He (Mr. C. Wood) utterly dis believed all the witness had said. Mr. WYNN said he thought it was absolutely necessary that mo.e power should be given to the Committees of that House A week or a fortnight was not sufficient punishment for such a crime, nor was it likely to deter others from com mitting it. Ile hoped the House would recollect what the general character of the evidence was, and would inflict greater punishment than it had hitherto done. Mr. ROEBUCK wished to know from the Hon. Member for Halifax, why, if the Committee was convinced that the witnes , ei had committed Ferjury they had not reported it to the House. AGLIONBY said that the Hon. Member for Bath had anticipated him in the question he had put. It had given him great delight to hear same of the answers of Members on that side of the House, and the manly declaration of the Gallant Member opposite; but he had heard with regret other Hon. Members, who had not pursued the same course. The Hon. Member not having reported the conduct of the witnesses, it was his duty to bring forward some question before the House on the subject, in order to see whether some legal measures should not be adopted. Mr. C. WOOD did not say that the Committee were unanimously of opinion that the witnesses were guilty t,f per jury, but the Committee could not believe a word they said. Mr. IN AKLEY was anxious to impress upon the attention of the. House, that if they were to have an inquiry it should be ample, and that they should net have a few victims only. He asked the Speaker to read the motion before the. Hou , e. The SPEAKER said the question before the House was a motion for a " Select Committee to inquire whether certain practices connected with the trial of petitions presented to this House against the return of certain of its Membe:s be not a gross breach of its privileges." Mr. WAKLEY said he understood that a great number of petitions had been presented against the return of Members to this House, but that some of those petitions had never been prosecuted to an inquiry. Practices equally evil and corrupt as those stated by the Hon. Gentleman had taken place in re ference to the withdrawal of these petitions. ` , Would not this be regarded as a partial inquiry, if they merely inquired into the four or five cases that had been gone into ? He hoped the Hon. Gentleman would amend his motion, so as to take in all the other cares. Mr. HUME differed from his Hon. Friend. If they wished for any good result from the inquiry, they must put some limits to it. The debate was then adjourned till Monday nest. PROPERTY TAX. The Order of the Day for going into a Committee of the whole House on the Property -tax was then read, and the Speaker left the Chair. Clauses 83 to 93 were agreed to. On clause 94 being put, words were proposed to be inserted. exempting literary institutions, and churches and chapels, from the operations of the Act. In reply to a question from Mr. S. O'BRIEN, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, there were difficulties in limiting the exemption to literary institu tions, which required careful consideration ; he would give the subject his serious attention. Mr. HUME said, that in many parts of the country there w•ereßible class-meetings and schools held in chapels—he wished to know whether a circumstance of that kind would deprive them of the benefit of the exemption. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that if the chapels were used for the purpose of Divine worship, that con stituted the exemption. In his opinion, a school or a Bible class, might be fairly considered to be connected with divine worship. Mr. HUME said the churches and chapels of Scotland were. as the Heuse must be aware, used for mcetirgs of various kinds, but he presumed that they were not, on that account, to be deprived of the exemption. lie thought that the words had better be left out, and the Commissioners left to decide what was, and what was not, a place of divine worship. Mr. P. SCROPE asked what remedy would a man have who was supposed to be worth 150/. a yaar in trade, but in reality was not worth so much ? Would he have to pay the tax, or would he be exempt? And if he were to be exempt from the tax, what would be the mode of relieving such a per son-2 Would he have to pay the tax in the first instance, and would an allowance be made to him afterwards? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that was no other mode of giving exemption than that pointed out by the lion. Gentleman. The party should pay the tax in the first instance, and then get a certificate for the amount from the Commissioners of Stamps and Taxes. if such a course were not adopted the Hon. Gentleman must see that facility would be given for much fraud. After a few words from Mr. HUME, The clause was then agreed to. Clause 95 was then proposed, and the blanks harieg been filled up, the clause was agreed to. Clause 96 was then proposed, with the Schedule D and the rules thsreunto annexed. On the first rule for the computa tion of the duty on trade being proposed, Mr. HUME objected to the duty being computed on an average of three years. His Hon. Friend the Member for Greenock proposed to calculate the duty on the profits of the past year. He (Mr. Hume) thought it ought to be calculated on the current one. If he believed our distresses to be tem porary, he should not care so much about the average of three • years bring taken, but he thought the distress would go on increasing, and that therefore it would be most unfair to calcu late the duty nn an average of three years. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that on that point a great variety of opinion existed. 1 hose who con sidered the three last years as bad years, and who were of opinion that things would mend, approved of the average of three years. It was generally found in matters of this kind that to take the estimate for the longer period would give the fairer result. Mr. HUME only appealed to the Gcrvernment to do what was just. He secand only ask whether the profits of the year were better than they were last, year ? He did not think they were, and therefore it was hard to tax the present year, which was ba with the amount of last year. Mr. W. ELLIS said that as far as he could understand, the universal sentiment was that the country was in a state or gloomy depression, which, however, might be removed as soon as the Government measures were passed. With regard to list year, the grt atest losses were sustained ; and he believes' there were few commercial houses that paid their expenses. The years 1339 and Ir4o were tolerably good, but the last year was very bad. And if there were any signs of returning prosperity, he would not object to the Government measures; but there were no appearances of a revival of commerce. Sir ROBERT PEEL said there had been a general com plaint respecting the depression of trade for the last three years and more. It was impossible to say that one of tho•e three years had been prosperous. He thought that any tradesman would give the preference to the average of three years being taken instead of one year. Hun. Gentlemen must recollect that in that Bill there was an option given to compound for the tax. Su/posing the next year should be a bad one, or good in the preceding one, in that case the party would be charged upon the average of the last three years, and so, if the two years were bad. Now he (Sir R. Peel) should be very sorry to express any very sanguine expectath.n of the recovery of trade. He was bound to say that the spring had disappointed his expectations, for he was in hopes there would have been a restoration of trade; but lion. Gentlemen must admit that the spring had not advanced far. The House ought to adopt mea sures likely to restore the trade o! the country, and he thought the measures proposed would have that ef fect.—Hear, hear.) He did not think it was an in justice to calculate the average of the last three years, nor did he think that any one could complain in parties being al lowed to compound for the tax. He thought a great number would be found to object to a shorter period for the average than three years. Mr. WAK!,EY said he thought that it was a matter of ex treme difficulty to tell what was the best course to pursue where so many interests were concerned. Some men were of one opinion and some of others, and he really did not know that he had himself come to any conclusion as to whether it were better to take the last year, or the average of three years. The Right Hon. Burenet had, with a good deal of candour, admitted that he had been disappointed with regard to a revival of trade. Ile believed that the badness of trade was owing to the no certainty of measures in that House—( Hear)—and he did think that the House ought to go to work on Monday. and go through with this question and the tariff immediately, —( Hear, hear.) It was quite impossible that trade could re vive, till thee Bills were decided one way or the other ; and he believed that if the Right Hon. Baronet would appeal to the House, the Members would concur with him, that every other matter of business should be set aside, till these important questions were settled.—( Hear, hear.) Lord S. WORTLEY said, he rejoiced io hear that opinion expressed by the lion. Member for Finsbury. Ho was sure that there was nothing so anxiously looked to, as the adoption or rejection of these measures.—( Hear, hear. ) Sir R. PEEL said, if the House would apply itself, for about a fortnight to these matters, they would get through them. He had a delicacy in pressing these questions on the House; but he was sure, if the House would, for a fortnight or three weeks, take these questions from day to day, there would be a great saving of public time in the end.—( Hear, hear.) Mr. MUNTZ said, that though he differed from the Right Hon. Baronet as to the result of these measures, ho thought the sooner they ware got through the better.—(Hear, hear.) At present, it was quite impossible for mercantile men to know what to hue, or what to sell. He would, therefore, with a great deal of pleasure give his vote for the Hon. Member for Finsbury: After a few words from Mr. M. ATTWOOD, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER explained that he hail given the power of compounding for a period of three years, which he gave as a reassn against taking the average for less than three years. Mr. HUAI E proposed that the blank be filled up with " one year," as the duration of the term on which the Income-tax is to be calculated. Mr. BAILEY thought the three years' calculation would operate unjustly. Mr. BARING said that by clause 125, parties had the poseur of recovering, it' they had paid more I ban the average of their income for three sears. Sir R. PEEL thought it would not bs fair or just to take a less average than three years. Mr. ATT WOOD advocated the substitution of one year in stead of three. Alter a few observations from Mr. FIELMIN and Mr. MUNTZ, the Committee divided, when there appeared—. For the clause For the amendment Majority f it the clause — 49 • Rule 2 was agreed to. After a short conversation, rule :3 was then passed. Mr. B. WOOD suggested that the deduction of bad debts should be left to the discretion of the Commissioners. Mr. GILL thought some explanation was necessary on the subject, as to whether a bad debt entered in a merchatit's book as such would be allowed by the Commissioners. Sir ROBERT PEEL said that under the old la- s the Com missioners were empowered to levy the tax on the whole amount of a bad debt, lost that the party upon whom the tax was levied upon application obtained a remission, and he only paid on the amount he recovered on the debt. After a few words from Mr. TURNER. and Mr. B. Wotan, the rule was agreed to. Rule 4of this clause was also ordered to stand part of the Bill. Rules 1,2, and 3 of the second case in this clause were agreed to. Itules 1,2, 3. 4, and 5, applying to both the cases of this clause, were agreed to. Rules 1,2, and 3 of the third case were agreed te. Rule 1 of the fourth case was agreed to. Rule 1 of the filth case was agreed to. The 6th and last case in this clause was agreed to. Clause 97 was agreed to. On clause 93 being proposed, Mr. FRENCH moved that after the word " pei iods," the words " except only such annuities, and yearly interest of money, as shall be payable in Great Britain to, or on beh a lf o f, any person bona fide resident in Ireland," should be inserted. After a short conversatian, the clause, as it originally stood, was agreed to. Clause 99 was agreed to. Clauses from 100 to 117 inclusive, were agreed to without discussion. On the reading of clause 118, to the effect that Commissioners might put questions in writing touching any assessment or schedules, and receiving answers, Mr. GILL opposed the clause, as it was most unj , st and in quisitorial, empowering the Commissioners to bring before them the clerks, agents, and servants of any person with whose return they were dissatisfied. It was true that those persons were not compelled to answer or to take an oath. But it must be evident to any man acquainted with business what the working of such a clau s e, would b e . The to say that the clause was not compulsory, and the Commissioners would not resort to the powers which it entrusted to them except in extreme cases. Air. HUME said the clause was such as could scarcely be tolerated in Spain in the worst time, of the Inqui sition. But he would recommmend the Hon. Gentleman not to attempt to amend it, as it was not worth Interning. After a few words from Mr. HOWARD, the clause was agreed to. — Clauses from 119 to 127 were agreed to. Clause 128 was paned with amendments. Clause 129 was agreed to without discussion, as were all the clauses from 130 to 157. On clause 158, which gives the exemption to all persons of incenses utmer !WI. a-year being put, Mr. E. BULLER thought, as the clause stood, there were no words which would enable these parties to claim the ex emption. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that the Hon. Gentleman's objection would be met by filling up the blank with the words " one hundred and fifty." The clause, so amended was agreed to. Clauses from 15.1 to 16L were agreed to, with a few verbal amendments. Clause 166. giving power to the Commisnoners to grant re lief from double assessments, were agreed to, after a short conversation. Clauses 167, 168, and 169 were agreed to, without any amendment. Clauses 170, 171, and 172 were agreed to, with a few ver bal amendments. Clauses 173, 174, 175, and 176 were agreed to, without any amendment, fhe remaining clauses were then agreed to up to 188, which provided that the Act should remain in force up to 1845. On this clause being proposed, Mr. HUME moved that " 1843" be substituted inr " 1845 " Strangers , A ere of tiered to wi.hdraw, and the House divided, when the numbers were— For the amendment Against it Majority —122 On our return to the gallery, we found Mr. I'. HOWARD sta:ing that he had voted against the amendment because he thought the measure too expensive to be made to continue hut for one year. But he thought that two years was quite a sufficiently long period for the continuance of the measure. He therefore moved that in the words ".one thousand eight hundred and forty-five," the word " four" he substituted for " five." The Hon. Member subsequently withdrew his amendment, and the clause was agreed to. Clause 189, the last in the Bill, which directs that the Act may be amended or repealed in this session was then put and as to. 52 ....... 174 - Mr. F. MAULE said, he wished to ask the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite a question in reference to the second rule in Schedule C. He ought to apologize for asking the ques tion, as the Right Hon. Gentleman had made a statement on the subject. However, he (Mr. F. Maule) was not in the House at the time. He wished to know what course the Right Hon. Gentleman meant to adopt with respect to the motion of which he (Mr. Maule) had given notice—of including other places of worship, besides those of the Established Church, in the exemption from the operation of this Bill? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he' pro posed to insert after the word ," chapel" the words " or other building licensed according to law as a chapel o r house of divine worship, and wed for no other prrposes. Mr. FOX MAULF. said that the Right Hon. Gentleman had done justice t.l all dcunminations.—(Cheers.) But he wished to know whether the words in the clause would ex empt- Dissenters' chapels in Scotland from the tax. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQURR said that the words were taken from the Assessed Taxes Act, and if he found, on inquiry, that those chapels were not exempted, thr words should be altered.--( Hear, hear.) Mr. FOX MAULE said, that what the Right Hon. Gen tleman stated was perfectly satisfactory, and he begged to re turn him thanks. Several supplementary clauses were then agreed to. EXEMPTION OF SOLICI FORS FROM THE INCOME-TAX. . Mr. H. R. YORKE moved " That it be an instruction to the Committee on the Property•tax Bill, that they have power to introduce a clause to exempt attorneys and solicitors from the annual payment of ce,•tificate duties during the time they shall he subject to a tax upon income." • The clause was then brought up, and, on its being proposed to be read a first time, Colonel SIBTHORP said he would support the clause, because the solicitors were called on to pay a duty for their certiticates, and he hoped the Right lion. Gentleman would take their ease into his consideration. The clau,e was then read a first time. On the qttestion being put, that the clause be read a second time, . _ . Tile CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that it would not be proper to exempt attorneys and solicitors from the operation of the tax, on account of the duty on certificates which were necessary fur the conducting of their professions. If they were to allow all persons who paid duties an exemption from the Property-tax, Ile feared it would fall very short of the amount that was expeteed from it. Mr. Alderman HUMPHERY said, that if the present clause passed, he should propose that merchants be exempted on account of the duty they laid en receipts and bi is of ex change. Mr. WA KLEY said, if the Chancellor of the Exchequer adopted this proposition with regard to attorneys, he most adopt a similar proposition with regard to other persons simi larly situated. 'ihe lieenced victuallers, for instance, like the attorneys, wereobliged to take out a licence to carry on their hu,iness, and he thought th.- claims of licensed victual lers to exemption were much stranger than those of the attorneys. Mr. HUM E advised his Hon. Friend to withdraw his motion. He thought the tax upon those certificates aught to be taken off, but that the present was not the proper Hate for bringing it forward. If this exemption were allowed other exemptions would be claimed, and it would be impossible to know where to stop. If his Friend brought forward his motion on a proper occasion, he (Mr. Hume) would suppiirt him. Mr. H. R. YORKE would say, dna if there were other parties equally entitled to exemption. they Ought to be exempted. He had no connexion whatever with attorneys, and had brought forward his motion, only because he believed it was founded in justice and fairness; and therefore, although he was at. all times anxious not to give the House any trouble, he felt bound to press his motion to a division. Stt angers were then ordered to withdraw, and the Commit tee divided, when there appeared For the clause Against it Majority against the clause ... --165 Colonel SII3THOIII 3 moved the insertion of a " Clause to secure payment of the tax from foreigners temporarily residing in this country, and deriving income or profits' from any ern ployment or business therein." Ile thought that foreign dancers and singers, who derived from this country very considerable sums, ought not to be exempt from the tax. Some of theirs received many thousands in the course of a few months, and yet they were not liable to any tax.—The clause was brought up. Mr. HENLEY moved the insertion of a clause, ". To enable the Commissioners, or other Government officers, to relieve occupiers of land, in certain caes, from the whole, or any part of the duty charged upon them under Schedule B, as to there may seem just.'—The clause was ordered to be brought up. On the Order of the Day for the second reading of this clause being read, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that he thought sufficient indulgences to meet the exigencies of the case had been shown to that parieular class to which the clause referred. Ile thought it much better that the clause should not be inserted. After a few words from Mr, DARBY, Mr. HENLEY said, he thought he was bound to have brought this under the attention of tke House, but it was na l his intention to press it to a division. He begged to witladraW his motion. Mr. F. MAULE said he thought that the Hon. GentLerean had done quite right in withdrawing his motion. Mr. B. WOOD wished to know whether the Right non - Baronet proposed to introduce his clause, of which he (Mr' Wood) had given notice, into the Bill. Sir R. PEEL said that he should commit this Bill 03 Monday, and that he shOuld proceed with the tariff on Tuts' day. He was sorry to inform the Hon. Gentleman that, after much consideration, he had come to the conclusion that it would be very dangerous to insert his clause, inasmuch as it might lead to great evasions of the tax. Mr. T. DUN COMBE said he had to move a clause fin; the purpose of placing the borough electors on the s ame grin"' as the county electors. Sir R. PEEL expressed a wish that the Hon. Member should give notice of his clause, and move it on the bringing up of the Report. He had no wish to place the borough elec' tors in a worse condition than those of the counties. But a ' this act was a temporary one, he would avoid as much al possible any enactment that should interfere wi h the assessed taxes. Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said he would propose the clattse aR bringing up the Report. After a short conversation between Colonel Sibthorp, th e . Chancellor of the Exchequer, and Sir R o b er t P ee l, the Ho°' resumed, and the Report was ordered to 15e brought up Monday. The remaining clauses and the preamble were then agree d to, the Report was ordered to be brought up, and ordered t° , be received on Monday. POOR-LAWS. Sir J. GRAHAM said, he should state on Monday they a d on which he should bring on the Poor-law ContinitanceA the The other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, House, at One o'clock, adjourned till Monday. MONEY MARKET and v N fa ISTS. SUN.—Businesz in the English funds has been enn6e 6d t o price (f . sale by the Bank broker, whi c h dep resse d the Consols to 921 94 for money, and 923 921 for the acc ount _ Bank Stock, 167 16'14; India Stock,. 2471 2481 ; Exchequ er Bills, 37 39 premium. Foreign securities were rather flat, and the price of Belgian was rather lower, being 1911 1024 ; Dutch Two and a 11 , per Cants. w ere 53 53'.}; the Five per Cents, 101 1 01 V Danish, 801 811 ; and Brazilian, 67 63. Railway Shares were a shade lower, although some exten sive business was done in them. London and Birminghael, 90 92; Great Western, 52 ; the Half Shares, 14/ 15 l'r"; ; • Birmin g h am anti Gloucester, 52 54 ; South Western, 631 . Gosport, 631 64 ; North Midland, 64 66 ; the New Sho e ' . 31/ 321 ; South Eastern anti Dover, 30/ 315 ; East 9 t ' Counties, 9.1 10; Blackwall, 11 H 125; the New Shares , 10/ ; And Brighton, 364 365. The foreign Exchanges were not al favourable as on this day week. Hambro' 13 13; Amsterdam, 124} 12 44 ; „B ° "; terthin, 12 41 ; Antwerp, 12 41 ; Frankfo r t 1514 1514 ; r T ar k - , 25.80,25 83 ; Vienna 952 9 ; Trieste 9 53/ 9 54i ; '7• bon, 534 ; and Cadiz 361 365. The bonds are quoted: Portugue se Fi ve p er C en t s ., 37 . 37. the Three per Cents, 22 221 ; Colombian, ; Mexican , 33 ; Spanish Five per Cents., 235 234 ; and the Three r er Cents., 23 234. Some; further information has been brought to light ar: the subjt:et of the surreptitious issue of upwards of se st e rd millions sterling of the Three per Cent. Spanish Stock s ' a t bad as the statement may appear, it is greatly to be feared itt worse remains yet to be unfolded. To those who may bai t T oe to be unacquainted wi:h the trickery of Spanish finance, such es diselnsures m a y a pp ear exaggera t e d or d au b, ful, but to su e ,t. may have had expe r i e n c e, p ain f u l an d ex p ens i ve p er haps, o "; u, ;', will be perf e ctly c redible. Th e M a d r id G aze tt e o f the pea tilt., reported a speech made in the Cortes on the 25th, by . a i r Pedro Gil, in which in allusion to the contra c t w ith M. „ 5 manca laid before them, seventy millions of re a ls in 09° P n t i had been given by the Government to th..t gentleman a , 1 7 e , of the guarant ee f o r hi s a dvances. The se cou p o ns bs an % doubtless, been converted into stock by the several ageo ls, ar ,,s. the stock thus created found its way into this and other m". - .,„ The settling , it is to be lamented, will be a day long to be '- membered by many who have purchased these docunaents . COURSE 01" EXCHANGE—(YESTERDAY• I , Amsterdam CF. 12 755 Gibraltar ................• 4 " 0 i t, Ditto, at sight 95 95 Rotterdam ...... ...2 U.' 12 8 Genoa Antwerp 47 Hamburgh M.B. 14 0 Venice 40 Altona Paris, 3 days' sight ... 25 75 Palermo, per 0z.......... Ditto, 3 months 25 95 Lisbon Marseilles llourdeaux 26 0 Rio Janeiro ............... 2 7 Frankfort on Maine... 1524 Bahia Petersburgh, 3Us ... 364 Buenos Ayres Berlin.. • ht 4bi Vienna, effec. fl. 3M. 955 'Philadelphia 46 s• Trieste, ditto 9 56 Pluc E s OF BUL LIO N , PER 9 Madrid .5 Cadiz Bilbao ... 36 New Doubloons 0 0 s i , t kareelona. Seville 36 (Silver in Bars 0 4 II ----------- --- CHEAP PRO VISIONS. TO THE EDITOR OF THE suii, r , by üblie many (it' your r ea d e rs 1 11- copying from the Carmarthen Journal of hiw a Y pro the paragraph headed " The Weather, and Cheap visions." It is a positive fa. t that a family ca n liv l e In Pembrokeshire as cheap as in J ersey or France. ' t e l true wine, spirits, and tob acco ore c h eaper in the Clialln n d Islands and on the Continent, but then at 'Milford Laugharne fish, poultry, eggs, and meat, are c heaper coal, house-r e nt, an d scrrant ' s wages are less than blur' what is char ge d in Brighton, outhanipton, Bat h, Chel!enham. T. G. Port of Fishgnard, Pembrokeshire, May. 2. lo f [We have n u t rece i ve d Bic Carmarthen Journ a l Friday.] B IR TII S. On the 6th of March, on board the Conqueror, on her voyage to Madras, Mrs. Clement Dale, of a daughter. t Iti r • On the 3d inst., at Tredegar-place, Bow, the lady of J. Nyren, Eq., of a daughter. On the 3d inst., at the Vicarage, Cleobury, Mortimer, ShreP '' shire, the lady of E. M. Moultrie, of the Middle Tour Esq., barrister, of a daughter. Oil the , Ith \ inst., Mrs. Frederick A. Packer, Castle-street' Reading, 13crks, of a son. On the stli inst., at Penton-street, Pentonville, Mrs• rd' ward Iluckley, of a daughter. 111 ARR! ED. On the 4111 inst., at St. Mary's, Lambeth, John Lynn, .1 1 ,";; Esq , of Fethard, Wexford, to Emily Elizabeth, only da u g l' ' of Thom.is Ilariison, Esq., of South Lambeth. s tio On the 3d inst., at Evershot, Dorseishire, Charles Aug° t Smith, of Crooms, Greenwich, solicitor, to Anna, elrfr° daughter of Thomas Martyr, Esq., Greenwich. DIED On the 95(a ult , at Harwich, Captain John Wilkinson. , o f On the 30th ult., in London, George Ick, Esq., former* Antigua, a:zed 58. On the 3d inst., at Gloucester, Maria L ou isa, wife f 6 Browne, Esq On the 3d inst., at Brighton, Julin, On the 3d inst., at Rose-hill, C avers h am . Anne, e ' daughter of the late W. lnnes P ococ k , R . N ., age d 90. la te On the sth inst., at Bl ac kh eat h , M ary, re li c t of the Isaac Warner, Esq., aged 87. son of P. P. 1 31 Y th. %to t _O% 70 ,17 London: Printed and Published by MURDt) Y°, l- P N i, o. 112, Strand. a t 7'h r Su,. Office, No 11 2, .7""-a -the County of niddlesex, Saturday, May 7, 1842. S EVEIN ADVi ing Jai " NV lie ?" house Name " pal t Tu.a. br At t DAY: tertaini Tick, Music CO NIEN 1 HE Eve' , gran te,4 aeeuritii amount .. Apph I"(le at T P Place, IN Surgical open. l Oding, Guinea s Pro w , ° Y appli SIPS H AII Wednesd ANT) One A% OST} HAVI BOut C 41,41 BULI YAII: RAM; EDIN wurd ay, a le, 21, al NEW( at Eight. 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