The Sun. — London, England, 1855-05-23 00:00:00

_ . ~ TTIE su — ect 1.-...,, ...; _.,..,..) S . I . Ov - PON WEDNESDAY EVENING MAY 23 185 5, i , _ . -------- 1)---- ___ . . , IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT e Sir 11 HALL moved to sthike it ont in_ order , to intro- i resolution tbat the house should adjourn for the recess tinue to hold the trust WhiC4 has been committed into cause Of, the Parliamentary or other influence of their tend to eradicate or materially diminitsh the evils of which ( i --aud for a a unusua lly l o ng period - without some their halide, they need not be under any alarm, nem connexions. all were - aware, and which all at least professed to de- ' es. • duce into the bill certain portions of Hobhouse s Act. Agreed to. ' means being taken by which the Public may be re. n e ed the country be under any al arm , th a t an y peace - Mr. WISE expressed his satisfaction at the ventila. plore. Si n ce he entered the house that night a letter f HOUSE OF LORDS-OCESTERDAY.) aeitnated-by which we may obtain some mwe clear will ae ma-le which will not be honourable to the natien, tion which the question had inceived, and stated his' in- had been put_ into his hands, which afforded a small • Clauses up to 40 were agreed s to after a short dirus • e ss w . done ..a ve . .. ece lea od busine as • iii fair r i se d , and explicit idea 'of the actual position of the country and w bi o h - will not be calculated to a c complish these oh- . tention to withdraw the motion. proof of how things were still carried on. That letter • A rro . k Oats and oatmeal wore . _,..,, ~ y The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack sion. : On clause 40, providing for the inspection of. books by ! with reeard to the question of peace or war than we at i jects far the attainment of which we have entered upon Mr.H.BAILIE. however, objected to the withdrawal was written at the la-M, general election by a person of fbis day wee-- ' ' etreine quotatiouß. D 1 . int ., s _ at five o'clock. deed laA Tuesday s es. AMENDMENT OF THE CRIMINAL LAW. ratepayers, present possess. (Cheers.) I said that this was a ques- I the prewsnt contest. It is not from those who sit upon of the motion, and the house then divided, when there influenoelo an elector, and it ran in these terms :-" 1 real Sir H. WILLOUGHBY suggested that owners of time which principally affected the honour and also the these b"enchee that the acceptance of ignominious terms - were- . peas uualtere,d. e yi . In reply to Lord BROUGHAM, hould have th • . If you do not do that corn - I.s per qr. ses ee r qr. The LORD CHANCELLOR said that a bill was property, as well as ratepayers, s e right of ' reputation of the house. The house will perhaps recol- of peace shall proceed. I trust that no man in this For the motion ll2 , deslre you to vote for Mr. --. • uuderstaud you are' doubtful which way to vote, and I inspect i on ; and, after a short discussion, the suggestion i lect that in 1853 there were, he was informed, negotia- country, however much he may wish for eace-and Against ... 57 you leave my faiin." (Radical cheere, and cries of ---- - 2 l. trade ' prepared in reference to the amendment of the criminal of the hon. baronet was adopted, and the clause was tions of great moment then taking place, on the issue of Heaven knows every reasonable man m p • h f ust wis or an Majority —55 "Name" from the Conservatives.) No. he was not at . IPSWICH -MAY i t eof the • 801 l law, and hoped that it would be found on the table im- ordered to stand part of the bill. which the queation of war mainly depended. Under honourable peace-I trust, I repeat, that no man in this The announcement was received with loud cheers. liberty to give the name. (Oh, oh, aiid reeewed cries of A feir supply of wheat. The genera on ted lower. . __ co. mediately after the Whitsuntide recess. Clauses up to 46 were agreed to, with a. few Verbal these circumstances, great and natural as was the curio- country *he calls himself an Emelt h d h h a s man, an w o opes THE BALLOT. " Name.") But there was the original letter. It was was dull ; stili ptices can scarce y ' I be en° full Is per q uarter 164 i VaU . Lord LYTT.FLTON said it would be desireble that amendments. sity of the country to know it) what positioo it really was not to be regal ded as a degraded outcast, would lend th not a copy that he held in his baud. (Cheers.) The a ready side tor all kinds at 9 ats. w Mr. BERKELEY then rose to bring forward his an- s. . PER 4i as _, all the measures relating to the amernlmeat of the crimie On clause 47 being prnposed, the object of which was placed in reference to a contingency so awful, and d - fh• t t f - rea y sanction o. is name o ernes o peace such as the neht ' terms; which tee nobla lord (Sey moue) had used in epeak- Beans aud peas realised full pr ce . a ito u l° . nal law should be proceeded with without delay. to provide that all sewers except main se we r s should be -as were many members of this. house, in the fulfilment bon, gentleman has just indicated. (Cheers ) b nual motion in favour of the •ballot. He said he had • log, ot the retail dealers were, be thought, most offensive PER. Q uaitrEa.l _ . , ; „ g ... 2,1 ~.. 410 , 0 .16 Barley, mom , - 40, ''" ' The Bishop of LONDON presented a petition corn- under the management of vestries arid district boards, unquesConably of their duty, to obtain information from DIPLOMATIC ESTABLISHMENTS. been told that this was a disadvantageou s time for it, -at keit as offensive as the terms in which the hon. Wheat, red (01d)... 74s to 7 1 ....... ( , w eal _ • ea-s to -Cl3caus ....... __ . 0. plainino of the loss of fees by the premature closing of a Sir B. HALL said, that this was one of the most im- Government durine the ses;ien of 1853 on that important ' - bile men't3 tubule were suffering urder a series of victo- member ter Brasted was said_ til have spoken of the axes- Ditto (newe Mr. WISE then moie to move the following resolu- ' vs tail Ditto, white (new) L. ' 7ss te 33s1Peas .... ~ . . L . e ., .... vo bus btreal erreinel e . portant clauses in the bill. It had been introduced question-the house will recollect that it was total] iin- Pus dleasters. But never was it more iinportant to have 1 tocraey. For hie pet, he did not believe that •the re Ditto (old.)- -s to --spitto (will 2_ , _ .. . oe ,. ,to The Bishop of CHICHESTER .presented a similar a f ter great consideration, and he should refrain from possible to obtain an opportunity to discuss •,,th y at inepor. tien :-" That it is the opinion of this house that the ni • deatees of this country were, as a class, this cerrupt body teseFlour, per seem ... rr - • . b B .. Barley, malting' , ... 32s tore petition. saying one word on the subject until he had heard the taut question, because on all occesions th ose w e e were opinidn of our diPlotnatic establishnients, recom- , l . he people's cheice in Parliament than at present. . - nen of t . which the noble !reel repreeented thein to e. , ut it AVERAWIB Fon Tliii WEER E NDING ••-o s 10d . The Earl of HARDWICKE presented a petition in opinions of hon. members. anxious to obtain information and to invite the opinion mended in the report 'of the select committee of (Hear, hear.) And this ceuld not be under tee present they were, then all he could say was, that that consti -1309 quarters, at , Od , fay mr of closing public houses on Sunday!. Viscount EBRINGTON believed tbat the clause, if of the house on these important circumstances were eystem. To those who hated refOrm, the war,hael great tuted an additional reaeon fm adepting the ballot, which t Wheat i - . The Earl of WICKLOW' asked whether it was n carried, would be reductive of evil rather than good. informed that important neeotiati ins - e . t ware going , on 1850 oil • 1 1 • ma sa amen should be carried •into'effect." ' charms as a seasonable relief.. But with sincere reformers would very much remove frOm them the templation of Oats 20 , , 434 7 " M 6 l ic i i ? ii :c , ,e • e g. t i t 7 : 2l i l i Al t: T a . r t mr B . ll el e - 1 or,i f w,c u ae l . , l urs. . ih .4 ~ p r . r . i It. c v e ata g ;o o ; 44s ed - tended, after the proceedings of the previous evening, to (Hear.) It would p have the effect, in the first instance, on, and that remarks male in taie house might have a The honeumble member said that the first proposition ' ' which the committee in' question had made was that Peas Bears -prevent peers leaving the house after a division had been of an enormous increise of the staff of officers, and there- very injurious effeCt on the course of our diplomacy. t n li i i e e:nismanagement of the war created a stronger argu tin favour of referm. (Hear.) Tire barmier:s dams- yielding to corrupt itilluences. (Hear.) Barley ..... , 139 ti . • called I by considerably increase the rate of taxation. He area%) The house will recollect in what the forbearance the missions at Paris and Conetantinople ehould Mr. BENTINCK thought the hon. gentleman ought --- A conversation here took place, in the course of which thought the only course to be adopted, with any effect, of the who had written the lettim be hail quoted betore he van to have been in a'position to give the indrne dt the party, • miLL-31Ay 22. ' ev ef Lord REDESDALE said the practice ot the house House of Commons ended. There was silence be made first-class missions. He deemed it to be ex. . ters, and failures which had occurred in our various de would be to place the direction of the drainage undtr during the whole of that session, n o t wi th s ta n di n g th e tremely desirable that we should have an ambassador at ' pammene3 had risen first from the Government haying t - • • • ured to reaa it to toe house-(ebeerm- ecause, As t le was to have the doors locked during a dishision. The the central boerd. anxiety of the country, and the result was that we drifted. Paris, inaamuch as it wag necessary that our representa- become hereditary in a fevr great families. (Hear, hear.) matter at present stood, they were left in doubt whether Englieh wheat. Foreign moderete. iger e it Gore standing orders were imperative on the . subject statine ', , - Lord R. GROSVENOR considered that if the house into scar. (Hear.) The country faund it ee lf engag ed i n tive at that court should have interviews with the Som. . e - There were changes of Ministries but not of systems. the writer was one of the " bigotted Tories" who had Is below last Tuesday. 1 , genre , L l i n l e d that no peer should, after h q tee uestion was puv, leave r , m reiecteu tee proposition of the hen. baronet, and placed a vast and perilou3 war without the satisfaction of Lay- reign of that country-a sovereign who at the preeent , . been described by the hon. member for Bristol, or °ire value of all spring c _. urn Barley Is t iess mg uest• . eg Pr the house until the votes had been taken, or that the , One set of aristocrats • went out ... L , - st trhOss " and another ' Bytes in the management of the sewers in the hands of a central lug a clear idea of the object lor which we e n tered i n t o ,.. moment took a great iitterest in our affairs. But, how- . ' of the pure Liberals who eat on the other Fide of the 's end Dari ls to es. ' : i . , the week. Cakes ea:i e house had proceeded with some other business, dearer, fully ls to 2s dunue 0. board, the worst re3ults would follow. war, and a humiliated and dePressed feeling Prevailed •ever sorry he Might be to uudermine exieting arrange. , " gaudentes" came in. (Laughter.), Ono set said when e ea 11 house. (Czteers and lau Alt ) T' e noble lerd . ten s • ~_ "'s dd to 5s per • EARL GREY'S RESOLUTIONS ON THE Sir W. CLAY was of opinion there was but one among the people, that their representatives had never ments in connection with our. embassy at Paris, he must we come in then you shall see-what you shall see ! tile member for Totties had talked of the difficulty bones quotations rose t h .to , VIENNA CONFERENCES. . s sI . , en d black ; tot • course to be Pursued, that of supporting the measure, ma,de a. single effert to obtain the-necessary information. call the attention of the lic'etie to eur preeent expendi. (Laughter.) Then, when - they came in, what did we see ? of inducing voters to go to the poll, and the hon. mein- Tileat, Englis , h red 78 to 79ireas, gr e -' --- . sea... Lord LYNDHURST wished to ask the noble earl and leaving the manaeement of these sewers under the (Hear.) I may say that years have really passed. We ture in connection with. that mission. Our embassy at Jobbery, red tape, and routine. (Hear, and laughter.) ber for Beverley had ascribed that difficulty to a .‘ b - • ' I The market Was well att,ehnedeci(l)l,danwilebajulter ini_ j a _ ill tto white opposite (Earl Grey) what course he meant to pursue direction of the bon haronet. system of intimidation wbich prevented them giving • d a • Ditto PetersTgar eh " . 0 find now that we are involved in a struegle of the larg es t the court of 1 1 : n arp t n h o e w e z e t ns t e h g e o r lio Lu a s b e o t : r t ex ?.:,:m The people were fully alive to the atrocities of the eye with respect to the motion which stood in his name for Mr. H. BARINq complained of powers being given character. We find, at the same time, that we have Per annum,. their votes. He was satisfied that if the matter were in- berg Tee eitostmastilol- e.' ? ' " j r : s b° th u e 6 Dantzie an wonms- Friday neat ; whether he meant to deviate from th e by this clause to the district boards that should be vested been engaged for a long time in negotiations f or p eace , 1,000/. a year itr addition• The hotel in which ou r am - select her advisers from a few great families, because tern. The cause was apparent. The Queen could only quired into it would be found that intimidetion had not Pomeranianandllann I peel .. .. ; .. e . ..... a _, _ t0.... course vehich he had intended to pursue, in conse- only in the metropolitan board. • We find these negotiations cetried on bY the same clia- bassader resided in Paris hail cost originally 30,00 a, and we hail since spent upon it an amount which made they monopolised place and power ; and tittle not only the effect of preventing voters recording their votes. burgh 100. I Bleinel ............. ..), 1 , ni q uence of the scene of the Previous night, o f w hi c h h e m e . H. WILLYAMS supported the views of the noble raetere, in the same city, and under the influence and in- Danish,Holstein, and 1 tO l / 1 Mr. P. O'BIZIEN reminded the house, in•considering e od ,al . believed the noble earl was a spectator ? lord (Lord Ebrington), who, he hoped, would divide the spiration of the same Court. (Hear.) The result, Of the the Ministers of the Crown, but the leaders of our fleets a total' of 87,000/. Our embassy at Constantieople was and armies were chosen, net for merit or ability, but this question with r ference to Ireland, that they must Friesland GB to 1 1 , 1 1111/15. , g Earl GREY said he most undoubtedly was a spectator committee on the question. negotiations of 1853 covered the whole of that session. also attended with an enermous amount of expenditure. beeause they belonged to the " great families," who ry there was a compu sory not foreet that in till um t i ' , • fi tor. •• . i 0 y 28 to 3e,Ditto ne r. et Os Ud• poi 06 Eoglish of the scene to which the noble and learned lord had ad- eeMe. LABOUCHERE preferred the scheme proposed It muzz!es the expression of opinion in this house, and The embamsy cost 10,000/. per annum, and our diplo. were able to rnake or mar a ministry. (Hear, hear.) a . . ' I ' ld I system of reeistration and that tac voter cou no onger Oats, Ditto Danish verted. He could not say he was an edified spectator, by the President of the Board of Health to that sug- lowers its conduct and character. The result of that matic and consular establishments altogether about Those great families had desperate fights for place, . . e r . , escape being placed on the register. Ditto Friesland (Laughter.) He could only further say th a t h e was gested by Lord Ebrington. It would have been more silence was not that we assisted her Majesty's Govern- 40,0001. a year, besides 12,000/. which had been ex. but on all points connected with their monopoly of , _ . _ b e e nt P arle a ru d•f •R • Mr. IoLAND stud he could read a letter an 1 neces- Ditto ussian :3.ala:att. iv.....e..... ..... 61 , ; t o ow . el, ~, E n glish ...... egi , t .. t riot at present aware of any sufficient reason for post- satisfactory to him had the districts been fewer in inent in their efforts to secure peace, for war was the Pended last year for the purpose of erecting a ne w b u ild- power they were united as one man. (Laughter.) H Russian and Odessa 2 thi s t t o o e3Bo,:inarso.ec.l,:ens...,:ot a ss l o e s i i t' 0 ,.,, :5, poniug the motion of Which he bad given notice. If, consequence. The character of the house was lowered, number. iCuognasLiZtpait ( l , t ; in h o o p , l i v e e . ver T , Ditto grinding 3l to 34,Ditto foiel,„ _.... ~_ st , ii. , 7 7 8 8 . t t o o 8 8 2 4 i D iii i.:;o ecd ß ' i 42 to 46'Griano ...... U gh lli d's og to - , 5; 0 any reason could be shown why he ought not to bring Sir B. HALL said the division of the metropolis into and the object of the Government was not obtained. mans ;f or % o em eo ll u a n 9s t y ry !it a there were only places . enough, Whigs and Tories vary name the writer, which would sl , iow t'llat•la= Barley, malting ...... e ) 0,1 D i it forward he would be prepared to consider it. - districts had been fully considered: He had to deal The consequence of the forbearance of the house was, more extraordinary amoent of expenditure than was in. fraternising with politica,' rats. (Great laughter.) Peo- in his hand was foul a member of that house t.. curred in connection with the hotel at Paris. In 1841 it P would become a " hanpy family" - political cats in Ireland did coerce their tenants. rho letter o his ten. p Ditto foreign ...... ..', P The Earl of DERBY said he -did not mean to sug- with an area divided into every conceivable form and that we drifted into what I must cell a disastrous war. gest any course to the noble earl; but, he had understood '.3 ape, an ap a eg , and t e estunate le were sick of this system-sick of sorry gmerals, ant in Sligo, and it iiiformed him that. the waiter always h dda t new 1 islaiion as far as - ossible to Now it appears to me that there is a great probability had unfortunatelet been burned down h ' selected from the "Red Book," and IVlinisters from regretted when he had cause to coinplain of his tenents, fh•d • • P f h th t . t . t'll d• -• ' - - for ebnildin •h.l b lal it Burke's Peerage." There had been an inquiry, which but that the Roman Catholic prieets bad keen so active „ s eer. . it. It was true that the whole o t e ramage ot e e nego ta tons s t procee mg, the same circumstances r git a• een at at 30,000/ , bet the total yesT. • a that he postponed his motion in order that it might not forth and successful in severina tenants from them landlords COURSE OF EXCHANGE. - ...... so Jo interfere with the ver ' d . ' h . h h d y important iscussion wic a metropolis under one board had failed, and the question still being in existence, the same characters beiog em sent moment, to epwarde of 8G,650/. That sum had expenditure-in connection with it amounted, at the pre- had concluded its labourn and was about to bring ..:' I ho did 1 t t .•••• Peas,- white and...............................ye1. 42 to 45, ( Rye Meal mem. . was, what boarde shc,uld be constituted afs most ployed, the same city being the scene of action-that if been expected in the other house and in order that when isb ton er to confirm° his con- Ditto, three months .. 12 0 , , Legtor • •"• a report. But what was to prevent that inquiry from tbat he could not suppott t iose w 10 supper e le m en t = .. .. „ „11 183,4 Gieralta n r:: .. .. .. ..... • :•, 2 3 , 0 desirable and the plan he suggested he had endeavoured ' the consequence of our forbearance was that we drifted been raised by an expenditure which had been incurred going the way of all inquiriesi? It might result in a him, and that he did net w g ~ , , .. Rotterdam ............ 12 0 lii Genoa ..... ....... h.. .. , it came on tie might have the advantage of the prestige ' (" Name. ) Ihe Dame of the Antwt,rr, .............. 25 42 , 4 ) , 11 ,,„ .....• • .....,.. 44 , to make as useful for the purpose it was intended as pos- into a dieasteous war, the consequence of our prolonged Y asa e o lugs w iich demanded revision, and into ear After year, arid it was his opinion that it indicated which would no doubt have accompanied the develop- ' He also held in his hand sible Th lio f l• •1 f b I; • - t t f th . 'I " e popu at n o the metropo is was two mil- or earance may e that we shall drift Into a peace- ' t with the petronage of "the great families" it writer was Mr. Ormsby Gore. , . t e l r g ef r i ephrt, and possibly in some measure ; but if it nection with the tenant. ments in the debate elsewhere, as well as of the division „ ' • ' tell had been served on-a tenant since ilambargh ...1........ 13 8 , Naeles .. ........• e 1 32 4 would fell. Lately there was a splendid instance of a uotice to qnit wh . , ._ ~..._ ... ...... , 3 which would have occurred, and he would suggest to "" s ad a I lalf ' a n •nd considering that popnlation was perhaps an Ignominious peace. (Hear, hear.) We which some inquiry should be made. Now, with refer- lis.ttitegrrif bowel' his rent he was told Alfons ~ •• ........,... - rei . , , ,ee' ... ...... .. • 5 ' j , , , increasing, be did nnt think the number of boards pro- are in a few days to adjourn fir a period of relaxation, ence to the question of' having ministers or am b le . getting rid of a "popular clamour"-how the "good the last election for Cevrin o t , 0 ' d Pari5‘........ ........ 25 20 • 111es.lia ........ ~ „ , ..... him that similar motives to those which induced him to ad been served 25 47% Lisbon .• .............. ~.. Ditto, three months .. postpone his motion till Friday should now lead him to posed would be found too many under . the cir- of unusual duration at this time of the year, and under seders at ' foreign. courts, he must observe that he Lord Aberdeen" bad cried for chanee, :rid eveay mem- ha•l been paid for which the notic b . Brussels .............. 25 42% V.enice... .. . ... . . ... ........ 13.1 , 4 Marseilles :............,„ 25 47 Oporto ... • • ..... ..... . cumstances. Each board would represent an a,ve- circumstances full of danger to the country. Rio Janciro• ..... ..... cOnsent to a further postponement. We knew of no g,ood reason why we should h ave an m ae . her of his Government had his handkerchief to hie eyes He had alee been tom that, 500 nbtieee to quit had been rage of from 60,000 to 80,000 inhabitants. If were told last Riga among the many ambi- sailers in preference to miehstere. Prussia was acknow- F,ankfort-ou Maine .• .. 119% ' Buenos ....,, o days sli, . , Earl GREY said that in consenting as he had done what did it all a One to? A "Corruet Practices at Dec- ( Nesbitt. weeping for the depravity of mankind. (Laughter.) But served in that County, signed by Lord Farnham and Mr. Boardeaux .. • ........ - i tyr o.. •• ,• 1 3 , Rerun ...... .... .. - New Yola hl u a i ..., ...• • , 0 oo g he peeve the district boards the power of forming dratns goons deolaretions tint • were made taat the con- le lged 'to be universally successful in' . her diplomatic herore to a PostPoneneent, be bad Dot been influenced b h ' ' e-. '' i V• c ' • ' ' ' roceeeinae d s h e h a d ne e at/ Th ee : r o ars , b ut a est _ c i ssa ti ins Thll," whieh would de nothin to - prevent brihery. Sir S. BIGNOLD said, allusion bad be - en made to the r:eilaa•• •• •• •• •••• -•• 12 40 P n a , V, P , oF stra! v c :' . ; ,I , 1 0 7 if e e must also give them pewer3 to carry them out, and erence at ientla. though it was closed, had. Lot abso- P . _ • ~ an ministers. An embassy was admittedly productive of oy any personal considerations. It was strotgly repre- these owers were not more arbitrary than those now Intedy ceased to exist, and mieht be re- oned at am• e The true remedy mai the ballot. The evi lance collected city which he represented, and that he merely wished to 'rrlaste•• •• ..... '••• • • • 12 35 ' 2 , 4 1 Foi ; cign Go ti iii 1- ,, s . ,i 1 o li Belated to him that those who took an interest in the by the Balla Society from var i o unh or m ig hs i n the king- etaeo, with reference to the epeestion3 •as to bribery and V e tt :an'''. -•• - - - •. 4 . 0',L ' rortee.ai Mee tr.tirsia..... ~ p oa, ureater expense than Was connected with a minister. existin p g in the city of Lohdon, having studiously avoided ment's notice. It may happe'n that we ° l P nay re-assemble , 1 , . . ‘ . .. , . .. I , . . , . •• •• •••• • • • giii I geg , es „ p o lls ... 9 5 10 , There was about an embassy more of- firm tlnd more of subject in the other house thought it would be disa.dvan- wenn siewed that since the passing of the Cotrupt 'ham intimidation, thee tae informatton whice the hon. mem- tainz .• 516 , y e ll 0 w 5 I a ( L6idEdUiv[lai jEne,Ttedit_Baps inp,oyhrb:ottneldujn:m. adding a,nything to them. From the various returns to hear that peace has beea obtained upen terms that New Pollan; •• • . I tageoue to them if he brought it forward, and having Barcelona ~.......... - , , din ig .,., . ..• made to him, be found there were 1,500 miles of streets may not be satisfactory to the people of this country. etiquette than it was necessary that 3 minister should ob- . tices at Elections Bid bribery and intimidation existed Ler for Bristol had relied on from Norwich was without tile •• - ••- • • • - i N11V4., . understood that they were predetermined to introduce it, to as great an extent as ever. He had, on the laet oc- the slightest foundation. ,He had polled 3720 votes. in the metropolis and 934 miles of sewers; consequently What will be their feeling that the forbearance-again serve. Thare was necessarily mare dinners. (A laugh.) --- he, with great reluctance, and against his own opiaion, _________ there were 566 miles of streets without sewers, and that rePeated-of their representativeS has led, in their opi- Sir H. Seymour, whose n'ame he should mention casino of bringing this subject beore the house, ex- Hi s niajerity comitianced from the firet hour, aial went with great respect, had Stated in his evidence before the P • - 7 consented to postpooe his motion. toted the fallacy_ ot calling the. elective franchise a on increasing. He believed he owed his return to the SEABORNE MA 115 ' under a system of centralisation. (Hear, hear.) 'That nion, to a disgraceful peace ?It is imposeibie to deny that Lord LYNDHURST said he unlerstood that it had distance comPrlsed 306 , 000 houses, and consequently there is in this country a feeling of dissatisfaction and committee that' he had no idea of a man's being a good " trust." A brilliant example of the futility of what was simple fact that he had been an active citizen of Norwich been stated Vila some negotiations at Vienna were still they might reaeonably come to the conclusion there were distrust at the ambieuous•conduct-et the - amibieuous or 'diplomatist who did not give eood dinners: (Renewed called " open voting" had occurred .at the late election for the last 40 yeare. (Hear.) ' from the Ge n ..........e -, • • (N SigniflSS that the mails are sent Itch.) * pending, mid that it would be contrary to the public in- or e coun y o even. 150,000 h . • • ' • ' I ' ' ' ' ' I h ) NI • Ile l'' f th t fC• At that election. stones were -m a ouses without sewer 3 either in their front mtner, wouhl say, at the uncertain lauguage of the aug ter . _ow i tat statement were correct, he (Mr. . BURROWES said tbat alluston had been made ey the night-and Mby the morning- 40 If s , , W To terest tor any discussion to take place until those nego- or at their back, by which they might commun i ca t e Government with reference to these negotiations for Wise) was afraid that the Russian ministers bad given not used, as ia the case of St. Stephen, but a leaf bad witb regard to the roasting of a certain individual in tee no , tat , me g a, tiations were closed. He was very desirous of knowing with a drain, and that was such a s t a rtli ng f ac t peace. I believe that this feeling of dissatisfaction and better dinners than the representatives of England. heen taken from the martyrdom of Cramer and Ridley. county he bad the honour to represeot, but he could not Dari when mate et 2.1.- 1,,:t , 1 5 ' ,.- 1.••• what was the state of those negotiations. that it was his duty to press this mea3nre. He found distrust exists also in this house. lam persuaded that The second resolutionof thecomrnittee referred to having A refractory voter bad been roasted until his ribs had , dismtver the least foundation fir the story. Ile ehould COUNTRIES. In General Post-_ ~ ,.1 0, ,. . ..„., _ °Mee, London.* nisi '''' . !_e_....-- ..- ~5 ..$ Earl GRA.NVILLE said his noble friend (Earl Grey) there wa,s one street in the parish of Marylebone, con- it is OUr duty, before v i e adj o urn for the recees, to take a mission at Frankfort, am: to the abolition of the'mis• been completely " done"- (laughter)-but still his deeply regret if any such barbarity had occurred in the ......--- E i --.------- ee l • • 1 Who witeeesed the scene of the previous evening must b e taining from 60 to 100 first class houses, where there means that it shall not be laid to the fault of the slops at Hanover; Stuttgardt, and Dresden. Frankfort vete had not been tortur ed out of him. Three hundred county he represented or in the county to which he be -----7- tvw E ' Friday .• .. Liverl ~ , ' Amerlea(byltrit.pae , Nery _,, Y 3 ' at learn as abie to answer the' noble and learned loru as were only two houses in it that communicated with the house if that uneertainty and ambiguity longer re- the first Emperor Napoleon had regarded as the window men, tenants of Sir J. Young, came to the rescue of the 1 zono•ell. The hen. Member had asserted that if Lord A.MeriCP k by United S , s. Llverlw`" . . . e , hirirself. It was not true however, that the negetiation s eewer. So far as he had been able to ascertain, the imin. (Hear, hear) It ie :for these reesons that I from which one marat look out upon the whole of G,fe- Drrhyite candidate ; but would they have so come had, Aberdeen hail been minister Sir J. Young. would net eacama •••••• •• - •• 1• .... .. .P '' than22 o3 i , 0 at 'Vienna were closed. ' The Government was open t o ground landlords and middle m3n of the metropolis were have taken the fir s t r t • .1 tl k illaeY• and in hie (Mr. Wise's) opieion we sheuld insure ipper inoty ave.* a,etome to as Sir John Yeutter at that rnoment been in offiee under au have directed his tenarits to vote for Lord Derby. He kmerle3 (b ' Y U. . States .....--- S‘w l 4,-eif . packet) ..........N ainteL' -I receive any proposition which might lead to a safe and anxious that this measure should pass. the oninien of the ;Muse on this subject-to ask them t , every purpose. of diplomatic convenierice in Germ iny if Aberleen Administration ?• (A laugh ) The CaVar! could state that Sir J. Young did hot in arty way interfere eustralia (via South- southe-' ,1 . . . honourable peace; and they would, on. the other hand, •Viscount EBRINGTON was not anxious that the te give their opinion on tee cotiduct and language of the we were te have mieisters at Frenkfert, Vienna, aed electien affor !eil a epecitnen of the unvarying influence te : war, his tenants, but allowed them to vote as they thought ampton) ..........M **•.‘ ....,.. D o ver •• •' I ov als decline auy terms which they thought might lead to a whole subject of drainage should be under one board, Government with respect to the greet question of peace Berlin. He recollected having read tbat the number exercised by the landlord over the tenaet•-an influence proper. A greet majority of them had supported him. Ditto (via Marseilles) , Nl ..... - . Ir 6 ••• - N O Ditto (via cape or condi „ th . contrary result. The conferences, he repeated, w e r e lint the proposition of the right bon. baronetleft them no or ware and as so much ambiguity has prevailed, alid as of desoatches which - hash been received at the Forei,zn by which 300 men were moved about like so many au- ‘ Dr MICHELL eaid that if the hon. member would . Ho e) ... -NI ..... •••• '• i meoe-- ' not closed. It was for tbe noble earl hanteit to co n - alternative in consequence of the arbitrary manner in there has been so many alarmin r- - t • 1 - • e ins antes o equlvccal Office in the yeat• 1829, had amounted to 29.000, tematens. Like every other great landlord, Sir Jelin . , , .e words into his motion to make votlng by ballot &I - ma es iroi . eue . •' ' • • ' P (IV .. 7 &bit) „Wad of the month - P v-•-• . , ....., ' '4 It qt of a, • DOvei - to e Bider, and he (Earl Granville) should be the last p er . which he haa made out his dietriets. They must either phrases and condnet-that the house should take some apd he was not aware Oat the countr d • i Young was a political monarch over iii•• tenaetry. 1° y erive any Alexandria .......... , 14,4, 9, ~ . ~ tow ,* applicable to divisions in that house there would be no . eo m ere emote et mote l s° ~,,,,eiii r in g son to point out to him what courp his sense of his give the reenag.ernent to one board or to the different step which would at least show that there is no uneer- considerable advantage from those voluminous coin- " Vote for " Derby !" " Vote for Aberdeen!" says Sir . . . . . . ArertE.n- a•••••••••• • o,,casion for him to divide against the motion of the hon. zi a r iama ......„ „ ..51,17th of e th monthlSoter, .. ~ 6 .. - Dover 7 ) ,',„,i il ' a j i,..lo l public duty would lead him to take. He made no ap- vestries and district boards the right hon. gentleman tainty in their canduct-that there has been no change mnnications. The committte also advised thet there John YOung-it WWI all the same to them :•-• member. If he did not awry this vote he' would Move, Belgium .••••• • • • • • ' Nil 'ai h iY fili:e ;;;ith•. Souttr u ,; , 0' 'so" - peal to the nobie earl on the part of the Government ; had pointed out. He preferred the adoption of the in their opinion, and that they are prepareil to conti nue should be no mission at Florence, and he did " Whichever your Majesty may please to name- moon after the Whitsuntide recees, for a committee to in- 13razil ...............111 1 9t 0 , 0nt ,,,, F outh ,o or ,i Buenos Ayres ........3t 9 th 0 . we in ' var ious It i all he could say was, that her Majesty's Government first course as the least bad of two ba;l alternatives. to support her Majesty in this war till she obtains for • not think that so male , smallenissions as we had at pre Long cut, or short cut, 'tis all the same." quire into the !system by which patrotiage was distri- capeof does Hope ~N toe' ' would be prepared to meet the question wheuever it (Hear.) He preferrld the matter being considered by herself and her allies a secure and honourable peace. sent were oeeessery either in Italy or in German T ' s '• °e ( laueh ) He (Mr Berkeley) repeated there was no buted by the Government in ehat house. The hon. Cape of Good Hope ..N ontl , Sou ' thainP ' • might be brought forward. one set of hands to 36. (Cheers.) I thought it due to the house, after what oc- next point upon which tbe committee had pronounced an ‘ A. A ‘.- r . ' 1,, ' . c t:' ' 't- . ' b I ' lli • h h teofm ir emee rot. sum, a state or tongs out secret voting. mem er cone tiem -y moving, tatt e voe., em ers Cape de Verds .....:N 9th of the e'i •' .0. 4 ' so Lord LYNDHURST said the noble earl had stated Sir. H. WILLOUGHBY thought the 47th clause curred last niebt, and cansidering the short tirnnwe opinion related to dipl oma ti c salaries., and these tley had r a es 3' " • ) Voting in in that house be taken by way of the ballot. Ceylon (see India) 5 ve on, ~ ( ear, hear, from the Radicaa perty Cee10n..............N eoliths 0, rio that the confereeces were not closed. Were any nego. would not work well, and he must therefore give it a have, to give this public notice of my intention. I shall deemed it desirable should not exceed 5,0001. per. annum. ' t, ld not be • man and not There bein no se ode 1 e motien fell to the ground. Channel Isles........N!Mon.,Wed.,&Frlii!, ,itham pt 3 secre tog cowardly in the poor g e n r, t 1 Chili- .............MIV 9 . 1 7 ft '''' -I '^ ,'. '' tiations going on ? (Hear.) Had anY ProPoeition been decided opposition. . in the cnurse of the evenin,g lay on the table the eesOln- Now, so far ea Paris and Constantinople were r d conce ne , co•vardlet in the rich. (Hear ) The questlon Was mak- , Sir J. FITZGERA.LD supperced the motion, and aim , 'Once ain elite ••• • e ver ~.• • • 0 01 made by either of the five powers ? and if so, was that Lord SEYMOUR could not understand wh tb y ese ' ti he was not exam ons which I hope the house will adopt, and whic wi -ly prepared to coneue in that view of • ' h •11 ina steady progress, a thoue some ew in ivi I h f ' & "dual mem- instanced cases at his own election by which voters -- "” • '8 13 18 %a 6:2150 , ,i , V , bam ptol , 1 g l- . were Constantinople ........, , • , • on ..p u t ~ proposition still under consideration`, or had it been re- 33 districts had been found necessar d 1 d f yan se ecte or embody the views I have attempted to express. I know the - question, but he mainteined that we should in every be'rs h 1 . ' k lel th• t tht k'd dd•• - d ' d t . ' th • -c..ti ie Am teeote ate -,„ ...- 4 .,e0Y -se ratted from it ; but it was remar a.e A fq 1 nappe an intim aee o vote ageinst eir con- ,ensten nee ......•., . . .., ..... e . Do% I' / fr jected ! Was there a probability of any further proposi- the.purpose of carrying out the object of this clause. that to obtain an opportunity I must appeal to the indul- way eodeagour to lessen our expenditure, althott h h g e changed their opinionn when they changed their consti- sciences. ccia. of Europe lif & N r ! yice dar y . ~ a , tion being made end „., had tee Government made up its 'Sir B. HALL had taken the 36 districts because th gence and kind assistance of geutlemen who have a pre- wail Tar from thinking that the members of th •• • . e j arnor tuencies Lord Panmure had no better reasen azainst _ Egypt -(see India) Lord ,PALMERSTON said he ehould be sorry if his Franco .... .... Ai & N Twice daily .. •• • • Dove' "'ton r s„,utlo , hiP I • o r i 6 class of the eli mind as to the period at which the conferences should be • • cY yious right on Thursday. ' I understood from the noble • Ploniatio service were at present overpeal. Gibraltar .... M 4, 7, 17, 20, 27°. 0 ' 03 1 were parishes sole, and had not been incorporated ll .th th der ihe E ror of the French the ba ot an at un t t mpe hon. friend the meinber for Bristol were to imagine that ••"•" i „eamP t° • o i closed? These were he sub • • , mated, important considera- lord that we are to go into a committee of supply on (Hear.) Our diplomatic expenditure since the' year 1840 Greece Mee Mem) i under the Poor Law Act. In ado tin that course he h)-and Sir George (4rey de , had been eleeted-(a laug . . . ez rem of mon. SO 0 ., ....• g ti i tions. He had never heard anything more vague than • p g , Thursday, not to vote public money, but that hen. mem- had amounted to 3,000,000/ be' ~ ing pn avera e ot_ increosing virtue he had convinced him, by his very amusing though not Greytewn .... ...... M i 2nd , „ gong Lon e mar ,1 i thoughteveryone would admit that if he bad not ado ,cl 214,000/. Per annum. Our di l • g eared it to be unnecessary, from the Haineurgh ..........NiTuesday & ,r - ~. ma i-Wee . . p v i the statement of the Government on this subject. 1 3 -e- bers who wish to call aittentio to • fa t • n e n . unpor n questio s , p omatic and consular here thnt inereas- Very argumentative spe3ch, that the ballot wa,s necessery. flavannah ..........ml2ad of the ri10 0 ' 1 : '., - -7 0 ,, e r ..• • o: ',„ 20 a e .)O a sound, at least he had come to a, rational, conclusion. ma b • • ' of the npper classea (A laugh.) NV ' The subject then dropped. y ave 3.0 opportunity of so doing. I believe the hon. establishments] together had since that time cost the • o ,itl • b. ---42.---- or al i !og:4l° [buena ............miDaily....•••••-,•,.:,,0weP .. 1 4 AI The clause was then agreed O. THE FIBRE COMPANY BILL. member for Aylesbury has given notice of a motion, •no country 4,677,0001., which gave an average expenditure m e poi tea . vit he was to be found it was difficult to In the few words he meant to address to the house 11E! amly -t I , ad not shown itself at the last elec- Ci t• 44,., 1-, r:, i 4 ie.. .eot oe seethe expose himself to the reproach he bee India (vlaSouthampt.)Ml4th & 20th of mo ru,"i r .. 10 01 The Earl of HARD WICKE moved the sus ' pension ot ~ On clause 48 being proposed, doubt of great interest, for that day. Of course 'I have for those two services of 334,000/. yearly. The saY. Cert ' ' re were ~ tion • on tke contrary, bribery and corruption seemed India (via Mars Do v,• • 0 „ S' ~ 1 , 2, often beard made by the advocates of the ballot . , that standing order No. 176, in order that this bill might be Sir B. HALL said that all the clauses, from the 47th no right to express a wish that the hon. member sliould also expenses in connection with the purchase of pl t ' - ae t to here been as rife as tver When he Net addressed lonian Isles (see indiaue, 17, &27 of tiol.T "' t oil S. ' read a first time. He said he knew nothing of the - pro to the 70th, had been adopted from local existing acts ; give way to me, nor can I presume to press him for a which were very considerable. With reference to what ' • . those who oppose it did nothing but reproduce old ar- Ireland . ...... •M & N Twice o b le ll a e the house, the noble lord now at . the head of the Govern- daily •.,.• •• ee „eierne.,_.,, , i s Lisbon .. ..m 7,9, 17, &270 f nu eu ntros epw. 3 l 4 f moters, except tha,t their object was to carry out a new and such beirrg the case he thoug,ht that they would re - moment to do so. All I can say is, that if the motion. of V.:P.3 terzued " secret diplomacy,”_ he non,t say that, in i 4. • d gu t men s. He, however, believed that those arguments Medeirl:::..::::::..M 9th of the month t i o verpo ol ..• invention for the manufacture of paper. From 1840 to quire but little discussion. Thursday, I the hon. member is brought forward and disposed of on e t: o n n a l d p i h g e e h 04 e1 ., b p his opinion, the country knew too littlb of 'th ' t • 0.,e eaes- • 4, . s e " • • cheer from the were in themselves conclusive. The demonstration of a e t inza F at or ir ei t g h:t offi rlo c c;m ha e d nt: e -h en ich m h d a.d st.)- °Bl ' ' P ment, who had alwaye voted agaanst the ba 10 0 accuse . . , •• Honduras .......... 81117,th Of the m0nt0n.a,,,,„,,uth....1 him of exa 6 ger..Alon, (An ironical .. . . . 185 4 the consumption of that article increased from Viscount EBRINGTON said that the only effectual will still attempt, • before the adjoiirnrne.nt actions in which its interests were deeply involved ; nor Vet " .... 1 1 p 'thin ) flow with the election of 1852 before his roposition of Euclid which was also canclusivd might be Malta (see In " ) . reel" ninety-six millions to one hundred and. saventy million course of drainage was te • turn. it into streams, aria for the holidays, to ask the house to adopt a resolution equally complained of. He thought that publicity and the Madeira ......, .: .... vi ,9 2 t 3d iet o e f e in th o o n ( th ine rri. n .o t 0 1 ' 1)° ` e• . • • " 'es O. , - Malta ..............N p, 18, &28 of in i a 1 pounds per annum, and there was great difficulty in sup- uch as thet I have in&cated end whic i h een drawn u in - 1844 an ' - thereby accomplish that which was the intention of na- s. n - i , • hwll t nd . to . . P , d %inch had so long eemained vi dicate the honour of P el' ' d eyes : he d could make that charge, he was at a loss to un- ,. Mauritius (see India) I Jul ersian . e no e Th bl 1' d d or ma e, on that occasion, a . . . m eal) ,e 00" IVlanritius ..........N il4 thof the „,, -sos. • ~. • 01 plying an adequate supply. It had been recently dis- ture-namely, to make that a fructifier which was at a 'amen y. . ..,. ae " poolopoohing" speech, which it was rather difficult to responsibilit of üblic o in•ci • e y p p i n wet e the o reat principles mesteo . ......... ..el One of the moro•!:•:,„ v er •• • too ;ef• covered that flax was an article which could be used in Present a cause of disease. (Hear, hear.) Mr. LAYARD-I cordially concur in all the sentt . public we sh , ould have been bet,ter prepargd. either to lan t o h s e u n c t c i ess than Was at present the case. (Hear.) The of our representativelnstitutioni. He held that the privi- NaPlos-.•••- ..•.....N sthisth2sthofraLn •L',..„,,, t hairP .; vrS nth ev . 0 port the manufacture of paper ; the fibre which reniained Sir J. SHELLEY thought the drainage of the inetro- ments to which tbe right hon. gentleman who has just a l , v v i ert war, "ear, having entered upon It, to prosecute it niee . t i hut when the noble lord wag defeated' for Hamp shire and toole refuee le the snu.a. borough of Tiverton- lege of voting for the eleetion of a re , resentative in Paella s) New Zealand... ° . ll . l . es)M New Granada ......N 2d & 17th te of s l p rf i 0 p ..var z e o_ . ..„, given expression. , appears to me that after the extraction of the oil being well adapted to the polis would never be properly carried out unless it was sat down has • • I' (a aug - 1 e not tin t e retie, • armer was uc er 1' b) d'd ‘ h ' h• kh B ' ' l l f d • mcnt was a trust confided b 'the constitutional law t PaPa'statei Y - ll3y Privastrofmen•Vo.,:nn;ptoa ,A 0 •...•...N sthlsth2 , • n ,soul , ton. C.P °a' Peninsula ..........M 7thl7th27thofino ....„,„ o ,,, us u o_,, ts t V purpose. The order which stood in the way of the carried beyond the limits of the metropolis, which he the t . t h'cli h * g ernari ooncluded by . moving the resolution. some little intimidation ?On the 23d July, 1837, the Ties ion ow 1 . e proposes to draw the attention Mr, EW ART seconded the t - 11 . h f • d ' mo ton. is on. men certain portion of the community for the ' benefit of Peru ... .... . ~M 'ld & 27th of m0tu , , , , ,;(':,, in p 0 ,,. second reading of the bill had been suspended in favour hoped ultimately would be the case, and the b t re y preven . noble lord told the electors, that to deter electors from ; ''• Port Nats..... ship•••• v i - ,,; e r •••• ......N By private_ vggo ,„ po r ...... 50 #l. of the house ' f ' • is o vital importance ; and although I con- had called their attention to the financial part of the the nation at large-that a man who was invested i.vith of railways and of the electric telegraph, and its suspen- its interference with the water courses. the importance of establishing an educational test for Sicily ...............Nlsthlst l l 2s th frnon .pove,. oo pto o l • sider the resolutions'of which I have given notice of question, and he was anxious to direct their attention to h such a üblic trust ought to discharge that trust in Tuscany .„.„ „ „ „../415th1502 5 th 0 l isouto , lion in this case could do no injury to the public. Lord SEYMOUR observed there was no provision - U t i . ving . the E ir v , ot , es freely w_ as a regular Tory practice whenever a Too' was opposed to a man of reformed , P moat • 1 ,1 After a few words from several noble lords, the motion in the 101 l h b • ' • ito prevent t e sewerage eang carried into some importance also, yet I shall undoubtedly give wa I h th f fth h 1 e t (Cheers.) Ever iberal principles. (A laugh.) What was tle c ange , e ace o ew o e ceun ry. y man Van Diemen'sLand(seel anlPt ° - ' if 10 ...,./ was withdrawn. the Thames, and thought if the hon. baronet introduced to the right hon. gentleman. y candidates in our diplomatic service. He b I • . would be i e 'eyed it which had come O'er the spirit of the noble lord's should perfOrm that trust openly, and all persons should Australia) .. . ...I di SO ° generally adm tted that at the present day we .. •• - ..Mi2,l& 17thoi Mon , II 1 1 a * : i ; LEASE AND SALES OF SETTLED ESTATES a clause preventing its being done after a - Certain Lord PALMERSTON-Accordi dream since that • )Th b bl • West Indies period ? (Laughter. e ononra e be enabled to inquire . how such person had acted in the Venezuela ..........10dEeMth ot BILL. date it would materially strengthen his bill. With which has been d b h • • ng to the statement were inferior in diplomatic skill to 11 h a t e esther great member then continued to uote in favour of the . +aloe, . n of 4 The LORD CHANCELLOR said that when he regard to the district, where there was . ma ey t e right hon. gentleman op- natione of the world, and that we bad greatly degene- ballot the x ree d ' ' 7. President• Jackson, the e p ,se opinions o ee of hii trust It had b dischar e , . een often proved that, Whenany of these dates fall 0,1 a . excep ! t o do pe , , moved the first reading of this bill last week he had only a small breadth of land between the inter- posite there was a scene last night in this house. gg rated in that respect • since the days of Elizabeth and • Rieht Hon. T. B. Macaulay Mr. Charles Buller, Lord though there might be cases of bribery and intimidation wretched on the following day, with the . ._„, will be Southampton),and the slalta. both of wn''," .Ai r of i stated shortly the object and provision of tbis bill ;he secting clause and the Thames, there was nothing to ' Cronawell laugh.) Well, if it be trite that a scene was enact!ed • He proposed to remedy 'that evil by in- Alh M R . t orp, r. icardo Sir E. L. Bulwer,. William Cob- under our present system, secret yotin,g Would not be preceding day. .............................„....... t i n • os would, therefore, only move that it be read a second prevent their • th ' •tth T' carrying e sewerage in o e names. here upon that occasion, the scene which has th• ' stitutiug an examination for all persons anxious b L B ' IV II B Disrael: eth, erd roughann and the ight on. . . a any secueity agaitist.such improper practices. They had - Il se r m tow res - f the cau . re even_ to enter the diplomatic service ; and languages and been often told that they ought to follow the example rs 0 4 . time. which was agreed to. • Sir J. SHELLEY said he thought it would not be ing been presented to us in my opinion surp - ' • • amidst great laughter. He concluded his quotations The committee of rate-pa Y es ADr y's 1 I ha ECCLESLA.STICAL PROPERTY' (IRELAND) right of them t alstiees it, and international law should, of course, form the main sub- . of the United States, where the votes were taken hy o prevent some of the existing sewerage IZmust say it does great credit t th • - with the opinion of laird Melbourne, and the tvinion of d t. - 00 • e 0-• o ft plethwaite have purcbase .1 ni t L 4 se em aye o e acto ects of such an examination. ballot. It was true that in the United• States the votrs BILL. c...,...,-. ae.,...;..-. t....... .1.1.... Mh.,........., .ft,,,i 4.1-...4. 41........,.,..........4 -c ...... ait concerned. J _ —am mem.... Le Le_ _____ _nom Tr_ Mi.. - t-Ic.mitelev) ,• , , schools. Windermere. for the_ sun , _ ,,torj , , at , . dig , h eg an ti t . D : ii i i eg il as _ _ The LORD CHANCELLOR said that when he moved the first readinc , of this bill last week he had stated shortly the object' and provision of this bill ; he would, therefore, only move that it be read a second time, which was agreed to. ECCLESIASTICAL PROPERTY (IRELAND) BILL. Lord MONTEAGLE moved the second reading of this bill, which was agreed t'. CUSTOMS DUTIES BILL. This bill passed through countuttee. SPIRIT, &c. DUTIES (EXCISE) BILL. This bill passed through committee. SEWERS (HOUSE) DRINAGE BILL. On the motion of the Earl of SHAFTESBURY this bill was read a second time. The standing orders were sus pended, and the bill paused its remaining stages, an alteration having been made in one of the clauses in committee. Lord SEYMOUR observed there was no provision in the bill to prevent the sewerage being carried into the Thames, and thought if the hon. baronet introduced a clause preventing its being done after a certain date it would materially strengthen his bill. With regard to the district, where there was cniy a small breadth of land between the inter secting clause and the Thames, there was nothing to prevent their carrying the sewerage into the Thames. Sir J. SHELLEY said he thought it would not be right of them to prevent some of the existing sewerage from flowing into the Thames, and that the amount of drainage that would do so after the passing of this bill would be very inconsiderable. To prevent the sewerage from the houses between the sewer and the Thu.:nes flowing into the Thames would be an injustice on the owners of property, by compelling them to reverse their levels to cause it to flow into the sower. Lord SEYMOUR said he thought the hon. baronet should undertake to introduce a clause that after a cer ain date none of the districts in the centre of the City should carry sewers into the Thames, and that, where these districts now did so, it should be carried by means of iron tubes under low-water level. Sir B. HALL said that, with reference to the latter, he would undertake arrangements should be made to carry out the noble lord's views. Oa the stio-qe,tion of Mr. WILKINSON, Sir B. HALL said he should have no objection to in troduce a c!anse to provide that where district boards were not inclined to do certain works, it should be in the power of the General B if it was thought ne ce,Rary, to carry them on. The clause was then agreed to. The CHAIRMAN reported progress, and obtained leave to sit again on Friday next at 12 o'clock. - TtIF - DERBY. Lord BARRINGTON, seeing no business of any im portance on the paper for to-morrow, moved that the house at its rising should adjourn to Thursday. Agreed to. The house then adjourned to six o'clock. At six o'clock the house resumed. A conference was held with the Lords. On the re turn of the Commons' members, Lord PALMERSTON announced that the messengers on the part of the Lords had communicated certain reso lutions which their lordships had niopted with regard to messages of either house. On the motion of the noble lord, the resolutions were laid on the table, and ordered to he considered on Thursday next. Mr. HEYWOOD gave notice that on Tuesday, the 19th of June, he would move an humble address to her Majesty, praying that she would be graciozsly pleased to issue her Royal commission to substitute an open ex amination, on the principle of competition, in place of the present system of nominations, for admission into the Royal Military Academy at Woolwich. Mr. OTWAY gave notice of his intention to ask whether it was true that Wallachia and Moldavia had been subjected to martial law, and whether the Govern ment would lay on the table any communications which had passed on the subject. Major REED gave notice of his intention to with draw the amendment to the motion of the hon. member for Bristol. He also gave notice that if that motion were rejected he would introduce a bill to permit the ballot in cases in which a constituency petitioned for it. Mr. VANCE wished to ask the Attorney-General for Ireland respecting the progress of the Intramural Burials (Ireland) Bill ? The ATTORNEY-GENERAL for IRELAND said some questions had arisen as to the expense of opening new cemeteries, but the bill had been read a second time by the other house. In answer to Colonel KNox, Mr. L AYARD-1 - cordially concur in all the senti ment. 4 to which tie right hon. gentleman who has just sat down has given expression. It appears to me that the question to which he proposes to draw the attention ' of the house is of vital importance ; and although I con sider the resolutions of which I have given notice of some importance also, yet I shall undoubtedly give way to the right hon. gentleman. Lord PALMERSTON—According to the statement which has been made by the right hon. gentleman op posite there was a scene last night in this house. (A. laugh.) Well, if it be true that a scene was enact'A here upon that occasion, the scene which has thi' even. ing been presented to us in my opinion surpaPeine it, and Irriust say it does great credit to the actors concerned. (Renewed laughter.) The Governrne' can, of course, have no objection whatever to meet the motion which the right hon. gentleman 1 1 "..8 announced it to be his in tention to bring on oet Thursday next. If the right hon. gentleman had been contented with the simple an nouncement of his intention to bring forward that motion, I should have deemed it to be unnecessary to say any thing upon the subject. The right hon. gentleman has, however, complained that the language of Government in the present position of affairs has been equivocal and ambiguous. Now, the justice of that complaint I beg leave to deny. If the right hon.. gentleroon ineans that I we have not th oug ht i t to b e consistent with our duty to deeare the precise conditions of the com , nuni• cations that have passed, or are passing, between her Majesty's Ministers and the Government vitli which we are in communication, then 1 must par that I cons Per it - would Lave been a great 'oreacl of puhlic deity upon our part it we had answered the demands which have been made upon uP,, and if we had not employed Oa' necessary reseeve which it is the duty of a Government to adopt in matters of international communic%tion be tween her Majesty's Ministers and the Government of another country. (Bear.) But the right hon. ge: tleinan has stated ti at it eras in consequence of the sil,nce of this house in 1853 that we have, as he says, drifted int') war. Now, I beg leave to sly that the forbearance wh'cli this house showed in 1853 much increased the chances of preserving peace ; and that so far from hon. members having anything to reproach themselves with as to their silence having led to war, they have every reason to congratulate themselves that they did not, by impeding the progress of negotiations, preclude those chances of that accommodation which, up to that moment, we thought was within our reach. Now, what is the present state of affairs 1 It is made a charge against the Government that they have prose cuted these negotiations under auspices which must have led to their being unavailing in the attainment of their object. Why, let me ask, would not it have been a just cause of reproach to the Government if, when so great a power in Europe as Austria was disposed to afford us its assistance in our endeavours to bring about an accommodation with the nation with which we are at war, we had arbitrarily refused that assistance—had re pelled the just advances of Austria, and had said, " we shall have nothing to do with you ; we choose to con duct our negotiations without your aid." In my opinion we should have had much to reproach ourselves with if tt for ho re yr , he andwe had n o t ava il ed ourselves of the good offices of Aus tria and endeavoured, through her co-operation and in tervention, to obt a i n if possible from our enemy satisfac tory rhonourablecontinuedothinking terms ho r e m tg s att oi negotiations je a accommodation.lorsea tununder rli,tabl eto blame e auspices f a r , a f oe, from of Austria, I think we should have greatly neglected our duty if we had declined the intervention of that country. I can quite understand that we should be open to blame if it could be proved that, relying upon the prospect which these negotiations held out of an honourable peace, and placing implicit confidence upon the good offices of Austria in effecting that result, we had neg lected to adopt those means by which the war was likely to be brought to a successful and an honourable termi nation. That reproach, however, cannot be fairly laid to our charge. We have, it is true, availed ourselves of the good offices of Austria for the purpose of obtain ing from Russia terms of peace which we should deem safe and honourable to this country ; but we have not for one moment relaxed our efforts in carry ing out those measures which, if no negotiations hart been in progress, we should have deemed it to be our . duty to make for the purpose of prosecuting the war' I While upon I recede from the consideration of overtures of a,cco n mo- I t " h l e th on v e i l o ia u n r d a , n t d her e e t ri r ret y w . . - e ( l i ia i v e e ar not thought it right to if no negotiat7oes to the prosecution of the war as s no chance that dation, upon the other hand we have acted in regard wa obtain we or our allies should through those is were going on, negotiations The right hon. a settlement of the question at issue. and a 3 if there 12 . 6 thinks it gentleman says that the . rea o s f on th w e 1 why he upon those neces earyne- gotiations to call for the opinion • i" at Whitsuntide, although that pe usually long period" .. the time gene rallyriod embraces only a few days more than , t „It. before we separate . for what . he calls " an un . ful '7., -, [ 1 .-. thct "^-71';'77 '.-,'`,.% (71,,,. , • -.. . . • allowed, is that he aepeelieede durimr h , " .e' tee Gov e r. i t, find it-e:i bound up by a clisascrennd diShonoureble pea Ce. ' Now, I can only assure the house a e -and the -right hon. gentleman that so• long asg those who are now charged with the conduct of affairs shall con. Lord PALMERSTON said he readily admitted that most important duties devolved on our . diplomatic and consular officers. But at the saaie time be should ob serve that it would be impossible to reconcile with the high character of that service those censures on the arts of diplomacy which the hon. gentleman who had intro duced the motion had quoted from the writers of a past era, but in which he took it for granted that the hon. gentlemen himself could not entirely concur. He ad mitted that all the recommendations of the committee of 1850 had not been carried into effect, but several of their suggestions had been adopted. The salaries, he contended, could not be reduced below their present standard—for, in point of fact, those salaries were below, rather arm above, the point which propriety required. (Hear.) Mini. - tters were substi tuted for ambassadors in almost every Court exeept Paris and C:mstantieople, where, front the intonate relations et present existing hetween them and this country, the change would not he &Arable. Then with regard to the petty German States, no doubt a minister residing there would acquire some information, but he would not be able ti) obtain that intimate knowledge of the politics of those States which it was most portant to acquire. He defended the principle on which diplomatic appoint ments were male, and stated that while a rigid a iherence t) the rule of seniority would be the safest for the Alit iste,r, and though a departure from it would expose him to the imputation of favouritism, still every Minister would feel it ter his own interest to appoint the men whom he might think the fittest for the different places. lie added that at a meeting of the Privy Council yesterday, an or der was passed instituting an examination of candi didates for different public appointments ; and he had no doubt his noble friend at the Foreign-office would be anxious to extend the Hanle system to the diplomatic service. In conclusion, he hoped the honourable gen tleman would not press his motion. Mr. BERKELEY then rose to bring forward his an nual motion in favour of the ballot. He said he had been told that this was a disadvantageous time for it, while men's minds were suffering under a series of victo rious disasters. But never was it more important to have men of the people's choice in Parliament than at present. (Hear, hear.) And this could not be under the present system. To those who hated reform, the war,hal great charms, as a seasonable relief. But with sincere reformers the mismanagement of the war created a stronger argu ment in favour of reform. (Hear.) The blunders, disas ters, and failures which had occurred in our various de partments had risen first froni the Government having lacome hereditary in a few great families. (Hear, hear.) There were changes of Ministries but not of systems. One set of aristocrats • went out " trietes," and another , " gaudentes" came in. (Laughter.), One set said when we come in then you shall see—what you shall see ! (Laughter.) Then, when they came in, what did we see ? Jobbry, red tape, and routine. (Hear, and laughter.) The people were fully alive to the atrocities of the sys tem. The cause was apparent. The Queen could only select her advisers from a few great families, because they monopolised place and power ; and thus not only the Ministers of the Crown, but the leadeA of our fleets and armies were chosen, net for merit or ability, but because they belonged to the "great families," who were able to make or mar a ministry. (Hear, hear.) Those great families had desperate fights for place, but on all points connected with their monopoly of power they were united as one man. (Laughter.) If there were only places . enough, Whigs and Tories would become a " banpy family" political cats fraternising with political rats. (Great laughter.) Peo ple were sick of this system—sick of sorry generals, selected from the "Red Book," and Ministers from " Burke's Peerage." There had been an inquiry, which bad concluded its labours, and was about. to bring forth a report. But what was to prevent that inquiry from going the way of all inquiries? It might result in a stinging report, and possibly in some measure ; but if it interfered with the patronage of "the great families" it would fail. Lately there was a splendid instance of getting rid of a "popular clamour"—how the "good Lord Aberdeen" bad cried for change, arid every mem ber of his Government had his handkerchief to his eyes weeping for the depravity of mankind. (Laughter.) But what did it all cite to? A "Corrupt Practices at Elec ti ins Thll," which would do nothing to prevent brilsery. "The true remedy was the ballot. The evi lance collected by the Ballot Society from various•boroirglis in the king dom, s'iowed that since the passing of the Corrupt Pale . tires at Elections Bid bribery and intimidation existed tohas great an extent as ever. He lied, on the last oc casion of bringing this subject before the house, ex posed the fallacy of calling the elective franchise a " trust." A briliiant example of the futility of what was called "open voting" hisd occurred .at the late election for the county of Cavan. At that election stones were not used, as hi the case of St. Stephen, but a lesf bad been taken from the martyrdom of Cramer and Ridley. A refractory voter bad been roasted until his ribs had been completely " done"— (laughter)—but still his vote had not been tortured out of him. Three hundred men, tenants of Sir J. Young, came to the rescue of the D-rbyite candidate ; but would they have so conic had: Sir John Young at that moment been in offiee under Aberdeen Administration ? (A laugh ) The Coven election affor led a specimen of the unvarying influence exercised by the landlord over the tenaia--an influence by which 300 mon were moved , about like so many au tomatons. Like every other great landlord, Sir Jelin Young was a political monarch over his tenantry. '" Vote for " Derby !" " Vote for Aberdeen !" says Sir John Young—it was all the same to them :-- " Whichever your Majesty may please to name— Long cut, or short cut, 'tie all the same." (A laugh.) He' (Mr. Berkeley) repeated there was no remedy for such a state of things but secret voting. (" Hear, hear," from the Radical party ) Voting in secret could not he cowardly in the poor man and not cowardly in the rich. (Hear) The question was mak ing steady progress, although some few individual mem bers had ratted from it ; but it was remarkable that they changed their opinionn when they changed their consti tuencies. Lord Panmure had no better reason against the ballot than that under it the Emperor of the French had been elected—(a laugh)—and Sir George trey de clared it to be unnecessary, from the increasing virtue of the upper classes. (A laugh.) Where that increas ing-political virtue was to be found it was difficult to say. Certainly it had not shown itself . at the last elec tion ; on the contrary, bribery and corruption seemed to have been as rife as sever. When lie last addressed the borae, the noble lord now at the head of thaGovern ment, who had always voted against the ballot, accused him of "exaggeration," (An ironical cheer from the opposition.) How, with the election of 1852 before Ins eyes, he could make that charge, he was at a loss to un-, derstand. The noble lord made, on that occasion, a . "pooh-poohing" speech, which it was rather difficult to meet ; brit When the noble lord was defeated' for Hamp shire, and tools refuge in the sntt , ts borough of Tiverton — (a laugh)---did he not think the British farmer was under some little intimidation ? On the 23d July, 1837, the noble lord told the electors, that to deter electors from giving their votes freely was a regular Tory practice whenever a Tory was opposed to a man of reformed Liberal principle's. (A laugh.) What was the change which had come o'er the spit of the noble lord's dream since that period ? (Laughter.) The honourable member then continued to quote in favour of the ballot the expressed opinions of President•Jackeon, the Right Hon. T. B. Macaulay Mr. Charles Buller, Lord Althorp, Mr. Ricardo, Sir E. L. Bulaver e William Cob bett, Lard Brougham, and the Right lion. B. Disraeli, amidst great laughter. He concluded his quotations - with the opinion of Lord Melbourne, and the 'opinion of a weekly journal to the same effect. He (Mr. BerkelaY) said he thought it necessary to enter his caveat agit i ll't being misquoted or misinterpreted in respect of what 1 1 .° had said on the subject of the aristocratic element per vading the house and' the army, and against being answered by a play upon words. He had detracted neither from the:valour nor from the ability of the upper classes. He admitted that the Royal and aristocratic soldiers at the battles of Alma, of Inkerman, and Bala klava displayed great valour and gallantrya—fully equal; in fact, to the valour and gallantry of the middle and lower classes engaged in-those great actions. It would, moreover, be an act of folly on his part' to express a doubt as to the ability of the aristocracy in the presence of a Russell, of a Pabnerston, and of a Dsrby. But he thought it, in fact, susceptible of proof that the army and the executive ha, l beet monopolised by that class to the detriment of both. He di l not think that Lord Foppington, or the Hon. Tom Shualeton, or Sir Harry E ssy, were oticulated to make such good of ef:rs in the army as ineseof the middle classes, because their pur suits, as well as their pleasures, lay in London arid at Melton Mowbray ; whereas Brown, Jones, and Robin son, who made the army their profession, were infinitely more likely to turn out better officers. It was the enstem in the country to boast of what had been clone by the a-isteeracy, and to place the ini Idle &asses in the back ground. But it alainal never be firgeiten that an army led by.a prince, and officered by the flower of the English nobility,• were not able to withstand an army led on by a brewer, awl officered by men of his own situation in life. The arm's , of Csarres I. was never a match for the Ironsiales of Cromwell, not because they were less brave, but because they were not so professional. He (Hr. B) would not be understood to say that the ballot was tae panacea for every political evil, but be welshl phint out to the country that without a change in the electoral system there would be no change in the admi nistrative department of the executive government. lie asked for the ballot, therefore, because it was the only key to unlock the fetters in which the elector now lay bound, and to give him that weight in the decision of public affairs which was solemnly guaranteed to him by the constitution .of the country. Mr: FEILDEN seconded the motion. He had long been an advocate of the ballot from his experaence of travel in foreign countries, where peace and prosperity prevailed at all political elections ; whereas, in this country, the greatest disorder and violence prevailed at siiililar elections. He hoped, therefore, that the vote of that night would have the effect of putting an end to this state of things, Lord SEYMOUR—The hon. member for Bristol had said a great deal against the aristocracy on both sides of the house, and he (Lord Seymour) had listened to him he confessed, with much surprise, for he certainly thought the house of Berkeley had not been altogether unmixed with aristocratic proceedings. He remembered the time when they were called the Ameers of Seinde, and when their aristocratic arrogance in conducting elections in' their own county was such that Eit was declared to be in tolerable. Yet the hon. gentleman got up to-night and said that h e k new ne i ther one aide of the aristocracy nor the other ; and he called them pot and kettle, though what he was, between the two, it was impossible for the house to say. (A. laugh, and hear.) The main grounds upon which he (Lord Seymour) should give_ his vote Against the motion was, that publicity was the very es sence of the representative system. But the hon. gen tleman Paid there was one particular class of persons that must be protected, and one particular action that must be free and concealed, and that action happened to be the production of a member of Parliament. He was to be hatched in the dark. (Laughter.) Nobody was to know bow he was produced ; but out be came, snme how or othea'from the ballot-box. Something went in from a number of people, and somehow or other it be came a member of Parliament. -(Renewed laughter.)' Who were the persons whose conduct was to be exempt from all examinaton ? Why, the retail dealers of the ceantry. If the measure succeeded it would reduce all voters to one general level of degradation, and they would become the mere carriers of voting-tickets. Mr. GORDON entreated the indulgence of the house whilst, as a new member, he stated why he should give his vote in favour of the motion of the hon. member for Bristol. He was the more- desirous not to give a silent vote on the occasion, because he did not en tirely share in the"sentiments of the hon. member who proposed the motion, and still less shared in those which ti era. express:seri by the noble lord who- -Lad juat ;spoken : -He should - vote for the motion, 'not so much because he thought the ballot was likely to prove a panacea for all the evils which existed in our electoral systOw, but rather in the hope that it :night_ 2 - - - • Mr. WILLIAMS complained of the high salaries give❑ to the diplomatists of this country, which were, as a general rule, double those allowed to the ministers of the United States, without iil any case securing a higher degree of talent. Mr. R. PaILLIMORE suggested that consuls in foreign ports should not be allowed to engage in private business, . Mr. RICH said he would lay on the table the reso lutions which he meant to move on the 12th of Jono re garding the system of purchase in the army. The pur port of it would be, that the system had failed in its ob ject, was unjust is its working, was in open violation of the practice in other departments, and should not be continued longer than was necessary for the gradual and just satisfaction of the claims of individuals and the state. ideas so often urged by th e h on . mem b er f o r Dumfries respect ing Mr. WIIITESIDE p r e sse d u pon the house the the necessity of a special education for our diploma tic servants, and alluded to one or two instances in his own experience where such an education would have been highly desirable. After a few words from Admiral PECHELL, Mr. OT WAY complained that promotions in the diplo matic service had been confined exclusively to the sons and relatives of peers of Parliament and of Cabinet Ministers. He cited the case of Mr. Letsom, who was an attache in Berlin in 1331. whence, in 1834, he was removed to Munich, and again, in 1840, he was removed to Washington, and then for the first time paid. After a diplomatic service of 23 years, nine of which were un paid, that same gentleman, who had conducted himself to the satisfaction o f th ose w h o employed him, was ap pointed secretary to the embassy at Mexico. Let the house cont:ast Mr. Letsom's case -with that with the Hon. Mr. Howard, who was attached to the embassy at Paris in 1838, and who, in 1841, three years after wards, was male first p rid attache in Paris, with a Falary equal to that of a secretary of legation. .Again, in less than two years after that, the. same Mr. Howard was made Secretary of Legation at the iiiteue. He had there fore filled two of the most agre,eable posts in Europe. &gain, at Constantinople Lord Napier had been made Se= cretary of Legation there over the head of Mr. Addison, the distinguished Oriental scholar, who had resided there for many years. What did he find with reference to o n t o 3 n one 9 ars ,e Stanley ? In Dece m b er , 1851, h o was ma d e second 13:61 attache' at Constanti nop l e , a f ter h av i ng acted as precis writer ta the noble lo r d (Lord Palmerton)) ; arid six days 'afterwards he was pro mo t e d t o th e o ffi ce of first paid : e a t ft h er im be m in e attachd. Again, in J anuar y, 1854, t h e same Mr. Stanley, the son of the President o f th e B oar d o f Trade, was made or to Secretary zof o t f he Legation at Athens. pi herse.tre Let in the service, was still unpaid, and so was Mr. Lytton, who entered the servile. in 1849. Both these wer e er, ri : t'enien of czr:at at;ilit-c. The., came Lerd ( 1,• wr. was yet made paid attach 6 at. Turin in 1805.. H e wa , yeally.. surprised that; with- the f ae f s • before him the noble viscount could contend that men were selected for diplomatic appointments for their fitness, and not be. In answer t 3 Mr. COWAN, Mr. V. SMITH said that orders had been sent out to the Governor-d-eneral to prepare a draft of a bill on the subject of authorising grants of letters patent for - Lord PALMERSTON said he should be sorry if his hon. friend the member for Bristol were to imagine that he had convinced him, by his very amusing though not Very argumentative speech, that the ballot was necessary. In the few words he meant to address to the house he felt that he would expose himself to the reproach he had often heard made by the advocates of the ballot; that those who oppose it did nothing but reproduce old ar guments. He, however, believed that those arguments were in themselves conclusive. The demonstration of a proposition of Euclid which was also conclusivd might be equally complained of. He thought that publicity and the responsibility of public opinion were the great principles of our representativelnstitutioni. lie held that the privi lege of voting for the election of a representative in Parlia ment was a trust confided by'the constitutional law to a certain portion of the community for the' benefit of the nation at large—that a man who was invested with such a public trust ought to discharge that trust in the face of the whole country. (Cheers.) Every man should perfOrm that trust openly, and all persons should be enabled to inquire . how such person had acted in the discharge of his trust. It had been often proved that, though there might he cases of bribery and intimidation under our present system, secret voting would not be any secueity ngairist.such improper practices. They had been often told that they ought to follow the example of the United States, where the votes were taken by ballot. It was true that in the United , States the votes were given by the way of the ballot, but. they did not profess to be at all secret, notwithstanding. (Hear, hear.) Secrecy was not the object of the electors t here. The ballot was hut a short method of giving their ,i,Z . es in the United States, as several elections were eemetn2es •goin . g on at the same time. It was, therefore, not to." secrecy, but for convenience, the ballot was adopted 1 the 'United States. So far 1. from the votes bein , e ,„-et there, it was well known g in the United States . ho* rery man voted. The men there were as proud of their 70tes as the m en in England were, and they scorned to gise: them in secrecy. Wily, the adoption of the ballot he this i ionntry would be degrading the national character. EagliehOen would not submit to it. No law which this house con.'d pass on the subject could compel the inejority of the eleoers to clothe in secrecy their votes, or to suppress the ex preson of their political opinions. What would hit ppen in the event of this system being adopted by Per liament ? The great hulk of the electors would d, fy their hew, and only a comparative few would be found to go sneaking to the poll fir the purpose of screening themselves from personal inconveniences. , Such persons would become objects of obloquy, arid would be degraded in the eyes of their fellow-citizens. These .vere his sjiert reasons why he thought th t this proposal of the billet was one which Parliament ought not to adopt. He thought it would be 4h. Lt e,ther.ineffectual for the purposes pro posed ; and if so ineffectdal, he thought that it would be a great re.lblic calamity. Tlit , bou-e appeared to be some what menu-ed by the pr posiyion of the bon member fcr Bodrnin—that the votes of members in that house ought to be taken by the nay of ,ballot. He (Lord Palmer ston), however, thought that there was much more logic in that proposal than the one submitted to them by the lion. member for Bristol. ,Wes the ballot pro posed on grounds of individual protection or on grounds of public utility ? Whether did they want to screen electors' from inconvenience, or to enable persons to act according to their wishes ? If they wished to screen persons from inconvenience, why, he asked, were not the members of 'that hr,us 3 entitted to give their votes in se crecy ? And if they did intend it as a public measure for the purpose of enabling persons more fatly to perform a 'public duty, he would ask whether the duty performed by an elector could for one instant be put into competi tion with the duty performed by hon. members. Would any man tell him that the votes of members were not constantly given in deference to the pressure of their constituents ? Why, they well knew that it vas so, and therefore, if there were any sound argument that an elector should give his vote in secret, it would have ten fold force as applicable to the votes of the members of that house. But ho should be sorry to see any such in novation introduced. The same principle upon which he contended that. an elector should perform his duty in the face of the public had also tenfold force in regard to members of that house ; and therefore, in point of logic, the proposal of the hon. member for B.rdmin was much stronger than that of the hon. member for Bristol. He (Lord Palmerstem) said it was arductio ad absurdaw, and it only proved that according to the true principles of the constitution, they ought not adopt a meas ure which tended to withdraw from public responsibility any par ticular'act done by persons in the discharge of a duty en trusted to them by the constitution. (Cheers.) 601: 41M THE WAR; Mr. DISRAELI—I t a k e th e lib er t y o f p res enting two observa myself f or t h e purpose of making one or tions on a question of importance. I confess it appears to me th at the present poSition of 'affairs is very critical, and cannot be passed over without notice as far as the reputatio n and honou r of this house is concerned. The house, Perhaps, will anticipate that I particularly allude to what took place last night, (Hear, hear.) On that ocuasien the lan gua4e of the Government was to rny mind so equivocal—their demeanour altogether so dis couraging, that I con!em .1_ myself shrink from the re. Oponsibility of accodin undere tho oirottaaltoacee to aJ Mr. DILI* VN4l4uouorted the motion. Mr. H. BEIIItELEY briefly replied. The house then divided— . F.‘r Mr. Berkeley's motion ............... 166 Against it . .................................. 218 Majority .............AD...ING BILL. .......... BILLS' OF L . The order for the second reading of this bill , was dis charged, and have was given to introduce a.new bill founded upon the resolution of a committ SILLe house. BANKRUPTCYkIKELAND) . On the motiori for the second reading of this bill, Mr. VANCE suggested that it should 'he postponed. After some observations from the SOLICITOR-GENERAL for IRELAND and Mr. CAIRNS, The second reading of the. bill was postponed until the sth of June. The'Absconding Debtors (Ireland) Bill was read a third time. The Railways (Ireland) Bill was read a-secold time. The Brighton Inc2rporation Bill passed through com mittee. • r ifb% From wtat ive d , rort 1 5 ~,111,,, 6'i. . • lOC/1001 • LiVenr °l .51i1 30uth1702— , D °S °DP 1 0 1 n ial v t ° e l 'r r : P . h. :1 I 1-; ):fe e'v6 ISouthampto . Mrs imp ; 14 povet 16 Souttr xy 0 South ' 1 040 Various 13°11', otithainPt°sl packetj ••..N Vrerica (by U. States; packet) N lostralia (via South ampton) Ditto (via Niarseilles) N Ditto (via Cape of (.1w,(11 Hope) Africa (West Cohst)..N 13d of the tnont h N •i, 9, ••?4, Fic 30 of klexandria........ 20th of ni °l '• " a ' iamas ••• • • ...... 17th of the month Belgium „ „N tally .... ••• . • • 3razii 9th of the month • • Buenos Ayres ,9th of Use moot: , Cape of Good Hope •.N Cape of Good Dope .. N Cape de Verds .....•N 9th of the mon th Ceylon (see India) Ceylon ..............N Channel ..N; Mon ~Wed.,&F ri 4, . .......... 1:3,1 ej 17th .f China ... . 'Once a month •• • • Constantinople .... 1 8;43,6-.28 vi Constantinople ..14th 20th of mon. Cci it. of Europe M & N 'Twice daily •• . • •`•• Egypt -(see India) France & N Twice daily .• • • • • Gibraltar .. , ...M 4, 7,17,20, 27 of ni Greece (see Greytown B ; l7th of mon. Damburgh N ;Tuesday go Friday Davannah of the . moth Rolland ........ M Daily ...• • • ••• "• Hondurso ......., Mll7th Of the month. India (vlaSouthampt.)Ml4th & 20th of mon. India (via Marseilles)lll,9th&2sth of mon th lonian Isles (see India)l7, 17, & 27 of 1110 0 Ireland ........M & N 'Twice daily •• • Ltsb " • • • • • • 7, 9. 17, & 27 of m. Madeira ............ M 9th of the month Madeira . 23d of month •• •• Malta (see India) Malta ** " N j 3. IS. & 28 o f WO. Mauritiu Mauritius ........ ............. 1 1 4 of h tho of the m en f i t b t1) " fit t) o a v t Mexico ........... Intl over • Naples.. sth IMl2sthof mon , , +,,optoti New Granada j2d & 17th of month 80 ar li otis p ort 4 New Zea1and.......... private ship- • • i,V ove r • •• • Papal States ..Nlstlllsth2sthofinon. t amp Peninsula ..........Ml7thl7th 27 tho floom' °„ ` :tr goort ... ^" Peru „.m & 27th of P °.- 1 Port Natal ..........N By private ship.• Sicily sthlatl2htlio nisol, Tuscany .„ „„ s t hlso2sthofmo n. . l)oY : ,'„ op to pi Venezuela 2d& Lith oat:loath Sou' 1 6 Van Dlemen's Land (see Australia) .......... tti op tof f ;"„,;•"" West Indies '2 ilk 17th o Month , SO U As ~4 ofq , •t he ni nlle 11 ;Id t" When any of these dates fall on a gun- • • e to e of 04 spatelicd on the following day, with the eac be deoP Southampton). and the Malta. both of which preceding day. au . I r 0: 4 !I /I 3 Its! W I - ' 4'9 : ed''' I' I' 2 ,1 .11 o pto l, Spa , Lodr, •0:0,, ,f ootialDP` p 10 4 1)0VOr 20 s u ut,P 3l l l ) ver , 0 40 00jver• • l• 2 6 001: ties t 0„ pi: 8°"'"n1r000 . f Dive rpoo. , D°ve V V Ce#l. pßiie T :ii h iniv e zea c hri o ta m evto m eh ittee of rate-payers of the tow nsbiP 0 iiild - ---. of Ar consideration, ave Yorkshire, f or_sein e t i mTeh past schools, i movement Windermere, in favour v f e o u r r the )f srueufloromf alt,e4r°7sfitebi: Si T e h n e d desirable to e exf unanimously t a o b c i l is a a th 4 e epa ( a 2 : purchased St. Mary's COO fract they afo r ' and" En flie school for the W ' est-Ratting. h t fro ° t ,i o o THE OySTql. FISHERY.— A. bill, brOtig i e oe Liv co Lords n of the , . f lakes provision for the more effeetos' 0 fir, al la dredgesbite found on board fiAting-b.,:eg gland, by, authorising th© seizure " I ° " t e ) 714 ,:',1 _ n isheries convention of 1839. lief ee „,o o , i i , !bile (from the Ist of Mar to the 31st of a u . ? Oki the i t s l y a e draatnlsesatra hp:reeia:ss:dtoisrbil;t::htente:is-so:oF 1 leoritb:lt :'ci aiiii::::llotriliri ma ,e-zure of ovstirs that may have been 13°,,,,,11 fa -tars of tbe ve,sels. •1 • liable to A t'''• jot , wt I also be,ioout 31 or im • - ' . prisonment for ten days, with or s ' labour. .••• ' -----"---.-------'- durieg i. \ - . 0 .. B/RTIIS. f of J. Beatty. Rsq., C.E. OF "°:1 the 111 ' ' ' On the 20th inst., at 13, Bloi field-terrace, ifio , t o h f 00 O o t 1 w h n e : ter, the . rho eittrhhie 1,e002 2 7f : 0. st t thw h ih:: i jirGu n : il s ss.o t ttd.B . ,:f;amenittylteßLratirh. Brighton, T e gn heh ß itoio e yaln e t:Torstr.ohy3,l:o; iotire3:lprferars s.ltet oh :et : ii . : l st et : arth' n- lp f '''' Esq. w ife° Ou the 21st inst., at eamberwell-greev, the Rev. Henry Philip Died.' Leaf 1.11". OF A DARGHTE It• the , On the 21st inst., at 13. Bel,rave-oquire, b" ape •. balm Stewart. , Asrotbilis o ft On the 18th 4 nQt., at Ansta 110"aP'13 31.1'' lady of Sir John Forster Pitmenl 1 ii•°' " , 5 b0rn.3t0106113146 street , On the .21st inst., at 32, Burton - Aire.... F. Gale. . --------_ e l MARRIED. 0 11 ~„, S3.r b iji, vlslo. 'burl,- t, On the 17th inst.. at Woodstock, 0./cfe f J.O a es , Churchill, M.D., of Fawley, Ilonts, sou ° A u e, 102 1 stock. . r e:l.tohfe Ded,lington, Osor. garrison,'l ••" o f Egl' daughter of the late J. V, 21st inst., at Trinily Chnrch,rtTeintli°ol3')rii'bel.ePre: niel flankin, Esq.. of Stanstead, Herts. to i ' c ' es terg ° second daughter of John Rosy, Estl.t d G ° Hyde-Park, and of th , Gill, Cumberland. el, Orcs: / c e li n oe °r: On the 22d inst.. at the Wesleyan ellibernis T . C; place, Walwortb, John B. Ingle, 3 1.,.` 1 " We 11 ,.. °T. p/O P berg, London -bridge; fourth son of w e m e law Ingle to Arabella, youngest daughter of ~•- . ~...--- Dirt,PEsct., of Tooting, Surrey'. 01 4 DIED. t. ' On the 21st inst., in Lower BrookAreet, lien re, Sir George CharlesD'Aguilar, IC. C. 13. Vdf°faatiOite' On the 11th inst., at I , Gower-stret, tle '- Patrick Grant, Esq., formerly of Rade°. ' 1080 aged 61. or-gatt9rele 06° On the Bth inst., at Park-street, Grosvat ov a s o.o, relict of the late Sir Hurnpbry Dav 9. T i r ," ( 1 of it of the late, Charles Kerr, Eq4., of tb© - I _,' - ` s J3oye r, On the 19th inst., at 40, Marine-per3u6' 9 44 T. B. Leonard. ~ i'le• 10 • On the 20th inst, at Wedmore, 3° b° LI St' aged 73. ~g. toT o ' • Sonic -- of On the 2nth inst., at 21, PolY l ,l . Pickf Paneras, Mr. Amery Bar;leit, ai,red u'r' T ri cker , s 4, On the 20th inst„ George uolenum _. g ett re iriii i, East Cowes Villa Lower Norwood, SoLrfe.YG. T. Pt K .4 g' On the 1:)th ins 9 t. at Peekhatu-rye, I ' l ' Ddb aged. 36. On the 17th inst., at North Irouse, rto:trsiii:lo:o, o f , e: Hodson. Iti OJ the 17th inst., _at 77, Stanl"rst,,rl ,5. 1 otto , e l T LIT, :ormerly of Wiginore-street, a. , ° ,0 frot o Ca f e rve; `On the ist inst., on his vov.ge Pf,,,..,,0 yortv,r ,0 the Oriental, M.ajor.Goneral Wal• 1 :,;:,.. ng ed .9;',: i 00 0 _ 1 ,, Enogninte,here4ithtli:itsFfeerbo,f itilties,C,,lonunttbailAlsvi_7y: 3ifraottieral;:.A7tiaeLY , rs oll M ae Madras, Lieutenant-Colonel John Isa". aged 49. ire,./ker ~, 'th j . ,_ . :t b e , _; l3: TY • l ig g c ciV i i t i e eL ll3f,4 Esq.,On athnierll4tshyiengsrt.s,, artesilidaevancbouirng On the 13th Inst•., George It. 13.,167p0: pea "- gal Civil Service, and of ICennt, Lo * ... Barns, aged 70. 0 v. :.,10 , . 101/D 14°' of A bv L 01433017 : Printed and Published .. ~,, , a o gice, _ Qu o of No. 112, Strand, Printer, at Sav oy , " iii the G Strand, in the Precinct of the , _ o, Middle:go, Weduesclap Ably 23 - Lord rALm.. - E - 4, , ,:r0s gave :,otice tiTht on:Tlitirsa* next lie should' tanVe tha7t'tl3s orders of the - day - 15 rtiiist.' poned until after the discussion of the motio n of the right hon. gentleman the member for Bucks. The bowie adjourned at a quarter before one. RELIGIOUS WORSHIP BILL. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY moved the second reading of this bill. The Earl of CARNARVON hoped, as the bill was net an important one, that the noble earl would post pone it till after Whitguntide. - The Bishop of LONDON seconded the request of the noble earl as the bell involved an important principle. The Earl of DERBY suggested that full opportunity should be given to consiler the bill after it was in the bands of their lordships in the amended form. The best course would be for the bill to be committed pro forma, and the! , recommitted after the recess. The Earl of SHAFTESBURY acceded to this sug gestion. After a few words from the Bishop of LONDON and Lord REDESDALE, th e bill p asse d through committee pro forma. PARLIAMENTARY REPRESENTATION (SCOT LAND) ACT AMENDMENT BILL. This bill passed through committee. REGISTRATION OF BIRTHS, &c. (SCOTLAND) BILL. This bill pass passed through committee. METROPOLITAN INTERMENTS. The Bishop of LONDON postponed the resolutions of which he had given notice, on this subject, until the first Tuesday after the recess. In answer to a remark from Earl GRINVILLE, as to the majority of the bishops having left the house at an early hour, The Bishop of LONDON said that the right rev. brethren, in common with him, abstained as much as possible from taking any part in mere political debates, or from voting on mere political questions. The house adjourned at half-past 7 o'clock. f HORSE OF COMMONS—YESTERDAY. The SPEAKER took the chair at 12 o'clock. EAST KENT RAILWAY. On the question that this bill be read a third time, Mr.JAMES M`GREGOR moved that it be not read a third time till th e ev id ence an d report of the comm ittee shall be printed and circulated among members. He moved therefore the postponement of the third reading to the 4th of Jane. anc tft m e r_a. _ef w remarks from Mr. Rice, Mr. Lushington, Bic " r.Deedes against the motion, and from Mr. o favou r • - Th e he o f it, use divided, when the numbers were : FAgainst .................. The bill was thez ts a j orit y r 99 teaviea third tim e an d passe — d. " The Luton, Duns the Lyme Regis Road s Bi ll a nd Welwyn Railway, and an d passed. . 8 were also read a third time The following bills were considered read a third t me : — BridpertaeNdilred a nd oeagtai r n d s e o r r e n d o to aa b s e ; Caledonian Railway ; Oxfo rd , Wolver hampton Railway (narrow gauge) ; Peterborough Wolver- Wellingborough Road ; Sunderland ngli and Dock - W igan Preston Roads , North of Yarrow. I ga° and BUSINESS OF THE HOUsE, Mr. WILSON said be had been asked by several members whether the Government intended to go into committee of supply on Thursday night ; and it might be convenient to the house if he stated that if the hon. member for Aylesbury (Mr. La yard) did not bring for ward his motion on that evening the Government would go into committee of supply. METROPOLIS LOCAL MANAGEMENT BILL. On the order of the day for the house g oin g into coin• mittee on th e a b ove bill, Sir B. HALL moved that clauses 27 and 23, which relate to the election of chairman of the board, be post rood. After a few words fro The motio n was m Viscount EBRINGTON , On °' dawn - - _ 4 ~~ `-, •_......