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— so. You saideer when th e sea broke into the'tent bu said so. 'you sate nu light ) , tie; said recollect at any t i me seeing Bergami in a blue man- No. aviln‘.iri!ewfl ' ton Saw h er R oyal Highness looking through) the ..the Villa d'Este, and saw M a h ome t d anc i ng , do mi nd ?eiteve that a w oman of virtue, or common delicacy of ( t an ` et cOuld look upon the dance without diogust ?—The le ro, in ns nut more disgusting than the common Spanish bo- I My opinion. ca r , l ak You were commiss i one d be her Royal Highness tO •Y a Mes •• •,.' • • was. taiit\v b ._ sage to Laptain - Pech-ell of the Cloths( e . p`" You delivered her Royal Highness's answer to Lop ti,s,,..eckell, What did you say to him by her Royal Hight tite su'iciosniand ?—I do not remember the exact words, bu t tat sta nce was, that her Royal Highness would keep tier i „,n tale, Pa 'j j ed l3u h r ecollect whether these instructions were .accon resp," any. observations Irons her Royal Highness w i t hno t. 1 w il l ° Captain .Pecheli's conduct towards her Mkt he r You said, in a former part of your examination, di'greeall'lal Highness - treatd all her servants with a great, kindness and affability ?—Yk . i „ rnaki a 'w You have felt that that affability justifie . d . you se,„ anY r emonstrance to tier Royal Highness if you . had tatio u. Y "Proper conduct likely to be:lnjurious her repo- The LOR D CH ANCELLOR.—That question cannot be put. Hessre . co . 'OO arsy occasion when her Royal High ! . 'he meangl ving directi ons respect i ng h er route , or th e inns t , iet i• to stop at, suggesting to her any alteration in her c) t g es i ri - it) le n o t recollect any arranged the route for her Royal Ilighne . ss i iourssies ) I k •• 1 imagine ber No st ,„ o not know , , . Herself. If tle l You ever hear of any spies being employed.to watch her a . ert vHiglirsess's c on d uct, or do you k n o w w h e ther thtz tirktyclerdoi:vn knowl e d ge ?—O n ly front t h e con f ession f k . ni, w if the Duchess of Cologna dined with her bid giiness?—Yes.' ta s , 11.111,4 tin Forti, her nephew, wait at the table ?•-•I never 1 / I . o '' R k „ i was the dress of a courier, by ter whlels was worm 11•;1,-.4itaeti and gold. turned lip with scarlet. , r.._ gild ;t hossar's dreSs ?—Not exactly. a rich dress ?—Very handsome. - . if , 11(4 ,r"c iniALARAS--.1 wish to ash if the swell of the s ea, „ ( ' 4 ' he r a r! ia nitily, did ?rot altog sible ether render female atten .t an w:.:arieuaisfasuusteYol4,ll;sesell,li)ifgt t h l ie l i l i e t v:e y s ss i e n r rhhe;:"llahleereat'iveansdantys use the terns, as her Royal Highness, u nderstand, that male attendance ou her Royal artii-ss ahsolut e ly and indispensably necessary both I'e dY th g.ht ?—For -ny thing that her o Illghne ti A i a i ,: t o was neces ' s ' ary that a nsale atte ß nd y a al nt should be cure it, 411el id i "'re any steward in the vessel Whose duty T 1 cabin and also in the tent ?—Nont• pal . Gosportp—After the sea striking the ten t, t .' at c,es cl o s e d ?—I thick they were. that ‘- w 'tness • •mber where the hatches were found . Care pus lets remember nut recollect. * L ''re)Y" s d aY w i —i bc d • o y• ever saw the hatches lying anY li i ti v , e . .s -- sel -a liot ie r t eco r lie t c ) t u seeing the hatches in any part of 11 1) 7 .„ }• T l ever seen them sit all ?—I haVe. du not recollect ; on deck .: l were ih Y•lih t. ll eY iron gvatings, or entirely closed ?-,--I.ley P i „ 'lt---You stated that the first' time Bergami dined Hei r ) 1 1, 4.41 Highliess's table be was in his coorier's dress i , -tar swear' that he did not sit stext„to her Royal Iligt du not recollect „ u :i . " . _n e swear, that if " lie did, you wou ld not recollect it ? ht ()_ collect it ; I said so before ;if I did I would say ti~",ee• "rTO RNEY-GENERAL asked the following ques- W' • ""u gh the House Yon not attended by a Genoese servant of the nam e . ec ,l r ;:; 4 : i seo. at. Rucanelli ?—I had a servant named Francis btt ''e was 'not in servant when I was at Rucanells. It Y °ll- know where y he now is ?—No. 1 11 I t , h e did you last see him?—in London. pi, "it house ?—A t Mr, Vi xar d' s . witness was now allowed to withdraw. 'XILLE SHARPE, 'E_sq• w as (4 , mined by th en 'sworn. Exa. Mr. DE . NM AN. Cite hat situati on s have you been in k. In Ll_ ji:ast India service, and in the army. tL'he You h em) in. the East Indies ?--•yes ; ten years. . 1 , 1 1); d v4 did you ever return ?—Two years ago. t gttr > u ‘ see 0; Moor i s h d ance tv ,i4 • --i• Cs. , there, called pimar, 1 I V' a a t dance accompauied by any sound ?—yes. _ s. )1„ sounds were they ?—They were cm:kw:tiling sound Not know what they were ' • a, v „ w as there; any th ing in this dance indecent, or unfit Wi i - "ntan to see '—Certainly nut. 411 were th e ha nds of the dancers ?—They were thrown . i ut getter • • • 1. v the head. -,, , t s c i ", e tbe kn ee ' : ,s",• Li a t, o w e rts th e re any curtseying ?—yes, the tii!;)id the be throhout th t "t o 1 ! ~ u nmeanin g sc %Inds e y t o la u ne l_ e m . ve mentioned form the 4 4. winch the dancer dance d ? Yes ; they sung it to 'l‘, t - w At aeri,;.,laTe you see n it ?--At Calcutta. Place at' Calcntta ?—At the G o vernor's House. IVr the s Nl th arr e Gucci presc nor '—T tit ?he Mar qu es s of Hostiogs. Y A ril the Nl ar ellioneSs i—Yea• W as t l l ler Ladies ?—Yes. ' 4 A lict e „ R lsliop of Calcutta there?—Yes.—(A laugh.) .. 17 uj 'hoP's Lady ?—Yes, she was, JS 41 "ec ' es it t . -e re is nothii • itadeceut in the dance?—Nothing I t t l• A r . Cross-examined by Mr. PARIS. a nY other dances danced in the East Indies ?—.A. A ow n ; are qui c k er , but they are all in the same stylr. th e a r n Y Persons dance the dance you speak of ?—One. b e i tny other dances, at which Lathes are not pre '`NT:x "eve not, I never heard of any. • LUGIANA. sworn.—Examined kti Dr. , • ~, Q: /. 1 - '; , tl t 4 i ," von ever been in the . service of her Royal High it' :1 ; t ril ' e uss of Wales?—A. 1 have been. . kh )-- e spacit , ) I waS factor. t l)t ~I . t were the dut ies you performed in that situation?— ac l . t' 'utit 441 ' over the working people, marked down their a _ v 11 : 1 " 4 1 s 'i a " Paid th em - on 4turdays. I had to take care q t .. ,era',''ibution of the wine in the family, and all other se A Wl, N "ieli the mast . commanded regarding the house. ml *:.'t ere w ss it ". performed these duties ?—At the Villa I ''' li ' the hardens, vineyards, &c. ~, t, ow h ill , ~, ens, . der ' li orti ~• di d you continue to perform . these services ?—I t 'bat place, a when eighteen 11 , ti 'e ortiee of facto r years of age, I tin t), " 111 the mo you in the '-lr° v ► g we re t l i l l i l g s li h n e es la S i t Pla t merit she bought the V i lla 1) o 1 e ,1711‘t(4:,4,.f10w Luigi Galvini ?—I do. '4l y,; - "e ?-1-le is a mason by trade. At 1 , 11. 4 ever employ hies ?—Yes. 1-)0 y n : /t , wages per da o livres of Milan per day. I) '''' h nOW 1 - • y .• rued Bruza ?--; do not. , fiathe y ou kn _ yv , person named l it w as " a person n amed , kb. . a mason at the Villa, and ' perhaps I might know Rag.azoni ?—I have heard b i d sigh t. bi, 7 " 1-1 know Paule Raggazoni ?-1 do not. , _ tl'p .i , Y°4 remember ther.e I:),, Ilu remember the giaitto at the Villa d'Este ..—a r s. ly, d e , )l Adam and Eve ?—Yis, I do. being then two statues, at the Villa In ~,`,n e Y stand in the grotto ?-They had been in tne grotto. o `agog,4U4t roots of the grotto?—ln the first ro tun d a, s tw ~s there, ?—Yes, there were 4 tt l anrOther rotunda, or octagon ik . ore. tiesltat'asti! c();rlice made in that rotunda, br room where the ,‘, ""d \Ok' s a or octagon, where the statues stood ?—N ,, . , ~...t °l. : :l : ;;:e e rr e e any scaffolding erected, or any work done in that iiiiere was. ny cot nice ntade' in the other octangular room . 1),."' ur bob , I a 1" Scribe I , - n one al one. . . ~ och ~,.. ile passae - e or communication, from the room in the e(I 4"e the statue,, to the other octagon or rotunda where 0..; ,, Nice Was pot up ' ', -1. Want some paper. 1 I r)f 1 Ptr was then 4 ; to the witness, and he aieW the 1) an , tx,,,!e conuout kati% e Nl.hich was shewit to the Counsels it .4 ,ed by the tr.! ) iti x ' e ,, Intel moot l ' ir ss. •cl that the drawing represented the ' 1 t . ' rooot where l e lte a s i tatues Were, and t hat in which the r (~teltio.vas pot up, with the corresponding passage. : 5) 11 ' lhe W1,11 1i111• .1 t work at the cornice in the octagon -'.le 1 r ) 4Y ""Y possibility see the statues t of Adam and Eve in ~iii"tnit where you have - stated they stood ?—No; they WI, ! i l lt ' n 41:1 ' 1 . . ---e eatise the passage is crooked, and prevents the I . t ' l4 . ‘ 44 a4 ~ih t ' stat ues of Adam and E ve ever stan d i n any other ht Grotto ?—No, they did nut. . . ~ . , . . .. Was* ctirniCe.made 'to :thy Other. room iu the Grotto than 'that of. which you have spoken, since the Princess came to the Villa d'Este ?—lt was made in that which I have marked upon ttle paper.. . Was one made in any other room or the Grotto ? It was made in two rooms: in that which I hare stated, and in the square room inadied . on the paper. Could you see 11!e statues of Adam snd Eve from either of those rooms in which a .cornice was made ? Witness said.he wanted a better explanation. Do you believe that front the Square Room, or the Ro tunda, a person could see the statues of Adam and Eves?--No. When were the statues removed from that Grotto?—Be fore the return of her Royal Highness. Return from whet e ?—From her journey in Turkey. To what room were they removed ?—To one of the mosaic rooms, which wets newly built in the palace. . Had those mosaic rooms been finished completely before her Bova! Highness returned from the long voyage ?—They were. Were the workmen removed front those rooms before she returned ?—They had been left by all the woi kitten. And the scaffolding taken away ?--Yes, from the mosaic rooms. _ . ..... How long were these removed 'before the Princess's re turn?—About eight or ten days before her arrival. ' Were those rooms then lit for her Royal Highness's recep tion ?—Yes, t hey .were. Was the Mo9ic room round ?--Where the statues were the room was square. - What was the next room to that where the statues were ? The second was a long small oblong cabinet. NVhat was the room beyond the oblong cabinet ?—An oc tagon room, or round room with columns. Could any one in that octagon room see the statues of Adam and Eve ?—They could not, because they were by the side of the opening. Cross-examined by Mr. l'Anx limy long were you in the service of her Royal Highness ? —From the day she bought the Villa► till slit left. I was born at i ha Villa d'Este. _ • IVcre the statues of Adam and Eve in the grotto when you entered into the service of her Itcyal Highness ?—They were. In the room yon have described ?—Yes. In the largest room in the grotto ?--ln the first octagon room. V T That is no answer : were they in the largest room in the grotto will not say the largest, because the square rooms are somewhat greater than the others. The exact dimensions I do not hoow. How many rooms were there in the grotto ?—Six, com prizing the•round.and square rooms. Were they all on the same story ?—'They were not. Were they one above another ?—First there are some mar ble stairs, then comes a level, then more stairs, and another level. In some places the stepS were few, and in others many. How, high was one part of the grotto above the other ? The height of the first room 'was ten or eleven steps from the first rotunla to the first room. INTERPRETER.—The witness means, that the first room was as high as eleven steps from the rotunda to the room above. For what purposes were the different rooms of the grotto applied ?—For no purpose but for seeing a subterraneous place. What was in the second room?—The second room bad a small statue of Artemisia weeping on a tomb. That room was the'only one, with the exception of the first, that bad statues ?—Yes. Were those rooms open to each other after mounting the steps'?—After the steps they were' open to each other. The two rooms communicate together. The first room is the Ro tunda, in which the statues of Adam-and Eve were; the•se cond is the room where Artemisia was ; after that, 'on the se cond teed, there is another room, a gothic room ; then one step, and on the right, .after two or three steps, is the Ro tunda. After this Rotunda, on the second level, is the Ro tunda larger, where the cornice was made, and after that comes a half square room. • The two Rotundas you have mentioned wet e after you bad passed the two first rooms ?—Yes, on the left, and then on the right.—Were all these passages opeu ?—Yes. Were there no doors at all ?—Nn. Were there no doors on any part of the grotto?—There were, at the beginning and end, two iron gratings. Could .persons see through them?—Fes, because they were open and wide apart. Was there a pillar:for them to rest upon, or did they turn upon a pillar or a pilaster?—They were attached to a wall they were of one piece, and shut against it. Were there any pillars in the rooms of the grotto.?—Yes, . - In which 1—I; - the second room after the rotunda there were small columns.. . . . Look at the plan you have drawn; will you swear that that is an accurate plan of the place ? — I cannot call it exact, because there is not measure for proportions. I - IoW long have you been in En4land I—Ten or eleven days. Did.you come direct trourthe Villa d'Este I—Yes. Did you see a person employed to make plans at the Villa d'Este?—l have seen several persons taking plans, but do not know for what. Did you see an. Architect named Ratti taking designs at the Villa d'Este, five or six weeks ago ?-1 have seen him more than three or four months ago. About four months from this time ?—Yes, about that time. Does Ratti live at Milan or Como?—.',t Did you come with any witness here?—yes, I did. How many!-4'ourteen. Did you conduct those witnesses here ?—Nu. Who did ?—Their An will. You mean to say theit own expenses ?—They came by their own will, but the expenses were not paid by them, they wet e defrayed by the order of Chevalier Vassali. Did he come with you ?—No. Who was the person who paid the expenses on the road ? Chevalier Vassali gave me the money, and 1 paid them. Did you apply to any persons to come over 4s u witness? Never. Did you apply to any single person ?—To no person. When did you,come to England?—On the 10th teptember. Was you examined Lefore you came here I—.l was. Where was you examined ?—At By whom ?—The AdroCate, and an Englishman named Henry. . . Did you give the same account you have given to-day? All ilia was true I said. .. _ Then am understand all you said was not true ?—No. Were you asked to tell all that was true ?.1 was not asked. Many questionsl have been asked this day I was not asked at Milan. Whp,eXamined you?--The Advocate; I do .not know his name. What sum of money did' you receive for corning bete ? Fifty Napoleons to defray the expences. Have you received anything.for yourself?—No. Are you to receive any thing for coaling here ?—I asked fur nothing, but ifher Royal Highness snake me a present,l have no objection to'take it. Wit% you. swear that. yea expect nothing ? - -1 expect no- F thing! it they give me coy thing I will take it; but I would tome .here without anything to tell the truth. Will yJo swear that you do not expect any thing ?-1 repeat what I said before, that if they give me any thing I will take it.—(A laugh.) Then I am to understand that you say distinctly you do not expect any thug?--I have told you before that Ido not claim any money, but if they give me any money, I will take it; but I say, as 1 said before, I would come here without money to tell the truth.—(A laugh, and cries of " Withdraw.") Lord GROSVENOIt,-1 wish to draw the witness's atten tion to the statues of Adam and Eve. Was there :tny column or pillar in the grotto, from whence a pers'on could see the. statues of Adam and Eve ?—There is a pilastre before the door. Lord LAUDERDALE.—I wish to know where this pi lastre stood, from. which you could see the statues of Adam „ n o E„ did not ,say that • the statues could be seen. 1 said there was a pilastre before the door. Describe the Space between the column and the place where the statues stood. H er e s o me conversation arose about this question. The witness here wished to refer to what he called " the place," but it turned out that he alluded to a plan which he had prepared before he cattle to the House.. A difficulty now arose as to the admission of this plan in evidence, inasmuch as the`wttness haknot.spoken of it in his first examination: Dr. LUSHINGTON' offered the plan in evidence, and after a short discussion the LORD CHANCt:LLoR decided for its ad mission if the witness"couid swear to its accuracy, Earl GROSVENOR examined the Witness fur Dr. Lushing toil to this point and -the witness stated, thatto the. hest. of his belief the plan was correct. Mr. PARKF,.—When did you make this. plan ?—About an hour before I came to the House this morning, Examination resumed by Earl GausvENott, - Q. Could a person, placed behind the pilastre in question, see the figures of Adam and Eve ?=--A. I believe not, because the pilastre is out of the room, and the statues are on the op posite side. Examined by the Earl of BLESSINGTON. Q Had the statues of Adam and Eve any fig leaves round them ?—A. They had vine leaves made of tin and bound be hind. _ NS , ere they hnng on wire ?—Yes ; brass'wire. Were the vine leaves moveable on the wire?—'they would move. Hai both the statues the same vine leaves?—Both. 'When theyivere moredinto'the - NLshic roam as it Whs'call ed, did they remai❑ with the vine leaves on ?—Yes, they did remain there. Ghiseppi.Gavolini .szaorn.—Examined by Mr. VVILLIAnis. Q. From what country do you come come from Milan. What business do you follow?---I am a master mason. Were you ever employed at Villa d'Este. the, reildettee of her Royal Highness the Princess of Wile's.?—l was. Did you know a person named Raggazoni•?—l Was he a master workman, or a common workman ?—He was a day workman ; I let out work to him and eight or tea workmen, who received money altogether. Do you know the grotto at Villa d'Este ?—I Do you remember at any time any workmen being 'employ ed in that grotto ?—I do. . . Was that the work to which he alludes when he lt't out some work to Itaggazoni and others ?—They worked by day on that occasion, and not by piece-work. It was another time I gave IC tw•crrk. Does he remember any cornice wot k being done in any part of the grotto ?—I do. Dees he recollect any statue of Adam and Eve in any part of the grotto?--1 do. Was there any cornice wotk done in the room where Adam and Eve were ?—Ntine at all. Was there any cornice work done in any other part 'of the grotto ?—There was another room where I was at work. Were the men at work on the cornice ?—They were. Was there any scaffold made for the purpose ?—There was. Wfts there any other scaffold ;put up in any part of the grotto but that ?—No other but that in the square room and octangular room. Did the square room join the octagon room ?—Yes. Was the square room and the octagon room next the statues ?--They were. At what part in that place was the scaffold?--I had it put opt() work on the cornice. Could any one see the statues of Adatn and Eve from that scaffold ?—ln no way could those statues be seen front the scaffold, because all the passages leading to theto were winding. Do you•mcan the passage from the square and octangular rooms ? —From the octagon room there came another room, and then there was another passage, and the room where the statues were. Was the passage he alludes to a winding passage ?—Yes. Does he know• a person of the name of Rastellel—l do. What is the Christian name ?—.Josephi. Does he know whether that man is in England ?—No. Does be remember to have seen Rastelle before be left tan ?—Before I cause away, we were together. Did you see hint at Milan 'some time before you came away ?—I At that time does he recollect arty thing being said by Ras telli about witnesses, and what happened in the service of the Princess ? The SOLICITOR-GENERAL objected to the question, un less the evidence of Rastelle pointed to it.. It was irregular to ask the witness what Rastelle said. • Mr. WILLIAMS said it was difficult, in a legal vice, to de termine who the real parties were in the.proceeding. He knew her Majesty was one, but could not state who the other was.. In that respect the case differed from proceedings in the Courts below, consequently it ought not to be governed by the nice technicality of law. His object was to prove by the wit ness, that Rastelle tendered motley to witnesses to come to this country. He wished to prove that witnesses had been inffuced by money to give the.ir testimony. That was a fact very important, and fit for the consideration of the House.. It was a fact which might to be pressed against Rastelle, who was a witness in the cause. He was desirous of proving that they came under the expectation and hope of profit. He ' might go further, because their Lordships would find by the evidence that Rastelle was employed by the Milan Committee to collect evidt nee. In page 22G, it was proved he sent one witness to the Committee. In page '234, another proof of his agency appeared. The LORD CHANCELLOR ordered the last questions to be read. ' The questions were'repeated. Mr. WILLIAMS again urged his tight to follow the line of examination he was pursuing. The question whether wit nesses had been induced to come forward under the expecta tiou of profit or advantage, might occupy the attention of the Lords at a future stage of the proceeding; and it was reason able that he should he allowed to fix upon the witness Ras telle the activity be had shown in promoting the views of the Milan Committee. Here the LORD CHANCELLOR observed, that it was four o'clock, and before the house separated, he should call the attention of ,Counsel on both sides to the evidence in page 4 . 1, wheye Rastelle was asked :—" Hale you ever of fered money to any witness ?" He said, in answer, he had not. In that assertion the witness might be contradicted or he might not. Mr. Bitoucuaxt.—We have two grounds, my Lords, on which we can support the examination:—First, we prove the agency of Bastelle; and secondly, there is his own ad. mission. The SOLICITOR-GENEKAL said, Rastelle bad been asked whether he had ever offered money to any witness, and he positively denied it. If his:Learned Friends could prove Ras tette ever did say he gave money to the witnesses, they would in that case he at liberty to ask the question. The LORD CHANCELLOR.—We will go on with the exa• initiation to-morrow.—The House Adjourned. FOR THE SUN. MODELS FOR ADDRESSES. Mn. EDITOR—The recent COVENTRY ADDRESS, with PETER MOORE tacked to it, reminds me of the old Joe Miller story of a former Address from that famed City to our MAIDEN QUEEN ; WiliCh Address, and HER MAJESTY'S Answer, would certainly have been better models than those on which her present MAJESTY'S Advisers h'ave been working : " We Men of Coventry, Are very glad to see Your Royal Majesty— Good Lord ! how fair you be !" To which HER MAJESTY most appropriately replied :-- " My Royal Majesty' Is very glad to see Ye Men of Coventry— Good Lord ! what 1•'ools ye be ."' Y•ur's, at the i t hoat ie stia - I live d it w as )y h et e frog' a, to he r t o the fa" lie, as intro, for the rdshir testiolo ce tiAt wife' oYg e to g e l ;Welledill ; beP 5.9 oish' act l,4 s ;5f E ined xr f o e,' yid bef spriP e L s videu' ' 9ll tj t read for Scil w itoe' l f 10 0 , selcc wat t. ' be '3l ,ando`c°: alOnLi"‘ , ord'i of 'We it gni 01.- , tWetfa t dors 04 ?-- 13 7,10 le'that - ? Trio" d tvit t ,b / :•1 her wl•4'i 't ren'efi'' 'hell" v hire I be t but I "t'' her 11"11.1 i w it!, Vl ' rifler° Ai el, rice her Iv! joc es' f the iro ° r , co l ! th ilt e ri 0 w . l ll ' P it ig O ftii i:o l6 e be bar r‘ i lie tl : c t t o . a:uof-'OOO. r rifp t he i .lO g At 'lcr t „;+° p o )ce • ti e r e einb it , 110) -I •eo 0 an d di all'id ‘lO o t seal°" § d (,0 1 4 . pu t?" -- cCa► ° Go" (1 ?" --1 0 11 1;. c f the Cf per ..-, , 7 lc ° the lL ' V it in f; 1 c 0 ; ‘ltreer:os QUEER° CORN-EXCHANGE, OCT. 13.—Having but little Essex or Suffolk Wheat left over from Wednesday's Market, fine runs from those Counties met ready sale, on full as good terms as on Monday, and picked samples ot Wheat obtained an advance of Is. per quarter, but there is not the least amendment in the inferior qualities ; Barley k is. per quarter cheaper, and very dull sale at that decline ; Oats are is. per quarter lower, having had large arrivals since Wednesday.— In Beans and Peas there is no alteration. SMITHFIELD MARKET, OCT. 13.--There was a middling: supply of all suits ot Cattle at Market this morning, and the prices remain the same as per our last quotation ; Mutton, Pork, and Veal, as per above.—The price of Hay the same as per last Market-day; Straw and Clover no alteration, .PITT .CLUB.-Yesterday being the Seventh Anniversary of the Birmingham Pitt Club, a nu merous and highly respectable Meeting of the Members was held at the Royal Hotel, N. G. CLARKE, Esq. President; HyLA HOLDEN,ES4 Officiating Vice-President. It is not in our p o wer, to give any detail of this loyal and con stitutional Meeting, onaccopnt of the l a t e ne ss of the hour at which it assembled. We can now only briefly say, that many patriotic and loyal toasts_. were given with, approNiate comments from the Chair; anti that the greatest hilarity and conviviality prevailed throughout the even ing.—(Birmingham Chronicle, 0(1.12.) NEW CHURCH AT C:llELSE.l.—Yesterday the first stone of this intended Church was laid by the Bishop of LoNpoN,with the accustomed for ntalitfes. The Duke of IVELLTNGToii:;was to have ,performed this ceremony, but hioAses brother, the Rev. G. V. NVELLE§Lry, w ard and read a letter from the Duke, statil'lg - , that he Was detained by his Majest y on some important business. LONDON JOURNALS. [DAILY .EX7'RAC'S.I FROM VIE MORNING PAPERS. .. 4 [Morning Chronicle.] If we are to. judge from the number of TIONS put by PEERS, as to whether the QU 1 4.4 , tould, consistently with what was -due 'to ,her station, allow Bergami, or any of his relations, to sit at a table with her, much stress seem to be laid on that circumstance. . Lady Chairtotte Lindsay told their Lordships, what must be well known to most of them, that the higher ranks of the Continent are much more toride— scending to their inferiora than the same. ranks in• this country are. Whnt may be considered a prOper and becoming dignity in England-would in many parts of the Continent be .considered 'in-! suiting arrogance. We remember Mr. Stewart 43..05e mentions that it is quite common in Italy for the whole of the inhabitants of a town,,froin the Duke down to the green-grocer, to meet at one and the same entertainment, and toconverse without restraint or reserve. We know that fo reigners very generally consider the behaviour of the higher ranks of our countrymen towards them as disagreeable and insulting, and that this makes them very often the subject of general hatred, and subjects them to many unpleasant scenes. Without setting up for a reformer of manners, or even presuming to queg k ion the wisdom of those of our Aristocracy, in this Coun try, we may well doubt the expediency of rigidly adhering to British etiquette in other countries. We would even go further, and say, that a regard to prudence demands, that in travelling, and still more when we reside in foreign countries, we should endeavour to avoid., as much as possible, running counter to the cus toms and even prejudices of the natives. The Queen having adopted Italy as her place of abode, and being chiefly surrounded with Ita lians, whose good will it was of importance, both to her security and comfort, that she should pos sess, acted therefore wisely in laying aside, when she could, -the stateliness and reserve of the higher ranks of this country (if ever she had as sumed them), which would only have made her an object of ill will, and perhaps hatred. Fo reigners who have only seen our Aristocracy abroad, are very much astonished at the frank ness and cordiality of our middle classes. It is, perhaps, because the Lord Chancellor has retain ed the good natured simplicity and frankness of manners of the class to which he originally be- longed in his present elevated station, - that he is so Very generally liked even by those who dib approve of his principles. . [Morning Post.] There is not, perhaps, a greater draWback: upon her MAlEsTv's case, on the score of excul patory evidence, than one which,bas been pre pared for her by the folly of her own partizans. Having declared she was innocent:before she :was arraigned, more innocent after the accusation was public, and most innocent after the witnesses were heard in support of the charge ; they have no greater degree of comparison now whereby to assert her ultra-superlative purity—extept, in deed, they adopt an idiom as vulgar as their con-. dUct has been base, and swear that she is the most innocentest person that ever was cahlen tiiated and exculpated' a priori and a posteriori But itis always thus that intemperate villainy de feats itself. No regard is paid to the ass-evera tions of those who proclaith the Queen's purity, as testified by her dependants and honest wit nesses; seeing that they asserted it quite, or rather more roundly, before one word was heard either fcir or against her. And these just.4lealing Gentry too, as we have already observed, have . the modesty to say that the tone of the Minis - - terial Press (meaning that part of the Press which has not lent itself to revolutionary mad ness and abominable guilt) has been lowered since the defence began ; because it has not chosen to follow their infamous example in en deavouring to prejudge a cause of the utmost im portance upon ex parte evidence, and interrupt the stream of, justice by every possible device, such as maltreating witnesses and falsifying 'their testimony, and threatening both :then) . - and the Judges at whose tribunal the matter lay. Be cause we dare not imitate this scandalous example to be sure, we are tame and .crest-fallen ! We are lost if we do not take•the trouble to indicate to our readers, what every reader of common understanding can see for himself, that the gross est contradictions, the moSt.amazing :rant of re collection, the most criniiiial pievarications daily characterize the proceedings' which it is our duty to lay before the public. .We these writers, that. if it costs them as little pains to re- concile these matters - as it codsus to refrain from noticing•them,:their. case is much more hopeful than we consider it to:be. But.we will do some of them the justice to confess, that where •the witnesses do not state what consists with their 'views, they have. at least the decency to dismiss the subject in a couple of lines in their- leading article.: others are holder ;.:they have sworn that yellow is purile so long that they do not .hesi tate at all in swearing that black is white. Much good may it do them thank Heaven We do not keep their consciences. The (au EEN'S favourites all wish to represent themselves of not only respectable but of noble family relation. Thus we find Carlo - Fora, the preSent favourite courier Of . herMajessy, representing himself in his examination on Monday last, as the nephew of a Duchess. rite plain and authentic fact 'its this respect is as follows :-=l i re Duchess Porlaix (wboorCatlo states t o be his aunt) was originally in a very low sitorititt; We believe that of a washerwoman. tier first husband's name was Cartati ; ber present ititshand was originally a woollen draper in Route. in a vet', .small; way ; he iisnow the principal banker in that city ; two of his sons are now in London. '.l )e Duchess has two sons lay her first husband, who are partners . i n t h e banking-house. In lat 6 and tBl7, - Porlaix was called Duke of graciano, because he had foreclosed a mortgage on that Duchy (for the estate giv'es the title,) hut we understand he afterwards relinquished that title, though be has lately taken it again,—(ibid.) [New Times.] know very well that the QUEEN'S Counsel must now be driven to the desperate arguzeut