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You caused the other lights to be put out on acco unt of pirat es ?—Yes.wa s that light necessary to steer by ?—No, it wag nOt. 'lack W hY did y ou not concea l t h e li g ht o f th e bin- ?i s t was necessary to give vent to the light _ of the binnacle s or *Olt it • Id go out. .153 r Ro. _ L ord COLVILLE—WiII you state to the t b us e Whether there was not great danger, from e bbinnacle being left open, that the light would emblown out ?—Yes, if left entirely open. ~ ,,t o ht it not have been le ft open enough to admit the air 6en'tl;l"t' giving arty considerable light ?—Yes, and yet suf art° a ll°W tne to look into the tent as it was so near. 114 at )Orr n o t a l ways o b serve d grea t pain s t a k e n oil board Ki r ; . "A to conceal the light of binnacles ?—Yes, nor hoard laig rti ish iPs; but on board such ships as this there WAS no t4 4 t . to do this. We had not all those conveniences wwere desi ra bl e. a prat h 4 t do y ou mean b y t h e wor d conven i ences . Did I un ti,4l,l;l you to s t a t e th a t you cons id e red yourself to be Cap- Master, Or Person in the charge of the Polacca during trp,, i 4 age ?---Yes, by direction of her Royal Highness, 1 took c Myself th e command of the vessel. te ta 44 You state to the Court whether or not ou had the rns u (4 perforating the top of the binnacle with ) a few boles, th a ir had a funnel let into it to rive air without exposing At, and ritnniree the risk you were exposed to from the tit ti v s You described to be hovering about ?—1 had not the 114 g up of the ship, except Its to what related to her Itoyal W„ ' : ne ", and did not know such a thing was wanted till the ‘‘,` seas actually expel ienced, or I should have done so. to tire na v i gat i on of the ship during this voyage entrust edl ,h a Yt, the shaping the course and keeping her way ?—Yes, n y l ie ... (l . her course myself, with the Mate arid the Captain'. Rene. 'nose directions was the ship navigated ?—By mine, 'ane speaking. t,p,.4tantswer is too inde fi nite, it must be clear that so itn .tip rr a trust as t h a t w hi c h re l a t e s to the steerage of the ' , "u tr rivets[ be entrusted to some one with certainty ; and I re eor. Ytin will give a more explicit auswer ?—We compared ecitunings together, and no inconvenience arose from it. !liven after that comparison who directed tire course of the urd• i e e l ?--IY3elf to the Captain, and the Captain to the sub - T h ß ` , e Quarter Masters. • li e u, as you had the charge of the navigation, how can you Th e I , at 1 6 keeping up the bintmele was a trifling matter ? ar i d ',, i4 ree of the ship was not given me until I left Augusta ; Port not observe the defect of the binnacle until the re ki:,,` the pirates. -et i Yoh no power of rectifying the state of the binnacle ? ~,re mit observe any thing was the matter with it till we Th in the parts of the pirates. tteki" , AS It seems, there were two Captains of this vessel, h, r d enough to tell me who was the person that had the a **, g ,, e , or the vessel, her stores arid prr visions, and was an -1°,11,..,;"1e for them to the owners?—The owners certainly Irtu t i; to the Captain for I had no charge of the stores or 11 , 1 i !'"s ; the Captai n, I believe, was himself a part owner. 11.1 4 t was the name of the Captain ?—Gargetlo. or t h '"e duty was it to keep the log-book ?—That of the mate Iv a e 'File mate who was a pilot. w h s it accurately kept by t hat person ?-1 do not know. b e re was the strip's reckoning kept ?—lu the general log hutaek re t presume. Y"tt do n o t know by whom that general log was kept ? tV„ • fteir, he r tent made up by your directions ?—Yes, by orders 1 ' Royal Highness. t rt the directions given to the sailors by yourself or by 11'4 " t he , persora ?—They were given by myself, in conse (...4ce of directions from her Royal Highness. It . Ylot inform the House what was the length of the tent ? is impossible for me to state the length of it. thetate the dim e nsi on s ?—I cannot say exactly. It was from "as to the main-mast. a k .'' it fixed to the mizen•mast ?—Close to it. 1 ' 4l d 0 you suppose to have been the length of the tent Wr it tr aps about t we nty-two or twenty-three feet; but I can u'e Precise. St s v much less than tire breadth of the ship was the breadth \v i e , te "t 3 bout a foot. A . - ere did the binnacle stand?—.'shaft the mixers - in. never mast. te r e You unabl e to form an idea of its dimensions ?—I '" " le rt front the amitnnaet to the m izen, but it might be or Y 3 feet. ae k f iti 1 !gilt in understanding the length of the tent to be et et- thereabouts ?—Yes, I suppose it might be. nate Ihe length to be Ip or itl) feet ?—Yes; I cannot Precisely, for 1 never measured. 4, 0 7 3 ` much less than the breadth of the ship was that of the censider about a foot. I i t hauled lip 10 the rigging on each side ?—Nearly. et„,:iefererice to the mizeit and the mainmast, whereabouts Ei'v binnacle on board the polacca ?—Near the mixer'. " rem- after ?—Abaft. t,,lttiliderstood vou to say that the communication from t he Pa the dincitg-room was always open, am I right f—lhe l 's , 4! !, e was open, but the tent covered the hatchway. seh e r 'eseending front the tent by the companion-ladder, ti : e You said before there was an open communication,what ic in e - ta r,"ld be necessarily occupied.'—Speaking as a seaman, 11, a de it myself in a second. Twe ' ti w t „ t l ia nY persons - did the crew of the polacca consist of ? { 7 1%, • ti e. I L care of the p o lacca was entrusted to yon, perhaps "n itiform us how many of them were in the habit of go hi',„,t° she h e l m i n th e ir turn ?—Three, 1 believe; 1 never ° f ly more. 3r.a ci ' often Wine they relieved?—They performed the whole trier f "nr hours, exclusive of the two hours watches from and front six to eight. "GROSVENOR.—You have said you did not know "eh t . t t „.`lereanti slept on the voyage from Jaffa, do you know tulip i rl ierortytmis or the others of her Royal Highness's ?—1 know where Hieronymus slept. te e , t , e 4 r t e . did he sleep ?-011 the larboard side, in the fore ),, "n• cppja . °Ll know where Mr. Austin slept ?—He slept on the I), t o side. suit e . 7 i "tr know where any others of her Royal Highness' s self ?—Austin slept on the larboard side, where 1 my -511 ; Hownatn, Count Schavani, and Dr. Holland, were e other side. *heat- You account for not knowing where Bergami slept, I hart Y°u knew where the rest of the suite slept ?—Because tuni ft. u PPortuniti es of seeing the others without the dining /1,1,4nd of bidding them good night. Ily You no other reason When [ )manso other reason. Z t. htet, ‘ ,„ ol ' s t FAI,NIOUTH.— aid the memorandum 'chae', 6tt have produced was copied by your clerk, and also s 'ot '", what did you mean?—Count Schavani wrote the prodeced from my dictation. ) ,,, ) , (n1 n.eati one and the satire memorandum now in Court h o 43 copied front one that I had made. 1144 Y o u Mean to say that the document front which you b o Yo ur InentorandUms is now in existence ?—No, it is not. , th em I r ° l l Mean t o say tha t t your clerk, or Schavani, copied The t , ( t nt that?-1 dictated to him. to la n , ;'ehavani slid not copy from the log ?—No , I dictated Is th ' a r ont my own memorandum. do cument Wi g now in existence ?—No, I destroyed it. Ivan, Y td ou do so ?—because it was written in had Its Th e ,: did not w i s h it t o he produced on that account. 411 4 You mean to say that it was all written in Italian?— Ut Ar e very bed Italian.—(Cries of withdraw.) l 're g hl?u s,ure that that is a true copy which you have a, bet . •" — les, it was made front my memorandum. ratitii.C.tlstate that the first document was written partly in bi d "nd partly in Italian ?—lt was. tR you mean to s t ate th a t th e first log was written partly 1,4 ghat) and si i n l'• ?--The origioal log was writ- Par tlY in ra "".• I the mernoran- In, , Atglish and partly m Italian, and ttelaire I th e Ni nal Y the Fa • i n . • • r of I.ALIYERDALE.—When did you destroy „, it aper cannot remember the day. bid ,ou "rihin these few days ?-1 cannot say exactly.. ( "troy it immediately after it was color, Iti l i )l t a diat ehe after. • You risk Schavani to write for you, or did he begin the tkr (111 " , : st tt hrrs which l e d to h i s wr i t i ng f or y o u ?—I asked hint „ ton. 4l itth er s e s ` ti d you find Schavani ?—At the house of her Royal )3 ,,,,Y0 u 1ive there ?--No. 4re"„rY:; )s4 frequently there ?—I hare not been there fo r these •• . " You h a d many conversations with Schavani ?—No. rep, t , You mean to tell th e H ouse t h a t you go t Scharani to It ' y 4e . stietnoranatim and thenvon destroyed it ?—Yes. e~ellUCty KING - lIA M— " " sl--C a n you that • > t ~ r Yr You looked into h tent ' you saw her Royal High Aft ittr „V the rumours were confirmed that pirates were hover ro,c‘,,te'..slid You take any me a n s t o diminish the light?— fir ""es a flag was thrown over it—sometttnes not. sJ , ta,,, d _ 7 eecesions, did it nev er occur to you to put the rights so low, that th e y could not be seen ?—.-The lights of the binnacle were very low down, not above a foot and a half high. and the bulwark was so high that the lights could not be seen by persons soy distance from the ship. How did you look into the tent ?—By lifting up the canvass. Several questions were then put to the witness respecting the arrangement of the births below, which elicited nothing remarkable. The witness said he had always seen Bergami dressed, The Duke of CLARENCE—How long have you been Mid shipman ?—Eight years. How long a Lieutenant ?—Eleven years. You have seen nineteen years' service then ?—Yes. You have spoken of the binnacle on board the polaeca; I wish to know how the light shone forward ?—By an upeoing. Of glass or wood ?—I am not positive, but believe it was wood. If it was wood, did it go up and down, or athwart the ship? —Athwart. Having stated that the safety of the vessel demanded that there should he as little light as possible, I wish to know if you could not from your knowledge have kept the light ar ranged in such a manner as to make it shine towards sea ? The front part of the light was nut put in, for fear the light should go out. Could you not, with your experience as a seaman, keep the front closed and the light in ?—Yes, by snaking large holes above the lights. Why, then, did you not make them, if the safety of the ship depended on the light not being Seen would have ad mitted the water over the light. What water ?—Rain or sea water. What was the upper part of the binnacle through which the sm,ske must have gone ?—.A bulged leaden pipe. Was it flat, or was it raised ?—lt fell in. In the course of the 19 years that you have been at sea, did you ever see a binnacle with lead which fell in before ?—On board the ships in the Mediterranean. My question is, why was the lead on board that ship the reverse of what it is on board all the British ships of war ?--I did nut know of it when I first went on board. Does the witness mean to say that after he was on board, he could not, as an experienced sailor, have altered so material a thing about the binnacle?—No. Do you not think that receiving the charge of that vessel with such a person as the Princess of Wales for a passenger, it was your duty to have rectified the binnacle before you began your voyage ?—I did nut observe it till we had left Sicily. HoW Many days was it before you touched at a port ? One night. Where did you first hear of the pirates ?—At Milo ; but we did not believe it till we got to Constantinople. Were no means taken then to alter the binnacle ?—lt would have taken two or three days. Do you pretend to say that at the different ports you touched at, von could not have got the binnacle altered ? Yes, but I thought it in sufficient repair. ltid it stand in the midship ?—Yes. Abaft the mizen ?—Yes. What was the tent on the deck made of ? —Cotton. How was it fastened on the deck ?—lt was a common ship tent, mid was fastened to a ridge that went round the hatch way. Where was the hatchway ?—lnside the tent. You looked, you say, into the tent frequently ?—Yes. Why was the light handed out don't know, I never saw it. It stands so in evidence as stated by you. Mr. DeNstaN—Not by this witness. In her Royal Highness's chamber, was there one door or two?—One divided into two. What length was the cabin ?—About ten feet. How many sofas were there in it ?—Two, spliced together. What space was there between the sofas and the larboard side ?—Fire sr six feet. Suppose the double doors were open, could the bathing tub go in ?—No, there was not room. Are you positive ?—Yes. The Duke of CLARENCE.—I have done, my Lords. Lord KINGSTON.—Were the sofas taken from her Royal Highness's room.—Fes.—(Cries of withdraw.) The Earl of BALCARRAS desired the witness might be called back.—The following questions were put by the Noble Earl : I wish to ask whether you kept a private log, or whether you entered memoranda occasionally its the . log book of the ship ?-1 can't say. Did you consider yourself entitled to correct, alter, or con firm the regular log-book of the ship?—No. Did the roaster regularly report to you ?—Never any thing respecting the log. Had you ever any punishment on board ?—No. Did he report to you as a Lieutenant of the Navy, and to his superior officer ?—He:addressed me as Commandant of the ship on all occasions. Did you pot find this sort of half command inconvenient, and contrary to the good conduct of the ship ?—I cannot say that I ever experienced negligence duty orders from any part of the crew, or from the Captain. Did you assume that command pro forma on her Royal Highness coming on board, or was it by virtue of a charter. party ?—I took the command by her Royal Highness's order, and the Captain consented that I should have the entire cons. wand. And do you consider that the ordinary rules of the Navy? (The cries of withdraw here, inducer . ' the Noble Ear : l to waive this question, and the witness retired.) Mr. CARRINGTON now appeared at the Bar, and was examined by Lord MELVILLE. Q. You said to the Counsel who examined you on Saturday that you kid been a midshipman prior to your being in the service of Sir W. Gell ? —A. Yes, I did, with Sir John Beresford. You were asked if you had been in any other ship except the Poictiers, and you said no?-1 meant that I was under the command of Sir .1. Beresford, hut I had been its other ships. You said you had been in the merchant service, and then on land, and then a midshipman in the Poictiers; is that an swer correct ?—Yes. You were asked if you had been on board any other King's ship before the Poictiers, and you said no; is that true?-1 thou4ht the question related as to any other ship under Sir .1. Beresfor , l; I served in no other under him, but I was on hoard other ships, the Majestic and another. Did you enter voluntarily or not ?-1 was pressed. Did you serve as Midshipman in the other ships ?—No, as Quarter-master, in the Majestic for four or five years. You said you had been in the merchant's service, then on land, where were you on land ?—I was bred and born on the sea coast—sometimes in boats, sometimes at sea, and some times on land. Have you served on hoard any other ships than what you have mentioned ?—Yes ; I was on heard the Namur before the Majestic, with the same Captain, and I was two months on board a brig. Were you ever in any other 7 —Nev er . Yost have stated that you were at sea in the merchants' ser vice when a boy, and that vou were on land , an d g ot a liveli hood as well ao you could was bred and born on the sea coast. Sometimes I was in the merchants' service, sometimes in coast,,rs, and sometimes on land. How long were you in the merchants' service ?—I always Got my livelihood in that kind of way when a boy. When questioned why you left the Navy, you said you did not like the sea, and that Sir J. Beresfurd got your discharge? I did. In reply to another question, when asked if perfectly clear that you left the service at your own request, you answered noshing else ?—Nothing else. You mean to say you left the service entirely at your own request ?—Yes. Do you mean to say that it was not at the request of Sir Gell ?—He was the medium of my request. The witness then proceeded very circumstantially to relate the cause of his desire to quit the service,and delivered himself to nearly the following effect :—" When Sir Win. Gell was on hoard the Poictiers I had it in my power to spew him some at tention, at which he expressed himself much pleased, He said-1 have it not in my power to reward you in a pecuniary way, hat ask any thing within my power and you shall have it ; perhaps I may he able to do you sonic good °dices with Sir John Beresford. 1 told him that tho best piece of service which he could render me would be the obtaining for me my discharge ; for as I was not able to appear on the quarter-deck in the character of a geutlennin. as I wished, it was my strong desire to leave the navy. Sir William appeared surprised at my request, and said, Are you sure you would lather leave the Nary ?' 1 assured him 1 would. The next morning, Sir William spoke to me again on the same subject, and said, he hoped I had altered my mind ; hut I persisted in my de sire, and Sir Wm. Gel! was then kind enough to speak to Sir John Beresford on the subject. In consequence of that, one of the officers spoke to me, and said, an application had been made. by Sir Wm. Gel! An your behalf, stating that you wish to be discharged. Surely, you must be out of your senses to desire to leave the Navy. I again stated my wish, and the reason for it. Sir William a third time sent to rue to know whether 1 adhered to my former resolution, I stated that I did ; and in consequence, I had a ticket given me for leave of Absence. I was then asked if my resolution was un altered. I stated that it was. On the expiration of the time limited by the ticket for leave of absence, 1 waited en Sir John Beresford. Sir John again questioned me as to my de sire to quit the service, and finding that nothing could shake my resolution, be observed,---' Very swell, you may then con sitter yourself at your own disposal, and may go where you like, but always apply to use when you have occasion.' Atter I had been abroad two years I Saw Sir John 'again ? and ie formed him I had nut received the arrears of my pay. He I will give you a letter to the Gentlemen at Somerset House, which will enable you to receive the pay.. " He ac cording gave met the letter, which took to Somerset House, and I received the pay. By Lord MELVILLE.—After having delivered this state ment, do you mean to adhere to your former answer that it was at your own desire you left the service ?—I do. Did not Sir William Gell apply for your discharge ?—He told me any thing I desired he would endeavour to obtain fur me, and I requested his influence to procure my discharge, as I have told you. Do you know Sir Wm. Gell's hand-writing have seen hint write. Do you think you should know his hand-writing if you were to see it ?—I think I should. (The Noble Viscount here handed a letter to the witness. first desiring that it aright he marked by the Clerk of tine House.) Do your believe that letter to he Sir William Gell's hand writing ?—Yes, I think it is, tint I cannot say positively. I understand you then to say, that you did not obtain any regular discharge o —l obtained nothing' but what Sir J. Be resford gave rae. He gave rue a letter written in his own band, and a printed paper. You say that you were never turned off from the Poictiers to any other ship ?—No. You say that you were never turned over from the Poictiers to any other ship?—No. The Duke of CLARENCE observed, that the witness had answered to a former question, that he had no other ship than the Poictiers since 1807, and as he (the Duke) was about to make a cotunsunication to the House, he requested the witness might be ordered to withdraw. The witness was accordingly ordered to withdraw. The Duke of CLARENCE then proceeded to state, he would inform their Lordships of the motives which had actu ated himself, and several brother officers. [Here the illustrious Duke was interrupted by the Lord Chancellor, wiio stated, that it was very unpleasant for Idol to he under the necessity of interrupting the illustrious Duke; but he (the Lord Chancellor) apprehended, that it was not strictly regular for a Peer to state his motives to that House.] 'Fire Duke of CLARENCE—Am I to understand, by the Noble and Learned Lord, that I am only to put questions, and not to state the reason why I ask them ' The LORD CHANCELLOR—I should think not. 'I he Duke of CLARENCE thanked the Noble and Learned Lord. He was much obliged to his Lordship for putting lints right when he was out of order. He was also much obliged to tine Counsel for her Majesty whenever he proposed any im proper question and they objected to it, and he felt it due to state that no man breathing could admi:e more than he did the abilities of the Learned Counsel at the Bar. (The witness was then recalled.) Examined by the Duke of CLARENCE.—When you an swered to a former question that you had not served on board any other of his Majesty's ships than the Poictiers, did you understand the question to apply to your service under Sir John Beresford did. Were you turned over from the Majestic to the Poictiers ? —I was. Did you do immediate duty on the quarter deck ?—No; I acted as Quarter-Master. Did you not state on Saturday that you had acted as mid shipman immediately after going on board the Poictiers ? (Cries of " No, no !''_front the House.) The Duke of CLARENCE.—Then the whole is quite satis factory. By the Marquess of LANSDOWN.—Did you consider the request made by Sir W. Gell to Sir J. Beresford, the same as if it had been made by yourself ?—Certainly. By Lord COLVILLE.—Were you rated as a Midshipman from the tinse you joined the Poictiers ?—I do not know whe ther I was rated when 1 went on board, but fwas when I left, as I saw upon my ticket. What kind of ticket was it ?—A ticket of leave of absence, which Sir John Beresford gave me with his own hand. You say that you received the pay at Somerset House; had you any voucher upon which you received it ?—I had Sir Joint Beresfurd's letter to a Gentleman in Somerset House, upon which the money was paid. By Lord EXMOUTH.—Then you did not. do duty on board the quarter-deck of the Poictiers ?—No; I had not cluatbs to appear as a alidshipman, and did trot. Did you stand in any relation to Sir J. Beresford ?—No. Were you ever in his service ?—No. You said whets you were in the merchant service you got your living its boats, on tine sea and land; where were you horn ?—At St. Osreith, near Colchester. And at Colchester you got your living by fishing ?—Yes; sometimes by fishing, and sometimes as a pilot. Lord ELLENBOROUGH—You were asked if you were in his Majesty's service before you were in the Poictiers, and you said no; did that mean then that you were never in any other ship, or that you had not beers ins any other ship uitiler the command of Sir J. Beresford ?—I meant under tine command of Sir J. Beresford. Air. BROUGHAM.—Were you ever dismissed for misconduct front any ship ins his Majesty's service ?—Never. Were you ever charged with misconduct in any of those ships ?—Never. Were you ever punished fur any misconduct ?—Never. Had you any quarrel with any Officer or person on board ? —Never. Had you any one thing in your conduct during the whole of that period, that you wished to conceal ?—Not one. Did you always give satisfaction to the officers ?—To every one, which Sir Joists Beresford will state :tad has stated to Lord Exmouth. Did you receive tickets of gourd conduct from your Officers every time you were turned over from one ship to another ? I did, arid was always strongly recommended. Mr. BROUGHAM proposed to examine this witness to a fact which would have been asked on Saturday, but for an oversight of his Learned Friend, Dr. Lushington, who ex amined the witness, in turning over two leaves of his brief. The question was in all tine five briefs, and he hoped tine House would allow the question to be put now to the witness. The question was this :—On the journey, before her Ma jesty arrived at Naples, did not young Austin sleep in a bed its a room separate from that where her Majesty slept, and whether he did not make the bed of W. Austin ? Dr. Lusunedzose stated, that just at the time he was going to put that question, a paper was put into his hand which withdrew at the moment his attention from the question. It was a most important question , and he hoped the advantage of it would not he denied to his Royal Client. The LORD CHANCELLOR thought the question might be put, which was done accordingly. Did you ever on the journey to Naples make any beds ?-1 assisted in making them. Did you ever assist in making the bed of Wm. Austin ?—I .have assisted. Was that in the bed-room of her Royal Highness ?—Some times it was, and sometimes not. Where there was room it was not. By the ATTORNEY-GENERAL—Do you mean to swear that you made the bed for William Austin in another room more than otter ?—Yes • more than once or twice, though I do not recollect exactly the number of times. did, titof yo th u e fo i r .r t i h n e ce fi L s , t s time l i r n, e i_a r to the et first r e setd b eftsout:iioesfvwyj William recollections, u believe, as, , ons at Domodocella, but I am not certain. Where besides ?—I do not recollect the name of the place, but it was in our way through Italy. By Lord LAUDERDALE —When you made the bed was there more than one bed its the room ?—There was another belonging to the lionise. Did you make unruly Austin's bid in that room, did the other remain unmade know that he slept there; but I know not whether the other bed was made. The witness withdrew. Lieut. ROBERT HOWNAM examined. By Mr. TYNDAL.—Q. You are a Lieutenant in liis Majesty's Royal Navy ?—A. I am. How long have yais been a Lieutenant ?—Since the early part of the year 1809- Where do you live at present ?—At Rouen, in Trance. Did yon at any tunic gun to Italy with her Royal Highness the Princess of Wales ?—I When was it you went there ?—ln the month of April, 1815. Where was her Royal Highness at that time ?—At Genoa. How lang did sine remain at Genoa after you joined her ? About si' weeks. l/o yts you re c ollect in the course t yo u the r w , e ii r g e h a t t ? Genoa, a ny disturbance happening What was the nature of the disturbance ?--at was supposed there was an attempt to break into the house. Was there any alarm in the night ?—There was. Did you get up ins consequence ?—Yes, 1 did. Where did you go ?-1 went to the great 11.01. Whin did yeti see there ?—The first person I saw was 13cr gami, why came into my room. Did he give you the alarm ?—lle did. Had he a candle ?—He had. Was Majucci there ?—lie was. Was you there before Majocci ?—1 was there before Me ucci. Who did yon find in the hall when you got there ?-41ie Princers and many of the servants.' • • •• _ During the time you WAS at Genoa, did you evci.bieiliflit— wit h the Princess ?—Never. _ _ Did you ever see her at breakfast ?—I bare. At the time you saw her Royal Highness at breakfast, was Bergami breaktasting with lierr—l-le was not. Did you ever know bins breakfast at Genoa with bee Royal Highness?—Never. Were you in the habit of dining with her M; Injesty whilst at Genoa ?—Every day. Did Bergami dine at her Majesty's table any day whilst you were at Genoa ?—Never. Do yo■ recollect at what place it was Bergami first begiii eat . dine at the table of her Royal Highness ?—1 do nourrcellett the name of the place; it was in the course of the journey user Mount St. Gotliard. _ _ . Do you recollect the date of the journey?—lt was in the . month of August, 1815. From that time did Bergatili dine regularly at the table, of. her Royal Highness ?-115 did not dine regularly till 'some ; time after. • What was the place of residence of her Majesty when Ber gami began to dine ?--Villa d'Este. Do you recollect to what place the Princess went after sbe lett Genoa ?—To Milan. Do you remember where her Royal Highness was at,the Casa, /loront• a 7—l do. • Do you remember the staircase and landing, upon which her Royal Highness's door opened ?—1 do. Was it a staircase leading to a single room, or did it lead to • other apartments?—!t led to the set valuta' apartments; it led to my apartment. Were there any other persons who went up the staircase to the sleeping apartments?—lt led to the chambers of all the lower servants. Do you know whether it was used by all the servants go ing to their sleeping apartments ?—I do not recollect. Was it the staircase you was in the habit of using ?—lt was. Do you know whether, if any door at the top of the stair case was locked, no other person than Bergawi could get'to the Queen's apartnien; ?-1 do not know that. Where did you go when you left Milan ?—To Venice. What time was it when her Royal Highness took np tier residence at Villa . d'Este ?-1 think about the latter end of - September. Did yon know the situation of the rooms occupied by her Royal Highness and Bergami at Villa D'Este ?-1 recollect where her Royal Highness slept, but 1 cannot say where Bei gami slept. Were the stairs near the door of her Royal Highness's sleeping apartment?-=There was a flight of stairs which ltd to her Royal Highness's room. Was there a door at the top of the stairs ?—I cannot say. Do you recollect in the long voyage being at Tunis 1-1 ;to. Did you accompany her Majesty during the lung voyage ? I did. Do you recollect where Bergami slept at Tunis ?—Yes, I recollcctthey pointed me out Bergaini's room. Was tie room you saw near the room a her Royal High ness ?—No, it was not. Describe, if you please, the different situations of the two rooms ?—Bergann's room was the only room on the flight of stairs. I never saw any other person there. Where was her Royal Highness's room ?—There were three or four rooms separated it from Bergami's room. Was Bergatni's room on the same story ?-Isio, it was not, it was on the stairs. Was her Royal Highness's room on the ground floor I—We did not occupy the ground floor. Then on which fluor was your room ?—On the floor occu pied by the household. Do you remember going, whilst at Tunis, to Utica ?—I do. Did you use a house at Utica ?—We did not. Where did the parties sleep during the heat of the day ? In the ruins of a Palace of a Prince of the House of Cassa hella. Was you on heard the polacca ?-1 was. Describe if there was any separation between that part which belonged to the Captain, and the part which belonged to her Royal Highness and suite ?—They were quite distinct ; they were separated by a balk-head. Had the Captain any duty to perform which called him to any part of the vessel occupied by her Royal Higlinesi ? None whatever. Did you know in what part of the vessel the water closet was appropriated to the women ?—There were two : one its her Royal Highness's cabin, the otter in the cabin of the Countess Oldi. Had the Captain any ditty to perform which took him to that part where the water closets were I—None whatever. Did you ever see the Captain whilst you were on board near that pact of the vessel ?—Never. Do you recollect landing and proceeding to Ephesus ? I do. \Vhat was the name of the place where her Royal High ness sh-pt on the night of her landing ?—The plains of Ephesus. What conveniences were there to enable the parties to sleep there I—A shed was erected. Did her Royal Highness sleep under this shed ?—She did. How was the shed constructed ?—lt was formed by houghs or planks, 1 ant not certain which. %Vas it enclosed or open ?—Open. Where did the suite of her Royal Highness sleep ?—All round her. Did you sleep near her Royal Highness among the rest of her suite ?—1 did. Do you remember where her Royal Highness dined on the day you were at Ephesus ?—ln the church-yard, behind where she slept the night before. What did you dine under I—The portico of an old mosque. Did she dine alunel—We all dined together. Do you mean to say, you recollect that you all dined toge ther?-1 recollect must perfectly we dined together. How did you contrive to sit on that occasion ?—We sat oa the ground ; her Majesty sat on a travelling bed. Did any body sit with her oil the travelling bed'—No. Are you sure no person sat with her ?—No person sat with her. Did the rest of the suite sit near her Majesty during the time of dinner ?—Yes. Are you certain of that ?—I am convinced as to having dined myself near her Majesty, and I believe others did.' Do you recollect whether the Countess Oldi had a tent 1— I cannot recollect that, but I am convinced we all dined to gether. Where did you re embark ?—At Est ra Nova. Where did you go ?—To St. Jean d'Acre. Had you been before that at Constantinople?—Yes, before that. How long did you remain at Constantinople ?—Twelve or fourteen days, or more. Did you see her Royal Highness in any house there ?—Yes. What house ?—The Palace of the British Minister. how long did her Royal Highness remain there ?—qte was in the Palace of the British Minister two or three days. What was the name of the Minister ?—M. Frere. Do you know whether he is alive ?-1 never heard of his deatb. In the course of the voyage you landed at St. Jean d'Acre ? —Yes. In What way did her Royal Highness travel from St..)eall d'Acre to Jerusalem?—Upon an ass. Is it usual in that part of the world to travel under a pa lanquin ?—Yes. How did you travel ?—On a horse. Was it the course of travelling to proceed by night, and lie by in the day ?—lt was. In what manner did her Royal Highness rest during the day ?—Under a tent. Did you observe whether her Royal Highness when she laid by in the day appeared fatigued I—Excessively so. Did that appear the case during the whole of the journey from St. Jean D'Acre to Jerusalem ?—Yes. Did you make any particular observations as to this fatigue; she fell from the ass, more than once ?—Yea. 1)o you mean towards the early part of the night, or towards morning ?—Towards the morning. Was there any tent on deck on board the polacca during the vovage to St. Jean D'Acre ?—Yes, there was. In the other voyage was the tent used as a temporary tent? Occasionally a tent was erected to protect her Royal Highness from the sun and wind. It was in fact the awning of the ship. Did William Austin embark on the return voyage ?—Yes, he d.d. Was the weather hot at the time her Royal Highness sal on hoard ?—Excessively hot, It was i n t h e mont h of July. Had you any cattle on board ?—We had. What did it consist of?—Horses and asses. Had you snore animals on the return voyage, than the voyage out ?—We had none on the voyage out. its what part of the vessel were these animals kept ?—ln the hold. Did they make any —yes; they made the no th th general noise made by horses, and d they accessioned Ft strong smelt. ise in e course of► e night or ay ? Was her Royal Highness inconvenienced by those animals being put in the hold?—Yes, she was. Where did her Royal Highness. sleep, in the voyage Jr‘ra Java homewards ?—Under a tent on deck. . By whose direction was this tent 'put op ?-117 direct of the Princess. ~'~