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'sake ►the Ole Was ";eSta blisinal of the necessity of soiree Legislative inter ference -; bet the consideration of the manner which that 'interference still remained, and on that point it beCame a serious question whether they were sufficiently informed to decide. The first - onestion was, the regulation of the price at which the hnportation of Corn may by- admissible ? That..vieis. fixed by ahe Bill -at- - .Upon this peoijahieht po'nt,. it was . first niost mat e ri a l to tiodder, Wh e th er tl,ey were suffiCiently inform e d ro.fiz it at that' y r i ce ? Thte evident* adduced fur . nished no clear or possible data for such an enact ment. Much -contrariety of sentiment prevailed 4anong the witnesses as to that point. tuntiop of this proposition, Iris Lordship referred senneWhat in detail to the evidence adduced. On the question of the price at ithich , rbe Corn rowels eotild'offord th . ceadenissioit - 01 . -. 7 importa - iionse moth iliffereOce of 4pini.on.prevailed, INlr e Custance thought•ih-could-not be less than 965., front 90s. to 100 s. Art her witness c a l cu l a t e d i t -e we e • - • - P7:1_,.; an t otlte e'thotight it should . be from 87s. to' , looste - :11.1k.: Bennet thought 965., Mr. Turnbull, andeSonie- ethers at 84s. and at 80s.— A ; er'eat pr'oprotion of theWitnesSes were for hav ing the price' Helier than:B.os. Another class of the witnesses expressed their opinions that 'the exPences of agriculture Were infinitely higrili: 7 r. than Huey ought to he. Ile' nicant not to impute. th( , least improper motives, but most of these wit -th.s ies li-ere persOns whose interests were more or less implicated; this certainly was no reflection up“;rl the parties, but the con iderefion was gene rairy attended to in the estimation or evidence givca ; but even among these a great ditfereoce of opinion prevailed as the price which would be 0 sUf!icietit piotection.to. the former. There were some. however,. particularly amons those exa mined be the House of Commons, ‘vho state, that 4-much less price than SOs. would be a sufficient protection to the farmer. Some of these were re ferred to by his Lordship, and in whose state ments also unfelt contrariety of opinion prevailed. Ile was of opinion that when Wheat was at I SI. tw 201. a load, it would he sufficient. 'Another, the price of 72s should be sufficient protection, and one thought, .and which he admitted; on his farther exstnioatione that even 645. wOuhl soffi ciently remunerate the fanner. Others admitted that 755. B.ls. or limn 72s to 755. would b e suf ficient tor-the purpose. With such a_specilica ,t.ion of . evidence before the House, upon what pround, or principle, could the 110tise proceed to 80s.. as the price ? But in that:view, if they had not sufficient ground for legislating, on the sobject with respect to England, how much stronger were not the objections, when applied to freland ? ft _was obsert able the far greater part of the Petitions in support of the proposed mea sure came front that country. lie would first al lude to a particular fact, namely, that before their Lordship's Committee there was not a tittle of evidence, as to the rate•at which Corn could be grown in Irel a nd. Before the Commons there was sonic' evidence upon' the point, but to.differ eta etiect lit•:e the rest ; hilt its general result was, that a much less price was sufficient to protect t:he Irish fanners, than for those in this country. Zut they titre aware from other sources .of infor mation that Coro could be grown there at a less rate than had been stated.. As far as respected li'd.tntl, therefore there was no proof that the Inca s Are was accessary. The effect of it must be to give a decided advantage to the Irish Corn Grower, and eventually to raise the rents of the La»tl owner in that Country, at the exnence of the people of England. In this view also, the mea sawe mnst he totally inefficient, as to the protec tion of the English Farmer. • As Ireland, in con shonence attic large remittances she is obliged to make to this country, will send in vast quantities of Corn, aad ondersell the Euglish Fanner at his o‘vienhirkets. considerations were all ad • ditionel colts for further enquiry, and these it»- portant facts ote e ht to be clearly ascertained, be fore they ventured to pass such a Bill as that now before the House. The circumstances Of the im portation of C. 0.0 from various parts of the Con tinent of late years, he next advet red to, and front the view he took of these, Argued that enquiry was the more necessary. In this part of the subject lie rCferred principally to the evidence of Mr. Sainaul Scott anti of Mr. Barrett, and with a view to the argument urged in favour of the meaultre trout .the magnitud e o f recent i mportat i ons, h e 'contended, that tut fair decisive conclusions could be drawn, as these proceeded from the extyn sive speculations that were made in the ar ticle, in the expectation of the meteitire now before the House. These Opinions may he all false or erroneous ; but they were such as sliewed 'the necessity of enquiry before they proceeded to the adoption of a measure upon which the opi nions of the people of England were so strongly expressed. A vi e w o f t h e present internal and external circumstances of the country would also. chew the necessity of ftwther enquiry. Admittiug even, for the sake of argument, that SOs. was the right price, yet the difficulties of ascertaining that price were:considerable ; it was an ackhOwledg'ed fact, that the averages were taken in such a way as to lead to a most ernineous result. The 12, maritime districts, which for these were put toge ther, by which , means . the sandiest district in Wales, where not 100 quarters were imported, contributed as much to the estimating the ave rages as the city of London with it§ immense po- The difference bet Ween the average and the real prices %vete in fact considerable, and this part of the subject: too, contributed to skew the necessity of investigation. Another objec tion against fixing the price at SOs. may be looked for in the existing state of the circulation, and lie helievt(l a NOble Friend of his (we imagine the Earl of Lamlerdele) would hardly coutend, that sitCh was not tutu important consideration with reference to what was the difference of calculated value between the former currency of titeconntry, the returit of which was to he so much desired, and, the present niediffin of paper; and in this view the Noble Earl made some brief calculations as tO the prices of gold at differ:2ot periods.— There were, however, some additional iocitements, and those of • more immediate interest,: which called for serions, investigation. He. meant the alleged calculation, that the price of 80s. would insure a permanent, price to bread of I (id. for the quartern loaf. This haul been controverted by . . hers eniet-taining tliff e 're n 't s'e l Althent. errors In the mode of taking the assize Of bread', which loudly called for tegulatiOn, constituted ad ditional:grounds : for enquiry. He Shinild - urge this proceeding without the least delay, because it may lead to certain specific regulations, tending to efreet a reduction in the price of bread to the people of this country ; a circumstance_ which would materially tend to 'allay that spirit of dis content which !lbw so Unfortunately prevailed. Above all others the question was most important to those concerned or interested in the agricak ture girgland; as it involved the consideratiOn whether or not 80 shillings was to ,be regarded as a species of standard price ? for if Corn could not be imported at. less than .80 shillings, and importation to take. place every year, then that price must be paid 'for it. If that price were to remain, no 'country in Europe could afford to take it of the English farmer at that price, and this serious consideration called for chase enquiry, before the 'price of 80s. should, be determined upon. The landholders, and more especially the labouring poor, who depended upon them, were more interested in the investigation he proposed, than perhaps any other set of men. In many. parts of the country, these were now in circum stances of much distress. There was no neces sity whatever for preeipi!ating the measure. now before the House. The imptirtation sent ts,•holly suspended, and u:oald he so for some time longer, and they had ample time for cosi deration and enquiry, ere they should he called npon to tinsk.e such a considerable' sacrifice as that involV e d y the Bill. SOme general advansageou s arrangement may arise Out of the enviry, Peel the condition of every class_ of people in the country - MaY be greatly ameliorated, in which trnste,ftlic '''iovernnicut would aiftird the 6:ample in economising- and reducing the establishments anti expenditures in every tvav; that may he found practicable ; and he donined not' their Lordship s would do their 'Outies in cowl-11)11ring to the ef feetnation of such measures. But ho repeated, the enquiry vvhs most important for the' aarktd tn.! al class ; their interests shOuld he properly lin derstowl, and the pledges made. to then] should he redeemed, and this could in n o way b" done, so well as by an effectual enquiry. But the inte rests of all, commercial or landed, were more or less essentially concerned, for no measure which was prejudicial to the one could he beneficial to the other. - Welt danger may arise from -pteciptation, but hone . could result from deliberate in vestigation, and the gdod sense of the people of England was always such that they uniformly'tle cidetl ,in favour of the good cause, when it was fairly and satisfactorily laid before them. Upon the WhOle,• he would strenuously recommend and solemnly adjure their Lordships to decide for the. further investigation which was called for by the interest of all, but most especially by those of the a'grictiltarists; and the reSlirt, lie felt confident; would tend more than any thing else to allay, and 'finally to obviate that spirit •of discOntent which unfortunately prevailed; am4"wltiels had:So dis gracefully manifested itself ; and Would conclude, by moving that their Lordships, previous to a de cision upon the Corn Bill, would go .into an ea, dairy into the subject at- the bar of the liouse. Earl of DERBY, without going into the Ties tion of the Petitions, must der;iare-t4tst he feit tij e _ subject to be el titled to the utmost consideration of the House ; they should pause and give time_ for investigating it in all its bearings'. He would therefore give his cordial assent to his 'Nobl e Friend's !notion, to whom the House and the country ought to feel doubly obliged; as besides affording full opportunity for discussiou, it would enable many noble persons to retract their II ates Opinions upon the subject. Earl of FIARDWICKE considered the enquiry : that bad taken place on the subject of Corn, to be as perfect as any enquiry could be. 1 since was a'count r y producing alwaYS More Corn than !., she Could consume, and 'therefore we could al ways procure a snpply, either directly from her, or by the way 'of Germany. and Holland. The greatest pains had been - taken by the Committee (cf . Inquiry, of which he had been the Chair:llan, and he himself had made eVery possible effort t o procure intelligence on the important subject.---.. In fact, the Lommittee had gone as fully itittklitt inquiry as any Committee that ever sat. The Earl of - LIMERICK spoke its favimr of Irish Agricul"ture. Ile contended that the olject o f the Noble Lord was to keep the Irish landholder from deriving any advantage front the expOrt of Corn to England—(llls Lordship was called to' order.) • Earl GREY in explanation, said that hid opi nion Was, that the Irish agriculturist would be able to mulct - se)! the English farmer, and 'there fore the Bill would be insufficient. It was copse seTiently right to enquire whethersuch would be the effect or not, before the - House proceeded with it. • The Earl of LIMERICK replied, that the vast importation of Corn froth tlw Netherlands of late had almost•been the ruin of Ireland. Th e popu lation-i7f-Irehind now exceeded six millions, two- . thii7isrof: whom were engaged in agriculture._ These four millions, now unable to continue their former pursuits, petitioned for. encouragetneiA ; they only wished to be enabled to export Corn frthn Ireland, and to return the manufactures of this country: ' The benefit that they would give was therefore as great as that which they would receive. Earl SPENC ER was anxious to• state his reasons ,for giving his vote for the ruotion. It was the ;duty or the House to give due 'consideration to the, interests of all classes, and the on!v question was; .whethernrotection was to be afforded with one's eyes shut or open ? His Lordship entered upon a review of the evidence, and contended that many things bad Occurred since last year, which placed the subject in a new light ; and conidering the. situation in which the country was now placed, a .cothplete inquiry was equally as important as-ne ,cessary, Every body knew that the minds of men wyre mine apt to be inflamed On this. than on any other question, 'and' without the advantage of the fullest consideration, its merits could not be as.; certained.: Ile trusted, however, that the House Ironicl proceed with Calmness in its' investigations, . The Earl of HARDwicKE explained. Lord ST. Jontv said if the motion had been made earlier in the Session it should have had his , .... , •;t ,, • vote - - Frbiir Iliei - ,ittinclon in Winch we tore r.oW swirat Cal tat coned be applies! to tilt , : “. 1 mit . e hly plmiced-, it was impossible that :my good could re. j Whether it would not he expeatied les'."; i' r .„ e :s? stilt from delay. . ~. i. . • cut agrimiltrire than Op other hi ranch( O . m i. ' i l l ' u titi - evh i e e Lord litiutSt.F.Y felt greArpleasore in voting for He dust insi - ft that there was nothinir the inlkliry. . . - ( e p la .1. , • ~. _ .as3s • I r iSeolint Si DNiOU'i * ;d i ' iiliJi there r(itild be no Floile - ill IL.l slitiOw . erii • liei;-lv • • ih e ll '''. c , doubt whatever that time litestion oils, of .all : profc§se(l to Protect the farniel - infi St ) ''' ".• :o af others, that which Most affeeted .the great iinte- i' rid as the iirotecting price ; yet in the ;te- a s '" wtee .rests of society at Lirge. He thought that the i not only wits there great variety et 0 1 1i "k"'n . jeto the proposition of the NOble Earl for an iinpirey. •I price; but the price, whatever it was; re ste `, rip , i to bright norto be agreed to minder the present cir:. j hen ! State charges. It would be much wisL fin li p conistanceS. It : was not possible to mention airy legislate at all on this subject,' for to win% side , subject with 'respect to which their Lordshipi alternative would they be driven ?. 0 " On , ( 0 14 wer e in possession of so ranch iiiforniatitin, not . supposing the Bill to - raise the price of Cor ra o! inersly fur a short time 'past, but &tiring- the ! unless such were itg intention and effect he l .th . c, whor e of . th e last twenty VearS, or one On.. did not see what it meant), anti supP s "e. e 'ioe which s o many publications of great.. abilittehad , price of labour to rise also, 'would it not. o l l , ‘• Coo ,. made their appearance.. 00 ail occasions oti : to Elie serious depression of - apiculture, an d taii the question of Corn, from 1791 to laht&,. j sequeutly ot trade and commerce ? - Bu t :er 1804, aim(' thence . down: to •the last- year.„ I price of bread should increase, am! the Priceorc', time same principles, had been pursued, anti , the boor not increase with it, lie would ask their i 1 1,,, • evidence of .the two. Committe e s or tin! .House ' ship's whether they were prepared to -e° ' o , c es" of - Cominons, and the one of that House in the , plate so awful a e situation such circlPT l ''' awe . last year, had applied themselves with - the utmost would involve ? . Ile agreed most fully io th e stete. diligence and earnestness to acquire informnatio n e . : trine that the interests of all parties in ri l e therr 'rheir'Ltirdships :ttere.under no, pledg e what ever j were intimately connected : the' . House; .I ► re . to H. little any inquiry On file (itlesiiiin . There fQra_ought to 4e more careful how under ti . j er e oet was eninp l ete . i e e ereket i oe , e. h eee l y - b efore t h e , tence of assisting one interest it might be " _ o : House ou•the subject Of :he: immense importati on . Injuring all. 1 - 1 - a believed - in -his cvntsefenc o b i . of corn from abroad. The 'Report o f time Eee r•o _ the. landed interest would feel-the most seriOu . i, it • tive Government of France, stated that they Would advantage from this measore. As to Irelai i • ice l continue-to.e x po rt till th e pri ce rose to•49s. Th e • had been the object anti the aim of his P ° S:1 farnier . miimil Corn grower imetilis comintry conid - riot ',! lifeto•confer all possible benefits ttpon th' r et rts i stamolitgaiu s t zneit a competition. He hoped that ' lion, yet when he was asked to shut tip all th•l wEs • the at tentnot of :hi:, and the other. Hous e w ou ld . of the world against Grearlithaiii, except the Lo r al he . direeted tiethe :o•size of brew'. ; and long suite . of . lrelaod, he felt he had then a dray' t° P er o ecf . he -hi+l,l-i..lfltaml proposed a Coonnittee to eittinire• : as mi British subject. He objected . to th e o rejilt° this stiltject. I t did not appear, that ie, e t e • imperfect and inaccurate statemeuts, 01 t h e al ma was ,trey defect in th-e Report which had, n o t b een : rages on which •it roust be utterly unsafe to '_ loo ,. soppliett o It was totally Mitt/minded that the m at e_ e a pertimanentoneasore o and imis,isted that Ilse ruts, ket price and.the imporldtioim price were emoinen- : het price bore no regular prOportiputo• .s , trate. • N o thhe z 55 ., 0 ,..-, in t o , : ~,os io. d th an tO s nit ., ' and price. Nor should it be forgotten thL: vbec .• pose that the eriee of the loaf tvio'llil - be 1641. if istote.of the_eurrency wmms so flitetiniting',.th!" - hea ce the import a tio n price was 80 shilliogs.. Comisi'. was 89s. now, iV4s, at the time of the ev ' 7 dering• that n'o (mew information was to be ac- . giv'en, equivalent to 965. and aright be built, tom. (piked. the Houseimad ooly to cNereise its best it the situation of things contempl;ited '' 14 ,..:.--, judgment a s •t o :h e mod e of affording this coati- Chancellor of the Exchequer should ever oee' .. es , try thc ine a ns of. deiiviii i t its` . subsistence froun . Ile thought that there should have been soluc it „a its (... ,(iii. Iti),i g l.t I ? .e true tii,t.. the Arislt . amination as to .the scats of the distilleries , for farmer might un.del•scil• the_ l'loglisim grower. on how they would-be effected by this oleas" -°l- e ' D of - . sortie oecesions ;. ,bot. .r,7ts it to he .enclutecr th a t they were an important and productive bl,'`.`, l : oo te t•trix oistnictioo should•oe drawn -bet.Neen the• 'rcventme. He Concluded a long anti et n o ac.l the - + , 14 ttvocorintrieS? The question - . waS.,...wikether_ Are , speech by observing, that nothing had 52..•: • , 0 of .should have our supply from our •own -kingdom,' ,speech to • type prosperity and repottit:,`;. t ee. •or - from those which might affmmrci it Or withhold : i this eouutry as the confidence of the Inas . ' e i rcti. it at their pleasure. %. The averages, etvlietifek'ini-, pcople.in the /minded interest, mid ime eo',l) 0: perfect or not, did trot affeet.the general questi on . their Lordships to pause before they ga` ore dil- On the whole, be did liot eon . 7.ei , ;-e any • finther • istence to a nleasure, which 'might 'have tl' • coil' infooonatioo nec es s ary. He resp,CGted the Pell!' - fillcal:a of shakiog that, hitherto unsh;kgli • boners, and appl6nded tile disposition -in both .1 hdenee — (Hear, bear !) 1 r i t t 1 , 4 Hl on "" to thrOw open their floOrs to all Petitions. : 'rime Earl of LtvErt - POOL begat; by . tti ti 4 41. 1 l exo.- , . •.... The people ought to thitik freely and speak freely; that he bad never, heard ,any question (I ,.`i o esli• and their voice. ought to . i)c listened to. tri oz . . with more candour, temperance, rind fa 1 e ;lt", nuniber of Petitioos last year wits 69 against the than this,itmul been, both by the Noble j '' i t ' i ' Lt, o4 , 13ill, awl 55 in favour of .it. Bert those of thin oracle time motion, and the . !,N;ioble: Baron ~ - :, ..1, 0 .11-, 'year were entirely of a di ff erent tendency. Th ey last spoken. The question; however, pull is' did riot ask. for inftirmation or enqtfiry, but prayed now before tire Houmie - %leis, whether theY % ,`. 44 .1 1 '1 that no alteratiolf whmitever, might be !mule in the possession of soffieleut evidence to e`J tt:ll .‘, l :'OS' i i 14. W. Therrionrit •it appeared that (he Home *discussion of the law that was this ila•Y P I e l i ' ;4l 51'0) 11(.1 110 . t fall, into . the views or -- wishes of the l'e• to them fie I : ,., as..tinxious, in - th is stz:s; wt.'s titioners, onless they stopped the Bili altogether. qucition„ not to be - supposed la Suppor! 1 ; c i0::-• Ile fully concur re d in the sentiments. nf the 1.., , ;,-,b4,.. ~tire m y titc srowa t i of O's affCtrtling rea c t ,-• Lail at the close of his speech. ?-;othing it ' class onty, and tha the agrieultu - ral • eh 355 : 1 ( tO so remote from his ideas - as to , sac.:rifice the was cottvince:l that. it was for the iiifete' c p r eaLit interests e ot aay_oate, deseriptisin of ih, rsons 10 • whole of the, comnotnity.; time consumers 0 J I,„(mr► those of another. But ,he was certaio th a t th e I and mote particulaily f o r the interest 0 f , li c i: l o.. lll , C ' ineasu t c would ten d stiol'o-tghreoub:l7inlevlihtt'i'ttiettv'call' fun . •ti-it.,• " g tl i t .( a ) t i . n t i l ( li s s o t r t i le l a v ie f t i t i t c •c‘ h s t l i t l t e m z l i d o l t ) ) e ie adopted. th ' te c,' ji rj could, therefore, Earl had rc s s I l o a t motion. : The Ho+msefli'4(l nothing' to do hut to motion, there were many of them gil"t i11 :: til 4 consider the princip)e 1 01- • time Bill, mfod. proceed deserved the 'idlest discussion-, both ••,, 11 . 1 1 ee ° ' Upon' 'the, inforinat ion befor - e• thCI 11 . ' ' House, andb3l person s conversant in poli''', .0' Loaf ~. . . . . . . , • l‘.l'N:G WaS, of lII m opinion eirectly the re-• nobly; but Inc did not think thmit they %" 1 . c o o" verse of the INToble liisCollllf .- It wa6 the,generid • Jeers which co u ld be 'esionined 'bef °re ;e 3 ie,' l , l oeinion, that the greatest mi ;chief would beikomr• ' inittce of.thet House. They were clo est-I ,,`"ie. , o(''''. by any legislatitie : interferenee. on time •imbi eet o f ,• which no evidence that conk! he e.NI )6ct ' L „ ;I S ''''i r Corn. The soboeet. was. Of the greatest ia:port- ' throw army lieht. W h en ance to the:community, and therefore demnan (led ‘ tP.,:::.iz.illitete.t(ilo:.;.:t.ol3:iezii,rii,_ ttilimuesyeetm:isliiroteNtvleit..::il,";%l,lel;.s''eiltitio.ell9l: the fullest consideration. . . Lord 1.1%lour:• - e.imei cootended, that any (1 . 0; 1 y i n , measure. the mensure would be +if 'tire eremitest 'injury to t ville) oppoS\e‘Cibt''llile matiillj'olNiri(l),boleenri3l.Htimilliitlll(elll)".).'"'s•eite4l'":"!\ Ire!a nd, where the farmer s tvould abstain fm.6, ! yeimr, he .stated, ;- - 0 • h is stroOg es , t io l•e r° sowing - wheat, till they littew what 'would be the' • mews, that it \ea:: 3 of rite t ottilost- imP" rt , 4 „,estil protection they were to expect. His Lordship j the interests of the comintml-vhe, tuulc:altddifit'' •tv • repeated tine arguments so often urged respectitor I should be soon decided. He also,agre' d ' 1.10 1. •' - : the advantage to he derived by this comm. •"fron -- : I time, that it,'was of ' the circulatftin of her manufacture s i n I re h t Y no, I should he soon decided, •bethe• could runt • sa c . ) The Emir! Of LAnnEnnAer, iie a sp eee to ( ,l - con _ /1 before the•month of am,any in this Y a e . 3 , r ' 5• , i 11 .: siderible length, contended, th a t the tpiesti on evils 1 au attendance of Mteimnmeibuetri.:noasit Nkilli:arit11::::::::Itil. Ida nature that ought t o be dealt within the most I cient weight to a decision upon suc h 11 1 l ' ''. , o 0 1", ~it" temperate manner. It deserved the utost c on . I intereots. As to. the clamour NVitholl` il 0 til- . plate ex•.ilitiit , i ition e Ile was convinced that •no . ' I considered that it should have no price could remunerate the farmer. that was under decision, either in I ' • rioarniw• - • • ; , i orsv• iastening 01• -s him • • it 80s. Foreign Corn•had too long been let in, to speedy decision., however, appetite( " - "' lf ' „ t •t 1 ~,‘. the injury of the farmers both o f England and! I important, in order that those connec t c ieg' Ireland.' It was not necessary to exannue farther 1 the agricultural interest should know tile rs , t .s 1116 ji evidence; tl.l e agriculture of tif e British dominions I grounds they now stand. .Thc land-otvu - . C oo . ; e ought to be protected to. the exclusio n O f f ore i gn _ who, as he believed, must lower their rests' r tbe.oe ers. 'rime 495. . of France was more than equal • to not jodge until thi§ question was do :idol , e .,. t i a o- e the 80s: of •Eoglmind. ' ile contended that the evi- were to lower them or in what prt.??:c ) . ;, , c iiil:.-- i •ctreet ° it. , deuce-,f tkir“- • year, with wht e i t th e 1-1 0 ,..c v i t , s Neither the value. orliormi or hilnittr, of ' ,til tit `s satisfied, teas folly sufficient, and therefore there ' connected with the c ould •be tiN i e d y t a n r ioon e e L r l i was no On the gAirlomoulleu,lll"e'l-inaetveevreig. ta.ovretahveoltieelili4ydttilif i t i i i l t e mre?s il mi l - : if vie .3 i . t k o ne ie w i i s v i l a ie te th o e n r i l t h s t s: t a n s s l t t ' i l b t j c .e i ( i : i t te o tt i i l o o l .t r. 7: .ry ca tv iii tisfuctioivtivy) he should give it that niolit for not (trots b to delay for' the purpose of e e.1 , 1 - (l l, lll. o . d rai tij ,e . ~, going into the inquiry. • • • 1 those poisits mentioned by• the Ny u . ic i ,, - to ' °l l ) L ir. The Earl of I).,..tatxerr denied that the measure - j euquiry . might Im . tst for ten yearsLlteis•allY.,C°oar would'raise the loaf to - 16d. „it was essential that this point should be set arrest. As fill then' contradictory evidence, that teas "` ) f. ell e of.. dairy would _not' in - his opinion -• I ' ' n 11 ,_ expected „from tine great difference :) f r oin t ee; nape( e the pro- stances tinder wbich the witnesses, cowl 7, 0 ,, c 0m . '., gross of the measure, he should vote for the niO- ' tevent counties, had to speak o f In ri . aisie, act' . • the nial . , r 0 00tlf. lion. m •ea. o ow ot their farms. lie thought that the k . `va t, L ti oC Lord GRENVILLE' began by ad • 'to the danger of le •i f oo d . If the House, howe ',! ( : ) , C . l : ::e P rit 'i l e n l l! o s f t i r f o il l ra lg ia ly ti - a 'n s l i a li t t s e } :e s s te ti :l g e t o o r were determined for one year oidy, but for a reasonapie•., v ie . ;l o tto-, pee r tu to enter this (lark and •.Sli )eI•V path Inc wOuld • years. P3:s to importations from the xOe - • r i'6l. coasideration: call upon them first to natisc P - I i 1 : ' e. , c a o• , s P. front leirislatin g oil t . way was to 'lb+ ' (ret • a I• - ' from co I jell '-' , I t i li c e o t t l l - i li d o l le e caoiitonitlnicu:.ii ic.ti,yo7,aapvecsi.to,:g3,,. 1111 sam 0 , to its to importations . en ,ei ~c f , 5... not yet broke in upon AliikiSte:::i.Sns,:ohtilslitt:ylic:hhicand I p exceedingly for the s d m i lk fi e ns o c( f l. gi,ol' , it)i:led lights i i i n t s o(. ` i ‘ e 'l , l .l i i e h t i t n i t l e . e t s l S 3 One ce.ierS...till?')tj...,CC(C)Lttf lal : ' o °g l h i ir ti e c .t.i a li l leinl e : e : ( l ) ea n l : ti t i ll ii y ee , 1 - e ial s ol :i n t en l ia e e n Y e C I. ':hl s c e o ri; mi l l; cl l .l: l s .) c e :lio t ( II evidence as experience couldli c:llll:tijerrir:clie",;;;;. , t i l: li e e f i a .e e p t, o r t t h : of t ' t g ii r e ea r t r i e m i l l i c p , ;:r c t a o t t i l t i m i m i l i s i 1 I t i c ": , a- besto. .1,1,,,J.0.(1:,1,i,..,.,: •1111•14 , he regretted it - j :this year from France, Flanders , ' ft. time c.e, was' placed under their ininootement. Bat if pre- which they'passed upon it; was the ' a ()i e .: bp" . gasiative interference, sen t di ffi culties were strop( - o . the flu. , e - -1.0, . , . . hie si)ls(t;.1(.111(tIoatclaelal s f t o i r: e s a o l i i l x itt io i t e l - that .F . we could !rave l resr . cet t l i t: ,en wiii_cut , „ : 7o ,.. l & t i e :, existing CirctinistZitlC'eS)' Of t h e ceont(ll;tl;ll.'sy.',.'fill'oh'ealgiutelsie: iLl:aiugretsii at111:13:1(te:111lloajil-ile ' s ll' z tl- , that "it be preceded ji.. an te ' (' ' ' ' t it 041,-- ti oll teas not, whether with sufficient ' . e ‘ t V:i i t s t it: s e r , e ° s: jec application years, he, for his part, p t i .lit ic m t m l ig iato .l s' i te ' snt. :l ( !r 'f i . i )v i la.' o :l-nn • li.jelei pf eflpital itiot:c corn mielit- 1 lint ~ _ , . f ~i dri J ae r ~cc~ P4 k , ' 4 5 1 4