The Sun. — London, England, 1820-06-07 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS. (Continued from our Second Page.) PARLIAMENTARY REFORM. Mr. LAwaTori said, that when he last nigbt stated his determination to oppose the motion for adjonrument. unless some public ground were laid before the House, he had no conception that a meAsure of such greatimvrtauce was about to be submitted by his Majesty's Ministers to the con 'Alienation of thelloube of Commons. After what had passed this night, he thought he should be sluing the greatest injustice to the question which bad been committed to his hands, if he attempted 'to bring it forward at a time when men's minds were agitated to such a degree as to render it im possible that the subject of Parlianientaty Reform alloold receive that patient nod attentive conside• ration which it required. He begged leave, therefore, to postpone his motion to Tuesday the 27th June. COUNTY OF SUSSEX. Upon the motion of Mr. Cotvrets, leave was given In -Ening in a Bill to fix at Lrwes the Nee ti,,n of Members for the Comity of §tis)eiz. MINES Nlr. D. GILBFRT obtained le,tve to bring in a Bill for tnakin: general ;be r , oviaions the Act 41 Geo. 111. for the protection of property in mines• FINANCE. Mr. MAgertLer postponed bis notice relative to Finance Resolutions, SAVING BANKS. The CHANcitc.LoR the ExCli UCLUVR obtained leave to bring in a Bill to stnenti the Acts for the regulation of Saving tiktuks. SUPPLY. Colonel DAVIRi hoped Out the state of agita• Linn into which the house had bten thrown by the communication made in the course or ihe evening, would induce the Right lion. Gentle man (Mr. Vansittart) to postpone the bringing tip of the Report of the Committee of Supply, Which stood for that evening. IHANCELLI►H or the EXCHEQUER declined, on the gre►unrl, 145 WAS understood, that the ques tion was one of course. Mr. HUME said, that when it was considered ;I:at the Report contained a proposition for keep -1:p a (wee of not tree than 92,000 met' in time of peace, the question could not be looked upon in the light in which the Right lion. Gen tleman viewed it. Lord MILTON put it to the Right Honourable Gentleman, whether it would not be proper to postpone the bringing up of the Resolutions on the Army Estimates lie did not know in what state other men's minds were, but he was sure that his was not its a condition to go into the consideration of them. After some further conversation on the same topic between Colonel Davies, the Chat►cellor of the Exchequer, Lord Milton, and Lora Castle reagh— • . Lord NUGENT said, be should not object to the Rer!olutions passing now, on the understanding that it would be competent to him to move a re duction of the numbers in one of the stages of the Mutiny Bill, and to have the decision recorded. Mr. IV. :SMITH believed that such large num bers n► ere no at all necessary, anti he thought that if the House set out wits► avowing that they op posed the maintenance of them, merely in order that the vote might be put on the Journals, they would not be doing so much as was their duty. The SPEAKER explained, that tl►e proper occa sion for having an entry made on the Journals would he it► any stage after the first and second reading of the After a few further remarks from Lord Mmirot; and 51 , . W. SMITH, the Order of the Day was read for bringing up the Report. hen the first and second Resolutions had been read— CALCUAVT said, that it had been hi: in ten film, Whet) the Report of the Rziolutions on the Army Estimates should be brought up, to oppose florin, and to shoo that the mode of goverunient pursued in this country Was the real cause that such an immense army was proposed to be kept up iu time of peace. Obvious circumstances in duced him to defer what he bad to say; and as probably no other opportunity would arise, be be lieved that be should be driven to submit some substantive proposition on the subk:et. ORDNANCE ESTIMATES. Mr. I-lUME ruse, and said, that the intention of the Act 5 George 111. C. 113, had, he thought, been completely violated by the pensions granted in the Slot ekeeper's department of the Ordnance, end he must expressly and distinctly object to the practice of granting pensions after such short pe riods as one, two, or three years service. He wished also ro he informed if these pensions had been granted on the order of the Nlaster-General, or under the signaiure of three Lords of the Trea sury, 9, WaS the usual practice ?, Mr. It. WARD Said, the pensions of which the }lmmutable Gentltm4n complained, were those granted to Officers who had lost their offices by a reduction in the department, and certainly ware not within the intent nod meaning of the Act to which the Honourable Gentleman bad t.ll - In reply to ids question, be begged to in form him that no pensions isbateer were grant ed, es.eept under a warrant of Treasury, signed by Lands. Cad. DalitEs said 8 few words. Mr. R. WARD ex pia hied. Mr. CALCR.iFT said, he bad for some years left 011 troubling the H on. Gentleinen opposite with any observa:ions on the Oldnattre expenditure. — The lust time be had so addressed theta, was (hir ing the administration of Lord Mulgrave, and he had then said that the estimate produr.:ed was a plitterg, to all the other services of the country; but lie regretted that in the tit st year of the adminis notion of that illustrious Captain (the Duke of Ni eiltugton), he could not compliment bins, be cm.,e he had added 127,0001. yearly to that re duced estimate. of the hill of-Mulgrave„ The nun. Geutleman had spoken' of a saving of '.0,000/. and tie reduction of nineteen Officers ; to. to tooth, unfortunately it „would be ! mol d 11,3, the result of till MIS, as he stated, f: onsiticiable am:feast., It might be said that this increased expenditure was •necessary, but In his opinion, no case bad been made our, and snider the existing circumstances of the country, if such necessity really existed, it was the duty of those at the head of the Departments to see if 'no coun terbalancing deductions could be made in other branches. _ nr.IVARD said, that of this increase or i33:0001. there was 55.0001. flowing from Mr. Windh►ans's Act, and other Acts of 'Parliament, with which tt►e Noble Duke at the head of the dep►erttuent had nothing whatever ro do. Ten thousand pounds also wa' expended tar arming the yeo manry corps., and it surely would not be said that those catps should not have arms. Mr. Hume said, across the table, the reduced tavalry arms might have been supplied. Mr. R. WARD sail, the No b le Duke's attention to economy was exemplified in 11114 instance, for he had supplied such part of the reduced cavalry arms as were tit for service, and by attaching new stocks to such carbine' as required it, and mak ing other repairs, he was enabled to limit the expense to 10,0001. which, had new arms beets surplicd, would have amounted to 30,0001.—He regretted the disposition which appeared, to cavil at the acts of the Noble Duke at the head of the Ordnance, whose great services all allowed. Sir Jouu Newroar said, that in looking at these Estimates lie must consider the Duke of Wellington —not as Duke of Wellinvou, but as Master General of the Ordnance. The Honour. able Member might sneer as much as he thought proper, and impute motives of spleen to indivi• duals, but if the Noble Duke thoftht proper to accept a responsible office, it was to that House lie must be accountable, and it was the duty o f th e Members of that House to ex -.mine his conduct in it with the same minuteness as that of any o tier public officer. Mr. R. WARD disclaimed any intention of ins. poling any improper motives to any Honourable Member. ARMY ESTIMATES. On the clause being read for the number of soldiers to be maintained, Colonel DAMES wished to know if this number was to be coniidered as the regular Peace Esta blishment ? The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER 551(1 (51 was understood) that some part of the additional force area to be considered as only temporary. Lord NUQENT rated, that he objected in toto to the number of men proposed, and should move that it be reduced when the report of the Mutiny Bill should he brought up. Mr. Hums recommended that the practice of the 'American Congress, of appointing separate Committees at the opening of every Session' to inquire into the expenditure requisite for the ex penditure of the Naval, Military, and OrdtHnce Departments, should be adopted in future by bis Majesty's Ministers. Sir J. NEWPORT deprecated such a plan. The House should not devolve is own duties upon Committees, and thus relieve Minister, from the responsibility of the measures proposed. The Resolution was theft agreed to, and the Bills ordered accordingly. MUTINY BILL. Lord PALMERSTON obtained leave to bring in the Mutiny Bill —The Bill wis then brought read a 6t et time,, and ordered for a stcond reading to-morrow. Mr. Compote moved for an account of the total expenditure incurred for the erection of lidrracks since 1793, distinguishing each year.—Ordered. MALICIOUS TItESPASSES. Mr. N. CALVRIIT obtained leave to bring in a Bill for providing mo4•e summary remedies to cer. lain wilful and malicious injuries and re el p d s ges ...... Head a first time, and ordered for a second reading on Monday next. IRISH PAUPERS. Mr. Wm. PARNELL, after stating that the oper ction of the Bill tor passing Irish Paupers from England to Ireland had been attended with nanch suffering on their part, moved for a copy ot the correspondence tshich had taken plzee between the Chief Secretaty for !rebind and the Seneschal of Belfast and other placed. respecting the Pau pers sent from England to Ireland. Mr. S. Boustoatt contended, that if the Hon. Gentleman had been aware of the ()unbent which fell on some English parishes, he would not have bi en surprised that sonic means should have been taken for their relief. One parish alone had paid 10,0001. for Irish Paupers. When Englishmen became subject to the Vagrant Laws, they were passed in the sante manner as the Irish. He did not mean to say, that some additional measure might not be wanted, especially on the other side of the water, and if the Bon. Gentleman intended to propose some amendment to the law, he should hare no objection to give hint his assistance. Sir J. NEWPORT conceived that the only prac ticable remedy would be worse then the evil, for it would consist of the introduction of the Poor Laws into a country where they did not now exist, and where 'they would operate in a most prejudicial manner. Mr. WILLIAM. Was Of opinion, that on the whole the law, as established, had proved con siderably beneficial. The motion was then agreed to. L-rd PAestertsTort obtained leave to bring in the Publicans' Quarteting Allowance Bill. The Flax and Cotton Exportation Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed to morrow. The Exchequer Bills Funding Bill was read a second time. Committer to-morrow.--Adjourned. A die is sinking for a new silver coinage of the present reign, which, it is said, will be issued on the day of his MarisTv's coronation. Yesterday, about one o'clock, part of the new flooring of Westminster Hall, at the north end, took fire, and burned for some minutes, and was only extinguished by taking up several planks.— It originated in one of the workmen allowing some lead to boil over on some shavings. 'f he alarm was consi,lerable for some minutes, and a scent of great confusion took 10 ce , as the Courts of Law were sitting, and several Election Corr►- mittees in the looms belonging to the House of Common!. THE QUEEN. After The interview between the Quarts, Lf , rd HuTcHrNsciat, and Mr. BROUGgAH, on Saturday night, at St. Omer's, during which nothing passed except conversation on indifferent topics, Mr. Brougham sent the following letter to Lord Hutchinson. tit may be proper here to mention, that Mr. Brougham end Lard Hutchinson were ,at different hotels, and did not see each other dur ing the negotiation, except in the presence of the Queen.) Mr. Brougham having humbly submitted to the Queen, that he had reason to believe that Lord Hutchinson had brought over a propoitioo 61? tire King to her Majesty, the Queen has bet pleased to command Mr. Brougham to re quest Load Hutchinson to communicate any such proposition as soon as possible, in writing. The hearer of this (Count Vassali) will wait to re ceive it from your Lordship.—June 4, 1820." To this letter Lord Hutchinson sent a written answer, which it is not matelial to publish, as merely statrd that his Lordship had no written proposals, but merely some scattered memoranda on scraps of paper. Mr. Brougham instantly sent the following reply to Lord Hutchinson's letter " Mr. Brougham is commanded by the Queen to express to Lord Hutchinson tier Majesty', st►r prise at his Loidship not being ready to state the terms of the - proposition of*which he• is •the bearer ; hut as Lord Hutchinson is,desirous of a few hours' delay, her Majesty will wait until five o'clock, in the expectation of receiving a cort►tnu nication front his Lordship at that hour.-2 o'clock, June 4, 1520." This letter is dated two o'cluck on Saturday, and it was not till within a few minutes of the sti pulated time (eve o'clock) that Lord Hutchinson communicated his proposals in the letter which we published in yesterday's paper, and which is is literal transcript of the original document. As soon as this epistle was read by the Queen, Mr. Brougham, at her Majesty's request, made the following answer in wrioing : " Mr. Brougham is commanded by the Queen to'acknowledge the receipt of Lord Hutchinson's letter, and to inform his Lordship, that it i 3 quite impossible for her Majesty to listen to such a Preposition.-Five o'clock, June 4, 1820." Within a very few aminutes after this last communication her Majesty soddenly lett Mr. Brougham, and went into her carriage, which: was ordered to drive away with the greatest pos sible speed. The suddenness of her departure was such, that Mr. Moughato had no time io fol low her Majesty to her coach, and indeed acatcely knew she was gone till he saw•from a tvindow the carriage hastening away. The reason of this pre cipitate departure, which prevented Mr. Brougham from paving rte respect which he would other wise have most anxiously paid;;; has been since very satisfactorily and naturally explained. Lord Hutchinson, a very Shot t time hetore her Majes ty's leaving St. Omer's, happened to say that he expected almost immediately a courier ft ow Paris. Her Majesty, conceiving that the only object of a courier from the capital of a country which had treated her with such marked neglect must be a hostile one, and probably might cud in intercept ing her . journey, took the prompt resolution at setting off that very instals:, lest the delay of a iniasttes mlitt allow taste for the arrival of a messenger with 'towel's to refuse her the means of travelling. Her M jesty was even afraid that some difficulties might be thrown in her way at Calais, awl therefore, to make all sure, deter mined to go at once on board the English packet boat. Such an apprehensitin fully justified her Majesty's abrupt departure (tom the hotel at St. Omer's, and as fully explains the non•atteudanee of Mr. Brougham at her carriage. door ; for her Majesty, in her anxiety, did not mention to any one the reason of her haste till she hid arrived almost at Calais. It turns out, however, that her Majesty had misunderstood Lord Hutchin son's meaning : the courier expected from Paris was merely to bring an answer from Lord Hut chinson's nephew, who resides in that metropolis, and to whom his Lordship had written, requiring him to come and assist him as his confidential amanuensis, in the same manner as Mr. Brougham's brother assisted Mr. Brougham. Lord Hutchinson so little expected her Majes ty's departure, that he was in the act of writing the following letter to Mr. Brougham when the Q ueen went assay. This letter was sent atter her Majesty to Calais, in an enclosure from Mr. BrouWvon. The Queen was asleep on boatel the packet-boat when the parcel arrived, about one o'clock, and it was therefore received by Alder man Wood, who was on deck. The worthy Al derman did not think it tight to wake.her Ma jesty ; but, about two hours afterward:, bearing her speak to a female attendant, he Beni, the letter to her ; her Majesty read it, and desired' I]r. Al derman Wood to acknowledge it, but to add, that the Queen ►aw no reason to alter her course : " St. Oilier's, 5 o'Clock, June 4, 1820. "My dear Sir—l should wish that you would enter into a more detailed explanation ; but, to show you my anxious and sincere wish for an accommodation, I am willing to send a Lousier to England to ask for further instruction, pro vided her Majesty will communicate to you whe ther any part of the proposition which I have made would be acceptable to her; and if there is any thing which shit may wish to olfer to the English Government, on her pert, 1 ncia to make myself the nsvcliom through which it may pass. " I have the honout to he. So- HUTCHINSON " The report that. the 119113! of 13AFUNG and Co. will make proposals for the Loan, which we stated in our Paper of Monday to be curt rut, duc not appear to be strictly true ; but we understand hst is tortning by 'Messrs. A. F. lialtlitnand and Jon', And Mosrs. J. '1 bout sou, T. 'lunar, and Co. One of the parties is parlieulariy conneLted with Mr. Angersteiti, anti both have been largely eugageu in Mows. Liarivy, and An6ersteila'a loan.--(I lines.) LAW INTELLIGENCE. COURT OF KING'S i3F.NCH, Jusz G. LANCY V. LANCY. MT. EVANS moved for a new trial in•this c — f lo It was an action for an assault and false ifil oo sonment, the Plaintiff, a L a dy, heed cf) t , tined six months its a utad-house by the Ddende l her brol her. tit A justification was pleaded, inasmuch a s ~p Plaintiff was alleged to have been in a sito ll( . 4 , which made it necessary to confine h er a s a The Jury tound a Verdict for the D e g d The Plaintiff at the trial called a number, witnesses who proved she was of sane 01 ` 11 0 One however of the name of tiolderness, a feu it ' d who had long known her, depos e d, that Ott (3 .'o occasion she told the witness she heard a v i / i t i whisper in her ear, and she was obliged to anO f f front her mouth.--. The Chief Justice left the to say whether that observation did not imply disordered mind. Mr. EVANS made his motion for a new trial °II " ' three grounds ! —First. on a misdirection to Jury; secondly, that the verdict was against e f o , deuce; and, thirdly, that the plaintiff was 141‘ecl by surprise. Had she been prepared to exli t l j the evidence given by Mrs. Holderness she c uti o have contradicted her. The Learned Counsel, support of his 'motion, contended that the esPr e r sion with respect to hearing a voi c e in her e4 e f was no more a proof of maduess than the exp re , i , sion of a certain class of Dissentets, who stantly asserted that they heard voic e s of natural character. Many ugly women, he o yl , I d were constantly in the habit of saying men wao to run away with them. The abaurlity of 91° ,,f expressions was ObkiOuS, yet the parties we re i s considered mad., absurd expressions were o i constitute insanity, tialf the people o f ENO ° might be considered mad. The Court, under all the circumstances of case, decided that' the verdict ought nut to be ' IP' turbecl..—Application retused. A At two o'clock the u ages rose' to atteuu ll House of Lords. 'Front . Me LONDON GAZETTE of June O• Cruuv , tyfiee, June 6, 1820. Member returned to serve in Parliament. Borough of Scartoirough.—The Hon. Edininid Geocral in his Majesty's :Iriuy, iu the room pit the Mon. l'iscuunt Nosatauby, who has accepted the 0. 1 " 1 Hundreds. BANKRUPTCY SUPERSEDED. F. Downing, Iluddrrsfidd, grocer. BANKRUPTS. ./ 0/4 .11. Hacket, Newport, Isle of Wight, spirit-snerclaant , N ." 15, 16, at one ;.and July 18, at elevcii, at the Wl . ;ldlgnip • port. Attorney, Mr. F. Worsley, Newport. te° l T. Morris,juit., Wins, Rutland, baker, jllfle 20, ?It a`d and July 18, at eleven, at the Falcon lnit, land. Attornies, Lunt; and Austin, Hulbutn court, inn ; and Mr. B. Warren, Uppinglittu. S. Bruno, Chating-cross, sword•eutler, June 10, 2 13 `,t 40-•• July 18, at ten, at Guilchali. Attorney, Mr. T.ylvr, 141-square. F. E. H haw, aerbv J 26, 27 .14`14 ,emshaw, Derby, currier. June an A la - at weive, at the King's Head inn, Derby. Ativ.,il ,4 : o 4l' Nutt:lll, Nottingham ; and Forster and 111 arner, Litli , ` IM..Ackroyd, Leeds, earthenware-manutaettn el, J" 1 ":„di and Jut). 3, 13, at ten, at the (;outt Iluuse, L ee d s . -- - 1 1 ";010 . 21r. Wilson, Greville-street, Hatton-ga uen ; and Mr. Leeds. tt° E. Green, Leeds, earthenware-manufacturer, June g 6 ' ; i,;it July 3, 18, at led, at. the Court ll..ouse, Leidy. Atla vt ;osi Mr. Wilson. Greville,treet, llettun-barden ; and Arloore, Leeds. s rrJ G. Alasuri, Chard, Somerset, clothier, June 17 '„itH Juiy 18, at. twO ve, at the George Chard. Attofr Mr. Tucker, Chard; and Mr. Sewer, Chaucer}'-lane. W. Allies, Oxford-street, linen draper, :June 10, Ot g yee July is, dt tell, Atturnies, Knight rend wan, Basing lull-st rect. ho le ; T. C. Betts, Nag's.llead-cotirt,Gracechitreh-streeto` . o ,li l sale peifunier, June 20, 24, and July tB, at twelve, at L ' hall. Attorney, Mr. denies, Bildsiersbury. V d B. linuwdau, Hat row-un the-Hill,- grocer, June 10, 1 .'1 ) 13 ,; 1 July 18, at eleven, at Guildhall. Atierney,Mr. 'Euclivr) Jett's-buildings, tiolborn. I'.H Little 'IT •-st -- -t, hall—June 1"toio . mpg, _ is itenses-btreet, iiisetbt baker, wu. and July IS, at ten, at Guildhall. Attorney, Mr. Poi." _ t , (1 1 ; P f RNANCE.—Sunday last, a Mrs. Rutter, for to laming the character of the tsife ut p neighbot" . ';‘ , calling Ler improper names, underwent the- I ;: ce t many of penance, by standing in a wh;le during Divine Service, in the parish church 01 Mary-le-bonne, New-road. COURSE OF EXCHANGE, Jura: 6. ..—....x5.a. 1' Amsteidam r " Ditto, at Sight Rotterdam l2 Li Antwerp tiainburgh a7 0 ' I ! 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