The Sun. — London, England, 1849-05-25 00:00:00

(Hear, hear.) Corruption implied two parties, and the corrupter was a greater criminal than the corrupted.— (Cheers.) They required such a Bill in order to enable the voter in that capacity to discharge his duty freely and fearlessly. They required it no less for the benefit of Members of that House. Was it right that a young man of family or station who possessed an honest desire to devote himself to the service of his country, who looked to a seat in that House, through that to the at tainment of office—and through that again to the achieve ment of lofty and generous aspirations—was it right or fit that such a young man must make his first step in the dirty path of corruption ?—(Cheers) Was it right or fit that if he did not contaminate his own hand with base bribes, he must corrupt the electors through the means of agents ?—(Hear.) Was it, he repeated, right or fit, in a country like this, such a step should be necessary —not, as the poet said, "to wade through slaughter to a throne," but through corruption to the Legislature?—(Cheers.) It was not necessary to adduce any details as to the existence and extent of that corruption; the Committees and the Blue Book., issued last session, showed that the pay meet for seats in that House was common. Some of those who thus at tained them might not be aware of the exact manner in Which the sums were paid, but they could not be un aware of the large amounts placed in the bankers for the purpose; and, if they were disposed, they could easily ascertain how they were applied. He wished that Ron. Members could realise to their own minds the Mischievous way in which this corrupt system acted. A Young man, with whom he was acquainted, possessing great talents, and of a station which justified him in looking to a seat in that House, was desirous of being returned. He was nominated for a borough, but the kitties of profligacy and corruption he had to witness had so disgusted him that he had declared his firm , determination never again to enter public life.— lA laugh.) That might seem a morbid feeling, but some such feeling must have been exhibited by every ingenuous mind at first entering upon public life and coming into contact with such scenes.—(Hear, hear.) Then when they came to trace the stream of corruption downwards among the people, they would find that its continuous operation from year to year undermined the Morals and the honesty of the nation. Many a man had broken down by first taking a bribe at an election. Many a man had cause to rue the day when the tempter first canto to his door.—(Loud cries of " Hear.") One of our poets—Crabbe—had powerfully described the effect of such temptation on a single family, and the hopeless ruin which followed, and such cases were to be found in tens, in hundreds, and in thousands, all over the coun try,—(Cheers.) If, then, they desired to strengthen the virtue of the working classes, and to give them anY confidence in the virtuous professions of that Rouse, they would take vigorous measures to arrest the flow of this stream of corruption. The Bill pro- Posed would be more successful in doing this than Many other of the popular measures of the day. Thoy Might establish ragged schools, national schools, and Church schools, but while Parliament itself taught the Public the great lesson, that corruption was the way to Power, all educative efforts would be neutralised. — (Cheers.) Let the blame be laid on the right shoulders; in future, let them not visit with condemnation the bribed alone, but the wealthy classes who bribed. He had seen the operation of this system of corruption, and he confidently said that if the rich would abstain from bribery, the constituency would be pure.—(Hear, hear.) Re had kno w n places in which the elections were in the first instance blameless in this respect, gradually cor ruPted, until the seats were notoriously bougnt and sold. --. (Hear, hear.) He had in his own experience an ex autple,—(A laugh.) The borough he represented was a hive of industry, with a large number of voters; its O nly aristocracy belonged to labour.—(Hear, hear.) In that borough his election had not cost him one shilling (Hear, hear)—and he was not known to one person in it before he went there—(A laugh)—personally, he ,_lneant.—(H ea r, hear.) That was the way in which Members ought to be returned. They ought to appeal to the higher faculties of the voters, to their minds, and not their sordid and selfish instinct.—(Hear, hear.) He asked if the gentlemen of England were satisfied that any class should regard them as tempters to crime, and Corrupters of virtue? Was that a noble or proud posi tion for the descendants of the Normans to occupy? He hoped not, and that they would determine to remove this s eu arge, by acting differently. America had been referr e d * 0 as an example of the uselessness of the ballot. It was said that secrecy was there not required. He believed that would be the case here also in twenty-five years from the establishment of the ballot. In that time the Wealthy classes would cease to entertain the desire to tamper with the political honesty of the poorer classes, and learn that they had no more right to interfere with their selection of a candidate than of a wife or servant or a religion; they would abandon it altogether as not with in their province.—(Hear, hear.) But with respect to America, the Americans must surely be allowed to be the best judges of what was best for their own interest, and, tested in this way, the system of open voting did not !teem to stand so high as was alleged. The ballot began in only a few states at first, and had now spread to others, which was irreconcileable with the theory ofthose who said secrecy was unpo p tiler in America.—(Hear, hear.) Under the present system in this country, he would say that whatever that House represented, it did not represent th e p eop l e. If they req n u f tr t e h d to be that, they must app ea l, not to the influence that of th e min d. I f, i nstead of going b o e n pu i f r n s e but 'their canvasses with individuals whose wealth and position it Watt expected would i n fl uence the voters,—(Hear) —they y ve e o re to appeal to th e m i n d s and consciences of the elections w o uld b ecome sc h oo l s o f moral isin struction.riei' These were among som e o f th e man y reasons "e bad for supporting the Bill, though. as he had stated, be should have . preterred the measure associated with Other organic reforms. He hoped, for the sake of the country, for the sake of the character of the House, which ought to act in consistency with the resolution it bad passed—(Cheers)—fer the sake of the thousands who could not exercise their franchise in freedom—for the sake of all classes=he cordially supported the mo tion.—(Cheers.) Sir H. VERNEY rose, amidst loud cries of " Divide." The right of voting he regarded as a public trust, for public purposes, and he considered that trust ought to be exercised in a public manner. Indeed he knew not On what principle it was attempted to be contended that Members of Parliament should vote publicly, while constituents gave their votes privately.—(Cries of " Di "ride, divide.") After the lapse of two or three minutes, during which there were calls for a division, and cries of " No opposi tion, no opposition," while all eyes were directed towards the Ministerial benches, in the expectation that Lord John Russell, or some other member of the Government Present, would address the House, Mr. H. BERKELEY said that no arguments had been adduced against the motion to which he thought it ne cessary to reply. He should leave it to the House to say Whether the course adopted by the Government, in de ° doing to offer any remarks on a question of great pub lic • importance, was a respectful mode of treating the ' l loiect.—(Cri es of " Divide," "No opposition.") s - s_ ....Strangers were then ordered to withdraw, and the Itouse divided, when there appeared— For the motion Against it Majority The motion was consequently negatived COLONIAL POSSESSIONS. f Mr. ROEBUCK moved for leave to bring in a Bill 411, r the better government of certain colonial possessions. Re subject he said was not one of an attractive nature. al l proposed t o d ea l with a serious question, and he h itv e i d the House to legislate with large interests, not Solelyalready anxious for the benefit of the people, He had t oe endeavoured in print to explain the opinions and 'le Principles which he wished to be embodied in an Act ° f parliament, and he entreated the indulgence of the ,to o use while h e b r i e fly reca pit u l a t e d th e vi ew s which he Zught deserving of adoption by the Legislature. ee the year 1806, England had acted as a colonizing coh Drente without rule or power; England was the Z o v a test colonial power by themselves and those who ac „ c o e - e ded them that the earth ever saw. They had ir ed that power, not by rule or principle, not by assi stance of the Government, but by the superior stren gth n of the people. It was the people w h o did it all, - net the Government.—(Hear, hear.) This argu ment might be said to tell against himself, but he had to g o into comparison with the conduct pursued by the A merican people. They now saw great danger of losing o ne part of their colonial possessions. If something Were not done quickly they should lose mastery over one Portion of their colonial dominions, and see the Amer-- o ; ll Republic extending its territories from the Isthmus ,„ Panama to the North Pole, and becoming superior in iuslYititue power. This was no idle fear. He put no 1 4, t _ 11 in the Government, for, with regard to colonial es te, it was evident they knew not what to do. He ac :.gpted the position that the colonies were a benefit to on land. Their colonial empire was not only a great t o ° t d , but it was one of their great sources of strength; 11 , d he :wanted to see the communities who were rider their dominion acting lovingly as their sub arid rendering them not an unwilling obedience, inhabi tants the homage of hearts. If they had to compel the viestt_hitants of those colonies to obey their laws and cur rs, then he said that colonial possessions were a th e , e ,, f er those over whom they exercised sway, and for doe s 'i ti `9Ple of England, who were at the expense of their good ° p• The colonies ought to be maintained by but w ileeficent dominion, without the aid of the army, nee tt ib,"" the assistance of the citizens themselves. Ge- With 4' e ,Peaking, England had governed the colonies dli t p ; e gLect, and at other times with mischievous med 044„,antd then, where they deemed it practicable to det ea - t " tacin, they went on until they were disgraced and dis gr ed, or they succeeded in a way that almost was as colooreful as defeat. Such was the history of their al dominion. From the commencement until the resentpresent day, 'that was the course they had adopted. r eso r t could onlyjudge of their colonial dominion by its 0 '44. England went on the principle of arming : non r ed companies with extraordinary powers,:and in this kingdom, were either displaced or destroyed before tiColonies could, by any possibility, succeed.—(Hear.) eve eno could gainsay that fact. Every attempt to re „E‘hagland by a system of colonization he contended that colonization or emigration was of itself a misery, for did they reflect that it was by such means they ought men relieve the distresses of their fellow-countrymen. Ir rere taken from their native land it should be re garded as a direful misfortune, and it certainly for me d out ofportion of the d ut y o f a overnment to drive m en the country t o ma k e th a t country peacef u l an d se cure,tird to l a y t h e f oun d at i on f or a colonial kingdom. nial goevrnersuppose that under the present system of colo to try t nment a band of gentlemen and others ch ose thither heither fortunes in a fbreign land, and to transfer themselves, their families, and their property. Ea r pat at tltihey did so un d er the gu id ance o f t h e N o b le Austrai _c head of the co l on i a l d epartment , an d went to p u li iin :s.tft- Now, on t h e Ist o f J une, 1824, an A ct o f vut Was passed confeuiug 0110 milliQu 0 85 136 acres on the Australiaa Agricultural Company. Well, he supposed that as many gentlemen as were then present in that House—although the number was not very large—with friends and some mountaineers chose to transfer themselves into some portion of the million of acres possessed by the Australian Agricultural Company. Suppose, after a favourable voyage, they landed in Australasia, and find ' ing themselves in an admirable climate, they asked them selves where they were. There was no provision, no legislative protection for those English emigrants in any portion of that dominion, and he begged his Hon. Friend the Under-Secretary for the Colonies, to remark that. There was no law, no Government, whereby they would be protected thereafter. He asked, was that assertion true; and if it were so, was it not a most extraordinary and lamentable fact, that in their vast colonial empire, there should be no rule or legislative principle on which a band of emigrants could know how to act. If they went to Canada, NUT 4 Scotia, or the colonial possessions of North America, they might find there both laws and government in existence; but within a few miles of Eng lish territories, on the waste lands of North America, in the wilds, and new part of the world, a different result would be found. He wanted the colony of North America to extend from the Atlantic to the Pacific. He wanted not only Nova Scotia to be inhabited, but the opposite shore of the Pacific as well. He wanted that Van couver's Island, which they had given away, should, by a proper system of government, be put in such a state as to be able to stand in comparison with what the neighbouring United States t eel tory of Oregon would speedily be. But, from the present system of go vernment, there was no hope of that being done. Lot the House consider how far they were behind the United States in their system of colonization. In 1783 the principle of American independence was conceded, arid by the treaty of Paris the boundaries of what was afterwards termed the United States were marked. Since then, however, the United States had increased in size to tour times the extent of the bounda ries recognised by that treaty, while its people, which at the passing of that treaty, in 1783, numbered three millions, had increased to twenty-five, millions. In Canada the population at that time was 200,000, but with a much larger and more fertile territory than the United States. The population had since increased only by two millions. Now, how was that? It was said the United States had increased by the combination of large tracts of territory into smaller departments, as if the population of the counties of England were located in one, and had increased in number in that respect ; but the fact was, the increase in the population was not composed of Americans, it was composed of English, Irish, and Scotch, who had emigrated to the United States. That increase of popula tion was still going •n. He had himself received the other day a letter from parties in Sheffield, who stated that they were a portion of his constituents, and that they were about leaving this country for Texas, and the purport of the letter was a request that he should com municate with Mr. Bancroft, the American Minister at this Court, and endeavour to get that gentleman to use his influence with the President of the United States to give them a grant of 4,000 acres of land. There was established in Sheffield, he believed, what was called the Sheffield Free Emigration Society, and these people were going out under its auspices. But he would ask why should they go to the United States, why not to their own colonies? The reason was, that should they do so, they would leave this country in a state of doubt and uncertainty. There was no rule or law laid down for their guidance, by which they could by any means shadow forth to themselves the means of future subsist ence, and they knew well that were they to lose their present position, and go to a country where they were unknown, where no means were taken to render their position such as they could subsist on, they would be running upon utter ruin to themselves and their fami lies. If there was a rule or law, which extended over all the colonies, to give people an idea of what position they would occupy, or what they might expect should they go to any of them, the case would be altered; but there was no such law.—(Hear, hear.) There was nothing but the mere will of the Colonial office, and that will never even put on paper; for if it once made a fixed rule, it would be so far beneficial, but it was not so. That, then, was a matter which ought first to be attended to. Now he was aware that to attempt by one Act to apply a general rule for all the colonies would be injudicious. Some of them he did not consider colonies in the sense he meant, such as Malta and the lonian Islands. These were not places where they sent the English people to make new homes and occupations for themselves. That was a colony, in his view of the case, which was planted by Englishmen, who had gone there with the intention of making that colony their home; and to such colonies it was the Bill he would propose to introduce would refer. It would not interfere with the West Indian colo nies, for there the difference of population was so great; the slave, though now free, was so different in habits and feelings, from the white man, that special legisla tion was required for so special a state of society. The colonies his measure would have reference to, therefore, would be the North American colonies, South Africa, Australasia, and New Zealand. One system of law he considered applicable to all these, and he would describe it. He had already said that England had reaped con siderable advantages from her colonies, but she could net expect to do so longer under the old system, for the old cry of ships, colonies, and commerce, was no longer the order of the day. The navigation-laws being repealed, or he hoped would be so, the species of trade carried on under them would no longer work, and that being the case, what species of trade ought they to have recourse to in order to render their colonies prosperous, and from which the country could derive any benefit? They could only hope to derive such benefit by making those colonies independent communities, dependent, of course, on the Crown, but having laws applicable to their state and position, such as would create an increase of their means ant; population, and by that means create a demand among their population for that which this country produced, thus giving rise to a system of reciprocal trading, free in the indirect sense of the term.—(Hear, hear.) Their desire ought, therefore, to be to make these c alonies as large and populous as possible, and to do that a regular law ought to be framed to aid and direct those who might wish to go to them and to in ducts people to do so. In the framing of that law he saw no reason why they might not follow the example of the United States. It might be said that the United States had a more fertile soil and better climate, and therefore no comparison could be made between the co• lonization of it and that of Canada. But both the climate and the soil of Upper Canada were superior to that of the United States, at least the corresponding parts of them. No place, in fact, appeared more advantageous to the establishment of an extended trade than did Upper Canada; and if they would only pass such measures as would give an opportunity to bring out its resources, it would soon assume a different aspect from what it now bore. He would therefore propose to pass an Act of Parliament something similar to that passed by the United States Con federation in 1787, for the pupose of effecting a similar end. The moment the people of the United States found themselves an independent nation the Confederation passed one comprehensive law, which regulated the whole colonization of their vast north-western territory, which now has divided into five sovereign states, and included in the union. That Act provided for the gra dual appropriation and improvement of waste land, until it should become such as to be laid out in separate settled communities, and by its operation five magnifi cent sovereign states had been carried out of that vast territory since the year 1787. Across the river St. Lawrence they saw all that doing; but though under a better climate, and living in a more fertile soil, they had failed to follow the example so nobly set them. He would, therefore, have free trade and seR-government, and these were the two principal propositions of the measure he sought to.introduce. He would wish in that measure to lay down that no land should be parted with by the Crown, unless it lay within the boundary of some distant settlement, meaning by settlement a portion of territory not included in any recognised state. In that respect he was adopting the United States system. The waste land he would have divided into settlements and let out accordingly; and when—say in the course of five years—the Surveyor should report that the population of such settlement had risen to 10,000, it should cease to be a settlement, and become a province. That was not the case now, for the colonies were left to fight their unhappy way against difficulties insurmountable in their present state, and no care or attention whatever paid them. Not long since a Bill passed in reference to New Zealand, but even when it did pass, he did not believe twenty Members in that House knew anything about it. —(Hear, hear.) It was sent out to New Zealand, and the Governor sent it back, stating it was of no use —it would not work. And the Colonial Secretary, finding out his error, came to that House, and asked it to can cel the measure. That showed the base system of legis lation pursued towards tho s e colonies. It was said no objection was entertained on the part of the Govern ment as to giving,those colonies a system of self-govern ment, but that the colonists themselves did not wish it. Canada, however, had got it. It was talked of in Australasia, and New Zealand. And what they became of the objections to granting the system? He would call the attention of the House first to the opinions of the Colonial Secretary of New Zealand, which was well known to be a fertile country and a good climate, at a time that 10,000 Englishmen made application to that functionary to enable them to take land there. What did they think was the answer of the Colonial officer? The Secretary for the Colonies said that New Zealand was a very troublesome sore; that he did not want to have anything to do with it. What was the result? Those adventurous Englishmen, with stubborn good sense, quarrelled with the secretary, and put him down. That should serve as au example to every Government that colonists were worthy of the parental interest of their own Government. Again, let them look to those pilgrim fathers when they drew u p their agreements on the Thames, how they had cast off their allegiance to the English Crown through the apat h y of the Colonial Secretary. Lord J. RUSSELL—No, no. Mr. ROEBUCK—The Noble Lord (Lord J. Russell) said " No," but he knew that New Z:eeland was not then supposed to belong to this country. Long after that time this country sent out a Consul and treated with the aborigines as an independent state, and then entered into the Treaty of Yeitanssul. Then, after this treaty, those Englishmen were subjected to the greatest husailiation and disaress, the savage natives denying that they had made any co- Tenant fur the land that the emigrants possessed all this was owing to the want of any rule or any law on the part of the Government of this country i n that treaty to protect their fellow subjects. However, a Governor was sent out, but where wos he sent to? Not to that part where those 10,000 settlers located them selves, but to where a few missionaries had settled, in the north, three hundred miles distant from them. Government then objected to their title, though they tamed that they had purchased it from the aborigines, and the result was that they and the Government of that time quarrelled about the land. In a word, the want of SQUIQ sylitowitic checks any iwpruement THE SUN, in that colony, and such a rule in law he considered it was the duty of the present Government to introduce rather than leave it to any private Member. Next he would call the attention of the House to Canada a few years past, and see what the feelings of the people there are. The French Canadians cvinced a desire to be united to the United States, and if they had persevered, with the assistance of those States, the Bri tish Government would be overpowered, and their mo tive for this wish was a determination to have a legisla• five assembly for themselves. The measure was at first opposed, but when driven to necessity, as in all cases, they then passed a measure for that purpose, for the United States boasted that they would extend their ter ritories in that direction, and that the French Canadians would be under their own laws; the Upper Canadians as they were then, and the Lower Canadians, would be similarly legislated for as Lousiana. He, therefore, strongly recommended the Government to adopt some certain rule, for that colony was by no means like New Zealand, which was far remote, and he apprehended that if such a measure were not immediately adopted that the Canadians would, before long, throw themselves on the United States. If resistance be offered by the British Government, it would be only by ear—war if you please—but it would be a most - disastrous war—Canada must be independent, and when she does rebel it will be only to become one of the United States. For that reason he wished to prevent such dangerous consequences, and therefore hoped that by some pre determined rule they would make that colony think it self proud in being the offspring and friends of England, for if such were not done, America would possess the St. Lawrence, and would extend its dominions to the Pole. It was not by half measures, or petty measures. or by Colonial Office red tape proceedings, but by far sighted and statesmanlike policy. He considered that much good, and no mischief whatever would emanate from his plan, for it would confederate those States north of the Oregon, which the United States would, ere long, take possession of, and thus it would endear those people to the interests and glory of England. He had been told that his plan was preparing a way for the independence of Canada; but to that he should say that it was better to anticipate such an event, for he knew that the time was not far distant when such an occurrence was likely to take place. His plan was not that she should be separated by war, but be united by ties of amity and affection, which he considered to be the strongest bonds between the mother country and her colonies. He would also have the boundaries defined between the United States and British America, and have a Gover nor• General appointed by the British Government, but no one else. He would next have the Canadas divided into separate states, and empower each state to send its representative member to their Legislative Assembly, in the same manner as the United States. Thus when the people of that country find that though colonies, they have been invested with the authority of a nation, though without their own army or navy, they would feel all the dignity and honour of a confederated body, and by this means be able to compete in every way with the United States. Thus will they and their children feel indepen dent, happy, and proud of England, and be always pre pared to lend her the arm of strength, if required, in. stead of being forced, as they at present were, and sub ject to humiliation, shame, and difficulties. It was on that account that he begged the House to allow him to lay before them that law which he felt fully assured would tend materially to the interest and advantage of this great country.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. WYLD seconded the motion. Mr. H A.WES said that his Hon. Friend (Mr. Roe buck) had, with his usual characteristic frankness and straightforwardness, already explained his views on that subject by a very powerful and comprehensive work, and had thus given the public and the House a fair opportu nity of carefully examining into all the details of his plan. He did not, therefore, approach that subject as on ordinary occasions, because, if he had proposed to in troduce a Bill without letting the House know what it was, he should not be prepared to admit it under any circumstances ; but, as he (Mr. Roebuck) had given them the opportunity of knowing it in all its details, he considered that he was not bound to chew his reasons for opposing its introduction. The House was aware that Government was determined that, in the event of a Bill being introduced, if not going to a second reading, it was better to deal with it as they would when read a second time, and for that reason he opposed the intro duction of the Bill, and wished to give his reasons for acting so. He concurred with the Honourable Gen tleman in considering that the highest function of a statesman was to consider for, and sup port, the colonial empire that we possess; but he did not at all think that this country had been in any way a source of humiliation or disgrace, or the cause of a status of inferiority of our colonies. He felt happy to agree with the Hon. Gentleman in reference to North America, South Africa, New Zealand, and Aus tralia, for he did not propose to alter the Government's administration of empire, but to limit their actions here. after by the introduction of a more perfect system, and to maintain the power and authority of the Crown over those colonies. He also proposes, in opposition to the opinions of some Hon. Members, to maintain, to protect, and to increase our colonial settlements; and to that he adds, that wherever large colonies exist they should be divided into provinces, and be governed by a confederate government of their own. He again proposes that a Governor should be appointed by the ImperiaiGovernm , :nt for those colonies, and in those opinions he is in perfect harmony with those that already exist among the members of her Majesty's Government. He also agrees with him, that it should ba the object of all Colonial Ministers to facilitate vs much as possible colonial legislation. But he proposes that his Bill shall enable any parties to make applications for settlements, and that the Colonial Secretary should be imperatively called to act on their application. Mr. ROEBUCK—It was only when it was determined that colonies should be formed, that settlements would be imperatively called for. Mr. HAWES—The same obstructions would exist then as now, and thus many colonies would be lost be fore that resolution could be attended to. He would ask, how were the expenses of the settlement to be met —the making of the survey, and the various expenses incidental to a settlement ? As regarded their North American colonies, he thought the plan proposed by his Honourable and Learned Friend involved insuperable difficulties. As regarded Canada, the land was under the control of the Legislature of Caeada, and yet his Hon. and Learned Friend wished this country to have the power to authorise settlements. Nothing he thought could be worse than to permit such imperial interference. His Honourable Friend had stated that population had increased much faster in the United States than it had done in Canada, and he had produced a snap, which he (Mr. Hawes) must say was of a delusive character. In that map he had run the boundary of Canada up to the North Pole; but surely he could not mean to propose that settlements would be made up to that point. But his Hon. and Learned Friend was in error when he said that the population in Canada was small. He admitted that his Hon. Friend had proposed a large and compre hensive scheme, but it was one which could be fairly opposed on its merits, and on that ground he would meet it. As to the statement about the increase of population in the United States, he would state that in the year 1776 the population of the United States was three millions, and at the same time the population of Canada was 200,000. The present population of the United States amounted to 23 millions, being an increase since 1776 of scarcely fourfold, while in Canada the population was about two millions, being an increase during the same period of tenfold.—(Hear.) By that test he had a right to say that the English sys tem was as good as that of the United States, and that there had been a more rapid increase of population in the Canadas than there had been in the United States. He was not going to justify the acts of past colonial ad ministrations. It misgovernment prevailed for a long time in Canada, it must of course have retarded its pro gress. But there was now an increase of wealth and of population, which ought rather to call forth praise than language of strong condemnation. His Hon. Friend seemed to think that the system of America would work well with this country; but he (Mr. Hawes) had no hesitation in saying that it would not, and that its application would involve, among other things, the repeal of the union with the Canadas. The Hud son's Bay Company, for instance, had a charter, and, as he stood up for the independence of the colonies, he would not consent to any interference on the part of the Crown, without the consent of the colonies. With refe rence to New Zealand, his Hon. and Learned Friend had expended some sarcasm regarding the new constitution, which had, he said, been proposed one day, and aban doned another. Now, the Governor of that colony ob jected to that constitution, because it gave exclusive power to a small body of Europeans over a large body of natives. Native rights had been recognised, and he hoped that the difficulties arising out of the land ques tion in that country, had_ been brought to a close. — (Hear, hear.) But they could not have settlements in that country; and it would be in the highest degree, improper, as regarded Canada, to give assent to a Bill which would interfere with the powers of the co lonial legislature. He would now come to the Cape of Good Hope. They had there a large and power ful race of men. He would take Natal,. and if they attempted a settlement there they would at once be brought into hostile collision. In New South Wales they had a Legislative Council that was elected, and the colony was governed according to the views of the ma jority of that Council. It was evident, then, that their power to form the proposed settlements could not, to any great extent, be carried into effect. His Hon. and Learned Friend admitted that the power of the people was strong in Canada, but he said give them more settle ments, and then group them all together and give them self-government. Why, the answer was, that they had self-government already.—(Hear.) He (Mr. Hawes) would maintain that, in Canada, so long as the Crown exercised the power it now exercised, and while it had a legislative body, and the people elected it, that it possessed as complete a system of self-government as any colony could have.—(Hear, hear.) He would now state that it was his intention before the holidays to an nounce a measure which Government meant to bring forward to give local government to Australia. It was intended to submit a plan to unite all those distant colo nies, leaving them at the same time separate local govern ments, but giving them a General Assembly for general government. His objections to the measure proposed by his Hon. and Learned Friend were of a practical cha racter, and of great importance, and w ere not to be got over by any alteration in the details. He thought it was more important to populate and centre capital in the colonies they possessed than unnecessarily to increase them. He had, in the outset, alluded to the difficulties of pro viding the money, and he would ask how were they to provide for a settlement if it did not succeed ? They could not leave people to starve ; and he believed there was not one colony which had been successful without direct assistance. England had to send Australia half a million, and since then South Australia had increased in wealth and prosperity, and was one of their most valuable colonies. It was a great ' mistake to suppose that their colonies had not made great ProSeA ale wealth, is freedom, tu security, sad tsll LONDON, FRIDAY EVENING, MAY 25 1849. (the concomitants of material wealth; and, as instances, he might point to New Zealand, to South Australia, to Port Phillip, and New South Wales. As regarded the colonies generally, if they relied upon statistics, they would find that during the last ten years they had ad vanced greatly in everything that conduced to material prosperity. The Hon. Member then adverted to the great measures of public policy which the Legislature had recently sanctioned, and the effect which they had had upon the colonies, and said that the colonial policy of the empire was distinctly to acknowledge the gradual extension of self-government. He had endea voured, generally, to state his reasons for opposing, the measure proposed by his Honourable and Learned Friend, and he thought he had assigned reasons which the House would approve of, and that it would not give its assent to the Bill. He coincided in much that had been said by his lion. and Learned Friend, and nothing could confer greater honour on the country than to have the principle of self-government extended to the colonies so soon as it could be extended with safety, and in every• hing identifying them with that empire with which they had divided their strength.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. C. ANSTEY observed, that a more complete, and at the same time a more unintentional misrepresentation of the objects of the lion. and Learned Gentleman, the Member for Sheffield, he had never known, than that made by the Hon. Gentleman the Under-SE cretary for the Colonies. The lend question was at the bottom of the opposition at the CoLanai-office, and for his own part he felt that the objections made ought not to have been offered until the Bill went into Committee. He felt that he should be wanting in his duty if he did not give the measare every support in his power. Mr. MACGREGOR regretted he was compelled to differ nbct w . a)i i rtt t n h era dso h l Sheffield r eh t i ou as t u sha h r ein a ht b uec le jdamuns a erati n aidecs d Learned taue s:tewiest etehreho Fr y er fecperornenocpwetoi the nte n ehed d d Westtt ah h tse e h e mode y l o e cdoe .Member Indies, ol regardedd self-government possessed by the people of that colony. He could nut see how the riots, which took place in Montreal, could be charged against the Colonial-office, because they had a perfectly free Government of their own. It was brought about, not by the French Ca nadians, but occasioned by party feeling, for the ma jority for the Bill was formed of those elected by the British race. The only period since 1830 when any thing was done against the feelings of the Canadians, was when Lord Stanley was Colonial Secretary, who, with good intentions, no doubt, did very foolish things; but since that year, with the exception thus given, the Colonial offiee had discharged its duty y with kind ness and conciliation. He regretted to be obliged to oppose the Bill of his Honourable and Learned Friend, but he did so because he believed it to be im practicable.r. N E Mr. VDEGATE, in reference to what had been said of the conduct of Lord Stanley while in the Colo nial-office, would only say, that if his administration of the affairs of that office were compared with that of Lord Grey, he need not fear the comparison. With regard to the Bill itself, he should vote against its introduction, because he believed it would be productive of great mis chief., Mr. WYLD should give his vote for the proposal of the Hon. and Learned Member for Sheffield. He be lieved it would not in any way whatever interfere with colonial legislatures, but tend, in a great degree, to ex tend their colonial empire, and particularly that portion of it on the north-west coast of America. Mr. AGLIONBY said, that he had heard with much concern that her Majesty's Government intended to oppose the motion. The House should give leave to bring in the Bill on the general principle that good go vernment was necessary for the colonies. They would then ba able to make themselves masters of its provi sions. Whatever might be the result of the motion, the House and the country should feel deeply obliged to the Hon. and Learned Gentleman for bringing it forward. He urged upon the Government to give free institu tions as early as possible to New Zealand. Lord JOHN RUSSELL said he thought it necessary to state shortly whet he conceived to be conclusive ob jections against the motion of the Hon. Gentleman. His Bill, if sanctioned, would bind them to govern all the colonies, of different races, and creeds, and climates, upon one fixed rule. But they should remember that these nations and races had institutions of their own, which in many instances they had no right to interfere with. If the Colonial-office acted wrong, upon the dis covery of the error it might be immediately rectified. But only fancy the inconvenience of having an Act of Parliament for every power and authority that cir cumstances might render it desirable to exercise. The contingencies of Canada had occupied much of the attention of the late Lord Durham,' and he concurred with those best informed on the subject, in the Hon. and Learned Gentleman's scheme of a legis lative union between• Canada, New Brunswick, and Nova Scotia. And further, how could Parliament legislate on certain fixed principles for colonies, without consulting the colonists themselves? They must be guided in co lonial legislation greatly by thought th e w'ish p e r s op o e f r, th w e o c u o i l d oni n s o ts i, themselves, who, if they allow Parliament, in many cases, to put their rules, if any should be laid down , into execution. Thel-lon. Member for Cockermout h ( Mr. A g lionb y ) favourel the motion, but how (lid he deal with it in regard to the colony of New Zealand, with which he was more inti- mately connected? He was satisfied with the mode of proceeding there, and hoped that the principles now being acted upon might be carried out. The circum- stances of that colony required one mode of government, and the circumstances 01 other colonies required a dif ferent mode of treatment. To imagine that one mode of government could be applied to all colonies was quite illusory. Mr. GLADSTONE said that he should vote for the motion, although he had opposed a Committee of In quiry into colonial affairs at an early period of the ses sion. As to uniformity in dealing with the colonies, he concurred with the Noble Lord in what he had said. But as to interfering with privileges, it was not because a Bill should be laid upon the table that Parliament would forego its right of judging. Their colonial policy was susceptible of great improvement, and he thought that it would be a valuable aid to good government to see the Hon. and Learned Gentleman's notions embodied in a Bill. Much of it might be found impracticable, but he should like to see what his plans were. They would go forth to the colonies, and in the interval between this and the next session of Parliament, they might have an opportunity to consider them, and they would probably come back to them in the shape of very valuable prac tical sugeestions. Mr. VERNON SMITH said he by no means disap proved of the whole of the Bill which it was asked to lay upon the table, but as he concurred in opinion with the Noble Lord (Lord John Russell) that it would un settle the minds of the more distant colonists, and pro • duce a prejudicial effect, he should oppose the motion. There existed in the colonies the utmost jealousy of the Imperial Government, and to lay down rules for their guidance without consulting them, would call forth their most determined opposition. With respect to giving the colonies constitutions similar to our own, the theory was plausible, but unless they had the same elements in the colonies, such a constitution would be clearly inapplicable. He could not sit down without thanking the Hon. and Learned Member for Sheffield for bringing forward this Bill, because, though he might fail in the present instance, yet it would draw attention to the subject, and the more this was done the greater benefit would result to all parties, and the more certain would be the ultimate at tainment of the object in view. After a few words of explanation between Mr. HAwEs and Mr. GLADSTONE. Mr. ADDERLEY said that with respect to the plan of the Hon. and Learned Member, at least with its great centritl principle, he could not concur, nor did he think it would be successful if applied. It came from the United States, and he thought we were at present too apt to copy from the United States, without taking into consideration whether the examples were applicable or not. At the same time, he admired the eloquence and ability with which the question had been brought before the House, and hoped the Bill would be allowed to be laid on the table, in order that the Hon. and Learned Member himself might see where it could be amended, and in another year produce a more effective measure. The Hon. and Learned Member had the sub ject at heart, and ought not to be discouraged. Mr. E l B TinCg would rights,replied—The interfere bu twtiothp existing ts Noble htienmg L r : i o ng rhd lucid s assumed t xis order where as what he proposed to do was as much as possible to m sintain and confirm them by an Act of Parliament. Th e colo nies witn which he proposed to deal were all in th e same position; and all he asked was, that they s h ou ld d ea l with them upon some fixed principle , in order that when persons left to settle in them , the y might know under what kind of institutions they were going to live.-- (Hear, hear.) Before be sat down he must enter his solemn protest against one statement which had been made by an Honourable Member, that England had too many colonies, and ought not to seek their extension. On the contrary, he thought that on the broad surface of the globe there was ample room for extension, and that England could not create too many happy com munities.—(Cheers.) The man who contributed to the spread of our liberal race, of our liberal institutions, of our language, our literature, and our civilization, would be conferring a blessi n g upon the world. With some thing like that object in his mind, he bad brought the question under their consideration, and thanked the House for the attention it had given him.—(Cheers.) The House then divided, -when there appeared— For the motion ••• ••• ••• 73 Against it ... •-• ••• 116 Majority against the motion ...._ 43 Mr. FREWEN moved for leave to introduce a Bill to empower justices of the peace to unite parishes into districts, and to appoint a surveyor of highways to each district.—Agreed to. EXCLUSION OF STRANGERS. Colonel THOMPSON then moved, according to no tice, That this House will take into consideration the rule or practice whereby strangers have been excluded, , on the motion of any single Member, with a view to alter the same ; so that a motion for the exclusion of strangers shall be made and seconded, and ques tion thereupon be put, as is the practice with other motions." He did not mean to detain the House, at i that hour, by any lengthened remarks, nor was it requisite. This was a question that ought to be taken up immediately. There was, in his opinion, no diffi• , culty about it. The difference between the wrong and the right was palpable. He would be very happy t, dive up his motion, if any lion. Member would show him a single case in which the privilege would be abused, or lead to any injurious results if exercised under the , regulation he proposed. For his own part he hao imagined ev e ry p o ssible case, even to the verge of th, I romantic, without being able to see any valid reason ) against his motion, and he hoped that some Honourabh Member, of more experience than himself, would attempt to show the House what harm could arise from its adoption. lie had a strong impression that they should do everything in their power to keep up the reputation Of the Horse for wisdom, gad if that was the only legia- lativo assembly in the world that retained so absurd a regulation, it was time it was taken into consideration. He heartily hoped that something would be done to pre vent the repetition of the evil which had occurred re cently.—(Hear.) Sir G. GREY . said the question introduced by the Hon. and Gallant Member was one of very considerable importance, and one which could hardly be disposed of satisfactorily at that time of the night (within a few mi nutes of twelve o'clock). Ha was by no means prepared to say that the time might not come when the rules of their House might be revised, but it should be after mature deliberation and notice given, in order that Members might be present when it was discussed. If the Hon. and Gallant Member would move for a Com mittee, it would perhaps he the most satisfactory mode of attaining his object.—(Hear, hear.) Lord H. VANE understood his Right Hon. Friend to suggest the appointment of a Committee. His Hon. and Gallant Friend was prepared to accede to that sugges tion, if it was distinctly understood that the Committee h -id the approval of the Government. He thought the grievance was substantiated, and could see no objection to dealing with it. Mr. AG LIONBY would be very sorry to see the ques tion postponed to an indefinite period by the appoint ment of a Committee. It was simply a question, whether on the motion of a single Member strangers should be excluded, when it was well known that part of these strangers were this most valuable portion of the House. — (Laughter, and " Hear. hear.") A large portion of the utility of that House depended upon their presence, and he could not but admire the ability and talent they ex hibited in the midst of many difficulties. The situation in which they were placed, and the difficulty of hearing. the rapi lily with which many Hon. Members spoke— (Laughter)—the Hon. Member himself being a rather rapid speaker—and the imperfect way in which they ex pressed themselves, made the accuracy, impartiality, and fairness with which they were reported a miracle to him.—(Hear, hear.) By the proposal of his Hon. and Gallant Friend they would still have a sufficient guard against any abuse, and it was childish to say that any one Member should have the power to exclude strangers. The question was a plain and simple one, and he hoped would be decided at once. Strangers were ordered to withdraw, but during our absence from the gallery the Hon. and Gallant Member consented to withdraw his motion, at the suggestion of the Right Hon. the Secretary of the Home Department. The Incumbered Estates (Ireland) Bill was recom mitted, and the amendments introduced by the Solicitor- General were adopted. The Bill was ordered to be re printed, and the third reading fixed for the 4th June. LANDLORD AND TENANT BILL. Mr. PUSEY moved the third reading of the Landlord and Tenant Bill. Colonel SIBTHORP proposed, as an amendment, that it be read a third time that day six months. The House divided, when there appeared — For the third reading 74 Against it l5 Majority —s9 The Bill was read a third time, and passed. The Grand Jury Cess Bill was read a third time, and passed. Mr. T. D'EYNCOURT brought in a Bill to shorten the duration of Parliament, which was read a first time. The other orders were disposed of, and the House ad journed at a Quarter to One o'clock. CO URT CIRCULAR. - - OSBORNE, MAY 24. Her Royal Highness the Duchess of Kent, attended by Lady Augusta Bruce, Baroness de Speth, and Sir George Couper, arrived at Osborne yesterday afternoon about three o'clock, having crossed from Gosport in the Fairy yacht. • There was no other addition to the royal dinner party. The Queen and Prince, accompanied by his Royal Highness the the Prince of Wales, the Princess Royal, and the younger members of the:Royal Family, walked at an early hour this morning in the grounds at Osborne. A deputation on the subject of quit rents in South Australia, consisting of Sir William Verner, M.P., Hon. F. Scott, M.P., Mr. Mark Boyd, Mr. Charles D. Logan, and Mr. D. Q Henriquez, had an interview with Earl Grey yesterday at the Colonial-office. The Earl of Roden had an interview with Sir George Grey yesterday at the Home•office. A deputation on the Scientific Societies Exemption Bill had an interview with Lord John Russell yesterday, at his official residence in Downing street. The depu tation consisted of the Right Hon. T. Milner Gibson, Lard Dudley Stuart, Lord Brackley, Mr.Hodgetts Foley, Mr. Cobden. Mr. Ewart, Mr. Monckton Milnes, Mr. E. Banbury, Mr. Heywood. Mr. J. B. Smith, Mr. G. C. Legb, Mr. Thicknesse, Lord Wrottesloy, Mr. Schole field, Mr. C. Harding, Mr. Birkbeck, Mr. Toulmin Smith, Mr. Fisher, Captain Browne, and Mr. Stacey. The Ecclesiastical Commissioners for England had a general meeting yesterday, at their office, in Whitehall place. Mr. Higham, Secretary and Comptroller-General to the Commissioners for the Reduction of the National Debt had an interview with the Chancellor of the Ex chequer yesterday, at his official residence in Downing street. Mr. J. Reynolds, M.P., had an interview with Earl Grey yesterday. Mr. Yates had also an interview with the Noble Earl yesterday, at the Colonial-office. Mr. llorman had an interview yesterday with Lord John Russell. A deputation from University College, consisting of Mr. Warburton, Mr. John Wood, Right Hon. Edward Strutt, Hon. Mr. Denman, Sir Edward Ryan, Dr. Boot, and Mr. Field. had an interview yesterday with Sir George Grey, at the Home-office. Dispatches from the Governors of South Australia and Malts, and from the Lord High Commissioner of the lonian Islands, were received yesterday, at the Colonial office. _ _ _ Dispatches were sent off last evening from the Colonial-office for the Governors of Ceylon, Hong-Kong, and Malta. SOCIETY OF A►(TS. An ordinary meeting of this society was held on Wednesday evening, at eight o'clock, at their house, Adelphi. Mr. SCOTT RUSSELL announced that Mr.Milner Gibson the member for Manchester, would preside. The Hon. Member then took the chair, and was received with ap plause by a respectably attended assemblage, amongst whom were many ladies. The CHAIRMAN called upon the Secretary to read the minutes of the last meeting, which having been done, Mr. R. W. Urling, of Brussels, was proposed and admitted as an honorary corresponding member. The following gentlemen were then balloted for and admitted as subscribing members, viz :—Messrs. C. Eborall, the London-road railway station, Manchester; E. Davy, Fordham, Crediton, Devon ; J. C. Wakefield, Friday-street, London. The following gentlemen were proposed for admission at the last meeting of the society:—Henry T. Hope, Esq., M.P., Duchess-street; Charles Wentworth Wass, 8, Adam-street, Adelphi; William Cooper, 53, Union aLyo-sntdroenet,. The CHAIRMAN called upon Mr. G. Walks to read a Lon don;pl Union place, e , Robert eeHarrison,n; David 10 1 , 1 F oy ri d clay; 19 - Friday-street, of calico printing i n this countr y . paper upon the rise , pr o g ress, and p resent artistic con dition Mr. WALLIS then came forward and said, he was conscious that in b r inging that subject before the Society o f Arts he had undertaken a task of no ordinary diffi culty, in consequence of the enormous number of facts, and materials, and examples necessary to give a clear view of such a comprehensive question ; and he therefore trusted to the indulgence of the meeting, while he endeavoured to give, in a compressed essay, that which would require half a dozen lectures properly to explain it. He then went into a detailed summary of the history of calico printing, in its various stages and improvements, from its first introduction into this country in the year 1700 up to the present time, alluding to the various processes of improvement from the block printing system to the cylindrical machines now generally adopted, alluding as he went along to the various modern inventions in chemistry with respect to dying, machinery, and the application of artistic designs to the patterns, and referring to a great number of illus trative specimens produced on the occasion. After having concluded a lengthened paper, the meet ing was addressed by Messrs. Winkworth, Newton, Varley, and the chairman. A vote of thanks was then proposed to Mr. Wallis, which having been carried unanimously, the meeting broke up at half-past ten o'clock. Mn. T. DUNCOMBE.—We are happy to announce that Mr. Duncombe took his seat in the House of Com mons last night, shortly after Mr. Berkeley had com menced his speech on the ballot. The Hon. Representative for Finsbury, who has not been in the House since the swearing in of the now Parliament, appeared in excel lent spirits, though;he bore about him the traces of ill health, and coughed ft little. He was shaken most cor dially by the hand by several members of her Majesty's tou at Clark's Rooms, Edgeware• Government, and by all the well - known Reformers and Radicals meaelstl in THE meeting h LONDON ANTI-ENCLOSURE SOCIETY. —At h road, Mr. William Clark, jun., in the chair ; the question the on e H Mondayse. respecting the recent stoppage of the footway leading to West-end-lane, from the railway bridge in the Albany road, Kilburn, was taken into consideration. The secre tary declared such stoppage to be illegal, and added that from communications which he had had with the police, ho was enabled to state that they would allow the public to remove any obstruction there until Colonel Eyre, by whose orders such obstructions had been raised, could stop it in a legal way. The thoroughfare had been open above '2OO years. CAPTAIN MARRYAT.—The numerous admirers of the Author of " Peter bimple," " Frank Mildway," and a host of other fictions, which placed him in the highest rank amongst the literary favourites of the day, will be glad to learn that a new work from his pen called " Valerie, an Autobiography," is to appear forthwith. Although not deficient in many sparkling touches y of that vivacious humour which made Cap tain Marryat former worlcQ, perhaps, more amusing than those of any other contempirari novelist, the pr esent story is said to rely, for its chief attraction, on the deep d ome stic interest ex cited by the remarkable vicissitudes in the career of the heroine, and the striking p ortraitures of the va r i ous c h ara cters she meets with i n her j ourney through l i fe. FADVERTISE • ATENT ]—Tsx EARL OF ALDROROUGH AND HOLLOWAY'S PILLS.—An astounding cure by this miraculous m edicine, alter every other means had failed. Sec extract from his Lordship's letter, dated " Villa Messina, Leghorn, Feb. 21, 1845. Professor flolloway— Sir : I beg to acquaint you that your pills have ef fected a cure of a disorder in my liver and stomach which all the most eminent of the amity, at home and all over the continent, had not been able to effect; nay, not eves the waters of Carlsbad or Ma rienbad. 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Ashburton Fingall Beaumont Granville Byron Stuart de Decies ViTian IVharncliffe PARLIAMENTARY DIVISIONS: (From the Votes and Proceedings of the House of Carnnions.j THURSDAY, MAY 24. VOTE BY BALLOT. Motion made, and Question put, "'That leave be given to bring in a Bill to enabl3 the Votes of Parliamentary Electors to be taken by Ballot." The House divided:— MINORITY—AYES, 55. Adair, Hugh E. Freestun, Colonel Rawdon, Colonel Adair, R. A. Gibson, Thomas M. Ricardo, Osman Aglionby, H. A. Grenfell, C. P. Robartes, T. J. Alcock, Thomas Harris, Richard Rothuck, J. A. Armstrong, R. B. Henry, Alexander Salwey, Colonel Bass, M. T. Heywood, James , Scholerleld, William Berkeley, Captain Hill, Lord Marcus Sidney, Alderman Berkeley, G. F. Hodges, T. L. Smith, J. A. Bernal, Ralph Heppe', George T. Smith, J. B. Boyle, Colonel Kershaw, James Stuart, Lord D. Brotherton, J. King, P. J. Stuart, Lord J. Brown, W. Langston, J. H. Talfourd, sergeant Busfeild,WilliaM Lushington, C. Tancred, H. W. Callagham, D. 31`Cullagh,:W. T. Thicknesse, Ralph Clay, James Milner, W. M. Thompson, Colonel Clay, Sir W. Mitchell, A. T. Thornely, T. Cobden, R. Morris, David Villiers, Charles Cockburn, A. J. Muntz, G. F. Vivian, J. H. Collins, W. Nugent, Lord Walmsley, Sir J. Crawford, W. S. O'Connell, John Wawn, J. T. Dalrymple, Captain O'Connor, Feargus Westhead, J. P. Davie, Sir H. O'Flaherty, Anthony Willcox, Brodie Devereux, John T. Osborne, Ralph Willyams, H. D'Eyncourt, C. T. Pearson, Charles Wood, W. P. Duncan, George Pigott* Francis Wyvill, Marmaduke Dundas, Admiral Pilkington, James Evans, Sir De Lacy Power, Dr. TELLERS. E wart, William Power, Nicholas Berkeley, FL Ferguson, Colonel Pryse, Pryse Williams, John Fox, W. J. Raphael, Alexander MAJORITY—NOES, 136. Acland, Sir T. Euston, Earl Mackinnon, H. Anson, Viscount Foley,'.T. H. Magan,;W. H. Arundel, Earl of French, F. Maitland, Thomas Bailey, J., jun. Frewen, C. H. Maxwell, Hon. J. P. Baillie, H. J. Galway, Viscount Morison, Sir W. Bankes, G. Gaskell, J. M. Mostyn, E. Baring, Sir F. Goddard, A. L. 3tulgrave, Earl Baring, Thomas Gordon, Admiral Mundy, William Barrington, Viscount Goring, C. Neeld, Joseph Bateson, Thomas Goulburn, Henry Newdegate. N. Beckett, W. Grace, O. D. Newport, Viscount Bentinck, Lord H. Graham, Sir James Noel, Gerald J. Birch, Sir Thomas Granby, Marquis of Oswald, A. Blackall, S. W. Greenall, G. Owen, Sir John Blair, Stephen Greene, Thomas Palmerston, Viscount Boldero, H. G. Grey, Sir G. • Peel, "Sir Robert Bramston, r W. Gwyn, Howel Peel, Frederick Brand, Thomas Haggitt, F. R. Plumptre, J. P. Bremridge, Richard Harcourt, G. G. Portal, Melville Brooke, Lord Hayter, W. G. Powlett, Lord W. Buck, Lewis W. Heald, James Price, Sir Robert Buller, Sir V. Heathcoat, G. J. Repton, G. W. Burke, Sir T. J. Henley, J. W. Richards, Richard Burrell, Sir C. Herbert, Sidney Russell, Lord John Buxton, oir E. Hervey, Lord A. Russell, F. C. Campbell, W. F. Hill, Lord E. Rutherfurd, A. Carter, J. B. Hobhouse, Sir John Scott, F. Cavendish, C. C. Hope, Sir J. Smyth, John G. Cavendish, G.H. Howard, Lord E. Somerset, Captain Cavendish, W. G. Howard, E. G. Sotheron, T. H. S. Chaplin, W. J. Hughes, W. B. Stafford, Augustus Cobtiold, John C. Jocelyn, Viscount Stanton, W. S., Cochrane, A. Jones, Captain Stuart, 11. Codrington, Sir W. Labouchere, Henry Sutton, Henry Colebrooke, Sir T. Lacy, Henry C. 1 ownley, R. G. Coles, 11. B. Lascelles, W. S. Tyrell, Sir J. Colvile, C. R. Lemon, Sir C. Vane, Lord H. Crowder, R. B. Lennox, Lor.l 11. Verner, Sir W. Cubitt, William Lewis, Sir T. Williamson, Sir H. Deedes, W. Lewis, G. C. Wood, Sir Charles Denison, J. E. Lewisham, Via. Woretly, J. S. Dodd, George Lincoln, Earl of Wynn, C. W. Drax, J. S. W. E. Lindsay, Colonel Dundas, George Littleton, E. R. TELLERS. Dunne, Francis P. Lockhart, W. Cowper, W. F. East, Sir J. Lopes, Sir Ralph Verney, Sir 11. Edwards, Henry Lygon, General COLONIAL POSSESSIONS. Motion made, and Question put, " That leave be given to bring in a Bill for the better government of certain of our Colonial Possessions." The House divided: MINORITY—AYES, 73. Acland, Sir T. D. Fagan, William Mundy, William Adair, Hugh E. Fox, W. J. O'Flaherty, Anthony Adderley, C. 13. Gladstone, W. E. Palmer, Robert Aglionby, Henry Gore, W. R. 0. Pechell, Captain Alcock, Thomas Greene, John Pigot, Sir R. Anstey, TC. Henry, Alexander Pilklngton, James Bailey, Joseph, jun. Harvey, Lord A. Portal, Melville Bankes, George Heyworth, Lawrence Scott, Francis Barrington, Lord Hildyard, T. B. T. Scully, Francis Bennet, Philip Hodges, T. L. Sibthorp, Colonel Bentinck, Lord 11. Hope, Sir J. Sidney, Alderman Berkeley, Grantley Hope, A. Smyth, J. G. Brisco, M. Hornby, John Stafford, Augustus Broadley, 11. Johnstone, Sir J. Sutton, H. M Bruce, Lord E. Jones, Captain Taylor, T. E. Burrell, Sir C. KerMlichard Tollemache, John Campbell, W. F. Kershaw, James Tyrell, Sir J. Chichester, Lord .T. King, I'. J. Vane, Lord H. Clifford, Henry M. Lindsay, Colonel Williams, John Clive, 11. B. Mangles, R. 1). Willyams, H. Codrington, Sir W. Marsh 11, J. G. Wood, W. P. Crawford, W. S. Miles, P. W. S. Douglas. Sir C. Milner, W. M. TILLERS. Duke, Sir J. Moffatt, George Roebuck, J. A. Dundas,:George Molesworth, Sir W. Wyld, James Egerton, W. T. 3lonsell, William MAJORITY—NOES, 116. Abdy. T. N. Fordyce, A. D. Norreys, Lord Armstrong, R. B. Freestun,;Colonel Norreys, Sir D. Arundel, Earl of Frewen, C. 11. Paget, Lord Clarence Bagshaw, John Glyn, G. C. Palmer, Roundell Baines M. T. Gr en f e ll, C. P asco e P a l mers t on , Vi s . Baldock, E. If. Grey, Sir George Parker, John Baring, Sir F. T. Grey, Ralph W. Patten, J. W. Bellew, R. M. Grosvenor, Earl Power, Dr. Berkeley, Captain • Hawes, Benjamin Power, Nicholas Berkeley. C. L. G. Hay, Lord John Price, Sir R. Bernal, Ralph Ilayter, W. G. Pryse, ruse Birch, Sir T. Ileathcote, G. J. Pusey, P. Blackall, S. W. Henley, J. W. Raphael, Alexander Bouverie, E. P. Hobhouse, Sir J. Rawdon, Colonel Boyle, Colonel Holland, Robert Reynolds, John Brooke, Sir A. Hood, Sir .+lexander Ricardo, Osman Brotherton, Joseph Howard, Lord E. Rich, Henry Burke, Sir T. J. Howard, P. H. Romilly, Sir John Buxton, Sir E. Jervis, Sir John Russell, Lord J. Caulfeild, J. M. Jolliffe, Sir W. 11. Russell, Edward S. Chaplin, W. J. Keppel, G. T. Russell, F. C. H. Childers, J. W. Kildare, Marquis Rutherford, A. Chohneley, Sir M. Labouchere, Henry Seymour, Lord Coles, Henry B. Lascelles, W. S. Shelburne, Earl et Colvile, C. R. Lewis, G. C. Smith, Vernon Corbelly, M. E. Littleton, E. R. Somerville, Sir W. Cowper, W F. M`Gregor, John Talbot, C. It. Craig, W. G. Magan, W . 11. Ihicknesse, R. A. Crowder, R. B. Mahon, Viscount Thompson, Colonel Dalrymple, Captain Maitland, Thomas Townley, R. G. Davie, Sir Henry Martin, Samuel Townshend, Captain Dawson, T. V. Masterman, John Tynte, Colonel Denison, J. E. Matheson, Alex. Wilcox, Brodie Devereux, J. T. Matheson, Colonel Wilson, James D'Eyncourt, T. Maule, Fox Wilson, Matthew Dundas, Admiral Melguad, Viscount Wood, Sir_Charles Dunne, F. P. Moody, C. A. Elliot, J. E. Morris, David TELLIES. Evans, William Mulgrave, Earl Tafnell, Dewy Filmer, Sir E. Newdegate, C. N. Hill, Lord Marcus LANDLORu AND TENANT BILL. Order for Third Reading - read ; Motion made, and Ques tion proposed, "That the Bill be now read the third time." Amendment proposed, to leave out the word " now," and at the end of the Question to add the words "upon this day six months ;"—Question put, " That the word' now' stand part of the Question." The llousc divided:— MAJORITY—AYES, 74. MINORITY-NOES, 15. Aglionby, 11. Howard, Sir I{. Talbot, C. It. Broadley, Henry Jervis, Sir John Scott, Francis Burrell, Sir C. Miles, P. W. Vane, Lord H. Craig, W. G. Milner, W. M. TELLERS. D'Ericourt, C. T. Morgan, 0. Sibthorp. Colonel liernby, John Mostyn, E. M. Gwyn, Howel HER MAJESTY'S TREATER.—His Royal Highness Prince George of Cambridge honoured the performance at her Majesty's Theatre yesterday evening with his presence. The Queen's box was occupied by the Hon. Mrs. Anson, Mr. and Mrs. M. Ingram, Miss Ingram, the Hon. Mr. Vernon and party. Her Majesty the Queen Adelaide's box was occupied by the Earl and Countess Howe, the Marchioness of Worcester, and the Hon. Mr. Curzon. Among the audience were—His Excellency the Russian Minister, the Baroness Brunnow, Madlle.Olga de Lochner, and Madlle. de Brunnow; his Excellency the Swedish Minister and the Baroness Rehausen ; his Ex cellency the Austrian Minister and the Countess Colo redo • his Excellency the Sardinian Minister, the Duchess of R ichmond and Lady Caroline and Lady Augusta Gordon Lennox, the Duke and Duchess of Cleveland, the Duke and Duchess of Leeds and Miss Lane Fox, the Marquis of Granby, the Marquis and Marchioness of Ailesbury, the Marquis of Donegal, the Earl of Pem broke, the Earl of Besborough, the Ladies Ponsonby, the Earl of Lonsdale, the Earl of Cardigan, Earl of Munster, the Earl and Countess of Mint° and party, the Count Kou ' driaffsky, the Marquis de Pauli, M. de Berg, the Baron de Cazes, the Viscount and Viscountess Maidstone, the ' Viscount Clifden, Lord G. Paget. Lord and Lady Clarina and Miss Massey, Lord W. Lennox, Lord Ward, Lord and Lady Ashburton, Lord Arthur Lennox, the Right Hon. J. Grant, the Right Hon. Thomas Baring, M.P., Sir G. Carroll, Bart., Lady and the Misses Carroll, Sir R. Howard, Bart., M.P., and Lady Howard , the Baron de Gerlache, Sir G. Wombwell, Bart., LadyLadysCorAbelet,xandr e Flower, Lady Lisforil, Lieut.-General Sir Woodford, Bart., Lady and the Misses Woodford , Mr. Fitz william Hume, Sir Corn wallis Ricketts, B art., Major- General Macdonnell, &c. ROYAL ITALIAN OPE RA, COYENT•G ARDEN.—Her Majesty's box was occupied last evening by the Mar lqu 's and Marchioness of La n s d owne , the Earl and Countess of Shelburne, the Hon. James and Lady Louisa Howard and Lady Mary Hood. His Royal Highness the Conde de Muntemulin elso honoured the perform ance with his presence; his Royal Highness was accom panted by Mr. Spencer de Horsey and Miss de Horsey. Among the visitors were—his Excellency the Brazilian Minister and la Marquise Lisboa, his Serene Highness the Dike of Brunswick, the Duke and Duchess of Beau tort, Lady Harriet Samerset end Lady Rose Love!, Earl of Durham, Earl of Belfast, Earl of Pomfret, Countess Dqvvager of Essex and Miss Johnstone, Earl Granville, Viscount Exmouth, Viscount Maldon, Viscount Clifden, Viscount and Viscountess Ebrington, Lady Wallscourt, Lady Hislop, Sir Henry 'Webb, Bart., Sir John Bar oyne, Bart., and Lady Burgoyne, Sir Charles Marshall, Sir John Gordon Sinclair, Bart., Hon. Stuart Wortley, M.P., Hon. John Fortescue, M.P., Hon. Sidney and Mrs. Pierrepont, Mr. C. Morgan, M.P., Mr. H. B. Baring, M.P., &c. COUNTY CEss IN IRELAND.—A return obtained by Sir R. Ferguson shows that the gross total amount of county cess in Ireland remaining unpaid at the spring Glsizts of 1849 mei 184,2244 SPORTING INT'ELLIGENCE. EPSOM RACES.-THURSDAY. The assemblage on the Downs yesterday, as has in. variably been the case on Thursday since it became the " off" day of the meeting was very thin—more numerous, however, thanks to the extreme fineness of the weather, than on Tuesday. The sport did not exceed the average in quantity, and excited little interest; even the Graad Stand Plate, which, from the amount of the bonus, ought to have ensured a sporting race, produced a field of only eight horses out of an entry of 38, and was not touched upon in the ring until within twenty minutes of starting. In the course of the afternoon 501139 little business was done on the Oaks, at the prices quoted underneath. The Flying Dutchman was backed for the St. Leger at as little as 5 to 4. The Epsom Four yrs old Stakes of 50 sovs, each, h ft; colts, Bst 1 llb; fillies, ist 61b. The Now Derby Course. (6 subs.) Mr. Tubbs's The Comet ... ... walked over The Durdans Stakes of 10 sovs. each, 5 ft. if declared, &c.. with 50 added; three yrs old, Est 101 b; four, Bst 121 b; five, 9st 61b; six and aged, 9st 101 b; winners extra. The winner to be sold for 500 sovs. if de manded, &c., and allowances if to be sold for less. Last mile and a quarter of the New Derby Course. Mr. Dorrien's Sylvia, 3 yrs, Sat 51b...(R. Sherwood) 1 Mr. Greville's Paquita, 3 yrs, 4st 91b Mr. James's Miss Flower, 3 yrs, sst Mr. Drinkald's Grief, 3 yrs, sst 121 b Sir C. Cock - erell's Thibault, 3 yrs, sst 71b (car. sst 91b) 0 Mr. Dawson's Defaulter, 4 yrs, 7st 1 Olb 0 Mr. Griffiths's Lady Lift, .5 yrs, 7st 131 b 0 Mr. Tubbs's Comet, 4 yrs, 64t I lib 0 Mr. S. L. Fox, jun.'s Madrid, 4 yrs, 7st 0 Mr. Pedloy's Cockermouth, 4 yrs, Bst 81b 0 Betting-5 to 2 agst Grief, 4to 1 agst Paquita, 4to 1 agst Thibault, and 6 to 1 agst Defaulter. Sylvia took the lead immediately after starting, made all the run ning, and won cleverly by a length, the same between second and third. Run in 2 min. 22 sec. The winner claimed. ~....._. The Grand Stand Plate of 200 soya., added to a Handi cap Sweepstakes of 25 Boys each, 15 ft, and only 5 if declared, &c.; the second to receive 50 sous, out of the stakes, and the third 25 sous. Metropolitan Stakes Course. Lord Exeter's Swordplayer, 4 yrs, 7st 91b (Flatman) 1 Sir G. Heathcote's Countess c, 3 yrs, sst 111 b ... 2 Col. Anson's Backbiter, 4 yrs, 7st 61b 3 Lord Eglinton's Eagle's Plume, 4 yrs, Bst 31b ... 4 Sir J. B. Mill's Cymba, 4 yrs, Bst 41b Mr. E. R. Clark's Alpheia, 4 yrs, 7st 41b Mr. Burgess's Trap, 4 yrs, 7st llb •• • 0 Lord Exeter's Skudar, 3 yrs, sst 91b ... ... ... 0 Betting-6 to 4on Swordplayer, 9to 2 agst Skudar, 6 to 1 agst Trap, and 7 to 1 agst Backbiter. Trap jumped off with the lead, followed by Backbiter and Swordplayer, and made play for nearly a mile and a half, he was then headed by Swordplayer, who went on with the running to Tattenham Corner, Trap, Back biter, Sir Gilbert Reathcote's colt and Skudar there closed with him, and they travelled together to the dis tance; Swordplayer recovered the lead at this point, and ran home a clever winner by a length. Run in 4 min. 22 sec. The Nonsuch Stakes of 15 sovs each, 5 ft, with 25 added for two-year olds, 7st, and three, 9st. Fillies and geldings allowed 31b. Half a mile. Duke of Richmond's Ploughboy, 3 yrs ...(Flatman) 1 Mr. Jenkins's Miss Larkaway, 2 yrs Captain Archdall's Rose Pompon, 2 yrs Mr. Ford's Fuoco, 3 yrs ... ... Mr. J. Scott's Albrecia, 2 yrs Mr. Price's Lysimachus, 3 yrs ... ... ... 6 Betting-6 to 5 agst Miss Larkaway, sto 2 agst Ploughboy, and 5 to 1 agst Albreda. Ploughboy made all the running, and won easily by a length. Run in 50 secs. _ _ _ _ The Cobham Stakes of 5 sot's. each, and 30 added; the winner to be sold for 1501., &c. Heats one mile. Six subscribers. Sir G. Heathcote's bl f, out of Miss Wilfred, 3 yrs. 6st 41b ... (Sherwood) 1 0 1 Count Batthyany's Lepidus, 3 yrs, Est 71b ... 0 1 3 Mr. Dawson's St. Oswald, 5 yrs, Bst 21b ... 0 0 2 Mr. Douglas's Sam Hood, 4 yrs, Bst 41b ... 0 0 4 Mr. Edwards's Bayonet, 4 yrs, Bst 41b 0 2 dr. Mr. R. King's Self Defence, 4 yrs, Bst 41b ... 2 dr. First heat-2 to 1 agat Miss Wilfred filly. Won by a length. _ _ _ Second heat-7 to 4on Miss Wilfred, and 3to 1 agst St Oswald. Won by a length. Third heat-5 to 4on Miss Wilfred, and 3to 1 each apt Sam Hood and St. Oswald. Won by a length. THE OAKS.-PROBABLE STARTERS, 84,C: Riders. Mr. Wreford's Woodlark ... ... ...A. Day. Mr. Payne's Glauoa ••• ... ...Flatman. Lord Chesterfield's Sister to Arkwright ...F. Butler. Mr. F. Clarke's Lady Tryphena ... ...S. Mann. Mr. Cuthbert, jun.'s, Emma Dorms ...Holmes. . _ Lord Strathmore's Eva ... ...J. Marson. Lord Stanley's Escalade ... ...Templeman. Mr. Greville s Clarissa ... ... ...Rogers. Mr. Whitworth's Lady Jersey ... ...Marlow. Lord Exeter's Grace ... ...Bartholomew. Duke of Richmond's Highland Fling ...Kitchener. Mr. B Green's Lady Superior . Wintringham or Robinson Mr. Bell's Imperatrix ...Bumby. Mr. E. Jones's Docility ... ...Whitehouse. Mr. B. Way'• Dolly Varden BETTING ON THE COURSE. THE OARS. 7 to 2 agst J . Day's lot 4 to 1 agst Sister to Arkwright 1 1 to 2 agst Glauca 5 to 1 agst Clarissa 7 to 1 agst Woodlark 12 to 1 agst Imperatrix— taken 12 to 1 agst Escalade—taken 18 to 1 agst Eva. Our time was eo much occupied on Wednesday with other duties that it was impossible to obtain a list of the fashionables present. We now give as full a one as cir cumstances will admit of:—Dukes of Beaufort and Mon • trose; Marquisses of Granby, Devonshire, and Exeter; Earls of Besborough, Caledon, Chesterfield, Eglinton, Glasgow, Granville, Jersey, Rosslyn, Stradbroke, Wilton, March, and Strathmore; Lords Canterbury, Stanley, Vivian, Newport, Dunkellin, Vane, H. Lennox, C. Man ners, G. Manners, S. Osborne, J. Scott, and Howth ; Viscounts Clifden, Exmouth, Bateman, Forester, and F. Fitzroy; Baron Rothschild, Count Batthyany, Sirs C. Monck, G. Heathcote, G. Armitage, I). Baird, R. Pigot, J. B. Mill, C. Cockerel!, W. Codrington, M. Farquhar, Campbell, G. Houston, J. Hawley, W. W. Wynn; Hobbles. H. Pitt, Colonel and Mrs. Anson, Captain Rous, [I. Forrester, C. Forrester, Major Boyle, Colonel Stan - ley; Colonels Peel, Bouverie, Hornby, Ferguson, and Campbell; Countesses of Chesterfield, Wilton, Eglinton, and Sefton. An accident occurred on the Derby Day on the Brighton Railway, near the junction of the Epsom with the main line, which had well nigh been attended with the most disastrous consequences. As we are informed, one of the special trains, which left Epsom about six o'clock in the evening, was stopped at Croydon to put down passengers; owing to some unaccountable neglect the usual signal was not made, or if made was not seen by the driver of a train which left Epsom shortly after six o'clock; the consequence was a collision, by which one or two carriages was smashed, and the passengers pitched about in all directions. The confusion was awful, but strange to say, although several persons re ceived contusions or flesh wounds, no life was lost, nor were any bones broken. We take for granted that the cause of the accident will undergo an investigation. THE ARMY. The following circular letter, dated War Office, May 18, 1849, has just been issued to officers commanding regiments:— " Sir, —With reference to the Horse Guards circular, dated September 16, 1845, prescribing the monthly rates to be paid by non-commissioned officers and soldiers for their instruction in the regimental school, and also to the general order, No. 591, dated the 10th of April lash requiring that all recruits shall attend the garrison or regimental school daily until dis missed from drill, to receive instruction, I am directed to acquaint you that, from the 10th of April last, all re cruits so attending the schools are to be subjected to the charge of 4d. per month. " The amount of subscriptions at this rate is to be charged to the recruits monthly, from the dates on which they commence to receive instruction from the regimental schoolmaster, and to be paid over to the paymaster of the regiment or depot under your com mand, who will give credit for the same in his quarterly pay list. " The regimental schoolmaster is to furnish to the paymaster a monthly list of the names of the recruits who have received instruction from him, containing their names, and the periods from and to which, and the number of days they have attended the school. " This return will enable the paymaster to charge the officer paying troops or companies with the amount of subscriptions due, and he will then annex it to his pay list to explain the credit given. " A quarterly list in the same form will be transmitted through you by the regimental schoolmaster to the Se cretary at War. I have the honour to be, Sir, your most obedient humble servant, " L. Suuvew." CORK, MAY 22.—0 n Wednesday a draft of the 38th Regiment, consisting of 1 captain, 1 subaltern, 2 ser geants, and 82 rank and file, embarked on board the Apolline transport for conveyance to Nova Scotia, to join the service companies. The ship Fifeshire is daily expected to arrive in Cove for the conveyance to Canada of the 71st and 79th drafts, which arrived in this garri son on the 16th instant. A draft of the 19th Regiment arrived on Saturday, per Ocean steamer, from Dublin, to await conveyance to Montreal, in which place the service companies are at present stationed. A draft, consisting of 1 officer and 72 rank and file of the 6th Royal Warwickshire Regiment, arrived this day; also a draft of I. officer and 52 rank and file of the 73d Regi.. meet. Those drafts are to await the arrival of the llugh Walker transport, which is to convey them to the Cape of Good Hope. ROTIIERHAAL—Two men have been taken into custody for selling what purported to be "An account of the dreadful assassination of Emily Sandford, by Rash's sun James." The paper purported to have been copied from a telegraphic dispatch, and stated that young Rush had invited his victim to the new residence of his family, and that her brains had been beaten out by a poker, and that she died instantaneously. The whole story was false, and the two " flying stationers" will be punished for their infamous hoax. SINGULAR ACCIDENT:A.In Jelinger Symons was prevented from attending the dinner of the Herefordshire Society by serious. ndisposition, caused by a singular accident on Wednesday last. It appears that Mr. Symons was riding incautiously within reach of the breakers on the beach at Aberystwithovhen horse and rider were knocked down and immersed by an unusually large wave. —Hereford Journal.