The Sun. — London, England, 1820-09-09 00:00:00

• . . " LONIiON JOURNALS: i6il IL Y E TR A.C21.3 MGM THE MORNING PAPERS• [Morning 'Herald.] Yesterday the points discusse.d and decidei ;D. istlC :l ouse of 'Pe ers*ere e.:ttremely interesting. . : .its,Brougharn requested of the House . that he -Atoni4 te.perm;tted to state his case, it being hiS•discretiOn to call his, witnesses imrny diately After the statement, or after the delay which the House had. signified .its intentiou of ••. • -• granti4g..him.. This, proposition was ably de' r " Ineed - on both Lick's, and finally negatived by a • majority of 165 to 6'o. - Mr. Brouharn next prO ',hat ,be..abould be. permitted to reply to the S'olkitor-General's summary of the evidence ut the BEli, viiitiOnt at all touching uponn - his own application also was' negatiVed . by of 170 to 49. Mr. Brougham makes hii election, and communicates it ,t the Peers.at ten thi!!, day..---=.l,st: 'night it . was . rurnoured that ' hid determined to abandon the clefc;nCe in the Lords, and wait .the contingency of the. Bill's coming .clown to. the. Commons_; whilst otheri ..said he wonidirrocettl_ forthwith with his case in • fUll. We mention_these rumours Withotit know .ing,Any thing of their foundation. pfornin.r Post.] TuE TRIAL OF THE QUEEN.-‘--111 the House of Lords yesterday ? Mr. Brougham announced it to • decision of her Majesty _ to protieed. to her ‘, deflnice forthwith. Being - asked by the Lord Chancelior, if he meant to go on with his 'cas'e to the end, !litt.Larned Gentldrnan, ida retna'rkahl/ low and.subdned - tone; expressed doubt whether e should .feel it necessary to .call evidence.' That might depend on the impression which his state.: intent should make on their Lordships. If he did ca 1 witnesses, he might proteed to examine those in-mediately, who were at hand ' • but time might be" necessary to, bring forward those who were at a distance. The meaning of this was, that the L.4ariied Connsel was dispOsed to make his open: . . 'lug speech forthwith, exahitne as many witnesses as he thought pro - per,' and then' claim time to seek for more. This Unfair course was natur . v.llY obi jected to, and the' Fail of Liverpool . moved that theqUeen's;CounSel shOuld 'be instructed, that irthey 'commenced their defence, they must go on with'it to the end ; but if time Were required, gitly reasonable delay would 'be accorded. On this the Ilonse•divided,wheiithe numbers Vere-. for the motion, .165; against it, 60--majority 105. Mr. lirmighain then desired to be allowed to - ' comment on the evidence which had been ad diced, without making allusion to the evidence which he himself might hereafter feel it necessary to produce. This was reasonably. considered toerether incompatible with the resolution to Which • I the . ' flouse bad just coine, andl'ineaiis still more irregular and objectionable than that proposed ill the first instance, (no evidence being proposed' to he adduced to disprove'any Of 0)A:1)1.6-Vett tai:AS)'; dad a second division too'::, plact-L:cOriteh6i, 40 ; non-contents, 170—m'ajotity, 121. The Majori ty) it will be seen, was considerably larger in the • second instance than in the . first: ; and on this de •-Mr. ,Brougham requeited. tO be allowed ter* ten o'clOck this . day to &tilde on the course whit - . 4 be may 'think it beA for the interests of her A,:et:ty to parsue. [Morning The - , decision to which the House of Lords cimeyesterdaY, with respect to the manner in which' the COuniel fOr the Queen condUct b'er defenCe,- is perfectly in unison with their re fusal to communicate to her. .a specifiCation of charges, or a .list of witnesses. The jealousy, louse displayed in the case Of Lord' A4,eiville, lest .o: prejudice should he excited it,'itinst that indiVidual in the public mind, by the' pailcatiedi of the' proceedings from day to day, w4i; t'o' the great surprise of many, relaxed in this ease—a.case in which, of. all others, a.s the , honour arid reputation of a Lady Were . at Stake (tiyirigaiide the Moials Of the cOUtitiY), thent ,Most, Vigilane and CircuirispeCtion knight have, ; and thus for weeks and months the public have been served with regular doses' Of- all Manner, of . giosi charges against her Ma jvtsty, the shape of Green Bag Reports; Bills, itateMents of Counsel, and Eiidence of Wit neoses.' Lilt the moment the whole store of mat .tei•-treasured up against her Majesty, cOmeS to be "exhinsted, that moment the Jealousy. of their , Lf4rdships would -seem to begin. to display itself. aftei the possess ion .Whrch the prosecu tors have so long had without interruption Of the public, it:Was not, demanding 'tao much to'ask, that the House should at least heal whit the queen can urge in her . deferice? But when 'Mr. Brougham tells their- Lordships that it' is' his ia.tention to proceed forthwith, the L'Ord• dhan _cellar stops him sbort, With 'the inforination, that Courisel.pl4g,ed themselVes, - before open-' inff, their co:Se; they would go on without delay to the end, .they "cannot be allowed to proceed. Well might the Marquess 'of Lansdown observe, - Uiat a treaty of this kind with a Counsel, 'is one ,6(the most extraordinary proceedings eVer'adopt edin any Court 'of Justice. What, shall-an accus ed-party be prevented from entering' on his -or' her defence ? Shall a Court of JUstice interrupt its` owns proceedings; unless that party engage to fol low in every subsequent stage the course which L. most agreeable *to the Court ? f' her Majesty's Gulrusgt.do not choose to go on without delay to ihe• end of the evidence, the House can then do withouthearing. all. the evidence, what it • is not improbable it will, now be allowed to di), without hearing eiOier 'statement or evidence, that is, come to a deciOon on the case. Not however, .thought , their Lordships ; a:ad on a di vision'it was decided in favour of , this Treaty, by a;wajority of. 160 to 55. A subsequent proposi tion of Mr. Brougham, to be allowed to comment ttiii clay, on the summing up of the Solicitor t, ep : eral, was. rejected by a majority of 170 0) 40.--LMi•; 13rOughim: undertook to give a final answer to flie‘proPosltip s n their L•J:dillips at eleven o'clo*this.day. Why should their Lord= Ships be so anxious to regulate the mode in which her Majesty's Counsel shall conduct her defence, and to insist that without undertaking to call evidence forthwith, they shall , not. be allowed to commence,? Perhaps - COunsci, as Earl Grey ob . serveo, :may, after addressing their Lordships; and 'witnessing the effect of that address, deem it unnecessary to calla any witnesses at all. Their 'Lordships surely would not allow themselves to .be inthienced . by statements. of Counsel which are not borne out by proof ; and if there is a disadvantage in having the speech . , of Counsel . be - fore the PubliC unsupported by. evidence, how long have the charges of the prosecution been before the Public without being supported by , proof ? Surely .when all, the pOwer of the State has been arrayed, and half . of the Potentates of , Europe have been called into the 'fie ld ' a g ain s t one helpless wciman., it is rather too much that every advantage in the manner of conducting the proceedings should also be 'giVen to the party possessed of such fearful odds. • [British Press.] The" decision of the House of Lords upon the first qUestion submitted to them yesterday, suf . & eiently marks the course that.will Most probably be adopted this day, should 'Mr. BrOugharn be unwilling to trust the defence of his Ill'ustrious Client to the testimony of such few witnesses as may *chance to be at present in London, or those: on whose attendance he might calculate within a day or two. He.will, in short, not be permitted to separate the statement from the evidence, but' he will be allowed the power of postponing' the defence altogether, to such time as he might think necessary' for assembling his witnesses. We la: anent extremely, for the interests of justice, that the House of Lords should have felt themselves so strictly bound by what they conceive to be the praCtice in cases of ordinary occurrence, as to be unable to grant the indulgence now prayed by her Majesty's Counsel. Their Lordships, no doubt, are placed in a sitnation of same difficulty and embarrassment, but they ought not to forget that the condition of the Queen at .the same time is not exempt from hardship and danger, and that while they are endeavouring to pursue an ima ginary principle.ol consistency in their proceed ings, from which by the way they have already egregiously deyiated, they are exposing the il lustrious Defendant, no .doubt unwillingly upon their parts, to'an evil the most severe that could befal her short of. actual conviction. To her Majesty therefore it: matters little whether the House of Lords'acts as we doubt not they do, in every instance, mosthonestly, and conscientiously, if at .the . very moment. that they ,are Priding themselves in their wisdom and integrity, she is made to suffer such calamities as it, might be supposed that nothin g but injustice or folly could inflict. The Lord Clianeellor and the other Noble Lords who oppoSed the proposition, ad mitted that even their Lordships, her Majesty's sworn judges, who are bound by every sense of duty and of honour to keep their judgments free from every impression until the whole case be fully and fairly laid before them, must of neces sity within the course of two proceeding should the , proceed be so long suspended,. have their minds influenced in some degree by the case for. the prosecution, - and that the public, not guard infi their minds, with the same precautions, must feel this influence more sensibly, [New 77mes.] Every man of honourable mind must feel deep ly impressed at the present moment with the ne; cessity of suspending 'his judgment on the con; duct of, her Majesty. The more disgusting are the details of the evidence, the more, painfdl, must it be to conceive that they can be truly averred of a Queen of • England. It is, hoir ever, Of . infinite importance, that w,e should . distinctly comprehend the case as it stands,: upon: the depositions ~of the •witnesses ; :that . we should see hOW- far it coheres together, and what sort of defence it requires on 'the part of her 'Majesty. We have gone patiently through . the depositions' in chief, and shall,, as soon as we can find'space for such' an article, preSent to Our ltea.ders a brief, but faithful abstract of the evidence in chief, leaving to a future time , the consideration, how far its effect may be weakened by the cress-examinatiOn, and ,the! evidence . any) which her'Majesefs Legal Advisers may' deem it necessary to adduce.—Be fore we enter on the evidence4however, we must observe, that it is solely ininfinett,to facts alleged to have- occurred sul•seguently to the month of October, 1814. At that' tithe We . fitid her Ma - - jesty (then - Princess of Wales), at Milan, tra velling, by her own choice, and with - the full per-' mission of her Royal Consort,.hu . t.certainly with sonic reasons for, more than -ordinary restraint over her conduct. She was a ProteStaut Prin cess .inp. Catholic Co:it - Au. She was,a d e scen-; dant of illustrious House of Britnswick; which had so long',and so. deejily suffered 'from the re volutioi►ary Tury o 1 the times,and fromt the violent: aggressions of theBdohaParteatt Usurpation. She was closety connected with,the inOral‘nation of . Britain. She had. a lovely, daughter living, to whom she was bound to set an example of purity; and she had some yeah, before had the Misfortune: to incur. from her. Venerable : and Royal Fither- , a serious aclinonftiOn on her olin intlisere tions. . : , Add to this; that she was under the per suasion (however unfounded) that she was stir.; rounded by spies and persons ready to take ad-' • vantage of any error that she might fall into ; and it will not be easy ,to conceive a situation more' imperiously calling on a female for the utmost degree of reserve, and -modest dignity in her conduct toward every individual of the other sex. [The es.] The proceedings in the house of Lords yes. terday . resumed, to a certain degree, their ordi. nary form, and, instead of judicial investigation were converted into debates and divisions—ii the latter of which it is unnecessary to say which party 1)k/dined the greatost numbers. The first aild most important suby.t of contantiou— a .subject, by : the way, which, is still-, under certain restrictions, left to thedecision of Counsel —was, whether the Queen's legal advisers should be so confined, that if they now under,took to open their case,. they. should be obliged also to , call their witnesses .forthwith; with .art understanding, that if, in consequence of this premature opening; the great body or any part of .the evidence could not be produced, they should still not be allowed any farther - delay at a, subsequent period. Upon this point we only wish to call general attention to the speech and previous inquiries of Lord Lans do wn : that speech, so cOnvincing—those inquiries, 'so dexterous—leave : us nothing. to say : they. are 'concluSive. There will be, no need .for. any fur ther observation with the nation at large. In reply . to _some correlative, matter which was trodoced by another Noble Lord, the. Ear! of Liverpool contended that the present. mode of proceeding against' her ;Majesty, however bur dened With difficulties and impeded by ob;truc _ Lions, was yet more humane toward; the party accused than proae - ss by impeachment. Why, in the' case of impeachment, the Lords would have hail to decide absolutely., and per se, as Judges, the Commons beim only the accusers ; whereas, in the present instance, the Commons are Judges alsb ; and we think it paying the Lords but a moderate compliment to say, that less humanity would, in a supposititious, and, as we :hall soon see, impossible case, have been dealt out by them singly, than is likely to be dealt out by them in the present instance, when united with the Commons. R. TLIE SUS. MR, EDITOR—.AS the name of MARIETTI, of Milan, has occurred frequently of late in the proceedings in -the - House of Lordse I wish td know, and perhaps Mr. 811 0 UGIIAM IS' best qualis. Pied to afford - the-information, whether the Gen tlemen in question are the Bankers at Milan who, several yeaii since, instituted proceedings in this Country. against her M AJESIPY then Princess of WALES, against Mr. BnOUGOAM, and others ? The case, ass stated against the Princess of WALES, would, amongst vulgar individuals, have eSmounted: "to a punishable -offence, though, pro bably, whew applicable to the • above popular Personage, is to be called by the tender name of a simple contrattslebts However that may be, I ,apprehend that MeSsrs. or Seigniors MARIETTI have succeeded in obtaining their demand by a 'quicker process . than that of a Court of Justice, and the services which these Bankers are so ready' to acknowledge as afforded by Mr. IsstoliGllAM, are probably , his recommendation and influence, as to the propriety of stopping, Without further delay,.an. inquiry which, amongst individuals of common honesty, was not calcu lated to exalt the character of the distinguished Personage in question: If such be the facts of the transaction, the MARI ETTIS, at least, have' been .gainers by the pending: . investigation, and their assistance in regulating the witnesses for the Bill has thus been judiciously purchased. Hence; however, arises another subject of in quiry, namely, whether the several thousands claimed, if I am rightly informed, by these per sons, have been paid out of the sums demanded by her MAJESTY'S Legal Advisers for . the defence of her injured honour ? To this question also . Mr. BROUGHAM can best give an answer; and,. if it should be in the affirmative, it will require: more ingenuity than this Learned Gentleman: possesses to satisfy the public that sums so ap plied can come within the rule stated by her MAJESTY'S Advocates. 'We do not state these circumstances as facts, but as circumstances worthy inquiry ; and. we trust that his Msuisty . 's Ministers will see .the propriety of ascertaining exactly in, what manner funds so liberally ad vanced have been or shall be expended. We trust that Missrs. BROUGHAM and DENMAN will be called on- • i pledge their professional character that. these .sums have been or shall be no other wise employed than in her MAJ ESTYN strictly legal defence ; that they shall not be-wasted on the COBBETTS,' the BEssnows,•and the Woot.eas, whose dirty fingers are constantly-dipping in ink to the very knuckles to outrage all decency and common sense; that they are not expended in paying for the - two hundred copies per diell2 which we are told .her MAJ ESTY takes of the wretched Times ' that they are not at the cm - in-nand of a Druggist's Porter or a 'Porter Druggist, of a *Commission: Shawl-Broker; or a Jacobin Schoolmaster, or of a + Pedlar, traffic ina- for 'preferment, and, acting his dirty part under a.Grecian mask.' These inquiries must be saasfactOrily answered, to'cenvince 'a loyal and thinking People 'that money, so plentifully fur nished is honestly appropriated; and spite of the frantic ravings 'of the drunliens Editor of a cer tain time-serving Journal, the great mass of the respectable England is still loyal, and still sufficientlyioepe o re l flec f ting, to think that in a case where the-lowest of - menial .servants is said to be exalted 'from his grdvellit* duties to the table, the, companiens,hip,,end the :arms of his mistress, there ought to be - a 'full and sao.sfactory investi gation` of .dll the .'circumstances so new to our 'h.abiti and so'diiguStitig to our feeling-Fs TOUCHSTONE. 'rhe worthy inaividual floe incant will surely understand this allasion. • • flu! woray Doctor in question dotibt:egs recollects the lateLnrtl CuEnwottilt : if his aleinfiry be defective, we can refresh it, and amuse the Pahlic %g it it certain col rest anec -dotes respecting the Grecian•and that IN , d)!e Veer. ATTEMPTED Sutcror.—Yesterday a dreadful attempt at suicide was 'witnessed in the London road, Surrey. A middle-aged man, who, by the singularity of his conduct, bad excited the no tice of the passengers, watched an opportunity to throw himself before the wheels of a heavy coal waggon, on the side that the driver coula' not see him ; he must have been crushed ta pieces, .but for the itittepidity: of a gentleman who was coming in the opposite direction, and who fortunately succeeded in stopping the horses, just as the forewheel bad touched his cheek. which it slightly grazed. The unfortunate man had that mbining escaped from a lunatic asylum. FOR TEE SUN. POLITICAL AST ItONOM Y. Thurs,lay, M. gp,lTon—You are .now, _doubtless, oc cl T pied ; in :preparing an: account of the Celes tit Eclipse for.your_readera, who, if they can sm oke glass,. know just as much about it 'as you d o : but.l, Sir, who am now smoking and taking„ glass, as a kind of rehearsal for our patriot' t Club, ,have to lament a greater Eclipse; whii s sitting myself eclipsed in the _Sun, not by t tf MOON, but from the Moori, whom my poor resembles in_every thing but.the liorns whim however, are still-in the. family ! Sir, the Eclipse, to which I-allude, is a. poll', tical one—Hear it Su N, Moon, :and Stars li . derntan WOOD has eclipsed. Alderman WArri t .MAN! /. Oh, Sir, Moonr. never calculated thatil doU't mean PaTEn, for he is no conjurer-- 0 Moon; - that' great astrologer, who was al! blind to other conjunctions in the Milky W 3 5,.: which have already produced two or. three 5t. 0 ,,.." in the new Constellation of St. Bartholomew, tlw ; Patron Saint- of. the Fair. N9ve, Mr. Editei none of . your quips, and quirks, and ptio . ,!" nor your half-laughs and purser's grins at tu° Countess del P—p—p—No ! nor the COUDIT° OF OLDI, that was and was not ! M STAI/S AN') OARTEItS! both these Lstlit i shall be primary planets: in the. new sign t i Virago in the Bar-Tolemaic Zodiac ! Once it!' had a.,Ptolernean System, in which the eariLi was at rest, whilst sun, moon and stars (Ltti° round her—and there are folks who still 1 1 &.10, 6 in it. Now we have a Rurtolornaic Systeal; ° which cne Lady is at rest, whilstthe Tyco all are in a. conspiracy round her ! But Gol' 0 : NICUS dernonqrated that the earth turns - ,reair . the pole and moves round an elliptical orbit v;i' two focuses, End pray is it not as easy to denili :v strata the motions of terrestrial bodies tinon 4 . 11° same principle ? Your's, FOOTPAD RODliiltY.---AVDdete:ian CVCII:g Mr. Austery, an artist, of Poland-street, going from Hampstead to Baker-street; lie stopped by two footpads near the buritA-groul ,d i who robbed him of hiswatch and' tv, , snty"V,' shillings. Thfy Used'shocking imprecation-•' no violence. They escaped- towards paddioi i ton, and - are supposed to belong to 'one of 7 i",, gangs there. We are authorized to state, that Sir Frr;3‘', Colombine Daniel, M.D. hag -accepted sf, pointment of Treasurer to the Medical established by Messrs. COOPEn'and Co. at lotte House, Surrey.—Messrs. Cooerin. tinel ii`!; have frequently inserted Letters from vari9,',l individuals who have been radically not only of Ruptures, but of other & I)I D ' gerous• diseases, too often deemed incurable Professional men, whose practice is confined The late Duke of Bedford unfortunately lot w), life in a few hours, by a strangulated Mr. Mills, of the Kent-road, also Bst his lift a few hours ;Mr.Shearman, crf -Mile End, tiro;' i afflicted for many years, and many, many ()th e r' whose names -wi:l never'appear without th:.•irf"; :quest. Mr. ;Johnson, of the. Borough; who hnd 17 months under the care of:several eminent .s , i r ', geons, with a most dangerous . diseaSe, and life was given over, as appeared, by his atilt l3) before Mr. Altikerman Wood,- then Lord' MitY' 4 r i and whose Case llRS:been.seen by more than 10 059 A, geons, was in a feviweeLs restored to pe rfe ct Such are the, proceedings at the Nedical 13t0„, Charlotte House, Charlotte-street; road-; and Woodstock-Home, near. Bond-sti. under the , immediate direction of Messrs. and Co., -who_ are consulted daily 'from ehi,bt:, the morning until eight in the evening . -; thanks hive advice gratis every evening t + '`' six to eight, and on :Sunday mornings LI I P . twelve o'clock. ---7-7-- COUR.S - E OF 'EXCHANGE, SErr. ,•; A ms terdam Ditto, at Rotterdam l2 7 Antwerp ilatnburgli 37 IS _II Altima • 7 v.Ol Paris, 3 Day's - sight /5 70 1 44 Ditto • - ir ,•••• . Bout tleaux, ditto i , l it Frank tort on t lie Niain Madrid -11 l';f 1l' , Cadiz i3ilhoa .. 34 - V.l''' riarcdotta • crille (-iibraltar - So LegliOrti " , . Genoa v: ?-'—>• Ital. Liv. 3:7 at Malta - P.tlerroo and 4 Lisbon 0 part o ItioJaneiyo Dil4liti 7 G;cl; 3 ' L I' CL 13T.; LLION Portugal Gold, in Coin - ' - 1 .0 0 0 F e cop Foreign Gold, in Bars s :7 10. i New Doubloons New Dollars 6 4 101 ,ilver in Bars, Standard 0 4 01 /, ......;::—.;.;.:;;.-. --- ....;,;ii.;" BIIITIIS. . • . La g . . Yesterday, in Montague:p;ac , ; ituselLsqua're, tbt , IL V. Richards, Esq. of tt•ti,oghter. 11 4 ' ff Yesterday, a,t luny!' Stiotlatid-yi4id, Whitehall% Dir s ' ht Smedley, of a daught Cr. ' ' • - At Gloucester, on Ftiday the 1.1 instant, the Ladi t : t o , Rev. D r , Hall, Master of l'embrvli,, f o , le1.111;1:•.D. , . ' . ,t aft Stataord, on the'Sth'i l, . nst , Ali% Roheyt 111'W.",,' i d l . l - 0 London, to Harriet, daughter o f I)onitia Cameron, j, j , Caritra , .b, kt e of Astracan. ‘‘, O ;110°,4, On Thursday last: Gat St. ei‘ry e ' s , 1310,;nstiorY , "i ~ 1 4 " A, Carpenter, I.‘q. of Furnivar , : i•vn, b odieit or, .tO :,3tir*. youngest dangl:ter of J. Dretteil, ,Eig of Carol i ne ' y iledfurd-square. _ _______---' , jot mr.' . Yesterday morning, after a •hit severe iiln4 o re , d Palmer, auctioneer, of lYitopole-ttreef„,easemin , h' in:r3 On Tuesday, at her house, ,c1, 1 , / ,1, A ,,,, St. l'a -G ;D/ - 71, Susannah Catharine Kiddineosi, w idow of the S t rot Kidding,t on. Gent. of Park-strcet, Grosse:mi.-square' At. an advanced age, in coosyquence of having r,"11110,E0) into his hand, w , which occasioned a luck .J jaw, Nlr•t .iu a , farmer, of Hor‘ton:Gloocotetshire. ,•0 On the of July, at Getera, agetl.36, ap °. • Gordon, of time sth Pragcots quandA. 11 1 Q 9 tt . •-• IMNI1( N:. Niitrett 11. cAitsTAIRs, ,-;• t o. oi:cen•splart; and le Alit ; ici! S( N. ;, South 114ilion,strert, ?, '" Of' (PS'cw, No.. 111, -tram! ; %kyle Afire; tibeia:o9 Latter:, &c. (past-paiii)-raust be addresseil. ti /7 _ CON,. : =Sv Ti cu , L e i w - e ' e d tr3, ; t 01' Lel ~Civ e d i~o;a{ , t I)4 V , ct c P, ti tkt!zlz.: ~~ - r ot t . • 4tt PE of tq h t . 4 tCtft tr ulav wi t gire n -I"Jg•tt f,i t a N Aat 411 04 1 4',1 rt tt. bat! t~.~ ; ~~ 11 71: k) ' ;,1 1 ,„ P .. tc..] • 4 1 t"' Y ' l cn