The Sun. — London, England, 1842-02-09 00:00:00

erica or tho m i g ht as it 5 tion of corn- nv dutl'• ii° - he Colonie'il ritish growth,. • terms of It belonged. , as a re el4lie - --.' s ubje -t .: s'" - : roper - • Ts ,!-; ;ure itself.e A il ~„,,, I he beg . 7, there e . .•• by inoperi/'.,J i n - con venien,, ce wo .„ 1 o f tifirlfil be 1 3 °0; • o e ' - atioAi eper , i uniple ti i ' , uld enable , il l f 7 F: 0 ; ' lit think 1. 0 0 ipon the g. "g round 's' , _,, ~ inconvenien .ch , principle `R.i n e colonial fell.f_f,,,il y a nd to whiff , 9 !nting the 7 - „, ant possession; ;,3 which he e, possession; „J mine principle. set, that certafi manufacture . .. that certoin !Yu'inerated,fi......rii' nt. ad eat r u; " c i n articl.a .'_, of British, Prue. he authority 4 or revenue' t he [t appeol i dar 1 most 0 . .01 taxation: of ;, not be mg e Gover n !. to i t ne cessa7 g .it yortat ionf: r ; t free. 0° 1 In .arliarae" t ' w eft lishment s N e il, )untry--( to enses of th e OW infarn m ird of Tranesii', great anonhiono , custom- a i t, .0 money, gi ve ihments to ld 0 It to e , e rsl • re of the g , ': - A 0 0, ,the 13 0 ": 0 0 La i n exeinlitloo ese exefolitlet, corre se n i Tii,, ~, te princlP s , l „ 1 ,- ain and en' o ', 0 t was th o t etoky. rate tax g 1 0 ' erica, e s P el t dio;'' red, that so . , fr y conside r t o' C ana da 100 to implis e a - United n' to t to the fact' 0 1. s o f grain jo it 3 likely t ° ,,d were deve l :lf r.) The t°; ii Tian produ e , b e. 1 we send' to Id not allow .: filoges inis en ,7o. i ci ng thein s 4io" , e United co sovisions ass e t o those of ,00 ti o ction safis • i farmer . p ioi ie first pr ° p o; n osed new ;di duties,,! log is! by Co sr fth state, id lea ustu,,,or • co of the L';4 ild be allo to o of the O ts . g ases' should be i o 10 'fission We e n i#l,:, ned to e°` ° .I.4r;' a lower roates,, Duty of Pio ld on pickle . Percwtr- iiiti' , r t be higi l 4tp roposed !sent rate'Af at. On e - 60 . d on 1101e iis ;co . G e ri P r l A isr er' l a*Diink rest frown,. 4;.. s t d. per il'.o !scar y to n s ' a ot• e Unite d lee of tea i l ll 'oo feet of r en v ii , from the ) ; whic h e . rs: / 1 e ti rboo t) b.. Lahe e c,,, n Upper or 6 to i- M ake " any reSIX4 oroolleld is, Lause ili V_ ure of 1 t t g i t e; co ntid Llso, he o F ed t o lea,,ditt )od at Psiii. n other 91 1 _, the whole ill ;ritish iot ar :7 . e . 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P rde r ' et7lo d I pre° 00, el wig .6) ~,,, re b; .fr irS e 'l in iffl i ct, jon . t g - oc. 0 tiol b itiLbc • ti i 9 be Iv ro i, „boo. to s, ,ngthbeq,,, eo i tick ea , ,, 1 the t° °Ur); 1 „ o re ,b 1 ne'• g ion , rake or 0 0 0 `'. blo ' a ril° lecit r o 008 th e Nif co fi At ,er o r „ r f t 0 Of s i> l° 3g foti li P jiii o t i/1 yea ✓ oec t ., , new 9° ;fir lir ' bad n e g 0 01 J; gfi tral e ban . , 0 0 in t "., 71 11.- .e 0 Shi ll - .11 148' ' th e no In dto reg at a 00 44 „r as°,. , ife,', eB i.s l 4, o : , t t • o ~ I, 6 0 . t e ~c uo u j ~1 .900 , ii ioil s " 'o{lll:tPthe,, f e . t o li l 8 , has tO ti c 4 3° 6 l ie*f i . s he e .l OS Ca P ;lt r i ' r e• r __ ocev -A i- f e , 10 e - , of nears 0 cogigey o fai s ' tun i t fes, oo9 ei 5 fi le the t ; g to 9 ta tetts . b he elite ore bY to 0 i oiti e a thi ° c ire fi.f,eo o ,l„ 1 'thy .with s' 17; 0 AI()IRNING SUN gamin g those s on s i milar vmptoma of dis agreement w hi c h h a d b een seen motions in that House. —t H hear, hear. ) t hat if net, h e begged to assure the Right ear, Hon: Gentleman, that ' net, humble assistance it was in his power to render should be given I‘to meet that o p pos i t i on.—( Cheers. ) bylre G. PALMER said that h e cou ld not a ll ow a su bj ect of d=ial imp ortance to the commerce of the country to pass t_out recording his opposition to it. He did not think " (flauld be doing his dui v it he did not oppose the measure; li'cltt*sted that, those Gentlemen who were inclined to bring it iiirWit'ltevroald consic:er well what they were aboot —( Hear. ) ese e Z not expect that any opposition from him would have N Ql e fteet un- question which had been brought forward last i ne - ',the Ron a .Gentlen an oppssite, and which was now in byr-••tlted. the Hon. Gentleman near him.—( Hear, hear. ) G .40 . 4 s'' RUSSELL said that lie must certainly defend the itt4del•aellent on this occasion from one of their own supportpr u s t , he ".Q!' introduction of the present Bill.—( Hear, hear.) a w ls/led to sa a few words on the subject of the introduction Wae• attar trod cor Y n into Canada from the United States. There aasfree trade in corn between those places, and it had been . objected to by an agricultural interest in Upper Canada, w.nnh, eeesidered it a grievance that corn and flour s h o uld. be a dmitted duty tr"' ee. Now, as respected Canada and this country, that t7-ediniesion of corn was of the greatest henefit.t T it .) There was now an agricultural and landed interest l Per Canaria, which could forward the same reasons against fl..,irat„ free trade which had been used at home.—( Loud cries rtl Rear, hear, hear ") If by any alteration e i s n lat t t b r e e law of 1 C was intended only to permit the L i - he to impose duties on the flour of the United g States, was e was afraid the conse uenees would he to foster a body talia who would be ready to give serious opposition to its pros trade and he did not aPeratditeybe.--t(liear.), He saw rio danger in encouraging le , , vieen North America Canada,. .a !lid : : a ta t k i tt whe:i-uicod,uilnd e h n is tin o •c p e cn t i h o e n :l b u e ty. very The fronthe e .r ir wa p s ro s , o i l s a io rg u e s: there were so many means of defeating t Fanadian flour from that of the United States. tending to foster roleiple of the 'tight Hoe. Gentleman seemed to him as diffic , iilt te t s o . si lN ist. o in .a g , u t i h sh e Whi c h he thought would undue monopoly m in o .u n r o i t o e u il s y , in au d C awnial which h — h a e ,i o io monopolyone, P e ald be very sorry see established. He hoped, t ier tahre, that that fur fieasure of the Part of mat whatever !r coheideration. 18 ith respect to the other part e s ive of the the measure, at least, would receive 111 ght Hon. Intentlt iht on , . Ge i ntle m r r e s , tn h e e sa w l a y s iti g i I l a v d hi t ( o .h fi t r i f i d e have been t le e a Gentleman had last year opposed the measure ud the l ' r eolucere b e hi s s (Lord John Russell's) Right lion. Flee le late president of the Board of Trade—( Hear, hear, hear) — with ~,t , r , ° longer entertained those objections which he had urge ', ( i so nmeh confidence and ability.—( Opposition cheers. ) ',m e t h CHARLES DOUGLAS denied that the party . to tPhe had the honour to belong had offered any uniform iiltTsittion to the principles developed that evening by his hfloh...tion. Friend, the Vice-P 1 esident of the Board of 'Trade. to a slipeoelhilaronet, in confirmation of this assertion,. referred teleeitnut eot Mr. Berries, in which that Right Hon. Gen had said that the Government night be assured of re giment,,leg the same assistance in their measures of Colonial im aser°;th,firroronwlith.e side of the House to which he belonged Sir . ROBERT EEL 511 Y inferenceet il i e . n t m i r a t e s o d uteoPui n;.:114 -"t b""ght ~ , 'night be the intentions of the Go the House not to draw !e . their U . , h regent ro the e ti e of commercial olicy, besought m oaght Yernment on V- the Present B n il' s f.—( Hear, hear.) He an opportunity Of spend their judgments until he should ,s have stating the views of her Majeste' Se le o such infe the gener 1 • ses ."Hear, hear.") a question.--(Cries ut . reli es, ; s Fawn . Stated pub;iel y l ast : ' l t _ at piesent, could he just. He had she.o4...r.;Yetaphpeoivrta.s pHreeparheadd t torielle g a i 1 . se_ zral questions of year,co,unthaet .alt i hough . h f e ro d ut issented entirely on the late Govern- P To le t j be iresent measure his juslOtten brought forward first, on the ground of absolute le u e nderstoo l d that the measure tab tie' and secomlly, on the ground of the general policy appli tit:Totl oortur :West Intlia colonies. No restriction existed asto t ithe rest dlletions t e't 'trol l of articles into our East India possessions, white ts i nto aor lietioris were still suffered to remain en the imports India colonies. • We admitted East . India pr . te n , 0 _ e ehrapete in our markets with West - India produ . s : ow , .. 1 the ground of justice; then the West Italia colonies tsst4st.,o,be placed on the same footing, in that respect, as our 4. reference to any statedTla lit?stessfolls•—( Hear, hear. ) It had been dist," .), vrith oot "tt this measure ought to pass on the gioutids ut justioi other measures, and oil those grounds atieereetpleported it If the Right lion. Gentleman had ,... pe i r t - Peeu ss with his measure, he would. have received his (sit H. meth,ortitsen cordial suppor t. What could h e more 1 t t than that he should now withdraw his suppor_ tut b ei e ) Bill, althoegh he had supported it last year? fe et a qfzed the House not to draw any inference from that 14 ),4 t ° the general commercial policy of the Governm e h nt t With respect dtally acquiesced in this measure last year ; • liewti the future intentions of the Government, he Were ti lt e , House would draw no inferences as to what they essiy 0 e e 1 .7 tO be from that acquiescence. He would take an toe s oPe,Ptanity of stets% to the House what were the intim shonhi. the Government with regard to those questions. He rules i' tn• Morrow, state those intentions with respect to one knit ) , ion,P(httant question and he would take an early oppor othit„ 1. stating what those intentions were with regard to ha% lir" lthpertant subjects, when he was afraid it was pry , - ttlibo4 at the harmony at present existing would be ch liehac-(lie•ar, hear. ) He thought the Nobie Lord would view s • !rePeaion to taunt them With the adoption of all the Pellet. i?„_ t he late Government on questions of commercial per use t i l u en he (Sir Robert Peel) should lay before the Ne t t, e Ineasnres by which the present Government -pro tieri„' C'tticate the country from the grave financial difficul tT. ws,hteh we-were involved. the Seity,°ThAßT WORTLEY wished to call the attention of Wheat imported t he lit r it i ,,, er eLn_ent to the present state of the corn trade between Into i'.,t otates and our Canadian colonies. 01141.thted States was subject to a duty while . the' which of 2.5 cents. a r i t tfitit y was pm as equal to a . to corn was permitted be i ates into Canada. Moreover, 'led St at upon the importation of wheat from the duty,'NOW l i i why we should enable the ltl P? e , r ted into this country from Canada at a low . rate ne ans , e courd not see duty was Ltfl.be 'tats et . the United States to send wheat into Canada it l duty, while, at the same time, a high the stii ( l t h its e importation' into the United States; atsd he the ee se ' ' ever there ' fair case for reciprocal restrictions, Nit -ye of the corn wast a bet ween Canada and the United thefnet Presented one trade ( d l e lear hear.) He did not recommend the iii?sition of duty for the sake of duty, but for the pu.r etb,tit Was to he dime at all, of preventing indirect and il °l'll in 7 4 - „ e , , Which existed simply and solely by means of our On te'Rene and neglect. thee t. " r otion of the Right Hon. Gentleman, the Chairman 2 2d inPtirted progress, and obtained leave to sit again on the t, , hd the House resumed. e.ftlr. er . RAILWAYS. w r e tee t E. GLADSTONE, pursuant to notice, moyed for :he Ri o , l l l s , ri ng in a l3ill for the better regulation of Railwa l y a s si li e t tP, te",t,„,lhintl• Gentleman said that the exper s ienc of had shown Itiet!to conLstainttdeing some lamentable subject that the administra ;Z af the tomraiciglett e to one 'w h h is i i c o h n tiohisstastujg exceptions, d n been referred C O lic e s lhet, t:::tja,tlwaYs had upon the whole continued to With the ces to be given to engine -drivers, he thought %gilt t , b . ,as also of opinion that no provision in that r . esp t ec e t thenttiteti,aieTced into the Bill. Certainly, that %e t as _h e (41 g/lt t h es Board of Trade had arrived a.. p on eY should look to the action of public opinion I: isst Pers ons ilsi s e r enity °e "PYing that station, as the real and l'itits nn this score. Of course it would t i tt w re„ e4 t ;t k i l o i e n tivi n Pe o n to Parliament to enlarge the. the art of the Government. In . the ine tt e e,lnh tae fitYs a r eport p would be laid on the table of the itf e „ - "e last le g all account of the accidents on railways duts : e ithe r MilliWir;* By that report it would be seen that ac Ile tViliseonankil "eurred were by no means traced . le not au ght tbr the° that it was bett,r to l a i r e fit, mpetence on the . part of the engineers. w as or te °dace any no would be of opinion lay on te r ' e ettl. tst year whtch he did not think neces ja'rY to P'evisons4nlew provision in this respect. That, then, found •••e tabl e e tno,ss iinpaateaeot the ewers " 11 t° e ' ll e eeniat ned several clauses which wou T he Bill which he asked leave ld h t e o P r ovid e prop sod to Ise re - thre e oe . *reuses were those which . Government —( Hear ) i n . °Pened 'eelent r . of new railways before they ss a if th e • Ovin thine hspection all getaent• If the hear. e . _ 'ana, Y showd Board power to postpone the open , i k necessary —( Hear, he Corn- Pael li4 not saal,itattwaYs had been wrong, .his Hon. Friend site el, bu t e wreaked all his indignation on t eerved sorre o . pritti e t lHea s r ( h u e l d have re. f it for the Govern er the s had gene ar, and l aughter) —for certainly railwa m yeahes 4111t..he en n e d r i n ti nt o ent• The safety , Got, raflY shown a disposition to yield to the wie d the lee of nof the soil over which it passed, an 6 $ 0 .,,, ( orne C e • of a railsee!y much depended .41( d ' t netri to traduce ropames had 'l them to run passen e f o soon.' Por this reason, the Board of Trade the ° l' power to pow ers think it ett Plene the opening railways when . 14 1 ott); ebthut it was evident on the o v l l l t t - l' " elS ai . Y. The Board also asked for enlarged .l d _ :age returns of the At present they could of either of fe4ttllthight oce4,l7‘wd glee',se Board desired to°llll ehnht that instances fate gross laia t n h a e g re e - Turrence of dents to life or those . injuriesinto . all cases !so orctihderrit•—alear, hear. "e power )'I he Board also asked 4 power to inquire etYs, , gates to be erected across roads opening into rad .e,,, .Or 1 :4 4 7 .1, cases, had not the gatesbehith_erto reffict.e.d across railways, t to prevent acci ,lte :ep ic s ' 40 , that gat e " f°l ; mt Ot is 0 ,,,, t . _ s opening rom . f s a a rm t s le o a n to railways should n eeesso next to appoint arbiters to settle disputes when .6 i jip nint ry to carry a road under or over a railway, shd 0,,111e1 t w 41,1 u mpire, thus putting an end to those disputes .. ,o, e, 1,0 er e th some cases carried cm to the injury of the public , tia7_,,, the prove me I 7 Ut 1,4 i . for branch railways , . and restricting the "' , efor e e e e ngine s be n •s, te parties which had been allowed t• us • -*mien e.' ' n . a - ' Otherwise he proposed ~ 1 glv e R ail ee snowed its danger. . a ther ways to '' V i e fl e t e -a ; " le thern to execute work, an- in eath as to r i , Vb i?' C ompanies powers which they did not possess, -ere I w hiti ng w ' be too steep or to widen em• I ,t 9 R ad land, when it was necessary for them . to slope ~., ~, tents , w ere found to ee'ea n re , e•is tnat were too narrow. The Right Hon. Gentle fe:lleft P e hided b c6lll,leinlatioyn M or i 'n for leave to bring in a Bill far the ade lfle ° d 4e 8111THORP Railways.s glad the lion. Gentleman had sliettiiir,-- the course which he formerly had the pleasure of sug saetat.:l,and that it was placed in such able hands. He was ' S.y 3 - `hy hut one motive in that opposition which he had al : ll4tide . § l °,ell to the introduction of railway schemes, and if liaeoYer" increased, as they had done latterly, he could ' it5:444134d that his Honourable Friend had in this w " a Rill for the annihilation of railways. thee% -el Hon. Gentleman told theret o with regard to the its res which he proposed for the consideration of the th s ,„et that great discretionary powers were to be given to enitt,':),overriment, it appeared to him that little public good I N o"p•tlsult from it in regard to the lamentable accidents and Gesete which had of late occurred ; and if the Honourable ltiesinvniall should not do so, he would take the liberty of . th o . f . for a return of those accidents, and of the opinions of s., ii„ Juries on the various cases. He thought, too, that suffi thaitt.had fallen from the public Press on this subjec . t. and he e ))01; t 7 t1 in particular to one Paper. from which he differed in , 4411e.ial Matters -4e alluded to The Sun, the comments of .. she' }'poem the unfortunate accidents which occurred, were of eider, s gittary kind, and whose efforts in urging that some greaC r frleiasnre should be adopted to prevent them, conferred Akteure " P i e ts on itself. riti tbought flint most of those accidents e s teet ot S e "‘ irnm want of due prenaution on the part of the Di ,.., f or . s i and he would be glad that a measure was brought th o r.f . a. , :d for settling a greater responsibility on them. He I ,, as ught it was necessary that such a course of inspection as t hil: eatt eed should be adopted, not only with regard to new r ni ,,!•Ys, but regarding all railways. lie thought that, impos e,',',.,'!nere Oeodand, even of 1,0001.. was not a sufficient re }e'Pene to the relatives of the sufferers. The Direetors of iti°g,... 'themes should be compelled te, support the families o' .IVhe were killed lie was also of opinion that the losses ss: . teili t ,, ine ll i4v the proprietor s of stage-coaches should be made a ~. ,14 Pr' emesideretion by her Majesty's Miristers. , e s , a,,,_ ''' ' that railroade Wen) a proper subject of taxation ; , 'th .. 14 ore a revenue to the Government, and would -se • eY Wo u i,, • ~ 1 10 t at th , e boa . -4 the people. lie would give every oppo '' tritsio,a Ztthe Bill of the Rig:: .t -ion. Gentleman, ' e express his opinion - , thatP. WAKLEY said he felt tiounu - -tte would not 4 4 • ~...the Bill of the Right Hon. Gentleman oppoe... He was ) 4 , carry the object he intended to effect by it. ~,„„__ .4,,- iitpinion that a far more stringent 'Leasure war trPt t "'"/ to s, t 'ar, hear, from Col. Sibthorp)—but he was POMPPOPt j, t e a that he feared the influence of railroad proprietors Fes r f g .1, eat in the House for any such Bill to pees into a paw. ~ ,?e,, allowed, however, that when three or four Lords heel lost f i", lives, or two or three Members of the Government /eel ° 1 : theirs, the . House would be dispersed to synipathise with • ine• ut until the lives of some Noblemen were saerilieed, be 1 44 •' ' ' no haps the House would pass such a law as the circuits atances of the case required.—(Laughter.) The Right Hon. t Gentleman opposite had his life placed in jeopardy, by an accident on the Brighton Railway, and he would perhaps give his opinion on the subject. Many eases of accident had come under his notice, and from all that he could collect by the tes timony of competent witnesses, he was bound to state that he considered railroad travell ng was the safest that could be adopted. He entertained no .doubt whatever upon the sub ject, not the slightest. But the Bill which the Right Hon. Gentleman had introduced was another Bill brought forward from the back-shop of the Whig store. They had got four them already, and for his part, he wished the Government would take the whole batch, and bring them down to the House, ticketing them " Whig Bills." The measures of the Government were complainedef, and what was their answer? " Oh, we have found the Bill in our office." It was a legacy — Heaven protect. him from such legacies.—(Laughter.) The Government found a measure in an office, and they, therefore, thought they were bound to use it. That was the case with regard to the great and all important question of factory slavery. Then there was the Poor-law, which was not to be brought on until after Easter, although the Commission ex pired in July. He did not like such tactics. Again, they had a Bill with regard to the Customs in the West Indies ; and there was no end to the compliments which the Right Hon. Gentleman who introduced it paid to the late President of the Board of Trade. He ,Mr. Wakley) had never heard these compliments paid t.o the Right Hon. Gentleman before.— ( Laughter.) It was astonishing to see how Hon. Gentle men who had obtained the victory could afford to be compli mentary. Now, the present Bill was very inefficient last year, and it was almost as inefficient in its present state. They would never have an efficient measure until they had applied stringent principles to railway proprietors and railway directors. It hap pened that he ( Mr. W. ) had been travelling on the Great Western railway, within a few hours after the accident had taken place at Sonnine-hill. It was useless for him to attempt to describe the distressing, painful, and agonising character of the scene. But it was known to every one on the spot, as well as to every one connected with the railway, that if proper precautions had been taken such an accident could never have occurred. Dur ing the darkness of the night, there had bean no watchman stationed at the cutting of Sonning-hill ; and it appeared that the policemen who was on duty had not to attend until the six o'clock train from London had arrived. But there was no po licemen to watch the arrival of the luggage train to which the melancholy accident had occurred. Was that a system that could be sanctioned?—(Hear, hear.) It was quite true that railways were most satisfactory, and conducive to the interests of the public as well as to their happiness, but they should be properly regulated; and he (Mr. Wakley) believed that the proprietors of railways, or those persons who were inte rested in that way in them, should not be the sole regula tors of them.—( Hear, hear.) There should be a power above them, and in his opinion that power should be vested in the Gorernment,—(Hear, hear.) He wished to refer to the facts connected with the accidents which lately occurred on the London and Birminghaiw Railway, although those state ments were now probably irregular or premature ; he would therefore refrain from adverting to them until the reading of the Bill ; however, he could not but say that the proprietors were not the proper or the best persons to regulate railways in this country. Mr. GLADSTONE said the Hon. Gentleman had invited an interruption ; the report of the officer of the railway de partment would he on the table in a few days, and although he (Mr. Gladstone) did not wish to stop a discussion ; he thought it desirable that the House should be in possession of all the facts before statements were grade.—(Hear). Mr. WAKLEY only made those statements because he saw the Chairman of the Railway Committee present, but he would then refrain from any further statement as to the matter. Mr. C. RUSSELL said that an allusion had been made to the accidents which occurred mithe Great Western Railway; he could not refrain from making a few observations respecting hem. No person more deeply deplored that accident than he did. ( Hear, hear.) He did everything in his power to console and compensate the unfortunate indivi,luals who had suffered by it. ( Hear, hear.) It was his uuty to attend the inquest which had been held upon them, and it was also his duty to view the line of railway upon which the accidents had occurred. He slid so most attentively, because he was exceedingly anxious to ascertain whether blame coned be attached t.o any particular officer, or to the Company, and he (Mr. Russell) was proud to be able, solemnly mid seriously, to deel re that he believed that unfortunate occurrence was as much the visitation of God's providence as it was the result of accident.—( Fleer, hear.) How was it possible there could be watchmen all through, irons one end to another of a line which extended to a distance of a hundred and eighteen miles ? He had examined the lire of railway, and that particular place where the accident had oc curred was much better circumstanced than any other part of it. Ihe Hon. Gentleman concluded by stating he would refrain trout making further observation with reference to the matter until such time as the Bill was introduced. Mr. EW ART observed that the proprietors were interested for the safety of those who travelled on their railways, as much as the Government or any other persons could be. The old system of railways was, in his opinion, the safest. However, he hoped that the superintendence would be more efficacious in future; and it was extremely aatisfac:ory to find that in pro portion as the superintendence was increased, the number of accidents were diminished.—( Hear.) If an accident hap pened to a person travelling by railway, or by coach, and that he survived it, he had a good action for the injury he sustained against Vie proprietors of the railway or conveyance in which the acci4ent had happened, so that the railway pro prietors were -most interested for the safety of the passengers. It appeared, therefore, that if the person suffering from a railway accident survived the effects of that. accident, he could recover compensation from the railway proprietors ; but if he died, his relatives had no remedy at all. It was true they might punish the Company; but they could not compensate the sufferer. It struck him that such a state of law wasanomalous, and required correction. He was sure that accidents had di minished, as the experience of railway directors had increased. He gave his cordial support to the present measure, which, while it exercised a judicious control over the management of railways, did not improperly interfere with the directors of these undertakings. Mr. HARDY approved of the Bill as far as it went, but thought it did not go far enough for the security of the public. The principal accidents which had happened showed what mea sures might be adopted for the prevention of accidents in future. He happened to be a passenger by the Brighton Railway when the accident occurred on that line. On that occasion two engiries had been used for the train. One of them was more powerful than the other, and he felt convinced that the second engine had driven the first off the rails, and thus caused the accident. Of the whole of that long train only three of the carriages had been injured, and those were the carriages nearest the engine. On the Great Western Railway the accident had happened through the engine being stopped by a slip of land, and thus becoming itself an impediment; in both cases it was only the carriages nearest the engine which had suffered. Ile hoped, therefore, that some provision would be introduced in the Bill to prevent carriages being placed near to the engine, and he was convineed in that manner the fatal consequences of similar accidents might be prevented. Sir R. PEEL thought that if effectual precaution could he taken for the prevention of accidents by legislative enact ments, the Legislature would be fully justified in interfering, and he felt perfectly certain thet, in such a case, no influence of any railway proprietor with that House could stand against the sense of the nation. He doubted if all the railway pro prietors of the kingdom united could prevent the adoption by Parliament of effectual measures for the regulation of railways, if such could be the case. But what he deprecated was the carrying tits interference of Parliament beyond its proper limits. He considered it injudicious for, Parliament to undertake too minute an interference with the regulations of railways, and any attempt to do so would, he considered, be greatly injurious. Whenever an accident occurredi the number of passengers on a railway were diminished, and they adopted some other mode of conveyance. But before a gentleman came to a conclusive opinion on the details of such a provision, he ought to read the evidence that had been laid before the Committee last year. He would then see that if the Government were to suggest a certain interval between an engine and the carriages, the con sequence would be an increase rather than a diminution of ac cidents ; for Railway Companies, feeling their responsibility much lessened, would shelter themselves from the indignation of the public, by saying that these regulations had been forced upon them against their remonstrances by the Government, which ought tobear toe blame. But as to the silk :1y of cross ings, and the establishments of gates, and such things, the Go vernment could do something; but as to determining the num ber of watchmen that should be employed, and that the trains should net travel beyond a certain rate of speed, it would be utterly impossible for the Government to,interfere with pro priety. This could only be done by those who had acquired that nice tact, and minute exper ence, that resulted from con stant personal application to the practical study of these ques tions ; and any interference of the Government in those de partments, so farfrom answering their object would defeat it. Mr. LABOUCHERE said the Bill of the Right Hon. Gen tleman differed in some respects from that introduced by him last year. for his was more stringent. and gave more direct powers to the Board of Trade. His Bill was referred to a Se lect Committee, and the result of the investigation was, that he lost a great deal of the confidence he first had in that measure. He was now convinced that the safest course for the Govern ment was, to let the undivided responsibility of the manage ment of the railways rest en the directors and officers ; and, therefore, he thought the Right Hon. Gentleman had exer cised a sound discretion in excluding some clauses which he (Mr. Labouchere) had introduced. This subject was by no means so , imple as Gentlemen might think at first ; the more the examined it, the more they would see the difficulty of dealing with some questions that at first seemed very easy. He was sure that the safer way for the Government would be to interfi re too little, rather than too much, with the railway directors. As their knowledge increased they might interfere farther • but, at present, he thought the Right Hon. Gentle man had exercised a sound discretion in giving the Board of Trade the power of making suggestions, leaving it to the Rail way Companies to refuse them at their pleasure. Leave was then given to bring in the Bill. DISTRESS IN PAISLEY. Mr. WALLACE said that in fsiog to bring forward the motion of which he had given notice relative to the distress in Paisley, he felt it due to the House to he as brief as pos sible. It was so well known to Hon. Members that distress did prevail that the subject required no aid from him to convince them that it was of a very broad nature, and ex tended both far and wide ; but he believed that that House and the country did not know the extent of privation and suffering to which the people of Paisley and the neighbour hood were subjected. So far as he knew, and he believed he expressed the feelings of the whole of the inhabitants of that district, they were all fully grateful for the sympathy and aid which had been shown towards them by the people of this country, from the Queen on her throne down to the very lowest in the realm, who had aid and sympathy to offer. Their con duct, Le believed, had been most exemplary, and the greater their distress and suffering, the more exemplary did it become. Ihe community of which he spoke had long been known for visitations similar to those to which he now referred; the artisans were chiefly occupied in supplying fancy articles for the markets of London and other large towns, and any falling off in trade was felt directly by them. At this moment her Majesty's Govern ment must be aware that there were 17,500 persons in Paisley and the neighbourhood, who were reputed as receiving parish assistance ; 15,000 of these belonged to the town of Paisley alone. Beside. this there were 1,000 weavers, and some two or three hundred labourers who received partial relief. The amount that weavers could now earn slid not exceed 4s. a-week —rather less than more—for working fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen hours a-day. Those who had attended to gaol statis tics, and to the feeding of the inmates in gaols, must have learnt that considerably more than double that amount was required to ' maintain the inmates in health and strength. And when it was considered that the people of Paisley had no firing, little or no cloth,ng, and no bedding, they would be able to form a com parison between the relative positions of the honest inhabitants of Paisley and the inmates of gaols. He blamed no one--he did say that the distress had reached to such an extent as hid led him to the consideration that it was his bounden duty tomao the statement which he would now briefly lay before the House. As to an inquiry, he believed that the proper, the only way of conducting it, would be to send one or two parties to the spot, who should institute an inquiry and make a report, in the first place to the Government, and then, if it was at all customary, to this House. It would be perceived, therefore, when he headed in his motion, that it was for the institution of an in -1 (pry. lie could see no good in a Coma ittee of this House; the time that would be occupied in the inquiry would either i ? ,a4 e hopes in which th e people would be disappointed, or 1 ;a , li ve thel y t? think th a t t h ey were entirely neglected. He i was the 1:1:tore inciptpd to large this i nqu i ry on the Government wee the reply Of tie Noble Lord npposite relative to the subject of einknit ion. The teopl s,, a s out to be o bad been led to lielieve th a t a l arge field : he blamed l upbodY fOr t hip .' the Nob ab le Lord had m peued to them ada a fair a n d di st i nct statement, still : the disappointment of the people was not the less severe on tha LONDON, WEDNESDAY, account. Of those who were suffering from destitution, thougk vast numbers came forward, yet there were very many who did not do so. For these, inquiry was necessary. and stated that a partial inquiry instituted by some benevolent individuals, had produced such instances of distress, that the party carrying it on were reduced to a sta t e o f per f ec t di sgust an d hope l essness , which he could not describe. He perceived that a gift of Go vernment stores hzd been made to the destitute weavers in Spitelfields, and he hoped that his own distressed countrymen would be thought deserving of a similar gift, either of corn taken out of bond,free of duty, or provisions from the Government stores. The distress in the neighbourhood of Paisley was increasing. and that greatly diminished th e p rospec t o f emp l oyment to th e people in the town. The distress was on the increase in Ayr, Renfrew, and the adjoining counties. It happened that many of those unfortunate people had work given for which their looms were not suited, and vast numbers of them went out on the roads to break stones, or undertook other heavy out-door work. At first their hands were blistered, but after a while they got hard, and would in time become unfit for the fine work in which they would be employed in their own trade whenever it revived. He had now done, and should only offer his humble recommendation that two or three active, sensible Gentlemen out of that House—without the expense of a well paid Com mission—should be sent down to Paisley to ascertain the actual condition of the people, and the extent of the distress. If that inquiry was refused to him, he hoped at least that her Majesty's Ministers would be prepared to bring forward some measure to relieve the distress and destitution, which was greater than he had known, even in the misery which had afflicted the people from time to time in the last ttwenty. five yearr.—( Hear.) He concluded with moving an address— .' Praying her Majesty will be graciously pleased to command that an immediate and diligent inquiry be made into the natnre and extent of the misery and destitution under which the inha• bitants of Paisley and other towt.e in Renfrewshire have beets suffering for so long a period, and are still enduring; and fur ther, that her Majesty will be graciously pleased to command tkat the said inquiry be prosecuted vigorously, so that the results may be laid, as soon as possible, before this House, with a view' to its providing, with all speed, against the longer continuance of the intolerable distress ; as also against, the evident and im minent danger of disease and pestilence following in its usual course, thereby causing more numerous deaths from cold and hunger and actual starvation than hitherto, aswell as increasing the ruinous tendencies of these appalling evils on the moral character of all who are directly affected by tkem, or who live within the range of their influence." Sir J. GRAHAM sail, that he should begin the observa tions he intended to address to the House, by saying that the Hon. Gentleman, who had just set down, was entitled to great praise for the temperate and judicious manner in which he hail introduced the subject of which he had given notice to the House.—( Hear, hear, hear.) He must confess that the num ber of persons to be relieved in Paisley, and the surrounding districts, was very great, amounting to 17,000 persons, and in such circumstances it seemed hardly possible the distress could be relieved. But they ought to be very careful not to aggra vate the distress, by the excitement of expectations which could be raised only to he disappointed.—( Hear, hear.) Ae felt it to be the duty of Government to proceed with the utmost caution on the subject. If there were any disputes as to mat ters of fact, it might be necessary to institute are inquiry ; but ice 11. d admitted that the extent of distress was great, sod he also admitted the exemplary patience and fortitude with which it was endured.-4 Hear.) All the rights of property were pre served, the law had not been violated, and the patient. endurance of the sufferers had been of the most exemplary character.— ( Hear, hear.) In such circumstances it would be the height of imprudence to take any step to excite hopes which would en.] in disappointment. He must say that the appointment of two Commissioners, specially directed to ascertain the fact of dis tress, would be worse than useless, if the House were not pre pared to point out the means of relief. If the Hon. Gentle man only intended that a searching inquiry should be instituted into the causes of distress, he (Sir J. Graham) should say that the inquiry by a Commission was not the best mode of ascer taining theta. He could well understand that there were many special circumstances occasioning the distress in Paisley. But he doubted whether so large a community, a great part of which subsisted on wages derived from labour, was affected by the causes which had been indicated by the Hon. Gentleman. The Hon. Gentleman wished that those special circumstances should be strictly investigated. Now, he (Sir J. Graham) did not think that the best mode of instituting the inquiry, would be by a Commission. He should say that by far the best course would be to bring the subject before a Committee of that House, who might examine a few competent witnesses by • whom the facts would be cleaily established, and the House would thus be put in possession of the necessary in formation. But he ( Sir James Graham) was obliged to add that even if the Hon. Member had pursued that more pru dent course, he should still feel it his duty to oppose him. With regard to the appointment of a Commission, he should say that lie thought such a step would give rise to a most unfortunate understanding, and would lead to expectations hich he could not hold out the least hope of realising. Under those circumstances, it would be his duty to give his vote against the Hon. Gentleman if he should be induced to press his motion to a division--a course, which he hoped the Hon Member would not pursue. It should be known that the Government had already received information on the subject from accredited sources. There was a Sheriffs' substi tute resident in every county in Scotland, whose duty it was to make constant inquiries into the condition of the population, and to repert to the Government the facts which be might have collected. They had, therefore, sufficient means of obtainitg information on the spot ; and, under those circumstances, and for the reasons already given, he felt it his duty to oppose the motion before the House. Mr. HASTIE was sorry to find that the Right Hon Ba ronet had not uttered a word which could give the slightest hope of relief to the distressed inhabitants of Paisley. It had been truly stb.ted that there were now in that town 17,000 inhabi tants, out of a population of 65,000. depending entirely on public charity for the means of subsistence. The Committee of Relief had now but 1.8001. in their hands, which woul d only give three weeks' sustenance to the unhappy sufferers, and it was impossible to expect that charitable contributions would be continued.—( Hear, hear.) Unless, therefore, some relief were afforded by the Government, he looked with fear and trembling to the result. ( Hear. ) Mr. SMITH O'BRIEN had to-night presented a petition, praying that the Government might assist the people of Paisley. He believed that no case so strong as that of Paisley had been made for such aid, lie held in hilhand a petition presented ten months ago—that petition was signed by no less than 3,000 persons, praying that such aid should be given by Government to the suffering classes, and for most part of that time the distressed persons had been supported by contributions paid by the public, but now it could not be sufficient for that purpose. The Noble Lord the Secre tiry for the Colonies must have seen from the Australian papers that the resources of that colony could not be adequately deve loped for want of a sufficient number of hands, and that a great demand for labour existed there. Some measure ought therefore to be adopted, by which the distressed labourers might be taken to these colonies; and the petition points out this mode of relieving the distress. Whether the funds should be raised by a loan on the security of the land for guarantee he could not say ; for he did not know from what sources the ne cessary funds could be derived for such an object ; but he thought that a great country like this, which, when a war was to be carried on, fiend no difficulty in raising money for their largest operations, ought not thus to suffer a large portion of its most industrious and valuable population to continue in dis tress. He had head objections raised the other night to a measure of emigration at the public expense; on account of the large voluntary emigration at present going on, but such objection did not apply to the emigration of the distressed for the emigration then spoken of was, that of per sons who left the country with more or less capital, and was not at all like this case. He felt that that was an improper time for entering at large into the question of emigaation. but he though , he should not do justice to the interests of those who placed such interests in his hands, if he had not stated his impressions on the subject. Mr. WAKLEY said that it was impossible to hear the state ments made by Hon. Gentlemen without a feeling of great commiseration. At the same time if they applied the remedy proposed in the present case, it would be impossible to gu rd against other place- similarly Circumstanced making a similar application. His Hon. Friend had ce , tainly brought forward his case in a very temperate speech, atm in a manner calcu lated to obtain for him the attention not only of the House, but of the country at large. The facts stated by his Hon. Friend were not disputed. The Government had no doubt whatever about them. But the Hon. Gentleman failed to apply any re medy. What was the use of sending a Special Commission to inquire into facts, when every statement made by his Honourable Friend respecting those facts was admitted to be, if anything, under the truth ? The proposal made by the Honourable Gentleman who had just sit down was a feasible one, but it would take much time to bring it into operation. His (Mr. Wakley's) chief object in rising was to ask what was the nature of the Poor-law in Scotland? He wanted to know how it was that the property of Scotland, like that of England, was not applied to the relief of the poor? The Lord-Advocate was present, and he (Mr. Wakley) then asked, was there a Poor-law in Scotland? He understood there was, but he should like to know how it was carried into effect, because it was of no use for Scotch gentlemen to make applications to that House, and appeal to its sympathy, if they neglected their duties in their own country. I;there was not a Poor-law in Scotland, then he (Mr. Wakley) called on the Government to apply itself to the subject at once, and see that the people of Scotland were provided with an efficient and effectual Poor-law, which should give them instantaneous re lief. That cou'd be done in the course of a week. Its one week he (Mr. - Wakley) would undertake to have a Poor-law provided for that country, if he had a majority of ninety in that House. He understood that there was something bearing the semblance of a Poot law in Scotland, but that there were no poor-houses. He c, uld scarcely understand how a Poor-law could be brought into operation without poor-houses, not that he had any de sire to see poor-houses established in Scotland similar to those existing in England.—(A laugh.) But he thought that, con sidering the lamentable distress which existed In that quarter, it Would be a satisfaction to the House and to the country to know precisely and distinctly what was the nature of the Poor law in Scotland; that if sufficient fur that purpose it might appliedbe m i forht he ado the rel pte o d. f the sufferers, and ii not, some speedy remedy Mr. YORKE said it struck him that if they were to ap. point a Commission for Paisley, upon the sufferings of those in habitants, he was somewhat competent to speak, having wit nessed for himself their appalling distress ; it struck him that if they were to have a Commission for that town, it would be merely a precursor to Commissions in almost every tuwn in the kingdom, to such an appalling extent did manufacturing stagnation prevail. At the time when he was in Paisley, there were upwards of 14,000 persons in a:state of absolute destitution, and but for what might be called the extraneous assistance ren dered to the town, those 14,000 persons must one by one have died of starvation ; they were still subsisting upon this gratui tous and accidental relief. On the whole, his hope for Paisley was that which he entertained for the country at targe,the hope that taxes would b" taken off the staple commodity of human existence, and that there would be a thorough recision of those restrictive impositions which operated moot wickedly against the bowels of the people.--( Hear, hear. ) Sir VALENTINE BLAKE spoke on the dreadful distress which he lamented to say prevailed in every part of the king dom, urging the necessity of some provisionary remedy, that should to some extent ; at least, furnish some amelioration of it. He begged to remind the House that simi lar periods of depression had occurred in other countries ; and in one instance recorded in history, the consequence was ruin and decay, and every evil incident to a nation. ( The Hon. Member proceeded to read portions from two histotical writers, mitt considerable laughter from both sides of the House. ) Trade was departing from Nottingham and the other towns in England, which were becoming as distressed as those of Scot land and Ireland. A German manufacturer could bring over goods of the same kind and quality as those manufactured at. Nottingham, and sell them in that town at a price 50 per cent. lower than they could be manufactured there. I f the Members of that House did not take steps to arrest the progress of the distress they would be placed in the same condition as those people.— ( A laugh.) It might seem to be very laughable, but if they did nothing to relieve the people, the Poor-laws would make the latter their masters, and there would be an end to their ren t s . The Hon, Uatonet then adverted to the statutes pro hibiting the introduction of cattle, corn, and other articles of provisions into Ireland.—(" Question, question," from the opposite benches.) Sir Valentine Blake apologised to the House for intruding upon it so long, and thanked Hon. Gen tlemen for the courtesy with which he had. been heard, but he would not farther trespass on the Gentlemen behind him— ( L a; ;gliter)—and he hoped he would yet leave them behind him.--( Cod and long ehe(rs. ) Sir R. PEEL—Feeling, as he did, the utmost sympathy for the sufferings. which had' been described, and &tying the Hon. Member who had just sat down the utmost credit for the manner in which he brought forward his motion, he (Sir R. Peel) hoped he would not press it farther at present. —( Hear, hear.) At the same time, he (Sir R. Peel) expressed his ut most sympathy for the sufferers, and admired the exemplary patience with which those sufferings had been endured. He could not but admire the local exertions which had been made for their relief, and the immense sacrifice of time and money which had been made for that purpose. As to the proposal of emigration, he would ask what would be the consequence of sending down two Commissioners tteinquire whether the distress of Paisley could be relieved by emigra tion? The Hon. Gentleman said, that from the nature of the occupation of the weavers their hands were unfit even in their own country to turn to other kinds of work, and if that were the case was it likely that in any distant country, where a man must earn his bread by the severest labome these men could be otherwise than plunged in the greatest distress? Consider, also, the position of the colonies, and then you wilt see that we have no right to cast these encunibraneesoo them by sending out persons entirely useless. The: eedeeivence of the immediate transfer of thole - burthene which' evesdught to hear would be that those whom we might send out would be exposed to the most dreadful sufferings, for it could not be 'ex pected that the settlers would support them. The people of Paisley were entitled to our stron gest . sympat h y, b ut ver y f e w of them were fit for emigration. A young man, of twenty or thirty, whose hands were not yet form e d b y long habitude to a particular kind of work, might, i n the course of a little time, learn to earn his bread in Austr a li a or i n Canada; b ut a man of fifty or sixty years of age and a family o f ten children could never be expected to acquire those new habits, and in einigratig he would go to end his days in the utmost misery ; in shert, unless those who sent them out undertook to support them, their fate must be Absolute starvation. Now there •was a great risk, ,if the House interfered at all: first, that these persons who had entitled themselVes to the utmost credit by their exertions would relax those exertions, in the delusive hope that the Le gislature would do something; and th e su ff er i ng pe o ple of Paisley, instead of turning their attention to other modes of occupation for the future, would look to the Legislature for re lief, which it could not give. Anything that the House could attempt would only be postponing th e ev il d ay, to see th e dis tress aggravved hereafter. He hop e d , t h ere f ore, th e H on . Gentleman would not press his moti on , an d t h us give Hon. Members the pain of voting against his preposition. Sir VALENTINE BLAKE then 'rose to reply, amidst cries of " Order," and he ultimately gave way to Mr.' WALL Ss CE, who stated, in explanation, that the un happy people whose eau: e he advocated had thought that Go vernment had prepared some scheme of emigration for them ; but the reply given by the Noble Lord the other night had effec tually dispelled any hopes on that subject which they might have entertained. He was not aware when he put his notice on the paper, that the Government had stepped forward out of its usual course, and supplied funds in the shape of clothes, to tee unfortunate people of Spitalfields. There was a part of his motion, which he now abstained from alluding to, for the pre cise reason which had been suggested by theilight Honourable Baronet opposite, as a proper reason, for net dividing- the House. He believed the best medical then admitted, that when pestilence was the consequence of famine and 'destitution, it seldom accompanied, but generally followed them. He begged to say to the Right Hon. Gentlemen, opposite and his colleagues, that. as they had the best information from the highest autho rities on the subject, he (Mr. Wallace) had decided before the Right Hon. Baronet offered him the counsel, not to divide the House.—(Heor, hear.) His anxious hope was, that the people of that part of the country whose representative he was, would consider that there had been a good feeling displayed towards them by the Members of that House.—( Hear, hear.) That the wish which had been evinced throughout the length and breadth of the land had been carried out by the representatives of the people in that House.—( Hear, hear.) With the permission of the House, he would now withdraw his motion, with the hope that her Majesty's Government would not feel the difficulty in performing the task which devolved upon them relative to this unhappy people, increased by any thing which had fallen from him.—( Hear, hear.) Lord STAN LET said, he did not make it at all a matter of complaint against the Hon. Gentleman, for nothing could be more creditable than the manner in which he had brought forward the question. But he aid not wish that an impression should go abroad with respect to . emigration, th at i n conse quence of intentional sileece, or concealment. of their in tentions by her Majesty's Government, any un ounded belief should be created, that relief for the prevailing depression was to be afforded by an extensive scale of emigration. It was about two months ago that reports of such an intention on the part of the Government were very prevalent, and he ( Lord Stanley) hail only declared that these reports were without foundation ; he had no right to make a public explanation on the subject, but whenever applications had been made to him from Paisley and other places, and they had been very numerous, he had always discouraged the prospects that were founded on these reports. Mr. WALLACE said he believed that the Noble Lord had not misled the many persons from those places who were anxious to emigrate ; but he (Mr. Wallace) having told some of those parties that the Government had no such intention, they had replied that he had nothing to do with the present Government, and that they had better informatio n . Mr. S. JERVIS said a great part of the House appeared to be totally ignorant of the state of the Poor-law in Scotland. It would be better if the House couli receive some informa tion as to the power which the Magistrates had to enforce the support of the poor in that country. Mr. WAKLEY said he had no intention of putting the question, or he would have given his Hon. and Learned ' , tient( notice. He thought the House and the country were bound to know what means of relief the people of the country possessed. 'the LORD ADVOCATE said there was a poor law in Scotland, but in many perishes it was unnecessary to enforce it, and this had led to a belief that such a law did not exist. But in every part of Scotland there was a law which provided for every one fallen under the pressure of real destitu tion. But as to the great question of giving relief to able bodied labourers, and the means of providing for them when out of work, it was obvious that there must be some check ap plied, or the whole population might come on the poor-rates. In this count ry—in England—that cheek is the poor-housecheek. lu Scotland they gave voluntary aid and assistance, and 15,0001, or 16,000/. was frequently given for the relief of the poor. COPYRIGHT. Mr. GODSON said he would not occupy the House for any length of time with regard to the Bill relating to the copyright of books, of which he had given notice. lie. did not intend his Bill should apply to the extension of the copyright, but its object was to secure the property in copyright which already subsisted, by having all copyrights registered in the Court of Chancery, the assignments of them, and any mortgage, upon them, in order to facilitate lawsuits, and to know in whom the copyright was vested. He intended his Bill should render property more se cure, and the public would be also benefited' by knowing in whom the copyright subsisted. He wished it to be understood that he did not mean to interfere with any Member who might be desirous of bringing forward a Bill for the extension of copyright. The Hon. Gentleman concluded by moving for leave to bring in a Bill for the better securing the property in the copyright of books. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL seconded the motion. Mr. COCHRANE . proposed as an amendment, the intro duction of a proviso to facilitate the extension of copyright . —( as we understood). • Mr. WA KLEY said, if the Bill was framed upon the same principle as that of the last Parliament, he should give it his opposition. He thought those authors who were possessed of talent were amply reward, d, and those who were not possessed of talent ought to remain a 3 they were. Mr. GODSON said the present Bill was to define the pro pert y of authors in their works. COcHtIANE said he hoped the Hon. and Learned Member would name an early day to bring the Bill before the House. Mr. GODSON said he shonld bring the Bill in directly, as he had it.ready,to do so. Leave was given to, bring in the Bill. MUNICIPAL REGULATION BILL. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL rose to m.,ve for leave to bring in a Bill to explain the Municipal Regulation Act. There was a clause in the Act which precluded persons holding leases of land in boroughs from sitting in corpora tions, and provided that every person so sitting in such corporation was liable to a penalty every time he took his seat. He Lad called the attention of her Majesty's Government to the subject, and the answer given by the then Attorney-Genera was, that he ( Sir F. Pcllock) need be under no apprehensions as to the operation of the 13th. Unfortunately, a case had lately occurred its the Court of Queen's Bench, by which the clause he had referred to had been put in operation, and by which a member of a Town Council had been incapacitated from taking his seat. It was, therefore, the object of this Bill to remedy that evil. Mr. JARVIS fully concurred in the object of the Bill. Leave was given to bring in the Bill. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved f,,r leave to bring in a Bill to allow of a 'vvrit of error in any case of a judgment of the Court of Queen's Bench upon an application for a mandamus. The forms of the. Queen's Bench admitted this in some cases, and there was no reason why,. on principle, it should not be extended to other cases.—Leave was given. Dr. BOWRING, in the absence of Mr. Hawes, moved for a statement of the quantity of sugar, distinguishing that im ported from the British West Indies, the Mauritius, the British possessions in-India, and from foreign countries, upon which duty W 3,4 paid in each month, from January, 1831, to Decem ber, 1841, both inclusive. Also the average price of British Plantation Sugar, as advertised in the London Gazette, in each month during the above period. Also, a statement of the population of the United Kingdom in 1831 and 1841, and for each of the intermediate years, assigning one-tenth of the increase between these years as the annual increase. -.-Ordered. Sir G. CLERK moved that Mr. William -Williams -be added to the Select Committee on Public retitioni.i i Mr. WA KLEY seconded the motion.; :and. In-doing so he sincerely wished that every man in that House could claim-to be as good a Radical as Mr. Williams was.—Ordered. COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY. On the motion for the House going into a Committee of Supply, at any length into the Mr. WAKLEY rose and said he took that fitting opportu country. nity to enter his protest—his solemn and serious protest— against the mode in which the Queen's Speech hadbeen framed in the present Session, and for some years past. He would - not detain the House by ping subject, but he did think that the manner in which Latterly that Speech was framed was unbecoming the character of that House, and was inconsistent with the power, the dignity, and the interests. of the excuse for adopting that mode, and upon which the House was unanimous. lii consequence of our young and beauteous Qu een the commencement of every session had brought with it so m e coming to the Throne, it was c onsidered ed on t that occasion that no difference of opinion should exist as i. to he Q: , , that the out the utmost 'imam nity should prFnt . I h . came another event—the marriage of this beautiful young tads—d nothing could be a greater blessing t o the House tha n unanimity n n that occasion. 'then came the results of that results . at marriage.— (Laughter. ) First, they had . Yrbincess, and now they had a Pi ince, and it was incuom e nt° n the House blessings, and he wa s fully aware that the feelings of the House on that occasion to express its gratitude for these the were the feelings of the country. But on occasions of this sort Speech when the Commons of England were assem bled for the pur pose of promoting the public inte re s t, ho did think i t was _,,,fit ting—he thought it was the duty of the. framers of th e —that such expressions should b e introduced in th e S peech from the tim e e, and made to that H ouse, as w ou ld b e worthy the attention of the world , and comm and for that Hoeft the respect and ad m iration of a large portion o f t h e universe. Instead of that, the Speeches year after year were genera i made up of unmeaning 1 ies . They could not put a finger upon any part t that was worthy of that House. After the House had heard the Speech, the House adopted an Address the echo of the Speech, and he thought nothing could be worse planned than th e Speech and did n Address of the present Session. He not say the present Government was worse than the preceding 1 one, but tfuring the late Administration the p res ent Government ~., was liberal enoug h of their condemnation of the former Gove rnment, and yet, when they, the present Government, came into power them selves, they adopted the precise course of their predecessors. Now he (M r . Wakley) wanted to see an improvement, he de- • sired to see some change, some alteration ; not t o g o en, ear after year, in expressions of unmeaning generalit y ies, making the speech from the Throne . - thing to be laughed at, instead of being a State digenwnt to be respected and admired. The liiglit Hoilktrable "Pt 4, rout, the First Lord of the Treasury, had given notice at the opening of the Session, of his intention of snaking an exposition of his views. He (Mr. Wakley) recollected that, a t the close of last THE SUN, FEBRUARY. 5 . 1842 Sisssion, that Right Hon. Gentleman stated that he was going .to take a review of the country, and that the House having been prorogued for five months, at the meeting of Parliament they should be made acquainted with the measures intended to be brought forward tiy the Government. The questions now discussed were of the last importance to the country, and deeply concerned it. The conduct of Government on these qeestions would determine what must be the issue of the political contest they had been engaged in for a long time ; he regarded the aristocracy of England as being on their trial at the present moment. He, as a Radical Reformer, knew full well that when the Constitution of England was changed by the Reform Bill, those who sought more extensive measures of Reform could not have them completed until the other branch of the in terests of the country, who were then out of power, obtained office ; and the public looked anxiously to what it would do for their good. The most wealthy, the most respected portion of the aristocracy were under trial, they had the power of carrying any measure for the public good, they wanted but the will to do so. He did not know whether that will existed, but if it did exist, they had power in that and the other House to accom plish great results. Hence there could be no trickery, no in trigue, and no fallacies. Nothing could induce the people to turn their attention from the real merits cf the case. The -wealth of England was in power, and were able to pass any measure they deemed advisable for the public benefit and ad vantage. At the present moment he (Mr. Wakley) if called upon to give al opinion as a medical man, would not know rightly what to prescribe.—( Laughter.) When asked what was to be done with the patient, would it not be strange for the doctor to say, that when he had his fee in his pocket he should prescril , so That was certainly a new mode of practice._ (Laughter.) He (Mr. Wakley) regretted that the doctor was not present then. It used in former times to be the practice to prescribe at once for a patient, but now the doctor said be would prescribe next April, and in the interim he would show the gem ral system, and measures that ehouldbe adopted for the benefit of the country. He complained of the Speech delivered from the Throne ; it was vapid, senseless, and useless ; it was utterly unworthy of the Parliament or of the country ; and it was certainly not calculated to impress the public mind with that degree of respect which it was desirable they should have for the Houses of Parliament. He regretted that a greater number of the members of the Government were not then present, or he should have extended his observations upon that subject. However, he for one would certainly move an amendment to the Royal Speeches to be delivered for the fu ture, if they were not framed in a different manner, for they were now utterly useless to the public interests. He was de termined to divide the House upon his amendments, because he thought it was lamentable to see that, year after year, they should be cozened into a thing of that sort, and that the public mind should be left wholly unsatisfied. Sir G. CLERK said, though the Hon. Member for Finsbury had a perfect right to bring forward that matter, yet, he could not avoid saying, that his observation upon the subject of the speeches received from the Throne were then very ill-timed—( Hear, hear)—he should have expressed those opinions on last Thursday evening, when the subject was under consideration—that was the proper time, when the Noble Lord opposite had delivered an exortatien upon the necessity of unanimity ; from the experience of the Hon. Member for Finsbury, he might have known that upon one occasion the House were not unanimous upon speeches from the throne.—( Hear, hear.) He ( Sir G. Clerk) was at a loss to know what sort of speech the lion. Member for Finsbury would recommend when he was placed in the situation of her Majesty's adviser—( A laugh)—though he had a perfect right to introduce those subjects for the consideration of the House, it would have been much better if he had done so when the Ministers of the Crown were present, and would be able to justify and explain the objects of the Speech.—( Hear, hear.) lle ( Sir G. Clerk) was not aware that there was any complaint made of the omission of any matter of importance. There was no subject ornitt , d but one, and that was with rela tion to the introduction of a Bill fo r the renewal of the Poor laws—that was omitted, and it was alluded to by an lion. Member a few nights ago. The First Lord of the Treasury then stated that the subject, though omitted in the Royal Speech, should come under the consideration of the House during the present Session, and that a satisfactory measure should be propounded—that the Right Honourable Baronet said he would take the very first opportunity which he could take consistently with the forms of the House, to bring that, as well as all other measures under the considera tion of the house; and as soon as he had an opportunity, in a Committee of Ways and Means, which was the only proper tone he could move any substantial resolution for supply—he would not only do so, but it was his intention to develope to the House the measures which he would propose on this sub ject. The Right Hon. Baronet could riot take any other course. If there was any important measure to be brought before the I - louse it was mostoxpedient that the example of the former Government should not be followed in al lowing a great number of Bills to be brought forward at once on matters of importance ; those Bills should be diligently in quired into; and, according to the formal practice of intro (hieing them, no Member .of the House knew which of them ' were discussed, even though he was present. Looking at the experience of former Sessions, and the length of time wasted by the introduction of Bills as they then were, he (Sir G. Clerk ) thought that the course marked out by the First Lord of the Treasury, in bringing forward measures when they could be understood and properly discussed, was much better than if lie had brought forward all the measures at once which the Go vernment intended to submit to the House. He trusted that the explanation he had attempted to give would be satisfactory, and that his motion would be acquiesced in by the Honourable Gentleman opposite.—( Hear.) Mr. WAKLEY assured the Hon. Baronet that he had been in the House every moment since the Session commenced. He heard a statement of the intentions of the First Lord of the Treasury—he heard all that. had passed—much of what he had heard gave him great pain —much of it gave him pleasure. He could net expect that all of it would give him pleasure—if he did, he should have been very much disappointed. —( Laughter. ) tie would tell the Hon. Baronet that he (Mr. Wakley) never approved of the Royal Speeches, and as to the introduction of the Poor-law Bill, the House should remember that in August last a Bill was passed upon the subject of Poor-law, and though that Bill was to end in July next, the measure for its continuance was not to be passed until af.er Easter. T he Bill was mint to be introduced till after Easter, and consequently it was expected that it should be brought through both Houses of Parliament its six weeks. He complained of that first, be cause the public should halve ample time to see what those Bills were before they were passed into laws. For his own part, he should have preferred to have no Bills at all rather than have crude and undigested ones. The public were interested in the Poor-law Bill, and that should have been the very first that was introduced to the Ilouse. It should have been introduced in sufficient time to enable the public to express their opinion upon it by petitions or otherwise ; instead of that, although the subject was well un derstood iu the House, and had been frequently and publicly discussed there, the Bill was to remain snugly in the office until after Eater, and then, for the first time, it was to be brought forward, although the Act was to end in July. He considered that that was not acting fairly by those who brought in the Bill originally, or by the people, and he would take an other opportunity of expressing his opinions upon the subject. Mr. FARREN hoped sincerely that the public would avail themselves of the opportunity of expressing their opinions on the Poor-law to the Legislature by petition, and that the Poor law Commissioners would not be in future allowed to abrogate the powers of the Constitution, but that they should have a Government that would bend to the opinions of the public. The resolution was then agreed to, and the report ordered to he received to-morrow. The other Orders of the Day having been disposed of, the House adjourned at Half. past Nine o'Clock. PARLIAMENTARY DIVISION. (From the Votes and Proceedings of the House of Commont.) MONDAY, FEB. 7. PI?ESENTATIOS Vl' I'UBLIC PETITIONS. Motion made, and Question put, " That the said Resolution, (0 That this House adhere to the established practice with re spect to the presentation of Petitions, as laid down by Mr. Speaker,') be rescinded : "—Mr. Wallace.--Th e H ouse divided: MINORITY—AYES, 50 Armstrong, Sir A. Hatton, Captain V, Powell, Caleb Bernal, R. Heathcoat, John Rennie, George Blackstone, \V. S. Hill, Lord Marcas Ricardo, John Lewis Blake, Sir Valentine Hindley, Charles Roche, Sir D. liowting, 1)r. Johnson, General Strickland, Sir G. Chapman, Benjamin Leader, J. T. Troubridge, Sir T. Cobden, Itieliard Mitcalle, Henry Villiers, Charles a'. Collins, W. Morris, David Vivian Hon. Captain Crawford, W S. Mostyn, Hon. E. M. Wakley, Thomas D'lsrswh, Benjamin 'Muntz, G. F. VVason, Rigby Duncannbe ' T. S. O'Connell , D. Watson, \V. H. Esnionde, Sir T. O'Connell, 'Maurice Wawn, John T, Ewart, %V. I"ergusun, t ()loud Heiden, J. O'Connell, ltj J. O'Connell, J. Ogle, S. C. EL Williams, NV. - Yorke, H. Redhead Han, Sir 13. ilaitord, Summers tiarris, John Q. PC;c1;e11, Captain l'inncy, W. Plumridge, Captain TELLERP Wallace, R. Roebuck, J. A. Acland, Sir Thomas A'Court, Captain Ackers, James Acton, Colonel Adderlcy, C. B. Alibi, John Peter Antrobus, Edmund Bailey, Joseph, jun. Baillie, Colonel laillic, H. J. Baird, William Ballonr, J. NI. Baring, W. B. Baring, H. B. baring, F. T. Barnard, K G. Baskerville, 'l'. B. N. Beckett, William Bell, m. Bcnett, John Berezt nrti, Captain 'Serval° rel, Major Bla It 1 , 111010, H. Botniin, W. H. lialdero, Henry G. Borth wick, Peter lieriali Bowes, J. Bradshaw, Janies Braniston, T. W. Broailley, "'miry Broadwood, H. tirodie, W B. Brotherton, J. Browne, W. Brownrigg, J. S. Bruce, Lord E. Bruce, C. L. . Biyaii, George Buck, Lewis W. Bucklay, Edmuntl Buller, E. Buller, Sir J. B. Y. Busfeild, W. Campbell, Sir H, Campbell, Carnegie, Captain Cartwright, W. R. Chelsea, Viscount Chetwotle, Sir John Cholmondeley, H. Christmas, William Christopher, It. A. Clayton, Sir NV. Clerk, Sir G. ',live. It. U., Cochrailo, A. oll.onie, W. Ridley Collett, W. !Belford Compton, H. Connolly, Colonel Corry, H. L. Cowper, lion W. Cre , swell, Bakea Cripps, ' T. Bright D alrymple, Captain 'Liner, Hon. Dawson Dawson, Hon. 'l'. V. Denison, John Evelyn Denison, E. Beckett Dicisinson, F. H. ')ivett, E. Dodd, t- , eo,rge Duglas, Sir C. E. Drummond, H H. Duncan, George Duncombe, 0. Dundas, David Easthope, Sir John JORITY - NOES, Eaton, Richard J. Ebrington, Viscount Egerton, Sir P. G. Eliot, Lunt Elphinstone, Howard Enslyn, Viscount Escott, Biekham Fernand, W. B. Fitzroy, Captain Flo Mott, Jahn Forbes, William Forman, T.S. 237. Mainwaring, 'F Manners, Lird C. March, Earl of Marsham, Viscount Martyn, C. Cecil Manic, Hon. Fax Mitchell, T. A. Morgan, Octavius Mundy, E. Miller Murray, C. It. S. Napier, Sir Charles Neeld, John Needle, Ralph Newry, Viscount Nicholl, J Northland. Lord O'Brien, NV. S. Paget, Lord Alfred Pakington, John S. Peel, Sir B. Peel, Jonathan Philips, Mark • l'igot, Sir . It. Pluraptre. J. P. Pollock, Sir F. Praed, %V. 'l'. Pringle, A. Protheroe, Posey, Philip 1 Rashleigh, William Iteade, W. M. ltepton, George J. Richards, Richard Rous, Hon. Captain It ushbrooke, Colonel Russell, Lord John Sandon, Lord SCarlett, Hon. R. Shaw, F. Sheppard, Thomas Shirley, E. P. Sibthorp, Colonel Smith, Vernon Smythe, Hon. G. Smollett, A. Somerset, Lord 0. Somerton, Viscount Sotheron, I'. H. Stanley, Lord Stanstield, W. R. Strutt, Edward Fuller, A. E. I Gaskell, J. M. Gill, Thomas Gladstone, W. E. Godson, Richard Gordon, lion. W. Gordon, Lord F. Gore, W. R. 0. Gore, W 0. Goulburn, N. Graharn, Sir J. Granger, T. C. Grant. Sir A. C. Greenall, Peter Greer.e, T. G. sircy, Sir O. Grimsditelt, T. Grimston, Lord Grogan, Edward Haltord, 11. Hamilton, James Hamilton, W. J. Hamilton, Lord C. Harcourt, G. G. Hardinge, Sir H. !lardy, John Hastie, A. Hawes, B. Heat!mote, Sir W. Henley, J. W. Herbert, Hon. S. Hill, Sir Rowland Hodgson, F. Hodgson, Houlds worth, T, Holmes, W. Hope, Charles Hope, G. W Hornby John Howard. C. W. G. Hughes, W. B. Jaraes, Sir Walter Jeriman, Earl Johnson, W. G. Johnstone, Alex. Johnstone, Hope Knatehbuil, Sir E.. Knight, F. Winn Labouebere, H. Lainbton,y._. Stuart, H. Sturt, 11. C. Sutton, Henry M. Taylor, T. E. Tennent, J. K Thompson, Aid. Tollemaehe, John Townley, K. G. TroHope, Sir John Trotter, John Tufnell, Henry Vere, Sir C. B. • - Larpent, Sir G. . . . Lawson, Andrew Legh, George C. Leicester, Earl of Lennox, Lord A. Liddell, IL 'l', Lincoln, Earl of Lindsay, IL Lir Wu, E. Loch, James Lockhart, William Lowther, J. H. Verner, W. Vernon, Granville Villiers, Viscount Vivian, C. C. Waddington, H. S. Walker, It, Wall, B. Wood, Colonel T Wortley, J. ?.. , tuart Wrightson, W Wyndham, W. Young, John Young, Sir W. Lygon, Ceneral Macaulay, T. B. Mackenzie, Thomas MacGeachy, F. A. Mahon, Lord TELLERS. Inglis, Sir it. H. Fremantle, Sir T. DEATH FROM THE EXTRACTION bF A TOOTII.—A few days a,gct a young man i n Ldilturgh having had pension te have one of his teeth drann, went to a dentist for I'M' 1 , Vw ,„ se , On the operati on b eing performed, a violent t: b 'oo I )i anorrhage imme la e ace, llich it wa s f o und impos sible to stanch, and thy tace, k p e young man actually bled to death. Cases of this kind, we are inf6rmed, are by no means unex ampled, and persons of a hemorrhagial tendency ought to be peculiarly careful of having rec ourse to the extraction of their teeth, in almost any circumstances.. Glasgow Constitutional. INDIA. The following official despatches give an account of the proceedings of Sir E.. Sale's brigade in Affghan istan, cursorily alluded to in The Sun of yesterday : OFFICIAL DESPATCHES OF THE ENGAGEMENTS IN THE KHOORD CABOOL PASS. FORT WILLIAM, Nov. 27, 1541. SECRET DEPARTMENT. The Right Hon. the Governor-General in Council is pleased to publish, for general information, the annexed copies of de spatches from Major-General Sir Robert Sale, K.C.8., de tailing the results of several affairs with the insurgent tribes of the northern Ghilzies, on the road from Cabool to Bootkhak, in which, under extreme disadvantages of position, the gal lantry and zeal of the troops under his command have been severely tried and conspicuously displayed. By command of the Right Hon. the Governor-Gen. in Council, T. H. MADDOCK, Secretary to the Government of India. ['Rom MAJOR.GEN. SIR ROBERT SALE., K.O 8., TO CAPTAIN GRANT, ASSISTANT-ADJUTANT-GENERAL, CAhOOL. Dated Camp, Bootkhak, Oct. 12, 1841. Sir,--I have the honour to state to pu, for the information of illajor-General Elphinstone, C. 13., that the task of forcing the p%ss of Khoord Cabool, and defeating the rebels posted within it, has this morning been accomplished. After fully weighing the whole of the information brought to me at various periods in the course of yesterday, I came to the cunclusion, that the main body of the insurgents was posted behind a breastwork, near the middle of the pass, and that they would defend it, as well as the almost inaccessible heights, on either flank of it. M`• plan of attack was therefore arranged as follows :—I de termined to employ two hundred Juzailchees, under the well known Sirdar Jan Fishan Khan, to create a diversion by as saulting, in flank and rear, the precipitous ridge which forms the southern side of the Durra, whilst the troops under my command entered its gorge, and attacked the enemy in front. The force left camp at 6A. Nt. The advanced guard consisted of the two guns of foot artillery under Lieutenant Dawes, two companies of the 13th Light Infantry under Capt. Fenwick and Lieut. George King, the flank companies of the 35th Native Infantry under Captain Younghusband, and a detach ment of pioneers under Captain Broadfoot, the whole being in charge of Captain Seaton, 35th regiment Native Infantry. The remainder of the 13th and 35th formed our main body. As we approached the insurgents' position, we found that all the reports of our spies had been substantively correct, but that the enemy were withdrawing from behind their breastwork in the valley, and occupying the rocky ridges of the mountains on either side. They opened upon U 3 a well-directed fire, and at the very commencement of the affair I received a wound from a ball above the ankle, which ultimately compelled me to leave the field. Whilst I remained on it, however, I directed two companies of the 13th, and one of the 35th, to ascend the precipices on either hand in face of the enemy ; and I must in justice to them mention the gallantry, activity, and persever• ance with which this duty was performed, and the enemy driven by our skirmishers from peint to point of eminences almost perpendicular. When compelled to retire, I resigned thecom mand into the hands of Lieut.-Colonel Dennie, C. 8., and have the pleasure to forward his report, detailing the further pro gress and completion of the affair. I beg to add, that whilst I remained at the head of the force, the conduct of both officers and men afforded me the highest satisfaction, and I am greatly pleased with the spirited and judicious manner in which Lieut.-Colonel Dennie brought the matter to a close. The exertions of my Brigade Major, Captain Wade, and of Captain Havelock and Lieut. Airey, of Majer-General Elphin stone'spersonal staff, who attached themselves to me as volun teers on this service, demand my amplest acknowledgments. 'I he last mentioned of these officers had a horse shot under him. I beg to forward the casualty return of the 13th : that of the Artillery, Sappers, and 35th N. I. shall follow. A memorandum of the ammunition expended is also annexed. I am thankful for the promised reinforcement of two guns; and if the 37th regiment N. I. can also be promptly sent out, it will relieve the troops from a part of very harassing out-post duty, in an exposed plain, in the vicinity of mountains. P.S. I ought not to have forgotten to mention, that Captain Bellew, Assistant Quarter-Master-General, who had previously. under General Elphinstone's instructions, reconnoitred the passes occupied by the enemy, accompanied me during my march from Cabool, and ably aided me, until the moment of my being wounded, upon which he continued to render very valu able assistance to Lieut.-Col. Dennie. To Brevet Captain Trevor, 3d Light Cavalry, politically employed on this occasion, I was indebted for the information obtained at Bootkhak ; upon it my plan of at tack was based, and it proved correct. in every particular ; and he was personally active and conspicuous throughout the engagement. FROM LiEuT,-COL. W. H. DENWIE, C. 8., COMMANDING 13TH LIGHT INFANTRY, TO MA4OI3R. GENERAL SIR R. H. SALE, K.e.8., COMMANDING. Dated. Camp, Bootkhak, Oct. 12, 1841. Sir,—l beg, on my return to camp, to report the details of the progress and completion of the affair with the rebels in the Khoord Cabool Pass, begun in so spirited a manner under your personal command this morning. On receiving charge over the troops, in consequence of I.your wound compelling you to leave the valley, I pursued your plan of operations by pressing the enemy as much as the nature of the ground would admit on both flanks, and rapidly moving on the main columns and guns, with the intention of dis lodging them from their breastwork, if still occupied, but this the insurgents had evacuated, though they ventured to dispute the possession of the precipitous heights, and to di rect a well-aimed fire against our main force. Disconcerted, however, by the bold manner in which they were met by our skirmishers as they scaled the mountain sides, and by the steady progress of the advance. they gradually abandoned their first position, and retired to the highest ridges and pinnacles of the Dun-a. I had resolved from the first not to allow any lateral oppo sition to divert me from the main purpose of clearing the val ley, and a little after seven a.m. I had the satisfaction of reaching the southern gorge of the pass, and establishing there the 35th Native Infantry and the guns in an excellent post, constituted by the walls of a strong and capacious though de serted fort. By this time our skirmishers had everywhere got possession of the heights, and the Affghan force under Jan Ftslien Khan had also crowned the mountains and displayed their banners on its summit. You are aware that it was part of your original plan that the 13th Light Infantry should return to their encampment at Bootkhak—as the column marched back, the enemy showed themselves on several points of the defile, and opened a fire, and some loss was sustained in repelling these attacks, and in withdrawing our flanking parties. The troops finally arrived at Bootkhak, about two p.m., a good deal harrassed by the exertions of the morning. You will see by the returns, that the casualties have not been few, which arose from the great advantage afforded by the ground to an enemy trained to mountain warfare. Permit me to add the expression of my admiration of the fearless manner in which the men of the 13th, chiefly young soldiers, ascended heights nearly perpendicular, under the sharp fire of the insurgents. The sepoys of the 35th rivalled and equalled them in steadiness , activity, and intrepidity. I am happy to say, that no loss whatever of baggage of the native infantry was sustained in traversing this valley of plunderers. I have not yet received the casualty return of the 35th regi ment of Native Infantry, but have reason to believe that it is in amount about equal to that of the 13th, and I am informed that they have one officer, Captain Younghusband, severely wounded. Return of Killed, Wounded, and Missing of the Force under the command of Major-Gen, Sir R. H. Sale, K.C.8., in forcing the pass of Khoord Cabool, on the 12 Oct. 1841. 2d company Bth battalion artillery, wounded, one private and three horses. Her Majesty's 13th Light Infantry, killed, 2 privates ; wounded, 2 subalterns, 2 sergeants, and 16 privates. 35th regiment N. 1., killed, 2 privates and sepoys ; wounded, 1 captain, 1 corporal, and 8 privates and sepoys. Sappers and miners, killed, ditto ; wounded, 2 privates. General Staff.—Major-General Sir R. Sale, K. C. 13., com manding, wounded severely : and Captain Wade, Major of Brigade, slightly. 13th Light Infantry.—Lieutenant Mein, wounded severely ; and Ensign Oakes, ditto slightly. :35th regiment N. I.—Captain Younghusband, wounded severely. (Signed) H. WADE, Captain, Major of Brigade. FROM MAJOR-GENERAL SIR R. H. SALE, K.C.8., COM MANDING IST BRIGADE OF BRITISH TROOPS SERVING IN AFFGHANISTAN, TO CAPTAIN GRANT, OFFICIATING AS. SISTANT-ADJUTANT.GENERAL, CABOOL. Camp in the Valley near Teezeem, Oct. 23, 1841. Sir—l beg to acquaint you, for the information of Major- General Elphinstone, C. 8., that the force united under my command, consisting of the Ist brigade of infantry, No. 6, light field battery, the mountain train, the corps of Sappers and Miners, a squadron of the sth Light Cavalry, and a rissalah of the Shah's 2d cavalry, marches from Khoord Cabool to wards Teezeem yesterday morning. Lieutenant-Colonel Mon teath, 35th, commanded the advanced guard ; Lieutenant- Colonel Dennie, 13th, the main column ; and Captain Old field, sth Light Cavalry, the rear guard ; in each of which troops of the several arms were appointed according to the best of my judgment. The force felt its way cautiously through the defiles of the Huft Kotul, occupying with skirmishers the hills on either flank, and leaving parties for the protection of our baggage and rear on selected points. Nothing was seen of the enemy until the advance and main body had halted in the Valley of Teezeem. From this low ground another vale stretches out towards the ' south-east, and on the sides and summits of the mountains which enclose the latter were posted in every quarter bodies of the insurgents, whilst another portion of their force, consisting of foot, led on by sirdars on horseback and their mounted followers, showed a determination to dispute with us the possession of a conical hill, which partially closes the entrance of the branching valley, and barred our ap proach to Moohumuil Ufza.l's fort, a large work backed by gardens, which the rebels still garrisoned. From this eminence the advance-guard, under Colonel Monteath, drove them by a combined attack ; and I then directed the 13th Light Infantry and a port inn of Captain Abbott's battery to advance under Lieutenant-Colonel Dennie, and assault the fort itself. The insurgents, however, abandoned it, after directing from it a feeble fire. I immediately determined to establish in it a depot for my sick and wounded, and to take it as a point of support for ulterior operations, and an appui to my camp, to be fixed under its walls; but as the enemy continued to occupy in force a nearly circular range of heights, and even boldly to skirmish in a lower part of the valley, it became necessary to drive them from such segments of the mountain as would, if remaining in their hands, have given the power to com mand our position, and fire upon the troops with advantage at night. This led to a succsssion of skirmishes which were maintained with great coolness and spirit by several com panies of the 13th and one of the 35th, aided by the guns of Captain Abbott's battery and the mountain train, and sup. ported by the cavalry. The combat was prolonged until after dusk, and the ammunition of one of the companies of the 13th having been expended, it was compelled temporarily to retire, and a very promising officer, Lieutenant Edward King, was killed at its head. A supply of cartridges and a reinforcement were preinptly sent up, and the affair ended by the rebels being pushed off every part of the steep mountains which we designed to retain. The returns will show that our loss has been slight, and I have no doubt that the enemy suffered severely from the tire of our skirmishers and the shot of our batteries. The force bivouacked in position witho u t an at tempt being mad e upon our line. Morning showed us the heights everywhere deserted by the rebels, and if a negotia tion which they have opened in very humble terns should not end in their entire submission, I purpose to attack their prin cipal fort to-morrow. I regret to base to t a ad that, though every precaution tva, adopted far the ' Svr':trity of our line of communication, a la• fge inte rval waa 'created between our main body and rear guard by the e i .".cumstance of the latter having to await at I.;.hoord Ca t 00l the arrival of carriage from the capital for pact of the public baggage. Alight-armed enemy, well acquainted with the country, did not fail to take advantage of tt.iis, and I fear that some ammunition and valuable stores stave fallen into their hands. I beg to forward the report of 'Captain Old field, detailing every occurrence whilst he commanded the rear guard; also, the returns of killed and wounded, and of amwiu. nition expended. Return of the Killed, Wounded, and Missing of the Force under the command of Major-General Sir R. H. Sale, K.C.8., in the attack on the Enemy's Position in the Valley of Teezeem, on the 22d Oct., 1841. MORNING SUN Second company 6th battalion artillery, wounded, I sergeant and 1 horse. Squadron, sth Light Infantry, killed, 1 horse; wounded, I private. Her Majesty's 13th Light Infantry, killed, 1 lieutenant,3 pri vates ; wounded, 1 lieutenant, 1 corporal, and 7 private!. Sappers and Miners, killed, 1 private ; wounded, 1 lieute nant, 5 privates and sepoys, and 1 mule. Mountain train, wounded, two privates and sepoys. Killed—Lieut. Edw. King, her Males! y's 13th Light Infantry. Wounded—Lieut. Frere, her Majesty's 13th Light Infantry, slightly ; and Lieut. Ore, Sappers and Miners, severely. (Signed) a WADE. Captain, Major of Brigade FROM MAJOR-GENERAL SIR R. H. SALE, c . MANDING THE IST BRIG ARE OF BRITISH TOOPS . SERVING"M IN AFFGHANISTAN, TO CAPT. GRANT, OFFICI ATING AS SISTANT-ADJUTANT-GENERAL, CA BOOL. Dated Camp, Jugdulluk, Oct. 28, 1841 Sir,—l have the honour to acquaint you, for the informa tion of Major-General Elphiustone, C. 8., that the force under my command reached this place to-day. Last night passed over without the slightest insult to our out-poets at Kuttah Sung; but during - the morning's march we descried small par ties at a distance on both tiAnks, especially near the outlet of the Murree Durree, which afterwards united in a combined attack on our rear guard. Our loss has been small, and the enemy was everywhere baffled and r.el4 in check by the lire from our guns and skirmishers. Owing however to the jaded state of our camels, it became necessary to destroy a good deal of camp equipage to prevent its falling into the rebels' hands. The daily repetition of these attacks has given rise to sus picions of the sincerity of the Chiefs in the mind of the po litical assistant, in which I am compelled to participate, though I shall be happy to find that their submission at Teezeem was made in good faith, and that these petty hostilities are the acts of men not under their controul. FROM MAJOR -GENERAL SIR R. H. SALE, COM. HANDING THE IST BRIGADE or BRITISH TROOPS SEP.V ING IN AFFGHANISTAN, TO CAPT. GRANT, OFFICIATING ASSI S T ANT - ADJUTANT-GENERAL, CABOOL. Dated Camp, Gundamuk, Oct. 30, 1441. Sir—Yesterday the force under my command was again en gaged with the insurgents of these mountains, and the affair was the sharpest which we have had since penetrating the pass of Khoord Cabool. I experienced little molestation in my camp at Jugdulluk, but observed towards sunset and by moonlight evident indications of the enemy which had attacked our rear guard earlier in the day, being in the act of moving off over the hills with a view of concentrating between my force and Sook. hab. Major-General Elphinstone is acquainted with the loca lities, and will not have forgotten that the only entrance to the valley of Jugdulluk, from the eastward, is by a long and winding kotul, overlooked and commanded by a lofty range of mountains, partially clothed with bushes and dwarf trees. Of these really terrific eminences the rebels had, as I had anticipated, taken possession, in more considerable num bers than we had been opposed to since leaving Teezeem. Holdieg all the salient points of the hills, and secured by breast works, they showed a determination to dispute with the utmost obstinacy the progress of our flanking parties, and to endeavour to prevent the debouch of our advance and main column. To enable us to effect this, I had to detach companies from every corps in the force to the right and left, which, aided by the Artillery, won their way, inch by inch, up the lofty heights; much, however, remained to be done, and the fire of the mountaineers from several of the tallest summits was un abated, and success was every where doubtful, when a single company of the 13th, under Captain Wilkinson, was directed to advance up the defile itself. It pressed forward at a rapid pace, supported by all the reserves which re mained available, and to the surprise of the whole force found that the enemy had neglected to guard the main outlet. This vanguard, therefore, it supports, andithe guns were quickly established on the narrow table land, from which they had it in their power to take the whole of the defences of the rebels in reverse. Our troops commanded the route Sookhab, and the enemy seemed to decline all further opposition. The march was resumed, but as the cumbrous train of baggage tiled over the mountain, the insurgents again appearing from beyond the most distant ridges, renewed the contest with increased num bers and the most savage fury. Our rear-guard made the hest dispositions for defence and rescue ; but the suddenness of the onset caused some confusion, during which, notwithstanding the efforts of the troops, some baggage and camp equipage fell into the hands of their opponents. Captain Wyndham, of the 35th, was kills d at this crisis of the affair, and several brave men of all the corps Jell or were wounded. Soon, however, by the praiseworthy exertions and cool and soldier-like order and example of Captains Backhouse and Broadfoot, of the Shah's service, and Fenwick, of the 13th, confidence was restored, the aspect of the affair changed, and the rear-guard ext r i ca t e d f rom the defile. It continued in the best order to retreat, and to repel the enemy, who had followed it up to the point at which the loftier hills wear away. Our casualties of yesterday and the day before amount to 130, amongst whom are one officer killed and four wounded. This loss will not be considered heavy by those who have seen the heights from which the re bels were driven, and are acquainted with the habits and cha racter of the mountaineers to whom we were opposed. I have to-day marched to this place without any interruption worthy of mention. From the details of this despatch the Major-General com manding in Affghanistan will be enabled to draw his own in ferences as to the actual state of our relations with the re fractory chiefs who were admitted at Teezeem into a treaty of reconciliation with the Government against which they had rebelled. But it belongs more peculiarly to my voca tion in the field, now that there is a, prospect of brief re pose in the vicinity of this cantonment, to report with much satisfaction the cheerfulness, steadiness, and perseverance with which the troops have performed every duty required of them. Since leaving Cabool, they have been kept constantly nn the alert by attacks by night and day ; from the time of their sr ' rival at Teezeem, they have invariably bivouacked, and tlre safety of cur positions has only been secured by unremitting labour and throwing up entrenchments, and very severe out post duty, whilst each succeeding morning has brought its affair with a bold and active enemy, eminently skilful in the species of warfare to which their:attempts have been con fined, and armed with juzails, which have enabled them to annoy us at a range at which they could only be reached by our artillery. Though compelled by the effects of my late wound to witness these contlicts from a doolie, I must bear my un equivocal testimony to the gallantry of officers and men tins every occasion of contact with the enemy, anti e , pe..ially in scaling the tremendous heights above Jugdulluk. I enclose casualty return. 1 beg to express m) sense of the highly able assistance which I have received in all our attacks and skirmishes, and through out the operations, from Lieutenant-Colonels Monteath and Dennie, C.B. I have been much pleased with the address and able management of Captain Abbott, of the artillery, who has twice commanded the advance guard ; and the exertions of Captain Wade, my Brigade Major, and of Captain Havelock, Persian interpreter to Mr. Elphinstone (temporarily attached. to me), in conveying my orders from point to point, and aiding in the dispositions, deserve my warmest commendations. Return of the killed, Wounded, and Missing of the Force under the command of Major-Gen. Sir Robert H. Sale, K.C.8., on the advance to and storming of the Pass of Jugdulluk, on the 28th and 29th of October, 1841. Second Company sth battalion Artillery—killed, 1 private; wounded, 5 privates and vepoys and 2 horses. Fifth regiment Light Cavalry squadron—killed, 2 horse s; wounded, 1 private and 2 horses. Her Majesty's 13th Light Infantry—killed, 4 privates; wounded, 3 lieutenants and 30 privates.: 35th regiment N.l.—killed, 1 captain, 2 lieutenants, 2 soobadars, 1 jemedar, 1 corporal, and 12 privates p.m' sepoys ; wounded, 1 lieutenant, 1 jemedar, 4 staff serjeants, serjeants and havildars, I corporal, and 25 privates and sepoys. Sappers and Miners—killed, 1 serjeaut'and 6 privates and sepoys ; wounded, 1 soobadar, 1 jer.edar, 4 staff serjeants, serjeants and havildars, I corporal„ and 13 privates and sepoys. 2d regiment, Shah Soojah's Cavalry wounded, 1 horse. Killed—Captain Wyndham, 35th regt. N.I. Wounded—Lieutenants Jennings, Holcombe, and Rattray, 13th Light Infantry; and Coombs, 35th N. 1., severely. (Signed) IL WADE, Captain, Major of Brirade. BOMBAY PRICE CURRENT, Drc. 2:',. COUNTRY PRODUCE.—The cotton market, which had be come very dull, has begun to show some anima' i on since the arrival of the Good Success ; prices may be quoted as follows : Surat, Broach, and Jumbooser Rs. 1% to 109 per candy llholera Kompta ... lto " 95 to 96 " Opium.—Purchases continue to be made at from 710 to 718. The stock in the place is 2 :s follows : Balance of former year'sir.aportation. Imported from the 344 . o f November to the 2lst of December s 1841... Exported from the 27th of October to the 21st of December, 1841 " 1,864 3,861 i " 1,974 Remaining CHINA PnonucE.—The supply of Canton silk is large, especially of the lower qualities, and considerable sales hay• been effected. MONEY . MARKET.—Exchange on London, 2s. Old. to 2s. Oid. Exchange on Bengal—The sale of the Bank of Bombay bills on the Bank of England at thirty days' sight averaged 9S rupees, and they have been sold lower since. Bills on Madras, 99 rupees to 99 rupees 2 annas, at thirty days' sight. FREIGIITS.—To London, 3/. ss. per ton ; to Liverpool, 3/. to 3/. ss. per ton ; to China, 17 rupees to 18 rupees per candy for cotton to Macao. CALCUTTA MONEY MARKET, DEC. 18. The mail left la,t night with, we understand, a tolerable amount of bill,, and which were negotiated at 2s. Id. to, Z. I id. Quotations were even at 2s. I ad., but we believe no transactions took place at that ffgure. The money market, owing to passing events, has been rather heavy, and the Bazaar folks exhibit some want of confidence. The non-arrival of the November mail is causing a stagnation in operations in one of our chief staples—indigo, though we hear a large purchase to the tune of 27 lacs spoken of. GOVERNMENT SECURITIES.—The political state of the country has restrained speculation in these in\ eitments. Bank Stock continues in fair demand. CousTitv PROM CF.—INDIGo.—Some speculative pur chases to the extent of 17,000 maund s o f diff erent marks (4,800 maunds of which are from the Timoot Association) have taken place by private transaction in anticipation of favottralle ac counts from England by the November mail, at abf,ut 30 to 40 rs. per maund below the price realised last sey,on for the same marks. There has been no public sale durir, g the week. The exports of the season to the 17th inst, arc,_ To Great Britain North America... de, 62 Red Sea do 178 9,569 CALCUTTA, 'COMMERCIAL. (From the Ca/elate Price Current, Dec. 18 . ) The past month has presented an improv ement i n our market as regards the demand and prices in th e i mport and ex port trades. An or , '„inary range of business has taken place. • nd in the present 'state of things we do not expect any anima tion in our roark , l for some time to come. The accounts from the principal mr,,rts to the interior are unfavourable. The politica i state of the country has restrained speculation in Governme n t securities. The crop of indigo seems now to be ascertained to be not under 150,000 maunds ; but purchasers in general evinced as disposition to buy until after the arrival of the November mail. Consequent to numerous arrivals the rates of homeward ton nage declined considerably from our quotations of the 16th ultimo, but within the last few d a y s , u p on d eman d b y Govern ment cir tannage for the conveyance of stores to China, and Itr,,on more activity in exports, consequent to better accounts regarding sugar, the rates of freightage have again advanced_ and are now within ss. to 7s. 6d. o f w h a t r u led at the date of our last issue, with still upward tendency ; the following may be reported as current :----Nothing doing in the T e o:117 1 1 , Rates for grain to the Mauritius have declined. 1) t to announce COMMF:RCIAL FAILURE.—We much regr et 21. 15s. to 31. ss. ; light goods, 2/. ss. to 2t. 105. t t originated ID the failure of the highly-respectable h i nse ersta 6 f . e . l3 , of this city. The measure has, we o f Small, Colqubottr ~ firm some misunderstanding with the feeling of regret pervades 'the and Co., of London. But one oyd and Co., highTen ietyfor some years past.— _ E dered important Fervieee . t i :some modification, we belie' ng. lishman, Dec. 17. ( sate reason for stoppage ; but ye' this will prove the imm e"aof forbearance 6; 1, ;... in this wus,,, we have town, as the partners are men of character, who have heard of a certain want ___. s , ~ e 4 S*".- CAI. cotta Courtier, Dec. 17 1 ,1 ,, , 4., ~,' ' l :4 it-DA