The Sun. — London, England, 1820-08-23 00:00:00

LONDON JOU ItNALS. (DAILY EXTRACTS.] -.411..--- FROM THE MORNING PAPERS. [Morning Post.] TRIM,. OF THE QUEEN.-Yesterday the con clusion of the examination of Theodore .11(docci, the first witness in support of the preamble to the Bill in the Lords, and his cross-examination by Mr. 13rougham, which was not finished, lasted till very near five o'clock, to which hour, after some discussion, it was agreed the House should sit during the remainder of this important in quiry. When only one witness is examined this is an exhausting task, but Counsel, Witnesses, and Interpreters will cheerfully submit to fa tigue, when they see their Lordshps make such a sacrifice of their time. It is perhaps questionable, however, how far the physical force of man can supply this prolonged attention, and meet this exigent demand. Some debate arose on the fre quent reply of Majocci, " Questo non mi recordo," strictly translated, " This Ido not remember;" but, as it appears to us, in many instances mean ing that he could not answer the question, did not uwderstand it, or was at a loss for definite ideas. By reading the examination it will occur to the public, that in some instances it was im possible that the want of lnemory could be the intended purport of the witness's words. As we yesterday remarked upon her Majesty's abrupt departure, so have we now to notice her Coun sel's mode of putting his questions. Highly ap preciating the zeal of the advocate, and giving full latitude to that course, whose object is to weaken the proof against the accused, it may be thought that the Learned Gentleman went quite as far as was proper in his skilful operations for sifting the evidence,and in availing himself of the handsome manner in which the whole Peers of Great Britain surrendered their time into his hands, on the assurance that he had arrived at a critical and most vital part of his duty. We confess that to us the questions after that period appear to be of • less consequence than any which preceded them.— Mr. Brougham and some of the Party Scribes .affect to complain that the publication of the proceedings in this case has not been prohibited. If this were done in hostility to the Queen and her friends, it would certainly be a very harsh proceeding, after the singular display of modera tion which they have made ever since the Queen came to England, and after the great anxiety which her Majesty and her Advisers, legal and illegal, have evinced to guard against the ques tion being prejudged. Of course the Party could not expect that so uncourteous a return would be made for that dignified and affecting offspring of suffering innocence, which the organ of that Party but one little week ago politely called " a Manifesto,"—" a manifesto," it might have added, surpassing in boisterous scurrility and mischievous tendency, any thing that Queen Isa bella, wife of Edward 11. and Catherine 11. of Russia, have left behind them for the edification of posterity, When, however, the Party writers tell us, that the Government interdicted, pend ing the trials, the publication of evidence in mat ters of sedition, we must say first, that we do not immediately recollect any thing of the kind ; and in the next place we must remark, that we do not know that the House of Lords has ever been bound by the rules laid down by the Judges in the inferior Courts of Justice. We would further remark, that the Judges are not the Government; but the evil we have no* to com plain of, in the publication of the evidence, we think may easily be traced to those who are the first to complain of it. When we recollect how feelingly they pourtayed the evils to which the late Mr. 7'histlewood and his worthy friends were subjected, through the restriction put on the publication of the evidence given on the trials for High Treason—when we recall how clearly they pointed out the manifold advantages that would result from giving all that transpired immediately to the world ; and when they told us how likely such a course was to call forth witnesses who might contradict what had been urged against the individual on tr;al, we felt half convinced by their arguments, and think it pro bable that the Government, wholly convinced by them, were determined that her Majesty should be the first to profit by that conviction. —This we guess to be the case; but the Party writers will spew us perhaps, that what has been done and what has been doing is base partiality —that the publication of the evidence lately given .at the Old Bailey was interdicted to favour 'rhistlewood and his accomplices, and that it is w permitted, to injure the Queen. {lllorning Chronicle.] Iv the present early stage of the Proceedings against the Queen, no rational opinion can be formed as to the result.—Our Readers will, no doubt, remark the difference that exists between the clear recollection of the most minute circum stances that the first witness exhibited on his ex amination in chief, and his Non mi recordo, in his answer to almost every question of Mr. Brougham, ou his cross-examination. [Morning herald.] We need hardly direct the attention of the reader to the continuation of the evidence in Our paper of this day. It is of the deepest impor tance. It is not our business, 'or rather indeed, it would be the grossest impropriety to suggest any inference, or make any observation. W do nut agree with some of our cotemporaries, who censure the Ministers for not prohibiting the pub lication of the statement and evidence. In the first place, it is likely, that if the prohibition had been issued, blame would be imputed to the same quarter which is 110 W charged with disre garding the interests of justice, in allowing the free publication. In the second place, it strikes us, that it will not in the 'cast prejudice the case of the Queen.—The evidence given before not only the Peers, and the Counsel, &c. on both sides, but before one hundred strangers also, must have gone abroad in a doubtful state. PARLIAMENT, HOUSE OF LORDS, AUG. 22. • TILE QUEEN. Thelolding doors below the Bar were thrown open, and the Counsel and Agents eniNrok The Interpreter, the Marchese37lltr-TTo, ap peared at the Bar. - Several cries of " Go on—go on," proceeded from different parts of the House. _ _ The SOLICITOR-GENERAL then resumed the examination of the witness (Majocci) who was under examination yesterday. Did you go to Carlsruhe with the Princess ?—Yes. Did you go also to Nuremberg, Vienna, and Trieste ? I went., Without asking you particularly as to the arrangement of the bed-rooms of Bergami and the Princess at each of those places, I wish to know whether they were muddy contiguous to each other, and communicating with each other, or were they at a distance? The Interpreter—His answer means more near than far, or more generally near than far. Your Lordships may take which you like.—(Laughter.) Mr. Brougham—l should submit to your Lordships - tint the Interpreter, who executes his duty so properly, had better al ways translate the answers as literally as possible when they have an ambiguous meaning. The question was repeated—More near than far from each other. Did they usually communicate ?—Yes. Were they generally separated from the rooms of the rest of the family ?—Yes. Who usually selected the bed rooms, her Royal High ness or Bergami ?—They both made a distribution of the chambers. Did they use to travel hi the same carriage ?—ln the jour ney to Bavaria. Do you mean also in the journey to Germany ?—I meant so. Was it the business of the witness to prepare the carriages and the things put into them ?—Yes. What part of the carriage did Bergami sit in Usually ? I don't recollect. Did you ever find a bottle in the carriage on any occr.sion ? —Yes. How was that bottle formed about the mouth ?—(Witness described it to have a large mouth, of several inches in diam ter, and indicated the size of it by placing his thumbs and forefingers stretched so as to form a circle.) [The remainder of the evidence with respect to the use which was made of this bottle we must omit.] Do you remember being at the Convent of St. Benedictine at St. Anasia?—Yes. Do you recollect seeing the Princess at breakfast there ? Yes. Did she breakfast alone ?—No, with Bergami. Do you recollect any thing being done by Bergami to the Princess ?-1 don't know. How long were you in the service of the Princess ?—Three years. I . Where did yon leave her ?—At Pesaro. Into whose service did you go then?—The Marquess d'Erba Odeschattsi. How long did you remain in Italy after learug her-at . Pesaro ?—I can't. tell. As near as you can tell ?—I think four or five months. Do you recollect to what inn you went with the Princess at Paria ?—I do not remember the name of it, but it is the inn on the tight hand as you go into Paria. Do you recollect while with the Princess at Naples, Ber gami being nut one evening on'horseliack, and the Princess asking for him ?—Yes, I recollect it very well. The Solicitor-General.—Your Lordships will allow me to remind you, that the witness entered the service of the Prin cess at Naples, and was with her there about a month, Was the Princess in her bed-room at that time ?—I don't know, because I was down in the court. Did you tell Bergami when he-came home, that the Princess wanted him ?—Yes. In consequence of your so telling him that the Princess wanted him, did be go up stairs to her ? • Mr. Brougham objected to this question. The Lord Chancellor was of opinion the question ought to be " where did he go ?" After that was communicated to him by the witness, where did Bergami go to? Witness was about to recite a conversation between himself and Bergami, when Mr. Brougham interfered, and objected to this as not being evidence. 1 hr Solicitor-General thought it might or might not be ' received. Lord Erskine said, that it could have no-connection what ever with the case, if it. only proceeded from the mouth of Bergami without the presence of the Queen. The Lord Chancellor said, that it might he evidence. Bat that it must be given on questions regularly put. The Solicitor-General said, he would put the question differently, so that the answer might be separated from the conversat ion.. After it 'had been communicated to Bergami that her Royal Highness wanted him, where did he go ?—To his own room. After be had entered his own room, what did he do as to the door of the room ?—Hi shut the door When he says that Bergami shut the door, does he mean that he merely put it too, or rlid he do any thing with the lock ?—He locked it. Do you recollect how long he was there ?—Three quarters of an hour or an hour. Did you see the Princess below during that period I—l did not. Witness in the former part of his examination being asked as to' the ariangement of the bed-rooms at d'Este, stated • some change to have taken place. Was that change made while her Royal Highness and 'Bergami were in Greece ?--it did happen then. Does he know what was the situation of the bed-rooms at d'Este after their return from Greece, and after the change had taken place ?—I remember it. Does he know whether they were near to each other, and whether there was a direct communication between them ? There was. 'Were the apartments of the rest of the household ate dis tance ?—They were more far. Was there any door, which being closed. Molt off all com munication from the rest of the house, with those apart ments which were so occupied by the Princess and Bergami ? —Yes, when the door was locked, then no one else could enter. Does witness recollect whet her for the purpose of making this communication, any alteration had been made in the wall ?—He does not remember. Was there a theatre at the Villa d'Este ?—There was. Did the Princess act at that theatre ?—She did. Did site act with Bergami ?—He has seen Beronti and the Princess act, but he has not remained during the whole per formance of the comedy. On their first arrival there, was the Princess usually visited by persons of distinction in that part of the country ?—I do not remember. Does witness remember a person of the name of Mahomet? —I do remember him. Of what country was he?—He was a native of Jaffa. Did he remain with them while the Princess was at d'Este ? Did he observe any exhibitions of Mahomet? Did Mahouiet 'main while the Princess was at Villa d'Este?—Yes. Did you observe him make any exhibitions there ? (Mr. Brougham objected to this question. Afterwards it was put as follows :—) Did witness remember Mahomet making any exhibitions while the Princess was present ?—Yes, gutochi (tricks.) Will witness describe what these ,rprochi were which were performed in the presence of the Princess ? [Here the witness endeavoured to do so, by bending his knees and sinking and rising in quick abet nations, putting np his hands, and snapping his fingers all the while. He also used sonie word as the name of this movement, which we could not gather correctly, but which the interpreter was going to explain, by saying that, in the East, this was a sort of dance.) (Here Mr. Brougham interrupted him, and the Interpre. ter said he could not translate the word ; the examination proceeded.) Let witness describe the guecki from beginning to end, let him describe all that Mahomet did. (Witness accordingly repeated his imitations, which the Interpreter said again be could not translate.—Mr. Brougham observed, it was easily translated by the word curtesy—at which several of their Lordships cried " No, no." flie In terpreter again addressed the House, and said, that as be could not translate the motion of witness, he bad desired the Solicitor-General himself to describe it.--(Much laugh ter.) How were the pantaloons prepared for perfottming the guochi f—They were moved backwards and forwards. Did he do any thing with his hands ?—1 hare not seen it. Was the position of trowsers the same as usual ?—Always. Were these guochi done more than once in the presence of the Princess ?—Yes. Was Bergami also present?---Heswas. Did the witness ever se4ie Princesi on the lake,ef Crop ~ NoKitt Bcyantis?-4-M• ti Albrie or not ?—AlObel Often alone ?—Many times. The Solicitor-General said he had no more questions to put. CROSS-EXAMINED BY MR. BROUGHAM. At a quarter past 11 the cross-examination was commenced by Mr. Brougham, the same interpreter continuing to act. The witness having stated in his examination that he had left the service of Genoa! Pino, he wished to know whether it was nut in consequence of having killed a horse I—No. Now you have told us that you left the service of General Pino. Pray was it not for killing a horse, or something of that sort ?—No. You never killed a horse in your life? —Never. Never told any body that .you had ?:Never. (A few cries of—. Oidtr" were heard when the last question was put.) Mr. Brougham appealed to their Lordships, if it was fitting that he should be admonished, as he proceeded in the dis charge of his duty, by cries of order. [A slight murmur ran through the House, and cries of— " Go on," and " There was no call to order," were heard.] What wages did you receive while in the service of General Pino?—Five and twenty pence. Per day ?—Per day. You did not find it enough, and went away on that account? —Witness left his service at Mantua during the blockade of that place. At the second table of the Queen's house at Naples, did you not, .sit with the servant of Sir W. Gell ?—1 do not re member. Do you remember the English servant of Mr. Keppel, another Gentleman of her Royal Highness's suite ? Did he dine at the second table ?—1 do not remember. Had either of those two Gentlemen servants at all, in her Royal Highness's family ?—They had. English servants 1-;--Yes, English, I believe, for thy always spoke English. Were they livery servants or servants on:. of livery?—They during every day did not wear livery, but during the great dinners he saw than in liveries—in uniforms. Was it the duty of the ordinary liver! servants to wait upon her Royal Highness ?—At table. Was it their duty also to wait on her Royal Highness at breakfast in the morning ?—No. Was it not the duty of the upper servants, including the courier, to wait upon her 'Royal Highness at breakfast ?—Yes. Doei he know Hyeronimus ?—Very Does he kno..v Camera ?—Yes. In her lsfajesty's house at Naples, where did Wtn. Austin sleep do not remember. Vi ill you swear that he did not sleep in the next room to her Royal Highness?—This cannot remember. What was the room next to that in which her Royal Highness slept?—There was a grand saloon; I have seen no of her. Where did Dr. Holland sleep ?—I cannot remember. Will he swear that there was no paisage by which her - Royal Highness could enter Bs:rotas room while he was confined by sickness, without going through the room in which this witness slept I—l have not seen any other passage. Will you swear there were no other passages ?—There was a grand saloon, after which canoe the apartment of her Royal Highness, and beyond that the re was a corridor. Will you swear that there was no other passage to the room of Bergami ?—1 cannot swear it, but I know of no other than that which I bare mentioned, and I can say no other than this. . Will you swear that there was no other communication but through this passage 1-1 cannot swear there is another; there might have been, but I have not seen any, and can only swear to this one. _ . Will you swear there was no other way in which any per son wishing to go from the Princess's room to Bergami's room could go, except through the cabinet?—There was another passage to go into the room of Bergansi. Without going into the cabinet ?—Yes. Where did Hyeroninius sleep I—l do not remember. Where did Sir W. Gell's servant sleep 1-1 don't re member. _ _ _ Nor where Mr. Craven's servant slept ?—I don't remew ber. Where did Dame Dumont sleep ?—I don't remember. Not any of the other servants?-4 do not know. Where did the Queen's maid sleep ?—I do not know. Where did the other maid sleep ?—I do not know. Was it not a very severe accident which Bergami met. with front the kick of the horse?-1t was so severe that he could not go on horseback. Was it not so severe that he was obliged to keep his room ? —I cannot say, asp have no knowledge of the illness. Was it not so severe that your bed was put in the cabinet for the first time to wait on him ?—Yes. Did he go out a walking ?—I cannot know whether he could walk. Did you see hint walk out, as usual, every day about the streets ?—I don't recollect. Will you swear you ever saw hint walk out during his ill nets ?—1 do not recollect. Did you ever go into his room during the time of his ill. ness .?—I went to look at him. • Did you frequently go into his roost ?—Often. Did you then find him walking up and down ?—This don't remember. Was he attended by any medical man ?—I don't recollect. Did you not see her Royal Highness go into the room of Hyeronimus, when he too was ill, to ask after his health ? I don't remember. Have you not seen her Royal Highness go into the room of Sir WM.II to ask after his health, when he was ill ?—I don't recollect. Was it not the constant practice of her Royal Highness to go constantly into the rooms of her attendants when ill, to see after them ?—I do not recollect. You never happened to be ;ill yourself at Naples ?—No. Did her Royal Highness make the slightest difference be tween the highest and the lowest of her attendants, in ask ing after their health, when ill? The Solicitor-General objected to these questions. This was aisuming that these persons bad been ill. Mr. Brougham justified his questions. The Lord Chancellor was of opinion that the witness ought to be asked whether these persons were ill within the wit ness's recoil ection,before he could he asked whether her Royal Highness visited them. Mr. Brougham.—Then I will alter it. Cross-examination resumed. Were all the domestics of her Royal Highness, high and low, all in perfect health while she was at Naples ? Did Dr. Holland never attend any person while at Naples ?—I do nut recollect any other person being attended but Berganii during that tall. Ido not recollect any others. But not during the fall. Was any other person attended by D r . flolland at any time while you were at Naples ?—I do not recollect. What sort of bed did you sleep on Us the cabinet when you attended Bergarili ?—A mattress. No curtains ?—No; quite open. When her Royal Highness went from Naples to Rome in Match, English persons were with her ?—Dr. Ho iatil,lBalssfatiAa.liaslt remember, Hyeronimus. Was not Lady Charlotte Lindsay with her ?—Do you mean a small tiny Lady, for I do not know their names. Were there one or two English Ladies with her I—l have seen one; the little thin one, I have seen and remember. Did one or both of the English Ladies go from Naples to Rome with her Royal Highness ?—Madatne Falconet alone. The mother and two daughters ?—the mother was stated to be the wife of Falconet, the banker at Naples. Was she an English Lads ?—1 don't know. DM she speak English .? I think she spoke French ; did not hear her talk English. Did she take her two daughters with her to Rome ?—1 don't recollect. Did you ever see those two daughters in the Queen's house with their mother at Naples I—No. I)i4 you see them with their mother at any time?—l'es; on the beginning of the journey to Rome. What age were they 1-1 can't recollect. Were they young children or young ladies ?—I don't re collect. The Lord Chancellor interposed.—The witness must finish his answer. • (The question repeated.)—Young Did you see Lady Charlotte Lindsay, or any other person heside Lady Falconer, when her Royal Highness left Naples? —I don't recollect. Did you ever see more than one English lady in her house hold at once I—l don't remember. I don't know. Mr. Brougham interposed, and said the answer did not mean " I don't know." The Interpreter said, if he was wrong, there was an Interpreter on the other side who was sworn, and who would correct Mr. Cohen was now called by Mr. Brougham, and said tbe answer meant " 1 don't remember." The witness said he meant '• 1 do riot recollect to havese e° that." You gave us an account yesterday of having knocked 0 1 night at Bergami's door at Genera, se loudly that he fl have heard you, but you did not hear any mister ?—Yes. What sort of people were they that cameltuto the hour then thVade yonsinock up je Baton ?—That was the when tl heft was oNlel-when the robbgts came. .Was mi l i\the Mary thati: waVpart of your fried gang. O rder., order T) • The Solicitor-General...4 object to that question as tl d most irregular that can be put. You assume he was the frig° of a gang. Mr. Brougham.—He was the leader—he was the peil l ! I mover.—(Order, order !) The Lord Chancellor.—Nobody can doubt that it is ti3 o irregular.—(Hear, hear !) Mr. Brougham.-1 will take it in detail. Did you look out of the window ?—Yes, and saw a tall per son, and took a gun and fired upon this person. A Noble Lord in the Gallery moved that the Counsel ad Agents do withdraw. Cries of—" NVithdraw, withdraw !" The same Noble Lord.—l wish to know if Sir William Ge ll be a witness summoned on either side? The Lord Chancellor.—He is a witness summoned on the part of the Queen. The same Noble Lord.—l wish to know if he he present. Sir William Gell was now pointed out below the bar. The same Noble Lord.—l understood it wa s . ordered, the, the witnesses on neither side should be allowed to be present . Several Noble Lords now commented on the presence of , William Gell in defiance of that order; and, after a 00 0 debate, an order was made, that nu witness who was. so per, sent in future should be examined on either side, withow special leave from,the House. Mr. Brougham resumed his cross-examination. After the robbers attacked the house, and you fired as ye' described, was not the whole house alarmed at what 111 taken place ?-4 immediately ran to knock at the door, au', on coming down stairs, I found all the people collected tlg' coming down. Did you see any one with a drawn sword in his hand ea that occasion ?-1 cannot remember that. Was Captain Hownam there ?-1 don't remember. Was Hieronyinus?-1t was all the family; but I can't see, if he in particular was there. Bergami was these, was he not ?—Yes, he saw him. How long after the first alarm did witness knock at Berge. mi's door I—ln abut three minutes. In three minutes after he fired the piece ?—Yes. i When you found Bergami did not answer your knocking the door, did you open it to see if he was there ?—No, I ds' pot open the door, but Bergami again came down in about* quarter of au hour after, tasking a great noise as h e cant' down. here were you placed when you are pleased to say Bee gami came out ? The Interpreter.—lt is impossible for me to put it, " whir 'you are pleased to say ;" I shall put it, " when you saw Der garoi come out, where did you stand?" The question was repeated.—Where were you placed wilco, you are pleased to say you saw Bergami come out ? I knockel: at his door, there was no answer, and I went down stairs ; al! the family were coming out, and Bergami came out in abuts' a quarter of an hour after. How soon after witness fired the piece did h e see Bergaulf and the rest of the household come out ?—1 fired, and ran t° Bergami's room; I knocked louder and louder; I received i' answer, and when I came back again, all the family wer e collected, and I cried out " Rob bers, - robbers ! are in the house." I remained there, and the people returned. How long were you knocking at Bergami's door ?—A time, and louder and louder., Did you go below from Bergami's door ?—I went to th e room where the robbers had been. Where did you first see Bergami after that time ?—ln the same room when I returned, and where the robbers ha"' been. Were you at the Braganza with the Queen ?—I was. What room was next to the Queen's in that house ?-1 11 1 great saloon, and a room which led to that of her Roys , Highness. What other room was next, on any other side of the. Queen's room, except the great saloon ?—There was Quist° . sides a window, and on the third side other rooms. Was there not a room usedfor sitting in,, which commu cated with the Queen's room, on the side you speak of? —" , do not know what use the rooms were made of. Where did Hieronymus sleep?—Nora mi ricordo; (I don remember.) Where did Captain Hownaiu sleep ?—Non mi aeon/0; (/ don't remember.) Was William Austin there ?—He was. Was Hieronymus?—He was. Was Camera ?—Yes. Was Vitcorine ?—Non mi ricordo. Did the child always sleep in the Princess's room; o r gene; rally, after she was taken by her, did she Sleep in her ruoll3 • Non mi ricordo. Do you know if Vittorine lived in any other part of the house, or of the ship, than in the room of the Princess ? rud mi ricordo. Was Vittorine generally, or always with the Queen ? The Interpreter on putting the question said, he does no* understand the commonest word, and I can't explain to bid', I beg ten thousand pardons, but I cannot make bits compre bend. Mr.Brougham—Never mind, we shall notice thatafterwardo, Will yon swear you ever saw Vitturine sleep in the ship, o_f in thc house, but where the Queen was ?—1 sometimes saw , her sleep, when her Royal Highness was above, under O f pavilion, sometimes -down below with her Royal Hightwor , and sometimes in the room where was the Dante criforectetio Who do vou mean by the lady of honour ?—Countess Do you know who beside yourself ever saw Vittovine stetP out of the room of her Royal Highness ?—Questo non scio don't know.) Did you ever see Vittorine in a room, and in a bed, which her Royal Highness was not to steep that night ?-1 1 1 Interpreter putting the question, said, the witness does o ut , understand good language ; I shall put it to him as well as can. • Here he repeated the question, to which the witness rr plied, I have never seen her. Did a Mr. Burrell, an English gentleman, go to Venice wit ' her Royal Highness at the time you speak of?—Non ini , cordo (I don't remember). Do you recollect a gentleman of that name being in Royal Highness's family ?—Yes, for a short time: Where and when ?—At Villa Villani, where we were, 104 • also at Milan. At Boromeo ?—Non scio (don't know). At Venici ?—Non mi ricordo. The second time you went to Genoa was not the arranV'' • ment of the rooms the same as before with respect to those; the Princess and Bergami ?—The Princess went to Genoa ool s once, then she came frum Naples. The second time she We" on board a ship. At D'Este was the disposition of the rooms of the Princes and Bergami the same as before ?—They were not. o f Was there not a staircase or a landing-place on one sid e the Princess's room ?—There was a small corridor on the le"' on one of the rooms oti which the door was genet ally or ri. Going further 01.1, on the same side, there was a small c abine' another door opening into a room where they supped of evening. SeP l Did it communicate with the room where the Queen St,.' • on one side, and with that of her maids on the other '---APL• (beyond) the supper-room there was a room where Bert: m— s slept; the supping-room was on the right, from wheogo Il door led into Bergami's room, and in the room was a so° alcove, where was the bed of the maids. How many doors were in the small room where th e ! , supped ?—I can only recollect two doors that I al war ‘ 3 open. 'Where did the maids sleep ?—On the other side, in anoth tlis. quarter. Where did Dr. Holland sleep ?—I don't know. How did the maids get at the room of her Royal Highn e li by what passage ?—Through the small corridor, they con go that way. n isr Upon the journey, when het Royal 1-14thness used t o the witness has said, her practice was to travel by ,1 4 . it, a . . rest during the heat of the day ?—Yes. Did her Royal Highness ride on that journey?—Yes. On horseback ?—Yes. About how many hours was she on horseback daring 101:1e; course of the night ?—She mounted the horse in the eve" a t s on-set, and dismounted at sun-rise in the niornitnt.- For about how many hours, I am not particular as to an hour ?—Non ricordo. • e l t Was she four hours ?—I cannot recollect, I had "' llr and don't know. rid ° Will you take upon rot' t o swear she did not oft en eight hours without stopping ?—quest', ricallo. es, Was it not cust o m ar y a ft er r idi ng fo r h e r Royal 1444 11" 1 0 , to throw herself on the sofa as if tired ?—I do not rewe i t ll o f r Did not you sle e p f req u en tly or res t du r ing the day the inner and outer tent where her 7.tuyAl Highness " 'a in g repose ?—Yes, I and Carlin',. „ Was not that the regular place of resting for both of 1" 1 x I 41 14 ft(