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Ipr-fitting her exalted rank at a time like tbe pre sent, when she was called upon to deiced herself against charges of the most 'veinal's nature. The public would feel that it was ungen erous, he would not say to limit her allowance, but to deny her that which site ought to have as Queen. it was Dot for him to say what step the House ought to take, but be could scarcely believe it possible that they would exclude one Member of the House of Brunswick from all participation in the provision made for the rest of the Royal Family, still lets Mould be suppose that they would keep her Ma jesty a pensioner on the Govetnment because this might happen to suit the views of Ministers. He did not wish to do any thitig to connect the bn siaess now in progress with that subject which he had thus brooght under the consideration not• the unese. He was not then prepared to su'imit a, motion to the noose, but in the Cdromittee he lai . glit probably move that the Chaitutan should leave the Chair, report progress, and ask leave to sit on a future •day to give Ministers titne to cur the omission ,of whiell they had been guilty, and afford II em an opportunity of reconsidering what he 0)01101 the abaurdity of their conduct, and to enable the noose deliberately to resolve bow far they would sanction it. Lord CAart.s.stgaoo worweted, he said, a t th e sentiments of surprise expressed by the Noble . Lord at haviilg no provision now proposed for the Queen. There world he much greater teason for surprise it any a Ifel) Application was made to Parliament upon the tirrsent occso.ion: The other , ground of complaint taken by the Noble Lord was, that her Majesty receive - td money without•the sanc tion of Parliament. NVith respect to personal in convenience, every step was taken to obviate any of a pecuniary nature. As to the expences that might be occasioned by the inquiry, he did not feel at liberty to mention what had been deter " mined on relative to that subject. It did not, however, escape the attention either of his Met. • jest) or the Government ; and it was intimated, that her Majesty would have the means of tow ing any expences that may be thrown on her There was no disposition in any quarter to ex pose her to pecuniary inconvenience, and least of all in the highest quarter. As to the manner in which her Majesty was now suppliA, the consti tutional feats of the Noble Lord may be quieted, • when he learned that the resolution of last yes. ' sion, with respect to her Majesty's provision,was still in force, and would continue so to the sth of July. It would be time enough for his constitutional jealousy to awake, if after that day any money was advanced without the authority of Parliament The last time the Noble Lord put a question on this subject, he (Lord C.) certainly did contemplate making a proposition relative to her Majesty,when provision was to be made for the other branches of ihe Royal Family. He then, however, thought, that on consubation with her legal advisers, her Majesty would be induced to act in such a way as would render the inquiry unnecessary, and spate So vaintul a task. The papers laid upon the table would show, that a pecuniary provision was one of the points in discussion, and from them also it would appear, that her Majesty desired pe cuniary consideration should form no part of the negociation. Jr was the business of the Clown, acting by the advice of Ministers, to send down any proposition of this nature to the House. The Noble Lord travelled out of his functions, as •a Member of Parliament, by spewing a disposition to initiate any thing of the kind. It was rather unusual with the Representatives of the People to clamour for the introduction of pecuniary grants. It was not convenient to agitate the ques tion of a fixed provision, till they knew in what light her Majesty was to be tegarded. The Right Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Tierney) would recollect, that upon a former occasion he said he %yogic) not be disposer: to vote one shilling till the result of the inquiry was known, till it was ascer tained whether there was itny ground for charge or too. Curler all the circumstances of this painful case, he hoped the House would perceive that the best way was to relieve her Majesty (ruin all pe cuniary difficulties for the present, and wait till it was known in what situation she was to be re . garded, and what permanent provision could be recommended. Lord A. HAMILTON complained of unfairness on the part of the Noble Lord, and reminded the House that he hail offered to sit down at the coin mencement of his speech if Ministers would state it to be their intention to propose a provision for her at any period of the present Session'. The Noble Lord said it was time enough for his con stitutional jealousy to break forth after the sth of July should have arrived. The Noble Lord seem edto consider that it would have made a great difference if he had brought forward this subject on the day after to-morrow, instead of on that day. The Noble Lord was right in supposing that her Majesty was no party to bringing this subject before the House, but it appealed to a strange per B reition of intellect that could assume that her Majesty, because she had excluded the consideration of money matters in the late confe rences, war content to become the pensioner of Ministers, instead of owing a suitable provision to the liberality of Parliament. He considered the Course pursued towards her Majesty to he ,improper, end wished the Noble Lord to leant from those opposed to bins, that every person ill this triustry pending trial was to be consideied innocent. Mr. TIERNEY admitted, that it was true he had teiti he would not vote for a grant to the Queen till her real situation was ascertained. The No ble Lord had said, that he spoke on the mere rot/route then afloat. This was not exactly the case, fur he had spoken with reference to the omission of her name in the Liturgy. He was Surprized at the course now pursued by the Noble • Lord with respect to the Queen. He did expect drat when any arrangement was proposed for the rest of the Royal Family, that some no tice would be taken of her Majesty, though - be did not say that this was the time for making a permanent provision. The Queen was placed in an extraordinary situation. It was true, as the Noble Lord bad said, that no provision could he made for her, but in conse quence of a communication from the Crown. No message, however, had yet strived. Was it yet to jetty would be continued:J-4) ! he was happy to, hear that some provision was to . be made for her He glad to learn, too, that any slim necesary to enable her to provide for her defence would be supplied. He did not know that such a course bad hitherto been taken. 'He rather thought th e practice of the House_ 114 been to.tnake good any expellees incurred ; but . iiNvhsteveit'Avisy shs we% supplied with the means of making her defence, so she were but supplied with them, he should be perfectly satisfied. He then briefly noticed the grants proposed in favour of the other members of the Royal Family. The Duke of Clarence, he remarked, leas paced in a worse situation than any of Isis Royal Relations, and :hooalst it .would be well if his ircumstonc , s could he made more racy. He pointed out the different situation in which Plince Leopold was placed, but remarked, the amiable conduct of that ,Illostrioos Personage merited from the nation all that had.been dooe for him. Lori CASTLEREAGH repeated it %?3‘ the object of the Crown to felliO•e ttty pecuniary difficulties that her Majesty •might feel as to income, and to afford her every facility for makinK lwr defence. With this view she would be eitmbk() to meet any expet , ces that might arise. He . 1)(1: stated that up to the sth at July, a'grant duthority of parliament %could he in existenc e 3" alter that period it would he time enough to manifest any constitutional jealost•y of Ministers., An ap iilication would be made to Pdrliantent to provide for the objects of which he had spoken ; bat this was not the time for making a-permanent arrangement. Mr. DVNMAN begged to say on the subject be. (ore the House that the Qom! had not autho rised any thing of the sort to be agita.ed hi Par liament, for she had never doubted that that Muse would afford her the means of vindicating her character, and that the attendant expence would be provided for from some (parses or other. One feeling, more !Ilan any coosideration'of ex pence, operated out her Majesty's mind. The ex pence,hoieerer,he nin,t retnalk, would,pt obahl y he very considerable. What, bowever,she feared more than expence was the inter' . erence of Foteign Powers. She had reason to believe that some Foreign Powers, Aus•ria in particular, had a!- ready contributed to that persecution of which she had so much reat•on to complain. Lord CASTLEREAGH said, no Foreign Power would be invite►l or suffered on the p.►rt ►►f this Government ; and he had no doubt that F►►reign Governments, from regard for themselves in point of character, would - abstain tiont Offeting to in terfere on such an occasi►►n• The Resolution was carried. (For the remainder of the Proceedinp of the House of Com mons. see the Fourth Pagel PRIVATE AND AUTHENTIC CORRESPONDENCE. PARIS, Juice 30.—1 s is always the system of the Demagogues, in and out of Parliament, to proclaim them selves the organs of the nation and public opinion ; even Messrs. Thistleumod and Co. boasted of this; in common with Sir FnANCIs BURDETT and Co. and they were all equally right. In France, .Messrs. DE COVSTANT, MANVEL, FAY, and Co. take the same ground ; they declare themselves the representative_organs of 29 millions of people impatient to be free; they say so, and they surely are honourable men, and they have the greater merit in thus gratuitously catching colds and consumptions by over exertion, as the 29 millions they represent are so ungrateful as to let their advocates and tutors be ruined in the attempt to instruct them. A few months since, we had l'Howne Grit, La Bibliotheque Nista ripe, Les Leltres Normandes, La Minerve, &c. &c. which rivalled each other in the noble design of instructing the people in their rights; and so well paid were those masters, that the eight proprietors of the Minerve boasted of clearing 10001. per annum each. Of all those excellent works not one remains. The nation fancies its education finished, and has dismissed its masters. Still there remain the liberal daily Papers. We had the Journal Gencral, alias the Independent; the Comrlitutionel, alias the Journal de Commerce; the I'i lute, alias —, the name it was about to assume when it foundered; the ilristarque,the licnommee (M. de CoNsrafgr's Paper), the Censeur, the Courtier, &c. Alas ! where are they? The independent and the Censeur could 'not get readers to pay for paper and print, and they joined .their forces, but with no better success. The proprietors of the Courri,r threw up their shares of 3000 francs each, to avoid new calls, and M. KtRATRY (whose disappointed hopes made him desert the Ministry, as be had deserted hit'old friends the Liberals), became we believe sole Editor and Proprietor ; but, alas! the tide still ran against success, and at the pre sent moment, the Indepotrknt, Censeur, and Courricr, are all united under the latter title, which, with this additional aid, now counts 875 subscribers. The ficrefreantere is sus pended by Government ; it was a seryice- rendered to the Proprietors, who lost ten pounds per , day by it, and only prolonged its equivocal existence through pride.— All, the other Liberal Papers are gone to tile, tomb of the Capnlets, except the Censeitutionei, which sells about 1300. What a terrible thing that the spirit of liberty should be at such a low ebb that a population of 29 millions - can only maintain, and that on bread and water, two Journals specially devoted to its interests ! ! But to be serious : these facts speak more in favour of the spirit of peace, and the hatred of factions that pervade all classes of Society in the great mass, than any arguments either in or out of the House. The people has been so deceived by its pretended defenders that it will no longer listen to any thing they say; and of the 2,200 liberal Papers printed daily, 1800 are distributed in Paris, and calculating Paris at 1 million, it leaves 28,000,000 of souls, for whom 400 Opposition Papers suffice, or one to every 70,000 souls. Yet these worthies will still talk in the name of the Nation ! ! ! The Desksi-DEcitzes leaves Paris in a few days for London. CONNOISSEURS IN PINK will be gratified to bear that the Annual Slew of Pioks for the /de of Wigl►t was held at the Grapes Bowling Green, Newport, on Wednesday, the 28th ult. and was supposed to be unrivalled by any in England. After the Umpires had reported their decision, the Subscribers (nearly 50 in 'lumbar), partook of a sittuptuons dinner, enlivened with songs, glees, ; nor did these Pinks of good -fellowship se parate until Aurora . blushed _upou the festive LONLON JOUI‘NALS, [DAILY EXTII,ICTS.I FROM THE MORNING- PAPERS OF TIM DAY: [Morning Chronicle.] TEI E. QUEEN, &c: k Omits Report of ilieSeeret Coinnitttee of tfit Lords heih presented, Mr. Canning will resign. It is understood, that on signifying this intention, the Right Honourable Gentle man offered himself as the medium of communication between her Majesty and Ministers, with a view to some adjustment, honourable to all the Illustrious Parties concerned. Letters, it is also stated, have passed between her Majesty and Lord Liverpool, in which the Queen stated, that she was ready to receive any written communication, or to see any person who might he disposed to wait upon her. Lord Liver pool replied, that he had no proposition to submit. Sir Wm. Grant, however, waited on the Queen yesterday evening, when her Majesty declared she had no proposal to matte, but was happy to receive those who might wait up - on The Queen also wrote to Lord Liverpool fur a suitable resi dence. His Lordship in reply, said, that if her Majesty would point out any house which she wished to occupy, her appli cation should he submitted to the King. Her Majesty then pointed out the house in Str„tford•place, which had been iu the occupation of the Foreign Princes, herause, as she ext• pressed herself, she eoneelveil that this house belonged to Government, and Lon.d be obtained Without putting the pub lic to any espence. Lord Liverpool rcitlied, that the house in question had ceased to belong to Government, and could nut now Ire procured, but reqnested her Majesty to point out some other situation which she might conceive to be eligible. Here, as we understand, the matter now rests. [British Press] The Public will perceive by the Queen's Answer to the Address of the Livery of London, that it is her Majesty's wish never again to leave this country. The affectionate regard, approaching indeed in many instances to an enthusiastic de votion to her person, which the people in general have evinced towards her Majesty since her arrival in England, must prove extremely gratifying to her feelings, and cannot fail of consults); her under her present painful sufferings. Her Majesty finds in it not a consolation only, but a pro tection, and she aiust perceive the striising difference, so far as her own personal respect ahility and happiness isle concern ed, between a lesidence in this country among her warm hearted, affectionate subji.cts, and an abode among secret enemies or doubtful friends, in countries where she could neither hope for popular favour, or expect protection from the Government. It was a great misfortune to her Majesty that she had ever listened to the advice of those who per suaded her to resign the safeguard of the public eye of this country, and seek for happiness in Foreign States. She is now aware of the danger of a foreign residence, and will not, we trust, be so ready to yield to such advice again. [Morning Herald.] The Report of the Lords' Secret Committee will certainly Le made this day, and the charges agairist the Queen will be put forthwith in a course of trial. The rumours on this sub ject are so numerous, so various, so inconsistent with the aqua' position of the parties, and pretend to knowledge,,tho disclosure of which reaches to such a pitch of mural impossi- bility, that we perhaps should heat perform our duty by tailing of them no notice whatever. An adsust went, .we are told, is still expected—and it is stated that communications have taken place between the Queen and Lord Liverpool. How is adjustment possible in the present stage ? We are fully con vinced, in common with every person of. sense and candour whose opinion we have heard on the subject, that the time for conciliation ii now gone by. Mr. Caoming, it is further reported, has resigned, and offered his mediation in his pri vate capacity, and Sir W. Go - ant waited upon the Queen. It is certain, however, that no proposition) has been made 611 either ►ide. The Report of the Committee this evening, will remove much, if not the whale, of the uncertainty that pre vails ; and in the short interval we shall abstain irons specn- lation whet e certainty it so near. [Morning Post] The Report of the Secret Committee of the House of Lords, we understand, was yesterday finally prepared, and will be presented this day. In this event, the Report will probably be taken into consideration on Wednesday or Thursday and on the decision of the House will the ulterior process be founded. In the discussions which preceded the appoint ment of this Committee, not only were these views very strangely overlooked, but even distorted ; and it was asto nishing to hear Noble Lords, such as Grey, Holland, and others, men themselves of exalted rank and dignified sense of what is inspired by station, argue as if it were pos.ible that such a body of persons could act dishonourably. The bare suspicion seems to us to he a libel on mankind. But if this supposition was degrading in itself, it was equally in compatible with the argument that the opinion delivered by the Committee would more than prejudice—would prg; judge the cause. A Report emanating from fifteen Peers either is of great weight, or it is not; 'if it be of great - weight, then the attempted depreciation of the parties was injurious and unworthy; if it be of no weight, t hen all the objections to the course of proceeding were a senseless array in fighting a shadow. Another inconsistency, hardly descrt/- . ing of being mentioned, is observable in the whole reasoning against a secret initiatory inquiry by those who deplored so earnestly any public disclosures; and a still more flagrant in stance in the perverse obstinacy with which it has been insisted to call that a trial which is in fact not even the' fir-t step of a trial (for it may say that none is necessary), and cannot by possibility be more. Having thus shown generally the rela tive situation of the issue, we might much strengthen our po sition by citing individually the Members of the Committee, and on every name putting it to the most jealous and un charitable breasts to declare, if there were a fair founda tion for doubt and discredit. The Archbishop of Caoterhury —what being ever heard a whisper against bins In an office exposed to much observance, having many conflicting interests to note his slightest departure from liberal and Christian principles; never yet have the Clergy of his own communion, or Dissenter of any sect, uttered a syllable against him. The Lord Chancellor—the just and scrupulous Judge, in whose most conscientious life nut even faction has ever discerned a stain. The Lord President—of high and unblemished honour. The Dukeof Beaufort, the Duke of Nor thumberland, the Earl of Hardwicke.—t he very names guar ranters of faithful and upright conduct. The Earl of Liverpool —a man who may be said to complete almost a miracle, by being the third Prime Minister in succession—whose peisonal disinterestedness and purity wi re universally confessed—the completion of the immortal triumvirate of litt, Perceval, and Liverpool. It is only to spare repetition that we do not particularize the rust of the Committee—nut one of whom us not a gage for justice its its justest form. This we say at a period when their decision hying yet nukuown, we can hay it without risk of imputation that our estimate is THEATRICAL REGISTER. Performed Latt Night. THEATRE ROYAL, Muff RY-LANY..—The Merchant of Viole t ' After which ; Giovanni in London. 'THEATRE CoveNaucx.—Henri Quatre. -- which, The Miller and s Men. • THEATRE RoYAL, Time), b 8 OPE* HOUSE.--Otill Promissory Not After vogifth, Amateurs attil'ictors which was Autllitl7W)ie' Blind !toy. - PRICE lii THIS 110Af AT I si per Cent. Tied... 69 681 69 Si per Cent 7711 4 per Cents .... 3 per Cent. Scrip. think Lung Ann. 17i 15-16ths_ .POCKS ONE 0 Cl..siCK I'll 3 Hen& 21 s. t 29. P t ' Exch. Bills, 9(1 . 9!. 41. P r ' Otortium Cons. for Account tleatvtio-2 Dnhlin, 2 Waterford, 1 Holland, 1 tisbfollet, Dug-1 Guernsey and Jersey, 1 Gottenburgla, 1 Hanabta 1 Flanders., •. ' HIGH WATER AT LONDoN BRIDGE TO•MORROW. Morning, 26 minutts after 9.— Et 1 minute a lto- THE SUN. IGLEM QUIS ULLERI FAI.SU%I AU tlkAt ? LONDON, TUESDAY, JULY 4, 1820. We received last night, the Paris Papers Friday last. Those of Saturday, which were ' III ! this morning, have not arrived The Moni lea ' publishes officially the Election Projet as ala i ' In the Chamber of - Deputies, on Thursday, a lif t port was made on a Petition respecting violati °° committed at Senegal of the law for the abol iti°o of the slave trade, which, after some dif•cusg i°ll ; was referred to the Minister of the Marine, a ° the Keeper of the Seals. The Projet respec t 4 the Legion of Honour was agreed to, 133 to 29 : anti the further consideration of the Budget 'llse postponed till - 14'iIday. The triaViespecting national subscription commencol on Thurs ( l before the Court of Assizes, an was RaiiOn rij till Friday. The following are Extracts Pants, JUNK 30.—The King yesterday treat, acted business successively with the_Cotint Sho e° /1‘ the Marquess de Latour Manbourg, an d the P 1 de Richelieu. The Duke Decazes was prese t.' to Monsieur, end to the Duke and Duchess d'iP# gouleme. M. Villemain, Master of Requests, is to P teed to London, as Secretary of Embassy. ( 4 . General Grouchy had on Wednesday on. dience of the Mike d'Angonleme. 1 ,31/ Several young men, arrested during,th e , • • disturbances at Paris, have been set at libeiti# " e King gave a private audience on °l 'd nesday to the Duchess Deca z es, who pres e°t ; 'her sou to his MAjesty. The King a lso Wa il the Duke Decazes itLthe evening.. FIVE PER CENTS. Thursday . 77f. 15e. DI:PERRSD STOCK Of the 224 March, 1820 92 1. 35 c. 10 1 " MADRID, JUNK 20.—The Commissiol'er,o, the Juntas of Amigo!), Asturias, Gs varre, and San Fernando, have presented 0 " p p i t dress to the Kiug, complaining of malcoote who denounce every where the existenc e desirous P" nk Republican party, that are of es a Republican Government ; and declaring t or , wish to have no other than an hereditary Nl° Weal Govesnruent." New York Pdpers arrived this morning 8.11 of June. 1 4(4 FUR'riiEit PARTICULARS OF THE REVOLT- -° BUENOS BYRES. a' The following particulars are from the g' Ares Gazette of the 2d March : p i riP' " It would be in opposition to the n ett ciples established to continue the Ministerins,l, have represented the late Government Until the Gene:al Congress shall fix t he !et' upon which we are to treat with Foreign l'`)`.0,111 no Province is -authorized to maintain rel3o bt t' which shall prejudice the other. This sc °ll to continue the alattniog and odious de rdc e (le of Capital. These just considerations termined . the Government to recall the P elj o rr , that were sent to the'Courts of England, 14'30r/ ° and Brazils, declaring null and void the 11i(d and instrticitions which they may have relvelord 'from the late Congress. On the 1 0 th of ;000/ a small boat arrived at Monte Video, troll Ayres, with an account of another Ite °lll brought about by the party opposed to d ttd late Treaty. They di,placed - Solotell" co e put Genet al BALcaecE at the head o f Or 009eii vernment. This is said to hate be et) . 4 0 cc: o' ot c y the demands of the Allies, that the rr°fdi isor Buen:)s Ayres should ji i tt them i„ the % 0 .0 . the Portuguese, and in consequetice of s ' 4° o intr' suppl)ing theta %%ill arms. A fe w (1445 olPteilt) v m o° 4 ~ ards, inloration arristd of the ° f ha‘ing urned and taken potsession 111 1 °- 110 Ayres. Their force did not consist of W er e, 1000 to 1200 men, but as they wo e l et er a received by the loNer classes, (beyfe l t opposition, It was suspected that the 00,1 soldiers veere guilty of great excesses, terl"°r. the City was in great confusion and I's I • iebec Npers also arrived this ( 16 Y• for Q rellencv Sir P. MALTLAND's proclaniati fief Writ s .I nd tl ix tep .th e • tOk lot a i (11 th, taht: but t tw iny 'tiote; •4 of c ThOtt tioh, out I ent, to , 11 41 1 gr, li g MI n 1 ( of Inc o, t!~ k