The Sun. — London, England, 1842-02-09 00:00:00

ORNING SUN food enough—(Hear)—because it would compel the land lords -.to bring the powers of the land into operation. It would force them to expend that capital in the improvement of the land, which they now spent on the Continent.—(Cheers. ) They would not now cultivate all the land they might in some instances. They refused to let corn be cultivated on the land because they could not get the price they wanted for it, whereas, if the Corn-laws were repealed, it would be their interest to produce as much, and at as cheap a rate as possible, —( Loud cheering.) Then there was another argument which had been urged by the bread-taxers with great ingenuity. What should we do in time of war, they asked? It was necessary for the safety of the country to be independent of foreigners for a supply of food during war. His answer to that was in the. first -place, that commerce was a good means of preventing war altogether. --(Cheers.) Nations were ace tuated by much the same motives as individeals. If you vex me I. will vex you. So was it with the different Governments of Europe!England had sett a glorious example to the world iu the abolition of negro slavery.—(Cheers.) The other nations of Europe had followed it—(Cheers.) Let her new set them the example of removing . restrictions frhm the food of the people.—(lmmense cheering.) [A cry was raised at the end of the room that Mr. O'Connell was comings and the Right Hon. and Learned Gentleman imme diately 'made his appearance. He was greeted with loud cheering as he walked up to the platform, on his reaching which some one in the bode of the meeting called out, " Three cheers for Mr. O'Connell." This call was responded to with the greatest enthusiasm. When the cheering had somewhat subsided, Mr. Falvy continued. j He u - a e no believer in witchcraft ; he was not a superstitious man, yet he could not but hail it as a happy omen that at the moment lie was complimenting - them upon their success in abolishing Negr, o Slavery, the Right Hon. the Lord Mayor of Dublin should enter the room.—(Hear, and much cheering , .), Their cause must prosper.—(Cheer s .) every accidental circumstance told in their favour.—( Cheers. ) He was telling them of the glorious example they had set in the abolition of negro slavery; let them set another, and never rest until they had obtained the abolition of taxes on food. —(Loud cheers.) The landlords did not think of being independent of foreigners, when they wanted their silks, their carpets, their spiees.—( Hear, hear.) It was only where the toed of the people was concerned that this excuse was set up. Now let them look at the fact. We were at war in 1810 with France, and with all Europe, and although the ports of the Continent were then shut against our com merce, yet those who ranted our manufactures took them, and we obtained 30Q,000 quarters of wheat from France aeone—from Fiance :the county with which we were at war during that year—(Cheers)—and we obtaieed during that year 1,500,000 quarters of wheat from the rest of Europe. This showed that where it was the interest of nations to trade together, it was not in the power of despotism to prevent them. Even the haughty Napoleon, in highest power, was unable to pre vent it. He would not take up more of their time and attention, but conclude by cordially thanking them, on behalf of himself and Of the operettas-es of England, for the position they had taken up that day. They were by their conduct adding to the sta bility of the empire, and they would transmit their names to posterity as the benefactors of mankind—(Cheers). He begged leave to add that he gave his most cordial support to the reso lution. . The resolution was then put from the chair, and carried amidst loud and continued cheering. The CHAIRMAN next said, thet the Executive Committee to whom they had committed the power of regulating the order in which the business would be brought forward, had- come to a preliminary resolution. It was to the effect, that for the orderly conducting of the business of the Conference, the Committee recommend that each person de sirous of addressing the Conference should send up his name to the Chairman ; that each person be called on in the order in width their names were sent up, without at the same time ex cluding the right of each member to address the Conference. The CHA IRMA N next observed that it was the better course, that as this was the first day of the Conference, the proceed ings should riot be protracted to any great length ; he would, therefore, call on Mr. Dixon, of Carlisle, .to move an adjourn ment.—( Cries of "Mr. O'Connell," " The Lord Mayor of Dublin," and much cheering. ) Mr. O'Coe NELL then came forward, anti was received with the istost enthusiastic cheers. On the restoration of silence the Right lion. and Learned Gentleman said, that he felt too much flattered by the kindness of that call to be able to resist it ; yet in truth all he ought to do should be to make his bow and thank them.—(Cheers and laughter.) He had come there with a different intention from that with which he generally attended public meetings. He gene rally attended to speak, but he came there to lis ten, and they seemed determined he should listen to him- . self.—(Laughter and much cheering. )• That was rather cruel of them, and for this simple reason, that no person could sup pose he was a prophet, and without being so he could not know what to say to-day. On Thursday next he would be able to tell them something. Peel had an easy job, . before him. All he had to do, was to give the operatives cheap bread, and the landlords high rents.—( Laughter. ) They seemed to think that that was not quite so easily done as said.—( Laughter.) Now, if he did not do that, and only took up one of those measires, he (Mr. O'Con nell) piti_d him very much as to the other. He (Sir Robert Peel) had, however, one refuge. He would give them plenty of words. He would give them plenty of figures, and he'd bother them with the figure.; entirely.—(Laughter.) His (Sir - It. Peel's) struggle would be to do as little as possible and gibe - them as many words as possible. His endeavour would be to raise a cloud and create confusion. Their course at present was • straightforward and " distinct.—( Hear.) They warned cheap bread; and that they must have.—( Hear.) Was thelre• anything yet • ever so simple? A talented operative hid addressed them a while ago, and when there were so many, men of such , talent among -the operatives, the higher classes could not , timng maintain their monopoly. Should the poor nun come into a market with the price of his skill and-la• boor. for the purpose of obtaining some of the necessaries of life, he meets (continued the Right Hon. and Learned Gentle man) a person exiled a landlord, who says to him, "You are ' going to-lay out the produce of your labour in purchasing bread,. but first give me 2d. out of the price of the loaf for giving you leave to.buy 43.! That was a system which could not last. It wan criminal in its operation, villanous in its intention, destructive to- the commerce. autt manufacture of the country. It was attended with all the grievous consequences which robbery and vtllany could hive, and. they were now wanting to see whit the monopolists were • going to do. for them.— (Loud cheers.) He remembered once reading in an old romauce, a tory of a knight, who for some crime was placed at one end of a -church, and upon the middle of the church was a common needle; at the other end of the church was placed a sheaf of wheat, and he was allowed to feed himself with all the wheat which might be blown through the eye of the needle.—( Hear, hear.) That was something like the plan of the monopolists. They would not give you the sheaf of wheat to blow through the needle —( Laughter) and they tax it before they know how to put it in a proper position. But the ceuutry was =used. —( Hear, hear-) England had spoken out, and Scot land had spoken out, in a tone that was not to be resisted ; and they would be aided by a good strong - Irish brogue.—(Cheers. ) Front others they would get nothin g but words. He re collected a story of a person called Daniel Isaac Eaton, who said . he was a printer of the "swinish multitude," a phrase, which they said, was taken from Burke. But he was prosecuted, and put into prison for four years. And where he - was inside the prison walls he put up the following motto : " Since times are scarce, and solid food is rare, The swinish herd must learn to live on air ; Wheat and peas no longer do abound, . A feast of words is in the hog's-trough found."—(Loud laughteie. ) Now Peel was the Daniel Isaac Eaton. He would not give Toas or wheat, but words, words, words.—( Hear, hear.) He (Mr. O'C.) wished to prepare the people for what was coming, but he knew the people would not be put off with delusion. No trickery. Bread was bread; and if .they did not get bread, they would take nothing else.—( Loud cheers.) A sliding scale was a very slippery thing, and a fixed duty was a fixed injus tice —(Cheers.) What they wanted was perfectly simple and plain —( Hear.) They wanted the markets of the world to be opened for them, for the purpose of getting provisions. They did not want to rub or steal, but they wanted that England . should have that food which France and Spain had to spare, after :Paying the proper price.—Hear.) The thing was plain, but be knew the dexterity of the high conjuror they had to deal with. (elusion was the object, for what else could be the meaning of the Duke of Buckingham retiring from the Administration ? 'He wished forsooth to be called tke "Farmers' Friend," and lie retired from the Government; but he said that he would support them on every other question except that of the con ; templated alteration in the .Corn-law. But if he gave up his office on principle, why support an Administration that was .wrong in principle ?--( Cheers.) Did it not give them an in . sight into the secrets of the closet, and show what alteration might be expected? The thing was a complete delusion, i n d the Duke knew what he retired for.---( Hear. hear, leer.) The thing was a clumsy humbug. But he could promise them a strong phalanx of Irish force.—(Cheering.) .sn'here were four of his own family who would vote for nothing Bless , than extinction of the Corn-law —but he . was wrong—he aretild vote for a good instalment to be able to, come at the snehers.e--( Cheets. ) Half a leaf was better than no bread.— ri(eheters anti laughter.) The cry for cheap bread had been raised in Manchester, and had travelled through.. the land. :':They should not let that cry die away, for when the cheering ceased, the, hunt was up.—( Cheers an d lau g hter.) If they failed, they would lose every thing. This was not a Tory or a Whig, or a Chartist - question. --(fear, hear.) It was a ques tion tbi cheap foOd. and is which the whole nation was con eerned nerintstlow one clam to tax the bread, of every , other.—(tend s cheers.) This was not a question of the propriety of raising taxes for the support of the State r but it was a question whether the poor were to have that food which Providence had so amply provided for them, if it had . • ." not been stopped from them by iniquitous legislation. The necessity of the demand was so obvious that it would be a mockery to detain the meeting any longer upon the subject. There was no person who came from the manufacturing districts who had not his talc of woe and misery to detail. These laws had entailed upon the people depression of every sort. Wages had • been diminished—povertv had increased. It was now fast, ' and now slow. Misery had' increased, and the wretchedness of the manufacturing districts was the consequence of the law. Foreign rivals were beating them out of the markets—even in their own markets they were now being undersold ; and he would ask, were the people of England to be led by the anag,ic of palavering words to submit to such a state of things ? (Hear, hear.) No, the people were too strong to be laughed at, and too ranch in the right to allow themselves to be deluded. They would have the victory if they were • determined on it. If there were Tories amongst them end he supposed there were, he would beg of them not to allow their prejudices to interfere between the salvation of the poor, • the good of the nation, and the remedy for their evils. The Whigs were in favour of a fixed duty, and the Tories of a sliding scale—but let them not be deluded by one or the other, • for a total repeal was the only treasure which could bring lasting good.—(Cheers.) TLey had not cue. ceedod last year because their cry was not strong ; but now it -had becom e too universal and ton extensive to be mocked. lie would entreat of them net to allow the spirit of folly to come amongst them, which would make them satisfied with ileintive and deceptive promisee. Let all parties be unani mous, and let them raise a general cry, and it would he ans w ered l " such a way as to relieve the poor from their misery • and wretchedeess, and place England where she ought to stand ' —above and beyond a 1 rivalry in the career of competition The moment the struggle reached its height, Enelislimen never shrunk. Englishmen never knew how to be beaten.—( Laugh -ter. ) It was a secret they had never discovered.—( Renewed laughter. ) Let them not find it out now in a erisii of the most vital importance.—( Hear.) They could not be beaten if they • were - true to one another—if they continued united in their Worts to get ritl'of that abominable monopoly, that incubus on their trade—the present Corn-law...et tt s --ear.,e Let them stand y e erether front. and rear, and they . would be sure to triumph.— . .( ford cheers, amidst which the Right Hon. Gentleman retired -• front the meeting. ) Carlisle,Dl came forward am id st c h eers to r. .Azxos, o f i 11 move the, next reslo_utun. e would not have att emp t e d to address thtiln o n that occasion' were it not for the long and felt in the manufactures of- the country. (14.13, interestlie had connected with-our cotton manufac tslefAlad ftrr t ,„„ ye w ars well acquainted with the • ando 4 . m a r s commerce throughout the . e st h a u t n e try o . f gs win h those engaged in that De-liner, the great sufferin enradielied lately been subjected to: he knew that those suffer 7w4e, ings Vero iteet'grea.t measure attributable to the present Corn ' —loves .131 e had from the Moment of the enactment of a Corn taw in. 1815, protested against such a measure, because he fore saw the evil, to which it would inevitably give rise. N thing could have given him greater pleasure than meet ing had adopted a resolution to have witnessed the unanimity na ti.o exp ress ive n w o i r t heir determination • not to compromise that great qu estion.—( Cheers.) No Their case was based upon the wen promise would do. ciples of lustice, and with a nything s hort of justice they should hear.) H e felt sure that if they per not be sontent.—( Hear , severed in their righte o us efforts, even Sir Robert Peel, net must bovr to them. And why? S'mply because they advo cated a just cause. They wished to interfere with the rights - of no man ; and he believed that if that great question.were once settled, all parties in the State would be essentially benefited. A large portion of our farmers and out a,gricultural labourers were deeply interested in the solution of that great_question. Our agricultural population were in reality most injuriously affected by the present Corn-laws. The r_ men of the north, the men of the borders—men as hardy, as willing, add as able to work as any others upon earth—were now in a state of the deepest'ssuffering, in consequence of the depression of our trade and the low rate of wages they received for their agricultural labour. Even a large body of our farmers were advocates for a total and immediate abolition of the Corn-laws. On a former oc casion the Convention had asked of Parliamed't to be heard at the bar of the House. That prayer was refused. They next asked to be heard before a Committee of the House, and that request, too, was not complied with. They told them they should hear from them again, and they had heard from them again. He wished to congratulate their Hon. Chairman on the state of the movement in Scotland. The Scotch people had made up their minds upon the gun,- tion ; and Scote.hmen deliberated before they determined.— ( Hear, hear.) The people of England had long ago made up their minds upon the subject; and he believed the people of Ireland were also pretty unanimous with regard to it. He had been himself entrusted with a petition to the House of Cemmons, sig ned by 5,000 inhabitants of the town of Car lisle, which he then represented, and that was a pre ponderating majority of the whole population of the city. He earnestly hoped that the other cities and towns of this great commercial country would imitate their example.—( Hear, hear.) The Hon. Gentleman concluded by moving ihat the meeting should then adjourn till eleven o'clock to-morrow. Joule BROOKES, Esq., of Manchester. came forward amidst general cheers to second the resolution. He had reason to know something of the Corn-laws—for a man g enerally knew most of his own business.—( Hear, hear.) He had been him self engaged in the corn-trade for the last thirty-three years, and he had been a shipper for thirty-six years; but during that time he had never purchased any foreign corn. The uncertainty and the instability of the trade had prevented him from doing so. Purchases must under the pre sept system be made in a hurry ; and it was impossible to calculate on a regular and steady trade. He had been in the habit of bringing, hides from Monte Video, but he had never brought the flesh of animals in consequence of the high rate of duty. The flesh was left to be de stroyed, and could be turned to no use whatever. He had lately had a portion of this beef transported to this country, and he found it cost him but 144 d. per pound. Ile could buy beef in Psoenos Ayres at the rate cf 9d. for 25 lb. ; and a friend of his had lately bought sheep at 2d. and 7d. a-piece. In June last Sir Robert Peel had de clared at the hustings—the hustings was the place to catch them—(Laughter)—that a fixed duty of S. did not appear to him to afford a sufficient protection to the farmez.—( Hear.) The Right Hon. Baronet went on to say that they must con sider the burdens to which land was subject in this country. He would have them look at the amount of poor-rates on land, and see who paid the Church -rates, the Highway-rates, and the Tithes. These, he said, were paid by the landed occupiers. Observe what Sir Robert said. Not the landed proprietor but the landed occupier. The tact was that land would let for more money with the Corn-laws or: it than it would without it. He (Mr. Brooks) remembered when he was at Harrowgate, there were sixteen Tories there and only two Whig s; they were talking about the Corn-laws. He (Mr. B.) asked them one question. He said—Suppose he had two houses to let, one furnished and one unfurnished, for which would he get the highest rent ? They answered—" For the furnished house, of course ;" and so it was with the land. Land well furnisbed'would bring more rent than unfurnished land. Well, Sir Robert continued, and if you let in corn pro duced by other countries, not subject to these burdens, it would he evidently unjust to the growers of this country. But what had we to do with them ? Nothing at all. The fact was, they were cheating them.—( Cheers.) He never yet found a man who could justify the Corn .laws. Some say, why we only get 2/ I per cent. for the money which we have invested in land ; he replied, that they were not bound to buy , land if they only got 2k per cent. for their money. He had had the honour of putting a question or two once to Lord Stanley, and that Nobleman admitted, without any hesitation, that land let higher with the Corn-law upon it. There was an admission for them. What right had one section of the com munity to tax the other ? It was a fact that there was a Corn law, and it was equally a fact that that law had been made for a certain purpose ; what then was that purpose? Wu it to prevent foreign corn from getting into England? It was— they could not deny the fact. He was not surprised at that part of Lord Stanley's story, but he confessed he was surprised at his Lordship's sentiments with regard to foreign trade, when he said that they must take care of their colonies, and not mind the foreign trade. It was the duty of Members of the House of Commons to represent the mercantile interests—if such were their duty he (Mr. B.) would say that Lord Stanley was as fit for the office he held as he (Mr s B.) would be to fulfil the du ties of a Bishop.—( Laud cheers.) He (Mr. B.) knew that mercantile men had more interest in the foreign trade than in the Colonies. He himself had 249,0001. in the foreign trade, and, only 38,000!. in the colonies ; and yet they were to sink the foreign trade for the sake of what ? That the sons of the aristocracy might reign over them. The fact. was, Lord Stanley belonged to the aristocracy, and he backed them through thick and thin. He must tell them one thing—they must sink Whigery, Toryism, and Chartism, and bind themselves together never to give up, and then they should see whether they were to have their rights or not.—(Cheers.) Hundreds and thousands of ,people were being converted to their opinions, and he hoped the time was not far distant when they should obtain their rights. He remembered a story about one Billy Whittaker in Lancashire,, which he would tell them. This Billy Whittaker owed a great deal, of money to different people in the town, yet when any one went to the public-house, there Air. Billy, might be seen drinking and smoking with the merriest of them ; no one there so comfortable as he. .1 person said to him one day, " I wonder to see you here so comfortable ; if I were in your circumstances, owing so much money, I could not sleep in my bed." lb !" said Billy, "if I were the people that I owed it to, then I should riot sleep in my bed; as it is, I sleep soundly." The aristocracy of this country are all Billy Whittakers— ( Loud laughter)—they think the people were asleep ; but they will soon see that they are wide awake—(lncreased laughter and cheers)—if the people slept at all it must be with one eye open.--( Laughter and cheers. ) Mr. Brookes concluded, amidst loud applause, by seconding the resolation which was put from the Chair, and unanimously adopted. Mr. HENRY ASIIWORTII, of Bolton, next addressed the meeting—He said there was so much intelligence, and spirit, and energy, displayed by every individual at the meeting, that it was impossible for him to add anything to what had been already said ; he would merely suggest, as he was sure every one of the Delegates had come charged with intelligence from their respective districts, that each of them should prepare something like a statistical detail of the matters that ought to he submitted to the meeting, and that that detail should be left with the League, to be used afterwards as was thought best. He had himself gathered 4 good deal of argument from many of the newspapers, and bad collected a great deal more from the facts stated at the meetings held at Leeds Manchester, and other pla ces . H e h a d them all collected together, and he would submit them to the League. If each of the Delegates collected the facts relating to his own district there was no doubt but a greatdeal of inter esting matter would be obtained. The Delegates might for in stance sit down that evening and contrast the present state of their districts with its condition a few years ago ; and in that way, by showing it in a statistical detail, most interesting and im portant information • might be had.—( Hear, hear.) He merely mentioned the matter to the meeting, in order that the Delegates might adopt the suggestion if they thought it of use.—( Loud applause. ) The' CHAIRMAN said the meeting had heard Mr. Ashworth's suggestion, and he was sure it was worthy of adop tion. The Committee had, yesterday, waited on Sir R. Peel, to obtain an interview with him, and they were in expeetation of receiving an answer every hour. It was the wish of the Com 'mittee that the entire of the Delegates should wait upon Sir Robert Peel, if he granted the request of the Conference. It was therefore most desirable that they should be all in at tendance - punctually at eleven o'clock - to-morrow morning All" the petitions for the abolition of the Corn-laws should be presented to Parliament as early as possible ; and thoie petitions brought to London by the Delegates, should be each-given forthwith for presentation hy each Delegate to his own Representative, provided that that Honourable 'Oentleinan *ere favourable to the object of it. But if not, then the petition . shbuld be left with the Executive Committee, who would take means-to have it immediately presented. The Chairman then said he could not allow the meeting to separate, without expressing the very great satisfaction it afforded him to ' see the tone which they had taken up, and the deter mination with which they were disposed to act.—( Hear. ) This was a simple point that every one might understand. Let them keep by this principle till thelast, regardless of all oppo sition, and they mightdepend on it that the force ofpublie opi nion so expressed would be fonnd irresistible.—(Cheers. ) Mr. SIDNEY SMITH said it was important to inform the Conference before it separated that several Metropolitan Anti- Corn-law districts were de=irous to receive deputations from the Conference to address meetings in their respective locali ties. To carry out this object he had therefore to request that gentlemen from those districts would leave their names and the places to which they belonged below stairs, and also the times and places where they desired the addresses tole de livered ; and also that gentlemen, Members of the Conference, willing to deliver their addresses, would leave their names below stairs with the Executive Committee. They would then most effectually agitate the question.—(Hear, hear.) It was desirable that their friends in the metropolis should hear their friends from the country. A perfect under standing between the capital and the provinces would be thus established, and London would resume the station she held when this abominable law was passed.—( Hear, hear. ) Mr. SMITH then read over again the list of the Executive Committee, to which the following gentlemen were added : The Rev. W. W. Williams, and Mr. Evans, the Chairman and Secretary of the Welsh Anti-Corn-law Conference ; Mr. W: Ibbotson, and the Rev. T. Bailey, of Sheffield ; the Rev. W. Roof, of Wigan. Up to three o'clock, between 500 and 600 Deputies had given in their names. The meeting then adjourned until 11 o'clock this day. THE SUN', LONDON. 'VVEDN''MDA -- ,4; --- FEBRUARN 9. 1842. thus much on presenting the petition, considering the import- • once and respectability of those who had signed it. On the motion of the NOBLE %awns the petition was read at length by the Clerk. Lord BROUGHAM was sure that his Noble Friend did not mean to say that this was the only instance in which a body of manufacturers had petitioned for au abolition of all protecting duties. It was true that in general it had appeared that they were more in favour of protection than of free trade. The_ Marquis of LANSDOWNE had only said that it was very rare to receive a petition from a body of manufacturers for the abolition of all protection. Lord BROUGHAM remembered two instan c e s of such pe titions, om hiferhwasapetition, not f rom one b o dy of delegatesma from a ll t h e tra d es, which ma nufacturers, one e rs, bet prayed for the total repeal, not only of the Corn-laws, but of every kind of ,protection. But the present petitioners wished to have a fixed duty on corn, that is, a bread-tax. • The Marquis of LANSDOVfNE—OnIy for the purpose of revenue, not for protection. . Lord BROUGHAM—If they wish for a fixed duty on corn for the purpose of revenue, that was in plain short language a bread-tax. __ _ Lord ASHI3URTON. was sure that be would not be ex pected on the presentation.of a petition to enter into a discus sion of the questions of free trade, the Corn-laws, and the calves of commercial, and manufacturing, and agricultural dis tress. Each of those topics would be sufficient for a whole even ing's discussion, yet, he couldnot allow the observations of the Noble Lords opposite to pass without a few words. He be lieved that there was really very great distress inthose districts of the West of England from wbieh the petitions came. But it appeared from the words of the petitioners themselves that, out of 3,000 looms, fully one-half were unemployed. Now, as no such decline of trade was experienced generally in other parts of the country where the woollen trade was carried on, it must be supposed that this particular district was subject to some disadvantage in Carrying on that trade, which was not felt in other parts of the country. The decline had not been sudden; it had been gradually going on for years. The woollen manufac tures had in fact gone to the coal districts, from the west to the north, just as the silk manufactures had gone from Spitalfields to Manchester and Macclesfield. In fact, he believed that the migration of particular branches of manufacture from one part of the country to another—not to say from one country to an other—was one of the penalties, as had been said by a Noble Lord upon another subject, this country must have to pay for the possession of this kind of wealth. Whenever distress was occasioned in one part by this sort of disturbance, or other cause, the petitioners were not content to state the extent of the distress, but to explain imaginary causes, and point out supposed remedies. There were always changes of some sort, and nothing could be more mischievous than perpetual change —one day a protecting duty, another day an alteration of it, and again the transfer of the protection from one branch, or one article, —to another.(Cries of " Hear, hear.") He was snprised that his Noble Friend had been deceived by such a fallacy as the supposition that the Americans could not trade with WE country because we could not take their corn. His Noble Friend seemed to think that the time had now ar rived when the millenium of free trade was to take place. No one would more rejoice than he would at such a circumstance; but what was the real fact ? Why, every country in Europe was endeavouring to exclude the articles of commerce of this country. Whether the alterations contemplated by the pea. tioners would be beneficial or nor, he would not attempt to say ; but, for himself, he believed that there was necessity for protection.—( Hear.) He would say nothing with respect to the present system of protection, but of • this he was con vinced, that protection was necessary. He believed that any Government that was foolish enough to propose a total repeal of the Corn-laws would, by doing so, sign the warrant of th e i r ow n destruction.—(Crie s o f " Hear.") If the House considered the subject attentively, they would find that the interest of the agriculturist and the general inte rest of the country would not be served by a total repeal of the protecting duties. He (Lord Ashburton) wished to enter his protest against the principle that whenever any distress existed in the agricultural districts, that that should be a reason why the Legislature should interfere and upset the whole system acted upon. in the country. After some conversation, it was ordered that the petition should be laid upon the table. The Earl of MINTO presented a petition from a place in Scotland, praying for the immediate and total repeal of the Corn-laws. the petition, which was signed by 1,600 persons, prayed that all duties imposed apon articles of commerce were founded upon principles of impolicy and injustice ; they there fore prayed the establishment of free trade in corn, and all other articles of provision. Earl FITZ WILLIAM presented petitions from the borough of Leeds, and also from Nottingham, praying for the repeal of the Corn and Provision-laws. Lord MONTEAGLE moved for copies of the appointments of Mr. Percival and Mr. Eadon, together with the production of the other papers of which he gave notice yesterday. Lord CLIFFORD rose to beg their Lordships to postpone till after the Easter recess emotion of which he had given no tice to the House on the Ist of October last, for the appoint ment of a Committee to inquire how far it was in the power of the Government and Council of Madras to afford protection to natives of this country and Hindostan, and to hear evidence on the subject, and report it to the House. The reason why he thought it necessary to bring thatmotion forward was, that the Governor-General of India had asked for the.fullest informa tion on every point to which he had referred when speaking upon that subject on a former occasion. He understood that a report had been sent to the presidency of Madras, stating what had taken place in that House on the 23d of September. His speech on that occasion lasted upwards of an hour, but did not occupy more thantwenty lines of the columns of the newspapers. He had, therefore, thought it necessary to make a protest in the papers as to the report which had appeared on the 24th, rela tive to what he bad said on the 23d. If any of the reports which appeared in the public papers of the 24th. had been for warded to India, those reports were only calculated to promote confusion; and the question on which he had addressed their Lordships was one of so great consequence, that it was abso lutely necessary that false reports should not go abroad. He would not now go further into the motion, which he wished their Lordships to postpone till after the recess, but would merely ask, whether any answer had been received at the Board of COntrol, with regard to the information which had been sent out relative to the correspondence between Lord illiam Bentinck and .1. Manuel de Castro, the Governor of Goa ? Notwithstanding the decided measures on the part of the Crown of England, by the law of India no Roman Ca tholic is matura could enter a Roman Catholic chapel, though built with his own money on his own ground, without having the sery ice pet formed by people declared to be out of the See of Rome. The Roman Catholic population had at present to submit to the alternative of not entering a Roman Catholic chapel to assist at divine worship, or of contravening the orders of the head of their Church, by assisting at divine worship performed by Priests not. in communion with the See of Rome. He would not say that he was quite positive on this subject, but the in formation he had received was from his own brother, who had been a resident on the spot. Such was the state of the Catho lics of a large district, and it might be the state of all the Catholics to the Khistna. This was the statement to which he had drawn the attention of their Lordships on the 23d of September last, making a motion at the same time for the pro ductionsome of those papers were laid on ; certainothers papers it was declared could not be found at the which was the c ase w ith near ly a ll th e p a p ers the e(lita ab House, of relating to the subject. He repeated his motion on the 4th of October, and notwithstanding this declaration, the papers were produced. He entreated their Lordships, between the present time and the Easter recess, to direct their atten tion in some degree to the subject, which he considered as one of immense importance to the peace of India, and one on which he thought it most material that no false reports should go abroad. He had thought it right to protest against what he had been made to say in the public papers, though he did not think htrnself called on to state what he did say on that occasion. When the aggrieved parties came forward, as they intended to do, with a petition and address to her Majesty, and not till then, he should bring his motion forward. He bad ex pected that the address and petition would by this time have arrived in thiseeuntry, but circumstances had occurred to pre vent it; he expected both the petition and the address, how ever, would reach this country by the Easter recess, when they would be presented in due form. He was not authorised to state the precise terms in which they were cou.ehed, but there was one particular about them which had pleased him much. In the address to the Queen it was expressly stated, that if, on examination it should be : found that any injury had been done to any one, it was the petitioners' first request that ne vindictive measures might be taken on their account against the persons who might have aggrieved them. They asked for tranquillity and security for the future, and not for vengeance for the past, which they utterly disclaim. Ile concluded by asklng the Noble Lord the President of the Board of Controul, if he bad received any further communication on the subject ? Lord FITZGERALD agreed with the Noble Lord in the importance of the subject he had brought before the House, and when the matter was brought before it in a proper shape he was sure that it would meet with that attention which it de served ; at present, however, all that he could say was, that information had been received on the subject that day, but the Noble Lord who had sent it accompanied it with a statement that he was afraid it.would not be so satisfactory as it might has 4 been had more time been allowed. After a few observations from Lord CLIFFORD, the sub ject dropped. • The House Adjourned shortly before -Eleven o'Clock to , Thursday. LLOYD'S SHIPPING. LONDON. FEB. B.—Wind this day at noon to S. W. , DEAL. FEB. 6.—Wind S. S. E. to S.—Arrd. from the River, Ethelred, 'tor Jamaica. Sid. Lady Fitzherbert, South Australia. LIVERPOOL. FEB. 7.—Winkl easterly.—Arrd. Richard An derson, New York. SM. Belvidere, Bombay ; Sanback, De merara; Racer, Vera Cruz; Mary Taylor, Cuba; Cal cutta, Savannah ; Ilzoide, Philidelphia ; Azores packet, Azores ; Albion, Adra. Arrd. off, Aurelius, Savannah ; Snowdon, Africa. The Venelia, from Jamaica to Apalachicola, is re , ported to be wrecked. COWES, FEB. 7.—Sld. Rubens and Sokaton, Antuerp, OFF SALCOMBE, FEB. 6.—Favourite, Denmark for East Indies. SOUTHAMPTON, FEB. 7.—Arrd. Margaret steamer, Gibral tar, left 27th ult., Cadiz 23th, Lisbon 31st, Oporto , Ist inst., Vigo 2d. FALMOUTH, FEB. 6.—Wind E. S.E. to E., fresh gales.— . Arrd. Janet, Blues, Buenos Ayres, left 24th Nov.; Braganza steamer, Southampton for Vigo. OFF PENZANCE, FEB. 6.—Admiral Moorsom, Remming ton, Demerara. KINGROAD, FER. 7.—Arrd. Emma, Odessa. SWANSEA, FEB. 4. —The Julia, Melhuish, from Newfound land to Gibraltar, has put in here with loss of foremast, bowsprit, &c., during a gale in lon. 44—cargo supposed to be damaged. PORTSMOUTH, FEB. 7. —Wind variable.—Arrd. Ambassa dor, Madras • George Lord, Corfu. Arrd. off, Britannia, Smyrna. The Christian, of Liverpool, dismasted and aban doned, was passed 19th ult., off Cape St. Vincent, by the George Lo t d, ar ,i'ved here. - CARDIFF, FEB. 2.—Sailed Emporiuni. New York. BRISTOL, FEB. 6.—Sld. Lucy, Antigua; Clifton, Alioent. IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, Feb. 8. The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the Wool sack shortly after Five o'clock. Lord DUNCANNON moved for several petitions re lating to the number, names, and residences of the Irish Stipendiary Magistrates, who had been in office from the Ist of October 1840, to the Ist of October 1841 ; of the names and residences of those who were dismissed in the year ; and similar returns from the Ist of October 1841, to the Ist of February)B42.:—Ordered. CORN-LAWS. Lord BROUGHAM begged to call the attention of I I their Lordships to a petition which he held in his hand, and which he considered of great importance, both by reason of the subject and of the body from which it pro ceeded. It was a petition from a Conference lately held at Edinburgh, and which, having sat for three days, came to a unanimous determination on the subject of the Corn laws ; that was, a petition for their total repeal. That ' conference, as perhaps was known to their Lordships, was composed of the ministers and elders of the various Dissenting congregations throughout Scot land. He understood that originally an intention was announced from 712 congregations to send Delegates to the conference, but instead of that num- . ber falling off, as was usual in such cases, SO2 congregations were represented by their elders and ministers. The conference assembled in Edin burgh—they met day after day successively for three days, and - the number who attended varied from 1,400 to 1,600 daily. The debate was carried on with the greatest possible order. In temper, manner, and tone, there was the greatest moderation. He would not trouble their Lordships with reading the petition, important. as it was, for the arguments which the petition used were the same as were often urged in that House, and were familiar to their Lordships. The prayer was for a total repeal of the Corn-laws, and when he read in their own words the perfect im partiality with which they treated the plans both of the late Government and of the present, their Lordships would see that if any charge could be made against their proceedings, it could not be that of faction. They said that they view with equal disapprobation both plans —both the sliding scale of Sir R. Peel and the fixed duty of Lord John Russell. They passed an equal condemna tion upon all projects for taxing the food of the people, and they denounced, them as opposed to religion and mo rality, and injurious to the best interests of society. He, however, and his Noble Friend behind him (Lord Radnor, we believe,) entirely differed from the pe titioners on the grounds on which they put their objections to the Corn-laws. He did not regard the question as a religious one at all, or one of morality. He did not think that morality or religion was at all connected with the question, unless by a very strained construction. But he agreed with them in their last statement, that the Corn-laws were adverse to the best interests of society. Although this was a con ference only from " Dissenting congregations, it was not . to be inferred that the congregations of the Established Church did not hold the same opinions. He was aware of no reason why a conference of Dis senting Ministers should be holden, on this question more than on any other political question. He had stated his opinions to the conference, but they had, notwithstanding, intrusted this petition to his hands. Ho (Lord Brougham) had never been one who had in any way put upon exaggerated grounds his advo cacy of the repeal of the Corn-laws. He had never held out the prospect of such a repeal very much lowering the price of bread and other provisions of this country ; that it would lower them to a certain extent he had no doubt ; that it would lower them to such an extent as had been stated by the advocates of repeal, he did not believe. There could not be a greater error than those committed, who, in their zeal, allowed themselves to be led into exaggeration ; it was a mode of diminishing, and not of increasing, to exaggerate ; it was like an unskiful person looking through a magnifying glass, which might be so used as to diminish, instead of to magnify. There was, however, a great portion of truth in the argument by which the total repeal of those laws was supported. That the best interests of society required their immediate re vision, which, if fairly performed, would lead to a total r.?.peal of those laws, he firmly believed. He would not now do more than simply present the petition, and request tlioi.r Lordships! favourable ear to its prayer. A Message from the Commons brought up the Appro. priatioa Act Amendment Bill. _ Lord .BROUGHAM presented petitions from Kilmar nock, Arbroath, Paisley, and several other parts of Scotland, in favour of a total repeal of the Corn-laws. The Noble Lord also presented a petition from Usher's Quay, Dublin, praying for an alteration in the Irish Marriage Act. Lord STRAFFORD presented petitions from different parts of Ireland, praying for an alteration in the Irish Marriage Act. On the motion of the Marquis of •NORMANBY a return was ordered of the Magistrates appointed since the Ist of February, 1841. On the motion of the Duke of WELLINGTON, the Appropriation Act Amendment Bill was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second time on Thursday. '' 'rho Marquis of LANSDOWNE presented a petition from. Arbroath, in favour of the repeal of the Corn-laws. The - Noble Marquis stated he had now to call the particular attention of the House to the petition of which he had given notice of his intention to present; it was from a body so respectable and so deeply interested in the commerce of the country, that Le felt it to be his duty to bring the sub ject of it specially before the attention of the House. Tl,ey had peculiar reasons for calling attention to the subject, and bringing their views under their Lord ship's consideration. He had then to present to the Id 'use the state of the woollen manufactures of the counties of Norfolk, Somerset, and Wilts, and he should state to the House the anode in which those petitions were agreed upon towards the close of last year. The business in all those countries had considerably de creased ; upon communication between the master manu facturers of Leeds and the other parts of England, a meeting was called for the purpose of throwing light upon the subject, and. ascertaining the opinions of the people of the West of England. Accordingly a meet ing was held at Bath, and there facts were stated for the purpose of eliciting a statement of the ge neral condition of trade, and to enable the meet ing to lay those facts before that House, per sons of all descriptions were summoned to attend, and they did attend ; and after a lengthened communi cation, and after much discussion had taken place, they came to a resolution which they embodied in the petition which it would be his duty than to lay before the House, That petition was ' the same as others in many respects, but in others it also materially differed. —(Hear, hear.) It was very numerously signed; in, the first place, it stated that it was the opinion of the petitioners that there was now a considerable failure in the woollen trade, and that the restrictions upon provisions had reduced and neutralized trade, and pauperised the working classes.— (Hear, hear, hear.) These evils were produced by partial legislation, and more especially by the Corn and Provision laws. The petition further stated that all restricting and prohibitory duties upon provisions were most prejudicial to the interests of all classes of the community, and that all duties intended for the protec tion of British manufacturers should be repealed. These were the facts stated in the petition, and in the first place he (the Noble Marquis) felt bound to state that he believed they were well founded. There was too much general declamation upon these subjects, but facts could be adduced in support of it. The petition states that in the town of Bradford, in 1820, there were 19 manufactories producing 620 pieces of cloth weekly; from 1341 these 19 were diminished to two, and the number of pieces of cloth were reduced to 200 a week ; of the nineteen manufacturers, nine had failed since 1820, five had given up for want of success, and the remainder gradually discontinued busi ness. There was another principal town in Somer setshire, which, twenty years ago, had twenty eight woollen manufactories, now there are only fifteen, and those not fully employed ; five were occa sionally employed, and three were converted to other purposes. He would not trouble their Lordships with any . further details on this point, though further details had been put into his hands. He was sure that he had stated enough, if any one of their Lordships entertained a doubt upon the subject, to prove that there was a rapid declension in their manufactures; and to prove that the consequence of that declension must be an increase of misery, an increase in the Poor-rates, and a diminution in the consumption of agricultural produce in the neighbourhood of those towns, he bad heard it said, and perhaps he had him self be'en led to entertain 'the opinion to a greater extent than was justifiable, that there was a disposition in the trade to quit that part of the country to whieh he was then alluding, and to establish itself in other and more distant districts, particularly those of the northern ut of the kingdom ; but on entering into communication wi lls these individuals, he found that they :,a., ~,,llp.pfaiipe:,et acknowl e dged rhsaaretlleaeewith removing districts stated that thtvothrihignectgthtei ns n ea o toti, fh:s facoteco:groundnrthnpeeettdeatiehrtnkintedwolcsnyhee n ort h , districts a e inwi v sawhtd e anra te r adi i f ei nteonosrvnottefehshntuee.optpgopii greatest woollentsiwahoi tnt opinion e g ri satetti t h. 1 ha t t hT t e h h e ey trade manufacture might da o te f g rt Scotland , heee,c fio rono: flou rished, Corn laws, s w h a e , d , if the not s a me the p principal, e i setirpeasls, were a nd the de p ression gre at cause e fo e u f n t d he toexist depres sion of trade. He was not himself lear d to say that the Corn-laws were the sole cause of that p P de e ression . ; he was overwhelming w iT te rh lro al i ) o s g , ddiesgproeseed to which wthhiienhk many y th o el cause d that l i f ther e p thosepeti f tioners considered they did; but he was well advi e s trh ed ea , tr w wa e s re t o h t e he&c r a n use -la s ws th w at h w ic o h rk in ed te i r n fe p re r d odu w c i i tnhg declens ion , it re medy, and deprived trade Ind commerce of that ins na t ural t which they drew from one soiree, to remedy casual evils wa whiCl 2 ; they felt from another. It deprived those remedies of their efficiency at the very moment when their efficiency was , most required.—( Cries of " Hear, hear.") The petitioners bad stated a fact so strongly, so simply. and so st r iki n gl y , illustrative of this view of the subject , that he must beg leave to lay it before their Lordships. In the course of last autumn some of the principal manufacturing establishments in those districts had consigned a considerable quantity of cloth to the United States on limited credit, and, in consequence of the monetary embarrassment which occurred in America, it wsa impossible to obtain payment; hut the agents of those persons stated, that though they could not pay in money they could have remitted corn ; but, in consequence of the state of the Corn-laws, the manufacturers were unable to avail themselves of this offer. , It had also been proved that the depression was not owing to the withdrawal of the orders of the East India Company. In consequence of these circumstances, these_ manufacturers craved their Lordships to repeal all lifehialtori duties, and all monopoly duties of protection which were not intended for pur poses of revenue. He felt that the proposition was made at a period at which there was a promise of a charge taking place, and when the Corn-laws were about to share the fate of the woollen duties, he trusted with as beneficial a result to the agri cultural interest as the abolition of the foreign duties had proved to be. The time had now arrived when the defects of the Corn-laws had become too apparent to be overlooked. Their mischievous effects upon trade and commerce were now fully understood ; it was, therefore, necessary that some altera tion should take place. ,He entertained now the same opinions he had always done upon the subject, and those opinions were . that if any duty was imposed upon the necessaries of life they should be fixed duties. He had thought it necessary to state HOUSE OF COMMONS, Feb. 8. The SPEAKER took the Chair shortly before Four o'Clock. I - 11 - r.BARNARD presented a petition from the inha bitants of gaze-hill, Greenwich, against the Corn-laws. Mr. HINDLEY presented several petitions from Ash ton-under-Lyne to the same effect. Mr. RICARDO presented similar petitions from St. Pancras, the Tower Hamlets, and several other places. Mr. STRUTT presented similar petitions from Derby. Mr. WILSON presented petitions from Clithero, and several places in Yorkshire, to the same effect. Dr. BOWRING presented thirty petitions from dif ferent parts of the metropolis, in favour of the repeal of the Corn-laws. Mr. FERRAND presented petitions from the inha bitants of Keightley, agOATnst the Poor-law Bill. Mr. BROTHERTM presented a petition from the members of the Christian Alethodist Chapel at Salford, praying for a total repeal of the Corn-laws. Lord DALMENY presen ted a petition from the Cor poration and Guild of Stirling, for a total repeal of the Corn-laws. Mr. STANSFIELD presented petitions from various religious congregations and 'bodies of workmen in the West Riding of Yorkshire, praying for a total and im mediate repeal of the Corti -laws. Mr. PHILLPOTTS pres ented four petitions from the City of Gloucester, praying for a total repeal of the laws affecting the importation of corn. Mr. G. W. WOOD presented 32 petitions from the county of Westmoreland, s igned by persons of all classes, many of them farmers, praying for a repeal of the Corn laws. te- Mr. LITTON presented a petition from a Presby rian congregation in Coleraine, Ireland, praying for an enactment legalising Presbyterian and Catholic mar riages. Mr. WAWN presented two petitions from South Shields, signed respectively by. 1,500 of the inhabitants, and 2,800 workiier4, men , praying for a repeal of the Corn-laws. Mr. COBDEN presented s everal p etiti ons from dis senting religious congregations in Ayr, Northumber land, L ancaster , a nd the town of Oldham, praying that the Cor n -l aws m i g ht be repeale d. Mr. DUNCOMBE presen ted a petition from the bee inha bitants of Lyndhurst, praying that and another one reason was, atthey might ex empted from the operation of the Poor-laws. if he were Mr. COMPTON wished to know reason annexed to the peti tion. • . Mr.DU from NCo3olbBtatinrinepgli:ll: that what was ca ll e d t h e workhouse test prev en t e d t h e age d and infirm that under that system the rates annually increased. Mr. SMITH O'BRIEN presented a petition from the working classes of Paisley , complaining of the distress of the country, and praying that some system of emigra tion might be devised, by which they might go to the Colonies. Mr. EWART presented petitions from Dunbar, in Scotland, and from the members of Hope Chapel, Wigan, in Lancashire, complaining of the distress of the coun try, and praying for the total and immediate repeal of the Corn and Provision-laws. Mr. COMPTON presented a petition from Porches ter, praying for the continuance of the present duties on corn. Sir G. DE H. LARPENT presented two petitions, yery numerously signed, from .the Baptist congregation, in NOttingham, praying for the repeal of the Corn-laws; Mr.- RENNIE presented a petition from the master shipbuilders of Ipswich, Harwich, and Woodbridge, complaining of the present high rate of duty on timber entering .the Cnited Kingdom, and' praying for its re duction.. Mr.HOWELL wished to ask the Noble Lord, Secretary for Ireland,whether it was the intention of the Government to introduce a measure for the purpose of remedying the technical effects of, the Irish Municipal Reform Bill? Those defects had been productive of great practical in , • convenience. Lord ELIOT said that he would take that op portunity of expressing a hope that any Honour able , Gentleman who might be desirous of put ting questions to the Government similar to those of the Hon. Member would give previous notice of their intention. He did not wish to enter at that moment into the subject to which the Hon. Memher had alluded ; and as he had not the honour of a seat in the Cabinet, he was the biss able to intimate the intention of her Majesty's Ministers. He was sure, however, that if any practical grievances were pointed out, the Govern ment would be ready to apply a remedy. He was not aware, however, that they had in contemplation any measure on the subject to which the Hon. Member had alluded. Mr. HOWELL said that he did not Wish to press any question improperly on the Noble Lord. lie would give notice, however, that he would renew.his question of that evening to-morrow. Mr. D'ISRAELI postponed the motion of which ho had given notice, with respect to the Consular Establish ments of Great Britain. RAILWAYS (IRELAND.) An HoN. MEMBER wished 'to know from the Noble Lord the Secretary for Ireland, it it was the intention of her Majesty's Government to introduce in this Session any measure having for its object the promotion of rail way communication in Ireland; and, also, whether it was their intention to introduce any measure for the regula tion of medical charities in Ireland ? Lord ELIOT, in reply to the first question, said that various propositions had been submitted to her Majesty's Ministers by parties in Ireland, but no decision had been come to with respect to them. He believed that her Majesty's Ministers would not sanction any measure of which the effect would be to involve any outlay of public money, or to entail upon the country any liabilities. They would, however, give every facility in their power to private enterprise. With regard to the second question, namely, that which rQferred td the regulation of medical charities, a measure had been prepared, but it was not yet in a sufficiently forward state to be laid before the House. TREATY FOR THE SUPPRESSION OF SLAVERY. Lord PALMERSTON wished to ask a question of the Right Hon. Baronet opposite on a subject which had been referred to in the Speech from the Throne—namely, the treaty between the Five Powers for the suppression of slavery. In order that the House might comprehend the bearing of the question which he was about to ask, he would first state to the House the House the course of proceedings which had- led to that . treaty. The treaty as the House kneW by the papers l i which had been laid before it, was the result of a con ference held in December, 1838, at the Foreign-office, in order that the Plenipotentiaries of France and Eng land might propose to the Plenipotentiaries of Austria, Russia, and Prussia, the continuation of the negotiations which commenced at the Congress of Vienna, for the suppression of slavery. And there was this remarkable circumstance in that Conference, that whereas at the Treaty of Vienna England stood almost alone in urging the Powers of Europe to enter into that contrad, on this occasion, December, 1838, Fiance occupied the same honourable position which England had before occupied alone, and the proposal to make this treaty proceeded as much from France as England, and the two countries were equally entitled to the honour of the proposition. At that time a draft of the treaty was proposed by the Plenipotentiaries of France and England to the Plenipotentiaries of the other powers. The other Pleni potentiaries said they would refer to their Courts for instructions, and the Plenipotentaries of France and England, stated that they hoped the detailed provisions of that draft, would be found reconcilable with the rights and interests of the subjects of the other powers. Many communications passed. upon the subject, and to wards the end of last summer, the matter stood in this situation. The Treaty had been agreed to by the three Powtrs, and nothing but matters of form were. necessary to make - it effectnal. What he wished to ask the Right Hon. Baronet was, whether any material cite rations had been made in the Treaty as it stood in the draft, at the period when the late Govern ment were in office ; .and he also . wished to know whether the ratifications of any of .the 'contraCt ing parties had been received, and whether they had been exchanged for the. ratifications of the British Crown ? He might be allowed to say that never . per haps did any of the Five Powers . sign a treaty more honourable to themselves, or one which was founded on purer motives or more ' complcte disinterestedness than that to which he referred. if the Right Hon. Baronet thought it inconvenient to answer the question, he would be satisfied with such an intimation. Sir ROBERT PEEL said he did not foresee any in convenience in giving a reply to the questions which had been put to him by the Noble Lord. He could confirm, if any confirmation were neces sary, the accuracy of the statement which the Noble Lord had made with respect to the circumstances under which this treaty was considered and signed. The invi tation wa; addressed jointly by France, as well as by England, to the three other powers, parties to the treaty, requesting them to join in an united effort for the purpose of suppressing that traffic which had been de clared to be odious and impious by the voice of this country. The treaty was signed by the Five Powers subsequent to the appointment pf the present Ministers. He could not say that any important alterations were made in' the Treaty as it was signed, from the Treats as it was originally agreed upon at an earlia period. There were some modifications, but they were not of a nature which would at all justify him in characterising them as important ; they were mo difications intended to further the general objects of the Treaty.—(Hear, hear, hear.) The Noble Lord's second question was, whether the ratifications of any of the contracting parties had been received, and whether they had been exchanged with those of this country. No such exchan g e of ratifications had taken 'place. The period allowed for the exchange of ratifica tions would not expire till the 20th of this month. He had reason to believe that the ratification of some of the parties had been received in London; but as the period allowed for the exchange was not earlier than the 20th of February, no surprise could be felt that the exchange had not taken place. IMPORTS. Sir P. G. EGERTON moved for a return of the quan tity of cheese imported into the several ports of Great Britain, in each month of the years 1840 and 1841, dis tinguishing the European from the American produce. COMMISSIONS. Colonel SIBTHORP renewed his notice of a motion, made on the 24th of September, 1841, for a return of all Commissions of Inquiry, appointed by order of the House ; also of the number of Commissions now in operation, with a return of the promress made by each ; of the expense already incurred by such Commissions, and also of the number of those whose labours had already closed, and the final result of their labours. f la', TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM. Lord bIAHON begged to put a question to the Secretary of State for the Home Department, as to the fact, of the large increase in the number of convicts permanently , detained in the hulks at the different seaports in this country, al though they had been sentenced to transportation. He wished to ask the Hon. Gentleman whether, in the ad ministration of this department, it had been his en deavour to diminish the number of convicts so detained at home, and increase those sent abroad ? Sir JAMES GRAHAM said he could assure his Noble Friend that he had endeavoured gradually, and he hoped successfully, to diminish the number of convicts detained at home. During the past year 1,000 convicts had been sent to Gibraltar, to labour in the repair of that fortress, and during the next year he believed the number of convicts at home would be diminished by 1,000 or 1,500. THE INSURRECTION IN CABOOL. Mr. H. ELPHINSTON said that some very disastrous accounts had just appeared in the public journals of the state of Cabool. He begged to ask the Right Hon. Baronet whether any farther and official accounts of the insurrection had been received by the Government ? Sir R. PEEL stated that despatches had been received, but, as they had only . just been placed in his hands, he had not been able to inform himself of their contents. THE BUDGET. Mr. BARCLAY put a qestion to Sir Robert Peel as to when he would be prepared to bring forward his financial statement ? Sir R. PEEL said he should proceed to develope his financial statement with the least possible delay, but public necessity would compel him to postpone it for a short time. This postponement had no reference what ever to personal convenience, but to the public interest alone. He should make his statement as soon as the immediate votes of supply were granted ; but after that he should not lose a day. He was sure the Hon. Gen tleman would not wish him to make any partial dis closures. On the motion of Mr. GOULBURN, the Appropria tion Act Amendment Bill was read a third time, and some necessary words being added, was then passed. THE CHURCH IN THE WEST INDIES. Lord STANLEY said he believed there would be no ob jection made to the Bill which he now was about to move for leave to bring in. It might be in the recollection of the House, that in the year of 1825 a Bill was passed to establish a Bishop in Barbadoes, and a Bishop in Jamaica, assigning salaries to the Bishops and Arch deacons of those dioceses. Since 1825, in consequence of well-known circumstances, the labours of the clergy in the West ludies had increased to a great extent, and it was one of the most happy effects of emancipation, that throughout all the West India Islands, there had sprung up a great and increasing desire of spiritual instruction. Churches and chapels were rising on every side ; the clergy were increasing, and there was an unanimous wish for their superintendence. But these gratifying circumstances threw increased duties on the Bishops of those dioceses. The Bishop of Barbadoes, under whom were the whole of the Leeward Islands, and also Demerara, had had his duties so much increased that it was impossible for one Bishop to preside over so extensive a diocese ; and at that moment the Bishop of Barbadoes had tendered his resignation, according to an Act whiCh, after ten years' service, entitled him to retire with a certain allowance. The Bishop of Barbadoes had served sixteen years, and he had now placed his resignation at the disposal of the Government. At the period of his retirement, he (Lord Stanley had felt it desirable, as had the Noble Lord who had held the Secretaryship of the Colonies before him, to make a more effectual arrangement regarding the Episcopal functions of these Colonies, but he was ppy to- inform the House that he had made these arrange rnents With the full approbation of the clerical body at home, and of the Bishop of Barbadoes himself, without ealling on the country for any increased sum of money. The salary of the Bishop was 4,0001. a year, with a retiring allowance of 1,000/. ; there were two Archdeacons with salaries of 2,0001. a-year each ; but they actually received only 1,500/. as they subscribed 500/. a -year each for the Archdeacon of Demerara, who received an addition of 500/. from the colony ; the inten tion of the Bill which he intended to lay on the table of the House was, that three Bishops should be appointed, that one Bishop should receive 2,500/, a-year, another 2,0001. and a third 1,5001. ; that 'there should be three Archdeacons with GOO/. a-year each, instead of the sum formerly allowed, which he considered too much. He proposed also to add to the clergy in St. Kitt's • and in Trinidad two Rural Deans, with 500/. a• year each. The whole amount, therefore, would not exceed the amount at present appropriated to maintain the Bishop and three Archdeacons ; and they would have the services of three" Bishops, three Archdeacons, and two rural Deans. He trusted that in making these arrangements they should obtain an ade quate superintendence in the Episcopal department of these colonies. He thought it right, in justice to the Bishop of Barbadoes, to add that though he was entitled to his full quarter's salary in consequence ota question having arisen as to' the form of his resignation, which was tendered in August last, yet the Bishop considers his re signation to have been given in at that time, and he (the Bishop of Barbadoes) was content to receive in' lieu of the one thousand pounds to which he might have been entitled, 250/., the amount of his ret i r i ng allowance. He proposed also to m a ke similar arrangements with regard to Jamaica. The Bishopric was not vacant, but a similar provision would be introduced for giving 4,0001. to the Bishop, and 2,0001. to the Archdeacon. : He pro posed to take out letters p a t en t f or t wo or snore dioceses. in such a manner that the total sum assigned would not exceed the six thousand pounds now appropriated for the maintenance of a single Bishop. He did not anticipate any opposition to the proposition, and he should conclude by moving for leave to bring in a Bill on the subject. . Mr. LABOUCHERE seconded the motion. Leave was then given to bring in the Bill. COLONIAL CUSTOMS' 'DUTIES. The House having resolved itself into a Committee of the whole House on the Acts relating to Customs' Duties in the West Indies and North American Colonies, Mr. GLADSTONE said, that in rising to bring under the notice of the CoMmittee a subject of so much importance it was satisfactory that he should not have to trouble the House at any length on the nature of the proposition he was about to make. It would be in the recollection of most of those :who heard him, that the Right Honourable Gentleman opposite, the late Presi dent of the Board of Trade, had introduced a plan to the House to relieve the North American colo nies from the weight of the duties levied on them under the authority of the Imperial Parliam'bnt, which plan was felt by the House to be of the greatest - benefit; that would render it unnecessary for him (Mr. a) to detain the House by going over the details of the'subject again, brought forward as they were with great clearness, and with an ability superior to any to which he could pretend. He should content himself with stating the general grounds, and - referring to the main proposition on which he intended to bring the subject forward. That Right Honourable Gentleman had shown that the Colonial system between this country and its dependencies was one of extreme strictness in a commercial - sense. That system had commenced sixty years-40i, and, since the peace in 1815, material changes . had been effected in their policy with respect to the colonies. In the year 1822, Lord Ripon, then Mr. Robinson ; and again, in the year 1825, Mr. Huskisson had introduced measures into Parliament, the object of which was to alter their colonial policy ; the result of which was, as far as those measures went, completely satis factory, and the apprehensions of evil that find been anticipated had been proved to be void of all just grounds. The duties which were levied by the au thority of the Imperial Parliament, were levied at a rate which was unjust, either with regard to the interests of the revenue of the Colonies themselves, or with regard to the principles which Parliament had laid down with respect to the regulation of :their colonial policy,, and the operation of the system, as it. stood on the statute book, was extremely onerous. He did not think, that on that occasion, more . than one or two Hon. Members felt disposed to object to the propositions of the Right. Hon. Gentleman ; but if, any objections existed to the principle of the plan he would refer the House to the case of our colonies in the East, where the Crown, acting under the authority of Parliament, had followed a line of. commercial policy completely different to that which had been pur sued with regard to our possessions in the western hemis phere. He was not exactly aware whether the same line of policy was pursued in those countries under the rule of the East India Company, although he believed such was the case ; but through the British colonial possessions in the East, there was not any where a ditferential duty of more than five, six, or seven per cent. levied for the protection of British manufactures. When he considered that such was the case, and that it was impossible to say which was the most valuable to the country, the trade with our Eastern colonial possessions, or that with our possessions . in the West, of such invaluable importance' were both, be thought that he had stated sufficient to calm the apprehensions of those who' thought it necessary, on account of British interests, that the present rate of duties should be continued in our Western pos sessions.—(Hear, hear, hear.) When the Hon. Gen tleman laid his plan before Parliament last session, referring, as it did, to a variety Of interests, and to places situated at a distance 'so great, some gentle men felt a difficulty in giving an unqualified assent to a plan affecting dependencies so remote withr.ut having been afforded an opportunity of ascertaining how those propositions would be welcomed by the people of those dependencies.—(Hear.) For that reason he con sidered it a happy circumstance that the measure had not passed into a law last year, because, from the time which had elapsed, the bearing of those mea sures had become known in our colonies, in .the West Indies, and North America, and those measures were generally approved of by the inhabitants of those colonies. The Right Hon. Gentleman in bringing forward the measure last year had said he had brought it forward on its own merits, on that ground he had asked the sanction of the House, and so far as regarded English interests, which might be supposed to be prejudicially affected by the measures • proposed, the Right Honourable Gentleman himself', who was at that time at the head of the Board. of Trade, and who had, .consequently, the • best opportunities of being acquainted ~with public feeling on the subject, had stated on a subsequent discussion that the measure he had proposed receiVed a larger share of approbation from the general commercial interest of the country than any measure that had ever been proposed. • He (Mr. Gladstone) was not going to dispute any of the principles which the Right Hon. Gentleman then pro pounded, but, on the contrary, to recommend to the Com mittee the application, to a somewhat larger extent, of cer tain of those principles—(" Hear," from the Opp os iti on benches.) His (M r. G s) reason for so doing was that he thought the Right Hon. Gentleman had shown—(he was not . now speaking of the details of particular com missions) that he had been treading in the course taken by those who preceded him. The Right Honourable Gentleman, therefore, had not trusted to speculative reasons only. but he had been also able to point to what had been already done in the relaxation ofcommercial restrictions. Upon that ground also he (Mr. G.) asked the support of the House. He was fur ther disposed to take such a course, because he thought that the time which had elapsed since the plan of the Right Hon. Gentleman had been laid on the table of the House, no disposition had been shown in any quarter, to anticipate injury either to British or colonial in terests, from any portion of that plan. Another reason swayed his mind to ask the House to go even beyond the proposition of the Right Hon. Gentleman. If the condition of the West Indian producer of • sugar had been such, twelve months ago, as to render it advisable to have him relieved froru the restrictions to which he was subject, much more advisable was it at the present time. For although that 'Rinse was naturally and properly disposed to distrust all complaints on commercial distress, yet there never was a more real or severe case of distress on the part of any producer of com modities for, the British market than that now experienced—he would not say by - the East Indian planter, nor by the cultivator in Mauritius, but by the absentee proprietor of sugar plantations in the West Indies, a class which he (Mr. Gladstone) admitted it was most desirable to diminish. Nothing could give the West Indies so fair a prospect of maintaining competition with other portions of the globe (if they should ever be exposed to competition) than the transfer of the estates in those colonies from absentee proprietors to .either resident pro prietors, or a resident tenantry ; but he would not now enter into unnecessary , details. He only ' said that the distress of the West India proprietor was very severe, audible* he was subject to restrictions in supplying himself with necessary productions that others were not subjected to. -It was most imperative to afford him every relief in the removal of those re strictions. He hoped it would be in the power of the House to simplify the laws in that respect. The 3d and 4th of Wm. IV., cap. 49, had in point of fact simplified the previous acts on the subject ; but there were also other laws enacted before that statute and others subsequent to it, which introduced some degree of complication into its application. It would be necessary then to re peal some of those laws and to consolidate the others, With respect to the changes be was about to propose, he would speak first of those changes which were new in their character, and unsupported by the , precedent of the measure of last year, He should propose to the 'Committee to abolish any duties which were leviable in the colonies upon arti. ties being the produce of Great Britain. The principal , imposition of that kind at present existing was the duty on spirits; and he proposed the abolition bt that duty not because it was not desirable that spirits should be taxed, but because it appeared to him that their taxation i upon the authority of the Imperial Parliament was 'not in itself necessary, and was scarcely compatible with,the pro-, raises which had b een h e ld out in the. Deciaratioo 40 . gf 1778, In that Act the Itnperial r arl ; arppidpV6 BTRIPIse to the Colonies that the King and Pt:Aliment of Great Britain should not impose any duty, tax, or assessmeml whatever, payable in air of his M4jestrs . ckkligt w. Pr e o s v t in l c n e d s, ies a , ntl ex l c ' e la p n t tat o io n n ly s insuNchortldiuAtym, e a r s ica it ° ln r og : n l '4 , be expedient to propose for the regulation of c jar , merce. Now, he did not think that any duty 1 . posed upon all articles alike in the Coloolll,lrell't 51 or any duty imposed upon articles of British gi _ o coup be fairly said to fall within the terms 11 °' .4, , duty for the regulation of commerce. It belo e d. •evel' a - " • to the, class of revenue duties, and .as a 1 h . ct duty it appeared to him to be a .proper "It for the cognizance of the Colonial Legislature itselti.ey was true that with respect to Canada, and he Lia m 7 0 also with respect to Newfoundland, there ; al . considerable sums at present levied by 10 '1' e h w-' d taxation upon British goods, and lest any inconveltle"o should arise from the sudden removal tll,t j. duties by the I mper i a l P ar li ame nt, he Pa ul l posed to fix th e d ay f or the °P etii ii tt o of the Act at such a period as would afford ample t the for an adjustment of the subject, and as would eneh °, l i t , Colonies to make such provisions as they He asked the assent of the House to that plan, upon th e g. o e c that it offered an opportunity, without practical inconventr. ich of giving a more full and strict application of theprinciple r aw , they long ago adopted of tendering to our colonial, le'`,„e /fr i subjects evidences of that good-will to which, and to e wi c ;:, • alone, he believed they were to look for cementing th neaioa between the mother country and her distant poss",„,, s —( Hear, hear.) There were other changes which be i might thinreouad propose to the Committee, founded upon the same pro At present the tenor of the law was to this effect, that cert7f articles, not being the produce, or growth, or manufacterreisio the United Kingdom, should pay a certain duty, tha t " 5 01- articles should be free, and that all other unenunneratedi . 0. des, should be subject to a duty of 15 per cent. ad e g f,'l t e isli Now, it appeared to him, with respect to foreign artieles,"_ro, in no degree or manner competed with articles of Britisetl: o f duce, any tax which was levied upon them by the autbe r ' v oi d the Imperial Parliament, was strictly taxation for revenl t o not taxation for re gu l a ti on o f commerce . It appenl i m. most convenient course f or P ar li ament , an d t h e m ost set'sall tory for the colonies, that inttead of a system of taxati o a,,,. d articles whateve r i n t ro d uce d i n t o th e C o l on i es , n ot low ia P e et British growth, p ro d uce , or manu f ac t ure , th e Govern to should select such articles as they might deem it neeea' s { all tax for protection or otherwise, and that the importatiollt other articles into th e co l on i es s h ou ld b e l e ft free.s°' s respected the authority of the Imperial Parliasnee" we • rs many of the colonies the Customs' establishment a ,o e /r, a source of yositive expense to the countrY-1 t he hear)—for they did not pay the expenses ei t o officers they required.f He would, therefore, now inrd e to Committee that it was the intention of the Board of • In call the attention of the Government to this great ses'i oo se In many of the colonies there were two sets of Custom' a i t. officers, which caused a great waste of public money. ° s op ', would be nece ssar y t o conso lid a t e t h ese esta bli s h me nts t ° i d ' ' expense and inconvenience .—( H ear , bear.) It w °° ora l also necessary that th e C omm itt ee s h ou ld approve of the g e f d ' of frame of the me asure , an d s h ou ld concur w i t h th e B a t' t • ns te Trade that it was p rac ti ca bl e t o ge t r id o f cer t a i n exertlost Ir now on the statutes. The necessity for these exe l de% would be removed by doing away with the cor respe° lo . ' duties from whit h they wer e e xemptions. The prineili o t• emptions he proposed to remove were those of grain and t ' flour, and salt meat provisions. He believed it was the f o ld ral desire of the people of Canada that a moderate tai e be imposed on provisi o ns c o m i ng in f rom Am e rica, esi e t the those kinds al rea dy mentioned ; and he believed, tha. t ,' / lie I present moment o n the American side, a very canoe'!" ~ ! import-tax was payable on gra in fl our from C a nada I ' 3 o o amount of 10s. a quarter. He would not propose to inspie e 4 , o o than 3s. a quarter on that coming ,rum the United rio t This would be done principally with reference to the fact an d Canada had already sent considerable quantities of grai n te ed, flour to ether parts of the empir e , and she was likely t 0 ;pea much greater supplies whe n her c apabiliti e s were cie v e ori under peace and a wise legi s l a ti on .—( Hear, h e ar.) Theio of the la w was , t o g i ve an a d van t age -t o C ana dian prode' e oe the British market ; an d it was d es i ra bl e th a t w h en we see, tbs sands of emigrants to North America, we should not al l° "deli inhabitants of the United States to enjoy the privileges i nt ' - pre for the encour agemen t o f B r iti s h su bj ec t s , by s e n ding th o , l z ,`,,tel visions throu g h C ana d a . Th ose p or ti ons o f the United ' co y which bordered on the lakes could send their provisions a c ' . sev, veniently to the ports of Canada as they could to those ° b ola York, or other parts of the Union. A distinction llt ' therefore be made in favour of the Canadian farmer . no ,d (Mr. G.) would now state his resolutions. The first P rl ' o r o es; the repeal of all existing duties; the second imposed new host' the third and fourth provided that these duties 1001. be in addition to any duties imposed by u authorities, and some other details; the fifth eta fu r for emptions from duty in favour of articles We chss' British fisheries; the sixth referred to the produce of th e , i ,,, , e3; nel Islands, stating when its introduction would be and the seventh provided for the consolidation of the C ps tea' establishments. It was also proposed that should b' 1 ,1 bt duced duty free. The advantage of this permission wi n oo ist" that a necessary of life would be much cheapened to e ° te tar and that sugar would in consequence be sold at a lower 1 4 , pet the British consumer. He would propose a duty . of barrel upon fish dri e d or salted, and of 3s. upon pickle, W I ; upon butter, ha. per c wt. upon cheese, ss. per ca r jig' ought to say that the rate of duty here would be high er ti et" the duties whi c h th e Ri g ht H on . G en tl eman pro posed i lip of seven per cent., though lower than the present rat e ' ot os; coffee, he would continue the duty of ss. per cwt. On relies' 3s. per cwt. ; molasses, 30. per cwt. • and on a sugar, 55.-per cwt. With regard to tea, he would Pl o so' somewhat different plan •from the Right Hee, Gent'cbio He should propose that tea, unless imported direct (ran o. it or the British possessions, should pay. a duty of 9d. per / veil point would arise here which it would be necessary t°, viz , at present the importation of tea from the Unite' a ter was prohibited in. Canada, and the importation of tea t; Ori way was subject to a duty of 3d. per lb. The effect of rt i v o ile this prohibition would be that tea in Canada from theh cooli States would be subject to a duty of 4d. per lb., vc,h c a i s ootf b ) manifestly afford a high premium to the smuggler. 11 ! 0 131, it was stated by the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Lou ° G a ol , in • ~p last Session, that three-fourths of the tea used LIT- -r to w h e was smuggled into that province • if they were to In o r/ , therefore, apply to Upper Canada, without an y rese t Melt they would greatly aggravate that evil. H e p rg ose-u, fore, the providing for thi s ca se by a se p ara t e c l ause io i lass . , postponing, the enactment till the Legislature of t ,tle n i should have time to take the matter into c0n5ia640,.% The next article was that of spirits. 'ln this, also, he efts d w u r t t y h u th p e on ßig fo h r t ei H gn on s . p G iri e t n s tl p em re a c n is . ely lle proposed to allaoeti as it ato m Pr ; Oh namely. 6d. per gallon upon rum and Is. upon o tbej The effect of the measure would be to leave the : r e?" ti'tn of duty, otherwise than as it related to British in . e „ , el e entirely in the hands of the provincial legislature. Th e i :: l ,ll / the whole of the rateage duties which he proposed at t , 0 ment to submit to the House. He would now proceeol; ja; schedules of the ad valorem duties. It might be tha t rio rif t not included in the schedule every article which in rt,,o as ought to be included. He was net at present a ware,.: ro 13 , ,; had been omitted ; but if it should turn out that te` jar s . se at°, been, it woull be open to those who might be dap° , 1 0 to claim the benefit of that principle. The first articie, aro tj schedule of rateage duties was sugar. Unrefined 5 ,% mained as at present. 'He proposed that sugar refined 4 til t should be subject to a duty of 10 per cent. ad valorels , ee l; o f other foreign sugar should be subject to a duty of 20 raot,t,e ad valorem. The Canadian Legislature 'levied one penny per pound upon all refined sugar' teie ° ;l Imperial Legi s l a t ure h a d i m p ose d a duty °` jat, ai l per cent.. upon foreign refined sugar. This to twenty per cent. ad valorem, was computed t 0 tat ioo; e 6 to Id. per pound, according to the customs and regu' il , es. d/ Canada. But there was no proposition in the Act tR, t that the duty upon foreign refined sugar should bell' e ffects' to the duty upon sugar refined in this country. Tliti9b„,"to this, at present, was one of peculiar hardship to the'• , /i tsP r e liners in bond. He did not propose to give any 01. 1 at i$ the British refiners of foreign sugar, which they did 11° o ° ,]l sent enjoy, or whi c h th e y h a d not a f a i r r i g ht t o enjoY• to sq e i was perfectly evident, that this preference was mearnl. to them, and th a t at pr ese nt th e y did n ot enjoy ' t ' even laboured under a disadvantage, for the Ameri ca .; / 0;o was encouraged by a considerable bounty to export le c o ,f sugar into the Canadian market.—( Hear.) Then b e a dot tie r the list of articles which he proposed to place unde r o h! o f 7 per cent. ad valorem. They were these :—Win e " a r 5 ,1 ' 0' bottled or not, manufactures of cotton, manufacture' d Aili: linen, of woollen, of leather, of paper, of bar +ioojee clocks and watches, oakum, pitch, tar and turr e t ' io cP / se blubber, fins of fish, and skins of fish, were at prese t ' , 0 0v e ,, , 0f in the prohibitory enactments. He proposed to r e ,clo' t ' e s' prohibition from these articles, and to lay upon ther ° oo Opt 15 per cent. ad valorem. He thanked the House K o pea„pes tion which they had .paid to' his statement. He ,`"1 / there Were very few of the topics which c ould possi b t ioe of to dispute in that House; and he was confident th s , e o, ef er sure which he had proposed would be h ai led as he good will on the part of the Imperial Parliament, 1 0• 1' th e fore, alike upon commercial and upon national g r t i o a ° ventured to commend it to the favourable consider s ` House.—( Cheers.) c alf The SPEAKER having put the motion, 4(1 10 Mr. , LABOUCHERE said, he had listened to tbe b ; ti l t ? and able statement of the Right Hon. Gentleman!' t WO iv, sat down, with very great, and, he might add, svi t 'L t l satisfaction. The Bill which had then been pr o P ° 'ls, same in principle, as well RI in m an y i m p or tant aet.,,'o 'cot which he had had the honour to introduce in the and he could assure the Right Hon. Gentleman, th P .o o ",i s' ; (Mr. Labouchere) failed in his attempt, he still r` aft if/ solicitude and affection of a parent for that tnea sn ; c o t o f re m assistance which it was in his power to give toira''as $ gir t , it should be readily granted.—( Hear, hear.) ft:: cb„„ e a lte ` O l to confess, that as, far as he had been able to W ei l , Hon. Gentleman, the alterations which he prof " In - jafe'; the measure were improvements. He had ova' i t ieq i i i i6 the time which hewhd elapsed, and of the oppoite,', . aO ro po',' mation which possessed, to reconsider the poke - f 'the P - gits' t o he could not yet pronounce a final opinion on h ", alterations, at first sight they appeared to be ie l P . 9 , • e e.- s! .. e (Hear.) The most important of those alteratio°o, to t!,,h'b, be the proposal to enable the Legislature o f Col r 0411 3 1$ ",1 flour of the United States which crossed the botl'ee'veet-elide te het believed the Imperial Parliament had ale's) . * i w r . a s Legislature from doing. He hoped nothing 50° .. re ,,e t e• than to leave it open to them to follow any e o u r l , to 'S St el a might think proper • that there was no intenni o ite to eff: b t so as to prevent the free ' import of flour from th e d w i s h e Nr is into Canada, Unless the Legislature itself shou l w b a t t?,,to t gv that object. It was unnecessary for him, after,„' n gth in ` Hon. Gentleman had stated, to enter at any lach i w ea sor e ,, / , question. He entertained the same opinions w d t he 0 o f Jr ( ) ) pressed in the last Parliament. He consider e me asef as wh' l .o of the utmost importance, viewed merely ot n he opi°„sot "' h ie tice to the Colonies. He continued to be ot, l ,.`"p a rlin e sisvo . the Right Hon. Gentlemen had quoted, that, t el 'a u tiet coa r o l what course it might with regard to after tout upon upon articles imported to this country , d to t ees which Parliament had taken with rega t t a /3 g Ab e Indian possessions—namely, that of Pl i ssi ne duce of the East and West Indies upon the toe W e su b . le‘l if ,/ was but an act of common justice to relieveere no w neo r .i colonies from those burdens to whieh theY c w ro wn 01 1 Parliamentary enactment, but which the r Ausl, r n hel,4 , posed upon our Indian empire, or upon 1 0 4 0 was thisthat flies, where the legislation upon these matte to ' e b i t riSe,,„• the of the Crown.—( Hear, hear ,) He Ine:l °L ., e from a nd '444 sure brought forvvard. He could not di'l 4nl with r e - g e° s ugar adv' -- it would facilitate those important reformo,_ duties levied in this country, es peciallyl _" sk t he —( Hear, hear,) Of course, he did not sohit:fs 4 1 1 1 . 1 1 Gentleman to express an opinion on the! f •1 4 1 / 0 " Jr sent occasion ; but he hoped that'e 1, e pe_° os rots ag la ur t r i oPa had i 'peenenl i ve: bh t g i a :a u tgtil forward, o 'hid sveiee•nwas: anda 91 I°t: 'sole. deliberationthat GGo vern a m n e d n i t n t v o e s w t i li g i a c t h i o h n e t v h i t y i on, should that, also having 4i ti o o n t e i po justice t w o sau t si t h da o , : a t t r i c ; ° ;; be n r : °l o ;l P,lt: b / c4 11 , -* S o n e l tn i t: 6 l : Pi o l o ' re e : , ' (Cheers.) He trusted that t, h ey W ol]." 1 , , of ev er , o s cussing sect pcoor Great aiudt Britain.h aece. w d ,ui h o ; y ei re odw t w h o s o uoo s lu e di dhn d eolie ' a : of As f u ture 0 t h e e 1 qty lie lip W rt e i n g lg t o i ll o y tl r . ep G e ena . t t t i h e a m t a h n e . hadand htheaYear.rp;:hbiPneno;2l:pttiteh:.!reeoteu:Seili:Vteiive:::llielelf had defended hi s measur ,,, than which n one hor es ore squad end inst s with the greatest s atisfactie n in a t' the w at with . ti , e Right 'Hun. Gentleman's expectation.% 6,00.1! Pileet with little opposition, woul4 ,!! MORNING SUN Stu arty. veil frnr best iv a Or ; 4 1k, th e . rot Itte, , fr,,t 01 1 of • 16 off gTe • ( 4 , t ee kr the w z inE t 1 4i •\, thc, 11 (2 , 1 sit; th; , f (1 1