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stalt e , Royal d' A W c ~ too! ► [ing to ;i the - • ing e neo" , e y re' arked 7 a thiri that O ourteell his • Qn board the Ilomida, Captain Pechell .was deSit'otis of affording every .facility to her Royal Highness, but there was one circumstance he wished rii , lo to s iz r p ii r i e e s e s o h n 6 her be Royal gied toi h t l is ig is h t n o e il s ! , t A her sa e officer, he could not sit at the same table with a man who had but lately beeri a Courier it would be " dishonouririff me,". he said, to do so, I nd he sent a messagelo trial effect to her Royal b ights. At first she treated it 'lightly ; but, my i Vrels, was th a t arrangemen t, ma de to save Capt. R ~ebliell f ro th the necessity o f k ee ping up 2 tables? 0 1 and if it was, Capt. Pechell would have wished such sacrifice. It could not benefit Captain for he: had provided' fot Bergami elseWh-,- ere.- One would have imagined this refusal Was enough ; hilt, no, her Royal Highness take 4 a day or twb" to consider, refuses to make the sa c,r.ificeW requested' by the Captain, and Betgami flies and associates with her. by do I men ." this - ? To strew that the-course pursued by L'er Royal Highness was not that fair, simple, str aightlforward , course which innocence •would h ave observed and propriety have suggested. We p r oceed 'to Catania, and there' we find the apart vueuts changed. Her Royal Highness slept in a r ."rn adjoining that of Dumont, and on the other T i d e of Dumont slept the ConnteSs of Oldi.— ergami being ill was put in her room. Dur t4g th e p er i o d . D umon t an d Lebrun slept be ween the' room s o r the Princess and Bergami ; th ey left - the room generally at nine o'elock in the the morning. Before that they snide no O bservation as to the doors. of the several ro oms -bein g c l o s e d or shut. But one morn ing, about ten o'clock, het Royal Highness Ids seen to come out of Bergami's room, With the pillow under het 'arm on which she 1" 11 .i ally slept ;• she sees Dumont, she eyes het, passes to het': room without saying any question to her, contrary to her usual custom: No gr r tion was put on this part of the case by , 1-4 earned Counsel for her Majesty, but your li n r ' s hips thought' it right to put some queS fo--4* You asked Dumont if she were called on aittend'her Majeity? To which . she answered I °,' You asked her how long she was 10 7 t ? For two hours. Did she see her. Royal 11 :gutless pass through her room ? No. So at if her evidence 'be correct, Bergami and the p r in cess must have been for two hours toge ther On that morning. This, i t may be said, 4 . a ware on t h e ev id ence o f . D umon t ; a nd I am ItWar e it is so = but fortified as it is. by all the Other facts I have stated, facts now in evidence, think your Lordships cannot doubt of the na ture of that intercourse described in the pream ble of this Bill. For the purpose, ho . wever, of t 4l , Peachin g the testimony of Dumont, two of ri tee of h er lett ers h ave b een r ead, which are f of praises on the many virtues of her Royal •.Ighness.‘ I have no interest to detract from t i ! l est praises, and knowing the race from which her Royal Highness has sprung, I can easily be- H ere h owever that she possesses them. But generosity, exalted, sensibility however amiable, -4(l. chari s ty however bountiful, may exist in that Person who has become the slave of a degrading z . o ljassi "- The history of ,the world shows they 2,3' co-exist .nor is there any one who knows various'at but passions inhabit the human breast, sh arn ran i . s t lament such virtues should be lost in a L orti et ul and degrading intercourse. Look, my at th s, at the scenes described at Pesaro—look on " e miserable intrigue that has .been carried ra th ere, and you can at once. see the view, cha-, vi ,, cte r, and t em pe r in which these letters, were Bergami came to her while she was 4 ' l . l ', l tmg them, he imposed upon her a relation 1 1 : a tool o f his Own ; she puts .the letter with f own hands into the Post-office ; and, on the oh "'ing morning, to the disgrace of everyone liceerned in the transaction,she finds it in the hands he Princ ess . Th a t wa s n ot only a breach "of pri- N t e confidence, but an act of perfidious treachery. th at lother letter also was opened and altered, and in th altered state put into the post-office; and t henc e reached its destination. Why were those on , e js stopped ? Because the correspondence tie part of th e ma id,Brunet was carried on earl Y by the Princess herself. It appears that t ' ul ont was atta c h e d to the Princess, and k-now honßl h o , v the' letters would be intercepted, and 1 44 : the correspondence was carried on,, she must Rd known an d f e lt th e y would of necessity ththu their' way to her Royal llighness. 'When, erefore yeur Lordships are. construing those gi v erS s yoll mint attend to those circumstances, nig, as they do the clue to those exaggerated erai st , s . 001 of her Royal Highness, .and which were , fri Y rneapt to conciliate her friendship and good s a i" to the sister of Dumont. , Something is , O f d tt 4 bout her coming over here in the situation kno„,._governess'; but the moment it would be d ow " at Pesaro, she might think it would draw sis te rs the indignati o n' o f the * Princess against her the sitl: and to avoid this and secure her sister in itiear:,i t t a a t t i i ng on she then filled, she wrote these let that her Royal Highness could now h em e - I , ll Q . fear she would ever bettay the secrets of Irer 'toYa 1 Highness's household. Three letters 1 ) , e produced and proved 'by Dumont to have s "t; only ' two of Which were carefully s e d by the L earne d G e ntlemen at the other s ' 1 1 1 : 1 ;. h'Of mode • they had their reasons for of proceeding ; but taking the explanation as well as the letters, your Lordships h a tl y s t - he satisfied of theteal object for which they tati e ed heen wr i tten. Your Lor d s hi ps h ave b een ap p , upon to i mpeac h h er test i mon y, because' it d at' Varia nce w i t h the t one o f her, letters. lit 1 c O , ll know..l am a d dress i ng persons w h o w ill ca to i ° righ t and just conclusions,' and who Wri t ell me, fit is n o t o b v ious that they were ` I) te n with th e in tent i on o f b e i ng seen by her us °)Tal Ighness ; and if such be the case, to make • th e . her' . " extr going to impeach testnpony. avngant in the extreme. Many of the paS- Le s"in stil i e n se as 'letters were' expressly deSired to it ri e : t ri ntlunicat e d to her' Royal Highness,,, 4 . 04 i t a , n , ialmost natural- they should have been as I\;crozie.ixfia€‘ttiliatistiomnaangyi.oof them were? On. the this, what was ..elicited?, j oin that the delicacy of tfie witness pre ner mentioning the name of a person who was there -spoken .of. . But it may be said, the letters were therefore considered confidential ;. but that by no means follows. It is of no con sequence to him or to me, or thit. all Europe and the world should know what passes in this place. These letters, however, a ffordedthe only hope of my Learned Friends 'to impeach the evidence of Dumont, ari evidence which iii its "general charac ter, is supported by every witness who has been sworn. Brunet was not in the room at Catania; and of course cannot tell What 'happened, neither was she in the room at Naples. Was there no thing improper, nothing at all mysterious in, this, connexion of the' Princess with Bergami ? Was he advanced, solely from his merits, from his fidelity, and his respect, to an, honourable Mis tres's ? If he were, then, DuMont speaks as to what she has seen occur after his elevation, and that not on one, but on very many occa sions. If the connexion was not improper— if the connexion was pure, why may he not be opposed to Dumont, and say to her, what you have said is false, what you have said is not the truth,,and you are improperly . aspersing the cha racter of one of the most amiable and virtuous Princesses ? On the ultimate issue, however, my Lords, you will see in what situation this witness stands. At It Bergaini was hired as a cou rier ; he always continued as one, when all at once he comes into the service of her Royal Highness. In a few month's he is raised to the dignity of an equerry—then,made an head cham berlain—then he is decorated with the Order of a Knight of. Malta; after, a Knil,-,ht of the Order of the Holy Sepulchre; he is also made Grand Master of another Order, and, all this through the favour, and at the soliciiation of her Royal High ness ! This man who, - a few months ago, was a courier in a menial situation, is 'all at once found to be possessed of considerable property too, even at the very gates of Milan; a man who lived with Gen.Pino for 3 livres a day, is Ota sudden not only decorated with orders, but;receiving those substan- , . flat marks of favour from her Royal Highness What is the cause of all this? What entitled•him to all these favours ?—My Lord's, I do not -men tion this as 'conclusive, but. only . as it serves to confirm other facts which have been disclosed be fore your Bar. It is - impossible to explain her Royal Highness's extravagant attachment to this Man in any other way than, by supposing. their intercourse to have been as we haVe described it, and as your Lordships must believe it to havebeen. Another 'circumstance happened at catania, to which I must beg to call your Lordships' atten tion. You will be pledsed then to recollect that a picture 'of her Royal Highness was painted as a penitent Magdalen. Every body knows what it is, and to ask for a description of it would be idle. It has the upper part of the person consi derably exposed. It has been proved to you that this picture was found in the possession of 13ergarni,, and may I ask you for whom do you think it was painted ? You will, no doubt, say for Bergaini ; and you will be the more satisfied it was so, when you also recollect that a portrait of him was found in a box of her Royal High ness. He is painted as a Turk ; she arranges the turban, "she adjusts the upper part of 'the, dress, and says, Je aime nt' ieux 'tontine', ca. Now why all this? . But I shall merely state facts, and 'leave all commentary to yOur Lordships' judgment. 'On board the Clorinde, Captain Pechell never went into her Majesty's apartments, but Dumont sees .Bergami in his great coat lying in one bed, and herii,oyal'High ness in another, near him ;. but I pass on, and mention'facts. At Augusta, a vessel was lilted for the Grecian voyage ; and at Messina, every other arrangement was made for it. On each side of the ship was a row - of cabins ;at the end, a saloon or dining,rooin, traversing the whole ship, and two sleeping-rooms beyond that ; in the dining-room there were two doors contiguous to the cabins Of Bergami and . the servants. On the vessel's arriving at Augusta, her Royal ,High ness altered these arrangements, and ordered the door contiguous to the bed-rOom of the wo men to be shut up, while Bergami's door opened into the saloon or dining-room. Next they went to Utica, and, as elsewhere,. the arrangement of the beds of her Royal Highness and Bergami was the same. Shortly after leaving Tunis an alteration Was made in Bergami's sleeping-place, and the doors were so managed that it, was im possible to interfere with any intercourse carried on between him and her Royal Highness. This Continued to -Jaffa, and here another alteration was made ; a tent was raised upon the deck, and two beds were placed in it, one for her Royal Highness, and another for Bergami, which lasted for a period of six weeks. At' the Villa d'Este, see what was said as to the occurrences there by, an host of witnesses ; compare these with the familiaritiei they practised on board a vessel ; the Captain and the Mate swearing to their sitting on. the same gun together, to their kissing, to their embraces ; Bergami on the 'sofa, her Royal Highness leaning over him, in such a manner and under such i circumstances, as the Captain thought to be so indelicate that he or dered the crew at a distance, in order that they might not witness them. If these things be true, can there be any doubt as to the conclusion your Lordships"will be bound to come to ? This was felt on the other side, and in the early part of this inquiry questions were put to sliew, that a communication existed from the tent to the dining room .; there .was such a tgommunication, and .Bergami availed himself of his private retreat and went below. 'Bergami ptit out the light on that occasion; in the morning, however, the tent is open and Bergami is found thete ,in bed ; and your Lordships are, requested to believe this hypothesis,,. that Bergami came up from his, sleeping room in order to be seen on his bed in the 'tent. ' 'Can 'your Lordships be induced to 'believe all this after the evidence you have heard ? During the day, a.ud after .dinner three or four ;times 'in the week, they. lie on their beds in the tent, The curtains fire closed :by an express order. of, .her lhoyal HiglmeSsfor what ? Are you to, assume an ,act of Adultery was . not.,cornmitte,d under such circumstances ? The Captain and I2, 0 4mo:1 - 4, and all contradict the assertion that he slept else where.. 11 I rr, than near theWrinceSs's -room, and.all the natural inferences to be draWn from their general conduct go in` aid of the'tesiVriony they have given: Where is the impeaehment of the. - 61: dence ? Five persons have spoken to what•oc ctirred .polacca,' and as' the case at pre sent stands, have I not shewn you the tra.ns6c- , tiOns that pasSed'auring the - periods tO"wiiieli.l have, called your Lordships' attention i . • The - Learned Gentlemen at the other side asked the Captain nothing abbut the'facts, but they asked him what do you get ? How much Were• you. promised"? TheSe were the' questions: of my Learned Friendi, but which'of . • your Lordships did not see the manner in which he gave his evi dente ? -He swOrelte was reluctant to come over. here, and that he only got a fair eqUivalent for coming. And mark the fairness and the candour of This witness,' who, when asked if he got more than a fair equivalent / says 7 cannot tell if it be • more or . less, haVe a speculation, which, if un fortunate, 'it will be more, if - I succeed, it Would be less: Indeed, every . one at all familiar with the :Courts Of justice 'must be aware of the ex: tent of the remuneration allowed to personS in the situation of the Captain oC the polacca-L-and that' the' Suni'he received was not more than he ought to have been 'paid., Then see- the cau tious guarded 'manner in -WhiCh he 'gave the whole of his evidence, and ask yourselves, my Lords, if he came here•for .the purpose of •preva ricating, or swearing to acts he-never saw. • The same obserVations apply , to Garguilo. He con firmed the evidence • of. Paturzo. I now', my Lords, leave this case as to the polacre, entirely to your Lordships' judgment. Your knowledge of men and manners, 'will enable you to draw such inferenCes as' the evidence given will war rant ; and evidence, give me leave to say, which' if not•diSproved, can only lead to one conclusion —and justify the preamble of this Bill. Your Lordships will not fail to remark - , that her Royal Highness on this occasion ordered a bath to begot ready below, and Majocci prepares it in the bed room of her Royal Highness. The Princess and Bergatni-go into that room, where they are shut up for half an hour or an hour, and he subsequently calls Dumont to dress her, Ma jocci all the while remaining in the anti , . room. This is confirmed by,Dumcint, who says she fotind her Royal Highness in her bed-gown. admit she does not say whether the bath was in the bed-rOom or the dining4oom ; but Majocci, who prepared it, has sworn it was in the bed- room ; and can you suppose, under these circum stances, that pumOnt came over here to give false testimony,? What was the conduct of her Royal Highness at Aum?' What from Jaffa to Jerusa lem? At Aum a tent was erected, and two beds prepared, one for her Royal Highness 'and the other for Bergami ; their hours of repose were the same—they were enclosed within it together. ThiS fact indeed, is riot disputed, but a different colouring. is attempted to be 'given to it: It is asked ; was she undressed ? No; she was in her petticoat. . Was he undressed ? No ; he had•on his great coat and his drawers : yes, and there Were two persons in an outside room ; but what of all that, what inference is to be drawn from this circumstance, preceded by so many others of the same - sort ? The fad is, they try to recon , elle their case•with ours, and all they have got out about 'their not being undressed .can in no de gree answer the inference which can alone be drawn from the situation in which they are sworn to have been. I admit there is no direct evidence of adul tery then taking Place ; and that is because they lived so' long in this species of intercourse, that it was. not particularised on that occasion. It will k unnecessary for me to advert to what passed at Jerusalem. But I fear, my Lords, in going through this evi dence that I shall,be obliged to take up munch of your Lord ships' valuable time; yet in order to avoid that• as much as possible, 1 shall 'now dismiss the polacca, and remind your Lordships of what occurred at Terracina. pergami discus . harked there, and after two days, absence returned to the vessel. Her Royal Highness .meets him on his arrival, and they resume their. intercourse under all the circumstances of mats and wife. Then, my Lords, taking all the facts we, have offered in evidence, see how continued the story is, bow well all its parts bang together, After the metorn to Italy they took op their, residence.at the Barona; therelme would imagine a person of, the exalted station•of her Royal Highness would have selected suitable companions ; one would imagiue in a city remarkable for its hospitality, that her Royal Higilness would have been surrounded by all the dignified and the great in that capital. But how will your Lordships be surprised to find such a person proposed at the. Cassinir at Milan, and her ad mission to mt negatived Does her Royal Highness live there in seclusion, living Unit philissophical life,•-enjoying that dig nified retirement beComing her rank and station ? For these purposes she might have avoided society,. But what is the society and what.the amusements Within the house of her Royal Highness ? Her society is with the lowest persons, in situation, in talent, in morals ; with those who are profligate and debauched in the extreme. This is the society her Royal Highness lived in. But this is not the charge against her; and I only use it, as an argument to, slew it to be the na• coral resu lt of that dt•gr:ding connexion into which her Koval Highness fell at the consequence of her guilty at tatliment. 'Her Royal Highness united around her those people ; 4nd here the Barona reminds me of a circumstance which g i ves me tic)P the name of Mahomet• I kno w .the sn e ers and the p a in, so much s 9. that I sh all onl y men contempt with which this was received' by the other side; hut sums after its overpowering effect stunned toy Learned Friends, and they forbore any further questions respect ing it. Is this nut, my Lords, of the same character with all the other facts we have proved, but ,ptished to a much further excess than the other scenes at the Barona ? Her Royal Highness might probably have seen this ones, ; hot if she had the feelings of a virtuous woman, would she hare tolerated the repetition of such an' exhibition; would she have laughed' and beeh amused at rather _that turn off the criminal individual wills ignominy fromt bet presence? The whole of these circumstances Op only. lead ; to one conclusion. While at Barona her Rohl ,Ilighis,ess t o ok.a - totir to Germany. And at the first inn alie-,stopped the same alterations were made in ,the bed-room as on a ll the former, occasions. This fact is,n(tti, disputed, hot a 4:fi ff,„ iit co l our _ is te/Apted to he put Itp,on chart the whole story does not want a talk to Confirn) True; this in a great meastoe depends on the evitteni Dea umont, which is still liab le, t o be contradicted, if the y can. . liutlet us p ass o n to Carlsrulte. At Carlsruhe•their contiguous' tif each other, and the servant , Kranti ; a' are als „ cat ion, saw I3ergami hed, Isis arm white, th e P r i oress on the s ide of his bed, and hivarm twined.round h er neck; ~u enter ing the dour , the Queen st arts and the ehtuntwrthaid retires. Tkisstory the servant tells at tb 011ie, in c onseq u ence o f which the fact comes to l' e kn own.. Site is now hrmight here e with 'diffi cu lty; anti,. as your Lordships have an lids Sy cow ported herself as to shew e ver y word she swore was true. From Carissil*' he begged leave to call their Lordshins' attention..! to what' took pl ice 'at . Triest e ; they • Chad the , ev i4ne of it person who lived in that p lace for nine years -, who told them that he waited upon the Pr incess, arid lie called their atteti tion to what was a ilost, important part of hiS testimony. He, h a d, -a - 3 Yip:stated, 'been in the habit,of waltiok, wrol of oh- serving liergami. come out of the room of the Princess with, o ut his. krawers, in his ; slippers, going tow ar ds the moon of t h e Countess of- Oldi, led to his ownalinttrfient ; he , w . ent tath into.the room of Bergatni and that of her Royal. Highness, .and . the bed of 'hi , r'lloyal'High tiess ss4s • riut•rlis , ': Lusted, DgFgalpi's liada4 the appearanceappearanceappearance of has'. log been slept in by two persons. The character of this witness,was not inivraoliedi his frtin; wls . p . blelvtirat Ise cunt ilicted if it were not correct ; menillonettortferA . iitdications which it was nit then tivee'ssariltiqrtlrert tihibwt— atl prnvinv an'adotterous ;itterciitirse hirtweitri these - Iry - tees. Hr. now Dearly. eli4ed, but be-lteggolltiite..lo call. 'Lordships' attent;iiin to the testimony - 61 ts'itd , ,'ltiitinitscs lately examinr.d i Aastelli and Saccliii. atid,lie.oltoulo•first 4,f/ode' to Haste-Pi s s testimony, ht . 2cause in atpartictilar - eitctrutstance ite was corroborated. by. Sacch i , 'yorri hat the 'Princess' (Wont,. occasloit wertt out, to meet 13*g:roil; and ootinletling bin( for the first occasion, sh.e-again'Oczet out, And . Mat Orr Wet, they etnbraced.and kisied eacl, i;ther, and Abe . rrintess got mit of her carriage,; and W• lll:rid.. in tinit There was "anotbcr fact to which IZ•rstelli isattitly, the ohserOli9ll, bich lie had made a; r a ti.c pnsiti t ut of the hand . of her Royal Highness with .respreCtit ilrri..zatri.; and to this• fact, which it was only'necessary tit i he in the most positive, and distinct manner,' is tie'ai 4ed Friend, Mr, Den-- man,thouglitit advisable to cross-,exain ine this . witness with t bat degree Of accuracy Tod address fnr which he Was remarkable; hut tbe 'Tsui; of that cross-exanlinat ion was must unfavourable-to his cause, sirice.it de'Monsi rated beyond doubt that the wit ness detailed what he saw with his own eyes'isii hoot .c.)l.liir or.exaggeration. An attempt Was matte to trlttrillgid hint to inconsistency, and to spew that his character He was. asked_ if, he had nut stolen corn, and - I)eett distniised - from the situation of fier. Royal• Highness ;-if he had not been ' One of the most active agents of the Milatt C,ommission and lost Ills credit. He positively contradicts:tire, former imputa tion,,and.wilb respect to the latterlerious , charge, he tells your Lordships that lie was merely employed:in the situation of, courier, which he discharged faithfully, and to the dig chat cc of which,he apprenended,no disgraccould be attached. They came then, to the evidence of another person, the last witness examined, Giuseppi Sacchi, who had been for a year in the service of: her Royal Highness ' who had been raised frow a common soldier to the rank of Lieutenant in the Ita.:: • Ilan army ; who left the service of her Royal Highness, and received there no ordinary recommendation, but one of the 'highest characters that could be given or received. He. stated those facts already alluded to, Which had occur=. red at the Barona ; he stated also that ,lie went into tier- many with her Royal . Highness, and among all he stated, there were three or four facts so decisive in their nature that he would confine his observations to them. At Rupi, nrlli Ber<rat»i was ill, he had occasion to visit him, and he saw by the door, which was partly open, Bergami in 'his bed: that her Royal Highness also, was there in the room by the side of a bed on the sofa. He mentioned this as illustrative of that hind of intercourse which► never orcarred toccept between man and wife, or those who stood in the same relation, ann. if they believed those facts, the conclusion of adulterous intercourse was inevitable. • From a witness.-then, whose, character was not impeached, who stood, if possible, higher after his crossexarnination than before it, they heard such testimony as before any ordinary t i ribunal cotald nut leave a doubt but that the crime was committed. He Irtel thus ended, his .remarks upUit the evidence 'adduced in support of the 1301, and as he :before observed, he did not know what he had to combat, he bad made such observations upon the na ture of the testimony as occurred to him, and be could ap peal confidently to their Lordships' decision, whether the triumph in which his Learned Friends on the other side yesterday indulgtri was not premat ure—whether the proof had fallen short of the opening speech of-. the Attorney-Lie tieral. Before he sat down he was desirous of alluding to - . one topic, which bad been so much the,slittject of calumny and misrepresentation during the Milan Commis4lon.— It was impOssible not to know that reports of the most serious nature with respect to the conduct of her Ma jesty had spread 'oter Italy and a great part a Europe, and the course which was pursued in order to ascertain the truth or falsehood of those facts was one that must obtain the approbation of every unprejudiced and impartial inquirer. The Government sent to Milan a gentleman known to his Learned Friends and respected by every inan who knew hint, of pure and ..spotle3s integrity, of great legal attain ments, to sift the credibility of the story, to receive with that caution for which his high professional character fitted hint, all those reports and rumours that miriht reaelt hint. He was assisted by another gentleman of great prac tice and of considerable experience in another profession. A third gentleman, whose name bad frequently been men tioned in the course of the proceeding, he meant Colonel Browne, accompanied these gentlemen- 1 ;a man whom be hail not the honour of knowing, but whose character stood as ele vated and as high as any of those who bad dared to traduce him.. Government,had a right to appoint such a Commission, and had used its. discretion in selecting its members in the most satisfactory manner. He shottldnow apologise to the House for having taken up so much of its time. He trusted that he had neither Coloured nor distorted the evidence any way, and hoped that he might be allasYed to say, that he did aretst sin cerely and devoutly wish, that as the tesult of the present ift quiry, her Majesty might succeed in establishing to the full satisfaction of their Lordships and of the country, her unsul lied innocence. This was his mast fervent. wish, but as the case now stood, he conceived that the charges had been sub stantially made out, and that the facts stated in the preamble to the Bill had been fully established. • The SOLICITOR-GENERAL concluded at half past four o'cloa. . . Counsel *ere then ordered `to , Lord.LAUDERDALE wasdesironsolknoWing whether the Counsel on the part of her Majesty Utre prepared to e•o into the defence immediately,. or required sonic time for the pfir pose of preparing their case. Lord LONSDALE.said, that he was so lii,tle accustomed to trespass upon the attention of the Hous e , that be Crested tie might•be permitted to say few word; on Milt, had fallen front the Noble Earl on a former occasion- , -be meant on that pert of the Bill' which related to the' divorce, and from the ob servations of the Noble Earl, the House were inclined to sup pose that this part of the Bill would be dispensed with. . Lord LIVERPOOL wished' first of all to•remark,,That nn opinion could be formed on the evidence of the case they had already heard, and until they had gone thrqugh the whole of the evidence, they should keep their minds :clear front every impression. They wont& consider that all' the evidence they had hitherto beard might be completely and effectual) , repell ed.. He had stated before, and be repeated that statement; that the object of the Bill was not the relief of•an•individuat, bitt its object was public justice, it was to neliold the honour of the country. He,conld say most dist inet ly.:too, on the part of the Illustrious Ifulividual referred to, that he had not the least wish that this Bill should operate as a measure of per= sonal relief to himself. If when the shall go into the - Committee, the House should not agree to that ciente, 110 should he perfectly ready. to withdraw it. Whatever might he the result of the proceeding, he wished it to he understood. that the whiner itself was never undertaken astone•of per sonal relief, but fur the sake of protecting the morals and sustaining the reputation of the country. Earl GREY perfectly agrevil ,E ar l o pp os ite, in thinking that it was quite impossible at ;iiresent to form ally decision upon the evidence before them, and he did Out wish to prejudge what might be their ultimate decision: but lie could not help remarking, t h at a runreAntseasonahle and ill-tinted -observation than that made by • the Noble Lord (Lonsdaie) , never was• uttered in that House. it seemed to hini that the object of the Isrlable Lord was to o btai ts , frotd.ithe Noble Earl an acknowledgment that the objec tionakte clause was abandoned, and thin to influence Abe Counsel ,to alter 'their .mode of .defence. • .But no ansveci!.lcOui the Noble ,arl could. ever . profince•such aft .effect, foe they Were then hearing evidence not in support set a Paittlf and Penalties,. but also i.e-support of one. c Divoree,'and to such .a Bill. it, would be the duly of the Coun sel for -her,' Majesty .tn'eliply Weinselves.:' With respect to what lid 'been slated by7the Noble Earl, he received it then as he did on a former nedasion, with grear.satisfaction, name.. ly, that-petonah,tlfef , was.no part of the abject of that Bilk but he.rlltist'str& - it;a . his opinion; that charges were pr o vedicette:;crtisfrietion of their lordships, and he begged to sValitit he :did not eive.any °friction npon the ease at pre sent; helhotigitt the,.elalse ought nottt3llc expunged ;. for if her Majesty haul lo cieuttseted herssl4 itovottid not he proper that -rent:bin the degraded Consort of the Sovereignof this eountiy`; ao - • Lord LONSDALE in explanation .t t ems, that he certainly had no intention of• limitint. s tbe,4loeureeerf. the Queen. and -hamcfmcurced ,with,t he NoftleAui s ,ioolliilkillg that, any aecla ration 14, had 'required no such 1, 4 6 b1 6 e that o , !e , c n t, f:r b7 • Lord - LIVER L certairklVdrew co, i nsel were called Prfon nr" e. "l ts t were proved the 'obserYat ionetf the • NobVe Lorill:AreW nne,rstood hide to say was,. that he wished-lbeiquestiotiM be answered be fore Earl GREY explaineil.' '• • t bird DONOVOLINORE said;•the 'quiesti,en was, whether t Ire Quest waif on' was hot .deserving 601 - ie penalties attempt ed to be iMpoSed Ufaih if ita trite : hriSentevidencf.was only , Lalrtakyit. Counsel • The LORD CH'ANCEretOA . coin mu nicat,t.d to Mr.' B roirg t hat- the House itlatied ft). be intol•iueil whether he was I! e 4 i fy to p ro erit with hia -defence, or tv claim the delay pro preseit. • • • . . . .Mr.BROU6I-171M. said, that sarrallittlFil as he was with lie culiar arid fitit?gditfic . ..uties,' . theeatened and lueuaced