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s re• 1 this re the mina I) the tionSs erited fully O the Fon, iniy a ys3- 11e f Sir PiliCii , ppro' ed i° 110l 1 r . n in 00 there en, t° ques o urnol3 inter. !Fence eeper ,et, if ) Ita' 7 ,isiorl over' forfl 0 this TOSeelf 0111 riVa t° Sane` wove; no o ► n rivato ant 4 to the ill n° r mil biro, 11(itiCa ) lence ra ised or the k, t' rA re nd lb. K lithe':Eiill6" t tbVili till ugb I At li° jev oilf t i 3 tid (11 ; ,TVA • tees :d Per' ps of 1,6c00 ooe t.l 'oil"' leg arlf e oft ;leg) _ d o ,eriY Jev°4l' se): - et 0 114 0) cfl ce • Obi° oult r°6 , 6 , vOOl 0 le r fi t 1 Of" „10, 1 c or e- D 0 fUr O 0 ty i°'of Of on o n ovi e 14 : 1 5 ? Col'oe .4' ea ,P Sr tDC lOrt. VOR. THE SIN. GRAMPOUND. MR. Enrron-- - 1 have always considered, that it I"tild he best to transfer the right of electing two lletnhers instead of Gratupetund to the County of ; and my reasons were, first, " that County It 'Presentation was most desirable on any for fenure of Elective Franchise ; 2ndly, that, as it is, t he Representation of Yorkshire will always be ! I ' the hands very few families, it being mani festly inconvenient for any Gentleman not of im- Nense tort tine to contest the County ; 3rdly, that It is impossible for any two Members to attend to the concerns of the wnoLo County, Lord LAS. , 131.1,e5, the best County Member England ever II ", having with every assistance found his health give way to it." 1 am, however, much surprised to hear that an "PPosition has arisen in quarters least expected, bPon 'he ground that the Members for Yorkshire "I n 9 longer be ranked as the firsr in England, if th e County were divided into Ridings on Elec. ; by which reasoning, if there were only "18 MIS tither for Yorkshire, he would rank higher and vo_r the benefit of Representation would be nearly lost to the Coonty. I trust, however, that the House of Commons * in view this in iss true light. I Of) persuaded, it there were M em b ers for the differ e nt Ridi ngs , t h e b osine ss of the County must of necessity he bet. vi t er d one , f rom the division of labour. Th e W est ititlin ;; is folly sufficient of itself for two very ac tive Members ; and if two others were elected for t he North and East Ridings, I am sanguine t " ll gh to anticipate tri..ny highly important local Ith , Provements, and I trust that an attempt would t nen b e ma d e to /sling into full vigour the Coast p h`shelies of Yorkshire, and thus tiy to posiici "e wilh the Dutch in what has produced to them manymillions stertin . m. A FREEHOLDER OF YORKSHIRE. London, May 25, 1820. mutt 'UN. GRAMPOUND. „ A M R. EDlToa—it has been observed, that -I)B vPver may be said of the Electors of Grarn- ✓ )111 " 1, it cannot he truly said, as stated in - r otemporary Paper, that the right of re -11111til)g IS, mbets has been taken away from that B orough for its venality, and that its Fran :l'6es are nave vacant, and tree to be contested ")r by all England. The Electors of Grampotind are in the hill enjoyment of their elective Fran :,'"se. and have returned two Representatives to "' present Parliament, who are in the Ondis !wed poasession of their seats. The claim, as stat ed in the same Parr, for Leeds in preference Pr) Grampound, because of its great population • opnlenee, and because its Representatives Ivfollti b e heard w i t h more attention in the House °I Commons, need not now be noticed. as Gram- Ptotnti is not yet free for all England. Beffire 'hat ca n take place, it must be si.sturn that the tharte„,; Ri g hts and Ptivilegea of Grampound i ca n be taken away other than by due course of aft er the parties have been heard in their de jr h,.s been asserted in the same Paper, !, ) ,t the Elective Fr a nchise is a Trust, and that i tte ctors are Trustees for the Public. It is well 11 " n that th e sending Membets to Parliament h % origi na ll y cons id ere d as a d u ty hycammandsof Th e e 4 NG; on which account, so many towns in the est o f England, the immediate properly of s er yi e retw h. were burthened with Ibis expensive n ti t e "4 ,4 a n nt! so much greater was the expen-r, some towns could welt support, that b e es Petitioned, on account or their poverty, to parti'.xonerated from sending Representatives to e ver ) , n 'ent. It is therefore to he proved, bow l. 41 .4) , be asserted, that the Chartered Privi avi;" o ,f any one town can be taken away, Oilier or e ' H an by due course of law, without entian te_:.'g the rights and Privileges of every Char. or Corporate Body in the Kingdom. X. X. Mr. GRATTAN. • ti "nroor„, MAY 23.—Mr.GRATTAN, the Mem b e r for „ Dubli n, l an d e d here l ast n i g h t from the Zt aterto steam-packet. The pier was crowded to i,i) the sons of Hib ern i a , w ho were assembled t "' c ome their z ea l ous f r iend and distinguished I °°l4tr74 " l l. Ou his leaving the vessel be was h r-e ted with three hearty cheers, and hundreds is '3ed forward to shake him by the hind, but Pr"rn•o:rt frame was not able to hear their tiff„ t o Inuits of respect. The people drew him lits hotel. nte Deputation from the Irish Catholics *te -- 1 waited upon Mr. GRATTAN, the intervi•set it s. :re informed, save the Dublin Weekly ,Regisley. et oi 63 , nioSt affecting. Mr. GRATTAN sat in in reu-enair, imitthet up in a blanket, end apps. hat,sink in to t h e l owest sta i e of p h ys i ca l ex' Itt e. l'n• Ile was surrounded by Mr. PLUNKETT, h e „ ll4 Rovres, and other persons of distinction. ris e : 11 11 'e dep utat i on entere d h e ma d e an effort to *oi l '," was unable to support himself. His first ar e ot We rt--` My triends, I am going to nie-.-we lire set 7 t to part for ever All the gentlemen Ives ev inced the s t ro n g est emotion. and these tt ikr ,.:t one of th e entire group Who did not shed CRIM. CON. 101 b 81 R JOHN DOYLE V. BROWNS. AIAY 23. Mr. NORTH stated the case it ; aeepious srg it tf't def endant this morning, in an able and in 3P,eech: After the examination of wit iv' ao closed, Mr. Seijeant BURTON spoke to )' e on the p air o f the p l a i nt iff ; w h en t h e 1, 401 anti L esined Judge (Lord Noitauxi) .1 1 1 1 e 1 " tip i n bi g perspicuous style. rt?,,rle after about t en m i nutes ' consu lt a ti on , Fte n 'vl, (l ' fi nding a verdi ct f or the l i kintiff. with "us (, oa ts,sand Pounds Damages, and Sixpence SPOR'FING INTELLIGENCE. fin - IiETTING-R 4 gter owi d fofl wi ng were th e O 1 . 1, 11 4 1 aitst Athenian 14 14) 4g't Stnutensku c. 14 t u o 1 40t A rb Ut t.t. gSt, Ni eit h )OM, Mar 25. I s on the Grew Doncaster St. 16 to I agst Li9ette 25 to I agst Tu4,e, c. 30 to 1 apt Dul.e. , 11 01 , d poacher, was L.:4 week found a a J ' upince, near lerli,orougli. He liati se -41'44 fo r ot in , l , i ar , s, one of wai alive ; and "`""i Ware fuaud near Inul. ChPIIANs . FUNO. The following is the Letter from Sic Wm. CURTIS to the LORD MAYOR, the reading of which was opposed in the Common Connell on Wednes day last : Lombard-Street, May 23, 1920. MY LORD-4 have to express my thanks for your Lordship's polite note of the 13th inst. informing me of the intended motion, in the Court of Common Council, on the subject of the Orphans' Fund. It is impossible, my Lord, for any man to hold the ancient constitution of this great City in higher veneration than I du, nor to possess a more anxious wish to preserve it in all its dignity and importance. The Court of Common Council stands, in my estimation, in an exalted station in that con stitution; the greatest deference is, therefore, justly due to that enlightened and liberal Body ; and its all matters which come fairly within its cognizance, I feel myself bound, in common with every Member of the Corporation, to yield implicitly to the decisions of that Court. Entertaining these eentiments of sincere respect for the Court of Common Conn ell, I am anxious to afford the Members of it every information in my power; althaugh I cannot be called upon by them for the production of papers with which they have no concern.-- I therefore take the liberty of enclosing to your Lordship's a monthly statement of balances, from June, 1819, to February, 1820; with a copy of the Report of a Committee of the whole Court of Aldermen, and which Report has received the sanction of the Court itself (to which Court, as the legally authorised Guardians of the Orphans' Fund, and therefore the proper tiihunal, I have already appealed) ; and likewise a copy of the return made to Parliament of the receipts and balances front the sth of April, Itsl9, to the sth of April in this year, 1820; which three documents, together with this letter, I request your Lordship will have the goodness to lay before the Court of Common Council summoned for to morrow, the 24th inst. I feel particularly indebted to those Gentlemen who so kindly wished the, motion alluded tu, to stand over, that I might he present, when it was brought forward; and I re cognise in the adoption of that friendly suggestion, those principles of delicacy and good feeling, which have been the constant characteristics of that Court; but as the Common Council have n'. concern at all in the Orphans' Fund, either as to the appointment of the Receiver, the collection of the Dues. our the appropriation of them when collected, I do not see any necessity for my being present at it discussion, which being thus clearly beyond the power of that Court, can only hare originated in some individual Members of it, actuated either by " envy', hatred, or malice, or some other unchari tableness," who thus take an improper advantage of their public situations, to gratify their own' personal animosities. I have the honour to subscribe myself, My Lord, Your Lordship's most faithful and very humble Servant, To the Right Hon. the Lord Mayor. WM. CURTIS. &c. &C. &c. Inserted in yesterday's Paper. SOCIETY for BUILDING CUURCHES, &c. An adjourned General Meeting of the above Society was held yesterday, at their . Rooms itt Lincdn's.lon-Fields, which was n►tmerously at. tended. At twelve o'clock his Grace the Arch. bishop of CANTSHBURY took the Chair, supported by Lord Kenyon, the Btshop of Llandaff, Sir James Latiettani, the Hon. Philip Posey, Arch. 'deacw , Cambridge, Archdeacon Watson, and se veral eminent Clergymen and Gentlen►et►. The Report of the last ycat's proceedings was then read by the Rev. W. J. Rodher, the Secre tary.—Atter noticing the exertion and prpgress .. of the Society, it stated that 241 applications had been received; 120 were under consideration; not within consideration 10; and that 111 grants had been made tor the enlarging, building, repairing, and giving free seats. The grants amounted to 29,3471. and increased accommodation had been given for 36,357 persons, of which there were 26,336 tree sittings.—The Report next proceeded to lay before the Meeting the following important present stare of the funds : Stock in the Public Funds 3 per Cent. Consols 3 per Cent. Reduced _ • 48,955 15 2 - 63,548 14 3 3,503 18 2 Weidner of Treasurer's Account 1,103 16 Donations unpaid - 1,416 1 0 123,628 6 9 Grants unpaid 2:5,852 0 0 Amount of Disposeable Assets 25,763 14 4 51,615 I 4 4 The Report concluded by noticing the weal good the Socie:y hat) already done, and the in creased measures in contemplation. The Archbishop of CANTERBURY moved, that the 'Wort he referred to the Committee, to de cide OR the best means of.giving it pnblicity. Lord KeNYoteinoved the thanks of the Meet ing to the Chairman and President, his Grace the Archbishop of Canterbury, who had bestotted so much attention and support on the Society.— (Applause.) The Archbishop of CANTERBURY returned his •ery grateful thanks for the honour the Meeting bad dune hint, after which the Meeting adjourned. UNIVERSITY IN IELLIGENCE. • CAMBIUDGB, MAY 25.—The Hebrew Univer sity Scholarship tor the present year has, after a long investigation, been decidtd in favour of George Ato wood, B. A. of Pembroke Hall ;—and to John Jowett Stevens, B. A., Scholar of Jes us College, the stun of twenty pounds was voted to be presented as a premiom . tor the great know ledge of Hebrew displayed by him in the exami nation. The,CliancellOr's gold medal for the best Eng lish Poem, for the present year, is adjudged in Mr. George Erving Scott, of Trinity ilall.—Suh ject, Waterloo. The Rev. Richard Marks. of Waterbeich, in this comity, was On Monday lust instituted by the Lord Bishop of Lincoln, to the Vicarage of Urvat Missenden, Bucks; Patron, James Oldham Old ham, Esq. CORK-EXCITANGE, MAY 26.--Our Market continues abund antly supplied with all sorts of Grain, and the weather being so extremely favourable for the growing Crops, causes ex ceedingly heavy sale for every article, and at a redaction of 2s. per quarter on Wheat, Barley, ❑nd Oats. The trade was very heavy, the consumers not being disposed to keep large stock by them, so that the sales were but trifling to-day at the above decline. In Beans and Peas there is uo alteration. SMITLIFIELD MARKET, MAY 26.—There Was but a short supply this morning at Market of Beefi but in Lamb and l‘lotlon the ,Market was well supplied ; the prices of all ki n d ~ f Cattle are much the same as last market-day ; Mut ton, V, 31, Lamb, and Pork as per last warket•day.—fire Hay Marker. in consequence r2i the fine rainsdis looking down wards in, price. ! AI,LIAMENT. HOUSE OF LORDS, THURSDAY, MAY 25. The House proceeded iu Appeals.-The Oath were adnninistet•ed to the Earl of Darlington, Lords Northuiek and Cavvdor.—A petition %yds presented by Lord DY NEVOR from the County of Carmarthen, praying foi- an alteration in the Welch Judicature.--Ordered to lie upon the table. AGRICULTURE. A petition from Aericulturists of Suffolk wFit presented by Lord ERSKINE, which his Lordship stated to have for its 'object not an increased pro tection as to the importation of foreign corn, but an alteration in the mode of stating the AVerages, so that the agrictilturists might have the lull be nefit of the Corn NH, ►t+hich at present availed there little or nothing. The Earl of LAUDERDALE said; the petition came from the same shop as many othert that had been brought to Parliament—from that of Mr. Webb Hall, who had so injudiciously stated the case of the agriculturists, and who, he was sorry to observe, had received an appointment from the Board of Agriculture ; a circumstance whiCh he considered highly mischievout. lie was not par ticularly an advocate for economical ftetorm, but he should be happy .to second any Noble Lunt ih a proposition for getting rid of the expence of the Boa'rd of Agriculture. Lord ERhKINE contended that the petition which be had : presented ha►t nothing to do with, Mr. Webb Hall, and so convinced was lie of thee propriety of the object sought by the petitioners,: • that he should take an early opportunity of calling the attention of the House to the subject. The petition was ordered to he upon the table. Two petitions, Irons Occupiers of Land in Wilt shire, were presented by the Marquess of Jittis• DOWN, which his Lordship stated to be very re spectably signed, one set of petitioners occupying 55,000 acres, and the other set 29,000 acres ; he 1 could not, however, promise to support the object of the petitioners, as he feared it might be found, upon inquiry, that Parliament could provide no remedy for the evils of which they complained, and that they mint, in common with other classes, continue to participate in the general distress. The petitions were ordered to lie upon the table. A petition, from Agriculturists in Hertford shire, was presented by Lord DACRE, which his Lordship stated to have for its object the better rygniation of the Averages,- without which the Corn Bill would continue, as it was at present, inoperative. Ordered to.lie upon the table. Seven petitions, Irmo Occupiers of Lend in Warwickshire, were presented by the Earl of WAnwicK, and a similar one from Sussex by Lord Viscount HAMPDEN, which were all ordered to lie upon the table ; as was alp one front the Coun . y of Edinburgh, relative to the Wool Duty, pre sented by Lord Viscount 11181.vmr.s. COMMERCIAL TREATI ES. The Earl of L►vexrooL observed, that ntl the Commercial Treaties moved for by - the Nuble Matqiie” kLausdown), with reference to his mo tion, had already been laid before the House and printed he therefore thought it ~ ,00ktl be use- Itas having them printed again, and be-merely laic! Copies on the Table, with a List referring to theca. The Marquess of LANSDOWN acquiesced in the arrangement suggested by the Noble Earl. CIVIL LIST. The Earl of Ltvetteuot. moved the Order of the Day for second reading of the Civil List Bill. His Lordship briefly stated the object of the Bill, thinking it unnecessary to trouble the House , at any length. 'rite settlement of the Civil List, made so recently as 1816, after full deliberation, rendered quite unnecessary any new arrangement, his Majesty having asked for no additional sum, alt hOl It the change in his Majesty's situation undoubtedly caused some additional expence. It had been objected that there was a considerable difference in.the prices of VarIMIS articles between 1816 and the present period, which tended to render too large the sum then voted, but indepen dently- of it being, in his mind, quite inconsistent with the honour and dignity of the Crown sem pnlously to-enter into an examination of the prices of common articles of subsistence, the fact teas, that the prices of various of these articles were actually higher now than they were in 1816. With regard to the amount also of the Civil List, the fact was that a more liberal provision was made for George 11. titan for his present Majesty. His Lordship repeated his form . er argament against disconnecting the Civil Government altogether as to expence trom the'person of the'Savereign, and contended that the best plair . was that adopted in the present Bill, which, with regard to the third class, that of our Ministers at Foreign Courts, their pensions, allowances, &c. rendered only the extraordinary disbursements subject to the vote of Parliament, whilst with regard to the general ex penditure of the Civil List, there was this security, first established in 1816, that whenever ti.e penditute fOr any one year exceeded the revenue by 15,0001. or upwards, the whole accounts of the expenditure of the Civil List should be laid before Parliament. With regard to the casual revenue of the Crown, such as- the Droits of Admiralty, &c. there was this new provision the present Bill—that an account of the sums received for these revenues should be annually laid before Par liament ; and he was satisfied that the Droits of Admiralty (the main 'branch of - these revenues in time of war) would be much better administered as they had hitherto been, titan by placing th'em wider the control,' of Parliament, on account of the nomerous difficulties that most unavoidably present themselves. His Lordship concluded by moving the second reading of the Bill. . Lord KING maintained that there was a studied atubignity'and perplexity in the accounts of the . Civil List, by charging sums in different hinds, which rendered it next to impossible to come to any right conclusion upon the subject. It would, he contended, be a much more econo mical plan to vole a sum generally to the Crown, without any classificaiion of heads of expense, as in that case, what was wanted as • extras in one department, night he saved in another, but at piesent there woo no noiiye (or tconomy,;parti• cuiarly as the extra exPenee of the class of Po. reign Ministers was to he provided for by Pat ha ment, the only consequences of which woold be that a greater number of persons Would he ern• ployed and afterwards pensioned in that depart ment than ,were necessary. The great fault of the general Government of the country Was pro fusion, there being no directing hand tO to the limit of eartice, and each head of department requiring what he thought requisite to make his department perfect, instead of one sum being voted for the Whole, and each department having only a proportionate share. He denied that at more liberal giant had been made to George 11. than flit present Majesty, the fact being that the Royal Family had, in pensions and allowances,. upwards of 900,0001. per annum, besides the sums formerly chargeable upon but since withdrawn from the Civil List, and now charged upon the Consolidated Fund. Upon these grounds, there tore, he objected to the Bill. The Earl Of DAHNLE4r e*pressed his surprise at seeing that so 'elite a Civil List should be pro-. posed for Ireland, considering the means of that cbutitry as compared with those ot England, with:- out producing a single item or account to prove its necessity. 'flue Civil List of England was 850,0001., that of Ireland 207,0001. He thought they were bounit, on the start of balaud, to re quire some explanation on this head. Another circumstance, to which he felt it his duty to al lude, was the increase of allowance to the Lord Lieutenant, though the business of that Office was tontidel'ably diminished since the Union. It • was now increased from 20,0001. to 30,0001. gs, year, a sum which, as the matter stood, ile Could not help considering enormous ; and their Loud ships, he thought, would not do their duty by that country without requiring Some details. He hoped that the Noble Lords on the other side of the ['rinse would give • some eiplanation upon those points. The Earl of LiVettrooL, in etplauation, stated, that the sum now fixed on for Ireland was exact ly the same as it stood at the denrise ot his late Majesty. That it was not more than the necesal sities ot Ireland required, they had this proof, that no sutra bad ever been remitted to this &ion try—(a laugh).-=They had also another fact in. corroboration, which was tbii the time that the Civil List ot Ireland was in debt, an Act was passed, which rendered it compulsory upon the Government hot to grant any pension above I'2ool. a year, except when the pension fund was below eighty thousand pounds a year ; the pension fond bad long been below that sum, and yet no ad vance had been made in the amount of pensious, though tinder the Act of Parliament and in the state of the frind the Government had authority to du so. As to the increase of salary to the Lord. Lieutenant Of Ireland, be would appeal to those Noble Lords who had ever filled the office, Mica ther it was not necessary, in order to meet the expences of that situation ? For a series of years no advance had been made in the allowance, not withstanding the great increase in the price of provisions ; and he would ask whether it was not fair that some alteration should take plate? Wl - ,cla a Noble Friend of his had filled the situation, ili-, salary was not found sufficient ; and he would ap peal to a Noble Duke, with whom he was not ita the habit Of agreeing upon political questions, as to the, same tact. Those who knew what the expenditure of the situation . was, would nor, be was persuaded, object to the advance of the salary. _ The Bill was then read a second time, and or. &red to be committed to-morrow. The Matquess of LANSDoWN, on moving that certain Papets should be printed, for the produc tion of which the House hatl made on order on a former night, observed, that though they did not contain what be kvanted, which was an account of the trade between America and Canton, they threw some light on the subject of which Parlia ment might avail itself . . It was found upoi, qiiiry, that the East India Company had not the means of supplying that lull intorination to Par liament which was desirable, but the intelligence such as it was deserved to be considered. The Papers were ordered to be printed, Ether which the House adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. In consequence] of a Ballot for an Election Committee, the Gallery was not opened till half past tour. o'clock. • - Mt. W. WILLIAMS brought up the Report of the Commit tee to whom was referred a Petition, praying that the House would alter and amend several Acts relative to the building of a Bridge over the 'l' huues from the County of Middlesex to the opposite shore, DUBLIN GAS LIGHT BILL. Mr. SHAW brought in a Bill to light the City of Dublin with Gas, which was read a first and second time. DROGHEDA ELECTION, Mr. P. MOORE presented a Petition from Mr. Edward Al derson (the Agent of Mr. Thomas Wallis) and others, stating, that a Petition had been presented we the Bth of May, against the return made on behalf of the Sitting Member fur Drogheda, which was ordered to be taken into consideration on the 6th of June ; that on the 12th of May, the Petitioner received the necessary recognizances, and gave the usual notice to the Agent of the Sitting Member, of the names of the sureties, in , nt that, on Saturday last, several affidavits were put in, ob jecting to the sureties. The Petition prayed either for time to get copies of those affidavits, -so as to be able to meet the objections put forth in them, or that he might be al lowed to present new sureties which he had ready fur the purpose. After the Petition had been brought up and read, Mr. MOORE moved that the Petitioners have time to this day fortnight to complete their recognizance. Sir J. sTE WART said, that the sureties tendered were in every way objectionable. One of them had but lately !teen re leased from gaol, where he haebeen for twelve mouths un der sentence for a riot; • the other was a person without pro perty or a home. The prayer of the Petition, he said, wa:s quite irrenilar, and against all precedent. Sir J. NIWPORT said, tfie House must have felt the point as nine of great importance. • The diffencnce respecting these proceedings was very striking, with respect to this country and to Ireland. Here it was easy to ascertain the precise state of the sureties, for they were on the spot. It was manifest front tine difficulties unarm',-Ably thrown in the way of the Irish Petitioners, that too lii‘ge a power was in the hands of the Returning Officers; an this was a reason why every fa leility should be given to the Irish Petitioner, otherwise all the inconerniencies would follow that could follow from the abuse ortbat. power. He could speak with more coufidence of these evils, because he had experienced the difficulties, and had to meet the obstacles which had been opposed to him- self. He thought the proposition made by the Petition was very rcasouable. Mr. W. WYNN said, he ,would oppose Ifiat part of the prayer of the Petition which- asktd .for les« : to substitute other sureties for those originally given; if :could be ester• ilii.lllllZ it precedent for others which ought not to be follow ed ; but he thought that a reasonable time ought to be al !owed to the Petitioners to meet the objections tuadq,to the sureties teadered iu tt,u Cirst ,41ta:ica, Tkit: was a vrecv7