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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. HOUSE OF 1.011P,•'., TuußwAy, MAncti 16 CORN PETITIONS. A ;Treat number of Petitions were preented on the subject of thy Corn Regulations—for the Bill , fa ow some place in hy the Earl 41 liardwielie—azfainst the Bill, from ti,, r7 d c h, Fart Grey,' signed by 12,000 persons—front trip!ilezate Without, by the Duke of Sussex, signed by 4000 persons--froin :litigate, to the same effect, he he-Dulie of !••;is..,,x—from a place in tiomersetsliirr, to the same Oft:et, be Ilse Earl of Deriiy—from several places to the came effect, by (;rencille, the Mike of Gloucester, and Lord Shafts imry. All laid ou the table. : t .'ANrFACTORYraNDOW TAX. • Lord GIIEN (.LE stated that he had ifi hi. hand a Peti ti,,n azailist the proposed Tax on Manufactory and Warehouse \`'nlow.i. He was apprehensive, however, that he could ia , t, according to their Lordships' rules, present a Petition :-zaiiist a specific measure which was not before the 'louse ; he must, therefore, defer presenting it till the measttre - catoe before their Lordships, it, unfortunately, it should ever come. It was a nio4 impolitic and cruel Tax. The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, that the Petition could nut now be pre , ented ; hut. besides, it night be a que,tion after whether any Petition could he received' against a Tax Rill in progress. It could not in the other House. Marine Mutiny Bill, and the Irish Brown Linen Bill; were read a third time, and passed. AMERICAN TREATY. The Elrl of LIVERPOOL laid the American Treaty on the table, and stated that he should thovi that it he taken into consideration on Wed lt,Aday. . E3ll GR F. 7 requested to know whether it was intention of the Noble Earl to lay any papers tot the table relative to the Neg-ociation (..oncholed with the Treaty of Ghent ? It was ne cessary that tli g e House should have information on that subject before they could pronounce on the con d uct of Ministers, or deft!' 'nine whether t%c•Trcaty was such as under the circumstances tmglit to ha t e been concluded.. - • The Earl - of LivEapoor. said he had no inten tioo to presetir any such papers ; nor was it at all usual to do.so when a negtciation ended in peace. It it hAti been broken off, then it :night have been proper to present the papers : but as it was, the H won'd he called upon merely for a general App rohn t ion Of the Treaty. , Earl Gai.-.17 insisted that the production of the papers_ to which he alluded were absolutely ne ees.,lu, to enable their Lordships to decide cor rectly on the merits of the Treaty itself. If ex travagant pretensions were first set up—if terms were offered by the Americans, which were at. first haughtily rejected, and afterwards . accepted consequence of loss and defeat . , it might .he • necessary to inquire, whether the character and honour of the country had not been conipromised? INTERESTS OF AGRICULTURE. The Order of the Day upon which their Lord ships were summoned, being read ; Karl STANHOPE rose to bring forward his promised motion on this subject, wille] he pre , faced with a variety of observations. The line of the Noble Earl's argumentation and detailed reference, were nearly similar to those • wlAch_ he used on tuovipg his resoktions last Session pro forth, which he now proposed for the adoption of the HOuse. lie approved of the principle advanced last niizlit by a Noble Earl high in odiee,--that it.was essentially necessary to encourage the agriculture or the country ; in this lie Cordially agreed with hint, and it was one of the principal objects of what Ise was about to pro rose to encourage agriculture, by relieving the farmers in the only way they should be relieved, and to enable them to sell bread at a cheap and reasonable rate to the consumer, by relieving him from those arts of taxation that bore the h ea viest on his agi i J n s !tural pursuits. This principle was recognised by many of the Petitions with which their Lordships' table was loaded ; hut more espe cially by t-hat of Corn Growers of Peterborough and its vicinity, in which his proposed Reso lutions were adverted to in a way worthy the most serious attention of the House. In illustration of his positions, the Noble Earl referred to cer • tain pa'rts of the evidence given before their Lord ships' Committee ; but more particularly to that given by Mr. James Buxtou, who, other very mater al points, stated that in 1792, the whole expencqs of his farm, for labour was 2741. odd ; that, in 1812, those expellees came.. to 8161.; and that upon the same quantity of land, and for the same degree or scale of improvement. That the poor's rates of the same farm were in 1792, 171. 19s. ; that in 1812 they amounted to 1661. That his other farming expellees were increased in proportiou. How was it possible then a Man so circumstanced could go on in his business, but by increasing the price of his commodity What was the cause of all this, but the crowding tax upon tax upon the farmer, and conseqiumtly upon the labouring poor of - the communitY.— After some farther observations on this Fin ciple and spirit, the Noble Earl proposed his Re- solutions, which appeared to be very similar to • those he moved in the first instance, and which I we hare repeatedly stated • " Resolved, That to pro snle for the public an ample sup p!v of provisions, is at all times a national object of the very first imPortance. " But this ample supply of provisions cannot at all times he provided, unless due encouragement he • given to the • grower , Corn in Great Britain and Ireland, so as to enable them to carry on the bnproven system of agriculture, and to enable titian to sell the produce of the same on moderate terms to the consumers. • "That io order to procure these essential, united object', it is expedient that those taxes which hear most.heavilv on j agriculture on the one hand, or on the labouring part of the j community on the other, be repealed, as i tar as the return of peace may enable the same to he done, tonsistentiv with the tecpiaz glue faith to the public creditor, and pi oviding for a sufficient peace eslahlishment," Ile subnotted these ResOlutions, afterwh a t had passed, with great confidence. He thought the principle laid down should be supported, 1101 Only by all arose who were inimical to, but by'al! those t s}io voted for the Corn Bill; and were their Lordships to record the principle, he thought it must have its due weight in deterring the Com r,,,,ns from sending up tax bills of the nature con templated. Oa the question ; Th e E r r; of L:YEtzroot:felt it his ditty to object to the a‘loptiou of the Resolutions 'referring to expe.lients which Noble f i ords most know could 'not he carried into execution. The impropriety Bruit be piain to all, of drittiling persons by liold • iug out hopes of repeal which it was irnpractica ble to realise. Their -Lordships all knew w4tat the situation of the country was with respect to its revenue and system of taxation, now that the interes'.. 01 the National fieht, including the Sink- inn F,1;1:!, , x; , s !:He l es s 1.1 , 11 711 And that in the present 3tate->ot attatu , and the world, a certain scale of cAtahlkinoeut in respect to the Navy, Ow Army, - 'and iu other things, was ne cessary Co be ktpt cif, erley may be certain, however, that , ho,e r.taldi.laments would not he kept op on a scale higher than the necessity of the S'itAr t'XMCItd. Putt it he wise or pro per, or did it stand to reason, that hopes Should' he now held out, when they knew what mbNt be reserved for the public creditor, which, in point of fact, could not he realised ? With respect• to the weight of taxation so part ieularly adverted to by the Noble Bari, hr hel;eved the inconvenien-: ces, whatever they may be, resulted Iliore from the extort of the taxes Ono) from the mode . of their distribution. With every disposition to re lieve all classes of his Majesty's subjects in that way as far as the same could consistently he done, he must say he had ilek er vet seen any plan for the reductions alhided to which could he carried into effect. When such at p:an could be 'nod:lced, then Av.ould be the time fur considering such pro positions. At present the adoption , of .the pro posed resolutions could - be attended witli, fr no good whatever, but may b e of mischievons tendency. He should therefore beg leaie to move the pre vious question. Earl GREY expres s ed his strict concurrence in part of what had fallen from the Noble Earl who spoke last, . - and deprecated the holding out false hopes as to reduction of taxes, where circum stances would not adusit of it. He trusted that . the ' Peace Establishments would be as far as possible fornted on principles of strict econotny--- , Whik he glanced at that point, be would take the opportu nity of expressing his hope that those expecta tions of retrenchment and economy, which w en.: naturally entertained front the return ix peace, would not be disappointed in consequence of any injudicious interference with respect . toy the COO - of France, if that country were again des tined, unfortunately, to be the Scene of internal discord, or warfare. He thought it his duty to say thus much ; and farther, that when the Peace Establishments should come to he regularly -ar ranged, it was hoped that they would be confined within the lowt.st practicable limits; as there was no reason to exceed that Peace Establishment which had been fixed, after so much discussion, for the year ninety-two. Earl. STANHoPE spoke in explanation, and ex pressed his determination to take the sense 9f the House 6n iris proposition. A division accordingly took place, when there appeared— 'For the Re'soln:ions - For the previous ip....tstlon 3O Majorit ACter forwarding the Bills upon the table, their Lordships adjourned. • -29 HOUSE OF COMMONti. Mr. WHITBREAD moved for leave to bring•in a fresh Bill with regard to defective weights and measures. Leave being given, the Bill was brought in, and read a first time. Or dered to be read a second time on Monday. An account was presented of tile expenditure of the West India Dock Company, up to the Ist of Fehrnau, 1815. Mr. H.. ADDIV;TON presented a return of the numbe.r of males and females committed fur t).ial in England and dieing the last. year. Lord MILTON moved for the minutes of the proceedings of the East India Company, with respect to grants and pen sions,• to the 1 ith of July, 1814. Mr. WALLACE had no objectiorl to the motion, as it was now worded. As he conceived it principally to allude to the grata, to Lord Melville, he coidd not avoid observ.ng that.he thought the Directors ought - to have formed an opinion one way or the other, and to have given a recommendation to the Court of Proprietors. Mr. C. MILLS defended the conduct of the Court of Direc tom. We understood him to soy that he considered the N o _ bit Lord to have no claim whatever on the • East India Company. After a few words from Lord MILTON in explanation, the pa.ier was ordered. • TREATY WITH AMERICA. Lord CASTLEREAGH brought up a copy of the Treaty signed at Ghent, and afterwards ratified at Washington. He intended t 9 move that it should be taken into consideration on Wednes day next. Mr Hoaxes wished to know whether his'Lord ship' meant to lay before the House the Papers upon which this Treaty was founded ? Lord CASTLEREAGH replied, that he by no means considered it a matter of course, that the Executive should lay before the House all the Papers which passed preceding the Treaty. He concei►•ed that the Treaty itself might be sub mitted to the House for its approbation, and that it night be judged of on its own merits. This Treaty had restored this country to peace, and it would he for the Ilonse to judge whether there was any thing in it contrary to the honour or the interests of the country, It was not usual to lay before the House the details of a negociation which ended in a treaty, unless the House should see something so reprehensible in the conduct of Govern►►ent as to call for those details. Mr. Hoßtc&tt said, that if the papers were not produced, the Noble Lord would have no other case but those papers, which had already, irre gularly and improperly, as he thought, been made public by the American Government. Lord CASTLEREAGH did not conceive that our proceedings ought to be regulated by the conduct of another Government, especially when that conduct was designated by the Hon. Gentleman himself, as irregular and improper. Tlie papers were then ordered to lie on the table. Lord CASTLEREAGH also presented Copies of the Treaty with Denmark, the Convention 'with his Catholic Majesty, and the Treaty of Amity and Alliance with that Sovereign. Those papers were also laid upon the table. Lord CAsTLEREAGH WiSllCd to know .whether the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Horner) who had given a notice for Wednesday,' would allow the discus sion of the Treaty with America to have priority ? Mr. HORNER would he glad to accommodate the Noble Lord if it was in his power ; but as his motion respecting the defeat at New Orleans was fixed for Wednesday, and the House Would adjourn immediately after, he could not postpone it. The report of the Malta Trade Bill was brought • Mr. BARING snggcsted that the same benefits should be extended to Gibraltar. Mr. RostNs thought that there was a differ ence in the case, from the peculiar political circum stances attending Gibraltar, and the jealousy with which 'Spain always viewed it. Upon that ac enwit 11,! Xll not 11i , 11 - , At resent to in 1: due Gibraltar into Uiis B 11. • STATE OF THE CONTINENT. Lord CASTLEREAGH, alluding to the intended motion of Sir .1. Newport, relative, we believe, (o,the case of the Su:titian', Correa, expres s ed his hopes that the Right lion. Member would postpone it fo- a short tine. Sir JOHN NEWPoIi T AILS wered, that if it would bi- a matter of convenience to the Noble Lord, lie would have no objection to postpone it till Tues day. Mr. WHITEREAD said, he should be glad to know, relative to the motion which Ire intended to wak e on Monday, whether any thing had oc curred which would make .the postponement of it expedient. It appeared to hint, that the conduct of the Noble L►rd was most extraordinary, for it might be thought that the Noble Lord, instead of courting delay, would be more anxious than any man to make some connnttnieation of what had been done at the Congress. On \ the first receipt of intelligence ticspecting tl►e late occurrences in France, he (Alr. W.) had taken the opportunity of giving his opinio❑ against the propriety of our interfering in any manner in the 6ivil war now raging in France, and he would now repeat his solemn protest against any such interference. Lord CASTLEIZEAGH, in an unusally low tone, observed, that not being in possession of the na ture of tl►e Hon. Member's motion . ; he could not offer any opinion as to the propriety or impro priety of postponing a discussion upon it. For his own part, he ha,.: no wish that it should be postponed ; indeed,. he saw no reason for post por►ing it all. He had only requested Its being deferred to Wednesday, on account of his health; and he should be glad of an opportunity, to give an information which lie could afford consistently with his public duty. lie should therefore be happy to meet the Hon. Gentleman on this ground as soon as possible. He was not aware of any thing which this country had done to preclude him front bringiag down such papers as he had alluded to,- and accot►►panying them with any ex-- planations that ought to be communicated. This he thought would be more agreeable to the House than bringing down such papers as from the present state of things could not possibly be • complete, and laying them on the table without any expla nations at, all. As to the conduct *of this Go vernment, he was conscious that it would not de viate from that spirit . of good faith which had ever guided it in all its transactions with Foreign Pow ers, and he was not aware that any thing had oc curred to induce it to change that line of policy which had been so universally approved of and admired. With respect to the general advice of the Hon. :Member, he trusted the House would leave that question to the responsible discretion' of his Majesty's Ministers ; and as to the opinion or remonstrance of the Hon. Gentleman, he trusted the House would feel that it could not, and without meaning any disrepect to the Hon. Gent. be Would say it ought not to have any influence upon their conduct whatever. He trusted the Hon. Gentle man would not . object to the universal feeling_ ,vhich pervaded the House on the subject of . the present situation of France. The policy of this Government never ,had been to interfere in the internal concerns of that country ; at the same time they could not but , feel, in common with the other nations of Europe, deeply interested iu sup . norting.a Government which had contributed to give peace to the world, in opposition to that power which now aimed at its subversion. He presumed the Hon. Gentleman himself was not an exception to this general feeling. As to, what measures the Government of this country might think proper to take under circumstances which now threatened again to distort) the state of uni versal,peace,' he was sure the House would not Pardon him, if he was so far to forget his, duty as to hazard any opinion on them. Mr. %TIILTBREAD stated, that the object of his. motion would be to move for an humble Address • to the Prince Regent, praying that he would order to be communicated to the Home such informa tion respecting the proceedings at the Congress of Vienna, as could consistently be made without in jury to the public service. He had no hesitation . in stating to .be Noble Lord those points on which the House had animadverted in his absence. He hoped the Noble Lord would be able to refute those aspersions which had been thrown on the conduct of the Congress; and if he could spew ' that they were groundless, he (Mr. Whitbread) would acknowledge that he had been deceived. He denied that he had given any advice to Minis ters as to the line of conduct which o ug h t to b e p ursue d tinder the present circumstances ; but lie would again enter his protest against any inter ference whatever on the part of this country in the internal affairs of France, for the purpose of setting up either one or another Government. Lord CASTLELEAGH observed, that it would be for the House to judge whether there was any thing extraordinary in withholding documents re- lative to the proceedings of the Congress, during the existence of that assembly, Air. WHITBREAD rejoined, that amongst the ex traordinary circumstances of the present day, one of the most extraordinary was the appearance of the Noble here. lithe Congress had not finished its proceedings, why had the Nibble Lord conic back.? or if the business could now be continued without his presence, what occasion had there been for -him to -go at all ? The documents to which lie had alluded were considered as matters of charge, and it belonged to the Noble Lord to come forward And refute them. Mr. PoNsoNnv said, if lie understood the Noble Lord rightly, it was his intention to communicate certain parts of the proceedings of the Congress, and to withhold other parts. He would only say, for himself, that he would. not be bound to de clare hi 3 Opinion on the day of the motion, unless the Noble Lord should be pleased to communi cate the .whole .of the transaction to the House.— He would not stand pledged to give his approba tion to any particular statement. Lord CASTLEREAGH declared that lie Would give whatever explanations he might think to be pro per and consistent. He could only wish, that the general reserve which the Right Hon. Member had indicated his intention of maintaining, bad been more extensive on preceding occasions.—Hear ! NEW TAXES. The CLIANCELLOZ of the EXPLIEQUER, at the Air. U'oNs , - -(e of ,l r, e, psrpotitl tb.3 tiler consideration of the Ne.v Taxes to Mood I_ fortnight. ' gr. Mr. WHITBREAD presented a Petition d Daniel Lovell, Editor of the Statesman, " 1 " ) been . now imprisoned in Netvg,;e for more )I`a,, tour years. He had. been in prison since •Iv. last, from his inaiility to pay t he fine and He the securities mentioned in his sentence' a b et . had presented a Petition from him N r c ' e s : e en iv - eo d, ,. last, which appeared to be fkivourably His fine had' since been remitted b the Government, but still he was in prison foe want of ability to find the security requi red. , n - Mr. H. ADDINGTON stated that the Gove" — e had not only remitted the fine, but had reduced, the securities required front 500/.. to 250 1 . w ould• • Mr. WHITBREAD hoped that their lenity - discharge go a step farther, and that they would him upon his own recognisance. Alderman ATKINS IDid communicated to Lovell the intention of the Government. He bac ; not g e e however, tied all his friends, and could n ()L. any two persons to step forward in the securatJ, 0 2501. each. There were many Gentlemen 101. e would rather pay down the money, than their name as sureties under such circninstance y the lenity. rt Mr. BATHURST thought that the public was en titled to some security, and that it was extrnor-. /Unary that any Mall of sufficient character to e° 3 ; duct a newspaper should not be able to fin d sureties in the sum of 250/. each. After a few more observations, the petition sr* s brought up, and ordered to lie on the table. itt The CHANCELLOR of the ExcnEciuge in a r repealing certain :assessed taxe s „ t • i ti , male servants, and imposing new duties in e , thereof. Ordered to be re a d a second titu eol Monday fortnight.—Adjourned. broil KENT ASSIZES. MAIDSTONE, MAR cu 15. MACKIE V. LANDEN. 141 1 ' This was an action to re co v er the sum ° under the pilot-age acts, for not t a king a pit.' „ to j , board between Dungeness and Dover, pars" 3l l l l t .. c li the enactments of an act p a ss e d in 1812, by "Yr all skips coming up Channel, ' a s soon as they to rive off the line of the buoy of the Brake, 3( . 7 o f keep a signal flying for a pilot. The defe-063.y. was master of the ship John Western, from ti b f ,. daloupe to London, and by the evidence'' es 9 niel Peale, a pilot, it appeared that the wi tll . fi e and other pilots were out in th e ir boat In l i e 4l out for vessels coming up Channel ; tbeY the defendant's vessel, . who h ove to for a 5- l i a r () time, and inquired what they wou ld have t o Pes ; him to London. They answered the legal c hart; to but without giving them any ans wer or lYiligued so as to enable them to get any a nswer, b e o f his sails, and bore away %4 ithout hoisti u g o ar signal for a pilot. The next d a y the witoe ss NO , the vessel at Dover, and' then he had got 3 Knocker, a pilot on board. d t he Knocker proved, that h e we n t on "31' the John Western on the 23d day of Septetnfr r 'i 01 1 day she arrived at Dover.—The vessel arr ive` Dungeness the day before. dt ll3t Mr. MARRYAT for the defendant conten -le the only penalty t hey co u ld recove r Was tb i e e itiv flaky for going from Dtmgeness to Dare r b a d out a pilot. lint the plaintiff insisted th e At for, right to recover for double pilotage, 011 ‘ ... i . e faso every 50 tons burthen of the ship—as th e ; ', - .4eat to take the pilot at Dungeness was an ecl':'i j i ` was to refusing one for the whole r' voyage, wife - from thence to London. el,' it After some discussion between the Connsso, was agreed to take - a verdict for the les ser great er ' with leave to move to e n t e r it for the CROWN SIDE. i di Cted William Baker and Rich ar d B a ker were bo ase for a burlary in bre a ki ng i nto th e dwell i° g, - ,04P of Mr. Rich ar d W est , at S y d en b am , thi s C- birts' On the 3d of January last, and stealing 110 5 r arer and a vari e ty o f ot h er art i c l es o f w earing 3 , l l l ro i# together w i t h severa l art i c l es o f h o usehol d tore. rig ger , . c eviden ce t o p rove t h e o ff e nce was ancSt clic who was employed to pawn the clothes, several pawnbro'ters at Greenwich an` l s yhic ll wich, who received the clothes, part al were 'distinctly pr ove d to be pawned 11 tbe prisoners. sa tc ; A woman of the name of Sarah 1-1° , 1 r,151 e t . them near the p rosecutor ' s h o use on `"` e the robbery. • n ted to The prisoner, Willi gm Baker, attelity ot he prove an alibi.--ard a Mrs. King, his g ran" ; 111i1e4 swore that he slept a t leer house, about tw 1 -3° rit from the prosec u t or ; that on ° er %r e he came in at fiv e in th e eve ning, and D e rl ,. to b t out nine the n ex t morn ing. He vv el ! e %o 6t ; before nine, and did n ot l ea ve till afte r bl e pt th On cross=examination, she said she sPorliarf;. evening in praying to God. The ne o „ 0 -IY I and the evening before, he_was at bonle O i ‘ the evenina • ne .r The next witness called for the 1".. 150 t he e ve -t , she saw him abroad at half-past nine in the 1" e ing after the robbery, thus contradictirtg idevc ev The Learned Judge summed up th - 1/ a ll very minutely, whe n the Jury foun d the: —_—__-_ ' a d the 1 .-' . BIKTIIS. .eet, fin Friday last, at hi s h ous e in parliamen t-st. , i . lo r f '''' of Charles Bacon, Esq. of a 50T1. u Lad,' ° , ;(1 . On Wednesday last, in .Cadogan-place, ti' e 10" Baron Linsengen, o f a (laughter. __l a ce/ On the 9th in s t. M rs . Ogilvy, Abercronlb I Y burgh, of a son. tO t ---------------- , f ori% o o, i v1Ati.8.1.6 1 . ) . At Lambeth Church, Thomas BerrY, F' s gr," d o vt V Surrey, to Margaret, only daughter of the lat 6 '" - ,•tifo r , e f4e l ' l 'Vt o: !: Esq. of Demerara. ' On Thursday the 16th at St. George's-squaY, to, bot." ren, Esq. ,f Great Bro'rulevCOlcbte.t)r° . 0 daughter of the late Robert •BurrOw, Esq' ° ' r 1 `" Surrey. -, B „lia t j t e e P r • At Hastings, on the 15th instant, ,CoP!•,alnii t he ''' of the Royal Akillery, to Miss Rose,. only ol"'' - St o" *.sj rester Rose, Esl. ' , of v v: , On the 15th inst. Lieutenant-Genera. fciv:le,";llo** lege,. Suffolk, to Sarah, eldest daughter 0 ' - ler, Vicar,of Clare ' te , Se% On•MoOday last, at Wells, DIE• On the 11th inst. Mr. Thoinas D , la street. • in Somer setshiref relict of the late Sir Jacob Wolff, hart. tIN . DON : hinted 1w J. B. CARST,IIIIS, a i t in t l d h i e n r i i t ! z i 1 s • d6;111:;11t:cl i ) e ;rau melds, Order's, Letters (post-i'aid), 111115 I I ~~ ~` 1