The Sun. — London, England, 1849-10-04 00:00:00

SUNDAY LABOUR IN TIIE POST- OFFICE. A meeting of merchants, hankers, and traders of the Cit 7 was held yesterday in the Hall of Commerce, Threadn3edle-street, fur the purpose of taking into coosideratipn the I,roposed increase of Sunlay labour in the Post-duce. Sir James Duke, the Lord Mayor, took the chair at 12 o'clock, amidst loud cheers. The attendance was very numerous. On the plat form we observed Mr. Masterman, M.P., Sir E. N. Buxton, M.P., Alderman Sidney, .P., Mr. Robartes, M.P., Mr. D. W. Wire, the Rev. Dr. Croly, and a number of other well-known gentlemen in the City. The CHAIRMAN addressed the meeting as follows : —Having the honour to be the chief magistrate of the city of London, I consider it always my sacred duty to give my warm co-operation and assistance in any measure which may affect the citizens of London. —(Cheers) I have refused to take the chair on many occasions when I have been invited to preside at meeting;, because I thought the questions which were to be discussed involved considerations of a political nature, of which I considered it the duty of my office to steer clear.—(Cheers.) But, gentlemen, this question is purely and entirely one of a domestic character, affecting the citizens of London, and therefore I am not only happy to come forward to preside at such an important meeting as tile, but I give my assurance that I will co-operate with lon to the utmost in my power in giving effect to the resolutions which may be arrived at to-day. — (Loud cheers.) It is necessary I should state to you that when I first heard of the intention to open the Post-office on Sundays I wrote officially to Lord John Russell on the subject.—(Hear, hear.) I be lieve the Noble Lord was not in any way informed upo-n the subject.—.(Cheers.) I have since received a letter, dated on Monday last, from the Noble Lord while at Woburn Abbey, which I feel it my duty to read to this meeting.—(Hear, hear.) " Woburn Abbey, Oct: 1, 1849. "My Lord,—ln reply to your Lordship's letter of the 29th, respecting the rumoured intention to open the Post-office on Sundays,' I can state that there is no such intention. " The change actually proposed by the Post-office authorities has been announced in the newspapers, and your Lordship will be enabled by that announcement to judge of its probable bearing and effect.—l have the bouour to be, your Loidship's most obedient servant, " J. RUSSELL. "The Lord Mayor. —(Partial hissing, and evident marks of disapproba tion.) lam sure, gentlemen, that if you had known the Noble Lord as long as, I am happy to say, I have had the honour of knowing him, no one here, what ever parties in this city may differ from his public life or his political views, I think would deny that my Lord John Russell and his amiable lady are patterns of exemplary piety and strict observers of the Christian Sabbath. Therefore, lam satisfied in my own mind that Lord John Russell will never lend himself to any measure tending to desecrate the Sabbath.—(Loud cheers.) I felt it my duty, gen tlemen, this morning, before coming here, to go to the Post-office authorities, and to ascertain, as far asl could, what really was the measure which t he y had in Contemplation.—(Hear, hear.) I had the honour of seeing the Secretary and Mr. Rowland Hill, and I obtained official copies of the notice which has been issued, and which perhaps it is not necessary to read, unless some individual here has not seen it. Though this notice, from appearances, would rather seem to be intended for the purpose of relieving the country districts, there is a lurking suspicion in my mind that, ultimately, if this measure be carried, we shall have the Post-office in this city open on Sundays. — (Loud cheers.) Mr. Rowland Hill assured me that this measure was only meant to carry through Lon don those letters which arrive from abroad, or from a distance, in order not to delay them here twenty four hours, and that it would only give additional employment to twenty-five men —(Hisses)—while at the same time it would relieve upwards of two thousand men now employed in the country districts. Ile further assured me that these 25 additional men will only be required at ten o'clock on Sunday morn ing and in the evening after five o'clock, so that the new arrangement will not interfere with the perform ance of their religious duties.—(Hisses.) That, gentlemen, is the explanation which I have bad from the Post-office authorities, and now I will state what I consider this proposed alteration will lead to.— (Cheers.) The notice to which I have alluded states " that to facilitate the above arrangements, and at the same time to promote the public convenience, letters posted at provincial offices on the blank post day for towns beyond London, shall, if stamped and paying full letter -rates, be forwarded as on other days, so as to be delivered, except in remote places, on Monday morning." I will tell you what I think that will lead to. It is impossible, in this great commercial country, that any towns could obtain an advantage by having their letters forwarded through the London Post- office on a Sunday, without the commercial community of London receiving some injury.—(Cheers.) It is quite apparent to ins that this great community will suffer a severe injustice if these Sunday arrange ments are persevered in ; and though I believe it willing to remain under that injustice rather than apply to the Government or the Post-office authori ties for an extension of the arrangements to London, yet there are some in the City who look only after their own interests, and who would gladly go to the Government and say, "As you have given other towns the benefit of a delivery of letters on a Sunday, why not extend the same advantage to us? "—(near, hear.) Ido trust, as this measure does not appear to have been called for by any representation made in London or elsewhere, that it will not be car ried into effect. There has been no excuse for getting in what I fear will act as a " wedge"— (Cheers)—and as I remember a similar proposal was successfully opposed ten years ago, I hope the same spirit that then successfully defeated it will be brought to bear against the proposition now.— (Cheers.) Gentlemen, Ido not think it necessary to detain you by making any further observations. I regret not being able to remain here to the close of the -proceedings, because there is a Common Council meeting at one o'clock, which I cannot possibly put off attending, as there is some very important busi ness before it. Allow me to say, gentlemen, before I leave the hall, that I shall be happy to take charge of any memorial or petition to any party whatever, either to the Prime Minister or to the Postmaster , General, and to do anything else which you may ' think necsssary to give effect to the resolutions passed at this meeting.—(Loud cheers.) Mr. MASTERMAN, M.P., having been called upon to ma-7e the first resolution, said, he had been invited to take part in the proceedings of* this day, and he did so with the greatest pleasure and satis tection, considering that they met to solicit the interference of Government to prevent the carry ing out of regulations at the Post- office that may lead to great desecration of the Sabbath.—(Hear, hear.) Several respectable indi viduals had applied to him on this subject before to day, and he had felt it to be his duty to communicate with the Post-office authorities before he took any . steps the matter.—(bear, hear.) He had accord ingly received the following replies to his communi cations. The first was from the Postmaster General, and it was this : "Portumna, Ireland, Oct. 1, 1849 " Dear Sir,—There is not the slightest truth in any manner of our intention to establish a delivery of letters on Sunday in London. " Tb.e Consequence of the measure lately adopted will, I truP,t, be to very much diminish Sundry labour in the post-offices throughout the United Kingdom, and like w;.se to put a stop to much letter-writing on Sunday in 'private establishments.—Sincerely yours, CLINRICARDE.' The next reply was to this effect : " General Post-office, Sept. 28, 1849. " Sir,—ln reply to your communication of this day, addressed to Colonel Maherly, who is now absent from Loudon, I beg leave to acquaint you, that the measure to which you alluded will not cause any change whatever as regards bile arrival or dispatch of L le on e do rs n in letters London on Sundays; there will be no deliver y on that day, and the Post-office willf tt not be open l'or the receipt of letters. " I beg leave to add that the main object of the mea sure in question is to afford relief on the Sunday at the provincial offices. " I have the honour to be, Sir, " Your most obedient humble servant, " J. TILLEY, Assistant Secretary." It might not be the intention of the Government immediately to establish Sunday deliveries in the me tropolis, but the arrangement would lead to that re sult; and he most decidedly objected to any measure for the relief of the provincial offices that would throw more weight on the main es tablishment in London. — (Rear, hear.) If the Post-office authorities really desi redtorelie a v u e t t ie h s e , provincial offices from some of their Sunday he could suggest to them a better and an easier plan to accomplish that object thau the proposed arrange ment.—(Hear, hear.) It was to abolish the delivery of letters on Sundays all over England. As time was voluble, he was not sorry that it was unnecessary for him to say more than that he perfectly agreed with what had fallen from the Right Hon. Gentle man in the chair; and would at once conclude with moving the following resolution : " That this meeting has observed, with regret and alarm, the proposed tr. w regulations in the General Post-uffice, by which a large amount of Sunday labour will be requirel in that establishment; and it is unable to perc,ive any reason why the slight relief offered to tv.e country ofa:es should be bound u? with the com mencement of so great an evil in London."— (Cheers.) Mr. RonAntEs, who had the misfortune to be la bouring under indisposition, contented himself with simply seconding the resolution, and expressing his concurrence in all that had fallen from the two pre ceding speakers.—(Hear, hear.) The resolution was then put and carried unani mously. Mr. LABOUCHERE moved the second resolution us T H r,ll VG- " 1 1314 this meeting feels persuaded that any plan which brings the mails into London on the Sunday morning, and requires the attendance of the clerks and , letter-sorters to receive, asiort, and transmit them, must nide/lately had to a delivery of letters on that day in London also." The statement from the Chair had been so clear and conclusive, that it required little from him to induce the meeting to cordially acquiesce in the resolution. — (Hear, hear.) He thought, however, that it was most desirable that they should clearly ascertain what the Post office proposed to do. At the present moment he understood that thirty bags, containing mails from abroad, came into London early in the morn ing, and these were opened for the purpose of taking out letters addressed to the Government, a practice established at the time of the war. This duty required the services of five persons.—(Hear.) it was now proposed, however, that the whole 620 bags coming in on a Sunday should be opened ; and though it was said by the Post-office authorities that this duty would only require the services of t we nty-five persons, he was quite sure that it was apparent to every one in the meeting that that number would be perfectly insufficient to perform the duty.—(Cheers.) There was at present a second—an afternoon arrival. Twelve bags came in at two o'clock on Sunday af ternoons, containing foreign letters, and the same number of persons who performed the duty in the morning made the selection of Government dispatches in the evening. Now, was this proposed change called for?—(Cries of "No.") It certainly was not. It was attempted, but successfully defeated in 1838, and he was confident that the hankers who opposed it then would do so now.—(llear, hear.) It had been ascertained that during five years upwards of 300,000/. were extracted from letters passing through the Post-office, but if a system were adopte in the Post-office establishment that would have the effect of demoralising its servants, was it not more than probable that Post-office robberies would be greatly increased ?—(Loud cheers.) It was, then, for the pecuniary as well as the moral interest of the mer chants, bankers, and traders of the city of London, to oppose this proposed change in the - Post-office.— (Cheers.) Let them take all the large towns — Liverpool, Manchester, York, Bath, and Bristol— and they would find that they had all sent memorials, signed by clergymen, magistrates,bankers, and others, against the desecration of the Sabbath. The feeling of London was against such a change, and he rejoiced at it, because we should be the more likely to enjoy the blessing of God. The word of God said, " Those that honour me I will honour ; but those that despise me shall be lightly esteemed." He rejoiced that the public press had taken up the subject, and that the Times had satisfactorily shown that the advantages of the proposed change were as nothing when contrasted with the disadvantages that would ensue.—(Hear, hear.) It was said that the change would relieve the country offices from a great portion of their present burden. This was altogether a fallacy, for those who resided in the country knew well that at present the country post-offices were closed during a portion of the Sabbath, and if this change took place the same regulations would prevail, so that he could not see that increased facili ties would be afforded for the persons engaged in them attending public worship. Bat whether this would be so or not, they had a principle to establish. —(Loud cheers.) Do not let them countenance any thing which could by any possibility deprive the poor man of the greatest blessing he enjoyed—the rest of the Sabbath ; and let them bear in mind that just in proportion as they respected the law of God could they expect his blessing.—(Cheers.) Mr. R. HITC DINS wished to say, on the part of the Stock Exchange, and of those who transacted business in it, that they did not desire any change in the present system pursued by the Post-office.— (Cheer;) They were satisfied with the six days which God had given them for labour, and did not want to infringe upon that day which God had given to both man and beast for rest.—(llear, hear.) Resisting minor evils at the commencement, was the proper way to prevent greater ones, and hence he was there to oppose the commencement of a system which would ultimately extend itself. When God appointed the Sabbath for the rest of his chosen people, the Jews, he fenced round any infraction of his command ment with respect to it the most tremendous penal ties, telling them that though the Sabbath was made for the rest of man, it was at the same time appointed for his honour. He agreed with Mr. Labouchere, that if letters were conveyed to towns distant from London and delivered, that the tnerchants might find it necessary, in consequence of their pecuniary interests being in danger, to be at their offices on Sunday, and to require also the at tendance of their clerks. He trusted- no Christian i man would advocate the change.--(Cheirm) • The resolution was carried unanimously. Sir E. N. BUXTON, M.P., said, it gave him the most cordial satisfaction to be present at so magni ficent a meeting, which, considering the state of the weather, and the hour of the day, might be said to be unparalleled in the city of London for number and influence —(lleer, hear.) He entertained the most profound respect for Lord John Russell, and con sidered if they had had the honour of his company— (Laughter)—he could not entertain any mistake as to the views of his constituents upon this matter. — (Hear, hear.) He believed if be saw the opposition of the merchants and traders of the city of London to this attempt to increase the work in the Post-office en Sundays by reducing it in the week—(Laughter)—that he would not consent to any alteration.—(Hear, hear.) The proposed evil was a small one compared with the many evils that must unquestionably result from it. Many of the gentlemen entrusted with the management of the Post office merely observed the Sabbath out of re spect to public opinion, and would not hesitate to go further, and open the Post-office on the Sunday, if a step like the one proposed was not denounced. If the merchants and traders of London wished to have the Sabbath to themselves they must prevent the driving in of this wedge.—(Hear.) He agreed with one of the gentlemen who had spoken, that it would be well if Sunday labour could be entirely done away with throughout the whole country. — (Hear, hear.) The moral and social advantages of a proper observance of the Sabbath were con ceded cn all bands —by merchants as well as agriculturists ; but the proposed change should be viewed in another light. The Post-office clerks were obliged to be at their posts early in the morning, and had quite enough of work to do for the money they received—(Hear, hear)—without having to give another day's labour. He was sure he but expressed the general feeling of the meeting when he said that those in the service of the country should have the Sabbath to themselves.—(Loud cheers.) The Right Hon. Baronet concluded by proposing the succeeding resolution, embodying the memorial : " That on these grounds it appears expedient to ad dress to the Lords of the Treasury the following mo moria.l, and that the Right Hon. the Lord Mayor and John Masterman, Esq., be requested to present the same, "TO THE LORDS COMMISSIONERS OF lIER MAJESTY'S TREASURY. " The Memorial of the undersigned Merchants, Bankers, Traders, and others, of the City of London, humbly showeth— " That your memorialists have heard with the deepest regret that it is intended by the authorities at the General Post-office to commence, very shortly, the re ceipt of mails from the country at large, and the trans• mission of mails into the country, on the Sunday, as on other days of the week. " That your memorialists feel convinced that such a measure will inevitably lead to a Sunday delivery and transmission of letters in the metropolis. " That your memorialists, therefore, appeal most earnestly to your Lordships to prevent the adoption of a measure so repugnant to the feelings of the community at large ; and which has been desired by no class, while it is deprecated by all. " And your memorialists shall ever pray.'" Mr. J. D. POWLES next addressed the meeting. He said they were not there to denounce any act of wickedness on the part of any portion of the people, but to denounce an intention on the part of the Go vernment to subvert the ancient law, that the Sabbath should be kept holy.—(Hear, hear.) In I83!i he was one of the deputation that waited on the Government to opp ose th e i r intention to deliver letters on Sunday. In twenty four hours afterwards the intention was abandoned; and what had occurred in the eleven years which had since elapsed to justify recurrence to such a course? Now, when the electric telegraph extended over the whole of the country, and when, indeed, the means of inter-communication were much improved, he was at a loss to understand why Sunday work in the Post-office was indispensable ; for it was a farce to say that the labour of men within Post-officetheostoffiee Letwas not equivalent to the opening of the P . them bear in mind the extraordinary number of Post. office prosecutions, and let them tell him whether this new , system would not promote tbern.—(Hear, hear.) hear.)chey placed men at the criminal bar whom they had taught not to espect_ the Sabbath.--(llear, prop The language of r . the Post-office in respectthe to 0 sed ar d a ese h crati3n . . of the Sabbath was most irreligious the advantage and L i g c d ri f tical.—(Hear, hear)— . and f or was . altogether fallacious i m ns o tan e ce, a letter arrived and extraordinary. If, from Hamburgh directe'd toorhi Saturday ,- . b e e night, . or Sunday morning, it would not n ( tha delivered h.ar un Monday, and he did not wish it— but if he were a hundred miles away it iwo-(hear, delivered on the Sabbath.—(Hear, hear.) Thus he e was at a loss to understand how the country o ffi ces were to be relieved by this new system of any por tion of their labour. He then seconded the resolu tion, which was carried unanimously. Mr. J. WiLsorr proposed— " That the cordial thanks of. this meeting be given to the Right Hon. the Lord Mayor, M.P., for his kindness in presiding over this meeting on this occasion, and for his able conduct in the chair, and for pledging himself to assist in carrying into effect the resolutions which have been now passed; and likewise to John Masterman, Esq., MY., for his kindness in taking the chair and his I able conduct therein afterwards when necessarily vacated by his Lordship." The Rev. Dr. CROLY seconded the motion, saying that the observation of the Sabbath was the primi tive law of men ; and in an eloquent speech, which was much cheered, denounced the proposed change. Religion and virtue was, thank Heaven, much on the increase, and now that vice was declining, it would be a most ungrateful return for the • blessings of God, if after recovering from the late fearful:epidemic, we commenced a desecration of the Sabbath. Mr. HINToN said he was a Dissenting minister of the city of London, and he was there to say that his bretheren would go heart and hand with them in the object of this meeting. Mr. EVENESS, an accountant, also supported the resolution, and denounced the proposed change as an innovation upon Christianity. The resolution was then put and carried unani mously. The CHAIRMAN briefly acknowledged the compli ment, and the meeting broke up. FRANCE. The following is the proposition laid before the Assembly by M. Napoleon Bonaparte : " Considering that generosity, grandeur, and justice, are the best auxiliaries to found and fortify the Repub. he; considering that reasons of state can no longer be interposed; considering that Governments have never been saved by laws of proscription and violence; the undersigned proposes the following decree:-1. The laws of the 10th of April, 1832, and of the 26th of May, 1848, which exile the family of the Bourbons, are abrogated. 2. The decree of the Constituent Assembly of the 27th June, 1849, is revoked. The insurgents of June, transported without trial, shall be set at liberty. " NAPOLEON BONAPARTE." Speaking of the riots at the theatre near the Porte St. Martin, the Univers say s : " A piece called Rome was represented on Saturday night at the Porte St. Martin, and the journals of yes terday analyse the plot and performance. We have not the courage to do so. The authors pretend to repre sent the life of Pius IX., such as ridiculous accounts give it, and the Sovereign Pontiff is seen on the stage from his earliest youth to these latter times. Sach are the • examples given by Fraece. When the Ministers of the Grand Turk expose the empire in order not to fail in the duties of hospitality, the Ministers of the French Republic permit that a living sovereign, the Sovereign Pontiff, the head of the religion of the country, should become the sport of play-actors. This silly and savage indecency—this brutality without name and without example, immediately received a first punish ment. The representation was a riot, and aroused in the people the passions which raised the bar ricades of June. One scene represents the assasi nation of M. Rossi—the people applauded the murder, Another scene, the entrance of the French into Rome, was so hissed that it was necessary to let down the cure tain. These hisses were directed against the French uniform. We trust that there will be found in the As sembly a Catholic to interpellate M. Dufaure on the ignominious offence of which the Sovereign Pontiff is the object. Children of the Church, we want to know what is this party of order to which it is desired to bind L us, and the heads of which authorise against the Church such degrading indignities." GERMANY. The Duke of Saxe-Coburg has just abolished the lottery in his states. The Frankfort fair closed on the 29th ult., and it is said to have been one of the most satisfactory that has been held for years. The King of Prussia has appointed M. de Bo delschwing Member for Prussia of the Council of Administration of Germany. A letter from Vienna, addressed to the Emancipa tion of Brussels, states that disturbances continue in the sou•h, of Hungary, 'and that the Servians of Neusatz had driven away the Imperial Commissioner in consequence of his proclamation fulfilling the promises made to .them when they supported the Austriar4 against the Hungarians. STATE OF TRADE. `(From the Alandtester Guardiqn.) MANCHESTER ' --- TUESDAY.III the nominal prices of yarns, there has been but little change to elay as compared with this day week. The continued stag nation they have experienced has certainly, however, rendered spinners _increasingly desirous of selling, and has thus given an. actual advantage to buyers in the transactions that have, taken place. Both home consumers and exporters still manifest a great want of confidence : a very limited business has been done, andr the day has closed un satisfactorily in all respects. Almost the only excep tion to this statement is to be found in the finer counts of India qualities, for which there has been more in quiry ains:e the arrival of the' overtafiet Tt difficulty of selling.goods is sensibly increasing. The day's operations have been insignificant; and prices in general must be quoted rather lower. The east ern advices have produced no favourable effect on fabrics suitable for that quarter; nor, indeed, were they calculated to do so. The 'same may be said as to the intelligence from other markets, Our immense exports of the lighter cloths, since the commencement of the present year, have derange,' the relation betwixt yrices here and in distant markets. and the giving way we are ,now experiencing is, in fact, a corrective process, quite indispensable to the resumption of regular business. As regards the home demand, much disappointment is felt. A good harvest has not yet been followed by the effects, that were looked for, acd heavy goods can not be said to be firm in price. The makers of stout cloths and the spinners of export yarns, disheartened by the still deteriorating condition of their long unfavourable trade, are more than ever disposed to reduce their production, a measure never adopted except when things become hopelessly bad. In addition to the millowners who have lately resorted to short time in this town and neighbourhood, we hear of several others who are doing so, particularly at Rochdale. From Constantinople commercial letters to the 15th ult. have been received to-day. As they make no mention of the hitch betwixt the Turkish and Rus sian Governments, it may be presumed that the fact had not then transpired beyond the political circles. It has been feared that this rupture would con siderably injure the trade of Manchester with Constantinople : it can, however, have little effect in this respect, as the demand can hardly be less than it has been for some time back, and the Greeks regard the affair without alarm, as one which can lead to no serious consequences. Independently of this matter, however, the advices are calculated to confirm merchants in their recent course of abstinence from purchases; for, instead of there being at Constantinople a fair autumn demand, as had been expected, there continued to prevail a general and extreme dulness and depression. At the same time advices of the 25th August, from Tabriz, continue to give the most discouraging accounts of trade in Persia. In these markets there is an overstock of British manufactures. ROCHDALE, MONDAY.—We have had to-day a very thin attendance of buyers in the market, and the business transacted has been more limited, with little or no change in prices. Heavy goods are yet difficult of sale, and but little inquired after. The wool market has been quiet, and prices much the same as they were the previous Monday. MACCLESFIELD, TUESDAY.—We have little to add to our last report, further than that the manufac turers have been making more progress in the sale of their goods the last few days; and, as the cholera decreases, we may expect a continuance of demand, especially as there is an upward tendency in the price of raw silks. There is an increased inquiry for thrown silks for export, which keeps the throwstera fairly employed for the present. HUDDERSFIELD, TUESDAY.—The market is very quiet. Among the fancy manufacturers there is much complaining. A steady business continues in the warehouses. Not much done in wool, but prices are firm. HALIFAX, SATURDAY—Our Piece Hall has not presented a very animated appearance to-day, but the trade is steady, though not brisk. The manufacturers complain that they are not able to obtain an increase of price equal to the advanced cost of the raw material. There is no variation in the de mand for yarns which go off well, and the quotations are very firm. A moderate quantity of wool is changing hands at slightly improved prices. LEEDS, TUESDAY. There has been but little business done at the Cloth Halls either to-day or on Saturday last, and there is less doing in the ware houses than for many weeks. Prices steady, and stocks light. TIIE MOTHER OF SIR FITZROY KELLY.—It is not generally known that Isabel Kelly, a celebrated novelist is her day fifty years ago, is alive at ninety years of age, residing at Brompton, and retains her faculties and reads the smallest print without spectacles. Connected with ',he highest families in Scotland, she boasts she was born in a castle (that of Caernbro'), nursed in a cottage (by one- of the family cotters), and bred at Court. • her father, Captain Fordyce, v. as the last car• ver and cup-bearerer to George 111. Sir Fitzroy Kelly is her o: iIV son. "CAN i t and last m i,3vin : ;.,ij Cleansin Reform Associat ion, as the Chairman was A c t Y ing ou of T ELL the l\ dwelling upon the inconvenience sustaiL ed by the inha bitants Lava? and visitors to the town, in consequence of the want of names to the streets, and numbers to the houses therein. a voice exclaimed, " Can you tell me where I live? Tor I don't know myself; it's somewh ere in a street witl ,ont a name, or numbers to the houses." Such is the Mat e of the town of Ipswich in the middle of the 19th cen tury, and in the 12th year after the passing of the loc a Act of Victoria, for lighting, paving, cleansing, am - . 1 otherwise improving the town, that a rate-payer is int limed to ask aloud, Can you tell me where I live?' -Correspondent of the _lpswich Express. REPRESENTATION OF CoRK.—A vacancy has oc c arred in the representation of the city of Cork by the I is th of Mr_ Daniel Callaehan. LONDON, TRURSDAY EVENIN'n, OCTOBER, 4 1840 LAW INTELLIGENCE. INSOLVENT DEBTORS' COURT, Oct. 3. (133 fore Mr. Commissioner Puthurs.) IN RE CHARLES GILL. This insolvent had been a grocer in Devereux court, Strand, and lad also heki a .sivation in the Temple. He had offered to pay his creditors 6s. iu the pound out of a sum of 1101., realised by the sale of a policy of insurance effected on his own life, but the offer was refused ; and it was suggested that a fiat in bankruptcy should be taken out. The insol vent's solicitors, Messrs. Lewis, however, considering that the expenses of a fiat would consume the whole assets, advised the insolvent to go to prison by means of a friendly arrest, and let the money be distributed by this Court. Upon this advice he acted, and there was now 130/. paid into the Court, with a prospect of about 401. more. Mr. NICHOLS, who opposed, objected that an insol vent was not entitled to choose his own time to take the benefit of the act. _ _ . Mr. COOKE having been heard in support, Mr. Commissioner PHILLIPS said, he thought the insolvent had acted very honestly, and on very good advice, the result of which would be that the credi tors would receive nearly 105. in the pound. He thought the insolvent was entitled to the benefit of the act, and ordered him to be discharged forthwith. POLICE INTELLIGENCE. GUILDHALL. , William Charles Hitehins, of Tavistock-row, Covent-garden, and Benjamin Henry Mayers, of 23, King-street, Covent-garden, were brought up for final examination, charged with obtaining a quantity of papier mache trays, value 261. 165., under false pre tences. Both prisoners were fully committed for trial on the charge of feloniously stealing the trays. There was a second case then entered into. Alderman GIBBS committed them on this charge, also, for stealing, and also for unlawfully obtaining the goods in question. The depositions being made out and read, the pri soners declined saying anything, and were conveyed to Newgate. MARLBORO UGH-STREET. James Moore, the proprietor of a Hampton-court omnibus, was summoned before Mr. Bingham for cruelty to two horses, his property. George Sutton, the defendant's driver, was sum moned before the Magistrate in the first instance, when the following evidence was produced : Frederick Stewart, the waterman at the Knights bridge stand, said, on Friday week his attention was attracted to a crowd near Hyde Park, and on going up he found that one of the horses in an omnibus, which the defendant Sutton was driving, had dropped down dead. He examined the animal, and found it in a pitiable condition. It was a small puny horse, utterly unfit for such labour as omnibus work. It was in a wretched condition, seemingly from starva tion and overwork. It had wounds on its shoulders, produced by the collar, which had been painted over with flour of brimstone, and the holes in the raw flesh plugged up with fuller's earth. One of its legs also had a wound on it. 'Witness inspected the other horse, which the driver was vainly attempting to make draw the omnibus ; but the animal, which was hardly a shade better in condition than its wretched companion, was quite unable to perform the task from weakness. This horse also had large wounds on the shoulders daubed with flour of brimstone and fuller's earth. The driver said the animals had been inspected by the horsekeeper of his master before they were put to the omnibus on the mornine• in question. Other witnesses having ° deposed to the shocking condition or the live and dead animal, and to their complete unfitness for the work which they were re quired to perform, Mr. BINGHAM said, it would be quite inconsistent to punish the driver in such case—it was clearly the master who ought to be made amenable to the law. As the new Act gave a power to - magistrates to reach the owners of horses where cruelty was proved, he should discharge the summons against the defendant, and make the owner the principal. Yesterday the owner, Jams Moore, appeared to the summons. The evidence of the:cruelty, in substance the same as had been given on a previous day against the driver, was then gone into. The defendant said, he had not been able to attend to his stable for several days previous to the occur rence, owing to a severe attack of cholera. He was not aware of the bad condition of the horses, other wise he should not have sent them out, and he hoped for a lenient penalty as he was in very poor circum stances. Mr. BINGHAM said his first intention was to have inflicted the full penalty of 51., but taking into con sideration that ode aeronasnt hwa lost one horse by death, was very poor, and had been attacked by cholera, he would mitigate the amount to 40s. in eluding costs. NAVAL IN TELLIGENCE. MALTA, SEPT. 26.—The Merlin, on arrival here of the news of the Sultan's refusal to give up the refugees, was immediately dispatched to the Admiral with letters, received from the Ambassador at Constantinople. The arrival of a French steamer from Marseilles and Italy, in quarantine, a case of cholera having occurred on board, has set the town in commotion. Her Majesty's steamer Locust, relieved by the Oberon, has arrived from Naples. She brought no news of any importance. Her Majesty's steamer Antelope, from the lonian Islands, arrived yesterday, reports that the two revolu tionists, for whom, dead or alive, the Lord High Com • missioner had offered 1,000 dollars, had not been taken, and the island of Cephalonia was still disturbed. The Sharpshooter (steamer) and the Racer (brig) were there, and the fleet cruizing in the vicinity. The Queen was in sight off Corfu on the 21st, and the lonia steamer was sent cut to tow her in. She did her best for six hours, then cast her off, and Mrs. Ward and family quitted her, proceeding to Corfu in the steamer. On the following morning, distant eight miles from the an chorage, the Antelope, bound to Malta with the mails, took her in tow. The Thetis was in sight on the 22d. The Prince Regent, from Naples, had joined the Admiral. She was at Argostoli on the 17th of Sept. The flag ship (Caledonia) had a great deal of sickness on board, and was cruising for the health of her crew. The Tartarus steamer has been again employed in seeking for pirates. She has not, however, met with any euccess, and having remained a day at Smyrna to coal, she has proceeded on her mission one more. By the Antelope ariived the veteran General Pepe, Colonel Marchese, the celebrated Manini and family, and several others whose late career has rendered them con spicuous. Our acting Governor, Colonel Jones, allowed them to land, and they are in town. He properly took a guarantee for their good conduct, and their promise to leave the island soon. DISTRIBUTION OF THE MEDITERRANEAN SQUADRON. In Malta Harbour—The Ceylon receiving- ship, bearing the flag of Rear-Admiral Edward Harvey; Spitfire steamer, and Locust (tender to Tritou), Lieutenant C. J. P. Glinn, in ordinary. On a Cruise—The Caledonia, 120, Captain T. W. Carter, bearing the flag of Vice-Admiral Sir IV. Parker, G.C.8., the Commander-in •Ckief; Howe, 120, Captain Sir J. Stirling; Queen, 110, Captain C. Wise; Power ful, 84, Captain Hon. R. S. Dundas; Vengeance, 84, Captain the Right Hon. the Earl of Hardwicke; Prince Regent, 92, Captain Martin; Thetis, 36, Captain 11. coaraagton Racer, Captain C. W. Beddoes; Frolic, Captain N. Vansittart; Odin, Captain the Hon. F. T. Pelham; Porcupine, Lieutenant E. F. Roberts; Bulldog. Commander Key; Rosamond, Commander Foote; Obe ron, Lieutenant Gardiner; and Sharpshooter steamer, Lieutenant Commander Bailey. On Surveying Duty—The Volago, 6, surveying ship, Captain Thomas Graves; Auxiliary cutter, Lieutenant G. W. Geary; and Research cutter, Lieutenant Lord John Browne, both tenders to the Volage. At Gibraltar—The Janus steamer, Lieutenant Powt ' ➢lr. Alullins said that this was the whole of the evidence he had to offer that day, but he would ask for a remand in order to produce other evidence against the prisoners. The case of Mr. George Mills, coachrnaker of Goswell-street, had been completed, and he suggested that the whole of the witnesses already examined should be bound over to prosecute at the Central Criminal Court. Mr. COMBE ordered the witnesses to be bound over, and he remanded the prisoners for the production of further and necessary evidence. They were then conveyed to prison. At Coustantinople—The Tartarus, Commander Sir G. Webster. At Venice—The Ardent, Lieutenant Nowell. En route from Malta to Alexandria, thence to cruise —The Growler, Commander Stu - Mart. En route to England, from Malta—The Terrible, Captain W. Eqmsay. En route from Malta to Tunis, Algiers, Tangier, and Gibraltar—The Volcano, Lieutenant Commander Willes. August, the prisoner Smith sent the waiter at the I bound to consider all the plans which had been sat Masters' Assistants—J. A. R. Fetch, to the Scourge; Clerence•botel to his house, who informed him that in, as far as they were capable of doing so, and then T homas Ta! p in, to the Gan g es. eak with him. Witness take the opinion of competent persons as to their Ntia:hipmen—tlorece Johnson, to the Leander ; Chas. Captain Smith wanted to sp proceeded to the hotel, where he saw Smith and .:,Ir. merits. - 1 7 .. 6 :evenri, to the Serpent ; Francis Stanley, to the Collins in the coffee-room. Captain Smith produced Si: JOHN BLInGOYNE said the subject was one of Eecounter. hanlain—Charles Th'l a areve to the Leander. the cheque for 71. 10s. on the Commercial Bank, great difficulty, and he thought it reasonable that t Nrotal Instructor—M. P. S'irnhell, to the Leander. Lothbury, and signed 4 , Charle s Frazer." Smith time should be given to consider the whole of the Naval Cs dc,t—Jan D. Hopkins, to the Leander. asked if witness would cash the cheque ? saying it plans. He thought there could be no doubt as to Clerks—O..l). Sibb .Id, to the Lean&r ;G. Bulgier, was crossed, and the proprietor of the hotel had left the propriety of consulting persons of competent to the Ganges; Richard Alien to the Scourge. town. Witness looked at the cheque and found it knowledge as to the :merits of the various plans, and Clerk's Assistant—T. W. Harriott, to the Scourge. was made payable to Mr. Collins, who came forward that he was sure would be done, Purser—Frederick Gilbert, to the Scourge. and spoke of his family, whom he (witness) was ac- The motion of Mr. Chadwick was then put and quainted with; and from the knowledge he had of carried. 14 them he cashed the cheque and paid down 71. 103. on Mr. CHADWICK then moved that each statement of ag the table. the details and principles of the plans should be circu- Mr. Mullins—Whom did you give the money to ? lated to the author of each plan. n Witness—l suppose to both. I noticed Smith take Mr. Alderman LAWRENCE objected, on the ground .)a up what I supposed to have been half the money, when that by adopting such a course they would furnish to 'al he said to Collies 1 6 Here, we'll halve it, as usual," the author of each plan the merits of all, which he s. e and he took the other half from the table, when witness considered a most objectionable course. Ic thought lie was " dune." When he gave the money Mr. Crianwicx said he believed the competitors f t he had not noticed that the cheque was postdated. themselves ware desirous that the course proposed ee Witness paid the cheque away to his brother, should he pursued. n 7 who paid it in to his banker's. It was returned The Rev. Mr. (2owte also objected to the motion. rs to witness. On the 3d of September witness re- Mr. CHADWICK said he would not press the motion irl ceived a message from the Clarence hotel that if there was a general feeling against it '; Smith wished to see him; he proceeded thither, Several members requested Mr. Chadwick to 'with- d when he was informed by Smith that Frazer had draw the motion,. been seized with cholera, and could not go to Gravesend After a short discussion, the motion was withdrawn. )c that day to send the money up in time. He alter- Mr. CHADWICK also moved that t h e statements be trr ite wards saw Smith and Collins, who told him that ordered to be sent in as eerly as practi c a ble. el, Frazer had died of cholera, and they referred him to After a short discussion the motion was agreed to. 5( their solicitor, Mr Lawes, at Mr. Hall's, 49, Moor- Mr. CHADWICK then moved, that when such state- i a gate-street. He saw Mr. Lawes, who assured him merits were sent in, a special court be summoned , that the cheque was a good one, that Mr. Fraze.r's within fourteen days after they were so sent, in ) a brother was a wealthy man residing at Gravesend, order to consider them. ,ti and that the drawer of the cheque had not sent to Mr. CHADWICK said that an imputation had been net his brother, and by some means had not got the cast upon him, that he had already come to a fore- an money. Lawes introduced witness to Mr. Hall, of gone conclusion. Now all the opinions he had formed ja i 49, Moorgate-street, as his friend, when he (Mr. on the subject h a d a ppear e d i n t he blue books and tr Hall) said the cheque was a good one, and the trans - official documents which had alrea d y been p ublished, 8s Su action was honourable, and that the money would be and beyond that he was perfectly open to consider IT, paid on the Saturday following. The prisoner Lawes the merits of every plan in an impartial spirit. There eyr acquiesced in all he said. was, therefore, no ground for the allegation. It was 314 Mr. Williams objected to this sort of evidence as his opinion that their efforts should first be directed ivy to what Hall said. to house drainage, next to street drainage, and lastly at After some discussion on the point between the to the purification of the river. The propositions he professional gentlemen and the Bench, had made on the subject of house drainage had I. Mr. COMBS said, it was admissible for the consi - already been una nimousl y a pp roved of b y the court.E , .• Barte l ,._ a r s i e e i n e e _ , .. . 1 p deration of the judge at the trial; it might include Mr. LAMBERT J ONES was of a ver y different p e Hall in a charge, but it would not exonerate Lawes. opinion. Vicar ... ... ... ... By Air. Hobler (to Mr. Cuthbertson)—lt was on The resolution was then put and carried, and the the faith of knowing Mr. Collins' family and seeing court adjourned. Collins present with Captain Smith, that he cashed the cheque. He would not have done so for Captain Smith himself, as he was sorry to say there were other transactions before the present in which he had been involved with him. THE COUNT4Y iviARKETS. NEWCASTLE, OCT. 2.—At this morning's market we have to note a dull sale for all articles. A fair arrival of grain coastwise. Also little in from abroad. For wheat the quotations of Saturday were barely Supported, but the little business done hardly warrants a reduction. Barley and oats at about previous terms. The value of other grain remains nominally as before. NEWCASTLE CATTLE MARKET, C CT. 2.—At this day's market we hsd a large supply of beasts, exceeding the number exposed for sale last week by 150 head. Quality good. Although a brisk demand, part remains unsold. Number of sheep and lambs also large. Both kinds of stock in good demand at former rates, and but few remain on hand. Beasts 700; sheep and lambs, 6,400 Prices—Beef, 5s Od to 6s 3d per stone; mutton, 4d to 51d; lamb, 4id to sid per lb. EDIRBURGIT MEAL, MARKET, OCT. 2.—There were in the market to-day 105 sacks oatmeal, each weighing 2801bs imperial, whereof 69 Soli thus:-13 at 11 9s, 8 at 11 8s 6d, 24 at 118 s, 26 at 1/ 7s Od, and 18 at 116 s Od; average price of the whole 1/ 7s 5d 11-12ths. 4 sacks flour, whereof 2 sold at 31s, 1 at 30s, and lat 295. 4 sacks barleymeal, none sold. 27 sacks pot-barley, whereof 22 sold thus:-1 (Pearl) at 1/ 1330 d, 3at 116 s, 1 at 115 s 03, 5 at 1/ 4s, 3 at 1/ 3s 6d, 4at 1/ is 64, and satll 03 Od. 1 sack brosemeal, which sold at 26i. EDINBURGH HAY AND STRAW MARKET, OCT. 2. — Supplies of all kinds small. Oat straw, from 7s 6d to• lOs Od per kemple of 16 stones tron; wheat ditto, 7s 6d to 9s 03; barley ditto, 6s 6d to 8s Od. Old hay, from 7d CO 9d; new ditto, 01 to Od per stone. DALKEITII MEAL MARKET, OCT. I... There Were 97 sacks of oatmeal, 6 of barleymeal, and 1 of pot-barley at this day's market. The supply of oatmeal middling, barley - meal small; sales heavy. Top price of oatmeal 275, or is 6d lower than last week; flour and peasemeal .none in market. Oatmeal, per sack, of 280 lbs. First Second Third imperial .. 27s Od 26s 3d 25s Od Barleymeal, per ditto ... 19s 6d —s 01 —s Od' Peasemeal ... —s Od —s Od —s Od Flour ... . —s Od —s Od —s Od 'a barley 22s 6d —a Od Od COAL AIAB.KE [lasting's Hartley l7s Od Holywell Main ..... 16s Od rantield Moor Butes l3s 6d Wall's End, &c. Thornley Clarke Gibson Hedley Hilda Hebburn H saw'. Percy... Riddell's l7s 96 Ships at n T.— YESTERDAY. Lambton Primrose lBs 3d Braddyll -Hetton utton 'tewart's Hartlepool l9s Od West Hetton lBs Od St. Helen's Tees Tees ...... .......... l West Cornforth Graigola Birchgrove 2os 6d Nixon's Merthyr and i Cardiff .... 2ls 6d narket, 43. RAILWAY liAktk. MARKETS. BRISTOL, OCT. 3. STOCK EXCHANCIE.-1 he transactions to-day were as fol low : Great Western Quarter 11 1 A dis.—Ditto, Old, 58. LIVERPOOL, Oar. 3. _ _ _ STOCK EXCHANGE.— The share market was further de pressed to day . The sales are—Birkenhead, Lancashiie, and Cheshire (late C. and B.), 6 per cent. till IMO, W. lls. 3d. —Caledonian, Preference, 9% Great Northern, 5 per cent., Preference, 2, dis.—Ditto (L. and York Extension), 2 1 4 —Lancashire and Yorkshire, Consol., Fifths, 61. lls. 3d.— Lancaster and Preston, 2 dis.—London and North-Western, 111— Ditto, New Quarters, % p.—Manchester Sheffield, and Lincolnshire, Quarters (No. 1), guaranteed 7% till 1853, 12% c. dis.—Midland, 50—Ditto, Halves, 19 1 4 dis.—York, Newcastle, and Berwick (Original N. and B.), G. N. E. Purchase, 6 per cent. till 1850, 41. 18s. 9d.—Dutch Rhenish, 6% die. MANCHESTER, OCT. 3. STOCK EXCHANGE. The transactions to-day were as follow :—Manchester and Leeds, Fifths, 64. dis.—Sheffield and Lincoln, 19% dis. North Staffordshire, 7% dis.— West Riding Union, 6% dis. —Sheffield, Preference, 10 1 A — Dover (No. 4), %c. - YORK, OCT. 2. STOCK EXCHANGE.—The transactions to- day were as follow :—Great Northern, 71. 6s. '3d.—North British, Pre ference, 31. 11 s. North-Western, Preference, 3 1 ,4—York, Newcastle, and Berwick (Newcastle Extension), IN ex in. —Ditto (G. N. E. Purchase), GLASGOW, Ocr. 2. _ _ STOCK EXCHANGE.—The transactions to-day were as fol low.—Aberdeen, Preference, 6% Caledonian and Dumbar tonshire, 9 1 4 —Glasgow, Kilmarnock, and Ayr, 5 per cent. guaranteed, 102—Stirling and Dunfermline, 725. 6d. FOREIGN FUNDS. HAMBURGII FUNDS, SEPT. 29. Bins, Money. Hanoverian New Loan, 5 per Cent 106 Ditto, 33% per Cent. .. • • .... •••• •• 8435 84 34 Bank shares• •••••••••••• • • • •• •• •• • • Prussian 5 per Cent 106% Russian Certificate •• •• •• •• •• 98% • • Anglii-Russian Loan • . . • •• • 105% 10514 llamburgh Certificate, 5 per Cent Russian. 4 per Cent—. ••••..••• • • • • • • • New 4 per Cent., Hope and Co. •• Ditto Stieglitz • . ......... 81% 84 Belgian Loan, 2% per Cent...... .....• Anglo-Danish Loan, 3 per Cent ...... 72 Ditto, in 1001. Shares .............. 723! 72 Ditto, 5 per cent. •• • • .... 97 97 Anglo•Swc.dish Loan . Ditto, Transport Loan ** •• •• •• •• •-•-• Norwegian l oan, 1848 ......... 993 99 Spanish New 5 per Cent.............. 103{, Ditto, 3 per Cents. •• 25% 21% East India Loan, 4 per Cent.• •••• •• • • '— Ditto, 1816.......... •• • Anglo-Portuguese Loan, 2% per Cent • • Dutch Actual Debt, 2% per Cent. • •• •• Ditto 3 per Cent. •• •• .• •••• •• National Bank Shares •.•••••••• •• •• American, 6 per Cent .............. 105% 105 RAI LWAYS. Hamb. Bergd. .... ................ 9434 93% Ditto, Priority Shares •• • •• ••• • • • 104 103% Berlin and Hamburg .• ••.•••..• • .• • • 71% 75 .C, Ditto, Priority Share 3 .. ••••• • • •• 98 97x, Cologne and Minden .• • • ...• •••• • •• Ditto, Priority Shares .. Mecklenburg .. ••.• • • .A itona and Kiel • ................... 97 cluckstadt ........., „• • Rendsburg .. • •••••• • • • • •• -- Hanseatic Steam Company • . • • •• •• •• DUTCH I , UNDS.—AISISTERDAM, OCT. 1. Money. Bills Actual Debt, 214 per Cent ••• • • • . 53% Ditto, 3 per Cent ••••• • • • • • 63 1 . 2 % Ditto, 4 per Cent..• •••• • • • • ........ 81 84 1 4 Amort Syndic, 3% per Cent.. •••• • • • • 84% 8514 Commercial Company, 4K per Cent •• Spanish New 5 per Cants. •••••• • • .• • • Ditto 3 per Cent., Inland ••• • • • .... Exchangeon London, at sight •• •• .. 12 1234 Two months..... .......... 12 07Yi On llamburgh, at sight .... 35 1-16 Two months..... •• • • ...... 3474, On Paris, at sight.. •••• • • •• Twomouths..... . • 504 BELGIAN FUNDS,—BstissELs, OCT. 2. Actual Debt, 214 per Cent .• •• • • ...• .• ,• Rothschild's Loan, Five per Cent Loan of Thirty Millions, FoarperCent• •.. Ditto Three per Cent...... Ditto Thirty-seven Alillions,ditto ••• • •• Ditto,dltto,lB4o.. •• ••.• • • .....• •• • • 9 5 % 1842......................9534• •• • • 9 5 % Ditto, 1844... •• ••• • • • ••••• • • • • • •• • 87 % Ditto, 1836... ••..•••••••• • • • • • • • • • • 83 Ditto, 1848 .• ...• ••••••.• • • • • • • • •• •• 93 % Ditto of the City, 1832 ••.•••••• • .• • • Ditto, 1843 Bank of Belgium. • Issue of 1841 .......•••..••...•••.... 101% ASSURANCE OF RAILWAY PASSENGERS.--The new system of railway assurance comes into operation on the Great Western Railway between Paddington, Bristol, and intermediate stations, on Monday next, and arrange ments are being made ft,r the same purpose with the other railways in the West of England. [ADVERTISEMENT ]—A Sufferer from Severe De bility and a Shattered Constitution cured by Holloway's Pills. —Mr. Reintjes van Veerssen, a merchant, residing at Nyme gen, in Holland, had been suffering for years from a general debility ; his strength had become so prostrated that he was quite incapable of attending to any kind of business ; his con stitution was rapidly giving way, notwithstanding the efforts of the cleverest medical men to arrest the decline. At this crisis he commenced taking Holloway's Pills, and by their use his health and strength are perfectly re-established, in gratitude for which blessing he desires that publicity be given to it, that others may seek relief by the same means.—Sold by all Drug gists and at Professor Holloway's Establishment, 244, Strand, London. METROPOLITAN SEWERS A special court of sewers was held yesterday, by adjournment, at their office, Greek-street, Soho, at ten o'clock ; Sir John Burgoyne in the chair. The following ,commissioners were also present :—Mr. Chadwick, Dr. Southwood Smith, the Rev. Mr. Stone, the Rev. Mr. Murray, the Rev. Mr. Cowie, Mr. Ilawe, Alderman Lawrence, Sir 11. de la Beebe, Mr. Dawson, Mr. Bidwell, Mr. Baines, and Mr. Lambert Jones. The SECRETARY having read the minutes of the last meeting, stated that up to the 20th of August 62 plans had been sent in, with reference to 51 of which concise statements had been sent in. Since that date, and up to the Ist October, 54 entirely new plans had been sent, and also 32 additional or supplemental ones, making a total of 116, and, including the sup plemental plans, 148. , The SECRETARY then commenced toread the names of those who had sent in plans, when _ _ Alderman LAWRENCE objected. Ile thought i was not necessary that the names of those who had sent in plans should be made known to the public. Mr. CHADWICK said it was considered unavoidable that the names should be read, and that course was adopted by order of the court. Alderman LAWRENCE said he had never known such a course adopted before, and he thought many of the authors of the plans would object to their names being made public. The Rev. Mr. COWIE said he protested against the proceedings of the court with refence to the drainage question. With respect to the commercial advantages expected to be derived from the manure, he thought that point was not at present decided, and in consi dering the question of the drainage of the metropolis, it was at the very root of it that it must depend on what was to be done with the soil. With respect to the water question he would not say anything, be cause Mr. Leslie had a motion on the subject. Thirdly, he thought the competitors who sent in plans should be remunerated, because it was unrea sonable to expect that men of talent would send in plans without remuneration. He thought it was altogether a hasty and ill-considered proceeding. He would, therefore, give in the following protest : " I hereby wish. to enter my protest against the present proceedings of the court in respect to the general drainage question, fur the following rea tons :—First, That it seems to me to be the duty of the commission to lay down rules for the guidance of the competing engineers on general points of great importance, viz. :—the commercial value of sewage manure, and the mode of the disposal, whether in a diluted or a concentrated state. On the conclu sion arrived at with respect to these points depend the main features of all plans, whether there shall be several outf ails or only one—whether the house drainage and the surface drainage shall be united or separated. And whereas the preliminary inquiries on these points are not completed, and the court has no opportunity of supplying the competing parties with the requisite data, the diversity of the plans will only lead to further con fusion and delay. Secondly, That it seems to me an essential point to bo ascertained, as preliminary, how much additional water supply is required, and how much can be given; having fully concurred that we cannot expect an economic system of house drainage to answer well unless the metropolis is more abundantly supplied with water. That upon calling on the public at large to give in plans, some rule should have been laid down for the remuneration of the competing parth s. For these reasons I fear that the present proceedings will lead to no practical result or benefit to the metropolis, but will rather aggravate the complaints against the commission; and believing that the court has been hurried into these measures by the urgency of the chief surveyor, sup ported by a portion of the public press, when they ought to have bestowed more consideration on the prelimina• ries, I beg to tender my protest against the same. " MORGAN COWIE." Mr. CHADWICK agreed with some of the points to which the Hon. Member had alluded, but he could not see that they could at that court do more than order the plans to be classified. They had only received the plans a few days ago, and they had not had time to give them consideration. Ile thought a classification might be made of the plans already sent in, and then they could decide whether they should be considered according to the separate classi fication, or consider them altogether. He would therefore propose that the author of each plan sent in since the 20th of August be called upon to give in a concise statement of the main features of his plan, both in respect to the details and principles, and then that a special court be summoned to decide upon them. At present they were not in a condition entirely to support the proposition of Mr. Cowie, although he agreed with him on some points. He could not but regret that all that had been done by the trial works committee had not been made known, because if that .had been done a great benefit would have arisen. The surface survey and the subterra nean survey were the only works which had not been completed. With respect to the amount of remuneration, he did not see that they could consider that question at present, although they might do so at a future period. Alderman LAWRENCE thought the plans should be submitted to some eminent persons of competent knowledge, to examine and report to the court upon them, and unless that courre was adopted he was sure the City would object to the decision and proceedings of the board. Sir HENRY DE LA BECUE thought that those who had sent in plans latterly should be placed on the same footing as those who first sent them in. He was of opinion that.they ought to receive the plans merely, and then that they should have abstracts of the new plans and consider them; and that for that purpose the court should be adjourned. If that was not agreed to, he would suggest that they should form themselves into a committee pro forma, for the pur pose of considering the subject. He would, there fore, second the motion for adjournment. The Rev. Mr. MURRAY agreed with the proposition cf Mr. Chadwick. He had looked at the plans which had been sent in, and he thought there would be no difficulty in making a classification. Of 52 plans 19 agreed in advising a double tunnel, and there were about 21 plans which might be considered miscella neous, and he presumed that of the 50 plans which remained, it was probable that something like an arrangement in general principles, as, for instance, whether two tunnels were necessary, would be found. He thought the whole might be so arranged that there would not be more than five or six classes. Mr. Alderman LV,VRENCU said it was reported out of doors that there was great disunion among the members of the board, and he thought it would be most unfair to leave the decision of the merits of the plans in the hands of a board where the merits would depend upon a majority or minority. Sir 11. 1-4 LA. I3zoni thought the board was MAR YLE BONE. Mary Harding was placed at the bar for final ex• amination, charged with having stolen property to a c)nsiderable - amount belonging to Mr. James Porter,- an upholsterer, &c., in an extensive way of business in High-street, Camden-town. The Magistrate committed the prisoner for trial. WORSHIP-STREET. George Ewing, a congreve-light manufacturer, in. Weilington•row, Bethnal green, appeared to a sum mons before Mr. Hammill, charging him with having wantonly and cruelly tortured an acs, the property of a rival trader in the same business, named Lester. It appeared from the evidence of a lad named Bird, in the service of the complainant, that while driving the animal in question, attached to a heavily laden cart, along the Betnnal-green-road, on the morning of the 24th ult., the defendant suddenly advanced from the foot pavement, and after inquiring whether that was Mr. Lester's donkey, to which the witness replied in the affirmative, instantly snatched his whip out of his hand, and exclaiming "I'll show you how to make a don key go," repeatedly drove the end of the handle, which was broken and jagged, with such force into the under part of the animal's flank, that it sprang forward in great agony, with the blood pouring from its side, and on witness stopping and examining it, he found that the flesh had been torn away, and a laceration left at least six inches in length. The poor aeimal was also suffering from three other serious wounds in the same tender part of its body, and one of them was sufficiently deep for the admission of the end of a man's finger. Several bystanders, who had wit nessed the act, expressed their indignation at the brutal behaviour of the defendant, who thereupon threw down the whip, and, exclaiming that he knew the best way to cure a donkey, took up several hand fuls of mud, and after rubbing them into the wounds, turned carelessly round and walked leisurely off. The poor animal appeared to be enduring the most acute pain from the cruelty to which it bad been subjected, and witness was obliged to lead it all the way back to his master's premises. His employer subsequently complained of the injuries his animal had received to Mr. Thomas, the secretary to the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, and by his advice the present proceedings were adopted. The lad's evidence was fully confirmed by that of two witnesses and Holland and Fitzgerald, the war rant-officers, and Mr. HAMMILL, after characterising it as a most cruel and wanton outrage, said that this was clearly such a case, in his opinion, as was contemplated by the Legislature in investing him with a summary power to deal with it in an adequate manner, and he had therefore no hesitation in putting in force one of the clauses of the amended Act for the punishment of such offences, and should order the defendant to be at once committed to the House of Correction, and there kept to hard labour for two months. The defendant, who appeared astounded at the de cision, was then removed to the cells. CLERKENWELL. Richard Matty Smith, a soi-disant captain, Thomas Lawes, and Charles Frazer were again examined, charged with uttering forged cheques. The following additional evidence was adduced : George Russell, a constable belonging to the City, 34, said that on Tuesday, the 25th of September, in consequence of information he had received he went to Kite's coffee-house, Blackfriars-road, where he found a mahogany writing desk (now produced) in the private passage of that house. On opening it he found it to contain a cheque book, No. 5,676, of the Commercial Bank, Lothbury, and also a pass book on the same bank, the title within the book being " The Trustees, Commercial Bank, London, in ac count with Thomas Lawes." It was a blank cheque book. There were also two memorandum books in the same desk, and appeared to be cashed by Thomas Lawes. Mr. T. Kite, proprietor of the British Coffee - house , Blackfriars-road, said that on Tuesday, the 25th of September, a man called at his house, and requested that he might leave the desk until he called for it. Witness allowed him to leave the desk. He never saw the man hefore or since. _ _ Mr. A. Paul, clerk to the Commercial Bank, identified the books (produced). The cheque book was issued from the Commercial Bank to the pri soner Lawes, whose handwriting witness identified in the book. John Hall, a waiter employed at the Clarence Hotel, Allersgate-street, deposed that the prisoner, Captain Smith, had been staying at that hotel about three months. He had not paid his bill, and never saw him pay any money. The prisoner Lawes was in the occasional habit of visiting him at the hotel. By Mr. Ilobler—The prisoner Smith may have paid a bill to his (witness's) master without his knowing it. By Mr. Mullins—lt was usual to pay the waiter, who delivered the money to his master. He could swear positively to the prisoner Lawes. Mr. F. Cuthbertson , boot maker, of 123, Alders gate-street, deposed, that on Tuesday, the 28th of MAIL STEAM PACKETS. At Malta—The Triton, Lieutenant C. J. P. Glinn ; Antelope, Lieutenant F. Smith. En' route to Marseilles, from Malta—The Medusa, Lieutenant Bathurst; Medina, Lieutenant A. Darby. En route from Malta to the lonian Islands and Greece —The Merlin, Lieutenant J. H. Turner. PENINSULAR AND ORIENTAL STEAM NAVIGATION COM- - ----•----- FANY'S FLOTILLA. At Southampton—The Pacha, Erin, Indus, Sultan, Ripon, and Queen. En route to Gibraltar and Southampton, from Malta —The Euxine. En route from Southampton to Malta—The Ilindostan At Constantinople—The Tagus. UNITED STATES' SQUADRON. On a Cruize— United States' steam-frigate Mississippi, bearing the flag of Commodore Charles W. Morgan ; Constitution frigate, Lieutenant J. S. Rowan (Acting); Jamestown corvette, Commander Mercer. FOREIGN SHIPS OF WAR AND PACKETS IN PuRT. The French steamer Leonidas. Yachts—Petrel, Firefly, and Sapphire ; Russian Government corvette Calypso ; Tunis brig Nassir; Ottoman schooner Sajah Caters. PLYMOUTH, OCT. 2.—Her Majesty's ship Ganges, 84, Captain Henry Smith, is ordered up harbour to refit, previous to sailing for the Mediterranean. Her Majesty's iron steam•vessel, Trident, went up harbour to-day. The Heels steam•vessel was paid wages yesterday, and sailed to-day for the coast. Her Majesty's frigate Alarm sailed yesterday for the West Indies. Her Majesty's steam-vessel Confiance is ordered to take in stores for the esstern ports. " ' , Captain Creyke, R.N., died this morning (not of cholera), at his residence, Albemarle-villas, Stoke. PORTbAIOUTH, WEDNESDAY.—It is stated that the Court will remove from Osborne to London on the 9th instant. _ _ . --- The royal yacht Victoria and Albert will be again dismantled, and will go up to her winter moorings shortly. The Leander, 50, is alongside the yard jetty, under the sheers. Captain Dacres joined on Monday. A party of riggers commenced rigging her yesterday. Her masts have been wedged. The toremast appears to be placed very far forward. She is a remarkably handsome ship; but on account of the peculiar formation of her bottom, and great height between her decks, her hold is shallow, and her room for the stowage of provisions and water rather confined. her gun carriages are on board, and she will receive her guns immediately. She can fire four guns ahead in a line with the keel, and the same number aft. As yet we believe we have no sailing frigate fitted with pivot gums, but we can see no reason why they should not be so fitted; a heavy lung pivot gun forward and another aft on the spar or weather deck of the ship would be of great advantage to her. She would still have her two forward and two after guns on her main deck to fire in a line with the keel when required. The Serpent, 12, was commissioned by the master on Tuesday last. The brig has been brought into the basin and masted. A party of riggers are employed on her. The Scourge, steam-sloop, has been ordered to be prepared for immediate commission. The Fire Queen, recently paid off, is to be brought forward again immediately, probably to replace the DWarf in Ireland. The Encounter will not go to Spithead till to-morrow (Thursday), where she will await orders. The Confiance, steam-tug, Martin master, siiled in the afternoon of Tuesday from Devonport for Portsmou h and Deptford, with stores, conveying Mrs. Stigant and family, widow of the late storekeeper of this yard, to Portsmouth. The Ilecla steam-vessel, embar ked her mails at Devon. port on Tuesday morning, and sailed in the afternoon for the coast of Africa. The Wolverine, 12, Commander M. Falcon, has been taken into dock at Chatham to have her bottom cleaned, which was very foul, and was to be put out of dock yes terday, when the Wanderer, 12, was to have been taken into dock to be opened for survey, &c. The Wolverine has completed her complement of men. The Horatio, steam screw guard-ship, is ordered to be fitted with a steering apparatus, proposed by Mr. J. J. Fincham, assistant master shipwright at Chatham. Mr. Turner, late superintendent of shipbuilding at Bombay qud who has by en Chatham Dockyard since the arrival of Cie Meanee, superintending the return of stores brought home by that ship, has been ordered to proceed to Liverpool and the Frith of F0r . ,11 to report on quaran tine ships at those places. APPOINTISIENTS. Lieutenants—ll. W. Wright, and IL V. Haggard, to the Scourge. Blaster—J. W. WI. Hall, to the Scourge, BIR, THS, On the 28th ult., at Great Benny Rectory, near Sudbury, the wife of the Rcv. J. W. Harding, of a son. On the 29th ult., at Wollaton Rectory, Mrs. Charles Wil loughby, of a daughter. On the 30th ult., at Ilythe, the lady of Captain C. F. Skvring, R.E., of a son. On the 30th ult., at Eltham, Kent, the wife of George B. Wollasfen, Esq., of a son. On the 30th ult., at Dalston, Mrs. Edward P. Bond, of a daughter. On the Ist inst., at the Priory Farm, Peckham Rye, Mrs. Charles Stevens, of a daughter. MARRIED. On the 2d inst., at Broadwater Church, George Waugh, Esq.. of Great James-street, Bedford-row, to Emily, third surviving daughter of the late George Edmunds, Esq., of Worthing. on the 2d inst., at Totteridge Church, Francis Kee, Esq. of the Royal Engineers, second son of J. 11. Koe, Esq.. Q.C.' to Isabella, eldest daughter of J. 11. Puget, Esq. On the 29th ult., at Charlton Church, Isaac Offord Phillips Stuart, Esq. ' of the General Regkter and Record-offi c e of Seamen, to Eliza, daughter of William Edwards, Esq., of New Charlton. DIED. On the 28th ult., at Belle-vue, Reading, Colonel David Williams, aged 8:'. On the 29th ult., at Clapham-rise, John Close, Esq., of St.hired's-court, aged ;JO. On the 29th ult., at Eastbourne, Sussex, Allen Williams, N. 8., aged 32, only surviving son of Allen Williams, Esq., of St. Thomas-street, Southwark. On the 30th ult, at Amiens, Sir Samuel Scott, Bart., of Sundridge-park, Kent, aged 77. on the Ist inst., at lircniky, Middlesex, Mr. Nathaniel Gill. aged 63. On the Ist inst., at Marine-terrace, Margate, Mrs. Innis, of Euston-square, Lodon, aged 69. On the Ist, inst., in Seymour-place, Euston-square, Frances widow of John W. Caley, Esq., of Gray's Inn, and Queen square, Bloomsbury. On the tld inst., at Camden-terrace, West, Mr. Edward Cutten, sec nd S9ll of Mr. Charles Cutten, of Greenhill-lodge, Harrow, aged 34. In London, Thomas Harris, Esq., Royal Navy, of George street, Devonport, aged 55. ---- London : Printed and Published by MURDO YOUNG, of No. 112, .Strand, Printer, at The Sun Office, No. 212, I Strand, in the Precinct of the Savoy, in al' county 0 •, ta‘cidlesex, Thursday, October 4, 1849. LOSCOM HAM -and WI smith, in both in ti tamest, d Five Ilan of. a Serie Servants. C lIANC I referred t this Cowl and inter atituted person Or of the sat Oalee in f. oat their defaul Order. 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