The Sun. — London, England, 1855-03-13 00:00:00

ided foroore after/or:0, and s° 0 1 . The do ,nt O le • r fitted,to 0,0 he - al 0 1/ 4 01 E ...N . T rJ j/41F1 FLR C 7.1; INT It,' LLIGE C eror,:o b Oft, It a' I where liis : ,nd Canadian are still in demand. Account nut, April ,le, 24d. .. 96 96 .11 ;nds 1858, 3i per Cont. 991 / 1859, OF FOREIGN FUNDS TTL I),A Y la, 46 per Cent. 7O x d 1822, 5 per Cent. £ St 10) ;, 5 per Cent. ........... 861 6 3 per Cent 366 Deferred, 3 per Cent. 18 , 3 /4 ;tee Cart. of Coup. not fun 4i p a 3, 6 percent 791 80 lends on the above payable in London. go, 26 per t :14.11L. 12 Gni'. Cent. Certifieates ... 94 THREE n'OLOCII. 93 1 8 April Account LATE P. M. EHENET, ESQ. bel ° :i vi.,,1 8 gr,„ 0 0 tt p- kr co j 400 0 00 0 0_ , ) I i°, 1 , 1 bri bovv., A B t ep , "' ' h o itio r , ti o d Jew _AIP p gyp, )o,l er e t O. e r0 j7 0 ; 51 A i ,) of s ig eo ° l l d 41 19 o ie o f to ) : 3 to e r our° h ' ) 1 o t o le , r :1 111 „ o le 9 ' 7 181 ' il4 h 6 t ial NW 61 , f6g r • opg ids ,r o t on lid ; th e )1 1 . • Th e CITY, TWO o'C LOCK. tit , cotton m ar k e t a t Li verpoo l yes t er d ay c l ose d 1 4 a steady appearance. The sales were esti led at 8,000 bales (including 1,000 for export 1 141 50° O speculation), 350 Pernam and Mara.u ,Lat s id. to 7d, ; 500 'Bahia, at Gd. ; 600 31r 440 ) at sd. to ; 500 Surat, at 3d. to Tye'' and 80 Sea Islands at is. to 2s. per lb. t _ Share Market was quiet, but at firm. quota- Th e ,, it t '" are two arrivals from Sydney this morn ' dates are old, and it is not yet ascer •e be gold on board. tors of the Royal Swedish Railway ake the following announcement of :cial meeting of the shareholders, held in he 29th May, 1851, a resolution was un led, authorising the Directors to raise a ling 100,0001. on loan, and after much i!y have determined upon giving effect to in the following manner, viz.:—To create tions' of 41. each, bearing interest at the !tint. per annum, and redeemable at the each obligation, a certain number to be wally, and the whole to be redeemed :ars. .ted above, that 11,146 shares have been eited, and the deposit paid thereon, viz , - everted to the company. The directors ly fair that those who have paid up regu- Are the benefit of this fund ; and they use to offer to the proprietors 16,942 of Ins, being in the proportion of two obli lry five shares, at the price of 2/. 15s. for , n, the disc amt thereon being covered by . eceived on the forfeited shares. Any ch way not be claimed by the proprietors td of hereafter by the board for the benefit with confidence to the co-operation of the L carrying out this financial arrangement, airity of these obligations, having a first way, is undoubted. The annual interest, issue, will be more than 7 per cent., and advantage by redemption is considerable. i issue of them would enable the directors sy further call until after the opening of les." :ning of the Stock Market there was of the same quietude as before, but :onsiderable animation has ensued. 921 for tranfer, and 921 to 931 for ie broker sold rather a large parcel, .t time the quotations were slightly ng 921 for money ; but the French , munenced operating, and, as it was at favourable political news had rapid improvement occurred to 93/ ,m 1 to 931 for account. Among the Int was one to the effect that Sweden the Western Powers, but the letter tolm, published in another part of does not warrant the assertion. ails were marked 6s. to 9s. premium, ler Bonds 991 to Bank Stock for dealt in at 216. .acurities have been•quiet. Russian 5 lave been flatter, realising only par. toek has been at 86} to g. Spanish 3 ive been 361, and the Deferred 18k, ;h case rather lower. The Turkish 'ver, have risen to 79i A. Dutch 2i ive been 62k. Lug are the nominal prices of foreign mada Deferred Bonds, 5 to 6 ; ; Peruvian, 70 to 72 ; ditto Three 0 to 52; Port uguese Four per Cents., ius.siPT , Five per Cents., 99 to 101 ; and- half per Cents., 89 to 91 ; Deferred, 18 to 18-i ; ditto Three ,A to 37 ; ditto Certificates, 4 to 5 ; 4 to 4i. .way market the English Shares have more buoyant since the commence ,ess, and upon the improvement in the ,here is still comparatively little doing. Shares are more dealt in, and the •sign and Colonial Mines there have air transactions. United Mexican Agua Fria are still rather flat. The Banks are dull. Royal Mail Steam and Canada CompaLy are fully sup- 'UNDS THIS DAY.—CLOSING PRICES. (Brous tkc Offlcial nuAnus done Shut Limed Annuitie5,,,,,,,..... Shut tsols Annuities ...... 021 4 32i31 3 Annuities ....... Shut , Expire sth Jan., 18e0 Shut ears, Expire 10th Oct., 1859 Shut -s, Expire sth Jan., 1860 4 3-16 224 7 216 921 3i 3 a seep pain that a e have to record the sudden .e death of P. M. Feeney, Esq., a gentle for more than 14 years honourably con ;he reporting and literary departments of ;o which his large and varied attainments, td graceful facility of composition and ex lered him an able and most valuable con :w men engaged in the severe and arduous Loudon daily press have ever maintained inection with it with higher honour to them % greater advantage to the press itself, than . Of the multifarious demands which a tcessantly makes upon the mental energy tequirements of its retainers, there was not was not always able to meet with rare unmatched promptitude ; and as there was sigh to be above, or too small to be below, grasp of his comprehensive talent, so was there ;elf in high that his genius could not ele ,nything so small that his pleasant fancy wit could net adorn and beautify it. He beloved by every one to whom he ever be , He carried into air the relations of pri same genial temperament and quick intel 'h distinguished his literary career ; and the his labours have now to lament, in his pre ,drawal from among them, one of those irre is that create in human intercourse a void ;her companionship can fill—a shadow which tut joy can efface. The more sacred sorrows once lighted by his presence we must not unveil ; but even here our regrets are not with the bright memory of life's tenderest gently borne, and life's noblest duties man -Morning Herald. our cordial but regretful sympathy to the Mr. Feeney was really a most worthy and un ettleman. We knew him well, for his first with the London press was by The Sun, remained for about ten years, during which often rendered very essential service in our iry expresses during the memorable agitation Inn Bill, Corn-laws, &c. He was one of our ;in Sir Robert Peel's speech at Glasgow, 1 511 The Sun office within twenty-four hours -17, notwithstanding the great snow - storm , block e d up a large number of Tory mernbere on oi k ," iv to be present at a division, which baffled N l l 'scious schemes. There were but few railways clays ; i but the energy and enterprise of The lectt all the London papers together by nearly hours.—Ed. SUN.] .&%t- lira • ng to Constantinople letters, the two Turkish IV:iglites the Taif and Mertschi:lje arrived on the Of t , Trebizond, w i th 2,000 Tunisians on board. ktA t Z4o' o lra' marched to Batoutn. The new commandant yli t i ` l , , .,\Va%.sif Paella, was at Erzeroum. The Turkish 1/4111, 1 ( 1 , ‘ "es have succe e d e d, it is reported, in suppressing ' f ki rebeli.ion. 1 1 4 Ik tlT AND COUNTY DOWN RAILWAY. —At the 1 11 Mt 4. r.9 meeting on \Vedneeday a dividend of 14s. .ea t ; s lhara was declared for the half-year, being at ti ki ,thkiof 21. IGa, per cent. ot t p t ,, t ., s' AND BELFAST RAILWAY.—The dividend dc liv. NI the half-y ear l y mee ti ng was at the rate of 5 per • annum, leaving a balance of 6,700/. of which 41 11 E 1 , 9 as brought from' the preceding half-year. llei:t1611 t 1 ) IP. k.A.sE OF THE EMPEROR OF RUSSIA.—It is AN 4 n professional circles, that there is nothing, 14111igit, tali improbable in the account given forth of 1 , _lllness of the Emperor Nicholas. On all hands h eel , remarked, thet, during the past. winter, ‘441 (1 d thy , e . aths, after short illnesses, have been * - "' ut t: ora,inarily common. In not a few instances 144 has f severe pulmonary complications during _ 114 . 8 proved rapidly fatal. 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Di ' 1' . N 1 •41 (1 Iv ,tiot l i dlo A so ,ly fu l l ites g ber e '„, ,t , eip Riled e T o d' tie ° add I' \ y e, i - c ere S A . 4 9 • 1°1. M a 0 . .., 1, off IP, , `4,,,,..7 gel , , 40 00'. '' .. t , be n 1 0 12 ell 0 11 * re il e o l b t o (1 h 0 01 e 0 , be tt er r t a rdi n a le 0009 t o dr 1 1 ttefor fer e Cril i 2. IVO A 0 e \ -e Porti r o drY 4 r e , ‘ „, flo .00 jiff i , k, — u 4 i .1 lg livez IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT • HOUSE OF. LORDS,—(YESTERDAY.) SECRETARIES AND UNDER-SECRETARIES OF STATE BILL. Earl GRANVILLE briefly moved the second reading of this bill. Earl GREY said he understood that the bill was ren dered necessary by the recent consolidation of the old War-office and the new department of the Secretary of State for War. He could not say that he did not enter tain serious doubts whether, even as a temporary measure, that was, as a whole, the best measure which could be adopted, nor that it did not fall extremely short of the general reform of the military departments which he was convinced was necessary, and the urgent necessity of which was more. and more proved by every day's experience, and by the new disclosures of mismanagement which had ex isted. But although, as he said, that measure could not be considered as effecting all the necessary general improvements in the military departments, still he could not but feel that it was not proposed with that view by the Government. Shortly after the appointment of the noble lord the Secretary of State for War to his present office, he said, among other things, thet the atten tion of her Majesty's Government should be called to the subject of the constitution of the military departments. The Minister of War had promise:?, shortly after his ap pointment to office, to consider the means of consolidating, under one Minister, the whole of the civil administration ; but at the same time, he stated that he could not turn his attention to that subject until he had directed it to others of a more pressing nature, affecting our army in the Crimea, and necessary for repairing the evils existing there. Ho (Earl Grey) thought this perfectly fair and reasonable, though, as he had stated before, he thought that the at tention of the Minister of War would have been directed to something more useful than the measure which was now before them ; still he had,no fault to find, and he waited with patience for that larger measure which he had pro mised, and he had no doubt that lie would, in due time, either propose it to that house, if Parliamentary interfer ence was necessary, or advise her Majesty to adopt it of herself. He wished to call the attention of the house to this circumstance. If it was only that the present con stitution of the military departments was uusatilactory —if the Government stated that they intended at an early period to bring forward some plan for putting these departments on a more satisfactory footing, then it appeared to him that it was highly inexpedient, while the departments continued in their present state, that any mea sure of a larger character should be adopted, involving a large expenditure which had no reference to the imme diate wants of the country. With regard to the expendi ture necessary for carrying on the war, no one objected to her Majesty's Government, though imperfectly constituted, proposing whatever might be necessary ; but when they came to large and extensive plans, involving a very heavy expenditure, plans which were not to take effect during the present war, but had reference to the permanent wants ' of the country, the case seemed to him greatly altered ; and regarding plans of that kind, ho could not but say that he thought, in the present state of the departments, that a large expenditure of that kind ought to be avoided. It was on this account that he observed with no small degree of alarm the votes which had been proposed in the Ordnance estimates in the other House of Parliament, which, of course, being public documents, lie was at liberty to comment upon in that house. The alarm had been increased by the manner in which, as he had beet informed, those votes had been explained. He found that it was proposed to take a vote of more than a million sterling for now works. This was in addition to the sum of 560,0001. voted last year, se that altogether the increase in the two years would amount to nearly 1,600,0001. ; and these sums, large as they were, did not represent the whole expense, because a very considerable nuaiber of works which were to be undertaken would not be finished with the grants proposed to be taken ; therefore the sum in volved was one of very considerable importance. They were informed that these votes were with a view to the permanent defence of the country —(hear, hear)—not for providing for any particular danger in one year rather than in another, but for enabling the country to maintain a proper position of independence. The house would see, therefore, that they came strictly within the works which, in his opinion, it was inexpedient, at .that moment, to proceed with. It appeared further that the great bulk of these works consisted of new barracks and new fortifica tions. It had been explained that it was intended to re move or put an end, in a great measure, to the present sys tem of dividing the troops into comparatively small bodies, and to erect barracks capable of containing large numbers of men. He entirely approved of that design. (Hear.) It was an alteration in the present system which he had long thought ought to be adopted. He knew it was iejet rious to the army to employ troops as an armed police— (hear, hear)—to divide them into comparatively small de tachments. He also thought that, in point of policy, it was highly injudicious that the preservation of the public peace should be confided to the army. They knew that, in the metropolis, where the police had been established about 2G years, though we had gone through times of no ordinary difficulty, in no one instance had it bean necessary to employ the troops against a mob. In former times that necessity was continually occurring ; but since the establishment of the metropolitan police, excepts in some few cases in which it had been thought proper to have the troops ready to support the police, in no one instance had it been necessaary to use a troop of dragoons to restore order. He thought that the troops ought to be kept only in situations where, in cases of Rations disorder, they could be called into operation. The railways now presented such convenience for rapidly concentrating a large body of troops, in case of emergency, that no difficulty could arise. But this was not the time for erecting new barracks, which were not likely to be finished until the present war ended. They were providing temporary barracks for 50,000 men, and he could not help thinking that this accommodation, in addition to that already existing, would be amply suffi cient to meet the immediate exigencies of the case. The other object of the votes was to make new fortifications for the protection of our coasts. No doubt that, in itself, was a proper object to attend to. (Hear, bear.) No man could doubt that it was advisable to provide against any small expedition that might make a descent upon our coasts ; but if we were to point out a time less necessary than another for such works, it was the pre sent, because we were in strict alliance with one of the two great maritime powers; and as to Russia, with which we were at war, her ports were so pecu liarly situated, that we had the means of completely pre venting any attack by her. He thought, moreover, that our experience before Sebastopol had shown bow much might be done, in the way of defence, by mere earthworks. At the present moment, Sebastopol was infinitely stronger than when our operations first commenced. _He was afraid that Russia had shown a superiority to ourselves in many points of military organisation. He could not deny that she had not only a much larger army, but that it seemed that that army was better managed, and better handled, in proportion to its size, than our own ; and that, with all our wealth and progress in civilisation, we had reason to blush at the manner„in which we had been outstripped by comparatively barbarian forces. He believed that if au exi gency arose, in a few days, nay in a few hours, the hands which executed our great railways would be able to put our maritime towns in such a state of defence, and raise up earthworks of such a character as would make the works at Sebastopol appear a mere joke. On these grounds then, he maintained that these works were not urgently neces sary, and not being so, the argument which he submitted was this, that it was injudicious to proceed with them in a time of war, when the several departments of the Govern. ment were necessarily occupied in making arrangements for the active prosecution of the great war in which this country was engaged. At such a time as this it was ut terly impossible that a great plan for the re-distribution of the troops in peace, and for fortifying the coasts, could bo considered with that deliberation and care which ought to be employed. There were a great many questions to be set tled, not only as to the most convenient places in which accommodation could be provided for the troops, but as to the science of fortification. Present experience had proved that it would not do to follow the beaten tracks without carefully inquiring what alterations on former plans ought to be suggested by the progress of modern science and modern inventions. • He would say, therefore, that even if these subjects had been properly con- sidered by the authorities, it was not during war that they could be satisfactorily dealt with. The Government had determined to remodel the civil departments of the army. They had undertaken to do so in accordance with general opinion from one end of the country to the other ; for it was evident that under the existing organisation those departments had net been well conducted, and that there had been a want of judgment both in employing the money which had been voted by Parliament from time to time in keeping up those services which were to be employed in war and also in the application of those grants since the war, broke out. He believed that a great part of the mismanage ment was particularly due to the Ordnance department. He had no hesitation in saying that from what he knew of the manner in which that department had been conducted, under every successive Administration, during the peace up to the present time, and that, more especially with re ference to the manner in which the grants during the 40 years of peace had been expended, there were the greatest grounds for mistrust. With regard to the fortifica tions, it would ill become him, a non-professional man, to express an opinion as to the works of that kind which had been undertaken. But this he knew, that with respect to many works which had been undertaken, be found a ge neral concurrence of opinion among men of science, that those works had been injudiciously planned, and expen sively executed. He knew that some of the mistakes pointed out had been the subject of derision to many fo reign engineer:, and which a non-professional man could easily perceive, when pointed out to him, though not able himself to discover them. He would mention one case which had been pointed out to him some time ago. He was looking at one of the new forts for tie protection of Plymouth. Looking to the inner mound, with its large number of guns, it seemed to him to be a place of great strength; but a gentleman pointed out to him that, though the battery looked very well, it bad been the re - mark of a foreign engineer, that it was a "regular shell trap." It was placed immediately at the foot of a preci pice of rock, so that every shot or shell, fired at that bat tery must strike it, or break down fragments of the rock, and in a few minutes kill every man in the battery. That was a battery erected within the last few years, and in other works similar errors were to be detected. Then they came to the case of the barracks. With regard to them, every man might form an opinion, more so than iu the ("age of fortifications. He found that the Cambridge bar racks were to be built at an expense of something more than :V ,000/., to accommodate 500 men and 44 horses, which was at the rate of about 701. per head, while r- two or three-roomed cottage could be built for that sum—(hear, hear) —and would certainly provide better accommodation for six men than was given to the soldiers in the barracks. He found at Shoeburyness accommodation was to be pro vided for field officers at an expense of not less than 1,200/. per man. A good farm house, for a whole family, could be built for about SOO/., or 52 per cent. less than a single field officer's accommodation. But the accommodation for our troops was both indifferent and costly. This being so, was it expedient that we should incur further expenses nutil the matter could be considered by authori ties competent to form ajudgment ? At time present time no confidence could be placed in the departments. There was no Master-General of the Ordnance. The Minister of War had said that all the various offices should be brought under his own eogilizance and control. The question was, who was respousible ? Surely the war in which we were now engaged was a sufficient load ; yet he war told it would be necessary to add to the present weight upon the public resources a sum not less than from 15,000,000/ to 20,000,0001. for the expenses of the current year. If the wants of the country were as large as lie believed them to be, he thought they would be able to meet them ; but he believed that, in public as in private life, borrowed money was apt to be unwisely expended. He thought the esti mates laid before Parliament were characterised by reck lessness. Ho did not grudge anything necessary to early on the war vigorously, but he thought we were throwing away money by thousands—nay, by hundreds of thou sands of pounds—unnecessarily. (Hear.) Ho thought it was the fault of the Government to act too much upon THE SUN, LONDON, TUESDAY EVENING MARC impulse, and it, was open that ground that he now objected . to the •reckless erection of barracks. He reminded the [ house of what occurred at the conclusion of the last war, whee the barracks in this country were sold precipitately, and lie believed the same reaction would now take place if ' this course were persevered in. He hoped it was not neces- ' sary for him to apologise for bringing this subject forward. i Lord PANMURE said the noble earl need not have made ; any apology whatever for having introduced this subject. He had listened to his address with that interest which he I always felt in everything that fell from his noble friend, ; more especially because he believed that there was no indi vidual in that or the other House of Parliament who had 1 for so many years with so much zeal and assiduity, turned his attention to the subject then before their lordships. He should pass at once to the measure before the house. The principal part of the speech of his noble friend would be an s wered by one short piece of information, namely, that with reference to the construction of either barracks or bul warks, all that could be suspended, till he could lay before their lordships the plans, had been directed to be sus pended. (Hear.) With reference to the several points upon which his noble friend had touched, he could not concur with him that he had condemned fairly the appli cation of the vast sums of money that bad been voted by the House of Commons. The first was the fortifications which we were about to erect for the defence of some of our priueipal ports. Now, as to those fortifications, he could not agree with his noble friend that this was not the time. (Hear, hear.) As his noble friend stated, the time would come when a • reaction would take place ; but lie (Lord Pantnure) considered, as far as that observation went, that we were moving in a right direction ; and lie quite agreed, that it would rest upon any Govern ment who undertook it to be responsible that those works were ;lone in the most approved manner, ac cording to the newest and most approved principles, and in the most economical manner to be effective. (Hear.) With reference to the barracks, his noble friend thought the principle of collecting troops in one large bar rack, instead of scattering them in smaller barracks over the country, was objectionable. He (Lord Panmure) en .tirely approved of the step we were now taking, and he be lieved, if it had been taken some 10 or 15 yea. e ago, we should not now have to complain of the inadequacy of our troops to undertake field operations, or to be so little ac customed, as they appeared to be, with the habits and duties of a camp. 25,0001. did seem a large sum to be ex pended upon a barracks, but it was a barracks for 10,000 men. His noble friend said we had to rely entirely for this information upon the Clerk to the Ordnance. He (Lord Panneure) had inquired, and he fourd that an engi neer officer, of very considerable experience and reputa tion, had been entrusted with a message to Belgium to in spect a very large barracks there, with a vjew ' before the plans were adopted, to see all that had been done there. Now, what were the objects of this barracks? It was to Concentrate 10,000 men on a particular point, at which point opportunities would be afforded for the exercising of that force, consisting of infantry, cavalry, and artillery, in all the operations of field exercise ; and seeing that the men learnt the habits and duties of a camp, and giving that large body of troops, during a time of peace, that prepara tion which would best adapt them for a time of war—(hear) —that means might be adopted in this country for training our men, without any one being able to point to those faults which were recently pointed out. Those faults would be remedied by the sad experience of the war ; but they were faults which must not be allowed to occur again. With reference to expenditure, he entirely concurred with the noble earl that eve ought to consult the skill of those great contractors tvho had made their names famous. He could not see himself why barracks were to be built by military nations alone, and he had yet to learn that it was either prudence or wisdom te retain a corps of military labourers and bricklayers to do that which the people of this country could do much better. With respect to the Ordnance Department, it was not his intention to go into that subject at the present time. All he wished to say was this, that while ho had given orders upon the one hand that no new works which could be avoided should be un dertaken at the present time, so, on the other, he had en deavoured to be in a position—as he hoped he should be in a few days—of laying before the house the manner in which he proposed to alter the several establishments of the army. (Hear.) He proposed to deal largely with the Ordnance Department. He proposed to unite all the se veral departments of the army under the superintendence and management of a departinent of war, and he trusted to lay before their lordships such a scheme as would be ef fectual for that purpose, though, perhaps,it would not go so far as his noble friend (Earl Grey) thought it ought to go. (Hear.) With reference to hut barracks, he believed reasons had arisen to show there was not a necessity for quarter ing a large army in this country, as, for that purpose, we had more barracks than we required • but we had a large force of militia embodied in this country. It was true, we had legal means of quartering them—we might quarter them in billets ; but ho did not know one more unpopular act, or one more oppressive on: the part of the Government or the Parliament, than quartering in billets so large a force. (Hear.) It was his object to relieve as much as possible the people of this country from the present system of billeting. At that moment there was a great body of militiamen embodied in this country—there were 44,00 d effective men embodied—out of whom 10,000 were in bar racks, and 34,000 were in quarters. It was for the pur pose of taking these men out of quarters that these hut barracks wore being erected, or quickly run up. He be lieved that they would be built in such a manner, and be put into such a condition as that, with proper care being taken of them, they would last for several years, but if they should not be required, they might be disposed of in the market with some advantage to the public service. He had alluded to that point of his noble ft iend's speech, because he wished to assure the public, on the one hand, that the billeting system would be as speedily as possible lessened ; and he wished to assure the officers of the militia, on the other—who had the morality of their men at heart as much as any officers of the regular regiments could have—that their man weald be as speedily released from their present position as possible—namely, their being - on billets. For these observations he thought the house was indebted to his noble friend (Earl Grey) for having brought this subject before them. He would not follow him in the discussion on the financial condition of the country; that would be discussed on a future occasion. But he would repeat that their lordships were under an obligation to the noble earl for bringing the subject forward. (Hear.) The Earl of MALMESBURY entirely agreed with the intentions of her Majesty's Government in regard to their erecting barracks at Aldershot fur the purpose of lodging the troops, be !ause it was not sufficient to spend money in the enlistment and drilling of the soldiers alone if they did not give them every opportunity of being brigaded and disciplined, and being looked after as a regu lar army. Earl FITZWILLIAM wished to know whether any in tentien existed in the minds of tho Government that it would be desirable, during the peace which he treated would soon be restored to them, to maintain a larger esta blishment than they bad had during the last long peace. Earl GRANVILLE said it was the intention of toe Government at the close of the war to give a more mili tary character to this country, though it was somewhat premature to answer such a question. The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH said last year a large manufacturing town would have been exposed to absolute desolation if it had not received the assistance of the mill pomrl la d ic e i eu r , f t at o he ta t u h t r e ti hn w ge i y t d h i d should,s t r r a i w e t i s n , g i n o f w , t h h i e c h s ( soldiers mili tary. It wo u ld, therefore, be absolutely necessary, in an a c w e v s 'y m f ig ro h m t take either by arrangements with the civil bodies who had the power of employing the troops, or by legislation, have a uniform system of police capable of protecting the public) peace. Lord PANMURE was uuderstood to say that, in col lecting the 10,000 troops at Aldershot, care would be a w Aldershot ass i e taken that the large manufacturing towns should not be without TheE alisl o protection. The t, ESMERE said the ca had his entire approbation. The bill was then read a second time. Tno Exchequer Bills (17,183,000 1 .) Billmp t as p through committee. Their lordships then adjourned at five minutes past 7 o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS—YESTERDAY. MASTERS IN THE NAVY. Mr. LA - YARD asked if the arrangements of the Ad miralty for promoting masters in the navy for good ser vice were yet completed I Admiral BERKELEY said the Admiralty had agreed that the pay of masters should be increased according to service. justice to Scotlant or Ireland in this ,m4ter, jaut justiee to England mustnot be lost s;ght of, and he hoped, Vierefore, the Chancellor of the Exchequer would put a stop to the prop►sed expenditure for the large scale survey. Mr. ELLIS, jun., said Scotland for the last six years had been made thevictim of experiments in this matter ; but the one-inch scale would be found the most econo mical and the most useful, and he called upon the house to adopt it. Mr: GLADSTONE said the manner in which this subject had been treated was little creditable to our ad ministrat:ve systen, but the Government had done no thing yet that cold be binding in point of expense, and it was now quite open to the house to determine the final result, and fix the scale upon which the survey should be made. There was one of two courses open to the house—either they ought to go onwards beyond the six-inch scale, or en back to the one-inch scale ; but if they conceded the former to Scotland, depend upon it the same demand vould be made for England and The LORD ADVOCATE supported the 25-inch scale, because be thought it the best adapted for all practical purposes. Mr. DUNLOP entreated the house not to prejudge this question, but to wait until they had the materials before them for deciding upon it. Mr. BAIL LIE urged the necessity for arriving at a final conclusion on this question. After a few words from Capt. BOLDERO, Lord SEYMOUR gave notice that on the second re solution in the repsrt which relates to the scientific de partment of the Ordnance, he should move that it be re duced by 53,0001., and the decision on that motion might be taken as a decision upon the question of whether a large or small scale should be adopted. Mr. MONSELL pressed the noble lord not to reduce the estimate, as it in no way pledged the. house as to the scale to be adopted. Mr. ELLICE, sen., on the other hand, hoped the noble lord would adhere to his notice. The subject then dropped, and the report was re ceived. THE COLONIAL DEPART' NT. On the motion that the Speaker leave the chair to go into committee of supply, Sir J. PAKINGTON observed that, as no othersuitable opportunity appeared to offer for calling attention to the state of the Colonial Department, he now rose for the pur r ose of doing so; and he must say that, in his opinion, the extraordinary state of the Colonial Department, and the state of the public business in connection with it, appeared to him to be extremely unusual, unsatisfactory, and hardly decorous. A noble lord in the other House of Parliament had put a question upon the subject, the reply to which was so unsatisfactory that he (Sir J. Pakington) felt it to be his duty to renew the inquiry of the Government. When the first question had been put to the Government, the reply was that Lord John Russell would not be so long away as was supposed, but he begged to remind the noble lord at the head of the Government that neither the noble lord who had made the inquiry in the first instance, nor himself, had entertained auy supposition on the subject ; but that, finding the Colonial Department without any satisfactory Minister, they wished to know how long that state of things was !Lily to continue. He had been given to understand that Lord J. Russell was only to settle the general principle of the treaty, and that he was not to remain at Vienna until 'the details of it were finally arranged. This appeared to him to be unsatisfactory, as he understood that the general principle of the treaty had been already laid down. He had been always of opinion that the worst things for an ambassador to settle were the details of a treaty ; and it seemed to him that the noble lord, feeling the responsibility of two duties, was about to return to England, to attend to the duties of the Colonial , office, before he had settled the special business upon which he bad been sent to ienna. He (Sir J. Pakington) be- CHATHAM BARRACKS. Mr. STAFFORD asked the Under -Secretary for War whether it was the intention of the Government to continue St. Mary's Casemated Barrack, Chatham, as a receptacle for soldiers returned from the East ; and whether it was intended to convert the whole, or any additional portion, of Brompton barracks into an hospi tal for our sick and wounded soldiers ? Roved that there never was a moment when it was of more importance that there should be a responsible Minister at Vienna; at the same time, he did not believe there was any precedent for the course which had been adopted in sending a Minister of the Crown, holding another important office, to act as a Minister Plenipotentiary. It was true that Lord Castlereagh had gone to Vienna, but he • was at the same time Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs ; and the busi ness which he had gone to transact was intimately con nected with the office which he held. He did not believe that there eh im was p r t a a i n t aeonrecordef going gleft departmentof so mach y in cea s s ta th n the Colonial-office with out even an Under Secretary to answer questions in the house. He was quite aware that the right hon. gentleman the Secretary of State for the Home Department had inti mated that he would give attention to colonial affairs; but, without wishing to disparage the right hon. gentle man's abilities, he ventured to state that it was perfectly impossible for any one person to conduct the affairs of two such departments as the Colonial-office and the, Home office. The state of our colonial empire at this moment was such as to require the whole attention of a responsible Minister. They had heard that Moshesh, one of the most powerful chiefs of South Africa, had given c ause t o the Government for uneasiness. with respect to his conduct, and they had also heard that there was cause of uneasiness not only with regard to the Kaffir s ' but also with res p ec t to the Fingoes, a tribe which had hitherto been dis tinguished for their loyalty and devotion to the British Crowe. It was probable that those warlike tribes had heard of the position in which this country stood in refe rence to Russia, and that the intelligence might, in some degree, account for th , it recent movements. In the colony of Victoria, also, acts of insurrection had occurred. Blood had been shed, and there had bests a struggle between the mixed population and her Majesty's troops, which had, however, been subdued, by the vigour and decision of Sir Charles Hothaus, the governor of the colony. It was use less, however, to deny that the state of the colony was very critical. The Coneict Prevention Bill was also exciting great attention on the part of the colonists of Victoria. There was another pressing question which required the attention of a Colonial Minister, and which ho hoped was not to be hung up until the return of Lord John Russell— he alluded to the bills for granting constitutions to the colonies. (Hear.) The colonies had performed their part of the centract with reference to these bills, and it was only right and just that the Crown should now proceed with the hills at once. Them was moreover scat caly a day that passed that did not bring despatches to the Colonial-office from some of the colonies. These 4f e.§patollos involved 'questions , of local int?rest—questions of individual right and justice which it was absolutely necessary that • the Government should be in a condition to pay immediate attention to. The people of Newfoundland had made complaints against their governor, and it was very much to be regretted that the Colonial Minister was not prepared to inquire into the case. When the people of this country found that the im portant duties of the Colonial-office were neglected, as he had shown them to have been, they would be greatly dis satisfied ; but what would be the feelings of the colonies themselves? (Hear.) Would they not feel that the prac tical suspension on the part of the Government of attention to their affairs was very disrespectful to them ? He had reason to believe that such was the light in which some of the most• important of our colonies viewed the matter. Almost every one of our colonies had ahewn an earnest de sire to give assistance to this country in the efforts which she was making to resist the aggressions of Russia, and he hoped that the noble lord at the head of the Government would give them some assurance, more satisfactory than had been given in the other House of Parliament, that their affairs would be attended to by the Government. It was true that they had been told, in the other Howie of Parliament, that Lord J. Russell hoped to be able to return to this country before Easter; but that statement was made in a very vague manner, and, considering the nego tiations in which the noble lord was engaged, it was very improbable that ho would bo able to return to this country so early as Easter. But, even if he should, the delay which had beau already occasioned by his absence would be one that ought not to have been permitted. Unless the noble viscount at the head of the Government could give the house some more distinct assurance than had been already given, it would become the duty of Parliament to inter fere in the matter. Viscount PALMERSTON—Sir, I mast entirely deny the assumption upon which the right hon. baronet has founded his observations, viz., the assumption that colo nial matters are neglected, and that a slight has been placed upon the important colonies of this country. The right hon. baronet says that there should be somebody in Parlia ment responsible for what is done or not done with regard to the colonies. Sir, there are several persons responsible. My right hon. friend (Sir G. Grey) and myself are respon sible ; and, if the right hon. baronet, or any other member of this house, thinks fit to bring forward any charge against the Government with respect to the management ofcolo- Dial affairs, we are perfectly ready to stand here in our places and justify the course which has been pursued with respect to the colonies. The right hon. baronet expresses a very natural curiosity to know what is the particular . course which my noble friend has been instructed to Pur sue with regard to the negotiations at Vienna. He wishes to know what he is to insist upon, and how long he is to , insist upon it—what he is to be sat isfied with, and when he is to come home ; but I am sorry to say that I am not able, consistently with my public duty, to gratify the very natural curiosity of tke right hon. baronet. Sir J. PAKINGTON—I made so such inquiries. Viscount PALMERSTON—WeII, something very like them. I can only say that my noble friend will act in con formity with the instructions which he has received, and that we do not anticipate that his stay at Vienna will be so protracted as the right hon. baronet expects it to be. (Hear.) But, sir, the way in which this question has been treated would lead one to think that there never had been a case before in which a public department had been vacant for some time. Now, the right hon. baronet himself in stanced a case in which a Secretary of State was for a very long period absent from the country—that of the Secre taryship for Foreign Affairs, which was held by Lord Cas tlereagh when he was absent at Vienna and afterwards Pal is. And cannot the right hon. baronet recollect the period when one individual held almost all the offices of 3tate?—(hear)—when, from the middle of November till, I think, the end of December or the beginning of January, there really was not one person responsible for the conduct of almost all the important offices. I think there was such a period ; and I am in hopes that that period is fresh in the memory of the right hon. baronet. I deny that any inconvenience has been sustained by the colonies by the absence of my noble friend. I deny that the colonial affairs have been at all neglected. Any decision that has to be taken will be taken upon the responsibility of my right hon. friend, and if necessary, with the concurrence of his colleagues; and wo stand here as responsible as if my noble friend were in his place, perfectly ready to answer, if any matter relating to the menageries:it of the colonies shall be questioned by Cie right hon. baronet or any other peraou in this house. (Hear.) Mr. ADDERLEY sail the right lion. baronet (Sir J. Pakiugtou) had not prefer. ed any charge against the Government with respect to the management of the colonies, but he did charge the Government with not having eppeinted some one whose sole duty it should be to attend to the duties of the Colonial-office, in the absence of the Colonial Secretary at Vienna. The right hon. baronet had shown that this was D.llo:it important and critical perie d with re,gardi, to oar coronies, end that now, above all ether times, was it important that their complaints should be attended to. Ile (Mr. Adderley) be lieved that the riots which had taken place in Victoria would not have occurred if a liberal constitution had been granted to that colony with all possible expedition, and he entertained a similar opinion with regard to the Cape of Good Hope. Canada had contributed most liberally to the Patriotic Fund, and yet no thanks had been given to thorn by the Government. Bat the Emperor of the French had expressed his gratitude to the Canadians for the sum which they had transmitted for the relief of the sick and wounded French soldiers iu the Crimea. Canada had offered to raise and support a body of volunteers to aid the British army in the Crimea. No distinct answer had yet Mr. PEEL was unable to answer either question, as he was not aware of the changes referred to. ORDNANCE SURVEY. On the motion that the report on the Ordnance Eel mates be agreed to, Lord ELCHO called the attention of the house to the present state of the Ordnance Survey of Scotland. At the close of the last century it was thought that a one inch survey was quite sufficient to suit all purposes, but in course of time a six-inch scale was substituted in the case of Ireland for the one inch. In 1851 a committee investigated the subject so far as Scotland was concerned, and that committee reported that the old one inch to the mile scale would be sufficient for Scotland ; but the people of Scotland were dissatisfied, and they had since nmmorialiseCi the Government to have the survey made on a scale of 24 inches to the mile, a scale which has been app ro v e d o f by several eminent scientific men although the Board of Ordnance were opposed to it. The scientific and professional men of Scotland were then polled upon the subject and they were required to state which they preferred, n 6 or a 24 inch scale. Thirty de cided in favour of a 6 inch, and 120 in favour of a 24 inch scale. These same authorities were afterwards re quired to state which they should prefer to be adopted, a twenty-four inch scale or a decimal scale, giving 25 and a third inches to the mile. The majority were in favour of the latter. Accordingly, in July, 1854, a Treasury ininute. was issued in favour of the larger scale, and its cost was now being tested by con tract and piece work. In the meanwhile it had been estimated that the survey of half of Scotland, which would embrace the whole of the cultivated and improv- able districts in the larger scale, would cost 498,0001., while the whole of Scotland on the nue•inch scale would cost 114,0001., makinEr, a total of 612,0001. De- duct from that total 90,0001., which had already been expended in some of the works, and the cost of the sur vey %%inch Scatland mostly preferred would be 522,0001. Lint SEYMOUR said this was a very important question, because they were ca'ied upon to make a sur vey of Seotla‘ol that would render it of no use to the public ; besides, they had insufficient ground to deter mine as to what would be the cost of the survey, and he of jtTted to putting the nation to enormous expense when the cheaper one-inch scale would satisfy all public pur poses. If private parties, such as railway or drainage companies, required a large scale let them pay for it. Colonel DUNNE said it would be very unadvisable to resort to the larger scale, but he should certainly prefer a four or six inch to a one inch scale, speaking for military and ordnan2e purposes. rne one would cost no more than the other. Mr. COWAN doubted that; indeed he believed the increased cost between the two would not be six times, but thirty-six times, more. He thoroughly concurred in the whole of what bad fallen from the noble lord the member for Totnes. Mr. RICH said it might be all very well to talk about 1055. . , I _been given to that generous proposition and he be hived ; that; in the end, after having been referred from one tiblic depaitment to another, it would be rejected. The ce (Mies of Great Britain were never more loyal than at this mo ment, and it was of the utmost importance not to act as if we slighted there, for a suspicion that we did so might change their loyalty and affection into alienation and hatre. Sir G. GREY said the question under discussion appeared to be whether such great public inconvenience had oc curred from the arrangements that had taken place during the temporary - absence of Lord John Russell at Vienna , ... ,. as to call for the interference of the house. He was per fectly ready to state that he felt himself utterly unable to conduct permanently-the duties of the. Colonial-office as well as those of the Home-office. (Hear.) He should re joice most sincerely if he were relieved from the responsi bility which had been thrown upon him for a short time bv the absence of his noble friend at Vienna. But when his noble friend intimated his willingness, at the request of the noble lord at the head of the Government, to accept the seals of the Colonial Department, it certainly appeared to him (Sir G. Grey) that that acceptance was, under the circumstances in which the noble lord (Lord J. Russell) was then placed, not an insult, but a cause of great satis faction to the colonies. Although by the acceptance of office he (Sir G. Grey) felt that an additional responsibility would be thrown upon him, yet he also felt that it was his duty as a public man not to shrink from giving any assist ance which might be required, and which ho thought might be conducive to the interests of the colonies. When the right lion. gentleman said that the whole colonial business of the office was at a stand-still, be must take leave to can tradict that statement altogether; and say he did not be lieve that, during the short interval which had already elapsed, any particular inconvenience had taken place. He would now proceed to deal withthe specificstaternents made by the right hon. gentleman (SirJ. Pakington) as to the four points on which inconvenience was said to have arisen. The first was with regard to the Cape. From letters which he had received from the governor of that colony, there was too much reason to apprehend that the peace which had been established between the colony and the Kaffirs was one that could not be looked upon as permanent unless measures were taken to consolidate the security of the country. Yesterday week despatches arrived from the Cape, stating that the, governor, from information he had received, was about to set out for the froutior. Tho in telligence was of a conflicting, although of an alarming, character ; but it was impossible to deny the state of that colony was a critical one, and that prompt measures wore necessary. The despatch iu question, however, asked for no assistance from home, and it stated, that in no case would the governor be necessitated to send to this country for any additional force. The Government had given this despatch their careful consideration, and had taken, with out any delay, the measures they thought necessary in order to strengthen the hands of the governor. He (Sir G. Grey) did net know what his noble friend (Lord J. Russell) might have done if he had been here, but he did not be lieve that noble lord would have acted otherwise than the Government had thought proper to act. The next point to which the right hon. gentleman had adverted was as as to the state of Victoria. What information had they with regard to that colony? Not one single word had reached the home Government from the governor with re gard to the disturbances referred to. It might have been a very serious tumult; but, judging from the public prints, he found that it had been suppressed in 20 minutes, and he trusted the accounts the Government might yet receive would show that nothing to justify the use of the term "insurrection" had taken place, and that perfect peace and tranquillity had been restored.. With regard to New foundland, he might state that he had himself settled the .question which had been referred to, before he gave up the seals of the Colonial-office, six weeks ago. He believed there was one question pending with respect to an appli cation. made on the part of the Assembly in Newfoundland to remove, the governor of that colony, who was appointed • by the right hon. gentleman opposite (Sir J. Pakington) ; and ho felt bound to say, with every respect for the right hon. gentleman, that he did not think the removal of a governor was a questien in which the Colonial Secretary ought to enter into private communication with any pri vate gentleman coming from the colony. He was not aware there was any question now pending which required the decision of the Government. With regard to the con stitutional bills, he admitted that if he had continued in office, he should, by this time, have been able to submit to -the house a measure founded upon those bills. The right hon. gentleman had said, that ho wrote a despatch upon the subject more than two years ago, and yet the bills were still in the hands of the Colonial-office, and that such delay was likely to lead to much inconvenience and dissa tisfaction. What was the delay with which the right hon. gentleman charged the Colonial Department ? He (Sir G. Grey) found these three bills waiting for the decision of the Government in the month of June last. One of them had been received in May, three weeks or a month before he took the seals of the Colonial-office. They required a careful investigation, and were, therefore, referred to the legal advisers of the Crown, who did not make their report until sometime after the prorogation of Parliament. It would hardly have been satisfactory to the colonies to have had the bills dealt with at the end of the session in a hasty and superficial spanner, and it was impossible, without the assent of Parliament, for the Crown to give its assent to those acts. When he was writing to the governors of these colonies, it occurred to him (Sir George Grey) that the course adopted by the colonies was a most inconvenient one,,and he had taken occasion, in answering a despatch 'from the governor of Van Diemen's Land, to suggest a mode by which the inconvenience might be avoided. The view which he took was immediately adopted by the Legislative Council, and the bill sent home was oue that might be submitted at once for the assent of the. ' Crown, and might at once become law. He must re mind hon. gentlemen that it was vary easy to introduce a bill into the house, but it was not so easy to insure full at tention to a bill, when every night was of importance to enable the Government to pass the estimates, which were so necessary for the prosecution of the war. He had al ready stated that ho had fully communicated with his noble friend (Lard J. Russell), when he (Sir G: Grey) held the sealsof the Colonial Department, with regard to these bills. The subject was one which the noble lord had given great attention to, 'and he did not think any delay would arise from their being postponed until his noble friend's return. He could not dofentl the present arrangement as a per manent cue, anduobody would more rejoice than he should in being relieved from the responsibility which was now thrown upon his hands. .W. LO WE said that., from what the right hon. baronet the member for Droitwich (SirJ. Pakington) had stated in reference to the question of the constitution of the Austra lian colonies, he thought it might be inferred that that right hon. gentleman had entered into a species of con tract with those colonies, and had given the house to un derstand that the measures to come before it were the le suit of such contract, and that their deliberations were to be swayed by it. As he was most anxious that that con tract with the colonial legislature should not be carried out —as he was anxious to remove the prejudice and impres sion which had been created by the right hon. gentleman, and as this was a subject with which he (Mr. Lowe) was necessarily , familiar, he would trespass on the house for a short time while he explained the nature of that contract. In 1850, it was the pleasure of the house, contrary to his own opinion, to delegate to the Australian colonies the powers of constituting an assembly, and framing their own constitutions. Though he objected to that he did not think the matter would have come to the present, he must say, most disastrous State, had it not been for the right lou. gentleman the member for Droitwich. In 1852, the right hon. gentleman addressed a despatch to the Governor of the Australian colonies, stating there was an impression in favour of an upper house of legislature being nominated by the Crown. The right hon. baronet expressed that opinion, and he (Mr. Lowe) regretted to say further, that he so far mishnderstood the Act of 18'0, and mistook his duty as _ _ Colonial Minister, as actually to acid to that expression of opinion that, if the colonies would consent to appoint such nominated.houses of legislature, the right hon. gentleman would give them up the dominion over their waste lauds. Now, he asked the house, what possible interest had wo except in seeing that those people governed themselves in the manner which would best suit their own local in terests ? What good would this country derive, supposing the right hon. geneleman should succeed in fixing upon the colonists a nominal upper legislature, by the bribery of these waste lands ? As knowing something of the colonies, he, for one, protested against the House of Commons or the Government being bound in any way by what was done by the right hon. gentleman. What the right hon. member did was against the policy of the Act of Parliament, and against the duty of his office, and ought not many way to bind them. Ho would beg the right hon. gentleman, who held for a time the seals of the Colonial-office (Sir G. Grey) to avoid the example that his predecessor had set him, and in all things to deal with these questions in a spirit of the utmost purity. Let the right hon. gentleman look at the question merely as one of the will of the colo nists, and if he was satisfied that will had been sufficiently expressed by the vote of the Legislature, let him carry it out. Under the inducement of the right hon. baronet (Sir J. Pakington) these colonies had sent home long bills, by which they had g iv e n th emse l ves var i ous powers which they had not hitherto possessed ; they had dealt with the most minute questions of royal prerogative, they had given full retiring salaries to public officers, and they had given pledges and guarantees of a very dangerous nature to per sons who' were now in the occupation of 50 or 60 millions of acres of waste lands. He entreated the house that they would not bo persuaded by clamour, or by any declara tions of persons sent here by the colonies, so far as to for get their duty—as the Imperial Parliament of this empire —to consent to pass in a lump 70 or SO clauses in the acts set before them, merely because they had passed Before the Colonial Legislature. He begged the right hon. gen tleman (Sir G. Grey) to avoid contracts with the govein ments of ourcolonies. What he gave, let him give freely. He (Mr. Lowe) had ventured to speak in a tone of admo nition to the right hon. gentleman, but his own local ex perience of the subject must be his excuse. Bet he must say that, unless they acted with great circumspection in this matter, they would only he sowing the seeds of endless confusion, and promoting bickerine o s and disturb ances, or they must be ready to surrender their colonial empire for ever. Sir J. PAKINGTON said he should take another occa. sion to show that the hon. gentleman who had just sat down tad formed an entirely erroneously opinion, and had completely misunderstood his intention and his acts upon the occasion to which reference had been msde. Mr. J. MACGREGOR did not think that the negotia tions at Vienna would be brought to an end so soon as the Government seemed to expect ; and this country and the colonies might well be dissatisfied with the state of things which Lord J. Russell's absence would produce in the Colonial-office. The colonies would feel that their affairs had been entrusted to the irresponsible management of a few clerks in the Colonial-office, and they Would, no doubt, come to the conclusion that they ought to insist on their independence ofthe British Crown Mr. J. G. PIIILLIMORE strongly protested against the ticket of leave system ; but hoped that the system of transportation would not be resorted to again, for it had been condemned by rcasou and experience. The subject then dropped ; and Mr. EWARThaving stated in ,grealcr detail than on a previous pieta the improvements whit!' have Leon recently introduced into the school at Eton, The house resolved itself into a coturnittec of supply upon THE COMMISSARIAT E'iTIMATES. Mr. PEEL, in submi ttinz the est iarttes to the conunittee, said that they were about four tiitic.s r..s large as those of last year, for instead of being 600,0001. they were this year 2,400,000/. That increase had been chiefly occasioned by the war with Russia. About 325 persons were engaged in she Crimea in providing food for the army there. The wages of the men employed in the construction of the rail way from Balaklava to the camp would be about 50,0001. if they should be employed for the whole of the year. When the railway was completed, they could be most use fully employed in other services. These estimates would provide for the food of 40,000 regular soldiers and of about 65,000 militia in the United King.lom. The rations which was being at present, and had been for some time past, served out to the army in the Crimea, was as follows :—To each soldier per day, 11b, of salt meat, or 1, of fresh meat, 'it was well known that 'seine of their 0 4erefepir.-- 47 - -- 4 ` ried out in the worst possible manner; . ~,, q _7 l 4- i iiin cii. ,-- , ..t L x, the clothing sent to the Crimea, and .t, ,, • ,.., p e rea p . .:Kt. ; -\ - ,' , plied to the navy. The most reispecta , let gigs: Of th e _ N44 .4 country would not send tenders to thet'Goprnment, b e . -%:, t . cause they knew they Would be ottbicfaiir. , perione-Who `:, ;7 r; b\ 4l4. only dealt in inferior articles. Teahad 131i0entione4 by -` ,/,,_ an hon. member, but it would be about 6.:wore4tbing , ',;,."** the Government could do to go into the ma et and askfor -- - 7 a tender for a supply of that article. The price would ran- S mediately run up, and the Government would have to se ' cept a tender at an increased rate. It would be much bet ter to go to a respectable house, which be believed would !not only undertake to supply a good article, but agree to furnish it to those for whose consumption it was intended. Mr. WILSON said the observations he made bad no re ference whatever to the army in the East. There was a great difference* bet Ween an army in the field, subject to uncertainty and rapid and constant .movements, and an army in a settled community. He alluded tp,eur various coMmisiariat'establishnients all over the world—at Ber -muda, the Cape of Good Hope, and other places—where the troops were stationary, and where there were persons -on whose rood faith they bad perfect- reliance, - and who I - were amenable to the law. It did not require very much consideration to see that feeding the army in the Etst by contract mould he a most inetileient and unsatisfactory mode of proceeding. The contract system, like every other systeui, was detective in svaie poiro4;" 'lnd lie asked what the country would think of their all'oving the officers of the commissariat and other departtnenti to deal with. pri vate individuals without the check of publicity? (Hear.) Viscount EBRINGTON complained of ;the bad quality of the clothing which had been furnished o the troops. This was attributable to takinc , the lowest tend sr, without reference to the qua lit y, and h aving persons to inspect the goods who knew nothing of the duties they were called upon to discharge. He wished also to impress upon the Government the great importance of supplying the troops with vegetables, and this wilether they had s a lt or f ret '} meat. 1} lb. of biscuit, 1 oz. of coffee, 1 oz. of sugar, 2 or. of rice, and 1-32 parts of a gallon of rum. . . On the total amount of the different items in the esti mates being proposed, Sir F. BARING obseried that this was the 'first time that the estimates had been arranged under the new eye tom, and that it might perhaps be the most convenient opportunity to make a few remarks upon the manner in which that system had been carried out. He had always been of opinion that all payments by the Treasury, as far as they related directly to military affairs, should be trans ferred to the War Department ; but he saw no other rea son why matters of finance, banking, and other business of that kind, should be thrown upon the War-office. He very much doubted the policy of handing over the whole of those matters to the War-office whish might be transacted with greater ease in the Treasury. Again, with respect to the great mass of colonial expenditure, which appeared to -be transferred to the War-office, he feared that its trans action would completely overwhelm that department ; and that if the war continued for two-or three years more, it would be impossible to get through it without, great con-. fusion. He would like to see a commission appointed, which would provide that while a proper check was re served to the Treasury, the other departments should not be overwhelieed with work which it was impossible for them to discharge. Mr. WILLIAMS said the estimate now proposed would complete the war estimates for the present year, whi c h amounted to nearly 40,000,000/. He would like to have seen the estimates referred to a committee of the house, as it seemed to him that the house was voting the money without any inquiry. (Hear.) He believed it would be far better to consolidate all the payments connected with the war, anti to make one person responsible for them. He had hoped that the charges for the transport had all been done with. He had hoped that the charges for the transport had all been done with, but now ho found an item of 282,000/. for transport service in the present esti mate. He considered that all these charges ought to be consolidated, so that the house might be able to discuss them at the same time, and with reference to each other. Mr. WILSON said that the various duties which the commissariat officers abroad had to discharge belonged to various branches of the Government. They were duties of a financial and executive character, and the way in which their' accounts were adjusted was that the accourrts were referred to the audit office, which separated them all, and charged to each departnaent the portion which fairly belonged to it. There was a curious element' in the commissariat service called the commis/mist chest fend, which contained a floating sum of /,2k30,000/. This sum was still managed by the Treasury, and the War and Naval Department were responsible for the portion which they had of the fund. The Treasury was responsible that this fund should , merely meet advances, and that all pay.. Infants made out of it should be . refunded as soon -as pos sible by the particular service on account of 'which the advances were made. Lord SEYMOUH said, the separation of the depart- , ments had taken six months to effect; and that it had not been accomplished in a satisfactory manner. He was not prepared to say what the beet arrangement would have been, but he thought that the Treasury had transferred all the difficulties of the Commissariat Department to the War Department. This confusion was not, however, fairly chargeable upon the House of Commons, but upon the Treasury, which had effected the transfer in so inade quate and unsatisfactory a manner. The Commissariat Department had been assailed more than any other, and yet he believed it was the only department in which pro motion went by merit only, and not by interest. With regard to the charge of 282,0001. for land and inland trans port service, to which the hon. member for Lambeth had referred, the charge had nothing whatever to do with the transport of troops by ships, it being intended to cover the expenses connected with moving men and material from place to place on shore. The present item included a sum of 50,0001. for the railway from Balaklava to the camp be fore Sebastopol. He did not want to go through the de tails of the Vote, but there was one point to which he must refer, and that was the rations issued. It was generally 'understood that those rations were principally salt beef, and he thought 'that the Government ought to turn its most serious attention to the question whether other ra tions could not be issued in lieu of salt beef, and that it ought to strive as far as possible that vegetables should be issued with the rations. _ . Lord LOVAINE thought it was a bad system to appoint civilians to the commissariat department. In the East India Company they selected men from among the ranks of the army, who were better qualified for the discharge - of the duties than civilians. Mr. ROCHE said it was not the fault of the contract system that the goods supplied were inferior, but that of the inspector. To accept any than the lowest tender would involve the Executive in the greatest difficulties, and expose them to the gravest suspicions. Captain BOLDERO said that the navvies had remon strated against being deprived of their beer, and that the Government had accordingly fitted out three vessels with beer for their use. If civilians were to have it, he saw no reason why the troops should not also enjoy their favourite beverage. He wished to know why the supply for the army Lad been stopped? Mr. WILSON said that the reason why the Government had .not supplied the troops with beer was, that it was u apart of the regulations. The object of the Government in sending out beer, tea, &0., was to allow the men to pur chase em at the lowest possible price. Mr. STAFFORD was of opinion that the answers of the hon. gentloman the Secretary of the Treastuy (Mr. Wilson) to the statements of his hon. and gallant friend (Captain Boldero) were most unsatisfactory. A general denial was by no means smfficient. His hon. and gallant friend had made, s h e has. a right to make, complaints of the manner in which the commissariat was administered ; and though his hon. and gallant friend had not been allowed to quote the evidence given before the committee, and had been s t oppe d i n d o i ng so , the facts themselves were unfortu nately only too notorious. Were those statements true, or were they not ? The Answers of the hen. gentleman, he re peated, would not be su ffi cient for the people of thfs coun try, who felt so deep an interest in everything concerning the welfare of the army. What had the answer of the Se cretary to the Treasury i'Mr. Wilson) amounted to? . Why, merely to this—that M. Commissary Fader, having already made promises which he had not fulfilled, the Government had confidence? that he would still fulfil them. Bat the statement c)f his honourable and gallant friend would go forth to the c.euntry, and would be eagerly perused. The treatment of ti. , e bo.b:iers wounded in the Crimea who arrived here was disgraceful to the Govern ment. On the voyage, those poor fellows had, to his certain knowledge, nothing better to eat than pork, salt pork—not only salt pork, but even van pork quite ran c id. (Hear.) Yes, and biscuits so rotten that they were full of maggots, and which, to be eaten at tql, ought, like those of the crew of Columbus, to be eaten in ,tho dark. (Hear.) Well, but there was another grievance--a shameful griev ance. Why were not those poor , men p aid when they rived here ? Why did they not receive the arrears of their pay which were honestly duo to them ? Wan it not cruel to deprive a poor fellow who, having lost art arm or a leg in fighting the battles of his country, arrived on our shores of the means of paying his fare to the place in whieh'his ' relatives resided ? (Hear, hear.) And this, too, when the money was due to him. The excuse set up by the officials for this cruel treatment was, that the aszonnts Nati not yet arrived from the Crimea; but those accounts were iu a state of the most hepelesa confusion. Was this the man ner in which, by our miserable system of routine, our gal lant soldiers were to be treated ? Would they permit such a system to go on in the War-office? He had personally complained of this, and would continue to do so until the injustice was remedied. The hon. gentleman also called attention to the state of tho hospitals in the East, and es pecially respecting that about to be established at Smyrna. Last December he had asked the authorities at the War office to establish an hospital at Smyrna, because the cli mate during the winter months was favourable to pulino nary complaints, but his suggestions were overruled; and now that the hot weather was about to set in, and that the climate there would be insalubrious in a high degree, we were about to have an hospital. (Hear, hear. ) Colonel PEEL deprecated those repeated statements re specting matters which were now nutlet consideration be fore a committee upstairs —a committee specially app , inted to inquire into and report upon the state of the army be fore Sebastopol. That committee was most earnestly en gaged in the inquiry, and would, he felt persuaded, have a most searching and thorough investigation. Until the committee had concluded its labours, he would advise his hon. friend and others to forbear rnakiug those statements which inculpated absent poisons to the house. Mr. Stafford had only called the attention of the Go ya!' nruent to evils of a most urgent md pressing character. Mr. M. MILNI. S quite agreed with his hon. friend the member for Northamptonshire (Mr. Stafford), and Lhought the committee would prove an evil rather than a benefit if it wore to have the effect of stopping the mouthsof bon members who had a perfect right to make such statements to the house. (Hear, hcar.) The vote was then agreed to. A vote of 42,1201. was proposed to defray the charges of half-pay, pensions, and allowances. A.c a reed to. The CHAIRMAN then reports 1 the resolutions. The house resumed. The house went into committee pro forma on the Militia (Irelan:i) Bill, and added a clause. The Intramurial Burials (Ireland) Bill was read a second time. The Purchasers Protection against Judgments Bill passed through committee. The Lunacy Regulation Act Amendment Bill passed through committee. PRICE'S DISABILITIES REMOVAL BILL. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL moved for leave to intro duce a bill to relieve W. P. Price, Esq., M.P., from any disability he may have incurred by reason of a contract for sending wooden houses to the army in the Crimea. Mr. PELLA.TT wished to know whether any precedents existed for interfering with the law, imperative as it was laid down, in relation to persons taking G overnmen t con tracts while holding a seat in that house? The SOLICITOR-GENERAL replied there would be no difficulty in finding numerous instances ih which the house had interfered in the case of persons who had incurred penalties under the act. Leave was then given to bring in the bill. ' SMOKE ABATEMENT BILL. On the motion of Mr. WILKINSON, returns were or dered of the number of prosecutions its the metropolitan police-courts under the Smoke Abatement Act, 1853, stat ing the grounds of such prosecutions, and the amount of fines imposed in consequence thereof ; of the node ix. which the amount of suck thane bad been applied ; and of the ex penses attending such prosecutions, METROPOLITA.N LOCAL MANA.GBMENT. Sir B. HALL postponed his bill for the better local ma nagement of the metropolis till - Friday. The house then adjourned at 11 o'clock till this day- Sir H. WILLOUGHBY wished to ask whether the vote of 600,0001., which was taken for the commissariat ex penses of the year 1851-55, included the expenses of t h e whole of that period, as, although that year was a year of war, the amount exceeded but by very little that voted for former years? That was one point which had to be ex plained. It certainly appeared to him that when the house was discussing an estimate, which when voted would com prise a AIM of nearly 40,000,0001., it ought clearly to un derstand the machinery by which it was to be distributed. The house did not know, though they were voting mil lions, that the articles to be supplied with the sums voted would ever reach their destination. It was very difficult, he knew, to discuss the question of transport, but still he thought the hon. gentleman the Under Secretary for War ought to tell them by what means the various stores to be sent out were to reach their destination. Could the hon. gentleman show that they would ever reach their.destina time ? It was useless to send stores at all, unless their transport.was dealt with in the same manner as any man of common sense would deal with it. It appeared from late experience that, though 21,000 tons of provisions and thousands of tons of fuel had been sent out to the Crimea, the soldiers had had to eat their provisions raw, and a large quantity of the stores had never been distributed at all. The hon. gentleman ought at least to show that something had been done to prevent a recurrence of those terrific blunders. When the goods were put on board the trans ports, some one ought to be put with them to be respon sible fortheir safe delivery. As it was it was mere chance if the stores ever reached their destination. All those cir cumstances to which he had adverted seemed to point to a want of arrangement in detail. Mr. F. PEEL said he believed that the difficulties - which had beau experienced in regard to the transport of stores were confined exclusively to land transport. The trans port of stores by sea was managed by the Admiralty, and they had established a transport board to attend exclu sively to that business. He (Mr. Peel) believed such mat ters. would be mush facilitated by their conduct being wholly undertaken by one department of Government. Mr. WILSON said with regard to the question of the hon. gentleman opposite (Sir 11. Willoughby) whether the 600,000/. voted for 1854-55 included the whole expenses of the commissariat' for that year, he (Mr. Wilson) had been asked the same question last year, and had then replied that it was impossible to form any accurate estimate as to the commissariat expenses, and that the Government would, therefore, take, as nearly as possible, the usual voteforthose expenses, leaving it to the vote of credit of 3,000,00.11. to supply every deficiency that might be found in the amount vot,d. This year the Government had had a better oppor tunity of estimating the probable expenses of the Commis. sariat Department, and therefore proposed to take a vote for a sum equal to its estimated expenditure. He would add that the commissariat accounts would still be audited, as formerly, by the Audit Board. Mr. LAING said that the house ought, in order to be able to enter into any useful discussion upon the estimates, to have an analysis, showing how, and to whom, the same were to be distributed. • One of the sums to be voted was a million, or more, for rations for the army. Those rations principally consisted of salt beef. Now; the estimates showed the amount of rations to be supplied to different military stations, bat did not show the number of men at each to whoni they were to be distributed. The house ought also to know the particular items on which the money was ex pended, and nothing would be easier than to give an ana lysis of such items. He would also call attention to the question of many of those articles being supplied b y . pri vate contract. Many of the largest shippers provisioned their vessels by private contract, and it was found moat beneficial to all parties. The majority of emigrant vessels were also provisioned in the same way; and economy and a better supply was almost universally the result. He did not wish to dogmatiseupon the point, for it was a very dif ficult one, but it certainly was onoworthyof investigation, and he thought that, after the transport estimates had been voted, it would be as well to have the matter thoroughly considered by a, committee of practical mete upstairs. With regard to the rations of salt beef which had been supplied to thatroops in the Crimea, he did hope that some different arrangement would be come to with regard to rations. He also suggested that tea should occasionally be substituted for coffee, as the former would be found not only a great luxury, but also in casesof diarrhces, possessed of medicinal qualities. He would also suggest that vegetables should be supplied to the troops as often as possible. They might be sent out compressed and dried. Some such packages had bsen received in the Crimea, and he had heard from a friend lately returned from the camp that they were much relish ed, and esteemed a great luxury. He would also suggest whether oranges might not be supplied. They might easily be furnished, and would bo found great comforts. Sir J. BAILEY asked whether any explanation-had been given to-the house why the army had for so long a time . been rationed almost exclusivelyon salt meat? Anyamount ( ' 2om the Constitutionnel of yesterday.) of fresh provisions might have readily, with the means of The Emperor Nicholas , was not merely's Man, but, transport we possessed, been obtained from Europe, Asia like all other Czars who succeeded each ether on the Minor, and other ports. throne of the Romanoffs, he personified a system, a Mr. WILSON said ample arrangements were made for people, and a tradition. Though the man is" dead, the a fresh supply of provisoes from the coast of Asia Minor, people, the tradition, and the system remain. Whatever and why it should have failed so much of late he was un- name be may bear, t hei sovereign who reigns at St. Fe eble to state; but he saw from accounts in the public pa pers that the difficulty of transpoit was very great, and the tersburg is always but the it C e is ar t , b a u n i d de t a he of C c za a r th is ar n in o e t Nanidchaef &faculty of feeding cattle far greater. It also appeared las, or Alexan d er,. that cattle had died in considerable numbers. With re- Peter, and what is still more, of Russia. Th e E mperor gard to the contract system there could be but one opinion, Alexander , in succeeding Nicholas, can therefore 'lei that in every possible shape and form in which that sys- they change the policy of his ancestors, nor smooth doss tern could be brought to boar it should be adopted. Com- the difficulties of the present state of affairs. His lan ers more Kind, petition by open contracts was supported by all their ex- ganudagheims anyathuerempoerrehamposd:sastet,vhraisnnniranlu. perience, whether the eud to be attained was economy or ame nity, but it does notPdA el e le v n it a lc o e n i h u i o s re ow c ß our w t i e l s l y to and au a u m ed e; efficiency. He admitted the principle most fully, and as relations with Europa • • ', ho may in his far as it could be carried out. At the commissariat eta voluntarily to tiona throughout the world nothing was purchased by pri conditions of peace which might di tract contract or bargain, but everything by public con tract ; and so rigid were the rules of the service, that whe n minish the grandeur and curtail the powers of Russia. the accounts were sent in to the Audit Board they had to These conditions can only be imposed on him by the lee accompanied by the advertisements in the newspapers, authority of victory. This is the feeling which is to show that the trammed," were ma d e p u blic, and also now generally manifested by the press of Germany, bet hperopvreintchipalta t,mheuildowheesetxtteehnddeear ter situated perhaps than any other to understand what hadt h bet the t h e e n e d a e rsa accepted. e t e h p e t m e d s e . I v e ll s , 0 w t o t is the true state of the question. Thus the Bowsenhatie :h t e h a a r t m w y a ? a s muc hamo amoat importantper head he point, a H amburg,o l, f o a have been o f th e f journal u i a t d h e d i lu st., o a a t nn . , cannot states oh te d eat thiht itself of fl f t very tohethEi illusory k petrart further by rat io ioh os in y g not prepared and it was one well worthy the consideration of the Go- " N i cholas. - Th at brin g - venni:lent. a, PEACOCKE said it appeared that the troops sel- r Alexander will over consen t t o trans f orm d om received a ration of fresh meat; but, if h e were cor - the mi litar y p ort of Seb astopol into a commercial one, rec tly informed, preserved meat to any ex t en t m i g ht be and destroy the strongest and most formidable bulwark su pplied to them at a price only 2d. or 3d . a b ove t h e co st . that Russia possesses in the Black S e a, and the asylum 1 the Empero r o f s alt meat. He did not thi n k, cons id er i ng t h e ser vices ,of the domination of the Czars over _a point of the globe on which they were engaged, that the house would grudge from whence they menace at the same thin - Asia. and that additional expense. E urope, P ers i a and T urkey. The eituation '6f - the Col. DUNNE said th e same reokl eisness and waste Eastern question before the conference at Vienna is, characterised the distribution of the relief fund during the I which famine in Ireland marked the expedition to the East and I therefore, now precisely what it was before the of the consequences wer e the mime , in both instances . In lof the Emperor Nicholas. This is the opinion also the East, the destructi on of 2,000,000 of people ; and in the the Augsburg Gazette, which is persuade d 1 • Eest, the destruction of an army. In each case the bl a m e ' ellange which has taken place on the throne of Russia rested with the cominisspriat. The Government were now gi ves no f r esh chance for peace. This idea is also that about to organise a laud transport corps ; but he could not ' of the Ust Deutsche Post of Vienna, which refuses to which th efadt fate does understand why, with the examples to b e fo un d in form e r , see in the renewal of the powers and the coliErailition campaigns of the necessity of such a corps, they should have omitted forming it before the expedition started for I eam,ras , tee for the m oderation of the Emperor Alexander. ti e n t i t S i p v eensse:lus solution n zt u tt l e ktiil ; el f the instructions gieen to Prince Gortechakuff any the East. Lord SEYMOUR thought the observations of the Se- ' it be possible for the t• • cretary to the Treasury required some further explanation. not think that can ' to 'ln - de He u uderetood him to say the contract system was the best Vienna to leac . y 1 This 'is also the opinion decided, for in its sys t e m, and would be universally adopted by our army Sebastopol is _opinion no p eace w hi c h abroad. Now, it might be very excellent in this country, should leave tha cit adel of Russia in the Black , Sea where there was a large mercantile community, but it standing, would offer any gua , antee for the future soca would fail at Constantinople, at Varna, and in Asia Miner. rite , of Europe. toss s Gazette, the Wanderer, and the (Hear, hear.) If they made a contract with an Armenian, I Hanover Gazette express the same idea in different or a Jew, he might break it almost immediately after- terms. The Volkshalle goes further,• and states that the wards, and they could not subject him to any penalties. death of the Emperor Nicholas has rather weakened He, therefore, wished to know whether, in the - purctiasee d than strengthened the hoes ofeace. In fact they all made in the East, the commissariat service was req uire seem to come to this c oncl u sion :—" The Emperor to proceed by contract, because, if so, the sooner the matter Alexander may regret that Russia should have engaged was inquired into the .better. Mr. RICARDO very much doubted wheth er the con- s ln a rash struggle with Europe under unfavourable cir tractback except system was the beat even in this, country. The re oumetances. But he can no longer draw by was added to moat of the proposals of public companies force, and now that the sword has left the scabbard, it for tenders an important proviso, that the parties did not will not be returned to it until Europe, which now sees bind themselves to accept the lowest tender. The same the object to which Russia aspires, shall have gained the . plan, however, was not followed b 7 theGoyernment, and ' cause of civilisation on fields of battle. 4 • THE PACIFIC TENDENCIES OP Ti.TE NEW EMPEROR.