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was his freedom and independence. Any persons they met with acquainted with these things, no matter to what country they belonged, could not deny that if the Austrian and French troops were withdrawn the autho rity of the Pope would be denied, and the people would establish some sort of government more consistent with justice, and admitting some degree of feeling oppo-ite to odif , u.i ,st,- _ ~jeans adopted by Esclesie„ al Go vernments. • If that be the case, what prospect was there, under the present system, that either the E-n -peror of Austria or the Emperor of France would con sider himself able to withdraw his troops ,from that place. But, if they should continue there, it was not only as he had said logically a contradiction to the theory that the Pope ' in order to be free and exercise due au thority over his Roman Catholic subjects, should have an independent territory, but they were likely to cause a disturbance in the balance of power in Europe ; and, consequently, they could not carry on war against “us sia, because she occupied her neighbour's territory, whilst they permitted foreign troops in Rome. thereb y disturbing the balance of power in Europe. This, he thought, was a subject which the British Government ought to exert their power to prevent. Was it not, he asked, possible for the English Govcraroent, in concert with the French Government and with Austria, to devise some system of government for those Roman States consonant to the interests of the people, and have in it the elements of justice. Had the war terminated h i believed it would have been one of the first sub jects to which the King of Sardinia would have directed the attention of our ally—to ask the assistance of" Austria in the task of devising some valuable system of government for the Roman. States, that would enable the Emperor of France and the Em peror of Austria to withdraw their foreign forces, and that foreign power which now prevailed there. Unhap pily they had no immediate prospects of peace, and therefore it was he called the attention of the Govern m Int to this subject ; and he was aware it would not be a r unwilling attention, feeling certain that if his friend at the head of the Government could perceive any mode by which he could influence the Government for the benefit of the people of Italy, and that would place them more in accordance with the general interests of Europe and their own happinesS he would readily em brace it. .He (Lord J. Russell) could not see any ereat difficulty that ought to prevent the accomplishment of what he had alluded to, but of course he did not enter into the question of the original occupation of Rome by France, nor the title of Austria to the dominions he has occupied. It might be said this was an old subjeet— hat this beautiful and unhappy land had been subject to oppression every kind, and had never enjoyed that freedom which people of so much genius, of so much in dustry, and of such - capacity' for the free enjoyment of physical and intellectual pursuits poSsessed ; but be saw • no reason why, because this was an old grievance it should not be remedied, and he hoped they might all live to see the end of this pertieulai-erte. They had seen in past years Spain, who lied net been .30ra-eased by • foreign powers, make vigorous efforts - to improve her government, which • she was still making. and he hoped to God so successfully that they might see Spain in the enjoyment of a representative government, which was at . present no doubt crushed in Italy by foreign influence. He trusted the voice of 'England " well - 1d be raised for the improvement of"the present System of •Italian government; at the same time checking; and'controlling that wild spirit of liberty and enthusiasm which Mezzini and his followers loved to inculca , e. After some farther' general remarks his lordship 'said he did net consider he should have discharged' his duty had he ',allowed the session to close without commending this subject to the notice of the Gotrernment. • Mr. WILTUNSON said' that, no doUbt, the ernpethiesi of the people of this country were with the Italianseend Poles, and Hungarians, but the present was not the fitting time to call upon the Government for active interference. He himself regretted the occupation of Rome, but he could not help thinking that the present position of the Emperor Napoleon might have some connexion withthet occupation. He rose, however, principally to refer to what hid' taken place on a former occasion, lie had ou Friday last listeeed almost with dismay to the speech of the right hon. gentle man the member for the University of (Wort, for he bad never heard sentiments so astounding uttered by "ran Eng lishman: (Hear.) That right hon. gentlemen had risen in his place, and had drawn dishistroes pictures of the re sources of this country, and or. F&nce and Sardinia— (hear)t-and then - proceeded to eulogise, and at the carne time give an aseggerated accountnf, the resources of Rus, sia ; and he trusted that there was no other man in that house who would adopt a similar course. With 'respect to• the terms proposed by Austria, and which her - Majesty's Government were blamed by the right hon.' gentleman• (Hr. Gladstone) for not accepting, he o.tr. Wilkinsout had `always understood the opinion of the noble lord to be that those terms ought to have been .accepted ; ballot) noble lord now appeared no longer to entertain that opinion. (No.) When the hon. member for Wick (Mr. Laing) said the whole question turned 'upon limitation or countereeise, one thing had struck him forcibly with respect to these terms.; and that was, that the proposal for limitation was a tangible plan, while that for establishing a counterpoise seemed to,be no plan at all. If Russia was to he alloWed to have anyenumber of ships, this country, on the Other hand, was to have as many as she pleased; bat it appeaied to him that to establish erich a state of things recidired no plan and no agreement of any sort. The noble lord said that a Point which had .considerable weight with hire was thht the Turkish ambassador, a man whose opinions • commended great influence, believed the Austrian plan likely to be satisfahtery to Turkey, and thee he understood the noble lord to add that' if such were the case the whole object of the war woute be acceeeplislied, anti we should no longer have any right to carry it on. (Lord J. Russell.—"-No,•no.") He ntelerateod the noble lord to say, or at all events to argue, that if Turkey were satisfied with the terms of peace proposed we could not call on her to assist us further without, subsidising her. Now, he (Mr. Wilkinson) bad always thought the protec tion of Turkey was but a means to an etvf, and that the main object in view was to check Russia in her scheme of aseerandisement. (Hear, hear.) •He agreed that it would be improper to carry on this war for one moment after the objects in view were attained, but he could not think those :objects were yet attained.. Entertaining this be lief, he could not help regretting that the house was about to separate without a distinct expression of opinion on the Subject of the continuance of this war, for every vote they had yeti come to on this question had been mixed up with some other matter. It aiipeareil to him that the only short • and speedy mole of obtaining peace was be the Most-vi gorous prosecution of the 'war. Ile warded that which the right hon. gentleman (Mr. Gladstone) said it was ;Laid. to desire, namely, snecsst. France and England' must right. this ont, and succeed they most, or else fail altos-et:hr. He (Mr. Wilkinson)lwas one of those who considered that if a firm.tope.had been adoptedat the first the war might have been avoi•itel altogether. .Now, however that we were einberkechin the war, there was no middle . ceurse, and be cont.' riot understand how any man could dheibt the: necessity of conducting itenost vigorously., -Tee object of • the war, as he understood it, was to show to, the world that the peace of Europe could not be disturbed unneee.s- , sarily, or if it were disturbed, that the consequences .would fall upon the head of the aggressor: Until this was shown, he believed that the country would never be .setis e . fled. He had attempted to move an asucminiont in the course of the debate on Friday night, in order 'to give the house an opportunity of recording that distinct expres • sion or opinion on this subject, which he felt was ne- cessery, but, unfortunetely, he had been unable to seitch the Speaker's eye. Ile was precleiled, now from elicit ing th a t ex p ress i on o f op i n i on; ow i n g to the late period of the session, bat it was his own conviction that there was no -sati s f ac t ory mode of terminating this contest .ex cept by inch a prosecution of the war as hrenld shqw that the peaceeif Europe was not to be disturbed with imputity, - Lord lisilhiSELL.—The hon. gsntleman has miseu tiers-heel me in two very important particulars; First, he seems to have understood me to say that the proposals snarls by Austria at Vienna might be Assented to now, whieh Istlid not say, and did not mean.. .1 said that ' tleotteht those preposels might leave been assented to At that Time, but I do not think they Could he assented to at -the present moment, -and. ladtlel that an opprtainity. for , negotiation would perhaps arise i n th e clime' of the six months during "telriSh fire - recess Might last. • Again,' the . hon. member attributed 'to me the expression that we could not continnettlres war if the Turkish Government were of opinion that - sufficient., term's' of peafo had heen .proposed. I did net state that, but Very leech 4 .-4) eon trarte. What I (lid say was; that if we were+ to continue the war when Turkey was satisfied with the terms Of pe tce, it would be necessary not to guarantee loans ' bat to grant subaidie, subsidie e s, in order to enable her to snake those efforts re quisite to carry on the war. Lord PALMERSTQN.—I do not rise to complain that my noble friend has called the attention- of the houses to' matters of the deepest national importance, and in reg to which he himself when: in office took a loading an 1 a prominent part. It is• natural-that these great questions should occupy his miud 'now, when he was then for a • time called' upon to &Vete' his httention to teem, and it is not ht all Unilateral that as tee close of tare session, when the probability is thilt.,PFth am e et may not meet a g ain for some months to come, he should aysil , himself, Of this t only t i onpoemity, no to state his own views :-b - at to call upon the ,Governme nt, ns far as they _ can . • cousisteutly with.. their duty,' to • tat 9 'what may, be their. views on the matters to which he has referred, sly - noble see m / b egets a y e / i n king hf the 'ana' mint of respon , sibilityWhich'aveighs upon her :.`lajesty'se Government. I e ',clue assure hinvthat the Government are deePlysensibleof the gravity and the importance of that resPereiltitity. _Yr) mw a ehttld. haif3 'beeir A petty to entering into the great • oe 6 stest,in which we are• eugaged—na,..man at least oases -tAilia - ve been a, party .to such a coarse of.policy--withOnt t ' v l ift'etleeply weigheib tho gravity, at • the straggle i nt e r a e ul a d.r. aboi4 Plue'ge the country, and without haying, Vit .- rated his tei ad that the Cerise ',w,as -nstr that 'motives We're ituticient and that - the- sacrifices Wuieli -ire • 'the country trimake WerasuCh nstatsh ifrurrnigitt conehl er it 'ought to cifiadate. Sir, there lan • • indeed, he. eeseve reesoinewhich cOukt induce e man 11.'0 , had been a party with her Majesty's Government to tit i.c lima o f Iwlicy. -whO 11 U. 1 ae+rist o -I incOmlneting the war, who had, after fullemo„.. W . - 4 M unexampled deliberation, agre ed to entei,upenA lLeer, who, . I eying Concurred after that full end '9'452 ge;ibatetita thecomM ft eneemento the war, had . also l e a %• Pgoll 3, qo, the, country.' foe 'great sacrifices-int - rt .- Or to continue it, . and Nebel:o,4o.lo a very recent Period. essentedt e ail the measures proposed for its continuaricht--I say there Must irdeed bb dravb ran- • sons which could induce a man who had nee; co far party tothe measures of the Government utterly toch'ri el .hisopinion, to .declare this war unnecessary, unjust, impolitic, to eat before thocouutry all the imagi esey asters -with which his fancy could. supply bins, and to msh.,- nirY and exaggerate the force of the enemy and the ditti.- culties of our own position. (Cheers.) Sir, lam not such r a man as that. (H ear, h ear .) 'My right hon. friends my col leagues in the Government are not men of that stamp, and therefore in' answer to my noble friend; to whomnotlitn e , that I have je s t sa id i n the slightest degree applies , I have se state that her Majeety's Government, fullyeconscieus of ti;e great importance of thie contest, frilly conscious of the im „menseexertions which may be necessary to bring it to successful termination, aro prepared to take upoathemselbest the responsibility whichbelongs totheir position, and will not be ,afraid, when Parliament meets again, to render an account of the manner in which that responsibility hes been discharged. (Hear:) We. are conscious also of the generous support which ,this -bonito and the ,country have given to its throughout the exertions which hie leave felt it our duty to make. Whatever may be the opinions of some: few members within thes9 walls--1 do not believe cret gay whatever may be the opinions of seine feet persons out' of the house —because I do not thick the opinions we have . heard here have any echo at all out of doore—(cheerS)---I E ~{ i r i~ ,~~ f ~ am satisfied that the great majority of this house, as proved by the voteshave ivtheyte manly p cometsuit of theonnthesu t b e j o e u ct u ,s r .re y: faithful represent t e t te , e d t e h o t e l t t t r h; c a oie u fi d h e e n c g o i v o e f n t t h o is a T h l y o s G e o v a e n r d n in t h e e n ts whoeverr t o w ho, in the conduct of the great struggle they may be, which wo are .themngge, oft duties which devolve uponto the best heir ability, and in ae cordance with the determined will of the people. My noble friend has made some remarks upon the, operations of the war and in reference to the terms of peace, but it cannot be expected that her Majesty's Government should enter into any explanations either upon one head or upon the other. It would be most unfitting, and would obvi ously tend to defeat the policy of the country, if we were to throw out a sketch of what we thought might be accom plished in the prosecution of the war, and what would be the terms of peace upon which we thought the contest might be terminated with safety to the country. (Hear.) The operations of war must in their nature be dependent upon circumstances that may arise in the prosecution of the war, and it is unnecessary to state to any man that to announce our intentions would be to lay the ground of de feat. The conditions of peace must depend upon the circumstances under which negotiations may be begun, and upon. the success which either party in the war may have obtained at the moment when negotiations are commenced.) (Hear, hear.) There is, however, one point to which my noble friend adverted which calls for some remark. I refer to the opinion which he seems to have entertained that the Turk ' ish Government had no objection to accept the Austrian proposals, but that their opinion was overborne by a con trary decision upon the part of the Governments of England and France. My noble friend must know - far better than I Can what was the personal opinion of the Turkish represen tative at Vienna upon that matter. I can only say that I have no reason whatever to believe or suppose that the Turhisla Government differed in opinion from the Govern ments of England and France as to the necessity of not accepting the proposals to which my noble friend refers. No doubt, if the time should arrive when the Turkish Go vernment might imperatively think that certain conditions were consistent with their future security, their opinion ought to have considerable weight when .the Governments of England and France might bo called upon to discuss the conditions• of peace. At the same time, a remark from the hon. member for Lambeth ought not to be lost sight of —namely, that the objects for which the war was under taken were too wide and important to depend solely upon the decision of the Turkish Government Tho war was un dertnken, not only for the protection of Turkey, but, as the hon. gentleman well observed, as a means to an end. No doubt the protection of Turkey, as a question affecting the balance of power in Europe, was an object for which it was the duty of the other Powers of Europe to contend ; but beyond the protection of Turkey lies the still greater gum.- tion of the grasping ambition of Russia--an ambition which no man has more forcibly or more fully explained than ma noble friend himself, and which aims at the moral and physical subjugation of the continent of Europe, and the extinction of those, principles.of political and commer cia. liberty upon which the, independent existence of the kingdorns . of Europe must mainly depend, (Hear bear.) Therefore. I am not prepared to say that it ought to rest with the Goiernment of trinket , to - 'decide what are the conditions which it would be consistent with' the future .security.and the permanent peace of Europe to accspt, but the. Governments of England and Franca have as great, and perhaps a greater, interest in 'that question than the Government .of Turkey itself. (Hear, hear.) Their enlightened. views on questions of European policy are more likely to be right than oven the views of tho. Turkish Government, but there is no reason., to srippoSe that any difference of opinion is likely to occur. (Hear, hear.) I can only say that, up to the present moment, therehas been, and - r trust 'that it 'tiny continue, a perfect unani mity and concord between. the Governments of England, France, and Turkey. (Hear.). In mentioning the Govern ment of-France, I must express. my entire concurrence in the remarks of my noble friend astto the perfect sincerity, the corlial friendship, and the entire :unity of opinion which preetail between the Governments,-of Englenit and France. (Cheers.) Indeed h upon thisegreet question. the two Governments miry behatit teforn hut one Cahinet some of the members of which are sitting iii London aryl in Paris 'There is a perfect unity of. opinion end a ' perfect unity of purpose, and I cannot but anticipate that the entire union which exists between the twos countries : must in the end accomplish the great - object for which they ..have,.. ,united, (Hear, hear.) My noble friend has called 'attention to the feet that hitherto we have not been os enccessful'as we expected in t arrying into execution the power which Parliament gave us before Christmas of . en tistine foreign troops for the reinforcement of the armies Efiglend and Frenee. My noble friend has-advert , d to the cause of our failure in that respect, and, though I have no desire at present to go back to former debates, I must say that it has been rrainly owing to the unfavourable impression which was produced upon the minds of- men on the continent by the difficulties which were throWn in the way of the' Foreign Enlistment Bill in its progress through the two- Houses of Parliament that the Govern meat have been prevented from carrying out that measure successfully. (Hear. hear.) We are now, however, raising troops under the provisions of that law with greater-ropidity than hitherto, and I trust that before the auttann sets in we shall be able to send consider able reinforcements to our army in the East. (near, hear.) With regard to the great War in which we are engaged. I have nothing more to say, except that her Majesty's Government feels that it is their duty to carry on that war by all the means which Parliament has placed at their disposal; and I trust that when Parliament meets again the manner in which we shall be found to have per formed our duties will insure for us _that confidence which Parlianeent has hitherto so. generously reposed in us. I will now, sir, refer to the other topics to which my noble friend has adverted. My noble friend has called the at tention of the'house to the state of Italy. That is, no doubt, a very painful topic, but my noble friend has ad verted to one bright feature in-it—namely, the conduet'of' the kingdom of Piedmont, and he most justly dilated upon the a.omirable example which. has been set by the 'Kim of Piedmont. (Cheers.) Theicourtie pursued by that king, torn has shown ns that _there is in Italy a people wise enough to know the value of constitutional institutions, and how to work them well when they have obtained them. (Near, hear.) The present position of Piedmeht is unexampled in the history of Europe. We have seen many countries which, after possessing an arbitrary Government, have suddenly obtained representative institutions, but for years and years the want of previous pr;mtice and expe rience has rendered those institutions unavailing for any practical purposes in the' promotion of rational liberty. That has not been the case in. Piedmont. There the people almost appear as though they.had enjoyed for centuries the excellent institutions; which they have only recently obtained. (Hear.) Instead of sacrificing their time in party strife and conflict they have, exhibited the vieour of the earlier periods of constitutional government, and while the people have shown; ulnae the one hand. a Ivis= slow and steadiness of purpose that will dignify them iu . the history of Europe, upon the Otter hand they have had the good .fortune to be ruled by a Sovereign who Pro perly understands and apprecietes the real power and di g nity of hie (Cheers.) . He has respected tee ' ius z litutiene which the country has obtained, and in the 'exeltea position' in which he is placed .her ;basset an ea ample to hiS people which it is impossible to prate:,too highly. -It it only natural that such, people and such Ft. monarch should `view With* painful rinxiety the condition of other parte of Italy, is condition as deOlorehle as rev ii friend 'has described. (Hear) In many" pads of Italy, and especially in the Roman States, events•have occurred .which afford. a'.painful - contrast to what has bees parsing in the kingdom of Sardinia. • (Hear, bear.) Forei g n i n in all countries is fatal to the well-being of the ,people, but foreign iallnence maintained- by arms is still worse thah foreign influence maintained simply by p ,lita aalhrtscendaney. (Ilene) ..trufertunately, ,in Italy both have hail their offset,. (Hoar.) ,In-the kingdom of Naples We see•the ascendancy of a forei e en political influence (for it ie in vain to dis e enise the fact that the influence of ihus .aia is pre iorninentin that kingdoin), and wee See also an example of the' manner in which :the political influenah of 'Russia reigns .supreme in a country separated from the russian empire by large tracts of land. (/leer.) Urine more occasions than one the ,Governineet of Naples have shown their hostility to. England and Franco by Prohibit ing'the exportation of articlee which their neutrality did not warrant them hi prohibiting, and I cam sorry to aeld 'that there have been acts of craeltyanci Oppressioa re cently ceriemitted by that Government which reelly do not belongto the age in which we live (Hear.) On the ether hand, the protection which iu theßerann States is afforacel by the French and Austrian occupation to the Govaariment naturally, perhaps. increases the ability-of -that. Govern ment to commit acts which are not in accordance with the feelings of the people of - this country; hut the house vh.ll, r aria sure, perceive that these arc topics of greatelitliculty delicecy. (Hear.) There cannot at the present mo ment be anythinghlete desirable for. the intereets,of this country than that discussions sliordtl take place in this house, or that any pieldatlingh - should be adopted by her Majesty's Government, which would : 'tend_ to cost Oren shade of cohlne.s.s over the relations existing between this country and France on the one hand, or Austria on the other: Without eniennginto themotivee which lea fothe occupation of Rome, or to the effects of that oCcupetion— cue of which; however, hasheed to insure - trenquillity—l; may taherye that the discipline of the French troope daring , - ;heir occupation of It a ly h as n et b een i m pu gne d, b u t, on the c o _ their c on d uc t h as . b e en mos t exemplary: 'Pith W regard t o th e F renc h occupa ti on, th e h ouse i s proba bly harate that the number of the occupyise troops, instead of having' been increased, has been mteerially recirichdt . The Austrian occupation of TuscanybasaltOgether ceased: Until very ' recently Florence was occupied Van 'Austrian , gnarl-eon, but thet eerrison has been withdrawn and the thaivernment of Tuscnny haft been left tenet tipc4 its ;own, resources. I know a. report - An? ' aug m ented an for in Italy Laviarseebeenetnly'Ph''');na•leenettlihdetMtl.,lll3e, , but,lBloothetobetlieve there any fount;th ion oVerinnent I ttt i V a e rY ' Tier that 3l.aj4 r s e ty po ,s rt o . lhousareod f a r i e v in ed ii , f e e ry rile t t e io ly n:7 , ll , le p h ., i t s a l i y i a h s t t f e t r e t c) ". pTare that althoueli a fehv oafitiAels?Zsl°ta tlr e cji e )° ' only t6l,loeoOn—ninhabletnetienrged.i.tlitei anal replaced an equal niniber of Italian troop; to whom ' the usual:course, leave of absence for a certain ttt p , rod leas, been:given. • I believe; therefore, that the• ec of Austrian troops in Italy has not been increasettlawfter unable to say whether there. has been atyaugmentetiOnaof .3benutrabor nf trovein Ancona or not; but I beli eve th at.. the aggregate nnmlny of men under arms in, the territo r y i$ ncer larger than it has beenfor some time past and •r am persuaded any notion which may preeeih that ,Austria is changing : her policy with regard to . the 'duke; and is pre pving ter thcourse of action in Italy incompatible with' her relations' with England and Frahcat is utterly en .. founded. Whether Austria, at a futtfrettime; Prompted, ,I,Ay regard for hair own interests, may or may not find her sole in a COaditioll to fake the field in =junction with England and France, of one thing I am perfectly satisfied L i a—thht we shall not .see Aur,tria teleathe field against Eng ln,nd and France, and in concert with .Ttu.s.tia. My noble l'fatiend hag said he thinks her hlnkety'S Guyernment ought to take - hi - fi - aril:lgo of eery circumstances whiCh mity from "time to time arise with the view 'of endeavouring—either. through the Governments of France and Austria, or 'without -them, according' to the state of things--to ame liorate-the condition of that fine' couatry which he, has 20 well anti so justly described. It must be painful to every Man to tee a great people—for I must eall the Italians a great people—(hear)—end6wed by nature with the highest,. nuelities.--(cheees)—capable of becoming , as they were in t formee times, 'medal's in everything that elevates and digni fies°f their te human nature, debarred by the accidentaleircumstences political condition from puitsuing a career which wouket el them as a great nation is the estimation of the eth el ; It must, therefore, be the object of every Bri ;eh* artta y u r On—as it was, upon a former Occasiori, the Oh ,27M_lglathori. friend the member ter theUniveasity, weighs 'neon h t Louly to alleviate the pressure which now "'cneiet, real ono rao ltalians, but to open to them 'a noble I 'Which they biro ! b a e anngenial with - the bielr qualities with friers4 nen;tlicanwaxel endowed by nature. .My existe Z io difficult it is t' 41ter a state of ethingeeareht& has y years ;hut I eau assure him and the house that, her r aT an which Goternnient are ani mated by the same feelings fair` and proper h he ha l expreved and thet. they will avail themselves of any. ~y ~ •' F, .• ~', aj ~'r „ E SUN, LONDON; WEDNESDAY EVENING, AUGUST 8 1856., portnnity which may present itself with the view of im proving the condition of the Italian people. It may be in the recollection of many hon. gentlemen that fm long 5..40 se the year 183 M the Five Powers, through their reptes,u tativee at 441 suggest to the R o man Government; certain administrative canges which they thought would have materially improved the condition of the population of the Roman States. These recommendations were made, not only by the representatives of England and France, but by those of Russia, Austria, and Prussia, but, unfortunately, at that time they were not adopted. More recently, however, they were partially carried out,. and were so far acted - upon that a Council of Finance was, I be lieve, established. I am afraid that that Councilof Finance hasremained a powerless body,for although theyhavemade reports and representations, I am not aware that those re ports and representations have led to any advantageous results. It was also recommended, in connection with the appointment of the Council of Finance, that certain pro vincial add popular assemblies should be constituted, and that the elements of representative government should be so far established that the people might be enabled to make their wishes and feelings known to the Government. The great difficulty which has prevented the adoption of these arrangements has been what is called the secularisa tion of the administrative departments, and that difficulty has not been overcome. My noble friend seems to think thatlif the troops were withdrawn the Italian people would themselves establish a form of government whiJh would be mere congenial with their feelings and more conducive to their interests than that which now exists. If such changes could be made with the deliberation and calmness which are calculated to lead to a satisfactory result, I would say, " Let the troops be withdrawn to-morrow, and let the re quisite alterations or improvements be made ;" but, un fortunately, the road from bad government to good go. vernment is not always smooth and easy. There are diffi culties in the way, there are dangers which interpose ; there are sometimes evils to be encountered which almost counterbalance the good that is seen in the distance ; and I am afraid that, unless arrangements were previously made, and unless the way was carefully prepared before. hand, the sudden introduction of such changes as my noble friend suggests might lead to inconveniences and disturb ances which no man, I am persuaded, would be more anxious than himself to avoid. I think, however, I can so far answer for the Government of France—and certainly I can answer fully for the Government of England—as to say that their attention has not been withdrawn from this interesting subject, and that we shall be most anxious to avail ourselves of any opportunity which may present it self in order to promote those benevolent objects to which my noble friend has directed the attention of the house. I am not aware that there is any other topic to which it is necessary for me to refer. I have stated the deep sense of responsibility entertained by her Majesty's Government, our determination to do our best that such responsibility may fall lightly on us, and our consciousness that we shall have to render a strict account to Parliament when it again assembles; and I will only add that I liope and trust that account will be satisfactory to Parliament and , to the country. (Cheers.) COMPARISON OF ESTIMATE FOR 1854.55, WITH ACTUAL RESULT OP 185'2 53. lAnd revenue Customs Salt • Opium Tobacco (abolished, 1853) Post- )ffice Stamp 3 ., Mint Marine and pilotage Judicial fees and fines Revenue of Strait settlements Mr. HENLEY deprtcated the course pursued by the noble lord the member for the city of London ; it was calculated to do much harm, and could not be produc tive of any beneficial results. Ho bad on a previous occasion opened up the whole nationalities of Poland and Hungary, and he supposed the present was a sequel to that. (Hear. hear.) Lord J. RUSSELL believed he bad not said one word with respect to Hungary, but had only referred to Poland. . _ lacrosse Revenue of Coorg .... Revenue of Nagpore Revenue of Pegu, &c Sale of presents Interest on arrears Miscellaneous 2. Other Receipts : Proceeds of estates admini stered • by late Reg,istrar- General ......... . .................. Proceeds of assets of late Go• vernment of the Punjaub Gain by exchanges Mr. HENLEY then went on at some length to decry the c"urse pursued by the noble lord the member for the city of London, expressing his regret that the matter had b.-en hroucht forward, and it was in fact ()Ay throw- Ina on', the apple of discord for no real ostensible object. Th 3 Appropriation Bill was then read a third. time and passer). PUBLIC HEALTH (No. 2) BILL. This bill, on the motion of Sir B. HALL, pwsed thr6ugh all it 3 stageg. and was read a third time anil passed. CHARITABLE TRUSTS BILL. The house then went into committee on this bill, re suming at the 224'clause. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL said that as there was so limited a period of time at the disposal of the house that raoming for the full and proper adjustment of the &arise, so as to suit the expreised views of the hon. m.rnhers who had already spoken, he would consent for the present, though he should do so reluctantly, to with draw the clause. (Hear, hear.) The cl two wag accordingly omitted. Clauses 23 to 34, inclusive, were agreed to without opposition. Some further ones having also been adopted without much discussion, it being 10 minute= to 4 o'clock, The house resumed, and the CHAIRMAN reported provresre The house then adjourned until six o'clock. The house resumed at six o'clock. Net decrease of revenue .... Net increase of expenditure DeTreane. 76,473 145,727 443,540 59,215 12,171 63,778 Deterioration of 1854-55 as compared with 1852-53 3,094,770 18,955 14,453 14,570 9,142 Lord PALMERSTON stated, in answer to Mr: Vin cent Scully, that there was no intention to add a batta lion each to the three regiments of Guards. Mr. STAFFORD moved for copies of reports from the different hospitals connected with the army and navy in the Black Sea. and_for copies elf any reports sent home by-S . r J.hn M'Neill, the sanitary commissioner to the army. He justified the disclosures which had been made of the unnecessary sufferings of the army, without which, he said, their sufferings would have been still worse. He quoted extracts from evidence of several staff and regi m?ntal surgeons to show the frightful evils which existed in the army about Christmas last. He quoted, also, the euggestions they made fir an improvement of the sys. tem, end asked the Government whether they had adopted those suggestions. Mr. PEEL, in reply to the statements of the hon nUrable gentleinatilmtereil into some details with re gard to the state of the hospitals in the Crimea, and first he stated that an impartial commission leid been ap pointed to inquire into the condition of the hospitals on the.lBth of June. At present there were few sick or wounded either in the military or civil hospitals, and the reason was that there was little sickness in the artily. They had, however, made great provision for emergen cies, and he hoped they would always continue to be beforehand with these 'contingencies. He hoped and be lieved Sebastopol would fall this summer ; but the Go vernment did not trust too much to that, but had made provision for the army to winter again in the Crimea. With respe-t to the military medical department, he stated that it was intended to appoint a head over every separate department, such as the purveyor's branch, the ,pothecary s, &c., and that over all a military medical e iief should be placed. With regard to the motion, he had no objection to give the ordinary medical reports asked for. '484 381,413 216,759 14,993 8,608 1,333 10,824 11,261 91,625 The, motion, amended in some -of its point?, was then acceded to. 826,449 1,052,694 229,245 2,868,525 THE INDIAN BUDGET. Me. IT. SLITS. moved that the papers and accounts which had boon.presentA to the:house during the present 14PS irin in relaticin 6 India, be reforrod to a committee of the whole house. EXPENDITURE. Expenditure. Increase. Decrease. 1. Payments in Realisation of Revenue: £ £ Charges of collection, dm. 438,518 Allowances out of revenue by treaty ...... . 24,833 Sinking fund—Tarjore Allowance to village officers, Enamdars, &c. 19,682 Charges ofcollection—Nogpore 206,098 Chargesofcollection—Pegn.&c 203,733 Payments to claimants oil Re gistra.r-General 7,031 2. Charges in India : Civil and political Judicial and police Public works, buildings, &c 969,024 Military 918,986 Marine, Indian navy, &c. Charges of Straits settlements 3,972 Mint Interest on debt 3. Charges in England': Dividends onEast India Stock Interest on home debt Steam communication with India Ditto for extended communi cation to her Majesty's Go vernment Transport of troops and stores 51,699 Furlough and retired military pay 62,418 Ditto marino ditto Fier Majesty's troops in India 46,203 Retiring pensions, &c., of her Majesty's troops Charges—general (home esta blishment, &c.) Absentee allowances to civil servants Annuities of Madras Civil Ser vice Fund Retiring pay—St. Helena esta bliqnnent Establishment in China Expense of transportation of 4,217 412,282 5,736 26,003 The motion having been agreed to, the house woit into eommittee. 51,917 35,000 Mr. V. SMITH proceeded to say that the lateness of the period at which he rose to make the usual statement was not owing to any no willingness on hisown part to makeit earlier, or:to any want of industry in the department over which ho presided, but to the pressure - of other business, and to the unwillirgricss of the Opposition to postpone their criticisms on the 'conduct of the Governtnpnt in -relation to other matters.' A pledge was given by, his pre&cossor that the accounts should ho presented ninth earlier, but owing to the causes to which he referred he feared that it would neither be in his (Mr. V. Smith's) power norm that of any one who might succeed him to redeem that pledge. A great deal of misapprehension had arisen from the applica tion of a misnomer to the statement ho was about to wakp. It had been nailed a budget ; but, unlike the statement to which that term was usually applied, it had reference only 'to the finances of past years, and that must continue to be the case; unless the House of Commons were 'prepared. to rescind the whole constitution 'of India. and to assume the direction of affairs which Was now leftin the hands of the Cou , -t of Directors and the‘Board of control. At the same time he was far from denying that it was desirable that the accounts should be produced at an earlier period of the session. He observed that the hon. member for Manchester had placed on the books a notic.- that he intended to move that the accounts should in future be made up to the end of October, instead of the end of April. Ho believed that could no be done without a cona pieta derangem en tof the accounts of Indian as they were at present settled. hear, from Mu. Bright.) Such an alteration would tend to confuse the ac connts, Which were kept on a sptern.of double entry. His predecessor had told the house that ha was endeavouring to accelerate the transmission of the accounts from India. This had; in fact," been done; and the accounts now' extended only two years back. On this subject ho might refer to a despatch which had been sent to India with the concur rence of, the Court of ,Directorsi calling for the transmis sionof th 6 accounts titan earlier period. The. effect of this despatch was that the Government might be enabled next April to present accounts extending up to April, 1835. On the other hand, if the hon. gentleman's proposal were car ribd out,-theeffect Wotild be to renieve them months backward instead of forward ; for ho did not believe it to be possible that accounts made up to October, 1855, could be sent home in. Ilium for' prentation in ~ April, 1856. 'Now, following the example of 'his-predecessor, he should proceed to present to . the house a statement of Indian -finances , ftir the years 1852.3. The right hon. gentleman then proceeded to read the following accounts 15,000 45,457 6,823 3,101 nfDiAN FlN'ANcr.'-1552.53. £ convicts Arms to her Majesty's troops going to India Invoice of stores 6,240 87,334 1,355 15,558 £ £ ;4/tot .I. Bengal— Net rev enue 8.158,809 Local' obarge 2,037,561 L )eal surplus 6;121,248 • Mirth'lllresteru ProvinCes— Revenue ... 5,636,369 Local charges-1,362,030 5 'Local surplug • 1,274,339 MiTty. charges of Bengal And North- Westn. Provinces 5,G07,866 Net revenue of ditto`,.. Chat, es of ditto 9,C07457 Surplus avail- , able for g enera l purposes of In dia ... . ........ — -4,787,721 Ir. aarirar— .. Net revenue-- • 3 ,7 2 7, 536 Changes'. ....... Surplus avail ablo for general purposss of In; di, 111. Bombay— - Net revenue — Charges. — 2,941,128 Deficit Total revenues of the soveral Presidencies Total charges of ditto Tot'sl surplus or ---- 278287565 458,9'..-.8 ditto Interitst on Iu- nation had been very diaieult, and expressly :with a,view to eliciting talent on the one hand, and moral dian debt Charges defray ed in England Total charges 011 Indian rove dues. • Surplus cf in come. over . ex.- .Penditure,,;,.; as to - 20,:251,279 - - 10,273,5G3 112,9C3 that plan qualities on the 0 4 ,.11 ar. He regretted that viva 1: ,- )e-e examination was not adopted, as it was calculated to elicit the moral qualities. (Hear.) Ninety of the candidates could write in Latin, 85 in Greek, 63 in French ; 58 were examined in moral science, and upwards of 100 passed creditably in English and English history. It was a very pleasing subject to contemplate so large a number of young men of talent taking such pains, and with such success, to qualify themselves for the civil service of the country. It was proposed to establish a new system of education in India, under a director of public instruction, with 14 di rectors under him, regulating the three presidencies. Lord Dalhousie stated that this system was now in full opera tion. The right hon. gentleman then adverted to the navi gation of the Godavery, which he said was of great import ance, and as to which the Government were making every exertion ; and there would be every disposition to make equal exertions in similar cases of other rivers. Having now gone through all the various topics of finance and po litics, the right bon. gentleman add he should advert to the petition from Madras, which adverted to the old-disputed question of the government of India. Into that great ques tion he could not then, however, enter. He was favour able to the principle of" double government;" and although he bad for many years devoted his attention to Indian affairs, be fully felt the value of the co-operation of the Court of Directors. Nor did be believe that any one occupying ;pis office would be likely to lean too much upon them, while he would find their aid invaluable. No doubt there were anomalies and absurdities in the present system; but these we re sneall objections to the system, and of no practical con sequence, On the other hand, great practical advantage re sulted from it. For instance, in the selection of a Governor for India, how immense was the responsibility. It waaone of the most difficult selections to be made. An able man might be selected, who yet might be intoxicated with power, and commit extravagances. In such a selection it was important to have tho sanction of such a body as the Court of Directors. Under their auspices the selection of Lord Canning was, he believed, most for tunate. The power of the Governor-General was nearly absolute ; but his noble friend was not a man to be led away by it into any schemes of conquest. His noble friend would rather endeavour to develops the resources of India, and would recollect that the illustrious name he bore was associated with rational liberty and with the principles and institutions; of a free people. (Cheers.) A resolution having been proposed pro forma Mr. BRIGHT said , giving credit to the right hon. gen tleman for the desire to do good in his office (and he had not been in it long enough to do harm), yet there was great reason to complain that the subject should be brought for ward at such a period of the session when no one was pre sent. And if the right hon. gentleman was in office next year (if it was not too much to suppose it) next to the question of,peace and war, there was no subject of such importance as that of Indian finance. (Hear.) It was not an Indian, but an English question. The late Sir R. Peel had said most truly that any embarrassments in Indian finance would tell upon English finance. 'And, in point of fact, the debts of India were really the debts of this coun try. The statement of the right hon. gentleman was far from favourable, and far more so than the facts warranted. For he (Mr. Bright) believed that the future had in store for us in Indian finance very great troubles. He disputed the statements of the right hon. gentleman, and hel'eved that Indian finance was extremely confused. In Oct.. 1853, the cash bOlances had fallen from 17,000,0001. to 13,000,0001. That was the time chosen for conversion of the Five per Cent. Stock, 24,0'0 0001. in amount. In the year the Cash balances fell down to 7,500,000/. The Government, finding themselves falling into the abpss of bankruptcy, projected a new loan of 5 per cent., with a guarantee of 15 years. He suspected that dishonest means had been ' resorted to in 1853 to keep up false balances, and bolster up credit. In 1853 the enormous balances acted certainly as a deception, and proved merely temporary. The tune question as to the conversion of stock, was as to the value of money at the time. But it was believed in India that the balances were actually lying idle and un appropriated, so that the effect of their being found miss ing would not be to diminish the resources of the Govern ment ; in short, that there was a large surplus revenue of several millions.—,(Mr. Mangles denied this.)—lf the hon.' member denied this, he could prove it from the pages of the Friend of India, edited by Mr. Marshman. (Thehon. member quoted from it the expression, "plethora of riches," being the most remarkable.) This was in May, 1853; and the impression evidently was that there was plenty of money—" a belince of 16,009,0001. in the Tree snry" helve distinctly stated. (Hear.) The false impression was most improperly created that the 16,000,0001. was a dispeseble surplus. If the Government were parties to it they were most blameable. He would ask the Presi dent of the Board of C tntrol to observe that from June, 1853, to April, 1855, the balance in the Indian Exche quer hid fallen not less than 10.000,0001. sterling. On the 90th December, 1854, a letter was addressed to the Government of India to the effect that in the event of a lean being required for public works in India, " our consent"—that was to say the consent of the Court of Directors and the Boer' of Control—must first be obtained thereto. Bat that regulation had been set aside by Lord Dalhousie. A loan had been since contracted without any reference whatever to the Court of Directors and the Board of Control, and on the announcement of that loan the value of Indian Stock fell not less than 16 per cent. The loan of which he spoke was called a public works loan, to make it appear in this country as if it were to be devoted to public works in India; but be was afraid that it was not entitled to that name, for no facts whatever had been adduced to justify its being so described; and whereas the statement made by Sir C. Wood, when President of the Board of Control was, that the expenditure for public works in India for the last five years amounted to 3,152,0001., according to Mr. Grant the expenditure was upwards of 9,000,0001., being a difference between the two statements of 6,090.000'. The fact was that the construction of civil and military buildings had been treated as public works, which was an utter absurdity, for such works were not publieworke in the proper accepta ti; n of the term. To call this loan a public works loan was altogether a delusion ; and if the Government got a six pence of the money from anybody in India who fancied that it was to be laid out 'upon reproductive objects, he (Mr. Bright) begged to say that they would be obtaining that sixpence under false pretences. The truth was that we wanted a radical reform in the whole matter of Indian finance; in the mode in which the accounts were kept, and in the mode in which, and the time when, they were placed before the house and the English public. If there was cue thing more than another which it was the interest of the Government to do, it was to have no secresy respect ing their finance. (Hear.) If the Government of India had regard to its own interests alone it would abolish this sys tem of secrecy ; and the bringing up in 1855 estimates of money which had been spent in 1853. ,The hon. gentleman read a letter signed by the chairman of the Madras Chamber of Commerce, recommending regular periodical publications of the public accounts of India, and deprecating any secrecy upon so important a subject. He asked why. with a revenue of 30,009,C00/., they ought not to have a Chancellor of the Exchequer for India instead of the present system by which there was a kind of divided authority between three or four individuals, whose state ments as to the accounts of Inds were better calculated to mystify than to explain matters. He must urge the com mittee to accept the resolution which he had placed before them. The right hon. gentleman uttered a fine penegyeic upon the new Governor-General of India. He (Mr. B.) was not going to detract from the merits of Lord Can ning. He always judged the noble lord as being a man full of good intentions, laborious, and generally well qua lified for the performance of the duties he undertakes. He would, however, tell him that the question of the finances of India was at the bottom of the prosperity of India. If the country were governed by ordinary economy and ordinary prudence there ought to be a surplus revenue. The fact, however, was, that at the present moment there was a heavy debt against India. He would advise Lord Canning to keep clear of getting into hostilities, and to avoid the example of Lord Dalhousie, who plunged the country into a war upon the most flimsy and ridiculous pretext. He did not want then to go into the opium or the salt question; but he had ascertained from a gentleman who had recently arrived in this country that the opium trade had occasioned the most fearful results in China. As to salt, he said a taxation based upon a principle so econo mically wrong and hideously cruel, must he bad, and ought to be put an end to by the Government. In reference to the cruelties practised in Inglis, he appealed to the committee whether the inquiry that had taken place had not borne prac tice s th t e ate m m i e s n t ts fr w ig h h i t e f h had been al enormitiesn madea in that th s tato quarter uarte;; although the hon. member for Honiton (Sir J. W. Hogg) and the member for Guildford (Mr. Mangles) hail endea voured to cast ridicule upon his hon. friend the member for Poole (Mr. D. Seymour), when he rose in that house to t expose the system of cruelty and oppression. He was anxious that England and England's Parliament should spread a brighter picture of India before the world than they had as yet done. He believed that by a complete change of system, India would attain a position of the highest eminence and prosperity; and that the Govern ment that would carry out such a change would achieve for themselves an imperishable renown. (Hear, hear.) Sir J. W. HOGG said the hon. member for Manchester never referred to Indian affairs that he did not attack, not only the conduct,.but also the motives of those who took part in the Government of India. The hon. gentleman had referred to his (Sir J. W. Hogg) holding office anti reaping large revenues from India. Bat he should say what he made he made by his own industry and ability. He had not a single friend when he landed on the banks of the Ganges.. Yet he worked his way with industry and perse verance ; and when he took office finally he took it for the ease it afforded, though in doing so he sacrificed much of his emolument. (Hear, hoar.) He admitted in the broadest manner that cases of torture were to be found in India. In Madras, with a popnlation of 22,000,000, after the issue of a proclamation by the government for information on the subject, 384 applications were made of a personal character and 425 of a written character—not ao great a number after all, considering a population of 22,000,000. The finding of the commission admitted that personal violence was prac tised by officials in the collection of revenue, and in police cases ; but it also added that they (the commissioners) were bound to state their opinion that the practice had of late years been decreasing, as well in amount of suffering as in extent. Ho would now approach the subject of finance relative to which the hon. member for Manchester was somewhat more tranquil. He (Sir J. Hogg) was certainly not as expert in the arcane of figures as the hon. gentleman ; still he had made no allegation against the Court of Directors which he was not able to refute; though it must be acknowledged it was rather difficult to follow the hon. gentleman throngh out his statement, for he kept quotin g everywhere, right and left, first from the hon. gentleman the President of the Board of Control, and then from the Friend of India; culling from each according as it suited his purpose. The hon. gentleman commenced his statement relative to this Part of the subject by pointing to the largeness of the balances retained in the Indian treasury, and to the ex treme variation which they underwent. Now he (Sir J.H.) was sorry to be obliged to admit that to carry on the ma chinery of the government of India it was indispensable that there should be, in the different treasuries spread through out India, balances to the amount of between 9,000,0001. and 10,000,000/. sterling, which lie there, he-readily allo ved, perfectly unproductive. That necessity arose, in great mea sure, on account of the enormous payments that had to be made, the difficulty of transport throughout such an im mense extent of territory, and from all the payments having to be made in silver. He believed, however, that the clay was not far distant when the requisite balances would not amountto more than 4,000,000/., and that would be wh e n India enjoyed th e advantage of railway communica tion exptlhaeineTinngeereealitYmoeafsumrei,ntthaeinfiancgt such l i a r so rge greatly varying. And now for the matter of the loan, which he certainly was prepared to defend. The hon gen tleman the President of the Board of Control had, however, declared that night that it was not his duty to defend the loan. Now, he (Sir J. Hogg) would tell him that it was his ditty to defend the Governor-General of India if he was in the right, and it was his duty to denounce him if he was in the wrong. Now, at was the .state of the Four per Cents, at the time of the loan ? 'that time tho Four ;,133,716 2,011,971 2,697,485 5,401 Total 3,367,480 493,650 Net increase 2,861,530 Note— Excess of income over expen diture, 1852-53 424,257 Excess of expenditure over in come, 1851-55 ..2,670,518 _ _ _ . _ 3,091,775 He Was aware that the deficiency was somewhat large, but it chiefly arose from a cause with respect to which the peo ple of this country' could not find fault, viz , the large amount, expen,led upon public works. He did not think that the House of Commons could complain of tbis expen diture, for no subject had been more frequently and perti naciously pressed than the necessity for the undertaking of those works. His right hon. friend (Sir C. Wood) in bringing this subject before the house last year, bad, while he lamented the deficiency which then appeared, frankly confessed that he had but little hepe of its being made good. Ho (idr. V. Smith) wished to deal with the com mittee as openly as his right hon. friend, and he would therefore advert briefly to some of the items seriatim. The first subject for consideration was the question 'of land revenue. Now, it would be impossible to increase the amount raised from that source of revenue by in creasieg_ the tax ; ,that was admitted on all hands ; but it was hoped that by following the contrary system, viz., by lowering the rate ' a larger gross return might be ob tained... This was not a crude notion of his own. A re port bad been made by Mr. Caulfield on the subject, who, after carefully examining and maturely considering the facts, stated that by decreasing the rate much land at present unoccupied would be brought into cultivation, and the gross revenue from this head increased. By this means a twofold object would bo gained—the relief of the tax payers and the increase of revenue. The next item was the duty on opium. In this a large decrease was experienced, but that might be expected, as the consumption of that ar ticle was a mere matter of fashion, and as such liable to great fluctuation. It might be hoped that when the present troubles . in China were at an end the revenue from this source would rise to its old level. With regard to the next . item, the revenue from salt, under that head a slight in crease was exhibited. He might mention' to the committee that an endeavour had been made to place the collection of this br)nch of. revenue upon a better footing, bnt some little difficulty had been found in the matter. In the cus toms th4e had been a small falling-off. He was inclined to think that it would be for the advantage of India if ex port duties were abolished, if that could be done with out injury to the revenue. Various schemes hactbeen laid before them, and one of the substitutes proposed was an addition to the tax on salt—a proposal which of course he could not agree to. It was difficult to carry out free-trade principles in regard to this point, in a country in which no such substitute could be found for them like the income tax in this country. It would be dangerous, in his opinion, to try other experiments in India at present. Though there bad been a falling, off in the whole revenue of India, he did not entertain the least fear with regard to it, as he thought the re' venue would rather go on to increase than diminish nftet the public works for developing the resources of the country 'were.coinpleted. Si WILLOUGHBY wished to knowthetotal amount of the revenue of last year. Me. V. SMITH said it was . 20,337,27 H. Let them look at the expenditure. The great item in the expenditure was, of courasa the army. He believed no one would pro pose to reduce the army at the present moment. It was something to say that they had an army in India of 3205P0, upon whom, if recruiting failed in this country, they coutfl rely, and it comprehended a cavalry, the irregular horse, who might be of great use at the Capo and in the-Crimea, •It would not lett wise, therefore, to reduce the Indian army. The expenditure for public works was not made till it was needed, and for that expenditure the House of Commons was responsible. The reduction of the interest on the debt had not been carried out as his right hon. friend anticipated. The reduction had been checked by the loan wli,ich it was found necessary to raise in March last. Fie did not intend t 6 enter into the defence of that loan. All the papers connected with -it had been pro duced, and were before the house. The Court of Direc tors had taken. steps at the commencement of the year to meet the difficulties of a deficiency of funds, and had pre vented an increase of drafts on India.- It would have been unjustifiable if his right hon. friend had done other wise than take advantage of the opportunity to reduce the interest, ofthe debt. His only doubt was whether he had sufficiently appreciated the increased demands arising from public works. Every means had been considered for the reduction of the expenditure. It was worth consider ing whether the cash balance of 8,000.0001. was not too large a ono to be kept in India. The directors and Board ef -Control were not insensible to the necessity for economy, and in a despatch sent out on June 27, 1855, a revision of salaries was recommended. Lord W. Bentinek had . suc ceeded in reducing the expenditure from 3,155,134/. to 927,1671. in two years, but no such reduction c ultl now be made, because the chief part of that reduction had been in the expenditure for the army. The money oxpeaded on public works was not to be considered as lost, but as pro fitably invested. He came now to what he must call the brilliant political prospects of India. " The most perfect , tranquillity and peace prevailed throughout India at pre sent. The Governor-General had entered into a treaty with Ava, and a treaty, a very valuable one, had been entered into with Cabul. By the latter treaty the western frontier would be secured. With regard to Persia, the British Minister had to cope with the diplomacy of Russia, and the exeggerated promises which Russia held out to the Shah a but at present there were no difficulties with that power. They had heard much of Russian influence in every part of the East. By the report of the commissioner of that country, it was gratifying to know that in the countries bordering on Khiva, so far from the Russian army being threatening, it had been reduced by the war in turope, and was unusually weak and inactive. It was ab surd to suppose that the war against Russia in Europe was continued from any fear of her aggression in the East. The Indian'navy was in a state of so great improvement, that his - right hon. friend might soon be able to withdraw itish vessels of war from those seas. Besides the roads and canals that wore in progress, the electric telegraph had been established, and many hundreds of miles of railway completed. These internal improvements had cost a large sum, and he believed if more attention had been paid at first to centralisation of companies and uniformity of ac tion sonic expense would have been saved. But it was too late for that now. The electric telegraph had been completed mainly through the exertions of Dr. Shaugh nessy, and. a Proposal had been submitted by another gen tleman for the establishment of the electric telegraph be tween India and this country by way . of Egypt. His right lion. friend had not been able to prodnce the bill which be had pmtnised on civil and criminal procedure, bat he had been able to introduce a bill for the establishment of a re sident instead of an itinerant judge in the strait settlements. He must not omit the question of justice and police, and, above all, the' commission as to torture. (Hear, hear.) This was a painful topic.' It was impossible to deny that there had existed in Madras Presidency a' practice of ad miuietering.torture for the purpose of compelling payment of taxes or extorting confession of crime. (Hear, hear.) The only consolation was that no European appeared to have been personally implicated in the infliction of such tortures.:. No doubt the European officials were nearly as culpable for overlooking such a system—(hear, hear)—as if they had been concerned in it. (Hear.) And the system Was utterly abhorrent to English feeling. (Hear.) The governor of the presidency had done all in his power to suppress it when it had been brought to light, and had passed an not for the purpose ' and he (Mr. V. Smith) assured the house that it should not be allowed to sleep. bnt that the system should be entirely abolished. (Hear.) With regard to the great question of administrative reform. it bail actually been carried out by an act of Parliament in 1853, enforcing a due regard to merit in the distribution of civil 'appointments. Upon his coming into office he (Mr. T. Smith) had taken great pains in appointing a board of examiners. Not less than 113 t andidates were examined, and it appeared that 32 came from Cambridge,. 19 from Oxford, ..14 "frbin Teibity College, Dublin, 15 from the §o.teh universities, Several from the Irish colleges, -and a ::.~; _ _-4,70:1,459 424;457 f3w from the public schools. Of those who obtained ap- per Cent. Loan was at par, and pending the conversion it rents., eight were from Oxford, six from Cambridge, remained at par. Now, it: succe3s was to be considered ai s anairl number from the Irish colleges. The exami- a teet of the vir:;nes of a seilme, there could be 'no doubt aerd t.S C t for the conversion, for t. Now, with refcrenco ,s eminently successi to th; Five per Cent. oan, he ws,uld. gay at once Liao real question was, ought the Government to have foreseen the causes which rendered it nectssary to open such a loan? Well, here were the circumstances Tinder which it was negotiated? In the first place, it was discovered, after an estimate duly sketched, that there would be a deficiency fer the current year in the revenue over the expenditure of nearly 2,000,0001. About May 1, the balances through out India would be reduced to a sum of 8 000,0001., the balances in the Calcutta Treasury being perfectly exhausted, while at the same time the rate of money was so high that the Bank of Bengal was charging 11 per cent. upon the deposit of Government Securi ties. Then the Russian war broke out, which had the effect here of driving Consols down ne ar ly 10 p er cen t., w h i l e thi s ver y loan was at a discount of only 5 per cent. Again, the hon. gentleman was quite right in stating that the G wernment of India had become alarmed, and consequently deemed that some precautions were necessary. Now, in the preced ing six weeks, the Home authorities had drawn upon India bills to the amount of 2,000,0001. sterling. 'Well, with bills drawn upon them to such an extent—with an empty exchequer at Calcutta with a deficiency of 7,000,0001. in the balances, and the rate of exchange rising every day—in presence, also, of the fact, that the demand for public works during the , preceding years exceeded the amount of the loan, while the demand for this year was actually gr ea t er , there also came out to India the despatch containing the order of July, 1854, ' from the Court of Directors, that the Government was to proceed with the public works, and was to meet the ex penditure out of the balances in hand: Well, under such circumstances the Government of India felt that they were necessitated to raise a loan at 5 per cent. without the knowledge or approval of the Court of Directors. That approval, however ; had not since been withheld, and in stead of reprobating the governor and council, the Court of Directors had commended them for what had been done as being the best under , the circumstances. The hon. gentleman the member for Manchester had treated in a most cavalier manner the statements of gentlemen of the highest position, and connected with India. He had spoken thus of Mr. James Bell, of Ur. Doran, who might be said to have occupied the post of a Chancellor of the Exchequer under Lord Ellenborough's administration ; and of Mr. Peacock, a gentleman who formerly occupied one of the most distinguished positions at the English bar. The next question which the hon. gentleman touched upon was the effect of our annexations upon the revenue. Now, in . 1852, the annexation of Pent took place ; and for 1852- 53, the revenue was only 4,6581.; ° for 1853-54, it was 124,116'.; while for 1855 it was 216,7191. With respect to the time of making the Indian financial statement in that house, be could assure the hon. gentleman the member for Manchester that he was as anxious as the hon. gentleman himself that that statement should be made at an early period of the session ; and he should add, that he was as unable as the hon. gentleman to understand why a night might not be devoted at the commencement of the session to the consideration of that most important subject. He pledged himself, that as far as he was concerned, he would do everything in his power to have the Indian accounts brought down to the latest possible moment. (Hoar, hear.) Mr. J. G. PHILLIMORE said he believed that the speech of the hon. baronet who had preceded him con sisted mainly of an attempt to mystify the house in respect to as cruel a case of oppression as had ever been brought under the notice of a deliberative assembly. He confessed, that with regard to the question of the loan, it seemed to him the hon. baronet had succeeded to a considerable ex tent in placing that matter on a more favourable footing ' than that on which it had been left by the hon. member for Manchester.. But ha contended that the statement of the hon. baronet in reference to the tortures inflicted by the police of India on the unfortunate natives was utterly unsatisfactory, and even inexcusable.' The commissioner.; themselves stated that, among the principal- tortures re sorted to in those cases, were the, following :—Twisting ropes around the arms and legs, lifting up by the mous tachios, searing with red:hot irons, placing insects on the most sensitive parts of the body, beating with sticks, and putting pepper in the eyes. These were facts reported by the commissioners, and those were practises of which the hon. baronet thought it sufficient to say that they were exceptional cases. Why of course they were exceptional cases, and could only be exceptio table in the most barbarous and brutal country in the world ; but that was no answer to the charge that they were ever tolerated. (The hon. and learned gentleman here read from the evi dence taken before the commissioners other passages, which went to show that the utmost violence, fraud, and cruelty were practised by the police in India.) Another subject to which he thought it his duty to advert was the continuance of the salt tax, which he could not help regarding as one of the most impolitic and most odious of imposts. He earnestly hoped that the right hon. gentleman the Presi dent of the Board of Control would take the necessary steps for insuring at the earliest possible moment the aboli tion of that tax. He believed also that a reform in the judicial tribunals of India was imperatively demanded. The union of the offices of judge and of revenue collector in the same person was a source of the grossest abuses, and necessarily led to the habit of entrusting to the most incapable hands the discharge of the most difficult and im portant duties. Allusion had been made in the course of that discussion.to the ernbarassed condition of the In dian finance; and upon that subject he should observe that it appeared to him the embarassment in question must be owing in some measure to the number of officials in our Indian possessions who received extravagantly large .salaries. He thought that we were deeply culpable as re garded much of our past conduct in India, but he was willing to hope, from the speech of the right hon. gentle. man that evening, that we were at length about to begin to discharge the long arrears which had accumulated against us in that unhappy country. Mr. OTWAY said he feared that a desire for the an nexation of new territories had of late years been increas ing among 'the members of the Government of India. He believed it would bo found that under the adminis tration of Lord Dalhousie mere territory had been an nexed to our Indian empire than by some five or six of the Governors-General who hail preceded him. There was one remark in the speech of the right honourable gentleman the President of the Board of Con trol which he considered as a most ominous one, because it led him to apprehend that the Governor General had al ready cast his eye on the territory of the King of Oade, with a view to its annexation. He earnestly trusted, how ever, that the right hon. gentleman would give the noble -lord to understand that such a measure, which was opposed to the policy recommended by our greatest Indian states. men, would not meet with his approbation. On the subject of Indian finance generally, and more especially in refer ence to the outlay on public works, he found it very dif ficult, if not impossible, to arrive at any definite conclu sion. Ho understood that the difference between the sum stated by the right honourable baronet the present First Lord of .the Admiralty and that stated by Mr. Grant to have been expended on public works in 'mils amounted to not less than 6,000,0001. Ho not only ob jected to the amount expended upon public works, but to the manner in which it had been laid out.- The pub lic roads made were very few, and the number of rail roads much smaller than they ought to be. The works chosen to be carried out were badly chosen, and there had been especial neglect in the development of water ceermu nication in India. The hon. gentleman the member for Honiton said that the number of letters in answer to the notification of the commissioners was very few, and that there had been no complaints with regard to the conduct of Europeans; whereas the commissioners reported that in the space of three months there had been 959 complaints. The hon. member for Roxburghshire said that the thumb-screw was not used in India ; but there was a mass of testimony to show that the police used that engine of torture to a large extent to extort confessions, and a number of mis sionaries testified to the employment of that torture to compel the ryots to pay their taxes. It was proved beyond doubt that this horrible torture had been resorted to, and with the cognisance of tho European authorities;' and he trusted that it would not again be attempted to contra dict such testimony. In the Madras presidency the prac tice was universal, but it was not confined to that part of India. In Bombay a gross case of torture had occurred, resulting in the death—he might say the murder—of an isilividual ; and in this case the European officer had not ehu'tn that vigilance be ought to have done. He believed if the noble lord the present Governor-General of India only acted up tin the spirit of his speech, he might render illustrious in India a name beloved in Europe as was that of his great father. Mr. HENLEY said the thanks of the country were due to the hon. member for Poole for bringing the subject of tortura,so distinctly before Parliament. Another matter had come most painfully out in the course of the inquiry —namely, that persons in office in India had no know ledge of what was done by persons in their awn employ ment. It was extremely painful to find these matters, which had been stated in the report, treated so lightly' as they had been by the honourable baronet the member for Honiton. The hon. baronet seemed to wish the house to believe that the merchants and commissioners knew nothing of the matter. But this forced the fact on 'the horse that the Government was culpably ignorant. The hon. baronet argued that the surgeons of the gush knew nothingof those cruelties, and that, therefore, there could have been no serious wounds, but this only proved that the Europeans were not aware of what was going on around them. The facts were, however, now known • public opinion was brought to boar on the subject, and doubtless they would be put down. But he (Mr. Henley) thought the governing body of that countrycould not be exempt from blame when such practices existed without being known, or if they were known, perthitted by the government. Sir C. WOOD said that now tne fullest information of the factsin question wasobtained, the government of India would lose no time in putting an end to such a disgraceful state of things as had been disclosed by the exertions of the hon. member for Poole. With respect to the statements of the hon. member for Manchester, it was obvious that they referred to another period as regarded the actual expendi ture on civil works. Ho (Sir C. Wood) stated the average expenditure on civil new works in 1852 at 700,0001. Mr. Grant's statement of expenditure, viz., 1,600,0001. in 1834, offered no discrepancy as to the facts. Mr. BRIGHT said the figures might be made to a.greb, but it would be by including things which werenot strictly public works. Sir C. WOOD said the discrepancy was none, because for Mr. Grant's purpose all money for repairs, as well as for new works, was included. The hon. gentleman said the statement of Indian finance on the subject of the loan made by him (Sir C. Wood) was intended to deceive the house. There was no use in talking of the balances, as they varied. That in April, 1853, was 15,500,000& This gave about 5,500,0001. available for any purpose to which it was requisite to be applied. For four years there had been an annual increasing surplus. For that the Four per Cent. Loan was kept open, and it being obvious that the Fiveper Cent. Loan was unnecessary, it was the duty of the Govern. ment to reduce the 5 per cent. to 4, as it would be unjust to call upon the people of India to pay the difference. After this operation bad been effected a change of circum stances took place, rendering it necessary to raise a Five per cent. Loan for the purposes of the country. The first circumstance he gave his attention to when he accepted the pest of President of the Board of Control was to endea vour to establish friendly relations with the western fron tier of our Indian dominions. He could not too highly praise the conduct of Lord Dalhousie in the war which had been, as it were, forced upon him. That noble lord had acted with so much judgment that ho was enabled to put an end to wars, to obtain large acquisitions of territory, and to lay the foundation of amicable relations with other powers. The successor was well selected, and he augured the 1).34 for the appointment. Mr. WHITESIDE referred to the complaints against the civil tribunals, and he thought it was the duty of the autho rities to look well to that matter. He must refer to one circumstance connected with the government of India— namely, that-though Scotchmen were constantly appointed to high judicial situations in ludia, no instance was on record of an Irishman being selected. Sir C. WOOD said the Crown made the appointments. Mr. WHITESIDE—Then the Crown had acted in an illiberal and an unjust manner towards Irishmen. Mr. MANGLES adhered to his statement that torture ____________________„..._ net3f had been inflicted on natives to obtain evidence, bt i tas to obtain payment of tribute ; and with resP e t t r u e on 0 that had been written to the Court of Di rec— sr ,s. subject, those letters were written long before to„., a b M o ti r t . I member of the court, and therefore he was not ecg ui their existence. ' tbsc out s but too true.' It'was impossible to exculpate.,_,,i tortureSEY , A I w O h U ic It h ti v ie as h so a r d o m t a ) d fl e n l d as t t h a y t e t a h rs e b ste d te t n : olli eryants of the company, and after much personealaluci'tyr. , 7 . ,,, _gation , he came to the conclusion there was s e en , ' 40 0, 1 u xstancling with respect to torture. The revenue 0 " a tiO was very large, and orders were given to collect it, l ' co n i d was the foundation of his suspicion that eon nir3l l3,o 0 the infliction of torture did exist. He thought Il i ,od wen complaints were brought before the tribunge 0' had been too lightly dealt with. He objected t ° r the ' t ployment of ill-paid servants in the collection °' o f r.r venue, and he thought a more careful examinaticn•cilvr p fo a rm i vice, d r . h. a e n v l b l e. e t n h t es h a ic t o t tives ought to take place before admitted into the c l o t 4 uu w ogt h h, L / ences on all sides, and for all to unite to Bilge' - of India.nyitadwwlmorsuitltdedbetkeeyttoeurgthot to adiSloodsisr4 plan of administrative reform in Indian affairs, ° the principle would be app l i edaffa irs at P' to l ndian The series of resolutions on the subjectof , glad to hear ts were put and carried, the s ucce § ,l l o l: t h e lOC The h went into ommissicin on Trusts Bill. f 03 The other ouse orders of the day we re dispose d house adjourned at two o'clock. ___ COUNTRY IifARKETth LIVERPOOL—AUG. 7. te f We bad a better attendance to-day than e ..„ to ' 5 O fair extent of business done, holders subrait i d l, per 4 duction of about 2d per bushel on wheat en, c0 03'. 0 4 on Spanish flour. Indian corn in favour, se° 710 ,3 ! 1 . 4' ness done at is to is Gd per qr advance, No be', to yellow being worth 40s per 4801bs. c)11114. articles of the grain trade. IPSWICH—AUG. 7. d The anxiety evinced by the growers to sell a n to their remaining stock of wheat caused the B°l'oo P: larger than perhaps it really was, and althotOn o f t o) sales, and would have submitted to a reden_l e s: 3s per qr., the millers were shy in buYingpl ii reduction not much business was transea' n plant, owing to the rain, has not improv e ' 1- ' l l 04 014 PER QUARTER.' Wheat, red (old) 72s to Barley,74Blvgrinding 4 5 ' 4 1 1 Ditto (new) Ditto, white (now) 76s to 786 Peas ... . .............. no , di Ditto (old) Barley, malting 4 1 AVERAGES FOR THE WEEK ENDING ATA.• Wheat Oats — OP Peas /0 330 Barley Beans HULL—Aua. 7. 1 0 der 3 ' 6. , The supply of wheat to-day was only ra ° teg , were free buyers at 3s decline on last week 's e ! , 03 farmers would not give way more than is to V er eiS l3 '), qnently only a limited business resulted. —s t o ----__;\l:;;ottunors,o;ro'h.i.tgac;k.., .. ... 4 ,: 0s yie + I 23 lower. Spring corn in improved demand , ; set ther quieter, but more inquiry for cakes. etaitY, it the market ; feeding rape cakes, of fi l 4 %LOW; ri request. Bones sell as they arr ive at our q ° er e veitso' lauded for a still higher one. Compleletsfr om thi ral of the wheat crop, and of special injury fr om rain of the last 24 hours. blec - 'Jr! s Wheat, English, red 74 to 76 Ditto whito 7B to 80' Dantzic and Konigs berg Pomeranianand Ham- (Peas, grsy and.." 6i Linseed, 'Blac Sea." Ditto Petersburgh Ditt o Riga airi M . anel . ....... Ditto g Ronigsb ed Pm' Memel ........... 11 ,0 8 Lins.e., ie, $1 Ditto fine fo r. Os fol! Ditto inf. for. °°l ojl O 0 "10, Rapeseed.. °a. r Rape cake s j Tares, English."''' l ie mpr D i tto foreig ll ,, ..,; ." 51 , ; Guan0.. .... ! t o 1 0 Bones . .. . ... Bye 'Veal ........... burgh vanish, Holstein, and _ . Friesland 66 to 701 Russian and Odessa (0 to t 5 Oats, English Ditto Danish Ditto Friesland Ditto Russian 2B to 30 Barley, malting Ditto grinding 3l to 34 Beans Ditto foreign Peas, white and yel. 40 to 431 ,40 14 , COURSE OF R3CCHANGE.—x• - "...•"..1P kmsterdam 11 17 Gibraltar •• •• •'' ' ..• • Ditto, three months ll 18 Leghorn •• *** Rotterdam ll 1% Genoa ..•• •':.,•••••,. 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