The Sun. — London, England, 1820-08-15 00:00:00

TOR THE SUN MR. Explut,a—As 1 tun not even a Voting Lazcseq I must beg to decline all Legal 'Dispu tation Niitti-y . our intelligent Correspondent, an OLD one:: I stand forward again, in. the _very 'delicate subject in question, merely to defend the, dilemma, .on the hors of which I had attempted .to fix those whodraw extreme conclasionS from a liberal and popular legal adage. Your Correspondent does me the ,favour, I hope also the justice, to say, that I have written like a tentleman to Lord Jolty RussELL. 1 shall endeavour' to do the same towards A' OLD LAw-vrati but even in that, 1 shall mit claim any merit for adhering to feelings ~w hich birth has impresSed upon my mind from earliest _infancy, and whi t ck, I hope, education and progress through;.life,-have in some measure improved - the demerit would be, were I to write otherreise! I trust, that any former observation to which your Correspondent allildes, was something more than 4 5 specious"—l took up the point, not in an abstract point of view, nor in regard to the abso lute legality of imprisonment antecedent to trial, but as -an illustration of the absurdity of which those afe'guilty, who argue, that as every man is to be : considered as innocent until found guilty, therefore, there ought not' to have been any abridgement or denial, or deprivation of any part of the Ate t "aul n . riahts that may be claimed or exer cised by a Queen Consort, until the issue of the Bill, now before Parliament, shall establish iutio- cence, or The contrary. But Sir, the homely proverb says, that what is sauce .for the goose, is sauce for the gander ! I therefore merely contend thatif the legal adage in question, really and bon% fide forbids any abridgement of her. Majesty's rights, whilst la bouring under heavy charges, then and therefore the same must apply to every other subject in the realm; and therefore on such. reasoning any abridgement of the rights of other individuals, antecedent to conviction, must be as unjust and as illegal as that abridgement of her Majesty's clainia is stated to be. The modern application of the adage is a sweeping one,,withont limitation. I contend that. it must 'have limits, and I submit that your . Cor respondent's legal qualifying of imprisonmentdoes . not contravert my illustration. I argue not agaln3t the legality of hinprisonment, but against that which would make it illegal. Your Corres pondent's, legal objection, I humbly conceive makes against . the Liberals, bUt strenghthens IGNOTUS.. P.S. To bring the debate, if debate it is, into the smallest space possible, I contend merely that the ADAGE has limits ; does your Correspondent say. that it has not.? The.precise point lies in the words " Found Guilty." The oath of the accuser, legalizing imprisonment before Found Guilty, proves inconj testibly that the adage has limits, and that any reasoning grounded upon the error of its extreme application must in the very nature of things be erroneous. PRICE a STOCKS Tills DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK. Baal: qtock 22IX Bank Long Ann... 17 15-16ths 3 pc; Cent. 1ied....... 681 j; 18 3 pertent. Cons 671/1/ India 80nd5. ... 245. 235. - pr. 31 iter.e . 4 pot. tgrits . 86//4 Oniniuht*.f .... 4 1.0/ dis. L 5 ger C,Nary 102 iii I Cons. for Aeivunt67 68 67i • _ lkanivED-1 Dublin, 1 Waterford, .1 HoMind, 1 France. DUE-Q Gottenburgb, 1 Hatuburgh. MOO WATER LONtiON BRIDE TOMORROW. hlareittg; I 'initiutti after •6.—Erening, ; B6 , atinuteS after '6: THE SUN. r itliEle Oil 13 is ICIRE F4LSIIM A lIDEA T • nil') LOISTDON '- - ;.-TURSDAY," AUGUST 15; .1820. We I Teceived 'last night and this morning the of Friday and Saturday last. The following are extracts:—. , : is plots, AUG. - IL—The King , gare a prirate audience yestii , da - rto the Marquess de Carainan, French Ambassador to Vietlita;i His Majesty also ti4nSacted;ltusiness with the "hike 0 -Richelieu'. The King, it is saikl . oWill soon resume i' ''+ his' promenades. 4 , 'the Journal's of Purnpeluna, of the etl instant, state that tbe - thovethents in'Galicia were at an end. The Archbishop of San Jagoi his brother the Count de TOire' Isltisquiz,4eve rat P,i4lates•;andations,,wer6 in one of tlie.Citadels of CO rePorthadteen circulated - at : Madrid of the King harini'heen carried off from Sacidon; 'hitt its falsehood was i:ntheefitely'detected, • • is.LThe KiiiiYesterday transacted business with tbr' Taros Paiquier, lyinistpr forlureigti Affairs, and in the unto';• • • • • • • with the DUke de Richelieu. Aectiling to private Lettcrs frOm Naples of the 426th' ult. the Archbishop of Palermo bad provisionally taken the reins r of CLTerninent in Sicily - And had succeeded in re-establish . mg ,urdcr andtranquillity. " The Florence Gazette states that, in the combat which took place at Palermo :O"i the 17th, several Sicilian Nobles' perished.: Amongst them was, the Prince de CattoliCa. .‘!• The Genoa Gazette says, that tranquillit rwas coMpletdy re-,established at Palermo' oil the 20th silt. thanks to the efforts of the Archbishop. Q FIVE PER CENTS: N . Thursday 7B f. 65c. Friday • '7Bl. 75 c. .'.. -, -DEFERRED STOCK. Thursday. Of the 2Qd March, 1820....92 f. 75 c..... 93 f. —c. IixCIIANGE ON LONDON. Our.lllotith f. 55 c. Three Months " MADRID, JULY 81.,-The Cortes assemble everyday as usual. In the sitting of the e7th • notice was taken of cer tain meqings at Seville which were considered suspiciou. Those meetings took Ouse in the house of D. Blas Ortolaza, who was the President.. The Cortes ordered that the Sieur Ortalaza stiould be conveyed to Murcia or to Carthagena: • 4 .‘ In the sitting of yesterday the . question was agitated res pecting commerce carried on in foreign vessels. The propo sition of the Committee to abolish Hie law of 1778, and to subject. foreign 'vessels to the sane duties as Spanish ships, was rejected, and the question was refe'rred for further exami nation. , • , . "In the sitting of to-day the Curtis were employeeUin a discussion respecting the brigands and factious persons. It was observed, that the evil had been 'exaggerated, lu order to decry the Constitutional system, the same abuses having existed under an absolute Government, without any charge heing therefore made against the administration of it. " It. was proposed to organize an armed force of 5,230 men, divided into 36 companies of Infantry, and 16 of Cavalry, which are to be paid as soldiers, and to act With the latter where their presence may be deemed necessary ; this force to be called the Legion of National Safeguards., This proposition was ordered to be taken into consideration. " AUGSBURG, Auo. s.—Letters frbm Vienna of the 30th ult. say. a Our Funds have fallen considerably, the cause is to be found in the march of a Corps d'Armet to Italy, and in the report generally circulated, that the Court has concluded anew loan of 35,000,000 florins with Messrs. liothsehild.' .‘ VIENNA, Juir 30.—1 t is said that it was in consequence of orders from -the Court, that the Prince eariati, the new Neapolitan Ambassador, quitted this capital. It is known with certainty, that orders hare been sent to , several of our regiments to march immediately into Lombardy and the Venetian territory, where au Army of Observation is to be formed. It is said, that the chief command of this army will be confided to General Frimont, the General-in- Chief of the Army which drove Murat from Naples. " We expect important events. • " The exchange of Couriers between our court and the Archduke Viceroy at Milan is very frequent. "The Austrian Observer of to-day confirms the reconcilia tion of Ali Pacha 'with the Porte. The first intelligence of this event was received here by the way of Corfu. " NAPLES, Jviv 2G.—General Church found the means of embarking and escaping from Sicily., He is arrived in this port, but has nut yet landed. Amongst the victims who perished during the disturbances ;it Palermo, we regret the Prince de la Cattolica, who was killed on the unfortunate, day. of the 17th. " The Duke of Calabria has addressed a Letter - trr General Npe , , announcing to him that the penalty of ,death incurred by the desertion of the soldiers from the Regiment •of Reale Farnese, will be commuted for that of Chains in the first de- glee. The same Corps sent a deputation to the Minister of War, to require that he would'permit Ahem to proceed to the Garrison,for which they were destined: " The projet respecting the organization of the Civic Guard of this Capital, ,has been approved by the Junta, and sanc tioned by his Royal Highness. All the citizens, from 20 years of age to 50,. who have the means of equipping themselves' 'are to form part of it. • • " On the 2-2 d and 23d inst. - all 'the Theatres here were closed, on account of the melancholy events in Sicily. . " Vt ENNA, JULY 31.—1 n consequence of the late events in Naples, it is more than ever believed, that an interview, either at Pest or at Buda, will take place . between our Emperor, the Emperor of Russia, and the King of Prussia, about the middle of September. " It is confirmed, that several regiments of Cavalry and Infantry hare received orders to quit their garrisons; and to proceed to Italy. " NAPLF:I;JUL . Y 24.—The Junta established at Palermo is confirmed, and a general amnesty is proclaimed in favour 'of all thoe who return to obedience to the laws. " A PrOclamation 'of the Prince Vicar General has been published offering a general pardon to' all concerned in the insurrection, if they lay down their arms and subiiiit to the laws. , " VIENNA, AUG. I.—A confidentitil , note is said to hate been addressed by our GovernMent to all the . Cabin,ets of the Germanic Confederation, respecting. the . Rerolulion .at Naples." There. can be but one opinion respecting the Letter 'of THE QUEEN', inserted in our- Paper of yesterday, among all wise . a good one of the grossest libels that ever disgraced - the Public Press, and it is mitch'eo be latl4nied that the real aut h ors of this infamons scroll are shielded under the name.of lIEa MAJEsTY, from,- gm pu nishment which they deserve. It is evident that the worthless, the wicked scribblers, whoever they may be, into whose hands THE QUEEN has un happily fallen, are • anxious to spread confusion over the Empire, and to overthrow the Throne. They are daring Itebels, who would be the first to try THE. QucEn, on' all .the charges brought against her, if they could wield the powers of the State, and found thr4 she had a strong hold over the minds of the People, and whether innocent or guilty, this misguided victim of their hatred of Alnnarchy would consign her to the same fate to which, Rebels of the same ; description in France devoted the unfortunate Lours. SEIZE, • his Con , sort and 'sister. It is impossible that , the in famous Letter, sniperipe „ THE , QU E EN, can be otherwise than deeply injurious to her cause. She has asserted 'her :innocence, demanded t. Arial, and def;ed those whom she styles her ene... mies, and now that- an ;unimpeachable and most honourable Tribunal has been formed, in order to 'inquire. into the truth or falsehood...Of the kh s ar t gs agattst her, SI-I. , cl,..eciares that She.shilk abjure its gUrNt At 9 that no proofs of guilt could be brought against her, she would readily accord with a decision in her favour, and not only admit the autho rity of her Judges, but applaud them for their regard to truth and justice.—She there fore gives the reflecting part of the world rea son to draw an inference against her, and to suppose that she is appreherisive that the evi dence of her guilt may be too strong to allow of the - possibility of doubt.—We observed, yester day,, that if she were brought to the Bar of the Old Bailey, and her fate depended pa thy ver- diet of a common Jury, oil acquittal would not be solonourable to he - e character as an acquittal by the high, enlightened, and unimpeachable Characters who are to hear andio determine on the truth or falsehood of the Charges against her. Without insulting those of our Countrymen who might form an ordinary Jury, by the supposition that they might be bribed into a decision in her favour, it may well be supposed ,that they. might, take a. narrow' view of the case, , and be under the bias of those feelings which lead to a degree*of lenity inconsistent with the call of truth and the demand of national justice.—To recur to the libellous, atrocious, and infamous scroll to which her MAJESTY has un fortunately been induced to affix her signature; it is evident that her Scribes have taken advantage of a temper which appears to be too vindictive, that they have probably inflamed her passions, or con sidering her as guilty, and consequently antici pating condemnation, and a revulsion of the tide of public feeling in favour of truth, justice, mo rality, and common decency, are anxious to avert every species of trial, conscious that the result would be the same in the estimation of mankind. They endeavour therefore to keep alive the radical spirit in hopes to create a Revolution, and rise into power amidstthe universal ruin. Such and such only must be the inference deduced from the conduct which these wicked Advisers of HER MAJESTY have induced her to adopt, but we trust that there is such a fund of good sense in the minds of our Countrymen, as will enable them to detect the-vile artifice which has entrapped the deluded QUEEN, and Induce them to rally round the Throne, and secure - the Constitution. The Letter of Lord DEERIIIIRST, which we have copied this day from a Worcester Paper, holds forth that conduct which entitles him to the esteem of the Country at large, as well as of his immediate Constituents: It breathes a,mat4, just,. and dignified spirit, and becomes. his rank in private life, as well as his duty as a Legisla tor. His conduct may well be opposed tothatof Lord J.. RUSSELL, who has endeavoured to avert an inquiry in which truth, justice, the honour of the Throne and of the Country, are essentially con cerned, though the proceedings are now ,too far advanced to admit .of recession in any of the Parties. On the contrary, Lord DEERHURS'i, convinced that the inquiry must proceed, and feeling, that as one. of the future Judges he ought not totake part in any measures tending to pre judge the ease, has wisely and honourably de clined to act with a portion of his Constituents, though Ave doubt not that he will receive the approbation Of a large majority 'Of them.• Iri . . justice. to. Lord JOHN RUSSELL, however, we ought to obserVe that it is highly' probable, iC he had the - outrageOUS, insulting, and most . • .•• sca ndalous Letter to which, her MAJE S TY has been so shamefully induced to annex her name, h e would have' disdained to interfere have left her at once to the justice ,of the Country. By the Duke of Kent pack - et arrived at Fat- . mouth from Lisbon, we learn, that though the. the Portuguese ,has reached an height, tP ,no popular commotions had ta aciii i cr e °m n ilin p teg l il ace.' All ranks were impatiently look ing for this return of. Marshal BEitESFORD froth Aio Janeiro, in the hope that he would bring di rections for ameliorating the political condition, of the people, .and thus obviate the necessity of resorting to measures similar to those pursued in Spain.—(lllorning, Paper.) The. County of, Middlesex Address to the QUEE N was presented to her MAJ EsTy this day, by Mr. .PETER . c Moo RE, accompanied. by Mr. Sheriff PARKINS anti a numerous cavalcade. 'rhe procession was very numerous. The City part of it joined at Bridge-street, Blackfriars, hnd the Westminster part of ' it at Hyde Park-corner ; from thence they proceeded in a body to Bran denburgh House. Peers are 'Growding to town from all parts, Scorn the Oontinfmt ,as well, as Scotland and Tre, the - Matrorgis will be . xnpre fut 9 1 - *?. 7 bility and Gentil memory of man. • SHIP NEWS. DEAL ) A L'G. ft—Caine down from the Rivei l the Midas, Watson, for Van Dieman's Land wad . Neiy South Wales, and remains in the Ektvra s t t with: Ike .Severn frigate. AR an It or, weigik g k kikcw.,.l qr., tnarked on thiti,toN 'o.s' Albin Itas 4 been pick' up -iu the DOwnyand .-n-tea here. PORTSMOUTH, Au G. 14.—Sailed the Rojra Sovereign, Royal George, and Regent yachts, asd his Majesty's ships Liffey / Hind, and Gamed lion, all to the Eastward. FALMOUTH, AUG. 12.—Arrived the Hope/ . Stickins, from Poole for Newfoundland, With her pumps choaked. 1 i THE ARMY. ROYAL EDINBURGH VOLUNTEERS. EDINBURGIL, AUG. 8, 1820, 7 -The Lord .1.410 4 tenant observing with sincere satisfaction, frOal the General Order of his Excellency Sir TO OS. BRADFORD, that -the regiment has fully supporte 4 its former high reputation for steadiness and Ws- . cipline, is anxious that it. should also regain its former effective strength, which, in, case of 'ally 'duty of fatigute or long continuance, would ren der such - duty - less troublesome to each individktal in • the regiment. • Ile has, therefore, ordered the book to, be arraiq ra • opened for enrolment, and he confidently trusts . ' that tha, young men of the city and suburbs. will avail themselves of this season of, ,Comparative leisure • to enter into a corps, whose numbers ati-4-: discipline . have reflected so much credit on itk members, and on the -capital of Scotland,and be,f_tti„ productive of so much public gOod, • In order to save gentlemen the trouble of - calk' ing at the Council Chamber. to enrol themselvOl they may. do sa by sending. a note, with - .their, name, profession, and address, to _lir, Todd; :el! Adjutant, No, 4, Nicolsou-sqUare,; and the 140. 5 . will, then be sent round to then] to subscrilie! The days and hours of drill will:be made Conve' nient for each recruit. The .uniform of the regiment is furnished a t prime cost, out , of the regimental. store. - .By order of the Lord Lieutenant. GEORGE TODD, Jup. Adjut. R. E. V. • • The • regular Militia of' this County assembled at Marlborough on the 10th of July last to 1 * trained and exercised for 28 days, agreeably t ° , the orders of the Earl of Pembroke, the Lorc l . Lieutenant of the County. - This was the first a 5 ". sernbly•of the regiment, at the monthly exercise, during the last 28 years, on account of its service during the two last wars in almost all partsof Ens gland, and in Scotland and Ireland.—On Thur, s : day the 3d inst. the Lord Lieutenant inspecteo the' regiment on the downs near Marlborough l the three Field-Officers, viz.'Colonel the Earl 0 ; Ailesbury, Lieutenant-Colonel Major Astley...(one of the Membe r s f or tb is . County), were present. His L or d s hip was m uc . ' gratified with the fine appearance of the rest' meat, their very orderly conduct, and attentiO to military 'duty during .the 'time they had bee ) ; under arms. On the following Saturday completed their appointed time for training, t i ! e men-.were dismissed, and they returned to their: respective homes.-o:alisbz4r,y and Winatester • Journal, Aug.. 14.) 1 . . His Royal Highness the Duke of CAtruntriG f a i it is reported, is to be the con fi dential bearer t his MAJEsTY's sentiments respecting the prese P f disturbed state of Italy to the Emperor ° AUSTRIA. < , Yekcrday the Duchess of GLOUCESTER < O3 Princess SOPHIA visited the Princess AilGusl'; The Princess AUGUSTA accompanied the Daches of G-LoucEszEit todinner. Yesterday several of the Nobility paid visits of condolence at York-house. • Yesterday the Duke of YORK. eft York-bo i l at ten o'clock, for Oatlands, and returned g seven in the evening. Yesterday evening, at seven o'clock., tke Pu ke of CLARENCE left Oatlands. Yesterday the Duchess of SAXE WIEMAR/ companied by the. Duchess of CLARENCE, ViSit7s the Duchess of GLOUCESTER and the Prie ce he AUGUSTA, at Gloucester-house; and a lso .e Princess SOPHIA at Cambridge-house, to t 8 1:), leave previous to her Highness's leaving, Englaa left YeSterday. Prince CHARLES of . L EI NINGEN cic., the King's Palace, Kensington,about two o' c.°- e , attended -by Captain•CoNßoy,' to pay h is 1 ,.. 0 0 spects to the KING at the Stud house, Court Park:" • ' • `v s, 'Fridaytount ITTERBURGII(SOiI of GT.i.ST , ' t o f the Ex-King of Sweden), who is on a tour ,1114 a part of ngland, Wales, and Ireland, arriferct, at Portsnuitith to inspect the 'arS'enal, dock-9a, Sze. The ,Count visited the Queen Charl°tt 1;1.5 and . was received with fhe honours due t° o n Royal rank. He went to the Isle of Wig ht . Saturday morning. • ''• st MT. BROUGHAM left the'Circuit at N-`" -a O .00 fit? on Thursday, and arrived at trough 3" • Friday morning, on his way to•town • Mr. rbe . - DAL Set . out early the next 'daV, and has, ive,... e d, lieve, reached town.. _,Mr. W ILLISms has arri_ l ,, a ., rfl orn e ''' ra t or will arrive in the course 'Of this When they left the eirCuit; it was the g e l a n. expectation that they . would join it again a t caster, where the Assizeibegin on the 3c l in (Morning Chronicle.) .. he SHEERNESS, 5 p. sir. Sunday Evenitg % River Pioneer schooner is now passing up tr!est Thames, with - a cargo of witnesses agailiceifed QUEEN, from the Continent, which sh J,eb 'Sig F from :a foreiin man of war' in the . N"" she will land them at DePtford to-nigh t ' bee u he most favourable . accounts have , it b ey ceived in t own of theiirOgi•iss of the sie', e l. l oie. s ,' mg_now in general aCtivity 'the - e ite •.• .._ • lialad r ilg* The faimerS Hampshire ibra-ifiencect tit l Ivli for sta ba thi Pli to f e , Al; It(