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IMPERIAL PARLI AMEN T. HOUSE OF LORDS-(YESTERDAY.) The LORD CHANCELLOR took his seat on the woolsack at five o'clock. Lord MONTEAGLE presented ten petitions from various places signed by several thousands of persons in favour of the Sale of Beer Bill. Lord CONGLETON presented a petition from the an nual conference of the Wesleyan ministers against the sale of liquors on the Lord's-day. LIMITED LIABILITY BILL. Lord REDESDALE presented a petition from the Merchants' House of Glasgow, against the Limited Liability Bill. The noble lord took occasion to press upon the Government the propriety of withdrawing this bill for the session. It was obvious by the progress made in the Appropriation Bill, it had been intended to close the session on Saturday. He complained of the unprecedented course taken by the Go vernment to force on an important measure after the second reading of the Appropriation Bill. He referred to such measures of as urgent a cha racter as the Limited Liability Bill having been with drawn in consequence of the lateness of the session. Even in the morning sitting of the House of Commons on that day the Government had withdrawn the Leases of Settled Estates Bill. lie, therefore, was at a loss to account for the conduct of the Government in persever ing with a measure likethe Limited Liability Bill—a !Ilea i sore which involved so serious a change n our commer cial legislation, and which was open to so many objec tions. He did not think that the Government were pay ing a proper deference to the character of that house in pressing forward a measure the details of which it wai utterly impossible to consider with satisfaction at this period of the session. Lord CAMPBELL thought the Government were bound to proceed with the measure, after the pledges which they had g iven and the expect a ti ons they bad thereby raised ' but he believed the r esu lt o f the bill • wou ld be general disappointment. Earl GRANVILLE deprecated any discussion on the measure until it was regularly befor e th em. NUISANCES REMOVAL (AMENDMENT) BILL. On the motion of the Duke of ARGYLL, this bill was ` r ead a third time and passed. CONICAL FLOUR-MILL COMPANY. This bill was read a third time and passed. PUBLIC-HOUSES (IRELAND) BILL. Earl GRANVILLE rose to move that, inasmuch as the. bill for the Transfer of Licenses of Public-houses in Ireland is intended to remedy a construction of the law in relation to the transfer of licenses which has been but recently arrived at, the introduction of the bill took place at a late period, and as the decisions on the existing law bare been such as to be prodnctive of much public in convenience, consequently the circumstances which render legislation on the subject-matter of the said bill expedient are of such urgency as to render the immediate consideration of the same necessary. Lord MONTEAGLE said the course taken by the Government within the last few evenings was such as to render the standing orders of their lordships' honie a nullity. Earl GRANVILLE denied the Government were at all to blame for the course referred to. They had no alternative but to press certain bills, which they consi dered of a most urgent and important character, upon their lordships' attention. He would not, however, press his resolution if there was any strong objection to it. Lord ST. LEONARDS deprecated the conduct of the Government in reference to the standing orders of the house. Earl GREY charged the Government with forcing hills through the house against the rules of the house and the wishes of their lordships. Earl GRANVILLE considered that the noble earl was not at all justified in using such language towards the Government. The Marquis of BATH thought that the course taken by the Government was most objectionable. Earl GREY reiterated his objection to the proceed ings of the Government. After a few words from Earl GRANVILLE, The motion was agreed xo, and the bill was read a second time. _ . PUBLIC HEALTH ACT. This bill was read a second time. DISEASES PREVENTION BILL. This bill was read a second time. LIMITED LIABILITY BILL. On the motion for going into committee on the Limited Liability Bill, Lord ST. LEONARDS expressed a hope that, when he showed how the law at present stood, and the na ture of the bill, the Government would see the necessity of making the concession to arguments and facts which they were not disposed to yield to the small number of peers in attendance to oppose the measure. He had never obstructed useful legislation, but this was a mea sure which he should oppose to his utmost unless the Government would make such concessions as would make it a safe bill. Should the noble lord be forced to go into a select committee he would undertake that the whole subject should be considered in a day, or in a few hours, and he would promise not to offer any factious opposition. Lord CAMPBELL earnestly advised his noble friend to assent to the select committee. In two hours the bill could be considered, and he had not the smallest doubt but in a very short time it would be rendered in nocuous. Earl GREY could assure their lordships that he would do anything to promote the bill's passing in the present session, but he could not be so sanguine as to think that it could be brought into the shape in which it should pass in the course of a few hours. He should move that the order of the day for going into committee be discharged, and that the bill be referred to a select committee. Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEY referred to the evidence given before the commission for the purpose of showing that a very large proportion of it was in favour of the principle of the limited liability proposed by the bill. He was strongly of opinion that it would be un wise to endanger the progress of the bill by referring it to a select committee, and maintained that the house was perfectly competent in committee to discuss any suggestions for the improvement of the measure. Lord MONTEAGLE contended that their lordships could not in a committee of the house discuss with effect the amendments necessary to be introduced in the bill. The bill as it now stood admitted the principle of the necessity of safeguards, and in his opinion it ought not to be allowed to pass without a more complete system of safeguards being provided. Lord REDESDALE, after pointing out the defects and omissions of the measure, urged the Government not to press it further at the present period of the session. Earl GRANVILLE said he had a public duty to per form, and it appeared to him after what had taken place that it was impossible to agree to the proposition of his noble friend. He could not understand any course by which their lordships would more stultify themselves than to withdraw this bill after passing a resolution affirming that it was a matter of urgency their lordships should at once proceed to its consideration. If those re strictions were to be introduced, it ought to be done in a committee of the whole house, in justice to that large number of the middle classes who were anxious to see the bill passed into a law, and in order that hey might be informed as to the nature of those restrictions. Their lordships divided, when there appeared— For the amendment ll Against it 2B Majority for going into committee.. —l7 A proposition was then made for the adjournment of the house, which was resisted by Earl Granville and Lord Campbell, and after a brief discussion the house went into committee. Lord ST. LEONARDS moved that the chairman should report progress. Earl GREY hoped that the motion would not be pressed ; but again protested against the course taken by the Government in forcing on this measur e . As he knew the Government could defe a t th e motion, he asked his noble friend to postpone the motion until they saw in what spirit the discussion wa s carr i e d on by thnobre' lords on the Government benches. After some discussion, Clause 1 was proposed for adoption. Lord ST. LEONARDS handed in an amendment, to the effect, as was understood, that 10,0001. should be Inserted in the clause as the minimum amount of capital to be required, in shares of not less than 251. Lord MONTEAGLE supported the amendment. Lord CAMPBELL also supported the amendment, Earl GREY felt there was no good argument against the - amendment, which was, in fact, the original pro posal of the Government themselves. The Duke of ARGYLL held the opinion that there was really no good argument in favour of the amend ment. They were not to dictate z.o individual men And to companies the branches of trade to which they were to apply their capital. Lord ST. LEONARDS reminded their lordships that in the measure originally introduced by the Go vernment themselves 20,000/. was introduced, instead of 10,0001., which he sought by his amendment to get ingerted. Lord CAMPBELL supported the amendment. He thought that every one should be bound to fulfil his en gagement. i every e LORD CHANCELLOR f u ll y a d m itt e d th a t t,hoe one sho u ld b e b ound to make good h i s engagem.mt, question was, what were the engagements wider this bill— whether they would not enable parties to enter • i n to a limited instead of an unlimited liability. • The committee divided._ For the original clause—Contents is Non-contents 9 Majority against the amendment 9 Earl GREY moved an amendment to the effect that the shareholders should not be less than twenty-five in number. Earl GRANVILLE agreed to this amendment. Clause 1, as thus amended, was ordered to stand part of the bill: ' On clause 2, ' The LORD CHANCELLORproposed an amendment insurin g th at b e f ore an y existing company should re ceive the benefits of this bill its solvency should be ascer tained, and, that not less than 20 per cent, be paid up. Earl GREY proposed words more stringent than those moved by the Lord ChanCellor to the same effect. The LORD CHANCELLOR adopted Earl Grey' s words, and the clause was amended accordingly. Clause 2 was agreed to. ' In clause 3 a similar amendment, and some verbal alterations were made, and the clause as amended was ordered to stand part of the bill. e On clause 4, ' Lord CAMPBELL moved the insertion of words com pelling the bills of exchange, promissory notes, and cheques of the companies under the bill to be noted with . the words "limited liability." , Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEY agreed to the amendment. *t , Clause 4, as amended, was agreed to. On clause 5, Earl GREY moved an amendment, the effect of which was to provide that 20 per cent. of a reserve fund should be kept as a security for the creditors. Earl GRANVILLE objected to it. Lord CAMPBELL said it was contrary to the prin ciple of the bill. The amendment was negatived without a division. • On clause 6, Earl GREY said it was u n n e cessary to provide an inde pendent audit for the accounts of the companies, in order to prevent the issue of delusive reports. He proposed a proviso to the effect that the commissioners for auditing the public accounts should be empowered to appoint auditors to examine the accounts of the companies under this bill. Earl GRANVILLE said it would be impossible to have any system of audit such as the noble earl contem plated. Lord MONTEAGLE thought there would be consi derable difficulty in carrying out the audit effectually, but the experiment was worth trying. Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEY objected to the appointment on the ground of the expense which it would entail upon the companies formed under the act. Earl GREY denied that the expenses of an indepen dent auditor appointed by the Government would be greater than that which would attend the appointment of auditors by the companies themselves. Lord CAMPBELL thought if there was to be an audit it was imperative that it should be of an independent cha racter, and the appointment of auditors by a public department would not involve any greater difficulty or expense than would be incurred by the appointment of auditors by the companies themselves. After some further conversation the committee di vided, when there were-- For the proviso lO Against lB Majority —B The clause was then agreed to. Earl GREY then adverted to the slender attendance of peers, and moved that the house should resume. Earl GRANVILLE opposed the motion, which was sup ported by Lord MONTEAGLE. Earl GREY said that he should press the motion, for he felt it was impossible to give the bill that deliberate consideration which was requisite. He believed that the last proviso was rejected by the Government, not because they thought some such provision was undesir able, but because they feared its adoption would prevent the measure being passed in the limited period pf the session which still remained. Earl GRANVILLE denied that any reason of the kind alluded to had influenced the Government in oppos ing the proviso in question. He opposed it because he believed it would not work advantageously, and in that opinion he was supported by high authority. After some further conversation, the committtee di vided, when there were— Contents Non-contents Majority against reporting progress —lO The 7th and Bth clauses were agreed to. Earl GREY then moved the insertion of a clause to the effect that if the directors of any joint-stock company should declare a dividend after the company was insol vent, or the payment of which would render the com pany insolvent, they were to be liable for the debts of the company to the whole extent of their property. Lord STANLEY of ALDERLEY opposed the clause on the ground that it created a difference in the liability of shareholders and directors. Earl GREY said that a similar provision was in force in all other countries in which the principle of limited liability was in force. Lord DENMAN supported the clause. The LORD CHANCELLOR said that he did not see any objection to the clause, which was agreed to. Earl GREY then proposed the addition of another clause, declaring that no note of hand given by a share holder should be considered as payment of capital stock —that no loan should be made to a shareholder—and that any officer of a company making one should he liable to the full extent of his property. This clatise also was agreed to. Earl GREY then moved the adoption of another clause, enacting that no company should be allowed at one time to contract liabilities to a greater amount that their capital. After a short conversation, the clause was withdrawn. Earl GREY then moved another clause, adopted, like the former ones, from the laws of the State of Massachu setts, subjecting the directors or officers of any company to unlimited liability in case they were guilty of wilful false representation in any notice or account given or rendered by them in pursuance of the provisions of this or any other act. The LORD CHANCELLOR did not object to the prin ciple of the clause, but thought that the wording would require alteration. Earl GREY withdrew the clause, stating his intention to propose it in an amended form on the bringing up of the report. Clauses 9 and 10 were agreed to. Lord MONTEAGLE moved a clause directing the winding up of the affairs of any company which had lost three-fourths of its subscribed capital. The LORD CHANCELLOR opposed the clause as unnecessary. The Winding•up Act would meet the case. The elapse was agreed to, as were clauses 11 and 12. Clauses 13 and 14 were struck out. The preamble was agreed to, and the house resumed. Lord REDESDALE h o p e d that sufficient time would be given for the consideration of the report, and with that view he proposed that the bill should be reported on Monday. Earl GREY agreed in every word that had fallen from his noble friend. After a few words from Lord CAMPBELL, Earl GRANVILLE suggested that the third reading of the bill should he fixed fur Monday, and they would then have ample time to consider the amendments. Earl GREY protested against an important commer cial measure of this kind being forced through the house without time for consideration. Earl GRANVILLE considered that no bill had re ceived more consideration during the session. No bill had been more fully discussed in detail, or with more It was then agreed that the bill should be reported to morrow ',Ulla day). The Sale of Beer Bill was read a third time. The Militia Ballot Suspension Bill was read a third time and passed. The Consolidated Fund Appropriation Bill and the Exchequer-bills (7,000,000/.) Bill were read a second time. The remaining orders were disposed of, and their lordships adjourned at one o'clock. HOUSE OF COMMONS--(YESTERDAY.) The SPEAKER took the chair shortly after 12 o'clock. NEW WRITS. On the motion .of Mr. HA YTER a new writ was ordered for Kidderminster, in the place of Mr. Lowe, who has accepted the office of Vice-Presi dent of the Board of Trade ; also a now writ for Kilmarnock, in the place of Mr. Bouverie, who has accepted the office of President of the Poor Law Board ; also a new writ for the borough of Hertford, in the place of Mr. Cowper, who has accepted the office of President of the Board of Health. CHARITABLE TRUSTS BILL. This bill was read a third time and passed. UNION OF CONTIGUOUS BENEFICES BILL. This bill was read a third time and passed. CRIME AND OUTRAGE (IRELAND) CON- TINUANCE BILL. This bill was read a third time and passed. SCHOOL GRANTS (SECURITY FOR APPLI- CATION) BILL. This bill was alsi) read a third time and passed. LEASES AND, SALES_ OF SETTLED ESTATES BILL. The housr 4 then went into committee upon this bill. On clailse 20, Mr. WHITESIDE at some length contended that this cause had been ntroduced virtually for the pur pose of preventing the act applying to the case of Sir Thomas Wilson. It had been unjustly stated that that gentleman bad wished to enclose Hampstead Heath, when, in fact, he had only sought to obtain leasing powers ; in repeated attempts for which object he re ti eual l adt b ime e rli en a g obstructed by T h t e h the hon. f a ls ande reports leareed set gentlemani n e i cir culation a frieentdte,rwillvioernh h S e ir m T ai l e io t mas d W l il a so ri n y h eh im ew se e l d f, N t v h r i i .s tte t n o have been the case TMhre. 57,11408 supported the, clause. l co a n in c e lud c ed e by pointing out the manifest injustice of' P . Port c er th se. clause.GENEßeALsaid edly true that this claeufseithad. been introducewasd u into o utbhte bill, in consequence teaniitenwgsome clause of an stated to him that explicit nature it would bee°nBqaamee unless the bill did impossible . to carry its so as to give to the im tsheceonedlaurseeaditneg.he Afrtamthede he did net wish pression that it was directed° he had ticular individlial. Having, therefore,aaint any par how this difficulty could be best met, bodied a principle in the first lines of the 41 '1 era which the spirit of the clause perfectly accorded.wwasith —(hear)—and he maintained that that principle sound and correct one. With regard, however, to ' Si a r Thomas Wilson, let him renew his application to the house, and he (the Solicitor-General) would undertake to say that when that application was made the recol lection of this debate would induce it to give that gen tleman's claims the best and most liberal attention ; an d beyond question ParliaMent was the most fitting pl ace to adjudicate upon them. (Hear, hear.) Mr. BARROW said his support to the clause would be based upon his repugnance to the general principle of interfering with the wills of testators. Sir J. V. SHELLEY did not approve of the kind of side-wind which had been brought to bear upon this clause, and supported it on the ground that to expunge ft would endanger the further progress of the measure. Sir J. GRAHAM was quite taken by surprise by the debate which had just been originated. He had come down to the house to take part in the discussion of a measure which_ stood-a little lower on the paper—be meant the Despatch of Business in the Court of Chan cery Bill —and he must say that a Court of Equity which i bad of late been purged of many defects, would, in Commons could t :_ s e ° ,P e ir?ion, be a much safer and more fitting tribunal for '4 a l esion of the claims which had been brought for ward the case of Sir Thos. Wilson than the House of thought that it w Hampstead-heath be. He was as great an admirer of as any person could possibly be, and tion of the peopleaaaanoanducive to the health and recren that, rather than it shouldou g b h e t nothe should o b e enclosed, adv eea e t and th e purchase, on Crown,n, of an y r i g ht s w hi c h behalf the Crown, i Sir Thomas Wilson mi ght have n these lands. As to TOE SUN, LONDON; FRIDAY EVEN ING, AUGUST 10, 1855 the clause under notice, he should be in favour of it s adoption, did i t provide for the appearance of parties in the Court of Chancery ; but as it stood he objected to it, and should like to see it modified so as to meet his view of the matter. At all events he conceived there could be no better tribunal for adjudication upon leasing powers than the Court of Chancery. After a few words from Mr. BUTT, Sir D. NORREYS thought the most honest course for the house to adopt would be not to make the bill un just to an individual, but leave it to the Court of Chan cery to decide all matters that were in question. Mr. HENLEY objected to the clause, thinking it a means of inflicting a private hardship upon public prin ciples. After some observations from Mr. BALL, Sir B. HALL thought that it would be far better that the case of Sir Thomas Wilson should be altogether avoided and left out of the bill, and he should therefore vote for the clause. Mr. MALINS denied that it had ever been the inten tion of Sir Thos. Wilson to enclose Hampstead-heath. He would rather see the bill stopped altogether than that the clause which was proposed should be inserted. He would give his most strenuous opposition to the clause. Lord R. GROSVENOR hoped the bill would pass with this clause, but if the clause was rejected he trusted the bill would be withdrawn. Mr. J. G. PHILLIMORE thought there were grave objections to this bill, but if it was passed with this clause he bad no hesitation in saying it would be a most unjust and preposterous measure. Mr. L. WIGRAM thought the bill ought to pass with the clause in it, but he put it to the Solicitor-Gene ral whether it would not be better for bon, members to enjoy themselves with the fresh air of Hampstead-heath in preference to discussing a measure that could not by any possibility pass during the present session. The SOLICITOR-GENERAL admitted the good sense of the suggestion of the hon. and learned member for the University of Cambridge. (Hear.) If gentlemen were determined to divide on the omission of the clause, he would feel bound, knowing that the bill would be use less without the clause, to withdraw the measure alto gether. After some observations from Mr. HENLEY, Sir G. GREY said that after the statements of the Solicitor-General he should withdraw the measure, and for that purpose he should move that the Chairman re port progress. A short discussion then took place. The chairman reported progress, and obtained leave to sit again that day three months. The result is the bill is withdrawn. DESPATCH OF BUSINESS COURT OF CHAN CERY BILL. On the house going into committee on this bill, Sir J. GRAHAM adverted to the charges that had taken place in the administration of justice in the Court of Chancery, and congratulated the house in passing a measure which had been productive of so much good. He felt proud that the change should have taken place in some measure from a suggestion of his own, and under his ministration. (Hear.) It was true that by the measure introduced by him in 1852 the labours of the judges had been greatly increased, but those labours had been cheerfully borne, and the arrears in the Court of Chancery had been kept down, although there had been a far greater increase of business than had ever been known in the Court of Chancery in so short a period as the time that bad elapsed since the passing of the act in 1852. He believed the present measure would be pro ductive of great good, although it began at the bottom instead of the top. The measure had received the sanc tion of the Master of the Rolls, the Vice-Chancellors, and the Lord Justice Turner. He thought, however, that the two first clauses were objectionable, because he was afraid that the measure, as at present put for ward, would hold out a temptation to the judges to refer matters of the greatest importance to their subordinates. He deprecated the course that had been pursued of judges, after sitting six hours in court, being called upon to attend to matters in chambers. He thought that other judges should be appointed to attend to chamber business, and thereby relieve the present judges from the onerous duties they had to per form. If the present measure was carried, expense would be saved, and the public would be benefitted. He was in hope that in another session a measure would be brought forward for the appointment of additional judges in the Court of Chancery, in consequence of the great increase in the labours of the present judges. Mr. MALINS doubted the propriety of appointing new judges in the Court of Chancery, and as an instance of there being no, necessity for such a course, he might state that the Vice-Chancellor Stuart rose on the 27th of last month, having disposed of every ca;e before him, and nothing to do in his chambers. In fact there was at the present moment no arrears in the Court of Chancery, a circumstance that he believed was without precedent previous to the last few years. The hon. and learned gentleman was interrupted by The SPEAKER, who stated that the hour of adjourn ment had arrived (10 minutes to four). The SOLICITOR-GENERAL intimated that it was his intention to proceed with the measure through all its stages to-morrow. The house then adjourned to six o'clock. --- The house resumed at six o'clock. PETITIONS. Petitions wer e presented by Mr. Kennedy, from the board of guardians of the Bailieborough Union, in the county of Cavan, Ireland, complaining that legal provision fur the ministrations and religious instruction of the Catholic in mates of the Bailieborough workhouse had during the past 9 months been withhold, in ertnaaq11........ sioners for administering the laws for relief of the poor in Ireland refusing to sanction the grant of adequ4to salary to secure the services of a Catholic chaplain, during which time the Catholic inmates had been left dependent for divine service and clerical instruction on the voluntary at tendance afforded by the late chaplain ; by Mr. Hamilton, from the parish of Kilroan, county of Cork, in support of any measure for closing public-houses on the Sabbath day; by Mr. Brady, from Dr. Crisp, in favour of a gra duated income tax ; by Mr. C. Villiers, signed by 10,000 mechanics, coal porters, cabmen, and other working men, complaining of the adulteration of malt liquor (especially porter), and praying the interference of the Legislature to prevent the same ; by Mr. Robert Phillimore, from Mr, Forbes, complaining of the limitation as to numbers of sheets of publications sent by post ; by Mr. Gregs,',,n, front the inhabitants of Bacup, praying for the prohibition of the saleof intoxicating liquors the whole of S,anday, and from the Rev. Richard Greaves, praying for a revision of the Canons of the Church. THE ARCTIC EXPEDITION. In answer to Colonel FREESTIIN, Sir C. WOOD said ho had only just received the report of the Arctic Expedition Committee, but had not yet had time to read it. Ho was not prepared to say whether it was intended to grant a decoration to the officers and men engaged therein. CONVOCATION. Mr. KINNAIRD wished to ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether any address had been presented to her Majesty praying for the revival of Con vocation, and whether any answer had been given to such address ; and if he had any objection to lay copies of the same on the table of the house ? Sir G. GREY—An address was transmitted to me not long ago from the Upper House of Convocation, praying that her Majesty would be pleased to grant her license to convocation to consider and agree on a canon or constitu tion to be submitted for her approval for the -purpose of modifying the representation of the clergy in the Lower House of Convocation. That address had been laid before her Majesty, and an answer had been returned to the Arch bishop of Canterbury. There would be no objection to produce the address of the Upper House of Convocation and the reply thereto. But he might state that her Ma. jeaty had not been advised to comply with the address. THE HA.NSI TRANSPORT. In reply to Mr. STAFFORD, Sir C. WOOD said that his attention had not been called to the alleged detention of invalids from the Crimea at Ports mouth. If any cases werefurnished to him he would inquire into them. As he was on his legs he might advert to the case of the Hansa transport, and of the late Col. Louth. He had received a letter from the port admiral, stating that the men on hoard that ship had been particularly well treated ; nor was he aware until yesterday that complaints had been made with respect to the accommodation and messing of the officers. On hearing of this the Transport Board had sent down to Portsmouth to direct an inquiry into the accommodation provided for the officers. Tbey hail re ceived i❑ reply a letter from the master shipwright, in which he stated that he had examined the cabins of the ship, that ho found them clean, well lighted, and well ventilated ; that the late Colonel Louth had allotted to him the cabin space usually occupied by three officers, and that the accommodation given to the officers on board the Hansa was equal to that provided for passengers on board passenger ships of the same class. With respect to the messing of the officers an inquiry into that subject was still in progress. NEWSPAPER POSTAGE. Mr. THORNELY wished to ask the Secretary of the Treasury whether any steps had been taken to remedy the inconvenience recently sustained with regard to news papers posted for the colonies and for foreign countries ? Mr. WILSON stated that the attention of the Postmas ter-General had been called to this subject, and he had, with the assent of the Treasury, determined to issue an order providing that in future it should only be necessary to affix a postage label to newspapers, stamped or un stamped, which were sent abroad to the colonies, and that it should not be nece ssar y, as at present, that each copy so sent should have both an impressed stamp and a po,tage stamp. THE LATE MR. HUME. the M ar ~ i. e lV a B . u N r l y r ILL wh l e .it he l wished rS he intended n d to e d a ask- the recommend First L thatord ofa B: f a tluveeosWestminster mthie ns later Josepharngs n lit u t m h o e seof shall be distinguishedplac placed in B tli palacee ri tiFik patriot s , or th o a d opt i on of some other means for comme morating his eminent public services ? Lord PALMERSTON expressed the great respect he en tertained for the late Mr. Hume, but said that as no pro position on this subject had been brought under the con sideration of the Government he was unable to give any further reply to the question. METROPOLIS LOCAL MANAGEMENT BILL. The Lords' amendments to this bill were considered, and agreed to with two or three exceptions. The only one of any importance was that with respect to the appointment of the chairman of the Metropolitan Board of Works. As the bill went up to the Rouse of Lords, the appoint men t was vested ab so l utely in the board itself.' The upper house throe m u a whoe s should t io S ose e l c e r c e t t a oner y o f f rSotmat eamongst introduced a p rov i s i on rendering it incumbent on the hoard t t ho c Homo . submit Department, Lord R. GROSVENOR. thought it i nexpe di ent to agree to this amendment. Sir C. GREY agreed with his noble friend. He thought that the effect of the amendment would be to diminish the responsibility of the Board o f W orks, without giving the , Secretary of otato any effective control over the appoint ment of chairman. The amendment was accordingly disagreed from. NAVAL GOVERNMENT. Captain SCOBELL moved for a select committee- to in quire into the government of the navy relati ng t o th e list of officers, patronage, promotion, and the efficiency of the service in all its grades. He did not expect that the com mittee, if appointei, could enter upon the investigation this session, and his chief object in rising was to obtain an assurance from the Government that some inquiry would take place, or an expression of opinion from the house that an inquiry ought to be made. The system of promotion in the navy was en the most unsatisfactory state. It was founded on patronage and political influence, and he did not hesitate to say that the naval service required admi nistrative reform for more than the civil service. The mismanagement of the navy was accounted for b , the fact that shore had b een no f ewer than four -first Lords within the last few yearn, •etid that there were above a dozen secretariee of the Admiralty now living, beginning with Mr. Croker. Merit should bo the only passpost to office and promotion in the naval ser vice, as everywhere else. He was no enemy of the aris tocracy, but family and political influence should never obtain for any man service under the Crown, and the sooner such a system was given up the better. Sir George Cockburn, in the well-known paper found under his will, stated as the result of his experience that he considered the constitution of the Admiralty Board to be most un satisfactory, and the least efficient for its purpose that could be devised, and that he thought the management of the navy should be transferred to a flag officer and two councillors, with one comptroller, who should have a seat in Parliament, and attend to the financial business of the department. He quoted extracts from speeches by Lord Palmerston and M . r, Disraeli aga i ns t p l ac i ng t h e army i n the hands of a civilian, and allowing its patronage to be dispensed from the Treasury-bench, and contended that those remarks applied to the naval as well as the military service. In 1800, we had 167 sail of the line in commission ; now we had only 43. Then we had 120,000 seamen and ma rines ; now we bad only 40,000. Then we had 99 admirals ; now we had no fewer than 272, and that, too, after a forty years' peace. It was a rule of the Admiralty that no officer could be made an admiral until he had served six years as a post captain. But many officers found it impossible, however willing, to serve six:' years as post-captains, and, they were consequently not in a position to be made admi rals. From January, 1850, there had been 37 captains made active admirals, but 113 had been condemned to re tirement, and that from ro wish or fault of their own. He did not intend to refer to individual cases of hardship, but ho might mention that the late Capt. Christie was 31 years in rising to the same point which Admiral Dundas attained in 9. In 1847, 1848, and 1 , 49 there were 50 captains pro moted. Of these, 13 served only from 2 to 5 years as commanders, and as lieutenants from 5 to 12 years ; but in the same years he found in the /Vary List the names of officers who had served from 10 to 26 years as com manders, and from 17 to 32 as lieutenants. We had twice as many commanders now as in 1800. There were at present 549 active commanders, of whom about 220 bad been from thirty to fifty years in the navy, and the number of retired commanders was 570. Of the active commanders 196 were employed on half-pay—a sys tem to which there was no parallel in the army. He now came to the lieutenants. In 1800 there were 2,157 lieuten ants in the navy ; we had now 1,175 active lieutenants, and 1,713 retired. Some of the latter had no more than 4s. a day ; but the general pay was 55., 65., and 7s. less than that of retired officers of similar rank in the army. About two thirds of the lieutenants never got promoted at all. With respect to the first lieutenants, there were 90 men in the navy now who were lieutenants in the last war, and a large proportion of them had medals, some two or three. .He could name 70 captains who entered the service after these lieutenants. On the retired list of lieutenants there were 700 or 800, and of those 300 had been in ac tion. He thought he had made pretty sure that the house would take some interest in this body of men. He had no wish to fix the forms of inquiry ; if a commission was preferred to a committee of the house he should have no objection to it, as all he wanted was to see the facts inquired into. (Hear, hear.) There was another point he must draw attention to, and that w as this—too many cadets were allowed to enter into the navy, because, under the existing system s out of the large number that entered every year not more than a tithe could get on. His objection on this head applied as much to what was the practice before the war began as to the present time. The entries were vastly disproportioned to the promotions, and that was one of the great causes of the evil. (Hear.) He had troubled the house with figures, but ho believed they were the best arguments for his case ; and he hoped, as they were so irresistible, the Government would say that a committee shall be appointed next year. At all events, ho had no alternative but to leave the matter in the hands of the house, in the full hope that ultimately some remedy would be applied to these evils, either in the way of limit ing the mod e o f p rom otion to merit and service, or by ex tending the system of absolute retirement on pensions. depended upon the command of The safety of :E ng l an d the sea, and, therefore, it was of vital importance that her navy should h a ve fair play, which it could not be said to have had for a long series of years. Ho was an ad vocate for an efficient but a small army, and with such assistance the navy would always bo able to defend the country against her enemies. (Hear, hear.) Mr. TITE seconded the motion. The opinion was gain ing ground that the patronage and management of the navy should no longer bo allowed to depend upon political changes, while the instances of maladministration at the Board of Admiralty had become so glaring that some in quiry must be had with a view to devising a remedy for the evils. (Hear.) Sir C. WOOD had no intention of disputing the figures which had been brought forward, and was far less disposed to question the motive which had induced tho hon. and gallant member to make this motion. No doubt his only desire was to promote the interest of the navy, but at the same time he must take leave to remind the house that only seven years ago this very subject, amongst others, was inquired into by a select committee. He therefore did not think that the appointment of another com mittee was called for. Every recommendation but one which Lord Seymour's committee made with regard to the navy had since been carried out. A better committee for the purpose could not have been appointed before, and ho really could not see what advantage would be gained by reviving a similar tribunal. (Hear.) The hon. and gallant gentleman had insisted upon the importance of promoting old and meritorious officers, while 120 had urged the neces sity of constantly keeping young men in command ; but the house would perceive that it was utterly impossible to attain the two objects at the same time. On the whole, the existing system, though faulty in some respects, was good in the whole, and the Board of Admiralty, generally speaking, had administered it in an impartial manner. The h nji d crallant mArnh,o , 1“.1 ~ , ,,v irgrisons with 18 oe 00, but that was hardly fair, because a long interval of peace had since elapsed. At the end of the war there were 855 captains, 816 commanders, and 3,580 lieutenants. Fifteen years afterwards the numbers were 851 captains, 905 commanders, and 3,580 lieutenants, and complaints were made that the navy was as strong, after 15 years' peace, as it was in a period of war ; but to keep up the efficiency of the service it was absolutely necessary that the same system should be observed in time of peace as in a time of war. All the men who had entered the navy, and who wore promoted at the end of the last war to the sank of lieutenant, could hardly expect to advance further in the service, because, in fact, there were many more created than could be employed. In this way they had grown old, and as the period of hostilities returned it could hardly be avoided that younger and more active mon should be ad vanced over their beads. The efficiency of the service had been kept up during the long peace, which of course had made a reduction of unemployed off tiers the more difficult, but all the recommendations for the purpose which committees and commissions had made from time to time were now and had been steadily carried out. It was not necessary for him to go over the entire Navy List to make out his answer to this motion; it was enough to state that the circumstances of war served to create so many officers of the lower rank, that it was quite impossible over to find employment for them in the higherranks ; and having stated that it might almost be said that he had disposed of the motion. The list being then so extensive and the field of employment so contracted, how could it be otherwise than that men should remain, as it were, neglected? But, if neglected they were, it was no fault of the system; it was the result of a period of war producing more men than could possibly be required in a time of peace. And yet the hon. and gallant member wished the house to believe that all this seeming neglect was attributable to political or family influence. For his own part, ho would not defend the conduct of all past Boards of Admiralty, but this ho would say, he very much doubted whether a Go vernment gained any advantage by making their selections from political motives. He had not been long at the Ad miralty, and, therefore, he could not speak over-confidently from experience, but in the appointments ho had made he had not been influenced by family or political motives, but by the fitness of the parties to fill the offices vacant. Nevertheless many charges bad been made against him of his being actuated by unworthy motives. For instance, the first appointment he made was to give a sloop to a com mander; ho did so upon the representation of his collea gues in the Board, who represented tho man whom ho ap pointed to be an old and meritorious officer, and the one best fitted for the command ; but although he did so, a few days afterwards a letter appeared in the public prints, com plaining that his ver y fi rs t ac t upon taking office at the Admiralty was to give employment to a relation. Not hav ing any relation in the navy beyond a youth of some 13 years of age, ho was quite at a loss to discover how such an impression could have got abroad ; but upon further re flection he traced it to the fact that the name of the officer be had appointed, whom he did not know personally, was Francis Wood. (Hear, and a laugh.) Every officer whom ho had appointed was a man of the highest character, and yet he had been accused of the most atrocious mismanagement. As an instance of the injustice of the charges which had been made against him, he might mention the fact that he had been charged by a noble lord with having neglected the application of a certain gentleman, when ho fact was that no such person had ever applied. Of the eight appointments which he had made he was quite guiltless of having been influence.' by the unworthy mo tives attributed to him. The hon. and gallant gentleman said that many young men obtained their rank in a very short time. No doubt that was the case. But how could there be young admirals unless young men were promoted ? The question was, how could the country bo best served ? If no persons were promoted but old lieutenants and old commanders, the list of admirals must, necessarily con sist of old men. In 1851 his right hon. friend the member for Portsmouth (Sir F. Baring) created a reserved list. No doubt the rule operated unequally in some cases. There were many admirals on the active list who were perfectly , capable of service, but it was not quite clear that the re commendation that all persons should go off the admirals' list at a certain ago would be just. In 1848 there were only 6 admirals on the active list under 60 years of age. There were now 17, 9 of whom were under 55. It hail been said that all the officers who obtained rank were persons of high pcsition or Parliamentary influence. Now, on looking through the list to which he had just referred, ho found that of the 9 officers under 55 years of age, 3 had aristocratic or political influence, whilst the other 6 had no such influence. The mass of admirals on the active service list had no Parliamentary or aristocratic influence whatever. The system which had been pursued had proved efficient in bringing down the list of admirals to the prescribed number, and in promot ing captains, whereby younger men were obtained as ad mirals ; and as the system went on it would work still better. In the lower ranks, however, something remained to be done, but the matter required groat consideration and care. The service was at this time in the most effi cient state. - Merit had not been overlooked. On the con trary, it had been fostered by successive Boards of Admi ralty, and from the admiral down to the cabin boy every one was fully com p e t en t t o di s charge all th e duties re quired of him. No better proof could be offered that the proper men had been put into the proper places, and he was quite certain that whenever called upon they would do credit to themselves, and contriToute to the safety, honour, and glory of the country. ((sheers.) _ .. ~ Sir G. PECHELL was glad thr.t his hon. and gallant friend had brought forward the+ subject now under dis cussion, inasmuch as it afforded the First Lord of the Ad miralty an opportunity of defen ding his conduct in con nection with the department ON 'er which he presided. Sir G. Cockburn had complained t' oat he was overruled during his services at the board, any that his recommendations had n o t b een attended to ; by A the fact was that that gal lant officer Lad nevor su b m i t ,ted any pro j ec t t o th e h ouse, and had opposed the nuotio - a o f Si r C. Napier and other gallant o ffi cers when they • ftere submitted to the house. He could not i magine whq i .ad overruled Sir G. Cockburn at the b oar d , and tb co uldenlighton tl' Ae souse on, + , that aubjeot, wai the hon,niera. - - :. only h on. member now present who ber. for Lewes (Mr. Fitzroy). The present Board of Admiralty was a vast improvement over former boards, when the ma jority were of the lay and civil class, and when naval offi cers were almost excluded. There was nothing to complain of now with respect to the board except the system. "With respect to patronage ho believed that political influ ence was too powerful, and that some change ought to take place.' He recommended that the sum paid for the con veyance of treasure should bo brought to the public ac count, and applied under the direction of the Admiralty. In regard to the employment of admirals on the retired list, the gallant admiral stated that when he applied for a ship he was informed that the timber was not cut to build the ship, nor was the sheep killed whose skin was to supply the parchment on which to write his commission. Many officers were unable to obtain shins, and thus to comply with the regulations required to be fulfilled beforo they became admirals, because they had no influence to enforce attention to their wishes. Hetlid not think that the eminent services of the coast guard were sufficiently rewarded by promo tions. Admiral IVALCOTT concuriod in many of the objec tions proposed by the hon. and gallant member for Bath (Captain Scobell), and if he divided the house he should go into the lobby with him. He had risen principally, how ever, to suggest that to relieve the First Lord of the Admi ralty of the weight of patronage of which he had so much complained, the naval lords should be made in fact, as they were in theory, in all respects the advisers of their political chief. The gallant admiral was proceeding to other topics, when an hon. member called attention to the state of the house. The SPEAKER counted, when there were only thirty four members present, and the house adjourned at a quar ter before eleven o'clock. CRYSTAL PALACE COMPANY. The third ordinary general meeting of this company was held yesterday at the Bridge House Hotel, Lon don-bridge, for the reception of the report, &c., of the directors, and also for the purpose of authorising the conversion of the share capital into stock, and for rati fying an agreement with the West End and Crystal Palace Railway Company. Mr. Laing, M.P., the chairman of the company, presided. There was a numerous attendance of proprietors. The SECRETARY (Mr. G. Grove) having read the re port of the directors and the financial statement, which have already been published in Tire Sum, The CHAIRMAN moved their reception and adoption by the shareholders, and was about to proceed, when Mr. LYON called the attention of the meeting to the fact that the accounts and books of the company had not been taken forty-two days before the day of meeting before the auditors according to the char ter. The accounts ought to have been ready for the inspection of the shareholders 14 days before the meeting ; but, on his going to the Palace, on the 2d August, he found the accounts were not ready, and he received uncourteous treatment from the official at that place. He complained of the revenue-book not being forthcoming, as it ought to have been, and characterised the accounts as being in a bad state—(hear)—neither showing the whole of the receipts nor payments of the Company. (Hear, hear.) He thought a committee should be appointed to investigate the accounts. (Hear, hear.) The CHAIRMAN interrupted Mr. Lyon, by reminding him he was not in order. (Hear, and hisses.) The proper mode was for him (the chairman) to make his statement, and then Mr. Lyon, or any proprietor, could address the meeting. (Hear, hear, and dis approbation.) Mr. LYON having assented to this course, The CHAIRMAN said this was the first time he had heard anything against the period at which the accounts and books should be sent before the auditors. It was true that by the charter the accounts and books should be sent before the auditors 42 days before the day of meeting ; but as it was thought desirable the accounts of the company, like those of railway companies, should be made up to the 30th June, it was impossible to send the books and accounts before the auditors 42 days be fore the day of meeting, unless an adjournment of the day of meeting took place for that purpose. He knew nothing about the audit except that he found a certificate, signed by Mr. Whitmore and Mr. Fletcher, the auditors, respectable gentlemen, stating they had examined the accounts and found them correct, and, as to the inspec tion of the books, the shareholders bad a right to do so by the terms of the charter. The directors had never en tertained the idea of keeping back information from the shareholders, nor were they such fools as to do so, knowing that when the shareholders had had access to the books there would ho nothing found that could re coil on their heads. (Hear, hear.) The directors could now say that the construction of the great undertaking was practically at an end, the only portions which now awaited entire completion being the great range of lower fountains—(hear, hear)—the upper ones having been completed and played with success, without interruption, during the summer. The upper range of fountains being substantially completed, the only question for the consideration of the directors was the policy of their per mitting them to he played now or keep them for addi tional attraction for the ensuing year. (Hear.) As a work of art the Crystal Palace had been most successful, and he stated deliberately, after a journey of businees through most of the great capitals of Europe, where he had lied an opportunity of refreshing his memory with a sight of a great many monuments and works of art, that he had seen nothing so great and beautiful in itself as a work of art as the Crystal Palace ; and in future years when they looked back on the names of Paxton, the Presiding genius and Digby Wyatt, and Owen Jones, gentlemen who had carried out those beautiful courts which they all admired, a halo would surround their names, and they would rank as high as any of the great Italian artists of the middle ages, not excepting Raphael or Michael Angelo. (Applause.) Its success as a public and national undertaking had no doubt depended much on the manner in which certain great ceremonies and fetes had been carried out, such as the opening cere mony by the Queen and the Royal family, and the visit of the Emperor and Empress of the French. The Crystal Palace now assumed a national character, which had been worthily carried out, for he hoped nothing had been done in the direction of the undertaking to derogate from that character, but that they had rather been actuated on all occasions with a desire to give ad ditional eclat to it, and make it a means of instruction and innocent recreation for the masses of the people-- (hear)—and the palace having been visited by upwards of 1,300,000 persons none could deny but that great good must have been effected. (Hear.) As to its cone , mercial object he apprehended the high expectations they entertained at the early period of the undertaking had not been realised. The figures before the meeting showing the result for the first year were, considering all circumstances, very favourable. All their expenses had been discharged, and a dividend of 5 per cent. had been paid, and a considerable surplus carried over. They had now entered their second year, when it might be expected the attracton of its novelty might be abated, but he was happy to state that the number of visitors on which they mainly depended bad fully answered their expectations, the numbers for the past week being equal to that of the corresponding period of last year, which was a remarkable fact, when they con sidered the attraction of novelty must have abated, and when the excursion and pleasure traffic of the railways of -the kingdom had considerably fallen off from the high price of provisions and the expenses of the war. After adverting to the imperfect means of communication to the Crystal Palace, which was likely soon to be remedied by the railway now in course of prosecution, which he hoped would have the means of keeping up the average number of visitors to the Crystal Palace, and give the shareholders a fair remuneration for the outlay, he said the applications for space up to the present time for exhibition in the building had been a fail ure, but he hoped in future years it would turn out a source of profit when its value as an advertising medium was more fully appreciated. (Hear.) A suggestion had been made for converting shares into life tickets of admission, which had been sup ported by some and objected to by others, and his only object in then mentioning it was that he thought it should not be tried until the result of their undertaking had been more clearly ascertained. They were now arrived at that part of the undertaking when the con struction account having been wound up a new era of management opened. The Crystal Palace required more than any undertaking he was acquainted with men of extraordinary talent and ability to successfully manage its affairs, and the princi pal director required to be almost a walking cyclopedia, and he acquainted with everything under the sure He should be able to enter into all the details of expendi ture, and devise novelties of attraction for the public, so as to draw a large number to the palace. (Hear.) He (the chairman) must decline undertaking the duties of chair man of their direction any longer, not having time to devote to it, as he had been compelled to that of others. Mr. Calvert and Mr. Lushington had resigned from the same cause, and Mr. Fuller having gone out of the direction on the question of life tickets, there were now four va cancies in the direction. Seeing so many vacancies, and feeling it necessary there should be a re-organisation of t l ,e management of the undertaking, he proposed the appointment of a committee to consult with the remain ing directors 'as to the best persons to be nominated di rectors ; and also to consult with them relative to a plan for the future management. After some other general remarks, the chairman moved the adoption of the report and the accounts. Mr. ANDERSON seconded the motion. A long and stormy discussion took place relative to the management, in the course of which Mr. Tyrrell, Mr. Lyon, Mr. Slack, Mr. Etches, Mr. Farquhart, the Chairman, Mr. Sotheby, and others took part, a variety of resolutions being proposed relative to the objects sought by the appointment of a committee for the pur poses mentioned by the Chairman. Ultimately the following gentlemen were appointed :—Messrs Jouadies, F. Fuller, D. Price, D. Oglevie, H. Waite, S. Court hall, J. Etches, H. J. Slack, H. Lowe, and S. Beale, who were also to examine tlke accounts and booics, and report at a future special meeting. Mr. FELLER, who said he was satisfied with the con duct of the directors, but whose only fault was that they legislated more liberally for the public than the share holders, wished to see the capital account reduced by the issue of life or terminal tickets— the shareholders to have an advantage over the public. He was opposed to the reduction of the season tickets from two guineas to one guinea, and hoped the ss. day would be altered to some other day than Saturday, now the Saturday holiday movement had been so extensive in London. Ho wished to see the grounds open to share. holders on Sunday, where refreshments should be sup plied at a moderato price, but no intoxicating beverages sold. The subject was referred to the committee above ap pointed. Mr. Anderson and Mr. Scott Russell were re-elected directors. Mr, J. Ball (of the firm of Quilter and Ball) was elected auditor in the room of Mr. Whitmore, resigned. A unanimous request WM made to Mr. Laing to con tinue Chairman of the Company, but he said he was compelled respectfully, though reluctantly, to decline complying with their request. The other purposes for which the meeting was called having been agreed to, a vote of thanks was accorded to the Chairman, and the meeting separated. The meeting occupied three hours and a half. ASSIZE .INTELLNENCE. WESTERN CIRCUIT.-BRISTOL, AUG. 9. The commission was opened by Mr. Justice Williams. There were only 16 causes entered. CIVIL COURT.-BARWICK V. HAWKER. Mr. H. T. Cole was counsel for the plaintiff, and Mr. Serjeant Kinglake and Mr. Barstow for the defendant. This was an action upon a bill of exchange for 38/. The defendant pleaded that the bill had been given for a bet which had been won at horse racing. The plaintiff having put in the bill, The defendant was called, and said—l know the plain tiff. I became acquainted with him in 1819 or 1850, through a Mr. Herbert. I had bets with him on the Northamptonshire Stakes aad the Chester Cup in 1850. The bill was given for bets on those two races. My affairs are in the Court of Chancery. Cross-examined--I shall he 61 years of age next Sep tember. I have betted for 25 years. I took 35/. to 5/. upon the Northamptonshire Stakes. I betted many times with Mr. Barwick, and I dare say I paid him, but I did not pay him this 51. bet. I cannot find in my book an entry for the bet on the Chester Cup. The fact is, I was careless about my books. When I made the bets I anticipated either paying or receiving. I don't know whether the plaintiff is a wine merchant: I read the bill before I signed it. (The bill was for value received in wine.) I never had any wine from the plaintiff. The plaintiff told me it was necessary I should pay a Mr. King the bets I owed him. This is the only bill the plaintiff ever had of me. (A letter was then put in from the defendant's attorney to the plaintiff, in which he stated that he enclosed him a 38/. bill of the defendant's, and begged him to return the former bill.) I do not re collect ever having given the plaintiff any other bill than the present. Ike-examined.—The bill was given for bets, and no thing else. Ar. Cole said that when his learned friend had opened his case, and talked about the Court of Chancery, he fully expected to see the defendant, when put In the box, appear to be a ward in Chancery, who had been fleeced by the plaintiff, a "verdant green," instead of which he turned out to be an " old rook" of 61, who had indulged in betting for 25 years, and this bill had been given as a renewal of a former bill, which had been given months before either the Northamptonshire Stakes or the Chester Cup bad been run for. The fact was, the bill had been given to cover an account for wine, &c., fur which he was indebted to the plaintiff. Barwick.—l am the plaintiff, and first became acquainted with the defendant in 1850. I had bets with him, but never to more than 101. at a time. Every bet he lost to me he paid. I don't recollect the bet of 351. to Si. The bets were seldom more than 2/. I was a wine merchant, and supplied King, a publican in Far ringdon-street.. I think he also was a betting man. I introduced the defendant to him. The defendant used to drink a deal of wine there, and gave dinners there. I told the defendant that it was excessively unpleasant to me, having introduced the defendant to King, that he should owe him money, and King said ho should like to have an arrangement if I would draw a bill on the de fendant and give King credit for it, and accordingly, in January, 1850, I drew a bill for 351. upon Hawker. The bill was dishonoured, and I received letters from the de fendant promising to pay money on account, but an arrangement was made for giving the present bill and having the old one returned, and I sent back the old bill to Hawker. The 381. did not include a single shilling for a bet. I don't think I ever betted with him at all before I drew the first bill. Cross-examined.—l have had very little to do with bet ting during the last 10 years. I became acquainted with Hawker at Herbert's table, who is the solicitor of Haw ker. There was a betting list at King's house, kept by one Baines. It was scarcely possible to go into a pub lic-house in London at that time without finding a bet ting list. Mr. King owed me 701. or 80/, when this bill was given, and Hawker owed King 331. I very likely kept a betting book, but it was very small ; it was not a regular betting book. The following letter was put in written by the witness to the defendant : " Dear Sir,—l called at King's this morning, where they gave me a letter received from you yesterday, where you expressed a wish to back some animals for the Chester Cup. They are not able to lay against those you want ; but, as I have a 1 001. book on the event, you can have the following odds from me if you say ' done.'—Yours, _ " W. BARWICK. 80 to 20 agst Essedarius Herbert, self, and one or 70 20 Malton two more have a bit of a 50 —2O John Cosser dinner at King's on Fri -100 30 Little Isett 123 —2O Mark Tapley day. Come up. " Mr. G. Hawker." The figures in that letter have been altered. The noughts to the figures are not mine. It should be 80 to 2, not 20. There was not a notice sent to me from Chancery to send in my claim. There was one sent to Mr. Powell, who was my solicitor. Mr. Serjeant Kinglake then, for the defendant, said that it was manifest that the plaintiff and defendant could not both have spoken the trt.th ; but he urged that the defendant had given the true account of the transaction, and was entitled to the verdict. The Learned Judge having summed up, The jury returned a verdict for the plaintiff for 471, 10s, POLICE INTELLIGENCE. MANSION-HOUSE.—Edward Foley, the proprietor of the Griffin public-house, No. 99, Shoreditch, formerly called the Carlisle Arms, was brought before the Lord Mayor on the charge of having feloniously received a Bank of England note for 20/., knowing that it had been stolen. Mr. \Vontner appeared for the prosecution ; Mr. Hobler for the prisoner. Mr. Wontuer said the case presented some curious circumstances. The lady who was robbed upon this occasion had been followed by three persons of her own sex, one of whom was a little girl, through whose un suspected instrumentality the other two contrived to get possession of her pocket-book, containing 551., part of which was the 201.-note in question. The prisoner kept a house which had been notorious for the entertainment of swell mobsmen, skittle sharps, card sharps, and thieves of a great variety of degrees and descriptions, and he had acted in such a manner in the transaction, which would be represented by the evidence as having taken place at his house, as to leave no doubt of his knowledge of the way in which those he assisted had obtained possession of the property. Evidence having been adduced, The Lord Mayor remanded the prisoner, but said he would accept two good bail in the sum of 50!. each, upon 24 hours' notice to Mr. %Vontner. GUILDHALL.—Sir Peter Laurie said he had re ceived another circular enclosed in a letter, of which the following is a copy, from a Mr. Adshead, of the Strand " 53, Strand, Aug. 7. " Sir,—The enclosed circular from Mr. Mark,' whose attempts to extort money from the unwary you have already so properly exposed, was rec e i ve d h ere ye terclay morning. is. was paid for the postage, and my reason for troubling you with it is that you may make it as public as possible, which is the only way to put a check to the imposition. "Please to observe that the date varies a little, being the 21st of July, and not the 13th, as in the former eases. "I am, sir, with great respect, your most obedient servant. " EBENEZER ADSHEAD. _ . _ "Sir Peter Laurie, &e." Mr. Martin, the chief clerk, said he h a d a l so rece i ve d a similar circular from Mr. Henry Adams, of 18, Ches ter-street, Kennington-lane. Sir P. Laurie said he perceived that, as in all the other cases in which the Yankee Joseph Ady sought to swindle London tradesmen, the postage was unpaid until the circulars were taken in by those to whom they were addressed. The blue official-looking seal on the envelope would be quite sufficient, after these exposures, to in form the public of the contents of such letters, and he was not sure that a good result would not ensue from an application made by those who had been victimised to the Postmaster-General for the return of the postage on these circulars ; but lie considered the most effectual means of punishing the man " Mark" were in the hands of the Post-office authorities, who, he thought, had the power to refuse payment of the postage to the American authorities. BOW-STREET. —ll tzry Aan Church, who has been convicted of felony at least 50 times, was charged with robbing a foreign gentleman, named Roder, of half-a cro Vl7n. Mr. Hall—Were you sober, sir ? Prosecutor—Yes, certainly. Mr. Hall—You must be a foreigner, then? Prosecutor—l am a German. Mr. Hall—Ab, that accounts for it. If you bad been an Englishman you would have been drunk, for a cer tainty. (A laugh.) Prosecutor (smiling)—The Germans get drunk some times, I fear. Mr. Hall—Yes, after they have resided any time in this country. They acquire our English habits. (Laughter.) The prisoner was committed for trial. MARLBOROUGII-STREET.---Entma Eppelein, wife of the porter of the Prussian Minister, was brought be fore Mr. Bingham, charged with stealing a diamond ear-ring of the alleged value of 6,000 dollars. The complainant, a little foreign woman of shabby ap pearance, said, about three weeks ago she went to the residence of the Prussian Minister to ask for some assist ance. She saw the porter, husband of the prisoner, and told him her errand. In the course of conversation she mentioned that she had a diamond ear-ring, a sort of heirloom, with her, which she had vainly attempted to dispose of to the Baroness Rothschild. She showed the jewel to the porter, and the porter said, as she had such a valuable piece of property with her, she had better go with him and remain with his wife until she could finish her business. Complainant consented to that arrangement, and she slept with the prisoner for several nights. The prisoner was informed of her pos session of the ear-ring, and knew where it was. The jewel was in a poc k et -b oo k , wh i ch she a l wa y s kept in a pocket in her dress. On Saturday last the prisoner pretended to doubt that she had shown the ear-ring to the Baroness Rothschild, and the co mplainant said sh e would satisfy he r in' the morning. Complainant did produce to the prisoner a certificate to that eaoFt e and -----"--"---....--..."' Tt kg ,:' then she went upstairs to put on her gown. ''''l - and pocket-book bad ;, appeared. She accused the prisoner of the theft'. s p h ia e min OLCU t p h i a e d d stowmoeddaiyffiscaufltteyr i tnh prisonere finding robbery, The p o liee-eonstable said the left the ledg'ir Mr, Bishop, the magistrate's clerk, a sked 103 ' the value of the ring ? {or ill The complainant said she wanted 6,000 dollars having refused 5,000 dollars in Leipsic• t i.l/P The • prisoner admitted that the coroplaivan _.,0 with . her several nights, and that had an no Mnr.i.soner— with her, said to be a diamond, but h . ch 131 ' w 1 t i : i n days un e e aer the 10r.3 2 TI Prisoner—The r n o o s. know. d : .... r _. to be crystal by a jeweller. . ptl: - 51 . Bingham—But how did this ear•ring dog Prisoner—her out. .. i of you r Bingham—And why did you leave you and WO itot" ' Mr. B . Ingham consented to take bail for the Fr appearance on a future day. not j : un it irni:e°f'eut. ' '°:l COUNTRY if AKICSTS ~ DERBY SMITHFIELD. —A"' ' 0 tr'''' There was but a moderate supply of with a full attendance of buyers; the denl an if e cted' i rt somewhat improved, and a clearance wag e st , ' supply of sheep and lambs was fully theism vr",:' ptP fat lorl or 0 1 0 : lily disposed of. Fat and store calves pfu` I, numerous. -n f Wa til li The following were the quotations :-- -- l e g,i g , ,I mutton, 63d to 7d ; lamb, 7d to 7id ; v e n 510 1 " ) , lb. ; pigs, Os 3d to 9s 6,1 per score ; rough ' fri a l l . per 141 b. ; hides, '4l to 4d per lb ; alf' sj....-9' per lb. a S. EDINBURGH osHustpiGpglilyfianldNs.2-7-1.eA.5...15.:a a 4141.1 Wheat .......... IA - 0 Barley 3BB qrs ............... 50? A 90(1 0 Oats 5Ol qrs ............... sold '414 Beans 124 qrs ............... v i c i l B. ' b ATERAGES PER IMPERIAL 0 443/ I% )t l ' Wheat £3 17 6 o.lt 'll ' Barley Oats l3 10 0 0. Beano -- sO BOSTON—AuG. S. for - V theAremwoadseraante extremely uantitof h w e h av e y a t ( e i n e laleaffne"r , t 0 "7 0 0 , t i l i e co A and / io v : , ' transactions that occurred we note price , ~,, 0 , ',0:' instances, 3s per qr. under last week's currt,' Aer 3 corn the supply was unusually small, and Pr i " - nisl 'V', out alteration. , ~,li i te; lr, Prices :—Wheat, red, 70s Od to 75s 0 0 ;„',..4 0 , 0 " li' 77s Od , extra, 70s Od. Barley, --s Od ; ....o v" 26s to 30s. Beans, 462 Od to 48s Od. re''' per qr. 1.4 Of NEWARK-4-17G. 8. tterici 0 At our market to-day there was a goo--. s t .i e bo ° in consequence of unfavourable weathe r 11 " done. Wheat 2s lower. Tie 0 Wheat, white 82s to 84s, red 76s to 78S; a b -: to 5 2 ' 0" —s to —s, grinding 34s to 3(;s; oats, 24st. " ° p; r 31s to 33s ; beans, 48s to Ws ; malt, 683 465; tares, —s to —s per qr. SEABORNE MAILS _ ono (N Bight fl e a that the mails are sent from the/)6I by the night—and M by the morning--elesPat6l‘ oy tne nignt---and 31 coy tile morning—tiersw• --- r'. l . 1 el 11 0 1 COUNTRIES. Day when mad. .7l' I r in lI ; 'P , in General Post- ' t oo' Office, London. * i 01911',, Arnerica(byßrit.pack)N Every Friday .l i f.,lia" - ,yi' Americr. (by United Sts. i Lire packet) ..........N America (by U. States , , , Hi gol t1t _ 1::: ; :t: ' • I ' packet) ..........N Australia (via •South ampton) ..........M .. Do"' e l f Ditto (via Marseilles) Ni• Ditto (via Cape of flood ! 1,01,, Hope) ............N1 ..... ••.• • •1 „ o utl , .. Africa (West Cout) ..N l 23d of the month -IVY'', „..' . Alexandria .... .. .. .. Nig, 9, 24, & 30 of 0J•1P°1,11313,P.tt.14., Alexandria........ „Ai I4th & 20th of mon. Sou' h oP• . r Bahamas .........,,mll7th of the montb!Soa t ", .....,.'''r,li ' Belgium .......... „NI Daily ............ID ol % l oi , v o Brazil ........., ~ ~ NI ,9th of the month ..ISou t ,„" i for,t ° : 0 Buenos Ayres ........M '9th o; the month.. Sou'''.,.po l * • Cape of Good Ilope ..N vo w.- Cape of Good Hope ..N filne Cape do Verds .......ly 9th of tb3 month ii)u tli r e Ceylon (see India) to" Ceylon ...... ~ .„ .... N I „oaP i , Channel Isles... ~N Mon ~Wed.,&FriA. I SOu t h " A aie Chili.. ,•• •• ........m !id * rth ~ f roontl.iPu t " China ... . ,Once a month.... I ~...4,D 4o lr Constantinople ......, 8,13,18,23,&260i ... , roqop , r .. Constantinople 4th & 20th of m0n.'30," , „ 'l o ,e, Cont. of Europe M & N Twice daily . ..... ' DO' .1 11 I , 14v Egypt (see India) „•• o p, Franco ........ M & N Twico. daily...—. IDOI,OI I ' I Gibraltar ..........M 4, 7,17, 20, 27 of m Sou th Greece (see India) I Ø P4')° • at I Greytown .. ..... ... M 2nd & 17th of men. gon dol ~i Ol l Hamburgh ..........N Tuesday & Friday L°' l ,ol3 l P ,P Havannah .......... Ai 2nd of the month '5011 , ',,„ ~.' 1 Holland ............MiDa11y...... „ .... ' D o 'l o oll l . Honduras ..........Mll7th of the month. 1 4011 ,, t ' at ) , India (viaSouthampt.)Mt4th & 20th of mon. PIP,'",. „." f gr' India (via Marseilles)M pth& 25th of mon t1i,D05,,..,..' 1 4 ,6 lonian Isles (see India)l7, 17, & 27 of mon Postod ',',4" Ireland ........M & N Twice (lady ~ ..., j.101i ii ", 0 0 1 2 . ,, 11 Lisbon. ..... ........ Id i 7, 9, 17, & 27 of m. Sou t , n or ,l Madeira ............m l 9th of the month s oo * - ,.,00 1 '' . 1 Madeira .......... .„ ''23d of month .... LW" I ~ Malta (see India) V I .0' 18, &28 of mon. Doc"' ) I # l •1 • e i Mexicox,tu Malta r tt . . . . . . . . . . . . ..IN ; 8, ,iMauritiusg. . : (see :. . . .. India).. ...ter, .... xt .tc 2 1 t 4t i h o o f f t thh,om month.ont 1 so 0 0 i i al r , ,i ~, I, " ' ver "'GOO Naples ...... ........Nlsthlhth2sthofmon.,ipo ,op New Granada --Poi% & 17th of month ISOul,O Pa r , , New Zealand 11 1 ,.y private ship .• IN l6 ' - r ••" o s Papal States ........ ithlath2sthofmon.lDoliour, "40 Peninsula ..........M ithl7th27thofmon. l s ost psalPV Peru ............ ~.M 2d & 27th of mon.,Seolnas Pv' Port Natal ..........N By private ship... lo '2;f .•'' 4 / Sicily ..............N sthlatll2.stholmon,l, ~.h.,';,lr Tuscany •• .. •.......N , sthlsth2sthofmon.lDolor Venezuela .... it '2cl & 17th of month So I 1 ypt Van Diemen's La . nd (so, , tg° je Australia) fltll lol rO, 1 , Wo t Indies .. .. .. .. M 123 !"., 17th o i month S - ill , • or , ~1 05 . ,; A , trie o ft l 2ltor ,'ceptie b eri or will iffe., TITS Psfo(l {ADVERTISEMENT.] TIIE WAR IN TII- q 11 . ,, 0 PATENT RECONNOITRING GLASSES.— MOSSTS. '-'3,1011.0 e pr mons, opticians, 39, Albemarle-street, F icc gAi eg o l 'o4 4' -- opposite the York Hotel. By b er ,y 0 , 3 , 1 ,0,00, 4 ' Letters Patent for valuable and CIt1110Tdill'":4, t"; ar,, in the most powerful and brilliant Telescor-,,, O' c e V' course, Opera, and P erspec ti ve Gl asse s, to l' 4 ,„ 1 11 p ortl o cl' e . , , !'' of objects view e d th roug h th em — o f groat LSO! 00, filo army, navy, and others. These telescopos,-.151 Porli t .s ordinary powers that some 31 inches, w'' 0 4 cy t ti piece, will show distinctly Jupiter's Inel e lesi c ;V ai ;o ll , f r and the double stars ; with the saw° 'd A ,V'sP' seen a person's countenance three miles a il .., of i' - i,Det' ll o i and an object from 16 to 20 miles. They 3 '"oll 11 ,0 ,r,e, sizes, with increasing powers accordingly ; 4 0 ° ',11 1 1 1 ing crom 4 to 6 inches enable us to disco s. " i s : c. - of l e, above, and the Georgian, with his 6 satelliO s iob 'Ol . , Exhibition, 1851.—Valuable, newly-l o , e „ond„Z powerful waistcoat-pocket glass,the size 0 1 ',, o t ; Ar o - 0 ,0 0 : a person can be seen and known 1i miles di 7i - 10 or to 1' 4 4,,,,, every purpose on the race-course, and at ~,' t 9 ' . t r e, d - i country scenery, and ships are clearly sc e , - tr ilig4 d r They are invaluable for shooting, deer-stn o 4 ioV e ., sportsmen, gentlemen, gamekeepers, an d m AP ? Ojeti l ) race-course, camp, and perspective glas s :;ca ° d e gs power.—Newly-constructed Spectacle L e 'afeo' - ioi 01 to est transparent power. The valuable A . ..dog ,re c from this invention is, that vision bee °w go d 4 9 p,4 6 preserved and strengthened, and ve i l c e k e6t ,- - d 91 , enabled to employ ,their sight at the --- ti 11 - e ot N: pation—can see with these lenses of A ri f:eil i L o ced ing power—and they do not require the, Ao lsv - e s'4; to the dangerous effects of further poworfn't r,,lr at ol,,i , r els—New Discovery.—The Organic "Nrib rA o feol . l 4 biP , P,' ; l nary powerful, small, newly-invented instro_, an 0°, 4 ,4 entirely different from all others, to aurPas; b, e r o i? kind that has been, or probably ever, pot P e f c ceb,e,ti Being of the same colour as the skin, , s - t om : ,,e'pov; l enables deaf persons to hear distinctly' '' o f oh - 0 0 0e' - public assemblies ; the unpleasant s ensatW i r ds t o tlr in the ears is entirely removed ; and it of f° Albov anco that possibly could be desired. 3 , 9 'siretol' Piccadilly. 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I , e x v cl ' 9 s . j o o Capt. Henry Ly;ter, R.N. On the 2 .th nit., at Balaklava, of fb vel. il E 8 c 1 " bility, Henry Lambert Brisbane Bay 33. Commissary -General to H.M. Forces, So -11 ° /1(1