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not in attendance at present, but if it was their pleasure he would, in the absence of the witness, now deliver in the Diploma of the Order of St. Caroline to the House. Here a long conversation took place between Lord RedeAdale, Lord Holland, Lord Lauder and the Lord Chancellor—after which, The Loan CHANCELLOR' declared, that no :hi-rig would do unless the diploma itself was pro daced by Lieutenant Ilownam. CONININSION. Margness .of .LANsnowN now informed their Lordships, that he understood it to be the wish of the Secret Committee appointed to in -I..t.,trigate the Correspondence between Mr. Powell and Col. Browne, and who were to assemble in The Earl IThirshal's room, that Mr. Powell should immediately he called to the Bar, in order to pocl'ace that correspondence to the House. Mr. Po wzr.r. was then called to the Bar. The Loin CBANcELLoa.—Q. Are you prepar ed with these 'Papers, ..Mr. Powell, which were to be produced by order of this louse I am,•my Lord. May: I be permitted to add, tbut in my former objectior, 1 felt no perSonal coasiderLtio'ns, but acted froai a sense, I hope nct erroneon , , of what I owed to the character in I stood. The ?krcriess of LANDOWN said, be wished Mr. Powell to state distinctly what those Papers - -The Earl of LAUDERDALE was of opinion that if:their Lordships would recollect the question Fit:to Mr. Powell, and his answer to it, when he was formerly at this Bar, the House might be sa- LiYfted with them. I`b Earl of CARNARvoN had understood that their Lordships did not intend to go into any in quiry now, but would be satisfied with the Ex tracts from the Corr'espondence to be produced be Mr. Powell. • ___ he Earl of LAUDERD ALE, in explanation, did net himself wish for the whole of the corres pondence now, nor did he conceive it proper to ask Mr. Powell any more questions now, as their Lordships had devolved that duty on their Secret Committee, and therefore this business was not now before the House. .The Earl of LIVERPOOL hoped that this con versation would go no further, if it was only to save their Lordship' time, and therefore that they would not ask Mr. Powell any questions at present. The Order of the House on this subject WAS positively made; anti if the Secret Com rdittee should - not be satisfied with the Extracts of. Papers which were offered them, it was their business to call for more information. The Earl of DARNLEY would protest against the doctrine just laid down by the Noble Earl opposite ; he must contend that their Lordships bad now a perfect right to question the Gentle man at the Bar, if they thought proper, and to inquire the nature of the Papers, which were produced by order of the House. Lord RED ES DA LE, as we understood him, agreed with the Noble Earl near him (Liver pool), and thought that all investigation had de volved on the Secret Committee. The Marquess of Loi Ns DOWN then moved that Mr.. Powell should he ordered to attend the Se cret Committee that day, on the adjournment of house.--Mr. Powell withdrew from the Bar. DEFENCE OF THE QUEEN. ,M. Tomato Lugo Maggira, one of the Wit nesses for the Defence, was now called in, and thereupon sworn. _ _ Examiner] by Mr. W ILDE. Q. Your name is M:Tornazo Lago Maggira ? --A-. Yes. Where do you lire whon residing in your own place ?—I lici near the town of Como. . What - occupation 'du you follow there ?---I am a fisherman. Were you ever at any time employed in the capacity of a boAtman.by the Princes, of Wales ?—Yes, I was. D. you know a person of the name of ?—Yes, I do. Of what occupation was he ?-1 - le is a humble Fisherman, as Faru. Were you erot• inn hoar with the Princess of Wales, when Bergarni was also. there?-1 hare been. • DLL you ever see either of those persons kiss each other in the boat ?—No. In what - part of the boat did her Royal Highness sit, when jun attended her ?—On the left. Did you sit in such a situation as to be able to see her Royal Highness ?—I flad the boat any lights in it ?—lt had. Di.l you yourself sit in such a situation that if her Royal Highness and Berganii had kissed each other you must rwcessarily have seen them ?—I did. Have you any doubt, or are you quite sure that you never sa.s , any such kissing take place? here the SOLICITOR-GENERAL took an objection tot his qu'esiiort, as implying the witness's opinion of a matter not ss-rictly on oath. . Mr. WILDE argued in support of the question he had put, and the Solicitor-General repticd to hint. 'it- LORD CHANCELLOR then observed, that if the wit ness gave an answer to the question in any stay, he must be taken as having sworn positively to it. Examination resumrd. How many times hare you conducted her Royal Highness the Princess of Wales front the Theatre at Como to the Villa d'Este ?—tiome ten or twelve times, or even more. .. • ~ ...toss-examined by She SoLICITOR-GENtRAL. Q. Will you swear positively that you have not conducted her [total Highness twenty times from the Theatre at Conto to tile Villa trE,te ?—(t might be still more, but I cannot tee:direct how many times. . . How many boatmen were present in the boat, when you condo'cted her Rural Highness in the manner you depose so? --There were generally ten. Was this after the Theatre was orer at Como?--Yes, ki‘inzht her Royal Highness hack to the Villa d'Este. Was this then at night ?—lt was in the evening. Here . the Interpreter told their Lordships that the witness tnertnt to say it was night. Was that.part of the boat where her Royal Highness was separated from the part where the boatmen sat ?—The boat was nll joined, there was no nivision, but only in the middle of it. Did her Royal Highness and Bercami sit upon one side of that division, and the boatmen on the other?—The boatmen svcre in the tore part ofthe carriage, and her Royal Highness and flergami were behind. If I understand what von mean by the carri age , an d t h e po sitifin of her Royal Highness and Bergami in it, you say some boomer; sat on one side, and some on the other side ?—Y e s. Was there any kind of covering on that part of the b oa t where her Royal Highness and Bergami •;,t?—lt was covered at the top, and there were glasses in front and behind. Were there any curtains their ?—There.was one in front, bur nine behind the boat, Itemise there were glasses there. Were those glasses in front ?—Yes. Who generally sat in tire carriage of the bat with her Royal Highness and Bergami ?--For the most part there were the Magistrate, and a Servant, and a Musician, and somebody else. Did Berg f mi and her Royal Highness sorhetimes go al""e in the boats carriage from the Theatre to Villa d'Este ? Newer, and the host was al ways'full of Gentlemen. Will - you undertake to swvar that the boat was always full of Gentlemen in going•'fioni the Theatre to Villa d'Este ? -Yes. Where did the Mogistrate, or Prefect lire ?—He lived a Como. Did you mean to say, that the Prefect bad accompanied bcr Royal Highness from the Theatrt to Vlll d'Ftte erery night? I cannot say that he always did, but for the most part there were Gent lemen in the boat. Witness was left under, examination when our Reporter left the Howe. PRICE OF STOCKS TIIIS DAY AT ONE O'CLOCK. 3 per Cent, Red. Grill d d iiii Long Ann... 171 7-16ths 3 per Cent. Coos 4 per Cents i per Ct. Navy Alin. 1031 104 I (Minium Payment ....2i di:. 103/ 1 Coos. tor Account ____ THI47, SUN. SOLI Y OUtzi DiCERE FALSUM AUDEAT ? LONDON , SATURDAT, OCTOBER '2l, 1820. The transactions developed in the course of the Proceedings against THE QCT,EN, have excited disgust in all the sounder part of the People, and the duration of the Ttial is likely to exhaust their patience. There seems to be more COM DIDD sense, with a due regard to substantial jus tice, and the dignity of the august Tribunal, in the opinions of Lord DONOUGHMOHE, than in those of every other Peer, not immediately con nected with Government Ministers are deli cate and reluctant to utter their sentiments freely, because their own conduct is concerned in the institution and event of the Trial. Lord DONOUGIIMORE speaks like an independent and itnt;artial Judge, who has nothing in view but the discovery of truth, and the adminis tration of substantial justice. His Lordship justly observed, that 'the charge of Conspiracy had nothing to do with the main purpose of the Inquiry, viz. the guilt or innocence of the accused Party. Is the mass of the evidence to be rejected because some of the witnesses may 'have been corrupt ? Has not enough heen . brought forth to justify a satisfactory decision one way or other ? We say, Yes, without saying on which side we determine, leaving that to the wisdom and justice of the Legislature. It is natural that the Coun sel for the accused, should endeavour to mpg& the House, as they apparently attempted to do, on the alleged Conspiracy, but the judgment of the House properly put an end to that technical subtlety. But the world has now made up • its mind, and is itnpatiett for the result. In our humble opinion, it is full time to proceed to judgment, and in that opinion we confidently believe we are supported by all wise and honest men. A Morning Paper, uni versally despised for the gross and atrocious part which it has taken in this lamentable busi ness, one of the most unfortunate that ever befel the Country, says, in reference to the Secret Committee, formed for the examination of the correspondence between Colonel BROWN and Mr.Powtm,, " What eqUivalent she (the QUEEN) or her Counsel is to derive from the labours of a Secret Committe, it is not easy in this stage of the business to perceive ; however, thanks to ALMIGHTY GOD, her case stands in need of no such aid !" We shall' make no comment on this conscious falsehood, and shocking impiety, but leave the guilty Paper to the abhorrence and execration of mankind. We received this morning the Paris Papers of Tuesday and Wednesday last.—The following are extracts : 4 • Ocr. IB.—Yesterdays Sir Charles Stuart, the Eng lish Amb-assador, ptrsentrd to the King, at a pi ivate audience, the answer of his Sosereign to the notification of the birth of the Dut,eof Bordeaux. The sillier Ambassadors anti Poreign Nlinisters paid their respects to his Majesty. The Apostolic Nuncio congratulated the Duchess de Berri, in the name of the Corps Diplomp i tigios. "The Count de \Valterstorf, the Danish Minister here, died last 'Friday. " The king gave private audiences yesterday to the Mar quess de Bormay, the Prussian Ntinister, and to M. Hyde de Neurille„Aarbassador to the Court of the Brazils. " L'in , ficateur of Bordeaux states, on the authority of a Private letter from Madrid, dated the 511 . 1 inst., that in the Sitting of that day the Cortes approved of the Treaty, respect ing the cession of the Fluridas to the United States, almost unanimously. " According to the Nritpolitan .Journals, P4d gave in his resignation sit the Command in Chief of the Neapolitan Army, on the 2911 nit., the ese of the opening of the Parliameht, and that it had been accepted by the Mow. " M. I-lvde de Neuritic., bcfme Koing' to the Brazils, pro ceeds to Washington, to terminate the negociatiuns respect ing commerCe. FIVE PER CENTS. Tuesday 75 f. c. DEFERRED STOCK Of the 22d .larch, 1817 lO4 f. 35 c. 22t1 Sept., 1820 92 f. 45 c. EXCHANGE OS LONDON. • One Mf.nth OCT. 4.---I'he Parliament was formally opened on the Isi inst. bna Spet•ch (ruin the Throne, which, by desire of the King, was read bs, the Prince Vicar-General, who also afterwards delivered a short speech in his own name. The President delivered an address to the King, at the end of which General I'4p4 tendered his resignation of the command in chief of tl,e arriV, which the King accepted, at the wale time assuring the General of his satisfaction with his con duct. The whole took place amidst the gi cat est enthusiasm, and shoots of Lang live the King, • Long live the Prince. I:a.sNiirotti, OCT. 13 —lmmediately after the arrival of a Courier, Mr. Lamb, English Minister to the Dirt, set out for Carlsruhe fur the purpose, as believed, 01 inducing the de parture for England ofthe Chamberlain D'Ente, as a witness in the affair of the Queen." New York Papers arrived this morning to the 14th ult., and Halifax to the.2lst. (From the New York Paper of the 12/11 September.) Buenos Ayres was in a very dreadful state ; no security to either property or lives, as there are scarcely flee persons of the same sentiments, and no one can tell who governs, — There was an Army encamped before Buenos Ayres, said to be composed of about 900 men ; Gt nem' Loerz, the Gover not of Santa FY, has about 6000 men; General I Ales ERAi has 350 discontented Chi Mans ; ALviAtt„ about 40 or 50 of ficers, formerly its Buenos Ayres service. Loeez and CArtae -54,55 proclaim their intention to be solely to put. A LVIAR at the head of the military estatdishment of the province of Buenos Ayres. On the sods LA MADRID and Roma- GUES attacked ALvtase and his confederates, and it was re ported be gained the victory. All business bas been sus pended at Buenos Ayres. • ST. JOHN'S, N. B. SEM 2.—A number of the unfortunate person s who left Europe, in Gen. DEvEneux's service, have been landed at St. 'John's, from Jamaica. They were all in the most wretched state. PHILADELPHIA, SEPT. 12.—N0 case of fever these last two days. Yesterday the Common Serjeant made a Re port to his MAJESTY in Council of the Convicts in Newg a t e , of June Session last—when Henry Marsh,‘James Marsden, and Isaac Smith were ordered for execution on Tuesday next. The others were respited during pleasure. FOR THE SUN. HOLY ORDERS MR. Eurroa,- 7 -Having offered a few remarks upon the Introduction to a pamphlet, called Episcopal Innovation, 8z.c.1 now propose to prove more particularly that there - . is no innovation in the Bishop of PETERBOROUGH'S Questions ; but that they arise from a natural anxiety to be in formed whether they who offer themselves to pray and to preach in his Diocese, are likely or not to adhere to the true sense and genuine spirit of those Articles, by which he himself and the Candidates are sworn. Endless would be the task to enter into all the minute objections that are scattered through this close printed pamphlet. The Bishop himself seems scarcely called upon, as he has not written in the form of Dogma but of Question merely ; and therefore is not responsible for any inferences which Others may draw, or any errors which they may impute to him, till the Answer to his own Questions come from his own hand, or till he condescend to assign his reasons, to which be is not obliged, for his objection to the Answers of those Candidates who have hitherto been rejected. But what might be too great a condescension in him, may be a fit subject for one, who cannot Plead his pre-eminence either in talent or in Ita lian. Not to enter, therefore, into any of the more minute objections, I will begin upon the first of the great Articles in dispute, which re lates to Original Sin. To ascertain the sense of this, as of any other Articles, we must ascertain, as far as we can, the heresy to which it is more directly opposed ; for all of them were not made at once, but as occa sion arose ; and it would be well if in every one it were as impossible as in this to mistake the particular heresy to which it is an antidote ; the poison circulated in the sth. century through se veral parts of Christendom by PELAGtUS, who, like the modern Socinian and Freethink.::r, trust ing more to his own reason than to Revelation for the truth, and prouder of his own imagination than depending upon the written word, denied Original Sin, contending that the sin of An.tm was only personal, and did not affect his poste rity, who, if they sin, but follow his example, as their standard and original. Hence the declaration of the Article,—" Ori ginal Sin standeth not in the following of ADAM, (as the Pelagians do vainly talk), but it is the fault and corruption of the nature of every man;" and that this is not to be construed into an entire depravity or mass of corruption, the Bishop very properly subjoins the words which follow in the Article, " whereby man is very far gone from original righteousness." From this, or from the state of innocence of ADAM before the fall, man may be very far gone, and yet not be im mersed in that abyss of corruption in which the fallen spirits are supposed to be, which this Au thor asserts, allotting to man what he allots to those spirits, only the faculty of reason without one particle of goodness, or the least inclination to it ; and yet it should seem, according to Scrip ture, that those spirits even believe and tremble. If, then, they have faith, how can reason be their only property ? the fact is, Gon from the first made man in his own image, which by the fall was sullied and defaced ; but still there are traces of the Divine Original to be discerned by any but those who are so deeply immersed in the darkness of total corruption, as to form in their turn GOD after their own dreary image, as they are often so justly accused. " Man is of his own nature (continues the Article) inclined, not absolutely fixed and determined, to evil—the flesh lusting always contrary to the spirit," &c. describes with ST. PAUL the nature of man, not for ever intent upon evil, but in a continual struggle be tween the good and evil lusts ; and though the heart may sometimes preponderate to evil, the scale is never so completely turned, even with the most depraved, but that the oscillation still continues, and a just balance may yet be pre served. All these strong expressions, " that there is no health in us," that " man is only given to evil thoughts and deeds," and, therefore, that " he must he born again," are only metaphorical, never intended to be taken literally, as the grosser part of mankind are apt to take them, and as Nrco numus did, when he asked, " shall a man enter again into his mother's womb, and be horn ?" and for his answer he is referred to the spiritual sense of the expression, signifying, in the most emphatic manner, the strong and urgent necessity there was for the heart of man to be renewed by the Holy Spirit, arid not that there was to be literally a new creation ; for as long as man lives, the in fection of Nature's (as the Article says) cloth remain, yea even with the regenerate, which very infection implies not total corruption, but only a stain, which, even with the regenerate, can never be entirely purified, but will be more and more, every step they advance in grace. In this life, there will always be maintained what the Apostle calls the war of the Flesh against the Spirit, which could never have begun if man were a mass of corruption only, and can never cease till the Spirit is disenthralled from the Flesh, in that other state of incorruption, when all war and strife shall cease at once. The last question on this head worth consider ing is, whether the doctrine of absolute depravity produces in general a deep sense of humility, or tends to destroy that and every other virtue ? The answer to this is obvious. In the gloomy prospect of absolute depravity, forlorn and wild, man looks down into the abyss of desolation, and turning dizzy at the sight, is reckless of all consequences, and in his own imagination, im pelled by the law of Nature, irresistible, in the horror of despair, his only resolution, like the fallen Spirits, now that he can gain no reinforce ment from hope, he plunges deeper and deeper into crime; and, if ever there should break forth a light upon his soul, thus laid in the lowest pit, it serves but to dazzle his faculties, and seduce him into the presumptuous thought, that from some sudden, instantaneous flash of conviction, he is become all at once the child of Light, and thel favourite of Heaven, not only rescued from lowest lowest deep, but raised to such a height of ', ll e r i ration, as now to be inaccessible to the Floo of darkness, and whatever may be his coaoti most infallibly assured of everlasting S alvatl°o . That this is not a mere theory of my °:/102,0 wlll appeal to the experience of many 0 ' I f • Readers, who must have met the advo cates total corruption at one time, and for final P e h r o ' it verance at another—as they delight to go avulj cobimitting havoc even in the Church — a nd ° „ s be still more triumphant, if its appointed g"ii. Watts did not occasionally raise the sacred 2 e v, e that shield of Faith, which, I trust, w ill ge l ir fail to preserve it safe from every sacrileg io3s ai trusion, and from all the malignant attacks) till rect or indirect, in Lhe Church, or o ut of A. Church, of its insidious adversaries. THE THEATRE. The interesting Play of The Stranger was r` presented last night at Covent Garden The, a ; h e Mr. C. KEMBLE, for the first time, sustain eu part of the melancholy hero of the piece• e h brother had embodied the character with W ilt if critical precision, judgment, and feeling, that t o would not have been safe for Mr. C. Ko ll3l 'Ll, depart from the accurate outline' of the origsi o t Yet it is pure justice to him to acknowledgg ster he was by no means a servile copyist, but itl v i e lie ed the part with a novel interest. It shouluile. observed, that the Stranger is not a tnisant' ir pist by nature, but that his temper has. been so o il . ed by the deepest injury that an honourahielive and . a feeling heart can suffer. He is still 9 co , to every impulse of humanity and benevolePo, and ready to hazard his own life forthe preset sie Lion of another's. This character, therefore/ c o p. not he deemed a misanthropist. It must be t ill served also, that injured as he was, he wa s ,i o o strongly attached to his wife, and hence de.i e vi t i , f is the prevalent feature of his character, e r° "t ', from that attachment. It seemed, therefer e ' 4 . be the aim of Mr. G. KENIBLE to render 11 ' 5 " c . pointment,and violated love the essential teristics. The idea, in our opinion, is j it ti J elms, and was most successfully represente u ,"o maintained throughout his performance, wil was received with great and 11a-merited !I f plause.—The new Mrs. Haller of last nig b i o r chiefly to be praised for her sensibility and p! correct idea of the part. After the won de ' o r original, Mrs. SIDDONS, and her interesting l a d cessor, Miss O'NEILL, the new candidate had cessor, powerful prepossessions to encounter, in P'", o t as well as talents. Iler face is regular, bu t to handsome. It is a folly in dramatic W r iit e ' a o describe their heroines as so beaut.ful, becausBo Actress fully qualified to render all possibigiso tice tua part may not in form and features t he cord with the imaginary standard, and henc e 0 , audience feel sonic disappointment, and cli t ig quently are - less interested. The voice o f fo r Lady is loud and harsh ; but perhaps the tre that she might not be heard in so large a T he er nduced her to strain it to too high a pitch. tio g , deportment was easy, and governed by fe f e ':, s o She had evidently many friends in the ilr/ but the general reception was very favourab'e; A new Farce followed, entitled A Race fi' ll ot Wife. It has little dramatic strength, but stg unamusing, and it derived all possible adval l 'it i g from the respective Performers. The folle°' is an outline of the Fable : % .fe Captains Rocket (JoNes) and Sonars (Asgort)rec o 0 .11 1 % ters at the same time from their respective fathers, co0:01.5V to them information that each is fixed to a wife, and CM r itti ing their immediate presence to be married. Upon coiell:cor notes, they find the same Lady named for both. ' l ° , ( 'r vt' ll ' from this dilemma they agree to make a race to Caern.iontl' where the Lady lives ; the first in to he the * JON The whole interest of the piece now rests upon tl t °O k , which are caused to the parties by Dr; (LtsTol ) :to' mutual servant, a clever fellow, who always co:000'100, bribed by both at the same time. They at last get 1°,. t ,J0 1 :1 of their journey, and Somers wins the wife, Miss .1 0- n ot sv d ,' hazard, (Miss BEAUMoNT). Rocket's motive in the was money and not love, and they clove the latiglig ° ', - perly against him as the loser, the more particularly ° c tiel% something of a sharper. lie, however, has a real alt to Phecim, (Miss Love), and joins in the general haPP the party, by being united to her. se' The piece was received with general aPI l d wo: but not without partial disapprobation,' - a" c lo a announced for repetition amidst a mingl e mour n but " the ayes had it." * FOR THE SUN. HOW TO EKE .I.—)UT A BILL. 99P i Scrap torn from an old espape of Oct. w et PAULO - ,TIDETTO bein N g w called r and eO r f t ior for the Defence, was cross-examined b 5 ney-General VE-II A RD. Q. You say that at no nte did you ever see the V on a the Defendant ?—A. I do. Q. Did you ever see the Defendant kiss the Baron • • i‘i• Q. Yon did ? When ?—A. At midnight—O. 1 1 Re-examined by Mr. BREW-'EM' Q. Pray Sitmor Vtut:Tro, can you see in the dar k Was thoonli;:ht. tss Mr. BttEw-'Em now begged leave to call another W it° , 0 ,, PHILIPP° LUNATICO examined. , 4 110 Q. Is there a MOOD in Italy ?—A. To the best ledge. tr o: Q Do you know the Man in the Moon ? This was ohiected to as a leading question. i t : be proved tl,t.th , tte is a Man in the Moon. rP' Q. Is thi..re a Man in the Moon ?—,A. Non to; ri ct) 00 ° Q. Did you ever hear that there was a Man in tV —A. Frequently. 1 tie, Mr. 13erw 'eat now addressed the House----•begtTeijui send fur the Man in the Moon—and hoped be w° l that he never saw the Baron hiss the Defendant ? s ! , co o' Coo HT.—What, dirt colitradict your own aiftvi t i Mr. BaLw 2 Em.—Oh, yes, my Lords ;, for it 1 , io S ot tradict him, and many others, I shall he dished • 0 ,0 I roust do any thing fur toy Client, or v oildfsi- 0. her ----," 0 5 Theatre/ it _ se I) ! 1, menusserramommusessossimme THEATRICAL.—TIIC Olympic T , f 0 Is not to be re-opened by Mr. ELLis . o c er t he under a new Management, and with a V of Theatrical corps. Report speaks highlYagoel9 preparations for opening the campaign. . Wit.eNcn is to be the stage-commande ss4'' Oil Thorsday, October 19, the Lady of WI I /' he Wr New Palace yard, of a son. Aft i' .111. L. .arawamMIP 0, I, A , LONDON: Printed hyJ. B. CARSTAIRS , ",r, S :I I. /V ;i0 11 Ormond -street, Queen-square; and publi" e ; Letters, &c. SCRIPPS, of No. 7, South Molton-street, a` to Office, No. 12, Strand ; where Adveitisementh (cost-paid) must be addressed, 4\' o ti ?cart, the s' vi e ; *Poe, tar t' , 1 44 7t o: 4 P r i, o the th e ' 46ce 1. 0 , 1 114 Put