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lAI PERI A PA fal AI ENT. ()USE OF LORDS, Fru DAY, MARCH 10. p7d -.l.ynedock AcaS introduced by Lord Haft (Earl of ,;:-.•,;'; and Lord Sondridge (Dulse of Argyle.) His Pa ,: Crealiou haring .naui read at the Tat!, his Lordship ;)‘.. fiaths and his seat. 640 Fees Bill was • brought up from the Commons, fv.td a first time. CORN LAWS . . L' , rd GRENvILLE - presented a Petition from tif?, :c o‘v kir respecting the Corn L tws, praying the import price inigLt lir reduced front 1.;:q1 Of LAUDEZDAT.P. objected to the Yeti receive,l, urging that it was a Petition k: ii .sr the Corti Bit!, i% Bich. xva not before the -e, arid` theret4lre, according to their. Lord ,sraf;lkiwii forms it Hot he received. IJL'I' ,i. t~~ ' .I.:OI ; IL.ORFNvILLE contended that it was a Peti• . I,to of tendency to .t hose a great number beet' laid upon the: table, it siii!"cifically a Petition' against the Coin 'it'!" the other 1-louse. , •furtlier .conversation bettveen the :At NcEr.Lotl, Lora GuENviLLE, the Earl . 07 cilia fit"; to the specific object of 10. it ion, Gi u I.LE agreed to withdraw • I.otf. (7:AI • VILLE then presented a Petition ;toy alteration in the Corn Laws from the Paris'Aes of St. James and John, Cli4ken v, di - (.:it : lied - by 9 ,(100 persons); and Petitions to the tfi, : ct trout tile Incorporation of Weavers at !asgow r LI : , ther places ; Earl STANHOPE Peti tio,l, to the ...ainc`etrect 'from St. Anne, Lime- Louse; in Yorkshire, and oziter places ; 1.: , 11, together with similar Petttions pt•esented t.h:• EIJI of SnAFTEsButtY, and. the Earl of ki*re ordered tit lie on the table. 1:arl-of CA:iLISLE made"some o)servations t!,e (urn Bill in ailow tone of ‘-oice,'which, t,s (ti as we et;u!d understand, ins Lordship de as an ill digested measure, rich was li;,ely to :carr'y confusion ..ottgli the coUntry. .t I also iiiade some obserrati:;as on ( eila (JUL the Ti)e 1:11 - [ Livt:"RpOot. said, that the prepara t:•ons iriade to preserve the peace of the metro-, .had iwco for the general welfare, it being important that the Legislature should ~,,t - he: Overakved by a 'riotous mob. Ile was at time of opinion, that they should not pt (weed at all wore rapidly on that account that 1L1...) , should, in short, regulate their conduct in fie same way as if no such fiotons proceeiings existed. With regard to the military; he assured the house that' they had not beet' called out ex ceiq whyre ab , olntely necessary. As to the Corn if lie were sat!sfied that it would benefit one las, of the community to the prejudice of an he would be ainoinzst the first to oppose. it, and it tit , ,Te Were any contlict.' of interests between ne rieh and the poor, undoubtedly the preference oilglit to be given to the latter. Still, however, li, Was convinced that some' measure of this na t.,re. tinder pr. perregillations, was necessary to true imert-sts of the consumer. 1')/$.‘ E:,rl c•t . - CARLIsi.r in explmint;on, disclaimed tney intention Of throwing an implitation upol the ow he tOott;tit. It uisite (ag we nruterNtuod) that something should he known as to the ;onot.nt to Which this measure would raise the price alt ttheat. • The Lail (it LAVDERDALE denied that, the sup porters of the measure- were called upon to state t o w l oi t amo unt it would raise the price of. wheat, a. the elfect of it niti , !..t be ultimately to lower th e prier, and there ‘vould be-no difficulty whatever in prhving !hat it would be essentially for the ad- VtiliAge of The consumer. M")TION FOR ER INQUIRY RFSPECTING TIDE CORN LAII S. Earl GRf:v, adverting to the Corn 23 11. which would probably shortly he before the House, ohsetvei that it was, ;t ,subject of peculiar deli cacy and difficulty, "acid - he thought their Lord s!tips were not possession of sufficient infortna tion to-legislate tipoicitr - witli- disc consideration, Ile therefore gave notice of a motion for further i:ltriry on this subject for 111unday, for which tic Lords were ordered to ht....so:mooned. Earl :3TANHOPE gave notice of a 'notion for Ti:ursday, for the renewal (with some technical alterations) of his IteSolittion *of last Session, with tl i t,yi e w of reconciling the littcreiits of the Cirtaer the consumer, for which day the •L'ords were oruered to be stuninoned. DANK RESTRICTION The - Bank Restriction Bill was brought up from the Commons, and on the motion Of the . Earl of V Ehl'UOL read a first time. ills Lordship gave notice of • leis inteuLiou •to move the;secornl read on "Fuesdity, tor which day the Lords -were ordered to be struirdoncd..—N4ljounied till Mondar. OF cOMAIoNS Mr. DUGDALE pres.'nted a Petition from lliviningliam,. g1,.;11,,1 by - .)(),t100 pt -nuns, 2;zl;itist the Corn Bill. Petitions `,ere from 'Alalow, and Wigtoun,. fay -Ur of the ; from New NViiidsor, Chelsea, Eradford, and Wottier the latter signed by 6000 persons', against the Bill. j -1I \W presented a similar Petitiori from A Mg:oe, SMU' fro:ti Ciaterbaq, and Mr. 11ARGL.IY t1:0 i.;LiAt.uf Lo r .i pr....st , nted a Pet:tit - in from the-Chemists 1,/.., , ,:,i,t,cazaia.st the :11tot1...e.,ries' .sir JO; presented Pelitl3n in favour of which he s.4id was sii;ited b'. ICI thy Co:timer - !t . foril", e , ,,,. .)t. one individa : ;31 1 11.%ItING II at it Wa s fit the '1.! , ,u , e Otould . - uttle:; tvc:;,l:::..ww:: One to this Pet . , Water :o;J e:-;.zeedi;1• : :!-; interested the - Export:Li:jou. of and the pelitiot.et-:; were, nt fact the persons cxportlition. , Sir'J:)! ' N it wiis tcp impute such the c:miti.vi ( cial 11,,u..4. of V..tatu - curt.l: it tuitztit !..:e tn:lt Pvtitioncrs SII London ;nportatz,,n Cora. conli,l not toulting upon it, ow , :~lilt. tit• two coutltries ti.at of out; country was the in- ~•. j/ i 1.., :. .. h quo,' '; vii!' as an 1r Vic • ft. 11. Pane';, the Petitlon '„eas' ••11 i'r , prestmted ‘t, ,\(:1. ; \ Pvt;tion: f , om "D?vonshife ttl favour u,st.; . ved, that it' the country t i. e were niove:::!),,,tricgpo,,f mit of e.inpioyawnt larrxt Evet!Jam c;71); ;II 17 . :.‘ ... firC 1 Staauti was :MTN. tfrat . the wi n hi r )1 - tiR: ci . ; ,:.uyilittit of larnii,:g pre, , I'L Laonvli cc•a- Glasgow had cha4ed his opinions on this suhjict. Ali! FINLAY-denied that tie had coanged his (~:iai„ns: he bad all along thought sus to big!) a io-uce.. E*Ti'll INSTEIt Sir. Btape iaise pr,sent ;he Westmin ster Petition against the torts Laws, signed leY 41,473 persons. 7 .1 e woind aake tins opportunity of correcting d nosrepresentaPion that had, gone abroad, that he was supporter of the Coin BM. It was, anti him always been -iris pi inciple, that • Government alone was intell'ied io carrying this meastne . ; that it arose out of the unna tural mid excessive state ot taxation ; that, if proper means Ott redniqhni had been resorted'to, there could be no pretelice for a Bill which was now wanted to noLter up a corrupt system of adminis tration. Heatinerea with hisconst intents, nor aS to the propriety of the measure, Inicas to the inn-, tility of petitiouing. It certainly nas a grLat pay, that the punlic imiienation shonld he directed against indixidlials titIlip0111;(1 this measure ; he_had_emleavoured to impress oil the minds of his follintilent s, that the principal object to • which their 'attention .'iouldhe directed,- ivas the (affront. state of the representation of the country. Sorne persons had pretended ttt .s.iy of hint, that he had suffered'. his private:.ioterest to stifle the public interest, and that the Patriot ; was merged in the Lanni-owner. It wars unpleasant to talk. of himself, bin he milting say, that this mea sure, whether carried or defeated,- would. 'mike to differtuce to bitn. His estate had always'. been . on what miglitoe called a peace-establish;- ment,•and his system. had always contemplated' permanent rather . than rinctuatiog rents. Whe ther, -there!ore, a,price of , 80. s. or Is. was fixed, or no shillings at all, he should not raise or lower his rents one farthing. Ile was surprised that Gentlemen in discussing this wiestion seemed to think that there was niefrely a choice of evils, and debated merely what price should be fixed. He thought that stieli a discussion was idle and na . gatory, and that the matter to be conswereu was, what %vas the ori4in of such a measure at all ?' Whatever-might be the Opinion of other Gentle men, his Own drcided opinion wits, that the sub ject was nitituateiv connected with a reform . iu Parliament, for it sprung solely trout the corrupt start; of the Representation. Nobleman (Lord Grenville) in another place had, with the true IMings o f an lialgaishman, exaressed his astonish ment that Ule Nation could acouiesee it: such an enormous Peace Establishment-, which must lead to a military deispotisin'; and that if such was.t he case, he should no longer take his place merely, for the purpose,of going through the empty forms of debate. ludeed it was- futile and absurd to conic down to the House to discuss what would of coarse be settled by .a Ministerial majority, when it was known that the Noble Lord xvlio sat opposite . (and not merely the Noble Lord, but whoever was in office) was, as Minister, clothed with the infallible mantle of a Pi ophet, and all were ready to bow to him as to an Oracle'. As. to his own opinion on the present measure he firmly belie d that his constituents would des pise him, if he shoal(' vote against his judgment ; if he had been disposed to suppoit the measure, he ishould have done it without ttesitation : and it his electors tool disopprovcd of conduct, lie would not continue tO inipoNe lihnself upon them tinder the privilege of the unconstitutional Septennial Act, but would immediately resign his o.nation into their hands. He mast 116 ; tV expreis his hor ror at the system which had been adopted of fill ing houses with soldiery, who fired in ambush-up on the crowds before them : ill the deaths snoc casioned were legal murders, The constitutional civil farce should have been called out for the protection Of the town, iastead of surrounding it tvith troops like a beSieged city. No man could walk the streets of a night avithout .hazard, on account of the Military. Thee.e appeared tO him to have been no justificatory cause for. shooting the 11.lidshipman the other evening.-- The military force should hare been displayed, and not hid in ambuscade. No man ever put spring-guns or steel-traps into his grounds With-' out giving the notice, and yet in this case soldiers %vere placed in houses, not only without notice,. but so concealed, as to invite rather than deter an attack. Hp had'hiniself been misrepresented as a • friend of the Cdru Bill, aad, therefore, might have been exposed to assault ; but he would. prefer for .see his house razed to the ground, to having re course to unconstitutional means of defending it. But what was the cause of all these disturbanees - ? Why was it that the people paid no respect to, larg,e majorities in the House of Commons It was.beeaase they felt that they were not properly represented; for it they were once. 'assured that the House was constitutionally appointed, they . would readily believe tl.nit its decisions contem plated only the public good. At the same iiiue he must say, that he thought great mistakes had pre vailed on both sides, as to the evil or good of this measure. The labouring claases were mistaken if they thought that they would be affected by the mea sure, for t he i rwages cvolOrt . olcourse . r;se propor- ... tin!) to theprice of food. The landed intereSt e too, (against whom the nmst . unjuSt imputations were east), were equally mistaken if they thought that .any advantage could accrue from this. litigator) , protection. For his part lie %visited to see no pro tection afforded to any . particular branches': all should be regarded with au equal and impartial eye, for no greater caiatitity could arise than from arraying one interest against another, as if the monied, the commercial, the mamifact wing, -and the agricultural interests, were different and oppo site things. lie was sort y that the country gentle men had suffered themselves to be cat's-paws in the hands of the Ministers towards the support of a . measure which was exclusively for the benefit of Government. For his eeiini part, ha saw Inc) re medy for this anti other evils, but the renovation of the Constitution of the countr. • Ron;::se:: rose under an evident depression of spirhs,whiell sunk and enfeebled his utterance .;• he proceeded as follows :—'' I never, S;r, rose with feelings so oppressed and embarrassed as 1 now labour tinder. I should be divested of every I leeling which characterises a Gentleman and au hontst man, if I were not deeply interested in the unfortunate transaction to which' the honourable Baronet has so pointedly alluded. I do assure that Hon: Baronet he ti.xtremely mistaken, if he supposes that I planted atraMbuseade of soldiers In my house ;:or the ptirposc of 'shooting at the • placed in ambuscade ; they wire inside, 't is true, because, if outside, there would have heel, no. protection. My house, on the first nii..;litT,was three times entered by the .poliillace-(llear !) Those who were within were moniew.arily ex.pos ed toidestruction : pr operty ntv was at the mercy , of tne riotoes int roders—and nothing; hitt the slid den presence ()elite militariprevente7l its destruc tion on that occasion. —(Bear, hear !),--1 would ;to that destruction of property, but 1 greatly tea:, that those who remaiaed with it would ii, ye equal Victims to popular violence, and the lives of lay servants would haverbeen SA crificed in the atteMpt.(Hear, hear !) No soldiers • were in toy !Louse on the first night ; from what hen took place,.l felt it my duty to remove my family to some safer asylum—tor there tta . l' had no protection. My servants were theft attacked, and threatened with death if they refused to tell where I was. They risked their lives in this attachment to me. Alv house was again beset--4bose poor and faithful creatures said their lives were of no value. I did then think it essential they should recei..e some further protection ; besides, the house is not mine, and being but a temporary re sident, I thought it the more my duty to protect it, and applied to the Secretary of State for that purpose. Some soldiers were then sent, and here again, Sir, I protest against their being placed in ainbuscade."—(The Right Hon. Gentleman was here so overrjowered with his feelings, that he was obliged to submit to a momentary pause.)—He resumed—" :Ishey were not so placed - : they came, •aS well as my servants, - to the windows of the house, which were assailed and broken in by re peated assaults ; they entreated the assailants, long before a shot was fired, to desist—to take care what they were about,. and not to risk the consequences—(Loud cries of heat', hear !)—. and, it was not until those inside were threat ened with' the actual' visitation of immediate danger, that for their own personal safety the shots were fired. When the Honouratle Baronet talks of the Inquest, and•seems to quote it as his authority, he appears to forget -.hat that Inquest is not yet over—(Loud cries of Hear, bear !) he f - e'wgets that its proceedings are still pending, and that it has. not arrived to any sen tence—whatever that sentence maybe, 1 can as sure the Hon. Baronet it will be no less painful. to my feelings. I. therefore conjure that • Hun. Baronet, if he values the peace of society, for which he professes so deep an interest, to ..thstain from statements which can only operate to • the, further inflammation of the people, and to the still • greater endangering those lives- for Which he feels so warm an interest.—(Loud cries of. Hear !) From the circumstances, Sir, in which this ques tion has placed me, I am, perhaps, more than . • any other nem exposed . to popular fury. What ever be my fife in the result of the measure itself, it is my consolatory reflection that I have done my duty according to the dictates of my con science. — . (Hear !) Speaking as art individual, neither for myself, or for those connections which I hold most dear, does there exist th . esmallest interest, in a personal sense, relative to'svintt may he the issue of this .measure. But 1 think the Hon. Baronet wotilll but discharge his duty; by abstaining from language, the tendency of which, his own reflection must. teltitnnyessrlsonly 16-ut t o _ an increase of the lamentable occbrrences which be wishes to limit and repress."— ([he Right Hon. Gentleman sat down amid continued cheers ) LordCASTLEREAGII. - If the lion. Baronet had merely indulged himself with a general censure of the principles and con f inet of his Majesty's Government, he was prepared to have. been -per fectly silent ; but when the. Hon. Baronet had travelled out of his course to attack those neces sary measures which had been taken to secure the peace and safety of the. metropolis, .he felt iiin self bound to make some observations. In the first place, he Was convinced, from the equive;•al • language of the Hon. Baronet, that he was in his heart a sincere friend of the Corn Bill, tor other wise he would have been in his place to oppose it ; but,.however that might be, it was too pinch for the Hon. Bardnet to come now to the House as if merely to stigmatize those who had used legal and constitutional means of defending their lives and property--(Hear, hear !).--4'he Hon. Baronet had taken credit to himself on a former occasion for defending his house, though . that de fence was in direct violation of the. laws of the country; and did he now undertake to reprobate those Who by legal and .constitutional means de fended their houses against outrage and destruc tion ?—(Loud cheering.)-r-He trusted that he should be able to keep his temper in speaking on this subject ; but all the feelings of an Englishman . and a loyal subject were roused when he heard thOse who adopted legal methods of protecting their lives and property thus vehemently reprobated as connuittinglegal intirder-- 7 (Loud cheering) :--Why did the Honourable Baronet come to the House now ? Was-it to oppose the Bill ?No ; the Hon. Baronet evidently a i -yroved of the . measure; but his object and aiorwasi to.. _subvert the Constitu tion. He did not come, to oppos'e The particular administration . (for he must do the Hon. Baronet the justice to say, that supposing the government to exist, had repeatedly acknowledged, that it could , not be administered by better bands than . the present) ; but his wish Was t!, oppose and overthrow the Constitution. }le hoped that those who opposed the Corn Bill were not disposed .to adopt the sentiments of the Hon. Baronet—(No, no !)—eSpecially as, in truth, there could be tittle d ou bt that he was , 1 real friend to the Bill.—(The cheering at the cud of this speech was not merely loud, but .tumultuous.) Mr. M. A. TAYLOI{, though no friend to the Bill, highly approved of the calling out the mili tary force. Everyman had a right to defend his house by all the means in -his power. He had no taste, like the Hon. Baronet for haling his house rased to the ground, but should, if attacked, de fend it to the utmost. Mr. INIcTtruEN disclaimed all participation in the conititutional opinions Of the lion. -Baronet. A Mcmnii,a, whose name we could not learn, confiianed the statement made by Mr. Robinson, of the tumult in Burlington -street, and of the wattling given by the soldiery previously to the firing. Sir JOHN BEI:MIGHT con - P-nendcd the manly col:cluct of the N o b Loi . d and the .est of his' been neark(Nl I, • h by firmness and inoderati"" io For his own part, if his h o use were atracke(l, ' I ice should nroettre inf;n, to defend it ; he would P . ' 1 , them if he thought proper in ambuscade, utt er J r reordless of "the opinions of the Westminste constituents. He thout.Jit 'that the Right 11°- nourable Gentleman (kr. Robinson) . , 1"1 teen ton Much affected .frith what h a d happehed °pr . ; si!e his House. if the death were an accideat, was to be regretted : if the person -killed .lift:! beci, a trespasser, therewas little occasion, for Ili , ' e °1 ,"... plaint made by the lion. 'Baronet. For hittoot, be would state fur the information of the Elector, of Westminster, that be should' defend hi5...0w.3 house to the last,. and; by the theans' • 11° •• power. , . Sir FRANCIS 'BUR:WIT wished to say {c trl words in explanation. He had not meant to tacit any imputation to the Right lion. Gent le '''' man (Mr. Robinson) iii lividually : he bad (1 1 7 Jected generally to theintroduct ion of a n il-fit - ail force, which he must consider as a symptom ( I f. ; ', l ' military despotis.m. lie had argued that the civil power alone ought to quell a tumult as in fortO r times when a standing army was a thing ti nknovi to the nation. In those days the civil power been sufficient', and why not no•.e ? " I iou st now (said the Hon. Bart ) allude to certain es•7' pressions which the Noble Lord has thought l)r"." per to use. That Noble Lord has charged 0 1 • with a wish to subvert the Constitution ; charge him with having actually subverted tll e Constitution, in the sale of seats in Parlianiea t- He was detected in the manner. The Noble 1 ,0111 ought to have lost his head ; and would have I ° 4 it, it the House had not been too corrupt to Wl' peach him. He escaped because the delinquent was general. The Noble Lord may laugh, 31 ",, so may the majority behioul and around hint ; 11° ,! you, Sir, (turning to the Speaker) did not 60' . it a subject of ridicule, %el:en, in the strong ,lan guage of indignation and abhorrence,. yoti nounced the practice as one at which our nitres"' tors would have started with horror. As to the Hon. Bart. who talks of defending his house s i) , • r' strenuously against the attacks of the Electors (11- Westminster,he will wait long enough if he wai ts for any attack from them : he may he perfectly rr case, us he may be assured that there will be °* call upon . hint, for any exertion of his spiri• must again say ? that the Noble Lord opplisite could not have escaped but for the corrupt stat e of the• House of Coin:lions." Mr. METHUEN rose to order : the Hon.• net was not entitled to call the House corrupt. The SPEAKER.—The Hon. Baronet., from 110 experience in .Parliament, must . know that t, b : langaage.just used is a breach of the orders of t , ' House.: Sir. F. BURDETT.—" I knoW, Sir, that it is con' trary to the rules of . the House : I wish it wer e :• also.contrary to truth." 7 --(Order, order). Mr. lIOLME SUMNER thought, that as the 1 1 , °17 ; Baronet had allowed that he was transgress in ' the orders of the House, his words should - taken down.--(Cries of no, no.) Sir F. linaoETT.- - " It is quite indifferent tac me. 1 will •say but one word more : 1 canto s understand why my language with respect to t b , e measure should he. culled euuivocal, when 1 1143 f... -- .exptt-asi j - i.E,d - ttlat I do not care one_s4- 1 " . • about it.'' '133 The Petition was then brought up, read, laid on the table. TREATY OF CITAUMONI, AND LANDING OF DC°' NAPARTE IN FRANCE. WIIITBREAb rose and said, as his moti on respectin: foreign relations stood for Wednesdif next, he should be glad to know whether tbe:`, l , ditional Treaty of Chaumont had been rat i " e 't Ministers had been frequently questioned on th' a , subject, and had always answered that it was n li f ratified.; but he then wished -to be inforo c ` i whether the Noble Lord (Castlereagh), hacf with him, ,and whether he intended to lay i t - be the Table. At the same time, he wishe d a B t • Noble Lord to state, •whether it were trtie t; 1 uonaparte had landed with troops•in Frane e i Lord IL%ASTLEREAGII replied, that the rati" c h tion of the Treaty h a d be en recei ve d, -and w° d l he inchided in the information which lie to give to the House. As to the landing o f Pti o • naparte in France, his Majesty'S Governmen t b received official information of that event. Loal Mr. WityrnaßAD trusted, that the Noble 7, 09 would, on Monday next,- put the House in r os . session of the Treaty, preparatory to the d isc o tt, sion of a great variety of important topics .he hoped it would be found in the course of 04 Nobte Lord's information, that Great Britai" the Allied Povrers bad preserved an imniacilioa character, consistent with the principles they a t professed in the proceedings of the ConVe s ' - Vienna_ tlta Lord CASTLEREAGH thought it strange j oc o the Hon. Geotletnan should call for the Pr% cc o , tion of the Treaty betore the supplies .11A voted. T 1116 Wityrar.F.An desired. to inform the Lord, that the money had been voted ; and, " t he fore, the Convention ought to be laid bef t ' le - House. Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that the Treaty ' h 5--(;) • be presented with all conveni.mt speed. „vti 10 (1 .Mr. TIERNEY observed, that the 1110 3 * - : been voted in confidence, and the only ve3s°-ii;4, -signed for not producing the Treaty bcfdr e vie that the ratification had not been receive d ' a)rt t Noble Lord, however, seemed to consid er ,', t be he was granting a favour in decia:ing' would•preseut it to the House ; .but he I, ll ' demanded it as a right, and would tell th e Lord,. that that Minister betrayed his tr ust neglected to produce a Treaty, after h e 11 ' “ bill i ‘ •ceived it. Whatever the NOble Lord toig it t i e telf e: of that language, it was, he conceived, conjetin. parliamentary, and not liable to those Ol; P; which the Noble Lord had Made to the sr - i , e ve an Hon. 13al.oliet. 'fbc House had a riglit ° Nob le " what Treaties. had been made, the Lord was bound to furnish them with info. o7 - or Lord CASTLEREAGH' COHSideVed COC (11 1 : 1: . g e ; so sar.Tacious a Member of?tun:latent t ° his Majesty's Ministers' With a breach of t 1; - i ttf ll , l.. they reaained a treaty for a few days. 14c b-°,l/r -it would be b'tter, as he had before obs er r .t v . i r t e include it in his ,general statement tb"niji" . anformatiou to the Rouse but 361'1- T .