The Sun. — London, England, 1855-01-27 00:00:00

of lord b )14 1° ,0 ki i )l ot i ;il Oa r i if' 110' 01 7 „,,' A! I, fr. LA.YABD rose together, bat, uore - r , L ondly called from the Ministerial kt . c ial.t h w. 1118. I ) th e ha d no intention that evening IQ, hi 3 ".lla he could scarcely give z e st a. bie o i h g,ht hon. friend the which I . n i Wa il 2.m ad t rottbled the house. The gh a t s ' -eerall ingenious in his speech foli o 74 n otrits° what his statements the ;VA ° moment hahe.w gentleman insinuate wtehraet not t h e Ile ' . W ere i3nt in ° a n form likely to mislead. lemon had a ttempted to justify wh4 ierrittg to events in history. Bet thty ign all 8 of history tn the flames, .if lot to Warn tho&k, who followed to ayola ` 4l ° o . The right hon. gentle a state of things existed si i mal i n ir a lca g t a r t..t t at Balaklaya.; but, surely a groat war, the fi rst he‘r tthhaint.whaer. should should !r tb history to see had to see what mi st a ke s em i.oe . .sible, to avo id .(He b ar e . e ) n ga m y: riZ a t t il justified theerr a o t rs tem w p h te ic ( ll t h o a d d e b f : n e d n ~,,,i ti en. gentleman Z ttlze blame on the system, and then, cored ''l'.- " ° artily. If he remembered rightly, r Let - ' to comel the Govern .coe„.„ ,year ' 4O eyq e : I to Governme n t systems, 41 , and some k i ndtoofdopraolmmoiss! Irec ___( 1 oOlild be altered. That system the et th4 41 1 - -it remained preciselyl had le - Period ;no amalgama tion . g whatever he.d been done. The right je threw the blame on the army, saying c i e z ,„ ra , "Pabl o of commanding a brigade. 1 ,17 8, 14 the absen ce of Mr. Sidney Her .; "Presienaof dissent.) The right t i d e e T e , r ,,, e girn i e e ntal o ffi cer knew anything ll mes.r.) He wanted to know why ' IYWas allowed to prevent employing men '7 J ri f e g ri h ° ll ,..es in the great wars in India? owe ..,, ere ete , .e• kohl' Campbell. To h im w e °Ay; 'tl' *i 4 Vict or . ke_ °at th e , i , I st we b.ad gained in Ind .N‘ 4 . t e otath „;-'1)98a1 of th,e Government. bid they Ilf % ' ori --”" of 11 d" • • ? No I but in the com . t 4..., I, ~... , 117181011 1t i ,1 3 , .) `l3ored 'Leger I,' i t ',l to , awl kae a lv g e n e t V n o ffi a c b e o r ti w t h a o e h a tt p n s e i v g e n r . tf4O they k ly / t t i eje the ut her:e o ner i al g officers? He did not S tt t, le:ltiAt thing tut Pleasant. but the time was come teNi. retere'°l4‘ 011 t. (Hear, hear.) One genera r,‘,.tie i e• lied from India with a somewhat doubtfu l :::tio tiebirio,ledge ti l me t tae • di d not pronounce whether that repute- It % ot ltek Jnetly asealled b t there was no man who t° t e en t h e g riedet i t . must bu t there was no man who 'ko n nl. it must have _a very bad effect on , ° titi s„, other tine. (Hear.) Other commands it i °l k 'II() h..., 8 no less incompetent, and yet India a 'le,' Neil t‘lte o ed atom to take part in the great event s . _ t te.t 1 1 ,,erea ll Nue in the Crimea. Then, the right 1 1 41' 0 4:ale ss4d that our soldiers were taken from ~I,.hfie, th a t h Were dependent on others—they could zki °U Note,i,nl24(,e their:ow,a beds. He would remind 3 Ethd *allots were taken from the same mate el, ~ L: all 4,ooldiers were alike Englishmen. Why 4 14 411'' i n elfee • Nle h i l l ' I N , ' 'ffer enee ? When a soldier entered ex t e h r e . t 4 O N igetic t, told he must no longer _ ,°1 ._'‘t , ever, e' Tile sailor, on the contrary, was j, l ), '`l'v,, ',:to tii"., 111°Toont l mercise his intelligence, nth p?t , r l l;• th to- t h a l l so, c, of to difference between the the soldier was in i "°l • 3 • . ' hi: "130 'Feneit army sailor in the 'Eng -01. % %0 hm isten.Position as the te. ' I''r- e ° oz e i z e toe was called out: in. two armies c ii h ll ll 4l° tln - 'ivihZ co sta y & week in tn F l e w n ° cr l'islol -1' 44 1 10 t k i Lia hi °lv far better the r tkil ly 8 e 4, .t e , 3 duties int elhntly, i k w ite,„,, °o rv ei 4° lae Wllb et t o r a braver man, but was than the . 44y44-(lett,°,.tec t e 4 , (1 ,..er a sy s tem. abettorer ti lls lie, :''lrett,le, NIT* root of the evil they must go to (Cheers.) If ,:! t :it ‘ „.„ - cl i t 4 not till then would the evil b c e au ra se • il l ,! 1 4,1 4 I rlal e 4 eVt, eletad continue and be th e _ cam_ b t ile', h tribute at • (boar alf them is c hief of which it to 0 Wa s f d th,hear.) .X he right lon d _ li e ki ,, fr re `' i ced t r , ° greater part of sgaestentrles 11,4ete;tefore th,llialo;::lv.r had I,efagial l i t e u h n s e o s ta t e o e t i h lo e rd w t a h n e i th t ,e,? ~' te 4t , ,e c 'eldt b ) . °I Loo the camp, ce „. m ,j u ' e ll y said, that if the iiitei r.e,,eleelick.l for--at\‘'°_ fonr ese - en --- th at " the army, ~,t e , th e ove h .•-,6 transport of food to _ 03m. seven miles would I;tet,"}lier„t(nd. eLltat_iee before they undertook.e. nt _ t h l' % b e - the noble j. RussieLL expressed dissent.] .] lai c "N I , 4,,,, 4ohle lord to ear, that if the Govern thSlaiN°l) ti. l 'leis 1 ) 84.6 t he ar be so placed as to p li e ll o ie e e Y 01 !'.4,t,..71:4°!: wou ld myYoinof comm_unic . ation and. t 4 d • e hesitate d. [Lord J. Russuan i l / 4 tll : l ' t kr 4 l ! t tlQ w - w ' il it e h o wl : t nl i d lse Xl He begged the - noble lord's th e — , had. any army ever enterFd on et V Pear e):1 the --e P o esibility- of seven miles inter "" ~,,`!.ieq , ;/ t t - Point of omm - inication and the camp? e.:loeifs'agZ. reetZtneMberced last year in the winter, 'lti:Sa,il 0 ecti, Bo nne applied aPplied to him , for information 4 al forts 4,4l9eCtltd With the East ; among ether L l ',l 3 (l°F r ttrs, hikti g atY class of individuals cou d . b a. e s te e , i rl it was State d that there was somei 4 t n 4 KR t h I Greeks He state d that if they en oh`'"ilee w as a sY w ould ii irtie ''titi,, -41 atie t , ...,_ t = perhaps run away or be spies; . ° te't th, "oPl e bus3 Arnaenians, who acted as porters ,"e, Ith 3' Rent i i . sil d ttight be 4 rusted . He was asked &k, f ‘e ( ,,, NI. Christi or l ahristians. (Laughter.) i'F t ‘' t g 4., terabit, et k-;nristiaus„ and suggested that, as they ' , itt, %11 E a table the Turkish GOvernment, a brigade .le, tt % hati ef heir t tOi t i n dit °ll , lil t . obe used especially as carries s. li lllt tcl, t all - 17eany others, was neglected, tl' ' tt* Te e r ll rnin g s ; to means of transport w ere t h'jt trll4. .t id ed rgt hot. gentlaet- an said mean s . of r 'le- N et °til L , but the horses were left behind r t 4"; 40.1 44 fo r t e "1188 believ e that these horses were i t. 4 , t e ''', h 0.,. %sport servic e ? They were officers' °O 4 tly 7' were the ffi ' , if,' * l . With oui O. eerie treated ? Officers of all 4 h 'or 0 ° reg e i Jr their miserable pittance o f . pay to li 'O.; the t ~„ red t 0 buy two horses each—in some (1.1,t,,f hot7--and within few days the army left 1 fight) t,i,eollerep:€4,7,ere, left there to dia, and not one six 'lotl eSe we had bee* received by these gentlemen. litrek t o ' Zeoti e ,re the eeveral thou sa n d horses which the Ves t , ,r die Laati said the Goverment had procured at p ,er,, , r 8 ,41 Dort eel , . 11 4, ) NY 1 • It w 'lee. Then it was said there was a e, e s t 4 am o „ as true waggons were need, but when le, t hh• et i o " wart ‘,„ lepin , Aa r, 0 ,,_ no waggon train,and, what was tNINTe4O the ,w,n °fixers h ad to carry on their backs N I "ett e e l to b' Irl d. Row could officers do their duty It kti ~ rip ea .0 t estsbe of burden? It would have ki tilkl4)4ed therl4°o t ,th t b„. , e efa__reimport of a whole regiment tio ‘4 ."1.,145;be titleT t o much treatment. The result t ti ll tet h" eel's we e array reached Balaklaea a large 01_!ee et ,_ elk. g e4 „ re dead or unable so serve. (Hear.) Itilgvil gi m ‘26l,i,tit t,"ernau said the had revided a trans t*Ate'nttgeprlieswere lef y t behind them at Varna, ,:ei ° e ed o no reoci,V. Surely that was no excuse. till; Ali on h 0,,, entire? The 'fact was the commis era ); jt,,h4l, inetaWe:i,and Inni-es tinaacine not requiting ' L rcl j 4 t ° 13a14; 'a reineMber 40 mules being seat e l . th - tava o ut "b • t y provender eing pu ° Daassa Ce. rortnanitelz it was a grain ship, tete trnrerreUenile an active interference. Hie asser„tri,°ll,ar (jte.o -4143 e ,„ !I Riis - -i , 1 ) ' ver intencled to s i ze up ,s , war to izai tt ':!Pee• lee ereverentent sai.:; they wee., ie.) said that 4. ..in the balance of Dower in Europe. 4 tot th • th e b 0 cause, and he would show them a l-l c: o ase s in which b by France alanee of power had been equally endan gered k• The noble Total (Lord 0 g of 1833, stated to Lord Cowley that J. Russellbinth ‘ z c b e e e g t i v e ,e . her thoFrench i 45:isatneeat could not avoid seeing that it was the e 4114 ' ) %dor at Constantinople who had first disturbe dt_e_rs . to*,and that the French Ambassador was h fi t , ist e c e , a s of having recourse to•forc© and to threatenthe th, t eetion of a French fleet to enforce the demands_ had leee e°nt tree If the balance of Dower in Europe us h af i! to ieedaegeted by the course the Emperor of R t 4 %ken with regard to the Greek Church, he wanted esiliZers'llY the b arance o ' f power had not been equally lese e ,e'l when the French. Amb essador threatened to The te e fleet to Constantinople? (Hear, hear.) IN n ot tnPe;ror o f would R ussia had throughout declared that it totb ite wish to take Constantinople; but they said. they e' 3 , l ° oae word that the Emperor of Russia said e il t thereZ soonnfidence in him —had they no confidence itient? et, in Lord Aberdeen, the head of the Govern oft..oo h e / 1 1. !"Y had heard much of the present awful condition IIY too ritish a rmy in the Crimea. , He was not willing a t: letee,l.ttele stress upon the horrors which that army wa n 111 / 4 1 tt'ing• she mast not be told that if Lord Ragl a n !I l i ; t ,thousa.nd men to spare ho would not, lonbefo re 0, 1'°41115 1":16 a rs ad• He would not profess to. judge 1 if he h a 'glares militia ca acity, but it was obvious th____a e t hesd the men h p ld have made a . road. -lel Nall ar q ui s of Omni) e ) vr t on ced all these evils to th e tha4t./Cr4e4 ( .' 1 ill(' nutuberYof men sent out. The Secretary. e 1 that we never had an army—that weh dteor a t e' bl 't to army Was this a time to make su h a s I hit t el l? If we had - . why were these men sent , o att ee k the 8, no army, er nke in Europe? The Go" 4, i at titre t ,„ Jongest fortress (the O pp osi tion) for e o 4 g tezt otit 4 ', otatae—not th.ey tit; i." Of th e 0 .‘ 4o, !e men to perish so miserably was on ore Ott, red 'Nuea Ami dst all this gloom there n. !Zit, farnd t ee lle ta e i ,:g sP ' et that would nerve them to the co * b e ee t 4% the bravery of our troops. The noble th F e co "'a b '44011 had said that he hoped En a peace rates nOt e ble and jeestthtnot th at , aee Atnt °hours I) a Pe ce l ead) ; but he had not said gland, also be sNua: - wt tld be concluded which wou ld tat th e 0 , and jest to Russia . he'hoped thought (Hear, hear.) He . se ' e ki eht - h e Tres for peace wlich had b . een made by .ttu 1 141 4 vrha, w ar n h onourable pea?e, if we could clearly ee ep.. T.' e AYhjects, desires, and ambition. i ° b ll eltereey ie . ie h l/%1; bS Raid it conldnot be denied that ti, ~1; and, no r.hea was . unclothe d,_ s td i s tie l, b` arithstanding te h observations a o n f d Munn of earn e u s %honkd vote for the motion of . the hon. Lakdgiaternber for She ffi eld, ;set. He altogether irrespective 1; 4 ; 4 treq t : or no confidence in the Governm the individual Qlertof. ?;Ifidence in the abilities be ,tot, , the® Government, but he re o g f r h ett t ed u t n h a at . they enmity 0„1` 4 h,"' ,4 Government displayed t a klibt thet4'add have de'sired. telteeneet 'sr° had beenneglect in the gross Ther e could .be ne kia.. — ` 4 to t ake ?f the war and as the Government t 0h. 9,14, I any sit - w as p, t remedy the p 0 , 14 'lll4 i l t 4.k . °f thin-s, time for the Hens. I th at interfore in the matter, and he therefore Cilltel: t h e Proposed committee of inquiry wonj e d er b e e . di' 4 t 1 .°ll -e \vas very much pleased to hear the S .. tt4lte4o:rteat.4te thatonly it per cent. of . the 5 h 4 , a Op c l e s° l l ; 1144 % 4 , ,t , is n country had sent to the Crimea now but its'' , ete , 9 ' 1 , 6 , 1 ,e army of 54,000 there fli:rwlttha 'tat were so, he (Mr. Lin kt4lll.ll4r`blicelne of the 40,000 who were deawneyre)ewwmishiseedintgo. 4 14 ' L i fall 0 wished to know hew ma of oar brave (11 Perieh m 71 gloriously on the battle- fie how many li t r, he p -4 1 0.", sickness and how ne loot. many bY i' neglect. te, t hew s l e .u.e did rioticharge an y particuler im iv t of fet:y , t that had occured in the managemen rave e 1 4 41 ' 11 1 4 tit 4 ' he was afraid that many of our . b etd-,laity Plate had P erished _ by neglect, he wished that asl "tat tP,e(4llll. talee place. The Secretary at b kl i t i: 4 eo. 6 great difficulty which the Gvernm W en e a t a r m ha p d , t f , .lOter Was the sending of stores to the _ _ aya ;161 1 . 4 t tl; 4 d, ill fact sent sufficient stores to Be.lakl , 4 07 Ole ? told notbe transmitted thence to the camp a; N l tt i t e tee,°n• gentleman had stated that as many as ih;"°llhtcitf etores, of various descriptions, bad been 41(tlacd4's for the use of the army. That immense Nee Li p d cost Malt country a great deal of money, and 111 1 / 4 14 4 1 4H . oirde(latt wims_h_ed to know why the Government had I l itt eti tiPel'reittrnpie of transporting it to the camp, !N• Itikt 'tat th gltto be rotting at B . al . aklava. He CI f e. 1, 41 1 I ' ereat delay in the transmission . of re s s t p o e r n es . `tat ti ' l : 't the iZegleioned by the Admiralty not being std tb Ael e 4 , Pt and safe delivery of them.. eared it aPP see' tltti th e ali o ..`tY entent l itself by chartering 414,e:14%e:11,4 to ti ktt of . a il . t : i i - ...e a d o . be conducted by the servan a ts T o e t f the by e undertaken Npe its d PI lei, ' 4 t . 1- 'y Officer, until its safe arrive in that ate4t wee ebc,PSteoll. Until the present sy stem its. managem l e a n t the ' thledeeill'°'d the country need not expect that the tete s „,'l4eonee. (k,,,thearrey would be promptly transported _ '%el - a - k r °IA 41,11 e Unie observations would apply to Y.,,si,ue Ordna e nd the War Department. " 14 e1.0'tit sad St ate iea of thing s, responsibility 'Aiia f clew n or the present system of non-r , V 6 CtZ ' B O 0 , T, ) ,", , t ` l ' 4 %4Gam L . srtic, r. aro IA !e.O ° a.„gh hi„?ohb ion , inn g in 4 Ai tt , tea bat , 1 data . Gt, . 4 1 , 1 a . P; * ' , Ai llsu a g ° I ,NA e of , 4 gged tly"Y r ga l. w a , or t, ,„ e iuir ed f lam e ° . 0 ktil y u ti tu i C A 4e t 11( of 0 1 ° yith il lip C e 1 53 JCS,/ h o ' n , tit th, ' 7 ° ,„o tllt'Zrred b glut: th e w e ll Y ref c 41 1 71. °71 N e W e""g a l la( Tat 4 t tin tO 4 0 1 4: t 1 r ex :rer a a 0 11) b O , ll 11 141 24. d ' 41 1.1' 1 Le 7 rt c)ok tq ; vet, / 4n, aZer OA a .t ce rt l :ltr, i f % 11 4g 1 .4 . Ist ;va `60,0 1 / give r i t ° alt er )11 ,er , / Xot b ee _ 4 t 4 18 0 (31, t 4 °tat o alt,„ tiis f , f ,, , „ k 4plac e . 4. as t .at / t 4 t t Rtttl e , t ' l nothi, t":, *er e a rl th e , 1,0 h on no °fa ct a ,4 ' hcA l leati "(I mo t L pi ila aar , g it l2 6 % ° '4lt g 'ls s e ,:. (l 0 0'4 1, 1„ k IN 'Je a l ou ic orb e :Y kt,,r th:tatee of :~"`~~~ and jug by sweeping up the hold sofneipot t a feerl the poi a little corn or animols not was obtained, to send to Persia. There was, however, a man who, above it their arriva' this l o thers , was 3 N,V in cap able „ i,a of carrying on the diplomacy of gentleman well acquainted with the recources of that country, with India, and with adja cent countries ; ho referred to Colonel Rawlinson, who, of all men, was the one to send to Persia, and who would ! alone be worth an army of 20,000 men to the Govern ment. He (Mr. Layard) had strong reason for believing that before long the Government would not be able to bring Persia into their system of policy. If they did not take Sebast o p o l P ers i a wou ld b e aga i ns t th em, an d i n the ' course of a year would be at Bagdad, when our possession of India weiuld be—he would not say imperilled, but at any rete greatly shaken. And what was the position of Europe ? All the troops had been taken from Bulgaria and thrown into the Crimea to assist our unfortunate army in repairing the mistakes made by the Government at home. Turkey had been deprived of all defence, and the Government were doubtful of the course Austria would take. (Hear.) He could not believe that she would not take part with us; but if she did not Russia I would be at Constantinopl e b e f o r e a s i ng l e reg i men t could bo sent to oppose her. Even supposing that Russia fell upon Austria, raised Hungary against her, and beat her in a pit c h e d ..battle, what was there to prevent Russia from going to Constantinople? If she did, what was to save the army and fleet this country had now before Sebastopol? (Hear, hear.) In such a critical position he did not think the affairs of the country ought to be admi nistered by men who had shown themselves incompetent in war and incompetent in diplomacy, and he could not by his vote to-night show the slightest confidence in those who had betrayed what he considered to be the best in terests of the country. (" Hear, hear, " and cheers.) For the first time b rave h ear t s w hi c h h ad never desponded were desponding at the state of things existing in the Crimea. He had received letters from two gentlemen he knew well, and from whom he had never heard a word to say they doubted or feared, stating that at last they must confess things were desperate. (Hear, hear.) This, th en , was not the mome n t t o h es it a t e , an d it was only by the country compelling the House of Commons to take the matter in their own hands, and having men equal to the occasion to carry out the policy of the country, that they could hope for safety. (Cheers.) He believed there were men who could do this and who could save the country. They must have men to carry out a policy worthy of the country, and if that policy were not carried out they might depend upon it that England ere long would be reduced to the position of a second-rate Power. (Hear, hear.) It was with these convictions—these solemn convictions—that he felt himself compelled to vote in favour of the motion of his hon. friend. (Cheers.) Sir G. GREY—It is with deep reluctance that I offer my self to this house to take any part in the present debate, but. I feel that I should be shrinking from a public duty if I merely gave a silent rote against the motion of the hon. and learned gentleman the member for Sheffield, and if I did not record in the most distinct and emphatic terms that I give my vote without the slightest doubt or hesitation, thinking that I should be betraying my public duty were I to sanction the precedent of committing an inquiry such as that proposed to us to any committee of 15 gentlemen selected from the body of this house. (Hear, hear.) The objections stated by several hon. gentlemen in the course of the debate, and by none more forcibly than the hon. gentleman who has just addressed the house—the objections thus stated to committing' such an inquiry to hon. gentlemen upstairs—l believe to be fatal to the resolution of the hon. member for Sheffield, and I confess that, deeply pained as I am now to stand here severed, for the first time in a short political life, in any matter of political importance, from my noble friend behind me, I can not, upon mature reflection and consideration, assent to a motion the only effect of which would be to paralyse the exertions—l will not say of this Government alone, but of any Government whatever sitting upon these benches and conducting the affairs of the country at a most critical period —a period when greater confidence should be placed in the Government than under ordinary circumstances, and when their hands should be left free and unfettered, in order to enable them to carry on the vigorous prosecution of the war. (Hear.) I have not the slightest hesitation in believing that the hon. and learned gentleman who has brought forward this motion has done it with a view to serve the best interests of the country; but I feel it my duty as a member of the Government, as it would, in my judgment, have been equally my duty as a member of this house, to record my vote against that motion. But I do not rest my opposition to the motion on the ground of it being a covert and indirect mode of passing a vote of want of confidence in the Govern ment. There are those who no doubt say—" We will ap point this committee, and then, by a subsequent vote, we will reseind`the order of the house for the nomination of the committee, and thus leave the division on the present motion to imply a want of confidence in the Government." (Cheers from the Opposition.) Honourable gentlemen opposite cheer that statement—those who not long since fil:ed high office in the administration of this country, and who now aspire again, perhaps, to fill those offices which they before filled for &con siderable period. What I—Have they no confidence in the Government, and do they shrink from coming forward and proposing a direct vote of want of confidence (Hoar, hear.) Do they seek to carry their purpose by means of this motion, so objectionable in principle, and objectionable, as I contend it must be in the greatest degree, in its practical effect.? Why do they not raise the plain and simple question of "con fidence" or " no confidence," and ask the House of Commons to decide into whose handsthe government of the country shall be intrusted ? I admit that that any man whovotes for this motion, will express an entire want of confidenes in t e Government; but still I wonder at hon. gentlemen act having courage enough to come down and explicitly avowing that feeling by a direct vote, but seeking to attain their object in directly and ambiguously by a motion like the one now pro posed by the hon. and learned member for Sheffield. Still, it is possible for a man to vote against that motion without ex pressing any confidence whatever in the Government. What is it that my honourable friend who last addressed the house stated I He admitted that the motion was objectiemble in principle, and must be disadvantageous in practee. I, however, rest my opposition to thb motion on other grounds. I admit, to the fullest extent, the right of tho house and of the country to be furnished with the most ample information which the Government can give with regard to the gate of our army, as well as with regard to the causes e those miseries and evils which exist in that gallant army, limit ing that admission of right to this extent only, tint every consideration shall be given to what the public nterest requires in regard to the degree of information to be given at any particular period of time, for it cannot be denied that a certain degree of information only nay pru dently be afforded on a particular subject at one peri.d, con cerning which, at a later period, more ample informaton may be safely granted. My right hon. friend has said that he was ready to enlarge the terms of the motion so as to flee it a more general and searching character. Don't let it there fore, be said that the Government are shrinking from afford ing all the information which, consistently with their duty, they can afford to this house and the country. But it is prin cipally owing to the feeling that this motion involves a cen sure of a grave and serious character against certain depart ments of the Government that I oppose it ; for, altheaglinot having been long in the department over which I ?reside, and which is not immediately connected with the conducting of the war, still I stand here as fully responsible for all the acts of my noble and right hon. friend upon whose the im mediate direction of the war has devolved as if I hid been ; personally at the head of the departments they themselves fill. (Hear, hear.) I feel it would be unjust to cast censure upon men whom I consider to be undeserving of thatcensure. (Hear, hear.) lam not here, however, to say that no mise takes have been made or errors committed, or tint every thing has been done in the right way or at the prmer time. I have always said that if we had possessed that foresight which experience would have afforded us, we might lave been able to guard against many of the evils which we all lament ; but I believe from my soul that those evils have resisted not , from the incapacity or the ignorance of any one mm, or of any other man, but that they have resulted from that igno rance under which we have all suffered, owing to the ines timable blessing of a forty years' undisturbed peace. The experience of war can only be acquired from the coniienance of a long protracted war. lam not here to say that a road could not have been constructed from Balaklava to tee camp before the mud had so accumulated as •to make all transit impossible. I am not here to say that hospitals could tot have been muon earlier established, or that the transport service has been conducted in the most efficient manner; but I am hero to ray that I thi dr. it would bo most unjust vere I to I concur in a vote which would lay the blame of these results upon any one man. (Hear, hear.) I believe tint if any one of us now composing the Government hat b cc placed in the same position we *might have fallen into the same series of errors, for we sh uld not only have labourel un ler that inexperience which results from the absence of war for litany years, but we should have had to contend Wth the non-combative feeling which prevailed in the country at the time when this wan: broke out I have thus, sir, stated what I believe to have been the main cause of those evils and sad mulls which we are now lamenting. A great deal of the misery has alzo proceeded from disease, which has been the effect of climate, and against which no experience or foresight could have gnarled. What was the effect of the troops be ing put in motion after having had their spirits cowed and their health destroyed by being kept in a state of inaction at Varna, where disease was carrying them off in great numbers? I say that the disease in the camp and the scourge of cholera, which, even in this country, had its almost c untless victims, seriously affected the army by weakening its strength and diminishing its efficiency ; and yet it would be moat unjust to attribute these results to thee conduct of any portion of the Government. A; this motion has been taken up as a vote of want of confidence iu the Government by hon. gentleman, I can only say that if th e bl ow i s t o be struck and blame is to be cast on the Government, strike the blow at once. (Cheers.) This is a time not for debate or hesitation ; it is time for ac tion. (Hear.) Let the house come to a decision, and, be it ad verse or be it otherwise, to that decision we must bow. (Cheers) I was much gratified to hear the hon. member for West Sur rey (Mr. Drummond) pass a well-merited compliment on that department of the Administration which is more immediately under the direction of my right hon. friend (Mr. Sidney Her bert), against whom, nevertheless, the force of the present motion is more particularly directed than against any other member of the Government. There are a few points respecting which it•appears to me there exists a great deal of mesrepre sentation, no doubt arising from misapprehension, of what my right hon. friend has said. The hon. member fo' Ayles bury has said that the Secretary at War had actually thrown blame, and oven a stigma, on the army, by stating that its officers were not capable of taking the command of a brigade. My right hon. friend said nothing of the kind. What he said was, that our army is not an army in the sense in which that word is used in war, or the sense in which it is regarded when speaking of the great continental armies, which are kept up in a perpetual state of efficiency to act as a defensive and offensive army. What my right hon. friend did say was that our army was an aggregation of regiments, and which I believe is perfect in its organisation ; but, from the very na ture of th 6 duties attaching to a regiment the service is a re gimental service and not an army. There aro many regimen. tal officers who, from serving iu the colonies and at other parts of the British empire, have never had the opportunity of seeing a brigade. But surely, to say so is casting no reproach upon the British army. The next observation I have to make is not with respect to any misrepresentation of what has fallen from my right hon. friend, but is a misrepresentation which has been made by the hon. member for Aylesbury himself hon.wi t h g r e e n s t t e e c n a t n o htahse said i o d n dt that t o i o t n t h o o f h t a h h e its ßritish D s o r i l d t i i e s h r . s l d T i h e o r is not so good as those of other nations, and that ho is not so fertile in resources as the soldiers of other armies. Is not that a sp g e mi akg n, in he s i o n ys de th p e ara ß g ri e t m is e h nt sol o d f ie t r h is e a B m ri e t r i e sh ma so ch ld in ie e ll tha T t hn, you e make him a machine, and that a machine he is. Now let me quote, in opposition to the opinion of the non - combatant member for Aylesbury, the opinion of one, of the gallant deeds with which his name is associated in both'services—the army and the navy—we are proud to speak, and to whom we aro all indebted as the historian of the Peninsular War. (Cheers.) If the hon. gentleman has not read that book, let me advise him to do so before he again ventures to cast imputations upon the character of a British soldier. Mr. LAYARD rose amid loud cries of " Order," and said that the charge 'which had been made against him by the right hon. gentleman was a most serious one. He begged to say that he bad cast no imputation upon the British soldier. UordrulneLt were tad ;.hey wuuid want all the necessaries of life in Bulgaria, that the coun try was almost depopulated, and its resources exhausted. He suggested establishing a marketat Sinops, and took the greatest trouble to point out how available it would be, whether for an army at Varna, at Sebastepol, or in Asia Minor. From Sinope they might have had a fall supply of fresh meat and provender, and by a little trouble they might have obtained regular transport service from the people of the country. But no ! the Government would not listen to a single man who knew the country, and they made a rule not to employ any one who could either speak the language or had been in the country before. He remembered recommew ing a gentleman who had been many years in the country and spoke the language as well as be did English ; but when that gentleman went to a gallant officer on the subject, he was told that it was desired to engage his services, but he could not be placed in a po sition to dine with the officers ; of course the gentleman refused entertaining any further proposals. Because the Government could not break through the system, they ; must employ Sir Charles Trevelyan's clerks, who had never been service, and who did not speak a word of the lan guage of the country to which they were going. (Cheers.) Tee Government sent a gentleman to Constantinople to make a report on the country. He recollected pointing out the absurdity of sending a gentleman who knew nothing of the language, to report oa the state of Turkey generally, with its mixed population, as different as black from white, and he was met witk a reference to the Report and its in dex of 70 or 80 subjects. That was exactly what he com plained of—that they were induced to believe they had in formation on matters which people who had lived in Turkey half their lives knew very little about. (Hear.) The right hon. gentleman the Secretary at War had adverted to the large number of transports which had been employed by the Government, but it appeared that those transports had only been engaged in conveying goods to Balaklava and back again without ever landing anything. An hon. friend opposite had given them an account of the state of affairs at Balaklava, and had particularly instanced the want of vegetables. This was strictly true, for he (Mr. Layard) had himself been a witness to it, and had seen the unfortunate soldiers brought down to carry upon their backs enormous sacks of potatoes and onions, which they were unable to remove. The provisions might certainly have been there, but had they been consumed by the troops ?‘ (Hear, hear.) The }lease must not be misled by re ports of the abundance of provisions at hand. There might bean abundance of clothing and vegetables, but,.unless the vegetables were consumed and the chithing worn, what was the use of sending them there? The house had been completely mystified by the accounts which had been given of the Prince. They were told that that unfortunate vessel had all the winter clothing en board, and that the fact that such clothing was there showed that the Government had not exhibited the negligence of which they had been ac cused. Now, in point of fact, the Prince had not on board what was strictly called winter clothing, but she had on board such clothing as the troops might have put on any day in the year. There was no special clothing whatever to enable them to stand the severity of a Crimean winter. (Hear, hear.) There was not a single rag of that descrip tion, all that was on board being a certain number of shirts stockings, and other articles which would have been given out to the soldiers in England or any other place. And now he would for a moment call the attention of the house to the case of the siege artillery. They were told that so far back as the spring of last year the Government contemplated a descent upon the Crimea. For the sake of the Government themselves he could not believe this to be the case. It appeared to him to be impossible, considering the nature of the siege -train sent out. (Hear, hear.) They had already heard that there were no mortars in the train calculated for a siege of such magnitude as that of Sebas topol. The mortars available were of very small calibre, and there were no siege guns of any size, those at hand being merely calculated for a campaign in Bulgaria, in be sieging such smallplaces as the Russians might have taken. Bat even in Bulgaria,,they would have been unfit for ser vice, as no horses had been sent out with the siege -train, and in conveying the guns to the heights before Sebastopol they had been compelled to use the horses of the Horse Artillery ; and then there were only so many rounds of ammunition sent out as, at the common rule of firing, would be exhausted in a day. The right hon. gentleman the Secretary at War said every endeavour would be made to fit up the hospitals ; but why had this not been done before ? (Hear, hear.) Did the Government think they could go to the Crimea and fight battles there without having any killed and wounded ? The French evidently did not think so, for they had already established their hospitals, &c. No outcry had been heard against their proceedings in that respect. • On the contrary, their hos pitals were admirably arranged, and not ono man had been suffered to die from the want of proper accommodation for the sick and wounded. The right hon. gentleman told them the Government were no a , about to send out a com mission of ingnirY. Mr. S. HERBERT observed that the commission was sent out on the ill of November last. Mr. LAYARD said, that was after many of the disasters which had overtaken our troops had occurred. It now ap peared that Lord Raglan had been directed to make a report to the Government upon the state of the army ; but how were they to get at the truth in that report ? Did they think that if they examined the officers they would tell them all they felt ! Not a bit of it. And how would these reports be made ? Were they likely to be fair reports ? On the contrary, rnd very naturally too, would not all that re flected credit be given, and all that was unfavourable be kept in,the backgrouad ? (Hear, hear.) That was the nature of the reports they would get, and not the least dependence could be placed upon them. The right hon. gentleman had asked if commissioners were to be sent out such as those sent out by the French Republic ? This was certainly no revolutionary war, but in the case referred to by the right hon. gentleman the army was in a state of de moralisation, and it was re zganised and led en to victory, performing deeds rarely exceeded in the previous history of the country, in consequence of the efforts of the commission ers. The House were told that, through the vicious system adopted by the Government, the medical officers before Sebastopol had resigned in a body. Of course Lord Raglan refused to receive their resignation, but the matter was a very serious one, and it showed how badly the Government departments must be managed when the medical officers finding they were unable to discharge their duties pro perly, were compelled to resign in a body. (Hear.) Ho had no wish now to enter into any full details respecting the war. He knew, as the right hon. gentleman told them, that the Government could not grant this committee, foi if such a committee were sitting upstairs the hands of the Government would be shackled, and disclosures might be made which would be most prejudicial to the public ser vice. It was net, however, in that respect that he should vote upon the motion of his hon. friend. He should vete upon it distinctly because he believed it to be a vote of con fidence or no confidence, and not because for a moment he imagined that such a committee could be conceded. (Hear.) They had been told it would be well to let the matter rest now, for the noble lord the member for Tiverton was Min- ister for War, and all things would go on right. It would not, however, shake the resolution he had come to when he found that a t last moment, with imminent danger hang- ing over their heads, tho GOvernment had appointed the noble lord the memberfor Tiverton Minister for War. That sort of thing had been going on now for the last 12 months. Had they Not last year told the Government that the pro- per person for Minister of War was the noble lord the member for Tiverton. (Hear, hear.) He well remembered his lamented friend the late member for Marylebone mak• ing a motion in that house upon this very , subject, and now, at the last moment, it was admitted that those who held that opinion were right, and the Government were wrong. But such had been the case in everything. (Hear.) Last year hon, members proposed an amalgamation of the War-office and the office of the Secretary at War. They were told that it should be done, and the Louse liberally voted 17,000/. on the understanding that the amalgama tion should take place. But what then occurred ? A noble duke was appointed at the head of the War-office, and he (Mr. Layard) had supposed that the new Minister would have chosen as his under secretaries some per- SOBS who knew something of the business o f suc h a de- partment, but he found one of tho under secretaryships was given to a relative of the noble duke—a military man against whom he had nothing to say—and the other to the noble duke's private secretary. (Hear.) It was really as tonishing to see how the public interests were trifled with, and, unless a better system were adopted, the Howe 6f Commons had better at once resign its functions. Then, again, the transport service was „brought under the notice of the Government, but nothing was done is the matter until Ministers saw that the country was determined to have a transport service, when they stepped in and consented to make one. Time after time he and other hon. gentlemen had risen in that house to state that there was no blockade in the Black Sea. Over and over again he was flatly contra dicted by the First Lord of the Admiralty, and told that there was a blockade. He (Mr. Layard told them that the tradein the Black Sea was as open as it ever had been, that many of our merchants had been ruined, and that the com merce was being carried on regularly by Greek merchants ; he was contradict:admen, than once, though they now found a notice issued to establish a blockade frmit the Ist of February next. (Hear.) Really, this was laughing at the public, and he could not understand how people could allow themselves to be treated in each a manner. Was it true or not that thero had been a blockade? It was evi- dent that none had existed. inasmuch as they now found that fact admitted by the Government them-elves. (Hear.) The other day a comphint was made that medals had not been given for the action at Balaklava, but when the Go. Terninent saw the strong feeling ente rtained by the public in that respect they at once conceded the matter, and came down to the house to say that a medal wcitbl be granted. (Hear.) New, was this statesmanship, or what was it? Did it not bear out the truth of the words of a celebrated English writer, that it would be of little detriment to the public service to throw a pieco of orange peel into the Palace Court-yard, and make the first man who picked it up Prime Minister? (Laughter,) Recent events bore out most strongly the troth of this remark of Mr: Car lyle. Either Lord Raglan was sent out at the head of the expedition, or he was net. If he was not, why throw any blame upon him? Upon all sides there was the same —he scarcely knew what to characterise it—the same sacrifice of public interests to private interests. He might almost warn them of the fate of Athens and Florence, and ask if it was creditable, when the very existence of the country was at stake, that they should sacrifice its honour and welfare for private and personal feelings? (Hear, hear.) His hon. friend the member for the city of London had attempted teexplain the speech he made some time ago with respect to Austria, but he would mach rather that his noble friend had adhered to the former version. He did not mean to say that Austria would not joie the treaty, and ultimately deal with them ; but what had she done hitherto when one word upon her part might have saved half of those who had been sacrificed in th e C r i m e a ? ("Hear, hear," and cheers.) Did they they think that Rus sia would hay. advanced beyond Odessa if Austria had been against her? Certainly not. And how could he, by voting again-t tho motion of his hon. friend, show any confidence in a Government who had shown themselves so incapa pable? (Hear and cheers.) It was admitted by the Go vernment themselves that they had made a gigautio mis take, and had brought us to this terrible position ; and he trusted the house would allow him a few moments, while ho endeavoured to point out the really critical position in which we now stood. Looking at the Crimea and Sebasto pol as nothing, it appeared . that the Gov ernmen t were now concentrating their energ i es on potted mea t an d warm clothing—certainly most important things, but not the only important things to be looked to. What was the real position of the country at this_ moment ? We were engaged with a gigantic power, and our army—what little army we now had—was in the Crimea, and could not be drawn thence. In what position did Russia stand? Sh e h a d upon the borders of Asia a vast army which it was highly p ro b a bl e, as soon as the warm weather set in, would march upon Erzeroum, and Kars, and Bagdad, and overrun the whole of Asia Minor. And what would be our position if Russia gained possession of Erzeroum, and engaged Persia on her side? The Government did nothing last year to.engage Persia with the Allies, and they did nothing till the winter even in the way of sending an agent there. Hear.) The gentleman they have then sent was one of great ability, and whom ho should be glad to see in almost Any position, but lie was not quite the man THE SUN, LONDON, SATURDAY EVENT What he said was, that as a raw material he possessed all I the excellencies of a soldier, but that the system made him a machine. Sir G. GREY.-:—Yes, as a raw material he was excellent, but that that material, in consequence of the system, was so deteriorated that it made him a machine. Now, Sir, Wil liam Napier, in a passage of his work; gives this description of the qualities of a British soldier : "That the British infantry soldier is more robust than the soldier of any other nation can scarcely be doubted by those who, in 1815, observed his powerful frame, distinguished amidst We united armies of Europe ; and notwithstanding his habitual excess in drinking, ho sustains fatigue and wet and the extremes of cold and heat with incredible vigour." There is the raw material ; and now we come to the ma chine. " When completely disciplined—and three years are required to accomplish this—his port is lofty•and his movements free, the whole world cannot produce a nobler specimen of military bearing: nor is the mind unworthy of the outward man. (Loud cheers.) He does not, indeed, possess that presnmp tnous vivacity which would lead him to dictate to his com manders, or even to censure real errors, although he may perceive them; but he is observant and quick to com prehend his orders, full of resources under difficulties, calm and resolute in danger, and more than usually obedient and careful of his officers in moments of imminent peril. It has been asserted that his undeniable firmness in battle is the re sult of a phlegmatic constitution uninspired by moral feeling. Never was a more stupid calumny uttered Napoleon's troops fought in bright fields whe re every h e l met caug h t some beams of glory, but—[l am now come to a passage, the accu racy of which I don't admit]—the British soldier conquered racy. (Loud shouts of laughter.) no despatch gave his name to N un e d h er en the eurr cold wa s i h te a d de h o ie f a d r a i r s i t n o g c the applause of his countrymen, his life of danger and hard ship was =chequered by hope, his death unnoticed. Did his heart sink therefore ? Did he not endure with surpassing fortitude the sorest of ills, sustain the most terrible assaults in battle unmoved, overthrow with incredible energy every opponent, and at all times prove, that while no physical mi litary qualification was wanting, the fount of honour was also full and fresh within him I" (Cheers.) I hope I need not apologise to the house for having read this passage from so eminent an authority—(cheers)—and I trust, that from this time forth the hon, gentleman will not venture to describe the British soldier as being composed of a " raw material" that is converted into a mere machine by the system of the British army. (Hear.) But, sir, since this passage was written by Sir William Napier not only has a great improvement tak en p l ace i n the habits of the soldier, but his deeds of valour are now recognised in a manner which was formerly never done, and marks of merit given, and commissions bestowed upon him with a liberality that was never before practised in the army. The letters received from one brave soldiers now in the Crimea have been such as to come home to the hearts and sympathies of all in this land ; and surely it is no slight proof of the im provement that has taken place in the character of our army when we find such letters published, equally from the private soldier as from the officer. (Hear.) One word with reference to a misapprehension on the part of an hon. gentleman near me who spoke seemingly on the assumption that authority had been given to Lord Raglan now for the first time to re move incompetent officers. Does he not know that from the first time Lord Raglan set foot in the Crimea, or took the command of the army, he had full authority, and knew that the acts of my colleagues when attacked by the he would be supported in the exercise of th a t authority, to remove every officer who might be found in competent to the a discharge of his duties ? I have thus stated generally the grounds on which I feel it incumbent on me t o stand on this occasion by motion of the hon. and learned member for Sh e ffi e ld —to avow my full responsibility for those acts, to share i n th e censure twiohin, which h an th d to this shoduarenmad may impose as on them as I them amby able —not from all grounds of censure or blame—but to state thei r case openly to p ing this resold- the house, and to depend on its candour and fairness in coming to a decision. This imposes on me the necessity of observing— which Ido with considerable reluctance—on what fell from the noble lord, the member for the city of London, in the early part of this evening. He has stated with great clearness, and temper, and moderation the groundsvehich have induced him to retire from the Government of Lord Aberdeen ; and knowing, as I do, the character of the noble lord, I do not for one moment doubt that ho has been actuated by a high and conscientious sense of duty in taking that step, and in with holding his vote and supptirt from his colleagues in resisting the motion of the hon. and learned member for Sheffield. He has referred to the correspondence that took place be tween Lord Aberdeen and himself some time in November, and he has also referred, and referred, no doubt, truly to the opinion which he says was conveyed to him by his colleagues on this question. I certainly thought he was not at that time justified in resigning his post in the circu ms t ances in which we were placed; but I beg most distinctly to assert, that I cannot - hesitate for one moment in thinking that, what ever be the position of a Government—whatever may bo the consequences which may follow such an act—any member of a Government is entitled, nay, is bound, to separate himself from that Government in any circumstances of peril to the country, and of deep anxiety and responsibility, if, when he proposes a course of action which he considers essential to the interests of the country, he finds that proposal over ruled. (Hear.) I should have felt that I was departing widely:from my duty, an d ac ti ng i n a way not worthy of myself or of him, if I had ventured to say, "You have st a t e d th at you think a certain course essential to the interests o f th e country, but, that course having b een negatived by the head of the Government, you are bound to withdraw from it." I should rather have said, " You have only one course to take." (Hear, hear.) But i n my own defence, and without casting the least blame on him, I must say drat what I felt deeply at that time was that the arrangement proposed by ink noble friend, and to which he referred in one of the letters he read, was a mere arrangement for securing unity of action in the different dopartments'of our military administration by combining them into one. (Hear, hear.) His proposal was that the two offices of Secretary at War and the Secretary for the War Department should be combined, and that the two offices should be held by a member of this house. I said at the same time, that if that change was to take place, and if it would be conducive to the interests of the country, it was a chango that should certainly be made, and that there was no man the country would look to with so much confi dence for holding this combined office as my noble friend who now holds Cho seals of the Boma per.artmeat. (hear.) But I certainly did not understand that he proposed this change as essential to the conduct of the war or essential to the in terests of tho country. (Hear.) The proposal was made almost on the last day of Noyember, 4nd it was not commu nicated to me till after the notice appeared in the Gazette for the meeting of Parliament, and I confess that I consi dered deeply what would be the effect if I concurred in a step by which one of my ll co eagues would be summarily ejected from an office which he held, merely on the notion that an improvement would thereby be made in the administra tion of the army. Now, I frankly admit that, all things now considered, knowing what the results are, seeing the feeling of the country, and knowing the • • vigorous mind of my noble friend the Secretary for the Home Department, I could wish that when the original appointment war made the office should have been confided to him. (Cheers.) Ido not say different results' would have been obtained, but the country would have had the most tried and efficient man intrusted with the office, and, whatever the results might have been, I do not think the same censure would have attached to tho Govern ment that is now cast upon it. (Hear, hear.) But I must say that when I was solicited by my noble friend to join the Government in June, when the re -arrangement of offices took place, I then understood him not only to consent, but to ap prove the arrangement by which the noble lord (Palmerston) holds the office of Home Secretary, and the Duke of Newcastle that of the War Department. As the Duke of Newcastle's colleagues separated for the summer they were unable to give him that advice which he might have wished to obtain in the very trying duties he had to perform. (Rear hear.) I speak my own mind, but I certainly do feel that there would have been the appearance of a want of generosity to have turned round on a colleague who was acting most ably and labo-, riously in the office which he filled, and ejected him from that office to carry out a mere arrangement for' greater unity of action. No doubt we all concurred in the opinion that a change might at some time or other be desirable. I told my noble friend he would probably break up the Government by leaving it, and that, before leaving it, ho should consider the respon sibility attached to such a step. (Hear, hear.) I was ono who dissuaded him at that time from insisting, g I will not say on the proposal then made, but from leaving the Government on account of it ; and, though I knew that my noble friend, in common with many others no doubt, thought that some , change might at some distant period be desirable, I cer tainly heard with surprise on Wednesday evening that he had tendered his resignation in consequence of the notice of the hon. member for Sheffield. I feel the deepest pain in being for the first time separated from my noble friend—l trust it will be the last time we shall be so separated. Nothing could grieve me more than to believe that the rest 'of my life was to be spent in difference of opinion with him on matters of im portance. (Hear, hear.) But I could not, consistently with the feelings which I think due to one of my colleagues, agree with him on this question. Do not suppose that I think any consideration for a colleague ought to stand in the way of the public interests. (Hear.) But I do not feel that the pro posed change would, in present circumstances, be conducive to the public interests, and I have therefore felt it my duty to oppose my noble friend. (Hear„ hear.) I deeply regret that he is not here now to share the responsibility of that which he, in common with us, approved of. (Hear, hear.) One word in consequence' of what fell from my noble friend; and was repeated by the hon. member for Aylesbury, to the effect that he has heard that since he left the Government the very chango which be proposed has been made —that, in short, my noble friend the Secretary for the Home Department has been appointed to the War De partment. (Hear, hear.) All I can say is that I ,stand here, a membei of Lord Aberdeen's Government, to defend the acts of that Government, and to submit, in common with my colleagues in that Government, to any censure that may be passed upon it, but I am no party to any arr angement by which any reconstruction of the Government is to t a k e p l ace. (Hear, Hear.) Ido not mean to sly what_ this course may here after be taken by the Government. If motion is not carried, it will be for the colleagues of Lord Aberdeen to con sider what changes it may be proper to make ; but no changes such as have been referred to have received the sanction of the Government. (Hear, hear.) I know orno su c h c h anges. All I say is, that I am a member of the existing Governmerit, ready to submit to the verdict of the house, wh atever that verdict may be. If the verdict ie not a hostile ono, we will then have to consider whether, consistently with our own ho nour and our own character, we may not feel ourselves justi fied, from a regard to the public continueinterests, to to hold join, oweve • the offices we now occupy. I earnestly r, in the appeals that have been made to the house , not to han g up this question in an undecided s t a te till Let the result be known, so that the Go vernment may know the position in which it is placed, and the country may y under stand in whose hands the management of public f ou rs i s to be vested—that the Government, by whomsoever eon ducted, may be able to take those measures that the cir cumstances of the country eminently require, and to carry succour and safety and comfort to our gallant army i n th e East. (Cheers.) Mr. WALPOLE—I wish to state very shortly to the house the view which I take of this subject , and I am not certain that I should have done so but for the remarks that have fallen from the right 'hon. gentleman who has just spoken. One of these was that this motion, if carried, will be detri mental to the interests and to the administration of affairs in this country ; the other was that we were unwilli ng on this side of the house to discuss, or did not care to discuss frankly, a vote of want of confidence in the Government. Now, with regard to the former of these points, I have always said in private, and I have no hesitation to repeat it in public, that it would be a great misfortune to this country if, tho Government were changed at the present moment, and that it would be much better for the public interests that they should reconstruct the Government in such a manner as to bo able to carry on the public affairs of the country. In respect to the other charge, of not daringlo vote a want of •confidence in Government, I wish exactly to state my views of the present motion. After the speech of the noble lord the member for the city of London it appeared to me that it was totally impossible to resist an inquiry some time, and that the only question the Government had to consider was what that inquiry should be. (Hear, hoar.) You have before you the evidence of the noble lord, who is the I only house out of the Government who knows person in all the circumstances connected with it, and who is,therefore, competent to acquaint the house whether some inquiry is necessary or not ; and I must say that, after such a declare ' tion as he has made, it would be a serious disappointment to NG, JANVARY 27, 1855. the country at large, it would create the greatest possibl e I Government. (" Hear," and cheers.) And I mu s t say th at, ! 5 7t h F aot—Lientenant Thomas William Joh n Ll oyd, dissatisfaction, if this h ouse presumed to refuse that i nqu i ry, I what ever li al , i , en s - ~, l, e ther this Government is reconstructed from the 59th Foot, to he Cs ptain, without purchase, ~, i d t, .._11,',., I: ,_...:1_..,:: tu .%. ,: CA. , ~. -,.' ~ , ~.!., ~ , ,,. . . , ... - I. .-,lt.i.- -I ;,. ± ..2 co. ...).!,:,., , ~,; .f tr , , 26, hhune for the mismanagement th a t has oceurred in our army. things w.liell • li „ been existing for some twelve months will 53th Foot—Ensign Dawson Townley, to be Lieutenant, The daily, or at least th e wee kly accoun t s that come from the I not be allowed to continue much longer, for it is a condition I without purchase, vice P age , p romo t e d in the 41 s t F oo t, Crimea are so calamitous—the condition of the troops, if of thing s w hi c h I say s i ncere l y, b ecause I f eel it deeply, is Jan. 26. these accounts are to be cr edited i s so a larming—the apparent unsound in p..int of policy, is unwise in point of principle— 60th Foot—Surgeon John Harry Ker Linos, from the mismanagement of almost every department is so clear—the , that it will prove in the end degrading to yourselves and 56th Foot, to be Surgeon, vice Voyes, promoted on the plenty whi c h th e Secret a ry a t W ar s t a t es to have gone d etr i mental to the best interests of this country. (" Hear," from this count r y, an d w hi c h li es h ea p e d i n profusion a t an d c h eers.) Staff, Jan. 26, 62d Foot —Captain Charles Fitz Roy Neynoe, from Balaklava—all this aff or d s th e s t ronges t con d emna ti on of the Mr. V. SMITH said—lie entirely put faith in the first ob- pay Unattached, to be Captain, Jan. 26 ; John Manners half management of the war on th e part o f some persons. I sa y nervation of the right hon. gentleman w h o last spoke, that Kerr, Gent., to be Ensign, without purchase, Jan. 25; that, in such circumstances, it s h ou ld h ave b een th e first it was not his desire, nor the desire of those about him, to Lorenzo G. Dundas, Gent., ~to be Ensign, by purchase, d u ty of th e Go v ernm en t to ask for this inquiry, so that take Possession of office by a n y course th e y m i g ht take upon Jan. 26. the country might be i n f orme d w h o were the part i es t o the present occasion ; for he could not see how any man in 63d Foot—Captain John Woodford, from half-pay Un blame for what has occurred. (H ear , h ear, ) I should fur- his senses could be so desperately ambitious, or cravingly attached, to be Captain, repaying the difference, Jan. 26. tiler have th oug ht th a t it was th e i n t erest o f t h e G overn - h ungr y, as a t th e p resent moment to wish to occupy the 66th Foot—Ensign Alfred Trigge to be Lieutenant, by ment, for the sa k e o f, an d i n justice to, those commanders mi n i s t er i a l Bench.hear," and laughter.) The purchase, vice Paget, promoted, Jan. 26. who, in their absence, behind their backs, without the right hon. gentleman had divided the question into two 68th Foot—Captain James Spratt, from the 93rd Foot, means of answe r i ng th e c h arges th a t are b roug ht aga i nst parts—one, concerning a censure or vote of want of con- to be Captain, without purchase, Jan. 26; Francis Gordon them, have bee n censu re d indiscriminately for the want fidence with respect to the Government ; and the other Diggs Watson, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, Jan. 2s. of that inform a ti on w hi c h m i g ht h ave furnished the relating to th e necessity of the proposed inquiry, 71st Foot—Lieutenant C. J. H. Howard, from the Ist house with a def ence o f th e i r c h aracters, not to have re- Wi t h respect to a question of confidence or no con- or King's Own Staffordshire Militia, to be Ensign, with sisted this inquiry. I s h ou ld f urt h er have thought that, f id ence i n the present Administration, he should be prepared out purchase, Dec. 31; Frederick Harding Amnon Firismil.. in justice to the ,country, which from ono end of it t o th e t o vo t e qu it e at hi s ease , f or h e could not imagine any ono ton, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, Jan. 25 ; William other is now demandi ng inqujry--(h ear , h ear ) -th e l as t thi ng possessing such an amount of credulity as to have . confidence Mark Miller F or t eseue , Gent., to be Ensign, Witheuep ur . the House of Commons would have done would have been to in the Administ ra ti on as it now existed, if, indeed, it could chase, Jan. 26. . resist such inquiry, to increase the existing dissatisfaction— be said to exist at all. (Laughter.) He had /given an inde- 74th Foot—Captain Adam Campbell, from the 94th (hear, hear)—and that they would rather hav e quick ene d th e pendent though critical support to the Administration hi - Foot, to b e C a pt a i n , v i ce philpot, appointed to the 11th hands of the Government in the due and proper prose cu ti on therto, placing his confidence in three of its members most Foot • Ensign Colin Hugh Thomson, from the 29th Foot, o f the inquiry. These are reasons which, to my mi n d, are particularly— Lord Landsdowne, to whom he owed every to be ' Ensign vice w oo d e n, pr omo t e d, Jan. 26. absolutely irresistible in favour of some inquiry, unl ess th e species of allegiance, and for whom he entertained the highest 77th Foot — Lieutenant W. B. C. A. parker, from the objections taken to such inquiry by the right hon. baron e t possible admiration as a statesman—(hear, hear)—the noble 7 8 th Foot, to be Captain, without p urc h ase ; Lieutenant . (Sir G. Grey) and by my right hon, friend th e S ecretary at lord the member for London, and the noble lord the Home Henry Alfred Macdonald, from the 16th Foot, to be Cap- War could prevail—namely, first, that an i nqu i ry o f thi s Secretary. The noble lord, the member for London, had now tarn, without purchase, Jan. 26. kind would be seriously detrimental to the public interests ; withdrawn from that Administration, and, excepting Lord 88th Foot—Lieutenant John Edward Riley to be Cap* and, secondly, that it implies a censure upon th e Gov ern - Lansdowne, his remaining confidence was due and given to tarn, without purchase, Jan. 26. mint, which, if the house is prepared to cast su c h censure , the noble lord the Homo Secretary with the utmost hilarity. 89th Foot—Lieutenant Charles Ifeyeeck to be Captain, ought to be conveyed by a direct motion. Allow me to refer (Laughter.) But what did that noble lord say f Why, only without purchase; Marcia Antonius Waters, Gent., to be briefly to both those points. The only real ar gumen t, th e let the house give confidence to the Minister to-night, Ensign, without purchase, Jan. 26. only strong objection, which has been urged against this mo- and to-morrow they would make a fresh Administration alto- 90th Foot—Lieutenant G. J. Wolseley to be Captain, tion is that it maybe detrimental to the public i n t eres t s , N ow, ge th er, (" Hear," and laught er .) The no bl e l or d sa id t h at without purchase, vice Purnell, promoted; Ensign p ere y observe what is the nature of the inquiry which is asked for, the Administration was under re-composition, but the Secro- 'ruling Deverill to be Lientenant without pirehase, vice Tt i s an i nqu i ry i nto t h o condition of the army before Sebas- tary for the Col on i e s _ _ . . . . .. topol, and into the conduct of those departments of the Go vernment whose duty it has been to minister to the wants of that army. It is not such a searching, roving inquiry as has been alluded to by my right hon, friend, which is to continue hanging over the heads of our generals and admirals during the time that the inquiry is going on. It is an inquiry into the past, and into the conduct of those departments to which the interests of the army have been intrusted, with the view of ascertaining why the wants of that army have not been properly ministered to. Now, how can such an inquiry be detrimental to the public interests ? Being a retrospective in quiry, with reference to a state of things which is appalling the country at this moment, it is precisely similar to the in quiry which was instituted at the time of the Walcheren ex- Colonel SIBTHORP regretted that the right hon. gentle. man who lately spoke from the Opposition benches had dis played so much of the suavitur in modo, and so little of the fortiter in, re. " Fine words buttered no parsnips." Ho was one who chose to use plain terms. It was small concern to him how the Ministers were driven from office, whether by a vote of want of confidence, or by a vote of stigma, for with one or two exceptions; including the noble lord the Home Secre tary, he cared not how soon they were turned right about face, and marched from the Treasury Bench. Ho re garded the sufferings of the finest army that ever went out of England with sorrow, and those sufferings had arisen from the want of care, management, knowledge, and energy on the part of the Ministers. As the noble lord the member for London had retired behind the scenes, he would not say a word against him, except that ho had retired, probably, be. cause " conscience makes cowards of us all." (Laughter.) He only hoped that the Government would be constructed in such a manner as would enable it to do its duty to the country. Mr. STAFFORD moved that the debate be adjourned until Monday. Lord PALMERSTON said ho had hoped that the debate would have been concluded this evening, but if it were thought by a considerable portion of the house that, looking to the importance of the subject, there should be an adjournment of it till Monday, he should certainly not oppose the proposi tion. Ho hoped, however, that the housa would feel that it was really incumbent upon it to pronounce an opinion on this motion not later than Monday—(hear) —and upon that dis tinct understanding lie should have no objection to agree to the adjournment of the debate to that day. The debate was then adjourned until Monday. THE LIBRARY OF THE HOUSE. On the motion of Mr. WALPOLE, a standing committee of 16 members was appointed to assist the Speaker in the direc tion of the library, and to whom shall be referred all matters relating thereto :—Mr.' Wilson Patten, Lord John Russell, Mr. Goulburn, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Mr. Napier, Sir James Graham, Mr. Monckton Milnes, Mr. Disraeli, Sir J. Young, the Lord Advocate, Mr. Macaulay, Lord Naas, Mr. Sidney Herbert, Sir William Heathcote, Sir Thomas Acland, and Mr. Walpole. ASSISTANT-SURGEONS IN INDIA. On the motion of Sir C. WOOD, a copy .of report was ordered of examination for adthission of assistant-surgeons in the service of the East India Company. BULLION RETURNS. On the motion of Mr. HANKEY, an address was agreed to for a return of the amount of bullion purchased and sold by the Bank of England, distinguishing gold from silver and bar gold from foreign gold coin, in each month, from the 31st day of December, 1853, to the 31st day of December, 1854; also the excess of payments to or of receipts from the public of British gold coin ; and also the amount received from the Mint during tho same period (in continuation of Parliamen tary paper No. 102 of Session 1854). FRIENDLY SOCIETIES. Mr. SOTHERON obtained leave to bring in a bill to con solidate and amend the law relating to friendly sooieties. NEWSPAPER STAMPS. Mr. WILSON gave notice that on Monday, in committee of the whole house on newspaper stamps and postage duties, he would move the following resolutions :—That it is expe dient to repeal the exemption of newspapers from postage duty, and to charge on . P.L.Geti bow , . ana papers transmitted by post rates of postage not exceeding one penny for every four ounces In weight, and for any fractional part of four ounces. That it is expedient to alter and amend tho laws relating to the stamp duties on newspapers, the printing and publishing of newspapers, and registration and giving seeprlties in connection therewith, and the regulation of the duties of postage on printed papers. The house then adjourned at a quarter before 12 o'clock. ins, on the contr, stated that he no thing to do with the re-constructioarn o y f the Cabinet, and ha that he defended it as it stood at present. Then whom was the House to give confidence to ? Who was the leader of the Commons at the present moment, and who the War Minister (Hoar, hear.) Those were most important to know, and if any Minister had risen and said that the noble lord the member for Tiverton was now the War Minister, that announcement no doubt would influence many votes with respect to the pro • sent motion. Ho entirely concurred in the proposition made by the noble lord the member for London that the noble member should be made War Minister ; but he was afraid that the proposition might new come too late,--and the art of doing things too late might be called an attribute of th e I present Administration. pedition. (Some cries of " No, no," from the Ministerial benches.) Yes, with the exception that the Walcheren inquiry was made by a committee of the whole house, or rather in the house—(hear) —instead of being conducted—like the inquiry now proposed—by a select committee. When I said that the Walcheren inquiry was similar to that now proposed, I meant with respect to its retrospective operation. (Hear.) I have heard it objected that this inquiry would be prosecuted into the affairs of the expedition while it is in progress ; but I deny entirely that this is the object of the inquiry now sought ; and, if such had been the object of the inquiry, I conceive that the Government ought to have limited it to the past, and I venture to say that this house would almost unanimously have supported them in such &limitation. (Hear.) It is also objected that the inquiry is to be prosecuted before a select committee, instead of before a committee of the whole house; or, in fact, before the house itself ; but are hon. gentlemen aware of the immense difficulties which occurred before, and which would occur again, if you were to prosecute an inquiry of this description before the whole house ? Are they aware that the reporters were excluded from the house during the whole of the Walcheren inquiry, because of the danger that might arise to the public interests from the publication of the proceedings ? Do they recollect that the evidence pro duced before that committee found its way into the papers, and that serious riots took place in consequence of the exclu sion of the reporters I think the house must see that it would be infinitely preferable to have a select committee in quiring into this matter, with the power of closing their doors while the inquiry is in progress, and then furnishing the house with the necessary information to enable them to form a judgment upon - the subject. It se ems to me that the inquiry which was directed by a majority adverse to the Government at the time of the Walcheren expedition is the strongest pos sible precedent for granting the inquiry which is now de manded ; ant, indeed, until you grant that inquiry, I know not how this house will obtain the information which they ought to possess with regard to the prosecution of the war. ' , tut it has been said by my right hon. friend, " You will hamper the generals and those who have the conduct of the war if you grant this inquiry," Why, I appeal to the house whether anything can be worse than what is taking place at present with reference to those generals ? You have anonymous letters written, charging the generals with mis conduct, with incapacity, with want of knowledge of their military duties, when they themselves are at a distance of 3,000 miles,—when they have no friends here with sufficient information to justify their conduct —(hear, hear)—and when this house, if it should adopt the plea set up in opposition to the motion, would in fact deprive th ose generals of thei r only moans of defence. (Hear, hear.) For these reasons, therefore, instead of this motion being detrimental to the public service, it would, I firmly believe, be rather con ducive to its interest than otherwise, although I admit that by inquiries of this description considerable difficulties must be placed in the way of those who have the management of public affairs. We have, however, to balance two sets of inconveniences— the inconvenience of interfering with the conduct of public affairs to a certain extent, and the still greater inconvenience of refusing to the house and the coun try that information which they justly demand, when they find the finest army that was ever sent out from their shores reduced from 54,000 to some 20,000 men, or as some ac counts state, which I would fain hope aro incorrect, to 14,000 effective men. (Hear.) This, then, being my answer to the first objection, let us see whether the second objection ought to prevent us from voting for this committee. That objection is, that the motion involves a censcre upon the Government, and that if censure is intended to be cast upon the Government, it ought to bo a direct motion. I must frankly avow—although I believe the same view is not taken by a majority in this house—that I do not vote for the pre sent motion in the strict sense of-a censure upon the Govern ment. On the contrary I look upon the motion as a propo sition for inquiry, in order that the blame may be fixed upon the proper persons, as soon as information is rendered to this house. My argument would be that, seeing that so much damage has happened to your troops —seeing that they are in want of all the necessaries that would enable them to per form their military service—seeing that they have neither fuel nor food, nor clothing, nor shelter, nor ammunition— not, because these things are not at Bal a kl ava, but becaus`e your agents and officers have not the means of carrying them up to the spots where they are required—l feel it impossible to refuse an inquiry which would enable us t• ascertain who is to blame, and in prosecuting such inquiry I do not necessarily impugn either this or that man's character. I say further, however, that if the Government are to leave the question upon the present state of our information, gleaned as it must be from the public organs, and if they will not furnish us with that information which would enable us to judge more accurately, we must then bestow our censure where prima facie it seems to be deserved—namely, upon the publis departments which have the oonduct of the war. Prima facie the heads of those departments are responsible for the whole of the business transacted by, through, or under them, and it is for them to discharge themselves of that re sponsibility by showing that they have done all that they could do in this country towards securing the proper conduct of affairs, and towards ascertaining who were the parties who have been blameable, and that having ascertained the fact they have recalled the blameable persons from the positions which they have occupied. I think, then, the objection that the inquiry would be detrimental to the public interests is not so strong as the countervailing objection that if you re fuse inquiry you are denying to this house, and to the people whose representatives you are, that information which is im peratively demanded, and which, I must say, is imperatively needed. (Hear, hear.) I also conceive that the objection taken to the motion, on the ground that it involves a con• sure upon the Government, does not strictly apply; for although blame undoubtedly attaches somewhere, you would not specify the particular individuals to whom such blame attached until a proper and sufficient inquiry had been instituted. These, then, are the reasons which will induce me to vote for the appointment of the committee. It has been said indirectly—and, no doubt, it is felt in many quar ters —that, if this motion should be carried, it will lead to a change in the Government. Ono word I should like to say upon that subject. In my view of the Government of this country, nothing is more disastrous than constant and fre quently recurring changes. For the stability of the Govern ment, it is important that the same hand should carry it on continuously, as long as they are able to do so in unity among themselves and for the benefit of the public service. I have always held, and I still hold, that, as Conservatives—at least, as right-minded Conservatives—our first duty is not unneces sarily to hamper the executive Government. That is a duty which I think we ought to impose upon ourselves, and a duty which I believe is felt by most of the gentlemen sitting on this side the house. But there arc times when we may think that a Government is either wrong in principle, or that public affairs have been so misconducted that some step may fairly be taken, oven by those who are willing to strengthen the hands of the Executive, lest they should be implicated in the responsibility of measures which they feel iu reason they aro bound to condemn. This consideration undoubtedly leads us to the question—supposing the Government is dis placed how is it to be re-formed ? Is it to be reconstructed from members of its own body, or is a now Government to be formed ? (Hear, hear.) I know that I tread upon delicate ground in touching ' upon this subject, but the reason why I regret most of all the retirement of the noble lord from the Government is the enormous difficulty which the Government find in the way of their reconstruction. (" Hear," and a laugh.) Ido not hesitate to say that recon struction is tho best thing that could have happened if it had happened before the Government met Parliament—(" Hear," and laughter) - but, in such reconstruction, it would be ne cessary for you to consider how you could have suited the places to thc men who were to fill them, rather than how you could fit the men, however ill-qualified they might be, to the places., (A laugh.) There is another thing of which I cannot lose sight, and which has been apparent for the last year or two. I cannot conceal from myself that the experiment of what is called a "coalition" has again failed, as it always has failed in this country—(" hear," and a laugh)—not from want of ability, not from want of principle, not from want of integrity of character in the men who compose the Government, but it has failed because—as anybody must have noticed who has watched the course and the measures of tho Government— THE LONDON GAZETTE OE LAST NIGHT. BOARD OF TRADE, WHITEHALL, JAN. 24. The Right Hon. the Lords of the Committee of Privy Council for Trade and Plantations have received, through the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, a copy of a de spatch from her Majesty's Charge d'Affaires in Morocco, reporting the following concessions in favour of commerce, viz.:— 1. A reduction of 30 ekeats in the expert dity on washed wool, which will now be 90 okeats per 1001 b.; aid of 20 okeats in that on uneleaned wool, which will now be 60 okeats per 1001bs. 2. A reduction of 10 okeats in the export duty on olive oil, which will now be 60 okeats for 100 lb. 3. Permission for the trams of Shedna, Haha, and Een Toja to bring skins, the produce of those provinces, to the Mogador market, on payment of one okeat per skin to Government. 4. Permission to sell calf-skins on payment of 40 okeats per 1001 b. Wolseley, Jan. 26. 9lth Foot—Captain Francis Barry Drew, from the 11th Foot, to be Captain, vice Campbell, appointed to the 74th Foot ; Lieutenant A. C. Elliot, from the 18th Foot, to be Lieutenant, vice Coast, appointed Paymaster of the Rifle Brigade, Jan. 26. To be Ensigns, without purchase —Ensign Poltimor• Ridgway, from the 58th Foot, Jan. 25 ; Francis Hamilton Elliot, Gent., Jan. 26. Rifle Brigade—Hector Stewart Vandeleur, Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, Jan. 26. 2d West India Regiment—Lieutenant Robert Scott to be Captain, without purchase, vice Harper , who retires upon fall pay; Ensign Milner Burleigh to be Lieutenant, without purchase, vice Scott, Jan. 26. REVET. Major-G enera l Sir He nry Somerset, K.C.8., to have the local rank of Lieutenant-General while serving on the Staff of the Army in the East Indies Jan. 26. Brevet-Col one l Wi lliam Freke W illiams, half-pay Un attached, and Brevet -Colonel Randal Burnley, Lieutenant. Colonel of the Provisional Depot Battalion at Parkhurst Barracks, to have the local rank of Brigadier-General while employed upon the Staff of the Army at Malta, Jan. 26. TO BE MAJORS IN THE ARMY. Captain John Woodford, of the 63d Foot. Captain Charles Fitzßoy Neynoe, 'of the 62d Foot. Captain Michael Goold Adams, half-pay Unattached, employed cm a special service Captain John Harpur, on retired full-pay of the 28. West India Regiment, the'rank being honorary only. ~I TO BE LIEUTENANT-COLONELS IN THE ARMY. Brevet-Major B. P. Browne, of the 49th Foot, Deo. 11. Brevet-Major John Woodford, of the 63d Foot, Dec.ll. Brevet-Major Charles Fitzßoy Neynoe, of the 62d Foot, Dec. 20. TO BE COLONEL IN THE ARMY, THE RANK BEING HONORARY ONLY. Brevet-Lieutenant-Colonel William Slater, retired full pay from a Provisional Depot Battalion, Dec. 26. STAFF. TO BE PAYMASTERS OP DEPOT BATTALIONS. Paymaster John Wheatley, from 42d Foot, Jan. 26. Paymaster Alexander Fair, fro-a ;.9th Foot, Jan. 26. HOSPITAL STAFF. TO BE SURGEONS OF THE FIRST CLASS. Staff-Surgeon of the First Class Francis Sievwright, from half-pay, vice Dartnell, promoted, Jan. 26. Surgeon Charles Robert Boyes, M.D., from the 60th Foot, vice Thom, deceased, Jan. 26. Acting-Assistant-Surgeon Henry Browne Fisher, of the S2d Foot, has been superseded, Jan. 2G. Assistant-Staff-Surgeon John Collis Browne, M.D., from half-pay, to be Assistant-Staff-Surgeon, vice Webb, promoted, in the 51st Foot, Jan. 26. ADMIRALTY, JAN. 23. The following promotions, dated the 21d instant, have this day taken place, consequent on the decease, on the • 20th instant, of Rear-Admiral of the White Sir John Hill : -. Rear-Admiral of the Blue William James Hope John atone to be Rear-Admiral of the White. Captain Honourable Frederick William Grey, C. 8., to be Rear-Admiral of the Blue. Retired Captain Charles Gordon has been promoted to the rank of Retired Rear-Admiral, on the terms proposed in the London Gazette of Ist September, 1846, but without increase of half-pay. BANKRUPTS. William Nehemiah Persson, millwright and engineer, Southwark, to surrender, Feb. 8, at two, and March 8, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Bell, official assignee, Coleman-street-buildings; Stevens and Satchel!, Cheap. side. George Hall, upholsterer, Brightol, Feb. 3 and March 17, at half-past twelve, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Pen nell, official assignee, Basinghall-street ; Linklater, Sias lane. SUPPRESSION OF PIRACY IN THE CHINESE SEAS. This Gazette contains despatches and enclosures from Rear-Admiral Sir James Stirling, Commander-in-Chief of her Majesty's ships on the East India and China station, giving an account of the measures adopted to represspiracy in the neighbourhood of Hong Kong. WAR•OFFICE, JIN. 26. Ist Regiment of Foot—To be Ensigns without purchase —George Deane, Gent., Jan. 25 ; John Heron Maxwell, Gent., Jan. 26. 4th Foot—Henry Arthur Blake, Gent., to be Ensign without purchase, Jan. 26. 7th Foot—Henry Kerr, Gent., to be Ensign without purchase, Jan. 26. Archibald Nevison, hosier, Darlington, Feb. 3 at two, and March 17, a t ono , a t th e C . nr t of Ban kruptcy. Nicholson, official assignee, Basinghall-street ; Rosooe, King-street ; Mewburn, Darlington. William Ludlow Palin, licensed victualler, Putney, - Feb. 3, at one and March 17, at half-p as t one , a t th e Court of Banireptey. Nicholson, official assignee, Bs. singhall-street ; Shineff and Son, Lincoln's-inn-fields. Samuel Glover Fairbrother, printer, Bow-street, Feb. 6, at eleven, and March 6, at half-past eleven, at the Court of lotto-roie. Bank - ruptey. Stanafeld, official assignee W assignee • Wei, Char • John Rickard West, dealer in bard wood, per ` SAW Mills, Canal-road, Kingsland, Middlesex, Feb. 3, atone ,"' and March 10, at half-past one, at the Court of Bank: - ruptcy. Pennell, official assignee, Guildhall-ohambers; Stevens and Satchell, Queen-street, Cheapside. David Enoch Davies, grocer, Pontypridd, Glamorgan., shire, Feb. 7 and March 6, at eleven at the Bride' District Court. Acraman, official assignee, Bristol; Bevan and Girling, Bristol. Geerge Smith, hat and cap manufacturer, Southwark, Feb. 10, at eleven, and March 16, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. W hitmore, official assignee, Basinghall street ; Jones, Sise-lane. George Ward, victualler, Bristol, Feb. 6 and March 2 at eleven, at the B r i s t o l Di s t r i c t Court. Miller, official assignee, Bristol ; William Bevan and Girling, Bristol. Henry Phillips, corn chandler and corn dealer, Bethnal. green-road, Middlesex, Feb. 9, at eleve n , an d M arc h 9, a t one, at the C o u r t of Bankruptcy. Whitmore, official assignee, Basinghall-street ; Stevens and Satchell, Queen. street, Cheapside; Wittey and Son, Colchester. Rickard Beck, watch and clock maker, Blackman-street, Southwark, Feb. 6, at twelve, and March 6, at one, at the Court of Bankruptcy. Graham, official assignee; Crafter, Blackfriars-read. Joseph Bradford, licensed victualler, Coventry, Feb. 2, and Marsh 2, at twelve, at the Birmingham District Court Bittleston, official assignee Birmingham ; Dawes, Coven. try; Motteram and Knight, Birmingham. Walter Milligan, William Gandy, and George Gandy, merchants, Bradford, Feb. 16, and March 16, at eleven, at the Leeds District Court. Young, official assignee, Leeds . ; Wavell, Philbrick, and Foster, Halifax. John Waidson, innkeeper, Montgomery, Feb. 7 and March 5, at eleven, at the Liverpool District Court. Cazenove, official assignee, Liverpool ; Yearsley; Welsh pool, Montgomeryshire ; Rogerson and Peacock, Liverpool. Richard Collard, coach proprietor, Devonport, Feb. 5, and March 5, at twelve, at the Exeter District Court. Hirtzel, official assignee, Exeter; Beer and Rundle, Devonport:___ - 9th Foot—Henry George Hunt Grubbe, Gent., to be Ensign without purchase, Jan. 26. 11th Foot—Captain Philip Philpot, from the 74th Foot, to be Captain, vice Drew, appointed to the 94th Foot, Jan. 26. John . William Shaw, passenger broker, Liverpool, Feb. 7, and March 5, at eleven, at the Liverpool District Court Morgan, official assignee, Liverpool. Samuel Garrett and Henry Buckley, innkeepers, Sand Mill, near Mottram, in Longdendale, Cheshire, Feb. 7 and March 7, at twelve, at the Manchester District Court. Fraser, official assignee, Manchester; Sale, Worthington, and Shipman, Manchester. 14th Foot—Captain Martin Petrie, from the Royal Newfoundland Companies, to be Captain ; Arthur Molony, Gent. to be Ensign, without purchase, Jan. 26. 17th Foot--To be Ensigns, without purchase—Serjeant- Major John Lee, Jan. 24 ; Francis Hartwell, Geet., Jan. 25 ; George Daniel Webber, Gent., Jan. 26. 18th Foot—Lieutenant G. A. Elliot to be Captain, without purchase; Robert Isaac Adamson, Gent., to be Ensign, without purchase, J an . 26. 19th Foot—Robert Conolly Martin, Gent., to be Ensign, without purchase, Jan. 26. 20th Foot—Edward Augustus Patrickson, Gent., to be Ensign, without purchase, Jan. 26. 23d Foot—Lieutenant Geo. Phipps Prevost, from the 30th Foot, to be Lieutenant; Francis M. Hall Dare, Gent., to be Ensign, without purchase, Jau. 26. 28th Foot—Lieutenant William Gordon Shuto to be Captain, without purchase ; James William Kingsley, Gent., to be Ensign, without purchase, Jan. 26. 30th Foot—Lieutenant A. H. Williamson to be Cap tain, without purchase ; Lieutenant J. C. N. Stevenson to be Captain, by purchase, vice Brevet-Lieutenant-Colonel Stevenson, who retires ; Ensign Henry L'Estrange Her ring, from the 11th Foot, to be Lieutenant, without purchase, vice Provost, appointed to the 231 Foot; Ensign H. D. Erskine to be Lieutenant, by b i t yi p e u s rc m h i a t s h e : vice J. C. N. Steven son , J a n. 26; Serjso Gent., to be Ensign, by purchase, vie.; Erskine, Jan. 25 ; Thomas Elwyn, Gent., to be Ensign, without pur chase, Jan. 26. 33d Foot—Richard Raecliffe Twining, Gant., to be Ensign, by purchase, Jan. 25 ; Lestock R e id F orbes, th i n A. G. fme, from th e 70th Foot, Ge 3 n i t t . h , t F o o b o e t— E c n a si p gn, without gurehase, Jan. 26. to be Captain, ; Henry Lampeu, Gent., t o b e Ensign, vice without purchase, 35th Foot —Ensign A. J. Revell t o b e L ieutenant, with out purchase, Jan. 26. Spratt, promoted in the 93d Foot, J an . 26. 38th Foot—Lieutenant J. C. Vaughan to be Captain, without purchase; Robert Johnston Stansfeld, Gent., to be Ensign, without purchase, Jan. 26. 39th Foot—To be Ensigns without purchase—Lieutenant Henry Lionel Nicholls, from the 2d Somerset Militia, Jan. 24; Thomas Reginald Gossoliu, Gent., Jan. 25; Francis Henry Chambers, Gent., Jay. 26. 41st Foot—Lieutenant Edward Every to be Captain, without purchase, vice Hunt, deceased, Jan. 11 ; Brevet- Major James Conolly, from half-pay nnattachel, to be Captain, without purchase; Lieutenant G. H. Page, from the 58th Foot, to be Captain, without purchase, Jan. 26 ; Ensign R. E. Mande to be Lieutenant, without pur chase, vice Every, Jan. 11. 49th Foot—Captain Lachlan Hector Gilbert Maclean to be Major, without purchase, vice Glazbrook, whose promo tion on the 22d *December has been cancelled, Dec.' 22 ; Brevet-Major James Wells Armstrong to bo Major, with out purchase, vice Maclean, whose promotion on tho 29th December has been cancelled, Doc. 29. To be Captains without purchase —Lieutenant Fanshaw William Gust ling, vice Glazbrook, died of his wounds, December 19 ; Lieutenant Edward Le Marchani, vice Armstrong, Dec. 29 ; Lieutenant William Watts Corban, vice Gostling, whose promotion on the 29th December has been cancelled, Dec. 29; Brevet-Major B. P. Browne, from half-pay Un attached, repaying the difference, Jan. 26. To be Lieu tenants without purchase—Ensign Thomas Fox Eustace, vice Lo Merchant ; Ensign Harry Denham T. Savary, vice Corban, Dec. 29. To be Ensigns without purchase— Robert Francis Burrowes Gent., rice Savary, promoted, Jan. 25; Robert Spratt, Gent., Jan. 26. 50th Foot—Captain Edward Joseph Thackwell, from the 48th Foot, to be Captain, Jan. 26. 55th Foot—Arthur Sibley Young, Gent, 49 be Ensign, Without purchase, Jan, 26, there was not ono mind pervading them (hear, heai); --- 13ese there was a difference of opinion which was sadly detrimental to the public interests. (" Hear," and cheers.) That difference has manifested itself upon almost every greatques - Con ; it has manifested itself signally upon the question now before us—the question of the war. (Hear, hear.) We have had Ministers in the two houses using very different language—(checrs)—and, since there comes to bo a question of reconstruction, I may say I hope that If you do recon struct yourselves you will take care that, at any rate, in fu ture there shall be fixed plans, steady views, perfect consist ency, and unity of purpose. (Cheers and laughter.) Without that the Government of this country cannot go on, and, whatever may he the injury done by a committee of in quiry, a far greater injury will result from continuing Government with discordant opinions. (Hear.) The noble member for the city of London (Lord J. Russell) in his memoirs of the great Whig leader of whom ho was always proud, and justly proud, to be a follower, has made some remarks upon what a coalition Government is, and upon its want of success when Mr. Fox joined Lord North. Ile says, in his " Memoirs of Mr. Fox," that when that coalition Government was formed, its members, by their own con duct, pronounced its condemnation. He tells us that Mr. Fox said, " Unless it meets with complete suc cess there is nothing to justify it ;" and ho adds that General Fitzpatrick remarked that, " Unless it was followed by really good government, nothing could justify it ;" and then he gives us his own opinion. " The want of this success was therefore its condemnation." Whether or not these remarks are applicable to the Government which wo have seen during the last two years history no doubt hereafter judge. I think its judgment will be against the COUNTRY MARKETS. LIVERPOOL-J - Arr. 26. At to-day's market there was a ypry thin attendance of the trade, and the business done insignificant. Wheat and flour same as on Tuesday—also oats and oatmeal. Barley, beans, and peas neglected. Indian corn met with little attention, and iu the few sales made the buyer had the ad vantage. WAKEFIELD --.I.ot. 26. The supplies in the agricultural districts have diminished and the fleet reported for these markets have been disposed of either.by sale or landed. In the early pact of the week there were some sales of wheat made at improving prices, but to-day millers: show little disposition for business, and the prices fer this day se'nnight cannot be eaaepded. EXETER—Disc. 24. CORN.--In our market wheat may be quoted from 8s to 98 3d. Malting barley, 4s 3d to 4s 9d ; grinding do., 3s Od to 3s 6d. Oats, 3s 3d to 3s 6d. Beans, Os Od to Os cows and calves Od. Peas, 00s Od to GOs • Od F p L e O r u s ß ac . k CATTLE.—Prime beef, 1 0s 9(1 per score —Fine, t3s Od to 54s Od ; seconds, 51s Od to 52s 121. to 161. ; butchers' calves, 6id to 7d.' per lb., reining calves 00s to 00s each. sheep, 50 to 64d. Lambs, Od to Od per lb. Store hogs, large size, 40s to 50s each ; slips, 24s to 30s ; small , Os to tO s . Bough fat, bid per lb. Pork carcases from 8s 6d tog s Od per score. INVERNESS.—JAN. 23. CORN.—Wheat, white, per qr., 68s Od to 70s Od. Bar. ley, chevalier, 29s Od to 2 , 0 s 0(1; ditto, common, 28s Od to 30s Od. Oats, 27s Od to 28a OJ. MEAL. - --Oatmeal, per imp. boll 23s 4d to 24s Od ; ditto second, 00s Od to Os Od ; barleymeal, 16s ld to Os Od ; peasemeal, 17s 6d to Os 0(1; bran, per stone, Os 8d to pd; Ist flour, per 2801 b, 50s Od to 56s Od ; 2d ditto, 16s Od to 00s Od ; oatmeal, best, par st. of 141 b imperial 2s 6d to Os Od ; ditto second, Os Od to •0s Od ; barleymeal is Gil to 00s Od ; peasemeal, is 8d to Os 0 , 1; Ist flour, 3s Od cash, 3s 6d credit ; 2(1 ditto, 2s 6d cash, 2s 9d credit. BRISTOL SUGAR --JAN• 26. prsiecnsn goht . u o l t n a q The stocks ofWestlndia o ff ering are far fr om consider able, and as a steadyd ic, e iae m rst a io n uf d ulta i h s ris ex perience a ll parce l s an inquiry, c . brought forward have been tak en at fo varying g h o fe o rr d oe s m d i st o hn n eo o te t hu ir e nr a ge n perience so a a e l t l v n eg fo r mot prices aro, if anything, a shade lower. MARK. Z.-JAN. 26. Prices of Coal per ton at tl 'le close of the market• I WaMend, kn. s. d. Buddle W. Hartley 23 0 Howard's West Hartley Netherton 2e 0 Taufield Moor l7 0 Tantield • l7 ( Wallsend l9 0 Eden Main 24 (i 9. d Hetton 25 6 Haswell 25 6 to war t's 25 6 Cassop 24 6 Hough Hall 24 3 South Hartlepool 25 0 South Kclloe 24 3 .~,