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Wer ° it the LS trial' ch bride , wit° by is ter of age 0 - 1 0.0 a 05' not ar nticitff aunt 00 Docu- It as We 0 ba ►giuleto v .. .0 Sit ►ctrine' l and 1.4 til t Luce 1 p°lid° iy nla bc ind fry' either er its °tY G e mat h are caw? 13 the Intel' Gall(' a de. ouse s, .e. r t title Yvi ea npan - ' t o ff rlains,,4 proce lch 1, v/ I ' l lo, /seat s lof ) a v r i 4 - 0 s tt ; t l o wo. d Woo e tY, arts, /11 ar 4 mart tbe i iie t l aria ha l !re L'„ the“` n os 'rite its a re s 6: the (V la to lel' (Iby s°': at sit v 4 ,,, fo f ding o , c lo tt ,' six- t o 6 , el l cos i ji v tf , . 1 of y w i ond° ll. 9i V e f e s g ral7 o , ;into'" rt jo g ) d eer s 6i ° b ov their POLITICAL grrafig O 1 GERMANY. . • rtorzt:rim. LETTER, OF.PRINCE METTERNICH, PRIME MINISTER or AUSTRIA, TO BARON DER- STET; TIIE GRIEF MINISTER OF THE ' GR.I.Nb LUKE OF BADEN. [llls Letter, we belietre, is a Circular sent to the whole of the German Princes.] Your Excellency has expressed the desire of hi' R oyal Highness the Grand Duke to know in a general but l'l r eciett manner, the ideas of the Imperial Cabinet on the po-, -cal state of Germany. This invitation on the part ota Pti i ncit . nc n e a . : . : o h t ° gives daily the most lauda b l e p roofs of his firm to protect -its welfare, and his profound sense of the elements which compose it, honours me as much as it Poses on me the duty of communicating to your Excel en without reserve, the point of view under which we ev a,ider the actual state of things. -Time advances in the /4 hlst of storms; to endeavour to arrest its impetuosity would eain attempt. Firmness, moderation, prudence, and a 11-ni°° of accurately ascertained forces, - are still left in the I"er of the protectors and the friends of wafer. This at Present constitutes the duty of all Sovereigns, and of all well -14446011yd States Men ; and he alone shall merit that title In th e d ay of danger, who, after exam i n i ng w h at i s p oss ibl e , ' n t' what i s equ i ta bl e , w ill no t a llow himself to be turned fro m the noble obj e ct to which his efforts should tend, either b ineffectual wishes, or by dejection of spirit. This obj ec t is easily detzramined. In our days it is nothing is• re nor less than to maintain that which exists ; to attain 4., 4 the only means o f p reser ving present advantages, perhaps en the best calculated to recover that which has been al - aZ I T lost. -- To this end the efforts and the measures of all ° are united by a common principle. and a common inte! . + Ij.tt ought to be directed. The combustible elements which 9albeen.long prepared were enflamed between the years t ;' and 18.'0. The false course which the' French - Mi nll pursued d ur ing that.- epoch—the toleration allowed irs si l( e ," ° anY to the most dangerous doctrines — the indu l g ence I , ‘l , '.`r to au d ac iC us re f orme r s —,weakness in repressing the Zes of th e press; fin-ally, th e precipitation with which re t r i e sentatsve constitutions were given to the Southern States y all these causes have impressed the most fatal `l"Z:ctian on parties whom uothing can satisfy. Peothing, proves better the impossibility of satisfying these hPatties than the observation, that their most active operations 4 !alien place in the State -where the greatest indulgence rt soo l wn to their pretended views. • Ca r l Zesil had reached such a pitch before the Congress - of bee:"", that a trifling political -consplication would have of th e sn ffleient tO overthroW entirely social order. line wisdom ,sYstem which the great Courts - adopted has preserved thetae, r'citts the daneers Which still might be fatal. What. such a case ought to be the march of an enlightened lb,ln proposing this question, we pre ,suppose uthPassibility of salvation, and We thinl, ourselves perfectly u tiz4d i n such a hope. In examining the means by which hiteekan attain so elevated an end, we see ourselves brought to the point whence we set out. To repair by little and •t„ il e an edifice which threatens to,fall, we must have a sure an o . Mat l°a Thus, to secure a happier futurity, we must be eat least of the present. The maintenance of that which r akoi j irc l t t a s u o t tl , g o tp, therefore, to be the first, as wel l as th e most Mr' our cares. By this we do not understand only the tijt ient order of things. which has been respected its some ‘4tries, hot likewise all the new institutions legally created. to The importanc e of maintaining them with firmness and. ItZ tane Y may •be seen by the attacks which have. been made a k ;, !' t hem, with a fury perhaps greater than against our f ri c rent institutions. In the present times, the transition xl 'al what i s anc i ent to w h a t i s new , i s accom panied with as men dang er as t h e re t urn f rom w hat is new to what has 44 - 7 n abolished, Bothlnay equally lead to an explosion of the -s k .4r° h'iea which it is essential to avoid at any price. things, to deviate in any manner iron) the existing' o rder of ing s, f .rom whatever on igin it ma d have sprung; not to at ttulpt changes, though they • shothid . he thought absolutely mme ki-tl).4rY, excep t with eptir . e liberty, .and after a resolution ch e f i. trio suc the first uy of a Government inclid to re h d sist the evils of t the age. Douhtless resolution, however just or natural,.would excite obsti- Ce opposition ; but the advantage of being placed upon a stron g and acknowledged basis is evident, because from this d ir ° e "g ground it would be easy to stop or to anticipate in all i t hege : cr t d l ":r the oikcssarily uncertain niotions of the enemy. We I ,e• objection which may be made, namely, that among , 1 - ;"„ sta ntions hitherto given to Germany, there are some puieprme on no basis, and have consequently no point Wait ; pig ce de r, d l :totted. - If such had been the case, the demagogues, nd efatigable, would not have failed to undermine them. , legally established, contains within itself the bit ra L r i P e a better system, provided it is not the work. of ar •ih C o rt ex,Y power or of frantic blindness, (like that generally of ae is " t. ISM) It may moreover be said, that a charter time, of a constituti o n properly,so called; the latter is formed and depends always on the knowledge and inclination • ti,7l er nment to give to the development of the comfits'. their: regim e • such a direction as may separate the good from vil, consolidate public authority, and preserve the re endatltheemliTtp.piness of the mass of the nation from every Two great means of safety are secured now everyail p Government, with the feeling of its dignity ditty, has determined not to destroy.itself. b tie er. uf th ese means res t s on th e satisfactory conviction that • ' a e tn the E uropean P owers th ere exists no misunderstand k•tt. s nd that, accor di ng t o th e i n variable principles of Serve m none can be foreseen. This fact, which is placed be tar lt doubt, confirms our position and guarantees our ". • Ti l ast. l e Ph other means is the union formed in the course of the sei n Pine :smith's between the German • States ; an union k n, by tire Isies6 sin of God, our firmness and, fidelity will ender irtdiiol,•!mle. f n Th e conferen ces a t C ar l s bad, and the decrees which' issued m theta, have acted in a more powerful and salutary malt ase h`uati feelings! we are awn to ourselves at a time when lat e h ave still the of those embarrassments which *- 11 ( 1, 4 " , and is hen weep can wily calculate superficially all the N i nt ages which ave obtained. , .e , asures, so important as these, can only w ho l e cd r,sttl.e%ir whole extent when we can know the of their s, nt The epoch which immediately follows cannot pre. da ct . d thrt n all to its, but we can appreciate the effects pro eulati hy the resolutions of the 20th of September, by cal-. cal the probable progress which the enemies of order "are made wit hi•nt them. The results of the con, wilfi ees of Vienna, though of a more elevated order, sir hav e an effect less Vrilliatsf but more profound anti de - to earl I he. consolidation sit the Germanic union offers °f the states which compose it an efficacious guarantee o( a N i ~nvalnabl e advantage.in present circumstances, and one I.ls h 'ell we Could not have been certainly assured, except ratia n e ,. ° .tirse that iris been followed. The good faith and mode. assay o hich this important walk 6as been comlucted pr eye ! ) the o w ne -hand have fixed us tn certain ro:insts, and but :led h :led u s f rom ta ki ng measures more bold and energetic; the other, supposing suc h course possible, there would av bapanelee n wanting to the work one of the first conditions, th iv e c(: ) ! ',, tr t a h: t ! t r;e p c a o r i t s i s e n s et ion and the sincere confidence of all tat.eobeen could have compensated such a defect, which must fro in every attempt toimut execution determina. of t'ilertmade under such auspiCes'... In general the moral fence. arid ti "nfederation wan as necessary as its legislative force ; li e , ess l i e Progress which the conviction of the utility and the intp ul t Y o f this union has made, is, in our opinion, a most Th l ant and most happy resalt. - . rules •which 'the' • German Governments will hence have to observe maybe pointed out in a few words I,nallui onindence in the duration of European peace. and in the of the principles which direct the high Allied ttatio u scrupul ous attent i on to t h e i r own s y s t e m of Adminis . es 3 i : f re , r s eyerance in tine maintenance of the legal basis of the Ibtr:n6 constitutions and a firm determination to defend force and P;ndence against every individual attack. In nis; tie,..4meliOratn o eSsen tial faults in these constmtu • amelior i a o tiou f being made by Governments, and cod To on sufficient reasons. s , ttane t e ca se of insnfliciency of means. an appeal to time as nivibb,r the Confederation—an assistance which every '"5 the most sacred right to exact ; and which, ac t•ttsed to Present stipulations,'can less than ever be re jil.st_t„sen.ecording to us, the only truly salutary, legal, and of 11ie A.essin,,,anyero(r);nasn:(llc.l-1 u p s r t i r s i i ,, e , iples rests the political system tranquil in her interior, pos ',uno-cj's, NN i ! iii in t inosing mass of moral force and physical re ‘ivitis( oTitl l i , N, ty ay u s nalie use of ahem for her own preset - - he ready to dispose of them for the la tie their exe i r ilr ise e , outederates, when dusty and wisdom de . I have the honour to he, (Signed) METTERNICH. SECOND EDITION. StIN-OFPICE, Haft:pot Five &Clock: :OUSE. OF LORM4,—(this EviNING) THE QUEEN. After the cross and re-examination of MA- sotci had concluded, the SOLICITCIR-GENERAL proceeded at one o'clock to sum up the case for the I3ilt V The Learned Gentleman concluded at ialf-past three when some discussion took plade as to the mode of proceeding with THE QUEEN'S defence. Mr. BROUGHAM requested to be al, owed to make his statement for the defence, and having done so, to be then at liberty either to call his witnesses or to postpone the examining them till a future period. After some conver- sation, it was at length agreed to ask Mr. BROUGIIAM again to-morrow morning what course he intended to pursue ; and if he still persisted A' making the same request, that the House should hen proceed to debate 4hether such requesi should or not be granted. The House then adjourned till to-morrow morning, the Lords to be called over at half. past eleven. SHIP NEWS. PORTSMOUTH, SEPT• 6.—Arrived his Majesty's ship Grecian from a cruize. RAMSGATE, SEPTEMBER 6.—The wreck of the schooner Forroget, which was on the Goodwin Sands, has been got off, and towed in here by .hree ve"ssels. NEWHAVEN, SEPT. 6.—Arrived off this port the, Two Brothers, MATISON, from Lisbon for Norway, in want of water and provisions. CAPTURE OP THE CLINTON AND LIBERTY, SMUG OLERS FROM NEW-YORK. His -Majesty's sloop Sappho, at sea, off Down , patrick Head, August 13, 1820. Strt---1 beg permission to express my satisfaction in having The honour to report that his Majesty's sloop under my •cent- Mand this morning captared the Clinton pilot-boat schooner, No: 2-, of New-York, eighty-one tons burden, Oliver Hicks, Master, and eight men, very deeply laden with a cargo, con sisting of five hundred and fifty-seven hales of tobacco, sumo few erapes.and silks, and almall quantity of teas. Being close in with Downpatrick Head, at six o'clock, A.M. the wind` S. W.'sclually, and exceedingly thick hazy weather, the ckase commenced and vontinued with considerable interest (at times going•at the rate of ten knots) until eight o'clock, - by which time we had' chased her round Killala Bay under our fire, completely succeeded in hemming her in between Kin nisharrock Point and Puttoorbeney Rocks—the latter onlydis taut one„or•two cables' length, when we were obliged to tack-, • at the same time (in stays) bwerink the larboard quarter and stern boats, and ttrok possession of the prize. • 1 have the honour to be, &c. • (Signed) I. H. PLIJAIRIDGE., Commander. ..-N,Jl,—The Clioton is well found, coppered, and corper fait etied ; her late master avers, the " fastest sailing boat out of Americas" and may I add, the most beautiful and perfect picture- of what the Americans denominate " a clipper." I:oRear-Admiral Sir J. Rowley, Batt. K.C.B. Commander in-Chief, &c. &c. His Majesty ' s sloop Sappho, at Sea, off the Staggs of Broadhaven, 14th August, 1820. Ste—Obtaining information by a loose memorandum amongst the papers taken about the person of the late roaster of the Clinton, that a sloop named the Liberty sailed on the l nit of July from New York, with a cargo of tobacco, and finding this corroborated by the oral conununication of her inebriated crew, I deemed it expedient not only to avail myself of the information so obtained, but to turn the superior fast sailing of the Clinton to the greatest advantage for his Ma jesty's service; finding thewas very much overloaded, I lighten ed her of 90 hales of tobacco, and by so doing, made a material difference in her rate of sailing. Thus improved, armed, and furnished with a capital crew and code of signals, I decided in - my own mind the Staggs of Broadhaven to he the lutist pro bable place to intercept the sFoop iu question ; and so manag ed (with the Clinton to windward) as to he about eight miles N.W. from thoie rocks about font - o'clock A. M. of this day. • Between four and five o'clock, the land about Broadhaven bearing S.S.W. a critter was deqried W.S.W. standing in for the land, to which chase was immediately given, and the ire 'cessary signals, as per log, made - to the Clinton); for at the first view, I felt 'perfectly satilified, from her very particular appearance and wavering manceuvring, that she was t he sloop I anticipated. At 13,30, had her within reach dour guns, when a few well-directed larboard broadsides added to the Clinton's musketry to windward, made her desist from any further at tempi to escape, and I had the gratification of boarding and making prize of the Liberty, of New York, 72 tons burthen, laden with 450 bales of tobacco, George Natvig, master L. . Armstrong, supercargo; five seamen, and five calling them selves passengers; in all, twelve persons. 1 have the honour to he. &c. (Signed) 1. H. PLUMRIDGE, Commander I To Sir J. Rowley, Bart. K. C. 8., Rear Admiral of the Red, Commander in Chief, &c. &c. The following is the Letter of M. MARIETTI to his Son, alluded to in the proceedings yester day in the House of Peers " Milan, August 21, Ip2O. it DEAR Son,—The object of this my letter is only to inform You that it has been written to Colonel BroWn,'here, that you behaved yourself ill relatively to• the things which interest the Royal Court and the Princess of Vales ; for which reason you are watched to such a degree, that it has been in agita tion that a command, called the Alien Bill, should be signi fied to you to leave the country, and especially for the express reason—that you bai'e sought to discover, from this Mr. Sac chini, a Milane2e, what he had deposed against the above Royal Princess. I intimated to the Colonel the improbability of your meddling in such things, as much on account of con trary inclinations, as of your prudent and honourable mode of thinking. I also imagined that that must arise from some jealousy of your friendship. with ll:assali ; and as I cannot doubt, in the least, that you should have departed a moment fr o m your wise system, I advise you to conduct yourself in such a manner, with respect to these Royal differences, that no one may have it in his power even to imagine any thing 'reproachable on your part, whilst you have not lost sight of the Milanese proverb—' He who serves at Court dies on" straw. • • • " Endeavour, rather, that we may be paid what the Glove Royal Princess owes us for her eummission of Yorkist) at tides—paid for by us and not reimbursed .10 'Ws. I wait your answer on that subject, such as may heeibibited to the above-named Colonel., &c. &c. " Your affedionate FATHER." CHARLES FORBtS, Esq. M.P. left his house in Fitzroy-square last evening for his Seat, in Aber deenshire. PARLIAMtNIT, OUSE OF LORDS, 1,17 EDN-SDLY, SEPT. 6. of the facts which had been partially extracted by the crass-examination were allowed to be de= tailed, a witness might most unjustly be exposed to al prosecution for perjury. If a questi4n drew from him an answer, or part of an answer, and he were then stopped, it might be that wha t he had . stated was very far from being the whol.e. truth. If the Whole were allowed to be stated, that might turn out to be correct, whiCh had at . first seemed to be tinvrorthy of credit. • lie-'con.. ceived it to be theirlsordships' duty to eiidea your to extract the whole truth ; and if the wit-' ness were not allowed to state it, to hiM it ap.a peared.that he would be most injuriously'freated. This beanie the More important when they :1 - . membered . the manner in which answers were drawn from witnesses on cross-examination. ; in proof of this he need only to refer to the cross examination :of the present witness; -to show 'that in some, : instances -the questions: had been mis 7 Understood: The witness -had 'Called for expla= . nation, and then the answer given differed with what he had said . before, from his having mis understood -what he had beeniskeds His Lord ship conchided by observing, that they were bound to extract the'vvhole trutho .and not suffer the professional term " Rules of Evidencei" to prevail against so just a principle. For his owti part he shotild feel perfectly justified in putting questions to the witness, the object of which would be to bring the whole of the conversation referred to before their Lordships. The LORD CHANCELLOR proceeded to put‘the question, whether he should call in . the Counsel and inform the AttornepGeneral that the House would not permit the question in dispute to be put to the witness at the Bar. The questiOrt was carried in the affirmative without a divisions Counsel were accordingly "called in, and the. LORD CHANCELLOR informed Mr. ATTORNEY GENERAL the result of their Lordships' delibera.. tion. The witness, Guisseppi Sacchi, was ,then called in. •, THE QUEEN. ;Continuation of the Pr Ocedchngs of yesterday.] The LORD Cuastuta.ort.-4t certainly does appear on comparing the publication given in by the Learned Counsel.(Mr. Brougham) with the minutes, that a gross misrepresentation has found its way into the public prints. If you lay aside your privileges as to the publication of evidence, you must" at least' insist that thrptiblication shall .be minutely correct. As to . the publications Which have already gone forward, it may be mat ter of consideration hereafter. At present there is another quvstion before the house. • . The business was then-.`"suspended at half past eleven, id.expectation' orPie return of the Judges. , . • The Judges did not„return until ten minutes before one. • . . . . The Loan CHIEF JUSTICE said, the Judges had .carefully considered the question proposed to - them by their Lordships, and would now..cle , liver their opinions seriatim. Mr. Justice BEST was sorry to differ in opi nion from his brother Judges. But he thought criminals and ' witnesses would be, placed in a dreadful situation if a part of any conversation was admitted as evidence without the witness be, ing allowed to explain hiS motive. litver since he had the honour of a seat on the Bench, he had acted, upon his own opinion, without regard to that of others.' He could see no difference in the examination of witnesses in this case from that pursued in criminal and civil proceeding - s. In a civil action a witness was, asked what; itulticed him to say so and so in his evidence. On his re examination he ought to be allowed before their Lordships to tell all the motives that influenced him. From the experience of the House on this trial, their Lordships knew that the motives of the witnesses were obtained, from tliem by ques tions put in re-examination which could not have been put in the examination in chief. If it were not so, criminals would be placed in an awkward Q. You have stated Sou situation, and the motives of witnesses ag ainst that when you came to this country assumed the nave of Milani; why did y ou assume thatname? them would never be known. He was there- A.aclet, dof o t i t i t le t - t hisname on account of th e tumu l t which had talien pi fore of. opinion that the examination of the wit- t he danger 1 should have been in if my own name hag been known. ness ought to be proceeded in, otherwise no cau se would be safe, or no witness. The justice' of , assu me ' ha s stated that he took another n hname name; when was it be e the case could not be got at unless the wh o l e . the Na 'i t irthath apphee now at ho l d s ?-tlt was immediately after You have stated that you took an oath to depositions : when conversation was explained. He could not un- W a bouttha t aatv ~ 10 ? —ldo i not remember exactly the day ; but it was derstand how a' conversation" between two per sons could. be explained if their Lordships did On what were you sworn to that deposit ion ?—lt was offered to me by th e Advocate PoWell. not hear the whole of the conversation, and if . hat purpose ?—He told me— they- refustd to do' so, it would be laying down Mr. BROUCHAM objected t y thi e n t f ii b ig ei i n h g t r h e: t o iL e ed t ,f what Powell said. . li i s wo ti u I n d " be I a dangerous rule. 'Was any person bold enou g h rowcn iii s i . d evidence in the case, and - departing to say, that in a Court of Justice witnesses were l f; ° „ 1 , ' „ ( t )f i,! 1 , " not allowed to explain away what they had be- The LOrtD i (.7ll st AlCFrlro R said, - no doubt could exist that the witness was at liberty to state the occasion tiiion which he fore given in evidence ? - It. was but shortly since the question had been submitted to him. He had tows r. irzi l e ;i.(Go on go on !) t. — id mehe, had Ni st received a l et no cases to (incite, but if longer . time had been -Liver p ool, sa y in g it was necessary t h at 1' s h ould r b f e ro s m wor i t ' i or t d o my deposition.. given to him, he was convinced he could not have r fi . e ll a ltOUGHAM repeated his objections, and said he was found any, as the precise. question never had been justi fied . by the answer which Ited been given ; as this answer submitted to the Judges before. No man had a not only applied to Mr. Powell s ohServations, but to the COn tents of Lord Liverpool's letter. 'The course adopted by this higher opinion of the laws of the country than he tort of examination would not occur elsewhere' had, but he was of opinion that the exa mination of The LORD Cl] ANCF.LLOR.—We a re ' very often told what would i or would not be told elsewhere. Whether this is pru witnesses was too narrow, and therefore ought not to be more narrowed. He regretted the misfortune pe ' l it i te A7TTOolutrNiardGshEqEtoltA"leide. - I al the q uestion of differing from his brother Judges, but he was Pei fectly proper, as affording ' a r:as c o o n n f s e l i ' r e t n he oath ids had bound to say that the witness ought to an s w er the been taken, and contended that he had a ri g ht to inquire into the purpose and the occasion of the oath being taken.(Go.on, question. It was alWays to be borne in Mind that go on !) the facts which came out in conversatio n were not Did he say any thing more of the purpose for .which thLt • oath was taken?—Nut bung ?Ise. . to be regarded_ as facts proved. , fhe ATTORNEY-OkNERAL said he had no furl her goes . Mr. Baron GARROW, Mr. JUstice BURROUGHS, lions to ask. Did Mi. Powell say for what purpose the deposition was To Chief JuStice DALLAS, Mr. Baron GRAHAM ' and be used ?—He added nothing else. . • '.. Chief JUstice IticuAßDSseverally their sea- / gave Lord GROSVENOR —Witness has said that he was an Of- Sons in a very few words, for decid in g that the Geer in the Italia" army ; has he. arty P"Y new ?-"Ndil part question could not be put. . no l pay. %lien von were dis charged from acting in that army, did Chief Justice ABBOTT felt called upon to an- you offer your service s - to any other Government a s a soldier swen the question in the negative. He thought Alter three years 1 asked to be t aken into the service of th e - Counsel on the re-examination had a right to put troops for the King of France. • - .., Swiss Cantons, who had capitulated or agreed to furnislt all questions tending to prove' the sense of the the s What aue answer as r d l iii h y eld u igoe' ste t the to answers given an cross-examination, where these was . no vacano . y. were at all doubtful, and to set the witness right , t ‘ lt r a h t t yofapplicationl ta y ; 1 f— was I told ded there fo r ,considered that with the Court. He, however the rank of a serieant. -Did they oiler you an inferior situation ?—They offered me Counsel had no right to introduce matter new in itself, for the purpose of proving what had he l s p i i t .i customary ii e"r.i.ni with:s:, iflogo o e n te s oa i in i. t l. l e t e . s , i r t ,,.,i l l at t io ot n t,:t y t ,fi l: r i i sttii held dbre under n the d e r t curriins c o e r " been the motives of the ' witness. He thought acre-, or having their permissio l' i l i g , e a ' nil particularly wniflio-ra -I:,eartisition goi:f such t high rank as t. the Princess ?—Evetry morning I the Counsel not entitled to lead the witness intothe f carriage oti i,,, the h Royaler II Curtains drawn, i g i'lies • and 9 I :Ci e :t i t:7i u ° 11: r ; a,conversation with a third person. Such con- d _ers ; sometim es) open ; and as I was always accustomed to du so, and was never versations could only become evidence as theV reprimanded or even admonished by her Royal Highness,Cl affected the character and motives of the witness; never imagined that i had dour any thing wrong. and all beyond that was in his , opinion , ir- triedfs M t. . K pryus a i nto friend t i l e of p MademoiselleEi, pri v ate airars D , o i fiat o titheril! ) — I I ,e o 'n p r ho v_er 1 relevant. .•The LORD CHANCELLOR stated the question, (L t ' Z h gh' y i , " ,.t g i know .) the manner in which it had been raised and the not know . and Dumont friends?—Yes; I was with her in the situation in which the House then found itself family of her Royal Highness. Lord GROSVENOR —Have y on any l objection to state to and reminded their Lordships that it was for to tell him what ho was ; to direct Counsel the House the number of ' nam es ) v course of the last ten years, excludii7g u thi',7,etihtsestelomneedeallini the to do, as they were aware that the opinions of , i i . ,,.,. .. , ..hi,711 yo,i, n !rem , necessary for four personal safety ? 1 -3: the Learned Judges were not binding on the Marquis or I.l,,,),u,',::(]ii;,.l:oK:,;(l,letrN‘ale,(4,ti,in.it'iel ei r l e :‘ the i last Ii) it t the, have s t i i n e s . u mt n e ,. i that is: o 1 ‘.1, 1 o h money a .e a n s y t :1 1t e a e r s d s been .t t t l t : 7 11 . : vt.fito. feted to arrival ro i r n iy:. y ,au i l i t ti t oi r i er House. He did not set a high value on his own opinion in'such cases, as of late years he had Clot with a ri n n y pt h e u i. dy to u d p i . s i n4: been in the habit of presiding in Courts Aere . c t h o as d a is t s t aude yuu from gir oral testimony could be received ; and he there- ing your evidence ' ?—No, no bo d y ie me; I have had nu coannunication l h ii i e o c v, t , . lon, is it since you became acquainted with Marietti? fore thought it would be safer for their Lord- s u ships to rely on , the opinions of the Learned Judges who sat in these Courts ; but he must —Sit I sit: e e n m :y i a m r i c k i Yeal: at i t t 1.-ig Milanl ati ? d__. It is said so; I never had any confess that he had been long in way as to the thing ,„ do with , him rule established in them, if they would not ad- Who is the Marietti Sou are acquainted wit h in London ? ;nit the whole of the conversation art of which , I know three hi ot hers, Mariettrs,in Lo n do n . h You have said that Marietti knew of your hyin g a witness had been brought before them to be given in as in this charge ?—I have said Marietti 'knew I was a fitness evidence. when I told him so. .. - , SHINE objected to receiving the con- Did any of time markti Lord FR versation, and adopted the negative - which the is ,wake any proposal to you, touch ing- t . he evidence you were to give in this cause?—One of the Mai iettas came to me at my lodgings, and told me that he was Judges put on the question. directed by Mr. Biougham, brother to the kttorne •-(' ei Ai , was with considerable diffidence he offered n Lord. REDESDALE begged to observe that It to the Queen, (who had called . upon him that ' mornitZ n and ~ , e t th o o t al utt d i inauired if „t he I,.new me,) to learn from me any thing the ileen. lartetti added," the Messrs. Broughams opinion against thationifptrheseselid,eawriiitehdthjeuipt7ol,ribeautt ' have served me . , while 1 had tralisautions with her tt.y.A f- ) lig tress, nod 1 should like also to do them s irne service ; he was so strongly . 1 Lti thatie.f ii r i e c l i, tu t ei,!lat)smau friendeeat it t . is t In not to dissuade)to sa yl best' if t o o m i i d i ft , i i r t ;ll , of putting to the witness the question now in Y dispute, that he could not suffer the House to what you intended. I also represented to :11r. trougliatii (tbo brother to the Attorney-General to the Qneen,; that I would 'dispose of its discussion without offering his • 1 of the case. The principle laid down was, Itlielavt nut commit myself, nor did I w;sh the parties to commit them give evidence seives;" and he added, that as Ministers had not granted a the witness should be made to tell the truth, and ti.,. , t ,t o e i . n .:•i t t i i i i a ts t s , s , e .e s, s h o o r u t i l: i e l i t k o e •a t d o s h 1 ) , !, w t f t meern you,charges i y against ~,1 know 111,..,1: at all, if they called upon him to tell the whole truth. wdoe,ses, or the number of tleem, arid if y •it can inform us he ought to be alldwed to s wi.: l 4;;l, t altho . ugh I knew something , I would not tel it, 4, i t of any thing alto the depositions they are to make. 1. sii,- His Lordship observed, that the object of a cross-k new itio o n i t s ) e o w t i b t t o r es i sj y t i h_at I knew examination was to discredit a Wetness, 'and that of no de . p l o n sTti t o r i n t e t:i i t il ' e a m t u l l :I Du l y gis e etti added, that it was wished to know so lunch, i ' t e' d1"-ni of a re-examination, by filling up his testimony, prepare fur the taneen'a defence; and again askedrue , l" ejictor was to restore his credit. Unless m then the wholeu new something a!tout the depositious; ai' - a l • , - I again assure d um . ' Re.c.rumination resumed by' the ATTORNEY-G E- NERAL. jr ~~~y I, ;eVe 4 v eral