The Sun. — London, England, 1815-02-21 00:00:00

'lt. 1, 7 iiot iii ityplic+l The ';'ax wAs jili~ ii ti)lt;ir ill tlic as I Yt : . ii ;U fiii fore t'le l'yorch of "to_ State timir taitii, ilk before ;Ile Income Titx de , :14H1 ,- ;1) of ti)i:ir Afidirs. The Ciiiio6 4 llur Ut tlie l xc!►etltier seemed to ivislithi: Inc,;nie Tax to tliteiit.a , ;..; with hotlour. lie Orr. Laving) ",;,-;tdd, never Agree too such a Lox, except- in some prir.nliar crisis, wherein the vital interests or the ptsible suhjugation of the country was at hazard. Russ could not pa y s tins queition without floine observations. Conhrthe mind of man ha've de: ised a letter expedient for improvitg the rum:lces .of the country than the original Income .1.a:;, as propol.;ed by Mr. Pitt ? Soon after 179?, ttte hinds were in such a state that *the -I per Cents. v..sfru at 47, and 'there was no possibility 'of "the p - er Cents. ei - er reaching 30, but by the tue,a st rc adopted. fie . thought, thitt . after the war the :ax ought to expire ; but it did not follbw, under particular circumstances, that Parliament 1!.ould not, for a time, renew it. - Mr. C. GI/ANT said, that if the systeriiof finance 4 which bad b ee n so s t rong ly recommen d e d by Gen ilemen on the other side had been adopted, not 'only the war taxes but a part of-the Property :Tax would have now been mortgaged. As to the Property Tax, (which had been 'resigned) many cutleruen appeared to feel about it as Falstaff fr ? d about Percy--" he was 'afraid of th:it gun p-owder Percy, even although he' was dead.'' As to th'e term unconstitutional, if it had been ()ilk, supported by Mr. Pitt and his admirers, he should pot have been surprised at. the Gety.lenen who 'usually differed from him Calling it noconst itutionai. Those Gentlemen, howeyer, who had generallyvot -ed with Mr. Fox, and:supportedthe inFrease.of that tax to 10 per cent. could. hardly conceive that Alr. would have so greatly increased a tax that he considered nnconstitutionaL It was called un parliilmentary to vote supplies befOre a fail state ment•had been made of what would be our na7al . and military expenditure. It was evident, how ever, that itt the present circumstances of the country, this \vas absolutely impossible fcir the Chancellor of the Exchequer to do. ' Mr. PREE:NIANI.g could not conceive that such an enormous sum iIS nineteen mi;lions and an half cquld properly he called a peace establishment vet this was the stun which the Minister. required , for four years. In the year 1786, three years after the American war, the whole revenue of the coun try was not inure than, fourteen millions and , an half. The numbers o of our army in Europe was now much greater than, in tO. tune of the Duke of Marlborough, our, army_ and that . of all our allies amounted to. The expenditure on account t, i r the army was incomprably greater. What re ward was now given to the people of this, country ftir the fortitude and patience they had exhibited in bearing, the burdens of, a twenty years'., war ? The only boon that we proposed to give'jheni was eleven millions of taxes, and to raise the price of the staple commodity of human life: Flint re duction did we see taking puce I None. The2tlili tia even were not wholly reduced. It was scarcely 4 hours gince we had beard of gOO,OOOl. to be spent on a new Post-office. The people, to whom we owed so. much gratitude, now found that Peace iirought no alleviation to their burthens. .• "Mr. flusylsgot4 said, flat the Hon. Gentleman who had just sat down, had been extremely warm, and had exhibited that warmth on a most delicate point. Did he really wish to tell the people out of doors, that the only boon for diem was increased - Taxes and expenses of life ? When the Resolutions came to he debated, he should be glad to hear his reastmsfor those assertions. This was, in some points, the most extraordinary discussion on finance that he had ever Leard. Many would be led - to suppose, from the manner in which some Gen tlemen had stated the question, that the nister had proposed the ways and means before the question of Supply bad been voted, and that be was proposing taxes which were to last four years, without being exposed to any revision-from Parliament. As for the Chancellor of the Ex chequer not being immediately prepared to _pre sent estimates, it was evident that in the piesent circumstances it was impossible. If peace was firmly established, every paper and.every . estithate that Gentleman could desire would certainly be laid before the House. His Right ,Hoa. Friend had been asked, what diminution of the prOduce or the taxes would probably .take place. He, for his, part, did not apprehend a great diminution'. He thought al , o, that the remission of nine millions of tykes this . evening would give to many the means of increased expenditure and consulliption. ofarticles paying taxes. Mr. PONSON3Y tbat, upon the report shouH certainly taree the sense of the House on the principle of the resolution, before he entered into the consideration of the details. Before the question was put on the first re soli4tloo, Lord MaTox wi*d to ask the Right llon. Gentleman, now Secretary„for Irclaiid, whether the prOls of the. Governor of the Cupu of Good' Hope exceeded 12,000/. annually Mr. Per.t. said, that, to the best of his rccol. ketion, when he was in the Office of Tinder Se-' cretary of State, the emoluments of the Civil Go-. vvrtior vVere 12,000/. a year ; in addition to which there rere the emoluments Of Commander-in- Chief. Lord MILTON then wished_ to know, whetlier same'person had now the two offiee'of Civil and nilitary Governor Mr. zaid, that/as to. the gNpense of the Civil Government of the Cape, the cirmunsfances cg the eplony were mtftieient to defray it. He be lieved that they not only paid .the expense of the Civil 'government, but the - ex.pense of the Cape regiment also. - Mr. I,3AraNG asked the Chancellor of the 'Ex chequer, whether the dividends payable in July next would be liable to. the deduction o f the Pro , • perty , • r • The CIIANCELLOR of theExcuncluEa said, that he believed not. lie understOod thati would be the deduc tion* to he made half-yearly, was what called in law an un di v id e d sum., of which, if the whole was not due, no part could be said to he due,, • Sir W. G F , AR y spoke againq the imposition of Stich ht.:tvf taxes io o time olpf.ne , .!. Mr. TicgN asked the Cisanaellor of the Ex- `citttneVbOir the Jilted on to in'eet the Loan, and- hoW much it was for 'sfitliiii to 4z. - raised xvithin the . yea Thio...fiN', - .;! , .L.T.,01 - ; of ' tote g!Vfint'CLUER he was p"z:cfia red to ans:ver. suid that was ' , exa , :tly ‘‘, 11 .13 . t be expected. It tray a sort of hoots par - s, in which thancelim"olthe ExChetin e r proposed a litre sum, without being able to state tvltat it was vt-Inted for. The Ceason that be wished 'oarticit larly to lie informed on this point %%NIS, that s'vhai tve'r was - Voted merely for the interest of the loan of the 'year, went on one principle ; witeYeas everything that went to raise the supplies for the year within the year went on another. The till lerenee was between a war system of taxation and a peace system. lie never could vote the. Iyays and Means in a lump, withbut being able to see clearly upoil what principle of taxation Mi nisters were proceeding. Alter a pretty long conversation, the Resolu tions were agreed to, and the Report ordered to be received to-morrow. PoNsoNtit expressed a wish that these Re solntions should be printed, The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER conceived this to be unusual. lie certainly wished that Members should have sufficient time to con sider them, hut it would be very -.inconve nient to - in:ilze any unnecessary delay in. passing Taxes which were to replace these that would. expire on the sth Of April next. should, how ever, have no Objection to their being printed atter the report was received. There would be then time for sufli;:ient consideration. • The Freehold Estate Bill was read a second thus, and committed for to-morrow.—Adjourned, t L\ J .S. An fl rEI)-1 niif,lin , I Itratertord. flue-1 Franc , !, I Lis . boa, _1 ALtlta, Hainburt.th, I Hoiland,:.l Gottenburgh; I Guernsey and Jersey, t Waterford. PRICE sTct:Ks - THIS DAY Al TWELVE.: o'CLOCK, . . Bank Stock, 1 Bank 1.. Ann: l•qN• 5-16ths a per cent. Red. 64,111. • I liliiia 13onlis, 12s. pr. .3 per Cent. Cons. a 4•1 1 19 Excheq. Bills; -2.5. ss; pr. 4 pct . Crnt. Cons. Rl l l ,ll • Otnninln, i 3 ttS. • - . 5 per Ct.NaryAnn. 9:q-, 9493; Coos. for Acoannt., 6.5 G 4 HIGH WATER AT LosnoN 13111flt3E TO-MORROW. Morning, 56 minutes after 12. Evening, 21 minutes after Fri E su N sor,EM Qt/IR DICERE. FALSUM ATJDEAT ? LONDON, TUESDAY, FEBRUdRY 21, 1815. The StUry Oldie Culprit Atilto was so extremely dissatisfied with the flogging administered by an Irish Drummer, is, we imagine, familiar to our Readers. He first - blamed hint for striking too low ; then for strikiug too high'; while the good. natured fellow, at every appeal, endeavoured to accommodate the complainant by varying the mode of applicatiOn, till, at length, ►worn out by the fruitlessness of the attempt, he exclaimed, " by my soul, there's no pleasing you, strike where one will!" There is something of the same kind in the imposition of new taxes, in which there is no pleasing' people, lay them on where you will, and the only difference between the Finance Ali- . nisteand the'prtinuner's case is, that in the for titer we never hear any - nOntplaint of _his hitting too low. By the. report of the icrliamentary Dis cussion it will be seen that we have been strictly accurate in the communications we have made to the Public on the, subject of the New Taxation., The amount is Five Millions., as'it stated it would be, in THE SUN of Thursday last; and it will be observed, that the remarks in which we indulged on Saturday week respecting the pro priety of Government interfering to protect the public from the 'Beer monopoly, have not been thrown out in vain, as Mr. ViNSITTART gave Mr. WUITBREAD a very plaid hint upon the sub_ . ject, which the latt er t oo k very crustily. We re joice to observe, however, that the Brewers of London are at last shamed out of the exorbitant prices which a monopoly of licensed houses has . enabled them so long to impose. We presume that Porter, &c. will be cheaper to-morrow than it' was yesterday, 01 the Neer Taxes it is not easy to speak.— Ministers are so' much better informed than we can pretend to be—they have so' nicely weighed cvcry scheme that ingenuity could suggest, or to which the sense of want Could stimulate the inVen tion—and they have so naturally selected those objects which, theythiuk will be least felt and most produCtive, that it would appear somewhat pre sumptuous to, entertain any great _difference of opinion. There are, however, one or two Taxes propw3erl,' the - efficacy of which we extremely - question: We .doubt the estimated productivenes's Of the Dog Tax and- the Game Certificates—and welhainent thc necessity of the. further Imposts upon Inhabited !louses, Warehotiks, and Ware house Windows.. The Penny on Newspapers (the matter with which we lire best acquainted) will, if elllirced, we are firmly convinced, be the source .of certain loss to the revenue.-- There are few articles in the Country more heavily taxed than Newspapers already are. Surely th e n there wasnr; grettt temptation presented- tci lay an additional 17 per cent. : on what is already, in .T. 6 l'atlitt;Vi ;et Statrir Duty !pore than half its valtte, at - 410 Ailvertiy.einents, Stamps, &c. t?) an excs-r: The AMU - stet- w'e tfitist~ 'cot: sider,. that of every single leVvspiPer which might be disconeimied in COnsequtuce of &Is new bur`th6, revenne icijl line ino a tha'n it wilt gain by the additional Penny on a hun dred—and the period when the consumption of the:commodity has, from the nMure, of public kfi s itirs much decreased, is in our inind's ill eloS'en for an increase of An opening to the Continent ought rather to be made, than any home avenue stopped, and this would produce more than the 50,000 now required by leSs competnibie means. The T xis 'also objection . - able as being - partial- falling upon the Evening and not,the Morning Papers., St • Ve .1i i0l)lli The Peace Establishment is taken at 19 millions, including two millions for Ireland.—We wish to 'Heaven a modified Property Tax were fairly levied' to meet it. It is the only sound political mea sure after all. Extro(l of 2 Litter from hyri.firipal Offierr of it!,t Aftrjesty's ski illojest;i7-,-dated rff New London, the 24,'h len. 181 5. •:` The President was hound to the island of Pulo Aor, to anize Against onr trade beta-eett Bombay and China, And would doubtless, under such a wan as I)ECATtJn, done flinch mischief. lie . had several . 4 \lasters of Anietican East India Ships .on board as Pilots and Volunteers— had seven month's provisions.''he crew were to have been put on two-thirds . alowarice the day succeeding the capture, which would have enabled thina-to hold out for ten months and a ball." The F wourite sloop of war, lIorL Capt. MAutn, which took out the, Ratification of, Peace \ifith AtiteriCa, was spoken with on the 27th ult. to the northward of Bermuda ; her passage up - to this period was very favourable, hut she had just hcgnu to experience the north-we's't gales which blow ships from off the American shores during the winter months. Another account states,that the Fai:ourite .vas spoke❑ with on the 23d ult. in Lat. 37. Long. 60. , • It is said, in several of the Newspapers, but without the least authority, that Lord STEWART is to be our Ambassador at Paris in the room of the Duke of .WELLINGT - 9N, and that it is supposed the latter will be appointed LOltD LIEUTENAZ4T OF IRELAND. 'rule folloWing . are extracts from Brussels Pa pers,,B7.c. received this inornirlg. We have no ar rivals from Fro [KC to-day : BRUsSI.S, FEB. 15.—At the moment that all the English and Hanoverian Officers had received orders to repair to their regiMents in Belgium, other orders have arrived within these two days from the British Government, recalling all . the Officers belonging-to the Stall: of English Army ih Belgium. In consequence of:this, all those Officers whose regiments are in England Are to join them immediately, and they are. al ready preparing to depart. This ` measure an nounces a state of peace, and it js-said, that when the new Govitrnment is proclaimed, the, foreign troops now in Belgium -will all leave it : it seems that this event, so desirable for us, is. 'not far off, it is expected that hit the difficulties which delay the decision of our .fate,. will be removed in the beginning of the month of March. Letters front Luxemburg state, that the greatest part of tic Prussian staff, which was in that place, as / well as some ..corps of infantry belonging to the garrison; are gone to Treves, which is now the grand head-quarters of the Prussian army in. these eouritr:es. Something has been reported about the sale of the military magazines in Liix emburg, but it is now known for certain, that they ale to be delivered entire to the Power to whom this province will belong. Since the great movements of the Prussian troops between the Rhine, ,the 'Moselle, and the igaese, all is quiet"; . the cantonMJnts are dimi nished, and the inhabitants begin to feel them selves greatly relieved, If we believe some re ports, which appear well foulicled,. the Prussian Monarchy will not extend itself beyond, the for- . • tress of Juliers. ' Lord Castlereagh is expected hcrc every mo ment ;, the vessel which expects him at Ostend is ready to sail at a moment's warning. It is, how, ever, very likely that he may go by way of Hol land, and that for very important reasons.— (Haarlem courant, Feb. l8.)- BREAD.--This day, at•aCourt of Alderinen, it was Ordered that an advance of One liallpenny.in the price of the Quat•tern Loaf should take place. on Thursday next. The- ParNcE REGEST returned to town -from Windsor, on Su n d a y n i g h t. Yesterday the Duke of Yoloc. transacted business with his RoyaLfiiglii ncss. 'Viscount MELvILLE had an audience of the. kin xc . I:!;,PEtITION TO 'FAVORL,EANS. fAdditieie:-0 r4rticult;ts.] Atter the Naval A.ctiOil, 2,000 troops were landed near New Orleans. The enemy, 81 " 1-it 7,000 -s•troug', wits posted with the Alksissippi on his rii ) .!:!!, aud a wood - on his' left. In the nigh t cif the `..Alzt DeceMber, a schooner of 16 gun"- dropic . d dowa the river, and commenced a litoy fire upon our men. The enemy attacked -01 ,ir force Of 2,000 then with his 7;000, on the.22d of December, but, aft'er flArp action, was bc,Jea in all dircctk:n . c. We lust 250, inert, and ofleers. • Colonel STovrN was wwounded • neck ; Captain Ur ALRIS,Aide-de- , Camii, was 1, in r-'`'• After this success, ire landed sonie gulls and stroycd the schooner in a short time with red 7 hot shot. General LAN BERT landed with two' regimeorg final England on the 29th of .Decentber ; and .c ll the ist Of January, a heavy_firing washeaid by . a vessel which left the coast on that day. • Another account brought by tin - -; wail says, that on the sth of January out artillery •Nvert - !- breaching.a tnanding fort, which the troops expected to storm that !light; on the fall of which New Or eat must sto rendet, as it is . incapable of making all/ defence against the force which w"r.s advancing against it: It w4S repined that New Orleans. had fallen . 0 3 th e 15, t h January. • - It is r►►mourerl that Sir .TAMES 717.0 has had ari encounter with the Atuericansim the ice, on 1.:d0 Ontario, — where our sea►►►en. defeate - -.1 the enepif cutlass in; tand ; it is added, that the Antericau 4 suffered v,ery severely. The two American Islands which have /teen taken by our Expedition front New Piovidence are, ist, Cumberland 'lsland, on ,the. Coast of Geo'' gia,. between Prince William's Sound at the sout4 end ; and the motilli - of the Great Saila river at 1 15 north end, and twenty miles south of the town "t . Frederica, which was built by General .oGbfs' THORPE, in,Glynn County, Georgia. There is small fort on this Island which commands thc en' trance to Amelia's Sound.-2d, St.-. Mary's, small isle, situated a few miles from the mouth of the river of that name, which in part dividc 4 Georgia from East Florida. At :2:tocktiohn the Government paper has tii min,ished in value. Tbe exchanges had Colisidcr" ably declined, that of Gottcuburtib was, rj" : ' doilars, 8.40. The Peace which was made at Paris by the con' quering AUied Poteltates, teas, befote the' 1314 clay alt June, known in India. Great praise i t ! due - to Ministers on this uceonnt, as it was of big" . iloptirtance to have that tact I<qown in our iu;,4iall possessions as early as possible. There cOuld 1 5" no certainty,t hat the swiftest frigate in Engh", chnld reach Ceylon in less than four months ; b" by torwayling the news, thron:o Turkey, Per - i" awl down the Persian Cliph, it arrived et it• 3 (j`' tination in little more flout are weeks. This is a proof of the respect paid to the British 13' 01 and character in those he re t o for e unfriendly StPtes,_ Oil Sattarday the 'flag of Rear-Admiral .2(fir r " second in command at Portsmouth, %Vat? Ott r oti ; sequence of the Peace reduction,) struck on bor'' the Gladiator. Flour rose last week ss. per sack at Canterbur , ' , and a proportionate rise in bread was expected; bltt the Mayor haring fixed the A s size from o( average price averag of Wheat, instead of Floor, bre .3 - ; fell on Thursrly in that' ci:v sd. in the pec% I° s ; This produced a general. con4rernation among Bakers,. who affirm - they are now consider orb losers by every sack of flour they bake. The brewers througho u t the County of have lowered their-beer Id. per qu4t. A Correspondent writes from Dahlia, that tt l eonseilneHce of Messrs. GwINNESs and Co , CONOLLY ou t CO. of that pity having on F ri '!:, the 10thinst. lowered the ini e es 0 1 th e ir por E ` h -.- e 10 , per- barrel, - the same ihitig was done rest of - the Brewers ; a course ivell worthy tlie ' l l - ( 5 mediate attention of th e P orter B rewers in tj Metropolis. eir The Board of Agriculture co t nmenced Sessions last week, at their house street, at which the Earl of 1 - lARDwICKE. rr y " • ' A few days since, 210 whales came ashore 4t the Island of Tyree, tneattring from 12 f° feet, the whole of which were killed. e 5 During the homeward pa s s age o f the lirio c o f I\lary packet, from Jamaica ; Lieut. C l usnA. , c ,l the NaYy, was struck by:lightning, which catt y hls death instantaneously. Two fine _children, playing on board the J" s l in Hamoaze, fell down the' Hatchway. them was killed on the spat, and the- other "- e , guished until the next morning. They bbt ij longed to the boatswain of the Jason. loci" On Tuesday evening last, at about five d c the postboy with the Mail-bags from CappP t r; c or Tallow, and Limnore, for Fettnov, r,l o l )tj that town," and robbed of the bags, by son le lains, who have escaped for tlve.\pi.e.eat ~c rt A Posting reduced to Is. 3d. per Mite on the 1 ; 105 , Road, to. and from London, et the folluwiog. t l o g viz.:—The A nge l, S t il ton ; F oun ty, 1 1 °' don ; Crown, Caxton tlardwiclie Aror - -, 1 011 rington ; .Red Lion, Royston ; W de's 00, Saracen's Head, W are ; an d Th e F o ur S' IValt l .am-Cross. a ~" • COAL MARKET, FEB. CO. • '• Ships at I ; .larket. Ships sold. pi ! ce t, 117 Newcastle lO2 ..425. Cd• t° 4 5. Sunderland • • ID 41s. 1 Stor.e Coal 1 .1004: 04 1 . t" La" of i;3Ri fi'~. On the 17th inst.' atActrin-Hor.se, Middlesex, 0 I', G. B. Kelly, Esq. of a daughter. ysterdaytioraing, in Woburti-p:ace, the LadY> f' Clement, Esq. of a st,n and heir. ... , DI E 6. • e • 0 n r 1 gr. • C.ln the 2d inst. at his house at Hatiimersniitb4 • Sheai.gohl, Solicitor, aged 87. LONDON: -Printed b CAR yJ. B. STATP.S, No• vr i% t i ; ' , Of < and pnliiished-by W. A. SCR:PPS, o A m•el,j, at, thy SUN-T)FIPICE, No.. 112, Strand ; where le e' .h,tntA,.Ortieri,l4tier4 friost-naidl ax must I%c