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• ±- 4 - . PROVINCIAL JOURNALS. We have before remarked, that as the Con. doctors of the Provincial Journals hare more iei-ttre for reflection than those of the Metropo li, who,are called every day to their task, they _ . . tire more 'likely to give mature consideration to the nature and tendency of passing measures and '-events, and to suggest stich observations as may 1w entitled to the attention of Government and of the -People i❑ general. We also before hinted ' that se-, eral of the Provincial Editors appeared to he - much • better (iialitied , to diScuss matters of general interest than most of those in town.— We;are, not inclined to recant ,this opinion, and the following judicious and temperate observal tions will Serve to confirm it. *We - shall therefore persevere considering it as a public duty,to support th4,department of our miscellany, as well as that selatiing to the Extracts from the London Jour nals,'°Thr which we have received the thanks of our Coiii.ify Readers in many Quarters. ( FromTrniirming - hant Chronicle of Thursday hut.) " Annars's*,4o: the , QUEEN have been pre sented from- se aft since „pur last, and 3:Live aftbrded her Majesty new opportunities of - expressing her feelings and her opinions ; not much, as we presunie,,ta the furtherance of jus- Lice ; and still less to the promotion of that ob ject which she professes to have so Much at heart, establishment in the affections of the•people. Mi Majesty does not know, and the, little knot 'of wise men and staunch Pairiofr ,b,y.whp m s h e 'is surrounded have taken god care not to inform ber, that the people of Engjand have as yet ex pressed no opinion upon the subject ; and cer:. tainlv have shewn no symptom whatever of that affeCtion, to which, even before her trial, her Ma jesty is so anxious to appeal from the sentence of hear Judges. " The PEOPLE of ENGLAND are not accu stomed to forni their judgment hastily, or to ex liresS ft rashly. Certain bawling orators in common halls or on scaffolds in the open air may do both, and their factious hearers and followers may applaud them to the echo ; but the PEOPLE of ENGLAND generally regard -all such proceed itirs with silent scorn.; or, when they do speak, .5.. they express sentiments for the most part diame trically opposite to. those which such officious praters would impute to them. If her Majesty had one true friend near her, he would' ell her this. He would assure her that these Addresses, which she now receives so readily, and answers so indiscreetly, afford no•proof whatever of the real feeling of the country towards her : that, on the contrary, they tend to degrade her in its opi nion, .by separating her frOm the noblest, the wisest, and the best of her fellow-subjects, and connecting her with the mere scum-of .the politi cal cauldron,: the vile and worthless party which temporary distress, and an hour of peril and co:1 7 fusion, threw up to the surface. - • " Her Majesty, however, has been otherwise advised ; and her friends have thought, that her cause would he served by encouraging these ad dresses, by receiving them graciously, and reply ing to them in terms which we. cannot better characterize than by saying, that they remind us more forcibly of Spa-fields and Manchester than of the mind of Princes, or the dignified language of a Court. " It may then be fairly asked, what do these Addresses prove ? and, when the question has Iteen as fairly answered, it will then be evident that THE PEOPLE OF ENGLAND have not yet shewn a disposition to belie their usual discreet and manly conduct, by prejudging a question so soon to be tried by the highest and most venera ble Tribunal of the Country. The . persons who have prepared, .proposed, or signed these Ad dresses, are for the most part of an order which eludes inquiry by its obscurity. They certainly cannot be said, by any figure of speech, to re , pre:-.at the dignified classes of the community: 'for have they much claim to property, since the ,fir and equal division of estates, so much and so eagerly sought some, months ago, seems to be de ferred for the present. Their education, their learning, their Constitutional' knowledge, have been rendered so apparent by the style and mat ter of their Addresses, that no doubt can remain on that subject ; and we believe that her Majes ty's friends may congratulate her on having been chiefly eulogized, condoled with, or congratu lated, as the humour was, or the vein of thought would serve, by a class of persons as free from the pollutions of rank, wealth, dignity, I:2arning, or consideration in the. Country as the most tho rough-paced Radical could wish. So much for the Addresses themselves; and then there is a tale about their presentation which speaks no good tidings to a reflecting mind. In some few instances the duties of. an official sta tion have forced respectable men to perform the ungrateful task ; but wherever it could be avoid . ed, they have uniformly declined: One man has . been called into the country by business which . unfortunately admitted of no delay;' and others, with more becoming manliness of character, have directly refused to become the instruments of et pressing sentiments before her Majesty ) which they did not feel; and which, if they, did feel Ahem, would have incapacitated them for the ho . - nest performance of more importantduties. " One word more upon the places from whence. these 'Addresses have been forwarded, and we • will leave the subject to the reflections of our readers. -We have yet heard nothing of County Meetings, where the REAI fi pR OPERV,K, the LAND ED INTEREST of the Counyy, is -wont. to speak. We have seen no Address from the GREAT' COM -3.IERCI AL BODIES, where 0111' MERCHANTS who' vie 'with PRINCES, not only in wealth or luxury, • ..but in knowledge, in honour, in integrity, record their opinions. " The Universities of the - Gguntry,. the repre ;sentatives of its learning, htive R.O ; yet exp ressed their sentiments. The CLERGY, the guardians of its religion, are also silent ) -and the respectable leaders of the different deribrhinations of DisS EN IERS are content to !elite the final determina-• , Con of this momentous' ';question to •' the :incoi ruptible integrity andl impartial justice of the High Court of Parliament " But, on the other hand, Preston, which could furnish some hundreds, perhaps thousands of voters for Mr. Orator Hunt, and Nottingham, and Wakefield, and some more towns of equal celebrity, have found persons able to write, and perhaps to spell an Address: and though last, not least, the usual managers of such matters in the Metropolis have contrived to gain a share in the honour of a smile, and a curtsey, and a 0-ra ciouS answer for the City of London. Tiiese things . speak volumes on the subject; and they ought to convince her Majesty that she, is pur suing a perilous course; that she is alienating the affections of the Country while she professes to conciliate them ; degrading her high station and herself with it, and depriving herself' as far as she can of a fair trial, and of the . benefits which she would otherwise derive from the full establishment of her innocence, should' such be its result. The People of England will never feel affection for a Queen whom they cannot re spect ; and their respect has not hitherto follow= ed those who have condescended beneath their station, to court the base and fleeting popularity which mobs can give ; but persons who, regard less of all considerations but those of honour and virtue, have held on their steady course, more desirous of meriting than. of receiving the meed of public approbation." PARLIAMENTARY PAPERS. EXTRA POST. COPIES OF ALL 111ENIORIALS. &c. (No. L)—Copy of a Letter, dated 27th July, 1819, from the Secretary to the Treasury to the Postmaster General. Treasury Chambers, 27th July, 1819. _ _ • •• My Loans-1 am.commanded by the. Lords Commissioners of his Majesty's Treasury - ,,t0 transmit 4 to your Lordships a Letter from Mr. Henry Liurgess i ,tlated the-27th February last, • submitting a Plan for the more expeditions Conveyance of the Mail by establishing au Extra Post, and I am to acquaint you th a t m y Lords have received strong Representations (loin se veral manufacturing and commercial Towns, stating the ad, vantages of such a Plan as these Papers suggest, and -their Lordships therefore request that you will take the sttbject into your immediate and serious consideration, with the view to the trial of such an experiment as may ascertain its prac ticability, and enable 'their Lordships to form a judgment whether the ex pence which it might occasion would overba lance.its advantages. ram, my Lords, &c. &c. S. It. LUSHINGTON. . The . Postmaster General, &c. &c: (No. ll.)—Copy Of Reply of Postmaster-General to the Lords of the Treasury, dated itith August, 1819. To the Right Honourable the Lords Commissioners of his Majesty'.s Treasury. My Lords—We have to acknowledge the receipt of Mr. • Lushlogf o •n s Letter of the 27th ultuno, transmitting, by your Lordship's directions, a Letter from Mr. Henry Burgess, submitting a Plan for the more expeditious conveyance of the Mail by establishing an Extra Yost; and acquainting us that your Lordships have received strong Representations from several Manufacturing and Commercial Towns, stating the advantages of such a Plan:as those Papers suggest; and your Lot dships therefore request that we will take the subject into oar immediate and serious consideration, with the view to the trial of such an experiment as may ascertain its prac ticability, and enable your Lordships to form a judgment whether the expences which it might occasion would over balance its advantages. We beg to ekpress our utmost readiness to obey your Lord ships' directions, with the view to the full and fair t•-ial of such an experiment; and as Mr. Burgess lays great. stress opon the nature of the earrtiaues and harness, and the parti cular description of horses necessary for this set vice, we con ctive that the best 'mode of giving the measure its full force would be for him to make the contracts; and we can assure your Lordships, that be shall have every facility in the ptwer of this Depariment to afford in furtherance of the saute. It is our duty, however, to submit certain particulars, upon which.ive Bate to req6est your Lordships' instructions, before the same c3ll be carried into effect. The expellee of the Extra Post six slays in the weer; to Man chest era iist , Li verpool, assuming thht tobe the road upon which Mr. Burgess might wish the experiment to be tried would be at the s.al c of 5,30 - 71. per annum, at 2s. t;d. per mile, for which sum - he conceive - s h would be accomplished, although we hive doubts npon this point. If that sum is nut meant to include the wages of Guards, 1-lorseheepess, the hire or erection of stabling, &c., the expence must be considerably greater; • It will be necessary first to decide whether any town in the direct line of the experiment can be denied the use of the Extra Post. If all are nut to be included. then to specify what Towns tbe proposed measure is to embrace. It should also , he ascertained whether. the Plan on its rettun should embrace the whole of the MetropOlis, and the District of the Twopenny Post, or whether there are to be certain Boun daries in London, beyond which its operation is nut, to ex trod. The Boundaries of the General Pint Delivery are so exten sive, that-there would be scarcely time. for the reply of Let ters from the extremities ; and if the Plan is to be applicable to the Twopenny Post, it will be necessary to dispatch fresh men and horses into those Districts with the Letters. It will be necessary also precisely to define what the prac tice.is to be at towns in the Country, in the neighbourhood of some of which, though ioclnded in the bags for the Town, the Letters are served by Penny Post, —Liverpool and Man chester particularly are in this predicament. There must of necessity be a di.tinct Office for the purpose of the Extra Post, as it would be impossible to carry - ors that duty at the same time with the receipt and dispatch of the regular Mails of the Country. We hope that for the purpose of the experiment of sin Extra Post, we May possibly be enabled to perform the fluty without anj• additional nuu►her of Clerlis, by plaeing,on extra duty : some of those now employed ; if it should hereafter be made per►nanent, we must have additional Otlicers. It is dif ferent with respect to the Letter Carriers; we have none but what are fully and entirely occupied in the general de livery of Letters., There must be additional Clerks at some, and Letter Car riers at all the towns included in the measure. We presume the flanking privilege must not he suffered to extend to the Extra Post, otherwise all franked Letters will be sent by it ; and it Will be an additional inducement to per sons to obtain Franks. • We presume that an Act of Parliament will be necessary before even the experiment can be tried ; as we have not the power to demand any rates beyond those established by Law, let our mode of conveyance be what it may. In such case we trust, that before the Meeting of Parliament we shall have obtained the opinion of those Officers; both here and in the country, whom we arc desiruus to consult upon a measure of so much consequence and novelty; and - that we shall be en abled to report fully to your Lordships as to the expediency and prohable effects of the Plan in all its . bearings. If, however, your Lordships should be of opinion thit Legislative enactment is not necessary for the trial of the experiment, we shall not fail, upon receipt of your Lord ships' directions and instructions upon what Road it is to be tried, and upon the other points abovC stated, to proceed therewith and endeavour to further the Plan to the utmost. • We have stated thils'much as to the 'experiment; and al though we cannot, for the reasons above mentioned, enter so minntely into the " immediate consideration" of the Plan as Your Lordships have directed, we feel it necessary to point out some errors in Mr. I3utgess's Calculations, which have presented themselves to us upon the face of it. He assumes that the Extra Post will convey one-fourth of the actual number of Letters now carried by the General Post. The fourth part of the Letters at Manchester and Liverpool (which we select for the purpose of elucidation), he takes at t,lOO per day—the real fourth is much under one half of his computation. - In further proof, he expects to con vey 600. Letters to aryl from Manchester daily. The whole number of Letters of all - descriptiOns between London and Manchester, even including the vicinity of bcrth places, does not exceed 784 daily. Mr. Burgess also calculates the produce upon 365 Posts-in the course of the year, having made no allOwance for Sun days, whereas there are but 313 Posts to and front •Lunduo, which reduces the'whole amount one-seventh. gr:ilorgess proposes in his Memorial to convey the Extl'a Mail "at the rate ) including all stoppages; of 11 miles , an 'hour, a rate whichlfe trusts is shorn in his Plan to be quite practicable, without distressing the horses." In the table of that Plan, the calculations of the advantage to the towns are made , at the rate of 11 miles and a half an hour ; and it is necessary to draw your Lordships' attention particularly to that fact, as it regards Liverpool—instead of the Extra Mail reaching Liverpool at 50 minutes past.ll, and returning at to minutes after 4 in the afternoon, leaving an interval of 4 hours and 20 minutes between the arrival at and departure fron► Liverpool—the Extra Mail cannot - at 1 l miles an hour, all stoppages included, .arrive by his route until 20 minutes past 1 ; and to enable it to arrive in London " at 10 in the morning," it must leave Liverpool 20 minutes before 3, leav ,ing an interval of 1 boor, And 20. minutes only, not 4 hours and 20 minutes-z-the assorting and delivery of Letters, and the time necessary fur malfing them up in return, would Irave little if anytime to reply to them the same-day, unless the nrrival in London is to be at a still later hour than 10 in the morning. Mr. Burgess has kilned his calculations 'of the produce .upon a quadruple nth: of Postage.—ln the Memorial which your Lordships have transmitted to us, he abandons - the 'pia, druple, and proposes a double rate only. Your Lordships will du us the justice to believe, that we cannot be actuated by a wish to oppose Mr. Burgess, or any other Plan, merely because it is new, and out of the com mon course. In the consideration . of the propoSed measure we have felt an anxious desire to ascertain whether there was anything in the new Plan which could induce us to prefer it to the present System, which experience has proved to have been so.productive of advantage to the. Public and to the Re venue ; and 'we should be guilty of neglect of our duty if we omitted to state 'to your Lordships the brief result of our cuniderati~►n. First.—That there are doubts of its practicability for any length of tune, .but of. this the experiment will enable us to judge. Second.—That as a Post-Office Measure it is not expe dient, and that the produce may not cover the expenditure. Third.—That it is an abandonment of the established prin ciple of the Post Office, of a fair degree of accommodation open and common to all, that even.if carried to its full ex tent, it must be partial in its operations. Fourth.—That we fear that instead of the alleged advan tage to Commerce and Manufactures, the acceleration of a part of the correspondence only, may be the cause of general confusion and evil to business; in which feeling we under stand some of the principal Merchants, &c. in London par- ticipate. _ _ _ Vilth..---That it will he insecure, and may injure the Gene ral Post EStablishinent, and consequently the Revenue - of the Country. ... , _ (Signed) CHICHESTER. . . General Y ost Office, SALISBURY. istli Aug. 1319. No. 111.--Copy of a Note from the. Postmaster General to the Earl of Liverpool and Mr. Vansittart, delivered to Mr. Vansiit art, Ist July, 1820. • The Eat I of Chichester and Marquess of Salisbury present their compliments to Lord Liverpool and Mr. Vansittart, and have the honour to transmit certain observations which it is the dtity of the Postmaster General to submit to their consi • deration on the subject. of Mr. Burgess's Plan for an Extra Post, and his Memorial to the Treasury of the 2d of May last, Copy of which their Lordships have received from Mr. Burgess. _ _ _ _ Those. observations attach to the principle of setting up such a Post. Their Lordships discharge their duty by placing them before Lord Liverpool and Mr. Vansittart, who will de cide whether they do or do not apply to the subject. • His almost unnecessary to repeat to Lord Liverpool and Mr. Vansittart that in the event of the adoption of Mr. Bur gess's Plan, the Postmaster General and their Officers cannot fail to afford their , best assistance to it, as far as the matter may rest with them. (No. IV.)—Copy of the Postmaster-General's Observation on Mr. Burgess's Plan for an Extra Post, delivered to Mr. Vansittart, Ist July, 1820. His, Majesty's Postmaster-General thinks it right to subtiiit the following Observations on Mr. Burgess's - Plans for an Extra P : ist, to the consideration and judgment of his Majes ty's Government. It is unnecessary now to' embarrass Mr. Burgess's Plan, by expressing any doubts as to the possibility of travelling 11 miles an hOur, all'stops included, - by day and nitht. For be states, that by a peculiar carriage,—horses of a particular de scription, —shot t stages, and other arrangements, be can ac complish it, although the speed to be maintained must be nearly 13 miles an hour, so as to admit time for changing horses and Letter bags, and other Post Mice duty, alike ne cessary for the interests of the public, and the security of the revenue. Mr. Burgess's first pamphlet assumes, that his Plan will produce a peat revenue—:loo,oool. a-year, making the rate of Postage quadruple. The inaccuracy of these calculations was immediately pointed out. in his Nieto(4i . al of 1819 he proposes a tiotible rate of postage. - • - His second Pamphlet is written to prove that," without any consideration of Revenue," the Government ought to adopt his Plan. It is inferred from that Pamphlet and his present Memorial, that his object is only to establish his Post " to the whole of the nian►ifacturing and conm►ercial parts of Yorkshire and Lancashire." The quadruple rate of Postage, afterwards modified .to a double one, being thus'abandoned, he now proposes it shall not exceed 40 per cent. upon the existing Kates ; and he de sires to try the experiment to Manchester and Liverpool, with a view of extending it to the district between the Mersey and the Humber, and to take the risk of the expenses of the es tablishment upon himself, excepting, for the Office and Offi cers in London, on condition of receiving the additional Postage arising Irons Letters conveyed by the Extra Post, to be secured to hint for 7 years, the Government having the power to buy him out at any time during that period upon due notice.; the sum to be paid over and above all actual ex penses, and the horses and stuck to be taken by Government, at a fair valoat Instead, therefore ' of a net Revenue of 300,0001 a year, Government is invited to give to Mr. Burgess a Farm of the whole for 7 years, and to establish a separate Office, distinct Officers, Letter Carriers, &c. at a certain annual expewltttre . of some thousand pounds. The ineucement to Government, as a matter of finance,- seems therefore to be given up", except as to any prospective benefit that may result to it at the cad of Mr. Burgess's Farm, —,7 years. . _ it - is - necessary now to ascertain whether the acceleration of a part of the col respondence to one great district, when it is not intended to be afforded to another, may not be a great evil, and . productive of much injury to that neighbouring district, to which the acceleration cannot be extended. Also, whether it. may not produce great perplexity and hindrance of general business in those very districts to which the Extra Pest is to be afforded, seeing that the commercial informa tion, brought in the Letters by the ordinary mails, may be counteracted and affected, in every variety of degree by L e tt e rs of a later date, which a few hours after may pro— duce. In the Map which accompanied Mr. Burgess's proposition of 2d 1819—he included the lines to Falmouth and Holyhead, as well as Glasgow and Edinburgh—does he ahan dun arty part of that proposition, and what ? Evers in its most extended use, the injurious effect of the E x t r a Post on the places to which it should not be extended, forms the most obvious objection to it ; and in proportion as he curtails his Plan to principal districts, that objection ac quires force. IVO% Burgess never meant to include, for instance, Lincoln shire. Let us see the effect at Hull, in its vicinity, to that agricultural county. Th e E xtra P os t wou ld a rr i ve th ere a t one o'clock, and nearly a whole day before the Letters by the ordinary Post could be delivered in many parts of Lin colnshire. The Mcrehant at Hull, in possession of his early advices, crosses the Humber, makes his speculations to the injury of the Agrieulturist, &e. A Corn Factor, moving on Lincolnshire from Doncaster, would have a still greater priority; and onelrom Derby would command the whole i►:ter►or district of the Trent. The same effects from Hull on the Eastern side of Yorkshire, also from York itself. Mallon is a Depot for Corn only 2 or 3 Buyers there- might be interested in an Extra Bost Let ter. It could never pay for the extension of IS miles. Yet every 'Farmer resorting to that Market would com plain that lie could never sell except to a disadvantage. The speculative Factor would be continually on the watch fur the rise and fall of prices, beneficial to hint because not generally known. This argument applies to the Landed Interest every where; and to every kind of dealing in ovary town to which the Extra .Post is not to .go. The effect at Liverpool would be precisely similar. The Extra Post would bring the advioea of the London Markets to Liverpool, a day earlier than they could be received at Chester, if it be not included in the Extra Post. The Liverpool Merchant goes over immediately to that City (16 miles), and into North Wales, and makes his bar gains, with all the prioritiot his intelligence, to his own advantage.. The Counties of Flint, Denbigh, &c. would be placed in the saMe'prediCatnent. The Merchants at Liedsilialifax,-Bradfordi &e, would al ways have a day's advantage over the manufacturing 01111 - 1 and villages in Craven, &c. a liOs And suppose this Plan be not extended beyond til t ti from the Mersey to the Humber, the persons being wit hit e, range will have an advantage of one day ove r the North; for a traveller would reach Glasgow and rg h a day sooner than the ordinary Post. r bed , The great feature of the Posts, as at present estabo s is their equal and fair operation. The same system i" served on all the great lines of road. The same fairness an d consistency in dispatching all the Posts to branche s th ramifications for these great lines. There nothing is 1.0 advantage of one district and the detriment of another. Some years since the Merchants, &c. of Halifax, in the T`' n ', district to which Mr. Burgess wishes to try his Plan, ro u° st rated against the early delivery of Lett e rs at Leeds, beta t 4 it enabled the Merchants at that place to ride over to the 61° Market at Halifax be fore th e Letters could be delivered there; making their bargains with a knowledge of advices from tt i , Metropolis, and which the inhabitants of Halifax were trot s , possession of. Th e early d e li ver y o f L e tt ers at Leeds , therefore forbidden. W e n a turally ask, if this Plan be e , up, can it be denied to any princip a l Town, whose corre s P u r o , r dencc is important although situated in a district not ito, taut, and where the expellee of the Extra Post would o°r than absorb any produce ? ri d r: As to the Metropolis, it is proposed that the Extra • shall arrive in London at 10 o'clock, one hour or one liAie and a half after the Letter Carriers are sent out with t' t , Letters of the Ordinary Post. It is presumed, that the Co ur t of Law, Lloyd's Coffee House, Bankers, &c. &c. would f ee , this inconvenience and perplexity in no cammon rlegr e i e , Can any such act on the first advices by the Ordinary g al s in London (ur at Liverpool), or transact any business by of Bargain or Sale, or Purchase of Stock or Insurance, ores the Law, when they know that on the same day, .23 1 011 .1, later, advices affecting the prices of all the great t nercao,%i articles of Cotton, Indigo, Coffee, Sugar, will he receis'eu dr the Extra Post, -- and that Countermands of Orders for 10 9 :. n r ance, Stock, &c. may arrive by it, or news of Ships losr p f arrived, and in all events it must retard th e ac t ua l o perat'_„ u of all these Classes several hours in every day. If they do "" wait, the Extra Post is of little use to their Corresponden„,To . Mr. Burgess says, the Letters brought by the Extra Lt , can he delivered in the principal parts of London and Wr minster in an hour after their arrival. This is impossibl„',' s What are the Boundaries of the Delivery of the Extra , r-T t o to be ?—Portnian-square and Limehouse are within the 1119 ;. of the General Post Delivery. How are the Letters brought by the Extra Pest for t i t! Country Districts of the Two-penny Post, Clapham, Vie with, Richmond, Wanstead, &c. &c. to be delivered ? Post for all these places will be dispatched before the -EY: Post can possibly arrive. ip Are additional Horse Posts to be sent with all such a` te r, enormous expence ? The same questions arise at Manclle%e Liverpool, and other towns where there are Penny Post liveries, extending in some cases several miles. ' Some boundary should be defined, or the Public wille! it , plain that the Extra Post imposes an . additional rate of 1° „0 age, but does not pr o vide f u r the d e liv e ry o f the Let' . exactly in the way it professes. o f It does -it -- - he 'e Pp!. does not appear (as asserted) how the general rev.. the Post Office is to be largely increased by the operati°"or the Plan—For admitting that the Extra Post should be 1 0 0 ,e used, will not persons economize their Correspondence t ° o r utmost of their power, and use the ordinary Post as Wit co possible All increase in the rates of Postage must ha v o . tendency to diminish the number of Letters. We may, th e 0 0 fore, have only one by the Extra Post, where the eciag n , e r Post carried two. Nay, it may happen, that a hl anc hes , o House, instead of writing to its several Currespondco It y ltd. each, will direct the whole of the business to be don e on , one Extra Post Letter to their Representative House in 11 00 don. We know that even with-the present rates, persoa re , particular Trades will club together to make one Letter . s er i o It it may be inferred from what Mr. Burgess has sodd i Alf to the importance of the district between Liverpool and that he intends to confine his Plan to that quarter, it o LO e . probably answer his purposes; and many Merchants attd 4 r t i f f culators in that district would enjoy advantages over el ; other in the Kingdom, and to the injury of most. t ;fa If the experiment be once tried, and the parties ge possession of these advantages, may it not be difficult N o ll price them of the same, if any of the evils apprehended re from it to other districts ? of If the objections to the principle of this measure hare ;O f force, it would be highly injurious to the Landed Week 0 and the Members for the Counties and places to whi c ,..te could not be extended, would in that case remoust"-: against it. We hP- aide d! e hare reason to believe that the Extra Post wol , objected to by carious eminent persons in the Al e troe 3l ,l and that many respectable indi v id ua l s b o th a t Li ver po°l Manchester do not favour it. O .° Ought not the sense of the Metropolis to be taken of J d o f measure, either through its M em b ers or by the 13" r io i; 'Trade; and, as it is presum e d th a t no thi ng can be done except by an Act of the Legislature, would it nut be that the whole should- conic under the consideration of a mince of Parliament? CIRCULAR LTTERS. t Many thousands of them are sen E t by the Post froth aIO O J every branch of Trade, (giving the prices of the Corn Coal Markets, result of Sales at the India Hodie, Ste. 6 ` c f . ( oo' Is it too much to apprehend that the postage of thos e London must he greatly lost ; fur, instead of being print e;, o s London as now and sent by the Common Post, one Esto w s' Letter will supply the information, to be printed in ',e os chester or Liverpool and delivered by private bands, ",r .oes by the Penny Post there, or by the Inland Posts at stoat } to the surrounding neighbourhood. dig This is already too much the practice, by persons sen d hi Flank Circulars by coaches to hi re-issued by Post; a n ,440 the custom of Agents in London to receive DU the For o ct, Letters of all their Houses in the Country make one F- 1 ' and send it by the In and Post, merely to save the addi tiol the Inland to the Foreign Rates. , - • There seems to be an inaccuracy in Mr. Burgess' s C a f tions as to the time the Extra P o st would arrive at Lice r l" t il viz. 50 minutes past 11 to depart.at 3 in the a fternoon - 10i mules an hour, the Extra Post would arrive at Liverpo o l miles) at 50 minutes past 12. The Return from thence %es be fi ve minutes before three.—Allow only if, minutes' t ° se' the Letters ready for distribution, no Letters could be r tl l6 livered till 5 minutes past The (M g Office must be shut 2 . n tr; reception of Letters at least 20 minutes before 3- 15 E nin t l i os‘ would be necessary to take an account of and make 0, 0 0 , Letters in the Bags for London and the intermediate.P!_de. Consequently; there could be only hour and 35 11"1.130/ for the Merchants, &c. at Liverpool to transact businc!'e the answer Letters by the Extra Post; and even in that ea' co ol , o 4 l parties must apply at the Post Office for them, as thee,e ol ig be no delivery of Letters by the Letter Carriers to a u reply the same day. OPTION OF THE WRITERS. b r ie' It is 'essential to know .111e•precise meaning of the Nieff that it, shall be perfectly optional with the Vt'siters of m ` to send them by the Extra Post. h 144,5 Certainly the writers must hare an option as to ,t.- 6 • i lar Mails and the Extra Post; but if it be meant tha jo ir writer . shall send his Letters by the Extra Post without ously paying the postage, it appears to us that the .1 1 enovi i who is the consumer of the article, is taxed without i n ' consent, and many harsh, vexatious, and unuccest33, joe' stances of this sort would occur. Letters 'written jo 1 ,40 S went of irritation or disappointment, would be purP o f_ e o ftbe by Extra Post, with a view only to increase the exP ence Receiver. If the Postage be not first paid, and there are ope o 1. `":0 boxes for such Letters, how often would they be toistallifiglf the boxes of the ordinary Post, and the parties nrl",lrefore, incur a great increase of taxation. It is presumed, tl► persons ought not to-be compelled to take in all Lett4 pre' dressed to thou by the Extra Post, except the postag e viously paid. , NEWSPAPERS. • ,„,,tr i It is'the opinion of the practical Officers, that N:f ic Pt e ' will be greatly a f f ecte4,• to the detriment of thePTi's „ . venue. Suppose a Newspaper or two only, sealed uP4 00,.. ters, to he sent by the Extra Post to 111anches1er an in th; pool for the Reading Rooms, &c.?—lt will arrive .den ' morning. The same at other plac es . The Newsl s „' er e,teici f ' by the ordinary Mails arriving at night must lose " 1 13° and the number be diminished. As Mr. Burgess at no time intended to extend ,11119r.es.cil; beyond Edinburgh, the Newspaper of Mondayw ° " that City early on Wednesday. Tiw Printers of the,. cs riot , • and three-day Papers there will in se rt all that 15 in s ea , in their Publications - , which will be received 24 IOU " at all places in Scotland North of Edinburgh. vabarti',/ Newspapers by the ordinary Post will arrive at t preit on the following morning, and must lose all their ili. ti - j o rigY the anticipation of the previous day. It will also be I ['Fire Conclu s i on o f thi s Reportpo r r s t t to the Proprietors of th e L on d on P . '•q)e eqg LONDON: Printed by J. B. C —FAIRS of N ° ' ,A S I ,A bt , Ormond-street, Queen-square; add pun" s-- ' 6 , A ar, SCRIPPSofN S \I treat • ,Or" I O. Out 0 ton-s Office, No. 112, Strand ; wiser. Adrettisernentos Letters, &c. (post-paid) isittsf biiiddresscd , t ,