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MI Aunster, rather tha n thi s rate in aid; or let there be a fair income-tax as far as it is just and legitimate, imposed ms the landlord s; b ut l et not such a) unjust tax be im posed on the industrious poor of Ulster.— (lie ir, hear.) Mr. REYNOLDS was prepared to support the present measure, but very reluctantly, for if he could avoid the vote he would avoid it, but it was because of the awful distress of the people.—(Laughter and cheers.) lleun derstood those cheers, b u t s h ou ld ex pl a i n his meaning, and he would, therefore, say, that it was on the same priaciple of necessity that he supported it as others on the opposite were against it. He had proved his since • city, though he had been accused of the want of it by his dividing the Ho use on hi s mo ti on on that question, when he had been deserted by the Hon. and Gallant Gentleman (Major Blackall), and the Hon. Member for terry (Mr. H. H er b er t), w ho had given notice of a motion to saddle the income-tax on the people of Ire land ; but he believed that that Honourable . Memb er (Mr. Herbert) wished to throw that tax from the shoul ders of the landlord on those of the shopkeepers. lie then alluded to the speech of the Honou ra bl e M em b er for Buckinghamshire (Mr. Disraeli), as being one that proved a thorough ignorance of the geography and con dition of Ireland. He thought it most unjust and inhu man for the people of Ulst er t o refuse this sixpenny rate in aid, as i f the property and loyalty of Ireland were confined to that province, but he could assure Honourable Gentlemen from Ulster that such vas not the case, for Connaught and Munster, no less than Lein ster, were generally as wealthy and as loyal as Ulster. He then alluded to the Act for the improvement of the Shannon, and said that the Honourable Member for Ros conimon (Mr. Fr enc h) h a d taken 12,0001. from the Con solidated Fund, and as much more from twelve counties, some of which had no connexion whatever with that noble river, and asked the Huse was not that a rate in aid?—(Laughter.) Major BLACKALL said that he did not propose that the income-tax should be extended in all its integrity to Ireland, such as it is in England, but that the neces sary provision should be made for the poor by those who had it in their power to relieve distress, and did not do so.--(llear, hear.) He certainly thought that an in come-tax was much more easily got rid of than a rate in aid, when once imposed, but ho should very much object to an income-tax extended in all its integrity to Ireland. Being without a detail of the expenditure, or the application of the money, he should vote that night against the rate in aid, but he should be most willing in any way to consent to a fair amount of Imperial taxa tion in Ireland. Mr. FRENCH explained that Sir John Burgoyne bad given it as his opinion that the improvement of the Shannon, being a national object, should be defrayed by a national rate. The Bill had been drawn up in accord ance with that opinion. Mr. TENNENT said he should vote against this most unhappy measure of her Majesty's Government. He thought that, least of all, this should be made a question of religion. It was a constitutional question of the greatest consequence, and he could assure the Govern meat that, at the bottom of a great deal of apparently superficial talking, there was a . great deal of determined resolution that was hostile to it. If Imp e ri a l t axat i on were not properly assessed in Ireland, he would assert that the Government were not entitled to balance one evil by another, in the manner they contemplated, and which he earnestly hoped they wauld abandon—(Hear.) Mr. HENRY DRUMMOND said that, under the name of a rate in aid, he conceived that the question might be asked,whether this was a rate to increase pauperism or diminish it? From the Government blue book he might infer that it was a rate to increase it. Thinking so, he rose to propose three things. First, to make the unions support themselves. It was nonsense to talk of a labour market in Ireland, for there was none; and if they would only set a plain English farmer to teach the Irish to dig,, he was sure they R ould do a great deal of good. In the second place, ho would recommend a sound sys tem of emigration, and in the last, to get rid of middle men, who were the real evil. Captain ARCHDALL briefly addressed the House against the Bill, giving the Government full credit for their courage in propounding and pursuing it. The House then divided, when there appeared— For the second readicg . Against it Majority for Ministers --55 The Bill was then read a second time and ordered to be committed. LABOUR•RATE IN IRELAND. Mr. P. SCROPE moved for leave to bring in a Bill to promote the employment of labourers in Ireland by a proportionate exemption from poor-rate. Mr. STAFFORD opposed the introduction of a mea sure involving a very material change in the poor-law of Ireland by any private Member. If any such change were necessary it ought to be made on the responsibility of the Government, and what he wished to know was, whether the Government, by sanctioning the introduc tion of the Bill, were willing to adopt the principle of a labour- rate ? Lord J. RUSSELL confessed that he should not have been disposed to offer any opposition to the Honourable Member for Stroud bringing in this Bill, but the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Stafford) having raised the question by thinking it necessary to oppose the Bill in the first in stance, he (Lord J. Russell) owned that he was quite opposed to the principle of the measure—(Hear)—and, therefore, if the House should be called upon to give a decision upon it to-night, he must give his vote in oppo sition to the introduction of the Bill. Mr. P. SCROPE considered it rather hard that the principle of the Bill should be decided upon before a single word had fallen from him as to what that princi ple was, or what the Bill itself contained. He had pur posely abstained from addressing the House, because the lateness of the hour would not admit of his entering into a vindication of the principle of the measure. He hoped the House would extend to him the usual in dulgence, and a' low the Bill to be brought in and read a first time, reserving a discussion of its principle to the second reading. Mr. MANGLES hoped the lion. Gentlemen would persist in pressing his motion. Colonel DUNNE, although often differing from the ion. Member for Stroud, was nevertheless certain that his object was to bring forward a measure that would be useful to Ireland; he, therefore, thought it desirable that the Bill should be laid before the House. Sir H. PEEL, observed that there were some Bills so objectionable in principle, and so utterly unworthy of consideration, as to make it quite right to refuse their being brought in, but he must say that the present state of Ireland might demand some such remedy as that which was now proposed ; and, considering the great and disinterested labours which the Hon. Gentleman had devoted to all questions connected with the interests of the poor and destitute of Ireland, and remembering the obloquy to which he had exposed himself, he (Sir R. Peel) did think that an opportunity should be given to the Hon. Gentleman to explain his proposition, in stead of the Bill being hastily rejected that night. But he would suggest to the Hon. Gentleman that he had better withdraw his notice now, and put it for some day when that opportunity might be afforded him. If how ever, the lion. Gentleman persisted in bringing in the Bill to-night, he should cordially support the motion fur his doing so. After a few words from Mr. FRENCH and Major BLACYALL in favour of the motion, Sir G. GREY remarked that it was an unusual thing to bring in a Bill without the House being made aware of the nature of its provisions; he, therefore, hoped the Hon. Gentleman would adopt the suggestion of the Right Hon. Baronet and withdras his motion, and take another opportunity of stating what was the precise ob ject of his Bill. Mr. H. HERBERT objected to the Bill being intro duced. as it would excite hopes in Ireland which were certain to be disappointed. Mr. OSBORNE thought it better to excite hope in Ireland than despair, and considered it most ungracious to refuse the Hon. Gentleman an opportunity of explain ing his measure. Mr. P. SCROPE wished to defer to the feeling of the House, and would, if it were their pleasure, withdraw his motion—(Cries of " No! no!" 4 . Yes! yes!")—otherwise he would persist in pressing it to a division. Strangers were then ordered to withdraw. During our ab.ence we understood that Lord J. Rus- SELL urged the Hon. Member for Northamptonshire not to divide the House against the introduction of the Bill, and intimated that, if he persisted in doing so, he (Lord John Russell) would vote with the Hon. Member for Stroud. The House then divided; when there appeared— For the introduction of the Bill ... 108 Against it ... Majority... ... SUNDAY TRAINS. Mr. FORBES presented a petition from Stirlingahire, against the compelling the running of railway trains on Sundays. Mr. LOCKE then moved for leave to introduce a Bill to secure to the public, on Sundays, a limited and rea sonable use of the railways which conveyed passeng ers on the other days of the week. Re remarked, that the petitions which had been presented and the agitation which had taken place on this subject were quite beside the object of his simple Bill, which had been very muc h misconceived in Scotland. Its object merely was to se cure that the railways should carry passengers in those trains which were used fur the conveyance of the mails and post letter-bags on the Sundays. There was nothing in it inimical to a proper feeling, of respect for the Sab bath_ as a d ay of rest, or which was inconsistent with Christian principles.—(Hear, hear.) He hoped, there fore, that the House would allow the Bill to be intro duced and printed, that its merits, whatever they were, -might be made known to the public during the recess. Mr. FORBES said that the people of Scotland were perfectly well aware of the nature of the Hon. Gentle man's proposal, and were strongly and conscientiously opposed to it. He hoped the Government would not sanction the measure. He objected to the introduction of the Bill. Mr. COWAN begged to say that he felt the strongest v2ssiblo objection to the Bill, but he hoped the Hon. ember for Stirlingshire would not put the House to I e si t r r . L t oti of dividi ng aga i nst it at that late hour. the session he said th a t a t an ear l y per i o d o f on he had stated, in reply to a question from the Rea. though, 8 .14 .. er a• ber — for - Houiton (Mr. -- Locke), that al . pe.kin g for himself, he believed it was quite consistent with a due observance of the sanctity of the Sabbath to allow, the running rail wa y restrictions and regula tions,he hoped tw.see this opinion trains on Sundays, and that vayeprrtevail in Scotland, yet he was not prepared, on the the Government, to bring in a Bill to compel ra p ilwa of contra diction of what he believed and kne w strongly in to be an opinion iii strongly entertained by a large chi r a l ; o f the community Scotland, to take that course. ex e still entertained very great doubts whether it was He was inclined to think that tho wou ltgl e it to d l cA , so. l to accomplish the obj ect more e y of seeing passengers conveyed, as now in England, on Sundays as well as on other days, under such restrictions and regulations as would pre serve the sanctity of the Sabbath, which was so honour able 4 ebaraoteristio of Scotland, by leaving the matter -93 to the discretion and good sense of the railway companits of Scotland generally, than by atternring to force a measure upon an unwilling, people.— (Hpar, hear.) Under these circumstances. he could not pledge himself to vote for the seconding reading of the Bill; but, at the same time, he thought it would be ungracious to the Hon. Gentleman who proposed it, especially as he had stated that his views had beet► misrepresent , d, not to allow him to have it put in a shape for circulation in Scot land.—(Hear, hear.) Mr. G. DUNCAN bore testimony to the strong feel ing which prevailed in Scotland against the Bill; but thought that, if its provisions were known, there would be less objection to it. After a few words from Mr. STAFFORD, ridiculing the conduct of Government in voting for the introduction of Bills to which they were professedly opposed, Mr. MANGLES was sorry the Hon. Member for Northamptonshire had not yet recovered from the effect of the late division. A noble lady had not been able to come up to attend the deathbed of her father, in con sequence of the regulations of a railway in the north. Parliament had given the railways a monopoly, and no free-trader ever objected to regulate monopolies. Mr. S. WORTLEY would vote against the Bill, which interfered both with private property and with the rights of conscience. Sir G. GREY reminded the Right Hon. Gentleman that all railways were compelled to carry the mails on Sunday. The principle on which the Right Hon. Gen tleman objected to the Bill as an interference with the rights of property implied an abdication, on the part of that House, of the right to control railways. He was not prepared to legislate in opposition to the strong feeling of Scotland; but the object of the Bill was dif ferent from that which was supposed in the petitions pre sented on the subject. Mr. E. ELLICE objected to a compulsory measure. The company on whose line a noble lady had been prevented from travelling had since rescinded their re gulation. Mr. SEYMER could not support a compulsory Bill. Mr. AGLIONBY supported the Bill. It was said to be an interference with private property and the rights of conscience. But railways had been formed by a most glaring infringement of private property; and the inter ference with the rights of conscience was on the part of the railway proprietors, and those Scotchmen who re fused to allow Sunday trains. Sir E. BUXTON objected to a Bill intended to force people to do that to which they conscientiously objected. Mr. DRUMMOND—The whole of this case of con science in Scotland, it seems, resolves itself into the qu,stion whether there should be one or two carriages in a Sunday train.—(Laughter.) The House divided, when there appeared— For the motion Against it L ... ... 58 . ... . . ... 20 Majority —3B Mr. FIUME obtained leave to bring in a Bill to es tablish county financial boards for the adminstration of county rates and expenditure in England and Wales, which was afterwards brought in. Sir G. GREY, in the absence of Lord J. Russell, ob tained leave to bring in a Bill to amend the Acts relating to the Ecclesiastical Commissioners for England, which was afterwards brought in. The ATTORNEY-GENERAL brought in the Ad ministration of Justice Bill, and the Portugal Treaties Stipulation Bill. The House adjourned at Two o'Clock. THE SUN, PARLIAMENTARY _DIVISIONS. From the Votes and Proceedings of the House of anniruns.j TUESDAY. APRIL 3. POOR-LAWS (IRELAND—RATE IN AID) BILL. Order for Second' Reading: read ; Motion made, and Ques tion proposed, "That the Bill be now read a second time." Amendment proposed, to leave out the word " now," and at the end of the Question to add the words "upon this day six months :"—Question put, " That the word' now' stand part of the Question." The House divided:— MAJORITY—AYES, 193. Abdy, T. N. Goddard, A. L. Pechell, Captain Acland, Sir T. Graham, Sir James Peel,',Sir Robert Adair, R. Shafto Greene Thomas Peel, Frederick Aglionby, H. Greaten, C. Pascoe Peto, Samuel Anderson, Arthur Grey, Sir G. Pigott, Francis Anson, Colonel Grosvenor, Earl Plowden, W. H. Anton, Viscount Guest, Sir J. Price, Sir Robert Armstrong, Sir A. liallyburton, Lord Pryse, Pryso Armstrong, It. B. Harcourt, G. Pusey, Philip Ashley, Lord Ilardcastle, J. A. Reid, Colonel Bagshaw, John Hastie, Archibald Reynolds, John Baines, 31. T. Hawes, B. Ricardo, Osman Baring, Sir F. llay, Lord John Rice, E. R. Baring, Thomas Ileyter, W. G. Rich, henry Bass, M. T. Headlam, T. E. Romilly, Sir John Bellew, R. 31. Henry, Alexander Rumbold, C. E. Berkeley, Captain Heywood, James Rushout, Captain Berkeley, H. Ileyworth, Lawrence Russell, Lord J. Berkeley, C. L. G. Hindley, C. Russell, F. C. H. Bernal, Ralph Hobhouse, Sir John Sandars, George Birch, Sir T. Hobhouse, T. B. Scholefield, William Bouverie, E. P. Hogg, Sir J. W. Seymer,;Henry Ker Boyle, Colonel Hope, H. T. Seymour, Lord Bramston, T' W. Howard, Lord E. Shafto, R. D. Bright, John Howard, C. W. G. Shell, R. L. Brocklehurst, J. Ilume, Joseph Smith, R. V. Brotherton, J. Jervis, Sir John smith, J. A.' Brown, W. Johnstone, Sir J. Smith, 31. Tucker Browne, R. D. Keppel, G. T. Smith, J. Benjamin Bruce, Lord E. Kershaw, James Saiollett, A. Bunbury, E. H. Kildare,;Marquis of Somers, J. P. Busfeild, W. King, P. J. Somerville, Sir W. Buxton, Sir E. Labouchere, Henry Strickland, Sir G. Cardwell, Edward Lascelles, W. S. Stuart, Lord Dudley Carter, J. B. Lewis, Sir T. Stuart, Lord J. Cavendish, G. H. Lewis, G. C. Tancred, 11. W. Childers, J. W. Locke, Joseph Thicknesse, It. A. Clay, James Lygon, General Thompson, Colonel Clay, Sir W. Mackinnon, W. Thompson, George Clerk, Sir G. M'Cullagh, W. T. Thornely, Thomas Cobden, R. M'Gregor, John Towneley, John Collins, W. Mahon, O'Gorman Townley, R. G. Copeland, Alderman Mangles, R. D. Townshend, Captain Cowper, W F. Marshall. J. G. Turner, G. J. Craig, W. G. Matheson, Alex. Villiers, Charles Denison, W. J. Matheson, Colonel Wall, C. B. Duncan, George Mettle, Fox Walmsley, Sir J. Dundas, Admiral Melgund, Viscount Walter, John Ebrington, Lord Mitchell, A. T. Ward, H. G. Ellice, Edward Moffatt, George Watkins, Colonel Ellice, Sr., juu. Moore, G. H. Wellesley, Lord C. Ellis, John Morris, David Westhead, J. P. Elliot, John E. Mostyn, E. Willcox, Brodie Emlyn, Viscount Mowatt, Francis Williams, John Enfield, Viscount Mare, Colonel Williamson, Sir 11. Evans, Sir De Lacy Norreys, Lord Wilson, James Evans, William Norreys, Sir D. Wilton, Matthew Ewart, William O'Connor, Feargus Wood, Sir Charles Fagan, William Ogle, S. C. Wood, W. P. Fergus, John Ossulton, Lord Wyld,)James Ferguson, Col. Owen, Sir J. Wyvill, Marmaduke Fordyce, A. D. Paget, Lord A. Forster, M. Paget, Lord George TELLERS. Fortescue, J. W. Palmerston, Viscount Hill, Lord Marcus Fox, W. J. Parker, John Gi ey, li. W. Glyn, G. C. Patten, W. MINORITY-NOES, 138. Adair, Hugh B. Fitzpatrick, JW. Milton, Viscount Adderley, C. B. Fitzwilliam, G. W Monsell, William Alexander, N. Forbes, W. Morgan, H. K. Archdall, Captain Fortescue, Chichester Mundy, William Arkwright, George Fox, R. M. Napier, Joseph Bagge, W. Fox, S. L. Newdegate, C. N. Baldock, E. 11. French, F. Nugent, Sir Percy Baldwin, C. B. Fuller, A. E. O'Brien, Sir Lucius Barron, Sir H. Gaskell, J. M. O'Flaherty, Anthony Bateson, T. Gore, W. R. 0. Osborne, Ralph Beresford, William Goulburn, Henry Pigot, Sir R. 'Heckel', S. W. Grace, 0. D. Repton, G. W. J. Blackstone, W. S. Granby, Marquis of Richards, Richard Blake, Martin J. Greene, John Rufford, Francis Boldero, Henry Grogan. Edward Sadleir, Join Bourke, Richard S. Haggitt, F. R. Sanders, Joseph Bowles, Admiral Raiford, Sir 11, Scott, Francis Boyd, John Ball, Colonel Scrope, G. P. Broadley, H. Hamilton, J. H. Scully, Francis Brooke, Sir A. B. Hamilton, Lord C. Sidney, Alderman Breen, Colonel Ilarris, Captain Simeon, John Buller, Sir J. Y. Mayes, Sir E. Somerset, Captain Burroughes, H. N. Herbert, Henry A. Spooner, R. Callaghan, D. Berries, John C. Stafford, Augustus Castlereagh, Vise. Hervey, Lord A. Stanley, E. H. Caulfeild, J. M. Borman, Edward Stephenson, Robert Chandos, Marquis Howard, Sir R. Stuart, J. Chichester, Lord J. Jocelyn, Viscount Sullivan, Michael Christy, Samuel Jolliffe, Sir W. G. Sutton, Henry Clements, Charles Jones, Captain Taylor, T. E. Clive, Henry B. Keogh, William Tenison, E. K. Cobbold, J. C. Ker, Richard Tennent, It. J. Cocks, Thomas S. Knightley, Sir_C. Thesiger, Sir F. Cole, H. A. Knox, Colone Trevor, G. R. Colebrooke, Sir T. Lawless, Cecil Tyrell, Sir J. T. Conolly, Thomas Lennard, T. B. Verner, Sir W. Clifton, J.T. Lincoln, Earl of Vesey, T. Crawford, W. S. Lockhart, W. Vyse, R. 11. Darner, Colonel Long, Walter Waddington, H. S. Dawson, T. V. Lopes, Sir Ralph Walpole, Spencer Dick, Quintin Lowther, Henry Williams,,T. P. Drununond, Henry M`Nagiten, Sir E. Willoughby, Sir H. Dunne, Francis P. Meagher, Thomas Wortley, J. S. Egerton, Sir P. Mahon, Viscount Young, Sir John Estcourt, J. B. B. Manners, Lord G. • TELLERS. Fellowes, E. Maxwell, J. P. Hamilton, G. A. Ferguson, Sir R. Men.", Sir H. Corry, H. EMPLOYMENT OF LABOUR (IRELAND.) Motion made, and Question put, " That leave be given to bring in a Bill to promete the employment of Labour in Ireland, by a proportionate exemption from Poor-rate." The House divided : MAJORITY—AYES, 108. Aglionby, 11. A. French, F; Paget, Lord A. Anderson, Arthur Gaskell, J. M. Palmer, Bounden Armstrong, It. B. Grace, O. I). Palmerton, Vis. Baines, M. T. Greene, John Parker, John Baring, Sir F. T. Grenfell, C. Pascoe Peel, Sir Robert Bass, M. T. Grey, Sir G. Peel, Frederick Bellew, R. M. Grey, It. W. Peto, Samuel Berkeley, Captain llastie, Archibald Pigott, Francis Berkeley, C. L. Hawes, Benjamin Pryse, Pryso Bernal, Ralph Heywood, James Reynolds, John Birch, Sir Thomas Ileyworth, L. Ricardo, Osman Blackall, S. W. hill, Lord Marcus Rich, Henry Blake, M. J. Hindley, Charles Romilly, Sir John Boldero, IL G. Ilobhouse, T. B. Russell, Lord J. Bouverie, E. P. Horsman, E. Russell, F. C. Brotherton, J. Howard, Lord E. Sanders, J. Bunbury, E. H. tlardwen, Edward Jlieurnivi Howard, C. W. - Scholefield, W. Buxton, Sir E. e s : Sir Joseph n Seyiner, H. K. Smith, J. A. Childers, J. w. Clerk Sir G. Keppel, George T. Somerville, Sir W. Cobbold, John C. Kershaw, James Spooner, Richard Labouchere Henry Stuart, Lord 1). Cowan, Charles Lascelles, W. S. Lockhart, m,cunagh I:V vv . Stuart, Lord J. Cow an, W. F. Lincoln, Earl of Sullivan, Michael Craig, W. G. Locke, Joseph Tenlson, E.'K. Denison, W. J. W. T. Tlhhoicinkpusesoisie,:Clot.lotel Duncan . George Mahon, O'Gorman Drummond, Henry Matheson,hornely, T. Dunne, F. I'. son Colonel Townshend, Captain Ebrington, Viscount Melgund, Viscount Percy, Hon. T. l , Egerton, Sir P. Meux, Sir Henry Westhead ,J. P. Moffatt, George Ellice, Edward Willoughby, Sir 11. Morris, David Wilson, James Ellis, John Norreys, Sir D. Woretly, J. s. Elliot, John Sir Percy TELLERS t ourt J. B. B. Es c , Nugent, G. . Ogle, S. C. Scrope, (... P. Fordyce, A. D. Fertescue, J. N Mangles, It. D. Osborne, Ralph V. MINORITY-NOES, 15. --- - Adderley, C. B, forbes, W. Taylor, T. E. Baldock, E. H. Granby, Marquis of Verner, Sir W. Bourke, R. S. Buller, Sir Y. A Cl l r°g agan an , ' l E V d . ' il var Young, Si. d John TELLERS. Christy, Samuel Somerset, Captain Stafford, Augustus Conolly, Thomas Stanley, E. H. Herbert, H. A. Contents of Sunday's Observer, April 1 :--Ten folio columns of the Trial of Rush, to Saturday night ; three folio columns of Parochial Proceedings at Maryle bone, Pancras, and Paddington ; one column of the Liverpool Murder ; one column of the Fire at the Olympic Theatre ; Society of British Artists, a column and a half ; the probable Summary of the Quarter's Revenue ' - 300 Births, Marriages, and Deaths ; about 100 usefu l advertisements, including the Public Amuse ments ; and sixteen folio columns of Miscellaneous News. Next Sunday, April 8, to render Rush's Trial complete in the two Observers, a gratuitous supplement will be published. LONDON, WEDNESDAY EVENING, AP THE STANFIELD-HALL MURDERS. TRIAL OF RUSH. (FROM OUR OWN REPORTER) NORWICH, TUESDAY. Before the rep'rters were admitted this morning the Governor, Mr. Pinson, called them together, and ex pressed a hope that they would keep their penknives, or an) thing which might bo made available as a weapon, out of the reach of Rush, stating that he did not ask this without reason. We understand that during the night the prisoner became exceedingly violent, and vowed revenge towards the witnesses who had given evidence against him. It was, therefore, feared that he might lay violent hands upon his own life if the means were placed within his power, or attack any one within his reach. In con sequence of the threats used, and the apparently ungo vernable rage which had taken possession of the prisoner, the spikes round the dock were covered, some time before the meeting of the court, with long and stout pieces of wood. The conduct of Rush during the night, we were told, was ferocious in the extreme, and more like that of a demon than a human being. The prisoner (A ith whom turnkeys have been in the habit of sitting up every night, and who have kept a strict watch over him), however, slept a good deal last night; his violence csme on early in the morning. These revelations caused the greatest excitement in the court, which was crowded. Mr. Baron Rolfe took his seat at a quarter to nine o'clock. The jury assembled shortly before. Before the prisoner was brought in the Under-Sheriff stated that a man, then in custody and present, had called out to the jury when leaving their omnibus and entering the Maid's Head, last night, " Gentlemen, I hope you will be merciful to Mr. Rush." Archibald Macdonald, the man referred to, apolo gised for his conduct, and declared that it was merely addressed to a person whom he knew in the omnibus, and not with any bad intention. Mr. Baron RaFE said it was extremely important that the jury should not be communicated with before giving their verdict. His conduct was most improper; as, however, he had not sought to injure the prisoner he should discharge him. Rush shortly after entered the dock. We did not no tice any change in his appearance. Having carefully arranged his papers, a proceeding which occupied some time, he applied to be permitted to put a few questions to Howe. Mr. Baron ROLFE said he did not know whether he ought to allow it, because the evidence was altogether irrelevant—whether innocent or guilty he did not believe it could affect him. Rush said he was happy to hear this. Mr. Baron ROLFE said, however, it was for the jury to judge. kush said he only wished to put two or three questions. Howe was called and examined by Rush—Was in the habit of frequenting the " Wheatsheaf " in London. Knew persons in the habit of going there of the name of IJurrant and Hythe. Had spoken to the former about the murder. Never said he would go to Norwich and give evidence if his expenses were paid, in order that he ❑night have a lark with his friends in Norwich. Did not say ha would give evidence on either side fur 201. Ile had said he had been out on the " spree" with the prisoner, which was the case, and that he had said he " was a jolly good fellow." - RUSH'S DEFENCE. Rush then proceeded to address the jury in his de fence. He spoke first in a thick voice, but soon re • gained his usual composure. He implored them to deal justly with him, and at the outset pro claimed h?s innocence, admitting freely that Irom the enmity that existed between him and the Jermys, it was but natural he should have been suspected of this horrible crime the most gray, and important charge that they could he called upon to try. He complained that no communication was allowed to pass between him and his solicitor, except it was seen by the governor of the Castle, by order of the magistrates, which was a gross violation of the confidence that always existed between an accused person and his professional adviser. His solicitor had sent a memorial to Sir George Grey, who had declined to interfere. He had had many difficulties thrown in his way, and this was not the least of them. Ho trusted that his Lordship would, as far as was consistent with his position as Judge, assist him in his defence., Mr. Baron ROLFE bowed assent. Rush went on to complain that witnesses had been examined against him, without either himself or the reporters being present, which he considered not only cruel in the extreme, but unconstitutional. Thomas Jermy, the claimant of the Stanfield Hall estate, had arranged with him that he (Rush), with all the strength he could muster, should take p , ssession of the hall, as he had done some years before. He promised to come to Potash-farm to set about this either on the Saturday or the Monday, at eight o'clock. They spoke together about it by the hay-stack, in his farm yard, on the Friday morning. Ile (Rush) said it was a difficult thing to do, and that they might expect a resistance. He (Jermy) said " Nonsense," that it could easily be accomplished, and there was no fear of soldiers. Jermy end Lerner then left him, and went to Stanfield-hall. Ile followed them a little way, but returned to Potash, about eleven o'clock the same morn ing. They communicated again with him on the subject; but he declined to aid them, they having told him that they could get plenty of help, and that it would be well to accomplish there purpose in a morning, The reason he (Rush) was at Potash at that time was in or der that he might prevent his son from joining in the attempt. Some talk was made about its taking place at night. To_ this he strongly objected, saying, "at any rate, don't make up your mind until the morning." He spoke to a person named "Joe "on the matter. He should be able clearly to satisfy his Lordship and.the jury that he did not leave Potash-farm on the night of the murder until eight or half-past eight. He then went out; at first he thought he would go over to the ball, but recollecting what he had said, he made up his mind not w go. He walked towards the fence of the hall, about five minutes' walk, when he heard the report of a gun or pis tol. He then heard another, but not quite so loud. He was struck with amazement, as he thought if they intended to take fire-arms with them that they would only be used for the purpose of intimidation. He then heard the alarm bell rung loudly and distinctly. He hastened back to Potash as quick as he could, going into the house by the garden gate. He had seen the lawyer of the parties twice—once at Norwich, and once at Potash.—(The statement of the prisoner was somewhat rambling, and it was not without difficulty that we were enabled to cull the above.) His Lerdship had said he did not think Howe's evidence im portant. Ho did not think so. His evidence was brought forward as most important to the ends of the prosecution. Surely the expres sion that "he would serve Mr. Jermy with an ejectment for another world "—if he was an honest man—a creditable witness, as he was not—but just the reverse, us several letters he had received from perfect strangers showed—the proof of the use of such an expression was most important evidence against him. Howe would swear anything, and he should show he was utterly unworthy of belief. Why then was Jesse White called to prove that he wrote the threatening notices on the copy-book covers ? He had not anything like the opportunities of becoming acquainted with his handwriting that Glasgow had. Why was he not called? He was too honest, like White, to swear to what was false. The happiness of his deer young children (the prisoner has a large family living at Fehningliam) depends upon the issue of this trial. God knew he was innocent. He had nothing on his mind, and he defied the prosecution,notwithstanding all the skill of the Learned Counsel for the prosecution, to prove one atom of important evidence against him, notwith stanC.ing all the evidence they have called. Before he had done, he would show them that he was utterly in nocent of this crime, and he trusted God Almighty would give him strength to support him to the end of that inves- Nudes.. As true as he was standing there in that dock, he should show that his suspicions were well founded. He had not the least fear of the result, and be hoped God Almighty would give them the means of seeing the case in its true light, and that ho was innocent. He should give satisfactory reasons why he went out. In short, he should show them that he knew no more about the murders than any of them. He did not at any time shoot much, but it so happened at the time of the murder he did shoot a good deal. There was one important witness, an hottest fellow, whom they dared not call. They had threatened him with the prison ; but he should call him. The evidence with re spect to the boots was as gross a piece of evidence as could be produced; he should show it in a different light. Then, with respect to the straw littered along the soft soil, it had been there since. the harvest, and was the track the pigs took to the fields. There were some important questions that he should have liked to have put to Mrs. Jermy; had she not been so ill, poor thing, he should have pressed the production of her evidence. The prisoner here asked the Judge, as ho wished to call again two or three of the witnesses for the prosecu tion, whether he should do so before he proceeded? The Juiscs—What do you mean by calling otht r wit nesses? The Prisoner—Those I want to call. There's Savory, Bra.nchlow, and another. The JUDGE—You must conclude all you have to say before you call any witnesses. • The prisoner pr - oceeded—ln considering the bearing of the evidence they ought to compare the evidence given by the same witness in one place with his evi dence given in another; and on bearing the depositions read he hoped they would compare them carefully. For instance, there was Watson the butler's evidenCe. Let them look to what he said before the magistrates and afterwards. He was fairly forced to what he said, poor fellow. H o b e li eve d there never had been a man so pressed as h e h a d b een. His impression was th a t Wat son was honest, and was willing to give his evidence right, but that he was forced to do otherwise, and he could prove his evidence was completely wrong. (The prisoner then proceeded t o read the depositions of Watson before the magistrates and before the coroner.) They would remark that he omitted many things be. fore the latter which ho had sworn to in the other depositions. He said, for instance, he saw a man the passage with a mas k on his face, and comingdc up scribAhow his arms were, &c. Before the co rover he omitted all these particulars, and in court he said that as soon as he left the pantry he saw a man turn the corner. The time between the first and second s h o t s , as s tated by other witnesses , w as not the same as that st a t e d by Watson. In fact , it was clear th ere were two people in the hali from the description, and that what was called y some witnesses the hall - do or ban g i ng was the second report, With regard to Watson's evidence, that the man he saw was such Thoughts could never coMC iito man'," heed without being put there. The man, he sa:d, w:is walking fast when he passed him ; and we; it not quite clear that Watson could not ohs , rye what ha was like ? But ho had not given 111;1 same evidence };ere that he gave before the magistrates. There Branch low's evidence was most important for him, and if hi, Lard-hip wished for justice he should have insisted upon its b,ing read. He now came ,to the evidence of Mar garet Reid, the cook, He hoped the jury would remem ber that evidence, for he stood there before God and his country, and he defied them to find anything against lain, if that evidence was attended to. He asked them to com pare the evidence which Reid gave before the c:zoner with what she had stated there. His firm belief was that she never saw any one in the passage at all. Before he was done he would show that his cloak was placed on him at the Bridewell to see if she recognised him, but she failed to do so. The JUDGE—I think you are justified in asking that that should be done again. The prisoner would certainly like it. There was nothing sufficient in the evidence to satisfy a jury that anybody saw a man coming along the passage at all. Here was a great cloak reaching down to his legs, and yet was it not extraordinary that Reid should have given such evidence? She said the cloak might have been held up, but she admitted that his hand was down; and she swore before the coroner that the cloak which the man wore did not reach beyond his knee. He would produce the garment which he had on that night. He would prove the reason why he went out at nights, and that Emily Sandford had seen him go out, and told the prosecution what his dress was, and they have con cocted all this evidence and put it into the mouths of the witnesses. He would produce the dress he wore the night of the murders, and he was not ashamed to own that he wore it. He had most important documents to show, and one particularly so, 'which Mr. Jermy handed him on the 21st, and which, if produced by the prosecu tion, would show that he was at the time in his (the prisoner's) power. It would be no great advantage to him, perhaps, to produce that paper, but it would show the confidential footing on which Mr. Jermy's father was with him; and that, being one of his best friends, he (the prisoner) could not do anything against bis family beyond protecting himself. The jury would bear well in mind what Reid said about his wearing his head on one side. He never heard of such a thing be fore. He wanted nothing but the facts and truth of the thing, and that would come out befbre he had done. She said the man was walking quicker than he (the prisoner) usually did; but how could she see this with Miss Jermy between her and him ? The prosecution had not produced that young lady. The poor boy who was put into the box yesterday spoke the truth; and why, therefore, should she not be brought forward? He now came to the case of Honor Holmes, the kitchen maid, and it would be his duty to read the facts in her evidence which were in his favour. She went with the other par ties in the direction in which this man must have come in going to or leaving the hall. It was impossible for him to have gone in that direction without knowing that they were there; and did the jury think he could have had impudence enough to go through all these people on such an object? Holmes must have seen or heard something of the man described if she returned when she stated. Harvey's evidence, the jury would see, had been tampered with, he (the prisoner) knew how very well. The evidence had been twisted and twirled in every direction. Reid used the word "intervened" in her examination, and yet she acknowleged that she did not understand its meaning. He had no he sitation in saying that God Almighty would enable him to make his evidence appear clear to them. Another most important point was the time that Holmes was gone. He would prove that it was not as stated. She states that five or six days before the murdsr she observed a light on the lawn, and the ap pearance of a man with a cloak. Now, was it likely that a man there with an intention to commit murder should have a light? It was well known that he had had a dark lantern for years, and the jury, as practical ' men, were quite aware that it was much better not to show a light if a person wanted to detect anything wrong among his servants. Where was the farmer that had not a dark lantern? Then, he would ask, how had Harvey given his evidence? How could any man have got there and shot Mr. Jermy while these people were about the door? It was impossible without being seen by these servants. Then, there was another thing—why should all these people have run away if they thought there was anything serious going on? These servants were running about the hall, and yet they had never been ex amined before the coroner. He would show that there never was a man who had been treated as he had. If the reporters had been admitted at previous inquiries the public would have known what was going on. They would find that, please God Almighty, in spite of all that could be done against him be would be able to look his enemies in the face. He hoped God Almighty would make it appear how this thing was working, There was every excuse for Mrs. Jermy's deposition, considering the situation site was in, and the situation in which she thought he was. The jury would recollect the evidence which had been given as toMiss Sandford being at the hall for 12 hours. He had no doubt that she was examined over lied over again that night, notwithstanding Mr. Cann's statement. He thought that she was honest enough—he did not think she was so bad as that, poor thing; and if he knew whom she had been examined be. fore, he would have had them examined as witnesses, no matter how hostile they might be. The servants denied that they had seen the newspapers; but was that at all likely? Then he wished to examine Mr. Clarke. The JUDGE—Iie merely produced papers, but if you wish to examine him he will be here in an hour. Prisoner—Then as to Futter; they had heard how he had given his evidence as to the means of crossing the drain. It was a very dangerous place to walk over i n the daytime even, and at night not one man in a hun dred could pass. Then about laying down the straw. This was a piece of beans, and the pigs used to go back and forward, the straw being put there to keep them on that side of the field when their bellies were filled. This was the result of the fuss which had been made about the straw. His impression Ras that it was at that very time a bean stubble. As to time, Stanley's was the most direct evidence of any. His evidence, and Watson's taken with it, showed that the murder took place later than stated, and that it must have been very near nine o'clock. Coming to the evidence of Pont, Mortar, Amos, and Osborne, he would show the purpose of the bare faced, impudent evidence they had given. He called their attention to this to show the way is which the evi. dence had been got up, for that must come out. There was no doubt that the fellow Pont had studied his first depositions in the papers, for he repeated the very words he used before the coroner; but let them compare what he said with the evidence of others, and then they would see the difference. They would find that these men concocted the point about time. At the time lie could observe their drift, and that was the reason he put certain questions. They had got up the story of his saying that young4ermy was his enemy; but was it likely that he would make such a statement if he was guilty; and the jury would recollect that though it was stated he said so in the presence of Miss Sandford, she had no recollection of it. Then about the papers, that fellow Pont told the ether men what they ought to say as he went out of court, and they had done so. It showed the inj ust i ce to which he had been subjected. About th e evidence Osborne gave as to ts,exepiinfintsh,evapyartthienst statement up s t ai . r s Thompson,at Potash, he nted to however, said that no one went up stairs with him (the prisoner) but Amos and Mortar, and it was clear from the posi tion in which Osborne stood that he could not have seen them. The evidence of these parties he hoped they would well consider in all its bearings. The words to which they spoke differed; and the jury heard what Pont swore yesterday as to seeing Mortar taking him by the arm. When a man would swear false in one way, then he would do so in another also. Then as to the boots. 'The first description of them which Pont gave was that they were getting dry and had been washed; while before the coroner he said they were wet. The contradictions on this subject were many, and the pro secution had not called the most important witness that could speak to the fact. Emily Sandford had no recol lection of the boots having been washed. He woeild, He a g out ci fo ici r had his boots h:ch he must have done if he i p tu ro t d w u n ce nt tlr is v se er r y v h n o ts ot t s o k h n e o h w ad th o a n t he t h a w t a r s , ig g h o t in the jury before he was d one. make that point clear to As to a pair found below the bed, one of th e f e ll ows g th ' e m re.' w liis home was at Felmingham, and ho wo u ld swore that there was fresh dirt upon them, which stowed what such witnesses were prepared to say against him. lie declared solemnly that he never had them on that day. Again, each of the police swore that t n e o what s he took the guns and uncapped them himself, an d men who would not stop at small falsehoods would no t s t op at Loge either. Thompson swore that the clos e t d oer ' ho whe sid nahemust have before, he w ou ld call Sa vory to show the way in which he lead forward b e e Ac. Stokes n I ing the game, and the pains he bad tak en . li e examined and knows jury that heard it s not.ok nke Emily . ily l S io at h i a i d or d also to about to show the feeling between him and the d eceare d M r . Jenny. There was no ill feeling between th em th a t was sdaboing this, not expressed by him (the prisoner) in an open and manly way. lie had said much more to Mr. Jermy himself than to any out else on the subject. Ho sent a copy of his pamphlet to him when it was fi rs t p u bli s h e d, and he had no doubt it still existed to prove the fact. He had particularly wished to know who the witnesses were that were to be brought against him, and there was plenty of time to do so; but that information had been c.i:hheld, The banks along: tho fields between Potash and the hall were very much broken, and, with ditches to cress and other impediments, it would be most dan gerous, and ho thought almost impossible, to pass along them in a dark night; but particularly it would be impossible to do so in a quarter of an hour, the time taken by the police-constable to walk it during the day. They bud heard what Mr. Cann said about the witness Emily Sandford. Had she spoken the truth at first there would not have bsen enough evidence to commit him; but finding that she was unduly tampered with, she was induced to say what has led her to the statements which she new made. Notwithstanding %%hat had been said that Emily Sandford was left alone atihelalf,he was sure the jury would not believe that all the time she was there she was not cften under examination. Honor Holmes stated that she was examined at three o'clock. If she had said now what she said on her second examination there would have been no evidence against him. This Cann had been keeping off and on with him; but if he was going to din just now he would say that there was nothing wrong in the evidence which Emily Sandford gave on her second examination. If he had the truth of what took place in the brown parlour, he could clear up the whole mystery in five minutes. He believed Watson to be an honest fellow, and that he gave his evidence in the brown parlour correctly enough, and that it was subsequently the story of the mask and all that was got up. The jury saw how Mrs. Bryant has been a go-between 'between Mr. Cann and Emily Sandford. They would find that Mr. Cann pressed the ' l its. ron the point that - tTfre was upon - her ot7li7.heir examined before the magistrate.;. Did the jui'y think that a sensible young person like that bid not kno that she was upon her oath, and that she spoke the truth actordingly ? lle was ex d from her examination, but he would n it have car. d for that if the reporters had been admitted, as they would have seen justice done. She was placed helore Cann, Hubbersty, and Co., and they wiaild remember what Hubbersty said last night. 'Ho • hop,(l the reporters had given that evidence correctly in the Gapers, as it was most important. Hubbersty stated that ho was not aware her evidence was read over to Emily Sandford, or if she signed it, but the jury would not be lieve that evidence he was sure. He must have known it. Was it likely that when Emily Sandford was giving that most important evidence in the Castle to Mr.Cann's father, Mr. Cann himself was away? Mr. Cann said that he took his (the prisoner's) watch as a security for a previous debt, but he could prove that it was not so. They might say that that was not very material; but he would show that it was; that he had been prevented in consequence from getting up his defence as lie ought, and that the evidence which had been got up against him in so extraordinary a manner ought to be rejected by the jury. When Emily Sandford was giving her evidence, some one said to her, " What you are now stating is not correct." Was it wonderful that he should become excited after hearing that? Had the reporters been in the room then, and his pocket book been given him, the whole case would have been blown in the air, and he would not have been there now. He would show before it was done that it was im possible to look at the agreements that had been spoken of without coming to the conclusion that the whole evi dence had been got up from beginning to end. Mrs. Bryant talked jto Emily Sandford at her examination constantly, and apologised to the magistrates for doing so; but why was that apology necessary if she was doing as she said, nothing but asking her if she wanted water? Again, Mr. Cann stated that he found but one letter be tween himself and him. He was employed by the pri soner's father's executors, and for his mother, in an action for ejectment brought against her, and then to turn about is the way that he has done! He (the pri soner) denied that he owed Mr. Cann a single half penny, except in respect of this last ejectment against his mother. It was well known that he was at Stanfield Hall on the '2lst, and yet none of the servants saw him there, not even Watson. He used sometimes to see Mr. Jermy himself at the window, and would then go right into him. He used to go there between eight and nine o'clock in the evening in this way, and did not be lieve he had seen these servants who talked so much about his appearance, more than three or four times in his life. To the best of his knowledge he was never objected to at Stanfield hall except once, and that was when they were at issue about the Felmingham farm. With regard to the agreements there was no foundation for the statements Emily Sandford had made about them. The concealed aperture in the closet at Potash he dis covered accidently, and as it struck him as a convenient place for shoving papers into he used it for that purpose. The evidence of Hubbertsy and Mr. Cann as to the dis covery of his papers there, was inconsistent. The former gave his evidence on that point very fairly; but Mr. Cann turned up the white of his eyes when he was an swering his questions. As to the evidence of Emily Sandford she has made from time to time so many state ments that one would have fancied it was complete before she was placed in the witness box; but on comparing what she has said formerly with her statements made in court, it was quite clear that she had said much more than she knew anything about. The prisoner was pro ceeding to another point, when The JUDGE said, as you have concluded your obser vations about Mr. Cann's evidence, perhaps now, if you reel fatigued, this will be a proper time for your taking some refreshment. The prisoner said, he was not fatigued, but would let his Lordship know when ho was. With reference to the wig, it was well known that some time ago he was losing his hair, and in consequence he ordered a wig from Norwich, which upon trial did not fit him. He in con sequence returned it to the barber, who sent it back to him again, and brought an action in the County Court for the price. It might be remembered that he put the wig on in court to decide the question. That was a well known fact, and he declared to God there was no secret about it. The jury here intimated a wish to retire for refresh ment, and the Court adjourned for a quarter of as hour. On the resumption of the proceedings— The prisoner said, that Elize's Chestuey's evidence be fore the Court the jury would compare with that given before the coroner and magistrates. She declared that the man who fired at her had neither bat nor cap on, but how could she, poor thing, have time to observe more than his general appearance, for there was the report of the gun, and the smoke, and all that sort of thing to pre vent her? It such evidence as she had given as to the shape of his head and his hair was to be sufficient, ho thought there was no evidence which might not he re ceived. It was quite monstrous that such things should be taken against him—a man with a large family; and he told them to reject such evidence in spite of anything his Lordship or counsel might tell them. What could be more conspicuous than going out with a wig on one's head, and supposing ho had used it that it would be suf fered to remain where it had been found afterwards? In this, as in everything else, God Almighty had been his guide, and he saw that in spite of all they had done, they could not bring home such a charge against him. Allow he had been a persecuted man, he had no ill.teeling towards Mr. Jenny; indeed he had far more ill-feeling against his solicitors than him. All attempts that had been made to prove that ill-will had failed. The putting on of this wig be fore Eliza Chestney, poor thing, could only have been intended to work upon her feelings, and it showed how far the prosecution had gone in getting up the case against him. He now came to the evidence of Emily Sandford, and he said now, as he said before, that it was the only evidence against him. He must go on with her evidence, and show why the jury ought to reject it from the evidence which she had given before. He would prove that her evidence from beginning to end was totally unworthy of credit, and he would do so from her own words. He would show that she had been in fluenced by what she had heard at the Hall. A great deal had been said about his going out late at night. As it was well known, people were in the habit of poaching over the farm—which was well stocked with game, particularly at that season of the year— he used to go out to watch the poachers; and there fore all the statements she made on this sub ject were quite true. He must admit the connexion , hat had existed between him and Emily Sandford, but there was an understanding as to their future mode of living; for he telt it would be advisable for her family and for his children that she should cease to hold that position in his house, and should become his house keeper. She could not help being aware of this arrange ment; but from the manner in which she had given her evidence the jury would see she was anything but friendly towards him, whatever she had been before. They had all heard her speak of the tears that had fallen from him—he had good rearon to ask her about them. The fact was, she wanted to go to a concert at Norwich, and he had given her a promise to take her. lie bought a ticket for five. His two eldest daughters, his son, and his son's wife, went with it. On considera tion he thought he could not let her go. When he re fused her she bore it so good and kindly that he could not held being affected, knowing how he had treated lo r. and seeing her so patient. (The prisoner's voice faltered very much here, and became almost choked with emo tion.) She agreed directly when he told her she could not go except by herself, for, recollecting the situation she was to hold in his house, he could not accompany her to the concert. He would have convinced her that the statement she made as to what took place was incorrect, Out when she said there was not more than an hour and a half between the time he went out arid came in, he thought it immaterial to press her. He thought the Learned Gentlemen would try hard to bring in all about the watches in evidence; but he had evidence about the time which would show clearly how the matter stsod, and how long he was out that night. She said he went out about eight o'clock. Now, let them recollect what Har vey, Holmes, and the others said was the time when they were at the Hall, as well us the nature of the ground between Potash and it—that there were three ditches, two of them very deep—and they would see it was im possii:le for any one to go from Potash to Stanfield and hack in double the time which appeared to have elapsed, comparing her statement of the time he went out and their account of the occurrence which took place. Harvey deposed it was half past seven o'clock when he left Wymondham. He went to the Hall and stood (here chatting for some time with the servants at the moat gate. Then he said ho saw some thing near the porch like a figure of a man, and that after the retiort he saw something fly up like wadding with a bright flame about 12 yards high. That was a most extraordinary thing. It might show the man, whoever be was, did not intend the harm he had done. As to the statement, he had no doubt it was a mistake in some respects, but it showed at all events that the witness was at the hall at the time. It would not be possible if he saw the man at the loft side of the porch for the latter to have gone round to the passage in the time which the witnesses state to have elapsed between the first and second reports; in fact, as he suspected, the other man must have been in the passage at the time of the first shot. Chestney and Reid were sitting by the fire talking, and very likely that he went some way along the passage before their attention was drawn to him by a rustling as he went along. But why had not all the people who were at the gate that night teen examined ? No one but Harvey talked of seeing a light in the hall before he heard the re port ; in fact, it could not be. It was not likely Mr. Jermy was shot the moment he opened the door, and as it remained open for the time they should have seen the light there. Suppose there had been only one man, and that man himself, did they believe it possible he would hare taken the course attributed to him? Why, he knew every chink and cranny in the hall. Did they think, then, he would have gone round, after firing the gun, to the passage? How could he tell that the ser vants were not all there close by? Wait to go round to meet them all! The fact was, if it had been he, he would have gone in at the porch door. It was a most awful and extraordinary thing for one man to think that an other would run in among a lot of people to do such a deed as this; and lie said, beside that, there was not suf ticient time, even on the longest calculation given in evidence, for a man to have run round to the passage from the porch. Emily Sandford stated, that theeuvse ing they drove over to Stanfield she was very and poserx anxious to go with him. Well, so she was. The fact had struck him before, and he never before knew of the rig marole account of their proceedings. There was some mystery about all this that he could not clear up. Great stress had been laid on the papers and agreements relat ing to the farm. If he could have Mrs. Jenny on the table he could ge t a good deal out for them a s t o w h at she knew of the Rev. Mr. Preston's will. He would take his o Lth he never had heard of the pap ers b e f ore with . the u;e which they had heard. They had all heard 4, 1849. - 7 - 1161V — ibe cried and sobbed when he asked h-r to copy there papers. So she had, poor thing; but not for the reason she had given. No! The fact was that she feared he was going to marry again, and the letter in em stion related to the subject of her fears. She had told them that he expressed great anxiety that it should not fall into the hands of his children. Lord of I leaven and earth! to be sure he had! Would it not be worse that a letter of such a kind should fall into the hands of young children than into those of a stranger almost? Though never mar, loved wife mere truly and faithfully than he had loved Emily Sandford, she always thought he was going to get married and to leave her. Well, but if her story were true, where were all her fine feelings and her sensibility at Potash farm? They had had no crying or sobbing there, and yet it' her story was true he had asked her to copy and sign papers which she must have known to be false—all her three deposi tions agreed on that point. Had she not the same feel ings then as before? And she must have known the name of Isaac Jermy to those papers was a forgery, and yet she neither sobbed nor cried, nor expressed the least dis inclination to sign them. It was not very likely indeed that he would ask her to do so if she had exhibited all those fine feelings before. jVhichever way they looked at this story they would find that it was totally false. " Murder would out," and he had no hesitation in saying that the real facts of the case at Stanfield-hall would soon come to light. He hoped God Almighty would convince Mrs. Jermy of the truth, and that she would be at last brought to feel that what he stated about the interview with Mr. Jermy was correct. If be was going out on any bad intent, or on such a horrid deed that night, he would have taken care to have been seen by some of his men, who could prove where he was out, and that he said he was going out after poachers. The basest lie that ever was said on God's earth was that he ever drank anything out of a bottle. It was what he called a fifth or sixth edition, and her statement as to this fact varied in her evidence, but in every shape it was untrue. She would make the jury believe that he was drunk. Most people who knew him could say that he suffered wonderfully from bilious headache at short intervals, and the reason why he told Emily Sand ford to leave the room on the night in question very probably was that he was ill at the time, and he had heard that a man who was in difficul ties was taking away the game by wholesale, and that was one reason why he went out earlier than usual on Friday night. As to the pair of stockings that were " muddy," they all knew it was quite ridiculous to talk of such of such a thing. They were introduced merely to give the Learned Gentlemen an opportunity of getting up their case. Then they make all this fuss about his going to Felmingham, and about the closet being burned. Why, it really was the case that the closet where the papers were kept was set on fire accidentally by the servant. But what had that to do with the case? Yes, they wanted to make it appear that papers had been burnt. It she believed him guilty of the charge, whom had Emily Sandford to look to? Her friends had not a farthing. They must consider, then, what a great temptation she was under, and how many motives she might have for all her story. Sho had said he was not well that night. He was, indeed, wonder fully hurt because he had refused her going to the con cert, and she took it so gently, and that made him seem unwell. He would be on his oath, if he was dying, that it was an hour after tea before he went out. At first Emily Sandford spoke the truth, but she deviated from it afterwards; and if she had adhered to what she told the magistrates (which was the fact), they would see it was impossible for him to hsve done so foul a deed in the time. What was the meaning of all the talk they had heard about fires at Potash and fires at Felmingham? She distinctly contradicted her first statement when she said the fire at Potash was bright and good that night. Next, let them look to what she said took place when he came home. Emily Sand ford could have seen him if she pleased when she opened the door, but she did not do so. As to the things which were found in the House, he never locked them up or made any secret of them. All her depositions agreed that she went to bed at nine o'clock, or half-pas t, and the time was impressed on h er b ecause s h e must have looked at the watch when she wound it up. The fact was, he told her to wind it up, and she had done so; but she denied it, as well as all the questions he had asked her about unfastening her dress, because in her examination before the magistrates she said she had only been in the room for a minute; when she asked what was amiss, he said something had happened, and that he would tell her as soon as she gut into her own room. He had done so. (The prisoner became confused for a moment). No, he would not say that; but he would take his oath he told her something had happened at Stanfield-hall, but she said she did not want to hear it; and it was all owing to his not insisting on telling her that so much trouble had followed. No one could possibly think that ho had committed so foul a deed on such evidence as had been adduced, and he never for a moment imagined that she could have thought him guilty of it, or he would have insisted on telling her. He was sure that every thing of importance to him had been rubbed out and de. stroyed in his pocket-book. Where, too, he asked, was the pocket-book of 1847? His firm impression was, that there were more people seen, and that the servants would not explain the reason why the fact was concealed. This was another proof that the evidence had been manu factured. Watson, who had most time to observe the man, might have imagined that he looked as described, and all the rest have taken their story from him. With reference to the evidence produced to establish his hand writing on the copy-book by Jesse White, it was a ter rible thing for a man to screw up his courage to swear as that man had done. White ; had, said that he would give up the figures, but he might as well give up the letters to, pour fellow. He contended, as to Gar void's evidence, that the fact of his hand shaking so that he could not cut a small slip of paper, proved clearly, that he had sworn what he was not sure of. But this was the way in which the whole case had been got up. For example, that fellow Cann brought for examina tion against him a man like Howe, one of the worst characters in London. The prisoner was still proceeding with his defence at half-past seven o'clock. The JUDGE said, that as the jury appeared quite fatigued by their long sitting, he wished to know how long the prisoner's defence was likely to last ? The prisoner said, some hours longer. In consequence the Court, at eight o'clock, adjourned —the prisoner having been about ten hours and a half on his legs. Eliza Chestney has had a relapse, owing to the impru dent announcement of the death of a brother. The worst consequences were for some time apprehended, but hap pily she is now again convalescent. Rush summoned a witness from London last evening, by electric telegraph. The gentleman arrived here by the first train this morning. NAVAL IN TELLIGh.ItiCE. PORTSMOUTH, TUESDAY.— The Reynard screw steamer, Commander P. Cracroft, arrived this morning at Spithead, from Gibraltar. Last night, after passing through the needles (no opportunity from violence of weather and other uncontrollable circumstances having before presented itself), at about 11 45 P. M. she " beat to quarters," the ship under all possible sail, stud dings ails slow and aloft, cast loose, and fired three rounds and both broadsides once, and secured the guns again in thirteen minutes ! This was done in pur suance of an Admiralty order, which enjoins that once ut least in six months the commanders of all ships specified in the order shall take their crews by sur prise, by exercising at general quarters in the night, test st this is afternoon, their to z i e t . tiou T t h p e r i e t v e i y o n u a s r n d o c ti a e m e, e i order into to arbourto efficiency, refit for foreign service. The St. Vincent, Penelope, and Polyphemus, are hourly expected at this port, where orders to be paid off immediately have been some time awaiting them. The Hibernia and the Queen will be paid off at De vonport. The Planet freight ship, Captain Booth, with detach mAits of Royal Artillery and the 42d Highlanders, for Bermuda, sailed this morning. Wind, N.W., light brez,-!s and dark cloudy weather. CASE OF MR. SHORE. (From the Western Times.) The Right lion. Earl Fortescue, Lord High Steward of the Queen's Household and Lord-Lieutenant of Devon, has contributed the sum of 20/. towards the fund for the relief of Mr. Shore, which the Noble Earl transmitted in the following letter:— " Clovelly Court, April 2, 1849. _ . " Sir,—Understanding that some of the friends of religious liberty, who, at the late meetings at Exeter and in London, expressed their sympathy for your sufferings, have followed up that expression with some exitributions for your relief, I beg to add the enclosed for the same object. In doing so, however, I wish not to be misunderstood. As the legality f the pro ceedings against you has been affirmed by every court, civil as well as ecclesiastical, to which they haze been referred, I cannot impugn, though I may regret, the conduct of those by whom such proceedings were insti tuted, but I have a right to denounce the inconsistency and injustice of that state of the law under which, as we have so frequently seen of late, clergym€ n seceding from the Church of England are allowed to undertake the ministry of the Church of Rome; whilst those who, like yourself, desire to devote their services to a dissent ing congregation, subject themselves thereby to prosecu tions and costs. " I hope that the just and tolerant spirit of our Legis lature will soon remove this blot from our statute-book, and that all seceders will be protected alike in following the dictates of their conscience, and in doing what they consider their duty to God. " I have the honour to be, Sir, " Your obedient servant, FORTESC OE. "Rev. J. Shore." EirrEE-HALL.—A egrand ight,r ls T s r t m in a g nc o e f of u a s n ac d r e e rs d music was given last ,g Coronation Anthem, Zadok the Priest, and Haydn's oratorio, the Creation. The principal attraction, which drew together one of the motshteCrOpwredceidneatsudioe f ne E es xe t t h e a r t ever congregated within Exeter hall. was Mdlle. Jenny Lind, who sang the sopr ano part in the Creation. The main object o f the perfor mance was a charitable one. Mdlle. Jenny Lind accorded her se rvices gratuitously, and after the band, chorus, and principal singers are paid, the surplus w ill b e di v id e d of among the Royal Societ y Musicians, the So c i e ty o f Female Musici ans , the Cho ral Fund, the Royal Academy of Music, and the G overnesses' e, Benevolent Institution. gd The receipts avera ge d, we understand, between 1,4001., and 1,500 L; which w ill guarantee at least 8501. for the benefit of those institutions. The performance was honoured by the presence of her Majesty and Prince Albert, who were attended with a numerous suite. Mrs. Barrow (late Miss Julia Bennett) has retired from the stage. We are sorry for it, and hope that she may yet change her mind, as we can ill spare, in the present state of the drama, one of its fairest ornaments. rr - E - RrGirr HON:LORD JOHN RUSSELL, M.P., &c. &c. &c. My Lord,— Most sincerely do I congratulate the in habitants nut °lily of Ireland but of Great Britain, that your Lordship and Lord Clarendon have convinced "Dr. Arnold's One eyed Men." and that the Cabinet have at last reco;znised the principle, " That there is a dis tinction in the present anomalous condition of Ireland which calls for appropriate remedies, however contrary they might be to the principles of sound policy ur.der ordinary circumstances." I quote the spirit, and as f ar a; brevity will per m i t , t h e l etter of your Lordship ' s ob servations to the deputation of Irish Members. Your Lordship proceeded to indicate three of the re medies on which the Cabinet are agreed, viz., assistance in the formation of railroads in the destitute districts— lending more money to Irish landlords, enabling them to employ the people —and arterial drainage; all most excellent, but yet, as a matter of fact capable of the strictest proof, not combining the maximum of employ meet with the minimum of expenditure, to the extent the reclamation of waste lands would have done; but I suppose it was politic to soften the fall of your Chan cellor of the Exchequer. However, the principle that interference by the Go vernment in the employment of the people, is, under the circumstances, a matter of duty, being fully admitted, it will be comparatively easy to apply that principle as occasion may require —following Lord Stanley's states manlike view of the wisdom of applying to different distressed localities that remedy which is most appro priate: to one, arterial drainage; to another, encourage ment of fisheries ; to a thi r d, th reclamation of waste lands; to others, the formation of harbours, railroads, and emigration. Bat I warn your Lordship to be very careful how these remedies are applied. Remember that the plan of Lord Besborough was most excellent in theory, and un doubtedly would have worked well, if the Government, in stead of waiting so long for the return of the potato, had given proper consideration to the detail—keep closely in view the fact, that however unprofitable pauper labour may be, when employed by the union, it is infinitely more so when in the service of the State, and do not forget the Shannon job. Sir Robert Peel, always at the-fag end of the right view of every question with which his name is con nected, having at last discovered the truth of that which Cobbett advanced nearly half a century back, now calls upon the Irish nation to give up waiting for the potato—modest request, forsooth, from him I—the truth being that no bog trotter in Connemara has more anxiously waited for the return of the potato than Sir R. Peel and those Members who opposed your Lordship's measure for the reclamation of waste lands. But " truth is great and will prevail." Had Sir Robert Peel made this notable discovery when he was in power, the first year the potato partially failed, what misery would not have been averted, what money saved, and how infinitely better would have been the condition of the Irish people I For it was Sir R. Peel who, while waiting for the re turn of the potato, introduced the withering plan of giving food without work, finding it less troublesome to do this than to devise, as a statesman should have done, some means of meeting a national calamity other than feeding the people in idleness, and whistling for the potato. It was the introduction of this pernicious practice by Sir Robert Peel which was one of the principal causes of the failure of Lord Besborough's plan. The labourer, who had been demoralised by receiving food without earning it, was not likely to make an efficient workman in the succeeding year; however, Sir Robert is now expiating his sin by travestying Lord Bacon, and proposing to colo nize a country teeming with inhabitants. When your Lordship introduced the measure for the reclamation of waste lands, Sir Robert Peel, still gaping for the return of the potato, untruly described it as the draining of bogs, and ridiculed it as undeserving of con sideration; yet let him compare the following table with his colonizing scheme:— SIR ROBERT PEEL'S PLAN. RECLAMATION OF WASTE Purchase of 10,000 acres LAND. of land, rent varying from Purchase of 10,000 acres 20s. to 40s. per acre; free of waste land, rental vary rental, after deducting poor ing from 2s. 6d. to ss. per rate, say 20s. per acre, acre; free rental, alter de -10,000/., at 25 years' pur- ducting poor rate, say chase or 250,0001. 1,5001., per annum, at 25 years' purchase, 37,5001. So that Sir Robert Peel's colonizing scheme would re quire above six times the capital to take the first step, viz., to acquire the property; and after this, the reclama tion of waste lauds would require far more capital ex pended in the employment of the people than the im provement of laud could possibly absorb—in truth, Sir Robert Peel's plan is nothing more or less than a plan for the benefit of the mortgagee, caring nothing about the Irish landlord, the Irish tenant, the Irish labourer, or the pockets of the Mash people. I have the honour to remain, Your Lordship's moat obedient servant, Corwar, April 2, 1849. RIGBY %VASON. TO THE SECRETARY OF THE METROPOLITAN REFORM ASSOCIATION. Sir,—On the subject of Savings Banks, and the question whether the Government did or did not hold out the existence of Government security for money lodged in them, I beg to copy the following paper, or dered by the House of Commons to be printed:— CHELSEA PENSIONERS (IRELAND). RETURN to an Order of the Honourable The House of Com mons, dated 13 March 1849 ;—for, COPY " of a CIRCULAR addressed from the War Office to the Staff Officers in Ireland, on the Subject of Disposrrs is SAVINGS BANKS by CHELSEA PENSIONERS, dated the 23d day of September 1843." EXTRACT from a CIRCULAR Litmus from the Secretary-at- War addressed to the Staff Officers in Ireland, on the Sub ject of DEPOSITS in SAVLN4II6 BANKS by CHELSEA. PEN SIONERS, dated the 23d January 1843. " For this purpose, when the Staff Officer observes that any Pensioner is in receipt of wages sufficient for his support, he will point out the propriety of putting aside a portion of his Pension in a Savings Bank, to meet the contingencies of sickness and want of employment, when they may happen to occur; and in order to afford the Pensioner every informs.. tion which may induce him to do so, the Staff Officer will place in some prominent part of his office the Rules of the Savings Banks, and explain to every Pensioner in full em ployment, that for whatever sums he may lodge there, Government security will be afforded him for repayment, with interest. If the Pensioner consents that a certain por tion, per month or per quarter, of his Pension shall be so de posited, the Officer will facilitate the arrangement by every means in his power. It is hoped that by due attention to the interest of the Pensioner in this respect, without, at the same time, exercis ing any unwarrantable degree of interference with his private affairs, much may be:done to ameliorate his condition, and at tach him to his Officer, by a feeling of gratitude for thus pro tecting him against the risk of destitution when suffering from sickness or the want of employment." N. B.—There was no Circular from the War Office of the 23d of September 1843. War Office, 23 March 1849. 172. On Monday the 2d, and on Tuesday, the debate was continued on the Rate in Aid (Ireland) Bill, which was read a second time, by 1 93 against 138. Mr. Herbert's amendment for substituting an Income and Property Tax to be raised in Ireland in addition to any taxes of that kind already raised there, is to be moved in Com mittee; which will give an opportunity of testing the strength of the desire to see the charge more fairly laid on wealth. F. MAULE. I am, Sir, your obedient servant, AN OLD REFORMER. London, April 4, 1849. NORTH HINTS ELECTION. WINCHESTER, TUESDAY. STATE OF THE POLL. Portal. Shaw. 121 ~. 120 75 ... f3l 114 ... 57 175 ... 125 159 ... 47 129 ... 89 76 ... 94 Winchester, four o'clock Andover, four o'clock Alum, three o'clock ... Basingstcke, four o'clock Kingsclere, two o'clock Odidam, four o'clock Petersfield, three u'clock 849 ... 663 Majority for Portal ... 186 Mr. Shaw's trit,nds appear very sangaino of being at :he head of the poll to-morrow. THE NEW Nowa., " LADY ALrcE."—lligh lifb as it really exists in the more exclusive circles has rarely been pourtrayed with fidelity even in the best novels ; but a work has just been issued under the titlo of "Lady Alice," which the most exeusive coteries, it is said, have acknowledged to be eminently characteris tic and faithful. It is at once a picture of high per sonages, the high Church party, and high principles, as existing in high places. The story, too, is equally elevated with those who are made to figure in it, and evidently proceeds from a mind of a high order. "Lady Alice" is a production that will interest alike the re ligious, fashionable, and literary world. From _ thethe peculiar character of the work, and the positionof author, the name of the writer, it is understood, is not a t n h d e an i t t , oy o a f 1 t c h intended to be divulged. —Evening Paper. EXPERIMENTS AT THE ROYAL ARsENAL.--WOOL aagrerison Carriage 2.—Lieutenant -General Sir Thos. Down wren, APRIL _ Major-General Lacy, Director-General of Artillery; men, C.B. and K. 1, C 3 7 : :: : , c to c : m ot u: Lieutenant-Colonel English, Commanding Assistant erai I tCo De partmentroyit;m and ei I; Gordo n, lajor l3u rn ~ Officer of Royal Engineers; Lieutenant-Colonel Chat mar, Assistant-Director -Gen of Artillery; Lieute nant-Colonel Ilardinge, KAI , Director of the Labors eicetothr e of n A e rt a il i lery, assembled at eleven o'cl, - )ek at the b n u s Ar senal, to witness experiments to test the strength Y of a two-gun battery constructed of a patented m a terial. Captain Lawrence, Royal . Artillery, also attended in charge of a two-gun detachment to man one 8-inch howit zer, from which shells were fired, and one 32-pounder garrison gnu, from which solid shot were fired. Thirty rounds were fired from the howitzer with the usual ser vice-charge of powder, and 30 rounds from the 32- pounder gun, and the battery stood remark a bly well, although the firing from the 32-pounder gun was tried at extreme angles, which directed a great portion of the explosive force against the work. The composition of the battery is kept secret, but it may be described as having a bituminous appearance, into which a great quantity of gravel and other substances has been poured I when the composition was in a fluid state. Two plat forms have also been constructed of the same material, and the one on which the 32-pounder gun is placed stood well; but the other was partially injured by the howit zer carriage. The axle of the 32-pounder gun carriage, formed of iron, was broken, and the wood 'if the howit zer carriage injured. The Commissioners for the Reduction of the Na- tional Debt held a quarterly meeting yesterday. The Chancellor of the Exchequer, the Governor of the Bank of England, and the Deputy Governor were-present. Mr. Higham, Secretary and Comptroller-General, was in attendance. !