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~t+ .iM America, which were built on a much larger scale. His Lordship then glanced at the ex pence incurred in ship-building of late years, a branch in which he thought every possible eco nomy should be used. Viscount MELVILLE ObSAl'Ved, it should be considered that it was not only on-the number of our ships we should rely for protection, but on their strength and durabi4ity. So mach for the Noble Earl's argument as to the expence. The utmost attention was-paid to the construction of our ships of war, and it had been found that to repair vessels of the second class was less expen sive than to build new ones. It was true that the American frigates were constructed on a larger scale than oars, but it was not so with re spect to the European powers ; and he main tained that a British vessel of 'eqnal weight would be a match, ormore than a match, -for any vessel in the universe. The Noble Earl explained, but proposed no motion on the subject. NIARREAGE ACT .IAIENDMENT BILL, &c. On the motion of Lord ELLENtOROUGH, the Lords were ordered to be summoned to go into the Committee to-morrow en the Marriage Act Amendment Bill ; aid the Committee on the Irish Chancery Court Bill was postponed till to morrow also. ALIEN BILL. Lord SIDMoUTIr, in rising to move the Order of the Day for the second reading of this Bill, 'said, it was now unnecessary for him to advert to the undoubted right which appertained to the prerogative of the Crown, not only to orderfo reigners out of the kingdom at pleasure, but also to prohibit them from entering it. This right was imprescriptible, and not to be disputed. The Bill proposed in 1818 did little more than define and accelerate the niannv in which the preroga tive of the Crown. Was to be acted upon. It would be for their Lordships to consider whe ther, since -the Bill of 1818 was passed, any fa -vourable alteration had taken placein the circum stances of this country, or of .Europe, to render the measure lessmeceSsarynowthan at that period. He regretted, however, to . state, that on the con trary, the Bill appeared to him now to be more ur gently and imperathely called for than at the time it was first proposed. lie should not shrink from performing his duty with regard to this measure, however• Noble Lords might differ with him upon its general or particular merits. With this feeling upon his mind, lie should now move that the Bill be read a second time. The Earl of DARNLEY apposed the motion. Ile regretted that be had not been present on the former occasion to express the sentiments of in -dignation he felt at a measure so truly disgraceful to the character of the country. lie deprecated the conduct of his Majesty's Ministers in coming forward year after year, and calling for such a Bill as this in a period of profound peace. Lord JIOLL vxD should not now trouble their Lordships with a repetition of those reasons which had induced -him to oppose the measure :in the first instance ; it was needless for him again to say, that he still thought it cruel, unjust, im politic, and unconstitutional; He should not therefore detain their LordshiPs with a further - description of it, and perhaps it would be as well not at that hour of the evening ; he found- it would be irksome to them to attend to him; nor, perhaps, would the public feel an interest in the subject, from the agitated state in which the public mind now stood. The Bill was, in his opinion, neither more nor less than a satire and a libel on the laws of England. It was as much as to say that the laws of England were not sufficient for the protection of Englishmen. It was hostile to the spirit of the Constitntion, and destructive of all the principles of a free Government. The arguments of the Noble Viscount in support of the Bill were simply two—first, he argued, that the power of sending aliens out of the country, was a preroga tive of the Crown ; and secondly, he contended, that there was a strong presumption, that the power given •by this Bill would not he abused.— He ( Lord H.) had made no researches upon the question of prerogative ; but he was prepared to maintain, that if it was a wholesome prerogative, and if it were advantageous for the people that it should be exercised, then, .and then only it could be considered as a prerogative belong ing- to the first Magistrate of this country. The Noble Viscount had said, that the power was not abused—that only nine persons in all had been sent out of the country wider the late Alien Bill. He would not say any thing as to the abuse of the power, but this he knew, that whatever had been done beyond the Bill, against the unfortunate objects of it, they had no opportu*y for redress. He looked upon it as a contradiction of the spirit of all our laws, as •snbverting the foundation of British jurispru dence to entrust arbitrary power to any man, or any set of men, on the presumption that it would not be abused. Nor did he think that it was any reason, that because an Alien Act was passed in ISIB, an Alien Act should also be passed in 1 hear !) The Earl of LIVERPOOL defended the MCa.• snre, and argued, that, though the power which it went to give already existed in the Crown by Common Law, yet it could not be so convenient ly- exercised as under the Bill. It was essential that every State should possess the means of ex chiding, and of course of expelling, any p erson not possessing the rights and interests of a member of the State. The same power that was now called for had been entrusted to the Government at for- mer times, and he was at a loss to see what there was in the present state of this Country, of Eu rope, or of the world, which would afford .a suf ficient reason to Parliament to hesitate in con tinuing to the Executive Government the posses sion of that discretionary power. lie repelled the charge made against the Austrian G Govern milit by th e Noble Baron, and contended, that that Government had exhibited the utmost in tegrity of charact e r. Lord HOLLAND in explanation, said, he sup posed it at the Treasury had last nip, - ht received from the Austrian Government the sums due to this country, and that that was the foundation of the eulogitirn bestowed by the Noble Earl on the integrity of that Power..---(A laugh!) The Earl of CARNARVON and Lord CALTHORPE opposed the Bill. The Howe .then divided when the numbers were — Contents Not Contents Majority in favour of the second re3dinK.... —lO The Bill was then read a second time, and or dered to be "committed. The other Orders of the Day were disposed of, and the House adjourned. [For the Proceedings in the House of Commons, set the Fourth Pagr.] FOR THE SUN. MR. EDITOR—I have watched The Times and Chronicle for the last three or four days, but find that they pay no attention to the attack made on them by you relative to the supplying money to the Cato-street Conspirators. I shall be very happy if you can give a probable reason for their silence. A LOVER OF TRUTH. 'Tuesday Evening, July IS. • It is proper to remind our Correspondent that we made no " attack' on the Papers alluded to; not cOneeiviug that they would pay any money fur the purpose in question. We only expre.,i-ea one syrnri.ve that they should.have been silent un der so solemn a declaration made by one of his Majesty's Mi nisters in the House of Commons, viz. that the persons were known who nit supply mosey on the occasion, and our still greater surptize that none of the Parliamentary Hunters fur sri,ranees should have called on the '.lliilister to expose the names of such traitors to their country, .if they could nut be brought to punishment. Such silence. is mysterious, consi dering that they are in general by no means inclined to tad tarni,%T. THE OLD TIMES. The conduct of The Old Times, since the un fortunate event of the arrival of her MAJESTY, has been so illiberal and indecent, that it may well expose it to the contempt, indignation, and abhorrence of the Public. Its language has been as coarse as its sentiments were offensive and insult ing, not only to Government, but to the Sovereign ; insomuch, that it may be thought to have been conducted by a Dustman, or some person of a 'still lower and more degrading rank. In fact, to use its own favourite words, its language has been C 4 filthy," "a mass of corruption," and other expressions with we shall not soil our Paper. But the character and conduct of The Old Times is so properly treated in The Courier of last night, that we deem it a part of public duty to reprint the article, just observing, that the former Paper has wholly passed it over, without the least notice.this day, but has given a long disiusting article upon the subject of the Royal Plate, though that question must have been satisfactorily explained in the opinion of all parties. From " The Courier," July 8.) "The scandalous language which continues to be employed by a certain portion of the press, with respect to the Italians who sire to he witnesses against her MAJ LSTY fills the mind of every tespectable person with disgust. In 77ce Times of yesterday, for example, they are called • miserable filthy crea tures,' • wretches," a -cargoes{ human impurity, such as was never before landed, nut only in this country, but not eten at Botany Boy.' There have been periods of our history, when such infamous calumnies, cast upon witnesses, ere they had spoken a word, and those witnesses summoned to give their evidence before the highest judicial tribunal in the Kingdom, would have consigned the writer to Newgate and the pillory. Why do the laws sleep? Why does his MAJESTY'S ATTORN iv G. NER A L stiffer the interests of public justice to be - compromised in this way ? Why does the House of Lords endure to be insulted by the flagitious accusation, that it is about to receive the depositions of per . sons, more profligate, more dept aced, more infamous, than any felons that have ever been tsatispurted to Botany Bay I Do their Lordships, do the Ministers, know that the wit nesses merit this character ? Do those Noble Lords, who composed the Secret Committee upon whose ltepurt the Bill of Pains and Penalties against the QUEEN has been intro duced, believe that they merit this character ? Their Report belies the supposition. Why then are they passive ? They are themselves libelled, grossly libelled ; the country is li belled; public justice is libelled, by such malicious, such detestable, such infamous imputations. The same Jour nal adds, that the witnesses were • detected and ill-treated because - they had a villaiaous appearance, :tad their errand was inferred from their /00h5..." Is England then so de graded, so brutalised, that a man shall not he believed upon his oath, if his face happen to be ill-favouced. We shall he told, perhaps, this is vulgar trash, not wisi thy of serious notice. But this sort of trash is meant for vulgar readers ; it is transformed into placards, and stuck up in the public thoroughfares of the metropolis—it is copied into all the se ditious publications of the Kingdom—and. the lower classes of the cominnoity, to minister to whose passions this pandering is performed, are infected with principles which would dis grace a horde of barbarians. We repeat it. The law officers of the Crown are abandoning their first and greatest duty, it they sutler the stream of 1 uhlicjustice tube thus polluted. We defy any one to mention, in aft)' period of our history, attempts so systematic and so disgraceful as are now making, to ob struct the administration of the laws, in a great and solemn inquiry, by traducing witnesses of whom, in reality, nothing is known, anti by exciting such a spirit of mob-vengeance against them, as must place teem in fear, and thus have the effect of the most ferocious intitaidatioti. Impartial and equal justice cannot be administered under snot a sqatens, and we leave it, therefore, to their consideration whose business it is, to take care that justice shall be administered equally and impartially, to, determine whether they will prosecute the contrivers and employers of such a system. " In the same article from which we have extracted the above specimens of radical sit ulence, we hied the following sentence: When eve sea the class of men who in this coun try hare COl:Signed themselves to everlasting infOmy, by or ganizing, directing, and managing the detestable Milan Com mission, we think we are timie than justified,' &c. We leave it to the distinguished individual, eshu was at. the head of the Commission, we leave it to those respectable and irre pioachable persons who assisted that ilidividual, to settle it with themselves whether they will patiently he told that they • are consigned to everlasting itifamy.' If the laws really cannot afford those individuals the reparation they have a right to demand—if such be the condition of the country, and of our courts of justice—then we say, the sooner we have a change, aye, a Revolution, if it must be so —th e better. The bitterest condition of slavery is to live under laws, whose theory alone is freedom, but whose prac tice is oppression." Six prisoners confined. in Litchfield Gaol, early on Monday morning last, effected their escape, but were brought back to their old quarters, with the aid of the military stationed in that city, in about two hours time. Several young whales, one of which appeared to be about thirty feet long, have recently been seen in the River enai, in Wales, between the Swilly Rocks and the Garth Ferry-house. LO LO J 0 ti RNALS, [TM ILY E_YTRACTS --r-qpo..-- FROM THE MORNING PAPERS OF TIIIS D:1 Y. [:llarning Post.] The House of Commons, lkst nighkadjourna to Monday next, what' the geii4rakt - ^Oarnmelst' of bah houses to the middle of August is ex pected to take place. Most of the Judges will by that time have returned from their circuits, and the advantage of their presence being obtain ed, the trial of the QUEEN will commence, and be conducted in a manner best calculated to produce impartial and substantial justice. In the mean time, it is distressing to witness the expedients resorted to for the purpose of inflaming the rab ble, and prejudging the case in the minds of the ignorant and the thoughtless. Not only are in citements continued to be held forth to murder the witnesses summoned to prove the alleged crimes, but the most unfounded charges are brought forth in aid of the iniquitous purpose. An additional in stance of this practice was afforded by the, pro ceedings in the House of Commons on Monday evening, when, after having taken the House by surprise on the subject on Saturday, in the absence of the only Minister who could speak to the question, the insinuation was repeated that the King or his Ministers had withheld a ser vice of plate from the Queen which lawfully belonged to her. Lord Castlereagh's manly and excellent speech, however, proved beyond the possibility of doubt, not only that the plate in question did not belong to her Majesty, but that it was expressly delivered for her use, as a loan while resident in Kensington Palace, and that there neither was, nor is, any authority in the Crown itself te deliver it otherwise. The House did not fail immediately to perceive the purpose for which this question had been agitated ' • and well might a respectable Member remark that " some steps had been taken by the Queen as if for the express purpose of creating agitation ;" a remark which the House received with repeat ed cheers.—We cannot help adverting to the short speech made by Mr, Martin on the same occasion—supplying as it did not only some ar gument, but a material piece of information, de livered in plain and emphatic language ;—upon which fact—the payment of ten thousand pounds to the Queen for her law advisers—the Public will probably agree with us, that the sum is ob viously too large. The Learned Gentlemen, we fear, will never be able- to satisfy themselves that they have done enough, if only one half of this sum should become their fees. A less reward would have left their minds more at ease—to say nothing of the case of others ; but it proves that the King and his Ministers are resolved to afford her Majesty not only the most liberal, but un bounded means of defending herself against the charges upon which she is about to be tried ; while the forms of. investigation will be such, that the utmost latitude will be allowed her, in order that substantial justice may be duly ren dered. [Morning Chronicle.] In the discussion on the Alien Bill in the house of Lords last night, Lord Holland stated an objection to it, which we believe has never been urged before, though certainly a most ma terial one, namely, that it had a necessary ten dency to deprive her Majesty the Queen of wit nesses in the following way : if, for instance, certain persons were compelled to fly from the Austrian dominions in Italy, to avoid punishment for that which the Austrian Government might consider criminal, but which others might consi der highly meritorious, and now residing in France or the Netherlands, should happen to be possessed of the knowledge of circumstances of great importance to the defence of the Queen, they might very naturally refuse to come forward from an apprehension that this would ex pose them to the risk of being given up to the Government from which they had fled—a Go vernment mean and unprincipled enough for any act, however flagitious. Against this suppo sition, which is every thing but improbable, Lord Liverpool had nothing to urge but the injustice of it . towards himself and his Colleagues, and to wards the Austrian Government, which he very prudently (at the present moment) complimented for many virtues, hitherto, we believe, seldom attributed to it in this country, and never, we be lieve, by any who have set foot within its do minions in Italy. Some considerable interest having been excited by the precipitate manner in which the French Minister quitted the United States, and his arrival in Europe having been construed into an expect ed rupture between the two countries, we are en able to state, that M. Hyde de Neuville returns on leave of absence, which he had solicited some time ago. Mr. De Menou, who left Europe as Se cretary Of Legation about four months since, is to take his place for the present. There is, how ever an important point Of difference existing be tween the French and American Governments, relating to a wish on the part of the former to raise the duties payable on produce imported into France in United States bottoms, and this ques tion is now under discussion between them, but it is thought that it will be amicably settled.— (Ibid.) [New Times.] The ground of defence taken by most of hei Majesty's friends, real or pretended, appears to us injudicious, in another point of view. They talk loudly of her exalted sentiments, of her dig nified, refined, and even delicate conduct : but this is really unfair to her Majesty herself. It creates expectations, the disappointment of which may give perhaps too great a weight to some circumstances wholly irreconcilable with the previous assumption. In the very outset of the case, it leads to most glaring inconsistencies. We are gravely desired to believe that there is no indecorum in a Queen's taking a running foot wan to be her chamberlain—and upon this is built a still more curious argument. This foot man-chamberlain, it is said, " is bound to b with his Royal Mistress at all times and in til t places ;" and therefore his being with her a t times and in places which, in yky other man/ would create a legal presumptilasof gut -e: p i t no str,,b presupption in rega \ rd to hi 15 not this 17tki.y abgurd ?is it not mak c. •tat to injure hee Niajes‘y's% ciakelNN ll4 . not be a great deal fairer ankmore manly, an t therefore more judicious, to admit that it is inde corous in a Princess to shower favours and 11 0- nours on a male attendant engaged to perform only menial offices—that it is indiscreet to take a pauper's child from a workhouse,_ carry bia l every where about with her, and make -hiln Chevalier of this and that Order of Knighthoodi. that it is unbecoming to drive about the street s f'`, the metropolis attended by a rabble of boys We do not wish to judge these things harshly- We do not say that they are to be called crimes or offences; but it would he wise to ,acknowledg e at once, that they are improprieties ) which may perhaps be.excused, or at least extenuated, by the circumstance of her Majesty's foreign origin,,eclu; cation, and habits. Sure we are, that this mode °` considering the subject would in no degree pre judice her Majesty's cause 'in its graver 0 (1. weightier aspects ; but on the contrary 'nig h " afford a solution to some appearances, which it would be impossible otherwise to reconcile wit h notions of innocence. BOXING BETWEEN PAINTER AND OLIVER, FOIL THE NORWICH SUBSCRIPTION PURSE OF 10005 a This fight took place at North Walsham, 15 miles from the City of Norwich, and above 13 ' from the Metropolis, on Monday last, for a purs e of 100 guineas, given by the Amateurs of th e . above City. It is impossible to describe the terest which the above battle excited in o ' s county, and for three weeks previous to the tit s every vehicle was engaged. It was equal, if O t superior, to Moulsey Hurst upon one of its gates days ; and so much was Painter the object of at traction, that the Amateurs of the above Ci t i, built for him a stage of 100 yards in length, faL the accommodation of spectators. At a few 01i " nutes before one, Oliver threw up his hat in the 5 ring, followed by Crib and Torn Belcher as his seconds ; and shortly afterwards Painter appea r ' ed, attended by Spring and Paul from Mau' chester. The odds were 5+ to 4on Painter• - ",. On the latter seeing Oliver, he shook hands with him. ROUND I. Both of the combatants were in hi;4ll conditio7 but particularly. Painter, who weighed 13 stone 71b. f or b :d men, it was one of the most cautious rounds ever Wit "S S ' ; and finer science was never displayed on both sides to 30 . contest. Oliver got away in a close from the fibbing systel4 and after two or three hard hits, and ten minutes b' elapsed, Oliver threw Painter.—(Slight applause.) 2. Painter on coining up to the scratch, shewed the 5 d blood tram his nose; and this round was also distinguisi!re for its great caution on both sides. Several hard hits w' o , exchanged, and Painter received one on his left eye that ner34114 closed it. At the ewires - Painter fibbed Oliver ( Jowl. ; shouting now for painter was like a fire of artillery; • to I without hesitation. These .two rounds occupied 24 —1 mates. 3. Oliver now spewed claret, hut he hit Painter's left eil f quite up ; also cut his cheek, and*thiew Painter. 4.. A severe round, and both much distressed; -when b° went down, but Oliver undermost. eVy • 5. Painter received a tremendous hit on his right che like a cut with a knife, that produced the claret ; but 00104- was ultimately hit down. The applause now was outrag e° 3l: and the Norfolk damplins almost jumping out of the put joy. G. Great caution; but in a struggle both down. • ter il l 7. Both stopped cleverly ; however, O li ver hit Palo ~r front of his head. Painter also made a good hit ; but had decidedly the best of it till both down: . d 8, 9. In the latter round Oliver hit Painter down ; - nce st; Oliver was now thought to have so much the best of it, li / 5 to 1 was offered upon him. cOir r 10. A minute elapsed before a hit passed between the as. batants; Oliver experienced a heavy fall, and Painter el upon him. it. This was a sharp round, but Oliver went down• dd . 12 and last. This was a terrific round, and Oliver 1 1,0 sonic terrible hits; but at the Yu; es he received a trem en hit on his right ear that 'loured him, anti when time was 4 rpl ed, he could not leave his second's knee. It woul d ee vain to describe the burst of applause from the Norwi c h ,', 4 ol pie ; but the Londoners were electrified, and could 13.1 believe it. Oliver soon recovered, and wanted to rel'e v ' o at combat, but that was nut permitted. The latter wa s , punished much, and put on his own clothes, and sat d 0 ",, ., the ring to view the other fight, but he soon left the REstaliEs —lt was by no means safe to Painter; but b s ide9 l . played great caution, and it was a good fight on bot h occupying 51 minutes. The stakes of the ring, in i ' ait4 l o s of the I'. C. were painted green. Ups arils of .20,00 0 P e 'd i elS were present, and drawing-room order prevailed. The Y v ie were delighted beyond illeitCllTC. Numerous swells fro° art do A n raced the rig with teir . j; iii second battle for a pu r se o f 50 resance guineas, between x , . n and the Birmingham youth (Sampson) was won by Maratind it 40 minutes. Sampson was beat by superior strengt h, was by no means a gooel fight. . 5 bear Painter will net, it is said, 10001. b y his victory; l ' is on Saturday last, produced a good sum. tb e HIGH TREAsoN.—John Baird, another 0 1 n j Bonnymuir party, has been tried and re guilty. The Glasgow Courier says—" It ported that the remainder of the Bonnym oll. '„kt soners (18 in number) are to plead GujitYL - 01 - of course a mitigation of punishment ) as to the will follow." 0 DSc In the Court of Justiciary at Edinburgh, on Fria 3 Y,:,n° Jahn Sharp was convicted of firing a loaded pistol at thetl;jad ty patrol, in Main-street, Brid g eton, GlaSgeW, on the 19 „ i tlt . ituary last, and sentenced to be executed at tilasguW -r 16th of August. d o o' During the thunder storm on Sunday last, two YenT;,isot 2 , 6 from Old-street-road, who had gone out for a (133 . ' 5 P', l lii - to Hampstead , took shelter near a cottage inhahlte hic 4 milkman, who most hinclly invited them into his house,;Cce % i ti l u' e t Y ‘ * vi d t ( h c i i n in a ed fe'w sa n 3i i't ) i g ut t e l s ity a the existence of one of them. „ 0 6 he r ° A very respectably dressed female was found in t . 00 14 ; near the Church, Clapham-common, on Saturday, 1 1, e 4 Cof f ., flash of s; i e f ry li s i s 6 -ell where t heY ea d c ii accidentally goinz in to wash his cart,hrtentit':ll):lottaleif ',,, Inn to be owned ; supposed to have drowned lie, fr' the night about 1.2 nights hack. The pond is contin.t:'l(oos, quested for the above purpose. She wore w hite ki" and in other respects ele g antly dressed. ! 0 0 1( , A Dublin Paper states t h a t Edwards l ' in that city. ~ to Pr e ' CORN-ExcHANGF i JULY 19.—0 W 'n IV late heavy rains, and a continuation of sh°l4l,sosl''. plies of Wheat, the demand was tolerably, „trice 80' •ll this morning for fine samples, and an aa at f rorii obtained the perquarter Delog of 2s. per quarter on Monday ' s prices was dearer, ; a bOoavtes causes es, full Grindingl s . Bar leY ' F3o l° • d . Bast ou scarce, is also ls. per quarter higher ; a as and Peas sold on full as good t erms Monday. 'I