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Tickets and Places to be had at the Box Office, dart -street, Covent-garden ; and of Mr. Sinclair, 93, Charlotte street, Fitzroy-square: SOCIETY FOR PROMOTING THE ENLARGEMENT OF CHURCHES AND CHAPELS. THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING of this SOCIETY will be held at the FREEMASONS' TAVERN, by adjournment, from the Third Thursday in May (being the Anniversary of the Feast of the Sons of the Cler gy), to WEDNESDAY, the 26th Instant. His GraCe, the Archbishop of CANTERBURY will take the Chair et Twelve o'Clock precisely. W. JOHNSON RODBER, 32, Lincoln's Inn Fields, Sub-Secretary. May 10, 18.24. PARLIA:WENT. HOUSE OF LORDS , MAY 10. Returns from the office of the Secretary of State for Ireland were presented at the bar, and an account of the receipts and disbursements of the Liverpool Dock Company. The Earl of LIVERPOOL gave notice, that to-morrow he would move the Committee of last session on Scotch judicature. The Earl of LAUDERDALE gave notice, that he would on Friday move the second reading of the Silk Bill. Lord HOLLAND presented a petition against the Combina tion Laws from the journeymen sawyers of Manchester and Salford. _ a 49 iii a 71°' r boli--- ey Is 611 ROYAL ACADEMY, SOMERSET PLACE. THE EXHIBITION of the ROYAL ACA DEMY is now OPEN. Adtnission (kois. Eight o'Clock till Seven), Is. Catalogue, Is. HENRY HOWARD, R.A. Sec. lIITERESTINCi TO THE LADIES. 72s Od f ey ---, t° Lord CALTHORPE presented petitions from the Wool growers of Woodbridge, and from other wool-growers of the county of Suffolk, against the repeal of the duties on foreign wool. Beans s Bs Od , 7d; . n 51 ad r Dead• 79 4d a . O aas —Oat , a Os Od I 7s 4d s Os Oa ; ma r ly the nomi pricea er at a 59- 5 a 40 a 49s a 40 a 59 1 a 5.2% a 311 Od -s od rs Od od 3s Od 39 Od -s Od )lied Per per. 'thee con- 4 ; 33S es , "'"'s ---;. :3<xl the the Kat od od Qd , ,od act, ETON ANNIVERSARY DINNER. 1 1 1 HIS MEETING will be holden at WIL LIS'S ROOMS, King's-street, St. James's-square, on SATURDAY, the 42d of May, at Six o'clock. Lord curroN, iu the Chair. STEWARD.. - of Clanricarde Rev. Dr. Forster Lord Yarborough Rev. J. Briggs Lord Ellenborough Thomas Penman, Esq. M.P. Loed F. L. Gower, M.P. R. Wilmot Horton, Esq. M.P. I , l _t. Hon. Geo. Canning, M.P. Edward Penrhyn , El+ 1 100. E. Cast, M.P. Captain Beaufoy Host. J. Bligh • • R. Wellesley, Esq. G. Howard W. J. Praed, Esq. Sir P. Musgrave, M.P. - Captain F. Shawe. Tickets, Iss. each, to he had at the Bar of the Thatched House Tavern, or of the Stewards, until One o'Clock on Saturday, the 21st of May, before which time Gentlemen are earnestly requested by the Stewards to apply. INCORPORATED LITERARY FUND SOCIETY. .I.7zider the immediate PATRONAGE of HIS MAJESTY. TIIE ANNIVERSARY FESTIVAL of this SOCIETY will be celebrated at FREEMAS9NS' 1 1ALL, TO-MORROW, the loth of Nlay, on whi ch occasion His Royal Hi g h ness t h e DUKE of YORK will take the Chair. The Company of such Noblemen and Gentlemen as may he favourable to an Institution which has for its object the re lief of Meu of Talent (Authors) in distress, is earnestly so licited. PATftnN —HIS MAJESTY THE KING. PRESIDENT—His (;race the Duke of SOMERSET. VICE-PRESIDENTS. - The Most Noble Marquis of Sir William Clayton, part. Hastings, K.G. Sir John Cox Hi ppisley, Bart. Earl Spencer, K.G. Sir Robert Peel, Bart. Earl of Chichester Sir W. Weller Pcpys, Bart. Earl - of Mountnotris Sir Benjamin Hobliouse,Bart. Lord Viscount Torrington Owen Williams, Esq. M.P. Lord Viscount Dudley & Ward SarilleOnley,Esq.M.P. F.S.A. Rt. tion.&fter.Lord Brandon John Svmmons, Esq. F.R.S. Rt.l - lon.LordDeDunstatirille and F.S.A. Rt. Hon. Lord Carrington I John Ansley; Esq. Alderman Rt. Hun. George Canning Wm. Thos. Fitigerald, Esq. STEWARDS. The - Most Noble the Marquis of Lansdown The Right Honourable Lord Templetown The Right Honourable Lord Newborough The Solicitor-General W. A. Madocks, Esq. M.P. William Russell, Esq. M.P. Nr. Sheriff Whittaker Sheriff Sir Peter Laurie Benjamin Bond Cabbell, Esq. L.A.De la Chautuette, Esq. William Fraser, Esq. Thomas Gent, Esq. Tickets, 20s. each, to be hat Chambers of the Society, 4, Li Bar of the Freeruasons"Parer William Heseltine, Esq. W. Kitchener, M.D. Charles Knight, Esq. Thomas Moore, Esq. Cosmo Orme, Esq. Thomas Snodgrass, Esq. John Walpole Willis; Esq. r 1 of the Stewards; also, at the ncoln's Inn Fields ; and at the DR. BOERHAAVE'S RED PILL, A CELEBRATED ANTI-VENEREAL and PURIFIER of the BLOOD. These pills are peculiarly useful to those who are obliged to travel, or to take medicine without interruption of business. 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ACT ICA L OBSERV A TIONS onSTRIC TURE, and other DISEASES of the URETHRA, describing an effe c t ua l M ode of Cure by an Interna l Medi tins, and proving the application of instruments unneces sary, and generally productive of injury. Illustrated by Cases; and on the Origin, Symptoms, and Treatment of Dis ease in the Rectum. By WILLIAM RENOU, Member of the Royal College of Surgeons, London. prow the difficulty of the Chemical Process in the Compo iitiors of the Remedy (the effects of which are described in the Cale' contained in the Work), it cannot be dispensed by prescription, or in the usual course of business. Vat the accommodation of the Faculty and of persons raiding abroad or in the country, the Medicine is sold in Packets of 1 2s. each, by Mr. qjfford, Chemlst, 104, Strand. A PUZZLING CASE BRILLIANTLY SETTLED. In vest of snow-whiteness, and Boots of jet hue, A Hair-dresser ran, we might rather say, flew, So rapid his pace, powder•bag in his hand, And turn'd into Exeter-street in the Strand;-- 'Where rounding the corner, in contact he cause With Sam, long accustom'd Soot-ho !to proclaim. 80 fierce the concussion that both stagger'd back, All white the Soot bearer, the Barber all black, Excepting his Boots, for they lost their jet glow, And secin'd as if coreed with flakes of pure snow ; For Soot versus PONSder both !pigs were at work, The Combatants fighting like Grecian and Turk. Of Justice the parties now sought, each, redress, And each his great damage now prone to express;-- " Your Worship perceives," said the indignant barber, .his plight in, that no one my person w ill harbour ; ~r `my vest, lately white, with vile soot badly suits, And worse the hair-powder that covers my hoots."— " And who in his service," ask'd Soot-ho," will kejp, A dandefied, powder'd, full-drsss'd Chimney-sweep. The Justice was puzzled, and friendship advit'd, " Reflection," he said, "should be cherish'd and pried,"-- " Reflection l" the Frizeur exclains'd, " Sir, 'tis gone :" " Which way?" ask'd the Justice, " why, Sir, it is lacking; For never the worth of reflection was known The lustre wlsen absent of ‘VARREN'S Jet Blacking!" The Pun was received with eclat, and Sam Sweep Reflection in pristine aceuteness to keep, Applied to the Boots a restorative hand, ,!ienewing the visions distinctive and bland ; • the parties agreed, and each fairy-like shade • Still prone is the Hair-dresser's Boots to prevade. I '6 l ll Easy Shining and Brilliant BLACKING, prepared by ROBERT WARREN, 30, STRAND, London ; and Sold in every Town in the King 11°,11.—LIQUID, in bottles, Gd., 10d., 1261., and lad. each.— Also PASTE BLACKING, in Pots, 6d., 12d., and 15d. each. *** Ask for WARREN'S Blacking. E LEONORA'S SANO OILS and PASTE, and FINE LAVO CREAM. Tice Recipe for the above most valuable and well-known Articles haring lain dormant for some time, through the Death of the Proprietor, and, from the many applications made by Nobility and Gentry to the Grand Daughter of the above, has induced her to revive them. Sono Oils and Paste, for eradicating and preventing the growth of Superfluous Hair, sold in packets, containing Di rections, and Depilatory, at ss.—Eleonora's Fine Lave Cream s for beautifying the skin, at ss. each, may be had of the Pro prietors, 54, Gloucester-street, Queen-square, Holborn; also, at 57, New Bond-street; 76 and 150, Oxfortt-street ; 91, Pic , cadilly ; Stradling, Royal Exchange Gate; nix, front of Royat Exchange; and of all the reapectable Medicine'Ven dors and Perfumers. FRENCH PAPERS. ( From the Moniteur of Saturday, May 8.) The Official Part contains a Royal Ordinance relative to the officers not in active service, or having unlimited furloughs, the number of whom, on the Ist January 1824, was 5,430. The preamble states in substance, that the vacancies in the active army are so few, that but a small proportion of the officers in question can hope to be restored to active service, and yet without any certain advantage they are subject to all the obligations inherent in their situation of disposable officers, that to admit them into the Cadres of the army would injure the rights of those whose services have not been interrupted ; that the officers not employed should be placed in a situation where, still enjoying the, allowance that has been granted them, they may return to civil life and embrace other professions—and that in thus releasing them frdm their obliga tions, it is proper to limit the duration of to. allowance. The measures to be adopted for this purpose are comprehended in three articles. The non-official part is chiefly filled with ex tracts from the English Papers, and the Debates of the Chamber of Peers on Thusday, 6th May. [From the Constitutionne l .l R io J A NIERO, FEB. 25.—(Extract from a Pri- Vaie Lelier.)—tc The Cecile, a French ship which left Havre, is arrived here, and I still am without a letter. The following is the reason:— A. denunciation seems to have been dispatched from France against this ship, or some of the owners of cargoes ; some say that this denuncia tion bears that there is on board the said ship merchandise sealed with a false seal of the Cus toms, others that there are false invoices; but what is certain is, that on the arrival of the Cecile, contrary to established usage, the na tional guard of the customs proceeded on board with guards and subaltern officers, demanding that the trunks and goods of the passengers should immediately be delivered over to him, and they were conveyed to the Custom-house, with the passengers themselves, and no person allowed to communicate with them. Their trunks and effects, on arriving at the Custom-house, were visited—an extraordinary measure—in pre sence of the Judge of the Custom-house, the Administrator, the. Porter, and several other of ficers, and this visit, at which even letters were opened, continued extraordinarily till 7 o'clock in the evening, while the Custom-house is ordi narily shut at three o'clock. I presume, then, that my letter will not be delivered to me by Captain Sevry till he get rid of the inquisition, in which he is now involved. " Every day French ships of war arrive here ; already we have in our Roads the frigates L'Astree and La Magicienne, the corvettes La Prudente, La Diligente, and L'Esperance, and the brig L'lnconstant. We expect two ships and other frigates, and we know not what we are to think of this collection of naval force ; perhaps we owe their presence to the inquiries instituted on board the Cecile." _ _ ( From the Etoile of Sunday, May 9.) The Piedsnontese deserters, about 50 in num ber, who were found among the Spanish pri soners, returning to their country, and were de tained at Perpignan, left that town on the 28th of April, under escort, and were sent to Spain. It is expected that we shall shOrtly see the answer of the Portuguese Government to the first overtures which have been sent by the Bra zilian Commissioners, who are now in London. " The undersigned Commissioners of his Ca tholic Majesty, for the affairs relative to the Royal Loan of Spain, and Chargé d'Affaires of the Caine cr.imortissentent of the same kingdom at Paris, has the honour to inform the public, by virtue of the special powers with which he is fur nished, that the first half year's interest of the obligation of the Royal Spanish Loan contracted by Mr. Louis Guehard, which was to be paid at Madrid on the Ist January, 1825, will be paid at Paris on the Ist July, 1824. By virtue of the same powers the undersigned has charged the house of Baguenault to effect the payment of this first half year's interest. The mode of payment will be stated in a future notice. " Paris, iiay 7, 1824. " XAVIER DE BURGOS." M. J. Lahora, the Spanish Consul-General, declares the signature of M. X. de Burgos to be authentic. -• P.lll - IS, MAY B.—French Five per Cents. evened at 103h90e.; closed at 103 f. 95c.—Bank Stock, 1,980. —Neapolitan Five per Cents. in . francs, 101 f. 50c. ; in ducats, 9q.—ltente d'Esp., 71.--Royal . Spanish Loan, 1823, 85i. -:-,Exchange on London: one thonth, 25f. 25c.,' three ditto, 25f. 10c•—( Cour' AuThen gigue, Wok& Petitions, praying for relief, were presented by the Earl of DARNLEY, from the Separatists of Maryborougli, Clare, and Portarlington, in Ireland ; and by the Marquis of Dow N - from the Separatists of Wexford and Kildare. Colonel LYG oN and others brought some private Bills from the Commons, which were read a first time. The Militia Pay Bill, the Sugar Bounties Bill, and the Li verpool Pilots Bill, were read. a third time and passed. The Earl of HA REWOOD presented a petition from Hud dersfield in favour of the Game Bill, and another petition from the Licensed Victuallers of Halifax, the object of which was net heard.—Adjourned. HOUSE OF COMMONS. __ DERRY CATHEDRAL. Sir G. HILL, in moving the second reading of the Bill pro viding for the repairs of Derry Cathedral, expatiated at some length on the propriety of the measure. Some years ago the Bishop had caused a spire to be erected, but the work was so badly performed, that it was obliged to be taken down, and the Cathedral was at present without a spire. The roof was also in a very dilapidated state. If the bill we:e suffered to go to a Com mittee up stairs, the necessity which existed for the measure would be clearly proved. Dr. LUSHINGTON opposed the bill. It was quite clear that since the erection of the Cathedral there moat have been some specific fund set apart for its repair, because it was im possible that it could have remained from that period up to the present time without receiving repairs or sustentation of any kind. What, then, had become of that fund ? Why should Parliament be called on to furnish the 'means of repairing the Cathedral, when it was clearly the duty of the Bishop or the Dean and Chapter to do so ? He defied the Right Hon. Bart. who brought this measure forward to point out any instance in which Parliament had been requested to tax the people at large for the sustentation of a church. It seemed that the Bishop had formerly built the spire. Now it was clear to him from this fact, that there was some regulation which bound him to do so; and the same regulation, he presumed, would apply to the repairs of the cathedral generally. He could not suppose that the building of the spire was a mere voluntary act. He could not suffer the onus of repairing the cathedral to be transferred from the Dean and Chapter, where it properly rested, to the shoulders of the people at large. For the last two years, it appeared, the service of the Established Church was performed in the Presbyterian meeting-house in Derry.— (Hear !)—Such was the neglect, the criminal neglect, of those under whose superintendence the Cathedral was placed, that it was suffered to fall into decay, and the service was actually per formed in the Presbyterian meeting-house. He meant to say nothing harsh of the Dean and Chapter, or of the Bishops, but it certainly was their first duty to take care that the Cathedral was kept in a proper state of repair. Nothing tended more to bring the Clergy into disrepute than their overlooking the re pairs of places of worehip, It was quite unworthy of their clia racter.—(Hear !)—The Bishop was bound, if it were necessary to compel measures to be taken for the repair of the Cathedral. A letter, written by an lion. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Daw son) on this subject had been published in the newspapers. That letter contained an opinion which should have satisfied the promoters of the bill that it was an inexpedient measure, and ought to have induced them to abandon it. The sentiments expressed in that letter did credit to the feelings of the honoura ble writer. The whole of the bill was most obnoxious. Ile should therefore move as an amendment, " that it be read a second time this day six months ;" and on that proposition he would take the sense of the House. Alderman WOOD observed, that the Irish Society felt con siderable objections to particular pales of this measure. That society had been reproached for not advancing funds for the repairs of the cathedral, but they had no right to appropriate their funds to that purpose. A series of resolutions had been agreed to by the Mayor and - Corporation of Derry, and pub fished in th e Derry newspapers, which reflected, in the most abusiv e terms, on the Corporation of the City of London and the Irish Society. These resolutions charged the Corpora tion as holding estates, in perpetuity, to the amount of 8,0001. or 10,0001. a.year, and then went on to ask hoW that money was laid out; anti th e answer was, (A laugh.)—The fact, h owever was different. T h e I rish So ciety received, in perpetuity, 4 in eating and drinking.— 2,a001. a year for property which was really worth '20,0001. a year at this moment. Almost the whole city of Londonderry, which belonged to the Corporation of London, had been disposed o f b y very i m p rov id e nt persons, at a rate greatly below its true value. For his own part, he really believed that some of them had received an Irish bribe. .—(A laugh.)—One of them, he believed, on his return from se ttling those bargains, found in his house a considerable quan tity of Irish linens. From the other leases, the Irish Society received 3,3001. ; these two sums of 9,300/. and 3,3001. were the total amount of their receipti, with the exception of the fishery. The Right llon. Baronet well knew the value of that fishery. It was let for 1,2001. a year ; but he could prove, that individuals, at the present moment, were willing to give 6,0001. a year for it. The Irish Society had, out of this in come of 6,0001. a-year, built a school and rectory on the Cole raine estate. Mr. S. BOURNE could not agree to establish such a pre cedent as would unquestionably be established if this Bill were agreed to.—(Hear, hear !)—lt was the duty of the Dean and Chapter to repair the church. That was the primary object for which their revenues were granted. lie recollected, when part of the cathedral of Hereford fell down, that it was repaired without any application being made to Parliament for assist ance ; and it was a well known fact, that the Dean and Chap ter of Winchester were spending thousands annually on the re pairs of the cathedrel.—(Hear, hear !)—How was it proposed to carry on the repairs of the cathedral of Derry in future ? Why, the expense was to be thrown on the successors of the present Dean and Chapter. This,he thought, was not a very decorous mode of proceeding. In his opinion the Dean and Chapter were not entitled to touch a farthing of their revenues until the cathedral was repaired.—(Hear, hear !)---If a precedent of this kind were once established. it would be the means of inducing Deans and Chapters to neglect the repairs of those magnificent pieces of architecture to which they paid so much attention at present Mr. LITTLETON-never gave a vote with greater plea sure than he should feel this evening in supporting the amend ment of the Learned Gentlemen. It . was most disgraceful in those whose duty it was to repair the cathedral to suffer it al most to fall, and then, with unblushing effrontery, 'to apply to Parliament for assistance.—(lT ear !)-__The people, it appeared, were to be taxed for the purpose of effecting those repairs ; but the promoters of the Bill had introduced a clause especially exempting the present Dean from contributing any part of the expence. The Right Hon. Baronet had alluded to the cathe dral of Lichfield as a precedent for the present measure; but the fact was, not only t h a t Lord C ornwa lli s, t h e l ate Bi s h o p o f Lichfield, contributed to the repairs to almost the whole extent' of his revenue, but that a great p roportion of the Chaptet re venue, now and hereafter, was avilable for such repairs as were necessary—(Hear !)—The Dean and Chapter of that cathedral would feel ashamed to conic to Parliament with such an appli cation as the present_(llear !) Sir J. NEWPORT said, that in consequence of the c are l ess . should yl o d f o hf t a l t i hv i e bin w eoc h snt o asaillpreoli,tellinlettidootfthem had van i s h e d. F un d s w hi c h keep those sacred edifices in repair, the repairs of Cathedrals'had too often been appropriated to the purpose of private emolument ; and then th e H ouse was c alled on, artfully eno u gh, to f urn i s h money for r e p a i rs, b ecaus e no inquiry was: instituted ns to what had becom e o f t h ose funds. Stuns were levied on entire parishes fo r thi s purpose; but from th ose parochial proceedings the whole b o d y o f t h e B o man Cath o li cs were excluded. They were liable to contribute their money, but they had no controul whatever over the disbursement or application of the fund. It was, he conceived, a great hardship to throw the burden of re . , pairing a church on individuela who were of adifferent religion. It was a ehanie that in 6o rich a diocese as Derry it had beceme necessary to apply to the Presbyterian body for the use " of their chapel.--(Hear!)—Gentlemen were taunted entertaining a wish to degrade the Church of Ireland ; hut who wits now en deavouring to degrade it ! Was it not degraded in the eyes of the community, by coming before Parliament with such a de mand as this ?—(Hear !) Mr. DAWSON said, he feared the citizens of Derry would be left without a place of worship unle s s the House came to some prompt decision on the subject. At present the citizens had in fact no Church, for it happened that the Cathedral, which was in a dilapidated state, was tke only Church within the walls, and no service had been performed there for two years: the consequence was, that it was found necessary to ap ply to the Presbyterian congregation for the use of their chapel. --(Hear !)—The citizens were not able to. repair the Cathedral ; and thus 7,000 or 8,000 people were, without a regular place of worship. The difficulty of the case was, to devise some mode. of giving them a Church, without saddling them with the ex pence. As a letter written by him had been alluded to, he begged to say a few wordsrelative to it. He regretted that letter had made its appearance in public. It was a letter written for a private and local purpose, and lie was sorry that it had been published but as it had been given to the public, he must say that he was prepared to support the opinions which were there stated.—(Hear !)—lle.felt no hesitatiori is stating his opinion to the Bishop or Dean of Deny. He thought the revenues of the Church should, when it was necessary, be applied to the purpose ,of repairs. —(Hear, hear !)—That this was not done, in the present case, was the more extraordinary, as the riches of that diocese were notorious.—(Hear !)—lie never had shrunk from his' duty in supporting die Established Church, but lie could not avoid telling the Bishop and Dean that they ouglit to do something for their cathedral. He was glad that he had an opportunity of saying thus much. He hoped the debate would go forth to the public; and that those who were interested in the matter would weigh the opinions which had been expressed this day. He concurred in the sentiments which had fallen from the Honourable Gentleman opposite, and also from his Hon. Friend near him, (Mr. S. Bourne). He trusted those sentiments would have the effect - of bringing ,the dean and clergy to a proper sense of their duty. The intention of the present Bill was, to make the parishioners liable for present and future repairs; and he could wish, whether it was agreed to or not, that the House would take some steps to put this ancient edifice in repair. Mr. PLUNKETT expressed his entire concurrence in the opinions of the Hon. Baronet opposite (Sir J. Newport), and - ofhis Right Ilonourable Friend near him (Mr. S. Bourne).— , The Church of Ireland ought, he conceived, to be vindicated from any participation in a measure of this kind. lie was glad to have that opportunity of rendering justice to the highly re spectable individual who was at the head of the diocese of Lon donderry. It was but common justice to say, that there was not an individual in Ireland or in England who acted with more uniform generosity, who was more utterly regardless of private interest and expence, or who delighted more iri works of chari ty and benevolence. He (Mr. Plunkett) thought it was a most improper thing that those economy funds, as they were called, were not sought after, and properly bestowed. Those funds, he believed, were frequently misappropriated. lie felt that no person could do the Church greater service at the present moment, or at any other time, (but more especially at the pre sent hour, when general attention was called to the subject), than by showing the clergy the necessity of entrenching them selves on public opinion by their good conduct.—( Hear, hear!) Sir G. HILL, as we understood, intimated his willingness to withdraw the Bill. , Mr: HUME denied having made use of any expressions (in his speech of a former evening) which even bordered upon dis respect towards the Lord Bishop of Derry ; but he was confi dent that every circumstance about the state of the church of Ireland called for inquiry; and they were the real enemies of that church who refused to accede to it. If the Hon. Gentle men who had spoken in favour of the present Bill had supported his (Mr. Hume's) Motion of Thursday evening, such an in quiry might probably have been obtained as would have led to the accomplishment of their object. Mr. W. SMITH would tr.nible the House with very few words, as the Bill was about to be withdrawn. Here was an open attack made upon a highly respectable body of 'persons an inquiry into the duties of the Irish Society of London to ' wards the City of Londonderry. Now all he would pray was, that the inquiry asked for might go forward, that, the inquiring Committee might be instructed to ascertain by whose delin. quency the cathedral of Derry had been suffered to fall into utter ruin, and that the parties by whose fault the dilapidation' had occurred might be bound to pay the expence of the repairs. With respect to the accommodation for public worship in the mean time, the Hon. Member had no doubt that the facilities now given by the Presbyterians would be continued. The Bill was then withdrawn by consent. Mr. Alderman WOOD brought in several Bills to enable the City of London to borrow money at 4,i per cent., to pay off the charge upon the Orphans' Fund, and for various other pur poses. CORPORATE COM PAN lES. Lord STAN LEY having moved the second reading of the Bill for incorporating the Manchester and Salford Loan Com pany, Mr. HUSKISSON said that he should certainly object to Bills passing for incorporation, unless where charter was first regularly obtained from the Crown. This was the old and the regular course of Parliamentary proceeding. Having obtained their charter froni the King in Council, the Company came to the House of Commons for further powers, and he (Mr. Ilus kisson) saw no reason for deviating fron► the established prac tice. Legislative incorporations involved numberless difficul ties, many of which could scarcely be dealt with. A charter from the Crown might be revoked, if it was abused, or if the Company failed to fulfil their undertakings with the public, but this could not be done in the case of a legislative enact ment ; and to authorise an unlimited number of trading com panies in such a manner, would be to do a most material mis chief to the country. He held, for instance, in his hand the charter of the first Company which had been formed for light ing the City of London with gas. According to the letter of that document, the power was given by the King, and might be revoked by the King in case the Company abused it. Here, then, was a means by which that particular Company could be dealt with ; but how could Government deal with about forty companies (not royally chartered) since,which had been formed for lighting different parts of England by gas ? Companies were going on to form themselves into corporations for every purpose=-no matter what—of trade : how was the public to proceed in case they neglected to fulfil their conditions ? Parties might go to law, and get a verdict ; but how and where were they to levy ? In conclusion, (the Right Hon. Gentle man said) he would not object to giving bodies, who might be about to do business on a large scale, the power of suing and being sued collectively ; but he certainly should oppose the taking every wild and idle speculation that might offer.itself, out of the general operation of the laws of the country. After a Lew words from Lord STANLEY, the Bill was read a second time, and ordered to be committed. WEST INDIA COMPANY BILL. Mr. MANNING, after a few observations., which were in audible in the gallery, moved the second reading of the West ' India Company bill. Mr. HUSKISSON did not mean to say that there might not exist a strong case on the part of this particular company for incorporation ; but he could see nothing at present which took it out of the rule which he had just laid down with respect to the Manchester and Salford Loan Bill. Without attempting to judge the question of the policy of incorporating a West India Company, he took the objection which he had before urged generally—that the origin of it was irregular, and that the parties must be required to begin with obtaining first of all their charter from the Crown ; and if it should be found that its powers were insufficient, they would then be entitled to come to Parliament either for the enlarging or confirming of those powers. Mr. ELLICE understood from the Right Hon. Gentleman, that the Gas Bill to which he had referred in his first observa tions, had been granted conditionally'—that is to say, if the Company could not obtain a charter from the Crown, then the powers of the bill were to be inoperative. Why not allow this bill to proceed upon the same conditions ? Mr. HUSKISSON repeated his objection to allowing any bill for incorporation, which was not preceded by a charter ob tained from the Crown. Mr. SYKES thought that the bill could not be alloled to proceed to a second reading. He looked upon it as an aggressive and encroaching measure, introduced, under the modest garb of a private bill, to the great prejudice of Ole public interests. lie could not at all conjecture how it tend ed to give any relief to the West India proprietors which _dig_ could not obtain quite as easily at present. His chief nand tions to. it were on public grounds. Ile disliked which the accumulation of so large a capital as give to the' Company over the West India tra de; 1 ' w 4,oooth,eogliwkontielwd that no undertaking could be more hazardous than such as. ItiveStment, and' it was a still stronger objection that the cre ditors of the - company would have no security for their debts, excepting the preperty comprised in the act of incorporation.— The separate .Members would be rendered individually jrre sponsible. Was it to be endured that the unfortunate people who might be induced to intrust them with their property, without ever Supposing that they were not responsible indivi dually, should be left in a state so disadvantageous ? He knew himself of parties who had such a Mayor and Corporatione and recovered from them : but still the Mayor and Corporation laughed at the success of the suitor, because their corporate property and responsibility only being in question, there was nothing upon which he could seize of sufficient value to meet his demand. Not one in a thousand who could deal with this Company would be aware that the members were not answer able individually for their debts. But they had more than this to dread. This influence of so formidable a Company eve,. the \Vied India trade would be extremely detrimental. 'What individual merchant could compete with a Company possessing 4 millions of capital ? Then it was to be observed that this. ca pital was to be divided into 40,000 shares at 1001. each. He did not wish to say any thing at present upon the West India sys tem, but lie could not but observe that against the dictates of reason and sound policy it was yet very strongly supported.— It was a subject, the interest of which had crept into that House and hold many to it on both sides of the House: He did not wish for the success of this new plan, which would tend to spread its influence over the whole population of the country, and by that means become it considerable accession of power in a quarter already too strong. . It was a plan, in short, for enlisting 40,000 perkins on the side of the present West India syitem. What necessity"coukl there be for making these new:levies to serve ander.the bzUfners of the West Indian army ? If money were wanted, it could be borrowed on good security at present, and on terms quite as reasonable as this company could afford. The ulterior dangers, however," which were greatest, were those of injuring the West India trade. and the interests:of our manu factures as tar as they were connected with it, and *strengthen ing another interest, which, with respect to justice and huma nity, might be regretted as being already. oo strong. Mr. GRENFEI.I, said, that it was suggested - that the esta blishment of this cempativ tended to make the condition of negro slaver} , in the I)est "tidies worse than at present. If it should turn out on examination of the subject at any future time, that he could be brought to that opinion, he was one of the last men in the world who would support it—:he would in stantly withdraw his name ,from it. But as lie thought that there was a good oppertunity for. eMploying a portion of that capital which was now floating about for want of some oppor tunity of investment, he would support it; especially as he had heard nothing to induce him to believe that it would make the condition of slavery worse in Ireland—(Laughter)--he meant to say, in the West Indies. Mr. T. WILSON defended the plan as one of peculiar eon.. venience and accommodation to the West India proprietors, who would, but for this establishment, be obliged to go hawk ing about their securities, and by that means incur the disagree able suspicion of being in insolvent circumstances. Mr. W. WILLIAMS opposed the bill, and promised to oppose it at every stage. How could a company carry on the business of plantations better than expert individuals ? Did it become Parliament to sanction the pretence of a more profitable investment of capital, which might sweep scores of helpless fa milies into its vortex if it should not. be successful ? But lee chiefly objected because it offered an obstacle to the gradual amelioration and final abolition of slavery. It was in vain to look for any such result, if the estates in the West Indies should have to be managed. by a company residing here, actuated solely by a sense of pecuniary interest, instead of being subjected, as they were at present, to the occasional visits of an, enlightened and humane proprietor, educated with all the moral advantages which generally went to.form the character of an English Gen tleman. Instead of this, should the company be incorpbratctl, every thing would be left to sordid and unfeeling agents ; and all the hopes which had been entertained in regard to the unfortunate slaves would give place as the abuses which had been the subject or complaint in Parliament for thirty years past. • • - Mr. W. wn ITM ORE strongly opposed the Mill, because it threatened the freedom and general interests of the sugar trade, and tended to establish a baneful monopoly. It was well known that the West India sugar market had.produced an excess of the article for several years past, which was now, however, rapidly diminishing. Let this company be establish ed, and not only would the : excess be diminished to nothing, but the public might be called upon to pay from" 501. to 1001. per cent. beyond the natural value of the commodity. He thought it extraordinary, after the pernicious and lamentable example of the South Sea scheme, that there should be any at tempt in any way to renew the experiment. There was but one reason of good policy to allow the institution on a joint stock company. There should be the most unquestionable proof before granting the charter, that there was no other mode of carrying{ on the trade so safe or convenient as by an incorpo rated company. For want of this precaution, Adam Smith, in commenting on the .South Sea Scheme, had asserted, on the authority of a French author, that froth the year 1680, to his time, there had been no less than 55 joint Stock Companies in corporated in Europe, every one of which had failed. Mr. A. ELLIS, though indirectly interested in this ques tion, could only give his consideration. to it upon public grounds, upon which grounds he wished it every success.— The House had it in their power to . pledge his Hon. Friend either to obtain a charter before the Bill should come out of the Committee, or to withdraw it altogether. He approved of it as an admirable means for the employment of barren . capital ; and the names of successful capitalists in the direction gave a sufficient promise of advantage and success. He approved of the Bill because it tended to dift'use more widely a sense of the importance of the West India Islands, and because it would act as a caution among the people of this country, not to be too ready to interpose in the internal Government of those colonies, to the evident risk of their natural interests ; and he could not have anticipated that this would have been urged as any objec tion to the Bill. ... Mr. W. SMITH would not have risen at this period of the evening, to the delay of what was called public business, but that he thought the Bill before the House related to a measure far more important than most of the public business they might be called upon to discuss. He complained that the lateness of the time at which the Bill had been printed prevented Gentle men from having given to the subject the attention it demand ed. If the opposition which he felt obliged to offer to it should be imputed to any hostility he might be supposedto entertain against the Colonies. he begged to say that nothing could be more unfounded. Ile did not hesitate to express his firm opi nion, that the system which the Colonies were pursuing was a system which must end in their complete ruin ; and he be lieved that the effect of the measure now proposed would be, to involve them in far greater misery than what they now suffered. Looking at the proposed company only as a private one, he could not but think, that whatever advantages oflocal knoWledgt a nirtsta n P e e . h l ' , a n d e they might possess wuultl be more man coonteroatancea oy Rt prejudices which might be supposed to actuate them. In rime cases out of ten, it might be reasonably supposed, that they company than those of the planters. But there was e anotherdto hire still e a ti n f v r d o s in t o ic t t i h i s ' ei :f oo en itiN . n e a public point of view in • which this measure seer West ~_ ~4 in_ would rather pursue what might appear to be the interestsof a tl4 more objectionable. At the present moment of th se l g v er : 'um supported ' terests enjoyed the advantage of a monopoly i by a high protecttnp, duty. Such circumstances,and ever before occurred, where, under .. n article Which Might with such advantages, a monopoly 111;r 1 ,1 ire, t had been found almost be called one of the necess . art ' t to take it ont of the:htuids to offail, it had been thought expedien t into t lore of a company . whoie e i t i t t e h i e - y were to be allowed to buy anerseil li t i s lsltaitnevvoelriyedol oorougyhitht:gironduvue,eu e wh th et e monopoly er immediate interest it mu,steebinpany t it i o ot i l e l as as k could hope to , gain any'dd only means by which this comp an y must be by raising the price - of individuals, It . tto throHwee v su a g n a ta r g , u Ho o n n . w (i h e i n cl t t i e i th t h a a r d i. b l e f en he bi u oultt i t_ roposed r m illions. This consideration, if it were to the amount of h the only one whit e u pon the Bill ; and for this' 11 reason as we the House topaus of , as for the shortness f lt 't his House, he e i dirty to oppose it. before the 111 r. the operation which the Hon on which stood that the bill , gentleman had ascribed to it, he should think it was highly objectionable' on the general principle. There might be some gr ound for his objection to the precipitancy which it but with been brought forward ; but tile Honourable Gentleman had • h lie differed w a s fromtl have t the eet argued as if the effect of the bill was to secure the whole trade of the West Indies to the company propoSed to be formed. He had stated that it could not fail to raise theprice of sugar, bccinuse the Company were to become great dealers in it ; and with a capital of four- millions, to unite in themselves a monopoly both as planters and as traders. This was, bovi ever, not the intention of the company as far as he (Mr. Bus